The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 467 | "The Masterpiece"
Episode Date: September 1, 2021Leaks and early reveals have been a pattern surrounding Kanye and Drake's album rollouts, and Ye shares his frustration with Universal releasing his album without his consent (18:20). Joe and the crew... also debate if Kanye is creating a new genre of music (46:15). He also provides additional arguments for the Kendrick Lamar and Drake tension (1:01:00), he shares the backstory of the photo he took with Snoh Aalegra (1:16:30), and how much he doesn't care about the Jake Paul boxing saga (1:25:50). Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | rum.gold - “Fix Me” Ice | Doodie Lo - “Don’t Worry” (Ft. Moneybagg Yo) Parks | Lee “Scratch” Perry - “Disco Devil”
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That was nice and casual.
Casual pod?
Casual pod.
All right.
We here.
Boy came to pod.
Birthday, little birthday pod?
Could have took off.
Could have took off.
But no.
Man, this works right on the birthday.
Yeah, man.
Let's get a nice mellow birthday pod out for the people.
Round of applause
for 41 Savage.
Give it to me.
Give it to me.
I need all
all my
all my
You ain't say that.
Damn, man.
She catching up to you, bro.
41 Savage.
I told the nigga
he'd be acting like
I'm 90
and he's 27.
41 Doug.
You are what?
45?
I am.
45 Doug.
When your birthday? January. Doug, you are what? 45? I am. 45, Doug. When your birthday?
January.
Oh, no.
It's that five-year separation thing.
No, it's four.
In January, you'll be 46.
Yes.
It's a whole different year.
Ish.
Is that what you're holding on to?
I'm just saying.
Oh, my God.
It's 2021.
Parks, I'm happy to see you here.
I'm happy to be back.
I made it.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, that was a long walk.
Happy to have made it out of New Orleans.
For real.
Love and respect to everyone in New Orleans.
That was already pre-planned or no?
You came back, bro?
The trip in general?
No, no, no.
Come back?
Come back.
No, no.
All of it was on the fly.
On the fly.
Gotcha.
Yeah, even going there.
We went to Long Beach in New York, Long Beach for a night.
We're going to go to Greece.
That was the original plan, but shit was fucked up with COVID, whatever, whatever.
So we're like, oh, we'll go to Greece like in November, December, January, something like that.
Then I realized that it's cold as shit out there in November.
All that shit.
Just like it.
I didn't think about that.
So we're like, fuck, we got to do something.
And we had talked about going to New Orleans, so we went to New Orleans.
Great. Didn't check the weather. On the way to the airport looked at the weather oh shit
it's about to rain this whole time oh fuck it we'll still have fun we you know we're just going
to bars and shit no worries we land i've moved the date back to saturday because i'm like it's
all thunderstorm sunday so we might as well get out so we don't get stuck a couple hours later
you know it's a hurricane yeah i was about to say it ain't rain fam yeah no it was a hurricane. Yeah, I was about to say. It ain't rain, fam.
Yeah, nah, it was not a thunderstorm.
They should have a different emoji on the weather app for fucking hurricane.
Nah, they showed Katrina on one screen.
And what's the?
Ida.
Ida.
Ida on the other screen.
Katrina was way worse, but that Ida shit was.
Because you know they do the color The red
The orange
The yellow
That shit was a monster
Yeah it was a monster
And they fucked up out there
So prayers out to them
I don't know if they got electricity to hear us
But if you do
We love you
Yeah that shit was real
Had that already started
When y'all left
Nah
My niece was out there
Trying to get back
The same time as you
And she had to fly
She had to fly to houston
oh for real to fly to jersey we flew to uh we flew to atlanta yeah anything going out i'm on
whatever the fuck going out i'll get home they started boarding up the quarter we were in the
quarter the whole time they started boarding it up like the last day we were there and then uh
we got the uber out he's like where y'all going like all the airport he's like oh let me stop for
gas because it might be traffic tried to stop at gas
a bunch of different places
all them shits just shut down
bags over the
whole pump and all that shit
how was the airport
so we got to the airport
well first we were driving out
the whole highway
to get to like Baton Rouge
or wherever
to go north
it was all filled up
but he's from there
so he's like I know how to get around this shit
he got us around
we got to the airport
it was completely dead outside
I'm like oh shit
we'll be alright
but then we get in there
to go through the TSA shit
and they have one person
working the whole airport
one x-ray
and one guy
checking the ID
in the car
I really hate
when I get stuck in that
yeah
so we're in line
for like two hours
you know what I'm saying
and our flight's boarding
so you know
I've been
we tour all the time and when that happens you go to the front and say yo our flight's boarding. So, you know, I've been,
we tour all the time and when that happens,
you go to the front
and say,
yo,
my shit's about to board,
can you please let me in front?
No,
he said,
you can't get ahead
of everybody else.
I'm like,
I'm trying to check,
you know what I'm saying?
If we can get ahead.
Nah,
you got to go to the back
of the line now.
Now there's about
a thousand people here.
Oh,
and it's super TSA,
man.
Super TSA,
man. Got it. But, I signed up for Clear and got right through yeah thank god i was i was just about to ask you got pre-check or something no i didn't
but now i'm on clear because that shit saved us clear pre-check global entry i've been fucking
slacking on getting all that shit but clear, you can sign up right there, pay your little $175, and you're good.
Amex does it for free.
Well, that's what I did.
I signed up on Clear one day.
I was somewhere.
The airport line was too long, right?
And then I just started traveling with too many people
that had the TSA pre-check.
Dudes kept keeping their sneakers on around me.
I had to, nah, nah, Duke.
I need both. I need Clear and Free. But Clear's better, right? I don't me. I had to, nah, nah, Duke, I need both.
I need clear.
Clear is better,
right?
I don't know.
I like the option.
I like both.
I got pre-checked,
but I don't have clear.
I'm kind of scared
of that shit.
I'm going to get both.
I was scared of it too,
but this time,
if I don't get out of here now,
I'm going to be stuck here.
Yo,
they got us.
I know.
I know we think
we super smart,
we against the machine.
I get somebody on my social in a heartbeat now.
They got us, dog.
Yeah, they do.
They got our eyes already.
They got your thumbprint.
They got it all, man.
They got it.
They got it.
They see the fucking girl's pic I keep liking on Thursday.
They know everything.
I don't want to give them the green light.
They know your movies you're watching.
They know who you're calling, texting.
Yo, my bright, bright ass, listen to this.
Listen to this hot shit.
And this is when I said, yo, they got it, dog.
They got it.
You lost.
I go get my vaccine, right?
Went to Bayonne to do it.
They hand me a paper.
Fill out the paper.
I fill it out my name my health reference
do i trust you blah blah blah blah blah and then it said give me your phone number and i said huh
no why would i give you know why they doing that though i don't want you to ever even be able to
find me ever again i damn near put the wrong name
On this shit
Right so cool
I put the wrong number
I freestyle the number
Three
Three eight five
Bah bah bah
Throw some bullshit down
Fast forward
New York
Hey you need to be vaccinated
Get the docket
Get the docket app
And see if you can
Find your information
Get the docket app
I put my shit in
I know I'm vaccinated
Boop boop boop boop boop boop Boop bo put my shit in i know i'm vaccinated they say we sent you a text is this your number i'm sitting there like i've never
seen this number before what is this phone number i'm like no nigga they say contact your local
physician or call 9-1-1 something us looking in the car that day. Something important.
It wasn't my mom's number.
I didn't even remember that I gave them
a fake number.
I'm not going to beat the system.
You can't.
Nah.
It's over.
It's over.
Take my clear.
Take all that shit.
You can't have my eyes, man.
Fuck it.
Nah, but that shit was scary,
kind of.
Bro, when we were...
You ain't have a choice.
When he was on some
we might run out of gas shit,
I was like,
oh, we're going to have to
be on the highway
waiting to get to the
fucking airport.
With the hurricane coming.
Yeah, with the hurricane coming.
Yeah.
Thank God we got out.
Thank God.
Yeah, seriously.
Yeah, that shit is...
We've been stuck, stuck.
They don't got no electricity
there now.
Yeah, that's some other shit.
That's some...
Definitely some other shit.
Yeah, that's part of the reason
I didn't travel anywhere.
Yeah. Just airport. It's too much shit everything not just that this covid shit is starting to get like um a little depressing yo like last year was new you know what i mean like it was new like all
right fuck it we could thug it right now it just don't seem to be any relief coming to me because again we're in the summer and this shit is bad in the summer
right winter's coming fall's coming like we're in fall now basically my two favorite seasons
yeah a lot of fall i love fall i love the fall bring it on but that's when people start to get
more respiratory shit we probably need that keep these dirty ass niggas at home dirty ass is home
i will say New Orleans was
Strict about the
No let you in without the
Shit
Like you had to show them your card
Wear the mask when you go into the bar
Every bar damn near
I mean a couple of them would be on
So when you vaccinated cool
But like
I would say 90% of the bars we went to
They made you show the card
Yeah no
Made you wear the mask
Nah
When I popped up to go to Mel
It was for brunch
I just
Just normal routine.
Hey, go get brunch. She's like,
uh, vaccination card?
I said, no, but I
am. Yo,
hearing yourself say that, dog,
it's a lie.
It's a lie.
It's a lie. I'm vaccinated,
but that sounds like a lie.
She said, well, you'll have to see if you have a
picture of it. I didn't have a picture of it. I don't remember
where I put that shit. I was like,
check this out. Either you
gonna call Melba, or
I'm gonna call Melba.
But I'm gonna eat.
I'm starving.
They let me in, but I'm just saying, that was that
moment where it hit me like, oh, it's
serious. They're not playing with you.
They're not playing.
I was shocked in New Orleans because that's like a hot spot apparently.
Nah.
And it's the South, so I was like, they're not going to give a shit.
Vegas, they were not playing.
And you know Vegas was one of the original hot spots where people was being ignorant.
Vegas, Miami, Atlanta.
I'm going in December.
Yo, they wasn't playing.
I was gambling.
Motherfuckers had their shit over their mouth, but not the nose.
They would stop the whole car.
How much you was gambling?
I lost a lot of money.
But no, yo, listen.
You got to pull it over your nose.
Not just like they wasn't playing.
They would stop the whole car game.
Oh, wow.
So they wasn't playing the Vegas.
You lost and kept going back?
Of course.
Why is that an of course? Give it to me. Because he's a gambler. No, wow. Like, so they wasn't playing the Vegas. You lost and kept going back? Of course. Why is that an of course?
Give it to me.
Because he's a gambler.
Nah, I'm a gambler.
So back in the day,
like, yo, dog,
I would go to school,
high school,
and wouldn't go
to one class.
You know, I'm not
going to let you do that.
I'm going to do this
on my birthday.
Nah, I'm not.
You asking me.
What else do you gamble in?
Everything.
My nigga, we could bet
on which spider is going to climb up the wall the fastest.
I bet.
And you'll make a bet on it?
Yeah, the one on the left has got some long legs.
He look like he get busy.
Gambling is really an addiction for real.
I had to stop.
Of course.
I had to stop.
Like, I won't really go to Atlantic City often, shit like that, because I know how I get.
Oh, man.
You got to stop yourself.
I got to get a table in my house.
This nigga got a problem.
Take all his money.
He can't control himself.
I put a table every floor.
What's your game?
I don't want to play you.
I'm the house.
Again, everything.
I learned how to play poker
when I was seven, my nigga.
Oh, you was some type of...
You was the first whiz kid, huh?
Y'all niggas laughing in the back.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
All right, listen, man.
We supposed to be talking music.
Nah, I know.
Simple shit, but I did want to find out about New Orleans.
It was a blast, though, until that.
I mean, food was great.
Music was great.
Drinks was great.
You keep telling me I need to go.
Oh, you definitely got to go.
I've never been.
You've never been.
Rem was skeptical about it, too.
She was like, eh.
She's never been either?
She's never been.
Really?
And we went.
She was like, this is the greatest shit I've ever had in my entire life.
I heard the food is different.
Different.
Different.
Go ahead.
Get in there.
Easy.
Mm-mm.
I'm playing Boogeyman number two first.
What?
