The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 472 | "The Verzuz-Cast"

Episode Date: September 18, 2021

Unlike the previous Verzuz battles that have taken place, Joe and the guys were in attendance for the event between Fat Joe and Ja Rule. Joe begins by stating how happy he was to be wrong about his prediction per the last episode (22:20). The crew also share their experience, recall Nelly and Ashanti's interactions and address Jermaine Dupree calling out Diddy for a Verzuz battle (1:17:15). Ice has a revelation about the podcat fans (1:38:50), Saweetie lands a deal with Hidden Vally Ranch and Crocs (1:56:10), and MORE!   Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Yebba - “Stand”   Ice | Infamou$ Inf - “Let Em Know”    Parks | Flee Lord & Roc Marciano - “Trim the Fat” (Ft. Stove God Cooks)    Ish | Big Boi & Sleepy Brown - “The Big Sleep is Over” (Ft. Kay-I) 

Like, because again, for you, for a motherfucker that makes, I don't got no, you know what I mean? Give him a little bit of you know what I mean sauce. They're getting calm yogas in like Joe today. Letting the audience know, right? You're getting calm, 41-year-old Joe. It's Friday. I got to reserve my energy for.

I'm going to remind you about minute 57. No, for real, because I let you get- You did it to me last time. Me? It was you. How? It's always you. You do it, man.

Yo, you're bugging. You really get my fucking juices juicing. He grinds your gears. Yeah, you really grinds my gears. He grinds gears or something. Don't say I get your juices juicing. I don't want to hear that. Everybody knows I'm a straight man.

Hopefully. But you play a lot of games. There's a lot of kids out there playing on my name on the internet. Like my little kinky vid is going around. I'm sorry? Your what? My little kinky vid is going around. What's your kinky vid?

What the hell is this? I don't know if I want to know. I don't even know if I want to know. I don't want to know. Your kinky vid. What would you do? That's always my relationship with the internet. Like, they just catch me at bad times with no context.

You always need context with Joe. During the pandemic, I was on Insta Live early in the morning. Mornings. I was doing Morning Cup with Joe. Morning kink. I saw it. And I did this with a home girl. It was Sydney Dean.

Sydney Dean. Shout out to Sydney Dean. We love girl. It was Sydney Dean. Sydney Dean. Shout out to Sydney Dean. We love her. Friend of the show. And I'm just asking her stupid shit. So one of the questions I asked was, would you say that you're kinky? It's funny. She knows me.

I know it's hilarious. But on the internet now, they've reimagined this. So it's me with a full nasty beard, face all in the camera, just talking to some hot babe. So they're like, this is what you say when you got no game. This is what you say when you ain't get no bitches. This is what you say when you...

So my face has somehow become... Listen, if you live long enough, you're going to play all the roles. Look at this shit. Oh, fam. I look like Mr. Wendell look i look like i look like mr window i look like just some homeless horny freak in this video so it's got a lot of you kids that's funny it's got a lot of horny freak it's hilarious it's got a lot of you children like just talking to me in ways that i'm not used to men speaking about my name when it comes to women. It's like, but these niggas was born in

01, 99. You're not that dude no more. You just got to sit and take it. You just got to sit and take it. Bask in your old glory. Let the new kids laugh at you. It's over. But what were we talking about? Oh. No, you was talking about you

being super rich. Why does he start Every time Y'all don't notice That he does that And he says Sank like It's the warm up It's the new theme song

Joe is super rich Joe Joe Joe Is super rich That's hard I think that's trash That he does that But that's his warm up Time out

And that's not What we saw And I'm not I'm playing That's what got No but you can't Play like that no more. No, no, let me finish.

Because you my man. All right, so let's stop. These niggas out there. You do it to me every fucking day. That's different. I know, because you doing it. What this? Because you doing it.

Ice, you doing it? Ice, can you tell them that that's different, please? Ice. No, better not. You better fucking not. Can somebody tell them that that's different? Oh, okay. You on It's Your Side?

Yes. Oh, they trying to get me. Oh. Yo. They getting the hang of this potting thing. They doing that shit my old buddies used to do where they gang up. You should just be truthful.

No, no, they gang up. You guys. We tell the truth. We tell the truth. We tell the stupid truth. We tell the truth. No, you guys are truthing together. We're truthing.

You better stop truthing behind my back. You know, you guys are truthing together. We're truthing. You better stop truthing behind my back. You know, you were actually having a really great conversation about taxes and about- We were joking about- We started talking about cars. We were talking about cars. They were cracking on me on the way over here because I won't buy a new car. Uh-huh. Me either.

So- No. No? That's not the same. don't buy a new car. Uh-huh. Me either. So. No. No. That's not the same. It's a different. No, I'm showing the audience how we got here. Get there. You killing that shit.

So they were cracking on me about the cars. So then I'm saying like, yo, I literally be having an internal battle when it comes to buying a car. I'm the same way. All of my friends got dope cars. Like 90% of them got hot shit. Or at least something new and clean. Yeah.

So for me, I look at houses. At least something presentable. No, nice shit. Something you could go out on a date in. Yeah, most of my friends got nice shit. Something with power windows. But it's me.

But it's me always shooting. Something with FM radio. But it's me always something with fm radio but it's me always you is talking about my shit go ahead see that's horrible go ahead man i'm gonna shut up there right so look um nah so i was like yo i really be having an internal fight because i know it's a waste of money me too right most cars most cars are a waste of bread. So when I look at cars, I'll be like, mortgage, car no more. New Japan. And the dope shit now is damn near a mortgage. But let me ask you a question.

Why you can't do both? Because you could get more houses. I'm just saying. You could still get a, like. You can. You can do both. I'm just saying. You can.

To enjoy some part. I'm not saying blow it but you can enjoy it and say I'm gonna go get me a little something so my man like

yo dawg you work so hard enjoy the shit you in your 40s go ahead like splurge nigga do your thing mid 40s

that's an important distinction to make alright go ahead man your man don't just be like you in your 40s you see right you know't just be like you in your 40s. You see, right? I know, you getting up to here in your 40s.

You see, right? Enjoy some shit. So, nah, so I literally be having that fight. So Joe just bought a new car, so we started having a conversation.

For my business. And then we started talking about the write-offs, right? Right. They heard me screaming. Y'all got that in there? I didn't laugh because I wanted it

to be taken seriously. But it is. I know. It is. It is. I can't pod without a Maybach. How the fuck am I supposed to give them my thoughts? No, you're absolutely right, Joe.

You're absolutely right. Without the leg room. See, and that. The leg room clears my brain. Yo, Mo does it. Oh, boy. No sound cap. Oh, boy. No sound capping. I need all that.

I need to suck in the seat. But this is how my character is misrepresented on this pod. Because we joke around this pod. And never do we tell them that Joe was responsible enough to wait two, three years, went carless, did his due diligence, checked with every Ben's dealer across America, the street dealer. We don't never say that part. We just come in, we joke, and then I think,

oh man, I see how Joe got Hollywood and shitting on all those people. Some of this shit is like entrepreneur trauma though. It is. You know what I'm saying? Because you're like used to getting it and going out and, you know, you don't have a steady salary or paycheck.

So you're like, nah, let me not go out and go crazy. And I will, I will add to your point. You really have been pretty responsible when it comes to that. All jokes aside. No, seriously.

You've been very responsible. I'm not even joking. I'm being serious. Thank you. You talked about some other shit before you was going to get. You didn't jump out the window. No, you ain't jump out the window. You got that old watch.

Fam. You got a bunch. Yeah. No, I'm serious. I'm not even joking. I'm serious. Y'all know the watches. I want to go get them.

I want to drive my accountants mad one Friday. I'm going to drive my Maybach to the watch place and drive my accountants mad. I'm going to go call Richard Milley personally. But I work hard. I know you do. I work hard. And you deserve the nice shit. But I do like about you that you have the same watch and you just got the crazy car.

You could have been to this shit. And that's my... So me personally, my friends tell me the same watch and you just got the crazy car. You could have been to this shit. Me, personally, my friends tell me the same shit. You busting your ass, you working your ass off, blah, blah, blah. Enjoy that shit. Not just that, I'm in my mid-40s, as you would like to point out. Dog, niggas be dying at 50.

It's not uncommon anymore. Niggas be dying. At 40. At 30. People are like, yo, dog, enjoy that shit. Because again, we don't know how long we have. That's God's plan or the higher being's plan. So enjoy your money, dog. You leave tomorrow. You want to be able to say you did some shit.

That's why I travel a lot, too. That's my premise behind traveling. So we start talking about the write-offs available for cars. Like the G-wagons, all the heavy trucks yeah i never knew this it's a real yeah you can write off up to 6 000 pounds it's a dollar for dollar write-off anything over 6 000 pounds yeah so interesting and that makes a lot of sense which is a cullinan a g wagon supercharged range. Shit like that. The big heavy shit. The heavier trucks, right? So, then I'm saying, but people get lost in the write-off conversation. Like, yo, dog, if you make 80 grand, you can't write off the Bentley.

You don't make enough money. Can't afford the Bentley. You don't make enough money to write it off. Right. Like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can just write it off. No, you can't. You got to make enough money, my nigga, to where Uncle Sam's going to take it if right like oh yeah yeah i could just write up no you can't you got to make enough money my nigga to where uncle sam's gonna take it if you don't spend it so at the end

of the year uncle sam gonna take 400 grand from you you got to give him 400 grand go spend that shit do you have do you have any idea what the threshold is for uh when it starts to become worth it to spend the money as opposed to when he he going to take it. So back to Donald Trump. Donald Trump saying, dog, I'm claiming a dollar. If I can claim a dollar, I'm claiming a dollar. And that's what he does. For the most part, he's... And he said, which you can't really argue with him,

yo, dog, I'm playing by the rules that y'all set forth. If y'all tell me on the layup, I could take three steps, and then I'm taking three steps on the layup. And that's what the fourth quarter is. You're going to see a lot of companies now getting rid of money, donating money, giving away money right before January.

They got to spend it. Got to go. It's already budgeted for. They already allotted it for certain shit. You got to spend it. So that's how we got into the fancy, made-ass conversation. I want to know, though, are you going to upgrade the truck? Because they got some shit

available for vehicles nowadays, man. What do you mean? Different from when you got your truck and went 90. Nah, because I'm more so concerned because you got rappers dissing you now. I don't give a fuck who dissed me. I'm going to play it.

I'm going to let you hear it. Nigga has something to say about your truck. Oh, nah. He did. Nah, give him a little dose. Give him a little going to play it. I'm going to let you hear it. Nigga has something to say about your truck. Oh, nah. He did. Nah, give him a little dose. Give him a little bit? All right.

Give him a little dose of that action. Welcome to the pod. I'm Mr. Body Catcher. Slaughter gang soul snatcher. Ain't no regular F-150. This a fucking rapper. Yeah. I told you, this is not no regular F-150.

Damn, kid. You got the regular shit? Hey screen man Don't be back there Just keep Damn So I would like I don't like that I'm fine

I'm fine Damn I'm the only one On the pod That never got dissed By a rapper On a song That's crazy It's coming

Your day is coming I know I know Your day is coming It's coming. Your day is coming. I know. I know it is. Your day is coming. It's coming. I earned it. Yo, but nah. I don't really be caring like that, yo.

It depends on the day. I'm going to get something. All right. It's like whatever I do. Just can't get through. You know what I mean? It's fall in New York. Never going to say you met them all. I just can't get through to her Oh, oh, oh I'm never gonna tell you nothing wrong Oh, oh, oh

Now she like me, shawty got on her We used to jump up in the maid, rock and roll out Used to care, she used to share Now that she's the key, we can't be found I'm about to set you straight And I'm sleeping with a ghost My stock is down and I'm I used to be with my maid and go Thinking about all their partners indiscretions this past summer All the date parties, the girl trips The girl is in nine different group chats

They talking shit about you I told you to leave but you lied to me when you said that It should be raining in New York right now It's when I get my Birkin for real though If you are not here for a Versus cast Just turn it off Turn around, go home I have so many Versus thoughts, sorry But I keep climbing and hoping things will change

And the sky turns red And the water comes to rain Watch this progress away Sorry Somebody told me if Usher versus Chris Brown were to happen This record doesn't come on for Usher Is that true? This record does not come on Got it Just leave me Just leave me Just leave me

Just leave me Why you just leave me Just leave me, just leave me, just leave me, just leave me, just leave me, just leave me, just leave me I'll accept that, that's fine Mic check 1-2-1-2, mic check 1-2-1-2-1-2 Mic check, one, two, one, two, mic check, one, two, one, two, one, two Got shit to talk about today, happy Saturday out there I'm not a daddy, no Don't you worry Oh yeah, we outside this weekend

And next weekend All September and October Really I love fall in New York It goes When the summer came You were not around Now the summer's gone And love cannot be found

It's alright man, it's alright for y'all Where were you when I needed you Oh my god, where were you? You abandoned me this summer Shout out to all the niggas pulling out that you abandoned me line How could she? When the winter came You left me at my worst

Parting from love's nest Leaving me in doubt You left me at my worst. Wait a minute! Our love is at an end But you say now you have changed But tomorrow will reflect Love's pain Just turn this down for a minute. See how everybody's doing, because I'm not cutting it off. Sorry. You should. I'm not.

You're not supposed to cut this off. How y'all feeling, man? Fucking excellent. Amazing. Shout out to everybody out there whose girl is treating them better because she's seen your work over the summer. She and your followers on Instagram, she's seen some of the work in there. She started acting right. Hold on.

Let me turn Stevie up so she can feel us. I mean, let's get some instrumentation ready. Hey. Shout out to everybody out there getting a meal prep. Let's go then, huh? Ish, what'd you do this weekend? I know you ain't do much. Let me get right to you. This weekend or during the week? Oh, shit. My love is back It's a blue collar podcast. It's a working man's part, man. Shout out to anybody at work right now, by the way. It goes. I've been low all week.

I've been in the house all week long. Starlet's closed. How's that been working for you? I normally leave that part out, but yes, Starlet's has been closed. How's your been working for you? I normally leave that part out But yes, Starlet's has been closed How's your emotions feeling? How's your personal peace? I'm great I'm cool

I'm perfectly cool with Starlet's closing Did you get ones just to throw in your house? Not for good I mean, if they closed for good I'd be fine with that too I don't know You might be sad We'll adapt I would be sad You would be sad You'd be fine with that, too. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know about that one. We'll adapt.

I would be sad. We'll adapt. You would be sad. You'd be sad for a minute. They closed and shit changed. We adapted. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Quickly. And they opened quick. They adapted. They adapted. Yeah, so I don't know. We got to open back up. Survival of the fittest. Exactly.

Only the strong survive. I was strong. But yeah, Monday started all vaccination in New York City. So they had to close and get back. Right, I support that. Watch your band in Stevie. Talk to them though, Stevie. I'm gonna try to not get hyped this part. How do you abandon Stevie?

How do you abandon Stevie? That's some sick shit. He needed her. Yeah! Yeah! Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's how you start a pod right there, Stevie.

Yeah. I can't hold you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, microphone check one two what is this welcome to what is this 480 472 oh i'm so sick of this 400s has been like what a roller. Get me the fuck out of here. 472. It's going to be good. Oh, my God. Welcome to episode 472 of the Joe Budden Podcast. He is I and I am him.

This is the yoga, zen, meditation version of me. This is the evolved 41-year-old, more mature version of me. Yes, even more mature than the last pod i was just gonna ask you like more mature than that it was 41 last pod though yeah but i've evolved since then got it so welcome welcome uh here joining me today is the wonderful parks hey it's just here man you gotta put a little more Put the butter on Hey

Ish is here with us today Fresh back from London's London Fashion Week Where were you? You were somewhere right? I was in Petty Just more designers I was in Norton

Niggas kept complaining So I copped more diamonds Rocked more Versace Ain't nothing sweet. Who is this Carl, gentlemen? Tell us what you're donning. I don't even know what donning means. Fuck out of here.

Ice is here with us today. What's going on? Rep for BMW. Just copped a new BMW. They gave him the sweatsuit off the lot. They gave him the sweatsuit on the lot. Like, here, we didn't even think you was doing it like this one. Right? So how y'all doing today?

Real good. Real good. Real good. Real good. How's everyone's mental health? How's everyone's spirits? How's everyone's tonality? How's everyone's passion and conviction? Yeah, I'm good. Everything is up. How's everyone's home life? Everything is up. Great, man home life Everything is up Great man

Great Home life is great Can't beat the fall It's my shit It's my secret Like literally Fall just has you In a good little

Fall in New York Fall is the shit I love it Fall is the shit I'm gonna go outside As much as I can Just telling everyone Before that winter

My backyard I'll be in my backyard a lot Football back I'm good That's a fact though That's it Football too I'm just telling everyone Before that winter My backyard I'd be in my backyard a lot Football back I'm good That's a fact though That's it Football too I'm good

It's a reason to go to the bar Eat the wings Why wouldn't I want to talk football? You're a giant fan I know Oh I was just I was trying

Who does Alabama have this week? Who they got? A big one? He keeps saying it's Alabama cause what is he talking about bro you keep talking

about Alabama no I'm talking about the Giants he talking about the Giants while I'm talking about Alabama so what you talk

about if you want to ask me about the game from the other night I didn't see it if you want to

ask me about what I was doing I was having a beautiful tomahawk for two really three could have eaten

but it was only me calamari jumbo shrimp that's what I do now I appetizer it out get full and then just stare at the main dish like you know what bag him up I do that now so that's what I was doing I will not be held hostage to non-existent virtues such as Joe Judge, Jason Homeboy. What's Jason Cowboy's name? Garrett. Jason Garrett. I'm not sitting home on a Thursday to watch my team find new ways to lose a division game. I just feel like my time is more valuable than that.

Even when I watch the highlights, I get angry. Like, I don't want to. Is Alabama playing this week? Because I'll talk football, but I mean, what is there for me to discuss with the Giants? They should lose. I'm rooting

for them to lose. Because Alabama... You don't get what he's saying. I don't think so. We need a quarterback. You do need a quarterback. Especially's why. You do need a quarterback. Well, yeah, especially when we spent the last 10 years drafting offensive linemen that have failed.

