The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 513 | "Moment of Clarity"

Episode Date: February 26, 2022

A ton to cover on this week's pod, Joe recaps Kanye's latest listening party (12:35). Next, the crew gives updates on the Tory Lanez and DJ Akademiks (26:10), Joe addresses Slaughterhouse's breakup (5...4:30), Summer Walker (1:20:00), Meek Mill's issue with his producer (1:42:20), and MORE!   Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks Joe | Unreleased Slaughterhouse Song from “Glasshouse” Album Ice | Charlie Wilson - “No Stoppin Us” (Ft. Johnny Gill, Babyface, & K-Ci Hailey) Parks | Conway The Machine - “So Much More” Ish | Russ - “WHAT ARE YALL”

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Starting point is 00:00:00 that kind of falls in line with my overall my overarching point what's that i'd be dead ass right about something and try to tell somebody i love and care about which would be ice and he argued me down called me me names, threaten the friendship. That's stupid, yo. Only for a few days later for Joe to be proven correct. I'm gonna let you get that off, but you wasn't correct.
Starting point is 00:00:35 And when you carried that weight, it gets heavy. I hate this. It's a heavy cross to bear. But here we are. But you were I hate this video. It's a heavy cross to bear. But here we are. But you were right about this time. Ice and the Fat Girl
Starting point is 00:00:52 strip club. I'm still right. You went again and found something for ice there? But you can be right when you're wrong. You know that?
Starting point is 00:01:04 Yeah. I was still right for that night I don't even know if I could talk about it because there's this thing where I don't come in here and talk about any of us having fun and we can't have fun that could get tumultuous in life when you us having fun, you know, and we can't have fun. Yeah. That could get tumultuous.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I'm going to tell you when you're having fun. Cause we're not the man that you are. That's honestly the answer, man. It's just fun. Police. Nevermind. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Yo, move on. I ain't even letting you niggas do that today. I don't want no, we did enough. Got it. But now parks, let me tell you. So, we can't do it. We did enough. We did enough. Got it. But nah, Parks, let me tell you. So you remember my brother was in town.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Yeah. Shout out to Ars. And he had an event. He was hosting at what me and Ish called the F***ing Strip Club. So Chew called it. Go ahead. You didn't call it the F***ing... Time stamp killer. Yeah, you want to drag me under that train?
Starting point is 00:02:02 That's not even a bus. That's the train. G.S.K. Yeah, you want to drag me under that train? That's not even a bus. That's the train. G.S.K. At a strip club that we went to previously, me and Ish did not have a good time.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Sure. Is that good? On a hot Friday night, the body preferences were different. There were a lot of my type of women in there. Shapely mamas. Hey. And these guys, you know, they teeter on a different side.
Starting point is 00:02:29 So they didn't have a blast. So they killed the strip club. See, but they didn't just kill the people working that night. They came here. Hey, the TV was crooked. The TV was crooked. Listen, it's not that.
Starting point is 00:02:41 I think that's lit. No. Break your neck while you go ahead and do it. No one wants a perfect strip club. Yo, the Red Bull already. I think that's lit. I think that's lit. No. Break your neck while you. No one wants a perfect strip club. Yo, the Red Bull already have you riled up. Now you got to twist your neck. That's why I don't fuck with you. Because me and you done been in some spots.
Starting point is 00:02:53 We've been in some spots. I'm not disagreeing with you. What I'm saying is this. This is what happened. Break it down. Friday night. Unpack it. Yeah, we go to one spot.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Yeah. And the spot was all right. But we told this. No, I'm about to tell you. I know the spot that we went to. Yeah. And the spot was alright. But we told this. No, I'm about to tell you. I know the spot that we went to. It'd be having a mitten here. You know, you could look at the lineups and stuff
Starting point is 00:03:11 on your phone. It has a mitten here. So when Joe said, yo, let's go to the other spot, I'm like, alright, cool. I'm with it. It just so happens that particular day it must have been an all-star Game, Super Bowl, Easter, Christmas, all of it rolled up in one.
Starting point is 00:03:28 The A-team won there? We got the G-team. That's you saying that? We went to the G-League. So therefore... So they shit it on the strip club? Yes. I didn't say they don't be having NBA talent. We just went
Starting point is 00:03:44 there. I didn't see it. Yeah. Load management. There you go. There you go. There you go. Ice ended up going to that same strip club on a different night. I went with him.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Ice's face looked different. Saw some icy ones in the air. All he kept saying was, we're going to talk about this. All these girls excited. Ooh, and I can't hide it. I'm so icy. So I ain't going to hold you. I got a text on my phone.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I wasn't going to rattle you. You my nigga. But you're going to rattle me anyway. Go ahead and give it up. Nigga said, yo, you in the street tonight? I'm like, nah. He said, yo, I got a whole new look on the Blah Blah Blah Club. I said, where?
Starting point is 00:04:29 He said, like whenever this thing was. They was in there. Yeah, yeah, they in here. No, they was in there that night. No, that was a good night. Plethora. Plethora? No, it was a lot.
Starting point is 00:04:37 See, and that's why you can't shit on a strip club for what they do on a certain night. Yeah, we know that. Friday night, you got to rely on people to know their audience and who they want to see on a Friday night. That's true. But Wednesday night is a big night, too. Actually, Wednesday night is my favorite strip club night. Yes. I don't strip club no more like that.
Starting point is 00:04:55 So it was, I don't know what the night was. Yeah, not me neither. Dead ass. Not me neither. Just once a week now, I assume. Because you bump into them women now. It's like, how much longer are you going to do that? It's like, uh.
Starting point is 00:05:08 How long are they open for? I think I had a nice little run. I think I got a nice runway ahead of me to still do this. It's about to get nice out. I'm just saying, niggas be 47, 48 still. That is true. Like, women want to age us and shame us. Fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:05:23 But anyway, Ice had a good time. Had a great time. And I had a good time watching him. Did you get any videos? No, no, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that to him. I think I've seen you do that to him before. No, you've definitely done that before.
Starting point is 00:05:34 You count it. I have a reply, but I can't give it. Fair. You count it. I think the situations are different. I think that's how much, once the blast meter gets past a certain point, I don't tape. I'm not taping. Oh, it was like that.
Starting point is 00:05:48 You having a blast. He was all the way up. You having a blast. I ain't going to tape the blast, man. It's corny. You had your rocket shoes on? My brother's last night in town. I ain't seen him in a minute.
Starting point is 00:06:00 It was all for Ars. Yeah, it was all for Ars. You're throwing a Blue Hunnit. For Arsenal. For Ars. Got you. That nigga us just on the blue hundreds for arsenal for ours got you that's a nigga had fun on the strip arsenal boy i'll tell you that one all right we got a pod to do yes sir we have a pod to do man shit to talk about i was trying to get here on wednesday night thursday morning that's how much shit it was to get to. And then it just didn't stop. No. I wanted to come back Tuesday night.
Starting point is 00:06:26 This week kind of felt like 2014, 2013 Twitter to me. Yeah. Y'all got close to it this week. And Ice, you hit it on the head. The more serious things get in the world, some people just get to joking even more, man. Yeah, we're going to joke. That's the way some of us cope. Otherwise, I'll be miserable.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I'm going to get these jokes off. So I put my disclaimer out there. I'm on Twitter to lie and joke. It's hard to joke watching CNN, man. Yeah, exactly. It's hard to joke watching CNN. It is. It will depress you.
Starting point is 00:07:00 All right, so we're not starting with that. No, ever. Because I don't think Putin is playing around. I don't think he is. And then Biden got up there and said, we froze the accounts. Okay. We're going to talk later. Second largest bank in the refro.
Starting point is 00:07:21 You don't think they took the money out of their dog? I didn't even want to say no. Come on, let me talk about it later. Yeah, let's please. All right. Nah. Mm-mm. Wow.
Starting point is 00:07:35 There we go. No joking. Ain't no love in the heart of the city Ain't no love in the heart of town Ain't no love in the show no forbidden Mic check, mic check, one, two, one, two We here Hope everybody's feeling good, feeling great, one, two, one, two We here Hope everybody's feeling good, feeling great out there, salutations When you were mine, oh, I was feeling so good
Starting point is 00:08:15 Shout out to the lovers out there Shout out to the creators, the rappers Entertainers, everybody covering up, drumming, man When you're gone, you know the sun don't shine. Sometimes you gotta laugh to get through it. Come to City Hall, to the county line. And I swash it, ain't no love in the heart of the city. Nigga found this sample and felt like Christmas.
Starting point is 00:08:41 What? What? No bullshit. Back when digging through samples was like an art. Like when you found one. Still is. Yeah, it is. It is.
Starting point is 00:08:50 You're right. You found this and felt like you was in heaven. Ain't no one. Must be way too high. Uh. Uh. Listen. First the fat boys break up
Starting point is 00:09:05 Now every day I wake up, somebody got a problem with home What's up, y'all niggas all fed up cause I got a little cheddar And my records moving out the store Young fuckers spitting at me, young rappers getting at me My nigga big, but dig to this shit exactly More money, more problems, gotta move carefully Cause faggots hate when you get their money like athletes young It's ice grilling me. Oh, you're not feeling me fine. It cost you nothing pay me no mind
Starting point is 00:09:31 I'm on my grind cousin. They got time for hope everybody's having a good weekend. I all need hugs Inclement weather in New York hope everybody's driving safe. It's two mil. I'm just trying move three get a couple chicks Get out there bite with dreams hope for the get out there, buy what you need, hopefully it's out there. It go. I don't want much, fuck, I drove every car. Word. Some nice cooked food, some nice clean drawers.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Word. Bird ass niggas, I don't mean to ruffle y'all. I know you waiting in the wing, but I'm doing my thing. Where's the love? Ain't no love in the heart of town. I said, where's the love? Ain't no love in the heart of time I said where's the love? Ain't no love in the heart of time Microphone check one two what is this
Starting point is 00:10:38 welcome to episode 513 of the joe button podcast i am your humble gracious grateful and highly favorite host joe button here with a few of my nearest and dearest parks is here ish is here ice is here young boys in the back, y'all there? Yeah Alright, good, good How's everybody doing? Good Pretty good How's your week?
Starting point is 00:10:52 Busy as hell Long week Where you going, nigga? It's a long week Nah, that shit was mad busy And then the weather was great Only to wake up to snow today Yeah
Starting point is 00:11:01 Yeah, the weather was like 67 And then it was ice, rain, snow, all types of shit. They trying to get you sick. Facts. Yeah. They trying to get you sick out here. They just out there
Starting point is 00:11:09 playing with the weather machine. I agree. But I do like that about New York. Nigga, that ain't New York. That's everywhere. You like the up, down, up seesaw shit?
Starting point is 00:11:18 I do. It's winter. It's winter in New York. I know, I know, I know. I smell spring the other day. Yeah, you didn't expect that to last though. Yeah's winter in New York. I know, I know, I know. I smelled spring the other day. Yeah, you didn't expect that to last though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Some roses was coming. At least let it last two days. No, but winter's long this year, right? Because the groundhog smoked hookah early. What the groundhog? He was dazed. Yeah, the groundhog ordered some hookah. He was dazed. They changed up the method how we know now.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Groundhog come out and start partying. Where do we get some of this stuff from? That's a very good question. I don't know, yo. We really used to do that shit when we was kids. And how do I know
Starting point is 00:11:56 that that's the same groundhog? It's not. It's definitely not. Y'all just looking at groundhogs? Just random groundhogs. It's got to be a reason that I'm stupid. Because I looked that's hard. There's got to be a reason that I'm stupid. Because I looked this up before.
Starting point is 00:12:08 There's a reason. For the Groundhog thing? Yeah. Theory? Yeah. What'd it say? It's probably the Pagans. I don't fucking remember.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Man, look it up. How much Perk 30s I took. Want me to remember the Groundhog theory? No. All right, so everybody's cool. Everybody had a good week. A lot to get to. I tried to get here as soon as I could because, wow, you just get one of those.
Starting point is 00:12:30 God just puts a pod in front of you sometimes. He really does. So where would you gentlemen like to begin? Ice on the way home from the last pod was glued to the Kanye stream. On the way home, once I got home, because it ain't start. I was already the entire ride home. I had my phone on the way home once I got home because it ain't start I was already the entire ride home I had my phone
Starting point is 00:12:47 on the stream they just had the screen up with the crowd no they had a circle on the screen and a heart beating you just heard a heart beating
Starting point is 00:12:54 the entire time for about two hours I couldn't find that I didn't realize it was on the stem player site oh it was there too where were you watching I watched it on YouTube
Starting point is 00:13:03 oh okay YouTube I went to apps yeah live stream. Yeah, live stream. When we were in the car on the way back, I had my phone. Yeah, I remember. But yeah, I got home, started playing the game, left the phone sitting there, and then
Starting point is 00:13:13 eventually just heard music. It wasn't no count. There's nothing. It just started. I was like, all right. Now, this wasn't streamed on Apple? No. No.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Okay. Not Apple. It was Amazon's twitch channel had it YouTube had it and the stem player website had it that's it yeah by the time I found it was too late so you have to fill me in pause so he played he played the album or this current version of the album so I keep trying to explain to people that this is not rough one yeah this is rough one yeah i'm so happy i didn't go out there oh they you they want you to go i'm not going to listen to your ruffs to your ruffs and that's what he does it's
Starting point is 00:13:58 not a knock he's been doing this since pablo pablo it been before that. Yeah, that's true with Yeezy. He was doing that. Yeah. So it's not a knock to him. What he did, he just opened up the listening session. Because that's what a real listening session used to be. Playing your song, letting people hear what you're working on, what it sounds like, where I'm at with it. It don't necessarily mean it's the final product.
