The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 477 | "Ground Level Problems"

Episode Date: October 6, 2021

The Facebook outage had everyone in disarray as Instagram and WhatsApp were also unavailable due to the untimely disruption (16:35). As a result, Joe reflects on Facebook's influence and its role in s...ociety's everyday life (31:00). Parks also asks if Facebook has too much power which leads to an interesting debate on the flawed "American Dream" concept (44:00). Lil Boosie was removed from his most recent tour (57:50), the crew speculates on the latest Verzuz matchup between Big Daddy Kane and KRS-One (1:06:15), Summer Walker announces her album release date (1:33:00), and Lil Nas X recent controversial tweets (1:53:00). The collective review Lil Durk's top 50 rappers list (2:10:15), and Joe takes a look ahead at Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury (2:29:30) and MORE! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks Joe | Stokley - "Rush" (Ft. H.E.R) Ice | Cashma - "IN MY GLORY" Parks | Lute - "GED" Ish | Ryan Trey - "Pressure"

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I gained understanding now. All right. Hello? Hello. Say, Vaughn. Say, Vaughn, do I need you yet? Yeah. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:00:11 Say, Vaughn, pull me up a little bit of this throat coat. Pause. I don't play pause no more, but throat coat just sounds. Yeah, yeah, you got to pause throat coat still. We recording, right? Yeah, we are. Ice can join us whenever he wants. He's fashionable these days, so he can be fashionably late.
Starting point is 00:00:26 I want to start with a tribute to Ice's fashion. Yeah, fashion. Come on, man. Stop, man. Stop. Stop. He's become such a fashionista that he shows up when he wants to. Listen, shout out to all the listeners out there.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I'm not a fashionista. Thank y'all for riding with us this year. Yes, thank y'all. Not a fashionista. Thank y'all for riding with us this year. Yes, thank y'all. If you have rode with us this year, then you will notice like we have, Ice's wardrobe is not for play play anymore.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Never was. All them little jokes that y'all was getting off. Y'all can continue to get off. While we were transitioning. Right. You don't get his face. They cease to exist now. Honestly.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Nah, nah, it's him. Oh, no, don't worry. I'm going to fuck it up. No, for real. Look at his face. I got a trick for you, niggas. I'm going to fuck it up. I never seen ice drip like that. Pause. This is a different type of drip. Youas. Now, listen. I ain't never seen ice drip like that. Pause.
Starting point is 00:01:25 This is a different type of trick. You melting? This is a different drip, Ice. For real. Sorry. I'm 41, and I never learned how to match royal blue properly. You killing. Fresh shake up.
Starting point is 00:01:40 He got pumas I ain't even got. Ice looks good, man. Nah. Nah. Hold up. Round of applause. I can't get got. Ice looks good, man. Nah. Hold on. Round of applause. I can't get a shake up. Round of applause.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I was here when you came in here while they was getting on you. You was like, yo, say less. My girl is in charge of it now. Once you said that, I watched the gradual change just to greatness. So this is really an icy wifey appreciation somebody yeah hey she filled out the 1099 she accept her position i went and explored that little 1099 topic too out there boy i went and did it you niggas is liars men men y'all are lying y'all ain ain't got to lie to me. I'm nobody. I'm nobody, but y'all are liars.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Men are liars. Men ain't out here just running in the house putting their balls on the table to say Most men don't make the amount of money that would even be applicable. Most men don't make that much How much I got to make to 1099 somebody? Buck 50 plus.
Starting point is 00:02:44 More than that. Yeah. More than that. Yeah, probably more than that. Your type of money, nigga. Ish, I have asked you repeatedly to stop doing that to me. And you won't stop. I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:02:56 All right, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me explain. Let me explain. Can you help me, please? Come on, let me explain. Can anybody help me? Because I don't know how to talk to my co-hosts when I have a problem. He does that to everybody.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I do it to everybody. He does do that to everybody. And you, if that's the case, then you stop all your fuck shit that you be doing. No. Deal.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Deal. Yo, you doing that shit that the girls be doing, I don't like when they do it neither. I will address your issue with me after we address
Starting point is 00:03:21 my issue with you. I want that to stop. Okay, cool. It's going to stop. Jesus. Joe, it is common knowledge in the world, I would assume, that you are of a certain tax bracket. Let me finish. Don't cut me off.
Starting point is 00:03:39 How do I change it back then? No. You say it. It's over. No, it's wrong. It's over. I went bankrupt. I lost everything
Starting point is 00:03:45 Shit is tough out here The show Plummeted All avenues of money Were cancelled I've been cancelled You're looking for walkthroughs I'm struggling
Starting point is 00:03:54 And it's fucked up out here And it's bad Alright cool And it's bad Alright And I'm punching my way back to the top Alright Okay Popeye
Starting point is 00:04:02 What I'm saying is this Hit you with the Popeye The world Assumingly Thinks that you are of a certain, let's say a half a mil. Way off. Way lower. You would make way lower? I make way lower. In a hypothetical.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Go ahead. Got you. You would probably be around that realm. I don't even get it. You just asked. I asked Ice to help me. I asked Ice to jump in. I told you. I don't know. He. You just asked. I asked Ice to help me. I asked Ice to jump in. I told you.
Starting point is 00:04:27 You do not help me. That's his shit. That's not my nothing. He asked the question. No, I'm talking about you. You will see. Yo, y'all niggas get money. Yeah, it's your bag.
Starting point is 00:04:35 It's your icebreaker. It's cool. It's like he works for the IRS. This is the funny. It's like he works for them niggas. You don't do that? People running around trying to hide. You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don't do that? You don'tiggas. You don't do that? People running around trying to hide. You don't do that?
Starting point is 00:04:45 Out in the world for these niggas. It's come right in. It's over there under the mattress. He's the Pandora Papers. It's right there under. It's that second dresser. No, no, no. Pull it all the way.
Starting point is 00:04:54 All the way. All the way. It's in the tuck. Yo, we all do the same thing. You on ice right now because he came on here polo sport down with the matching sneakers and all. You know what I'm saying? The red, yellow, blue, and green all back. Man, he could have saying the red yellow blue and green all back he could have got that from the outlet okay he could
Starting point is 00:05:09 have got that from the outlet i don't assume where it's coming from that's outlet work god damn it but you look good ice back to you we're not all have to go back to me i'm just saying you look good now i'm gonna play some music great we going to have a great podcast I don't know much about nothing Because I had my phone down But as did y'all For different reasons Let's see what you did there Hey let me get a little drummer
Starting point is 00:05:37 Hey now That can't get louder than that Want parts? Turn my little effects up Real quick Want parks? Tell my little effects up real quick. And before I start, you should be the last nigga to play like that anyway. So watch this. No, this is the funny part.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And you've been playing like that since day one. It's the trauma? You've been playing like that since day one. Am I the trauma? You've been playing like that since day one. Am I lying? Hey, when the muffin cooked, it's cooked. Hey, listen. You ain't got cooking to watch.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Hey, I know how to eat a muffin. Hey, you got me there, buddy. And no, you win. You win. We should have did this pre-writing
Starting point is 00:06:18 stuff. Your timing is off and now you talk to your friends. Oh, shit. I had to tell my mama what happened. You know, your niggas' moms listen to the pod. They don't do that.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Hey, what happened with Ish last week while I missed out on something? Damn, mama. That's the last thing you want to do, have to tell your mama about your friends. God damn it. I told you that boy wasn't Lucas. Oh, man. Mic check one, two, one, two. Mack, what's good?
Starting point is 00:06:58 It's my vibe right now. Could you turn the lights out if I go? Don't want to fight thoughts no more Hope everybody out there's feeling good, feeling great Got the time for that Fresh bag still smelling like a vacay, you heard? Got time for something more
Starting point is 00:07:16 I said the weird is the way I go I need two cigarettes and a Casamigo I'm feelin' like it's Friday night Oh, I've been tryin' to keep things low I said, can somebody save me? Save me from all evil, sir I said, can somebody save me? Can you find my friend?
Starting point is 00:07:51 Let her have a little chance Feels like every time I see you I just don't really see you I just don't really see you I just don't really It feels like every night I just don't really see it, I just don't really know It feels like every night I'm in the dark I just wanna believe it, I just wanna believe it I just don't really know
Starting point is 00:08:13 I'm on a Mack vibe I'm not leaving this, I think Mack is from Brooklyn Shout out to you, shout out to the whole Brooklyn too, we gon' get there later Long Island he said Long Island? That live voice is riled up back there there later. Long Island, he said. Long Island? That lot of boys riled up back there. Wait, wait, wait. Mack is from Long Island?
Starting point is 00:08:30 Do he claim y'all? He don't claim Long Island. He like y'all. Y'all don't claim Long Island, neither. Don't do that. Let's go then. Shout out to the ladies listening. Shout out to all my co-hosts for being here today.
Starting point is 00:08:45 They could have been anywhere in the world, including Riker. Shut Riker's down. We still on that. We still on that. That would make me never sleep with a New York chick again, honestly, just to avoid that situation. That would make me never sleep with a New York chick again, honestly. Just to avoid that situation. Like, honestly.
Starting point is 00:09:12 A New York woman would be off limits for me if when things got bad, Rikers was in play. Nah, I'm cool on that one. Right back to Newark I go. Wait a minute. Hey, we're vibing it down. I just can't get you out of my head I'm sure that thing is all straight But no need for something in this red I just wanna get away And it goes And it goes There's another one that never fails
Starting point is 00:09:49 When you grab the aux out of nowhere in a strange room Never fails, you can do it, I'm telling you I just wanna get away What I got going on anyways Oh, I just wanna get away Gotta get away from you All right, we got things to talk about, I suppose. Oh, man, he was about to start going crazy He was about to start going crazy right there
Starting point is 00:10:31 Mic check, one, two, one, two Who's your man? Not for daddy What's up? It's Parks. It's Parks. It's Parks. It's Parks. It's Parks. It's Parks. You're icing it.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Microphone check. One, two, what is this? Welcome to episode... 477. God damn it. 477 of the Joe Budden Podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host, Joe Budden podcast I'm your humble gracious grateful
Starting point is 00:11:05 and highly favored host Joe Budden I think we'll be at 500 around Christmas or New Year's depending on how hard you know what I mean getting sick of people
Starting point is 00:11:13 handing in their 500th episode request suggestion box any good ones there's been a lot of that it's the same one
Starting point is 00:11:21 it's the same one it's the same one all the time. Just forget it. It's all good. It's fire. It's fire.
Starting point is 00:11:31 No. No. I mean, it'd be fire. Let's just go ahead. 477? Yeah. 477 of the Joe Button Podcast here with a few really cool dudes. Parks is here.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Ish is here. Ice is here. Corey's here. Ice is here. Corey's here. The whole Video Village is back there. How's everyone doing? How are y'all feeling? How was your weekend? It was cool.
Starting point is 00:11:52 It was good. Uneventful. I like that. Uneventful is eventful for me. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. The relaxation.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Yeah, that's one of my favorites. I had one of those type of weekends. I agree with that. Round of applause. The fall. Super chill. And it's the fall. Cigars in the backyard. That's all we do. It's the fall. And it's the fall. I have one of those type of weekends. I agree with that. Round of applause. And it's the fall. Cigars in the backyard. That's all we do. It's the fall.
Starting point is 00:12:07 And it's the fall. I love that fall. Those last days out here in New York. Last days to thot around without a jacket. Outside. I was about to say, they're going to continue to thot. Thotting don't be the same.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Thotting changes. Y'all underestimating the thots, bro. No, I'm just saying, like, if you're trying to get Thot. Thotting don't be the same. Thotting changes. Thotting changes. Y'all underestimating the thoughts, bro. No, I'm just saying. No, we're saying. You're trying to get your situations right. It's the fall. You're trying to meet two or three nice.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Cuffing season rules. Yeah, like two or three nice little things. Is there still a thing, cuffing season? I don't know. I'm so far away. Me too. I'm on the game, man. You know what, buddy?
Starting point is 00:12:43 You know what? That's what we're not going to. Girl. Girl. Don't do that. My bad. Don't come flashing your wedding ring in our faces. You hear him?
Starting point is 00:12:54 Is that still a thing? Do y'all still do that? Oh, my God. I don't know. That's funny. Who in here knows? I don't know if COVID changed the way that cuffing, because it's been cuffing season for two years, damn near.
Starting point is 00:13:06 COVID will make you cum I guess I never saw that on the side effects COVID I think I got COVID I can't stop cumming you didn't sleep with anybody that had COVID though who any of you no I had it a long time ago so my girl had it with anybody that had COVID though. Who? Any of you.
Starting point is 00:13:25 No, I had it a long time ago. So my girl had it. Y'all was fucking? Serious question. Am I asking like, am I too much in your business? Fam,
Starting point is 00:13:37 it was a week. You only have COVID for a week. So you went without for a week? I'm just saying, I didn't know what you meant. I meant like, do you think you, nevermind,
Starting point is 00:13:45 move along. I was going to learn something new about COVID. No, no, no, I'm just saying like, yes, I'm sure cuffing season is still a thing. Sure.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I'm certain that it is. Yeah, I'm definitely. I cannot confirm that for you. No, again, but people be out here. But it changes,
Starting point is 00:14:03 how you maneuver changes was the point we were saying. We wasn't saying dotting stops. Yeah. But once outdoors is kind of out of play, I spent a little money
Starting point is 00:14:12 to go out now. Then it's like she only want to listen to the niggas in her top three now. Top four. Hmm. Think?
Starting point is 00:14:21 That's possible. When outdoors is out of play? I think you just, yeah, you're right. I think you slim, I think you slimmed down your roster. Oh, absolutely? I think you just, yeah, you're right. I think you slimmed down your roster. Oh, absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Again, the summer's not here. You're not outside 8, 9, 10 o'clock no more. It gets dark at 5. Yeah. Well, now I know who I enjoy. Yeah. I know who I enjoy enough to want to be indoors with, who I can coexist with.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I know who we like to eat the same thing, listen to the same type music i've vetted i've vetted a little bit now we was outside i did that me and the girls you called your homies i brought my homies yeah you just athlete dudes was in town we did that they ran around they ran around everybody ran around i always know what's going on by the shift are they gonna judge me again but it's fine. By the shifts that the girls take at the clubs. Told me a lot. It would make sense. I had to think about it first. It makes sense. That'll tell you what the money on the ground level is doing.
Starting point is 00:15:16 It's like Wall Street. Tell me more. If I know... You want to go? In the summertime, we active. We busy. We moving around. Sure. So I don't necessarily need the poppin' nights anymore because I'm doing other shit. New niggas is in town.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I can entertain them. Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. When that winter hits, I want all the premium nights because now it's back in grind mode. Got it. Okay. That makes sense. So now if hot girl A that normally makes a killing on a Wednesday is in Jamaica on Wednesday for the next two Wednesdays. It tells me what's going on at ground level, like a Wall Street. It means all the normal clientele That gets their money From underground ways
Starting point is 00:16:05 Whatever's going on in the world We ain't got time to come in here On a Wednesday night And blow it So she ain't got time To stand there So that Wednesday ain't important Yeah she don't have time
Starting point is 00:16:15 To stand there and wait for it She gotta go True Okay True I get it I never thought about that one Yeah maybe I'm a weirdo
Starting point is 00:16:22 No no It makes a lot of sense though It makes a lot of sense It's just one level of economics But it's a funny one But I mean it. I never thought about that one. Yeah, maybe I'm a weirdo. No, no, it makes a lot of sense, though. It makes a lot of sense. It's just one level of economics, but it's a funny one. I mean, it counts. It's applicable. You got to count all the different economic. That's true.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Yeah, you got to count them all. Speaking of stripper economics. We're coming right in with that. And that's not so much stripper economics, but interesting topic nonetheless. Coming right in with that. And that's not so much stripper economics, but interesting topic nonetheless. Over the weekend, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp. Is that all of them?
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yes. Yeah. It was Facebook's companies. They went down. Was it the whole weekend? No. No, no, no. It was one day, right? One day, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:01 About an eight, nine hour gap, right? Something like that. That's all it was? Yeah. Yeah, but you say all it was. No, right? One day, yeah. About an eight, nine hour gap, right? Something like that. That's all it was? Yeah. Yeah, but you say all it was. No, no, no. Motherfuckers took that like it was a weekend. Probably were.
Starting point is 00:17:12 But think about that. Think about all the users of these apps. Billions. They said something like three billion. Yeah, billions. Something close, 2.8, something like that. They said he lost $7 billion. But he's worth $122, so I mean, you know. But I don't know how true that is. It called 2.8. They said he lost $7 billion. But he's worth $122.
Starting point is 00:17:26 So, I mean, you know. But I don't know how true that is. It seems a little steep. Not to me, though. No, not really. That's why we got to unpack this. Let's stay right here for a second. All right, if he's worth $122.
Starting point is 00:17:36 All of the users, because I'm throwing it to you, because these go hand in hand. All of the users and all of the content that they upload for 10 hours was gone gotta be lost some money somewhere there I definitely lost 7 bill
Starting point is 00:17:54 if he's only worth 120 and 6, 7, 8 hours lost you 7 how much he making a day he'll be worth way more money it's just math
Starting point is 00:18:03 17 days he'll be broke yeah that's what I'm saying I don't think that's possible I don't know How much he making a day? He'll be worth way more money. It's just math. 17 days, he'll be broke. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't think that's possible. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Or he's making $30 billion a day. He don't make $30 billion a day.
Starting point is 00:18:16 He's only worth $122 billion. That's what I'm saying. So that's what I mean. I think that's exactly. Only. A little small pocket. But didn't that have a lot to do with the stock prices whistleblower. The stock prices went down and shit like that? I think it probably started with the whistleblower shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:29 They said it did. Like, that's the impetus possibly for all this shit. Yeah. I did see that it is connected. For those who don't know, there was a young lady who was a whistleblower on Facebook in their practices. Yeah. And she did a 60-minute interview, which went out Sunday night.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Mm-hmm. And the very next day was when all their apps went down. Right. Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp. And the whistle that she was blowing, for those that didn't see it, was that they don't, they intentionally allow combative shit.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Just in general. I'm sorry. They push political shit. They're designed to make you angry. Correct. That's the way it was said. Because it generates revenue for them. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:14 If you push Trump, I'm going to put you buying. We're going to incite a situation where we're just going to... Not even just necessarily in politics. It's just designed to show you their algorithms are showing you things to evoke the emotion of anger. Because you will spend more time on the app if you're angry and reacting to things, which will then they can turn into more ad dollars.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Well, for years, and maybe we were a little bit ahead, but we've been talking about how companies capitalize off of your emotional currency. All day. So what did y'all think? but we've been talking about how companies capitalize off of your emotional currency. All day. All day. So what did y'all think? Y'all was going to be home getting emotional about things and somebody wasn't going to figure out how to capitalize off of it? Yeah, I don't see anything wrong with that. I know, but we're the minority there.
Starting point is 00:19:56 That what? Don't think there's anything wrong with that? I think there's something wrong with it. Well, when people are emotional, you're not really thinking. Let me ask you why you think that's a wrong thing. I think it's wrong because they are... If I follow Ish and Ice and Joe Budden, say that's the only people I follow on Facebook or Instagram,
Starting point is 00:20:13 I want to see Ish, Ice, and Joe Budden. I don't want to see the political tinged shit. You know what I'm saying? I find when I go on Facebook, it's people that I don't really give a fuck. They're just putting up shit that will incite conversation. Honestly, that was the reason why I deleted my Facebook years ago.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Because it was like, I'm not seeing what I'm here for. And that's the same reason why I'm not that active on Instagram. I know who I follow, and I'm not seeing none of this shit. So I just delete this shit. Glad we're here. We all know I got arrested. Right? It was shocking to me
Starting point is 00:20:46 how many people... I'm nobody. You know what I'm saying? Like, dog, lipstick, alley, fucking Reddit, Twitter. All that shit went over me. You're somebody, though. You get my point. In a big scheme of things, like in a worldly spectrum, who the fuck is Antoine?