And got to set the stage. The stage is being set. Yeah. When I pull up on a nigga, tell that nigga bad, bad I'm too good with these words watch a nigga bad track if I die
all I know is I'm a motherfucking legend it's too late for my city I'm the youngest nigga
reppin oh my god oh my god if I die yo you know what it's gonna be like when these and
I know we've been it's been a lot of Dre Kanye Kendrick these last few, you know what it's going to be like when he's in the end? I know. It's been a lot of Drake, Kanye, Kendrick, these last few parts.
That's what it is, though.
We've been waiting for the big dogs.
The big dogs are here.
Why do people get mad that, like, when the big dogs come and they get the recognition
and the attention that they deserve, why do people get mad?
Like, oh, you're talking about drinking.
Some people are saying that you are creating or fabricating a situation that's not dear.
That's what they're saying.
That's what they're saying.
That's fun.
Maybe.
That's fun.
Yeah.
We not saying we not.
No, I'm saying.
What's your problem?
What's the problem there?
We're going to keep doing that.
We're not stopping that part.
That's the fun.
It's boring to just sit on our hands and wait for the album to come out.
No.
Hey, sometimes when I want to turn up the fun level, I hit the participants with my theories.
Yo.
This happening, ain't it?
Come on.
Come on. Come on.
Hey, come on.
Hey, what y'all doing?
I know I'm right.
Come on, give it to me.
I'm a kid.
I hit them niggas.
You got it.
Kanye, boy, we'll be back.
No, I ain't in Kanye.
I ain't in Kanye.
But this is fun.
This is what's going to happen.
So here we are.
No, no, no. Drake, no. You Kanye. But this is fun. This is what's going to happen. So here we are. No, no, no.
Drake, no.
You can't do this right now.
Your time will come, buddy.
You stop trying to torment and torture people.
You let fucking Kanye.
You let Kanye have his fucking time, god damn it.
Why you?
Stop texting Lucian.
Put it out, Lucian.
Fam, I'm surprised.
Yo, I'm coming here to tell the truth.
I'm not getting loud.
I'm not screaming.
When Ice get here, Ice is not here right now
because Ice don't give a fuck about this shit.
I'm surprised Drake didn't release another laughing video.
Well, he gave you the laughing video.
Just apply it.
I would have released another one.
No, I would have released another one.
Hey, when Kanye dropped, I'd have laughed.
When the baby's manager said something, I'd have laughed. When Soulja Boy said something, I'd have released another one. Hey, when Kanye dropped, I'd have laughed. When the baby's manager said something, I'd have laughed.
When Soulja Boy said something, I'd have laughed.
I'd have put that laughing video at every step like a YouTube ad.
I'd have put that shit as many places as I could.
I'd have been crying.
Now stop, because this is not right.
That's fucked up what's going on, man.
Lucian, hit the button. Yeah,
yo, Drake.
Oh, man, why they did that?
But he says
he's not ready.
Wait, wait, wait.
Uh-oh.
I'll tell you one thing,
though. Yeah.
Drake, you heard this, though.
Hey, I know we laughingin and shit it's all
fun and games but All that spoke, heaven sent Everything I spoke, what I meant Never disguised my intent Glass outside the event
Brought my life out the drain God thank God, look what he did, did, did, did
We off the grid, grid, grid, grid, grid
We off the grid, grid, grid, grid, grid
I'm off the grid, got tattoos on my ribs
Tattoos on my ribs
I just do my thing I'm in the head Got tattoos on my ribs Tattoos on my ribs Who is that right there?
He's doing the Dave on us now
I just threw 20 county
We was in Ennis
They just bought me some brand new clothes
Derby Street Market
We just took a ride to Charlotte
Tell me he don't fuck with this one here
Tell me the rails fresh
He did what he had to do here ish
I light up blunt and let you try
Them off the grid I'm on the back We off to Green Green Green I light it up blunt and let you try The mother real wanna die
You know what, man?
And this shit, these guys got it feeling like the old fourth quarter days.
Like when all the big dudes knew that the fourth quarter, everybody was coming together.
And they just setting up, angling.
Uh-oh.
I don't know what got into Fabio here Fabio has inserted himself
In verse of the year
Talk to me
To me Pockets bigger than my heart, rich up. My mind smarter. My grind harder than my car quicker. I'm at her church.
She pray for me.
She my God sister.
I'm at her church.
She pray for me.
She my God sister.
Fabio laid this verse and left Wisconsin.
He was making out.
Expediously.
Yeah, he didn't have to think
see whatever game
Soulja Boy is playing
yo I laid a verse
you took my shit
get my shit
Bobby O left
laid dad was like
you leaving that there
yeah that's gonna
that's gonna make the album
you staying
that's staying there
yeah
what's wrong with this guy And the people I keep posting Telling they sold for a repo Remember when I was broke wearing cheap coats And I was diamonds and houses and C-notes
I'm feeling marvelous
They look like monster lips
They call me a product of my environment
I tell them no, I'm a god producer
Deep is good and it's god shit
I put them on you, make it harder
We got a good show lined up today, I think
I'm not gonna be here too long
We doing a birthday thing
We gonna talk a little bit of Kanye
A little bit of certified lover boy shit.
We gonna say rest in peace to a few people.
And I think that's it. I got a new cellar with a chimney I got a few more to finish me
I don't get too friendly with the enemy You gotta move different when you in the industry
You gotta move different when you in the industry
You gotta move different when you in the industry
Yo, I'm getting back to that I am getting back to that. What's that?
What the fuck?
New Ice and Ish.
Why Lucian did that, man?
Come on.
Let's get right to it.
Why did he do that? Drake told him to.
You really think he did that?
No.
Oh.
Why would he say that then?
Do I think who did what?
That's what Ye does. do I think who did what that's what Ye does
oh
do I think who did what
do we think that
it was released on accident
or without Kanye's permission
yeah
you do
yeah
fuck no that wasn't released
on his permission
they might have uploaded
the wrong file or something
fam you really believe that
yes
talk me out of it
I think that
that was my question talk me out of it. That was my question.
Talk me out of it.
How would you have the Masters to upload if that wasn't what was supposed to happen?
I could definitely see it being, yo, you picked the wrong folder.
I sent you two folders.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You said you picked the wrong one.
I could definitely see that.
That happens kind of often.
Not often, but somewhat often.
Okay.
I could see that.
But you think they purposely did that against his wishes?
Or he's lying.
Yeah.
That's my stance.
I don't think they purposely did that to arguably the biggest artist.
I don't think that the Sunday date was agreed upon by all parties.
That's my statement.
See, I thought he went on a church route and released it on Sunday.
Welcome to Joe Budden Podcast.
Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.
For something.
Bye, bye, bye.
That was my stance.
Oh, shit, that makes sense.
It's a gospel slash hip hop album.
He had the whole Kanye church thing that was planned.
That's what I thought.
To not go with the traditional
Friday, Tuesday release.
I'm going to do my shit on Sunday
because it's gospel.
That's what I thought.
I thought so too.
And that makes sense to me.
I don't think they went against
arguably the biggest artists
on the planet
and released this shit without him.
He's arguably,
he's top five artists
on the planet.
Yeah.
Who would call you in?
Yeah, absolutely.
Why wouldn't they go against him?
Nah, they wouldn't go against him.
They would not.
You said they wouldn't.
I don't think they would.
I don't think they would either.
See, good.
I'm glad.
That's awesome.
No, I'm just saying.
I like that we have these contrasting views.
I don't think they would just disrespectfully go against what that nigga Wishes was.
I don't think so either.
I think that, again, he may have uploaded the wrong folder
and he may have had a...
They may have agreed,
y'all were putting it out this Sunday
and Kanye may have woke up Saturday
or at 9 p.m. and said,
nah, I actually did that.
I want to push that to next week.
And that didn't get relayed to...
Or they said,
no, I'm tired of your shit.
For me to subscribe
to what y'all are saying
means that
I'd have to stop thinking what I thought weeks ago,
which was Universal ain't letting them two drop on the same day.
They're just not letting it happen.
Kanye's whole team and stance and maneuvering said,
I want to drop the same day.
That, to me, seemed like honest talk.
He ain't never lied in rant mode here to my knowledge.
He just be talking.
It may sound crazy, but he just go.
I want to drop with Drake.
That was us saying, no, you don't.
No, you don't.
So I could roll with what y'all saying.
Hey, it was the wrong foul.
It was the wrong folder.
Cool.
I could, I could do that.
Or if I'm Def Jam or Universal and I was never letting you drop with you drake actually
i'm getting mad that you keep inserting drake you keep you keep pissing drake off see when drake is
doing that little laughing and all the little shit that's really just for the people up there
yo dog tell your man chill out dog dog tell your somebody tell your man stop playing somebody now do i think that anybody could control
kanye of course not but no i think that def jam universal saw that happening one maybe didn't
have all the information of when kanye wanted to drop maybe not all of it in real time as
evidenced by that whole the baby debacle with the clearance and the mix up.
Clearly everybody's not on the same page and I could see them look and
looking at Apple a little funny,
but y'all keep having these concerts.
Y'all keep y'all getting y'all and made 12 million,
13 million,
whatever.
Hey dog,
check this out.
This is going out.
Enough is enough. So so what what was the
baby debacle explain that to me the baby put a verse on jail we heard that in the at the chicago
at the chicago live stream when the album came out there was no the baby verse kanye posted a
text thread saying uh with him being told that the manager is not,
the baby's manager is not clearing the verse for him.
So when the manager woke up, well, the text thread said,
we calling around, nobody's answering the phone.
But mind you, it's time differences, it's late.
But when the manager woke up, he posted and said, this is Cap.
Why would I not clear this?
We did it.
And when you hear the baby's verse,
you know he want that verse out.
Of course you do.
That's the verse he wants.
And he got busy.
He apologized.
He got his shit off.
He addressed.
That was his address.
They going to clear that.
So they fixed that.
They fixed it.
But Kanye had to do some digging.
He came back and he said, yo, that was universal.
Tell him again.
That was universal that didn't want DaBaby on there.
He said that.
I know.
I'm not rolling.
And if that's true, because I could see that.
A couple weeks ago, we sat up here and said,
we know DaBaby offended somebody higher up that you probably don't know don't see who happens to be yeah we said that so all of that sounds
believable to me to me so they fixed it they did a re-upload the album wasn't available than it was
and the baby is there now on his own version not with jay-z that was telling to me That was telling to me too
Kanye who does nothing
But put everybody together
But he did that with a bunch of the songs
He's got the part two later with all the extra verses on it
But even with him throughout his career
He'll take somebody that's odd
Like and he brags about it
I took Talib Kweli
I threw him with Jay-Z
I'll take Mos Def put him with jay-z i'll take most
death put him with freeway i'll take you know what i mean like this guy that's this super hood hood
hood yeah hip-hop dude and put him with somebody that's on a earthy eclectic flow so i don't
understand why he wouldn't put both of them on the same joint it must be something i'm sure there
was some politics you know what i'm politics involved it might be some some political shit
that we don't know about
I think there is
mad politics behind this
and
has been
for a while
but I do think a lot of it
was
picking the wrong folder
cause when you send people
like a
file transfer
sometimes it lumps them
all together
so you don't even see it
there was another one there
you grab the first one
and he's changing shit
every other day
on this shit
nothing nothing about how Kanye's files are handled that there was another one there. You grabbed the first one. And he's changing shit every other day on this shit.
Nothing about how Kanye's files are handled
makes me think that
something loose like that
happened at all.
Yeah, it's too much money involved
for somebody to be that careless.
That's what I would assume.
It's all in-house.
It's all his people.
It's all Wisconsin.
It's all...
So when you saving a file,
you got to be dating it.
You can't play with him like that.
Like,
that happens to the rest of us.
Up there...
I would agree with that.
Up there,
no.
It's too much perfection
or attempting to be perfect
to be going on there.
And I did want to hear
Jail with DaBaby
and Hold On It,
but I understand.
I understand.
I would have preferred that too. What do you think of the the album let's get to that part i really like it i
really like it i only listened to it one time because it's two hours long but i enjoyed it a
lot i think it could be shorter but that's usually my stance on most albums i love it i didn't there
wasn't really shit on there i was like you love i could i could have done without this one. Really? Love it. So genius.
I think it's...
So genius.
I think it's a...
One to ten.
It's brilliant.
One to ten.
8.5.
Yeah, it's up there.
It's not below an eight to me.
It's 8.5.
I think it's a masterpiece.
I do.
I hate to say that, but...
It is.
