The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 528 | "Together We Bargain"

Episode Date: April 20, 2022

Kendrick Lamar announces a new album, which Joe and the guys react to (21:00). The crew also discuss Pusha T's upcoming album (35:10), a Coachella recap (57:35), and the current state of Hip Hop (1:22:25 ). Lastly, the guys cover the NBA Playoffs (2:14:45) and MORE!     Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks Joe | Lucky Daye - “Fuckin’ Sound” Ice | Arsonal Da Rebel - “Pressure” Parks | DJ Kay Slay - “Cold Summer” (Ft. Kendrick Lamar, Mac Miller & Kevin Gates) Ish | Skylar Stecker - “What’s Good” (Ft. Tone Stith)

I thought we were going to Oh I didn't even know you was live You know me before right You You him Come on man You him You right

That's my bad I should have just known You probably been live for about 10 minutes Nah You just Sneak under there and hit the button. Just at the right time. What you was doing last night, yo?

Y'all all looked like you had a little bit of fun last night, to be honest with you. No, I went to bed. Oh, that's not true. We went to an R&B party first. Went to a little R&B party. You was DJing? Shook my ass. You was DJing?

No. They don't DJing? No. They don't respect you? No, Webstar had a little R&B party in Harlem. Ran over there. Yeah, it was pretty good. That's the one you was talking about, I think, right? Yeah, had some good deep fried catfish. Took my ass home.

Tucked in my 11. That's what I like. Ready for a nice, busy work day the next day. I love that get home early shit. Oh, me too. Yeah, I was out there and we was gone. Yeah, it was a good time. Started at 7, right?

7 to 8? Yeah, you said he was coming. I didn't say that. I didn't see. He was having fun on his own. Didn't. What'd you do? What'd you do?

None. None at all. Went to the dentist, nigga. At 7? Wait. My dentist appointment was at 5 o'clock. I left there, took my ass home. That candy is costing you much.

You can just leave the candy alone, bro. You only got to go back to the dentist. Like, sugar is a motherfucker, boy. All I'm going to tell you is this. If you keep using the dentist line At some point Your tooth gotta get fixed You can't keep using that line

It ran into dentists around Nine o'clock last night Came on back home What's up What's up What's up How we feeling How we feeling Alright Let me fucking get some Look alive Come on What y'all got? What's up? What's up? What's up? How we feeling? How we feeling?

Alright Let me fucking get some Look alive I'm in a great mood today man Me too Good I'm glad Don't worry I'm gonna need to get my

Energy from y'all Y'all go ahead and sleep Nah I'm up What you talking about? Y'all go ahead and sleep I'll set the vibe out here Let's get it Big stepper

Yo your manager know you're tired On the job I'll set the vibe out here. Let's get it. Big stepper. Yo, your manager know you're tired. They don't want to jump. Who said I'm tired? I'm going to make a call. Oh. Yes. Nigga, I get it. Holy shit. Mic check, mic check. One, two, one, two. Yes! This nigga aggy, yo

Holy shit Mic check, mic check, one two, one two Hope everybody's feeling good, feeling great Shout out to wherever you might be listening from Apple, Spotify, YouTube, SoundCloud Bitch don't kill my vibe, bitch don't kill my vibe Bitch don't kill my vibe, bitch don't kill my vibe On the left side of my soul, then you can find gold and make me get rich Hold up, Trinidad James in four weeks, but then my album platinum and shit So what, y'all keep the numbers I'm more than another statistic, my nigga, this courtesy of Compton

Brooklyn, go hard, motherfucker Love me on the east like I'm Chuck D Dominica, switch that, I was born there I'm looking to be the god in the sea You nigga my hat can see thorns there I look at the game and see thorns there I'm fucking this initially hard I'm making this money T-Bag to your honey You thought I was fresh off the yard Don't write to me tell me you're lightweight They tell me you're nice and I'm lightweight I gotta get them again

Yes you do Don't give that shit to my family They ain't really my family Thirsty nigga never alert me nigga I got a B89 in a suitcase Yes you do Those are the best shits I ever did really Hey, everybody, run and hide. The boogeyman is coming. Yo, all you niggas been talking like y'all was really boogeyman on these Twitter streets. I seen y'all niggas. All you best rapper live niggas, I seen them all.

Niggas is hiding under cars The boogeyman is coming Oh no, Omar from the Y Holy shit, yo Yo, he said he's drop, he's drop, oh I wish I knew the little whistle too, man I started doing it Oh man

It's time There you go Y'all know what time it is. Vibe with him. I feel like a chip on my shoulders. I feel like I'm losing my focus. I feel like I'm losing my patience. I feel like my thoughts in the basement.

I feel like you're miseducated. I feel like I don't want to be bothered. I feel like you may be the problem. I feel like it ain't no tomorrow. Fuck the world. The world is ending. I'm done pretending. And fuck you if you get offended.

I feel like friends been overrated I feel like the family been faking, I feel like the feelings are changing Feel like my daughter compromised and jaded Feel like you wanna screw, and that's how I made it Feel like I ain't feeling you all, feel like removing myself No feelings involved, I feel for you, I've been in the field for you It's real for you, right, shit, I feel like Ain't nobody praying for me

Prayin' you can trust Ain't nobody prayin' for me Prayin' you can trust Ain't nobody prayin' for me Ain't nobody prayin' for me Ain't nobody prayin' for me Ain't nobody prayin' for me Ain't nobody prayin' for me Ain't nobody prayin' for me I hear you all the way from over here, Ice

I hear you all the way from over here Yes, I hear you If you've never seen this live, you don't know Word I hear you from the way from over here. Yes, I am. If you've never seen this live, you don't know. Word. I hear from all the way over here. Uh, Martin had a dream. Ooh well. Martin had a dream.

Ooh well. Kendrick have a dream. All my life I won money and power respect my mind or die from last shower I break my dick get big as the apple tower so I can fuck the world for 72 hours Goddamn I feel amazing damn I'm in the matrix my mind is never gonna lie And this night I never forget you, I got the ass already in frozen Nah we getting you fake Kendrick fans out of here peace nigga don't know, I don't know how to do it. Don't know, you can't. Nah, we're getting you fake Kendrick fans out of here. Peace, nigga.

Then don't nod your head. Don't nod your head then, nigga. Don't nod your head. Still Kendrick on word. He heard that shit you said. Listen, it's no shame in hiding under the car when this guy comes out. That's him. There's nothing wrong with it.

Nobody should feel a way. There's nothing to be. No, you good. It's a smart decision to do that. But we ain't going to act like that ain't what's going to... You know what I mean? This nigga's different. Yes, sir.

This guy's different. Yes, sir. A little different. We might have just had him fucked up because he was quiet and dormant. Sometimes you should let sleep in those locks. Every time I'm on the street, I hear you YAK YAK YAK Man down, where you from, nigga? Fuck who you know, where you from, my nigga? Where your grandma stayed, my nigga? Listen, this mad city, I run, my nigga

Brace yourself, I take you on a trip down memory lane This is not a rap or I'm slinking crack or moon cocaine This is Koda second, plenty cognac and major pain Not the drill, Sergeant, put the stress that way in on your brain Hit with me, L-Buggy, and YG Lucky Ride down Rosecrans, it got ugly Waving your hand out the window, check yourself Uh, warriors and coldness, hope euphoria can slow dance with society

The driver, seek the first one to get killed Seen a light-sk skin nigga with his brains blown out At the same place and we're doing same gout now This is not a tape recorder saying that he did it but ever since the day I was looking at a different That was back when I was nine Stand on every porch is fine. We adapted With the sliding door Fuck it's up Fuck you shooting for

If you ain't walking up You fucking punk Shoot Yeah, yeah You have to cut it There's no real ability You can't stop that You just have to just cut it

I just played some claps I'm ready to start Breaking some shit For real Yo, man Wow Wow No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Yo, man. Wow. Wow. Microphone check. One, two. What is this? The J.B.P. boys. This is 529 or 8? 8. Welcome to episode 528 of the Joe Budden Podcast.

I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host Joe Budden here with a few of my nearest and dearest. Parks is here. Ish is here. Ice is here. Crusoe's here. Corey is here. Young boys in the back, how y'all feeling? Yeah.

All right, great, great. How's everyone feeling? How y'all doing? Told you I'm in a great mood today, man. Me too, yeah. Had a nice weekend, man. Every now and then you just have them good days that just carry you over. So I'm in a good mood.

Ready to get to some pot. Oh, shit, you ready to get to some pot? Ready to get to some pot, man. All right, I'm that man. How about you? How you doing? Oh, me? Yeah.

Couldn't be better. Busy weekend? Wonderful. No, I wouldn't say busy. I do too much. Low key. Ran around for a little bit Rested up a lot

Oh yeah He was at strip club early He did brunch at the strippy When when when What was that Saturday? Saturday What did I do Saturday I don't remember

He was posting videos From the strip club early Oh no That's the mirage That's the mirage I'm not actually in there At 2pm I was worried about you

Bro You ain't never been To strip club at 2pm though When you could When it was cool To go to the strip club At 2pm I just want to make sure

We wasn't doing that For the truck driver Lunch special When the lunch girls They wasn't the same girls Working at night Yeah That's long ago

I was just making sure We wasn't shitting on that That's long ago Yeah I know But I'm going to start Pointing it out You niggas like to bring up 31-year-old Joe

to 42-year-old Joe, so nah. I wouldn't judge you. I wasn't judging. I wasn't judging. I was just saying we're not going to shit on it. Like, niggas ain't did that.

No, I wouldn't shit on it. Okay. Yeah, I went to a little 420 party this weekend. That was pretty dope. 420? Well, it was a 416 party, 417 party, 450, whatever it was. Smokers don't care. They're going, he's doing smoke well it was a 416 party 417 party

450 whatever it was smokers don't care they're going it was a little bar they had a little DJ you know what I mean some edibles for sale

in the basement or you know I don't know what the term is you know what I mean donation whatever it was you know what I mean I don't want to step on

no one's shit but it was a lot of fun man I'm loving the decriminalization of weed in New York. Jersey too. I think it's the 21st, if I'm not mistaken.

You could just walk in and buy weed now. It's like cigarettes. That's ill. No need for a medical card, nothing. They were saying how off-duty cops could get high now. Oh, wow. Yeah. Wow.

Yeah, in New York, I don't think they legally are allowed to sell at stores but they're not doing nothing about it like there's several bodegas that I'm aware of that you can go buy weed from like

who wants to tell them that the off duty cops were doing it already yeah been doing it nobody wants to tell them chill niggas like

yo chill but that is great yeah it's great free everybody that's in jail for any weed related crimes yeah that's the important part Like y'all doing all of this I need to go fix that shit too

ASAP Happy 420 You niggas is out there Zooted Facts Niggas is blown out there Right now Woke right up

And got to it I ain't mad at him Why is it Like I've never known I don't know I think it has something to do With like the

Chemical number Of THC Or something like that I could be wrong about that I was't know. I think it has something to do with the chemical number of THC or something like that. I could be wrong about that. Oh, okay. I always was curious about that. I think it's like THC-420 is the scientific name for it or something like that. Got it. I could be wrong. The funny part is going to be really just walking down the street now smelling weed all the time.

Let me tell you, all the time. It's been decriminalized. That's been regular. smelling weed all the time. Let me tell you, like all the time. It's been decriminalized. So look,

that's been regular. The last time my brother was up here, we was in Edison and it was some old, I'm talking about, they was like in they 60s, walked by, he like, yo,

what the fuck? I said, yeah, that's how it is now. He said, dog, you telling me that people just walking by blowing,

walking down the street? Yeah. Yeah. That's been like a year or two. I remember the first day we was outside smoking bongs and fucking all types of shit on the street. They can't do shit. Right by the street. Yeah. Yeah. That's been like a year or two. I remember the first day we was outside smoking bongs and fucking all types of shit on the street.

They can't do shit. Right by the cops. It's decriminalized. As long as you don't got, I think you can hold up to like an ounce on you or something like that. I need to see you do it

before I try. Nah, nah, nah. I need to see somebody that look like me do it. Nah, nah, nah. Not Parks. Reasonable. Yeah, yeah.

Nah, I'm chilling. I'm straight. Also, we are in LA. May'm straight also we are in la may 28th we are in dallas june 17th we are in houston june 18th uh i want to apologize to anyone whom we may have inconvenienced with that news changing but shit was happening in real time i'm sorry hope to see you there um what else do we have jo JoeBuddenPodcastTour.com is the place to get tickets. I don't think we should

discuss anything else without saying rest in peace to DJ K Slay. Received the unfortunate news of his untimely passing at the age of 55 from COVID complications.

And that's all we've heard about that. Legend, man. Legend. There's very few people that have been around as long as he has, doing it at the level that he has, from being a writer, graph writer and stuff in the 80s, to transitioning to a DJ, radio personality uh magazine owner like he's done it all he's done it all he's literally done it all recording artists obviously mixtape

giant huge loss i already just was a good dude that's who he looked like no they said here look out they said a lot of niggas in the industry don't be really trying to help you. They said this nigga sincerely help you. Don't want no accolades, no praise, no nothing. Yeah. He gave a lot of people a platform to go up and get their shit off for decades. That's a huge loss, man. Yeah, it is. Huge loss and felt all over hip hop, but especially here in New York.

Yeah. I know a lot of our hearts were heavy. A lot of people, a lot of people, Slay fucked with a lot of people, man. He did. She just put 90 people on the record, right? Right.

Not one 10. Yeah, he fucked with a lot of people. From all over the spectrum, too. Superstars all the way down to people getting their first shot at doing a radio freestyle or something like that. Or tape freestyle. It didn't really matter. If your shit was dope, he would give you a shot. Had the women with straight stunt in the magazine.

Jumped in that. Had them getting bags on the little tours and on the boat rides, all that shit. Oh, I forgot about the boat ride. Yeah. It was dope. And I mean, I'm familiar with Slay from his mixtape Dominance. The Slay vs. Clue shit from back in the day. I still got them skits.

You have any classic freestyles up there? At Slay? No. I went to Slay probably once. Okay. What's it called? That's the first time I heard it. On Drama Kings when you was like

I don't want no drama. Well maybe I want a little bit of drama. And that was the first time I ever heard the Pump It Up remix. That's the first time I ever heard it. Slay's that dude, man. Yeah, he is. This is a major loss right here. Truly, man.

Seen all the old pictures, old clips from Style Wars and all that stuff. Yeah, I was seeing like the graffiti. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know he used to be a graffiti artist. I didn't know that either. That's New York.

Devastating loss, man. Yeah, we lost one with this one here. This is... Slay was at the top, man. He really was for years. And I hate when hip-hop always scares the shit out of top, man. He really was, for years. And I hate when hip-hop always scares the shit out of you, right? Hip-hop will come together and say, hey, keep this person in our prayers.

Like the people that are close to this person. Like a few months ago, they were saying, yo, pray for Slay. And we prayed for Slay, and then Slay was cool. And then that was the end of it. But I don't never be feeling like it's the end of it. Like when that happens, now I'm just scared for people. No, they was giving like... They didn't really...

I don't even know that he was cool. We never got nothing really after that. They said he started feeling a little better, but then they said that it was still touch and go. You said it. They said that he was off the machines for at least a little bit and you know pardon me if i'm getting that wrong i don't mean any disrespect to him his family obviously um but yeah i guess you know this is a difficult story for me to even report on because it's so close to home like it's slave it's like you know like slave went up there

and took pap and got the... I was outside. I had to deal with that rumor. Went through through all. Pap got such and such million. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. That was running through the streets heavy. Oh, brother.

Niggas had to deal with shit like that. Didn't Slay... Slay's just cool, man. But that's what I was trying to say earlier before Isshin interrupted me. Fucking Slay so fly He had Whatever he had

With Clue and Steel That never He never showed me Treated me no different Treated None of the Desert Storm Niggas different It's just a good dude man

Hip hop to the core Just a good good dude Huge Huge loss Always fly Yeah Always Always held it down for the jail niggas kept kept them uh first and foremost oh man k slay whose real name was keep racing was a dj i know way more than that yeah i hate when they do that yeah yeah i hate

when they hey don't never pull up c CNN for my hip-hop losses. Sure. I don't give a fuck what you're saying. Don't pull up CNN for my hip-hop losses. What the fuck did they just call him? I hate when they do that. I just don't like when they do that. Is that a me thing? These publications just get the same shit all over. Adam Schefter just now.

Yo, if you don't know, then shut the fuck up. Same thing with the Grammys and Virgins. Just shut the fuck up. Yeah, you don't know, then shut the fuck up. Same thing with the Grammys and Virgins. Just shut the fuck up. Yeah, you don't got to minimize it. K. Slay, we love you. Thoughts, prayers, condolences. Is this a family statement? Do you want to read it?

Yeah, I do. Excuse me. Our hearts are broken by the passing of Keith Grayson, professionally known as DJ K. Slay. A dominant figure in hip-hop culture with millions of fans worldwide, DJ K Slay will be remembered for his passion and excellence with a legacy that will transcend generations. In memory of DJ K Slay, our family wishes to thank all of his friends,

fans, and supporters for their prayers and well wishes during this difficult time. We ask that you respect our privacy as we grieve this tragic loss, the Grayson family. Yeah. And that I will do. Yeah. Yeah.

