The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 504 | "We Need More Man Meetings"

Episode Date: January 22, 2022

Joe kicks off the pod by telling us why he archived his Instagram posts (13:05). The guys then discuss new music releases for the week (20:18) and the upcoming Super Bowl performances (44:30). Complex announces a new list of the best rappers from each year ranging from 1980 to 2018 (1:06:20). This sparks a conversation about artists and their issues with music labels (1:18:12) and MORE! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden  Sleeper Picks Joe | Amber Mark - “Softly” Ice | Lil Wayne - “Live From The 504” Parks | Che` Noir - “Communion” Ish | Yung Bleu & Ne-Yo - “Through The Fire”

All you gotta do is be dope at all times. Pull your chair out. Fall on your back. You think it's just hedrons, yo? Hedrons. Damn. It's okay to be nice to a woman, you know? I concur. 100%.

1000%. But the cavemen dudes out there, they'll let you know that they're cavemen somehow in their verbiage. They will. Mm-hmm. You right. You see that red cup?

What about you all? I think you're in the negative, too. Oh. Without a doubt, though. Don't watch this, though. I think you might owe a couple dollars there, too. I don't know nothing. You square?

Yo. Y'all gotta get along. This is Zen Yo. Y'all gotta get along real quick. This is Zen Joe. Y'all not gonna round me up today. My mom be blasting this shit the next morning, yo. I be in a room. Hearing yourself go crazy? Yeah, like, he gotta relax.

Why is he screaming over nothing, yo? He, though. My mom's just in there cooking some eggs. That's my baby. I'm so proud. Yeah, that's my baby. Yeah, so this is Zen Joe today, but listen,

been a lot of false reports about my person in the last year. Some of them include math. So let me go ahead and get mine out the way. I never like to have a negative balance

with anybody out there. And if I owe anybody money out there, just hit me. I'm not talking about you scammer niggas that's like, yo, send me your cash app tag. You scammers, boy. We ain't going to get into you right now. But anyway, where were we at? These cavemen.

We were talking about cavemen. We're talking about dating. Talking about who? Dating Yeah Oh Cavemen and dating That part Y'all were talking about chivalry

Mm-hmm Yeah I think what y'all were talking about Was just being chivalrous Correct In terms of Opening a door Pulling out a chair

During a date Mm-hmm Indeed I pull out chairs Same I don't do much to the chair. I do doors. I just think it's a little extra.

So you'll walk past the chair and let her sit down? And let her pull out her own chair? I think it's a little extra. You think pulling out a chair is extra? See, that's caveman stuff to me. Well, to me, it's like, when we get to the table,

it's like, which seat do you want? You'll pick whichever seat you want. I already know which seat I want. Oh, no, no, no. I don't pick this seat. Wait, wait, wait. Huh? No, no, no. which seat do you want? You can pick whichever seat you want. I already know which seat I want. Oh, no, no, no. Well, you the man. I don't pick this seat. Wait, wait, wait. Huh? I already know this.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. What the hell's going on? See why we need more men meetings? No, it's not whatever seat. I got to face the door. I'm calling a man meeting today, man. My back is to every... Yeah, I got to face the door.

Would y'all let Brother Parks share about his seat? Yeah. Yeah, I'd let them pick which seat they want. Yeah, I do. All right, so we're going, I do. That's privilege. It's like kindergarten for you, okay? The man is supposed to see

everything that's taking place. You can't have your back to the crowd. I don't think I've been in many restaurants that have a door. It's not about the door. You said you gotta face the door no I said you gotta face everything

I wanna be able to see what's going on you have been in restaurants with a main entrance yeah of course you have you think the shooters come in the main entrance the puncher

the shooter the stabber see why we need more man meetings the other people I would've never guessed that Parks lets the lady pick the seat

on the date and it's established too like I don't know if black men do that never like the first no no Parks lets the lady pick the seat on the date. And it's established too. I don't know if black men do that. Never. No, no. You got to establish it. The first outing,

you got to let them know. I'm not out with nothing that there's about to be a conversation about. It ain't even a conversation. Me pulling out your seat

is showing you where you're going to sit. Talk to him, King. Well, not even that. Talk to him. Yo, you sit here, girl. No, no, no. Sit down.

I don't mean it that way, but... Well, my chicks normally have ass, so I want to pull the seat out for them. Like, your chicks be a little on the slim side,

so they probably could just slide or squeeze right in the little... Taking offense to this. ...the little cubby hole. I'm taking offense to this, by the way. Yeah. It probably do look extra doing it for the little cubby hole. I'm taking a fist to this by the way.

It probably do look extra doing it for the little slim girl. Little 90 pound thing. It definitely does depend on where you're at. If you're in some like maybe some danger. Hey, it's 12 degrees today you little 90 pound things. Grab a long john. It's definitely long john season.

I could be anywhere. That's just a formality for me. Like, knowing, I gotta know what's going on. Yeah,

I can't. I'm a little bit more attentive. You could spot, you know, we could kind of see when this shit getting ready to happen.

We're gonna have to unpack this. Alright, we're gonna unpack it. I was trying to explain to Brother Pagan. Yeah, but we was lighting

your ass up for not pulling a chair out. Why? What's extra about it? You pull a chair out? No, because up for not pulling a chair out. Why? What's extra about it? You pull a chair out. No, because I don't pull a chair out.

I let them take their choice of seating first. See, that's why the women that meet me like me. I understand it now. Well, there's a million other ways to be chivalrous.

I need more men meetings. You niggas ain't shit out here. Who you niggas? Men. Don't look at me. Don't be you. That attitude. Man, I'm chivalrous in every other way be you-ing. Man, don't be you niggas in here.

I'm chivalrous in every other way possible. That's one that I don't do. Yo, but the more you speak to men. Depending on the situation, I'll pull a chair. If you're a similar supermodel or something. They're going to say I'm pandering. The more you speak to men, you understand women, though. The more you speak to women.

I'm friends with a zillion women, and they explain to you all the dumb shit that men be doing. So you be like, he did that? Some of this shit, I find that hard to believe. Yeah. shit that men be doing. So you be like, he did that? Some of this shit is hard to believe. Yeah. You serious? Like the dude that orders before the girl? Horrible. At the restaurant?

That's craziness. Dudes don't even hold a door. That's craziness. I hold a door for strangers. Right. You know what I'm saying? Especially older women, all of that. I do all of that.

And if I'm somewhere and a stranger doesn't hold the door for me, I'm a little sassy with them. That's true. Or no, they walk through and don't say nothing. That's white people shit. You're welcome. No, the white people look at you like you're supposed to hold the door.

You hold the door. They don't even say thank you. They're, oh, yeah. Comes in territory. On the date, you have her walk inside the curb. I'm just asking general questions. Yes. Yeah, of course.

Okay. What do you do when she splits a poll? I don't let them. I'll bring them around. Or I follow them around. I do that. Either way. If the poll can be split, I'm going to come back around.

If it's unavoidable, bread and butter. Yeah. What is bread and butter? That's what you say when you split the poll. Yeah. All right. I got it. Mic check. One, two, one, two. I i'm sorry y'all we here i hope everybody is doing good feeling good kiss your loved ones shout out to the happy relationships listening

and shout out to the sad one my heart is with you shout out to the single ladies dope boys scammers creators shout out to anybody tell me what dope boys, scammers, creators, shout out to everybody Tell me what you say now Tell me what you say now again My say now And you do not have to I say I don't have to let you in Cause you got me face down

And don't take the face alone I'm telling niggas off in these songs. True. Because you got me face down. And don't take the day too long. It goes real cold out in New York, real cold out in New York, and real cold in some of you guys' hearts out there. And although it hurts to know. But I'm here today. I'm keeping my scarf on, my hat on. I just can't keep running away.

Gang is here. Run away. Run away. Run away. Run away. Run away. Run away. Wait a minute. I don't need you. I don't need Keep running away. Keep running away. Wait a minute. I don't need you.

I don't need you. I don't need you. I don't need you. But I want you. Would you rather be needed or wanted? I get a warm feeling inside when she start talking that shit, yo. Yo, Jhené is nice, man. I told you.

She's nice you hear what she said I heard you yo stupid I heard she don't play man she get right to it my bad

I ain't mean to jam oh man I don't mean to but I love J.K. I don't mean to This how I feel when it's cold out I hope y'all got coats, thermals Whatever you need, long sleeve, long sleeve tees Sweatshirts and hoodies

Protect your hoodies, it all costs, they coming And it goes I does this man I might do y'all Wait for one day Word up I got a little game too Lloyd Banks, what up?

Obey, what up? Podcasters, what up? I work And then go My hands make me so weak but you make me strong Everything was upside down but now I'm right back where I belong And my name Cupid got me Shot me all over my body I think I'm losing my cool Cause I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not a daddy. It's Parks. It's Parks. It's Parks.

Microphone check. One, two, what is this? Welcome to episode 504 of the Joe Budden Podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favorite host, Joe Budden, here with a few really great guys. Parks is here. Ish is here. Welcome. Welcome. Parks is here. Ish is here. Welcome, welcome.

Ice is here. Corey is here. And we got the young boys in the back. Alex, you good? Yeah. Good, good, good, good. How's everybody feeling? Great.

What's going on with you? How was your week? It was good. It was good. Too feeling. Oh, come on. You're too long-winded. Too long-winded, fellas. Come on. I was in the studio all week, man. That's it. Working. Two funerals. Oh, come on. You're too long-winded. Too long-winded, fellas.

Come on. I was in the studio all week, man. That's it. Working. All right. How's the houses? I don't know. How's the house business going over there?

Nah, it's been a shitty week for me. I went to two funerals this week. This shit crazy. Sorry to hear that, man. I'm sorry to hear that. Part of getting older. Well, thank God they were able to have a funeral You went

To a funeral And a lot of people That was trying to figure it out Via Zoom Yeah Yeah That was a bad time That was a dark time

Indeed But we cool We here I'm here Thank God Because I didn't know the words To get us to bounce That shit you just said

Yo You said you wanna know We said you want to know. We men, we need to talk all that. Go ahead. We do need more men meetings, man. We do. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm cool, man.

I'm just fighting. You know, got the boost of the day, so. You got the boostie? Yeah, this whole arm is like not even here right now. Damn, kid. You can't even defend yourself. You got it today.

I'm calling this Twitter. got it today call his twitter got it today jump right on your ass call one of these they want to fight who want to fight everybody the little challenge

I put out there for the Patreon oh yeah what's the tier for that we're going to figure it out we're going to figure it out they're going to come cook ice muffins

they are hitting me up like yo one dude said yo I'll get there myself y'all ain't gotta fly me here just give me the okay oh man I'm gonna fight some of them

some of them dudes start challenging me I'm like hey hey dog I wasn't in this listen I'm not offering to fight none of you dudes I'm chilling

what am I saying rest in peace rest in peace to Meatloaf rest in peace to Louis Anderson yes and rest in peace to Meatloaf. Rest in peace to Louis Anderson. Yes. Legends. And rest in peace to Andre Leon Talley, who died at the age of 73.

Three icons, three legends. And I want to start with death, but prayers, thoughts, condolences, love to their families, friends, loved ones, fans, and associates. And we'll get into that a little later because I don't want to start with death-ish back to back funeral, you wore the same shit? I thought you didn't want to get into death

I'm asking about your closet depth did you have two suits ready straight out the cleaners? You knew exactly where to locate your ties, your cuff links. That's what I'm asking about. Or was it a little bit of a struggle? No struggle.

This is him we talking about, yo. Come on. He probably got four more. You had to iron your shirts. You gave him white, white, white? Black. Black, black black two different black shirts ready to go come on man come on man you stay ready you ain't gotta get ready come on

man i see why they went crazy when you walked in the sports bar come on man and y'all moving right along moving right along i want to start with some empathy. I understand you guys out there. I understand. Some of you guys with like really shitty opinions on who I am.

I went back through my Instagram and man, boy, did I leave it all there. I left it all on the court. By mistake.

I just was scrolling and went through my shit and was just scrolling and just kept scrolling went through my shit was just scrolling and just kept scrolling saw some things you didn't like dog you was wild we be the last to know

we be the last to know what you said and nobody told me nobody told me so I said alright I'm gonna change this in the next few months I'm deleting all this shit.

And then I just got started, and I couldn't stop, and I deleted everything up there. Damn. I deleted it all. Archived. Right. Archived. Like the baddies be doing?

Sin taught me. Like the baddies be doing? Sin taught me. Shut my little argument. You deleted all our moments. No, I archived them. You know what, dog? All right.

All right. All right. Why I ought to. I archived all of my shit, and there's one picture up there, but just scrolling back, all of the HDR phases, they were up there. Damn. That was a wild run. There's a filter. The first pool party kind of compound vibes were up there.

They're gone? Man, you really wild. Looking at mad women with their old bodies. I'm looking at the baddies, they old, they 2010. You talk about a 10-year challenge. I have y'all. Looking at you with your old body.

I'm like, look at such and such before she went and did that shit she did, man. Before she went and saw Dr. Paz and shit. Yeah, you had 10 years of shitting your Instagram?

Huh? You had 10 years of shitting your Instagram? More. What is that? It's 2022 right now. 10 years ago is 2012. We've been IG'ing

and all that shit. I was in 2009. Yeah. Damn. 10 years ago was 2012. We've been IG'ing and all that shit. I was in 2009. Yeah. Damn. That shit flew, bro. I had every relationship that wasn't really a relationship. The Molly phase. The vest phase.

Every bad fit. The bad torts. You should have left just the bad fit pictures up. That would have been classic. Failed relationships. Personal and and romantic why is it there why is it there just for somebody to be able to scroll through as if as if this as if you should be privy to all of that and as if some of these people should have real estate with me see that see my question to that is why was it there to begin with that's what i don't understand people putting all this shit out there

see now you should be the last one to say that why because you understand that all the different phases that twitter went through instagram did the same thing so at one point you put everything on instagram was hdr no i'm not talking about it right saying you're saying and it's one point you posted a lot i went bad like damn you went kind of crazy in 2013 with the photos you can post a lot without posting your life a lot there's a difference i never understood that i was never that person i say all the time people oversharing online i never got that well there's a business in it. Yeah. Yeah, for you.

Yeah, for you. Well, for them now. For everyone. Like, for everyone. And we're going to talk about some of this stuff later with subscriptions and what Twitter's allowing

with whatever that shit you said was. But it's a business. So, gone are the days where we didn't understand it. See, back then, we was just doing it. You know, like I bitched on the last podcast

about Netflix and chill and how we came up with it. But, Instagram used to kind of be like the visual Twitter where you just posted shit and didn't really think too much about it.

Yeah, it wasn't like that. It wasn't that serious. It was. No conversations, none of that. I guess I just looked at it, I always looked at it differently.