Starting point is 00:14:22 He opened up the A&R meeting. When the hell was the listening session at? Usually the listening it's the final product he opened up like the A&R meeting when the hell was the listening session at usually the listening session was the final product I've been to some listening sessions what year 16 yeah exactly 15, 16
Starting point is 00:14:37 after Joe went out there and got all the bumps and bruises for playing unreleased music then it becomes a thing yeah no we talking about earlier. Listening parties was for the final. Yeah. We can't even schedule, we can't even book your listening party
Starting point is 00:14:50 because you don't have a final. Gotcha. Because we got media people coming here and it needs to line up. It wasn't always this internet shit. It needed to line up. Right. Gotcha, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:15:00 But I think this is more genius shit. I like it. I love this. Creating a revenue stream From playing your roughs Word up And not only that I can't knock it
Starting point is 00:15:09 I'm getting paid You know for whatever The deal I got with this stream You talking about shit three times Plus I'm selling out an arena The Donda one He did it three times Yeah
Starting point is 00:15:16 He sold out three separate times In arenas So you talking about A different type of money You got sodas and popcorn You know what I'm saying Yeah this is different Big business And merch Don't forget You know him The merch lounge was through the roof so you talking about a different type of money you got sodas and popcorn you know what I'm saying like you know how big big business is being conducted
Starting point is 00:15:27 don't forget you know him the merch lounge was through the roof I think this is genius I think this is genius it is this is how
Starting point is 00:15:33 this is how you get wealthy he's betting on himself capitalizing off of himself and whatever deals he's doing he's doing them kind of facilitating the deal
Starting point is 00:15:42 like I'm dictating what we gonna do here right in conjunction with the Netflix drop it's just all very timely yeah He's doing them, kind of facilitating the deal. Like, I'm dictating what we're going to do here. Right. In conjunction with the Netflix drop. It's just all very timely. All dope. All very timely. With the Balenciaga and Gap drop.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Like, he got a lot of shit dropping. He got a lot going on. But that's what told me that we wasn't getting no new music. Because I've been watching you run around for the last however many months. It takes time to put this together this together yeah um he just got a lot going on i didn't think that he had time to be in a studio with all new music that soon after a release so i do think that some of these were skeletons from the last project leftovers we know migos went over there we know a few names went over there uh and i can't hear it
Starting point is 00:16:24 i can't wait to hear how it's put together. Which one of the records that I love the most, again, we know these are not finished, but the We Did It Kid with Baby Keem and Migos. And one of the lines in there, I believe it was Quavo, one of them said, I'm pushing P. Now, you know, that's kind of a new phrase. So this could be a newer verse. Could be. Could be. So this is a work in progress we're not getting this no time so dog just my guess is april yeah final album is a month monthish i've been
Starting point is 00:16:53 telling you my final fast though dog it is it is but it isn't if these are skeletons like he was working on he gave us what 27 on the first project So ain't no telling how many he had in the top to pick that 27 out of the top. Yeah, I could go back and touch these up. And not for nothing, Ye is seemingly always working. He has a whole bunch of team of different producers, writers. He can't begin no sleep. He has enough stuff to pull from, is what I'm saying. Like this right here, the burning house, the water, the pool, that shit take months
Starting point is 00:17:25 and months to coordinate. Ain't no overnight shit. Yeah. Yeah, this is beautiful. You know what I'm saying? Like that shit is not no overnight shit.
Starting point is 00:17:34 He can't be getting no sleep, yo. This nigga. You think you want sleep? Yeah. I know his assistants are going through it boy oh no you want to talk about who was going through it
Starting point is 00:17:47 I already fired the whole sound team since y'all done watching let me tell you what happened so he played the Donda 2 after the last song which was a record featuring Soulja Boy then the choir it was called First Time in a Long Time then the choir came out
Starting point is 00:18:04 and they did a couple of records and he started doing Donda 1 songs then the choir it was called First Time in a Long Time then the choir came out and they did a couple of records and he started doing down to one songs but it was like a concert pretty much so like the
Starting point is 00:18:12 he was actually performing these records you know usually with the listening session he's just playing the music he's walking around or he might mouth the lyrics or something
Starting point is 00:18:19 this one he was performing and the mic wasn't right I don't know if it wasn't no t-pain on the mic but whatever it was i seen the little clip of him throwing the shit yeah but that was far in so he had features come out to perform he had a whole show with the bad sound and even there like fabio came out he said fabio was fighting his verse the whole time and that sucks when the sound is bad it was terrible
Starting point is 00:18:47 like there was a delay you don't know it he could Fabio tried to catch it he realized oh there's a delay there's always a delay shit that little show
Starting point is 00:18:54 we did up in Elmira this weekend like they didn't have the monitors right so when you're up there rapping it sounds like there's a delay cause you're hearing
Starting point is 00:19:00 the music going all the way to the back wall and coming all the way back it's gonna be a delay if they don't have the monitors right. Well, yeah, the monitors were not right. And immediately after that, you know, the internet is going to internet. The credits roll.
Starting point is 00:19:14 They start picking out the names. Oh, man. And they went and attacked their Twitters and Instagrams. They had the squares up there. Poor guys. Yeah, they had a long night. I saw them killing, like, someone that was credited sound design. And I'm like, that's not his fault.
Starting point is 00:19:28 He's the one that makes all the swooshy sounds and fucking explosion sounds and all that shit. They're all wearing it. That poor guy's together. One of the dudes posted on his Instagram wasn't me. Right. Like, yo, leave me alone. But yeah, then he fired the whole sound team afterwards. Understandably so.
Starting point is 00:19:42 But he was upset. You know, for a perfectionist like Kanye, someone who's, I put on these amazing shows, my sound team afterwards. Understandably so. But he was upset. You know, for a perfectionist like Kanye, someone who's, I put on these amazing shows, my sound fucked up. Nah, and people paid their money. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Fam, this is what I, I'm known for this. Even when he was just touring regular concerts, Kanye's show is like an event. It is. And I forgot that if you got,
Starting point is 00:19:59 if you got deals with YouTube and Amazon and Twitch and all these other places that it's streaming, And this is the first one. Yep. Don DeJuan did three of them, right? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah. So you want to make niggas look forward to the second and the third joint. That makes sense. So, yeah. It looks amazing, though. He was upset. Like, it was to the point where you could hear the TV track playing. And he's just standing there
Starting point is 00:20:26 mad as hell so you know the TV track is just a very low low vocal low vocal of certain points in the song
Starting point is 00:20:34 you hear that and he's just standing there mad then the feature tries to rap but he should be mad though yes yeah like I don't think people really understand
Starting point is 00:20:42 how bad that is I got Marilyn Manson out here. Elon Musk is out here. There's too much money involved in this. There's way too much going on right now for this. Yeah. And I'm Kanye. This don't happen to me.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Right. No, and again, I'm sure these niggas practiced and rehearsed this shit for weeks and weeks and weeks. Yeah. And you got the money to get the best fucking in-ears in the world, the best mics in the world. Yeah, he was hot. There's not really a good explanation for that. It's ain't SOBs, nigga.
Starting point is 00:21:11 No disrespect to SOBs, but this is not that. This is live streaming around the world. My shit gotta sound correct. Yeah, but when you introduce live streaming, you really gotta have the sound.
Starting point is 00:21:21 That's a fact. It gets tricky. It gets tricky. It's tough. Yeah. Remember, this is new stuff this is new technologies are not really caught up for this and he's coming off but again coming off of the first listening sessions they were amazing even the sound we were getting damn near cd quality sound that's true from a live stream we were ripping them and listening to them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:45 And I didn't understand how that happened. I'm like, no, there's no way this shit sounds like this in there. Are you playing a separate track
Starting point is 00:21:52 straight to the live stream or something? Yes. They should be. And it was amazing. We didn't get a lot of that. Seems like Mike Dean might have been missed
Starting point is 00:22:01 a little bit. Probably so. Although he doesn't do, I don't think he does the live, so maybe I will. No, he did the live one for don't think he does the live, so maybe I'm wrong. No, he did the live one for the last one. The last one, they got mad at him. Yeah, he got mad at him.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Oh. So. Well, we're getting Fabio's album soon. Yeah. And I'll assume that we're getting Kanye's album soon. Yeah, I would say the next month. I got it coming to April. It's not coming to April.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Well, I didn't hear next month. I got it coming to April. It's not coming to April. Well, I didn't hear all the 16 songs or whatever. I just heard whatever you played for me today. Who here is going to be the first person to rock the Kanye Gap Balenciaga line? You. Y'all think I'm going to walk around dressed like a bat? You can be Batman.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Okay. Look what y'all think of me, yo. Actually, Ice loves Batman, so it'll probably be Ice. Ice don't love Balenciaga, though, so. You don't want to be Balenciaga Batman? No, sir. No, sir. You better not love it.
Starting point is 00:22:58 They'll have your ass. I'm cool. Yeah, I'm not going to wear this. But I support it. Some of y'all are going to wear this, though. I know y'all are. I just can't say you're not going to just wear nothing in the line. They might come out with some dope shit.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I'm not wearing nothing that they showed on here. The black hoodie ain't that bad. So it should be the one wearing the most. Here's our answer right there. I'm just saying. All right, we figured it out. No, we got it. No, we got it.
Starting point is 00:23:19 It's cool. It kind of looks like the hoodie you got on. Like a little bit. And you threw the J's yo what's up yo it's him it's Friday yo what's up
Starting point is 00:23:28 honestly tell me I don't know what you're talking about alright then never mind I have on a sweatsuit and some sneakers you look good I think people could only hope to look
Starting point is 00:23:36 thank you bro look this way at your age like if I could throw J's on and still like do it you had the barber put some paint in there you did some Beijing.
Starting point is 00:23:45 A little bit. And you could throw J's on. You just opt out for the Tom Fords, Balenciagas, you know, stuff like that. J's a little beneath you. Yeah, you know. Jersey City days was long ago. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Moving right along. Thank you. See what we got to do, ass. Moving right along. Y'all not going to pick with me today. Y'all already know that this is a difficult time for me. I agree with you. So, Ice, you're the only one, I think, that heard the whole album.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I can't judge it because it's all unfinished music. It ain't no album. That's what I'm saying. People keep saying, yo, give me your take on this album. I'm like, bro, these are unfinished records. Yeah, he's saying it's spots in there where you could tell somebody else's verses coming. It's blank verses, dude. It's blank verses.
Starting point is 00:24:23 It's Ye going, eh, eh, eh, eh. Like, is he just trying to, you know. Yeah, it's like, what you call them? Refs. Refs. Refs. Refs. It's like when you kind of fake what you want it to sound like, and then you fill in the
Starting point is 00:24:32 words later. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah, this is. You can't judge this. I'm not judging this. Like I said, I like the Migos feature. I like the future in Travis Scott joints.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I know it's going to be so much more to this when it's done that I'm not paying this no mind I tell you what though I would love for Drake to be on Selfish it just sounds like him I would love for that to happen he definitely going to have a Drake feature I would hope so
Starting point is 00:25:00 he has to that's the record if he is going to have one. That's the one. A lot of people have been telling me there was past tension between Triple X and Drake, so it probably won't happen. I don't know anything about that. But just listening to the songs, that's the one he sounds perfect on. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Okay, well, thank you. Yeah, we'll keep... When Listening 2 Session come out and you hear these extra features and these songs sound different, we'll keep when listening to session come out and you hear these extra features and these songs sound different we'll talk about it some more then and as we predicted it was available through bootleg oh yeah I got the whole joint right here in the next as soon as it hit the stem player
Starting point is 00:25:36 I was like okay cool hit the button and the entire album we do not promote bootlegging on this this podcast we definitely don't promote bootlegging but it's gonna happen you can know it exists. Yeah, you gotta know what's gonna happen. You can acknowledge it.
Starting point is 00:25:48 They bootleg our Patreon episodes. We know. They do. They do. The game is the game. You can't stop the game. Yeah, you can't stop them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:59 You gotta just work with them. In the digital world, once it's there, it's there. That's it. Yeah. All right, what else is super important? You guys want to tackle the big one?
Starting point is 00:26:11 I thought you would do it. Pause. Go ahead. Well, you know, there was a big Twitter hubbub about... Hubbub. He pulled the white out. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:26:25 The white came over. He turned white in a heartbeat. Why are you so white? I'm not tackling this. Why? Because. But we didn't even ask your opinion on it. You did.
Starting point is 00:26:34 You told me to tackle it. No, but you introduced it. You jumped in. There was a hubbub. I don't even know what that is. I ain't never heard that one before, dog. Who started it? Academics?
Starting point is 00:26:48 Came out with some court information regarding the Tory Lanez Megastallion case. Introduce it, man. Don't ask me. Who knows how it started? I don't know. I don't know. I came out with saying he saw some reports from the official court documents or something.
Starting point is 00:27:07 He got discovery, naturally. Yeah. But then saying that a DNA expert said that there was no DNA at all on the weapon. Uh-huh. Or it was inconclusive, I guess. Yeah, I don't know. But then they had released a report saying that that wasn't true. All this shit is confusing to me, honestly. I don't know but then they had released a report saying that that wasn't true so all this shit
Starting point is 00:27:25 is confusing to me honestly I don't know what to believe anymore I mean I think everybody's lying
Starting point is 00:27:31 I'm gonna tell you what was hilarious to me though and this is the only my only take on this so the person uh
Starting point is 00:27:37 her name was Nancy Dillon I don't know who the fuck that is she's a reporter for Rolling Stone but she was in
Starting point is 00:27:43 the courthouse shout out to her so she so when Act said what he said she said that's not true there was absolutely zero mention of dna at all in the uh there was zero mention of dna at the tory lane's hearing today right and then came right back and said, okay, update. This is what they said. We're in a process of actually retaining an expert with respect to DNA. So I stopped there and just bust out laughing because that sounds like there is a mention of DNA.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Right. When you just said, you know for a fact there was zero mention. So I'm just getting a laugh out of it. I don't care. Thoughts and prayers. Thoughts and prayers indeed. I don't know what to make of this shit anymore, bro. April something is when it happens.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Someone would put out a video or something. A lot went on this week. It did. All right, I'm up. I'm up. Oh, this sucks ass. Wednesday, you're ready to come in here. We're using all the white terms.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Yeah. No, you took the cake. Hubbub. Hubbub. Hubbub. Hubbub. Hubbub. Hubbub, yeah. That's why I tossed it to you, though, so we could get hubbub. What do you say about something when you've already said everything there is to say about it?
Starting point is 00:28:56 And that's the challenge you run into as a podcaster. I have, I think I've unpacked this already, and- It's just a waiting game. Here we are. This is in court, people. Pre-trial. Some of us know what pre-trial is. You get all the evidence.