Rest in peace, man. Damn. It's not enough. You can say, yeah, rest in peace. Not with a loss.

This major man. This, this one is, uh, there's so few people That have been around Since 82 83

In the public light Like he was And still kept their hands In everything Right Today Like yo You don't even look at them

Like they're that old Right That's how funny it is Not that old I'm just saying But for hip hop Like 55 years old You don't think they're that old

That they they been around Since the 80s Some niggas was born in the 80s That's in hip hop In the 90s now Yeah True 2000s

Fuck Slay we love you Thank you Thank you for your service Your contribution Your dedication And all that you gave All right.

Where y'all want to go? Boogeyman? The Boogeyman, yo. He's coming. You can hear it. Yeah, we can start with the Boogeyman. And that's just me being a dick. Like, I don't want to come out and just be a dick.

We've been saying it all year that summertime niggas are going to get to it and here we are to get into it. It's not just about the boogeyman, but that's a big one that we kind of felt was coming. Pause.

That was a lot. But Kendrick announced his date from PG Lang. The following statement was released today by Oklahoma through his company, PG Lang. Come on, get to it. Get to it. Album, Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers.

Release date, May 13th, 2022. All factual information for this release will come directly from this source only. will come directly from this source only. I am so fucking jealous of how he's able to do that. Yeah. Transition to his own brand. In his own way. Just quietly. That part.

Quietly. Yeah. Ain't said a peep for years. He had his one little statement he put out. On the same website. Remember the statement he put out? Yep. Yo, I've been without a phone.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, that little cryptic note he put out back when niggas was saying they was the best rapper alive. I prayed for you all. Which is what he said then. I prayed for y'all niggas. He did say he prayed for everybody. Uh-oh. Oh, here it is. Let me read it again. I spend most y'all. He did say he prayed for everybody. Uh-oh.

Oh, here it is. Let me read it again. I spend most of my days with fleeting... All right. I'm not reading this again, yo. With fleeting thoughts, writing, listening, and collecting old beach cruisers. The morning rides keep me in a hill of silence.

He's the hillest. I go mumps without a phone. Love, loss and grief have disturbed my comfort zone but the glimmers of God speak through my music and family

while the world around me evolves I reflect on what matters the most the life in which my words will land next as I produce my final TDE album, I feel joy to have been a part of such a cultural impact for 17 years, the struggles, the success, and most importantly, the brotherhood. May the Most High continue to use Top Dog as a vessel for candid creators

as I continue to pursue my life's calling. There's beauty in completion and always faith in the unknown. Thank you for keeping me in your thoughts. I've prayed for you all. See you soon enough. That was August. Yo, what did we do, man? We're in trouble. Yo, what do you want?

Do you want better? Oh my God. He's dropping on Friday the 13th. Oh, shit. Now you peep it. Yo, why your face Look like that That's scary out here I don't think that's By chance Yeah it might not be

So What do you gentlemen Have to say about this Before I just jump in Being silly I'm fucking excited Yeah That's what I like

I think as a music lover You're excited And part of why You're excited is Shooting percentage That's what I like. I think as a music lover, you're excited and part of why you're excited is shooting percentage. Part of why I'm jealous. You have no idea what he's talking about.

And the shooting percentage is high. We don't know what he's talking about. We don't know what mood he's in. We don't know how he's on.

We don't know nothing. I can't even tell nothing about an Eiffel Tower. a song. And usually, sometimes when that happens, right, like,

you might be a little worried they're taking it too far left or whatever but when he's taking it left he's gotten fucking Nobel Peace Prizes Pulitzer

Pulitzer whatever it was yeah whatever the fuck it was but yeah you know what I'm saying like does he have a left what like I'm saying

when you say he takes it left like he's so that's a Pimple Butterfly shit had all types of saxophones but that's what I'm saying like he don't really have a I get what you're saying like there's so that's a Pimple Butterfly shit all types of saxophones but that's what I'm saying like he don't really have a center I get what you're saying

like there's no there's no center yeah he could just really give you whatever he feels artistically he could just throw it out there yeah

he don't really have a left you might be right and he shoots high no no he don't miss facts I mean I wasn't a fan of Pimple Butterfly but I get it I love that album I particularly didn't like it he got killed miss facts I mean I wasn't a fan of the Pippa Butterfly

but I get it I love that album I particularly didn't like it he got killed for that album but I understand too yes I'm saying I get it I can't even say I understand this nigga's on his own frequency

he's on his own wave I'm excited I'm sure y'all excited there's nothing really to say about it other than I'm excited and what do we think of the album title and what that may mean i hate you fans to do that i hate fans to try to pull something from a track list or an album title but sometimes it's appropriate yeah i was gonna say

when it's him especially like fam i they go crazy when mr morale in my brain he that means one or of two people which is either himself i say nah or y'all niggas i say yeah i think mr morale is y'all niggas all of them y'all dumb whoever this is about to apply to, it's dumb. And the rest of them were the hot steppers? Because I thought he was dope enough to be able to. He's dope enough to do some. I've been on some. Morrow Hein.

He might just play with himself and another vision the whole time and do some dope metaphor shit. Yeah. That would be genius and artistic. Man, I don't think he'd do that. I think it's y'all niggas. And now that I read that note again, I double down on it. I would be mad looking at y'all niggas too, yo.

Y'all niggas look like, y'all look horrible. I do. Y'all niggas look bad. Which is why the consistent theme amongst all the great niggas, except for Cole in public because Cole behind closed doors

talks like this too. The consistent theme amongst the great niggas is the audacity of the rest of y'all for thinking that like we are down with y'all. Damn, y'all gonna make me

get off the beach cruiser, man? Yeah. I gotta look at the phone. You think Wayne wants to leave the skate rink? The fucking skateboard thingamajiggy? Yeah. The wedge?

No. The half pipe. Yeah, you don't want to leave that little Tony Hawk thing. He sound pissed. I told you from the letter. We ain't got to go over that again. He sound a little pissed off. And the big step.

Oh, fam. All you niggas think y'all are the big steppers. That's the part that. He talking to y'all. That's the part that gets me a little bit. He going to kill y'all. Y'all niggas been talking that big stepping shit for a couple years now. Oh, yeah.

You ain't stepping over shit. He might be talking to this new wave of the popular rappers. And it's so arrogant. Because he let Drake go. He waited for Drake. He waited for Cole. Waiting for Future. Whoever y'all.

Y'all go have your little year. Everybody go. And now I will say, this is bad. Let me stop dick riding, man. Let me stop dick. I still was going to come in here and bring it to Park's door, but I can't. I'm just happy. Yeah, me too.

I'm just happy. We wanted this. We've been waiting for this. I'm not going to come in here and stir some shit that might not really be there. I'm just really, really happy. You'll do it after the album drop. Facts. You'll be something in there, I'm sure.

I'm definitely going to come in here and find some shit that's not in there. You know what Joe thinks. I think that it's a few niggas that's number one until number one comes. And that's a constant juggling fight between only four niggas. Not even four, three.

We're not talking about, he's a legend. Yeah, it's a constant juggling act. So they just got to keep taking turns. They just got to keep taking turns. Park's going to be right for four months. I'm going to be right for four months. Yeah.

He's going to be right for four months. Like, you got to split the year. There's no way to fucking call this. But everybody's outside to play now. Everybody's at the same dog park. At the same time. You think we'll get the other two to chime in this year? Because I do.

Oh, I think one of them is on his way. I definitely think one is on his way. Sooner than most people think. I think the Canadian is coming very soon. Very soon. Canadian will be here before summer. And not for nothing, I think the J. Cole shit was a quote unquote mixtape. The one that came out last year.

So I wouldn't be shocked. I think I remember that being billed that way. Huh? Yeah, that's how I remember it being billed at the time. I could be completely wrong. They changed the definitions of albums and projects

every other week. I got to listen to that album under his discography. But you know they do that in... J. Cole is going to try and try out for the Hornets or some shit. Some wild shit.

I'm telling you. Stupid, yeah. You know he's you know he's a marketing genius he's gonna think of some fly shit to do I definitely think the Canadians

will be here before the summer well he ain't here now know who's here now the boogeyman god damn it I'm rolling listen I'm with you

the boogeyman is here I'm not even doing that whole comparing no he here round of applause we can't wait to hear from Kendrick. But it's not just about Kendrick.

Jack Harlow's dropping. He is. What date is that? I got to hear. Hold up. Hold up. It's a couple weeks before. It's push, then it's future, then it's Jack Harlow, then it's Kendrick. Yeah. May 6th is

the week before Is Jack Harlow Future 429 Push Friday So that's four weeks in a row That is a hell of a run That's a lot of heat I'm mad at it I know off camera

Y'all were asking me What was the whole joke On the Is officially retired thing Oh yeah yeah So what happened A page tweeted Kendrick Lamar is officially retired

They tweeted this back in February. His announcement of the album was replying to that tweet. So people looked at it like, oh, shit, if I say this person's retired, maybe I can get something from them too. So it started going that way. Okay. I was very confused. He replied to that tweet.

They said Joe's retired and he's retired. Yeah, I'm really retired. They're saying that. To quote unquote draw him out like they're saying like okay Kendrick Lamar is officially retired

tweet and he got an album and he replied to the tweet with the link with that press release and everything so it's like okay

we got Kendrick to come back off of this tweet let's see if we can get some of our other favorites to come back now I feel like a dick

for judging him that's all it is that was such a great little thing I'm about to retire a lot of people that a dick for judging them. That's all it is. That was such a great little thing. I'm about to retire a lot of people. Oh, that's what I was doing. I said, Fab is retired. Chris Brown is retired.

I'm running names. Got it. Drop. Yeah. When was the last time Fab dropped, yo? It's been a while. I understand chilling, but he is chilling. Ain't nobody going to say nothing.

I've been saying something. I said something to him there's a such thing as chilling I'm not gonna say what he said but he gave me a reason for his chilling and I understood it but

it's one thing to chill oh man getting all the money what else can what else do we have to say about these releases Jack Harlow Future

Future's on the cover of GQ they say he's the best rapper alive Elliot trolling us trolling us all excuse me Elliot Wilson wrote the article

round of applause for Elliot but the title of the article is Future is the best rapper alive I don't even want to clap that no I'm I'm clapping Elliot Wilson. It's a very well-written article. Phenomenal writer. Cover story of GQ is a big deal, man.

Best Rapper Alive. It's a lofty goal. A phrase Jay-Z famously uttered in 2003. Look, he getting in his writer bag already. I'm reading this shit, Elliot. I can tell when a great writer is just about to get deep in his bag. You made a very compelling point, man. But in 2022, who wears the crown?

At least now that Jay has graduated to full-on... Look at Elliot. Elliot, I'm going to stop reading your articles, buddy. Is it our perennial hitmaker Drake? All right, I'm done. I'm done. The brilliant Jay Cole. Stop it.

Stop with this great writing. No, Future's not the I'm done. I'm done. The brilliant J. Cole. Stop it. Stop with this great writing. No, Future's not the best rapper alive. I don't think he is either. I don't think Future thinks he's the best rapper alive. One of the more influential rappers. I don't even think Future thinks he's the best rapper alive. Like, come on, what are you doing? Yeah, I don't even think he's trying to be.

That's my point. But his thing, a few artists are as prolific, as widely imitated, as consistently excellent, which is why it's finally time to declare what's been true for... Elliot, yo, if you want GQ to let you write another article, just say that, nigga.

You are pouring it on. You put a lot of syrup on that pancake. You put a lot of syrup. How much syrup? I was about to say, that's one of them old That's one of them I was about to say That's one of them old nigga lines That I'd expect from you

I'm still out with y'all I'm still in that How much can he put on there He is Taste the cake Can't even taste the cake It's gonna be a little soggy Under this opinion

Oh lord Elliot We love you Holy shit I'm not dignifying this. It's a troll. He did that for us to argue about it. Yeah, but I'm not arguing that. Elliot, I'm not arguing over something from GQ.

Your source is not even getting me to argue. I don't give a fuck what GQ thinks about who the best rapper alive is. He wrote it, though. But he wrote it in GQ. Right. In one year of GQ. Elliot's going to kill me. It's $15.

Every time GQ come up and it's me and Elliot, he's going to kick my ass. Oh, man. I got here through music. This is just rollout shit. I can't wait to hear the future album. That's another one I can't wait to hear. Jack Harlow got one. Can't wait to hear from him.

I can't wait to hear from everybody. Push I'm excited about. wait to hear from him. I can't wait to hear from everybody. Push I'm excited about. Y'all know he's one of my favorite rappers. It was weird. I was walking outside the other day and I just heard someone

playing it in the car and like I say it sounds pretty good. Playing what? Push. Push. The new Push album. I listened to the whole album

a couple times. I'm going to keep it a buck. It's a good album. It's a really good album. It's a good album. I can really good album It's a good album I can't wait to Cause when I was in the car I didn't have control

Over the Like the playlist Right right right You know how that goes But there was a couple I wanna Okay well before you Privileged fans

Get to speaking Call my bluff I'm not talking anything about it Call my bluff is the one I'm not saying anything about it For me Call my bluff is the one Because it's not out yet

I'll let the fans I'm not I'm just saying it's a good album I'm not giving any review I know what'll turn This part up Shoot some jokes at Joe That's always the

Nah That's always the Fucking key to success Come on give it to me Ise You swear yo I'm outside I'm outside

Be outside I know you Ain't nothing wrong With being outside Joe Yo outside is so nice Sometimes Come on man It really is

It felt great being outside This weekend I'm not gonna lie Outside is relative Yeah where you be outside at Is where the questions Come into play Definitely relative

I love my Beautiful I love my face card When all the killers Is in the building I do yo I'm not bad When I'm outside

With me and just a few Lady friends And niggas got 50 killers with them I'm not bad when I'm outside with me and just a few lady friends and niggas got 50 killers with them I know 7 of them I like that bought me a little bottle the other night

I'm like oh man I thought I did it too I thought I did some shit he's having a blast you know the New York niggas no in New York it's nice you know the New York niggas no in New York it's nice man you know the New York niggas

I feel like in New York but that's my maybe my New York bias again like this I don't know like some of the street niggas in New York are just really wise

men yeah true I agree with that the older ones the older ones that's what I'm talking about the older ones I'm not talking about

the young niggas I'm never talking about them I'm never talking about them that's the ones you gotta watch for is the young niggas but Ice a lot of the older niggas. I'm never talking about them. I'm never talking about them. That's the ones you gotta watch for is the young niggas. But Ice, a lot of the older niggas is... But Ice, listen to this though.

Come on, let's have a nuanced conversation for a second. Okay. You right. Niggas be having guns, yo, so ain't nobody fighting. You right about that. But you know what older niggas got?

A brain. Got sense. Yeah. A brain. Eyes. Eyes. A brain. Eyes. You thinking and looking and seeing

and processing a little different. That's not to say nobody can get caught slipping because that happens to everybody. Every day. Old head niggas

just be having consequences. You know what happened? It was Big B's. Shout out to Big B's. Hey! It was B's. Hey, B's was in there

About 70 niggas in the back Oh That was the Beez man Oh shit I don't know how we got on that I just thought it was I just thought it was That's what I wanted to say

I just wanted to tell Ice That old niggas have brains So you can see I'm an old nigga I know when it's about to pop off Normally A good two hours Before it's about to pop off

Half an hour 45 minutes before Yo the niggas In the front of the strip club They laugh when I walk in about to pop off normally a good two hours before it's about to pop off 45 minutes before the niggas in the front of the strip club they laugh when i walk in they laugh when i walk in they be like quick one tonight right y'all know the vibes already dog i'm in and out of here i'll be gone before y'all crowd get here y'all crowd get here too i'm i'm in long gone in bed i had a rule i'm already home i'm not saying no bars past. My new old nigga rule, I never want to hit

the bed past 3 a.m. Never. Yeah, unless I'm home chilling maybe. It got to be a five-some. It has to be a five-some, six-some. Oh,

everybody fucking, orgy time. It got to be wild for me to have to stay up past 3 a.m. I'm honestly, how about y'all? Throw something in.

I'll stay up late, but I don't want to be outside past two oh yeah up and outside is different i'm not outside that late fuck that i'm in the house by two o'clock but some trouble that's right some legs that's right oh hey shit yo i mean um listen i'm not talking i'm not talking about this what else is important but you had the list oh shit wait no push push yeah you have to keep talking about this What else is important? But you had the list Oh shit Wait no Push Push Yeah Can't keep talking about The Boogeyman Not talking about Push

He's another Boogeyman He's another Boogeyman He is He is He is another Boogeyman That's what we were talking about We were I really like the album

From what I heard so far I've heard the entire album Ice and Parks have heard this album I've heard it quite a few times I have not heard it Even though Ice sent it have heard this album I've heard it quite a few times I have not heard it Even though Ice sent it to me Cause I like this I'm such a

I be loyal to my own self In the house I'm sitting there I'm gonna wait till Thursday night And buy it And the picture will pop up Oh no I still did the pre-save Because then I gotta go

And delete whatever I had And it's two of them Now it's a mess That's quick and easy I know I know Well you still You still gotta go And do something to my iPad too Oh yeah and it's two of them. Now it's a mess. That's quick and easy. I know. I know. Well, you still got to go and do something

to my iPad, too. Oh, yeah. That's hectic. Yo, the stupid... Yo, wait. Hello? Go ahead. She got my old shit memorized.