And this is before we knew what a tool it would be for your exes and your stalkers and the crazies. And then the crazies start having babies and then we had to deal with the crazies and their parents. Like, the crazies multiplied. No stories. A lot of different phases, yo. It was different. But anyway, I did a clean sweep and boy did I feel good. Felt like cleaning up the room look at that beautiful round of a

fucking applause I like it new energy felt good if you like it I love it now stupid me I'm doing it just on a whim I didn't know that people were doing this as like

a hipster trendy thing people doing this as like a hipster trendy thing people use it as like a roll out and all types of different shit well hey no I'm not rolling out now but no they do

I release twice a week and there you have it ta-da that's actually usually when it happens it's you're getting blog coverage such and such

deleted everything off their Instagram what's coming right like without saying a word just delete or archive whatever clean the instagram page off that's an announcement i'm going back to them pics and i'm and i'm looking see even that i could tell through the pics yeah i've never liked taking pictures i never even liked it i ain't even in a lot of these

i've always hated that Yeah that's me I hate pictures You see but when I was running around With a disposable camera The kids was looking at you Like you was a nutcase While you running around Trying to take pictures of everything

Now it's reversed You get older And you try to experience Live in the moment I ain't really with the picture thing But now it didn't happen to them I think I got about 50 pictures In my whole phone

I have three I got a half a fucking terabyte Or whatever in this shit I have I think I got about 50 pictures in my whole phone. I have three. I got a half a fucking terabyte or whatever in this shit. I have three. Oh, I got vids in my phone. God forbid I start a little anonymous OnlyFans page. Oh, man.

These women would be... They couldn't see some desist fast enough. My phone is up. Let me shut up, man. Anyway, what's going on? How y'all doing? What we talking about? Do your little bird thing. Wait, for real?

Wait, for that? What? Wait, you gotta be joking. Not for the whole, even archiving your pictures. That's what I said, like a little bit. Wait, I'm a bird for Ark? Yes, a pigeon. Bird, oh my god. You'd be the last to know. You'd be the last to know.

You'd be the last to know. That's pigeon-ness. You a bird, though. You said, yo, they couldn't send a cease and desist fast enough. Okay, wait. Time out. I don't know if we pod posturing. I don't know if you just playing devil's advocate.

Let me just see why we need men meetings. Blanket question for the room. know if you just playing devil's advocate let me just see why we need men meetings blanket question for the room so you don't have any old videos stored anywhere no i got some very seldom no it's not out there i wouldn't need to cease and desist i ain't say i but you have a few so you can relate i ain't scorsese of the shit but and and he i'm not new music thank you you can't get zen joe ish see and i know it's important to know your friends I'm not trying to do that but I know that you

that's who you are oh man like you just do that to things and I will not allow it bro I wasn't new music

now new music Park says there is none Ice says there is it's no major releases I guess I'll put it that way damn what there was no like I'm not shitting on you wow I'm not shitting on you It's no major releases, I guess I'll put it that way.

Damn. What? There was no like- I'm not shitting on you. I'm not shitting on you. There was no fucking huge superstar. Every day his backpack gets smaller. Whatever. NBA Youngboy dropped.

That's major. He dropped out? Yes. Oh, I missed it. Dropped a tape called Colors. I went on Apple Music last night and there was all country people at the top of this shit. Nah, Youngboy dropped Colors.

My bad. Well, it says Colors Deluxe, but it's the first. I don't know how that worked. You dropped the Deluxe first. Really? Yeah. So I don't know. But it's a new project he just dropped.

He had a couple singles that he released over the last few weeks. And it's a full 20, I think 20 or 21. It's a full project, though. You heard the whole thing? I did. I listened to it. I like when he get in his pain bag. I love gangster rap and all that, but when he go there and start describing loss, trauma,

yeah, yeah. He's really, really, really good at getting into it. He got a record on there, How You Been, where he's talking really really good at getting into it like he got a record on there How You Been where it's like he's talking to a deceased family member just one of them like he's really

really ill with that a lot of people just see the antics not antics but they see the clips that go out and you get

one idea of him this kid's kinda deep to be young he been through a lot of shit and he puts it all on track so i fuck with the project and i'm actually getting warmed up to mixed polished young boy music before i didn't

even see that shit on no list so i'm glad you put me on i hate the uh apple music we talked about this a million times the shit they suggest to you on the new music releases oh man it's bad there's nothing on there you gotta really dig for shit come on A's give us some more cause I'm ish in all of this okay Paper Route Empire which is Young Dolph's

label they put out a compilation project Long Live Young Dolph 8 records each of the artists on there got a song on there and is it all kind of about dolph or it's just a compilation um it's most of the records are about him and then there's just like a couple of just joints joints on there um okay key lock has have you listened to these projects? Yes I listened to this Got it You like them?

I like it Got it I like the artists on here So I kind of knew What I was getting from them It does sound good To hear a couple of Like Key Glock's record

Proud Big Moochie Grape and Dolph We Trust To hear them It's a little bit Out of their bag Then from what you

You know what you usually get Right So that's kind of why I like them Okay I like to hear different shit Show me you can do a little bit more of their bag than from what you usually get. Right. So that's kind of why I like them. Okay. I like to hear different shit. Show me you can do a little bit more. They got an emotional bag as opposed to they shoot them up

bang, bang, bang. Well, they do not shoot them up bang, bang, but yes. Gotcha. It's a different bag. Sure. Just let the music talk go. Shut up, yo.

It's flowing. Everything I don't listen to is shoot them up bang, bang-ish. Yo, Ish, what you asked before the pod started yeah what's that question ask that

please I'm begging you who is the artist you was asking about who's Ray Shremat who's Ray Shremat how'd you say it

I don't even know what y'all talking about oh all them dudes I didn't know what's the name you know they songs I might know

you know what you said You said yo Ice Who's Ray Schmack Schmack I never wished The mic was on And caught something

But he do that once Every pod Before the pod What's the proper pronunciation Ray Schmack You see how it's spelled Yeah It's ear drummers backwards.

Yeah, we all did this when they first came out. Yeah, we knew. Ten years ago. Yeah, Madeline. You know that music. I might. Who is that? Ray Sremmurd?

No, no. You know the kid Sway Lee? Oh. He's a Sremmurd. He's a Sremmurd. He's a Sremmurd. Yo, why are they not dropping something? Don't get me started.

I have my own conspiracy theory in my head let's hear it I don't think they like each other and it's just it and it's over oh no they wanted to fight me before for saying something like that

so I ain't saying anything I'm sorry you can't fool me with the little picture of the two of y'all at the festival no no no y'all don't like each other

but why they gotta like each other to make music it's a synergy that you should have yeah and I think they have tried to make music and it ain't what it was because they don't like each other to make music? It's a synergy that you should have. Yeah. And I think they have tried to make music, and it ain't what it was because they don't like each other and the powers, the people that they're saying no. I want to use my platform to spread positivity to artists.

I'm a fan, so I hope that's not a problem. I'm a super fan. I am a fan, and I hope that whatever's going on can be reconciled, if there's anything to reconcile, so we can hear no music. I don't want to hear no more solo music from either one of them see they are great try that take that they are great nice joe great not good great together and we need this we do it's been how many summers now they hold it down with the music in the summertime that's a fact i've I've been screaming, where is Ray Swimmer? Where is Ray Swimmer?

It's been like five years. Wait, who was that? Who was that that had everybody fucking freezing in the club? Ray Swimmer. Yeah, that was them. That was the mannequin challenge. With Black Beatles. Black Beatles, that's what it was.

The record. Why you look? I know what I tweeted-ish. You don't have to look at me. What you tweeted? I asked Michael J. Fox would he do the mannequin challenge. Yeah.

But why would you do that? He's a terrorist. Legit question. He responded. He said, shaking my head. Well, his head was already... That's what I said and then everybody got mad.

Ice, you can't do that. What's wrong with you? It was old Ice, man. I'm grown now. Oh my God. We apologize. You're grown now. Yeah.

Michael J. Fox, we love you. Yeah, we do. He's my guy. And we hope everything is cool. Now, what were we talking about just now? We were talking about new music. New music. Yeah.

All right, Ray Strummer. Yeah, we hope y'all come back. Dead ass. Please. Dead ass about that. 2 Chainz dropped a single with Moneybagg Yo and Beat King called Pop Music. I love Beat King. drummer yeah we hope y'all come back dead ass please dead ass about this two chains dropped a single with money bag yo and beat king called pop music i love beat king yeah i love beat king that joint is a joint they got one i went and did some research on beat king that's the record I

I was looking for her when you was looking for beat king she popped up you wanted to beat king yo what is yo what is order in the pod? Order in the pod.

Man, that thing. Ice. Say please. I'm trying, man. Nobody to hear. It's off mic moaning. I'm trying. I'm trying.

Ice, please, man. I don't like it. I don't like it. I ain't even here yet. I don't like it I don't like it so I ain't even hear it yet I don't like it we gotta listen to it so yeah that's all I got

for new music parts Shay Noir dropped an album that's real dope Ma Kami dropped an album he's been putting out a million albums in the past couple months also a dope project

that's all I got from the underground it was kind of a quiet week any R&B drop Joe? of course it did there we go let me hear some of course it did i get my r&b from you i don't even look on there no more yeah because you won't find it on there uh kenyan dixon dropped

that's what i'm playing now this is called love on replay some of y'all got to give me respect for for doing that to your R&B iTunes. Honestly. Tell me what you're doing. This is not to be confused with Dixon, is it? No. Okay. Dixon is a different artist. That is D-I-X-S-O-N. This is Kenyon Dixon.

D-I-X-O-N. Got it. Okay. And he just consistently drops heat. Love only plays. Have me your way. Oh, man. Cut that off. Cut that off, man. See, how can you listen to stuff like that and not pull the chair out, man?

You got to do it. You got to fully do it. I still can't believe I'all put a jacket on alright hold on guess we going down guess we going to jail guess we going to jail

like yo he's stupid man y'all hold the jacket at least right like when she's going to put her jacket on you hold the coat indeed

oh yeah help her put her jacket on I'm like what the fuck you mean hold her jacket I definitely do the coat. Indeed. Oh yeah, help her put her jacket on. I'm like, what the fuck you mean hold her jacket on? I definitely do that. Okay. What you do when she didn't bring the jacket but then she gets cold when...

You got to take your coat off ASAP. Yeah, that's a dub. What if you don't have a coat? That's it. You get my hoodie. So if you do that then why won't you pull a chair out?

You are confusing me. I see why women are confused. Joe, my woman... well you take your hoodie off and give it to her what's wrong with you absolutely Sabrina Claudio dropped so come on

Sabrina Claudio dropped I said I'm not getting cold you saw the weather just like I saw the weather we both saw the weather it's January we both knew what it was gonna be

out here this nigga stupid I even said you should take a jacket this nigga said you saw the weather yo so Ice

back in the day when River Road was you know River Road yeah yeah yeah you ain't used to walk on the promenade

no oh okay bitch I'm from Newark we didn't have no promenade. I know. You bring them from Newark to River Road, you was guaranteed a bucket. Yo, anyway. No way.

I'm from Jersey City, and even we had the little pier. Don't do that. We used to go down by the pier and think we was doing something. We thought that was the W. Yeah. And so the wind be a little... It would be an extra seven degrees lower than anywhere else in the world. It should be freezing.

You got to have a jacket and a hoodie. Can you stop naming the places that we be at? I let you get off. Now you at. The match made it. Hey, timestamp killer. Jesus. Everybody in America, you post your fuck.

Shut up, yo. Nigga, ice is the greatest. What? What you mean? Nigga said, yo. Nigga, ice is the greatest. What? What you mean? Nigga said, yo, I'll pull a chair out. I'm going to open the car door. Walk in the outside. But if we walk outside and she cold, my ma.

You got to freeze to death. What the fuck? I mean, at some point, you got to take some accountability we talking about here. Today is what? January what? 22nd? So if the car skipped the curb and you was walking on the outside, you knew it was cars coming down the block.

I wouldn't let her walk on the outside. I wouldn't let her walk on the outside. I know. But the coat, like, I would say, like, if she's, if I'm waiting to come get in the car, yo, you need a little jacket. Walking on the outside of the curb is not for cars, by the way. What is it for? Back in the day,

there used to be no plumbing, so they used to throw the chamber pot out the window. That's what it's for. So you're sure you don't get splattered by the...

No. Yes. Because that's the case if she walk on the inside. She could be on the outside if that's the case. It's going to hit you. Exactly.

You would walk on the... Yeah. Maybe they wanted her. Maybe they wanted Shorty to get braided on. No, back in the day, It's going to hit you. Exactly. You would walk on it. Yeah. Maybe they wanted her. Maybe they wanted Shorty to get where he go. No, back in the day there were no sidewalks and shit like that.

So it wasn't no streets. If a car's coming down the block, it's wet, you would get the puddle instead of her. Or if a car, horse would ever jump the curb,

you would get hit. Horse jump the curb. You know what I mean. Yeah, I don't know about that pot out the window shit yo what the fuck are y'all doing

I'm so what are y'all doing right now we're breaking down chivalry man we're unpacking chivalry do y'all know how many millions of motherfuckers is listening to y'all

unpack the fucking birth of the sidewalk and what what the fuck hey you know young boys this is where accountability

becomes the issue I'm glad that you said the word this is what I've experienced I'll just throw this out there to try to advance this bullshit you're all doing and then we can get off of it accountability

if you're raised right you do all of this bullshit we're saying to a young lady chivalry opening doors the puddle you're giving the hoodies when they're cold you're doing it all offer the last piece of food she picks all the restaurants right and now if you're doing that while you're dating and you're dating multiple people and you're dating people who may not be experienced or accustomed to chivalrous men, then they may fall faster than they normally would

because you're exposing them to something. And now when that goes awry because you're not really feeling the same way that she's feeling, women will tell you that you have to take accountability for how you made her feel. And you'll stand there confused saying

but i was chivalrous no that's just to that you gentlemen say that's some bullshit yeah that is supreme bullshit that's deflecting my bad for being a gentleman no i get it i get the logic behind it but i don't agree with it i don't get that shit i don't get that i don't agree like yo i'm just treating you nicely Right Because you've never Had another dude Treat you nicely That doesn't mean that I've led you on I should let you go

Maybe you should've But maybe it doesn't But maybe it does mean that No If you're on the other side of it Yeah in her In her behalf In her brain

You are leading me on You took me to the best Restaurants in New York If you don't feel me like that Then why are you doing all of this And you like yo Anybody My homegirl could get this.

And I preface this with saying I have no experience in any of this. Don't start judging me and my romantic past. I hate when you niggas do that. Especially by the conversation. Sounds like a bird's eye to me. It just might be you. All right, fine. I don't care.

Why do you love birds? Well, why don't you? But yeah, that's it. I get the mental piece behind it. There's a balance. Yeah. There's a balance. And hopefully none of you men

have to go through that. So you're saying you should treat them a little less chivalrous? Exactly. I'm supposed to tone it down because you dated a bunch of pieces of shit? No. That's not my problem.

Well, discernment is. But how do you know that? And discernment... Yeah. How do I know what you've been through? It's like a girl cooking dinner for you. Well, that's discernment. Discernment is how do you know it? You discernment. Yeah. How do I know what you've been through? It's like a girl cooking dinner for you. Well, that's discernment. Discernment is how do you know it?

You don't. Look, a girl cooks dinner for you because that's just like she loves to cook. It's what she normally does. She wants to show off a little bit, let you know she can get busy in the kitchen. I'll take some Rasta Pasta. Yeah, but a dude's never had- Make it chunky. That's what I tell you.

A dude's never really had that. What, Rasta Basta? I'm following you Come on Alright my bad Yo Girl I mean A dude's never had that So he could take it

Like Shorty leading him on She not nigga This is just what I'm used to I'm used to cooking For my homeboys I'm the cook of the team Whatever the case may be And he could look at it

In the same light Man niggas need to Communicate more I rock with that That's all It's all balls just a certain level of treatment just because you've never been treated in a certain way that don't mean that it should be looked at in a slight when y'all don't work out correct bars you disagree no we don't but a lot of my views are twisted. Like, I think that exes should still be able to speak peacefully. Absolutely.