They've all failed. They've all, every one of them have failed. And now, you guys, I told you you're getting Zen Joe today. I will not raise my voice, nor will I lead this world top charting podcast with Giants talk. I will not do it. I will put my foot down. Okay.

Moving right along. Let's talk verses. There we go. Come on. All right. So, are we going to start with the apology to Ish first? Or who are we apologizing to first? We got to apologize to Ja first.

Okay. First and foremost. Yes. No question We got to apologize to Ja first. Okay, we do Ja. Okay, yes. No question. His name is not Ja anymore. Explain his name. No, it's not yet. He's on his way to being Joticus.

No way. One more. He gets one more, he's Joticus. Don't do that, Ish. Don't do that. Don't ever. Please leave the hip-hop stuff to us. No, nigga. I'm 45. Yeah, but don't do that. Don't do that. Don't ever. That was just real. He please leave the hip hop stuff to us. Don't do that. No, nigga.

I'm 45. Yeah, but don't do that. I predicted Jada went. Y'all niggas went Fat Joe. No, I went Jada Kiss. And I was right. Nigga, you went Fat Joe twice. I said Jada Kiss first.

On this platform. On this platform. You said Jada. Joe, pardon me. Anyway. Yeah. I said Jada Kiss. Go ahead.

Wait, you want me to kick myself in the ass because I picked Fat Joe? I'm not here to do that. I didn't say that at all. I don't think, this is not an embarrassing moment for me. I couldn't be happier to be wrong. I could not be happier to be wrong about my prediction. Some of y'all out there are trying to kick me in my ass talking about Joe just never do the versus talk again.

You're always wrong. Whoa, what podcast are you listening to? I've been been wrong three times this shit is over a year in they got over 20 joints and still i feel like i could have put together a better fat joe playlist absolutely you did then yeah then he did you did absolutely like i lost for all the reasons that I anticipated being right. I predicted Fat Joe to be the more prepared, more meticulous, more invested performer here. So while I thought he would, of course, lose the hit battle, I thought the longevity would play a part. I thought the OG status would play a part. We don't typically see the OG lose on a part. Fat Joe was awesome. I thought the OG status would play a part. We don't normally typically see the OG lose on a versus.

I just thought a lot of things would come from Fat Joe's side that never came. Yeah. And Ja on the other hand, no way on earth did I think he was great enough to have an amazing fantasy football team that he just drafted a week ago. Because you're not invested. You got to be to really. We're in a team of sharks. We're in a league of sharks.

Like, niggas is on waiver wire. Niggas is friends with the players in the NFL. Like, you're not understanding the level of how much invested you have to be. And Jai's always good in this league. No way I thought he would be prepared for versus. I meant that. He sounded way too comfortable when he talked to him, too. He sounded way too comfortable.

I thought he sounded like a nigga ready to just get his ass whipped. But no, no, no, no. Don't you know, no. He learned something. And't you know no good. He learned something. And I couldn't be happier. I couldn't be happier. John looked more prepared.

He had a better game plan. He looked like he was calling audibles, able to adjust on the fly. It didn't seem like Fat Joe did the same. That was my favorite part. I thought that Fat Joe should have. I'm watching John in the back talk to the DJ. No, the DJ's asking him on a close-up. It's like, yo, what you want next?

Like, what we doing next? I love, like, I've been saying for the longest. That's dope. That's what I originally liked about Versace. That nigga's up there with a marker scratching off shit. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you want to hit me with that?

All right, hit him with this. Right. And the other thing was Fat Joe tried to joke his way through it. He tried. But every joke, John had a rebuttal. He tried the joke his way through it. He tried. But every joke, Jai had a rebuttal. He tried the dip set. He tried the dip set thing. He tried a lot.

Yeah, he did. No, he tried the dip set. He went to that formula a little too hard. He went to that. But he was prepared for everything you said. It was like I had your entire playbook. No, I know everything you're going to say. I know everything you're going to say.

I've been hearing it for the last 15 years. You can't say nothing new. Even when you brought your line out about yesterday's hits is not today's hits. He's like, you're right. These is classics. Yesterday's hits is today's classics. He shut down every little line you could have said. Fam, the nigga won an award.

He said you're getting bodied by a singer nigga. Everything that you already had in the tuck, I knew it was coming. I had to reply for it. Now let's get down to business. Well, not for nothing, John's been hearing these jokes for fucking 15 years. That's my point. All the 50 cent little jabs, I've heard them already. Yeah.

You can't say much. I've heard them all. Let's get down to this music, though. Yeah. We were wrapping up. We were wrapping up the last pod. We were recording on the same night as the verses. We were wrapping up the last pod.

We were recording on the same night as the Versus. And in my head, I just didn't know how, I don't know how many more New York Versuses there are out there. Yeah. Right? I feel like there may have been some mistakes. Not mistakes, but match-up mismatches here and there. Maybe it should have been Banks against Fab. That's what I originally said.

Maybe it should have been Nelly against Ja. That would have made probably more sense. That's what I said. Yeah, maybe it should have been Fat Joe against someone else. It should have been. But that's versus, and how they're doing it is how they're doing it. They got shit to do now, So you got to get shit done. But because of that thinking, I was like, you know what, man?

Let's kind of pass Versus to go home. Let's try to go to Versus. So we get tickets to the Versus, all of us. And we go to Versus like a family. But we're running late. We just finished recording. And now we're just out and about. You got your beautiful wife with you.

Like, now it's like a night. Right? And because it's a night, we walk in. They give us a little hassle at the front. You know, you got to be vaccinated. Show your vax card. Then our tickets were at Will Call, but Will Call was closed. Yeah.

So it was just a little bit going on to get in. But we got in. We stopped at the bar. Got some juice. got some liquid, some nourishment for our bodies. The show started at 9. We're running a tad bit late, but that's okay. I hear the patrons coming from the audience, and I hear music. They're telling me Flojo is on. Damn it, I'm missing Flojo.

But boy, am I happy that he started with Flojo. Yeah. What a great opening record. Yeah. It tells me Fat Joe is about to play all of that shit that maybe some of the casual fans don't know about. And if you was outside and if that energy is present and if it's a hundred,

a thousand, five, ten thousand Spanish niggas that stab niggas up in that building, I could see this being the Bronx version of Dipset Locks. I picture that in my head, but I'm getting my cranberry, pineapple, and orange and I'm flirting with theberry, pineapple, and orange,

and I'm flirting with the 60-year-old white bartender. You guys were being literal. She was a sweetheart. Oh, wasn't she a sweetheart? Literally. I'm telling you, he's not joking. No, I'm serious. I'm giving you guys detail, but detail for detail. That's why I'm glad we all went like a family,

so we could do this like a family, right? And Flo-Jo must have went off at some point. No, we came out while Flo-Jo was. No, we came out. No, no, no. No, no, no. Flo-Jo went off. I know.

Because as we were walking, the building began to shake. I spilled juice. As you're prone to do. No, but I was walking like my straightest. It was the building shaking. The building started shaking. Because you heard what? In my head, I'm thinking, the hell's going on in here?

And through the hollow walls, it was just, it was, this is all, this is what I was muffled. I couldn't make it out. My juice just came. It was doing this, and as I got closer, it just, it was like this. That's how I heard it through the wall. Look, listen to it. Nigga, my juice was all over my outfit. I slapped myself in the fucking face.

I'm just coming from the pod saying that no way Ja Rule knows how to put together the fire Ja Rule set. He going to come in and try to hit you to death. Damn. And then it got closer. And we got in there. It was like. It was clear. Oh there. It was like. It was clear. Oh, shit.

It was this. We had just played this. Yeah. I didn't think Jai would play this. Open it up with it. I didn't even think Jai remembered that he was on this. Dog. Oh.

Come on. Let me give it to him. Let me give it to him. Let me give it to him. Whoa. Fuck. I'm looking at Fat Joe's army jacket lining. Different a little bit. When you got to stand across from that song one.

And John was in fatigues too. No, John looked like he came for. He was in the olive green cargo joints. He looked like he was also ready for war. Okay. Yes. But no. But different.

But different, yeah. Yes, but no. But different. But different, yeah. Fat Joe had 100 million chains on. We've seen that shit from the popcorn stand in the back. Fat Joe had on top, bottom, black T-shirt, towering still at 50 years old, towering still at 50 years old over Ja Rule, reminiscent of every Terror Squad, Fat Joe story you've ever heard in your life.

The optic of this was, oh, OG time is about to happen. For me, anyway. For me, it was, oh, OGing is definitely about to occur. I thought Gucci Manjeeezy was about to happen all over again couldn't have been more wrong once Ja played

this song song one always tell you where they going it tell you the head space that they in and by then

I felt like some audibles needed to be called indeed from track one from track one just what you mean Gucci Man Jeezy all over again Some audibles needed to be called. Indeed. From track one. From track one. Yeah. Hey, just, what'd you mean Gucci Mane and Jeezy all over again?

Jeezy has way more hits than Gucci Mane. Okay. But Gucci Mane's presence, what he means to the city, the mixtapes, the street records, some of the records that didn't go national, the presence of them had a lot of people saying, oh, Gucci won that battle. I don't care what song Gucci played. I mean, Jeezy played right there. That's what happened.

I disagree, but okay. Well, you would. No, no, I'm not even talking about from the Jeezy. I'm saying the people that told me I don't want to keep going back to that battle, it was because he got up there and disrespected him like that. We cared more about that than the music, necessarily the totality for me it's all of that i'm saying for you i'm telling you a majority of the people all they took from that was we smoking on your dead homie that was the moment they don't care what you played wasn't

about your hits wasn't about none of your records you say that but he had to stand there and play 20 of his records and against young Jeezy that should be a tall task when you're playing mixtape records so somebody out there said oh shit this song where he's just going crazy and distance nigga and disrespecting anybody is harder than whatever that hit is now I feel like Jeezy won but the mere fact that a conversations to be had is what I mean and I thought that Fat Joe would be able to pull that off. His catalog and all the different places he can go said to me, and he got enough hits to where you could balance this out.

If right after Flo Joe, What's Love comes on, this is different. But Fat Joe stuck to whatever his game plan was, which was, I'm going to get my B joints, my B and C records out early. And Ja clearly said, nah, I'm playing hits early. Well, Ja also has a bigger hand of hits. He's got more space. But in the second half of Ja's 10,

there were a few that were not of Jaws 10 there were a few that were not for sure there were a few that you hear in the beginning of his second 10 yes

they were the and I'm like yes yes you can tell that those are the records that probably would have gone

in the first 10 if not for the hits they put put it on me in the first 10 this is the problem to me Jaws got hood staples Or the hits that he put on me in the first 10. That's the problem. To me.

Ja got hood staples. And then he has top 100 hits. And his top 100 hits are still kind of hard records. Yeah, but they hit, hit, hit. Yeah, like, yo. So, again, I don't think Joe could have won. He could have made it more even. I'm not doing that.

Joe set. Joe swung back, man. Joe swung back with what he could. Joe Budden's set of Fat Joe records. We've heard it for two days. I was like, eh. And I came in here and retracted. I said, yo, John's still going to win, but it's going to be close.

And initially I said 13-7. Then I pulled it back based off of Joe's set that he was playing a Fat Joe shit. I was like, damn, I forgot that. Damn, I forgot. Oh, damn, I forgot that. That's why I said Fat Joe.

Fat Joe didn't play none of that. I expected that to happen. Right. Because that's happened in all the other battles that I've clearly said somebody's about to get washed on. The other person

will play some shit that had me like, damn, I forgot. Oh, you know what? I forgot. When I got there and Ja went to the gutter first, I knew it was over. That's when it's bad news.

It's over because now I'm going to the gutter and I'm scoring. I'm hitting you down in the body, boop, boop, boop, and I'm scoring. So now when I start aiming at your head with the Ashantis, with all that other shit, you out of here. See, I expected Fat Joe to know that if Ja Rule go in his gutter bag, it ain't gonna be but murder Graham and it's murder. Those are the two you have to watch for. If you can successfully counter those, then Fat Joe is in a great

spot. Let me tell y'all all around that I think Fat Joe should have won that he didn't. Actually, before you do that, if you don't mind, I think part of the issue here is that Joe was leading off the first half. And he was going gutter first half.

And then that leaves Ja open to counter it with a better gutter. And I was just getting ready to say, another problem with that is, I think Joe had his set list. He did. This is the records we played. He didn't deviate from that at all. He didn't talk to the DJ like yo you know what every time Fat Joe

damn he came back with this alright you know what let me scratch that don't play this record but when you're leading off you gotta listen yeah but you can still

if I lead off you gotta play a record to move one of your records yes so when Fat Joe was getting listen I just don't like I didn't like his sequencing

I didn't like the execution of his game plan, but I still felt like he had enough in the toolbox to where I was still kiki-ing with the Spanish niggas still. Y'all see me? I was still, we was having a blast. Hey, hey, hey, hola, we was chilling. But then they started jarring too.

And then they started looking at me just assuming that I was going for Ja and that didn't feel the safest. I made it. No, no, no, I'm going for Ja. No, no, I'm rooting for Fat. No, no, no, I just left.

I just recorded a pod. I said Fat Ja. It's not me, guys. Right? The energy started to change in there a little bit. Listen. Oh, shit. We missed Fat Joe, Loki.

See? Oh, maybe we missed another record. No, no, no. Oh, Loki. That's the name. Got it. It's murder. You're supposed to lose that.

Keep going. But he could have won if he wanted to. He couldn't. Sure he could. Job went second. He couldn't win Sure he could. Ja went second. He couldn't win. That's what I'm saying. Starting with the gutter.

Couldn't win. Playing first. You play Flojo. You play Flojo. If I was Ja, when he would have played Flojo. Okay, so if I'm going first, I'm not playing Flojo first. I'm playing all I do is win. Yeah.

Yeah. Now what you going to do? Right. I'll come back with can I get her if I'm Ja. Good. And now we got a good round. Let's dance, nigga. Yeah. Now what you gonna do? Right. I'll come back with Can I Get Her if I'm Ja. Good. And now we got a good round. Let's dance, nigga. Yeah.

But Flo-Jo against his murder, I don't think is a contest. And y'all know I love Flo-Jo. You do. My lifestyle is one of his joints. It shouldn't have been right after Flo-Jo. That is not gonna be Can I Get Her What What. Even if you don't know what josh playing yeah you shouldn't play my lifestyle after that right especially going first correct find out paper

touching remix let me just go through his his joints and then by the time we get to annie up all the way up john blaze john blaze shouldn't have been there uh right there but that's fine by the time you get into this run all I do is wind up Before switch comes on The building is already Looking at this battle away Well We in the building I'm looking at the battle

A little different Wait I'm looking at the battle A little different When you You bring Okay I like Remy doing Puns verse

In deep cover I like that I did too It brought energy I like that Dope Andy up No Fan Andy up what Y'all going too far Guns vs. Deep Cover. I like that. I did too. It brought energy. I like that. Dope. Annie Up?

No. Fan. Annie Up what? Y'all going too far. She shouldn't have been doing Annie Up. This is not Fat Joe and Friends. She shouldn't have been able to perform Annie Up in any verses. Correct. In this verses.

Correct. See, I disagree with that. I disagree with that too. How do y'all disagree with that? This is Fat Joe vs. Ja Rule so you going too far to me

when that nigga I won't be mad at that that's really his artist yeah I understand your point he needed to I'm neutral in this like

when it's me vs. you it's either the records you wrote you produced you rapped on you not somebody that you put on but if i'm not mad

at soldier boy playing the same record five times which i wasn't i loved it like if i got if i got 12 hits i wasn't mad at monica playing the who shot your remix in her verses like if i got 12 13 hits fam do what you got to do for the other seven and you said and you said i don't mind that i me personally we could have you said you wouldn't have been mad if the Lox bought Mesa. Well, they own records together. You get what I'm saying? No, I'm just saying this. Correct.

Y'all went too far to me. When that nigga played Can I Get Her, we looked at each other like, whoa. We three in. Then that nigga played Murder Graham. He said, yo, you forgetting. I'm one of the three. Yeah. He told the nigga, yo, I'm one of the three. Yeah. He told the nigga, yo,

I'm one of the three. And we know who the other two are. It was over, right? Well, when Murder Graham was recorded, he was 100% one of the three. Number one. And number two, we don't pay that lineup enough attention. DMX, Hov,

and Ja Rule early when they're all in competition. Yes. Like for those, and I hate to say this word, but for those three hit makers, yuck, to be together on a joint, man. Yeah. We forgot

that. And for Ja Rule to still deliver the amount of hits that he delivered being probably the third behind Hov and and x yeah that speaks volumes man yeah i don't know why y'all give him his crap yo keep it don't say we it was y'all them somebody it was never joe that nigga ja rule is what's something like he don't really be getting the props because of whatever happened with the 50 Cent And all that shit That nigga Ja Rule Was a staple in hip hop

If not the guy In the 2000s Absolutely I agree And bigger than hip hop He was a pop staple too He was in movies He was

Like yo Niggas wasn't really giving him His just due No doubt Going into this battle Between the 50 shit And then the fire festival shit All of that, yeah.

Which it's terrible that he got like a bad rep. But again, dog. He got hits though. You can, undeniable. You don't say. Yeah. The problem is, and it's the same thing that happens with anybody. Once they are, and I say these fickle fans when I say they.

Once they off you. They off you. That's true. No, no, no. Not just that they off you. They'll rewrite everything you's true. No, no, no. Not just that they off you. They'll rewrite everything you ever did. Yeah, they'll write you off. You was never hot.

Like, you bring up, prior to this versus you bring John Name up now. I mean, prior to this versus you bring John Name up, he's getting no props. Yeah, he's not. Even for the run. For our age group, he would. But not what he should get. Not what he should get. Not even in our age group

he should get nah 30 and under niggas not gonna know the girls know they do it was women sitting behind us that was in they 50s

quoting every line my nigga every fucking line that was the other thing did you ever I thought it came on I don't see it on this list did I shot you

come on you mean Fat Joe yeah yeah it came on. I don't see it on this list. Did I Shot Ya come on? You mean Fat Joe? Yeah. Yeah, it did come on. I don't remember where. I don't see it on this list. It was early though. It was before.