I think that it was very intentionally done, and I think it was very well executed do I hate to say that but it is I think that it was
very intentionally done
and I think it was
very well executed
I loved it
nothing sounds like
nothing
you know what I'm saying
like the last couple
Kanye projects
he was trying to
make fit in music
a little bit
just didn't really do that
aside from the features
and that was my point
about Kanye
when I was
making it
when he was putting out
all that other shit
that the Kanye hive was trying to say was still there like to the bar of Kanye and I was making it, when he was putting out all that other shit that the Kanye hive was trying to say was still there,
like to the bar of Kanye, and I was like,
nah, nah, I don't want to hear none of this shit.
You're doing all this MAGA shit, and the music is not there to match.
You ain't putting your all into that.
You can tell when somebody's putting their all into some shit.
So now you got this project, and now I look back,
and I look back
at all the rappers who told me they were headed to wisconsin it was way more than soldier boy
yeah that was on this album and it wasn't on his album that wrote a rap for somebody and it like
hundreds we're talking about hundreds of people for years before any of these pop-ups years
all through the pandemic.
It makes me think back to the Sunday choir shits when he was popping up places and that shit was beautiful and practice.
It was practice.
And even all them albums when he did the seven song albums.
I think that was all just hold over until this happens.
I do.
Well, I'm definitely going to disagree with you, gentlemen. That's fine.
Yeah, it's okay.
I think this shit is a six.
And I'm being nice. The musical
instrumentation and all of that is cool.
It's dope. It's cool. It's better.
I was about to correct myself. Relax.
It's better than cool.
I don't like the body of work.
I think it's way too long.
I think the features did it for me.
The features are dope.
Features are great.
Dope.
Most of the features are super dope.
Magnificent.
But the rest of that shit, I'm not.
If I would have bought the CD, I would have threw that shit out my window.
Damn.
No bullshit.
I'm not mad at you.
You made niggas wait that long for that?
I like it.
I like it. Make us do nothing.
But you get what I'm saying?
You just said you had thousands and thousands of writers
flying in, being cooped up,
working on this shit.
I'm thinking this shit is just going to be
undoubtedly a monster.
This was not a monster.
Well, give me the last gospel album you heard
that you felt was a monster.
That's the one thing I'd say about this.
I love the way that he tread between secular thought process and gospel music.
It didn't feel forced on either side.
It did.
Initially, I think.
That's not easy to do, to make something religious and make it sound.
No curses.
That's why the locks thing kind of took me.
It was at the end of the album, but the lock shit kind of threw me because they went into their locks bag.
Right.
Right?
That's why he took it as a part two.
And the curses and all that other shit.
Like, I'm like, damn, dog, y'all couldn't.
Well, no, you can't curse on the gospel album.
And they did.
Then they did.
No, they didn't.
The locks?
Mad bleep outs.
Then it's not a curse.
Right.
If it's a bleep out, it's not a curse.
You get what I'm saying.
But you can infer what words were there.
Yeah.
And that's what you're going to have to do.
No, but so if you-
Because it's not a gospel album with a curse.
No, but so I'm saying like if you're really a writer.
Like if they came to you and said,
Joe, write me 32 bars, but you can't curse.
You could do that.
Of course.
So that's my point.
I liked Styles P. I'm
not even the biggest Styles P. fan. He killed
it. I don't know
how you're not a big Styles P. fan.
I tell y'all every week, but I'm
gonna shut up. That's not true, bro.
I like... Bro, I was out
when these niggas was out. I was into music
when the locks was out. I always liked
Chic better than Styles. We don't gotta dwell on your
Styles P. dislikes. but dirt killed it to me yeah dirt got busy he did he got busy um i love the jay electronica verse
he killed it he went ape shit you disagree
i do wish that they would put features on the fucking songs though because i there's a lot of
people who's like i know who that is but I don't know who that is.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, the album's like.
I need to see some names.
I like it a lot.
I love the album.
Like it a lot.
It's probably too long, but again, there's nothing that I was like, oh, this doesn't belong.
Everything fit.
Everything was there for a reason, intentional.
It's the equivalent of the double CD. It's the equivalent of the double CD.
It's the equivalent of the double disc back in the day.
True.
And if an artist as big as Kanye back in the day said,
my next project is a double CD, I would go crazy.
Nobody says anything.
I would go crazy over that.
Now, in the streaming era, it looks funny when it's all of these songs
and you just get them to do whatever you want with
them gotcha but i thought he did a great job with even how he sequenced it after i had whatever
version i had how he sequenced it loved it uh the changes he made loved it the fucking the mix
sounds just like i was expecting it to sound.
Shout out to Erko.
It was the engineer.
New mixer for Ye.
Really?
Yeah, I didn't have a bad word to say.
But no way was Universal letting Kanye West drop with Drake.
Although, technically, I think, won't their first week still be the same day?
You know what I'm saying?
They don't count. This will show up on the first week report will show up on the same day, I think won't their first week still be the same day? You know what I'm saying? They don't count.
This will show up on the first week report will show up on the same day, I think.
Because this is within this week cycle.
It's after the Friday.
They're both in this week cycle.
That's true.
That makes sense.
Oh, you're going to get me on a deeper dive.
That makes sense.
Their billboard numbers
are gonna come back
the same day
their first week numbers
are gonna come back
the same day
man
Universal knew that
Kanye was gonna do
three something
is that what he's being
projected at
yeah
I thought it would be
more than that
I thought initially
it would have been
around 350
375
but after the two
I don't even know what to call-hmm. But after the two,
I don't even know what to call them.
The blunders?
The two,
no,
the two previews.
Oh, oh, oh.
Listening parties.
Like, I think that killed
some of his numbers.
Really?
Yeah.
Dog, he released it.
Mad niggas had it.
It was leaked.
Everybody had it.
I mean,
in different variations.
You got to hear if you would like it
or if you would dislike it, but I think 300 plus for Kanye is a win. Everybody had it. And you got the different variations. You got to hear if you would like it or if you would dislike it.
But I think 300 plus for Kanye is a win.
Yeah, it's still.
I think it's a huge win.
I think the number's going to come back higher than that, too, though,
when it's all said and done.
I mean, if it came back at four, I would be excited for it.
Because it's 26 songs.
He's going to have an extra six days because he released on Sunday.
I think that.
The reviews are not good.
The reviews out there are not good. The reviews out there
are not good.
Are they not good?
Horrible.
They're killing them
on the line.
It's been out a day.
And they are smoking
his boots.
Alright, well let's
check back next week.
I've seen a lot of people
that like it on my timeline.
Me too.
But maybe I follow more
like musically inclined
people or something.
You know what I'm saying?
They're listening to
the musicianship, no?
Yeah.
And if you're listening
to that, I don't see
how you could say just bad shit about this album.
But again, Parks is listening to the instrumentation.
Me too.
I know.
You're a musician.
So I don't care when he repeats the hook 95 times.
I like when the beat's doing some shit.
Yeah, the music is busy.
I know.
That's your take because you guys are musicians.
The average fan is not a musician.
The average listener is not a musician.
I don't want to hear a nigga repeat the same fucking phrase 17 times.
Listen to this.
You was leaving my house a couple months ago.
I was like, yo, dog, just give me a quick ride to the store.
I got in the car.
You turned the radio on.
A song I liked was on.
I tried to turn it up and get something in it. It just't good it wasn't the same i'm not disagreeing with you so what i'm
saying is like how you really know when did you really bump this in something that like he's he
himself is going to stadiums to say, this is how this should be heard.
So me as a consumer, I'm going to give him his just.
I'm going to try to hear it the way he intended for me to hear it.
I put that shit on my big bigs, big super bigs.
Took it from there, took it over here.
Up there, dang, dang.
Yeah, I need all the, whatever he's saying.
I need it all, loud.
So I don't know.
You just got to give it some time.
I'm not taking early reviews on this. Yeah, I'm hesitant to put a number on it all. Loud. So I don't know. You just gotta give it some time. I'm not taking early reviews on
this. Yeah, I'm hesitant to put a number
on it. You like it or you don't. I got other
takes on this. Like, if I'm Nas, I'd
send somebody a smack that, man...
What you mean? Fam, listening
to this album, listening to Nas' albums
with Hit-Boy, and then listening to the Kanye
Nas, come on, man. I'm still not over
that. That is a travesty in hip-hop,
that Kanye Nas part. Oh, the Kanye and Nas album.
See, look, you didn't even remember it.
You didn't even remember it.
And that's my thing.
So what you're doing, he ain't put his foot in it?
Come on, man.
Come on, stop it.
Yeah, he ain't put his foot in it.
Stop it.
He didn't do what he was supposed to do for Nas.
He wouldn't treat Pusha like that.
He would never do that to Pusha.
He would never, under no circumstance, do that to Pusha.
Don't do it to Nas.
The fuck out of here
I'm gonna be heated
if I was nods
but anyway
cause you hear him do this
no some of that
and the music
is man
incredible
shout out to the
six million producers
on the album
cause there is
six million producers
I was happy to see
every one of them
it'd be
it'd be four sounds
and the beat
and six producers on it
I'm like I don't even know
how this came to be
but that's dope
and that's one thing I've always given Kanye a lot of credit for.
I think that he actually brought a lot to the game is producer collaborations.
He's done that a lot early on when people weren't really doing that.
And he credits people for a hi-hat.
And I think that's dope.
I'm sure the other producers would be like,
you're giving him 1% of my split for those hi-hats.
But he was a joker that was laying down beats and wasn't getting his credit
and just do.
Yeah, true.
So, it makes sense.
Well, I will continue
to listen to this one.
Me too.
I've really enjoyed it.
I'm going to listen again.
I don't know how often
I will play it
just because it is
gospel music
at the end of the day.
Like, I'm not always
trying to hear
some church shit.
But that...
That's not church shit. You know gospel music, right? Well... That's not church shit.
You know gospel music, right?
Well, it's not gospel music.
It's not church.
Gospel music is.
No, I'm just saying.
The topics in the songs
not churchy either.
Few of them start talking
about Jesus, but...
Nah, they always sneak it
a little bit.
They did.
That's a gospel album to you?
It don't matter
what it is to me.
Oh, okay. He says it's a gospel album and the Grammy board is going to say it's a gospel album to you? It don't matter what it is to me. He says it's a gospel album,
and the Grammy board is going to say it's a gospel album.
He's only going to compete with the gospel albums.
The same way who else just snuck an album out
under the guise of comedy?
Comedy was the genre.
I don't remember who did it,
but they got these loopholes just going around
to get a Grammy.
I'm going to put an album out under comedy.
It's going to be a podcast. I'm going to put an album out under comedy. It's going to be a podcast.
I'm going to put a podcast album out under some other type of shit
because I see what they're doing.
They're getting it.
Yeah.
And when you know what's at stake, when you know what's on the line,
yeah, I'm taking every curse out.
I'm instructing people to rhyme about God.
I'm bringing the choir.
The beats is going to sound this way.
Come on down.
What's going on?
We've been waiting for you.
You look great.
Yeah, I'm doing all of that.
I'm doing all that.
And you're the music guy.
I can't wait.
Do you like Kanye's album?
Ice is here.
Round of applause.
Sit right down.
Get the pot.
No, no, no.
Get some water first.
Get a nice little.
You don't need water? You coming in hot? Coming in hot. right down. Get the pot. No, no, no. Get some water first. Get a nice little. You don't need water?
You coming in hot?
Coming in hot.
Fresh off.
One to ten.
The whole album?
One to ten.
It's like a six.
You ice-ish.
Exactly what I said.
It's like a six.
There's a lot of skips on here.
A ton.
Okay.
But the records that I don't skip, they go.
I have been playing all day.
How many are there?
Four.
Shut up.
Four out of 26?
You're a liar.
Nah.
Tell me you don't listen to one of the songs.
I'm on four.
I liked four songs.
All right, time out.
All right, this is why we need you here.
Hey, what's up?
You skip jail?
No.
You can't skip jail.
That's why I said it.
Absolutely not.
You don't skip off the grid, grid, grid, grid.
Nope, that's two.
For my kid, kid, kid, kid.
For my kid, kid, kid, Taff.
You no way you skip that.
That's two.
Right?
Correct.
I would be personally offended if you skip Heaven and Hell.
It's not nothing I'm running back to.
It was cool.
Heaven and Hell was cool. It was cool. Heaven and Hell was cool?
It was cool.
I've played the album a good three times straight through.
