The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 473 | "Raised In The 90's"

Episode Date: September 22, 2021

Joe calls the guys out for not being willing to attend a 'guys trip' without the permission of their significant other and explains the double standard between the dynamic (16:40). The crew then discu...ss Karen Civil vs the industry and Joe shares his stance (34:40), they compare Diddy and Jermaine Dupri's music catalogue, speculate Jodeci's hesitancy to face Dru Hill in a Verzuz (1:23:45) and revisits the conversation of southern Hip Hop acts being brought to mainstream notoriety due to New York influence (1:33:00). Also, Rolling Stone creates a list of their top 500 songs of all time (1:52:50), the Fugees reunion tour (2:06:50) and MORE!   Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Vedo - “Juicy” (Ft. Ari Lennox)   Ice | Suga J - “RESPECKFULLY”    Parks | Tha God Fahim & Your Old Droog - “Lost His away”    Ish | Kevin AntoniYo - “FMX” (Ft. Devvon Terrell & Mike Classic)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Go back up. Right there. Who can help me build my own? Scroll up on the Android. How you do? How you scroll? Wait, wait. Yeah, you so stupid, my nigga.
Starting point is 00:00:11 Something wrong. You did it? You can see it? You went up? He did say that. Meet me at the house build. I know. Dream house.
Starting point is 00:00:19 In Jersey. In Jersey. He said it's never been done before. I know. Soldier Boy might have did it. Well, that's why now I believe all the Meek Hood stories. Because he was that close to Jersey and right there in Philly. And he ain't seen none of the Jersey dream houses that everyone's built out here.
Starting point is 00:00:36 There's some shit out there, too. Boy, they built some things. There's some shit out there. All you got to do when you're bored is go to Zillow and just start searching shit. Go ahead to Zillow and play. Get sick. I was about to say, fuck around and click the wrong area. Y'all think Casamigos do the trick.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Zillow ain't throwing up. Zillow will do it. Hey, Zillow will get y'all right throwing up. Go ahead and get to exploring around. Hey, what's this town? Oh. Whoa. Colt's Neck.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Oh. What the Colt Neck? Shea built a cul-de-sac in the river. Rumson? Rumson? Oh, no, no, no. Don't fuck-sac in the river. Rumson? Rumson? Oh, no, no, no. Don't fuck around. That's the one, Rumson?
Starting point is 00:01:08 It's a lot of ones. Ice Call me told me about Rumson one day. It's a lot of ones. I went right on Zillow and went right off of Zillow. All right, Nick. Felt like a PR. I never left Zillow so fast. My bum ass be thinking I'm in the like, I be trying to get classy.
Starting point is 00:01:24 I be trying to mix class into my Instagram timeline so when I'm looking at naked, gorgeous, beautiful women, I see like, who built this stone brick? This stone
Starting point is 00:01:33 mason mansion house over here. When they start naming an architect that's from France. Hey Kanye, Kanye just did it. 55 million or something?
Starting point is 00:01:41 56 million dollars. Half art, half house. I had to read the headline a few more times. Oh, he bought a sculpture. A sculpture house. Shit ain't say a home. Oh, art.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Then they pull it up. It just look like a fucking Lego, big ass Lego piece. And then you feel uncultured. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I don't know. I felt like I was wrong. That's when they minimalist us, minimalisted us
Starting point is 00:02:06 with the furniture. They start showing us all these empty hallways and living rooms. Empty rooms, big old rooms. I'm in fucking restoration hardware
Starting point is 00:02:13 like, wait a second, buddy. You're scaring me. Maybe I don't need furniture. What's that shit Kim Kardashian showed us when she went in the bathroom and the sink
Starting point is 00:02:23 looked flat as some shit and the ghetto people, or some shit and the ghetto people, the brokies start trying to talk to her. Hey, dog, your sink broke. Water's gonna get everywhere, Kim. Yo, how water ain't even splashing? Kim had to come and
Starting point is 00:02:37 school us. No, you fucking broke peasants. The water goes up here. This is what happens. Gravity don't exist in this house. I'm telling you, these dudes, they're telling you. They're telling me that fucking Bruce Willis or one of these dudes, Matthew McConaughey, somebody, they got the kitchen that is in the floor. The whole kitchen is in the floor.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Dog, how your kitchen empty? Yo. You're going to get roaches. See, I'm following them. Nigga be like this like this yo that's crazy I'm trying to see can Parks make a roaches joke I can
Starting point is 00:03:11 yes white people get roaches hold up man hell yeah they can do that wait they get roaches they get something else man when you see the white person
Starting point is 00:03:19 kill a roach I call a bluff what's wrong that is cap I have never seen a white person kill a roach I kill mad a bluff. What's wrong? That is cap. I have never seen a white person kill a roach. I kill mad roaches,
Starting point is 00:03:28 bro. For real? Hell yeah. You've been in white people's houses. Nah, they get water bugs and shit. That's just a roach.
Starting point is 00:03:33 They get something out of it. You get fancy roaches. What's wrong with you? You get fancy roaches. Your roaches fly around and shit. Our roaches don't fly.
Starting point is 00:03:41 My shit now is grubs, though. That's a white people roach. What the fuck is a grub? Grub. They're like a worm, caterpillar kind of looking thing. Ever since the flood, them shit's everywhere in the backyard. Parks is exotic.
Starting point is 00:03:53 You got the silo. Grubs. They're like two inches long. They're like caterpillars. GRUB. I got Google Grubs. Grub. I know it's Grubhub.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Grubs is fucking me up right now. That's white roaches? Yeah, it's white people roaches. Yeah,hub's just fucking me up right now. That's White Roaches? Yeah, it's Whitey Roaches. Yeah, Grubhub's, man. Grubhub's is White Roaches. Who don't even know what this shit is? This shit is nasty. A grub.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Click on it. That shit's disgusting. Oh, that looks disgusting right there. They be in the house too? Dad comes in somebody's house? I had a couple come in through my basement door from the backyard. Oh, no, I'm good. I'm all the way out. I'm pussy when my basement door from the backyard. Oh, no. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:04:25 I'm all the way out. I'm pussy when it comes to all of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You scared of bugs, yo? The ones that you don't find in the hood? Yeah. So what happens when a bug in your house and your girl call you? If it's the ones we find in the hood, I'm cool with those.
Starting point is 00:04:38 If it's one of these, we moving. Yo, pack this shit up. So when your girl screams You scream too It's a shrimp Yo we move This nigga yo That's funny I'm not dealing with this shit
Starting point is 00:04:51 Fucking bug coming to house That shit got a face on it Yeah that shit do look like TV Yeah that shit is disgusting What A little butter That's shrimp Oh if it's shrimp
Starting point is 00:04:59 That's different That's one right there It just crawl It don't swim Oh okay I take it back. She looks disgusting. Listen, I don't care what you tell me about a shrimp.
Starting point is 00:05:08 It's getting ate. That shit is a bug. Okay. That shit is a roach. That's mine too. I like him though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Literally, nothing you can tell me about a shrimp.
Starting point is 00:05:19 You don't eat shrimp? No, nigga. Lobster? You don't eat pork? None of that? You eat scallops? Nope. Clams? What the fuck do you eat? Chicken? No, nigga. You don't eat crab? None of that? You eat scallops? Nope. Clams?
Starting point is 00:05:26 What the fuck do you eat? Chicken? You got it. Dirty-ass chicken. You got that stupid-ass tongue for nothing. Why is you looking at another man's tongue? Stupid-ass tongue. What the fuck is wrong with this guy's stupid mouth? Somebody did say you had a hammer tongue. Yo, why is you commenting
Starting point is 00:05:44 on another nigga's tongue? Why is it commenting? Weird tongue having. Ignoring. In the house, just fucking tonguing around. Tonguing around. He's trying to take a picture of the old tongue from her. He should never French kiss you again.
Starting point is 00:06:00 This nigga's so stupid. All right, man. All right, what's happening here, man? What do we got, man? Welcome to episode. No, Ish. What's happening here, man? Welcome to the episode. No, Ish, I have to play something. I have to play something. That's a good one right there.
Starting point is 00:06:16 That's how you know, Ish. Nah, I remember that jump. That's a good one right there. What you know about this here, young man? Mic check, one, two, one, two. Mic check, one, two, one, two. Mic check, one, two, one, two. Hey, did we curse in any of that? Probably.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Bad curse. Oh, shit. I looked at you like, yo, stop cursing. Jesus. I live my thoughts on the wall. When I'm thinking. Starts off my mind. I get that in every child.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I was thinking, hey. Bleep them shits out. Oh, shit, they're going. Oh, god. God damn it. It's cold. Crack a different glass. Almost to seven minutes
Starting point is 00:06:45 I'm gonna get better First of all A 41 year old man Shouldn't curse this much Why do I curse this much In fucking Nah you curse more When you older
Starting point is 00:06:52 You been around no old people All they do is curse Not just that This is casual Funny conversation So curses make jokes funny All black men curse No it just makes shit funnier
Starting point is 00:07:01 These white people Ain't paid me enough To not curse In the first six minutes Of the podcast. Fuck out of here. They might be. You guys, stop cursing.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Shut out the 7F on your phone right now. Let's go there. Hey. Let's go then! Hey! I'm getting ready for that rain that's coming. That's how much of a weirdo I am. Right now it's raining in South Carolina. It's been raining for days out there.
Starting point is 00:07:38 It's coming this way. Oh, am I excited. I'll be sitting by the window waiting for rain. Yeah! Let's go then. She's got to chill for a second. Hold on. Yeah, all right. Uh-oh. Microphone check, one, two we got fall in new york going on right now some of y'all
Starting point is 00:08:12 know what that means some of y'all might not shit out to anybody listening listening. It go. Yeah. Let's go to it. Hey. On TikTok, this one. Nah, they singing along out there. Shout out to everybody listening.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Love and love. Let's go. The circumstance. Everybody out there fine tuning the roster up. You win some, you lose some. You're hitting the reset button out there. Texas aggravated. It's aggravated.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I only want to love you more. Text is aggravating, it's aggravating. What you said to her though, let's go then. They never understand, Alexander. They never understand. There you go. Guess what though? It is the way we planned it. You fucked this up with your stupid ass argument. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I had this shit planned to a T. Worked out perfectly. Ay. But come back home though. Ay. When you come back from DR. Come on, come back home. When you come back from DR.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yeah. That's when you come back home? Huh? Alright, hold up. We're going to turn this off, bro. We're going to have some fun right now. We're going to have some fun in this podcast. We're going to end these 400 shits with a bang.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Hold up. Let's start with some applause. Let's start with love. Start with some love, man. Who we love? Who we loving today? I love everybody. Not for daddy.
Starting point is 00:10:15 It's Parks. It's Parks. What's up? It's Parks! You're icing it. Microphone check. One, two, what is this? Welcome to episode 471. Three. 473 of the Joe Budden Podcast I am Joe Budden here with a few really good people Parks is here, Ish is here, Ice is here, Corey is here
Starting point is 00:10:35 And there's dudes in the back doing some shit Looking at screens, how's everybody feeling? How's everybody doing? Oh great, just like I thought you would be That's why I didn't reach out to any of you over the past few days. I just knew you were out there killing shit. Being great. Yeah, killing it.
Starting point is 00:10:51 That's all we can do. Y'all been killing it. I know. You was out there mixing. I seen you. You heard? Are you seen? Like, what happened?
Starting point is 00:10:59 I seen both. Somebody told you? You know, you be out in the streets. Niggas be calling me like, yo, your man is over here. Yeah. I didn't know they did that. Yeah. They seen me? You know. They seen me out there. No, you be out in the streets. Niggas be calling me like, yo, your man is over here. Yeah. I didn't know they did that. Yeah. They seen me?
Starting point is 00:11:06 You knew. They seen me out there. They seen you. They be seeing me when I walk in. Nah, for real. You be feeling like the man? Nah, I'm back. Where you was at?
Starting point is 00:11:15 I don't know. You went somewhere? I don't know, but wherever I was at, I was there. You back? Wherever I was at, I was there. OK. Glad to have you back. There's never a spot I could go, see, and. You back? Wherever I was at, I was there. Okay. Glad to have you back. There's never a spot I could go, see, and that's why cheating is dead.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Girls be thinking this about them. No, cheating is dead because it's not a spot I could go to when I wasn't there. It's impossible. You was there. That's deep, yo. That was you. That was deep. No, that was really you.
Starting point is 00:11:40 No, everybody said it. That's deep. It came from everywhere. This man called him. All right. guess what? I don't have to cheat. Now I'm telling the truth. They'd be so mad when it's the truth.
Starting point is 00:11:54 They'd still be looking, right? Come on, let's move on. What were you saying? You get back from DR and how you feeling, what? You said, yo, you planned the argument perfectly. Because we was leading out to something good. What were we talking about in the car? It was something good. Guy strips.
Starting point is 00:12:10 DR would be a good place for a guy strip. Now, come on. Let's just... Or not. Yeah, there we go. Yo, Ish, you're getting the hang of this part. Or not. No, stop. Everybody stop for a second. Nah, let me play the drop. Ice name is in this drop,
Starting point is 00:12:25 but we got to fix it now. We got to give him his own drop. We got to give you, because you, you really like, no, but Ice been that dude. Oh, yeah. You just coming from
Starting point is 00:12:34 building a garage somewhere. It wasn't even a whole house. Yeah, he got down there in just garages. You just coming from telling somebody, nah, I think the stone rock, stony rock here is really what's... Stone rock. You just coming from telling somebody, nah, I think the stone rock, stony rock here is really what's...
Starting point is 00:12:47 Stone rock. You just doing that. So now, like, we got to give flowers. That's the new thing, right? You put the flowers in even. Architect, landscaper. This guy does it. And I got to talk to you, too,
Starting point is 00:13:03 because my little toilet paper holder thing fell off the wall. He's reducing you too. You're the handyman. Just call Simple Human. Simply Human makes the hole? Yes. Simply Human is not just a big scam company.
Starting point is 00:13:19 I'm waiting for the American Greed episode. Why? Garbage cans should not cost as much. Fan, you want to have a real talk about Simply Human? We on Patreon. Where we at right now?
Starting point is 00:13:32 Now, I don't want to say nothing bad. American Greed. I don't want to say nothing bad. They're great garbage cans. That's where my brain is twisted. Simply Human should pay me to not say nothing bad.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Because it's a lot bad you can say. But I'm standing on morality and integrity and I believe they scamming but I support the scam. I buy,
Starting point is 00:13:52 I buy that shit. They make me think I need garbages in places that shouldn't have. Let me put one in the closet over here in case I got a paper towel
Starting point is 00:14:00 I don't want to throw out over here. And then my stupid ass falling in the trash. Let me see what garbage bag. Oh, this need the H garbage bags. Then they stop selling the H garbage. They get you like Apple got you.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I love Apple. Apple didn't get nothing. Apple's doing a fine job. Nobody got nothing. You're fucking tricking me. Everybody's killing. That good old Apple. They got me how Bed Bath & Beyond got me.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I was the last person buying a vacuum that needed a bag. They got me how Bed Bath & Beyond got me. I was the last person buying a vacuum that needed a bag. That was me. I was the last person to buy a vacuum that needed a bag. And we're going to move on. We got things to talk about. But right, I buy some $600 vacuum
Starting point is 00:14:36 out of Bed Bath & Beyond. It come with a specific type of bag that only the company makes. Then the company stopped making the bag. They stopped servicing the bag to this particular Bed Bath & Beyond. It's like, yo, dog. That's what scared me away from the Roomba mop.
Starting point is 00:14:47 They make a Roomba that mops, but you got to get the juice from Roomba. I was like, I'm cool. Can you just put the water in that shit? A little bit of salt?
Starting point is 00:14:56 I said a little water, but I'm not cleaning my floors with water. And when we begin to have these talks, it reminds me of the Adam Knows Everything episode where they started talking about prescription glasses and how the company that owns the
Starting point is 00:15:08 prescription glasses owns the company that makes the frames, which owns the eye resolution, which owns contact lenses, which owns sunglasses. I'm like, wait a minute. I got to make sure my eyes work forever. Y'all keep playing. Yeah. And all the designer sunglasses made in the same spot they make the fucking cheap shits. Same exact spot.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yeah. Just put a different tag on it. That's it. See? It's only certain people that they allow to monopolize. Indeed. Well, really,
Starting point is 00:15:35 they don't want nobody to monopolize until they can monopolize at first. They really don't want you to monopolize. Or you just got enough juice where you just start
Starting point is 00:15:42 throwing your weight around. Y'all know y'all don't even call me or text me about Monopoly no more. I like it like that. That should be acknowledged. You said you do a lot of that stuff. And then let's start our podcast. You said you do a lot of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:52 And then let's start our podcast. You look to play today. But that should be acknowledged. Talk about it, Ish. Honestly. I know the fans might not care. No, they care. Let me tell y'all.
Starting point is 00:16:00 We have played probably over 350 games of Monopoly, and I have won a lot of them. Oh, but back to giving Ish praise. Yo, did Scottie Pippen win the MVP that year that Michael left? Did he win it? I don't remember. I don't think so. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Eladjuan might have won it or something like that. But they were saying Scottie should have probably won. That's what pod-ish reminds me of. You're trying to win it from me. But... You know what I mean? But... You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:16:34 I was there if I was there. If I wasn't right here, you would be building houses. Pod, I would be going crazy. Come on, let's get to it. What y'all want to do? What y'all want to do? Let's get to it. We was talking about the guy's trip shit. Oh, guy's trip to it. What y'all want to do? What y'all want to do? Let's get to it. We was talking about the guy's trip shit, no?
Starting point is 00:16:45 Oh, guy's trip. DR. Guy's trip. We can't go on a guy's trip because all the guys I know are too soft to man up and go in their house and say, yo, I'm going on a guy's trip. I'll do it. No, I'll do it too. No, I won't.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I won't say I'm going to DR on a guy's trip. Why not? Because I can't. Then how's she going to learn? I might not be able to get away with a DR guy's trip. Yeah. Thank you, sir. Oh, what do y'all want to go to?
Starting point is 00:17:08 Well, because my wife's family is from DR. We're not going to Kansas. We can go to Kansas. Dorothy and I do. You can't party around your wife's family? You got people in the neighborhood. That was a bad one. Boy, boy, boy.
Starting point is 00:17:20 That was a bad one, boy. He flipped it on me. He flipped it on me. You got nothing? That was a bad one. Well, no, because she would be like, why can't I go? I want to go see my family. It wouldn't work. That was a bad one He flipped it on me He flipped it on me You got nothing That was a bad one Well no Cause she would be like Why can't I go
Starting point is 00:17:26 I wanna go see my family It wouldn't work And then you would Wait wait You know you'll put your Pumas down And say cause I said so Yeah it's a guy's trip Damn Puma probably don't make
Starting point is 00:17:37 The all foot down Puma The all foot down Puma They probably don't make that Puma No they're light They're light Alright so you And that's why a guy's trip don't make that pool. No, they're light. All right, so you... And that's why a guy's trip can't happen. So where?
Starting point is 00:17:47 Brazil? No. Cabo? Tulum? Turks? I do Tulum. Nothing sunny. Nothing sunny.
Starting point is 00:17:54 We can do Turks. Fam, we can't go to Miami. You can't go to Miami. We can go to Miami. Miami is the DR. It's the same thing. No, I'm not going. There's no way that we could pull off... And that's the problem. Why are the same thing. No, I'm not going. There's no way
Starting point is 00:18:05 that we could pull off and that's the problem. Why are we even here talking about our opinions on things? If we can't take it. Because we're all pussy. We're pusillanimous.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Yeah, we, yeah. There's no way. DR is out. I know that. Yeah. I want to unpack why, why is that? Like, no,
Starting point is 00:18:20 why do we accept that for ourselves? We don't, we don't have more confidence in ourselves, our beliefs. No, we have confidence in us. They don't have more confidence in ourselves, our beliefs. No, we have confidence in us.