It was early. Yeah, it was. I don't see it here. That's all. It was early. It might have been with the My Lifestyle. I forgot.

Yeah, he did play I Shot Ya. He did a couple joints where he put two songs. And it was early on. It wasn't. But that was also, you shouldn't have done that. You know what I'm saying? He needed to.

Yeah, I was going to say he kind of had to. He needed to. Bro, by round four, the weight was like this. And I think he knew it. And he knew that. And then by round eight, it was like, yo, chill. This is not even fair. Like, this is watching Floyd versus Arturo Gatti.

He's beating his ass. He put it on me. Round eight. That's when it was. Low mo. And Vita. That was the turning point. That's what I tweeted right then.

I said, yo, my bad, y'all. The roof damn near came off the building. When Vita ran out that bitch, the roof came off the building. For Vita. Yes. Yeah. That was amazing. It was.

And I was happy to see her. Me too. Yo, we was bugging. Like, yo, stop. Yeah That was amazing It was And I was happy to see her We was like Oh this Yo we was bugging We was like Like yo stop Stop stop We managed to be Looking at each other

Like we gotta stop doing this We looked at each other Like oh We can't be going crazy For Vida yo Yo Yes you can Nah

It was a moment It was a moment Cause he told That's a moment I wanna Get your shit off But I have a question I wanna to ask y'all now. Okay.

About? The nigga said, yo, I got friends too. Mo comes out. Oh, because. Niggas knew Mo. I forgot. I really did. When Vida ran out that bitch, the crowd went, lost their minds.

Well, when Remy came out to, because this happened before, when Remy came out and did the pun record, crowd went crazy. They went nuts. It was like, ooh, that's a moment. He's back in here. And then he brought out. Remy came out and did the pun record. Crowd went crazy. They went nuts. It was like, ooh, that's a moment. He's back in here. And then we brought out Remy looked great too. We were like,

yo, if he played twins, like, damn, who would do punk that would be ill to have somebody do punk first? I was just so happy to see my sister on stage.

Listen, I don't want to talk about her because you'll never get an unbiased review of Remy from me. She did great, man. No, she killed it, great man I was just happy to see her

to be able to do that have the breath control to do it then she Instagrammed that she he just asked her that the night before that's no small task

hell no a big pun verse that verse in particular right and they're going back and forth you gotta

you know what I'm saying you gotta when you're doing a back and forth you gotta not only memorize your spots but you gotta memorize his spots to know when you're coming back and forth. You know what I'm saying? When you're doing a back and forth, you got to not only memorize your spots, but you got to memorize his spots to know when you're coming back in.

And ain't no chorus verse chorus shit. And they drop in the beat. They drop in the beat on the pun part. And contrary to popular belief, the dead in the middle of little Italy part is probably the third or fourth hardest thing to say in whatever that verse is. Yeah.

When he got in that oodles and noodles and suburbs and synergy, but whatever that is at the end, I can't. I'm not playing it. But the verse is amazing. So that was great. I thought Fat Joe looked great, sounded great. His energy was great. But Ja, when Ja is that Ja, it's not too many.

It's not too many. Wait, but wait, wait, wait. Time out, too. Ja, yo, rappers, young rappers, if you're going to rap over your songs, take a note. That motherfucker, he sounded exactly like his record. Over the vocal, you couldn't even tell that he was over the vocal. At least where we were at. No, I was going to get to it. In the building, you could not tell that he was rapping over his vocal.

Yo. Because he sounds exactly like that. Ja's that's impressive crazy that's impressive and you start talking about breath control giant old spring chicken neither that nigga a little older that nigga held his own yo his stage show was crazy he was animated he was running around he did all of that shit even though he was lip syncing a little bit, it was low. No, no, it was low. So you heard primarily Ja. Nah. When we had the dip set shit, you heard the records. The records.

This shit right here, you heard Ja. Those motherfuckers don't sound like that. That's the thing. We as purists, I guess, always get mad at people for rapping over their words because they don't sound like it. So it sounds like a mess. But when Ja did it, in certain people, they sound exactly like the record. I don't care.

I can barely tell that he was rapping over the song. When him and Ashanti started ad-libbing, that nigga sounded like Ja. By song nine, people in the building were texting me saying, Fat Joe probably just don't have the hits to be able to keep up with Ja. And while that's true, I don't think he needed hits to do it. I just think he needed better sequencing. He needed the ability to change up his game plan in the moment that's tough to do in battle rap you you uh in battle rap let's say that's that's like the guy that you just wrapped your verse and now

i'm gonna freestyle the next eight bars in response to what you just said and now then i'll get into my written verse some of them make it look effortless that's a hard skill it is it is yeah i told you a couple battle rappers who told me they was like yo when i write my verse i'll write and leave four bars open just to rebuttal so you gotta know your verse what you're rebuttaling. And then dive back into more written shit. Yeah, that's just hard. The ability to construct. Oh, this is more pure shit, but whatever. The ability to be able to construct while your opponent is rapping to you in real time, while the crowd is responding in real time.

You know how people turn the music down when they're parking? The ability to have to get to only hear your thoughts and still be in the moment and put that together and deliver it in four minutes. Fam. It's tough. So when you see

Jai up there talking to the DJ. That was my favorite part, bro. This is spades. You know what the cards are in the deck. Yes,

that's true. You just don't know when they're going to play it. You don't know when they're going to play it, but you got to be ahead of them. Good analogy. Good analogy.

Yeah. And you got to be ready. He came out leading with like the Jack of Hearts and shit. No, so when this nigga pushes his deuce of diamond,

I'm jumping up on and talking to the DJ. As soon as Joe would start playing his record, Jai was next to the DJ. As soon as Joe would start playing his record, Jai was next to the DJ like. Yeah. Yeah. I kept talking like, yo, look, look, look.

He was ad-libbing, bro. As soon as the song start, I'm going in the back. He was ad-libbing. Like, what we got in the top. Chris Gotti over there looking cool, calm, and poised. See, that was another sign that shit wasn't going Fat Joe's way. Chris Gotti should have been sweating on the side over there. Jaws DJ is smoking a cigarette, I think, right now.

No, I just think his song selection was off. I think he bought out. See, what you're saying about Rim, you know Fat Joe is for his team. So you know he was coming out. Cool and Dre. Dre. That was Dre. You know Dre was coming out. Cool and Dre. Dre. That was Dre. You know Dre was coming out.

I don't think he should have came out. But should he have come out right then? No disrespect to Dre. Cool and Dre are amazing producers. I see that he's trying to get into his rap lane. Well, they got an album they put out. Yeah, I know. And that's great.

This is not the time for that. This is not the place for that. That's all. That's all. And I would have expected Fat Joe to know that. Yeah. But then you're conflicted with who you are. You know Fat Joe going to put his people on.

Of course. That's what he does. You know you're going to perform the single off his album. That's who he is. I think he was kind of overconfident. But I would have been if I was him. Not me. But I also don't.

Not me. I watched his recap shit and heard what he had to say about it. He knew going in, I don't really stand a chance here, so I'm just going to try to make it as entertaining and good of a show as I can. Really? What I saw him say then was, yo, call me crazy. I think I won. Yeah, he said that.

Throughout the duration, he said, you're getting your ass whipped right now, John. I don't know what, listen, this ain't nothing against Joe. Yeah, but he was on stage saying, yo, you just played three songs. You ain't get no pop from the crowd. And we looking like, what crowd? We in here going nuts. Yeah, we went nuts. What are you talking about?

I underestimated that, too. Let me apologize to Ja Rule. Boy, was I wrong. I said some of your songs maybe didn't age the greatest. But that wasn't me from my opinion. That was me thinking about what you kids have been saying since 50 cent distal yeah but that's the internet you know what else we missed too but it's before the internet too joe those are kids but you know what else we missed about that hold up real quick but

it's before the internet too when john when john wrote and released wonderful as a single with uh r kelly the public was done with him there was no internet and I was in the streets saying, this record's a hit. Why aren't we fucking with, so it's, yeah, some of that now, but it existed then too.

Y'all was saying, who's saying, somebody's saying, I'm not. I was just saying, for Joe's recap, he said, I know going into it,

he has 17 number ones, I don't think he has 17 number ones, 17 top tens, but whatever. He's like, I knew I was an underdog, no one else wanted to battle Ja, Ja's my brother, so I wanted to battle him. No one else wanted to battle Ja. Ja's my brother,

so I wanted to battle him. I'm not saying that he was saying that he, he was saying, I won. I think I won. I think I won. But it sounded like, if you infer the other comments that he made,

he knew he was in an uphill battle going into it. Definitely. That's all I'm saying. Definitely. I think that. But Ja's records did not age poorly, by the way. No.

I think his, to Jonah, to Joe's point, where, like you said, them kids would have us thinking that. Yeah, the kids. But you know what? The kids wasn't who was in the building. That's the point.

That right there. Like, the kids didn't give a fuck about this, to be honest, would you? I don't even. This wasn't for them. And my experience with the kids, I have nieces, nephews, my girls, still in her late 20s. She's got cousins. We go to her parties. They play Ja Rule, and it works.

So when the kids on the internet say Ja Rule's a wash, I don't believe it. That's a whole ass wife you got. That's true. Yeah. Yo, but I remember when Clap Back came out. I'm still learning. I'm still learning. I know.

It's new. It's new. It's new. I remember when Clap Back came out. It hit in the club They thought that was going Re-establish him It didn't

Yeah I was never a huge fan of that record No I'm just saying But it was It was still a club banger Yeah It wasn't what they thought It was going to be

So he kind of Fell by wayside Dog This nigga had to run And it showed So And the people in the building that bought tickets

were of our age group. Yup. Fat Joe not playing the Leanback remix is a travesty. There's nothing to say about it. That is a travesty. I know he played Leanback.

I understand. I'm saying play both. I'm saying that as the guy that was happy that Soulja Boy did what he did. I understand if your strategy is different and you feel like, that should have come on. Did y'all have a problem with him playing the pun record?

No. Not at all. He should have played more. I agree. He should have played more pun records. And Terror Squad. That's what I thought he would do. Terror Squad records.

I had a problem with the pun record personally. I did. Why? Again, just like what Josh said. Yo, it has to be you. It gotta be something you. Out of 20 joints, pun is the pun. Pun is pun.

Right? I delivered pun here. I paid for this record. I would've played, you could catch me in that cherry wear. I would've had all those Spanish niggas that was around us were supposed to jump us when Donnell Jones came on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a fact, though.

Yo, anybody put a light up in the site. Fam, Fadjo was supposed to put. I just knew he was going to do that. He was supposed to do a big punch. Cash me in a cherry win. Yo. I disagree. I disagree.

I disagree with that, though. I think one, I don't think he should have flooded us with punt records. I think he should have played the one that he played. I wasn't mad at him playing the with that, though. I think one. I don't think he should have flooded us with pun records. I think he should have played the one that he played. I wasn't mad at him playing the one that he played. I don't give a fuck. Or he should have done one of them. In the same way Josh said it.

Same way he was putting his records together. Why wasn't there a pun medley? That's what I was going to say. He should have done a round where it was just three puns. JaRu's supposed to have to stand in front of this. This is my artist. What he was ready for. This is his last single before he died.

Nah. No, he was ready for it, but what he said, when Ja said, yeah, he was like, nigga, it's in your record. He was like, yeah, but I produced. He said, producing mean you push the button. He said, you ain't producing. Yo, Ice, let me tell you this.

Let me tell you this. Hold on. Let me tell you this. Had Ja Rule, I mean, had Fat Joe done It's So Hard the way it was supposed to be done, it's nothing for Ja Rule to do but shut the fuck up. Anything you say in response is in bad taste now. That's true. You're going to stand there and salute Big Pun like I am and like this whole building is.

That's true. And then play your record. That's true. He was doing the alley-oops, leaving it to where Ja Rooker just slam dunked the shit, same as Dipset in the locks. But this light should have went off in that building. Light is up. Remy, everybody should have been a unified,

old to big pun from hip-hop and versus our biggest hip-hop platform. Yeah, come on, them niggas. Ice tapped me in the building. Yo, every Spanish dude I see in here look like they stabbed somebody on the way here. On the way there. And they did. Yo, look at these niggas. Ice tapped me in the middle. Yo, every Spanish dude I see in here look like they stabbed somebody on the way here. On the way there. And they did.

I'm talking about, yo, look at these niggas, yo. This nigga cut somebody walking in here. A few of them is my niggas. A few of them is from old, old X-Bar days. Like, you niggas. Like, oh, shit. Yo, I'm old. I'm cool with some niggas.

I should not be cool with them. I don't notice it till I go out. Nah. And that would have won the crowd. Yeah. It would have changed momentum a little bit. You still might have lost, but it wouldn't have been in that fashion. It wouldn't have been a model.

We would have respected... I don't know what's going on with Fat Joe and Tony Sunshine. All I need is you to come on. Let me ask y'all a question. Was y'all mad at the Nelly record and Nelly doing hot in here? No.

No? I'm not mad at it because it's still an ode to hip hop. It's hip hop. And at that point, we all know that that was not

in the verses. That was just, he's here. That's just entertaining us. It's my man. Give me some entertainment. I'm just asking, if I'm,

like I said, if this is a me versus you, I don't, this is not you and friends This is what I'm mad at It's Nelly It's hot in here The nigga came all the way to New York

To perform with me If he did that Yo get that nigga some time He came to New York Cause he knew who was over there He seen them boots You see he went over there To get that hug

Ashanti look Ashanti look like Them boots That nigga called Joe Yo you hear me I'll be there Them boots though Them boots and her Yeah Them She. Yo, you hate me? I'll be there. Them boots and her.

Yeah. Them, sheesh. Everything about her. Her. That night. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

And you know they called me in the Sean Theater. I think Tony Sunshine was on stage too, by the way. I could be wrong about that. Then why didn't All I Need come on? I don't know. You know, gangsters don't lie or get hurt by lies. Yeah, I don't know what, I don't understand what was happening up there. I don't.

I think it was bad song selection. And I think the sequencing of the songs wasn't the greatest. That and not being prepared to audible. You have to be, you got to be able to audible. I'm sorry. You have to. You can't go in there and say, oh, this is my set. This is what I'm doing.

Not against him. Because you don't know what the other person is doing. No, not against that. That's ill-prepared. That nigga's a tornado. You came in there playing around. That nigga Ja Rule is fucking Ja Rule, bro. Like, again, I think he was overconfident.

I really do. Even in his demeanor on the stage, like, Ja, you're getting mopped up right now. And I'm like, where's the mop? I don't see it. We were looking at each other like, yo, man. I ain't wet, nigga. Like, John, you're getting mopped up right now. And I'm like, where's the mop? I don't see it. We were looking at each other like, yo, Floyd ain't wet, nigga.

Like, for real. I just didn't. I think it was showmanship. Who are we calling, bro? Oh, man.

Who's your man? He won't even answer my calls, man. Who's Joe Button? You won't even answer my calls, man. I have to do that bullshit I said. I can't answer. Yeah, man. Buttons, what's going on? Hello, this is Joe Button from the Joe Button Podcast. May I speak to Ja Rule, king of the verses,

not to be played with. Ja Rule with timeless classic smashes. Hold the fuck up, man. Hold the fuck up. Ja, I can't believe that you have this great of a fantasy football team, and you won the verses, and you didn't get fiery festival jail time. Come on, man. All the fuck up.

All the fuck up, man. John, I owe you an apology, so I want to apologize to you on air, to your face, or to your phone. I'm sorry. I thought that Fat Joe would be able to compete. I thought he would be able to contend and even record you under a bridge somewhere, but I was wrong, and I should have never thought that, and my bad.

I have all the respect for Fat Joe, but I owe you an apology, and I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry. I appreciate that, my brother. I appreciate that. You know what I'm saying? I appreciate it. I can't even believe I was so wrong, though. Like, why you...

If I would have known that you was going to play It's Murder and Murdergram, then I would have known what type of time you was on. I thought you was just coming in here to J-Lo me to death. God, come on. What you thought, man? We got to listen, man. I got to listen.

I come from a whole different school of them saying man we started in in in in the streets and battle rapping and being eggs and then the locks and you know what i'm saying so and that's that's where i'm that's that's my that's the cloth i'm coming from people don't understand that they don't realize that that's what i really enjoy you know what i mean the big records is something that i'm able to do which is love do you feel were you shocked at all at how seemingly easy it appeared or were you just like this is the bag that I'm supposed to be in? All right

Selection as far as like I think you should play You know, I think you should have played you know i think you should have catered more to the big record maker that he is instead of the street no records that yeah i thought so too i thought so too can you tell can you tell me how it felt hearing and receiving that love from not only the audience but the instagram commenters and everybody else after so many years of niggas feeling like maybe you didn't do what you did but like we know what you did but the young kids maybe try to act like they got convenient amnesia did it feel did it feel different up there let me tell you something if nobody understands versus versus is like a like a

heavyweight boxing match it's a super bowl hip hop it's it's for real it's the real deal it's not you know what i'm saying no i know versus is the real deal man it's it's you know it started out as you know a celebration this is a celebration if I'm not getting it wrong. But this is absolutely upside to the winners and the losers of versus. Mm-hmm. Is yesterday's price the same as today's price? Absolutely not.

Yeah, you know what's crazy? Yo, bud, that shit went up before the versus even started. Like, real talk, prices started going up before the versions, before we even did this shit. Like, when it was announced, the prices

was going up. Motherfuckers was calling me and I'm like, yo, y'all trying to get in early, slick, on some slick time. Nah, nigga, you know what I'm saying? You don't have to pay for this. They was like, alright, we get it, we got you, bro. And motherfuckers, the price went up before the versions even started. God damn it.

Remind the next one. Well, John, it's Ice. I apologized on Twitter after like round eight. I apologized to his face. No, no, no. Yo, let me finish. Like I said, I apologized on Twitter after round eight. I knew I was wrong.

And I want to tell you here, I apologize again for being wrong. We sorry, yo. Yeah, we fucked up. We sorry. We fucked up, yo. We shouldn't have did that. We shouldn't have did that. Put it on me as one of my favorite songs ever made.