And then I already got my ones that I just jumped back to.
I can skip around.
Which ones are there?
Jail, which I combined.
24?
I don't like 24.
Okay.
Jail, like I said, I combined one and two to make one track.
Hurricane.
Off the Grid.
And there's one more.
Keep going.
Fam.
I'm going off the name.
Lord, I need you.
Am I missing?
I must be missing something here.
Hold up.
This is all up in here.
Dog.
Yo, where did you listen to this?
What speaker did you listen to this on?
At my AirPods on.
Oh, I see it.
Yo, yo, yo.
See, that's what I mean, man.
You not going to be.
That's not.
Yo, and that's why this dude is ill.
You got to listen to some of this stuff as it's intended.
You are listening.
You got to have some responsibility as a consumer.
You thought, you seen this dude setting himself on fire in stadiums and you thought the ear
pods would be enough?
Hey, Joe, I don't have a stadium.
I know.
And everybody don't got the big JBL shit like you got in your 5,000 square foot house.
And I got a baby.
We're talking about average.
It's a gospel, old Weiss.
The baby needs to hear it to find Jesus.
My baby like 42 dough.
No more promos.
No more photos.
No more logos.
No more chocos.
We on Bezos.
We get payrolls, trips to Legos
Connect like Legos, make this final
I think this is like a masterpiece
Hear this beat?
And that's with a note sampling
Let's cut him off
We can mute him
We can mute him
Oh no, oh
Whoa
Why?
He ain't beating this bass
Why? I know the real you You know it You know it No more arguing, no more asking who really are you
I know the real you, you know we feel you, you know he needs you
You know we with you, straight from Beirut, Chicago, Beirut
You pray, we pray too, you pray, we pray too
Never too late for him to save you
This your movie, cause no one can play you
Devil, lay down, Devil, lay down.
Oh, my God.
300 Spartan time.
Let's do it.
Hold up.
No peace.
Hold up.
Hold up.
Dog, I don't believe you.
I think you're lying.
If you tell me that that don't do it for your soul, for your spirit, if you tell me that
you put that in the right speaker, in the right mood, that you-
I just told you.
I had it in the AirPod Pros.
I'm telling you. I'm just telling you. I just told you I had it in the AirPod Pros. I'm telling you.
I'm letting you talk this part.
I'm telling you
that I do not believe
that in the right speaker
at the right time, that's
coming on and you're getting up to
walk to your phone or your system
and skip it.
I don't believe that. I'm not rolling.
Nope.
Please don't call police just stay play for no the last album you liked sounded amazing this sounds like the amazing
version of amazing like not even the music music is subjective music is subjective i'm just talking
about sound i know well But see I take it all
And I don't just care
How to beat sound
I'm the entire picture
I need everything
Yeah I need everything
Entire picture
Look at the whole picture
Look what he did
He painted a masterpiece
Look what he painted
A abstract
He took
It might be abstract
He painted an abstract
And the thing about
Masterboards and art
And all of that
Is beauty is in the eye
To behold it
He's always been abstract
I know No some of that shit Is und to behold him. He's always been abstract.
I know.
No, some of that shit is undeniably dope.
He ain't always been abstract.
Some of that shit is
What was undeniably dope
that wasn't abstract?
From Kanye West.
I could say
his first three albums.
Yeah, I was gonna say
the first three.
I don't see them in there.
You can't argue them.
We would disagree
on what Kanye...
I would agree with that. They were not particularly abstract. I would agree with that.
They were not particularly abstract.
They're a little more on the nose.
Conn's dropout was abstract in 2003.
No.
We knew exactly.
No, listen.
I get what you're saying.
You're saying he did something that nobody else was doing.
It was abstract.
That's not abstract.
Abstract is I know what he's saying.
I understand his direction.
When you look at an abstract painting, I don't know what that shit means. I don't know what they's saying I understand his direction when you look at an abstract painting I don't
know what that shit means I don't know what
they trying to convey right
when you listen to college dropout
you knew exactly what direction he was
going it was just something that nobody else
was doing that didn't make it abstract
for the listener
it was amazing but it wasn't necessarily
like not abstract Jesus was abstract
it awaits a heartbreak
graduation you might be able to It was amazing, but it wasn't necessarily. Not abstract. Yeezus was abstract. 808s and Heartbreaks was abstract.
808s and Heartbreaks was abstract.
Graduation, you might be able to argue, was a little bit abstract.
A little bit.
Not graduation.
I'm sorry.
Late registration.
808s was abstract.
Graduation was very on the nose.
808s is where it started for me.
It was where the, yeah, I agree.
I'm totally in agreeance with that.
You both give this a six.
Yes.
That's what you gave it to?
Absolutely.
Oh, shit.
And again, Ice is way more musically in tune than I,
but I, it's work.
I made it my business to listen to the whole joint.
This ain't it.
I ain't about to force it down your ears.
It's cool.
Don't get me wrong.
I mean, it's cool. You think I don't work for good music. Y'all don't have to force it down your ears It's cool Don't get me wrong I mean it's cool
It's cool
Nigga I don't work for good music
Y'all don't have to convince me
I know I'm just saying
I love this shit
Again I just think
What you and Parks
What you guys are looking for
The average consumer is not
Because you guys are musicians
That may be true
I want to hear something different
You talking about the horn
Yo wait till these drums set in
Nigga they ain't start yet.
Average nigga not listening to that.
You know what this album does for me?
Because forget about music and all this horn shit I'm talking about.
At some point, as rappers age, I would like to be able to hear and see that.
And when I look at the last five years of kanye west and all that he's
endured and gone through marriage divorce the kids the his his mouth everything it was a different
but it's always been his mouth it's always been death it's always been he's grieving his mom he's
it's always been some of that i think god put a new set of shit on his plate in the last five, six years.
Maybe debt.
He got to feel like what debt feels like as he was leveling up.
He was like, oh, shit, how do I get that bill?
I just think this, for it to be gospel, for the choir shit that he was doing for years,
the fact that he always can incorporate everybody just perfectly it's just
he applied himself he applied himself it sounds like him i know what it's i know that feeling
when you you broke up with your girl but your album is coming out your wife now i need you come
through i also know what it's like to work on something that's a little bit conceptual and
different and big in scope and thought and actually doing it
and executing it
which he did
like y'all are judging
a gospel album
I know you say
it's not traditional
I was
wait hold on
before you even say that
no no
let him get his thought off
it's just an important thought
y'all are sitting here
critiquing a gospel album
to me
that's a win
exactly
exactly
that's a win
it's a gospel album
yes
cause see to me
oh man
and this ties into the whole
even though I'm not a big believer
in the whole Kanye's a genius
like I don't run to that
like everybody else does
yeah
this feel like he created
a whole new genre
I don't call it gospel
I don't call it rap
I don't know what the fuck this is
but it's hard
like I like that part
that's the brilliance of it
that's why I think it's a masterpiece.
That's not to take,
but still,
me listening to it,
just putting my headphones on
and running through this album,
I'm like,
okay, this is cool.
Yeah, it's nude.
I don't mean it's,
oh my God,
this is amazing.
I didn't feel that.
I felt it more
watching the live streams
than listening to the album.
And that's what I was just about to say.
You know what really,
Ice Finds a new way
to come in and tick me off.
It's my birthday, so I don't care.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I don't care.
But this is my thing.
And this is what you just represented for me.
You represented the fan who, when it's not out yet, but I hear it, it's fire.
When it comes out, it's not the same for me
it's not new maybe
and I don't like
that fans do that
but that happens
no but
that happens yo
I know Demo-itis
I'm one of the kings of it
yeah
it's Demo-itis
but maybe not Demo-itis
but it kind of is
because
every time the live stream
come out
I get that
I've been listening to this
for a while
yes
loving it yeah so now for me to actually but I fell in love with certain versions come out, I get that. I've been listening to this for a while. Loving it.
You was loving it.
But I fell in love with certain versions of it.
He fell in love with certain songs, too.
Like, the very first time I heard the jail shit,
y'all know I came here like...
Yeah.
You don't like it now?
No, of course you don't.
I've been running back to that all day.
I've watched all the live streams.
I haven't saved them and listened to them like you maybe have.
So I'm kind of curious about what you think about the development of the album.
He's mad that he took Chris Brown off.
He really took Chris Brown off.
I see why Chris Brown's cursing him.
He on it, though.
Yeah, but not like he was.
Yeah, not like the version two was.
It was a duet.
You could hear chris now now
it's lowered his vocals put the choir on there yeah he's hardly there people don't like that
but you know well with yay and i don't with yay he we saw this with pablo that version is going
to come out in two weeks yeah like that's just how he do he's gonna go back in and tweak and
tweak and tweak this album's not done yeah i already had to re-download it one time.
Me too.
He got me.
He changed some of it.
Yeah, he changed it.
I don't know what.
Already?
I don't know what.
I just was pulling up earlier.
I was like, oh, shit.
The baby wasn't on the first one, right?
No.
So which version do you think is the best?
Version two.
Okay.
Which was the, not the Chicago one.
That was the second Atlanta one. Second Atlanta. Okay. That was the, not the Chicago one. That was the second Atlanta one.
Second Atlanta one.
Okay.
That was the best one to me.
Even though version three
is where we got
the baby's verse,
which I think is the standout
on the album.
Really?
Yeah.
So version two
plus the baby's verse.
Correct.
So not the Fabio verse.
It was until I heard
the baby verse.
Not the Dirk verse.
No, the Dirk verse wasn't the best anyway. I had the Fabio verse as the best verse on the album until I heard the Baby verse. Not the Dirk verse. No, the Dirk verse wasn't the best anyway.
I had the Fabio verse as the best verse on the album
until I heard the Baby verse.
That verse is different.
Honestly, I liked a lot of their verses.
I liked the Baby verse.
The features killed.
See, and that's another thing I don't like.
I saw a lot of, oh, this is too many features on the album.
Listen, there's no such thing as too many features
on the album
if they make sense
and it works
yeah
especially when
you only use that
when you want to
knock somebody
it's just the J. Cole
effect of he did it
without features
I agree
I like that too
I like it too
as long as the shit
is dope
well I liked it
the first
maybe two times
like now we wanted
to hear him
with some features
and guess what he did
went and got features
I loved hearing him with features J. Cole guess what he did? Went and got features.
I loved hearing him with features.
Yeah.
J. Cole sounds great with features.
He should do features more.
He does now.
But I like all the features on the album.
Nah, I'm not mad at any features.
No. Certain songs.
And, yo, another thing.
Joe, me and you had jokes about it.
That J. Alec verse is.
He smoked that.
Yo.
He smoked that.
I really paid attention to that verse. That's my favorite verse. I was like, that J-Elec verse is... He smoked that. He smoked that. I really paid attention
to that verse.
That's my favorite verse.
I was like...
That's my favorite verse.
I was about to ask you,
you like the baby verse
better than the J-Elec verse?
But also,
I don't know which one
of these cameras is on me.
West Side Gun,
you smoked that.
And I want everybody to know
I said it,
he smoked that verse.
The features made sense on here
I agree
and I'm not
I don't care who you got
and you still hate it
I don't hate it
I don't hate it
you still skipping everything
but four songs
I hold Kanye
you know the other problem
I hold Kanye to a very high bar
yo
like almost impossible to reach
and I said that about this album
you keep putting out
these live streams you're gonna make it to where you like i've heard versions now i don't want to
hear that after his last three albums this is a this is a lifesaver this is music to my ears i
agree after his last i didn't listen i still haven't heard the album and i still haven't
heard the kids see ghost album yet i didn't heard the Kid C. Ghost album yet.
I didn't listen to those.
So I went from Pablo,
and I didn't hear Jesus is King either.
You think Pablo's better than this?
Yes.
I don't think so.
I think Pablo.
I play more.
You think Yeezus is better than this?
I hated Yeezus.
808s?
808s is one of the greatest albums of all time to me.
Give me your order of
Kanye's discography
best to where you
808s
I go back and forth
between 808s and Graduation
okay
that's the best
Graduation's the best
I love 808s
I feel you
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
that's number two
College Dropout
that's number three
so y'all and Cahoots oh no he's got 808s higher somewhere than I do Dark Twisted Fantasy. That's number two. College Dropout. That's number three.
So y'all,
and Cahoots.
Oh no,
he's at 808's higher somewhere than I do.