Starting point is 00:18:27 They don't have confidence. Yeah. Or they just don't want to miss the fun in my wife's case. She would be like, you can't go somewhere nice without me. So once you're married,
Starting point is 00:18:35 you can't have fun without your wife. I don't know. I don't know if I can. Not Miami fun. Miami maybe. Miami can happen. I can probably do Miami.
Starting point is 00:18:42 DR is not happening. Yeah, DR is probably not happening. They just insert you in threesomes when you say you're going to Miami. Or DR, or Brazil, or Costa Rica, or East Orange. And then they do that. Yo, dog, every time you leave your house, it's 50-50 what you're going to do. So you can't go to Miami, but you can 1099 her.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Sounds about right. That is sick. That is sick. You should be able to go to DR if you can 1099 her, though. Fam, you should be able to go to DR, period. But in today's, I'm not going to DR. I'm not even taking that conversation home. I'm going to tell you, Ish didn't even approach the argument.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Yo, wow, we are so defeated as men. Yes. He didn't even approach how to. And he had it at the tip of his tongue. Yo, shorty, this is, yo, what's. I'm not sure. You know what? I'm not sure how that one's going to work.
Starting point is 00:19:36 No, I'm not even taking that argument. But that was my point about 1099 and your wife. No, that one could work. That's a mutual benefit. Yeah, exactly. So is your happiness, you fucking slut. Oh, that one could work. That's a mutual benefit. Yeah, exactly. That's different. So is your happiness, you fucking slut. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Fam. This is when they attack me and say Joe's bugging Joe as well and it's just Scottie Pippen. Your happiness is not detrimental to the relationship just as a guy? No. Now I'm triggering the relationships listening. And I'm sorry, Parks, every time he do this with his little beard, I know that I should
Starting point is 00:20:09 probably chill out a little bit. No, you good. And when Ice get quiet, I know I should chill out a little bit. So I'm chilling out. No, but to answer your question, no.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Happiness is definitely imperative in your relationship. No, it's not. But there are different ways to obtain happiness outside of the Dominican Republic. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Her happiness is. That's not true. Not in my relationship. I can't speak for that. I'm just saying. I speak for mine. I don't got to gain happiness by going to Costa Rica.
Starting point is 00:20:31 The phrase happy wife, happy life exists for a reason. He's not lying. That's all I'm saying. We could probably go somewhere like to the woods or something like that. We could go to Amaro.
Starting point is 00:20:40 We could go to Amaro. Dope-ass cabins over there in Vermont. We could go camping. Stupid-ass cabin in Vermont. Hey. Go pod up there. Go skiing.
Starting point is 00:20:49 A ski mountain. We can probably do that. Can we do the Poconos? No, but it'd be bunnies. Nah, damn it. Ski bunnies. Damn. So let me go.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Ish. Poconos. Poconos. Could I do the Poconos? I think we could. Yeah, we could. We could. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Fam, girls don't want to know about any olive-toned, long hair, big, nice-leg, booty thing that's potentially going to be in your Airbnb. Fam, I can cheat from my basement. You could. But the odds are greater. No, it's not. Are you going to DR? Joey, it's out there for $15. I know that that's not even a gyro. I know that that's not the norm, so I'm not going to argue it.
Starting point is 00:21:37 But y'all know I go to these places and stay in the room. I stay at the resort. We all do. Dog, honestly, when you go to a hotel room, that relaxation be different. It's like it's something extra in the room. I stay at the resort. We all do. Dog, honestly, when you go to a hotel room, that relaxation be different. It's like it's something extra in the sheets. Yo, you just get the best sleep with the dark curtains. You just be in there knocked out.
Starting point is 00:21:54 That's relaxation. You can turn your phone off and just be straight chilling. So girls do think that we out here just running amok, but niggas just be relaxing. Yeah, but know how I know that they know that there's some time
Starting point is 00:22:09 that we want to be alone on the trip is because they've all been on the trip with us. True. And you be wanting to sleep and they be wanting to go to... They know we ain't having
Starting point is 00:22:17 a blast the whole time. Yeah, they want to go to volcanoes. None of that. I don't want no excursion. Ziplining. They want to go to volcano land and I want to be asleep. Oh my God, I want to go downtown.
Starting point is 00:22:27 All right, I'm down with that for what? I don't even know. I want to get a souvenir. Well, how long do you want to go? Oh, okay. I want to go down to the bar and then come back to the room and take a nap. Go down to cloud nine. If we go downtown, I think there's like a ship that takes you to another ship and it
Starting point is 00:22:43 takes you to 90 different islands and we can see them all in 90 minutes. And the purple fish. I'm like, why would you want to do that? Nothing about that sounds funny. Nothing sounds funny about that. All right, I got a couple hours. Come on, what you want to do? Nemo.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Well, well, I think there's this famous circle of sharks, and they just swim around you if you dive in the middle. I do not want to swim with the sharks. I just seen somebody on Instagram talk about, oh, the jellyfish got me. I do not want to swim with the sharks. I just seen somebody on Instagram talking about, oh, the jellyfish got me. I'm like, uh. What the fuck was that? I seen it.
Starting point is 00:23:11 You seen it too, right? Good for your bum ass. Why are you in their room? You in the water. It's 900. Why are you in their room? It's 900 jellyfish, and your human dumb ass
Starting point is 00:23:21 jump in the middle for a photo op, and that's when you know humanity is going to lose. Humanity is going to lose against whatever's coming. I don't stand in front of 900 nothing. Ray Kwan had five niggas with him, and I chose to do something different that day. You're talking 900 or something. Nah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Listen, man, come on. For the photo. Come on, let's move on. It's all about the photo op, yo. Come on, let's get to it. What do we need to discuss? Tell me where y'all want to begin. Because I got a hunch.
Starting point is 00:23:53 And before you start. I'm sorry. Sorry about what? The internet. The internet was talking this week. I ain't got nothing to apologize. I have nothing. Yo, what's wrong with y'all Yo what's this
Starting point is 00:24:11 Come on I do a pod twice a week I have to talk about things Rest in peace To the greatest voice Of my lifetime of course Oh What's up Parks
Starting point is 00:24:22 What happened What you seen this weekend What you want from me You want you seen on the internet, Parks? What you want from me? You want my opinion on something? Yeah. No way you want Joe in women's business. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:24:30 You don't want Joe to insert himself in women's business. You can get in Joyner's business. Huh? You can get in Joyner Lucas' business. Even that's women's business. That's women's business. It is. I don't move like I'm from the 90s.
Starting point is 00:24:44 What y'all want me to say? Come on. I heard y'all tweeting me. What's up? I'm here. Y'all be thinking I'm a call-out sick. Nah. Man healthy.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Man ain't coughed in ages. That Johnson & Johnson shit working out for me. Hey, hold up. Let's talk about that for a minute, too. Hey, God got a funny sense of humor, boy. Hey, where y'all all at? Boy, y'all made me feel. That was down and out
Starting point is 00:25:06 for a little while. Yo. Hey. Hey, now look. Nobody wants to. Hey, nobody wants Fonzo, boy. Play with your little beard.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I am. I got jokes from you. I got jokes from everybody. Hey, Johnson & Johnson is only using they shit to fuck up the other products. What you mean? Like, whatever else they make, they fucking it only using their shit to fuck up the other products.
Starting point is 00:25:25 What you mean? Like, whatever else they make, they fucking it up. They didn't fuck up the vaccine. The vaccine? Solid. They decided to get honest. You know what? People got to live.
Starting point is 00:25:34 We got to do this the right way. One shot. I think that's the most cost-effective cool because they did it. Hey, I ain't heard a peep. I'm jogging around. I'm scootering. Keep got COVID. Oh, damn, keep.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Get better. Get better, keep. What's that, Pfizer? You got your seventh booster for the month. Moderna's strong, too, boy. They put out the numbers. They put out the numbers. We looking good.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Yeah, we look all right. I just sit back and chill. I don't talk about it no more. Like, oh, that's what y'all got? Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. You know all right. I just sit back and chill. I don't talk about it no more. Like, oh, that's what y'all got? Sorry to hear that. Sorry to hear that, yeah. You know, thoughts and prayers. Sure, what's something a little higher end? Put some respect on that Johnson & Johnson.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Yeah, yeah. Knock on marble. We got some respect. Knock on marble, velvet, something. Yeah, it's been a little quiet for the Johnson & Johnson. I ain't heard nothing since that little blood clot thing. It was quiet. That little blood clot thing.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Well, I mean, it was little. The small clot. Ain't heard nothing else. Okay. I heard a lot from the other side. I saw something that we, Moderna gang, the true winners here. Yeah, yeah. It's only like 7% of the motherfuckers getting that shit.
Starting point is 00:26:34 We up, up. We up. We up big. I'm chilling. All I know is I've been outside. Still have my mask being responsible. And I ask people if they're vaccinated before I take pictures and all that stuff. But I've been outside.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I hookered behind someone. I did. Did you bring your own nipple? No. Well, I have my own thing. What else have I did, man? I don't know. Everything's a deal.
Starting point is 00:27:02 I've put my hands right on the same place all of you guys did to get out the bodega at the gas station. We didn't change our location. We didn't just open the door out there. We ain't being safer. Humans is stupid, man. We're going to lose. Yeah. But guess what, Johnson & Johnson?
Starting point is 00:27:20 Yeah. They holding it down. Don't worry about it. No, no, no. Y'all look good. Don't worry about it. I'm going to let Stephanie Mills tell them what's going on with me baby I'm sorry Pfizer people
Starting point is 00:27:29 Oh but wait In four years Wait how many years Biden got left Three I think Two Come on let's talk This podcast is all over the place But I don't care let's talk
Starting point is 00:27:43 Three That's the thing about This podcast is all over the place, but I don't care. Let's talk. That's the thing about Trump. I don't even care. We're all over the place. It's fine. When Trump was fucking up, at least he'd get on the TV and be like, Hey, fuck y'all. The Bible's upside down.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I hate your church. Hey, he up there with Fl flake um he up there with everybody he's just bugging out right but he was giving it to you at least he would pop up he didn't run from it even bush when fucked up shit was happening with bush he would just already be in the public looking stupid so we could just see him like then i'm buying in the cut i ain't seeing him i want it where you at dog son the nigga just got on TV the other day and said, yo, with all the hurricanes that's going on, you know what would help? Umbrellas?
Starting point is 00:28:31 If y'all get the vaccine. Yo, what the fuck is he talking about? Round of applause. What the fuck is your cousin talking about, yo? Don't do that. That's not my cousin. Every chance you get, you try to remind me that my fucking ancestors were raped. Like, what's up with you?
Starting point is 00:28:52 That's some real shitty B.O. What is this nigga talking about? Get the fuck out of here. Come on, we're not starting with the vaccine or Biden, but I would like him to pop up. And we are going to get to that with what they're doing over there on horses. What's the word for it? It's not whips, slains, whatever you said. It was the reins.
Starting point is 00:29:11 They was using them shits like whips. Indeed. That shit, right, all jokes aside, that shit just looks so... This is disgusting, man. Yeah, bro. It looks literally like some shit you saw on Roots. Like, what are you coming in and say when you, like, this is weird podcasting is weird.
Starting point is 00:29:31 It's like, we got to keep reiterating the same thing for our lives. My nigga, that shit is not funny, like, dog. That's not a ring. Yeah, that's not a ring. Yeah, with his left hand. Dog. That's a whip. Even if it's not a whip, he's using it like a whip. That's not a ring. Yeah, that's not a ring. Yeah, with his left hand. Dog. That's a whip. Even if it's not a whip, he's using it like a whip.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Who the fuck entitles you to hit another person? With something. Like, that shit is crazy, dog. It just looks disgusting. Like, this looks disgusting. It is disgusting. Bro, this shit looks, the optics, yeah. That's what I was even going to say.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Who's taking this? The optics of this are just disgusting, bro. Like, this shit looks, the optics, yeah. That's what I was even going to say. Who's taking this? The optics of this are just disgusting, bro. Like, that's nuts to me, to even be able to pull off a picture like that. Seriously. What are you doing? I'm sure the journalists maybe were out there to- What the fuck are they supposed to do? Run over there and say, stop?
Starting point is 00:30:16 I'm just saying, you're standing right here. That just looks nuts. That's a different photo. I can't answer what they're supposed to do. Yeah, that shit looks crazy. I just know having such a clear picture of that. And 2021 is disheartening. That shit looks crazy, bro.
Starting point is 00:30:30 It's like you can't even put it in words. Word. And that's who we are. Those gentlemen should be thrown under the jail. And hopefully they are, but they probably won't be. They won't. They probably won't. They won't.
Starting point is 00:30:40 No, they won't. At the bare minimum, they'll get death's duty or some shit. We're going to get that. Maybe not. We're get that. Maybe not. We're not going to get anything. They might not. Let's take away their horse, maybe. You're on foot duty for a week.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Yeah. Foot duty. Fucking horse look like he was resisting when the animal's no better. The horse be like, yo, nigga, come on. What the fuck is you doing, man? What the fuck is you doing? This is too much. He probably was hitting the horse with the same whip.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Of course. That's nasty. Nasty. I'm off of you. You're going to depress me. You did it. It's too much. He probably was hitting the horse with the same whip. Of course. It's nasty. It's nasty. I'm off of you. You're going to depress me. You did it. I don't consume. Did I?
Starting point is 00:31:09 Yeah. You did. I'm sorry. Yeah, you did. I didn't mean to. It's all right, bro. It's cool. It's a fine outstanding.
Starting point is 00:31:13 That's cool. Let's get off of that one. You was in a good mood. Yeah, I'm in a great mood. I try not to consume that stuff because yikes. Hard not to. And then it's like, it's a fine line because you don't want to come on your platform
Starting point is 00:31:26 and ignore it and not speak about it but then it's like you speak about it what do you say about that and for a lot of people like certain platforms
Starting point is 00:31:35 it's like escape from some of this shit you know what I'm saying like if I'm getting beat in the face with this everywhere I look I want to go somewhere where I can kind of
Starting point is 00:31:42 take my mind off of that like let me just get some positivity let me laugh right yeah I was on where I can kind of take my mind off of that. Like, let me just get some positivity. Let me laugh. Right. Yeah, I was on the side. I kind of get it. I was on the side that was happy that the Mets played that game.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I think that was the Mets after 9-11. I think they were the first team to play, and they had to argue about it, and people wanted their mind off of that. Yeah. Sometimes you just need something to take you off of this. Some release, yeah, from some dreary shit Some outstanding Please
Starting point is 00:32:06 Yeah Got you Please Give us a little This shit is disgusting Oh you Oh you Y'all sound shit out
Starting point is 00:32:13 When you get this Out Out I ain't gonna tell y'all Me and my I argue with my spell check All the time Like alright I knew that
Starting point is 00:32:21 Nah you ever keep trying And spell check don't get it Like you know what I'm trying, all right, I knew that. Nah, you keep trying. Is it spellcheck don't get it? Like, you know what I'm trying to say. Yeah. Then you put it into Google, and it knows exactly what you're trying to say. And then I think spellcheck is racist. Because why y'all don't know some of these words? Like, why Mandela don't just pop up?
Starting point is 00:32:38 How many other times you type Mandela? This thing is so stupid. Beyonce popped right up. You look like you about to press B. And they give you the little B emoji. Yeah, they give you man emojis, right? I'm freestyling right now, but whatever. Yo, y'all was silly.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I knew this would be a silly vibe. Where you at, you sweet dog? I'm by the edge First, all the Haitian refugees Yeah Wish that I could love you back No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, You blow my mind I ain't doing nothing You blow my mind I ain't satisfied Outstanding
Starting point is 00:33:42 So outstanding I ain't satisfied Hey. Now I'm getting old. Like, it was a real event, me putting these Air Force 1s on today for you. Why? Well, 3XYT, you'll be back in the 90s. 3X, I've slimmed down a bit. No, but you wore the 3X. I met your goals. All the goals you set for yourself.
Starting point is 00:34:09 He beat you to your goal. All of your body goals you set. I'm always better than you. And you didn't, though. And you're not. But it's okay. But it's okay. I got it.
Starting point is 00:34:19 All right, come on. What y'all want to talk about? Oh, from that, it's only right we get into it. Come on. Come on. Let's do it. Let's do it. I don't really want to talk about that. You have to. Come on, what y'all want to talk about? Oh, from that, it's only right we get into it. Come on, come on, let's do it. Let's do it. I don't really want to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:34:26 You have to. Come on. But wait, wait, before we, let me just tie my cape on. Let's report the news. Come on, let's report the news. This weekend, y'all was bored. Joyner was very bored. Head time.
Starting point is 00:34:40 See, look, I'm biased already. All right. I'm going to be biased. I'm going to be objective. Hey, Fox News is biased. Yeah. Y'all'm going to be biased. I'm going to be objective. Hey, Fox News is biased. Yeah. Y'all want me to be the most honest guy. So is CNN.
Starting point is 00:34:49 So is all these shit. Everybody biased. Y'all biased. Y'all move the goalposts around for who you like, who you don't like. But come on, let's do it. And that's why this is a little bit funny to me. And that's why I got to shut up. I need more therapy.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Why? Because sometimes when the internet is internet, you just got to let them internet. You can't come in and like- back no talk no it took everything in me to not say nothing i wanted you know what we were saying well me and ice know what we were saying each other you can't say that no you can't we got to get better as professionals and businessmen and like do this and until we do we don't say nothing yeah so y'. So y'all got on Karen Civil. Boy, everybody did, too. He was coming out the woodworks.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Boy, did they. I know how that feels. Y'all threw women empowerment right out the window. Come on. Let me put the mirror right on y'all. Boy, boy, will y'all change some shit around. Y'all threw mental health out the window. Boy, when y'all cut, it
Starting point is 00:35:45 rains. Y'all said a bunch of shit. Joyner Lucas said, Karen Civil stole some money from him. I was home saying, so what?
Starting point is 00:36:04 That's so what? Hey, my business account ran off with that's all I had to tell you hey my business account ran off with every dime I made in 04 cause I still ain't seen them made it back
Starting point is 00:36:15 thank the lord thank the lord but I know that's insensitive that dismisses that's horrible but it's consistent from me I'ma be honest with you fuck it I ain't I know that's insensitive. That's dismissive. That's horrible. It is. But it's consistent from me. I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Fuck it. I ain't here to give it to you today. All y'all dudes said, oh, my God, the Patriots cheating. They taped the signals from the other side of the thing. Know what that was in the house I had? Smart. Hey, hey. I wish y'all would have did that.
Starting point is 00:36:42 That was the voice. It's good. Wait. Hey, I was in the outfit. I thought to take the air out of the ball. That was smart. That was good. A squishy ball is way easier to catch.
Starting point is 00:36:58 I was home making some eggs. That damn Bill does it again. Yo, wait. The goal. They was in Cleveland. It's your stadium. How do Patriots know your stadium better than y'all wherever it was? They can beat you anyway. Yo, when the report
Starting point is 00:37:11 came out, I said, yo, they was in the conference room. It was a dude that was supposed to be a ball boy, but he was really a high-tech camera assassin with scopes, and he spotted the... I'm like, yo, they deserve the scam. Yo, what about... Yo. They got the CIA baseball like yo they deserve the scam they got the CIA they had the little buzzers they would say
Starting point is 00:37:30 they was cheating nah that one made me mad why made you mad it was the Yankees you know how many times they beat the Yankees on some bullshit no you know what no no stop that's not the only reason why though
Starting point is 00:37:44 that's not a deuce supporter No, no, stop, stop, stop, stop. That's not the only reason why, though. That's not the only reason. I do support a scam. But the Astros are already up. They built the largest baseball field in the world. If you could hit a home run out of there, you need steroids, and they won't let you take them. It's a cheat code to play over there. It is.
