The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 539 | "I’m Reintroducing Me"

Episode Date: June 4, 2022

The guys return from their vacation and discuss all the new music released (27:35). Joe and the crew share updates on Young Thug's case (1:03:45), Joe goes viral while on vacation (1:19:25), and Nick ...Cannon joins the podcast (2:02:15).   Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things J.B.P.: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks Joe | Arin Ray - “Gold” Ice | Louie Ray - “Turkey Bags” (Ft. Arsonal Da Rebel) Parks | ElCamino - “Who I Am” Ish | Nonso Amadi - “Different” (Ft. Majid Jordan)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I can tell you how you lose it. That's not true. I can tell you how you lose it. No, we do lose it. I can tell you very easily how you lose it. Audience, everyone here is well-rested. Amazing what one pot off will do. Boy, everyone prepared, alert, aware.
Starting point is 00:00:14 Salutations to y'all. Glad y'all could be here with us. Now, yes, we lose it. I'm shutting up. I'll let y'all have the fight. I disagree. We started with outside, inside again. It's been a consistent thing as i've been
Starting point is 00:00:25 attacking and provoking and antagonizing ice with i have been i also asked the gentleman off air to let me know if i'm pushing too hard on air so i could be a bit more mild is that true right no that's true you did you did ask yes nigga nigga what i had i learned that okay I learned that I learned that I'm high I went and learned that hey he can push hard sometimes so yeah that was dope
Starting point is 00:00:50 and y'all said no so I'm just gonna go harder I'm gonna just go harder now with you niggas now but
Starting point is 00:00:58 yeah so it's been pretty split I've been getting attacked on both ends I've been getting attacked all vacation but who cares fuck you niggas
Starting point is 00:01:04 nah you was turning up on the internet this week. We'll get there. We'll get there. That's the first thing he said to me. I seen you on the ground. You know why it's funny. You know why it's funny. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:01:18 You know exactly why. I don't know why. Oh, you're talking about? Yeah, we all know why. Because you said you wasn't. And I told you. Yes, you are. You went Yeah. We all know why. Because you said you wasn't. And I told you. Yes, you are. You went crazy.
Starting point is 00:01:28 I saw two pictures. He said he wasn't doing nothing on the gram. And I said, that's a lie. No, he said, y'all might chew y'all a little bit up. I only saw two pictures. No, I'm saying me. Hold me down. I only saw two pictures.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Hold me down. He did say, y'all might. Hold me down. It was more than two pictures. Audience, to those of you that are new here I can be polarizing To those of you that are new Word
Starting point is 00:01:53 So what Ish is saying Is true I had this talk already Niggas like Oh you gone crazy No I didn't I posted Two pics
Starting point is 00:02:03 And they went crazy That's what I said I only saw two Three They went dumb No, I didn't. I posted two pics. And they went crazy. That's what I said. I only saw two. Three. They went dumb. Blogs went crazy. I had a clip loaded to go crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:17 I was ready to go crazy. But they went too crazy. So then I was like, oh, nah, y'all doing a lot. Y'all doing a lot. Now, they think piecing it out. I'm just trying, you know what I mean? Get comfy a little bit. Y'all going crazy. So you only posted two pics the entire time.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Is that what you're saying? Yes. No, you know the pics. You told me to stop it, yo. Okay. You know the pics. I'm just making sure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Oh, you posted more than two. I only saw two. I posted food, the beach. But that's what I said. I was like, I know you're going to give them some big. I said, you're going to give them some food. Oh, you posted more than two. I only saw two. I posted food, the beach. But that's what I said. I was like, I know you're going to give them some break. I said, you're going to give them some food. You're going to give them this. Grabbing some titty on a yacht.
Starting point is 00:02:53 But that's when I was like, a lot of y'all must be new to, do y'all know who I am? Yeah, that's mild for you. That's not going crazy. I don't think, I think that as people have aged and grown and like matured, you got to reintroduce yourself to people sometimes, yo. Do y'all know who the fuck? What did y'all think I was doing all these years on vacation when I wasn't posting? What y'all thought? Just imagine it to yourself.
Starting point is 00:03:22 That was mad mouth. They don't understand that niggas eat ass on the balcony on vacation. Dog, I once changed my Twitter avi to me doing something that I won't even say today because of the businessman that I am. You was wild. Are you shitting me? I had just no type of respect for branding. Well, that was your brand at the time. It's not your brand if you ain't getting no money from it.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Well, you're on a couple shows because of it. Nah, I didn't have control of the edit. Well, true. Not the first time around anyway. You don't want to be in that position as an entertainer, where you find out with the rest of the world. No, hell no. But yeah, no, Ish, we lose the inside-outside thing to Ice,
Starting point is 00:04:14 because man, them niggas is inside. Everyone's inside now. No, I just think that people... And it's deeper than that. I'll tell you, I wasn't even saying that. That's not even what I was saying. I disagree. I'll tell you real quick.
