The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 481 | "The Guy Stuck In A Cave"

Episode Date: October 20, 2021

Unlike previous Verzuz recaps, Joe shared his desire to not criticize but appreciate two of Hip Hop's greatest legends (Big Daddy Kane and KRS-One) as they performed their timeless catalogue of hits ��(23:10). Joe explained the nostalgia he endured while viewing the Verzuz and emphasized how pivotal both emcee's are to the evolution of Hip Hop (32:00). The crew then discuss the viral clip of a young man who attempted to steal another mans car at a gas station which lead to a discussion regarding this current generation not fearing consequences (1:04:45). Howard University students protest due to alleged poor living conditions (1:45:30), the crew remembers Colin Powell (2:05:30), an update on the Ben Simmons saga (2:09:30) and MORE!   Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks Joe | Tone Stith - “Do I Ever” (Ft. Chris Brown) Ice | Stack Bundes - “Look N**** U Food” Parks | Roc Marciano & Nicholas Craven - “1000 Mile Stare” Ish | Rotimi - “What To Do”

They thought, man. Come on. It's him. Real talk. It's real spill. Real spill. Nah, for real. Yo.

Hold up, man. Let me put my headphones on. You can't even contain the potting. He done slipped out. Yeah, he done. Yeah, yo. Yeah, he ready. You know how it is.

You can tell sometimes when you just ready. Nah, you know how it is sometimes when you head back home. You know what I mean? Especially after, you know, chest poked when you head back home. You know what I mean? Especially after, you know, chest poked out up there. Oh, yeah, after you just dropped the fucking wedding of the century. I forgot about that part. Yeah. And then your birthday ain't too long after that.

Yeah, come on, man. Then I'm going to go up there and stunt some. I wasn't done stunting, y'all. Oh, no, y'all thought I was finished? That was a quick two-day stunting with my lady. The wedding, it was beautiful. But come back for part two of this stunt. Pull back up on y'all out there, man.

Thanksgiving coming up. Going to stunt on them again. It's crazy. I see it, Parks. Listen, man. You changed. Nah. Oh, man.

Yeah, you jazzied up the Pumas. You bedazzled the Pumas, dogs. You jazzied up the pumas you bedazzled the pumas dogs oh man why do you bedazzle the pumas shit crazy oh all right what's goody how y'all feeling tired cool parts why are you tired break it me hear it No, it was the wedding weekend All over again, man I've been drinking for four days straight I'm tired Shit Really? This guy's good, man

I wasn't sure he would show up I didn't know That's why you came down here I was going that hard with it I mean, I wasn't drinking that hard It's just when you do it Four days in a row That's still hard

Yeah I agree So what else did you do? Shit, nothing Built a studio upstate made a bunch of music yeah cook

with your little panel and wainscot walls you know what I mean yeah whatever that is he's gonna get his Home Depot talk yeah I saw your little pictures

I didn't see no pictures he put some pics up oh no he put pics up oh no he put pics up. Oh, no. He put pics up step by step. Hey, screen man. Hey, screen man. I don't think they probably still up there.

Hey, screen man. Do me a solid. See if we can find those bad boys somewhere. He walked us through. Gave us a walkthrough of the cloth top. Yes, he did. Brand new studio. That's it.

Let me hear the round of applause. Round of applause. Let them know it could be done Could be done I'm telling That's why you gotta go back To your home and do it That's right I'm doing this

You could do it too He's inspiration to them King Elmira right there My meek shit I tried to do that They rob me every day For a month straight Oh you back?

You ain't learned? Oh you got more you't learned Oh you got more You want to give Yo you stupid I did It didn't go like Parks went They kept finding New ways to rob me

There's wolves In Jersey City It was fucking 3pm I was like Alright how about 5 They was like Nah we out here

5 too dog Hey all these Little traffic lights There was a light Every couple feet too too, right? I know that ain't who I think it is. Come here, man. Give it up.

Stupid-ass lights in Jersey City. They don't even give you, at that time, they didn't give you the speed right through. Hey, we all going to turn green together. Oh, no. Yo, they did that on purpose. You call that Claremont? Might make it past Wegman.

Call that Stackman. Damn, fuck.. Might make it past Wegman. Call that Stackman. Damn, fuck. I didn't make it through. That's how they are in Newark now. They change the lights. You was pussy? Now it's, you're not hitting all the greens. Huh?

You was pussy? What does that mean? Did I want to go through nothing but green lights? Yes. Yeah, nigga. Yes, I did. Okay. You don't want to stop at the red light in the hood shit i like that when

it's his hood i like that when it's safe outside i'm in my hood i don't want to stop at the red wait no the fucking ain't my hood little fucking 15 year olds have not a clue joe button is they ain't heard of pump it up oh you mean that ain't got the damn no i got a key to the city damn no about all the great philanthropic work I done out there. Philanthropic. They don't know about all the philanthropic work I've done out there. Are you kidding me?

Come on, man. Light your ass up. You go out there. Go out to Newark. Talk about, yo, I'm ish. Remember? Yo, this is my block right here back in the day. Remember me, y'all?

Oh, yeah? And now, stupid YouTube algorithms. Yo this is my This is my block right here Back in the day Remember me y'all Oh yeah And now Stupid These stupid YouTube algorithms I don't know how they found my phone I don't know what cash register I gave my phone number to That changed

My algorithms Now they showing me Close proximity gang beef Oh shit Hey they brought the docs Right to my iPhone. As soon as I wake up, Marion Projects versus such and such projects. Oh, no.

I don't need to see that. I'm like, oh. They still doing that? Yes. In Jersey City? Yes. In every city? Yes.

In every city? Not every. Some of them. In Jersey cities. Yeah. Not Jersey City. Jersey City. Not in Jersey City. In Jersey cities Yeah Not Jersey cities Not in Jersey city

In Jersey cities Hey Jersey city Certain parts Of Them cities Cause it ain't like It used to be Before it was

Damn near the whole city Now that Marion Them shits Cause money down there Go down there Late They still out there I've seen them

I know I know They out there Gotcha Yeah I'll take your word for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just take my word. They are out there. It's different.

I promise you they out there. Yo, the truth don't never come out. What you mean? Do y'all know that? The truth don't, it's not as important. You know the truth never comes out about anything. The truth isn't important. What you mean? Yeah, tough lesson in that. It's not. The truth never comes out. Nobody cares. We talking about Jersey City, so I'm thinking about, as y'all talking about it, I'm like,

hey, I'm asking myself, hey, did the truth ever come out about that guy and the girl that was from Newark that went to the park and made a drug bustle? They made a drug deal, and then they went up, ran in the store, and then the cops came. It was a big shootout. Somebody got killed, right? Yeah. Yeah. It was a big, big, big shootout up there.

I remember that. That was that long ago. A couple years. I know. Yeah. I remember that. A couple years ago. And we never heard nothing else about that.

Nothing else about it. Yeah, you only get the story. You don't get the end of the story. The truth don't matter. So as we talk about Jersey City, I'm like, at that time, in that area, some other things was happening. It wasn't just us up there

at that point. Nobody's in a peep. No. It's only the initial story. Nah, it's cool. Don't worry about it. Got work to do. Yes, sir.

We do. Get to work. Get to work So I can get mellow, lay back and let my girl play the cello Hello, I hate jello, let me be me Relaxin' my TTP, watch a hardy boy miss the reed Greg N-I-C-E, I'm Nitro And I'm hype, so don't ever believe that you can deceive me See many visions of love and splendor Young boys back there, y'all wasn't outside

Stop puttin' the screen like you know somethin' about what we doin' I'm gonna do some real tip, stay real strong And hang on like a vice grip Use my mind to control all my body parts got another start plus I'm very smart type of man that the girls wanna read about indeed I proceed to rock down put on me

I know this is the best rock mmhmm break it in a in a in a in a in a see it break it in a in a in a in a in a I'm a hip hop pop test, I like this. You want to know what they're getting a hard on? Why?

Mark's ain't hip hop no more. Not since he bedazzled the Poomans. I don't know. We got to check his hip hop cards. So, my room now. Yeah, he might not even. This is still valid. This is for me.

We got to see. Oh, okay. This is for me. We gotta see. Oh, okay. It's for me? It is. You know you gotta get it renewed every. My shit is renewed. All right.

All right. About 20-year membership. Hey. My dude's fake. Maybe I'll do it for charity. Now my employer or my employee is making Greg an RCE. Very M-A-D. Don't ever, ever think of jerking me.

I work too hard for my boy T. lead in your ass and drink a cup of tea He's the bad alert and Kid Capri Ooh la la, ah wee wee I say Muhammad Ali, you say Flash is clay I say butter, you say parquet It's alright if you wanna make a sway I'ma wear your cap, took the deuce to the trade I originate, they duplicate I praise the Lord and keep the faith Alright, mic check, one, two, one, two, y'all know what time it is, shout out to everybody listening out there.

I praise the Lord. Okay, let's go to brain, let's go brain. Ah, let brain get a little scratch in there, okay brain. Rest in peace to the legendary guru of Korg Of Korg Mic check 1212 I said And you saved Jersey City I got a funky, funky rhyme With a funky style

I got a funky, funky rhyme With a funky, funky rhyme I got a funky rhyme With a funky, funky style I got a funky rhyme With a funky, funky style It was my favorite cartoon I wasn't even in Jersey. Yo, not enough is spoken about Nice and Smooth's greatness, man. I'm going to say that. As I'm sitting here laughing because Smooth B will never go first.

I'm laughing because Smooth B will never go first. I'm laughing because Smooth B will never go first, but Greg Nice was such a just showman, hype man, and character. Can't put the lyrical miracle guy first. Yeah, it's facts. But man. Ice, stop, yo. Fam, I'm chilling. Why are you saying Ice?

Because we done with the pretenders. Who's pretending? We got to check Ice's hip-hop card if anything. Forget it, man. He humming. He humming. We got to start checking dudes' hip-hop cards. It's too many pretenders.

My real hip-hop card ain't. Yeah, but what state is it from? That's important when you're My real hip-hop card ain't. Yeah, but what state is it from? That's important when you're on your hip-hop card. What state is the card from? My card is stamped from Jersey. It's like a driver's license? Exactly. You got the little hologram?

Actually, my shit is like a passport, though, so it's good all across the country. All right, so it's United States. Okay, so 19, this is what, 89? 90. This is like 90, 91 or something. Yeah. The first joint was in. Jersey.

How old are you around this time scene? Let me see something. Let me see something right quick. Eight. Nah. No. No what? 89?

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so don't nod your head we don't want to see movement out of you these guys they not in your it's not your palate Joe was 7 in 89

what school you went to huh what school you went to Booth school in 89 who's school Booth no no what school you went to like periodoth School in 89 Who's school? Booth No no what school you went to Like period all the way up

If you think Joe Budden Was 7 years old in 89 You're 2 years older than us Let me check your math No but he was born But he was born in 80 Oh okay I thought he was 81

For some reason My bad bro Even that's not That's not 7 either No it's not It's really not You know what That liquor That liquor's still in the city Yeah cause Mark Smart that's not 7 either no it's not it's really not you know what that's

that liquor that liquor yeah yeah cause Mark's smarter than that my bad literal dad alright alright

buddy alright cause I got time today how old is your older brother I don't have an older brother shut the fuck up then then shut the fuck up then don't tell me about

how old I was. In 89. I had a whole dude five years older than me doing all the stupid dances. Telling me I wasn't shit and I didn't know nothing about this. Bringing his older friends around, beating me up when I was nine years old. It was different at nine years old. Woo! Woo!

It was different at nine years old Woo Yeah, I mean, it's nice and smooth To our knowledge They not, wasn't a gang They ain't kill nobody They not talking about brandishing weapons right now Like, I don't, I'm not I'm not, I'm not

They good? Good music is good music I don't know what's me a kiss. I'm not a mister. Bad guy. My life's like a good music is good music. I don't know what's up. Well, that part is true. Greg Nice would never be able to say that today. I knew if that girl broke the scale, it would tear Greg Nice's

ass up today. Oh, shit. Look what I just did. Yeah. All right. We got a pod to do. Yes, sir. Can't say that part either.

Yeah. Yeah, that's it. What's wrong with them? Can't do that shit. No Yeah that's it All we wanna do What's wrong with them Can't do that shit No This is one of the Fucking our greatest

Hip hop groups Look what they was doing You better chill Before they go back And retroactively cancel them Yeah So just chill out You know how it go today

I missed it I wanna uh uh In you She ain't give consent You can't say that today How you know she Consented to you Uh uh

In her I hear all y'all You can't say that today. How you know she consented to you? In her. Yo, Smooth B, I love you, man. I didn't get to your verse in none of that. That was fucked up. Yeah, that's fucked up. That's fucked up, man. Oh didn't get to your verse in none of that. That was fucked up. That's fucked up, man. Oh, you always want a second one. Shout out to Smooth B, man.

Mic check, one, two, one, two. Mic check, one, two, one, two, one, two, one, two. I'm not for daddy. Let's press, press, press, press, press, press. What's up? 481, 481, 481. Welcome to episode 481 of the Joe Budden Podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host, Joe Budden.

That was nasty. Here with a few really cool dudes. Parks is here. Ish is here. Ice is here. And we have the young boys back there who we'll talk to later sometime to see how their weekend went. For real. It was all the nice out of here. Issh is here. Ice is here. And we have the young boys back there who we'll talk to later sometime and see how their weekend went. For real. I want to

know what they got into. Oh, yeah. Because we never get an update. I need to know. We never get an update on what they did. I need to know specifically from last weekend. It's the LIRR back there. Yeah, don't worry about it. We're going to find out. Don't you worry. That's the Long Island Expressway. That's why I specifically did not talk to any of y'all when I walked in, because I want to know.

I'm waiting. Friday night, but I'm kind of with the young boys in that. Like, Friday night, sometimes I get out of here and feel antsy a bit. So, Friday night when we left work, I thought I was going somewhere, too, until I got home. And then I got got home and shit felt so good in the house yep and i didn't really have a clear plan on what my night was gonna be dolo so around 10 o'clock i was like nah i'ma chill i'ma reserve my energy and just thought it out tomorrow and then saturday came and the same exact thing happened, but this time earlier. This time at 6.30, 7 p.m., I was cozy in the house.

It was raining. And it's getting cold outside a little bit. It's getting cold, and it was raining. I didn't have a clear path to what the night looks like. Let's not just go to a strip club and be frivolous. Rain is just there. I'll stay in the house, and I'll reserve my energy and thot it out Sunday where I do kind of have a clear plan. and I'll reserve my energy and thot it out Sunday where I do kind of have a clear plan.

Sunday, get my plan together, and I go out to my little spot, and it's Brick City. Yeah. Freezing. Freezing. It was brick as hell upstate, boy. Yo, half of that spot is outside? Yes.

And it was cold. That shit was like 40-something upstate. It was cold. What I saw when it was that cold was that the normal crowd wasn't really there. Now it was just the people young enough to be naked and withstand cold. Makes that crowd a little younger. She looks a little different. And I said, oh shit, it's over.

It's over. And then I went home right and then I went home and was freezing in my house because I always keep the air on a certain temperature yes you do yeah I hopped up out of my bed my little naked ass ran over to that fucking what's the thingamajiggy the thermostat the thermostat thingamajiggy. Yeah, but it's an awkward little walk that you do. When you're cold and shit, too. But when you're a guy alone in the house, cold, nude. It's the corny walk.

Oh, my God. Think about that walk, yo. You're trying to tuck your shoulders together to keep warm and chill. Get yourself together, Duke. Can't relate. What the fuck are you doing, man? Duke. Can't relate. I just say, hey, Siri,

turn the temperature to, and she does it. My bad, Batman. Sorry. Okay, Bruce. Sorry. Pardon me, Bruce. You guys living in the past.

Sorry. Siri going to learn you something. You trust Siri with that? Siri going to learn you something. She's going to start fucking with you. I'm telling you. You going to give it. You the reason why the chip is coming.

I'm not putting the chip in. You are the reason why, you got the chip. You a chip. You better put the chip in. Oh, the chip is coming. If Apple make it. It's cool.

We ain't going to talk about it, but the chip is coming. Yeah, I did some more research. The chip is here, actually. But anyway, long story less long, I don't never cut the heat on them, Al.

So when you cut the heat on, it's really over. No, you know. It's over now. It's Al. So when you cut the heat on, it's really over. No, you know. It's over now. It's over. So how was everybody's weekend? It was great, man. It was cool.

Tiring, but great. Great. I had a double win weekend, which I love, when my football team and my fantasy team both win. That's dope to give a football team still. My shit is gone. I don't even know what happened. I don't know where they at. They're funning and sunning. My shit is gone. I don't even know what happened. I don't know where they at.

They're funning in the sun. I don't know. I don't know. My fantasy team won though. So that was big. I had the opposite. Both of my fantasy teams lost, but the Cowboys won. All right.

Well, we're not going to try up the vagina with sports, but I was just saying I had a good weekend for that. Cool. I didn't do shit else. I have the worst fantasy team in the world. I was wondering what you were so serious about. Yeah, I'm quiet like this. Because I've avoided all fantasy talk.

Well, actually, I have two teams. In the free league, my team is a monster. Handled Ray. Didn't even think about it. Oh, word? Handled Ray. Easily. By Ray.

Right? And Ray is the monster was the Ray's the monster He's the monster He's the monster I could've fucking I said Ray was a bump Yeah

Ray was a bump But in my money league Damn he call our league The free league Yeah word I had Fucked up yo Y'all niggas don't be

Wanting to put no money up We put a little We put a little Money up We'll raise it next year. Oh. Oh. He said, oh, 250 is cool.

Y'all sound like, yeah, I'm trying to do a pod. Y'all won't let me pod. Y'all sound like, hey, me and Corey went to my dad's house. Here, go, Corey. Hey, Pop, you going to play spades no more? Let him get my... He threw that alley-oop for my dad to get all his son frustration off. Nah, Joey ain't got time to play no more.

Joey ain't got time to play no more with his career and all of that. Oh, he just let it go. No, no, he let that hammer fly. He let that hammer fly. So in my head, I just had to sit there and take it. But it's like, these niggas don't be wanting to play for no money. So that's what it's like. Y'all don't want to play for no money.