Starting point is 00:38:00 So now you want to put... What's them shits called? The cameras that fly around? The drones. Drones. Now y'all want to put What's them shits called The cameras that fly around The drones Drones Now y'all want to put drones Over the At least the Red Sox
Starting point is 00:38:10 Just took some of that old shit Hey make the ball stick to your hand Or whatever they shit They put some shit on his sock That was the old school shit The Astros They turned it up I didn't like that
Starting point is 00:38:20 That wasn't right That wasn't right High tech scamming doesn't do it for you You can't put a fucking Flying camera over the state, over the field. That's crazy. Why? Kind of smart.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Kind of smart. Why not? They did it mid-game. In a game. They did it in a World Series. At least Bill was like, hey, yo. Hey, did they win? Hey, Bill was like, yo.
Starting point is 00:38:38 I was trying to get the Bengals first. No, Bill said, yo, what y'all doing Saturday morning, man? Run over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did it work? Oh, yeah. They won. They won Saturday morning, man? Run over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did it work? Oh, yeah. What the fuck are you talking about? It's only a scam.
Starting point is 00:38:49 It's only a scam. I mean, that's one way to look at it. That's one way to look at it. It worked. Okay. And then preseason started the next year. As did in football. And then they threw eggs, tomatoes, batteries, bats, bullets and everything else
Starting point is 00:39:07 Y'all play outside still, it's baseball dog The fans, hey Them players stopped coming out They started responding, defending and cheating I mean, did it work? They gonna light them up Yeah, they won They should take that back
Starting point is 00:39:21 Or let Pete Rose in Anyway They should let Pete Rose in Pete Rose should be in. Agreed. And while we at it, bring back Tim Tom, Tim Donahue. Let him point shave some more. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:32 No, point shave. I didn't like that. Point shave. Do it. I didn't like that. He made shit interesting. I don't like when the refs cheat. I don't like people regulating the scammers.
Starting point is 00:39:41 I don't think that scamming, I don't think that, hey, that was a good scam, it should continue to work, should only be reserved for the people it's reserved for. I know my brain is sick, but I watch American Greed 24-7 and it's not enough black scammers up there.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Okay. It ain't. And these white scams are creative. The black scammers ain't getting caught. The camera didn't get caught. Ain't nobody but Cam and them.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Let me stop. Come on, let's be correct. Thank you. Let's be right. Come on. That's it. That's a joke. All that's joking.
Starting point is 00:40:17 It's a joke. It's a joke. I don't know nothing about this. I'm staying out of it. Ain't my business. That's what I got for you. Y'all take it from Charlamagne. God damn it, you're going to take it from Joe.
Starting point is 00:40:29 That was pro move. Me and Charlamagne be giving y'all bullshit now. Let's fuck up. Let's fuck up. Yo, I seen him do it. I was like, oh, there. He took my shit. Beat you to it.
Starting point is 00:40:38 All right, he was on on Monday. I was like, fuck. Fuck. That guy is good. All right, we'll take it. Go get guy is good. All right, what's up? Go get him a tomato. I don't know. For everybody that keeps saying, yo, Ice, I know you're going to keep it real on this.
Starting point is 00:40:51 No, I'm not. That's it. Hey, if she did some of that shit, man, wow. All right. Sorry. Yo, is that what you want? All year, I put myself in women's business and want me to tell you what it did for me so why i gotta be the voice of reason in this because karen is on my network karen is on my
Starting point is 00:41:16 network because i see tremendous value in karen she's an asset to many of the things that that i do and i've seen her be an asset to many of y'all many of y'all emphasis on many see i'm different i'm different i'm different i'm different karen has been there for me in turmoil when the internet was internetting to me why y'all being weird to me she was there answered the phoneood up Didn't have to She was running around With a lot of y'all A-list niggas
Starting point is 00:41:48 That wouldn't even speak to niggas It was a lot of dudes That felt privileged And honored To have her on the team Whatever work or don't work How the fuck would I know I'm out of my business
Starting point is 00:41:58 I don't speak to people About their dealings Right I'm not here to tell y'all about I'm not here to vouch for nothing that happened in karen's life that's not the role that i play in her life today how would you even know i'm not one of them people that get outside of my role in people's lives today it's a lot going on unfortunately i was there to see a lot of it and a lot of it is women shit
Starting point is 00:42:25 whatever I was there to see with some of the claims about the stealing of IPs and ideas couldn't be more false I can say that because I seen it I was there I was there when a few of these clubhouse grooms was
Starting point is 00:42:42 being formed when we started this Girl Like Us podcast. Oh, they tore Karen down. They tore her ass up. Oh, that's my shit. I was a dude sitting there watching like, damn. All right. That's women's here.
Starting point is 00:42:59 That's women business. And my beep wasn't even. Oh, that's more women's shit. It's a lot of women's shit. And I'm a dude from the 90s. So I***. My beep wasn't even. Oh, that's more women shit. It's a lot of women shit. And I'm a dude from the 90s. So I'm going to mind my business here. I know that the internet has the ability to dehumanize. I started this podcast to be talking about Haiti.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Dehumanizing. Dehumanizing is a sore spot for me. So I'm not going to do that with some of the people that are close to me that i know some of the stuff that they go through some of their demons and some of the things that they battle with the internet could do that none of the people i look up to do it on the internet i don't see peyton manning do it. I didn't see Kobe do it. The people that's like really busy with business, and that's not to sound like a classist, but the people that got shit going on, I say that in old relationships of mine. Hey, dog, if you had some shit going on, you wouldn't be bothering me with this. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:43:58 I'm consistent. I'm consistent. Right, wrong, I'm going to be consistent in my messaging. Hopefully, if some of this shit has ever been true it stopped see see how see how easy it is to be politically correct and unbiased hey if that happened i hope it stopped and i hope they find some resolution yeah i was gonna do this yo my man let me tell you let me tell y'all about my man sav man shout out to Sav also in our fantasy football league story helped mold me early on as artists right but I was down and out at Def Jam Sav was on his way up was only
Starting point is 00:44:35 working with the hottest of the hot uh real integral piece over there at Def Jam and he called me one day and said yo dawg got a bag for you to get out to Hong Kong, do some shit, get right back. I had never been. The rate was a little higher. The flight was a little longer. I went, came back, asked me if I paid him. Did you pay him? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Didn't give him shit. Because he didn't want to get paid? No, he wanted to get paid. That's who I was then. To some people listening sounds crazy to every artist you know the feeling don't internet me to death you know what it is when the pie come back and you get there and if you don't you blessed and sav hit me man because i gotta give you that i'll send you that money see but the blessed part is it's cheaper
Starting point is 00:45:28 look how fast we right back to my point you don't need it you don't need it wouldn't bother me for it wouldn't even ask me nothing about it see Sav all the time
Starting point is 00:45:37 he just went on and do great things when he wasn't focused on that when I say that to some of these up and coming artists I don't say it because I'm aware how it sounds it sounds dismissive when he wasn't focused on that. When I say that to some of these up-and-coming artists, I don't say it because I'm aware of how it sounds.
Starting point is 00:45:47 It sounds dismissive. It sounds insensitive. It sounds like, oh, you don't really understand. But what they don't understand is all you're doing is talking from understanding because you did it, because you've been there. I'm looking inward. If I hire a team and my manager tells me that you paid them the entire budget up front, I'm looking inward.
Starting point is 00:46:09 I'm looking at my squad. Sorry. I don't expect the casual fan to know that. I don't. It's also a very vague. That's weird. I don't know the full details of that shit. Well, I'm just going because I heard him say it.
Starting point is 00:46:21 He said, you asked for 60 and we sent 60. Or you asked for 50 and we sent 50. Well, where the hell they do that at? I'm tearing somebody up. And in general, PR shit
Starting point is 00:46:32 and marketing shit is not the easiest thing to quantify. And not only that, like, you can't prove like, I could have done
Starting point is 00:46:41 my job. If it don't click, it don't click. That's what I'm saying. It's not quantifiable. Yeah, you can't just say, hey, I gave you this money. My record didn't take off. Hell, it's scams all over, dog.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Hey, newsflash. I hate to be the bearer of bad news. There's scams everywhere. And I'm not saying it's okay to scam in this situation. I'm saying if you're in this business, but the same thing I always say, you got to go learn the scams places that's not me speaking on this particular situation i'm broadening i'm broadening this
Starting point is 00:47:12 up now you gotta go learn it i had to go learn that the lawyer my entertainment lawyer was recommended from somebody who i thought he would be negotiating i had to learn what conflict of interest was and what it really meant as I journeyed through my career and how often I saw it. You know how often there's a conflict of interest? That needs to be talked about a whole lot more. I got conflicts with most of y'all. We joked before about-
Starting point is 00:47:37 I end every contract with a conflict of interest. We've made jokes before about the label providing you your lawyer. Right. You know, is it a scam? You may look at it as looking back saying, yo, the label scammed me. They provided me with a lawyer who worked on their side, who worked in their best interest. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:55 You know what I mean? It's just all things, like you said, you're learning it. You got to learn the scams. You got to learn the tricks that are played. See, the blessing for Joyner is he went on to do great things. Yes. And that's why I won't waste my time with this. Because he's
Starting point is 00:48:12 great. And if he just continues to be great, he's gonna be great. Karen's great. Y'all don't have to like her. She's great at what she does. Whatever that is. And that's how great she is. She's great at what she does.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Whatever that is. And that's how great she is. A lot of people had no idea what Karen did. They calling her a publicist. My mom's like, publicist? Mm-mm. Karen, I love you, man. I love you.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I'm always in support of you. You know I give it up. And if you need me, I'm always be a call away. And if you don't call, I'm gonna be there. So that's just what it is with me. Same and you know it, Karen. Joiner, continue to be great. Just go be great.
Starting point is 00:48:55 That's it. Hey, Joiner, you gonna lose more. Joiner, this will not be the last time you pay somebody and feel like you do not get return on investment. It's going to happen. Tough it up. That's when I sound like I'm the fucking 90s bully on the internet because everything is more sensitive now. And maybe so. It's business.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Maybe so. Maybe so. I'm open to it. I don't know nothing about it. So I don't really want to speak on it. I mean, it's hard because we don't know the full details even with what was put out. We don't know. We'll never know.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I could say from his perspective, if he's telling the truth, I'm sure he chalked up 60K. 60K ain't really no bread for him. Right? Well, at the time he was saying it was. Well, he's saying at the time. I'm saying last.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I had a baby coming. That was my last. I understand what you're saying. he might be putting this out to protect some other young artists from potentially walking down the same road whatever lesson he needs to learn from it i hope he gets it or no he might be trying he might have already got the lesson i'm saying that i'd be trying to get a lesson to somebody else that's younger i could potentially be walking down the same i'd be seeing a lot of my younger in my 20s self in some of these rebellious acts i'm just able to i don't know i don't know i see it i see it i did the interviews cursing out the people that shouldn't have been cursed out yeah you did i did them i fucking i called to the carpet people that nobody else was about to call to the carpet i I affected people, places, and things that could only turn around and infect me.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I was that person. So at 41, it's like you could look back at it and be like, well, what would I have done different with just a proper understanding? I didn't know how the chess game was played. I was just mad that that piece got from near to here. And I was reacting. And that's what it sounds like is happening from Joyner, and I've seen it happen a few times from him.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I hope he does better with that, because I want to see him continue to be great. You're an independent act. You've got all of these 30 and 40 and 50 millions of views and impressions. You did it. He's got an app you did it i'd i would like to see him him and many other people get to a place where and maybe me included where where you see some of the people that might have got a scam off back in the day but the gig is the gig
Starting point is 00:51:20 you got to respect it now they're in a different place and might be able to offer some help with some services because that's not their line of work no more there's too many people that was running bullshit in the 90s that's still present in a different seat in a different capacity today that that's not really their ideology today right that's not what they on that's not what they're thinking i know i know i know here go joe capen is what they say but i mean it's what I'm saying I'm not saying the opposite don't exist but they're out there
Starting point is 00:51:48 shit the next day he got on Steve Stout ass I saw that yeah I saw that and I think he was wrong in that yeah from what I read it looked like he was wrong
Starting point is 00:51:55 he was wrong in it he don't really be having the greatest of understandings of some of the stuff if I own a trademark on a thing and you do the same thing
Starting point is 00:52:04 as me and use my trademark on a thing, I'm going to stop you from doing that. And that does not mean, that doesn't mean I'm trying to penalize the up-and-coming independent artist. At all. This is my trademark, fam. He was rolling out.
Starting point is 00:52:15 What are you doing? Yeah. We do the same thing, and that's my trademark. It's not just, it's just my trademark and you sell apple pies. You're doing the same exact thing
Starting point is 00:52:24 or something close enough to it. Yeah. Sound like he was saying, damn, dog, you trademarked that. Well, yeah. Yeah. I did. That's why I'm Steve Stout. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Right. I've been doing those little tricks since you would have thought in your dad's balls. Do that sound like a Steve Stout cape? No. since you would have thought in your dad's balls. Do that sound like a Steve Stout cape? No. Because he's been doing them. And so do all these other companies and corporations and businesses and independent contractors. Russell Simmons got them niggas doing that shit.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Man, go work in a library. Put the books in alphabetical order. Every company in the world does that. They trademark slogans and trademark names and catchphrases. There's patent trolls that literally just make their money off trademark and shit. And then when a company comes out, they sue you. That's the job. And you settle.
Starting point is 00:53:14 And you settle. Because it is their trademark. Trademarks are a real thing. Even if you feel like, oh, damn, you shouldn't have, you know. It's intellectual property. I came up with it and I got to it first. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I read every week about a patent troll that one of these multi-billion dollar companies are paying. Websites, too. Remember, we used to see it happen. I mean, not a little similar, but we used to see it happen with athletes, right, when they were getting ready to get drafted and shit. Somebody would go buy the domain name with their first and last name. Yeah. All right, now you want your website. Somebody would go buy the domain name, put their first and last name. Yeah. All right, now you want your website, you got to buy the domain off of me.
Starting point is 00:53:47 There's people that just put together weird words that aren't words to buy websites because they know that it'll be worth 30, 40, 50, thousands, if not more, to some company. 10 years from now, you go to buy it, we own it. Yeah. Four years from now, we own it. When the Washington football team
Starting point is 00:54:03 was trying to come up with a name, remember Homeboy that went and just trademarked 30 names that he thought they might come up with? Yep. Smart. When it works, smart. Yeah. Yo, people are smart out here.
Starting point is 00:54:15 People are smart. You got to. In their respective fields. You got to be. You got to start. You got to think outside the box, especially nowadays. We talked about that the other day. You got to start thinking outside the box.
Starting point is 00:54:24 You just got to think ahead. I'm going to go steal parksmusic.com. Sorry, he's gone. I know because I tried to buy it. It was expensive. I tried to buy it. It was expensive. The more we talk, yo. Officially ice.
Starting point is 00:54:40 I'm going to go get that. Got it already. We ain't even got time for Miami tribute. Our girls is right. Listen to what we saying, man. How we going to go to Miami? We broke. We can't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:52 That's true. That's true. It's just part of it. I don't need but too much to have some fun in Miami. Miami, you can have fun in Miami for pretty cheap. Nah, not so tight. For the cheapest. Moving right along.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Moving. I've had fun in Miami outside of this. I don't like Miami, but when you got to go to Wet Willies, then you're at Wet Willies. You know, I probably got to go see a Dolphins game, even though they're going to be terrible this year. I probably still got to go down there and watch a game. Maybe that's an excuse.
Starting point is 00:55:22 They don't play Dallas. I think we played y'all two years ago last year. They probably play somewhere from Texas down there. Y'all should do that on your football podcast. Our own podcast. Then they're going to say that we're being guys. Look at the topic we left to talk about
Starting point is 00:55:36 football. You did it again. You started with the football team. It's over. It's over. What do you want me to say? I don't have anything to say. Shout out you did it with Miami. It's over. It's over. What do you want me to say? I don't have anything to say. Shout to everybody involved. Yeah. Hopefully they work it out.
Starting point is 00:55:49 No, hopefully they work it out. Like, I just don't like sometimes when you make shit public. I agree. But I guess if you feel like you are the mouse in the room with the lion, that's all I have is to make it public. The only out that you have is to go public. My problem with this, and it's more so an internet problem, is if a person did do, let's say she did these things,
Starting point is 00:56:11 or someone did things like this years ago, the internet don't let you grow if they don't like you. Like, you're held to whatever you did years ago, even if that's not you today. What she did to the internet? That I don't know. She's had some moments on the internet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Oh, yeah. I remember there was a couple. Who hasn't had moments on the internet outside of the people I'm referring to? That's famous. Like Jay-Z, Beyonce, the people that don't exist. If you've interneted since 2010, you got some shit out there that's true flat out that's why i'm with all the self-deprecation i've been internetting since oh one like hey there's funny pics out there i laugh they pull up the pic you know y'all so
Starting point is 00:57:01 creative and stupid out there there's a pic uh there's a pic of me in the baggiest jeans in the world in the biggest white tee ever huge Sean John black jacket looking off in the water by the bridge the photographer thought it was fire and I'm looking back they always say look back at it so yesterday some dude was like
Starting point is 00:57:19 me saying goodbye to summer in New York and it was that picture of me looking back like this like a dodo. And you read the comments underneath. It's like, oh, what the worst dress kind of universe. Oh, my God. It's like, fam, it's 2002. That shit was hot.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Yeah, that was the look. Yeah, but I get it. I was internetting. Yo, all of these pictures, there's such a great story for. That pic they kill me. Come on, look at this. Look at this. But I hate to tell you.
Starting point is 00:57:51 That fit would have got it done. Nigga, we would have all wore that shit in 03. The all black Bo Jacksons with the size 40 Omavis or some shit, whatever that is. Like, come on, man. See, they don't know about the Omavis wave. They wasn't there. But I understand. Like, come on, man. See, they don't know about the Omavi wave. They wasn't there. But I understand. That's what the internet does.
Starting point is 00:58:08 When I talk about the internet internetting, if you wasn't there, if you don't know, they kill everybody. If you ever tweeted in 2009, they killing you. But if you wasn't there, you don't kind of. You just wasn't there. I mean, if you wasn't outside for ready to die, then, I mean, the internet, the outside for ready to die, then the internet,
Starting point is 00:58:25 and you got to keep that in perspective. Yo, that 911 was recently. I watched all of these docks that came out, Turning Point, and all the rest of them. And my son came over, my oldest son, and I'm talking to him about it. And I'm spitting because I was holding him. I lived right on Bayview in Jersey City where you could see. You could see the towers fall.
Starting point is 00:58:44 You could see smoke. It was fucked up. And I'm holding my baby. My baby mom's at work. I'm super dad over here. I'm like, fam, do you remember any of this? Nope. Well, you're not supposed to, I guess.
Starting point is 00:58:52 You're however many months old. But, damn, what did I bring this up to say? I'm talking about the internet. Internet. Internet. Oh, that's what you got to remember. They wasn't there. That's 01.
Starting point is 00:59:04 It just wasn't there. It wasn wasn't there That's 01 They just wasn't there Wasn't there That's 01 yeah So it don't It's not gonna resonate You not gonna get The emotional shit from it You not gonna get
Starting point is 00:59:12 The doc's gotta be there now Because we catering To some of the people That just wasn't there They was born in 96 97 98 99
Starting point is 00:59:20 You know the impact That some of these events Had on just history Same thing with music Same thing with music Same thing with music Same thing with music Listen So we going into the
Starting point is 00:59:27 J.D. Puff shit And Everybody's arguing We don't get to that We are Niggas don't They wasn't outside So they don't know
Starting point is 00:59:38 How the songs hit They have no emotional Attachment to the songs Man we saw that At the Josh shit Like just people Was writing stuff off because they didn't know how it hit. You just wasn't there for it. That's really what it is.
