The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 522 | "Code of Conduct"

Episode Date: March 30, 2022

Will Smith and Chris Rock have dominated the news cycle and the guys recap the slap heard around the world (8:25). Joe and the crew also discuss Tyler Perry's role-playing as Madea (1:28:50), Benny the Butcher and Freddie Gibbs tension (1:36:15), and T.I. quitting podcasting because it wasn't lucrative enough (1:43:05). Next a friend of the show and actor, Omar Epps joins the pod (1:50:20) +MORE!   Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks  Joe | Savannah Ré - “Best Is Yet To Come” Ice | Nigo & Tyler, The Creator - “Come On, Let’s Go” Parks | Superior & Stove God Cooks - “161” Ish | Mahalia - “Whatever Simon Says”

Let me know when we live, Parks. We live. We been live. Yo, you will sneak and hit the button. I will. You want me to intro the pot? Yeah. Yeah, actually.

Let's get it, Ish. Give us one. Have you learned about energy yet or no? I could do all that, fam. That's your job, though. But I could do it if could do all that fam that's your job though but i could do it if need be oh wait what's my job the energy thing wait we all we all have energy what do you mean no but i don't have to exhibit mine in a way that you do yours you'll be you're on your coachy shit what so you're the first friend to actually finally

let's go let's go let's go, let's go. But I do that. I'm going to get buckets, coach. But then I mean. It's like, yo, magic come out. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But if need be, you could be energy. Yeah, of course. All right.

Well, I'm just saying to intro to pod, you need some energy. I know. All right. So I'm shutting up. Now you got it, though. No. Go ahead. You back.

I thought you was getting your music. I'm not ready yet. Go ahead. No, no. This is great. Nah, because we here today. I saw you drop the song. We here today. Are you good? But it's not just that. I need a third. Like, I need to do. I'm not ready yet. Go ahead. No, no, this is great. Nah, because we here today. I saw you drop the song. We here today.

Are you good or what? But it's not just that. I need a third. Let me do what I'm doing over here. Let me feel. You know what I mean? Get your shit on. Nah, you got it.

So you're not going to intro us? Ice, take it away, man. Oh, no, no. I didn't do it. No, no, I don't want Ice to do it. I don't want Ice to do it. I want Ice. It's got to be Ice.

We going on tour, dog. Yeah, man. I'm straight. I'm good. You can't do that on the road. You got to be out here with it, man. Fam, I'm good. If you think I'm going to be. You gotta be out here with it, man. Fam, I'm good. If you think I'ma be doing cartwheels all across that stage while you sit back licking your

fucking lips, you got me all over. Now, let me tell you something, buddy. Alright. I saw some of your other tours. I saw some of your other tours. Talk to your man. Ice, I'm telling you something, yo. Talk to your man. I saw some of your other tours. There wasn't no cartwheels going on. You came out with your smoke jacket on, you know'm saying on your fred g sanford shit and you

made it happen i saw it listen this could be our first intro let's pod we don't need an intro no i'm still debating about whether i want to have one but we don't really need one like we can get right to it y'all know what we're here to talk about. So let's get to it. Go Peacocks, man. Round of applause. How about that? Come on.

Y'all know where I'm at with it. You know where I'm at with it. St. Peter's. Doubly applause. Yeah, man. Huh? Jersey City shit. Yeah, that's where I'm at with it.

Shout out Jersey City. Shout out to the Peacocks. Hell of a run. They're getting a parade. They're getting a parade. I might just pull up, man. Yeah. They're getting a parade.

They're getting a parade. That's dope. Jersey City was my first New York hole. Nah, that's super dope, man, considering that program, the athletics, I think, if I read correctly, what, 1.6 million dedicated versus teams with 20 million top scouts and top prospects. Like, come on, man. Yeah, we didn't give them their proper respect while it was happening because we were just podding.

Not just that. We watched the game after the pod. We watched the game after the pod. We were so invested. Yeah, we weren't. But that was a national story, and they deserve all the credit in the world. That's amazing. They do.

Come on, man. Shout out to Shaw. Absolutely. Yeah. Shaw make me feel old, though. Why? Do you remember when he played? Yeah.

He was in high school with me. Well, no, I was in high school before him. You know, he wasn't in it with you. I'm serious. Because he was in the McDonald's game with Kobe in 96. I was in high school in 96. I know. Well, I wasn't in with you cause he was in the McDonald's game with Kobe in 96 I was in high school in 96 I know

well I wasn't but you're supposed to be you're supposed to be I was supposed to be I was three years behind yo niggas don't drop out no more why I don't hear from them what do they start doing

not potting niggas drop out you just don't know yeah they don't have a voice. Oh, listen, if pods existed back then, I would have had the most

lit pod ever. Literally, probably. To drop out of school and pod about your experience outside of school. Are you kidding me? That was my first time getting head. That was my first time two girls liking me. That was my first time. Let's hit the liquor store. The FCC would have thrown you in the Hudson River.

They know FCC is a pot game. There wasn't no FCC thinking about shit until 9-11. Nah. How was Sterling? This was getting fined and all that before that? Yeah, it's true. Nah, they cracked down when I was on Hot 97.

When I got there, it was a whole new rule implemented because something else had happened. Something happened. Somebody pissed somebody off. Somebody said some shit. Star was there before you? Oh, that was the titty. What year did Janet do the titty? That was...

Yeah, that was... Nah. Was Star there before you? What, at Hot? Yeah. He was there before you? Yeah. He was still there when you was there or no?

No. So that might have been it. Something happened. Yeah Yeah cause he was wild You know Star had them niggas That's when they introduced A delay But anyway We not getting into all that

Until he was 04 Come on we got shit To talk about man Shout out to Star man Yeah OG Cut I would like some encore, yeah we like it raw I would like some encore, yeah we like it raw I would like some encore, yeah we like it raw

I would like some encore, yeah we like it raw Aw you kids don't know how much trouble this record caused back in the day All the fellas on the corner, broke it up 20 feet With your F on your F, ready to flip Whenever your F get cut, droop That record still does that to me Sheesh, what? We need to just pod about records that made you Fight or smack the shit out of somebody

It could be a whole MOP set I got a whole playlist of those Literally called fight music Send it to me please That was 1994 This was not 94 That would have been 1994

Club Eleganza, 16th Avenue, North New Jersey. Eleganza. With niggas outside with guns bigger than Bow Wow, for real. Did they have switches?

No. Nah. They had fingers. And you will get your fucker. That nigga said, Eleganza. Mic check, one, two, one, two Mr. Energy is here, lay back, ish Chill out, get reserved, kick your feet up

Rely on me Mic check, one, two, one, two, one, two, one, two Feeling good, feeling great Here it is, the groove slightly transformed Just a bit of a break from the norm Just a little something to break the monotony Boy, did he break it A little bit

Out of control, it's cool to dance But what about a good time Will is that dude, man I don't know if I'm here to defend him Or kick his back in I'm probably gonna waver Give me a little bit of both. A little bit of both.

Why? Because he might see you next. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it.

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Hey! No, sir. Take that somewhere else. Microphone check, one, two, what is this? Another doggy. This part, this part, this part, this part. What's that? The hood! You are so good. Welcome to episode 522 of the Joe Budden Podcast I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, and highly favored host

Joe Budden here with a few of my nearest and dearest Parks is here, Brother Ish is here, Ice is here Young boys in the back, y'all here? Yeah Alright, before we get to the important matters at hand, we are going on tour. April 28th, Houston, Texas. May 1st, we're in Dallas.

You know the vibes. May 28th, we are in LA. And May 29th, Oakland, California. Tickets are on sale right now. Round of applause. Yes, sir. Oh, shit. Who's number?

Yeah, yo, yo. Hey, man. Hey, man. They won't even clap.com is where you can get your we will see you I swear I hate him man we'll see you on the road get tickets bring a plus one

we gonna have a blast and that's that man alright let's get right to it. The smack heard around the world. No, you know what? I ain't starting here. Well, we're starting with that topic, but y'all wasn't here.

Is anybody going to tell me I'd be right? About what now? That's why I love parks. And that's why I love parks. I was going to ask the same question. Well, you could ask that. And you could ask that. Joe Budden's Will Smith conversation started where and how many years ago?

And what was he saying? You've been on him for a minute. I started it. Yeah, you probably did. I started it. No one else was on that. It was me. I don't know what that is. Well, I'm going to tell you, you probably did. I started it. You probably did. No one else was on that. It was me. I don't know what that is.

Well, I'm going to tell you, brother. Gotcha. But I want to highlight his ass for a second. Oh, go ahead. Because he does this often. He'd be there for the birth of some wild shit, Joe says. He'd be part of the crowd that laughs and scoffs and mimics and, oh, just to fuck up crazy and adds to that narrative. And then when it come

around and be right it'd be this so let me tell you what i said ish i said i'm sick of will smith oh you've said that since we've been here it's been consistent for me since before elliot did that interview and it's twofold. It's nuanced, right? But it correlates. Follow me. What I was saying was Will Smith, Hollywood megastar, has now introduced himself into content world. And he does that with his big production, with tools that all of us are not privy to with some of that effect shit he was doing. He was putting the Hollywood shit in the clips.

He was. He started jumping from over here, jumping from over here. Drones on the building. And Joe's issue with that was the same as the OnlyFans workers when Shorty came on there charged all that bullshit fucked up the game and disappeared and now they can't charge what they want to charge they used to charge whatever they want now it's a hundred dollar max some of y'all understand what I'm saying that was my issue there right like damn how many of you big budget Hollywood niggas the same thing the comedians were saying about T.I. Well, some of them were saying he shouldn't be doing it.

But y'all just fuck up the market. Right. So then I was saying. Well, wait a second. He sure is dropping a lot of content. Y'all think that's normal? And nigga said, nah, he got a film company.

He got a... I said... So y'all don't think nothing is underneath him just jumping off the buildings and bridges. They said, no. And I said, something's funny.

Something's off there. And that's my other beef with him hopping in the content world. Because now if you're going to come over here as Will Smith, I want to see you be humanized. And you are not coming over here. I thought I was going to be Zinjaman Button. I told you I was out of here. And you're not going to come over here

jumping off the fucking Williamsburg Bridge and act like everything is just so picture perfect Hollywood glitzy glammy. Nah, I know Fresh Prince prince and i'm a man i'm a man you know what i'm a human and our greatest gift that we totally don't use at all or take advantage of or even act like we have is you guessed it empathy it's one of our greatest

strengths as a human you know what that word means I do you know what that word means to vicariously identify with someone else's experience we don't use that shit at all no i do and if you use that and then just

start looking around at shit that ain't look right watch your kids grow up we have watched you we know you and we see the internet jokes and some jokes have truth. I've been on the butt of a lot of them. On the internet, shit be funny. You ever had some funny shit on the internet? Real life affect your household though? It'd be real. And some of that shit, if you empathize, you can't just be wanting to jump

from buildings and bridges. No way. I ain't buying it. I ain't buying it. It's just some shit I'm not buying. And now here we are. Well, wait, if you saw him on the red table shit,

if you a man and you watched that whole thing, we don't have to get into it, but if you a man and you watch that whole thing we don't have to get into it but if you a man and you watched all that that went on and you empathize boy you could understand some shit right it just make you look at it differently am i off come on talk to me no no no you you're right you're right you're 100 right right I mean, I don't want to make it seem like I'm some fucking psychic superhero. I am not. But if you just empathize with what some of these celebrities

go through, and I have the big and little joke. I have joke-a-joke-a-deuce because I know some of these people and I've been in some of these spaces and I, like... And you've experienced it personally. It's a cheat code when I say it, so it's easy to disregard me. Horrible messenger. Excellent message. Look what God did to y'all. That's fucked. Yeah, and that. Like, it's a cheat code when I say it, so it's easy to disregard me. Horrible messenger.

Excellent message. Look what God did to y'all. That's fucked up how he did that. That's just some horrible shit to say. But where was I? It was a good point. Talk about empathy. Just empathy, man.

We don't have to get too deep into it. Now, where do we want to begin here? Now, my only thing, though, real quick, what you said about Will, you said you want to see him humanized. The same thing. Through his content. Hey, the same thing, and we heard that from him. We heard that from him as he told the Jay-Z story about

Hov seeing him smack dude on the red carpet. I think he told that. It might have been Elliot. He told it to somebody where he said, Hov called me and said, yo, me and B almost thought about missing the, we had the Oscars or some shit to go to tomorrow. We thought about missing it just to stay home and watch you smack do. It was so great to see you humanize that way. Like this is not a, this is not a, this thought has been out there about Will Smith.

But what I'm saying is, even though people might want to see that, he don't owe that to nobody. Well, who said that? No, no, I'm just, some people really want to keep that part of them to themselves but when you jump in the content game and you're going to be a podcaster or what it's not really relatable to the masses to have you jumping off the highest building in dubai or to only show you doing miraculous shit and ice let me point out the line that exists between the between the customer that don't know where the ghost is popping out in the haunted house at the carnival and the customer that does right most of these people's favorite celebrities they know absolutely nothing about by design.

They don't even know that. Or they might know a different a lot of the fans. A lot of the fans have no idea that they know absolutely nothing about their favorite celebrity. They only know whatever

they came up with in the science room to let you know. But some people don't. But some people don't celebrity ism but some people don't so when you say you don't owe it well yeah you don't owe it you're black excellent you're the smiths you are will smith you don't owe nobody shit you him already but don't think that i'm the naive consumer to not know that something is being perfectly packaged to me and for me it's always introspection means dig deep let's look below that this is not the perfect i don't want to dig too deep into how you just could tell it's not the most perfect thing. But there was mad shit to let you know. Dysfunction is around.

Uh-huh. So then don't perfect pitch me to death. Your wife has a show centered around therapy. Yet there's dysfunction around. You clearly need therapy. Probably already has. Not enough. Not enough. Not enough.

He ain't had enough. He has had nowhere near enough. And if you looking at just, if you've been watching him, nigga, when you had the time to get the therapy that you need, that was one of the things I took notice at the event.

After the whole kerfuffle, now the reports come out that the public took notice at the event after the whole kerfuffle now the reports come out that the publicist is at the table oh well somebody didn't do their fucking job if this is real and we'll get to that in a second but if this is real and now the internet know that hey hey, it might have been smoke from 2016. You know whose job it was to be aware of that? In the moment? Somebody on your team. The fucking publicists that now is rushed to the table

in the moment of crisis to do their job. A lot of people getting paid to not do their job. But in defense of the publicist, when people putting on the facade, like it's all gravy, you kind of don't think that there's no smoke there. You get what I'm saying? So if you,

if you like to your error somewhere, yeah, to your point, some way there's an error. If you saying that y'all, I'm straight i'm straight i'm straight i'm straight i'm perfect i'm happy i'm fun i'm da da da da da the publicist is like all right good we good here so now i'm watching this shit and i and now i'm sitting in bed jealous as hell oh my god you ever just reek of envy and jealousy and feel it? I am in bed so envious.

My whole life flashed before my eyes. I'm thinking, yo, if I had fucking Denzel Washington to pop up in all my worst moments in life, I'd be fucking Batman. Oh, there's nothing that good you didn't sound fucking Tyler Perry yo y'all talk y'all talk

stop being an asshole y'all talk you talk somebody y'all talk I was watching the Oscars me and the wife I'm on Twitter as you normally do

when you're watching the award show and she's like what the fuck was that like what she's like Will what the fuck was that? I'm like, what? She's like, Will Smith just punched Chris Rock in the face. And then they do all the scramble screen.

It's cut off. The mic's just cut off. I see him walking away. That's why you got to love 2022. Even listen to the sentence. Yo. Scramble screen. Will Smith just smashed the shit out of Chris Rock.

That is such a wild sentence, go ahead yeah then they you know in the scramble screen they kind of replayed it for a second then switched back like there's a pretty bad edit scramble at the moment

which I understand and then of course I went to Twitter and you know they had to recap there immediately I honestly had no idea what the fuck to think

see I wasn't even watching it I just saw my phone blow up you would have thought I got smacked the way my shit went on fire. Like, yo, I'm like, what the fuck are y'all talking about? Mine, too. I'm sitting there trying to have FaceTime sex.

Now everybody's trying to call. Like, God damn. No, somebody sent me a Japanese uncut version text. That went around pretty quick. And I was like, huh? And then I thought it was fake at first until he started with the curse words. And I was like, eh, maybe.

But, I mean, I don't know. I don't think it was fake. I don't think it was fake. I think Will's fed the fuck up. And he said, not you, not here, not tonight. I'm gonna do something. I'm back and forth. Part of me, because I think everything is fake. I think it's all smoke and mirrors. I mean, it is something. I'm back and forth. Part of me, because I think everything is fake.

I think it's all smoke and mirrors. I mean, it is Hollywood. It is Hollywood. These are two gentlemen that are fucking masters of the art of film and production and all that shit. So I get it. I get it. It's possible. I'm just looking at the approach. Chris Rock standing, hands behind his back.

Looks like he leaned in. It's almost like he knew it was coming. The more I watch it, I just like, ah, he looked standing hands behind his back, looks like he leaned in. It's almost like he knew it was coming. The more I watch it, I just like, I feel like he leaned in like he thought he was going to say something to him.

I thought he thought he thought something was going to whisper in his ear. Yeah. And I've smacked people before. I've actually been Will before. I've been in this situation where someone who I'm cool with

or kind of cool with said some shit that someone I, you know, that I didn't like and they thought it was all good when I walked up on them. So I shit that someone I didn't like and they thought it was all good when I walked up on them. So I don't think that that part

disproves anything. Y'all just the smackers. I'm just saying. I've smacked before and I've never smacked with my hand like that. It was always like spread fingers. Why didn't you invent drill? I had no switches. Yeah, I had a switch.

Yeah. Switch came a little late. That was the worst smack I've ever seen in my life. I don't think it was meant to be a, I'm trying to kill you smack. It was just a, you're not about to say this here now today. No, not you. Not here. Not today.

I think it's, Ice thinks it's a rollout. I think everything's a rollout, first rollout i think everything's a rollout first off and most things are a rollout i want this to be real ice gotta give me more motive it's a hard i mean i need a hard one to go to yeah in court we just need more motive for that versus especially when you put it versus maybe you show Will is just fed the fuck up. Well, no. Ice introduces a lot of things that in court I'm going to call circumstantial. The leaning. You know, in the slow-mo

everybody can see Chris Rock leans in. He braced his face. Tighten his jaw look like. I don't think that's because it was produced. I think that's because Chris Rock is from New York, New Jersey. And you know, we'll have a good idea when somebody's taking that long of a walk. Actually, where is my fucking Jill Scott?

Taking that long of a walk. And you can see, I'm sure you can see something in Will's face. Also, that's Chris Rock, yo. So you don't think Wait, wait, hold up, hold up, hold up, and I'm gonna throw it right back. That's Chris Rock. Chris Rock, they call on him to get up there and do this.

He got all the relationships. His movies go. He writes them. He produces them. He's up. It's not like he needs this for his brand like he's his cachet is far beyond this also i want to say the same thing exists for will packer will packer is not out here giving you murder mystery gangy gangy violence will packer is giving you fucking black excellence

he wouldn't write this in this in this seat alright one thing I don't think I think the only two people that knew this was gonna happen if it was fake were them two

they wouldn't do it to Will Packer that's what I'm saying they wouldn't do that to him nor do I think they would do that for themselves even if you wanna make the argument for will that exists

and your argument about Chris Rock not selling tickets. I don't care about that part. Him not selling tickets is, this is Hollywood. This is the Oscars. This is their big stage, their private club. The black people in here are the black people we let in. We familiar with them. Samuel L. Jackson got his first Oscar round of applause

can Samuel L after nine million movies get a moment without y'all rushing to attack me Samuel L Jackson well deserved like this was too big of a moment for too many important black figures, and I think the black people there knew that. Will's first Oscar, right? Yes. Quest Love, fucking shit, the Dixon, Kenny Hamilton nomination. Like, black people were being highlighted tonight. At a place where they're not normally highlighted.

Not even welcome. And if you want to tell me that's because the Oscars is pandering to a black audience, well, yeah. Yeah. Like most of them do. And it's still congrats to me. No, it's a big congrats. It's a huge congrats. I do not think that Will Smith or anyone else took it upon themselves in that moment to make that moment about that.

And that's further cemented by that stupid shit he got up there and said during the speech. And boy, we got to stop that, yo. I'm sick of it from some of you niggas. Damn, I wanted to be Zinjerman Button today. I'm sick these niggas yo y'all just misappropriate shit he get up there and say our King Richard would have defended his family that's funny the King Richard came out two days later and said nah I wouldn't have done that violence is only cool when it's in self-defense I don't know the fuck he had on his mind King Richard got a phone you get on the stage at that stage in that moment apologize to everybody but chris rock

and then and then show your fucking ass by saying like king richard i'm just defending my family and those are the two things that you niggas out there, I hate you hip-hop niggas. Defending my family and y'all taking food out my kid's mouth. I hate that y'all got them two lines because y'all just use them shits with anything, yo. Y'all use them shit. Oh, you taking food out my kid. Nope. Yo, some of that shit, it's not applicable, yo.

It's more than them. It's a bunch of them. You niggas just say shit to make something sound real serious for what you about to do to disguise that you stupid. Not talking about Will Smith. But I don't think he's himself in the moment. No, no. Because if he's himself

in the moment, Will Smith 100% apologized to Chris Rock right there. Yeah. He don't wait a day later and get with his people. I even liked Chris Rock's apology. That wasn't real. It wasn't real. I don't. Oh, it wasn't real? people. I even like Chris Rock's apology. That wasn't real.

It wasn't real. I don't. Oh, it wasn't real? No, that's not him. I like the fake apology. I like the fake apology. I like Chris Rock not pressing charges. Chris Rock know he can't press charges on Will Smith.

Shit. That's where I disagree that. 100%. Hey, Ice. Say what you want. Ice, stop. Say what you want. Ice, stop.