Starting point is 00:21:10 Dog, y'all are saying y'all don't want to look at Facebook for that. There are people that wake up in the morning and live for that shit. So why the fuck would Mark Zuckerberg not monetize that or anybody else not monetize that? The problem wasn't the monitor, this monetization. The problem was they were then hiding what they're doing. Like they're telling people, yo, we,
Starting point is 00:21:32 we, we, we find certain amount of percent of, of, uh, misinformation. We're flagging this, that,
Starting point is 00:21:39 and the third. They're downplaying the numbers. Okay. She released actual documents showing that they lying. Right. They see it's way worse than it is. And they're intentionallyplaying the numbers okay she released actual documents showing that they lying right they see it's way worse than it is and they're intentionally allowing it knowing what it's doing to people that's where the problem where the problem and also the ethical and also the problem is not that people post it or that it's popular it's that they prioritize it in the algorithms
Starting point is 00:22:00 like i won't see uh uh my cousin somewhere that did some fucking beautiful great shit i'll see uh someone posting a fuck joe biden meme or whatever or fuck trump meme and i don't care to see that you know what i'm saying don't play the other side of that ain't this what the news been doing for years true i'm not saying that the news is shitty too but i'm just saying you will turn on the news every night and you see nothing good. Nothing but negative shit. It's called the bad news. This is a global problem. They just taken it and moved it to social media. So if it's a global problem.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Or at least a national problem. It's generating revenue, which means people want to do it and want to see it. Why the fuck are we mad at him? But it's not necessarily people want to do it or want to see it. It wouldn't engage. People engage. The algorithms to do or want to see it it wouldn't engage people engage the algorithms wouldn't keep working
Starting point is 00:22:47 if niggas didn't engage if it's designed like this shit is like a mental trick they playing on people you don't even know you want to see this after a point
Starting point is 00:22:55 you're hooked right they know what strings to pull it's like when you argue with your girl and you know I could say certain shit
Starting point is 00:23:01 to set her off you're controlling her emotions she don't even know it that's what they're doing they're showing you the things they need to show you to get you to react I could say certain shit to set her off. You're controlling her emotions. She don't even know it. That's what they're doing. They're showing you the things they need to show you to get you to react.
Starting point is 00:23:09 You're not in control. I'm disagreeing with you. We can move on because we don't got to stay here. What I'm saying is, fam, my responses are mine.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Okay. Right? Like, I look at that. I don't subscribe to that. I don't subscribe to somebody else's controlling you because you have a potential to go left or go right but you see you're missing the point is that they are controlling you because they're not giving you everything they're only giving you the shit that you will they're blocking off all the respond you're missing the point still they're looking at data that says this makes you respond.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Correct. They know what triggers you. You're right. You don't have to respond. But they know what will make you respond. They're looking at data that says
Starting point is 00:23:51 if these things happen, this is the probability that you'll do that. Or that the masses will do this. Cool. We all watched the social experiment thing.
Starting point is 00:24:02 That's what this is. I mean, that let you know. And that's exactly what it was like like when dude put his phone he said yo i'm not touching the phone they said all right yo let's let's show him this let's show if we show him this notification and he did a good job of ignoring the phone but if we show him the notification from the ex-girlfriend that he wasn't checking for we can trick him to pick up his phone these algorithms this ai shit knows what button to
Starting point is 00:24:26 push in your brain scary to where you can't you can't you have to pick the phone and when you have the because he's right and when you have the the escalated version of that conversation it's how are they programming the programs and the algorithms and who's doing it and what is it looking for right to even show you the what's coming up next when i turn on my youtube and they show me hey these are the things that you may have like it's based on you know what you've seen for me what i'm giving you that's telling you that right because these are the next why don't you just give me all the shit i don't know what's came up and i'll pick what i would like and if we learned that it might be like us learning that Bill Belichick was
Starting point is 00:25:07 taping the fucking Brown sideline to get the playoff. Like it might be us learning about what goes on in an NFL locker room. It might be pandemonium that erupts civil unrest. If we learn how some of these things are, especially when we have these talks and then programmers out there start hitting us like, yo, you right dog.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And I don't have the range to get into it, i'm sure y'all do like but it don't take a genius to see right i agree it ain't it ain't tough to see so that's why it's tough right we talking about uh facebook and instagram how they might perpetuate their algorithms to get you to do xyz i'm having a problem with and i keep saying it we don't have to stay here i'm not trying to depress nobody but when i'm just looking at podcasters on youtube what i keep bumping into is or is young kids from the suburbs monetizing black trauma telling me, here are the 10 rappers that were killed on Instagram Live. Here are the 10 rappers that were killed, I mean, that killed somebody.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Here are the 20 people that I see that constantly and get sick to my stomach. Because it's like, why y'all doing that? Well, wait, I know why y'all doing that. I know why you're doing that. It's the same theory. It's the same shit. But didn't one of the really big podcasters that's black make his living off of that and create his whole platform
Starting point is 00:26:35 off of that? Black trauma? Again you know I'm new here. I'm new in this space but from my understanding that's what homeboy did to even get popular. Act, you're saying? Yeah. Some people say.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Oh, again, I don't know. Some people say. Again, you know, I'm new in this space. I wasn't so hip to act when he was doing his war in Chirac. I learned about him after, but I've heard that. Yeah, that's what I've heard. Well, that's what a lot of people, from someone that followed that and saw it, that was what blew them up. Yeah, from what I heard.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Took them from here to here. Again, I've never seen a good damn life. That's where the platform developed from because it was like an investigative report type shit into it. And if you look on Reddit now, I saw somebody joke about it, but it is, you really shouldn't make the joke. But they was like, yo, they treat Chicago like the Marvel Universe now. No, that's true. No, that's true. They got breakdowns on Reddit that's ridiculous. About Chicago?
Starting point is 00:27:30 About Chicago. Fam, I'm seeing this on YouTube. But that's what happens. I have not heard of it at all. They take that and then they take it to YouTube. Put up a video, mask their voice because they learned from Momo's mistakes. That's what makes me mad. They learned from his mistakes because of all the hell he caught from doing it.
Starting point is 00:27:46 So they like, okay, we're going to do this, but I'm going to do it and keep my anonymity. Academics caught hell from doing it. Yeah. You know, but if I bring up, but if we bring that part up about act, then I also got to bring up him changing his entire business model in front of everybody's eyes. Which he did. Which he did. he did did that stopped right got you but there's still an entire wave out there that saw it it worked so it worked for him so it was profitable i'm gonna got some recognition and now with all the platforms offering all these
Starting point is 00:28:19 different types of monetization packages it's like how It's like, how do we attract audience? What attracts audience? That's all it's about now. So now we only looking at, we don't care about the emotions that's attached to the other side, who's affected, who's not affected. We only care about what gets these numbers because that's what's happening. But that's life. Fam, so if you had-
Starting point is 00:28:41 It wasn't always. Yes, it was. When? I'm about to throw it to you. Just give it to me Dog Vietnam was a war Millions of people got killed
Starting point is 00:28:49 How many movies You seen on Vietnam? A bunch Millions How much War shit have we seen With violence And trauma
Starting point is 00:28:57 And all of these things Shit they re-release Call of Duty every year With the same shit Ignoring the fact That people are losing Loved ones in the military every fucking day. We ignore that. So when you put it on a bigger scale, some of the most...
Starting point is 00:29:14 Nigga, Sylvester Stallone is one of the biggest artists of our generation. Based off of all the movies. Well, you know, his popular Rambles and all that other shit was built on trauma. You know what I'm saying? Arnold Schwarzenegger, same shit and all that other shit was built on trauma right yeah you know i'm saying arnold schwarzenegger same shit all of that shit is built on trauma mad military movies come out built on and based off of trauma they could give a fuck about the niggas that's in the va right now fucked up they could care less about the families of motherfuckers that was in the service that lost their kids their sons they, their daddies. They don't give a fuck. So on a small scale is Chicago, but on a big scale is
Starting point is 00:29:47 Afghanistan. Right. But is any of that okay? No, I'm saying it's been going on. Joe said it's new. It's not new. It's been going on. No, it's been wrong. It feels newer because we're in this digitized space. And what's new about it is
Starting point is 00:30:03 that everyone didn't watch Rambo. It reached more people than motherfuckers watched Chicago. Facebook? No, it didn't. I'm talking about Chicago. I'm taking it back to the main subject at hand. No, I'm just talking about Chicago. We talked about how they are basically turning Chicago into the Marvel Universe. No, I get it.
Starting point is 00:30:19 And monetizing it, right? Well, that's just an example. I know. I'm just saying. But that's a small piece of that example. Right. Jay said Scarface the- The movie did more than Scarface the rapper.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Exactly. It's been going on. Right. We choose to pick and choose what we highlight. You get what I'm saying? I do. All of this shit has been detrimental and traumatic. I do, but again back to the the main subject
Starting point is 00:30:45 of is it okay for facebook to do it it's it's it's a little different i'm just saying it's the way of the world i'm saying i don't think he should be singled out but networks aren't i'm not i'm not i'm not condoning him i agree with you be clear i'm not condoning any of it the thing about facebook the world and zuckerberg what what I see a lot of people are saying is not necessarily that he should be singled out about it, but offer some type of control to try to curve this a little bit. You're actually pushing it.
Starting point is 00:31:18 That's what people are saying. We're showing you, you got the data to show this is fucking people up. It's making kids depressed. Instagram, they have actual data to show this is fucking people up. It's making kids depressed. Instagram, they have actual data to say that Instagram is making teenage girls depressed. They're showing you constant what the definition of beauty is in Europe. It's a little... The times have changed.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Technology's advanced. It is different when you can see it on TV. You walk off. You're glued to your phone all day. It's being thrown in your face from the minute you wake up to the minute you go to sleep. It's fucking with people's brains. That's what they're saying. So, all right.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I'm going to rock with you. What you're saying. How do you stop that? You can't. You got to shut down an Instagram platform. No, no, no. I don't think you stop. One way you stop it is stop skewing the algorithm to put the bullshit up.
Starting point is 00:32:05 You're forcing it. I want to follow. I want to see what I want to see. I don't want to see what you think I want to see. If I'm choosing to see that, cool. I said you're forcing it to me. And one way you stop it is by being aware. I said that.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I'm sure they are. They are aware. And listen, we in wealthy people business. There's a lot that we need to tackle. Mucho. There's a lot that we need to tackle that's a little more ground level that observations I've made just with our people in those nine hours that we're down. So I do want us to get to that at some point.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Motherfuckers probably was going through withdrawal. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I was just saying, because I said that it's scientific data that supports that little girls are being depressed based on Instagram. Right? I believe that. that little girls are being depressed based on instagram right i believe that yeah forget little girls grown-ups yep grown women are feeling insecurities and self-esteem issues based off of instagram uh-huh right i'm a thousand percent for that my thing is how do we remedy that without saying all of these people can't post bikini pics or all of these people can't post a certain type of pic?
Starting point is 00:33:09 I'm telling you. And I've told you. We both have told you how. You're stop skewing the algorithm to only show that to them. Exactly. When you do that, you're you're intentionally trying to get them that way. I thought the algorithms are based on. Yeah, that's where you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I don't want you to say that's where it's wrong. Let me jump in real quick. That's not thought the algorithms are based on. Yeah. That's where you're wrong. I don't want you to say that's where it's wrong. Let me jump in real quick. That's not what the algorithm is based on. Yo, you said, um, whatever you just said about bikini sparks something in me because that's when I get mad too.
Starting point is 00:33:33 And I might've said that on this pod before on that explore page, they keep showing me young girls in bikinis. Me as somebody with a 2021 year year old kid we had the conversation about coyly ray last week your dad is my peer i'm not looking at you like that i'm uncomfortable with that netflix conversation that was floating around about that show they was promoting where with the kids with the kids and it was funny the same conversation y'all having about the trauma can be had there as well. Indeed. With what they're doing with these underage or just young, naked children.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I'm not a computer guy. I'm not trying to sound like daddy here. No, no, no, no, no. You should. You a dad. But my point is, I'm not a computer techie, dude. And this is noticeable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:23 It's not even so much hidden anymore. Let me ask you this. Aside from the pornography aspect, I've gotten in fights with, like, my parents' high school friends on Facebook over some... Like, why am I even arguing with someone that is 50 years older than me about some shit that he don't know about and I don't know about? That's what made me delete my Facebook. From the Instagram perspective. Again, correct me if I'm wrong because I could be. I have Facebook and tomorrow I have a 5 o'clock room with Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Oh, it's coming back? Yeah, he stood me up the first time. He's back. He had a speaking engagement. Who am I to say something to him about his speaking engagement? 5 p.m. Eastern. I'll reactivate. Oh, it's Eastern.
Starting point is 00:35:04 I'll reactivate for that. Let me make sure. 5 p.m. Eastern? I'll reactivate. Oh, it's Eastern. I'll reactivate for that. Let me make sure. 5 p.m. Eastern. We will find out about these wormholes all over the place when I speak to him. I'm smoking before I watch that, by the way. With regards to the- I feel you, man. I feel you.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I'm going to need a little edible. What? I'm not mad at you. With regards to the algorithms, right? Like, on my Explore page is mad sports, is mad financial shit, is algorithms, right? Like, on my explore page, it's mad sports. It's mad financial shit. It's girls, right? I thought that it was based on stuff you see and then stuff your peers see.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Because I've even heard you say, yo, Instagram keep pushing your exes your way because based on your friends following them and liking their pictures, it pushes your friends your way. Right? So what if they showing you these girls based on your friends and your peers liking these girls' pictures? Then that speaks to the problem we're talking about. I know. No, I'm saying, but is the platform to blame for that? Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:57 I think it just makes sense. Yes. You know how Instagram started? Or at least this is the story that was circulating back in 08 or 09 or whenever this came about. It started with the creator of Instagram at a sporting event in a good seat. And he took the picture or the video and he was like, damn, there's people all over the world. That can't get this seat.
Starting point is 00:36:21 That can't get this seat. That might not see this. So he posted it and it went not so he had the idea i don't know google it because i'm off memory right now but if that's how it started then but again people will start something and switch the business model on you in a heartbeat but if that's how it started then yeah this is horrible we We knew something. Hold on, let me hear it. Yeah, I got 10 people in my life that know seven exes of mine. Now, because that's true, why is that funneled my way when Instagram was created for us to see the view of people outside of our world? You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:02 There we go. That's it. And your friends typically if all of us it's five men in this room right if all of us typically hang out together and we have the same common interests then it would be logical and rational to say if all of them drive f-150s right they all drive pickup trucks when a new pickup truck come out i'm shooting that shit their way but there's not enough times where so you said see like you but you the minority here when you was like yo i don't have to do that i can make my own decision there's not enough times where the human has the wherewithal
Starting point is 00:37:35 to say yo fuck that robot it don't happen it don't happen they know i agree with that and they know that it don't happen y'all follow ek the follow Eck the other day. I follow Eck on Instagram. Okay. I've been liking all of Eck's pics. Eck takes real good pics, by the way. He lives a nice life. You know how angry I've been at Instagram for shoving Eck in my face? And going to shove all of Eck's friends in your face.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Instagram. Y'all don't get to tell me who my niggas is. X been at the house playing spades, watching whatever the fuck. I didn't need to follow him. True. He's in my living room. They gonna force feed him to you.
Starting point is 00:38:20 But man, somehow y'all know, and now he's here, and it's like, i want to follow i never thought about this because he's in real life in my face but that's the thing that i'm saying because all of us are your friend but that's disgusting it's weird it's weird it's creepy it's nasty it's nasty it's a suggestion that makes sense you know what you know what sounds better when you get in the car and say yo man i don't know what't know what's going, what they putting in the chicken in London, but whoa, that sounds a lot better. Know why?
Starting point is 00:38:49 I ain't been to London in a few years. My view of London last time I went and what I'm looking at now looks different. I enjoy it when I see it because it looks fresh. I love Newark. It looks good. I ain't been. Wow. It gives me, when all these people are going on their vacations and I can't go
Starting point is 00:39:04 because I'm married to fucking work, I be looking at them like, whoa, look at that giraffe. Look at Grease. I want to see that. What the fuck are y'all keep showing me? I mean. That's not right. I'm not disagreeing with you. Hey, mark that time.
Starting point is 00:39:20 It's just business. You know what I mean? No, it's business though. It's business. I know. I'm not disagreeing. I can tell you You knew they changed
Starting point is 00:39:26 You knew they changed And we will not bring this Back to ground level Y'all want to keep being In wealthy people business But go ahead Go ahead You knew they changed
Starting point is 00:39:33 Something over there At Instagram When the timeline Stopped being in order I agree That's when they threw it Off for me That's when you knew
Starting point is 00:39:39 He's right And same thing with Facebook The minute you start Looking at your timeline And I'm seeing Three days ago Five days ago Ten minutes ago He's right Seventeen hours ago Like yo what are your timeline, and I'm seeing three days ago, five days ago, 10 minutes ago, 17 hours ago, like, yo, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:39:48 Time out. I'm sorry. I keep wanting y'all to leave, but y'all won't, so it's fine. So what I'll say is this. Since y'all want to stay in wealthy people business, it's none of my business. But I like it. Listen, man. I own a fucking company.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Little whistleblower said some shit. Hey, go in the bathroom, make that call. Hey, juke the system for a minute. Shut this shit down for a minute. Burn.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Hey, I know they're going to miss the little pictures. Like, I want to know how that- Shut it down. I want to know how that call- Fuck is y'all talking?
Starting point is 00:40:23 Hey, shut it down. You need me, nigga. And not only- He ain't even saying hello. They was like, yo. That's cool. Fuck is y'all talking about? Hey. Shut it down. You need me, nigga. And not only- He ain't even saying hello. They was like, yo, how's your day? You okay?
Starting point is 00:40:29 Do y'all know how that shit went down? Like the technical side of it, how that went down? They actually deleted the fucking, like it wasn't that a server went down or nothing. They deleted shit off of the global, like the IP address type shit. It was just deleted deleted i don't
Starting point is 00:40:46 know how they got that shit back but they were saying like you got the best motherfucking world hard to do because you had to it was a it was a thing where you had to physically be there to do it but the people with the access that were physically there needed to speak to somebody else to know what to do. But now everything Facebook.com. So all your internal email services, everything going. So I can't even email from this department over there to walk them through the shit. And everything Ice is saying is exactly why when I watch some of those social experiment docs at 1, 2 in the morning, and they start talking about having to acquiesce to hacktivists,
Starting point is 00:41:29 I get up naked and go make coffee. I'm saying a little bit of that wrong, but y'all know what I'm saying. Hey, before you said any of that, when they just said the word hacktivist, I knew what time it was. It's time. Like, this wasn't a hack. Explain this to me because I knew what time it was. It's time. This wasn't a hack. Explain it to me because I'm lost.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Well, what's an activist? I understand. Now imagine a hacker who feels like that. And imagine a great one. Imagine he's like the best. So now listen to all this shit I'm saying. And I'm home. Just could do whatever.
Starting point is 00:42:06 From the computer. And that's to all this shit I ain't saying. And I'm home. Just could do whatever from the computer. And that's where the real doc is. See, y'all in this doc craze, y'all not giving me the real docs. How did the Hillary emails come to... Where's he at? Ain't nobody fucking with no hackers, bro. Yo, nigga, skip. What? What's that shit we was
Starting point is 00:42:23 watching months ago? You got Snowden tweeting about this shit, telling people what's going on. He's telling folks, ah, WhatsApp is down now, huh? Y'all really need to be on Signal. Leave that shit alone. Yeah, it's in the end encryption, et cetera, et cetera. I have a side question. Do y'all think that Facebook has too much power? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I think that. Being that they have Instagram and WhatsApp and Facebook. Facebook has elected a president. Yes, they have too much power. We just keep getting more mature, but fuck it, we here. Let's go. Yes, they've been had too much power. You think it's a monopoly or something like it?
Starting point is 00:42:55 For me to admit that, I would have to go against my entire moral compass. Facebook did it. They got a lot of power, though. And then they said that, from what I heard. Again, I'm not the techie guy. I can't say that. I can't say that. That's not right.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I know it feels right, but I can't say that. That's not right. That they have too much power? Yeah, even if they do. You can't say it? Because even if they do, they went out and got it. They earned it. Like, y'all managed it.
Starting point is 00:43:24 No, no, no. Y'all gave it to them. I'm not. I know all of that's fucked up. They didn't went out and got it. They earned it. Like y'all managed it. No, no, no. Y'all gave it to him. I'm not. I know. All of that's fucked up. They didn't go out and earn it. Y'all gave it to him. But he went out and got it in the system that y'all made.
Starting point is 00:43:33 That y'all put in. And now y'all want to regulate it like y'all do with all this shit. Of course. So maybe it should be regulated. The game is the game. Two things can exist. So I'm not going to argue with y'all. Because y'all might be right. But boy, what does that say game is the game. Two things can exist. So I'm not going to argue with y'all because y'all might be right.
Starting point is 00:43:46 But boy, what does that say? To the kids. What does that say about the America concept? Because that's really what it is. All this American dream. You can come over here. You can earn your way to the top. No, wait.
Starting point is 00:43:58 I earned my way to the top. And it threatened y'all. It threatened everything that your old ass, lack of updating ass system stood for. Come on, fam. We know what this is. Get down or lay down. They gonna go to y'all house and shoot. Get down or lay down. This has been
Starting point is 00:44:14 the thing since day one. I just left the gun range. Let me tell you, whatever y'all houses is made up of, it ain't enough. It's going. Hey, I know y'all part and kicking it, eh? Friends. That stucco.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I'm telling y'all something. Them dumbass bros. We're going to ask them. We're going to get there. We're going to get there. Now, again, do they have too much power? My basis on them having too much power is because I've heard that once you create a Facebook profile, it can't ever be deleted. You could freeze it, but the data and the information is somewhere.