Starting point is 00:29:14 You see what's going on. You weigh your options both sides. You move forward or you don't. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a way for Torrey's name to ever be exonerated. I've shared that already. Meg has her team of supporters and fans, as she should. And it's none of our jobs to call it. So, I mean, I don't have to come in here and they're going to call this.
Starting point is 00:29:36 We're going to see this. This is going to play out at some point. So we don't have to have this Internet thing we do where we just like battle opinions. Hey, I feel like opinions hey i feel like this i feel like this because we favor different people like right we don't have to get into and this is this kind of goes to the uh the thought process of oh i called it or i said it first or i you know what i mean like i want to be right and be the first one to say something yeah yeah i don't want to get into any of that there's like a community of people that believe that
Starting point is 00:30:02 joe budden and his checkered past is just against meg and i'm not like i'm not against anybody i don't have a horse in this race it's just my job to come in here and talk about it like my my take is that was pretty good sometimes you're good yeah it's lose lose what do you mean like it's just lose lose for us as a community as a people it's lose lose yeah there's here. There's no win that's going to come from this. Let's just say hypothetically, on the far left side, he gets found guilty of whatever. We lose as a community and as a people. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:30:35 I just think it's nothing good to ever come from this because we will never know what took place because both of their stories are contrastly different. Right. So we won't win. They won't even win. You get what I'm saying? Like, it's just a bad situation. He tweeted a day after all the mess that, yo, the sad part is, like, we just lose.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Like, you put a famous black woman and a famous black man against each other. He alluded to her not really knowing what happened, but she's been fed a story he said it's not her fault and this is where division comes from it's kind of deep but i mean maybe it's a bad time to hear that from him because he's caught up in this so some people feel like he still shouldn't be saying a word and while that may be true that's hard when you see a little bit of light at the end of a tunnel and you've been quiet for two years with a gag order and you see somebody else now,
Starting point is 00:31:27 which would be Ack, kind of saying things for you and you could kind of get around it and point to those things. Hey, what he's saying is truth. I can't lie. If I was accused of something
Starting point is 00:31:37 and I didn't do it hypothetically, if he didn't do it, I would be hard pressed to not come out and say, yo, I didn't do that shit. Well, remember, you would say that, but if I'm him, one of the first things not come out and say, yo, I didn't do that shit. Well, remember that. You would say that, but if I'm him... One of the first things
Starting point is 00:31:48 they attacked him on was, yo, if I didn't do that shit, I would just say that. That's not how court goes. That's not how court goes. A lot of these fans are just looking at the I need this right now. Right. They want this resolved yesterday. No, they really wanted to go back and forth so they could have something to talk about.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Well, yeah, probably. To be honest. But if I'm him at this juncture, I'm as quiet as a church mouse. Especially if I'm winning in court, I'm shutting up. I don't want to sway anybody. I don't want to come off as pompous. I don't want to come off as arrogant. I'm going to shut my fucking mouth.
Starting point is 00:32:22 If I'm winning in court, I'm shutting up. It's hard, though, Ish. You're right. He did it. He did it for two years. Yeah, he did it to shut my fucking mouth. If I'm winning in court, I'm shutting up. It's hard, though, Ish. You're right. He did it. He did it for two years. Yeah, he did it. He can do it. And again, I don't want nobody saying I'm taking sides.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I don't know what the hell happened. Yo, you taking sides. I don't know what happened, but I'm going by your example. If I'm him, all the shit I caught for the last two years, the way my career has been affected, all this going on, it's hard to just sit here and continue to shut the fuck up. Not now. We around third base. We around third base potentially.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And if I get exonerated, if it gets dismissed, I'm going to jump up on a table like Kobe Bryant and go crazy. But right now I'm shutting the fuck up. Well, since you bring up baseball in baseball, they shun you for any celebration. They it's bush league you can't stare at a home run it's just certain things that the bat yeah you can certain now in baseball that might
Starting point is 00:33:13 be tradition new age people are saying get that the fuck out of here like that attracts people so if you hit a home run yes stare at it uh flaunt to the pitcher without getting a ball thrown at you 95 miles per hour. Hey, if you rounding third and think you could do something fancy, go jazzy it in there. So that's what I say to that. I'm just saying the temptation, you'll have people that feel one way and then people that feel
Starting point is 00:33:35 another way. Tory got music coming. He teased it. He said, yo, music coming. He's feeling excited about whatever is coming. So now let's go to, we don't need to argue about should he talk or shouldn't he talk. It's a matter of opinion. I agree. He's feeling excited about whatever is coming. So now let's go to, we don't need to argue about should he talk or shouldn't he talk. It's a matter of opinion. I agree. He's feeling excited.
Starting point is 00:33:50 True. Now that may not necessarily mean anything because Meg is sticking to her guns. She repeated, yo, you shot me. But it wasn't her. And this is the first time. This is the first time she's doubling down on that on the internet. It's no longer. Someone shot me.
Starting point is 00:34:09 It's you. She didn't do it. I didn't do it. That leaves you. Yeah. But don't play this out in the court of public opinion and on the internet. But this is my point. If,
Starting point is 00:34:21 if, if, if, if this is the, if you are winning in court Uh huh You don't even wanna Jab the bear
Starting point is 00:34:30 You don't wanna You get what I'm saying Shut the fuck up Because then This doesn't happen The unfortunate reality Though Yo Joe
Starting point is 00:34:38 He jumped up there and said Yo This what you get for Giving out good dick Fuck two best friends And Of course you gonna get to get some negative backlash. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:34:49 Like, just be chill, my nigga. Be mature. Sit in the cut. Wait till your day in court is had. And hopefully, if you know you didn't do anything, your day will be had. Then you celebrate. You're the running man in the street naked. I don't like this from you because we've given good dick and seen a wig out.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Absolutely. Whenever I experience something. I'm not on trial for my life, dog. But it's not right is all I'm saying. And I agree. This typically comes about unless the shit is, you know, factual and just video. But I mean, these situations a lot of times come about because there's some emotional element to it.
Starting point is 00:35:30 So, I mean, should he have said that? Again, I'm not arguing that he should or shouldn't have. I'm not saying he shouldn't have said it. I'm only talking about the temptation to want to share your side when you see a glimmer of hope. Yeah. And, again, let me just hold on. Look, I'm not saying he should have shared it either.
Starting point is 00:35:41 And again, let me just, hold on. Look, I'm not saying he should have shared it either. But she put up the text message, Thrill, showing, yo, you apologized for this. And then quickly deleted it. That was disgusting. To me, it looks like that statement was just trying to clear that up. That was nasty, yo. I didn't apologize to you for that. I apologize for this.
Starting point is 00:36:02 That one was nasty, yo. I'm not practicing something I don't, I yo. I'm not practicing something I don't, I mean, I'm not preaching something I don't practice. We all know personally, I'm shutting the fuck up, right? All right, cool. What I'm saying, and my potential consequence is nothing compared to what he is potentially looking at. Dog, I don't want to come off wrong, brash, harsh, nothing to a potential juror, to a potential DA.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Check this out. I'm going to sit in the cut. I did it for two years. He can do it another two months. Ish. You're a little older, a little more mature, a little wiser. You're right. That counts.
Starting point is 00:36:35 You're right. You ain't playing with the money he's playing with and had that money affected the way he has. I agree. True. So, again, it might be like, yo, I think I'm in the clear now. We going in circles. But I'm just saying. Let's advance it.
Starting point is 00:36:49 There's mad other stuff to get to about this. No, what I'm saying is this. I did it for two years. I could do it for two months. The end for me. I did it for two years.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I could do it for two more months. I understand again. His position in the event that he is in fact innocent, I understand. She put out the text and said well what were you apologizing for and i thought that was really nasty because when i went through a situation and apologized people were hitting me to say hey an apology in court is an admission of guilt so when you play on that it's telling the text that she released didn't highlight why he was apologizing it didn't say any of that so now she's telling him why he
Starting point is 00:37:35 apologized i'm getting the facts of this case out of here and now i'm inserting my own fucking brain. Stop, yo. Stop, yo. You can't tell me why I'm apologizing. Indeed. And I'll take it a step further than that. Only for Joe. I'm sure this will be
Starting point is 00:37:56 taken wrong. But now you asking me to believe that a nigga shot you and then text you and said my bad. Not saying it's impossible. Could happen.
Starting point is 00:38:10 But that makes it even more strange. It's just strange. Like, I'm not, I'm not letting my brain run wild with this. Discovery is discovery. And that's where the act fight comes in at. Act misworded himself, but he was correct.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Because inconclusive is a fancy way of saying, or we can't decide. Yes, technically academics was wrong in saying his DNA was not found on that weapon because that is not true. And when she responded to it, if you know how to read, she was responding in sooth-surf language. See, I see a lot of that going on as you people get more acquainted with attorneys. It's a lot of sooth-surf language. Threatening.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Threatening the lawsuit. Well, you did what? Go ahead and do it. I did, especially since this Cardi B, Tasha Kay shit. Shade Room putting up shit. We do not condone. All people are weary out there.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Niggas is going to surf on some lawsuits. That's just the time and the climate that we're in. So she said, wait, how you know? Wait, what? Huh? How you know?
Starting point is 00:39:22 How would you know? It's suy language. Right? But totally aside from that, he was, the sentiment was correct. It was inconclusive. We don't have DNA on it. You don't have to have a horse in the race to think to yourself, it would be tough to prove something beyond a reasonable doubt.
Starting point is 00:39:45 If there's no gunshot residue, if there's no DNA on the clip, the bullet, the mechanism of this weapon. That's all. It's like you're watching Law and Order. Yeah. Which is why I don't get why people are just so. Everyone's just attacking everyone. Yeah. Nobody's thinking logically. It's all. I like this person. just attacking everyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Nobody's thinking logically. It's all... I like this person. Emotional, basically. Yeah, it's all emotional. Emotional. And that's the part that I hate. That's why I just sit back and watch it. Like, you got fans of one person
Starting point is 00:40:14 because they're a fan of this person. They don't care about the facts. They don't care... We don't even know the facts. And it's the social climate. Social climate is playing a big, big, big, big part in this. Well, that's what he said, one of his... The public climate. Yeah, like the a big, big, big, big part in this. Well, that's what he said. The public climate is playing a big, big part in this.
Starting point is 00:40:32 So what part will public climate play after this is finished? See, and that's why I think because he got the glimmer of hope, he jumped the gun with the talking. I think that because he's talking to the people. Win, lose, or draw, he's talking to the people when lose or draw. He's hung when loser draw. He's hurt. He ain't necessarily hung, but he's hung by a certain demo.
Starting point is 00:40:53 True. But I think that. All right. So in my opinion, like black women have been downtrodden so long. Right. They've been getting their ass whipped so long that. tried in so long right they've been getting their ass whipped so long that we have to have empathy immediately for them because they've been victimized so much yeah so um when you hear about anybody doing something to a black woman of course you're gonna run to the aid
Starting point is 00:41:16 until we gonna prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this didn't happen and even if they did prove that not saying that i don't know if he's innocent or guilty but if they still do prove that you still gonna have people that empathize with the black woman regardless of what took place he gonna still get some backlash so i don't he can still proceed and go on with a career and make money and be able to feed himself again but he's still gonna have a demo of people that are still going to denounce him regardless of what he's doing. Especially if, let's say this comes back completely inconclusive and they don't go to trial and this don't fully play its way out. Then if they don't hear a not guilty, he's guilty. Even if they hear a not guilty based on a lack of prosecution or insufficient evidence to prosecute him fully,
Starting point is 00:42:03 it's still not going to be enough. Not enough. Because we have to empathize with black women. And that's why I say where the social climate is today, because we've been so fucked up throughout hundreds of years,
Starting point is 00:42:12 we still going to rock with the black woman regardless. It's just where we are. It's almost like if a black woman is involved, the person charged is guilty until proven innocent it's the other way around like you have to treat them as a black person in the united states is guilty until you prove your innocence no but i'm saying like in this case in any case comes out but
Starting point is 00:42:39 yeah yeah it's like oh she accused you of this you have to prove you didn't do it yeah we're automatically you gotta have a video footage saying yo I wasn't even there I was in Wendy's. Yeah you got to have that. I don't have nothing else on it. Me either. Y'all unpack it.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Thoughts and prayers. Just keep April 5th because that's the next date. It's too close to the finish line. April 5th? That's when they postponed it to. Yes, they postponed it to April 5th. Might get postponed again, though.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Yeah. Nope. Leave it alone, John. Let it go. Leave it alone. Let it go. I'm chilling in there. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I'm chilling. All right, come on. What else is important? Let's get past it. Come on. What else? What else we got? You want to do new music? Prayers, thoughts, condolences. Absolutely., come on. What else is important? Let's get past it. Come on. What else? What else we got? You want to do new music?
Starting point is 00:43:25 Prayers, thoughts, condolences. Absolutely. Everything. Everything. To everybody. New music. New music it is. What new music?
Starting point is 00:43:33 Conway. That's the biggest release of the week. Conway's shady debut. Okay. Did anybody listen to it? I have not. No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Did you? I did. Got some good features. I love it. God don't make mistakes. The album is out now. At first, the first half of it, I was like, oh, this is, I was kind of torn because it was like, you know, we often see someone from, you know, the quote unquote underground or
Starting point is 00:44:02 whatever, go to a major label and they are forced or not forced or coerced to change their shit up so the first five songs i was kind of torn because it's like well this is a conway project right that's good no it's good okay but it's also like daniel kind of would hope for it to go somewhere else a little bit but then the second half of the album it grows grows. It's a really good album. I had someone who's a big Conway fan reach out to me yesterday, and he was like, yo, I think you're going to like the album. I think you will too, actually. And I'm like, you know me. Why? And he was like,
Starting point is 00:44:36 Conway's very vulnerable interest. But he's not just saying, like, I'm the best rapper. I rap better than all of y'all. He's not doing that like he does on most of his verses I mean he does and that's kind of the point I was making
Starting point is 00:44:47 the first half of it he does that and then he goes somewhere else with it that you've never seen him go I mean
Starting point is 00:44:53 he's been pretty vulnerable on mixtapes the cow the record I played last episode like he plays with the vulnerability but this one
Starting point is 00:45:01 he was all the way there for the whole second half yeah that's what he was just like yo he tapped in he went all the way there for the whole second half. Yeah, that's what my guy, he was just like, yo, he tapped in. Yeah. He went all the way.
