The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 471 | "Trevor Joah"

Episode Date: September 15, 2021

Joe continues to run through the streets of New York and on this episode he share's his experience at Fabolous's surprise party (26:30). The event inspired Joe to share is appreciation for Fabolous an...d also reflect on his own rap career (31:00). The guys then switch gears to debate the legalization of recreational drugs and guns (44:40), Joe runs into Trey Songz (1:06:10), and also predictions of the Ja Rule and Fat Joe Verzuz (1:15:05). The VMA's were filled with surprises yet Joe's biggest takeaway was Justin Bieber receiving the 'Artist of the Year' award (2:03:50), a call from Vince Staples which is always entertaining (2:52:00) and more!   Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Jacquees - “Bed Friend” (Ft. Queen Naija)   Ice | Joe Budden - “NBA” (Ft. Wiz Khalifa, Fabolous, & French Montana    Parks | Guilty Simpson & Gensu Dean - “Don’t Pull”   Ish | AZ - “The Ritual” (Ft. Conway The Machine & Lil Wayne)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Give me a little bit of something. Actually, they don't. I'm just stupid. Are we on? Are we live? Hey! Are we rolling? It's Ice and Ice.
Starting point is 00:00:09 And for the channel. And everything. They boning. Ba-da-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. Now. Do-do-do-do-do. Yeah. Now, in a moment of transparency.
Starting point is 00:00:21 First of all, hi, you guys. Hey! Hey, everyone. Welcome back to my house. No, no, no. Don't you try it. Don't you try it. Don't you try it, buddy.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Look. Come on. Come on. Come on, B. I don't want no more. Come on. We back. We got to start with some sauce.
Starting point is 00:00:38 It's Wednesday. We don't, though. We do now. We do. Okay. All right. In a moment of transparency, I will be honest with all of you guys and tell you exactly what happened.
Starting point is 00:00:50 The Pats drafted Mac Jones, and boy, did he strut out of that locker room. Remember how he walked? He strutted out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He strutted like he just knew that the starting job would be his. He did. It was a sassy little strut, that Mac. It was. But I don't blame him. He did. It was a sassy little strut, that Mack.
Starting point is 00:01:05 It was. But I don't blame him. He killed shit at Alabama. But now Cam is a former MVP of the league. He put the little picture up that said QB1. Nobody ever thought anything into it. But I did. I was like, oh, man, he must be fighting to get QB1.
Starting point is 00:01:21 And then he went down with COVID. And then they cut him. Sure did. Get him out of here. went down with COVID and then they cut him sure get him out of here now Cam says it's because his presence alone would be too much of a distracting factor for Matt Jones the rookie I apologize if vagina is drying up I'll speed up my analogy now what happened is let's replace COVID with whatever tropical thunderstorm hurricane came here. Ike. It was Ida. Ida.
Starting point is 00:01:50 It was Ida. Ida. We got remnants of Ida and towns and homes were affected, including our home. Our home that we record in so many memories. Well, not a lot of memories. We just got here. We're going to make so many new memories here, right? We had to relocate to another spot, man.
Starting point is 00:02:15 And the other spot is a restaurant over there. And Ish and Ice eat a lot. I don't eat that much. So when today was announced we were coming home, everyone was excited, except for a few, being
Starting point is 00:02:33 Ish and Ice, Savon, and I don't know about Alex, but I assume he's down with Savon. Erickson's cool to record no matter where we are. What I told you on the card, man. You got to stop putting these false narratives on me. Yeah, you got to.
Starting point is 00:02:48 But Parks, if you look at him today, he just has an extra pep in his step. He glowing right now. Yeah. Hey, man. Illuminating. Happy to be back. I am. Home.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I am. Curls are big. Home. Although that is my home, too, but, you know. And now we have another divisive entity here. Something that could break up the new crew. And I do not have two more friends. I don't.
Starting point is 00:03:17 It's going to be me and two people you don't want to hear from. But Ice and Ish, do you have anything you want to say to Parks? I promise you we can get you the chicken parm here. They deliver. You said me. It might be, I don't know, man. It's going to be
Starting point is 00:03:30 an uphill battle, Parks. I don't know. I got to start making my own chicken parm to woo them back. Lamb chop something. You got to cook in here for us.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I want you to cook naked, but yeah, you got to force us back here. I'm going to wear clothes. Fuck. It's dangerous. Why do you want them to cook naked? You got to lure us back in here somehow. That's not going to force us back here. I'm going to wear clothes. Fuck. It's dangerous. Why do you want them to cook naked? Because you got to lure us back in here somehow.
Starting point is 00:03:48 That's not going to lure us back in here. It'll lure me. Seeing six foot parks. Six foot five. One ass in the kitchen is not going to do it. Fuck is wrong. Tell us why you guys look so much comfortable around the chicken farm. Because they have sleep from it.
Starting point is 00:04:02 No, what are you talking? Fam, I'm getting a check. I could pod in the truck. Oh, damn. So you don't really sleep from it. What are you talking? Fam, I'm getting a check. I could pod in the truck. Oh, damn. You don't really care about it. You heard him. I'm getting a check. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I thought it was the friendship. I literally just said that. Well, you said it too. I said, fam, I can cut this Insta live on and we can pod wherever. I don't care. Goodness gracious. Let me just start. These guys are here for a check.
Starting point is 00:04:25 I checked my account. I said, oh, yeah,. Let me just start. These guys are here for a check. Check my account. I said, oh, yeah, let's pod. Wait, what did you say? I checked my account, and I was like, yeah, let's pod. Oh, so you check your account before you come in. I'm finding out a lot of information here. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Mic check, one, two, one, two. Mic check, one, two, one, two. One, two, one, two mic check, one two, one two One two, one two, we bike, we bike You know what I mean? Get my levels up in the headphones a little bit, get back in my zone Let me turn his headphones up too This nigga's 75 years old, let me turn it up for him Uh-oh, I got dough Come on, some of y'all was outside. We vibing.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Nasty on the cord. Oh, the mic. Oops. Oh, come on. Let's go, this boy. Oh, my goodness gracious. They cover the whole time. Must be because my flow's fire. My name getting passed all through New York like short flyers. Oh, my goodness gracious. That's when they used to hand flyers out. He killed that.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I'm starting with fab appreciation. Sorry. Let's go, Brooklyn. The Latin peppers got suede retros to the patent levers. F-A-B-O-L-O-U-S. Hot side. Niggas who work on the block, a few days to resign On what front page they want, the news day of the times
Starting point is 00:05:48 My jeans sag to the right from the two way and the nine I float on Monday night, Tuesday State your name, Cal, you're fabulous Where you from, nigga? Feel like I've been gone forever, shout out to the first and last time listeners You know what this is, store? Shout out to anybody that's been outside all weekend, it's been a lot of y'all Still taking it, running out of time in a redneck town You should last time, listeners. Shout out to everybody that have been outside all weekend. It's been a lot of y'all. Sorry. Like ski masses And since I've been with the school I can shoot up the club Mommy still gon' ride
Starting point is 00:06:45 Like she Jennifer True Sorry Ain't no apologies needed Oh shit The hell's going on here? A dead record? Nothing works now that we back at Park's house Nothing works right now that we back at Park's house
Starting point is 00:07:02 I don't understand it Don't blame your Serato problems on me Nah, nothing is working right now that we back at Park's house. I don't understand it. Don't blame your Serato problems on me. Nah, nothing is working right now that we back at Park's, but it's good. I'm in my bed. New York, what up? We live. And you say New York City.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I can't even get no reverb. I need a real engineer in this. I can't even get no reverb. Oh, no. Oh, my God. Turn it off. Turn it off. Because you niggas was born in 94. What the fuck is going on when this record came out?
Starting point is 00:07:40 Sick of young people. No more young people. Go away. School is starting. Round of applause. Get your young asses off of the streets. Go buy a book bag of Jansport. Go ask your fucking stepdad for help with your homework.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Parents are tired of their fucking kids. Nah, yo, hold on. I gotta be the stepdad. Nah, I'm tired of your parents. Your dad ain't helping you with your fucking homework. I ain't going to hold you. Your dad is out selling drugs, trying to make a fucking earn a living. Yo, with the schools back on, yo, traffic fucked up out there now, though.
Starting point is 00:08:16 This shit, I kind of wish they was back home. They fucked it up. Get your little dusty asses back to Miss Griffin's class. Sorry. Take a turn on them all right now. Old nigga vibes. Woo! One and then the two, two and then the three,
Starting point is 00:08:36 three and then the four, four. Then you gotta breathe. One and then the two, two and then the three, three and then the four, four. Then you gotta breathe. Then you gotta, oh, do you gotta, oh Yo, these niggas can't breathe when I come through Hum to some shoes, gotta be 20 minutes It's not even funny, they can't
Starting point is 00:08:56 It's so cold, it's too tight That's how you know you're getting excited as a 41-year-old Where's my coffee at? Oh my God! Look, they hearts racing, they start chasing But I'm so fast when I blow past that they can't 41 year old, where's my coffee at? Oh my god! year by year like they say wine do cops couldn't smell me if you brought the canines through and i pace myself i know these money hungry bitches wanna taste my wealth but i keep em on a diet embrace they health or even keep em on the quiet and space myself and just take a deep breath i got em grabbin they chest cause its hurting them to see fab and his best and then they roast they rather see me in a hearse than lay in the back
Starting point is 00:09:45 And I ain't just layin' the verse, I'm sayin' the facts I came back with some sick of stones I got these broke niggas lookin' at me like they chokin' on a chicken bone Every chick I bone can't leave the dick alone So I know it's one of them every time I pick my phone Breathe, one and then a two, two, two and then a three Three, three and then a four, two Two and then a three, three Three and then a four, four Then you gotta breathe
Starting point is 00:10:06 One and then a two, two Two and then a three, three Three and then a four, four Then you gotta breathe One and then a two, two Two and then a three, three Three and then a four, four Then you gotta breathe
Starting point is 00:10:18 Then you gotta, then you gotta, then you gotta Then you gotta, then you gotta, then you gotta Why not those? Queens, what up? Brooklyn, what up? I don't care what y'all do How y'all do it We out doing it
Starting point is 00:10:35 Just keep it gangsta Look at them gangsta Fabs living the vida loca The only nigga in the hood you can come see For either weed or coca Narcs wanna see me and my team in a chair They heard about the kid with the high beams in his ear DEA been lookin' for proof since 9-3
Starting point is 00:10:56 When I came through in the bins with the roof behind me Tell them Jakes, throw on bulletproofs and find me You need extinguishers to go in the booth behind me Who the fuck want a beef? My Finney Knits B3X so you can't see what's tucked underneath And I might not even drive Just take my advance and make this small town in Cleveland pop This boy was different, man
Starting point is 00:11:20 This guy was different I know Ice might get mad at me Starting with Fab Appreciation The guy was different And I might not even drop Just take my advance And make a small town in Cleveland pop Oh no
Starting point is 00:11:37 Alright last one for the road with your sleeves on top Them niggas know where my heat stay at I leave niggas in my head and I ain't talkin' with a hero I can't deny it, I'ma fuck with me Got the scales in the trunk with me I'ma put it on, I'ma put it on Got the scales and the trump with me What you want me to cut my fab short? My fab set short? And get into the Met Gala? Want me to tell you which outfits was hot? No I don't know about my gang with me
Starting point is 00:12:13 Niggas truth, I got my thang with me If they want it, cowards get it They still wonder how Oh, I pulled up so fast for my cameo in this video Playing all this stuff, man. I was there. Round of applause for being there. Web and them said, yo, they shooting this vid over here.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Stump Nate Dog, we gonna run over there. You gonna get your cameo. New artist. It's gonna be lit. I got over there. I was excited. I got dressed. Bought a little outfit from the Coliseum.
Starting point is 00:12:41 And I wasn't in the video. I wasn't in the video. It wasn't about me. But you was there, though. I was there. I was there, and I wasn't in the video. I wasn't in the video. It wasn't about me. But you was there, though. I was there. I was there, but I wasn't in the video. I need a cameo from you. You're not even like your back?
Starting point is 00:12:55 See, but this- Yeah, I was on it. No, all that's wrong. All that's wrong. That wasn't my man. Wasn't my man at all. That was a nigga- That was your team.
Starting point is 00:13:04 On the team, doing a solid for the team in terms of the freestyle coming for you freestyle popped up when he wasn't supposed to right and because you listening to fab or me at the time was listening to fab for so many years on these mixtapes and i didn't know shit about the industry i didn't i'm not thinking this is this guy's first album this is this guy's first single for his first album they had to fight rest in peace nate dog they had to fight to get the nate dog feature they had to fight for the rick rock beat am i saying his name that's rick rick rock yeah rick rock at the time hottest fish grease shout out to rick rock so they had all of these
Starting point is 00:13:41 things working in their favor it wasn't the time to to put the new act from the mixtape in a video. I didn't know that. Maybe we didn't know that, but we didn't get the video, and the single worked. Back to it. I did it. Now y'all with it. These niggas see how I spit it.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Video was fire, too. These bitches see how I spit it. I would have gotten in and fucked this whole shit up. My poop a block away. Bitches be yellin' Let me ride like they Snoop and Dr. Dre I keep spittin' Them clips cocked on the Cali codes
Starting point is 00:14:10 Keep shittin' With shit blocks for that Cali road Keep hittin' And shit blocks for that Cali dough Keep gettin' My tip rocked by them Cali codes It's William Bonney Still them mommies
Starting point is 00:14:20 Dance closely Even though they feel like lommies Syllables Tell me who was Highlighting them Slow like that Before then I'll wait Come on
Starting point is 00:14:29 Let's go through it Y'all love when Big Sean and Nicki And all these niggas Do it right Tell me who was Doing it then Mace
Starting point is 00:14:35 Yeah Well no Not when Fab dropped Mace was in church But Mace is from then No no no no no no No no no no Mace Mace Mace was not around He was in church. But Mace is from then. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Mace.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Mace. Mace was not around. He was in church. I agreed with y'all. Y'all don't have to argue with me. I said Mace. But there was no Mace here. That's true.
Starting point is 00:14:53 That's all I'm saying. Yes, Mace. But it ain't but so many niggas. Keep going. I'll wait. Oh, no, no, no. It ain't but so many niggas. And this generation act like Mace didn't even exist.
Starting point is 00:15:02 So what do you want me to say? Shout out to Mace. Peace to your chest. And you want me to say? Tryna send police to your rest Tryna put this piece to your chest And you in peace with the rest You can't release to the press This how G's ride from the north to the south To the east to the west Can't deny it, I'm a fuckin' goddard
Starting point is 00:15:16 You don't wanna fuck with me Got skills in the trunk with me Switchin' nerves Then came back with the remix On New York, niggas on this, Nate Dogg, yo It's a West Coast sounding beat with Nate Dogg With a new East Coast nigga And then the towers dropped My thang with me
Starting point is 00:15:35 Yo ma, I got you stuck off the run Microphone check, one, two, what is this? No Joe Budden Not for daddy Not for daddy Oops, see that's how I used to fuck up Microphone check, one, two, what is this? What episode is this?
Starting point is 00:16:25 471 Is, mmm to eat the chicken parmesan elsewhere. You can't like recording elsewhere. We're held hostage here. True. That's true. Ish is here. Missing his chicken parm. Hey, I'm sorry, Ish. Fat fuck. I'm telling you we can get the chicken parm.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Fam, why are you even listening to this nigga, man? I know you love the chicken parm. Ice is here. You had two chicken parms the other day. And we got Video Village in the back. It's impressive. Gentlemen, how's everyone doing? Our millions of people don't care about the chicken parm. How's everybody doing?
Starting point is 00:16:46 How y'all feeling? How you doing? How was your weekend? On Wednesdays, I always feel like I haven't seen you guys in ages, and there's a man's shit to talk about. So here we are. What's going on? I'm chilling, man.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Most of the weekend, I was doing this, rewiring all this shit. I had to take everything down and build it back from scratch. Now, why is that? Tell the audience. Because Hurricane Ida hit New York after we escaped it in New Orleans. It came and found me. And we had about four to six. Don't you think it was getting away, buddy?
Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah, I thought it did. I thought it got out smooth, but nah, she came back. I got about four to eight inches in here of water. And luckily, nothing was on the floor. Luckily, it was not sewage water. So it wasn't nasty. That was good.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Clap it up. Thank God. That would have been... I would have had to throw the whole apartment out. If this was shit water, oh man. Yeah, then you would have just had to
Starting point is 00:17:30 live in your other apartments. Duh. So? But yeah, so it was a motherfucker, but you know, we had to clean and mop and disinfect
Starting point is 00:17:39 and dehumidify. I got to give it to you. It looked good in here. Yeah, it's not bad, right? It's like nothing happened. Right. I got to give it to you. Smells fresh good in here. Yeah, it's not bad, right? It looks like nothing happened. Right. I got to give it to you. Smells fresh, right?
Starting point is 00:17:47 Yeah. Good. Good. It was a lot of work. How about you, Ish? How was your weekend? It was cool. Work.
Starting point is 00:17:53 All right, Ice, what's up? Ice, how about you? We're good. Are you still... I'm hip to Ish. I work for a living, nigga. Are you still recovering from the hurricane as well?
Starting point is 00:18:02 Are you still out here rebuilding shit? I mean... I ain't seen him on a house site in a little while. I ain't gonna lie. nigga. Are you still recovering from the hurricane as well? Are you still out here rebuilding shit? I ain't seen him on a house site in a little while. I ain't gonna lie. I used to see a little picture with his little
Starting point is 00:18:12 construction outfits. He don't even drive his little construction truck no more. He Ubered over the day. You still got it? You still got a construction truck? Of course.
Starting point is 00:18:20 I own a construction company. I didn't ask you that. Are people hiring you still? Yeah, nigga. All right, no, that's dope. That's dope. Nah, good. Keep your clientele up. You're moving different out here. I just asked. I own a construction company. I didn't ask you that. Are people hiring you still? Yeah, nigga. All right, no, that's dope. That's dope. Nah, good. Keep your clientele up.
Starting point is 00:18:27 You're moving different out here. I just asked. I'm moving different. Yo, anyway. Nah, I'm still recovering. Yo, anyway, no. My own personal shit? Yeah, straight.
Starting point is 00:18:35 But I mean, some of the jobs you're doing? Nah, yeah, yeah. New Jersey got their asses whipped. Yeah, no. Like, seriously. All jokes aside, a lot of motherfuckers really got. You were telling me it was so bad the president had to go out there and...
Starting point is 00:18:47 Yeah, yeah, and that was down far. I'm talking about close to where we are. Yeah, I heard Newark got smacked. You didn't get nothing over there?
Starting point is 00:18:52 It depends on where you were. Like, some areas were a little lower, so they got their asses with... Down by, like, the swampy kind of areas over there? No, there's some, like,
Starting point is 00:19:00 swampland down there. By the Meadowlands, it's out of the swamp. Not that. I'm talking about inner cities. Some people really, really Like you ride by And you see people
Starting point is 00:19:07 All of their belongings On the front lawn That shit is disheartening For real for real All jokes aside No I'm super glad that It was just water here You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:19:16 It could have been way worse Way worse Shout out to anybody that's You know Dealing with a bunch of bullshit Yeah praise to anybody that In New Jersey or anywhere That was affected by
Starting point is 00:19:24 All of that. Does New Orleans have electricity yet? I don't know if they do. I don't know. Yeah, prayers to them. That's a bitch. I didn't realize it was that bad. Nah, they got smacked.
Starting point is 00:19:34 We should be able to look that up, right? Well, I know as of like last week, they still didn't. I don't know if they got it fixed yet, but... That's why you didn't check back up on them. I'd be too busy rewiring my shit. One day ago, it says roughly
Starting point is 00:19:47 100,000 customers remain without power two weeks after Ida. Mm-hmm. Yeah, no. I couldn't imagine like that prayer. Fam.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Word. So think, it's 90-something degrees down that bitch with no electricity. And we be bitching about dumb shit. Yeah, that's real.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I don't bitch about dumb shit I can mop a little bit and pick up the cables compared to that you always get intense Ice how was your weekend man? pretty good? I'm so dumb I'm sticking inside of the room I'm moving right on
Starting point is 00:20:19 doing the deck I'm doing the deck Fred's got out of that bitch. Definitely got out of that. Yo. You know the Dak. A little show. A little shit.
Starting point is 00:20:32 That should be working. That should be working. Yeah, we got to have a real talk about Dak. Yeah, we have to have a real talk about Dak. I'll come out. I'll come out.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Come on. Go ahead. He's wanted on. He's wanted on. No, he's wanted on. I'm not going to say a word. My very first time. He's wanted on them. No, he's one of them. I'm not going to say a word. My very first pot. He's one of them.
Starting point is 00:20:46 The very first pot I ever was on. I said he's not a top seven quarterback. That's not really a slight. He might be. He might be eight. I can't name nine better than young Dak. But I think that's where we got to. In fantasy, he's a top three quarterback.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Yeah. I'm sick of him in fantasy. Keep going. It's just smiling. No, I'm just of him in fantasy. Keep going. It's just smiling. Nah, I'm just saying. Keep going. The talk was about who you're talking about. Why are you 0-1 like us?
Starting point is 00:21:10 No. We all 0-1. We're talking about Dak. Not all. Not all. No, we all are not 0-1. We are not all 0-1. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:21:16 I wasn't talking about the Steelers. That was a fluke-ass game. He don't feel good about that win. You don't feel good about that. You don't feel good about that win. No, you don't. Shut up. A win is a win, though.
Starting point is 00:21:23 It's a win, though. Yo, the Giants look so bad. Yeah, I do feel good about that. You don't feel good about that win. No, you don't. Shut up. A win is a win, though. It's a win, though. Yo, the Giants look so bad. Yeah, I do feel good. It's going to be a long season, but I'm going to have so much fun as a fan watching Alabama games. Now, honestly, Alabama's going to be real good this year. Whoever their quarterback is this year. Whoever is on Alabama. Let's just take them.
Starting point is 00:21:43 That's going to be great. Ice, you were saying Your weekend Yeah my weekend was a little Up and down You know we went out Last week But I got robbed Saturday What?
Starting point is 00:21:55 Yeah man What's robbed? I'm about to explain it to you Okay So I'm glad you ain't calling me I hate when my friends think That I'll come help with some things that I won't help with, right? You're getting robbed?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Oh, that's crazy. Damn. Damn. Let's go see if you can read his plate. Yo, let me get a pen. Hold on, I got to tell you what happened, though, so you understand. Please. So.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Yo, did we cut the air off? I went. It's so stupid. I had an abundance of singles left over. Because I didn't really, I didn't really find anything that I wanted to
Starting point is 00:22:32 throw these singles on. So I had an abundance of singles left over. An abundance. So I walk in the crib and I left the singles on the table. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Shorty took that as a mistake. Shorty was like, oh, well, you were going to spend this anyway, so. Right. Naturally. So it's spent. So, yeah, it's spent.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I said, yo, but that's mine. Damn. You were going to spend that on a woman. Ta-da. Ta-da. Y'all just changing out here. Got me. I was like, but that's mine, though.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Not no more. No, it was. Exact words. Not no more. No, it was. Exact words. Not no more. Damn. She took that. I went and sat my ass down. I don't know if I would feel comfortable. Oh, like you always do when you get robbed.
Starting point is 00:23:12 No. Right? Oh. I don't know if I would feel comfortable with my girl going to buy shoes with stacks of ones. I think it gives off the wrong impression. I don't care about it. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:23:21 Who cares? I was with a friend of mine years ago and she went and bought a brand new iphone because she had lost her phone it was like 1100 and she paid for it in once and the att custom the rep was like oh my god i gotta count it like i have to count it over dang that's where she worked at they took that money i know no question they could have thought whatever i want to come see you though later on you know i'm. I want to come see you though later on. You know what I'm saying? I want to come see you later on.
Starting point is 00:23:49 But yeah. That's where I'm a little weird in the brand. I'm going to jump in real quick. Because they be looking, the chicks that you get the singles for that you give them to, they be looking like superstars in the nighttime when you give it to them, right? That's why I like to be there with them in the morning when they head over to the bank or just wherever they're going. Hey, go pull out your nasty ass purse. That purse is your little singles purse that you bring in there?
Starting point is 00:24:14 It is disgusting. It's not that bag. You should be arrested. You're talking about the laundry bag that they be using? They be looking so mad. Yeah, disgusting in the bank at 9 a.m. They're parked outside waiting for the bank to open. Yeah, take all that judgment.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I just want to be this shit. With your sweatpants on. Yeah, oh my God. You fucking heathen. Anyway. Nah, that was it though. But then, you know, Saturday,
Starting point is 00:24:37 my daughter and Lex, they had the play date. Aw. So we did the daddy thing. Oh, old nigga vibes. Nice. Got our kids together for a little play date. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:24:47 I mean, it was at first. I mean, theoretically, it was a great idea. As you age, you want to do cool shit like that. You got a kid, I got a kid. Let's get them together, right? Right. So Ice brings his kid over. I love her.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Oh, my God. Clap it up for Ice's daughter. She's amazing. But I worry about that stuff because, like, my kid don't know nothing about, like, I ain't about, like, just chilling out. He don't know about sharing and, like, talking to kids and stuff like that, you know? So I was happy Ice's daughter came over, but that little, she's got a little handsy. She's a little rough with my baby.
