The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 475 | "I Was Hacked"
Episode Date: September 29, 2021Joe removes all New York bias in this episode, showing love to Yo Gotti and highlighting his success at his record label and his recent investments outside of music (15:25). R. Kelly has been found gu...ilty in his ongoing legal issues, Joe celebrates a year of being independent as a podcaster and why it was necessary to take a new path (43:50). Also, Rihanna reveals her new music will sound completely different, New York hospitals firing healthcare workers for not being vaccinated (1:20:50), a recap of this past weekend's battle rap cards, 50 Cent deserving more recognition for his role at Starz (1:54:20) and, MORE! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Allen Stone - “Is This Love” Ice | PG RA - “Selfish” (Ft. 6LACK) Parks | Stove God Cooks - “That’s the Game”
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shoveling snow in Uggs
is kind of wild.
Listen,
they are the,
they work.
They block out the snow?
No.
I'm just saying.
Them shits must be drenched
by the time you get them
back inside.
Nah, you get the leather ones.
Oh, my bad.
I'm not hip to the Ugg.
Ugg quality differences.
Leather ones all purpose.
Are we recording?
Of course we are.
Oh, shit.
You be sneaking
hitting the button, man.
Yeah, I do.
Everybody know
I wear Uggs all the time.
That's one of the things I stole from women.
Uggs?
Wearing Uggs everywhere.
And Uggs, I guess, yeah.
Uggs.
Because at first we thought Uggs was for women.
But you got like masculine Uggs.
They're not women Uggs.
We didn't.
Personally, I didn't even know.
You got the big fuzzy boot joints?
You didn't even know that they made masculine Uggs.
Gotcha.
It was just you heard Uggs, you thought them.
I've never owned a pair
because I thought
they were women's shoes.
This is not an ad either.
Uggs, pay us.
Or at least send me
some shoes, man.
No, pay us.
I'll buy them
if I want more.
I made the Slaughterhouse tour
stop wherever we was.
It was freezing.
They had some Ugg slippers
in there
and I wore them
the rest of the tour.
Actually, that changed my life.
I was going to say that was the day that everything changed for you.
That day changed my entire life.
I stole Uggs from women.
The loofah.
I stole it from women.
Exfoliating properly. That's not nothing
I would have picked up on my own.
Yeah, yeah.
The little pink fuzz bubble? Yeah.
It looked fluffy and
It just didn't look masculine
Nah nah nah
What I'm gonna do with that
What y'all get the ones from the ocean
That look a little more masculine though
They're like
Kind of tan looking shits
Man my shit purple
My shit is purple alright
Got a nice lavender soap to go with it too
Yeah
Either the lavender
Or the cucumber melon.
Oh yeah.
You stole that
from women too?
I might have stolen
a lot from women
now that I think about it.
Now women have good soaps.
Good soaps,
good lotions,
all that.
Yeah.
You know women taught you
how to love on yourself
properly.
Yeah,
because dudes,
we ain't give a fuck
about none of that.
As long as we wash it,
all right,
we cool.
My girl put me
onto a nice body scrub.
Can't get enough of it.
Okay.
You drop the bath bomb in there yet?
Nah.
I don't bath.
Oh, you too tall for that.
Yeah, I don't fit in bathtubs.
Whole legs would be out.
Something's got to be out.
The whole shit ain't getting in there.
I never thought about that.
You can't take a bath.
Nah.
You probably can't.
Unless you're in like them nice hotels that got like the real deep, big shits.
So you're just standing up Your whole life
That's right
Bathing
That's right
Showering
Ain't no like a good bath man
You drop that Epsom salt in there
Yeah
I
Yeah
Soak
I'd be mad when I was
Apartment shopping
All I have is bathtubs
I'm like I can't even use it
You might as well just give me
A shower stall
And I'll have more space
To do some other shit with
See that's why I can't get money
For real for real
Because I would do like
Real creative shit In a house from the ground up.
I would make, I'd just put a bath in the living room.
Well, Thug had a pool in the living room,
like an actual pool in the middle of the living room.
Or just one of them nice little baths in the master bedroom,
just like right beside the bed,
like with a different platform with a water.
That would be beautiful with like a garden.
I might have even seen that recently somewhere,
but let me not get into my decorative bag.
Ish is not here to tell me how to build that.
Let's see.
Let's see.
Let's see.
Let's see.
Ish is away dealing with personal matters.
Indeed.
But we will hold him down.
We got him.
Somehow he's still here with us via text.
Yeah.
So if something is really, really important,
we'll find out what he thinks.
With that said, I'm stealing my R&B bag.
Let's go then.
You know what I mean?
We got rainy weather in New York.
It's fall in New York.
A lot of my favorite couples are breaking up They going through things
Couple of you niggas' girlfriends
Have been sending me weird texts on my phone
Mercury is retrograde
There's a lot going on out there
But we gon' talk about it
I believe in it
I believe in it now
Let's go now He don't treat you like he used to
Cause he got somebody else
Yeah, some of y'all out there singing along, what's good though?
Cause you're all by yourself
Good to be back, good to be back
I say that every week like I went somewhere for a long time
Don't you shed a tear, be strong and don't let this nightmare get to you
Cause some men gotta have two girls and that ain't cool
So I'm here for you, hurt you again
Never gonna hurt you again
No, no, no, no, no
Cause you're not afraid of me
He's been dreaming
He's never gonna hurt you again
He's never gonna hurt you again
All you gotta do is believe me
Mic check, one, two, one, two, mic check, one, two, one, two
Shout out to all other potters out there in the world
Shout out to all the ladies listening, all 37 of y'all
Shout out to all the rappers on the road getting money
Y'all popping up in a lot of places
I see you
And it go
Yeah
Big L
Rest in peace, Big L
Rest in peace, everybody
We lost this year
Once again, we start this off by celebrating life
Andre, we start this off by celebrating life.
Andre, we love you.
You should have known.
And then go I got my R&B playlist coming soon, I'm telling y'all
It's coming
I just gotta figure out the mechanics and how I want this to look
But it's coming, man
You should do volumes
That'll work better
Volumes? I was thinking like an ever-growing
Ever-growing list
Volume? Volume's better Volume, okay, I like it I was thinking like an ever-growing list.
Volume.
Volume's better. Volume.
Okay, I like it.
Let me stop talking about this on the air, huh?
Yeah, but I mean.
Is there a bag in that?
Huh?
Is there a bag in that?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, there's a bag in that.
Yes.
There's a bag.
I want a part of that.
There's a bag in everything nowadays.
No doubt.
Right?
I want a part of the playlist.
Sure.
Yeah.
There's a bag in everything nowadays. No doubt. I want a part of the playlist. Sure. Yeah. There's a bag.
What are the bags you don't want a part of?
There's a lot of them.
Really?
Shit ton of bags I want.
Yeah, there's a lot of bags.
I want nothing to do with.
There's only a couple that I do want a part of.
Something to do with, actually.
Okay.
And I've been fortunate to have that go that way most of my life.
Talk that shit.
Cloth talk.
Big cloth. Not yet. Apple watch. way most of my life so talk that cloth talk big cloth because in my heart i felt you should have
came and not yet apple watch
we gonna get this thing going hopefully y'all singing along out there that i got up to apologize
I'd love to apologize if you were gone When I woke up this morning
When I woke up this morning
When I woke up this morning
When I woke up this morning
When I woke up this morning
When I woke up this morning They got away. What if it was mad of them? They got away
Microphone check one two what is this 474 five five finally we getting through these things we there. Welcome to episode 475 of the Joe Budden Podcast.
I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host, Joe Budden, here with a few really
cool people.
Parks is here, and Ice is here.
That's it.
And the Video Village, of course.
And Video Village is back here.
The good gentleman at Video Village.
Round of applause for them over there.
Like our little podcast, Ray Chu and the crew.
They're too young back there.
They're too young back there.
Chill, Joe.
Chill.
They wasn't outside at all.
How y'all feeling?
How's everybody doing?
What's going on?
I'm great, man.
I'm great.
How was your weekend?
It was good.
How is what month are you in of marriage?
1.2? 1. No, 1. are you in of marriage? 1.2?
1.
No,
1.
One and a quarter.
Update us.
Yeah.
How's it going?
Update us.
It's fucking great,
How's the fucking?
Wife just got a good
job,
raise and all that shit.
Oh my God.
You know what I mean?
Life is fucking good.
Damn,
he got married
and she's making
more money.
Wow.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Wow.
You know what I mean?
Life is good.
That's awesome.
Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, how's everything with y'all? No, I'm not done with you. Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad. Come on. Wow. You know what I mean? Life is good. That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome.
How's everything with y'all?
No, I'm not done with you.
Oh, my bad.
My bad.
My bad.
Come on.
Keep them shooting.
Interactions in the house, anything is cool.
More in love, more connected.
Just to say, we were heavily in love before we got married.
You're really that dude.
You really are that dude.
That's him.
Even from the wedding, all of that, just now I'm chilling.
I'm cool.
I'm chilling. If you could take a bath, you would be that dude. Like, wow. You really don't know. That's him. Even from the wedding, all of that, just now I'm chilling. I'm cool. I'm chilling.
If you could take a bath, you would be that dude.
Like, wow.
You really don't know what you're missing.
Yeah, you're right.
If only you could bathe differently.
That's good.
I'm happy for you and Brim.
Ice, how about you?
I'm good now.
Like, I went through a funk.
I was in a funk for the last probably week.
Really?
What happened?
I have no idea.
Real talk.
Like, I've just been in a bad mood.
I've been spazzing, snapping on people, snapping at work, snapping on my girl.
Overworked?
No.
I don't know.
That's why when he said that Mercury retrograde shit, I said, I believe it now.
That's the only thing I can chalk it up to.
Because nothing's changed.
I've just been in a bad mood.
The only time that happens to me is when I'm doing too much.
And I feel like no one's helping me or something like that.
Which is frequently.
I have taken the time.
Well, I can't really say that.
I've tried to take the time to really sit my ass down as of late.
Now, even though I have been out, boy, I've really been trying to just.
Well, you were on a run.
You were going out like a 23-year-old for a minute there.
For real.
Yeah, but you know what?
I never view it like that.
I don't.
In New York, when you go out, it's different from going out in other places.
So every night when you hear me say I'm at a bar up the street or I'm at the hookah spot or I'm at the day brunch, yeah, to the rest of the country, that sounds like you out tearing it up.
But out here, no, that could put you in bed by 10 p.m. still.
Or not.
You could stay up till 4.
True.
See, I don't do that.
Me either.
See, no matter how wild the night is,
I'm not staying outside till 4 a.m.
I think.
Maybe that's some old dude shit.
No, after about 2 a.m., there's nothing good happening.
Yeah, what am I waiting for now?
I just want to be home. I've been out with you a couple of times, No, after about 2 a.m., there's nothing good happening. Yeah, what am I waiting for now? I just want to be home.
I've been out with you a couple of times, and it got about 2.30.
I'm like, dog, I just want to go home.
Yeah.
Like, fam, this is past my bedtime.
I don't care how much fun I'm having.
I need to be home by 3 o'clock.
After 2 a.m., that's when people start fighting for no reason.
People start drunkenly falling into you and spilling shit on you.
That's when you sleep with women that you had no business sleeping with.
That too.
All your mistakes happen.
Yeah.
And just why not be home in bed?
I have a new appreciation for that in my 40s.
I do.
Okay.
I got that too.
I'm not in my 40s.
So I know it looks like I've been out, but I kind of been home.
I kind of been in bed just catching up on rest, sleep,
trying to combat some of that stuff that Ice is talking about now, right?
Like when the seasons change, I am cognizant of what that can do to your mood.
Damn, maybe that's it.
The season change.
That is a thing.
Well, I believe it to be a thing.
I didn't fact check this.
It could definitely be a thing.
It doesn't happen to me in the fall.
If you're going from summer, bright, hot, outside, wind, less, a lot of activity, back to now, fall, school starting, kids gone.
Some people are dealing with having to send their kid that's been in the house their whole life away to college.
Yeah.
That's a struggle.
I'm talking to some of my parent friends that really enjoy their kids.
It's like, oh, fuck, what am I going to do with myself now?
I got to send my kid to college.
So it's that.
You're in the house.
You're gloomy. Everybody's that. You're in the house.
You're gloomy.
Everybody's work situation is not all the way together yet.
Who knows?
They cut off unemployment.
They cut off unemployment.
I went to the mall.
Let me tell you.
Empty.
Quiet.
Let me tell you.
It's different.
It looks different.
I'm not one to just assume that that's why it looks different.
But this was a weekday.
I don't remember too many weekdays.
I was going on the weekdays.
Y'all was packed.
Mall was packed.
Lines. They had nothing else to do.
Yeah, no, it's a little empty now.
It feels a little different.
And on top of that, like what you said, kids going back to school,
which could play into people's moods and shit, is traffic.
Yeah.
Like, I leave my crib at 7.30 in the morning. Bro, it used to take me eight minutes to get to work. 30 now. Yeah. Like, I leave my crib at 7.30 in the morning.
Bro, it used to take me eight minutes to get to work.
30 now?
Yeah, 30.
And I'm pissed by the time I walk.
Like, all of that just adds up.
Yeah.
Well, traffic is back.
It is, big time.
It's really back.
Really back.
The last few Sundays,
I've been trying to just make a quick run to the city
three or four miles away.
It's been taking, like like 40, 45 minutes.
Going to the Bottega store is not that important.
Oh, wait a minute.
Fashionista Joe back at it.
Listen, I'm seeing a lot of you rappers in Bottega now.
Out the blue.
Nah, that's not happening.
Stop it.
Stop it.
Stop it.
I'll let it slide with the Mary hat.
Stop it. Stop it. This is. I let it slide with the Amiri hat.
Stop it.
Stop it.
This is you?
I'm not saying that.
Because I'm not that self-centered and narcissistic, like they say.
But boy, am I seeing a lot of rappers in Bottega.
The same way it was Joe and the Amiri hats, Joe and the Greg Lauren,
all the shit that they laughed at me about.
And then it just magically popped up for the rest of the year.
Look at 2 Chainz.
Yo.
Look at 2 Chainz in Bottega shades, Bottega turtleneck, Bottega shorts, and the Bottega boots.
See, I don't know much about high-end fashion, so when I see you wearing it, I just assume that other people are probably wearing it too.
No. See, that's the opposite.
No and Joe, it's the opposite, though. Yeah. He don't do it. Like, that's one thing. He don't do that. I don't wearing it. I just assumed that other people were probably wearing it too. No. See, that's the opposite. Knowing Joe, it's the opposite, though.
Yeah.
He don't do it.
Like, that's one thing.
He don't do that.
I don't do that.
Like, you don't see him in Dior from head to toe, because that's what they've been wearing.
All that Fendi monogram shit, all of that.
I try to stay away from all that shit that these rappers be doing.
I ain't seen nobody.
Last time I heard Bottega, Tony Ayo mentioned it on I Think You Love Me.
Parks, they laughed me.
I had them Greg Lawrence sweats on at our Push interview.