Starting point is 00:45:08 So I said, all right, I'm giving him a lesson over the weekend. Yeah, and I want to give a shout out to Mike and whoever else was involved over there at Shady
Starting point is 00:45:14 because they let him be him and they let him grow at the same time. And that doesn't usually happen for someone like this that does a very niche. Especially not on the label debut.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Yeah, exactly. The debut? No, no, that's ours. We want R&B features. We want... Yeah, yeah. The debut is ours. You work on that shit
Starting point is 00:45:31 on your own time. Yeah, there's still Derringer and Aller on there, a couple songs, but then you get Bank, you get Hit Boys on there. Okay. You get some different sounds.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Got some good R&B features. Yeah. Well, the Jill Scott is not an R&B feature she's rapping really bars you lying
Starting point is 00:45:49 I swear to God Jill Scott can do anything she's dope by the way I love you Jill she's amazing Jill Scott giving niggas bars Jill was on there
Starting point is 00:45:57 barred up alright what else we got what else dropped let me see if I can find Jill oh you got the okay here we go
Starting point is 00:46:04 Earthgang dropped. Che Crew dropped. Robert Glasper dropped. Oh, I didn't hear the Robert Glasper. Kodak Black dropped, right? Yes, he did. He did. Yeah, so those were the drops.
Starting point is 00:46:17 I heard Che shit. It's hard. What else did I hear? Robert Glasper I pre-ordered. Amazing. I listened to Earth Gang, but it was on like the TV, so I didn't really have no deep dive on that. Here's some chill bars. And all the corners you sit in tents Some would call it symbiotic, different
Starting point is 00:46:46 And every part is simple and tense Why I fuck with you most was the you that I get It was the rhymes that you spit, your confidence in a dick Why we stay close, we wasn't monolithic My lane taught you some game, you got me nice with a flick In that apartment on May Street We played Wu and Ella Fitzgerald I read Nietzsche, you let me sleep Woke me up with a big ass smile To eat some pussy, more than close More than kinky, more than blood
Starting point is 00:47:11 I know you feel me Even in the Taliban Hand in my hands Lyric of Odyssey Oh my lord Yo, Jill Scott is amazing What can't she do? Why does she sound so great rapping?
Starting point is 00:47:26 She's a good rapper. And why was she talking that shit? That's the bigger question. But the internet figured Jill out. Yeah, I was going to say Jill. They did. Yeah, a long walk my ass. They walk somewhere.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Someone's long. Jill, we love you. We appreciate you and thank you. Wow, I'd love to hear more Jill Scott rapping. Yeah. I would. I think some more exist,
Starting point is 00:47:48 so you might be hearing some. Look at Robert Glasper. He got Yabba out here. Oh my God. Jesus. I didn't know he put something out there. Jesus, Robert Glasper
Starting point is 00:47:55 is amazing, yo. Look at this. That's a nice... Look at this track list. Look at these features. Look at this cohesiveness. This art. I'm a fan, man.
Starting point is 00:48:07 What a guy. Let me go cop this. What a yo you artists out there some of y'all make thursday nights really exciting man yeah like i forget it's thursday night and then it's like whoa let me see let me see what niggas is cooking out here and some of y'all the kitchen is hot the kitchen is hot so shout out to y'all i appreciate y'all and like you said uh like we hot so shout out to y'all i appreciate y'all and like you said uh like we said earlier sometimes you need an escape man i've been watching cnn and it's just been nasty yeah i can't do it bro i can't do it no more you don't have a choice though it's a choice i mean you try to avoid it and ignore it as long as you can but then when it starts to get really really effective i forgot what movie that was that started with like this young, it started with a young kid and his dad and they was in another country somewhere.
Starting point is 00:48:52 But then they just kept showing all these bombings and the family that this guy lost and this is his last kid and it was dad versus America. And that always stuck with me because they just showing innocent people just die out the blue. Yeah. Like, bomb here. Bomb. It's over. Bro, I was watching some shit and somebody was just video recording something out their window. So the fighter jet came through?
Starting point is 00:49:13 And the missile just came through. The jet came through and the missile just shot past the window, dog. And just hit some shit. See, that type of shit I can't imagine. The fuck? And wouldn't want to. So your heart goes out your heart goes out to the people
Starting point is 00:49:25 experiencing this even if it's not here and I saw you're a human being fam I saw a person tweet yo I'm in the Ukraine and we just got word
Starting point is 00:49:35 they were unplugging our internet so I hope to talk to y'all again I saw reports that said they hit Chernobyl yeah they took it
Starting point is 00:49:44 yeah Chernobyl great min, they took it. Chernobyl, great miniseries. It was. Too. Really, really, really good. The first day, like, you know, my brain, but strategically they hit the airport first. You know what I'm saying? We're going to take away y'all ability to enter or leave. So we hit the airport on the first day.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Like, shit like that. It was just crazy. Air, land, sea. Air, land, sea. Air, land, sea, organized attack. Putin threatening anybody that gets involved. I really don't. What are they fighting about? I read that it was, and I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:17 This is not a political podcast, but I read it was about the access to the port that Ukraine has because they're on the Mediterranean or whatever. There's a port by the proxy or something like that. They have access to the Mediterranean, yeah. I read that as well.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Again, not political, so I don't... And the crazy part is we really won't ever know what they beefing over. No, we probably will. We probably will. United States gonna give us a story.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Russia's gonna deny the story. Who the fuck do we believe? We don't... The United States, we don't know what we beefed over. So my sentence was, they tell us we going over there for whatever reason it wasn't for.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Like, they know, they say it's above all our pay grade. They said send all the insurrection people over there because they already got the gear. Nah, for real, where them niggas at? Yeah, that's a good point you wanna fight you know your country
Starting point is 00:51:06 right it was tough as hell January 6th go ahead and get your ass out in the street no right you got it you got it
Starting point is 00:51:14 don't even worry about it prayers to the people of the Ukraine that's I read another one that was funny I won't say it no
Starting point is 00:51:19 yeah prayers to everybody out there going through that yeah I'm sure quite a few Ukrainian immigrants, you know, here that are probably dealing with family members and off the grid and whatever. You know, that's, I can't imagine. We might go through it if Putin tried to make a withdrawal from that little bank that they froze and get mad. They froze some accounts.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Go Biden. He told niggas, like, yo, I double did, y'all. Biden was like, alright. You know how somebody, you be talking shit, they punch you in the face? Be like, yo, well, let's talk. Let's talk, dog. Biden aged fast. He was always old.
Starting point is 00:51:59 He was old when he was running. While we on, anybody seen Lionel Richie lately? I have not. No. I won't say on, anybody seen Lionel Richie lately? I have not. No. I won't say it. I love Lionel Richie. Legend. One of the greatest. Better fucking believe it. He one of the GOATs.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Yeah, when I was watching, whatever that show is, he's hosting American Idol. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of them shits. That's it. Okay. That's it.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Y'all ain't gonna get me? I just saw him. Y'all ain't gonna get me, man. That's it. All right, what else is important? Oh, did you listen to Kodak's album? I didn't listen to it. Y'all ain't going to get me? I just saw. Y'all ain't going to get me, man. That's it. All right, what else is important? Oh, did you listen to Kodak's album? I didn't listen to it. No, I didn't listen to it yet.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Okay. That's not your bag? No, it is my bag. I've just been a little busy dealing with some stuff. I didn't get the chance to listen to the new music. Deal with Strip Club? Strip Club wasn't playing the new music. They was playing the hits.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Ah. I know. You was in there on fire In more ways than once Yo Yo you good? Oh hello Yeah we straight
Starting point is 00:52:50 I'm sorry about that Yeah we good My apologies I was in there by myself Standing around Looking like a fucking doof Until Looking like a dope
Starting point is 00:52:57 Not until No no not until It wasn't His weight class wasn't in there Like that That's what you did yo Yeah I went to support ours
Starting point is 00:53:06 come on you gotta be a team player nah I mean I got some singles but you took them home I took them home with me it's not team played
Starting point is 00:53:17 yeah nah I got out of there um one thing for the strippers though you gotta like know if somebody's not really checking for you
Starting point is 00:53:23 cause that was yeah right that was a little frustrating. What the hell is he talking about? You better keep your frustration. I'm sitting there like, shorty, please move. Yo, fam, did that hurt? No. What are you talking about, man? They come start throwing a butt on your thigh.
Starting point is 00:53:38 I don't want you. On the side of your hip. You like, sweetie. Go that way. I didn't catch eyes with you. Nothing. But that's on y'all. Because you're supposed to say, excuse me, miss. I'm not tipping right now. And then they'll way. I didn't catch eyes with you. Nothing. But that's on y'all because you're supposed to say,
Starting point is 00:53:46 excuse me, miss, I'm not tipping right now. And then they'll leave. They don't work. But if you don't say a word, yeah, they're going to shake that sweaty ass on you. When they see,
Starting point is 00:53:53 no, they don't. Joe, I didn't look at you. They just watched me tip her. You just making my body jerk. Like, get away from me. Go. Go somewhere. You got to master the art
Starting point is 00:54:02 of looking completely away and uninterested. I did everything but look at her and she just kept there pressuring you yeah like man move
Starting point is 00:54:10 I'm over here I'm talking to homie I'm having a drink I act like they not there and they just keep look you're bouncing your butt on me sweet like
Starting point is 00:54:18 shorty I like him he's not like you please go leave me alone this is harassment at this point Security So yeah
Starting point is 00:54:28 I cannot dodge it Mr. Wednesday I cannot fight the feeling I know We tried I'm 0-2 You're a grown up OLS3 changed the world
Starting point is 00:54:43 I still tried to keep it from coming out OLS 3 should have come out no it shouldn't what do you want me to do right now you want to just chill yes why articulate it for me I can
Starting point is 00:54:58 that's why we're friends let's do it for me when something is clear that... Somebody wants a certain reaction. A certain reaction out of you. Any reaction you give them... It hurts them more when you don't respond in the manner in which they want you to do it. Any reaction you give them is their...
Starting point is 00:55:22 They win. Yeah. They win. Win what? Whatever it is they what whatever they want off of you yeah which is what i don't know it doesn't matter it matters to the person yeah it does yeah it don't matter it does if somebody wants a response if somebody wants to uh make you angry if somebody you get what i'm saying like there's people out here that do shit and try to manipulate you just to get you um bring your frequency down you get what i'm saying it could be an energy thing i'm with you that's what leads me to the question what do you win like everyone's agenda no that's
Starting point is 00:55:58 just one particular person there's a kid somewhere in idaho might tweet Kevin Hart and say, hey, fuck you, suck my dick, or just something from his home, right? He might feel vindicated and good about doing that. From Kevin Hart's position, no, you don't care about that because what did you win in that? Those are some instances. In other instances, some people have a direct benefit at some of the things that they do. And so for me, I can only speak for me. And again, I'm not even, I'm preaching, but I practice what I'm preaching. We have this conversation here a lot.
Starting point is 00:56:37 I'm not going to even entertain you. I won't even let you know that I know you exist. And I think that hurts the people 10 times more than you cursing them out. Then you, you get any response. Will there be any response? I'll see you on the street and walk right by you, fam.
Starting point is 00:56:55 You know, I will too. So that's me. I can't, you know what I mean? At what point does it become more about controlling your own narrative, especially when you have a platform this huge? I speak three hours twice a week, and that's for the free people.
Starting point is 00:57:13 That's free. Y'all know what we do on the side. We get to work. So your job, right, is to talk. So when you don't talk, it's obvious that you're not talking. Like it's painfully apparent. So then you just allow people to continue with whatever jargon they say. And you're mature and you do the right thing, which never feels good.
Starting point is 00:57:41 You older, you trying to go to a different place. Like everybody has a different route, right? So in the route that you going, no, you're not supposed to respond to any of it. But if you just keep letting people paint you with this brush, silent while you're silent, what could happen years down the line,
Starting point is 00:57:58 if people are that invested. And with me, they usually are, is that this just keeps going. Like it's like a, like a, it's the snowball effect like it just gets bigger and it gets bigger and it gets bigger and now because you the nigga that's
Starting point is 00:58:10 willing to just leave with the niggas that trust and believe in you no clarity is ever given from your side and maybe none has to be but when shit get a little too carried away. So I got two answers. Yeah. Yeah, I do think something should be. This is dog. I hate this. If the people want a response today, I might give you this response in six months when it don't benefit you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:40 You get what I'm saying? Or I'm just going to keep ascending and I'm happy that you did what you did So now I can put you over there And you can't grow with me Show me who you are You can't grow with me You stay right there
Starting point is 00:58:51 You can't never double back And get no bag with me You can't never do nothing Positive with me Because You showed your hand I'm good on you It's not gonna stop you from growing
Starting point is 00:59:03 Exactly It's only It's like going to stop you from growing. Exactly. It's like a self-vindicating thing. See, but that's where it's weird-ish, and I hate to bring it to this space. I'm not looking for vindication in the outcome of other people's actions. You are. There's a meme that goes around that says, you can't flex on me. I want you to win.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Like, my mom got her car broken into half a million months ago and was real disappointed one night. And so I said, hey, they needed that a little more than we did. She didn't quite fuck with that at the time. But the fact remains, that's the way that the world is designed. Yo, if I need some shit, you got a Benz right here, I in there so use your own advice so what i'm saying they need this you don't i know so that's why i'm not i won't be i'm not mad at everybody doing what they got to do i have this talk with women because i support whole culture and i'm gonna make that correlation a lot as we have this conversation but i support whole culture i support everybody doing what they have to do to survive i don't know your circumstance and i know any of our shoes could change with a phone call true so if that's what you got to do dog then do it but a consistent
Starting point is 01:00:17 thing for me and y'all are right let me say this y'all are right so i don't want to sound like i'm arguing with y'all y'all are. Where y'all are not right is, yo, this is a trigger of mine. And now this is different. I'm not personally invested. Yeah, yo, you asking me to have a restraint. God is asking me to have a restraint. So I will but boy
Starting point is 01:00:48 ugh just this way this way your true strength shows yeah I go through it every day you know what I'm saying like yeah you can handle some of the other ones but when it's right there
Starting point is 01:00:57 let's see how strong you really are so for y'all you never give explanation or anything you just let it let it all go there's days that
Starting point is 01:01:04 I damn near be about to break. You know what I'm saying? But I look at what good is it going to do? It's not going to do no good. You're not going to win. But there's nothing to win. I know. No, no, fuck the win.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Yo, let me advance this. What good is it going to do? Let me advance this. I mean, clarity. But for whom, hold on. Y'all was just going to say clarity for whom? Because in a clarity situation, if that's your goal, then I pick up the phone. I have.