Starting point is 00:25:32 She was in front of me too. I'm like, listen, why don't you keep your fucking hands to yourself? But that was cool. Other than that, we had a nice, nice time. And that was beautiful. Other than that, we had a nice, nice time. And that was beautiful. Aw. That's all I got. I saved my life on Sunday morning.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Thank God. My man. Yeah, I appreciate that. Anytime, brother. I paid $100 a month for this fucking NFL Sunday ticket through DirecTV. Couldn't log in. Couldn't log in. One phone call.
Starting point is 00:26:02 One phone call. I saved the day. I can watch whatever I want to now Whenever I want to now Everything I'll go you guys Let me take Hold on
Starting point is 00:26:11 Damn I got Five ten minutes later I got DirecTV too That ain't got nothing to do with DirecTV I know Cancel that It got something to do with IceTV And I ain't get the invite
Starting point is 00:26:18 IceTV is official Yeah I ain't get the invite You can ask him that off Yeah Like what is this guy doing, man? Let me just make it short. All right, where are we starting here?
Starting point is 00:26:30 Oh, my weekend. I've been out. Surprise. Check this out. Fam, you're starting to turn into a little socialite. Give it to me. You're a socialite. Give it to me, baby.
Starting point is 00:26:40 I was waiting to see you at the Met. Oh, my God. Hey, y'all have a nice turtleneck. Oh, look how they got him. They got him. Look how they got him. Look at me and Man you at the Met. Oh, my God. And y'all have a nice turtleneck. Oh, look how they got him. They got him. Look how they got him. All these teeth. Look at me and Mano with the teeth.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Matching teeth. Come on, man. Don't do that. Listen, I have been out every day and every night. For the last month and a half. And it's not going to stop. Turn my fucking gun shut up. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Oh, look at this pic right here. Oh, how did they trap me in there? Got trapped into all of these people were here, were present in New York, or, yeah, were present in New York to see sniper errors in effect. I think we were having a conversation about that in this picture I was just over here and listening I'm not I'm not a part of that every party I see Dave Eason I tell him to get out I'm just telling y'all he's coming for your come on dog yeah yo come on like nigga, nigga. He the new you? Go.
Starting point is 00:27:45 No. All right, get your shit off. No, I'm not. You stepping on mine, so get your shit off. Let me hear it. That's what I'm doing. Is he the new me? I haven't been six, seven. The fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:27:54 This nigga be in the clubs gorgeous. Leave. Fucking walked into 4040, have my eye on, well, have my eye on a good vibe. It was a good vibe in there. A nice piece of salmon. All the vibes were attracted to Dave East. Nigga, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:11 But Dave East was in there mad tall with like some athlete friends. He was day height. I'm short as hell in the seat. And on my smoke break, I beelined right to him. Yo, why don't you go the fuck home? So here he was again. It was good to see him red cafe is always great to see we had a good talk caught up it was a good vibe here this night i've been out this was 20 years since fab's debut album round of applause again
Starting point is 00:28:38 and being there really really i mean you know about these things because you was there right but being there sure put a lot into perspective for me. I was feeling mushy. I might even drop the little thug tear. This was a surprise party for Fab. Now, when you say that, you never think the person is going to be surprised. Fab is pretty bright, tight with everybody. Somebody had to tell this guy.
Starting point is 00:29:06 I'm sure someone slipped up and said, hey, what time is the thing? I don't think so. That's not what happened. No? I don't think he knew. So this was a surprise party, and every time we thought he was coming in so we could say surprise, he didn't come in. It was literally us playing freeze tag but being frozen for like 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:29:25 And then Ari Melba tapped me and he said, hey, correct me if I'm wrong. This is the most obedient I've ever seen a hip hop crowd. Look at everyone just standing still with 30 minutes straight. So here's the back story here. To confab and to coming to his surprise party, I guess Fendi and his people told him that he had a walkthrough to do somewhere. And if he just did a few songs, he can get a bag and get the fuck out of there. But when he got there, they said, told him that it wasn't no bag. And they'll wire it to him on Monday.
Starting point is 00:29:58 You can't play with no dude that been in the game 20 years like that. So Fab pulled up, pulled off. no dude that been in the game 20 years like that so fab pulled up pulled off pulled up screamed on somebody blacked out over here threatened somebody i don't know i'm making shit up now but it took a long time to come in so he was genuinely surprised when he came in so you walk in and you literally see and this is me so i can only imagine how he fell you walk in and you see 20 years of people that were there associates for your whole journey that's i mean it's so maybe associates but i didn't even see associates i'm just saying at the bare friends at the bare minimum friends that played a part in you when you was in Brooklyn looking for a single before you knew
Starting point is 00:30:47 Clue. Friends when you got over to Queens and you met Clue. Look, G Herbo, like Fab's tree, Fab's family tree in this shit. We don't get into it really, but it's kind of long. Fucking when Maino came home, like it was a lot going on in there. And I knew that because I walked in and I went straight to a corner. Y'all know I go straight to a corner everywhere I go. As soon as I got to a corner,
Starting point is 00:31:10 I heard a couple of voices say, Hey Joe dog, it's us. You ain't got to do that. You ain't got to do that shit you normally do. I said, Oh, I feel,
Starting point is 00:31:18 Oh, I'm at home. People know me. Yeah, man. Come over and fucking social. All right. That's all it took you got me you got me i will come and socialize then i see fucking shack in there not your kill on the
Starting point is 00:31:33 hill uh but i just seen everybody there and for me to be there in a turtleneck and a blazer i'm really i am going to take this time and just go back down memory lane because so many people there was like joe to see you like this i am so proud i could not be prouder now people say that all the time but for people that was there they're there like i was telling chat like i remember my very first performance i was surprised that people was even asking me to perform some way i didn't have songs i was doing freestyles and me and worm was my hype man and we looked at each other the whole time in this queen's club and when i got off stage shack was like and shack was running with fab fab is on Freestyles. And me and Wyrm was my hype man. And we looked at each other the whole time in this Queens club. And when I got off stage, Shaq was like, and Shaq was running with Fab. Fab is on, popping, shows, getting lit.
Starting point is 00:32:11 And he come to me and he said, hey, Joe, when you perform, you should face the crowd. And I said, oh, shit. What a great idea. I ain't even seen them niggas. I just got into my own. He said, you should just try it. But just people that was there for stuff like that. So then he get to talking.
Starting point is 00:32:29 And all these other people get to talking. Y'all remember this Nick Funny Jersey nigga sitting Indian style just trying to figure it out. And to see people that was trying to figure it out, figure it out, and get here. Where it's 20 years of everybody looking great doing great smelling great that was emotional for me it was i had a really good time i was glad i went i was glad i was invited happy to see everybody there and i couldn't be happier for fab because look at this guy he posted look at him he posted a comment um a caption with one of the pictures i guess he took it down but it had me crying because he was like the face you make when they don't even know I was about to get this party shot up.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Yeah, he said it. I'll shoot this whole shit up. I'll be right back. I don't know what was about to happen. Thank God this was really a surprise for him. Because y'all was about to be surprised. Someone should have put a fake deposit and shit. Yeah, or Fendi or one of them should have said, yeah, yeah, we got the money.
Starting point is 00:33:25 They sent it to my account instead of your account. You know what I'm saying? But as I'm watching him even, right? Just in watching him. When Fab came out, they said he didn't have personality. I remember that. Yeah, because it was a long time. It might have been the first eight, nine years of his career.
Starting point is 00:33:42 A lot of people. Yeah, before. Until Twitter. Yeah, they said he didn't have personality. He didn't want to do too many interviews. They just said a lot of shit. And slowly, he didn't want to tour. He didn't want to do shows.
Starting point is 00:33:58 And slowly but surely, every few years in his career, he knocked out something that maybe was a flaw or a shortcoming. He started to become great at interviews. Twitter came, Instagram came. Niggas were like, oh, Fab's funny. No, he's been funny. We just didn't know he was funny. He never let y'all see he was funny.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He only gave you the music. That's it. You never got anything else. the music that's it you never got anything else so to see that to see all the people there that he helps to mentor and influence like everybody there from trey to tiana to all these niggas kept saying i have to be here because anytime i call fab he shows up unlike these industry ass niggas and then i got to thinking shit that's the same with me anytime i ask for a verse you do the verse i ain't pay wasn't no budget could have been down in my career could have not been on a label hey here's a posse cut hey can you
Starting point is 00:34:52 rap on a posse cut like he just did it i don't think fab is appreciated the way that he should be for helping usher in some of these niggas that y'all love. And they won't say his name because it might not be trendy to say it. But I know the people that's behind the scenes influencing and being really a positive force in some of these new acts' life, and he's one of them. So to see it, again, round of applause. I could not be prouder of this brother,
Starting point is 00:35:19 of this gentleman. It's earned. In 20 years, it's a chunk, bro. It's a lot of niggas that's not all you get to be here for 20 years that's all that's all he kept saying when we came in nobody no rapper thinks about being around for 20 years right it was only ll right it's like whoa that's the gold longevity he's been around in 01 02 we was just looking to get a good three or four years, get a good two albums, stretch, take the money,
Starting point is 00:35:48 maybe put it back in the street or something else. 20 years to still be here? Man, listen, man. That's real. Still look nice. Still have all your guys. Come on, man. Come on.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Because, again, this is not something you've lost over. A lot of your favorites ain't going to get a 20-year. Facts. Sorry. Facts. Ten. Yeah. Ten is a lot.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Ten is a lot. Drake said it. Let's see who's going to be around a decade from now. Yeah. Ten years. That's real. Yeah, so I just wanted to start with some appreciation for Fab because as somebody who don't get out very much,
Starting point is 00:36:23 and shout out to Em for making sure I was there. Uh, that was an event. That was an event that I was really happy. I left the house for shout out to everybody that was there. That's dope. Well-deserved. Well-deserved.
Starting point is 00:36:33 And then Sunday, I wasn't done. Wait, we're at a party at the night. Wait, wait. So free. Those you do a little brunch.
Starting point is 00:36:42 No, I'm going right. So free. Those men, why is he Playing with me That's how you know It's mixy time You outside
Starting point is 00:36:48 Why not But why not See in New York This is the time June, July, and August I mean cute It's too hot Too hot
Starting point is 00:36:54 But in New York September feel good Yeah yeah September, October Yeah oh my god September, October Is the go out Halloween all that
Starting point is 00:37:03 September is making up For all the months that was trash. That was the summer we was all waiting for. And that was horrible. It was ass. Y'all don't want to say it because I know. Keep the morale high. But that wasn't it. I ain't even go to Great Adventure.
Starting point is 00:37:17 It's when you know it and it ain't lit. We ain't go to Great Adventure. That's when chicks start getting a burgundy on their toes in the fall. Here comes the feet, man. The feet analysis. This nigga Ish will not tell us his girl's pedicure. Nigga telling us what the streets
Starting point is 00:37:33 ladies is getting. She gets that. I bet she do. I don't do that, though. You make sure of that. What I do. We pick the colors around here. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying. You be walking over to that wall With like 9,000 nail polishes This is the one And picking them out
Starting point is 00:37:48 If I'm there yeah If not Do you go It's a phone call Oh shit we didn't even tell y'all Ice girl made a meal prep for him Huh I think that is some real loser shit
Starting point is 00:38:01 That should be highlighted I think that's so much loser Hey Joe stop projecting Stop projecting How You would love to have some meal prep In the crib Nah that is some real loser shit that should be highlighted. I think that's so much loser shit. Stop projecting. Stop projecting. How? You would love to have some meal prep in the crib.
Starting point is 00:38:09 No. You would. You would. Yeah, you would. Are you a meal prepper too? It has happened. But she don't do it. You don't wake up and be like,
Starting point is 00:38:17 but babe. No, no, I didn't wake up and do anything. Is this salami pastrami prepared? Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. See, she's so ill. Babe, yo, when you get home, I got this right here. It's already set for you.
Starting point is 00:38:29 You're done. Don't worry about nothing. But you done what? No, you're done. You just press the button? Yeah. You just press a button? Just push the button.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Warm it up. You good to go. So you don't ask for a meal prep? I didn't ask for anything. You sure? I'm positive. All right. I'm going to get around your girl and ask.
Starting point is 00:38:42 That's fly. That's fly. It's fly if he didn't ask for it. I didn't ask for anything. If you ask for a meal prep, you will never hear the end of it from me. But if he asked for it, that's even fly. You got a dope-ass girl. You ain't got to do that.
Starting point is 00:38:51 It's fly if he asked for it. I'm shutting up, because I be saying shit over here, and then I get attacked. What'd I say last week? Wait. What'd you say? You say some dumb shit every week. It's fine. What'd you say?
Starting point is 00:39:00 I said something last week, and they tore my ass up. Oh, I was like, people that leave their car, turn their car off when they get gas are losers. You said that? What did you say? I tweeted that. Oh, you tweeted that. Wait, wait. People turn their car off?
Starting point is 00:39:15 I turn their car off. I'm a loser. I'm never turning the car off. Then why would I cut the car off? I'm not cutting the car off. To avoid blowing up? I don't know. You guys are from Jersey. You don't pump gas. No. So why am I going to turn the car off? If I turn the car off. To avoid blowing up? I don't know. You guys are from Jersey.
Starting point is 00:39:25 You don't pump gas. No. So why am I going to turn the car off? If I turn the car off, I can't zoom off on this nigga. So I'm going to turn the car off and just sit there like a dumbass? And wait for him to start banging on the end of my car. Hey, you done, dog? Hey, you done?
Starting point is 00:39:39 Get the shit out of here. No, I keep it on so when it look like it's done, I watch the numbers too as they go. So I can stick my head Out the window Hey Papi Papi it's good Before he even say
Starting point is 00:39:52 Yeah dog I'm at the light already Alright anyway Come on What do y'all want to start 50 minutes in I'll start with an update That is
Starting point is 00:40:02 Cause y'all was saying Some things last part That just sounded Unbelievable to me. So I went and did some hood research. Some hood. And I put my hood investigative skills to the test. And I'm back with my findings and my results.
Starting point is 00:40:17 What do you got for us? It is official. They are 100% putting fentanyl on wheat. I don't have to understand the mechanics of it or the why exactly, but that's official. I have friends, I have associates that work in medical fields and people are coming in and out of there.
Starting point is 00:40:36 We're having seizures from this fentanyl laced weed and they're passing away. I mean, the why is financial. Fam, again, everybody, I said this last time, everybody don't have money
Starting point is 00:40:51 to get the Zaza. So you get some bullshit, you put the fentanyl in it, it makes your shit more potent, right? And you paid nothing for it. Fentanyl's cheap. And it's addictive.
Starting point is 00:41:02 More addictive. So you're going to get a better return on your bread. But we're going to risk death to our customers and clientele. Joe, we've been selling heroin and crack
Starting point is 00:41:10 since we was kids. They don't give a fuck about death. You get what I'm saying? Like, again. Well, that's why I said this conversation and so many ways
Starting point is 00:41:17 we can have it, right? The weed dealers-ish, the ones that I know when you talk to them, they can tell you the difference between the weed charges and the heroin charges
Starting point is 00:41:24 and the gun charges and the coke charges. And we're going to stay in our weed. We're going to stay in our weed. That's why they stay in weed. So it blows me away. And again, I'm past not understanding because it's happening. But damn, y'all going to risk weed smokers' lives from fentanyl? Cool, I don't have to answer that because my very next question is,
Starting point is 00:41:46 where the fuck niggas getting fentanyl? It's a very good question. Where is fentanyl coming from? That was my... I brought this up on the last pod. Ice hinted to it last time. I said, no, we need to find out. No, no, you can trace it where it's coming from. It's coming from Asia, right?
Starting point is 00:41:58 It's coming from China. It's coming from Asia, yeah. Which is why I said, yo. We under attack. We are under attack. He touched on it. But I was not trying to go there. It is why I said, yo. We under attack. We are under attack. He touched on it. But I was not trying to go there. It's a direct line, bro.
Starting point is 00:42:10 And that's why I said, no, it's not the inner cities that's under attack. Yeah, because. It's America. Because Lil Hefrico on the corner selling his shit. He don't have access to fentanyl. He don't. He don't. He don't.
Starting point is 00:42:29 It's above him. It's above the nigga that's on the corner somewhere you can't walk in the store and get this shit this shit the tiniest dose the tiniest dose is deadly when they ever let us niggas have something that the tiniest dose was deadly just accessible besides guns besides when they want us to kill ourselves stop on the map ding ding ding again i'm just telling people so they can protect themselves again and we have a platform that millions of motherfuckers listen to so it is definitely a responsible thing what i'm saying is um that's the pipeline it's all about bread though it's all about bread and this is why they should legalize drugs all of them in my opinion my opinion. It's a Patreon conversation. Wait, why?
Starting point is 00:43:06 I disagree. Regulation. Regulation. I disagree. Regulation. Wait, what? But what's going to happen, though, if you do that, is the same thing that's happening with weed.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Weed is damn near legal everywhere. Right. And a lot of people that I know will say, I'm not smoking that. That ain't good shit. That's true. Depending on where you're at. I'm going to get my weed from here. It depends on the drug. Because I bought plenty't good shit. That's true. Depending on where you're at.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I'm going to get my weed from here. It depends on the drug. Because I bought plenty of good weed in Colorado and California and shit from- But I'm saying what a lot of people are- And then you got your conspiracy theorists. I'm not smoking shit that the government- You have those as well. I don't know what they're putting in that either.
Starting point is 00:43:40 You can't leave them. Just like I don't know what's putting in here. You got to be really careful with your with your drug usage period uh i would express to the the weed smokers out there to be careful with them 150 200 ounces yeah i know you get it from the low i know it's it's gotten you where you needed to be but it's dangerous now out there yeah Yeah, scary shit. Bruh, again. Please, please, please be careful. I can 100% confirm for you now, people are dying off of fentanyl-laced weed,
Starting point is 00:44:11 and they may not be celebrities, so we might not care. I wonder if there's a way to visually tell if they're putting fentanyl. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you buy a bag of weed. It's so small.
Starting point is 00:44:20 It's powdery. Right, right. Once again, you chop it up. It looks like the crystals that are already on the weed. Yeah, you don't know. Yeah, that's scary shit. And, right. Once again, you chop it up. It looks like the crystals that are already on the weed. Yeah, you don't know. Yeah, that's scary shit. And a lethal, did you see how much it takes?
Starting point is 00:44:29 Nothing. For a lethal dose? I didn't know that. That was informative to me. That small, small, like you know how they had it sitting next to a penny. And it was a couple specks. I didn't know that. I definitely didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Please be careful. That is my memo to you out there. Word. Recreationally, however you're using it, please, please be careful. Legalize drugs. We getting back into that one. I'm going to tear his ass up. He's crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:55 I'm going to tear his ass up. You know what it sounds like to me? It sounds like they announced in Houston a few weeks ago, hey, we're doing away with all the gun law. If you're of age you can just buy a gun we don't care about your record your mental health we don't care about nothing get a gun and you need a license permit you're lying yes well you know oregon oregon texas Texas Texas Texas said that you and I thought to myself oh they really don't give a fuck they don't give a fuck they don't give a fuck they don't give a fun they
Starting point is 00:45:25 won't kill you niggas in their heart hey y'all gonna listen to them tell me that now you 21 year olds gonna go hey texas already was texas yeah right so what are you inviting when you do that so you say legalize everything first of all that's not the way the american dream works like they sell you that but they ain't letting everybody just capitalize and profit off some shit without them regulating it and having full control over and we're seeing that in in play now that ain't gonna happen i don't think and another part of that is legalize everything doesn't work because there's there's two amer. Like what's legal for this side of America, it's not going to work the same way for everybody else.
Starting point is 00:46:11 So just legalize it all. Legalize it all means fentanyls in play. Yeah. So that's why I guess I don't understand your take on coming off this topic. That's all. Because if you go buy weed, same way if you go buy cigarettes or liquor from a liquor store or whatever, you're not going to get moonshine that'll turn you blind. It's been regulated.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I totally disagree with what you're saying. I'm going to disagree again. Okay. People buy regulations. Yeah, money talks. Yeah. Motherfuckers be losing their hair. Because something's regulated.
Starting point is 00:46:46 That doesn't necessarily bring me the safety that I guess you're saying. It brings me more safety than just getting the shit from wherever. I'm not disagreeing with that piece. What I'm saying is this. Bruh, you can't legalize crack cocaine. You can't. You ever seen somebody, And we all have family members I'm sure that
Starting point is 00:47:06 Or associates Whatever the case may be That has been addicted To crack cocaine Absolutely Your productivity stops It's not heroin It's not powder cocaine
Starting point is 00:47:16 Powder cocaine You could live a life Niggas be on cocaine I know plenty of people do There you go Heroin, same thing You could live You got enough money
Starting point is 00:47:23 You could live I don't know You're educating me. I'm listening. No, I'm just saying. It's mad stars that have been on heroin for 10, 20, 30 years and they still are living and functioning, right? Crack cocaine, your productivity stops.
Starting point is 00:47:36 You have to get high so much that it stops. You've never seen a functioning crack addict long term. It's not going to happen. So when you legalize crack that's when the christmas trees start getting stolen from under the tree on christmas eve christmas gifts you know i'm saying like shit like that you can't as you can't function you got to get high too much okay and once it got you it got you right so certain drugs you can't legalize them you can't
Starting point is 00:47:59 just say you'll legalize all the shit right here because again certain levels of society stops and not just that the the illegal piece keeps certain people away from the drug like a lot of people won't try it because it's illegal i don't want to break the law i'm not doing that i'm not crossing over that road but when you legalize it now it says okay you're letting the inmates run the asylum it's free if every drug yeah man that's a scary That's a scary conversation So The difference between Powder cocaine And crack cocaine Is what The method
Starting point is 00:48:29 A lot It's a lot The method No No it's a lot And the ingredient Used in that method Yes
Starting point is 00:48:34 Alright You could be on Powder cocaine You could get You could get high Right Correct It's not
Starting point is 00:48:41 One it's not as addictive So the chemicals Put into it make it more addictive okay then i'm stuck right there hold on right there so if they're legalizing cocaine which is the base for both what you then do it's no different than saying i take a cigarette and i add something to the cigarette that now fucks you up. The tobacco is legal. No. My take on that is none of that matters if you now insert the illegal shit. Like, I see where y'all are going. Cool.
Starting point is 00:49:11 You're right. The cigarette is legal until I put, until I put, dip it. Until I put some angel dust in it. Hey, the weed, hey, we're going to legalize it. We all celebrate it. And now there's a new issue. Not even six months later. So, why are we talking about the base the base could be legal
Starting point is 00:49:26 if we're gonna step on it with some deadly illegal shit that who knows where it's coming from that's true then we have a problem on our hands yeah alcohol is legal until a nigga put some shit in it that makes it deadly at that point so no that's i agree with you so to say no don't legalize all drugs i'm not i don't have i don't really have a side in that i i get both sides of the argument but for your point to say don't legalize all drugs because now you're legalizing crack cocaine no i'm really not legalizing crack cocaine i'm legalizing cocaine what you do with it changes everything but we got shit that's legal now that you can do something to but when you legalize it it changes the level of accessibility.
Starting point is 00:50:06 I'm with Ish. Hey, perfect example. Breaking Bad comes out. Teaches America how to make crystal meth. All that shit is in Walgreens. Know what they did in Walgreens? Put it behind the counter. Yep.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Yeah, whatchamacallit. Niggas started coming in there, stealing the Sudafed, stealing the Advil, Sinus, and whatever that. They were stealing all that shit. You can't buy it now. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Because, and this is how it goes. Because now when I go buy my Advil, Cold, and Sinus, they ask for my ID. Correct.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And I give them my ID, but with an attitude. And I say, hey, why? Well, because people are coming in here buying it all. They even hiring the people that it's prescribed to to do what, like. I didn't know it came from Breaking Bad. I didn't know they did. It was big before Breaking Bad. It was big.
Starting point is 00:50:57 It was big, but when you throw it on television like that, you make regular people try to fuck with it. Breaking Bad is what made Walgreens and CVS change the law. Gotcha. Yes. That is nothing else besides Breaking Bad. It showed the simplicity of making it. What else did it, Parks? I grew up in upstate New York.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Meth Valley was in Pennsylvania, northern Pennsylvania, right below me. We couldn't get a lot of that shit way before Breaking Bad. Parks, I'm talking about Walgreens and CVS is nationwide. I don't give a fuck what happened there. That's maybe Meftown. The country stopped
Starting point is 00:51:30 doing something is what I'm saying. Because of Breaking Bad. That was new. I used to be able to go the Sudafed used to come and then we had to start signing for the one
Starting point is 00:51:39 that got the Sudafed dream in it. And I'm like, why? And they explained that people use it to make Crystal Meth. Take it a step further. I remember going, you know, we used to be party cats.
Starting point is 00:51:48 You go in the city and I wore contacts. So I would have eye drops. Right. Dog. You ain't got Lasix? Come on, man. You poor as hell. No, I'm broke.
Starting point is 00:51:58 But no, dog, they would make you take your eye drops and say, put them in your eye. Or you can't bring them in. And you have to go like this and drop them in your eye. And I'm like, what the fuck? They like, yo, they was bringing the shit in the club through the eye dropper thing. Yeah, the eye dropper. Through the Visine bottles. I'm like, word?