Starting point is 00:59:52 You were not there. So, I think personally, for a lot of this stuff, if you wasn't there for it, just be a spectator. Just watch it. But you can have an opinion based on how you feel. You can have an opinion but still have it as from the place of, I wasn't there for this. I'm just observing. They cracking our muffin from the south,
Starting point is 01:00:13 saying that we always show New York bias. Which y'all are. I'm glad they cracked y'all muffins. I'm glad they cracked y'all muffins too. Y'all pissing me off. Why? About which one? They saying that we show too much
Starting point is 01:00:26 New York bias we're from New York because I know but we supposedly are yeah but the problem is a lot of
Starting point is 01:00:34 from New York people can't seem to think New York is everything they do it's one thing it being New York
Starting point is 01:00:41 bias is another thing just completely having your eyes shut to anything outside New York but I don't think we're biased alright are we recording
Starting point is 01:00:59 we are I think I'm the only media guy that does this too I might be the only media guy that does this too I might be the only media guy that listens to this shit and comes back and says you know what dog y'all had a point
Starting point is 01:01:15 who else does that? I don't want to be a narcissist I don't listen to nobody so I don't listen to anything sorry got it I'm with this shit I don't listen to anything. Sorry. Listen to no podcast and none of that shit. Got it. I'm with this shit. I believe y'all, but you other podcasters, I want you to know that when you say it, I know you're lying.
Starting point is 01:01:35 That is a blatant lie that needs to stop in podcasting. I don't listen to other podcasts. Y'all do. I see y'all. I can tell. That's it. Look at y'all. Unquiver your balls, man.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Nigga, we good. I don't want to hear y'all balls quivering up in there. Man, we good. You don't hear nothing. Who you talking to? I don't know who you talking to. You're not talking to us. You're talking to the camera, too. You can hear balls.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Smell dick. What's wrong with you, dog? You got the best senses. You just inserted two words that I didn't say. When I said that. You just said I can hear your balls. What that had to do with smelling the D word the last part
Starting point is 01:02:06 you said I could smell your dick some people didn't hear the last part so that's something that stuck with you about me
Starting point is 01:02:15 of all the things that could stick with you about me you might have some great senses yo you boy it's wrong this guy
Starting point is 01:02:22 I gotta watch this more this is dangerous man nah what are you apologizing about I mean what are you Ishmore Ishmore What is wrong with this guy I gotta watch Ishmore This guy This is dangerous man This guy Nah What are you apologizing about I mean what are you
Starting point is 01:02:29 Retracting I'm not retracting Okay I am apologizing Listen It's our job To check up on the culture Or at least mine
Starting point is 01:02:38 So it's only right that The culture checks up on me sometimes Okay I heard what you said out there guys i read it all i read it see but i thought i communicated that but that's where i fail at sometimes i think i say things that i won't be saying i thought i said yo i can't never say nothing bad about jermaine dupree but i guess legend super legend yeah but I guess listening back and the Atlanta people was like, yo, dog. Shut it up.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Sick of you New York dudes. We don't view whole puff in that same regard that y'all. Now, I mean, we don't want to hear all of that. I'm like, all right, all right, all right. I hear you. My bad. And Jermaine Dupri has never been nothing but
Starting point is 01:03:27 that dude to me so that point should not be misconstrued and then shortly after that you get to if somebody is to say something about Jermaine Dupri it's puff it ain't me, ain't us ain't y'all
Starting point is 01:03:42 he worked his way out of that some people have worked their way out of podcasters having the right to have opinions about them and i think jermaine dupree is one of those people again this is like a heavyweight alien match and that's why i like verses and i'm a fan and i'm passionate so i gotta do it but we're gonna play this clip from JD pay for whoa whoa whoa in the south down come on let me say this to y'all everybody be clear you can stop the music you can't stop the music stop the music let him hear him I just want to make sure everybody understands this I am in the songwriters hall of fame right i am in the songwriters hall of fame come on puff daddy's not in the songwriters hall of fame steve stout and the track masters are not in the
Starting point is 01:04:36 hall of fame leads us to the next one um the only other person two two people, three that I know that's from this era of what we do, that's in the Songwriters Hall of Fame. By the way, the only other person in the city of Atlanta that's in the Songwriters Hall of Fame is my college park brother, Dallas Austin. Amen. Right? So it's only four of us. Me, Dallas Austin, Jay--z and Missy Ellie come on Thank you, Greg. It comes Listen what I'm trying to tell you I am in the song writers Hall of Fame
Starting point is 01:05:16 So I shouldn't have to play nothing you guys y'all should have to hear his music. I shouldn't have to play nothing I am in a seat that Puff Daddy can't pay for. Hello? You have to write songs. And as far as I'm concerned. Talk that talk. As far as I'm concerned. I don't know if he'll ever get in that club.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Atlanta, y'all. Talking real greasy on them Marmbee Records. I'm platinum a million times. Check the credits. J.B. is a fucking S.E.C. Deadline. We ain't going to get enough. Overappreciation right now.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Somehow spin this all into overappreciation. S. Carter. Ghost Rider. He sound like he put his hand on his hip when he said that. And for the right price. Oh, ghost writer. He sounded like he put his hand on his hip when he said that. And for the right price. Oh, that was disrespectful. Made sure to sit all out on looking for him. That was a different.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Don't tell me that, and then I'll go check my own credits. That was a different. All right, come on. We can't get the New York appreciation off JD. No. That's their point. That's their point. And what he says speaks volumes.
Starting point is 01:06:21 It does. JD's a super legend. And so again, we argued on the way over here, Corey and I, and I said that parameters have to be set. Okay. So Puff sang All These Artists Are Mine. Uh-huh. Whether I wrote a song, whether I touched a button, whether I pushed anything, this
Starting point is 01:06:44 is my catalog. Right? And so what some people are saying and this was Ja said this to Fat Joe fam you didn't produce that record
Starting point is 01:06:52 nor did you write it. And Fat Joe said well our executive produced it. Uh huh. And I loved it. And I loved the tribute to Pun.
Starting point is 01:07:02 So I don't give a fuck what Ja was saying. Did it some more. Yeah like I don't fuck what Ja was saying. Did it some more. Yeah, like I don't care what Ja was saying. For the record, I was against that. Ice was against it. But I'm saying it's Pun. I don't give a fuck what happens.
Starting point is 01:07:12 They could have put on two more Pun songs, right? Cool, because of the circumstances. Right. It's Pun, passed away. He's one of the greatest of all time. Give that man his flowers. He's on Terror Squad. Give him his flowers.
Starting point is 01:07:25 No doubt. Now, I look at that differently if Pong was alive. I look at that differently because this is a Fat Joe, Ja Rule versus. Right? You can't bring your, you know what I mean? I don't know. Maybe you can't. See, and that's why I don't like the matchup of JD and Puff as much as the internet loves the matchup.
Starting point is 01:07:45 It's because, to me, Puff is an executive. And that's my point. And that's what I'm saying to Corey. I said, yo, if Puff didn't have any stake in some of these records outside of an executive stake, he shouldn't be able to play them. I mean, he owns the record. He can play it. I know. So that's where the versus changes. You get what I'm saying? That's where the versus changes. I don't think owns the record. He can play it. I know. So that's where the versus changes.
Starting point is 01:08:05 You get what I'm saying? That's where the versus changes. I don't think it has to. I think that he should go against another similar exec type. Babyface played songs that he wrote, he produced, he performed in. If that's the case, he can say, y'all could go get anything off LaFace's catalog and play it. Whether I had something to do with it or not.
Starting point is 01:08:27 L.A. Reid might be a good matchup. You get what I'm saying? I can go get anything from LaFace and play it because it's LaFace. He didn't do that. L.A. Reid, generationally, I wouldn't do that. You get what I'm saying, though? No, I'm saying so. He's a good matchup for somebody.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Baby Faces. Baby Faces could have said, yo, I'm on LaFace. I own LaFace. I could go get anything from that whole entire catalog and play it. I don't want us to spend time arguing my new points. Puff is going to play records that he executive produced. Exactly. Of course.
Starting point is 01:08:57 How we feel about that, that may be something different. It's going to affect my scoring for sure. I don't even think it's happening. But that is Jermaine Dupri shining a light on the one area that he knows for sure he has puff beat, which is producing. And writing.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Yeah. And writing. You get what I'm saying? And that's his right. He should be able to shine the light there. I actually hit the buttons and played the keys and wrote the hook. This is my melody that I thought of
Starting point is 01:09:26 in my head. Not Chucky Thompson. Not D-Dot. This is my shit. I sat in the studio for six hours with an artist and we put our heads together and created this. I'd rather see J.D. and Trackmasters. To me, that is a much more fitting matchup.
Starting point is 01:09:42 For me, beggars can't be choosy. If they decide that whatever they give me with any of these titans is going to be one of my favorite nights in music history. Definitely watching. We can try to get some tickets. I probably won't even score. I'd just be like, I'm watching it as a fan. I don't care about who wins this.
Starting point is 01:09:57 I win. Okay, so in today's climate, I'll give you, let's play it out a little bit. I'll give you Jermaine dupri actually writing and producing in today's era of music your actual talent versus my ability to make anything look like actual talent which one is more valuable today today interesting question right no no no the latter today is to make it look like something. The latter. Today. Absolutely. And I would argue not even just today. No, no. Because back in the day, talent mattered more. Yes and no.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Talent mattered more. In the 70s, talent probably could win you a versus. Yeah. Talent. In the 70s, talent. Y'all all had to be soul singers. Y'all all had to have the funny top hat James Brown looking something. Y'all all had to.
Starting point is 01:10:42 It wasn't too much diverting from the- I just watched the Motown thing, which was not the one that I thought it was that you talked about before. Where'd you watch yours? Hulu, which is, I think, the one that you watched. Okay. It came out in 2019, but there was one that had came out in the early 2000s or whatever, so I wasn't sure which one was which.
Starting point is 01:10:57 But Barry Gordy, he wasn't necessarily writing everything. He was an exec. He was an executive. No, we talking about talent versus. But that's my point. Is that in the history of music, in the history of entertainment, having someone that knew how to make it look fly was just as valuable as a talent. But you still had to have talented people, though.
Starting point is 01:11:13 He was very talented, too. No, but back in the day, his artists were talented. Yeah, he got talented artists. Nowadays, you can get talentless artists and dress them up and doctor them up the right way, put the right records in front of them and make them superstars. Y'all have to stop talking about me, Chuck. I want to hear y'all. Sometimes, but also not.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Sometimes we look at people while they're coming out and it's something new and different and say that's not talent when in 10 years we'll look back and be like, oh no, he was super talented. We didn't appreciate it for what it was. Or we just weren't ready for it. And talent always still rises to the top.
Starting point is 01:11:48 So, yes, there is examples of people who had no business having a record and they had a record that worked. But in general, as a general rule, the most successful people are also very talented. So let's not. But the most talented aren't always successful. That's true, too. That's always been the case, too.
Starting point is 01:12:06 But you said talent rises to the top in sports, maybe. And in music. The people that sell the most records right now, you're going to say Kanye is not extremely talented? You're going to say Drake is not extremely talented? You're going to say Kendrick is not extremely talented? No, I'm talking about all the people that sell all the records in the fucking world are the most talented people making music.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Let me just interject because, again, I don't want us to waste time arguing my new points. You're right, Ish. That's not true. Parks is right because the artists are the billboards. So what he's saying is the people that are selling all the records, that speaks to the talent of them and the team.
Starting point is 01:12:41 It goes down. The people that's getting the best looks they probably got the best publicists the best carpet person the best social media person the best producer the best engineer like the best of the best is here you can't even get the best beat pack from the best when you're not the best like so the best is the best y'all both right here so let's let's move on from that okay but what are we moving on to from there? That's my thing. You got to be careful where you shine the light, right?
Starting point is 01:13:09 Puff, for me, this is not New York bias, Atlanta, is easily the best showman in hip hop, hands down. Hands down. Best, all that party promoter shit, whatever his lineage, how he came up, that dancing party, he is the best at that that's what i think and and those strip club lights make some strippers look better when you have that ability so when the let's get it beat comes on y'all might not respond to that
Starting point is 01:13:42 the way that Harlem started Harlem shaking but when Puff hears and that beat drops what he's going to do at the actual versus versus Jermaine's actual talent and skill of being able to compose the best song ever made that's going to be a clash to see. Atlanta's right.
Starting point is 01:14:02 That shouldn't be dismissed. But Atlanta's right. I mean Atlanta be dismissed. But Atlanta's right. I mean, Atlanta's wrong. It's not my New York bias that has me picking Puff. I have seen the Puff records work in too many sectors of the world for this to soar. I'm not that ignorant. Like, I love music. Y'all just seen me rocking to the Spanish song.
Starting point is 01:14:18 I didn't know one word in it. I just like music. So, no. Mo Money, his big records are going to work everywhere. So, don't dismiss Puff the same way you're asking us not to dismiss JD. That's all. You can't dismiss either of them.
Starting point is 01:14:31 No, Titans, Legends. But when you look and one is dismissive of the other, that says something. So don't call it New York bias because that was Bow Wow that fucking put an Instagram post up saying, oh no, we got to get my guy right.
Starting point is 01:14:47 That was T.I. that put a post up that said, hey, from now on, don't let them two get on Insta Live without me being present. That was Atlanta people that said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That was a quick Insta Live of a split screen with bad Wi-Fi. And Atlanta people said, no, no, no, no, no, we ain't letting you lose. As you fucking should. As you should. But I just hate when they say that.
Starting point is 01:15:15 I can't even talk about Puff because they just say I'm biased with everything. Puff is Puff. Puff has 30 years of... Bad Boy is Bad Boy. Yeah. You cannot take it out of music history if you tried. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Right? Yeah. I don't think anybody on planet Earth with ears could object to that. Right. What I think, though, is JD is cemented in hip-hop history as well. Of course. In music history as well. Of course.
Starting point is 01:15:44 And you got to treat him as such. Of course.. Of course. And you got to treat him as such. That was my thing. You got to treat him as such. I ain't like the Lil' Bro-ing. Yeah. And JD allowed the Lil' Bro-ing. I mean, but if you start to fight, if you start to fight, if you start to fight with JD, I'm looking for you.
Starting point is 01:16:01 I'm looking for you. I'm looking for you. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. You saw the tweet. We talked about it. When you said at the Versus. He was there at the Versus. Yeah. Tell Puff I'm looking for him. You called me out you. He was there at the Versus. Tell Puff I'm looking for him.
Starting point is 01:16:08 He did that. See, that's my new advice. Puff is a personality. Puff is a personality. He's loud. He's boisterous. He's comical. He's demonstrative.
Starting point is 01:16:23 You know that beer had hands. You seen him fight? You been watching the beers fight for the last 30 years. You like, that beer's on here. And you just went over there with your broomstick. And started poking. And poking them around. I feel like Atlanta would respect that, too.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Like, they know. Like, as a Knicks fan, I knew what it was when Reggie came to the building. Oh, brother. Spike, sit your dumb ass down. Yeah, chill. Don't piss them off. Just let them cook. Let's get this shit off.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Get 30. You got to have that mutual respect. Don't make them get 47 and a win. You got to have that mutual respect for your opponent, man. And I don't know. I don't like seeing Puff do it, but I like seeing Puff do it. I don't like seeing him do it to JD. He son JD.
Starting point is 01:17:09 I don't like seeing him do it to JD. I ain't really like that. I seen Atlanta people that I know personally. They was mad at JD. They probably was mad at JD. They was mad at JD. Like, yo, I don't believe you just let that happen, dog. Like, no, we got to talk.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Like, niggas was upset. You got us looking bad out here. Now, Ish asked the question, where would this take place at? That's important. No, it ain't, because it won't be Atlanta. It better not be New York either.
Starting point is 01:17:34 It won't be New York. It won't be Miami. But then that brought us to another point. That's advantage puff. Ish says no. 100% advantage puff. Got to go to LA then.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Advantage puff. Advantage puff. Advantage puff. What major city can you have this in? And those are the major majors. Augustine. Chicago. Say it Augustine.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Some of the surrounding. We're going to do it in Charlotte. We're going to do it in Charlotte. They're going to do it in Charlotte. We're going to do it in Charlotte. Good man. Fuck it. They're going to fuck us up. Again, where it is is important. I didn't want to leave that. What else is around Atlanta? Don't get it fucked up.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Puff got a house in Atlanta, and he used to be based in Atlanta for a period of time as well. I will not sit here. Yes, that's true. Atlanta is Jermaine Dupree's, and we're going to leave that alone. Jermaine Dupree owns Atlanta, nigga's true. Atlanta is Jermaine Dupree's, and we're going to leave that alone. Jermaine Dupree owns Atlanta, nigga. So this welcome to Atlanta sign used to be so, so defs. Welcome to Atlanta. Jermaine Dupree usherset is going to give Puff a migraine.
Starting point is 01:18:35 I know that. I know. I know Puff got usher records, too. No. But Jermaine Dupree, if y'all want to play that executive producer game with confessions, go ahead. Yeah. Confessions could go ahead. Yeah. Confessions could get like seven joints.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Throwback could come on, I ain't going to be mad. Confessions could come on, I ain't going to be mad. Bad girl could come on, I ain't going to be mad. Keep going. There's more. There's more. Keep going. Hey, pull up that Confessions track list.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Let's have some fun. Oh, shit, Monica. Yeah. There's a lot. There's a lot. There's a lot. There's a lot Man It's a lot It's a lot It's a lot It's a lot Personally for me
Starting point is 01:19:09 And I know this goes against The Versus format I don't think 20 records Is enough No they gotta go to 40 With certain people You can't do 20s At least 30
Starting point is 01:19:17 Or 30 30 At least 30 30s farm 40s Cause that's too fast They gotta Pay the venue to stay longer.
Starting point is 01:19:27 Get them union fees. Pay for the whole entourages to come in. Listen, if we just watch Kanye West sell out these stadiums in city to city, whatever major city he did in, two or three. Yeah. Atlanta, Chicago. They might need to. No, they're not going to do that.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Puff and J do too busy. But we need a big venue for this. You do. You definitely need 10,000 at the minimum. Maybe you do one in Atlanta, 20, and do one in New York, 20. That's hard. Not bad at that.
Starting point is 01:19:58 That's hard. Not bad at that. That's beautiful. Yo, Swiss, Swiss. Swiss. That's hard. Swiss, do the right thing. Come on. I'll pound it up with you. Come on, give me Swiss. Swiss. That's hard, dude. I got to give you that one.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Do the right thing. Come on. I'll pound it up with you. Come on, give me one. I'll beg for a pound. Do that shit at MetLife. Take that shit to Mercedes Benz in Atlanta. Hey, I remember the Welcome to Atlanta remix video.
Starting point is 01:20:20 It could look like that. Yeah, it could. I thought that was the hardest thing ever When that came out That was hard And Denny You're going to have to Stand in front of Bone Crusher He has to
Starting point is 01:20:29 I know it sounds funny Bone Crusher is a tough out In the one hit wonder versus I told y'all Yeah Actually give me See that's more of an Entertaining conversation for me
Starting point is 01:20:39 Who beats Bone Crusher In the one hit wonder versus That's a tough one That is Because it's so mean too Bruh That's a mean You onhit wonder versus. That's a tough one. Because it's so mean, too. Bruh. That's a mean... Universal record. That's a mean one-half. It's got all of the things. Universal record.
Starting point is 01:20:52 It's hard and it's got a melody. Bone Crusher. Another one. I went to Melba's one day for brunch just trying to eat some shit. Looked to the right. Like, dang, he look like Bone Crusher. Looked to the right again. I said, holy shit, that's Bone Crusher. That Bone Crusher eating like some vegan eggs or whatever the hell.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Vegan eggs. He changed his whole life around. Vegan eggs. Came up to me with mad polite. Hey, Joe, good to see you, man. How's everything? How you been? I was like, man, you know how many bouncers I seen get fucked up to your music?
Starting point is 01:21:23 I said, look at Bone Crusher being able to speak more proper than me. You got to be careful. You got the hardest record in the world. Listen, I had to stand him. I tried to get records moving when Bone Crusher was moving. Let me tell you. Bro. You couldn't do it.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Yeah, it comes on. You couldn't do it. That was his club. You didn't get a record at 130 whatever time. And then went and got the New York remix. Oh, my goodness. You definitely did. All right, Young Jock, Meet Me in the Trap is going down.