Starting point is 01:01:33 And if we still don't meet, then there's no clarity going to be given. Or some people don't want clarity. We'll never meet. Yeah. We'll never meet. That's fine yo we come on this pod a lot and talk about behavior that we see from people doing things for monetization like that is a consistent topic here it is especially in the internet era so none of it is shocking
Starting point is 01:01:57 but sometimes and for me a lot recently god keep making it so it'd be like wait no you no wait not you wait you too oh and you anybody need a bag and so the people that may be lacking do But what we do for a bag differs. And because the line is so blurry today because everybody got a platform and is posturing, we throw around words like fucking integrity. But what the actions show is insecurity. And if you don't clear that up for people, then you just get a community of people to believe some shit and just run with and then the phone game starts but they're gonna do that regardless yeah but even if you try to
Starting point is 01:02:50 clear it up that's why we say what is it gonna solve all of that is cool but when you come in here and talk as much as i do about as much as i do when it come to your front door no you should address it now should you address it like we addressed like i addressed another situation that i handled poorly publicly on air of course not of course not and i think that my reputation garners people thinking that when i say i'm going to address something that's what's coming and that's not where i'm at i don't feel that way i'm hurt i'm not angry but i won't misdirect my hurt and for me that's what happens a lot of times we start misdirecting anger because of a difference in ideology and this slaughterhouse shit that we talking about that's all it's been from the rip
Starting point is 01:03:44 and when emotions get involved it's been from the rip. And when emotions get involved, it's tough for people to articulate their points and try to convey a message and think about things logically or in spite of their position. But that's what needs to happen. I don't know why all this is going on because there's a difference in ideology. But's a consistent thing for me so it's me it's me so therapy teach you to always look at you what's happening with you that makes all of these things similar like happen go on everything in your life you attract it so y'all say to ignore it therapy tell you you can't so what don't address it here i was just watch just just watch the clown show just watch the clown show you don't have to go on i can't do that because there's a teachable moment somewhere in here for somebody i can't shun
Starting point is 01:04:38 the people that's going to pick up the positive for the people that only focus on the negative i can't i can't that's not who i am that's not who i've been that's not the evolution of the people that only focus on the negative i can't i can't that's not who i am that's not who i've been that's not the evolution of joe that's not the person that that's not who i want to be i can't tell you how to move i can't tell you how to clean your house you know i'm saying i might want my couch over there you might want my couch over there. You might want your couch over there. I can only say what I would do and what I wouldn't do. So if I'm you, I wouldn't even address anything. If I had something to say, I'd pick up the phone. If we can't get clarity or if we can't get a commonality there, I'm going to move on and I'm going to dissociate myself if that's what I feel I want to do if I don't feel I want to dissociate myself and we
Starting point is 01:05:26 can't get clarity cool you could be your right I could be my right and we could keep it moving but I wouldn't um do it publicly like you've had too much public shit going on like I would just let that shit rock and again but doing it that way says that you can't just have a legible conversation about something no you can have a conversation in that you can't just have a legible conversation about something no you can have a conversation in private you don't gotta have that conversation
Starting point is 01:05:48 it ain't gotta be for the public especially in this climate this conversation has been had privately 90 million times so where's the clarity
Starting point is 01:05:55 over the course of 10 years so what is you addressing it right now Solf nothing if you've had like you said
Starting point is 01:06:01 this conversation's happened a bunch of times over the past 10 years. What are you getting in front of this camera on that microphone addressing it right now? Because there's a teachable moment. That's why. I just finished saying you have to look at shit outside of your personal perspective on it. And think about the people that's going to actually pull what they need to pull from it.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Because there's too many people that watch this. I understand the point of you adding light to something that you don't really want to be so visible. I get that. But at some point, we have to start taking control of our own narrative. I think you just go down a wormhole. Because every single time now that something gets said not every time you pick and choose your battles
Starting point is 01:06:48 you pick and choose your battles you don't respond to anything so listen to this I'm going to play devil's advocate give it to me so now when you don't choose to address something because you address
Starting point is 01:06:58 Jack you don't address Jill Jill must be telling the truth you get what I'm saying or you address Ronnie and Bobby you ain't address Ricky and Mike them n Jill must be telling the truth. You get what I'm saying? Or you address Ronnie and Bobby. You ain't address Ricky and Mike. Them niggas is telling the truth. Because if they wasn't telling the truth, you would have addressed it the same way you did to other people.
Starting point is 01:07:13 And I think you just go down a wormhole. I wouldn't lend no credence to nobody. If that's how you feel, that's how you feel. I don't feel that way. Especially after we talked. Good luck, my nigga. If we talked and had a conversation about it and we didn't we couldn't come to terms or whatever fine you move how you move I move how
Starting point is 01:07:30 I move god bless you yeah good luck no I'm out or not good luck okay so you move one way behind the scenes no no you divulge only certain information to the public to frame certain things a certain way to leverage your audience and take advantage of fan equity that wouldn't have been. Don't worry about it. Yeah. Come on. But you don't got to do that. Right. Be blessed that you ain't got to do that.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Look at it as a blessing that you don't got to do that. That was good right there. I'm trying to make lighthearted, but yo you you don't have to do that but that is the blessing issue i know everybody not blessed to have to do that it just hurts when you do it at the expense of me oh would you take the advice you gave your mother Damn that was a good one That was a good one I smoked that So get your shit off
Starting point is 01:08:30 No Yeah like Take the advice you gave your mother Get your shit off at the expense of me And hopefully it does well Whatever they stole Out Mama Faye's car
Starting point is 01:08:39 They needed that It ain't hurt Mama Faye They needed it leave it at that I'm gonna go off one day yo nah we gonna try to
Starting point is 01:08:52 I'm telling you I'm gonna go off one of these days y'all know that's what happens when you suppress things mhm mhm yeah keep building up
Starting point is 01:09:01 till eventually you explode that's why you find another method of release yeah and not for nothing keep building up until eventually you explode. That's why you find another method of release. Yeah. And not for nothing. That's why you go
Starting point is 01:09:10 to the strip club. Whatever. Go to the gym. Whatever people do. Sweatpants on. To what they're saying too, at least my advice would be
Starting point is 01:09:17 let the whole picture paint out. Let's see what this all looks like. All these webisodes, the album. Parks. I know.
Starting point is 01:09:30 You know why niggas fell in love with Friday the 13th, the series, the movie, and Jason? When it came on and Jason killed somebody, it was to be expected that in a few more minutes, he was going to kill somebody else. Sometimes you didn't, don't need to see the rest of the movie to kind of know how this is.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Oh, wait, you got to keep killing. Holy shit. Like, that's what y'all want me to watch. This is disgusting, yo. Come on, man. Stop. Yo, push pause. Stop, yo.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Stop. Now we got to pause. Yeah, we got to pause. No, this is fucking utterly uberly disgusting uberly
Starting point is 01:10:10 uber alright nah love and light love and light there you go yo I need a check Zinjo you gotta give me a check
Starting point is 01:10:20 I don't like it I don't you will later on though could you send me a check you give Alicia a check you gotta give me a check. I don't like it. I don't. You will later on, though. Could you send me a check? You give Alicia a check. You gotta give me a check, my nigga. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:10:31 Therapist. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one. Dr. Ish. No, I'm tight. It's part of life. I'm tight. It's part of life. It's part of life.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Yeah. You'll look back on it and be like, yo, I'm glad I listened. Thank you, dog. Yeah, thank you, part of yeah you look back on it and be like I'm glad I listened thank you dog yeah thank you you look back we only telling you this because we're your friends and we really love you
Starting point is 01:10:50 we don't want to see you make it's just it ain't worth it don't do it because you know I'm ignorant the other side I'd gas you up
Starting point is 01:11:01 for no reason alright come on let's move on there we go let's talk about friends exploiting the relationship. Let's move on. What do y'all think about that?
Starting point is 01:11:20 React. I think we did. No, nothing? All right. What else you got? So Biden elected the first African-American woman to be potentially in court. He nominated her, rather, to be potentially elected to the Supreme Court. Say her name.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Katonji Brown Jackson. Biden nominates to be the first black woman to sit on the Supreme Court. Give me a little clap for that. It's huge. Give me some clap. I'm still mad.
Starting point is 01:11:58 You're the one that clapped. I don't want to... We're advancing this Joe Biden nominated I know I got it back to these niggas yo
Starting point is 01:12:10 the fuck is you talking about we good we good we good go ahead then go ahead then go ahead there's a new Jay Z album out
Starting point is 01:12:18 it's like I bet you that's the only shit gonna change your mind my nigga you could just never respond to nothing when you get to a certain
Starting point is 01:12:28 yeah yeah tax bracket yeah that's kinda it it ain't even about tax bracket when you was shooting that Jay-Z
Starting point is 01:12:36 yes it is it is yes it is that's the problem yo that's it when you was shooting that Jay-Z he replied
Starting point is 01:12:42 huh when you was shooting that Jay-Z he replied he When you were shooting At Jay-Z He replied He did Not the way people would know He did A little conniving ass
Starting point is 01:12:49 He did though He said one thing No he was No he said one thing No he did He was on my ass He was beating my ass Yeah he did
Starting point is 01:12:57 And he replied Not on record He thought of every Washed up basketball player And called me him What are you talking about Y'all was a beefing What are you talking about That was'all wasn't beefing, man.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Ish, what are you talking about? That was a little pow, pow. Ish, if somebody come up to me while I'm walking to the store and pow, pow, pow. There's a problem. You can't just come up to me and start smacking me around. Nigga said you ain't no athlete. You Sean Bradley. Stop, yo.
Starting point is 01:13:20 That's why you banned from music talk. Stop. Stop, yo. On his beat. They wasn't beefing what are you why'd he do that no no no no you a whole
Starting point is 01:13:29 why'd he do that if they wasn't beefing what was that about yo I gotta hear this I just gotta real quick I gotta hear this
Starting point is 01:13:36 keep going I'll tell you I'm like okay but yeah you can't it's not really beneficial for you
Starting point is 01:13:44 if it was a benefit for you i would say address it i think a phone i'll sleep better tonight but y'all keep saying a phone call and i keep saying the phone calls end where they end yeah and if nobody's gonna be honest about where they end why can't the guy that talked for a living come in and be honest about where they ending at because that's just your truth and you just put the light on that and leave it alone alright come on move on
Starting point is 01:14:09 what you got that's all what you got y'all watch Bel Air nigga I did alright I'm trying to move
Starting point is 01:14:17 I'm not caught up y'all telling me to stop caught up I'm not caught up alright how many more episodes we give in Tommy before we call this shit whack bruh it's not whack to me really I'm not caught up alright how many more episodes we giving Tommy before we call this shit whack
Starting point is 01:14:26 bruh it's not whack to me really let's look I know we all was looking forward to it how many more we gonna give him
Starting point is 01:14:33 before we get this one the fuck out of here I don't think it's whack I think it's about to get crazy I think that it's a new season in a new city
Starting point is 01:14:43 and I think what 50 does well to me is introduce all the characters and give them their own lane and I think that's
Starting point is 01:14:51 what we're doing now okay can I raise my hand yeah Raising Kanan right new characters new city new era
Starting point is 01:14:58 everything right had a backstory go ahead though this has zero backstory we know who Kanan was so all he's doing is showing you how he came to be
Starting point is 01:15:10 Kanan this right here is all new territory fam this is trash this is trash I'm sorry
Starting point is 01:15:22 I'm sorry you think it's three episodes do you think it's three episodes do you think it's three episodes do you think it's three episodes do you think it's three episodes do you think it's three episodes know what else is trash this is trash I'm sorry three episodes do you know what else is trash
Starting point is 01:15:25 no no no yo I don't want to hear you niggas coming here in two weeks and say yo I ain't gonna hold you that time well if it gets better
Starting point is 01:15:34 if it gets there oh man but three episodes in it's three oh it felt like longer than that this is trash so what do you know
Starting point is 01:15:43 you don't need to see the whole series to know to know to know what's coming I'm asking you yo you good you a rapper I'm just asking
Starting point is 01:15:51 parts of Western I'm glad you don't rap no more says who says who you fucking yo niggas would've never tried
Starting point is 01:16:00 to do like this back in the day yo I feel like niggas are taking advantage of me, yo. All right, come on, man. Yeah, just leave it. What else, Park?
Starting point is 01:16:11 It's always leave it, though. Yeah, it is leave it. I hate you niggas that love me. Like, for real, honestly. Like, I don't. I don't like it. I don't. I don't.
Starting point is 01:16:20 I don't. I don't. I don't. Y'all might be right, but I don't. Okay. Down the line, you're good looking, yo. You know what? Y'all was right.