Hey, let me just tell y'all. Her face working that shit too. On February 19th. Whoever text me or sent me something provocative in the last 11 months, that shit is it. She spit that shit

like a freestyle. That shit remind me of the Ultimatum show. Shorty was like, you left your phone open. I went in your phone and then I airdropped all the shit to myself. I said, oh, shit. I don't know why women say that stuff so casually.

And we talking about that Ultimatum reunion. I got so many opinions about this Ultimatum reunion. I skipped it the last part, but we getting to it. All right. All right. I'm at the reunion. I finished the whole show, but I didn't get the reunion yet Alright so Pusha's album

Almost Dry Drops It's Almost Dry It's Almost Dry Drops this week Right? Correct Friday Give me the track list

He got niggas on there You got it Yeah I got it here It's not It's Ye's on a couple Cudi's on one That

He tweeted That would be the last time you ever see me in the ASL. Here we go. We got Kanye, Jay-Z, Pharrell, Kid Cudi, Kid Cudi, Don Toliver, Lil Uzi Vert. Uzi smacks these appearances on the low, quiet as

hell. Yeah, he does. When he pops up on somebody else's song, he goes crazy. Even on his shit, when Uzi want to go, he can go. And Malice and Labyrinth. That's the one. That's the one Ice is telling me is the one. That's the one.

That is the one. That one and Call My Bluff. I'm not trying to give a review because I know the album's not out yet. A lot of people didn't hear it. Call My Bluff gave me Hell Hat No Fury vibes in the best way possible.

Yeah, I was about to say in a great way. Yeah, well that's one. Push has also announced a Coke-chella album listening party at an undisclosed location in New York City. I think that's pretty fly.

Push always, like, I remember a while back, he was doing, like, his merch. I forget what project this was for. So he says, yo, send me your address. I'm saying so. I'm like, okay. I open the project this was for. So he says, yo, send me your address. I'm saying so. I'm like, okay.

I open the box. He had this shit wrapped like it was a brick. Like it was heavily saran wrapped up with the band on it. I said, this nigga really sent the t-shirt looking like a brick.

Lean into it, man. Yeah. That's funny. Pushing Vince Staples, those two never cease to amaze me with how they can get so much corporate backing for street shit

yeah it's branding that's it it's branding yeah it is branding also I've heard from the streets what streets talking about I've heard from the streets. What streets talking about? I've heard from the streets that Pusha and Steve and Victor will also be doing a virtual listening party for this project. For all of their fans who are unable to attend Coachella in person, they are hosting a live show on Amazon's new live radio app,

Amp. They will be playing the album in full. They're going to do some shit. Round of applause. Right back to the corporate funding. There you go. I like it. They'll be talking about the process of making the album.

They'll be taking live calls from the fans. And rumor has it, there also may be a very high-profile guest or two in attendance. They talking about you? Jay. Yeah, Jay. Jay. Yay.

I'm not. Don't do that, Parks. Oh, okay. Yo, you see what Parks just did? Jay? You are Jay. That's corny when, and this is not for me, because I type in Joe Budden when I want to search Joe Budden. But that's super corny when you search your name and 10 other of that person pop up before you even like I mentioned.

That's horrible. That's why these niggas spell their names and do all the crazy shit. Yeah. Black. They got to do that because I got to stare it out this way. Imagine you searching black. SEL. Yeah.

All right, so the Pusha show is going to be later this week, so people should get the app now and follow Pusha so they can get an alert when he goes live with the listening party. The app is still in beta, so you'll need to use the access code PUSHAT in caps. P-U-S-H-A-T in caps to get in.

I'm in there. Yeah, I'm in there. And Ice and I have been talking about that. Mm-hmm. Amp. Amazon. For a little while now

and some of the things that you can do on there. Oh, this is the DJ app, right? Yes. Well, it's kind of... I feel like that's how they marketed it. That's how they marketed it. That's how they marketed it.

I played around with it. It's more like you set your playlist. So how do you do at the radio station? You know what records are going to play, but you can still talk.

Yeah, but you can talk too. You can talk. It's not just music. So it's like a radio station. Literally. And it's whatever you want so it's like a radio station literally and it's whatever you want your radio station to be yeah

you can literally it's pretty cool I've just been clicking in on different people I have no idea who they are but the title of their show might get me or the artwork might get me

and it's cool it's cool to browse now as far as a virtual listening party I wouldn't be mad at going to a virtual listening party not at all listen

put it in the hockey for me. I'll be glad to go. I'm sorry? Yo, it's no sweat off my back. It's no sweat off my back to just press something on my phone and hear some unreleased music. I really enjoyed that Kanye Amazon experience where he was in the roller skating rink or whatever that was, the football field. I mean, that's just where we at with events, period. Like, not even listening sessions.

Caffeine and the battle rappers. I like Saturday at 4 o'clock that I'm sitting home watching the battles. I like that. Me too. I love it. Me too. Everything, though. Like, versus.

Convenient. We sit right there and can watch this from our phones. Versus trying to get me to your listening party during covid with your little rapper friends with your little label people with your little girl girls the group the groupies that you think is cute and i don't that's always bad that's always bad when a nigga tell you they in here and it'd be their version of in here their version of they yeah yes yeah what are you doing that moment you don't tell them, right? I do. See, that's what's up around me.

What you want to say to your dogs? I'm here. Where they at? You say it in a little joke. Yo, you used to have them. Yo, you used to. Yo, bring them out. What's going on?

Yo, you used to really. Them. Yo, you used to have them. You used to bring them out. Your little they now is different. Yeah, but going. Yeah, I'm going to the voice listening party. I'll be at this one. I'm going to this. This I might pop up too. I want to hear them out. Your little they now is different. Yeah, but going, I'm going to the Ways of Listening party.

I'll be at this one. I'm going to this. This I might pop up too. I want to hear that Clips record. You do. That's hard. You do.

I'm not going to ask you about this versus Daytona. Too early for that. Yeah. It's kind of different. This is a full length. Exactly. Thank God.

You know where I'll stay on Daytona anyway. Which I like, but it was... Yo, these guys are setting the bar high for anybody that wants to drop music in June and July. Facts. Mm-hmm.

That's a lot of heat to come out, come after. Yeah, we got a nice start to the summer. Coily Ray did 11,000 units or something like that. Congratulations. Y'all was on my ass when Fabio did 29,000. Something like that.

They won't get me with this stuff, yo. Every now and again, the music business learns something from how things are selling. And sometimes you're early on in that and sometimes you're late like the music business was so shocked when albums started dropping to 30 40 and 50 000 records sold but they had to adapt and and learn the new the new behavior of the the buying the buying fan the new thinking of the customer fan, the new thinking of the customer, the consumer, the music fan. They have to learn y'all when y'all change. So it's like,

that's them that went out and searched for everybody with a social media presence and gave them a record deal thinking that that would result in numbers. And the other part of that is they have to adapt to the fact that nobody's buying these albums anymore like now it's the streaming game and then it just comes down to

how many streams is a sale right so they just plan it's all to me i don't trust none of that shit when i see these numbers because let's whatever their number is how many streams equal a sale today they could change it tomorrow and then now your numbers are inflated through the roof or they're lower like i don't think if they want to fudge your numbers because they want it to look a certain way they can just go ahead and fudge your numbers yeah 30 000 for a first album from a new artist it's not bad that's not a bad first week in the streaming era it's not bad you don't have a hit a billboard chart topping-topping single. Right. Even the single you had, it didn't live long on the charts. You know the other trickery they play?

We're going to let this single run for two years. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Put it as track 21 on the album. Yeah, and then we're going to slap it at the bottom of the album to collect those streams and make it count towards the album. What's the problem? So what?

$29,000. I want the labels to start dropping or the artists i want somebody to start dropping i know it's gonna sound funny coming from me um i want them to start dropping the accounting with some of these projects what you mean the budget that was put into the project what'd you spend right what was spent here right because ice is right like y'all throw out these first week numbers and album sale numbers but i don't even think y'all really care about the album sale numbers today because y'all are eating from so many different so many different other places that maybe the artists don't know

about maybe the fan don't know about and to have the conversation means to delve further into what those different avenues are and if more people know about those avenues avenues maybe they're less inclined to sign a 360 maybe they're less inclined to take the money and when it's desperation involved maybe they'll hold it out if they know what some of these numbers equate to where they can go get it from why there's value there i know i'm just ranting i know they'll never do it but but these labels will fuck around and be like yeah part of your your deal is we get you on rolling loud stage and now the label's eating from that they don't care necessarily what you're selling first week like that that's that's the new stat bill uh number one first week that's all

anybody want to say they'll they'll drop their album in an off week where nothing else is moving just so we can say we got number one this week and you never hear about this album again like that's that's your plaque now that's your i went platinum right what did you do first week and congrats to those artists that's still a thing i mean i'm not gonna hate unknown for golden number one, even in a song. We talked about, I think you said it was her before someone. That'll do 30 a week for the next 90 weeks. Versus, yo, you did 60,000 week one. Yeah, we got you number one.

We don't even hear from this album anymore. Yeah, the first week number three is an interesting talk point. But other than that, what does it really fucking matter? What does it mean? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Is the shit dope or not? Which is what Meek just said on his little Twitter rant.

Correct. He went on. Yeah. Cole's been saying it. Everybody. I'm still looking at billboard numbers. For what? What does it mean?

Especially when the numbers are fake. What does it mean? Right. That part. Can't trust any of them anyway. numbers are fake what does it mean right that part can't trust any of them anyway i read an interesting article about spotify's purchase of two huge analytic companies and what that may mean for podcast metrics in the future as a podcaster you have to look at these things but what you think everything we just said already.

Yeah. I bought the factory. Alright, now our podcast just did X amount. Because we said so. Where'd you get the numbers? No, no, no. The company that we own. Our company just released the numbers.

Spotify is ill, yo. Spotify own the ad company, the analytic company the podcast and their own are in bed with the major labels and the platform and are in bed

with the labels and still ain't paying niggas they gave all that shit to Rogan where's my royalty sack Rogan over there would have needed a bag of money. I ain't buying shit.

I'm joking, man. I'm joking. I'm just talking some... Kidding around. Hey, Alex, you didn't have to pull it up and try to piss us off. Yeah, that pissed me off these tools will make it easier for publishers to turn audience insights into action and expand their listenership while ultimately growing their business no no go back go back before that both both pod sites and charitable allow podcasters and networks to include tags in their shows that

are used to track who listened if they heard an ad and whether they took action upon hearing it now if i got a show and y'all put an ad in there and y'all can actually now track to say okay this person listened to this went over there i should get some money for some shit that means yeah that came straight from my show you think they're gonna do that no no nigga we paid you for the ad already Listen man Get the fuck out of here bruh Hey yo dawg

Pepsi paid you nigga You ain't gonna get a penny Off of every soda sold You already got a lump sum Wait If you got a Pepsi ad In the middle of your shit Yo why you such a capitalist yo

No no I wanna hear this You really argued For Hillsong Church. I'm not over that. I didn't argue for them. No, you did. You argued on the side

of a megachurch. I did not. I just was giving you some clarity with regards to what was going on. I don't need clarity on the megachurch scam.

Let me hit his Pepsi. Come on, capitalist. You just want a pod, yo. Go ahead. Stop trying to trigger me. Anyway,

yo, if somebody gave you, if Joe Button Podcast gave you an ad. Is that what y'all using? That's the example y'all using? Y'all little managerial memes? I want to hear it. Nigga, say something else. Hold on, Joe, because I'm really trying to get what he's saying.

So look, if somebody gave you an ad, they paid to post their ad on your particular. You want me to answer? No, no, go ahead. They paid to post their ad on your particular... Okay, go ahead. You want me to answer? No, no, go ahead. They paid to post their ad on your platform. Correct. They gave you a fee. Okay.

Whatever that fee may be. Now, you want to get money off of all of the potential proceeds that come from the ad? No, what I'm saying is they're giving... They paying Spotify to place this ad in your show that don't mean you make money off of that true one two what i'm saying is if listening to my show you heard something that you click and that you clicked on and you and they can track it to say hey the purchase came directly because this person listening to this show stumbled upon it. Something should fall back to me in that.

Good luck with that. And that's where the fight is. Like on Instagram. I just purchased two data companies. I will beat whatever you're saying with my data. And I'm going to find some data that's going to make me correct and make you have to shut the fuck up in the meeting. No, no, they didn't get it from your link. Look, look, look on the screen.

These niggas wanted to fucking audit me for $1,000. Oh, man. All right, go ahead. Yo. This nigga's ignoring us. Why, man? Go ahead. Come on.

Go on. That's just nuts to me, though. Do you get what I'm saying, though? Do you get what I'm saying, though? Do you get what I'm saying? Bitch, my response to that is, yes, some people, when they honcho enough, get paid just like you're saying. There you go. Like, if you watch an Instagram and an ad pops up on Instagram that show you some Jordans or some Balenciaga hoodie that you've never seen, and when Saks pops up on my shit,

if you go to Saks and you buy some shit, then what? They already paid the place to add. I get it. But what I'm saying is, I didn't select this ad. I didn't say, yo, put this. I don't have a deal with y'all to put this ad here.

You signed, baby. And that's where they trying to cheat. Baby, wow. Yeah, you hear him. That's what you did That's the terms and conditions You won't date a broke girl Will you

Yeah absolutely What you mean Will you look down on her No Most of my girlfriends Been broke nigga Couple of them Had a couple dollars

But It's not a That's not a requirement For me to date you Okay If she broke If she broke And got nice feet

He in there I'm just checking And nigga I've dated girls That had money When I was broke What they feet look like So what's your point

It's not a contingency For me you ass What you was doing In the house When you was a broke nigga And she had money Dishes Laying dick

I'm about to say What the fuck You talking about Dishes and dick What the fuck Did you talk about Dishes and dick You ain't gotta do the dishes

Donuts You lay pipe right You ain't got to do the dishes. Donuts. You lay pipe right, you ain't got to do the dishes. Not dick and dawn. Wow, this nigga so stupid. All right, Ice made his Coachella debut. Round of applause. Round of applause for Ice making the rounds. I like this clip that went out.

Isaiah Rashad put like a montage in front of his performance of everything you niggas said. And we were in the you niggas. Ice was there. I was there. When we discussed it, it was there. Along with, he had academics in there. Game was in there.

There's a few people in there, right? And then not another peep about it. He just rocked out. I like that. Yeah. What a great way to handle that. Yeah. That was dope.

At a show. At Coachella. Right. At a show. Yeah. That was dope. This is how you do it. I'm quiet

I was quiet the entire time I didn't say a word bomb this is how I respond to it take these slaps right here take these slaps yup

and the part that was highlighted in the clip I don't remember who was saying it when they were like yo this was put out to shame me but it's done the

opposite it has had a really positive effect on everything like that hits home that hits home yo that's some shit that niggas like me when we came in we never had to even try to imagine like being outed as a rapper like we didn't think of that even when it was Wendy Williams circulating rumors of a gay rapper it was just a rumor and that was it

nobody put face to name but what do you think the ramifications would have been though they tried with a couple names like what do you think the ramifications would have been

had they had proof they may have been blowback in our era back then. Especially back then. Today, and that's what I'm saying, this was tremendous to see all of the support,

not just live at the show, but social media, the tweets, the pictures, the talk. His dreams went up. People was like, nah, we gonna ride with you because fuck that. Who cares? That's my thing. We preach that whole fuck fuck that let people do what they want shit but at the same time now you'll try to use that against somebody you know what i'm saying like which which side of the coin

you fall on that shit ain't got nothing to do with the slaps i don't give a damn do what you want to do no if he was whack we should kill him if he's whack then hey we got to investigate this some more how did the tape get leaked we gotta ask you gotta ask those questions but he's dope so nobody cares about that man and i wouldn't want it to happen to me i was coming in here to ask y'all uh if we think benzina was outed from a from a transgender if y'all are familiar with what's been going on with him the last i'm not week or two i saw a couple he did he did a reality show uh with the transgender he says that they were friends not friends but just co-workers she released audio where it sounded like there had been intimate relations he denies that he's done a few interviews where he doesn't speak upon the community

and just doesn't sound the greatest how he speaks about the community. And he continues to shut down these rumors that he's ever been in a relationship with Shawna Brooks is the young lady's name. 50 got a hold of this and had a blast. You already know. Yeah, you already know. You already know. 50 got a blast. You already know. Yeah, you already know. You already know. 50 go to 50.

