The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 486 | "Don't Call Me a Rapper"

Episode Date: November 6, 2021

Joe is no stranger to trending on social media, and this past week he dominated headlines with a misguided clip regarding his sexuality (19:00). He and the crew then pivot their focus on Ye's (formally known as Kanye West) interview on Drink Champs (31:40). Joe commends N.O.R.E. on his execution of the interview (36:25), analyzes many of the profound statements Ye made (42:15), the issue with black artists being limited to "rappers" (1:06:30), and Joe addresses Big Sean's issues with Ye (1:24:30). In addition to the extensive breakdown of the Ye interview, Joe and the guys discuss Summer Walker's new album (2:11:40), Silk Sonic's latest single (2:14:10), and MORE! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Summer Walker - “Constant Bullshit” Ice | Key Glock - “Something Bout Me” Parks | Snoop Dogg - “Murder Music” (Ft. Benny The Butcher, Jadakiss & Busta Rhymes) Ish | Jordan Hawkins - “We Have”

You can talk about whatever we want to. Yo, turn this thing on. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. Hey. What's happening? Hey. Don't start this shit. Everyone.

What? Nothing. Hi, Joe. Hi. Hey. No, hi. Hello. We're saying hi.

Hey, nigga. What up, fam? Hey, I let the right nigga in now. What's up? What's up? Hey. Hold up, man. We in now. Hey, I'm good. Hey, my gun shot right nigga in now. What's up? What's up? Hey, hold up, man. We in now.

Hey, I'm good. Hey, my gun shot a little low, dog. Oh, it's real low. My gun shot a little low, dog. You got a different gun now. Turn your volume up. Turn your volume up. No, my volume is fine. You got a different gun now.

No, my volume is fine. Parks, you trying to be funny. You trying to be funny. Yeah, it was funny. You trying to be funny. Yeah, that was funny. You trying to be funny, though. It wasn't on purpose, but I'll take credit for it. Don't do that. You should go to you now.

Don't do that. It's the air horn and the gun at the same time. Stop, man. What? My phone don't stop ringing with your bullshit. Man, you really fucked up. Wait, what happened? Both my phones up, though. All right, come on. Nah, let's talk about it. What happened My phone don't stop ringing with your bullshit. Bam, you really fucked up. Wait, what happened? Both my phones up, though.

All right, come on. Nah, let's talk about it. What happened? What happened? Stop. Well, I got to stop being me because your phone is ringing. You don't think that's selfish as a cis man? As a what?

A cis man. I don't know what that means. Oh, come on. All right, forget it, man. I don't know what that means. Oh, shit. What's just happening? Nice to talk to you. All right. All right.

We started. I didn't intro this yet. So that's what everybody hit me and said. It's intros. You're out. Everybody hit me and said, yo, dog, you could have warned me. You could have warned me that you were going to do that. Like, my phone won't stop ringing. Yeah.

That's what everybody said. My mama said it. My dad waited a day. Who else? What did Pop say? Yeah. Yo, what Pop said? What Pop say?

Well, my dad's call is the one that really hit home. That's the one that made me think about it. Stop playing. Oh, all right. I should think a little bit more. Because he didn't say nothing. But what he said was, I was riding with your brother.

I was like, oh shit. Brothers. Damn it. Trey's grown. He's alright. He's okay. Plus he's from a different generation. Trey be 21 years old. Me and him and I can talk about anything in the universe. He's from a different generation. Trey be 21 years old. Me and him and I can talk about anything in the universe.

He's cool. Your 13 and 14 year old little brothers that are freshmen in high school that maybe aren't the tallest of gentlemen. Right. You can see where that might get difficult or could be if you think about cruel children and just kids that. I mean, so true that that puts some thought into it. But anybody else? I don't give a fuck. Next podcast, we're not cursing in the first 10 minutes.

20 minutes, man. Yo, Abbie, your phone went off? Niggas wanted me? They was looking for the God. What's up, Aki? Y'all niggas used to be roommates. You got something you want to tell me? Yeah, I got a couple of those. Fuck out of here, man.

Yo, you used to live there with the niggas, right? What's up, yo? Fuck out of here. What's up, yo? See, none of them niggas was... Say it to me. Hit my phone. Text me.

Get my phone number. And tell them to call me with those jokes. See, I'm here now. I'm here. The fuck is niggas talking about? Like somebody would want y'all. Yo, I... What are you talking about? That's would want y'all. Yo. What are you talking about?

That's what you got from me? Yeah. What's wrong with this? So now when word first got out, and I don't even know how to feel right now. Hey, Parks, could you cut the air on? This is going to be a hot one. I don't even. Pause.

I don't know how to feel. It was some people that were saying, no, we been new. We could tell. We been new, Joe. You ain't. You know what I mean? And I was like, well, wow. What is that really saying?

You got to think about it. You got to think about it. They think that if my hot ass had niggas in the stash, that the niggas would have been silent for 20 years of career? Wait. That stumped me in the bed for like an hour. Every girl has said every horrible thing about Joe that there is to say throughout my career. Except for that. But the men.

They're going to be quiet. Well, the men might be. I ain't going to say that. They've held me down, huh? Is that what they're saying? I was about to say something, but. Dog, these niggas would be the first one in Hollywood unlocked. Men might have fought back.

Saying they had a piece of some... The niggas... The niggas boop bopped you. You're saying I got boop bopped by my gay lovers is what you're saying. Now I'm starting this podcast. I'm not doing this at all.

No. No. No. First off the pod week. Something about the music now be a little funky. A little distorted. Let me smile with my heart. Mic check, mic, mic. Why everything that's supposed to be bad make me feel so good Everything they told me that too is exactly what I want

Man I tried to stop man, I tried the best I could but What's your addiction? Is it money? Is it girls? Is it weed? I've been affected By not one, not two But all three She's got the same thing About me

But more about us She's coming over So I guess That means All my drugs Just let me peep now I mean, dang I'm so

Alright, now y'all know where I'm going with this Y'all know where I'm starting I got a lot to unpack with this Kanye interview. Shout out to Nori. Shout out to the whole Drip Ship. Shout out to Yank. Here we go. Got a lot to get you today

Hope everybody's feeling good, feeling great Shout out to everybody listening wherever you might be at Shout out to all the cities out there, we'll be there soon, you hear? Flashing Okay Lights And it go All the cities out there will be there soon, you hear? Okay And then go Shout out to all the ladies listening Shout out to the LGBTQ community, we here

And then go She don't believe in shooting stars But she believe in shoes and cars Wood floors in the new apartment Cool tour from the store's department You more like love to start shit I'm more of the trips to Florida Ordered the orders, views of the water

Straight from a page of your favorite author And the weather's so breezy Man, why can't life always be this easy? The orders, views of the water Straight from a page of your favorite author And the weather's so breezy Man, why can't life always be this easy? She in the mirror dancing so sweetly Everybody here saw that interview, I'm assuming? I hit everybody bright this early, said please watch that interview I knew it was on my phone bright and early this morning Damn, these niggas got me I hate these niggas more than the Nats

As I fall, I know you're gonna show off But I never thought that you would take it this far For what do I know? Flash, light, light What do I know? Flash, don't lie Man, I can understand how it might be It's kinda hard to love a girl like me

I don't blame you for wanting to be free I just wanted you to know I just wanted you to know Swizz told me let the beat rock For all my Southside niggas that know me best I feel like me and Taylor might still have sex Why I made that bitch famous I made that bitch famous For all the girls that got dick from Kanye West I made that bitch famous I made that bitch famous

For all the girls that got dick from Kanye West If you see em in the streets give em Kanye's best Why they mad they ain't famous They mad they still nameless A man in the store trying to try his best But he just can't seem to get Kanye fresh But we still hood famous Yeah we still hood famous Yeah we still hood famous

One hand in the air, if you don't really care Two hands in the air, if you don't really care It's like that sometimes, I mean ridiculous It's like that sometimes, this shit ridiculous One hand in the air, if you don't really care Middle finger in the air air If you don't really care, it's like Sometimes they're ridiculous Life can be sometimes ridiculous I'm so appalled, appalled and appalled And Donald Trump taking dollars from y'all I've been appalled at you niggas, you're all disgusting to me

If you don't mind, I'ma keep you on call We a butter law, we don't give a fuck about y'all Like a dog said That you a fucking hoe through the wall But since they all love us I need more rubbers And if I don't use rubbers Need more covers

Housekeeping I mean goddamn One time Let it be a bad bitch sweeping That know we get O's like Cheerios That know because they seen us in the videos That know the day that you play me It be the same day MGV play videos

I got y'all, we starting soon, don't worry about y'all, alright? Y'all ready to party? Y'all ready to party? Mary Lee Lane, I'm with the music, I'm here I'm not mad, rock y'all Race through to the most fly product Why would she make the calls after me? Now I'm awake, sleepers do Sleeper soon Hey, hey, hey, hey Don't say you will Unless you will

Hey, hey, hey, hey Don't say you will Then play you will I say you will, then play you will I pray you will Oh, when it all, it all falls down This the real one, baby Listen, I got a lot of sleep last night I caught up on all the sleep I missed out

I missed out on during the week being a little hot ass running the streets. I woke up really well rested. I cut that interview on right in the early five in the morning. Felt like it was feeding the soul. I ain't gonna lie to you. It made my morning. I watched the entire thing. By the time I got to an hour 30, I felt like, fuck, it's about to be too short.

Yeah, but it was good length. Pause. It was 220, two hours and 20 minutes. But by the time he got to cooking, because that game came at the end, neither or both. Yeah. And by the time they got there. That's supposed to be a rapid fire game. It lasted an hour and a half.

That Henny started talking. Yeah. That Zaza started talking. We're going to talk about all of it. This is a podcast to unpack a podcast. She cut it all off. Now she look like Eve. She be dealing with some issues that you can't believe.

Single black email. A deal to retail and wow. It all falls down. And when it falls down, who you going to call now? All right, I guess we got to start. Come on, come on. And when it all falls down. Man, I promise? Alright I guess we gotta start. Come on, come on, and when it all falls down Man I promise

I'm so self conscious That's why you always see me with at least one of my watches Rollies and posse's And throw me crazy, I can't even pronounce nothing Pass that for safety Then I spent 400 bucks on this Just to be like nigga you ain't up on this And I can't even go to the grocery store

Without some ones that's clean And a few Just to be like, nigga, you ain't up on this And I can't even go to the grocery store Without someone that's clean and a few Alright, it's time to get to it now This shit come on different than the Maybach I wasn't up It sounds different than that I wasn't talking to you I wasn't talking to you

I was talking to rich niggas out there Or head rope niggas Sit this one out, alright? Hey Rich niggas out there Hey, rope niggas Sit this one out, alright? Ayyyy Yo, shout out to the first and last time listeners Shout out to all of day one All the casual niggas too It be a lot of y'all out there first and last time listeners. Shout out to all of Day One. All the casual niggas too. It be a lot of y'all out there. I recognize y'all.

Talk to them. Yo, go get your Zod. Go get whatever you need, man. We gon' get to it. Dog, dog, dog, dog, dog, dog, dog. Dog, dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just threw 20 countin' We was in Inazuma We was in Inazuma I let the monsters, huh They call me a monster But my pockets, we got God with a T Everything I did, but I didn't Listen, listen, listen

I said, listen, listen I said, listen, listen We split it, we all When I was in jail, I was low-key Shout out to supporters that broke me Work out and go sleep You know I'm praying, can't we both be? We got God with a C I'll get to that at some point. When I was in jail, I was low-key. Shout out to supporters that wrote me. Don't work out, nigga. Go sleep. You know I'm praying.

Can't really work peace. But we got God with us. If you look at me, you'll see a God figure. And when I stop vibing, I know that he with me. And I'ma always catch a hard shiver. I know his demons in that dark liquor. We buy a bottle of squash. Wish up everybody.

Turn it to a horse. But my body is bigger than my heart, Richard. I'm not smart. I grind harder than my car quicker. I'm at her church. She pray for me. She my God sister. God sister.

Yeah. I'm on the church. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. How could you not be ready to part? And the people I keep posting, I'm telling you, you should not be ready to part. No, I know.

I see your Balenciagas, nigga. I see what's going on. I see what's going on. Slits in the knees when it's 30 degrees. I'm glad somebody said it. I know what that mean. I know what that mean. I know what that means. No, we over here.

Don't look that way. We over here. Slits in the knees when it's 30 degrees. You're a rapper. You're not joining in with the athletes. Came out of Video Village with it. Y'all told me one of them. Nah, he did what he had to do today.

He did what he had to do today. You did that. We not in Rikers. We not in Rikers no more. I touched down. I touched down. I'm home. It's just home now.

You saw Ye with all the Balenciagas, and he said, you know what? That's what it was. That's what happened. They were talking about it. You chiming in? Yeah, that's what I do. I chime. And it looked like it could have been from the Ye pool, not just a regular Balenciaga.

Could have been the Ye pool. It's different. That's different. He said it himself. He said it. It's different. Listen. It's a good interview, man.

We're going to get to it. He said it himself said it is different. Listen. It's a good interview This is the hardest nigga in the world, man. This boy right here. I'm glad that he said that he saw the freestyle that we saw. It was like, nah, I need him on my album. That's hard. That's dope. And he delivered. Yeah, he did. You know what I'm saying? Like, he could have got on here and did some bullshit. Right. hard. That's dope. And he delivered. Yeah, he did.

You know what I'm saying? Like, he could have got on here and did some bullshit. Right. No, no, no. He said, all right, I'm going to show my ass off. Like, you don't feel you too big to still reach back and grab somebody. Like, that's dope. That's dope.

This man did what he had to do right here. Yeah, he did. I guess Soulja Boy did not. What? You heard the verse, right? Yeah, you heard the verse, right? That was me. You heard the verse? right? You heard the verse, right? That was my verse. You heard that verse?

I was like, all right. Yeah, chill. Chill. Chill. There's a lot of reactions to his interview. I was looking forward to about four of them. I got what I got out of that. What I needed.

Let's just talk, man. Let's get to it. Yeah, let's talk. Nice set, man. It's get to it. Yeah, let's talk. Nice second. It's a good second. Yeah. No Joe Button. Not for daddy. It's 481, 481, 45, 46.

Welcome to episode 46 of the Joe Budden Podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host, Joe Budden, here with a few really good guys. Parks is here today, as he should be. It's fucking his house. It's just here. Crazy. I just said, that's gotta be dope to wake up and just walk downstairs and just work

from home. Well, that's why we were saying, out of the other's why we were saying with your same outfit on like Einstein, you ain't have to pick what to wear, none of that shit. Sometimes I be wearing the same shit from last pod but then I got to change because why would you want to know that? Park's better than me. I be down here in a robe.

I'm not on camera. I'm not looking at me. I got to be fucked up. I'll be in a robe and slippers. Actually, I'm just naked. No, no. This week, I don't know if that's, you know what I mean? It's not funny this week. I got to do some of that now.

Oh, that's true. You guys. And your shirt says, good guys wear black. And I'm a little bit uncomfortable now. I don't know. Ice, how do you feel? Like, you're wearing black as well? I'm black and white.

Yo, I wouldn't want you. I don't understand. I don't understand this. Yeah, like you're not selective? Yeah, I know you niggas be feeling snackish. I know you be in your mind thinking you a snack, but I'm cool. I'm cool. Ish is here.

Ice is here. Young boys are back there in Video Village. How's everybody doing? How's everybody feeling? How's everybody feeling? What's going on? I'm good Chill, I'm good Come on, wake up

I'm happy now Hey, look My phone ain't ringing So I'm happy now What happened? Come on, give it to me Walk me through Walk me through

Come on, what happened? Fam, it was people That I haven't spoken to In years That were Coming out of the woodworks Checking for the God Checking for him.

There was also, yo, you can give him my number? No, it wasn't what you meant. Pump it up, Streams. Soaring. Pump it up, Streams. Out of here. Through the roof. Win-win everywhere.

It's going to become an anthem. It was a win-or-win. I don't see the loss. I don't see the loss anywhere, but go ahead. No, no, you're right. But I'm just saying. It was just the phone would not stop ringing. I walked into work this morning on the walk-in.

Yo, that shit true? Damn. It's 730. It's a hot topic. Yo, who Joe fucking? For real, think about it. Yo, give that nigga my number. Think about it.

Yo, you got it, fam. So I'm going to give you my man's number. He told me to give you his number alright alright I'll google voice phone him whatever

I'll call him from the google number whatever that is here fuck what's going on with you what happened what happened with you

your phone too you don't say yeah nigga he bumped up at you he looked mad at me about it you good you good yeah I'm straight man Yeah, nigga. He bumped up at you. Wait. Hey, he look mad at me about it. Yeah, I was. You good?