Y'all want to play a little cutesy little. But anyway, I could kill Cole Beasley. Now, if the feds are watching, I don't mean that. Yo, Cole Beasley, man. When I said him, he kills. And when you play him, he don't. He don't mean that. Yo, Cole Beasley, man. When I said him, he kills. And when you play him, he don't. He don't do shit.

And they be putting up points. But wait. But wait. The Renfro's the new Cole Beasley. But wait. And we gonna get off of this. And we gonna get off of this because we're not starting

with fantasy football. For real. This is what I hate. Cole Beasley was never a thought in my brain because of how he's been performing. Yeah. I was playing Waddle no matter what. Oh,'s been performing. Yeah. I was playing waddle no matter what.

Oh, yeah. No matter what, I was playing waddle in my money league. And I woke up Sunday morning to go put waddle in. It was locked. It was locked. Yo. The pain. The London game.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stupid, yo. Yo The pain The London Game Yeah yeah Stupid yo Yo every year The fucking London game Gets me Yeah that's some bullshit Cause I'm too busy To watch TV During the year

So you gotta be watching Friday and Saturday To know the London game Right I'm too busy To check up on The fucking The London game

I'm sorry I'm sorry dog I can't I missed it I'm glad I did check up on the fucking London guy. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, dog. I can't. I missed it. I'm glad I did. You sat Waddle in both leagues. In my other league, I didn't need to worry about that. And I sent him because I only trust him when Tua's there.

Got it. But as soon as I got word Tua was back, it's Waddle time. So now he's locked. Now I got to sit there and choose between Cole Beasley, who's done nothing at all, and Najoku and Van Jefferson. I went with Najoku because I believed in Cleveland. I believe in Cleveland a little bit. And every time you believe in them, they don't show up for the big game.

The big game. It's like the Chargers. Herbert, 14 points. Thanks. I lost by six. Oh, shit. I lost by six. Justin Herbert, 14 points.

Big game. Lamar Jackson, Ravens. You don't show up. Big game. Big game. That's still my man, but that's the bumps. You got to go through the box. It's prime time.

You in Baltimore, that's a prime time dude you facing over there. That's real shit. I agree. But anyway. Shit, Lamar Jackson ain't do nothing either. And even with that great game, you got 11 points. I was nervous for a minute. time dude you played facing over there that's real shit i agree but anyway shit lamar jackson ain't do nothing even with that great game yeah 11 points i was nervous for a minute justin herbert is my fourth round pick i need more than 12 points and i was favored to beat bum ass jaru by 60 points and loss yes kareem hunt went down down. His kicker had 17.

Arizona's kicker. What else? Don't make me put my phone down. I'm going to get mad, man. I was just about to ask you what your team doing. Oh, wait. So the Cleveland game, double whammy. Kareem Hunt goes down and the Joku don't do nothing.

They only scored 14 points or 7 points, whatever they did. 7 points. It was bad. Come on, man. I'm out of here. Come on. We got to start. Yeah, mad. Yeah. Come on, man. I'm out of here. Come on. We got to start. Yeah, let's start.

We got to start. I don't want you getting mad this early in the pod. Versus. Yeah, hip hop. KRS-One. Let's make it a hip hop podcast. Big Daddy Kane. Sunday night.

Didn't really like the slotting of it. Yeah, I hated the slotting. I loved the slotting of it. I know, and we'll find out your reason shortly. I hated the slotting. I loved the slotting of it. I know, and we'll find out your reason shortly. I hated the slotting. That should have been Saturday. Yeah, they had their big Super Cat performance on Saturday. They made a big weekend out of it.

Hopefully it was profitable. I thought Super Cat was opening up for them. No. Yeah. I realize that, obviously. Ice, why did you love the slotting? Tell us now, actually, so we can... Yeah, let's get your bullshit out of the way.

Let's get you right out the way at the top. At the top. It gave me a reason to not watch. And, let's get your bullshit out of the way. Let's get you right out the way at the top. At the top. It gave me a reason to not watch. And you was nodding your head to nice and smooth. Well, I knew I wasn't watching, but I didn't want to just come in and say I did nothing and not watch. But you schedule it at the same time Steeler football is on. Oh, great.

Now I got an excuse. Damn, I'm mad. I didn't know the versus was happening because I was watching the Steeler game. I missed it. So y'all tell me how it was because I didn't see it Cause I was watching The Steeler game I missed it So So y'all tell me how it was Cause I didn't see it I was watching Steeler game It was fucking beautiful

You wouldn't have wanted To see it anyway Well I would have wanted To see it had I known If the Steelers wasn't Playing at that time Hey shut up You didn't want to see it

This is hip hop Hip hop royalty right here And this is why I grilled him like that At the top of the bar It's hip hop royalty here Okay I didn't see it

It wasn't Dirk versus... Dirk is not doing the versus. ESTG. But if he did, you would have stopped that Steelers game. What? You would have stopped that Steelers game. So would everyone else. You would have stopped that Steelers game.

And they would have said, Najee who? And they would have said, Najee who? You know what's funny? Y'all putting a lot of pressure on Dirk to perform. You, academics, there's a few of y'all. What do you mean? I'm not putting pressure on Dirk. Y'all putting a lot of pressure on him to put up.

Jordan numbers, Kobe numbers. Real early. No. Y'all. Not me. Fans will do it, won't they? But anyway, come on. We're not talking about that right now.

Yeah, because not me. Kane, KRS-One, Sunday evening, I'm freezing my ass off outside, dying to get out of there. And I'm like, fam, I could just go home and watch Kane and KRS- Karis one I did miss the first 20 minutes I missed it missed the first 20 minutes um and by the time I got it on see the opening is my favorite part to see because it tells me it tells me what I need to know I need to see the energy I need to see how we're introduced the opening songs your first exchange publicly I know y'all been talking behind the scenes but publicly

who's gonna stick to the script who's not that's what I like to see so I missed that so by the time I clicked it it was pandemonium already that roof had already exploded off of that building

so what do you do you retract your statement a little bit well yeah by default I have to by default default, I have to. By default, I have to. He said KRS-One was going to mop him up.

No, his statement was, why is this even happening? Because remember, he kept playing the why, why, why. I mean, I still think KRS-One. You said you think KRS-One? Yeah, I think KRS-One. It was close.

But Kane showed out. It was close. Yo, you rappers are trying... I'm going to shut up because I got killed last time I said it. But boy, the rappers are doing their best to kill Bo Taker. They're doing their best to do it. Who did it now? Everybody.

Nah. We all to blame. Okay. We all to blame. But it's all of us. Really, them Southern niggas too. He's getting that money, nigga. What you talking about?

No, no. Couldn't do that before. They're going through it. But anyway, go ahead. Anyway, no, I think it was a little more. I said that because of the Fat Joe vest. I know. Oh, nigga, Fat Joe be looking like heaven.

Yeah, that nigga looking amazing. But that's why Bottega's dope, because if you don't know what it is, you just don't know what it is. No. I just know what it is, so I keep seeing it. Like, that was the first thing I said when I opened Versus. I said, look at Big Daddy Kane. God damn. I got a question for you.

Bottega down. Look at the hat. Look at it. He's a little clean. Big Daddy Kane looked like that shit. Yeah. And immediately, I was impressed and just smiling. My teeth was showing.

Joe, question. You said you're seeing botega you're interrupting hip-hop yes i am you said you're seeing botega kind of everywhere now do you think it's a situation where like like you know if you buy a new car and then you start to recognize the car everywhere no not you because you don't see your car but i'm just saying it's you don't see botega like that in the general public either but I'm saying he might be seeing it more because he started wearing it more

true so now you're in the Bottega store now you're recognizing more Bottega doesn't necessarily mean people are now jumping on it you're just recognizing it more that's what I was asking or do you think

they're jumping on it afterwards and I'm not saying because they misconstrued it last time I said it and they thought I was saying that I was responsible for the wave of Bottega. And that's not what I was saying. My what I'd be talking about is moving the goalposts. So I'll see some shit where and niggas will say, oh, my God, that's horrible and corny.

And then I'll see the rest of hip hop do the same thing and get applauded. That's what I kind of was talking about. Oh, okay. Back then. But now, no, I don't believe that because I know women who was on Bottega early and they mad. They tight.

They like, now. What are we going to do now? Everybody know what it is. It's kind of blah, blah. Before it was like, I would try to show somebody some shit and if they didn't recognize it, it was like, I don't know about that.

That's how it go with all this shit though. Until it. Like, I don't know about that. That's how it go with all this shit though. Until it's popping, they don't give a fuck about it. See, that's the phony shit though. Because if it's ugly, it's ugly. I don't give a fuck

if this shit costs $70,000. That shit ain't popping if it ain't popping. Ish. There is no ugly. In my opinion. If it's popping or is it not popping?

There is no ugly. That's a clean suit that Big Daddy Gang got on. Mm-hmm. But that same suit. White, pink, and no ugly on it. That's a clean suit that Big Daddy Kane got on. But that same suit. White, pink, and red. Even that. That's beautiful.

Example. A person that they don't like right now has that same suit on. They don't think that that's fire. I disagree. I'm telling you, we see it. I don't want to continue to speak about fashion when Big Daddy Kane and KRS-One just took place. But, Big Daddy Kane's fashion

is one of the first things I noticed and KRS-One fashion was one of the first things I noticed because that's how KRS-One has looked any time I've ever seen it.

It was true to form. No, it was true to form for both of them. It was KRS-One. Yeah, exactly. Graffiti on the t-shirt. True to form. Big Daddy Kane

was the suave, killing you style suit, silk suits with the rope chain. And KRS-One was the epitome of street hip hop. Right. The second thing I took away from me, and I'll toss it to you two gentlemen shortly, but the hip hop is oozing out of my soul. I can't contain myself. I stopped hearing the beats early in my viewing.

That's how much of a clinic I thought those two were putting on. Yeah. I knew the beats. Of course I know the beats. Right, right, right. And I'm not here to get into, I wasn't going to let my consumer ears trick me into, hey, how does this beat sound now?

What are they doing now? I didn't want to get into all that. Their breath control up there, both of them, their showmanship, MCing, their ability to MC. That building was packed. It was packed. And they did it different ways, too. KRS-One started falling off toward the end.

No, KRS was just doing more crowd interaction shit Which as a viewer watching it on Instagram Or something like that You don't really hear it But I'm sure at the show It was much doper It was probably But then Kane was up there

As far as breath control He was clean Getting through all his verses All the fast shit All the fast shit Yeah yeah 120 BPM the whole time Bad boy do a show

Good to go also He was doing all of that. Yeah. And telling us. Right. Hey, man, I know they killed these BPMs. They don't do this no more, but this is how you do this. Mm-hmm.

And then it's like, whoa. And then I'm in the comments. I'm seeing Pusha T. I'm seeing all of the dudes out there. But really, as I'm watching Kane, for me, the first person I thought of was Hov, of course. Of course. The first person I thought of. That makes sense.

And then I just go down the family tree. And then with KRS-One, damn, who the fuck did I think of? Oh, he was hugging Busta Rhymes. He was hugging Busta Rhymes. He was just hugging some of the OGs, same with Kane. And I'm like, well, yeah, these are the OGs. These are the OGs. Look how the OGs are looking at the OGs.

I like to see that. That's dope. I love to see that. That's lineage. And they went up there and showed exactly why, even still, all of these years later. I was just impressed. This is the first time I wasn't going,

I wasn't hearing the verses. I was not hearing the verses. I was not hearing the verses. It was a show. I was too busy learning. Oh, yeah. I wasn't thinking about this one beat that one. At all. At all.

At all. They was asking me, how do you think it went? I know you said this, but you seen what happened? I can't tell you. Right. Because I was engulfed, engaged. I was being taught. Yeah.

None of, I was being too grateful nothing in my life damn near is possible if these two dudes don't go do that so while it wasn't many of us watching on instagram like when i was there was 110 of us i watched it for a little bit because i had to go do some family shit so i wanted to still watch it so i was on an ig it 110,000 of us in there. But boy, the quality of those people and just the appreciation and even in the building when they was doing the call and response

and the crowd was, it was just electric for me. Yeah. It was, and this was the first time that I had the option to, that they showed me the thing, the thing I'm a jiggy wear,

they wanted me to pay. Because I did try to turn it on on the fight app. I paid. The Triller fight app. I watched it on Triller. I watched it on Triller. I didn't have to pay.

No, I paid. I think it was $3 or something. $2.99. Yeah. $2.99. It was a real good price. I paid. I paid.

I paid that. I paid. The Triller was free still, I think. I didn't pay nothing. You might have been on IG with us. Huh? You might have been on IG with us huh you might have been on IG with us

no I was on Triller on the laptop oh see I've never tried it on the laptop yeah me too overall just a real electric experience for me all the features

that came out all of that shit was dope yo this was hip this was hip hop history again for someone like me I didn't see what features

like I didn't even know Dots FX came out Nice Crew came out oh that's features? Dots FX came out. Nice Groove came out. Oh, that's why you. Okay. Who else came out? Channel Live did.

Channel Live came out. Buckshot. Buckshot Shorty came out. I saw Roxanne Shante got up there for a little minute. Oh, yeah. The whole minus Cool G. Juice Groove came out. That was the only thing that was disappointing. It was like, damn there for a little minute. Oh, yeah. The whole, well, minus Cool G, Juice Group came out. That was the only thing that was disappointing. It was like, damn, Cool G didn't come out, dog.

For the symphony? Cool G rap? They said Cool G rap. They tried to get Cool G rap for both people, but he declined. Yeah. Master Ace came out. Master G. Craig G came out.

It was somebody else in that, in the symphony. But it still was a rap hip hop clinic. It was like a show. Like if you paid to go to this it was almost like going to a concert. You got a concert. Absolutely like going to a concert. You got a concert.

And Kid Capri was DJing in Scratch so the DJing was fucking top notch. doing a little back and forth shit. Okay. I lost my mind

when Nice and Smooth came out. I lost my mind when Nice and Smooth came out. And then looking when nice and smooth came out and then looking at smooth b i thought i thought i thought jay-z again like i just thought things today at 40 that i would have never i wasn't able to think back then like just that presence yeah and just being aura all of these guys had to be the lyrical guy at that time. Yeah. Like, niggas wasn't playing with Smooth B. I tweeted it.

People wasn't playing with Smooth B's pen back then. My young brain knew that. He was the guy. And as I grew up, that never changed. Same with Kane. Like, when you have to be the guy. Fam. That guy.

Big Daddy Kane told him. that guy Big Daddy Kane told him he said something about the Juice crew wanted him to shoot at KRS and he lucky I spared him he said some little slick shit they were saying little slick shit back and forth

which kept the verses energy but at the end of the day it was a hip hop show it was like a classic hip hop show they were telling stories about how Kane helped KRS move I told you the story I said it was a hip-hop show it was like a classic hip-hop show yeah they were telling stories about how they uh can't help krs moving oh then i told you the story i said it on a pod you said a couple weeks ago he told that story he said yo my very first apartment outside my mother's crib miss melody rest in peace and krs1 helped me move my couch my tv my bed into that spot so while they were shooting each other there, there was genuine love and camaraderie.

Respect, love, and camaraderie for each other that you could just see. Cool G Rap would be the outlier. Right? I was mad that he didn't come there. I'm not going to lie. You know he in my tops. You know that nigga's in my tops.

He in everybody's top. Yeah. He in everybody's top. You know what I mean? But nah, this was dope. Red Alert came out. Yeah, it was dope. It was came out. Yeah, that was dope. It was dope.

But, again, a lot of these young cats don't even know none of this. The whole B-Boy Rock City crew. They don't know what that is. Oh, my God. They don't know what that is. Hey, come on, man. They don't know what that is. Red Alert, damn near 70, bro.

It saddens me that the, and I, not to be the old guy, what did Neil DeGrasse call me the guy stuck in the cave. Damn. You lying. God.

He science dissed you. Word. You Neanderthal ass nigga. You fucking cave dweller. Light a fire

you dumb motherfucker. Yo why is that so funny? You ain't even evolved yet. Yo coming from the smartest nigga on this planet that's funny. That's why that so funny? You ain't even evolved yet. Yo, coming from the smartest nigga on this planet, there's money, nigga. That's why that's funny.

You fucking me, man. Because now what you going to say? What you going to say? Nothing. Nothing. You Star Trek. Tell me why I am. Yo, Star Trek.

Tell me why I am, Neil. Okay, Captain Kirk. And he did tell me, but I still disagree with what he said. Fuck that shit, man. That's funny. Damn, you forgot what I was saying man

you all stupid he said the nigga called you a cave before that he was talking about red alert and crazy legs oh it sad

it saddens me that the newer the newer generation and the younger kids fuck not having appreciation cause they missed it

they didn't go back I'm not gonna be that cave man but it saddens missed it they didn't go back I'm not going to be that cave man but it saddens me that they don't at least speak more to having gratitude that this pathway exists because of some of these people

that that's true but some are predecessors is that their fault? I don't care my brain didn't even get that I'm not assessing blame I don't know I don't know I'm not assessing blame I don't know

I don't know I'm just saying How I feel And it just Saddens me I think I damn near was brought to tears Watching this shit

I'm sure What the fuck do I do What do you do Without Them Them And those two KRS-One said it too

He said yo It wasn't that many jokers It was him Rakim Rakim Big Daddy Kane And Slick Rick Is the four that he named

I think he said Cool G too I don't think so But Cool G is one of them Cool G rap Undoubtedly It's one of them

But Again dog And Cool G rap came out later He came later But When I was in Elementary school These niggas wasn't playing. Right. So again, fam, nothing takes, there's no Jay-Z without them.

There's no DMX without them. As I old you are, I didn't even have to remember that Coogee Rap came later. You said that. You are old. He did. I know he did. Oh, okay. When you say that.

But boy, you old. Yo, fam, these niggas was got. You knew that off the, you was there. Yo, you hear. Oh, okay. When you say that. But now, yo, fam, these niggas was got. You knew that off the, you was there. Yo, you hear him? You right. He was at the Coconut Spice. Yo, he's so stupid, yo. I think if I wrote the riches.