Starting point is 00:52:15 All of that shit adds to, when you start legalizing drugs, bro, that's a really, really slippery slope on a societal level. I would like to watch to see how things play out in Oregon because they just legalize everything. Legalize everything. Every drug.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Every drug. Every drug. The Combative Methamphetamine Epidemic Act of 2005 is what stopped over-the-counter sales
Starting point is 00:52:38 of Sudafedrin. Breaking Bad didn't come out until 2008. Read it again. The Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act of 2005 was part of come out until 2008. Read it again. The Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act of 2005 was part of the Patriot Act
Starting point is 00:52:50 signed by President Bush in 2005, March of 2005, or 2006 it became enacted, I guess. Part of the Patriot Act, you said? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:57 That would make sense. Breaking Bad came out in 2008. So it wasn't Breaking Bad. It wasn't Breaking Bad. Doesn't sound like it was Breaking Bad. Well, let me add to that and say, there were quite a few CVSs
Starting point is 00:53:07 that didn't give a fuck about that bill. And I could get my Sudafed and my Advil and everything right from the regular aisle with the rest of the stuff. Yeah, I can believe that. Maybe it was twofold. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:53:18 But the meth epidemic was a big thing. Breaking Bad was kind of a result of it. Or showed the simplicity of how it's made. It's all intertwined. You know what I'm saying? And that's my thing with the accessibility. When you start showing Joe Schmo that never thought about using no drugs, that never even entertained it because they look at the illegal side of it and that's taboo for them. When you now say, yo, it's legal, what stops the 18-year-old from trying it? Because it's legal now. I'm not breaking the law anymore.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Well, it should be. I think we're in a worse time than the... I mean, this might be a hot take. Shit is way scarier now than it feel like the 80s was. Indeed. Because again, now when you start giving people leeway to hang themselves, a lot of motherfuckers gonna hang themselves.
Starting point is 00:54:02 They're gonna hang themselves. When you start saying, yo, this is bad. It's taboo, it's taboo, it's taboo. It's a number of motherfuckers gonna hang themselves they're gonna hang themselves when you start saying yo this is bad it's taboo it's taboo it's taboo it's a number of people that are not gonna fuck with it they'll leave it alone
Starting point is 00:54:11 there are some that are gonna go fuck with it regardless but there's still a number of people that say we're not gonna fuck with this because it's illegal and the thing about that
Starting point is 00:54:20 is law and court cases and charges is money all of that all of it is money right so when somebody dies off of the overdose and they say we're going after the dealer uh maybe in mac miller's case they locked up like four people but that was like the anomaly that was the exception that wasn't the rule that's not the rule. Like, they'd say, Michael Williams passed, rest in peace. Hey, we're going after the dealer.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Alright, you find the guy that he got it from. That don't fix it. At all. That does absolutely... Where you get it from? When you chop off one arm, a motherfucker grows another arm back. True. At that point, at that level, you're not even chopping off an arm. You're chopping off a finger. Not even.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Just please be careful out there. I felt like it was our responsibility to come in here and say, oh, no, this is a fact. Because some of y'all might be just as blown away by this as I was. I'm blown away that that's the extent that dealers are going to out there. To put it on weed, which is a recreational drug. Like heroin, everybody not using heroin, right? The pills. Cocaine, pills, everybody not using that. right? The pills. Cocaine, pills,
Starting point is 00:55:25 everybody not using that. Right. A lot of people smoke weed. A lot of people. Niggas' grandparents, niggas' parents are recreational marijuana smokers. So now when your auntie,
Starting point is 00:55:34 your great aunt, that's an attorney, is out here fucking with weed and could die from the fentanyl-laced weed, it changes the dynamics. So now that leads me to, and again, I got some fun, I promise the dynamics. So now that leads me to, and again,
Starting point is 00:55:45 I got some fun, I promise I have fun topics for us to get to. I promise I do. But you can unpack this a million different ways. That gets me to, well, why is China
Starting point is 00:55:55 and everybody so angry at America? I was watching the Turning Point 911 doc. It's a Patreon content. And it sounds like, no, stop saying that, they're going to get mad. Because we be bodying shit on Patreon. We talk about it doc. It's a Patreon content. And it sounds like, no, stop saying that. They're going to get mad. Because we be bodying shit on Patreon.
Starting point is 00:56:08 But y'all can body shit here. We can body shit here. Listen, the Turning Point 911 doc, rest in peace to anybody and prayers to anybody that lost somebody in that tragic event. But that doc wasn't really about 911. It was about the relationship between America and Afghanistan. It was five episodes of that i was glued to it i was glued because me over here i never paid attention to social studies not so
Starting point is 00:56:34 big on geography them even explaining to me how afghanistan is surrounded by the other places that hate us was deep so i I'm watching this shit. I'm listening to the China shit. Hey, we battling fentanyl. We battling COVID. We battling the booster shot. We battling our psyches. We battling each other overall.
Starting point is 00:56:57 We're battling each other. It is racism. It's all type. We battling each other. It's just a new battle every day. Everybody seems to hate us, America. What the hell did America must have done? And half of America hates half of America.
Starting point is 00:57:08 What America did was try to become the new Roman Empire, pretty much. Like, yo. All right. But they even did that to- You're right, yo. This is a deep, deep level of conversation. You know, you can-
Starting point is 00:57:22 This is- You'll see, it's just scratching his jeans. I don't know if y'all notice it's just scratching his jeans ready to unpack this shit alright we'll get
Starting point is 00:57:32 another picture nah yeah this some other shit this is another level of conversation in this doc they get to after 9-1-1
Starting point is 00:57:41 they get to America's treatment of the people that they felt to be responsible, 70, 80 people, however many people it was. And they were talking about how to avoid certain laws. They listed these people as detainees and not prisoners because prisoners came with some shit they could do. So we needed to strip these people of their rights and we needed the laws to not affect them or bring anything in their favor.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I'm listening to this shit, I'm like, boy, that sounds like... Sounds... Today. That sounds like some things. Bruh, so again, even when you start talking about the PATRIA Act, if we want to alleviate certain rights,
Starting point is 00:58:24 now we got to put it into law under emergency, under pandemic, under fear. Fear is the motive. So fear is the motive. So we're going to violate everybody's laws, all your privacy, all your shit goes away
Starting point is 00:58:39 because we're going to sign this Patriot Act into law to say that yo, these rights have to be stripped so that we can get information before this ever takes place again. You want to take it a step further? Right? You want to take it a step further? No, but yeah, we're here.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Take it back to Pearl Harbor. Take it back to Pearl Harbor. They knew Pearl Harbor was going to happen. They had all the advanced intelligence saying, yo, it's going to get attacked. But economy was down. We're going to let them get attacked. We needed to get into that war.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Yeah. We needed an end. I heard that. All right, let's turn our heads. When we get attacked, the country's going to be behind us 100% jumping in that war. Indeed. Now, fast forward to 9-11. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Yo. We invaded Iraq, fam. Knowing that Iraq had nothing to do with this. But the way to get everybody on board and the way, like you said, we can get right stripped. We can, okay, you know what? Let's turn a blind eye. Oh, they did something to us again. Now we have to act.
Starting point is 00:59:40 They. They. Now we have to act. They said in the doc, we going to get who was they going to get? Saddam Hussein? Bin Laden? They went and got both. They went and got both.
Starting point is 00:59:54 But when it came to Saddam, they was like we need to get him just because he could potentially do something. Think about that. That's crazy. He ain't a good guy. Let's go get him anyway. Why are we over here? He got weapons of mass destruction, and he could hurt us, y'all. Didn't find a one. Didn't find one.
Starting point is 01:00:11 And I don't want them to think we sitting here defending. I'm not defending anybody. Because we not. Because we are not. We are not. We are not. We're just saying what happened. But, man.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Man. Freddie Gibbs. Yo. Give me the somewhere he smoked that he did that he did that he smoked that
Starting point is 01:00:30 nah again yo this shit is deep deep we seeing it right now I don't wanna bring it up cause we not even getting into the people
Starting point is 01:00:36 that profited off of everything the construction companies and the weapons companies that all profited today where we are today right now
Starting point is 01:00:44 and what the thing that's going on right now, well, I don't want to bring it up because they'd be killing me on the pod, right? They pushing us there. But ish, again, let's tie it. Hold on, ish. When it comes to the thing, the shot. Yeah. But ish, let's tie it in, like I said.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Pearl Harbor. I wouldn't go. That was my mom that did that. That wasn't Bush Obama that was that was Mother Dearest Pearl Harbor the attacks
Starting point is 01:01:09 now you look you got advanced information saying hey look something like this could happen you have all you have all these
Starting point is 01:01:16 experts telling you be prepared for this alright let's wham trying to blonde out a little bit oh it's happening hey look everybody
Starting point is 01:01:24 we need y'all to give your rights up let's emergency authorize this let's do this this is the plan this is the this is we've seen this movie a bunch of times
Starting point is 01:01:37 and we choose to ignore it fear fear is what does it if you get everybody afraid then they'll turn to the government and say, yes, whatever you want us to do. And this is the problem with cancel culture. True. When the war comes.
Starting point is 01:01:54 That's true. All the people you need, y'all cancel them. That's a good one. All the people with real opinions, all the people that were totally objective and didn't take a side. Yeah, with some funny thinking, out of the box thinking, something like that. Is that not part of the plan?
Starting point is 01:02:11 Eliminate the opposition. The strong thinkers, the same way they eliminated the strong black dad out the household. Come on now. I think it's all connected. You right. Hey, Trevor Noah,
Starting point is 01:02:20 this podcast is not about music no more. You better look out. Now we're getting somewhere now, damn it. It's all connected. It's all connected, man. Our Freddie Gibbs talk is coming soon. We'll get there. But listen.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Tell us, Trevor Joa. Trevor Joa. That's funny, son. Trevor Joa. He back home. He back on his home game for Parks. Nah, that's real. Yeah, yeah, son. Trevor Joe. He back home. He back home. Home game for Parks. Nah, that's real.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You shooting from home. I shot on the road, too. Never shooting at this home again. You're accustomed to these rims. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, I don't want to continue this because we'll get sad and depressed, but y'all on to something.
Starting point is 01:03:03 We might need Outstanding or something. Yeah, I'm going to find it. I want the militant version of Outstanding. You got some dead press Outstanding? Fab don't have no happy song? No, no, I got some Fab Outstanding right here. Let's do it. Why not? Mic check. Mic check.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check there Mic check, one, two, one, two, we go Bad appreciation, did we steal it out here in Brooklyn, what up? Same shit, different day, just ride through the city Looking pretty as the usual This is what I do Hit the same old thing, got the name on the chain Just to let them know Woo, shoot And they know I'm over here
Starting point is 01:03:47 So they come and find me Right after they lose you For you niggas in the way We can let the guns stay Excuse you At the end of the day We just trying to find a way And I might be your come up
Starting point is 01:04:00 Baby, you can't Why did he do that? Do you hear what he just said? At the end of the day We can find a way and I might be your come up. Nice. Why did he think that was nice? It ain't tricking if you got it. Allegedly.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Starless closed all week, too. Come through. Starless closed. week too. Come through. But they know the cake's real. It was very dumb. Yo, I couldn't even say it. Starless closed. My bank ain't. Ow! Every day.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Every day is my day. Hey! I'ma do it my way. Every day. Yeah. Everything about me. Fab definitely should have played this in verses. I don't know why he didn't play the throw it in the bag remix.
Starting point is 01:04:43 That was a point. Why didn't that come on? Oh, I know why that is. Never mind. Hey, we can't talk about the throw it in the bag remix because it's Fab Appreciation Day. Okay. But boy, damn it. I'm lost, but.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Good, just stay lost. Yeah, I'll be lost. That goes back to me telling, that's like Renegade. That's like R&B Renegade. You gotta explain to me off camera. Because I'm lost like Parks. I'm glad I ain't the only person over there lost. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:05:17 I'll whisper it so they can't hear. Remember when I told Benny the Butcher that if he ever tried that Benny the Butcher shit on the track with me, I'm either killing him or redoing my verse. And when he got that remix back, should've lived with that a little bit. He should've chilled.
Starting point is 01:05:39 He shouldn't have just tossed that one out. Oh, man. And we love Pabst, so we just let it go, but... Smoke? When last I heard that song? It's been a while. It's been a long, long time ago.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Good. And this ain't me saying this. I ain't saying this. This ain't me. No, it's Ice. It's not Ice. It is Ice. It is Ice.
Starting point is 01:06:01 You gotta blame all that shit on Ice. You cannot make me a fab. I think if I speak to Fab today He'll say, yo, I should've I should've redid that Repent Oh So I see Trey Songz in the party
Starting point is 01:06:12 He apologized I'm such a bad small talker, you guys You know what to versus? Right I am the worst Yo, can I tell y'all I don't do small talk So you know when I'm trying to do it.
Starting point is 01:06:25 I'll give you a little, I'll get you. I'll give you a little help. Hey, the Yankees really pulled that one off. Right? That's what you started with? I was standing with Trey Songz. I see him right there having a blast, smelling, having the time of his life. I hit him a little.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Was just talking about you earlier, Trey. Let me tell you what I said. He's engaged. He want to hear what I said. Look him in his eyes. Listen, man. I want to see you in a versus. I think I got the perfect opponent for you.
Starting point is 01:07:01 I looked him dead in his eyes with a turtleneck and a blazer on. And I said, now Tiana's dead. Davey's dead in his eyes with a turtleneck and a blazer on. And I said, now Tiana's there, Davey's there, Fab's there, this whole picture's there. And I said, they all listening to me. Glued to my every word. This is why I don't get invited to these things.
Starting point is 01:07:15 This is why I don't get invited. I know why I wasn't at the Met Gala. I know why. I said, listen to this. A Morion. What happened? Everybody laughed at you. They was about to throw you on the wall.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Apparently, I'm a big Omarion fan. Yo, Trey is such a sweetheart. Look me in my eyes. I should know. And was like, yeah. And it was faint laughter in the background. And I think I might have knocked my drink out of my hand at that point. As he turned around and put it back to you.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Yeah, I found a nigga kick me. Kick, kick, kick, kick. And then they just talked about something else. They act like, I ain't there. I ain't even say nothing. Yo. Yo, scream, man. Yo, why scream, man?
Starting point is 01:08:04 Always feel me. I hate that nigga yo scream man they just kept talking about like the weather yeah I was in my head
Starting point is 01:08:12 like that nigga told the lightning to come hit your dumb ass yo Trey act like I didn't say a word
Starting point is 01:08:19 he act like I said like me or something like he was offended he was offended. He was offended, but he looked like, you know, you my man. Yeah, yeah. We having a good time tonight.
Starting point is 01:08:31 We having a great day. I got a great evening. I'm not going to let you deter my mood. But don't say that again. Nowhere. And it wasn't just Trey. It was a room of celebs. They all.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Fuck up, Joe. They almost asked me to leave. And I knew something was wrong because all the people I took pictures with didn't send them to me. It's like they didn't even want me to be present after that. I hit them the next boy. Yo, let me get that pic.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Nah, nigga, you said a Marriott versus Trey Songz should be a matchup. Yo, I don't think it's as funny as y'all say you said a Marriott versus Trey Songz. Should be a matchup. Yo, I don't think it's as funny as y'all say, but I'm going to take Trey. I should have said that to Trey. I should have said that to Trey. So who's the opponent? I was about to say, so now who's the opponent? I don't know, but.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Not that one. He don't have one, really. See, what you're supposed to do in that moment is say, Trey, you know, you got to face Chris. supposed to do in that moment is say trey you know you gotta you gotta face chris like you gotta say you gotta throw out somebody who is like like that so you gotta lie yeah you gotta appease and pacify if trey songs battle chris we would all watch it don't do that no we're gonna watch it and trey songs has 20 songs to go against chris he does he does now i'm not picking trey songs to win that no i'm not picking trey so i'm not picking trey songs to go against Chris. He does. He does. Now, I'm not picking Trey Songz to win that. No.
Starting point is 01:09:46 I'm not picking Trey Songz. Trey Songz is not picking Trey Songz to win that. But Trey Songz ain't getting embarrassed against Chris Brown. I'll say that. He won't get embarrassed. He got 20 joints. And Chris. Anyway, listen.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Anyway, go ahead. I'm not talking to him no more about it. Whoever he do, he just do it. I'm not going to ask him about it. I'm not asking anything that anyone famous is in. He's in a fucked up situation. That's what I told him. Because there's nobody for you to battle in your group.
Starting point is 01:10:11 On his level, right? Not his generation. You got to go above my level or beneath me. Or find someone from like a different generation or someone. It's not a. It was only him and Chris that was in that. Mario, not enough. Not enough.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Bobby Valentino, not enough. Not enough. Jay Holiday, not that. Mario, not enough. Not enough. Bobby Valentino, not enough. Jay Holiday, not enough. Lloyd, not enough. All of the R&B dudes in that, it's just not. What about Chicks? Do you want to see that? Maybe. I don't think he does.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Nah. I don't think he does. One is coming. No, no, no, no. We don't want to see that. I think a male versus female one is coming. I wouldn't be mad at it. Everybody keeps saying Busta and Missy.
Starting point is 01:10:47 It just needs to be Busta and Missy. I disagree. I disagree, too. But they've been saying that for a minute. I big time disagree. Why do y'all disagree with that? Because Busta, first of all, has been around longer. Busta is 91.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Missy is 96. I don't see them similar other than the videos. Right. And the videos are not what the verses is on. Hits though. Now if they did a video verses that would actually be an interesting little spin.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I would be cool with that. That would be an interesting spin. That's why everybody keep listing them. Missy got hits. Missy got R&B records in there. She pinned for this.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Produced records. It's totally different. They don't match up. She has hits bro. Busta has hits. Busta has hits. They're two different type of...
Starting point is 01:11:23 Whooped on. No I just don't like the match up. You just don't like it? I just don't like the match up. I know but you can't She has hits, bro. Busta has hits. So you're saying Busta would get whooped on? No, I just don't like the matchup. You just don't like it? I just don't like the matchup. I know, but you can't figure out a matchup for Busta or Missy. What should have happened was Busta Luda. I would have took that and saved Nelly for Ja Rule. But they did what they did.
Starting point is 01:11:38 That makes more sense. Busta for Luda. As I'm watching Busta Rhymes perform at the VMAs, and we'll get into this versus Fat Joe versus Ja Rule that's happening tonight. Y'all are hearing this today, so we don't know what happened. We don't know. But we can guess.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Damn, what was I just talking about? Busta Rhymes VMA. Oh, as I'm watching Busta Rhymes at the VMAs, I thought to myself, damn, it would only have to be Missy. Anybody else is getting their head clobbered. Anybody else shouldn't have to stand in front of, put your hands where my eyes can see, past the Kavarsia fucking scenario. Touch it.
Starting point is 01:12:21 I want to see a Busta Rhymes and Spliffstar friendship biopic. Those guys have been the best friends for like 25 years. I don't think we've ever seen them like it. And even if they ain't the best friends, they still act like it. They look like it. And Spliff knows. Like, when you listen, Busta's only giving you a quarter of a bar. Every bar.
Starting point is 01:12:43 And he's right there with it. If it wasn't Fab Day, it was Busta Rhymes Appreciation Day a bar. Every bar. And he's right there with it. If it wasn't Fab Day, it was Busta Rhymes Appreciation Day for me. No doubt. Because watching that performance at the VMAs, you'd have to be a vocalist to understand this. To be Busta Rhymes is age. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Overweight. Still had that level of performance. Dog! I was actually about to get busted for profits, so he actually slimmed down a little bit. Yeah, he's looking smaller, Ish. I'm talking about your breath control and all of that. That shit is hard, dog.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Yeah, but you came right out with it. But wait, it's funny. Ish said it, though. Y'all niggas, you said it. Ish said he overrated. That nigga's your weight. That nigga's not my weight. That nigga's bigger than me.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Nah, you busted rhymes too no but to your point bigger older aged experienced and i know he smoked a lot of shit he smoked buster rhymes has smoked for him to be able to perform that way and have that vocal control i was in awe i was in awe for him and and Spliff to still be the best rapper hype man combo that we have in hip hop for all of these years. Yeah, man. And then just to hear Busta on Scenario when he threw it. As I combined from the two from now.
Starting point is 01:13:56 I didn't think he was going to go there. He love it. He love it. Bring it back. Come rewind. Just listening to the evolution of his style and how it changed and how he can go from that to the Janet Jackson record. Like,
Starting point is 01:14:06 yo, people would have to face these records, man. Busta Rhymes gets a bad rep. In the internet. On the internet. On Twitter. They don't even acknowledge him.
Starting point is 01:14:15 They don't even speak of him. They don't even say his name. They 25 years old. They don't know. A lot of people only knew Busta, like, these younger,
Starting point is 01:14:25 don't know Busta Rhymes from features and shit like that. Prior to the Chris Brown, look at me now record. That's all I was supposed to say, yeah. That was like a reinvention for him. Because when he hit that flow, then he kept going with that flow. He kept doing the fast shit.
Starting point is 01:14:37 They don't know the slow, but it's not like he said peanut butter 70 times in a row. Somebody would even have to stand in front and break your head. Like Busta got records that might not have been your favorite record when it was out, but if it comes on, that energy and him, his energy combined,
Starting point is 01:14:53 it's a lot of energy to deal with. That's true. Leads me to my winner in tonight's battle, Fat Joe versus Ja Rule. I heard a lot of Ja Rule leading up to it. As we get closer, I'm hearing a lot of Fat Joe. I'm pulling back my we get closer, I'm hearing a lot of Fat Joe. I'm pulling back my jaw.
Starting point is 01:15:08 You going Joe now? I'm going Fat Joe. I'm not going Fat Joe, but I said- Those are the only two people that are performing tonight. I said 13-7 Ja Rule. You got Dale LaFunky on my little kick here. This nigga's so stupid. You said what, Ja?
Starting point is 01:15:22 I said 13-7 before. You changed your score. Yeah, it's closer than that You got Ja winning But what's your new score Or you're not even sure By how many
Starting point is 01:15:29 Maybe by one By one Maybe by one I got Fat Joe winning I got Fat Joe winning I also have Fat Joe winning I have Fat Joe winning And as I thought about it
Starting point is 01:15:37 It's just that A lot of the Fat Joe records Are gonna hit harder They gonna hit They hit hard They gonna hit They gonna hit like Don't get me wrong
Starting point is 01:15:44 You know Ja got a lot of them R&B J-Lo Ashanti records I get it Joe Records are going to hit harder. They're going to hit. They're going to hit hard. They're going to hit. They're going to hit. Like, don't get me wrong. You know, Jai got a lot of them R&B, J-Lo, Ashanti records. I get it. You can bring Ashanti out. So can Joe. But his record, them records hit just a little harder. I'm always wrong. So, Jai's probably going to win. Listen.
Starting point is 01:16:05 R. Kelly's on this, but it's coming on. It's coming on. And it's gonna work. And it's gonna work. Wait a minute now. He might have found a way to replay it or chop him out.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Fat Joe's. Yeah, Fat Joe was that meticulous. Yeah, he's that. What's love? This is my thing. This record, when did We Thuggin' come out? Oh, what? Early 2000s. Yeah, I was going to say early 2000s.
Starting point is 01:16:38 It was early 2000s. It's on the screen. Oh, what? Actually, let's check that. It's 01. I'm telling you. It's on the screen. Fat Joe went from We Thuggin' in 01 to Lean Back in 02?
Starting point is 01:16:49 No, Lean Back. Oh, yeah. That's about right. Yeah, I guess that would be about right. Lean Back came out before Pump It Up. I know because I was in the clubs and they didn't pay me no money. There was no Pump It Up. Lean Back was out first.
Starting point is 01:17:00 I thought that was later for some reason. That's crazy. No, hell no. 04? Lean Back wasn't out before Pump It Up. All right, so maybe oh four maybe my memory's bad when did lean back come out oh four still we thugging's oh one yeah i don't care when it came out to go from that to that i was there dog i was there i know a lot of y'all is 2021 22 lean back i have a son that's that age he don't understand it neither when we thuguggin' came out and Fat Joe had on that Carolina blue fucking,
Starting point is 01:17:28 that mink by a pool. He might have even jumped in the pool. I think he did jump in the pool. Fam. I got the mink on. Same. Fam. Fam.
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Starting point is 01:17:39 Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. Fam. I'm a bad. Got the mink on Same color the rain Yo Yeah that was it God That was it Now This record is not a guaranteed point Against Fat Joe I mean against Ja Rule But boy is it a little joker Yeah
Starting point is 01:17:56 Boy is it a deuce of diamond Hey when he play this Something big is coming out Always on time Holla holla Ja got about eight records Something big is coming out. Always on time. Holla, holla. Ja got about eight records that's going to make Fat Joe sweat. But when you've been out since 1991, that's going to make Fat Joe sweat.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Yeah, eight. Yo, we just putting Ja in this. Ja's records didn't age the way they should have We putting Ja in the R&B bag We forgetting Ja had some nigga shit Murder Inc. is coming That Murder Inc. shit is coming on Oh shit When he play that
Starting point is 01:18:32 Vinny Vinny Vechi all VVV Dog Then they got damn near 20 songs in that album Yeah You're not playing that many Off of that album
Starting point is 01:18:39 No you're not It depends I promise you You might get You're gonna get two Maybe three Dead Dead I tell you Yeah
Starting point is 01:18:50 Yeah this Can't be serious What is What is If this comes on Versus deep cover What happens Deep cover but
Starting point is 01:18:58 Shit It's gonna happen With three of us Illest niggas together Street music and so forth And one track, huh? Can't be serious I'm cut it off
Starting point is 01:19:11 I'm gonna go rob somebody But look, but look If you play this Versus Deep Cover Ja still got its murder Man, Ja has a lot of shit, bro Again, I'm reeling back My blowout
Starting point is 01:19:24 It's not gonna be a blowout Johnny Blaze,, I'm reeling back my blowout. Fat Joe's got- It's not going to be a blowout. Johnny Blaze, though. It's not going to be a blowout. What I'm saying is, y'all got some shit. It depends on more than the music. I think it's going to depend on the personalities up there on the stage. I think it depends on the order.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Again, they pre-picking the order. I think it depends on I wouldn't be surprised if there's some audibles called though Fat Joe look like he'd give an audible if he needs to
Starting point is 01:19:51 before I play this let me say I don't I think that I have a better Ja Ru set than Ja Ru probably I've said this about
Starting point is 01:20:03 every verses amongst rappers that I've watched. I would agree with you. And that's where I judge off my say. I would agree with him. That's what's going to piss me off. This ain't coming off. It's done in every verse.
