The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 507 | "It’s Harlem Week”

Episode Date: February 2, 2022

Rihanna and A$AP Rocky stopped the internet this week with their pregnancy reveal, in which Joe and the crew express their joy for the couple (18:25). Next, the crew debate if Nick Cannon is selfish a...fter another he announces another pregnancy (51:10), new music from Benny the Butcher and J. Cole (1:06:30), Ella Mai (1:43:40), and a new Cam'ron freestyle (1:30:40). Also, NBA YoungBoy vs. Atlantic Records (2:35:25), Joe addresses the Joe Rogan and Spotify headlines (2:47:05), Brian Flores suing the NFL (2:59:50), and MORE! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks Joe | Col3trane - “Bag” (Ft. Lucky Daye) Ice | Tai’Aysha - “One Night Ting” (Ft. Saweetie) Parks | Papoose - “Restored” (Ft. Rick Ross) Ish | Aaryan Shah - “To The Ends”

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Turn this shit on. We live. We live. I know it's getting old because it's taking an hour to chew that little bit of piece of beef patty. You got to hit the dentist's bed. You can't use your... What them shits call your molars?
Starting point is 00:00:14 Yo, it's a fucked up feeling when you can't use the important teeth. It's about a seven year stretch where ice cream put me to the ground. Anything, cold boy. Come on, wake up here. What's up? What's up? What's up? Say something, niggas.
Starting point is 00:00:28 We live. We here. All right, good. Good. Y'all feeling it. I don't want to be chewing in the mic. Feeling good, feeling great. Everybody cool?
Starting point is 00:00:34 Yes, sir. Everybody good? Absolutely. Happy Wednesday. Happy February. Happy Black History Month. Happy Black History Month. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Uh-huh. Or Black Future Month. Yo. Depends on which way you look at it. Who said that? That's what Kanye said. We not doing Black History Month. We doing Black Future Month.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Hey. Yeah, we doing Black History Month too. Both. But we should focus on the future as well. So? And what else he said? Fuck them NFTs? Yeah, he did one Black History Month, too. Both. But we should focus on the future as well. So? And what else he said? Fuck them NFTs? Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Yeah, yeah. I'm focused on the real world. I felt him. That's what he said. I felt him. I get it. I definitely get it. I was joking around.
Starting point is 00:01:16 I play Toxic. I don't really be trying to be Toxic, but playing Toxic is funny, right? I was playing around with somebody, and I was joking around. Damn, I ain't got no singles today. Oh, uh-oh. Damn, do I want to use my only single this early in the game? Yeah, I'm going to use it.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I'm going to make a business decision real quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can be good for the rest of the podcast. I told, I was telling somebody, just a joke. It's like, you had an NFT? I said, yeah, my old bitches is my NFT. I cut their pictures up everywhere.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I own it. I own it, but I don't. It's real, but it's not. Like, sometimes we good. It's high. Sometimes it's low. The world don't even know What's going on with us Like
Starting point is 00:02:06 Yo You just be quiet Yeah Yo Sometimes I feel great about it Sometimes I don't Yo that's funny That's a good one
Starting point is 00:02:14 That is hilarious Yeah I thought it was worth the dollar Here we go Yeah yeah yeah Nah nah Alright Listen A lot of new music dropped
Starting point is 00:02:19 Last week we recorded On a Thursday Because Parks had to go I was in the AMs, man. Why you was dressed like the DJ nigga, man? What's his name? Who? Cassidy.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Yeah, why you dressed like Cassidy? I was at a horse race event. So, I mean. Parks, I didn't even know you owned white. That was Searsucker, sir. He had Searsucker on. Searsucker. I hit him with the Searsucker Piggity out here. What's Searsucker?
Starting point is 00:02:43 What is that? The blue and white stripe shit you don't see you serious it ain't the stripes shame me it's the no shame me too
Starting point is 00:02:50 shame me instead of educating me and enlightening me it's something like linen it's something like linen my brother on black history month you were saying
Starting point is 00:03:00 it's something like linen you know it's the material you know the material you've seen it I know I never heard it it's striped it's real fine stripes and it got material. You've seen it. I know. I never heard it. It's striped. It's real fine stripes. And it got like a-
Starting point is 00:03:06 Oh, I got some seersucker. I know a couple seersuckers. It's fine. I can't explain it. It's a texture. It's like a texture. Okay. But you've seen it.
Starting point is 00:03:17 No, it's good. I didn't know you owned anything that wasn't black. Oh. Wait, that didn't sound right either. How was it? It was a lot of fun. It was fun. I was hanging out with the wealthy elite.
Starting point is 00:03:32 As they gambled on the horses. I saw a lot of people I know that were there. I'm sure. It looked like one of them type of men. What do you know about horses? Why are you there? Look what a little Jaru and a little Kim does. Get them right out to the horses. It was a lot of fun though. I told Corey, that's the last year. Last year of what? About three years. Why are you there? Look what a little Ja Rule and a little Kim does. Get them right out to the horse. Bring them out. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:03:45 It was a lot of fun, though. I told Corey, that's the last year. Last year of what? About three years. I'm going to get three. Before it turns out. Might be two. Wait, before what?
Starting point is 00:03:53 I don't know what y'all saying. Somebody's horse is going to be shot in a couple years. Yo, fam. Excuse me? Yo, I want to let the audience know that judging from the temperament early on might be toxic today. The chances are high. It might be a tad because somebody got to speak up for men. I had us, man.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I was holding us down until my mom fucking started telling me about Nick Cannon. I see her point. But we'll get into it. What was you saying? That's where you want that Nick? Yeah, but we'll talk about it. Oh, man. What you were saying?
Starting point is 00:04:25 What's that toxic shit you just said? A horse going to get shot? I'll say what he don't want to say. About three more years. I'll say what he don't want to say. The niggas are coming. I didn't say that. That is...
Starting point is 00:04:35 Happy Black History Month. Ice sickles? I just say... Officially ice. You dare. I'm just saying it in a straight up blunt way. But yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Once we find out, we go. And we go in numbers. It was fun. The sets were crazy. Mace Ja Rule. It's going to be different sets. Al DeBarge. Al DeBarge killed it.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Thank you, Barge. Yeah. I caught that. It's going to be different sets. Y'all think. Miami. Y'all think we don't know how to act around the horses? We just going to shoot a horse?
Starting point is 00:05:04 No, not shoot the horses, but it's just going to be different. Well, ice and them peoples get down here. We did fuck up Art Gala. Oh, fuck. Art Basil. Art Basil. Art Gala. Art Gala.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Niggas nicked that all the way out. Art Basil. Yeah, no, it's over for Art Basil. Black Film Festival. It's been over for a little while. Niggas wasn't going down there to see film. We go back further than that. CIAA. It ain't start off that way. Niggas wasn't going down there to see film. We go back further than that. CIAA, it ain't start off that way.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Niggas nigg that out. Yeah. The COVID took Roc Nation brunch from us. Yeah, but that was different. The black Grammys. No, no, no. That was a little different. The niggas didn't nigg that out, though.
Starting point is 00:05:36 That was the black Met. Well, because niggas ain't going to act niggas around the whole. Exactly. You're going to try to be your best black person around Jay-Z. Correct. Yeah. What else niggas fucked up? I thought we was going to take over the Met Gala.
Starting point is 00:05:48 We're not doing that on Black History Month. Oh, yeah. I thought the Met Gala was going to die. We tried to take over Coachella, but it was too many whites. No, we tried. We went over there and sat on some grass, tried to look at some. That was, they got to the oomch, oomch, oomch. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:03 It was like, yeah, no, no. We can't do this. It was oomch. It didn't work. Acoustic guitars like yeah no no yeah it didn't work acoustic guitars yeah yeah no it didn't work Coachella so thorough they ask you when you get there you have you been to and if you say yes I'm sorry it says right here in the fine print that it's in our discretion that we let you in remember the first time you learned about that the fine print saying it's at our discretion whether we let you in or Remember the first time you learned about that? The fine print saying it's at our discretion whether we let you in or out. I think that was the transition
Starting point is 00:06:27 for me when they stopped letting you wear the fitted in the club. And boots. I was like, our discretion. And that was before the sensitive time movement
Starting point is 00:06:38 so you couldn't just throw racism into everything. Yo, this is racist. Lucky Stripes wouldn't let you in on a thing. It said, no Timberlands, no Nike boots.
Starting point is 00:06:47 No athletic gear. No Nike boots on the fucking thing. No do-rag. Nike boots had a chokehold on the hood for a little bit. I'm glad we have graduated.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Graduated. We will. Never mind. I got it. We know. And we celebrate New Yorkers today. Hold up, man.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Let me start this part. Hold up. What a wild weekend. Yeah, this is how I'm starting. Mic check. Mic, mic, mic, mic, mic, mic, mic. I'm going to start dancing. When this comes on, I do dance.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Amber Marks, let's go, though. I've been so dancing. When this comes on, I do dance. Amber Marks, let's go though. I've been so stuck up on my feeling. This will ring off of Coachella. This will ring off of Coachella. Yo. A project, though. This Amber Marks project is incredible. I might play about nine records off this bitch today.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Nine, I'm gonna play one last week. Incredible. I might play about nine records off this bitch today. Sometimes, dressing on these things that take up my whole mind. But there is a time and a place to hold it. Mic check. Hope y'all feeling good, feeling great out there. I should just let it go now. Ooh, yeah. Feelin' my guts made up, I'm fine. Won't miss out on livin', I believe
Starting point is 00:08:05 It's about time I'm gone Yeah, man, it was a snowy weekend in New York It was cold in Miami, too, not nothin' I know, I used to be that guy Enough of y'all, all right? I used to be that guy that would be like, it's not cold, but it's cold, man. Yeah, but enough of y'all with that.
Starting point is 00:08:24 It was a couple of y'all from New York down there in Miami saying that shit. Uh-oh. Shout out to the first and last time listeners. It's toxic today. That's how we on it. I ain't got singles for the cup, but we going to get there. It gone. It's changing, man. That's how we on it, I ain't got singles for the, uh, cup But we gon' get there, it gon' There's no one passing by I'm all in doubt in my head
Starting point is 00:08:49 Shout out to everybody out there Holdin' their head up through dark times I feel you The form of your around Happy relationships I fuck with y'all too out there Hey Run!
Starting point is 00:09:08 Dog, I've been in the house going crazy this weekend. It was a real listen to music weekend for me while I was snowed in. We're gonna get into all the snow that's still left on the fucking roads too. It's nasty outside. Be careful. And check up on your strong friend. We go. I've been acting like You make me feel a little lighter I'm a little brighter
Starting point is 00:09:46 Oh my God, no, turn it down, turn it down. I'm not cutting this off. Turn it down. Let's just talk, yo. Oh my God, yo. That's what I mean about the woman. Yo, the woman, yo. I'm not here to shit on the dudes.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I'm not. It's still Amber? Yes. That's nice. Her album is a groove, yo, Amber Marks. And I already knew that she was her, but I think she really put it together. Her album is called Three Dimensions Deep. Oh, and this is Dark Side.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Anytime you title it Dark Side, I'm going to it. I'm going to it. Some Sound Prince-esque? Yes. A little bit. Yeah. Sound Prince. A lot of it.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And I'm letting it play until I get to the end and hear my guitars. I need guitars Oh, this is the shit you hit me about Ayy, huh? This the album you hit me about Yes, I hit everybody I know about No, you couldn't get it right yet He is a fuckin' motherfucker
Starting point is 00:10:38 He's a little brighter Wait a minute I like the atmosphere Let's go then A lot happened, a lot to talk about As soon as these guitars go off, I'm right here with you, y'all. Uh-oh. Oh, man. Nah, you got...
Starting point is 00:10:58 Uh-oh. When they do that, when they drop the drums, give it a little... Oh! Bring some of that, baby. Oh, no. Some people listen to music. Some people feel it. Don't blame me.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Uh-oh. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We got a vibe. We got a vibe. It's a celebration for New York niggas if you didn't know. We did it. No Joe Button! I never got these. It's part, it's part, it's part, it's part.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Microphone check, one, two, what is this? Welcome to episode 507 of the Joe Budden Podcast I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host Joe Budden here With a few of my nearest and dearest Parks is here, Ish is here, Ice is here, Corey is here Fresh back from D.C., round of applause Round of applause for Corey, yo They had horse race down there too? Nah, nah, he had a dear friend
Starting point is 00:12:23 A dear friend he needed to pick up from the D.C. airport and bring home to New Jersey. Round another round of applause for upstanding black men that show up for love. What's out there doing? In the snowstorm, put that little rear wheel drive on the turnpike. Hit the button. Risked his life, his freedom. Shout out to him. Young boys in the back.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Yo, yo, yo, yo. All right, we good. How's everybody doing? life, his freedom. Shout out to him. Young boys in the back. Yo, yo, yo, yo. All right, we good. How's everybody doing, feeling? What's up? Feeling good. Talk to me. I ain't spoke to y'all since the last time I spoke to y'all. Give it to me.
Starting point is 00:12:52 It's nice to get out of New York for a couple days. I'm not going to lie. It look nice. Yeah. It look nice out there. Nobody don't want to hear that, fam. I'm sorry. Word is born.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I'm sorry. No, we do. It's cold. No, no, no, no. I got a beef with Parks with that. Give it to him. I told y'all about four weeks in advance. No, no, no. No, no, no. I was cool with with Parks with that. It's cold. I told y'all about four weeks in advance. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I was cool with that part. With a CS sucker with no socks. Yeah. Taco meat showing. Talking about something. Yo, it's cold. No, it was chilly, man. Oh, it was chilly down there.
Starting point is 00:13:14 It was chilly. For Miami time. It was Miami cold. Yeah. When you are a New Yorker and live in New York. You don't expect it. I don't want to hear that shit. You cold.
Starting point is 00:13:23 40 degrees is cold. I could have had the jacket out. You know what I'm saying? But I didn't. I was in a suit. to hear that shit, bro. You cold. 40 degrees is cold. I could have had the jacket out. You know what I'm saying? But I didn't. I was in a suit. Freezing. Nah, you did it right. You did it.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Nah, you did it. You look good, though. Anytime you could throw a suit on, clean up, fix up, look sharp. Yeah, Cassidy's a fashion guy, so I couldn't be there. You know what I mean? Levi's. Wouldn't fit right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Well, how was your Miami experience away from the work? Because you were there for what? How long? Three days. I was mostly working the whole time. Cassidy's very thorough with like soundcheck and it was a very intricate, he had two levels of the stage.
Starting point is 00:13:52 The artists were up top in like a living room set up on a camera and then the screens pulled back. So then they ran down to the stage to do their set. It was a lot. So... Depreciate.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Depreciate, yeah. Just doing rehearsal soundcheck was a long time. Longest I've ever done for a soundcheck in my entire life. So, I didn't really get to have much fun.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Got it. Got it. Perfect. Perfect. And it was Mace, Mace, Lil' Kim, Ja Rule,
Starting point is 00:14:16 and Aldebarz came out for like a, yeah. Body. That's dope for us. And Jadakiss came out and did Benjamin's. That's dope for us
Starting point is 00:14:25 from your weekend that you want to share with us shovel snow for your place or your places shovel a whole bunch of snow my bad you want to fix your voice to sound like you awake what's up with you my daughter's second birthday was Sunday
Starting point is 00:14:41 hey happy birthday everybody know they had covid so i canceled i was i was just afraid like i don't want her around nobody like that so i canceled the birthday party and um no we we i like it better this way but um we took her it was the first time to an aquarium loved it and then we took her to a um trampoline park was like really wide spaced out so she wasn't necessarily around a bunch of people. Oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:15:08 And had a blast. So, I realized, yo, I'm that dad that I was ready to fight kids, parents, the people that worked there, like anybody
Starting point is 00:15:16 that even got close to knocking her over. I was like, I gotta chill, bro. This is some shit I can't be at because I was on edge. But no,
Starting point is 00:15:24 great weekend though in a year or two you get to that spot where you just let the kid walk five miles behind you I need to get there cause right now like I'm up on her
Starting point is 00:15:33 like yo little kids coming over to your move yo I love that man I don't know who needs to hear this but your kid be mad behind you in Walmart
Starting point is 00:15:39 what did I do how was your weekend oh man it was great it snowed and snowed and snowed so i figured it was a good time to stay inside and let myself go i didn't go to my barber appointment my manicure my pedicure appointment just junk food a lot of junk food yeah the fridge wasn't really stocked properly mom decided not to really cook too much oh no she did cook we had A lot of junk food? Yeah. The fridge wasn't really stocked properly. Mom decided not to really cook too much. Oh, no, she did cook.
Starting point is 00:16:08 We had a lot of food. We had a lot of food. Corey done it. Look at him. He's like, yeah, wait a minute. Because he come to your house and rummage through the fridge like Brahman. And he look like Brahman a little bit. So it's like, this shit is a fucking mess. Me and my mom looking for short ribs this morning.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Almost killed Corey. Anyway. Nah, you got to tell him, yo, you just gotta tell him it's oink in it. Nah, he could smell the pork. He smelled it and knew it wasn't pork. Dumbass nose. So yeah, that's what I did. I stayed in, let myself
Starting point is 00:16:37 go. I thought about going to Miami with Parks. But when I go to Miami, I don't like to do Miami shit. I like to stay in and sometimes when you're do Miami shit. Like, I like to stay in. And sometimes when you're there, you're like, oh, I could've did this at home.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Not just that, not with the weather. It's 40 degrees down that bitch. For me, it's not about that because I'm never really doing the pool like that. I'm cool with just being away from home.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Sometimes you be home too long, you just get cabin fever. You need to make a move. That was the biggest thing for me. It's like, just getting away from New York for a couple days. But if I pop up in Miami
Starting point is 00:17:06 and anybody finds out I'm in Miami, it's not really the tranquil, serene trip. It's, yo, where's that? It's Nori, it's, I see Kiss out there, Jim Jones,
Starting point is 00:17:18 they all out there. But you can't, you can't pop up in Miami, stay in without letting people know you're in Miami? You can. I'm saying you, because you just said you don't really want to go out. Isn't it a way to just go on some relaxed mode shit and not let nobody, like, you don't
Starting point is 00:17:38 got to post a picture, nothing. Just like, I'm chilling. Yeah, but if you're famous and you walk outside. The horse shit you would have been actually cool at because it was a daytime party. So by the time it's over, everyone's pretty much tired and shit anyway. Like you would have been able to go to that,
Starting point is 00:17:51 have fun, see people for a little bit, and then get the fuck out of there and go about your business. Yeah, see, I'm not mad at that. Man, get you one of those nice little clothes. Yeah, you dress nice. Yeah, listen, man. Yeah, but then it's...
Starting point is 00:18:02 Get you one of them pooch-ice-ty masks. They won't see you. Then at some point, your dick get to jumping while you're by yourself. I know this is all cool. I said we toxic today. If you listening, you offended, then fuck it, it is what it is today.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Yeah, sometimes your dick get to jumping. I didn't want to say nothing. Yeah, man. We all been there. And then what you do in that moment is very important. Yeah. But we'll not talk about that. Let's just get right to it.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Let's start. What's the biggest news? A$AP, Rihanna. That's the biggest news, man. Round of applause? Clap it up. I was so angry. I had to deal with being angry that I had to... This is the final stab to my A$AP Rocky hate. He did it.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I have to stop hating him now. He did it. I have to stop hating him now. He did it. I don't like that when you like, gotta stop hating somebody. Like, I kind of enjoy hating a few niggas
Starting point is 00:18:52 just because. Yeah, and now's not the time to bring up why, but I always felt the way about some of the comments he made about, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:00 when all the murders and shit was happening. He was like, yeah, don't ask me about none of that shit. I don't give a fuck. I'm a rapper. I was like, oh, got it. A little tone deaf. But I shit was happening. He was like, yeah, don't ask me about none of that shit. I don't give a fuck. I'm a rapper. I was like, oh.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Got it. A little tone deaf. But I get it. But I get it, yeah, but tone deaf can make you feel a way, and that's not his fault, and I need to be more understanding. This year, I'm gonna try to do that. So, I'm happy. I'm super happy for them. Like, this is a beautiful story all around the board. It is.
Starting point is 00:19:21 You used to date, both went their separate ways, learned themselves, learned other people, and came back in bliss. Nice. Looking good. More successful than ever, both of them. First child for both of them. Don't love that.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Like, we have a new entry into the power couple world. I mean, it just is what it is. This shouldn't have come as a shock for too many people if you know a new york nigga and women a new york nigga he had up there and the fuck uptown looking for chopped cheese y'all thought it was just what did y'all think was going on honestly like i was surprised at some of the shock and the surprise. She looked happier than ever. Like, you could look in a woman's face and see what's going on. Well, let's be clear.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Man glow. And we unpacking shit today. Fuck it. Unpacking. Man glow. How men interpret a glow and how women interpret it may be different, right? Because a woman will go through a breakup, do her best to presentable to to not show all that she's going through and you'll see 3 000 women talk about oh you look so much better after you let that digger see right through that
Starting point is 00:20:33 oh my god the self-love look what happens when you get the toxicity out of your life all of that and the nigga be sitting there reading like yo dog that ass y'all don't see through this fucking contour they don't they don't men can look and see oh he doing the right thing no why
Starting point is 00:20:53 they don't be contoured up they be minimalistic but they be they eyes start sparkling in a way
Starting point is 00:21:02 gray sweats but they looking like they got on a prom gown. Yeah. They look. Skin start glowing with some whole other shit. They just be,
Starting point is 00:21:11 it is a different look. It is a different look. Like love does that to you. I couldn't be more ecstatic for them. I couldn't be more ecstatic for me. I am so happy about this. Tell me more. We're finally getting take care too.
Starting point is 00:21:25 It's going to happen, yo. It's coming. Hello? Forget about it. Wait, y'all think I was going to lose Rihanna music, ASAP music we lost a little while ago, but it looked like there's going to be more. But he taking Rihanna out there. No, you got to give me something.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Take Care 2 is coming. You might be on to something. And I didn't want to be the guy, but then the internet did it. And they started making their little memes and their jokes. And then I felt bad. Why? Because I'm for men. I'm a man that is for men.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Healthy men, by the way. Not these nasty niggas in front of me. I'm a meninist. I'm a men. Mininist. I'm a mininist. I am. So I understand the hurt that comes with seeing the one that you thought was yours. We all been there. Get pregnant.
Starting point is 00:22:19 We all been there. Or not be yours. I can't even imagine the difficulty that comes with, I was that nigga my whole life. Like, they compare me to the Beatles. I think it's nasty that Drake name even got to come up in this. I do. But men know men.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Right. So they hit him and Chris Brown up. And they let them do it. And it wasn't fair. It wasn't fair because what did they do? They got their own shit going on. But the internet did it. And here we are.
Starting point is 00:22:47 And I understand that pain, like to be scrolling your phone and that joint. Your joint. That's your joint. That's your NFT, yo. Another nigga posted the pic of your NFT and they made a baby NFT. That hurts. That hurts. To that, you gentlemen say what? Don't you?
Starting point is 00:23:05 Oh, nah. Say something, goddammit. We here today. I'm up. They're going to be going through it for a little bit. They're going to be going through it for a lot of it. That ain't no quick hurt right there. Your one? This hurts. That's a pain.
Starting point is 00:23:22 It's a stinger. But why are we saying that this is his one cause everybody that ain't what that ain't what I want yeah I was gonna say how do we know for absolute certainty
Starting point is 00:23:30 that's his one cause he's been saying it for like 13 years on every song every award show Drake at least I don't think it's see Chris
Starting point is 00:23:38 it ain't it ain't so much Chris that's just that's just being funny but Drake really has professed his love and adoration and admiration for Rihanna on a big scale. And he always spoke about them two as if it's only me and you at this level.
Starting point is 00:23:52 So might as well. And that's where it fucking gets tricky, yo. That's where it hurts. What's tricky? What do you mean? Because for him. I'm going to punch Parks in his face. Look, for him.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I hate this. But, yo, for him I'm gonna punch Park in his face look for him if I hate this but yo for him we do it Park if he did that if Drake and Rihanna tied the knot or went down that road
Starting point is 00:24:16 he knows with absolute certainty she ain't on him for who he is true you get what I'm saying any other chick that he meets it's 50-50 if she fucking with you for Drake on him for who he is. True. You get what I'm saying? Any other chick that he meets, it's 50-50.