You good? Yeah, I'm straight, man. Stop your buffing. My phone kind of went off, too, a little bit. Yeah, don't say. Your buffoonery, yo. And my DMs. Like, everything kind of, you know what I mean?

My friends didn't pay that shit no mind. I was like, oh, that's good for him. See the difference some of the people that I assumed would know that that wasn't for real didn't

you gotta feel a way and then I felt a way hold up dog well not only I felt see I kept it was just an emotional rollercoaster

as Vivian Green would say I felt a way about that right but on the flip side It was just an emotional rollercoaster, as Vivian Green would say. I felt a way about that, right? But on the flip side... Wait, what am I saying? Please. What did I feel a way about? That people that know you that you thought would know better didn't know better.

They didn't know. But on the flip side, a few people were hitting me to console me console and then i was offended like fam if this is what i am i don't need your consoling like i'm flaming the end like why do i need you to tell me to feel like i don't understand i didn't i was. A few people hit me that I wasn't fucking anymore and told me they couldn't fuck me anymore. Whoa.

And I was like, if I'm by now, the field has expanded. There's way more options. I already wasn't fucking you no more. The rules, y'all, I'm telling you, it's better over here. It's better over here, honestly.

Round of applause for me. Nah, dead ass. No, honestly. Nah, dead ass. I've never felt so loved before, like my whole life. In that one day. Like, I see why. Fuck y'all.

Fuck y'all. I'm happy for you, buddy. I'm not going back. I'm not going back. You can't go back. I don't want to go back to the streets. Sorry. Them niggas is rough.

I got an ice grill smile. I got to be a gang member, be in a frat, a Freemason. I got to be something. They're like, over here. It's just like, ah, I'm chilling. You in a frat or Freemason. I got to be something to like, over here, it's just like, ah, I'm chilling. You in a frat. Niggas offering me lunch. Del Frisco.

They trying to fly you out. You know how much money I could save? They offering you hot dogs and sausage. Juking the system. Fam. Juking the system,

buns. Y'all playing around. In exchange for your buns. You have, all right, y'all have been in a club with a fake ID? Yeah, same thing. in exchange for your boss. All right. Y'all have been in a club with a fake ID? Yeah. Same thing.

Sign. No, it's not. Is it? It's the same. Oh, my God, bro. What is? You wasn't supposed to be there. I know. I know.

But we was there. Chilling out. We was drinking. We was doing shit. It's the same thing. And now it's like perfect because people can identify as what they want. So I don't have to actually be bi to identify as bi. Listen, y'all keep that shit, dog.

I'm chilling. Carlos, I'm going to hit you back when I feel like it. Listen, y'all keep that shit, dog. I'm chilling. Carlos, I'm going to hit you back when I feel like it. So your preference is the Spanish news? Yo, so all my gay friends, all my gay family friends called me. And let me make myself clear to the LGBTQ plus community.

Some of y'all didn't know because I keep this grill on my face. I fuck with y'all. I'm y'all, dog. I'm y'all. I just don't like everything that y'all didn't know because I keep this grill on my face. I fuck with y'all. I'm y'all, dog. I'm y'all. I just don't like everything that y'all like. But I'm down with y'all more than I am the straights. Fuck these straights. Like, they need to really know who their allies are.

It's me. Fuck these allegations that have existed. I'm down. Sorry. I don't even hang out with my straight friends no more. These niggas is married got girls what's up I thought this through you're not giving me back

to the straights no no no so let me ask you a question no I won't ask you a question no

I won't go I won't I won't ask you a question I won't go you're not gonna make me go. Hey, Savon, you're writing, right? Do I have to go? You don't have to flag it anymore.

It's cool. You're right. Yo, wait. So now they say I got mad, man. Hold up. Y'all making me mad. I'm getting mad. I forgot.

So there's a few of y'all out there, though, that didn't accept me. I seen it. I seen it. I'm the first nigga that came out that they was like, no. We don't want you. We don't want him. Nah, they gotta chill out. They can't do that to me.

I'm down. Fuck that shit. Just take it slow with me. A few of my female friends started hating. Yo, it gets deep. I'm telling y'all, it gets deep. Wait, all right. Now you got to explain that one. It got deep yesterday.

What did they hate on? What did they hate on? They thought you was going to take eligibles from them. It gets... Yo, I'm telling you something. Fam, you got to tell me. It got so deep yesterday. Y'all have no idea.

It was so many women that started looking at me like the comp. You are the comp. They didn't pay these little man purses no mind. They didn't care about little man bags. Go ahead, Joe. You bullshitting. But now, nah, nigga, you might be at the games. What if Joe like athletes?

Wait. Hey, nigga, I will juke this whole system oh my god so some of my family friends call me like family friends they've seen me from a child right so my gay family friends call me right now dog i call you joey the yo change it's like joey no no no it's cool it's family friends like family it's my family family family family right Joey. Did yo change? It was like, Joey. No, no, no. It was cool. It was family friends. It was like family.

It was my family, family, family, family. Right? It was like, Joey, the hell's happening out here? I said, yo, dog, this would happen, but I ain't going to lie. My phone blowing up, man. It's like they was waiting on me. Niggas was like, yeah, they been waiting a while wait hold on my family friends was like i ain't gonna hold you they've been waiting i said really that's how you've been gay bait i said wait excuse me

they never heard that i was like no I never heard that they said you know how you been now so shit I'm stepping into my shit man I'm stepping into my round of applause for me man round of applause for me

I want the world to know got to let it show not giving me back I'm not going sorry Ish I want the world to know, got to let it show. Not giving me back. I'm not going. Sorry, Ish. What you sorry, Ish? What are you talking about? There's nothing you can say to me.

I'm here. We're here now. And this is the other part that confused me. I've only been telling y'all for at least two years in a row that I plan on coming out the closet. Shorty was mad at you. I said that shit. Wait, who? She was mad at me?

Yeah. Why? No, not my shorty. Oh, who? Oh, girl. She said you came out too early. It was supposed to be 2022. Oh, no, we're going to unpack the reactions. We got to unpack the reactions from these niggas. These niggas is fucking loco out here.

Niggas was upset. I've seen some of my exes. It was time. Why are you so mad? All right, don't worry about it, man. We're going to get to it. Let me take a little sip of this coffee. Hey. Mm. All right. I love you.

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It's gonna start over again It's raining men Hallelujah, it's raining men Amen I'm gonna go out I'm gonna let myself get Half a load of soaking rain I'm gonna go out. I'm gonna let myself get absolutely soaking wet. It's raining men.

Hallelujah, it's raining men. Every dress of men. So, yo, Kanye was saying that, um... Can we turn the light off? I'm about to catch a seizure over here. Oh, my God. Not yet. What's the sentence, though?

Nah, we outside. Keep my rainbow going. Fuck is you talking about? We here now to let the right nigga in the club. Yeah. Nah, bring my horns and what's good, though? Oh, what's goody? Young man, there's no need to build now

I say, young man, pick yourself off the ground I say, young man, cause you're in a new town There's no need to be unhappy I'm just stepping right now. You guys are no fun. These guys are horrible, man. You guys are horrible. All right, come on, man. Azalea Banks said I came out a few months too early just to spite her

if you don't know Azalea Banks predicted that Joe Budden would come out of the closet in 2022 not sure where she could have got that from gotten that but she was wrong

and she's right I definitely did that a few months earlier to say fuck out of here you don't know shit she was one of the ones that told me to go back in the closet that a few months earlier to say, fuck out of here. You don't know shit. She was one of the ones that told me to go back in the closet for a few months. I think that that's disrespectful and shady.

I thought she was a little shady with that one. Let me hit a gunshot for her being shady. There was some womenittered through my past That started just saying things Inspired more thought More thought It did inspire more thought Who the people? Don't matter

Don't matter One was from my Mali error and anything that happened in my molly era didn't happen today like i stand by that i'm sad that they don't feel that way as well but actually i do feel that so they feel that too and that's why that kanye interview kanye right kanye kanye gonna get killed y'all i ain't let me gonna get killed, y'all. I ain't, let me just be honest with y'all. Yo, can we cut this rainbow off? This shit fucking my eyes.

They gonna tear Kanye up. Nah, it's not funny. Because Kanye just said a lot of things. He said what he thinks and how he feels. a lot of things. He said what he thinks and how he feels. And as a dictator, as an initiator,

as someone that, yo, this interview, dog. This interview, dog. There was a lot of bars in there. Dog. No, the first hour and a half of this interview was...

The rest of this pod damn near could be about this interview we could do three to four pods easy solely on this interview if you're a new listener

or you're just joining us and you don't know what we're talking about we're talking about Kanye West's interview on the Drink Champs shout out to Ronald Palsman

that's big man that's big I was on the live and there was 180,000 people on it at 11 o'clock. You know what I'm saying? In the live stream. So I can't imagine what his numbers are going to be like through the roof.

I mean, the shit was at- No matter. It'll break 10 million. Easily. Yes. Bro, it was at a million plus. It'll break 10 million. Today.

Well, the Mormons had 2 million almost right now, the next day. Good for him, man. Good for the whole team. My brain was racing so much during this interview. I'm going to have to watch it again. Oh, yeah. I started to watch it again, but I'm just going to talk. And you guys can jump in wherever you guys feel like jumping in.

This interview for me, right, we all are products of our environment and our experiences. we all are products of our environment and our experiences. So all of our thoughts, our train of thought, our processor comes from that. The data that was put in. Yeah, the data that's in us. So anything that we see here,

we interpret it that way, right? When I look at interviews, for me, it takes a lot of strength to cut all of that off. Now, let me start with I don't look at interviews often. When I do is because someone powerful is speaking. Yeah. That I want to hear from. And when you're listening to somebody that powerful speaking. You want to cut off whatever processor you normally use

right because you'll never be able to understand what the fuck these niggas are talking about by your processor these people are generally are normally people that uh are have been overexposed to things that the general public may not have been. For Kanye, for me, he's the one where I really have to go out of my way to shut down my own thoughts and interpretation of what he has seen and felt and gone through, right and tried to try and see it through his lens because he's already nuanced and he's already complex and he's already all of these things like he said in the interview i'm the guy that can compete with drake at the highest level and can compete with virgil at his craft at the highest level i'm the i'm the one guy he said a lot boy was he talking he was talking he was talking right

but i want to start before the talking okay because these interviews for me because i'm in this field it's psychological from way before the camera cuts on elliot hit me like two days before this interview dropped. And Elliot said. Yo Nori got yay. I saw Nori tweeting stuff like it feels like Christmas or something like that. And Nori tweeted. It feels like Christmas.

After Elliot already told me that. Round of applause again for my brother Nori. Because that's what that feels like. I love that shit, yo. I know some of y'all think I'm a hater. I ain't. I love when people do like what they're destined to do. Right?

But I ate Elliot back and I was like, so what? Like, I don't care about this. Let me know when Drake gets somewhere. But that's Joe from Joe's brain. Joe's brain is, I don't want to talk to people really a lot. And that's why I move Elliot out of media wars. Because Elliot is Lil Wayne and Jay-Z and elliot is cemented i don't care it don't matter who you talk to it don't or don't talk to sway it don't matter like y'all niggas

don't matter y'all are legends move nori is creating his legend in this field right so while the media guys always get mad at the big fish the big fish rappers that pick certain media guys i don't because it's the psychology in it these niggas always land where they're supposed to it tells you something about their brain and how they want to be seen and depicted and who they want to talk to and where they feel comfortable at kanye couldn't have done this with elliot no he couldn't have done this with me he couldn't have done this with Elliot. No. He couldn't have done this with me. He couldn't have done this with Charlamagne.

We've seen that walk through the bushes already. It wasn't this. Right. He couldn't have done this with Rogan. He did this with Norrie, who was out before him, who's managed by Biggs, who's close to Dame, who is an intricate family tree. They got records together. Whoa, man.

We talked about that briefly. Man, fuck them records. It's a history. I'm saying, yeah, there's history there. The records, niggas can make records and hate each other. These two is tied in. So it started there for me. It was like, wow, never seen Kanye smile so much.

He was comfortable. He was comfortable. It was like he was, never seen Kanye smile so much. He was comfortable. He was comfortable. It was like he was happy to be there. You never seen his teeth so much. This is the first time in his whole career where I was like, are those veneers or not? I've never seen his teeth so much in one setting. I haven't.

Right? Fucking, and I know that the henny creeping up. No, just the fact that he felt comfortable enough in there to start taking that many shots. That says something. The fact that he came in there with no security. That says something. Like, Norris, like, yo, he didn't have no security when he came. I know, but he did.

Maybe. Maybe. Don't know maybe about it. He said he was with Larry Hoover or something. That ain't security, nigga, but I get it. Fuck if it ain't. Fuck if it get it. Fuck if it ain't. Shit. Fuck if it ain't.

Fuck if it ain't. All right, but. That's better than any security company you gonna hire in the world. It's better. Norrie said, this is why this shit so great. Norrie said, yo, I hired security. Because you too big of a responsibility. Yeah.

On my hand. Yeah, absolutely. He didn't say I hired it for you to walk around because I was worried about you. No. Hey, these three hours you here with me? Nah, dog. Nothing can happen to you, nigga.

That speaks to, in case you be needing a reminder, and he told us here that we be needing a reminder. He said, I got to remind y'all who I am because some people forget. That speaks to who's on your hands and who you really deal with he told us plain as day who his peers were some of the things he's battling and told us what he's worth just shortly after telling us he was in debt he told us so much shit and that's where the second part of the psychology starts for me. You can't watch this interview with him one time and pick up on everything he's saying because you can see in real time here how his brain operates.

All over the place, but in a good way. It's moving fast, though. There's a lot of information to process in a short period of time. And then he told us, as I of time and then he told us as i was thinking this he told us he said i'm the guy you put the dinosaur bone in front of and i'm gonna draw the dinosaur for you you might not see it just put the little little speck of the bone there i'm gonna draw it out that's the visionary i am that was a really great way to explain his scatterbrain thinking to a kindergartner and then that's where the third part

of my psychology came in. Because Kanye clearly is one of the people that if he's not in a space where he can express himself in free thought, just,

then he's going to be taken wrong. He's going to shut down. No, he's going to shut down. And he's going to be taken wrong. Because's going to shut down. No, he's going to shut down. And he's going to be taken wrong because he might not shut down. He'll keep going with whatever sentiment he's trying to convey, even if he's conveying it wrong. But in this space where he's able to speak freely and boy, he hit me over the head with this one. Look at the difference in right. Look at the difference in what he said when he was speaking up about women's

bodies and abortion laws and rights and he got a lot of backlash because shut the fuck up stop telling women what to do with their bodies kanye west in this structured setting but he said the same thing here in a setting where he was able to explain his thought. And boy, did it sound totally different. It sounded like some real genius shit if we get to the context. No, I'm not telling women what to do with their bodies. I want to offer us another option. Or I want to expound on why they want you to do that and why they pushing you to do that.

He's not the first person I heard say that like a lot of um black i don't even know what to call them uh thought provoking people they've really pushed uh yo in the black neighborhoods we got planned parenthood they want to give you condoms right they want They want to push abortions. When you go to the white neighborhoods, they got, what's the shit where they help you make a baby? Fertility. Fertility clinics, I'm sorry. They got fertility clinics throughout the white neighborhood. Deep. But they got tons of fucking Planned Parenthood in our neighborhood.

They want you to use condoms. They'll give you all you want, and then they want you to get abortions. Plan B, all that other shit, because they want to stop the production of black babies but in the white neighborhood they pushing for y'all to have more and more and more babies kanye that's a that's deep my nigga no it's super deep it's super deep when he said that shit it just it was just a quick glimpse into how overexposed he's been i know it because i've been slightly exposed and my brain is forever altered by it like just knowing what's out there when he's at oh yeah plan b and the lady that invested in that is the kkk and the lady that created the plan b pill it's population control and you can't say

that without me now thinking of everything it's just a condoms liquor stores uh cigarettes all up it's all population diet. It's all population. It's all population. Diet, chicken. Don't get me started, man. My brain was all over the place in this as was his though.

Like I love that. I liked it. Nori, let him do that. Lori, let him go. We don't typically see that from Nori. I love that.

I think if he would have came here we would have had no choice but to let him go of course his brain is too scattered I know and genius to hold him in a structured setting

you have to let him go you gotta let him go you can't sit there with whatever you had written down because the shit that he's his brain is gonna go

off of that and now we gonna be talking about something that was nowhere near our brain like I just think with him right one I think he's a genius is going to go off of that and now we're going to be talking about something that was nowhere near our brain. Like, I just think with him, right? One, I think he's a genius in so many different aspects.