Starting point is 00:44:53 That's already been sold, bro. No, not only that. I'm not even talking about selling it. I'm just talking about it's in a- It ain't in Facebook no more. Which means, fam- Sold a million times over, bro. Yo, y'all want to be Neil deGrasse Tyson so bad
Starting point is 00:45:05 which means that no your facial recognition your all of that shit is on somebody's server somewhere yo it's gone that's the power
Starting point is 00:45:13 it's gone we don't have to waste time on that it's already gone you're gone they sold you they could lie and tell you yeah you just click delete
Starting point is 00:45:20 cool my thing with them having too much power is more about the the fact that they have that and Instagram and WhatsApp I don't care if
Starting point is 00:45:28 one of them is big but the fact that you have all three to me seems like they bought them I get it yeah like they bought them
Starting point is 00:45:35 like that's why yo fam this is the American dream right in America they say you can start from nothing and you can die
Starting point is 00:45:41 filthy rich right we've all heard the quote where they say you being born poor is not your fault. Okay. You dying poor is your fault. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Right? Yeah. I subscribe to that. I never heard that, but that's prolific. Look, I subscribe to that. Sure. Beautiful. So how do we tell kids, yo, strive to be everything you could be?
Starting point is 00:46:00 But when you get right here, it's too much. Because if you get to a point of a certain level of influence it's a slippery slope of putting commerce over individual over humanity I agree
Starting point is 00:46:12 because if you want to take it there and you want to get to an ugly place it could get ugly it's been that way since the beginning of time no doubt
Starting point is 00:46:18 from the Egyptians nigga America was built on slave labor correct humanity over money. The fuck? Right.
Starting point is 00:46:28 U.S. Steel. So, I'm just saying. Microsoft got jail labor. Niggas right now racking packages of Microsoft Office in some fucking jail right now. Packaging. You get what I'm saying? I do. So, that's not new.
Starting point is 00:46:41 So, does it mean that. I find it difficult to say that it's right. Morality and right. I'm not disagreeing. I'm'm just saying it's always the way of the world right so sneakers that we wear uh-huh built in some fucking third world country somewhere somebody yeah yeah yeah it's the way of the world people are always gonna put money over humanity they are and the people that don't are very very, very, very small group of us that may not say, nah, I ain't fucking with that. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:47:11 It's, nah, I'm not cool with making the money that way. And not for nothing-ish. But you are a minority. Them people that you, that minority, a lot of them, if you give them the right amount of money, they'll flip. That is true, too. That is true. Like they say, I mean mean the saying is everybody has
Starting point is 00:47:25 a price and your morals i hear it take this i feel you that's true and that's kind of where we are with facebook as a whole it's just like yes i think they have too much power i do agree they they built it to get there but once you build need, once you build a need and a convenience, fam, you can order anything you want from Amazon and if you got Prime, the odds are
Starting point is 00:47:51 it's going to be on your steps in two days. That is a convenience that niggas are willing to pay for that they don't want to give it up. I agree.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Jeff Bezos could come out tomorrow doing some horrific shit. Like, knock on wood, I'm not. And niggas will be like, eh. Yeah, Amazon is on my list. I got a list of countries I'm not canceling.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I'm going to say this and I'm getting out of it. And that's Amazon. Because I'm out of this. Let's take it to the ground level after this stuff. But even that comes from government's lack of understanding human emotion and need. And that's the irony of it. Yeah. They can't.
Starting point is 00:48:28 So you didn't understand it. How could they? You didn't get it. Somebody else thought about it, came up from it. And now you want to do what exactly? Because basically you're asking, I tell everybody to go watch Antitrust. They say it's the Bill Gates story. I don't
Starting point is 00:48:45 fucking know story about a guy making some shit up in his garage and the big company coming in but you're basically asking the creator to always acquiesce to the opposition or the government or the or the standard or the current structure and it's, if you're going to do that, first of all, the creators don't trust y'all, one. And two, y'all don't update. No, y'all don't have the knowledge to do so. Until another genius comes out and creates some shit. And that's why I'm stepping out of this, because it's a complicated conversation.
Starting point is 00:49:20 It is. Now, to bring this back to ground level, I saw so many people let's just talk about fucking habitual habits just habits just cory brought it up all the times that uh you went to try to refresh instagram just instinctually while it was down boy was that telling if you take a look at yourself for a second. I didn't even know it was down. I told y'all before. I'm currently on a Twitter break right now.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I told y'all before. When I go on them breaks, I delete the app off the phone. That's what I did too. Because it's mental to unlock my phone and just go right there. I deleted Instagram. I deleted my Twitter app off my phone. You want to be LeBron so bad. Nah, it's not.
Starting point is 00:50:02 It's really just. You do. You bald now too. Nah, I'm going to get the shit he got actually. But. Yeah, you changing. We're going in. Yeah, you are.
Starting point is 00:50:10 But nah, like you have to recondition yourself to not do certain things. Like. It's easier said than done. A lot of people don't have that strength. Bruh. They don't have. My mother caught me. My mom was like, yo, I need you to swing by the house
Starting point is 00:50:25 I think my internet fucking up I was like Well she didn't say fuck But I was like What's wrong My Facebook not working My grandmother caught me Yo I can't get on Facebook
Starting point is 00:50:35 You lying I think the internet is down Or something What you think Nana's saying Yo that's crazy The internet is down For your grandmother Because I can't get on Facebook
Starting point is 00:50:44 My grandmother is 80 years old Nana did you check Yahoo Did you check Google The internet is down. For your grandmother. Because I can't get on Facebook. My grandmother is 80 years old. Nana, did you check Yahoo? Did you check Google? She don't check nothing else. They go straight to Facebook. And I'll take it a step further than that. That's how Nana know when it's friend beef in her circle. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Like, why our friend ain't like that picture? Why Shirley ain't like that picture? Little church picture. I came from church. She was in church. Didn't say a word to me. Shirley was mad my hat was bigger than hers. That's fun when you start getting into that action, too. But whatever.
Starting point is 00:51:11 We'll skip it. We'll skip it. Go ahead now. See, that's the shit I want to see on my Facebook, but I won't because it's not the algorithm. But yo, didn't it start there? It did. It started there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:20 So we can't kind of blame this nigga for where shit went. Yo, at what point can y'all get a little less mature no i want to get i want to get to the ground level no that was awesome but on the ground level fuck fuck what you were doing instinctually it was damn how many of us down here that make our make our fucking bones from this shit we're a little distraught. Well, that's the other lesson in there. See, that's the important conversation. We done talked about this
Starting point is 00:51:50 for 40 minutes, but god damn. There's a lesson in there. It was way too many of the creators and tastemakers and influencers out there that when this went down... And that ain't right. And that ain't right.
Starting point is 00:52:04 What does it say that ain't right what does it say dog niggas need all right you want to play some big dick shit yeah you whistle blue shut it down before they even get a chance to complain i'm gonna show you nigg promise y'all he didn't share these views he was in a room with 70 niggas that would have disagreed adamant that's the word vehemently get the shit off around me i ain't do nothing I don't care what you think go ahead no niggas was
Starting point is 00:52:47 like my homie was like think about what he was in that moment what the fuck Justin LaVoy gonna do now no think about where he was in that moment that was funny
Starting point is 00:52:55 if Mark Zuckerberg let's say he might have did it on purpose but wait wait wait time out I'm gonna get to it not funny another one
Starting point is 00:53:02 right before your very eyes switch this business model Justin LaVoy another one it happened with very eyes switch this business model Justin LaVoie another one it happened with our people right in front of our face they be showing you the way and y'all wanna make
Starting point is 00:53:11 fucking jokes I ain't gonna let it happen he means you to death you all came four million of you now he's got network gigs hit show growth
Starting point is 00:53:21 off Instagram he don't even really fuck with y'all no more growth he don't even post them with y'all no more Growth He don't even post them no more No I'm too busy for that Yeah Yeah man
Starting point is 00:53:28 I'm about to say That's a good thing Round of applause Oh okay Round of applause for that man That's a good thing No I just want to highlight To us
Starting point is 00:53:35 Cause we miss it When it's us doing it Oh okay got you That is us doing it We do it too Yeah We can do it We do it
Starting point is 00:53:42 It can be done But go ahead I just want to highlight it. Right now, if Blah Blah Blah came and offered you $200 million and said,
Starting point is 00:53:50 yo, you got to have three days a week and one of those days a week you got to have guests on your show. You've been kind of the I'm not really beat for guests guy, right?
Starting point is 00:54:00 You put a guest on a show every week. How many guests you want? Yo, you have a list of guests. We're making this shit every week. Oh, yeah. Yo, a nigga... How many guests do you want, actually? Yo, you'll have a list of guests. We're making this shit a posse cut, motherfucker. Yo, the symphony. Bro. I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:54:14 We're going to get some guests going. So that's my point. That's some guests happening. That's my point. Fam, that's my point. You're going to get Foxy Brown tomorrow come and sit on this fucking couch. That's my point. So again that's my point. You go get Foxy Brown tomorrow, come sit on this fucking couch. That's my point.
Starting point is 00:54:27 So again, you might start right here, but in your ascension and in your growth, you're going to have to modify it. You got to change. You have to. No doubt. Creators, I know y'all laughed at me for wanting information from Spotify, and I know all y'all told me that I wasn't worth whatever y'all thought I was asking for from Spotify, but we're in the same boat.
Starting point is 00:54:45 So let me tell it to you now. Get your analytics. Get your information. Get your emails. Build a website. Get your emails. Don't depend on just one of people can communicate to never be in a position to where if middleman goes down, you gotta go down.
Starting point is 00:55:10 And I gotta say that because there's too many of us successful now from this shit. So, I mean, that's like yesteryear's problems. That was us in 2016, 2017 if Instagram went down. It was like,
Starting point is 00:55:22 what did we do? Man, you see people lose their shit when their page got deleted. Exactly. Instagram going down. It was like, oh, what did we do? Man, you see people lose their shit when their page got deleted. Exactly. Instagram going down. You just lost your page. That nigga Bootsy was begging. Come on,
Starting point is 00:55:32 Mr. Zuckerberg, man. I didn't mean it. He was begging, dog. That nigga said, yo, I make money from this platform.
Starting point is 00:55:39 We can get into Bootsy right now if y'all want. Like, yo, I make money from this platform, dog. Bootsy did. getting a booty right now if y'all want.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Like, yo, I make money from this platform, dog. What booty did? Both of y'all signed at the same time? Yeah, man. What booty did, man?
Starting point is 00:55:58 All right, well, I want to only report on R&B. Everybody was on tour. The tour we discussed last week. Was it Legends of the Streets tour? Okay, right, right. That I said I would be apprehensive to go to. Right?
Starting point is 00:56:15 Yo, it's just funny. That's what I said. All right, get your shit on. So allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. I'm just saying what I heard Or what I read This not my bag
Starting point is 00:56:26 Go ahead Supposedly Boosie came So why you starting Cause y'all acting like Puss Alonymous That ain't do a shit That ain't do a shit That ain't do a shit
Starting point is 00:56:34 No no no listen Cause it don't start here I'll ride with you I'll talk to you But it don't start with you saying Listen Lights Out Festival is cancelled I'm sad
Starting point is 00:56:43 Wait what Let's start there The Lights Out Festival is canceled. I'm sad. Wait, what? Let's start there. The Light South Festival is canceled. The Her Festival, the R&B shit that I've been- You've been hyping this shit up for a fucking- Worst bond. You've been on this shit for four months. Every episode.
Starting point is 00:56:55 I am truly saddened by this news. But I would be lying to y'all if I said i was surprised i'm not shocked i'm surprised we keep coming in here talking about you shouldn't be we keep coming in here talking about how outside is open how entertainers are running around getting their money i can't go you couldn't go to greece for your honeymoon i didn't go to greece because vaccination shit is changing rapidly every hour, everywhere. So now you have the Her Festival over here with whatever the government is doing with vaccination, whatever their standards restrictions are. Cool. Let's put that to the side.
Starting point is 00:57:37 So it starts there. It starts at artists are having a difficult time booking venues to tour and perform. Because it's rough out there. Now, you insert the gentleman on this tour. It's Jeezy. It's Gucci. Boosie. It's Boosie.
Starting point is 00:58:00 It's another E. Another E. It's two chains. It's Lil' Kim. Who y two chains. It's Lil' Kim. Who? Y'all think it's Lil' Kim? Y'all keep thinking Lil' Kim is Lil' Kim. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:13 And that's it. And y'all doing the same thing with somebody else. But we'll keep it moving. I don't know what that means, but yeah, keep it moving. I know what it means. We're going to keep it moving. We're going to keep this moving. I know exactly what it means.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I know what it means, but we're going to keep it moving. We're going to keep this moving. I know exactly what it means. Y'all have a tour where I am certain those phone calls in the respective cities, I know what it sound like. I know what it sound like. Y'all might not know what it sound like. Let me tell you what it sound like. Dogs. Sure.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Yo, such and such called. They wanted to shut this down. Hey, we got threats from over here. Hey, big investors worried about the audience coming out tonight. I can tell you what they sound like. Insert show number one. I don't even know if it was show number one. I think it was two.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Do it fucking matter. No, after show number one. I don't even know if it was show number one. I think it was two. Do it fucking matter. No, after show number one. It don't matter. Insert an early show. Early show, yeah. And whatever happened, because watching the video, I don't know what happened.
Starting point is 00:59:19 I still don't know what happened. I just know that it was some shit on stage and Boosie had to defend himself per himself. Oh, that's what he said. Yeah, he said, I had to defend myself. Life was on the line. What y'all want me to do? Y'all can't get me off of this tour because I'm defending myself.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Boosie, yes they can. And when I read this, I say, well, if there was one tour, one tour where they couldn't have any play play it's this one it's this tour it's this one this is the tour fam this is the tour fam
Starting point is 00:59:50 the margin for error I've been on the margin for error here Slim I've been on the safest tours in the world and they don't play with them tour guidelines you in other cities
Starting point is 00:59:58 you in other states you in enemy territory whatever you want to fucking call it but you moving around and you know how you gotta move if you in this thing Investors are worried
Starting point is 01:00:07 They're worried about the safe people So what the fuck you think Was going on here? So what happened? Someone came up on stage And got in a fight or something like that? I don't know We don't know
Starting point is 01:00:16 Boosie performed He was in his second song And a brawl broke out on stage From what I heard I don't know the details He came mad late they said allegedly. He came mad late and they didn't want him to get on
Starting point is 01:00:29 like you missed your spot. And they said he was like nigga fuck out of here. And they said somebody else was supposed to be going on next and he ran out there. And they was trying to get him off the stage like the security allegedly was trying to get him off the stage like the security
Starting point is 01:00:45 allegedly was trying to get him off the stage so that somebody else could come up. I don't have to know what happened. If there's one tour where one thing
Starting point is 01:00:52 can't happen is that this is the tour. This is definitely the tour. This is the tour. They had a very, very, very short leash on this tour
Starting point is 01:00:59 for any type of problems. So is the whole tour canceled? No. Oh, okay. So what happened, I believe it was North Carolina date, Greensboro. Yeah, Greensboro, North Carolina date.
Starting point is 01:01:11 He announced he wasn't allowed to perform. He said, Ving, you won't let me in. I'm still here. I'm doing the after party that I got booked. I'm still here. And then the next day it was, yo, Boosie's not on the tour anymore.
Starting point is 01:01:28 And if you purchased a ticket for that reason and you want to get your money back you can go get your refund whatever no no so you can't get refunds no he was saying that's his reading of that sign they're saying if you show up here once you come in the venue and use your ticket you can't get a refund like once they scan up here once you come in the venue and use your ticket you can't
Starting point is 01:01:46 get a refund like once they scan the ticket and you're in the venue but if you want a refund get one prior to entering the venue and letting them scan your ticket that's what they were saying and in terms of my as far as my uh lights out festival depression goes uh her is performing in dc on the octoberth, I want to say. Okay. I'm going to D.C. See, that's why I thought you were talking about that. I'm going to D.C. to see her perform.
Starting point is 01:02:11 That's why I thought you were saying that you weren't surprised that some shit happened. Well, it's New York. New York. I'm not surprised in New York because of what's going on with COVID and vaccination and these venues in New York. Everywhere else. California, too. Yeah. Maybe Cali, too. I haven't been. I don't know what's going on with COVID and vaccination and these venues in New York. Everywhere else. California, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Maybe Cali, too. I haven't been. I don't know what's going on. They even talk about for the NBA starting up, basically, you can't come to work. So they forced Wiggins to get vaccinated. No, they didn't. Yes, they did. No, they didn't.
Starting point is 01:02:41 No, they didn't. And we ain't going to do that. And we're not going to turn this into a vaccination pod. No, we're not. They didn't force him to do it. And we're not going to turn this into a vaccination pod. No, we're not. They didn't force him to do it. He could have not done it. I know, but. He chose.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Then you don't come to work for 40 days. You still made your choice. He chose, dog. I disagree on what you're saying. He chose. But it's not a force. He chose. He chose.
Starting point is 01:02:57 He chose. And that's the position that many Americans are going to be in. We was joking around about it just on the travel vacation tip. Like, yo, you want to go somewhere but that vaccination ain't gonna make it tough but like over here they're gonna make you not go to work they're gonna take this shit a step further you're not gonna be able to renew your license yeah i don't think that's force no you can still not do it it's not force it's not force i know what you're saying i get what you're trying to say somebody's gonna take your driver's license and take your ability to feed you and your kids that's not force it's
Starting point is 01:03:29 not force okay still because you're playing semantics now yes no no i am i'm not because sports are private entities i'm not playing semantics sports they can say whatever the fuck they want to say and you don't have to be a part of this privileged private club. I ain't part of the club no way, so I don't care, but I would assume Andrew Wiggins wants to play ball. Now, I don't think that Andrew Wiggins can't make a living for himself outside of sports. I don't believe that.
Starting point is 01:03:58 I don't believe that. But the living that you want to make and that you've been afforded your whole life, yeah, it's forced by that. That's for anybody. By that. That's what I'm saying. If you work'm saying anybody's job if you work for atl but i ain't gonna call it forced cap sat down cap sat down we've seen some people sit down he did sit down no he wanted to work he wanted to come back to work it's a very big difference he didn't voluntarily stop working in the nfl he wanted to come back and he publicly said I'll come back
Starting point is 01:04:25 and I'll even play a backup role. Them niggas didn't hire him. He didn't sit down. He wanted to come back. It's a very big difference. After he sat down. No, he made his protest
Starting point is 01:04:35 then he wanted to come back. After he sat down. When he first sat down he was saying I will not play as long as you guys do whatever. If I can't kneel
Starting point is 01:04:43 I won't play. The mortgage just had his ass down for a few years. Yeah, but then he got that Nike deal. play as long as you guys do whatever. If I can't kneel, I won't play. The mortgage just started kicking in. Yeah, but then he got that Nike deal. We didn't talk about him in Des Bryant's exchange or Des Bryant's message to him. We didn't get into it. We'll do it later. We'll do it later.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Come on, let's move on. Let's move on off of. I hope the rest of the tour goes on without a hitch. Same, because Ice wanted to go to this tour. Yeah, I was going to go down to Baltimore to go to the tour, because it ain't coming up here. Speaking of shows I wanted to go to, Usher added two new shows for December. Some of y'all don't care. I think it's big.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Oh, no, we already did. He added that for the 23rd and 24th, Christmas Eve and Christmas Eve Eve. I ain't doing that one, 5. I'm not doing that one either. Yeah, no. But it don't matter. It'll tell you what time it is. Too much money out there. He out there, though. Christmas either. Yeah, no. But it don't matter. It'll tell you what time it is. Too much money out there.
Starting point is 01:05:25 He out there, though. Christmas Eve. Fuck my kids. I'm going to Vegas. God damn it. Bring the kids. Bring them. No, sir.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Bring them. But he will. This tells me he will be there for New Year's, though. It's coming. But no, he was already there for New Year's. He was already there. That's the show I was going to. He was already there.
Starting point is 01:05:40 He was there, right? He was already there for New Year's. He was off. He was off now. He was doing this off the top of He was doing At New Year's Eve he was doing the 13th, 14th, 15th and then doing the 28th, 29th something like that.
Starting point is 01:05:51 You might as well fill them dates up. Why not go get this money? We got mad tickets. Overwhelming. This shit sold out in 10 minutes. You might as well book them. Yeah, you want to open up some other dates, don't you?
Starting point is 01:06:02 Don't you? I can get a tree here. I can give you a tree. I ain't going to Christmas Eve, though. Don't do that. Uh-oh. You're too old for this. Too young for this.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Oh, man. 88. Oh, my God. You know what I'm saying? And there ain't no half-stepping. What? Just give me a minute. Give me a minute, man. They want to get some. Time to set straight, you know what I'm sayin'? And there ain't no half steppin', but I'm ready Y'all just give me a minute, give me a minute, man
Starting point is 01:06:26 I'm steppin' to me, they wanna get some But I'm the king, so yo, you know the outcome I'm not the victory, they can't get with me So make a BC date, cause you're history I'm the authentic poet to get lyrical For you to beat me, it's gonna take a miracle And I'm steppin' to me, yo, that's the wrong move So what you on, ho? Dope a dog, dope a dog
Starting point is 01:06:45 Uh-oh Where you was at, Parks? 88 Kindergarten? Yeah, same I was about to say You serious? Yes!