Starting point is 01:16:28 It might not seem like it right now. They did a confessional. Like, ****. Yo, shut the **** up. I'm asking you if you saw what I saw. I saw it. I saw it. They burnt a pig.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Where'd you even find a pig? Y'all burnt a fucking pig. Fam. You fam. No, this is like when Azalea Banks fucking cooked a cat and nobody said anything, yo. Why you keep saying she cooked a cat, bro? I was the only one saying, yo, that's not right. Why you keep saying she
Starting point is 01:17:10 cooked a cat? You can't put a cat in a frying pan, yo. Oh, wait, she... And the internet was like, alright, I'm done, yo. I'm done. They burnt the pig. Oh, man. They burnt the merch of something they own
Starting point is 01:17:28 moving on okay someone put Bow Wow on an all time corny rappers list and he ain't like that shit I wanna put two more niggas in an all time
Starting point is 01:17:41 corny rapper list we ain't gotta stop saying shit because he's in where four of them all time corny rapper list. We ain't got to stop saying shit because he's in where it's for. I want to put two more niggas in the all-time corny rapper's list, yo. Who else was on the list? I think Nick Cannon
Starting point is 01:17:52 was on there. You know what's crazy? Who else, I think? No, no, not you. I'm talking to Parks. Let's see. Who else was on there? I'm definitely not
Starting point is 01:17:58 talking to you. I think Will Smith was on there. Oh, I round out the top five. Throw it to me, coach. Coach, somebody throw it to me. Please tag me.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Oh, they're missing pictures. I can't deal with this. Who's at the bottom? That's not the corny. No, that's not corny. The regular corny list, not corny rappers, just corny people. Oh, it's just corny people. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Wayne Brady's on there. On a corny list not corny rappers just corny people oh it's just corny people yeah you're right william brady's on there we're on a corny list yeah i had a funny thing is i have a playlist that i made when i used to make the playlist on apple uh-huh it's called we so corny and i said yo these are bangers from people that y'all deem corny they're really not but all these guys was up there let me ask you a question right true and we do this with black culture why do we deem somebody corny if they don't have any street credibility
Starting point is 01:18:52 you just answered the question that's why they corny because they don't have no street cred that makes you a corny black man to these niggas yes I'm not saying I agree but yeah
Starting point is 01:19:03 that's exactly what it is oh you corny. That's horrible, my nigga. That has to stop. Let's get back to these two niggas. I'm trying to go away. I'm trying to go anywhere but there. That was a great little...
Starting point is 01:19:15 Them niggas went to a little... They went to a little chopped beef restaurant. Them niggas went and ordered some pulled pork. No, y'all don't talk and ordered some pulled pork. Yo. No, y'all don't talk about me over pulled pork. Don't do that,
Starting point is 01:19:29 yo. Hello? We good, Joe. No, no, you good. I'm not good.
Starting point is 01:19:35 So, Donda 2, right? Right, right, right. I'm looking at my sleepers. All right,
Starting point is 01:19:41 come on, man. All right. I'm just glad you don't rap I'm really here this is one of them times I don't even have nothing I'm tight I'm tight
Starting point is 01:19:53 I'm tight and I'm tight that y'all won't let me just be tight that's why I say you don't no you can be tight yeah just you don't have to be tight
Starting point is 01:19:59 here okay come on let's talk about Summer Walker what she did she had back toback shows in Atlanta. Apparently, it was a big deal because she didn't perform a lot of the songs on her new project, which I still say is a classic. Round of applause for Summer.
Starting point is 01:20:14 You said it's better than the first one. I think so, but that's my opinion. But she sat on stage and she said, Yo, my apologies for not performing not performing certain records but i can't i don't want to sit up here and cry these records hit too close to home they bring me back to an emotional place and i don't want to do that so i'm not going to perform some of these records and i thought that was the most interesting topic in the world i remember you used to say something about some of them records like yo i don't be performing this shit you gotta put me back to where i was when i made it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Yeah, but you can't do that. I was just about to say. You can't do that. Prayers to her. Of course. For a song that would come off as insensitive. Of course. But if you are a fan and you bought the album and you enjoy the songs that she released
Starting point is 01:20:59 on the album, as a fan, that's what you're coming there for. I might have saw you already perform the first tour run and got the first album. As a fan, that's what you're coming there for. I might've saw you already perform the first tour run and got the first album. Now I'm coming to hear the second album because isn't that what you guys tour based on the current album? Usually that's how it goes. Look at you learning shit, yo.
Starting point is 01:21:17 You're getting good, yo. This guy's stupid, yo. Young Ice in the back. You're about to say that they don't owe the fan shit? They don't. you get whoever I am today you get dog
Starting point is 01:21:28 that's not fucking true it is true I do have a question did she do none of the songs or just didn't do certain ones yes they're selling that merch
Starting point is 01:21:37 for $8 on that website so she did nothing from the new album it's completely old music But tore in a new album An $8 t-shirt
Starting point is 01:21:48 Ice We are on Patreon People pay for Patreon So if we got up there and said Thank you Alex You know what I'm ignoring you No that's what we're gonna do
Starting point is 01:21:57 Alex is dead ass Yo if we got up on Patreon And gave them a 20 minutes Twice a week They have the right to be mad. They are paying for a product. You can't say, yo, I could give you what the fuck I want to give you today. I'm not saying I'm giving you what the fuck.
Starting point is 01:22:12 That's what you just said. No, no, I'm saying who I am today. I'm not saying I'm giving you what the fuck I want. But if she's performing a song and say, yo, I can't do this. Do we care about artist's mental health or no? If I say I performed it. Nobody does. You don't. Don't go on tour. Nobody does. You can't go on tour. I can go do this Do we care about Artist's mental health or no? If I say I performed it Nobody does You don't
Starting point is 01:22:26 Don't go on tour Nobody does You can't go on tour I can go on tour I have records I can do I have a set list I can't say that
Starting point is 01:22:32 I got a set list If you have a classic What a lot of people Deem as a classic album Yeah I'm not giving you no bullshit I'm not gonna be mad If you do the old shit
Starting point is 01:22:39 You I already saw you on tour I already saw you do All this material before I paid for the new tour Which I already saw you do all this material before. I paid for the new tour, which encompasses the new album and the new material. That's what I'm paying. When Jay-Z does on the run tour,
Starting point is 01:22:53 he not going to doing all the reasonable doubt. He does some of it though. He throw something from every album in there. I'll give you an example. I go to every tour Chris Brown does. Now granted, he's putting out 40, 60. Stan. Yeah, absolutely. 70 songs on one album. Hold on. I'm going to give you an example I go to every tour Chris Brown does Now granted He's putting out 40 60 Stana Yeah absolutely
Starting point is 01:23:05 70 songs on one album Hold on With a catalog of hits So the last tour He might have only did Four or five records Off the current project Because I have hits
Starting point is 01:23:16 I stop it yo No I'm not I'm just telling you that Chris Brown has 900 hits Summer Walker has two albums Okay she's not giving An hour set or something But if I'm giving you Yes the fuck she is Giving an hour set whatever i'm giving you so you gotta get into
Starting point is 01:23:28 your catalog that's what i'm saying and if i don't want to do these particular songs i'm not going to do them it depends part of her brand is this whole social anxiety i'm not comfortable doing this and that and the fans love her for that i don't like to do these appearances i don't like that's part of her brand at this point so So y'all gotta take that what comes with that. That ain't true because Glad Sism ain't based off what the
Starting point is 01:23:48 fucking fans love. It's based off what brings in the most money. So they can't just go out there, like she did that last time. And I was supposed to be at one of these shows.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Like I was supposed to fly to Atlanta and have a blast because I love fucking that album and I love Summer Walker. But if I'm flying out there and I don't hear constant bullshit,
Starting point is 01:24:08 if I don't hear fucking circus, like if I don't hear the slaps on the new album. That you want to hear off the new album. Nah, the ones that made the new album sell, I would just be disappointed. I understand her mental health point, because I didn't want to do certain records. You're right.
Starting point is 01:24:21 But Only Human had to get performed. Dark record brings me to a dark place. But for the fans that drove hours to come over here, it's like LeBron when he was like, yo, man, I got to play through certain injuries because I'm the draw at the away games. Like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I these games. Well, in year 18 style. I'm just saying, though. But when he was on the Heetles and it was broke pinky time, now I'm playing through that. Kobe, same thing.
Starting point is 01:24:51 All-stars. That's what makes you box office. So, yeah, she's a phenomenal artist. But at some point, maybe not now, because I support her in all the decision-making, they're going to have to figure out a way around this. Correct. This was their way around what happened last time when she was touring and she was uncomfortable. Hey, let's do two back-to-back shows.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Blow them out in front of your home, your core. We in Atlanta. So this should put things a little more at ease. And she was still uncomfortable. Well, now we got to get into live streaming now. We have to find another medium to make her comfortable uh showcasing her art because she's a huge artist that's all and i'm listening you've killed lauren hill for some of her antics with regards to live shows
Starting point is 01:25:43 correct so if lauren hill comes to a show two hours late some of her antics with regards to live shows. Correct. So if Lauryn Hill comes to a show two hours late, almost in taking your stance, I don't owe y'all shit. Y'all sit here and wait and shut the fuck up. No. If the venue got a curfew
Starting point is 01:25:56 and the show was supposed to start here, You're not talking about the venue. We're talking about the fans. I'm talking about the fans, my nigga. If the shows, if they'll tell you, doors open at 8, show starts at 9.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Something like that. If she don't show starts at 9. Something like that. If she don't show up at 10.30, but the venue closes at 11, and she shows up and she gives me a bullshit show. You added it.
Starting point is 01:26:14 This is what she does, though. But this is what you brought Lauren Hill. I'm telling you what my beat is with her. I'm telling you what you added. You added the 11.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Take the 11 out of it. Let's say the venue say she can rock. Don't say she gave you a bullshit show. Say, yo, she came at 8. Show started at 9. She comes at 10.45.
Starting point is 01:26:32 She gives you a two-hour show and it was good music. I'm still tight. I'm still tight that you came out an hour and 45 minutes late because you had no regard for my life.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Me having to have my kids up in the morning. I paid to see you so I'm going to wait to see you because I love Lauryn Hill but now I gotta inconvenience myself I gotta drive home sleepy
Starting point is 01:26:49 I gotta wake my kids up I gotta do all of these other things that's not right all that no I'm not saying that first off all of that
Starting point is 01:26:55 if she showed up late I've seen artists show up wildly madly and smoke it nobody mad nobody mad some people
Starting point is 01:27:03 some people do get mad damn dog he was late as hell but you know what when he got there he fucking killed it rest in peace DMX Nobody mad. Nobody mad. Some people do get mad. Damn, dog. He was late as hell. But you know what? When he got there, he fucking killed it. Rest in peace, DMX. Late to every show. But when he showed up, he gave you a show.
Starting point is 01:27:13 She's just too big of an artist for this dance. She's a big artist. You can't say fuck the fans. I'm not saying fuck the fans. It is an interesting thing. She's a big artist, and she's a new artist. I'm not knocking her. That's what makes a difference.
Starting point is 01:27:24 For me, like I said, I actually prefer going to a show and seeing the hits the old shit as opposed to the new album i don't really want to see you perform the new album because i don't really know it that well it's not going to ring off the same way yeah but when you go into a show see and that's why concert goers just vary right because you have some people that are hit based when uh ice and myself went to the wale show i was hitting wale directly asked ice yo is he gonna do a uh who named bell ring he did it and i got back a yes but that is an unpopular song off of your brand new album that i have a personal attachment to part of me leaving the house is
Starting point is 01:28:06 are you going to do some of that stuff every Jay Z show he give you something that you had to be in the building to see I shouldn't perform this but I know who I am I know what y'all here for my shows just people's shows like you do the hits
Starting point is 01:28:21 but you gotta throw in some of you and at the same and at the same token this was what the first two shows right yeah yeah bring it to wale night one philly when he got when he finished the show he got in the back he was like yo what you think i'm trying i'm we still tinkering we still trying to figure out what we doing what the set list is going to be like by the time i finish it's probably be a totally different set list. So this is to get her comfortable. Night one and two.
Starting point is 01:28:49 We know the type of artist she is. I'm not knocking that. I'm knocking that. You can't say, yo, fuck the fans. I don't owe y'all shit. Because you do owe the fans something.
Starting point is 01:28:58 But if I'm not my best self, I can't perform for you niggas at all. And with the type of artist that she is, I'm not talking about her. But I'm talking about her because she's the topic. You said, fuck the fans. I don't owe them shit.
Starting point is 01:29:08 I said, who I am today is who you get. That's what I said. That's actually one of his lyrics. I was going to say, oh, this is a Joe Bar.
Starting point is 01:29:15 This is a Joe Bar. I don't care who Bar it is. I disagree with that. When somebody paid their money for your performance or for your goods or your services, it's like,
Starting point is 01:29:24 yo, you buy a hoodie you bought the music and they ain't feel like threading it that day so you're fucking you know what I mean yeah but
Starting point is 01:29:32 come on man the quality of the product is the quality of the product but if the show was still a good show just missing the new songs what you wanted to hear that's relative now
Starting point is 01:29:39 because some people wanted to hear the new shit everyone wants to hear a certain song when they go out to see a concert that they might not see. That you're not going to get.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Yeah. That happens. You didn't do what most people say are some of the best songs on here. Like, dog, if I go to a summer show for the new project and you don't hit some of these songs, I support you so I ain't going to be mad at you, but I'm going to be a little disappointed when I leave. That's all. Oh, my God. See, but that's the gift and the curse, right?
Starting point is 01:30:23 Because this is such a real story for her, it helped catapult not only the music, but the fanfare of it. Because y'all invested. Even when there was no music, y'all had a story to follow up until I had an album done. I went with that. And she dealt with real life results of that. Like the household changed. Right. And that gets deep. So, I mean, I totally get.
Starting point is 01:30:39 That's why I was trying to take it off of her. When the songs are too real for you. I was trying to take it off of her. When the songs are too real for you. I was trying to take it off of her. Then do what you got to do. But now I'm back to my original point from the last tour. Then don't do a show. She might not have wanted to do the show. We don't know that.
Starting point is 01:30:55 We know how that goes. It's on her and her team. Yeah. That's on her and her team. No, you're right. But if you can't do the slaps. But again, she's big, so she can really do what she want right
Starting point is 01:31:06 yo I'm doing a show I'm doing my first album for the next five years and they're still gonna sell tickets and they're gonna sell tickets and they're gonna come out this is what I'll say as a Summer Walker fan
Starting point is 01:31:16 I hope that she gets to a space where she's comfortable enough to do some of these records where exactly yeah she might get there cause man again this is night one and two of the tour and there's no to do some of these records where... Exactly. Yeah, that's all. She might get there.