You should. Absolutely. I agree with that. All right, how's that going for you? It goes well. I don't really have any issues with none of my exes. None? It's some half and half.

I got some that just because they haven't let go of some things that we'll never have that. Well, I don't even mean that because that's cool. That's a given. How do your current relationships or most recent relationships, how did they feel about your ideology? That's cool in this household. God damn it. Yeah, I don't remember. She can talk to her exes.

That's why I just skip him. You ain't even looking over there. I wasn't talking to him at all, but give it to us. Everything's great, awesome, perfect. No, I'm not saying everything is great and awesome and perfect. I'm saying that I've dated a mature human being, so like. Well, that's what I'm saying. Secure.

I think security is more important. And see why mature is not fun to hear from on a podcast. Oh, there's lots of things I'm not worried about. All right. I have dated mature is not fun to hear from on a podcast. A lot of people don't worry about it. Well, all right. I have dated people that were a menace with that shit before, and it's no good, man. Yeah, I don't really have that many problems with it either. Same. It's all security.

Like, open, let you know, yo, this my homegirl, this what it is, it ain't none of that bullshit. No, but a homegirl that you used to pop. You get what I'm saying? You've had that. It's not that. And we are just cool and this is what it is. Oh, wait a second, y'all.

That's a different conversation too. Wait a second, buddy. That's a different conversation too. Let me just say, I was about to get back to the new music. Y'all not telling me that, what he just said,

that you have women that you were intimate with at one point that that you're no longer that way with you just have a cool relationship and your relationships are perfectly fine with that one too they may be they may not be perfectly fine but they they understand accepting accepting accepting yeah i think so yeah they may not be happy with it i just i don't even know about unhappyhappy with it It's just

I think as the dude You're supposed to use Your discretion So I think that Or girl Either or Like I won't be on the phone With you at one in the morning

Right I'm not gonna be on the phone With you for two hours no more You get what I'm saying But we can kick it And chop it up Every now and again How's life

How's da da da da da And we cool And we move on About our business But we not gonna be on the phone every single day or for hours

and hours and hours or at certain times of the night because it opens door for a potential problem at home and your partner's cool with that

no I said if you don't do those things got it you know what I'm saying but if I just chopped it up with a girl

that I used to talk to yeah on the flip side how do y'all feel about it I don't care how about the person I don't give a damn at all. Yo, round of applause for the perfect man.

No, it's not even a perfect man. It's literally just guys. No, no, no. Hold up, hold up. You got to learn how to stay away from people that are going to give you a headache about shit that shouldn't be a headache. Fam, I know people that, like, she had this or whatever. I don't give a fuck. I literally do not care.

Me neither. I just don't. You mind when your girls do that? Like, talk to their ex or something? Or just have a cordial, cool relationship? No, right? I don't give a fuck. Yeah.

I encourage it. Yeah, so why we got to be the perfect guys? Because I'm aware that I'm the minority. I'm also aware that in a room full of five it ain't gonna be all five men that's cool with that i'm not i'm not gonna i don't believe that you're not you're not hold on i'm playing the percentages but wait i don't believe that you're not in the room with just five men you're in a room with five real niggas that changes things oh talk this shit all right i'm not even trying to talk shit that changes things though

you get some some regular niggas in here they might not feel that way yeah but then i also have this thing where i don't believe my niggas about anything they say about what they do with women because what niggas coming back to the guy friend group just telling the truth about that shit give me the percentages. Enlighten me. Nah, some of the niggas in here have said things that are... I am a novice, and I am here to be enlightened. People in this pod have said things that weren't of popular opinion. Absolutely.

Me, Ice, you, everybody have said things that weren't necessarily of the popular opinion. And also, the three of the four people that have mics in front of us, at least, are in healthy relationships, long-term relationships. So, like, you would think that some of these things wouldn't really be an issue because that's why we're in a long-term relationship with these people. That's just pod talk. Yeah. See what I mean? Like, that's just pod talk. I don't know how healthy any of you niggas' relationships is.

I only know what we have said on this podcast. I don't assume. I try to mind my business in that regard. So, I'm just asking general shit. I'm not asking nothing to know new music what else came up back to Sabrina

oh I didn't mean to maybe it's fire I don't know is it well it's fire hey is that new Catronaut or no and this video is fire too

this is Sabrina Claudio put on repeat put Claudio put on repeat put on repeat put on repeat I know I know I know what cancel culture did in 2017 whenever that was I'm over it Oh, that's what I was gonna say I'm over it, I'm not They don't tell me who to listen to If any loves to compare me to wine Over and over he takes me I mean, it's better this time, yeah

So now he wants to put on a play Put on a play Put on a play Put on a play Put on on a fight, put on a fight, put on a fight. Well, there's that. Put on a fight, put on a fight, put on a fight. Well, there's that. That's that on that. Sounds good.

Sounds great. Sounds like a Viagra waiting to happen. That's what it sounds like to me. Helps keep your feet warm too. Forgot that part. Fucking parts. You could be on the balcony barefoot.

Hey, you good. You getting it? Yo, that's good. Wait, I want to go back really quick because you guys are amazing why so just so I'm clear

each of the men in here support their exes finding love and happiness after them finding love After them. Hmm? Finding love.

My ex is there? Oh, yeah. My ex. I mean, when you first break up with him, you don't want that. Yeah, you don't necessarily be in that head space or that emotional space. You're right. In certain situations, you might be like, please go. Oh, okay. It depends.

I've never been there. Like, if I broke up with somebody that I love and I care about, you don't be immediately on your mace shit. Like, I want to see you happy even if it ain't with me. No. But that's not. That line sounds like her breaking up with him. Like, I'm talking about if you broke up with her, you might be. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, you were the initiator. Joe didn't specify. He just said. He said to break up X's. After, yeah. Because I don't care who did the breaking up. That matters.

That does matter. It matters. For real? Yes. I don't think it matters either. That's crazy. I think it depends. Oh my God.

You see why we need men meetings, yo? I don't think it matters. Okay, it's fine. Moving on. What else we got? Oh, listen, dog. What's this one? This is Megan Thee Stallion and Shinsia

I'm not familiar this is not I don't have the range me either it's called lick pass I'm not what do you want me to do

sorry cool ladies let me know if it's fire though y'all let me know if y'all are throwing this on when you grab the aux

I don't have the range. When you get to licking. Yeah. I like all the colors, though. I do, but I just like colors in videos. Is that all for new music? I don't know anything else. Actually, I do know something else, but I'm saving it for my sleeper.

Okay. Gotcha. All right, what else is important? All right, I got you. I got y'all don't worry about it you fucking music we can stay on music yeah we can stay on music the uh super bowl halftime show trailer did you see it oh man yes amazing yeah it wasn't playing fam i i was like hype yeah wow i don't know who even did the trailer this shit is amazing i thought

i read someone someone big like conceptually it's dope the eminem part is amazing. I thought I read someone big did it. Like, conceptually, it's dope. The Eminem part is amazing. Yeah. All of it is amazing. Yeah, this is dope. Gary Gray directed it. Yeah, that's what I thought it was. That's Gary Gray.

That makes sense. Nah, this was crazy. Super Bowl put out their trailer for their halftime show which features Eminem, Snoop Dogg, Mary J. Blige,

Dr. Dre, and Kendrick Lamar. Am I forgetting anyone? I think that's everyone. That's it. That's it, I think. 50 should be there, but he's not. He probably will.

Yeah, I'm sure he'll probably pop up. What a lineup. I'm positive this will attract viewership. The trailer looks great. And just by the names featured, you can just imagine how this is going to go. Oh, yeah. It's going to be crazy.

Who sets it off? Dre. Yo, that's a to be crazy. Who sets it off? Dre. Yo, that's a heavy. Dre. You don't really. He was the first to drop, I guess. So, yeah. Dre probably sets it off.

It's Dre. Yeah, because Dre. Maybe he goes in order. Yeah, he might. He should go in order. It should be Dre. Then it should be Snoop. Then it should be M.

And then it should be Kendrick. Well, Mary. Where's Mary falling? But Mary's going to gonna she can go anywhere let the queen end it off she can go anywhere she can go at the end

she can go in the middle she can come out and break up any one of them 50 can do the same 50 can do that too it's gonna be an amazing show I can't wait to see it I cannot wait

where's where's the Super Bowl being held this year LA makes all the sense in the universe I still have the Rams going I haven't wavered from that pick I don't know I'm starting to feel iffy being held this year? LA. Makes all the sense in the universe. I still have the Rams going.

I haven't wavered from that pick. I'm starting to feel iffy. I said now he wants the Rams to go. I said now I definitely want the Rams to go. I feel you.

Because that'll be crazy. This is not LA team in LA with the best legendary LA. What are you starting to feel iffy on? The Bucs might get there. But what was your other take?

I thought the Rams were going to beat the Bucs this week. Oh, no. They're getting them. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye, Bucs. We'll do more predictions. Bye-bye, Bucs.

Yeah, we'll get into more predictions. Wyatt is here now. Bye-bye, Bucs. It's been great. Tom. You, you. You, you. Hey, every time they try to bring an injured player back,

like when Cardinals said, oh, J.J. Watt's coming back. Like, yeah, I bet. Whatever. What I know. Yeah, you better call anybody you can. Call Cardinals greatest hits. So Leonard Fournette said he's coming back. He's putting it on.

That's your man. Worfs is back. That's your fantasy, dude. He is. I understand. Worfs coming back. He's putting it on. That's your man. Worf's back. That's your fantasy dude. I understand. Bye-bye, Leonard. Bye-bye, Tristan Worf. Oh, no. Enjoy your yachts.

That's Tom, man. I know. I've learned my lesson from betting against Tom. And Tom getting his team back healthy. Yo, did y'all hear that they might potentially move the Super Bowl location? No, I did not. Where? There were some rumbles in that, yeah.

Vegas or Arizona. I feel like it's too much money involved for them to do it. Yeah, because of COVID. COVID's bad out there, I guess. Because of COVID. I don't care. Wherever it is, I'm watching it. No, I'm just saying it changes the whole overall L.A. feel.

I mean, if it's in Vegas or Arizona, it's pretty close. Vegas is pretty close. It's close, but it's still different. For sure. That's a lot. If they change it, you guys will just have to deal with it. I was just saying that. My living room will still be the location. I'm going to be in the metaverse anyway. Is everyone

having Super Bowl parties even with COVID and whatever? Yep. In the meta. I'm boosty. You'll be in the meta? Yeah, for sure. Got it. It'll be light. I'm not no crazy huge partner. I might be at your house. I'm sure you'll be doing something snazzy.

Chicken wing dip, I'm sure. I didn't offer that to anyone. Yo, you know this. Niggas don't offer. We don't wait for you to offer. Yo, we coming to town. I didn't say I was inviting anybody. No food planned.

Fam, I hit, since we on your crib, I hit Corby by going to the spot. I was like, yo, want to come to the spot and watch the game? Nah, going to Joe's. Nobody spoke to Joe about going to Joe's. At all. We ain't get no invite. Talk to him. We don't need an invite to go to Joe's.

That's my point. That's tough being that guy. Just show up. Give me your other predictions while we're here. I got to get my fan duel. Fan duel. Drafts can't. Drafts can't.

I'm getting to it. I'm going to set you up. Yeah, you say that. I'm ready to go. I'm leaning Titans now. Definitely going Chiefs now. I'm going Bengals. I might reverse all my fucking picks.

I think the 49ers might go in there and fuck around and sneak it out. Sneak what up? Oh, you just high. You know something? You'd have had an edible. I hate these dudes. They can't never pick a side of the fence. They just waver all fucking week.

Pick something and stand strong. That may be a need to do. The last podcast, I was coming off a wildcard weekend feeling high about the teams that we just saw going crazy. And now that I'm sitting back and thinking about it,

I don't think the Bills are going to Kansas City and pulling off nothing. I think the Titans, with fucking Derrick Henry back, are going to ground and pound their fucking bangles to death. I think that Tom Brady, I'm never betting against him, and he's getting his weapons back and his offensive line back. And then the Niners in Green Bay in zero-degree temperature is going to be a low-scoring affair. And the Niners are equipped for that. No, it's not.

Okay. Low scoring. No. What is he talking about? The hell is he talking about? They play there. Wait, before we continue. Parks, you my guy.

I love you, yo. They play there. What the fuck? You ain't called to them. Can you shut up? We have really persevered through some things, man. You my guy. You know that there's a whole hive out there that says parks shouldn't talk sports.

Okay. Same way Ish has it for music. Do you know that? Do you care about them? No. Absolutely not. All right. So low scoring for who?

Give it to us. I think it's going to be a 17 to 10 ballgame. Yo, please put DraftKings on my phone or FanDuel or something. Before we leave today, I'm going to put it on there. Next break. Thank you. Next break, I got you. Packers by a pack.

Packers by a pack. Sorry, Niners. You guys are tough. You can't say time is time. Yeah, it's fine. Aaron Rodgers has lost to the Niners a bunch of times in the playoffs and in the regular season. Last time he saw them, he smoked them in 38 seconds.

Last time he saw them, they won by a field goal at the last second. Because Aaron Rodgers drove them up the field in 38 seconds effortlessly. We'll see. Y'all know my picks. I got the Rams. I have the Packers. I have the Bengals. And I have the Chiefs.

I have all those except the Rams. And I don't really have it being too many close games. The Bills and the Chiefs might be the closest one. That's going to be a shootout. But I got the Chiefs smoking the Bills' boots again. Nah, that's going to be a shootout. But I got the Chiefs smoking the Bills' boots again. That's going to be a shootout. I got the Packers smoking the fuck out of the Niners. The Bengals are going to smoke the Titans.

I know y'all keep telling me about who Mike Vrabel. Vrabel. Vrabel. I'm here to tell y'all the Titans apparently have the worst defense against the long ball this season or something horrific. Want me to tell you who has the best long ball since like week six? It's him. Joe Burrow.

Bengals by two touchdowns. Sorry, Mike Vrabel. Derrick Henry, you're not right yet. You're not right yet. Not even going to run the ball. You're rushing for nothing. You're rushing for nothing. Hey, don't worry because you ain't even going to be out there really.

You ain't going to be out there really. Don't even worry about it, Derek. Salute. We shall see. How do you see him make no picks? My picks, I got the Bengals. I'm taking the Bucs because I'm never betting against Tom. I will take the Packers and the Chiefs.

Yeah, that's all mine. And you already took all my picks. No, that's all my picks. I ain't rocking with your Ram shit. Got it. Even though I want to see the Rams win it for the whole LA shit, I'm just not betting against Tom. I can't.

I understand. Moving on. Let's see. What else is important? While we're on music, Jay-Z and Meek Mill team up to block rap lyrics from being used in court. I feel like we've had this discussion before. We've definitely had this discussion about rap lyrics being used in court but i think we had it in instances where lyrics were being used they were being used to

prosecute that's what i'm saying i definitely remember off the top of my head them being used against uh melly that i know oh wait there's another one that they use it didn't this is just off the head is it kegler no there's one of them there's another one that's in there there's another one i see was a video no there's somebody else that's locked up it'll come to me i'm not so well versed on the young guys um trying to was in fuji jay-z is a leading uh is leading a list of music industry titans throwing their support behind a proposed New York state law that aims to stop prosecutors from using rap lyrics as purported blueprints to alleged crimes. Rolling Stone has learned.