Mm-hmm. 50 is like when you put the fucking, after you put the detergent in, the pod, the little pod thing you throw in, the extra shit. That's just going to get it right right. 50 is like, yeah. So that's what's going on with this.

But again, look at where we are in hip-hop. I'm home having to ask myself, hey, is that right that she did that? If it's true. He said it's not true. If it's true. If that's true. Is the lady right? And I'd like to ask somebody from the LGBTQ plus community.

Yeah, it's probably not for us to answer no that's not right I think it's a human thing I can say that that's not right I'm going to take I'm going to do you now and take the opposite side who says that that's not right

if two people shared a level of intimacy, that's both of their intimacy moment. Intimate moment, pardon me. That's their moment. So not only is it his moment, it's their moment. So if she wants to speak on it,

she's well within her right. The same way if he wanted to speak on it, he would be well within his right. They owe it to each other to keep it in confidence and that's why you're right parks i cannot answer this question yeah i don't know this is this is a very straight man way of looking no wait wait wait we talking about a guy and a girl no we're not we're talking about potentially two people in the lgbtq plus community and that's why i'm saying i can't answer it because what i'm saying let me finish because why I'm saying I can't answer it. Because what I'm saying, let me finish.

Because what I'm saying, I'm getting from them, which is, hey, we don't like to be outed. That is our story to tell. There are ramifications. It is dangerous when somebody else outs us before we are ready. We're getting killed in the streets murdered we have to explain to our family most of the times they not with it i get this from that community so

no i assume that you wouldn't want to out someone else i assume that as a straight black man i don't maybe i'm wrong and maybe i need to ask, but that sounds crazy to me because y'all told me it's crazy. I'm taking off for that completely. Personally, I just think outing somebody, period, is just I'm uncomfortable with it. Yeah, I don't care if it's a straight

man or a straight woman. If y'all got y'all shit on the raps and then she goes on the internet and puts that shit out there, I think that's wrong. But now we going to be going. Yo, we can't pick and choose when we take certain sides of the fight. That's why I'm on all the way on the same side. So I was using I was using a straight woman, a straight man example. I was using that example.

I wasn't even talking about that community. What I'm saying is if you share the intimate moment with somebody, you are potentially putting yourself at risk for that to be known. Because they can do what they want to do with that. It's their information. It's not just your information. I would like to acknowledge here. I think that what you just did was pivot our conversation. Because this conversation in straight communities may go different than it goes in this community.

It is different. It is. So then why are we talking about a straight man and a straight lady? I could give you a quick example. It's totally different if Benzino is in the closet

as a rapper from Boston, from the toughest groups in the world. Like, it's tough. Come on, stop. I'm just saying. I think issues...

Outing period. I'm just saying outing period. Like, it could be a... He don't want you out. He don't want to be out that he's messing with someone because he's married. It could be all types of reasons. I think that's what it's just trying to say i'm just saying outing

period now at the same time i do understand what is she saying like if you do deal with somebody and they decide to go public that y'all are dealing with each other that's their right or let me ask but it could be your right and be foul. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Two things can be true. Yeah, that's right. I'm with you. I'm with you with that. I mean, it's messy, but

it's messy, though. It's very messy. Nah, but as straight men, I think that's a conversation that needs to come up more because I keep seeing transgender people out straight.

You don't have no straight men. Yo, dog, you really want to have a conversation transgender people out straight you don't have any straight man yo dawg you really want to have a conversation nigga you don't have no rights explain give me more the people aren't that are the people that are downtrodden are the ones with the rights you get what i'm saying it's like the people that are downtrodden are the ones that have the rights so if you want to make it a racial conversation, I don't know. I'm just saying, I'm going to just use it as an example. People say that black people can't be racist, right? Because they have been the downtrodden group. If you want to take it to a sexist conversation, you can say that women have a right to feel a certain way. Men don't because men have always been the majority or the people in power so if you want to take it to the the lgbt plus community q plus q plus pardon me um then they have been the group that has always been downtrodden beat upon etc etc so i think that if you come from the downtrodden you have more uh say so

you understand what i'm saying or no i get it i do i get it and that is kind of true that's that that's where we go in this society again whether it's race whether it's economics whether it's whatever the people in power it's just right so i'm not gonna say my what my response is to him even though i am gonna say it because i'll just have a hot take all that's true my humble opinion black men are the downtrodden today we are but we're not not if you ask black women no no don't just put this on black i was gonna list some others okay some others we are downtrodden but if you if you in society or in it depends on what phase you're talking about. Because in society, they will say that there are other groups more downtrodden than we are.

I disagree, but publicly, there are other groups that get way more sympathy than we get. Tons. Three, four communities off the top of my head, they get more than we get. And they shouldn't, in my opinion, but

they do. And you better not utter a fucking word about them or there's consequences to that i don't know how we got so deep in this but you know it's a deep conversation because based on what you're saying it's like yo um um equity should be across the board if this group of people can't be outed then it shouldn't be right for them to out this group of people but that's not the world we live in you get what I'm saying no I don't like it as wealthy people

start talking about economics broke people gonna tell them shut the fuck up cause you don't know what you're talking about you can't start talking about

if you rich you can't tell people how to put they self in position shut your dumb ass up you was born with a silver spoon shut up some niggas wasn't

I know but i'm still gonna shut the fuck up yeah that's the stance that the downtrodden takes the poor people gonna say yo shut your dumb ass mouth same thing here there's no different i agree but i i don't i don't agree with that i think that when two people lay down together y'all should have a moral respect for each other especially if you know somebody's circumstance. If you know this woman is married and she got a husband, if you a man and you out her,

you a... Yeah, you right. Let me get my dollars. You a bitch ass nigga. That's just like podcast talk. It's mad people out there that are sleeping with people that they don't have this type of respect for. Right? Have you,

you're a rat. Yo, today in this clown chasing era, that's what it is, yo. I am not getting there. In this era of, yo,

I'm fucking an athlete and I know our situation, but I'm going to try to sneak it out there. I know you're married. Come on, we see this shit all the time. They got to show the arm.

You got pages that literally sit there and start piecing together yo she's they're on vacation together look at the background of this oh his tattoos is showing in this

like they know these shit and it's not just them men are doing it too yeah men do it too they want you to know this community does it like it happens out there so it's like

this is the attention seeking error I don't like it I think it's whack across the board I'm with you I think it's whack across the board. I'm with you. I think it's whack across the board. It's not just whack here. I think if a straight man and a straight woman are engaging in an affair,

and one of the people outs the other one, you fucking corny. It's still whack. I'm not disagreeing. You corny. Hip-hop dragged Mr. C through the mud when them stories was coming out. That's what hip-hop was then. That wasn't that long ago. You know how tight I'd be?

If you were him? Hell yeah. But he was fucking super tight. He potentially was the sacrificial lamb. Let's get my dick sucked in the car.

Mind y'all business. How about that? How about that? That's what I should've said but he couldn't say that. Couldn't say that at that time. Couldn't. At that time,

it's just, oh, I got a corporate job I'm trying to manage. People know. It's a whole lot going on today today outing him

for that you look crazy we was just talking about the Chingy story that was same thing same thing same thing

the Bobby V story somebody leaked leaked that one out Young Buck same shit Young Buck I'm saying I'm saying it

yo this is a trend in hip hop where men are being outed Young Buck. Same shit. Young Buck. I'm saying it, yo. This is a trend in hip-hop where men are being outed by transgenders. That's a fact. I'm going to tell you. I'm not disagreeing, but let me give you another example.

It's a deeper root. Let me give you another example. It's a deeper issue. Maybe it's not the conversation for me to have. No, no, no. That's the fact. Why that's even a thing

is because homophobia runs so deep in hip hop true and that's it that's really what it is and that's it so you out here

you in the KKK so niggas are so worried about how I'ma look I'ma look less than because of I can't let nobody know this which makes the outing the other person outing you

like they got they got something really on you yeah true like you a Hebrew Israelite you're a member of the kkk and you having sex you're a kkk member you having sex with black people and then the black people feel like oh you fronting out here you you insulting us but yeah in the public but you fucking with me behind closed doors let me put this out yeah you the hebrew israelite and you out here fucking with the white chicks let me put this out because you front hebrew israelite and you out here fucking with the white chicks let me put this out because you fronting and you and you and you on the public spectrum saying one thing but then when you get behind closed doors you saying a whole different thing

you laying on my lap and i'm playing in your hair and you love me you love me you love me but in the in the public you saying something different now now i feel vindictive and i'm gonna put it out yeah i think that's corny I'm not disagreeing no we all in agreeance that it's corny I'm just telling you why there's no different than a nigga cheating on his wife

and you saying I don't like my wife you telling this girl all this bad shit about your wife you going home to your wife when you leave here and you fronting in the public

like y'all fucking the Brady Bunch yeah the Huxtables it's the same shit. People start feeling vindictive like, yo, this nigga or this woman is front. You sitting here playing with me.

Let me put this out. Check this out. This is what you're really doing. Come on, let's talk about the rest of Coachella. Who else was there? Everybody said that The Weeknd went crazy

along with, what's the name of that band? Swedish House Mafia. Yes. Yes. Who? Swedish House Mafia. Swedish House Mafia.

Everybody said, I didn't see the stream. I didn Swedish House Mafia. Swedish House Mafia. Everybody. I didn't see the stream. I didn't watch it either. Everyone that I heard from said. Well, I watched a little afternoon shit, but I didn't see any of the headlines. I didn't see any of Coachella, but what I heard was Doja Cat set that shit on fire. Yeah, I seen some clips. That's all I kept hearing was, yo, she stole the show.

I do want to see the weekend shit, too. I wonder if this is still available to watch. Yeah, I have to watch these. Yo, people don't know that Doja Cat is her? I don't think they know yet. It's been an argument on Twitter the last couple days. No, but that's manufactured shit. That's fake.

Remy came out on the Drink Champs and was like, is Doja a rapper or not? That was organic. Remy don't really know drink champs and was like, is Doja a rapper or not? That was organic. Remy don't really know. She's having that conversation. And she's having that conversation honestly with Nori. That's what the platform is. Now, what the big acts do when something gains traction, like that Remy conversation gained traction,

they now make it continue to gain traction. So the conversation then became, is Doja Cat a rapper or not? No Doja Cat fan was asking that question prior to not not a one but i'm not a one of them because i don't think they put her in a box you get what i'm saying like when you say yo this person is a rapper or this person is r&b now you can compartmentalize them but that's in their these are casual fans that are saying this. And listen, I'm not so well versed on my doja, but I went back

and did the science and I'm a huge fan now. I'm doja high. Same. I am. But when I was doing the research, she's rapping.

She's rapping. And they're singing and there's the melody, voices. There's all of it. To me, that's the new pop star. That's what that is.

That's the evolution of hip hop. It's what Tank told us. That's what that is. That's the evolution of... That's hip hop. It's what Tank told us. It's what Tank said and told us about how R&B and rap... Yeah, it's all fused together now. ...marry each other. It's all fused together. This is the evolution of...

What did you think was going to happen from Nicki and Kim and fucking... Drake. ...Ken Drake and Drake. And you're going to get Doja and now Uzi. You had, what's the dude, Playbo playboy cardi that was just bigging up tech nine saying yo he started the he started all of that yeah rock star tour goth life he touring with uh insane insane clown posse like we are seeing our the kid listen we watch sports and we talk all the time right i'm looking at looking at, I feel old watching J.J. Redick

as a sportscaster. J.J. Redick was making 12 threes a game for real. 40 feet out. I hated Duke. Right? But we watching Gary Payton's son, Kenyon Martin's son,

Rick Brunson's son. We watching sons. Whatever we seeing now is the sons. They're the kids. Yeah. And they are working with whatever they got from us. All the tools, yeah.

It's all there. So Doja got it all, yo. I don't want to hear this, am I a rapper or not shit. She does a, she's been on live praising like Farrah Launch and Little Brother and shit. What she does, she said she wants to do an album with 9th Wonder. If that happens. I believe her. I know, I believe her too.

If that happens, when that happens, or she does something even in that realm. That don't, see, but when you say that realm. Unfortunately, I think that will change the perception. That don't even tell me nothing because 9th, I think, has that preem quality where he could go do all of this. That's facts.

Yeah, but he still will be cemented as a hip hop producer. Correct. And it'll change people's perception. Even if he goes left. So that's the rant that Wale went on. Wale was saying, if Doja Cat get on one of these rap beats, I'm telling you that's y'all ass. And I read it and didn't disagree. Yeah, he's right.

Yeah. You got to be careful with people that are just... Talented. Put a pen. They could do different shit, yo. It's just they not like it's shit they not boxed in like

we go back yo I can dance I can pull 50,000 out at a show I have the labels backing I'm a darling

up there I'm real life talented I can sing I can talk my branding is A1 my fucking I could do anything

knows how to use the internet. And you got it. My internet presence, millions and millions, is up. Y'all say she got a lot of legs. I don't look at her like that. But she's really it. She is. She's a star.

So it shocks me none that she went up to Coachella and dojered. Word. Who else went crazy? It doesn't shock you, you mean. I said it shocks me none. Shocks me none. Who else went crazy? That doesn't shock you, you mean. I said it shocks me none. Oh, yeah. Shocks me none. Who else went crazy up there?

Those are the two that I heard the most about. I'm not really, I don't know who else went crazy, but I heard The Weeknd and Doja Cat. They were very selective with their stream schedule, too, so that's what kind of made me not glued in. You can't see everything. You're only seeing six acts. They had three stages, so that's cool, but maybe not glued in you can't see everything you're only seeing six acts they had three stages so that's cool but you're gonna miss

a lot of people I wanted to see like I don't think Griselda was on the stream like people I wanted to see were not there so that kind of turned me off okay

was it true those reports about Coachella ticket prices going down once the Kanye cancellation was reported I don't know I didn't even hear that. Look it up.

Let's check that. Look that up. I wouldn't be surprised. That's a major... Me neither, which is why... Yeah, but now if you gave that amount of money... But that's why the weekend should have never been asking for what. Whatever that report was, I never believed that.

Yeah. Said they plummeted by $300. Shouts to Ye man just being able to do that with saying I'm not I'm not coming like I'm

I'm that important to whatever whatever brand it is me pulling out can affect you although I'm sure this is probably mostly referring to

the resale market to the resale market as opposed to the retail market still powerful and amazing nonetheless who else performed it Coach? oh the resale market as opposed to the retail market. Still powerful and amazing in the last bit. Secondary ticket. Who else performed it, Coach?

Oh, the Meg. Meg dropped the unreleased joint. She did. And I liked it. Over that Jodeci beat? Yeah. Jodeci Wu-Tang beat? That shit was hard.

I liked it. I liked that. That shit sounded hard. I'm not going to get into who I think she was talking to. You're the freaking Uriah. She got stacks. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't care who she was talking to. I'm not wasting my time with that But it sounded hard It did And y'all say I be hard on Meg But credit where credit's due She tore that up

Yeah I like Harry Styles, y'all I don't know if I told y'all that No, you didn't That's like a secret Well, y'all know I came in here I'm the only urban podcaster

That ever played Watermelon Sugar. I might have broke that amongst black podcasts. I intro'd a pod with Watermelon Sugar. And he got a new one out that's a slap. Grapefruit? Huh? Grapefruit? No.

No. Not grapefruit. Go ahead. You just skipped all our music talks. Yeah, go ahead. Nigga, man. Watermelon Sugar man Lil Baby performance new single

in a minute at Coachella Lil Baby he's coming too there's another one that's coming this summer probably

probably so yeah yeah that's another one that's coming music is in such a great space word

I'm excited you gotta feel good. You have to. Back outside. And they lift the mask mandates a little bit. Yeah, if I can move me back outside. There might really be an outside. I know last year in New York, we was high. They might not be getting robbed as much.

Ain't no masks. Last summer, they was tearing people's ass up because- They wasn't just robbing because of the mask mandate. Crime is really up. a couple different reasons. And yo, yo, I feel for anybody out there that ever watches the news. The news, yo, I know I say it all the time. It's a dark place. The nigga in Queens, in Queens, married couple with two kids.

Husband takes one of the kids on a trip. Wife is there with the kid upstairs. Man comes in and stabs the woman 60 times with the kid upstairs. You can Google that

so I can see what part of Queens that was. But, that's what they doing on The news Alright you don't have to pull that up Yeah I didn't want to see it When it came up That's why I can't watch the news And I know you

I know they say you have to watch the news I don't want y'all Listen I'm just telling y'all the truth I don't want y'all to think Because the mask mandate is lifted That shit is sweet in the streets It is not It ain't

And I'm telling y'all So be careful It's summertime Y'all know what that means in New York Mandate is lifted. That shit is sweet in the streets. It is not. It ain't. And I'm telling y'all, so be careful. It's summertime. Y'all know what that means in New York. You know how niggas give it up. You know where you should be, where you shouldn't be. Head on a swivel. It's happening out here.