Yeah,
I have 808's very high.
I don't have 808's that high.
I really,
I appreciate what it did,
but it's not one of my
favorite albums to go to.
I run to that album.
I liked Yeezus though.
See,
I didn't like Yeezus.
I like,
I like three records
off of Yeezus.
I didn't like a couple of them
at the beginning,
but from like track five on,
that shit is great. New Slaves, Bound To, and there was one more, I forget. Blood on the Leaves. three records off of Yeezus. I didn't like a couple of them at the beginning. But from like track five on,
that shit is great. New Slaves,
Bound 2,
and there was one more,
I forget.
Blood on the Leaves.
Blood on the Leaves.
Those are the three I like off Yeezus.
That was the one.
Yeah.
But yeah.
So I have no idea
where to put this in his discography.
I wouldn't.
It's too early for that.
I was about to say,
I wouldn't put this in here anyway.
I don't even sound excited
talking about Kanye.
What?
You want me to be
no you super excited
that's why
cause you love this shit
I love this shit
I asked him what his
one to ten was
you weren't here
he said 8.5
off mic
Park said like an 8
and then on mic
he said like an 8
8.5 too
so
and that's on the
quick listen
but I've loved this
from the demo
I've loved it
I've loved it
see that's my problem
I think if I didn't hear the demos, I'd like it more.
I thought it was going to be...
That happens, though.
And then when Certified Lover Boy drop,
I'm going to go back and forth from Horned Dog to Gospel King.
I'm going back and forth.
Contrast.
You need them both.
Yes, yes.
You need them both.
All right, so Drake puts out the funny picture
with all the pregnant emojis
everybody laughs
it's the album cover
I don't think it's
a funny picture
yeah
it's the album cover
but I said to myself
Elliot Wilson
confirmed
this is the official
album cover
for Certified Lover Boy
that's a horrible
album cover
I'm telling you now
I was gonna say
it's a terrible album cover
I already got my backup
that's getting changed the second I hit download
I mean
I'll take the little heart sheet Caesar
That's kind of dope to me
But
You like the emoji cover?
Yeah that's kind of dope
When you drape you can do that
No doubt
That's kind of dope
It gets people talking I get that
It's called Certified Lover Boy.
And you got a whole bunch of chicks on the cover in a second trimester.
That's dope, fam.
I mean, for me.
That's kind of hot.
You got a trimester on the fucking emoji cover.
But this shit is not it.
He can do that.
That's not it.
This is not it.
I'm listening.
Because I know you're going to say something funny.
No, I'm not funny.
We talked about before about when Joe, well, of course, it's Drake. We know it's coming. We're looking not it. I'm listening. Because I know you're going to say something funny. No, I'm not. We talked about before about when Joe, well, of course, it's Drake.
We know it's coming.
We're looking for it.
But we talked about how important your artwork is to your project.
This ain't it, man.
Drake has some questionable covers, though.
This ain't it.
He's with a bunch of emojis.
Drake's got a bunch of questionable album covers.
What's yours, then?
I don't want to get in. Y'all going to say I'm caping. Nah, I like that. They're going a bunch of questionable album covers. What's your stance? I don't want to get
y'all going to say I'm caping.
Nah, I like that.
They're going to say
I'm caping.
They say I always cape.
They think I'm an OVO.
Yeah, they do.
But
I think it's floppy.
Okay.
I think it's humorous.
I like this.
Me too.
And
if I don't like it
now they're going to say
oh, Joe got all his
basses covered
and if I don't like it, now they're going to say, oh, Joe got all his basses covered.
And if I don't like it, Drake has long ago earned the benefit of the doubt from me when it comes to album covers. Case in point, I'll give it to you.
I was in my living room with Rory when fucking, if you're reading this now, it's too late.
When that cover dropped.
Pull up all of Drake's album covers.
No, no, it's up.
Leave it right there.
Okay.
now it's too late when that cover drops.
Pull up all of Drake's album covers.
No, no, it's up.
It leaves right there.
Okay.
I thought that that was easily,
easily by far
the worst album cover in the world.
Until Care Package came out.
I thought...
Wait, no, no, no, no.
Wait, wait, wait.
My wife.
Wait, no, stop.
Stop, y'all.
Can I just finish my point?
Then this came out.
Y'all loved it.
Y'all loved it. Y'all loved it.
Which one?
If you're reading this, it's too late.
2015.
It was the best album cover ever.
Y'all changed that funny font to say anything that y'all wanted to say.
And that campaign ran for ages.
And I said, you got me.
You got me there, buddy.
I still hate that cover.
And then that was 2015.
And then Views came out.
And y'all know how I felt about that album at the time,
because I came in here and said it.
But they put the big-ass Toronto thingamajiggy there
with a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny drink there.
When I saw it, I said, cute pic, dog.
But for an album cover, nah, Aubrey.
We need to see you on your
and then
you know what they did
everybody
they took little teeny teeny
everybody was sitting up there
everybody was teeny
and they put them up there
and that campaign
ran for months
and I said
this guy fucking did it again
hey
I like
nothing was the same
2013
that cover was hard that was hard that, I like. Nothing was the same. 2013. That cover was hard.
That was hard.
That one was hard.
But it did
the same,
stop,
it did the same thing.
They took that cover.
He trolled.
Everybody else was the,
I don't know if it's him,
if it was Apple,
if it was fans,
whoever it was,
Take Care,
y'all know what we did
with the Take Care cover.
I don't have to tell y'all that.
And last,
my last one.
Take me later.
My last one was Not More Life. No, Care Package. That was a terrible cover. I don't have to tell y'all that. And last, my last one. Take me later. My last one was
Not More In Life. No, Care Package.
That was a terrible cover. I could have done that on my
iPhone.
Damn, there was one more. Where is the
Care Package cover? The one with the fucking
Benz on the cover.
Right there.
It's horrible.
Now that you mention it,
they've all been kind of bad.
Take Me Later is a bad cover.
He don't have a good cover.
No, if you're
reading this too late, that's not bad to me.
Care Package, though, is kind of
mixtape-ish.
I'll give him a pass there. Dark Lane,
same thing. That was bad.
But
those ones that
went viral and carried the shit for months and months at a time.
It's smart at the same time.
Then it's smart and bad.
This one already started.
Then it's smart and bad.
That's what I'm saying.
It started already.
Yeah.
It started.
Now I said pregnant dudes on it.
Y'all going to see this for the rest of the year, this little pregnant emoji thingamajiggy thingamajiggy.
Y'all going to see this for a long time now.
Look.
I won't see it when I play the album.
And all of y'all that hate this cover, when y'all hear the album and he start piecing
it together, why this is the fucking cover, I don't want to hear y'all come back and say,
oh, I see what he did. Nope. Nope. No, no, we can do that. I think this is the fucking cover. I don't want to hear y'all come back and say, oh, I see what he did.
Nope.
Nope.
We can still, no, no, we can do that.
I think this is funny.
We take, that's all we got right now.
We can hate this cover.
This is hilarious.
I think it's funny.
This is hard.
I think it's funny.
It's definitely hilarious.
This is great.
I think it's funny.
I think it's provocative.
I just imagine somebody that big to be busy
when people call him and say,
hey, dog, we need you to approve the picture
for the album. Why do you want to go? We need the thank yous.
We need the insert. Yo, put the
emojis.
Look at this.
Lil Nas X gotta relax,
man.
Yo, what if he can't fuck?
What? What if Lil Nas X can't
fuck? We need the g Lil Nas X can't fuck?
We need the gays to come.
We need somebody to come. All right, forget it.
I don't care.
You can't just be this boisterous about shit.
What if he trash?
We need a gay nigga to come out.
Yo, dog, that dick ain't even like that.
He run around like he the fucking big dick champ.
Oh, man. Fam, can we move on to the big dick champ. Oh, man.
Can we move on to the next topic?
Come on, man.
You're making it so comfortable, man.
Come on.
Fix him up.
Bro, that's not funny, man.
I don't think you're editing that.
First of all, I don't think you're editing that.
We're editing.
Say bye.
Did you get that?
Write that down.
Yeah, everywhere.
Paint the wall
with those timestamps.
Anyway, I think it's great.
I can't wait to hear the music.
That's all I care about.
He's dropping with no,
so he's dropping
with no official single.
And again, he's Drake, my nigga.
Like, honestly, what could he really put on the cover that's going to be fly?
Other than some abstract shit.
Just some colors on a white canvas would be dope.
But that's dope.
Yo, Drake, next time just put abs.
Now you just got to start wilding.
Now you just got to put stupid shit on your album cover.
Now you setting the bar, so now you just got to go all out. Yeah, that's funny. You just got to start wiling. Now you just got to put stupid shit on your album cover. Now you're setting the bar, so now you just got to go all out.
Yeah, that's funny.
You just got to do some wild shit there.
Now he could have went and got your man.
You want to see him do an Ohio Players album covers with the honey and shit?
This tells me this album is going to be fire.
That's what he should have did.
Wait, this don't tell you the album is going to be fire, though?
Yes.
Because if he was sitting on some bullshit, he ain't about to play with y'all like this.
Yeah, yeah yeah this tells me
nothing
you're bugging
I have
expectations
cause it's
drink
for sure
I'm talking
about looking
at this
if I don't
know shit
and I'm just
looking at this
if he's a new
artist
you don't do
this as a new
artist
you don't
but you don't
tell
this doesn't
tell me
if I was in
the record
store
I saw this
I would
probably buy
it no even if you didn't this is this doesn't tell me I'm fired. If I was in the record store and I saw this, I would probably buy it.
No, even if you didn't know. Yeah, I'm like, this is some weird shit.
Let me get this.
This looks like it could be some bullshit.
Oh, that's Drake?
All right, fuck it.
This looks like he better drop some heat.
No, I want y'all to talk about it.
Now I'm going to smoke y'all niggas' boots.
Yo, I read somewhere, somebody said that Kendrick put Georgia Smith in the PG Lang
ad.
I don't know.
The commercial?
I don't follow
the PF Changs.
If I find out
that is true.
If I find out
and come back
and walk some
takes back.
Savon.
Huh?
It's true.
I need to see that.
What do you know? I need to see that. What do you know?
I need to see that.
Show me.
Oh, no.
I'm from Missouri.
So, if that happened.
Then Kendrick's in.
Oh, no.
He's on his ass.
Number two is DMing my bitch.
He didn't say that long.
I don't know.
I don't care.
I don't care.
He was there.
King said it, right? Yeah. So't care. He was there. King said it, right?
Yeah.
So?
So.
He was there, though.
No, I don't need to watch it.
I just need to know
if it was true.
Ice the one that told me
they couldn't be talking
about each other.
But Ice, listen to this.
I went home
and listened to me talk.
You talked for three hours straight.
I know.
I know.
Then I got mad at Ice for not interrupting me.
And they got mad at me.
Like, yo, if you don't want to be there, just don't be there.
You look uninterested.
You don't tell me, yo, why you ain't say nothing?
That Joe's in his bag.
Three hours straight.
I'm about to just start playing solitaire in the fall.
You got it.
But listen, I went home and thought about your theory about if Kendrick is talking to everybody.
He's talking to Drake.
But if he's talking to everybody, I want to stay on ISIS.
Who cares about that?
Drake is in everybody, is he not?
That's what I kept saying.
That's what I'm saying.
That's not what you said.
But again, if you said, you're making it seem like I said,
yo, he's talking to everybody excluding Drake.
No, you didn't say that.
I said, no, he's in that too.
No, you didn't.
You, you, you, you, whoever else,
y'all are all in it.
That's all I kept saying.
But you kept saying that he's not...
It's like, if you're the Kansas City Chiefs,
cool, right?
Yeah.
You want to win every game.
Yeah.
But when Tampa Bay gets on your radar,
you take that game differently.
Yeah.
You're not going to just act like it's any old game.
I don't give a fuck what they say.
You can say, yo, it's any old game.
He's not looking at homeboy like he's any old regular old nigga.
Not at all.
He's not doing it.
All I'm telling you.
And that's what you were trying to say.
No, what I kept trying to say was just this.
I think that Kendrick has himself placed so high.
It's like when we talked about Michael Jackson versus Prince.
Yes, they're both greats.
Prince would not look at Michael Jackson as,
nigga, you don't play your own.
You don't do none of this shit.
You're not my competition.
Hold up.
No, stay there.
We're going to stay there.