Guess who's going to jail tonight? Ice, we're not doing this. Guess who's going to jail? Ice, say what you want. Say what you want. Guess who's going to jail tonight? Ice. We're not doing this tonight. Guess who's going to jail? Guess who's going to jail? Guess who's going to jail tonight? Ice. I'm lying?

A little issue. No, hold up. I know you're not lying. Ice. Listen. Stop it, yo. If I'm your publicist, if I'm your friend, conf, nigga. Why you got to do this?

You can never do that. You're not pressing charges. You got me in charges on Will Smith. You're banned from life. I'm up 150 mil, whatever it is. Y'all just said I'm good anyway. You cannot press charges on Will Smith. You're a comedian.

You assaulted me in public, and I couldn't even hit you back. Oh, what are you, Vlad now? No, you couldn't hit him back. He's carrying. He's carrying. You could have hit him back. Oh, see, that's the other thing that made me mad. No, I couldn't. No, he could have hit him back. Why couldn't he? He couldn't hit him back. You out your fucking head. Shit, he could't hit him back. I'm caring. He's caring. You could have hit him back. Oh, see, that's the other thing that made me mad. No, I couldn't.

No, he could have hit him back. Why couldn't he? He couldn't hit him back. You out your fucking mind. Shit, he could have hit him back. If you could press charges, I could whoop your ass on that stage. He couldn't hit him back. You out your mind.

Or he could have said more jokes. He could have done a lot of things. I thought that's what he was saying when he said, I could go. I thought he was going to say, I could go. He could have. Y'all do know that Chris Rock is not hitting Will Smith back on the Oscar stage, right? Yeah, he couldn't do that. Even if you could do that. Y'all know Chris Rock is not doing Will Smith back on the Oscar stage. Yeah, he couldn't do that. Even if you could do that.

Y'all know Chris Rock is not doing that. I'm super glad he did not do that. He handled it with class. No question. He did. But. Yeah, I'm all for it. I'm a fan.

Listen. I'm me. I stand in my truth. Somebody would have had some sneakers for me. We would have been in somebody's backyard that night. Puff said, we going to the gold party? Yeah, they'd have had to give me a backyard little boogie. Well, that's why I'm...

Oh, so much to unpack, yo. It's a lot. Just fast forward if you over the smack. But I got shit to say. That's why I'm on the fence about how to feel toward Will. Because a part of me says, yo, that was the hardest shit in the world, yo. For Will Smith to know where he was at and do that to the dude on stage holding the microphone, that's also the part that I think is wrong.

Because you're Will Smith. I'm with you. I think it was wrong, but I actually feel it. You're Will Smith. If that was the issue, you could have went right backstage. You could have walked off, exited stage when he exited stage. The first commercial. And you could have smacked the shit out of him anywhere backstage.

And then all we would have heard is rumors and reports. Your rep still don't take a hit. No, your rep is the same. Y'all deal with it internally. You still go out there and receive the applause you're supposed to when you win that award. He didn't have to do that and that's part of why i didn't believe it in front of his peers these are these are his peers i'm not making this a racy thing a lot of white people had something to say mind y'all fucking business but his peers the acting elite he's been in hollywood for x amount of come on he don't wanna and then Denzel at your highest moment

the devil will that nigga Denzel yo if Denzel could pop up in my worst moments you think I would be like this honestly like I hated that I'm hating on him

you would ignore him I am I love Denzel me too he's like the voice he's like he is come on

he got more quotables than Jay Z like that nigga got some shit Will Smith act up Denzel Tyler Perry Sammy L pop pop up. Yeah, like Big Bruh.

Big Bruh, yeah. Unking him. That's so important, yo. That's dope. Think he might have been saucy a little bit? You know, Hov, text him. No. Oh, man.

I'm sure he had a sip. I'm just saying, because that could add to it, too. It could, absolutely. I hope somebody checked on motherfucking Chris Rock. That's all I heard was everybody kept calling Will Smith. And my thing is... No, Charlamagne called Chris Rock. Charlamagne said he called him?

Yeah. I mean, that's good. I think that more people should have checked on Chris Rock. That's a lack of one. No, that's some bullshit, my nigga. My God. Nigga, I got dents out. I would hang up on a ****.

Nigga, somebody else don't call. Somebody better call. Oprah. Oprah, where the **** is Oprah? Danny LaBelle got five seconds. Where's the Camille Chappelle? Somebody better call. Somebody else.

Dude, I ain't gonna say I'm hating, yo. Stop. Stop. Wait. You got all these motherfuckers checking on you? Yeah, nigga. Harry and Thomas. I'm gonna call you back in a second.

I'm gonna call you back. I'm waiting. I'm waiting on somebody. Yo, you tied my line up, fam. Let me get back to you, you know? That's why I ain't famous. Like,, you tying my line up, man. Let me get back to you, you know. That's why I ain't famous. Like, when you fuck with famous people, and then you go through a moment,

and it hit the web, the famous niggas feel like they could call. Nigga, if you don't get off my phone. Morgan Freeman. Yeah, Morgan Freeman. Yo, James Earl Jones better text me in three seconds, yo, to balance this shit out.

All right, listen. No, that's real. Listen, listen, listen. Let's fuck up. No, that's what I'm saying. This is why I'm mad at them. I'm going to find something to be mad at. Because I'm imaginative. No, I'm on the fence. Let me get this out. I'm back and forth with it.

I have a very creative imagination. So when the universe gifts you something you never thought would come, right? Like the Yukon woman's coat. Gino been in the final four. Seven zillion times. 15 years. He got to make up new speeches. Whatever he said last night, I was like, oh, shit.

He have writers for that one. She wanted a. Right? But like the universe give you shit that you got to be in awe at. That's amazing. On whatever night this was, that Will Smith smacked the shit out of Chris Rock headline was so great, I had no choice but to imagine it 90 other different ways. What if he weaved it?

Yeah. But you've already committed to the act. Now you got to chase him. Or you got to put your hands up. What if he win? already committed to the act. Now you got to chase him. Or you got to put your hands up. What if he win? Catch him with the left. What if he react? You have to run.

Will Smith. The text. Now that is. Will Smith is running around on stage trying to smack Chris Rock. Yo, what if he dipped it and bop? Yeah. Oh, shit. Chris Rock DC McFly, that nigga.

In front of your girl and your peers. Yo, this could have been better. If he would have. And that's why I know Will Packer didn't write this. All jokes aside. Will Packer would have wrote something for us. If that nigga would have slipped that smack and boo-bop. Oh, that would have been the shit, yo. It would have been over. He had boo-bop. Oh, that would have been the shit, yo.

It would have been over. He had to go on high. Yeah, it would have been over. He had to go on high. Considering... Nah, it'll be here. Yeah, it would have been over. He would have had to go on high.

All I'm saying is, man, a smack at the awards ain't going to impress me anyway. Nah, I just... Young Buck stabbed a nigga, man. Oh, man. Do you hear this ignorant-ass nigga? I'm just saying. Like, it's levels. Wait, what happened?

I said, a smack at the awards. Young Buck stabbed a nigga and got dropped from the label. Nigga, shut up. You niggas with your false fucking loyalties. Word. Word. You niggas be loyal to nothing, yo. To absolutely nothing.

You stabbed me. I'm signed here forever. I mean, I stabbed somebody. I stabbed somebody for you? Yeah, I'm signed. I'm signed. I'm sorry. Yeah, no, I'm signed here forever. I mean, I stabbed somebody. I stabbed somebody for you? Yeah, I'm signed. I'm sorry. Yeah, no, no. Like, perpetuity. Perpetuity. Sorry.

So now you fucking idiots, y'all got me on the internet, saving all the little stupid songs. I don't care. I don't care. I know you was having a blast on the internet. Now this is a story all about how I slapped Chris Rock and sat back down. And some people say I'm wrong, but I don't care. I'll tell you why you don't make jokes about wifey not having hair.

You're bad. No, no, no, no, no. I'm saving all this shit. Wait, is there more? Oh, yeah, there was another one somewhere. Hold up, where, where? I heard it. No, I heard all them shit.

Here we go. Now this is a story all about how the Oscars got turned upside down. Will was sitting in his seat, cracking up in his chair. Chris Rock made a joke about Jada's hair. I love you. G.I. Jane 2. Can't wait to see it. We'll let this one rock for you, all right?

We're going to get back to business. Hey, content creators. Yes, I'm sitting over here. It's West Philadelphia, side and rage. Will said bet and walk straight to the stage. Maxin' relaxin', walkin' all cool. Then gave us a glimpse of Ali too. Gave him a cross, stack a pass for a hook.

Uh-oh, pookie, it ain't lookin' good. He threw one good slap and the crowd got scared. The Peter lookin' at Will like, this nigga here. Alright, let's get out of here. Alright, y'all. That's enough of him. Ah, the internet. The internet is great.

Undefeated. You got to love the internet, man. And I like that Will partied it up afterwards. What? Yeah. Yo, you see what Lupita had, right? See? You not smacking me.

Fish. Fair. Lupita. Lupita got. He was looking at that nigga like. Fish. Fish. Eight times, Tim. Yo. Yo. Yes, yes. Fair. Lupita got... She was looking at that nigga like... A time stamp. Why are you a barbarian?

She looking at him like, Daddy... What? Look how Lupita looking at that nigga, man. Yo, what's wrong with this nigga, yo? Yo, I'm telling you. Lupita was looking at that nigga like, that's what we doing, Zaddy? Yeah.

Say what you want. Go ahead. We said nothing. Nobody said a word. I'm telling you. Lupita was looking at that nigga like, that's what we doing, Zaddy? Yeah. Say what you want. Go ahead. We said nothing. Nobody said a word. We're letting you rock out. Look, and she had the after party right behind me. Yo, he's still going. After the show.

That nigga will not go home. Now we turn it up. I'm telling you. For the award? That nigga. He will not go home, yo. And that's the real conversation y'all don't want to have. Yo, chill out, bro.

She got that nigga under mind control, yo. That nigga's so happy to be outside, yo. No, no, yo. Wait. Look at Will, man. I'm going to get smacked. Yeah, you are. He ain't even doing summertime. He's getting jiggy with it.

He's trying to have a blast. He's trying to have too much fun. Turn it up. Come on, let's read his apology at least. Y'all don't think he's under mind control? Yes. He's under stress, no question. You think he's mind control-ish?

I don't think it's mind control. Nah. Jay-Z got this song. So when did he get that mad if it's not mind control? Nigga was laughing it up. He saw that she was mad. Can't laugh no more.

I gotta do something. That nigga immediately. See, nah, we're not paying enough attention to that. Every meme. If you utilize empathy, then you have to press pause right there. You're right.

The joke was funny. Oh, shit. It's not funny. Stop. It's not funny at all. Hey, there's a room full of dudes.

We could talk about it a little bit. Yeah, no, come on. Or maybe, or maybe we can't. Y'all know what time it is when something happened and you can overlook

it. Y'all want to really have a real conversation? We can. How real? Go ahead. Not too real. No, I'm just saying I think that this is my... Look, they told me I can't say this is my personal opinion no more it's your platform but I gotta say

this is my personal yeah you say a lot to take it off of you thanks but I don't even think this smack

was a Chris Rock smack I think it was damn near a societal smack it was you know what I'm saying like it was the feather that broke the camel's back

the nigga done been in the tabloids and been in social media for the last two years. In a negative way. Outside of his book and that movie, it's been all negative. Jokey joke on me. So when the joke came out, he laughed. I look at my wife, she's not laughing. And all that flashed in front of my face is the last two years of ridiculed jokes and all that other shit.

Memes. Here we come. And that's all I think he really envisioned was there's some more shit. He snapped. And it popped. Boy, did he envision it quickly then. Because it's the part that I want to highlight. Absolutely.

If you've been living with it for. And to further point out how delusional he is. Who's he? Will Smith. Okay. After the smack, he got the nerve to be smirking. No, nigga. He did more than that.

I know, but I mean. He fixed his suit as if he ain't have a care in the world. Something is wrong. Something is off there from there for the Will Smith that's our Will Smith that we know. It was like a time bomb, dog. You know what I'm saying?

It literally was like that. And this is clearly, and you can't tell me that this is about that G.I. Jane joke. You can't. I'm not rolling. I'm not rolling. I don't care who wrote the joke.

I don't care if the writers wrote it if it was ad-libbed it don't matter to me if I'm taking this as real cause like I said I go back and forth you think it's fake and I also

I go back and forth I don't think it's the G.I. James joke I think it's all good the shit from 2016 the Chris Rock them comments I think niggas might not fuck with Chris Rock

to an extent or whatever. That's what I'm learning too. Hold on, Joe. Hold on. You know how it's like, yo, let's say somebody, Parks, you make a joke.

Uh-huh. At my expense. Yeah. Joe laugh. All right. Ish laugh. I'm like, hold on, homeboy.

You can't laugh. Not you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, not you. It could have, it looked like it could be some of that. Like, I don't fuck with this nigga right here. I can't lie. Not you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, not you. It looked like it could be some of that. Like, I don't fuck with this nigga right here. I don't like that, yo. But it happens, bro.

You're right. This is my thing. The Oscars, the Grammys, the Emmys, the fucking Espy's. The Golden Globes. All of them, they hire a top-notch comedian on purpose oftentimes to master the ceremony if you are the best of the best you are gonna get roasted it is par for the course when niggas host the espies they crack on Peyton Manning they crack on LeBron they crack on KD they crack on everybody niggas fucking roast Donald Trump Barack Obama whoever the president, at the presidential roast.

It's par for the course. So when you're a megastar, you're sitting in the front row, that is what tends to happen from a comedian. We are setting a precedent here, basically going forward, that no comedians could ever

crack a joke on an A-list celebrity without the risk of potentially getting smacked. No, I don't think so. I don't think we said that. Hold on. No, no, no, no, no. I'm with that. No, no, no, no, yeah.

You joking or you serious? I'm dead ass. Yeah, like, dog, you are setting a precedent because... But I like it. Look, I don't. I like... Oh, please.

You can't like it when you do what you do every day for a living. You can't like it, Joe, because now you're being contradictory. I'm not. Because we sit here on a day-to-day basis we don't nothing yeah i come in here and speak as if i might see any of the people i speak about i agree yeah but they can still take so don't wait wait wait wait wait no and then i would have to deal with that indeed absolutely i don't come in here and do that

and it's a lot of comedians. I don't give a fuck that your career choice was to make people laugh. Some of that shit be off base. I agree with that. Some of it is wrong. I agree with that. And then y'all come clamoring to the internet. Oh, I'm a comedian.

I can't do my job. No, some shit you cannot say. I agree with that as well. And we come in here all the time, or at least me for years, and said, sometimes we need to get back to smacking the shit out of some people i agree i done been to comedy shows no i've said that months ago with fucking bria and a nigga on stage thought it was cool to make a joke about how dark-skinned my lady friend was no nigga i'm waiting outside for you that don't fall under the guys up i'm a comedian so that's why that shit

that you saying you right but i think it's conditioning right so if i'm will and i know what this has done in my home i know i'm watching her cry i'm holding her i know how this affects her differently than our entanglement jokes like this is a health. This connected us. No, I'm not. And you do that. That's not your right. And not only that. The joke was over.

That was funny. Homeboy and his wife. See, that was comedic genius. Dave would have did that. Homeboy and his wife both being nominated in the same category. That's Chris Rock comedy. Even the segue to Will. homeboy and his wife both being nominated in the same category that's chris rock comedy segue even the segue to will oh he getting he he better hope will wins that was genius now you just taking

a jab joe wouldn't have took it joe wouldn't have took let me ask you a question the joke was completed go ahead let me ask you a question and i'm not defending him. This is just all... Allegedly, he didn't know nothing about her alopecia. I don't care. If he don't know... I don't care. Let me finish, yo. 2016 negates your point. I know where you're going.

No, it does not. Oh, go ahead. It's two totally separate issues. Wait, go ahead. Explain it to me. What I'm saying is this. We can't come in here and we complain about cancel culture and we complain about how sensitive people are in the pot.

We do that often here. And then say there's a line in which a comedian can't cross because this is traditionally what comedians have done. Yeah, but you can cross it. Parks, you got to be prepared for what happens when you cross it. You have to be prepared for the people because I'm not disagreeing. I want to reply to him. I know I agree with that. I'm standing on that.

I agree with you. What I'm saying is it sets a precedent going forward that now we can't really be funny no i disagree with that part the funniest jokes are the jokes that teeter the line of of of inappropriate from the comedians that's good and the amount of comedians that's good is probably the same as the amount of rappers that's good. He wanted to. Which leaves an entire field. I know, which is why this was shocking. Cat Williams came on this podcast and said, you know, if you can't make jokes without offending people, then you're not a comedian.

Then you're not a comedian. But let me, and I love that. That's from an offensive comedian. And he said it amazingly, too. Yeah. But I want to reply to you, Ish. want to reply to you ish if you we are boycotting this event in 2016 black elite we being murdered by the dozens in the street and i ain't gonna serious this out but you just have to highlight why this event was being boycotted that they tapped chris rock in that

moment to speak to black audience and he clowned my wife that's important to know it is you know the two people that should know that will and chris that's what i'm saying about 2016 should did some of that because even if you right and chris rock is genius so he could have thought and joked his way out of that without this but you know 2016 happened and now you know that we sitting in front of your face so it's like to hide behind the guise of being a comedian no nigga you a man first and you have the gall i don't know who you think i am but we here now we not boycotting we we fixed it and you still got jokes yo G.I. Jane wasn't even that popular of a fucking movie

for your genius ass to make that joke in that moment it wasn't it wasn't no black panther stop 30 years ago stop no I understand that part no nigga as a man you can't do that right now

like I said it could be I'm still feeling 2016. And what if we spoke? I agree with that. We know each other. What if we spoke? What if I said something to you and you still chose to make me the butt of the joke in front of my peers? Allegedly somebody.

No, nigga, smack the shit out this nigga, man. And Chris Rock, let me say this. And I love them both. He deserve a smack. He deserve a smack. He deserve a smack. He should have been got a smack. Chris Rock should have been got smacked. It's a few niggas should have been got smacked.

Well, see, that's what I'm learning. That little clip running around where he just thought it was all okie dokie, nigga, nigga, nigga with Louis C.K. And it took Seinfeld in the moment to say, no, that ain't cool. No, but Seinfeld is Seinfeld. See, and this is what I mean about genius, comedy. Seinfeld, Seinfeld in the moment to say, no, that ain't cool. No, but Seinfeld is Seinfeld. See, and this is what I mean about genius comedy. Seinfeld is Seinfeld. So he didn't just say that.

He said, I don't find the humor in that, nor do I seek it. To both of them. Really to Louis C.K. But why Seinfeld got to be that person in front of Chris Rock? So, of course, no one deserves a smack but yeah that was nuts I know there's a comedian class there's a language y'all speak there's a I understand but that was nasty from Chris Rock also they highlighted Chris Rock is the nigga that made the film about black hair. And now he on stage with a black hair joke. Black woman's hair.

Like some of that shit. I ain't get that one. Like, okay. Because he made the film. Stop it, Ice. That's what I mean about ignorance. Stop it. You made the film.

That's not being ignorant, bro. If you made the film, then you're highlighting that you are aware of all the roots and things that come along with the texture and black hair. And culturally, black hair. You would think that the person that made the movie knows that. So the irony of you being the person to make the joke about a black woman's hair, there's something there. I stopped that. Don't do that. Listen to this, though.

Let me ask. This is if, and I'm not defending Chris Rock. I'm not defending Chris Rock. What I'm saying is we are all under the assumption that he knew that she was suffering from. I'm not. That don't mean nothing to me. Let me finish, please. That she's under some duress about her alopecia.

Jada Pinkett has been wearing short hair since she was introduced to the mainstream she changes hairstyles often she changes hairstyles frequently he made a joke about it so if because again i heard that there's some leaked footage i got it about will smith saying yo i spoke to him before i spoke to him before okay I spoke to him before. Okay, I didn't hear that. Yeah, they said that. I don't know how authentic it is, but I spoke to him before. So if you spoke to me before and I told you stop playing with me, yeah, you could get a smack, right?

I think he should have smacked him in the dressing room. I think he should have smacked him when the shit was over. I think he should have handled it a little differently. But it's what I'm saying to you is, why do it matter that to me, why do it matter if he did or didn't know about her health like let me finish let me finish let me finish if you talk about a nigga wife the end it's not true joe it's not true because we talk about people's wives

on this show who just give me one tell me honestly i'm not trying to be funny tell me it's disrespectful because i think i make it a point to not do that. I don't even think he talked about her in a disrespectful manner. You would be picking me up right now. If he took it as disrespectful. No, no, stop. Do you think 2016 was disrespectful? I say yes.

Yes, absolutely. 100%. So this is not strike one. This is strike two with you with my wife's name in your mouth like she the butt of the joke. And I'm sitting with her. Come on, y'all. No, I'm with you there. I don't care in your mouth like she the butt of the joke, and I'm sitting with her. Come on, y'all. No, I'm with you there. I don't care if he knew whether she was sick or not.

Why do you keep playing with my wife? Let me ask you a question. That part. Let me ask you. I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just saying I think people be looking for shit in the, in the social media climate forum, et cetera. People just always looking for some shit to talk about.

They just always exaggerate in certain shit. And I just think that don't get me wrong. Let me finish. He, if he felt, if Will Smith felt as though he crossed the line, then that's his right to feel that way. And he handled it accordingly.

However, he thought that the situation should be dealt with. He has that right as a man. That's another one that has to go away. Yo, social media be blowing shit up. They do. They do. But sometimes they don't. Sometimes?

They didn't blow this up, yo. These are two black. Three black megastars. Chris Rock, this has nothing to do with Chris Rock to me. So I'm not starting. I don't put him in there. These are two Jada and Will black megastars for niggas whole lives. Longer than my son's been alive.