Yes. He says, admittedly, two or three times in this, yo, I'm not good at math. I'm not good at reading. I'm not well read. No, I'm not good at reading. It's a different thing.

Well read means I ain't read a lot of books. I don't read that well means I ain't really that. I'm not that good at reading. I don't count well. That's not my strength. He said, I don't count well. But all this other shit in my mind. It's like the beautiful mind.

In all of these movies we see about these geniuses and the shit and how they brain be thinking. You can see it come across in this interview but that's what i was saying and i don't want us to get off course but some of that point is what i was saying to you about homeschooling when we was having our fight that's what i got from what you heard that example you brought up about watching it watching watching uh watching the child do the homework the apples yeah that Yeah, the apples. That was my point about homeschooling. What he said about college. As soon as he said it, I was like, yeah, dog.

All this bullshit that they tell you that's awesome about the college experience. Imagine if you was just closer to love and your network and your family and just from the rip. Like, that nigga was talking. I'm going to say this, right? Watch it again if you missed it. He was absolutely correct in a bunch of his points kanye west is worth nine billion dollars per him he has the authority to be able to do that he has the freedom to be able to do that right so when you and i had an argument about schooling i only said that the kids suffered

socially is what i said because that interaction that you get from different personalities is vital in your development but my counter to that my counter to that though is kobe bryant how he suffered socially says who the people around him. He had friends all over the country. He was bigger in China than he was over here. He spoke eight languages. He had a network that he built from his nomadness, I guess, or from being able to live over here, go over here. My dad was over here.

My dad traveled with me, and I picked up every culture. Picked up something from everything. Hey, when Luka was watching the game, he started talking to that nigga and whatever that is. L luca was like y'all mean same story like that could be that could come to fruition i'm agreeing but kobe bryant in his difference was a genius kanye said when he sat with kobe they talking about scotty pippen he's showing him scotty pippen on the screen right moving his feet and he said yo fuck the long arms he's trying to master scotty pippen he's showing him Scottie Pippen on the screen right moving his feet and he said yo fuck the long arms he's trying to master Scottie Pippen's footwork read the referee books but everything that Kanye saying ish and I'm glad you brought that point up uh about the Scottie

Pippen shit that's where I was going next everything Kanye said here and even in the Fabio record I love uh to my kids kids kids have kids that's one of the most powerful lines for me because do you know how far out you got to be thinking? And do you know how much you have to consider for your actions in 2021 to move different? This for my kids, kids, kids, kids, right? Everything that he's saying in this shit said to me, it ain't about me. And it ain't about my kids now. We usher in the next generation.

The Jews have a community where it ain't no nann it ain't about my kids now we usher in the next generation the jews have a community where it ain't no nannies or it's our grandmas and i think it goes different like okay now he's talking he's talking now this just goes different if some things happen different kobe brings up a genius that we all recognize as a genius and he finds a genius way to point out why the thinking was genius because you look at something so obvious. Best defensive small forward of all time, arguably. Look at how long his wingspan is. Should have been real easy to do that.

No, bitch nigga, it's not. Look at his feet. Right. And no one was thinking about that. The normal person is not looking at feet when you're looking at that type of anomaly, right? Indeed. He just was going, man.

He was going. He's different. He said he bought a whole bunch of acres for future development-ish last week. Two weeks ago, you came in and told me about your homeboy that was buying some acres. We seen Moneybagg, your girlfriend, buy him some acres. And some people out there just buying Lakers. And stupid niggas are sitting back saying, well, what the fuck was the point of that? It gets deep.

Again. This can get deep for our? It gets deep. Again. This can get deep for our great... Way deep. This can get deep for our great grandkids. Nigga, we sitting around just posting pics

and on Insta Live. This could get crazy soon. If you thinking about that. Y'all like an hour in? I really started getting a little scared. Why? So was he.

So was he. So was he. They said five times, yo, they're going to get me. Oh, y'all think they wasn't. Y'all thought I was coming here to play. He said that. It's on his mind. I kind of got happy and then I got mad when they started doing the typical Dream Champs games because it took them out the serious bag a little bit.

It took them to the industry bag. That nigga was talking about the world. He was talking about the world. He was talking about the levels of every... My nigga, this nigga was saying some shit. He was. I like that they broke it up, though. I'm not gonna lie.

No, no, no. Again, I said I was happy and sad because he could have talked about this to me for five hours because my brain be over there. Not for nothing, the industry questions just went into... Yeah, they were... Sidebars. He took off,

but he stayed in that lane. Like, beans versus blah, blah, blah. Like, that's industry shit. That nigga started talking... I was so glad. Fam, he... I'm glad they did that. Yeah.

Like, all jokes aside, because we don't know where he would have took this. Because even in that ish, I know you saying it was industry shit. For me, it was more into the psychology. It was industry shit for me it was more it was more

than psychology it was it was more info into the psychology of this madman that will never truly understand like that was such a great way that he broke down i feel like a lot i feel like me and this guy think similar shit i do man we just it just comes out it just comes out a little different but like when he started talking about when he started making his picks, they were all tough choices. Tough. But he said, yo, for me, it's the people that added to the ilk of it. When Scarface did this, it changed forever. When he rolled the words.

When such and such did this, it changed forever. They added to the flow of it. It just changed. changed originally that's when i appreciate you see now if you don't get that if you sheep it's tough but what he's saying is the same shit i said when keep sweat was battling bobby brown i know what you did, dog. But it's me. I'm me. My soul is just spread out all out through this shit. R&B don't exist today without my tiny contribution that the masses don't know is much bigger than tiny.

It's true. Right? But that's basically what he said. And then he got into it. And we gonna get into it. Nah, he wasn't playing. Before we get into that, I want to say that I, too,

am from the school of if I'm just saying the truth, it ain't no beef. Right. I agree with that. I agree with that a lot. I like that he said it. I kind of am suppressed

in thought because so many people feel like it's beef just saying how they think just saying the name is beef that's right right they think as soon as you hear it you say another person's name is automatically yo just saying the name ain't beef it's not me putting you in the text thread ain't beef me telling you that you copied my shit ain't beef it's just saying saying, yo, dog, you copying. What? And there's nothing wrong with that.

And then he credited the people, the forefathers to him of this, him, Cudi, Rocky, might have been another name. He said,

Travis, you my guy, you family to me, but you copying, boy. He said it. Yeah. He said, yo, he's a combination of me, Cudi, and Rocky. Right.

And it's true. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with it. It can still be great. We talk about that with all of, when we had our Nicki Minaj. We said, oh, you know, it came from Lil' Kim. Like, yes, people do take. That's what they supposed to do.

Exactly. You're supposed to take from there and build on it. If I'm a basketball player, I'm going to pull from Steph. I'm going to pull from this person. I'm going to pull from this person to try and get the best possible game. But I want to make myself clear for the audience out there that maybe has been here for a little while that can't really get what I'm – look at this. This is what I'm saying. Kanye can say this, and he could talk like this

if he's living up to kanye and the picture that kanye has for himself a big part of why i was I was extremely hard on this man. It's because I could hear in the music for a few albums. You wasn't on your shit, dog. Yeah. I was saying it. The public couldn't see it, but I could see it. You know the public said it. They didn't say it. They didn't say it.

No, they was shitting on the last couple albums. They didn't say it. Listen, when Pablo came out and pablo was a great album i said it on pablo i didn't wait i didn't i didn't say it on yeezus i didn't wait for the gospel shit i didn't say it over i said it when it was popping still but when you calling design and you're looking for that and i see what's going on over there i don't respect it really not from your brain we can't get the music that you make when you in your bag from nobody else. So when Donda came, I could hear that dog.

I could hear that dog. Guess what? You can't half-ass that. Came right in here and said it, right? Masterpiece. Yeah. It didn't, I didn't need to hear him say it, but boy was I glad that he said it. He said, yo, it's been a lot of niggas playing.

Donda would stop playing. That's what he said. Y'all didn't hear that? I heard it. No, him saying it. Y'all didn't hear that in Donda? Y'all didn't see it? Yo, that was what it was with Kobe's wife denying the license.

No, nigga, you can't use that. That's what I sat there and thought watching this. Yo, imagine the ideas that this psycho nigga had that he didn't get off. He made that look like that without that. Y'all have to stop playing with him. But only when he's him. See, that's where we get a little different. That's where I start looking at you like you said Tata looked at you, nigga.

Only when you you. Am I looking at you like that? You can't half-ass it and then come out and district you can't you can't you can't put this MAGA hat on and then come out and be surprised when niggas are angry at you well we angry at you not because you're republican but because that hat symbolizes some things and it's traumatic and triggering for some other shit it's not because you're a republican you think we don't know niggas that's republican right see but even in your creative genius that's why i was mad at you nigga find a new way then to represent that to find a new way to do it that's beneath you find a new

way to do it then rep that shit hey that shit you said about cutting your hair oh my god that shit was prolific yeah that got me that shit was prolific this genius just spoke to his spoke to who he is but that's what i mean about when dudes are them when dudes are them don't come out here with some shit that somebody else made with a slogan somebody else had that's triggering no nigga you you you can't even find a fresher way to do this because he wasn't even wrong when he said that hey y'all voted for shorty we ain't seen her since he got into that he never backed down from it that's what and that's when i was sat stuck in the bed because he didn't change his stance but boy it looked different it felt different him saying

what he's saying oh damn what the fuck did he say he said no no i'm still on that it just ain't no hat no he said it he said i got it i mean ain't no hat there's something we talked about i ain't doing that but i'm still on that i was like look how fly that sounded you don't have to agree with it take yourself out the mix take your environment take what you grew up on out the mix you don't have to agree with that but if you put yourself in the mind and shoes of him look how much flyer that sounded than anything he said at TMZ, in anything he said at Joe Rogan. Put us with us and let's talk about it. That's what needs to happen. Put us with us.

It's a conversation that needs to happen. And let's have the conversation. And when you're talking to us, you get an opportunity to really, really delve into why you feel this way. Right? So people will take the surface sentence. And we all know in the media, you can say 15 paragraphs, they're going to take the one triggering sentence and that's going to be the headline. Of course.

Most dodos don't read the real 15 paragraphs, they read the headline and that's what they run with. It's designed that way. Nigga, we hit today and we opened up a pod based on a headline. Right. Right? It's designed that way. Nigga, we hit today and we opened up a pod based on a headline. Right. We opened up a pod based on a 40-second clip that's been circulating all over the internet. With him, I think his brain is just so different that when you get an opportunity to speak to him and he gets an opportunity to articulate all his points and convey all his points, you'll be baffled.

Dog, I was fucked up. I'm a different type of'm a i'm a different type of nigga i'm a different type of thing this nigga had me sitting there like i think we yay like the thoughts come to his brain so fast and they're so like sporadic that while he's talking he thinking something else he thinking something else and it's coming off almost because i think that's what happens a lot he'll even when he was his Twitter shit, he'd say it and he's not saying it the way he's thinking it. He can't convey it in a manner. I do that a lot.

It's a lot of times where I'm thinking, even in here, I'm thinking it a certain way and this is live happening, so I'll be speaking and it's like, damn. It's hard to articulate when you got a lot of things going on. Especially when you're passionate about a certain subject. No, no, no, no, no, no. Stop, man. Stop, stop, stop, stop. Stop right there. Stop right there. Yes, that's true. It's hard to articulate when you got a lot of things going on. Especially when you're passionate about a certain subject. No, no, no, no, no, no. Stop, man. Stop, stop, stop, stop. Stop right there. Stop right there.

Yes, that's true. It's hard. But niggas' brains don't work like that. What you mean? Their brains don't process that fast. His brain processes differently than the normal brain. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

Yes, it's hard for the normal person to juggle a lot. That nigga's a genius bro his brain clearly times a lot but i'm saying it's plain as day it's like obvious it's jumping out that this person's brain operates differently than the normal person. And when that happens, you know what the normal person does or what societal standards will do? They will put you in some type of box. And when they put you in that box, it's going to provide some type of PTSD.

You heard them a million times say, yo, people I love, every time I say some real shit, they say, oh, it's the episode. Oh, it's manic. Oh, we need meds. Oh, we need pills. No, bitch. You don't get manic. Oh, we need meds. Oh, we need pills. No, bitch.

You don't get to tell me when I need meds because you don't even know. You think normal me is on some shit. No, nigga, my brain get weird. He said that shit.

Fam, this nigga said, a declaration of insanity is a form of censorship and control. I wrote that shit down because the second that you don't think like the masses, they stamp you crazy. What did Chappelle tell us?

He said on Twitter, they stamp you crazy. Exactly what he said. The minute with the Comedy Central shit, when he was like, yo, I'm off this shit, I gotta get out of here. First thing they did

was set up a crazy campaign. They set a crazy campaign. Yeah, he went on Twitter and said yo Chris Jenner stop playing with me stop sending doctors over here to try to label me crazy

he said this this dude dog nah he different but this is the crazy part when you get to a certain level of financial freedom now you uncontrollable

right now he's uncontrollable like I was feeling scared for this nigga like throughout this interview like yo is he gonna keep going down the rabbit hole you heard what he kept saying yo they gonna kill me Bob Marley told me like yeah like that's where I was when he started talking to Michael Jackson

in the print dog I started being like, oh, fam, you got to chill out. And that's a shame that you got to chill out. But, again, he's at a place financially, if he's really worth $9 billion, he's at a place financially where I can say what the fuck I want to say. He talked about the games that the fucking companies is playing. When he talked about his Sunday Service album, he was like, yo, unless you type that in all the way. All the way. You will not find the shadow band at all. It won't pop up.

To the very last letter, it won't pop up. A lot of niggas might know that but won't say it. His little shadow band Randy went on. That shit was deep. Oh, man. Struck a chord with me. That shit was deep. And Nori even more struck a chord with me

by saying, what is that? What you mean? That was deep and nori even more struck a chord with me by saying what is that what you mean that was deep for me that was deep because while that may be common to me a lot of people don't never even heard there's so many people that are in the actual profession where it could don't know what that is. We out here thinking, yo, we got all the apps and the tools, and they thinking of new ways for you to not. Yep. Or no, to control you.

That's a form of control. Show you what they want you to see. No, or no. No, control. We're going to control you. Well, that's all intertwined. It just went to our last pod. Like, yo, fam, we can control you.

We'll learn you something, boy. Like, literally, we will learn you something, boy. Play around if you want to. No, he was going, dog. He was going. And I mean, for me, it was a lot more interesting because I know a lot of the names that they were just dropping. I really like the name drop counter that they had. That was hilarious.

I love that. No, let me tell you what he did. I missed a few names drop counter that they had. That was hilarious. I love that. No, let me tell you what he did. I missed a few names, but I love that. And this is what I think he set out to do. I think some of his things that he did, he had an objective. Like, fam, when you saying, yo, I'm sitting here talking to Elon, don't play with me. Yeah, I'm not letting you know. The CEO of Balenciaga came and picked me up.

Stop playing with me. Well, he made it a point. I'm separating myself from y'all niggas. Stop putting me in the same category as these people. Let me tell y'all who my living peers are. The people that I'm sitting eating dinner with. And the head of this company and this company, they used to work for me.

It's a really, really short list. You ran that down. They used to work for me. He made a point to say, yo, when Jay-Z and I hit all of them on the group text, I clearly said I'm worth more money to everybody in this text. Put together. Put together.

Jay was in the text. Like, stop playing with me. I think he went out his way to let us know, yo, no, no, no. It's me. It's me. You get what I'm saying? Like, yo, it's me. Even the shit when you start to-

Why is it frowned upon for people to say that? What? It's me. You get what I'm saying? Like, yo, it's me. Even the shit when you start to- Why is it frowned upon for people to say that? What? It's me. It depends on the context and what you say. They got to really be them to say it. No, I just think, I think it depends on the context and what you say it. Sometimes it's applicable

that you got to let a nigga know it's you. But when you keep saying it and you keep saying it, it's like, all right, nigga, you run into the ground, we know it's you. Right. You get what I'm saying? It depends on where you, when you're saying it. The context. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The context. Why are you firing back at me like this nigga, you run into the ground, we know it's you. Right. You get what I'm saying? And it depends on where you, when you're saying,

the context. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The context. Why are you firing back at me like this? If you're calling me crazy, but I'm worth more than all of you, how crazy am I? It's a possibility.

But if someone's just like shitting on you or making a joke at you and you say, yo, fuck you, I'm worth more than you, it's that guy, dog. He did.