Y'all don't need me to tell you. That's what I'm saying. We come in every week and say head on a swivel. And we come in every week and report death damn near too. So... Nah, these nigg this is saying that I read a report that said that L.A., this is the worst L.A. has been in eons

for robberies and shit. Like, it's just, this world, it ain't just New York, nigga. Somebody put a, like,

a highlight clip out of robberies taking place in L.A. And I'm not trying to be funny, but like, it was people just sitting outside

at restaurants and just a clip of like a real New York City. Running around robbing left and right, left and right. I was like, dog, you can't even sit outside and have a meal? But this is what I'm saying. Not that the masks make you do or don't, but the masks gives you somewhat more confidence that you're not going to get caught.

I knew shit was bad in LA. The LA gang members was popping up like, yo, LA's bad. Right now. If you're from out of town, yo, do yourself a solid. Stay away.

We got the cops outnumbered by this amount. Like, just don't come. I'm telling you, you love a nice gang member. Good. Sensible.

Thank you. I was headed that way but now why y'all trying Houston or something I just don't know um look little baby

I'm coming there it is that's it ta-da I'll be honest with y'all y'all and maybe I'll save it for Patreon

it's a bad time if you're trying to be a rapper I think it's a great time I think it is too tell me more why it's a bad time if you're trying to be a rapper I think it's a great time I think it is too tell me more why it's the same conversation

we've been having man you go out to the store to get the big album and you see the little album there and you I was gonna get into that saying that

why would Jokers push their shit back cause y'all told me last week that they shouldn't crock of shit y'all I don't know this

y'all told me last week no I agree that was a crap shoot though that's not a that just don't work every time you don't just everybody ain't just dropping with beyonce and now we're gonna see the windfall from beyonce dropping but even listen to what they just said as a rapper the the sport where you gotta think you the best or try to be the best or compete compete with the best, you got to come in and play a little fiddle. No. Motivation.

And that's why, and let me just give y'all my point, and then y'all can respond. Every orchestra needs a violin too. You said a violin? A violin too. Number two, second seat. All orchestra meet a deaf in hip hop.

Listen to this. This is why I'm saying what I'm saying, and then y'all respond. The people that have a choke call on the market share now, it seems that they have it for the foreseeable future. Like, we was sitting here talking about Jack Harlow, who's new. If y'all can't tell, he's got all the backing in the world,

and he's going to continue to make hits for a long time. Yep. He ain't going nowhere. Future's not leaving just because he took too much money from everybody. So he's just here to stay. And he's going to continue to make hits for a long time. Yep. He ain't going nowhere. Future's not leaving just because he took too much money from everybody. So he's just here to stay. And he's great still. See, but I don't want to talk about them. You got to still deal with the greats.

So get Cole and Drake and Future and Cole, Kendrick. Get them out of here. Jack Harlow's new. Lil Baby is new. Dirk is new to these white girls. Moneybag. Moneybag is new. It's just all of ESTG is new Dirk Dirk is new to these white girls Moneybag Moneybag is it's just all of

ESTG is new like the people that you gotta battle with they're gonna be here dominating I still think it's a great time for the next 10 15 some of these dudes

maybe 20 years as an up and coming rapper now or the nigga that's trying to get in the door I now gotta try to wrestle with how to maneuver around the chokehold that these people have on the marketplace I'ma tell you why I think it's a great time that's rough

because Lil Baby wasn't Lil Baby he had to get there so the next person can do that hold on let me respond to Ice bullshit I'm calling the Atlanta cheat code The next person can do that Flavio Yeah these niggas had to get there Hold on let me respond to Ice Bullshit I'm calling the Atlanta cheat code Lil Baby comes from the long lineage Of people that help each other

And he fed that to his brethren Okay Everybody's not afforded that I don't want to hear that shit You're right Them niggas do it different And they do it right Okay

Yeah I don't want to hear about you other niggas Okay let's take him to the side then. The other names you mentioned, they not off the Atlanta tree. Cardi, Meg. It's still wiggle room to get in there.

I will say this. The blog era was a better time to be a rapper though. Much better. What? So you agree with me, man.

Get out of here. No, I think it's still a good time to be a rapper. I think it's a great time to be a rapper. There's more flexibility now than you ever had. Yeah.

But the blog era was the best time to be a rapper. This is the worst time time to be a rapper. I think it's a great time to be a rapper. There's more flexibility now than you ever had. Yeah. But the blog era was the best This is the worst time ever to be a rapper. I'm starting this conversation from 98. In 98, I think that was worse. Let me talk.

Go ahead, though. In 98, it's big budgets everywhere. Yeah. Big budget deals, big budget, it's inflation. Everybody eat.

Everybody. From the Jay-Z to the Sauce Money. Everybody in 98. It's inflation. Everybody eat. Everybody. From the Jay-Z to the Sauce Money. Everybody in 98. It wasn't just Mase and DM. In the 90s, you could just pop with something and have one and run. And that's from however you wanted to do it, right? That carried over to...

Shit, when I came in, we was like, oh, great. X should be about finished. Hov should be about finished. That's what we were saying. like oh great X should be about finish Hove should be about finish that's what we were saying we were saying Nas should be he was saying hip hop is Del get these niggas out of here

Wu-Tang should be done let's go so we was a new class that's what I'm saying about these guys today where it looked like they just are there for the future

in the 2000s it was open playing field blog era baby huh? blog era baby that was the greatest well no blog era is after. Huh? Blog era, baby. That was the greatest. Well, no. Blog era is after ringtone era. Oh, true. See what I'm saying?

Then comes ringtone era. And that's why I'm looking at it. Wait, then comes ringtone era, where now niggas in they basement could catch one and hit it somewhere and make some money. Well, that still happened to them. That's why I say this is a great time to be a rapper. And it's even easier. No, now it's manipulated.

Now, these niggas is going viral on the ground. Niggas in they basement got to go get with Steve Stout or get with a company or one of these niggas to do that. When the ringtone era was out, we never heard of none of these niggas. It was just popping up. Then came the blog era. No, because you had to have a smash for a ringtone. Mixtape, ringtone. It's not true. It's not true.

It's not true. Niggas chased that. A lot of people ain't get that ringtone shit off, y'all. Like, you still had to have something behind you. You had to have a smash. Yeah, you had to have a smash. That was able to be made as a ringtone. Yes, you did. Ringtones were TikTok, so they were breaking records. So that's why y'all are saying what y'all are saying.

I'm not arguing with y'all. But ringtones were breaking records. They they were breaking the record but now joe it's easier now also stop let me jump in real quick with insider knowledge also all us couldn't get one everybody couldn't get same shit today they can't you see all these niggas chasing these tiktok videos and dances and shit trying to go viral. Everybody can't get one. And wait, wait. But it's what I'm saying.

Mixtape, ringtone, blog era, and now here we are, streaming era. Social media and streaming era. Nah, I disagree. Worst time ever. I don't think it's the worst time ever, but I do think that the problem is that the gatekeepers basically took over. Streaming era came off of blog era where it was kind of anybody could have a shot. Parks was with me. Yeah, yeah.

But now to get on the playlist, to get on the... A playlist today is what a blog was 10 years ago. Correct. And the playlists are all controlled by somebody. By the labels. Yeah. What does the new artist have today? He don't have a mixtape.

He don't have a playlist. They're getting that after they sign he don't have radio soundcloud it's not what he don't he don't have publishing they're not gonna let him in nowhere oh he don't have uh the tech nine he's not even doing a circuit uh no no he's not doing that he's not doing that because that's controlled everything is controlled today is what I'm saying. So the people that have the control on the market share, they're not budging for at least 10 years. So you have to be creative. I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying you have to be creative. It's all forward.

It is forward. New people can get into that and get some of that market share, though. The what? The Galluses. Capella Gray. How do you explain that? You got to be creative. Oh, all right.

You have to be creative. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm always on the side of creativity. Creativity will always win, but it always has to be pushed to the next extreme. When this side reacts to whatever y'all did, now you got to push to creativity. Now you got to find a new back door. Now you got to create a new path here. Change a rule here.

It just has to be pushed. I'm telling you, bro, I still disagree with y'all. I'm saying these dudes put YouTube videos out and it just go. Like, I'm telling you. All right, and I know y'all hate when I talk about niggas rapping about they opps. That's who I smoke shit.

Them little shit like that started a whole trend of niggas just rapping about they opps, all of this, and it started to go. Niggas got on. Niggas made some money. You think that was organic? They might not. Originally, yes.

It was organic, originally. Then people started chasing it. How do we know? And then once they saw some money in it. Looks like it's a pretty expensive video. How do we know? But I could be wrong. How do we know?

We don't know. The Who I Smoke video is the dude on the golf course? Yeah. Yeah. Stop it, Ice. Stop it. Stop it, though. Why it. Stop it, though. Why?

The video look like it cost too much? It don't look like it was from... It don't look like no... We're going to shot with an iPhone. It looks like a quality video. And little niggas is getting money. Stop it, yo. Fam, we...

All I'm saying is stop it. All right. That's it. I understand what you're saying. There's no way to know. That's what you're saying there's no way to know that's the major point there's no way to know one side could say this was organic one side could say i see how it was not because that's the trick but even the song is to hide talking about even a song it's no such thing if i see the song if if the label see that the song got a hundred spins

in a matter of a week, then we out of here. Oh, shit. This song did that. I seen enough to make me go. We out of here. So that's what I'm saying. It's easy to earn. That's what he's saying. That's what I'm saying.

That's what he's saying. Because you can make that song in your house, on your fucking iPhone, and put it out. And get them 100 spins a week. Get that label coming. Throw that bag. Nothing about what he just said is easy. Absolutely nothing about what he just said is easy. Absolutely nothing about what he just said is easy. No, but he's saying he thinks it's the best time.

Time. Because the access. Because he thinks the hard stuff is easy. The marketing should be the hard shit. He thinks the hard stuff is easy. I understand what he's saying. So you think all of these young kids, right, that's just popping up today,

know about marketing a song? Tell me the next trend. I don't know. I'm asking you tell me tell me who was the last trinidad james who was that guy that guy that bobby had a job it's not true stop it see see i got you niggas how not that video started shot in a fucking projects in Brooklyn and it just literally went viral in New York

and it grew and it grew and it kept growing and it kept growing and it kept growing then some money gets behind it he got signed

before that video or after after how many Bobby Schmurda songs have you heard that qualifies two or three how many Bobby Schmurda

songs have had a shot in the light he went to jail what does that have to do with what I'm saying it's not fair Joe wait then you don't know what I'm saying Two or three. How many Bobby Shmurda songs have had a shot in the light? He went to jail. What does that have to do with what I'm saying? It's not fair, Joe. Wait, then you don't know what I'm saying. It breaks his momentum. Stop, stop, stop, because y'all don't understand me.

I'm not saying he hasn't had enough. I'm saying he's had a bunch with him going to jail. With him going to jail, Bobby Shmurda name has had a few opportunities and a few shots and label backing. Correct. He said it. He said, yo, this white lady, she's old. I'm rolling.

Trinidad James is no. That's not what that is. That's two different eras of hip hop. That's two different backings. That's two different things happening. Stop. Trinidad James worked in a shoe store and made something in his basement, like Ice is saying, and put it out on the internet,

and that organically went and it went so crazy blog era that the label backed that not him that and they hit that shit out the park and then he was back left with his resources and it's tough to do it on your own shout out to trinidad james check it out there he is the lady bobby smurf listen listen the labels have realized fuck backing that we back you and eat off you all the way around now mcconin up on a tuesday oh that's what that is yeah that's just uh i can name a few from this era yo i get you but i'm telling you that now the same thing that can't happen today because the labels switch it a little bit now they're backing

they're putting their money to 360 so the labels don't let it happen I'm not with you because I'm still saying it's easier to get only thing is

they're not putting their money behind that record easier for who you keep naming people that are backed they was not backed in the beginning

says you he's saying they got themselves back I'm saying they were back in the examples that he's named. He said Bobby Shmurda. Give me the people. I just gave you Bobby Shmurda. You told me he was backed in the beginning?

No, but the backing never left. That's not what you said. That's not what we're saying. I'm literally just saying that somebody can go get themselves hot easy today and get backing. Now, where it changes is for your trinidad james example they backed the song they wasn't backing him today the labels realize ain't that much money in music so what we're gonna do is back you and eat off everything you do all your brand deals did we put you here we put you on this stage that's what i'm saying i don't know why y'all

are trying to confuse what i'm saying i'm not trying to confuse anything well we can't talk and listen what you just said i agree with that point is why i am saying it's harder today trinidad james was a mistake no disrespect i'm not trying to say it like that. But the labels didn't intend for that. But it happened. Today, in everything Ice is saying, it is more controlled. Which leads to me saying, that's why it's tougher today. What are we arguing about? I just, because you made it seem like it's tougher to get into the game today, and I say it's not.

That's why. That's what we were arguing. I don't think it's tougher at all today. It's tougher than it was in the blogger. I will say that. As someone who's active. And that's off on a tangent I don't think it's tougher at all today it's tougher than it was in the blogger I will say that as someone who's active and that's off on a tangent yeah

off on a tangent what else we got we started talking serious so y'all stepped on my hate again who'd you hate all this time I want to send some

special hate out to the Coachella attendees okay the people that went okay oh hey why Coachella attendees. The people that went. Okay. Why?

I hate when y'all ask me that. I do. So you just want to hate without reason? No. Stop. Stop. Stop. I will not let y'all do that today. When y'all do that, it positions this as senseless hate

when it is not. It's not. All right, but Joe, when you say I hate something. I hate all of that hipster shit. Everybody put their little cutesy outfit on sitting in the grass.

I hate that shit. That's all the shit you would do. Where? Where? When? With your shoes on. Where and when? Hey, Joe. I hate that shit that's all the shit you would do everybody get where where when with your shoes on where and when hey Joe am I rushing

to the mass crowd of 300,000 people or how many people I'm about to say I'm glad you put that part in there because I was about to say I remember we was riding

through uh I think it was Englewood somewhere you saw some little outdoorsy shit it was like yo that'd be me I'll go sit right there

in that grass and there was some little live band on stage about 20 people there was probably a folk band that nobody knew ice yeah yeah i'll go if my anonymity is maintained i'll go and do that that might be cool coachella's coachella so this crowd with this many backstage passes and this many VIPs and this many celebrities, this budget on this Disneyland. It's nasty. I think it's nasty. For me, as an actual participant. In this music thing. When I see this.

From where it started. Who owns it. The backing in it. The politics involved. To be a part. The politics in part. And even the audience. These colors.

These people. Yeah. Y'all could think that that's senseless hate. I know that it makes perfect sense in my brain just when you look at where hip-hop started and where it is and our participation in it we're still the brand ambassadors we're still the guys that do it for the look and we put on all of these brands and go to this brand as a brand and do branding for everybody but

you. You're just happy to be there in this sea of branding. Sounds like a good time though. He lost me. I want to be on the side of the fence when some niggas are getting paid for a good time though. He lost me. I want to be on the side of the fence when some niggas are getting paid for the good time. Like really getting paid for the good time.

Like really getting paid for the upswing and the mutual interest that we have and everybody having a good time. Some people are really getting paid from that and some people are not. Well, that's why you got to salute like the Dreamville festivals. Like you have those that we start for us coach ellen or bigger than that you can't be mad at

the people that hey when you tell me who i can be mad at but come on you shouldn't be mad at the people that Are conducting business As opposed to the people That's doing the shiny shit If a lot of people Took their money You're not replying To what I'm saying

I'm about to If a lot of niggas Took their money And wanted to create A Coachella festival The people that are Responsible behind the scenes For Coachella

The brands The acts That have made Coachella it They could have It's ignorant They did not It's ignorant they did not it's ignorant I disagree

I know them people you talking about can't even they can't have a picnic on this space so find another

space well what does that have to do with the space that we're talking about like Ice brought up the Dreamville

festival and while that's awesome that's not the same conversation that I'm having with Coachella. They're both festivals, but that's the only similarity. But I'm saying Coachella didn't start this.

Coachella didn't start this. You have to grow. It had to grow into this. So, yeah, what happens in the- How did they grow into this? The acts that are going in and participating in it. So what are y'all saying to me? So Ice is saying that the Dreamville Festival is Coachella in its mini stage prior to it becoming the monster that Coachella is.

It's not. It's not. I disagree. But, okay, cool. It's a fact that it's not. You can't disagree. That's a fact that it's not. At no point.

The first Coachella. It's not that. Stop. To say that ignores my point which is and we have this conversation a lot here which is a dreamville and the greatness that fucking j cole and that whole camp is no that's not going to ever be this because what you said is the ignorant you can't get on this space you can't get the permit you can't get the fucking licenses you can't get anything you can't get shit now stay there but you go there and you put all these fucking brands on you promote everything else

in the fucking universe and do it for the look only in hip-hop do we still do everything for the look one day we'll learn that there's business in the look let me ask you business in the look you don't think that dreamville could ever amount to this why are you sighing we're having a conversation because it's not a conversation. I'm asking your opinion on a topic. I just gave you my opinion. No.