We've watched them in mad movies shows you know you kind of feel this attachment like you grew up with people through rumors and speculation and other things we learned about their different ideologies at one point scientology was involved their kids grew up became vocal with adverse views and opinions, right? Then you throw in an R&B nigga that during a press run did some dumb nigga shit, wrote a song about it, did an interview, spread all the business, throw in a new therapy show that's a smash at Facebook. The show's a smash. You got to talk therapy show that's a smash at facebook the show is a smash the show

you gotta talk about why it's a smash that's very very important to you well it's a smash because it's three different generations of women sitting there really getting to the meat and potatoes of real shit with people that are going through real shit right what am i missing something part of it Right? Or am I missing something? It's a part of it. It's a part of it. Go ahead. Another part of it that is really, really vital in this is the fact that when you're a megastar, right? So if you're Jay-Z and Beyonce, if you are Rihanna and ASAP, people feel an attachment to celebrities

and when you start to now because it's a mysticism there with celebrities that's why Michael Jackson and Prince were as big as they are that's why Jay Z and Beyonce are as big as they are because they keep the mysticism they don't let everybody in their house

they don't let everybody in their bedroom they don't let everybody in their space and so now you get the fandom when you start to now allow people into your personal business now you allow the criticism that's the knock that everybody has on Kim and Kanye right is that they search for the public spotlight so much that they put their life in the public hands. And now you open the door to public fodder. It was the same knock on these two. There you go. So Joe's saying that the show was a smash.

And a part of that smash was she allowed the world into their bedroom. She allowed the world into their house. She allowed the world into their bedroom she allowed the world into their house she allowed the world into their private life and so when you do that now some of that shit was at the expense of your husband's sanity and his well-being and we just saw it manifest itself on national television at one of the biggest nights of his life that wasn't a chris rock smack my nigga that was a societal smack to all of us exactly that was to everybody i know and she played a part in that i was like i'm about to say she's into everybody

that that smack was she played a part in that a lot of that smack was as a result whether directly or indirectly to things that she has pushed in the public spotlight the things that you're saying is what i just call mind control i don't want to use this moment to highlight i'm not she may have paid to play a part in what he decided to get up and do as a black man yo see and that part is reversed too though but wait that part you have to stop doing this go ahead i'm listening go ahead let me just say this point you can go that part is reversed too though like the whole I'm protecting my family thing. I want, I'm talking solely about me.

I want for my wife one day to stop me from smacking the shit out of somebody. One. That's what I want. Know what I also want? Or I want her to give me a better route. True. Show me a better way to do this. Help me.

Know what I would also want better way to do this help me know what i was know what i would also want my wife to do i would also want my wife when she sees that something is affecting me because if the fucking world sees that it affected him we all saw it i'm not doing that hold up we all didn't see it perfect picture painting ass he's not like he just was so forthcoming that's no you're right no no whoa whoa whoa whoa the savvy saw let me finish no no no not even the savvy saw it i saw that nigga sit on that red table with his eyes as red as the fucking table you're savvy anybody anybody saw that anybody with eyes everybody saw that nigga sitting on that table everybody don't know why that's happening yes people saw that everybody is not i'm not buying everybody everybody's not concluding the same thing every

every adult hear me out every single adult and every single man on this planet is going to assess that situation and say that is a very hard conversation for that man to be having and if you don't say that you're blind now you're saying the same thing i'm saying i know well no but no yes i disagree i disagree you're just saying if you don't see it you're blind that's a different variation of what i'm saying oh this is grown-up conversation but it's but it ain't just grown up watching so listen so what i'm saying is this we have to protect our family we got to protect our families wait on this topic cause that's what he talked about on his speech we gotta protect our families we have to do things appropriate

to be the protector cool but when you are giving the world shit to put a target on your back you giving them the ammo to shoot me with you gotta do better than that see I want the family to let me know that that's not the way to protect and that's what uh uh king

richard went on to say like that's just not how you that's not how because i'm so great like will smith is amazing i don't want people to misconstrue what i'm saying no he is really him. Yeah. And when you don't have this internal darkness and you can step in your true light, you know the power that you wield. True. And you don't exhibit that over G.I. Jane in this moment. And along with great power. Hey, not only do you know it. Finish the quote. Your wife knows it. Your you know it finish the quote your wife knows it

your kids know it go ahead along with great power comes what great responsibility alright then so with that being said it's his responsibility to not do that and with that being said

30 this he's not he's bro we Denzel it might stop right there they sent his ass to Bel Air he didn't learn Bro, we... Denzel... It might stop right there.

They sent his ass to Bel Air. He didn't learn... No, look... This is exactly what they sent his ass away for. They sent him... We looking at a whole new Will Smith that they sent away. There might be only one black actor on the planet that we hold in higher regard than him.

And that is Unk that came over and put his arms around him and gave him another fucking genius quote. So what I'm saying is. And Samuel. You don't hold Samuel L. Jackson in a higher regard than him. Not the higher than Will. Yes, the fuck you do. No, you don't. I don't know what you're talking about.

You don't. I don't. But it's cool. It's not a slight to him either. It's not a slight to him either. It's not a slight to him. Not at all. I disagree. He's in the combo.

He's in the conversation. He's in the combo. What I'm saying is this. Sammy L is in King of New York. So? I mean, so. That's in the 70s. What are we talking about?

King of New York is not the 70s, but I don't feel like fighting. King of New York is 79. Stop it. Wait. Christopher Walken? Yes. 79. I know.

First of all, it's Larry Fishburne, but I don't want to fight you. You good, bro. Sammy L is in King of New York. What are you talking about? That's him. I'm just saying. That's him. We're not having this conversation, Joe.

What I'm saying is this. Pull it up! If I'm wrong, I'll tell you. No, you won't. You're going to say they stupid. I swear. You're going to say IMDB is stupid. Yeah, they stupid.

They got it wrong. They got it wrong. Stupid, motherfucker. That gets you wrong, too. Go ahead. I know, yo. But what I'm saying is this. He's him.

He is him. He's in the fight scene. So when you start to now blame the world, he's not blaming the world, but he's saying, like, yo, you got to protect this person. You got to protect that person. You got to protect that person. Dog, your castle,

you got to protect it. But when the people inside your castle are potentially burning it down, there has to be some accountability there. And I had a way better point until you cut me off. You're always doing this bullshit. So my shit ain't as smooth as it would have been. I want to wrap the convo

with just letting Will Smith know that we love him. True indeed. Their whole family. Their whole family, whatever they're going through, is what they're going through. He was in King of New York. And it was 1990.

I know it wasn't. King of New York was not out in 1990. I was three years old. King of New York came out when I was fucking in high school. Why is he saying 1990? That's when it came out. That's when it came out? Yeah.

How can I be that off? Where did I get 79 from? He's been in 150 movies. All right, I'm right and wrong. Yo, I hate when you be right, but you're wrong at the same time. But anyway, what was you doing? Yo, yo, stop. Because y'all going to trigger me on the girl dad shit again what i'm speaking to will smith indeed i am not speaking to everyone

else no his whole family they are all going through this with him great but I'm speaking to Will Smith, the head of house, honcho of the king of the castle, him, yes, the family is going through shit, yes, Jada, yes, the kids, yes, it's all together,

but I'm talking to the man that had the meltdown in front of the fucking world while Jada got to sit there and roll her eyes yes i'm talking to him the nigga that on his night i won the award my fucking amazing peers got to come running me running me and talk me off a ledge for smacking the shit out of somebody who is well known i had to decipher these things i'm talking to him the person that maybe need a little

more love warmth therapy support understanding from us from us and I say that listen Jada is there with her mother her daughter her network of people and they have her i don't look at her and see erratic i look at will smith and see the masking of pain i would agree a thousand percent and that's just something i've been highlighting for years upon years upon years with the entertainers that i love most y'all think it's hate it's not i said this to you about Chris. I said this about Tori. I said we should watch Chance, Sean. It's a few niggas that when they start talking to these records and you start getting a visual, I'm not looking from a consumer standpoint.

I'm not looking as a fan. I'm looking to empathize. Holy shit, yo. If that were me. Yeah, you never even really see him with, like, I don't know who his friends are. Like when I say friends, I mean, like your real buddies that you hang out with. I'm going to jump in there and see that we have stories of who his friends are. And there's stories that come with that.

That's true. See, I can't even imagine i i can't speak from the perspective of will smith who everywhere you turn there is some rumor or there's a story yo so listen you right so wouldn't that mean this is just my brain wouldn't that mean limit the accessibility like you can't stop oh you're getting somewhere oh wait wait no time out time out you're not supposed to stop being you you're not supposed to stop being you but ish for your own personal ish and that's why and that's why my interpretation i'm only talking about me i ain't talking about nobody else that's why my interpretation of him sitting down that red table with his eyes like that and his face like that is different because of what you just said. What you just said? Say it again, real quick.

I said you limit the accessibility that the world has. And he's sitting there mad because with all of our strange ideologies and beliefs that are sacred to us, some mishaps happen

to now where our business is in the fucking street and we got to address it i got to sit here in support of some shit that i'm not in fucking support of but i'm here for you i'm here i'm i'm a pillar i'm him hey i'm about to get your shit up no i can't happen this up no i can't but'm just saying, that's my take on that. That's part of why I'm so angry. I agree with you. Yo, wait, you did that? Wait, what?

With who? We've seen niggas flip out for less. Mm-hmm. I ain't going to name them. But boy, they at the tip of my tongue. We've seen niggas flip out for less. Oh, I want to name them. Because they your favorite niggas. Oh, y'all love these niggas flip out for less. Oh, I want to name them because they're your favorite niggas.

Oh, y'all love these niggas. It don't be a peep about it. These niggas flip out in front of their fucking face. So I'm going to grant Will some grace. He deserves it. But niggas have flipped out for a hell of a lot less

than what Will Smith has gone through and been through in his fucking personal, private, secret, sacred sector. I agree. That shouldn't be for all of our public fodder. I agree. Well, that's kind of what we've been saying all along anyway. Like, none of their business. We shouldn't even know.

They keep putting this shit out. Not even they. When you break up with your chick and she go fuck the whack nigga, imagine if the world know. I'm not saying he went through that. Imagine if the world know now. Hey, your chick fucked him? Where? Wait, home?

Wait, let's really have, let's empathize. I agree. It could get crazy, yo. No, it could. So that's why I said. He's got the nerve to write a song. I don't want to hear from the niggas talking about why he ain't do that to August. August wasn't with the microphone in front of him at the oscars yeah that's why and not for nothing

hey we don't know he didn't do that to august we don't know that that's true wait i didn't go backstage and smack chris rock because clearly i don't feel like looking for niggas but you're right here on site right Y'all like that? Hey. This is gift wrap. Right, that's what y'all preach? Right in front of me. Drop the addy, drop the low.

Oh, shit, the opps spin the block. Y'all preach it to me. And now here it is. Our finest nigga does it. And now we think peace and a death. Suck my dick. That was the other shit that did piss me off. I want to get off of this. But that pissed me off. I hate these niggas. Now we think peace and a death. Suck my dick. That was the other shit that did piss me off.

I want to get off of this, but that pissed me off. I hate these niggas. What I'm starting to see all is, yo, he got on there and did that in front of all these white people we supposed to be holding up. I only don't comment on that because I ain't making this racy.

I'm just going to say white people mind your business. I'm talking about us saying that about him. Us saying what about who? You can't act like that in front of the white people. But that come from white people mind your business. I'm talking about us saying that about him. Us saying what about who? You can't act like that in front of the whites. But that come from white people. Nah, I don't think so. I know. I don't think that come from white people. I think that comes from us trying to impress

white people. I don't think that comes from the white people. Trying to get a seat at that table. Y'all think we were born with that? Or do y'all think we learned that? I'm not getting racy. But do you think we were born with that? Or do y'all think we learned that? I'm not getting racy. But do you think we were born with that? Or do you think we learned it from each other?

You think we learned it from each other? You say yes. I do. What do you say? And I'm not arguing with y'all. I'm just receiving y'all answer and I said I'm moving on. I think it was learned from being told and treated that we were less there. So.

By who? By them. Okay. told and treated that we were less there so by who by them okay so knowing that made you want to be accepted by them that's the greatest shit about this oscar shit is i ain't saying it go ahead no come on no oh no because sometimes i say things and the people the white people that i love and the white people that love me might think I'm talking about them and I'm not. Okay. So there's no point. Parks you are not even top 10 of the white people I've been

talking about. Like I got mad white people. Dub B just hit me the other day about when all this shit happened. Shout out to Dub B. But yeah no so I don't want to. It's not worth it. It's not worth it. But there is a take there is a take there is a take on that specifically but I'm

skipping it not that important come on where we at so now here's Oscar's under review because you broke the code of conduct you broke the code of conduct come get it code of conduct no come get it it's right here no no no no no no no no code of conduct no come here tell y'all explain to me

about Code of Conduct see that's why I just choose to say hey y'all mind your business y'all fucking Harvey Weinstein I ain't gonna talk I'm not

I ain't gonna say what y'all did we not gonna do that I ain't gonna say what y'all did but what is y'all Code of Conduct with all the shit that they've been allowing for years what's the Code of Conduct

you know what the Code of Conduct is what's allowed and what's not we ain't gotta talk about it you know what it is come on move on. I hope that Will Smith keeps his Oscar. No, let him come get it.

No, don't come get it. No, no, no. Please try to come get it. Will Smith deserves an Oscar. Certainly not for this movie. Boy, yo, he smacked somebody

so I can't even really get into the take. Like, he got an Oscar for this, yo. I was with that. With what? I like that movie. Remember, I came here and said I love that movie. I know, yo. And I'm not mad at him

winning the Oscar for it. I know you not. He shouldn't have. This was a fucking mess. This is just your hate against girl dads. I get it, man. I see what you did, yo. Y'all trying to pay me as a girl dad hater, yo. You are. We paying you that, though. I get it, man. I see what you did, yo. Y'all trying to paint me as a girl dad hater, yo. You are. We painting you that, though.

I'm not. I'm not. You had the biggest brush in the world, but we painting you as that. I had the biggest what? Brush. That is y'all painting me that. Niggas just make shit up and y'all roll. And I'm not like that. That's cool. I don't judge y'all for that. I don't judge y'all for that.

Y'all go with whatever. Nigga gonna make something up tomorrow and y'all gonna wave the flag for it. Y'all do that. I don't judge y'all for that. I don't judge y'all for that. Y'all go with whatever. They're going to make something up tomorrow and y'all going to wave the flag for it. Y'all do that. I don't. Carry on. So you want to read his apology or what, man? Violence in all of its forms is poisonous and destructive. My behavior at last night's Academy Awards

was unacceptable and inexcusable. Jokes at my expense are a part of the job, but a joke about Jada's medical condition was too much for me to bear and I reacted emotionally. I would like to publicly apologize to you, Chris. I was out of line and I was wrong. I am embarrassed and my actions were not indicative of the man I want to be. There is no place for violence in a world of love and kindness. I would also like to apologize to the Academy, the producers of the show, all the attendees and everyone watching around the world. I'd like to apologize to the Williams family and my King Richard family.

I deeply regret that my behavior has stained what has been an otherwise gorgeous journey for all of us. I am a work in progress. Sincerely, Will. You said you didn't like this. No, I didn't. I said I liked his apology and I'd like the fake Chris apology. Okay. I like the apology.

I like making apology. I like, I like making amends. And I ain't got that. But he's absolutely right. What a stain on. Yeah. Just black greatness. There was black greatness everywhere.

Everywhere, everywhere. Beyonce went to Compton. Beyonce went to Compton. In yellow. Right. in tennis ball green lime green

tennis green and that's why that beat hit me because that is definitely an interpolation of a Joe Budden record and it's not even Joe Budden record

but I guess Dub B's beat yeah that's definitely that beat yeah Real Life and Rap I think it was the second bonus record on my debut I guess Dub B's beat yeah that's definitely that beat yeah Real Life and Rap I think it was the second bonus record on my debut

it's 1000% that beat I'd play it but you don't have a music ear so you're not gonna know how that's that but it's 100% that I remember that song

may have to call see what's going on he gonna say so like he did before like he did before real life and rap when he said that to me

before about some original song y'all niggas make me to be so much nah you diss me that's different that's rapper shit that's rapper shit

that's rapper shit but this is business shit this is business stuff right here but anyway Will Smith's mom speaks out on yo and they got

the fucking nerve yo how could Zinjaman Button exist today they got the nerve to leak a report that say and y'all

don't ever girl dad me again yo cause black men need so much love I don't wanna hear that shit don't say it to me I know that y'all girl dads all y'all all three y'all don't ever girl dad me again, because black men need so much love. I don't want to hear that shit. Don't say it to me. I know that y'all girl dads. All y'all, all three of y'all, but sorry. They got the nerve to leak

Will Smith, allegedly the next special guest on the red table. Let me repeat it. Wait. Shut it up. Will Smith alleged to be the next guest

on Red Table Talk. But he I could if I could throw these headphones further. So you mean this nigga's scheduled

to appear at the source of his pain? Again again this show has not done will well this show ain't been a fucking this ain't been a hitch all right i ain't gonna hold you i ain't know that i'm putting i might lean back the other way now now i'm leaning back i'm leaning more towards rollout again now i didn't know this the show is a smash i used to don't need a rollout okay but this is the nature of the show they take all the moments so it's dope that you provide it but no facebook or somebody

what are you providing somebody with a brain is what are you providing what are you providing you said it's dope that you provide it what are you providing a Somebody with a brain. What are you providing? What are you providing? You said it's dope that you provide it. What are you providing? A moment. It's different when you're the talent and the producer and the creator. Your personal life, emotion, and pain to the world for them to now internalize and make fun of and judge as they see fit. So now you can't get on television and start crying when niggas judge you. You are giving it to them.

There's no different than my take when I keep saying these. People keep going to social media. They're cross advertising. About these problems and then venting when everybody say something. Yes. It's the same thing. You are doing the same fucking thing. You're putting the information out.

We would not know if y'all don't put this out. And you are 30 something years in the fucking entertainment industry. And you know this niggas is cruel. Nig industry, and you know this nigga's is cruel. Nigga, I've been in the entertainment industry for a year, and I've learned mad shit in a year. They've been there for 30 years, and Will Smith is a fucking

mega, mega, mega star. He's an A++-less celebrity. What if the five fingers say to the face? What? Stop! Stupid, man. Nah, like, dog.

You giving it to him. I'm sorry. Personally, once you start, once you keep giving it to him, I can't be, you can't even, you can't play victim when you're a fucking volunteer. I hate that take. You're not a, you can hate it. I hate that take. We can agree to disagree.

I hate some of yours. Yo, what i'm saying is you which one a nigga my legs ain't long enough yo what i'm saying is this dog you can't be a victim when you're a volunteer wait wait a second yo can you stop can you stop doing what the fuck does your legs length have to do with you said list them which ones and I'm saying the shit longer than my leg nigga

your bum ass takes anyway yo what I'm saying is finish going man this fucking dodo yo oh man oh man

it's just crazy Oh, man. It's just crazy. Man, not enough pineapple in the juice. Nigga, we'll... Oh, please, man. That ignition won't even get started. Nigga, just... What are you talking about, nigga? Finish, man. man that ignition won't even get started nigga just finish man I don't remember

what I was saying you said that he about he about to host a red table talk oh the end I don't know if it's true or not

but I mean whatever man I'm off of it Will I love you we love you I just wish they can keep these stuff. Get therapy.

Get therapy. I don't want to know no more of their business. He got to get some therapy. That about it? I hope that's it. No, it wasn't. It wasn't. He need more.

That little one little slap didn't fix nothing. That can help. Is there anything else to even talk about? Sure it is, right? I'm sorry. I'm sorry that is so much commentary but dog this was the oscar yo award shows is back no smacking niggas is back too fuck award shows smacking niggas is back restore the feeling wait are you shitting me oh come on. Now we just need a girl to smack a girl.

No, we don't. Oh, yeah. Hey, Zeus getting sued. Hey, they suing the shit out of Zeus. All right. You can't do that shit that they doing. You can't do that. Are you kidding me?

I watched all that shit. That is a royal rumble. It's so much of a royal rumble that, look, me and you, one of them, we fight.

Five minutes later, I can't worry about me and you. We cool now. I can stand by you. I'm fighting him. Hey, two minutes later,

he about to fight him and they all just running around and security's there. Y'all getting sued. When somebody gets seriously hurt, somebody gonna no people getting hurt hey them little twins they signed up for the reality show to claim on twins signed up to the reality show little producers wrote some shit in they say hey we're gonna throw all their clothes in the garbage and get rid of them or

whatever guess what lawsuit y'all gotta pay them chicks came in there with some shit it's louis it's chanel it's prada it's dior it's everything y'all can't write nothing are you shitting me i need millions i need millions i'm up hey today is sue or get sued that's where we at yep if you didn't know, it's sue or get sued. Yes, Zeus. Y'all can't. Nigga, if it was that easy, you don't think I know 20 niggas that could go get in a house and fight for 10 episodes? For cheap. Yo. For the cheap, yo.

Some of the shit y'all doing, like, hey, we thought of it. Hey, I started looking at houses I played that out it's like how can I I can't take this to my little Jewish partner he ain't gonna understand none of this

hey it's 10 episodes and niggas just fight each other yo it's lit and y'all wanna fucking spread dirt on Mona Scott's name

look at the Oscars yo listen this is my last thing fucking spread dirt on Mona Scott's name. Look at the Oscars. Yo, listen. This is my last thing on the Oscars because I'm doing empathy, yo. Y'all niggas out there are liars. Y'all are full of shit.

I don't believe y'all. Y'all ain't never fucked nothing bad before. Y'all ain't never fucked nothing bad before. Y'all ain't never been to the strip club with a baddie with meat or Uzi or somebody was there. Like, y'all ain't been through shit. Y'all just typing things. Y'all liars. Yo, empathy lets me know that all of y'all are liars.