So for Kendrick, I am the GOAT
I baited you
I threw that out there
Back in 2012
When I did the BET freestyle
And I said all of that
You ain't come out
Now I'm up here
I don't give a fuck about you
I'm not thinking about you
I'm better than all of you
I'm God now
Alright stay there
That's all
Stay there
I'm gonna use your Prince
And Michael Jackson analogy
Where I am tells a Prince and Michael Jackson analogy.
Will.i.am tells a story that Michael Jackson went to the Prince show with him.
Prince specifically walked to the corner of the stage where they were and started playing the guitar in his face.
Right?
And did some funny shit. And Will.i.am said Michael Jackson was like, why did he just do that to me?
He purposely went to the other side of the stage to show Michael Jackson, nigga, I'm better than you.
So he's not looking at Michael Jackson like he's every other artist.
He's specifically saying you are different.
Nigga's saying you're better than me.
I'm going to show you you're not.
Nigga's saying you're better than me.
I'm going to show you you're not.
I don't think you are on my level.
Right.
But you're not going to. So I'm going to do some you're not. Niggas saying you're better than me. I'm going to show you you're not. I don't think you are on my level. Right. But you're not going to.
So I'm going to do some shit you can't do.
But you're not going to show special attention to me if you think I'm just one of the fold.
No, I would.
Ice, if he's talking to everybody, then who cares about that?
That's not exciting.
Which is what I was saying.
Why are y'all, y'all are reaching to make it more interesting.
That's what I kept telling you.
No, that sounds nice.
We're reaching to make it interesting.
So the guy that has been tucked away in hiding that we haven't heard a word from
that probably has a project coming soon
and would have needed his first appearance to have some type of impact.
You think all of us just...
You don't think Kendrick knows his first appearance is going to type of impact you think all of us just you don't think kendrick
knows his first appearance is gonna have an impact regardless kendrick will come out and do anything
no not regardless not regardless and don't do anything don't talk to anybody what do you mean
do anything i'm talking about he can come out and do a verse about anything oh please bro this is
kendrick you talking about stop putting him with the little niggas i'm not gonna disagree with that
stop putting him with the little niggas he I'm not going to disagree with that. Stop putting him with the little niggas. He can pop out whenever, and it's a moment because of where he's at now.
But he don't.
He don't.
But he don't.
So when I pop out, whatever I say is going to hit.
But he don't.
I'm still me.
But he don't.
I'm still me.
No, no, stop.
But he don't.
You write in theory, he should feel like that, and I'm sure he does.
But he don't.
When he pop up it's smoke
control whatever control
he was out he was active during control though
that's different that's true
that's different that's true he ain't come
out of nowhere with the control
yeah that was different my memory is too bad
that shit was out of nowhere to go back to
the verse came out of nowhere
I thought it was out of nowhere too
he wasn't inactive.
And then when he came back on the scene, control.
He was still moving around.
And he dropped the control.
And it caught niggas by surprise.
So he came back to tell everybody again.
He the best?
On one hand, you're telling me he think he that nigga.
And he's different.
But he's coming back again to talk to all of the minions to say, yo, I'm still that nigga.
I'm not talking to the minions.
I'm not rolling with that.
I'm not talking to the minions.
I'm talking to the fans. Telling y'all, yo, I am still that nigga. I'm not talking to the minions. I'm not rolling with that. I'm not talking to the minions. I'm talking to the fans
telling y'all,
yo, I am the fucking GOAT.
Yo, you keep changing your shit,
man.
I'm done with it.
Who you got in the top?
I'm smoking on your top five.
Now he's talking to the fans.
I'm telling everybody
that I am the fucking best.
You're right.
But if he was not worried,
hear me out.
If he wasn't worried
about nobody,
he would've just made
a regular old song.
He wouldn't have had to come out like Nigga I don't give a fuck who
He's
He
I'm disagreeing with you
No I
Y'all
Hey we agree to disagree
That's cool
I ain't mad at it
I'm telling you
I'm just looking at where kids are at
Grow down on this verse please
He don't think nobody's on his level
Thank you
So if I
If I know nobody in the
If I know nobody in the school could beat me
I don't gotta keep telling y'all niggas y'all can't beat me.
But I can, though.
Because you can't beat me.
Because you can't do nothing about it.
I can continue to say it as much as I want.
Right.
Until somebody want to do something about it.
Do you really believe it, though?
Do you really got to keep telling niggas I'm the richest in the room?
Do you really like it?
I want you the richest in the room.
No.
No.
You don't have to do it.
Hey, do something about it
whoever wants to
come do something
open invitation
this is the Kendrick
invitation
it's over for that one
no no no
come get some
you can't do that
why can't he
you can't do that
that can't keep being
the course of action
you did that already
yo I come out
and what happened though
come out
everybody in the world
said something.
Not the niggas that you.
Exactly.
In that bucket.
What are you?
See?
See?
Because in their brains, they don't have to respond to you, you peon.
Ice is crazy, man.
Why does he keep changing?
Every time I think I got him on the ropes, he fucking pivots.
Hey, guess what?
I'm going to keep doing it.
Ice.
On the control verse, I'm going by what you're saying.
He was talking to everybody. Everybody came back and said, fuck you're saying he was talking talking to everybody
everybody came back and said fuck you and he didn't say nothing because that wasn't who he
was talking to it's a great point that's a really good point so wait that's what happened then mad
niggas rap and he got quiet and silent went away he didn't have to respond to us of course now here we go again
you've been quiet you pop out i'm better than everybody but hey dog we already know that
we know that so we're not about to who now is about to come out and say hey no you're not hey
i'm rapping hey no we already get it so no the next course of action i'm waiting for y'all to
do something no no no stop ice stop not in 2020 i'm waiting for
you to do something niggas did something little baby came up roddy rich came up roddy wave came
us a bunch of little niggas that have been here for a year or two and did something they did
something already so i'm not rolling with that from kendrick kendrick is just great and one of
the greatest but i don't think he's calling for a course of action from many people out there.
Roddy Ricch.
I don't think he's calling for a course of action from anybody.
And if you're right.
I don't think he cares.
And if you're right.
I really don't.
If you're right and he is talking to everybody and nobody is of any more importance than the other, then that's really boring.
That's really boring.
That's my point.
And so what?
And that was my point.
We don't care if you really in your
heart of hearts believe that nobody is on your level and you are light years ahead of all of
them yeah why say it this is the difference ice this is the difference when a hoe says
yo i fucked all them niggas and then when she starts saying who she fucked which one is a better
story yeah but you I get it.
I agree with that.
But that's two different arguments.
Not from me.
Name a name.
Tell the truth.
Say your story.
Say what's happening.
You waiting for one nigga.
It's one nigga that been playing with you behind the scenes, in records.
Like, say it.
It's one nigga that other people keep confusing with you for some strength.
Like, it's only one.
That's it.
And if it ain't if i'm
wrong then we don't care which is what i don't care which is why i don't care we don't care
that's and that's why i don't care dope verse i don't think he like i said y'all are never getting
what you were talking about that face off it's never happening that that uh take over ether
we're not getting it from somebody will have to really it's
not happening respect the other one to make it happen so because we know it's not happening
y'all can keep reaching through lines yo this line right here is about him even if it is guess what
you're not gonna get nothing else but a mean a miniature sub back says you that you say that i
say that i'm looking at history joe says i'm'm looking at history. Me too. Me too.
And Joe says,
only one person got to get mad
for this to happen.
True.
But then you have.
Not a whole bunch.
But I think you'll have
to be personal
to get somebody
out their comfort zone.
And the one person
that would need to get mad
for it to happen
has gotten mad before.
Yeah.
And he,
that nigga's petty.
He get mad quick. And when he he, that nigga's petty. He get mad quick.
And when he get mad quick enough,
songs start dropping at 2, 3, 4 a.m. sometimes,
directed toward people saying,
yo, chill out, I'm busy.
But you know what?
That's happened before.
He ain't get mad at him before.
And he's had plenty of opportunities.
That's right.
You better not get mad at him just so fast.
You better practice some mad at them just so fast. You better practice
some patience and grace.
So instead of getting mad
and dropping that record
at 2, 3 in the morning,
I'm going to send you
a little sub on this line
like I've been doing.
Depending on the mood.
Hey, the same nigga told me
Drake would never address
Kanye directly.
That was a thing.
Y'all people in hip hop
going to act like it ain't.
But that was a thing where y'all
were saying man drake would never take a time and direct man a nigga dressed him quickly
yo dog you anybody in good music big sean him you you all of y'all like
this nigga starts they oh he's sweet oh next 10 songs Was mobbed ties Like what are y'all
Talking about with him
Leave me alone
Leave me alone
I'm not talking about this
You're not getting it
You're not getting it
You're not getting it
You're not getting it
We know
That Georgia Smith shit
Along with some other things
That I'll wait
Till it plays out
Yeah let's let it play out
Y'all gonna have me
Looking crazy
But I know
Just let it play out
Just know
I be right on this shit
Hey you ain't gotta believe me I know I've been it play out. Just know I be right on this shit. Hey, you ain't got to believe me.
I know I've been nuts.
I look nuts.
You're crazy.
I be right on the money with the beef shit.
I do.
That's your shit, though.
Maybe not this year.
I don't think...
Maybe not next year, but some year.
It's coming.
It's coming.
I don't see it coming.
I would love...
Of all people...
It's going to be unquestionable who's going at who
what the fuck
they talk
it's coming
do you think
him leaving TD
might have
something to do with that
I would love
to be wrong
about this
about this in particular
you said what parts
him leaving TD
might
there might be
oh because they
could control him
a little bit
or they could
influence
they could have
influence in a situation.
So you relax.
Yeah, they put the business first.
They ain't got to do that.
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
I don't mean like control, but yeah.
Because look at this.
This is what I think.
I think Drake's got to drop.
He's dropping, right?
Right, yeah.
At some point after that, Kendrick has to drop.
True.
Which means-
Soon.
Soon.
Yeah, soon. Which means that Kendrick
is now slotted
in the time span of Drake's
I just put an album out
a little while ago.
I got some time to rap
about whatever I want.
That's where he's gonna fall into.
And if he hears something
he don't like on that album
and there's no tour
and nothing going on,
he just got some time,
could.
It just could.
You might get a time.
It just could.
You might get a time track.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't think Drake
is scared of Kendrick.
I don't think he's scared of Kendrick.
But wait, listen to me.
But this is where I go.
This is,
and I'm getting off of this,
but I think all,
I think Drake is on a mission
to dethrone all of the people that maybe at one point he was afraid of.
Jay-Z, Kanye, I won't say me.
He got me the fuck out of here.
But I'm there in that circle.
Who else?
There's some other people on that list.
Push.
Push.
Push was on there.
There's people that he would never address.
He's got a list.
He's got a list.
Kendrick is at the top.
He is the mistletoe, the star of the tree.
He's never going to be for Cole.
No, that's not it.
Ever.
That ain't happening.
So, yeah.
And Cole and Kendrick ain't never beefing.
Cole got albums coming out with both of these people.
Yeah.
So, I...
And if we're wrong,
it's exciting to think about
and have a blast with it.
Yeah, I just be
shooting the dreams down.
Don't hold your breath
on that one.
That's all I was saying.
I don't see it happening.
I would love to be
wrong about it.
I would love it.
I would normally
side with you,
but I'm curious
about the TDE thing.
I'm kind of curious
to see how Kendrick
moves without TDE,
without punching them
saying,
no,
you don't got to do that right now.
True, true.
I'm curious to see how that goes.
We might get to see the real Kendrick and see how.
He might be a petty nigga.
We don't know.
He could be ready to go.
They run a tight ship over there.
They really do.
So I'm curious to see off the leash what that looks like.
We'll find out.
I want to know what a Kendrick diss track sounds like.
A real one.
Not control. Not control.
Not subs.
Not I'm better than all of you.
I'm going in time and thought about you.
Yes.
The great Kendrick Lamar thought about you,
and this is what I've produced.
This is what I think of you.
I want to know what that sounds like from Kendrick Lamar do.
I'm eager.
I had that same
feeling wanting to hear uh hear how lupe's diss track was sounding i fucking heard it
i got a couple people i wouldn't i wouldn't want to hear how they give it up a real diss track
like who meek he's on my list didn't you hear a real diss track not but that was his real one. Okay.
Never mind then.