Yeah, I remember.
Those were funky, so I could see why people laughed about them.
They were weird.
But I normally look for a weird piece.
All this Bottega shit is weird.
I was about to say, the Bottega shit looks weird.
All this Bottega shit is weird.
Look at this boot.
Man, I'm just telling y'all I noticed it.
That's all I'm saying.
Make your little internet jokes. I like it. That's all I'm saying.
Make your little internet jokes.
I like them.
Probably helps my brand in some form or fashion.
But it's nuts.
Yo Gotti.
Another one.
Congratulations to Yo Gotti, man.
What happened to Yo Gotti?
What a man.
Yo Gotti needs some type of award that hasn't been given to him yet.
Well, I brought him up because he another one I'm seeing running around in all this botega.
But he owns some of a soccer team.
Oh, shit.
DC United.
There was a video.
He posted a video of him walking in the field,
back to the camera, looked great,
smelled like money through the video.
Yo, God, he's been having an amazing year.
Well, an amazing few years.
Yeah, I was going to say. With a great roster.
Well, everyone signed him, right?
Yeah.
Yes.
Everybody I like is signed to him.
Yeah.
All the rappers I like are signed to Yo Gotti.
Buying a soccer team.
Even if it's a U.S. soccer, that's a big deal.
That franchise is worth $750 million.
Oh, shit.
So, yeah.
And I just think we need more examples of this like we we we kept
seeing the rappers that just post all the money on instagram uh naz seemed to take us by storm
when we found out he had all these different ipos and i think more people have gotten into that and
are starting to promote it again i said on here not too long ago,
Rick Ross posted his 20 investments.
That was awesome.
Now we got Yo Gotti doing it.
It's just good to see.
It's good to see that type of maturity happening in hip-hop
alongside whatever the youngsters are doing.
Yeah.
I remember a couple years back,
maybe about five years or so,
Chameleon Air was front row at the finals game.
So people was like,
yo, them tickets is like 75 grand.
How's Chameleon Air sitting there?
He ain't had a record in forever.
Then you find out he's been up there
in Silicon Valley investing heavily.
Oh, no shit.
Like Nas.
You find out, oh shit, he got all this money.
You don't hear about it.
But then you realize, yo, these dudes are smart.
They are investing where they need to invest and they're seeing returns.
That's a smart way to do it, man.
There's some hustlers out there, for real.
I say all the time, man, I watch Yo Gotti.
I'm a fan of Yo Gotti.
And I say Yo Gotti is who, everybody know Jeezy's my favorite rapper.
I say Yo Gotti is who I always envisioned my favorite rapper being. Like I thought Jeezy's my favorite rapper. I say Yo Gotti is who I always envisioned
my favorite rapper being. I thought Jeezy
would be right here. With that roster
underneath you. It seemed like he was on his way. I'm just saying
with that, being that exec, to have the roster
underneath you with all the hot artists,
to have all the business deals in place,
I just... And back to
being quiet, maybe he is and we just don't know.
Yeah.
Well, we know. everybody don't have that
that eye and ear though right it could be that like i remember when jay-z was trying to get that
uh cte shit going and and a lot of the knock at the time was damn jay-z might not have the ear
to spot the talent or the infrastructure to get the talent going they were saying a lot of that
but he had a lot of that.
But he had a lot of people in there for a while, didn't he?
I mean, he had, but the artists he had were never it.
Okay. You know, no shots to any of them, but Blood Raw, Slick Pulla,
these all, they just never were it.
Everybody Yo Gotti touches takes off.
He's like Gucci.
When I put my arm around you,
you take off.
Interesting.
Like they just have,
some people got it.
Is that about to be
the new old,
new line in hip hop,
put my arm around you?
Oh my God.
That's what happens.
Oh my God.
Like some people can see it.
That's the appearance.
Some people can see it.
They can be like,
yo, I see something in you
that I can take to the next level
i'm gonna sign you instead of you and it work and when your track record keep working it's like damn
you see something and that's a talent being able to spot that in other people i agree i agree i
don't want to leave i don't want to leave this and talk about drake especially since i said i'm not
talking about drake anymore but as soon as we left... Is it 2023?
No, not yet. Oh, my bad. Shut up, Parks.
But as soon as we left,
him and Cole are on stage.
That was as soon as we stopped the last pod.
And on Drake's exit, he
stops the music. He gives this long,
beautiful soliloquy to Cole, talking
about how he's the best and how many
people feel he's at the top of that list and
whatever he said. It was beautiful. The crowd fucking cheered fans hit me like hey man good thing you didn't go
out all the way out there with that take you had because look what just happened between drake and
cole on stage amen and i didn't say nothing yo how much longer do i think i have to pod
like how much longer could i cover the edge and just not say what I'm thinking?
I got to take this burning me up inside.
I don't want to be a pussy then.
Come on.
No.
You got to say it.
Well, no, not necessarily about this, but yeah, this too.
Because how do y'all feel about this?
There we go.
There we go.
I said that Cole's number two for me right now.
Let me get out of here. I said Cole's number two. I can tell you how I feel about it. Get it off. There we go. I said that Cole's number two for me right now. Let me get out of here.
I said Cole's number two.
I can tell you how I feel about it.
Get it off of you, Joe.
Get it off of you, Joe.
I think he sees something like, yo, it's better being friends with these dudes.
I don't have to.
I can dead the competition.
As Cole or Drake?
As Drake.
Okay.
As Drake.
I can do all of this publicly and be your friend.
Okay.
How do y'all think Cole felt about it?
Oh, you felt it was...
I have not inserted my thoughts into this conversation at all.
Okay, let me interpret what I feel like you're implicating.
But that's not fair, because I'm working on how to nicely do this podcasting.
So I shouldn't use the word sunning.
Well, is that a word that's coming to your brain?
I mean, I can see how someone might interpret it that way,
but I don't think that that was the case.
I didn't ask you that.
I said, how do you think that Cole felt about this beautiful-
Gracious and-
It's Cole, man.
Cole seems like the coolest guy in the fucking world.
You good, Parker?
No.
He good.
You think Cole is tight? Yeah. I don't think so, man. Cole seems like the coolest guy in the fucking world. You good, Parker. You good. He good. You think Cole is tight?
Yeah.
I don't think so, man.
I don't think he was tight.
Yo, maybe you don't have many days left as a podcaster either.
Yo, there's too many podcasters out there getting by and not telling y'all nothing.
I'm one of them now.
I'm going to change that today.
I'm going to give it to y'all.
Nah, no, I'm not.
Cole seems like the nicest guy in the world.
I can see how someone else.
Erickson, this is when you should be zooming in on somebody's face.
You maybe can't get Park's face, but you can get this.
I'm just laughing.
I know, but say something.
I'm about to tell you. All right. Tell millions of people. But you could get this. I'm just laughing. I know, but say something. I'm about to tell you.
All right.
Tell millions of people.
Yeah, millions of people.
Cole ain't rolling with that.
Cole's not rolling with that.
A lot of giggling.
Y'all getting tickled?
Cole ain't rolling with this.
Like, I see what you're doing.
And I will, no.
Fuck out of here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We cool.
Okay, okay.
Don't get it fucked up.
Still competition.
Yeah.
I'm out here to be the best.
And I think I'm better than you.
Nobody in hip hop will tell the truth anymore.
Not even the rappers.
Not even the participants.
All this shit is cool.
Ha, ha.
Yeah, my man.
You know I will tear your ass up, nigga.
And you know it.
Look at Parker.
I think they both could be true.
I think that the level of competition is different than how we were raised.
In life in fucking general.
I think that people are competitive, but also nice now.
I don't think they're competitive.
Well, I don't think both of them are competitive towards each other.
I think Drake is like, let me just be cool with all these niggas. think they're competitive well i don't think both of them are competitive towards each other i think
drake is like let me just be cool with all these niggas cole on the other hand is not thinking the
same way i made this record to let you know what's up wait you saw what was up so nobody sees drake
must talk one hand massage and cole and cole squinching his face up do cole look happy look
no that's what i'm saying he's not feeling it. I'm asking you. I don't know.
These is my two guys.
I know they going to tear me up.
I'm telling you.
These is my two guys.
Hey, we moving on soon.
They got too many fans.
Cole wasn't rolling.
They got too many fans.
I don't want no smoke.
But Cole wasn't rolling.
Look, Parks won't even look at his own TV.
I'm going to tell you what this is.
I'm going to tell you what this is.
This is Drake saying, yo, fam, don't make no more records, please.
This is Drake saying, walking out on stage,'t make no more records, please. This is Drake saying.
Don't rap no more of my shit.
Walking out on stage saying, oh, look at your little cute burning basket hoop.
Oh, he lit up a little hoopie hoop.
He don't care.
What I want to give him.
It also could be Drake saying, but wait till I give you the shit that was really planning on dropping,
but it didn't drop because I don't want to drop it right now.
And don't take the mic at my show when I got 30,000
people having me, people there, and just
start going off about how I'm the greatest
if you don't believe it.
Like, don't do that just to get my fans
riled up because he's a showman and you know they
believe it and he don't. Oh, man.
Alright.
I didn't have this written down so we can move from it.
Yeah, we can move. Let's move right along.
Mosey, Mosey.
That's my take and I'm leaving it at that. I didn't have this written down, so we can move from it. Yeah, we can move. Let's move right along. Mosey, mosey, mosey. Koro look the happiest.
Mosey and all.
That's my take, and I'm leaving it at that.
Mosey and through the tank.
I'm chilling.
All right, come on.
Where y'all want to start with then?
I don't know.
What you got?
You have the list.
We went over it, but you have it.
Listen, I'm off the dome with mine.
I'm off the dome with mine.
Are we going serious, or what?
What are we doing? R. Kelly. Serious. Okay. I'm just the dome with mine. I'm off the dome with mine. Are we going serious or what? R. Kelly.
Serious.
Okay.
I'm just going through them, man.
It's shame here for me to poke and make argue about things.
We're just going to get right to it and try to see what's going on.
R. Kelly found guilty.
Everything.
Took him nine hours.
They got him out of here.
Sentencing is soon.
Took him nine hours and 30 years.
Well, yeah, that part.
Yeah. Sentencing is May. Took him nine hours and 30 years. And, well, yeah, that part. Yeah.
Sentencing is May 4th, 2022, and they're saying he can spend the rest of his life in prison.
How do you gentlemen feel?
I didn't get to read a lot of analysis, but I saw that they were promoting and highlighting that it was like a racketeering charge.
Racketeering, yes.
I don't know shit.
Can y'all inform me of why this is the case?
Bracketeering, they said he was the head of a criminal enterprise that was funneling women.
Or doing things to women.
Okay.
And he was the head, which would make it.
I wonder why.
Okay.
Hmm.
All right.
He just had so many other charges.
I wonder if that's like an easier charge to pin.
No, no, no.
He guilty on all those too.
Oh, okay, okay.
He was guilty on all the charges.
And now he has other cases.
Oh, he's still got more shit to face up.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Now he got to go back to Illinois for more cases.
This was just New York.
This was a federal charge in New York.
He's not going to see no daylight.
No.
This was just New York.
This was a federal charge in New York.
He's not going to see no daylight.
No.
Listen, as Park stated earlier,
I've kind of known about this for quite some time now.
I don't know if there's much of a deep dive here that hasn't already been done.
But are we throwing the guy's whole catalog away, really?
I don't want to hear that shit.
Yeah, it's been thrown away to me, actually.
That shit makes me uncomfortable to listen to yeah you know i don't mean to be safe or anything it just does
it makes me uncomfortable to listen to that shit i know they say the whole i know they say the whole
separate the art from the artist thing but in his case a lot of the art it was talking about talking
about you know shit that was happening. So there was no separation.
And it's just hard for me to listen to any of it now.
Honestly, I don't play any R. Kelly.
I don't have him on any of my devices.
I don't even play the features featuring him.
I just don't listen to him. I'm just going to play the other side of the seesaw for sake of it.
Okay.
Not all the way, because I don't support it.
Right.
But Ice, what is the difference between this and some of the gangster rap that we listen to?
It's just, this shit is taking advantage of little kids, man.
Like, I'm sorry.
I guess I'm a hypocrite.
I pick and choose what battle I take.
I've been saying for the longest that we are all hypocrites,
and people have been fighting me on that, but it is the truth.
Every single person's fucking plan is a hypocrite.
Yes, but the main thing is just acknowledging that.
It's okay.
Because we all have things we feel this way about,
and then things we may turn our head about the other way.
And we also change our opinions on shit.
Correct.
So what i thought
then i might not think now and listen there might be a time i doubt it in 20 years where you can
throw on the remix to ignition and i won't be skeeved out but i don't think so i take it a
step further in terms of hypocrite being a hypocrite uh-huh when the r kelly tape dropped
years ago yeah that tape was played everywhere yeah every barbershop in america yeah not even
thinking there's something wrong with what we were watching dudes was yo you seen r kelly tape
yo look at this shit yo he has face all in that like he pissing on the chick like that was the
talk i remember i remember too not sitting there saying yo we shouldn't even be looked like this
is disgusting yeah i mean granted at the time i was probably not that old either the barbers were the
barbers were that old no that's what i'm saying people were watching and sharing this tape like
it was the new whole freestyle yeah and then you start to realize yo and i damn like i look back
like damn we was really watching and and like bigging up this tape yeah i don't know i say
bigging up as in like yo you seen it like that right but as you grow and you just realize certain
shit just wasn't right yeah don't mean i didn't partake back then in watching and talking about it
right but the same thing like i can't listen to this dude's music. I can't.
I can't.
I just can't.
It just makes me uncomfortable.
Yeah, for real.
And I got a daughter.
Mm.
That weighs in too.
A lot of times,
how things affect personally,
like I have a daughter,
so it just weighs in a little bit heavier on me.
Mm-hmm.
Something involving little kids
or young kids,
particularly young women.
Mm-hmm.
I don't know if, if I didn't, would things look the same? I don't know if if i didn't would things look the
same i don't know but i only can address it the way i am now and i got a daughter this nigga's
disgusting it has been disgusting his team around him enabled it they've all been disgusted i think
they all should be on trial i was just about to ask if they had any of the other people because
racketeering implies some type of
organized crime type of situation, correct?
So why are not his
accomplices being...
I agree. Unless, I guess they
probably were all helping. We can look that up, but I do
think that there were a few other people under
investigation. A lot of them cooperated.
Yeah, okay. Which is how they
built this case.
The docs that they had about this
the one dude's saying how he he forged documents to get him to marry a leader
the other dude's saying how he would go to the high school and pick girls up and say yo y'all
want to meet rob of course no young girl's gonna turn that down so there's no percentage of the
pie for y'all that says well, he is a victim as well.
I don't see him as a victim.
Well, he allegedly was a victim of, I forgot who they said
molested him as a child or whatever
maybe. So, yeah,
he might be a victim, but that doesn't excuse
Of course not.
He could have been a victim of something in his
personal life younger, but I don't see
that.