Starting point is 01:21:49 How about that? That's beatable. That's a puff record. That loses to, I'm talking about Bone Crusher versus, I'm trying to. Oh, you said the White Wonders? That's easy for Bone Crusher? Very easy. Very easy.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Very easy for Bone Crusher. What? Damn, Young Bloods is not their only hit. No. They got a lean flow. They got a few. They got a few. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:10 And that set is going to come on. I had to deal with that set, too. Oh. No. Crazy as hell. What? What'd you tell me? Out of your mind.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Youngblood. You're going to hit some numbers. Oh, no. That's coming on. JD versus. That's coming on. Listen, man. I want to see it.
Starting point is 01:22:25 20 in New York, 20 in Atlanta. I like that. We can't just have 20 records from these two goats. That's hard. We need to see it. That's the idea right there. Do it. You make your money two places.
Starting point is 01:22:35 I'm going to both. Be clear. I'm going to both. I'm going to both. I'm going to both. Yeah, that's happening. I don't care. What nights?
Starting point is 01:22:43 Sorry, Pod. Sorry, Pod. Ain't no Pod that week. What nights? Sorry, pod. Sorry, pod. Ain't no pod that week. Oh, let me tell you right now, buddy. Hey, the second that they announce this. Deuces. Pod off. Don't say, yo, Joe, you ain't tell us.
Starting point is 01:22:56 We need a warning. No, no, we telling you. Fam, check this out. No. No. No, I'm off. Sick day. How many sick days we get, yo? Ice, I'm off. Sick day. How many sick days do we get, yo?
Starting point is 01:23:07 Ice. Don't start. Ice. Word. Ice. We got disability and all that? Yeah. Five sick days a week, right?
Starting point is 01:23:16 I only look for y'all. Y'all don't get five sick days a week. Tell me you don't. You good. I got to give you that one. Yeah. All right. That's funny, son.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Yeah, that's funny. That was good. You can be sick Monday, Wednesday, Thursday. Sick on the weekend. Saturday. Sunday. Sunday. Get the whole weekend sick.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Mad sickness then. Take a little Tussin. Get you some C-Moss. Yeah, yeah. Get it off. Get it off. All right. What else we got to get to? That's funny. All right. Oh, Yeah, yeah, get it off. Get it off. All right, what else we got to get to?
Starting point is 01:23:45 That's funny. All right. Oh, no, no, no, no. Don't you know no good. Yo, y'all need me, man. Y'all need me out here. I ain't going to hold you. Who else would let y'all know that Jodeci is running from Drew Hill?
Starting point is 01:24:00 Aside from Drew Hill. Who else would point out that coincidentally, of course, a week or two weeks after Devontae Swing shows up and says, I'm back, Drew Hill reunited and said, we back too, dog. And we looking for smoke. No, no, I got to find the clip.
Starting point is 01:24:24 I got it. I got it, hold up Joe, stay with the clip I'm fine, man, because I be home I love being right I love it They ready for the smoke Here we go, right, oh, it's trying to be funny Hold up, here we go
Starting point is 01:24:39 Pretty much we're doing versus against anybody Oh, wait, no, no, give it to him again Pretty much we're doing versus against anybody. Oh, wait, no, no. Give it to him again. No, we're doing it. Pretty much we're doing versus against anybody. Anybody. Whoever won it. Whoever won it can get it. Whoever it is. Anybody.
Starting point is 01:24:51 Joe Odyssey. Boyz II Men. Anybody. I'll tell you what. How about maybe 112 and Jagged Edge could combine into one group. Then we might have a chance. But you got to sing for real. This is different. This is different. and Jagged Edge combined into one group, then you might have a chance with us. But you gotta sing for real.
Starting point is 01:25:07 It's just different. Yeah. It's just different. Damn. If you ain't singing, get some work. So anybody can get it. Ain't no ringers. Anybody can get it.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Listen, y'all know our numbers. We love all y'all. We love 112 112 Jagged Edge But if the music cut off We gon' keep singing Get some work Alright ladies and gentlemen I don't need to hear camaraderie from you guys
Starting point is 01:25:35 Y'all just fucking met at a mall Some way the other day Got back together I don't need to hear chemistry and friendship I love all y'all Y'all get that together now But don't let that take away from the message. Look at you judging.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Classes. Yeah, you starting to bullshit already. Classes. Build Mika's house, man. Why you want to build Mika's house, honestly? For real. At least the garage. Like, yo, dog, look at this.
Starting point is 01:25:59 You don't think that'd be a great promo for the pod? Like, yo, I built Mika's house. That'd be just good for your name. Mika said he's trying to build a house that somebody's never seen. Well, it'll be a one-on-one. And you the man for the job. I know. So there's going to be a nice bag involved.
Starting point is 01:26:13 So I might be off the pod for a couple months. That's the problem with these podcasts. We'll continue. I know. I'm just saying. We know. Go build. Yeah, no. Build down. Yeah yo go take the gig yo listen i know i saw what the internet said y'all was internetting again y'all said yo i don't know none of them but cisco well of course that's true idiots
Starting point is 01:26:43 okay but if you're not an idiot Hey you know it wasn't Cisco That led this off now No Hey Cisco ain't lead this off y'all Don't do that to To Woody
Starting point is 01:26:55 You know all the great groups Gotta have a fat nigga This ain't Drew Hill That led this off Go ahead get your shit off Uh oh Uh oh we gotta go to church now Uh-oh
Starting point is 01:27:08 We gotta go to church now Don't do that They might as well go ahead and wave their hands from side to side Now we out here now So you had to be outside Or actually using your penis when this song came out To know how it worked Because if you was using your dick Back then you was in the girl who she played this song to let you know she was in the church.
Starting point is 01:27:30 You know how like the New Age girls did with Music Soul Child's 143? That was their church song? I mean, Love. They played that and felt like they went to church. That's what some of the older young ladies did with this one. And I'm letting it rock to the hook. And I'm letting it rock to the hook. Yes, come on. And I'm letting it rock to the hook.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Oh, Sisqo got mad. Somebody else got the lead. Let's go, Sisqo. Oh. Oh, man. Sisqo said, don't ever give somebody else the lead on my record okay he came in singing the lines around the corner outside of shadows let Let's go, y'all. Free drinks till 12. Devontae.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Jodeci. That record right there, though. See, and this is my problem with Ice. With Ice? Drew Hill just did what Kendrick be trying to do. Yo, any group could get the smoke. Man, you talking to Jodeci. You talking to Jodeci. You talking to Jodeci. And you know they talking to Jodeci
Starting point is 01:28:49 because they tried to make the list longer. But then they said boys to men and shut up. They left it. Anybody. It could be boys to men. I mean, I mean,
Starting point is 01:28:59 112 and Jagged Edge could team up. It's what I meant to say. Y'all better leave one year wherever you're at. You better. You better. Because if he get mad and come out here and go get Sean and them, listen, man, chill out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:13 Chill out. Chill out. I think boys to men, they're going to beat you with a Christmas album. But listen, Drew Hill, my sleeper of the R&B groups, and I'm with Cisco. Jodeci might be running from the smoke. Get it done. Y'all gave me Jagged Edge in 12 or 11.
Starting point is 01:29:31 One of them. Y'all gave me one of them shits. And I still didn't get Slim So Fly featuring Jadakiss out of that duel. It was 11. Whoever it was, they gave that to me. They gave me some of it. Y'all gave me Tory Lanez and French. Look, that wasn't even Twits and Timberland.
Starting point is 01:29:48 I'm just talking shit now. But they gave it to me. Nigga French featured his head off. As he should, though. What else? If it's one thing, he got some features now. Go ahead and play with him. He gonna feature on something.
Starting point is 01:30:01 That feature bag ain't to be slept on. Listen, I want to see all these shit. That's it. Me too. That's it. I would love slept on Listen I wanna see all these shit That's it Me too That's it They I would love Love love to see this
Starting point is 01:30:09 Like Joe Joe What Yeah Joe is losing that one Yes they are They are They are losing it
Starting point is 01:30:16 Don't even Any guy think on it hard No no no Do that Don't see Don't be disrespectful I'm not being disrespectful You are being disrespectful
Starting point is 01:30:23 I'm not Cause Joe to see could play KC and and JoJo joints and Tupac joints. Cool. It's good. But it ain't enough. I don't have them beating Drew Hill, but you're going to watch your tone. I don't know. I don't like how you're talking.
Starting point is 01:30:38 It ain't enough. I don't know. Ish, you told me money ain't a thing was going to beat who shot you. You did say that. I did. We got to tell the people Some of the stuff You just said And I was rolling with Ish
Starting point is 01:30:49 Until he said that I'm like I think that y'all think Who shot you Resonates outside of the Tri-state area Better than it does I lived down south
Starting point is 01:30:59 In the 90s Them niggas wasn't Who shot you in Now Hitmataz Listen Hitmataz is gonna Hitmataz is a point Hitmataz is a point In the 90s, them niggas wasn't who shot you in. Now, hypnotize. I told you where I was at when you shot your drop. I was in North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Hypnotize is a point. Juicy is a point. More money, more problems. The Benjamins. Who shot you? Y'all niggas going too far. I didn't know nobody said who shot you is a guaranteed point. Corey did say who shot you is a point.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Well, he was wrong, but who shot you can beat Money in the Thing. Parks, where do you stand on that one? Who shot you? Especially when Puff is doing his corn. I like Money in the Thing, but Ain't a Thing. Parks, what do you stand on that one? Who shot shit? Especially when Puff I like Money Ain't a Thing but it's not that. Okay. Okay. That was at Money
Starting point is 01:31:31 you know why it's just partial Money Ain't a Thing was out during it's just peak drug dealing years. When money was not a thing. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:31:39 and that was a thing. But money's still ain't a thing. That was a thing. Nah, you had the Ferrari, the Jaguar. I think you had a Jag back then, right? I ain't switched no lanes.
Starting point is 01:31:46 The fall off, man. Shit your ass, I know. I'm a bum. How you get from the Jag to that truck? To the Ford. To that motherfucker. Regular Ford. That nigga suffered the consequences from the drug drought.
Starting point is 01:31:56 They took the drugs off the street. That nigga, they started building. Picked up a hammer and some nails. With these other bricks over here. I'm agreeing with some of these people. Like you said before, it's 10 joints that Biggie can play that's a point. No, you can't.
Starting point is 01:32:11 You can't play 10 Biggie songs that's a point. I just disagree. Maybe not. But they're strong contenders. Strong four or five. I ain't saying that Puff should play Gimme the Loot against anything Jermaine Dupri. Don't be silly. But if we just get to the records, Iermaine Dupri. Don't be silly. Right. But if we just get to the records,
Starting point is 01:32:28 I think there's a few. Of course there are. I don't know if money ain't a thing. Beats, I love the dough. Yeah, it do. Yo, it's your dough mind. Yes, it does. Maybe it do.
Starting point is 01:32:39 No, it does. Maybe that's New York bias. It does. No, that's definitely. That is a lot of New York bias There's people in our South That don't even know What I love to do is Yo put all the cameras on me
Starting point is 01:32:50 Oh you can't Yo There's people in the South That don't even know What I love to do is Yo I'm wrong Oh okay
Starting point is 01:32:59 Alright So There you go So what Why y'all think Because I talk this much That I have to be right I'm
Starting point is 01:33:06 No No We don't think that We think you think that I think that I'm gonna own My New York bias And y'all won't use it
Starting point is 01:33:17 As an insult Or a slight Or an indictment Against my character Nah As long as you own it You good Money ain't a thing
Starting point is 01:33:22 It's a New York record No it's not Yeah it is It's bigger than New York City I you good. Money Ain't a Thing is a New York record. No, it's not. Yeah, it is. It's bigger than New York City. I get what you're saying, though. It's still a New York record. It's a New York record. That's our New York record. See, and that's what they say.
Starting point is 01:33:32 It's a New York record. That's a New York record. It's a Hope song. It's a both song. Ish was dealing drugs in Atlanta when that song came out. You're calling Money Ain't a Thing. Hey, yo, New Yorkers are crazy. Yo, ain't Future from New York? It was on a JDR. I think Future's from New York, too. I don't care you're calling money anything actually these both are crazy
Starting point is 01:33:46 ain't Future from New York it was on JDR I think Future's from New York too yeah it was yeah 1472 I'm about to just troll this nigga said yo yo nah well you said
Starting point is 01:33:54 nah Young Thug was born in Brooklyn East Coast put Migos on for an hour you lost they wanted to fuck you up rightfully so and Nelly and Nelly
Starting point is 01:34:02 nah but the Migos one was the worst I have never heard it take that bad this nigga said New York dropped the Migos and Nelly. And Nelly. No, but the Migos one was the worst. I have never heard it take that bad. This nigga said New York dropped the Migos. And Nelly. Look at his face. Look at his face. And?
Starting point is 01:34:19 I'm listening. No, that's it. I'm so cool with being that person. That's why podcasting needs me. Who else would say that? Listen to that. Nobody because this guy sins. Did New York break Wayne?
Starting point is 01:34:31 You said that too. They didn't. What's break mean? They didn't break Wayne. They did not break Wayne. No, they didn't break Wayne. Were they monumental in the breaking of Wayne? Wayne had hits when he was 14 years old.
Starting point is 01:34:46 All right, here's the thing. Y'all telling me that New York's opinion of the Migos was not monumental in their upbringing? Lie to my face, Atlanta and Lennox Mall. No, no, no. What the fuck did you tell? Oh, please. The light-skinned nigga getting on Versace is what did that. Had nothing to do with New York, Joe.
Starting point is 01:35:04 That's what did it. Yes, Migos was making records. When Drake jumped on Versace is what did that. Had nothing to do with New York, Joe. That's what did it. Yes, Migos was making records. When Drake jumped on Versace, it was over. Nothing to do with New York. Sorry. It's a New York by the way, Drake, you're saying. This is Toronto by a show. So that's what you're saying?
Starting point is 01:35:16 Canada and they came back down. No. I know that I sound stupid to most people. I get it. I get it. I'm cool with sounding stupid to most people. Bring it to me because I don't get it. I get it. I'm cool with sounding stupid to most people. Bring it to me, because I don't get that. I can understand.
Starting point is 01:35:26 But the crux of my argument lies in Atlanta's resentment towards New York and this attitude, which is why I understand it. Because my understanding is, yes, Ice, you're right. When Drake,
Starting point is 01:35:38 we might have been on the rooftop together in Edgewater, the crib. Roy was definitely there when that dropped. And Drake dropped in the crib. Roy was definitely there when that dropped and Drake dropped in the morning. It was a secret EP and that shit dropped
Starting point is 01:35:48 and we played that thing a hundred times. And you know what it made New York do? Take a deeper look at the sound that was already dominant in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:35:59 That was already winning. When you talk to people that found Migos mixtapes early on because y'all think I'm stupid. When you talk about all that shit, M mixtapes early on, because y'all think I'm stupid, when you talk about all that shit, Migos was running Atlanta, which is why Atlanta say, nah, we did that.
Starting point is 01:36:12 Y'all did that there. Right. That's true. But when we get outside of there, there was a few years where New York's stamp had to matter. I agree. That Drake feature made New York. We didn't even pay no mind to the Cole feature on that project. Like, it was some shit on that project, right?
Starting point is 01:36:29 To your point, when Versace dropped, the New York cosign or the New York stamp didn't mean as much at that moment. The Wayne thing, yes. That's not true. Yo, wait, wait, wait. Let me ask a question real quick. The Drake feature, did that come before or after Fight Night? I don't know. Somebody look it up.
Starting point is 01:36:47 Somebody look it up and tell me. Yo, New York still considered that shit mumble rap. New York still considered that shit mumble rap. New York was not accepting of the Migos like that. Yeah, that's not me trying to say New York takes credit. No. But do I think the New York stamp had like a lot of impact at one point yeah that came before i was in sin city when future came up here trying to work records stop it stop it stop it
Starting point is 01:37:14 stop stop don't talk to me about this because i'm gonna get real new real music geeky i seen y'all niggas go to starlets's with no jewelry. Stop playing with me. Ask them. Don't take my word. Ask them niggas. There's a wall of it up in Starlet's. It is. It is.
Starting point is 01:37:34 Stop. I watch these niggas do it. You still want to win in New York. You have to win in New York. You have to. Then don't act like you have no idea where that attitude comes from. From New Yorkers. Don't act like it's not. Don't act like it don't stem from somewhere.
Starting point is 01:37:49 It's not just out the fucking clear blue sky. But to say that. Come on, stop. New Yorkers are responsible for this? Y'all tell that shit to somebody down there that don't know, dog. But you can't get to a certain level of stardom without acceptance here. After a certain point, you could. Wait, no. Up to a point, you were able to. But now it might. I mean, you couldn't. And now it might. Up to a point, of stardom without acceptance here. After a certain point, you could. Wait, no.
Starting point is 01:38:05 Up to a point, you were able to. But now it might... And now it might... Up to a point, you could not. But now it might be reversed. I don't know nobody that... Now it's... Now it's...
Starting point is 01:38:14 Now it's reversed. Niggas don't care about winning New York now. Not now. That's a large fire Drake fall too. Fucking Drake. And Wayne. Young Money did that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Young Money did that. Yes. Young Money did that. Young Money did that. I'm mad at them for that. They should have did that. That was fucked up. There was artists that was popping in the South, but you didn't go national until you got New York over. Yo, but I think Young Money did.
Starting point is 01:38:40 He's been going on an L.A. for 30 years. Here's a hot take. I think Young Money did that from New York resentment. The same resentment that Atlanta's hot take. I think young money did that from New York resentment. The same resentment that Atlanta is talking about. I think young money did that to New York because Drake is in Canada. His whole life looking at Aaliyah, looking at the New York call. Tom is Drake came out before the Drake remix came out before fight night.
Starting point is 01:39:00 Oh yeah. Just show. Okay. Oh, how long ago? A year. No, no, was it one was 13 one was 14
Starting point is 01:39:06 one was 14 but it was February June June to February listen I saw what Fight Night did to New York I don't know if Fight Night
Starting point is 01:39:13 does that to New York without that Drake record doing what it did for New Yorkers for New Yorkers for us understanding we didn't understand Rax on Rax on Rax
Starting point is 01:39:23 I'm sorry we didn't get it yo when Walk It Out happened we didn't get it we didn't get it we didn't understand Rax on Rax on Rax. I'm sorry. No, we didn't. We didn't get it. Yo, when Walk It Out happened, we didn't get it. We didn't get it. We didn't get it. It still wasn't there. Even that. They went and got Jim Jones. You were getting New Yorkers on your remixes.
Starting point is 01:39:36 Jermaine Dupri put New York people on Welcome to Atlanta's remix. Stop talking to me about this. He put LA. He put St. Louis. He put everybody on here, everybody. Because he's a genius and he should have. It ain't just a New York thing with that. You can't get that. I can get it. Go watch the video.
Starting point is 01:39:53 See, and that's where my New York bias comes in. Go watch the video and tell me what happened when it got to New York. Y'all can't take that away. You can't beat that ice. Stop it. Don't talk to me no more. Don't talk to me no more. Don't talk to me no more. Don't talk to me no more. If you wasn't there,
Starting point is 01:40:08 you don't remember the video, don't talk to me no more. Don't talk to me no more. With no permits. I know the video. I know the video. You can't do that. Shut up.
Starting point is 01:40:15 You can't do that. I know the video, but that matters to New York. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. You will not do that. L.A. don't give a fuck that puffed dick on the garden. Oh, yes, the fuck you do. No, no. You will not do that. LA don't give a fuck that puff danced on the garden. Oh, yes, the fuck you do.
Starting point is 01:40:27 That's true. You're right. Shit. Atlanta didn't give a fuck that puff danced on the garden. That's true. That's not true. It is true. We know what that means.
Starting point is 01:40:35 We know what that means. Yo, yo, okay, my memory is bad. Scream in. Somebody in Video Village, this will solve it for me. This will tell me if I'm right or wrong, and I'll admit it. Tell me what spot in the video Madison Square Garden comes up. When did that happen in the song? I need to know.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Because then I don't care. It's going to tell me what they was trying to do when he put his armor Look at this. This is it. This is it right here. I ain't going. I freestyle over this beat.