Starting point is 01:20:15 That motherfuckers is ready or what? Is that motherfuckers ready or what? Man, they're clapping at me, bro. I don't think you are. I don't think so. They got my back against the building. I'm the building that's creeping around corners. Yo, I said that Cam wouldn't play Pull It, but he played it. And these ain't even the songs I'm looking for. I'm looking for...
Starting point is 01:20:45 We don't give a fuck. Say, y'all don't give a fuck. Hold up, man. We don't give a fuck. The murderers. And if Ja don't play that, listen. I have a problem with Ja. Ja Rule put up like 180 points in our fantasy league this weekend.
Starting point is 01:21:00 So I don't even think he really thinking about verses. Like, he got Tom Brady, Christian McCaffrey. He got Waller put up 27. He is a fantasy football killer. Or he got ill into fantasy football that I could just set that and focus on the versus because y'all niggas trash. Dog. I know y'all was young.
Starting point is 01:21:23 Yo! Throw your motherfucking middle fingers in the air, nigga! I know y'all was young I don't want to hear from no, I don't, I don't want to be around nobody that rhymes clip and Surtur with anything, with anything with anything I flow so sick it's murder clip inserter
Starting point is 01:22:10 yeah I'm cool you got it fam I was at that little club in Queens I told y'all I was outside I just wasn't popping but the niggas
Starting point is 01:22:20 that was popping at the time Early Fab Clue Tape Fab Clue and Murder Inc. and all of that, right? And Ja can't play this record, but if he could, I might pick Ja.
Starting point is 01:22:31 But I was there for this in Queens. Oh, my God. Y'all lucky he can't play it. See, I don't know about this. Yeah, I cut it off. Let me cut it off. See, and that's why I don't talk hip-hop with people that's 21, 22, 23, and 24. Because, yeah, you might have heard this.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Fam, they didn't even have the page. Like, you ain't had a two-way. I don't even know what that is. Hello. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. Yes, the fuck you do. Don't let your shit sell.
Starting point is 01:22:55 You know what it is. You know. Just let the message rock. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Park, what they was doing in Elmira when this was out, uh oh, uh oh. Oh my gosh. I don't know why he don't play this.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Gangsta, gangsta. He not on it bro. He not on it. Gangsta, gangsta. It's time for murder. Murder. Gangsta murder. Fuck is y'all niggas talking about?
Starting point is 01:23:20 I'm telling y'all I want to see a verses between like, between like niggas like. Camps. Yeah like I want to hear, I want to see a versus between niggas like... I want to hear this record against Tony Yeo's, oh nigga, do you know what this is? Just records that worked, but that person might not have enough to do a versus on their own, but we want to hear it to see somebody stand across from it.
Starting point is 01:23:40 I was in New York during So Seductive, man. Different New York. Different New York. Different New York. But listen, let's move on. I got Fat Joe winning by a hair. Yeah, me too. I got the perverse. One or two. One or two.
Starting point is 01:23:53 If he spanks Ja, I won't be shocked. Really? I won't. I believe Ja is hosting in Houston Friday with Bun B. Ja is doing shit. I believe Jai is hosting in Houston Friday with Bun B. Jai is doing shit. I believe Fat Joe. Jai is trying to get that price to go from yesterday's price to today's price. I believe Fat Joe to be tucked away for the last month.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Because mind you, they've been asking Fat Joe to do a versus forever. For a long time. And he gave you his answer. Yo, nah, because I don't play like that. He said that. Hey, hey. He said, nah, I will hurt somebody. In Ja's defense, they've been asking Ja for a long time.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Ja's been saying he want 50, and he's like, yo, I want to do it. Sign it up. Line it up. I'm just talking about the mind state of the guy that says, yo, I can't do this friendly stuff because I don't even know how to do this. That person is not to be played with. We will see tomorrow or today or tonight or whenever. Look at this guy.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Nah, but it was good because they boys. Like, they genuinely like each other. You know what I'm saying? They're going to finish out together and do what's love. Yeah, they'll do what's love with a shanty. She'll come out. You know, this is, it ain't beef. This ain't beef.
Starting point is 01:25:04 I want to wanna hear I wish I wish Fab not Fab I wish Fat Joe did that shit like Keith Sweat did a little bit where he inserted
Starting point is 01:25:12 some of his joints with the newer shit like I wish Fat Joe goes plays Meek and Fab and it's not gonna happen but when they flipped
Starting point is 01:25:24 his record oh okay they flipped his record. Oh, okay, okay. They flipped Live My Lifestyle. Live My Lifestyle is coming on. Let the verse rock. Let the hook rock. And after that, show how you still out here today. Like, what's the name of that, bro?
Starting point is 01:25:35 I'm playing that record, and then we can keep going. That beat is crazy. That shit is going to work. Yeah, that's a good one. I forgot about that. See, that's what I like. And I know this is going to happen in his verses. There's going to be some records that I forgot about Fat Joe.
Starting point is 01:25:49 For sure. Oh, shit. He got this one, too. Yeah. That's the thing. That's what made me roll back some of my shit. That nigga got a 20-year career, though. I remember Flo Joe.
Starting point is 01:26:00 I remember where I was at. I remember what I was doing when Flo Joe came out. He's not playing no DITC shit probably, but he might. It's records that's not listed on these little, when we pull up discography shits, and they're going to come out. And we be like, God damn, I forgot about this. What was the name of that Live My Life record? You talking about the one that Fab and Meek did with the Fat Joe flip?
Starting point is 01:26:23 Foreigners. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. I know, I know, I know. A lot of music this pod. Fuck it. We didn't do our Trevor Noah transformation yet. It's coming.
Starting point is 01:26:37 We're a work in progress, man. We'll get there. Yo, that's the other thing about Fab. Fab broke some niggas he don't get credit for or aided and assisted in a lot of careers that he don't get credit for. I'm shutting up. Man, oh.
Starting point is 01:26:52 The family. Huh? Fam, I say all the time, yeah, Jeezy was big in the South, but it wasn't until up here. Yeah, no, Fab broke Jeezy in New York. Fab broke Jeezy in New York, and you had to make it in New York
Starting point is 01:27:03 to go nationwide at that time. DC. Ain't nobody gonna say nothing about me. Yo, when a New York nigga just scream DC in front of him, he's trying to get money. Yeah. Ain't nobody gonna say nothing about me. I ain't can never say nothing about me.
Starting point is 01:27:21 I got to cut this off. Sheesh. I got to cut that off. Man. Yeah. Ain't nothin' around me I got this off, I got that off Man Kill the T-F Oh shit if he got the remix on, Jadakiss
Starting point is 01:27:34 Oh no Yo whoever has more songs with Jadakiss wins Oh yo wait wait wait Most cars, most guns, most bitches Now I'm gotta pull the trigger I just blow kisses. Niggas love Jada. But hey, rap.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Upstate trying to get their weight back. About to go to K-SAC. Ah! I asked Ice this morning who he think is going to win this versus, and he said Jadakiss. I said, I don't think Jadakiss is in this one. He said, I don't care. And now I see what he meant.
Starting point is 01:28:04 I made niggas believe it's my voice. My flow to help your faggot ass get in the league. Now I got a soft dick to sell records. Get all out of character. Scream and yell records. Listen to me. I'm the cat that'll sit in the tree and shoot the dog in the head while he shit me pee. And I'm just so cool.
Starting point is 01:28:22 I probably could snatch chili from Usher In a club in Atlanta with no juice Shout out to Buckwild, man. Enough of that D. Listen, dog. That B is hard. If Fat Joe, what I'm saying is, and I could be on an island with this one. If Fat Joe decides,
Starting point is 01:28:39 yo, enough. Enough. Let's play for real. Let me really get into 25, years of joints listen i said this joint was coming on uh ice told me it wasn't maybe y'all told me it wasn't and then we'll move on because it's tonight but i think that this is coming on i don't think so you told me that i know you're gonna hear this. Let's take it to the head. Huh?
Starting point is 01:29:06 No. Another word. That's what I'm going to do. Uh-oh. Come on, man. You think Joe not putting this on tonight? Hold on. Lean back all the way up.
Starting point is 01:29:17 Lean back, remix. I think he might. And I'm going to tell you when. Wait a minute. Come on, put your hands to the side. The side out there. And I'ma tell you, baby, I'ma love you I'ma love you I'ma love you I'ma love you I'ma love you I used to want you and her and her and her and you and her
Starting point is 01:29:38 I used to want, he used to want all y'all, huh? Not anymore, not present day Let's get a little bridge in there He used to want all y'all. Not anymore. Not present day. Let's get a little bridge in there. Hey. Hey. And when he play this, this is why I think Fat Joe is going to win and we'll move on. Audience. It's audience.
Starting point is 01:29:58 Fat Joe said, if you come into Hulu Theater tonight wearing a cardigan, we know who you rooting for. He said that. This is conditioning and manipulation here. Fat Joe is going to have 400 South Bronx Spanish niggas that cut niggas in there today. Fat Joe maybe don't cut niggas no more. But niggas that cut niggas is gonna be in there right so he's gonna win that part because jai ain't gonna play all his street shit he ain't he's gonna try to commercial him to death joe gonna win the street part and joe just has a lot of girl songs like that the
Starting point is 01:30:38 new instagram girls know here's the thing and and this reminds me of Fab Jadakiss again because we said that we literally said that about Fab no no no don't say we I told you exactly what was going to happen
Starting point is 01:30:51 there and don't talk about it in Fab Appreciation episode don't do that I see what you're trying to do no I'm not I'm not doing that don't do that
Starting point is 01:30:58 I'm saying we as in the people who thought it was going to go one way that Fab got well in this case like you, all these girl records. Yo, he might street record you to death knowing that Ja has a bunch of girl records. Like the approach that Jada took. Nah, I can do that.
Starting point is 01:31:17 I don't have to because when we both decide to street record it out, you can't really fuck with me like that. You got a couple, but I got a lot. Who got a lot? Fat Joe has a lot. He does too. I'm not like Fat Joe. Not a lot of street. Ja Rule does too.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Ja Rule better hope that Fat Joe didn't put a fucking snare on Still Not A Player. He better hope he didn't touch none of Big Pun's shit besides the shit he touched. Because if he could play big pun joints, I bet you he'd do it too. I'm going with pun. Come on. I mean, I'm going with Joe. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:50 He going to play his artist. Yeah. Yes, he's going to do it. Hey, yo, I'm still not a player, but you still ain't a elevator to the top high. Hey, that's coming on. And I don't care if he's not on it. He's in the video.
Starting point is 01:32:04 He's signed up. That's good to hear. He's in the video. That's good to know And I don't care if he's not on it. Here's the video. He signed it. That's good to hear. Here's the video. That's good to know. I'll take it. Yo, Fat Joe might make an appetizer out of Ja tonight. Yeah, I'm probably against my better judgment. I'm going to call Ja and just see where his head space is.
Starting point is 01:32:20 I hope he don't answer. For real, because he should be getting his shit ready. Like, it's a few hours before versus. Oh, let me see, man. Let me get a little thingamajiggy now. He might be feeling good. He might answer. It's always a tricky situation when you're calling people live on.
Starting point is 01:32:37 Whoever he plays, smack them up. So you open up with the fantasy talk and then you go into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see if it works. Butter him up with the fantasy? Yeah, you got to. Hit him with the fantasy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see if it works. Butter him up with the fantasy? Yeah, you got to. Hit it with the fantasy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:47 Let's see if that works. 180 for the week, though, King. You might not even have my numbers. Oh, shit. I got to pay my phone bill. Hold on. Look at these three little dots right here while I'm on Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 01:33:01 They're like, nigga, you don't give us that 378. God damn. What? That's a lot. What's a lot? $3.78 a month? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:12 I barely notice it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't have a hat on. I'm sorry. It's a lot for you. Oh, it ain't. It's a lot for me.
Starting point is 01:33:22 The fuck you talking about? I have people on my plan. Okay, well, that's different. I have other phones. My phone get cut off. 90 other niggas cut off. And I chill. I'm fine.
Starting point is 01:33:31 I'm fine. I'm fine. I want you guys to realize how blessed you are. Stop taking me around. Your phone ain't working. Hey, one of my guys, I won't say his name, because that's my man. His phone is linked to my shit.
Starting point is 01:33:44 My shit cut off, which is cool, because I'm in bed in the morning's my man. His phone is linked to my shit. My shit cut off, which is cool because I'm in bed in the morning watching First Take. I'm not looking for nobody. But his cut off, too, he was in the middle of like Uber Eats delivery. Like he had somebody. With no Wi-Fi. Yeah, he had somebody food in his car and the phone stopped working. Oh, he worked for Uber Eats. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Yeah, no, he worked. He was trying to drive somebody their food. Oh, shit. And I can't use no data? I didn't call my phone so fast. That nigga got to the corner like left or right. I don't know. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Y'all talk, man. Hold on. Oh, shit. Yo. You know what? This is serious. I think I'm about to break podcast ground right now by paying my phone bill on here. Let's see if this shit work.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Please don't tell me you're serious. He about to pay his phone bill. Hey, my nigga, you're an entity. You ain't got your bills on auto pay, bum ass nigga? No. I don't trust the auto pay. You don't got to pay him, this person. You want me to tell you what happened when I told Easy Pass they could just do what they want?
Starting point is 01:34:43 They did what they wanted, y'all. They did everything they wanted. They ran it up. Hey, come on. You want to have that done? happened when I told EZ Pass they could just do what they want? They did what they wanted. They did everything they wanted. They ran it up. Hey, come on. You want to have that done? They ran it the fuck up. Hey, hey. Kyde, the same shit.
Starting point is 01:34:51 EZ. Kyde scraped me one year fucking around with auto pay. EZ Pass. Everything is on auto pay. Yo, by the way, you owe us $1,000. Huh? No, EZ Pass takes the $1,000. No, but not just that.
Starting point is 01:35:02 EZ Pass's. Voice is sexy. So you chilling. Jordy came up, Joe, do you want to auto this every month? Yes. Do you want to go to Manhattan tonight? You don't even have to worry about this. We'll just take care of it for you. It's like, word.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Word. Duh. You come with it. Man, Easy Pass took my four grand Out my shit Talking about Talking about Listen We took the amount of trips
Starting point is 01:35:28 That you took one month And equated it For the year That's what they do No I know Your little automated voice Didn't say that
Starting point is 01:35:35 Easy pass Right Now I gotta drive up here And use my face card To talk to a fucking human And you had to go to And I My phone will not my phone won't...
Starting point is 01:35:45 611 won't even... Hold on. I can't even call Jeffery. All right. I think I paid my bill. Let's give it another shot. You guys see how it goes. Let's see if we can get some
Starting point is 01:35:54 ahead of the battle commentary. I don't even hear the thing. This thing is on and on. Hello? Yo, Buttons, what's good? Ja, this is Joe Button, and I'm live on air. So don't say anything. Don't say anything.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Don't say anything. Just be quiet. I will protect you here. Let me try to get this to work, because I just want to ask you about fantasy football real quick. Yeah, let's go. You got a lot of work I'm putting in this week already. All right.
Starting point is 01:36:26 There we go. We hear you. Jairo, how you doing? Buttons was good. Nothing much, man. How you doing? Congratulations on your week one fantasy football win. Yeah, you know the champ is here, baby.
Starting point is 01:36:40 Now, you have Tom Brady, Christian McCaffrey, and Deontay Waller is his name? Deontay Waller? Yeah, yeah. It carried you to a victory. You also had the first pick in this draft, right? Yeah, I had the first pick. I picked Christian McCaffrey with my pick, and it paid off. It's paying off so far so good.
Starting point is 01:37:02 I called you to ask you two things. Let me start with the first one. What do you think about this theory that every time you sit next to Joe Budden in Fantasy Football Draft, you somehow have the best team in the world? What do you think about that theory?
Starting point is 01:37:18 Anything? There might be something to it, Joe. That's why I sit next to you every year. John, question. This is Ice. I got a question for you, Ja. What up, Ice? Did you do your pen and paper thing again, or did you actually
Starting point is 01:37:33 have some technology with you this time? No, he was rocking this time. I had my computer. Okay, alright. That was the craziest shit I've ever seen in my life. I always tell people, like, yo, he bodied a draft with pen and paper. Yeah, no, he did that. Yo, how you think they did it back in the days before they had all this technology?
Starting point is 01:37:52 They wrote it down on paper. They had to go through old school. Good point. Ja, listen to this. You my man, and I love you, and I know you've been concerned with fantasy football, but Fat Joe don't even play fantasy football. At all.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Yeah, at all. Like, for years. He don't even know what football is. And Fat Joe is meticulous and strategic. You his friend, so I don't have to tell you this. Are you ready for the night, man? Come on, Joe. You know I'm ready for the night, man? Come on, Joe. You know I'm ready for the night, baby.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Are you as ready as you think Fat Joe will be is what I'm saying? Because I think he's been studying for like a month straight. That's cool. That's cool. I may not need that long to study, but I got the work for him. You know what I mean? I got it down to what I need to do. Hey, you know, the funny thing about Versus is the records is the records. You know what i mean i got it down i got it down to what i need to do hey you know the funny thing about verses is the records is the records you know what i'm saying where you place
Starting point is 01:38:50 them is very strategic but the records is the records it's like not like i can make no new he can't make no new so we both know what we got come on with it well there's only one one one problem with that ja is, is he has made new shit. Are you worried about his newer records all the way up? Some of the newer joints he's dropped? Nah. All the way up ain't new. That's old.
Starting point is 01:39:17 It's old as my shit, but it's old. Nah, that is old. That ain't old I ain't gonna lie I just called to really talk to you about football And hear the sound of your voice You don't sound concerned You sound smooth
Starting point is 01:39:32 You chilling Listen, man I feel good, man You know what it is It is what it is, man What's up, baby? We gotta go again He talking to fans here
Starting point is 01:39:42 Alright, listen I don't i don't want to distract you so i'm gonna go i was you're gonna be in the building no i'm scared of them bronx niggas fat joke came in the building tonight baby i'm listen don't play i'll pull up there i'll pull up pull up it's gonna get it's gonna be crazy i'll get a knife and come. It's going to be a fucking movie. I think Kaiz and Shaft pulling up. Oh, no. All right. So, all right.
Starting point is 01:40:11 I'm hanging up with you and I'm calling Kaiz. Say less. What time y'all starting? What time y'all starting? Eight? We started nine. We started nine. Oh, I might can make that.
Starting point is 01:40:19 All right. Good luck. I love you. Fuck your football team. My brother. And that's it. Love you, my brother. One drop. One you, my brother. One job.
Starting point is 01:40:25 What? Uh-oh. He sounds very confident. He sound like Apollo Creed did before. Am I bugging out? Am I off in this? No, you sound like- I'm just scared when people are like that.
Starting point is 01:40:42 Where did you pull that from in your brain? This nigga sounds like Apollo Creed. Now, I remember niggas was trying to talk to Apollo Creed before the fight. Apollo ain't give a fuck. He was talking to fans, designing his trunks. I ain't see Rocky, so I don't know. That Russian learned him something. None of them?
Starting point is 01:40:57 No. Never seen Rocky. I told y'all that before. I've never seen him. Get out. Get out. I'm done with you. Get the hell out of here.
Starting point is 01:41:04 All right, let me see something. Look at Ish Reese. He can't do that. What y'all doing tonight? Y'all want to pull up over there? We can pull up. I don't want to see the nigga that I'm supporting. Buddy.
Starting point is 01:41:14 Guys, this is Joe Budden. We're live on the Joe Budden Podcast. Don't say a word. Congratulations on your week one fantasy football win and your high score, 190 points. That shit is fly. Amari Cooper saved your ass. Listen to this. I just hung up with Ja Rule, the legendary Ja Rule.
Starting point is 01:41:31 He don't sound like he got a care in the world. I'm a little worried about that, but it's fine. He told me that he asked me if I was pulling up tonight. I said, no, I'm not pulling up because I'm scared of Fat Joe's Bronx niggas machoing them. Macho is not with them anymore. But still, it's a bunch of niggas like macho, and I'm scared of Bronx niggas that'll stab you, right? But listen, he said that you and Sav was pulling up. You pulling up in support of who?
Starting point is 01:42:01 Ja Rule. Because I don't want to put... Because Ja is my man. No, no, no. Ja is my man. I want to pull up and support Ja. Ja, let me explain
Starting point is 01:42:12 something to you. Dog. You was outside in 91. I ain't got to tell you. My Def Jam career started with Ja Rule. Okay? Oh, brother.
Starting point is 01:42:24 And I gave that boy 10 solid years. Okay? I gave that man My FJF career started with Ja Rule. Oh, brother. And I gave that boy 10 solid years. Okay? I gave that man 10 solid years. Then I went over to Atlantic. Oh. And had the luxury of working with a young man by the name of Fat Joe. Okay?
Starting point is 01:42:38 You've been around. Don't get shit caught. All right, all right. Don't get shit to these niggas, man. Yeah. Talk to these niggas. yeah talk to these niggas but but i'm gonna i'm gonna be honest if i'm being honest we live we live be careful lie you can lie to these niggas they don't know i love both the guys i love them both but ja you, it's 51-49. You understand?
Starting point is 01:43:06 Because I started out with Ja. I started out his career from ground zero. I understand. And that has something to do with it. Like when you start from ground zero and make him one of the biggest stars in the world, that's special. When I went over to work with Joe, Joe was already popping. You understand?
Starting point is 01:43:22 It makes sense. It makes sense. I understand. So I'm 51 49 you got you got a roll def jam i get it i get listen i think i'm gonna pull up man if i can't get in i'm gonna call your phone i don't have a ticket i didn't buy nothing i didn't reserve nothing i wasn't gonna go but i found the knife that should get me in joe joe you're good money your face value is money in these streets you're good good, brother. Yeah, when I come alone, my face is good.
Starting point is 01:43:46 But when I come with people. Are you going on time? Let me just ask you that. Call me after the show. Say less. Say less. I'll call you after the show. Love you, Mike.
Starting point is 01:43:56 All right, guys. All right, y'all. One. I don't know. That's a great reply from Mike. Yeah. Mike Haas is the nicest guy. He ain't going to trip up.
Starting point is 01:44:06 And he's been around long enough to work with everybody. Ah, Ja just said, he was saying hi to fans. Yeah, I want to take a picture. He's like, yeah, come on, come get a picture. Unbobble. I just think Ja is in too great of a mood. Like, his little fiery festival nigga got arrested. He out in the streets.
Starting point is 01:44:22 Like, Ja, I don't think Ja care. I'm thinking about that care when or lose. Yo, y'all trying to say Ja was selling fake tents. Y'all trying to get my nigga out the paint.
Starting point is 01:44:33 I remember. Hey, yo, this nigga. Y'all trying to say him and Billy was selling fake sandwiches. Yo.
Starting point is 01:44:40 Taylor Swift tickets. I don't know what y'all was doing. I had to wow. Who? No, because I had to watch Who? No Because I had to watch Ja combat that
Starting point is 01:44:48 You know You know when you You know when you know the dude That people are discussing Yeah You right They was tearing Ja ass up They called him every scammer
Starting point is 01:44:57 In the book Like he Here And all he kept saying Was his truth Which was Yo dawg They got dawg
Starting point is 01:45:03 Like he They've captured a criminal About it I'm fine Y'all leave me alone was his truth, which was, yo, dog, they got dog. They've captured a criminal about it. I'm fine. Y'all leave me alone. But hip hop will bring the heat to somebody.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Oh, man, I might have to pull up there tonight, but I'm not dressed for the event. You might be. What you mean? You know you got
Starting point is 01:45:20 to run a per goal after. I mean, I'm dressed for one event, but I mean, my dress code wasn't really for fat Joe and John. Joe Button. Yo, when I tell you about, hey, let's talk about pergola. You want to? Let's dance.
Starting point is 01:45:34 I ain't been there all week, but boy, I heard about it all week. All right. Didn't I tell you? Didn't I tell you? Yo, didn't I tell you? Hey! You said that shit Friday. You was like, yo, I know that pergola is popping all week long.
Starting point is 01:45:47 That's exactly what he said. Hey, pergola. How to give it to him. Didn't I tell you? 100%. Pergola, but listen, man. Boy. I don't like to be mixy like that, but what the streets is.
Starting point is 01:45:57 Nah. You open up this podcast with your mixiness. Word. You've been mixy for the last two months. See, but that's one way to look at it. I opened it up with fam that helped me early in my career. Going to Pergola is different. You talking about me going somewhere with fab and people.
Starting point is 01:46:13 Pergola has been LeBron, Russell Westbrook, Trevor, the Lakers starting five. It's been the Cowboys offensive line. It's been a different level of Mixie. I don't know if Pump It Up is working at the door. I don't know if it's working. No, no, no. Pump It Up won't work. My car works at the door like my car.
Starting point is 01:46:32 But when I get podcast, it works at the door. Yeah. Well, we're going to see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Can you go? I'm 45 years old.