Starting point is 00:04:23 I think people hear what they want to hear. Okay. And they'll flip your story's not even what I was saying. I disagree. I'll tell you real quick. I think people hear what they want to hear. Okay. And they'll flip your story. You get what I'm saying? And I'm reading it now. You could say, oh, yo, I like blue over yellow. Uh-huh. Oh, nigga, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:04:38 You don't like yellow? Nobody said I don't like yellow. I said I like blue over yellow. Yo, yellow be... And people will create what they want to create from it of course what our initial argument was is we were engulfed in a culture and we were outside to live the culture niggas like oh y'all ain't street niggas y'all niggas nobody said one thing about street shit you get what i'm saying like people take what they want
Starting point is 00:05:04 to take from it so when you when you when you really take about what we said we said yo if you were not outside you did not feel certain facets of hip-hop the way niggas felt it that was outside living it being around it 24 7 and consumed by it they took it and ran the shit into drugs and streets and guns stop right there you took it there too you know because you started streets and guns. No, no, no, no, stop right there. Get a mice. You took it there, too. Get a mice. Because you started sitting there saying, come on, you wasn't in the store.
Starting point is 00:05:30 You ain't used to steal this out the store, slay this up your sleeve. That's different from fucking running a drug cartel. No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about a whole different conversation. No, that went from inside out. That was all in that conversation, bro. Cool.
Starting point is 00:05:41 That's all I'm saying. You knew your bag. You started saying, because I was an inside person, I missed out on this. Oh, you rode to school. You didn't walk. You didn't do this. You made it seem like my entire. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I know I did. Oh, okay. I told y'all that. Y'all didn't know that. It's a cultural. But hold up. Y'all didn't know that. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:06:01 We talking about that. I'm talking about it's a cultural bonding that comes along especially with little boys that play in the park that play outside that have little fights as little kids growing up it's a cultural bonding thing more so than any street shit versus whatever that's what i'm talking about you get in the mischief when you're a kid it's certain shit you do as a little boy and i think that you should experience as a little boy that molds you as a little kid my nigga you in a house all day looking at fucking video games you are missing out on mad shit nobody said it had to be yo we over here stealing cars versus being in the house and niggas will take it to that extreme
Starting point is 00:06:42 yoga we all have young children right indeed yes would you want your children to grow up like you did certain facets yes and certain facets no it's not that complete of it's not a black and white question and that's my point it's not either one side of the spectrum or the other it's a middle tyson's point in this question, taking our kids out of this, the majority of the kids today in the demo of 18 to 28, how many of them would you say are like us versus like Ice? The field is like Ice.
Starting point is 00:07:18 It's much more like us. It was because everything evolved. It's not true. You don't think the field is like us? That's a demo question. No, that's a demo question no that's a demo question but we're talking about a young demo no but when i say demographics demographics is more than age i tease ice because these little kids in that demo nigga you are my age and you was getting a ride
Starting point is 00:07:35 to school that is true that's why i tease you but but i do know that those people and have they have the field you know what's funny, too? I saw this chart. Because they go, what is it? Generation X, Generation Z, Millenniums, all that shit, right? We ain't in the same demo. Millennials started 81. So I'm not in. And it went from 81 to something like that.
Starting point is 00:07:58 You close enough. That's what you know. Hey, look. I got semantics with Semantic Man. That's exactly what I did. You are correct. That's what I did. That is correct. That's what I did. That is correct.
Starting point is 00:08:06 You did. I learned from the best, so I have to shoot it back a little bit. We are in the same ballpark. My thing is this. Boy, let me jump in a little bit. You would have went to high school at the same time. Let me jump in a little bit. To me, it's the same age.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Wait, what'd you say? You would have went to high school at the same age. Yeah, same age. You and Ice would have been the same age. I know, I know. Same time. That's how I judge same ageness. I went to high school in 90.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Carried a one. Fuck was I saying? Y'all are three years apart, so you would have been in high school together. Yeah, y'all would have been in high school at the same time. Yes. You would have. For real? Yes. When I was a senior, what he would have been?
Starting point is 00:08:35 Freshman. Sophomore. Sophomore. Food, right? No. Sophomore. Sophomore. A sandwich, you think?
Starting point is 00:08:42 Freshman. A slice. That's like me and my friends. sophomore. Yo. A sandwich, you think? Freshman. Yeah, no, freshman. A slice. That's like me. That's like me and Ars. Cool. Alex. I was a senior. Ars was a freshman.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Oh, and called your favorite hoagie. Yo, I'm totally down to let one of you niggas punch me in the face on air, too. Oh, yeah. Yo, I'm that for the content. Yo, but listen. Wait, no, listen. I'm that for the content yo but listen wait no listen I watched the director this morning
Starting point is 00:09:06 say he and I wish I had saved the clip but stupid me but he was talking about why
Starting point is 00:09:17 damn what was he saying director of what do you remember what he was no I don't remember but he was a director of some shit I wish what he's no okay i don't remember but he was a director of some shit i wish i had the clip but i don't but he was made he was jumping in the argument that
Starting point is 00:09:32 they're having about you know what marvel is doing to uh movies to comic books to hollywood and yeah movies and yeah cinema yeah And what he was saying was... Was it... What's my man's name? Scorsese? Because he's been against them for a minute. Yeah, but this gentleman was not against that. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:56 This gentleman was not. But what he did acknowledge was the culture of Hollywood, and this is happening in music and all across the board the culture is taking a hit and the actual creators and like the theatrical and the plays and that type of stuff uh is totally forgotten about now because all that matters is bottom line your balance sheet so if that's all we're looking at now then yeah you're gonna get the movie that brings in a gazillion a gazillion dollars but what was the memorable line from it what did it do for the culture 20, 30 years from now?