He came in here and said what I told y'all a few weeks ago is that Drake is on a different stratosphere when it comes to selling records. Some of y'all didn't understand what I was saying. What I wanted him to do. He told you. What I wanted him to do, because he contradicted himself a tad bit.

When he starts talking about us as black men, we need to come together, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He says that, right? Then you wouldn't perpetuate the Drake shit. But what he did speak on is, fam, this nigga's talking about killing me. He's talking about taking, my kids gotta hear this nigga talking about killing they father on a song.

He's taking it too far. But then he did say, he did come back around and say, yo, this is professional rap. No, he was talking about the professional rap piece and how calculated it was.

He's like, even in that, you're not doing nothing to me, I'm not doing nothing to me I'm not doing nothing to you it was profound we are worth too much money to too many people

too many people make money off us yeah like ain't nobody doing nothing that point was profound again

which part the professional rappers what was profound about it too we worth too much money when men like him

are able to explain certain very nuanced things on a kindergarten level, it's profound to me. His framing of what professional rap means to the people who would have no idea by design was perfect. He said things that I've been trying to tell people for years and it just never went.

The strategy of the way that they've been barbing, throwing barbs at each other? You wouldn't get it because it's professional now. This ain't mixtape time. Right. He explained it.

He said, it's Drake with a team at Science War. He said, yo so y'all buy a house down the street sending dms i'm buying real estate dm everybody in your family all it's much deeper than see and when you put that to the public consumption with people that don't understand you know what they get they get oh joe just rapping away rapping his little heart out he's just rapping to the air no I'm rapping to the biggest

artists in the world to say get off me with my best weapon and like he said and I don't have the resources that you have it's different and like he's

it's different and you kind of said this before too when you were talking to Drake like just like Kanye said we're professional rappers y'all might not get what we saying but you and I

know what's going on he said it like I'm talking to you in a way that when you hear it that's professional you know what I'm saying that's a

casual listener it might go right over their head that's an assassin or they might think it's just a bar the way that it's designed it's not for the public to know that the assassins

are the assassins because then you would be scared it would cause civil unrest if you walked out your house and knew every killer like you could see him like you knew who was who it would cause civil unrest that little hitler point that he made when they came to get hitler they set up the fake tank here they did this over here you know how much you had to do bin laden same like you had to do shit like you can't just come out and fuck with niggas that are that professional i know that to to be able to explain that to a civilian let's say is was beautiful that was beautiful

how many times have y'all heard joe say yo you know what's beautiful about retirement for some reason really ticks me off when they started calling me a rapper. How many times have you heard me say that? How many times have you heard me say when people call me a rapper for some reason, it's offensive to me. It is. It puts me in a box.

It puts a ceiling over me. It makes them look at me a certain way. Yo, I know y'all want me to rap again, but even if I rap, don't fucking call me no rapper, nigga. You know how much more than that I am? Yeah, it even if i rap don't fucking call me no rapper nigga you know how much more than that i am yeah it does he said yo they call you rapping you a nigga uh-huh yep and rap i said well that's it no no no that gets right to the point he did he said

yo right but wait stop stop back to why parks asked me why i think he was so profound in the professional rap no period yeah but I was oh yeah and this is oh I got it but yeah and this is in that

professional rap point hey y'all I'm telling y'all because I'm worth more than everybody than your CEOs stop fucking calling me a rapper

and they still look at me like a nigga like a rapper like a nigga he explained it better to me than jay-z saying yo dog i'm still having a hard time purchasing property and art because still nigga and jay killed that explanation kanye explaining it was different and i really hope that that was understood i really hope i do But that's how deep it is for me.

I think it was understood and a lot of y'all are okay. I'm positive. I think a lot of y'all are okay. Out of this interview, no one's going to get the nuance. They're going to get the Big Sean, the Just Blaze,

and the controversy shit, the Drake. This nigga said, yo, every single time I hear the word rapper, I think they're saying nigga. One, rapper as a genre of music has not really been accepted by the powers that be in the masses. No, it's been accepted as a genre. We haven't been.

No, we ain't been. But because you're a rapper, you get put down there. Yes. If I'm Celine Dion and I sold 100 million albums, I get revered. If I'm fucking Lil Baby and I sold 100 million albums, they look at him like a rapper. They look at her like a grandiose artist. He said he was at the game and they put him on the Jumbotron and they said hip-hop artist. Hip-hop artist. And he's like, fam, I'm not that.

It's the reason no one has to explain to me why one podcast will get 100 million and I won't. Nobody has to explain that. If you just read the fucking TV, you know what's going on out here. He went crazy. He did that. I don't want to say crazy because I don't think that he should be labeled crazy. You know what we mean by crazy, though. He went there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did what he had to do through this entire, entire interview. This fed my soul in a way that the sports shows I be watching in the morning, it didn't. I was real motivated. I was really motivated. And I felt satisfied. I felt gratification. I be telling people that may not have made it to the level that I've made it to

that you're going to experience some of the same things that you're experiencing now. And it sounds like jargon when I say it. And I'm aware of that. I know it sounds like bullshit. You don't want to hear that shit. You want to get here and see it yourself. You don't want to hear somebody tell you what it's like up there. But listening to him, see, I appreciate it.

I appreciate when people do that when people that's going where you want to go where you want to be say hey dog it's the same shit some of that shit is up here too i'd be like i feel gratified like i feel really good when i go to bed at night like now this may be off topic i don't think so But when I go to bed now, as a multimillionaire, and I don't go outside, I think about the nights that I didn't go outside broke. And the reasons why. Hey, maybe Shorty's crew canceled. Hey, maybe tonight ain't the night over there. Like, you was trying something, but you didn't get it done.

Now you're just sitting at home thinking about how you can get to that bag, you can get your life to a better place hey there's no fun there's no fun happening so i'm gonna just chill it's mad nights where you think the same exact thing rich absolutely maybe you shouldn't go maybe you shouldn't go out there hey last part i talked about with alpo dying energy hey i'm not even touching the FDR. I'm not touching the Harlem River Drive. Right? Tonight ain't the night. This week ain't the week to touch Harlem. I got other shit to do.

Yeah. No, no, we're not doing that. No, he was talking, dog. He was talking. He was talking his talk. He was. He was saying a bunch of shit, though. Come on, let's get to some of the...

He was saying... The inflammatory... I mean, we're going to call it that. I don't think it was that. I think it was him just being honest. Like, why I can't be honest about you dudes? Why I can't keep it all the way real without y'all thinking it's smoke? Because everybody says it's smoke.

But that's the other psychological part. He said that about people that he had all the respect and love for in the world, too. He told us Hov was selfish. he just catered it different though like some of the shit he was saying is smooth he came he came with talib and john legend he felt the way about all those who went the way they went against him when he ran the manga shit right yeah not the manga shit when he ran for president no that's what he got up there on the pro-Trump shit. That's when niggas really, really started roasting him. It wasn't really about him running for president. When he got up there in open support of Donald Trump, and I don't even think Donald Trump,

it's what Donald Trump stood for and the supporters of Trump, what they stood for. It was more of a symbolic thing than I think Donald Trump the man, right? more of a symbolic thing than i think donald trump the man right when you get up there as a as a black hip-hop artist or as an urban black man that speaks volumes to people people was triggered by i'm i'm with hove it was it was just a hat though the hat was a symbol it was a symbol yeah that hat is a symbol it was a symbol i know but in your in your point, you could think that his stance was symbolic. So I just want to make it clear that hat, it was that. Like, I know a lot of dudes that voted Republican. I agree.

I ain't beefing with them. I'm talking about. If you running around with the hat looking puppety. Hugging on Trump, that's a different symbol. It just looks a little different. Now, as a rich dude, i do understand wanting a tax break and i do understand wanting your people home from jail like they act they're active in trying to get larry hoover pardoned let me go back to some of that too him saying that me and drake are worth

too much so we would never hurt each other yeah that's true that's true that's true we also not going to hurt each other because we're actively working together to get larry hoover released from prison he said that not just that the people behind the scenes the jay princes and them are not allowing these niggas to physically harm each other i was just with jay prince yesterday i'm with larry hoover's son like if you don't know how some of this stuff goes, he's telling you it ain't nothing, dog. It's nothing. Hey, not only is it nothing,

I'll just use some foresight and speculation here, not only is it nothing, you're going to see reconciliation at some point. And they're going to be working in conjunction for some common goals. We've been working together behind the scenes on some things it hasn't gotten to the music portion of that but we've been we've been working together know what else i learned here hov and dame gonna piece it up at some point seems like it's heading that direction yeah i think they're gonna they're gonna get at least amicable or high and byish at some point. I agree. Some waves will be made toward progression and not division.

I thought that was an astound point that he made. Again, just trying to get into his shoes when he said, that's what the people in power have done to me my whole life, just divided people that we needed together that loved me. They took my mom away from my dad. They took Hov away from Dame. You think I'm going to be that person moving forward? I'm going to bring everybody that I can together.

I like that shit. Me too. I love that shit. You know how many people out there I've brought together that pretend to hate me? Like, honestly, there has to be something said for the person that puts the minds together. He went further in case you missed it. He said, yo, that room, that room, it was me, John Monopoly. It was Virgil.

It was Shorty that worked here. Him that worked here. Virgil, it was Shorty that worked here. Him that worked here. I put together this room of minds greater than all. I'm not that great. But there's something to be said for me, the person that can put those minds in a room and get it done. Which is what he was trying to explain to the Balenciaga dude. Yeah, imagine that. See, the people watching don't know I know y'all don't know because I came out and told y'all all the

money I was walking away from and I saw all the things that y'all said and then I came in here and said yo do y'all know what I'm trying to do? Because if you know, I think the responses would be like a little different. Go up to somebody's house. It won't. I told them, no, I'm just telling you what I told them. And they told me I was stupid and shut the fuck up, Joe Budden. You're an evil ass nigga. We don't want to hear from you.

But I told them to understand what I was saying. Go to somebody's house. Go to someone's mansion. Ring the bell and ask for a piece. Ask for a piece of their home. Try to get a piece from them. Then you would kind of understand. So when he said, again, breaking really complex things down to a kindergarten. So when he said, I'm talking to the balenciaga dude and i'm trying

to explain to him the value of my pull not your brand the pieces i pause right pause pause it what it said to me was yo dog every conversation i have with the people i'm supposed to have them with is me telling brands that are the most successful in the world how i can be of service and value to them and when he said it a white folks not might not get it but as soon as he said my pull i understood exactly what he was saying and he went further hey the people see me and kim in balenciaga and then they go to the store and they say hey we don't see that stuff yeah because if you go to balenciaga you want me to tell you about what you'll see at balenciaga

i won't i'll tell you about my last time in the Balenciaga section of Bird Hall. I went to all my favorite brands, and Balenciagas were a favorite of mine, but then I walked by them, and right in the front, they had this big, stupid, goose-down astronaut jacket for five grand, the big, super fluffy,

it made you look like some shit, and I said, I like that jacket, though. I know you like it. I like that jacket, though. I know you like it. I like that jacket, though. You said something. The first time I seen it, that was months ago. I was like, yo.

You said, yo, I would smoke this shit. I like that jacket. I said, oh, we need another pull. No, when those guys have it. For 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 months, Balenciaga been putting anything oversized in front of our faces, expecting for us to buy it. We looking for this. We looking for the sauce.

And if your pull ain't it, even if you make it, if you're pulling it, then you should find value in the guy that can get that going. That is that is the conversation with powerful black people and powerful white people because of the history. And he went into that, too. He went into a lot of shit, man. A lot. I know, because my brain functions weird and it took me to rewind, listen,

dig back, look at his face, his hands. You know what it said to me that that nigga did an interview in gloves? What did it say? Please tell me what it said yeah i didn't get that one it was an extension of him telling us who his peers were

that's what it was for joe so you ever watch the murder docs first 48 or anything and the dude that has been planning to kill his wife for the past eight months just forgot to wear gloves and we got him he was meticulous everywhere in the murder but he didn't wear gloves and that's how yo so we traced him he smoked a cig he dropped it he dropped it and he went on about it and then we then we got him hey i think that was damn i watched so many docs i don't even remember but it was one doc i watched where they took a civilian and tried to get him down with the jewelry heist they plotted it for months the civilian dude went in there sat down spoke to the jewelry girl pulled out all expensive wedding rings and ran out but on But on the run out, when he planned

to grab the door with his sleeve so his prints didn't get there, he was just full of adrenaline. So he grabbed the door and then they found the print. And then they traced it to him. And then he planned this for a year.

And I turned my TV on and Kanye sat there with gloves on. It said to me you dealing with somebody who just thinks different. I'm not leaving my print here. I wanted to see what you was going to say.

Not only am I not leaving my print here but light my blunt for me. You know what I wanted to see? My man a kid I used to fuck with, he's a comedian. but light my blunt for me you know what i wanted to see so my man my man um a kid i used to fuck with he's a comedian right he's funny as shit dope comedian right and um he had a meeting and somebody another veteran comedian in new york city said he was disappointed by eddie murphy because when he met Eddie Murphy Eddie Murphy basically refused

to shake his hand like he acknowledged him he kicked it with him but he wouldn't shake his hand okay and a lot of people when you get to that certain level in that certain plateau niggas be big on energy and the transference of energies right and a lot of times being in somebody's presence is one, but when you physically touch somebody, this nigga's very well studied, bro. He broke that chakra shit down and started talking about how the 808 is sending the lower form.

That's the only thing I like about the interview. Don't diss 808s. Well, look, well, look, real quick, real quick. Before you change that point. I didn't get that he dissed 808s at all. I didn't even put two and two together until you said that.

But one thing I've noticed, if you look at all of them Roc Nation brunch pictures, anything with Hov in it, his hands is always in his pockets. Bruh, a lot of people don't touch.

I always was saying that. I'd be like, yo, Hov don't want to touch you, niggas. Like, every time you see Hov, his hands is in his pockets when he's around niggas like that. Strangers. I promise you, dog.

Like, when you get to a certain level, you're getting other information. Information is key. So, to your homeschool point, when you start getting a certain level of money, your information that's, you think Blue Ivy's learning what our kids are learning in school? No. The fuck out of here. The information that is available is different. He got different information.

But the point that you want. Wearing gloves from now on. But the point that you want with energy, that's my example of the print. Yeah, I got it. I'm not leaving a print. When I leave here, my presence is gone.

And actually, he said that too. He said, now is the quickest moment of our lives. Look, just that fast, that now is gone yeah it's gone already he went further into that thinking when he kept saying yo they're gonna kill me but guess what the interview's done he was like if i leave if i was such a simple sentence yeah that wasn't simple at all yo it might be up for me but it's done look that just now is there it exists in time

the dude man listen man listen man that nigga laughed the whole interview he smiled a lot in the interview he just felt like listen i'm home it was good to see him yeah it was for sure real we're doing all interviews i get the salacious part yet. Let's do that. Let's address that stuff. I wanted to address the part where he talked about the confines of housing. He smoked that. That shit was crazy. He smoked that.

But wait, the Dave Chappelle callback for me. Before you get started. Wait, wait. Before you get started. wait, the Dave Chappelle callback for me, before you get started, wait, wait, wait, before you get started, and that's what I mean about that Dave Chappelle genius callback that he did that

probably went unnoticed. He told us about why he's homeless, his idea of living versus societal construct of what owning a house means, right?

And then, however many minutes later he said i got gloves on could you light my blunt for me it was a genius callback right in front of our face he tried to give us examples yo i didn't have no drawers on this is my house this little bag so i'm at the balenciaga nigga and for the next day of next three days i had balenciaga drawers on that i didn't pay for yo the haircut the barber thought that he fucked me up so he wouldn't let me pay but like he was he yelled dog he was preaching and when he gave the examples and you might have missed it he preached it on genius level in case you were reading it over there like the niggas deep man it's this was great let's get to the salacious shit come on big sean stop it let me tell you before you start seeing that's my thing you got to recognize when you not niggas you're not niggas i don't what i

mean by that is not what kanye means when he tells us that we not him which I'll get to in my just blaze point he said hey just it's not me look where I am and look where he is hey get that out of here I don't care about that okay about that and just said I don't care about that hey I'm getting that out of here I don't care about that what I mean is as sensitive as he may be and boy he is but i guess if you exposed to that much you would be sensitive but sensitive is nuanced too that's a different podcast but sensitive is nuanced i'm i think i'm sensitive in a different way but uh fuck what was i just going on? Big Sean. Big Sean. Big Sean. Stop it. Let's break this down for a minute.