Starting point is 01:46:42 What's wrong with me? And can you go? Yes, nigga. Can you go? Nigga, I'm 31 years old. No, with you And can you go Yes nigga Can you go Nigga I'm 31 years old So no So no You can't
Starting point is 01:46:48 So no So no Ask me can I go So no Ask me again I'll give you a direct answer What we gonna do in Pergola But sit at the bar
Starting point is 01:46:55 And wait for people to walk in Staring at the door Ain't no bar There's no bar no more Small That'll be full by the time we get there That's true That bar fill up quick
Starting point is 01:47:03 I'll sit outside Pergola Some of the shit I seen that'll be full by the time we get there. That's true. That bar filled up quick. I'll sit outside for a little bit. Some of the shit I've seen. Hey, listen, quick story time, and then we'll move on. And use this story time to figure out where we're moving on to. This has nothing to do with anything. But we brought up our conversation.
Starting point is 01:47:20 Oh, in the car, Parks, in the car we was talking about the body, and I've said this here before, the body type that I like on women left it's over okay yeah the thick women are trying their best to get as small as possible in the car on the way here i gave them some examples of thicker women that i adored that are now like really really really slim really slim right i couldn't believe i couldn't believe one in particular i'm not gonna so that's cool so i cool. So I can't look at anybody because the thick girls don't want to be thick anymore, granted. And the other week, we talked about the girls that have the bust downs on and the jewelry on.
Starting point is 01:47:56 And we spoke about them as bartenders or whatever. So last night, it's my off day. I hit sew. I'm not going out. So I said, you know what, dog? Let's run over to the supermarket. Let's pick up some fucking French vanilla coffee, maybe see what's going on up there.
Starting point is 01:48:13 I need some more Solo cups. A little ice cream. Yeah, shit like that. Like little lightweight trinkets and shit. Little trinkets. Little Haagen-Dazs, some chicken dip ingredients, some water. I get in there I get on the line
Starting point is 01:48:26 and it was too many people on that line it was one person but she had too much food so I scrunched up my face and I sped off with the cart to like two aisles down it was completely empty
Starting point is 01:48:39 except for one girl with a mask on and blonde hair and she was beautiful she was beautiful. She was beautiful. So beautiful that I'm sure she thought I was zooming over to just being the same Al as her. And she was so beautiful that I just kept staring at her.
Starting point is 01:48:59 She was fine. Why was she fine? You know how fine you got to be to notice that you're fine through a mask. Did we ever talk about that here? Mask, yeah. She had a mask on, half her face covered. Still fine. Just eyes and hair. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:15 And I was like, oh my God. A goddess, right? Uh-huh. Yeah, we've had that. But I wasn't looking my best. And I'm in a relationship, so I'll never. But as I get to watching, I look at her shoes. I turn and I go right to her shoes.
Starting point is 01:49:33 Nui Celeron slides. That didn't intimidate me, though. I know women with those slides. What's the toes look like? Freshly done. Freshly done French vanilla, man. French petty, whatever they call that shit it was fly then i went to the as i'm scrolling you know you start at the bottom and you look up and
Starting point is 01:49:49 the jeans was man man were they jeaning under some pressure the jeans was jeaning them shit look like the old sergio bagate whatever that shit look like the sergio volantes the sergio volantes look painted on. I'm scrolling up some more. And before I got to Torso, I got to Aris. She had the AP I wanted. It's nice. It wasn't a bust down, a little plastic band.
Starting point is 01:50:15 No, no, no. You don't have to bust it down. It was the supermarket AP. We ain't no here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She had some Tiffany bracelets on. And I scrolled up. The blouse was flowing.
Starting point is 01:50:24 It was white. It was a flowy blouse, badass, cleavage, hair done, manicure done, and some nice chain up here, right? And I looked at her. And when I got to her eyes, she was looking at me. And I didn't look good at all. When I see them girls, I look as worse as I can look. No hat. George Jefferson hairline
Starting point is 01:50:48 man wow she gonna she looked at me might have scrunched her face up and kept on moving bitch card declined so I didn't care but as I'm looking at her I'm like
Starting point is 01:50:56 yo I can't even say nothing to her there's nothing to say right in this moment attractive girl attractive guy there's nothing to say well if in this moment, attractive girl, attractive guy. There's nothing to say. Well, if her card got declined, you could say, hey, I got it. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 01:51:11 No, they got it. It was the girl's fault. It was the girl, the new register lady. Her card was fine. So you followed her to the register? No. I didn't even know she was there. It was coincidence that he ended up there.
Starting point is 01:51:20 I didn't know she was there. I didn't see her. She wasn't tall enough for me to see. I just sped over there because there was one item there, and she had some complications. I ended up waiting there a lot longer because the supermarket lady fucked it up. So I'm staring at her. She's staring at me staring at her.
Starting point is 01:51:33 But it's like, okay, you can't talk to the thick girl because they're not thick no more. You can't talk to the girl that looks to be too well-kept because the first thing in your mind is she's too well-kept. So there's someone there. And then I'm like, well, shit, even if she wasn't so well-kept, I wouldn't say nothing because you can't flirt anymore. You can't really talk to strangers in any type of way.
Starting point is 01:51:54 Hey, you are beautiful today in the supermarket. Like, what do you say? What do you say there? How you doing? Like, did you, hey? You can't flirt. You used to be nice at that, though. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:52:03 I'm still, but times have changed. You used to be nice. I'm nice. And that's my point. I ain't going to hold you. You used to be nice. You know to be nice at that though Go ahead I'm still But times have changed You used to be nice I'm nice And that's my point You used to be nice You know I'm nice at that You used to be nice So if I'm feeling like that
Starting point is 01:52:12 You can How the fuck you do that You can't today Cause I don't do it I used to be like Yo how did you do that Ish no I could pull a conversation
Starting point is 01:52:19 Out of anything With anybody Yo do you bowl That's something stupid Yo do you bowl Just out of nowhere stupid. Yo, do you bowl? Just out of nowhere. But if I'm feeling like that here, it's got to be tough for men. It's got to be tough for men.
Starting point is 01:52:32 That's all I was thinking. So think about that. You're an attractive dude. You're a successful dude. You got notoriety. I'm rich and I ain't get a look. That's what I'm saying. Look.
Starting point is 01:52:43 I was building you up. Imagine what the accountant that don't know nobody think. It's just weird. That is a hard thing. She was fine. And I try to tell all my female friends. And I was behind you in the acme. No, she knew.
Starting point is 01:52:59 You was fine. Nigga, Joe Bud was on my dick yesterday. I know. I know. Because this stupid ass me pulled my mask off for two seconds. Oh, you corny. You corny. You corny.
Starting point is 01:53:11 You corny. Had to conveniently pull him out. Oh, no, no. I know. I know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, yo.
Starting point is 01:53:21 Yo, you corny. You right. No, no, you right. Oh, dog. Not you. It was hot. My face was hot. Say it ain't cool. You right. No, no, you right. Oh, dog. Not you. It was hot. My face was hot. Say it ain't so.
Starting point is 01:53:28 It happened. It was so. It was so. It was so. It was so. It was so, so that I left it off and then was like, yo, what are you doing? Yo, put your mask on, you fucking nasty cockroach. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:53:43 She was beautiful. Oh, baby, these the dirty sweatpants, but I'm Joe Button. You didn't do that, though. Why was I in there like that? Oh, man. I got to get jiggy to go get coffee creamer. No, no, nigga,
Starting point is 01:53:56 but we used to go at three in the morning. You know, three in the morning. But that's when it was open 24 hours. Now they close at like midnight. Oh, word? Yeah, pandemic, and yeah, they close at midnight. I didn't know that. That's corny. So they be in there. It was open 24 hours. Now they're closing like midnight. Oh, what? Yeah. Pandemic. And yeah, they're closing midnight. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:54:06 That's corny. So they be in there. It was right before closing. All right, we'll move on. But no, no, don't move on. No, no, don't move on. Don't move on. I need some more jokes.
Starting point is 01:54:15 Oh, get your shit off. Listen, I failed. Nah, but again, dog, think about, again, and he's a talker. Right. And he's saying if he wasn't in a relationship, he would have been at a loss for words. I don't think so. He would have found a way.
Starting point is 01:54:30 Bam, I'm saying something totally different. I'm saying today. What I would have said would have offended her. Like, yeah, you want me to just pay it? What I'm saying is today, you can't do that. You can't do it. You can't speak to women. I don't even want to see no fine girls.
Starting point is 01:54:44 This is kind of on that topic, but off a little bit. I don't know if y'all saw the young lady put a video out of a neighbor that rung her doorbell and was trying to flirt with her through the ring camera. He's like, yo, I just want to see you. He rung her doorbell. Nah, that's too much. She answered. If you don't know the difference between that and saying hi to someone at the grocery line.
Starting point is 01:55:03 I'm calling the cops. Well, why couldn't he just needed some sugar? Why is he doing that? She recorded it. She recorded it. So he rung the doorbell. She answered. She's like, yo, it's early, 6 in the morning.
Starting point is 01:55:14 He's like, yo, I just want to say, yo, you fine as hell. I'll be trying to catch you outside. I don't really get to see you. So I'm just trying to talk to you. Nah. That's weird. Somebody had to come make a citizen's arrest yeah yeah it is it's definitely weirdo shit 100 i'm moving and then
Starting point is 01:55:30 he put a little something out earlier today saying that he was lying he wasn't really trying to holler at her we got it all no chase's phone it was in her apartment no weirdo shit but i'm just saying in today's time that's super weirdo shit. That's super weird. You cannot just approach a stranger and talk to them today. There's a lot of Listen. It's tough. Check the women. Just listen to the women.
Starting point is 01:55:56 The women are saying like they are in fear of a random dude speaking to them because of the way niggas are acting in terms of rejection all kinds of other things. I'm looking the reverse women are even saying nigga don't talk to me like get you you peon get the fuck away from me see a lot of women can't say that ish they can't say no no but i'm gonna tell you there's a lot of women that if they say that niggas react yeah yeah that's true fuck out of
Starting point is 01:56:26 here now i'm getting disrespectful now i might put hands on you or worse that's true yeah y'all lucky i was too mature when that whole amber rose breakup happened with her with her baby daddy y'all lucky i was too mature there and amber's my friend so i would never really do not a friend but you know what i mean uh i would never really do a deep dive deer, but boy did I have a nice take on sluts. But for real, that's important because Amber was championing the sluts and then when a slut hit,
Starting point is 01:56:55 it's like, oh my God, how could you? You won't change, you won't let me. It's like, if we're championing sluts, we're championing your man
Starting point is 01:57:04 and leaving you for sluts so we gotta be careful with that but we skipped that one so we'll just continue to skip it shout out to Amber Amber's your peoples
Starting point is 01:57:11 yeah that's my girl I know did y'all see all the girls that's a shame did y'all see the young lady Brittany Renner's video
Starting point is 01:57:20 saying it's now stepdad season and she's on the search she posted that publicly she did yes she recorded herself saying it's now stepdad season and she's on the circuit. She posted that publicly. She did. Yes.
Starting point is 01:57:29 She recorded herself saying it and said, yo, it's stepdaddy season. You know, I'm looking for my next baby father. Round of applause. She leading into it. In the round of applause. Hey, it be stepmama season
Starting point is 01:57:40 till the baby moms say don't have no bitches around my kids. And she's like, all right. And that's what she said. Then it be like, all right, fine. In her video, she's like, yo, I want y'all to be don't have no bitches around my kids. And I'm like, alright. And that's what she said. Then it'd be like, alright, fine. In her video, she's like, yo, I want y'all to be around them. You can hug my kids. You can do whatever you want to do. I trust his judgment.
Starting point is 01:57:52 But I'ma do the same thing over here. She's like, I know it's ghetto. I know it's ghetto. But hey, so what? Fam, was she like that when y'all was cool? No comment. I have nothing to say on the topic of being cool. I know you were. fam was she like that when y'all was cool no comment I have nothing to say
Starting point is 01:58:07 on the topic yeah that's why I was I know you I was trying to talk to Isha about it you can't really listen I said what I had
Starting point is 01:58:12 to say on here some people heard it right she reached out she said some shit I responded like it was a it was a friendly exchange so I don't want to do
Starting point is 01:58:22 anything to unfriendly it yeah cause where I'm at at 41 is listen niggas need all the help we can get. Everybody. I don't remember her being so cool. I don't remember that. She used to be cool. Yeah, I don't remember that.
Starting point is 01:58:34 And I don't know that she's not cool anymore. Because I haven't been around, I haven't been in her presence. But the thing I be thinking when I see stuff like that is, like, I think of her first boyfriend, which is the dude That was a soccer player He wasn't famous He was foreign He was from somewhere else
Starting point is 01:58:49 And he thought he had him Like a good girl He might have That fame That clout The changes that come along With the fame But once a good girl's gone bad
Starting point is 01:58:58 That clout That fame Different man She's gone forever Is that true? Do we believe that? Yes You do?
Starting point is 01:59:02 And you do? Yes You do? I do She's gone forever When a good girl's gone bad Now that's a Patreon talk But we'll keep it going Forever. Is that true? Do we believe that? Yes. You do? And you do? Yes. You do? I do. She's gone forever when a good girl gone. Now that's a Patreon talk. But we'll keep it going.
Starting point is 01:59:10 Yeah. Because I know for a fact that's true. Joe, think about girls that we've known when they were green. I'm talking about green, man. Once they get a sample of the life, and we all know what life we're referring to, right? Dog, that shit is like a high. It's a high for men. I was about to say.
Starting point is 01:59:37 It's a high for men. I remember being in the street, and then you made a transition, and you go from that to being just a corny dude, square dude, right? I don't remember when I moved to Maryland. Nobody knew me in Maryland. And at home, I'm ish.
Starting point is 01:59:51 Everybody knows me. I could go anywhere I wanted. Yeah, but your name didn't ring bells out of town. I know. That's my point. That's what I'm telling you. It didn't have the ability. I know.
Starting point is 01:59:59 I know. I know. Nobody don't know Mal. How you cornball shit the fuck up, bro? Yo, your shit barely rung bells on the east side of Jersey City, nigga. Anyway, right? So, nah, Jay-Z talks about it in the song. Like, yo, the allure of the game keeps calling my name.
Starting point is 02:00:17 It's not about the money. It's about the notoriety. I know girls that literally started dating a star. And they came home and said, yo, I can't date a regular nigga no more yes right so again excuse me pardon me because they be dissing me for clearing my throat on the mic but yo you got to imagine if you're a girl coming from a lower income neighborhood or moderately income neighborhood and you start dating somebody that buys you this and buys you that and you could travel four or five times, six, seven times a year, right? Yep. It's hard to go back to normalcy. Yeah. Or what the world would look at as normal.
Starting point is 02:00:56 That's a very hard thing to do. It's hard to not be on that red carpet with that guy that's famous. Mm-hmm. Like, they get their own high from that. They sure do. You feel what I'm saying? Like, they get their own high from that They sure do You feel what I'm saying Like they get their own high from that Living in a nice crib
Starting point is 02:01:08 Going back to some regular shit Jay said that too Not to be cold He like yo In the New York song In the New York song He said good girls gone bad The city's filled with them
Starting point is 02:01:19 Like yo once they get a taste of that shit yo They can't go without that It's very few. They have to have like a traumatic experience for them to just say, yo, I'm not fucking with this type of dude no more. I'm going to go back over here to the nondescript dude. Some people do it, but it's very, very rare. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:36 It's very rare. And then the entitlement part comes in too. Like, yo, I've gotten to this type of dude. I've dated this guy, this guy, this guy. You need to be honored that I'm dating you. Yeah, that's true. I'm doing you a favor now. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 02:01:47 Because I come from this circle now. That is true. Nigga got a 20,000 square foot house overlooking Biscayne Bay. Nigga, you need to be happy I'm over here in your little 5,000 square foot something. They feel like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:05 I mean... No comment. No, I ain't even talking about her. I'm just saying, like... Period. That's where we are. That's what we are today. So, back to...
Starting point is 02:02:13 Look, look how it comes right back around. You in a supermarket with a female that got on... Well, you didn't even say nothing about her bag. I'm sure the bag was something. It was there, yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:23 She has damn near 100 grand on her body. It's true. At one day. Grocery shopping at 12 o'clock at night. Right. She got 100 grand worth of material items on. What could the fucking accountant say to her?
Starting point is 02:02:38 How's your books look? You get what I'm saying? That has to be intimidating for most men. Yeah. It has to be. And again, this nigga's a monster in his day. For him to feel that, imagine. I mean, Drake said it in Marvin's room.
Starting point is 02:02:58 He said, yo, I don't think I'm conscious out of making monsters out of the women I sponsor until it all goes bad. Like, that's it. I don't realize what I'm doing to them. No, Drake is purposely doing it. You right. You right. No, you right. He might be.
Starting point is 02:03:14 He might be doing shit if you want to. He might be. Nah, I don't know about that. He purposely doing it. Drake back then. I was about to say, maybe back then. I don't know. Yeah, he might be trying to protect his energy today.
Starting point is 02:03:24 Back then? Yeah. You know what I'm saying might be trying to protect his energy today. Back then? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He was doing that shit and rubbing it in niggas' faces. Yo, the girl, the love of your life will never speak to you again. It's like, oh, okay. I took her to, yeah. Wherever.
Starting point is 02:03:37 Wherever. Fill in the blank. No, that was the thing. I took her to Mars. Again. Ross said this shit like, yo, you fucking broke niggas now. Like, you can't even have that stigma
Starting point is 02:03:46 attached to you. Like, that's... Chicks don't want to fuck a broke nigga, but let's move on. That's a big time. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:03:51 all right, let's leave it at that. Let's move on. Savant, Justin Bieber won Artist of the Year at the VMAs. Savant went crazy.
Starting point is 02:04:00 You agreed with that one? Yes, sir, you did. He agreed. Stood up in it. You've been a... Who are the other candidates?
Starting point is 02:04:09 It don't matter. It don't matter. Let's slow down. The VMAs occurred two nights ago. They did. I only knew because people I was trying to party with had some shit to do. They're going to the VMAs. New York to do. They're going to the VMAs. New York was lit this week.
Starting point is 02:04:25 Going to the VMAs. New York has been lit this entire month. Right. And the rest of the month. And I'm going to be outside. And don't text me about it. Right. Don't text me about it.
Starting point is 02:04:36 I'm out. I'm out. And I'm just telling you now. I ain't even lying about it. Yeah, I'm out. Yo, the VMAs, the Met Gala. Fashion week. The VMAs took their little hot asses over to Brooklyn.
Starting point is 02:04:48 With a Manhattan show. Yeah. They took that Manhattan ass show to the Barclays. I didn't watch it. I watched it. I saw some of it. I didn't watch it. And in their defense, Brooklyn is Manhattan now.
Starting point is 02:05:04 Don't do that to Brooklyn. Don't do that to Brooklyn. Don't do that to Brooklyn. Don't do that to Brooklyn. Brooklyn is not Manhattan now watch it. And in their defense, Brooklyn is Manhattan now. Don't do that to Brooklyn. Don't do that to Brooklyn. Don't do that to Brooklyn. Don't do that to Brooklyn. Brooklyn is not Manhattan now. Okay. Don't do that to Brooklyn. Bam.
Starting point is 02:05:11 There's some parts of Brooklyn that are pretty Manhattan. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. Not me. There's also some parts of Brooklyn you won't find in Manhattan nowhere. No question. Agreed. No question.
Starting point is 02:05:20 Agreed. They still there. No question. I'm saying there's parts of Brooklyn they can take that there. It's the same It's the Manhattan Still not Not to me
Starting point is 02:05:29 Brooklyn has its own identity dog Yo fam I don't want to argue with y'all about Brooklyn Okay What has Justin Bieber done this year? I also don't want to feel like I'm getting Justin Bieber hate out Nah he got But I got a point I'm getting to
Starting point is 02:05:42 Peaches is a big song Yo Not cut the fuck off It is Cut the fuck Peaches is a big song. Yo... Knock the fuck off. It is a big song. Knock the fuck off. It is a big song. Is that the... Where?
Starting point is 02:05:49 Where? Then pull it up. You don't like Justin Bieber. No, no, no. Forget about... That's a huge song. But I can have an objective conversation. I've heard that song.
Starting point is 02:05:54 When you say... I don't care about what you heard it. Peaches is one song that's charting where? Show me. Pull it up. Maybe I'm missing something. Peaches is one record. We also have the Essence remix
Starting point is 02:06:13 that all of us slammed. Too much. And we slammed that shit. It deserved to be slammed. Nobody asked for this little white boy on Essence. Peaches is double platinum and peaked at number one on all of the turds.
Starting point is 02:06:27 Awesome. What else then? Smarty pants. Too much. Since you want to put your little white cape on. What else happened? I don't like Justin Bieber.
Starting point is 02:06:34 What else happened? I do. What else happened? Go to too much. I like him, but what else happened? Hold On was number four. What is that?
Starting point is 02:06:41 Stay is number one. Wait, what's Hold On? What's Hold On? What's Hold On? I don't know one of his other songs. So you don't know that song? I don't know that song. You know that song? It's a hit. It's a top ten hit. Stop. Stay is number one. Wait, what's Hold On? What's Hold On? What's Hold On? I don't know one of his other songs. So you don't know that song? I don't know that song. You know that song?
Starting point is 02:06:47 It's a hit. It's a top ten hit. Stop. Park, stop. I will not let you do that. I could buy a fucking top ten hit. Do you know these records that you just naming? No, but you asked him to go look.
Starting point is 02:06:59 Now he went to go look. I know. So now we're advancing the conversation. He looked. That's what he's supposed to do. He's naming records and saying, hey, this peaked at four. This peaked at one.
Starting point is 02:07:07 Do you know these records? I would probably know them. I know Peaches. Do you know the other ones? I don't listen to Bobby's. I know too much. Me neither, so let's play them. Whatever it is, Parks, find it.
Starting point is 02:07:17 Play it so we can see. Maybe we're just on ill form. I don't think that's a good gauge if we know the records, though. Yes, it is. Us? Yeah. If we know the records. No, we're not the gauge of the VMAs. We're a good gauge if we know the records, though. Yes, it is. Us? Yeah. If we know the records.
Starting point is 02:07:26 No, we're not the gauge of the VMAs. We're not the gauge of the VMAs. No, no, no. But I want to know what the VMAs was looking at. That's what I want to know. Wait. I want to hear it. You're not a Justin Bieber fan.
Starting point is 02:07:35 I'm a Justin Bieber fan. I'm not new Justin Bieber. No, I'm saying Ice. Ice is not a Justin Bieber fan. So if the song comes on and you know it, then you know his fans adore it. Okay. Yes? It's like me.
Starting point is 02:07:44 If I know some shit about 42 know his fans adore it. Okay. Yes? It's like me. If I know some shit about 42 Doug, that's not my bag. But if I know it, then that means it's crossed over to me. Should Justin Bieber be artist of the year? Yes. In comparison to who else was nominated. You don't even know the other nominees. I can read. I got eyes.
Starting point is 02:07:59 Over who? Pull them up. Ariana Grande, Doja Cat, Meg Thee Stallion, Olivia Rodrigo, and Taylor Swift. Now, let me ask y'all again. Should Justin Bieber win Artist of the Year? Say yes. I dare you. I say yes.
Starting point is 02:08:13 Now that we read the name. Over that? You say yes. I kind of say yes. You say yes. In that list, I see it. Oh, then I shut up. I see it.
Starting point is 02:08:19 In that list, I see it. Oh, then I shut up. I take it. I have nothing to say. I think you niggas is crackheads. Why? We heard Justin Bieber's name once this year. That's not true.
Starting point is 02:08:31 You did. You not a fan. I am a fan. I am a fan. But I am a fan. Don't say I'm not a fan. I am a fan. I'm a Justin Bieber fan.
Starting point is 02:08:39 I gave you three or four songs that have been in the top ten that have peaked at once. And my response to that was, you can buy that. You can. I'm not disagreeing. So then that's not a rhetorical... Then you can buy one too, Joe. Wait, so can Tella Swift.
Starting point is 02:08:51 And that's what the fuck happened, but I want to have a real conversation about it. When you tell me these other songs peaked at four and one, and we do a pod, this is six months now,
Starting point is 02:08:59 half a year that we've been here. This is the pod. We've been here. We've been talking. We have discussed Justin Bieber how many times? With music. A couple. Y'all been here six This is the pod. We've been here. We've been talking. We have discussed Justin Bieber how many times? With music. A couple.
Starting point is 02:09:08 Y'all been here six months. A couple. A couple. Essence. Peaches. Peaches. And the album. And his album with that nasty Martin Luther King insert.
Starting point is 02:09:17 Uh-huh. Y'all felt like the times we talked about him here. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you a question. Get your shit off. How many times we discussed the other names on here? How many times we discussed Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande?
Starting point is 02:09:28 We're four men. We're four men. We just talking about music, Joe. Can't do that. We're four men. Can't do that. Can't do that. How many times we discussed SZA?
Starting point is 02:09:36 We are four men. How many times we discussed her? SZA is a lot. A lot. I've talked about it a lot. How many times we discussed Snow? A lot. We've not discussed fucking...
Starting point is 02:09:46 The only reason I know about Olivia Rodrigo is because when her album came out, you discussed it about R.I.M. You and R.I.M. loved it, right? We have not discussed Taylor Swift. We've discussed Meg. No. See, and I knew that's when your voice
Starting point is 02:09:59 would start to speed up a little bit. No, no, no. I'm still going. Stay on Meg. No, I didn't even get to Meg. I went to Taylor Swift. We've discussed Meg. You got it, Olivia. I got it still going we stay on meg no i i didn't even get to meg i went to tell us with we've discussed the mag olivia i got it let's stay on we discussed meg a lot a lot not a lot not really for music a lot you were saying meg has got got low and wasn't gonna put out another album but no no i said that about cardi meg meg Meg announced, I'm laying low. She took the break. And then she came back.