Hey, yo, when we do this, can you put whatever we're reading on the actual screen? Sean Carter is teaming up with Meek Mill, Big Sean, Fat Joe, Kelly Rowland, Yo Gotti, Killer Mike, Robin Thicke, and others as celebrity signatories on a new letter urging state lawmakers and ultimately government Kathy Hochul, hopefully I'm pronouncing her name correctly, to make the recent proposed bill titled Rap Music on Trial a state law. This is interesting. Well, how could you not support it?

I don't even understand how this is even coming before. It's like almost nobody would take fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger or Sylvester Stallone and put them on trial because they played in a movie. Right. And a lot of these rappers is fucking acting. Hold on. If Arnold Schwarzenegger or Sylvester Stallone made a biographical movie and acted out crimes that they committed, they would use that. That's what they've been kind of doing. All of these niggas is not biographical movie and acted out crimes that they committed they would use that

that's what they've been kind of doing all of these niggas is not biographical half of these niggas wouldn't bust a grape in the fruit fight they not killers

all these rap niggas ain't killers that talk about rapping about killing people sum up it's a very small group in my opinion you know more than me

I don't know of all these niggas that's going to do nothing niggas getting punched in they face and they don't do shit much less shoot somebody i'm with you and i don't want to sound like i'm against this because i'm i'm all for this but i think a lot of today young rappers are big on the authenticity thing there's a lot of people that are actually living some shit that they rapping about i don't even mean killings well catch him then but wait i'm not police

working catch him but see that's where my problem comes in it goes back to what i said before about putting so much out there like a lot of this shit is coming into play social media being used you're showing pictures of you doing shit you're showing videos you're rapping about y'all doing shit stop i ain't even getting into that you i'm not disagreeing with you i'm just saying that so you shouldn't be allowed to take something that somebody is using to entertain the masses as music or art and bring it up in trial because there are tons of instances where these people are not committing these atrocities that they rap about way more instances where they're lying or fabricating.

Exactly. Well, fabricating, exaggerating. But I don't think, I don't know the numbers on this. I don't know how many people are being dragged in court for raps that they didn't do. I don't know that. A lot of the New York rappers. A lot of the New York rappers. Are being dragged in for shit that they didn't do?

The younger kids, absolutely. Okay, see, he knows. I'm just saying that you wouldn't do this to an actor. You wouldn't do this to a performer that's just singing a song or some shit that's written by somebody else and bring them to court and say, you acted out this. That's all I'm saying. And I think it's a parallel there. Of course, one is way heavier, but I think it's a parallel there. Well, I have to support this just on the side of artistic expression.

Yeah, absolutely. I have to support this just on the side of artistic expression. Yeah, absolutely. Enough enough. They wouldn't bring in no country music stars for fucking rapping about

their guns and all types of shit that they be doing. Correct. And I am 100% supportive of this as well. I don't want anybody taking that the wrong way.

I think it's a deeper issue, but that's... And on the flip side, don't be lazy in making your case. Yeah, do your police work. Do your due diligence if these gentlemen

did what you say then prove it give the proper evidence prove it go get the evidence make sure it ain't tampered with put it in discovery

just prove your case that is never mind no that's not no it's not no it is not a lyric is not no it is not

fam if I shot somebody and I put a record out tomorrow and said yeah yesterday you know we ran down on this nigga, caught him, he had on his blue jeans, I shot him in this. I'm giving you that. I'm giving you your case. Now prove it. So, yeah, then he go out and prove it. But I'm giving you something.

If I don't give you that, I make your job harder. I'm saying the rappers should stop making their jobs easy. I agree. That's it. But I'm just saying, I'm going to take the clue that you gave me, and now I'm going to try and make it come true. Correct. Now, when I go to court, they're going to say, well, what made you do this? Well, he said this, so this led me to this, which led me to this, which led me to that.

We found a video showing him with the blue and yellow one. Correct. So that's why I'm saying that if I don't say that. All right, then let's just turn this into minority report then and if that's the case yeah if you're just about to lock me up for things that i said in a rap that happened to coincide with an actual crime i mean well yeah cool but you're killing artistic expression i should be able to say whatever the fuck i want within boundary of the song. And it have absolutely no bearing on the case. I disagree with that.

And I disagree. In general, not about this. In general. And I disagree the minority report. I think that somebody should be able to have a fleeing thought and not be persecuted for it. True. Yeah, yes.

Just because I dreamed it, it was a thought in my head. And if I dreamed it, that don't mean I carry out the act. But you shouldn't take me to jail if what i dreamt happened to happen true right i'm uh never mind y'all got it that i stand on it because i don't want i don't want to come off the wrong way like i'm really just saying if i did something and i spoke on what i did and then that led investigators to piece it together i don't see the problem in that because i shouldn't have spoken on it i agree you're dodo for even bringing it up that's all i'm saying but you got to do your police work to prove me wrong yes you can't take my statement and use it as evidence to send me away prove it

nigga find a weapon find a body find some witnesses find all of that shit that you are getting paid to do and do it i'm gonna hit the round of applause because i support this as we all support it yes as we all do and i hope they succeed i'm saying that as someone that plans on obeying the law but man have I said some shit that could jam you up that's horrible that'd be disgusting anyway I'm getting my brain off of that

what else we got what else is important do you guys want to discuss Britney Spears talking to her sister every other day there's a lot going on over there I don't even pay attention to it no more as a one time proponent of free a one-time proponent of Free Britney, and still a proponent of Free Britney,

I'm starting to understand why they may have fought to not Free Britney for a long time. It seems like she's... It's sad that the dad got a total of $36 million or something while she was in there. Because she seems very erratic and making

brash but that's her ain't that her right she could be erratic that mean you could steal my bread that mean you could use the money

that I've worked for because you don't like what I might say that don't mean the money that I've worked for and bust my ass for you get to keep nor use at your discretion

it's mine I'm erratic I'm erratic I'm worth this I can be erratic if I feel like it Kanye's erratic my ass for you get to keep nor use at your discretion i'm a radic i'm a radic i'm a radic i can be a radic if i feel like it is a radic they said that she didn't even want to do certain jobs like uh the vegas residency i read she didn't even want to do it she was forced to do it because she not controlling her contractual her life period You don't have the power to do that, fam. I could be really on the far left end of the spectrum or whatever the fuck may be,

but I made that money. You don't get to keep my bread. You might be able to get some sort of control over my children because there might be potential harm to them

or something like that. But my finances and all that other shit is a whole different ballgame. He wasn't shooting in the gym. All I guess I'm saying is that I'd be interested to hear the other side now.

We never heard the other side. The other side of what? I don't need to hear the other side. Wait, the other side of what? The other side of the Free Britney movement. What the father... Why she wasn't freed? Yeah.

Why do we care? Why do we care what he thinks oh shit I'm just saying hold on why do we care what he thinks though I'm saying that if all of this indication is that she is not in very much control of herself and her actions that maybe she should have someone looking after her

as far as stealing all her money and all that shit maybe not but what did she say that she should have someone looking after her. As far as stealing all her money and all that shit, maybe not. But what did she say that she should have smacked her mother and her sister? Like, I'm asking. This is like a month into her freedom. Fam, you've been locked,

held captive in your life for a decade. Damn, longer than that. Longer than that. This is her first taste of freedom ever so i got a lot of shit to get off my chest it might take me three months so true that could be true this shit has been pent up for a long time when i finally get free i'm gonna let these motherfuckers have it oh i'm free'm free now. OK, you got some bars coming your way. You got some bars coming your way.

Oh, I ain't done yet. Sit your ass down. I got more bars for you. And she won't keep cooking. I don't think nobody. She said she's an adult. I don't think nobody could. I'm not even on the finances part.

Like if she want to get on Instagram every day and lash out, that's her right. And this is what I'll jump in on the back of that and say we don't talk enough about sibling hate we don't especially when you're a kid it's a mega star to keep it a buck maddy y'all hate your fucking sibling older or younger so i try to put myself in the position of britney spears oh little fuck. Did I put some money in there? This little bitch. Look at my little fucking sister. Who the fuck

was you before I made this shit pop? Why the hell do you have a Nickelodeon special? And why are you writing a book? Who the fuck are you? I've been looking at you in the house the whole time since you was born. You wouldn't be you.

You ain't done shit in the house. You wouldn't be you if it wasn't for me. And you got the nerve to pop fly. Oh, why I oughta. Now, I could see her feeling that way. And you potentially watched some things that took place and you were mute

when those things were going on you might deserve some Merry Christmas you never know maybe and that's what she's saying I should have smacked you in your fucking face I hate the innocence that

people have right this is what I hate let me try to word it properly Zen Joe I hate when that people who we have no idea how their perception has been shaped are able to give you a perception that you probably only care about because of somebody who went out and made perception.

That's what I don't like. Britney ain't all the way, might not be all the way together, Parks. I'm with you. But at least we kind of got a lot of information as to why. I don't really know enough about her little sister. I just know that she writing a book or she put out a book and the book is based off of her opinion of shit and shit that she's seen why is she not have the right to say that though she does she do but your whole entire book keep it a book you're only gonna sell the book because niggas want to see what the fuck went on behind closed doors about me and our life so of course you have the right to exploit of course the relationship or lack of relationship because i never really

fucked with you she She said that too. So yeah, that's your right to exploit it. But it's my right to feel a way and respond however I see fit. Everybody got rights. That's true. I'm not with nobody saying that. I be seeing people say, damn, maybe they shouldn't have freed her. I'm not with that.

I don't care what she's out here doing. She ain't harming nobody. My point was just that we never really heard the other side. That's all. I think for good reason. Yeah. Because the other side was heard. They had mad court proceedings.

No, the other side has been controlling the media for the better part of a decade. That part too. The other side is putting out the narrative that they want to push to justify keeping her locked up

and controlling all of her assets. Touche. You feel what I'm saying? Like the other side had the media pump and the publicists and all that other shit. A judge heard it for years. A judge read letters for years.

Somebody heard something. I mean. Round of applause to Sister Brittany. Yeah, get your shit off, Brittany. Go ahead. I sent a couple of wild tweets and Instagram posts out too from time to time. Yeah, but no, sincerely, I hope that she's doing well.

Me too. Because again, we don't know what could have potentially mentally affected this girl. Her kids getting taken, et cetera, et cetera. That shit is crazy. I don't know. Did y'all want to talk about that Complex list? We could. We could, yeah.

I think it's interesting. Complex apparently put out a list of the best rappers of every year dating back to 1979. I'm not mad. What that means is that the best rapper alive wasn't the same person every year.

There was a couple repeats. Well, of course. A bunch of repeats, actually. All right, let's just give it a quick run through. In 79, Grandmaster Kaz. Actually, before we give it a quick run through, I want to double back, circle back to that Super Bowl conversation. Because this is exactly how I think that happened.

It's not spoken about enough. What's that? Snoop is the man, yo. He is. I know you say that a lot. Huge fan. Music reasons. You say it a lot because he's arguably the most popular rapper alive.

Most famous, certainly. Today. He is. He is. But watching the Super Bowl commercial, seeing Snoop with his new position at Def Jam seeing the role he's playing in younger artists career paths now

his brand genius marketing genius his work ethic today you totally forget that this is the guy that made bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks gin and juice i was sitting i was sitting here eating breakfast with my mom and i was in awe of snoop and his greatness and i was like yo this guy was on trial for murder and nobody knows it and my mom looked at me and said oh he was i didn't know yeah awesome

said oh he was i didn't know yeah awesome dope why do you have to know it's not it's not important what a story but you will know because 50 is doing a story about it yeah you'll see it and that'll remind the youth of i think that when your legacy carries the youth has no choice but to respect it because the world respects it. The problem with longevity sometimes is we never stopped to acknowledge your legacy because you're still going till you die. Yes. Or they forget about where you were great in other areas. Yeah. And we don't acknowledge that.

Like I look at ice cube, I look at Will Smith and I remember a time that they ruled my hip-hop life. My son probably don't know that, but he knows who they are because of what they do today. I kept seeing pictures of LL Cool J. I forgot what he was doing, but he's NCIS. He's doing his thing. I think recently was one of his albums anniversary. Yeah, and there was an article about why he stopped making music.

He did an interview. I think it was some old shit that they rehashed. But I'm just saying, LL's another one, right? Some niggas that have been around for 30 years, Joe. 40 years almost. Yeah. But for the kids, if you're still going, that's my only downside to longevity. Because they don't know because they don't know they don't know but it's the my they know of

you yeah but they don't know about you they don't know what you was doing they don't really know they don't know the ll was the nicest rapper in the world for most of the 80s and early 90s but that's what everything though no you don't that acting. Like, niggas don't know who Sidney Poitier is. Niggas don't know that Denzel was that dude that every woman in America liked and wanted to bone. Like, they don't understand that. I had another one of my feeling old moments recently this week.

And listen, I hear you guys out there, the audience, you guys tell me that I say my age every podcast. That's something to be proud of. You happy? Yeah, but I guess it probably does get annoying. Shut up. We know. I understand. But right, I'm keeping up with the Knicks. Trade deadline is in February. The Knicks been

playing like shit. There's a lot of rumors out there. And one of them that is gaining a lot of momentum is the Knicks are going to make a smaller move to acquire Jalen Brunson Jalen Brunson is a point guard uh good on both ends of the floor he plays for the Mavericks he's doing great having a good season and I heard the guy say yeah the Knicks are in play with this because of their ties to his dad. I almost dropped the phone. Fuck. Is this Rick Brunson's kid?

You ain't know that? Yeah. Dang. Yeah. I mean, I figured you would have knew that because they say it a lot. Like, every time they bring him up, they talk about his father. I think he an assistant coach now or something? Or he do something in the office? But I try not to view the young players like that because it reminds me of just how old I am.

Like, a lot of the players we see, their dads, like these are their kids. Gary Payton. All of them. We were around in there. Christian McCaffrey's dad was a dog. When I found that out, that fucked me up. Patrick Sertain's dad was a dog. And we saw their dads in their prime.

They was the man. So now these kids is out here getting busy. Like, it's funny to me. It's funny to watch. Like, LeBron, his story, like, yo, I'm staying on the court until my kid gets here. Like, that's some unbelievable shit. That's insane. That Kobe and Mike didn't give us.

Sorry that I do that, but it's a Legends game. Yeah, that's what it is. What did you do different from the legends that you pulled from? Where did you take it that they didn't? But even to your argument, Jokers don't know what Michael Jordan was. These kids really don't know what Magic and Jordan, they don't know.

They seen a little bit of footage, but if you wasn't there and you seen them go up and switch hands. Dwayne Wade said the other day that in X amount of years, the kids will no longer speak about Mike in the same gold conversation that we do. I believe it. He said it'll be to the point where they didn't see it. They weren't here for it. They don't remember it.

He said it'll be the same as we do with Will Chamberlain and Kareem. Oscar Robinson. The only thing that he has a leg up on is his brand with the shoes and everything. And videos. Like with Oscar Robinson and them, you can't just go see every game. You could go really find all of Michael Jordan footage. Kids are spending $600 for their Oscar Robertsons. Who cares?

They don't care about that. Because all that happens is, even with Michael Jordan, with the conversation, you know what they say? Oh, he was doing that against Mailman and such and such and such. Like, it was a different league. They try to downplay. They say that about Michael Jordan? Yes. Yes, absolutely. Against Mailman? Yes. They're a whole list going around. No, I. Like, it was a different league. They tried to downplay. They said that about Michael Jordan? Yes.