And that's why I disagree. And the fact that we think that is even more reason why these niggas don't try to start their own shit. Because somebody that at your stature

is saying that Dreamville cannot possibly become Coachella. So all of the acts that are now going to Coachella that are smaller acts, they think, why not go to Coachella because we can't start acts that are now going to Coachella that are smaller acts, they think, why not go to Coachella because we can't start our own shit? We can never get this big. We can never get this big, so why would we not patronize them?

Awesome. Under the current construct, with all of the red tape that may be invisible to people that hold the same opinions as you and Ice, that may be fine. I acknowledge all the red tape. Me too. You don't if you're telling me that. No one takes the tape away? Green. I was going to say, what happens if a Kanye and a whole bunch of my disciples start a festival?

Stop it. It's 400 years of tape. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Tell me. Let's sell it. Let's go become trillions right now what takes the tape away

ish nothing yo I'm ignoring your point because we're going to disagree and I don't feel like arguing well what do you feel like doing

pardon not arguing we just going to have but why we got to argue because we share we disagree I know we share

a fundamental that ain't an argument we share a fundamental difference in opinion when it comes to topics like this so my opinion on this particular topic is, yes, we can. Your point is, no, we can't.

Cool. And if that's your point. Under the current construct. Cool. And it's not changing. Don't make it half a sentence. It was a sentence. You said, no, we can't.

I asked you a direct question. You said no. Under the current construct. So under the current construct, when is that construct going to change? So now you criticize the people for going there. If they feel like you feel saying yo we change in your lifetime that's a fucking lully okay hope god willing that i'm here for enough years but what i'm saying is this now you can't say yo dog y'all can't change it but not participate the only way you could get to change is if you don't like you you you you you you

contradicting yourself you can't criticize the niggas for participation but then knock the other people saying that they can't change it do you understand what i'm saying or no yeah oh okay i agree with you 100 you say i never criticized dreamville or jay cole no you didn't i introduced them into this conversation i'm criticizing the acts that are going to go to coachella you didn't criticize jay cole at all criticizing every act just so i'm consistent in my point i'm criticizing every act with the brand power and leverage to break things that didn't exist and would not succeed without your participation without profiting and participating in the upswing the way you are supposed to it's my same kodak black point

we're rolling loud i'm consistent in that point i understand your point what i'm saying j cole paid a few niggas had his camp come and called some niggas and and he garners that crowd on on his own whenever now what happens whenever he feels like decide to grow and that now so now what happens when jay call no let when jay calling yay do it or when you're calling somebody else do it or when jay call gets the backing and the branding from blah blah blah blah and they decide to do it it could potentially become a coachella but we're not going to even try it if you're saying no under this current level no matter what it can't be done why try i think you think that resists what you're saying it just acknowledges the current construct ovio uh that ovio shit they was doing out there had legs in toronto but again that's from the people that can garner the audience

whenever they wake up out of bed, whenever they feel like it. It's reserved, right? Yes. And even now, what happened?

I don't know. What, COVID, didn't that shut it down a little bit? I don't know. I don't know. I mean,

it was going strong for a few years and then it wasn't. You know, COVID shut the world down. Coachella, Coachella got moved due to COVID. Coach know, COVID shut the world down. Coachella got moved due to COVID.

Coachella's disgusting. I hate it. Okay. I mean, you're a hater, so. Yeah. I'm not,

I'm not, a hater is supposed to hate. Right back to where we started. Let's go. I'm not going to argue you hating something if you're a hater. I just don't like the niggas that don't understand nothing I'm saying.

It's like saying I'm a hater. Nah, I just don't like the fact that like... I make all the sense in the world. You just make it seem like no matter what, we can... It's like we're placing that limit on ourselves. We can't get there no matter what. No matter if we go up and get three, four billionaires in our culture, we still can't get there for whatever reason. That kanye did fuck out of here i'm not performing

seven more niggas did that you get somewhere my conversation is always rooted in that hey what if the biggest the baddest and the best just went this way instead what and if that happened then maybe you could change the current construct when has that happened it doesn't happen there are 20 million reasons why it don't happen all of that red tape would need to be cut for everybody with leverage for that to change this is my same kodak black rolling loud point you can disagree but we have to argue about it no but you're saying that it can't be changed in our lifetime you just gave an example of how it can be that's where we get into opinion base i do not think that that part will change anytime soon but you just my entire life will be dedicated to

attempting to change it no you just gave an example of how it can i'm a creative ish i can think of 30 million ways that it can what do they have to do with it happening and executing executing people have to execute oh dog all right i know because now you don't have nothing to say no i'm saying people got a lot to say something you contradicted me. I'm not. I'm saying something that you don't have a fucking reply to. I'm about to reply to you now. Niggas have to execute.

I'm about to reply. We can sit here and think tank all fucking day. I don't want to scream. If niggas don't execute, then what is it going to do? To that, you say what? I don't want to scream.

That's what I say. I'm not screaming right now. I immediately have a reply to you. Give it to me. You just told me that it's impossible under the current construct

to be changed. I did not. I never used the word impossible. Don't put words in my fucking mouth. I asked you if you think in your lifetime it'll change. I gave reasons why I don't think it will. To that you say what? I would love for you to shut up and let me talk.

Then don't put words in my mouth. The same way I just did for you. I didn't put words in your mouth. Cool. The same way I just did for you, I would like the same exact courtesy that I just gave you and not interrupt you. Got you. You said, will it change in my lifetime? I said, I i hope it will you said you doubt that it will yes or no yes but then you just gave us an example of how it could potentially happen easily with the seven

top acts that don't resist that dog please let me talk with the same seven acts that you said could pull out of coachella and do what yay did and start our own festival. I asked, do you think if Dreamville could start and grow? You said no. You just contradicted the point. We as black people could create our own fucking Coachella. Are there seven Ye's-ish? Four, five. Are there seven Coles-ice? I'm not contradicting

my point. There are not. Who are the top seven acts You say off of this Coachella Right here Well we go with the big font You gotta pull them off the big font It's big font for a reason It's three

Okay Yeah I'm saying But that's not Who off the big font Is in our culture Cause you mentioned our culture So stick with the big font is in our culture. Because you mentioned our culture. So stick with the big font. Who in that is in our culture?

How many names do you see? You use an only top line. Harry Styles is not us. I'm saying the big font. That's what you say. Lil Baby is us. Daniel Caesar is us. Big Sean is us.

Baby Keem is us. That's just the second line of that one. Megan Thee Stallion is us. Disclosure fucks with us. Another one. And that's just the second line of that one megan the stallion is us disclosure fucks with us another one and that's kind of my point that's kind of my billy eilish fucks with us too the weekend is us like even all these people that you're gonna say is not us fucks with us are on labels being controlled by us not controlled by us but ran by us as far as artistically like us dominating the market share. So even the people that you're going to say ain't us, still a Jivion.

Us, right? Second line. 21 Savage, us. Told you. And this last one here, it's just ours. But listen, I have another theory. This don't matter here because I don't think Coachella, I don't really want to get into this, but Coachella's not in the greatest spot right this second. That's why I think these names look like this.

These names don't look like the normal Coachella names. There's nothing you can say to me. This lineup don't look like this. Joe says there's a reason for that. Now, if you attack now when pre-COVID projection, you're looking for business to do a certain you're looking for numbers to come back now and you attack now with seven back to our argument is with seven years or i'm just through seven out there but five four whatever the whatever the number is that affects this like the shit jay prince said about the grammys yo give me these names but that's why i'm telling ish that's why I don't think I'm arguing with him because yeah, niggas could think of a way. That's totally different from doing it

and convincing people, hey, let's do this. You know how much temptation you telling people to step away from? Yo, go somewhere and try to convince one of these artists to not perform at Coachella, rolling loud. Try to convince them. You won't.

That's the red tape that I'm talking about it's not just this racial shit so i don't want us to get into our normal that's it's the it's the what we've been conditioned to understand believe and you gotta go we gotta go convince us we can't jump off the cliff because we can't fly that's that's what we have to take out of our own brains that we can't do it some white corporation has to do it for us. So that's why I'm saying that you could take the Dreamville Festival and now you add Kendrick to that next year. You add blah, blah, blah to that next year. And you can get all of those third and fourth lines niggas to follow.

You've created your own Coachella. You've created your own Rolling Loud. Once you take Cole and whatever he's bringing to the table, you get Jay-Z to come possibly jump on one day. You get Ye or Kendrick to have a day, whatever the case may be. And you bust down the money accordingly. You could create your own Coachella. Why can't we create our own Coachella? We stop ourselves from that.

By saying that we can't because it's too much red tape. Because we don't have a union. We're saying it because it's too much red tape. We immediately just cut off the possibility. When LeBron and Chris Paul and them niggas go get mad, they go right to that little special hotel. They call up the players that make a difference. They get right to it.

What's that shit in the city? Shefty niggas start pouring. Yo, LeBron and them niggas on the sixth floor in the conference room. There's a bunch of... They start staking out New York. Know why? Hey, we're going to lock up for the next 12 hours to figure out what the problem is y'all getting tv money we not getting none let's have the discussion we can't have that yeah it's they've showed us a way

before but i've seen nothing in however many years of hip-hop to say that niggas is taking the blueprint and gonna do that we're're gonna keep hearing J Prince say that. We're gonna keep hearing somebody else say that. That was a nice fight. That was nice. That was cool. Y'all do that when I be trying to hate. My hate is just fun hate.

Only for you to come around to my point, though. You came around to me. You came around to me to say, yo, it could be done if the proper people did it. I think we fighting over, do you think you'll see to me you came around to me to say yo it could be done if the proper people did it i think we fighting over do you think you'll see it while you're alive and do i think i'll see it when you're alive definitely you say yes absolutely i say no but as long as the baton is passed and in a better condition than it was then that's the win like i don't do it to see it in my life i don't preach all this ownership equity hey let's

do this unionize so i could see the difference i'm done i do think we're about it if not this current young generation i need my kid my kids kid your kid your kid i need the kids these niggas is moving the matter of thinking is different if you could see, even in the NBA, if you watch the, what's the lake of shit? Winning Time. Winning Time. Ain't that the name of it? If you watch Winning Time, what was that, the late 70s, early 80s? That's it, 79, 80.

80, right? Okay, cool. So 40 years. You could see the difference. Even with Dr. Buss, what he was doing, they thought this nigga was crazy. He transcended the nba they thought he was crazy the nba was on the downturn pre magic and bird he took that added some sauce to it ran with it now you see lebron chris paul and all these niggas doing something that michael jordan

and magic johnson never did it just grows and grows and grows with the more information and the more success you get because money, a lot of times money gets information because now you're in different rooms when you got different money and you privy to different information. So I think even musically, the Dreamville shit I think is big.

You know what's funny? This is my brain. I'm going to shut up, yo, because me and A.C.E. just argue all day. Even in your winning time example, right? You know I kept saying Ice is naming hard stuff and making it sound easy? That's what I thought about your winning time example.

No. Like, look at what happened. That nigga waged every penny he had in the world on this. This white, successful man. Being a white, hundred million up. Look at all the one in a million odds things that needed to happen. For him. So imagine us yeah but like look like this wealthy white man right took all his money borrowed some money right to buy it buy something

that maybe they didn't they felt looked bad on paper but had potential and large amount of upswing and it was for sale even that before we get into hey i want to draft this black guy over the white guy before we even get to that that's kind of crazy right how many that's like once in a lifetime that's hard i think it was him though now he comes in oh my daughter happens to be a genius too i. I think all the cars just fell, right? Now I have to choose between Magic and Bird. I'm the guy convincing everybody to go with the black guy. I got to tell the Hall of Fame black guy that we're doing this a different way,

even though you're arguably the best player to ever play. Even in that story, look at the... You know how much luck I'd be watching that shit tight it was some luck but part of being good is being lucky you be mad at that too? no part of being good is being lucky

no I said you be tight at that too? I get tight at shit this I'm joking I get mad at everything cause we all don't have that hey we had this talk too

and we argued about it so we'll move on this was a Patreon argument when we were talking about uh birdman versus dre with jimmy ivine behind him we don't have to rehash it but for me it's the same when i see this i'm like damn thank god for magic that like that's the situation that and it was rough for him but it took a lot i just think i just think i get tight that all of us don't have the support sometimes in necessary situations so yeah when i see that i get tight sometimes niggas be scared or just again i again, we don't even have this conversation.

Support is a privilege, yo. It is. Support, everybody don't have it. True. Some people have to operate without support. It's nice. We said that to Keno on Patreon. It's helpful.

Yo, your resources, everybody don't have the same resources. We said to Keno on Patreon, everybody don't have the same resources, yo. For you to have a resource that you could call up in a tough time and say yo i need xyz i got this idea and it they come through so everybody don't have that so there ish and ice because we don't need to argue that what you just said hit it right on the head for me maybe i articulated wrong but when i see these beautiful glitzy glossy images of what they're telling us hip-hop is or telling us what culture is, and it's all these white people with balloons sitting down with their fucking cool kicks and eating snacks and shit, I, as a participant, think of where it started, and I say, damn, where did we dropped we dropped the ball somewhere

but wait that's a thought that's a thought for me real quick let me just I could be wrong in this I don't know was Coachella ever like

a hip hop thing I don't fucking know that's what I'm saying like that was never ours you'd have to look it up from what I've done I don't think it was I don't think it was

like it's not like well neither was South by shit is ours when we come in yeah but I just think the genre is so powerful that once you start getting three or four hip hop names on it It's not like... Well, neither was South By. Shit is ours when we come in. Yeah, but... I just think the genre is so powerful that once you start getting three or four hip-hop names on it, it kind of overpowers the situation.

To answer the original question, I do think this shit will change. Like I said, if it's not this current generation, it'll be the next one because these kids today just... They understand differently.

The information is available to them. Granted, it's still a bunch of them that's down to make mistakes, but it's a lot of them now that's waking up. And what's also starting to happen is people starting to realize that there's strength in numbers across the board, everywhere. I just seen an article that the fucking Apple store in, I believe it was somewhere somewhere in the city have unionized like it's happened just that one store that one store but now they're in their day that

one store has um they're pushing for like what they said the president they said it's for other stores to take to to follow suit and they're grand central that's what it was the fans get scared with me and you fight like that but I like it. It keeps the brain just sharp a little bit. No it does.

Like people just start I don't really be nothing. They think we really about the fight. They think everything is a deal.

Somebody asked me was me and Surf like you got people with Surf? I'm like nigga that's a little but anyway. Yeah I just think

people starting to realize yo together we move more than just having one over here with some power. Indeed. And Bron and them kind of be proving it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Like, LeBron and them be proving it. Like, that's what the NFL has yet to. I mean, it's different. It's made different. The pay is different. The salaries are different. All that stuff is different. The salaries are different. All that stuff is different. But I think that the NFL won't change, the old boys club, until they come together and say, yo, we 75% of this thing.

We got to have some voices. We got to make some moves. We got to take our power and use it in a cohesive manner. I think that they haven't come to that yet. Yeah, back to the point. Yo, if 75% of the black dudes says, you know what, next season we all sitting there. You have no product to sell.

Then I think that would further whatever conversation you're trying to have. A thousand percent. But will they do that? Nigga, y'all saw what happened. No, because there's some people out there that need that. The check. They can't. Some people out there just fly with whatever's going on.

I'm cool with what's going on. Fam, I had the conversation with a player that was in the league during the whole cappinick situation i think i spoke about this before and i asked him i said yo why y'all don't stand with cat like because in the conversation you with him he was like dog you know how many people depend on me i can't miss that i can't miss that check i'm with him but i can't miss that check i got a lot him, but I can't miss that check. I got a lot of people that I'm feeding. And he was like,

what would you do? Nigga, we know what you would do. You just said you would give your whole race away for fun. I'd dap them up. My nigga. Whole race,

I'll take that. 500? No, I get it. Thank you, Parker. We know what Ice would do. Ice,

you going to work. I'll sell you niggas out quick. See, but that's why I don't know why Ish is arguing with me, because this nigga's like Ice here. That's my point. No. We got to convince Ice. We have to change our brain and say that we can't do some shit.

We have to go convince Ice. We come together. We come up with a plan. He said we can't. We kill the shit. Now, I come to Ice. We need Ice. He the biggest nigga in the world.

Yo, we need you, nigga. Nigga, no. I get a million dollars a night. I'm fucking making, I'm making 90 million dollars. Get off my arm, Joe Budden. And Ice will change once he gets to a certain level.

How much y'all trying to get? See, look. See, look. All right, yo. Yo, come on. Let's move on. I'll give it to you. Just leave me alone.

I'm going to keep getting this money over here, though. Danny Lay's brother Brandon Bills is not cooperating with the police so that case has halted. Halted.

Yeah, claps. Give him some claps. No claps. Y'all want him to cooperate? You want him to send another black male to jail? I see y'all doing that. No, I'm just asking. I'm not doing anything. Why y'all want him to cooperate? You want him to send another black male to jail? I see y'all doing that to young girls. No, I'm just asking. I'm not doing anything.

I'm asking. Why y'all ask me a question and then hit me with the follow-up to paint narrative? It was a question. I wasn't. Let me answer the question. Because I ain't get no claps.