And you played that in the first ten. You played that at like round eight. I thought, wow, the nerve, the gall of this guy. But I was rocking. When Vida came out. I thought, wow, the nerve, the gall of this guy. But I was rocking. When Vida came out, I thought I was Vida. Word. See, I thought that you and Vida had beef. I thought that you and Lil Mo had beef.

I didn't think you was going to. Oh, my God. I'm dick riding, man. It's love, baby. It's love. And you know what's crazy? I wanted to play certain records early in the first round. Because in versus, I watch all the versus.

It's important to take the early rounds. It's like a boxing match. It's important to take the early rounds. You winning the crowd. Because now your opponent is playing catch up. So now, even if I steal a couple of rounds in the late rounds, nigga, I got all the late rounds nigga i got all early rounds you know what i'm saying so you you gotta have that mentality going in or how you

gonna you know plan out your strategies replacement of the records and shit like that yo while i got you here i got a nerdy geeky rapper question for you in the verses that 90 seconds of instrumental that rocked in the beginning of clapback you used to your advantage to current current day talk the same way you talked in the beginning of that record back then when you was facing whatever you was facing how did that how did that feel like oh i got 90 seconds to just glide on my smash the building is rocking they singing with me like nah i wanted to you know usually you know we do the tv track a a clapback i wanted to play that track raw just to be like you know two turn tables and a microphone hip-hop like no no nothing you know what i mean and to let people understand

and people that feel at home and people in the audience to feel and understand like there's no vocals on this track at all it's just the beat like there's not even a tv track on that on that shit this is just the beat and so i wanted to do that to to for hip-hop you know what i mean for to let to let motherfuck let know like i do this too like i do this too i don't need to do the single i don't need to do that i do this too and so that that's why i just wanted it to be the instrumental no no tv track no nothing on clap back just just give me the raw beat and let me rap over that raw beat and i'll take it whatever time i need to set it up because it's just the track you know what i mean there's no no so so it was it was yeah all right i got

to play i got a parent question for you did your children receive any of these records differently than they did when they were out did they respect you a little different than maybe they did when it was going on. Yeah, the kids was proud, man. Made the family proud. Made the kiddies proud. They didn't get to see everything, you know what I'm saying? But they got to see Pops before. Yes, sir. And that was like my youngest son.

He was away in college. He's at Skag University out in Savannah. And he wasn't able to be there in person. I had my opportunity with my daughter. This nigga jamming right now. He want to turn the music. I can't hear you, Jam. You still playing your hits.

Y'all still doing verses. I got filming with me right now. You know, we rocked out right now. And shit. But, you know, that's the... My youngest son got to witness it in front of his new college alum out there. That was love for him to be able to see that work in front of all these new doctors. If I'd have lost it, I'd have just lived in Chile all my life.

That would have roasted him. Yeah. He wouldn't have been there for the next four years. Yeah, it's true. Yo, my last question for you. that and roasted him yeah yeah no it's true yo my last question for you you still working out like you took your shirt off

you took your shirt off and it was like old rules like I was like damn he's still doing that shit like every day baby

every day oh my god what a loser man what the fuck every day now you look great you look great man thank look great, man. Thank you, my brother.

I'm out of here. Jai, you need a big week from Robbie Anderson to remain undefeated. You not worried? Listen, I'm not worried about it, man. We going to be good this week. We going to be good this week. You don't, hey, you got longest time Brady get nine touchdowns. You don't care, huh, motherfucker?

No, listen, let me tell you something. I'm in Houston Sunday. With Bun B? Yes. Me and Bun got a show together, so we're going to watch the game. Yo, Ja Rule and Bun B have a show together in Houston on Sunday. If you're out there, check it out. Also, Ja Rule and Bun B play each other in our fantasy league.

Oh, that's dope. Yeah. I'll be glued to see who wins that. Yeah, yeah. It's going to be good. All right. I'll take a bun down. I'll take a bun down.

Job, we love you. Congratulations on your win. Our bad again. Our bad again. We sorry. We'll never do that again. We'll never do that again. That won't happen again.

Sorry. Much love. Buttons, my again. Sorry. What's up? What is my nigga love? Peace, John. All right. Yeah, nah. Sorry. And I want to shout out

to Pretty Lou who was up there and beat cancer and made the announcement that he is cancer free. Round of applause for Pretty Lou, starlet's legend.

He looked amazing, too. He looked great. He sounded great. He was emcee of the night, host of the night. Pretty Lou, welet's legend. He looked amazing, too. He looked great. He sounded great. He was emcee of the night, host of the night. Pretty Lou, we love you. We love you, and we couldn't be happier

for you, man. A salute to our Pretty Lou. Yeah, man, I'm glad we apologized to Ja Rule. Yeah, we had to. No, we had to do that. Yeah, no, it's true. Because we didn't

give him a chance. I mean, not a chance. We gave him a chance. We gave him a chance. We gave him a chance. We gave him a chance. We just had to say that. I'm not going to say that.

We were wrong. We just thought Fat Joe. We gave him a chance. We gave him a chance. We gave him a chance. We just had to say that. We were wrong. We just thought Fat Joe would do everything Ja Rule did, and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yo. Yeah, we was wrong. Shut the fuck up.

This nigga going to keep reminding us he was right. Fam, we heard you. Just when he said. I know. I got you. Go ahead. You was right. We was wrong.

No, no, no. When he said. You're better than us. You look better. You dress better. You fuck better than us. You eat better. Your food palate is better. You drive better. You fuck better than us. You eat better. Your food palate is better.

Your music taste is... He don't drive better than us. What that shit he driving? What he driving? He's trying to talk to me about cars on the way here. You can't do that no more. Our friendships change. Why?

Because you got a new fancy schmancy car? And I have an old... No, not because I have a new... Because I don't understand your car anymore. and I have an old no not cause I have a new because I don't understand your car anymore like

I don't got speakers in my seats my speakers yo that shit be making your back yo that shit be making your back jump your damn ass car

when your birthday you gonna be the first nigga I buy a car for for his life don't judge me I love you it's just a straight platonic gif

Nah that's the thing I'm buying a car For my nigga man That's what they do Cause you can't even Pull up to me no more In that shit You parking it

My neighbor's looking like Oh it's him again Nah they like Damn this nigga Getting work done At the house again Yeah yeah yeah Come on

I'ma cop that I'ma cop that That Raptor I'ma cop that Raptor Yeah you need the Raptor Yeah you don't even know What that is Yo this nigga is a fool We out you need the Raptor. Yeah, you don't even know who that is. I ain't going to let 21 come for you like that.

Yo, this nigga is a fool. My bad. We out of here. God, y'all rule some shit. I don't know. Oh, man. Yo, I just, again, I think Jai's stage show was dope. I think Jai came out there for business.

Fat Joe was a little on the showman side. Changing outfits, looking all fly. Nigga looked nice. I thought he looked great. The nigga looked nice, nice. Fat Joe's always looked great to me. I know.

And Ja came out there with black t-shirt on for business. Ready for war. I'm ready for war. So again, he ain't Jada. Outfit change.

Yeah, he ain't Jada, nigga, but he Jada. That nigga came out there ready for business. And then Fat Joe switched to beat on one of his records. It kind of felt to me like he was going for that

who shot your freestyle feel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He put on Shook Ones, I think. Yeah, Shook Ones. And the building, I don't think it went over that. It didn't respond. It didn't respond. That well.

Just game plan, man. I slept on Ja Rule's game plan, and I thought that Fat Joe would be a lot more prepared than he appeared. But Joe was hitting back. I gotta give him that, man. Toward the end. He did lose. Toward the end. He was swinging back. He was swinging what he could swing. It was too little, too late.

It was, though. Them jaw hits is too big. No, it's just the sink. Then make it a party. Then lose and party. But it never felt like a party. It felt like you was trying to get your shit off. You was trying to OGM Did some Lil Bro-Em And it just wasn't landing

Nothing landed Everything Ja Rule did landed No I'm talking about from Joe All of your Lil Bro Like all of that Nothing landed Yeah it didn't land Then Ja took his shirt off

Looked like a million bucks still The bags I bought them bags All of that to me The bags, yeah. That's not, that's not. What are we doing? I was happy that they got bags.

No, Joe, give them the bags. In the middle of war. Joe, as a bag aficionado, what did you think of this? No, I was happy they got the bags. I just don't know. Did you like the bags? Why were they getting them here? Why are you getting them on the stage?

Because, but listen, I took that as Fat Joe Moore trying to Lil Bro him again. Again. Back to me having more relevant hits. Back to me having that shit on now. Having money now. I'm giving Birkins out now. I don't know what you did 20 years ago, but right now I took it as that. And it just didn't land.

I don't think it came off that way. It didn't. Even with the hits comment when he told them, you know, I'm still making records. Like, you playing old hits. What Josh said, you was rapping before me,

you still rapping after me, and you still ain't calling me. That one hurt. You still ain't calling me. That one hurt. You can't little bro me after that.

That one hurt. You're trying to little bro me, but you still can't. If they wasn't friends, I feel like Fat Joe would have smacked the shit out of somebody at that point. I agree.

At that point, you ain't just going to keep talking fat joe like that up yeah yeah dog yeah i equate the birkins to jim jones getting the nigga to walk down the aisle and put the chain on yeah yeah they're equivalent do something else i played him the cam and his beach cheer same shit to me just something to take away from what's happening with the music and that's what josh said yo he's trying to distract y'all. He said this shit about 50. Like, yo, nigga, you lucky I don't play Candy Shop. I produce that too. See, I like when 2 Chainz brought out the pole and had the strippers come out for, yeah, I love them strippers.

But that's Ross, dog. So I liked when Ross sat there and got a massage and just looked at 2 Chainz. Now look what you're making me do. I'm just staring at you while I get massaged. Oh, Mike Dean plays his guitar. Oh, my God. Yo, nah. Yo, Ross is disrespectful.

What do you do to that? Don't get a massage while they're... Nah. What do you do? that? Don't get a massage while they... Nah. What do you do? They should have fought. Nigga ain't going to play me like that in verses. When the one-hit wonder verses come out, nigga ain't just going to play with me a certain type of way.

J. Quan, none of them niggas. Chingy. Nah, Chingy is not. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We said the one-hit wonders. Not the two-hit wonders. Not the three and four-hit wonders. Yeah, yeah, we're not whoa, whoa. He said the one-hit wonders. Not the two-hit wonders. Not the three and four-hit wonders. Yeah, yeah, we're not going to do that.

Not the three and four. No, we're not going to do that. You can stand in front of him with three hits. Ish. You have Chingy fucked up. Yeah, you really do. You do. I must.

I'm telling you. You do. I must. I'm telling you, you do. I said I must. Now, Mims. Right there is coming on. Okay.

Holiday Inn is coming on. One Call Away is coming on. Okay. Holiday Inn is coming on. One Call Away is coming on. Oh, let me tell you right now. Let me tell you right now. So, when he plays Holiday Inn, you're going to play focus. Wait, no, no, no. Stop, stop, stop. Andy's going to play Baller Baby.

You're going to throw that on there, too. You've got Chingy fucked up a little bit. Yeah, I'm not still. You don't know this? Tell me you don't know this. You heard this. You know this tell me you don't know this You heard this you know this Sing a link She versus Freddy. Wow, I want to see

I knew. It's stop. Stop ish. Fetty's beating change. Stop ish. That's why I said he don't wanna see that. Oh, okay. Stop ish. Fetty is mopping the floor with change.

100%. Every time I try to leave something keeps pulling me back. Me back. Telling me I need you and baby. I'm on four. I'm on four with chinging. This is four. No, that's five. I'm aty. This is four. No, that's five.

I'm at three. This is five? No, no, you ain't played Baller Baby. Yeah, I didn't play it. Hold up, let me let something take off right quick. Hey, let's go tight, baby. Here you go. Y'all know what this is.

Look at JD talking to Puff. Come on, Ish. It was meant to be. Here you go. Y'all know what this is. Look at JD talking to Puff. It was all good at first. Spending money, going shopping. Come on, Ish. Chingy got joints, man. Chingy ain't in the one-hit-one conversation. We got to put a little more respect on Chingy's name. Listen, quick segue before I get into Puff versus JD.

I told you all it's a versus cast. I don't know what the time is, but I got shit to get to. On that Vita, when Vita came out, what don't know what the time is, but I got shit to get to. On that Vida, when Vida came out, what would you do without them nights that you can't? Yo, me and Ish was staring in each other's eyes.

Right? So now, I'm here to ask y'all, what other girl verses get y'all all the way in your dude bag and have you looking stupid in the club, singing the verse or the song from a girl.

Foxy Kim. You're not going to give us the song, the verse? You're not going to? Come on. Oh, I thought you said verses. I thought you said what verses. Song versus lines. Something that they catch you in.

You thought you meant the show verses. Yeah, I thought you meant the show versus No, no, no, no, no, no, no And while you in the club And this shit come on And this song come on Like I told y'all a story Of me and Michael Paul

In Columbia, South Carolina In a club And Fox came on And I caught him just dancing by himself Singing too aggressively Hold up, let's take it to the top I, Fox, get my swerve on From Pure Rocks

In the six That one Well for me too That one That's why I didn't laugh At it too much Again like I'm from Jersey

We be like See money looking Aye yeah what up Aye Them little Them little Zuku skating rink shits When that shit used to come on

And I don't even skate that good I used to be risking My life flying around The skating rink When that shit used to come on But what you used to do In the club though What you used to come on, and I don't even skate that good. I used to be risking my life flying around the skating rink when that shit used to come on. But what you used to do in the club, though? What'd you say to yourself? Flirt and Kazai.

Dig you like that. Pete Baby Boy style. Hope any match. He sent me Crown Warrior. Yo, I'd be around the skating rink on one foot about to break my neck when that shit used to hit. That shit used to hit, nigga. No, that was the one.

That shit right there was the one. But there's more of them out there. There's more of them out there that y'all can't ignore. There's more current ones out there. For real. Nicki Minaj had a couple that had been come on. The Monsterverse. Everyone went crazy in the Monsterverse at a red light and looked nuts at some point.

Hell yeah. That monster. That monster. We got that monster. First things first. I eat your brains. No. When she started talking about that monster shoe,

hair brushing from my lawn. Anything with a shoe gets you right in. It gets you right in your bag. Yo, if Fat Joe would have brought out shoes instead of bags. Ashanti. Ashanti did it. Do you see them boots, nigga? Do you see them boots?

This is my thing about Ashanti. Shower with them more. She's fine. And super fine. Super fine. Super fine. That's my thing about Ashanti. Shower with them more. She's fine. And super fine. Super fine. Shower. That's my thing about Ashanti. Super fine.

Super, super, super fine. And great records. Great catalog. She sounded great, too. She's great. She sounded great. She looked great. She sounded great.

All of that is great. This is what the gossip places are saying about the Ashanti Nelly hug. And this is where I get confused. I'll get it off of Ashanti. But they're saying that Ashanti said, yo, I haven't seen or heard from Nelly since we broke up. I totally did not expect him to come over there and hug me. See how different man and woman brains are?

Let me repeat that sentence one more time. Ashanti allegedly says, yo, I haven't seen or heard from him since we separated. That was years ago. Like years, years ago. Yeah. I totally didn't think that he would come over there and do that. And man brain says, of course.

If I haven't seen you in years and we were in a relationship i love you and i love you and maybe shit happened that's unresolved that we never talked about got closure and we're in the same building on the same show why would i not walk over here and hug you yes i'm gonna move fat joe to the side yes i'm gonna move i'm gonna walk across the stage to make sure you know that however shit ended with us. Ain't none of that today.

I love you. I'm happy to see you. You look great. And you look great. I'm definitely giving you a nice hug. I don't know why women don't get that.

I get it. I'm taking it off of Shanti now. Please don't think that I'm trying to trash Shanti. I'm not. I get it though. I get why women

would think that because you don't know how things ended. We can assume they didn't end the great. Okay, so let's say I get why a woman would think that because you don't know teach us you don't know how things ended and we can assume they didn't end the great okay so let's say it ended real terrible

and there's a it was like like we ain't the shit ain't the shit ain't been resolved I'm not gonna hug you and say hello in the same building

on the same stage we well that's why I'm walking over to you because i know you're not gonna but if you take the initiative to hug me okay but you're saying i didn't her saying i didn't think he would do that is like if we ended badly we we know we don't fuck with each other in any way ever like it depends on it depends if you know nelly no it depends on how it does nelly's gonna do that that's why i said it depends on how if it was like a Nelly. No, it depends on how terrible. It does. Nelly's going to do that. That's why I said it depends on how terrible.

If it was like a five, I'm going to hug you. I haven't seen you in six, seven years. I love you. I love your mom. I know your family. Right. I'm going to come across the stage and hug you. Yeah.

And not just that, we're adults. Right. It was just triggering to me because too many times- That sounds good. Too many times you see this scene on the internet app and women and the narrative becomes, oh, he wants that old thing back and if that becomes the narrative then you're avoiding what happened which is yo we ain't really spoke since we broke up i'm adult you can't yeah you can't play both

years we're adults that's what we're both successful yeah yeah and we both still look nice we right nelly look nice nigga muscled up look nice hairline all yo we both still look nice. Nelly looked nice. Nigga muscled up. Looked nice hairline. Yo, we both in a great space. All right, now back to these two. She's not saying like, get the fuck out of here. No, she gave him a hug too. She just said, I didn't expect you to do it. That wasn't really a warm hug she gave that nigga neither.

But I didn't expect you to do it. We ain't been on speaking terms. Again, how they ended could have been very, very, very bad. And no matter how much time passed. So I think that's the determinant factor. Yeah, I agree. That's why I said it depends on how bad the breakup was. For sure.