That nigga is correct. That nigga was got in school. I was. Yo, you was there for Cool G's rollout. I was. That's ridiculous, but go ahead. Go ahead, man. But anyway, nah, dog, like, you Like you gotta think As far as hip hop is going

Like Jay Z's a billionaire Kanye West's a billionaire Right There's none of that Without these niggas No doubt Look at the path That hip hop has

Paved Right For just black entrepreneurs Right Like that's something We take lightly But hip hop is opening The door for a lot

Of black wealth Man hip hop has become A global force But for I'm just saying But for blacks Like urban blacks That wouldn't have had for a lot of black wealth. Man, hip-hop has become a global force. I'm just saying, but for blacks, like urban blacks that wouldn't have had potentially another way to make no bread, hip-hop is that vice for a lot of niggas. And that's why it...

I agree. Like, that's amazing, my nigga. Like, you gotta applaud these niggas. And that's why it saddens me because look at all the things that had to happen for some of our legends to be appreciated correctly or get a bag swiss gotta get with timberland and they gotta go get with apple and then wait till that deal is up and then go get with trilla they need to come up with this

amazing concept i like the show proof of concept that was dope and now we're here well that's kind of what i was saying and now we're here when Yeah, it was. Well, that's kind of what I was saying, Joe. And now we're here. When I asked you- Boy, that's some bullshit. When I asked you, is it their fault? It takes something like this here to kind of teach this to the kids. Because somebody young have no idea, and where would they learn it from? I got you, though.

But once you get engulfed in the culture, right? It's like, again, Charles Barkley and them. When I tell you them niggas worship the Bill Russell's they worship the dr. J's like they pay homage to them like that's they dad right and that's dope when you hear Shaq talk to them Shaq calls the mister he like that's one is the Russian removed ish I'm talking about but let's not know when you go from I'm talking about like a rookie today hip-hop was bad for some of us, man.

Word. I didn't have to be the guy to say it. No, it's true. But I thought it as I was watching the places. So what I'm saying is, once you become a part of hip hop, in my opinion, you got to go listen to old hip hop rappers. That's how you get sharper. I disagree with that.

They don't have to do that. And they won't do that. But what I'm saying is, once you become a part of an ever-evolving hip-hop because that's important the hip-hop that let's say i start rapping today the hip-hop today drake is your og drake is an og correct so which is why you hear these young dudes say wayne future drake are the that's the beginning to their pinnacle you give them saying they don't know anything before that so that's why I say is it their fault because where are they gonna learn it from how are they even gonna know to go look up Big Daddy Kane you don't there's no there's not

no there's no hip-hop like library there's no hip-hop encyclopedia there's no where do they go to if someone wanted to become a fully a full student of the game if they looked up big daddy kane i'd be mad that they didn't look up clark kent like that wouldn't you get what i'm saying satisfy me you you wouldn't well it's just saying but that's for the djs to do i agree with ice and and what y'all are discussing but what i get from what is she saying which i agree with even though he didn't say it is i just feel there should be some type of responsibility to be had by by the participants i agree with y'all but i'm saying if let's i'm gonna use myself if i was to come in if i'm a young dude trying to come in and rap where how do you begin to even research it you know what i'm saying like ice they're the they're the tech generation youtube

got everything i'm saying it wrong. There's no lane for them to just go and say, yo, we know this came from this, from this, from this, from this, from this. But when you start saying 50 greatest basketball players. You start saying where they're influenced by, that's where they go. These cats go to Wayne. These cats go to Drake. So that's why I said it took something like this here to teach them. We didn't have this before.

So it took verses. It was a walk down memory lane. Again, a lot of these kids wasn't even born. Look at the crowd. This was such a thing. Oh, no, you seen the old heads in the crowd. Word for word. I'm talking about old white boys in the crowd word for word like going crazy multi-syllable

yo going crazy i seen girls in the crowd bro work mouth in every single word i know but you saw it in a militant fashion it was militant and that speaks to the crowd control that speaks to what they were doing from the stage that That's what was emanating. If that's the word I'm looking for, that was from them. Look at this. That crowd.

Even Buckshot is an old head to these niggas. I know, that's why it was beautiful. And he paying homage bowing down to them niggas. You got to. This shit is amazing.

You got to. I agree. Which is why I didn't hear none of that. Versus what? Versus who? But again, I didn't hear none of that Versus what? Versus who? I don't care Like they been saying

This is a celebration This is a true celebration right here This is niggas getting That's what Versus kind of turned into Niggas getting they flowers When a young person watch this This is a history lesson for you In real time.

Like, these niggas was, yo, bro. Like y'all said. My bad. I didn't mean to cut you off. Like you said, you're seeing Pusha T. You're seeing cats that the younger cats do know in the comments blown away. It's like, okay, these are who they looked up to. This is a- Well, the crazy shit, too, is a lot of these guys, Pusha T, Kanye, Hov, if you go back

and listen to Kane and Chris records, you'll hear mad bars that people reused and recycled and flipped into some new shit. They do. The whole shit. Watching that shit. They do. You damn near could rap half of it and never have heard the song. Right.

Because it'd be a whole punchline, a whole chorus, a whole something that they took from that's true one of kane's shit you are just such a journey for me man just and even again i keep saying in what what i think today versus what i thought then look at fat joe amazed like we all should be but anyway fucking uh like when when i get the job done came on uh kane boy was i happy to hear that song right but when that song came out me as a fucking nine year old or how old i was at that time i was just jamming and i was like oh shit, Kane's on the radio. I'm jamming. Awesome, I love Kane. He should be there. Today, I hear an act trying to get a single out. Definitely.

That's what I hear today. Definitely. And then I come to greater understand what his plight was. All of them. Back then. All of them. As a lyrical guy trying to get a radio single out with no internet, no whatever. It was funny.

It's you versus Rakim. It's you versus G-Rap. KLS1. It's you versus Slick Rick. Hey,Rap K-R-S-1 It's you versus Slick Rick Hey Hey the greatest Adventures of Slick Rick Just dropped

That's a hard thing Your move Your move That's what I be Thinking about When that happens Cause I be joking around Just from my era

With like It was funny too Speaking of eras When he said something To the effect of You had an album out I only had a single out. You had more money.

I could only I could only drink Heinekens back then. But like that thought process it doesn't really work like that anymore. A single might be you might be more

financially popular than the album. Times have changed. Yeah. Totally. And he probably didn't get his

advance money yet. Right. He was on cold chill. He probably wasn't even really advance money yet right he's on cold chill you gotta think about that he's like yo no we was having drinks but i wasn't on hennessy yet because he was like yo you was a hennessy nigga he's like no no no not yet i was still drinking heineken's i ain't had no money like that's crazy the nostalgia that they you know what i mean that they shared that shit was crazy the history what those eyes have seen who they look up to like my brain just going down a rabbit hole my brain goes down a rabbit hole when dudes when when that's happening it's bonnie g and i was real glad that

i saw this i was real glad that i was wrong about whatever i said going into it i was whatever i said going into it thank god I said going into it, thank God I was wrong and thank God I was stupid enough to be wrong and not even think about the fucking, the awe that I would just be in and just the lessons and just the gratitude with that space. That feeling that took

over me, I'm going to shut up because I don't think so many of y'all shared that with me. But it's something. It's a lot to do though. Don't get it fucked up. Thereall share that with me. But it's something. It's a lot to do, though. Don't get it fucked up. There's a lot. There's a lot to do.

No, there are. I'm just saying. But he a rapper. You get what I'm saying? Like, I'm not going to look at it in the same capacity that he going to look at it because I don't rap. I'm just a fan of music, and I was outside

when these niggas was running around. So he looking at it differently, though. It's like, nigga raps. So again, they paved the way for every rapper today. Yeah. Literally. Like, no, not. No, you're not exaggerating.

I'm talking about literally. They paved the way for every single rapper today. The rappers today can't out-wrap them that way. No, they can't. I was with rappers. With that control. I was with rappers. Some of control. I was with rappers. Some of my people in Elmira

were watching this shit and they were just like, bro, he's going crazy. Kane's going crazy. You know, Kane went crazy. He went nuts. And they didn't necessarily, nor did I necessarily grow up on it.

We went back to certain shit, but. And that's where I was wrong coming into it. Bro. Because coming into it, I was thinking about records and songs. Right. And some people are just greater

than their catalog could ever display and that's what they was killing they was like yo like people that are my age on Twitter on Instagram was like yo Kane about to get busy in here like Jokers would his aura was that of Jay Z he's really him

like his aura was like Jay Z if you had to compare him to somebody he was yesteryear's Jay-Z. Right? As far as stardom. Like, he was a superstar. And that, you get points for that. Like, you can't discredit that.

You know what I mean? Like, I don't care what he up there saying, you can't discredit that. And that nigga was a rapper, rapper, bro. All the technical and lyrics. All of that fat. Yeah yeah yeah now i'm you know what now from this point moving forward and i knew this already but you're gonna shut up thank god you get to have things reaffirmed for you from this point moving forward i will assume anyone that is locked in my top 15 of all time to farewell in these.

The end. Yeah. Because they made it to your top 15 for a reason. Right. They're there. They're there. That's a good point.

That's it. Like, we don't need to keep being surprised that Jadakiss keeps popping up and being him. Right, right. Why do we keep getting,

oh shit, he's a murderer. No. No, no no He been there Day in the life This is him Day in the life I mean we can even kinda

I don't wanna put him In that top 15 realm But he close If he any close No, I'm just saying Even when we went to go see Ja Like niggas really forgot What Ja was doing

In the early 2000s Until he got up on that stage And he was like See And that's what made me love Versus I forgot that that right there i forgot and we were there right we were there and it was like i forgot i forgot that when vita ran out on that stage and them niggas went nuts you're like i forgot that yeah he got that effects came out but that's crazy think about that oh i had a cd store tape store that was right down the block from my school.

And the same way now, every Friday, I just browse through shit that I have no idea what it is. That's what I did in the record store. Yeah, every Tuesday.

Back then. Every Tuesday. Every Tuesday. Well, I did it every day just because I didn't know nothing about when things dropped. I just went in there to peek around and things.

My high school, I was going on Tuesday, every single Tuesday. What the hell is this? Buy one CD, go with the homies. They get some other shit. You know, you get the tape because you can record tapes back there. You record the tape.

Or you don't have enough. You got enough for one CD and one tape. You don't have enough for two CDs. No, it wasn't no CDs when I was a kid. We was tapes. And you put the little stuff in the top. When Dance FX came out, I, as a young boy, went and bought batteries for my boom box and took it outside. What was that shit called?

Straight Up Suicide? That was the name of the album. I don't remember. I don't remember either. Because remember they used to be coming from the sewer? I don't think it was Suicide. Sewer. Straight Up Suicide.

Like they played on Suicide. Yeah, there we go. That was the name of it. Straight Up Suicide. But I took my boom box and went outside and just walked. I just walked with the album playing. I was blown away. You were scared to walk with your radio, nigga.

You were scared to walk with your radio. New Jersey City niggas got a new radio that day. You was in Queens. You were scared to walk with your radio, nigga. No, they knew about me. That's a nine-year-old. I can run fast. I can run fast.

You have to catch us, me and my radio. This was just classic. But I'm just saying how I felt. It was so nostalgic. Bum, skippity, bum, skippity, bum, bum. Until they started talking about the verses. But that's what made me want to appreciate them even more because it's like hey those of us that didn't get to 20 songs true some of them is still left yeah some of them some of them really i was so mad nice and smooth didn't get get more

songs i was heated when the wick went off i was no! No, they supposed to go crazy right now if hip-hop junkies come on in here. But it came to KRS time. I get it. Some of these niggas was real integral in hip-hop. Even if you don't have 20 songs, you played a major part in hip-hop in your era. In your era. Yeah, I want to keep seeing dudes come out. Bring Special Ed out.

Bring Kwame out. Bring them Ed out. Bring Kwame out. Bring them all out. Bring Brand Newbie and out. EPMD got to get a versus too at some point. Come on, man. These people are still here. We're still here. Bring the Death Squad out.

Come on, man. I mean, I'm with it. Come on, man. Rest in peace, Guru, one more time. Rest in peace, Guru, one more time. Wow, what a clinic. What a clinic. I was honored more time. Rest in peace, Guru, one more time. Wow, what a clinic. What a clinic. I was honored to watch.

I keep saying, I know y'all think Versus be paying me. They don't. It's one of my favorite ideas of all time. No, no, no. If you're a music fan, how could you not? If you're a music fan, this is crazy. Time. My only knock is I'm tired of New York Versus.

That's it. That's it. There's so much else out there. I would love to see. That's true. Come on. Go to Houston. No.

They're not going to do that. Well, I think they're going to do that. But what I'm saying is the current people that I think you talking about, I don't think they're. I'm not even talking about. No. I'm saying you can go. I see Bun B doing this. Against who, though?

You know what I'm saying? They can put it together. who though you know what I'm saying there's they can put it together no that's what I'm saying like so Juicy J Juicy J has to come Juicy J's been trying to get

3-6 versus Bone Thugs since it started he's been trying to get that I believe you what I you it's still about the business and the marketing

I get it you gotta find a video like where would you no at this point now yes where would you do it you didn't

shut up no you didn't watch this I'm talking about versus period shut up yo I don't have to watch this

we're also not gonna sit here and act like a a 3-6 slash Juicy J and Bone Thug shit wouldn't sell out a fucking good thing

where though that's the thing where would you wherever they have hits I'm not disagree? Wherever. They have hits. Yes. I'm not disagreeing with you but it goes into business

at that point. Yeah, I'm with it. Sorry. With New York, yo, you got Big Daddy Kane and motherfucking K-Restaurant. You have to go sell

that idea to people who don't necessarily understand what you're saying but you can't get the money to do so without them. Yeah. I understand what y'all

saying but I think you're sleeping on the value of those two groups. We're not. I'm not. I'm not talking about culturally their value. I think if they can sell out, fucking sure they have hit records.

They have a lot. Bone Thugs has hit, hit, hits. It's strategic, though, wherever it would be. I'm not a fan. I'm a Bone Thugs guy. I'm saying where would you have it? Give me the Bone Thugs hits. It's a bunch. Crossroads Thugs. For I'm saying. Me too, so give me the Bone Thugs hits. It's a bunch.

Crossroads, Thug Love. For the love of money. First of the month. Yeah, first of the month. Notorious Thugs. Notorious Thugs. Thug Love. They got the pop joint.

That's where we slowing down. No, no, I'm running off the top of the head. Me too, but that's why I asked. I didn't ask because I don't know the answer, but that's why I asked. If I told you to give me 20 cane off the top of the head, you would have never do it? You heard what I said before we went into this, so I don't want to say that again. Okay.

After five or six, you slow down a bit. You will. To the business people, they wouldn't know the five or six. If I'm saying they don't know nothing about nothing, you're going to have a hard time convincing them of that. I know this because I saw what happened when they threw the idea out of Nori and Beans. I'm saying they don't know nothing about nothing. You're going to have a hard time convincing them of that. I know this because I saw what happened when they threw the idea out of Nori and Beans. And I know what that would be like, trying to go pitch it to those same people. That's why we haven't gotten it.

There's a few of them that they've been floating around that we haven't gotten, that we as purists would love. That's true. That tells me the trouble that they may or may not be going through over there to get certain things done. That's why they're holding Busta Rhymes in the talk. They're holding some of the people that they could get this done with. Because you could get Busta Rhymes done in any city. You're getting Busta Rhymes done in the heartbeat. In any city.

Anywhere, anytime. It's not hard to explain. Let's just find the right opponent and hold it in the talk. Busta's at every one of these events. That's not for no reason. You could have Busta Rhymes anywhere. You see. That's not for no reason. Mm-hmm. You can have Busta Rhyme. You see what he said? Anyway.

When he pulled him up on a Saturday. He did his verse Saturday, and then before he stopped his verse, he said, yo, find me a worthy versus opponent and drop the mic. Hey, Busta. He said that for a reason. Hey, Busta came out a year ago and said, T.I., you can leave 50 alone. What's up? Busta.

He said that. T.I. said no. Yeah, I bet he said no. I think they have a list. Busta's going to that. T.I. said no. He said no. I think they have a list. Busta's going to be a long day for somebody. My point is that yes and no. No, Busta's going to be a long day for somebody. I'm hearing rumors about Busta and

Missy may be a possibility. I've heard rumors. And Busta is not giving Missy Elliott a long day. I don't know if that's going to happen. That should not happen. But he ain't even heard. I really hope everybody stops saying it. Because of her R&B bag a long day. I don't know if that's going to happen. That should not happen. I hope everybody stops saying that. Because of her R&B bag a long day. Anybody else? Rappers?

Any of you rappers? Long day coming for you. Versus is not videos. So y'all can stop saying that. Yes, Busta and Missy make the greatest videos in hip hop. I get it. Stylistically. Yes.

Artistically, stylistically. It's not true. Because cut the videos off. Missy Elliott has songs. That's what I'm saying. That's not what he's saying. I'm saying this is a terrible matchup, Busta versus Missy, because versus is not videos. If it was a video battle, okay, cool.

You can do that. That's what I'm saying. They're saying because it's songs, they shouldn Because it's songs They shouldn't match up They don't match up Because Missy just pulls From too much Busta's a rapper Sonically

Missy's written too much She's a fucking R&B act as well It's producer They're not even See but I don't think Missy is fair for really nobody Might as well just give us

Missy and Lil' Kim Just give us two girls That's what I was saying That's the only person I can say she can do Yeah that's the only one For me to make sense Cause Lil' Kim has the catalog

To be able to stand there Yeah she does Yeah To stand there Just to stand there. Yeah, she does. Yeah. To stand there. Just to stand there. This is a long night for... Stand there and withstand... That's the only person I can see Missy says it's a long night for Kim?

No, I'm saying Missy is going to... It's a long night for anybody that goes against Missy. Absolutely. I agree with that. But the best chance... Not Kim, anybody. Would be Kim. I agree with that.

Kim can... And people that make sense. Kim can withstand that and shoot back. Yes. That's why she's the only one That makes sense She could Until them other records come on Yeah yeah

Until the other records come on Yeah there And it's a Quite a few of the other records Kim is my That's the queen That's the queen I ain't

No this gonna become a celebration It ain't versus I ain't mad about Lil' Kim I'm staying on the side of Kim In what? Huh? Even when the other records come on? Whatever the fuck she wants to play

Oh yeah You different Okay Okay I was outside I ain't mad at you I was outside Nigga we was outside

Yeah I was outside We was all outside We was outside for Kim I was grown I was grown grown I don't know I had the picture on the wall

I'm telling you I was grown enough Yeah I was shooting smoking and fucking I was shooting, smoking, and fucking. I was shooting, smoking, fucking, fighting, robbing. I was grown enough when Lil' Kim came out. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying.