Starting point is 00:24:29 If she fucking with you for Drake or if she fucking with you for Aubrey. And that does give you a comfort level. Yeah. If you feel like, you feel like, yo, even if I lose her, it's a small pond of who I could lose her to. And now I'm taking this just kind of off Drake
Starting point is 00:24:42 because I don't want to talk about people personally. But when someone outside of that pond just appears just swim up how do you deal with it and how do you deal with it as one of the wealthiest one of the flyest dopest whatever it's me and the beatles that is tough as a man i always listen i always go to i always go to that first season of power i think the women that i was fucking with at the time scorned me because they like looking at ghost fuck but they just like looking at ghost fuck my mind was always on he just murdered nine people and is fucking the pain out with you. That's deep.
Starting point is 00:25:27 So now what got to happen here? You know what got to... Oh, and it's a few... Listen, listen. It might be a scary hour's coming. I'm trying to talk without talking, yo. A movie is on the way. And it better be some Spielberg shit. Look at this, yo.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Think he'll address it? Huh? What? Excuse me? Think he'll address it? Who? A$AP? Drake.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Yes. 100%. One million. Yes. He might. Nah, he's sensitive. Yeah. And you're going to peek through the lyric and say, uh.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Now tell me what y'all are going to say when that happens. And that's a shame that we still talking about a man. I know. I'm trying to get off of this, but yeah. I know, because y'all ain't saying shit. But I know y'all have a lot to share about it. It's not that. It's just I don't want to shit on they.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Nah, it's just feel like we shitting on their moment by talking so much about Drake with this shit. Honestly. That's why I don't have nothing really to say about it. Well, there's nothing more for us to say but congratulations to them and how beautiful it is. That's the end of that. They did it. The pain is coming. We all agree on that.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Well, I believe we do. The pain is coming. We know him. We know how he give it up in his lyrics. He's been giving it up on records with her. And they make beautiful songs. They get busy. Yeah. Your dude had an album.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Now that's a dead... Fam. Come on. You know what you're getting. I don't know if he gonna be in his feelings. I know when your one get away, you'll be feeling some sort of way. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Fam. It'd be your one for a minute. She'd get away, you'd be like, uh... Him? But how you... Oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:27:04 That's what you're doing? That's what you're doing that's what you're doing ma i mean my my little fake one i had back in the day i felt like something there we go come on finally fucking work with me yo anyway now you you just he feeling it if that's his one he deep deep deep in his emotions right now. Cause again, for him, shorty having a baby with another nigga, you,
Starting point is 00:27:29 I turned into Forrest Gump. I was jogging so much trying to get that shit out of my head. I mean, you know, it is what it is. Ben ego be different. You got to be in your own feelings. I don't think he'll put it on wax.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I 100% think he's going to put it on wax. You getting a double, double desk. No, he's, I got 50. I'm going to put it on wax. You're getting a double desk. I got 50. I'm going to take that. He's from Canada? So just so I'm clear, you think this guy's
Starting point is 00:27:51 not putting this on? He ain't going to say her name, but you're going to put it on wax. Just so I understand. You might change the name. Yo, you know he got
Starting point is 00:27:59 sued for this, for taking a real voicemail and putting it on there. Right now, it ain't going to help you. You think this person is not saying a word?
Starting point is 00:28:10 Never. I'm just saying you could do... Alright, I'm done talking about Drake. I am finished talking about Drake. I am done talking about Drake. I'll get back to the issue at hand. Okay. What do you do in that moment
Starting point is 00:28:25 when you see yours that? And yes, Ish, I have sent a text that I shouldn't have sent before. I don't care if you judge me for it. I think a lot of men have done that.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Sometimes it was a Dirty Mac text out of ego and hurt. That's a real hurt that's a real that's a realistic scenario for men it is like I don't want us
Starting point is 00:28:49 to come on here just fronting cause we men niggas understand what's going on here yo and it's painful to that possibly
Starting point is 00:28:58 I mean we've all been through the relationship ups and downs I don't know how long ago they stopped fucking with each other
Starting point is 00:29:04 they were together in 2013 2013 the relationship ups and downs. I don't know. How long ago they stopped fucking with each other? They were together in 2013. 2013. I mean, I've been in relationships. I don't know if he still considers her his one, but you be fucked up when you initially break up. I don't know, 10 years down the road, you still feel like that,
Starting point is 00:29:20 but I already unfollowed them both on the gram. He did. He did? He did. feel like that but i already unfollowed them both on the gram he did he did he did oh come on i'm sitting here trying to ride for my light-skinned brother this thing gonna unfollow them you should just ride for all your brothers during black history but but yeah that's a move that's a today move yeah it, it is. Y'all don't fuck with you. I'm letting you know that I don't fuck with you. See, but this is where it get a little tricky and I'm off of them.
Starting point is 00:29:51 But sometimes you, that's your one. And then she lets you know that it's no longer like that. I think she's been doing that. She's, she has let it be. She has. She has.
Starting point is 00:30:01 So I'm sitting here empathizing, empathizing, but she made herself clear, yo. And it was mad other relationship. Yes, that's right. They were public. She walked off the stage at one point. We was there for all of that.
Starting point is 00:30:14 So that's just entitlement. Ego. Ego. I think it's ego. It's all ego. It's me. I'm at the top of the list. No matter what, you're going to end up back here to me.
Starting point is 00:30:24 How do you know when you lost? Can I ask y'all that and y'all respond or no? You know you lost when she posted a picture smiling, holding a dude's hand with a baby bump. No, that's when the race is really, really, really over. But sometimes you lost before the baby. No, you said how do you know? You might never think you lost. You can always think even if she was this nigga.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I think if your ego, you really want to keep it a buck Yeah Then nigga might not still think he lost True Like when certain niggas egos be They ego You feel like Yo nobody can hold the candle to me
Starting point is 00:30:53 Nigga I'm me I don't give a fuck If you got married 15 times You still longing for me And it also depends on what The communication and shit is All of that I'm just saying When you think this shit, and I'm not putting this on them.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I'm talking about just in general. You think you've come across your one. Y'all done had them conversations at some point. Family, building together, all of that. Y'all had them conversations. And you might still think I got my shot because she hasn't found that with anybody else. The things that we talked about when you i'm let me finish no i ain't saying nothing when you see it oh shit not she got
Starting point is 00:31:32 knocked up no no no this is a happy pregnancy here they holding hands smiling and did a reveal like when you start seeing that shit hit a little different that's what i'm saying it's fucking foolish yo I've seen that before. It's 70% of niggas. That'd be fake though. Be clear, nigga. If you really want to kick it, chicks be out here doing that
Starting point is 00:31:51 just because and so when this is where your ego kicks in. Yeah, he was the plan B. I wasn't ready. He was the plan B. You want to talk toxic man shit, niggas be like,
Starting point is 00:32:02 yo, I could get that, I could get her back today if I wanted to. He was the plan B's that's niggas lying to themselves too that don't necessarily be that no no no no no no no nigga lying to himself said i could get her back if i wanted to but i don't want us right now so i'm not gonna get her back you know he can't get her back i'm not even talking about them and a lot of times a nigga can't he that's what he tell himself to sleep better at night is that i could get her back whenever i want and let me advance it let's pretend that you can get her back oh now it's two of you it's not the same whatever your position is
Starting point is 00:32:36 you share that position however tight y'all was you can see there's another person that she is sharing that intimacy with that closeness that you thought was exclusive to you. It don't necessarily need to be a baby. It don't need to be a pic. Yeah, but again. You can see when your spot ain't really your spot no more. Yeah. Like, what the fuck are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:32:58 I think so. If you savvy enough or been around enough women or been around the block enough, you know what's going on. And again, you might have to just tell yourself some shit to sleep at night because otherwise you're going to be up sick. And as men. And we do that. We do that. We've been up sick. We do that.
Starting point is 00:33:12 We tell ourselves some shit. We hit her about the nigga. She hit the nigga about what you said. Like, yo, come on, man. And that's when you know her. Do y'all want a pod or not if I tell a nigga then it's a problem
Starting point is 00:33:27 but I don't really be doing that we got that we know that you don't do that but then she come back and tell you what he said do y'all want to talk or not stay there I think it's fake then if she comes back and tells you
Starting point is 00:33:43 if she tells a nigga what you said and come back and tell you what the nigga think it's fake then. If she comes back and tells you, yeah. If she tells the nigga what you said and come back and tell you what the nigga said, she's fake. She's playing two sides. She's playing both sides. She just wants the attention. She's on it. I started with that.
Starting point is 00:33:55 No, but the fact that she's coming back to you. No, you saying she comes back to you and tells you what the nigga said. Oh, you take that differently than me. If you come back and are regurgitating, if I'm telling you something for you, because that's what it be with like a real nigga. I'm like, oh, this for you, yo. Here, do with this what you will.
Starting point is 00:34:15 And now she come to you regurgitating his response when she went and, nah, that's mad telling. She's mad telling. She's mad telling. That ain't telling to me. Because she shouldn't be coming back to you saying nothing. It's telling me she's mad. If I'm over you you, like, I've had instances in my past where the dude was trying to get her back. And he swore this was his one.
Starting point is 00:34:34 He blowing her phone up. He's sending messages. He's everything possible he could do. She's showing me the message right next to me like, yo, look at this nigga. I was like, answer it if you call her. Man, fuck that. I just want you to say, yo, look at this nigga. I was like, answer it if you call her. Man, fuck that. I just want you to say, like, look at him. But she's not running back saying nothing that I knew.
Starting point is 00:34:51 It didn't get back anywhere. My opinion is, if she really over you, you can say whatever the fuck you want to say. I'm not even telling my dude. Much less I'm going to carry the mail from my dude back to you. No, never. That don't happen when it's over. When she's really over you, that don't happen then.
Starting point is 00:35:07 But you said that's when it's really over. When she comes back and tells you what the nigga said. Over as in your position is no longer exclusive. Not over as in you can't be with her again. You saying it like you share that spot now. Yeah. That's what you talking about.
Starting point is 00:35:23 When we say over, we talking about there is no spot for you no more yeah it's over nigga you could do whatever you want as a man as a man whatever you want to do as a man i'm not gratified and oh no you feel like that about me but you feel like that about him oh you're with him i can fuck you whatever i want though like a lot of men find solace in that again and it's a lot of niggas that's lying to themselves thinking they have it like that but they really don't they think oh she's with him i can fuck him whenever i want but i that's what they tell their boys to look good that's still my work so what happens when you really could do that do it man round of applause for harlem niggas don't tell me i'm'm from Missouri. Show me.
Starting point is 00:36:05 If you can fuck her like that, like you say, you could go do it. All that talk don't mean nothing. You just saying that to sound good, to look good around your niggas. Ah, man, I ain't off that.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Yeah, that's still my joint, man. That's still whatever. That's whatever help you sleep better at night, bro. Yeah. She's happy, and she look like she ain't returning your texts
Starting point is 00:36:21 or calls or nothing, but you want to be, you so prideful, you can't show that, so you got to act like i still got that in that in could have been closed a long time ago you just can't take the l and let niggas know that perfect example of this meek tweet what did you tweet i love a good meek tweet yo and we'll get back to this because i want to i do want to talk about we know how men feel we know how new yorkers feel yeah we up um new yorkers i do want to talk about how women feel about this but me tweeted and i quote dog well that's not the quote that's how i read it you did not hit my girl little little chick, or whatever you call it.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I just ripped before you. I know it's a little exciting that we touched the same women, LOL. You don't got to downplay me to boost your ego up, LOL. Just vibe out. I want to ask each of you how y'all interpret that. Because I've been listening. Is this the I hit it first argument? No.
Starting point is 00:37:24 It's, yo yo I'm famous and if you pop something that I pop you run around saying you pop my chick just because I hit it that don't mean she my chick oh okay
Starting point is 00:37:34 I just hit it before you hit it she ain't mine she for the streets see from this is this is this is just funny
Starting point is 00:37:42 this is just funny for me because it's the same week that said, if a nigga hit my chick, I'm just going to keep it player. That's what he's saying. No, that's not what he's saying. He's saying, you ain't hit my chick.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I just hit before. Basically, if you got her, she ain't mine no more. You can't hit my chick. That's what I take from this. You didn't hit my girl. No, I took this. Whoever he talking about
Starting point is 00:38:02 was his favorite little thing. It was his favorite little thing it was his favorite little thing and something happened but he still thought it was his favorite little thing and something outside of the pool did something and he ain't like it and he heard some stories nigga ran around they running around they're going to eat they had fucking great adventure wherever they going and it's getting back to him and this is the response yo just catch a vibe dog i know she dope relax though stop talking about me stop holding hands why are you how you do you extra with it just chill she cool i know she cool i was there that is exactly what this says it's ego but if you don't know that
Starting point is 00:38:41 this says that right because a lot of niggas see that you don't know what this means unless you been there this is how men respond to some of this shit but anyway enough about men I like his response you like whose response
Starting point is 00:38:54 me I like that response what what do you like about that fam you ain't hit yo chill if you hit it
Starting point is 00:39:02 you hit it I know you happy you run around telling niggas yeah I'm fucking with Meek Chordy because you less than me. You want to put yourself in the same stratosphere as I'm in. Just be cool, my nigga. You got it.
Starting point is 00:39:11 You got it. Well, I'm with that part. Saying a nigga name. Like, oh, it's Meek Chick. Like, I don't care about none of that. I'm just saying. I'm trying to get props. Niggas do that.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Oh, no. Niggas are glad to touch the same chicks as some other niggas. That's what he said. I feel like I'm on your level now Because I'm touching And you think it should be said If that's what he's saying I didn't think that's what he said It depends on how
Starting point is 00:39:30 How outlandish The other niggas getting Like certain niggas Are running around Trying to shit on your name He's saying yo You don't gotta downplay me Cause you pop shorty
Starting point is 00:39:38 Don't be running around Like yeah I'm popping his chick That ain't my chick dog Niggas be excited though Niggas do be excited I'm not disagreeing so he's saying chill with your excitement
Starting point is 00:39:48 my nigga yeah but that's not one of us to say so leave my name out of it if a nigga comes popping your old work and they like yeah I got Joe Shorty
Starting point is 00:39:58 blah blah blah blah blah nigga did that it's happened to me how many times which time you wanna talk about and even when that happened one of the bigger times, I watched everybody clown you. I'm like, he don't look like a clown for that? No, it depends.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Yeah, he did, too. Like, that's all I took from him. Forget the fact that Joe my man's in there. I'm just looking at the situation like, why is he bigged up for, you popped my old work. I wish I knew what time it was. No, what I'm saying is, in that instance, I think I know what you're talking about. Right? Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Good, good. And I'm saying, he does look like a fool. So Joe wouldn't have been wrong if he said, yo, my nigga, chill out. That's my old work. I know you happy. You got it. I think he did say it. There you go. You wouldn't have been wrong If he said yo my nigga Chill out That's my old word I know you happy You got it I think he did say it There you go You wouldn't be wrong
Starting point is 00:40:49 That's what he's saying to me I think it's nasty to say it Cool I do Clowns gotta be addressed though You gotta address clowns Let them know Yo you're moving like a clown
Starting point is 00:40:58 Sometimes no address Isn't addressed Right Like and if you really And if you really are Full of this love And confidence and your ego is based on whatever i'm that nigga yeah then you have you gotta go be that nigga yeah that's true anything that falls outside of that that ain't a touchdown ain't six points and tweeting to somebody that
Starting point is 00:41:19 you think is lesser than or reacting to somebody that you think is lesser than while he got whatever he's running around with it just makes you appear a certain way even if that's not the case it makes you appear bothered and i'm not speaking about me necessarily i have been here 90 million times i was just talking i have i have gotten my car and spun dykeman blocks at 3 a.m. hoping to catch that little nigga out there beneath me. Yeah, I agree. Totally out of character. And
Starting point is 00:41:50 might not even know what happened if I seen somebody. But guess what? In that moment, I was psycho enough to look. Shit happened. On to the women. Yo.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Come on, you niggas stop answering your opinions. Nah, nah, nah. On to the, they have to you niggas Stop answering your opinions Nah nah nah On to the They have to be happy for Riri Bullshit Round of applause For women loving each other
Starting point is 00:42:12 Women loving and Pouring into each other I couldn't believe This shit I saw You saw a lot of hate I saw mostly love 70-30 Yeah probably something like that.
Starting point is 00:42:25 That's a lot of hate. The 30 is disgusting. That's a lot of hate. No doubt. Fam, they dissing the shit out of Rocky. He ain't did nothing. They dissed the shit out of Rihanna. How dare you?
Starting point is 00:42:35 No, they dissing Rocky. But I... The disrespect to her is via him. Right, yeah. True. Now you're right. They ain't dissing her. No, no, but...
Starting point is 00:42:42 No, I've seen... She's stupid for doing X, Y. That's a diss to her saying that. She's stupid for downside. What'd they say? Downgrading. Downgrading. You downgraded.
Starting point is 00:42:52 That's dissing him. That's dissing her too. They're being dissed. We ain't got to go back and forth on that. They both are being dissed. But the fact is women fucking hate each other, dog. I couldn't believe this. Like women were straight up upset. I mean mean i've only been telling you from i liked you better with this person that's weird yeah they like he was a
Starting point is 00:43:13 billionaire how dare you that's weird they did say how do you leave a billionaire for him i was like maybe because i got my own b right maybe because that billionaire was treating me like a piece of shit and y'all don't know that. Or she just didn't like him. And it helps you have your own B. Helps to have your own B. A B is nice. Nice. Like,
Starting point is 00:43:33 yo, y'all are nuts. That's all I can say. They different. I saw a couple other women saying, oh shit, Rihanna pregnant. All right,
Starting point is 00:43:40 I got to hurry up and have a baby now. I saw a lot of that. There's a lot of that. Y'all are fucking nuts And that is the problem Plan B sales will be down For the rest of the year Fellas be careful
Starting point is 00:43:51 Fellas Valentine's Day Right around the corner She made it look cute It's over yo I'm gonna be surprised If it may I see a whole bunch
Starting point is 00:43:58 Of pink bubble gooses With they stomach open Nah they want a baby Nah they want a baby They wanna wear the bubble gooses. Well, I've seen somebody redo the exact same thing. Yeah, no. They want this.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Ain't going to be too many plan Bs this summer. And this has really changed the course of the summer, yo. Like, if they get to fucking now and shooting up the club now, it's a lot of our favorite sundresses that's going to just be stripped away from the summertime. They're going to be sitting up in the house. And Valentine's Day is right around the corner. That's what I just said. Sit her down for the summer.
Starting point is 00:44:33 February. Park it right here, ma. Yo, wanting a baby because Rihanna got one is sick. It's insane. But I definitely have had a woman leave me because lemonade dropped by Beyonce. So I don't put nothing past women.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I saw women confused at lemonade at the end like yo, so do I leave this nigga or not? Like tell, you didn't make it clear enough. What do I do?
Starting point is 00:44:53 What is wrong with you? Beyonce got enough power to make you leave your nigga? That's sick. Oh no, Beyonce has nothing. You need a hug. I definitely don't want
Starting point is 00:45:00 to hear Rihanna happy music. Sorry. Don't worry. I'm not. You're not hearing no music. I'm not. I've been telling y'all, but it's over. Big dub.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Now is it really a rap? What? It's been a rap. It's been a rap. I love when, like, her last album is anti, but now she's in love with her baby doing shit like that she's never done before. Like, I love that. Fans got gotta be ready
Starting point is 00:45:25 to grow with the act, yo. Like, you can't just start shitting on people because, like, whatever Nicki Minaj said to Rihanna, it really, what did she say?
Starting point is 00:45:33 You've been blessing us for so long, finally a gift for you. Like, it paused me. That's hard. That's dope. It paused me. That's hard.
Starting point is 00:45:40 This nigga been working her ass off. Facts. For mad long. I think she got the Def Jam when I was, like, on the way out or something like that. her ass off facts for mad long i think she got the def jam when i was like on the way out or something like the 05 it's mad long 15 years or so of dominance of sheer in multiple worlds i jumped over here i dumped she they opening brick and mortar stores now like she's not playing. Fashion shows,
Starting point is 00:46:05 like, yo, Rihanna is killing shit. We're not seeing an album for at least three years. If ever. We're not seeing an album. Put the period after album. She might throw her name on one of ASAP albums.
Starting point is 00:46:19 You might get a feature. You might get a feature or something. You're not getting a full-length Rihanna solo project. It's not happening yeah she's definitely gonna be on one of his hooks and before y'all take this the wrong way because i saw the clip floating around they tried to say you shitting on cardi b that's a good thing nobody's dissing anybody that's not a diss it's not a diss yeah i love cardio cardi's my girl
Starting point is 00:46:42 like i think i've expressed that 20 good billion times on this podcast. And, but I get that we're in like clip era. Yeah. Like that's big. Everybody don't have the time, especially her to watch a three hour podcast and really dig into what you said.
Starting point is 00:46:59 So we're just seeing something and we're being reactive. I want to be as understanding to that. And you don't necessarily want to hear the shit. You know what I'm saying? If you see a clip and it appears that they're shitting on you,
Starting point is 00:47:10 you're not necessarily going to listen to the whole shit. You're going to rest around it. Well, then a large part of that too is how was the clip introduced to you? What was the caption
Starting point is 00:47:19 that they wrote underneath the salacious monetizing motherfuckers that be doing that shit? Or no, one of your homeboys. Or your homegirl. I don't even think it was that way.
Starting point is 00:47:26 I think somebody said, yo, they shitting on you, look. Yeah, that was the next one. So I want to make myself clear to Cardi and her husband Offset, because that's a big thing. Yes. That I love y'all and I'm never implying that Cardi is lazy. I just know what music is today for people. And that is a loss leader or like an introduction. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Well, what did she say? That you implied she was lazy? All right, well, your quote. You want to read what you said first? No, I'm not reading what the fuck I said here. I'm just saying. I said some shit. She thought I was calling her lazy because I said that she had all the time and resources to handle this Tasha K shit because she's not making an album.
Starting point is 00:48:10 And I've been saying that we're not getting an album for a while. I doubled down on that. Her last project was 2017 or 2018. It's been about close to four years. But she's extremely busy. I didn't mean that to imply she's not working. In my next breath, I stated how much money she's giving away. She's an that to imply she's not working in my next breath i stated how much money she's giving away if she's an earner that's not from laziness that is sheer
Starting point is 00:48:31 work ethic and i'm gonna always support her even if she dissed me every fucking day because i was in the strip club yes you see where it started i synced it i was there it's impossible to dis her the other day the other day i was checking a little bartender lineups out there, and I saw one of the girls dancing that I haven't seen her in a while. But where I know her from, she was Cardi's best friend and partner. And they were strip club partners as they hopped around from Brooklyn to Queens and Jersey. And the other girl was bad. Cardi maybe at the time wasn't the baddest in the strip club, but her partner was bad. And I'm looking at her still be bad today.
Starting point is 00:49:12 And then I'm thinking about Cardi. Like, how could you be from New York and not stand up and salute that? So, Cardi, I love you. I'm really sad you misinterpreted me that way. I don't even blame that on her. I'll try to be better. That's not on her. Like you said, that's on whoever introduced that to her.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Because that's what people do. They look for this little clip to get some shit started. I'm taking the onus off of people this year. I'm putting it all on me. I will be better. Fam, all right. I know Zen Joe, all that shit. I will be better fam
Starting point is 00:49:42 alright I know Zen Joe all that shit if I'm praising you and a motherfucker decides to take 10 seconds of that to flip it
Starting point is 00:49:52 that I'm dissing you what else can I do there's nothing you can take off of them that was intentional I have to put my praise in a 10 second clip and hope that they take it
Starting point is 00:49:59 I'm just joking around her quote she said I heard something about me and I don't like that I don't know why motherfuck I heard something about me and I don't like that. I don't know why motherfuckers assuming shit about me and I really don't motherfucking like that. I'm hearing, right, a little bird was talking about me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:14 You have to. You have to. I love birds. Why do you love birds? I love fucking birds. Oh, my God. I'm hearing, right, that a little bird was talking about me and practically was saying that i'm not doing anything because i don't have an album out and all that shit
Starting point is 00:50:30 it's like somebody said that that's yeah that's somebody telling you that's a call you could not possibly have heard what i said and walked away with that cardi is not on that side of things i don't think no but it's somebody that listens to the pot it. It got back to somebody close to her, bro. This is two separate conversations. Yeah. The one conversation where you're constantly saying, yo, she's mad busy, she got family now, she's not thinking about an album,
Starting point is 00:50:53 and you keep saying we're not getting an album no time soon is one whole different set of pods than when you was talking about her giving out money to everybody. It's fine. We love them both. We wish them the best. Round of applause. What am I the best. Round of applause. What am I applause?