It's sad, certainly, but it doesn but I can't be like, oh, it's cool, I can put on.
Oh, because that happened to you, now you did this.
I can't say that I'll never listen to another R. Kelly song again.
I can't say that.
That's what I said.
Maybe with time, it'll be less uncomfortable for me.
I certainly won't look to throw it on while the opposite sex is present.
No,
because it would put me in that mind of all the horrific things that he did.
But if I'm alone,
I maybe could listen to your bodies calling me,
even if,
even if it's just to hear,
hear the,
from then to now for him.
And you know,
the crazy,
like it is still probably the second
or third greatest catalog ever he's ever made he has an amazing catalog but i've even been at bars
and in clubs and parties and shit where it came on and i was like i'm going outside or something
like it's saying to that for me same you know i'm saying i don't want to hear it out i don't want to
hear it around women yeah but while i'm alone i get it i don't know i just don't want to hear it out. I don't want to hear it around women. Yeah. But while I'm alone.
I get it.
I don't know.
I just don't know.
I haven't done it, so please don't kill me.
But to say that I'm not.
Shit, I was somewhere the other day, and somebody was talking about
throw TP2 on.
And I was like, no.
No, please don't while I'm here.
And he was like, you going to front on what TP2 did?
Like, of course not.
I was outside when TP2 dropped.
I know what happened.
And I know what the women that were sleeping with me were doing when that album came out.
They was schooling my little young ass.
And I don't think that people should support him, but I'm not going to kill nobody if they want to listen to it still.
I just don't want to hear it personally.
Here's the other side where I say being a hypocrite.
I won't listen to none of his music.
But he wrote for other artists.
I'll listen to that.
You see what I'm saying?
It's just hearing his voice.
It's hearing him.
But then it's like, okay, so now you're picking and choosing.
Yeah, I am.
And there's a lot of people like that.
Like, yo, cancel everything R. Kelly.
Do you know his catalog to make that statement
i mean it's because a lot of the songs that you still will listen to came from him what do y'all
think about fat fat joe and jaru's decision to not play any r kelly records smart i love it
smart because every time someone played one of the verses like i remember when i see brothers
and that that what you saw on all the commentary like like, yo, they really went here? Wow. R. Kelly records?
It's been a couple people that played some R. Kelly records.
I also saw a lot of people championing Float on when it came on.
It is a great song.
See, that's fucked up because that was a moment for Ron Isley.
Yeah.
Yes, R. Kelly played a huge part in it because he wrote it.
He developed the character.
Whatever, yeah.
But, oh, man. That's tricky. I was outside for that. That was important. huge part in it because he wrote it he developed the character whatever yeah but oh man
it's just
it's tricky
I was outside for that
that was important
I remember
actually you
have worked on
an R. Kelly produced record
right
how does that feel
I'm playing my shit
the fuck is y'all
talking about
well cause it's
half your shit
I'm playing it
just because
he wrote the record
but you're right
I know but
I'm just curious
the mentality that's gotta be conflicting like damn I'm playing it just because he wrote the record, but you're right. I know, but I'm just curious the mentality.
That's got to be conflicting.
Like, damn, I'm not that.
Right.
I'm playing clubbing.
Sorry, buddy, but I'm with Ice.
If it's not his voice, I'm kind of all right.
Like, I blast Aaliyah back and forth a million times.
That's my song, Aaliyah back and forth.
And I don't think about...
You don't think R. Kelly.
I don't think of that.
Right.
But he did write it
and he was monumental in it.
But I mean,
he wrote for everyone.
A lot of people
got to throw
some of their favorite songs.
That was my point.
And there's shit
that people don't even know
he produced or he wrote
or got samples
or if you want to jump
all the way out the window
and say,
I'm never listening
to anything R. Kelly that had to do with him ever again,
that's a lot of music you're going to miss.
Then look at the moments you're taking away.
Like, we got to take away all the moments that come along with the Fiesta remix?
Fam, every high school.
Think about that.
The guilty verdict made me face this.
This conversation has been had every different way.
I really wish what could happen is they could figure out a way to divert his income from this shit into victims.
He wasn't making anything off of this anyway.
Oh.
Like, that was his whole thing.
Yo, I'm bankrupt anyway.
He wasn't making any money off of his.
He was making some type of money off that shit.
I'm not sure.
I mean, he was probably getting shitty splits,
but he was making some money off that.
He had records.
I know records, but we don't know the contract.
That's true.
But to say he wasn't making any money off it is...
I don't believe that for a second.
He was getting paid.
Well, yeah.
I guess maybe...
Well, he's bankrupt,
and they say that his music catalog
is now worth
negative three million
damn
I don't know how that
could possibly be
no
but
out of my wheelhouse
uh
I could see it being worth
nothing but negative
implying
that means you owe
you owe
I don't
I don't know
maybe I guess
I don't see how that's possible
negative two million dollars
that's what he's worth.
That's his worth.
Oh, that's his worth.
His worth.
Well, I can see that,
because he's got legal fees out the fucking ass.
Well, did he sell his catalog?
I don't know.
We should investigate this.
Let's see what's going on with R. Kelly's catalog,
and is there still value in it?
Because I'm certain there are plenty of people out there
that feel like y'all, like, I'm not going to play this.
Right.
But somebody out there is going to take a chance on buying that catalog.
Right.
And again, not for nothing.
He still has fans.
If they made the money, the proceeds from this shit go to a good place, then we might be able to play at least the shit that he wasn't on vocally and feel okay about it.
Yeah, I didn't even feel good about it when you said that.
Yeah.
Probably won't. Like, I keep thinking what would happen about it when you said that. Yeah. Probably won't.
Like, I keep thinking what would happen if some of my favorite R&B acts were to even
redo some of these records.
How would I feel?
And I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I don't know the answer.
They wouldn't even do it.
Like, right now, they just staying away from them completely.
Yeah.
Like, you see here, R. Kelly is trying to sell his publishing rights, but no one will
buy them.
And a potential buyer said, we wouldn't go near it with a 10-foot pole. Yeah, but it only takes one. Yeah. Yeah. You see here someone R. Kelly is trying to sell his publishing rights, but no one will buy them. And a potential buyer said we wouldn't go near it with a 10 foot pole.
Yeah, but it only takes one. Yeah. Yeah. And it only takes enough for that shit to drop to being worthless for someone to say, yeah, I'll buy it.
Yeah, I'll take a million dollars. I'll take it. Yeah. No, I mean, you see, like and again, like I said, he still has fans at the same time. There were people outside the courthouse after the guilty verdict, hooked up Bluetooth speakers, started blasting his music, and were chanting that we got your back, R. Kelly, free R. Kelly, all of that.
He still has a fan base.
It might not be as big as it once was.
He still has a fan base.
Everyone hasn't turned their back on him.
His attorney said that the guilty verdict was a surprise to him.
He must not have seen the video.
He must not have seen
none of the R. Kelly doc.
Yeah.
Yeah, I knew from the doc.
The docs.
I knew then.
He must not have been
paying close attention
to anything R. Kelly related
these past 20 years,
25 years.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is just.
And you know he's going to appeal.
Of course.
We'll keep you posted with what's happening here.
People probably are Kelly'd out.
Prayers up to all the victims, man.
Yes.
I mean, most importantly.
Yes.
Prayers to the victims.
And prayers to the Kelly family.
Yeah.
Prayers to the Kelly.
That had to do a lot, too.
Oh, no no I'm just
talking about for
whatever sick stuff
is being kept
kept in the
family.
Like we don't
know that they're
all sick.
Oh so I mean
that's you know
I don't know
that's tricky.
It don't take but
for so many sickles
to be in the family
for the entire
family to need
prayer.
Oh no doubt. That's what I'm saying. Yeah I don't I don't know. I'm agreeing with the prayer be in the family, for the entire family to need prayer. Oh, no doubt.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm agreeing with the prayer to the family.
But all them stories that the brother told up there.
The one that was locked up, right?
Yeah, and if he didn't say nothing, you could just kind of look and see,
oh, there's something going on here.
Yeah, there was a lot going on there, and it's been for a long time.
Yeah, so prayers to the victim.
Prayers to the victims in the Kelly family. Just been for a long time. Yeah, so prayers to the victim. Prayers to the victims
in the Kelly family.
Just trying to have some compassion. It's a real sad
story. It is. Really, really sad story.
We'll keep you posted with
the book that they throw at R. Kelly. You know
a big one is coming his way. No doubt.
Set a record.
Andrea. Andrea Martin.
Didn't like to wake up.
I didn't like waking up to that news. I saw it last night on Twitter.
It was maybe 10 p.m. or something like that.
I woke up this morning.
I was like, wait, what?
Singer-songwriter Andrea Martin has passed away.
Excuse me.
Dear family and friends, it is with a heavy heart we inform you of the passing of our beautiful Andrea Martin, also known as Annie.
This was posted on monday pardon me andrea will always be remembered for her passion and dedication to her family and friends her impact will continue to be felt and heard for a long time
we thank you in advance for your condolences love compassion and understanding during this time
please limit calls as we are trying to finalize arrangements at this time once finalized we will
be sure to post arrangements martin is best known for her pen she wrote several amazing hits
including in vogue's don't let go monica's before you walk out my life melanie fiona's give it to
me right angie stones wish i didn't miss you and swvs you're the one all of those are my favorite
songs she was incredible
man she was incredible she was one of the first people i worked with uh dnd the old dnd she was
doing her songwriting session with uh charles and that was like the first time i ever was in like a
real songwriting session too and i was like this this shit is incredible it's happening and this
isn't even for her this is for her to shop to someone else. Like, what are you talking about? She was definitely one of the more fun sessions I've been a part of.
For those that don't know, she was the vocalist on Making a Murder.
She was a character, man.
She was a character in that session.
That was toward the end of my career, so I was kind of like,
I wasn't with all the funny shit in the studio.
Like, just come in do
the shit and go but she was such a ball of life like she was really getting in my head about the
verse and the lyrics and like really trying i'm like trying to really make a song out of this
thing i just want to diss this nigga and go oh but she was just excited she was excited like she was
a part of the beef yeah but she just really made herself a part of the session.
And we had a blast.
We had a blast in there.
She was a lot of fun to work with, man.
I'm thankful to have worked with her a bunch of times.
And she was always fun, charismatic, awesome,
and then just absolutely incredible with the pen and melody.
And vocally.
Like, her demos, it wasn't some bullshit.
Like, she could sing, sing, sing.
No, I know.
Ian's got kind of,
he's got this club song of hers
that he plays often
that I love.
He won't give it to me.
It's a great, great, great record.
Hopefully the public
will get a chance to hear it
sometime soon.
Rest in peace, Andrew.
We love you.
We miss you.
We celebrate you.
We need a lot of standing.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you, thank you, thank you
for your contributions.
There are no details on her death, but good.
Yeah.
Just keep it like that.
Yeah.
Everything ain't for everybody else.
Yeah, not at all.
Yeah.
I totally agree.
I definitely agree with that.
All right.
Everything don't have to be put out on display.
It doesn't matter.
Nope.
She's not here rest in peace
we thank her for everything
and then
the family can
keep the details
to themselves
rest in peace Andrea
rest in peace XX XXX, too.
You've been heavy on my mind lately.
Biz Markie.
Recently, I just get random images of the people that we've lost.
It's me so many that sometimes you forget.
Girl, you're looking sweet, dog.
Rest in peace, Fred the Godson. Girl, you're looking sweet, dog. Bye.
Rest in peace, Fred the Godson. And his father passed away recently.
His pops passed.
Fred the Godson's dad passed?
Yeah, yeah.
Big prayer.
Prayers for the family.
Yeah.
What's up, man? Our guy that does all our music edits when we want somebody taking off a record or something
like that, his mom just passed yesterday.
Oh, shit.
I saw him post that.
I wasn't sure if it was...
Yeah, he texted me last night and told me what happened.
So, just a big rest in peace.
Prayers up.
You already know the whole family.
You already know.
Whole family.
You already know.
Alright, mic check, mic check.
One, two, one, two.
Mic check, mic check.
One, two, one, two.
Alright, where do we want to go?
I'm not even looking at the list.
I'm just going. Do we want to go? I'm not even looking at the list. I'm just going.
Do we want to do Miguel's divorce breakup split?
Do we want to do our one-year anniversary of being independent from Spotify?
Oh, is that today?
Not today, but it's September.
It's September.
We left last September.
Damn. We have officially been on our own independent for a year.
And boy, what a year it's been.
Boy, what a year it has been.
Sheesh.
Yeah, so that hit me over the weekend, and I took a moment to reflect on it.
I was proud.
I was proud of us, proud of y'all, proud of myself,
just as I sat and thought about where podcasting sits, where it was, where it's going.
One of those mushy moments in my head, but yeah.
Deservedly so.
Of all the podcasts out there, not too many that can do it like this.
That and that stand independent.
See, that's the important part.
I'm not going to just celebrate that in music and not celebrate the importance of it in podcasting especially if you understand it
so to be gone for a year and really look at the year and all that you've gone through in the year
all of the hurdles all of the pit stops all the people that have come and go all of the business
the checks that have come and go the company is just the month off you took from youtube it's been a year yeah it has been a year so it has
it i'm gonna hit round does it hit the button hit the round of applause i deserve that shit
for just seeing something sticking to it and being able to stand firm in that and living with the results. And I'm proud of where we land a year later.
So I'm happy about that.
Also, it got me to thinking, what the hell going on at Spotify?
See, that just sounds like I'm being nosy, but I'm not.
I feel like it has been a little quiet, right?
See?
Huh.
That could mean one of two things.
They gearing up? They're gearing up. Or? be one of two things. They gearing up?
They're gearing up.
Or?
Or they're coasting.
I mean, it's just my job as a podcaster to think about these things.
I know the fans, because of my previous relationship with Spotify,
they're like, why are you talking about that shit?
But they're still responsible for a really large part of podcasting.
Yeah, absolutely.
So you kind of go.
They're big in our ascension.
They helped in our ascension.
No, they did.
No, they definitely, definitely, definitely did.
I don't know what they're doing
and I don't want to get to speculating,
but there's something
going on out there. Yeah, I would imagine.
There's something going on out there.
When it's too quiet, when it's too quiet, it there. Yeah, I would imagine. There's something going on out there. They got too much juice. When it's too quiet.
Yeah.
When it's too quiet, it just seems like, you know, you don't give one dude $100 million
and then give somebody else $60 million for it to be this quiet.
I'll tell you what, though.
I'm noticing because I see even Spotify is doing it now with the podcast subscriptions.
is doing it now with the podcast subscriptions everybody's offering a way for if you have any type of following you can get paid from it like and when you realize that you start to really see
why you're seeing the things that you're seeing from people from influencers tastemakers from
podcasters yeah you see it you get it it's. It's like, yo, if I can build this.
See, before it was just you would build the brand
and then you would hope somebody would come to you and, you know.
Let you sell mattresses.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll get you to sell this.
Or, you know, I'll give you a couple pennies for you to post it.
You know, you could turn some money off of it that way.
Right.