I bumped into Meek at the 44th. I think we had an intense conversation that I don't remember too.
I talked about a lot of important shit that night with people.
It's all a blur.
Okay.
I see you being mixy out there.
Yeah.
I heard.
You didn't hear I did hear
I did hear nigga
Saw some pictures
I heard
You just let it go
What'd you hear
Oh man
I'll tell you off
What'd you hear
I'ma tell you off
That I was mixy
Hey
Come on man
Look at the boy
Hey
I had a good I've been having a good time man I've been boy Hey I had a good
I've been having a good time man
I've been living life
I like seeing you
In shit like this
Tell you the truth
Why?
Cause you so anti
This shit
Yeah
For years
I'm still anti that shit
Nah that's a little different
You be mixing Joe out there now
Mixing with the people
Yours a little awkward in there
No
You sit Indian style anywhere?
No Alright so you good then That's all You was a little awkward in there. No. You sit Indian style anyway? No.
All right, so you good then.
That's all.
I didn't sit Indian style in the 40-40.
This was a good night, man.
This was a good night.
A lot of people came out.
Look at James Cruz.
Look at Shine.
All right.
I feel like the people in there are people that you like and respect,
as opposed to previous industry parties that you may have sat Indian style.
No, same people, just different.
Well, that too. That's not true. people, just different. Well, that's true.
That's not true.
Don't do that.
That's not true.
Don't do that.
There was a point in time when you wouldn't have conversed with me.
There was a point in time you wouldn't have conversed with Jay.
There was a point in time you wouldn't have conversed with these people.
You're talking to me.
Yeah, but you told me when I was 27.
I'm just saying there was a point in time when you would not have wanted to be in anybody's company.
You stopped on the carpet and said something to the camera?
I did not do the carpet.
I skipped the carpet.
I'm not here for a carpet.
I'm still the same Joe.
You didn't want to do a twirl?
No, I'm not.
You didn't give him nothing?
You didn't let him see the bag?
You didn't let him see the bag?
I'm not on Roc Nation. So there's no need for me to do that. Oh, nothing You didn't let him see the bag You didn't let him see the bag I'm not on Rock Nation
So there's no need for me to do this
Oh, so you weren't even invited on the carpet
Sign here, you can walk
I know you could've
No, you couldn't
You could've walked
I didn't want to do that
I thought you would at least
Let him see the bag, though
No, I don't think
I left my bag in the car
I was killing Joe all night He was like Oh, you funny now i don't see why y'all think
these things are so funny this is hilarious to us because we know you yeah that nigga this was
great when i'm winning is when i realized that hey i'm cooler with a lot more rock nation people
than i thought like benny's a Roc Nation guy.
Fab's a Roc Nation guy. Like I don't look at these people
like Roc Nation people.
But yeah, Belly's a Roc Nation
guy. Slow's
just everywhere.
Victor Cruz is... Like just people I like.
Good guys.
Then I take one picture
and boy oh boy.
Oh my God, my God, my God.
I have to come in here and explain things and break things down.
Just say you love her.
What the hell is wrong with the internet, man?
Because you're too close.
But that's not even that close.
I'm just fucking with you.
That's not close?
First off, that is close.
That is not close enough for somebody to say,
he was not social distancing.
My thumb is not on her shoulder.
It's not on her shoulder.
Oh no, that's the
right thumb.
You want to come in and play.
It's my birthday.
I don't have time for it.
Listen, Snow was one of the few people that I saw that I took a picture with.
Fam, you're a big, genuine, sincere fan of Snow.
Right, and I don't know clout change.
So I don't even see what the big deal is.
Anybody that knows you knows you're a huge, huge, huge fan of Snow.
She just happens to be uber attractive
and they made something out of it.
I have a different version.
Oh, shit.
I would love to hear this.
You agree with my version?
I agree with you.
That ain't my version at all.
What's your version?
I've been in this game for years.
And you were an animal.
This made me an animal.
Okay.
This is what Joe thinks.
So they looked at her like an antelope and you were out
on the ground grazing.
This is what I think.
Yo, go ahead. I'm listening.
I think that I saw
Snow Allegra.
Had an amazing conversation about music.
Pianos.
Tyler, the creator
on your album and why is he there so much?
Honestly, tell me.
That's what the conversation was?
Yeah, that's probably how it started.
That's what I said.
And then I walked away, but then I forgot to get a picture, so I walked back.
Say, we need a picture.
Let's do a picture.
Yeah, because our last picture was horrible.
There was a whole conversation about this picture.
We take the picture.
I walk off.
Everybody goes about their business.
And I posted, like, what, two hours later or something like that? I don't know. It was, like, two hours later. What picture? The same conversation about this picture. We take the picture. I walk off. Everybody goes about their business. And I posted like, what, two hours later or something like that?
I don't know.
It was like two hours later.
What picture?
The same night.
This picture.
That picture.
I posed this while I was still in there.
Fam, that's not the picture that you purposely took with this goddess.
We took three pictures.
Two of them looked horrible.
And then we both approved this one.
We liked this one.
It was funny.
She's funny. She just can't tell people she's funny. like this one it was funny she's funny she just can't tell people i believe you yeah she's funny we looked at this and we thought
this was hilarious and then we both went on about our business
a hour later maybe she's on twitter saying that the internet is saying that we're dating
the internet didn't say that. No, they didn't.
No, they didn't. That's not true.
Fam, rumors ain't birthed
in an hour
from the internet.
Yes, they are.
New internet.
New internet, quick.
Guess what? You got the new internet fucked up.
Joe got another one.
Maybe.
Nah, not at all. Not at all. Like you said, people know I'm a huge Guess what? You got the new internet. Fuck y'all. You're bugging. Oh, Joe got another one. Maybe. You're bugging.
Nah, not at all.
Not at all.
Like you said, people know I'm a huge fan of Snow Allegra.
None of that caption implied that we were dating.
At all.
I would never say nothing like we're dating.
I would never say anything negative about her.
Ever.
But.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
Nah.
I kind of get where he's at.
I know what he's saying.
I know what he's saying.
Yeah. There was no rumor. There was no rumor for you China. Nah. I kind of get where he's at. I know what he's saying. I know what he's saying. Yeah.
There was no rumor.
There was no rumor for you.
I heard.
I got it.
I got what he's saying.
Well, let me finish saying it.
Someone else may have said it.
No, let me finish saying it then.
There was no rumor for you to step on
unless one person out there thought
that, hey, this should be addressed and stepped on.
Scream, man.
Go to the post. And you better address addressed and stepped on. Scream, man. Go to the post.
And you better address it and step on it soon.
Like now.
Like, no, before you leave.
No.
Facebook, too.
Go up to his face and tell him we're not dating.
Reddit.
See, so listen.
So I get on the internet.
This is why I just laugh.
Whole internet.
Shade room.
All of them.
Oh, you think Joe Budden
got pop pop
I'm home laughing
my ass off
like yo
there's a nigga out there
that kinda know
Joe ain't for
playing
sometimes
hey
internet
internet
internet
I know
weird shit
a lot of funny moments
tank tops
rocks
drugs
mollies loving hip hop crying oh my god horrible accusations
from people oh it's been a mess but stop stop what we're not what we're not gonna do when it's time
to do what we're not gonna do because hey i posted that picture there's a few of you celeb niggas
popped up in my feed hey hey that's a that's a funny. I know. I know.
Hey, it's me, y'all.
It's me.
I understand.
Hey, ha, yeah.
Now I just go.
Shout out to Snow.
It was great seeing her.
It was great to see everybody there.
Great to see everybody. Who's DJ?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
Good music?
Good food?
Good music.
Yo, Johnny Nunes, if you don't give me a picture, man.
Yo, it's been 21 years now. 22 years. You Yo, Johnny Nunes, if you don't give me a picture, man. Yo, it's been 21 years now.
22 years.
You got a Johnny Nunes picture?
No.
I got a Johnny Nunes picture.
It's been 22.
I mean of me.
No, yeah.
Yeah, man.
No.
I have never gotten a Johnny Nunes picture.
Damn.
Why?
In 21 years.
I'm sick of it.
That's hilarious. Shout out to Johnny Nunes.
Legend.
Shout out to Remy.
It was a great time in there.
Really, really, really, really good time in there.
But that's all I got.
What else?
What else is important?
None is important to me because I turned my brain off.
I'm not thinking.
It's your birthday, man.
You're supposed to be relaxed, chilling, man.
41, dog.
I leave it to the young
whippersnappers out there hey y'all critique it y'all tell me what you think is going on with it
leave it in the comments of the shit it looked like a nice little evening that was a great evening
you would have had a blast you had a real good time why you ain't come he's not a sign
why didn't you come?
Why didn't I come?
Yeah.
Well, maybe you did.
Yo, you really want to?
I said why you ain't come.
I had a prior engagement.
He was busy, man.
He couldn't make it.
Got it, got it, got it.
All right, listen.
What do y'all come on?
Take it away.
I don't know what else y'all had, bro.
I'm a little late to the party here today.
What we got?
You want to break down the fight for us?
I ain't watch the fight.
I'm not watching that shit either.
The Jake Paul, I didn't watch this shit.
I was reading commentary saying it was rigged. Yeah, that's all I heard.
I saw Homeboy almost knock him out like four times.
All these shits is rigged.
Yeah, but I mean like it's like
blatantly rigged from what i'm reading with these two or with with anything involving him right now
we read that about all of his yeah that's what i'm saying i don't care about this white boy i don't
i don't i don't care nothing you can say to make me care
they're trying yo you can fight yo he's really not i know i know i don't i don't he got
an led scrolling across his all right yeah he's getting that bag that's smart it's not smart
ice whoever made them shorts paid some money to have that led sign scrolling across this
short did you say his name and Jake Paul. Uh-huh.
Which means he can say anything
that the advertiser wants it to say
in the middle of a super duper bigger fight.
Not this shit.
I'm talking about a real fight.
The next Pacquiao fight
or some shit like that,
that's monster advertising.
Got it, got it.
What's the last joint that they had
when you came in here
and talked about all the ad dollars
that were spent with him and Floyd?
Remember?
Yeah, they make a lot of money.
I just don't give a fuck about these.
Like these bum asses?
Yeah.
What was this, on a Saturday night?
Sunday.
Sunday night.
Oh, even worse.
Yeah, I'm not watching.
Cuddled up in bed.
You think I'm cutting my fight on to watch Aggression?
No, no, no.
We'll keep this Aggression off my screen
on Sunday night
on birthday week.
They had you fucked up for real.
Oh, yeah.
That's crazy.
All right, y'all don't have
nothing to talk about, clearly.
Yeah, I know.
We can say rest in peace
to Lee Scratch Perry.
Charlie Watts
from the Rolling Stones
also died.
Ed Rez,
Razner?
Right.
Ed Rez, yes.
The actor? Yeah. The voice cartoon, the voice guy. And actor. Yeah, and both. Ed Rez Rezner right Ed Rezner yes the actor yeah
the voice cartoon
the voice guy
the actor
both
and all that shit
yeah
damn
I also want to say
rest in peace
to Mercedes Moore
who passed away
this weekend
or this week
details still coming out
I'll leave that
to her family
it's not my place.
But my prayers, my thoughts are
with y'all and everybody else in Houston.
Her fans, friends, and loved
ones.
I'll queue up outstanding
while y'all are playing.
Did you watch the
Lee Perry documentary I sent you? Not yet.
Oh, okay. It's a good watch.
Fan, why ain't you send it to everybody?
You right. You right. I don't know what know. Fanway ain't send it to everybody. You right.
You right.
I don't know what it is
with them.
I don't know.
Let us watch the docs.
Yeah.
Like, I got a TV.
A small one.
13 inch.
But I can still.
Did y'all watch Bob Ross?
No.
Oh, I gotta watch that.
I ain't watch.
And this is why I talk
about things without
waiting for y'all.
That's not true.
We gonna get to it.
And they said Let's get to it like closer to real not true. We gonna get to it. And they said...
Let's get to it closer to real time.
Not just whenever you see it.
Watch White Boy Rick.
Did you see it yet? Ages ago.
That's old. Ages ago.
The Doc.
I've saw him all, man.
You gotta remember, we talking too.
I saw him all.
Saw the movie too or no?
The movie? I'm not sure if I saw the movie. I saw the movie, yeah. Saw the movie too or no? The movie?