I was wondering why. No, I'm not clapping. Ever do. Let me, what's the first question? I want to answer it. First question. Do you want another,

do you want him to cooperate? That was his question. I ain't ask that. I said you want him to cooperate. No. Okay. Now what's your question? You want him to send another black was his question. I ain't ask that. I said you want him to cooperate. No. Okay. Now what's your question? You want him to send another black man to jail?

Never. Cool. So why don't he deserve claps for keeping a personal matter in house? Next time I see baby, me and him might go in the backyard and shoot a fair one. But I'm not going to go work with the people that's going to prosecute him. My sister's baby father. Even after he gave me to swirl around.

What choice did he have? What'd you say? I don't have no headphones. He has a choice, yo. Tell me. I just shot a nigga coming over the gate. A nigga was just

coming over the gate. I spared him, shot him in his leg. You want me to answer? He was 74. You want me to answer? I got to spare with you when I spared you. Bowled you right down.

You got a haircut fucking with me. I changed your whole fashion, your face style. Did you write? I changed your whole profile. You cut your locks. That nigga cut his hair off. Now, you gotta keep seeing me. I'm in the family.

I'm gonna see you, nigga. Shit, if you don't. Once I see you. see you, nigga. Shit, if you don't. Hey, we are... I'm here for the next 20 years. I'm going to start deferring the ice on it. You going to be up? Go ahead. Go ice. You ain't going to see me. You don't have to see me.

Once I crack you over your head with this civil suit, I'm going somewhere else, nigga. You're not going to see me. I'm going to see Niecy Poole at the Christmas I wonder if I wonder if I wonder if

Brandon Bills just went to the mailbox one day and there was a letter placed in there not mailed placed that

with a muzzle it was a picture of a pit bull no name he looking at the front like Yeah damn I wonder who this is from Open it Nigga you know

You know who it is You know who it is That's it Act right No no Act right It don't say too many words No act right

It ain't say much Shit say yo You know what to do I dare you That's it I dare you I dare you I dare you

I dare you So alright y'all Round of applause Come on Round You ain't have no choice you that's it I dare you I dare you I dare you so all right y'all's around applause come on brown no choice not a choice in sight nowhere hey I could have you know the news me reporting shit that I be wanting to report like you but I won't be using my Twitter I should have just said yo Brandon bills is not cooperating I could've told y'all this months ago. She's stupid, man.

Cooperating. You beat my ass while niggas was twerking in the bowling alley. Okay. In a body suit. After I told you it was on site, you followed suit. It was on site. It was on site. On site.

No, niggas just be saying that shit, yo. I bet he won't tell nobody else it's on site. The nigga that's looking to sue you is going to say on-site, on-site, just so you can hit him. I lost my glasses. I don't even want to see no more of Mr. Magoo with this shit. Like, what, what, what, what, what? Sight what? Sight what? What?

What? The funny part is, just in case Brandon Bills was thinking about cooperating, the baby shot that nigga from over the face. That's a warning shot for that. Yeah. Double entendre shot right there just in case anybody out there

think it's sweet let me just send a blanket message to everyone double entendre shoot him so listen last podcast well for a few podcasts now

I was making I was talking about my hate for Usher and his amazing skating ability. Right. And I double down on that. Like,

unless they don't let me hate. Can I hate on a skater, skating Usher, please? Yeah. Please. Go, Joe. Thank you. I hated on skating Usher with his,

finally, with his jewelry on, his little fucking thingamajiggy hat looking amazing fucking chain say you in it that's his initial this guy has everything

right and then a few and then I said I loved it cause Meek jumped in and made it look goofy and I like that fell over

I like that I like that as a goofy as a goofy dude right so then the internet started sending me clips of like this older guy. I think he's older with a gray beard.

And he was on this in the skate rink bugging, doing turns, one leg up, holding hands, hop, skipping and jumping. He was maneuvering. I was so glad that I didn't have to face this demon right like the way he was able to skate was different different

I had way more hate for him than when Usher he was going nuts this green man still can't find him right it's cool wouldn't you know we dropped that podcast

and two days later guess who's in my DM Usher the old man no Meek the gentleman Wouldn't you know, we dropped that podcast and two days later, guess who's in my DM? Usher. The old man. No. Meek. The gentleman.

The skating gentleman with the gray beard. That guy. I think that's the guy. He's in my DM. And says? Teach you how to skate? Nah. Who I am is who I am.

You're not teaching me new moves right now. And my mom be like, you should go learn how to swim. No. I am doing that this summer. Me too. I do need to learn how to swim. You don't know how to swim? No.

Hell no. You? I'm going to learn this summer. I don't know how to float. My mom thinks that that's like an indictment on me because she gave my brother swim classes and he knew how to swim. And she said she gave me the swimming classes and i don't know how to swim i dropped out of swimming class like that's crazy i did yo i i did too word is born i dropped out of swimming class but i had a different reason what was your reason like my um swimming instructor

was so he's telling us what to do but he couldn't get in the water to show us what to do so i was like trying it and it didn't work yeah if y'all don't want to have a podcast you can just say that no no i'm trying to say we don't we could just hit the x button we could just not have a platform ever i I was trying to say this in general as nice as possible. I'm over here bugging the fuck out. I thought that we all liked what we did. I'm not joking. I'm not going to say what his shit was, but he couldn't get in the water to teach us to swim.

So he's telling us what to do and he just wasn't working and almost drowned. So I was done with that shit. I didn't believe him. I had to remind my mom that yeah you used to tell my older brother to watch me and one time i was on his back in the pool and he thought he's being slick and went underneath for like mad long and i was drowning and nobody knew a thing so yeah my experience was probably different from his mom but no one almost That's it. That's all it takes. That's it. Once. Back to the skating guy.

He jumps in my DM and he says, Joe, I need you to grab the aux. That's not the right aux. He said, I need you to grab the aux and DJ, play music at my next skate gig. We need to throw a skate gig. He throws them, apparently, around the city. He said, yo, I'm going to throw something in New York. I don't know where he's from. I didn't ask him.

But he throws these events in New York and New Jersey. OK. So he said, yo, my next skate joint in Jersey, I need you there for an hour on the aux, just playing joints. I listen to the podcast. That would be awesome and I hit him back and said as hilarious as that

sounds you should totally do that sounds genius too why would you not do that bruh so now I don't know he said yeah now we need to definitely

do that shit and then I didn't hit him back again because I was afraid you scared of the moment that's that's your mom's spaghetti

and all that yeah yeah yeah hey You scared of the moment? That's your... Mom's spaghetti and all that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. What's up, y'all? Hey! What's up, y'all? Look at this.

That's my... Oh. Hello. How you doing? How you doing? Big Ack. Big A.K. Oh, man.

Yeah, we on. Yeah, I'm always live. Yeah, I'm always live, buddy. I can't wait to talk to Alex. What's in there? Nowhere now. We're going to grab you a seat. Alex, we on. Yeah, I'm always live. Yeah, I'm always live, buddy. I can't wait to talk to Alex. No way now. We're going to grab you a seat. Alex, make our guest at home. We're going to talk to Alex.

Dior bag. Shit different now. Shit different. Look, unreleased, off-white something. Like this guy, man. Ak, I don't even know what I'm supposed to talk to you about because I know everything. I just thought about that while you were on your way here how am I going to do an interview with you and I'm like what's that I was there I was I don't know we'll figure it out let

me ask you about the Chirac war like I don't care all this shit so you should take the gig man yeah no you really should you really should I've been telling you for the longest this is what you need to do this is your your next step. Success. You might be. You're a self-saboteur. Might be. Might be. Might be scared of success. Oh, man, I got to go back to school to learn this shit. You know what I'm saying?

That light getting a little bright. Mike can't handle it. Nah, that would be dope. All jokes aside, that would be dope. Well, I told you yesterday. I'll come skate support, man. Look, we was in a spot yesterday. R&B party.

I'm like, Joe, this is your bag. Do a guest spot At these shits Yeah that would be dope Like yo You the R&B nigga You can fuck around And go up there And do a set of sleepers

That shit that Niggas ain't even heard They know what time it is Sleepers won't pop You crazy as hell Not in a party Okay Nobody gonna identify

With the songs It's not I would go crazy In a R&B party. He would go crazy. I'm not saying all people would. Like they would. And shout out to DJ Nia, I think her name was.

Oh my God. Yeah, she was killing it. Something about a woman DJ, yo. Yeah. Like that knows music. Mm-hmm. That shit is sexy. Yeah, my homegirl do that out in Jersey.

It's just, stop, yo. That's the problem. My homegirl Kim do that out in Jersey. She be getting busy. And I'm like. Yeah, shout out to all the women DJs out there. Women DJs, man.

Now, y'all are great. Let's move it on before Ish finds his adjective. So yeah, shout out to my skater dude, man. Maybe I will grab dogs for an hour. I think you should.

You should do it. That would be lit, though. That'd be dope. And he gets busy. Ish, I do want to tell you You were right about Mary Mary having ass Oh shit You didn't say it

He just comes out of nowhere Like yo Nigga we all The world heard you say it On your take Yeah We were talking about music This nigga come out of nowhere

Yo they got ass Man And you talk Look 10 years ago Yeah A little more fine tune Oh no

I like it like that We know I like it You like that Jet like Jet like that Yo You watch this?

I saw some How was it? You watch this? I saw some I was It was good? It was good Production looks great It was beautiful I like what he had at that It was real

Gospely Cece got out there And went crazy Churchy Everybody did their thing But Cece is Cece Yeah Uh

BB was talking his shit From the start Yo Y'all can go first Y'all can go last I don't care where y'all go Do whatever you want. It's us.

Yeah. Today pays. And it was that? I mean, respectfully. Respectfully. Did the pack go up or what, man? I don't know. You're not supposed to say that.

It's like when gospel come on at the Apollo. It's 420. You can't boo gospel at the Apollo yo and Mary Mary's amazing so I don't want to paint it like it wasn't amazing it was all amazing

but BB&C's BB&C's so just so I'm clear the pack went up it's 420 ice alright well shouts to them now Mary Mary look good

they do you just don't act like you on the thickies yo I don't like that I don't like that though yo why do you paint this picture why do you paint your pictures that I only like skinny girls

why do you paint the pictures that you paint that's not true about this I didn't say only is it only skinny I do that with you he only likes skinny girls I don't do that with you you just only likes skinny girls i don't do that with

you and you just be trying to act like you love the thickies like love them love them you don't love all the nooks and crannies like joe do you know you might go deeper in the no you know like the little side things the little bad things um i don't have anything else that I think is extremely important to talk about I can't wait for all of these music releases yeah I'm looking forward

to this um is there anything else I don't have anything else that I think I need no check the list just to be sure

we don't wanna you know how we do oh shit we forgot this well playoff basketball, I want to say congratulations to Marcus Smart for winning Defensive Player of the Year

as a guard. Shout out to Boston, period, just for y'all turning around post-All-Star break. Yeah. Jason Tatum's that dude.

Shout out to Tatum. Yes, he is. Call me crazy. The Nets losing that game is great for the Nets. If you subscribe to Ben Simmons coming back at some point, then them buying extra days with a loss is kind of cool. Okay.

Oh, okay, okay. If you subscribe to that. Now, if you don't think Ben Simmons will ever be here, then you just lost a tight game. But if you believe he'll return like they talking, go out there and lose the next one. Go lose a game. Buy the guy

some time, because you're going to need him. Because y'all damn sure ain't got a coach. Steve Nash, come on, y'all with me or what? I said that. I'm waiting for you to talk. Steve Nash is... He's chilling. He's checking out. He's not coaching. He's getting a check. He's chilling. Steve Nash is. He's chilling. He's checking out. He's not coaching. He's getting a check.

He's stealing. Damn, you said he's stealing? He's not even talking to the players. Every time out, they paying to Steve Nash, and I got to look at his man whispering in his ear, telling him everything. Is that bad? Yes.

He's just a great basketball player, but every great. Know what they thought? If he knew how to coach, they don't lose this game in the last 90 seconds. Stop it, yo. I agree. Stop it. I agree with that. They would be much better in general.

I agree with that. This is a fucking – this is disgusting. Especially with these two killers. He's not even doing that. Because, yo, when you got talent, you really don't need to do the X's and O's. You really just got to manage the personalities and the players. That's all you really don't need to do the X's and O's you really just gotta manage the personalities and the players that's all you really

gotta do like Phil Jackson had to manage Kobe's arrogance Shaq's playfulness you know what I'm saying like that's all you're doing you're not really

an X and O nigga when you got murderers on your team them niggas is bonafide killers you need a coach to win that's why I'm gonna

pick against the Nets when they might get to the finals but they not but you need a coach to win. We do. That's why I'm going to pick against the Nets when they might get to the finals, but they're not winning nothing without a coach, yo. And I can't even kill him too much because I don't know if Kyrie and Durant want it this way.

Like, I remember when Steve Nash was hired, Kyrie got on and said, yep, great, awesome, a face.

We don't really need no coaches. He said that. We all want the baddie until you get her. Yeah. All face. We don't really need no coaches. He said that. We all want the baddie, too. You get her. Yeah. Then you realize she can't cook, she can't spell. Damn, she can't spell. I'm dying at that, because when did I learn she can't spell?

Never watching her write. Oh, man. She suck this. Oh, you watching her laugh? She's such a stupid, hold on this fucking guy um denver i told y'all they were fool's gold fraudulent first round exit waiting to happen i don't care how tough jovic and his brother's at think injuries play a part in that i don't care injuries is part of sports don't do that yo you're cheating i hate you yo you never just come and say

you know what joe you and say You know what Joe You called it No you called The Rams I told you Look what had to happen I told you that on air You called the Rams

You called the Rams off the game But the Warriors is my other pick I know And if Steph Curry was out Like Jamal Murray is out He's not But you said that You said if Steph Curry

Don't come back I don't know then Well if Steph Curry is out Then throw No I'm not picking him To win a championship But that's But if he was out Then he's out And my pick is just dead Because injuries Steph Curry's out then throw no I'm not picking him to win a championship but if he was out

then he's out and my pick is just dead because injuries are a part of it is what I'm saying and they still have injuries so let me ask you this I thought Wiseman would be a big part

of their rotation as a big man but that's the Warriors and that's Steve Curry with a coach and that's Steph y'all know his name Stephan

Wardell Stephan y'all know his name let me ask you this I don't want to hear about Denver ever again. I don't care about these niggas. Just one question.

One question. If they was at full strength, would you think they're still- They can smoke. They can boot smoke. Oh, okay. So then you say they fool's going in. Yeah, they boot smoke. That's all I'm-

They weren't no part to this fucking dynasty. This is the dynasty. They snatched the dynasty from Greg Pop and Tim Duncan and them. Hey, we next now. And did it in the West. They here. And been next. And been here. And not letting it go. Back to my, what I'm saying about the rappers too. Same thing. But, yeah,

nah. Bye, Denver. They keep telling me about these niggas. I love Jamal Murray. Love Jamal Murray. Go Knicks. Murray? Murray, yeah. No, you said Donovan. Yeah, Donovan Mitchell.

No, I'm saying Murray. The Nick pick that they traded to, I think, Chicago on one of those teams. He'd have to fact check it, but he's not ill as me. Turned into Jamal Murray and LaMarcus Aldridge. I think we got, I think that was the Eddie Curry trade. Hey, that's what I'm talking about.

I'm telling you, you could buy the Knicks, my nigga. That's going to be your Coachella. Just leave me alone. Leave me alone, please. I don't want to talk to you for the rest of the pod. Denver, Fools Go, that's what Joe thinks. What do y'all think? They got a chance? No. They don't want to talk to you For the rest of the pod Denver Fools go

That's what Joe thinks What do y'all think They got a chance No They don't have a chance No Not in the west They ain't got a chance

My favorite series Minnesota versus Memphis Two dogs I love John Moran Anthony Edwards I think Minnesota Has a chance to win They do

That's going to be a fight Which is going to be crazy Because Memphis Is just going to get The unfortunate matchup They don't match up Well with them chance to win, that's going to be a fight. Which is going to be crazy because Memphis is just going to get the unfortunate matchup. They don't match up well with them. Memphis was smoking niggas' boots all season.

And most of them teams in the West don't want to see them niggas. They just don't match up well with Minnesota. I thought Minnesota was a bad matchup for them and I thought if they could avoid Golden State, everybody else would have had to see them. The series I'm watching with the most interest,

Dallas versus Utah, because I do believe if Dallas beats Utah in the first round, then Donovan Mitchell gets traded and they blow that thing up. Why you just think he coming to y'all? I didn't say that. No, he didn't say get traded. I did not say that. Earlier you was like, yeah.

I'd like him. I bet you would. Anybody would. Well, okay. Slow down. His dad works for the Mets. Donovan Mitchell's dad. Yeah.

He has ties to New York. His agent. Okay, so it makes sense. Stop. They have things out there. It makes sense. It makes sense. Yeah, yeah.