But then what started to happen was you could build the brand
and just sell whatever you built your brand on
directly to your fans.
Right.
Well, in between that, it was building the brand
and then selling it to a Spotify or a different company
for them to do what they please with.
What they do.
Yeah.
Now it's like you get to keep your brand
and you can charge them directly.
Right. So I like it.
I feel like Twitter's been quiet too.
Twitter's doing the same thing.
There's a lot of quiet
and you just got to be able to
get something from quiet.
Twitter's been quiet.
I know they offer that monetization program too
where if you make some of your tweets private, they'll pay you
per month. Is that happening?
It started.
It's now called
Super Follows,
I believe it is.
And you can
charge a premium.
I remember them
talking about it,
but I don't think
I've seen it.
It's out.
Yeah.
And then the other thing
they do now
is ticketed spaces.
So you know they have
the spaces thing
in their app?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, now you can
sell tickets.
Oh, no shit.
It'll be a private space and
only people that purchase tickets can enter the space spotify rolled out some some form of tipping
system i don't think it lasted too long but they rolled something out too apple did their
subscription thing i can't really speak too much on that either. Just fun to watch.
See, look, I can't even get into this right now.
To me, I'm on the outside looking into all of that.
But I saw, to me, it seemed like once you saw the popularity of Patreon and OnlyFans,
because those were the two that you saw everybody pushing to.
When you saw that, all these other companies said, oh, no, no, no, no, no.
We can do that too. We can do it too.
Yeah.
Sell it right here. you don't have to go
anywhere else
you don't have to build
a new fan base
you don't build a new fan base
with the fan base
you built here
whatever you wanted
to sell them
sell it through here
so we can take a percentage
rather than you go
do it over there
but that's why it's interesting
because with all of these
different platforms
seem to be
seemingly incentivizing you
to stay
independent.
There are more and more people that just will not stay independent.
Well,
I think a lot of people,
it just comes from not knowing anything about business or the business.
And it's just says,
Hey,
I put my trust in the company or they just get offered a bag and they're
like,
fuck,
we'll take the bag.
Yeah.
I make X amount of dollars.
Yeah, I'll just take the bag and then I don't have any.
This covers that or is substantially more than that.
Fuck it.
I don't have to worry about none of that shit.
Not mad at that approach, too.
Me neither.
One thing I've noticed is everybody's not meant to be an owner.
True.
Like, everybody can't be owners.
Right. You got to have workers. It's a lot of work to be an owner true like everybody can't be owners right you gotta have workers it's a lot of it's a lot of work that's with anything i don't mean in this space or just anything you can't have
everybody be the owner we popularized owning your own shit here a lot we talked about it a lot anyway
i think that led to some of the popularity of the conversation but there's a lot that comes with it
and you can attest to it with the year that you've had.
Fam, I'll tell you.
I've had a year.
I hear y'all talk about owning your own podcast.
Y'all know I started my own podcast a couple years back.
Shout out to Beatrice.
Shout out to B.
Oh, I got to tell you a story about her.
She blocked me.
B and B got fake B.
Shout out to Beatrice.
Free my guys.
Shout out to Beatrice.
Everybody tell Beatrice don't block me.
Block this dude.
Nah, nah nah nah
he be foul sometimes
oh
but go ahead
you tell me later
but nah
even with that
like I didn't know
so much came in
the owning your own
podcast
yeah
fam it was so much
shit that I'm responsible
for that I had to do
that I just did not feel
didn't feel like doing
didn't have the time
to do
and didn't know
it took that much
and not only that
hey learning what I have to do.
Like, you're doing shit, and there's a lot more that you got to do
that you don't know that you got to do.
Right, I didn't even get that far.
Right.
I got step one and was like, damn, I got to worry about all of this?
Right.
And I'm still, well, no, I don't got time for this shit.
Right.
So I get it.
And let alone, even if you did know what to do,
where to find the people to do the things.
So there's a lot.
It's a lot that comes with ownership.
I was a year ahead in my planning.
I'm typically ahead, so that doesn't shock me.
But when 2021 got here, in my head I said,
I'm not playing this year.
I'm not even playing with the year.
2020 held me in the house.
It was quarantine.
It was COVID.
It was death's pain
loss 2020 uh 2021 i'm on their ass work non-stop watch how much i get done and god had other plans
i kind of love when that happens though i do some people respond negatively When God shows you a different route
Or that you're on the wrong route
Or that certain people weren't who you believed them to be
Or that that plan or relationship that you had faith in
That faith was maybe misplaced or in the wrong spot
Some people respond really negatively to that
I'm the exact opposite
And I know I'm weird in that
But I thank God that he shows me
things early rather than late like i could have stayed in that bad spot thinking that that was
the place to be and it could have turned out really really bad so god had a really rude awakening for
me this year and my all of my plans had to get pushed back. And what I thought was going to be a year of innovation
and pushing boundaries and progression and growth
and maturity and just the entire gang growing,
it was a year of hurdles.
It was a year of poor interaction.
It was a year of reflecting on mistakes, things we have done better things i could have done better it's been a year of lawyer games man man
man i'm saying this with my owner hat on boy it's been a lot of attorney games being played from people. Creators,
podcasters,
people with
hidden agendas and motives.
And sometimes when you get so
engulfed in the work,
you're the last to know.
It usually happens that way.
Yeah, like when
I started my career,
I was asking Web and Nitty,
how do I know when i'm
hot how do i know when i'm hot when i'm hot when i'm hot and they said you'll be the last to know
works the same for when you cold like when you dealing with when you dealing with a profession
that involves the opinions of so many other people and and just how you're perceived and received
you'll be the last to know some shit so this this year, while it was head down to the finish line, work, work, work,
I just missed some things.
I missed some things, and I was glad that God showed them to me,
and not just me, but the guys that were sitting here with me.
Like, the result was the same.
The path was just different.
Like, today, in hindsight, I do feel like a lot of the things that happened this year,
especially with the old squad,
were necessary for everybody to grow.
So yeah, that's growth.
It's just going to happen differently.
It's not going to happen pain-free
the way you may have envisioned.
It's not going to happen comfortably
the way that you may have
thought last friday i was gonna come in here and have some fun with that little picture that was
circulating but i could tell that nobody nobody was really in the mood to really get to the shits
last week but boy i'm having fun reading the comments under those uh that me and rory picture
that's just oh the one from the party or whatever yeah yeah and it's hilarious look at this picture
i was gonna talk about this on patreon but this is just funny but i when i this picture adds to
you know i see it i see it when i play back play back my year and i'm talking about my year in
terms of just trying to get other podcasts started, trying to develop a network, trying to act as the conduit between companies and creators.
Like y'all said, a lot of shit comes with that ownership shit.
And I can't say that I saw it all coming.
I didn't.
So I didn't want to take this time to thank God.
Thank you, God, man. I know we're not at the end of the year yet,
but we're close enough to it and we keep going through loss
and people keep leaving.
So I don't want to miss a chance to say thank you for just the year,
for me and my family making it through, for you guys,
for Ice and Ish with the audible that was called,
for these guys stepping up, for the behind-the-scenes YouTube and just these guys stepping up for the behind the scenes,
YouTube, and just all, everybody just stepping up.
Everybody having the ability to step up.
It wasn't easy.
It wasn't easy because we kept trucking.
Bam.
It was not easy.
I mean, I know it wasn't easy for y'all,
but there's a side, like me and Ish.
I'm sure it was very difficult for y'all.
Night and day.
Like somebody like me, I have, I'm a very, very difficult for y'all Night and day Yeah Like Somebody like me I have
I'm a very
I plan everything out
I have my work week
Not work day
Work week planned out
I know what I'm doing
I know what time
Like
I have
With my family
I know what's going on
And shit just
Changed
Overnight
I didn't know it would
Turn into this
I
Fam
Like I tell everybody,
Joe tricked me.
It worked.
It worked.
But even that,
even in the time we set in,
original was,
yo,
I'm going to need you to do this
for a couple weeks.
I don't know what's going on,
but it's a couple weeks.
I just need you to hold me down.
All right, cool.
In my head,
that's a couple weeks but even in
that i smile thinking about even just and i know it's mushy time now he's shaming here so fucking
i just thought but even watching y'all's progression in what we're doing and and y'all just getting
better and just getting in a groove of things like i'm happy about that word like i'm i am i'm
proud of that like i had faith in it at the beginning,
but it worked out even better than I would have expected.
This goes back to what I said about Yo Gotti.
Because you've said forever,
I'm talking, this conversation's going back
2015 maybe.
He's told me, you need to be in podcasting.
You just want to waste your time tweeting.
He said the same thing to Ish.
I was getting to that.
He told Ish,
yo, you're argumentative. you need to be podcasting.
Yeah.
You and such and such.
And y'all can do this.
But the ability to see talent in people that they might not see.
And then, God, bro.
God say, all right, look, nobody want to listen?
I got y'all.
I'm going to make it happen anyway.
So that's what I keep hearing.
Like, I get the fans telling me, again, I try not to read comments,
but I do get a lot of tweets of people saying, yo,
I followed you from way back when.
I thought this was a great fit for you.
I'm glad you see it now.
And we see you're getting comfortable with it
and y'all are getting better
every week.
Mm-hmm.
So I like to hear that.
Like, okay,
we doing something right.
Like, the last thing
I wanted to do,
I know what y'all built.
I know what it took
to sit in these seats.
Mm-hmm.
So the last thing
I wanted to do
was come in here
and fuck that up.
Right.
Like, I put pressure on myself.
Like, ah, God,
I don't want to come in here
and, you know what I'm saying?
Like, that is just a lot. Yeah., God, I don't want to come in here and... You know what I'm saying?
It's just a lot.
Yeah.
For two people that don't have... Media, entertainment, experience.
None of that.
We just walking in off the street.
So it was a lot.
Y'all crushed it.
And have been crushing it.
Hopefully we can continue to crush it.
Man, what a fucking stressful year, though.
It's been a year it took
me this year to realize that i was being looked at as a mark from a lot of people i was late to
that party i just didn't know when i say a mark i mean the friend conversations turned into business conversations.
Like I thought they may have been friend conversations,
but they were really business talks.
The people that would stop by my house in the morning
to just spend the morning coffee with me,
they really wanted to run a business idea by me
or something to that effect.
It's just been a year of that.
See, I'm getting a lot of that now even here like people that i'm used to be cool with now when they see me it's
it's not cool no more it's let me run something past you let me
yo how let me get you to play this and like fam i thought it was cool why i gotta be that i don't
want to sound like we're having a podcaster's pity party because that's not what we're doing but i reflect i reflect what a
year what a year i'm thankful for it and in 2022 and like i told y'all man head down to the finish
line we'll look look up in about six seven eight months and see where we sit like fam they two-thirds of the show left and we stayed a top pod
i don't know how many other people go through that and land that way
it's true now i get out some of you might look at it agile you can fucking shit up yeah
but boy he's agile he lands pretty good and i'll be honest with you and I probably shouldn't share this
but the selfishness in me
right
I love the fact
that now
any conversation I have with
let's say Rory
it's private
I like that
it's selfish
I know and that's the same reason so many fans are mad it's like
god damn we love that shit but i'm on your business fuck y'all fuck y'all it's lifetime now
it's time for people to do a little more evolving maturing and when you're doing that you're doing
it in the confines of where you're comfortable at mind your business need to be more mind your
business boy it feels good feels good round of applause people mind their fucking business
y'all don't have to know everything bottom line yeah i like you do i do i do i do it feels good
it feels good um what else do we have i went on like this emotional. No, it was good. Sorry. Sorry, you guys.
Oh, this is more emotion.
This is more emotion here.
Miguel and his wife.
I never knew how to pronounce her name.
And I don't want to mess it up.
I'm not going to say that.
But they split.
That's sad.
I know it sounds like we're doing a gossip pod.
But boy, I really believed in them.
I was hurt when this happened.
And I don't think I was the only one.
No details.
Their rep put out a statement.
I'm always blown away by relationships with reps, but I guess that's when you're rich enough to have.
Yeah, you got to have it.
Yeah, I mean, we don't speak.
Just talk to our rep.
After almost two decades together, singers Miguel and Nazanin, I'm fucking her name up,
Nazanin and Mandy have called it quits.
A representative for the couple confirmed.
I'm not reading what they said to people.
But this is just sad, man.
This gets a big on from me.
I love them.
I follow them both.
And who knows why they split?
They're recently married.
Been together forever, but only been married for like three years.
That's why they split.
No, I'm just joking.
I hate to be the selfish guy here,
but I'm a music fan.
Oh, here we go.
Fire.
I can't be the only one thinking it.
I can't be the only one.
I can't be the only one thinking it i can't be i'm can't
i can't be the only one absolute flames gunshot we missed him i missed him i missed miguel i missed Miguel. I already know what I think is about to occur, and I cannot wait.
Oh, that's funny.
That is not to highlight whatever he's going through in this divorce,
because I'm sure that that's difficult.
But the music that we're about to receive, I'm excited.
Amen.
I am.
Amen.
I'm glad you said it.
Yeah.
I am. That's fucked up, right? It is. Yeah, I told you we ain't shit I'm glad you said it. Yeah. I am.
That's fucked up, right?
It is.
Yeah, I told you we ain't shit, but we all thought it.
That's bad, though.
This is going to be so fire, though.
This is going to be Kaleidoscope dreams fire.
I know it.
I just know it is.
Look at them.
Oh, it's going to be great.
All right, I don't have nothing to say about this.
I don't have nothing to say about this.
They was together for, what, 17 years or something like that?
Yeah, 17 years.
17 years.
Long time.
Long time.
Man, shout out to that.
That's a fucking, that's a hell of a run.
Yeah, sometimes things run their course, man.
Yeah.
That's all.
I'm not mad at it.
Not at all.
You can't be mad at that.
We have a report saying that Rihanna says that her album is going to sound completely different
than fans think it's going to sound completely different than fans
think it's going to sound it is it's like silence yeah y'all not hearing shit
she's given us so many different genres I don't even know what y'all are not getting shit. What genre hasn't she given us?
Y'all are not getting shit.
Gospel?
That's Ice's take.
That is Ice's take.
That's Ice's take.
That's a safe take, too.
No, I kind of agree with you.
That's a safe take.
Oh, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys, you guys. I can tell you what it means.
You guys.
It means y'all going to be disappointed.
That's what it means.
I don't think I could be.
No, I know we, I'm just telling you, when an artist comes out and says, yo, my album
is going to sound like nothing, or they'll say, I'm experimenting with a new sound and
all of this.
She's done literally, she's rapped.
I get it.
She's done pop records.
She's done acoustic guitar recalibration.
I'm just telling you, when artists put that statement out, and then the music follows, it's a prep statement. She's done acoustic guitar recalibration. I'm just telling you, when artists put that statement out and then the music follows, it's a prep statement.
She's done straight R&B records.
She's done EDM records.
What is she going to give us that's different?
A country album?
I want to preface my following statements with Rihanna is on my list of people that are beyond critique.
Facts.
I want to make myself clear so that there's no confusion.