You know what I'm saying? Just some regular 20-year-old fuck shit. I got exes right now that there's no, I don't have a beef with you. If I see you over there, I'm not going out of my way to hug you or anything. And we had love then. But it's gone. All love lost. You over there doing your thing, I of my way to hug you or anything and we had love then but it's gone all love lost you over there doing your thing i'm over here doing my thing we don't have to cross paths i'm not going out of my way to come see the only exes i have like that short short

term exes i have that i feel a couple month dating type shit anyone i dated for a long amount of time if i see them i don't have or they see me i don't have none of that, period. I have one person that I wouldn't cross that line in the concrete to hug. But outside of that, everybody else, I'm in a good space. That might be that one person with them. I know. I'm just saying outside of that, I'm in a great space with everybody I've ever been in a relationship with. But I'm just saying, it is possible. Like you just said, you got one person you would not cross the line to go give a hug.

There's one so whatever the reason is for you in that one there could be a reason there that she wouldn't expect him to cross the line to come give her a hug that's all i'm saying i guess no i'll say with the people that i wouldn't go across just because we weren't like maybe that cool you know anybody i wouldn't go across the hug both know it. We both know it ain't happening. We both know it ain't happening. I was just about to say that. When one person feels like, hey, we cool enough to hug. It wasn't that bad, evidently. It wasn't as bad as one person think.

I disagree. It could also be one person. It wasn't as bad as one person think is what I said, which agrees with you, so there's no need for you to refute it. Clearly, Nelly didn't feel like, oh, I can't hug her or speak to her. Or Nelly didn't feel like, and this is what's real important, too, when you're in bed,

Nelly didn't feel like none of the men around Ashanti that loved her would stop him. True. That's important. That's real. That's true. Because, again, if it was that bad, the niggas in your camp are going to be like,

whoa, whoa, whoa. Chris Gotti ain't letting him Do none of that Yeah Chris Gotti was there Sounded like he was listening Sounded like he gave a little chuckle Listen everybody looked great Sounded great

I love this celebration Of our OGs and O-heads I love the How'd you like being there As opposed to watching it on TV I like being there Being there was great I like being there

I did It was great energy All of that Like everybody was just Happy festive happy to be outside vibes. Shit was dope. It was dope. I like being there because certain shit just doesn't translate when you're watching. True.

Hearing a crowd rap word for word in a tight building and it's loud and that shit is echoing, a little different. Yeah. Like, it made certain records hit harder for me that I know if I'm watching it at home, they still would've hit. Shout out to Duro too, man.

He mixed a lot of them John records. They still sounded fucking phenomenal. Now I have a much better understanding of how the Dipset Locks energy was. Yo, and I just, you took, I was just about to say that. It jumped off the screen

from the living room. I was just about to say it. We got it from the living room, the difference in the locks and dip set songs. But now that we've been there, it was different. Because again, Josh shit hit harder than Fat Joe shit with the exception of a few. I could only imagine the energy in that building when Jadakiss was up there doing what he did versus when the dipet songs came on. The lip syncing and all of that shit.

I almost wouldn't want to have been there for that. Yeah, I'm glad I wasn't there. I can only imagine. I'm glad it's in hindsight. I can literally only imagine. I'd have loved to have been there for that one. Just after experiencing this, that's what I wish I was in the building for. Yeah, I might need to be in the building for future versuses.

Whenever they find an opponent for Busta Rhymes, I may need to be in the building for future versuses whenever they find an opponent for Busta Rhymes I may need to be there he was in the building gave me a big Busta Rhymes hug Busta I love you of course Swiss was there shout out to Swiss as well fans really been kicking my ass about my

Omarion Trey Songz fantasy versus matchup I'm gonna take that as y'all just sleep on Omarion my ass about my Amarion Trey Songz fantasy versus matchup. I'm going to take that as y'all just sleep on Amarion, but I'll pretend y'all are right. I found two potential Trey Songz opponents.

I got one as well. I'm done talking. Well, Neo already did versus, which is why his name is not in this. Oh, okay. I'm not mad at them repeating some of them. And some of these people should be able to repeat a verses. Yeah. Nio definitely has won.

And get better matchups. Nelly. Nio and Nelly. Nio had a bad matchup with Jonte. A lot of people that had bad Wi-Fi, I would like to see them do it again with good Wi-Fi. I would like to see Manny Fresh in a different verses. Yeah, me too. Me too.

I didn't like that. Me either. No, he got handled. It just wasn't a different versus. Yeah, me too. Me too. I didn't like that. Me either. No, he got handled. It just wasn't a good matchup. It was a terrible matchup. I didn't like the way Manny executed his shit. A lot of drops, a lot of jokes. It's wartime.

It's wartime. But in the beginning, it wasn't wartime. It's always wartime. No, in the beginning, it was just me versus you. Hey, that's because y' all trying to be friendly and friends. And yo, you inspired me. Yo, this record. Nigga, nah.

This is war. This should not be mistaken for anything else. We could be friends later. Kobe said that. We friends later. He stepped on his court. I'm trying to kill you, man. Trey Songz versus the fans are saying Jeremiah.

I say. Oh, wait a minute. I don't think he got a lot of features. I don't think that's bad. I don't think that's bad. Trey got a lot of features. Jeremiah got a lot of features. Yeah.

Trey walks. Jeremiah could feature his way to 20. Yeah. And I think Trey Songz still wins that. But Trey Songz, Miguel could get interesting. Maybe. I think Trey Songz still wins. I think Trey takes these niggas in the deep water and drowns them.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, me too. Nah, Miguel puts up a good fight. I think so too, but Trey is tough, man. Trey is tougher, man. See, the problem- Trey is tougher than people think. The problem for me with Miguel is he would damn near have to play

his whole album. Nah, he got hits off a couple of them albums though. Two. It should have been Trey Songz versus Dream if we talking about people to repeat matchups.

Yeah. The Dream is the formidable Trey Songz matchup. Or Neo. Between his pen and his songs. Or Ne-Yo. And just content. Same with Ne-Yo.

Content too. Yeah, just the similarities in the content. What do y'all think? I had Tyrese. No. No, two contrasting styles. Tyrese would have to do Tank or one of them niggas. Yeah.

Yeah, somebody from his class, not Trey. What do y'all think about, let's get into this real quick. What do y'all think about this Puff, JD stuff that's going around? I think it's a good matchup. During the versus, for those that don't know, JD was at the Garden at Hulu Theater. He posted a picture and tweeted, I'm looking for Puff.

Where is he? I'm here. Puff responded and said, your arms are too short to hotbox with God. You don't have enough hits and I could beat you using only Biggie and Mary. Puff's wrong.

Puff's smoking good. I don't know who he is. No, he's wrong. You said you don't know that? JD has a lot of hits. I don't want to sound disrespectful. Well, break down what Puff said. First one was you ain't got enough hits.

He has enough hits. He can't beat JD playing just big and merry. No, you can't. No, you cannot. No, you can't. One of my other niggas that. No, not to me, fam. He can't beat JD playing just big and merry. But I don't think anybody could just.

Big's got a hard 20 alone to go up against. Mary's got 80 that you have to deal with. Like him saying that was a cheat code. Because maybe it's true. Maybe it's not. But Mary has one of those untouchable catalogs. And when you throw Biggie in the mix, he could do it. Now, would he win? JD's got Usher and Mariah that's what I'm trying to say I don't know if you beat Usher

and Mariah with Mary and Biggie when you get into JD's 20 JD is saying the same thing that Juicy J is saying the same thing that TI is saying they all saying yo i got 20 that i don't think y'all really are respected yeah like i got 20 that's in the top 20 of 20s yeah i think that's what they're saying so i don't think jd should be disrespected the way that he's being disrespected i agree however if there was somebody to do the disrespecting it could only be Puff it's Puff and Dre Dre

maybe Kanye, Hov Drake that ends it that's it I still wanna see track Mary Mariah I still wanna see someone

Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis track masters Stevie Wonder R. Kelly wrap this up Michael Jackson, Prince wrap this up that Michael Jackson, Prince. Wrap this up.

That's the end of the list. He's music elite. Who? J.D. J.D., absolutely. Yes. Yeah, like you just not going to be disrespecting me. But I don't like what T.I. is doing.

I don't like T.I. trying to twist it like we're back in the 90s. To say what? To say that the South has something to say. The same thing that Al Cash said at the Source Awards stage. I don't like T.I. trying to bring that narrative back in 2021. And he's saying that because

50 is kind of being dismissive in whatever T.I. is saying about the adversity. 50 is like, yeah, fam, stop. Like, stop. He is. Now, T.I. has 20 for whoever. But against 50s, 20, this is not New York bias. It kind of is.

It's not. A little bit. It is. It is. I'm telling you. A little bit it is. I don't think it is. I'm telling you it is a little bit of New York bias.

Give me your score, then, if T.I. versus 50. I don't have the score, but it's not a blowout like 50 and a lot of New Yorkers are making it to be. That's what I'm saying. It's going to be a lot closer. But if you're saying that, you're not addressing the right thing. I'm about to say something. You're not addressing the right thing. If T.I. goes first in the first 10, he gets blown up.

If they are allowed to let me jump modify it like ja let me jump in zinjo is still present and that's screaming ice they're not saying that what's he saying 50 and puff they're not saying yo you don't have 20 to compete. They're saying that, but that's not really what they're saying. What they're really saying is, yo, dog, I don't even view you in the same class. Yeah, you made a lot of joints. You got joints. You could contend it might be a bop. Fans might say you won, but who cares?

There's nothing in the world that can happen that would make me view you as a formidable opponent even if you are. Puff shouldn't say that to JD. Yeah, I was just about to say Puff should not say that. I don't even think 50 should say that to T.I. Because I'm a T.I. fan fan. But I get it. The optics and that's where

the South hate comes in at. Because up here in New York we look at our stars like they are grandiose and the niggas down South We look at our stars like they are grandiose and they niggas down south. We look at their stars like that too, so that's why it's not fair anymore. That's not true, Joe.

That's not true. That's not true. We look at them like they are stars, but they're not fucking with our stars. I totally, I could not disagree with you more on that point. You couldn't make the statement that you just made and say that Puff and 50 are saying, yeah, y'all got joints, but y'all not us.

But that's the center of my argument-ish. My argument is I don't agree with the T.I. stuff, I mean, with how they're speaking about people. But Puff can speak about whoever the fuck he wants like that. He can. It's not right that he's doing that to J.D. That's not right. That's not right.

I disagree with it. I don't want to see it i don't like it and the more i think about it jd versus puff might be the better matchup than jd versus i mean then puff versus dre because jd's got his rap bag his r&b bag his production bag also we have to give credence to jd's point of yo i actually produce I press the machines the buttons all right I do it all right it's actually me puff my right but JD is on machines that's part of his his shit like yo dog y'all gonna stop niggas that don't touch machines gotta stop treating me like I don't touch machines because I've touched machines for 40 years and it's there. It's there. I didn't know he said

Dre the only one that can get in the ring with me. That's very disrespectful. Yeah, it's disrespectful. I think Puff beats Dre. I think Puff beats Dre. I think Puff beats Jermaine Dupri. Puff gets to pull

from too many classic catalogs. Puff and Jermaine Dupri is closer than Puff-Dre to me. Me too. Which is why I think it's just a better matchup because of the R&B and hip-hop than what you too. Which is why I think it's just a better matchup because of the R&B

and hip hop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is why which would make it closer. And I think the sequencing and who goes first, last,

all of that shit matters. I don't think this is a walk in the park for Puff. I'm not saying that he can't win. Of course he can win this fucking Puff. Like, be clear.

Maybe not a walk to the park. Maybe a two mile run. I disagree. Maybe a two, to the park. Maybe a two-mile run. I disagree. Maybe a two, three-mile run. I see 12-8. Put it this way. Puff can lose this to JD if they battle. The eight would be Usher-Mariah records.

Puff is not losing that. That's not true. He's not losing that. That's not true. That's not true. That nigga could pull some Tamia shit out. That nigga wrote a lot of shit. That nigga could pull.

You're not beating nothing in Puff's catalog with Jagged Edge and Tamir. That's not true. All right. That's not true. We don't know what it goes up against that round. We don't know who. Yeah. What it all boils down to is the same thing we find out.

No, no, no. Stop that. It don't go down to nothing. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We can pretend. We can pretend right now.

Hold on. Hold on. What it all boils down to is the same thing we end up saying after we predict every versus and we see what happens. Same shit you said about Fat Joe, how you could have put a better set than what he played. When you have a, wait, let me finish. When you have such a vast catalog and you can only pull 20, you might fuck around and pull the right 14 and miss a couple.

That's true. And then you leaving the door and pull the right 14 and miss a couple. That's true. And then you leaving the door open for the other person to pull the right 18 or the right 20. Oh, that's true. Everything you're saying. That's all I'm saying. Everything that you're saying is true. Please, please, let me respond to him. All of that is true.

All of that is true. What's on the flip side of all that being true? It'd be really hard for Puff to fuck up a 20. Sometimes at the spade table, Ice, the other team gets 13 books. And it's nothing you could do. You much better than them. It's nothing you could do.

Sometimes you get a hand, you might make board, you make three, there was a chance to make board, you fucked it up, you missed it. But sometimes the other team gets all spades and face cards and know what you got to do sit there and play the hand out as the better player puff is one of those if you pick his worst records it looks like 13 books you bugger no i'm not bugging all right cupid is coming on and when cupid comes on a high level jermaine dupree track has to come on we could play it out remember you said fat joe should have known the records that were coming and he didn't prepare

for it we can do that but see that's the thing wait let me finish no because you're not responding to me you're interrupting my point saying hold on but you're not responding to me. You're interrupting my point saying hold on, but you're not responding to me and I don't want to yell. You don't like when that happens, do you? No, I don't mind it. We just have to talk through it. Well, go ahead. We just have to talk through it. Cupid is bringing something out.

Any of those 112, anywhere. Any of those 112 big singles. Peaches and Cream. Dance with me. Any one of the big ones is bringing something big out from fucking, from Jermaine Dupri. Mace Records is bringing big records from, listen, you're going to need more than Criss Cross. You're going to need more than The Brat. You're going to need more than Jagged Edge.

You're going to need more than some of that stuff. Let me go back more than the brat. You're going to need more than jagged edge. You're going to need more than some of that stuff. Let me go back. Oh, wait. You can reply to that. Get your shit on. Let me go back to my earlier point about the difference between the 90s and now. In the 90s, Atlanta was really fighting for something. They was really fighting for everything.

And they won. That Andre Three Stack Source Awards moment is is an iconic probably top 10 moment in hip hop because of all that atlanta did afterward all we've seen new york do in the interim is put the proper atlanta acts on the right pedestal new york new york honors Young Thug and Future The same way that any other town Not Atlanta Honors Young Thug and Future We get excited

The album when Young Thug had the lavender dress on We were excited We was This is not like the 90s So it's not fair for him to push that The South is on top The South is winning And they keep they have an

entire farm system of niggas that's rocking yo the east coast helped to break the migos i'm sorry atlanta y'all might not want to hear some of that we did that's true that's not new york arrogance a thousand percent that's not new york being cocky the east coast broke the migos that's not what i just said that's not what i just said that's not what I just said. That's not what I just said. That's not what I just said. I was like, who was the East Coast? What do you mean? And I got your point when you first said it. I didn't get that.

That's why I'm just asking what you meant. His first point is, back in the day, you could say, yo, we not getting our just due. Right? You can't keep pushing that narrative today. No, no, I agree. Because nigga, Hot 97 and Power 105 is nothing but Atlanta on the radio right now. Atlanta runs hip hop. And for the last seven, eight, nine years, if you really want to be honest.

They run New York hip-hop. New York just starting to get our shit back. Yeah. But Ice knows that. Ice knows that. So, I mean, no, you're not going to be that divisive when you're talking about two of our great, you're talking about two of the best

to ever come out of New York. Yeah. Like, be clear. Queens is probably, if you take it out of New York, it's one of the best hip-hop places in history. And you got to deal with 50 from there. Was he the best rapper? No.

Do we have 20 records over the years that most of the rest of hip-hop can't deal with? Yes. All right, let me ask you a question real quick. That's not just Atlanta. That's hip-hop. Let me ask you a question. I'm just speaking on T.I., J.D.

Still in Zimmo. The decisive comment you spoke on. Yeah, T.I. know better than that shit he did, man. Can they have a chip on their shoulder, though? J.D. can. But I'm just saying. And T.I. Yes, yes, yes.

Both of them. Yeah. So his comment could be coming from that chip as well. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's fine. The chip should fuel you, not fuel a narrative.

You don't get to try to make us look at Puff and 50 and their 20 with a slight to prove your point. Your point is right, and we all agree with you. It just don't apply to Puff and 50. Not necessarily look at it with a slight though it's just saying like again the chip yo i'm t i might say i feel like i'm getting discredited or or saying yo i don't i don't have your family t i could be like yo because i'm this it's the south shit all over again why don't i have enough why can't i go up against this when 50 declined buster said t i'll, Busta said, T.I., I'll take you. I'll mop you up.

T.I., I'll take you. You don't have to talk to him. I'm from New York. I got the records. What's up? And T.I. said, no thank you. No thank you. He gave him the same no thank you that 50 gave to him.

And what's the difference? Busta Rhymes is your senior. He has more than 20 records he's probably a bit more hall of fame than you that's not because he's from New York that's just what it is right he was in a group he was on too many classics I was offended for New York no you but I don't take it upon myself to jump in and say, yo, Atlanta, who the fuck are y'all to do that to Busta Rhymes? I didn't do that. So who the fuck is T.I. to do that to 50 or Puff? No.

No, it's not okay. We love T.I. And I want to see him in the verses. It's my peer. It's my brother. He got joints. But don't try to push that New York bias narrative when we talking about two niggas that's in,

fam, it's 50 and puff. Like, say it about other people. I didn't want to come in here with this rant because people already say how I give it up for puff. But what do you do when more money, more problems comes on? Juicy. Fam,

fam, what do you do when Faith I used I used to love me Comes on Like I mean man

Like Yeah Yo I wish Carl Thomas Is coming on These are my B and Z Yo here to go to shit That didn't work

Hit me now Here to go to artists What would he get It's like a D record for him That's a huge record We ain't It's like a D record for him. That's a huge record. We ain't going nowhere as a D record for him.

What are you going to do when he come out there with some long ass jacket with the city girls? I'm the definition of half man half. You're going to have to play something big.