Starting point is 00:10:45 Right. So he was saying that I think that that's happening in music as well. Yeah, I was going to say that's all entertainment. And I think that that somewhere is in the core of my inside versus outside argument. and things are being marketed and you just are getting it from all over the place, you're getting it from places that feed it to you
Starting point is 00:11:08 from all over the place. So yeah, you're getting it. And you're getting it more than we could have ever got it. So, right, I could only have dreamt to this day when I was the nigga getting 100 CDs for 99 cents.
Starting point is 00:11:23 You know what I'm saying? Columbia House. I was taping off the radio. I was in. I'm collecting TV guides, yo. Who knew where this shit was about to go? Columbia House. Columbia House and BMG.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah. So, yeah. Brand it up. You dreamt of a day where you answer your phone and could look at the dude on the other side. Like, you dreamt of that back then. So, it's here now. That's Jetson shit to us. Yeah, and that was the Jetsons. If you look at the Jetsons now, that shit don't look so then. So it's here now. That's Jetson shit to us. Yeah, and that was the Jetsons.
Starting point is 00:11:45 If you look at the Jetsons now, that shit don't look so futuristic. Nah, shit ain't terrible. And that's the thing. If the screen come down, you can see who you're talking to. That's Jetson shit. I get from what Ish is saying, that cultural bonding shit that he talking about is just cultural shit around the board when it comes to experience. So mass consumption doesn't really equate to that. How do you get a best friend
Starting point is 00:12:07 if you can't go outside? They do. Listen to my question. On the internet, they actually do. In just my question, how the fuck do you get friends, best friends and close friends if you can't go outside?
Starting point is 00:12:20 You want to see Instagram, that green circle? That's your close friend right there. And they're not friends. I'm playing with you. No, but no. So that's my thing. Like you experience. No, no, I can't roll with that. You can't say that. You can't see Instagram That green circle That's your close friend Right there And they're not friends I'm playing with you No but no So that's my thing Like you experienced
Starting point is 00:12:27 No no I can't I can't roll with that I can't say that I can't roll with that I've seen some I've met quality I've made friends I've made real relationships
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yes From online Yeah Got you And we was there When that was taboo You was a weirdo for that You had the line
Starting point is 00:12:41 That I'm meeting a girl online Word is warm You could not tell nobody You met this chick online. No, I did. But think about this, though. Now, you meet this dude online. Y'all hanging out.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Y'all cool. You really don't know this nigga's moral compass. And then when you get your ass booked by three niggas and he takes off running, when you grow up with somebody, you know who the sucker that's going to run. You know the nigga that's going to run you know the niggas that's going to but how do you know experience
Starting point is 00:13:06 but I'm just saying experience but it's experience at a different level but I experienced some of these kids since I grew up with them but listen
Starting point is 00:13:12 listen to what you're saying right you get into it if three of us got into it and you I take off running right at that moment
Starting point is 00:13:19 you know ice ain't built for that if don't matter how we met we 25 just hear me out Just hear me out. Just hear me out. We meet on the internet,
Starting point is 00:13:28 all three of us. Link up. We cool. We go to the spot. We doing this, that, and the third. And the same shit happens and the same person
Starting point is 00:13:34 take off running. You're still getting the experience. You are correct. It's just at a different, because the times have changed. You are correct. There's more factors involved.
Starting point is 00:13:43 And listen, that's y'all. Hold up, time out, Joe. No, y'all go back. Let me just understand. Y'all niggas that link with three people from the internet? Nah, this should be like a cap of internet people allowed to meet up at once. So the difference is not the times.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Ice, you 38 years old. 31. You grew up in an era when that wasn't an option for you. You grew up in an era where being outside is how you met friends. Nigga, you act like I went to school. I had met friends in school-ish. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:14:12 You still were. There's mad kids out there without friends right now. I believe that. That too. Because they don't come outside. I don't even think it's just that. But what I'm saying is this. So our conversation was about hip-hop
Starting point is 00:14:23 and how Ice received hip hop versus how we receive hip hop. And we have a million things to get to. So that's what I was saying. Outside, some shit, you got it from being outside. The feeling, the emotion and all that shit. People saying, yo, you can experience emotion in your house. Yeah, you could.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I just think it's different. We're in agreeance there. It is a difference. If you had my big brother, you could feel the emotion in the house. Yeah, you could. I just think it's different. It is. We're in agreeance there. It is a difference. If you had my big brother, you could feel the emotion in that house. There's a difference. I thought mommy said
Starting point is 00:14:51 you was making dinner tonight, nigga. Hey, Ish. What the hell? Ish, it is a difference. All I'm saying is the way you, just because you experience it one way,
Starting point is 00:15:02 doesn't, I don't have nothing to do with it. It don't invalidate your experience. That's all I kept trying to tell you and you were saying the opposite. Yes, it do because you didn it one way doesn't, I don't have nothing to do with it. And don't invalidate your experience. That's all I kept trying to tell you and you were saying the opposite. Yes, it do because you didn't live this. You didn't feel these lyrics.