Starting point is 02:10:26 But without that break, and that break was short-lived, there was mad records. Mad records that Meg has released this year that people would argue, hey, when the other award shows come up, I guarantee you she wins one for Artist of the Year. But wait, but wait, because I'm not arguing for Meg. I know.
Starting point is 02:10:44 I'm not even arguing for Meg. I'm arguing somebody that I would never come on here and beat y'all down about because we have a podcast of four niggas. That's the only other name I would argue.
Starting point is 02:10:55 When I leave this podcast, Doja Cat gets all the burn. She is. I'm just going to be honest with y'all. She is. And she's had all the looks. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:11:04 She's, yes. I'm a 41-year-old nigga. She's becoming a star. All of that Nicki Minaj shit, all of that little kid girly shit, the pop shit, it don't work on me. Doja has it. I probably have never said that here because I won't come in here and just rep for the little girl. Oh, I've been repping for Doja. No, Ice has been.
Starting point is 02:11:22 Doja Cat, to me, maybe it's my guilt. Because you a coon, too. But Doja Cat, to me, her last album, whenever it came out, is an album of the year candidate. Y'all Doja fans said it wasn't her best product. It's not. I'm not the biggest Doja fan. I just know the girl's killing shit, so I listen to it. That album is fire.
Starting point is 02:11:44 I don't know what y'all heard. It's not that it's not fire. It's not her best product from a Doja fan. I just know this girl's killing shit, so I listen to it. That album is fire. I don't know what y'all heard. It's not that it's not fire. It's not her best product from a Doja fan. It's better than shit that came out, number one. Number two, she had the best fucking meme song, too. If we go on the internet, I'll wait. Streets. You need me to play it?
Starting point is 02:12:00 No. I'm waiting for you to make your point. He's saying that she should have gotten it's she should have gotten there's on under no how that's the only other name i would argue for the matter of opinion it's a matter of opinion i get it my thing is what matrix are we gonna go by you have any of them you have parts just named you four songs that the man had in the top i know the person we can't use that well no no that's not true you can use it but in contact you can use you have to use it but you have to use it. But in contact, you can use it. You have to use it.
Starting point is 02:12:26 You have to use it. So don't bring up the purchasing part then. No, and this. Because then you're discrediting whatever matrix we can go by. No, we're having an advanced conversation. We're hitting the advanced analytics button. That stuff matters where your records peaked at and charted at. So I'm never saying that shouldn't count. My question was, what my question was, hey, what song is that so I can learn?
Starting point is 02:12:44 Because off name, I don't know the song. That don't mean that they didn't take 30 million, dump it in here, and we was number one all across Rhythmic, Top 40, and Urban.
Starting point is 02:12:54 I know about four of those songs. I don't listen to radio, so I'm not, hey, play the song, and then I'ma see. I'ma see. You know too much. But I didn't know.
Starting point is 02:13:02 Parks didn't know. Y'all didn't know. And here we didn't know I know some of those songs Ish said he knows a couple of those That Hold On record That he said peaked at four You know too much
Starting point is 02:13:10 What's too much? Too much, too much I don't You know I can't say You know too much If it comes on right now You're gonna know it Guaranteed you're gonna know it
Starting point is 02:13:18 Parks is killing it This song was Which one is this? This is Anyone This hit number two Dance with me under the diamonds. I've never heard this. Fam.
Starting point is 02:13:28 Stop it. Yo, I'm not this stupid. Turn this off. I've never heard that. Nobody ever heard it. You've heard too much. Play too much. No, no, but wait.
Starting point is 02:13:35 But let's stop and let's have the conversation. My response is this way because nobody heard that. They paid for that. They paid for that. They paid for that. Give me the next one.
Starting point is 02:13:46 Too much? No, that was too much. Hold on. Hold on. I want to hear what hold on is. I know the audience tell me I hate Bieber. I don't.
Starting point is 02:13:54 I don't. I hate that he harmonized nigga. And I hate that he's doing all this black shit and taking pictures with his black godchildren and all that. But journals,
Starting point is 02:14:04 journals too. Company, Travis Scott listen purpose oh wait company is fucking a trick fam
Starting point is 02:14:13 hold on hold on you know you can call me if you need someone oh they bought this turn this off man they bought that I've never heard that
Starting point is 02:14:21 none of y'all ever heard it so that's my point like yes you heard that one yes these records charted and yes they charted high cause that's my point. Yes, you heard that one? Yes, these records charted. And yes, they charted high because that's Beavs and that's the attention that he demands. I just want to hear it so I know what that one is. Justin Bieber should not be artist of the year over Meg Thee Stallion and Doja Cat.
Starting point is 02:14:35 I say over Meg. I do. Maybe not Doja Cat. I don't say it. He ain't had nowhere near the grease. She cooking with grease, nigga. Nah. And we four dudes, but she not for play.
Starting point is 02:14:47 Go ahead. Hold on. What is Too Much? It's like the number one or two song on the joint. Man, get this nigga to fuck up. You've heard the song. Hey, Biebs, give that award to Doja Cat. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 02:14:58 Do the Macklemore. Give that award away, because that is some bullshit. You got to do the same thing, though. If you're going to say that, right? Hear me out. I have every Doja Cat song. I'll play it. Wait.
Starting point is 02:15:08 What I'm saying is, and this is the thing with music. This is too much. This is the thing with music. It says it's playing. Some of the shit transcends our audience and our demo. So we don't listen. I listen to Z100. I listen to KTU.
Starting point is 02:15:22 A lot of times, you might not listen to that song. I remember you arguing with Kais Speaking of Kais Way to the hook and all that You've heard this song I haven't heard it so far What song was the name of the song? This is too much
Starting point is 02:15:38 Fam Yo fam I know how the music business works I don't need to hear this Like We can have the argument Just for the sake of it No you've heard this.
Starting point is 02:15:45 None of these records get him Artist of the Year. No other awards show but the BMAs. I remember you arguing on Mike Kaiser. This is 10 years ago.
Starting point is 02:15:54 And you were arguing about Turn it down a little bit. Where's my man from Miami? The big dude with the muscles. That doesn't help. Flo Rida? Flo Rida. Okay.
Starting point is 02:16:02 I remember you arguing about Flo Rida. He's that dude. And he wasn't on Hot 97 at allida he's that dude and he wasn't on Hot 97 at all he's that dude though and he was the man with no Hot 97 burn
Starting point is 02:16:09 because his demo wasn't us big muscly black dude with gold chains on but his demo wasn't us and I remember you arguing with Mike Kizer
Starting point is 02:16:18 about him saying there's no way he's doing what they're saying he's doing and you were arguing with Mike Kizer saying there's no way in hell that he's doing what they're saying he's doing. And you will argue on Mike Kaza saying there's no way in hell that he's doing what they're saying he's doing.
Starting point is 02:16:27 Ignorance. And Mike Kaza told you, fail. Ignorance. Turn on Z100. Ignorance. And you'll see what he's doing. Total ignorance.
Starting point is 02:16:33 So I'm agreeing. So I'm just saying it could be applicable to this because he's not necessarily our demo. Like the Peaches record was for us. Let me respond to that. Doja Cat's not my demo. No.
Starting point is 02:16:47 She's urban. No, she's not. She's not my demo. She's not my demo. She's closer to urban demo. And honestly, I could say she is your demo. Justin Bieber making a record saying, I get my Peaches from Georgia is a nigga that's trying to target my 41-year-old black ass.
Starting point is 02:17:01 I totally agree. Doja Cat don't have no record that I'm supposed to shake my ass to. However, however though, see, records like this was never supposed to get in front of my shit. You ever heard this? No. You ever heard this album cut? It's an album cut.
Starting point is 02:17:18 Who knows? But when this come on, see, hold up. When you win Artist of the Year. You're cheating. I want to hear the song. Oh, I'm sorry. All right, see, hold up. When you win artist of the year. You're cheating. I want to hear the song. Oh, I'm sorry. All right, I'm just kidding. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:28 Want to know what it's like. What it's like. I don't really got no tights. I don't want to fuck all night. In the event that you ever step out-ish with the young chicks, it works. Baby. What do you know? Let it go.
Starting point is 02:17:42 Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. It's a box. Yo. Can y'all stop? You're proving my point. I don't even know what to do I'm a fetishizer I've got a lot of time Baby, can you tell me Can you prove, you're proving my point But let the record play like you asked And then give me your point, give it to me
Starting point is 02:17:54 Let me just let a little more rock You asked to hear the record and then I I heard it, I heard it now You ain't hear enough nigga Bye bye, got nobody to say I'm gonna shake to you Whoa, whoa, whoa. Your shoulders gonna. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:06 Where's it going? Come on. Yo, man. I don't want it. The peaches what? Yeah, say whatever, man. I'm going to piss. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:18:14 You cheating. You got to sit here. Hold up. Yeah. I got to pee. I'm peeing on myself. Go ahead. All right.
Starting point is 02:18:18 It ain't the first time. What you doing is saying that. Listen. I don't know this song. Parks, you ever heard this song? Ice, you ever heard this song? Ice, you ever heard this song? Yes, I know this record. All right.
Starting point is 02:18:26 Oh, you're a Doja Cat fan. I forgot. Pardon me. What I'm saying is the same way you played the Justin Bieber songs and we didn't know them is the same way we don't know this song either. Not true-ish. And let me help you out. Parks named records that charted number one and number four on Billboard and we didn't
Starting point is 02:18:41 know them. I'm playing an album cut. And one person heard it. I'm playing an album cut and one person heard it i'm playing an album all her projects he's a fan i'm playing an album cut that sort of went and if you play it in your circles somebody will have heard it is all i'm saying he's playing songs that niggas paid to chart nobody where we are from joe that that's not fair. That's not fair. Let's move on, man. I don't care.
Starting point is 02:19:06 Y'all always make me seem like a Bieber hater. None of y'all bought more Bieber than me. You're actually hating right now. It's not about Bieber. It's not about Bieber. That's not fair. They are buying awards, and they are buying billboard placements.
Starting point is 02:19:20 That's possible. The end. And if you think I don't know that. That's true. That's possible. That's true. So end. And if you think I don't know that. That's true. That's possible. That's true. So what are you telling me? I'm saying I could tell this was purchased.
Starting point is 02:19:30 I'm saying that Biebs has not had that impactful of a year over Doja, who I couldn't avoid. I've been trying to ignore this little nigga. Again. I've been trying to not see no Doja. She had the same race shit he had. I'm trying to ignore her. Guess what? Every 29-year-old that come through, it's on.
Starting point is 02:19:48 It's on. That's the part you missing right there, Joe. No, that's the part that you missing right here. I got you. This is the part you missing. I don't want to hear from you no more. Now you got me. You're wrong.
Starting point is 02:19:54 Now you got me. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong, Joe. Wrong in what? You're wrong. Wrong in what? It's about demo.
Starting point is 02:20:00 I've only said one thing. It's about demo. But you're saying the people that you hang around heard these records. That's true. Guess what? That's a demo. It's one demo. That's about demo. I've only said one thing. It's about demo. But you're saying the people that you hang around heard these records. That's true. Guess what? That's a demo. It's one demo. That's one demo.
Starting point is 02:20:10 And you don't hang out that much. She targets that demo, Joe. You don't hang out that much. That's awesome for attacking that one point that you're able to attack. My main point is Justin Bieber has not had an artist of the year year. That's my point. So you can argue with me about Doja Cat. I'm agreeing with you.
Starting point is 02:20:23 Then what the fuck are we disagreeing about then? He has not had an artist of a great artist of the year. So then why is he artist of the year? He's been in Pat. To that list? He's been in Pat.
Starting point is 02:20:32 I'm not mad at him. To what list? I don't think those are the right nominees. Man, get him the fuck. Who's the nominees that you be there then? Meg shouldn't be there.
Starting point is 02:20:40 Rock Nation every other day is spending to get her everywhere in the world. She shouldn't be there. She should. Justin day is spending to get her everywhere in the world. She shouldn't be there. She should. Justin Bieber. Does he put an album out this year? Yes.
Starting point is 02:20:50 I know. You loved it? I didn't like Justin Bieber. But this is not the demo for Justin Bieber. And the VMAs is not the demographic for us or the people that you a fan of. Bigger than that. It's the Video Music Awards. I wonder what the pattern is.
Starting point is 02:21:07 Like the month cut off for the video. Oh yeah, the demo. That's even more interesting. That's big too. That matters because if that's the case then... Meg is a star, right?
Starting point is 02:21:16 But you can't tell me that she transcends all demographics like Justin Bieber. You can't. No, you can't. They trying to put her there. I said, yo, I tweeted it. She's on her way. I'll say it. You can't. No, you can't. They trying to put her there. I said, yo, I tweeted it.
Starting point is 02:21:27 And I'll say it. I tweeted it. I said, yo, Doja Cat is who they trying to make shorty out to be. I ain't even watching. Check this out. I'm not trying to change nobody, mine, or nothing. If you think I'm a Bieber hater. That was a quick piss.
Starting point is 02:21:40 If you think I'm a Bieber hater, then then i'm not even looking at it so be it what i'm saying is this i don't care who disagrees with me either y'all can make y'all points i've been the lone nigga on the island before i can tell when we ain't really kicked it with niggas. And we kick it here twice a year, twice a week, for a year. We ain't talked about this nigga's album, single, it has been to ridicule him, right?
Starting point is 02:22:16 Or, you know what I've talked about as a constant with him? Is how he is fucking biting black culture. From Peaches to God Kids to the fucking album insert. That's what I've said here. So my issue is when you white ass award shows start celebrating white. All we doing is celebrating white.
Starting point is 02:22:40 From a white that has gone out of his way the entire year to bite a black. I'm not asking you all to agree with that take. I have said that every month about Justin Bieber this year, this year. Because when he get in his bag, when he go get with the writers, he going to out-song you niggas. Can I ask you a question real quick? But in his downtime, no, the white great's got to be great too. Joe, one thing.
Starting point is 02:23:03 Let me finish my fucking point. Finish your point. No, the white great's got to be great too. Joe, one thing. Let me finish my fucking point, please. Finish your point. Finish your point. Justin Timberlake's great white ass can't just go run in the woods and get an album of the year. No. Go get with Timbaland. Go get with Fauntleroy.
Starting point is 02:23:17 Get with your niggas. He was with all of them on that album, by the way. Well, it failed. Well, get with them and make great music then. Because Man in the Woods wasn't it. I agree. Unless you want to defend that to continue to step on my point. The fuck out of here with this shit. Enough of it.
Starting point is 02:23:30 Hey, believe what you want. When I see it, I read right through this shit. There is no way on God's green earth that Justin Bieber is Artist of the Year. He won't be nominated when the BET Awards come up. Why do you think is that? Excuse me? Why do you think that is? No, nigga, why do you think? Don't ask me.
Starting point is 02:23:49 I already said it. Now y'all say now. I can tell you. Number one, none of those people will be nominated for the BET Awards. You're wrong. And Doja will. And Doja will. Can I finish? Two out of six people will be nominated on the BET Awards. Two out of six. will be nominated on a BET awards,
Starting point is 02:24:05 two out of six. So that opens up the door for four more new candidates that are appreciated and targeted toward the black demo. Why? Why you say that? You think you'll ever see Taylor Swift with a BET award? I think I'm asking a question. Yes or no.
Starting point is 02:24:23 Maybe. No, you won't. I don't know that. She hasn't. She had some of the biggest songs... Taylor Swift has had big enough years to where she won one nobody
Starting point is 02:24:31 with bad a fucking eye. Yeah, they will. And yet she's still... Yes, they will. Yes, they will. I don't want to have this talk with y'all. The BET awards and the VMAs are owned by the same people.
Starting point is 02:24:39 One is targeted to white people. One is targeted to black people. I'm saying that the lines shouldn't be so blurred. No, you saying correct. I'm arguing against that. I'm saying that the lines shouldn't be so blurred. No, you saying correct. I'm arguing against that. I'm arguing against it like I argue.
Starting point is 02:24:49 Stop. I'm arguing against it like I argue against pop and urban category. I just want to ask you one question. Forget all that. I want to ask you one question. Can both things be true? What? The fact that, yes, they paying for the awards, they paying for this, they paying for that, but I mean, they're paying for his records to be big charting etc
Starting point is 02:25:05 and he still have had a bigger year than them he didn't have a bigger year than them no he didn't have a bigger year than Taylor Swift no I don't know about Taylor Swift
Starting point is 02:25:12 I'm talking about the people I'm arguing for he did not have a he had a bigger year than Meg to me no he didn't to me that's to you
Starting point is 02:25:18 that's not true I'll be a it means that it's how's that that's hell cause he didn't
Starting point is 02:25:25 under no metric did he have a bigger year unless you want to talk about the things that they bought with a bigger budget.
Starting point is 02:25:30 Not impact, not tour, not songs, not slang, not memes. You got to understand if his impact on the
Starting point is 02:25:38 white community was bigger than Meg's, you can't make that determination. You can't. Got it. I think what I
Starting point is 02:25:44 think. I know. You can think that. It can be your opinion. You can. I think what I think. No, you don't think what I think. I know. Yeah, no, you can think that. It could be your opinion. You can be your opinion. That's it. I don't want to argue my opinion.
Starting point is 02:25:49 That's my opinion. Y'all can have yours. Y'all can sing this nigga's praises to the day comes dry. I'm not praising. Is that what we do? I don't like this nigga. Yes, that's what y'all doing.
Starting point is 02:25:55 Y'all doing it with this bullshit album that didn't get nowhere. He had to bring a whole bunch of black niggas on and start talking about peaches from fucking Atlanta, but he's Artist of the Year? Suck my dick, nigga. Dog.
Starting point is 02:26:04 The fuck out of here. Knock it off. Tell it to somebodyuck my dick, nigga. Dog. Get the fuck out of here. Knock it off. Tell it to somebody else. Yo, bro. Tell it to somebody who want to listen. Your opinion don't got to be the stand-all truth. That's true.
Starting point is 02:26:11 All right. So again, he can reach motherfuckers that Meg Thee Stallion can't. And if you disagree with that, and if you disagree with that, then you are a total on a bias rant.
Starting point is 02:26:22 That nigga can reach motherfuckers that Meg Thee Stallion cannot. And the VMAs know it. How do you know that? But he didn't. How do you know that? But he didn't. It's somebody in Wyoming that will listen to him that won't listen to Meg Thee fucking Stallion.
Starting point is 02:26:33 Wyoming? And if you want to break it down into- You think Wyoming is dictating the artist of the year? No, now we can get into numbers. Is that what you're telling me? We can get into numbers. We can get into numbers. And 70% of the United States is white.
Starting point is 02:26:43 So if you want to go by just that alone, nigga, he can transcend shit that she can't. But she did. So say you. Not say me. So say you. So show the numbers then, Joe. Not say me. So say you.
Starting point is 02:26:54 But not say me. Let's pull up Alvarez. Magdalene has not transcended the black audience. Is that what you said? I didn't say that at all. Stop putting words in my mouth. I said that she can't reach as many motherfuckers across the United States as him. That's what I said.
Starting point is 02:27:09 She's transcended the black audience. I didn't say she did not. Again, you are not. I don't understand what you're saying here. Man, let's move on. He is white. You're too smart for this. You are too smart.
Starting point is 02:27:17 I know you're too smart for arguing a race point. The white little boy, that harmonized nigga, yes, he can reach more people than this little black girl that's my point is that what you're arguing with me i'm not arguing that point so again you can't say that he can't win artist of the year if he's reaching more people than she is can't no i would never say that because he obviously won i'm saying that me whose job it is to stay in aligned with the pulse of the culture Don't see no way That Meg That Meg Thee Stallion And Doja Cat Don't beat Justin Bieber
Starting point is 02:27:48 With that whack ass Peaches shit With black boys From Atlanta And with him putting Martin Luther King In his album insert And with him doing
Starting point is 02:27:56 All the shit Reaching and grasping For the attention Of black people All year long All year long You're right with all of that You're right
Starting point is 02:28:04 He did that I just want to say To that Joe I know but the artist Of the year long. You're right with all of that. You're right with all of that. You're right. He did that. I just want to say to that, Joe. I know, but the artist of the year, I don't feel like you do all that. The VMAs artist of the year ain't just consistent on what applies to the culture that you just spoke to. And that's where we disagree. The VMAs do what the fuck we say. Who's we?
Starting point is 02:28:18 Who is we? You beat me to the question. Culture. It's several different cultures in the United States, Joe. Oh, God. I'm done with Joe. I'm finished. They do what they want.
Starting point is 02:28:28 Hey, he won't be nominated to BET Awards. I don't expect him to be nominated to BET Awards, Joe. Oh, so then there's no point in us even arguing because we only talking race then. That was your point. That's not the point. You're talking to this white kid stealing black shit. Get celebrated for it. No, no, no, no, Ice. That's Joe's point. You're talking to this white kid stealing black shit. No, no, no, no, Ice. Get celebrated for it. No, no, no, no, Ice.
Starting point is 02:28:46 That's Joe's point. So let's be concise. My point is this is race. You are saying, no, don't thank you on my point. I didn't say thank you. I said yes, that's your point. My point is musically, he has done enough to where this is possible. And if that is true, then why wouldn't he be nominated at the BET Awards?
Starting point is 02:29:06 They're owned by the same people. Because these are... If he did enough musically, like you telling me... Stop, stop, stop, Joe. Stop, stop. All right, let's move on. Come on.
Starting point is 02:29:12 No, wait. You just said... Let's go. You just said it shouldn't be the case. Don't worry. Yeah, because you were... Don't worry. Don't worry.
Starting point is 02:29:18 Don't worry about it. Because I don't care that much. What you looking for? His headphones. He threw the headphones. He's going behind the couch. You know what I'm saying looking for? His headphones. He do that most. He's going behind the couch. You know,
Starting point is 02:29:27 stupid ass. Because we have these heated debates and people feel like I'm more invested than I am. I don't care who won this award.
Starting point is 02:29:35 Y'all can't tell me Justin Bieber is artist of the year. Y'all can feel like that but just don't tell me. I'm not trying to get y'all to change your mind. But he ain't
Starting point is 02:29:44 artist of the year nowhere in Wyoming let's go to Wyoming you out when this was out? was you out when this was out? did anybody hear this? nobody heard this no way huh I I know. Don't worry about it. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.
Starting point is 02:30:09 I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.
Starting point is 02:30:17 I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. This was a meme of the year.
Starting point is 02:30:42 It sounds great. It was a best friend was her biggest like internet year. It sounds great. Best friend was her biggest internet meme thing. Best friend was Sweetie. Best friend was Sweetie. Listen, man. I probably know that. Doja Cat. I love you.
Starting point is 02:30:54 I love Doja Cat. I love you. And they robbed you. But it's okay. She crushed the little hosting job, though. She did a good job. They robbed her. Her entire team knows it.
Starting point is 02:31:05 They had to make her feel better after that. That was a travesty. That was a travesty. We can argue it because we do a pod, and it's the point of a pod. But no way in the world Doja Cat didn't think she would win that. I think she won some other awards, though. So congratulations on those wins. Yeah, but give her the ones she's supposed to win.
Starting point is 02:31:19 Can I ask you a question real quick about the VMAs? Who from our culture performed at the VMAs? Busta Rhymes. Busta Rhymes. Who else? Splitshtar. your question real quick about the vms who from our culture performed at the vms buster rimes who else it's just my point to saying that is that's not geared towards us in our culture bro you said it and you you said it and then you said that that shouldn't be the way it is but it's the truth that there's two cultures that both networks owned by the, I mean, both award shows and channels owned by the same network cater to. We know this. And that's it.
Starting point is 02:31:53 Bieber's not performing at the BET Awards, and I don't think he's going to be nominated at the BET Awards. It's going to be people from our culture. That's for us. Not saying it's right. That's what it is. And yes, to them, he is a big artist. And was artist of the year. Hold up, Ice, for a second.
Starting point is 02:32:11 Let me hear this. Okay, first, first, I want to say, I want to say thank you to the Gay and Gender. Let's go, Gay and Gender! Lil Nas X, thank you. Mr. Randy! Thank you, speech. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:26 Nobody got nothing to say now. Randy! Thank you for your speech. Yeah. You know what? I got nothing to say now. No, I have something to say. I was waiting for you to go first. I definitely got something to say. I went first. I played something. This bitch ass.
Starting point is 02:32:34 I'm going to... Listen. All right, what do we know about Lil Nas X? Let's... He's artist of the year. Hold on. Strip that. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 02:32:41 I'm going to say this. Hold on. Hold on. Because this is what I've been thinking about Lil Nas X for a minute we know this guy got his start
Starting point is 02:32:50 as a Nicki Minaj stan slash troll and he's trolled his way up this far yes I didn't know
Starting point is 02:32:56 that he was a Nicki Minaj yeah yeah yeah his original page was Nas Mirage you know how they all use the Mirage
Starting point is 02:33:02 yeah that was originally his page Nicki Minaj stan trolled trolled his way trolled just built You know how they all use the Mirage. Yeah, that was originally his page. Huh. Nicki Minaj stan. Troll. Troll this way. Troll just built his following off being a Nicki Minaj stan. Switched it over.
Starting point is 02:33:13 Changed the name. Deleted the old tweets. He put one of the moves. Okay. This is all factual. Proven. I don't even think this dude's gay. And it's not an to attack or anything.