We're not saying that because we dick riding puff and we're from New York. I heard hypnotized everywhere in this country. One more chance gets to come on. I get it. I'm with it we from New York. I heard hypnotized everywhere in this country. One more chance gets to come on. I get it.

Man, I'm not with it. I get it. I get it. But I don't think that Puff should be talking to J.D. like that. I agree. I'm saying 12-8.

I say that's the one that should happen. That's what I say. 13-7 is my score. Because what's going to happen is J.D. gets to go last to some of them songs. We not acting like

that nigga can't go pull out the understanding. That nigga can pull out some shit, bro. Understanding better not come on against Puff. It definitely comes on. And that's my point. It definitely comes on. It should come on. It comes on.

But it better not come on. And that is why Puff is in his own fucking world. Understanding, if Escape come out and sing it, you shouldn't do it with Puff. Because they going gonna do that And then he gonna tell you Two times that he need a girl Either one Alright so

Wait wait wait Uh uh what No no no no no This what you said Somebody say uh uh Usher gets three Did somebody say uh uh to me I said uh uh

He said it Don't look at me Usher gets three songs What are you talking about JD has to go last On ten songs Uh. Usher gets three songs. What are you talking about? JD has to go last on 10 songs. Usher wins three rounds. Mariah fucking Carrie wins three or four rounds. We not doing that like JD.

Antoine, I'm only saying what happens if understanding came on. Oh, no, no, no. You saying what I've been saying this whole segment. Usher and Mariah are going to have to do the trick. You can't play with puff with all this other shit tlc gets a round or two we're not doing that joe it's a it's a hard knuckle up tlc gets what round against biggie records it don't have to be it don't gotta be against but when you puff he could play 10 biggie records all right he can't play 10 Biggie records. All right. He can't play 10 Biggie winners.

No, he can't. I'd have to look. He can't play 10 Biggie winners. I'd have to look. I'm not saying yes. Be the fuck clear. He got five Biggie winners in the tuck. He don't got 10 Biggie winners.

I don't know. Like I said, this is the versus I want to see. I want to see it. They would have to be in like San Tropez somewhere. All right, well, let me speak for only me because maybe I'm in the minority. With all due respect to Jermaine Dupri, who's that dude. Yeah, of course.

Please. I don't have any TLC record beating Sky's The Limit from Biggie. That's me. You're out your fucking... I said me. I said me. I said me. I said me. I said me. I said me.

No, no, no, not you. You are too musically inclined and too musically knowledgeable to say Sky's the limit is going to beat Waterfalls. I don't know if JD did Waterfalls. He didn't do Waterfalls. I'm just...

No, listen to what I'm saying. He said any TLC record. That Jermaine Dupri's going to play. Oh, I don't know. I don't know what he did. I'm just saying he is... But even if you're right, Ishan, this is where I'm open to being wrong. Even if you write

Sky's the Limit has to bring out What About Your Friends? I disagree. Which I don't know if Jermaine Dupri did. I think you are giving Sky's the Limit too much credit. Well, that's me as a hip-hop head, but that's what happens in hip-hop. In hip-hop, that record is up there. Not in the world and not nationally and not...

But in hip-hop, to the heads, that record is a moment. Come on, let's move on, man. Let's move on. I don't know if we'll ever see it, so it don't matter. We're pointlessly arguing. You want to touch some more

dream matchups that you would like to see? No, that's great. That's a great argument. I'm cool. It's not a lot. I want to see Outkast. I don't know who their opponent is.

Missy? Never. Outkast and Missy? No. I do want to see who Missy... Missy needs someone. Missy. Never. Outkast and Missy? No. I do want to see who Missy... Missy needs someone. Missy needs someone. Don't shoot me.

I would love to see it. It won't happen and Outkast would win. But I would like to see Outkast, Naughty. Naughty just don't have as many songs. They don't have... No disrespect to Naughty. He's going good. I know.

I'm just saying. Put the energy on it. Don't even put all Jersey niggas in that position, man. No. I just said Outkast would win. I want to see some more. He's going good. I know. I'm just saying. Put the energy on it. Don't even put all Jersey niggas in that position, man. No. I just said Al Casper won. I want to see some

more West Coast ones, man. We've been all West Coast. I said Ice Cube. I couldn't think of nobody to go up against LL Cool J.

Ice Cube would definitely make sense. Ice Cube and LL That would be amazing. I would like to see I want to see Daz and Quick. That's what I really

want. Who wins Ice Cube versus LL? Ice Cube, LL is a nice one I'm not going to lie Am I giving up my East Coast card? No, you're not I think LL wins I think Ice Cube wins

I'm saying LL just because No, I think LL wins I'm not leaving New Jersey off this I'm going Cube That's going to be an 11-9 11 up Overtime Overtime.

Overtime game. Call it bias. I'm going. NWA is my favorite group. And some of them records is coming. I know. He's still got to stand against 25, 30 years of LL. I understand.

Come on. It's not a versus cast. Oh, it's not? Oh, okay. It's not a versus cast. Shout, it's not a versus cast. Shout out to, shout out to Timbaland, Swiss, everybody that was at that

Fat Joe, Ja Rule versus, everybody that watched it, everybody supporting it. And shout out to Triller. Yeah. Shout out to Triller, man.

Yeah, like, versus has really grown into some shit. Like, this shit is crazy. All right, shut up.

No, it's not, fam. Cause, yeah, I'd like to see it now. Hey, Joe,

guess what? Let me, let me tell you something about me. I was wrong. No, no, no, no,, Joe, guess what? Let me tell you something about me. I was wrong. No, no, no, no. Not I was wrong. But let me tell you something about me. I changed. I changed my fucking mind.

Guess what? We all do it. No, I like it. We just don't. We never say it. No, no, no. I'm quick to say it. Don't hold me to any opinion.

All right, good. Good, good, good. I like that. I don't die on the house. I don't hear from none of them, your Versus is over because we outside. We ain't even really outside. No, we outside at Versus.

Word. Now we outside at Versus. But see, I love that. We outside at Versus. Versus, proof of concept during the pandemic, and now it's a live touring act, basically, is what it is. See, that's what we talk about. D-Nice with his club, Quarantine. It is a live touring act. They're touring what it is. Let's see, that's what we talk about. D-Nice with his club Quarantine.

It is a live touring act. They're touring. Shout out to him. He just finished his last date. All of these concepts that worked during... He did some shit yesterday with Abaddu. Well, that's his shit. That's his shit.

That's what he does. Questlove opened up, I think that's Bowmore last week with a huge set that he did. Just some of the people and some of these fixtures that came to be during the pandemic how they've grown

and evolved and adapted to being outside I like it and I like to see it so shout out to them shout out to them alright I'm all

versus versus is doubt I don't have any more versus talk I also don't have anything written down because we've been in a little groove since I stopped writing things down. I don't have any more verses talk. I also don't have anything written down because we've been in a little groove since I stopped writing things down.

So I just am never writing anything down again. It's all domes. All off the top. Now, Ice, you had a bunch of shit you wanted to talk about. Issue as well. You had some depressing news for us. What do y'all want to start?

Oh, man. Depressing news. No, I just had little revelations I've been coming across. I like that. I like little revelation segments. Yeah. Like, I got to give it up. The fans are cool.

Like, you know, I wasn't a fan of none of that shit. I didn't like it. He wasn't a fan of fans. Yeah. I wasn't. He wasn't a fan of having fans. Yes. So when do you come to this?

He's got a fucking will. Epiphany. I'm starting to run into a lot of people out, and they just cool as shit. There's a lot of fans in the building at the virtual. Yeah. A ton of them. A ton of them. And people are just, I was at the mall the other day, and a dude stopped me.

He's like, yo, are you Ice? Caught me off guard. Usually I say no. You bought your fist up? Yeah, I was ready. He didn't think the real Ice would be shopping at the mall. He was like, yo, I ain't know you. I ain't know you's in Jersey. I'm like, yeah. But he was like, yo, I ain't know you. I ain't know you's in Jersey.

I'm like, yeah. But he was like, yo, nothing. I don't want nothing. Just salute. Yeah. That's how a lot of people. That's pretty. I'm cool with that.

Nah, it's dope. Actually, 100% of the fans I've met of the pod, it's just on some, yo, salute. Keep it moving. Maybe a pic. Maybe. I'd be expecting the weirdos because I've seen a lot of weirdo shit just being around other people yeah so that's why I was always anti-fan

but nah the fans are pretty cool podcast fanship is definitely different from music fanship for whatever reason I don't know what the science is behind it but I think it's because

it's it feels like they're in the room kicking it with us so it's more relatable it's more relatable it's not it's uh

mysterious mystique uh magic is happening the podcast fans are much more aware that I hate pictures It's more relatable. Yeah, it's mysterious, mystique. Magic is happening. The podcast fans are much more aware that I hate pictures than my music fans were. Even if my music fans knew because I told them, the podcast fans, because maybe I talk to them twice a week, they are clear that I am not with pictures and all that shit in the public. So when they ask me, it's like real humble. It's like, yo, if you don't mind, listen to the pod.

I don't know if you hate this shit, but real quick, I'll do it low. I'll sneak it. And I appreciate that. I appreciate the relationship growing in real time, different from an album. There was a lag in the album because by the time the album dropped, y'all are feeling some shit that I wrote eight months ago, and I don't want to perform any of this. I don't feel like this.

I disagree with some of this shit that I said and I'm not going to tell you that because y'all are like, yo, this shit changed my whole... And I'm like, well, I was wrong about some of that.

We should live. I got out of that depression or whatever. Yeah, so I mean, it's different. And you don't want to perform those songs the same because you're in

a different mood. The pod, there's no room to mistake where you are if you're a regular listener. And you know what, Joe? I think that's more a you thing because you were the rapper that,

one of the few that literally, whoever you were at that moment was who they got on the record. A lot of these other artists don't really do that. They don't give you what I'm going through today. I'm not, you know, I'm just, it's all good. Everything is all good. So they could perform them records down the line, and it's nothing.

You be in a bad head space, they're going to get that on that record. And like you said, it comes out later on. You don't feel the same way. You might not want to rap the record. Yeah, I don't want to hear none of that shit. I think with the pod, you kind of get somebody's personality, right? Like Jay-Z's been out forever. Nobody knows really how that's personality. Right. Like Jay-Z's been out forever.

Uh huh. Nobody knows really how that nigga is. Right. You know what I'm saying? He keeps a level of It's mystique. Secrecy and mystique.

Right. Magician in the hill. On a pod you talking about life relationships love your parents

your kids your this your that people kind of feel like literally they're in your living room chopping it up with you. Right. When you building an album, again, Fab's been out 20-something years. Y'all just talked about the other day.

Niggas don't know Fab is mad funny or mad silly. You don't know that because he don't carry himself like that in the public spectrum. You would have to know that being- You'd have to know him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get what I'm saying? So on a pie, it's a little different. Niggas really feel like they know you.

Niggas be arguing with me. I don't even know you, dog. Like, what are you talking about? That's the other thing these dudes be wanting to pod on the street. Like, when I'm not podding, I don't want to pod. Don't come up to the street. Don't come up to me and pod with me. Yeah, yeah.

I don't want to pod with you. I don't want to pod in a barbershop. Yeah. Sorry. The Uber pod is tough. The Uber pod. I never got that. I ain't get that. I a barbershop. Yeah. Sorry. The Uber pot is tough. The Uber pot. I never got that. I ain't get that.

I've gotten that one a couple times. Put your mask on. Yeah, he's wearing a mask. It's five. Doesn't matter. Yo, the mask don't stop nothing. People know exactly who I am through that mask. Yo, Joe Budden, cool mask.

I'm not supposed to be me, dog. Well, you do got the mask that stand out. Yeah, but I'm supposed to be hiding. And you showed them the mask. You know what I mean? It wasn't a one of one. There are more of these that exist in the world. They make these in circulation.

Oh, the fuck. That's funny, but. What else is important for us to tackle as a collective? Well, earlier, Joe, when you was mentioning, you know, people's girls being nicer to them,

I'm having that, I don't want to call it a problem. It's not a problem. It's not a problem. It's a great thing. But I have noticed, like, When she gets some straightening. Yeah,

shorty done turned up. Like, she's extra nice. It's because you're rich now. No, he got that pink, pink horsepower stuff. Park's doing that ish shit. He got that pink horsepower shit doing that issue got that pink horsepower combination

shout to cam cam made your relationship better cam saved this nigga but nah she's extra extra extra nice like yo even and i'm not complaining please be clear i'm loving all of this shit But um We came back from the Versus It was late I walked in the house At one in the morning

I was shocked you were Even allowed to go Nigga couldn't even get me A ride home He was so scared Yo yo yo She going Yo yo

I was scared Bitch get a car I got a car Bitch ass nigga Shut up And stop asking us For rides places Who's us

And get the Raptor Don't get that Regular shit Just ride yourself home No Ice don't wanna drive you home At midnight At 1230

You got a kid A wife Word I'm trying to get home And I gotta go to work in a minute You gotta get home Like you gotta get home It's only me that do

What the fuck he want Like a real ass nigga What you saying Hey go ahead What you saying What you saying Nah nah I walked in the crib.

She had like, she left me. She made Big Z. Nah, she ain't. Oh, shit. Nah, she cooking now. You know when you- Let me walk in. I'm talking about the disc Big Z.

I love Big Z. You know when you drink a lot, you usually try to take something to- Yeah, a little Advil maybe. A little Advil, yeah. I take BC powder. Oh. Huh? Bitch.

What? What's BC powder? You never seen BC powder. Bitch. What? BC powder? You never seen BC powder? It's like... It's like Alka-Seltzer? It's like aspirin. It's for the more feminine men. Aspirin and caffeine in a powder form.

Don't that sound like... That's going to keep you up though, no? That's for the feminine men. It knocks the headache out in me. It's strong enough for a man. I'm not paying. What the fuck you take? What the hell is he saying? What the hell

is he saying over here? Secret powder. He take BC powder. Are you a pitcher? That's birth

control? Is that some creatine? Yo, you can't hold some birth control? He's taking

BC powder. Are you a pitcher? What are you doing? For real, this nigga got powder on the

glove. Go ahead. Your girl giving you BF. She was asleep though? She was the glove. Go ahead. Oh, man. Yo, this nigga's so... All right, your girl giving you beef. She's trying to poison you. She was asleep, though? She was knocked out. Oh, wow. She had that out.

You think she's trying to kill you? No, she wants that ring, nigga. She had... Did she put life insurance on you? No, I have life insurance. She didn't put it. You're not answering. No, she did not put life insurance on me.

I'm trying to do an honest part. No, she did not put life insurance on me. I'm trying to do an honest part. No, she did not. Do you know if she called to add to the life insurance plan like Gone Girl did? She can't add to my plan. You mean to add her another plan? No, to you. Put a plan on me? Yeah.

I don't know. So you don't know. No, I don't know if she called and added a plan. Put life insurance on me. But how would you feel if she did? How would I know if she called And added a plan Put life in short But how would you feel If she did How would I know If she did Cause she told you

Yo you out here Living wild I'm not living wild But she might think Pardon is wild Yo you out here Pardon wild Talking about like

Niggas like I wanna make sure We protected We got a little girl Like I'm gonna put Some money on you So if something happens That we okay

No no no She knows already She knows I have three policies. But how would you feel if she added a fourth? Yo, I don't fucking know. Hey, yo, you sitting here entertaining this dumbass. I'm asking him a hypothetical. You know what hypothetical mean, right?

You smart. You went to one of them schools. Can you even add a policy to somebody without them knowing? Can you do that? You went to fucking Orange University. Oh, you could? See, I didn't even know you could. I don't know. So he won't even know you could. I don't know. So you... Fam, I don't... So he won't even allow his brain to figure out how he would feel if he found out his

wife or future wife put out, unbeknownst to him, an insurance policy. It's like putting a bet out on someone. You don't think... Yeah, that's like putting a headband on someone. You can't guess how you would feel, huh? You don't... No idea. No clue.

No clue. Wow. Wow. No, sorry. No clue. This is like a... He's strong as like a Zaria Banks killing a dead cat. Cooking the cat. So what else did she leave out for you?

Huh? Some food? Anger. Some food, some tea. Anger. Shock. Nice little note. Disappointing note.

Wait, hold on. He asked me a question. He asked me a question. I was answering Park's question. All right, well, we can't talk over each other. What'd you answer? I was wondering what else was on the spread. I said she left out some food.

She left out, she had my tea and everything. She's like, yo, the water, the kettle's warm. Just pour it. And she left me a nice little handwritten note. A queen. What, her birthday? Next month. A Libra.

Ding, ding, ding. Oh, my God. Ding, ding, ding. No, no, no, no, no. She's a Scorpio. I'm bringing out. I'm Libra. Worse. Worse. Oh, my God. Ding, ding, ding. No, no, no, no, no. She's a Scorpio. I'm bringing out. I'm leaving you. Worse.

That's a Libra times 10. It is. That's a Libra times 10. Let me ask you something. Did you find her secret diary and see what she said about you? I don't want to know what she said about me, Joe. Oh, my God, fam. Yo, he's done. He's finished.

No, she's leaving out that T and that B. He's done. He is bonito. Oh, no. Her birthday gift this year is nuts. Why do you think she leaving BC? I appreciate it. That's before Birkin. Birkin? No, no, Oh, no. Her birthday gift this year is nuts. Why do you think she leaving BC? I appreciate it. That's before Birkin.

Birkin? No, no, no. We're not fucking talking about that. No, no. You seen Fat? That's BB. I know. But anyway, it was a joke.