Because I'm me. And I know the threesomes I've been invited to in my life. I do some calculations, some metrics. All y'all ain't did that. Like, nah, it's levels to this. It's levels to this. So you take Will Smith, and this is why I'm not

listening to y'all. My wife I'm open with. And I know a little bit about that not the wife part but the open part whatever you name you come up with i'm nat i'm exhibitionist voyeur what they call they they think it's a dish you submissive yeah nigga, nigga. I do that too. I submit. Ah! Ah! Why you have me this way? Take me!

How could you do this to my body? You would be a nigga to let the chick pour wax on your dumb ass. Go ahead, you're finished. No, let's stay here, boy nigga. Hey, I've been the nigga doing all the work as a smoker you have fun

I'm gonna I'm so tired of this position so what I'm saying is this we got different views on shit my girl done met a nigga who's an artist who done introduced him as a friend of the show friend of the

son friend of the daughter friend of somebody he need a place to stay now I let him in the crib he's in the house yeah I'm doing me but she don't live here I'm just in the crib.

I'm on the right wing. Y'all on the left wing. God forbid I went to get some milk in the middle of the fucking night. Heard some shit I ain't want to hear. You niggas ain't been through nothing, yo. Stop. Stop. Everybody just jumping in with what you would

do. Nigga, you ain't lived enough to do it. Let me ask you a question. Give it to me. You been there, nigga. You did it. You did it all. Ain't nothing. I don't know how much you divulged to your little sweetie you got, but you have been in

every situation we come up with. You did it, nigga. Air mattress, hardwood floor, island, fucking what up granite countertop, nigga. Air mattress. Hardwood floor. Island. Fucking what up granite countertop, nigga. Cabin and shopping. You don't play when it come to dicking. When it get dicking time, that nigga get to dicking.

You get to dicking around. Pink ass shit. Snicker, man. Go ahead. the dicking around. Pink ass shit. This nigga, man. Go ahead. You are more than qualified to speak on anything dicking. You be. This nigga,

he had them little hazel eyes. This nigga is so stupid. Now, come on. Let's talk to our dicking expert. This nigga know. Yo, let me ask you this, right? When is the conversation going to shift to

Will Smith's like you said, empathy, right? So we keep talking about protective women, protective women, protective women. Gotta protect the women. We do.

That wasn't protecting the women. When does he get his protection? When is society gonna say, yo, this nigga's going through it and he deserves some group hugs? I think we there.

I think we there. They not there. No, we not. They're not there. Who's there? Society. Them, society. They're not there who's there society them society they're not there

they might not ever be on love on a black man but so my point with that but we there but my point with that is dog this is clearly

evident that this man has been suffering and holding and bottling all of this shit up for a very long time yes

agreed why is nobody addressing that cause nobody give a fuck it's not about i hate to be the bearer of bad news this is not about a hair you guys he's going on bread table i'll hit you with this fucking microphone yo dog come on what is the five fingers Yeah, exactly. What? Like, dog. Like, he needs grace.

He needs something. Like, I feel for this nigga. Like, we was talking off mic. Chris Rock, nigga, if you don't go DM Detroit Dust. I should have slipped it. Detroit Dust has done too much work in our culture for you to get caught like that on the Oscar stage. Hey, yesterday morning he put out a video, how to not get smacked at the Oscars. But that was my first thought. Like, dog, you ain't been watching Detroit Dust?

Because we watch Detroit Dust and say, yo, all this shit is cool, but you'll never be in this position. And here go Chris Rock at the Oscars. Right in that position. Whatever, man. All right, I'm sure this. Hey, yo, Mag was at the Oscars. Right in that position. Whatever, man. All right, I'm sure this... Hey, yo, Meg was at the Oscars. What was that song they let her hop on? We don't talk about Bruno.

Disney record. Was she originally on that record? I don't believe so. No, she was not. It's the remix. Oh. Debuting at the Oscars. Yeah.

Okay. Thoughts? Y'all know I can't never really have thoughts on Meg because I'm too close to the guy. I can't say nothing bad about Kevin Lowndes. I can't never really have thoughts on Meg because I'm too close to the guy I can't say nothing bad about Kevin Lyons I can't do it and that's his like I can't

what you want me to say he sold it no this is his this is his gotcha so anytime I talk about her I feel like I'm talking about Kevin I can't say nothing bad about Kevin

I cannot even if it's bad even if it's bad I can't say nothing bad so I cannot I'm compromised well's bad. Even if it's bad, I can't say nothing bad. So I cannot. I'm compromised. Well, I ain't mad at that. I always be saying, yo, it's okay to be biased, compromised.

Just admit it. I'm compromised, yo. I'm not mad at it. I hate when the people do the opposite and claim to be unbiased and give a clearly biased, tainted take on something when you know you can't tell the truth. So it's cool. So she hopped on the remix and performed it at the Oscars

for the first time. First time they ever let her. It was the first time what? First woman rapper to ever perform at the Oscars. Ever. And ever. First.

Nice. Times are changing. First, what? First female rapper gotcha I mean I can't wait till this summer yo

it's gonna be a hot summer it's gonna be a hot girl summer and a hot boy summer too who's this nigga get the fuck out of here oh shit alright come on come on we out of here. Oh, shit. All right, come on, though.

Come on, we out of here. We out of here. Come on, come on. Somebody say something. Come on, I can't leave right now. Help. Help. Alex says the food is here. Oh.

And we've ate. And we've eaten. I don't know what the word is. Whatever it is, it was good. It's show. Take your proper grammatic ass somewhere else. I didn't ask you nothing. I'm saying it wrong. No, you asked. I'm saying it wrong. it was good. Ish, yo, take your proper grammatic ass somewhere else. I didn't ask you nothing. I'm saying it wrong.

No, you asked. I'm saying it wrong. You did ask. Like, come on, yo, you do that a lot. Look. Don't do that. Look, look, look. I don't even care if y'all niggas.

Look, I just create something. That's master. Yo, you do that. It's nuts. And he arguing back. Well, just let it go. I don't give a fuck if you good, man. Ish, proper ass.

Nigga, I don't want to hear none of that mature shit. We smacking niggas up. We smacking niggas up. Who you want to smack out there, yo? Nobody. Nobody? Nah, smacking his back. Good luck with that.

I don't got no bell money. Yo, you got somebody out there you want to get it all? I keep telling y'all fighting is a business decision. And y'all keep wanting to fight. Who? Y'all keep wanting to fight niggas. I'm not fighting at all. Chris Rock.

You couldn't find a place to smack him? Yeah, y'all doing a different version. Damn, I wish that he would've had to chase Chris Rock around. That would've been hilarious. Nah, that would've been

the best shit in the world, yo. Will Packer would've had a smash on his hands. Abbott Elementary, who? Oh, man. That would've been fucking caught between a rock and a hard place whatever man

Tyler Perry and listen y'all in my brain I was home figuring out what Denzel was thinking when he had the situation under control and Tyler Perry popped up. I'm going to allow some silence so y'all can figure out too. What y'all think Denzel was thinking when.

Why do I have this perception of Tyler Perry? Because it is shit like this which one the interview yeah this was this was Vanity Fair oh I want to have a real

conversation I can't I can't oh I can't I want to get canceled right now. I do. But life is so good. Life's too good to get canceled. Come on.

I know. I'm chilling out. Bye bye. Joe, don't give it up no more. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Yo, we missed the old Joe

Hey Da da da Da da da Did y'all work this hard To stay the same Well that shit That shit belts with me I'm rubber you're glue

I start singing the song They say that shit Sticks and stones Yo listen I want you to Oh Joe switched up With his Yeah

Chameleoneer. Yo. Joe ain't the same nigga that broke on that. No. No. Remember our argument. Which one? Is your potting?

No, no, no. Which one? We argue for a living. No, no, no. When we argue for a living no no no when we was arguing for free we get paid now yeah

what happened which one we arguing regarding this I don't remember our argument that's okay we never argued

about Tyler Perry using his Madea voice during sex we did not what stance did you think I took in that I hope we would never

no we never did that I didn't even know you did that I thought Madea was that. I didn't even know you did that. I thought Madea was weird enough. I didn't think. But then I got to think. Tyler Perry admits to using his Madea voice during sex.

Okay. A little role play. Hey, I'm not against it. But I also know that talks come with role playing. See? See? Has anyone here ever role played? Not really role playing.

Most, I would ask you out there, but most of you are playing a role right now. Yo, let's roll with you. They are. These niggas don't know how to beat themselves. A lot of them. No, they don't. They don't. They're waiting to be told who to beat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They don't know. But y'all, intimacy. No? I've never. Have you ever been asked to? No? No. Parks?

No. Ice? No. Well, I'm going to call. Not my thing. I'm kinky. What voice you used? I ain't even going to tell y'all. Voice. This nigga probably was in costume knowing Joe. I'm kinky. What voice you used?

I ain't even going to tell y'all. Voice. This nigga probably was in costume knowing Joe. Voice. No, it's gotten deep before. Voice. No. Who was you?

The Pink Panther? No. You be somebody. Let's go out. You go bag somebody. Go do something. I'll pop up. I'll do a little meet at the bar.

I've done that. Okay. Like, I've done some things i was the cop before i was my favorite actor before what actor were you submissive she was older yeah much much much what actor were you she taught me everything what actor were you you think i remember everything. What actor were you? You think I remember? I don't remember yesterday. You said I was my favorite actor. Yeah, who was your favorite actor? You remember who the fuck you were if you were in role.

I was 17. I know. All right, so who was your favorite actor I was 41 years old and now you made the bingo niggas be correct. Did Joe say how old he was today? I hate them niggas.

Swear to God. I'm going to smack this shit out of y'all because I notice it now. I do it a lot. 42 Doug is coming though. I can't wait to see who I'm going to smack this shit out of y'all. Because I notice it now. I do it a lot. 42 Doug is coming though. I can't wait to see who I'm going to cut off at 42. Y'all think I've been exhibiting some shit in the past.

I'm going to meet a new nigga and cut him right off. See how he slipped the jab? What was the jab? I've never argued about Tyler Perry using his Madea voice during sex-ish. No, I'm talking about who you... I don't remember. That was an unacceptable answer for the three of you. Yet y'all sit here twice a week and not I'm talking about who you... I don't remember. That was an unacceptable answer for the three of you, yet y'all sit here twice a week

and not divulge anything about your lives. I don't remember. That's not true. Who are you? That's not true. I've never dressed up. Who are you? Nor did I want to be another.

Who are you? Have y'all done anything that might be embarrassing, self-deprecating? Absolutely. Something you might be ashamed of? Done any of that? Y'all want to share any of that? Or you want to just put it all on me?

Huh? It's called the Joe Button show. We can put your name right. It letters there's three letters i s it's gonna be joe ishin niggas it could be that the second you step up to the plate could change don't believe the rumors oh man hello Bitch ass one Yo you see Look what you made me do You see the thing That they had You see the thing That they had With the full Nelson With the little

Full Nelson meme And you was like Hello This is the five dollars I owe Yo This is the dollar I just owe

Are you paying up Nah I'm cool React you guys Tyler Perry's using His Madea voice During sex I'm cool. React, you guys. Tyler Perry's using his Madea voice during sex. I'm not surprised. I think it's hilarious. I think it's super weird. I'm not surprised.

Well, y'all don't role play. So if you can role play in a role that you created, no? I hope they had fun with it, though. It is mad weird shit. I would like to know who wants to fuck Madea. I like laughing during sex, so I can see how that can turn into some funny shit. I'm just saying, though, if you're going to role play, like, all right, you be here. Laughing during sex is dope.

Yeah, it is. Super dope. So if you're Tyler Perry, the Medea voice is going to get it done. You know what I'm saying? That's going to make him come. I don't know about that. It's going to make him laugh, though. It's going to make it real awkward.

Wait, you think that was upon request? Or you think he just volunteered the Medea voice? I'm asking a question. Forget it. Hello? Man, I'm not jumping out there with you. To ask, you can't ask that. No, you can't ask that.

Y'all know he volunteered this year. I could be Medea. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. Want me to be Medea? No, you didn't. You don't be Madea? No, he didn't. You don't think he was asked? He was told.

He'll be Madea right now. Or else. Or else it's going to get worse. Yo, y'all never talked to your partner like you're the punisher? Yo, it could get bad for you, yo. Hello? Can y'all share?

Fam, I ain't did that shit. I'm sorry. I don't even want to talk. I'm trying not to talk about this. Yo. Oh, man. You don't even want to talk about it. All right, so then we off of this.

This was your topic you brought up. You don't want to talk about it now. Not mine. Oh, you think I pulled that Out of the back pocket huh Madea Ice What you think he was saying Who

Alright come on we moving on We moving on What else is it What's up my quote It's fine It's fine It's fine It's fine

No honestly We can move on No Then help me You should No help me move it along, you fucking fucker. All right. Let's hope Freddie Gibbs and Benny the Butcher, man.

Finally some fucking help in here. Jesus. Damn, let's leave that alone. God damn it. Freddie Gibbs and Benny the Butcher are still going. All line, little jabs back and forth. That's your backpacks. Why?

Because you're the backpacker yeah oh okay I don't like seeing this shit I don't wanna hype yo y'all don't like seeing niggas get smacked y'all don't like

seeing the rappers beef with each other like what are y'all like in the violent ballpark what happens with the with the rapper beefs is it turns into deaths and then we come in here

saying playing it's so hard nigga that's I don't nobody wanna see this shit fuck is you talking about yo can you save that mature for later yo these niggas are not killing each other there's i don't think there's no violence a rapper beef like it's this is such a stupid beef this is boredom beef this is a this is not where to start beef who knows i believe it was Gibbs' tweet.

Or a punchline or a tweet. These niggas like each other. They know that each one of them can rap. Shut up. What are you doing, yo? What are you doing? Both of y'all are successful. Both of y'all are getting money.

Both of y'all got kids, raising families. Y'all both doing it. Get this hip-hoppity cockamamie bullshit out of my i don't care and i know both you niggas and i like both you niggas stop both you niggas stop stop stop and don't text me neither sick of that shit like just stop i want to come here say a take and not get texts from the person i have a take about see my thing is leave the gimmicks leave the rapper gimmicks to the rappers that need them because they can't rap like both of y'all can rap or rap y'all act like

y'all scared of each other go rap go do it like it's because i have to do this if pusha t could diss a fucking fish sandwich y'all can do a little better than these fucking month-to-months of blonde. Like, knock it off. What if the fish sandwich responds? How would you feel as a rapper? What if he gets you out of your suits? What if you get body by the fish sandwich? Yeah, come on, man. I wish these brothers the best.

I wish these guys the best. I wish they would not. How can you hate on a nigga you beg to do an album with? Oh, Maddy's. Because he can do the album. I wish they would not. It's funny to me. I love watching y'all. How can you hate on a nigga you beg to do an album with? Oh, mad easy. Because he can do the album. What's wrong with you? There's one reason

I can hate right there. What's he talking about? Because you didn't do it. I can respect you and diss you. The end. I can want to work with you and diss you. That exists.

I can diss you because I ain't work with you like I wanted to. I don't think I've ever dissed anybody I didn't want to work with. That's never happened. Don't make a lot of sense to me. That don't make sense, though.

Yeah, it does. It makes plenty of sense. I probably went back and tried to work with them. Well, you think that don't make sense? You want to diss people that can rap with you? I don't know. Ish don't have a creative bone in his body with a song, man. That nigga build them houses.

They look good. What does that have to do with my thoughts on beefing with a nigga? Because this ain't beef. No, no, no, no. Because it would seem crazy like it don't make sense if you're not in it and not familiar with it. It wouldn't seem logical. It would seem crazy. That's the line.

So I respect you when you say it, but if you in it, them doing this seems asinine. Get to it. Somebody send a fucking shot if y'all niggas so nice. Yeah, that's true. I agree. I'd rather hear songs and retweets.

So rap then. Or shut the fuck up. And this is why I know that niggas couldn't play with me in this era today man it wouldn't be none of this well it wouldn't be none of this

you couldn't even tweet about me like this but look and I gotta shut up cause I'm retired but you couldn't do this I think I think

social media in general changed that for the rappers I'm gonna fucking throw this fucking shit what nigga that's I hear that line one more time that grown adult fucking humans

are making are letting social media dictate their fucking it's not okay I'm not saying okay or not but this is what's happening but it's not okay the same way look but when we say that we make it sound like

that's okay no I'm not making it okay I'm just addressing something that I've seen happen I believe if social media was around in the 90s some of our favorite rappers

who was dissing each other would've been doing this shit no they wouldn't no they probably wouldn't they would 100% would niggas was built different back then

you think either I'm gonna send these bars your way because there was no other outlets and when I see you I might punch you in the face Niggas was built different back then. You think? Either I'm going to send these bars your way. Because there was no other outlets, though. And when I see you, I might punch you in the face, but you was going to get this. There was no other outlets. Now I could cut my camera on. I ain't got to write shit.

I could type it on a black screen and send it out there to you that way. I don't have to put no thought, no energy, no effort into none of this shit no more. I was way more creative when you were a rapper. Man, we saw what happened when Smack DVD came to the hood and cut the cameras on. Niggas stopped rapping so much

and was just addressing they shit. Once you put a camera, it's another outlet to get my shit out right away. It changed things. Now, I don't even need to wait

for the camera crew. I got the camera myself. It changed things. I do believe if social media was around in the 90s, shit would go different. Pac wouldn't have waited to hit him up to say, I fucked your girl.

It would have been a tweet. Damn. You might be right, though. I don't think he's right either, but who cares? I don't care. So we got to split up. Well, I say that because the era we grew up in and what these niggas is living in right now is too different. And I'm not talking age. I'm just saying the right now is too different and i'm not talking age i'm

just saying the world that they live in i'm not talking age once you get to the era that we grew up in you're talking age you can't say that without talking these niggas are active and participating in the way the world is today i know but they also weren't there for how the world was so when you say nothing about our age yeah these niggas is who is our age i'm talking about them too what gives it gives it i'm off of them now i don't give a fuck what them niggas are doing i'm all my bad but i'm just saying that's why no no because i was going back to that which is why we're not getting how you said yo y'all both great rap i think they're not rapping because i could just do it this way and now i don't care about what they're doing but i don't care about this they got more they got more money now,

so I'm not giving out no free raps. Because somebody could potentially capitalize on it. I'm not worried. Listen, we done here. You niggas want some attention, diss each other. Like, for real. Not just fake shit.

Now, on to something I do think is interesting. T.I. says that he stopped podcasting because he ain't make no money. First person to say it. First person to finally say I jumped in it for a bag, I didn't get a bag, and I left.

What? Settled me into it. Nah, I ain't like it. I like it for a week or two. Really? Or three. I feel like everybody who does that is a bloodlust. But then it became a job. Gotta read these ads. Hey got to read these ads. Hey, you got to be here at this time. Hey, you got to.

Man. I never received the spoils that came with it. Right. I never really. I ain't never get no money. How you see other motherfuckers like Charlemagne and you and Joe Rogan and Gilly and Wallow. I ain't never get that. Right.

You know, it was just a bunch of motherfucking appointments. But I had great conversations and I met great people. And I feel like I enjoyed that part of it. But when I get the call, like, what? Man. No man. You didn't get some crazy contract? Uh-uh.

I don't know what you mean. Like, what crazy contract? Well, you know, you hear about Joe Rogan getting $ 100 million dollars from spotify never happened i i never had adam you guys i've got no more than tens of thousands of dollars you gotta stop that he does like a junior blad thing sometimes you hear about joe rogan adam you know joe rogan is joe rogan shut up shut up i thought that that take was super interesting from ti who comes into podcasting as a rap superstar as a television star uh and his podcast did have a deal somewhere somewhere i don't remember where but it wasn't just distributed independently through him so

when he talks about it feeling like a job having having to do ads, having to show up a certain time, talking to this person, that person, and it feeling like formulaic, I understand that. But there's an entire wave of people out there that jump into podcasting thinking it's a quick and easy bag, but that's what they were told.

And then they quickly learn that that wasn't the case no matter who you are. And T.I., very different from a lot of us, comes in the podcast and there's a multimillionaire. I don't have that story. I can't speak to his experience. And he said, I only made tens of thousands of dollars. So for a bunch of beginning potters,

that would be sufficient for them. True. No, no, you're right. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. For a bunch of new potters, that would be sufficient for them. True. No, no, you're right. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. For a bunch of new potters that would be sufficient for him, T.I.

That's a waste of time. Should be, yeah. I'll say it should be in a place where time equates to money. Right. Where time equates to money. And so the time that you allocate and don't have to return.

Wow, that's true. The interesting part that I see is that the visionary that T.I. is can't see a way around that. And I certainly ain't gonna tell him. He might not have been passionate. I think that's probably part of it. The passion don't matter.

And that's why, oh, this fucking hip-hop game, your passion don't mean nothing if you sell your ass for a certain amount. I'm talking about T.I. Clearly he said he's not passionate about podcasting but he thought there was enough money in it to where he would have pushed some of that to the side and showed up to work.

But when there's no passion and there's no money, why am I here? It's going to be tough to get me here. Or you don't have any takers. I understand I got money, and I got money. There's mad podcasters out there with no passion. And they ain't getting no paper. Some of them are getting paper though.

Passion, passion, passion. Passion like empathy. How long does it last? You get what I'm saying? It remains to be seen I guess. Because it feels like work. It is work. I know.

But you don't think it's work when you dive into it. True. You think, yo, I got something to say. If they could do it, I could do it. My man just started a podcast the other day. Yo, and I'm like, what you trying to do? You trying to monetize it? He was like, eventually.

I'm like, all right, good luck. But they think that I got something to say. They don't know, nigga. You got to talk for a long time uninterruptedly. You should tell this nigga good luck as a pod superstar shit I've had that conversation with quite a few people where I'm like

y'all be overlooking shit what's wrong he dabbed that nigga up and said good luck nah if you wanna try to monetize what I'm supposed to say I don't know yeah good luck with your shit I don't see nothing wrong with that I'm supposed to say? I don't know. Yeah, good luck with your shit. I don't see nothing wrong with that.