Starting point is 01:06:57 Yeah! I told you, son Maybe not even kindergarten I might have been in pre-K No, I guess I would have been in kindergarten, yeah World's five Yeah All jokes aside Oh, man That being said I might have been in pre-K. No, I guess I would have been in kindergarten. That was five. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:06 All jokes aside. Oh, man. That being said, when I grew up, I went back and listened. See, I did. The B-I-G-D-A-W-D-Y-K-A-N-E? All that. Oh, man. That's when we differ.
Starting point is 01:07:16 I didn't. Why not? He was in L.A. with Eazy-E in him. I don't. Listen, I'm not making no jokes or nothing. This is before my time. And that's okay. What you doing?
Starting point is 01:07:36 I don't know how he got there. Yeah. I'm lost as hell. I'm going to let him cook though because he know what he doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We get to fucking with them buttons and shit
Starting point is 01:07:45 Buttonism It's God man I don't know Big Daddy came for me Was Well the next Versus has been announced Big Daddy came for me Big Daddy came
Starting point is 01:07:58 Versus Karis one I get what you're doing now That nigga came in on some bumblebee shit Y'all have to take it away We discussed this briefly on the call right over here I'm gonna laugh Shut up Shut up!
Starting point is 01:08:27 Shut up! Why you want to shut up? Let me intro it and move. You getting out of the way? I'm getting out of the way. Y'all not doing this to me on no part. Y'all not going to
Starting point is 01:08:39 shatter my fucking childhood because I got a podcast to do. Suck my dick. Fuck y'all. Fuck all of you. Wait, what's your issue? Hey, no. You won't get me either, Parks.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Come on. Boogie down, head ass Nick. No. No. Oh, is this a Big Daddy Kane thing versus... I see what you... I see the issue. I see the issue. ass Nick. No. Oh, is this a Big Daddy Kane thing?
Starting point is 01:09:05 I see the issue. It's the issue saying the issue. Yeah, I know. I see. I don't think it's going to be that far apart though. I don't either. I don't either. Chris ain't for play play though. I don't either. Everybody.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Chris ain't for play play though. Man. I'm sorry. Yo, go ahead. We could PC our way through. Let me get your options. We could PC our way through this. No, we're going to give it a look at it.
Starting point is 01:09:37 We could shut up and let Ish do it. This is Ish's ISO. If there was ever to be an Ish ISO. I'm talking and I'm getting out of the way. Listen, I'm sick of verses. I'm sick of verses. I'm sick of verses. Y'all will not take my childhood heroes and force me to take a look in the mirror.
Starting point is 01:09:55 It's not going to happen. Big Daddy Kane is too important. Y'all not doing no. And the whole juice group. Not for nothing. No and no and no. I don't care. I don and no. I don't care. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I don't care. They're not doing it. Because y'all trying to make us, this is what you're trying to make nerdy backpacker hip hop do. We have to pick one. This is the problem. All of us know about KRS-One. Yeah. But we never say it.
Starting point is 01:10:25 We never say it. He's like the fucking Busta Rhymes of that generation. Nah, he's bigger than the Busta Rhymes. He's bigger than that. I know. No disrespect to Busta Rhymes. I know, I know. You're all right.
Starting point is 01:10:33 But what I'm saying is just in the sheer fact that we never really try to place them. You don't. You can't. You don't. Shut up. You don't. You can't.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Nobody does. No, but we don't even try. We don't even try. Y'all have these top five, top 10, top 20 talks every year, all year, for 40 years. And we don't even try. I knew why. I never questioned why. Why would you do that?
Starting point is 01:11:05 Leave that nigga alone. Then I went and did the Rock the Bells tour. Something like that. And KRS-One was the host. As an older gentleman. KRS-One still is going to stand outside the venue three hours before he's supposed to be there and talk to every fan there
Starting point is 01:11:26 about hip-hop and its inception. Absolutely. Just in case you don't know. He also, when he hosts the event, is going to project his voice in a manner that you don't think his old ass should still be able to do. He's going to project
Starting point is 01:11:42 better than all of the active rappers. I can't remember who he did a cypher with. It was the same year you did the one with Nicki, I want to say.
Starting point is 01:11:50 He did a cypher with a bunch of people, whoever it was. And he smoked everything. Started rapping about what was on the floor and all that other shit. All that shit.
Starting point is 01:11:57 And each time, we probably did six, seven takes like we usually do. He did a different rhyme, just freestyle. He was freestyle rhyming looking at the floor.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Started talking about what was on the floor, all that other shit. It's different. Yeah, he different. Chris ain't for play. Are you done? The grander conversation than that, right? When you start talking about his projection and all of this astronomical
Starting point is 01:12:23 stuff, then you just start looking at the way his face is structured and the way his face is made up. I'm speaking about me now. I'm looking at this guy's cheeks, his fucking neck. How does somebody project that way? Cool, let's get off of that. Then he gets in his political shit. Can't let him get there.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Oh, my God, that's horrible. Right? So all of these things exist about KRS-One, and then the more you think about him the more you remember that every song of his stadium music yeah in the 80s when we wasn't allowed in stadiums it sounds that way if you played in a stadium now i know that because i went on tour with eminem and he was in wimbledon or wimbley whatever the fuck it's called with a hundred thousand people you could fit in there and know they're playing chorus one. If you ever hear that,
Starting point is 01:13:06 if you ever hear that before the drums drop and before the before it all drop. It's still, it's still smack. Yeah. It's different.
Starting point is 01:13:16 I am not going to let y'all make me say how this is going to happen. Nope. I will enjoy it. Toss it to my co-host. Because no. No.
Starting point is 01:13:33 But Kane got... Listen. Big Daddy Kane and KRS-One are in my top ten of life. Reasonable. Very reasonable. Big Daddy Kane's the man. The man. Big Daddy Kane growing up For us How do I put it
Starting point is 01:13:49 He was Jay-Z Yeah he was hove Yeah He was Jay-Z Right You don't gotta think about it He was hove He was Jay-Z
Starting point is 01:13:56 Like he was That dude Like yo he really Like it was Rakim Don't get it fucked up Rakim was around And KRS-One Them three right there Yeah Was like That was it Like, yo, he really, like, it was Rakim. Don't get it fucked up. Rakim was around in KRS-One.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Them three right there was like, that was it. And Big Daddy Kane was the man, too, because he had the girls. No, but that was, like, them three niggas was on the Rushmore of that era, right? Until the early 90s came when Illmatic came out and the Woo niggas came. And they start taking hip hop on a different trajectory. But when I was a kid, my nigga, from fifth, probably like fourth grade to like ninth grade, them niggas was gods, bro. No doubt.
Starting point is 01:14:36 They still are. Like them, no. Like them niggas, like Big Daddy Kane was Jay-Z, B. Right. This is going to be interesting. KRS-One got a lot of shit. And he's just a battle versus type of dude. Big Daddy Kane, though?
Starting point is 01:14:54 He got joints, bro. But no one's going to be crazy, though. They friends. Like, they really are friends, right? Like, I've heard a story when big daddy came let me tell you let me interrupt you a little and i want to preface all of this with saying i have no business talking about big daddy king ever he's an idol so i'm not no you're not dissing him I ain't saying nothing about him I know So look
Starting point is 01:15:25 You won't get me to do it Big Daddy Kane told a story When he was younger About when he started Fucking with the Juice Crew Cause you know the Juice Crew Niggas was beefing with Boogie Down Productions
Starting point is 01:15:34 And he was like the Forerunner He had stepped on the scene And became that dude For the Juice Crew Like that was the most Respected artist And they was trying to tell him
Starting point is 01:15:45 to shoot at KRS-One and he was like, nah. And the nigga told a personal story of when Miss Melody and fucking Chris helped him carry his shit down a four-story walk-up
Starting point is 01:15:58 and move into his new apartment. Mm. Like, that's how much, you know what I mean? Like, a nigga come help you move, that's your man.
Starting point is 01:16:04 That's your man. Like, in a walk- come help you move That's your man That's your man Like in a walk up That's your man So hopefully They don't be out for the Blood on the verses And it's just gonna be a good Hip hop old school show
Starting point is 01:16:16 For everybody involved I see 13-7 Me personally Ish You disagree Joe? You my man You my man for real What man? And you, Joe? You my man. You my man, for real, for real. What, man?
Starting point is 01:16:27 And you my man. So you my man. But when we sit down and play Monopoly, you be trying to kill me. And I be trying to kill you. It's who you are. It's who we are. It's our competitive nature.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Indeed. I'm only 41. I'm a little young. All I know of KRS-One is competitive nature. It's old school hip hop competing. Spoonie G, Puma D.
Starting point is 01:16:57 He cut from that. Yeah. He cut from that. He probably invented that. He cut from that. Maybe somebody can make the argument that Karras One invented that. And then if I just want to get on a grand, a more grand level of thinking,
Starting point is 01:17:14 you know how Karras One is the man? Like, if we think of all the street crews in hip hop, all of them that ever existed, and all of them going out to pick their breadwinner cause a lot of hip hop is based in that Kares 1's probably it
Starting point is 01:17:33 what you mean no it's not we gonna argue you ain't gonna name 5 what do you mean you ain't gonna name 5 more when you say that breadwinner
Starting point is 01:17:42 you gonna say Hov you gonna say X. Rap crews. Yes. And what they have done in history. Rap. He didn't have a crew. He was solo.
Starting point is 01:17:58 He's talking about something different, I think. Maybe. I'm talking about the crew. I'm talking about Boogie Down Productions. Was they crew? The Jews crew? And they said'm talking about the crew. Boogie Down Productions. Was they crew? The Juice crew? And they said... KRS-One is...
Starting point is 01:18:07 That's the guy. Yes. The Juice crew. Rap against him. That's what I'm talking about. See, the Juice crew had a couple niggas, but the Juice, they had some monsters.
Starting point is 01:18:16 But if you want to say the guy that was the top of the brass in the Juice crew... It was Kane. It was Kane. Yeah. And they had killers. They had G-Rap.
Starting point is 01:18:24 They had G-Rap. They had Craig G. They had killers.Rap. They had G-Rap. They had Craig G. They had killers. I want to bring this back to the point. Their friendship could be what it is. Hopefully. I don't know that that night
Starting point is 01:18:33 KRS-One is going to care. Yeah, I don't know if he will. Fat Joe and Ja Rule was friends. Mm-hmm. Jadakiss and Fab was friends. Mm-hmm. That's a lot of friends. Jadakiss ain't trying to kill him.
Starting point is 01:18:44 And Fab ain't trying to kill him. Wait, what? Wait. I doniss ain't trying to kill him. And Fab ain't trying to kill him. Wait. Wait, what? Wait. I don't think he tried to kill him. I think... You got to watch that again. No, I think a killing took place, but I don't think he tried.
Starting point is 01:18:55 He intentionally... He tried to kill him. He went in there with the monster. He tried to kill Jim Jones. He tried to kill Fats. All of the masses. Beat ain't even dropping. That was like 96. Beat ain't even dropping.
Starting point is 01:19:18 All of the masses. I might not watch that. You ain't even played side of the police yet. I'm not watching this shit. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. Nope. Not doing that to my childhood. Nope. He got to. Sorry. Fam, you talking about
Starting point is 01:19:28 a nigga that could boop, boop, boop his way to the W. The drums ain't dropped. The hook ain't come on yet. It's the fucking... Step into a world You're so stupid.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Island of awesome. But the very best No MC can test What year did this drop? 96, I think. 96, I believe. Damn, that's 96. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:03 In 96, this was the late version of him telling us no MC could test. He spent the whole 80s saying that. Yeah. Look, he still- No, this was his washed up years. This was- You get what I'm saying. No, but this was-
Starting point is 01:20:14 It's never been washed up. This is the latter part. This is the latter part. Sort of, but this is kind of just the end of his- He had a long run. Because the album before this was the one that had MCs act like they don't know and all that. And the album before that was Sound of the Police and all that on there. Like this is just the end of his run.
Starting point is 01:20:30 This wasn't, he was lost and caught once. He just had a long fucking run that people don't really give enough respect. We just got this business made for every day of our lives. Yes, yes, y'all. You don't stop. KRS-One. Rock on. Yes, yes, y'all. You don't stop.
Starting point is 01:20:59 KRS-One. Rock on. I'm about to hit you with that. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Don't say nothing.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Let me tell you who you're dealing with. This is in 96. He let the beat rock. He started with an acapella. He gave you a 16-bar hook and then gave you probably four more bars of hook before he got to his verse. That's what he did in 96. He ain't rapped yet.
Starting point is 01:21:24 I'm two minutes in there. And this is a point against anything. I don't care what you say. Yeah. Listen, man. I love Kane. And I like Kane better, I think. I can see why you wouldn't do that.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Because he makes more R&B-flavored music. He was just a lyrical. He made smoother music. When I was young, and that's why it's interesting with Kane. It wasn't even about R&B. I was too young to realize or to even know that people were saying Kane went mainstream. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Because he still had bars. Yeah, he still had bars. But it didn't matter. I didn't have the understanding to know how the game worked and this guy could rap but he's got a hit single i didn't know none of that so i was like it's job done i work like i was young with that yeah but came when he did he did the him versus uh what is it him versus his brother him versus somebody he did that way before anybody was thinking about doing it. He versus himself.
Starting point is 01:22:26 And he killed himself. Smoked that shit. Like, all that album cut early, early, early Kane. That's what made me love Kane. Sure. Because Kane was the only one, put a cord on your ass, you played yourself. Like, that was the only place I was getting that. He was witty, yo. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:39 I'll make a muscle, grab the mic and hustle. Like, that nigga was different, bro. KRS was more political than I was. Which is why he was one of my first favorite rappers. And it took me later. It wasn't until Love's Gonna Get Ya that I really had a proper understanding of what K.R.S. 1 was about.
Starting point is 01:23:00 See, I'm older than y'all. So that nigga was talking ignorant shit in Criminal Minded. Absolutely. Well, you're back to Criminal Minded. You know what I'm older than y'all. So, that nigga was talking ignorant shit in Criminal Minded. Absolutely. Well, you back to Criminal Minded. You got what I'm saying? Like, that nigga was talking ignorant shit. I was a baby when Criminal Minded. The pussy is free, but the crack costs money, nigga.
Starting point is 01:23:14 Like, that nigga was saying some shit when I was in fifth grade, in sixth grade. I would have liked to have seen KRS-One against Ice Cube. I don't like KRS-One versus Big Daddy Kane. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it as a matchup. I don't know if I like that matchup either. I don't know either, but...
Starting point is 01:23:35 I don't love this one. I mean, I'm going to watch it because you're putting it in front of my face and it's to the point like they're doing a whole versus weekend. So the first night they got a bunch of fights along with a super cat performance. And then the next night is Big Daddy Cannon Karras one.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Oh, OK. The culture one. The culture one. I don't have a winner. Yeah. I'm going to watch. I'm going to love this. And I might go to that shit.
Starting point is 01:23:59 I just hit my pops. I was going to send them to it because this is his bag. Karras. Like I said, Karras is. I might want to go to this. I would have a seizure if I went there. I'm saying 13-7. That's my call, 13-7.
Starting point is 01:24:10 I'm not calling. I don't know if I'll make a call. I'm not doing it. That's cool. I feel you, though. I'm not going to watch it. Like, lean on me. Like, he got some shit rhyming with biz.
Starting point is 01:24:18 The symphony gets a point. Yeah. It's, he could thug his way to seven, I think. Ice would not be watching this. Who could thug his way to seven I think Ice will not be watching this Who can thug their way to seven? Big Daddy K You can't do that dog I didn't do nothing You did
Starting point is 01:24:41 You whooped us That's the sound of the police That's the sound of the police That's the sound of the police. That's the sound of the police. That's the sound of the police. That's the sound of the police. That's the sound of the police. That beat is ridiculous. He could cut it off there with one.
Starting point is 01:25:02 I don't want to talk about this anymore. I don't want to talk about this anymore I don't want to talk about this anymore Big Daddy Kane is an all time great for me I don't care who wins this I don't care who wins There's nothing you can do to change my fucking image Of Big Daddy Kane Who he is How he's still performing
Starting point is 01:25:17 He also has a podcast out Does he really? Not out yet but it's coming Dope He's got a podcast coming out Chris needs one too He's said to have sat with all of the greats already
Starting point is 01:25:25 Hov Em whoever's Cole and that makes sense cause everyone in the world holds Big Daddy Kane in the light that
Starting point is 01:25:34 Big Daddy Kane should be held in and you're not gonna use K.R.S. one to get me to think otherwise I don't care he had a little
Starting point is 01:25:41 joint on y'all album that didn't drop didn't he I don't know and I don't care I don't care I know oh a little joint on your album that didn't drop, didn't he? Like a little piece. I don't know, and I don't care. He did. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:25:47 I know. Oh, yeah, Kane did. I was on the Glasshouse album that never dropped. He's the man, man. I'm not doing this. Kane is the fucking man. I'm not doing this with you. No, he's amazing.
Starting point is 01:25:54 He's the fucking man. I don't care who wins. Me either. Me either, and I'm serious. But that's good. All right. Even though I jokingly say I'm not going to watch. That is good, though, when-
Starting point is 01:26:04 I think you should. I think you should watch this shit and be like i understand a little bit more cool um i think it's dope when you can watch look at a versus and say i don't care who wins though like i like all the music that's gonna be played that's what i'm talking about like you both y'all are saying i don't care who wins i'm gonna be entertained just by the fact that it's them two up there that's all i. That's all. I'm going to this shit. I think that because I'm 45. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:26:28 And I love these niggas. Like, have I seen Big Daddy Kane getting jumped when I was a kid? I was jumping in it. Like, that nigga was somebody for us, dog. Like, Allen Iverson. Like, niggas from the hood hold Allen Iverson. Like, yo, I never met that nigga. Have I seen somebody punch Allen Iverson?
Starting point is 01:26:44 We jumping in that type of shit. That nigga was somebody when we was kids, yo. He still is somebody. No, I'm talking about. I feel you. I get exactly what you're saying. It's different. Y'all held him.
Starting point is 01:26:54 Like, that nigga was. Yeah, bro. Like, niggas wanted that shit he had on. Niggas wanted to wear that shit he had on, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, that nigga was somebody, bro. Like, that nigga. Niggas don't wear that shit he had on, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, that nigga was somebody, bro. Like, that nigga... Niggas don't know who that is.
Starting point is 01:27:09 They need a hip-hop union. They do, yo. But this type of shit is good. That's why I'm saying, Ice, you should watch it. Because, like, I feel like you might learn something, man. Like, I think this would be a good thing for people to watch that don't really understand why we regard these gentlemen in this regard. Or how far we've come, bro.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Like, how far we've come. Like, I don't know they personal financials, but the Jay-Zs, the Puffs, the Swizzes, the M's that have amassed a certain amount of wealth, that is as a result of these niggas. No doubt. You know what I'm saying? This is the first generation of super duper stars. Roxanne Shante said, yo, they was beating people's airlines.
Starting point is 01:27:49 They was stealing flights. You know what I'm saying? Like when they was going on tour, they didn't have enough money. They was stealing flights. Big Daddy Kane and them niggas was a part of the Juice crew. They was on them tours.
Starting point is 01:27:58 So I don't know, they might have been making $500, $1,000 shows, whatever the case may be. Now niggas is $100 million in, a billion dollars in. As a result, are they grind? I don't rap without a Big Daddy cane. At the very least. I don't know the status
Starting point is 01:28:13 of these gentlemen's records, but I would hope at the very least that some... I would like for the billionaire people in our culture to buy their masters and give them to them. That would be dope. At least. I would like for 0.1% of all recording contracts signed majorly moving forward
Starting point is 01:28:33 to be allocated to all artists that contributed majorly to the culture. I feel you. That's what I would like. Then you're opening the door, so who falls into that category and who doesn't yeah it gets great
Starting point is 01:28:46 so you know it's real clear it's real clear we going by they we going by them the consensus so if you have an album amongst artists
Starting point is 01:28:54 or two distributed on a major label then you should be a fucking applicable to whatever this new fund is. Or owned by a major label, because a lot of these old catalogs got gobbled up by major labels.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Or owned by. Or owned by. If you indie, all indie, and have always been only indie, then this allocated money, when the major goes public, they wouldn't be coming to see you. So it's the same rules, in effect. It's real easy. No, Joe, I mean, to what artists that would apply to, as in, like, who can you say are the ones that opened the door, et cetera?
Starting point is 01:29:29 Because there's a lot of rappers from that era that might not, everybody don't qualify to. All. I said all. There's no exemptions. If we have a fund, hey, if the O'Bannon lawsuit led to every former player having $100 million to divvy up between all of them, then it's divvied up between all of them. It's not, oh, they was getting buckets back then. No, it ain't that. You did it.