Yes, absolutely. Against Mailman? Yes. There are a whole list going around. No, Will was doing it. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. But for Mike, there are lists going around of the two guards that were also in the league when he was there.

It's like, look who you was torturing. Yeah. I'm not going to be the person to say it. But as I age, I mean, I don't know. I'm seeing some things. You're seeing some things. You appreciate the game differently. But all for sports.

Did you finish the list? Yeah, I sent it over. All right, we are good. Complex. Best rapper every year since 79. 79, Grandmaster Kaz. I'll just go. Curtis Blow.

Kumo D. Melly Mel. Run, run. Pause. As I age, and now that I am old and know the backstory to walk this way. Backstory? What you mean? Yeah, just the marketing and what they did.

Took the number one round groove and then tried to merge such and such. I don't know. That's a problem. Yeah. still a slap worked no before before Walk This Way

and after Walk This Way niggas still was they changed culture fact like don't do that I'm specifically talking about Walk This Way

not Run DMC I'm not stupid and I'm from Queens I'm specifically talking about Walk This Way, not Run DMC. I'm not stupid, and I'm from Queens. I'm only talking about Walk This Way, the marketing behind it, the branding behind it, and what the genius execs did at the time with that. Back then, I didn't know. Now that I know, it's like, interesting. That's it. Oh, no, because you're saying, uh, like, uh.

Yeah. Yeah. That's how I feel LL Cool J KRS-One Rock Him Slick Rick Big Daddy Kane Ice Cube

and y'all can stop me at any juncture that y'all wanna jump in 91 Q-Tip 92 niggas disrespect Tretcher 91

give it to Q-Tip that's the one yep yep yep yep but Q I mean Tretcher fam you can't overlook

Tretcher 91 give it to Q-Tip never and Trash. Fam, you can't overlook Trash in 91 and give it to Q-Tip. Never. And I like Q-Tip. Can't do that to Trash, though. I agree. Trash should have been one of them years.

91? Early 90s. 91? 91. And you could have gave it to Q-Tip in a different year. I was about to argue with you, but you won me over.

Yeah. Thank you. Because 91 for Q-Tip is a war tour. Yeah, maybe so. Maybe. It wasn't lower end theory or none of that. Well, maybe it wasn't.

93, I think. 93, I think. All right, so yeah, it wasn't 91. Why is Q-Tip the hottest rapper in 91? Tretch was that dude, my nigga. He was. Q-Tip shouldn't be in there. Tretch was global in 91.

Not that year. Anyway, Redman, Snoop Dogg, Nas, 94, Big, 95, Tupac, 96, Big, 97, X, 98, Hov, 99, Eminem, 2000, Hov, 01, Eminem, 02, 50 Cent, 03, T.I., 04, GZ, 05, T.I. 0-4, GZ 0-5, Wayne 0-6, Ye 0-7, Wayne 0-8, Jay-Z, Kanye, Drake, Drake, Kendrick, Nicki, Drake, Chance, Kendrick, Pusha T. When was Chance the best rapper alive ever? I would never... He was the biggest thing that year. That year was his from a from a heat

standpoint. I mean, if you want to talk about greatest rappers alive then Kanye, you could argue should never be there because other people

wrote his raps or you could start nitpicking. He can still put out the best project. But I don't think they mean rapper as in rapping ability.

I think they mean rapper that owned the year. So this is the hot list. That's what I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I think. Like, yeah, yeah. That's what I think. Like, even, no disrespect to Big,

in 97, you could have put a Mase there. In 97, you could have put a Mase there. You could have. I don't know. Life After Death was the one that year. I mean, that album was amazing, though. You can't knock Big for 97. You can't. The double 97. You can't.

The double CD, you can't. But Mase could have had a hashtag or a slash or some parentheses. It was probably in the, they had like an honorable mention for each one of these years

by the way. Oh, okay. That we did not write down. It was Tretch, the honorable mention for 91. He was. Okay. Awesome.

Yeah. And they gave a little, even with the honorable mentions they kind of broke it down. They broke it down. They had paragraphs for that all the time. A round of applause. This is actually really, they did mentions, they kind of broke it down. They broke it down. They had paragraphs for each person. This is actually really, they did a good job.

It's not a bad listing. No, I'm mad at you. You got to applaud the good list when they happen. Honestly, yeah. They're few and far in between. And the unique ones. This is a very unique list.

Way to go, whoever did this at Complex. Yeah. Who wrote this? Do we know? I'll tell you. Hold on one second. But they seem to have done a good job.

It's a whole staff, Complex staff. Oh, they had like a big meeting job. It's a whole staff, complex staff. Oh, they had like a big meeting. And then to finish it off, because we stopped at 16. 2017 was Kendrick Lamar and 2018 was Pusha T. And that's where their list stopped. So you're talking about damn near 40 years of hip hop and we only had maybe two potential. Yeah.

It's not bad at all. And they let us get our show money so kind of them nah that's dope what else is going on what else is important music

the Fugees announced that they cancelled their reunion tour water is wet that just gets your feathers going nah nah

go ahead that just gets ice going. Go ahead, Ice. Yeah, go ahead. It doesn't. Get your shit off, yo. No, because it was canceled due to the pandemic. That's why.

Ice, get your shit off, yo. Go ahead, man. I'm shutting up. What's the pandemic? The floor is yours. Lauryn Hill? The floor is yours. I'm not going to say I told you so.

I'm not. Okay. Psych. I told you so I'm not Okay Psych I told you nigga so I told you when it was announced That this wasn't happening They did I hope y'all don't get Y'all money back

If y'all bought tickets Hey yo the fucked up part is This nigga really did Say that though That's the fucked up part Cause I'm not stupid Y'all knew it But y'all love Lawrence so much

Y'all didn't wanna say it I said what y'all Were afraid to say. That's all. The COVID numbers have been spiking as of late. Know what else has been spiking? The bullshit numbers.

I too would be a little cautious in organizing. Yeah, before procuring a tour. Also with the recent deaths and tragic events that have happened. Boy, you good, yo. We might want to

scale this back for now. Let's leave it on the table. But let's just wait a second. Okay. I'm shocked and heartbroken. I too am saddened by this news. I'm saddened by the happiness that Ice delivers it with. Yeah. I want to see one of these shows. I'd be wrong a lot this news. I'm saddened by the happiness that Ice delivers it with.

Yeah. I want to see one of these shows. I like that. I be wrong a lot. So when I'm right, I got to stand up and bask in my rightness. Ice got one. He ain't got one in a while. Go ahead and give him Ice.

All right. New Ice and Ash. That's it. Gotcha. Thoughts and prayers. To the fans who fell for that shit yo do we have a release date for 2 Chainz's album

that you told me was dropping two weeks ago that's a very good question somebody told me February 4th I don't know he hasn't I haven't seen a date anymore so I don't know

I know what I heard from the album is he still in Def Jam yes So I don't know. I know what I heard from the album. Is he still in Def Jam? Yes. I tell you one thing. Gunna and Thug and them niggas start saying, pushing Pete. And now you see all these companies popping up saying it's the power of hip hop, boy.

I think it's disgusting too. But they're marketing to us. They're taking from us to market to us. It sounds familiar. Nah, they just trying to look hip. Go get your shit off, cook. Cook. It's bullshit.

That's all it is. It's bullshit. We got to start being smarter. We stupid. We got to start being smarter. We fall for the bullshit right away. Every time they do shit. some get some spanky from your musing your shit you gotta start trademarking all that shit you gotta start

spanky is money younger to the young we're gonna put it back in the 70s because yeah we're gonna put an ish ebonics meter on the bottom of the screen guys a fool yo just throwing that out but that's tough i, it's hard to copyright something that's slang and just colloquial in a certain... You know what I mean? And you know the other thing?

You can trademark that shit. So there's no datum. I don't know. The other thing is, you know, the rappers are using shit that they can wrap around an emoji

to make it easier to market as well. Yeah. And then the companies it's just latching on. That's all it is. What you mean? So the push and pee thing,

you know, well, in the emojis there's a pee emoji. I seen the little blue square with the pee. Everyone wants to have an emoji they can associate.

Yeah, everyone wants to attach to an emoji. Manage Ray Schremer. Go ahead. They have a couple popular songs out there. My bad. So, yeah, it's all clout chasey, though. He catch one, and then everybody sees it, so they want to attach to it.

I see more. No, I ain't going to say the names. And Ice, you stopped me when I was trying to congratulate Gunna for beating out The Weeknd on a number one release. You told me it wasn't true but you were wrong i was wrong yeah so now that i know you was wrong get your shit off that ain't funny that's hilarious they stopped the numbers and was like hold up now we can't put these out yet wait wait when i found a whole story of what happened i'm like oh no now weekend is my man and this don't have nothing to do with weekend.

So I hate that. This seems like a weekend conversation. This is a label shit. This is a label tricks and label gimmicks and labels. Not one another label to have the number one while one of our big artists is releasing. So how many are we short? Add that 4,000 on there,

please. Thank you very much. We'll take that in bulk. Easy money. What'd you charge? No matter. Can I ask y'all a question? What?

Yeah, I think this comes from, this is like the weekend. You can't blackball somebody of that size. But it just seemed like since he did that shit with the Grammys, they kind of been off him a little bit. Like even him saying, yo, we not gonna roll an album out

we just gonna do it could be because they ain't really fucking with me like that because I've upset some higher ups. But the Grammys it doesn't really have anything to do with record sales. The Grammys and the labels are like this though. True.

So if you my big artist over here and we're like this with the Grammys and now you don't want to fuck with the Grammys. Do a record sales. Yeah, but I need to. All right. Well now I'm,

you know, I'm gonna make you not my big artists no more. I'm gonna show you that you got to play ball with us. We playing ball with them. And if you don't want to play ball with them, then you don't play ball. Why they don't do it with like a Drake or any of the other artists that have, uh,

had similar stances against the Grammys. It's a draw. What do you mean? Drake is probably the biggest draw in hip-hop. No. The biggest draw is outside of hip-hop. Did they have others, though? I would have to know more about the weekend's gripe

with the Grammys. From what it looked like i'm pretty sure drake was nominated all through his gripes may have may have even won when he was griping this is what happened from what was reported before he did the super bowl oh that's what happened yeah and because of that he wasn't doing Grammys. And they didn't nominate his album for anything. Yeah. Yeah, but the label would want the Super Bowl. So I don't know.

The label would want the Grammys, too. But they want the Super Bowl more than the Grammys. More people watch the Super Bowl than watch the Grammys. Indeed. By a lot. And the label might have been on board with putting behind him at both but when he says nah i'm cool like it's like interesting take it is interesting that is it's like yo you're acting a little bit bigger than then it's like i gotta remind you you know crack the whip a little

remind you who you are and you know the artist that usually performs usually wins so and you know he ain't get nominated for nothing and it's hard to nominate the project and let it lose because it was a it was a big project it was a great project so you're not performing we're not going to nominate you for anything because we can't we're not going to have you win all these awards and you're not even here and you won't perform. Listen, it's possible. I just don't think that someone that is successful

and is valuable to a label as The Weeknd is, they would be trying to bury. I don't mean bury. It could just be a little, it could be a little straightening. Just got to show you

where you stand, put you in your place. Maybe. Get it, we'll get it right, we'll get it right the next time. Because we can't do it like bundles and stuff like that? With this project?

No, in previous projects, because they stopped counting the bundles, and this might be his first project since the bundles. I think he did have... Yeah, he did, right? Yeah. I think he did have a bundle. That could have a lot to do with it, too.

And we'll see how that affects all the other artists that did bundle shits, because a lot of them haven't dropped. This Weekend release does feel like it was without some of the support that is normally present. That's all I can say for fat. I'm just guessing why, but yeah.

You can see the support wasn't there. I go back to that screenshot he posted of the text message saying, let's not roll it out. Let's just drop it and enjoy it with the people. No, no, no. That's because you wasn't going to get the support. But on his side, I don't think there's ever a world where Gunna should beat him on a release week.

Never. Ever. And that's nothing against Gunna. Yes, not at all. That's not a slight at all. Please. Gunna should never beat The Weeknd in sets. We go to the same strip clubs.

I don't want any problems. We can do the Super Bowl. It's not a slight. You know what I mean? But people will take that as a little... What do you mean? Gunna's great too. And Gunna could potentially

get to a 400,000 week of first week. Like, you want to work to that. Keep in mind, listen, them Atlanta niggas got a nice chain going. They got a nice little... Yeah, shit.

We've seen Uzi Vert do it twice in one year. It wasn't 400 it was 375 it was enough it was enough it was enough

that if Uzi can do it Gunna can probably do it yeah salute to all parties involved yeah I think I'm gonna keep my eye on this though cause I think we haven't heard

the end of a few weeks ago Post Malone partner posted some cryptic shit about his project and the label's support of it and the standing and the fans are looking for it. But we got some things to get straight first. There's some shit going on, man. And I left it alone because that's Post.

I already know who Post is to the label. I don't even understand what you're saying. When an artist of that magnitude, somebody from their camp speaks like this. Yeah. And it says Post Malone manager Dre London suggests label is holding up new album release. We've been ready. See, that is a funny headline.

Because no label in the world would hold up a Post Malone release today. Unless. Unless. Unless they can't tour it. No. But does the label really, really, really profit from the tour? I don't know. I'm asking.

Yes. Okay. In most deals these days are in most instances the label is profiting all around yeah so that might be it and the tour helps promote the album sales yeah so that might be it hold off until we got the great because adele just canceled her um vegas residency like people are canceling again it's back that would be cool if post malone and his camp were on the same page as that then i wouldn't think anything of it because you go to the artist and say hey let's wait let's wait till you can

tour and let's do this the right way and the artist says cool but them saying we've been ready don't speak to hey there's a touring issue this language speaks to something else i don't have any information on it i didn't i'm reading. Yeah. Our sync and energy always on an insane level. Album has been done. We ready. But seems Republic Records Universal Music Group isn't. And tagged them. Tagged them, yeah.

Posty fans, no more need to press me anymore. We did our part. Now it's time for the label to get the business right before we drop big album, hit them up. We've been ready like you are. DreVision 2022 2022 it's time that part right there i support both sides of this i can't imagine what i can't imagine what it would be he said it's time for the label to get the business right before we drop the big album

that's telling you right there all right well now that he said that let me tell you the label's gonna get the business right yeah it might not be the label's gonna get the business right and this album is gonna drop Both parties here This is gonna go different Yeah I wonder how many albums He got with them Cause this could be

One of those This is the last project I'm big I'm ready to go And the label's saying Nah We're not driving that Until you resign And we'll hold it

I've seen it happen To artists before It could be one of those Nah Republic gonna do What they got to do. They're going to do it right there. I'm telling you. Mark it down.

No, you're right, though, because he's too big of an artist, too young for them to not get that shit straightened out. It's like not straightened out. Who didn't, I feel like Ariana Grande or someone went through something like that not long ago. Someone big was coming near the end of their contract and had to split, and they straightened that shit right out. Tory Lanez.

Speaking of people with contract issues and stuff, did you see Rod Wave? I did not. I saw he put a single out. We like Rod Wave over here. Well, no, no. I'm not saying – I like Rod Wave. I know. But what he said was – he's like, I feel like I sold my soul for this shit. Well, no, no. I'm not saying... I like Rod Wave. I know. But what he said was...