I'm lost, dog. Yeah, I'm lost. Hey, Alex, you understand what he's saying? That's him, right? Yeah, it's my guy. Alex, which side are you on in this? It's yours. Which side? Who do you understand here?

I ain't rocking with Brother Ish, man. Yeah, I didn't think so. You gotta give him a little bit more than that. You a superstar. Yeah, come on. So what are you supposed to do? I'm a super what? Shut up, man. Yeah, I didn't think so. You gotta give him a little bit more than that. You a superstar. Yeah, come on. So what are you supposed to do? I'm a super what? Shut up, yo.

Shut up what? What are you supposed to do? Come in here and shout his name? Shut up. I'm lost. I'm not a pod superstar. Says you. Yeah.

You're not going to get me here to give you all the leverage to re-up your contract. You do okay. You all right. You all re-up your contract. You do okay. You all right. You all right. I appreciate it. You do okay. You know what? You know what?

You convinced me. You're not. Can you repeat it a few more times? That you're not a pod superstar? S-U-P-E-R. That's stupid. It's on here. Just to make sure.

No, but I was talking to my man. People just think that they got something that the world want to hear. It looks very easy. You told him that. No, no, no. I didn't say that to my man. No, no, no, no, no. I said everybody be like, yo, I want to start a pod.

I want to start a pod. I want to start a pod. Fam, you have to, one, be able to break down shit that's going on in a unique way and give a perspective that hasn't been heard 7 000 times that's one two some people may have great thoughts but are not able to convey and articulate their thoughts uh-huh that's something that everybody don't possess yeah excuse me um and then you just gotta be able to be charismatic you like this fool when he comes in we we could be sleeping in a truck. And he gets out the truck and he do some. And he wake right up.

And he would turn that shit on. No, he wakes right up. You get what I'm saying? Like literally. He think I clap and wake up. I mean, you do. You do. And he wake right up.

Everybody don't possess that. True. That's not in everybody's demeanor. Right. They don't have it. And then you get to uh difficulties of production and scheduling and all that shit and then you have to be uh engaging enough where people want to hear you right i think that is amazing and i've been here a year i think that's amazing that people curse us out if we take a day off like i blew me away you know what i'm saying like damn that i never listened to podcasts before I came on this show.

So, for me, I'm like, I don't give a fuck about that shit. And a lot of people just look at it and see. You're just talking. Yeah, just talking. I can talk. You never played ball and went to the league. I was nice, Joe. What are you talking about?

I was nice. I'm talking about your potting example. I ain't even listen to that that and I'm just here to listen yo you never yo no this guy is stupid nah I never really

listened to podcasts this is not a pod clinic alright you niggas learn how to pod do it no you wanted to bring it up to say that he didn't get any money

you had a point to make no that's it that was just interesting hold on brother hey hey hold up man what's going on It's interesting. Oh, shit. What's going on, man?

I'm crazy. Fancy coat. Niggas knew they was coming. Had to go, man. Fancy coat with you. Are you going to play something from the sound? Yo, get out of here. Charles, where you at?

Charles. He's in the back. Oh, bathroom. Charles, where you at? Charles. He's in the bathroom. Oh, bathroom. Okay. What you need? No, no. I was just wondering if he was going to watch or whatever. No, he's going to watch, man.

He is the human embodiment of my inner monologue. So he says all this shit I be thinking. I don't think you can write that movie if you don't, Omar. What you mean? That movie that y'all got out What do you mean? The Michael Ealy movie Yeah

I don't think the mind that writes that movie Could not be that way I was just telling him Charles You're my inner monologue The embodiment of it Michael Ealy the good guy Word I was like huh

He deserved it too He dropped down on my fade list a little bit Nah that's good About time He was high on the fade list Nah he trying to fix his image now That's why I'm with him. Yeah, he dropped down on my fade list a little bit. Love, man. Nah, that's good. About time. He was high on the fade list. Nah, he trying to fix his image now. He's smacking his back. He trying to fix his image up.

What's the smack in the back? Will Smith got smacking back. Oh, he bought smacking back? He bought Smith. Yeah, man, let us do that. We're rolling. We're rolling. Well, I didn't even.

All right. Hello? He don't need an introduction. Nah, he needs an introduction. We got to. I'm trying. That's the area that I want to work on is my introduction. Ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen. We have a special guest.

Guest, guest, guest. Now listen, they hate when I have guests. Yeah. I ain't going to hold you. Why? Because they like me. Oh my God. What the fuck is he talking about?

That was narcissistic. Yeah, don't say. Huh? Not him. No, not him. No, not him. True to form. Ish, I'm not a narcissist.

They just use, hey, they using narcissists like they using parsley. Sprinkled on anything? I see you niggas say that. They throwing that word around like the chef put a little green shit on the steak. Because they like me. That's the definition put a little green shit on the steak cause they like me that's the definition of narcissism what are you talking about

yo you not gonna do this yo he do this shit where he get therapeutic on you get the fuck out of here with that shit they do like me

and y'all won't shame me y'all won't condition me into thinking that that's a bad thing to recognize that I'm liked and loved that's some new age shit recognize that I'm liked and loved. That's some new age shit where they trick you

into being guilty about being liked. Embrace your space. I'm letting you embrace it. I'm hugging my shit. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a special guest here, right? Who's promoing some shit. He's promoting the movie,

but the movie does look good. It was good. Thank you. I checked it. I would have had to have an uncomfortable conversation if they knew. That's all good.

Hey, man, just keep pushing it back. You call me fat face, we over that. Oh, shit! But wait, but what movie was that? Fatal Affair

with Neil Long. Come on. I was like, I'm watching like words. Come on. That's what we doing? But wait, but what movie was that? Fatal Affair with Neil Long. Come on. I was like, I'm watching like words. Come on. That's what we doing? Oh, come on, man. Like, are we just going to snap all day? You know, I'm an honorary Wayans.

Like, we can get busy. See what happens? But listen now. See? It'll caught you on that stage. And that was good. But he was a little. His face was heavier than we've known it to be in that movie.

We was in a pandemic. What you want me to do? But I didn't know he was like an avid listener of the show, Omar Epps. But when I spoke to him, he let me know. Yo, nigga. I heard that shit you said. I heard that shit you said. And I know where you live.

Yeah, man. I heard that shit you said. I bugged out with that one. Ladies and gentlemen, Black Excellence is here. We have Omar Epps. Brooklyn. What we doing?

Brooklyn. Is that still a thing? Yeah. Is that still a thing? I've been in Phoenix and heard them scream, is Brooklyn in the house? I thought Atlanta killed that.

No. Nah. All the Brooklyn niggas is in Atlanta. They still screaming Brooklyn. That is true. Good point. Good point. Yo, you're going to get banned from Atlanta. Nigga, that's my second home. Nigga. Oh, what's up, man?

How you doing? First of all, this came to the nines. Hold up now. That was uncalled for. You're looking good now. Thank you, sir. I don't know if I'm the first one with a blazer on on the joint. Might be, actually. You know what I mean?

Time to think about it. Cream. Now you came in here with the cream circle. Cream joints. You know what I'm saying? On my ghost face. Just need some wild berries. You need the wild berries.

Strawberry wild berries. Blowing cream. Blowing cream. Now listen, that's the part that, see, I know this is Omar Epstein. A lot of us know him from movie acclaim. Like, a lot of great movies, you saw that shit. Cool. We got to play Know the Legend one time.

But you could forget. Oh, no, come on, come on, come on, come on. He got it cute. It's a little different. It's cute. Oh, come on, man. Before I play this. Salute to Ra.

Last time I went out, I went out, last time we went out to breakfast or brunch or whatever that was, O was telling me like a real sentimental like private Tupac story right and in that it was about the time of Tupac's death

and my stupid ass sitting there cutting the steak mouth on the table jaw drops yeah but at the at the time did you

did you know Tupac that's your man that's your man right there Did you know Tupac? That's your man That's your man Did you know Tupac? Nah I ain't know Never heard of him Yo That's your man

You were alive You saw him My man was outside I was listening to the story I was engulfed in what he was saying Yo he's Joe Button is what we used to call

special. Yeah. In the building, in the project. No, no, no. Oh, no, no. Lil' Joe, yeah, he's special.

That's why niggas always left me alone. Even in it, that's why niggas left me alone. Yeah, he's special. Yeah, he's special. Yo, the grandparents

used to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, leave him alone. Antoine. He's special. Yeah, Antoine. You do a lot of jumping in over there,

right? Now. Classic. Oh, shit. Antoine He's special Antoine You do a lot of jumping in over there right Now Classic Oh shit I came up with Pump It Up from this Oh this is full circle How How Pump It Up from that

Oh shit Because Just Blaze gives me the fucking Beat of all beats How that, how? Huh? How? Pump it up from that. Oh, shit. Because Just Blaze gives me the fucking beat of all beats, but it was a three-bar loop or whatever weird loop. It's a weird five or something like that. Some weird shit that I wasn't familiar with at the time. So it took me a while to write to that, and when I wrote to it, it was time to get to the hook, and I couldn't think of a hook. I could not think of a chorus, and it was just great verses and a great beat, but you

knew the hook would take it somewhere. So I had a show in Florida, Tampa, somewhere, somewhere with writer's block trying to come and it was just great verses and a great beat but you knew the hook would take it somewhere so i had a show in florida tampa somewhere somewhere with writer's block trying to come up with the chorus to this record and i'm in the hotel room by myself and juice is on and here comes omar epps doing skinny face when he had the DJ audition. So he took... And I said, oh, I got it. I got it.

I got it. I got it. What that sounds like to me is... You owe him a couple bucks. Never that. I was just thinking the same thing. Never that. He don't own that.

I need publishing on that. He don't own that. Look, now you keep thinking about publishing. They want to come for it all. Alright, so we have a movie out, right? Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. It's coming out. I haven't seen it yet, but I saw the trailer and the trailer

looks good. Michael Ealy's not the bad guy. You're not fat face. It looks great. I'm watching this. This one I'm watching. I saw it. It's real good. There's going to be a screener, but the link didn't work. And you have the writer here, and he seems dark. So that lets me know.

The great Charles Murray. Oh, yeah. Charles Murray. Are you dark? He's full of shit. I have a town. I can spot a dark nigga, man. But listen, tell me about the movie.

Oh, it's a beautiful film, man. It's a story about... You saw it. Yeah, I watched it. It's a story about family, about brotherhood, about morality, redemption, and it's told intentionally through the lens of blackness. You know what I'm saying? Nice. But at the same time, it's a film for everybody.

We all know what it feels like to be around a table having these dinners or Nana's cooking, you know what I'm saying? It's such and such. Oh, here come cousins such and such. Uncle such and such cracked open a bottle. You know the bullshit coming. You know what I'm saying? It's such and such. Oh, here come cousins such and such. Uncle such and such cracked open a bottle. You know the bullshit coming. You know what I mean? You know it. Stuff like that.

But it's also a crime drama underneath it because it's like one of the brothers, my character finds out one of his brothers might have had something to do with something that's really heinous. You snitched? Well, you got to watch the movie. Man. Come on. See?

I ain't never paint you a snitch. I ain't never paint you a snitch. I ain't never paint you a snitch. But it's really about, you know, when we've been talking about it, it's like no one knows what they would do until they're in that situation. You know what I'm saying? Period. Like, it doesn't matter what it is. You just don't know what you'll do.

And you find out the true character of people in the moments of when shit is hitting the fan. Sure, indeed. You know what I mean? So it's a film like that. And I'm really, really excited. You haven't seen, I believe you haven't seen a film like this in a long time, especially from a black filmmaker.

You know, you think of the films like Mystic River or The Town. It's like, you know, they keep trying to restrain us for being able to tell stories like they tell stories those are two phenomenal movies though yeah but I'm just saying but I'm talking about the storytelling

and us being portrayed even like for instance you know these dinner scenes but usually in a black film the dinner scenes it's Thanksgiving it's Christmas

somebody passed away everybody coming back together true true true no this is just regular Sunday dinner yeah yeah the family did that shit every you know what I mean so every Sunday it's Christmas somebody passed away everybody coming back together true true true no this is just regular Sunday day yeah yeah the family did that shit every you know what I mean

so every Sunday we trying to as we always do try to push the needle and you know this power imagery that we discussed that

before is really important to me you know what I mean because I finally realize and understand that everything that I'm a part of through this artistry is going to outlast me so what am I giving what am I really giving to the world and how will that influence the younger

generations for the better so you're intentionally trying to find roles and be a part of projects that take that kind of mentality yeah I guess you it's definitely an intention, but it's not like I'm seeking specific things. I'm just, as I've opened myself up, the universe has sort of conspired with me. And if you get him to talk about the universe, we'll be here for eight hours. You say that like it's a bad thing. No, no, I'm the same way. I'm just letting him know. It could get universe-y fast.

So is there a God? No, sorry. We just jumping in off time. The important part, I don't know if I can double. Can you speak about the ownership equity part and the importance? Absolutely. Oh, yeah. I'd love to hear it.

Because that was the important part for me. Well, look, it took us, it took me and Charles eight years to make this film. I mean, this came from a conversation we had. And I was like, yo, that's a dope idea. Let me read the script. And he was like, I ain't wrote it yet. And I'm like, well, what the hell you got me all riled up for? And then we go through the process.

But all through these years, it was incredible. We just kept getting no after no after I don't know and this and that and all of that bullshit. And again, I believe in divine poetry. And I believe in divine timing. know after all i don't know and this and that and all of that bullshit you know and again i believe in divine poetry and i believe in divine timing so when things are ready the universe will open up like yeah you could do it now but when you talk about ownership that's that's the whole mission right now you know what i'm saying i'm i've been so blessed in my career so so very blessed in every way, right? But most of the films that people love and talk about, and I'm like, yo, I tell my kids, I'm like, yo, it's dope that people still watching this 30 years later, 20 years later,

but I don't own none of that. Rob Markman, Right. Rob Markman, You know what I'm saying? And that's not a fault of my own. I was 17 when I made Juice juice i ain't no shit about nothing of course yeah nothing about the business and i didn't necessarily have the the people that i worked with have been great but nobody was in my ear like yo you know x y and z and this is how this really works here's the matrix it took me 30 years to find out oh this is the matrix and this

is what this is about because where we come, you're just trying to get a check. You're just trying to feed yourself. If I can take care of my family, ooh, now I got a nice car. Ooh, I could buy a house. You're not thinking intellectual property and assets and all of these. You're not even thinking like that. How does it take you 30 years to learn that in acting?

I know how it takes us 30 years to learn it in music. But in acting, what are the steps? What are the pivotal moments do we realize?. But in acting, what are the steps? What are the pivotal moments do we realize? Wait, will you start looking around the room? Well, that's interesting in what you say because, in my opinion, it's way easier to learn that in music because music is so much more hands-on. You go out and touch the people.

You got to go perform the show. You got to go in acting, the delivery of a movie. You got to go through unions you got it there's all the red tape is different so you're constantly focused on just here's the check you know and here's the opportunity you're not thinking down the line and now that we've skipped forward to streaming no one's was imagining that could happen you know we know what that is in the music business you know i'm saying but in our business it's the same thing just in a different way and i'm happy for the younger generation that's coming up with this knowledge you know they're coming up with it like oh no i could do this that way or i could do this this way or you know i look at young cats like a michael

b jordan or whomever that's really taking that part of it seriously. You know, so, you know, they could offer the check. Sometimes you gotta know, you gotta balance it out. Like, yeah, if they back up the truck and, like, they're just gonna dump a pile of money, you know, if you need that at that time, you need to know how to work with it. Because at the end of the day,

from where we come from, it's all about hustling. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, you don't own none of that. And in 20 years, you still around. You're like, hey, they're replaying this on planes and like everywhere. Does that make you feel different

about the cultural equity that comes with a juice that comes with an in too deep? What do you mean by that? Like, those are staples. But you said cultural equity. Because there's a cultural equity that comes with juice. The way that we regard juice is like

they regard the notebook or something like that. I see what you're saying. No, it doesn't make me feel different anyway. That's the blessing. I'm so thankful because I wouldn't be here without the people. You know what I'm saying? At the end of the day, yeah, I put the work in, but people have to respond to you. You put the record out, but somebody got to listen to it and like it for it to have true meaning outside of you.

And that's what we do it for. So it's like, nah, that part of it, that's the blessing. I love the people. And I'm so appreciative. This part is on me to learn and to get better and to move and shake. And that's why I made certain moves. Even when I went to TV, that was an intentional pivot. That wasn't just a job.

I was sitting around. Because you're currently on TV. Yeah. Raising Canaan. Season 3 coming soon. I wish I watched that show so I could ask you. That's the only power show I did. Yo, you a sucker, son. And that's what does give you that smile. Raising Canaan is my favorite one. That's the only power show I did yo you a sucker son yo and that's what does the best one yo man

Razor K is my favorite what's the best one out of all of them call me fat face you don't watch my show no no but no but no I'm gonna watch it cause you in it

I've been listening to your podcast from day one and this dude man I just haven't seen it because of Kanan why what do you mean

oh wait no Kanan I watch no I watch Kanan he ain? What do you mean? Oh, wait, no. Kanan, I watch. No, I watch Kanan. He ain't watch it. Oh, he watch Tariq. I'm thinking of Tariq. He never watch it. He never watch it.

Oh, no, I love your shit. No, no, no. You never watch it. No, Kanan, I love. I confused it with Tariq. No, no, no. That's Meth and Mary. Don't put the trail up there.

I see what y'all doing. That's Meth and Mary. That's the chicanery. I see what y'all doing. Don't remind him. No, this is my show right here. He old. That Tariq shit, I'm not.

Put on Cheers or Hill Street Blues for this boy. That's him over there. And what do you think about some of those great white shows that they tried to force feed down our throats like MASH and Cheers and the fucking Love Boat, all this bullshit. Yo, the reality is. No, tell the truth. I'm telling the truth. You know we always gotta speak raw.

The truth is, listen, a great show is a great show. Nigga, was MASH great? I hated MASH. But Star Trek is great if they told us it was. I just personally didn't like MASH. But I was a kid. You know, I probably didn't understand half of the things that were going on. The theme song put me to sleep.

The theme song was hard. Nigga used to come on at 11 o'clock. And that's when it was night-night. All the time I liked MASH was in the hospital. It's like, alright, I'll deal with it. Oh, when It was night night All the time I like Madge was in the hospital It's like alright I'll deal with it Oh when they would When you were in the hospital When I was in the hospital

Oh alright We got Madge It's fine I'll just watch it I'm laid up That's crazy Yeah Nah but I

Look I love Cheers I used to love Mork and Mindy Like a great show Is a great show It was great writing on them shows Back in the day Yeah and it

Like I love all What's my man that um um norm norman lear he had some really great shows like you know what i'm saying and and you can appreciate that as an artist without color right i don't put that on the artist i put it on the design of the system right so most of these and you can go farther back than that when they haven't you know Cleopatra is a white woman. But that's not the fault of the artists that were constructing it. It's the design of the system. Oh, we tell this story that way, so forth and so on.

Oh, it's great, man. Yeah. He's a great conversation. But you see what I'm saying? Absolutely right. Absolutely. So where we're moving now, that's why I'm so excited for these young filmmakers. So where we're moving now, that's why I'm so excited for these young filmmakers. And I'm so thankful to still be around and pushing forward in the ways that I can, because they're changing that narrative, not only from in front of the camera, but behind the camera.

Question for you. Y'all spoke on the music business versus film. And you said it's easier in the music business, you think. And I think i was gonna jump in um do you think it's easier because of the puffs and the jays and the and the masterpiece and the jermaine dupree's as opposed to film we don't have that many tyler perry's you get what i'm saying oh we don't have that many gentlemen like yourself i We got Stan Latham. Stan is that dude. Stan is dope.

No, we got Malcolm Lee. I just wish we had a little. How does his brain work? I'm talking. He's so weird. This guy's good. We asked that question. Listen, man.

This guy is just an individual. Chill out. No, no, no. Don't do that. Everybody in here, by the way, for all who's watching or all who's listening, everybody's shaking their head when I'm saying that.

But let me ask you a question real quick. Let me ask you a question. I believe it's easier in music because of technology. Because you don't need nobody. True. You see what I'm saying? If you got a laptop, you got the program, you can make the beat. You can put a song on YouTube and just put it out.

And you hit send and it's out there. There's no red tape. There's no, oh, you got to go through. When you make a film, you got to, the actor's union, you got to direct this union. You got the producer's union. You got the grips and elect. They have unions. Make it big.

They have unions. Like it's all of these boxes that have to be checked. You made me mad. They're easily showing you musicians what you should be doing. Every category got a union. All of them. That's true. It should be a producer's union. It should be a rapper be doing. Every category got a union. All of them. It should be a producer's union. It should be a rapper's union.

It should be this union. But I'm saying to produce the thing is not only that, it's so many people. True. Right? It's like even if you and your squad was like, oh, we're going to make a movie. That's like 20 people or more cause now you gotta

get the municipalities involved where you shooting at where you shooting at permits and all permits and things of that nature you know when I watch

the movies now I'm looking at how many locations they shot in this is what I'm talking about cause now your budget gotta I hate that I do that

as a consumer like I wanna just enjoy the movie it's like listen to music no you can't no you're doing it as a whole you don't listen to music like a I think that was Blair that as a consumer. I want to just enjoy the movie. It's like listening to music. No, you can't. No, you're doing it as a owner. You don't listen to music like a... I think that was Blair Witch that broke my brain.

Yeah. Like, wait, y'all made how much from what? Shooting what? That? Where? What was the other one? It was Paranormal Activity. That's another one.