Starting point is 01:31:25 Because, man. Again, this is night one and two of the tour. Yeah, there's no... But I don't think it's a tour. I think these were the shows. No, I just did two shows. Yeah, I think these were the back-to-back shows. But even if, there's no expiration date on it, right?
Starting point is 01:31:39 Like, if you leave it alone, you don't have to be comfortable performing these new records, but those are your records. I could come back three years later to my cult audience oh what do you know this brings me back to something if you just leave something alone there's value to it you don't have to come out and diminish the shit yo i can't perform this see her saying that might add value because that means oh now we waiting now we waiting until you're able to get to the yo, I can't perform this. See, her saying that might add value because that means,
Starting point is 01:32:05 oh, now we waiting. Now we waiting until you're able to do it. Until the day that you can do it. So she wins, man. Shout out to Summer Walker. We hope that your mental health is great.
Starting point is 01:32:14 We hope you were comfortable on that stage. Yeah, go out and put on the best show you can put on. Even look at her caption. Thank you guys for coming. I haven't had a show in so long.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Yeah, look at that. So come on. Look at that house. Well, that's another thing too. I did this in the past. As someone who just did my first show in four years, Yeah, look at that. So come on. Look at that house. Well, that's another thing too. I ain't did this in a while. As someone who just did my first show in four years, it's weird going back out.
Starting point is 01:32:29 So now I'm supposed to go out and do the records that put me in a bad space? Yeah. At that? No, man. You need to warm up a little bit first. No, I gotta warm up.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Yeah. And y'all can stop all of that y'all care about artists' mental health because y'all don't. Right. You really don't. Right. Because if you did,
Starting point is 01:32:41 you'd understand that. And I'm not even the biggest summer walker. See, that's the point I was trying to make earlier when y'all shut me up Y'all the funny part she don't even have to perform it she could put the mic out and they'll do it, it's true I'm moving like it's worth it Cause holding you up is breaking me down If you want it full time, want that day to day
Starting point is 01:33:16 I got that tag on, jumping through the flame Make you feel alive, keep you entertained And I'm cutting some, I promise, I'm cutting up Let's get straight to the truth. You want me, man. You know. That beat is crazy. Listen.
Starting point is 01:33:36 No, this is great. That's great, man. I want to go to the show when she's comfortable. Yeah. That's going to be amazing. That's going to be nice. And majority of these same fans will go to that show and this show. SZA should be coming sometime.
Starting point is 01:33:47 SZA, where are you? I know she's quiet. She ain't tricking me. She's coming, yo. She was just in the studio with Rodney Jerkins, someone. Last night. Well, that makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Man, people are coming, and I'm excited about Paul. Lucky Day is coming. Yeah, I've seen the Ohio Players cover. Oh my lord. Oh my lord. Next month. Lucky Day. Oh my lord.
Starting point is 01:34:14 I like the Ohio. Huh, Silk Sonic? Original music. That's beautiful. Original male R&B vocalist. Funny thing. That took time to create a whole new fucking song. Wow, yo.
Starting point is 01:34:27 What do you think you say that? Phenomenal concept from our greats. You say that, I think it's the same producer. I don't care. I don't care. He put a little snippet on this bad boy and whoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Ooh, you're going to call an ex. Oh, man. No, he ain't about to disappoint. He put out a project with features and it was fire. He just don't miss, man. You got to get me off of the Lucky Day bandwagon for me to be off of it. He's that dude. Yeah, he's that dude. I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Cannot wait. All right, what else is important? I can't get at nobody. No, we don't need to get at anyone. Dirk versus NBA Youngboy, no? Oh, man. NBA Youngboy versus YouTube and his label? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:35:14 He said that he generates $16 million a year from his YouTube that he don't touch. Like 1.4 a month. That is insanity bro that he's generating that much money that he can't capitalize off of no it's the music business yeah fortunately you had to sign it it's disgusting but it's predatory you signed it you were in a different position with different information different understanding and now you have to play it out and it is unfortunate because now you learned but you got to go through out and it is unfortunate because now you learned. But you got to go through it and learn.
Starting point is 01:35:48 I ain't going to hold you. I couldn't get on YouTube if I knew that. I couldn't. You're on YouTube. No. You're on YouTube now. I said if I'm him.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Everywhere, too. And I know that somebody's making that much money off of me. You're a YouTuber, bro. Are you making a lot of money on YouTube? Yeah, nah. Somebody's caking off you. Nah, for real. You're making a lot of money on YouTube. Somebody's caking off you. Nah, for real.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Give an opinion right now. Cook a muffin. That's nuts, yo. Think about that. You said you couldn't get on YouTube, though? If I knew it was a $17 million pie and I wasn't getting none of it, I could. Now, what if you're contractually obligated to get on YouTube? Then Staples just told us that they're paying them in attention and visibility. And this is more that.
Starting point is 01:36:27 He don't need it at his level. You do need it. You still need it. Your video has to play somewhere and there's no more 106 and Park. Man, fuck. Yo, he just came home. There's a reason he came home. There was some powers at play that he came home.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Because you are generating us $17 million a year. Fuck all that other shit. That's what I keep telling everybody else. We'll get you out play that he came home. Because you are generating us $17 million a year. Fuck all that other shit. That's what I keep telling everybody else. We'll get you out. He's coming home. You coming home, Cat Daddy. Today. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:53 All right? Them quarter enclosures looked a little different without that revenue. What state? Utah? Put them there. Put them in Wyoming, Wisconsin. Yeah. We'll be responsible for him.
Starting point is 01:37:04 They got mics out there, right? Cool. No, no. They didn't. They there Wyoming, Wisconsin. We'll be responsible for him. They got mics out there, right? Cool. No, no. They didn't. They there now, though. We got you the finest of mics shipped in. Word. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Now, you said him versus Dirk. I don't know. I'm a civilian. I ain't talking about that. I don't know. No idea. Just on the music side. Wow.
Starting point is 01:37:22 That happened? Just on the music side. I mean, I would be lying if I didn't say I love it nah Youngboy shit is hard the song on the music side music
Starting point is 01:37:30 just music Dirk drops a record Youngboy did no internet games like these kids usually do speaking of internet games I can't go ahead so the part that I like is
Starting point is 01:37:43 he just went and uploaded a track. He still ain't said shit else. Uploaded a track on YouTube. And I looked at the numbers. I think it was in like five hours, six hours or something. He had maybe seven million views on YouTube. Insane. So now where is that track supposed to debut if not on your YouTube?
Starting point is 01:38:05 See, because you're contractually obligated. Look at it now. It's at 10 million views. He got 10 million subscribers in two days. Yeah, that was just the other day. That guy's big. He got 10.7 million subscribers and this video has 10.2 million views. And he's financially not seeing a penny of it, which is a travesty.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Somebody need to go to jail. That's stealing. You want views. And he's financially not seeing a penny of it, which is a travesty. Somebody need to go to jail. That's stealing. You want to put Anna in jail? That's not stealing. You want to put, what's my man name? No, Anna shouldn't be in jail. The Tinder, Tinder, Tinder Swindler. Tinder Swindler.
Starting point is 01:38:35 You want to put him in jail? He shouldn't be in jail. But they not putting these niggas in jail. Anna should be good, man. Let him back on the day. They ain't putting these niggas in jail. And leave Anna alone. And a lot of times people will say I'm not getting paid.
Starting point is 01:38:48 And they really mean I'm not getting what I think I should be getting paid. That is true. They'll find out, oh shit, y'all making that much off of me? And I'm only getting this amount? Or I'm not seeing any money off of this. Oh, never mind. So I don't know. Yo, we trying.
Starting point is 01:39:03 Y'all trying me to do it. No, we trying. Y'all taking us home. Y'all trying me to do no we trying y'all taking us home y'all taking us home I got sleepers like I'm cool I'm cool it's just a tough day to pause
Starting point is 01:39:11 yeah it's tough to pause sometimes it's tough to come in here and talk about a bunch of shit when you got shit on your mind that you can't really talk about cause people that love you
Starting point is 01:39:19 tell you not to talk about exactly you're gonna thank us in the long run guarantee like yo Exactly. You're going to thank us in the long run. Guaranteed. Like, yo, good luck. Contrary to popular belief, I be feeling good when I blast these niggas. Alex Philby.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Alex, are you good, though? Alex Philby, yo. It's a little vindicate, man. Just let niggas know how you feel about something going on about your day, man. It's the young boys, man. Yeah, that's the young boys. But you can't behave a certain way because you got some money. No, you can't behave
Starting point is 01:39:50 a certain way because you want to get more money. Exactly. That's crazy, yo, but you right. You want more money, don't you?
Starting point is 01:39:58 Yeah. All right. Think about the other thing for a minute, nigga. Fuck. Remember Joe Clark took Sam's on the roof Go ahead G Go ahead Joe See I had a mean Joe Clark
Starting point is 01:40:15 Little punchline I wanted to get to too But you won't let me get to it Nice little Lean on me We good We good Fine
Starting point is 01:40:24 Alright Lean on me. We good. We good. We good. Fine. All right. Play lean on me as my sleeper, yo. That was my shit right there. That's your sleeper? I ain't sleeper time, is it? Oh, I'm like. I know what song this is. That's why.
Starting point is 01:40:38 Me too. I said. Who the fuck are you? Who the fuck are you? And what have you done? It's my nigga, my nigga, my nigga, my nigga. Yeah, I said, there's something wrong. The money even came.
Starting point is 01:40:55 I noticed a change. My nigga, my nigga, my nigga, my nigga. Yeah, yeah, let's kick. Something's wrong. What else we got? Oh, man. Oh, boy. Y'all are funny today.
Starting point is 01:41:13 I wish I was in... It's us. I wish I was in better spirits to really enjoy how funny y'all are. I know y'all really love me, but y'all niggas, like, when I'm down and out, y'all are funnier. Man, that's what you're supposed to do. How you back, yo? That's it. I know y'all really love me But y'all niggas Like when I'm down and out Y'all are funnier Man That's what you're supposed to do How you back yo That's it
Starting point is 01:41:29 That's it That's it I'd expect that from y'all Probably won't get it but Mic check one two one two Mic check one one, two, one, two Mic check, one, two, one, two, one, two, one, two Unfortunately, yeah, I got some niggas with me that love me And won't let me have any fun on the podcast on this audio adventure They gon' tear us up, too
Starting point is 01:41:57 Nah, they gon' kill y'all, yo Shout out to all the lovers out there Shout out to everybody feeling good, feeling great Everybody securing their friendship in their rollouts Here we go What they do They smother in your face All the time they wanna take your place
Starting point is 01:42:20 The backstabbers Backstabbers They smother in your face All the time they wanna take your place The backstab us Backstab us Smiling in your face All the time they wanna take your place To backstab us Backstab us Meek Mill Ran into something with his producer
Starting point is 01:42:36 Come on, give a fuck Break it down, Lice What the fuck is y'all talking about? I ran into something with some Meek's producer One of his labels And who produced that shit, yo? Fuck is y'all talking about? I remember something. Meek's producer. Well, producer signed to his label. And who produced that shit, yo?
Starting point is 01:42:49 I'm going to smack the shit out of him. Gentleman by the name of Hit Kid Joe. We good? Go ahead. Your friend won't never be loyal. You get the shit smacked out of you, niggas. You better shut up. You better mind your business.
Starting point is 01:43:04 Niggas always jump in some shit oh we can never be friends again I'm gonna shoot you like them niggas is family a little bit you nigga you just singing a hook you just coming in
Starting point is 01:43:16 saying some shit reading some shit off a paper smack the shit out what's that nigga name no we good we straight anyway Meeks
Starting point is 01:43:23 producer yeah one of the producers no that producer. We trying, fam. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Gentleman named Hit Kid went on Instagram. He said, I'll read his quote. I represented this record label very well for three years, and nobody stood on business.
Starting point is 01:43:40 I never said nothing about having help nor asked for a handout. You've made plenty statements about signing slave deals and labels not doing their jobs so i ponder as to why my situation isn't better i wish you gave me the same expectations you expect from the label that you're assigned to i don't want no clout for this i need people to do their jobs i feel like kanye when he walked in the Rockefeller building. Yeah, when you put a new dock out,
Starting point is 01:44:06 niggas want to get it. They relate, and they relate. Hey, you can't even put a dock out without niggas making it sensitive city time, yo.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Oh my God, I have to relive this every day. Yo, one day I'm going to talk about that for real. You have to relive. You got to live. All right, go ahead. Well, yeah, I'm going to talk about that for real you got to relive you got to live
Starting point is 01:44:25 go ahead well yeah Meek responded to this and said pretty much why are you doing this on the internet well hold on and then he replied back and said well I tried to reach out
Starting point is 01:44:43 but I don't have a contact on you. So this is kind of the only way I could put this out here. Nah, fuck that. I don't care. Why you on the internet, nigga? I don't care if you right, yo. I ain't here to be right now. But if I have a problem with you and I'm signed to you and I can't reach you
Starting point is 01:45:05 but I want to talk to you about this problem you know what I support everybody's right to free expression not me that's it then you know what
Starting point is 01:45:14 that's where I am not me everybody express the things that you need to express how you need to express them you fucking goofs you fucking goofy expressive niggas. Tell a therapist.
Starting point is 01:45:29 Come on, what else we got? Oh, dream changers. Yo, what? I want to hear what you got. No, I just think that, I think it's just etiquette. I just think as grown men. Yeah, you too mature to pod. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:45:40 No, no, I want to hear what you got. Niggas need to learn some shit. Fuck you talking about. Yo, you take this to a public forum. You saying, do y'all follow each other on the gram? Y'all follow each other on Twitter? If you follow a nigga on Twitter, you could jump in a DMs and say, yo, dog, I need to holler at you.
Starting point is 01:45:55 Shoot me a math. Okay. You can't just say, yo, I don't got your number. I don't got your contact information. Unless you've exhausted, not saying that he did or didn't, unless you've exhausted all those avenues to get in contact with me. If you really want to have a conversation, nigga, let's have a conversation. You wouldn't let me have a conversation. I wouldn't let you have a conversation publicly to people that don't have
Starting point is 01:46:16 nothing to do with your business. Good point. So these niggas have a personal relationship and a working relationship. I'm going to exhaust all my options to get in contact with you before I take it public. Now, if you have done that, then you're okay with doing this.