Starting point is 02:33:26 I'm just, as a former troll, I see what a troll is. And if I'm to pick a troll that I could work and make a full career out of and nobody can question without being tagged. Hey, Lil Nas ain't gay, man. Lil Nas ain't gay. I don't think so. I'm with Ice on this one.
Starting point is 02:33:43 I think he's trolling He's fooling y'all He's tricking us And y'all eating it up He's fucking vagina I don't believe it Maybe so I don't believe it no more
Starting point is 02:33:52 I don't What was the What was the thing that changed you? This is my thing Well we went up there And said what I've been No no no Secretly thinking to myself
Starting point is 02:34:01 Oh we're riding the gay agenda To success When he said it I was like oh okay I see how that makes sense And oh, we're riding the gay agenda to success. When he said it, I was like, oh, okay. I see how that makes sense. And then you add that to the fact that this is a known troll. I think both things could be true. He could be gay and he's trolling it.
Starting point is 02:34:15 Or the other side is, yo, let me pop out. This kid's mastered the internet. I don't give a fuck what he does with his dick, man. I don't care. I don't care. He's doing what I say I want to do all the time. Yes. Just come out the closet, be gay, get support,
Starting point is 02:34:29 not have to deal with these straight motherfuckers anymore. I say that all the time on here, but I'm straight, so it fails. But if I could, look at this. Come on, I'd do that same dance. Or whatever he just did. He's just doing the fucking entry-level gay moves. Entry-level gay? He ain't did nothing.
Starting point is 02:34:44 He didn't really take one and let me know what's going on. Say, Vaugh level gay. He ain't did nothing. Like he didn't really take one and let me know what's going on. He's doing a little. Say Von, you writing right? Yo, he's doing an entry level. Yo fam.
Starting point is 02:34:51 Lil Nas X is my guy. But all of that. I love what he's doing. Just because I like trolling the industry. I love that shit. Nah, final,
Starting point is 02:34:59 final loophole and exploited. Fuck these people. Duh. Again, I don't have nothing against gay people at all. Zero. This has nothing to do with gay people. This is not about gays. let me finish. Let me finish please. This is not about g again, I don't have nothing against gay people at all. Zero. This has nothing to do with gays.
Starting point is 02:35:05 No, let me finish. Let me finish, please. This is not about gays. I don't want to let you finish. The gay people are dissing him. The gay people are dissing him because he's basically trying to force feed you
Starting point is 02:35:16 this agenda. So now you ask... When you get up there and you don't thank God, you don't thank your parents, you don't thank nobody, the first thing that comes out your mouth is
Starting point is 02:35:24 thank you to the gay agenda. It's almost like your dog, you just pushing it, pushing it, and he's probably getting, he's seeing some proceeds. He's getting some money from this. So Ish, let me ask you a question. Think about what you just said. I heard you. What
Starting point is 02:35:39 person would do that? Joe just got mad at whatchamacallit, pushing the black agenda. Justin Bieber, pushing the black agenda. With his black guy kids and the Martin Luther King speech and peaches out in Georgia and all of that stuff, right? Is there any
Starting point is 02:35:56 different other than him not being, he's not black? One is protected. Because I don't believe that Justin Bieber in my, I don't believe that Justin Bieber in my I don't know him never met him don't nothing
Starting point is 02:36:07 if I had to bet money I wouldn't say he was a racist I would say that he fucks with blacks heavy one is protected right the difference
Starting point is 02:36:15 but people will look at it as what misappropriation not you being a racist apologist no no no I'm saying I'm telling you
Starting point is 02:36:22 a nigga can harmonize a nigga you think he cool protected I promise you you pick the nigga can harmonize, nigga. You think he cool. Protected. I promise you. You pick the one thing that can't nobody question. True.
Starting point is 02:36:30 You can't question that. That's true. The second you do, they got words for you now. They have titles. Women all over the country are fighting against these fucking anti-abortion rules and all this type of shit. These rules where they're telling you what you can and cannot do with your body. And Lil Nas X puts out a picture
Starting point is 02:36:46 where he's pregnant. Trolling. Every topic. Ice at 41, I'm done talking to people where I present something that's valid and the response is, it's trolling. That's for the kids. No, but that's... How old is he? I understand that's what he's doing.
Starting point is 02:37:01 I'm trying to have the conversation about what he's doing. Yes, okay. But I'm trying to have the conversation about what he's doing. Oh, yes, yes, yes. I'm with you. Yes, he's trolling. I'm with you. But women out here are fighting for rights.
Starting point is 02:37:11 A real battle. A real fight. A real fight. Bad time for you to be the pregnant gay boy. And this is my man. I follow him. I fuck with him.
Starting point is 02:37:19 I like the trolling. I like the gay stuff. I like his music. I like all of it. I fuck with him. But at a certain point, now you trolling women? No.
Starting point is 02:37:29 Let me finish. Let me finish. Because trolls say they just troll. What about the women who can't have a baby? Word. Like, at some point, when you an adult, it has to get to adult brain. It got to click. It has to click.
Starting point is 02:37:42 I'm not mad at this little nigga having fun. I'm not mad at Lizzo when she went to go be naked at the Laker game. But when I put on a dope brain, she shouldn't be naked at the Laker game. And he shouldn't be pregnant when women are fighting for rights for their bodies. No, she could be naked at the Laker game. But now that you've thrown yourself into that arena, you can't be mad now when the other shit starts. Because you were super proud. So now when people are shaming you, keep your proud hat on.
Starting point is 02:38:08 Don't be crying. You know what I'm saying? Not when I can weaponize the tears. Word. Not when I can cry and get everybody on my side and now the fact that any of you even say anything about me.
Starting point is 02:38:20 Then you're a piece of shit. Yeah. Like, come on. What are we doing? People know what they're doing. They're playing a game against everybody. Nah, this shit is just
Starting point is 02:38:29 seeming like marketing. Yes! Like, everything. Because everyone sees everything on the internet and gets fucking riled up. Everything's a rollout. One way or another.
Starting point is 02:38:35 I've been screaming it since day one. And when I say rollout, I don't mean you're rolling out a project. We all gotta stop taking shit so serious that we see on the
Starting point is 02:38:41 fucking internet at the end of the day. Oh, please. Let me tell you that's never gonna happen I take this serious my shiny suit era was Biggie and Mace
Starting point is 02:38:48 nah you can't do that I'm looking at Nas X and Jack Harlow running around in shiny suits little kids are being affected by this I hate shiny suits now little kids are being
Starting point is 02:38:55 affected by this we say this with our older adult brains our older adults would say little kids was being affected by the shit that we was listening to and watching
Starting point is 02:39:03 and it's just all a cycle man no I just it's all a cycle i just and again this has absolutely zero to do with the lgbtq community one of my friends said that their kid is a girl and she was in school and they they talking about bisexuality and all that stuff in school now. Okay. And the kid says that they're bisexual. At like six. And they're like, why do you think that?
Starting point is 02:39:35 And they said because the teacher said that if you like girls and you like boys, then that makes you bisexual. Right? That right there is enough for confusion yes in a six-year-old that's enough for confusion because you can't you properly explain to a six-year-old sexuality and sexual preferences at six i agree with that uh okay i'm listening it's a lot of time back there i agree with you i agree with that Okay I'm listening It's a lot to unpack there I agree with you I agree with
Starting point is 02:40:07 Sex education in general Maybe is not for That's not a bad idea That's what I That's what I was agreeing with I'm just going by the age Right there But if you're
Starting point is 02:40:16 If you're gay You're not You can't be educated Into being gay I know Or educated into being bi But what you're saying Is at that age
Starting point is 02:40:23 You don't know anything You don't know about sexuality. Now, wait. Just imagine you hear bisexual means you like boys and girls, right? And you are a child. Hey, he's my friend. She's my friend. I like both of them.
Starting point is 02:40:37 I'm not thinking I like them sexually. I'm a kid. Nobody knows what type of like you mean at six. But I like them. I like you. I like you. Hey, that applies to me then i'm bisexual shut up what time you letting a sleepover start in your house
Starting point is 02:40:48 what age i don't think about it you do this i don't know i haven't i don't know maybe nine ish yeah kid gonna hate you nine right now that's a good question. Think about what y'all saying. I really got to think about it. Think about what y'all saying. I'm listening. You say nine. If my kid come up to me in three years and say, hey, can I have a sleepover? Then my brain goes somewhere different.
Starting point is 02:41:15 No, I don't know that I'm down with that. I don't know that I'm down with that. I know. I agree with you. I said nine-ish. I think at nine, 10 years old, kids are able to kind of convey what is happening. Again, as a parent, you kind of got to be in this touchy situation of who you let around your kids. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 02:41:34 What environment you allow them to enter, right? Right. So I think at, again, at nine-ish, ten-ish, I remember I was in fifth grade around ten. Right. I could convey to my parents or my mom or any adult what is taking place
Starting point is 02:41:48 right like articulately convey I think prior to that you might be a little confused you know what I'm saying so I think that might be a fair age this is my personal opinion I think that may be a fair age
Starting point is 02:42:02 I don't know about but again to the point that I was making before, this has nothing to do with the community. I'm talking about the children that are potentially being affected by the images that they see and by the stuff that they read and the stuff that they're being told. That's what I'm talking about. See, what I think is happening-ish is they're trying to give everybody
Starting point is 02:42:24 all the information because that same argument every movie every tv show everything shows a man and a woman kissing and maybe that child not no more no now they're showing everything but i'm saying prior to that it was you only saw one way indeed you only saw one way indeed Indeed. You only saw one way. Indeed. So as a child, you might think I'm supposed to do that. Even if maybe a couple years down the line, you don't do that. You might have thought because this is all I've been seeing, this is how it's supposed to be. And then what started to happen was when these kids felt something different, they felt like they were abnormal. Right. Because now I got to hide it because everything I've always seen was man, woman, man, woman, man, woman, man, woman.
Starting point is 02:43:13 So I can't let nobody know that I'm different. I think what they're doing now is not really trying to brainwash anybody or steer anybody any way. They're just trying to let you see that whatever you feel, it's okay. It's okay. There's somebody doing that too. You're not by yourself no matter what. And for that, I kind of get it. But I do think, I just think there needs to be more communication in households and parenting,
Starting point is 02:43:38 man. I think certain... I think certain things. Fam, I remember being, when we were kids, staying up to watch the awards. I think certain things like fam I remember being when we were kids staying up to watch the awards
Starting point is 02:43:49 I remember that right we would stay up to watch the awards and come to school and talk about the awards the next day right
Starting point is 02:43:56 now when we watch the awards it's mad sexuality whether it's gay straight it don't matter it's just mad sexual images I've done seen Madonna do all types of crazy shit in the fucking awards I'm not playing nowhere near the club Whether it's gay Straight It don't matter It's just mad Sexual images
Starting point is 02:44:05 I've done seen Madonna Do all types of crazy shit In the fucking world I'm not playing this Nowhere near close Nowhere near close to this Lil' Kim was showing up With a titty out
Starting point is 02:44:12 Yeah I'm not playing this It was a mistake We're not doing this And again they were the outliers They were the outliers That dress was made that way I'm just trying to turn the music up Yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 02:44:21 Let's try this And move us on It's fine It's okay. It's okay. She's so fire, man. She's dope. She's so fire. She's incredible. She just is artistically,. She's so fire. She's incredible. She just is artistically, she's just like a jar of artistic fun.
Starting point is 02:44:49 She is. And we do a man podcast, so I don't big her up enough on here. But I also got Queen Nadja Appreciation Day coming up, too. I'm getting into my artist shit. It's the fall, the winter, it's in New York. We listening to albums and songs that we love, new and old acts. I'm going to start coming in here and giving my flowers to the people that really, really deserve it.
Starting point is 02:45:08 I might even have a Queen Naja sleeper today. But I got an appreciation segment for that Queen coming up. Okay. I do. She got something new out? I know she put out an album a little while ago. She put out an album, and it was good. And she put out a bunch of records.
Starting point is 02:45:24 She's had a busy year, and maybe I'm just late to her year. Okay. But she's passed, Queen Nadja has passed my, you know, I do like a litmus test. Like, I try not to listen to anything that's marketed to me or promoted to me or whatever your single is or whatever you're trying to allure people in with. I try to purposely ignore it. And when you pass that, like when I still bump
Starting point is 02:45:47 into your shit, when I still groove to your shit, when the awk still ends up on your shit, I'm like, all right, I'll continue to check it out. And when you get two,
Starting point is 02:45:55 three, four, and five joints that are good, that I deem to be good without team, label, purchasing song, then it's like, all right, that's you. You genuine.
Starting point is 02:46:04 That's really you. Queen Naja recently has gotten to the point for me, I know that she was good, don't kill me. Her first EP was dope. She's been dope, but I thought that was just, we bought some dope. No. She's just dope.
Starting point is 02:46:20 And she's doper than I think some people know. Like, it's really her, I think some people know. Like, it's really her, is what I'm saying. Yeah, me and Rob went and saw her at SOBs probably, like, two years ago, maybe? Which was interesting, because she only had, like, 15 minutes worth of music out, so I was like, I don't know how this is going to go. But she put on a good 30 minutes of show. It was good.
Starting point is 02:46:38 Yeah, actually, this might be my sleep. Let me cut this off. Moving on, Queen Naja, I got an appreciation segment for you coming up. I want to give people their flowers while they're here to receive them and while I'm here to give them. So we'll get to that probably next week or the week after. And they can take your little flowers voice off on the punch. Shut up, Joe Budden.
Starting point is 02:46:59 Yo, I am so bipolar. One minute people should get their flowers, then the next minute it's like, ah. Fuck them flowers. Or not. Fuck them flowers. Or not. If they don't. Or not.
Starting point is 02:47:10 All right, so listen, I've been teasing this. I've been promising it. Here it is at the end of the pod. Freddie Gibbs. Freddie did. I don't want to talk about it, but we got to talk about it. Y'all phony, too. Because y'all ain't want to talk about it, but we got to talk about it. Y'all phony, too. Because y'all ain't want to talk about when Cassidy clapped back at Tory Lane.
Starting point is 02:47:29 We skipped that one. We skipped that beat. It wasn't good either, though. We didn't care. Yeah, but he tried. It wasn't worth talking about. Freddie Gibbs put a freestyle out over Drake's intro, and he's saying, you smoking on top five,
Starting point is 02:47:45 and you ain't smoking on shit, you ain't get to number one yet. And he's saying that line to say that he's number one. You should call Freddie Gibbs, but I'm not. What's up, man? What y'all think? I heard about it. I didn't hear the freestyle. I didn't hear it.
Starting point is 02:48:00 All right, then let's move on then. All right, sleepers, we got sleepers then. Freddie Gibbs hit me over the weekend and say, yo, nigga, you better talk about my freestyle. Vince Staples hit me to say, yo, you better not talk about Freddie Gibbs' freestyle, not talk about my shit. I was like, yo, dog, what do you want me to do, man?
Starting point is 02:48:15 What do you want me to do? I champion what Freddie Gibbs did because this is what any real nigga's supposed to do. Correct. Hip-hop nigga. This is a win that he did it for me. But I don't rap no more. So I don't have to be a hip-hop nigga.
Starting point is 02:48:32 I don't have to agree with this. Agree with what? What he did or? I agree with what he did. I also agree with what Kendrick is going to do, which is ignore him. That's fine. Or not.
Starting point is 02:48:46 No, he is. He's which is ignore him. That's fine. Or not. No, he is. He's going to ignore him. He is. But that's fine, though. He's going to ignore him. That is fine, though. You can't ignore it. Ignore it.
Starting point is 02:48:53 He could. And they both did what they were supposed to do. Freddie is supposed to say, yo, out of all the active dudes, I'm not afraid of you, and you ain't top nothing. You ain't get to me yet.
Starting point is 02:49:04 I rap on the same level as you Freddie Gibbs should say that Kendrick should ignore that and that's what they're both going to do so I don't have much to report here people's asking me what I thought of the Freddie Gibbs freestyle Freddie Gibbs is a phenomenal rapper so anytime he raps I like it one of the best anytime he raps I like it
Starting point is 02:49:20 especially when he do this I like when he just talk his shit I'm going gonna pull this from Andre3000 I would've liked for Freddie to have a more focused effort
Starting point is 02:49:32 on whatever it is he was doing but he don't care and I didn't care neither so I can't be a hypocrite like you gotta shoot it niggas even if they won't shoot at you
Starting point is 02:49:40 just to let them know what time it is sure just to let them know what time it is you're not gonna come out here and say that. That was my move. I feel like I'm top five.
Starting point is 02:49:49 Wait, what did Vince do? Yeah, I didn't know he did anything. No, Vince's point was, yo, y'all about to get up there and talk about this freestyle, but I ain't hear nothing about mine, right? And he said, that's right. Y'all don't really know too much about underground
Starting point is 02:50:06 MCs I took that I took offense to that I felt like he was jabbing me a little bit Ben Staples
Starting point is 02:50:13 I felt like he was jabbing me but Joe you ain't the rap guy anybody that knows like so everybody know
Starting point is 02:50:22 what you listen to but don't jab me that's true but don't use don't jab me. That's true. But don't use it to jab me. So I fired back. Vince Staples, are you an underground MC? Come on, let's argue. Let's fight right now.
Starting point is 02:50:37 Yeah. That's what he said. I couldn't disagree with him more. Why? Vince Staples has a superstar manager. Not just a manager. Vince Staples has a superstar manager in this industry. Who has also managed superstars.
Starting point is 02:50:55 Okay. Already Wayne sounded so underground-ish. But let's put that to the side. I've seen Vince Staples in smash television shows. That's true. Smash television shows. I've seen Vince Stables in smash television shows. That's true. Smash television shows. I've seen him in. I saw Saigon in smash television shows too.
Starting point is 02:51:12 Good point. No, not a good point. Saigon was a cast member in smash television show. He was a member. Vince Stables hasn't been a member anywhere. You just turned on a show and seen him as a rapper. smash television show he was a member vince staples hasn't been a member anywhere you just turned on a show and seen him as a rapper you've seen a list videos and artists and he popped up just as a rapper vince staples gets looks festival looks touring looks commercial opportunities
Starting point is 02:51:43 that no underground rapper would sniff. That leads me back to point A. He has a superstar manager, and he's as charismatic as can be. The only thing underground about Vince Staples is his album. That's it. His music in general, I would say. Not his brand. His brand ain't underground.
Starting point is 02:52:04 Vince Staples could turn around tomorrow and get a fucking seven or eight figure podcast check whenever he feels like it that I know you're gonna tell me that that's true
Starting point is 02:52:13 no I believe it's true but I'm just trying to say you're gonna tell me that that don't refute the underground thing yeah I'm still trying to see I know a lot of underground MCs trying to get their podcast
Starting point is 02:52:20 off the ground and they can't get a seven figure deal right now I believe that too his brand is not underground. Only his raps. Can both of them be true? What?
Starting point is 02:52:32 That him as a man or as a brand could... Bigger than his music. Yeah. Exactly. I think of people like Joey Badass who acting all over the place. That could be true. He had some hit records. You call him?
Starting point is 02:52:48 Y'all talk. Y'all talk. Like, again, I think of, you know, shit. A lot of people. Yeah, there's a lot of people. There's some names that come to mind. It's a lot of people. And not just that.
Starting point is 02:52:57 You might have access to everything. I don't know him. But the times that I've heard him speak, me being an analytic, he draws me in. You know what I'm saying? Like, he draws me in. You know what I'm saying? Like, he draws me in. It's hilarious. Nah, he's articulate. He's knowledgeable.
Starting point is 02:53:10 And the shit that he says, it'll pull you in. That's what I like. He'll pull you in. He's a what? He's opinionated. See, look, the little thingamajig ain't working. Hold on, homeboy. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:53:20 Don't you hang up. Don't you hang up, homeboy. Hello? What's up, nigga? This ise button from the joe button podcast man speak to vince stables i know you're gonna do this stupid shit when i text you no but for real why you text me that stupid shit honestly you my man i just I just you need to be gas and bullshit like it's sad actually we're listening oh that's it we be gassing bullshit look bro that's all I'm saying bro that's why I'll be over hip-hop right like niggas is so happy like go lucky like I can get why niggas was spinning on their head and shit and like wearinguits. How you doing though, Joe?
Starting point is 02:54:09 Yo. Yo, Vince, man. I'm great. I'm better than ever. I couldn't be better. That's good. I'm happy to hear that. Vince, you gonna lie to my audience and tell them that you are an underground act? I am.
Starting point is 02:54:26 You are an insecure. what does underground mean like what's wrong being underground y'all like the underground no no no i love i love the underground ben staples so much so the way let me finish let me finish let me finish let me finish i love it so much so that when I was there, I championed the fact that I was there. I loved it so much so that I fought with all my energy to get away from anything that could align me with
Starting point is 02:54:55 major label shit to really stand in my undergroundness. Now lie to me and tell me you did too. I did not. What did I do wrong? I'm done with you did too. I Did not What's your manager's name Corey Smith You know talk to them other niggas man. Don't talk to me about this
Starting point is 02:55:14 You know talk to somebody who might believe this bullshit as you got any younger brighter niggas Don't tell it to me a nigga that's really been underground Pepsi right Pepsi, you know a nigga named's really been underground. You can't Joe Buddy me. Look, this is why you can't Joe Buddy me. It was a nigga named Pepsi, right? Pepsi, he knew a nigga named Bumby. What was that group called? Bumby's group? Yeah. Come on, man.
Starting point is 02:55:34 It was called what? Hmm? The group was called UGK. Keep going. Underground Kings. Let him going. Underground Kings. Let him talk. Underground Kings with the Jay-Z feature, right? Let him talk.
Starting point is 02:55:48 Don't answer nothing he got to say. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm just saying, that was called the Underground Kings, right? They got a Jay-Z feature. I don't. If they can be underground, why can't I be underground? It's a state of mind, young man.
Starting point is 02:56:03 You feel me? Yo, Ben Staples. He lost me feel me? Yo, Vince Staples. He lost me right there. Yo, Vince Staples. He Joe Bunny. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know no rappers.
Starting point is 02:56:11 You ever see me with any rappers? I don't go to no galas. Yo, Vince. You feel me? I don't partake in none of that shit. Last time I seen you, you was taking pictures. I done seen you on the fedora. Yo, no, you can yell now.
Starting point is 02:56:26 Yo, you better get the fuck off my phone. I'm just saying, I don't take no pictures. You know the niggas that work at the label. I was signed to Def Jam. Well, I got the same deal. But I've been on the Universal since I was 17. I don't know one of them niggas. What do you know?
Starting point is 02:56:39 Label support since you was 16. What's my label support? Because I don't got a 360. They don't support no tours. They don't pay for no merch. They don't pay for no studio time because that takes too long. Every album I ever turned in,
Starting point is 02:56:51 I paid for the whole thing. Or Corey paid for the whole thing and then we just got reimbursed. Yo, don't bullshit my audience, dog. Yo, check this out. Yo, I'll call you tomorrow. I'll call you tomorrow. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 02:57:02 I can't even talk. I can't even talk. I hate hearing this from the nigga with the fedora in the pictures. Listen, bro. I call you tomorrow What label support did I get like You want me to answer you because I can't yeah, what's ordered they put me on like what I get Vince Oh Nigga don't like the truth Who got Vince Staples Who got Vince Staples Primavera When there was no rappers
Starting point is 02:57:28 On Primavera Vince Staples And this is the problem This is the problem With you niggas, man This is the problem With you Everybody wanna get together
Starting point is 02:57:34 Take pictures Be homies Go to the brunches And spin on they head But when we talk about niggas That's really getting off the mud We don't talk about it I'm pretty sure you thought
Starting point is 02:57:42 Tyler had a game Tyler had more label support Than me I ain't never had none Of that situation That's Sony. They was doing Sony radio I got signed by nigga. I got fired before they even know I was sorry So hi and when I when I saw my deal they call and say hey we can't sign We got it's not gonna go through with the deal already went through Yo, I got sorry they caught my manager saying that they would they didn't want me on the label. Are you friends with Tyler the Creator? I
Starting point is 02:58:08 Knew Tyler when I was That's your friend, right? Yeah, we was never friends me Tyler became friends like last year. So that is your friend Oh You say yes? Yeah we cool Is he underground? No Vince you put out an album I know DeMar DeRozan too Nigga am I in the NBA?
Starting point is 02:58:37 What do this nigga be talking about? Y'all be letting this nigga Get this shit off with y'all I don't know. I was an underground nigga. You the same nigga. How was you underground when you said DJ Kool and Fabulous? I didn't know no nigga like that. Stop playing with me, bro. I'm an underground king. I'm a lord of the underground. I'm digging in the crates. I'm Gangsta Crip, nigga. I'm doing all that shit.
Starting point is 02:59:15 What's some other hip-hop shit? If I book you to... I'm hip-hop. If I want to book you to... Hip-hop started out in the park, and I'm from Ramona. Don't let the listeners know. Vince, if I want to book you tomorrow for a show,
Starting point is 02:59:26 can I bring you brown paper bag money like all the underground acts? That'll make you underground. So you won't answer me. So you won't answer me. So you won't. So being underground, so you're saying that being underground
Starting point is 02:59:40 is basically parallel with being broke, but then you're the same nigga that talk about Tech N9ne all the time. He's getting money. Don't stop playing on me, bro. I know who Mac Dre is. Stop playing on me. You niggas over there with all them rats and them floods and y'all losing
Starting point is 02:59:55 y'all mind, bro. Okay, so just for the record, in Vince Staple's mind, you completely underground today, right now. Yeah. Yo, Vince. I never saw one of the 20,000 albums. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 03:00:15 If I wasn't facilitating myself, I would have got dropped, right? Stop playing on me, bro. You know how this shit works. But you didn't get dropped. Me. But wait, wait. And it's me. But you didn't get dropped.