Starting point is 00:51:06 I'm not applause. No, I'm not jumping to music. It's more babies. There is more babies. There's more babies. Yeah, there is. The Brad is pregnant. Round of applause.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Congratulations. Brad, we love you. Yo, love is in the air, man. City Boy is down. City Boys are down By like a hundred It's fine City boys can be out with love
Starting point is 00:51:29 I mean okay Niggas knocking people up Yeah They ain't getting knocked up By they self Nah it's the suburb boys ASAP ain't no suburb boy It's a Harlem nigga right there
Starting point is 00:51:42 Yeah Oh no It's Harlem week It's Harlem week. It's Harlem week. What you talking about? City Boys is actually up. Yo, this is the last win that the Harlem niggas needed, yo.
Starting point is 00:51:52 They already felt like they was the niggas after Peyton Full. Nah, this got them back, though, because they took a little notch down after the versus. So, they back. Nah, they back. ASAP did it. Salute to Harlem. ASAP. Yeah, nah, he did it.
Starting point is 00:52:03 He did it. All right. I didn't see so much excitement about Nick Cannon's big reveal. And for me, it was a roller coaster watching women be totally excited about Rihanna and then totally shit on Nick. But that's my man brain. And the further I thought about it and spoke to my mother, this is a deep one. What did Ms. Faye have to offer? This is a deep topic. to my mama this is a deep one what miss faye had this is a deep topic uh if you don't know nick cannon revealed that he is expecting his eighth child with a model i'm not i don't not
Starting point is 00:52:32 get into that with a model that's great unless you don't view it that way and apparently a lot of women out there don't what i'm hearing i can't speak for anybody is they think this is like sperm donorish like to plant your seed everywhere when you won't no matter how uh well off you are you won't have the time to be as present in all of these children's lives they think it's selfish they think it's a little irresponsible they further that with nick cannon has a talk show and he made his announcement on his talk show okay okay he lost the child probably a month ago i'm not sure on the time because i'm not reading this something like that but it was about a month ago And while he's expressing his excitement over his current pregnancy, the last woman that lost her child and went through that very dark time with him
Starting point is 00:53:34 has to watch it, is still grieving, and it hurts. And she replied. I thought her reply was really classy. She said, I want to thank every single person who has messaged or thought of me over the course of these last few months. I always say Zen expanded my heart in ways I never thought possible. He filled that space with compassion, knowing I would need that the most. It is painful having my son be a part of conversations that aren't in alignment with his light and legacy. It isn't something I chose for him or myself. It's important for me to let
Starting point is 00:54:03 you all know I am centered. I am at peace. I look at everyone's predicament with loving eyes. I will not judge. I will consciously decide what I will participate in. I'm surrounded by love. God, my mom, dad, sister, brother, and daughter continue to carry me. Beautiful words, especially in this moment where i know that has to be a tough
Starting point is 00:54:26 time for her uh before i spoke to my mom and before i really got into this part of it because nick explained on his show that the baby he's expecting he was expecting they were expecting together she was pregnant first that didn't matter to me but i understand why he said it That didn't matter to me. But I understand why he said it. Why he said what? Which piece? Why he shared that, hey, this young lady was pregnant before the woman that lost the baby.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I can understand why he said that. I just don't know if it helped as much as he hoped it would. I don't think it would have helped. if he did not. Hoped it would. I don't think it would have helped. If I'm him, and you know I fuck with Nick Cannon, if I'm him,
Starting point is 00:55:11 it borders the line of insensitive and selfish. Because now you're elated that you're having a kid. This lady is not having another kid anytime soon. She's still going through the grief that she had a month ago. So now you cheering,
Starting point is 00:55:26 hoorah, she ain't getting a hoorah so i just think it's kind of like in bad judgment a little bit to put like if you're having a kid already that's cool but i wouldn't have publicly announced it just so i'm not mad at the publicly announcing it part. I'm with everybody who said this is selfish. And I said this with the last. I literally said all of that. This shit is nuts to me. I'm saying that with regards to the, again, what somebody does with their significant others is their business. I don't think it's society's realm to judge him for having a bunch of kids.
Starting point is 00:56:06 I think that if he comes and sits down with each individual woman and if they decide that this course of action is cool for them, who the fuck are we to say it's not? It's motherfuckers out here that don't see their kids, don't do for their kids, or women that ain't the best mothers every single day that don't have seven or eight kids. You know what I'm saying? Who the fuck are we to really pass judgment on how somebody's rearing their kids? We're not. ain't the best mothers every single day that don't have seven to eight kids. You know what I'm saying? Like, who the fuck are we to really pass judgment on how somebody's rearing their kids?
Starting point is 00:56:28 We're not. I'm talking about the little baby that passed away and now you're announcing that another baby is on the way and the psychological effects
Starting point is 00:56:38 it has on a woman that lost her kid. That's the piece I'm talking about. Him having seven, he got 50 kids. Who the fuck are we to judge him having 50 kids?
Starting point is 00:56:47 See, that was always my kind of feel for it. As long as Nick is happy and his partners are happy and they have their own understanding, then who am I to judge? But people are judging. Women are judging. Me too. People are judging. Like, women are judging.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Men too? I'm with you on how he handled this. And it maybe not being in the best fashion. I just don't know how else he does this part. This part here. He's going to keep having kids. Well, I started hearing women say, well, when do you stop? Whenever he feels like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Y'all think women are out of line for for this thought about him no i agree with them yes and no um i think that again i just think that it's contingent upon what they share i think that your values yeah i think they out of line your values you can't place your values on me i'm with actually you can't place your values on me dog like again you you could look at a bunch of families muhammad ali got kids by multiple wives um pop marley got a bunch of kids like yo you can't say that but because i wouldn't do this you shouldn't do this that's not why i say it at all personally i'm just saying I disagree with this
Starting point is 00:58:06 because there's things that if you got eight kids scattered around there's things you can't indeed do and true and it's not fair to the kid
Starting point is 00:58:14 and not enough money in the world can replace that part that's the only if though hold on and that don't make us judgy for acknowledging
Starting point is 00:58:22 that that is true and that's why I said I don't even feel like I'm judging him. I agree a thousand percent with that. Now, if you have a compound and they all live there and you can do your thing, whatever. I don't even think it has to be that.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Ice, Nick Cannon run a show out of New York. Okay. I'm assuming most of his baby moms live in LA. He's running a daily talk show in new york city i know plenty of women that wanted to have kids and didn't care whether a father was there or not maybe they have their own family situation or idea of what a family situation may be and maybe that's the situation that these women have with him so i agree with that i'm talking about from the child's perspective who wants who children need their both parents i agree with that I don't care about that part like yeah
Starting point is 00:59:05 the woman might say I don't need a man here but the child needs the father if the I mean there's a lot of kids we see what happens when there's no fathers we do
Starting point is 00:59:13 and that's my that's my only thing it's if they scattered out like that it is impossible to literally be there for everything and this is where
Starting point is 00:59:23 as you should be if you're an active and good father so i take offense to that being the father that i am i'm not putting my values on him i personally okay well then maybe i am but i take offense to that being the father that i am knowing what it takes you just got to be there for your kids and the amount of money you have can't replace that part but what if she has someone else who is a father figure person that is taking that role
Starting point is 00:59:50 I'm asking Ice the man does a five day a week show in New York City so it's already hard he does a five day a week show in New York City so let's say he had one kid or two kids it's already hard you get what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:00:05 I don't get what you're saying he's out of LA five days a week he's across the country five days a week 3,000 miles away I assume I think he does it on a daily thing I think he does it daily it looks live
Starting point is 01:00:20 it's a studio audience but cool he's across the country. So that same exact train of thought applies now. So he's not supposed to go take that job because he won't be there five days out of the week? I'm not saying. I'm asking. I'm asking a question.
Starting point is 01:00:38 No. To answer your question, yes, he still takes the job. Yes. Okay. yes he still takes the job yes okay the selfish part comes to me comes in when i know i'm already it's going to be hard for me with one or two because i'm across the country now i'm going to intentionally have three four five six seven and eight but the same argument could be made that you don't need the money you could stay here in la and work and get as much money possibly as going to new york so don't take that job. Stay here.
Starting point is 01:01:05 No, that would be ignorant to say. It's not? We don't know that. That's not fact based. We don't know that. We know that Nick Cannon has enough money that if he wanted to live in California and support his kids, he could. I do not know. We know that. Yes. Wait, hold up. Yes, we don't know that.
Starting point is 01:01:22 I mean, we do know that. I'm saying I don't know that the mean we do know that i'm saying i don't know that the bag available in new york is that same bag this is the same nick cannon he went through with mbc he went through it a little bit with uh wilding out over there over there um they shut down his tour and he went low for a little bit like nick persevered y'all fuck with i fuck with the same so this show for the people that can't tell I've said it before, was supposed to be the Guy Wendy show for the network. It was either supposed to be before Wendy or after Wendy or grooming him to be. And he said on the show last week, yo, my mentor Steve Harvey had him up here.
Starting point is 01:02:03 They are grooming Nick and have been grooming Nick since he was yay high to be that dude. This check is different. I'm not saying he can't get it over there, but he was over there. Sure. I'm just saying, I'm not saying no to the job.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I'm with you. I'm not saying no to this. I'm just saying the same mental thing could be put that, yo yo you are traveling across the country five days a week out of seven you could stay here to be a better parent that's not what i was saying i know that's not what you're saying okay i'm saying but that could be said following your train of thought my thing is that it's just hard to judge without knowing what these women's situations is because what if they are there's a million things that could be true. Maybe without knowing any of these women, I don't know any of their backstories,
Starting point is 01:02:50 I don't go on Shade Room and log in and look at their shit. Maybe she's in a relationship with someone who is not fertile and wanted to have a kid. Or maybe she's in a lesbian relationship and wants to have a kid. There's a million things that could be true where there's a father figure involved. It just doesn't have to necessarily be Nick and he is acting as a sperm donor. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:03:10 So without knowing the full situation, everyone's situation, it's hard for me to judge it. Let me ask you a question. Actually, both of you. Forbid you and your girl break up. Right?
Starting point is 01:03:21 Do you stay in a relationship because your daughter needs a full-time dad in the house? No, but I was I could still be a. No, no, no, no. Let me answer. Let me. Oh, well, you have more questions. Your answer was no. Let me ask. Go ahead, though. Was that the end of the question? That's the question I asked. Your answer was no. My answer was no. Cool. Now. I would still be a full-time dad without living in the household with her and somebody could not me somebody could pose the argument that you need to be present in a house i didn't
Starting point is 01:03:56 say i would love to finish all right somebody could pose the question that to do this properly you have to be living in a household so that you could be there for whatever your kid needs on a whim i don't agree with that i'm just saying somebody could pose that argument and i'm telling you that you i disagree with that argument cool that's so in the same way he could potentially disagree oh yeah he can disagree all he want that's that's his life i'm telling you my stance so you ask do people agree with that and do they do i agree with the selfish comment yes because i'm not i have one kid when i got eight and they all over it's different i can't be here if if if i live in a separate household it wouldn't one it wouldn't be too far away from my kid. That's me. That's my decision.
Starting point is 01:04:45 It would not be but so far away to where I can still get there. If it's a phone call, if she's sick, whatever the case may be, I can still get there. I'm not going to be hours away, et cetera, et cetera. That's my decision, though. Now, if I got one here and one here and one here and one here and two here and three here, it gets a little bit more complicated. Way more. Now, when I'm intentionally doing this, it gets to me to be selfish at that point.
Starting point is 01:05:17 That's all I'm saying. Gotcha. Round of applause to Nick Cannon for bringing more life into the world man they say ben's point purpose is to be fruitful and multiply so he's doing it for me it only gets tricky and i'm getting off this we closing this we're gonna move it's music i want to get to i want to talk about music but like i be getting my info from women so i've heard women say when guys say hey we need to be there as the dad starts kids can have a better life i've heard women say that guys say hey we need to be there as the dad so our kids can have a better life I've heard women say that we're
Starting point is 01:05:48 wrong for assuming that a child can't be raised properly without a dad and that's not what we be saying we just be saying it's probably better with the dad that's it they are wrong
Starting point is 01:06:02 well when you win an argument against a woman what did you win oh you really love birds so how is that that's fucking from a therapist i'll give it to you fine you love actually no that came from a senior citizen uh at the gas station heard me on the phone going hey i knew i was why i told you and he's like yo i'm gonna give you something my dad gave me and he said that you're like damn all right um listen music i'm all for babies because y'all think it's fine you done with kids i'm snipped oh if i ain't done with kids we getting paid I think I'm done too yo I think I'm done
Starting point is 01:06:46 anyway music where do we start with Benny the Butcher J. Cole please start with that record cause they fucked my mentions up for not talking about this record
Starting point is 01:06:55 on my Twitter when he dropped so please Parks take it away great record I don't know why did they kill you I'm confused because Babyface Ray dropped
Starting point is 01:07:06 and I was like oh shit a new Babyface Ray album nah Ice fuck that J. Cole and Benny dropped I was like okay
Starting point is 01:07:13 sorry sorry J. Cole and Benny I'm all the way with Ice I am all the way with ice Sipping all this drink Make it hard for me to think I am all the way with ice If I ain't have a thing Would you still treat me the same? Gotta charge it to the gang
Starting point is 01:07:32 They will stare me First of all Stupid ass me is in my phone And I think it's me in my music section Looking for a Babyface record But I'm in the iTunes store Typing in Babyface And the first thing that popped up Babyface Babyface record, but I'm in the iTunes store typing in Babyface.
Starting point is 01:07:48 And the first thing that popped up... Babyface. No, no, and the second, and third, and fourth, too. But right underneath it, and right underneath it, right? I'm just telling you my brain, guy brain. Right underneath it was a gentleman by the name of Babyface Ray. I have never heard of Babyface
Starting point is 01:08:04 fucking Ray. Oh, so you thought there was actual baby face record that came out i was in my phone trying to get my my baby face on but but when i was in the itunes store and seeing that somebody had the fucking gall and the audacity to say, fuck Babyface. I'm Babyface Ray. I'm Babyface Ray. I said, nah, buddy. I'm going to listen. Because who the fuck are you? Like, Casanova did that, and now there was no more
Starting point is 01:08:35 Gerald LaVert Casanova. I'm old. Like, these kids have no respect for the old shit. So I go play it, and holy shit, why didn't anybody tell me about babyface ray i've actually played i know you you did all the girls i know that like the thug shit
Starting point is 01:08:52 they did like people said joe i play babyface ray all the time and i said why the fuck am i supposed to know that this is babyface ray yo but i hit play in my bag every time if i was how can i spend so much time in Detroit and that I didn't get the voice not tell me what was going on in the tree get you killed gotta die anyway does get fillers to had to stand in the rain I'm disguised to pay charitie from the game elevator going straight to the penthouse you gon' see the same faces when you coming down I put some money to the side for a big house I told my mama I don't never wanna see you frown
Starting point is 01:09:32 I been spending time alone cause these niggas clowns I ain't got shit to give em I do everything they ask, how am I the villain? I been spending time alone cause these niggas clowns In these hoes hands, I don't ain't got shit to give em I do everything they ask, how am I the villain? Yo, this guy's nice, yo. This guy's sick. This guy's sick. And I thought that it was just this. I didn't even know his album came out.
Starting point is 01:09:58 I'm not hip to it. Then I played some more. Then I played some more. And I said, yo, he kind of is giving me estg vibes and then i said oh shit this guy's got mad songs with estg and then i played dumb shit and when he get off this introspective shit oh it's up for you niggas maybe baby it's up for you this guy's all right yo this guy's all right i'm mad i'm mad i'm mad I'm so mad no he's ill it's
Starting point is 01:10:25 that whole Detroit rap scene bruh they got a bunch of killers over there like the young niggas I'm talking about well
Starting point is 01:10:33 they're not even that young but it don't matter to me see that matters to the labels that don't matter to me I don't care how old you are when you make this old or young
Starting point is 01:10:40 yeah don't matter this is fire right so I'm running around calling people like when you hear good shit you spread the word i say oh baby face baby face y'all this album just dropped here they go here they go nah nah get unfucked with a bull deluxe yep that's the way
Starting point is 01:10:58 that's the record i played the sleeper off of unfuck with a bull wait excuse me yeah unfuck with a bull wait he named some shit unfucked already, the little things get me on, niggas. Yo, wait. You know how bold you gotta be to say un-fuck-with-able? Deluxe. So I bought it. Yeah. Fire to him.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Hell, he's un-fuck-with-able. He's un-fuck-with-able. And all the niggas that I fucking think be running around shooting niggas up, he shoot them too. He with them. They fuck with this nigga. Know what that tells me? Hey!
Starting point is 01:11:30 He unfuck with them. He unfuck with them. Oh, yeah, y'all better not fuck with them. Go ahead, y'all fuck with Babyface Ray. So, shout out to him, man. I'm so sorry I'm late, and I'm mad at the fans for not telling me sooner.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Detroit, what up? Listen, you hear, look. See, I don't get mad at late. Trick, trick somebody, man. Somebody say, this is bad, I don't get mad at late. Trick, trick somebody, man. This is bad. I don't get mad at late. You hear now. That's all that matters to me. Yo, no, I'm joking about late because for me, I love
Starting point is 01:11:54 late because I get to go back. Yeah. I get to go back down the road and pick up that shit you put out in 2014 that's old to niggas you ain't even played it in a while. I'm playing it every day in the morning. Yep. I just heard this. It's new to me. So that did feel that did feel good yo my snow didn't weaken when i got into the music and stopped fucking doing whatever i was doing in the house it's a rough weekend in the house why is that what that you can't leave the house why is it a rough weekend in the house like
Starting point is 01:12:22 niggas is alive niggas is doing well for themselves. Niggas is attractive. Niggas got some women they can call for comfort, if need be. But we wouldn't because we're men, man. Strong independent men. Come on. I'm just saying. We got a lot of good shit going on, man.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Why we announce because it's snowing and it's fucked up? You start getting the itch. It's called horny. No, because you don't even necessarily want box. You just be wanting to go outside and get into some shit. Or you want somebody to come over. Or like what we be doing. We just go out to chill.
Starting point is 01:12:59 You just want somebody to come lay up. Sometimes you just want people to watch. I don't want to talk to nobody when I'm out. I just want to to watch. True. I don't want to talk to nobody when I'm out. I just want to watch y'all. I don't want to have no conversation. Leave me alone. I just want to get out and be around some people. I had a dinner meeting.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Socially distant. It was snowing real bad on Friday. I had a dinner meeting with somebody that worked at Margiela and some other shit trying to get me to do some fashion type shit and just get into fashion. Right? And I'm not fashion man. I'm comfort man. I explained that to him. It's a nice sweater though. Oh, thank you. Thank you very much. And the pants, bitch. And the sneakers and the dollar.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Pants plugged in with the couch. I didn't say two words. The dollar too though. I don't have a dollar. What do I owe? You just said it. Cash after the cup, nigga. But listen, I don't have a dollar what do I owe you just said you just said no no no but two dollar three dollar
Starting point is 01:13:45 cash out the cup nigga but listen as I was out with a guy that I never met yo don't do that Corey you was in DC
Starting point is 01:13:57 while I was out with a guy that I never met crazy I'm learning about him and I got questions about him and it just felt good to fucking talk to somebody that was cool that you never met over a glass
Starting point is 01:14:10 or something and go about your business. Was this a guy from your Instagram? No. No, but I have some more of those if you want me to read them to you. No. You're good though, fam. Not too late. You brought it up.
Starting point is 01:14:22 You brought it up. Here we go. Number one. Yo, you up. Here we go. Number one. Yo, you probably just need some head. Then he said, when it was snowing, you need a real nigga to hold you. You don't want to see him? Look how he talking to me, this shit. You going to let this nigga talk to me like this, yo?
Starting point is 01:14:44 Yes, nigga. He can talk to me however he want you gonna let him you kept it in your DM nah look at this other nigga let me give you alright forget it
Starting point is 01:14:50 but he said ooh with a demon emoji he said let me give you some head Joe I ain't think about it but I thought the offer was sweet
Starting point is 01:15:00 I hate this nigga yo alright it's a considerate nigga Marcus or whoever he is like hey if I was sweet. I hate this nigga. It's a considerate nigga, Marcus, or whoever he is. If I was in the guy head, I might send him back a little something. Hands or no?
Starting point is 01:15:17 Only thing these bitches can take from me is notes. Come on. Let's move on. Whatever. Take it away. I mean, you know, Come on Move on Whatever We got here Parks J-Cole
Starting point is 01:15:25 Whatever Hey Take it away I mean you know This is cool You talking about The Benny J-Cole
Starting point is 01:15:33 Yeah go ahead Yeah come on This is your bag That's a cool record It's cool That's it That's it Nah you gotta say more than that
Starting point is 01:15:40 Nah nah nah They gonna tear your ass up No they gonna tear us up They not gonna tear me up They know I didn't click play. Wait, you want to hear something? Yeah, I want to hear a little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:49 I want to hear a little bit. It's solid. You ain't listening to it? No. You don't want to hear Benny the Butcher and J. Cole? If I hear it somewhere, but I'm not rushing
Starting point is 01:15:57 to go click play on Benny the Butcher and J. Cole. Shout out to Benny the Butcher, friend of the show. That's not a diss. That's ice. No. No.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Hey, alright, alright You know that shit don't feel as good as it look A little bit, a little sauce See what Benny is up to I don't need all this beat man Come on, it's beer use They was right when they told me that rap was business I had ten bands in my stash
Starting point is 01:16:22 When I passed over half a million Come easy, no good Don't be surprised I'll last these niggas It's like they put out a smash then they gone in a flash and mid it And then they make tracks in distance like that's gon' add up the digits They showin' fake racks and pictures like that's gon' attract the bitches That was really mean, nigga, I ain't half that actin' conflicted Only difference is Alright, let me hit goal
Starting point is 01:16:41 Alright Born, the rain was pourin', God was cryin' Turn it off, turn it off, turn it off, nevermind Okay. All right, let me hear Cole. All right. Born to reign with porn. God was crying. Light is struck. Turn it off. Turn it off. Never mind. Cole came in, though.
Starting point is 01:16:51 No, he came in. He came in. He came in. Oh, man. See, this is where it's tough to do a pod, yo. Not bad. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Uh-huh. Nah. Thought you was going to get me out. Nah, yo. Do I do this? Yes. Has Cole smoked him? What'd you say?
Starting point is 01:17:11 Do you think Cole smoked him? I do. Well. I think so, too. I just saved myself. And I like Benny. I didn't hear it. I know I fuck with Benny, but.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Benny's amazing. I only heard the first line from Cole. I think Benny would be happy. If you get a feature like J. Cole, you want him to smoke you on the record. No you don't. You got Benny fucked up. What? You got real rappers fucked up.
Starting point is 01:17:30 But it's his record. He could always re-record the verse. But he didn't. That's what he put out. Which is dope. And that's dope. Not if you alone. And it might be dope
Starting point is 01:17:42 when one of the best rappers in the world hops on the track. And it's dope until he comes on. Now, how does it sound? If I was a rapper, I'm going to take his head off. Yeah, it's like you playing ball.