Starting point is 00:15:10 No, what he's saying to you is, well, yeah, you have a great credit score, but you also have no credit history. Or, yeah,
Starting point is 00:15:20 like the niggas that feel, the little Chicago niggas that feel dirt music. Right. You don't think they feel it different than you? Absolutely. That's my point. But I said the same shit.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I'm, we are in agreeance. So now I'm going to take back my stance. I think Ice would love to feel it. They're feeling. Yeah, I don't want to feel that shit. Bullet free. Are you crazy? And shoot out free.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Yeah. So let me, I'm going to take back what I just said. That's why they like being in the house. Yes, nigga. I think they. Sleepy shit in the house. The shit that they feel is more relevant than your feelings.
Starting point is 00:15:50 That's my opinion. That's my opinion. And the response to that is they are in the minority to the niggas that's in the house today consuming hip hop. And what's going to happen when... The people that are outside
Starting point is 00:16:04 talking that shit that you talking about yeah the outside niggas like that the numbers getting smaller that's why hip hop is a joke cause there aren't no more rappers everybody is
Starting point is 00:16:12 what they are and the spectators are just in the house watching y'all soaking it up yeah that's corny yo
Starting point is 00:16:22 that's corny that's something parts trash there we go look at his show you do anything you put your mind to you really help you heard anomaly for real says that a compliment says that you can't can't compliment it all right let's intro this, Joe. Come on, man. Mike Miggy D, Miggy D, Miggy D. Let's get to it. I'm still on. Hey, yo. It's off.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I'll tell you. What'd you say? I'll tell you. I was up in an amp battle. Your amp wasn't that hot down there, yo. Go ahead, though. That just bought you to it. Yeah, yo. Go ahead. God damn Nah you got me
Starting point is 00:17:09 You got me with that new shit Alright boy Please expand I know I was listening to you The other day I was saying yo You need some help Maybe cause he was on an island
Starting point is 00:17:17 You know A little vacay First of all Shout out to WAMP gang Y'all already know The fucking vibes Y'all already know What we on.
Starting point is 00:17:25 You have me? Ish. Rubbing your margarita or something. What's going on with this guy? Nah, you just intro'd the pod, so it brought me back. So you ain't like how I was giving it up? It was all right. It wasn't that, though?
Starting point is 00:17:39 Yeah. You was in your car listening like, damn, I could do better than him. I texted you and said, yo, you need some help? Let me know. Remember? Damn. I didn't see your texts on vacation. Well, I could do better than him. I texted you and said, yo, you need some help? Let me know. Remember? Damn. I didn't see your texts on vacation. Well, in case you weren't live, you asked.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I didn't see it. I know. That was, no, I'm sleeping. That was somebody else's. I'm sure he had the phone. That wasn't even, I think I'm reading your texts on vacation. See, but you wasn't in the vibe I was in, though. I wasn't outside.
Starting point is 00:18:00 You wasn't. I wasn't outside with the wind breeze. You knew you was building a house sweating talking to your staff of workers hey did you get the wrench from up there whatever the fuck y'all be saying
Starting point is 00:18:11 in contractor world you got it yeah yeah yeah alright now now I'ma crack your muffin on Monday please Monday yo each and every
Starting point is 00:18:19 hold up man hold up man hold up hold up hold up you pissing me off you're not wrecking each and every Monday 5pm to 7pm Hold up, man. Hold up. Hold up, hold up. You're pissing me off. You're not wrecking me. Each and every Monday, 5 PM to 7 PM.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Some of y'all already know what I do. Some don't, like this gentleman right here, like this brother. For the ones that problem in the black community right here. Mic check one, two, one, two, fresh from vacay, skin peeling, and all. What up, dog? Some people came through a day out. Shake happens to be one of them.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Thank you very much. Talk about growth and progression from project to project. Shout out to 070J. Shout out to 070J. Nah, it's really him, yo. Hold up. From project to project, shout out to 07Ocean. Nah, it's really him, yo. Hold up. That shit got you. I'm here today, yo.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Huh? I said that comment got you feeling away. It's talking shit like that. The night, yo, can a dog bark at the moon? He can. Oh my god. Does the moon care? Who fuck with that? I'm mooning on issues.