It's Orange University. Hey, hey. That's good old Orange High. They got 13 grades over there What was it? Bergen school I got it Fuck outta here

Nigga made up a school Didn't know Bishop Sycamore ass No y'all just couldn't get accepted In the Bergen school You either I got accepted That's the funny part

I don't know where it is Neither do you So I'm talking to my mom So I'm talking to my mom Right My dad wants to put my little brother, Anthony. Now, my dad is getting a suggestion from my friend Aaron, who works with kids and has kids,

that he should put my little brother, Anthony, in a boarding school in New Jersey that's two hours away. My brother, Anthony, is in all types of special classes. He's the head of the class. He's this. When I was telling whatever story I told about my grandma being mad at my report card, I said it wrong. In second grade, I was supposed to get skipped,

and my grandma was mad at me. Mad that I was supposed to get skipped, right? That was the story. So I'm talking to my mom about this. She said, yeah. Hold up. What was she mad at? She was mad that

they wanted to skip me cause it's the same thing that happened to all of her kids all of my uncles and my dad and to her that signified a sign

of trouble to come he's too he's smarter than wherever they put him he gonna use the smart for some other shit and she was probably right so now

here we are 2021 my little brother anthony didn't want to stand on the boarding school in new jersey he lives in new york i said ma hold up a second this just sounds expensive boarding school in new jersey when you live in New York for a special intelligent kid. I said, we're going to correct the generational problem that you made when you sent me to boarding school. She said, what you mean?

I said, when you sent me to boarding school, I never asked you this, but come on, let's get into it. How much was it? How much did it cost? Tell me. I dare you. I dare you tell me how much it cost. I said, I don't remember.

I bet you don't. I said, well, in one of the little folders files you gave me i saw a note where you were talking to the principal like yo please take my kid and i ain't got whatever the fuck y'all asking for but take my kid i need and he took me and she said i don't remember i said i bet you don't i said but the price of things lets you know things. And now that I'm older, I can tell you, whatever the price was at that school and them letting me in there told us all we needed to know about what was occurring when I got to that school.

Now, I have no idea what the price of this boarding school that y'all talking about for Anthony, but it's in New Jersey and he's bright and he's 14 and it's two hours from home and it's in New Jersey. Want me to guess how much it costs? My homegirl's son just graduated.

He went to a boarding school in Pennsylvania. That shit was $77,000 a year. So the school in Jersey has got to be about $40,000 or $50,000. Minimum. Depending on what part of Jersey. Might be more. Yeah, it might be more. It might be about 40 or 50. Minimum. Depending on what part of Jersey. Might be more.

Yeah, it might be more. No, different. It might be right there with that 77. It might be 72. Yeah, could be. What part of Jersey is in? Do you know? That's a lot.

No. That's a lot of some high school. No. I know it's a lot because they just called it Western New Jersey. I live in New Jersey and don't know where Western New Jersey is. What is that? That's Montclair. That's Woodbridge. No Jersey is. What is that? Is it Montclair? That's Woodbridge.

Where the fuck is Western? I'm 80. Listen, hey, I'm black. I do North Jersey, South Jersey. Once you talk about East and West, nigga, I need to come to this. You live in East Jersey. You live in East Jersey. Huh?

You live in East Jersey. I'm in the East. I'm in the East of Jersey, right? Yes. So West is the other. Nigga, the east of Jersey, right? Yes. So west is the other. Nigga, that shit is a lot. That shit is a lot. And then two hours away, that shit probably.

Nigga, if you don't go get this failed public school education. Out that way. You know, you stupid. Anyway, moving right along. Come on, we have to talk about Sweden. So you're not paying for it? We're going to let him get out of that one what's with your face dog i don't pay for things i don't know the price of oh they'll tell you the you the price. They have not yet. Yes, you do, though.

They haven't. You do, though. Carry on. I bet you're paying for them cabinets and you ain't know the price. I knew the price. I knew the price. When you cut the check,

you knew the price. No, I know the price. And what the fuck cabinets? Yo, you don't want to come in here and actually get into real estate house stuff, so you leave my ignorant ass to do it. And when I do it, it's, yo, why the fuck do cabinets cost so much? Do they cook?

Yo, they clean themselves. Do they fold up? Just spin around. Yo, buying a house is, listen, man, I'll save that for a different podcast. But, man, man, I see why these young niggas is renting. I see why they like, nah, I'm going to keep renting. I get it. I totally understand.

Got to knock ceilings down, walls, fucking electricity, floors. You get a nasty ass tenant in there. Nasty everything up. Now I got to kick you to the streets. Hope you burn. Hope you fucking freeze to death fucking my apartment up. That sounds horrible, right?

That sounds bad. You get you a nasty tenant. Ish don't ever want to get in our bag. What you do? That ain't art. Don't call hope y'all bag. What you do? That ain't art. I hope you freeze to death. My bag. What you do when a tenant is just a nasty fuck

ruining your whole shit? You got to put a whole nother tenant in there. Then they want their security bag. You ain't getting shit. Hey, nigga, get out. I'm blowing your security

on fucking Bernice since you want to play around. Nigga, I spent your security three. Yo, when you moved in, I spent your security. And now here you go at the end of the lease. Want that shit back. Yeah, hey, hold up, man. I'm blowing your security on Bernice.

Let me get a calculator out and see what you fucked up. This faucet wasn't so runny when you moved in. Yo. And then all these niggas that try to get you out there. They even spoke to 9,000 contractors. They all had a gun. Except for like three of them. Oh, boy. This guy is a fool.

Don't worry. We got our real estate podcast coming. Envy, tell your little homeboy. Podcasts coming. Envy tell you a little homeboy. He's bum ass letting Envy and his man get all the money, man. If you don't get out there and put some plywood up, do some shit, nigga.

Put a bush up or something. Let Envy and his big man. They had 5,000 niggas in there. You sit here with me. If you don't get your ass, sicker-ish. I am sicker-ish. If you do a real estate show, a car show,

this nigga do every show. A pot. Yeah, man. Fucking around. Go put some shit up. You ain't a good leader. All right. See?

That's what they be saying. That's what they be saying. Stop it. Stop it. That's what they be saying. Come on We gotta talk about Sweetie A podcast of four grown men We gotta talk about Sweetie

She's beautiful Cause the women won't do it Yo we be leaving it right there For y'all to discuss it We know when we minding business That's not ours This Sweetie shit ain't none of our business But guess what

It is That is funny my nigga sweetie not even sweetie ranch dip hidden valley ranch the creme de la creme well that's the ranch i use for my buffalo dick i ain't gonna shit on him too much heard. Why you're not sponsoring pods? They don't know you make buffalo dip with their shit. Get the fuck out of here. Come on now. Hidden Ranch Valley,

my preferred dip, has merged with Crocs. My preferred shoe. Which has merged with Sweetie to deliver a Hidden Valley Ranch crock. A Ranch Sweetie crock. That's what the world's been waiting for.

For the culture. For the culture. Round of applause. That's hip hop. I'm not going to lie. Sweetie can sell me anything. I was going to say, it's called pretty privilege. I'm not going to lie. Sweetie can sell me anything. I was going to say, it's called pretty privilege. I'm copping.

You're copping? I've never had a pair of fucking. If you were coming here with a pair of Crocs with a hamburger on them, I'm just owning you. Ready with my Sweetie meal. I'm so happy for her. Congratulations to Sweetie. She bodied this business ordeal. I'm so happy for her congratulations to Sweetie like she bodied

this business ordeal nah that's dope however is a however to it she gotta sit down it's not my place to say that she gonna get the ramen deal next

Sweetie has to sit down for a second just a second musical cheer a second you can get back down for a second. Just a second. Musical cheer a second. You can get back up in a second. But, oh, if y'all gonna leave. Oh, I see what y'all doing. No, no, no, come on.

I love it too. Yeah, I can't help it. I love it too. No, no, no. No, no, no, no. I love it. I want a Crocs. I don't love the Crocs.

I want a Hidden Valley Sweetie Croc. I don't love this shit at all. She's great, and I support everything that she does. I see what's going on. I said it's puff fuck. I didn't say it's puff fuck. What are you talking about? I said puff fuck don't be a pop.

Damn, I never said that, though. Let me tell you what this reminds me of, and it's going to get me in trouble, but I'm going to say it anyway. Oh, Ice did say hove. But go ahead. This is the result of Hov. What would Hov have said?

Blue cheese? No. Hov, per Ice's point, Hov transcended hip-hop and put way more money in the game. And now you have Hidden Valley Ranch doing an endorsement deal with Saweetie. That's a stupid take. No, that wasn't my point. That wasn't my point, though. Go ahead, Joe.

Let me hear what you were saying. Come on, come on. I'll go to my point. Go ahead. Enough's enough. Women, I know y'all hate me publicly. They be on me privately. Why do they do that why did they i would have such a better reputation if they just did that publicly why the fuck but okay i know i'm just triggered by that shit

women this is none of my business i know but let me tell you what this reminds none of my business. I know. But let me tell you what this reminds me of. You know when the girl leaves the relationship and all y'all lie and say, oh great, this is what you should have did. Now you focusing on you. It's awesome. Fuck that nigga. He was holding you back.

I been could tell he was holding you back. And then all the niggas go we watch what she do the next few months and then she do shit like this and then the niggas be like he should have held her back from that he should have stopped that

there is no way I want to see the sweetie hidden rally ranch croc collab if Quavo is still in the picture. Hey, for clarity, because y'all think I'm crazy. Quavo, not knowing anything about this croc, put out a tweet yesterday that said, Y'all gonna be the first billionaire of this generation, of this class of MCs. Do you know what that means when somebody says that, you guys? It means they're projecting. of MCs. Do you know what that means when somebody says that to you guys?

It means they're projecting. It means they kind of know the things they need to do to get into that billionaire class. They might not get there, but they know what need to get done and what don't need to get done. And when you got a girl as beautiful as this and y'all a power couple and you getting money and you negotiating

deals and it's your team and it's your everything, you keep her away from hidden rally, valley, ranch, crock mergers off of your Happy Meal merger. Those two go hand in hand. No, but I was about to ask you, do you really?

Like you... I'm telling you, the ramen deal is next. I'm telling you, Quavo would have paid her to not do this if they was together. I'm telling you that as a man. next. I'm telling you, Quavo would have paid her to not do this if they was together. I'm telling you that as a man. I know that people don't care about what black straight men have to say. Yo, dog, that McDonald bag might have been a nice bag. He would have let that bag rock.

I'm talking about this bag. It might have been joint. It got a burgle on there, so I'm not trying to be funny. I don't know. It's not a joint. You don't think so? No. It's not a joint. McDonald's my own Hidden Valley Ranch. It could be a parent company, and that's what I'm saying. It be funny. I don't know. Just not a joint. You don't think so? No. It's not a joint.

McDonald's my own Hidden Valley Ranch. It could be a parent company. That's what I'm saying. It's nasty. Stop. Stop. Just stop. This is a pretty face.

Just stop. This is a pretty face. She's beautiful, but stop. Stop. Look at the crock. We can put her on. Oh, my God. Sweetie, sit down.

She could sell better shoes. And then it's a play on. She could sit down better than this. You're a shoe guy. What do you think about this? She don't have a song out, a single out, an EP out, an album out. You're not going to get one. In my real opinion, you're not going to get one.

And we for Play Play that I can rock with the Play Play. You never know what this endorsement deal was. Never know. So I'm not. I know what a chair is. For her to sit her ass in it. Again. Now look on the flip side though.

Hold on. Wait, then they put a warning at the bottom to say that Crocs can't be made in the microwave. They got to do that. Sweetie. That's because of ice. Can you please have a seat? Please, sweetie. we love you here friend of the show

please you don't have to live this way best rapper we've ever seen yes you got your mom a segway from either of you three gentlemen get that bag mama

yes mama yes mama I'm serious do you have a segue? Oh, speaking of bags. This is Zen Joe. You ain't going to get the bag. Here we go.

Did y'all hear about a man that went into the bank and robbed the bank for $100? Huh? So, because he wanted to go to jail? No. No. Yeah. Arizona man. Arizona man robbed his bank, for single $100 bill

wanted to be arrested. Oh, that's nice. Why did he want to be arrested? Why did he want to be arrested? Why did you want to get arrested? Oh, because niggas was on him. Duh. All right.

I get it. Well, just last week on the way to the pod, I told that lady cop outside to arrest me. Huh? Wait. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. She wouldn't do it. No, no, no. I tried to get arrested. For what? It didn't matter. So she could arrest him. She wouldn't do it. No, no, no. I tried to get arrested. For what? It didn't matter. So she could arrest me. It didn't matter.

Jay walking. She was fine. Anything. Anything. Arrest me for anything. I'm breaking. I told her. I have things on my person.

You should check. I told her that. I said, yo, I'm actively breaking the law right now. Honestly. For real. It's nuts in here. Like, I should be off the streets. She just kept walking.

Damn. Never get arrested when you want to. This is nuts. Who, Homeboy? Homeboy, you purposely rob a bank for $100 to go to jail because he said he feared for his life. You want to go to jail if you fear for your life, though. No, because jail ain't the place.

That ain't the place to be. That's true. You fear for your life, not jail. The person I'm afraid of is outside. But if it's gang related, it's boys is inside. Oh, please. I got to weigh inside.

I got to weigh inside. All right. Shit is rough. A nigga want to go to the feds to dump niggas on the street. Yo, just obey most of the laws. Not all. Speed limit.

Seatbelt law Seatbelt Man I wear a seatbelt Obey most of the laws man And that'll be that And don't rob banks for A hundred dollars Yeah

Don't do that Don't go to Philips What happened at Philips? This week Couple days ago Dude on the first date Young kid on the first date Eating outside at Philips Shorty taking Shorty taking a picture Of the plates for the gram A couple days ago. Dude on the first date. Young kid on the first date.

Eating outside at Philippe's. Shorty taking a picture of the plates for the gram. You know what I'm saying? Niggas jumped out of a truck and started robbing all the tables outside. And my man stopped. Wait, all the tables that were dining outside? Not just this guy. Not just this guy. It was more.

Yeah, they robbed a couple tables outside. They took somebody's rollie. You know, all you bald niggas want to go to Philips and eat with Shorty. I ain't been to Philips in 17 years. Robert said, hey, it's a stick-up. Philips. What's the other one? All them shits that used to be the move back in 05, 06, I stopped hitting.

Yeah, it's catch steak now. Is there no one for you? All right, let me just read a little bit of this here. Shut the fuck up. I want to fire this nigga, man. I'm telling my fucking business. You put it on the gram

every 20 minutes. Wagoo. Look how nigga flip it with the wooden thing. You know what I'm saying? You don't be wagoon. I started this pod with how do we get him to stop, segue someone,

Friendsgiving. Who's going to Friendsgiving this year? Go ahead. Go ahead. The nigga said it's a stick up. He said it's a stick up. They wanted our jewelry. The victim's terrified date told the Daily News.

She didn't give her name. My date started to fight him for the gun. He shot him. It was in the left leg. It was our first date. I'm still in shock. Every night I gotta prove my love. This girl is fine. I wonder if she gets a second date.

She better. If he gets a second date, rather. She can get a second date with me. What are you talking about? First date blew it, man. Nigga tried to be Captain America. Hey, man. Hey, lose the chain and go enjoy your night.

You buy another chain? Yeah, I'm... Niggas never want to live to fight another day. I'm glad that he's all right. Yeah. I'm glad that he is all right. He only got shot in the leg. It's horrible that she had to experience this, but...

Pam, stop fighting niggas with guns please Just give it up You never know how she look Nigga might have been trying to show off She must have been nice I'm not agreeing with it I'm just saying she might have been Hot sauce

I would have called her later With my earlier thinking I would have told her why I my earlier thinking I would have told her Why I let it happen Nah we went back And found them niggas though What you understand Yeah yeah yeah

Nah nah I got two calls We got them Nah yeah yeah He ain't even breathing no more He ain't getting nowhere with that Trust We ain't gotta worry about that

Ever again When I ran down on him He ain't had a chain No he sold it Nah yeah yeah yeah Nah we got them niggas Don't even worry about it It's dangerous out here.

Crime is up, man. You can't even eat in peace. Word. Because it's hungry out here. That's crazy, man. The wolves are out. It's true. All your little crip niggas.

Hulu, what are you talking about? A lot of people listen to this. You don't know. That's the Rico Lord. If that's true. You're going up for like 32. You're going to be in there with the $100 man. Okay, y'all.

You my man. You work in sneakers. I don't know what issue you're talking about. I don't know what issue you're talking about. What else do we need to unpack? Anything? Congratulations to Scarface. He got a kidney from his son.

From his son. If you stop joking around, Ish. It appears that he's recovering. They're both recovering well. Very good, very good. That's incredible. Another congratulations.

Big fans of the show. And I'm a WeJ on the birth of their son. Okay. They were telling me 29 hours. It just blew my mind. 29 hours of labor.

That's a lot. I'm glad I'm a dude. I'm glad. I ain't had to. Just a magic witness. Yeah, I'd have went home. Be back? Text me.

Hit me with your clothes? You're giving birth from your vagina, not your hands. You can send a little text. Or you're not. That's a joke. hands you can send a little text or you're not that's a joke they don't know it's a joke it's been seven years

of this with me I'm kidding y'all don't know my heart that's just wild to say I'm going home you better recline his dad chair

and go to sleep I looked over at the nurse like yeah yo you got the little side bed you gonna bring it out she was like yeah I was like fuck

you wanted to say no you ran out 10 minutes from the crib but you can't do that you can't do that you can't do that that's hilarious yo and let me and shout out this thing because that happened fast like it wasn't long wasn't even long enough for me to get the good sleep and i had to wake up and like have a baby and you did all that wow no I didn't do shit you didn't do nothing I tried to give we didn't have to

I tried to give instructions when he got stuck in there he got stuck hard hit a little button he's stuck like what do I do you're not gonna try to push anymore

don't push nigga what do you mean what do you do he's stuck come on I'm trying not to even acknowledge you. Alright, if I get in there.

All my kids, it was trade today. Umbilical cord was around his neck. I was like, oh, if you're in there causing mischief. Man, that shit happens. These are real thoughts. I know, but you said, yo, if I get in there. Yo, that's not a real thought. She yelled at me.

She yelled at me. She got me away from the work area. I can imagine her doing that. You're probably really annoying. Yeah, I can imagine you being extra annoying. I was just trying to be of service, and I guess I wasn't of as much service as I tried to be. Did you trip and knock anything over or anything?

No. That's good of you. There's a hole in her leg. The hell else am I supposed to be doing in there? Yeah, I did the same. Like, pop up with her leg here, lift it up and help her.

Look down there, fucking breathe words of encouragement. Hey, it's going to be all right, baby. We're going to get back together after this. It's going to be our school. Whatever you're saying.