Starting point is 01:17:56 You're like, yo, I lost the championship, but I lost the mic. Now, this is us just talking shit because like you said, it's Benny. You get cold. It don't matter. You have cold. It don't matter. You have it.
Starting point is 01:18:06 You get a video. You're happy. To me, I think that's new 2022 rapper shit. Not even putting it on Benny. I think late 90s, early 2000s rappers. I don't give a fuck who you are. You jump on this record, I'm trying to kill you. Jada and them wasn't doing that.
Starting point is 01:18:24 No, I think that's just in the person. I don't think that's in the times. Not necessarily this you, but I want to have the hardest verse on this shit. Okay, that's what you sent over. I will rewrite my verse if I have to. See, I think it's corny.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Don't want you to rewrite your shit. Send many niggas to the rewriting. The rewriting book, boy. Check it out. I'm done and I'm laying now now you sit there and listen and hear it
Starting point is 01:18:49 for the next how many hours until you done damn Joe did that up there but listen and that's why I didn't really want to hear it huh
Starting point is 01:18:56 just made me think of a verse we did with somebody we went to sleep he was still up rapping woke up the next morning he was like alright I see what you're doing now nigga and that was my thing i'm laying and i'm not changing yo we didn't even leave when i get up and lay the
Starting point is 01:19:11 verse i'm confident that anybody got hot back but back to this yeah i didn't want to hear this from j cole because i'm gonna i'm listening with rapper ears and rapper brain i love benny i'm glad that he got this look and they together and they rocking. But you can't play with J. Cole like this. You can't do that. I'm surprised he didn't do a third verse, Benny. I'm not. Or that.
Starting point is 01:19:33 I'm not. I am not surprised. I would have came back in with the fucking... Today you're not doing a third verse. You don't need a third verse. They're going to set a record too long. This is not a radio record anyway. I don't matter. If J. Cole is on it, it's a radio record. anyway. I don't matter. If J. Cole is on it, it's a radio record.
Starting point is 01:19:46 This is not a radio record. If J. Cole is on it, it's a radio record, meaning it will be played on radio, maybe not heavy or medium rotation, but you'll hear this in a mixed show somewhere. Somewhere. It's a playlist record, man. It's not a radio.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Or that. But that's it. When you get a feature like j cole who appeals to whatever it is everybody you're hoping that it's played on all mediums hey okay if i hear this beat as a rapper and you tell me benny and cole are getting on this beat cole is coming out the victor before i hear word before i hear word this beat is set up for j cole to give you all of the i did not even hear this to just flow his little heart out and the guy's good with words so benny's just kind of normal comfortable pocket flow i'm saying that not as an insult every rapper has one j cole has one too but when you stay there
Starting point is 01:20:47 for your verse and then a magician comes in with something that you didn't necessarily hear there it's like oh okay it just creates a little bit of separation different how kobe get the fade away off than how some of these other niggas might have got the fadeaway off. That little footwork and whatever he did, oh, shit. That took some practice. You could listen to Cole and hear that, you hear why niggas
Starting point is 01:21:12 don't call him. You put his 10,000 hours in. You could hear it. Yeah, you could hear it. Yo, can I get 100,000 hours? Can I get some Nodal Edge real quick?
Starting point is 01:21:19 Oh, man. Real fast, real fast. It's going to be quick. I tried to skip it on my Benny take. It's going to be quick. I love Benny skip it on my Benny take. It's going to be quick. I love Benny. Nice thing I didn't do with Benny.
Starting point is 01:21:28 The same really on the layups. Oh, some little medium ledge. Yeah, a little medium. It's like first floor balcony. Yeah, yeah. Two plank. I got enough to go around. And the thought takes place uptown.
Starting point is 01:21:36 I grew up on the sidewalk while I was street talking. They talk to all New York. I go to Queens from Queens to get the food from Brooklyn. Make money in Manhattan and never been to Tokyo. I go to Queens from Queens to get the food from Brooklyn. Make money in Manhattan and never been to Tokyo. I go to Queens from Queens to get the food from Brooklyn. Make money in Manhattan and never been to Tokyo.
Starting point is 01:21:44 I go to Queens from Queens to get the food from Brooklyn. Make money in Manhattan and never been to Tokyo. I go to Queens from Queens to get the food from Brooklyn. Make money in Manhattan and never been to Tokyo While I was street talking They talk to all New Yorkers I go to Queens from Queens To get the food from Brooklyn Make money in Manhattan They never been talking I grew up town at a bar So boogie down to Strongwater It's too much allurge
Starting point is 01:21:53 It's too much allurge Go Hey man We gotta stop Everybody J. Cole's the best rapper alive Period Put a period after it
Starting point is 01:22:03 Enough I know we hold kendrick high kendrick you've been going you're funny my man just text me and in your absence this nigga has passed you and somebody has to say it and i know the superbowl is coming up i know the halftime show is coming up i've been hearing some things kendricky fam cole ain't took off so you have to catch back why do we have to do that in like our profession you know like we have to compare put people against each other well it's not it's because we have that hierarchy but we doing that you doing that ice this is your take even after cole came out and
Starting point is 01:22:42 said those are my brothers there's no competition we're peers blah blah blah you don't care about that right that was a cool answer Cole also said I'm trying to be the greatest rapper ever before it's over so your list is now
Starting point is 01:22:51 Cole 1 Cole's 1 who's 2 I only be caring about 1 it don't matter to be honest with you you said what I only be caring about 1
Starting point is 01:23:01 when I do those lists Cole is 1 I don't think there's a bunch of people Cole is one. I don't think there's a bunch of people out there that would... I don't think it's a hot seat. No, that's what I said. While I told y'all,
Starting point is 01:23:10 it's not ledge, ledge. It's little first floor ledge, but it had to be set. Low fire, keep the food hot. It's done, but just let it sit there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a simmer. Yeah, it's a simmer.
Starting point is 01:23:20 It's not hot. I do not think that J. Cole is the best rapper in the world, but he's on the short list. Yeah. It's Cole. It's Cole. What you got to say?
Starting point is 01:23:35 Go ahead. I don't like Ice's reasoning. Because Kendrick's been quiet, it's Cole? Benny's the best rapper on the song until Cole comes on. Okay. That same thing exists for all rappers, maybe Sans, Hove, and maybe whoever, but Hove could get caught in a bad day too.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Scarface really, go listen to Guess Who's Bizarre again. Like Jay is Jay, so he did what he had to do, but other things can make your verse a standout, like voice, one line. Whatever you did on Stay Scheming, if you were in the studio as a rapper trying to participate, you was listening to Drake's whole verse and your heart was cool until he said, you wasn't with me shooting in the... Oh.
Starting point is 01:24:20 The end. Nothing you could do as a rapper there. That's just perfect structure. I think that nigga flow, how he came on, all that shit was... No, but just the stanza of... Call me Monday, day, day, day, day, day. Bitch, you want to... The whole club now.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Whole club now. Ross heard that shit, let me go at her. That was perfect. I think that that could exist for Cole. And you said it, you know Kendrick is coming. Super Bowl. The performance. It's not just Kendrick.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Now I'm up there with history. Snoop. Dre. No, not the Titans. My brothers. I come from this camp of greatness. They was right in 91. They was right in.
Starting point is 01:25:00 97. They was right in. They've just been right. 52 or 03. They've been right and I'm here now I think it's gonna look different
Starting point is 01:25:08 it's gonna sound different and I think Kendrick is quiet cause it's his job to come back different crazy and I think he's heard all the Cole shit
Starting point is 01:25:16 he know what Cole is doing Cole been shaking ass out here and that's and that's kinda my point though when when it was
Starting point is 01:25:24 before you had people leaning either way. You know, even back then, there was, yo, Kendrick, it was Cole. There was a conversation. Kendrick, Cole, Drake. We know that. That was the combo. But that combo is going to always exist like Biggie, Jay-Z, and Nas.
Starting point is 01:25:37 True. I agree. Well, I don't agree with that conversation anyway. But Biggie, Jay-Z, and Nas? I agree with the three. There's three. But you wasn't old enough or outside enough
Starting point is 01:25:46 to go through that. Then how old was you when that line came out of Biggie, Jay-Z, and Nas? What year was that? That's volume one. That's volume one. 97.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Volume one is 97. How old was you in 97? 13. And who would you have had in 97? No, no, no. I'm not saying, I'm saying Hov
Starting point is 01:26:01 has passed all of that and became number one. Oh, yes. And that's kind of what I'm saying Hove has passed all of that and became number one. Oh, yes. And that's kind of what I'm saying. About Cole. About Cole. Is for other reasons. I don't think he's pulled away like that.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Bam. I'm not mad at anybody that says he did. Right this second, he's number one. I don't see how this could really. And that's what I'm not saying. He can't get passed again. But music is musical chairs. It is.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Yes. I'm not saying this is permanent. It's over. He's number one. But if I reach number one and I keep producing at number one, niggas, y'all got to catch up at that point. We're not equal. He's in a different bag from even his great bag.
Starting point is 01:26:35 And it's been that way for a little while. Might have been a few years ago where the little feature verse run was going. Before he was coming, we didn't know. And Ice was like, yo, this guy's going crazy it's been years non-stop now of that it's up a level for even him and i hate that like i hate a bad rap on this pod they say we hate nas they say we hate cole there's a few people they say we hate maybe i understand why and i'll try to be better with that the things i say don't come from a to just come from observation and experience and just sharing my own brain but Cole is different I just feel like I just feel like it's a slight to him when you keep
Starting point is 01:27:11 saying the nigga who hasn't not the nigga but the rapper who hasn't been here in years he dropped that one verse I'm smoking on your top five tonight and everybody jumped right back out yeah Kendrick's the best like fam compare that to everything i've done over the last four or five years you've got no argument for me are you crazy that don't match up to this look at my look at i have an just a track record they're alone you i've passed you cole can say what he want he can give you the pc media correct answer that those my brothers there's no competition let me give you a little pushback and you know this ain't my bag
Starting point is 01:27:45 I'm gonna give him some pushback too okay but just because I ain't come out that mean you surpassed me if I kept going Kendrick still has
Starting point is 01:27:52 a better discography though and that's what I was gonna resist with you could be busting ass for five years six seven years while I'm quiet
Starting point is 01:28:00 if I'm quiet and the last two three joints I did was that Michael Jordan took a layoff like Akeem and him
Starting point is 01:28:08 got some rings his last album was still Kendrick's last album yo I'm not here to unpack the greats yeah we're not but
Starting point is 01:28:15 I'm just saying right now J. Cole is the best rapper I'm not mad at that I'm not mad at that that's it and a lot of people
Starting point is 01:28:21 won't give him that because they're still holding him up to someone who to me he's passed right now. But you get what I'm saying, though? Like, the Michael Jordan analogy is like, Jordan took a layoff. All right, Akeem, go ahead and get your two rings.
Starting point is 01:28:33 I'll be back. Okay, so in that two-ring span, Akeem could have been the best. Akeem Olajuwon didn't surpass Michael Jordan, though. He was just the best in the NBA at that time. He didn't surpass Michael Jordan. Akeem Olajuwon wasn't, prior to him leaving, mentioned right there in the conversation as which one of these are the best in the NBA at that time. He didn't surpass Mike Jordan. Akeem Olajuwon wasn't, prior to him leaving, mentioned right there in the conversation as which one of these are the best. That's where it's different.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Prior to Kendrick taking his sabbatical, it was still mentioned Kendrick and Cole, Kendrick and Cole, Kendrick and Cole, Kendrick and Cole. Now I want to leave, and I keep performing, keep producing at a high level. All of this, the album's been great. Everything's been great everything's been great features been great i'm on a tear he's on the the reason that they get to skate uh cole drake and kendrick in a way that biggie jay-z and naz did not to me anyway biggie jay-z and naz were kind of all street-oriented New York. Like, they kind of gave you the same thing. Nas, Queen.
Starting point is 01:29:26 Contemp was very similar. Big. Yeah. Not so much with these three now. They're the megastars. They could always, and they are different. They're so different that they don't even have to, them playing into the whole who's better between us
Starting point is 01:29:40 is just them playing into it. They're so different that we don't ever have to be in each other lanes at all when we get there it's by choice cause one of us is fucking the same girl but which is why and even that which is why I believe at times when they were on the same record you know I always go back
Starting point is 01:29:58 to the American Dream record that Jeezy had featured Kendrick and Cole when the title came out everybody was like finally we get these two going at it on the record we get to settle this featured Kendrick and Cole. When the title came out, everybody was like, finally, we get these two going at it on the record. We get to settle this debate once and for all. And Cole kicked ass
Starting point is 01:30:11 on that record. And Kendrick, traveling man, sung his way out of there. To me, that said something. To me, that said something. That say, I might not really
Starting point is 01:30:21 want to give you all that. I don't want it to be a debate. I don't know. I'm not going to do it on this record. I don't want it to be a debate. I don't know. I'm not going to do it on this record. Kendrick did run from the smoke on that record. In my opinion. He was supposed to teach. He was supposed to.
Starting point is 01:30:33 He was supposed to teach Jermaine something. He did not. I'm getting off of this. He might try to teach me something. I'm out. I'm out. I'm cool. But yeah, that's it for me.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Cam, freestyle. Funk flex. I saw it. I saw it. Did you listen to it? I. Cam, freestyle, funk flex. I saw it. I saw it. Did you listen to it? I did. I did. I did.
Starting point is 01:30:50 And Cam is in my all-time top rappers ever list. No, I'm not doing that. Oh. I'm not. When you start with praise, I think that we're ending with this. When I first saw the clip go out, I was like, yes, finally. This is one I wanted to sit down. I got like four rappers I want to sit down on Flex.
Starting point is 01:31:11 I wanted her in the back, but the Dior had to sit down. Yeah. You were saying? Oh, yeah. This ain't give me what I wanted from Cam. this ain't give me what I wanted from Cam and I love the nigga in the back smoking a blunt
Starting point is 01:31:29 while you're rapping the little things for me look that's all you know Cam will give you all like the extra shit yeah the extra shit this is not
Starting point is 01:31:38 Cam on the basement rapping counting money with just a classic verse this ain't that I felt underwhelmed for him to be one of the ones i couldn't wait to sit down with flex i didn't hate it yo i didn't hate i didn't love it i don't expect much from cam at this stage of his career as far as like a freestyle you know i'm saying in 98 i might feel like very underwhelmed in 2003 i might feel very underwhelmed in 2022 i was entertained man it was cool
Starting point is 01:32:06 i feel like it's cam though and he know what it means sitting there in hip-hop you know things can't just be cool yeah i know i know that's why i say it's either super hot or trash i got a high i got a high bar for cam like i said this is one of my favorite rappers so and i know what he meant to the freestyle fans are funny with that like you have a high bar for cam right parks brought up cam is in year 20 whatever of his career your bar is still as high as when it was horse and carriage and oh boy i don't think that's fair to kid or dip set no but if you like i don't think that's fair either we gotta let no no no no age a little bit hold up no no no because i also want to say he went up there and Flex tried to intro him.
Starting point is 01:32:47 He said, nah, fuck that shit. Cut him. Yeah, like I'm down for 10 minutes straight. I give a lot of respect for him just doing his thing. I'm thinking even that. When you come up here and say, nah, I ain't here for that. Go Google that. Let's get it.
Starting point is 01:32:57 You about to smoke this shit. Cam's last album, Purple Haze 2, was a great fucking Cam album there's no problem so he got it he can do that I'm just from what Cam has always given me
Starting point is 01:33:11 as a huge Cam fan this is the only person that I complained about when I got blocked on Twitter I'm like yo now
Starting point is 01:33:19 yeah Cam blocked me but he did it at a solidarity with the brothers but I was just like yo nah y'all gotta get him to unblock me like not him so and he did south of camp but i was underwhelmed because i expect a lot from cam see i didn't have much expectations i know he still could do it he just
Starting point is 01:33:38 did it on the album yeah but even when he did on the album it wasn't necessarily like uh like all right when someone sits down to flex you want like crazy punch lines and depending on who they are for the most part that's what you want who is that down there that we have praised that was you know what this day you know what he did here he sat down this is a song that could have been on his next album if he's working on a project most of these most like i know i know that song but i'm talking about some write this specifically for coming up to Flex. I know that. I've talked to a lot of these dudes. It still could have been a song.
Starting point is 01:34:10 I could have pulled from this verse and that verse. I took my hardest bars, put them together, but I presented this solely because I knew I was coming to Flex. This just falls short for what I expect Cam to do. What I'll say is this. It's cool. It just wasn't Cam. Our good friend Sue Surf
Starting point is 01:34:29 is running something called March Madness. Midnight Madness. I mean, my bad. Midnight Madness. Where all money is on the wood. Winner take all. All battle rappers coming now. We're going to see what's what. This ain't that smack shit. Even though it might be smack related. But it ain't that. It's a different thing. We're going to see what's what. This ain't that smack shit, even though it might be smack related.
Starting point is 01:34:46 But it ain't that. It's a different thing. I would love to see that for the rappers. Just show up and rap? Like a Mark Midnight Madness. What can I get? Everybody throw 10 grand in them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:00 They're not going to do that. Yeah, throw 10, 20 grand. Bring your best verse. Nope. And let's do that bring whatever verse you was about to spit at flex to here who votes how many bars i don't know i'm just saying i would like it's not flush i just would like i just would like to see that you won't because to ice's point like i hear what he's saying cam has always been super nice to a bunch
Starting point is 01:35:20 of people and i'm with you today i don't think he should be held in that same regard as he ages. I don't think it's fair. And that was my thing. It's like, all right, you up here and you freestyle, but he's promoting
Starting point is 01:35:31 this shit. Of course. Cam is a walking promoter. So it's like, that answers my question as to why he's here. I didn't know
Starting point is 01:35:37 if an album was coming. He's promoting some shit. I'm sure Flex has been asking him to come up there for a long time. Of course, of course. And it's Cam,
Starting point is 01:35:43 it's Dipset, it's Harlem Week. It's Harlem Week. It's Harlem Week. So I'm not going to get on. I like that, y'all. I'm sorry. It's not something I'm going to go back to. It wasn't any moments where I was like, yo, I got to rewind and catch that bar again. But Cam has not been that rapper for me for 20 years. It's been a long
Starting point is 01:35:58 time since he's done. When's the last time you saw Cam sit down and freestyle somewhere? Damn near 20 years ago, too. So when he pop out, the dude that you so when he pop out the dude that you know when he pop out he give you one yeah i'm expecting one i don't care if it's been 20 years it's just that that's kind of what when i when i first saw it i was like yo let's go then i watched it i was like all right that was cool you still got it you could rap but you didn't give me the cam that i knew that will come up here and do some even the way you
Starting point is 01:36:25 talking flex I know you've been trying to get me here like you you amping me up nah now I won't talk about none of that man cut the beat on yo yo tat cut the beat on all of that is like oh yeah we can already get the cam that I've been waiting for because I see all the computers puting jokes and all of that and that was only two or three songs he used that type of flow with the little elementary shit but people hang on to that so I see all of that i'm like he about to shut y'all up all right so you would have liked to see i want him to smoke this shit he rapped for 10 minutes it's not about the time limit or stumbling or anything like no punches like you can't they've done that all right all right i'm saying i feel what he's saying i feel what he's saying i do feel what you're saying but No punches. Like, you can't. Fam, they've done that. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:37:06 I'm telling you, I feel what he's saying. I feel what he's saying. I do feel what you're saying, but I guess I just had lower expectations going into it. See, I have very high for my favorites. And I'm a huge Cam fan. I have very high for my favorites. But I didn't sit there. I wasn't like, ooh, Cam's about to come up here and fucking be in the Royce and Black Dot conversation.
Starting point is 01:37:20 No, no, no. I would. I would. I didn't expect him to be in the uh tyler conversation either all right opposite ends of dope check it out check it out if you see a video tomorrow and flex is sitting down with jay to kiss to freestyle uh-huh you're expecting something from that off the rip i am but jay to kiss has maintained a level of like being the punchline technical expert that Cam has long been away from. If I see Fab sit
Starting point is 01:37:48 down with Flex tomorrow without hearing a bar to beat anything, I'm expecting something Fab level. I don't care how long you can rap without, I'm expecting there's an expectation there. Like I said, I got a list of rappers
Starting point is 01:38:04 I want to see sit up here. I tell, every time I talk to Joel, go to Flex, please. Please, I'm begging you, go to Flex. Joel's in love, man. I know, I know. You know how hard it is to leave the bed with the woman that you love.
Starting point is 01:38:18 He is in love, love, love. And go be a killer. Every time, I text him all the time, yo, yo, yo, you ready to do Flex yet? Stop playing with me. Freddie Gibbs. Go sit, sit like it's certain rappers that i know if i see them sitting there i'm what i'm gonna get i want to hear all of them because everybody's different like i love tyler when he did it he trolled but that's expected to me but it was fire to me and if i just see him sit down with it next
Starting point is 01:38:43 to flex i know i'm not going i'm not going into that thinking i'm gonna enjoy it as much as i did there's a few people that because for me it ain't but about seven of you niggas that i get excited for when y'all sit down on this freestyle shit the rest of y'all most of y'all are horrible facts to me facts to me most of y'all are absolute garbage when it comes to this not music not music i'm talking about sitting down and freestyling your words wordplay yeah your words what they mean what you're saying here and i'm gonna tell you something else and i'm probably gonna get in trouble for saying this but i just got in trouble saying everybody's trash but go ahead i'm getting ready to tell you who's trying them videos them videos y'all see those be multiple multiple
Starting point is 01:39:29 multiple takes if y'all don't know that out there we're talking about the flex for yourself yes you can tell well a lot of the average person cannot tell the trade i can tell and i know that because the first time i took my brother up there and he rapped when were done, one of the producers was like, yo, Ars did that shit in one take. I'm like, yeah. Yo, you know how many people come up here
Starting point is 01:39:51 and, oh no, I'll run it back, I fucked up. Yo, bring it back, yo, bring it back.
Starting point is 01:39:54 Like, we sit here for hours with some of these rappers. I'm like, I hate to be the pair of bad news, but the Cyphers be the same shit. the Cyphers same shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:03 Yo, I'm a legend, yo. Yeah, you one take two joints. Yeah. On my flex shit yeah yo I'm a legend yo yeah you want to take two joints yeah on my flex
Starting point is 01:40:08 freestyle I'm not talking about me I went in there gave him something slipped up toward the end and you keep pick it back up nah don't start this over
Starting point is 01:40:15 don't cam that yeah you just get back yeah I remember you fucking up and it being out too I remember that being on there huh you stumbled
Starting point is 01:40:22 yeah leave the stumble I think it's fly when you pick it back up because it shows. It shows something. So I enjoy that. But my thing is, I'm just saying that because, like, we did this before Flex Freestyle was Flex Freestyle. True.
Starting point is 01:40:38 Nobody, he was trying to build the platform. There was only a couple people that did it. Yeah, I think I might have been the seventh dude or some shit like that. By the time surf started going and it was the rappers caught on and was like
Starting point is 01:40:48 oh we can rap there alright watch this by the time Royce got there this was a platform and Royce went up there to let y'all know nobody in the world
Starting point is 01:40:58 is fucking with me I was going up there just to get my I was like oh nah I might need to come back to this same with the cyphers we was early well maybe kissing them was the real early up there just to get my... I was like, oh, no, I might need to come back to this. Same with the Cyphers. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:41:06 We was early. Well, maybe kissing them was the real early, but when 2010-11 came, we was a little early. No, you were early. So now it's like... First two or three years. No, you talking about...