Starting point is 00:19:29 All right, we got shit to get to. I also think we have a guest today. Sniper Hall of Fame. In it go. shit to get to I also think we have a guest today sniper Hall of Fame any day you want to see me any day I don't hear from you unless it's pod day that let me know who I be I don't hear from you I don't see you you know where I live I mean you can pull up at any time And get smoked What was that little line I said before the pod started? Oh, I'm loyal when I peace it up
Starting point is 00:20:12 I'm loyal to the peace up Loyal to the peace up, yo But I'm loyal to starting some shit up too I'm so conflicted as a man and a human. They had a real hot day in New York. Glad I missed that shit. I want nothing to do with them 100 degree days. Yo, my summer's over, by the way.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Two of them. My summer's over. I'm sitting there. Yeah, no. No. She was miserable, yo. Yo, my summer's over, by the way. Two of them. My summer's over. I'm sitting down. Yeah, no. No. She was miserable, yo. Yeah, no. I got you, but you never got me I was staying here with no phone call There's no more guilty gadgets There's no more guilty gadgets Microphone check, one, two, what is this? Welcome to episode, I don't remember. 539, I think?
Starting point is 00:21:40 Welcome to episode 539 of the Joe Budden Podcast. I'm Joe Budden. Hi to everybody out there. How are you? Hey, Joe. Hope everybody had an amazing week. Hope everyone is kind, well, healthy,
Starting point is 00:21:53 wealthy, or stable at least. Hope everyone's mental health is great out there. I hope niggas that owe y'all money pay it back. I hope they pay it back this week. You might get that call. That call will brighten your day.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Probably not. But you might get it. You might get it. What else? What else? I hope Shorty that you're still thinking about. I hope that she might send that text this weekend when it's night sound. She won't.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Got a nice. You just don't. She linking and drinking, bro. Life is nothing without hope, you guys. That's true. You could hope that these things happen.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah. So I want to wish, well wishes to everyone. How many times someone owed you money and they called you? A few times. It's happened.
Starting point is 00:22:41 It's rare. It's rare. It's rare though. It's rare. A few times for me. I know a few real niggas. I know a few. I know a lot of y'all that ain't.
Starting point is 00:22:49 I know right there. And I'm here to talk about it. And I'm here to talk about it. We're going to address some shit today. How was everyone's week? Vacation, huh? Time off. Time off.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Staycation. Round of applause for time off. Staycation. Stayed right here. Chilled out. Chilled out. Yeah. It was hot. AC on. Yeah. Chilled. Did some grilling, though. You know what Ication. Round of applause for time off. Staycation. Stayed right here. Chilled out. You know shit? Yeah. It was hot.
Starting point is 00:23:06 AC on. Yeah. Chilled. Did some grilling though. You know what I mean? It don't count if it stay. It's called staycation, not vacation. No, it counts.
Starting point is 00:23:11 No, that shit count more than a vacation sometimes. The staycation is lit. Man, that piece just, that count, bro. Fuck that. Wife was out of town, so it was super quiet. You won. I won. You won? I won staycation
Starting point is 00:23:26 Yeah Yeah you won Okay What'd you do Ish? I was sick So I was in the house But I'm gonna take my feet Being in some blue water
Starting point is 00:23:34 Over Stan Myers At home any day of the week I got some You be outside That's why What kind of sick was you man? I got the little test subs dude We gotta swab you dad
Starting point is 00:23:41 Nah I got one Gucci though? No Everything good? Everything Just a little Stop looking Just a little bad salmon or something? upstairs. We got to swap you down. Gucci though? Everything good? Just a little bad salmon or something? You got any STDs? I don't have those swaps. What you doing?
Starting point is 00:23:56 A little Q-tip to tell him. A little Q-tip right in the edge. I'm glad I never had to get that one. Is it pussy in there? Oh! Listen, everybody didn't wake up and piss right.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Nah, it's fact. Nah, yeah. Some of these woke up right. And shout out to y'all. I still want y'all to listen to podcasts too. I don't come in here
Starting point is 00:24:15 discriminating against no body, just a couple. Don't hit the clinic, man. One little pill knocked that thing right out. Yeah, listen. Hey, I know how it be.
Starting point is 00:24:22 She was fine, right? I put her on a shot. It's a pill now. She was fine enough to make you say no. She's taking care of herself. Come on. I'm just glad I never lived to the era where you had to get swabbed. Huh?
Starting point is 00:24:35 Yeah. They used to have to go down the toll. When there was only a certain way to take some of these tests, yeah. Yeah. Shout out to evolution, man. Yeah. Shout out to my ignorance. I don't know nothing
Starting point is 00:24:49 about that, man. The Q-tip? What? You did that before? Did what? Somebody put a Q-tip in your... You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:56 No, nigga. You don't know if you got an STD if you never go to the doctor. Look, look, look. I'm not going there, but I don't know when she find out. Yo, yo. Don't go over there to I don't know when she When she find out
Starting point is 00:25:05 When she get up and Yo, yo Go over there I ain't cheap You good? Yo, you good? Go ahead Alright, there we go
Starting point is 00:25:12 Yo You straight, right? This is for comedic relief, yo Go get tested You know what I mean? Be safe You know what I mean? Yo
Starting point is 00:25:21 That's a lot of status That's a lot of status Yo, you should know your status You should know your status I'm kidding be safe you know what I mean yo that's a good joke that's a lot of me sir yo hood niggas is terrible bro you should know your status you should know your status I'm kidding the problem is
Starting point is 00:25:29 they take me for real yeah know your status duh fuck clean chicks yo dog hood men is terrible
Starting point is 00:25:42 yo Ice is so cute yo oh man one day I'm gonna start my pod soon what the fuck I do Yo, Ice is so cute, yo. Oh, man. One day, I'm going to start my pod soon. What? The fuck I do? Yo, some of that shit you had coming through Total was a mess, yo. I ain't going to hold you. Nigga, some of the shit a lot of niggas had coming through Total was a mess.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I know, which is why everybody keep their shit a little secret. You're my little secret. Yeah, no, I've seen it. Everyone threw their dick in the dirt at some point, man. See, that's where we got to draw a little line. Sorry. No, that's not true for everybody. No, because it's some shit. Don't sit there and say nine fucker one thousand yes but yes but
Starting point is 00:26:31 prior to be like there was one in particular that you were sitting there yo yo yeah i'm gonna go up here take her and this is this and then after nine fucker i got no way i keep trying to put that one but i know what you're talking about. Yo, stop, yo. Phil, I was that's how you know my jersey is up there, yo. You said that. You said that to me.