He's like, I feel like I sold my soul for this shit. Like, this ain't me. The single that was put out, I didn't want to put that out, but they made me do it. The one that just came out?

Yeah. It was called like December... December, but it came out in January. Yeah. He didn't want to put that record. He had no intention of it coming out. The label said, no, of it coming out the label said

no we want this out and we're not moving forward until we get this so he's just feeling like I have no control no more he's talking about possibly retiring from music

damn 22 years old he's not gonna retire I don't think it sounds like more more frustration frustration

and trying to maybe better your situation with your label but what if you can't better that situation I need more information on this before I'm able to comment

to be honest I would like to know what his understanding of his situation was. Rob Wave is a big artist. He's a huge artist. Right? And if you a big artist,

the label is paying a little more attention to you and your records. They might want a little more input in how those album cuts and how these songs are filtered to the public. We got a lot riding on you, a lot invested in you. And I know what you wanted your song to be, but let us please just pump you a lot invested in you and i know what you wanted your song to be but let us please just pump some a little bit in this song first it could be that gotcha his response don't sound like it's that so so i don't know here's what he here's what he here's his quote um i was in a 15 million dollar deal contract i was trying to close on and it was like they

need that song that's the only reason why i dropped that shit but i was never going to drop that shit if you want to be technical he's talking about the cold december record okay um i'm only here for a little longer and when i say that i mean as in rod wave i'm only here for a little minute man i'm done i done gave y'all straight dope, straight crack. No, I done. I done. Yeah, because that's important. I done gave y'all straight dope, straight crack.

Ain't nobody fucking with me with that pen. This shit is not really me, man. I'm not no people person. I'm not no center of attention ass nigga. I hate attention, man. I can't get on the internet without seeing my face or name. It's kind of like you sold your soul, bro. Because if you say that's not you, for 300k it'll be me it just seemed like he's not enjoying this shit man

wow that was poignant yeah that was well well said well thought out he's 20 waves a monster. He's, I feel like I've seen him on Forbes lists and shit. Like he does. He streams really well. Yeah, he puts up numbers. He puts numbers on the board.

And he makes great music. Well, does that, well, does that supply or substitute happiness? I think a lot of these people that put numbers up on the board aren't feeling the greatest. No question. No question. We were kind of joking off, off off off mike about having fun being broke versus is it fun

having money oh yeah to bring it full circle yeah yet again at 22 years old his interpretation of the music industry is probably different from what he's experiencing now and he's a primary act which means he's being exposed to quite a bit and they're leaning on him a lot the weight could get heavy we just saw young blue go through it he dropped didn't put on a bad show then said i'm depressed and put out a project that said i'm depressed yeah no i'm not okay we saw somebody else come out publicly recently and speak to just not being okay. Mental health has been a thing with artists for the past few years. Big Sean, we can go on and on.

But for a newer act, Rod Wave hasn't been around but for so long. For a newer act to pick all this up and feel this way so early, I wonder if he means when he says I'm only here for a little minute as rod wave that he's already trying to figure out a way to get from underneath that that's what that was the first thought that i had too when i when i when there were some contract issues and my name was joe budden as a rapper i was like all right well i'm pulling a prince and i ain't joe budden no more we're just gonna rap under something else and start a new group, a new entity, a new something.

Wonder if it's some of that here. I don't think a 22 year old is going to stop making music. I don't think that. I don't either. I don't either. If you see what come with it, like he might've never intended on any of this. I'm making music from the heart.

No, put that back, man. Put that back. You know what I'm saying? And he does make music from the heart, by the way. I didn't sign up for all of that. I just wanted to get my shit off. Where's he from? I feel like Texas.

I could be wrong about that, though. The hood? Wherever he's from, this story is national. I know somebody from everywhere that feel like this. What jumps off the screen to me is this shit not really me, man. I'm not no people person. He's from Florida. I'm not no center of attention ass nigga.

I hate attention. Nobody relates to that more than I. Unfortunately, we sign up to do a gig where attention comes with it and we didn't know fam we we didn't know how much we didn't know how we would react man let's talk about this we i'm not an attention nigga i hate it and it comes with this it's it's an adaptation some people are like yo i can't deal with that i'm not used to attention i don't fuck with attention see and i don't think it's fair right because the people that aren't that are a little socially awkward or don't necessarily deal with this the greatest we go out here because it's

our job like he said for 300k i'll go out there and now you get me as i am and you might not have the best reception of me because of how we're introduced here you're being introduced to me in my worst environment in a condition I'm not used to and now you're just running around calling me an asshole and a piece of shit but it's not that I was doing a job and that's who I really am and I want to protect the world from that. So I really want to be in the house. It's fucked up. I feel him. And a lot of new acts are introverted this way. And just for that, people are fucking weird, yo. Sometimes you just don't want to deal with that.

And you don't realize that. Like, yo, everybody that you come across ain't a fan. It's just some weird people out there. And it's like, yo, I'd rather just be in the house. Or let me just throw a mask on. Let me go about my business and mind mine. Listen, man, and I hate to be the

bearer of bad news, but the greater your gift is, the greater slave you'll become to it. It sucks, yo. It sucks but like why do we all do music everybody's reason is is different but if you're successful enough you'll garner enough attention fame and notoriety and i always hearken back to my talk i had with him in private one day when he was like i would just love to go to walmart without a crowd with

my daughter i'd love to go pump gas at a gas station i'd love to go anywhere alone i'd love for it to not cost x amount of dollars to travel somewhere but that's not life i'd love for the people that are attached to me to be have a normal time in life but that's not it's not normal and that takes a lot of adjusting and then there's also the the pressure which we can tie this into the kevin gates interview that he did recently yes with how great you become the man like you have to now you have a bunch of people relying on you whether it's your family or whatever because now you're up and you're taking care of them, or they can at least rely on you, or the labels and the people you're doing business with. It's a lot.

It's a lot. Let me ask you a question. Shoot. Just throwing it out there. You think they would reverse it if they could? I think some people might. Some people would. I think more people than we think. Yeah, I think some people say some people would i think i think more people than

we think yeah i think some people say this shit's not worth everything that comes along with it ain't worth it in 03 i was on one of them dvds that's when the dvd era was out and i was like yo the second that i'm off this shit i promise you i'll go get a regular job i'm not married to none of this shit and all the fans what a liar he's full of shit how could you give it up well if you know what comes with it, then you know how someone could give it up. I never judged Calvin Johnson. Very abrupt retirement. It's a difference.

He was, no, it's no difference to me. What's the difference? The money that they've earned. It's no different. You make good money as a rapper, too, if you're successful in it. The money is not going to. If you're not doing this, willing to become someone else for the 300 grand,

then the money don't matter. Calvin Johnson was in his prime, had a quarterback that can get it to him. Granted, he was stuck in Detroit, but he was the best and had another max contract easy on the way and said, nah, I'm done. So this goes to my point. And niggas couldn't understand that but i don't want to get bust up in the head every day when i go to work to practice i'm off it i'm not really feeling the coach my wife is at home telling me what normal people should say like yo baby you don't want to

be there for our kid as he grows up you want you want to be off i don't want to have to take care of you i don't want you as a vet. Like, you know the fucking talk. You ain't got to go into that. No, I agree, but I'm saying this. But it's the same for me. For me, maybe. And I have a, I've been exposed to some shit that a lot of fans have not. So I get people not understanding me.

But it's a very. And also, I mean, some rappers make football player money. Rod Wave, maybe one of them. He was on the Forbes or Billboard remade. He's about 10 million dollars. He's two years away from making more than some of them. But that's my point. Uh-huh.

So, what's the song Jay-Z be like? Who you think I'm kidding? No, I'm getting high, sitting low. You know what I'm talking about? Whatever the song is. Uh-huh. And he talks about it. Like, yo, I'm saying all this shit

but it ain't that like once you make a certain amount of money I think your your thought process changes I remember there were days

when fuck it nigga we put our lives our our lives our future our freedom on the line to make a certain dollar amount of money

that a nigga couldn't get me to damn near leave the house for today. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. So I think once you get to a certain position of success, now it's easy to say that. Whereas if a nigga tomorrow reversed the situation and give them now because now your mom's is okay now your little sister is okay now you got enough money to send your little siblings to college etc etc whereas some

motherfuckers don't have that so now you can say that today i don't know if these people have the exact mindset uh in reverse but i think some people if going back to our conversation off mike i said um you can say i had more fun broke than rich or whatever because you've experienced both so to to your example ish i think for him not just him anybody that have experienced the success and seen what came with it might look at it and say you know what wasn't worth it this wasn't worth it i'd rather go try to get it another way than have to deal with the public some people the money ain't is like the money's just not worth it for all the extra shit that come with it like like joe's m example the conversation dude i can't go to the supermarket

i i literally cannot do anything by myself. And so, and my other thing with that is right. Real quick is, you know, the phone tracks your steps, right? I've got this weird thing.

I do. I, I, I track, we all track all the steps of our lives. And only we know those steps. I was talking to Corey one day, was walking outside, nice day on a promenade.

And I said, look, for all the money, all the fame, all the success, I ain't but probably less than three miles from where I was born in the project.

Right? Like, for where I am now, shit, I'm from Jersey City. I ain't but a couple of seconds from over there. So I mean, yeah. What? Keep going. I want you to land.

Well, that's the land. The money is nice. And the quality of life is nice. But what is it affording you? And what is it costing you? And those questions vary for people. I know. So in some instances, I think, and again, I can't speak to him. I can't speak to you. I think oftentimes though, we kind of dismiss our blessings, right? And I think oftentimes we aren't as gracious or grateful for the gifts that God has bestowed upon us.

I think that once you get there, yeah, you can talk that shit. But when your baby mom is starving or your mother is starving or your auntie is starving or somebody's in the hospital. And the hospital kind of treating them like bullshit because they don't have the right insurance. The hospital might be taking them on a slight and you could have potentially had them in a better city i think we just don't we we kind of be and it's not toward him or you i think a lot of times when people reach a level of success they kind of forget what the fuck it was like on the other side so yeah you only live a couple miles from jersey city but it's night and fucking day you only live a couple miles from the projects in queens but it's night and fucking day and those

people on those projects today walking through them pissy stairwells would trade places with you in a second this is bad and it's way hold up and this is back to our original our original talk that we had whenever we had it it is night and day i feel by design oh i'm not even talking about how we got there i'm just saying we stand on this particular point but for me that that is important when i stand on the balcony and see that i'm a few steps from where i was born but look at all the steps i had to take to get there and then the frustration and damn you had to go through all of that to make it across the water four miles away yeah that ties in for me back to uh what what what can what uh can you afford

what will it cost you it sounds like the cost for him is high it's not worth the price of admission exactly when i first got in the game it wasn't worth the price of admission that don't change what you're saying to be true because a lot a lot of my stress is alleviated in the fact that when people call with these transactional issues, those are off the table. But a lot of my stress comes from those being off the table. Elaborate. Because I ain't really under the analogy. I'm trying to figure out how I can do it on a public platform.

Gotcha. I'm going to just say this. Homeboy's 22, right? So I'm not, definitely can't take, because his walk is his walk. What I can say is, everybody got stresses, right?

Bill Gates got stresses, Warren Buffett got stresses, everybody got stresses. So money don't alleviate your stresses. I think it alleviates the type of stress. So being where we from, nigga, you ain't got to coming out your house. It's no possible way.

It's a possibility. The probability is not high that a stray bullet is going to hit somebody in your family when they jogging. Like, it's certain risks and rewards that come along with everything you do you can walk outside and get hit by fucking lightning any day of the week but the probability is not as high yo going through what we've gone through to get a couple dollars fam samuel jackson said yo the only people that can really tell you that money ain't everything is a motherfucker that never had it or a motherfucker that always had it because they don't know the other side when you've seen both sides those are the only people that could really make a definitive statement you've seen both sides

homeboy has seen both sides i just think that sometimes when you get a certain level of money you forget where you really came from oftentimes and you forget how hard how bad motherfuckers got it over there some motherfuckers can't feed their kids dog like yo i i don't know i just look at it like um we kind of bitching you know i'm saying i look at it like some people just really forgot how bad it'd be on the other side some motherfuckers didn't come from that so i don't know where people came from i've've seen the differences and the drastic differences in life and life.

And some motherfuckers will trade places with y'all niggas in a heartbeat tomorrow. But the same person might tell that person who said he'll trade places with you,

you don't know what come with all of this. And you get over here and might say, damn, I don't want all of that either. I ain't ducking no bullets Ice we don't know

I'm talking about in the history I don't know this kid I'm not even we taking it off of this kid cause I don't know him cause you're going extreme you're going extreme

I don't know his walk of life there's also plenty of people that get a lot of money and fame or whatever and become a bigger target not for nothing yeah they might I hear what it's just saying

happiness just isn't one size fits all no doubt like everybody is gonna have their different picture. They have all the money in the world to be depressed. Like, hate it. Like, miserable. Which is like, poverty ain't happy.

Listen, Floyd wealthy than a bitch. Them I can't read jokes probably got to him. Of course. Like, we just don't. Like, happiness looks different on everybody. And how we get it is different. So, I mean, this don't sound happy. No.

No, he doesn't sound happy no no he doesn't sound like a happy young man and i think that when you're in a situation like a lot of the um artists that we see having these kind of conversations where you're not really in control of what's happening with your life essentially and your your soul because it's your music your art that you put all this because he don't make poppy shit he makes from the soul music it's right from here everything so when you lose control, I can see how you end up feeling. Oh, no. It gets heavy.

First of all, you attract what you put out. That's a law in music. Whatever the song is, you're going to get back what you're supposed to get back from it. So if it's not proper representation of you and how you feel, The label is going to monetize and you're going to be exposed and out here just meeting shit that ain't bringing back what it's supposed to spiritually. Because that wasn't you.

I'm sure you went through that. Oh, you fucking right. I'll never forget the night, Cindy's 2004 2005 One of those years. I creep, do my little, I've been the same nigga for a long time. Wow. I do my little creep to Cinderella's by myself.

Shout out to Elizabeth Cinderella's. I sit there and as a sign of respect, the DJ start playing joints, but pump it up. It's been passed and I'm in a little in between. I'm in a little in between. I'm throwing mixtape shit out there to get what's popping. Def Jam ain't feeling me. I'm trying to get off of there. I'm in there just to between I'm in a little in between I'm throwing mixtape shit out there to get what's popping Def Jam ain't feeling me

I'm trying to get off of there I'm in there just to see some ass and be sad and the DJ starts trying to respect me and he plays a song called Roll Your Backyard that was just on a clue tape Kwame did the beat

hardest beat in the world it was fucking Nitty and Webb trying to get me to get a single out there and the record played in the strip club and it's girls in there and it's a friday and niggas are not ahead it's your boy no we ain't in i'm listening that wasn't me that wasn't me i'd never said that phrase i'd have never wrote that record the beat was hard i wouldn't have did that to it but it's playing now as representation of me while i'm out here and i can't even get mad at him because he's respecting me right and that was the moment i said never again this will never happen again where i am the deliverer of the bad feeling to me

you can't play this shit if I don't make it. You could tell me a million different reasons that this should be pushed. If I don't make it and it don't feel good to me it ain't coming out. And that's what separates some niggas from some niggas and that gets to his last point. For $300,000 it might be you

but it won't be him. Everybody prices the price of admission is different for everybody 300k didn't do it for me i had way more fun when i left and went to go sit at a fucking radio station and just sit there and talk for 250 a year that was fun i was having a blast i said yo when i finish this rap shit, I'm on their ass. I'm over here.