Starting point is 01:41:16 The Cyphers. The Cyphers. Which one, though? I did it a bunch of times. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. His first one was early. My first one. Your first one was early.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Your first one was, what, 2010? 2009? But I'm just saying, we had to set the bar. His first one was early. My first one was early. Yours was in the first two or three years. 2010? 2009? But I'm just saying, we had to set the bar. We had to set the bar, and then we had to wait for evolution for the new rappers to say, hey, we don't do that anymore. Yeah, we're not doing the breakbeats. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Big production say. It used to just be like some rooftop shit. Yeah, we coming in here swaggy, saucy, flowy, jewelry, and let the label do the rest but remember we was at the compound I think this might have been the debut of Big Sean for me
Starting point is 01:41:53 when they did the good music cypher and he went crazy and then they had another click, it was the TDE fam, anything where rappers get to get in that bag uh the basement like we don't have enough of those i fuck with all those i-95 i said we got i-95 free style la leakers la leakers that's la leakers to me right now uh big boys sometimes
Starting point is 01:42:19 i have somebody get into some shit but even la leakersA. Leakers, yo. Yeah, Sway has more up and, Sway and K-Slay have more up and coming rappers doing live freestyle still. Mm-hmm, yeah. No, that's true. It's awesome. Speaking of up and coming
Starting point is 01:42:35 rappers and freestyles, that Yo Gotti challenge is taking off. I want to applaud him again. Genius. Yeah, that was the one. Genius. I saw it.
Starting point is 01:42:42 Genius. Oh, the bars. You can get a record. You can get on the record with him, basically. He got niggas in jail doing it. He got nigg Oh, the bars. You can get a record. You can get a record. He got niggas in jail doing it. He got niggas in the army, military doing it. Up and coming rappers. Dibiase did it.
Starting point is 01:42:53 Oh, I didn't see Dibis. Okay. I think Dibiase did it. Somebody I know did it. I might be fucking it up. Shout out to Dibiase. But somebody I know from Jury. Like, people are doing it.
Starting point is 01:43:01 So I just want to applaud a great idea and executing it. Because, wow. is there any oh we want to send our well wishes and love to our dj mustard i just saw that you don't have to go to it he was in a horrible accident with a drunk driver escalade smashed up against the wall so i fucked up brand new had a bike in the trunk left with just minor bruises god is good and continue prayers for K Slade by the way Pat was just on Breakfast Club and said he's still fighting so
Starting point is 01:43:27 continue prayers yeah we hope K Slade is alright we love you we love you man be strong please uh LMA
Starting point is 01:43:35 LMA is back yo nah I ain't gonna do it man but the girls are back go back up please um single or album? single don't fuck me up which means album is coming came on oh no it's hard it was hard see this is why i had to throw that
Starting point is 01:43:59 amber marks on because it was r&b that came out over the weekend that'll have you crying in the fetal position in the bed. It's hard. It is mustard. I was curious if it was going to be mustard still. Oh, producing? Yeah. Don't fuck me up, don't let me down. Hey, that made a little wintertime vibe out there.
Starting point is 01:44:37 You talking warren with my heart. That's such a scary part when she realizes that she likes you and you do have the power to fuck her up. But she's at your mercy asking you not to. Chill, Ish. Don't jump in. I got it. Be gentle with me. That's what they say.
Starting point is 01:44:51 Be gentle with me. Yeah. Don't worry. I know we can't expound. Then you try to protect them like, yo, shorty, you don't want none of this, man. And then they don't like the protection. This will fuck your whole world up Say what you want
Starting point is 01:45:05 Then they chase you So they can get fucked up So they can get it And then be mad at you Cause you fucked nothing up And then if they find out You got good dick They'll just fucking poke at you
Starting point is 01:45:13 To get you angry So you can have Great makeup sex Women are fucking evil Evil Yo keep playing I'm gonna learn you this week Okay daddy
Starting point is 01:45:22 You ain't gonna do shit You ain't gonna do shit No you're not Shut up You ain't going to do shit. You ain't going to do shit. No, you're not. Shut up. You ain't going to do shit. Oh, women are great, yo. Shout out to Ella Mai.
Starting point is 01:45:33 A lot of R&B came out. A lot of R&B came out. I didn't really leave Amber Marks, Pink Moon, Pink Sweats. Crazy. Quick little project. Not enough drums for me, but I still loved it all. I loved it all. Shout out to Pink Sweats. A lot of music. A lot of music. What else drums for me, but I still loved it all. I loved it all. Shout out to Pink Sweats.
Starting point is 01:45:46 A lot of music. A lot of music. What else? Let me just look here. Anything else? Well, and more in my realm, Doughboy put out a project. I fuck with Doughboy. See?
Starting point is 01:45:57 Okay. See? No, no, no. I don't hear that. I don't be knowing, yo, because you a R&B dude. I didn't think you would. That ain't your bag. What are we in? We in February. Y'all about, damn, y'all because you an R&B dude. I didn't think you would. That ain't your bag. What are we in? We in February.
Starting point is 01:46:06 Y'all about, damn, y'all about two months from a year. Holy shit. Shit. Yeah. Damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:15 That fucking fluke. Yeah, y'all about two months from a year. And since you have been here, I got to give you props. You've kind of converted. I'm a little more Southern than I used to be. I am. You four, two duggies? They just got to give you props. You've kind of converted. I'm a little more Southern than I used to be.
Starting point is 01:46:26 I am. You 4'2", Doug? They just got to be. Yeah, I fuck with Doug. Thank you. I got a short list of the niggas. Like, Doug, Fabio, man, try not to read the internet about my guy. No, I don't want to read none of that shit.
Starting point is 01:46:39 Yeah, no. I'm good. Fuck y'all. Y'all trying to make me hate? No, no, no. I will not read none of that until the Fabio Down Bottom song comes out. That's it. After that, then you can read the shit.
Starting point is 01:46:52 And I told y'all about a year ago what that's going to sound like when this young man, when this outstanding young man is on this. Oh, my God. Yo. Oh, just stay home Don't go outside. Don't hit a club. Wait, is that something that exists or that's something you nice coming? Okay, it does you hear some of it you sent it. Yes. Oh, okay Are you fucking kidding me what Fabio was doing to this beat? Just imagine it
Starting point is 01:47:24 Drilled he did some drills yeah now yo you know why it's so crazy cuz the kids don't really know what this did Shout out to Drag, yo. I miss you. I love you, yo. 2022, Joe. I'm on love, peace for the niggas that I fuck with. What?
Starting point is 01:47:57 Oh, baby. That also dropped. Nah, they trying to turn me to a monster, yo. They trying, hey. ESTG dropped. Nah, they trying to turn me to a monster, yo. They trying, hey. ESTG dropped. Hey, the devil works hard, but ESTG works harder, bitch. Another dollar. I got it. I got it coming.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Two for the cup. Yeah, no, no, I'm at four. I'm at four. I'm going to come in tomorrow and just make it rain on the cup like that. Yo, ESTG, my guy, my brother turned black in three months. Who hotter than G? Uh-oh. No ESTG my god my brother turned black is three months who had it in G Wow. Yo, please turn this off. Yo, please turn this off. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 01:48:55 Please turn this off, yo. I had to get out a little bit. Please, yo. Please, yo. What is he doing right now? What is happening? What is wrong with these niggas, Alex? They ain't even wait till it get warm to start this shit up.
Starting point is 01:49:07 Well, they did it right. Because you got to drop it in February if you want it to be popping around spring break-ish or whatever is coming. I don't want to be outside. Memorial Day weekend. You don't want to be outside with that? No, them. Niggas want to be in the studio. It's nice and safe.
Starting point is 01:49:22 And I'm going to just keep pushing product, getting paid. Niggas want to be outside outside you hear all them niggas in studio rats yeah they said all them niggas live in the studio I didn't know this drop OG Parker and Party Next Door
Starting point is 01:49:34 is this good? it's alright bro I'll check it out I have nothing to say about it I haven't heard it I didn't even know it came out what else? listen to new music man
Starting point is 01:49:42 cause we missed a lot so this is your bag? oh shit What else is in new music, man? Because we missed a lot, so... This is your bag? Oh, shit. I'll fuck with her. Nah. I don't know nothing about her. Sinead Arnott.
Starting point is 01:49:52 Ready is always too late. Oh, God. Oh, I'm never... What the fuck are you trying to... No. No, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, and I'm going to assume that your album title and the songs are cohesive.
Starting point is 01:50:06 Ready. That's the same cover. It's a deluxe, I think. Gotta be. Yeah, it says deluxe. Oh, okay. Oh, so I did hear this thing. Yeah, it's heard of.
Starting point is 01:50:14 Are there new songs? How many? I was going to say, how many new songs? I played one of them as a sleeper. I forgot which one it was. Ross dropped a deluxe. Ready is always...
Starting point is 01:50:22 Yo, Ice, stop, yo. Stop it. Because you keep telling us. You said deluxe. You keep telling us. I said Sinead Harnett deluxe ready as always your ice stop yo stop it cause you keep telling us you said deluxe you keep telling us I said Sinead Harnett deluxe and some reason every other day
Starting point is 01:50:31 you keep reminding me that Ross dropped the deluxe why why you telling me yo it's out I just wanna let you know I like some of them Ross songs yo
Starting point is 01:50:39 I do I went back I like some of them I gave the album another listen to yesterday and I was like let me just see if it changed. It's a couple.
Starting point is 01:50:48 I'm not even so angry at that Wiggle It record like I was when it came out. I'm not as angry at it as I used to be. I fuck with Ross. Y'all like Ross? I do. I do. I'm upset at that record. Was it one of his better albums?
Starting point is 01:51:01 Probably not. Actually, no. It wasn't. But he's great enough to drop a solid album as he age i just think that hip-hop we fuck people up we don't fuck with people correctly as they age because they're not producing the way that they once did but we got it already yo teflon don none of the other rappers in the world have given it to me since him correct true i'm at peace now how do you all right so that puts true i'm at peace now how do you all right so that puts us like that puts you that puts me at a crossroads on one hand you've set this bar
Starting point is 01:51:32 for yourself like when i compare a rapper i only compare them to their discography i'm not saying yo your album is he's rapping way better than you over here on this but i don't do that. So you've set a bar. You were known for having fire albums. Did I set a bar or did you set a bar? You set the bar because you put that out. Okay, go ahead. But once I put it out, it's not mine. Correct. But you listened to that, sequenced that,
Starting point is 01:51:57 and said, I'm giving, this is the product. If you're a chef and you make a meal and you put your name behind that meal and serve it to me, you set the bar if that meal is amazing. I love your example. Let's stay there. Chefs are chefs.
Starting point is 01:52:11 So they know certain shit about chefing. I've seen chefs bring me the tiniest of bullshit plates while I was starving and said, what the fuck is this? And they laughed and looked at me like a heathen. It's a plate. It's a correct plate. You ghetto fucking poor ass nigga this is how a plate you should only have this much of the side this is how you and i'm like oh okay now that don't mean i had to love the plate that's on me now and i like your example it's the same thing ross or artists design shit sequence it and make it to their liking
Starting point is 01:52:46 and craft it that way but once I give it away I have the game is over I don't like the analogy I don't either because I don't like the chef analogy
Starting point is 01:52:54 period because when you cook something you can mimic that it's how recipes it's how recipes get made you put a quarter of this you put a teaspoon of that.
Starting point is 01:53:05 When you're doing music or you're doing something artistically, it's not going to always be the same. If you go to a restaurant, nine times out of ten, the spaghetti is going to be the same if it's the same chef making it or close to the same. When you're doing art or you're an artist, you can't always recreate the same exact feeling that you created on your first project. You've grown as an artist. I liked the chef example because both food and music are subjective. The person creating it could feel like it's the best or worst thing in the world. And they're also subject to current emotion. That too.
Starting point is 01:53:39 But again, the spaghetti one day may have been hitting because you were starving, and the next day... But the spaghetti, if the same chef is making it, he has a recipe that he uses. Yeah. And musicians do the same shit. It's going to resemble it. You can't. But I think it's selfish of a fan. I got Teflon Don, and I should get something like this again.
Starting point is 01:53:58 Nah. Ten years later. Say it's who. And that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm not saying I should get something like Teflon Don. No, not something like that. I'm just saying that. The bar is there.
Starting point is 01:54:09 Because look. What's the album? Deeper Than Rap don't sound like Teflon Don. They're similar, though. Nah, not really. Deeper Than Rap. Teflon Don was the introduction to Trap Ross, where he started the hard beats. But there was only two or three records like that on there.
Starting point is 01:54:24 Those were the biggest records on the album too he had it was a different his flow changed he slowed his flow down it was a big night and day difference
Starting point is 01:54:32 from Deepin' and Rap to Teflon Don and both of them to me Deepin' and Rap is his best project to a lot of people they agree with that
Starting point is 01:54:40 but what I'm saying is you can give me two totally different projects and they still be great so it's not like i'm like you gave me the exact same thing yeah but like but no life does life does change extension of deeper than rap it was i totally disagree with that yeah but i'm yeah i'll leave that part but what i'm saying is you can give me a project way over here and it's amazing you can give me a project way over here it's amazing life does change so my heart might not be in the music anymore because i'm i got so much other shit going there you go it's gonna reflect in the let me ask you this let me ask
Starting point is 01:55:15 you this what's up the bar is an axe best album or worst album i think the bar is an average you can't say that then if you say you set the bar up here. But if your first seven albums are damn near sevens and up. He lost me. He lost me with that one. For me, it's like,
Starting point is 01:55:35 for me to go back to the chef analogy, if you make great spaghetti and I go back and get the linguine and it's still pretty good, I'm not going to kill you. You know what I'm saying? If Ross would have went and did some completely, if he made a whole album full of wiggles,
Starting point is 01:55:49 I could see why you might be like, all right, dog. But he didn't. It sounded like a Ross album. Was it his most prolific words? Maybe not, but it's still a solid album. And that's why I don't like Ice's bar, because if your bar is average.
Starting point is 01:56:04 I'm saying of your average of your work of your work so if you gave me seven and i gave me seven albums and they all were i don't know how many problems just example you gave me seven albums and six of them albums are eights are up so that's just throwing i'm just throwing a number out there and then you come with the so i'm expecting you to be in that range because this is what you do when you drop an album so yeah if you come back with a five not saying that's the case but if you come back with a five or something or four or something a little lower i'm just gonna say yo this is below the standard you set on projects to me even though i have mad wing stops and movies shooting them yeah there's nothing wrong again when i say these artists are not making the same music
Starting point is 01:56:51 you i get it you are way beyond music i understand that at this point music is just something to do your heart not in it the same way but that's my point that's on fans to deal with the loss yeah and so i don't have to I choose to not look at it like a loss I choose to be grateful for the brighter parts of a career
Starting point is 01:57:12 and that's why I gave Nas his props because he don't have to create music and that's what I said he don't gotta create music now hold on he created three albums
Starting point is 01:57:19 in a year stay right there I'm gonna stay there too and that's why Pac holds a special place in my heart because he been dead and gone
Starting point is 01:57:26 for ages Machiavelli's still Machiavelli me against the world is still me against the world and all eyes on me is still all eyes on me y'all could two Pacalypse
Starting point is 01:57:34 now me to death I'm with y'all I'm cool I'm cool I understand that but them three but hold on to what you said
Starting point is 01:57:41 Nas don't have to rap at all ever he just gave us three projects not just three projects passion projects but look at the quality of the projects that he put out naz had a dip every rapper has a dip and for him to be in year 30 or whatever year this is don't have to wrap a million businesses i'm all the way up i'm doing this shit because i feel like i'm triggered so because the dip yo no i'm not fam just listen
Starting point is 01:58:12 to what i'm saying because compare nas to that ross argument a million businesses i don't have to do this but i gave you an amazing body of work still. That came after what? Another amazing body of work and another one. No, no, no. Stop it. And this is where the fans think that I be shitting on Nas, and I do not. That Kanye album was trash. All indications led to it's trash.
Starting point is 01:58:40 It was unhappy in the picture in the project. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It wasn't a perfect marriage with production and lyrics. But all of us going into it said it's naz and kanye wow how can it be bad as an artist when it's bad you would go focus different you're right you make sure oh let me get with the person i'm comfortable with get back in my pocket and produce something that is more along the lines of what my body is and then we got three amazing projects. I loved those Ross albums before this last one.
Starting point is 01:59:08 Like, love, love, love. It wasn't, like, bad for me. I still go back and listen to God Forgives I Don't along with, what's the, not God Forgives I Don't. The one with the writing on the back. Yes, that one. Rather You Than Me. Rather You Than Me. Like, that was just a few years ago, right?
Starting point is 01:59:22 So it's like Mike won the chip. He went away to play whatever. And then he came back and niggas were scared. Oh, shit. But you're back. You're scared because you know what he did just two years ago, yo. Joe, you're missing a point. The album you love, Rather You Than Me, it's 2017. He came back after that.
Starting point is 01:59:40 2019 with Port of Miami 2. Was not received the best. Had some records on there there I thought it did I do too there's records on there that I like but it was not it's not rather you than me correct now you come back with this one richer than I ever been
Starting point is 01:59:59 not received the best less records on there no you right I get what you're saying that's all I'm saying but that's why it's like there's
Starting point is 02:00:08 it's not a dip that's why I asked my bar question to you because to me and I could do this wrong because I'm a rapper but I try to have rapper empathy for rappers
Starting point is 02:00:17 the bar for me is your worst output for me that's probably rapper because that's the lowest that i've ever heard you get for me it can't get lower than whatever your low is it can only be up there's only room for hope and improvement i'm not gonna hold you to your high and i'm not gonna hold you to an average because that's just whatever but what you do when it's just bad, bad, I kind of give grace.
Starting point is 02:00:45 I'll skip it. So you're right. 2017, great album. That next album, wasn't his best. I don't hold him to it. Got it. That next album, eh, I see what could kind of go on there. Wasn't your greatest.
Starting point is 02:00:56 I'll wait to hear the next one before I say something like, a definitive statement, Rick Ross is such and such. Now, off mic mic we have these talks about niggas that's cooked correct completely before you leave that hold on hold on hold on wait we're gonna get back to that what is rick ross's worst album when you say you hold them to their worst what do you consider the worst album and where do you put richer than i ever been to that album richer than i ever been for me is not Ross' worst project. I'm not saying that.
Starting point is 02:01:27 I'm asking you what the worst is. Okay. I've never thought about it. Because I would like to know what you consider out of his discography to be the worst album. Scroll up. And then once you do that, I want to know how far away. Trilla? No.
Starting point is 02:01:39 Deep in the Rap? No. Teflon? No. God figures I don't know. Now you in the Mastermind hood billionaire black market era even mastermind i would say i love mastermind yeah but now when you get the hood billionaire black market and that's my beef with fans if i'm going off the consensus fuck the consensus man all right
Starting point is 02:02:00 so i'm going off me yes it's not's not Mastermind? No. Hood Billionaire is what? You just answered it. You don't know. Yeah. I'm saying you... What's on there? I've heard everywhere. I said, what's on there?
Starting point is 02:02:14 Hood Billionaire, Coke like 80s. Elvis Presley Boulevard was on there. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, but this... Yeah, this wasn't for me. Go ahead. Go back, please. And now check out Black Market.
Starting point is 02:02:25 I love Black Market. Black Market had some shit on it, too. I like Black Market. Go ahead. Go back, please. And now check out Black Market. I love Black Market. Black Market had some shit on it, too. I like Black Market. I did. So the hood billionaire was the word. That's what I was trying to figure out. For me, it would be hood billionaire. Oh, yeah, this one was Silk Road. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Black Market. See, but the reception changed. It's back to my fan point, and I'm leaving Ross because there are things
Starting point is 02:02:40 to discuss. The reception changed once your high is gone. Teflon Don. Now now no matter how good you are fans are slowly getting off of you uh rowdy and that rowdy uh roddy rich is going through a short version of that now with my high was my first like it was super high that which is the case for a lot of people yeah that's all so I just try to have a little bit of, be a little empathetic for rappers. That's why Superdome artists, they sophomore jinx them. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:03:08 It's hard to replicate that. It's hard to. Joe said that. What was your quote? You have your whole life. You get your whole life for your debut. Yeah. You get whatever that time span is for the next one.
Starting point is 02:03:18 And now you got expectations, budgets, money, features. We can put you with any producer that you want. What do you want dream it up and now make it it's different going in the studio when you the only one with confidence in what you could do and you smack one versus now you going in and they all just waiting nobody records nobody writes nobody does nothing yeah we sitting out they smoking blunts drinking 40s fucking bit but they fucking they inviting people to come through your friends is bringing every possible distraction to the studio and we still want to watch you be genius i mean i ain't got to tell park he's a fucking engineer you've been around enough studios
Starting point is 02:04:05 hell yeah yeah I just think it's unfair yo and I know that you a listener so you don't get into the mind of having to make
Starting point is 02:04:12 some of this shit but you niggas with full break bend it would be over yo I wanna hear how many times you go in there album back in the day
Starting point is 02:04:19 had to be 9 songs 10 songs go do it 10 times dope make it all different different concepts different topics in the CD era it was expected nine songs, ten songs, at least. Go do it ten times dope. Make it all different. Different concepts. Shit, albums had to be fucking loaded. Different topics.
Starting point is 02:04:26 In that time, in the CD era, it was expected to be 15, 17. Man, I used to hand in a whole album in this introspective shit. Yeah, that's cool, but where's your girl song? Where's your this song? Where's your this song? It was segmented. Today, artists have the luxury of it's free. It's just free.
Starting point is 02:04:44 Tyler's so genius, it's free. Oh, free tyler's so genius it's free oh shit he put kate capri on it well yeah and it's dope but it's free it's artistic it's niggas they got a lot more yeah niggas didn't really have that back then wait i want to put an ad in my ad free podcast really quickly for though to who this uh to who this may concern uh round of applause for us uh you guys in two months for your one year anniversary and me now this is our one year my one year our one year anniversary of uh the patreon deal we've been there for a year we introduced a new tier it's called part of the show i won't tell you the price check it your fucking self uh it's called part of the show and it's just me trying to integrate and be interactive like we sit here enough and talk about shit it'd be great if we could include y'all and
Starting point is 02:05:34 just be inclusive and hear some of the things that y'all want to hear us talk about so we can unpack that as well because we are the unpackers we are don't tell me about yo joe you bugging if you say that it's not for you. Mind your fucking business and let's totally move on. There. I'm excited for this. I am to an extent because I read what part of the show comes with and it says,
Starting point is 02:05:56 you know, we can read your comments and whatever you want us to talk about. That puts a bullseye on me. So I was like, choose what you want to discuss i know no i'm just talking about the comments why are you thinking put a bullseye on you because i know a couple people have been waiting to say some shit i know we don't have to talk about no i know if i don't want to i might call one of them what you think like? Like, I'm including that. I want to hear from our audience,
Starting point is 02:06:27 which is wide. No, that's dope. I do. No, it's very dope. It's some... Hey, man. You're just a little scared.
Starting point is 02:06:33 I get it. I understand, yo. I'm joking. I love the fans now. I used to hate them. But that nigga said you need a real nigga to hold you?
Starting point is 02:06:42 Wonder how that feels. Yo, we be right there and then he just... It's fine's fine somebody's got somebody's gotta be a little extra uh so let me get into my mmg segment here i didn't know i had one but shit is happening in real time broccoli festival dropped their flyer ari lennox name is at the top little dirk name is at the top. Lil Durk name is at the top. I tell y'all all the time that font size matters. And this is in DC. If you're unfamiliar, Wale's name is on the second row. That's a slight. In DC.
Starting point is 02:07:15 In DC with a project out on tour. And a good project. So let me tell y'all what that means. tour and a good project so let me tell y'all what that means that means that he or his planners are trying to route a tour through festival season tours take a few a little bit to plan they're intricate. And you might not be around D.C. in your routing by the time that festival pops up. But it's important to me, and that's home. And it's home. That's home.
Starting point is 02:07:52 Different energy. I would go out of my way to be there from tour. But I'm on the second row in the smaller font. Take me off. Wale says, I'm pulling out this show. Round of applause. Clap the ear. Round of applause.
Starting point is 02:08:10 21 Savage, Ari Lennox, Lil Durk. On the second sentence is Wale, Rico, Nasty, and Jesus. That's night one. Make sure that it's two nights. Okay, night one.
Starting point is 02:08:18 And the third row is Larry June, Joyce Rice, and Mooney Law. I love Mooney Law. Mooney Law. Whatever. I love both of them. And then the second night, and Mooney Long. Love Mooney Long. Mooney Long. Whatever. I love both of them.