I wasn't obedient by the time Lil' Kim came out. I wasn't so just tell me the instructions. Speaking of that, let me read some shit that I read real quick. Where's my phone at? Just a second. And then we can move on. Did you watch the opening thing with the DJ battle? That was dope too.

Scratchin'. Yeah. No, no. It was unknown DJs or up-and-coming DJs that did a competition. I just thought it was dope. It was an all-encompassing hip-hop show. Is that the battle that they were talking?

Because remember, they were saying before they were trying to do some type of thing for someone to win and become the DJ, the official DJ for Versus. Oh, maybe.

I didn't see what the prize was. Oh, my God. Now we're promoting the Triller concerts, please. No, no, no. I'm not promoting anything. I'm talking about asking if that's what airs, man.

A little promo game tools. No, no. Who can be the best DJ? We're not doing that. I'm not promoting anything. I'm talking about asking if that's what airs, man. game tools. No, no. I ain't watching none of it. Who can be the best DJ? We're not doing that. I'm not promoting anything, Joe. I ain't watching none of this.

Sorry, Triller. We're going to need one for that one. Off my not so instructional thing, real quick. Got this from D.L.

Hughley. Shout out to him, friend of the show. He says, curse words coming, potential sponsors. Nine to five is bullshit. Unpaid lunch breaks are bullshit.

Working all day to go home and have two hours of free time before bed is bullshit. Five day work week is bullshit. Working yourself to death is bullshit. Retiring at 65, while unlikely, is bullshit. Starting adult life in debt from student loans is bullshit. Giving kids seven hours of school and then homework to ready them for the never-ending grind is bullshit. It is so frustrating that we have one chance at life on this earth and humanity chose taxes and credit scores and pollution instead of floating in the ocean and eating fruit and hanging out. That last part was inspired by the Zod, for sure.

Yeah. That was the Zod talking. Yeah, yeah. How that was the Zod. He dead ass right. No, he's right. He's right. What I'm just saying, you come up with that part while you off the Zyde

laying somewhere floating. Fruit in the ocean with the honeys and the Zyde. We just get all the Earth stuff. No, you had to pull some yamins in there. You don't doubt our ability. That nigga ain't say nothing about no coochie. This nigga just pull it right in the water with him. With the fruit.

Fam. Fruit, coochie, and water? You think men got egos now. If you take capitalism off the planet, how you think all the men? It would be 300. It would be our purge. Yeah. All of us would think we could get them over to our spot in the water.

I'm going to hate to tell you. I'm going to have them with me. What? I'm going to have them with me. They had a dinghies around my shit. Come on, fam. Yo. Woo.

Yeah. It's not even fair it's not fair my shit would have had a grass skirt for him what's up you need a little grass

cold grass blanket or something my shit would be lit back then what I don't doubt myself in no generation that you put me in

well me either that's after the ancestors do the real grind get us out of the mud what no no that and that one no way don't is do the real grind. Get us out of the mud. What?

Nah. Nah, that and that one. No way. The hunting? Well, I would be the one to die. I'm acclimating to wherever I'm at, nigga. Well, I'm looking at me in this life, so I know what would happen in that life.

I call myself sitting here on the podcast, getting the info back here Bringing it over here Letting the good people know Coming up with a plan together Unionizing Working in concert To maybe get to a greater goal You see how my ears been

So imagine that back then So back then we all just gonna be Thugging it out I'm gonna think I can take one of them white niggas My brain gonna start working I can think I can handle one of them white niggas Somebody gotta pay me rent I'm gonna be the first one out to cuff You hear this nigga My brain gonna start working. I could think I could handle one of them white niggas. Somebody gotta pay me rent. I'm gonna be the first one out to cuff. You hear this nigga?

I'm getting rent money. You know what I'm doing. You hear this nigga? He getting rent money from him. He getting rent money from him. I'm getting rent money, nigga. I'm gonna try to unionize and dudes is gonna be pusillanimous and I'm gonna get shot with a bow and arrow. I'm your man, my nigga. We gonna get this bag

and some hoes Well thank god we don't have to think about it We can't get a hold of him I don't I'm 45 I'm 45 But 25 Come on man

With some abs And some pull ups Shout out to Big Daddy Kane Shout out to Karis1 Legendary Shout out to Supercat Again Shout out to Timbaland

Timbaland Triller Thank you Thank you Kid Capri Thank you Just thank you. Kid Capri. Thank you. Just thank you.

Kid Capri had bars for scratch. Thank you for that night, and thank you for everything and all of it. Everything and all of it. It's true. That's what I got. That shit was beautiful. That's from the entire Joe Budden podcast minus ice. No, no, no.

I said thank you, too. Minus ice. That's this side over here. Shut the hell up. Because I keep seeing that up I'm thankful for that Fans be like Yo the Joe Budden podcast And I'm like That was just Ice

Only Ice said that Ice didn't shit on any of us Let me go ahead and text Meek Yo dawg That was Ice That's why you texted Meek It wasn't us That was Ice

Again Again I'm joking I'm joking I'm joking of course Yo y'all seen the The shit with the dude At the gas station Twice. Again. Again. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking, of course. That's funny. Yo, y'all seen the shit with the dude at the gas station? I believe it was Atlanta.

I did not. Where the dude tried to... I'm sorry. He tried to car... Well, not a car jack, because the guy wasn't in the car. Dude pulled up to the gas station to get some gas. And jumped out real quick. Left his car running. Yeah.

Jumped out, went wherever he went, maybe to a store. A young dude walked up hopped in the car and was about to peel off was about to drive off and my man came back

ran right up had a gun on him pointed at him young dude got out the car you couldn't hear what was said but you could tell

by his demeanor that it was like some apologetic yo my bad now they said he talked to him for 45 minutes. They cut it. But when the clip ended

it cut right at dude putting his arm around the dude and walking off. And that's what led me to wonder like what happened next. But then we heard. Then we heard. Actually I'll play what we heard. Y'all can talk about it. Go ahead. So basically it was a kid though. Like what really fucked me up was

the boy was little. Like, in size. I don't know how old he was, but he looked mad small. He looked young. And my man was driving a Black Benz. He jumped out. You know how you leave your car running, like, haphazardly. Right.

The little boy just, like, jumped in it. My man ran back over there with a gun. That ends badly. Yeah. If the older dude didn't have the heart of mind to school him so he takes him out the car he puts arm around him go walk with him so of course you know it was a little bit of verbal big brothery pow pow type shit that he he gave him but that could end really really badly you know i'm saying like real real badly right everybody

been here me up everybody been calling me I'm at the same gas station right now and this is a guy who had the gun yeah for the most part she you know I love my car running the keys in the car but I know me though you know I know me anytime I have ever left my car running talk about it now i'm probably in a well-known neighborhood where i'm from or like west making new yorkville but somewhere you feel safe i'm up here in east atlanta you know i've come to highway to texaco i love my car running but i'm watching my car at the same time sure I love my car running, but I'm watching my car at the same time.

Sure enough. Of course. I pretty much peep everything. I watch movement. I watch body language. You're giving it to you. I watch how people talk. You're giving it to you. I grew up like that.

You watch everything. I was over here at my partner's little spot. Get some ribs and have a back turn. Get some ribs, hungry. But I look back and glance. So I glance every couple seconds, every few minutes, every couple seconds. And I see a little jet trying to get in the car.

A little jet? Instantly right then. I ain't even know how old he was. I could have shot the car from the little 30 yards I was away from. But I ran up on him. Brand new car. I ran up on him. You just bought the car. Yeah, it's his car.

I understand. I shot my car. You know what I'm saying? At the gas station. That's when I realized he was a child. At the gas station. That's the other part. Yeah.

He pretty much surrendered, put his hands up, got out the car, and told me, you know, hey, please don't kill me. Call the police. Ain't no rat shit, you know what I'm saying? You know, I actually saw the little homie in me. You know, like,

I ain't never did no shit like that. I had to do no shit like that, but I did some crazy shit when I was coming up. We don't need to hear no more. You see what type of time you're on? Yeah. See how you gave it up?

Commendable. Round of applause. Yes, absolutely. Whoever that gentleman is. Round of applause for he on. Yeah. See how he gave it up. Commendable. Round of applause. Round of applause. Whoever that gentleman is. Round of applause for that man. Yeah. Patience. That's OG shit. Patience, tolerance, grace.

Yeah. Because again, he just said, yo, I could have shot the car. I was 30 yards away. I could have tore the car up. Right. He said, yo, when I got up on the car, the boy's little, my nigga. He's real, real small. So he's like, yo, I could have, you know what you know I mean I definitely wouldn't call the cops on the boy never

in a million years what I've called the cops on the boy I might have plucked him upside the head a couple times and shook him up to scare him right but the talking to was way more valuable than any of that no doubt and you see he's in the video he says how scared the kid was the kid is just like you'll just call the cops on me just shoot me just don't just don't shoot me you know I'm saying me. Just don't shoot me. You know what I'm saying? Like, you don't even think of, but that goes to show a lot of these kids not thinking about consequence. Like, he's not thinking this dude could

have a gun on him. He's not thinking this dude is watching his car. He's not thinking anything that this could go left. It's just, oh shit, there's a car running. I'm about to come up. And to show you how, yo, you in Atlanta. They giving it up out there. And that's what he says they giving it up in atlanta so i don't see what a little kid could have not realized like yo

this could happen he jumped in the car so haphazardly that it was like nothing he ain't peeled off yet you're supposed to have to you know what i'm saying but again shout to that gentleman i don't know his name and maybe i'm just an extreme thinker, but to the point that Ice was just making, I read some shit where they're coming out with removable tattoos. Huh? Temporary tattoos, real tattoos now, that operate as henna, like a long-term henna.

So you can get a tattoo. And it'll fade away eventually? And it will just go away on its own wow look at technology and just advancement and what you could do on the flip side of that you get really really sad because we're grooming a generation without consequence and that's what shit like that does. That's what it does. Yes and no. You know who did my first tattoo?

Shout out to B Wise. Jailhouse, Jersey City nigga. Know why I got it? Just because my baby moms at the time was into niggas with tattoos. And I didn't want to leave me with a nigga with some tattoos. I went and got some bullshit on my arm. And it stayed. And her and I broke up.

And boy, the character building that that did. The lessons that that taught me. Hey, the frame of mind you had to be in when you learned you needed a cover up. How you were going to cover it up. The thought process that went into putting something permanently on you. I wanted a neck tattoo early in the game. My mom threatened to whip my ass every day. Because boy, how you getting a job with a tattoo on your neck.

So I never got one. Until I just didn't't give a fuck and I'm solidified in rap. And however it goes, I'm going to get one because I ain't going to work a corporate job. Back to that statement that I read earlier. But, yeah, wow, that's great. And round of applause. Awesome. Boy, the flip side of that is horrible. I got to give you some pushback.

I love it. That's why you're here. That's why they give you Potter of the Month. No, they gave you Potter of the Month. They said ever since you got home from Rikers. No, I read it. They said you got home from Rikers and been showing your ass. They said you must have learned how to show your ass.

Man said I'm never going back. I'm going to stay on top of this shit. Yo, you stupid. I get it. Hey, Parks, my sound effects is kind of low. I ain't going to hold you. They said that, too. I ain't going to hold you, my G.

Yo, nah. You're right. It's definitely bailing niggas out. But I think oftentimes when you're a kid, you're doing dumb shit. And you don't really understand the ramifications that, you know what I'm saying? You're going to face based on the dumb shit you do don't really understand the ramifications that you know what i'm saying you gonna face based on the dumb shit you do later on in life so you a kid you 18 you 19 you rebellious because your mother ain't let you get a tattoo your whole life now you're 18 she can't tell you

nothing you go get some big shit on your neck right you don't know what in corporate america that's gonna ever ever ever uh what are going to be the consequences behind that decision in corporate America. Right. So you go to college. You get on a straight and narrow. We've seen a ton of times. Nigga Malcolm X, Martin Luther King,

they all went to jail. Right? So you're 18, you're 19, you're doing dumb shit. And now you get on a straight and narrow path. That tattoo could have long-term consequences once you're on a straight and narrow path. You get what I'm saying?

Yeah, what you're saying is part of the character building I'm talking about. Yeah, I know, but I... That's part of my problem. I agree with you. You need that. I enforce that. You need that. I like that.

Because now that teaches you shit. Like Joe said, shit I do today can affect me forever. We just read the story of Broke Over the Weekend. Let me get this out real quick. We just read the story of Broke Over the Weekend. Let me get this out real quick. We just read the story of Broke Over the Weekend of one of the gentlemen involved in Pop Smoke's murder, may he rest in peace, is telling his lawyer, Yo, dog, lessen my charge because I didn't participate in the killing. I drove the car. Not only did I drive the car, but the plan wasn't to murder anybody.

I told them dudes to use a flower vase and attack him. And I was so angry at what they did that when they came back to the car, I assaulted the alleged murderer. I hit him. We had a fight because that's how angry I was at what he did.

Cool. But nigga, you drove. I hit him we had a fight cause that's how angry I was at what he did cool but nigga you drove you don't get to escape the consequences of the result cause you drove now legally maybe he'd be able to beat that cool I'm just talking about grooming a generation

that don't really think about all of the consequences. We can't say that, though, yo. Again, you can't say that when it comes to kids. You just can't. They get grace. We all were kids at some point. We all did dumb shit at some point.

I know personally I've done shit that could, nigga, I got shot point blank range two times. I could not be here on this microphone right now. So you can't say that I was 20 years old. You can't say that kids are not allotted grace. Because they are. You're learning. We've all done different shit. All of our paths have been different.

Some done more shit than others. But again, kids should get grace. Now, in the case of the boy, I'm not agreeing with that. Because you know when you set out to go rob somebody, it's an armed robbery. You drove the car nigga you part of the crime right you are definitely

a lot of times you are definitely a lot of times a lot of times they don't know that though you're on a compass but I'm just saying a lot of times

they think all I did was drive the car this was not supposed to happen you drove somebody to a robbery I'm saying that the planning part

he's saying they're not thinking about I just want to jump in here to a robbery. I'm saying that the planning part, he's saying he shouldn't get the murder charge. I just want to jump in here and let Ish remind Ish, we do not have an argument or a debate here because everything you're saying

is right and I agree with. Kids do and should have grace. I'm saying that when they don't is when a real lesson is learned. Yeah. That's it. I think sometimes.

But again. But I'm with everything that you're saying. With the issue of the tattoos. Let's stay on the tattoo piece. Okay. Let's say it takes 10 years to wear away. Right? I don't know how long.

You know how long? Short. Five, 10. We'd have to find an article. Yeah, but five or 10. Let's say five years, 10 years. So now you learned from that dumb shit you put on your neck when you was 19 right that it hasn't worn away to you 24 25

years old you haven't really been able to join the real workforce until you 25 years old when the stupid ass tattoo wears off i think it's a lesson in that but i think it's if i disagree with you hold on joe i disagree with you only because it's a softer lesson if it is a lesson because it's still telling me i don't have to deal with the consequences of this forever no i had to deal with every shit that that will happen talk to that you are going to have to deal with the consequences forever i agree with that let me let me jump in and add to what ice is saying. And I don't disagree with none of you saying. But if you take away even exposure to consequence, then you heighten sensitivity.

And sensitivity is already at an all-time high. We just had this talk with tattoos. We were talking about tattoos, right? And he was like, hey, but why tattoo hurt if you get it right here? And I was like, well, because it ain't exposed enough. It's in the tuck. It's hidden. That's the same.

It's the same thing here. You write about everything you're saying. But the grander picture to that is if that continues for the next, they don't even, Neil DeGrasse said it don't even take a long time. It take 30 years. We'll be alive for it. 30 years. Then what does the next whatever look like?

I understand. And I don't like that. I got your point. I just think that at a certain age, we've all been kids. We've all done dumb shit. Like, yo, you could have been a kid and been in a car. Y'all ain't get caught. But that decision, being in that car, could have cost you the rest of your life.

You could go on to be a great influential person in the community, and you needed to here you didn't need to be a prophet you didn't you didn't need to be in that car hold up so you didn't need to be in that car right that's not who you are in your core you went on to do do grand things for your community for your people for your family for all of that shit but you were 17 18 years old in a car that you shouldn't have been in. And if those consequences stick, you don't go on to be the great person and individual that you are. So I think that sometimes grace is a great thing.

I agree. I'm with you. No argument from me. Yeah. No round of applause. Back to the car thing you were saying. No, no, no. No, he does get a round of applause for that.

Oh, okay. Back to more applause. I do agree. But to the car thing you were saying. No, no, no. No, he does get a round of applause for that. Oh, okay. Back to more applause. I do agree. But with the car instance, what happens is if there's somebody being in that car, something happens and they get away, no consequence, maybe a close call. But because nothing happened, they'll keep some. A lot of times, they keep doing it. Some.

They keep. A lot. No, a lot. Some. Again. it they keep you a lot no a lot some again you just feel like oh they're gonna happen to me oh yeah i heard it happened but until it had until they see consequence some a lot ish not some a lot i think it's a relative i think that if you're a good kid or if you're a scary motherfucker you could be a scary dude right you could be a real scary dude let's say you we could take it off a real harsh crime you could be a scary dude. Right? You could be a real scary dude. Let's say you we could take it off a real harsh crime.