I'm not sure if I saw the movie.
I saw the movie, him and Matthew McConaughey.
Yeah.
What's his dad?
Yeah, I watched the movie.
I didn't see the doc. You blow my mind
I feel alive
You blow my mind
I'm satisfied
I'm satisfied
So much time What? I said, you love that little bum ass song Outstanding Outstanding
Outstanding
Outstanding
I said you love that little bum ass song
Still good song
Outstanding
Outstanding
Outstanding
Outstanding
Outstanding
Yeah Outstanding is not a bum ass song
Um
Damn it was just at the tip of my brain And I forgot that fast Yeah, Stan is not a bum ass song.
Damn.
It was just at the tip of my brain and I forgot that fast.
It's fine.
I don't care.
It's over.
You had like seven trillion things the other day.
It's my birthday-ish.
Okay. I'm not coaching.
I'm not narrating, hosting.
I'm not pulling topics out my ass.
I'm leaving.
You niggas don't want to talk?
Me either.
I don't either.
Anything else?
Take it away, please.
I just got here late and ain't got nothing to say.
Man, the day I had, I don't have anything to say.
I can't always put the battery.
You know what I mean?
Not on my birthday, y'all. Not put the battery. You know what I mean? Not on my birthday, y'all.
Not on my birthday.
You know what I mean?
I had the day from hell.
What you going to do for your birthday, man?
Any big plans?
Nah, I'm going to chill out.
Okay.
Chill out.
Nothing too big.
Have some cake.
See some people I love.
That's about it.
Know y'all means? What does a y'all mean? have some cake, see some people I love. That's about it. No yamins?
What does a yam mean?
A yamin.
A yamin.
All right, let's get to sleepers.
It's all right.
It's all right.
It's your birthday, Joe.
I know.
I know it is, buddy.
And I'm going to enjoy it.
That's what birthdays were meant for.
You can't heal my wounds
When you're the reason I'm still blue
You can't be my guide
When you're the reason I'm still blind
You can't be but nothing's done
But nothing's done When you're the reason I'm
Seemed so far
You can't be my friend
When all I want is you
And the end You can't fix me, me
I'm sorry
Broken is the boy with no soul You're the reason nothing hurts now everything
is cold Can I?
Heavy is the heart made of stone I'm solid as a rock, now I can barely run
You can't be my northern star
When your love raised at home
Same so far
You can't fix me You can't fix me
You can't fix me
That's where I'm going.
Fix me in your phone right now.
Fix me in your phone right now. Ooh. Ooh.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Ooh.
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Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. DJ Verified came out.
A little something.
All right, we'll play something off of this
Duty Low album.
It's called Don't Worry,
featuring Moneybagg Yo.
I can't take no more of this shit, this shit has hurt me Fightin' demons in my sleep, I'm open, they don't murder me
Loyal to the bone, half of these niggas don't deserve me
Remember them days, you ain't fuck with me, you curve me
Sip, sip, dirty, I'm talkin', you ain't hurt me
Ain't know that I'm worthy, if I love you, just don't worry
Sip, sip, dirty, I'm talkin', you ain't hurt me
Ain't know that I'm worthy, if I love you, just don't worry
I be poppin' Xanny pills, smirk, say it make him nervous
And I keep my Glock with me, tell my driver, stop swervin'
Ever since I started rappin', shit, I ain't stop servin'
Go get him, we murk, I pray to God God cause I ain't perfect I put on for my city
Fuck Adele, I need the Millie's He want Bobby, sell him Whitney
Drinkin' lean, hurt my kidneys Drinkin' green, hurt my feelings
She pop X and she get lady GK say I say them niggas
Feel the block, I swear to nigga I can't take no more of this shit
This shit is hurting me Fighting demons in my sleep
One more but they don't murder me Loyal to the bone, half of these niggas don't deserve me Remember them days when we fucked when you I was broke, smoking skim blunts, now I'm putting 3-5 in the woods
And going through them made a better me, I wouldn't change nothing if I could
You know niggas gon' be niggas, and these hoes just gon' be hoes
Coming up, I once was told on script, that shit you can't control
Let's get money, take advantage of that position you in
Let's be honest, first I made a way then brought my brothers in
My lil' hit'll pop a pill and say a prayer before he spend
Hate when niggas put in work and then go speak on what they did
Stacking M's on top of M's, can't no nigga look boy me
It's so many question marks bout these niggas' loyalty
Fishbowl in the Lambo, I ain't got one thing to hide
In the water, swimming with the sharks, don't get ate alive I can't take no more of this shit
This shit is hurting me Fighting demons in my sleep
I'm open, they don't murder me Loyal to the bone
Half of these niggas don't deserve me Remember them days you ain't fuck with me
You curve me Sip, sip, dirty
I'm talking, you ain't hurt me Ain't know that I'm worthy
If I love you, just don't worry Sip, sip, dirty
I'm talking, you ain't hurt me Ain't know that I'm worthy If I let you, just don't worry Sip, sip, dirty I'm talking, you ain't heard me
Ain't know that I'm waiting
If I let you, just don't worry
Yep, that was Don't Worry.
Doody Lo featuring Moneybagg Yo off of his new album, Big Doody Lo.
Alright, I'm gonna play some Lee Scratch Perry shit, man.
He's one of the most inventive producer, engineer, musicians of all time.
This is Disco Devil.
You guys will recognize from the popular sample.
Lucifer, son of the morning, I'm going call an iron shirt
And chase Satan out of the room
I'm gonna call an iron shirt
And chase the devil out of the room
Disco devil
I'm gonna call an iron shirt
I'm gonna call an iron shirt
I'm gonna call an iron shirt Dress as a disco rebel And chase the devil out of town Disco devil Look out the disco devil
Dress as a disco rebel
Disco devil
Never the disco devil
Dress as a disco rebel
Disco
She bomb, she bomb, she not a bandit's gang
She bomb, she bomb, she not a bandit's gang
She bomb, she bomb, she not a bandit's gang She bum, she bum, she not up on the scan
She bum, she bum, she not up on the scan
Look out the disco devil
Dress as a disco baby
Level the disco devil
Dress as a disco baby
No matter make no trouble
Fight in here full of women my body make no trouble, fighting a fool all the way through
It's the devil, my body make no trouble, fighting a fool all the way through
She-Bomb
She-Bomb
She-Bomb You can't tempt your man with cocaine
Go and give it to the Pope
Make him take it up
If you are a disco devil
I am a disco well
I'm gonna put on my iron shirt
And top you out of earth
Disco devil
You are a disco devil
I am a disco devil
Disco devil
You are a disco devil
I am a disco devil
She bomb, she bomb, she bomb She bomb, she not up on this game I am a disco rebel. Wah! Kibam, kibam, kibam.
Kibam, kinato panis gang.
Kibam, kinato panis gang.
Kibam, kinato panis gang.
I'm not a disco devil.
Dress as a disco rebel.
Disco devil.
Lee Scratch Perry.
Rest in peace.
The legend.
The legend. Watch the doc. the legend. The legend, legend.
Watch the doc.
It's called The Upsetter.
Benicio Del Toro was the narrator.
He basically invented like part of the,
one of the inventors of reggae.
He broke Bob Marley.
He invented dub mixes, which that was.
That's a dub mix where they,
it's basically a remix.
He's one of the first people to sample.
Oh, so he's like
the super innovator
super innovator
okay
and he's
he's very eccentric
so his story is crazy
and what's the doc called again?
The Upsetter
Upsetter
it's on YouTube and shit
I don't know what
official place it exists
but
good enough
but there is an official
place somewhere
maybe I don't know
I don't know who controls
the YouTube
but the whole thing
is up there in full cause I'm a bougie doc guy yeah I feel you I need to know. I don't know who controls the YouTube, but the whole thing is up there in full.
Because I'm a bougie doc guy.
Yeah, I feel you.
I need to watch it.
No, I'm with you.
It probably is.
I mean, Benicio Del Toro narrated it,
so I'm sure it's probably somewhere real.
If it's somewhere real, I'll find it.
Yeah.
I get to all them shits and start searching around.
I'm trying to throw the little ads.
I don't pay for YouTube.
They didn't do it.
Oh, they did?
There was no ad.
All right, nice.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I'm in.
I'm in on this. One hand in the air, if you don't do it. Oh, they didn't? There was no end. All right, nice. Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm in. I'm in on this.
One hand in the air, if you don't really care.
Two hands in the air, if you don't really care.
It's like that sometimes, I mean, ridiculous.
But that's why I tell the fans out there,
don't tell me to not talk on the podcast,
because you think it ain't going to talk.
No, my guy will leave.
I miss having to talk.
All right, let's start right now.
What's up?
What's up? What's up? I know, I know, I know. I miss having to talk Yo keep us in your prayers Or don't I'm out man I'm 41 years old
God gave it to me
That's the mood you're supposed to be in
For your birthday
I don't give a fuck
I got 41 of them things.
It's here.
Pray for me.
Don't.
Give me the money you owe me.
Don't.
Like, what the fuck you want me to do?
Let's have a mature conversation.
Or not.
Or don't.
Or not.
Hey, let's peace it up.
Or not.
Listen, what you want me to do? Let's love each other. Or not. Yeah, or don't. Hey, let's peace it up. Or not. Like, listen, what you want me to do?
Let's love each other.
Or not.
Or not, man.
I'm in the or not stage of life, man.
And it feels good.
It feels good.
We'll see what tonight feels like.
We're going to turn up for you, bro.
We have to.
I'm tired of turning up, but I'm going to turn up for you. bro. We have to. I'm tired of turning up, but I'm going to turn up for you.
Yeah, you should be.
I'm exhausted.
You should be done.
I was going to say, turn it out.
I'm going to Starling.
No, me too.
No, I'm tired of turning up too.
Yeah.
I've been going since before Park's wedding, since Toys going away party.
I have not stopped.
Me either.
And you 41.
My credit cards are begging mercy.
Yeah, nah. It is. You we remember we remember the song god is good right don't try to hit us with that one something like
well no but now he's seeing all them charges now yeah that's all yeah once you look back on your
little budget app you're like oh wait that was wild My budget app
You don't got prepaid for most of that shit?
I did
Yeah right
I can have fun with it
It's light
It's parks
You keep trying to make that be the case for everybody
Or at least make it appear that way
It's always light
Like when's it heavy?
When you looking at my pocket
It's heavy. Hey, y'all. Hey, y'all. Hey, y'all. Hey, y'all. Hey, y'all. Hey, y'all. Hey, y'all. More victories is for minor league coaches.
And yeah, Randy told you we major you cockroaches.
Y'all hold it down.
Prayers up to Louisiana, Mississippi, and anywhere else that's affected by Ida.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a front.
Y'all outro this shit, man.
41, right?
Yeah, go ahead.
Get your shit off.
What?
What?
The baddies, what would they need?
The baddies need ibuprofen and sinks. Yeah, BBLs. Yeah, the baddies Get your shit off. What, the baddies, what would they need? The baddies need ibuprofen and zinc.
BBLs.
Yeah, the baddies need BBLs.
No, they don't.
They got them already.
Okay.
I don't know how it goes.
Is this y'all idea of what I be doing?
The genius outro that I do?
Yeah.
Is this what y'all are doing?
It's the remix.
It's the dub version.
It's not y'all's version.
We know your outro.
No, but the...
Look, we. You know. Exotic bitches.
Man, this shit is.
Life is a series of moments and moments past.
Make a blast.
Make a blast.
That's your ass.
This is all we have.
Because it is.
And remember, the baddies are insecure.
The closed minded want to travel, want to learn some shit.
It's y'all out there that say, Joe, let your co-host talk.
I just want to keep it.
I just want to keep the energy.
Hey, Video Village.
That's what you're doing.
Hey, y'all here, right?
Y'all hear me?
Y'all hear me putting it by the rim?
It's my birthday, right?
Move a bird.
Yeah, yeah.
Of a goose.
Them fools coming in a baker's dozen.
Joe, we gone, man.
Keep us in your prayers or not.
Same time, same place on Saturday.
Y'all hold it down.
I'm saving my energy for the Drake drop.
I ain't giving y'all all my fucking shit.
I'm chilling right now.
It's the third quarter right now.
Yeah, baby.
Can't cut it off on push
aspire for more the kilos came we gave
you Bobby Brown jaw
flow similar to the legends of the
falls spilling I own you all