Starting point is 01:41:04 This tore shit up. You did? Hell yeah. You had to if you was a rapper at this point. Nah, this shit was dope. Yeah. They killed this. Classic right here.
Starting point is 01:41:18 Oh, this ain't the remix. Yeah, this is the original. Fuck it. Welcome to Atlanta. Oh my God. Did Ludacris play this? And his verses? Yes. Oh my God. Did Ludacris play this? And his verses? Yes.
Starting point is 01:41:26 Man. Man. Let me do it right. Gotta do this some justice. This ran through his tour of New York up. There's some of them Atlanta records touring New York up. Damn, it's one of them.
Starting point is 01:41:38 Yeah. Welcome to Atlanta. Jack and Hammers and Bogues. Back to the Mack and then Jack in the clothes. That'll lift us back in the fold. A knock on the door Who is it? I would happen to know
Starting point is 01:41:46 The one with the flow Who did it? It was me I suppose Screen man Then I asked you to pull up The remix video Oh this is the video Where's that?
Starting point is 01:41:55 What part? I don't know what I Don't talk to me no more Hey One minute into the remix video Which is four minutes And twenty three seconds It's puff self stop
Starting point is 01:42:07 this stop talking to me stop talking to me that's new york bias that's new york bias that's just some gangster shit that's all we know we appreciate that yeah yeah no he appreciated it who jd yes of course of course he did then stop but you're sitting here making it seem like this mattered more to them. Like, Atlanta didn't give a fuck about this. This was for us. We know what that means. We know what this means. You felt the impact of this particular segment.
Starting point is 01:42:36 Because you're from here. No, if you was outside and you wasn't from here, you felt it. And that's when I'm not going to let the internet, internet. Y'all do that revisionist history shit. I was there. I was right next to Jermaine Dupri in club bed
Starting point is 01:42:47 in New York when they just Oh Mike stop playing with me. New York. No next to Jermaine Dupri. Right but go do it. Go stand next to him in Atlanta. Next to Jermaine.
Starting point is 01:42:54 Go stand next to him in Atlanta. You might can't even stand next to him in Atlanta. No you can't. Not back there. But that don't change what I'm saying. I'm saying that
Starting point is 01:43:02 Atlanta's Atlanta's somebody from the Atlanta Mount Rushmore knew what New York, knew the place that New York needed to play in his rollout. That's all I'm saying. And I'm not,
Starting point is 01:43:13 I don't want to sound like I'm taking away from Jermaine Dupri, you know, I'm not, I'm just saying, y'all, y'all not going to run that dismissive New York shit on me. I drive by Sedgwick Ave too much.
Starting point is 01:43:23 Like, play, play with somebody else. Don't play with me. I know what parks did what. Stop telling me about what's going on. I know y'all running shit now. And it's reversed now.
Starting point is 01:43:33 Now these New York dudes is doing the same thing to y'all, and we respect it. So y'all had to respect it. I don't want to hear that shit. I don't. So when he did Nelly in part, that means nothing? Like, they shot the St. Louis part in an area, in a place that is important to St. Louis. They shot Snoop's LA verse in something that matters to LA.
Starting point is 01:43:53 What? Where Snoop's verse was at? On top of a- The donut? Yeah. That's a staple though. You can't compare the donut to Madison Square Garden. Yo, yo. You're missing what I'm saying. You're missing what I'm saying. Yo, you can't compare the donut to Madison Square Garden. I'm fam. Y'all, y'all.
Starting point is 01:44:05 You're missing what I'm saying. You're missing what I'm saying. Come on. Yo, you can't do this. Only Puff could do this. You can't get a permit to go up there. New York's not giving you that. VIP World Famous Records is a staple in LA.
Starting point is 01:44:17 I'm not disagreeing. We agree with you. It's Snoop. He can get up there. Puff can't get a permit from the city of new york to get go stand on madison square garden shoot a video he did it and said fuck y'all he don't get permits for his videos oh very dope don't it doesn't mean they don't equate it don't equate i could call up the landlord to the music store y'all want to shoot a video on top of your music store if you to call a mayor to get on top of the garden, yo.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Shoot a video. You're missing my point. No, I agreed with you. This is New York shit. We know how fly this is. You keep the donut. I'm not going to disrespect the donut or whatever you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:44:57 Those VIP records, not the donut. The VIP records. Cadillac records. Where does St. Louis shoot at? Yo, Ice, I'm done with you no I'm not I'm asking you a question by the archers
Starting point is 01:45:08 what the hell what that Ice talking about Cardinal Stadium in the arch these shit that's New York bias though y'all got it look
Starting point is 01:45:16 you can't just call these niggas and do this either yes you can if you Drake just took a mission to eat at the Dodger Stadium
Starting point is 01:45:23 for 10 grand you gonna get me in the beef with to dodge his thing you're gonna get me in the beef with the St. Lunatics you're gonna get me and I fuck with Murph and all listen
Starting point is 01:45:31 stop it Ice you're gonna get me in St. Lunatic for no reason you need it standing on top of the garden in New York City
Starting point is 01:45:39 is equivalent to I'm not saying equivalent what the fuck are you saying shut up no nigga y'all are New York biased that's what I'm saying I don't have that what the fuck are you saying? Shut up! No, nigga. Y'all are New York biased.
Starting point is 01:45:46 That's what I'm saying. I don't have that. Nah, yeah, you are. I agree with you. Yeah, you are. All right, stop this. Hold up. Hold up.
Starting point is 01:45:51 Hold up. Let me just say this. You're not my guy. Let me talk for a minute. Let me just say this. Go ahead, man. As a Knick fan, you know how the garden opens? Do you know what it says?
Starting point is 01:46:02 Just because you keep calling me New York biased. Let me tell you how the garden opens welcome to the most famous arena in the world madison squirt that's how it opens they don't even talk about the knicks it is the most famous arena in the world i'm agreeing with you and then they're standing on it hold on on. I got a joke. Very dope. I'm not taking nothing from that. I'm five-stepping out of this. Get out of that.
Starting point is 01:46:29 Thank God. I got five-stepping. Don't be arguing about donuts and Madison Square Garden. Because Ice just read comments and forget that he was outside. I don't read none of this shit. You wear glasses. You read as you do. You get in Lasix.
Starting point is 01:46:42 You are a reader. You can't wait to read again. It's true. Stop. You can't wait. Come on, Jewel. You're trying to find some shit to read. So I say my prayers every night.
Starting point is 01:46:55 See, I like that we're getting those passionate disputes. And now I can't go to Atlanta after whatever we just talked about. Hey, we going to New York. New York niggas in Atlanta. How do you not feel what I'm saying? That's Brooklyn now. Yeah. Yo, they going to kill you. They going to kill you.
Starting point is 01:47:11 All right. That's Brookhead. That's Brookhead. It's Brookhead. Look. I want to talk about something. I seen one of them niggas post. Yo, Atlanta, that's how you know they own shit.
Starting point is 01:47:23 They just tweeting and posting, Atlanta, that's how you know they own shit because they just tweeting and posting, yo, I'll kill you. Yo. Yo. They confirmed to say, yo, I don't play about mine. I will kill you. So, have a good day.
Starting point is 01:47:38 Stop. Yo, stop. Before you be dead. Period. No more shit. Period. What else you say? That's that on that. That's that be dead. Period. No more shit, period. What else you say? And that's that on that.
Starting point is 01:47:47 That's that on that. Yo, Ice told me that Murphy Lee dancing in front of the St. Louis thingamajig that I love. The Cardinals. That I love, but I don't never see black people over there looking at it. I've been to St. Louis, dog. Love St. Louis. And I'm a tourist. I run right over there. Let me see the little loopy thing. The arch. The loopy thing. The St. Louis, dog. Love St. Louis. And I'm a tourist. I run right over there.
Starting point is 01:48:05 Let me see the little loopy thing. The arch. The loopy thing. The arch is. Yeah, they going to fuck St. Louis. They really going to fuck you. No more sweetie pops for you. Every time I go there.
Starting point is 01:48:12 No more sweetie pops for you. Hey, St. Louis, let black people look at the thing, man. I seen that arch one time in my life. And it went up close. Hey, that shit is heavily. They got the horses and whips over there. All right. That ain't even Joe, snitch.
Starting point is 01:48:37 That's our new host. Somebody. Somebody new. The backpack. Welcoming. Oh, man. Yo backpack. Welcoming. Oh, man. Yo, Ice is crazy. That's how you know Ice got old chicks in St. Louis.
Starting point is 01:48:52 What? Like, if your wife is listening, it's easy to pinpoint where the old work is at. Nah, don't do that to St. Louis. Nah, don't do that. Don't do that to the Lou. I like Sweetie Pies, nigga. I know. I know you love Sweetie Pies. I love Sweetie Pies, nigga. I know. I know you love Sweetie
Starting point is 01:49:06 Pies. I love Sweetie Pies. Pies that sweet. Can't wait to go back for more, right? More Sweetie Pies. I love them too. What kind do you like? The skinny joint? How you like your Sweetie Pies? You ate that Sweetie Pie?
Starting point is 01:49:21 Rough ass beard all in somebody's Sweetie Pies. Oh, man. Yo, cut that dumb ass Drew Hill off and throw Cry For Me on. Damn. Cry For You.
Starting point is 01:49:36 Yeah. That's the record that go to that? No. This mops. This is a point. I don't give a fuck what Drew Hill pulls out.
Starting point is 01:49:45 It's nothing they can pull out. You're wrong. It's definitely something. I can name two records off Cisco's solo album. I can go with that. What you fucking talking about? Mic check 1212. YouTube, if you're listening.
Starting point is 01:50:03 I play way too much music. Yeah, I forgot that. Yeah, but it's a music vibe. This is one of my favorite R&B songs I've ever made. Right here, but you're wrong. It can be beat. It can be beat. It can definitely be beat.
Starting point is 01:50:16 Oh my God. Hold up, though. Let KC get his shit off. Shorty left him for no reason. Talk to him now. I'm going to tell you why this could be now. You know you're everything I need. God damn it, that's powerful. Can I tell you why this could be beat?
Starting point is 01:50:30 Can I tell you why real quick? This doesn't win. Nigga. You're wrong. You are bugging. You're wrong. You couldn't be more wrong. Yo, you niggas is new.
Starting point is 01:50:39 This wins easily, too. Watch your easy mind. I agree with you. I like Cry For You better. But this is an easy win for you. I'm going to tell you how they win.
Starting point is 01:50:54 Don't read no comments now. You might as well not read no comments during the verses when he do that. And see, wait, let me stop that. That ain't Cisco. Y'all gotta start
Starting point is 01:51:05 Putting respect On the rest of these dudes Nah these niggas was dope Yeah but the internet Is internetting Oh yeah yeah They internetting That's my common theme
Starting point is 01:51:13 For the day They don't know shit They was just born Yeah you're right They just They grew up with Androids and shit Fuck them niggas
Starting point is 01:51:20 Privileged ass Motherfuckers I just Look I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you Why this wins Niggas ain'tileged ass motherfuckers. I just cried. Look, I'm going to tell you why this wins. Niggas ain't never packed a lunchbox and went to school the long route. Did you hear? Put the book covers on they books.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Come on, man. Put the book covers on they books. Did you hear what Drew Hill said in the video? You got to sing these. That's how they're going to win. Oh, they're cheating. You ain't got to sing shit. You ain't got to sing a motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:51:43 I'm old. I'm going to play my record and dance. Shut up, Drew. Y'all don't call no shots, but listen, man. I left this rock to the hook and it will move on. Find some more things to unpack here.
Starting point is 01:51:58 Am I gonna get in trouble for that whips and horses at St. Louis joke? No. You ain't sound sure enough. You see, we need to see. All right, go on. Let's go. Oh, no, Ish.
Starting point is 01:52:13 Ish, trust me. I'm your R&B dude. Trust me, I'm telling you. He better not ever get to none of this. Nah, I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this because I have to fuck something. I'm not doing this. Yes, don't do that.
Starting point is 01:52:32 I'm not doing this. No way. Yeah, cut that off. No, sirree. Oh, my God. See, and that's the problem with messing with younger women. I don't do that no more, by the way. But how they don't know this?
Starting point is 01:52:44 With certain shit, come on. You got to respect it. You got to respect it. Oh, come on. It's not a versus shit? Come on. You got to respect it. You got to respect it. Oh, come on. It's not a versus cast. Come on. Let's get to it. What you got? What you got?
Starting point is 01:52:48 What you got? What you got? Fugees. Are you going to argue about this? Oh, go ahead. No. Argue about what? Give it to me.
Starting point is 01:52:52 This 500 greatest songs list? All right. We're back to being a music podcast. Listen to this. Yo, I got wild takes that i might say wrong but it's rooted in right okay that's all wrong anything you say about this is gonna be right i'm gonna tell you joe this list is terrible who is this rolling rolling magazine just wait rolling listen rolling stone published something I will allow it to work.
Starting point is 01:53:26 Right. I understand the scam. I understand the tricks for engagement and clicks and all of this BS. But I'll play along like I normally do. The scam is the scam, man. 500 greatest songs ever written. And Rolling Stone. Who I don't know how many stones they rolled.
Starting point is 01:53:49 It's been a while. It's been a while since the Stones rolled. That's what I'm saying. They were stoned out on this. They might have been rolling. Yeah. It was rolling in stone. Yeah, it was. They put out a list of the 500 greatest songs ever made.
Starting point is 01:54:04 My first question was, who the hell y'all put out a list of the 500 greatest songs ever made. My first question was, who the hell y'all to put out a list of 500 greatest songs ever made? I mean, they're one of the oldest music publications. They can get that. They have some stake in the music. And validity. Invalid. Not, I don't, yeah. Everybody must have quit.
Starting point is 01:54:19 Yeah. They must have let off. Who wrote this? Who put this? Oh, no, too many people. We don't get the name. Too many people put this together. So they did have like a boardroom meeting. put this oh no too many people we don't get the name too many people put this together
Starting point is 01:54:26 so they did have like a boardroom meeting I'm sure there was some arguments about this I skipped right and got to the first first ten naturally
Starting point is 01:54:33 I didn't read I don't know Ice just told me the first two I thought it was hysterical we gonna read this in real time leave your comments
Starting point is 01:54:40 let me know what y'all think cause y'all swear I be bugging but Rolling Stone is Bieber-ing. And there's no disrespect to any of the artists that we're about to- At all. Yeah, nothing to do with the artists. All disrespect to the people that came up with this list.
Starting point is 01:54:57 Correct. Indeed. Never these artists. Number one on- These are great songs. Number one on the list. Greatest song ever made Aretha Franklin
Starting point is 01:55:07 Respect Great song Credited to Otis Redding as the writer 1967 Great song Great song Great song It's not a top 10 song
Starting point is 01:55:17 Probably should be in the top 50 somewhere It's not number one Certainly not at number one Not top 10 It's not one Certainly not at one Or two or three or four or five. Or six, seven, eight, nine, or ten. No disrespect.
Starting point is 01:55:34 It's no disrespect to Aretha Franklin, fam. Look at the irony of disrespecting respect. That is funny. But, yo, we talking about the greatest songs ever. All right. Okay. That is funny. But, yo, we talking about the greatest songs ever. I'm with you. All right. Okay, okay. But that is important to me to make note that I don't know how many white people were in this room,
Starting point is 01:55:56 but that's a pretty safe pick for number one if you're a white person. It is. That's a very safe. No, I disagree. Respect from a reader. They are safer picks. That's safe. They are safer picks. What's the safer pick than respect?
Starting point is 01:56:04 That's saying they're leading with respect. We respect you, black people. Change. It's going to come. Nah, bro. That's safe. They are safer picks. What's the safer pick than respect? That's saying they're leading with respect. We respect you, black people. Change is going to come. Nah, bro. That's coming. Shortly after. Let's go to number two. Number two.
Starting point is 01:56:12 Public enemy, fight the power. Even safer? Now, now. Even safer? This is white people, white people. Chuck D. himself would tell you that this is egregious. Flavor Flav himself would tell you that this is- Would stop his cock.
Starting point is 01:56:27 It's true. It's true. I agree. It's true. I'm agreeing with you. And this is one of the songs that made me want to be who I am. I don't play about Chuck. Number two.
Starting point is 01:56:36 But this- Ever. White people, just call me. Call somebody. Call- Call- Bieber. Anybody.
Starting point is 01:56:43 Call Bieber. Okay, call Bieber. Call Bieber. The more songs, I only got to eight. I'm going to tell y'all now. It's fine. We're going to learn the rest together. But I'm just saying, hold on. The more songs I got up the list, the more it told me less number of black people were in the room.
Starting point is 01:56:58 Three, Sam Cooke, Change Gonna Come, 1964. Starting to see a theme. Bob Dylan. I knew y'all was going to get. 1964. Starting to see a theme. Bob Dylan. I knew y'all was going to get freaky, white people. I knew y'all was going to get freaky. That's not even Bob's best song.
Starting point is 01:57:14 The same can be said for the Aretha Franklin song. True. And the Public Enemy song. True. I don't think Fight the Power is the greatest song. It's the greatest song.
Starting point is 01:57:25 So, yeah. Bob Dylan, Like a Rolling Stone. Fam, what's number five? Let's go. Nirvana, Smells Like Teen Spirit. I'm personally not mad at that. I'm not mad at that. That's one of my favorite records of all time.
Starting point is 01:57:36 Shouldn't be a five. It shouldn't be a five. Shouldn't be a five. It is one of the greatest songs ever made. It's a top 20 song. Maybe top 15. I agree. Maybe even top 15. I agree. Maybe even top 12.
Starting point is 01:57:47 I could go with that. Maybe. I could go with that. If it's an all white room. But five? Let's keep going. Marvin Gaye, What's Going On at Six. White people, don't tell me that you think that great of that song and won't change the world.
Starting point is 01:57:58 Because now you're just smacking me around. The people in that boardroom know how to power to change the world. I don't know that. I don't know. to change the world. I don't know that. I don't know who that is. I ain't check. I ain't check. I didn't check. I didn't check.
Starting point is 01:58:10 Hey, yo, fam. It's freezing in here, dog. The Beatles, Strawberry Fields, Forever. Not even the best Beatles. 67. I've never heard of it.
Starting point is 01:58:18 That's at seven. Yo, I'm out. Yo, I'm out. I'm out. I'm done. At number eight, Missy Elliott. Get your freak on.
Starting point is 01:58:26 The pot is over. Bye. No, find me somebody that works at Rolling Stone. That's why I stopped that. I wanted y'all to get there with me. Fam. I need to get your freak on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:58:34 We're not just going to skip past eight. It's got to be a joke. Wait, we're not going to skip past eight. It's a joke. We're not skipping past. What's a joke? This list. Oh, oh.
Starting point is 01:58:43 Get your freak on is number eight. It's the eighth best song of all time. I love Missy Elliott. I love Missy Elliott. Bam, bam. I wouldn't care if I was married. I've got my freak on. I wasn't married to Missy Elliott. I would not pick this as the 10 best. Yeah, fam. Come on.
Starting point is 01:58:58 Come on, let's keep going. I want to go home. At nine, Fleetwood Mac, Dreams, 1977. At 10, Fleetwood Mac, Dreams, 1977. Yep. At 10, OutKast, Hey Ya. It's Hey Ya. Hey Ya.
Starting point is 01:59:13 Whatever it is, it's at the wrong number. It is. It is. Should Hey Ya be at number 10? Absolutely. Wrong episode to say that. Yeah, you got it. No, no, he can't say that.
Starting point is 01:59:21 Enough of that. Enough of that now. He can't say that. We love Atlanta. We want to go back. Too much great food, great women, great restaurants. I'm going back. And we sell out every show now Atlanta we love Atlanta we want to go back too much great food great women great restaurants I'm going back
Starting point is 01:59:27 and we sell out every show we do out there gotta go back now the Beach Boys God Only Knows is that the Beach Boys best song?