Rihanna is on a very short list of active entertainers that for me,
they've done too much.
They've grossed and netted too much.
They're too accomplished,
too talented,
too great and too dope.
And much like my Lil Wayne argument last week,
if Rihanna decides to never record a song again,
she can do that.
It's solidified with Joe.
Fact.
It is solidified.
Nothing she could do to change her spot
of greatness with Joe.
Now,
boy, this is hurting me to say.
Oh, here we go.
It's hurting me to say it, but I'm going to say it.
It's a take that's been burning me up inside for weeks.
For weeks.
But I'm afraid of the Navy.
You should be.
So I never, and I'm in the Navy.
We're all in the Navy. Yeah, we're all in the Navy.
And I'm in the Navy. We're all in the Navy. And I'm in the Navy.
But I have certain beliefs when it comes to music
that are greater than all the entertainers that occupy the game.
Much like we just said about Miguel, Mary J, me.
You break up, a fire might be coming.
You happy?
Much like I said about Nicki and Meek,
hey, you fall in love shicka look where
all right
come on with it i know where you're going i'm just gonna tell y'all
you think we're getting a 2088 hell no that there have been signs to me
that shit
this album might sound
completely different than we're used
to hearing
can I ask you a question
before you expand on that
I don't even know if I'm going to expand but go ahead
did their Met Gala
outfits have anything
to do with what you think?
It was the quilt for you?
I know Rihanna to be the coolest entertainer in the world.
Like, she's just coolest.
She's the coolest thing ever.
She is the coolest.
Probably the thing that we've ever seen.
The coolest.
But I know goofball shit when I see it, too.
And I know nobody else out there is going to say it.
But I've been seeing some goofball shit circulating around Rihanna.
Not Rihanna.
Because that's impossible for her to be goofy.
But I watched the Fenty party.
I got to watch that. I watched the Fenty party. I got to watch that.
I watched the Fenty party coming to New York Fashion Week.
You had all the tastemakers there.
I missed it.
I didn't.
I'm going to watch it.
You know what I seen?
Nas.
A lot of goofies.
Oh, no.
I didn't mean to put you there.
A lot of goofies.
Never talking about Nas, by the way.
Yeah, I didn't mean to put them there.
Lots and lots and lots of goofies. Never talking about Nas, by the way. Yeah, I didn't mean to put them. Lots and lots and lots of goofies.
In the Amazon thing?
It's on Amazon Prime.
I don't know what.
I don't know nothing about that.
I don't know where it is.
I've just seen pictures, footage.
I know some people that are fenty people.
A lot of goofy shit in there.
I'm going to say it.
I'm saying it.
Okay.
Sorry.
I believe you.
I didn't say it.
Hey, fam, say what you want.
I don't.
I'm not.
It only caught me because I'm not used to seeing goofy shit around Rihanna.
But fine.
We'll keep it pushing.
Met Gala.
Outfit time.
I could just hear the conversation between them two getting dressed.
Just getting dressed ready for this. I can hear it. I could just hear the conversation between them two getting dressed. Just getting dressed ready for this.
I can hear it. I'm telling you something.
But no comment.
No comment.
Lord knows I ain't the one to ever say
something about these two fly ass niggas and how they dress.
Alright, well.
But, but, but.
Look goofy.
To me.
They're going to tear me up.
They are.
I'm going to say, they're going to tear me up.
But I'm only highlighting this because Rihanna has killed this carpet the last six, seven years by herself.
She's been, exactly.
So now.
So check this out, though.
Get this fucking.
Wait, check this out.
Check this out.
Yo, fam, somebody got to tell. So, I saw a post.
Somebody saw their Met Gala outfits, and the dude was like, yo, this looks like a quilt
my grandmother had.
So, he was like, I'm almost certain.
So, he went back and looked through some pictures, because he found out his grandmother gave
a quilt to a thrift shop in the hood.
Well, not in the hood, but wherever.
Yeah, right.
It is the quilt.
Oh, wait. It is the quilt. Oh, wait.
It is the quilt.
That was a Salvo quilt?
Yeah, look.
Yes.
Wow.
It's his great-grandmother's quilt.
It's what dude was wearing
at the Met Gala.
He was inspired by Macklemore.
I'm seeing the footage
of Rihanna going to the bodegas
in Harlem with ASAP
on a late night.
Paparazzi there, you know, taking a picture.
She's cool.
She make anything look cool.
So that shit look cool.
Or,
I could just hear that conversation between them,
I'm telling you.
Rihanna don't want to get out of bed.
Let me shut up.
I can't say that.
They in love.
I celebrate the love.
I champion the love. I'm so happy for them They in love. I celebrate the love. I champion the love.
I'm so happy for them both in love.
But when you follow all of that with, yo, my album is going to sound completely different
than y'all think it's going to sound, and then I really get to looking, I'm scared.
I'm scared.
I don't think we're getting an album anyway.
As I said, we're not getting an album.
I don't think she can make something whack.
I don't think she's going to be good. I think it's impossible for she can make something whack. I don't think it's going to be that.
I think it's impossible for her to make something whack.
I don't think she's going to put it out.
Let me be clear in that, Navy.
I don't think that Rihanna could do nothing whack.
She hasn't made anything whack yet.
In anything.
Anything.
But that don't mean whackness don't want to be in the area of Rihanna.
I want the sanctity of Rihanna to still be protected.
Even ASAP.
The sanctity of they love.
Protect that shit.
Get this goofy shit on.
Now, I know they kill me every time I say something about goofy shit about people in love.
But that's what love is supposed to make you do.
Yeah, of course.
So I support that.
That is true.
But as a music fan, I'm not talking about supporting love.
As a music fan, I'm at the edge of my seat.
I am.
I am.
And I do think we're getting an album at some point.
Maybe no time soon.
I don't think we're getting an album.
But like I said, any time I've seen or heard an artist say,
either I'm experimenting with something new,
or this is a new sound, or it's going to sound like nothing I've ever done before.
It's like they prepping you to be let down.
Meaning if you go into it thinking anything, you're going to be let down.
Yeah, but sometimes it's a, I'm doing my Jesus.
I'm doing my whatever experimental shit.
Like I said, she's done so many different things.
He doesn't say it.
You don't know what you're going to get with a Ye album.
He don't go out there and tell you,
hey, look, I'm experimenting with something new.
Yeah, he's damn firm in it.
Yeah, he just pop out and let you know,
this is it, and I'm doubling and tripling down on it.
I'm talking about the artist that'll come out and say,
yo, I'm doing something a little different this time
Yo that sound like she giving us
She about to give us power couple records
2088?
No
Don't disrespect like that man
Don't disrespect who?
Don't disrespect 2088 like that
See
What?
Alright man Let's go Let's move on man See. What?
All right, man.
All right.
Let's go.
Let's go. Oh, okay.
Let's go.
Let's move on, man.
Let's just go.
Let's just go.
You like that shit like that?
Yes.
Oh, my goodness.
Hell yes.
I need therapy, baby.
Hold up.
Y'all don't like 2088?
I couldn't get into it personally.
I wasn't even talking about them.
I didn't think about that.
I'm talking to these two, but walking hands, holding hands, walking down the fucking street.
Oh, my.
This is.
Come on.
Say something.
Somebody say something.
Please, somebody say something.
Come on.
Move on.
Love is dope.
Love is dope.
Love always wins.
All right.
All right, man. Man. Come on, let's move on. Love is dope. Love is dope. Love always wins. All right. All right, man.
Got some more topics
coming your way.
Speaking of love,
Jada and Will.
More love.
More love.
Yo, just cancel
the whole pod.
Cancel the whole pod.
Fuck it.
Jada and Will.
Will did an interview
with GQ about everything
yeah
that's what I got for you
yeah
everything
all the intimate details
about his marriage
the unconventional ways
in which they chose
to marry
or maintain their marriage
what else did he talk about
I don't know
there was a lot of
I'm trying to just provide i'm trying to not be so
grumpy anymore i'm not grumpy like i'd be in a good mood till y'all get to asking me about things
i told y'all two years ago enough was enough didn't i and everybody that i sat in the room
it was like oh joe what do you mean shut the fuck up you grumpy you crazy you crazy and now look yo just go chill out
yes
yo what is wrong
with people
just sit down
somewhere
relax
yo
Will Smith
fuck man
I love you
we all love Will
see I'm not
dope enough
to say the things
about the people
that I be saying
when the fans say that
yo right
I should shut the fuck up but I can't cause this shit has been lucrative for me I'm not dope enough to say the things about the people that I be saying. When the fans say that, you're right.
I should shut the fuck up.
But I can't because this shit has been lucrative for me.
I'm going to continue talking, too.
Yeah, and I was doing this broke, too, and y'all wasn't telling me shut up then.
Bitch.
Why do we have to hear about this?
That's fucked up to say that a man, I always say that men suppress themselves and they don't share
and they can't be vulnerable
and then Will Smith does it
and I say shut the fuck up.
It's hypocritical.
I do understand
it's hypocritical.
We're all hypocrites.
What do you suppose
anybody gains
from telling the intimate details
of your marriage
and the fights that you had
about birthday parties?
Who get, like,
I can see, like, okay.
Okay, go ahead.
If I say this,
then maybe someone else
going through it.
We're going to cancel this pun.
Just cancel the whole thing.
Going against Will Smith,
Andrea on the same day.
Will Smith, Rihanna.
Yeah, that's kind of what I get.
It's like their version
of, like, some fucking therapy. It's like their version of some fucking therapy.
It's like telling somebody,
yo, everything don't have to be the way you think it is.
Like traditional marriage doesn't necessarily have to be that.
You got to figure out what works for you.
This is what works for us.
It might not be the same for you.
It could be something totally different.
But I'm telling you what we went through,
where we got
to and why we are good now because of this that's what that's what i get from it it's just like they
just passing off information this is a quote from him we have given each other trust and freedom
with the belief that everybody has to find their own way and marriage for us can't be prison and i
don't suggest our road for anybody he added added, but the experience is that the freedoms
that we've given one another
and the unconditional support, to me,
is the highest definition of love.
Man.
Man, all right.
All right, Will.
No, no, I feel you on that.
It seems a little bit rock.
No, I smell you there.
It seems like a lot.
It seems like a lot. It seems like a lot.
It's like an open relationship, essentially.
Can I tell you what it sounds like to me?
Sure.
This was her plan.
All right, fuck it.
I'm going along with it.
It seems like she's been,
Will, I told you last part.
This foot, down.
That's all you got to do.
It seems like she's been pulling the strings,
calling the shots in the relationship.
And August still running around alive.
I mean, he should be alive.
But I mean, talk to him, not GQ.
Sound like he finally watched his Red Table interview back.
I got to address some of this shit.
I'm looking crazy out here in these streets.
Two years later.
It's like he was a little tardy, but he was like,
nah, I got to redirect some of that energy.
I got to really explain what was going on.
Kinky ass nigga, I ain't mad at him.
What?
I'm not mad at him.
I'm not mad at Will.
I love Will.
I'm kinky too, so fuck I'm going to say.
Hey, listen, whatever worked, man.
I don't think anybody need to know,
but if that was your reason for telling everybody.
Don't try to get out of the way of Pac birthday.
Pac got a birthday coming.
That's June.
He must have found out about our plans for his birthday this year.
Wait, somebody posted a meme, and I'm getting off of this topic.
When did this come out?
Recently, this weekend.
This weekend, it's new.
Pac's death anniversary.
Oh, okay.
That was this one.
Will Smith talks emancipation of the proclamation.
Oh, yeah, he was talking about slave movies, the Django.
He was giving it up.
Yeah, he did a lot.
He was talking about everything in this shit.
He did a lot.
Hey, man, shouts to Will.
Is this oversharing?
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, Will is only 52.
That's so young.
Yeah.
It's too young for this.
It's too young for him to come out with this memoir about his marriage and the undisclosed details of how they was getting down.
No, he don't.
Nigga, we've seen the August interview.
We've seen, we know what it, we know the rumors.
I got to get, oh yeah, but that's her platform.
I got to get my side up so niggas know what it is.
I got to get my shit off.
I went on her platform.
Memed.
With the red eyes, crying.
Memed.
Ain't nobody tell you.
You could have found a blue table.
You could have did your own shit.
Purple, maybe.
Will, you have my support as a man, as a husband, as a father.
Like, I'm sure he's going through some things.
He needs some support.
Yeah.
Why do you think he's talking to GQ?
I mean.
If she throw Pac a surprise party this year.
Or August.
No, August ain't getting no damn party.
Nah, Pac getting a party, though.
After his little shenanigans.
Yeah, he's supposed to.
Jaina Virgo, right?
She been playing it cool this whole time
she just been cool
Virgo
she said she don't know
how to love or whatever
August
no that's the line
that's the line
you don't know how to love
no I'm trying to learn
how to love
trying to learn
how to love better
you know what I mean
if I could only love better
that gets some compassion
from the crowd out there
shout out to Will
shout out to Jada
I'm certainly not trying
to disrespect anything
they got going on
no of course on but Will
but I mean at the same time
like
you made
for real
with all this
monetization stuff
and with all this
platform stuff
and with all these
tricks
and CGI
and all this shit
y'all doing
nobody seems
to have the time
to shut the fuck up.
Kyrie Irving.
Well, before we get to Kyrie,
New York hospitals
get rid of all nurses and doctors,
anybody that's not vaccinated.
This was Friday over the weekend.
That's nuts to me. It's not vaccinated. This was Friday over the weekend. That's nuts to me.
That's not surprising to me.
New York's largest hospital system,
Northwell Health,
began sacking staff
who refused to get their coronavirus vaccine shots
as Governor Kathy Hochul
refused to yield on her Monday deadline
for health worker
in collations.
I can't see.
Make it bigger.
Inoculations.
Inoculations.
Hochul, I might be jacking this name up stuck to her guns as many of as many of the state's major hospital and government employee unions continued their court battle to get the mandates
tossed i know a lot of people that work in this field and it definitely was a topic of conversation
for sure hell yes and it's in the uh schools too there's a lot of conversation. For sure. Hell yes. And it's in the schools too.
There's a lot of places.
But the hospitals?
Like, that's the front line.
Right.
Well, yeah, that's why I'm confused at your confusion.
It seemed like if I had to pick one spot
that people should be vaccinated,
it would be the hospitals.
No?
Yeah, but you talking about, they talk about 80,000 plus losing their jobs like you need
these people there that's the part I'm lost on like you I don't think under no circumstance can
you just fire off everybody in the hospitals well it's not everybody it's you're right it's not
everybody but like I said 80, 000 i don't know the exact
number it said 86 a lot of people i wonder what the percentage is that's a lot though it's a lot
of people for sure and you need the hospitals like like that's right in a pandemic that's what i'm
saying but if they need more workers they'll run some program or pass some law that says you can
use unvaccinated workers for the next two or three
days that's what they did um last year around around uh when quarantine first started for the
way yeah essential essential stuff people or yeah i just don't get how you just at all right at
midnight all y'all out of here well no they they have been telling people at least this is how it
is in school districts i'm sure it's the same in the hospitals. Like, yo, this is coming.