You could be cheating on your girl. Okay. And you almost get caught. Uh huh. You like whew. That was close. I ain't fucking around

over there no more. It happens. Some people learn from that's the lesson for some. Okay. Not for everybody though. I'm not saying everybody. Some motherfuckers

gonna keep getting cheated. But I'm saying a lot of people whether they get caught or not but a lot of people will see that as damn I almost got caught let me do it better next time so this don't happen

you're right they don't learn from it until they get caught you still don't learn just hear me out just hear me out can y'all close this

somehow just find a way one of you alright come on fuck it no nah but what I'm saying

in that instance is sometimes it takes something drastic to happen to make you realize oh shit in this case with back to the tattoo let's bring it back you being fucked and realizing damn this this altered my life trajectory maybe you won't get no more tattoos maybe you'll do it'll just teach you differently there is a consequence once you start removing consequences permanent consequences yeah niggas get to moving

a little bit more freely thinking nothing's gonna happen to them that's all I'm saying you ain't trying to read about stupid ass kids that's all I'm saying you ain't trying to look at stupid ass kids

bro I'm a tap out cause we staying on the practice for so long I'm gonna disagree and I'ma just hold fast in that you don't get to make a mistake

when you're a kid and sometimes suffer the long you saying basically you made a mistake when you was 18 years old you should have to deal with that and you should have to deal with that for the rest of your life

even though you've grown and matured as a person and I disagree with that wholeheartedly disagree with that cause I don't know what life you lived but I made a shit ton of mistakes when I was a kid and I'm no longer that man or that person that I made them and I shouldn't have what life you lived but I made a shit ton of mistakes when I was a kid and I'm no longer

that man or that person that I made them and I shouldn't have to suffer them for life. Bars. I've ran the streets as a kid and some of that shit

that we was doing I didn't reply to nothing I said. That's why I didn't say nothing. I'm not disagreeing with that. You did. You did disagree. Not with that.

That ain't what we saying. That's not what I'm saying. That's why I just left it alone. You did though. But alright, cool. Alright. Moving along.. That's not what I'm saying. That's why I just left it alone. You did though. But all right. Cool. All right. Moving along.

What else y'all got? You know what you got to go see? We got to go see, I saw it over the weekend, but we can all go again. Uh-huh. Fuck. That Broadway show, right?

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Ish told me to go get some culture and stop fucking with the strippers and escorts because I was like, oh. This ain't going to say you bitch ass nigga you going to Broadway, please. Oh, you bitch ass nigga. Yo, you know how I know Broadway is back open? Because a couple girlies I know hit my phone

and be like, yo, I'm going to the Broadway. I ain't have fun, man. You ain't take them. No. You only go on the hookah spots. I'm the nigga that you hit after you finish all that bullshit you heard. That ain't me, stupid. I'm not going to play with you.

I'm glad that women know that about me. Hit me when you're done and you want to get away from the girls. Yeah. I didn't know you was there, though. I might have went if I'd seen my man. Oh, shit. Look at this loser. Oh, shit.

It's just there with my moms in them. My moms went to the Tina Turner play. You see why we don't have no culture? You see how the young black men being raised by you fucking. They don't even view me as young. They put me right in the senior citizen box. I know, which means you're supposed to be giving a young life insurance guy what sounded like on the phone when I spoke to him. He ain't sound like me as young. They put me right in the senior citizen box. I know, which means you're supposed to be giving a young person culture. Let me tell you what my life insurance guy was sounding like on the phone when I spoke to him.

He ain't sound like I had long. Oh, you were cold? You know how the insurance people sound when you give them your address and you're in the hood? They be like, oh, oh, you're there. You're there. And they was like, how old are you? No, 41.

All right, you smoke? How long you been smoking? How long you been smoking? Yeah. What else, 41. All right, you smoke? How long you been smoking? How long you been smoking? Yeah. What else you smoke? All right, you doing exercising? Oh, man. We caking off you.

You told the truth. You are out of here. You're supposed to lie. Put him in the top tier. Yeah, you're never supposed to tell the truth. If you lied to them, who did you lie to? Them. Shit.

All right. Them. Them, nigga. When your coverage stays the same You just getting a lower rate You lied to them I want to know when the country thinks we're dying So I ask

So I give them the real information On Final Destination, the DVD Let me show some age On the DVD The bonus section of it They give you life insurance advice? That's why the sound effects still low, Bumass Engineer. They tell you when the sign gonna chop your head off.

Shut the fuck up. They had a little game on there where if you enter your birth date, they'll tell you when your transition date will be. And look who really entered it. I put my real birthday. Because if you lie to them Cause if you lie to them. If you lie to them you lie to you. The game

won't tell you when it's over. This guy is nuts man. Yo bro. You my guy. You need a hug or something yo. Who the fuck wants to know that, Joe? Who wants to even play that game?

And who's trusting the Final Destination DVD? And you're trusting the Final Destination DVD to know your date. The bonus section at that. If y'all talk for two seconds. This guy. I'm going to find him. Too late, too late, too late.

It's over. Just that fast, I found somebody that wants to know that. Because you asked. Now, if you were asking a rhetorical question. It was rhetorical. So you don't want me to answer it. I don't want you to answer it.

But I found somebody. I believe you. There's a bunch of nutcases running around. Okay, so the answer to that question didn't help your point, debate team captain. It didn't. Of course it was rhetorical, semantic literal man alex murdaw he sounds like a crazy white guy just like you joe is a crazy white guy come to think of it you are a crazy white guy judgment from a young

black successful man judgment toward another black another black man could we go into Broadway man empowerment is a myth too we'll get in the blower way after I tell you about Alex Murdoch

since you asked the question fuckhead man Alex Murdoch didn't think I would have the answer it sounded like

he was swindling someone out of some money and after I tell you who Alex Murdoch is I want I'm gonna ask you

a follow-up question and then you can tell me about Broadway. Go ahead. This is South Carolina stuff here. Shout out to Sumter, South Carolina.

Alex Murdoch, the South Carolina lawyer whose wife and son were shot and killed in June asked a former client to kill him this month so his other son could collect a $10 million insurance payment. But he survived being shot in the head. Long story less long,

the gentleman that he asked to do it went to jail. Shit. So now my question to y'all before we get into Broadway and we don't have to make this long and drawn out is how do y'all feel about that? I got a question for you first. How did you know right where to go to

on your cell phone? This nigga's crazy, dog. Round of applause for our research, our research and development team. It's you. Right over there in the back. Right immediately there. Because I've been meant to ask y'all about that.

I think that. Even that story is from about probably a month and a half ago. But I've been meant to ask y'all about that. I do feel like the guy shouldn't go to jail. If I ask you to kill me. That's what I want to know from y'all. Just that. It's some notebook-ish love affair type of cool shit, I guess.

My man went to Broadway and is referencing The Notebook in the same episode. I don't fit in a box. Why do you think he shouldn't go to jail? Because I'm thinking all this time in America, the people that go to jail for first degree murder,

that's the state doing right by the victim. And things like this story remind you that it's the state doing right by them yeah that's why i'm like why do you know i was lost if i ask you to to get me out of here and we have we can prove that like i have recording i have a letter okay i'm the person that did it is the beneficiary of my shitty ass power attorney like if i'm set up here right

why is that guy going to jail? Not to be morbid, but does that make sense? Yes. That makes sense. It's a thousand percent sense to me. No, no, no. One thing for certain.

To me? Yes, it do. No, no, listen. The only thing I'm... The rapper's... It's insurance for him. That fucking guy. It's just insurance for him.

Because now, the nigga that... You purposely killed yourself. You don't get an insurance policy for suicide. I got a better one. They should have came up with a better plan. No, he shot him in the head.

I'm going to tell you an even crazier one. Stupid motherfucker won't live after getting shot in the head. No, no, check this out. That's bad planning for sure. That is terrible. Let's just put an end point here. Yo, who would have thunk? Yo, Ish, check this one out. And this is a true story.

A guy hooked a gun up to like a drone or some shit. Oh, I think we talked about this. Or you mentioned this. I did. Oh, yeah. But had it kill himself. Had it shoot him and pull and go and hide the gun somewhere so that it couldn't be proven that he killed him.

All for insurance. They found out. They traced it back, whatever, whatever. So he killed him. All for insurance. They found out. They traced it back, whatever, whatever. So the policy did not pay for it. But back to y'all's statement, I 100% think the dude should still go to jail. For what? It's a crime.

You still committed the fucking crime. Yo, you hear him. What are you talking about? You hear him? You see him? You hear him? I really hate him. You don't have to hate me.

I'm bugging. I hate you. I hate you. Murder is illegal. Yes or no? Oh, my God. Yo, you are really. Y'all are fucking nuts.

Yo, yo, yo. Y'all are nuts. Y'all are nuts. Just listen to your Dirkio and chill. This is a 65-year-old motherfucker from Wisconsin that just likes drill music. Y'all are nuts. He's from Kentucky. And he likes drill music.

Y'all are nuts. No bullshit. We're nuts. Yeah, y'all are nuts. He's from Kentucky. Y'all are nuts. He likes drill music. Y'all are fucking nuts. No bullshit. We're nuts. Yeah, y'all are nuts because you want someone to break the law. It's okay now because you want them to do it.

Ice, I don't believe in the principles that the laws were built on. That's the person you're talking to. That's a whole different debate. No, it's not. It's the same debate.

It's the same exact debate. You said you don't believe in the principles that the laws are based on? Yes. Guess what? They still exist. That's true. What the fuck are you talking about? We've all broken them. That don't counter my belief principles that the laws are based on? Yes. Guess what? They still exist. That's true.

You break them though. What the fuck are you talking about? We've all broken them. That don't counter my belief. We've all broken them. What are you talking about? Yes, we have all broken them. All right, so,

and this is what I'm going to say to you because I don't, you know I ain't no rat, but you've broken some laws. Yes. I broke some laws today. Then shut up. So, this,

I didn't get caught. But you stand in your stance so concretely that the laws that I know that you've broken could have sent you to jail for 20 years, but they ain't harmed nobody. Say, Von, let me get some sweet love juice while I do this. And if you got caught, you wouldn't be taking that same stance. Ish, let me tell you something.

Can I tell you something? This is Joe Halftime. Come on in here. Can I tell you something, sir? I hate ice. Y'all can hate ice, but it seems like I'm the only one fucking thinking here. Personally, yes, I do know the risk. He's insulting us.

He's insulting us. I hate when niggas do that. Why I gotta get yes, I do know the risk. He's insulting us. He's insulting us. I hate when niggas do that. Why I got to get insulted? I do know the risk that I took. That's the thing. I know the risk. I know. If it bailed out on the other side, I knew the risk when I made the decision-ish.

I know. You so tough. It's not tough. That's tough. That's not tough. Okay. You win. Y'all don't even remember how this came up.

You. You. You. You saying the dude shouldn't go to jail he shouldn't go to jail Ice is bugging alright Ice is crazy

I'll be crazy by myself then y'all are crazy y'all are nuts if that guy has to go to jail then free will don't exist yes yeah no free will does exist

nobody forced him to do that he chose to you asked me to wait wait wait that's true he's right on that part what are you talking about yeah if I'm talking about that guy I'm not talking about that guy forced him to do that. He chose to... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's true. He's right on that part. What are you talking about? Yeah, I'm talking about that guy.

I'm not talking about that guy. I'm talking about the guy that wanted to end it. He could have ended it on his own. Oh. Yeah. He did it... Without using the help of someone else. He planned the thing for insurance.

No, no, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Now we're where we need to be. Why did he not Do it On his own If free will is a thing Because he wouldn't get the insurance So free will is not a thing

No he could've He still could've Ended it on his own No free will don't You're ending it To get paid Liberty Mutual That's not nothing to do

With your decision That's different I'm shutting up If you wanna just end it Go end it See Jump off the building I'm the guy That would've want to just end it, go end it. See? Jump off a building. I'm the guy that would have preferred us being in the ocean naked with the girlies eating

fruits. Y'all telling me. But the stuff that y'all saying, it don't sound like that. In this situation. That's not free will. Free will is. In this situation, this dude did not want to end it. He wanted to get his son paid.

Free will is. Difference. If he wanted to end it, he don't care what happens you end it that's not true that's not even true that's not true that's not true we've seen mad incidents of people that were tired of being here and wanted the best for their loved ones

i.e. Aaron Hernandez like we don't have to get into this people have tried to juke the loopholes in the system which adds something to your thinking process as you're saying hey do i want to be here versus what happens when i'm not here which all i'm saying is that's not really free will if i can't do what's truly in my heart without having to think about modern day construct and some shit that some nigga made up somewhere then that's what it is and

this conversation we don't have to argue about is leading me right into why i'm having a hard time watching a show called Dope Sick. Are y'all familiar with it? I saw it. I didn't watch it yet, though. Dope Sick. I saw the preview of it. I thought it was a movie.

It wasn't. It's about the Oxycontin- Epidemic. Fucking- Michael Keaton, right? Yes. Michael Keaton. It's about the Oxycontin fucking-

Crisis. Epidemic. Epidemic. The crisis that happened right so I'm watching this shit back to free will don't think that I'm leaving

our free will talk I'm still here we just podding now I watched this show and the show y'all have to see it they're on episode four now

by the time this episode drops I'ma watch so they get so they get into but it's but it's not depressing it's our lives by the time this episode drops. I'ma watch. I'll be one of those. So they get into, but it's not depressing. It's our lives. We've been alive for this.

Just like you know, Cool G Rap dropped after them. Know why you know it? We was alive. We alive for this. So we at that age now where we watching shit that we was there for and could witness it

and maybe we didn't know and we learning some shit. So Dope Sick. Purdue Pharma. Some shit was happening to where their drug, they would no longer be allowed to make, so they came up with a new drug. They came up with a new drug with this time disposal,

dispensal shit, and they had some shit where the FDA came out with a new sign that said, hey, this opioid you won't get addicted to. They were working in concert with the hospitals who were working in concert with the sales reps, and they were basically a drug cartel, and this is how America got hooked on opioids. Right?

They got sued, too. They had to pay out a shitload of money, but it wasn't nothing good. It wasn't nothing. Right? And they didn't get to that part because we're only on episode four. Gotcha.

But back to our free will conversation uh and not to get too deep but when i think of the free will conversation for me it goes into somewhere in there i get into well shit does my dad ever do crack without the crack wave i don't know i don't know i doubt it but now my version is this opioid shit because i went to the hospital because i had something wrong my thumb i didn't know what it was and they gave me oxycontin and even when they was giving it to me boy they was talking about it like it was that shit and i liked it like it was that shit it's like no you just had one two hours ago. Can't get another one so soon. Only six hours in.

I was there when they pulled out that little pain chart and was like, what level of pain are you in from one to ten? I was frequent in the hospitals then. And what happened was I got hooked on them shits. And when I left there, I had to find them shits. And when I couldn't find them shits no more i was balled up in my bed sweating couldn't function in society couldn't sit on a plane it was fucked up that's what the show is showing me and boy am i getting angry watching it i'm getting mad because then i'm forced to think well shit if i don't go to the hospital and and my mom told me to say that she

told me to tell the nurse hey don't give me oxycod and my mom told me to say that, she told me to tell the nurse, hey, don't give me Oxycontin. My mom said to say that. I believe that. Of course I believe it, because we know who my mom is. We know how she feel about drugs. So, of course, she said that. But you saying that to a kid who's being fed drugs by society and by the system, by our trusted, by the hospital,

and I like it, and I like it, and I like it. Fuck what you talking about. I'm enjoying this. Hey, the pain left, but who it, and I like it, and I like it. Fuck what you talking about. I'm enjoying this. Hey, the pain left, but woo, what a little feeling. So around episode three, they got into how this shit don't last 12 hours, like they say, how you can get addicted to it, how overdose is happening, niggas is dying, and they just kept pushing it, and they knew it, and they were looking to do this in Germany,

and now we trying to trick the system over there, and just was angry and it just goes in our free will conversation y'all should watch it if you haven't seen it so watch it so yo it was time released and so they beat some law because it was time released or something yes yes that was their trick hey vicodins fuck fuck up your liver and you normally get addicted to opioids but because of our time release system you won't less than one percent of people get become addicted to this so it's oxycodone you can't get addicted so if the fda well it's not allegedly if the fda comes out with a new label that no one's ever seen before that says hey one percent of people you're less likely to get addicted to this blah blah blah and then you go to the hospitals and they got 100 200 300 hospitals

we know our insurance work hey i'm fucked up hey send me a list of doctors i can go to bro no they know how that works doctors so when that whole system is oxy oxy oxy oxy what level of pain and you went here here here here like man it's on the hook so how do you know what's the crazy part, though? Let me ask you a question, Joe. The CEO don't go to jail. Well, that was the other big thing here. That's the crazy shit.

Like, if we ran a drug cartel, if we ran some drug shit, and this is where, again, we not going back here, but when niggas start talking that FDA shit, kiss my ass. Like, I don't want to hear that shit. Well, that was the big thing in here. That's another nigga getting paid a check to approve some shit. Get the fuck out my face the person that allegedly uh worked for the fda in the show anyway and passed this wording off scapegoat guy left the fda to work for purdue of course he did i remember of course it's a true story but even with that right, right? And as they explain in this, that's the way of corporate America.

I'm going to leave and work for the competitor to get paid six and seven X what I got paid over there. It's my same beef in music that the label heads are now working at the streamers. So, I mean, what you going to do? They just move them right on. Yep. Go ahead. You work for the government making $190. Fucking Pfizer is going to give you $1.7 billion.

I mean, $1 million a year. Like, it's crazy. You get what I'm saying? 100%. But nobody in these companies really faces any repercussions. No. None. No.

Like, the company, I think Purdue got fined like $500 million. It was something ridiculous. It was something crazy, but it ain't crazy when you made $20 billion. That's a drop in the bucket. That's enough. You want to check? Right. That's all you need?

Yeah. You get what I'm saying? So that's crazy. I don't know. I just want to know how you... What about this makes you say free will doesn't exist? Because Joe's saying... You didn't get it in what I said.

No, Joe's saying like... I can't repeat it. He's saying basically the path that you went, in his instance, they gave him some pills. Because his thumb was fucked up, right? And now he get hooked on the pills. Was that really your decision or was it not your decision? The Sackler family, Ice, I'll add to that.

The Sackler family in this show, and this is not an ad. Hulu, y'all should pay us, but I get why you don't. Y'all them niggas. The Sackler family, I think in this case it was Robert Sackler family in this show and this is not an ad Hulu y'all should pay us but I get why you don't y'all them niggas the Sackler family I think in this case it was Robert Sackler was trying to explain to his family after he had invested 40 million not him but the family's earnings he got 40 million into this oxycodone

thing that the family don't really understand they on his ass right and he's just all the way explaining all the things that they don't get so in that he said all we have to do is come up with a reason why the body needs this we have this amazing drug we have the drug we just don't have a reason that the body needs to take this so when they thought of it we have to bring the fiends to the drug instead of the drug to the fiends. Right.