Starting point is 01:46:30 But if he did all that, then why would Meek say, yo, why you doing this online? I just like it because Meek always goes online. I know. To people that he might not be able to have a conversation with.
Starting point is 01:46:42 But I like him doing it and saying, why you doing that? I'm sorry, I do. That's funny. I think it's good to see him on the other side of that why you on the internet yeah see his exact words his words to me were
Starting point is 01:46:56 his words were yo I tried to personally tell you one on one but couldn't get a contact if I feel like I'm wrong I'll apologize how I made this post. I just wanted things to be done better. I don't. Nigga, which means you ain't exhaust your options. You was really clout chasing, in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:47:15 That's just my opinion. You ain't really exhaust your options. Well, guess what beats won't be on the new Meek album. Word. I'll tell you that one. Oh, you mad about something? Watch this. And you still signed to me.
Starting point is 01:47:26 So, good luck. Yeah, and then he did that old, how could you say that to Atlantic and then have us in this situation? Nope. I quit partying this week. I'm done. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:47:41 Finished. I'm finished. I don't have nothing positive to say about nobody. We don't need the negative. Not about nobody. Nah, done finishing. I'm finished. I don't have nothing positive to say about nobody. We don't need the negative. Not about nobody. Nah, we chilling. Not about nobody. Y'all tried it this week.
Starting point is 01:47:50 Y'all tried to make it 2014 again during Black History Month, you motherfuckers. No, we are out of here. March is coming. It is too close to the spring. Niggas got other problems going on. You know what's ill? All the shit that niggas got going on. You can't talk to a girl about nothing.
Starting point is 01:48:04 Yo, you can't talk to a girl about nothing, bitch. Yo, you know I need to take a dump. Hey, yo, Aki. Come on. STK. STK, I know. Come on. STK, he got us. All right, listen.
Starting point is 01:48:15 I don't have a take on anything. Peace, love, thoughts, prayers, condolences, love, light, darkness, lust, violence to all. Violence to all. Yeah, and that's it, yo. Everybody's doing what they gotta do out here, and I support everyone's right to expression.
Starting point is 01:48:36 Now, sleepers? We could go there if you want to. Sleepers. And remember, if they're really sleeping on your shit, you can just throw my name out there. Fucking paint it any type of way you want. Motherfuckers, man. Play a sleeper, man.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Play a sleeper, Joe. You know what? I can't. I am. I am going to play a sleeper. God damn it. Same time, same place on Wednesday I said
Starting point is 01:49:10 Who the fuck are you? Who the fuck are you? And what have you done with my nigga? Yeah, I said Something's wrong The money even came I noticed a change My nigga, my nigga, my nigga, my nigga Yeah, let's kick it
Starting point is 01:49:32 Something's wrong Diary of a loyal nigga When I vow, I'm down until it dies It's in my heart, it's something no tattoo Cause a little fire's like God Little fire made death his child If you question my loyalty, that's just like questioning God Remind yourself that when you say you looking for me
Starting point is 01:49:50 You lying to yourself Nigga, I'm famous, fuck, I'm gonna hire that You looking for you, and I hope you find yourself Niggas thinking and blowing bud together Drinking and calling each other bro And cuz the definition of showing love Talking about salute and respect Man, that shit don't mean a goddamn thing to me
Starting point is 01:50:06 Especially if you a fuck nigga, fuck nigga And to all my so-called friends calling yourselves neutral Sayin' you stayin' out of it, you need to quit frontin' You either with me or against me You gon' realize it next time you need me for somethin' I said, who the fuck are you? Who the fuck are you? And what have you done with my nigga?
Starting point is 01:50:28 Yeah, I said that something's wrong The money even came, I noticed the change My nigga, my nigga Something's wrong Can't lie, end of the, was all your joke to you Which made you feel entitled like shit was owed to you It's mandated, some things you just supposed to do You fucked me so hard it was easy to see the hole in you
Starting point is 01:50:54 On the record, certain shit is expected Like die for it if you rep it, you don't and we won't respect it I'm talking real nigga ethics, if I'm down pick me up Not step on me to get it, pickme-up Where did you pick this stuff? Let the money change everything around you And if it don't happen now, then it's bound to I don't need a jury to decide You kick dirt on my name
Starting point is 01:51:14 I'll just assume you tryin' to bury it alive Stand by your word, if retracting is weak Don't sell your soul to the devil And come back with receipts Now you broke and left for trail But we contracted a seat And though you ain't leaving me a choice, that's how I read the police Who the fuck are you?
Starting point is 01:51:30 Who the fuck are you? And what have you done with my nigga? Yeah, I said that something is wrong The money done came came I noticed the change My nigga Something's wrong You're not listening to A-Rod Music New Japan
Starting point is 01:52:02 You're not listening to A-Rod Music. What we got? Uncle Charlie Wilson just dropped a record. Hey. It's called No Stopping Us. It's Charlie Wilson, Johnny Gill, Babyface, and KC. Wow. Johnny Gill Babyface and KC You a number that the world can't comprehend What you think in Sanria? I see you living ballerina You take me higher than a plane Got me tipsy on your love like sweet champagne
Starting point is 01:52:52 Let's keep the music playing While we dance all night Never letting go Cause there ain't no stopping us now We're feeling good, and as long as you're here with me Every day gon' be a birthday party Ain't no stopping us now They wish they could turn it up here on the floor
Starting point is 01:53:20 And there ain't no stopping us now I'll take you down to Acapulco And we can get a little loco Lay on the beach, don't need no plans Kick back all day with our feet in the sand And mami got some adinero She's turning heads in that sombrero From Mexico to the calzón
Starting point is 01:53:41 Having fun and the best is yet to come Let's keep the music playing While we dance all night Never letting go, we're feeling good Ain't no stopping us now We're feeling good And as long as you're here with me Everyday gon' be a birthday party
Starting point is 01:54:04 Ain't no stopping us now Ain't no stopping us now Ain't no stopping us now Keep the music playing Keep on celebrating People all around the world Let's make a toast Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, And as long as you're here with me Every day gonna give her a big body hit Ain't no stopping us now No stopping us
Starting point is 01:54:49 They wish they could Turn it up here on the floor And there ain't no stopping us now Ain't no stopping us now No stopping us Yeah, that's No Stopping Us. Charlie Wilson, Baby Pace, KC, Johnny Gill. Okay. And I can't let nobody know League. Like a stainless bitch, I got every stone in my hand Used to stand in front of that store with the pole in my pants Now I'm parked right in front of that same store in the land
Starting point is 01:55:48 I'm a motherfuckin' legend, nigga And I ain't have to sell my soul to sell no records, nigga I wrote some of the illest verses ever and shifted the culture But I probably never get the credit, nigga But part of me hope I never do Cause if I'm already called the best ever, then shit is left to do Why you think all my shit so electric when I step and boo? My tweet got taken out of context, they think I left the group
Starting point is 01:56:11 Yeah, it's so much more, it's so much more Don't let them put me in no box cause I'm so much more I'm so much more, I'm so much more I'm so much more, listen Don't confuse me, it's just another rap I'm so much more than I'm so much more, listen Don't confuse me, it's just another rapper I'm so much more than that, more than that I'm more than that, don't let him tell you one side of the story It's so much more than that, more than that
Starting point is 01:56:33 It's my side of the story though, nigga Look, I heard this beat and I floated Told him I was next, I ain't just talk about it I showed it, first heard me on Hitler 2 Put the industry on notice Haulin' ass tape, reject two, then I was golden Spent 200 of my own bread, givin' back during COVID Frontlines, feedin' families, niggas ain't even promoted Winning coats for the kids and hot meals for the homeless
Starting point is 01:56:57 They post me gettin' arrested, but this side of me, they never show it They hear the songs about how we be sellin' dope in the shootouts We just products of our environment, you know this I never DM'd a rapper my cover and asked him to throw it on his pages I was too focused on staying focused I think that's a bogus way to try to get noticed When people organically fuck with your music that's a bonus But to each his own then I'd rather grind myself That's a key component Like I told Skeez, you gotta seize the moment
Starting point is 01:57:25 Don't ever let a nigga think you need him Or owe him, nigga, go for yours Cause it's a chance when a business relationship Just get infected like an open sword They going on these podcasts, talking about what you owe them for That 360 attractive to most is rappers Modern day slaves, them crackers own all the masters Facts, my nigga, used to fill my glass up The Henny for a J got D'Ussé Why my people still buying Henny for? It's so much more, it's so much more
Starting point is 01:57:52 Don't let them put me in a mess Kind of way the machine The album's really good, man Really, really good He was talking Yeah, I'm looking forward to it I told you I'm gonna go check that out Yeah
Starting point is 01:58:04 The things I've heard You're gonna fuck with it Yeah No question looking forward to it. I told you I'm going to go check that out. Yeah. The things I've heard. You're going to fuck with it. Yeah. No question. Shouts to him again. What you got for us, Ish? Rust, new song, What Are Y'all? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:58:15 Oh, okay. Yeah. What are y'all? Yeah. Used to think my takeoff time was a delayed departure Trust the journey, if you rush it, you gon' make it harder You can lose your place when you try to flip the pages farther 700,000 for an hour, that's the latest offer
Starting point is 01:58:33 I put the work and had to earn my credentials I wrote the book on independence, I'm on my third presidential It's essential I shut up, it's what y'all think, right? But standing down never really sit right Big fight coming up, me versus myself The people's champion, there ain't no reverse in my belt I keep on earning wealth, ain't no telling where the roof is Staying on the straight and narrow, curving rappers' muses
Starting point is 01:58:51 Limits are illusions and I'm Bradley Cooper Watching Trey drop 40-quart size so close I can alley-oop, you haven't taken Uber in years All my drivers with suits, every drink is a cheers Predicted this, I'm a seer, can't operate out of fear I choose optimism, universe be talking so I gotta listen Trying to work it out with her, she end up in the squad position Me, I'm doing hip thrust, can't operate out of fear, I choose optimism Universe be talking so I gotta listen, trying to work it out with her She end up in the squad position, me I'm doing hip thrusts
Starting point is 01:59:08 Then I get my, suck, ripping up the script of the industry's guidelines and rules They don't want me in the game, just sidelines and boos Lot of claws at the plazas, how come all the workers keep on talking like bosses? I'm a star though regardless of the narrative If you don't own your music I'm not hearing comparisons Man this shit is embarrassing, I don't care who the hottest are If you cannot sell out an arena by yourself in America And somewhere overseas you are not a star
Starting point is 01:59:28 Overlooking me doesn't change shit I'm the modern day prince, face it I'm free Look at me, look how easy I breathe Your career's on life support, it's clear you need the machine I rage against it Killing in the name of independence, which threatens The evil empire, so respect is obligatory This a classic like a Christmas story
Starting point is 01:59:43 Watching these adults swim upstream to get streams as comedy like Rick and Morty And sometimes I feel like fuck them all Cause if a Forbes list cash king Six times platinum Twenty plaques in arenas packed in Isn't a star then what are y'all? What are y'all? Cause if a Forbes list cash king
Starting point is 01:59:58 Six times platinum Twenty plaques in arenas packed in Isn't a star then what are y'all? For real I guess Russ answered the superstar question. Yeah, right? Shout out to Russ. What are y'all?
Starting point is 02:00:10 Russ is great. He's been on the road. He just put out an album in December. He's got like six new singles or something. And he answered our little superstar question. Vince listened to the podcast and texted me to say, yo, I heard the whole argument. Them niggas is bugging. Punch hit me today
Starting point is 02:00:25 laughing because he got me tight at that superstar little fucking thing. Jiggy conversation. Shout out to Punch. Shout out to Vince. Cardi retweeted in support. Called me Unc. I'm Unc now. Uncle Joe. You been Uncle Joe. You started that.
Starting point is 02:00:42 It's official now though. When niggas with 100 million followers say something it's just true like you can't fight hey wait a second fuck it it is what it is
Starting point is 02:00:52 that's like that's why I'm Joe Buttons somewhere just can't argue two S's no it's a little three D's hey man
Starting point is 02:00:59 that's not my legacy's name that's not my yeah no um yeah Russ been killing it, though. We are getting out of here. I'm thankful for y'all. I am.
Starting point is 02:01:10 I am. I am. I'm angry about it in the moment, but I am thankful for you guys, man, because I'll come in here. I know. I'll do it. We can't let you do that, bro.
Starting point is 02:01:23 Yeah, I'll just forget about all the success and fucking just revert. Revert right back to the Perk 30. I'll get right back. And they'd be relying on me to get the Perk 30. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I've evolved. I've aged.
Starting point is 02:01:39 I'll just go shopping. I don't know what you're doing. That sounds so corny, yo. No, it don't. What they do. Yo, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. My apologies if this was a short part.
Starting point is 02:01:56 I wasn't feeling the greatest, man. Shit happens, but we got through it. And I really appreciate that. Until next time, I bid you adieu, farewell, adios, arrivederci, hasta la vista, au revoir, ahoy, mates, and all of that good shit. Remember, life is a series of moments, and moments pass. And when those moments pass, you should be able to identify why they passed and not be angry at people that you love. Look to hurt people that you love. Look to hurt people that you love. Remember, victims create victims, hurt people create hurt people, and you don't have to live that way if
Starting point is 02:02:30 you don't have to. Blessings to those of you that don't. We're going, man. Head on a swivel at all times. 2022 is not done. 2022 is. Do you owe your friends respect? We love y'all, man. Oh shit man Just when I thought the pod was over They bringing batteries in here I'm getting charged up Nah I'm getting charged up now What they do
Starting point is 02:03:18 Y'all hold it down out there Everybody have an amazing weekend I hope you enjoyed this podcast As much as we enjoyed giving it to you. Shout out to maturation, maturity, evolution, progression, positivity. Shout out to all of that shit, man. And we gone. Y'all hold it down out there.
Starting point is 02:03:45 Shout out to Rollout Sometimes Troll out Troll out Spotting your face I know me Shout out to the therapist, man Dirty life
Starting point is 02:03:56 She won't stop getting paid As long as niggas keep treating me like this Da da da Da da da Da da da, da da da De la da da, might be your neighbor

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