Starting point is 01:59:36 no it's a good song though but not top 11 number 12 Stevie Wonder Superstition I vote move it up move it up
Starting point is 01:59:44 I vote move it up I vote move it up you can't put Superstition I vote move it up I vote move it up I vote move it up You can't put Superstition Under Missy Elliott And no Or Hey Ya
Starting point is 01:59:53 Or Hey Ya In the top 10 Missy songs of all time Superstition is higher Than Get Your Freak On Somehow There's no list In which
Starting point is 02:00:04 It's all said in the top 10 Missy songs. Superstition will still be higher. Rolling Stone is my old Molly's connect. That's not Molly here. I've been on Molly. Molly don't do this. This is the regular ecstasy.
Starting point is 02:00:20 At 13, the Rolling Stones give me shelter. I'm going to stay out of white people's business. Keep going. But, there's some other shit here. Yo, what the fuck? At 13, the Rolling Stones, give me shelter. I'm going to stay out of white people's business. Keep going. But they got two in the top 15. The Kinks,
Starting point is 02:00:31 Waterloo, Sunset. I don't even know what that was. I'm staying out of white people's business. Keep going. The Beatles, I want to hold your hand. Come on, fam.
Starting point is 02:00:37 No, I think I want to hold your hand. Don't say nothing. You better not. Don't say shit. Just keep going number 16 crazy in love
Starting point is 02:00:48 is number 16 crazy in love number 16 2003 that's not even Beyonce's 17 wait 17 is Queen
Starting point is 02:00:56 Bohemian Rhapsody come on turn it off are you kidding me turn the podcast over are you wait see Joe this is when you yell
Starting point is 02:01:04 and throw shit have y'all ever heard why I have to convince the white people where this song should be The podcast is over. Are you... Wait. See, Joe, this is when you yell and throw shit. I'm with you now. Have y'all ever heard why I have to convince the white people where this song should be? Look at the team. That's crazy. Bohemian Rhapsody is better than all the songs they've named. All of them. If they said Bohemian Rhapsody was number one, two, or three, I wouldn't argue with it.
Starting point is 02:01:20 Hell no. You couldn't argue. You couldn't argue. I was waiting for that one. Yo. Yo. No, look, Bohemian Rhapsody. For the viewers who don't know, he just saw number 18,
Starting point is 02:01:35 and it was Purple Rain. And he's the prince's nephew. So, yo, fam. That's not true. Listen, stop, stop, stop. I'm too big on mental health to do that right now. Clearly, the room was dyslexic. Well, no, if they're dyslexic, that makes it 81.
Starting point is 02:01:50 Yo, not even. They thought that they was putting Bohemian Rhapsody at one and Purple Rain at two. They thought the eight was a- You can't convince- Yeah. The eight was the period after the one and they fucked it up. They thought it was the eight. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:03 The eight was, yo, there's an 8% chance this shouldn't be number one. Somebody got this wrong. John Lennon, imagine, is at number 19. That's one, two, and three. They had it wrong. But hey, y'all.
Starting point is 02:02:12 Exactly. But hey, y'all. No, no. No, no, no. That is one, two, and three. That's where the list starts. That's one, two, and three. Yeah, they fucked up.
Starting point is 02:02:18 That's what it was. Robin dancing on my own. 2010. Who? Who? What? Yo, somebody play this song. Find this song. I want to hear what they do. I don't. I actually don't want to hear it. I do. I want to hear what they do. Now play this song. Find this song. I want to hear what they're saying.
Starting point is 02:02:25 I actually don't want to hear it. I do. I want to hear it. Now, somebody, I got to hear it. I got to hear it. Keep going. Keep going. Somebody find that. We'll keep doing this. Billie Holiday, Strange Fruit at 21. Yeah, they started the list at 17. That's nice. Yeah, because I got it. Will you play it? Yeah, go. Yeah, please. I don't think you want to. Just a little bit. Just a little bit.
Starting point is 02:02:41 I just want to hear what they're saying. You might know it. I don't. I don't. Turn it off't Turn it off Turn it off. This is not allowed replayed this house Somebody said you got a new friend. Yo, keep going. Now keep going. Now we might be missing something. Sorry. Does she love you better than I can? What is this song?
Starting point is 02:03:13 I'm a Caucasian man, and I have never heard this song in my entire life. Turn it off, because I'm going to be mad if they send me some sample right shit that we clearance. I'm going to be mad if they call and say, yo, that was my jam you was playing, yo. Take that out your shit. Yo, I didn't want to play it. I didn't want to play your shit, dog.
Starting point is 02:03:32 Your shit shouldn't be on this list. Oh, my God. The Ronettes, Be My Baby. I'm not even mad at this. Never heard of it. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. Go back.
Starting point is 02:03:39 Unless there's another one. You'd heard that song. Yeah, you know Be My Baby. David Bowie, Hero. Great song. I don't know. Yo, I think they started the list. They did. 17 was where heard that song. Yeah, you know Beatle. David Bowie, Hero. Great song. I don't know. Yo, I think they started the list. They did.
Starting point is 02:03:47 17 was where the list started. Yeah. 100%. Day in the Life. That's the good Beatle song. That's the one that's supposed to be there. Look. They just made him a couple.
Starting point is 02:03:56 Come on. Kanye West at 25 with Pusha T. Pusha T and this is Runaway. That's my shit. I can't afford it. I love this song. Sam, that's not a top song. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:04:09 I'm not saying. I just said that's my shit. Yo, I said I was only reading 10. I'm cool. No, let's get to 30. No, no, no. Let's get to 30. Let's get to 30.
Starting point is 02:04:17 Let's get to 30. Joni Mitchell, A Case of You. That's a bop. It's all right. That's a bop. Bruce Springsteen, Born to Run. Born in the USA would be higher than Born to Run. I was about to say, I never heard Born to Run.
Starting point is 02:04:26 I know Born in the USA. No, they meant USA. They just like... Oh, they got the U right. It ran away? Put it in the wrong place. Oh, man. Once in a Lifetime is a bop.
Starting point is 02:04:36 Talking Heads, Once in a Lifetime, 1980. I'm not mad at you, Thang B. You won't get a word out of me about this one. I'm not arguing. You won't get a word out of me about this one. I'm not arguing. You won't get a word. I'm sorry, Ish. I'm shutting up. That's my bias.
Starting point is 02:04:48 I'm not mad at G-Thing being on this list. Number 29 of all time? No, I'm not arguing it. No. You're not sure. 29. G-Thing is one of the greatest rap songs ever made. I stand by it.
Starting point is 02:04:57 I stand by it. Yeah. All right, so let me ask you this. I'm just shooting now. If G-Thing is 29, where's the message? In all time songs? Come on, come on, come on. Where is it?
Starting point is 02:05:12 I don't know. You answer. I don't know. It should be higher. The message should be higher. Higher than G-Think? Probably. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:05:20 No, you said it like I was saying. I don't need to knock the message to big up G-Think. No, I'm just saying They both are two of the greatest rap songs That ever made But I'm just not gonna argue G-Thing being on the greatest
Starting point is 02:05:31 500 Music list Yeah yeah yeah I'm not I'll argue this I love Royals But then the next song is I Can't Get No Satisfaction
Starting point is 02:05:39 By Rolling Stones I'm done I'm finished In no planet is Royals better than I Can't Get No Satisfaction. It is when Royals sent the bag over. It is when everybody is 21. It is when Royals are in the room.
Starting point is 02:05:54 Yo, what y'all think about that joint we put out a few years ago? She got an album coming out right now. Or maybe it's out. Now I got to see 32. Come on, keep going. 32 is a good, I mean, this should be much higher. I don't want to read no more. That's the end.
Starting point is 02:06:06 That's the end. I'm done. They put Big Juicy at 32. But Get Your Freak on was 8. And Hey Y'all was 10. Rolling Stone, do me a favor. Don't ever do this again. Never again.
Starting point is 02:06:17 Ever. Never again. Don't ever write a review. Hey, we won't meddle in... Just cancel your home magazine. We won't meddle in y'all's little business... In y'all's business. Y'all's. And y'all don't meddle in y'all's business and y'all don't meddle in ours
Starting point is 02:06:28 us do the list or consult with call Rob Markman call somebody somebody else gotta come in here and help that was atrocious they should actually
Starting point is 02:06:37 call complex no don't call them cause then you're gonna Lil Nas X gonna be before Juicy. What we got? All right, the Fugees are going back on tour for the 25th anniversary
Starting point is 02:06:54 of one of the greatest hip-hop albums ever made. The score, round of applause. I kind of figured once we heard from Lauren on Nas' album that we would see her. They doing a world tour. That's dope. They're huge worldwide. Nick's going to London, Nigeria, Ghana, Paris.
Starting point is 02:07:14 Yo, y'all want to do December 4th in Paris? No. I bet you if I said London, you'd say yes. No. I have to make it to London. Fuji show? No. I'm cool. That'll be the last thing
Starting point is 02:07:26 On your mind Some other la la la Will be on your mind It's like Nah boy Y'all said Let the co-host talk So I'ma let the co-host talk
Starting point is 02:07:37 Shit on the Fugees I'm not shitting on the Fugees Ish Say something I'm not Alright so then I'm not shitting on the Fugees I Ish. I'm not shitting on the Fugees. Oh. I'm not. All right, so then. I'm not shitting on the Fugees. I don't think,
Starting point is 02:07:49 I think if y'all buy tickets to this, y'all gonna be surprised. That's all. Surprised by what? It's gonna be a surprise. Surprise guest? Yeah, nah,
Starting point is 02:07:57 it's gonna come down. Or lack of guest? Or lack of headliner? Shit, you're gonna be surprised. It'll be very entertaining. Stop being negative on us. Yeah, don't do that to, they It'll be very entertaining. Stop being negative on us. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:08:05 don't do that to, they from, they from Jersey. Jersey. That's Jersey. Yo, I had an epiphany the other day too.
Starting point is 02:08:13 Speaking of Jersey pride and just not shitting on people from New Jersey and giving people flowers and bigging them up. I do, somebody said
Starting point is 02:08:20 that Lifetime should do a Joe Budden biopic and they were serious. They think my life is interesting and then I said, if Lifetime should do a Joe Budden biopic. And they were serious. They think my life is interesting. And then I said, if Lifetime did it, they would cast me all wrong. But now I want to see it. I want to see it be played by Michael B. Jordan. Because I talk for a living.
Starting point is 02:08:36 And I don't think he talk enough for a living. And I look nothing like him. But he probably got some pecs I would have wanted to have at some point. Go ahead and make me look like that, at least for a movie if I'm gone. Y'all ain't got to stick to the script with me. Cast somebody ill. Who played Thor? What's my man's name?
Starting point is 02:08:56 Chris Helmsworth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want him to be you? No. See, they already think that's how it is. You want him to be you? No. See, they already think that's up.
Starting point is 02:09:11 That's who you want to be. I'm chilling, man. No, I want Michael B. Jordan to play me. He's from New Jersey. They can't afford him. What are you talking about? You're getting Bokeem Woodbine. He would do it all the time. No, he's a great actor. Wait, wait, wait. in Bokeem Woodbine. He would do it on... I'm not.
Starting point is 02:09:27 He's a great actor. Wait, wait, wait. Not Ishwood. Man making fun of Bokeem Woodbine. What the fuck does one have to do with a hot dog? I don't get it.
Starting point is 02:09:38 Oh, look at that side of the room. I don't get it, though. You can't do that. No, he said, your bum ass can't afford Michael B. Jordan. For God's sake. Joe, nigga just backed out for no reason.
Starting point is 02:09:49 Yo. They're going to tear you up. Nah, he whipped out. They're going to tear you up, bitch. Why can't I laugh at that? You can't laugh at that. Why? I'm not saying it now.
Starting point is 02:09:58 Bokin wouldn't buy it. I know. Oh, OK. All right. What's your point? Don't do that. That's like, stop. Stop, stop. That's like stop that's like wait
Starting point is 02:10:07 nah let me use the phone oh man what you calling Bokeem Woodburn please don't call Bokeem Woodburn nah let me
Starting point is 02:10:19 I'm chilling I don't want the legend man yeah I don't want I actually he's in the Wu-Tang show which I'm loving you watching that
Starting point is 02:10:24 I've been watching that? Yeah. You? It's dope. You should watch it. I'll watch it. It's dope. Yeah, I love it.
Starting point is 02:10:31 I'm really loving it. That last episode was a lot of shit that I've learned. I didn't know about that. All jokes aside. No one need to watch. It's some shit that just came on HBO called Level Playing Field. Seems serious. Who you calling, yo?
Starting point is 02:10:50 I'm going to see if he answer first. Yo. Yo, this is Joe Budden from the Joe Budden Podcast. May I speak to Omar Epps, please? What's good, bro? Omar, how you doing, man? I'm good, man. What's up with you? Nothing much. We got to get together soon, but that's not what I'm calling about right now.
Starting point is 02:11:07 Uh-oh. Here we go. Parks on my show is a white man. We were talking about actors that would play. I rock with Parks. Me too. Me too. That's my guy.
Starting point is 02:11:17 Thank you, Omar. Me too. Listen, we was talking about actors that could play me in my biopic for a lifetime. I said Mike would be Jordan. You've reached too far, dog. But then Park said that my movie wouldn't have the budget to afford him. So then he said Bokeem Woodbine should play me. Damn.
Starting point is 02:11:49 I mean, Bokeem is my guy. Wow. Damn, nah. But he doesn't look like him. But that's fine. But listen, let me just get this off. So right, so Park said that, and my other co-host-ish burst out in laughter. And I said, yo, you can do that to Bo Keem, Woodbine.
Starting point is 02:12:08 In my head, I'm like, he's played in too many hood classics and shit. No, Bo Keem, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying Bo Keem is dope. I'm just saying he doesn't visually look like you. If it was a real biopic, like, you know, that's like how everybody say if they ever make a biopic of the, what's the coach of the Steelers? They like, yo, you got to play that dude. Oh, Tomlin.
Starting point is 02:12:31 You do look like Tomlin. You do look like Tomlin. Nah, y'all are related. Because I'm sitting here running through my brain like this. Nah, you really him, though. Nah, he Tomlin. Nah, you really Mike Tomlin. You got Tomlin. You got Mike Tomlin.
Starting point is 02:12:41 I'm doubling, yo. I'm doubling. I got to stack up. Nah, that's funny. Yo, but listen listen but this is why I thought to call you cause as they talking all I can think about is what Bokeem Woodbine would think if he heard this
Starting point is 02:12:57 conversation which brings me to when you put that shit out remember that shit you put out that I was killing and you what was that movie where you was the stalker of somebody that shit out. Remember that shit you put out that I was killing? What? What was that movie where you was the stalker or somebody? You was the stalker.
Starting point is 02:13:11 What you talking about? The Netflix movie. And then I meet Omar Epps and I speak to him. He's like, yo, I love the pie, but that shit you did. That shit you said.
Starting point is 02:13:23 I heard that. I heard what you said I'm like no Yo man It's the same thing Every song ain't gonna be a hit It's the same The same thing
Starting point is 02:13:36 Man it's art Man it's all subjective Like you know what I mean That That shit was ringing off Everywhere around the world So When you called me
Starting point is 02:13:43 Fat Face Omar I was like That nigga remember the world. So when you call me Fat Face Omar, I was like, damn. That nigga remember the quote. No, no. He read me up. He served me up. Oh, man. You got to come fuck with us for the power shit you're doing.
Starting point is 02:13:55 We want to hear about it. Yo, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The Kaden shit is fire. You said what? Fam, I'm about to be a spoiler alert. Yeah, get chill. No, no, no. Please don't.
Starting point is 02:14:00 Please don't. Don't do it. Don't do it. I want to watch it. Oh, the show? Yeah. Kaden is dope, bro. Oh, it's fire, man. Yeah, it is. It's fire, man. Please don't. Please don't. Don't do it. Don't do it. I want to watch it. Oh, the show? Yeah. Oh, it's fire, man.
Starting point is 02:14:05 Yeah, it is. It's fire, man. I'm enjoying it. It seems like the people's enjoying it, so I'm appreciative of that. You know, just riding the wave, man. Setting up everything else, so you know. Well, I wish the wave would bring you over here to sit with us and talk about it at some point. This is us.
Starting point is 02:14:20 I would love that. This is us, too. I would love that. He's dope on this. With the ice in this, and parks, and you know, everybody else in attendance. You know what I mean? It's He's killing this is us, too. I would love that. He's dope on this is us. With the ice in this, and parks, and everybody else in attendance. You know what I mean? It's all love. That's beautiful, man.
Starting point is 02:14:29 You still in New York, right? Huh? You still in New York? Yeah, yeah. I'm still out here. All right. I'm your little man, man. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:14:36 He's great. He's great. Round of applause for my baby. He's doing real good. School. He's rocking. He's learning. Oh, he's in school now?
Starting point is 02:14:43 Yeah, no. He's going. Yeah. Miss that little dude, man. Yeah, man. He was like, yo, chill. I was like, nah, he's learning. Oh, he's in school now? Yeah, no, he's going. Yeah. Missed that little dude, man. Yeah, man. He was like, yo, chill. I was like, nah, he good. I got a son.
Starting point is 02:14:50 I know how it is. Yeah, yeah. See, I felt bad. I felt Omar came to my house on a Sunday when my son was in active mode. He's climbing on him. He's like, yo, dog. He ain't see juice. He ain't see juice.
Starting point is 02:15:04 Lex didn't see juice Like get off that man Let him breathe in here Yeah that's funny Yo we gotta do that again man Sunday brunch or something Absolutely Alright say less
Starting point is 02:15:12 Love O Alright y'all love Later man Later one And shout out to Bokeem Woodbine I didn't mean no disrespect Bokeem gonna fuck y'all up
Starting point is 02:15:18 I'm just saying These niggas be hearing us man Y'all gotta chill out We didn't say that I'm such a huge Omar Epps fan, man. And he was so humble and such a big fan of ours. And he was like, yeah, but that one episode.
Starting point is 02:15:30 I heard that shit you said. Fat, fat, fat face Omar. No, we went hard, though. Yo, that's true. Well, I did. Yeah. It was me. You called him fat face Omar, my nigga?
Starting point is 02:15:38 He gained some weight for the role. I know. And it was a funny role. That was funny. And at the time, there was seven movies about that. The talker next door. Yeah, that was funny, but I didn't want him to hear it. That's why you got to be careful about being funny on here.
Starting point is 02:15:56 Nah, that's dope. Back to the Fugees. Ice, you don't think that the Fugees should be doing a world tour. You also don't think they'll sell out. You think they'll need a lot of marketing. Didn't say any of that. I know. Not on mic.
Starting point is 02:16:06 I didn't say off mic. I just said this shit ain't. You said Lauren ain't going to show up. You said this shit ain't hidden. It's 2022 about to be. That's what I heard. You think she is? Of course I do.
Starting point is 02:16:16 Okay. Absolutely. She's going to show up for this. She's showing up. She's definitely showing up. It ain't but so many shows anyway. I hear, fam. I hear all of y'all.
Starting point is 02:16:23 She's going to give you two shows and then say that the moon was over in the wrong position and I'm not coming. Well, what if the moon was in the wrong position? I'm not disrespect, fam. This has happened. Dying to see how the
Starting point is 02:16:37 wife left Lauren splits conversation went. Dynamic, I don't care about this. The splits is when the dynamic. Nah, walk off. He gotta the splits is when the dynamic. Nah, Waclap can't take it. He gotta take a backseat to that. Gotta take a backseat to that.
Starting point is 02:16:51 That's Clefto. Yeah, I was getting what you're saying. That's Clefto. Do it without you. No, he can't. Please.
Starting point is 02:16:59 Huh? There's no Fugees without Lauryn Hill. There's no Fugees without Waclap. There's no Fugees without Waclap either There's no Fugees without Waclap either. She's more imperative than he. Says who? I don't know. Says Ish.