Starting point is 00:26:51 You have to stop that. You asked me to take the front so you could you know what's funny about that? Because when I say to him if we on Patreon what the hell is
Starting point is 00:26:59 happening right now? You started it. No, because you know what's funny about that? When I say, yo, call that girl like the girl will tell you know what's funny about that when I say yo call that like the girl
Starting point is 00:27:08 will tell you that that's bullshit niggas always say niggas always say that right there but there's been other instances
Starting point is 00:27:13 where the girl said you popped and you said you did I don't know of them normally when they lie on you it's not to you it's to you
Starting point is 00:27:23 who's trying to fuck you know they lie to you yo i don't even want to be a fly on your phone wall that nigga he's listen what y'all want to talk about man where we at where we at with this where where are we at we're gonna start with music what what's up i'm asking i don't know what you want to start with. Big album came out today. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Big album came out.
Starting point is 00:27:48 One of the big boys. I mean, we missed a lot of news with the day off. Ah, right. We missed a lot of news. There's plenty that we have to cover. I mean, if you don't want to start with music, it's fine. We don't have to. I could put the little effect on your voice and make you sound like a lamb, too, if you want.
Starting point is 00:28:05 You can try anything to keep from starting with music, huh? Let's start music. Clarice. Come on, go ahead, man. Yo, that's funny, dog. The 12-carat toothache is out. I know a lot of y'all don't even know that, but yeah, Post Malone's album dropped. Oh, it was a secret album?
Starting point is 00:28:23 No. Aaron Ray album in store in your phone too right now. What the fuck is Aaron Ray? And that shit all right too? That shit all right. It's Aaron Ray. I got through about five, six songs. Go ahead, yo.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Get your shit off, yo. Because I'm not going to interrupt y'all. No, I can't suppress no podcaster's thoughts, clearly. I don't have thoughts. I'm just saying that, no, Parks, it wasn't a secret album. It was announced. It was supposedly a big single. Do y'all even know Posty?
Starting point is 00:28:51 No. No. No. You know him? You want to call him and ask him what happened? But what happened with what? Sometimes the label be right.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Damn. Yo. Yo. It's going gonna grow on you Fuck That was fucked up It can't grow on you Huh?
Starting point is 00:29:12 It don't have to You know why I don't fuck with partners? Why? Let me tell you I'm listening I want to know Cause you gonna turn the Cause you gonna turn the air on?
Starting point is 00:29:22 Oh yeah It is Africa That's why I don't fuck with him. Well, that's why. I'm going to be sweating. I'm getting pink in this motherfucker, yo. No, you just pink, nigga. I'm turning purple, then.
Starting point is 00:29:33 No, I don't fuck with Parks because he don't have that same venom. He's not that same honest venom when it's backpacker time, to be honest. No, no, I can't do that because he killed that Black Star album like he was supposed to. Quick, too. He did. That is true. Quick.er time to be honest. No, I can't do that. He killed that Blackstar album. Quick, we had to remind him. Ice did remind him.
Starting point is 00:29:51 No, we made him say it on air. But immediately, oh, that's what you're getting at? And now, this is just top of the list. Because Posty. But Post Malone is news. Yeah, this is Post Malone. Not even on DSPs.
Starting point is 00:30:07 No fuckers even hear that shit. It's just on one app. All right, fine, man. Fine. Fine. You caping for your guy? I'm asking. It's okay if you are.
Starting point is 00:30:21 There's nothing wrong with that. I cape for mine. It's a joint on here. How many songs on there, Alex, roll down? The problem is, it's 14. Nah, it might be two joints. It might be two joints. It's one and a half, at least.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Yeah, at least one and a pop, and I'll get the board. If you got a good partner, you might make board. If you got one and a pop. I was about to say, one and a possible, y'all shot. Nah, you're one in a pop.