Starting point is 01:29:56 You was here. Your mere presence contributed. Whether it was three beats you made. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Those three bleats might have been something. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, noats might have been something. You should get that. Mark 45 King did
Starting point is 01:30:07 legend. Niggas don't know who that is. I only know him because he's from our hood. He's from our hood. Mark 45 King has a crazy career. I hate to old head, but fuck it, we're here. We're old heading this whole time. He had all these fucking smashes in the 80s and 90s, right? Disappears, comes back and gives Eminem and Jay-Z
Starting point is 01:30:24 their breakthrough singles. That nigga's turned down. They ain't want Hard Knock Life. That's crazy. Niggas didn't even want him. He gave Stan and Hard Knock Life out in a year. Here.
Starting point is 01:30:32 That's crazy. I'm just saying, so niggas don't know what that is, but it applies to him. The nigga's been influential in hip hop. That's a super... You know what's been
Starting point is 01:30:43 stumping me all weekend? And this is stupid, but it's's been stumping me all weekend? And this is stupid, but it's still been stumping me. Like, who invented entertainment? Court Jesters were back in yesteryear. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Like, they were the entertainment for kings, but. I'm sure it must go back to even like, probably go back before then. To artwork on caves and shit
Starting point is 01:31:03 was probably something that was communal. Man, that was a funny motherfucker before. That motherfucker that was beating on drums. That too.
Starting point is 01:31:09 He was the one that got it jumping. Well, when I get my mind past how that person feels about the 360 deal. When I get my mind past that part,
Starting point is 01:31:22 you know what really stumps me about that? About who invented entertainment? Somebody that was bored. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Duh, they didn't have television. You was wealthy.
Starting point is 01:31:34 You paid them off. You way at the end of the word. No, no, no. I'm just saying, you paid a motherfucker to entertain you and your wife. But really think about that. That's what happens. All of the entertainment and whatever stems from it boredom somebody at some point in time in the universe was bored and pulled
Starting point is 01:31:52 something really great for the rest of us out of their problem they had a problem they was tight hey i'm all mad that the new new Dave special ain't drop on time. Hey, this nigga was looking everywhere for some fun. Chicks wasn't selling pussy. He wasn't. No, they was. They was selling some pot. He didn't find it.
Starting point is 01:32:16 He didn't know where they was at. Yeah, they did. He didn't know where they was at. He just didn't have the means to get it. He didn't have the means to get it. No, no, that's not true. He wrote mad messages in the bottle, throwing them shits all over the ocean. He threw them shits everywhere.
Starting point is 01:32:26 The problem is they didn't want the bottle. They wanted the gold. He ain't had the gold. Yeah, Tammy and them down there was giving out box. No, they were selling it. They were selling that box. They were selling it. To who, though?
Starting point is 01:32:34 To the nigga that called 40. Same thing as today. I got ivory over here. Yeah. You see these elephants we got over here? I got a toilet. I got a pig. Come get this pig.
Starting point is 01:32:47 How do we always get to somebody selling pussy? Your brains. My brains. I didn't say nothing about it. You did say. All right, come on, move on, move on, move on. What's next? What's next?
Starting point is 01:32:57 Summer Walker has announced her album is dropping November 5th. Round of applause. I've been waiting for it. A applause. I've been waiting for it. A lot of us have been waiting for it. She made the official announcement. Had to wait a day because Instagram was down. Look, Instagram get down, and now y'all can't even tell us that your gift is coming.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Word. Think about that, dog. Think about it. Think about it. It is sick. Y'all couldn't post pictures. You couldn't look at your friend's pics. He was double tapping shit.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Let's really put this into perspective. How fucking sick this is. Couldn't see what your friend was doing in the stories. Couldn't see what complete strangers were doing. the perspective how fucking sick this is. Couldn't see what your friend was doing in the stories. Couldn't see what complete strangers were doing. Couldn't read the comments. What are they saying about me?
Starting point is 01:33:52 What do they think of me? Fuck that. They didn't get their notification of the likes. But you know that's what it's all about. Y'all are fucking... It was.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Pulling all day with no notification of the likes. They was probably going through a draw for real, man. I think that this Summer Walker album is going to be phenomenal. I do. I've been saying it for a while.
Starting point is 01:34:12 I've heard nothing to get me off of that take. We have no evidence that it would be anything less than that. And much like my Miguel breakup take, much like my Miguel breakup take really excited that London has been giving Summer the business for these last few months and we'll hear about it in song format I am
Starting point is 01:34:34 I am she even told us last week she told us this before she announced the album news she said yo dawgs I'm gonna discuss this soon I was like uh oh I know what that mean I know what that means. I know what that means.
Starting point is 01:34:46 That means she just approved the release date with the label. Bullshit is on the way. I can't wait. London's going to have a tough week if this album is good. I'm pretty sure this album is going to be good. This album is going to be good. Yeah. It's going to be good.
Starting point is 01:35:00 It is. Now. One thing about her, with the music, she comes with it. Like, all the other shit that come with her, I get the jokes, I get the comments, but she come with the music, though. Now, what I will say, and I'm not going to nitpick a black woman's release. Not my place. Not my business.
Starting point is 01:35:17 If this album is a month away, and summer is summer, we all expect fire. Mm-hmm. What the hell are y'all doing with how this is being rolled out? She just tweeted some shit, Instagrammed some shit, and now it's a month away. We heard a new song, a new nothing. They put this little JT shit out. JT been out of jail.
Starting point is 01:35:35 This don't tell me nothing. This don't tell me nothing. This is too big of a release. Fam, fam. But I'm shutting up. I might be early. I might be early. You saying this don't tell you nothing.
Starting point is 01:35:46 We know her last project, what it was. Her telling you the title was still over it. Her with the whole same shit from the last joint. This is telling me everything. I don't need a lot. I don't need nothing else. I know what I'm getting. And this is what she's telling you.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Yo, that shit right there, I got more of it for you. Oh, then we'll see. Then we'll see. I like this. I like this over the bullshit rollouts. Yo,
Starting point is 01:36:12 it's coming. Here's the date. Here you go. No, I like that part. You're saying it's out of the usual. We have nothing else to pull from.
Starting point is 01:36:23 You're saying it's out of the usual. I like that part. And if she hits this out of the park, I'm going to love it even more. But if she don't, then we'll revisit it. I don't think she'll miss. No.
Starting point is 01:36:38 And I do like the just doing what the fuck I want. Here it is. It's coming next month. Got y'all Instagram was down I'm telling y'all now I do like the intimacy
Starting point is 01:36:47 of it I do especially today I would have liked to hear some music nope any music any music half a song
Starting point is 01:36:55 I don't want to hear it half a snippet I don't want no snippet even like SZA did drop one record and go away put some other shit on SoundCloud she ain't gave us nothing nope
Starting point is 01:37:02 that could be cause of concern when your producer baby daddy did your whole first album and now you're getting rid of them all together that could be a cause of concern but i'm not gonna think about it no i'ma wait i'ma wait they got a good collective over there i think she'll be all right i think she's gonna be not only that but rmb is rmb is so great it like it takes more than one dominant person to affect things. And not only that, I've seen what the rest of y'all put out. That too. That's true.
Starting point is 01:37:34 I've seen y'all. And wait, say that some more. No, I ain't done. Say that some more. I've seen all of that. I don't have to go first. Yeah, the bar ain't. Okay, cool. No, the bar is high, but again. I don't got to go first. Yeah. I don't have to go first. Yeah, the bar ain't. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:37:45 No, the bar is high, but again, I don't got to go first. The bar ain't up. It ain't all the way up there. I hate to be the bearer of bad news. What? She might not know it. The bar is high. What's the bar?
Starting point is 01:37:58 Cleo Soul. Sure. Her didn't drop. Her dropped. Her did drop but she ain't the bar her ain't the bar 7 Product wasn't bad
Starting point is 01:38:07 as much as that hurts my heart to say her is not the bar the bar is the bar you know what the bar is and Cleo Soul ain't the bar in terms of mainstream
Starting point is 01:38:16 popularity and all of that shit but we know who her bar her peer group is 7 Shit wasn't bad I seen what y'all put out every name that y'all
Starting point is 01:38:25 mentioned with mine I seen it cool I'll be here November 5th I'm not disagreeing well if we do it I'm not disagreeing with what he's saying
Starting point is 01:38:34 well no well stop he is wrong cause if we doing it that way then you haven't seen Scissor and Summer can't do that to Scissor
Starting point is 01:38:42 Summer can't say that if you haven't seen Scissor. Because that would be the bar if we're doing it that way. I'm saying artistically. I don't want to say. Artistically, the sound that all y'all doing, I'll tell you, Cleo Soul's the bar. That's the bar. I would agree with you on that.
Starting point is 01:38:58 And I don't think that Scissor. I think Scissor's. I have to disagree with that. Now, get that out of the way. We're talking box office. We're talking bring money back. We're talking toys. We're talking a whole lot more. So let's get the artistic shit out of the way. Correct. Scissor's the way. We're talking box office. We're talking bring money back. We're talking toys. We're talking a whole lot more.
Starting point is 01:39:06 So let's get the artistic shit out the way. Scissors the bar. No doubt. But I don't think they're in the same weight class. Respectfully. Tell Summer that. Maybe she proves me different. But Scissors has.
Starting point is 01:39:17 And that's what I'm telling about Ice. Ice is saying, I seen what y'all did. You ain't seen what everybody did. Correct. Not everybody. So if you're saying that. I seen the other names. Then you better be careful. Because Kend you ain't seen what everybody did correct not everybody so if you're saying that i've seen the other name you better be careful because kendrick ain't dropped same premise in
Starting point is 01:39:29 r&b before hey drake cole i love you i got it y'all the best y'all delivered the best kendrick ain't dropped yet and y'all know that y'all know there's somebody looming that has not shown his hand yet in the at the poker table. Summer knows that. So, the flip to that is, what, let me get out the way? No, no, no, no. You're just going to deliver your best product. No, I'm calling this. She's calling this. No, you got to deal with me. I'm here now. I'm the new one.
Starting point is 01:39:57 I'm the best. I deliver. They know I'm crazy, but they fuck with me. Watch this. Baby mama, baby daddy drama. Watch this. Watch this. You got to deal with it. I'm putting it out there and now I'm the bar they fuck with me Watch this Baby mama Baby daddy drama Watch this Watch this You gotta deal with it I'm putting it out there And now I'm the bar
Starting point is 01:40:08 That's what I like I am the bar With all that being said Now it just even makes more sense That I'm not giving y'all a single I'm not giving you nothing See you November 5th Strategically
Starting point is 01:40:20 You know what I'm saying I ain't giving y'all shit Buy my shit I like it I'll my shit I like it I'll be purchasing I like it She might drop something A week before
Starting point is 01:40:29 Two weeks before Or like yeah You know what I'm saying But still The Monday of the week I like this as the announcement Instead of the bullshit As the announcement
Starting point is 01:40:36 Which we get Every day now And I don't need a bunch of singles I don't At all Calling justice I figured This is Joe Butter From the Joe Butter Podcast I don't at all calling justice I figured this is Joe Budden
Starting point is 01:40:48 from the Joe Budden podcast how can I help you sir not that other podcast you did that I seen you on talking shit I was talking shit don't worry about it
Starting point is 01:40:56 what well don't worry about it we ain't gonna talk about it this is no nigga you're not gonna tell me that this is Joe Budden from the Joe Budden podcast
Starting point is 01:41:04 who loves you and embraces you no matter what I've seen from you out there on the Internet. What have you seen from me? Do you know I love you? I love you back. What have you seen from me? What are you talking about? Well, you want me to say it now? You want to talk like off air?
Starting point is 01:41:20 Okay, call me off air. Are you on air? I'm on air. Oh. Hey, guys. What's up,'s up bro see i don't even like how you said hey to my guys i'm listening to you i mean but listen i've never i've listened listen i've never met your guys well that's another complaint that i have we have met you just keep bringing up my complaints why you why you ain't met the guy? I haven't been to New York in two years.
Starting point is 01:41:45 Wow. But listen, that's not what I called for. Justice, listen. We're talking Summer Walker. We're excited. This is an intense talk. Okay. We've been waiting.
Starting point is 01:42:00 We haven't heard any music. There's no single. We don't have much to pull from. So we're calling you so you could give us like a peek into her headspace or the team's headspace going into this project. We were trying to figure out where the bar is for her. Like she's an A artist. So what is the bar for that sound of music out here? Joe said Cleo Soul artistically. Artistically, that's where I think the bar for that sound of music out here? Joe said Cleo Soul artistically.
Starting point is 01:42:28 Artistically, that's where I think the bar is. But Summer's box office, so SZA might be the bar there, and she hasn't dropped yet. Okay. So I'm over here saying that Summer is coming out to set the bar, and she don't give a fuck about who's out there and who's doing what. To that, you say what, as an insider and someone on Summer's team. Absolutely. I mean, because, I mean, for me, you already know, like, the game that we're playing is completely different, right? I think artistically, you know, that's another conversation.
Starting point is 01:43:03 But in terms of commercial success, I feel like that's very important for the genre of R&B because we have to move this shit forward. Like, everybody's just coming out the same way I expect the same you know the same output right where as to what I'm trying to do with this next album um even as a whole you know with summer as well I just feel like we just want to push the bar just a little bit more and really really really catch niggas off surprise there's all some superstar shit like if you want to be a superstar you have to really take certain risks and they're going to be risked taking on this album but i really feel like we we nailed it perfectly because she just kind of has like a certain tone that can kind of carry that through is is there a single for this project and i missed it so so whatever you're expecting don't expect it oh justin just just come on you know that's scary
Starting point is 01:43:48 when we when people hear that as consumers whatever you're expecting don't expect it we're gonna sit we're gonna set a trend r b music is gonna be able to be programmed outside of just what expect and it's gonna be be it's going to be a breath of fresh air i feel like the features are incredible the music is incredible vocally where she's at is incredible i mean it it really i i think it's better than the first body art is there is there is there a single for the project that i may have missed yeah no single singles coming oh it's coming it's coming still don't i saw yeah it's coming it's it's coming really really soon release week a week
Starting point is 01:44:33 a week before you say what release week a week before oh no before no before way before it's like i said we're treating this as a superstar project. This is our sophomore project. We all know the sophomore, you know, jitters is real. So we're going to treat it like, you know, worldwide priority. We're really going to put everything behind it. This is my... I mean, she has the story, right?
Starting point is 01:45:00 The difference about Summer and her contemporaries is that she has a story. The difference about Summer and her contemporaries is that she has a story. And for us, the type of writer that she is, those stories are very, very, very intertwined with the music. But more importantly, this album is a sequential thought process. If you watch the trailer that we dropped yesterday, it really starts off exactly where the last dropped off because that's when she started dating her ex right so it's a whole narrative you know even from the first single to where she was mentally to the last song on the album what do you what can you say and this is probably one of my last questions what can you say to the people that may be worried about uh worried worried about uh london's participation on the album hello you
Starting point is 01:45:47 hear me yeah you there yeah i'm here i said what can you say to the people that might be worried about london's participation or lack of on the new project um i mean if anybody's if anybody's been following summer's journey i mean again like you know what we did on the last project i think it was dope but you know there's a common denominator in summer's projects right you know the producer is very important but the common denominator is summer right like she is she's just a unique talent right and she's able to adjust because she has a specific tone so you know i mean whatever people are saying people can say but she just nails it and then also like you know i'm not gonna i'm not gonna i'm not gonna talk my shit but you know she also
Starting point is 01:46:31 has the best a and r music behind her so we said we said all that before we called you what i'm gonna say we said that no we said that we gave it to you we gave it to you listen to this it's my last question to you hello oh? Hello, goddammit. You hear me? Yeah, I hear you. You hear what I said? Yeah, no, I heard you. No, I said we just said that before we called you.
Starting point is 01:46:52 We have all the faith in the world in you and her squad. Now, off of music, A&R music stuff, I'm talking to you as a man. Mm-hmm. I'm talking to you as a man. You have heard Summer Walker's project. So you can tell me how women in our lives will respond to us in November, December. Not good. Yeah. I played this album for my girl a couple of days ago and we had some work. It's bad.
Starting point is 01:47:26 Not good. Bad news coming. Yeah. That's the one. That was the important question. Yeah. That was the one. Back at ease.
Starting point is 01:47:32 This ain't going to be good. No, it's not going to be good. It's not going to be good for no man out there. I fuck with all the girls that won't heal. So, yeah. Easily tricky. Easily tricky. No, it's it's gonna get dirty like any anything that you got
Starting point is 01:47:48 in the closet any skeletons that y'all really yeah no no I get it hey listen man chick left me when lemonade dropped so I'm not this is not strange territory for me yeah only difference eliminate lemonadeade and this is it's real names in the album. It's real stories in the album that you know. So it's going to hit. This is why I was happy none of my
Starting point is 01:48:16 exes could do music. Right? Well, they could. They couldn't. Alright, so we'll wait for this, thank you are you excited though i mean i how do the streets feel like i gotta know because sometimes i'm so in the bubble i don't really know what the conversation is outside of the bubble just you're trying to play
Starting point is 01:48:37 me i'm in the same bubble i don't know what the streets are saying i have no idea what they're saying i'm not in the streets i don't know I know we've been excited about this for a few years. For us, summer is at the top of R&B. We're extremely anxious for a sophomore effort to see what it sounds like, especially because she's going through so much personal strife and turmoil, whatever you want to call it. I want to hear it. I want to hear it.
Starting point is 01:49:00 I already know what's coming to me. I'm not the R&B dude, and I'm excited. What did Park say? He said he's not an R&B dude and I'm excited. What did Park say? He said he's not an R&B dude and even he's excited. He can't wait for it. Oh, that's amazing. See, that's really the mark, right? I don't care about these R&B fans right now.
Starting point is 01:49:17 I care about the people that don't listen to R&B. And I want to get them to convert to make this genre more expansive. More expansive. Y'all want everyone i ain't gonna hold you damn it i was a little worried when you started saying it's nothing we expected and you know those those statements tend to throw people off but when you said my girl gonna hate me and we're gonna have problems i'm cool we're back we're right yeah i'm back you got me back with that one because i was worried when you started off with the, you know, it's nothing you expect and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:49:45 uh-oh. Where you going to be at when SZA drop? What you mean? Where am I going to be at? I'm going to be listening to it just like you. But where at though?
Starting point is 01:49:58 I don't know. When did she drop it? You better believe me. Friday. A Friday. Hey, you better believe you don't know, nigga.
Starting point is 01:50:04 That's right. I don't know, but, I mean, shit. I mean, I'm excited. I feel like those two, man, those two, you know, it's a doubleheader monster. And I really feel like, you know, even on this summer, you know, it's going to be, you know, a peek into, you know, those two. That's all I'm going to be, you know, peek into, you know, those two. So I'm going to say, well, listen,
Starting point is 01:50:26 whenever you get to New York, if we could be the second, third or fourth podcast, swing by to discuss things and tell the host, you agree with everything they say, then that would be awesome. I'll come release week. That would.
Starting point is 01:50:42 Yeah. Wow. Really? You're going to come here? Yeah. To something that I'm at? Yo, first of all, you don't come outside.
Starting point is 01:50:52 You're going to come to something that just Joe is at with like nobody else? That's the first part. You don't come outside. We'll have a good talk when I see you. Nice, good talk.
Starting point is 01:51:01 Just, I love you. I can't wait for this summer shit. And yeah, when you get to New York, hit me. All right, bro. Love you guys. My guy. Peace, bro.
Starting point is 01:51:08 Later. Peace. I love Just. He's got some things to answer. Answer for with me. That's my guy. That's my guy. Shout out to him.
Starting point is 01:51:17 No doubt. You got to be careful how you pick sides. Elton John says, Young Thug is a better freestyler than Eminem. Nobody in hip hop wants to tell Elton John to shut the fuck up. That's what you tell him. Somebody tell him. I don't think he listens to me. You can tell.
Starting point is 01:51:37 Elton John. Thanks for all the classics. This Elton John, I mean. But this one. Freestyler? This one. I've never heard either one of them freestyle. thanks for all the classics this Elton John I mean but this one Freestyle this one I've never heard either one of them freestyle if you talking about
Starting point is 01:51:51 the real essence of Freestyle I'm not even dignified it's your dignified you hear him if you talking about the essence it's so easy to get ish
Starting point is 01:51:59 see Freestyle started from they get ish it don't know if they're ish you ain't gotta get into the essence with this. This is an Elton John fucking statement to rile us up. We just talked about emotional currency.
Starting point is 01:52:10 Elton John. Exactly. Get the fuck out of here. Nobody cares. Who cares about this? I'm not going to Elton John. Especially after your man. Stop it.
Starting point is 01:52:20 Stop it. I'm not doing this. I'm not going to Elton John for my hip hop taste. This is an R&B podcast, but still. Sorry. It's not doing this. I'm not going to Elton John for my hip hop taste. This is an R&B podcast, but still. Sorry. It's not a piano podcast. I've seen Elton John every year sit at a fucking piano with Eminem and sing gay lullabies. Okay.
Starting point is 01:52:35 I'm sorry. That is true. I know. It is true. Y'all know what I mean. I know what you mean. They say they do shit. Eminem was the guy that bashed all the gay people earlier
Starting point is 01:52:47 and whatever that was. We got it. Elton John is the representative. They paired them together for 90 different award shows. That's true. They did it. I seen all the sunglasses. I seen all the pianos.