They made that for nothing. And then you see the margin like, oh my God. But Friday too Friday they really ain't leave the porch you get what I'm saying as far as location yeah yeah

they really didn't leave the porch I think I saw something about Police Academy recently they spent like 23 million or something right they spent some money on that that's a lot of you know but you gotta

figure Paranormal how much they spent on that thousand dollars and how much it make hundred that's what I'm talking about. You said 15 grand?

Think about that. And y'all want to sit in here and just listen to that. Because the whole thing was in the bed. In the house. In the house, yeah. Little handy cams.

Yeah, no, that's exactly what I'm saying. So in the music business, we had Barry Gordy. Uh-huh. And then, if you want to say you branched off,

you branched off into little subsets of Clarence Avon executive quote unquote ship in the music business and then that birthed the Puffs the Andre Harrells

why does that not exist in movie and film I think money is a big part Tyler Perry is doing what he's doing but he a billionaire now. Y'all ain't going to tell the truth, huh? No, the problem is there's only – the problem with Tyler Perry is there's only one Tyler Perry. That's what I'm saying.

He said he uses the Madea boys during sex. Oh, man. Wow, that was – Why did your brain work this? No, we just discussed it. We just came out. I was breaking news. No, I think that the money –

He uses the Madea boys during sex. Shut up. He said it. He didn't say it. No, that's the truth. He didn't say it. What that The money Shut up He said it He didn't say it No that's the truth He didn't say it What's wrong with this He said it

That's what I said He said it What's wrong with it I ain't close He said it Don't try to put it up On the screen You don't have to

Go try to hit his shit Yo y'all are wild son But back to Tyler Perry Tyler Perry has enough money To kind of get through The red tape Yeah but how did he get that Tyler Perry had ownership Coming in the of get through the red tape. Yeah, but how did he get that?

Tyler Perry had ownership coming in the game because he was doing these plays. He was making so much money that when he first came, like, hey, y'all should want to flip this into a...

I'm going to put it on DVD straight without the natural masterpiece. Y'all should want to flip this into a movie. And they was like, nah, we don't know. And he was like,

all right, I'll just go back out there. I'll do it myself. No. Create my own domain. And just keep doing what I'm doing because he was getting so much bread. Oh, okay. Stack up.

Stacking up that they was, someone in there was like, we need to make a deal with this dude. And he was able to get in that way. You know what I'm saying? Which is interesting because now they don't even want you if it ain't TV rights attached.

If we can't turn it into a television show or a franchise then yeah i mean that's a whole other that's a whole other conversation because now you're looking at the streamers and the way that the business is is transforming itself where they want to own everything the entire vertical you know everything was cross-pollinate whatever now it's like we own it from the inception to in perpetuity and that's the word right there for you young aspiring artists and creatives that y'all need to know perpetuity means forever life i done seen things in contracts that don't even make sense like if there should if we should discover life on another planet literally yeah i believe in a contract that oh we'll still own this image and likeness and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So that is that a shift your mind.

Like who's even thinking about that when you when you're constructing a deal? That's like make you think, do you know something? I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Then you start thinking about your legacy. Right. You start thinking about like, I think we talked about this too, but it's like you start thinking about, you know,

I think about Pac a lot. And Tupac did all that he did in six years. That's crazy. That's crazy. We did Juice when he was 19, passed away at 25. And all of what we've heard from him and know of him is in that short span but who owns it you know i'm saying who who truly owns his i guess you would call it catalog you know i'm saying does he what what were those deals he made for the movies that he did after

juice i could tell you right now i got paid 12 grand for juice it's no shame in the game was my first movie I was 17 I was hood rich saying like to me no you would you want but I'm just saying to you put on a fucking shelf for 12 grand man there's no royalties in that they all do not the Royce either the way that the royalty with people talk about oh residuals residuals go down the longer that the IP lasts yeah exists like that

you get the highest checks while it's still there right right and then it's just goals like this like I know you done seen checks with like

$15 you spend more money on the paper to print it you know what I'm saying I didn't know that yeah so it's like,

and that's why it comes down to ownership because when they're reselling the IP, people who have that true ownership back in whatever you want to call it, you know, if they resell the Joe button show for $25 million in France for six months, somebody, yeah, you know what I'm going to $500,000 another. You know what I'm talking about.

$500,000. You know what I'm saying? You're going to get a piece, a chunk of that. But you're talking about the entire world. It's seven and a half billion people or whatsoever. Most of the world now has some form of technology from every continent, every place, every region.

These are all deal points you know i'm saying is but they they swallowed all of that up they'll swallow up all the distribution points um that's the i feel like in music and in film that's the next uh that's the next point of attack the goma is the distribution because we could do all of this, but if I still got to go through somebody else to put it out. They're taking a third. They're going to take a third. You see what I'm saying? And what's the point?

And that's where streaming seems exciting. Uh-huh. But to me, I think the number is 1,350 streams equals one physical album sale. Who came up with this number? And they keep moving it. How do you come up with this stuff? That's the crazy part. They keep moving it.

So you're making the rules up as you go along. That don't even make sense. 100%. But when Michael Jackson sold 50 million records, that means 50 million people. Physical records and fine. Part of the thing. We know we sent this store 2,000 records. We sent that store such and such.

And I'm supposed to be getting X amount of that and that's what I'm going to get. That amount of people went out and bought that thing. That's a whole different can of worms. So it's like, wait, how does 1,350 streams equal one physical album sale? How does this work in film? Because you've mentioned streaming a couple times and we've

related it to music a couple times. How has streaming affected film from an actor perspective or from a producer filmmaker perspective or just from a quantitative perspective when you used to say um this film was a blockbuster smash it grossed xyz amount of dollars at the box office in the first weekend now how do you how do you put that in numbers when streams are out it's this it's this the way you're doing right now partly that but the way it's an unanswered question so because i've been asking this question like well how do you quantify a stream for a film or a tv show because you are saying everything is based on algorithms, which is AI.

It's pre-programmed. Which means you can control that. So you can tell me, hey, 10,000 people watch this show at such and such a time. I mean, even Nielsen was bullshit because there was only like 7,000 Nielsen boxes in the whole country, if I'm not mistaken. And I ain't never known nobody with a nilsson box in the project so it's like taking a poll it's relative to who you're speaking to that's right so it's manufactured in that sense sure and but then again there's another

part of it that's like is exciting like yo we really don't need the middleman no more because that's what it's coming down to direct to consumer dame dashman preaching that for years i love dame i respect him and his he's ahead of his time in that that train of thought direct to consumer you know what i'm saying we have the infrastructure enough if we work together together you know i can't do what you do you can't do what i do i can't do what you but we each take a piece what I do. I can't do what you do. But we each take a piece and say, all right, boom, let's pull it in together. And we kind of do it this way. And then really, where they really, really have us in Hollywood is the marketing spend.

Because guess what? Doing some wild shit on IG or whatever, whatever, that ain't going to get you, you know, a leading role in the movie. It don't work like that. You know what I'm saying? It's a whole different can of worms when it comes to that. And we're not even having the talent conversation, right? No, yeah, yeah. Like, you have the talent, obviously, but I learned a long time ago,

talent is 10%, your discipline is 90%, your hustle is 90%. You know what I mean? You know how many people I know that can sing, rap, whatever, rings around some of the top people in the game, but they don't want to walk to get that cheesecake. That's true. I just talked about it a month ago. I would have ran to get the cheesecake.

This is what I'm saying. Here's a question for you that's either really stupid or really brilliant on this topic. And like you said, for us in music, it's easier. In music, right? topic and like you said for us in music it's easier in music right if i make a four minute song and i it plays on the radio it needs to play for 60 seconds to count as a spin or 90 seconds count as a spin i know that same thing to exist in streaming for music oh film too i think too right and that's my question

if that exists in film i'm sure how long is it what's the amount of time because now we could start to do math yeah if a movie is streaming how long does a customer have to watch for it to count as a stream because it certainly is not the entire movie. I have that same issue with podcasting. A podcast is two, three hours long. I know a song. Only hours. Huh? Only hours.

Not true. There's more. There are some. There's more. Not a lot. But the point is, for the people that are putting out the content that way, the songs break up how they break up.

They listen to a three-hour pod why does that count as whatever y'all count it as when the time is time consumption it's a trick it's a trick in the system so i would feel the same way if i was an actor doing a three-hour movie and a nigga turned on his little app i don't care if you watched it for 20 minutes that's the stream that's what i'm saying that's what i'm getting to they have these analytics and they say oh we know that now i'm gonna tell you something we know that people only watch it for you know this amount of time and then they went on for some sense and then that's they're trying to take that um

that method and then it bleeds into how people are creating things now and that's the dangerous part because now they're like oh the trailer has to look like this or there's such because we know that you know people only watch it this amount of time and you and it's like that's why that's why that company quibi failed you know i'm saying and i knew it was going to fail because the idea behind it seemed you know qu, Quibi was a company that. How did you know? Because I bought that shit. I knew because I'm like, this, it's like, it's.

They had big names, big backing. They had original content. That never means anything. People that move the needle, that don't mean anything. Their whole thing was based around. Short form content. Not just short form, interstitial. Based around short form content, not just short form interstitial.

You know, we have the analytics that say women, when they're in the supermarket and they're online, they're looking at their phone for such and such amount of time and blah, blah, blah, blah. And we need to make content for that. And I'm like, you know how active life is. Yeah, you're not you're not factoring in, you know, a kid is running around, badass, and they got to go chase him down the aisle and do this. Or when people go to the gas station they act like this on their phone like. Why would you like to talk about all the things that the algorithms don't factor in you right? Because human creativity is the original algorithm. It's the draw.

But we're killing that. And you can't predict human behavior. That's the part of it that makes it fun. They say they can. How about they say they can? They say they can but let me ask you this. The whole room, any app, when you go on there and it says

suggested, you know, something, it's not where I'm at. Rarely clear the view. It's not where I'm at with it. Rarely. You never want to watch that.

You be wondering why are they sending this to me? I don't want to watch that. Because they think they know me better than me. Which disproves the algorithm. Which think they know me better than me.

So you think that's affecting filmmaking like in that you're trying to action pack the first 20? No, proves the algorithm. Which think they know me better than me. So you think that's affecting filmmaking like in that you're trying to action pack the first 20? No, I can... Pause this shit.

Alright, we back. Yeah. And we have extra mics. And we got extra mics. Off air, Ish was explaining to us that he's afraid of watching Paranormal.

I didn't say that. You asked me. Alright, so let me not... I don't want to lie on your name. Paranormal. You said you were scared of watchingormal. I didn't say that. You asked me. All right, so let me know. I don't want to lie on your name. You said you were scared of watching me. You didn't say that. Son, you said you were scared. He did say that.

I did not say that. So what you said? Fam, Paranormal Activity came up. Uh-huh. What's your name? I'm sorry. Charles. Charles, I knew that.

Charles was explaining how the example we use with Paranormal Activity, they spent 15 grand to make it. The dude has an executive producer credit on every single Paranormal Activity. And nobody in the world knows his name. As it should. So then we went from Paranormal Activity, the conversation, took a train, and we landed into scary movies, et cetera, et cetera. You told us you wearing out the house. You told us you were wearing out the house.

That's what I did. I had it under my bed too, right? You said you were wearing out the house. So I said, yo, I come from the Pentecostal background. We don't watch

none of the scary movies and none of that other shit. I don't even know what Pentecostal means. Pentecostal, that's the fun church right there. That's that music. You know what I'm saying? That's the Zaha, the church. That's the Z church right there. That's that music. You know what I'm saying? That's the Zaha, the church.

That's the Zaha. Yo. Hey, that's church Zaha. Hey, yo, African, you back there? You all right? Hello. Yo. Yo.

All right, so you come from the Pentecostal church. So I said that. You might have called a new one. Church Zaha. No, church Zaha is crazy. I don't engage. And they like, what? You don't watch scary movies?

And I'm like, no, nigga. In my household, the negative evil energy is coming in but you no no no no no no don't put it on the household and that ain't what you said too you said you were scared

yo I heard you say yo so you had the paranormal activity or I got up and ran out the house I didn't say ran out the house I said I left the girl's house power walked quick little

quick little a jog quick little strike. A jog. Quick little strike. And I don't remember enough of them. I'm sure I've seen one or two of them. None of them shits

was a different kind of scary. I mean, listen. The ex-sister's scary. Who's scary? Jason? Jason was scary when we was kids. Those were scary

when we was kids when they came out to me. Jason is a big, cocky white boy running around stabbing people. Wait, he was white? Right.

We never seen his face. I never seen him. He wasn't black. He wasn't black? How do you know he... Because he's made through the movie. How do you know

what Jason was? Yo, you niggas put race in Jason. Right? Race would tore Jason's ass up if he was black. And really,

the women don't want to talk about Jason because that highlights toxicity from women what Jason Moms did to Jason. Yeah, yeah. That was some foul. What y'all think, Jason just turned out like that? You think Will just arbitrarily smacked my man?

Oh, wow. Are we going in? I'm just saying. It's just trying his best to run from Charles' retort question. I'm not. So, no, no, no. And I'm just saying pardon me it's just trying his best to run from Charles' I'm not so no no no

so then and I'm not leaving it so Charles asked he said yo Charles right there don't you tell me what he asked no I'm

I'm introing Charles Charles said that I said yo I don't deal with that because in my household we talked about spirits and negative energy and I asked

oh he talks about the universe often. What do you think negativity does in the universe? It drains you, et cetera, et cetera. So Charles said, if that's the case,

we want to talk about what's going on with your Nikes. And I said, No, he said, you don't feel that negative whatever coming from your Nikes.

And I said, and I said, care? Because I don't know what the hell Charles is talking about. Well, OK, so when you think about what it takes to put those shoes together, when you think about the people who are basically going through slavery,

when you think about the people who are basically losing their lives. Muffins. Muffins. Oh, shit. Muffins getting cooked. No, I'm not going against them. I'm learning. When you think about the fact that they take $10 to $15 shoes

and then they sell them over here for $100 and something $300 thousands make them so needed that people will kill for them or you think about the fact that what people will do to gain ground

to afford those shoes you're not saying that that ain't bad spiritually absolutely and when you put it in that context of what people will do to gain ground to afford those shoes. Sure. You're not saying that that ain't bad spiritually? Absolutely. Absolutely. And when you put it in that context,

absolutely. Same thing with all of the Apple iPhones and Tesla and all that other shit. Shut up. You can't even write a movie without this dark mind.

No, they having an issue. They having an issue now. I would hate to look at Nikes and think of that pain. No, that's deep. That's therapy deep. What country is that?

What country is that where Tesla and Apple and all of them are mining shit? And they said they got African boys over there dying at seven, eight, nine years old in the mines for using all the shit for the phones. Right, or what they call conflict diamonds. No, Congo. It's in the Congo. It's in the Congo. Yeah, that pain. But that's Sierra Leone with the conflicts.

Takes that universe. That's true. I agree with that. I never thought of that. It's in the Congo. Yeah. But that's Sierra Leone with the conflicts. Takes that universe. That's true. I agree with that. I never thought of that. And take them black kids from Madonna. What? Take Madonna. Why y'all let Madonna run a little kids out there?

But listen, listen, listen. I'm joking, man. But you know what? This whole conversation, it kind of leads back to the idea of ownership. True. You know, when it comes to business. True. Because what, again, yeah, I like a good Nike dunk like anybody else because I've been inundated

and like doctoring with that. That's true. But what's wrong with the gay Swiss or a sneaker with no name? Or if I know Charles is making sneakers. You were. When I saw it came off. You were. That's not true.

That's not true. Nigga just smacking your head around in them shits. When you walked up to Shorty and she gave you the... And she laughed. You didn't even know, pussy nigga. Get out of here with K-Swiss. And that's right there. That's the problem.

That's part of the poison. You know what I'm saying if my mans is making some sweaters what makes them different why am I going to spend yo listen man it's so crazy they make

all of this stuff is all wholesale they getting the same materials from the same places they just slap a Balenciaga on it and mark it up

to you know $1,500 and this might be $100 you taking a shot you got Balenciaga on this might be $100. You taking a shot? You got Balenciaga on there? No, no, no, no. I'm not taking a shot at y'all. You're wearing Balenciaga, right?

Me? No, I'm talking about Ish. Oh, no, I'm not taking a shot. You just happen to be wearing it. Oh, damn. Yo, wow. Yo, Nike. I see what's going on.

Yo, you dressed well off of poor kid's sweat. No, I'm not. You want to start talking about that cashmere? You want to start talking about cashmere? I'm not. I'm Charlie really open my eyes. You want to start talking about that cashmere? You want to start talking about cashmere? I didn't even know

you had a Balenciaga sweat on. Yo, you get him to get this sweat. Whatever. Whatever. He saw the Balenciaga. He didn't realize he saw it. That's right.

No, he paid for it. This is Mr. Black people spend too much money on clothes. He paid for that. Yo, how much that sweat suit cost? I don't know.

I don't check prices. I don't check prices. Ooh. I don't check prices. Where you get it from? I've afforded myself the quality of life to where as I see it, I like it,

I'm getting it. You can't shame me into feeling guilty about it. No. Ask him now. Because, because, fuck him.

I think I know the reason. Rub that cash mail. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I think I know the reason. One, we all come from the mud. We come from the mud. Right? Yeah.

Two, wait, wait, wait. Clean it up for me from the mud. Right? Yeah. Two, wait, wait, wait. Clean it up for me. Listen, don't get defensive. Two, you got on, you know what it feels like to have and then have not. True. And then you have again. True. So, it's a part of you that's like, I'm doing all this shit I couldn't afford.

But like, yeah. Nigga, I could die tomorrow. Listen, listen to me. I relate to that because when I first got on, everything that my moms couldn't afford but like yeah listen listen to me I relate to that because when I first got on everything that I my moms couldn't afford to buy me as a kid all the shell toes can't stuff that wasn't even in style then I was like to get that though I'm going back to get that 15 I want every color I want every you know what I mean it's like I was reliving my childhood that's real you know what I mean and I'm just being honest but now it's like i don't care if i see somebody whatever's flyers fly to me in my eyes and my thing is when we take

it back to the ownership piece using that sneaker thing as a as a i know an african dude nigerian g day he has a sneaker company in nigeria self-made i'm trying to help i'm like yo these are dope i want the g post every time i wear these joints people like yo these are dope i wanted you to post every time i wear these joints people like yo those are dope and i nah these are my son got me these so i can't even he got expensive but every time i wear the product people make a remark i try to send them to the website or what have you but then when they it's like some people's if say the name it's like oh I never heard of that it's like to even react like that it's like we need validation

from somebody else you probably most more than anybody else in the room people hear a song and it could honestly be dope but if you put a name on it

or some unknown name on it if you lead with the unknown name, they just listening with their fist. Absolutely. I've done that plenty of times. I think that's whack, yo. I think that's whack because it's like we blind to the truth of what it is. You know what I'm saying?

We care about the name more than what it is. The name make it hot, not the actual. Or not hot. And so when we complaining about these things, we talking about, not complaining, but when we do complain as a people about the ownership and the distribution of power and all of these things, it's like we put too much weight into that. Like for me, if you're going to go to the Oscar place, let's go from this point of view. Who cares about the Oscar? Why do we give it weight?

Why don't we give more weight to the NAACP award or whatever awards are dedicated solely for us as black and brown people. But in this business, here's the quandary is, yeah, but if you get that trophy or the Golden Globe or whatever, your salary quadruples overnight. You know what I'm saying? And then

there's a deeper question of why is that? You see what I'm saying? By having that conversation, you're also getting into the roots of segregation. That's true. I was about to say civil rights. I was about to say

blame it on civil rights, but I ain't want to serious as that. Redline everything. Let's go, Charles. Let it go. I ain't want to serious as that. Where we are

is a very interesting place in history, period, in that these young cats and i'm speaking specifically to the music cats they literally don't need y'all for nothing literally so now what's happening is the young cast is coming up they're not dreaming about getting the record signing to the label signing to they like yo if i could pull in this put it out this if i can pull in this two million a year dolo just gotta worry about taxes and my whole team is just me and my two mans and we grinding and we grinding and they getting paid and then if you got the right team you can build

your your your merch spend everything outside of that why would you look at yo you know who gets doesn't get enough credit in this hip hop thing of ours is Tech N9ne yeah yo my G Tech N9ne is murdering he's been murdering he's been murdering

he's 15, 20 years of it's funny I walked into a conversation the other day they was talking about studio about who has the most followers and shit like that

and so throughout Tech N9ne is a a name amongst the Rihanna's obviously they have 200 million whatever Tech N9ne has a name amongst the Rihanna's. Obviously, they have 200 million, whatever. Tech N9ne has like 10 million followers or something like that.

Like, he's built his shit to a different. And that's just follow. I know that doesn't equal finances. It's the idea of owning the land, farming the land, bringing in the cattle, harvesting the cattle. The cattle. You know what I'm saying? The plants, the cattle, harvesting the cattle, you know what I'm saying? And selling everything that comes along with your land. The plants, the produce, everything.

And you're selling it, and it's all coming from you. Sure. And if we bond with each other, hey, you know, I got some goats, you know. Well, I got some cows. I got some chickens and the eggs. Now we're going to make our own farm. Yo, if we can win all on this piece of land, it can get bigger. You see what I'm saying?

So let me ask you that. In the music business, I was going to ask this question earlier too. In the music business, I mean, not the music, in the movie business, do you guys find that it's that same resistance and apprehension with regards to working with our own? Yes. I'm going to let Charles answer that one. and apprehension with regards to working with our own.

Yes. I'm going to let Charles answer that one. Yeah. As evidenced by the writer's names that are on Straight Outta Compton, four white people, five white people. But it was rewritten by four black people. Wait, say that again, please. What? Straight Outta Compton.

Put the mic closer. Oh, sorry. If you look at the names on Straight Outta Compton, if you IMDB it and look at the writers' names, those are all white names. But I know the black people who came behind those guys and did the writing. I was about to say,

it's damn near impossible for somebody that's not of the culture to write Straight Outta Compton. Yeah, but what that got to do with the business of Straight Outta Compton? That is crazy. You already know what time it is. Look at that. And so, and this is no slight against. Well, that's because they put Gary Grant's name up there.