This is coming.
This is hospitals in schools.
See,
those are the two places where I would assume they would implement this.
Yeah.
Military schools.
We can't play with the kids and they're sending out those shock waves of,
of the headline saying,
Hey, it's safe for the kids to take the vaccination.
Kids ages five through 11.
Like they said,
they letting you know what their agenda is.
Yeah.
And you know, they was going to make it to the kids
at some point because they force feeding the shit on everybody.
Now regardless of how you feel about it,
you have to be aware
that to be a part of society, at least
in New York starting now,
that has to happen. You have to be vaccinated.
I was out last
night with Berg and a few of his people.
He's supposed to be coming by at some point today.
And he was like, yo, what's going on? Let's's go get something to eat let's turn up for a little bit
i was like yeah where you want to go he's like well i got my man with me he's not vaccinated
he ain't got no card so and i'm like well dinky don't talk to me about a turn up then
in new york we can't move around if you don't have a card so at least a fake card let me ask
you so because i know you you frequent a couple New York spots. Once they pass that, you got to show your frequency.
Every now and then, when I get a minute to myself, I'll step out.
Frequent just means go to.
No, frequent means a lot.
No, frequently means a lot.
In any case.
Wait, frequent doesn't mean a lot?
I think it means you go there.
You go.
Yeah, but I think it means you go there more than a lot.
Yeah, exactly.
Thank you very much, but go ahead.
You visit a couple spots. There you go. I like that. You visit a Yeah, but I think it means you go there more than a day. Yeah, exactly. Thank you very much. But go ahead. You visit a couple spots.
There you go.
I like that.
You visit a few.
Be in and out.
When you're bored, don't spend too much time or money there.
No, no, no.
You don't stay there long.
Don't give your phone a mount.
No dates.
No fucking.
No.
No dick showing.
No rubbing, touching.
Okay.
No, none of that.
No, none of that.
Well, I wanted to ask you, though.
So, like, even the turnip spots, they make you show your card to walk in the
door yes yes yeah even the dive bars and a lot of drink if they don't have bouncers a lot of
them have bouncer that do it right at the door but if they don't bartender before they give you
a drink let me see your thingy thing and a lot of the strippers and the bartenders are against
the vaccination so we're seeing how that plays out in that field now they got one bartender per
bar they don't normally do that.
Not so many patrons in there.
Maybe they come really late.
Like, businesses are being affected by this rule.
It's not just the hospitals.
Wow.
I didn't know it was like that in New York.
I don't, you know, partake in New York that much.
Shit, we was out this weekend.
It wasn't, that shit was packed.
Them bars was packed up.
Maybe I fell for the conditioning. I really don't want to be around nobody that's not vaccinated.
Yeah.
I don't.
I mean, I've seen.
Unless it's an outdoor type of shit.
Oh, I don't even want to do that.
Yeah, I don't want to be around you.
I don't trust you niggas.
None of them.
And it's crazy because it could be conditioning because they say you can still get it.
Why would it bother us if a person is not vaccinated?
We can all still catch it, but they may die.
You know what I'm saying?
No, no, that's not what I've seen.
I've seen people argue that side, but I've literally seen the opposite.
I've seen the unvaccinated carry the shit to people that are vaccinated and going out of their way to avoid all smoke.
Okay. And then they catch it. And because of their way to avoid all smoke. Okay.
And then they catch it.
And because of their preexisting health, they pass.
Now, granted, yes, you unvaccinated, you good, you got the antibodies,
you ain't been affected, cool.
But that don't have nothing to do with your loved ones,
and we don't know what everybody's preexisting health condition is.
Right.
I agree.
It's not like that's written down in people's bios.
Correct. condition is right i agree it's not like that's written down in people's bios correct so they just
they they saying everybody take this shit i'm assuming for that reason because we don't know
how us carrying it could affect the next person so that's important for society okay what i'm
saying is a little different give it to me all right so let's use us three for example you got
it we're all vaccinated right well yeah but let's just say for this for what I'm trying to say Parks you're not vaccinated okay
Joe you and I are
so the way it's explained
they tell you to get the vaccine
so that the symptoms
and everything aren't as severe
correct
and it lowers your chances
of symptoms being severe
or getting it all
from what I'm being told
from reading all these fucking articles yeah now you can let's say you out somewhere else you can
still get it even if you're vaccinated yes so i'm saying is being around an unvaccinated person
knowing that i could still get it it's almost like if you're not vaccinated you're putting yourself at risk i could still pick it up from somewhere else it won't
affect me as bad if my loved ones are vaccinated it don't affect them as bad this is i'm just going
off the information they're giving us but you not being vaccinated if you catch it it could be
possibly more severe for you and fatal for you so in that that case, I would be like, hey, if you don't want it, but why for you
if you are already vaccinated?
Because you increase my probability of catching it
and with my pre-existing symptoms,
you don't know how that could affect me.
That's where I'm a little lost.
Yes, I could still catch this on my own anywhere.
Yes, yes.
And hopefully, my antibodies along with my vaccine
and my mask and whatever precautions I'm taking is enough to get me through.
I guess my question is, are they saying like there's a deadlier version that you can catch from someone who is unvaccinated or something?
No.
Or is it all the same?
No, they just learn it in real time.
They learn it in real time.
To me, if that's the case, if I'm vaccinated and I can still catch it elsewhere or from in here, one of you could have picked it up somewhere else and still catch it.
But me being vaccinated, whether I catch it from a vaccinated or unvaccinated person, it all depends on my pre-existing conditions, et cetera, et cetera.
Right.
Then if you choose not to get vaccinated, that's on you.
You playing with your life. See see it's not that simple like and i know people that's kind of i'm just trying to understand but that's
kind of what it's said but when it's dad and daughter it's not that simple when it's mother
and son it can't be that simple when it's uh two sisters aging together it can't be that simple
when like it can't be that simple with with and we know people that have their moms in nursing
homes right now correct so your belief could be your belief.
But what you going to do?
Not see your mom?
You're not going to hug your mom ever again?
You're not going to go in there?
Like, everybody is faced with how the decision affects them.
But everybody will be affected.
Everybody will be affected.
I know too many people that, hey, we're going to sit right here in this house.
I think about Fred the Godson all the time.
many people that hey we're gonna sit right here in this house i think about fred the godson all the time because he being somebody who may have been overweight may have had pre-existing health
conditions i picture him being under his best behavior to try to avoid that shit right and he
got it and died right rest in peace prayers to his family his family, his wife, his children. But I know people that because of how they live,
they're doing their best to stay clear of any and anybody.
But you can't when there are millions of people running around saying,
hey, well, you can still catch it.
Hey, me not having it don't keep you no safer.
Like, nah, if I'm Fred DeGon, I don't want to hear that shit.
In that case, then put me in a bunker somewhere.
Keep all people away because now it's a matter of life and death.
I don't want to get too passionate here because your beliefs are your beliefs.
Consult with your local physician.
Get with your people.
Don't listen to no podcast about life and death matters.
Please, please do what's best for you.
Unfortunately, we keep having to have
this conversation because it keeps affecting different areas now we got Kyrie Irving saying
yo I'm not taking no vaccine uh this earth is how many years old and it's giving us all the remedies
that we need why do I have to do this and now as a result the nets are saying well we don't know
how many games Kyrie Irving can play well I believe it was, I think it was Andrew Wiggins, if I'm not mistaken.
The Wiggster.
They already said he can't play Golden State home games.
Well, Golden State didn't want him to play none of the games anyway.
So, I mean, not a huge loss there.
That's horrible.
Andrew Wiggins, I love you.
I'm sorry, man.
That's fucked up.
That's fucked up. That wasn't
right. But you know they've been trying to trade
him for a bag of Doritos for a little while now.
But yeah. Hey, Philly called up Golden State
and was like, you want Ben Simmons? They was like, no.
Nah.
No. Keep his ass in Philly.
Oh, man. I don't know the answer.
I'm not a fucking doctor. I just know
that it's going to be difficult to move around
And I do feel like
In many of the cases
I won't say a lot of the cases
People are being anti
To be anti
I agree with that
They don't even have a real reason for it
It's just not a government said do it
I'm not doing it
But I do everything else the government says
I got every other vaccine they gave out And I don't know man right i'm not doing it but i do everything else the government says but i'm not gonna do i got
every other vaccine they gave out and i don't know man you can do what you want with your body
but it's gonna be difficult to move around that's see and that was my stance on it's like
if i if if it was yo if you have the vaccine you can't catch it or transmit it we know that
then i'm like no everybody needs to get it but if i
understand the other side if somebody says yo whether i got the vaccine or don't got the vaccine
you could still catch it and i choose not to in that case i say you know what you do what you
want to do in thoughts and prayers if i hope it don't get to that point for you but if it does
that's the decision you made you live with with it. Hey, the Knicks,
if y'all can get something done
with Kyrie
for unvaccinated Kyrie
where he could play
in like only the playoffs,
I'll take it.
Hey, they tried.
They was talking about
Ben for Kyrie
and then KD shut that down.
As he should.
We'd have took that though.
He should have shut that down.
Kyrie, Kyrie, Kyrie,
you could come on over
to Madison Square Garden for like three months out the year.
I'll take it.
Ben would work in New Jersey, in Brooklyn.
He would work anywhere where he don't got to shoot the ball.
Anywhere with a scorer.
Exactly.
Hey, you told the Sixers, yo, dog, don't even fly over here.
Yeah, that was nice.
Don't even come talk to me.
My decision is made.
The players was like, yo, we going to go out there and meet with him.
And if y'all going to fly, don't bring him beat.
I don't fuck with him. Y' we gonna go out there and meet with him. And if y'all gonna fly, don't bring him beat. I don't fuck with him.
Y'all seen how I was this year with him.
Y'all gonna bring him out here to my Malibu shit with Maya Jai and Maya Jump?
No.
No.
No, no.
No, stay over there.
You, what's the other nigga name that took the money?
What's Kyle Ford name?
Lice can do.
Lice can do.
Tobias Harris.
Tobias Harris.
Tobias Harris. Round of applause for Michael Porter Jr.
Got the bag
There's a few people that were sick this weekend
I was one of them
When Michael Porter Jr.
Signed this five year extension
For over 200 million dollars
I was home sick
As a Knick fan
But not as sick as a Knicks fan,
but not as sick as Kevin Knox.
Been a lot of talk about Dennis Schroeder and all of that money that he turned down.
But man, if I'm the Knicks, I am sick to my stomach
that Michael Porter Jr. was able to float on by down to pick 13th or 14th
to the Denver Nuggets.
He's worth every penny of this.
Yeah.
He is.
Once he got past those back issues and the injury problems, he is worth every penny of
this.
He is for real.
And I just have nightmares about what him next to R.J. Barrett
and Julius Randle looks like because he's that instant offense that you need.
And he don't seem to be scared at the moment.
He was in Denver saying, yo, why y'all keep giving Jamal Murray
and Jovich the ball?
Like they're not Jamal Murray and Jovich.
I know.
But I like that.
Yeah.
See, I like that type of moxie, that confidence.
Like, yo, why are y'all giving it to these?
I'm here as a rookie.
Or a second-year player, man.
Congratulations to
Michael Porter Jr.
Big deal.
Big deal.
What you think about
Josh Gordon coming back again?
I don't care.
The Chiefs?
I don't care.
Yeah, I don't...
I don't care.
I'll tell you what,
he's the luckiest,
probably the luckiest athlete
I've ever met.
No, he's talented.
He's amazing.
He's the man.
He's the man.
I said he's not talented, but you don't get that many chances.
Part of being good is being lucky.
Part of being good is being lucky.
They make examples out of you.
Josh Gordon.
Josh Gordon, he's for real.
And hopefully now he'll be able to smoke his weed in peace.
That's true.
Some of these players, we've heard a lot from them about how weed,
Some of these players, we've heard a lot from them about how weed, recreational or medical, has helped them with healing, with sleep.
And I think that's why he's been, quote-unquote, lucky.
I think a lot of people probably don't look at weed as a criminal thing.
Behind closed doors.
Obviously, the laws are the laws and the league's policies are the policies.
But I'm sure a lot of people are like, come on, fam. The league is private.
It's privately owned.
Right.
Look, man, my cousin Darnell played offensive line for the Steelers.
Show off.
Hey, shouts.
Shit.
Family doing shit.
He still plays with him?
Nah.
He played 08.
No, he blew his knee out in the offseason.
Got a ring, though.
Got a ring.
First day of training camp, blew his knee out right after the Super Bowl.
Damn.
But never recovered?
No.
He tried out for the Jets
and the Giants
and I think the Patriots
and now he's a coach.
Awesome.
He's a coach in Texas.
Nice.
But he used to tell me,
yo,
after every game,
he was like,
yo,
it feels like
I was in a car accident
and ejected out of the car.
Damn.
Like,
he was like,
we,
him and his offensive line at the time, he's like, yo, we drink
to just numb it.
But, yeah,
I can imagine a lot of athletes, especially
football players, I gotta, like, yo,
you're colliding with people nonstop.
Head first sometimes. You soaring
shit the next day. I bet you can't
walk after a football game. Yeah.
Like, when he, I didn't, I never,
we don't think of that.
Yes, we do.
I'm sore now from going up and down
the stairs in the house.
You got to elevate
the crib, son.
Yeah, but you really feel
like a lazy sack of shit
calling the elevator
to get from one floor
to the next.
I mean, I do it.
I was getting ready
to say hold up.
I do it,
but I mean,
I am.
You walk in the crib,
I'm walking up the steps.
Where you going?
No, I'm in the elevator.
I am weary about it.
My clean lady
done been stuck in there about five times.
Oh, no.
Oh, that's why you don't fuck with me.
You don't get stuck in there.
I wouldn't want to be stuck in there.
I don't get stuck in there.
I wouldn't care.
I'm fine.
Where's Joe?
I'm going to go to sleep.
Let me see.
No, I'm stuck in the elevator.
No, no, no.
Give me any reason to sleep without being interrupted.
Wait, you tell me.
Because that's what my day is like.
You don't get to sleep or chill,
or my whole day is talking to somebody always.
It's always some work shit or some business shit
or your parents or your kids,
your significant other or your whole roster of women.
You have to talk to people.
Friends.
Friends.
Oh, my God.
I got friends I ain't spoke to in months,
but I'm still, all my time is occupied talking
to people.
So, yeah, if I can get locked in my elevator for a few hours, fuck y'all.
Yo, Joe, I need you.
Yo, craziest thing that's just occurred.
Yeah.
I'm in my elevator.
It's like when my phone dies sometimes, I'm like, it's going to be dead then.
Yeah.
It's dead now.
Sorry.
Can't allow that.
I never, my phone has never died.
Oh, man.
You're stressed out
Nah let it die sometimes man
Just let it die
Just the thought of that
Fuck me up
Like what?
My phone dead?
No way
Or when you lose your phone
Like the few days of peace
If you don't just rush
To get it back on
Days?