So when we thought of it, they just kept piling on top of that. Like they thought of why your body needed the dose. Then they was like, well, start them at 20 milligrams. Start them at 30 milligrams. Depending on what your pain is, let's individualize the dose so we can get more. That means you might need a certain amount, but you might need a certain amount. And then they got into, yo yo we could beat the pain before the pain comes why do we have to start them on 20 30 and 40 if there's no pain we could give them 10 and they still need it so this was a listen michael keaton now that he's in this arc of his career does not miss when he does a

miniseries let me tell y'all this is not an ad but if michael keaton he does a miniseries. Let me tell y'all. This is not an ad. But if Michael Keaton is in the miniseries and it's dark and it's about bullshit, it's a smash. So check it out. It's really well done. It's really, really, really, it's a Hulu exclusive. All it should do is make me mad. Hulu exclusive. But it makes me think about the vaccine.

It makes me think about crack and what it did to my family. It just makes me think about so much shit and where it comes from, why it comes from there, and what we have to face. Like, man, the ability to just say no. Self-discipline. I got to get more. I got to get more. If you could just put it in my face and just leave the option to me and we just remove all the barriers of safety and precaution and just humanity.

And I got to rely on my brain and curiosity and me being inquisitive. And man, I'm going to be fucked up out here. But moving right along. You were saying about Broadway. I'm sorry. But no, that's why we need the constructs. For people that don't have the discipline to stop.

But when the constructs. I agree with you. We do need them. But when they're not constructs. And when they're not fair. And they're not applicable to everybody across the board. That's when I got an issue. And that's when I got with you. We do need them. But when they're not constructs. And when they're not fair and they're not applicable to everybody across the board. Yeah, man. That's when I got an issue and that's when I got a problem.

Broadway's thoughts of a colored man explores diversity, power, power of black men. You went to this. I went Saturday. Got it. It was dope because it tackled black manhood from all areas. We talk about a bunch. We typically talk about the more serious shit on Patreon,

but we jump into our bag of expressing emotion as a black man, black man parenting. And this has been a series. All of that shit. So basically what they did was every person

had their own, pardon me, spoiler alert, but every one of the dudes represented one emotion. So their name was a particular emotion. Oh, that's nice.

It was kind of dope. It was a swing. So, and they just broke it down. It was younger kids. I would have been anger. Mack Wiles was anger. Shout out to Mack Wiles.

He was anger. Mack and that fucking bro ain't money. Yeah, that money boy. And he kind of was the boss. Look, and he kind of was the star. Look at Mack, man. Mack getting that fucking bro Ain't money Yeah that money boy And he kinda was the boss Look And he kinda was the star We had to round the floor

For Mack man Mack getting that fatty And he was the star kinda Like he was the kinda the star So it was dope But um They had uh Like anger

Lust Love Passion You would've been lost No I wouldn't Who you would've been Um See

When you don't know Nah I'm about to I'm trying to think of all the emotions. Nigga, wisdom. Bitch ass nigga. That's not an emotion. The dude was wisdom. The old dude was wisdom.

Well, that's because they needed someone to represent wisdom. Me. That was you? Yeah. Got it. Cook wisdom. I ain't cook. Give us some.

Yo, I'm not. Stop painting this narrative out of me. Like I'm a whore. I said give us wisdom. Oh, you didn not, stop painting this narrative out of me. Like, I'm a whore. I said give us wisdom. Oh, you didn't like the lust name. Yeah, asshole. Oh, okay. But nah, so it was dope.

It had a new dude. He just became a father. It was just dope. It was just super, super dope. Questioning God's motives, all of that stuff. It jumped into a bunch. The audience was predominantly what? Now that I hear what this is about.

It was probably 70-30. Oh, I thought you were talking black and white. That was my next question. It was probably 70-30 black. 70-30 black. What about men, women? I don't know. Probably 50-50.

Really? I think a lot of people were there with their family. Broadway is a date spot. It's a date spot. That was my next question. Couples? Yeah, Broadway is dates. But families. Families. My man hit me. It's a date spot Well that was my next question Couples Yeah Yeah Broadway is dates But families

Families Like my man hit me He's a street nigga And he was like Yo when I posted it on my gram He was like Yo I should take it And I was like

Yo you sharp So it's not gonna do much for you But take your sons Cause it's a real conversation piece To have with your sons When it's over Like they talk about How black men

We talk about it When you can't really Show your vulnerability And you can't really You know what I'm saying Like all of that shit They show it in here And it was dope

It was well done Nice I think Candy Burris is behind it It was some really good writers That are behind it Okay So you know

They get busy Look at the range of culture That JVP provides man Come on man You see that Broadway show breakdowns Come on man We here

We here Nah We here. Nah, shout to them again. Mack Wiles and the rest of the cast. The tall kid from Terry from BMF. Yeah.

The brother. He's Da Vinci. That's his name. Yeah, Da Vinci. He's Lust. He's Lust. Da Vinci is Lust.

But nah, they did a good job. It was dope. I ain't been to show in a minute. I would do that. All right. I go often. Do you?

Yeah. What you said that is? Hey, shut the fuck up, man. What you said that is? For real, but- I do go often. You bitch ass nigga, I go to Broadway a lot. Three, four, five times a year.

This boy is cultured. Man. Yeah, man. Yo, you ignorant, yo. You are- You cultured. You are mature. I've been to one Broadway show, man. Whoa. You? Mm-hmm. Why? What'd you ignorant, yo. You are mature. I've been to one Broadway show,

man. Whoa. You? Why? What'd you saw, Cats? No, it was Chris Rock's show,

The Motherfucker in the Hat. Look what he went there for. The Motherfucker in the Hat. That was the name of the show. That was off Broadway. That wasn't on Broadway. That was off. Yeah,

that was off. It was up there, nigga. Whatever. It was in New York, nigga. Ice don't know that off Broadway is not. No, Ice don't know. That's there, nigga. Whatever. It was in New York, nigga. Ice don't know that Off-Broadway is not. No, Ice don't know.

That's not my bag. Sorry. That was cool. We gonna make it your bag. You getting that bread. All right, somebody school me on the Howard University protest. Ice. Fuck, you went to college, nigga.

Ice is that guy? I didn't know Ice was that guy, but I'll tell you. You the culture, nigga. Somebody tell me. Apparently, they're protesting their living conditions in the dorms. It's like mold, roaches, rats. Noodles. And it's been a big thing that's going on.

They've had their staging sit-ins. Yo, that's crazy. Walking out. No, that's crazy to have- All jokes aside, that's crazy. Yeah, this is nuts. If it is true, Howard with that high-ass tuition needs to be ashamed of itself. I mean, people are posting pictures.

I believe you. They're proving this. I ran around them dorms a little bit. I did. A little quiet. They used to sneak me in the little side doors and all that. Like, that's mold. Bro, this is crazy.

And their tuition ain't cheap. Yeah, no, you're paying 30 grand. 30 grand to go to school. You want to be living in some decent conditions. Like, that's crazy. But we got to get it together, Howard. So Gucci and them have- Wait, wait, wait.

Just slow down. It costs 30 grand a year to go to Howard. Hell yeah. Probably, yeah. It might be more. Hell yeah. Fuck right. Like, that shit don't be cheap.

Howard is private. Prestigious institution. Howard is private Howard is private too so the private school is going to tear your ass up it might be a little more 27 that was 19

yeah 19, 20 yo I get offended by everything I ain't going to hold you I'm a grump I'm a grump I'm a grump you mad

you mad this shit cost 30 grand cause look where they put look where they thought the benchmark was for people to not be able to reach cause look where they put the look where they thought the benchmark was for people to not be able to reach like look where the look what the prestigious benchmark

is and how it was set 30 grand and look how y'all talking about I'm just listening to y'all I have no knowledge of none of this shit but damn 30 grand a year 30 60 a buck 20 in disposable income not even disposable your kids going to college is what keeps people from their kids getting some of the best education and best access

bro that's not boy they must think no no no shout now no shout to how i'm no dis to how like you know i went to hbcu but but it's not well it's not considered the 70 grand yeah which schools tell me like the the Ivy League one of my Cornell yeah Cornell's 75 Cornell's a state school

no Cornell's Ivy I know but it has both oh look I meant Ivy 57 60

look at Columbia nigga that's 60 that's 240 look at Columbia I don't see it 61 62 grand like when you start

getting into them private schools, them shit's up. Where the hell is he seeing that? Underneath. Well, the boxes. 62 grand a year for Columbia University. Harvard is probably more.

NYU. Princeton is more. That's why people throw NYU out like that. NYU is very expensive. 53 grand a year. Bro, this shit ain't no game. And then on top of it, living in New York City, having to have a little bit of money

to go do some things. Yeah. 52 ain't the whole story. My nigga, a drink. Shit, that's just the beginning. Right. Honestly. A drink.

53 grand per kid for a year. And now the average degree is not a four year anymore. It's a five. So you damn near spending 250 on an education and that's where motherfuckers start talking

about they be getting their ass kicked by their student loans when they get out of school. Because you just spent a quarter of a million dollars on an education. If I do that, you better guarantee me a job when I'm done. Like a good one. Like the real one. No, but then you start majoring in some bullshit and you come home and you be the manager at fucking Radio Shack. Yep. bullshit and you coming home and you be the manager at fucking Radio Shack. Yeah, you gotta pardon

me for not being the biggest fan of college. I got a family member. None of it makes sense to me. I went to a state school. I paid $1,500 a semester to go there and got a good education. That was a long time ago. State schools are still,

if you live within state. They're relatively cheaper, but you can go to Montclair State in New Jersey you can go to William Patterson in New Jersey you still spending some bread

no doubt especially if you want to live I didn't live on campus well my thing is nobody asked to see Park's little diploma no that's true but he got a degree

but he has a profession that what are you showing yeah but he didn't I get what you're saying Kareem never asked you about none of that shit. All these fucking million dollar eight figure jobs

that I be offered, nobody has ever asked me about my schooling. None of them. They don't understand that. No, you're right. My thing is they don't even talk like that'd be an option growing up

they don't talk like that even I know why though I know why I would love to know why cause it was pushed to us you don't talk about

Parks' and Joe's careers being options they're so few and far between so you know how many people wanna be a rapper you know how many people wanna be a ball I'm You know how many people want to be a ball player? I'm not even talking about... Okay, no, I don't want to let you finish.

I'm not talking about that. I'm just saying they make it seem like there is no other way except getting on this path. They do. That's true. I graduated... Me, me. They selling college.

I graduated high school. I didn't even have the summer off. I graduated June 18th and started school July 1st. ELF? No. college they selling i graduated high school i didn't even have the summer off i graduated june 18th and started school july 1st eof no but um because they do the eof program that summer but i there was no other there was no plan b my hold on hold on real quick i got i got a family member who we had these talks and he's like bro listen i don, I don't, I'm scared. I don't want to go to college. I said, well, why not? Because I don't know exactly what I want to go for.

And I said, he said, the biggest thing that keeps happening. I got friends that's going to college. All they're coming out with is student loans. And then they in the job that's not in that field. Cause you got to take a job, but it's not in where you got your degree. But as soon as you come out, you got to start paying that back. got to take a job. But it's not in where you got your degree. But as soon as you come out, you got to start paying that back because you come out with debt up the ass.

So his fear ain't even really college. It's just what happens when I get out. I'm doing this for what? And I don't even know. I pick a major right now. I don't know what the future holds. Yeah, I pick a major right now. It might not be what I do.

It's an unfair decision, and it got a whole bunch of moving parts. As a 17, 18-year-old kid, you don't even see the world. Yeah. You don't know shit. You don't know shit about shit.

You basically like, oh, I want to major in psychology. Uh-huh. I want to major in physical therapy. Like, you literally picking out of a hat. So when I was going to school, I was real good in math, so they made me be an engineering major. Uh physical therapy. Like, you literally picking out of a hat. Exactly. So when I was going to school, I was real good in math, so they made me be an engineering major.

Like, everybody. Yo, you got to be an engineering major. I'm like, all right, cool, engineering, fuck it. And I was kind of cocky, so everybody can't be an engineering major. Fuck it, right? So that's what I, but I didn't want to do that. So the end of my junior year, which nobody does, I changed my major to finance.

Nobody does that. But again, you're a kid. You don't know. And then a lot of us, all of us, I'm sure, your parents never been to school. And this is where one of the parts. So your parents just be happy you getting a college degree. They don't necessarily know if you majoring in physical education that you ain't going to make no money. They don't know that. They just happy. They bragging, my my baby in college he got a degree go go go i did a job for um a

wealthy white family and their son went to uh florida international and he wanted to major in psychology they wouldn't pay they wouldn't pay for him to go to school right they made him major in computer science or something science tech based or they wouldn't pay because they knew because they were both college educated and they had reached a certain level that we're not doing that because your chances of making money are slim to none you're gonna come out and make 45 grand and not be able to pay back the student loans we're not wasting our money on that well they were paying for them but we're not wasting our money on that you gotta major in were paying for them, but we're not wasting our money on that. You got to major in something STEM related.

And so those are the conversations that parents got to have with their kids. But a lot of our parents necessarily weren't college educated, so they didn't know. That's where this generation right here, that's where the you and the Trey. And then Trey's kid. You get what I'm saying? Like all of that shit comes into play. I agree. But now this shit is a racket bro

they'll let you change majors five times yeah they want you to change majors five times I go to my grandmother she has it's four of us you know Ray my cousin like it's four she has four grandsons all she ever said was damn I wish one of my boys would graduate college like we all went ours went I went everybody went no one graduated so all she she don't care what it was for don't waste the money and that arse went to college and battle rap see what i mean about college but you know what happened more money than and make more money than most of them and you know what happened he fell into battle rap what a trip with them from the niggas from college went to 106 and park and got pulled on because the challenger didn't show

that day look at god and they needed somebody to rap they're like yo he rap but anyway um what was i saying um oh yeah so she all she wanted was one of her grandkids to graduate that's how we was pushed yo soon as you get out as soon as you graduate high school you have to go to college fuck what you're going for but you know where it comes from that's what they were told yes the past the dream that freedom and success was right to success kids and also back in black kids especially also in our parents age i think college might have been a different it might have meant something different it was less expensive you were more likely to get a career coming out of it there

you go and so but again as black people or so you're talking to think yeah yeah we were so we were taught like yo the way that we can break the barriers placed upon us is education right education is college because that industrial shit of taking care of your family with a blue collar job that got wiped out in the late 70s so now it's college you got to push college you got to push college because that's the only way you can feed your family I disagree with that No I'm saying that ideology

I'm in construction My electricians And my plumbers that I know Talk about it Make way more money They make more money Than doctors and lawyers My garbage guy

That does my demos and cleanups That nigga make like $400,000 a year Doing fucking garbage This is what I told You be missing any in the trash You need somebody else Does my demos and cleanups. That nigga make like $400,000 a year doing fucking garbage. This is what I told. You be missing any of the trash? You need somebody else.

I'll come over there and pick up some $700,000. I don't wish. No bullshit. This is what I told that same family member. I said, bro, listen, if you don't know what you want to go to college for, don't go. Don't go. Wait. But life is still happening, so don't wait. No, I'm saying wait to go back.

You can go back. You could go back. Pick up a trade. Yeah. That's my advice always. Pick up a trade. Or if you want to, if you're dead set on doing community college, that's what I do

because I know what I want to do. You could go to school, get an associate. Yeah. But at least you got you a start. When you go to get you a certificate from a trade school, that you can use

no matter what. HVAC niggas make money. HVAC. Electricians make money. Plumbers make money. That's why as soon as you say electricians and plumbers, that's what I'm like,

man, go to trade school. Fuck that. I'm not shitting on college. It's not. But if that's not for you, and it's okay. It's not glorified. We were never told

that it was okay. I'm just trying to get us out of here. Oh, nice. Oh, my bad. But we were never told. We unpacking, boy. We were never told that it was okay. I'm just trying to get us out of here. Oh, my bad. But we were never told. We unpacking more. We were never told that it was okay to not go to college. That was my whole beef. Okay, to not.

To not, yeah. We were never told that. They never told me that. But it was either you go to college or you are a failure in life. It's learned behavior, though. Yeah. It's learned behavior. You just passed it down.

My bad. You kind of stuck on that for a minute. And we are done. That was fun. You know they're going to tear your ass up. Me? Mm-hmm. They are.

You know it. Let them. They tear me up for trying to keep pace with the show. I know. They do. They do. Yo, Joe, why the fuck you ain't stopping?

That conversation was amazing. Yo, that's what we need. Blah, blah, blah. I know. I know. I know. It's fine. Suck my dick.

Yes. That's why I keep telling you. Look at that. Whoever needs to suck it. Yo, come's what we need. Blah, blah, blah. I know. I know. I know. It's fine. Suck my dick. Yes. That's why I keep telling you. Look at that. Whoever needs to suck it. Yo, come on, man. Stop telling me. I'm with you. No, I'm with you 100%.

Suck your penis, bro. Tell my baby, too. Year one with the head and year three. Yo. What? Let's try to get back where we was. Y'all never said nothing like that? No.

For why? Hey, yo. All right. Forget it. The head's still fire. y'all never said nothing like that no for wine the head's still fire I ain't get no slack off you you dip oh this nigga is a nut case

yo something wrong with you bro oh that was the filtered version of what I wanted no no no I don't even want you yeah yeah no we go with the filtered version of what I wanted. No, no, no, no. I don't even want you.

Yeah, yeah, no. We go with the filtered version. Yeah, but I'm like, man. Let me find Nola Ledge. Let me find Nola Ledge. Let me find Nola Ledge. Yo, you stupid. I'm going to help the girls out today, goddammit.

Look at this shit. Goddammit. Figured it out, ladies. I'm here to tell you. This is straight from the barbershop. I done the research. Sip the juice. Advanced analytics on this one. They don't know what takes place. No, no, no. I'm going to tell you. This is straight from the barbershop. I done the research. Sip the juice. Advanced analytics on this one. They don't know it takes place in the town.

No, no, no, I'ma tell them. I'ma tell them. I'ma tell them. It's the truth. I go to Queens from Queens to get the food from Probe. Make money in Manhattan, they never been tooken. Go uptown to the Bronx and boogie down with Strong on the aisle and the coupe will lay around.