He directed it? F. Gary Grant. Yeah, but, you know, and this is no slight against anybody, but we buy into, everything is about narrative. Everything is a story, right? And when you see brothers or sisters saying, well, I need this person to get me through the door, that's a narrative.

Sure. Right? Even when there are examples of people going, I don't need to go through that door. Like my own door. Right? It all comes down to what the narrative appeases in your ego. Because when you mention Tech N9ne, Tech N9ne has probably gone, hey, this path, if I got

to do all the work, I'll do all the work. And those 10 million people, I don't need 20 million. Right? In the movie business, the narrative is always, you want to be on the front of Variety? You want to be on the front of Hollywood Reporter? You want to be on the front of, you know, AdLive? Yeah. And there are people who are constantly, there are people who are still making millions of bucks on YouTube, right?

Mm-hmm. They ain't got that marketing. Sure. They ain't got that whole thing in place. Sure, sure, sure. But they don't care that they don't have all of that stuff in place but but that's life i think that some people would rather in any in any arena in any forum right even in in i own a construction company so you i know plumbers that make four hundred thousand dollars a year right three four

hundred grand easily i mean with no sweat but then you have people that will shun them but big up the lawyer that's chasing ambulances for 90 grand a year because the lawyer moniker and the doctor moniker sound better than electrician and plumber so i think the notoriety that comes along with being on vanity fair i could be making tech nine i remember joe and him first went on a slaughterlaughterhouse Tour. And he was like, yo, and this was,

how many years ago was this? 15? Yeah, this was 15, 20 years ago. And Joe was like, it was like 15. It had to be like 15 almost.

12 years ago. Yo, and Joe was like, I'm like, who the hell is Tech N9ne? And he was like, that's the point. And he said,

yo, these niggas have, I don't know if you remember even telling me the story. Like, yo, it's 18 wheelers. These niggas have one 18 wheeler

that is all merch in that bitch and then the other 18 wheeler the other 18 wheeler is Bentley's they traveling with their cars going on tour with them

so where so where that shifts is the narrative of the of movie the movie business is that they want you as the creative to detach from the business. We'll handle that for you.

You don't want to be burdened by this. We got you. It's a headache. You want to be placated. You want to be lifted up. You want to feel like you're a one of one. We'll take care of it. We're going to market you and boost you up for your notoriety.

Exactly. But we're going to steal all the bread that's beneath. That's the same thing they do in the music. They do it in music music they do it in music they do it in everything and like to what you was saying about the new

the acts today that can put it together themselves like they don't really need these companies these labels that's when they're gonna tweak the rules

like alright cool y'all found a way around us so we're gonna change the entire board up to where you're gonna need us you still need us

now we just created a whole new door that wasn't even there so for you to get on a playlist where you're going to need us. You still need us. Now we just created a whole new door that wasn't even there before. So for you to get on a playlist, you got to come through us. Yeah, now it's playlists. You got to come through us. You got to have

co-ordinators. Let me throw this at you. Let me just say this real quick, real quick. Hold on, hold on. Okay, go ahead. I'm sorry. So let me just throw this at you.

I'm going to say three names. Issa Rae, Lena Waithe, Justin Simi. They're white people. You know what they all have in common? YouTube. They created themselves in the YouTube universe

to a degree that when they walked through the doors, they had the power of... They could put their penis on the table and say something. Got you, got you. Lena Waithe, who and who? Issa Rae. Issa Rae and Justin Simien. I don't know.

Justin Simien. Justin did Dear White People, right? But here's what he did. He did the same thing that Morgan Cooper did, which led to his two-season pickup for Bel-Air. He created a two-minute trailer for Dear White People. And he put it on YouTube. And it got so many hits that when they walked into the studio,

they said, look, these people are going to become the audience. True. Is that what they did for Bel Air as well? Yes. Bel Air's trailer was amazing. I remember us coming in months before and was like. A kid from Kansas City, he says it. I'm driving across the bridge and I said,

oh, I wonder what Fresh Prince of Bel-Air would look like if it was a drama. Today. And he made a two-minute trailer. Wow. What's crazy is- It just blew up so strong that people went, oh, there's something here. I buy into that.

Right? Got you. But what they were creating- So they had to shoot the trailers before they even have a show. Yeah. Somebody just did the same thing for Martin. Got it. For the Martin. Think of it- The the same thing for Martin. Got it. For the Martin.

Think of it. The exact same thing. Made a drama trailer. A long form version of a deck. Of a demo, yeah. Of a deck, right? But what I was going to say is that, and then to me, there's like this deeper thing. Even with like me and Charles, we've become close friends over this whole journey.

close friends over this whole journey but I did have people on my side on my quote unquote team like I don't know if you want to work with him why? he got a bad reputation no he is great I know that but I'm like that's what I'm saying

that's how they dissuade us from working with our own but I'm like yo first of all he's an incredible artist I think the guy's a genius and we broke bread together being around our kids and all of that Like, yo, but first of all, he's an incredible artist. I think the guy's a genius. And we broke bread together, being around our kids and all of that. There's that part of it. But here's this thing that we're trying to do that offers ownership to both.

So why would you push me from that? I was also called a tyrant by one of the biggest agencies in this town, in L.A. But you seem that way. You don't seem like you comply. Yeah, you don't seem like I'm conforming. But here's the thing. Look at it when it doesn't look like me. You're a mogul. Exactly.

Or you're ambition or you're aggressive or whatever the case may be. Wait, wait. Hold on. Follow on the flow of the conversation. Cause I know it's probably going to come up, but stick with what you just said. What were we talking about earlier today? When people were talking about,

you know, the will, Chris rock and things like that. What was the counter? That it was mental health. But also not, but hold on, hold on.

Talking about the, well, let's compare. Right, right. Tom Cruise, right? Tom Cruise having that meltdown that you can find the audio of on YouTube, on Mission Impossible. Christian Bale.

Christian Bale, yeah. Christian Bale, right? I mean, I can go on and give you a list. Mel Gibson. It's a bunch. Mel Gibson telling his wife that nine N-words are going to show up at her door. I hope you get right by a pack of wild niggas.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like we're not allowed to make mistakes and be human? Because if you keep the narrative, people don't get it. If you keep the narrative a certain way, you also have to understand that you've been trained to accept exactly

and that brings it back to what you were saying about the sneakers no you're right i said that brings it back to what we were talking about earlier about the sneakers yeah and my whole thing is about validation my whole thing is about us working together. The sad part of American history and history in general is that black people have to take care of our tribe. But even with what you guys have built here, the tribe has nothing to do with race, but that's a unique thing. And it's a normal thing.

That's exciting. Moving forward in the future. My kids, I'm pretty sure your kids, their friend groups don't, they don't even look at race the way that we do. They don't carry that weight. But in the heaviness of making real moves in terms of business and ownership and this, that, and the other, and when you get into the machine and you realize, oh, this whole thing is really, really rigged in a legislative way. Not just Hollywood or music. oh this whole thing is really really rigged in a legislative way yeah not just you know you got a lot of music it's like they got laws that you know what i'm saying it that's that will

rattle your mind and so i say this to the people who may not be of color parks aside because he's black hey surprise no one knew i'm white you. You just understand. Open-minded. But I'm just saying, respectfully, we're just trying to get our tribe together to figure out how to work together as a unit. Because ultimately, that's what it's all about. You know what I'm saying? It's about, quote-unquote, best man or woman for the job and inclusion and things of that nature. But if I don't know me, how can I include you in what I'm doing? You see what I'm saying?

Here's one of the things that I got called a tyrant about. Oh, you did some shit. Let me hear. When we were looking for... They called me a tyrant too, but I know. When we were looking for a project, everybody kept saying,

oh, you know, we have to find someone who can handle this. A DP, for example, that has the experience, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was pushing for DPs of color. Of course. Women, right? Of course. They would go, yeah, but, you know.

And I would go, hold on a second. Explain to me, was this person that you're telling me who has experience, were they born with it? Mm-hmm. How did they get to being this experienced person? Why are we not taking these shots on these people?

Why are we not allowing them to fail the same way the guy who just won an Academy Award for Best Cinematography has probably failed? A bunch of times. Who was our DP on our film, The Devil You Know? We had a 5'2 Italian woman who was six months pregnant. And killed it.

Right? Because the narrative, it's not about race, it's about power. And the second people understand that you can take power away from them, understand that you can take power away from them because now that we're in the digital age sean baker made tangerine on his iphones matthew cherry made a movie called nine rides on iphones but here's what they know is stuck in your brain if i don't do it like them, I won't get noticed. So they sell you the notoriety. Exactly. And the fame, as opposed to,

because a lot of people, the notoriety and the fame is worth more than the money. Right. So the guy who's directing, who directed Doctor Strange, the sequel, which is like a $300 million movie.

He came from a $325,000 movie called Evil Dick. John Carpenter came from a $60,000 movie called Dark Star. Right? John Sayles, who's considered one of the best writers in the business, did a movie called Secaucus 7, $60,000. And then they go on. Because the path says you can make your own path.

Right? You talk about Friday. Friday costs a million bucks. The reason Gary Gray is such a dope dude, he put his own money back. His check, he put it back into the movie so he could have more 35 millimeter footage. Right?

What is very simple is they have fooled us. And when I say they, I'm just talking about the people who have the high seats. The power. The power, yeah. They have fooled us into thinking you cannot toil the land until you use their tools. Mm-hmm. You need them. Yo, give that man some.

Yeah, yo, give that nigga some pop-up. This guy's good man no I knew looking at you when you walked in that you would depress me you make me sick no you make me sick

cause you and Corey argue with me about the same shit all the time you fucking I feel like stabbing you yo I don't

I don't have his his uh I don't have his what's the name voice. You just come in screaming because your girl is white. He's actually not true. That has nothing. It's a joke. No, no, no.

I'm just saying. No, dog. Hey, audience. Joe's lying. I thought it was a joke. Joe's lying. But but Ish. No, no, no, no, no.

Ish is right. But I was going to interrupt him and say, how can it be about power and not be about race? Because eventually, you ready for this? I'm listening. They bring them in. They bring us in. And they go, hey, you want to be on this board? And the niggas, oh, stop it, because them niggas do it.

Yeah. And them niggas do it. Yeah. Yeah, but that falls in line. That's in lieu of the smoke and mirror shit that we talking about. But when us... If I can go get one of ours

to go sit here and attract ours and have him not aware of the actual power structure... Who says he's not aware? He could be aware. Who says he's not aware? You put that variable in there. Okay.

You put the ignorant variable in. He's aware. You're right. I'm talking to you. So let's go with that. You're right okay he's aware i'm talking i'm talking to you so let's go with that you're right he's aware and don't have the nuts to actually try to change the line in the sand so the same thing applies listen they might have the i know mad nigga true hold on you said what if you put someone in that position and the thing is if that person doesn't have those qualities they ain't qualify for that position they're not gonna. And they're not going to stay.

And they're not going to keep you there. And this is about us. But you're in a position because somebody put you there. No, no, no. No, no. I'm saying y'all want to skip that part. And I won't. No, let's not skip it.

Again, that's why I said earlier, the roots are in segregation and integration. Because when we were segregated, we had more what? Everything. We had more jobs. Everything. we had more what everything we had more jobs everything we had more doctors we had more grocery stores guess what and they saw the money that was being created and they went hold on they are where the money is let them come eat at our fucking back door no our back door not even the front door we're gonna feed them at our back door and they gonna run to validate themselves they gonna come eat at our back door

instead of eating at their own front door they just calling the door if you're future movies we gonna do that they just calling the door they didn't say it was a back door

you're right until they came through we on a tear and they sent your dumbass to the back you're right we on a tear they can't stop us no more.

What y'all said earlier about technology, they can't stop us. We trying to bring a wave. In any industry. We trying to bring, and that's why I always use, especially for my culture, obviously, but just the music business in terms of the younger generation, the ingenuity, the entrepreneurship, that these young kids are not blocked in their minds with the old way of thinking. Right. And they have the tools.

But that comes from somewhere else. They have the tools to just, why can't we do it like this? They say necessity is a moral invention. Well, how do we get it out? This isn't it out. And there's a platform for that. And I'm saying something deeper. It's like we're going to get to a point where it's just like and we already see

it right it's happening with the puffs and the jays and everybody that you mentioned but who owns soundcloud who owns tunecore who who actually owns these that's next but that's what i'm saying progression that's what it's the progression and that's what I'm saying. It's the progression. And that's what I'm saying. So to Joe's point, when he said, yo, they take you and they put you in a room. Right? They do. But that person that's in that room is learning information that we didn't once have. And that's the benefit of one of us being in the room. And now we're soaking up the information.

Because that's the only thing that they could keep from us before. No, here's the bigger, let me finish. Here's the bigger problem. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

We have it. We have it. We just don't. You know the best place to hide a book? Hide a message, you mean, in a book?

No, hide a book. No. In a library. In a bookshelf. Right? So, most of the stuff that I learned, I didn't go to film school, I went to the library. In the bookshelf. Right? So most of the stuff that I learned, I didn't go to film school.

I went to the library. Me too. People have all the information. It's there. Yo, y'all know about the library this podcast. My nigga. No, what happens is, what he's saying with the library, the information is there. We choose not to seek it because we too busy on Instagram.

And we too busy buying Nikes. And we too busy doing all of these other things that are distracting us from greatness. In fact. But in doing that, we blame them for us not having greatness. When it's right at your fucking fingertips, we'll blame them because that's the scapegoat for not having greatness. Instead's right at your fucking fingertips we'll blame them because that's the scapegoat for not having greatness instead of going out to look instead of getting it on our fucking own we say yo we can't get it because they won't give it to us we're chopping our way through the forest so it's like who owns instagram who owns twitter we know who owns

facebook this company swallows that company it It's capitalism at its finest, right? But when do we, you know, invest into us? Why is not when Robert Johnson still owned BET, why wasn't everything black coming through that structure? Why? Segregation and integration integration it's the same thing you know but i'm just saying this out loud in terms of the for the future generations because in 10 years it's going to flip you know there's a there's a 15 year old kid right now that is studying somebody like tech nine or like you mentioned jade or barry gordy or whomever they taking all the information because you you can't say the information ain't there because we're in the information age we're

literally in the pit of it like everything is right there available excuses moot now so right and that's what do you mean yeah you just being a contrarian right now well that's who I am at my core but that's not what I'm doing right now the information age I find could make it a lot more difficult to find information that's valid because whatever your belief is

you can find information to support it in the information age I was actually just thinking about this the other day when I was reading something in that Apple News so to that you say I be arguing with idiots I was actually just thinking about this the other day when I was reading something in Apple News just whatever, read the news you can find I be arguing with idiots and the idiots will go google something idiotic they'll find it

yo look this nigga stupid too I'll be like no good for y'all that's a consequence of just being in this moment that's never happened that's like journalism not talking about y'all, but just journalists used to- I ain't y'all. I'm one of the best rappers ever lived.

All right, go ahead. You looked it up? No, but- That's a first. They call me no fucking journalist. No, but I'm just saying, like, it used to be they had multi-billion dollar corporations that would vet the information that they were going to spew. Encyclopedias. You couldn't just say this.

You had to go to this source and get that. You had to make sure that this was spot on because you're going on the nightly news or whatever. And now it's like anywhere from anybody, right? And I get that. That's how Elizabeth Holmes came in. Oh, not only that, they also would make sure whatever information going out there

is information they want to go out. Exactly. Right. They still do that today. Yeah, we're not going to let... We still do that today. The secrets on how to do ABCD, we're not letting that out.

They still do that today. Don't you dare speak. I'm speaking to Joe's point about the information age. It's there. There's still no excuse because it's there. It's there. When you buy the information age there's still no excuse because it's there it's there

when you buy a camera there's a manual in the box that teaches you how to work the camera most people take the camera out the box and just start fidgeting with it

yo there's a whole ass manual right there read it read it from front to back that's the talk I had about kids and iPads instead of buying that camera you could jump online

to see if that camera is even worth buying versus three or four other comparable cameras that's my point and you gotta dig you might have to dig deeper but it is what it is and then there's no excuse and then and then hold on and then if you have a mind like like charles murray you know what i mean and and then me and him pair up and then two is better than one and we start throwing around ideas now what then we get you in the room you know i'm saying then we get you in the room it's like yo this thing really starts to come i'm coming i'm coming to the writing room nigga see what the fuck is going on

we trying to bring that up in here the entrepreneurial spirit that is in the young part of the music business to the film and television game that's what we're trying to do you know what i'm saying so we're out there and we can walk and chew gum at the same time we need a cat that has a seat at their table while we building our own table simultaneously we can do two things at once that you like to say that all the time two things and that's the truth because you know that's how yo we need somebody yo go get a job work there learn look at lebron dog yep you know i'm saying he put his squad on because it was like yo go shadow this agent go go learn the business go learn this how they do this learn the

inner workings and then bring it back yo peace we gonna put our own thing together that's right but the best part about what you're saying is it's different when someone like LeBron is sending those guys through a door than when they're plucking someone out of a pot. Right. That's true. That's true. And it's fun to look at. But most people don't have the resources to send them through the door. And it's fun to look at the niggas LeBron didn't care about, too.

You talk about dark. You can tell I'm talking about a bunch of niggas. I won't say cause smack in his back but yeah there's a few niggas he didn't really care for he let them just go ahead to your earlier point though

technically about slap wasn't a smack either is acceptable technically they think it was he think it was fake it was

it was it was closed handed he think it was fake it wasn't it was fingers it wasn't fake fingers it was i don't know to your to your earlier point about information this i know you right because around christmas time right i found this instagram page and this is a little white boy and he found a job so i i give it up to niggas that just create content like that but he was showcasing perfumes

and colognes and letting people know why they should or shouldn't purchase them and i was so amazed by this because how the fuck do you do that with a scent yeah this nigga said yo bakarot and you can get this smell like this you can rock with it smells good this is a lot cheaper this one is $40 yo mad women hit me to tell me about this dude and in my head I'm saying but you don't know how anything smells don't you have to smell

this and then a month later we had to come in here and talk about a new TV that was coming out where you could smell you could put your tongue on the thing that's disgusting yo it's disgusting, yo. It's disgusting. It is. Y'all are really, y'all,

back to, y'all are so depressing. You too. What? Y'all niggas start talking too much real shit. How is this depressing? Shut up. That's uplifting.

This is enlightenment. What's up, man? Should Will have smacked the nigga or not? Let's get back to ignorance. Oh my god I was about to say This nigga just wanna talk Ignorance and kiki all day

Did you just give him A signal or something No hell no That ain't my bad That ain't my bad You don't even know how to be ignorant That ain't my bad You a little too mature

That's not my bad I might be a little ignorant Listen I have Massive respect for both of those Individuals And you know You know things happen sometimes it just happened on one of the biggest stages

in the world you know what I'm saying and you can't predict human behavior so I just you know I wish them both the best and I'm confident that they'll work that out behind the scenes thoughts and prayers thoughts and prayers

I ain't really mean for you to answer. You my guy, so I wouldn't put you in that spot. But, no, you know, we here to talk. And that's why we're depressing. Charles, where you from, man? Gary, Indiana. Okay. Oh, that's why you fucking depressed.

Yeah, the murder capital in America. The thing is. No wonder you wrote some films. We can't use the Jacksons and the murder capital. Word. There he is. No wonder you wrote some films. We can't use the Jacksons and the murder capital. Word. And Freddie Gibbs. And Freddie Gibbs. And Charles Murray.

That little tiny ass house the Jacksons was in, man. If you fill up your gas tank right now, that's a pair of sneakers. I was trying to paint me as a nigga that idolizes other cultures but my own. I ain't say that at all. You told me I love the suit because it's Italian. Galante, whatever the fuck that shit is. Galante. Salute.

You looking beautiful. You got that shit on. Thank you. I seen you telling me in the comments, yeah, but these Bottega. So I was like, oh. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Someone in the comments said, what are those? They asked a question.

No, no, no, not the person you responded to. No, no, three. That was three. He said, what are those? Are those Wallabies?, no, no. Not the person you responded to. No, no, three. That was three. He said, what are those? Are those Wallabies? No, broke nigga. Those are Bottega. Shout out to three.

Wait. Shout out to three. Wally's is the most comfortable joint ever. Not to him. Not to Joe. You like wearing them hard ass. Yo, you niggas let Ghostface tell you anything.

Stop it, yo. You don't like Wally's? Yes, I like Wally's. If Bottega made them, he'dallys. That does not mean that I thought they were the most comfortable option out there. When were Wallys the most comfortable? Yes. I'm only been trying to tell these niggas for ages. I'm bougie, yo.

I'm going to be on your side for a second. You don't want to get into a fight wearing a pair of Wallys. Because you're... Because you're because you slide no around. I get that. I know.

I wore Wally's to the proms. I never had like I wasn't putting them on for my day to day. Nigga I wasn't from Shaolin. Next award show I go to

I'm wearing Wally's and I'm gonna show you up. They ain't letting you in. You put some Wallabies on and try to show up there. I might slap somebody. Damn, I feel like there's some...

I might slap somebody. I feel like there's some other shit I needed to ask. Oh, but I'll ask him off air and private. I don't remember right now. Charles is the wild card. I mean, you need to go.

You don't need to pod no more. He's got a great pod voice, man. As I told you, Charles... Great pod and brain. Charles is my inner monologue. I get it now. The things I think. But when you said that, I knew who he was.

I didn't get it. Wait, if he's that, then we have issues in here today. All right, so the movie's out now. Yep. Yep. Only in AMC theaters. And then we'll, you know, we'll be coming to streamers soon after that. Oh, we got a snack to get to the streamers, man.

These niggas playing with us. They playing with us, hell yeah. They better not be playing. One of the five fingers. Say it in the face. What? Stop. Yeah, nah, we getting this to the streamers, god damn it.