Starting point is 01:52:59 I've heard the songs. I've heard Stan with Elton John. I've heard every Eminem hit with Elton John. Who gives a fuck? I'm with you. Love you, Elton John. Love you, buddy. Got some slaps.
Starting point is 01:53:15 You got slaps. Shit slapped. Shit fucking slapped. Need to be slapped for saying this shit. No. No. No. No.
Starting point is 01:53:24 I want him to never comment on hip hop again. I don't care. Who cares? Exactly. Maybe I make a ring. So? Talk about Billy Joel or something. Bring that smoke.
Starting point is 01:53:33 Why won't he? Why won't he? Let's get down to the bottom of who's a better freestyler than them keys. Well, while we're on this, Lil Nas X says he's not gay. Well, he didn't say that. He said he miss pussy which to me is the same as
Starting point is 01:53:47 unpack this that don't need pause unpack this ain't nothing to pause I'm not pausing come on let's just talk about it that's what he said you said he miss pussy
Starting point is 01:53:58 yes he said yo this gay shit is cool but I miss pussy I do miss pussy and I feel him but I'm not gay so can gay people do this well now can I say that hold on edit hold on no no no no no I don't think you gotta edit that But I miss pussy. I do miss pussy. And I feel them, but I'm not gay. So can gay people do this? Well, now.
Starting point is 01:54:05 Can I say that? Hold on. Edit. Hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't think you got to edit that. But I've already said what I think about dude. Yo, pussy's good.
Starting point is 01:54:15 But he followed up. He followed this up. And a lot of people missed that part. Not exquisite. He followed this up and said, never mind. He texted back. So he's making it sound like he's joking, saying this whole shit, which is a troll thing, which is what he does to rile people up.
Starting point is 01:54:33 So I take it all with a grain of salt. I told y'all what I think about Lil Nas X. I have all the salts in my house. Idolized. Idolized. I and I and I. Idolized in the salt. I got all the salts in my house. Idolized. Idolized? I got all the salts. I got idolized salt. I got Morton's.
Starting point is 01:54:51 I got idolized salt. I got salt. You got the pink Himalayan? I got saltless salt. You got the pink Himalayan. Diet salt. I got all the salts. Guess what, buddy?
Starting point is 01:55:02 Guess what? Fine. I'll be the guy to come out. That's Parks Valley. It's ice too. Pussy's amazing. Ice said that. Ice Valley. No, no. Anybody Valley. Yo. Hate to be the bearer of news,
Starting point is 01:55:21 but pussy's a good hole. Yo. the holiest good meal too a good meal too making sure they know that was that was what I'm saying go back to
Starting point is 01:55:42 parks I mean I guess what I'm saying. Go back to it. It's Parks. Parks. Yeah. It's Parks. I mean, I guess what I'm about to say, don't really disagree with what you're saying. You guys,
Starting point is 01:55:55 Nas X likes vagina. I mean, I wouldn't blame him. What the fuck you talking about? We understand. That's a you talking about? We understand. That's a good place to put that thing. Yo, Mary Parks is different. That's a good place to put that thing. Oh, man, yo.
Starting point is 01:56:27 That's funny. Appropriate that the pizza's here now. Oh guys think that Lil Nas X likes vagina or yes I vote yes probably I've told y'all what I think who really gets into some vaginas be like nah this is this ain't it. This ain't for me. I'm going to pass on that wetness. A little tight thing. Niggas risk everything for some vagina. Life included. Freedom, life, all that. Everything. I know I'd have been on a highway three in the morning
Starting point is 01:56:58 with no license. And a warrant or two. We just saw you. That wasn't a warrant. Shut up just saw you that wasn't over shut up man you went to work right in the warrants town oh man
Starting point is 01:57:11 you went twice a week they had a warrant they got you we know we know you're done the warrant was just niggas will take risks for the vagina
Starting point is 01:57:18 is what we were saying oh man this is my takeaway that I shouldn't have took away and we can edit it that I shouldn't have took away. And we can edit it out. I don't, I believe that Lil Nas X likes vagina.
Starting point is 01:57:31 I do. Exclusively? I don't know. Oh. I could probably. I don't know. He could be bisexual. He could be bi.
Starting point is 01:57:38 He could. But I believe. He doesn't claim to be bisexual, does he? That he likes vagina. I don't think he did. Exactly. Which puts me in this weird frame of mind that i don't normally stay in i've never been here before actually if you want to talk
Starting point is 01:57:51 about it i've never been in a climate where the person that was telling me that he was gay i had to question if he was gay i've never been here it's a different space it's new it's a new space and culture and on top of that that's never happened before it's a different space it's new it's a new space and culture and on top of that that's never happened before it's a i'm blown away i am blown away by that space you know why because the people it's a trendsetter no no it's not that i told y'all he picked the perfect troll you can't question that yeah you can't no you can't you can't no you cannot you can't if somebody's lying now you can do it now You can do it now because he said this. But prior to him saying that, you can't question him.
Starting point is 01:58:27 I still, it has never been a gay SAT. Yes, you're right. There's no test that they take to tell us. No. Before, what makes to me this so tricky is that a lot of gay people were scared to come out and say they gay. Right? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:58:44 This dude is now saying I'm gay. Mm-hmm. But saying, eh, maybe not. I don't even think, I think, I don't even think it's that far. I think,
Starting point is 01:58:54 because like I said, this with the follow-up tweet, like, I just think you playing in the face of people that are really out here. No, some niggas got their asses whipped. Yeah, like, you know what I'm saying? Some people got persecuted.
Starting point is 01:59:06 You playing with this shit. And now y'all have landed me where I want to land. No, I got your point. Let's stay right here for a second. You have now introduced trolling into the LGBTQ community, which adjusts things. It changes things. So don't y'all try to cancel me for what I'm saying. LGBTQ community, which adjusts things. It changes things. So,
Starting point is 01:59:26 don't y'all try to cancel me for what I'm saying. This is my think piece. If for so many years, gay people, and there's some funny with this, but maybe not. If for so many years,
Starting point is 01:59:41 gay people were feeling suppressed by being in the closet. Persecuted when they came out. Trapped by being in the closet. All of these things that came along with them not being able to be their true selves publicly, right? And now you insert trolling, which we've never had to deal with. With these new variables, is it the worst thing in the world to try to guess when someone's in the closet? Don't say nothing.
Starting point is 02:00:17 Think about what I just said. In old culture, that's an insult. To the LGBTQ community, that is offensive. Definitely. That's offensive. That's true. However, if trolling is in play, and I don't know that it is. In marketing.
Starting point is 02:00:38 Then do we have to change how we view straight people that are attempting to figure out who is accepting of their lifestyle and who is hiding it i think i articulated that correctly i hope i'm not canceled to that you gentlemen say what i'm trying to think about what you said think about it in the earth and last decade we ain't even got to go that far back. Last decade, if you would have just come out and say, hey, I think such and such is gay, you would be persecuted. Correct.
Starting point is 02:01:15 Because that is offensive. You cannot look at someone and assume that they have these characteristics and traits that are visibly obvious to let somebody know that they're gay. That is wrong. However, if trolling exists, gay trolling, then do we adjust how we viewed the person trying to guess who's gay and who's not to people who may have not come out yet? That was offensive back in the day. may have not come out yet. That was offensive back in the day.
Starting point is 02:01:46 Today, with Lil Nas X, if you say, hey, he might be gay. And you shouldn't say that publicly, probably. I was about to say, why would we guess at all? I personally don't give a shit about whatever one does with their genitalia. Me neither.
Starting point is 02:02:02 Or love interest. I don't care whether, like with Lil Nas X, I don't care if he's gay, straight, bi, whatever he wants to be. I would like to know if he's not gay. I want to know. I do. Where my problem comes in is
Starting point is 02:02:12 when it seems like- Because I didn't want to know if he was gay, but he told me. He forced me. But if you're lying, I want you to tell me too. That's where my problem comes in. I want you to tell me.
Starting point is 02:02:20 Because it seems like you lied to benefit yourself. Which, again, looking at who he is, looking at his past, this is a troll. I just never heard any gay person speak about the gay agenda in the manner that he does. It almost sounds as if it's a person impersonating someone. He speaks about it like I would. He speaks about it like a straight person speaks about it.
Starting point is 02:02:45 I never heard a gay person address the gay agenda the way. I might have never even heard that. I don't know. I don't know. I never thought about it. Only straight people refer to the gay agenda. I never thought about it until, that's what I'm saying. Only straight people refer to the gay agenda.
Starting point is 02:02:58 What gay people say the gay agenda? They hate that shit. I don't know. I also go back to him trolling. And that's why I say again he picked the perfect troll he can weave however
Starting point is 02:03:07 yeah but that's not right so what because you gay you could use trolls that's hurtful to gay people what do you mean I think that he's if he is the fact that
Starting point is 02:03:18 the fact that a gay agenda exists like you just said we've never heard I don't think that a gay agenda exists let me get that part out of the way first. And the fact that he's a troll and probably or maybe or whatever, not really my business, a homosexual man,
Starting point is 02:03:32 I think he's poking fun at the term gay agenda. Oh, okay. That's what I got from when he got on the stage and said, however. I think he fucked Becky last week after the show is what I think. Now, that don't mean that don't mean that he didn't give his number to Tom too but you
Starting point is 02:03:51 stop telling me that you hate pussy I don't believe it I don't believe it cancel me if you want I don't believe it again I think he's just playing
Starting point is 02:04:02 on the sensitivity of the times he's found a way to manipulate it to work in his favor. And monetize it. And monetize it. And he might be gay. He might be. Both things could be true.
Starting point is 02:04:14 No, but I've seen gay people dissing him. Mad gay people be dissing him. A bunch. I know a few gay people that got off him. That pregnancy move was enough for them. Mad gay people be dissing him. That pregnancy move was enough for them. Mad gay people be dissing him. That pregnancy move was a lot for some gay people. And I get it, trolling is his thing.
Starting point is 02:04:29 I don't necessarily have an issue with him, but he's not triggering me in any way. Yeah, he's not triggering me in any way. I'm speaking for the people that he may or may not be triggering. Let me give you an example. Okay, good. If he is not, if he is not gay, right? If he is not gay, right? I'm going to equate it to when the white lady wasn't white.
Starting point is 02:04:51 I mean, wasn't black. Wasn't black. Rachel Delioza. Yeah. She was pretending to be a black woman, right? That's a great example, even though it's funny. Black people found that mad offensive because, you dodo, we've been out here getting our asses whipped. We've been out here getting persecuted. We've been out here getting discriminated against in every single facet of life.
Starting point is 02:05:12 So for you to trivialize that, it's the same as them. Bruh, one of my cousins is gay. I remember back in the day when we was kids, like, yo, dog, you used to get your ass beat. We had to hide it. You used to get your ass beat you had to hide it you used to get your ass whipped like yo it was rough
Starting point is 02:05:27 that's why a lot of niggas got knuckle games because you used to get your ass whipped you had to get your game up yes man get us out of here
Starting point is 02:05:34 dog I'm not lying though so again so for you to get on TV if he's not gay if he's gay rock out if he's not gay the LGBT community should be in uproar if they come to find out that this boy is gay but if he's not gay. If he's gay, rock out. If he's not gay, the LGBT community
Starting point is 02:05:46 should be in uprage if they come to find out that this boy's gay. But if they're not, who are we to tell them that they should be in uprage, I guess. I guess that's where it lands. If he's trolling gay, then he just found out a good troll.
Starting point is 02:06:00 Whether you are gay or not gay, whatever. I think the fact that you're just playing like this that's not true bro that's offensive the faces of people that is being fucking persecuted
Starting point is 02:06:09 we can't tell them it's offensive if they don't think it's offensive no no I think that they would or you say gay people have said that
Starting point is 02:06:14 I think yeah like no again dog you out here playing on some shit that we had to hide our whole lives and you using it as a marketing tool
Starting point is 02:06:23 but what if but what if him doing that makes being open about shit easier for people it could you think it does it might
Starting point is 02:06:33 I don't know I don't know I'm not gay in today's climate yes think about the 45 year olds think about the 50 year olds you know what I'm saying think about those people
Starting point is 02:06:41 I can understand why some people would be mad bro certainly I roll with Parks until I'm not rolling with those people I can understand why Some people would be mad Bruh Certainly I roll with Parks Until I'm not rolling with him Yeah it might make Some people feel
Starting point is 02:06:47 Better until you say I don't I like pussy now I wasn't Yeah yes yes yes Yo the gay shit was cool Like it was a thing to do He's making it seem
Starting point is 02:06:58 Like it's a fact Yeah This gay shit Was fun at first The biggest defense One of the biggest defenses Was always Being gay is not a choice It's not a choice It's not a choice It's not a defense One of the biggest defenses That community has fought Being gay is not a choice
Starting point is 02:07:05 It's not a choice It's not a choice It's not a choice That was the biggest thing That was pushed Yo being gay is not a choice You can be born gay Like the
Starting point is 02:07:12 Scientific proof All this For him to say It was cool at first Alright this shit was cool at first But now I miss pussy Whether you're trolling Whether you meant it
Starting point is 02:07:20 Whatever With the follow up tweet You're joking For you to say that You True The face of of today's homosexual kid
Starting point is 02:07:29 you are the face right now so for you to make that joke you know what's interesting in the 90's in the early 2000's it was the rumors coming out of we would see our first gay rapper and you would just see the reactions and the responses
Starting point is 02:07:45 from the community laughter it was never taken really seriously and now here we are there's a successful young man that's saying I'm gay and he's making that the focal point of his movement
Starting point is 02:08:01 and now we're sitting here like well is it real but we doing that because of him we rolled with him of his movement. And now we're sitting here like, well, is it real? But we're doing that because of him. True. We rolled with him. Nobody said shit. His actions is making people say,
Starting point is 02:08:14 hey, man. That's true. So it's not about the gay thing. Be clear. It's not about the gay thing. It's not anti. It's about the fact that the message that's been pushed is yo it's not a choice being gay ain't a choice it's not like me going buying jeans blue over black jeans
Starting point is 02:08:31 it's not a choice but for him to say it was cool at first it was fun at first this gay shit was fun at first i miss pussy my nigga's like yo i tried the vegan thing i don't want some steak right fuck out of here dog Because that's been the thing That they stand on Like yo This is not a choice This is who I am I had an affinity
Starting point is 02:08:49 For the same sex Since I was a kid Like I felt like This from day one This is who I am He's saying it was a choice Like yo This shit was cool at first
Starting point is 02:08:59 I miss pussy now If I was his gay boyfriend Boy Yo Yo man a piece of here man A little bit of straightening A piece of here now. If I was his gay boyfriend, boy Yo. Yo, man, a piece of here, man. A little bit of straightening. Oh, you don't like it?
Starting point is 02:09:13 Wait, what'd you say, nigga? Oh, now you don't like this? Get this fucking Say, Vaughn. Go ahead, man. Come on, let's keep it going. I would learn that little he would learn a lesson I ain't gonna be your man
Starting point is 02:09:31 and you out here trolling like this nigga you get this you get all of this Savon you writing all this down just a little bit straight just a little bit straight not straightening with the hook with the chorus alright alright A little bit straightened. A little hook. A little bit of hook.
Starting point is 02:09:47 Not straightening with the hook. With the chorus in it. All right, all right, all right. What Dirk said his favorite rapper was. Who's Dirk's favorite rapper? All right, come on. Let's get to Dirk. Let's get to Dirk. Dirk.
Starting point is 02:09:57 Dirk. Oh, man. Yo, you stupid, dog. Dirk was home chilling. It was like five days had passed and nobody broke in. He was like, you know what? Let me make a little list, dog. Dirk was home chilling. It was like five days had passed and nobody broke in. He was like, you know what? Let me make a little list, man. Got some time to myself.
Starting point is 02:10:10 Let me grab a pen, man. See what I can think of with some peace. So he came up with a little list. And this is Dirk's top 50 greatest rappers of all time. All time. I've always wondered. Let me preface this with I don't even know.
Starting point is 02:10:31 I'm going to preface this with I don't have nothing to preface this with. I'm just going to give you all the list. And he later deleted this, right? Yeah. Dirk's top 50 greatest rappers of all time. Is this an order or no? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:10:45 It starts out with, you guessed it, Meek Mill, Lil Baby, Lil Uzi, Young Thug, Future, Drake, Dirk, Moneybagg Yo, Nicki Minaj, City Girls, Herbo, Meg Thee Stallion, J. Cole, Juice WRLD, Lil Keed, Chief Keef, Migos, PnB Rock, Kodak Black, NBA Youngboy, bond a boogie with the hoodie 21 savage cardi b trippy red little skies gucci rich the kid gonna chance the rapper polo g cowboy tory lanes ybnt grizzly yg nipsey hustle ty dollar sign young dolph key glock triple x black youngsta quando rondo and le chopper roddy rich ymw ymw melly DaBaby four times wait forget it Blueface Blueface
Starting point is 02:11:29 Kevin Gates and Nav round of applause I think he just accidentally printed like the Apple Rap Life playlist somebody said this to roll
Starting point is 02:11:43 a loud line up funny thing about it all like the Apple Rap Life playlist. Somebody said this to roll a loud line up. Funny thing about it all, I totally agree with this list, man. Wow. Like, I can tell a lot of thought went into this. A lot of back and forth amongst gang. Gang or gang gang?
Starting point is 02:12:02 Both. A lot of discussions about discographies Where they rank Lyrical excellentism Yeah come on man Conceptual I can tell that Dirk did his due diligence with this list man Meek at number one I mean you gotta think
Starting point is 02:12:16 You gotta really think about it I mean come on Let that sink in for a minute He's right Yeah He's right He's right Or are you telling me he's right yeah he's right he's right or you tell him he's wrong
Starting point is 02:12:27 no no I just can tell no I don't know Kendrick not up there tell him he's wrong you see him out he with his girl
Starting point is 02:12:34 he'll be in Jersey his girl just let off at some niggas just shouted a few niggas in the head you let them both know how you feel about his list strongly
Starting point is 02:12:43 I think that this is the best list I've ever seen. I don't think there's another rapper that could have put together a more constructive list that just gathered, like, just gathered really all the participants from its inception. Like, come on, man. This is a great all-time list. Come on, look at that.
Starting point is 02:13:04 Meek, Baby, Uzi, Thug, and Future that's I mean that's everybody pick your five pick your five who do you think who do you say I don't
Starting point is 02:13:13 I don't I don't I'd say nothing I mean it could be Big Pac Ye Ho I don't I don't I say what he said
Starting point is 02:13:20 and that's what I report there you go yo did you hear that Jeff Bezos is taking William Shatner to space Huh Run that back again Jeff Bezos is taking William Shatner to space
Starting point is 02:13:35 On his next space trip Why William Shatner is another one He's like Space Elton John He didn't even say nothing. Dog, you said enough, William Shatner. William Shatner know he need to chill out a little bit, but go ahead, Jeff.
Starting point is 02:13:54 Get your shit off. William Shatner, the rocket to the edge of space with Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin. That's dope. All right. All right. All right. We've reported on that. I mean, all right.
Starting point is 02:14:09 Glad we got that one out the way. You know, being able to call your wealthy homie like, oh, y'all going to that island? You're seeing Star Trek, right? We're going to space, man. You're seeing Star Trek, right? If anybody needs to go, it's Shatner. We're going to space, man. William Shatner.
Starting point is 02:14:19 I hate Star Trek. I ain't never seen it. It's always been bad. Never was a fan either. It's always been bad. Never was a fan either. It's always been bad. It's been bad forever. It's never been good. Star Trek, and I'm ready
Starting point is 02:14:34 to, I'm here to unearth some of these white mythical legends. Star Trek has never been good. It's just a tricky one. When was it good? You spoke with Star Trek. You spoke with Star Trek.
Starting point is 02:14:46 Tell me when it was good. When William Shatner was on it. Yep. It was good then. Ish. Next Generation was good. Ish. The movies was good.
Starting point is 02:14:55 Ish. And it's billions of motherfuckers that would disagree with you. Yo, throw up the thing, man. Rep your shit. Rep your shit. Throw your gang up. Ish, your job is done, man. It's just played in hospitals worldwide worldwide you did what you had to do
Starting point is 02:15:08 with the old shows but why are we on old shows this is why instagram is important sometimes do y'all know johnny mathis sung the family ties intro johnny mathis and like melissa morgan or somebody pull up pull that up i I just learned this ish I know you knew this I didn't know it was in the session family ties the show and boy are we aging but listen family ties because it debuted in 81 I was born in 80 but 82, they switched the song to a Johnny Mathis and Denise Williams record, Family Ties. Wow. Who the hell knew that? I didn't know that.
Starting point is 02:15:52 Hey, did y'all? That's fire. That's crazy. Did y'all watch cartoons? Did y'all watch cartoons? Like the Ninja Turtles shit? Did you know Uncle Phil was Shredder? Yeah, he was Shredder.