Let me tell you who Kanye is. Kanye is the guy that stands next to Michael Myers or whatever his name is and whatever year that is and says George Bush doesn't care about black people. It don't matter if he deviated from that and put a red hat on. It's the fact that he did it. You know he'll do it. If I seen you fight 10 niggas before, I don't never have to see you do that again. Know why? Even if you lost. I saw you do it. You did it. I he'll do it if i seen you fight 10 niggas before i don't never have to see you do that again know why even if you lost i saw you do it you did it i saw you do it that's who kanye is everybody ain't that and everybody got a platform today you niggas all got socials you pull your little phone out you can post in 20 different places Y'all could say what you want to say.

Big Sean, you're not going to do that. He even spoke on that. Most people are not going to do that. He gave Michael B. Jordan an example. He was like, yo. And Kevin Hart. And Kevin Hart. I would love to say what you, I can't.

No, you can. Big Sean, when you meet an entity like this, when you meet a force like this there is nothing that the likes of you can do if you try to match that cause it's not

originally you so when I read it I don't like it I don't like Big Sean saying and look that energy I'm on energy still

big on energy Kanye it's different energy I'm on energy still big on energy Kanye it's different energy that nigga did an interview big Sean didn't hear it yet and said oh he gotta be talking crazy up there nor he asked me to do an interview Sean gotta be

Kanye gotta be talking crazy you just dropped a project think about that think about that for a minute think about it good point you just dropped the project think about it yeah but think about it i ain't gonna try to convince you i'll be just think you dropped the project that's the first that's where your mind went first i'm not gonna try to convince you you just dropped the album with the hottest producer in the universe you didn't even hear what was said but you got a good inclination some might have been said industry though yo yeah stop stop stop stop stop i'll take it further then i'll take it further since it's industry you're right it's industry so shit get funny sometimes now's industry. So shit get funny sometimes.

Now the Kanye interview drop. And what does Big Sean say? You guessed it. Oh, I can't wait to do Drink Champs. He did. And that right there is the difference between Kanye West and Big Sean.

Expound. Both may be sensitive gentlemen. But the one that's just thinking whatever. I'm saying what I'm saying casually. I got to go get with Elon Musk soon after. I got, yo, this is small talk. As a cig smoker, you can recognize small talk. Because niggas love that, and I hate it.

You go outside to smoke your little cig, here come a nigga, man, it's freezing out here, right? Yo, nigga. Yo, dog. Yo, dog. What made you think that I want to talk to you right now? I came out here to get away from the small talk, in fact. I hate small talk, dog. Yo, that's what he says all of this, like, that little neither or both game that nori thought was

so monumental and it was but that was small talk for him that was yo i don't fuck with uh sean not only that that was the worst business decision that i've ever made see i heard that and i didn't hear nothing personally said he didn't attack that man's character he didn't attack who he is who he was their relationship and later and later on he went on to say sean is family that told you about the person you're dealing with sean is family this is what he did jay is family this is his selfishness is what it is hey damon's family white boy watch him out like he's telling you how you move it don't have to be out of your family pamphlet of how to move with your family it ain't that it may be

unconventional but it ain't say nothing wrong to fucking Big Sean we just in this place where oh you can't do that you can't do that he didn't call him a sellout

I didn't hear that I think he might have called John Legend he said that's sellout shit he said John Legend and uh John Legend and uh

Carmen not Carmen not Carmen Talib Talib excuse me John Legend and... Common. Not Common. Not Common. Talib. Talib, excuse me. John Legend and Talib were puppets for the Democrats. He said it differently.

Okay. He didn't say it the same. He said it a little different about Common, Chicago's own, one of his favorite and best rappers of all time. He said it differently. He said it with some respect. He said everything that he needed rappers of all time. He said it differently. He said it with some respect. He said everything that he needed to say, just sometimes he said it with respect and a little bit of sugarcoating. And that's sugarcoating.

And sometimes he didn't. It's different. Like when he said what he said about Kweli not being in the same tier as Common, when you think. Rapping? He's not. He's not. He's not. Nor... No disrespect. Nor...

But wait. Further than that, nor should he be. Carmen has multiple classic albums. He does. Whatever y'all go to with Carmen, I'm not here to do that right now. It's a matter of opinion.

But when he said it, how he landed there didn't seem like it was from the shade of i don't fuck with quality quality it seemed like no wait stop though i have history with this guy no i'm not blinded by no i disagree i'm not blinded by that was personal yeah he had a little sauce for talent basic answer to the question, I think, was a respectful way to end it. Common is common.

It's not a respectful way. No, it was disrespectful. That was not respectful. It was not objective. His personal feelings about him come out in that answer and saying that they shouldn't be mentioned together. But they shouldn't be mentioned together. No disrespect to Talib.

But there was disrespect to Kuali. You can say that. Talib Kuali. How is that? But wait. I love it. He didn't say that. Talib Kuali. How is that? But wait. I love it. He didn't say that objectively. But I love it.

Wait. You mean the guy that was on your classic debut saying, you mean Talib, lyrics stick to my ribs? You mean you don't feel like that about him? Even that was a look. That was telling. Wait. Not Talib, who we all thought was like being crowned of sorts

when he was premiered on your album. That was like running the home plate when he premiered on your album. So for you to say this, this is what I be meaning about the ultra powerful niggas. You think they don't know how powerful their voice is? LeBron, no. Exactly. These niggas know. So when they say it, they just letting you know who I fuck with and who I don't.

And the fans out there are going to say, well, that was a little rough. But as somebody who has never publicly come on here and tell y'all the list of people I don't fuck with and that has seen the ramifications of that. Boy, that was admirable. What was? To say I don't fuck with. Telling people. Oh, no, no, you can say. That's two totally stop let me say

what i'm saying first telling people about people from your past and people who are assumed to be integral parts of your history that hey i don't really fuck with that person like that so some of the things you see you may be seeing it because i don't really fuck with that person like that and you and i have a lot of conversations behind the scenes of a lot of faces that get saved by niggas just coming in here and not saying a word indeed but you see the cost that comes with that no hey stop don't say wait wait wait no don't stop let me say something real quick hey i came out the closet popped right up now mind you again i don't count my molly years you don't count we were both in vulnerable places you was young i was young it was wild

shit going on i do not count that right and she came right up the time and said we hear you and said sorry hey i always knew that about him wish him the best see she said that yeah see she tried to be shady and then I was stuck standing on my bisexualness wow if I was bisexual you would use my sexual preference to be shady

you the same nigga that went in the house full of strangers and made it seem like i was some violent violent out of control thug i've never been that no it's some people it's some people ish i don't know that is some people that are group thinkers indeed there are some people that don't have the ability to even process this kanye interview the way that we talking about it they don't i agree the trend is to see what the trend is and that's why you have all of these people hopping up when joe comes out of the closet you know the first thing i said i should have told the public

when i stopped fucking with her because that would let the public know why some of that stuff is happening somebody else popped up said some shit first thing i said wow now i see the advantage and maybe letting the public know when you don't fuck with somebody like we try to keep it cool and classy and Michelle Obama, when they go low, we go high. But the other side of that is, yo, if I just let people know... You'll be the first to tell

and then you'll get the comments. Then they would know. It ain't even necessarily being the first to tell either. It's just... Yo, I've been sitting here for months saying, hey, something's funny about Wayne and Sean.

I mean, not Wayne. Yeah, Sean. Yeah. Hey, something's going on with Ye and Hitboy. They keep going back and forth in interviews. Saying it for months. So to finally come out and say it. See, and that's my beef with Sean.

If you had something to say, nigga, say it. Don't wait until the nigga that says things. Says things. For you to say things. My go. Because if not the case, then move around. No, that's my go. Please.

Sometimes some people try to keep it classy. Right? Big Sean just did, said some shit two weeks ago and he's like, yo, that's family, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I miss them niggas or whatever the case may be. Stop it. I'm still speaking right so now i'm not going to throw

family business out that stays in house some niggas look at it like it stays in house now you're gonna get on the public platform you're the biggest artist in the world arguably and now you're gonna throw slander on my name So we don't even know what Sean's going to come on Drink Champs and say. He might come on Drink Champs and say, yo. Don't say shit. That's not for you to say. Don't say a fucking word. Don't choose.

Why? I'm lost at that part. House bill privilege information. No, you don't have to. But I am. Let me finish my stance. Go ahead. So we don't know what he's going to say.

We can only judge him after he says whatever he says. But he might come on and say, look, dig, this is what happened. Boom, boom, boom, boom. He feels a certain way based on X, Y, and Z. Right? So we don't know. Hey, go back. Scroll back.

Scroll back. What the stance may be. And this says, and this is breaking news. This is from OVO Goon Life. I don't know who that gentleman is, but I'll read this. Kanye owes Big Sean $3 million and said he gives sean his masters too which he never ended up doing and sean never complained about either publicly he's just too nice what if that's true then it's true and sean replied and said not three more like six then it's then it's true okay so now if it's true how dare you get on a public platform, nigga, and say something about me. Fuck you.

If it's true. Then I respect it. Hey, if it's true, it was true three weeks ago. I know, but it's messy if I get up there and say it and it's childish and it's corny. If it was true, it was true a month and a half ago. A month and a half. If Sean says that, Joe, you say, yo, that's messy. Keep it in-house. No, I don't.

No, I don't. All right. that joe you say yo that's messy keep it in house no i don't no i don't all right if he does that then i applaud his method of doing what he thinks is best to get his masters back what i will never that might not have been it though true but what i'll never respect is the nigga that was scared to say a fucking word until a nigga that wasn't scared to say a word said a word and you know i'm never oh whoa whoa whoa i'm never sorry i'm never respected okay i'm never respected money money and children and lifestyle play a part in how you conduct business and how you navigate life that is a truism for all of us all of us make decisions based on money at some point in time. Kanye West is at a point where money doesn't dictate

none of his moves. Right? So we all have made moves against the bag. You've made moves against the bag. I've made moves against the bag.

I'm sure everybody has. Right? But at the end of the day, still, we got mortgages to pay. We got rent to pay, whatever the case may be. Big Sean, I don't know him,

never met him. He may have an agenda where yo i'm gonna play nice in hopes that i get my bread and get my masters i'm not gonna go out and just shoot at this nigga because that could have financial ramifications you're totally right so that's how it might be why he's navigating in a manner in which he's doing but now after this nigga comes out and publicly disses me that's where you lose i know and then he told me now i know we have no chance no chance at reconciling but he don't here's here's what kind of give me about that and then sean puts the fight but wait and then sean puts the picture up and say yo we was i was just with this nigga and i was

just with you after the interview that meant absolutely nothing but i'm saying it means a lot that meant nothing because if you don't fuck with me what's up he didn't say stop he and that's what i mean about people saying what they mean he didn't say i don't fuck with you he said you were the worst business decision of my life he didn't say business decision he said signing that's a business decision i know but it could be for a bunch of different reasons he said i don't he said that was and boarded to the table one second because I'm stuck on what Joe said. Kanye's words, both John Legend and Big Sean,

when I ran for office, got used for the Democrats, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I don't rock with neither of them. And I need my apologies, but niggas is scared. Don't tell somebody you don't rock with me

and take a picture with me right afterwards. No, you're hanging with me. And you hang out with me. Don't do that. So that's, I get where Sean is like, yo, what the fuck is up?

That's silly. I've been in plenty of places where someone couldn't that. So that's, I get where Sean is like, yo, what the fuck is up? That's silly. I've been in plenty of places where someone couldn't take a picture. Yeah, I've taken pictures with mad niggas that I didn't rock with. But you telling niggas I don't fuck with him.

I'm not taking a picture with you if I don't fuck with you. They were posing for a picture. It was just some shots of someone. But he didn't say I don't fuck with you. But I'm hanging with you.

He ain't hanging with him. All right, dawg. Y'all got it. No, you ain't got it. He said I don't fuck with him. He said that.. Y'all got it. No, you ain't got it. He said, I don't fuck with him. He said that. They just quoted it. In nigga words, he said, I don't fuck with you.

I appreciate that. Cool. I love that. I love it, too. No, I love that. I love when the actions match, though. And now you want to come out and tell me why you don't fuck with me back? No, no.

I just love when the actions match. I just love when the actions match. You don't fuck with me. Don't fuck with me, then. Period. Yeah don't fuck with me. Don't fuck with me. Don't fuck with me then. Period. Yeah, straight up. Period. Don't fuck with me.

Don't keep key with me. Don't hang out with me. Don't pat me. You don't fuck with me, don't fuck with me. I don't think that Sean seeing, that Ye seeing Sean at an event and having a conversation with him means that he is prohibited from saying, yo, that nigga was really the worst signing I've had. I'm off that signing part, dog. I'm off that signing part.

Yeah, but Sean ain't. He said I don't fuck with him. Fuck that. Fuck the signing. All right, yeah, worst business to sign. It didn't work out. Okay, cool. Have you ever changed somebody's life and then seen them behave in a way that just wasn't nothing

like the person absolutely no i have let me talk please i have and even that wasn't to the degree that he began to speak on he said yes i changed your life and i've changed a lot of lives pro bono on the strength rock out he went on to say i changed your life and your family's life that was him telling me a times at a million hey whatever you think you did whatever you fucking feeling when niggas did some bullshit after you did that shit times it by a million and then see what you would say if you was nine billion up sunday do y'all want to know what i let me talk to ish if i'm nine billion up and that were to happen and we got to having a real honest conversation some of the ones we have off this mic about how some of these bitch-ass niggas move out here huh huh you know what i would say about how some of these bitch-ass niggas move out here and i still feel like that some of the niggas that we talk about being a

bitch-ass nigga i still think they a bitch ass nigga. You know what I would say right now? I ain't cutting you off. I would tell them, hey, him is a bitch ass nigga. It's my goal. Hey, let me tell you why. You contradicting yourself. Tell me why. Because you just

said, and don't cut me off, yo. Right now, if that's what you feel, it shouldn't take nine billion dollars for you to do that you just said if i got nine billion i'd say hey him right there he's a bitch ass nigga it should not no no no don't point your fucking thumb at me yo it should not take that's why i love ish because he's so smart he'll help me prove my point in a way that I didn't think about. You're right. So now my new question to you is,

how many times do I have to come in here and stop me from saying, yo, dog, this is what the fuck is going on in here. And it's up for such and such. And if I'm crazy and it's up, the nigga is up. Hey, roll it out. Say, Bon, write it out. And y'all niggas say what? Nah, chill.

Yeah, he right. So you right. No, he's right. I agree with his point. It don't take a dollar for me to come in here and do it. That's what Dave Chappelle said. Yo, stop talking to me. I walked away from 50 of them, dog.

I ain't like y'all. I sat in bed like I walked away from 20 or 30. Wasn't such a big deal, but I walked away from it. Yeah, you can't. If you never been there, dog, you can't talk to me about it. What I'll say 30 M's up, I'll say dead ass broke and live with the results. And live with the results. These niggas think I came out the closet because the ratings was falling.

I went and checked it to make sure. I called ENS. I called Ian and asked, hey, yo, dog, come over. Come on. Hey, I know you're engaged, your little wife. Let's crunch some numbers. Ian, you've been fishing.

You've been doing a lot of shit. Do me a favor, dog, in the morning time. Come see me. Come see me. Come see me. Pulled him right. He's laughing.

Hey, I pulled him up. All the shit I had planned out to yell about, I couldn't even yell. It was right there Those was the straight numbers Those niggas are scared of it now No way

Hey Don't worry about it What Okay Don't worry Look Ice befuddled Yeah He got dudes

That's checking for the boy That don't befuddle me He got niggas They can check for you He got niggas That's checking for the boy. That don't befuddle me. They can check for you. He got niggas that's checking for the boy. They can check for you. No, no, they can't, nigga. Don't send your little broke-ass friends my way.

You think I came out the closet to fuck for free? I'm not here for that. It's not about love? I didn't come out here for the love fest, buddy. Coming out here for the rich buy, niggas. You're nuts, bro. That's all I can say is you're nuts. And congratulations again.

I didn't think I was out here with a broke fucking bye, nigga. Nigga, if you don't get your ass on, I ain't here for an ice cream date, nigga. Take me to motherfucking Mr. Chow. You tell I'm old, right? All right, come on, man. Listen. all right come on man listen perfectly worded question by nori to me that whole ill will noz name's album and the disrespect of the album it's disrespecting a friend how do you feel about entitling your shit donda and niggas

dissing the art but it's seeming like it's dissing your mom perfectly worded question first thing out his mouth was clb telling this entire interview that happened you could see his healthy or unhealthy obsessions and then earlier he spoke about it he was like yeah not the taylor swift shit that was both my uh addictions on full display. That was my alcoholism and my need for attention or whatever he said. So later on when he got into it, it was like, yo, this dude. I didn't take that that way.