But they're doing the same thing with Zion. I don't do that as a Knicks fan because they do that with every big star. They damn sure do. So I ignore it. For years. But what I do think, if Utah loses, he's out of there. This summer, he's going to pull a Kyler Murray. I think Kyler Murray, I think he has some nerve,

but he's my black brother, so I'm shutting up. I think that that little nigga has some gall, but I understand it, so I ain't going to shit on him. Get your money. Everyone getting paid. But after that playoff game? He didn't have all his people. I can't come for that.

So that's why he ran back to the other end zone and fell on the ball. That's why. Look, I ain't mad at that. So that's why he ran back to the other end zone and fell on the ball. That's why. Look, I ain't mad at nobody. I like that. Yeah, you got to just get your money, man. Yo, is there anybody y'all be mad at? Yeah, hell yeah.

Can I hear about that? Kirk Cousins, I told you about that. No, some of these niggas really got some nerve. They got some nerve. Kyle Murray got some nerve. He got some nerve. Nigga, you two, they go. Our organization traded our number our first

our last year's quarterback for you drafted you number one built around you we're taking we're taking you know what we're trying to do quarterback on a rookie contract

build around him cause he's talented and let's try to get a win we can't do that if you try to buck the system as a quarterback in year three we can't do that now I'm in buck the system as a quarterback in year three.

We can't do that now. I'm in agreement. We committed to J.J. Watt. We committed to Chandler. What's his name? The dope nigga that's over there. We committed to D-Hop. We traded for Zach Ertz.

They went all in. We built around you. So that's why I'm not going to kill him because that's the time that you're supposed to buck the system. That's not true. But off that last game,

bad time. Bad time. You're going to get paid. That's not the time you buck the system. From Arizona? Probably. Not from what I'm hearing.

And I'm no Pat McAfee, but I'm hearing things. So what you hearing? I'm hearing and I'm no Pat McAfee but I'm hearing things so what you hearing I'm hearing I'm hearing that well it's not a fucking big secret the NFL

inside the niggas is saying yo Arizona is known historically like OKC and NBA we ain't that's the cap that's it

we ain't doing that the Patriots Patriots don't pay well the Patriots will come to you and get you to rework something one nigga

the Thunder was like the Thunder was like we'll lose James Harden because we're not paying the four million but yeah that's what I'm hearing

about Arizona so I think they have an interesting fight that would make sense because historically they don't really be having too many superstars

nobody to pay yeah yeah this was a year did I miss any of the I beat this I like Philly. I like the Sixers. I love the Sixers.

I like the Sixers against Toronto. I hate when it's a blowout game and I'm at the bar trying to catch a good game. Yeah, I tried to watch the... What was the other game? Bucs game, I think. The Bulls. Bucs-Bulls.

Bad matchup for the Bulls. The Bucs are not playing with anybody. I think it's closer than we think. Which one? The Bulls matchup. And we watched it together. We watched the Bucs-Bulls. The Bucs are not playing with anybody. I think it's closer than we think. Which one? The Bulls matchup. And we watched it together. We watched the Bucs-Bulls. I think that that game could have went either way. Tell the fans how you picked Atlanta to come out the East and why you were wrong. I did.

Tell them that. You always come on in and speak to your brilliance. Speak to an error in your management. I don't want to reveal the errors to us. I thought Atlanta would have been much better than they were this season. I think coming off the championship last year. They're going to say it's because you got family in Atlanta. That's not it, though.

I think they just had the pieces. No, I think they just had the pieces. I think that they was in the championship last year. So I thought that everybody would have matured and their games would have got better. What happens is Trey holds the ball for fucking 90 years And nobody else Really can get involved And nobody else on the team Can create a shot Niggas traded Cam Reddish

He was the only other Nigga name That could really get a shot off On his own Trey be having the ball Dog in his pocket For 24 seconds Hold shot clock

And either he shoots A fucked up three Or they get the little Alley-oop shit When the three not falling They fucked And that's what happened They going home

yeah night night yeah as long as you know no no no in Miami it's that we sleeping on Miami no niggas don't be talking about them they be talking

this Milwaukee Bucks shit and Brooklyn shit Miami out there looking very good they are a very complete team fools go they stay healthy

I like the sixes call me a fool not this year call me a fool I this year Call me a fool I like them too though But I don't have them Going to the finals I just like that

The East is up for grabs In terms of the conference final All of these teams We talking about There's a lot of good teams With the exception of Atlanta And maybe Toronto

Toronto Toronto Have a shot That's true I don't have anything else. If you guys do, the floor is yours. See y'all on tour. Indeed.

And with that said. Now I'm playing this back. Start this over, goddammit. Yeah. They telling me their lucky day is in Houston on our Houston date. Yeah, fuck it.

I feel it, Vicky. Uh-oh. You ain't even got a poet. I don't even need to roll it. You been acting all innocent Got me sitting all up in my feelings Really is you for me, is you with me Wonder how long you be with now

I don't even gotta know it Cause baby you ain't even notice Yeah I'm only trying to focus over love Looking empty, don't judge me Holding on to some things And go get the back, baby I don't care about who's around

I just wanna lay it down I just want you here right now I just wanna lay it down Hear you Make that big girl fuckin' sound To you Make that big fuckin' sound Oh, man Puffin' poppin', I've been rollin' I'm gonna make it sound to you Make that fucking sound

Open Pop and pop and I've been rollin' When I feel like it I'm go, it get real like it Full of vibes like it Pull up, hold my heart Swap it, cut it off Stop it, why would we give it up? Sly and make me feel it I don't care about who's around I just wanna lay it down

I just want you here right now I just wanna lay it down Hear you, make that fuckin' sound to you Make that fuckin' sound Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, I just wanna lay down. I just wanna lay down. Hear you. Make that fucking sound. Hear you.

Make that fucking sound. Let's see what you doing. Y'all had no idea. The whole operation. All right. Ice, what you're doing That's my guy. Nepotism at its finest. Nepotism at its finest. That's what makes the world go round. Somebody about to get shot. This is Pressure by Arsenal. What the fuck was that, Frank? First sentence. You know the feeling when niggas think you dead.

And niggas thought you was dead. And you just hopped out the motherfucking casket on niggas. They thought you was dead. They thought you was dead and you just hopped out the motherfucking casket on niggas They thought you was dead, they thought you was over They thought you was smelling like death They buried you, they put flowers on top of you And you just hopped out the casket on these niggas smelling like life Reinvigorated, reincarnated, reenergized Ready for whatever nigga, there ain't nothing but pressure Popped out the casket on these niggas, you thought I was gay?

Whole nigga, you thought I was dead? Yes, one of the best Pull up, wait a minute, this gon' take a minute If my niggas catch the body, they gon' know that gangstas did it From the belly of the jungle when a lot of apes is in it Your best friend a wearing wire and didn't give a statement And it crib ain't hardly had no food, but we have bullet cable in it Well, we hope to live 33 that's just to say you did it wanna block I stay committed with that clock

I aim to hit it get it poppin shit is shocking They don't think that rain did it niggas counted me out when I was down on my luck So then I found me a joke and started piling it up I went from not having a bitch to come to follow me up To charging bitches in the hood a couple thousand of fuck Now why your hand out? You a man now Doubt shall never beg or stand down But you a fan now You ain't see my vision then You see my vision clear now I run my city

I'm the only thing these bitches hear bout They really trying to turn their backs on me Backs on me, strap on me Walk around with racks on me Fully loaded mag on me Only fan was in the ceiling, full cleft, dropped a bag on me Now these bitches all front row, trying to grab on me TSA Wonder why I fly with a bag on me TSA Wonder why I fly with a bag on me TSA Wonder why I fly with a bag on me TSA Wonder why I fly with a bag on me TSA Wonder why I fly with a bag on me TSA Wonder why I fly with a racks on me, fully loaded mag on me Only fan was in the ceiling, full cleft, dropped a bag on me

Now these bitches all front row, tryna grab on me TSA, wonder why I fly with all this cash on me Mind your fucking business, hoe, I do this shit to brag on me I remember being down bad, I was sad, lonely, pocket slim Feeling like a baby needing cash money, what I'm staying humble for? I'm up now, I hit a nigga with the fuck you flow Your bitch ain't love you, said she love you, but it's fuck you though You showed your heart, we playin' spades, I gotta cut you though

I'ma say this shit loud, fuck, I'm a mongrel foe I leave you flat where you at, just like a underscored Fuck the fame and the name, nigga, I want the dough Bunch of hypocrites, mad, I'm nigga rich This shit ridiculous, huh? This is what I hustle for One time for the floor, R's tell him what you do Just remember who told that talk, man Arsenal, can't spell balls without putting it on This is what I hustle for. One time for the floor. Ars, tell them what you do. Just remember who told that talk, man. Arsenal.

Can't spell balls without putting it on. Nobody talk shit like me. Nobody talk shit like me, baby. It's the floor. All right, Ars. It's pressure. Arsenal. That's going to be the intro off of his new project, Big Jersey 2.

Okay. It's coming, I believe, in June. Sounds like a dope record, man. I'm excited. That's gonna be the intro off of his new project Big Jersey 2 Okay It's coming, I believe in June Sounds like a dope record, man I'm excited I'm gonna play some K-Slay shit, man This is K-Slay, Kendrick Lamar, Mac Miller, Kevin Gates Cold Summer In here with the legendary DJ K-Slay

K-Slay Ain't no trust All my gangsters understand Fuckin' up the premises, I been a dick Ain't beneficial, I'm bout to issue your nemesis Evacuate the building when I come through Evaluate your feelings when I come through Tie your marks and gun smoke stories OGs reminisce and show glory He said, nigga, I'm hoping you make a way out Before I make this Mac 11 do it for me I know responsibility wearing down on my shoulders

Summertime always the coldest Niggas do you dirty like the projects 25 then you are the oldest This is the feeling you get when you ride Till the wheels fall off and there's no more drive I see the thrill when I look in your eyes You should execute or exile and expire Nothing's there, different times But the same old story's told Even when it's warm outside

These streets can't get so cold Gotta love change, this ain't no, and that ain't gonna never change Gotta trust your aim, ain't no trust All my gangsters understand Champagne liquor, pair of babe slippers Blue collar for the dollar, I'm in Pittsburgh Young bet with rings, bitch I'm Derrick Fisher Ballin' super hard, you can smell the swishers

Know when I'm at workin' hard as I do It's like I never even made a fuckin' dollar I'm a genius though, you can check my IQ Y'all lookin' stupid when you pop your fuckin' collar Take a breath, make a toast I seen the devil tryna take my soul But he ain't gon' touch what he can't control This a fool for thought You can get a plate to go Me and Kendrick on the track Man that's bad news

For all you rappers who be talking shit to act a fool Giving bitches a D like we was back in school But that's only if they got that bad attitude It's Cold Summer K Slay Kendrick Lamar, Mac Miller Kevin Gates is also on the track That was hard Rest in peace Slay, man

Rest in peace Slay, rest in peace Mac Miller Rest in peace, yes Ash, what you got for us? Skylar Stecker featuring Tone Stith The song is called What's Good Let's see if he's still fighting or not I just asked man You know how you do

You get to fighting in here I need you deep inside for the night I wanna take it back Make me feel something Baby I want you all in I need your company come close to me I've been waiting patiently Won't you take control of me? Baby, come and bring me And I've been waiting all day

And it's getting so late Don't leave me here lonely Come and have your way Baby, what's good? Tell me what's good Tell me what's good Tell me what's good You know I need that good Show me what's good Show me what's good Baby let's ride around, find a spot

We should go somewhere I'm in you, deep inside, for the night I wanna take you there We could go at night Baby, won't you hold it I want you, want you I need your company, come close to me I've been reading patiently

Won't you take control of me Baby, come and rain on me And I've been waiting all day And it's been getting so late Don't leave me here lonely I've been waiting all day And it's been getting so late Don't leave me here lonely You can have it all Baby, what's good? Tell me what's good, oh You know, oh Lord

You know I need that good Show me what's good Can you please show me, baby, what's good What's good I gotta say, you have a really good eye for talent. You have a really good eye for R&B. Yeah, really good eye for R&B. Can you come clean? That's Skylar Stecker in Toast Tith. What's good?

Just for once, can you come clean on this podcast? Say what? And say how you come up with your sleepers. Yo, everything I say towards you, I see what the fans are saying now. It all sounds like hate. Like, that sounds like hate, but I'm just trying to get a good part. Nah, they said you giving them to them. No. That's what they said

It's not me No he They say that for real Yeah Joe giving him the sleep Nigga Ish is fighting To make the show better He's not but

I get what people are saying And I would never They do sound like your type of shit though I get why they would I like that I like that Yeah I have not stopped playing that

Record I got from Ish the other day Whatever it is I don't remember it Contradiction I have not stopped playing that record I got from Ish the other day. Whatever it is. I don't remember it. Contradiction. I think that's the name of it. No, I'm fucking up. That's my song too much to play around with.

No, that song is different, different. No, he's played a bunch of slaps, man. Yeah, I'm telling you. I think Ish taking a sleep was personally, that's what I think. I'm not doing none of that. Unpredictable. I'm telling you because when he was coming in here, he was playing top 40s, all-time records. Yo, the bar is so low.

We big and ish up for potting better in a year. Nigga, you act like that shit easy. They act like it's easy. That bar ain't low. That's a high ass, that's a stat to do that in a year. This shit ain't easy for two niggas that ain't potted. Tell them. I keep telling them. This is not easy to just come in a year. This shit ain't easy for two niggas that ain't potty. Tell them. I keep telling them.

They don't believe you. This is not easy to just come in here and talk nonstop. Like, we talk a lot. I think you're doing a phenomenal job. I appreciate that, sir. By the way. Y'all want to thank all of y'all for listening out there. I'll be back with some more hate this weekend for sure.

Hopefully my co-host will not step on my hate. It's one of my gifts. That's what we do though. We step on the hate. Yeah, that's my gift. But I wish y'all come in with your own fucking hate.

I'm the big stepper. We'll come in with some love. I do love. I love. Mr. Morale. Kendrick's gonna kill Mr. Morale and the big steppers.

I step on your hate. That's a terrible name. That's a genius name. Morale and the Big Steppers I step on your heat that's a genius name and don't you ever say anything about say his whole name you know who it is he's here now yo because he's a dope artist that's a dope name of a project no let me turn this off now

you piss me off I hate talking I be having to suppress myself no ish when you you in real estate well you and anything you know that when you go somewhere and you run your uh credit report they pull up your history and what you've been able to do have you paid niggas back have you ran off on on the plug? Right? So he gets that from me. His credit score. This is 790.

What's the highest? 800. Yeah. When you pull it up, because of what he's done already, I thought Good Kid, Mad City was some stupid shit. What you doing? I thought the Pimple Butterfly was some stupid shit. What you doing? I thought, damn, what the fuck are you doing?

I've been wrong. It's the same thing about Kanye. Them genius niggas, like musically, you just got to wait and see where they going. I've been super wrong. I've been wrong. I've been wrong. Both of them in particular. So this title sparks intrigues.

It intrigues me. What are you talking about? I miss that from rappers. Remember when rappers had something to say and you only heard it when they were rapping? They didn't tweet it. They didn't InstaLive it. It wasn't YouTubable. Kendrick

is still one of the only niggas that do that. For that, I'm super excited. Ishka tried to step on my excitement all he wants. That's what I love about him. It's him and Cole. You big steppers have a problem. They pop out musically. Whateverically whatever i gotta say i'm saying it here and if i think he's the genius that he is he could have so much fun with this mr morale shit because that's what's going on culturally like he's the person we rely on to speak to what's happening like culturally or even transcending that like that's what he

does everybody don't do that yo we have to pay respect to this guy this is not an ad he didn't pay me I ain't seen this nigga in years but I know he's coming and I know that he's called the boogeyman for me they know he coming to mm-hmm y'all gonna be alright Y'all gon' be alright Keep us in your prayers, Lord knows we need to be there Until the next time I bid you adieu Farewell, adios, arriva, dirci, hasta la vista, au revoir, so long, goodbye Remember life is a series of moments and moments pass

Hey, so let's make this one last as if it's all we have Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy I don't talk about it, be about it, every day a sequel If I got it, then you know you got it, heaven, I can reach you Pet talk, pet talk, pet talk, my dog, that's all Big back in chat, I trap the back for y'all I rap, I black, I'm trash, so rest assured My rights, my wrongs, I'm right till I'm right with God When you know, we've been nerfing down before Nigga, when the crowd was low We've been in this world, let's do what we do

Nigga, and we hate po-po When the killer's dead in the street for sure. Nigga, I'm at the preacher's door. My knees getting weak and my gun might blow but we gon' be alright. Nigga, we gon' be alright. Nigga, we gon' be alright. Yo, the guy that turns this

this type of political statement into like a club record or a jam off of what's considered to be their bad album is like come on yo what you want me to say about this guy shout out to all the greats out there we need y'all we thank y'all and we appreciate y'all we'll be back same time same place this week weekend y'all hold it down out there I remember your face, dark nights and my prayers I remember you was conflicted

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