Starting point is 02:16:01 I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. Yeah, that fucked me up. Thank God for memes. Word. Memes is teaching more than books. Unfortunately. That's not good.
Starting point is 02:16:11 It's terrible. Terrible news. Look, that's why we need Instagram up. It's not a good thing. Yeah. It's horrible, actually. Yeah. You guys should stop learning from memes.
Starting point is 02:16:20 Please. Yo. I just told you that on the way in. We were talking about something. I'm like, yo, man, wait. Was it a meme? Because niggas will slap anything. Oh, yeah, I was talking about Squid Game.
Starting point is 02:16:29 About the dude said he couldn't shop the movie. Sold the laptop for $600. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, that was a meme? Like, I don't believe shit I see on a meme no more. I need to. He got to tell me. I believe all that.
Starting point is 02:16:40 Netflix robbed the shit out of him. They got that shit for a plate of oxtail and some Newports. Yo, a plate of oxtail is expensive now. And some Newports. And Newports are expensive now. Yeah, that's true. All of that is true.
Starting point is 02:16:52 Squid Game dude gotta be home mad. Nah, why not? Shit. Why not? Because he probably got 17 other ideas in the tub.
Starting point is 02:16:59 And now it boosts some value up. Yo, creators gonna create. Let me give y'all a list of the dudes that's mad. The dude that gave Phil Nike the value up. Yo, creators going to create. Let me give y'all a list of the dudes that's mad. The dude that gave Phil Nike the check idea, he's upset. He's mad.
Starting point is 02:17:12 The young lady, young black lady, I think it was, that gave Apple the apple with the bite off of it. She's not the happiest. Hey, y'all won't watch Bob Ross's doc doc but his family's mad too another one that's another one that's mad um let's go through a list of people that's mad the old microsoft why we don't know none of steve jobs little hill yeah i'm saying the person that took that photo they offered them it was like look we'll pay you it was an old desktop background the green hill the blue sky i remember always. Always on Windows computers. I remember.
Starting point is 02:17:46 They offered the person, I want to say it was like 50 grand, something like, or we'll license it from you. Mm-hmm. And they took the money. Niggas always take. So speaking of Nike, Nike's first endorsement deal was a dude. Yeah, the one that shot that picture. Nike's first endorsement deal was a dude who played ball.
Starting point is 02:18:04 They offered him $100,000 or I think 5% equity in the company. And he took the $100,000. It's hard to turn that money down. I mean, to turn the money down. $100,000 in 1975 or whatever it was. But again, that's where we are. I don't want to seriously back out.
Starting point is 02:18:23 Thank you. We talked about this earlier. Talked about it earlier. again that's where we are we i don't want sirius to back out thank you thank you no that just goes to we talked about this earlier talked about it earlier like niggas be in a fucked up position all right what else what else needs our attention game of thrones coming back ice how you feel yeah you're not gonna watch i'm done you're gonna watch you're watching i'm gonna watch it yeah i'm not excited like oh my god i, I'm running through it. No, I'm excited because I think they got back in their bag. Wait, did you watch Game of Thrones?
Starting point is 02:18:51 Did I? This is a prequel. Yeah. I know. That should mean more dragons. No, what I'm saying is I think that they heard the public's cry about how shitty that last season was. And it was. Right?
Starting point is 02:19:04 And they went back in they bag. They've had three years to go back in they bag. For no fucking reason, bro. Bro. They went back in they bag, and I think they gonna deliver. Speaking of prequels, did any of you guys watch The Many Saints of North?
Starting point is 02:19:19 No, I had The Choice this weekend, and it was between that and Candyman. We went and saw Candyman. It's on HBO Max. Oh. And his answer was no. Oh, no, no. He said no. I'm saying you didn't have to go see it. But I had two hours to spend watching
Starting point is 02:19:35 the thing. He said he had things to do is what he said. Now what'd you get? Nothing. I sat in the house and watched the shit. Was it good? Yeah, it actually was. It was good. It was, um, was good. It was more about Tony's uncle, which was Uncle Dicky. Uncle don't tell us, though, because we want to see it. I mean, they tell you what the movie's about. I'm not spoiling anything.
Starting point is 02:20:01 How did you feel being from Newark? I'm not from that Newark. Oh, my from Newark? I'm not from that Newark. Oh, my bad. Yeah, I ain't from that Newark. Oh, okay. So that did nothing. But that was good. I liked it.
Starting point is 02:20:12 I really did. I'm going to watch it. I'm going to watch it. I landed home. It was what I got home at about 11 p.m. I started searching the movie trailers because I was at a hotel out there that didn't play movies for some reason. It's weird.
Starting point is 02:20:35 Nighthouse is a movie that's out that I watched the trailer, and I said, okay, this is good. I'm going to watch it. It's good. I don't remember the girl that's in it. Emma something. She's good at everything. It looks good.. It's good. I don't remember the girl that's in it. Emma something. She's good in everything. It looks good.
Starting point is 02:20:46 It's a movie. I don't know. It's not anywhere. You got to buy it. You got to buy it, find it, rent it, purchase it. It's somewhere. It's in theaters. It's one of those in theaters.
Starting point is 02:20:55 Night House. Scary shit? Scary movie. It looks good. It looks like it has a twist. Cool. I started that, fell asleep on it, woke up to finish it, but found another movie called The Dealer, I want to say.
Starting point is 02:21:08 It's a movie I saw coming to traction on about a car dealer who went to jail, fucked up. He fucked up, but it looked real good. I started that. Stopped it. But that looks great. Okay. And I stopped it because Dave Chappelle shit came out. So then I started that.
Starting point is 02:21:23 I couldn't find it. It's on Netflix. Came out at three in the morning. We had this talk last week. And I watched the first 30 minutes. I watched the first 30 minutes of it. I don't have a take. I don't have an opinion.
Starting point is 02:21:37 Dave is one of those people that's going to always get the benefit of the doubt with me. I have to watch this in full, process it, digest it before I can come back to you and give you my opinion on it. The first 20 minutes of it though no comment. Okay. Okay. No comment on the first 20 minutes. Again it's about an hour and 15 minutes long. I'm going to finish it later. I'll talk to you all about it on Saturday.
Starting point is 02:21:58 I'm watching that tonight. But these are one of the, this is one of the must watch things on my list. Of course. Dave Chappelle. Always. Listen, again, we back to TV is out. TV is out. I sent you the series. The new series that was coming. You said you were dying laughing at it. Because I saw
Starting point is 02:22:14 the promo for that and just forgot about it. But what is the name of this? Confronting a Serial Killer. Confronting a Serial Killer. And I'm going to read. This is what it says it's about. If you don't hear nothing else, this should be the funniest thing in the world to you. Not really if you have a family member or somebody that was affected by this. But what are they doing in the name of entertainment?
Starting point is 02:22:36 We got to watch you confront the serial killer so we can get him. Go ahead, get your shit off. It says, the astonishing story of the unprecedented relationship between acclaimed acclaimed author and journalist julian lauren and the most prolific serial killer in american history sam little i'm gonna look at this no We know. I also know that crime is the top 15 of the top 20 podcasts. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:23:11 Mm-hmm. So before you judge me, y'all are sick too. We're sick together. Good point. And that's it. That's what I got for you. You're the only sick one out there.
Starting point is 02:23:21 Oh, no, not at all. Not at all. I am going to watch this American Rush on Showtime. Got to get to it. It's mad shows out there that I want to get to. There's a bunch of shows. BMF, still got to get to.
Starting point is 02:23:31 Canaan, still got to get to. BMF is good. Billion, still got to get to. Hey, Succession comes back in a couple weeks. Dark, Mr. Robot, Successions. Money Heist will be back in December. There's a bunch of shows that you just got to get to. It's really no time to be out and tricking.
Starting point is 02:23:46 I didn't realize Disney owns Hulu. You didn't? ESPN, Hulu. I know they own all that. That's what I'm saying. That's the package that they offer. No, but they own Hulu. Yes.
Starting point is 02:23:56 Yeah, it's theirs. Yeah. That's all. Money begets more money. Boy. Disney's good, boy. I like Hulu a lot. Remember when we thought
Starting point is 02:24:06 that Netflix just had a stronghold on this shit and nobody else could infiltrate? Nah. It wasn't that long ago. But then we saw Disney Plus and we're like,
Starting point is 02:24:14 oh, they're going to crush the buildings. Meanwhile, they were already crushing the buildings with Hulu. No, but... They wanted to crush it more. Even with Netflix.
Starting point is 02:24:21 They wanted to crush it more. Niggas just stole their model. With their own... You did it. I spoke on this before you did it but they stole a model with their we already got a back catalog we're gonna steal your model with our own shit that's the part and then we're gonna go buy up other companies that's the part this year i've been struggling to get through the creatives out there if if you're good at it it can be stolen it can be copied that's it no it will be it will be stolen it will be copied it will be mimicked it will be all of that and as creators we get so down and depressed we spent all this time coming up with some shit then it's like oh this took my shit it's like no you just don't but you know what i know that's
Starting point is 02:24:59 fucked up way to look at it but the real fucked up part is you might be a creative. You might be an artist. But you might not have the business part down pat. Right? So you dope as hell at creating. You're a dope artist. But then the second niggas and the third niggas can monetize it better than you. That's when you real hot.
Starting point is 02:25:21 You know what I'm saying? Like you super duper tight. When a nigga, you had the duper tight. When a nigga, you had the dope rap style and another nigga came, did it, heard it,
Starting point is 02:25:29 and capitalized on it. Speaking of copying and stealing it from you, I want to, you can hit the button for me, I want to give Smack his flowers, yo. For what he's doing
Starting point is 02:25:40 with battle rap. And I say that because I watch some other, like, Smack's motto is you can't copy respect. So he says that like y'all can do all the same shit I'm doing.
Starting point is 02:25:52 Go get the battlers, put the card on but when it's my card it's going to be looked at a little differently. I saw that because I watched no shots to nobody but I watched a rap battle over the weekend. Who battled? The main event was Saigon and Votto. No shots to nobody, but I watched a rap battle over the weekend. Who battled? Excuse me.
Starting point is 02:26:06 The main event was Saigon and Votto. Okay. And then the undercard was Charlie Clips. Charlie Clips and Oompi. I didn't mean that. I know what you meant, though. I know exactly what you meant. But I'm just, like, all all i kept saying and i was reading
Starting point is 02:26:27 people in the comments saying damn smack would never wait go ahead i'll get you know i'm not interrupting this one but no but yeah just i just want to shout smack out, man. Can you stop? That's not me. It is you. I'm looking at you. That's a ghost.
Starting point is 02:26:52 That's a monopoly. It's me from a multiverse. I see what you did there. I got to talk to Neil deGrasse. Oh, dog. That's me from multiverse. Please show that again. That's multiverse, Joe.
Starting point is 02:27:04 Wait, this is Votto and Saigon battling. There's video of it. I was hoping this was like Will Chamberlain's 100 points. Oh, we can look at it. There they go. That's them right there. All right, somebody say something.
Starting point is 02:27:17 Well, no, it was just, like I said, shouts to Smack Man. Oh, that's what you got? Yeah, that's all I got. Hey. Want to shout anybody else out? Yeah, no, and really, shout out to Votto.
Starting point is 02:27:28 He did his fucking thing. For somebody that don't rap battle, never did it, at least that we've seen, he showed the fuck up. Okay. No stumbles, no nothing. I mean, they rapped over beats. Interesting. Yeah, they tried to do something a little different. I'm not mad at it, though.
Starting point is 02:27:46 They did something a little different because rappers do that when they battle. We saw Freeway say, put a beat on. Stop, Joe, before I close the computer. Fam, you good? Go ahead. That's not me. No, that good? Go ahead. That's not me. No, that's you.
Starting point is 02:28:09 No, it's not me. You got it. You got it. No, you want it. You got it. No, you want it. No, no. I don't want it no more.
Starting point is 02:28:12 No, chill, chill. No, no, no. Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!
Starting point is 02:28:17 Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!
Starting point is 02:28:21 Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! All right. I'm done. Okay. I didn't see this,
Starting point is 02:28:29 but if I wasn't straightening some shit out, I would have sainted it, and I would have enjoyed every second of it. I don't care how this was. I don't care who won. I would have watched it, and I would have gotten my money's worth out of it. If I watched it for free,
Starting point is 02:28:45 I would have doubled back and paid who I was supposed to pay. You know what's funny? That's how I feel about this. I paid the dude that streamed it for free. DNA tooth? I was like, yeah. I had to do that. I had to shoot the Cash App song. Is there a part two coming soon? I want to see. Is there a sequel? I want to see the
Starting point is 02:29:01 Vato Saigon sequel if it happens. Or the third one. What's that called? The trequel? Yeah, let's roll with trequel. A trequel. Let's roll with trequel. Trilogy?
Starting point is 02:29:13 I want to watch the trequel. That's the word. It's called trequel. I want to watch the trequel. This is a trequel. If they have a trilogy, I want to watch it. Listeners, I hand you my black card with this. This weekend, y'all are giving me the trilogy that I didn't ask for.
Starting point is 02:29:31 Wilder vs. Fury. Part 3. That's happening this weekend? I'll probably watch it. What that mean is? That was a deep sigh And Joe Both of y'all deep sighing Give me something
Starting point is 02:29:53 This is like the Big Daddy Kane Versus take I don't wanna say it Whatever my take is I'm not saying it Y'all got me last time With part two If you ever in your life
Starting point is 02:30:01 Put Big Daddy Kane In the same ring Pun, as these niggas. Are you out your fucking mind? I'm listening. Don't even say Big Daddy Kane name with them. I got your point. I'm listening to you. You said you don't want to give your take, i.e. the Big Daddy Kane KRS-One versus.
Starting point is 02:30:22 These niggas, they name don't even belong with Big Daddy Kane's name. That's what I'm saying. All right. Cool. Black people I spoke to over the weekend are angry at me at what I think
Starting point is 02:30:35 is going to occur this weekend. Let me say that. Let me say that. Let me say that to you. Well, they'll be mad at me too for what I think. So I'll say it.
Starting point is 02:30:47 If DeAndre Wilder don't hit this nigga with one of them monster shots, he's getting his ass out of here. I love niggas with white girlfriends. I love niggas with white girlfriends. Say that shit. Say that shit. DeAndre Wilder, if he don't hit this nigga Fury with one of them monster shots, he getting out of here.
Starting point is 02:31:11 Fury just a better boxer than him. DeAndre Wilder hit hard, though. So if he catch him. DeAndre. Huh? DeAndre, I mean. If he hit the nigga with one of them, he could put you to sleep. He called him DeAndre Jordan.
Starting point is 02:31:22 He going to fuck us up. He could put you to sleep. But if he don't. Anybody else got a take? Or me and Ish just going to greet us all the time? All right, shut up. I'm done with you. I don't follow this shit.
Starting point is 02:31:33 All right, all right. No takes it is. It's the no take pod. No, y'all gave takes. It's the no take pod. We don't have a take because we be fake. Facts fake Big facts Black people
Starting point is 02:31:48 Y'all got me in fight number two He put on the Black Panther outfit He stood there I think his eyes was glowing And I was hype And he got beat the fuck up What happened to his eyes after that? Yeah it was bad
Starting point is 02:32:02 It wasn't the greatest Now don't think that I'm saying what I'm saying because I feel like I could beat him. I can't. And if you're angry about what I'm saying, then it's just a bad night for me. But after what I've seen in the first two fights, I'm rooting for Deontay.
Starting point is 02:32:21 But I don't think he's winning this. I think this is a money grab. Money grab. It's a big fight. Which I'm not mad at. I ain't think he's winning this I think this is a money grab money grab it's a big fight which I'm not mad at I ain't mad at it either but it's time time telling let me shut up man
Starting point is 02:32:31 I'll watch it y'all got 60 out of me 70 out of me 80 out of me whatever it is I'm paying it but but but
Starting point is 02:32:38 I'm not confident as a black man going into this I'm not and I'm tired of seeing I don't want to see dominant white people on TV anymore. For real. This is like Jake Paul, but for real.
Starting point is 02:32:51 No. Stop showing me white people that could beat up black people. Would you fight one of them? The Pauls? With American history all we've been through here, you think that's right? Should we have to look at Fury? No, stop. Stop for a minute. Because this has been on my mind For a lot now
Starting point is 02:33:05 With all that black people Have had to endure In this country Y'all think it's right for us To see a Korean dude In baseball Doing that shit He was wild
Starting point is 02:33:17 See black people Don't want to talk about it What he did Yeah what he did What the fuck you mean What he did He fucking hit 70 home runs And stole 70 bases And threw 100 strikeouts.
Starting point is 02:33:27 The only person to ever do it since like Babe Ruth. The only person. It's just him and Babe Ruth. Whatever they did. 50 home runs and 50 strikes, whatever he did. But I'm looking at this shit as a black man saying, wow, Bud C. League. That's the optic you want black people to see? This dominant Japanese dude?
Starting point is 02:33:48 You mad, man? Everywhere we look, somebody got dominant somebody. Somebody's dominant somewhere. They got the Japanese dude. The gay's got Saucy Santana, what his name is. Everybody's dominating shit. I don't want to see he's a black man. I want to see Fury get up there and do what he has to do.
Starting point is 02:34:05 No, no, no, no. Sorry. Cancel me. Cancel me. Simp, you know we got black people dominating shit too, right? Shaqari? No. I wasn't even saying that.
Starting point is 02:34:17 I'm just saying we have black people dominating shit. What? We've had- What we got? Tell me. Tell me who they are. We've had Venus Williams dominating for years. Serena, excuse me. Dominating for years. Serena, excuse me.
Starting point is 02:34:27 Dominating for years. You don't even know. I don't follow it, but don't change the fact that it happened. Naomi. Simone Biles, like, what are we talking about? We dominated. What happened when Serena yelled at the dude for cheating? Yelled at the line coach or whatever his name was for cheating.
Starting point is 02:34:45 They reminded her she was black right no she told him she didn't have to cheat he accused her of cheating what did they do remind her she was black I don't remember yeah
Starting point is 02:34:55 hey get the fuck out of my face now minus you the next seven points and don't talk to us nothing again about what you think cheating is going on hey hey
Starting point is 02:35:02 do me a favor first of all don't raise your voice over here and get your little ass back over here to the spot. That's what they say. Same thing you say about Dez Bryant screaming on the sideline versus Tom Brady screaming on the sideline. That's the point I make.
Starting point is 02:35:12 That's what they say. When Serena gets passionate, they don't call it passion because she's a black girl, dominant in the sport. They probably only said that about Tiger, but he had all the endorsement deals in the world. They couldn't say nothing about him. You couldn't say nothing by the time he was rocking. By the time he was rocking.
Starting point is 02:35:25 By the time he was showing all that fist bump, hugging his dad, they just loved him too much. But Serena, who else you want to name? LeBron, they graffiti'd some shit on his house too.
Starting point is 02:35:34 Look at what the tops, look at what the tops, I'm not saying that we don't have people in the top, I'm saying that our people in the top ain't treated like people in the top.
Starting point is 02:35:41 That's what I'm saying. By whom? What are you, I'm asking you, they graffiti'd some shit on LeBron house? LeBron is the NBA. That's what I'm saying. By whom? What are you? I'm asking you. They scoffidied some shit on LeBron House? LeBron is the NBA. The NBA lets that nigga
Starting point is 02:35:49 do whatever the fuck he wants to do. This nigga leans in the building leans. Fam. What does that have to do with the world win? Oh, the world?
Starting point is 02:35:56 Am I talking about the sport? You're talking about the world. You confused me. I'm saying black people can be dominant in the sport. You can be the best we've ever seen in a sport. And that don't change how you're viewed and treated outside of it.
Starting point is 02:36:09 So, I mean, yeah. Hold on. I'm with you with that. Still nigga. You started off saying something different. That's fine. We're going to change contextually. But now you see why I get so mad at the Jake Paul when it comes up.
Starting point is 02:36:19 I know. It's totally unrelated for people. But for me, wow, this white boy can come out fucking talk shit about a few people knock out somebody that wasn't even in sport and now he's just thrown up to the top
Starting point is 02:36:31 black people gotta be at the top stay there 20 years do all this shit and still not be treated like it's the top maybe I'm relating things
Starting point is 02:36:38 that shouldn't be related come on let's move on yeah I think you are shit I don't I don't but that's fine I'm not here to convince nobody today
Starting point is 02:36:44 what else we got I don't have anything don't, but that's fine. I'm not here to convince nobody today. What else we got? I don't have anything else that needs to be covered. Actually, I do, but we'll do that on Patreon. If you are not subscribed to Patreon, please do so. We'll get to the real shit over there. Marshawn Lynch is the first ever chief brand ambassador of the NFLPA, which I think is pretty cool.
Starting point is 02:37:01 See? See? Round of applause. No, it's more than cool. It's amazing considering who he was when he played. Yeah. It's amazing. It's amazing that I drafted Chris Carson fifth round in my fantasy, and now he's being outperformed by the third string back on the Seahawks.