Ladies, ladies, ladies. I'm going to get canceled again. Oh, man. You know who I think our girlfriend is a lot of the times? Her best dick sucker. Is your best girlfriend? Or is your girlfriend? So the one that's the best dick sucker is your girl best girlfriend? Or is your girlfriend? So the one that's the best dick sucker is your girl.

That's boo-boo? That's boo-boo? Y'all know that. Y'all know that stink stink. That's boo-boo. That stink stink. Y'all know that stink stink. Oh, man.

Y'all know it's true. Y'all know it's true. I should have altered my voice when I said it. So they didn't know I said it. Y'all know that shit is true, man. Y'all know it's true. Y'all know it's true. I should have altered my voice when I said it so they didn't know I said it. Y'all know that shit is true, man. All right. That's what you was going to say. Okay, bro. I'm definitely not letting you pull me. Because I keep seeing that question online or I just keep hearing niggas saying,

Hey, when you in a relationship, what do you do with your best dick sucker? And I'm like, first of all, why you calling her that? Have some class. Have some class, you loser. Call her stink stink instead? Well, not dick sucker. That's disgusting. You should be arrested.

But, yeah, that's your girl, nigga. That's your girl. You didn't stay with your girl over the best dick sucker. No, you didn't. Who did that? What man did that? Tell the best dick sucker. No, you didn't. Who did that? What man did that? Tell the truth. Nobody.

Niggas did it before. I'm going to take your word for it. I'm kidding. Niggas don't want to incriminate themselves. Alright, moving right along. Summer Walker, some hard drive shit. More marketing shit that I don't pay any mind to so I'll toss it over to our marketing

extraordinaire. And our hard drive expert. And our hardest driver. Ice, what do you think about this? Look at Duke. Go ahead, man. She wasn't going to break nothing. No, it's not designed for you to break anyway.

Summer Walker put a box with a hard drive in it in the city for you to break anyway but um summer walker put a box with a hard drive in it in the city for a couple hours and said if you want to hear the album prior to release you have to break the box summer walker called all y'all idiots actually not summer walker but somebody just called y'all idiots and we'd be excited to be called idiot made everybody do an escape room you had to find the escape room and then did anybody get it open hey come break the thingamajiggy and then watch me sell 250,000 records

in your face who gonna break it open with the romper wow I sold 250,000 records all from them trying to break the little stupid thing

they couldn't break and you can't even pull back somebody I did see one video a dude was hitting it with an upswing right at the top corner

And the top did pop up A little bit So I don't know They cut that video quick too You ain't see nothing else After that So I don't know If he got in there or not

You know what else cut fast We don't never tell the truth On this fucking pod That hot girl summer shit Ended fast too Paying the Joe I don't want no smoke I don't understand

Smoke with what? Elaborate Elaborate with what elaborate elaborate with what i said what i said summer was over in three months nigga all right how long did hot girl summer last ty dolla couldn't say that hot girl summer so you know she gotta hit hot girl summer so you know she gotta and she a big star girl so you know she gotta hit hot girl some of the girls tried to do that it didn't work the grandma

might have had a difference of opinion oh please bitches is in Meconos bitches shake their ass to Elton John no but they was in

Meconos in Spain and Mallorca to a Jesse Jackson speech some girls had a hot girl some no no I'm just talking about the song you're talking about the song I'm only talking about the song

I'm not talking about the phrase they had a hug or something Oh yeah okay We follow him No we follow him Yo why you always Gotta put me with you I follow him though

You don't I'm just saying You know it's funny I like that I like that Oh yo you a rat You a low key rat He'll be owning it

So I like that he did that I have to I have to I have to not own our friendship. Just from how Ish talked, I could tell he home telling his girl that him and I aren't really alike. That's not true. We are not alike in some shit, though. No, we mad alike. No, we not. A lot alike, though.

Cuckoo. Mad alike, though. Yo, you cuckoo. Nah, but in some areas. We are alike. Hey, Ish girl. Which camera she look at? Which camera Ish girl look at cool? Nah, but in some areas, it's girl. Which camera she look at? Which camera each girl look at?

Yo, man, I like it in some areas. I'm trying to tell you. It's so stupid. Girl. All right, where we at? Where we at? Where we at? Oh, Summer Walker.

Look at this doofus, man. I'm done with this shit. Y'all report this shit. I don't even want to. Because I'm a potter. I got to talk about a nigga trying to break a pink hard drive shit in the middle of the street. I'm done.

Look at Shorty. Go ahead. Nah. What happened? They broke it or not? That's what I thought. November 5th. Did anybody get in?

November 5th. November 5th is happening. I can wait. Same. I can wait, too. I'm going to wait. I want to hear it. Sean Garrett called me after our review of her first single.

Had a nice long talk with him. He said, Joe, shut the fuck up you're stupid you don't know shit that you're talking about don't critique shit singles a hit you're wrong everybody who's critiquing is going to be wrong it's going to work globally not in your little neighborhood i've been hearing it too he said uh that's right listen we're doing something different on the single because it's a business and she is a global star he said anything that you fans want to hear is there and we'll get to you guys later but now it's about expanding and the song's gonna work and you shut the fuck up because you don't know shit i have the most

number ones in r&b history i'm sean garrett you may pump it up that's the end now of course he didn't say that of course he didn't say that because that's my man and sean's gracious he didn't say nothing i'm joking but he said yo the song's gonna work we're trying something different with the single whatever you're looking for as a fan is on the album and you don't have to worry because i'm all over the album and if you can't trust me who can you trust in r&b and what i said to him was fair enough you're absolutely right you're absolutely right you got it to hear it. You got it. Nothing for me to say. Wait.

Before you called we believed that. We said it. And now that you called we believe it more and we'll just wait to see. We'll just wait to see. So shout out to Sean Garrett.

Shout out to Summer. Shout out to Justice of course. We love that whole crew and hopefully you deliver a classic. And that song is better. But you still should have sped that fucking song up nigga. Nah that song is catching

some traction. I see a lot of other Talk about that song too though They heard the talk Some of them Some of them Responded and said I don't like it

She said you know Justice This is on you Justice This is your pick This is the business Get into your shit Listen fans If you don't know

The first single's the business Absolutely And if it works well enough The second single's the business. Absolutely. And if it works well enough, the second single's the business. Right. Yo, fuck all that. Someone walk or talk. Damn. Colin Powell passed away.

I won't hit round of applause right now. We started talking about black men and all of that. We really got to take our hat off to Colin Powell. Yes? 100%. Oh, okay. 100%, of course we do he was the first black to do it do it outside of vice president or president he held damn near the highest offices that there are and came up in a time where

the shit we talking about was unheard of so he definitely gets full applause. Gunshots. No pun intended because he's a military guy. He put enough gunshots in the world. Yeah. But that too. You got to give him a couple gunshots. Yeah, it's Coleman Powell. Yeah, you got to give him a couple. Rest in peace, Coleman Powell.

First black U.S. Secretary of State whose leadership in several Republican administrations helped shape American foreign policy in the last years of the 20th century. The end. Say nothing else after that. The end. 84 years old. Highly decorated life. 84.

Allegedly passed of COVID complications. Anytime I read that, I don't believe it. So I'll just shut up. I don't believe it either. Oh, see, I didn't see that part. No, yeah. Multiple myeloma. Oh, I missed that point. God, I got it. I got it. I got it. Because he was fully vaccinated. They don't normally it either Oh see I didn't see that part No yeah multiple myeloma Oh I missed that point God I gotta

Cause he was fully vaccinated They don't normally tell you all this Alright yeah Cancer plasma cells That suppresses the body's Immune response As well as Parkinson's What a life man

What a life What a life What a life What a life What a man Rest in peace Rest in peace to Coleman Powell I wish

Ish would give me more time. No, I didn't do that. I'm trying to type outstanding. Yeah, outstanding shit. Yeah. You got to find another jolly song. Yeah. Especially the young niggas don't know that.

You made them know it. They know it now. They know it now. They was mad as hell when we started playing Love on Top. That's a fact. No, they was mad. It was a pill. Really? Yes. Yeah, they hated it. They was mad. They hated it. playing Love on Top. That's a fact. No, they was mad. It was a feel-good. Really?

Yes. Yeah, they hated it. They was mad. They hated it. Oh, I ain't know that. It was like when 50 changed the power theme song to the Trey Songz. It was like that. They tore 50 ass up for that Trey Songz.

They tore our ass up. Pause. Girl, you're looking sweet, don't lie You're quite a baby I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I feel alive with the power You throw my mind I'm so excited I'm so excited So excited Girl, you rock me up

I'm so excited Girl, you rock me up Yeah, I mean, you in a crib with your significant other Go ahead and gaze at it in the eyes Let her know you love her You wouldn't rather be Noel Hey Makes me wanna jump All righty Then We will get to Ben Simmons

Ben Simmons I Ben Simmons. Oh, he's taking it away again. Slow down, because I'm taking a break. But Ben Simmons. Do we got to? Yeah, do we? We do. I mean, I thought it was important.

It is. If you guys don't. Y'all don't think that's important? It's for the culture. That's all right. All right, we'll get there in a second. And that's been a second. All right.

The process. Ben Simmons, Doc Rivers, Joel Embiid. Philadelphia 76ers. Don't toss this over to our 76ers expert, Ice Stallone. Ice. Yes, Joe. What? What? Ice.

Yes, Joe. What? What? Ben Simmons went to 76ers practice after long negotiations and lack of communication. He practiced. He had his cell phone in his pocket. Blogs tore him up. The whole team, including the coach and the organization, saw that on their phones.

They went back to practice the next day. Ben Simmons was disengaged. Doc Rivers threw him out of practice. And here we are. Joel Embiid is on social media saying he doesn't give a fuck about Ben Simmons. And he has to focus on the people that are in the locker room. That's right. I'm asking you as a 76er fan how you feel about the current situation. What you think they should do,

and who you think has the advantage and the leverage here as I turn down Michael Jackson. Oh, man. I agree, first off, with Joel Embiid a thousand percent. Like, we showing up to work. We want to win. I can't focus on this. This dude's a distraction at this point. That's all it is. You don't want to win i can't focus on this dude's a distraction at this point that's all it is you don't want to be here you're here because you don't want to lose no money or whatever the case

may be we are here to work the lack of professionalism just like you could tell and b don't even want to talk about this shit right now like the season's about to start and this is what i got to deal with so yeah suspect throw him out of practice suspend him for the home the first game but i want him to stay in philly i want him to face the philly crowd and i'm not mad at them requesting the world for him because when he want to play he is still a great player so I don't want to let him go for cheap and I think the advantage right now is going to the Sixers because all Ben Simmons is doing is hurting his value even more Now you're showing that you're unwilling to play with a team

All the things that the other teams are gonna look at like what happens if you're not happy here? I got to deal with that. So in the end, I think he's going to hurt himself. But yeah, I do want to see Ben Simmons face the Philly crowd. I want him at that home opener against Brooklyn on Friday. I damn near was going to try to go to the game just to get my shit off in person. What you was going to do? Boo the fuck out of him like everybody else. What you thought I was going to do? I want to get these shit off in person. What you was going to do? Boo the fuck out of him like everybody else. What you thought I was going to do?

I want to get these boos off. Who do you think, as we get into our worst take segment of the show, who do you think has the leverage and the advantage in this situation and why? I think the Sixers do. At first I thought Ben Simmons had it, but him showing up and showing up like this, I think is pushing, is giving them more leverage.

Because you're going to be the one that gets suspended. You're going to be the one to miss out all this money. You're crashing. If you want to be outside of Philadelphia, you want to be traded, make yourself where you can be traded. I'm not even saying super valuable. Just all you're doing is, if I'm another team looking at you right now, I'm not bringing you here. Because what if you don't want to be here?

I got to deal with this headache? Well, not only that, we're not bringing you here because the 76ers are asking for an entire universe. I'm going past that part. I'm going past that, though. If I'm a GM and I got a package that the Sixers are willing to accept,

looking at the way you're acting now when you don't want to be there after they just maxed you. I don't want to take that risk. You're too risky. I don't want to be that guy. It's still a business. Somewhere in this talk, it leads to our earlier conversation about grooming a generation without consequences. Consequences. I was going to say that.

It does definitely go back there. Right. Yep. It goes back there because he got a guaranteed contract. Mm-hmm. And for the listeners- He just got maxed out.

There we go. I just want to point that out. He just got maxed out. This is the first, second year of a contract extension of Supermax. He was the first pick. So the Supermax is about a buck 80.

It's something stupid 220 whatever it is yeah roughly 200 million it's a lot of money it's a lot of money he's getting almost 40 million a year so a lot of money in that ballpark um i think he still has the leverage i think he's 25 years old and he's a potential superstar where you think he has the leverage and against the sixers right now currently because Because he still, they got to pay him. They're not going to suspend him for the season if he comes to work. He got suspended for one game. They got to pay him.

I still think that another team would definitely. But they want to pay him. They want to pay him. I know. So why you feel like that? They want to pay him. They're happy to pay him. If he don't want to play, right? If he don't want to play, he got to get paid.

He could come in and fake the ankle injury or any of that dumb shit and i think another team would still definitely take the risk on him they've had mad offers philly don't want to trade them correct they want to get a fucking the house they feel like they have leverage he's in the first second year of a contract extension he's 25 he's not in the last year of it you want to get get paid for the next four years, you have to come to work. And if you come to work disengaged like you did at the practice, we'll suspend you without the pay. Yeah. But we have the – you don't know what.

They can't do it. Long term, they can't suspend them long term without pay. That's the beauty of the U.S. for them. You miss enough of them checks per game. I think they can. I just don't think they want to. They want him to play. They're trying to win a chip.

At the end of the day – They want him to be engaged. When he plays, he's the best. Yeah, he's one of the best. He's good. So,

if you're not going to play and you're not going to be engaged and you're going to be a distraction to the team, then we don't have to pay you and I think that hurts you more than it hurts us. I don't know.

I still think that he ain't missing no checks. You get what I'm saying? Like, what you getting from him? Then why is he at practice? I was just getting ready to think that he ain't missing no checks. You get what I'm saying? What you getting from him? Then why is he at practice? I was just getting ready to say that he is missing checks. I think he's at practice to save face for the public ridicule. You would practice, dude.

Wait, wait, wait. Time out. Time out. Let me throw some shit in the mix. What Ben Simmons' sneaker look like? I don't know because I don't think he has one. He don't have one. He don't have to have a personal sneaker to be getting money from him. What does Ben Simmons' State Farm commercial look like? He don't know because I don't think he has one. He don't have one. He don't have to have a personal sneaker to be getting money

from him. What does Ben Simmons State Farm commercial look like? He don't. What are any of his advertisements or off the court,

what does his off the court money look like outside of your super rich girlfriend, your super wealthy girlfriend? I'm going to answer you. Go ahead.

Ben Simmons is a star. He's not a superstar. He's a star. So I'm sure he's getting, his salary and endorsements are nice. He might not have a He's a star So I'm sure He's getting His salary and endorsements Are nice He might not have a shoe

Just because you don't have Your own See that don't answer me I'm about to answer I'm gonna answer you Hey but while While he's talking Alex try to find

The answer to that He pulled it up Oh got it Yo because you don't have Your own signature shoe I don't mean you're not Getting a nice contract From Nike or one of them

Alex I'm looking for His endorsement money He made 35 million dollars Last year I'm'm looking for his endorsement money. He made $35 million last year. I'm only looking for the separation between his on-court money and off-court money. So he just added up. Because when Kyrie says, yo, I'm not taking the vaccine and y'all can trade me, I won't play. I know for a fact there's endorsement money to carry him through. If I only have $ 20 million to live with.

20 million to do with Nike his rookie season. That's enough to live off. Rookie deal. So he's getting more now. He signed 20 million that's a rookie deal. He has bonus incentives

that could boost that Nike contract to 40 million. We don't know but that's We know that if you're not playing then you're not hitting incentives. Correct.

But we know for one year last year plus his Nike deal he has enough money to live off. For us in this context of our argument

that's enough to live off. 50 million? The end. Yeah. Now when I have to bring in his mind state do I think he feels that way and do you think he feels that way?

No, I don't think he feels that way. And that's the unfortunate part. Because if he felt that way he could take the Kyrie stance and say you know what 10 million a year I get it done that's enough for me. Because if he felt that way, he could take the Kyrie stance and say, you know what, $10 million a year, I get it done, that's enough for me. But I don't think he does, which is why he's at that Sixer practice. And because I don't think he does,

that's why the Sixers have the leverage in this conversation. And Doc is Doc, as I said in the card. Doc won a ring. Doc has enough cachet, enough reverence for you to lose this. And I think they need that. I think coaches, they need that, especially when you're dealing with stars with egos. With Fortnite egos.

You need to have a respected coach, i.e. Pop, i.e. Doc Rivers. It ain't that many. It's about five coaches in the NBA that you need to be able to powwow with the stars and their egos. And Doc is one of them. Yeah. So I kicked him out of practice. And, nigga, you're not going to get me fired. Right.

You're not going to get me fired. You know what I'm saying? And you have the support of Joel Embiid, who is the bona fide superstar and the man on the team. Right. Saying, agreeing with the coach. So, I don't know. I think it's unfortunate. I just think the leverage is all with the Sixers at this point.

And I think it's all Ben Simmons doing it to himself. He basically gave the leverage back to the Sixers. Because I think he held the leverage at one point. But now it's... Because what you said is, in terms of leverage, what do they both want? The Sixers want... They don't want to trade him.

They want him to show up and play. That's what they want. He wants to get traded out of Philadelphia. So in terms of the leverage conversation, who's closer to getting what they want? It would be the Sixers. They have the upper hand in this. You want to get traded out, but you're not doing anything to help yourself get traded out.

You don't have to. You're doing it to hurt yourself. You don't have to. You don't have to do anything to help, but don't do nothing to hurt. You don't have to because, again, in basketball more than football, you get picked up off of potential. His potential is limitless. He has limitless potential. So, in my opinion, he has the leverage.

I'm going to get a jump shot first. His limits. Go ahead. Potential, though. Potentially, he's limitless. He's a 6'11 point guard. Right? That can pass, handle the ball.