Starting point is 03:00:23 Why? Because I don't spend no money because I don't got no labor. I'm not fucking with them niggas. I ain't spend no money. They put a converse in my ass. Sent me right out the door. It didn't sell. That's because you was weird, bro.
Starting point is 03:00:36 You was doing other shit. You weird. But nah, but you different. You be like screaming. You be upset. Like, I just mind my business, bro. You was. Hold it, niggas. You know they first and last name, Joe Joe don't act like you don't know these niggas first and last name
Starting point is 03:01:00 You ain't never know less than five niggas that work the label name, you know, they get an accounting bro You know get the mail you were a hip-hop nigga, bro. Don't act like come on stop playing me bro But Vince that's because i had to learn right now we're not at the studio fuck the studio nigga that's my point you able to look at property in year fucking five of your career nigga took me year 27 i mean i was in year 29 like all right i can buy that now it's not my fault you niggas they have smartphones nobody told you to be born when you was born bro it's not my fault i'm living in the future bro this is the set since you ever been to the set bro we got cameras on the corner the police is watching our every move but we still gangbanging bro i'm trying to let you know we living in the future joe but and it's a beautiful place you on a podcast right now let ain't the newspaper nigga yo Vince all right take this out
Starting point is 03:01:48 because I don't want to go back and forth you're the phone listen to this since you underground why can I pay you to just come to New York for like a week just come talk to us for a week like get away from your gangbanging ways and shit like just come up here and just kick it with us for a week. How much you got? You underground. What would I need to get this done? See how he's equating underground with brokenness when everybody wanted Stampin' Independence? Let's pick one.
Starting point is 03:02:16 Let's pick one. Did we take him? I told you last year I had a million dollars for you. You told me to Spotify at 10. That's not enough. No, you told me that you was getting with the white man to produce your fucking show, and you ain't want to talk to me. And that's been four years now, Mr. Fucking Underground.
Starting point is 03:02:35 Well, I don't need that money, so I'm not trying. I'm not in a rush to do that. I got other shit going on. I just miss you, and I want to see you, man. Just come up here. Shout out Kenya Burns. You feel me? Vince Stable's show on Netflix coming soon.
Starting point is 03:02:44 You feel me? We got some other shit in the works. Wait, wait, wait. You have a Netflix? I'm going to do it when I feel like it. You have a Netflix show coming, Mr. Underground? Tell us more. So now a nigga can't have a show.
Starting point is 03:02:54 See what I'm talking about? What that got to do with hip hop? I didn't get no show because niggas like my songs. I got a show because I'm a genius, bro. I'm the nigga, bro. I'm a nigga. I'll hear you be calling me a nigga out. I know you biracial and shit, but it's called being Hang out with me. Little motherfucker. Oh, man.
Starting point is 03:03:28 That's funny. That's funny, son. I'm not talking to him no more. We can end this shit. I'm out of here. Yo, that's funny, son. I'm finito. Let me find something. All you're looking for that prayer is up to Scarface.
Starting point is 03:03:38 He's getting a new kidney from his son today. He's in surgery. Hope everything goes well. I'm sure it will. Yes. Shout out to Scarface. We love you. We love you. We need you. Prayers for you. Queen Naja, Jack Queen's bed friend. Let's go then.
Starting point is 03:03:59 I got my Queen Naja appreciation week coming up real soon. Queen Naja, we fuck with you over here, you heard? But there's so many things I want to say Think I'm tired of pretending Not to mention, no attention Tired of pretending My intentions got restrictions Listen closely, let me tell you how I feel Girl, you know this shit we got right here is real
Starting point is 03:04:41 Started off as best friends Now you my best friend Whole big relationship Girl, this a blessing We started off as best friends Now you my best friend Whole big relationship Hope this don't end
Starting point is 03:04:58 My best friend That turned into my best friend Hey, let's go then, Jacque, we started off as best friends Now you my best friend I love when niggas get to lying on the hook Started as best friends Shut up, nigga Best friend
Starting point is 03:05:15 Started off as your best friend Now my life, you can't question Now that we go from kicking it to sexing It's a very risky situation I'm not a queen, nausea ain't playing with me Hey Never broke a best friend Hey Hey Hey Hey
Starting point is 03:05:38 That ain't cooking now Hey Love her Baby now I just can't get enough You fall in love I want you to start it off as best friends Now you my best friend Be my best friend I ain't gon' lie if you a R&B head out there
Starting point is 03:05:58 I been giving you gems for about two bucks now I ain't gon' hold you You should definitely be fucking some new You know what? Hope is coming Now you my best friend I ain't gon' hold you, you should definitely be fuckin' some new You know what? Yo, Savon, stop shazamin' back there, just let it ride Just feel it, embrace it Girl, your body's calling me. Hey.
Starting point is 03:06:28 You're my best friend. Look, she was his best friend. Now her body's calling him. He's such a liar. Turn it to her bed for you. No drill button. No for daddy. All right.
Starting point is 03:06:44 All right, what we got? What we got? What we got? What we got? Where we at with it? All right, I'm still... Ice, what came out new in the drill world? Let's hear it.
Starting point is 03:06:50 Nah, nah, no drill. Hey, Lonnie dropped some drill shit, right? Wait, what? I don't know. Oh. I'm still on the fab appreciation. Uh-oh. What I'm going to play is...
Starting point is 03:07:01 A lot of people don't know that fab was originally scheduled to be on your NBA Never Broke Again. So I'm going to play the OG version of that. Hey. Fab's verse on there. Is my verse on there? Because you said I got ripped. Your verse is on there. You said I got destroyed on that song.
Starting point is 03:07:15 Yeah, Prince cleaned you up. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, people don't like the truth, Joe. You still number three. You good. That's it.
Starting point is 03:07:32 No, for daddy. You drew back. We should join the league, NBA Never broke again, never gone broke again NBA, never broke again, never gone broke again Bitch, I'm ballin', bitch, I'm ballin' I fuck a bus, don't call it My niggas gettin' that green We in a different league, NBA Never broke again, never gone broke again Never broke again, never gone broke again
Starting point is 03:08:03 Got so much money, I got racks on racks on racks on racks on racks Bitch, so much money, my shit stacks on stacks on stacks on stacks on stacks You see me smoking and you know I got that pack I got that sack, I got that O, I hit the club I lose control, I smoke that slide, I know the grower Ball like the owner, hit this gym, make things move slower I'm never sober, roll some weed, our eyes get lower I'm in my old school ride, it sound just like a newer motor
Starting point is 03:08:30 They wondering how I get these meals and still live like a stoner No other way I get a hundred K from each promoter Or more than that, hold up, money, bung it, don't pull up Let me get some gin, pull up, got some bum, weed, roll up Niggas got the game, pull up, let me get some gin Pull up, got some fun, we roll up Niggas got the game, thrown up These niggas got the game, they got it from us I'm with my gang, get my niggas, go nuts You talkin' money, best believe I show up
Starting point is 03:08:59 And all the real niggas know us Wacked up, no wallet, keep a bad bitch on my team I should join the league in the A Never broke again, never goin' broke again Never broke again, never gettin' broke again Bitch I'm ballin', bitch I'm ballin' I'm so close, don't call her My niggas gettin' the green
Starting point is 03:09:21 We in a different league in the A Never broke again, never going broke again Been there, ain't going back, cause being broke's no place to be Penthouse shit on top's the only place for me I know one day I would ball, back in BK Sat the bench till I was called, now it's NBA Never broke again, and it's finally soaking in Money talks and that's why me and these broke ass niggas ain't smoke again
Starting point is 03:09:51 I said these niggas is blockers, should change the name to Ibaka They bitch be tryna kick it, and I just let em play soccer Need me more cause it's my locker, I suit up like them ballers No ball players that look up to me, funny shit is they taller And saying that your girl ain't saying shit like prank callers Cause it's a small world and hoes make it even smaller The rap game like the league, all the shit these niggas poppin' But when you run into em, too many niggas floppin'
Starting point is 03:10:21 Got way too many J's, set me back a couple I go broke, I sell them shits, and you niggas flopping. Got way too many J's. Set me back a couple. I go broke, I sell them shits. And you niggas back in trouble, huh? Ballin', bitch, I'm ballin'. Wacked up, no wallet. Keep a bad bitch on my team. I should join the league, NBA. Never broke again.
Starting point is 03:10:38 Turn it down, son, actually. Turn it down? Yo. Back to family trees and credit and flowers. Yo, do I get any credit for naming NBA Youngboy? I get laughed at. No, I'm really thinking like. I get laughed at.
Starting point is 03:10:57 I got it. Got it. Say laughed at or not laughed at. Is it any reason why y'all starving? I spellboard them by spelling for some. Oh, that's a killer right there. Best James Harden flip ever. Yo, turn it off.
Starting point is 03:11:16 Turn it off. Turn it off. Turn it off. Turn it off. Turn it off. Turn it off. I get it. It just hit me.
Starting point is 03:11:21 I get it. You just got your punchline? No, I get why Ice think I got killed. He don't relate to nothing I get it. You just got your punchline? No, I get why Ice think I got killed. He don't relate to nothing I'm saying. Same Apple Watch? Just a watch? I mean, like, I'm listening to my verse. Might not join, might just.
Starting point is 03:11:39 You joining, thirsty. Thirsty to join him too. Like, you don't understand this verbiage. Like, go ahead, man. Thirsty to join them too. Like you don't understand this verbiage. Like go ahead man, just play this shit. You right, I got killed. I'm in jail with them booms in red And all my hammers tucked, they don't show Plus them shooters with me got the green lights So why the fuck you think they won't go?
Starting point is 03:11:54 Hold up, yo, Chicks, you ain't close game And it's no shit, she felt your man She probably on your charm set Cause I don't ever be in that LV Shut up, man. Yo, here he go. What, nigga? It's the set. We can get out.
Starting point is 03:12:12 The fuck? Yeah, it's a mess. You wanted to be home? We back. Ice, did you hear what I just said? Honestly. You ever heard this record? Did you hear what I just said? Just play it. Forget it. I heard it. I know this part. don't worry about it No you don't
Starting point is 03:12:25 Cause he don't understand the levity of what's being said Cause he don't know levity I don't think he's fine I don't think he's fine I don't think he's fine I don't think he's fine I don't think he's fine I don't think he's fine My man's hit when the fan hit We spendin' all these bills on liquor Figured Jersey lost his team
Starting point is 03:12:45 But still we got the realest nigga Yo, I'm the video's partner Yeah, yeah, yeah That was the high school gym That was at East on South That was at the blue and red jerseys That was at the Y No, I'm not even at the M
Starting point is 03:12:58 We couldn't get a Y We couldn't get no NBA player to come by. Not one. All y'all know NBA players. All y'all know is that. Montana. That's him. Yo.
Starting point is 03:13:13 Ha. Hey. Hey. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Ayy Bitches callin', tellin', bringin' friend Derrick Rose, ballin', bitch, never goin' broke again Deuce phase in my shape Clear ice, they stay LeBron James on that break Real estate with that land
Starting point is 03:13:52 You in the phone, the half court Got you by a long shot Mark Tanner, that nigga from the park I don't know if it's all these It was too long, I think is the answer why You're not cool to me You're not tough to me. You're not the measuring stick of what street niggas listen to You knew ice and ish i'm gonna play some underground shit this guilty simpson ground shit. This is Guilty Simpson against Udine. Don't pull. Get up. Get up.
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Starting point is 03:14:44 Get up. Get up. Get up. Get up. Get up. Get up. Get up. Get up. Get up.. Get up. I'm Yeah, yeah Uh, haters a strong word and takin' the long way Was told that short works, me on the wrong day Means you gon' pay, fuck is you gon' say Fuck is you gon' do, you playin' the wrong you Need to act, fam, I'm on stack plan Spray out packed vans, straight out mad cans Punch with the crab hand, nachos all night Scrappy dog fight
Starting point is 03:15:05 Captain talk right, up the ante on em Squeeze the hammer on em, hot like California Hot like fan warren, make my own rules Raised off soul food, made off so smooth When that doze do, need that bread broke All the land smokes, we don't fair quote We keep what's said low, keep what's said quiet Fuck the federalities
Starting point is 03:15:25 Hey shit said about it wrap your head around it Don't hold the trigger at night Don't hold the trigger at night Don't hold the trigger at night Don't hold the trigger at night Let's, don't, don't hold the trigger at night Let's go now, he left some beats for me? Oh, alright, you better get back on it Don't you ever doubt it
Starting point is 03:15:56 This shit hard Don't you ever doubt it Yeah, uh, one with one main Tryna get dumb paid, tryna get cashed out I'm ice baths out, my city's a madhouse Back in the old days when I had no grades I took that fast route, raised with thorough cash Made that murder rap, make that birdie bath Cash and hurry back, out on the front line
Starting point is 03:16:18 Cut it with gun crime, run up slump time And daylight sunshine, made out just fine The city that shaped me It also raised me and made me crazy So save the babies, show em my plan B Something they can be, to raise a family I raised a toast glass and prayed it's gon' last Made the dough fast, I paid the toll cash Sold the flows brash, articulate timing Villainous times ten, tucking your pride in Hustle to dine in, hustle to dine out
Starting point is 03:16:46 I don't fly them out, I duck them and hide out Puffing to find out, double the pride count I make my mouth, till I'm on time One day, I'ma be bored on a Thursday With nothing to do, no bitches hitting me, no niggas hitting me And I'ma just call somebody and say, yo, just put a beat on Let me just write and leave and go I need the instrumental for that for you
Starting point is 03:17:07 Go my God Don't pull, Guilty Simpson against Houdini Shout out to Houdini You're part of the problem, Parks Yeah Don't you dare give me that instrumental Good I just want him to listen to it, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:17:16 I don't want him to listen to it Look, he's starting already That's how I start And then the bullshit starts That nigga was bugging He stayed in one pocket and killed. God damn it. Guilty as I do.
Starting point is 03:17:28 That's exciting. Guilty Simpson. Guilty Simpson, thank you. That was exciting. He's inspired now, see? And you sit here gassing. That was great. That's what I do.
Starting point is 03:17:35 I can't play with beats like that. If I get a beat, I get a beat like that. I'm dissing 90 niggas. I'm not y'all. I'm not y'all. Y'all niggas being friendly still. Smoking on top five. I'm smoking on y'all.
Starting point is 03:17:45 Rap. Every last nigga. y'all. Rap. Every last nigga. All of you. Goddamn. Man, we remember what happened when Control dropped. You took that record and said, I'm not just going to talk to him. I'm going to diss all of y'all. And he did.
Starting point is 03:17:54 And diss everybody. I started my Drake diss dissing Meek. Yeah, line one. I don't diss one nigga. When my pen come out, it ain't for one of y'all. Yo, you. Nah. one of y'all. Yo, you. Nah, you and y'all. Don't forget you got the one record
Starting point is 03:18:09 that you didn't put out where you didn't even diss him. That's my man now. That's my man now. Meek is my god too, man. No, I ain't talking about that. I'm talking about when you was dissing Drake. You said, all right, off him.
Starting point is 03:18:21 I'm the only nigga to call time out in the beef rap and start dissing somebody else and you you was laughing yeah fuck out of here but nobody laughed nah still
Starting point is 03:18:32 don't laugh you cool with him I'm just you you you you yo Ish what you got for us let me find some fab oh Ish got a player record yeah
Starting point is 03:18:40 Ish been killing shit lately go ahead and get your shit off that last shit was no just AZ okay featuring yo why you think Yeah. It's been killing shit lately. Go ahead and get your shit off. Yes, yes. That last shit was good, boy. No, just AZ. Okay. Featuring... Yo, why you think you can't find your iPhone?
Starting point is 03:18:50 That's not weird to you? I don't know what's up. Lost it somewhere. I thought I left it here. Yo, Parks, you got my iPhone? I thought I left it here. I know. AZ, man.
Starting point is 03:18:58 I'm not leaving it to you, fucker. We'll talk about it later. It's a ritual, B-Town. When I rhymes like the city is rhymes, play who? No label ain't give me a dime. Came back with a new record. I'm not leaving it to you, fucker. I'm not leaving it to you, fucker. I'm not leaving it to you, fucker. I'm not leaving it'll talk about it later It's ritual Beat your dog It's called life
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Starting point is 03:19:40 I'm neutral never frugal salute you if the feelin' is mutual Play cuckoo niggiggas coming to roof you The true school, the vet And the ghosts involved out of respect Still connect with the older gods There's no facade, I'm epic My style is perfect and epic Not a blemish, let me finish my breakfast
Starting point is 03:19:58 Look what I did with a pot Look what I did to the block Bust the Prezzy band, fuck it Look what I did to the watch Look what I did for the game Look what I did to the block Bustin' Prezzy band, fuck it Look what I did to the watch Look what I did for the game Look what I did when I dropped my album Kicked in the door, niggas thought was forever locked I woke them niggas up out of they sleep Bum-ass niggas was goin' broke in the projects Tryna figure out how they gon' eat See how they gon' speak on me
Starting point is 03:20:18 They know I'm constantly bodyin' beats Best to come out of the East since Brown in 03 Machine inspired, y'all, I fired off first, the last year numbers alone I can retire off merch, my jacket is by a Mars Diamond cross, they say I'm a rising star The PJ to fly across Earth, these are the perks Require hard work, but I acquire more worth My niggas built the empire off perch, that's a fish And my niggas have bricks of it, fuck this rap shit We still good for cooking pies like a brick oven Rick Owens trench on my wrist, flood it Put that drip on and your bitch love it
Starting point is 03:20:51 Goyard prints all on my bitch luggage My neck lookin' like I did Will Smith numbers I'm gon' be runnin' shit the next six summers All my blunts thin skin, I smell like pussy money weed Where is the incense? I like my drugs intense Make up, push your lips, give my dick a hug and kiss Finger fucked in fist, I make love than sense I make her friends kiss, cause she don't let them kiss me She make her friends sick
Starting point is 03:21:17 I make money, make money, I make ugly taste lovely I make money in my sleep and deposit what I wake up with Got the Draco on the gap with the long tail in the back I might break my own pat and my own self on the back Break the bank like I break the backboard They call me Shaq the fish, try to book me Found out that book was an almanac Call me back tomorrow, baby, I'm busy, the work continues
Starting point is 03:21:38 I eat rappers alive and ask for the dessert menu After the church send you the casket and dirt hit you The Nina gon' give you head Right after she flirt with you Wayne, nigga Put some straightening on my name, nigga Gang, nigga My track record like a train, nigga
Starting point is 03:21:54 Young money let the moolah burn Drip like lubiderm I was bumping AZ in the firm When you was a worm, nigga It's not a performance It's a ritual It's ritual, AZ. It's a ritual. It's ritual, AZ, Kyle Way The Machine, and Wheezy went crazy.
Starting point is 03:22:13 Wayne's starting to go do that feature bag like he did eight years ago. I'm so glad you said that because that brings me to a point that has pissed me off for the last couple weeks. Wayne ain't playing with these niggas. Dear rappers, all of you you All of you active rappers today All of you Don't put them on your shit No no no Put them on your shit please Stop saying y'all are
Starting point is 03:22:31 Having Wayne runs Stop saying that Y'all not Y'all not Yeah Wayne's run was To say that Is disrespectful to Wayne's run Yeah
Starting point is 03:22:42 And it's cool I just went on a slight rant about this yesterday and I stopped. If you wasn't there, you don't remember, a bunch of time has passed, certain things don't hit the same, revisionist history, whatever you want to call it,
Starting point is 03:22:58 it's fine. Don't sit there and say, I've seen, I've heard Lil Baby say it. I've heard Dirk say it. Y'all are fire right now. You are not having a Lil Wayne run. Wayne legitimately might have had a thousand verses in one of them years.
Starting point is 03:23:17 Fam, you're not. No, it's not possible. Music has changed so much. The output that Wayne was doing in terms of mixtapes, features, his own records. Freestyles. Freestyles. And was hitting. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:23:33 Not just throwing a bunch of bullshit out. He was hitting. You can't do. It's not humanly possible no more. It's a one-on-one. Exactly. No question. So just respect to Wayne.
Starting point is 03:23:45 Just say you're having your moment, your run, whatever. You're not having a Wayne run. I'm with you. And for everybody who missed it, a lot of y'all was kids, like little kids during that run. And I get it. I understand. That's just one name you can't play with.
Starting point is 03:24:02 I'm with you. You can't say you're having a Wayne run. Stop. I'm with you. I like that PSA. a Wayne run. Stop. I'm with you. I like that PSA. Yeah. Yeah. I was a little fed up with that.
Starting point is 03:24:09 I got a little pissed off. I had to address it. That matters to you. All right. You guys, you guys were amazing today. Y'all really picked it up around minute 57. Y'all them hour two dudes,
Starting point is 03:24:21 right? No, you don't think so? I heard you coach. I got to feel like I'm coaching. I got to feel like I'm in control, right? Real, you don't think so? I heard you, coach. I got to feel like I'm coaching. I got to feel like I'm in control, right? Real narcissism. You have to.
Starting point is 03:24:29 Real narcissism, Nier. See, the thing about me and Isha is we don't care. Who was Darren Williams' partner in that bad court? Because you Darren Williams, but I don't know who Ice is. Ice was something about Howard Isley, right?
Starting point is 03:24:44 Right? It was Howard Isley. Let's go, Fab. Hey. Hey. Yo, y'all enjoy this podcast. But I sent over some bread it can get rough with tuition and rent over your head Not the same pose a rescue anybody but a nigga know it's true Y'all enjoy this podcast as much as we did shout out to our first and last time listeners Shout out to the people that just returned to hear all these music takes and you're going back to wherever you were
Starting point is 03:25:18 Fuck y'all Sing to these niggas fast Oh boy do I love that Y'all Listen y'all girls That used to be tomboys And then y'all found dresses Sheesh Y'all
Starting point is 03:25:43 They ain't even know they was curvy Y'all are Number one on even know they was curvy. Y'all are number one on the list, but I'll tell you who's threatening your position. For me, anyway. The really, really, really, really fat girls that put the fat other places. They got rid of it. They not. No, you of it. They not. You guys.
Starting point is 03:26:12 Yo, the big, the girls that was 300 pounds took that weight and put it everywhere. I like it. They are so fine. They redistributed the weight. They reimagined themselves. They all right, man. They put that 300 pounds all in ass that shit is moving back there i ain't got looking no picture of them from 98 hey they could be fine girls from this point till death hit the gym keep it toned up hit the gym keep it toned up nigga
Starting point is 03:26:42 what's wrong with him they No, they're not doing He's so foolish. You try to sell some records Shit waste getting smaller niggas on Instagram like damn. I need a corner corner Not done with my fab tribute is too many joints Too many joints. I gotta get into it. It's off the house I ain't even fuck with, but this was a joint. Let's go then. Ay! Go back to that album. Huh?
Starting point is 03:27:13 I said one day, go back to that album. It is some shit. Not as bad as we thought? No. Okay. I killed it when it came out. I went back to that one. This and Ball Drop, though. It's weird.
Starting point is 03:27:23 It's weird. It's weird. Hey! Let's go, Chris! I went back this and ball drop though She while I while she do a bang bang She do a bang bang She attract rappers and the ones who do the same thing Players in the league and the dope world slaying things All tryna pull up on her, all she do is lane change They be in the air, want her to be the main thing Tryna lock her down, she in with the chain gang
Starting point is 03:27:54 Wanna make her wifey, but no name change She be on that Berk and Chanel type of name change She be stuntin', she be on a Jackie Chan thing Big San Rolies in the sky, let your thing swing Mike with a iced out Mike check 1212, I hope y'all enjoyed this podcast As much as we enjoyed delivering it to you guys Again, if you're going to Pergola, you better call three days in advance
Starting point is 03:28:19 New York is all the way on fire right now All you niggas that was talking about moving out of here Take your dusty ass on. We live. It's the energy over here. Let's go then. I hope it ain't nothing. Hey, no, no.
Starting point is 03:28:31 God damn it. Sorry, a little slow on the Serato. It's beautiful enough to bring back anyway. Shout out to the Versus champ, Jadakiss Fab. Let's go. Time to put in work. we all got a job to do I light a drink and ask myself what would Pablo do Coming through with the paper plates like the barbecue
Starting point is 03:28:53 Yo, keep us in your prayers, Lord knows we need to be there until the next time I bid you adieu, farewell, hasta la vista, adios, arriba, dirci, so long, goodbye, peace, 100 and all that good stuff I guess I'm just more remember life is a series of moments and moments past so let's make this one last as if it's all that we have also last but certainly not least the baddies are insecure the stagnant women want you to travel with them all over the world and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things Grab a ibuprofen Grab an aproxen Grab a Tylenol Grab some crystal meth
Starting point is 03:29:29 Special K Some Adderall Some weed Anything without fentanyl to help you get through some of these rough times that we in All I know is buy and sell We had to hustle to eat It wasn't no Thanksgiving Pour out a little liquor for homies that ain't living
Starting point is 03:29:43 It's big dinner shit, baby. Everybody up in here. Find what you bring to the table. Then pull up a chair. Yeah. And we out of here, man. I'm going to go try to sneak into this Versus and see what's going on. I don't have no ticket.
Starting point is 03:29:58 I don't have a pass. I don't have nothing. I'm just going with my hip-hop identification, whatever that is. I'll go perform Pump It Up at the door you should love it

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