Starting point is 00:30:45 With my two in a pop, we might can make board. Yeah, that's board. But where's the two in a pop coming from? It's 13 books. He got 14 songs. The fuck is going on here, bro? Y'all don't allow artist grace ever either, yo. That's another thing about y'all that I don't be liking, yo.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Like, why somebody got a hit every time at bat? Aaron Judge leading the league in, like, fucking game-winning grand slams
Starting point is 00:31:14 or home runs. Something stupid. He out there bugging the Yankees. Boy, did y'all... Oh, man. And they let Joe Girardi go from the Phillies.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Anyway. What am I saying So you said You don't have to Hit it out the park Yeah But he gonna go up there And strike out sometimes Man
Starting point is 00:31:31 And they ain't had no promotion He ain't had no label support They might have Shrunk his budgets He busy doing Some other shit This shit ain't good Stop bro
Starting point is 00:31:40 Stop You gotta stop Let's just Let's just look Let's just look at the features He's still him though You got Roddy You got Doja Cat The Weeknd Stop it yo No no let's just let's just let's just look at the features he's still him though you got Roddy you got Doja Cat
Starting point is 00:31:46 The Weeknd stop it yo no no let's just stick with those three for a second nothing against Gunna you have Roddy Ricch Doja Cat and The Weeknd
Starting point is 00:31:55 which are arguably this is a festival headliner project yo you making me mad yo I gotta be honest you're not supposed to fuck up a Doja Slap today? you're not supposed to fuck up a Doja Slap.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Today? You're not supposed to fuck that up. I like the weekend record. Yo, y'all going to make me cave in a way I don't want to cave. Just the great Potter in me is just going to jump out. No, well, you're going to do that anyway. Ice, if you have a Doja feature right this second, how does it go?
Starting point is 00:32:28 Ice is not Post Malone, Joe. so then i won't allow him to say yo you ain't thought that fact i'm gonna tell you get the fuck out of here he's saying post malone is not yes that's what i'm saying and i'm saying that doja cat like post malone once was is a label darling, A++ position at the label. So yeah, I'm sure that when things were merrier, there were plans for that. That tells you that. But guess what? A phone call got made. Somebody said something they shouldn't have said.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Somebody asked for too much. Somebody said, I'm out. Fuck, it went bad. And now your single, which you're a hit, is going to sit in the fucking dust. He ain't the first one to fall victim to that. Let's take it off of that. I told you, though.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Single was the record featuring The Weeknd. No, but bigger than that. Start there. But we were saying this about The Weeknd before Post was even coming. I'm just saying that you could see that there's something at play here. They're stepping on
Starting point is 00:33:26 niggas releases. Absolutely. Hey, yo, y'all bugger. Because the release ain't all that. No. Either, look, either I just don't like it.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Hold on, hold on. Now y'all sounding like I'm caping now. I don't want to do that. Hold on, hold on. Because y'all making me mad. Hold on, hold on. If you are the label,
Starting point is 00:33:41 y'all are the label, and that's why I hate this side of the room. If y'all are the label, let's talk for real. Let's do it. And I'm y'all are the label and that's why I hate this out of the room if y'all are the label let's talk for real let's do it and I'm y'all artist yeah
Starting point is 00:33:46 and for four albums I have hit that shit 600 feet out true and now I went and made some mint but y'all heard it first y'all are hearing it first and y'all don't believe in it
Starting point is 00:33:58 yeah y'all don't believe in it no it's not good y'all are right yeah gotcha what are y'all doing
Starting point is 00:34:04 in that position y'all go back to gotcha what are y'all doing in that position y'all go back to the lab and cook another one and you can't and you can't come out until we think you have one yeah
Starting point is 00:34:12 same for you no let me ask you a question you didn't answer mine yet no I'm gonna is it the same as what Park said I like that I like the answer
Starting point is 00:34:19 I'm gonna give him one I'll say that you're not there yet bro see I think that's wild so let me ask you this now labels do that though let me ask you this I know but it's wild
Starting point is 00:34:25 when they do and the artists speak up every time that's what the fuck Meek just said why you think that's wild Meek just cause Meek just said
Starting point is 00:34:31 Smurda said it everybody said it you can't do that Joe the problem is the artists are now knowing this ain't like back in the day some of these artists know what they are
Starting point is 00:34:41 making for you some of them do you can't do that so Meek says, y'all, I gave you four albums. I made you fucking X amount of, however many,
Starting point is 00:34:50 hundreds or whatever. I brought y'all Roddy. This is what he said. Remember when we talked about all of this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the label says, you know what? Yeah, that is,
Starting point is 00:34:59 welcome to the label. Yeah, but I just don't. What have you done for me lately? No, no, no. I can't argue with y'all because y'all are right The label does that I just don't think
Starting point is 00:35:06 It's right when that happens You cheating Know why Because this is what you be doing You'll flip flop Contingent upon where you are In that food chain If me and Ice came up here
Starting point is 00:35:18 And we potted our asses off For six months And then me and Ice felt like Yo we did a good job Six months of potting, but now we're going to give you some bullshit for a month, two, three months. That's not okay with you.