Starting point is 02:08:27 And then the second night. And I'm joking. You're so stupid. She's great, though. She is. Second night, Summer Walker, Wizkid, Gunna, Don Tolliver, Tim's, Masego, and Babyface Ray. Oh, excuse me. Wall-A or No, You're Going?
Starting point is 02:08:43 May 7th. Wait, is this a typo it's gonna be warm hello that's not a typo that's a real festival man that's happening let me read the second line again
Starting point is 02:08:58 Summer Walker in the biggest font I've ever seen whiz kid whose name should be just as big as Summer Walker in the biggest font I've ever seen. Wizkid, whose name should be just as big as Summer Walker. Gunna, Don Tolliver, Tims, Masego, and Babyface Ray. And I love Alex Vaughn. I might be there someday. Wale, I'd have pulled out too.
Starting point is 02:09:26 For the same reasons as you. But looking at this, I would have wanted to be... At home, you put me on the first night? Nah. No. He's on tour, though. I don't give a fuck. I am home.
Starting point is 02:09:37 I'm home, dog. And tour planners, promoters, all that shit, they don't respect the value that comes with just hometown energy. You don't have to be the most current in the world or have the highest charting record or the highest selling album for there to be a different type of hometown energy.
Starting point is 02:09:54 Dog, I told y'all, anytime Wale tours, I go to Philly because it's close to home. That's damn near a home show for him when he does Philly. Nah, give me the Meek shit what are you doing I'm done I said my MMG segment
Starting point is 02:10:08 Wale is done on to Meek on to Meek on to Meek and this is pretty interesting and round of applause for just freedom of speech
Starting point is 02:10:21 having the courage and the gall and the cojones to say some of these things against the powers that be and this is why i really like me tweeting i don't care when he tweet the stupid shit because you got to get some of the good with the bad he says and i quote so look dog i made atlantic records hundreds of millions for clarity atlantic records is wale's old home he seemed a little upset with them and then he moved over to warner which is still atlantic i know so meek says i made atlantic record atlantic records hundreds of millions and let them ship me out of Roddy as an artist.
Starting point is 02:11:06 They came to me about in jail. Now y'all know me to find out. It was rape me out of artists. Well, got it. Same shit. Rape me out of Roddy as artists. Y'all know me to go and find the up and coming talent.
Starting point is 02:11:22 They still saying I can't drop music until nine months after my last album got blackballed. Just rap buildings and Nina art with talent. Roddy's my young and still, but that label separated us instantly when the millions came in from him. Same thing they tried to do with me and Rose. It takes a long time to catch up too, because most of them tied in for the love of some money. Artists are scared to speak up.
Starting point is 02:11:42 And he's speaking as a veteran. Yeah. Oh yeah. He got years in. dreams and nightmares is a decade old boy did i feel old when i realized that he continues they didn't put nothing into expensive pain and then said i can't drop another project for nine months at the end of my contract after i made them hundreds of millions how would can anybody survive that and he said that not me most rappers can't speak because they depend on these companies i don't if i didn't have millions i'd probably do something crazy they're outsmarting young black kids taking advantage and calling it business other artists speak up and tell the truth while you're winning not when you're
Starting point is 02:12:23 down i love that part oh he's got more i had to think roddy didn't come to me he was on his own grind they bought him to me and cut me out soon as the money came the label should have paid me not roddy then they fed him like i was trying then they fed him like i was trying to lock him in i was trying to help and eat ain't get a dollar from the label also i, I had to fight for my life to get DC4 counted as an album because they said I called it a mixtape. If y'all made 20 million off it, then what is it counted as? Let me read that again. Also, I had to fight for my life to get DC4 counted as an album because they said I called it a mixtape. If y'all made 20 million off of it, then what
Starting point is 02:13:06 is it counted as? Gentlemen. I appreciate this from him. I think it's a lesson to other up and coming artists. Like he's saying, yo, y'all acting like it's business. It ain't business.
Starting point is 02:13:24 It's really y'all bullshitting and raping us for money. Also even with the DC4 shit I'm assuming he on a multiple album deal
Starting point is 02:13:34 so they trying to get you to stay for two more albums and not count one of your albums as an album and y'all made bread off my shit.
Starting point is 02:13:41 If it was a mixtape y'all shouldn't have made 20 million dollars off of it. You get what I'm saying? The whole it was a mixtape, y'all shouldn't have made $20 million off of it. You get what I'm saying? The whole classification of album mixtape has always been weird to me and I don't really know how you
Starting point is 02:13:51 line that up. Before the mixtape was literally, remember, the mixtape used to have, for promotional use, only stamped on it. It wasn't sold. That was one of the main differences between mixtape and album. This wasn't being sold. So I'm with him. I mean, if all the stuff that he's saying is true, it's just basically divide and conquer.
Starting point is 02:14:13 And it's business. It's divide and conquer, and it's business. It don't have to be good business to be classified as business. No, I understand that. But some of the things that he's talking about, he's talking as if this was the last album in his deal. He is. That's what it sounds like.
Starting point is 02:14:37 That's what he's saying. And I want to get the fuck from under y'all. And as I've just said, maybe it couldn't have even been two weeks ago. And as I've just said, maybe it couldn't have even been two weeks ago. If that's your last album, your label is not investing and pouring into your project to raise your stock so you can go somewhere else and profit off of it. That's not Joe making it up. Please don't attack me. No, that makes sense. So when he says, I got to wait nine months after the project, after I went and did all this work.
Starting point is 02:15:05 Well, first of all, in your situation, you probably shouldn't have went and did all that work without checking the contract. No, it seems like the expensive pain was the next to last album. I think he got one more. If I'm reading it the way I'm reading it in my brain, he has one more. And he wants to get that one done. That's what it sounds like to me. He can't get another. He can't get his next album out for nine months which means i want to give you on this last
Starting point is 02:15:29 project get the fuck out my face no and they're saying no of course yeah as they should as they should in business they would you don't have to say should because again you can do quality business you want to leave cool leave i don't want to hold you here against your wishes that's not necessarily quality business though if to hold somebody against no no no no for what you said if you want to leave then leave i've invested a lot in you yes i've made a lot off you you're hot right now quality business is to continue making money up to the end like i don't necessarily want to just let you go either yeah quality business is i'm looking out i'm not looking out for you i'm looking out for the company and that's what i'm not and that right there doesn't make it
Starting point is 02:16:16 quality business we're in the music business i know especially a record label they're in the record they're in the record they're not in the business of they not here in quality not here to massage you no but quality business is not yo so you do business with morals quality business that's good that's what I'm saying so I just said business I didn't put the quality in front of it so even in your example with this being his second to last album on that other album with boy it sounded like some money was on that bitch it did it sounded like support was there put some money in there no i got a whole dub coming to that bitch bitch bitch bitch
Starting point is 02:17:00 put a 50 in there. But listen. Damn, what's that sound? Nah, you said the last album with some money on it. Oh, you can tell. You could hear the trained ear could, just the features. The samples.
Starting point is 02:17:12 The sample bunch. Samples. Yeah, just the samples. Damn it, the first five records was big samples. That's the other reason I don't be fucking with like the fans' thoughts on shit.
Starting point is 02:17:21 That last Russ album, not to get back on Russ, I can hear the money ain't there. I said that. It ain't there I said that it ain't there no more you did what you could do with what you could do it with same with Meek here
Starting point is 02:17:29 Expensive Pain you did that by yourself you got the verses the features by yourself you got the beat by yourself you rapped the buses by yourself you did
Starting point is 02:17:37 Rock Nation you did whatever y'all did but the label you could tell when they pull out a little bit and fans can't so they shit on the artists oh you ain't the same
Starting point is 02:17:44 you ain't the same. You ain't the same. Which is why it's funny. That's what you said about Big Sean. Which is why it's funny to judge. The exact same thing you said about Big Sean. When you painted it that way, it made me look at it a little differently because you was like, yo, I could see this is Sean out there standing on his own. Doing his best.
Starting point is 02:18:05 And I'm, again, empathetic. My word of the day is triggering for me because that's what they tore my ass up when Def Jam was in turmoil, changing presidents and regimes, and now every department was gone. I was 25, 24, pumping up with just... Oh, he's finished. He's cooked. He's done. Oh, it's whack. What a wonder.
Starting point is 02:18:22 Fam, it was a couple Years ago That I did that I'm 24 I don't care Why y'all treating me So I mean I just feel differently About these niggas man I'm glad that Meek
Starting point is 02:18:35 Shared this I remember when him And Roddy did all of this And yeah You brought Roddy Over there He popped I wanna get you
Starting point is 02:18:43 Away from this nigga Stop Stop Stop Fuck Yes the label Could have done Quality business Bro, Roddy over there, he popped. I want to get you away from this nigga. Stop, stop, stop. Fuck. Yes, the label could have done quality business, to Isha's point. I ain't arguing that. But with our information, and that's what he's saying,
Starting point is 02:18:55 so you got to get burnt by not having the information to go out there and get it. What Meek is saying is, yo, had I known, and had I handled that differently, I don't have to rap again right that's what he's saying that's the missed opportunity but i saw that and then he even said it i don't and his his beef even with that he was like roddy i don't i didn't look at roddy to pay me the label should have paid me that's he says that. It's not for Roddy. Don't want to make it seem like I'm calling Roddy out. The label should have paid me, not Roddy.
Starting point is 02:19:31 I don't need him to pay me. Y'all made whatever amount of money. Gary Vee says, if you have a dollar and spend a dollar, you didn't really lose a dollar. You lost the potential that the dollar had for you yeah what you did with it could have gained you whatever 20 100 but you spent it so you thinking you down a dollar but you're down a little bit if meek works out his percentages and whatever properly with the label that he's in good standing with that a MMG was over here while they was over here. We was over here.
Starting point is 02:20:06 We did it. We, we, that was our run. Y'all had, we kind of made it cool and hot for artists to even want to come fuck with y'all over here. Atlantic was popping when fucking back when fab was over there.
Starting point is 02:20:18 That was ages ago. Now they're great. Now, sorry, Julie. Hey, that's cool. I'm glad that I don't make music and I can just talk, but they're great now. Sorry, Julie Kaiser. Hey, that's cool. I'm glad that I don't make music and I can just talk, yo.
Starting point is 02:20:28 But they're great now. But Mika's saying, yo, had I worked that out, I get my percentage of Roddy. He popped on album one. I'm in for the ride. You might never hear from me again. And I'm sure that's got to bother him as he's around these billionaires. Man, we saw. He said they came and talked to him when he's around these billionaires man we saw as if
Starting point is 02:20:45 we saw him when he was in jail as it as it bothers me had i had i known what spotify was doing at the front we negotiate differently because the impact that you have there and the business that you open never part again but i would because i love it but you pod from a different seat yeah and you have to get burnt that way so when the opportunity presents itself again you know what to even fight for argue for you know what feels good and don't feel good there's no way to get it outside of being burnt like oh man let me not get into it. It's just a lot. Shout out to Meek, man.
Starting point is 02:21:27 What I like about this is the fact that, because artists have been feeling this way for years. Mm-hmm. Since the beginning of time, then, since music.
Starting point is 02:21:37 Yeah. And we now have that outlet via social media where they can tell kind of the next generation what's going on right on the spot right so somebody could be watching this and not make like i said before i don't have to learn from my mistakes i could learn from your mistakes right so somebody else could see this
Starting point is 02:21:58 and it prevent them from making the same fuck up down the line i was gonna add something similar to that but a bigger thing too is he says yo a bunch of artists feel like this i independently have enough money where i don't need them to feed me so i can voice my opinion and that's where and that's and that's very very very rare like yo i got enough money a lot of motherfuckers got to sit down and take it i don't necessarily got to sit down and take it i don't necessarily got to sit down and take it because y'all can't starve me out when you was 24 they could starve you out finish you get what i'm saying you can't say too much that's like you said about like you said about kanye that's how it gets yes same shit like you said about kanye like i don't need y'all i could tell y'all what the fuck is up i can throw my dick on the table anyway. I counter that with this
Starting point is 02:22:45 extremely small percentage of acts that make it there. He's one of them. He didn't do that this whole fucking decade. He played nice. When he was the hottest in the world, it wasn't a fucking peep
Starting point is 02:23:02 about an issue. You worked through whatever bad contracts existed and you made your money and now you stand in a spot where you have done well enough to say fuck them but wait two things could be true it could also be knowledge i know knowledge i just said knowledge because those both's both Two things could be true Me getting Me getting Standing in certain rooms And shit I get
Starting point is 02:23:29 You learn Yeah I learn more information Talking to certain attorneys This to me ties into And I wanted different things I wanted more We ain't seen Meek On a motorcycle in ages
Starting point is 02:23:36 Look this in me This to me ties into Ross on the album Saying I let these rapper niggas Get too close to Meek Like I think There's a little bit
Starting point is 02:23:47 more here like he's like yo had i not let people get too close to him whoever's filling his head with the way he's feeling right now may not happen now we don't know the inner workings of who's right who's wrong here but i think this rant and that line goes together. It's possible. Mustard said, I'm pretty sure it was Mustard. Mustard said, yo, you'll never hear me bitch about a bad contract because we all had a bad contract. And some of us work through it and make it to a space where we don't have to do that anymore. And some of us just keep getting the bad contracts. So now, once I grow and i get more information and i get more knowledge and if i'm sincere i'm trying to stop other young artists from getting
Starting point is 02:24:32 those shitty deals and those shitty contracts not just that because i am up financially and i don't need y'all to feed me he's saying nigga imagine if i didn't i want to come in here on some postal shit yeah he said if i wasn't rich I would come in here and do some other. You get what I'm saying? Like, I would want to come in here and do some other shit. You know what I'm talking about? Ice cream going in the park. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:50 You get what I'm saying? So he's saying, you young niggas, crush your T's, dot your I's, make sure everything is everything. Because if they got you, they got you. And they own you. And you can attest to that. And they know that. Period.
Starting point is 02:25:02 That's the game. They want you to not know any better they doing it on purpose that's the bad thing yeah I'm out no no
Starting point is 02:25:11 triggering yes and no it used to be real triggering cause I thought that most of us artists felt the same it took me to grow and learn that
Starting point is 02:25:20 we don't he's fighting for half he's fighting for halfsies right behind the door is a flock of niggas that's coming to sign their name on some shit that they never read
Starting point is 02:25:31 never seen and it's desperate for just the opportunity to work through a bad contract it's us over here that it's just different no it just depends
Starting point is 02:25:41 on what size of the fence you on I agree with that not even it just and where you at I am not disagree on. I agree with that. Not even. And where you at? Yeah, I am. I'm not disagreeing with that. Those same ones who are in a rush to sign that contract, once they sign it and learn what happens, they rush to get to the other side.
Starting point is 02:25:53 See, I think there's privilege in them niggas, but I'm a psycho. That's not psycho. There's privilege in them niggas. You know what my first contract was-ish? How many albums it was? Five. Five. In a time where you could not drop two.
Starting point is 02:26:09 Work it out. Five. We got you. And we got options. So you got five, and we want another one or two, whatever the fuck it says. Today, you hear him? Yo, I just dropped the album. They can't tell me to wait nine months.
Starting point is 02:26:23 He ready to go. Most of the kids today, I'm out. Yo, I'm working out. They can't tell me to wait nine months. He ready to go. Most of the kids today. Yo, I'm working my way out of this. So yeah, he's right. They're going to try and stop you today. But artists, we have some advantage. It's a little different today. We got to get the information.
Starting point is 02:26:36 That's all it is. We got to get out of this. That's the key. Yeah. It's the information. And it's always the information. And the information is. They can't hide it no more.
Starting point is 02:26:43 Exactly. They can't lock it in the safe and throw it away. Exactly got now niggas is talking the internet you got the internet you have mediums you got you have the artists who went through the bad deals yeah but you got that you can look let me be the bearer of bad news for more information that's released public it's more information that's hidden like when they see all this shit going on they changing rules every day podcasters the older acts Sharon Nori you got the older acts
Starting point is 02:27:09 coming up there giving game we see you niggas watch this hey that wasn't an album yeah you called it a mix that was the EP
Starting point is 02:27:18 your words you called it that I see you saying that your contract this is what they did when niggas was trying to work through shit your contract says five albums.
Starting point is 02:27:27 Mm-hmm. Not mixtapes. And you know what we do as artists? Yo, I got this album coming. And this is my shit that I'm setting up for the songs and shit. But my core audience, they expect it. I'm going to drop a little. I'm going to drop something first.
Starting point is 02:27:41 You got to fucking do all of that. Nah. Yo, you know what they told me um oh man the cheats the cheat codes that these young kids have today mixtapes didn't count toward nothing it was real mixtape nothing promo you didn't make shit promo only and you might get arrested nigga so then we then we said, we thought we had them. We're going to do all original music. That'll show them.
Starting point is 02:28:09 Now it's an album. Now it's an album. That's an album. Wait, you just threw that to the street? All right. EP, independent. Independent albums didn't even count. They didn't count on a publishing deal.
Starting point is 02:28:25 You did two independent albums. You didn't count on a publishing deal. You did two independent albums. You don't get half a point. No, half a credit. I fought for years before them to say, well, the game's changed. So we will count your project as a half.
Starting point is 02:28:42 Really? Yeah. It's a half. So when you do that again, it's a whole. It's a half so when you do that again it's a whole album you know how much you asking of an artist to remain hot or on top of his game or in the best creative space when they just trying to that's what they do with streams all the music business is is trickery of numbers yeah sorcery
Starting point is 02:29:09 have you and confusion Dr. Strange play action play action a lot of play action you hit that on the head man what else is important
Starting point is 02:29:24 Anthony Hamilton vs. Musicow, February 15th, Valentine's Day special. I love both of these gentlemen. It's going to be a bad night for one of them. Which one? I won't say it. I won't say it. I know which one. You know which one.
Starting point is 02:29:44 Yeah. They know which one. Yeah which one yeah they know which one yeah this is yo and it hurts me I don't really know which one
Starting point is 02:29:51 okay it's fine well could y'all tell them I would like to know it's Anthony Hamilton it's gonna have the bad night yes I was thinking
Starting point is 02:30:03 and that's my man no no no so I don't want to say it but the closer you get to 20 against music so deep water goes a little different that's what i thought it's he's different it's a different deep water different if it's 10 10 they've oh 10 you playing 10 is a slug fest now they're 20 with a nigga who who had hit big singles into album five. Oh, I agree. Because I was kind of, I wasn't,
Starting point is 02:30:30 no, I was still fucking with music, but when, teach me how to show you. That was later. The other one he got was later. See, look, this is crazy. Just friends is the point. Love, point. Girl next door, half crazy, don't change,
Starting point is 02:30:44 for the night who know oh no see he got joints that when you hear him buddy is a joint teach me make you happy radio if if you leave nah so beautiful stop stop stop stop stop stop see that's unfair for somebody to have to stand across from so beautiful anthony hamilton gonna have to get in his bag with that one. But he only got to. Let me not do that. He has three joints that should go against so beautiful. You heard so beautiful before.
Starting point is 02:31:15 Probably. I played it so you know what it is. No, you heard so beautiful. I probably did. Oh, no. And you played it for a little beautiful thing driving down. Let me stop. Because the fans are like, Joe be trying to stitch on his. Yo, Joe really hate is they gonna stop talking
Starting point is 02:31:27 again Joe I hate you niggas y'all I fucking hate you niggas it's one of my strongest friends y'all want me to just be delicate with this nigga
Starting point is 02:31:34 fuck y'all this uh is it's not fair oh it's not fair it's not fair this is
Starting point is 02:31:44 this has never not worked. You could have just met her 10 minutes ago. Just play it. That's it. You're my baby. It worked already. It worked already right there. Now we got to let this go to the hook.
Starting point is 02:32:00 That's my favorite thing about verses. You have to see people stand across from certified monsters, yo. Because this wasn't the biggest record, but every girl know it. Hey, now they singing along out there. Let's go. Hold up. Hey. Future would smoke this beat.
Starting point is 02:32:26 Now I'm letting it go to the hook, yo. I just feel so right I don't wanna waste no time If I had to choose I don't wanna always choose to be with you Cause girl, don't you know I'm so beautiful I wanna be with you I'm not just a man But the rest of your life. I want to be always here by your side.
Starting point is 02:32:49 Girl, don't you know you're so beautiful? I want to give all my love to you, girl. Not just tonight. All right, man. The rest of your life. Listen. Music is one of them. That's all.
Starting point is 02:33:04 That's crazy. He's one of them. Yeah, this is That's crazy. He's one of them. Yeah, that's my guy, though. Alex Golbat? It's going to be a fight for about 10 records. Yeah. It's going to be a fight for about 10 records. Not necessarily.
Starting point is 02:33:19 What did you say? Not necessarily. Nah, it's going to be a little slow. It depends on how hard music want to come out the gate. Wait, look how things come full circle, yo. I was in pain when I rapped on this shit, yo. I can't help but think of the stage girl in my life. I don't know everything I tried to do to get another ride.
Starting point is 02:33:42 Nah, yo, he bugged out. He bugged out. I'm going to give him a hook, and then he bugged out. He bugged out. I'm going to give him a hook and then we on to something. Alex, find something for us to talk about because I'm vibing. I'm vibing now. Uh-oh. Got you up. There you go.
Starting point is 02:33:58 What'd they say? No, no, no, no. I'm about to take you back. Nah, yo. Why'd she hurt me? That is crazy. Yeah, that's one of the pains of playing with her. Come on, what did Lil Durk do to somebody? Yo, that's where you was looking to snitch?
Starting point is 02:34:14 Huh? You was looking to snitch on a nigga? No, that's when I realized snitching didn't work. That's his take care, too. It ain't work. There's levels to this like there's a progression like
Starting point is 02:34:28 at this time ish I was broke and susceptible to losing to a rich nigga
Starting point is 02:34:35 that's what it was but it had to be harder for you what do you mean cause you still was famous yeah it makes it tough word that makes it tough mean? Because you still was famous. Yeah, it makes it tough. Word. That makes it tough. But the world know you was famous, and she know you was broke.
Starting point is 02:34:50 So now she going to go ahead and get out there. It ain't until you get up, and now you just, hey, buddy. Oh, it's different now. Now we got to play fair. Or not. And that's where these rapping niggas go crazy. Because now I see you with a girl.
Starting point is 02:35:06 You rich. You at Topgolf getting your shit off. Right? I like her. I found her on Instagram somehow. Explore page looked out. I sent a little DM.
Starting point is 02:35:15 I golf a little bit too. She come out with me. I ain't telling I don't know you. We used to do this. We don't need to. All right, moving right along.
Starting point is 02:35:23 Moving right along. What's going on here? In our past. More Atlantic beef. All right, moving right along. Moving right along. What's going on here? In our past. More Atlantic beef. More Atlantic, yeah. NBA Youngboy. I would throw my hat if I wasn't George Jefferson right now. I would do it.
Starting point is 02:35:34 I might do it anyway later. Why blackball me when I'm the good guy, says NBA Youngboy. I was going number one two weeks straight with a mixtape. So they took it down off the charts. Wait. Wait. No wait no no no who they he better not say atlantic keep reading no you better keep reading i don't give a fuck he says you still can't stop me don't sign the atlantic if you were artists they're not gonna support you especially if you live a certain way that last part is the key stop stop that's that's somebody else page go back to the other shit alex his go up go up that wasn't it right there that's not him that's the fans did that um that's the thing that ain't
Starting point is 02:36:21 happening that last line that he said especially if you live a certain way is so key because I have Atlantic as the label that is going to find you if you live a certain way it's probably the quickest way for you to get a deal over there if you living like that so for him to say that
Starting point is 02:36:38 is interesting number one I also heard through the grapevine that he ain't getting a red penny from his YouTube I heard that and I saw this is going back to yo I saw this was
Starting point is 02:36:53 this might have been 2017 18 I saw what his YouTube was making a month I know what it's making a month without seeing the label's getting it. How they do that? Because you signed over your digital rights.
Starting point is 02:37:10 And that's what I was about to tell you. So that's why the labels go look for niggas that's living a certain way. But let me give it to you before you keep going. I also didn't know the value. Now go. So you're going to target the young, wow, great, yo, and we're going to throw you 400 grand, and it's more money than you potentially ever seen legally. Think about your mother.