Starting point is 02:17:09 Not for nothing, the way concert bookings go. Ish, you got to chill out. Well, in this scenario, Lauryn's probably more important, so I don't want to have that argument. But to broaden it up, I don't know if she's more detrimental to Fugees than Waclap. I don't know that. And also, not for nothing, Clef has been touring the world successfully for the past fucking-
Starting point is 02:17:27 We're changing the story. I'm talking about- I'm talking about how the splits conversation would go. Me too. That's what we talking about. I'm talking about how the splits conversation would go. My market over here is X. My market over here is X.
Starting point is 02:17:36 My market over here is X. I get X. And they're going to come out because of my name on this. I mean, yes, you bring a crowd too, but I've been doing this. I have a market here. I can show it. Yeah. Keep going. He ran for president of Haiti name on this. I mean, yes, you bring a crowd too, but I've been doing this. I have a market here. I can show it. Yeah. Keep going.
Starting point is 02:17:47 He ran for president of Haiti, I think. I know. Keep going. Keep going to what? I don't have to. It's one class. Where you keep going is nobody's seen me poke my head out in the last 20 years. Don't matter.
Starting point is 02:17:57 No, my rarity commands a price. Don't matter. Yeah, but at the same, okay, now you want to keep going? I'm speaking for you. Okay, okay. I'm speaking for us. No, no, no, no, no okay I'm speaking from a No no no no I'm speaking from a position
Starting point is 02:18:06 Say that I've never been on tour Now If I'm him And you say that statement I also know the bullshit You've been doing every show And it's out there
Starting point is 02:18:13 So And people are hesitant To buy a ticket Because of you That is true I agree with that Thousand percent You are correct
Starting point is 02:18:19 There's no guarantee That you're not going to do that So nah I'm not Rolling with that I think I'm going to go to this show That's been on my It's been on my bucket list. They're going to be in DC.
Starting point is 02:18:28 I've seen Clef a couple times, and he puts on an amazing show. Amazing show. But I keep saying, like. I've seen them. Summer Jam headline. On my bucket list is to go to the older acts or the legacy acts shows. And they keep throwing it in my face, and I keep sitting home. I got to go.
Starting point is 02:18:45 I would like to go to one of these. We should go. We had so much fun as a group at the Versus. The 22nd. No, we had a ball at the Versus. We had a blast as a group. New York is the 22nd? Yes.
Starting point is 02:18:55 New York is the 22nd of September. That's today. New York is the 22nd of September. New York has question marks right there. Stop, stop, stop. New York has question marks on the tour. That's because they're working out in New York. Whatever you're talking about is not a part of this tour.
Starting point is 02:19:08 Okay, now, are you going to go to Elliott's other posts? I'm not. I thought I hired somebody to do that. There's another post he put up that says it's the 22nd of September. I'm going. That's tomorrow. I'm free. Alright. Alright, so New Jersey wouldn't let him do New York, and they're from New Jersey. The 22nd of September. I'm going. That's tomorrow. I'm free. All right. All right.
Starting point is 02:19:27 So New Jersey wouldn't let them do New York, and they're from New Jersey. It begins tomorrow in New York with a secret pop-up show. That's what that tells me. It tells me that when you do New York, they do shit like say, all right, you can't go within seven miles of. So they're from New Jersey, so they are going to pick New Jersey and just do New York early. They're going to bang that out, get that out the way.
Starting point is 02:19:48 So it's still not part of the tour, but I see what they're doing. I want to see this in Newark. November 21st in Newark. 22nd, I think. 22nd. Also, we getting really close to that Lights Out Tour festival.
Starting point is 02:20:03 That's October. October 22nd, I want to say. I know it sound like I work for them. I do not. I do not. I just know what's going on in there that night. Yeah. And I'll be there. You ain't got to show me this lineup. I don't need to see it. I got it written down in my bathroom wall.
Starting point is 02:20:18 Which night? You are doing both? Maybe. I'm free that Thursday the 21st and if I have fun enough, I'll go right back on a Friday for the different vibe. Different artist.
Starting point is 02:20:31 I wouldn't care if it's the same exact. I will be there. I've done that before. I might get a hotel in Brooklyn that night. That's what I'm saying because it's worth two days
Starting point is 02:20:39 because it's different artists. I've literally done the same artist, same opener, same tour three nights in a row. Yeah, I might do it. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:20:46 From Philly to Jersey to the Barclays Center. Y'all can't even go in your house and explain that to your girl. Who can't? Yo, y'all want to get a hotel in the city that's right, in the borough right next door. Just me. Just one that's so I can move around easier. No, right? That's off limits.
Starting point is 02:21:01 Come on, tell the truth. Tell the truth. Come on. Yeah, I'm not going to tell my girl. Of course you're not. It's so I can move around easier. That's off limits. Come on, tell the truth. Tell the truth. Come on. Yeah, I'm not going to tell my girl. Of course you're not. So I can move around easier. That's a shitty excuse. All right, well, a different reason.
Starting point is 02:21:09 I live 20 minutes from Brooklyn. I'll get us a hotel room in Brooklyn. I would like to go to a room. Yo, you talking all this cash money shit. I want you to remember it. That's all. All right, cool, cool, cool. If it get fuzzy, remind me then.
Starting point is 02:21:24 I will definitely. If you like that. I'm really him. I'm like that. Like what? That. I know what that means. I know you don't.
Starting point is 02:21:31 I know. I know you don't. I know you don't. You don't either. I know you don't. I know it more than you. Your mother. I know it more than you.
Starting point is 02:21:42 Yeah, you better laugh. Come on. Come on, what we got? We ain't got shit else. Come on, let's just tell on each other. Let's go on and do something. Let's throw ice in there, too. No, ice ain't doing shit.
Starting point is 02:21:51 That don't mean I can't make something up. Yes, it do. No, it don't. Not with this nigga. Yeah, you ain't got it. No, come on. What else is important? I think I'm kind of cool.
Starting point is 02:21:59 Yeah, we good. No, no, no, no, I'm not. Another comedian passed. Yeah. Another comedian passed. Another comedian passed. All right, y'all. We don't know how. We don't know any details. Not that it matters.
Starting point is 02:22:14 It don't. It's just been a lot of death. Anthony Johnson, actor from Friday. Anthony A.J. Johnson, actor and comedian best known for his performance as Ezell in Friday, has died. His representative told CNN Monday he was 55 years old. Beyond his memorable performance in the 1995 hit film Friday, Johnson also appeared in House Party, Menace to Society, Lethal Weapon 3, The Players Club, and BAPS. His television credits include Martin
Starting point is 02:22:45 and Malcolm and Eddie and put some respect on Blue in I Got the Hook Up man they always leave that out when they speak on him
Starting point is 02:22:54 he killed that he was in I Got the Hook Up that's right damn it look what black culture is so important look what we adding in hey
Starting point is 02:23:02 he was in I Got the Hook Up he was in I Got the Hookup. Rest in peace. Rest in peace to Anthony Johnson. Oh my God. He was survived by his wife Lex's three children and his two siblings. That's the part that always
Starting point is 02:23:17 gets me. Yeah, man. That's the part that always gets me. Rest in peace. Now I think that's everything. Indeed. Sleepers, sleepers, sleepers, sleepers, sleepers. Sleepers, why not?
Starting point is 02:23:43 There's a trend going on in R&B or at least with Ari Lennox that I'm noticing and have noticed for at least the past year okay Ari Lennox is the R&B feature
Starting point is 02:23:55 that you call when the song is about how wet vagina can get somehow she did that she did it on jasmine's album she did it on uh then she got another one i think with uh queen nija kalani one of them every time the song is about vagina being the greatest invention in the world ari Lennox pops up. I like that. I love that. Now, she has the voice for that.
Starting point is 02:24:29 So this is Vito, album in your phone right now, featuring Ari Lennox, and the song is called Juicy. I bought this off top. I already knew what time it was. You can't trick me. Look, when these drums come on, Something juicy is about to be spoken about I know what's going on It's Vito, baby
Starting point is 02:24:52 I'm just crushing on you When we play ain't no rules I'ma make it juicy for you Play ain't no rules I'ma make it juicy for you Put this pussy on rules I wanna see that other side, oh Can you ride it like it's 85? Open up, I see that pussy smile
Starting point is 02:25:26 Ooh, it's tight, I know it's been a while Hand full of that ass, girl, let's take it down You can tell the way that you walk, ain't no underwear Put it on my face, girl, I love the way you taste Glad that I got you right here I'm just crushing on you When we play ain't no rules I'ma make it juicy for you
Starting point is 02:25:57 Put this pussy on you Know it's on site, we don't gotta talk Ain't no leftovers, he ate it all Mouth with no teeth, got that locked jaw Sweet tooth snack, it's your favorite He ain't got no business fuckin' outside Baby, lean back, love me long time So boy, you better smile, eat an earful of this happy meal I'ma tear that on my ass so you know it's real
Starting point is 02:26:32 I'm just crushin' on you I'm just crushin' on you When we play, ain't no rules Play, play, play, play And blame me, blame me I'ma make it juicy for you And put this pussy on you Snowing up in no-me-wear Thuggin' on me, no hook there I don't know you, no-me-wear You're so juicy I'm just crushin' on you Crushin' on you
Starting point is 02:27:19 I'm just crushin' on you Oh, no, no And just pushing on you When we're paying the rules Can't play this when the masseuse come over This ain't on the masseuse playlist That gets you in trouble now That gets you in trouble Be careful out there now Go ahead and play your motherfucker
Starting point is 02:27:41 85 South Tootsie Roll Summit Don't play this Hey, Brand of Music, that's Vito Juicy Go ahead and play your motherfucking 85 South Tootsie Roll something. Don't play this. Hey, Brand of Music, that's Vito Juicy featuring Ari Lennox. Check it out. Album in your store. Album in your phones. Right this second.
Starting point is 02:28:01 Not for daddy. That really is. Like, every time you play it, I just be like, I'm ready. You got four years in this ish drop shit. Three years. Yeah, I was about to say, she going to be quick with it. Y'all heard this record in the strip club, and I didn't even realize, like, the sound was so bad, I didn't know what I was listening to. Okay. And I went back and listened to it. The sound was so bad, I didn't know what I was listening to. Okay. Then I went back and listened to it.
Starting point is 02:28:28 No, no, no, it's not your shit. It was like a release premiere or whatever that night in the club. But this record's hard, so this is Sugar Jay, Respectfully. Upside down, you're turning me. You're giving up. It feels so good. Round and round, you're turning me. Oh, Halloween home!
Starting point is 02:28:50 Yeah! They want that bounce back, right? Yeah, they do. Your little money ain't impressing me I'm a king, nigga, I say that respectfully Walk up in the building, let it check for me King is next to me without a check for me Now that's respectfully, respectfully, respectfully, respectfully
Starting point is 02:29:09 Get to a bag of through the week, I'm a hustler Respectfully Sugar J, I got an owner in five minutes Pull up in the foreign, they know it's not rented Style authentic, got the world shook Members club drip, now they on their own look A thousand each foot, neck in the arm Hundred plus in that picture you took
Starting point is 02:29:27 Got em all sick, all the world shit, niggas might drown tryna follow this drip Switch furs every winter, chick back to everything him hers Diamond dancer Chris Breezy with the footwork, she on google tryna figure out my net worth Fly shit in my DNA, outfit get more press than the NBA I done had more kicks than the MMA, jet to the war shows get there same day Get a little money and they pressin' me, I'm a king nigga, I say that respectfully Walk up in the building, let it check for me, kick it next to me without a check for me Now that's respectfully, respectfully, respectfully, respectfully Get to a bag or do the weak, come on, slow
Starting point is 02:30:06 Respectfully Like Big Say was all a dream Now we on top, respectfully keen Now we on top, respectfully keen Now we on top, respectfully keen Like Big Say was all a dream Now we on top, respectfully keen Now we on top, respectfully keen Now we on top, respectfully keen Cherry red bands and the top is open Bad chick with me and the top is open Took her to the beach, see the blue is so shit All pink silk, man, I smooth as lotion Hustler, you know it's my favorite slogan 24-7, the bank is open
Starting point is 02:30:38 John Madden put the play in motion LV bags in the racks is pokin' Your lil' money ain't impressin' me I'm a king, nigga, I say that respectfully I love it. It's the number one. Yeah, that was Sugar Jay, Respectfully. I like it. All right. Yeah, that was Sugar Jay respectfully. All right, I like it. Yeah, nice little bop to it. I was like, all right, this is, all right. All right, I'm going to play Lost His Way. This is God Fahim.
Starting point is 02:31:16 This is Pravy. And you're all true. And we can't. Oh, we chose as lost as we. And we can't. Oh, chose this lost way And we can't move, we chose this lost way Anybody can get it, can you lose it and get it back? And climb out of the shackles when the world has set its traps Snap out your own mind and view the facts They say life is 10% what happens to you, 90% how you react
Starting point is 02:31:42 Can you follow your heart, stand tall and never run? The average person doesn't even get past level one Some live their lives looking for a future that never comes What's the story gonna look like when it's said and done? What if there was somebody who once had the vision? Does that make him any better than the person that didn't? What if Buddy was on a path but he crashed first and lost his way?
Starting point is 02:32:06 Does that invalidate his past work? What really happens when creativity is sparked? I don't mean to sound like a queer shark Can you shine your own light when it gets dark? And face the music like a beatbox Rest in power, the bed's marked Don't be too desperate to get on cause resilience is necessary I'm up ready for war discipline like the military up
Starting point is 02:32:29 Strength in my core they wanna know if I'm temporary But my story will live on even after the cemeteries The only guarantee in life is death we all know that We all got goals but through your work you gotta show that You don't work you don't, no matter where you go at Nothin' in life is free, so catch me with a doe hat I took a stance and never sat down When it comes to rap, they know I wear the crown
Starting point is 02:32:54 Never back it down, cap and gown I graduated from the hard knocks Like G-Body, old Chevy, rims and hard tops Dive in a pool of sharks and get ate in an instant These ain't just rhymes, these are the words of a mystic I kick, flip, spit clips, I grind since an infant Don't push me cause I'm close to the edge and can't get tempted I'm gifted
Starting point is 02:33:16 He's lost his way Scott Fahim, Nicholas Craven, and Droog Ish, what you got for us? Can't move, we chose to stay I know I'm not supposed to fuck my ex I was tryna get to know you like fuck my ex Then I fuck my ex and I ain't sorry This hot sex still on my body I come back like I ain't left Act like it's still mine, but it still fuck my ex Girl, I fuckin' hate you But I still got your heart I see them niggas on your body
Starting point is 02:34:12 Try me, say you movin' on, no I can't take that Cause you said this, your pussy no take back I can't shake that Fuck whoever with you, that's mine You know if it's up, girl, I'm stuck I know I'm not supposed to fuck my ex I was tryna get to know you like fuck my ex Then I fuck my ex and I ain't sorry It's her section on my body I come back like I ain't left Act like it's still mine But it still fuck my ex Love you and I hate you That's why I let these other motherfuckers date you I put in my time, girl, I pay dues And I ain't let you play these games for free
Starting point is 02:34:55 Tell me what I'm missing To make you complete Girl, I fucking miss it When you do that shit for me But this fuck you pay me New chick fuckin' on me daily And she know about you When she fuckin' me, oh, it's about you Girl, you know this song is all about you I know I'm not supposed to fuck my ex I was tryna get to know you Like, fuck my ex, yeah Then I fuck my ex and I ain't sorry It's her section of my body I come back like I ain't left
Starting point is 02:35:32 Act like it's still mine But it's still fuck my ex Swear to God you be staying on that hot shit Toxic, tell me baby when you gonna stop it Like this, down for another bitch, dude Don't act like you don't wanna shine like this wrist, dude Could've put the stars in the roof and just go Fuck you in the car cause the pussy so gold
Starting point is 02:35:51 Guts from the backwood out the window Fuck off my phone I know I'm not supposed to fuck my ex I was tryna get to know you like fuck my ex Yeah, then I fuck my ex and I ain't sorry It's her sex still on my body I come back like I ain't left Act like it's still mine
Starting point is 02:36:14 But it's still fuck my ex It's FMX, Kevin Antonio, Devon Terrell, and Mike Classic Remo did the beat, Remo the hitmaker Shout out to all the guys the song involves a few people I like I like a lot congratulations to
Starting point is 02:36:30 Mike Classic and Remo yeah Mike man where you been at Mike it's good to hear you man and Kevin Antonio shout out to him too it's his song of course
Starting point is 02:36:37 yeah I like that song a lot that was dope and they brought up some really interesting man points that we'll never be able to talk about for real just cause you fuck your ex don't mean that is And they brought up some really interesting man points that we'll never be able to talk about. For real.
Starting point is 02:36:45 Just because you fuck your ex don't mean that it's not still fuck your ex. Like, fuck her, but yeah, I fuck her. I fuck her. And I enjoy it. But fuck her, though. But she got to leave right after. If one of y'all would learn how to touch my body better than my ex, then I wouldn't do it. My ex just know my body.
Starting point is 02:37:08 New bitches trying to figure it out. Forcing their hand places. No, man. Let's call off that whole thing. No? What? Yo, close this part. Greatest song ever made.
Starting point is 02:37:22 Let's end this music podcast the right way. Let's go then. What the right way Let's go then What you want It's a great song Baby, I got Greatest song ever made What you need Listen, there is no up and it's stuck without this
Starting point is 02:37:34 It starts at 17 There's no up and it's stuck without this It starts at 17 Just a little bit Hey, baby Just a little bit Just a little bit Just a little bit Yeah,. Just a little bit at home. You know it's crazy. Just a little bit at home.
Starting point is 02:37:45 Yeah, listen. We went to number 32. It wasn't no Michael Jackson from 1 to 32. That's crazy. Why are you reminding me of that? See, now I'm mad again. I forgot about that. Now I'm mad.
Starting point is 02:37:56 What if they would have had Drake in there? I'm going to look. That's a Patreon talk. Yeah, because I'm going to put a list on it. Let's talk on Patreon. I'm going to tell you all about yourself on Patreon. Just a little bit at home. Baby, because I want to put a list on it. Let's talk on Patreon. I'm going to tell y'all about yourself on Patreon. All right, we out of here, man. Great pod today.
Starting point is 02:38:18 It was. Great pod. A little all over the place, but I like that. I like a little scatterbrain every now and then. Those are my favorite pods. When they all over. Personally. Shout like that I like a little scatterbrain Every now and then Those my favorite pods When they all over Personally Shout out to Bokeem Woodbine man
Starting point is 02:38:29 I ain't mean no disrespect bro He cleared that up right Yeah we'll clear that up He made some of the Greatest movies ever I already hang out In some Astoria bars man Come on Bokeem
Starting point is 02:38:38 We love you man That was ish really That was ish Really didn't understand The power of all that Shit you did Listen we outta here Keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there That was ish, really didn't understand the power of all that shit you did. Listen, we out of here.
Starting point is 02:38:48 Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, I bid you adieu. Farewell. Hasta la vista. Adios. Arrivederci. So long.
Starting point is 02:38:54 Goodbye. Meet you at the next spot. We got to talk about that one day, too. Meet you at the next spot or get you fucking killed. Fucking exhausted. No. Going to bed. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass, so let's make this one last.
Starting point is 02:39:14 Okay. Spell it out. Why not? Nah, this is number one. Fuck it. Listen, Robin. I'm glad y'all didn't get the 39. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:39:26 What's 39? Outkast bombs over Baghdad. You're happy Atlanta, you got one. Sporty Odeon-policious. They got number 10. What was number 10? Hey, y'all. Hey, y'all.
Starting point is 02:39:42 I sleep with some Atlanta. I'm not even from Atlanta. I mean, sitting on the dock of the bay is 38. The first Michael Jackson record comes in at 44, which is what? Billie Jean. They're wrong. 45 is Kendrick Lamar. Rolling Stone. Y'all just keep rolling Stone.
Starting point is 02:39:59 Kendrick Lamar, all right. Not mad at that one. But not at that spot, but. Yeah, I'm talking about spots. Yeah, let's get out of here. No, you won't keep challenging the list.

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