Back then, I thought the picture was BLS or Hot 97 or something like that, and then no pocket, whatever. Right? But it was fun. And the second they made me stop or urged me to stop, I was right back miserable. Right back miserable. So I totally understand where he's coming from and i hope he's young enough to like figure this out and get around this he's powerful enough to have some

leverage in these conversations yes he might not but i wish when artists part yeah i just think that's the bad part i think the diversification comes now because i think with these younger artists contrary to you is way more money for them. So now they can take that money and generate other money and do other shit. Whereas you guys didn't necessarily have that same amount of financial opportunity. He said he was in a $15 million deal. You know what I'm saying? My era was the last era of us getting paid, though.

Last or first? The last. What you mean? Last between the gap. After him came digital where no one got paid for a million years. But now people are getting paid again. People are getting paid now. That's a fact. There was 10, 15 years

when there was no money. My generation, as an example, is a bad example. You got to use the one right after that I was the tail end of that like the Busta video advances the record deals the marketing budgets it was all inflated

I was in there and then Napster came and then it was it got bad that's when we said oh shit the record business is declining year by year last year we CDs, ain't no CDs. Record stores are disappearing. The studios are disappearing. How's this shit going to stay afloat?

And then it was no money for nobody. For nobody. So then some things had to happen. Ringtones. We had to start getting it. They started coming up with some shit. And that led us to ta-da. And now we got all of these artists.

iTunes happened, and then streaming happened as a result. No, but before that, we was fighting to get in the next tell, where you at, commercials. It was a whole, we just had to make a wave. We had to find out to go get it somewhere else. Yeah, we had to make a wave for a little bit, because they kept saying, oh, this shit is about to be over. It's no money.

The big execs was getting fired, losing their jobs. Labels started merging together. It was like, all right, look, y'all ain't making no money the big execs was getting fired losing their jobs labels started merging together it was like all right look you know y'all ain't making no money winning so today you got all of these artists that are going back to their old contracts to see hey what's the language with streaming if there is none oh we have to have a conversation i have to go save my money get some money and lawyer up because Because, fam, fuck as you want. I just seen a few artists come forward and say they fighting it. They fighting to get their streaming rights and blah, blah, blah,

because their contract don't state it. Mine didn't state it either. But guess what? The label is protected because once you sign, you sign an ownership over. So whatever it becomes, to the people that are confused as to why Joe is on ownership and it's going to take a pretty penny to get me off of it, becomes to the people that are confused as to why Joe is on ownership and it's going to take a pretty penny to get me off of it. I know what it does.

The world going to change and you going to be without you. And then somebody else is speaking for you, trying to sell you. Monetizing you. Monetizing you. In 20 billion different ways. Attaching your shit to Because you signed your name somewhere

and they own it, so whatever it becomes, it's ours. And don't talk to me again. It's funny. People were asking me today, which we all know the answer to on Twitter, about why Slippin' is edited on...

Explicit. Fresh in my flesh. Out of my blood. It's only edited and it's because Grover Washington didn't want curses in his song. And then people were kind of replying, oh, that's fucked up. They should have the curses. And I'm and then you know people were kind of replying oh that's fucked up they should have the curses and i'm like i think that's

kind of dope that's like a positive of copyright law because there's a couple records do whatever you want with my shit no streets is watching yeah there's a bunch of them yeah it was a it was a nice little stretch where you can sample yeah but you can't curse in it you can't do nothing with my shit i love that and then they still put the explicit out. Yeah, you know, they be a kid, whatever. Smart. I mean, that's dope. It's mine. Ownership is dope. Ownership is good.

And unfortunately, this might be, and I don't have any information, this might be a very young contract. Rods? Huh? Rod Waves? I'm sure. He's young. He's only 22. He's 22 years old. And that couldn't be a worse situation. That's the bad thing because now you're stuck in a situation that you might have to do the same shit.

He has to do whatever he has to do now to get out of that contract. Whether it be they let him out. Whether it be they work out a point. Point something for when he leaves. Or the problem is or the problem is the problem is this is back to you being a slave to your ability

you too hot I'm not letting you go no way but I'm not nigga what but when you got leverage like that potentially

like I have you Christina Aguilera said that her first album, she hated that shit. Like, all that bubblegum pop shit, she was like, yo, that's not who I am at all.

Like, what a girl wants, all that shit. She said she hated it. But with her successes, gave her a little bit more freedom. Like, the label will give you a little bit of leash to make some shit that you like.

You know what I'm saying? Like, because you already hot as fish grease, I'm going to give you an opportunity to make some soulful shit. It don't happen to everybody. But also what happens though, like,

when you saying you hot in leverage, et cetera, like, I've seen this happen with two rappers at a major. Last album.

I want to get out. I'm hot. I done built my fan base up. Now I'm ready. Once I'm out of here I can go make a move over here It's up

Let's explain this to the listener Stop Let's explain this to the listener Cause this is interesting And a lot of audience Might not pay this any mind Cause who the fuck thinks about this Alright so

I signed a record deal For four albums After album number three I'm hot as fish grease. Now, I know I don't own these albums. I know this is the labels project, but I'm hot. So in my head, I'm like, cool, let me get this album out because I signed for four albums. So when I drop four, I'm independent now. I can go independently it's

your last album you know you know it's your last album your label knows it's your last album part of why you hot as fish grease is because of your talent and because of all the work that the label did and the funds that they allocated to your project so we don't know if you are going to be here past this next project and we know the bigger we make this last project, the better you are when you leave. It behooves us to just let this go. We're not doing nothing with this. Or. We're not spending.

Or we'll talk to you and say, yo, check this out. Or resign. Yeah, we're going to resign over here. Extension time. Yeah, now I want two more. I'll put this out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But now I need two more afterwards. And then after that, you're going to re-sign over here. Extension time. Yeah, now I want two more. I'll put this out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But now I need two more afterwards.

And then after that, you're good. And you know what happens after you put one more out? Same boat. And you stuck. Well, unless it ain't. Rihanna got to the end of that contract, and it was stick-up time. All around the board. And her contract, I think, was a little longer it took a while it was a few more than four albums but when it came i'm

the biggest star in the world dog but she had also made the label enough money to where they had to recognize and was going to continue to make yeah like you get what i'm saying i was going to continue to make so i think it could have potentially been a win-win for everybody. Because good business is a possibility to where everybody is happy. It don't got to be robbery time in all instances. And that's another thing that's not taught enough. A 360, everybody don't think that's the worst thing in the world. When we hear about it being the worst thing in the world, it's from people that it wasn't built for.

Or it's for people that had no idea what the 360 really was. Or you just didn't realize that. Oh, shit. You niggas could have known what it was. They could have sold you all some dreams. You could have had more confidence in yourself. All of that's cool. You don't hear a peep about it from the people that

it's working for no they love it they encourage it hey bring in more yeah bring it hey you doing that bring it hey bring it all theoretically the label should work harder for you if they're getting a piece of everything you got and that is why y'all think i'm a bad guy when i say certain people are going to be real slow delivering music. But I'm saying it from experience. There are deals in place where not just the artists, the label, the production company, the manager, all parties involved are making way more money doing other ventures. Than music. We don't give a fuck about music. Than music. They're all happy about it.

Right. Right. No one's angry. Except the fan. Except the fan. I mean, that's just fan. So we'll get to music at some point or not. Hey, round of applause.

We might not get to music. Round of applause for Cardi B. She just paid for the funerals of the victims from the Bronx building fire. Double round of applause for Cardi B because I just love Cardi B. She is the best. I love you. We love you, Cardi. I love your family.

I love how you have moved. I love your evolution. Look at the full circle. Cardi B from the bottom, right? We all know her history or some semblance of her history from the bottom. I don't know her never met her never had a conversation with her but she would be an ideal person to sit down and have a conversation about if you regret with all of them because they'd be fucking with her big time like right

they'd be fucking with her big big time but i don't know and i don't know where i can't speak for her i don't know if she trades where she is today for where she was even with all that she's endured even with all of them and so again i think it's a but it could be different for everybody indeed it's an individual it is different for everybody she might not but stop that's a false parallel i don't like that parallel cardi b has ascended for music the new artist package don't really apply to her because I can never make another song and make millions and millions and millions of dollars. Indeed. So we never going to hear Cardi B talk about how unhappy she is making music in the studio. She's going to go to Atlantic and put a dick on the table.

I agree. And she will get her way at all times. She is molding her life in a way where she's more than happy. She's just got a house in New York. Got a house over here. She's paying for this. She's gifting her homeboy a million dollars. She's trying to get rid of tax.

Too much money. It's too much money. But she's happy about it. We don't hear that other side. Rod Wave is in the beginning of a rookie contract. She was too at one point. No, she still is. Well, no, she's not. No, because she worked her way out of that. She came too at one point. No, she still is. Well, no, she's not.

No, because she worked her way out of that. She came in with value too. No. No. A little bit. No. Not enough.

From what? Not enough. She was on TV. She was a fucking... Her label didn't know Bodak Yellow was coming. No, no. In a zillion years

did they know that this girl was going to be this? They didn't know she was doing this. They didn't. They'll tell you that. She know it. It's not a secret. It's not a secret. It's not a secret.

She did that, but she worked her way past past. Yo, I'm stuck here. I'm stuck. I'm stuck here and I'm unhappy. And these are my rates. Any bad contract that was in her way.

It's reworked. Of course. No, it's straight now. They're redone. All good business. Hey, and anybody she love.

Hey, Hennessy contracts is different. Her sister, anybody she loved hey hennessy contracts is different her sister anybody she loved that's who she is raw wave ain't there i and to get there ding ding he gonna have to unfortunately maybe if things don't change be miserable doing it and the fans are gonna eat it up because you make your best music miserable. Cardi B didn't, nah, nah. The story was really different and she had some

really powerful people behind her with some leverage once she caught one. Once she caught one, if you could boss me around, you ain't going to boss around Migos,

P, K, Party, the nigga writing, because the nigga writing was making hits. You're just not going to boss. It's a team.

Rod Wave, I'm not familiar with his team. I'm just familiar with him, which says to me, it's him. It might not be the team. It ain't the same. He working off God-given organic talent, and he's getting the SoundCloud days over. But the SoundCloud, Fetty Wap, Trap Queen, I put some shit out. It took off now. Everything I put out take off.

And I'm a star, but that happened in a matter of a New York minute. You are not, by design, you're not supposed to get that big, that fast on your own. We supposed to be able to jump in and fix that. Or grab on to it somehow. Yeah, touch on and...

And they did that to him. We hear the same thing from nba young boy we hear this from the niggas that are streaming giants interesting that in the fucking peak era of streaming the highest streamers are upset i don't know enough about it Well yes I do Because I'm one of the highest streamers Well that's why I was upset So I totally understand it man Not quite sure what's going to happen from it Or what to do about it Right But I definitely understand it

Rahway we love you man No doubt We love you up here We hope you are well We hope you alright And we hope that this don't weigh too much on your ability, because that's the other part, too, now. Now he's stuck with the responsibility

of tackling all this shit off the field and playing the same on the field. Kevin Gates, too, by the way. Shout out to Kevin Gates, as well. I'll take that bow and arrow from a nigga if he run up on me, but shout out to Kevin Gates, because I fuck with him and what he's doing in the message he's speaking

I like his message I love it we need more of that all right what is this what is this Instagram launches test of subscriptions for U.S. creators I didn't see that button on my Instagram but I didn't look I was too busy deleting and archiving things Instagram has switched on a new way for creators to make money kicking off a test of subscriptions for the social platform in the U.S. round of applause to creators getting money Mark Zuckerberg co-founder of Facebook and chairman CEO parent company Meta announced the test in a post Wednesday this will help creators earn more by offering benefits to their most engaged followers, like access to exclusive lives and stories.

Look at that. Hitman hollers, an innovator. I think it's saying, Hey, come join my close friends. I'll show you my dick, man.

Come on. If you join my close friends, only then can you see my dick, yo. Him, somebody else did that. Was it Cash Doll? Cash Doll said, join my close friends to see behind the scenes

of my pregnancy. I just seen people saying, yo, I'm charging X amount for me to add you to my close friends. They didn't even say what you were getting. I'll pay anything

to see Hitman Hollow's next battle. They gonna roast his fucking muffin, dick man. Did you see the, who was tossed out for him no gg oh he better chill out i don't know they're trying to work that out though it's like yo let's stop playing dogs hope they don't zuckerberg zuckerberg's a bully my nigga he gonna find a way no you just come out with an idea if you don't wanna sell it to me I'ma take it and recreate it

this is nothing but OnlyFans on a meta man they're all doing the same shit I know I'm just saying if you don't wanna sell me

your shit cool take it you don't want this 99 billion dollars alright cool sue us I'ma rob you

and that's exactly what he's doing they're all doing the exact same I'm just saying the close friends is the OnlyFans subscription. You can range from 99 cent a month to $99 a month.

What the fuck is the difference in OnlyFans? Now I'm going to pop my pussy for you on Facebook, on the meta. Pardon me. There's a bazillion people here. That's the difference. There's a bazillion people on Instagram. They're already there. Exactly.

Which means we're going to get more bread so that that's their whole thing it's like look we got the we have the numbers so if you don't want it like i'm with you i'm gonna look i i have the built-in platform already all i gotta do is implement whatever y'all out there doing got you got them so now whatever subgroup I set up this is our OnlyFans OnlyFans go night night get down to lay down yeah he's a monster you got OnlyFans

going down there I do I definitely you know why because now you don't have to have a specific set up I don't gotta go to

OnlyFans and subscribe I'm already on Instagram the whole world is already on Instagram so now I don't got to go to OnlyFans and subscribe. I'm already on Instagram. The whole world is already on Instagram. So now I just got to subscribe to your Only... I mean your... What you call it?

Patreon. Patreon. No, no. Subscribe to our Patreon. Fuck is you talking about, nigga? But Instagram and Facebook might not be so... I got a new tier

coming February 1st, I think, by the way. I'm telling y'all, that's it. Seven passing. Now we're out. No, I'm saying now the way. I'm telling y'all. That's it. Seven passing. Now we're out. No, I'm saying now only got to do a system. Instagram and Facebook might not be so pro adult.

Yeah, but the thing is, if I subscribe to my close friends. I've seen shit in people's close friends. You think that they're not seeing that behind their little walls? They're letting it go. I've paid to subscribe to my close friend. We'll see. We'll see. We're going to see.

We'll see. Because if you don't want to see bots, don't subscribe. I've seen people put shit on their close friends that if they'd have put it on a regular story, they paid you, it would have got suspended. Yeah. So it seems like Instagram is letting some other shit fly in close friends anyway. For now. So now let's monetize it.

I wouldn't have edited my close friends and realized I didn't have any close friends. I've never used that function. I was putting a lot of people in there that I wasn't close friends with. I don't use that shit. I never used it either. Me neither. I might have posted five stories

my entire Instagram. I just was adding anybody. My close friends list is shot to shit, man. What does it mean when a girl puts you in your close friends that you're not close friends with? In their close friends? Mm- close friends they want you to see some shit that other

people ain't seeing yeah yeah do with that what you will alright come on moving on what else we got what else we got

anything else on your techie list Ice this ain't my techie list but um Twitter speaking of all these platforms Twitter is now

bringing NFTs to the profile pictures. Okay. You have to connect. Score one for JPEGs. That's what I'm saying. Whoa, you can put a JPEG in your shit? Yeah, it's going to show it off as like a hexagon picture instead of a circle or some shit. And you have to connect your wallet to show that you own it.