He's a hell of a defender. He has the leverage. And you still owe me mad bread. So I could come to practice if I want. I mean, I could come to play

if I want. Get the ankle injury that really ain't an ankle injury. Now y'all gotta pay me. Get my $35 million. Now y'all gotta pay me. And I think

they would rather do that than just trade you away. Which means he has the leverage. For what he wants? He's still not getting what he want, though. Nobody's getting what they want in that case. Cool.

Let's see how them plays. I don't feel like he has leverage, but we'll see. I don't think he has leverage. I think he fucked himself up. Nine year one and two of the extension, but we'll see. I don't know. And I don't think the 76ers feel like he has the leverage because they suspended him his second day at practice

in front of the team. So he only got suspended for one day. One game. The opening game. Do that when the season is on. Actually, tonight is the start of NBA season. The Knicks have the Celtics tonight. I should be at that game, hopefully.

But outside of that, do that now and watch what the suspension is. Well, no, his suspension is for the first season game. Yeah, I understand that. What I'm saying is, when we suspend you in the preseason, we know what the end-season suspension looks like. No, it's one game first.

Right. Come on, come play. Come play with us. It's one game now. Be diseng on, come play. Come play with us. It's one game now. Be disengaged two weeks from now. Watch it be 10 games when money is on the line now. Preseason don't mean nothing. But 10 games next time, your little young ass will miss it.

And your super wealthy girlfriend is going to look at you a different way when you go from fucking $500,000 a week to $50,000. We'll see. And until then. It's unfortunate, though, because these niggas is kids. Teach them consequences of their actions, baby. I'm cutting this off because I ain't even playing with Mike like that. I ain't playing with Mike.

Yeah, you can't play. Mike did this. You know what? Buy the Joe Budden podcast. I don't even playing with Mike like that. I ain't playing with Mike. Yeah, you can't play. Micah did this. You know what? Buy the Joe Budden podcast. I don't like that they played my songs. What else do we got? Kanye's haircut. Do we need a deep dive on that?

No. Do we? He changed his name. We don't need a deep dive on it. He changed his name to Ye. And then the stupid haircut came out. And my fucking weird creative ass 100% saw yay on the back of his head, surrounded by design. I thought that was cool.

I thought it was different. I thought it was weird. You see a yay? No, there's a yay right there. Pull it back up. Pull it back up, the big pic. I went through this yesterday on Clubhouse. On the cliff of his head, you see a Y, right? On the left-hand side, you see that Y? Nigga, I must be.

Do y'all not see the Y on the cliff? This cliff right here. Y'all don't see that Y going that way? Yeah. Now, faded is the top of the E. The top of the E. And the rest of that is indeed an E. It's just artsy, and that says yay

right in the back cliff of his head. I don't see it. The rest of that appears to be a design screen man point the Y out surrounding the yay

that's the Y that's the Y and the E that top right there is the Y to the right of it is the E faded there in bold is the second

and the bottom line oh see I thought it was the Y and then the long part of the Y made the like the Y and the E are joined together it is yeah

that's what I'm saying okay so once I saw that I was like oh man this guy's genius again Part of the why made the, like the why and the enjoy together. It is. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. So once I saw that, I was like, oh man, this guy's genius again. He does it again. Yeah, it could be stupid. But along with the name change, along with all of his Walt Disney and Steve Jobs comparisons, this is in loop, right in line with all of that.

So shout out to Kanye for getting what he wanted. So you know what I think? Now that we brought This dumb ass haircut up I think Kanye Just be trolling niggas Like yo I bet you I could just do this

And they're gonna find Ye in here somewhere That shit don't say ye at all And he rich enough To have had a better barber That could've Put a pronounced Y and E out

That's why it's art His son did it Fuck out of here But it does say ye And he did Change his name to ye And we've known it We know say yay. And he did change his name to yay. And we know that he always wanted to change his name to yay. And he did that all at the same time.

And he said yay is the word most seen in the Bible is yay. That is true. So it could be. Well, it's true that he said that. So yeah, it could be trolling. But trolling is the word that you throw out there when you just don't understand the science behind why somebody's doing

what they're doing. Shout out to Kanye. Good luck to him. Still one of the albums of the year for me. Same, same. I sat down this weekend and tried to put my

albums of the year list together so far. Couldn't, right? I ran out. I was reaching. I was reaching after a couple like last last year i did 20 right so i said i wrote down one through 20 and then i said you know let me see if i could fill in so far i know some shit is coming you know but i just let me

see how much i could fill in now boy was it rough i was just saying that last week. It's been a weird year for music. I mean, there's some shit that's guaranteed on there, but I was just like, all right. That's it? Mm-hmm. That's tough. Yeah. I don't have nothing, man.

Y'all good? We good? You good? I'm good. You good? Give me a sleeper, man. Tone stiff. Featuring Chris Brown.

I had this record in my phone for a little while. I was wondering when he was going to drop it. Tone stiff dropped an EP. This song is on it. Shout out to him. Shout out to Chris. Let's let it go. Let's let it go.

Let's let it go. Let's let it go. Let's let it go. Let's let it go. Let's let it go. Let's let it go. Let's let it go. Let's let it go.

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Let's let it go. Let's let it go. Let's let it go. Let's let it go. Let's let it go. Let's let it go. Let's let it go. Let's let it go.

Let's let it go. Let's How did we get this way? Ever since I got famous, nothing was the same for us I know we got problems and I haven't been as honest But I don't ever bring up all the things you did in college, oh Big old crib and nobody to share with Got good news and nobody to tell it I can't lie, close my eyes, grab myself to sleep at night Do I ever cross your mind? Do you ever come across me on your timeline?

You just made a grown man cry Tears keep rollin' down my eyes Hey, talk to these niggas, though! Cause you're mine You just made a girl make cry You just made a girl make cry Tears keep falling down my Oh, let's go

Pick up the phone and call me I'm all alone and sorry Tell me, do you think of the good times? Or is it just the bad ones only? I know I said this a few pods ago. I really hope that Chris Brown never heals. It's selfish. But when he don't heal,

oh, it's greatness. Wait a minute! Do you even think about him? Do you even think about all the shit we did? Are you supposed to be here with me? Having a celebration Everything I did, it was for you Got a nigga trippin' cause you kissin' on a dude I feel like we ain't goin' back

Ain't nobody to say we're Thoughts in my head Ain't nobody to see me Thoughts in my head Ain't nobody to tell my secrets I'm feeling like I've lost my head, lost my mind I can't lie, I close my eyes And grind myself to sleep but now Yeah, yeah You know I'm

Lost my mind Do you ever come across me on YouTube? You just made Do you ever come across me on your time? You just made a roommate cry This kid, down my heart Hey, let's go, Tone Cause you're mine That's brand new music from Tone Stiff

It's called Do I Ever featuring Chris Brown That nigga Tone is a vibe man Shout out to him, friend of the show Glad this record is finally out in my phone Friend of the show, Tone Stith. Shout out to Chris Brown. Y'all know how we feel about him. That's called Do I Ever.

All right. You know, anything with Chris Brown is definitely a go for me. But, um. Emma Ryland. You good? Wild Paladin. You good? Wild Paladin.

Go ahead. I'm just asking what you good I thought I said that in my head Nah nah nah That was out loud That was out loud Yeah damn crazy ain't it My bad Alright

So I know y'all can't see But I got this sweatshirt on That says Stack Bundles For a reason Stack's birthday Is Thursday And this is stacked over

Is Absolutely recipe stack bundles, so my sleeper is look nigga you food stack bundles I run around with niggas that niggas knew this man Get your motherfuckin' head popped open I ran from niggas that worried about the long arm of the law That worried about the long arm of the board Cause I can sentiment your broad day in the park with your balls I have niggas run up on you with toes But do you have any idea how many dogs on feed So many fuckin' reds on the floor

I'm a dog on the floor I'm a dog on the floor I'm a a ball Cause I can sentiment your broad day In the park with your balls I have niggas run up on you with toes Now do you have any idea How many dogs I'm feeding So many fucking red flags That look like I'm bleeding But the right is the gang I'm leading That you motherfuckers best believe in

I'm flag great But I'm cool with them balls in blue You thinking coppers I'm talking about crips with choppers Revolvers burn like propellers or helicopters Tell your OG's roll back, I got this You don't wanna piss me off I got some folks in Milwaukee to stab you with pitchforks

Niggas better pray to the Lord Or make a call to the shot, you be at war with the Lord Look, nigga, you fool You don't let them niggas gas, you fool Now you run around actin' fool Look, nigga, you fool Run around here thinkin' about How them blue flags drinkin' your milk Look, nigga, you fool You don't let a fool Look nigga you fool Run around here thinking you built Adam blue flags drinking your milk

Look nigga you fool You done let them bitches gas you fool Now you run around acting a fool Look nigga you fool Make a phone call to my dudes Adam thigh moves eating your food Look nigga you fool Some niggas built for the sidewalk You can fuck around and get your whole good side chalk Cause all it takes is a tenth of a second I had an F pointed in your direction Look nigga I check and get your whole good side, y'all Cause all it takes is a tenth of a second I had an F pointed in your direction Look, nigga, I check and get out of line

And I get out of nine, nigga Talkin' that stupid shit and get it blowed your mind, nigga Come to business, I'm healin' my nigga I ain't deaf, dumb, stupid, or blind, nigga It's all math that we all strapped out Blocked new spot, all tour, capped out This ain't an illusion, I'm literally movin' So much, you kidding me?

Niggas will think I was Cuban If you know me, where the fuck have you been? The AFAC crazy motherfucker I'm losin' And you so icy, playin' with my luchi, man Won't go out like Gucci Look now, nigga, you fool You don't let them niggas gas, you fool Now you run around actin' fool

Look, nigga, you fool Run around here thinkin' you built I had them blue flags drinkin' your Look up, nigga, you fool Run around here thinking you built Out of blue flags drinking your milk Look up, nigga, you fool You let them bitches gas you, fool Now you run around acting a fool Look up, nigga, you fool Make a phone call to my dudes

Out of five moves, eating your food Look up, nigga, you fool Those niggas don't respect money and violence Bad boys move in silence So I can write a scribe, get the press in Get a nigga headspan for it It won't cost me a red cent Thirty-five pounds will take you a long way Why you think the rice parled is stronger than it is today?

My niggas fresh from the yard Been gone so long they don't know how to use metro cars My young niggas is worse, they got stripes to earn Playing tax with the system and it's Rikers time And they don't give a fuck about makin' a block Hot mama gon' keep em right, don't matter if they quackin' I keep goin' in with a nigga that's street top I was gettin' it in when you was rockin' feel-os Five elite out, six gon' ride

You call me the color purple, I'm bangin' on both sides Nigga, you fool, you don't let the niggas guess You fool, now you run around actin' fool That was Stack Bundles, look nigga, you fool Okay, rest in peace stack, rest in peace, play some new rock Marciano, Nicholas Cravens, and Stiles Bond, stare, yeah, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money, But shut up That dirty money stinks, scrub it in the sink Brothers wasn't a saint, now I got blood on my sneaks

Someone smudged on my cheeks, slugs running your mug piece A dozen at least, beloved I'm covered in grease But now I do my morning runs on the beach in Greece I'm beyond the goal, I'm such a threat These niggas can't touch me, not a threat Glock 40 in the strawberry red dry pad Look like the wet Montclair In my ear, one clear solitaire I'm rhymin' out of God tier Brown foxes, I'm a chocolatier I got the thousand miles stare

You got a coward's glare Gunpowder cloud the air I didn't come out your mouth, soundin' weird Poppin' all that fly shit out your beard They beggin' for recognition like some bitches still ain't bedridden Led wizards through a relative's kitchen Hit mama with what you sold was watermelon and chicken Shit was all on the dishes But one day I let go Baby, you better hide

Baby, you better hide But one day I let go go, baby, then I'll let go One day I'll let go, baby, then I'll let go One day I'll let go, baby, then I'll let go One day I'll let go, baby, then I'll let go One day I'll let go, baby, then I'll let go One day I'll let go, baby, I love you Serving butter for bread and butter I made some Margiela steppers in every color

Me lay ahead with some heavy lumber, acting London Creep with the gun like I'm doing lunges Schoolies, dunces, looted my Gucci jumpers Keeping few sticks with Thule dumpers Could never be too reluctant to shoot the musket My knuckles are jewel encrusted You wanna fuck shit Made a few adjustments, niggas bit the swag but couldn't do it justice

It's quite flattering, I find it embarrassing Y'all stinkin' up the joint like a quiet flatulent Pull up and bang out if you're feelin' froggy The inside of a Ferrari got foggy Work a mommy I knew from his shirt. The work was a body As a thousand-mile stair rock Marciano Nicholas Craven shot guys, it's what you got for us Bro, Timmy, okay, it's project. I think it's gosh what to do Okay, it's project I think it's gosh what to do

Right now so Brand new protect I never on time you see me in my mind body right you ain't never lie Trying to sign on the bottom line.'s paying rent I'll pay for it You know you ain't gotta stay for it didn't that tonight. I'll stay for it Girl, you know I got a taste for it all I can put you on a flight when you need me Got you open wide when you see me let it When we touch, I know you love it You know what, you know what to do

You know what, you know what to do It feels better than I want it You know what, you know what to do You know what, you know what to do Yeah You know what, you know what to do You know what, you know what to do Yeah Four in the morning riding on the white sheets I know you wanna try something like me

You make it light up, girl, you spicy And I just wanna tell somebody Who put you in the air, you know I do Take you anywhere, you can fly to You know if it's yours then it's mine too Whenever you want, you can slide through I can put you on a flight when you need me Got you open wide when you seek me Let it rinse and repeat When we touch, I know you love it You know what, you know what to do It feels better than I want it You know what, you know what to do

Yeah You know what, you know what to do You know what, you know what to do You know what, you know what to do Yeah That's Rotimi, What To Do Shout out to Rotimi No doubt South Orange, Maplewood

Lived there for a long time Alright Hometown hero? Young, yeah, young dude It's a bunch of people from there Yeah They high school Flooded

Really I heard One of the songsters Is from there You know which one Ice Um Columbia High School They got

Lauryn Hill They got Him They got Mad motherfuckers Um Went there Huh

SZA I think Yeah I know it was one of them. I'm wild. I thought you stopped. No, no, no. I just know they got a nice little... Yeah, they got a nice little...

That's a nice roster. There's more, but I can't just think of them off the top of my head. But yeah, shout out to him. Jersey got it, man. Shout out to Jersey. Alrighty, man. Shout out to Jersey. Alrighty then.

I want to toast with my guys, man. Not only is this the first day that you both got to my house before noon, everybody got there on time. Except you. Yeah. First day. First day. First day that happened, man.

Round of applause. Also, the first day that Ish has not eaten $300 worth of food while we've been recording the pod. Turn it up, man. He'll get to his body. His body goals soon. What's the boy, Ish? This nigga's a nutball. He's just the biggest exaggerator.

Keep questioning your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Keep Ish's diet in your prayers. Keep his yearning for candy and sweets in your prayers. Keep his Twizzler addiction in your prayers. I don't even eat Twizzlers.

His Kit Kat, Almond Joy, and Goober addiction in your prayers as a 49-year-old man. Y'all hold it down, man. Until the next time, we bid you adieu, farewell, adios, arrivederci, hasta la vista, so long, goodbye, and all that good stuff. Please remember life is a series of moments and moments past. Hey.

Please remember life is a series of moments and moments past So let's make this one last as if it's all that we have And last but not least The baddies are insecure The stagnant women want to travel The closed-minded women want you to teach them things and for her birthday she wants you to go all out like it's your birthday man don't forget that we don't get out of here y'all be safe keep your head on a swivel ignore what you hear in these rapper

lyrics get yourself killed out here be safe spin the block if you want yeah yeah yeah they memorized the card nah nah they memorized the card go ahead and spin the block go ahead yo operations stay alive till 2022

it's still in effect please be safe out there we love y'all thank y'all for joining thank y'all for listening and we see y'all same time same same place, Saturday. Here it goes.

And here it goes. Some of y'all in the car vibing out with us. Some of y'all in the shower vibing out. And here it goes. Break it down Stevie What he say? Hey, what he say? Nah, I need to hear some pianos rock

Imagine if we in the fucking 60s and the song get to cut off at three minutes Nah, let the pianos go Let the harmonicas rock Bringin' the ad-libs in the back Bring all that shit back in together, one at a time Uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh Yeah, burn it Hey, if some of y'all out there listening know how you can cut this song off right now,

maybe y'all can teach me later. I don't know how. It goes. Hey. And it goes. Four more minutes left on the record. Stevie, talk to these niggas. It goes.

Shout out to all the parents listening out there Ayy, shout out to all the children Love the children Oh, look what y'all did Y'all made a man, uh oh You make me wish you were born in another time and space Yeah, na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na, uh oh Your lifetime's better than twice it's never

There's God, no exception Yo, when a nigga come on in, he do na-na-na-na-na-na, uh oh Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na And the truth and then change that truth into love. And maybe I'm choosing in the great, great, chosen world. I'll be loving you until the rainbow burns the mountain sky. Loving you until the oceans cover the land of my life. Loving you until the dolphin flies in private sea. Some people hear music, man. Some people feel that shit. Dream of life and life become a dream. Some people hear music, man you until the day that I die I'm no more, loving you until the day that I turn and right and left And loving you until the earth just falls and soars and I'm a self

Loving you until all the lasers, all the lasers are burning through Loving you until the day that you are me and I am you And I ain't no love in you And there's nothing you want And I've got to say And it goes I'm gonna take you away I'm gonna take you away

I'm gonna take you away Always Always Always Hey Hey Yo, before we get out of here again Shout out to K.R.S.1, Big Daddy Kane Rakim, Slick Rick Cool G Rap Molly Ma again shout out the carrots one big daddy came rock him slick Rick legendary

school G rap Molly mom Mellie Mel the Grandmaster MC Shane Roxanne Shantae Chuck D hey Hey! Yo, thank y'all, man. Just thank y'all for y'all participation in this shit. Night and night become the day Until the trees that seem to stop and fly away Until the day that ain't coming There's no one I can't believe it

There's no one I can't believe it There's no land Until the earth just falls And the sun and the moon set Until the earth just falls apart Until your mother nature says Oh, I can't do it Until the day that I die No, Joe, but...

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,