Starting point is 02:37:35 Think about your auntie. You think about your little sister that's going to public school. I'm going to take the 400, and yeah, I'm going to sign anything away. They're going to push you. Yeah, you're going on tour. You're going to get, what was that? You're you're gonna be large what video was that back we was young they was like you're gonna win you're gonna be luck fam and you give it away and so now you fuck you kind of and they kind of own you back to meek's point they kind of be a young boy
Starting point is 02:38:00 probably was a cash cow would never have to rap if he owned his youtube if he owned just youtube no just the youtube yeah just one source of owning just the youtube bro when i saw the numbers he fine that's how incredibly insane yes he was he's the top listen he's the top no no no no on youtube on youtube for a couple years i want to say like 16, 17, 18, or 17, something like that. He was hiding Drake on YouTube. He was number one. He's him. I don't think he's working this, know what's on it, know what to put on it.
Starting point is 02:38:40 No, they doing it. Give a fuck about it. It was to the point where they were dropping music only on his YouTube it wasn't on streaming it wasn't on no mixtape it wasn't on no album the only way you could hear it
Starting point is 02:38:54 is to go to the YouTube page and he not getting no spanking that's crazy something but he ain't gotta be getting shit these niggas is going around performing at all these That's crazy. Something. You ain't got to be getting shit. These niggas is going around performing at all these little digital spots
Starting point is 02:39:10 for the look. They don't have to necessarily be profiting from it. I don't think he's getting anything from that YouTube. I don't know. But heard through the grapevine
Starting point is 02:39:20 and that grapevine kept talking. Talking to the little grapevines. My mouth was on the floor. It still was going. California grapes. Well, look, I wanted to double check and he himself said he has made no money
Starting point is 02:39:34 off of the millions of views his videos have done on YouTube. That's him. He said, I think as you learn how badly you've been taken advantage of, I never got paid for YouTube a day of my life. Niggas make all the money off my YouTube then give me a small percentage of my shit.
Starting point is 02:39:50 All that shit is slavery or something. But you know, that's what we signed up for in this business. Yeah, absolutely. This was December 2021. Absolutely correct. Yeah. I saw 33 million million 15.9 million
Starting point is 02:40:05 that's 34 million per video one view so for him to say that is like they taking all my money and just throwing me some pennies
Starting point is 02:40:14 well what do they think the labels were doing again you don't know because you've never seen this kind of money you don't know the inner workings you don't even know
Starting point is 02:40:23 that this type of money is possible for you. Yo, this podcast is so important. Like, all these conversations we had today are super important. And it leads me to they little money challenge. These niggas are just running around drawing things on the floor. Happy that we can afford the chain. Happy that we can pay the rent without worry. Happy we could do things the rent without worry.
Starting point is 02:40:49 Happy we could do things on this minimal scale. And it's not until we find out that greater exists and you capable of it. And you created it. How about that? Not even capable of it. You find out what your shit is making. Nah, the capability part is huge. Yeah. Because we, coming from where we from, we look at that shit
Starting point is 02:41:05 as impossible, bro. Right. Like, I'm telling you, we look at certain feats like they are impossible. But I'm just saying, it's one thing to know you're capable of it.
Starting point is 02:41:13 It's a whole other thing to know that I created it. That's what it's making. The shit that I made, they go hand in hand. They are both, I don't want to just casually say it
Starting point is 02:41:22 because y'all all right. They both are two of the biggest monumental lessons you'll have to go through so much to learn that yo i was bumping my head against the wall at 20 years old when leon them niggas kept saying no we need something that we need some something that some that i didn't understand what that meant so if you never did it before you just making stuff and now you have no point of reference as to what's close what's not and then you have to learn oh i made that and it's capable of that to me this is the same shit in the hood the the car lot in the hood predatory linden shit like they know you don't know any better.
Starting point is 02:42:07 So they know you just want to get in this car. So yeah, come on down. Sign your name here. We'll put you in this car for $500. You're paying three times what the car costs. You getting fucked. But you don't know it because you got the car. They come to these rappers.
Starting point is 02:42:20 They know you know no better. You have no idea what this shit could even be worth before it's's created we see something in you that you don't know exists we can build you up we can make you a star sign here you are broke you ain't seen no money in your life so here here go 50 grand here go a diamond chain hey we want to go shopping you want to want us to airbnb you a crib somewhere dope where you could look good on a gram? You want some wheels? What do you want? We'll do all of that.
Starting point is 02:42:52 Because you come from the bottom and never seen it, you think this is life. I made it. I'm at the top. And now you realize what your shit is really making. They took advantage of you off the rip. And that's where we get these statements from. It's like, yo, these niggas really robbed me. I think it's a different thing. I think it's deeper than that.
Starting point is 02:43:05 I think from where we from, you never even think that you could live in a nice house. You know what I'm saying? You never even think that you could get cars because niggas in your hood get cars. So you see cars. You know that's a possibility. You put millions of dollars or a trip to fucking Central Pay, that's something that's foreign to you. That's only television to you. You get what I'm saying? So you don't think
Starting point is 02:43:30 you're capable. You, you have a self doubt. You don't think you're capable of putting out a product that's going to generate hundreds of millions of dollars. You don't even have that belief in yourself coming from where we from. You don't believe that that's possible. So you think I am worth 50 grand maybe
Starting point is 02:43:45 because I'm kind of dope around my way. They gonna come give you 300 grand. So they just validated what you think you worth and more but they know
Starting point is 02:43:54 you worth 200 million. And most of them niggas most of the artists the young they create it with the ease. They create it
Starting point is 02:44:02 with the it comes so that's why he got so much. It comes so fast to them that. They don't put value on it either. Yeah. That's true. I'm not even trying.
Starting point is 02:44:12 You know, I remember one time we first started doing shows. I think boring with somebody was like, yo, we getting paid for this? And I said, yo, that's how I feel every day, yo. I would do this for free. Problem number one. Sure. Problem number one Sure Problem number one Gotta change that If you feel like that
Starting point is 02:44:28 See But you shouldn't Cause we're passionate We love it But Yeah As long as you passionate And love it
Starting point is 02:44:36 And you just willing to Yo pop up over here Come through over here Then you not gonna go And fucking Yeah you not man You not It's tough
Starting point is 02:44:44 It's tough man apparently a lot of artists are speaking out i didn't know so much what's going on today it's a lot yo my heart is with all y'all man i understand i under dig i get it and i wish y'all the best get a good lawyer make sure the lawyer is not in with the label that word y'all make sure that the lawyer uh doesn't have other acts where it's a conflict of interest with you. Just get you a lawyer that's for you, yo. That's for you. And I know that's tough because I see a lot of y'all being controlled by lawyers that are not for y'all.
Starting point is 02:45:19 Yeah, do better, man. That's what I got. Is there anything else in music? I think we kind of crushed music I think so today and somehow we started
Starting point is 02:45:28 with babies it's fine it's fine I want oh what I mean just real quick in music
Starting point is 02:45:39 Nikki put the idea out there that she's ready to entertain a versus she said there's two she didn't list them but she said there's two there that she's ready to entertain a versus. She didn't list them, but she said there's two females that she thinks it would be interesting to see. So everyone's been running rampant
Starting point is 02:45:52 of course trying to guess the names. Kim would have to be one of them. Kim better be one. And the other one is Smoke and Mirrors. Just by process of elimination. She's tight with Foxy, so you could see it being Foxy, but that's not what I don't think that She's tight with Foxy, so you could see it being Foxy, but that's not what I don't think that she's talking about, Foxy.
Starting point is 02:46:08 I think some of the younger girlies that's doing it now, they don't have the catalog to do it. So who's the other one? Oh, you said there is no other one. I'm saying there is no other one. It might be a Missy. I was saying Missy Elliott. Outside of Missy and Kim, I don't see it.
Starting point is 02:46:22 That could be it, too. Yeah, that could be it, too. And I would enjoy either one of those me too niggas are scared to say Missy's name I'm not talking about
Starting point is 02:46:29 Nicki right now I'm just talking about Missy's people, artists yeah they scared she on Twitter waiting for one of y'all
Starting point is 02:46:35 to do it she is she on this she on like hey y'all I'm here today what's up who was on today
Starting point is 02:46:41 it's the anniversary it is just like y'all know I'm here I'm around she on twitter like I'm just gardening today like
Starting point is 02:46:48 alright now you got it yo chill chill miss ladies night chill big M big M that's big M yo last bit of music
Starting point is 02:46:58 yo how much music does Ice have yo he just said that was the last bit no I said it just to touch on that but we were talking about people rebelling and Indie Irie pulled her stuff off Spotify oh true true does always have. He just said that was the last No, I said it just to touch on that, but we were talking about people
Starting point is 02:47:06 rebelling and NDIR pulled her stuff off Spotify. Oh, true, true. No mad people now. No. Stop. This is not that simple. This is mad deep now. This is mad, mad deep now. So let's go over it
Starting point is 02:47:21 because I think we touched this on Patreon. It don't matter. Let's go over it. Let's go over it because i think we touched this on patreon it don't matter let's go over it let's go over it now joe rogan the biggest podcaster in the world hands down probably not even podcaster probably just broadcaster broadcaster in the world by far uh goes through some things because of how wide his audience is. And he gets up there and he invites people with contrasting opinions to counter and rebut some of his wild shit that he says. And he's been doing this with vaccine and the vaccine and shit for a long time. Joe Rogan is exclusively signed to Spotify for like $300 million.
Starting point is 02:48:01 Deep ill, right? Neil Young said, I cannot support this. It's going to be joe rogan or me i cannot keep my music and his his bag is deep it is i can't keep my music there and support this while joe rogan is there to my to my interpretation i thought spot, I hear you, but suck my dick, we rolling with our guy. This is the person we paid, and this is the person that we're going with. But then, what I didn't factor in was Neil Young has friends. And his friends ain't regular friends. No.
Starting point is 02:48:47 His name is held in high regard with white elite legend artists. Yo, pull up the list. NDIRE is great and we're going to get there. Joni Mitchell. But it's like Queen. Paul McCartney.
Starting point is 02:49:01 No. Paul McCartney was on that list. Barbra Streisand. That's another group. One of the big white groupsand Let's pull it up so we're not guessing We haven't found a definitive list I saw Stones thrown in there I saw Queen thrown in there I saw Paul McCartney
Starting point is 02:49:17 Paul McCartney I've seen some of the biggest names Ever That got old school catalogs yes so that's which again back to the conversation we had last time is 70 of music generation music they lost the day that they announced the uh the uh the first one yeah neil young they lost four billion on the stock market that day and i saw i don't follow stock market but uh i saw a lot of people saying everything went down it wasn't could be like everything's down gotcha so it's it might not
Starting point is 02:49:53 be necessarily directly correlated but i mean the the threat of this being a this broader ban this become a mass exit it's crazy though there's a problem there if you really want to look at it already a problem so these people have a problem with him putting misinformation out about vaccines but he can run around saying nigga anytime he feel like it and nobody calls for a boycott at that that's crazy to me like we cancel everybody right has he done it said nigga but they have a verbal collage of him saying nigga got it and it's it's like Like, we cancel everybody, right? Has he done it? Said, nigga. Bro, they have a verbal collage of him saying nigga. Got it. And it's like two, three minutes long.
Starting point is 02:50:31 You know what I'm saying? So he can say whatever he wants to say about race-related shit, and nobody says a fucking word. But somebody else will get canceled in a heartbeat. If they say something about other minority groups, they'll get canceled. And that's crazy to me and that's where everybody be mad at me because i'm always pushing money money money but that's what separates all the other shit when you got enough money or enough money is generated from you you could do what the fuck you want to do in america i i disagree a little bit i think that comes from us just never being unified. Because we are the biggest purchasers.
Starting point is 02:51:09 We have all the buying power. Not in his demo. But what I'm saying is if all of us were to come together and anytime someone says nigga or something like that, we cancel them the same way if you piss off certain other organizations, they wouldn't even allow that. They'd be afraid of that before it even gets to that point. I would need more information on the racist stuff with him because I don't know if that's true and I don't want to put that
Starting point is 02:51:31 on him. I'm telling you, I saw a video. I've seen a lot of videos of people. This ain't no deep fake. This was video video. They took a bunch of clips, ran it together. He might be a racist. I don't know. Even if you're not a racist, he might not be a racist. He could just be a shock. I'm just trying to get people pissed off. He he might be a racist i don't know i just don't like putting that even if you're not a racist he might not be a racist like i'm just trying to get he might not be a racist because i've seen interviews of him with black people and he seems like he genuinely fucks
Starting point is 02:51:54 with them and kicks it that's a possibility what i'm saying is that we can't make comments about certain minority groups whether you are anti that group or not we shy away from on the show correct why based on ability for them to cancel us i'm gonna touch on your point ice cause black people make up 13 i think of the country so our demo oftentimes is not powerful enough or financially capable of crippling somebody like that that's the difference between some of the other minority groups they have people in positions of power financially that could stop you from eating ma'am if we were to buy together and collectively say yo we are not fucking with that we're not putting our money in spotify spotify don't fire him they feel it they feel it they don't feel it
Starting point is 02:52:44 something might change now they feel it now now hold it. They don't fire him. They feel it. Something might change. Now. They feeling it now. Now, hold on. Based on our demo. But wait, but wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on, please. Ish.
Starting point is 02:52:51 Y'all taking this somewhere else. Let's go. Let's go back five years. Let's say we were bounded together then or six years, however long ago, to where we are on that list of people, yo, you can't piss off the blacks. Because they act we don't come together dog i'm not just we are so i'm not separating with you you you doing apples and oranges um and i don't want to stay on this i'm talking about yeah you could do that in retail you could do that in certain spaces but in this particular space i'm talking about joe rogan space his demo ain't necessarily us so his demo is gonna still support him regardless of his demo finish ice
Starting point is 02:53:33 yes regardless of what his point is and what he says about us his demo still gonna tune into him every week so we ain't gonna put a dent in spotify posting him on the radio they're not gonna say a fucking thing because the numbers is going to still be the numbers. Now, in positions like retail, Gucci do some shit. We're a big supporter of Gucci. And retail stuff, we spend all our fucking money everywhere. Right. So now we can dent they shit.
Starting point is 02:53:56 I'm talking about for him and other spaces, we don't necessarily hold a power. If we were united and the biggest fucking artists your drakes your biggest black artists said i'm not fucking with spotify they listened dog it's a possibility that's what i'm telling i don't just mean us as i'm talking about black people if we could get on the same page for once possible we could make a change you think drake's on the black side? Don't worry about it. Let's keep going. I do. I think his peers will push him to do that. Even if he wasn't.
Starting point is 02:54:30 Listen, this is when I, y'all unpack some shit for 20 minutes and then the important shit I have to say about it is like, but this is when I knew
Starting point is 02:54:40 that something was serious here. Spotify is no longer letting people cancel subscription no no it's fixed now but this gentleman goes on to say their customer service system is completely overwhelmed people are asking to cancel and being told they cannot oh shit these are called tech games yeah absolutely presumably spotify will allow cancellations again at some point once their system is not so flooded Share any interactions you're having with them This is the people spreading the good word out there
Starting point is 02:55:08 To answer the first question y'all are asking No, preventing people from canceling Is not legal, it's deceptive business practice And forbidding every state that I know of Also violates FTC regulations If this lasts for hours, it's a tech issue If it's longer, it becomes a legal issue That's what told me This is a little more serious than i thought and then uh the day i woke up
Starting point is 02:55:31 and joe rogan would himself had a video out yeah as the as the biggest broadcaster in the world when you come out to address whatever is going on out of your cubbyhole. Somebody might have pushed you to do that. Somebody asked you to do it or urged you to do it. Presumably your business partners. Also Spotify now has a vaccine sensitive content label that they put over
Starting point is 02:55:58 anything vaccine related. So they are doing their best damage control job. But if more artists join this, depending on who those artists are, then it gets different. This can get different fast.
Starting point is 02:56:12 I agree. From the artist standpoint, Spotify pays out the least. If you're some of these big people, you're like, take that shit off. I don't really care. Make triple that money on Apple and Tidal. And if you go to Apple or Tidal right now, by the way, take that shit off. I don't really care. Make triple that money on Apple and Tidal. And if you go to Apple or Tidal right now, by the way, we love Neil.
Starting point is 02:56:28 Neil. The whole playlist. Neil Young. We love Joni. Joni. Big playlist. Joni Mitchell never lied. They're not stupid.
Starting point is 02:56:35 They're not playing around. That's funny. I also learned this on Twitter, which I did not know. Apparently, Neil Young is not the one to play with about these things because he's him this says and i'm reading anna lauren hello to you love you the thing about neil young is that he contracted polio as a child in the 50s years years before vaccine was available after being released from the hospital he had to relearn how to walk. Polio left him permanently disabled, contributed to a serious anxiety disorder, and affects his life to this day. Joni Mitchell as well.
Starting point is 02:57:11 Neil also has epilepsy, as does his daughter. His two sons have cerebral palsy. He wrote a whole album called Trans as a way to communicate with one of them. He and his wife also founded a non-profit called The Bridge School for Kids with Severe Disabilities. Joni Mitchell also was a victim of polio in her youth, so
Starting point is 02:57:33 they tried to spin it and say that they were pushing the vaccine shit. They really were affected physically and life-altering shit around the diseases. I say that to say they have the right man for this fight
Starting point is 02:57:48 yeah him and Joni Joni Mitchell they got the right people it was both of them like this this matter is just near and dear to his heart
Starting point is 02:57:54 and he's been about that protest shit like Ohio is a song from the 60s about when they shot people at Ohio campus four dead in Ohio is a song
Starting point is 02:58:02 like he's been in the protest game for 50 years 60 years years, whatever it's been. Woodstock Jokers. Yeah. Now, this is an incredible story that I might have slept on at the time because I know that Spotify is not abandoning Joe Rogan. They're heavy invested there.
Starting point is 02:58:20 But that could change. I mean, if you get all these artists that are reportedly on board with the the boycotts that's good it's within the realm of possibility it is but we've seen that just because like you said you made joe rogan jump out on the camera and start addressing some shit that's true so that right there says yo there's some there's some heat at the front door ice has a point with regards to if every single artist of a certain genre ethnicity were to pull then it definitely would make some waves but i was talking about him specifically in his demo you know i'm saying like him specifically in his demo we ain't necessarily listening to joe rogan
Starting point is 02:58:59 at a clip correct that would affect him i'm with I'm with you for all of the people that if we got together we can impact all the black people hey I'm with you but for all of us just as many white people
Starting point is 02:59:13 that if they say niggas they attract they attract an audience a whole different audience it's not to be lost that Rogan has these clips floating around
Starting point is 02:59:22 and he's also the largest broadcaster in the world there's a reason that he is able to I'm not saying that's the reason he clips floating around and he's also the largest broadcaster in the world. There's a reason that he is able to, I'm not saying that's the reason he's great at what he does, but there are a few reasons going on as to why that is. There.
Starting point is 02:59:35 I agree with that. What else we got? We are unpacking it today. I got nothing else in music. Thank God, man. Shut the fuck up. We can let you know that's it. Ice will tell you every fucking single EP.
Starting point is 02:59:50 Hey, listen, that was important shit. No, it was. It was. We can transition to football if you want. Hey. And there is a transition here. Brian Flores is suing both the Dolphins and the Giants and apparently the Broncos for racial discrimination.
Starting point is 03:00:04 You're lying. I thought he got a second interview. No, they hired Dable. I think he had an interview with the Texans or something like that. I love that. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:14 Oh, he's still in the league. The league, the teams. I love it, yo. Class action. It's a class action with two other black coaches. I'm hitting around both of them. Because I just saw Chris Bosh
Starting point is 03:00:24 going on a rant saying that he is going to boycott the NFL over how they're treating the black coaches because I watch these games with my son and my son needs to see
Starting point is 03:00:34 players and people on the sidelines to Isha's point earlier that gives them hope that they could be the next Madden, Belichick, or whoever.
Starting point is 03:00:40 Why do we only have these great, amazing white coaches? It's by design. Even when they fail, they get another job. Mm-hmm.'s by design. Even when they fail, they get another job. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Even when they fail, they get another job. Flores did an amazing job.
Starting point is 03:00:51 Dog, if you really want to be honest, I like Ty Bowles. Me too. I liked him. They didn't give him shit to work with. It was the bum-ass Jets. The biggest travesty to me in this whole coaching cycle has been Jim Caldwell not getting any interviews of note. He's an amazing.
Starting point is 03:01:08 He took the fucking Lions to the playoffs. I didn't even think about that. He's a great, great coach. I do like the hires that the Giants did, pulling all the Bills people over there. But we didn't understand what's up with the Giants. And I'm a Giants fan. But we know what time it is, yo. See, and even that's a shame.
Starting point is 03:01:32 I'm a fan, but we know what time it is. I just think that. It's sick. I think it won't change. I think it'll change soon. I think the same thing that I attribute to. All right, I'm getting out of stand. I'm sick of y'all.
Starting point is 03:01:42 Go ahead. No, no, no. We're going to move. We're going to go good. We're going to go good. I think that... We're going to do good. I just think it's a whole bunch of older white men
Starting point is 03:01:50 that are billionaires. They clubbed. In their 70s. Right? The owners are mostly old, rich white guys. Same thing with the Senate. Same thing with politics.
Starting point is 03:01:59 It's the same shit. And I think just over a period of time, we're going to start to gain equity in these things as they pass away they daughters like us i'm saying like i just think that over a period of time it'll change but i think as constructed today they got the power and they and and they kind of anti even when you're trying to co-opt fuck out of here this mind yeah i could do what the fuck i want to do
Starting point is 03:02:23 and i think that's just where we are in politics i think we are in sports i think we are in a bunch of different um uh forums but i think it's slowly gonna change as we like you said as they die off yeah i don't want to i'm just you know me i'm blind well when them old motherfuckers die off yeah that's what i'm saying sorry I'm sorry. All right. It's fine. We went from out there to the killer cam. There we go. Yeah. I said he missed
Starting point is 03:02:48 when Cam was killing. It's fine. I got you. I got you. I got you. Hold on. That was a good
Starting point is 03:02:55 little joke. No, it's my fucking challenge. Hold on. Here we go. All right. Yeah. Y'all determined
Starting point is 03:03:04 to fucking sadden me out With all this shit What do you mean how? Say something silly Joe is Joe That I was right We can go to Joe is Joe
Starting point is 03:03:14 That I was right Hey Shut up We were right to football To football Yeah Ice was right Shocked the fucking world
Starting point is 03:03:21 And I'm so glad That it was Hey I do Shock the fucking world And I'm so glad that it was Hey I do Take that, my homies Take that That's what Joe Burrow called Pat Mahomes Yo, that Mahomes kid is
Starting point is 03:03:36 He almost had us Yo, shout out to anybody in Cincinnati Shout out to the Ohio State people now trying to claim Joe Burrow. That's fucked up. That's fucked up, yo. I see what y'all doing. LSU don't like that. And I like his response.
Starting point is 03:03:52 Yeah, me too. Wait a minute. Heading to hour three without standing, man. Wow, I thought we did a good job. I feel alive. I feel alive. I feel alive. I feel alive.
Starting point is 03:04:06 I feel alive. I feel alive. I feel alive. I feel alive. I feel alive. I feel alive. I feel alive. I feel alive.
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Starting point is 03:04:10 I feel alive. I feel alive. I feel alive. I feel alive. I feel alive. I feel alive. I feel alive. I feel alive. I want to say Joe was correct, too, just not as correct as you. Because I forgot to actually call it.
Starting point is 03:04:26 And then when we came back in Thursday, it was Thursday. So I forgot again. But I did want to be able to put something on it. And I wasn't shocked at what happened. I watched the game of court. When it was 21-3, I didn't. I thought it was a dub. That second half, the Cincy defense, you got to give them their props.