Starting point is 02:37:17 But we'll talk about that at some other time. You're talking to the nigga that drafted not only Chris Carson, but Rashard Penny. Oh, yeah, you did. I drafted him. Boom. Now here come the third string nigga talking to the nigga that drafted not only chris carson but rashad penny oh yeah you did i drafted him boom now here come the third string nigga want to kick up i hate it here i hate it here but sleepers it is so i landed yesterday i was home minding my business trying to get some sleep and then somebody hit me and said yo dog did know that Stokely has a song out with her? Stop the world.
Starting point is 02:37:47 That was dope, though. Stop the world. No, I didn't know that, messenger person. And two, did you know I've been waiting for that my entire life? So here it is. They got a video, too, I think. I don't know. I don't know because people don't want to tell me what Stokely's doing, but I founded it.
Starting point is 02:38:10 I founded it, and I'm here to bring it to you. Would you like to hear it? Here it goes. And it sound like what the fuck you thought it was supposed to sound like, goddammit. Baby, I've been wondering If you're superhuman I can feel your energy from here Brand new Stokely, I'm in condition featuring her This record is called Rush I rushed right to it, I ain't playin' no games I ain't here for nothin'
Starting point is 02:38:41 So baby, I'm sorry This came right off some straightening that I had to do You know how to change the atmosphere It sound different when you off some straightening that I had to do. This sound different when you do some straightening. Shut up. Back to this straightening. I'm going to say this and I'm going to let the record play. There's a lot of y'all out there that's younger and you're finding into and attracted to older guys let me say this before this record comes on to you ladies who who i'm speaking to
Starting point is 02:39:12 yo the niggas that be 41 and up i should tell y'all on patreon yo them dudes man dangerous they be chilling they reserved they into they family they into they business
Starting point is 02:39:34 they working multiple revenue streams into the important things but if they decide to take a minute and just focus on your little young ass, man, it's the thing of beauty.
Starting point is 02:39:51 It's like Michael. It's like a Bob Ross painting. When you, when you, when you ball a little ass up in a ball, that dick body fucking thrown out of intermission. It's looking at you like you Jesus up there. Yo, what's wrong with you?
Starting point is 02:40:11 No, what's wrong with them? Go ahead. You don't want to talk about it. That dope. You don't want to talk about it. I don't want no sauce. We can talk about it on Patreon, but not on the pod. I'm scared.
Starting point is 02:40:24 You don't like when y'all do that. All of that shit that you've said in the past that I forgave you for. I forgave you. Dick didn't, though. Dick heard you. Bitch going all crazy. Dick ain't even all that. Fuck out of here, nigga.
Starting point is 02:40:39 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, and wait a second. Why would you say that about Dick? He's only been nice to you. Great. Your bestest fucking friend. See another girl start acting crazy, and now all of a sudden, Dick ain't all that. Well, now what you think Dick going to do?
Starting point is 02:41:01 What he going to say? How Dick feel? He hurt. He got to prove himself. He surely do. He got to show up to the match. I mean, in all black. No, he can't smoke weed before that race.
Starting point is 02:41:12 No, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. He show up. And then when he show up? He show up in all black, no socks. Boy, boy, that piano. Get tuned.
Starting point is 02:41:23 Piano started hitting a different note. Let me go ahead, man. I ain't playing with y'all niggas bad. Hey, y'all leave them old niggas alone. Let them get to their work and painting the house and taking garbage out. What else old niggas is doing? Hey, let old niggas continue to check the weather. Yo, we looking at the weather next year.
Starting point is 02:41:42 Yo, you know it's raining this month next year. Here y'all come on the plate. Now Dick got to bust you upside the head a couple times. That's straightened out. Now you want to insta-story how much you love your old nigga. Boy, you was just subbing him to death a few months ago. Leave Evolve Dick alone before you learn something about your pussy and yourself. Go ahead now.
Starting point is 02:42:06 Stop playing now. That's a whole lot. Go ahead now before I teach you something about your pussy. You didn't even know your pussy could do that. Leg get the shaking. Now I'm going to hold the leg. I'm going to have a hand on your neck. Now you can't shake.
Starting point is 02:42:19 Now you're dying inside. Now you're loving me. Shut up. Stop playing. dying inside now you loving me shut up stop playing I'm stopping this record Stokely's from In Condition, In Condition is from the 90s this is old nigga shit you can't let no old niggas do shit like this and do the old nigga shit it's important that's it whatever old nigga take a break and go get something what you think you're going to get dick pill uh fucking pussy pleasure the rose he getting something that's gonna it ain't gonna help
Starting point is 02:43:02 it ain't gonna help no i depend on your day You might just be going to get You might just be going to get A glass of water nigga Cause I'm in here working out But you know But that's why And that's why I'm gonna play this record
Starting point is 02:43:12 And I'm gonna get out of here But as an old nigga I'm 41 I think I'm in the old nigga box now You Ever look at your dick Performing You're like
Starting point is 02:43:23 You don't tell her It's like Oh you don't tell her. It's like, oh, you showed up. Oh, you nigga showed up. Oh, this nigga getting buckets. He showed up today. He is,
Starting point is 02:43:33 it's the playoffs. It must be the playoffs. This nigga is standing up. He in pockets with a pussy that like, he is adventuring in this pussy.
Starting point is 02:43:44 This nigga just shooting from three. He is exploring. Yo, you Steph Curry in the pussy. like, he is adventuring in this pussy. This nigga just shooting from three. He is exploring it, yo. He's Steph Curry in the pussy. Niggas never pulled up from back here. Nah, it's real shit. It's real shit. The girls don't want to tell us about it.
Starting point is 02:43:54 As men, we don't want to discuss this. No, we know. We know. Nah, it's true. Nah, it's true. Nah, it's true. It's true. I watch.
Starting point is 02:44:03 Nah, you just stand there. That's when you go get some water Yeah you know You wait right here We get pictures We get pictures of like What we believe She in the same position
Starting point is 02:44:11 She ain't moved We get pictures of what we believe UFOs to be like Or aliens to be like Like when they come down We see something for like A couple seconds Just go away
Starting point is 02:44:19 Right Like that's all the images That we know of This nigga about to make me laugh. Like, that's what it feel like when you see her pupils leaving her eyes. Like, yo, bitch, your pupils was just right there. It was there. Now you sitting there looking at me like one of these Star Trek niggas.
Starting point is 02:44:39 Why you ain't got no pupils in your eye? I done fucked your eyes out of your fucking system. Those niggas ain't laughing. They not feeling me. They went with Bezos. They ain't feeling me. Took that quick trip to space. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:44:54 Why your fucking forearm hairs is dancing when I dick you down like this, bitch? You never even seen your forearm hairs do this before. I'm out of here. I'm out of here, man. Ain't nobody going to feel me out there. of here I'm out of here man anybody don't feel me out there I straighten that out though we ain't gonna have another problem for at least three weeks at least three weeks I might go on a fucking spree the next three weeks
Starting point is 02:45:16 I can feel your energy from here I'm joking No Joe Biden I ain't here for nothing Stokely! I ain't here for nothing I ain't here for none of that, you little young whippersnapper So baby show me something You know what I'm here for You know how to change the atmosphere Old nigga vibes
Starting point is 02:45:38 Talk to him Stokely Here we go Feel good Feels great Feels good, feels good, feels so good, feels so bad, feels good, feels good, feels so good, feels so good. Before those drums drop, what happened when you fucking old girl and you unlocked that other stroke? You ain't did that stroke in three years. Why don't they want to talk to me?
Starting point is 02:46:20 You know how long it been since I did the frog shit, bitch? Oh, yeah, you was in your bag. Somebody bag. Bitch! Oh, yeah. You was in your bag. Somebody bag. It wasn't mine. Getting all of it. I fixed that right on the board. All right.
Starting point is 02:46:34 Back to music. All right. I promise I'm not interrupting the war. We out of here. Then when you talk to the pussy. Get out of here, man. I don't want to talk to the girl. I get to talk to the pussy Get out of here man I don't know what you're talking to girl I get to talk to the pussy Pussy talk back
Starting point is 02:46:50 The pussy talk back to you boy She mad at you But that shit is thriving on you What? Let me keep talking And I ran out of shit to say But I ain't here for nothing
Starting point is 02:47:03 Mic check one two one two, one, two So baby, show me something Brand new stompie Shout out to Make Conditions Shout out to the R&B heads out there Her, you are working Don't think it's going unnoticed You are working
Starting point is 02:47:16 Let's go then Hey Hey It goes I know we're getting closer When you take me up We're getting to the best part I can feel it when you feel the rush Rush, rush, rush And when we come together, or we make a mess
Starting point is 02:47:53 No more to be silent, let it go When you feel the rush Rush, rush, rush Lost, lost, lost Your touch, your smell, the way it felt this time I can't get it off my mind I don't mind, I don't mind I can't take it, got me chasing I'm on a temper, I don't care, it feels right Yeah, yeah, yeah
Starting point is 02:48:41 Good, feel good Good, feels good, good, so good Feels good, so good, so good I know we're getting closer when you take me up We're getting to the best part I can feel it when you feel the brush When we come together, oh we make a mess No point in being silent, let it go
Starting point is 02:49:20 When you feel the brush Let it go, can you feel the rush? Yeah Let it go It's more than just a physical You leave me so emotional I ain't never getting tired You got me needing you every night Baby, I might sound crazy I might be out of my mind
Starting point is 02:49:44 Oh, yeah Might sound crazy, I might be out of my mind Let it go, let it rush, let it flow We're getting closer, when you take me up We're getting to the best part, I can feel it when you feel the brush Brush, brush, brush And here we come together, all we make a mess Don't wanna be excited, let go Can you feel the rest? Rest Rest
Starting point is 02:50:31 Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest
Starting point is 02:50:31 Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest
Starting point is 02:50:32 Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest
Starting point is 02:50:32 Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest
Starting point is 02:50:32 Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest
Starting point is 02:50:32 Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest Rest That record is called Rush. It's tough. Really good song. Rest in peace, Prince, because that's just what it makes me want to say.
Starting point is 02:50:46 Right. It was a Prince-esque joint. Definitely. Definitely. Shout out to Stokely. Shout out to her. Thank you. I'm going R&B.
Starting point is 02:51:00 This record is called In My Glory, and it's by a young lady from Mac town Named cashmere in your bag I will wait for the bag It's right there in the bag closet. I'll see why you picked this joint right here. The record is hard. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Best record I ever heard.
Starting point is 02:51:36 Hey, now, what's up with this? What's happening? Damn. It's not even working no more. It's crazy. I don't know what happened, bro. When you don't play records with the right intentions. And then.
Starting point is 02:51:49 I don't know about all this shit, but. Do it over? Yeah, you go ahead. Do whatever you want. Yeah. You DJ.
Starting point is 02:51:55 This is DJ. Listen, bro. This is like a dramatic way of bringing it back. Oh, okay. I don't know what the fuck
Starting point is 02:52:00 happened. He's like, yo, niggas are so cute. He's going to play this one again. He's going to get this to work. No, he's stupid, though. He's really not.
Starting point is 02:52:10 No, no, it's me, y'all. I'm crazy. I'm crazy. I see why you gravitated toward this. Oh, wait. I don't know what's going on with this. It's crazy. He just keeps cutting.
Starting point is 02:52:27 And you're going to keep playing it. Yeah, I sent it to you. Yeah, send it to me. Bam, it's my sleeper pick. What do you want me to do? Play something? Play something to play. You're stupid, man.
Starting point is 02:52:35 Shut up, man. Shut up. All right, man. All right, man. Yeah, Parks, I sent it to you. Send it to me. Let's see if it works from your phone. It'll probably work from my phone.
Starting point is 02:52:44 Wonder why. Yo, this would have been one of them android jokes if it was me nigga I don't know I don't think it's the phone she probably sent you the corrupted version of the file
Starting point is 02:52:51 man I don't know this young lady oh yeah you probably just playing it on the strength okay yo what's wrong I have no idea
Starting point is 02:53:00 she probably not gonna reach out after you play it like yo thank you I appreciate you playing my new joint as an unknown artist oh nobody does reach out after you play it. Like, yo, thank you. I appreciate you playing my new joint as an unknown artist. Oh, nobody does that. No.
Starting point is 02:53:09 Did you get it? Yeah, I got it. All right. Let's give it a go. It's loading up here. All right, let's see what's going on. Hey. Sometimes I want you close to me So close I breathe the air you breathe
Starting point is 02:53:42 Then other times I'd see where he found this Okay, let's go then Oh, nah She talking to somebody, man I don't know who's hand it could be Mm I'm alone, I'm being my glory But no worries Give me time and I'll text you back in a hurry You know I, I, I
Starting point is 02:54:13 Lose my mind trying to find the clues Draw my eyes this time Cause I am learning, I am the truth And I am learning how to move And I want to Give me all the love I need All the love I need All the love I need
Starting point is 02:54:40 And I want to Feel the truth all over me So I won't be mad when they don't love me Give me something to pay my bills Accept my fails to be alone time And be in my glory When I worry Give me time to I'll take you back
Starting point is 02:55:07 In the hurry, you know I, I, I No, I, I, I I'm not trying to find the clues Drop my eyes this time Cause I am learning, I am the truth And I am learning I am the truth and I am learning how to move
Starting point is 02:55:28 that's Cashma Cashma in my glory that shit is hard it was I would play a record off this kid Luke
Starting point is 02:55:38 nah but let's not brush over that so fast nah I'ma brush over it that's my man you see how she was cutting the plant
Starting point is 02:55:43 in the vid come on man it's important man it's not gonna grow plant in the vid. Come on, man. It's important, man. It's not going to grow if you don't cut it right. You know what I mean? Ice, how you even find out about that? Yo, so I'm going to play this guy, Lou. He signed to Dreamville, apparently.
Starting point is 02:55:59 I'm going to ask me, all right. This is GD. I'll tell you. Elvis produced. I want to know what I mean Just got in a Rapper Big Poo, Executive Producer Let's go then, Poo
Starting point is 02:56:10 Just got in the habit of switching the flow Just tryna travel the globe Tired of being underlooked in this bitch Tired of hearing I can't wait till you blow Had to step out of my shell for a bit Cuz I told me put my foot on they throat Had to let go of some niggas last year Wish they let my nigga out on parole
Starting point is 02:56:25 Niggas used to bump the woman by cold Why niggas used to warm the house with the stove? Shit, if he made it out of this bitch Ain't no telling where my talent can go Skinny nigga from the fold Used to battle rap niggas for bread when I'm bored Fought with your boy, used to swerve in a Honda A quarter to the store
Starting point is 02:56:40 Hit up the midget for Newport 100s and lottery tickets Now I be whipping some shit that I pray for All my shit paid for Niggas'll switch on you quick like what team do you play for? I dead a fake nigga like K's clothes All my life I been ten toes GED my initials So fuck with you talkin', I get every dollar
Starting point is 02:56:57 I don't have a collar, if I did I would pop it Like nigga was poppin', but bruh I can't call it Like look what we started, but now we here Niggas throwin' shade out of fear Cause where I'm at, niggas see they self Don't be mad bruh, just be yourself Cause money come and go, people come and go The sooner you know that, the more that you see
Starting point is 02:57:13 Blood ain't no thicker than water to me I count every dollar till my thorns bleed She say I got Marvin Gaye vibes with the drip Phone fuck with the vibes, I'ma dip Got hollow point tips in the clip, shit I'm in the yacht club with the whip Who gives a damn what it's worth? But you hard on follow, no hurry
Starting point is 02:57:28 So I'm real till I exit the earth We from where you mix the water with dirt We had to make that shit work The struggle be quenching my thirst I put the tears in my verse So I get the shit I deserve We came from nothing at all We had a problem we solved
Starting point is 02:57:40 Figured that shit out ourself Turned all my pain into wealth Turned all my pain into wealth, shit Now I be whippin' some shit that I prayed for All my shit paid for Niggas'll switch on you quick Like what team do you play for? Identify nigga like K's clothes All my life I been ten toes GED, my initials So fuck what you talkin', I get every dollar I don't have a collar, if I did I would pop it Like nigga was poppin', but bro I can't call it
Starting point is 02:58:04 Like look what we started But now we here, niggas throwin' shade outta fear Cause where I'm at, niggas see they self Don't be mad, bruh, just be yourself That's G-E-D by Lute Again, I guess he signed to Dreamville But he's fuckin' with Lil' Brother or somethin' I don't know what the connection there is
Starting point is 02:58:23 Outside of bein' from Carolina, but He's got a dope brother or something. I don't know what the connection there is outside of being from Carolina, but he's got a dope project. Whatever it was. He's got a super dope project. That was super hard. I don't know if I would do what your song was hard to. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:58:31 That shit was dope. And this is just in from Lil Durk's socials. Management got Durk IG and his Twitter for a while. For a while he work on album. Thanks. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Twitter for a while For a while He work on album Thanks Yeah Alright Yeah No no no
Starting point is 02:58:50 Alright Yeah Yeah No that's it Nah that's Yeah that's official Alright That's official
Starting point is 02:58:58 Ishmael I don't know what Ish doing But you know what I mean What you got for us Ish This is Ryan Trey, Pressure. You just answered for me, fuck it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:59:17 Yeah. All I cash in this, I got an A full of Bs. Dropping a bad fit, don't mean nothing to me. Nigga, I'm glad I made it Really, I can't explain it For all these games they playing But I been thinking, why niggas been Talking to the kid crazy Who you seen this year? Ain't me Benz drinking, I'm on day six Get some guys to keep the lane switched Niggas talk shit a whole lot
Starting point is 02:59:39 X6 and I'm too loud Gina turned me down in school, aye Now it's Gina on the poolside Head up in Maryland, nigga, she keep telling me the same Talking, I'm sorry, girl, I care for you But I know crazy bitches don't change I swear it's all, I don't ever know If I'm coming home, I'll still let you know And it seems to me that girls only want one thing Seems to me my niggas only want one thing Seems to me my family only wants one thing Tell me something I don't know
Starting point is 03:00:13 Don't know, don't know But to these bitches, I know everything Bitches, I know everything Ex that was done with me, came back for more I got digits and a chain, she wouldn't have came back before Then it's just lickin' weed with my niggas Cause we got some pain, that's ignored I got problems, a whole lot, you can relate Tell me, hold on, no, you don't think the same Toys for the team, and it ain't for games Faded in and out, I got liquor for brains
Starting point is 03:00:47 True, it's not me, it's you And all you ever tell me is Boy, it seems to me your girls only want one thing Seems to me your niggas only want one thing Seems to me your family only wants one thing Tell me something I don't know I don't, I don't Yeah, it did. Not hip to it. All right. We are out of here. Hopefully, everybody enjoyed this pod. Enjoyed us getting in our NPR bag.
Starting point is 03:01:37 And we went off the hinges a little bit. A lot of it. We do that a lot, though. It's fine though Seems to be our thing here That's our thing Yeah Hopefully everybody out there
Starting point is 03:01:49 Enjoyed this episode Keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there Until the next time I bid you adieu Farewell Adios Cerebroderci
Starting point is 03:01:58 Hasta la vista Adios So long Goodbye All that good stuff Remember life is a series of moments And moments pass So let's make this one last so long goodbye all that good stuff remember life is a series of moments and moments past so let's make this one last as if it's all that we have and last but certainly not least the baddies
Starting point is 03:02:13 are insecure the closed-minded women want you to teach them things and the stagnant women want you to travel with them and pay for it we'll be on my mouth. We'll be on Patreon. Discuss that part. For now, talk to him. Hey. Again, Mac, what up? Shout out to Brooklyn. Shout out to Jersey just because I'm me.
Starting point is 03:02:41 We're going to get out of here. Hopefully you enjoyed this episode. And here it go I just wanna get away So give it up for me to stay Oh, I just wanna get away I just wanna get away I just wanna get away Oh, I just wanna get away I got no idea what's going on I just wanna get away
Starting point is 03:03:08 Get away from me If you need some Seamoss, Savon is selling Seamoss I just wanna get away Savon is selling Seamoss That's right Shout out to Savon Did Savon learn how to spell absence? You don't need to.
Starting point is 03:03:27 Got it. He knows how to spell C-Boss. Got it. Real good. Purpose C-Boss. What? I'm gonna get a feast. Right.
Starting point is 03:03:35 I'm gonna have some speed. Uh. Let me get in my speech. We gone, man, but he killed the second verse too much, so I'ma let this rock. Everybody enjoy their week till we get back on Saturday, and in the meantime, here we go. Ain't no feeling like moving, ain't no feeling like moving Break through me, my word, oh If I was shooting a thing Mac is perfect for like end of summer in New York
Starting point is 03:04:09 Like fall in New York It gives me that feeling, it does Say that my son, let me get this right And let the hook go I just wanna get away Get enough of me to stay Oh, I just wanna get away I just wanna get away I just wanna get away
Starting point is 03:04:29 What I got going on anyways Oh, I just wanna get away Again, before I get out of here, if you are not subscribed to our Patreon, please subscribe. Check us out there. We headed there to have some of the more important conversations i know y'all kill me when i say that but fuck y'all niggas it's free i just wanna get away oh i just wanna get away
Starting point is 03:04:58 i just wanna get away And no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I gotta go to the office.

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