His answer to that question being an addiction to his healthy or unhealthy addiction with the Drake situation. I didn't take it that way at all. Then you missed. I must have missed it because his example was he said, no,

but what happened, they were asking a bunch of football players. And both of the albums just simultaneously came out. Which album and some were saying this. So that was just the example of where the fuck Donda would come from. Not at all. He just landed in a place to let you know me and Drake have pieced it up and we're working together behind the scenes to get something done. He answered in a way where it said that.

But if you listen to his answer and you listen to the interview, he brought Drake up a million pieces where Drake didn't need to be brought up. That was just the icing on the cake. Oh, shit, nigga, we asking you about your mom and the album titling and you went to Drake. It says something to me to me his healthy obsessions he mentioned that virgil shit a lot he did on here when virgil got the job at louis do y'all know do y'all know how and it should see we don't get into that because it's not our business and we not at that level that should bother someone if you best friends with somebody you go over to a company come up with a fucking

idea the company loves it negotiations fall out you come up with some other idea you try to bring your friend along but your friend goes to the company for the deal that you turn down and pushes some shit that that would bother the average person. He just can't talk about it like it bothers him because he's not the average person. But if you listen to him talk, he clearly is telling you just how much it bothered him.

I've heard him say it in interviews. Just how much it bothered him. And he couldn't show no emotion in it. He had to show up when Virgil got appointed. He had to show up and get a nigga to fake hug on stage and all of that. He said, look how they talk to me. Virgil got the Louis deal. You got the Gap deal.

What he said is, oh, y'all don't even see what I'm trying to do. Y'all don't even see it. Remember when Stephon Marbury came out with the sneaker that cost like $15 and got killed? Same. Same shit. Same thing. Steph Curry with the Under Armour? Please, them shit's got pricing. Not the same.

Shaq and Steph. They got pricing. Shaq did it. Yeah, Shaq did it. But it's the same thing and his explanation of it, but when you let that cluttered brain explain things in an unorthodox setting it all sounds orthodox it all makes all the sense in the world if you're not putting him in the next to michael myers next to the white dude from tmz next to joe rogan next to kim kardashian next to chris jenner next to fucking lucian grange next to if you stop putting somebody that shouldn't be

next to people next to people you could just view them in the appropriate light you could stop looking at them in tandem in combination with something else that tricks the tricks the system it tricks you i say all this fucking stupid shit hey, I say stupid shit here. We laugh. He say stupid shit. He say, hey, Shakespeare came up with 30% of the English language. Why are we talking like this? That sounds like a just really stupid thought. Why do you even think that?

But if you just sit around and think, you know, when he when he said, you're the only thing all of us have in common is our interpretation of what they told us time was. Listen to it again. I hit rewind. No, I different. I hate rewind. I mean, it's a deeper version of, hey, we all get the same 24 hours. But that's corny. That's corny because that's just somebody telling it to sheep.

That's a cliche. When somebody's trying to explain it to sheep, boy, it's different, man. It's different. It is different. This has been an entire two hours full of Kanye West, and I think that it was about seven or eight hours short of what it needed to really get into. Because you could break down all of his, yo, dog, he was shooting. He was. He was saying a lot of shit.

And he know he was. That's why he kept saying, oh, y'all thought I was going to come up here and try not to get killed? Once Nori jumped in. I'm here to shoot. Yeah. Once Nori jumped in and started turning it

into more of a music conversation, then it lightened it up. But he was saying some shit. I would like to hear a music nerd out. I like that, starting to i like starting to music nerd a lot and then got derailed in that music nerd shit it was yo i don't even acknowledge you if you didn't inspire me yeah yeah that's what i said if you didn't inspire any of the greatest because i'm the greatest then why am i even talking to you even when they tried to make him choose between dame and jay his explanation of it was very telling into the mind of him no well it's dame 100 it's quick it's it's i gotta think about

because dame is but i'm just i'm just only talking about his brain works he loved them too like no other so for him to split it and say dame is the visionary hove is the creative genius i'm a combination of both of them you know how great he think he is so even that was yeah it's dame but it's them yeah because i'm them he did the same thing with his parents yeah he said my dad is where you see the nobility. Any nobility you see, that rare shit that's not so spread out, it's my dad. My love for the arts and being creative and the education

system and the schools and community, that's my mom. I feel like that when I start getting on my integrity shit. Some of that shit is where the fans start thinking, oh, he's loco, he's a lunatic. They don't get it. They don't know when the integrity is hitting

because they don't know when it's applied and why it's applied. But when that's happening, it's dad, man. Dad is a nutcase. Dad is the nigga that, fam, you can put whatever money, white person, any opportunity in front of him.

If we're not going to sleep right at night, then that's what it is. And if you thought he might have been lying he went further when he said my dad is steve jobs no he says my dad is the real steve jobs yeah he fucked him up well i know how you feel about steve jobs because you've only told me for years i ain't heard too much about you and your dad but for me hearing this right now he going to cry when he started talking about his father and how he just got to a point where he realized what happened. When he broke down, hey, this is what dad was doing and this is what mom is doing.

I don't know if any of y'all have had these thoughts about your parents, but I certainly have. I had some thoughts about what mom was doing when she met dad, what dad was doing when he met mom how they even began talking how they separated how they maybe didn't get along how my dad had aspirations of being in a band or being a musician and so forth and so on and what a brain like his y'all think my mouth is wild what if my dad would have fucking got some success back in the day and then i was the offspring of that the way that my son is today

whatever my son is experiencing out there from dad being a wild cannon for 20 years what would i have been able to do with that like dad you didn't achieve it but you achieved it just simply by me coming out of your dick like he got deep and he went on hey today my dad is responsible he's got a water facility over in Brazil. He's got this over there. He told you some of the Kanye things that dad was doing, because it's not Kanye things. It's dad.

It's really dad. And you just doing the remodeled version of that. Man, man, man. Yo, check this out, dog. I'm off of this interview, because I don't do interviews about interviews. Yes, I do. Yeah, we do. I do.

That's cool. Only when it's like that. I was just going to say, this has to be done this way. This is different. This is culture shift. I won't call it interview of the year

because I won't lie to y'all like I've seen all the interviews. It's like when niggas talk about album of the year, y'all didn't hear all the albums. Y'all just saying what your favorite shit was.

I didn't see all the interviews. This was compelling yo this interview made me wake up at 5 a.m and turn it on and had a first take sports center good day new york good morning america the view wendy whatever the fuck you want to put there whenever you put this on this is what it is and that's the other part that i'd be telling all of the companies out there do y'allall think it's just Joe that notices that? Let me ask y'all this. Do y'all think I'm that genius and I'm that prolific?

That I'm the only one that notices when some real culturally relevant hip-hop shit goes up there that it feeds the soul differently? I'm not. So when you ask why it's not going out there but it was that it's revolt

black owned nori black family culture history black it's just black littered all the way through so it is 100 oh no you said hip-hop that i was saying this is some life shit oh no yeah no he was talking some it's framed in hip-hop but that's his issue that's my issue we framing shit in hip-hop just because of classism and racism but it ain't hip-hop shit don't call me no rapper that's the thing what do i have to accomplish hey at the end of my spotify deal i was left saying what numbers get you a deal yo what do you have to do as a black man to get the deal that y'all see what it is it's there we don't have to manipulate it if you're not giving it to me at this point

i know why and you don't have to say it'll just go unsaid he's saying the same yo dog watch it again watch it again with new eyes try to watch it with his eyes hard to do when you try i said try it's tough it's tough for me and i i think my brain ain't too far off but it's tough it was tough for me too because he has just been exposed to so much man shit i'm done i'm done i apologize if this was a bore to you But I live and breathe I'm not sure how this could be boring to anybody I live and breathe this And when things like this happen

They should be highlighted Pointed out Nori keeps saying Yo what we do here is we give people our flowers I got real pissed in bed Cause who the fuck is giving Nori his Word I got really mad

EFN2 EF mad. EFN 2. EFN 2. EFN 2. EFN 2. That whole team. Yeah, no doubt. The team that is aware enough to know we need security on some days for niggas to come over here, that person need to be applauded.

I came here too many times. I told you that big Migos incident on the BET red carpet with me and academics, why that really came about. Because I went to Complex and said, yo, me and Ak are the two wildest mouths in the universe, and if you're going to put us on BET red carpet with me and academics why that really came about because I went to Complex and said, yo, me and Ak are the two wildest mouths

in the universe and if you're going to put us on a red carpet with every artist, we probably need security. They said no. I didn't know that. That's why the Migos thing

happened, Dice. When that Migos thing happened, I was trying to explain to people that weren't of culture how fast a fight can break out and and or in our culture i was trying to explain to people that have no idea about that yours a little how some people might feel no not behind the scenes behind this but yo the public

persona of joe is very different from business joe behind the scenes there's mad companies that know joe just do great business it's not a problem no we're what you want we get it done or we can't we'll tell you it's fluid communication it's fluidity it's uh fluidity going on there only publicly do we get into some of the firecrackers that go on because the public has never respected me as a producer so when i proposed it to hearing on the final episode of love and hip-hop it just looks like joe as talent, as nigger, has made himself look away. It don't look like Joe, in combination with super producer Mona Scott, is producing. Mona Scott pushed these numbers to the moon. It don't look like that to them.

I've had a lot of those. Damn, I forgot the point I was getting at. Well, before you do that. You're giving me glorious flowers. Hold up. You're giving me glorious flowers, dog. Wait a minute. Back to that Migos incident.

Oh, that's the point that we was on. Trying to convince people that's not of culture what's going on. And they went and got some $20 security guard that stood up 30 seconds too late. I was almost close to snuffing and killing this little nigga that was extra tough that day because my security wasn't on point. Because we asked Complex for security and they sent a $20 security guard against the Migos, the group that was winning group of the year at the time, and the security that them and Coach K and them would bring.

Do you think I want to start the fight then? But look. No. Let me ask you a question. You think I want to start the fight? Hold on, hold on, hold on. No, you hold on. You think I want to start the fight when Raekwon and six niggas come in

and it's just me, Frequency, and fucking Mickey Fax? You can't start the fight no but look do you think that this company you know how these niggas chase the the incident they've been like let the fight happen good no it's not true well not this particular company because because then you get into they move that way because then you get into. You have to gain understanding of these things. Liability. At the BET

Awards red carpet under no condition can we have the group of the year fighting with Joe Budden or any media member here. That can't happen. On the Kanye shit, love and hip hop. Consequence. I told him on national television

I'm gonna get you before we leave the building the public didn't take anything from that but I meant that I was serious so when it happened and it aired differently I called up the big wigs hey dog why you ain't hear that other shit and they said for liability

would you have wanted us to or would you like us to protect you oh yo you know he went somewhere and said I did that cause it was you it was you.

It was 100%. It was Ice. Ice the goon. It was a bald bearded nigga doing some shit right in front of Madison Square Garden like an idiot. That was you.

You lost your phone. The video, I didn't get a clear image of the perp. But it looked like Ice. It's Ice-ish. It was Ice-ish. It wasn't Ish. There you go. the perp but it looked like ice it's ice or shit it was ice and ish it wasn't ish it was ice and ish

it wasn't Joe whoever it was it wasn't Joe liability but liability but liability liability it's big business

I got tire insurance on my last three Mercedeses. When I go in there with a tire issue, they get mad. So I say, what the hell you mad about? And then if they cool with you, they'll explain it to you. Hey, dog, it's kind of a fight between us and the insurance company when we say such and such is wrong with the tire. The insurance company don't really give a fuck.

They need to see a little more. No, it don't be a fight when I gave you all my $2,500 for this fucking tire. Never a fight. Never a fight there. But it's a fight now if you've got to get the actual tire fit. We've got to prove it. We've got to prove it. And one day I said, oh, so insurance is to insure them.

prove it and one day i said oh so insurance is to insure them if i have to do all of this for them then this is only to insure one half of this party yeah but you gotta go through that before you know that the whole new jersey just flooded my nigga you know how much flack they giving niggas on giving them that money? I have a good friend who's coming to me today, now, saying, yo, the government is giving out some type of loans and there's no insurance. I mean, no interest required at all. I only need a cosigner. I seem like the perfect cosigner good on paper credit is up

money is up could show a pay stub or whatever that bullshit is this is somebody that's that's I love like family to me that you got to look at in this instance and say no and then they won't understand it now you forced to explain to somebody who makes $50,000 a year what the government is going to do when you attach your rich name to that and the problems that could cause your rich ass. So you're going to stay away from that.

Know what that person is going to walk away thinking? You fucking fuckity fuck. It gets deep. It gets deep. just your interpretation of insurance or laws or government or just it all gets deep and he even went into that i'm done with him because he went into all of this no he he went into just being a human but y'all concerned with racism and we all just beams a light really like he started i'm done with him i'm done with i'll tell you what i took from the entire thing i'm a yaste yeah this nigga gets he gets around he gets he gets my here i'm here now my bad i'm a

fan i'm a fan you lost me for a little bit but i'm back i'm here i'm here i'm back you're gonna lose me every time he trash see but him dropping him dropping Donda for Joe was the equivalent of him hopping the group text and saying, I'm worth more than all y'all. See, he may need to do that as an insecure man that made it. And I heard a lot of that as he told his story. It was a bunch of insecurity in his thing. Yeah, but how he channeled it was crazy. No, you know what it was, too? thing yeah but how he channeled it was crazy no you know what it was too you can hear his need for validation and acceptance you can hear it throughout the message the name dropping was that

nigga i'm kicking it with elon call him by his first name's elon it's also marketing the ceo of valenciaga that's always been him even in his verses that's been him but for me the CEO of Balenciaga came to my hotel it's also marketing because the way

that you get away from people referring to you as a rapper when you're sitting on the side of the court is start reminding them

check this out I'm up here I'm over here ain't no rappers over here this ain't rapper like when Hov said they got me in the got me in the

but not with the entertainers I'm with the entertainers. I'm with the builders. You know what I'm saying? I think. The equivalent for that, for me, was him saying, yo, that was him with Donda. Like, he didn't have to do or say nothing. Like, remember how I said art is just made to be the art?

Like, you see what that did. Like, I ain't got to describe to you what this particular piece of art is. He even went into that discussing the artist that designed Drake's album cover with the art that he bought from him and what the art meant and how you wouldn't

dog. A black sheep embalmed. I'm done with it. An actual black sheep. I'm done. Then he said he bought 12,000 sheeps sheep. I'm done. Like a real one. Then he said he bought 12,000 sheep.

Sheep herder. He's a shepherd. There you go. It's funny. We had other shit to get to, man. But this shit, there was other shit

to get to. I mean, you want to do like a rapid fire topic breakdown so we don't just leave people with all Kanye summer drop. Last little Kanye point. Are you still with all Kanye summer drop. Last little

point. Are you still on? You dick eating. Because what I'm saying is it's almost like if you understand even part of what he's saying, you'd appreciate this. I'm seeing a lot of negative flack on this interview.

I didn't expect to see it that much. If niggas only know regular math and you start talking about calculus, you're going to fuck them up. Niggas that know algebra are going to be like, uh, the niggas that went up the next level. You get what I'm saying? Like, you're only going to recognize

and appreciate from your level of understanding. And people, you know, the way that people chop up the clips, you know, people love Big Sean. People love Just Blaze. All of Just Fire. People love Teller Carly. So they get this snippet and now fuck kanye and that's what i said i didn't touch too much on the just blaze stuff i cannot just blaze change my life i don't really know how to

receive that shout to just but i get what yay is saying i guess if i'm looking at it through his lens see but even that like you disclosing things that the general public wouldn't know we just know how blueprint turned out uh we don't know that you did the first half and then somebody else came in and might have heard some shit and might have mimicked and then you feel like it's a mimic and now every song played from the blueprint is psa and all the just blaze records and you're looking at like a dog i respect that from him could I say it no could Bing say it maybe

could I say it no and even Sinom I thank God hey if Jess Blaze is a biter I thank God he is that's me

and he didn't call him a biter he called him a copycat which I guess is a biter but you could also say that Kanye is a copycat of RZA and them so I mean

no you can't no you can't yes you can he got his style from RZA in them. So, I mean. No, you can't. No, you can't. Yes, you can. He got his style from RZA. He expanded on it. He has a seven zillion styles. And Just Blaze expanded on the styles of Bank. That's why I disagree with that. Kanye don't have one style.