Never
You should try it
I don't even know how
To lose my phone
I don't know how
Berg think he lost his phone
Last night
Mind me back.
He told me, yo, let me fucking tear the car apart and find it.
No.
It's in there.
It's in there, buddy.
I don't tell you.
You don't know how to hit it.
Go buy a phone.
It's over.
It's over now.
Oh, Berg was so cute.
I can't wait till he gets here.
Fun guy.
Fun guy.
I need to see.
I need to issue for that next segment.
What's that?
Talk about how sick Berg is.
Let me turn my mic up a little bit.
Coming through a little low, buddy.
People be telling me I'm too loud on the pod and I'll be trying to get quieter.
Am I too loud or are y'all not loud enough?
No, you're just loud.
Use your voice.
God damn it.
I'm going to get killed this pod for my takes.
Yeah.
So?
But somebody had to say this shit.
Or maybe not.
Maybe that's why nobody else said it.
I'm going to quit podcasting because I'd be home thinking about this shit, man.
Y'all niggas out there just, man.
You came in some big armies, bud.
Yeah. No, I didn't. I'm in the armies, though. out there just, man. You came in some big armies, bud. Yeah.
No, I didn't.
I'm in the armies, though.
So?
Yeah, so.
Dishonorable discharge.
For real.
I just know what love does to artists, man.
I hear you.
It could get you.
I don't.
Nobody is bigger than that.
If you in love, you could go out there looking in love, which is cool.
Right. But just maybe not in the music. Yeah, you know. Listen. All right. You could go out there looking in love Which is cool Right
But just maybe not in the music
Yeah, you know
Listen, alright
Let me get to it
Summer Madness was over the weekend
Battle Rap fans
I know y'all hate when I talk battle rap
I know y'all hate it
Y'all tweet me mean things like,
yo, who gave this guy a platform
to discuss things?
And that's when I say, all of us
have a platform to discuss things.
Y'all are fucking idiots,
y'all that say that. I hate the name
call. Everybody has a
platform to say shit. Don't get mad
at me and mine. What takes until they get
mad about? Huh? What takes until they get mad about? They just get mad at whatever I got to say. They want me get mad at me and mine. What takes to get you mad about? Huh? What takes to get mad about?
They just get mad at whatever I got to say.
They want me to just shut the fuck up.
And sometimes I agree.
But they don't want you to shut the fuck up, though.
Because they want to hear.
They want to hear.
They want to hear.
They want to hear.
It's true.
You can't win.
Yo, now that these albums is dropping, I see y'all coming back around trying to see what
the fuck is going on, phony asses.
But anyway, back to Summer Madness.
Mm-hmm.
Plenty of Saturdays.
I spent a good $50, $60, whatever the price is,
and had the time of my life.
Shout out to what Caffeine and URL have done in conjunction.
Oh, yes.
Gunshot.
Gunshot somewhere.
I have to spend more money.
So many Saturdays as a lonely man in a house
with no women to be intimate with,
bored, no day party, no dinner, no plans.
And I had battle rap.
And it eased me through the Saturday.
No sports.
Men with no sports, no football, no basketball,
shit fucked up out there.
Roster acting crazy.
A bunch of texts about shit that they think.
I think it's funny how battle rap was my escape
many Saturdays during this quarantine smack bees.
Salute to y'all.
And while everybody killed in summer madness,
that's not true.
That's not true.
Someone didn't kill.
I take it back.
Easy and Chess probably easily battle of the night.
Gunshot and round of applause.
I said round of applause.
Look at me off memory.
Round of applause to those two gentlemen.
Up and coming monsters.
Easy killed his last showing.
Chess kills normally when I see him.
I wasn't so shocked that they had Battle of the Night.
I saw a lot of people typing Battle of the Night before it even got started.
Hats off, salute to those two gentlemen, right?
Cool.
Let's move that to the side.
Mook and Reed. I was never that to the side. Mook and
Reed. I was never
watching y'all. Yeah, never.
I didn't even see it. I didn't see it, but I heard it was
not particularly... I wasn't watching it.
Mook, you my
man. You know we have these types of in-depth
talks face-to-face,
sometimes in an airport, sometimes not.
I wasn't watching, y'all.
No disrespect.
I didn't want to see that.
I didn't ask for that.
I didn't care none about that.
Nope.
So I didn't see it.
I still didn't see it.
Daylight had a pretty funny review about it.
But I didn't see it Hollow and Shine
Two people I enjoy
That was cool
That was cool
Calico and Geechee
I love that
I missed it
I love that
I love that
I love that
Arsenal Lou Castro I missed that. I love that. I love that. I love that. Arsenal,
Lou Castro,
all that's cool.
Who won that one?
Ice.
Ice, who won? Who won the Arsenal battle, Ice?
Oh, two won the Arsenal.
I gave Lou Castro a second round.
I turn Instagram live on.
They're killing me
for having stains on my shit.
Fuck you, niggas.
What?
The fuck is y'all talking about?
Listen.
Jersey, Jersey, where my gunshot at?
Hold up.
Hold up.
Hold up.
Yeah, we need a bit more.
Hold.
Hey, Saban, somebody, is there an iPhone holding here?
Because I'm going to press this gunshot a lot.
Jersey, Jersey, Jersey.
You're fine.
So, my man, this was the surf show.
Yeah.
What's up?
What's up?
Who said something?
What's up?
Who said something?
What's up?
What's good?
What's good?
What's happening?
What's happening?
I didn't see it.
Oh, you missed that one?
I missed it.
Whoa.
Stop the press.
Yo, y'all been loud.
Y'all been loud and I've been silent because I love surf.
Surf is like really family to me.
Like for real, for real.
Surf, what up?
You know that because I did a 10-minute record with this kid
when I was trying to retire.
Y'all don't understand how much that took.
On the down part of it. No, I was quitting. I was finished. retire. Y'all don't understand how much that took. On the down part of it.
No, I was quitting.
I was finished.
And here he comes.
Yo, I got this idea.
10 minutes, 24, 24, 10 minutes long.
I'm like, Surf, suck my fucking...
Right?
Surf is family to me.
I talk to his mom when he go up,
when he do something stupid.
He's family to me to the point, like,
he's so stupid
that i have lost sleep over surf is what i'm saying y'all know that some of y'all know right
and boy he's been trash i've told him that yo man you can't even defend it he's been so trash
i ain't been talking about him.
I skipped the topic.
No, see, I hit circle.
Come in there, you ain't got your third.
Nope.
Yo, I feel like me and him been going back with this
since he battle conceded when he was living with me,
and you battle rappers going to have to start paying me
to talk about me, and he's fucking bad.
What the fuck is up with y'all?
It's been a million years of
joe button's couch joe button's house joe button shut the fuck up the fuck god damn it i hate you
niggas but back to surf i already i already killed surf has bad, so I haven't been talking about him. But when I say bad, busy with life shit.
Dude been getting shot at.
Shot.
Shot.
Going to jail.
He got shot in the daytime and chased the dude.
Wait, am I even supposed to say that?
He's an idiot.
He done got pulled over with shit.
He's a fucking nut.
But I know that.
So when he don't show up with a third, it'd be like,
nigga be happy he here with all the shit he dealing with.
I'm shocked he even still rapping and battle rapping
and doing all this other type of shit.
Cool.
And Jon Jon.
I'm keeping this on this for a little bit.
Because there's a grand lesson to be learned here.
Jon Jon, who has been great and won many battles and battled plenty of legendary URL dudes, has been calling surf out for years.
Led a lot of y'all to believe that they were of the same pedigree, of the same caliber.
I ran into John John in Atlanta and me and him had a brief exchange
about surf where it looked like i ain't even know it was smoke i was like god damn i ain't know you
niggas like disliked each other and shit right and then they took the battle here's the battle
we waiting to see it i was waiting to see it i'm like damn surf can't play around on this stage
tonight because john john been waiting a long time.
He been calling you out.
He been tweeting.
He been disrespecting Jersey.
He's disrespecting the set on Neighborhood.
Whatever's going on.
I don't know.
But boy, did Surf set that straight.
A little bit of straightening.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's a lot of straightening. No, no, no, no. A lot of straightening. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's a lot of straightening.
No, no, no, no.
A lot of straightening.
Nigga, the fuck is you talking about?
There's a lesson to be learned here.
Jon Jon.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Yo, boy, man.
Why he cook him like that?
This was bad.
It was bad.
This was bad.
You know what?
It was bad because Jon Jon's second round, he came to fight.
Like, he had some shit in there.
I ain't here to just shit on Jon Jon.
He showed up.
But surf is surf when he surf.
And I call surf and surf say that that's been his point.
His point is point is yo I
don't care how bad I've looked if you know that I have a 44 inch vert and if I go jump for real
you can't jump higher the end real simple John John can't jump with me. Why was that ever a question?
And when surf shows up like this.
Nothing you can do with this.
There's nothing you can do with this at all.
Medium rare.
This was how did you want your meat prepared?
You got to watch this again.
You got to watch this again. You got to watch this again.
Jon Jon is like six foot five
looking doofy in the face
with Surf up there
talking to all his street gang.
So you can't let Surf
get in that street gang bag.
Because now,
what you going to do?
Surf got to come up here.
Surf got to come up here.
That's it.
Surf got to come up here.
We got to talk about it.
I ain't seen Surf in a long time.
You got to,
listen man,
leave certain people alone is the point. That's the point. got to come up here. We got to talk about it. I ain't seen Surf in a long time. You got to, listen, man, leave certain people alone is the point.
That's the point.
Just leave certain people alone.
Let sleeping dogs lie.
Let people just kill themselves.
That's what I used to say when niggas would be about to play the Spurs and start talking shit.
It's like, fam, you want to give Greg Popovich some incentive to go in the locker room and get those guys riled up?
Like, why?
Listen, you know I always say there's a Hove bar for everything, right?
True.
But Hove tell you, do not bark up that tree.
That tree will fall on you.
John John, I don't know why your advisors ain't forewarned you.
That wasn't the one.
You thought, you thought.
Yo, you know how that was bad?
Oh, shit, that's the one.
That wasn't even in Jersey.
They in Houston.
Yeah. That's how you know this is bad. They was in Houston and he was bad? Oh, shit, that's the one. That wasn't even in Jersey. They in Houston. Yeah.
That's how you know this is bad.
They was in Houston and he got cooked like that.
In the way game, yeah.
Bro, the crowd chanting.
Girls laughing.
Damn.
Girls laughing.
Anytime I hear the crowd chanting 3-0 in a battle.
Anytime a dude gets to sipping his water like that.
I know that look, man.
Jon Jon, we got to talk to you.
He gave you the business up there.
Turn the hat around.
Damn.
Surf is all the way in his bag.
When he do this, he's hard to beat.
He look comfortable up there.
Look at him.
Look at him.
Proud of that guy, man.
I had to hit him and say, yo, I'm proud of you and I love you, man.
That's it.
I try to mind my business, but I'm happy for that guy.
Round of applause. Let me get a round of applause for Surf. you, man. That's it. I try to mind my business, but I'm happy for that guy. Round of applause. Let me
get the round of applause for Safe.
He did that. Jersey. Nah,
he did what he was supposed to do up there.
Start talking that gang
shit up there on Jon Jon. Jon Jon
was up there wearing glasses looking silly in the
face. Oh my God.
Yo, let's move on, man. Y'all gonna give me a trouble. Yo, let's move on.
Y'all are going to get me in trouble.
Yo, this podcast is canceled.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you what's happening.
This is over.
Well, I mean, you can't get canceled for this.
You can't get canceled for this.
This is probably my seventh opinion this part is getting us.
Oh, well, yeah, yeah.
The earlier ones.
That's trouble here.
I was hacked.
Yo, that works
That wasn't me
I would use that
Yeah stick by that
Yo word
Alright
Alright what else we got
You wanna talk about
Kanye kicking
Chris Brown off a song
Let's talk about it
I mean listen
Chris came out
and said all that shit
calling him all types of names
because he took the verse
and said oh you want to
leave me on the background
so he came out
saying all this shit
alright
yeah take that off too
take the background off too
enjoy
go find God
why are these people
so petty man
why did
but this is some petty shit
but just why are they this petty?
I'm not mad at them.
Very good question.
I like the version with Chris, like the original version.
Yeah, I got the original.
I think that's what, version two?
Yeah, I need to line them all up and start chopping the pieces I like.
That's what we've been doing.
Taking versions we like from here, making our own songs.
Yeah.
All right, Kanye took Chris Brown off of the New Again record.
And they say Drake made some changes to his album as well.
Oh, for real?
Yeah, minor changes, subtle changes.
And he took KC off of Keep My Spirit Alive and sang the part himself.
That's just some Kanye shit.
I'm not mad at it.
Hey, man.
It was like, I could have did this it. Hey, man. He was like,
I could have did this better.
Yeah.
But thanks for giving me the words.
Yeah.
Here's your pump.
Catch you on the next flip.
And I'm going to do it again.
Yeah.
This is Kanye shit, man.
Yeah, he about to go find
some more shit
he could have just done himself.
All them features
going to be gone.
This is about to be
a Kanye solo album.
He about to just
keep adding him.
I'm keeping the one
with all the features.
Go ahead, yeah.
Lined up.
It's yay, man.
He's gonna do some shit
that just left field.
It works.
We was playing this album
this weekend in the backyard,
man.
That shit is,
I still love it.
I played the album
in the car ride.
Turned all the way up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Still love it.
Yeah.
It seemed like every time I play it, my number goes up a little higher.
Yeah.
Where's it sitting now?
It's like eight.
Started at six.
I don't even want to say that because they're going to kill me.
What album?
Donda.
Oh, come on, man.
Donda's up to about eight.
But again, like I told you, I've done the same thing with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
I did not like it on the first listen.
I hated it.
Because half of it was leaks that I already heard already.
I'm used to the leaks.
But again, in this instance, I've had most of this album prior to it actually releasing.
And we saw it in the stadium.
Yeah.
And I have every version.
So version one, version two, version three, I'll go back and listen to them.
So when I get the final product, it's like, eh, I don't really, it's all right.
Like the original first.
I feel you.
Yep, I fall in love with certain versions of songs.
And then they sound different on the final version.
I don't like it as much.
Demoitis.
Demoitis is real.
Did anyone see the Raising Canaan finale
I did
as well as the BMF debut
I didn't watch the BMF debut
I did watch the Raising Canaan finale
and
my 50s great
Raising Canaan was really
I enjoyed Raising Canaan
BMF
yeah they got me
I'm in
I'm in period if it's. I'm in, period.
If it's 50 Cent,
you're getting me
for at least
the first five episodes.
I saw a tweet.
Someone said that
50's making a
Marvel Universe
for drug dealers.
But he said that.
Oh.
He calls it the
Power Universe.
That's what it says
every episode,
Power Universe.
Oh, okay.
Power never ends.
So yeah,
I'm going to branch off
and do this
and then do this
and then do this.
This is dope. But the Kaden finale, I'm going to branch off and do this and then do this and then do this. This is dope.