Yeah. We need to see Michael Ealy be a good guy for a change. Michael Ealy, the legend, Glenn Turman, Vanessa Bell Calloway, Will Catlett is nasty, nasty, something. He's a problem. Vaughn, like, the cast is crazy. My wife was in it. Yeah.

My wife and my daughter co-wrote a song that's in it. Oh, man. Oh, that's dope. Yeah, man. It's dope. Holy shit. Yeah, two songs, actually. But it's just really dope, man.

And I'm just... I've been calling it an experience. It's not a film. You know? Because when you see this joint... I mean... I watched it, yeah. You see what I'm saying?

Like, it just... Yes, I agree. I told everybody. I'm like, yo. Yeah, he told us. He said it was good. I was like, yo, this one's good. He said we i'm like yo yeah he's all us yeah he said it was good i was like yo this one and he's hard on the black films too so oh damn not yet uh no because the black films ain't really black films like don't yeah but see the thing is

but then charles can speak to this better than i can but like like it's like we don't see films like this with us in it but we see the majority culture get to make films like this. And that's what was so exciting to me about this whole endeavor. You know what I mean? And I think that's part of the reason why we got so many no's. But, you know, for all the creators out there, you keep pressing, you know, because all you need is that one yes. I was going to ask you that. You know what I'm saying?

And then when we're going, where we're trying to get to is we create the yes. You understand what I'm saying? The numbers. We don't have to go nowhere. Yo, yo, Joe, blah, blah, blah, blah, this, that, and the other. And we put it together. And if we have a proper business model, like I said, nah, go get that job. Go sit at the table.

Learn the system. Soak it up. So we know how to cut the right corners. So you know how to implement it and come back to us. While we are. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Are you going to see I Am Legend 2?

I would. Because I loved I Am Legend the first course. That was dope. Katow can't trip this guy up. And lastly. What? The five bangers. Lastly. Oh, sorry. Katow can't trip this guy up. And lastly... What? The five bangers got in the face! Oh, sorry.

I didn't mean to do that. You meant to do that. I didn't mean to do that. And lastly, I want to be an extra in one of these fucking films, yo. You want to be no extra. When I watch these films now,

I watch the extras to see if I could have done that. Yo, Joe, you're part of the coaching now. Like, you could play a role. You could be Joe Budden. Yeah, what's wrong with you? There's so many things you could do. He don't want to be Joe.

He want to act. Nah, I want him to be Joe. You could be locked up or something. Let's start off with that. Yo, why you not be locked up? That's what I'm saying. No, I wasn't trying to. You went straight to locked up.

No, I wasn't saying that. Nah, you got to challenge Joe. No, listen to what I'm saying. You got to challenge him. But you're saying that. Nah, you got to challenge Joe. No, listen to what I'm saying. You got to challenge him. But you're saying him being locked up would be a challenge. First of all, that would be triggering, right? He'll have PTSD. Yeah, I wasn't even saying that.

But he's not going to be able to remember his lines. We know that. Yes, he could. Nah, Joe would. Nah, he could. He could remember rhymes. Lines is different. Because the other person talking to you might change it up too,

and then you got to be present to do this. Well, then the director could scream the lines from behind the camera, and I'll say it. See, that's the lazy approach. You think Alec Baldwin shot that nigga? Wow. I don't know. I wasn't there.

Yo, you should go, because I'm about to start asking real questions. You better get out of here. Omar Epps, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah. Round of applause. Charles Murray,, ladies and gentlemen. Round of applause. Charles Murray, the devil you know. Charles Murray, the devil you know. Outright this second.

Let's support that. Let's get that to the streamers. Let's get it everywhere it needs to be. Michael Ealy, sorry you couldn't be here. Shout out to you. Yeah, man. Yeah, go ahead. That's it.

Weird. Nah, and that's that, man. Round of applause one more time man friend of the show shout out to y'all man another two hours another 40 questions

easily yeah nah he might need to come back nah nah he gets the he gets the oh love

appreciate you you look sharp go kill these niggas man you know it no doubt you know it hey Charles man I could be an extra i'm telling you i could do it

i could do that and we should kick it because i'm gonna write a sick demented twisted type of mystery murder movie too one day and you're gonna be like oh shit that's that pod nigga that was just running his mouth about nothing like honestly huh you shouldn't be talking about being extra how come i can't just give you a role There you go I can do it I can do it See finally some support Cause when I went and

Went for the audition For Daredevil I came back here They all laughed at me But I was taking Acting classes I was like You was taking acting classes

Yeah niggas laughed at me Took it serious Yeah nah I'm gonna do that shit one day I'm gonna Listen that's quality of life For me man How many lives

Could you live In the one that you get Yo And I wanna do it See you heard what your man said That's how you do But O really loves me man Exactly

He said while you're taking acting classes Come talk to him Charles we gonna kick him man Give me some juice We gonna kick him I'm coming to Gary I'm gonna go out Yeah yeah yeah

No yeah no Charles you ain't gonna find me In no fucking care Wait what'd you say He said I ain't in Gary I ain't Gary. Wait, what'd you say? I ain't Gary. I ain't Gary no more. Hey! Ladies and gentlemen, the amazing Omar and Charles Murray.

Thank you. Hey! Yo, go check that. Yes, go check that. Yeah, I might watch it tonight, man. I only haven't seen it because I'm waiting on Baby Girl to get back so we can watch it together and play footsies. I want to watch it with my, you know what I mean? My little streaming link didn't work, man. I'm going to have Girl to get back so we can watch it together and play footsies. I want to watch it with my, you know what I mean? My little streaming link didn't work, man.

I'm going to have to re-up. And that's why I'm, yo, we back on? Yeah, we back on. It's honestly, yo, shout out to Charles Murray and Omar Epps. Word. Omar Epps is that dude. I feel like we could pop with them for six hours straight. Mad jokes, all that shit.

Charles Murray ready to go, though. He got it. Well, because he got work to do. No, I'm talking about he's ready to go. Oh, go in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, them two dudes. Listen, brunch at Haven with Omar Epps is different.

Like, I was about to ask him what he thinks everyone's role is in the simulation currently. I was about to ask him what he thinks everyone's role is in the simulation currently I was about to send him I know what get him going now once you said once you get him started he's going to keep going I slept then he kept going he kept going

but it was cool I didn't even really notice he kicks it like the niggas he one of us I know but I know him from Juice so I didn't even really notice no no no he kicks it he kicks it like the niggas like he kicks it he one of us I know but I know I'm from Juice true

so and ER and all of them so I'm learning when you're talking to these people in person like during in our relationship

I'm learning about you in real time so when he say oh shit your son over there I'm coming to kick and I'm bringing a present like it's like nigga

oh that's dope about you I didn't know and then when he get to talking about hip dope about you I didn't know then when you get to talk my hip oh sure I know you the head we were under his hip hop shit I make sense juice the roll pop they didn't have no money so they wasn't casting casting hip hop niggas like it made it makes sense though but uh that was great shout out to them that no that was that was great and in this oscar week word what a great conversation that absolutely like wow and with a great movie that's dropping ish we not the same me and you like what you said you had 30 sleepers on your phone like just in this

one area just in this one area like i think your respect level for me should should rise it's already there no look at you trying beef look at you trying beef It's already there. Look at you trying beef. Look at you trying beef. It's already there. Look at how you said that. I just took your little ammo away. My shit away? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If the fans think you know how to deal with me. Nah, I slipped.

If the fans think you know how to deal with me. You just swung. This nigga, man. He slipped that one. I'm going to Savannah Ray. That's where I'm at with it. Damn, there was something else I wanted to talk to y'all about that was important. I've been here for a while.

Yeah, we got a picture. It was something else. Oh, somebody got away. It's fine. One of y'all got away out there. I had a message for y'all. Savannah Ray, best is yet to come. Some of y'all already know. Some of y'all don't. That of that a message for Savannah ray best is yet to come some of y'all already know some of y'all don't that's what I'm here for you You got the whip and I got the keys, baby

They trying you, they gotta deal with me, baby Gotta pass and it's not a deal breaker Giving you the best of me Ain't like there's no guarantees You know that my love ain't free Still I know the best is yet to come Stress free like a backwood-key like what's the password? I push, I push whenever you get too close

Defense mechanism from a sperm donor Used to wanna be my one and only What are the chances that you're here for me? Just me, this love shit wasn't real for me And at this point it's you and nobody Baby you're the best of me Ain't like there's no guarantees You know that my love ain't free

Still I know the best is yet to come Is yet to come It's brand new old music, Savannah Ray Best is yet to come, shout out to her It goes It goes Nego Nego Nego Nego Nego Nego

Nego Nego Nego Nego Nego Nego Nego Nego there's a little tune a little something just a little jazz my time all right i'm going back to this nico album man this album is great i'm gonna play uh come on let's go by tyler

tyler you better stop adding me you better stop trying to troll me i hate him i hate that yo what he said to you i just hated it i hate that nigga, yo. What he said to you. I just hate that nigga. I hate that nigga. I told you I was being ready. You always got excuses. And you know I be on top of things. Punctual my proper name. On the dot is not your aim.

Although we in love, we are not the same. I hit you on that celly. You said you needed five. I was more than twelve ago Claim you got your hands tied Time stuck like Velcro Georgia peach on east side Like it's ATL

You lackin', you trippin' You slackin', impatient Be waitin', confused like what happened You get attitude cause I'm gettin' mad Cause you gonna take twenty minutes and a half And on top of that, I gotta get gas I'm out of freeway, pick up traffic What the fuck is you doing?

We gotta dip, dip, dip, dip, dip Cardi, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Watch your tic, tic, tic, tic, tic Waiting for that last minute For your goddamn head on Now stop playing games, girl And break your ass down the stairs And that's why you can't

And that's why you can't hate him It little bit And that's why you can't hate him It's tough hating somebody that do that I hate who he is though, but god damn that nigga's tough Now turn that up, that's it Time that you wasting my time Time that you wasting my time Took me twenty to get ready, yeah Shower, moisturizer and the fit I had on yesterday Uniform necessities, multiples of everything Now your neighbor wanna come and speak to me like Hey, how you doing? I ain't too bad I'm really good, so yeah

What if you fake laugh, she walk in my ear Oh, it's sympathy I lack I care about one thing I'm not trying to be bad I'm not trying to be bad I'm not trying to be bad I'm not trying to be bad I'm not trying to be bad I'm not trying to be bad I'm not trying to be bad I'm not trying to be bad I'm not trying to be bad I'm not trying to be bad

I'm not trying to be bad I'm not trying to be bad I'm not trying to be, I'm rude, no bit Don't be acting so power, all that girl, let it shit Put so much into tonight, and you just don't care Now stop playing games, gun, bring your ass downstairs Come on girl, let's go Come on girl, let's go

Girl, you know that time that you wasted like time that you wasted like time that you wasted on my time No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Playing games, girl Bring your ass downstairs And we all can relate. That was phenomenal. Getting tired of waiting and saying, come on, let's fucking go. Yeah. It must be a mistake with YouTube or something. What? The numbers must be wrong. Oh, it's probably the wrong... It's probably fan page shit. Because that right there, I still hate that nigga.

He better stop adding me. Nah, I want to see the ads now, though. Nah, he's a fucking... Yeah, that's more like... That nigga's so sick. He's dope. He's like a genius, but it's a fucking weirdo. Yeah, that's more like it. That nigga's so sick. He's dope. He's like a genius, but he's a fucking weirdo, nigga. Leave me alone, yo.

He's a weird ass. Honestly, yo. Nah, I want to see the ads. Honestly. I got five ads. I'm going to search your ads. I don't like you niggas. I don't speak to y'all.

I don't fuck with y'all as a conglomerate. It's nothing. Leave me alone, yo. Nah. Just do what you're doing. Tyler, whatever you're doing, keep doing it. Yeah, keep doing it. I'm going to go retweet a couple of them

nah honestly y'all support him bothering me why wouldn't I absolutely how he's bothering you what type of way why would I answer you if you've already told me you support him I don't understand people you just told me you support him bothering me

if he's being mean then what is he saying see niggas don't look at it as mean cause it's me you support him bothering me. If he's being mean, then, you know. He is being mean. Oh. What is he saying? See, niggas don't look at it as mean because it's me, yo. No, because it's Tyler. That's mean. But I get it. They think I was being mean

with whatever I said about Earl because the blogs and all the fucking Oh, that's what he's asking you about? They snatched it. So, any chance they get, I think it was the

one-year anniversary of their show or something, two-year anniversary, something like that. They put the picture up of earl that is me at joe button there i go on my dms looking for women it's him talking about yo nigga mentioned you it's tyler yo we're not friends nigga don't mention me i don't want to be friends i could think you dope from far stop at me me, nigga. Hate these weird niggas. Yo, there's some new Stove God out.

This is Superior Featured Stove God. This is the first time in a while. Ah, 10 nigga fans. First time in a while. Ah, how long is this? Two weeks. Look at that.

Honey bricks in my mama crib. I had my young boy come shoot where your mama live He ain't got no kind of sense I had a hundred bricks in my mama crib Hundred bricks in my mama crib My young boy come through spraying out his mama whip 2007 Bonneville I had a hundred bricks in my momma crib Bought a delightful water stove, I think that made me God

I put a brick behind the vent, don't turn the AC on Whip it with the avion The scale should say 999, but if it way beyond Fuck it, either way we on 80,000 on the dresser with the AP I had a dream that I was broke and now I can't sleep I had a dream they kicked the door, they came to raid me I can't go, the plug about to throw me a 80

I came from big coke shit, ghost shit Now the writing in the sky so fucking serious, God quote shit My nigga bailed out and didn't ghost shit But ain't no love on the run, Billy Ocean We was buying raw, now we buying them all My young boy catch you shopping, you die in the store All cause you was dying to saw You got a land before your time, now you dinosaur

Honey bricks in my mama crib I had my young boy come shoot where your mama live He ain't got no kind of sense I had a hundred bricks in my mama crib 100 bricks in my mama crib my young boy come through spraying out his mama whip 2007 Bonneville I had a hundred bricks in my mama crib Bitch my phone was lit, this that holy shit Came here on a ship, now we got ownership All my masters mine, we on rap and white

In the spot, throw the rollie to me, we just passing time Dirty chop samples with the top down Pyrex pot handles, boy I bring it back like Doc Brown He dumping that boy Mack so big it break your block We come in that car that we ain't gon' make us hot We dump the cash out on the desk and spare it off the lot We on lease, we buy the whole car Nah

Yanks is moving silence, baby all my diamonds ultraviolet I was back in coach, now I'm the fucking pilot I'm God, that's what I said, what I gotta wake the dead Have you paying drought prices when I dry the land And send a plague of shooters for your head Playing reasonable drought over the tap phone for the feds Honey bricks in my mama crib I had a honey, I had my young one

That's 161, Superior featuring Stove God Cook's Happy Two Year Anniversary to Reasonable Drought. That's funny. We are addressing this on Patreon. We can.

We can. It's what you got for us, man. Let me just remind Parks what boom bap used to sound like, though. That's that boom bap

that I just played. No, that wasn't. That was ice. Okay, y' I just played No that wasn't That was Ice Okay y'all Gonna have to teach me That was Ice Bop Y'all could I will happily I will happily

Explore the nuance With you I need to know Why that wasn't Boom Bap That wasn't Boom Bap Son There's just

No boom and bap To it It's not boom bap See that's not true That's not true Oh we can have fun On Patreon Yeah

That's not true Yeah we can I disagree with fun on Patreon. Yeah. That's not true. Yeah, we can. I disagree with that. We'll explore the nuance. We'll explore the nuance. I get exactly what Parker's saying. Well, because what he's saying is from a technical standpoint. Yes.

And he's right technically. I'm not speaking technically. If there's no boom bap, we can't argue with him. There's no boom bap in it. When I say boom bap. But that's boom bap. Nah, this is what y'all blanket. Is what you're going to call that boom bap in it. But that's boom bap. Nah, this is what y'all blanket. What you gonna call that boom bap?

Benny and him. Yes. Sometimes there are. All of it. Every last second of it. Tyler's last album, boom bap. Boom bap is more broad than y'all boom bap niggas make it out to be.

Because y'all are going by a technical definition of boom bap. No, you're just pigeonholing something that's, like, low sample base. Sample base, basically. Sample based as boom bap. No, that's not true. Not true. Not true. There's samples.

That's not true. That's not that sound. There's samples and mad shit that's not boom bap. When we say boom bap, no, I don't know the technical way to describe it. A.I.K., can we talk about this on Patreon? Go ahead, yo. What you got for us, H. The lady's name is Mahalia.

The song is The Lady You Call Mahalia. Wow. That's her name. Wow. Young lady named Mahalia. That's Mahalia, yo. The song is whatever Simon says. You don't know, but that's Mahalia.

She should have a few slaps on your phone, but go ahead. I've never been the kind of girl to welcome your interest. I heard that you like a little black dress, so I wear red. I've never been the kind of bitch to have a leather bitch get in my head. So you should just say less. Never done what Simon says. Wear your makeup, make it look casual Wear your hair straight, actually natural

That don't make no sense, honey I don't need saving, I am not a See, see, you done fucked that sleeper up, see? See? But if your opinions are too much to handle Whatever, whatever, I'm I gonna do with you? If you like the girl that does what she's supposed to do And I don't

Whatever, whatever am I gonna do with you? I'm not that kind of girl If you like her, could you like me too? Whatever, whatever am I gonna do? Whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever Whatever, whatever, I'll do what I do Whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever Whatever, whatever, I'll do what I do Take one, two step in my shoes You see that I can't let you do what you tryna do to me I've given up control before

It left me in pieces But when I try to talk to you about it All I ever hear you say is You can cry but can't you smile I know you wanna talk but not right now That don't make no sense, no I don't need a sticker, I am not fragile But if your opinions are too much to handle

Whatever, whatever am I gonna do with you? If you like a girl that does what she's supposed to do And I don't Whatever, whatever am I gonna do with you? I'm not that kind of girl If you like her, could you like me too? Whatever, whatever am I gonna do? Whatever, whatever, am I gonna do?

Whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever Whatever, whatever, I'll do what I do Whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever How did I pay to love you? Cost me pennies on pennies, pounds on pounds When I didn't really want you Turned my heart and my pockets inside out If you didn't know I was your sponsor, you know now I was never gonna fit into your mold

I was never gonna do as I was told I was never Guess I was never gonna give you what you want I was never gonna act a certain way And if you try make me, I'd never stay I'd never stay, so Whatever, whatever am I gonna do with you? If you like a girl that does what she's supposed to do And I don't Whatever, whatever am I gonna do with you? I'm not that kind of girl If you like her, could you like me too?

Whatever, whatever am I gonna do? Whatever, whatever. Whatever, whatever. Whatever, whatever. I'll do what I do. Whatever, whatever. Whatever, whatever. Whatever, whatever.

I'll do what I do That's Whatever Simon Says by Mahalia. And she was putting serums on the video and brushing her teeth. That was an interesting cinematic choice. This guy, man. I like the song. Drums, please! It's Will Smith Day.

Yo, man. Stay safe. Nigga's smacking his back. No, Omar cleared it up. It's slapping. Yeah, that was a slap. Slapping. Slapping a slap. Slapping. Slapping is back.

Slapping is way... I never really put that in perspective, but slapping is... That changes everything. You niggas keep your opinions in your pocket. What's the difference between a smack and a slap? Omar said one hand was all fingers.

Yeah. A smack is palm. Don't try to fix it. That's one of the greatest little ad-libs. Don't try to fix it. Don't do that, yo. As somebody that's just brought the random girl in to say a line in a song and she always fucked it up, like, that's important.

It takes a while to get that line. Mad long to get that line. I used to hate that that was like one of my main rules as an engineer do not bring the girl that you're fucking

to fucking do the ad lib it's never gonna work it's never gonna work hate her hate her yes Parks I wanna bring the girl

I'm fucking in the booth she wants to come to the studio she can sing no she can't, she can't. And she can't get the right system.

We'll turn a role player into a superstar. What loser said that? Yo, keep us in your prayers, man. Honestly, if you listen to this pod, you know I gotta be

in your prayers, yo. Yo, please pray for me. Hey. Guys out hunting. Oh, yeah, Will. Don't let us do a review the lyrics segment. Guys out hunting is what you call it. Chill, man.

All right, man. Until the next time, be careful, be aware, man. Alright, man. Till the next time. Be careful, be aware, be alert, be present in all that you do. Life is a series of moments and moments pass so let's make this one last as if it's all that we have. See you next time. Peace. Adios.

Arriba Durchi. Hasta la vista. Sayonara. Au revoir. So long. Goodbye. And lastly, Cerebro Dirty, Hasta La Vista, Sayonara, Au Revoir, So Long, Goodbye, Ayy. And lastly. Well, he went to the mall to get a short set before a game of full. Before the full. And a new pair of sneakers.

Oh, my God. Well, buddy. You know what? Maybe the wall's fake. Oh my god, Will, buddy. You know what? Maybe the wall's fake. Lastly, the baddies are insecure.

The stagnant women want to travel. And the closed-minded women want you to teach them things. Grab an Advil. Enjoy your headache. We'll be back sometime. Same place. Shout out to Vy. Hey!

6 o'clock rolls around You just finished wiping your car down Rest in peace, rest in peace, rest in peace, Park Sparks Oh shit, my bad Wait up, hey! It ain't over till it's over, goddamn it, it's seconds on the clock Taylor Hawkins, drummer from the Foo Fighters, rest in peace There we go, rest in peace

We'll get details soon Thoughts, prayers, condolences To his family And shout out to Will man We love you I think I speak for enough of us We all love you Will We love Chris too

We love the family Chris we love you as well man hey Jim Chris don't really appear to need therapy like will but love everybody love for all hey thank you to the feds One a minute Summer, summer, summertime I just sit back and don't mind I don't need your help, I just wanna die I don't want to die No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,