Kanye don't have a style. The style that Kanye came in the door with. They got him. It's the same thing that he's saying about Just Blaze. The blueprint got Just Blaze in the door. The same thing that got Kanye in the door was a RZA sound. It was. We don't have to argue about it.'s done interviews saying i wanted to make a ghost

face album no i believe you what i'm saying is he don't said i wanted to be the hitman i wanted to be this i wanted to be so i get that but what you turned into is what i look at and when you do that no you can't compare kanye to the rizzo or anybody he might have emulated. You also can't compare Just Blaze to Vink. If you took the thing and expanded on it and made it your own thing, I'm sorry. I'm going to keep Mark. Me too. None of my business. I disagree with you, but I'm just going to say that.

I'm saying somebody would disagree with that because there's no clear-cut argument in that. Somebody could say, no, you didn't expand on it, Just Blaze. You're doing a variation of my shit still. And that's what Bink has been saying for however many years. I won't talk about it because I have too much respect for Just Blaze. Like, as I've said to Bink, yo, Bink, what do you want me to come in here and say about the guy that changed my life?

You want me to come in here and say that he's a fucking copycat loser? No, I won't because integrity. But if you would like to, then fucking do you. But Bink would argue that, no, just didn't deviate too much from that. And Kanye, no one could argue that. No one could argue that. Hey, Kim and Nikki, no one could argue that. Yes, she got it from her

and then she and he chilled it no she might have got a little bit from kim she got a lot from a lot of it but she added a lot no no look she might have got a lot of bit from kim she might have took a little bit from this person a little bit from jean gray a little bit from her a little bit from her and made the the the you know what i mean like like i heard last week yeah i heard a nigga last week he was heard a nigga last week, he was trying to argue against Kendrick and he was like, yo,

if you take the funny voices away, then I mean, what do you really have? And I'm like, shut up. You can't do that. You can't say if you take away, if I take away Kobe's jump shot,

if we take away fucking Mike Spade away, if we take, what are you talking about? Don't take away one of my strongest tools and say, now compare me. No, you don't because of that

or that or that. I that kanye point of because i feel like that watching the field now again maybe that's my narcissism but i love that point of yo i had to sit back and just reflect now because this nigga's doing yay greater not as one person but in combination travis scott's doing this kendrick's doing this cole is doing this drake is doing this this Scott's doing this. Kendrick's doing this. Cole is doing this. Drake is doing this. This person's doing this.

And this person's doing this. As one person now, I got to sit back and rethink of how to retool and come back to the game. It tell you how he's thinking. It was an extension of, yeah, I'll do versus. Put me up against everybody. I need a month. I need a month. Put me up against the people need a month I need a month put me up

against the people that make really good albums people that make really good radio singles hey he drove his point home and if he didn't drive it home enough

for you he ended with put me against all the Gemini rappers fam that nigga said no this nigga's not telling you exactly where he is

you gotta put Drake and Virgil next to me like I could compete with both of them at a high level he said like Joe said do you know

some Gemini rappers bro he named them like he later went on in speaking with admiration about Ice Cube and said

oh another Gemini get him too these is people that added to his cloth said 3000 right that he's saying and said, oh, another Gemini. Get him too. These is people that added to his cloth that he's saying, yo, how high he spoke about

Puff was a Gemini. That's twin. That's twin. I was like, yo, this guy is really into the Zodiac. But,

but, this is how much of a narcissist he is. He's not really into the Zodiac. He's not really into the Zodiac. He's into the Gemini Zodiac. Yo, I can relate. That's the only shit I care about. No, he's not.

I'm out. I'm done. I agree with that. I have no more Kanye. I agree with that 100%. I have no more Kanye. I don't care about none of that shit. But the Gemini.

I was. I got at least another 45 minutes of Kanye recognizing that Tata will never look at him in a certain light, but I'll save that for another time. That was deep for Joe, but go ahead. That is deep. Come on, moving right along. What else we got? New music. New music.

New music. New music. Summer Walker dropped a lot of the boys and a frenzy. Hey, this wasn't to get y'all in a frenzy, niggas. What are y'all doing? Let her get her shit off to London. Sean Garrett, round of applause. This is one of the most millennial, this is like the millennial love story.

This is OLS5. London produced half the album. This is OLS5, OLS6. No, it is. It's a different level when the person that you're talking about in all the songs made the music. That's crazy. I haven't read all the credits london did half the album because i'm sure he was working on the album when they split maybe so and that's why this is dope that's hard it's interesting and for them to call sean garrett and right after that like you know that we can't play

around with this brand for me i gotta listen to this album again i've heard it once it's really good it's not as good as her debut but it's really really good and the songs that i love nigga it's dumb it's dumb i told y'all amaryan wasn't gonna come to play y'all don't really respect amaryan the way i do he didn't come to play and if you know him the fucking song is the one that he's on when he get with the songstresses that's the one if you never heard any of these songs just go to his fucking is happening on that you got some other songs on there that is happening if a marion just pop up randomly on the feature it's about sex and putting that work in and then the song is called screwing so yeah y'all gonna make me play in a marion sleeper like if you don't know about him isn't that working? And then the song is called Screwing. So yeah. Y'all gonna make me play in a Mario on sleeper.

Like if you don't know about him, that's all he does is make those when he not pop locking and jockeying around. That was hard. Yo, scroll up a little bit, scroll up a little bit right there. Yo, that constant bullshit record went immediately in the playlist. She got some joints on here

that's just crazy, unloyal, Ari. I'm going to get to this again, hopefully with women or men around. But I'm going to get to this. I am going to get to this album. Do you light a different

scented candle? Huh? Do you light a different scented candle? Depending on the company? Nah, nah. Baccarat when the girls come over.

Ood when the guys come. Little Ood. Little guys come Lil Ood Lil Yeah hello Hello I can't stand you son Kickback just got a little more interesting Some more options

I didn't get to hear this album man I was at track Three when I got the text of Joe saying, yo. Silk Sonic's back. Watch this Ye interview. So I just cut everything off and ran to it. What did it? New song.

Yeah, new song now. New single. Is it good? Smoking Out the Window. Yeah. It is good? I like it. A lot better than the skating record.

Than skating around? Yeah, yeah. Oh, me farting for a minute in a row is better than skating around. Wait a minute. This love started off so tender, so sweet. Now she got me. Smoking out the window. Must have spent $35,000, $45,000 up in Tiffany's. Got a badass kid running around my home crib like it's Chuck E. Cheese.

Got a badass kids run around my whole crib like it's Chuck E. Cheese Put me in the jam with an X-Man in a UFC Can't believe it, I'm in disbelief This bitch got me payin' a rent, payin' for trips Diamonds on her neck, diamonds on her wrist And here I am all alone I'm so cold, I'm so cold Got me out here Diamonds on her neck, diamonds on her wrist And here I am all alone All alone I'm so cold, I'm so cold You got me out here

Smoking out the window Smoking out the window Singing how could she do this to me How could she do this to me For I thought that you were meant to be I rise from the hill and turn to me But I was wrong I'm wrong To everybody

Everybody Just the other night she was gripping on me tight Screaming I had to Way better than Skate. Is that what the last one was called? Yeah, the last one was Skate. They might as well leave that one off the album. There's some simp shit right here, though.

That shit is nice. That's some simp shit. That's what that is. That's simping. I don't know if Anderson played the drums on it, but whoever did was killing it towards the end. Fam said he was paying a bill, got her kids running through the crib,

but she belonged to everybody. You need better friends or something. The fuck? Travis drops Tupac. It's supposed to launch the festival. Is that what it is? Yeah, the festival is Friday and Saturday, I believe. Friday night, Saturday night.

Okay. He came out with two records. Silk Sonic, that song sounds phenomenal. That song sounds groovy. That song sounds really, really good. Smoking out the window, you paying a rent, you tricking, I'm supporting all of that shit. Not when she belong there, buddy.

You can't get mad at it. No, no, no. Well, who's mad at it? Well, he sound like he got some buyer's remorse or something in here. He hurt. Smoking out the window, this nigga stressed. Or enjoying life. Yeah, that sounds like enjoyment to me.

Oh, okay. Smoking out the window? I be having a blast when the window go down. Smoke it to going out. You got something different. You looking at the world? You looking at the water? This girl, look, man.

His heart broken. Come on, man. His heart that you ain't right here with me. That don't say that he's not fucking that girl. I didn't say that he's not fucking the girl. He said, now I got gotta give you back to the city He's still fucking-ish I know

Alright man So I'm rolling the window down Lighting up the design Design No this nigga is smoking Newport 100 A Paul Maul Yeah what the fuck is you talking about

This nigga going through it That nigga smoking a Paul Maul I think that Thank God there's only nine songs in this album. Because after listening to this beautiful art right here, this shtick feels like it would get tiresome to me. I don't want to hear all this bullshit. No, they would definitely have.

Take off your little bell bottoms, your fucking butterfly collars. All songs can't have that 70s vibe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take the filter off all of this shit yeah y'all gotta stop see because if y'all do this

one more time I'ma wish that when I heard the Bruno Mars Anderson Paak collaboration that I heard more Bruno Mars

and Anderson Paak like I have enough temptations like I have it I have the OJs I got the Isleys I got Marvin Sam

I got anybody you wanna name from back then, and they don't do that, then better than them. Now, I like it. I like that shit. But y'all got to relax. We'll see.

Because then what you going to do? You going to do this again? You can't do it. If Silk Sonic comes out, it's nine of these songs with that old feel, and it's successful, you going to do this again? I don't know if they would because Bruno's Bruno. He creative. This is what I'm hoping though.

The Joe Budden podcast is creating a petition to keep ASAP Rocky far away from Rihanna's studio sessions. Please sign it. Please sign it. Why do you think Rihanna

got studio sessions? Please. Please. Or. Please. He might need to be in the studio. Please sign it Why you think Rihanna Got studio sessions Please Please Or Please He might need to be in the studio No no no no no no If she's in the studio

You don't need to be there No no no no no no And you know what I don't think she in there You know what women do In the name of love Like oh come on I'm right over here man

Come put a little Antim on my hair Man Babe no Come on do that shit That you did in 2012 Now I thought you was gonna say Keep him away from somebody else Who man. Come on, do that shit that you did in 2012 now. I thought you was going to say keep him away from

somebody else. Ferg. Ferg's smoking right now. Don't come near him either. Well, nothing I've seen from A$AP Rocky says he's trying to find Ferg. Nothing I've seen from A$AP Rocky says he wants to find a studio.

Hey, you guys. There upon a studio hey you guys there's a few of you niggas that have been besties that I ain't seen together in years I have questions but I don't ask out of respect

here's some more here's some more out there I follow niggas on Instagram I ain't seen you niggas y'all was like

this relax I seen it is all I'm saying why they won't tell us why they don't hang together anymore? Like Kanye said, you got to just come out and say, I don't fuck with you. That nigga Ferg signed to Roc Nation, cut his hair off.

God damn it. That nigga, another bald nigga in the game. Oh, my God. ASAP Rocky, please don't contaminate no Ariana songs. Please, please. Just love her from home, nigga. All right, forget it. Ain't no Rihanna songs coming.

That part. Like, accept it. I'd rather that than have her and A$AP Rocky fucking duo on the scene. Let them niggas duo in the mirror. Like, who dressed the best or something? Yeah. Yeah, we could. I don't want to hear none of that shit.

I'll cut Kiss It Better off as soon as he come on stupid yo cuz he keep trying to appear please alright forget it come on what else man

what else drop you can't trick me I'm not fucking with you that nigga bought a little Bumble Bubble B fucking whatever that shit is

he bought a bunch of them shit come on you made a postie postie drop a weekend post below Fucking old Whatever that shit is He bought a bunch of them Just Come on You mean posty Posty drop a weekend Post below Did you hear this Is it hard

It's kind of hard Okay Give me a little bit Come on now Give me some Y'all know post is that Oh man I'm kind of good

Oh no I was supposed to Put up iTunes Oh yeah yeah One right now What's the name of this? One Right Now I got one coming over that walk right now I got one coming over that walk right now Said you wanna have my baby, so I fucked your dog You should pay me, don't call me baby

When you did me so wrong But I got all of what you did already Body fog, body so petty How many of your friends fit in my rose? Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright That sounds great That sounds great That sounds great

I purchased it already Shout out to Post Malone Shout out to Post, man This is hard There's another one He just don't He don't know how to miss Who, Post Malone. Shout out to Post, man. This is hard. There's another one. He just don't know how to miss. Who? Post Malone?

Any other music? Terrace Martin dropped an album. Round of applause for Terrace Martin. That was about it. Some Lucys. That would probably be Sleepers. All right. Yeah, I missed everything.

It was too much that happened in a short amount of time from midnight to us recording. Yeah, I just got lucky. I was like, come on, dog. I was up. My wife was asleep, so I had time. See, Call of Duty dropped at midnight. The nerd had to win. Come on, man.

Not listening to no music when the new Call of Duty dropped. Sorry. You don't play no music while you play the game? No. I need to hear. Come on, man. Not listening to no music when the new Call of Duty dropped. Sorry. You don't play no music while you play the game? No. I need to hear. I got the headphones on. I need to hear where niggas coming from. Are you really immersed?

Nah. It's just when you're gaming, when you're really playing certain shooter games, you want to know where the shot coming from. It's 3D sound. So if it's a nigga over here here I know where to go you could tell that from Those things you did I didn't recognize How much they hurt me On the other hand I'm gonna apologize

Cause I've been so difficult For complaining For the pain I was dealing with But catching you in different lines True as the night Cold faced it But you found a way to make it bad

As much as I refuse My heart is still asking, do you Mean it when you say it I ain't saying the oddest I'm in the artist's ocean You're making me feel What you say You're sending through You're helping me When you say My day When time comes

You're sending through What you say You're sending through I fight for you, I would fight for you, I will In them times you ain't do me bad I was right here Showing you what the word being loyal is But we were always in a fighting

But the truth is I was only trying to make it right Even though I might have been wrong In the way that I didn't keep it private Responding in the best way I knew When you wrote it, I better stay down You've been down it, but I still You know I need you When you're still in my head

Baby, All this bullshit And making me feel what you say When you say my name Yo, let me just cut this off for a minute, dog. Dog, this is somewhere in that bag.. Dog, this is Summer in that bag. This one right here is her in that bag. It is. This one is called Constant Bullshit. Here it goes. My life, but don't you rather let us die

It's too much, gotta save me all this shit Shit's a-ruin' us, yeah Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Thank God for whatever London did to her on that date right there, boy. That whatever toxic shit he did there, that I needed. I needed that like that. See, but unlike women, I think constant bullshit can be all right sometimes. It was just, if you're going to give me the fire pussy on top of that now,

you're just going to stress me. If you're going to stress me now, maybe we should look into you getting your own apartment. Maybe we should look into living separately out here. That never worked when I said that either. Well, go ahead. No, no. I'm out of here. I'm going to play a record off Key Glock, new album.