Whatever. Yeah. Yeah, whatever. Y show that you own it. Whatever. Yeah, whatever. Y'all can have it. Have fun. Hey, click learn more about. I can't really tell you. Twitter's also- They're making close friends, right?

Yeah, they're making close friends. It's called Flock, where you can add people to your flock, and only they can see your tweets and whatever. And we about to monetize it in about six months. They're going to run out of little bird analogies here eventually. That's cool, though. I think that could be fun. The flock feature does.

That might be better to me. I ain't got to worry about your tweet getting. Nobody's tweeting me anymore anyway. What the fuck? Now when you put them in your flock. It's something Twitter needed on March 20 on March 21st 2006 certain things would play out differently if we're fundamental fundamental versus as

of late tiny badge in response to a proverbial hemorrhage okay what the fuck do you pull this up for screaming no I do this is my worst with Twitter you just have me read some screaming yeah you good you just have me read from truth anyway yeah we done with you we done with you it's fine it's fine hey google it yeah there's some more they're out there doing shit google

wants you to connect to their digital wallet he's showing me what his home girl thinks about this did y'all hear that one what google is allowing they want you to connect your they're creating a digital wallet where you can store all of your crypto. Smart. Okay. No, I'm saying it's smart for them. Oh, okay. Yo, dog, why don't you set up an idea, nigga?

I got some money. I'm coming to steal your idea. No, they're coming to steal your money. You connect to this shit if you want. They stole someone's idea you want everyone's money what the fuck is you talking about

oh man yeah I'm gonna pass on that one yeah google y'all my dudes yo but nah I'm not

doing that I seen that doc about how y'all stole oh lastly y'all know I fuck with the oculus and meta verse oh lastly y'all know I fuck with the

oculus and metaverse all that shit nah I'm not they coming out with that first haptic gloves what's that for jerking off somebody's gonna use it for that 100% cause there is some weird shit going on out there

the gloves allow you to feel whatever you touch in VR. That's for jerking off. 100% for jerking off. So yeah, that might give OnlyFans some problems. OnlyFans, y'all better come out with a little glove.

That's crazy. Cause them little captions Your workers are doing That ain't gonna keep us there Hey daddy Yeah I was feeling frisky today Yeah That's what they take for real

Yeah Or a more ghetto version of it Wait what's the more ghetto version of that Woke up and felt like some anal today It's like yo Ma Ma It's 7am dog

It's 7 a.m. Leave your asshole alone. Please treat my subscription a little more sensitive and delicate. Yeah, like, behave. Behave yourself, man. Are you just going to wake up on some anal? And had a nigga there to tape it? And uploaded it.

Got it to my inbox at 7 a.m. Who do you think I am did you click play no I do not want to see that I don't want to see that no man that's what gets you going no I'm just saying she said it

I'm like okay she said it but did you actually watch it though no no that's the caption and try to get you to unlock it and if you unlock it then you can see it try to get you to unlock it. Where? And if you unlock it, then you can see it. But you got to pay to unlock it. I'm not doing that for anal. You don't pay for the anal? Sorry.

No. No. You girls are going a little too crazy with what they're doing. But I understand it. Everybody get money. Yeah. What else is going on? That's it.

That's it. I think I see it. That's it. That's it. That's it. All right. Well, let me lead it right on out i was searching for music found my girl amber mark has a project coming out next month i pre-ordered it because she don't miss when i hit pre-order i got about four tracks and one of them

Almost woke me up And attempted to touch me slow down Wrecking his coursely by Amber Marr, not Marv. She's not for play play. Whisper in my ear Touch me right there So soft like cashmere Now you want it bad But you gotta work with that It's true

Cause baby it ain't really up to you Oh you, you got to Love me sweetly Oh boy you've got to please me Softly squeeze me, you can't forget to treat me right If it knew then maybe I just might Let you come over and stay the night Out here like it was so Tis the season of gold, yeah, yeah

And I need that Gucci store Give me your love so, so And I give it to you, bro I like your dreams in one go But you gotta prove yourself I'm right here, what's good with that? I'm right here, what's good with that? I'm right here, what's good with that? You got to love me sweetly Oh boy, you've got to please me Oh darling, squeeze me You can't forget to treat me right

You do then, baby, I just might But you come over and stay the night Softly, sweetly I'm your genie I'm your girl, so sweet I can't wait To get it done And maybe I just might Do your thighs

Oh yeah I'm only sweet Oh boy you've got to believe me So I'll take and squeeze me You can't forget to treat me right iTunes out there with this heat I be throwing you. I ain't gonna lie to you. Hey. What up, baby? What's up? Go, Amber.

Crazy. Can't wait. Can't wait for the project. Shit was dope. What you got for us Ice? And I think that's February 4th this is dropping. That's off the head.

Check it yourself. This is new old music. Hey. This is Roll Your Backyard by Joe Button. Yo Ice. Yo Ice yo. Still had the same effect

as in the strip club. You look visually disabled. Yo you was about to be like. Get that shit out of my disc. I got it too. That's the funny thing. I have it too.

It's fine. I started to play it. No, please don't. You sure you good? I'm fine. Let me get my stuff off anyway. But, all right. So, since this is episode 504.

Wobble wobble coming up. Oh, brother. This guy, yo. Yo,ble wobble coming up. Oh, brother. Here's guy, yo. Joe, fuck with me. It is the sail to my boat And it's going down, it's going down Like there's a whale in the boat See, you can smell that ice move And, yep, I sip that lean You hit me with that combination And make my eyes bleed

I'm a shark in the water Yep, I swim with the big So I don't have time to deal with Really the squid L-l-l-lilly pad, niggas L-l-l-look at the monster You-you-you don't wanna crash like La-la-la-bamba

See, it's me, Rona, and Tara And my new job is very Watermelon plump Niggas look at the monster, you don't wanna crash like La La La Bamba See it's me Ronan and Terry, and my new drop is very Watermelon plump, just call it fruit punch I'm a old rapper, getting new bucks And all you new rappers, you just new lunch Feel sick, so sick, need a doc, yes A creature, monster, like the Loch Ness It gets hotter by the top

Before I sizzle to death I just turn the clock, give me a sec In the middle of the war Where my enemy at? I'm running this bitch like Eric B. Enemy back Cause every time I hear the track I'm like an energy pack The instruments are crying out

Where the sympathy at? If you're ready, money, baby, him and me back Whatever legends look like, bitch, I'm finna be that I walk right in hip-hop like, where my dinner be at? I ate that and I was like, where my dinner be at? I hate that women lie, so I lie to them back Got two bitches in my pants, quiet, neither them back Lotta bitches want dick, I give a lot of them that

Let's do a pill, I can fuck you for an hour with that That was Wayne live from the 504. All right. I'm going to play some Shane Noir. This is off her new album, Food for Thought. This is Communion. The Lord of Glory. Let the church say amen. Anybody else want to come up here and get a testimony during this communion day?

Anybody want to come share their story? Sister Black, want to come on up here and get their testimony during this communion day? Anybody wanna come share their story? Sister Black, wanna come on up here and talk to us? Come on up here, Sister Black, come on. Talk to these people. Look, I tend to hide when I grieve. Losing my brother hurts so much that I cry in my sleep. I'm waking up out of my dreams every night in a scream. Trying to find reasons.

Shedding tears look like my eyes bleed and mind Mind reading, can't even process the thoughts I think I had my best conversations, when it's just God and me What's confused? Shit, feel like I'm drunk, without a drink Got that car, made me sick to my stomach It's hard to eat, it'll shatter you My heart's pure, it never matter who Never show loyalty to me, I'm giving gratitude Tragic news, pain that left me in a saddest mood Depressed and family assuming it's just my attitude I'm giving gratitude, tragic news Pain that left me in the saddest mood, depressed and Family assuming it's just my attitude

I'm stressed bad, feeling guilty After my best laugh for years I've been dealing with trauma I took a step back from friends dying in prison visits And see my stepdad so ahead of my time When I sleep, I wake with jet lag Peace higher from me Best friends in the sky above me Scared to open up to my man and all he doing is trying to love me Used to spend the night with buddies But scared to sleep cause her brother keep coming in the room trying to touch me

It's gon' take more than a prayer just to fix that Cause even when my truth comes to the light it still be pitch black I don't stress about bills I know how to get cash Shit I'm stressing about losses I never get back for real Alright now, Sister Black I hear that pain, girl I like that I'ma need you to watch that curse, you know

You know we all in the house of the Lord I hear that pain, girl, talk about that Lady, come here, oh Oh, you got more to say? Uh-huh, pain so deep Sometimes my way to hell is to ignore it Happiness comes at a price and I still cannot afford it Get to a place in life where maintaining is harder Wasted days when the liquor started tasting like water

Drunk nights by myself, weight on my shoulders, that only diet can help I became a bride to my wealth, tossed dimes in a well Crying for help, my eyes on a cell Rising from hell, but I could never lie to myself Was a shy girl, quiet as hell, dealt with anxiety They put me in them special ed classes and tried depriving me Mental health not addressed in our society Never was a highlight, my thoughts like why try? Thirteen years since Nancy was killed, crazy how time flies

My childhood friend, I still get tears from my eyes A month after I moved to the falls, wasn't in my right mind Get a phone call, said she got killed in a drive-by She was 14, I'm thinking how could y'all do this? She was a good kid, would've been an honor roll student Scary to share these things, he embarrassed me as a fiend Not ashamed to say, I go to therapy every week Got a man I love, we've both been through it

It's hard to see romance, I'm trying to love a man that was never taught how to be a man. The pain I heard is shit I seen. And leave you deaf and blind. Press recline. Gotta keep my head up high for my niggas. What did I say about that curse? Give me that damn mic. It's Communion by Chez Noir.

Offer album Food for Thought out now. Cop that. What you got for us, Sish? New shit, Young Blue. Neo's my dude. Name of the song is Walk Through the Fire. I fell in love with you. That's why it's hard to say goodbye

That's why every time you smile You're a little bit closer to the sky You're better than me I would've left you on the first time That's why you, you're better than me And I'll be loving you through Every moment, every wrinkle in time I'll be loving you through every moment, every wrinkle in time I'll be loving you through

And I'll be loving you through every moment, every wrinkle in time I'll be loving you through And I'll be making up for yesterday fixing everything that I let break and I will walk through fire just to hear you say say I do I love you say I do I fell in love with you. That's why it's hard to say goodbye That's why every time you smile. I get a little closer to the sky Not be loving you through Every moment every

Loving you through And I'll be loving you through Every moment, every wrinkle in time I'll be loving you through And I'll be making up for yesterday Mixing everything that I left right now And I would walk through for you You ain't gonna get that leg shaking the way you like Say I do, say I do I wanna marry you And I wanna fuck you some more friends

Why don't you come fuck me right now? SLV Joe Mack Nah, cause I'm on it, just sorry. I'm sorry. Why don't you come fuck me right now? SLV Joe Mack? Nah, cause Imani just stole the vocal. He said, fuck it, I don't even gotta fuck it. All he did was steal the Joe vocal and sing over him. I hate that man. Come back home. I love you.

I'm done fucking that chick. It's fine. It's safe now. I'm done fucking that chick. It's fine. It's safe now. I'm done fucking that chick. It's fine.

It's safe now. I'm done fucking that chick. It's fine. I'm done fucking that chick. It's fine. I'm done fucking that chick. It's fine. I'm done fucking that chick. It's fine. I'm done following that chick with this fucker This is safe now Mark my little benefit

They ain't never gonna find out They don't care if we talk fuck Keep that pussy nice and warm for me That's my favorite little hot pocket Stop I fell in love with you Man, that shit's so warm when it's cold out like this That's why it's hard to say goodbye

How do you keep it heated? Closer to the sky Shit better than a weighted blanket. Damn. I love you. That was Young Blue, Ne-Yo, and Joe. Yeah, nah, don't fucking discount my contributions to that

amazingness, yo. Oh, alright. Oh, come on. Let me play something. All right. Da-da-da-da. Yo, you good? Oh, come on. Let me play something. Da-da-da. Somebody talk. Oh, my bad.

I hate y'all, yo. Don't worry. It's Saturday. You got it now? Yeah. Yeah. What's that boosty treating you for? Makeschap.com.

Oh, shit. Ice told me start with Wayne. Because it was episode 504 But I wanted to hear this man Shit I ain't mad at this A lot of us out there man Oh man Oh my god

Hey give her a piece of your mind this winter Don't suppress your voice I hope you have You're already trying to stop artistic expression Wait a minute Hey since I've lost you I'm lost too You can't have me Like a horseshoe Sorry for the trouble that I put you in your heart too Man, I hope y'all enjoyed this podcast as much as we enjoyed recording it.

Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Hey, I'm from New Orleans. She was from Georgia. She was my down chick. I was her soldier. I was her gangster. She was my shoulder.

You were the pistol to my holster. Bang. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there Until the next time, I bid you adieu, arrivederci, adios, hasta la vista, so long, goodbye Remember life is a series of moments and moments pass So let's make this one last as if it's all we have And the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women wanna travel

And the closed minded, wow You forgot about the house, you forgot about the ring I remember everything, I just wanna hear you sing Stagnant women wanna travel and the closed minded And the closed minded women want you to teach them things Grab a ibuprofen, enjoy your headache Grab a coat, grab a long john, it's cold out Grab you somebody to keep you warm on those really cold nights Until next time, we'll holla at you. Same time, same place. Wednesday. Everybody enjoy their weekend. Stay safe. Pedal to swivel at all times. And we hope y'all enjoy yourself, man. Any last

words? Last words? Part words? I'll see y it, mama. I'll see y'all next week. That's all I got. I see you hiding it, girl. I know you do. Nigga ain't sticking that rod in. You and yours, nothing but happiness, shout it. The Empire. Pire. But I hope you haven't forgot about me up in the living room.

Like a sports center, you were cooking dinner. I was such a sinner, but the Lord is a forgiver. You know they say if you Oh, they look the greatest when they're in there just cooking dinner. Oh, man. That was so instrumental in Wayne's life, man. The little pet names. Look, he put in a song. You called me butter.

I called you bae. I called you bae. Oh, wait. You heard what that nigga said. That was some hatin' shit. Hey, your boyfriend is not like me. That's hatin'. That's hatin'.

This is dirty, my nigga. Even if it's true. Yeah, this is little shit, though. But the next nigga don't never be like you. Nah, nigga can't hold camera. That shit be cool until they miss you. Huh? The new nigga. They want something different than the last nigga they had like you. Nah, nigga can't hold camera. That shit be cool until they miss you. Hmm? The new nigga,

they want something different than the last nigga they had until the different niggas start acting up and it's like, you know what? Get my scammer

nigga back. My mama asked about you. My partners did too. I know your daughter will be so amazing like you. And I know you probably wish you

never met me. And I just wish you never forget me. And let me say please don't worry about the rest of my life No engagement can amount to your relationship And I hope that nigga know he got a queen And all I can do is dream

Damn, damn I've been lonely I've been waiting for you I'm pretending And that's all I can do The love I'm sending ain't making it through to your heart No Joe Biden No Joe Biden No Joe No Joe Biden