Starting point is 03:04:46 I know Joe Burrow's going to get all the praise, but it was really that secondary? No, the team. The team. Particularly the secondary because Mahomes was sitting in that pocket for a minute looking for receivers and could not find any in the second half. I knew this game was over for me. When they went for that touchdown, going into the half, it was a wrap. I said, yep,
Starting point is 03:05:08 you're fucked up. It was a wrap. And they were still down 18 at that point. No, you find yourself starting to root for Cincinnati because of the arrogance of them not to take that field goal. True. You know what I'm saying? That was just some dumb shit. You don't leave three points on the board. I didn't understand it.
Starting point is 03:05:24 Arrogance. What you mean? You don't understand why they didn I didn't understand it. Arrogance. What you mean? You don't understand why they didn't kick the field goal. Yeah. Arrogance. And look what they lost by. It's getting cute. Look what they lost by.
Starting point is 03:05:32 Like, yo, they was blowing them out and you start being arrogant instead of being practical. Fam, it's we the Chiefs. We run the AFC. You little niggas
Starting point is 03:05:40 don't even belong on the field with us. I'm not going to get, no, I'm going to beat your ass. I didn't respect you even being here. And that's what they've been, and that's why I had them to win. They've been faced this the entire playoffs.
Starting point is 03:05:54 They don't know they don't belong. Nobody respects Cincinnati being here. Yeah, they don't know they don't belong. Fuck y'all, we belong. Nigga, we winners. But that's the thing about it. We won in college. We do this. But that's the thing about the Chiefs.
Starting point is 03:06:00 Nigga, we winners. But that's the thing about it. We won in college. We do this. But that's the thing about the Chiefs. Like, when you watch them, they strike me as the team that, yo, when things ain't going the greatest, oh, we've seen it. When things ain't going the greatest, they can kind of look around at each other and wait until the magic comes back.
Starting point is 03:06:16 They look choky. Like, when them lights come on and that pressure come and my homes might not be my homesing, they look around a little bit. And from quarter three, it was nothing but looking around. That's true. It was nothing but looking around. Especially if they don't get a call or two.
Starting point is 03:06:33 Yeah. Because there was some questionable shit going on. If they don't get a call or two, they can't get into a rhythm. And again, you need those three or four little dump-offs, little 12-yard joints that I say Tom Brady's so good at. You need those to get a rhythm. They couldn't find one. And he started getting
Starting point is 03:06:48 sacked. And then he started looking. Like even with his scrambles. He wasn't scrambling in third. He'll run to get 15. He'll run and get 17 yards. First down. Make the chains move. He wasn't getting none of that shit. And they fell flat. It looked like he choked. And I fuck with him. I wanted him to win.
Starting point is 03:07:04 But it looked like he choked. The I fuck with him. I wanted him to win. But it looked like he choked. The NFL felt sad that the Chiefs lost. Oh yeah. NFL hates that. The Chiefs Rams? They didn't expect this. That is a marketing dream for them. Yeah. Congratulations to the Bengals.
Starting point is 03:07:19 The organization, Joe Burrow, Chase. Go Jamar Chase, man. And they are their other teammates over there, too. Yeah. Lyman was over there. I forgot. It's swag, yo. Bro, look at how he walks.
Starting point is 03:07:32 He carries himself accordingly. The same dude that carried Joe Burrow after the LSU game is the same dude that carried him. Talk about it, man. Sometimes the football gods just do it. And again, this has been one of the best playoffs that I have been around for. Both these games were great. Ever. Every game has been decided by the last possession.
Starting point is 03:07:51 Some last second shit. The Chiefs will get it together. Losing to Tom Brady is understandable. But this, nah, you got to wear that. You got to wear that one. Sorry. He was up 18 and a half times. I don't want to hear none of that pretty shit.
Starting point is 03:08:04 I don't want to hear shit. I don't want to hear none of that pretty shit. I don't want to hear shit. Y'all go sit with them. You're going to go draw something else up. They'll be back.
Starting point is 03:08:12 They'll be back. This was their year to actually. You had to do it this year. I don't want to hear that they be back. You got some shit
Starting point is 03:08:20 to worry about out there in that AFC now. They might not come back. It ain't like it was where everybody was like, oh, Kansas City just going to run the AFC for the AFC now. They might not come back. It ain't like it was where everybody was like, oh, Kansas City just gonna run
Starting point is 03:08:25 the AFC for the next 15 years. They're gonna be in the competition for the next... Yes, they are. They will. Our point is... It ain't a cakewalk like everybody thought it was.
Starting point is 03:08:35 That shield of invincibility, that cloak, that magic. They bled. Nah, I remember... It's gone. You can see them leave. I remember when the Rams
Starting point is 03:08:43 was the greatest show on turf. And I remember they wasn't. They was smoking niggas' boots, and it reminds you of them. Rams used to be so cocky, they wouldn't even punt on fourth down. Let's stay with Rams. Let's get right into it. Let's not stay on football for a million years. So now, my new niggas is Joe Burrow, and then I got to take my hat off to Debo.
Starting point is 03:09:03 Even in the loss, he's a monster, yo. That Niners team is so tough, yo. I liked them a lot. That was a great game, too. I was looking at Corey a little worried, yo. Because the Rams is tough and that's my team. But the Niners came out Ninerin'. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:09:18 They were clearly... Tough-nosed football. Yeah, ready to go. But good old Jimmy G. Oh. Oh, I like Jimmy G. Oh, that dropped interception changed that game. Changed the whole game.
Starting point is 03:09:32 What the fuck is y'all talking about? It wasn't none of that. He catched that interception. This game's over. They could have had Cooper Cuff, Cooper Glass, Cooper Bull. The game is over. It was seven minutes or something left. Not even.
Starting point is 03:09:42 Nine minutes left. If he picks that ball off and they go down to score a touchdown, this game's over. I agree. Fuck what y'all talking about. That changed the game. Yeah, he did. I know.
Starting point is 03:09:52 But it was a momentum shift as well. And it allowed – football's a game of momentum. Momentum. And that changed it. They had the momentum in their favor. I equate that to the field goal. I equate that to the field goal. I think if Kansas City kicks the field goal going into the half,
Starting point is 03:10:06 they win the game. That's my personal opinion. I think if homeboy from the Niners catches that interception, game is over. Yeah, I agree. That's my opinion. I agree. Great game, though.
Starting point is 03:10:17 Great game. All the games have been great. The whole playoffs. The whole playoffs. Best playoffs of my lifetime, without question, that I can remember. Your man, Jimmy G, he'd be giving the game away. I take it. Eli, little cousin.
Starting point is 03:10:28 Please take the game. Watch your mouth. It's Eli's cousin. That ain't Eli. I'm not even going through this with you. Eli got my team two chips against the greatest quarterback in the world. Is that what he did? Yes.
Starting point is 03:10:38 And let's show love to the- Greatest quarterback in the world. The greatest quarterback. Greatest quarterback ever. Ever. Ever. Ever. Yes. I agree. I'm thinking about the argument. Yeah, greatest quarterback in the world. The greatest quarterback. Greatest quarterback ever. To ever. Yeah, ever. Yes.
Starting point is 03:10:45 I agree. I thought you were going to argue. No. Round of applause, man. This hurts, man. Tom Brady's wife made him retire. She made him put his little ball away, bring his ass home. You've been doing this for 22, 23 years,
Starting point is 03:10:59 and I never thought you'd still be this good at it, but. Enough. Dead that shit. I'm rich. You rich. You've won more than any person or team. You got the cleft in your chin. Come sit down, yo.
Starting point is 03:11:13 I know your fucking crazy ass man, Gronk, is waiting on your word. Call that nigga. Text him right now and tell him no. Text Bruce Arians. Because his wife was just looking at the phone when the report came out. Yo, Tom is retiring. Tom came out and was like, nah, I don't know the phone when the report came out yo Tom is retiring Tom came out was like nah
Starting point is 03:11:26 I don't know about that his dad came out said nah we don't know about that she said nigga excuse me no yes you do no you know about that yo
Starting point is 03:11:33 tell him it's true yo couple hours later alright hey man couple days hey you guys couple days Tom Brady says
Starting point is 03:11:42 I've always believed in believed the sport of football is an all-in proposition if a 100% competitive commitment isn't there you won't succeed and success is what I love so much about our game
Starting point is 03:11:56 there's a physical, mental, and emotional challenge every single day that has allowed me to maximize my highest potential and I've tried my very best these past 22 years. There are no shortcuts to success on the field or in life. This is difficult for me to write. See, that let you know his wife did it.
Starting point is 03:12:13 Because he's such a winner, he can't even write the shit he about to write. Actually, he didn't write. She wrote it. Press send, nigga. He wrote it. But here it goes. This is when she came in.
Starting point is 03:12:23 I am not going to make that competitive commitment anymore. I have loved. Yo, shit been real. I loved my career. Now it's time to focus my time and energy on other things that require my attention. I am cool. I don't need no more. I'm done.
Starting point is 03:12:36 I'm done. I don't care. I'm not reading no more of that. His wife made him quit. Yeah. And he gave us 22 years. Excellence. Greatness.
Starting point is 03:12:43 Nothing to say about it. He gave you a little petty in it too. That's what I like. Sprinkle a little petty in it. What is that? So in the announcement, he thanked the Bucs organization, the players, everything, the fans. Coaches.
Starting point is 03:12:57 Everybody. Yeah. No mention of New England. So then New England posted a congratulation retirement, and he just reposted that to his story and said oh yeah I love not oh yeah but
Starting point is 03:13:09 yeah I love New England and they fans too like a little sprinkle a little petty in there sound like but you know they're
Starting point is 03:13:15 gonna do some big shit so yeah but it still could be some petty in here well true I didn't leave on good terms I wanted him to win it huh
Starting point is 03:13:22 I wanted him to win it I always he just won it I mean you wanted him to win back to? I wanted him to win it I always wanted him to win it He just won it You wanted him to win back to back? I wanted him to go out a winner He led the league in the yards He led the league Not that he's not a winner
Starting point is 03:13:31 I'm just saying like He led the league in yards He led the league in touchdowns I think I just wanted him to go out With the chip And that would have just been Fucking fairytale ending
Starting point is 03:13:39 And he might do that If Bruce Arians Don't tell Antonio Brown To pack his shit And get the fuck off my field You are not lying. He might. I agree with that.
Starting point is 03:13:46 You can see where he needed that weapon. But shout out to Tom, man. Thank you for all the fucking aches, pains, heartaches, agonizing losses. You ruined a lot of good Super Bowl nights for me and the squad. You're a Giants fan. You love seeing Tom in the Super Bowl. No, no, no. Not without O's.
Starting point is 03:14:04 Yes, I won. I won as a Giants fan. I love seeing Tom in the Super Bowl. No, no, no. Not without O's. Yes, I won. I won as a Giants fan. I'm saying as a football fan, when you get to Super Bowl time, you're just trying to kick back in your living room
Starting point is 03:14:13 and enjoy the vibe and see a good game. He put me through some stress even in those games. Even games on a dog in the race. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:14:22 Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Tom, man. One of the most impressive careers in professional sports history. He has been playing professional football longer than my son has been alive. And that is only the NFL part of his career. That's amazing. That's amazing. Look at his accolades, though.
Starting point is 03:14:41 15-time Pro Bowl, 7-time Super Bowl champ, 5-time MVP. Like, come on, dog. I don't even got to read the rest. Seven chips is nuts. And he went to a couple more. And he went to one, nine or ten. He went to more. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:14:55 He went to more. Tom is that dude, yo. We don't need you. Y'all don't need us to tell you. Most of y'all saw it as well. I'm honored that I got a chance to witness greatness in my life as hard as it was and to you
Starting point is 03:15:09 young young young young internet fucks don't try to do this down the line and rewrite Tom Tom is Tom cause they do that Alex is trying to get us to do a six hour pod
Starting point is 03:15:20 I see what he's doing he put up some more shit why do you just keep pulling things up for us to give opinions on chill don't even say that out loud though cause they be like yo y'all can do a six hour pod. I see what he's doing. He put up some more shit? Why do you just keep pulling things up for us to give opinions on? Chill, don't even say that out loud though because they be like,
Starting point is 03:15:28 yo, y'all could do a six hour pod. We'll take it. These niggas here? Niggas say, yo, y'all did two hours. This some bullshit. Do you know what
Starting point is 03:15:34 sitting up here for two hours two days after you bought it before? So imagine how you feel about them saying that about your bad album. It was two hours. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:15:44 Yo, I just put mad work into this shit. You hear it in 10 seconds and say, no, it ain't it, dog. Go back. Wait, what? Fam, the foot action news, foot action is closed officially. Right.
Starting point is 03:15:56 So I said, hey, I'm unemployed now. Oh, word. Now you can just do solo Patreons, yo. We can do extra episodes. Fam, what's wrong with y'all? Wow. No. Wow, wow. You get a sleeper that's what you get and wow all right that's not a sleeper it is yeah give him a sleeper let me not waste no time man i'm gonna get right on to it i'm all in my bag all in my bag cold all in my bag All in my bag for you
Starting point is 03:16:26 I'm all in my bag All in my bag, all that I have is for you Yeah, you're the gate key in the bag and it still wasn't a no It's your YY in the bag and it still wasn't a no I gave you me time, we time and it still wasn't a no I've looked all of your lies and it still wasn't a no Say it, don't let it talk to you crazy Me time we time and still what in the still My back fellows fight back Can't get back the son every wasted
Starting point is 03:17:04 Been patient don't give me mistaken, I'm breaking At least I gave it all to you, baby Now I'm up wondering how you sleep at night Honey, I need your heart because you took off with mine Now I'm here waiting, waiting waiting waiting waiting waiting for you you got me going crazy I'm all in my bag, all in my bag, all in my bag for you Gator gate, key in the bag and it still wasn't enough I let you out while you're back and it still wasn't enough I give you me time, we time, and it still wasn't enough
Starting point is 03:18:08 I believe you and your lies, and it still wasn't enough They say, yeah, you felt the words in your core, babe Much as it hurts, you still what I do, babe All in my bag, I'm in my Lady Dior, babe Oh no, babe And it's Jamie Got so much body, you want a seven seas Or six seas, cause you only get Chanel in threes
Starting point is 03:18:30 Give you the words, don't find no way to be mad at me Thought you were trippin' but you're livin' in a fantasy No I'm wondering how you sleep at night Honey I need your heart because you took off with mine Now I've been waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting for you You got me going crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy for you Oh, I'm all in my bag, all in my bag, all in my bag, all that I had
Starting point is 03:19:39 Brand new music from Coltrane featuring Lucky Day, that one is called Bag Hope you fuck with it the same way I did. Lucky, what's good, bro? Hey, yeah, man. Let the fucking pianos keep going at the end. Shout out to both of those brothers. Let the piano get some? Let it all get some.
Starting point is 03:19:55 Go ahead now. All right, here we go. So, hey, now and then, you know, with this this platform you get your friends hitting you up like yo i got one for you and i'm like oh god i know i know bro i know but hey now then somebody hit you with something you're like all right you you you got one so r sent over no no it's not r&b so friend of mine from, she's out of Miami. Her name is Tyasia. And this is her first big record.
Starting point is 03:20:31 It's called One Night Ting featuring Saweetie. Oh, okay. It's your shit? Genius. Genius Hope you get the clue, baby Spend the night, I'm your favorite Now you wanna come around, spend the day with it Simmer down, simmer down, did you live with it? Right after we done, gotta run, don't call my phone With a ring-a-ling-a-ling, keep that ring Sweet like a melon, make the bad boys cling
Starting point is 03:21:16 Cuttin' all ties, cause I know no strings Just a little fling, it's a one-night stand Ring-a-ling-a-ling, keep that ring Sweet like a melon, make the bad boys cling Cuttin' all ties, cause I know no strings Just a lil' bling, it's a one night thing Ah-ah-ah-ah, it's a one night thing It's a one night thing, it's a one night thing Just for one night, it's a one night thing Just for one night, it's a one night thing I'm as pretty, ballin' in me, this thing give me that
Starting point is 03:21:44 Yeah, you got 24 hours So I'm pressin' putty cash I can make the kitty pop I can make the pussy pop But if you shorter than eight inches Then your body's in a camp I wanna playboy Pull up with them diamonds
Starting point is 03:21:54 And design them with my Zayboy I love me a geyser With a dimple that my play toy From the Philippines Make it cream, make it soy soy Back to back years on the Forbes list Bought the trip cash I ain't never seen a mortgage
Starting point is 03:22:05 Always overseas like a bitch got deported Brand new curly and the guts look like oranges Spend the night, I'm your favorite Now you wanna come around, spend the day with it Phone call comes in, of course. Ah, shit. I always wondered if that would ever happen in the middle of a fucking sleeper
Starting point is 03:22:25 but yep that shit slapped him yeah yeah I jokingly told her I'm like yo Rihanna ain't never put no music out and you kind of sound
Starting point is 03:22:34 just pick up right there please might as well take it take it but no shouts to her shouts to Tyja
Starting point is 03:22:39 her whole team over there sweetie on the record that shit is dope sounded good I'm gonna play something off Pap's December Project this is restored with rick ross this is duck a dugger to the tomb i promise you i've been that motherfucker sister wound
Starting point is 03:22:54 they tough but when you see them they sing a different tune everybody real to a real one walk in the room what run up on you with the 45 you niggas doomed All you hear is boom, shaka laka shaka boom You thought I was gon' stop, use up a phone Asshole, you know what they say about those who assume Fake friends mad, you gon' feed em with a spoon But when you shoot em, the doctor gon' feed em through a tube Niggas say they loyal, but do they really know what that mean? That mean behind they back you don't talk about your regime Your man gettin' money mean behind they back you don't talk about your regime your man getting money in you not you don't scheme you just happy to finally see him live his dream your boss go broke you still ride with him king you don't pack your bags and go jump on another
Starting point is 03:23:35 team in 2021 who released more songs than me don't give a about your crown that belong with me i used to hold your hand taught you how to cross the street How ironic is it that you're crossing me? Feel alive and living large, kneeling in the mosque Time to tell, I say a prayer, get another watch Hundred cars, my soldiers march, what the bumper clock? Moving right, I'm moving like we're not in Bogota Krim and Kelly, they want a title that I didn't dabble
Starting point is 03:24:03 Bob Saget, my family matters, pockets getting fatter Whole of horses is Colin Zab, forty portions My nigga Ricky Rose That's Restored, Papoose, and Rick Ross Off the December Project Which is out now What you got for us Ish? Come on Aki You just gonna catch me with no headset on No nothing
Starting point is 03:24:39 My bad What you got for us? Artist's name is Arian Shah Song is To The Ends Let's hear it Swerving through the hills, she loves it when I'm dangerous Life is different when they know you gon' be famous They don't do a budget, we don't do exchanges Matter of fact, no, we don't do no conversations
Starting point is 03:25:18 You ain't talking about the only thing I'm chasing I can't fuck with you, I got high expectations Yeah, I'm on the road cause I can't be complacent Running out of time, I'm running out of patience Left my girl at home, I think I might replace her Coming home with you cause I don't wanna face her Put my phone away cause I don't wanna say some That I know she'll escalate anyway Shawty, drive me to the ends, yeah
Starting point is 03:25:44 If you're lonely at the top, I don't want no friends, yeah What's the name? Don't say a God, don't you make me sing, yeah I just want a little fun, don't make me repent, yeah I just found another pillow, think I'ma pop it Still depending on the drug, she said I should stop it I've been cutting all the snakes, cutting all my losses I don't do it out of love, send me money, fuzz it I'm coming down, I swear I'm coming to my senses
Starting point is 03:26:10 All these girls just wanna add to my expenses I can't trust these bitches, can't get real addresses If I let her stay the night, I'm gon' be stressing Anything I want, she'll do it for attention I get paranoid, cause I'm a no obsession I can't fuck her if I can't trust her intentions Gotta let her go cause I don't make exceptions Left my girl at home, I think I might replace her Come and home with you cause I don't wanna face her
Starting point is 03:26:37 Put my phone away cause I don't wanna say something That I know she'll escalate anyway Shawty, drive me to the ends, yeah It get lonely at the top, I don't want no friends, yeah What's an angel to a god, don't you make me sin, yeah I just want a little fun, don't make me repent, yeah I just found another pillow, think I'ma pop it Still depending on the joke, she said I should stop it
Starting point is 03:26:59 I've been cutting all the snakes, cutting all my losses I don't do it out of love, send me my deposit I'm gonna ride with me to the hills, yeah Moving to the top, I don't want no friends, yeah And girl to God, don't you make me sing, yeah I just want a little, don't make me repent, yeah I just found another pill, and I'ma pop it Depending on the drugs, I know I should stop it
Starting point is 03:27:24 Cutting all the the snakes cutting all my losses out of love send me my departed there's aaron shah to the ends nice song before we get out of here i have to say rest in peace to chesley Christ. I hope I'm pronouncing her name correctly as K-R-Y-S-T former Miss USA and correspondent for Extra allegedly self-transitioned. She was 30 years old.
Starting point is 03:27:54 So we want to send our condolences, our thoughts, prayers, and love to her family, friends, fans, and loved ones, as well as Moses Mosley. Moses Mosley, actor from The Walking Dead. Passed away at 31. They don't know the circumstances.
Starting point is 03:28:08 Apparently, he went missing recently. No details aside from that. Totally understandable. I get it. Again, our hearts go out to their families. Wow, man. Nobody wants to start a month this way. 30 and 31. Yeah. Wow, man. Nobody wants to start a month this way. 30 and 31.
Starting point is 03:28:26 Yeah. Kids. Kids. Kids. Or young adults. Young adults. Yeah. Young adults.
Starting point is 03:28:34 Not going to say kids, but just a short life. Yeah. A short life. I want to thank you gentlemen for the longest pod that I've probably ever done. We had one longer before. How many? Not many. I guess that's their payback.
Starting point is 03:28:54 Huh? They was cursing us out the other day for a two-hour and something pod. I'm cursing y'all out. No, they were cursing us out for two hours and change. I'm cursing you out for the four-hour. You wasn't here. What do you think of that? You wasn't here. The fans not.
Starting point is 03:29:09 No, I'm sure the fans are having a blast. Let's sit here another four hours now. Exactly. It goes. Oh, Lord, yo. Yo, keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there We'll do the same for y'all
Starting point is 03:29:28 Love and light Until next time, we bid you adieu Farewell, adios, cerebro, dirci, hasta la vista So long, goodbye, and all that good stuff And do remember Hey, bye And don't go from me Make me feel better I gotta get back in the groove, yo And do remember... Hey!
Starting point is 03:29:46 Hey! Bro, I gotta get back in the booth, yo. I just missed screaming on Adlibs. You ain't got to scream. You can scream at home. Nah, nah, nah. I gotta scream. Hey!
Starting point is 03:29:59 Yeah, you remember that. I don't do that. Uh, now where was I? Adios, Riverdurchie, blah, blah, blah. Life is a series of moments. And moments pass, so let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And last but not least, you niggas that's out there getting botched BBLs and getting your stomach done, risking your fucking health for a little six and eight pack. Niggas look stupid in them fucking silk shirts.
Starting point is 03:30:24 Straighten up, all right? Your vibrations got me shirt straight up I somebody had to say it man you niggas ain't just home doing sit-ups lastly I know go ahead and call up dr. pants talk dr. Miami I hear they make a real good pussy in Thailand It go Yo, the baddies are insecure The stagnant women wanna travel And the closed-minded women want you to teach them things Grab a ibuprofen and enjoy your headache Until the next time, we will be back
Starting point is 03:31:04 Wait a minute Uh-oh That's all I need Grab a ibuprofen and enjoy your headache until the next time we will be back Well, I need honey we'll get out of here we got about 20 seconds to let this go It's the same when this happened is to put the listener and alert This is like that boss This will you ice like that boss. This is for you, Ice. Come on, yo. Come on. It's him.
Starting point is 03:31:33 You remember. You remember. I remember. Nah, you were there for it, nigga. I know. You remember 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. I'll do that. I'll play with it. Y'all on the jam out there.
Starting point is 03:31:40 I hope y'all enjoyed the super long pod. Thank you, Ish. Yo, Ish, what do you think about the plastic Fiji come then? This nigga will unpack a fucker's motherfucker. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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