Hey, baby, all the times times i cheated i don't even remember them just i'm kidding it's a comedy pod yo right now no but that's a beautiful moment beautiful moment yeah yeah i can't wait to experience that's gonna be awesome yeah yeah say barn we're gonna cut out the stuff that need to get cut out out of that little you know i mean you hurt you hurt my man it's my man right there that was just keisha my man look they don't accept jokes from Cut out the stuff that need to get cut out of that little, you know what I mean? You heard? You heard? My man. That was just Keyshia. My man. They don't accept jokes from me.

Only from Dave. Dave. Chappelle. Oh. Cat. Cat. Kevin Hart said he got some serious shit coming with Wesley Snipes. Movie.

I don't know. Cat Williams said he wants to do a versus with Kevin Hart. I don't know how that works, but... I'll watch it. Comedy versus would be fucking amazing. He's been saying he wants to do a comedy versus with Kevin Hart. I love it. Sleepers would be amazing too right now.

I don't know how that works. We came in with a song that the public has been sleeping on. Oh my God. See, and I have to do that because, yes, Cat Williams wants to do that. Yes, we've read that. That's not happening. I mean, why are we even wasting our time here?

And the way that Cat Williams presented it, we know it's not happening. Yo, I'll do it with Cat, but that's really cheating. Well, that's not making him want to do it. Cat, Cat's not doing that. That's baiting him, but yeah, Cat is a... You can't bait a nigga that's close to a billion dollars. Billion dollars. Comedy versus sounds like a great idea to me, though. I want You can't bait a nigga that's close to a billion dollars. Billion dollars. Comedy versus sounds

like a great idea to me, though. I want to see that. How would that work? Jokes. Like what? Like one-liner? Like... Whatever. I don't care how they do it. Jokes from your stand-up versus. Yeah, I don't care how they do it. I'ma watch. So what, you get a time limit? You get what I'm saying? I just don't get how two comedians on stage would do that. It would probably have to be

a time limit, same way they theoretically do a time limit with the music. But they do songs. Right. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you do a two minute bit, then I do one,

then you do one, then I do one. Okay. I mean. I would love that shit. Nah, it would be dope. Someone hit me. I want to just put

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which is an overdose prevention supply. Mailed to you in Jersey. I don't know if that's nationwide or just in Jersey, but 877-4-NARCAN N-A-R-C-A-N That's awesome. Yeah, good information to put out there. Again, people please be careful out there. Or Narcan. N-A-R-C-A-N. That's awesome. Yeah. Good information to put out there.

Again, people, please be careful out there. Yeah. We can't say it enough. You're going to hear us say this a lot. Just be careful. Just be careful. We losing a lot of people. Way more than they're reporting on. So just be careful.

Seven's album is in your phone right now In case you have not heard it Some shit on there I'll get to that on Wednesday For now We're gonna try it this way Brand new yeah but this is called Stand This album's great

This album is phenomenal. Oh. Uh-oh. And it go. I need this in a sound cab in the night on the way to the strip club to throw some money in the air. I mean, invest money into my life insurance. But I don't want your reasons why. You can't even look me in my eye. I told you. So don't you make me say it one more time.

When you went away Moonlight took the day Stars and darkness all collided In the loneliest of space Will you stand, stand, stand, stand, stand Oh, will you stand, stand, stand, stand Can you stand the rain When summer's gone and there's no use in weighing it up all the time

Oh, and then, seeping deeper into blame When you went away, moonlight took the day Stars and darkness, oh, collided in the loneliest of space When you went away, my universe divided All that's left is the matter of asking myself Will you stand, stand, stand? Or will you falter? Will you lean into the time you're spending?

Never ending, strengthening your heart Or will you prosper? Will you recover after all the love? Or will you stand lost again? Will you stand, stand, stand, stand? Will you stand, stand, stand Stand, stand, stand The universe divided both for all of me, yeah And I've been looking deep into my soul

And it go I've been spending my reflection in the mercury And turning my transgressions into gold Gold Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah Can you stand the pain, baby? Can you stand? Can you stand?

Can you stand? Can you stay? Can you stay? Can you stay? Can you stay? Can you stay? Can you stay? Can you stay? Can you stay?

Can you stay? Can you stay? Can you stay? Can you stay? And let the bass go This shit is incredible I can't wait to get this in the sound cabinet I can't Oh I know you've been gone Baby Stay away baby

I know that you're Always just To the music Yeah Yeah Yeah Brand new music from Yeba. This one is called Stand.

This is off her album Dawn. In your phone right now. Great, great project. If you haven't heard it, check it out. And we gone, man. This is getting burned on Friday night. Oh, no. out and we going man this is getting burned on Friday night oh no finish out strong and finish out strong there it go

oh yes beautiful Beautiful. I had to let the whole thing rock. I can't cut that off. You did that right. All right. I was browsing around that off. Nope, you did that right. All right. I was browsing around in my I'm Never Gonna Listen email account. Uh-huh. Yes, that's the name of it.

You need to be arrested. Well, I listened. And I came across something by a gentleman from South Carolina. His name is Infinite. And it's called Let Em Know. It's just hard. Know we up next right? Hey, yeah Thomas these we get the fucking cheese It was the fuck you need me my weed to come without disease niggas tax it for the packs I gotta hit you back. Oh run the game. I run it laughs. Yeah trying to make it with the wraps Oh, all I know is they don't give a nigga what he want. I'm picking up strap. I don't really want to do it Fuck it though. I gotta get next to the bread all of my niggas. They hungry. They starving you lucky

I told him don't come at your head just yet What was the killers and what was the nerves the best of both worlds but fighting the they hungry, they starving, you lucky I told them, don't come at your head just yet Roll with the killers and roll with the nerds The best of both worlds, been fighting the urge The bite and the apple, you heard about the curse At the main ease, count all my fees Counted me out and I counted on it Formulated up the new plan Fuck the waiting, I need money, trees

Good kid in a mad city, uh, creep, creep With a black hoodie, only one of me, a lot of real Yeah, I hear you, but you talking slow If it's about the dough, then let me know And if it's nothing, get up off the spot Play the bench, I had to sit back and watch Play the fence and they can pick you aside Damn, cryin' until I can't no more Headed to the bank, old load Never would I think in a million years I would be on this track

Talkin' shit so back off my dick, uh Back on my shit, back in a cut yak In a cup, sure been a Dutch pin caught Fire had to get inspired, see my situation, it was taking turns for the worst Only thing I'm gettin' headed down this path is just the early hearse Take control, they had me in the trunk and I'm drivin' and I'm in the front I don't do reverse, tryna beat you first, son Build steady, comin' in, either move to work or get your ass to work, damn We just really wanna win, put my mama in the bench All my friends gettin' lit, bust downs for my bitch

I don't really wanna talk Only action from the boy Tell me really what you want Can he do it on his own? They ain't really makin' noise Shouldn't let me hear my song Now the fire burn strong Kill them niggas with the kindness Add it up, we never mind this Carolina, where you find us? I'm a king, I wear my throne Diggin' deep into my mind Diamonds every single line Just lettin' niggas know, ayy, yeah

Diamonds every single line Just lettin' niggas know, ayy, yeah Diamonds every single line Just lettin' niggas know Diamonds every single line just lettin' niggas know Diamonds every single line just lettin' niggas know Diamonds every single line just lettin' niggas know Diamonds every single line just lettin' niggas know You know how we do, Henny That's nice. Yeah, that was infamous. Let them know. All right, cool.

I'm going to play something off this Flea Lord and Rock Marciano album. This is Trim the Fat. It's dope. Okay. Okay. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.

Lord, Lord. My mic on ten, the ice on swim Start up when I pull up, your life gon' end Rollin' up the pinga, controllin' all my anger Show love in the club, to some total fuckin' strings Focus on the paper, was broke but now I kick up Third eye shinin' I was woke before the wake up The fame was right there From slinging white years

It's the y'all or my lords No more changing night ears The oxtail is broke, the cocktail is potent Grew up in the slums block near the ocean Hardest in the street, charges getting beat Mack and engine, new Drago on the seat Get it how you live, get it how you live, pain or the power Yeah we bang over hours, ain't no lane for a caliber

Bentley looking sweet, Bentley looking sweet, the range for over sour Seen a hundred plus relationships that changed over dollars I don't think I fucking just heard what I said man, shit Seen a hundred plus relationships Changed over dollars I've lost some motherfuckin' business and mad friends But guess what? All the real rights are still here with me See, you gotta trim the fat

That's what the fuck I just did I trimmed the fat And that's why we winnin' Money from the block, block to the pot Now we goin' cash the checks First you get the money, then the power, then you earn respect Don't get stressed, don't get stressed First you get the money, then the power, then you earn respect

Money from the block, block to the pot, now we goin' cash the checks First you get the money, then the power, then you earn respect Don't get stressed, don't get stressed First you get the money, then the power, then you earn respect Got the work synchronized, swimming in the pot Alexander footprint on the block Put it on the flame, melt it down, drop the ice in Watch it float up to the top

I ain't talking on the phone, you niggas hot I ain't talking, fuck it You ain't bout to shit that I ain't on You ain't bout to shit my guys on All smoke, all electric cars You ain't hanging out the Porsche Taycan Lead slow, then you die long Show my nigga hot, it's just a pylon

Told him, gotta keep your eye on it Or you'll fuck the bands up, now you die long Tell them, hey, niggas, pipe down I'm the one that oughta hype round Rich nigga, iced out They had the power power now they lights out That's Trim the Fat Flea Lord, Rock Marciano featuring Stone God Cooks

Shout out to the guys What you got for us Ish? Song is The Big Sleep Is Over It's Big Boy from Out outcast and sleepy brown big sleep over this one special from way back Anyway me dey dem I go run fi dem over Little bit a juicy na mi system a over Mac dey for me size so me no care what dem under Triptin na me do so this is what dem I go come for Big sleepover everybody call slumber

One two shot no really care bout the number Tell me bout your nikle move this a what me wonder It's a big sleepover you see me darken Nigga sleeping but I'm out of Just time to make the donuts by my lonely We can't have a date without a cake I cut a piece and put it up, my nigga high to play My status growin' at a rate, so when it's time to play I make fantasy realities, so bitch, get out the way

Unperfection, persona, fight on the first take Jedi rap shit I was blessed with on my birthday Check my track record, I sit back and attack shit in the birth way Never been washed, stayed heavily starved I'm Dicky down to the ground ready to march Bitch I'm a soldier, General Patton yeah he's a god I'm tryna torture, honest in a game full of frauds Bitch I'll expose ya, the camera lenses pointed at twans

Kept my composure, the big sleep is over wake up nobody cold Anywhere me dead dem I go run fi dem over Pick a bit of juice inna mi system I over Mac dem pa mi side so mi no care what dem under Drinks inna mi juice so this is what dem I go come for Big sleepover, everybody call slumber One, two shots, no really care bout the number Tell me bout your nikle mo, this a what me wonder

It's a big sleepover, you see me, dawg The Dandada, generational godfather The situation I'm faced with just make you go harder It's been a journey but instead of lagging on the gurney I chose to pick up the pad and pen and let these niggas learn me The combination to the bag route, I crack that Mission impossible to a nigga who can't rap rap Take any obstacle and I'm surely gon' get past that

Police killing niggas, the only option seems to blast back Scratch that for jumbo bucks and lottery quick picks More hope in lottery tickets than in black business, it's risky So miss me with that woke shit, go back to bed Hit the snooze button, cause ain't nothin' like Simone in here The definition of up and comin', I'm hittin' the ground runnin' Like a nigga that ain't never had nothin' They microwavin' and I'm out the damn oven

So food, it's quality over quantity still And we'll kill any nigga on the field, player We have nothing else to prove We stay on point whatever we do Run your town, we'll do that too Run your town, we'll do that too Run your town, we'll do that too Let me introduce to you Them big sleepover Anywhere me dead, them I gon' run fi' them over

Little bit of juice inna mi system, I over Make them promise I, so me no care what them under Drifting na mi juice, so this is what them I gon' come for Big sleepover, everybody call slumber I wish they put more respect on his name. Nice work I like that I like that too Big Boy makes good music man All his solo shit is dope To me I wish they put more respect On his name Me too

Been saying it for the longest Me too Legend Shout out to the legend And Sleepy Brown Yes sir Shout out to Big Boy Sleepy Brown

Shout out to you gentlemen For joining us On this rainy Saturday I think it's raining It's not Saturday yet But I think it is It's supposed to not Saturday yet, but I think it is. Shout out to y'all for taking the time out of a busy, beautiful Friday to come

sit here and dissect culture. I appreciate y'all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Taking time away from your busy lives, your homes, your wives, your works, your other works

this is. I really I really really really appreciate you guys man you guys are awesome did I tell you that I appreciate you I tell you again tell you again tell you again honestly honestly all right we headed out of here man we gonna get out of here we opened up with Stevie superwoman we on gonna close with little Donny Superwoman. Somebody texting me? They ready for the night? From the black pool of genius. Oh, she ready? She ready for the night? We'd like to give you our rendition of Stevie Wonder's... Superwoman.

What's up? We out tonight? We out tonight? What's up? Huh? Ice going to bed, that's fine, but I'm talking to my old road dog. I can go out. My old road dog. I was just saying I didn't think he was doing nothing.

Ice, we want your girl. We don't even want you to go out. Then fine, I don't go out. Y'all got to come out as a couple. First off,

I know we don't and I don't even have to come out with y'all niggas. See, wow. I can go get with the real niggas and turn it up.

See, that's hurtful. That's hurtful. That's hurtful. Damn sorry-ish only. You shooting, niggas? Yeah, I'm not shooting. You always shooting. Yo, y You shooting niggas? Yeah I'm not shooting You always shooting Yo y'all niggas

Spent y'all whole lives Meeting partners That y'all love And then when your partners Love the partner That you love You don't love that I love

What are you talking about I love that shit That is the best You can come out tonight You and your partner Ish you and your partner Can come out tonight Parks you and your partner

Can come out tonight Word My partners can come out tonight You got, you and your partner can come out tonight. My partners can come out tonight. You got partners? Yeah, nigga, I'm real. I'm rich, nigga. Double off. So wait, we can't call you rich, though.

I joked with Ish. I joked with Ish. You see that, right, Ish? I joke with Ish. Because when I make them jokes, niggas be like, nah, he right. Where it come from? Nah, he robbing us. Somebody always feel like I'm robbing them.

They never feel like I work really hard. They never feel like I just bust my ass. School, we heading out of here, man. I hope everybody has a really good weekend. Thank y'all. Thank you to fans, the listeners, first and last time listeners for joining us. Keeping us some company on this really beautiful Saturday, this really fine weekend. Thank y'all. Thank you to fans, the listeners, first and last time listeners for joining us, keeping us some company on this really beautiful Saturday,

this really fine weekend. Thank God for waking all of us up this morning. We appreciate that. Rest in peace to all the people that we love and lost. COVID is a real thing.

Please be careful out there. Head on a swivel. What's going on? It's real shit going on out there. Hold on. Talk to him. Hey. What is happening right now?

Playing the instrumental. I didn't know I had the instrumental. Oh, wait. What the fuck are they doing here? I didn't know I had the instrumental. It's a job. Yeah, I ain't so mad at it instrumental whoop this. It's a dog! Yeah, I ain't so mad at it, but...

That's not where I was going, you know what I mean? Let's see what's happening. You can just sing the parts. Nah, he killing right now. Oh, this is like a... homemade instrumental or something. I don't know what this is. Hold up, this ain't How I'm Endin' man. Give me my real version. I just EQ'd off or something.

Yeah, yeah. Let's try this again. I'm looking for the words. I mean, we gotta end this on the right vibe music should have came on a little bit hold up man all these instrumental version All right, here we go, here we go. A little better, a little better, a little better. Give me the round of applause. Let's end this thing the right way. Hi.

Lil Donny Hathaway, rest in peace. May you rest in peace. Shout out to everybody out there having a good weekend. Come on, vibe with me on the end of this real quick. Lil Donny. I'm not a daddy. When the summer came You were not alone Now the summer's gone

And love cannot be found do what we supposed to do at the end of this year where were you when I needed you oh no last winter alright listen keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there until the next time I bid you adieu

Farewell, hasta la vista, adios Arrivederci, so long, goodbye Life is a series of moments Oh my God, you wasn't around when winter came It was snowing You was on your way out the door I seened at you I put your clothes in the storage for you

You ain't give a fuck about me Only them bags and purses and shoes It hurt It hurt to watch you leave you ain't give a fuck about me only them bags and purses and shoes it hurt it hurt to watch you leave do remember the baddies are insecure they're stagnant women want to travel with you in a closed mind and women want you to teach them some things her ass is not fat she's sitting on a sink or a counter or pressed against a hard surface making her thighs poke out

she's not private she's ashamed shamed out she's living out there she hates it really oh baby has a real good weekend. We celebrating birthdays. It's my mom's birthday this weekend. Shout out to her. Mine too. Happy birthday, mom.

It's Ice's mom's birthday this weekend. Shout out to her. Round of applause. It's Imani's birthday this weekend. Shout out to him. If you celebrating a birthday, do it big this weekend. We out of here. See you same time, same place.

Next week, we gone. Hey. You wasn't around when the winter came. Talk to him, Donnie. Here we go Girl, were you what I needed you to be It's the live version of Superwoman, let's go Donny Last Wednesday

I can't cut it off, y'all, sorry My dear, my dear, my baby, my love. Yeah. Let's get some live instrumentation going while we end this thing, man. Y'all enjoy your weekend. We'll talk to y'all next week. Again, shout out to Donnie. Shout out to everybody.

Oh, man. Two more minutes of music. I'm out of here. out to everybody. Oh, man. Two more minutes of music. I'm out of here. I'm out of here, man. We're going to play this in the sound cab, and we're going to go head on. Love and light. Let me cut this off. Oh, shit.

I can't cut it off. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, though. Oh, my God. Oh my god though Some of the young people listening never heard this, if you ride, just ride Say Bob will you add a part a little bit? Come out here a little bit, you little bit is it still here oh my god If you feel I meet, you last winter

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