But the Kanan finale, I didn't predict any of that.
I like when I can't predict an episode.
I hate when I can call every step and be right the whole way.
Then I feel like it was lazy.
I shouldn't be able to call it all.
So I didn't think things would work out that way.
I'm already thinking about next season, what's going to happen.
Yeah, this was a great show. I'm already thinking about next season, what's going to happen. Yeah.
This was a great show.
I enjoyed it, man.
As far as the power,
aside from season one or two of power,
this is probably my favorite power universe season.
Yeah.
The Tariq one,
I'm cool on.
It wasn't terrible,
but it was just,
eh, for me.
It was cool.
Acting was really bad in a couple.
It was better than the last three seasons of Power.
I disagree with that.
I haven't seen Tariq.
I haven't seen any of the Kanan episodes,
and I haven't seen BMF as of yet.
That's why I'm trying not to talk about you.
I am going to watch BMF as well as Kanan.
Well, you said you were waiting for Kanan to end to watch all of them.
Yes.
So it ended.
So now you got your 10.
You can run those.
So at least we can talk about that.
BMF just started.
So this is one.
Yeah.
And then he got
probably 10 episodes of this
which will take us into November.
Yeah.
And then he has
the Tariq season 2
starting in November.
Oh, God.
He's on the next post.
Bro, he's on his Mona shit.
Like, literally,
he's going to have
something on stars
every weekend for the entire year.
Because after, so November, the Tariq season two, that's going to run you to about January,
where he's going to come in with the next show, which is the Tommy.
Oh, they're doing Tommy one too?
They're doing Tommy.
And it just says early 2022 now.
So they might take a week or two.
That's going to be good.
Where Tommy goes to LA and what happens out there. I'm watching anything 50 Cent. That sounds lit. Tommy and it's just as early 2022 now so they might take a week or two to be good where Tommy
goes to LA what happens I'm watching anything 50 cents he's not playing and I like I like that like
just to see him thrive in this world like this and keep a show that ain't easy not not at all
and for life still exists yeah for life still exists like when he say this green light gang
shit he is not playing I'm getting these shows
green lit.
I'm getting bags
and I'm making stars
out of people.
I'm doing this.
Not mad at it, bro.
Yeah, that's dope as hell.
And, you know,
a lot of people
don't fuck with 50
for whatever reason
so he don't really get
the flowers back.
There's a lot of reasons
to not fuck with 50.
I said, whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They have their reasons.
Yeah.
But I'm just saying,
this is something
that should be praised.
Absolutely.
Because what happens is the Emmys don't give him any looks.
You get what I'm saying?
Nobody praises him for this shit.
So that's where, again, where it comes from.
We got to big up our own.
This is something to hold in a high regard right here.
Yeah.
Because he's killing this shit.
He is.
And has been.
Yeah, and has been.
I think people are just coming around to see it now.
But he's been on the run for a while.
And it's not no easy shit.
Like, the shit looks good, sounds good.
Like, it's not janky on any level.
And I'm hearing Lil' Meech did a phenomenal job.
Again, I haven't seen it.
But I'm hearing he smoked it.
Even if he don't smoke it, being able to play the role,
you know who your dad is, was, is.
Is.
Is.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
The actor is.
The actor is Meech's son.
No shit.
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
That to me is amazing.
Just that.
I don't care how he does in the role.
I am getting paid on a national television show to portray my father who's.
His father. Who his father is.'s swaggy that's crazy i would have looked at it i would have looked at it yeah different interesting amazing i think
there's a lot done back there actually hell yeah well even before when you made the comment what he
said what um uh low me said on his instagram about like he doesn't hold any you
know you were saying there's no resentment there all of that like pops gave you a lane even in this
yeah that shit is amazing yo and even that like everything all around the board everything about
it that's crazy this this is this is my version of the American dream.
Yeah. It is.
I don't have anything else,
gentlemen. I'm cool.
Yeah. Ish won't hit me
back in his personal matter. He skipped some of these
topics via text.
We wish him nothing but the best
and hopefully he'll be here shortly.
Nas got the key to the city of
Queens. September 23rd is key to the city of Queens.
September 23rd is Nas Day.
Round of applause.
Much deserved.
Well deserved.
That is everything.
Props to Nas.
I like hearing any time I hear artists get the key to the city, just recognition.
Outside of the normal.
He's been repping and doing a lot for Queens for a very long time, so this is long overdue. Just recognition. Like, outside of the normal.
He's been repping and doing a lot for Queens for a very long time,
so this is long overdue.
I'm happy to see all this great shit happening for Nas.
Yeah.
Or to see him be more visible about it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Because I assume Nas has always been great.
Absolutely. But I guess with some of his investments panning out
and just him being more vocal now,
like we get to hear
on like two Nas albums
in like a year,
year and a half.
Like, come on.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Of that magnitude?
Yeah, yeah.
Of that magnitude?
Two great Nas albums.
Yeah.
Back to back.
And y'all know,
y'all know how I give it up.
Come on.
Nas, I wasn't,
I wasn't on a Nas train.
These were,
that's my favorite album,
rap album this year.
I was about to say
I'm not
I don't have
I'm not counting Nas
Out of album of the year
No
He's up there
Him and Cole
Are probably my favorite two
That came out this year
Trev Rich
I know he won't be
Considered in that
Class obviously
Cause
Nas has
Rap album of the year
To me
Not mad at that take
Cole's album
I'm with you
Is right there.
Nas and Cole are fighting for me.
There's another rap album
that crept up on me
that I'm leaving out of this.
I'll get back to it.
Yeah, when I look at my 20,
I'm going to have a couple.
I'll have to go back.
Because I got some in there
that, I mean,
they might not be album of the year,
but they're going to be high on my list
and I'm going to get killed for it.
It's cool.
I know that game already.
All right, let me slow us down and get us out of here, man.
All right?
Still on my R&B wave.
I want to love you.
Mic check, one, two, one, two.
For the lovers out there, you heard.
I want to love you.
Every day, every night We'll be together
With a roof over our head
We'll send a shelter
Of my single bed
Is this love
Is this love
Is this love Is this love, is this love, is this love, is this love that I'm feeling?
Is this love, is this love, is this love, is this love that I'm feeling Mmmmm
Ohhhhh
Mmmmm
Oh I'm
I'm willing but though I'm able
So I
Lay my cards on your table
I wanna love you
Wanna just love and treat you right
I wanna love you
Every day and every night
And we'll be together
With the roof over our head
We'll stay in the shelter
Of my single bed
Is this love, is this love, is this love, is this love that I'm feeling?
Bring covers back!
Bring covers back!
When done right. When done right. More covers. More covers when done right. And this love is, this love is, this love is, this love is, this love is, that I need.
And oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I am willing and I'm able
So I lay my cause on your table Oh, is this love? Is this love?
Is this love?
Is this love that I'm feeling?
Ellen Stone, is this love?
Is this love?
Sounds like they're in the same room.
Huh?
Sounds like that wasn't a plug-in piano.
It sounds like they're in the same room.
She's sitting on the piano type shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, no, that's hard.
Or he.
He smoked it. Shout out to Alan Stone.
Sorry.
Ayyyy.
That was dope.
That I am feeling
And I'm thinking
And I think it No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, you can still make the joke. Nah, no point.
He did that.
Ain't no point.
Yeah, if you smoke it.
If you do it right, it's okay.
He smoked it.
Yeah, the joke got sent on standby.
Yeah, I'm cool.
I shut up.
All right, I'm going.
Y'all know I love the South.
Right.
I'm going Orangeburg, South Carolina.
Okay.
Okay.
PG Raw featuring Black.
This one is called Selfish. You getting bags from South Carolina now
It's not a bag
You don't do that?
You don't do payola?
Hell no
I was just making sure
We don't do that
That's illegal first of all
I don't think it's illegal on podcasts
Oh lord
Really?
The thought of it
Shit been a little different
Check that
See how I'm feeling
Know I got a little pride
But I ain't gonna lie You know a nigga really miss you
I been feelin' tryna come to my senses But it seem like I can't
Shit way more harder than you think I wanna be the man you need but I ain't right now
That's why I'm tryna pipe down Take time tryna figure life out
I'm gettin' used to a new lifestyle And I don't know when I'm gon' be around
From the hole to the show, shit wild And I know you payin' attention
This shit I be hatin' to make you Cause I still consider your feelings, you feel me?
Can't say that I did if I did These bitches gon' come by the dozen
But really you one in a million If I seen the flaw, I'd pick it
But I'm tryna work on my own Can tell that she hurt by the way that she cursin' me
Back and forth on the floor I know this might sound a lil' selfish
I got a lot of shit I need to tell you
I just don't know how you gon' feel about it I just don't know if you gon' hear the night
I know this might sound a lil' selfish I got a lot of shit I need to tell you
I just don't know how you gon' feel about it I just don't know if you gon' heal or not
I got some shit that I can't really tell Weighing the pros and cons on a scale
Ever since I signed that deal I got Overwhelmed in more days, I don't even know if I feel or not
Tried to take a break, now I'm counting down the days until I drop
I get a number one, shit with my number one All of my winter pain, turn into summer fun
Experience trauma, I had to talk to a therapist so she could get me on track
Cause six don't like when he lack Prayin' to God you don't leave
Trouble that no one can see I got my heart on my sleeve
Tryna practice what I preach I'm not a nigga that's perfect
Yes, I'm a nigga that's perfect
Proving some more over time
I ain't say I'm the one, but I'm trying
I know this might sound a little selfish
I got a lot of shit I need to tell you
I just don't know how you gon' feel about it
I just don't know if you gon' heal or not
I know this might sound a little selfish.
I got a lot of shit I need to tell you.
I just don't know how you gon' feel about it.
I just don't know if you gon' hear the night.
Yep, that was PG Raw.
That was hard. Fuck with that. Yo, that was kind Raw. That was hard.
Fuck with that.
Yo, that was kind of smooth.
It's about time for black.
Yeah, I'm telling you.
It's about time for black.
I don't do that payola shit, man.
No, no, you did that.
I don't fuck with that.
Even if you did, that was a good one.
You know what I mean?
That was a good one you picked to get payola from.
Yeah.
You can take that payment.
We're not that bad at that.
I don't do that.
PG Raw.
Go ahead.
I'm going to play some upstate R&B, man.
That's the game.
Stove God cooks.
That's Parks R&B.
Stove God R&B.
Oh, my God.
That's Stove God R&B.
Play for it.
All right.
Let's go then.
All I ever wanted was a billion dollars.
You knew that I'd be rich when we was whipping pot
Ten thousand hundreds later, we drippin' in pride
Niggas with that action, you don't wanna drown
That's the game, that's the game
Niggas be around you, screamin' that they love you
But I done seen it change
Twenty bricks a cane, I fuck up the game
Now when I slide through, it just don't feel the same
You can buy an umbrella, but you can't stop the rain
They droppin' names, I get low, they're the phones
They like cooks you never home, but it's still your throne
I set the tone for the clones, yeah
Run around with that Joe Montana Run it to me like Hussein, but, go
I can feel it in my soul Niggas energy and go
I broke the mold, cracked the code I fucked the midget so, woah
I watched him change over dough Phone jumping overload
Trap phone jumping overload Used to be my dog left titty
Now God got his ass like what made left diddy All I ever wanted was a billion dollars
Knew that I'd be rich when we was whipping cops
Ten thousand hundreds later we dripping in pride
Niggas with that action, you don't want no drama That's the game, that's the game
Niggas be around you Screamin' that they love you
But I done seen it change, ayy Twenty bricks a cane, I fucked up the game
Now when I pull up, it just don't feel the same You could buy an umbrella but you can't stop the rain
They dropping names, I get low, they're the phones
They like cooks you never home but it's still your throne
I set the tone for the clones
Yeah, run around with that Joe Montana
Run it to me like Hussein Book Go That's the game, Stove God Cooks.
All right, I see where he was taking the culture with that just now.
I like that.
That was smooth.
That sounded good.
I didn't expect that.
At all, right?
Go ahead, Stove God.
I like his little lane switch, you know what I mean?
In the good way, though. I like his little lane switch. You know what I mean? In the good way though.
Alright gentlemen
good part.
No doubt.
Thank y'all for
showing up
showing out
having something to say.
Being opinionated
thank you for listening
to my bullshit.
I appreciate y'all.
Thank y'all to the fans.
Y'all could have been
anywhere in the world
but y'all was here with us
and we appreciate that
for sure.
Shout out to Ish and the Ishsh Hive hopefully he'll be here with us soon the issues the issues hey and again rest in peace to Andrea we love you
we miss you always in our mind thoughts and spirits in our hearts and thank you for all your contributions we couldn't be more appreciative
all right September has somewhere to go that she came and went we out of here you might
go start getting ready for Halloween I'm ready it's October I got a lot of big things going on. I'm getting ready for Christmas. I'm going to say, man, I'm putting Christmas trees up already. Christmas, New Year's Eve, I think I'm going to Vegas.
I said that last time.
Are we out of here?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
We out.
Yeah.
I think so.
Oh, that's Usher, right?
Yeah.
Yep.
Gotcha.
I think I want to see Usher.
I think I want to be with somebody that I'm intimate with.
I think I want to fuck.
Pillow talk a little bit maybe
See if we get any tea
Y'all get tea
Y'all be getting tea
When y'all go to bed
Y'all relate to each other
Oh no we get the tea
But if we get the tea
Like I don't want that tea
Yeah but you still
Gotta listen to all tea
And let your girl know
You gotta let your girl know
You care When a girl ain't hitting her back.
Like, what happened, bae?
Oh, that shit crazy.
Yeah, word.
Word, word.
Who was that again?
Damn.
Oh, all right.
What Claudia Jordan did.
All right.
I mean, I guess.
Yeah, I don't like her new man either.
Yeah, yeah.
But when that good T come in.
Hey.
What?
When the good tea come in
I'll be up like this
What?
Yo, keep us in your prayers
Lord knows we need to be there
Until the next time
I bid you adieu
Farewell, peace, adios
Arrivederci, hasta la vista
So long, goodbye
And all that other good stuff
And remember life is a series of moments
And moments pass
So let's make this one last
As if it's all we have
Last but certainly not least
The baddies are insecure
The stagnant women wanna travel
And the closed minded women want you to teach them things
Grab a IB Pro and enjoy yourself
You got a king-size bed stop
sleeping in the corner all balled up i got no choice i woke up mad one day i woke up in the
corner of my king size that's lex man on patreon i'm gonna talk about it i'm gonna talk about my
kid i love that shit that my kid wants to sleep like right up under me, but I don't sleep.
We can talk.
I keep escaping him in the bed like, all right, you lay here.
I'll lay there.
Wake up a couple hours later.
He up under my armpit.
I'm like, oh, look at my baby.
Place him over there.
Run over there.
Couple hours later, he up under my fucking thighs.
Why y'all always have this kid loving me like this?
No one's ever loved me like this.
I'm not used to this love.
Stop loving me.
Hey.
All right, we out, man.
Y'all hold it down.
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