Okay. Just came out today. Yellow Tape 2. Look at Shaft, the big pop in heaven. This is the intro, Something About Me. I got that, all they don't need no key Block on my side, I be ridin' through the streets I be gettin' to the money, I got need for speed I don't fuck with pigs, but I still leave Leave young niggas messed up like we from the Middle East Yeah, young niggas with it, yeah, young niggas

Spendin' your block down the event, know how to creep Let the chopper sing like TLC Bitch, I ain't soundin' like bells on me Just told this hoe she ain't worth a cent Bitch, you know I'm a P-I-M-P If I see this shit, I want it, I get it Nigga, I ain't got taffy, no lease Snub nose, revolver in my pocket

I shoot like Scottie, boop it Bitch, I'm ballin', big, big business Got my own whips, ain't doin' no rain I cut the bitch off, I ain't doin' no trickin' Hoes tell you, shoot me, lil' bitch, you trippin' Don't get me wrong, I can show you how to get it Show you how to snag it, show you how to flip it Don't get me wrong, I can show you how to get it

Show you how to snag it, show you how to flip it Talkin' bout money, then you know I'm listenin' Money keep callin' like, like, come get me Just lit whoppin', I spent 250, shit Shoot a bottle, come down, I'm Bentley Just lit whoppin', I spent 250, shit Shoot a bottle, come down, I'm Bentley I love my gang, can't fuck who against it

I just drop a hundred on the cutthroat pendant Let me tell you niggas, lil' somethin' bout me I'm a self-made nigga, never had a OG You can ask my grandma, ask my cousins You can ask my teacher, you can ask the street I just be in the cut, so don't get cut You know I'm cut,-made nigga, never had a OG You can ask my grandma, ask my cousin You can ask my teacher, you can ask the street I just be in the cut, so don't get cut You know I'm cut, they cut on me I just be in the cut, so don't get cut

You know I'm cut, they cut on me Let me tell you niggas a little something about me I got nine cars, they don't need no kill Block on my side, I be riding through the streets I be getting to the money, I got need for speed Yeah, I don't fuck with pigs, but I still eat beef Young niggas messed up like we found the Middle East Yeah, young niggas with it, yeah, young niggas spending your block down there

You ain't know how to creep Yeah, real drinks if I don't fight my sleep Yeah, real hustle, lil' self-shows on the beach Yeah, I'm the GOAT, baby, and the other niggas cheap Yeah, shootin' like Kyrie if a nigga reach Yeah, I'm the GOAT, niggas rats, I can hear em squeakin' Ayy, let me borrow your bitch for the weekend Jumped out the back of the makeback, geekin'

Spilled some drink on my mirrors, tweakin' Damn, I love my cup like Weezy Buy so hard, this shit hurt easy New car, new watch, but no reason Shout it, suck it like she teaching Thought I have a nigga leakin' Money talk, you niggas speechless Money talkin', big like speakin'

Money talkin', big like speakin' Let me tell you niggas, lil' somethin' bout me I got nine cars, they don't need no key Clock on my side, I be ridin' through the streets I be gettin' to the money, I got need for speed Yo, I don't fuck with pigs, but I still eat beef Young niggas messed up like we from the Middle East Yeah, young niggas with it, yeah, young niggas spendin' your block

They don't even know how to drink Let me tell you niggas a little somethin' bout me I got nine cars, they don't need no key Glock on my side, I be ridin' through the streets I be gettin' to the money, I got need for speed Yeah, I don't fuck with pigs, but I still eat beef Young niggas messed up like we from the Middle East Yeah, young niggas with it, yeah, young niggas spendin' your block down here, you didn't know how to creep We up in this motherfucker On some murder, murder, kill, kill shit

Yeah, the butcher coming, nigga Real hip-hop shit, yeah Murder music just for this type of shit They cabanas, cause this what they gon' play When they wipe they prints off the hammers I'm really like that I ain't just write this shit for the camera I did in my city what Michael Vick did in Atlanta Cash saved for insurance, them bad days was a forest Still hood, roach clips in the ashtrays of my foreign In LA, R&B bitch drunk with her hands around me The night Swiss introduced me to Nas at a Grammy party

When my strip introduced me to hard, I had grams around me A star player never asked for the bar, they just playing around me Niggas heard I took a shot, they was asking if I was good I looked the shooter right in his eyes when that trigger got pulled Huh? Murder music, murder music, murder music, murder music Yeah, murder music, murder music, murder music Some come through the water, some come through the border

Some of them get caught but that's depending on the porter Old niggas hiding, young niggas sliding I'm being a man, just protecting and providing My only concern is if it cook right My chain yellow, way the diamonds set up, it make it look white Kill you for nothing cause they petty Cutting the dog food with the fetty They young but they ready, no crowd

I get my applaud off the beat I'm a boss so I make sure all of us eat Say a couple funerals will bring a war to a cease And remember, it ain't no reward for the streets This is not normal, diggy suits is how we dress formal Where I'm riding is tracks like a porno Alright then, what's up then? I'm bussin' every controlled substance I touched it, I know it's disgusting I'm just stackin', call me El Guapo And I bet you never had a brick from El Chapo Tuesday, I just play the crib and make tacos A lot of niggas frontin' like they nice, but they not though

Y'all spoke that up, now soak that up They done pulled my coat, nigga, the goat got up What's up? Murder music, murder music Murder music, murder music Murder music, murder music Yeah, murder music, murder music Murder music, yeah Murder music, murder music Murder music, yeah

Murder music, murder music Yo, I only got time to murder shit, I bang them while deafening both ears When I'm making niggas black and rep couches and throw cheers At times I be unleashing a raft of most fear I don't discriminate, I even body close peers See, I'm suggesting most you niggas should get this step into the rear And fuck what most you niggas are taught, I don't care If you don't rep it right, you shouldn't come around here Adjust my level up, make most you niggas are taught I don't care If you don't rep it right

You shouldn't come around here Adjust and level up Make sure a nigga sound clear They wanna stop and wanna steer They hate that I'm the best And it's greatness in the flesh And it's pointless to compare You need to describe this jewelry I write

To save this shit on a server And type the way that I speak For moving space on a cursor I'm not an advocate for balance But push me, I'ma push it further This grip, hand on my hip Squeezing the grip a little firmer These dumb niggas don't realize

That it's better to be a learner Stupid niggas When you don't, it's when you get the feelin' a burner Shut the fuck up It's better to be watchers, listeners, and observers Cause if you not, you fuck around That's how niggas like you get murdered Murder music

Murder music It's murder music Snoop featuring Benny, Jadakiss, and Busta Produced by Knott's. Shout out to Knott's always. What you got for us, Ish? R&B shit. Jordan Hawkins.

Song is called We Have. This is the live version. I like the live version better than regular. All right. We got a commercial, so we'll let this ride out and talk for another minute. I think Snoop's got an album coming, man. I like what I'm hearing so far. I said it'll come out next week.

Oh, okay. You said Snoop come out next week, right? Yeah, next week. Next week. The 12th. All right, we're ready for Jordan now. Let's hear it. Say we both insecure, yeah We both in the dark, yeah

You wanna know my past, well I don't wanna know yours I don't even know what that means Ignorance is bliss, yeah, yeah, yeah I need my confidence. I ain't got no budget. Just share the butterflies. Look you in the eyes. And kiss your lips.

She's a comfy as hell. I don't want what he has. I don't want what he had. I don't know what he had with you. She don't know what she had. She just wants what he had. I don't know what he had. I don't know what he had I don't know what he had With you She don't know what she had

She just moves where we had Say we both got our package How we supposed to manage Carrying this can't wait It's so easy to hesitate I don't know the truth, love We got an easy type of true, true love That's what I say, you love

Make me want a new love Like I never, never, never knew love I don't know what it is I don't know what it is When true She don't know what he had She just wants what we have I don't know what he had

I don't know what he had with you She don't want what he had with you She don't want what she had She just wants what we have Say, is this the day that I let my God Down open up my heart and give you my all now this is the day it's just a day that I give my love away say is this the day that I let my God down? Open up my heart and give you my all.

Now, is this the day? Is this the day that I let my love away? I don't want what he had. I don't want what he had I don't want what he had with you She don't want what she had She just wants what we had All right, Jordan Hawkins, We have, that's a live version. Treehouse Sessions is the tag if y'all want to find it out too. All right.

Round of applause to you guys for that phenomenal breakdown of arguably the best interview of the year in Kanye West and Drink Champ. No, no, no, no, no. Respect him. It's yay. Yay. It's just yay.. Respect them. It's yay. Yay. It's just yay. It's true.

It's yay. So I'm wondering now what his kids' last name will be because he doesn't have one, nor should he. I agree with him. We shouldn't run around with our slave names this way. You've definitely been saying that for a minute. You've definitely been saying that for a long time. Yo, he say the things seriously

that I beat saying and I get laughed at, but whatever, let's keep talking about it. What are the kids' last names now? I got rid of my slave name. They could change their names. They would have to change their name. It could be Ye. They don't have to do that.

See, and that's why I thought that was great. Like, the last name could be Ye. Like, that's the name. Such and such Ye. See, look. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Such and such Ye. That's the last name that says what it

is that's beautiful that's like fucking marvin gaye's son or disney's son or somebody's gay you just know you know what i mean and for him to be that close to you know we always laughed at him well i did anyway when he started talking about oh well disney and steve jobs like shut the fuck up man i don't hear that shit but for all years later, for him to be a little closer to his idea of that. That's what he was saying, though. He was like, yo, you can't put restrictions on yourself. He said he don't like saying the word can't at all. That is really a mental construct that you put on yourself.

Can't, should, would, could. Listen, man. Watch that interview again. Watch that interview again, please. Now, I've been getting comments from you guys saying that we should officially retire Outstanding with the death of Ronnie Wilson, founding member of the Gap Band. Dead at 73 years old. May he forever rest in peace. Rest in peace, Lord. Rest in peace.

Confirmed by his wife in a Facebook post published Tuesday. The love of my life was called home this morning at 10.01 a.m. Please continue to pray for the Wilson, Boulware, and Collins family while we mourn his passing, she wrote. Rest in peace to the legend of God. We're going to play this because why not? to the legend of God. We're going to play this because why not? Yo, and even later on

in the interview when Kanye got into, he got into a lot of numerology. He just didn't say numerology. Okay. Oh, when he was talking about like the similarities between numbers and stuff like that.

Numbers and what they mean when they appear in your life. And he said you have to pay attention to it. He got deep. He just was, he didn't get, that's the scary part. He didn't even get to where his brain really could go. Because he was talking to us. Got to reserve himself.

And he go. Shout out to all the black people at the cookout All the white people that put raisins in the potato salad They be putting apples in that shit They putting apples in a potato salad too Also before I go White people on TikTok You have been seen what y'all are doing with baked macaroni and cheese is egregious y'all should be arrested a citizen's arrest should be made against some of

the white people tick-tocking the white version of baked macaroni and cheese. These niggas are slicing tomatoes and putting them on top. What? You want me to show you? No. No. No. We good.

Thanksgiving is coming up. Big mama. Spaz the fuck out. Their rule is different. The noodles they use, different. Everything about it is different. They put just milk in it and like and white people y'all

think because the blacks haven't organized and gotten together right y'all think that y'all could just take great shit from us and white ties it no y'all can't do what y'all are doing to bake mac and cheese

if no one's gonna tell you i will as a coleslaw lover some of you evil whites out there in a practice of division have caused me to argue with some of my black counterparts this week. Why are you pointing at me? Not you. Not you. I meant that way. Not you. But black people have been arguing with me because I like coleslaw. You see how I'm looking at you when you said you're a coleslaw lover?

Where's your family from? Aiden, North Carolina. You lying. Aiden, North Carolina. You serious? Thank you. My grandparents. My mom's side. Why you think he lying? And my father's from Jamaica.

His whole family's from there. Oh, because you can't. Oh, I thought. Yo, anyway. I thought because you can't possibly not like Coleslaw from the Carolinas. Oh, you wanted them New Jersey ties Carolina guys. New Jersey. It's like the Americanized Canadians.

You wanted those. We don't fuck withized Canadian. You're one of those. I know, but then I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to real niggas. You don't eat Popeye's coleslaw? Hell no. Because he grew up on white people coleslaw. No, he didn't grow up on no fucking coleslaw. Well, you grew up on different things. The multiplication sign was

a dot by the time you got to school, right? No, I don't have the new math. I don't have the new math. Fuck out of here. I don't have the new math. Fuck out of here. Y'all not going to hit me with the new math. That's what happens. It's a star for you.

No, I'm going to hit a nigga. I'm going to go star. I got you. It's a star. Yo, it's a dot. We all miss him. Yo, how is it not an X? Yo, we want to really go there.

How they take a planet away? Yo, you know what I was thinking I'm still not over that I'm never getting over that I gotta teach my daughter And they put it back And took it away a couple times I gotta teach my daughter

There's eight planets I'ma get off of Kanye But I'll give y'all this I'm off I'll give y'all this And I'll go I've said this before here too And all of y'all

Laughed at me Bitch ass niggas All while Kanye was talking I had a good 45 minutes laughing at y'all back in the day that went home to write your homework out in cursive. Idiots. Can we end the pod? No, no, no, no, no. Not before I cursed them out. Not before I cursed them out. Not before I curse them out.

They all said, Joe, why'd you drop out? Because of cursive and lunch outside of school. Whose idea was that? Hey, let them do what they want for an hour and come back. You went to a school like that? I went to a school like that. And they ended that shit quick. Yo, did they do that today I don't know

I don't know Hell no Hell no The school Ish They didn't do that in my life They didn't do that shit What type of weakling

Did you think I was To let me Out of school For an hour And go back To the school Honestly They didn't do that in my life

Think about it Alright so once we get that Out the way They tried to make you Learn to write in cursive and when you said no they tried to give you a bad grade for not doing your essay in cursive broke-ass teachers you fucking teachers without foresight do you did y'all not have the vision? Of what? Of the fucking future. Of the fucking future. What do you think?

It was going to be a cursive button sitting right there? The cursive S. Let's waste time with all those little frasy lines. Instead of this. Really quick. I'm out.

This is how you know Kanye was bugging. He thanked dead Prince for a song he got. Yeah. He did. He sure did. While a song he got. Yeah, he did. He sure did. Why he was bugging. He said he ain't dead. He said Prince gave him.

He said, no, this is why he was bugging. And not bugging, but this is why you know he's off. He said, yo, and that's why Prince gave me that record. Nori was confused. He's like, wait, Prince gave you a joint? He's like, yeah, man, that's my Prince gave me that record. Nori was confused. He's like, wait, Prince gave you a joint? He's like, yeah, man. That's my Gemini brother. He's with me right now up there.

He's giving me joints. You don't hear that? Guess who's going? And as soon as he said that, I was like, oh, I hear that. Oh. Oh. Duh. Dead Prince fucking just came.

Sent us some shit. Came and sent you a joint. I want one just came. Send us some shit. Send us files. Came and sent you a joint. I want one of those. Let me see. I don't fuck with you. I didn't hear it. I didn't get it.

I didn't get it. Come on. We out of here. I'm gone. We got shit to do. Shout out to the Doobie Brothers. This is what a fool believes if you never heard this record before. Also, if you never heard this pod, all the songs in the front and the end and during are played for a reason Might be new listeners

He came from somewhere, hey, hola, yeah Shout out to the fool, don't say that Y'all wanna thank y'all out there for listening Keep us in your prayers, Lord News We need to be there Let's sing along together though She musters a smile For his nostalgic taste Until the next time I bid you adieu

Farewell, adios, hasta la vista Arrivederci, so long, goodbye Life is a series of moments And moments pass So let's make this one last As if it's all we have Now, it goes She had a place of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Now, here it goes.

She had a place in his life. Let me hear you. He's famous. He's famous. As he rises to, come on, Ish. You was outside. Anybody else would surely know Hey, let's go there Hey girl

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They get so offended Hey, why you calling me that? Cause you were born after Illmatic, bitch, shut up She had a place in his life Why you calling me that? Because you were born after Illmatic, bitch. Shut up. You was born after fucking Poetic Justice. Love Jones. You was born after Martin, Fresh Prince. You missed mad, important black shit to happen.

Shut up. You missed when Rosa Costa was a fitness instructor. Shut the fuck up. What does Acosta was a fitness instructor. Shut the fuck up. What does she know? A fitness instructor. No. What a fool. You missed when Brittany Renner was a soccer star. You missed it.

Don't worry about it. The wise man has a problem. Yo, last thing about Kanye, I promise I'm getting out of here. At the end, he repeated at least 10 times, that's my family, Hulu. That's my family, Hulu. That's my family, Hulu. Again, these megastar billionaire clutter thinkers telling us what's going on without telling us what's going on. Is there some

type of beef or something happening with hulu or disney he said something he sent the shot to disney too hulu disney well disney owns them he's talking to them he's why is he talking because they're about to showcase his family in a light that he doesn't agree with is he in some type of battle or well what he was saying something's going i'm saying that's what he was with? Is he in some type of battle? Well, what he was saying... Something's going... Him saying that said something's going on. He was talking about how the publicist is playing shit and how it's playing out for them cameras. And he's like, yo, that's my family.

This is just a show to y'all. Fuck y'all. He said, yo, I hate that publicist. He did. He said, I can't stand that woman who gets paid to do a job that when we go to bed at night, me, my genius ass, and those 30 ideas I gave you that you got working out, that's panning out for the public to see, she taking credit for and getting paid for. And I hate her.

See, that was dope just saying who you hate. Next week, I'm coming here to tell you all a list of people I hate. I got to go write it down. It may not be a lot, but I'm going to come up with something. Yeah. Wish me luck out there.

My first weekend being bisexual. I'm going to see what I can do. I'm going to see if I can get something going. These bitches have been playing. Let's see what Carlos and them is about.

Just take it slow with me, please. You and this ain't going to hit different now. I still believe in love. Yerk. What? I said, you and this ain't going to hit different now. Hey, wait. Who's calling me, man?

In the middle of my, what's going on? Yo, yo, no. It's too late now. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Watch that rise of power. Oh, yo. Wrong one. Wrong one yo wrong one wrong one oh hold up stay right hold up hold up dog hold up duke yo what you say i'll be that 6 30 all right you'll be the only one here you said you said

hey i said have a blast man let me end it let me end this show, buddy. And I'll call you in a second, all right? Okay. All right. Love you now, sir. Go ahead. I'm just happy you're alive, brother. Now let me end my part. Fellas, I like bowling, golf, gun range.

What else do I like? I like steakhouses. I can finally have a list of demands. Unlike these fucking streets. Alright, I'm gone. Goodbye.