Starting point is 00:35:30 You can't say, yo, y'all had a run for a year, now it's cool, but now y'all could give me mid when y'all feel like giving me mid and look back and say, yo, but we bust our ass for a year. You can't say that. Can I respond to that directly? Absolutely. How many mid episodes do you think, I think think you and ice have delivered in a year a bunch but you would be guessing right yeah but you would be guessing
Starting point is 00:35:56 because you don't know right sure and you don't know because i've never said right now what i can say is this hold up let me finish that's And I say And there's mad reasons Why that Let me go It's different With you and the label Because with the label They have zero to do
Starting point is 00:36:14 With his Well let me take that back Because I don't know that to be true Absolutely If me you're A better example would be Me saying Yo whatever y'all want to talk about
Starting point is 00:36:22 In the pod Send it to me first Let me see it And then say no Yeah True Alright And would I ever do that No but no would be me saying, yo, whatever y'all want to talk about in the pod, send it to me first. Let me see it. And then saying no. Yeah. True. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:28 And would I ever do that? No, but no. No. Because you think that we could create whatever out of any topic. Cool. What I'm saying now is with him...
Starting point is 00:36:37 Well, and y'all, y'all own men. So I ain't going to say, hey, yo, even though you feel like that, don't say that here. But no, with him, it's a product
Starting point is 00:36:43 that you're trying to sell. As is he. True. He didn't go in there trying to make something that don't say that here but no with him it's a product that you're trying to sell as is he true he didn't go in there trying to make something that wouldn't sell he tried cool and I appreciate that
Starting point is 00:36:54 and this is where my and there are artists that go in and do the fluff bullshit I'm not trying the fans gonna get some bullshit and sell it how you want
Starting point is 00:37:01 and that's the end of my contract he did go in and try so don't say it wasn't good you're right so you can't say that he might have did that his slap with doja yo i told y'all based on the label because even if the label didn't market your product accordingly even if they didn't put the budget behind your shit like they should have you are an artist and you have a level features on your shit y'all could get in there and creatively get busy regardless of
Starting point is 00:37:26 your marketing budget and when the world hears it, they like, oh shit. That is false. There is certainly a possibility. That's why I was going to say something like I'm caping. Stop it, stop it, stop it. I disagree with that. Because people have to know that that is false and you're getting more and more artists to come out and tell you and managers
Starting point is 00:37:41 and behind the scenes execs to come out and tell you just how much it costs to get a record going and to continue a record to go so yeah you did that on the creative side it's you right he got with doja you you a top act i'm a top act we put it together guess what if that label don't think that this is it not spending to put that nowhere and then niggas on and sitting on the couch gonna say yo how you get with doja and fail my god man easy to get with doja and fail if the people at the top don't believe in it ain't fucking with it wouldn't give me a release date i wouldn't have to stomp my feet and clearly before this post malone talk i was on this point you said it artists are going through something with with labels it. A lot of them.
Starting point is 00:38:25 A lot of them are coming out talking about it. It's getting bad. It's like ironing me even being the guy to deliver that message. It's getting bad. But the crazy part to me is, yo, you're talking about business versus creativity. We have to, right? No, listen. I heard your point.
Starting point is 00:38:40 I'm saying this. If the label didn't put no money behind your shit, zero. Then you fail. See, now you're talking about business. I'm talking about creativity. Even if the label didn't put no money behind your shit, and me and you put out a dope-ass project, once niggas start to hear the project... Stop right there.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Real quick. Let him finish his point. Once niggas start to hear the project, they like, oh, shit, there's some shit on there. Y'all never heard some shit? I was like, damn, there's some shit on there. They write down what? Hold on, hold on, hold on. They write down the sales that they think word of mouth will bring you back.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Let him finish so that I can respond to that. The label can't tell me what I'm going to like once I finally hear it. But now, it might not get to my plate. That's what I was getting ready to say. But the label don't make y'all, who are avid music listeners, listen to this nigga's album and say it is mid. The label can't do that.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Ish, Ish, hear me out real quick. Today, a lot of people live based off of playlists and algorithms and all that bullshit. Yes. That is directly funded by labels. Indeed. So there's a lot of people that,
Starting point is 00:39:43 hold on, just give me a second. Give me a second. there's a lot of people that, hold on, just give me a second. Give me a second. There's a lot of people that will sit there and say, oh, ain't nobody talking about this. Like, people are waiting to be told what to like today. That is true. But I do think in this conversation with the people in this room, we have fucking ears that we can listen to that Doja record and say, this should have been delivered. That is my point.
Starting point is 00:40:03 They didn't deliver like they could have delivered. I'm agreeing. I'm talking about something that I didn't talk about. I'm talking about, yo, if you are creative and you are an artist, the label could suppress your shit, but by the time it's heard, if it's good music and a good product
Starting point is 00:40:17 and a good project, then I think that people that hear it that are quote unquote critical. Now, I will cape for Posty and say that I do think that there's a high possibility that he was unhappy with the label and turned in the B-sides. This could be the fuck you album. The B-sides, the fuck you album. I do think that's entirely possible. When I say the fuck you album, I don't mean it's like fuck you to the label.
Starting point is 00:40:37 It's just, yo, we ain't at a, I'm not going to put my best work out if me and you ain't on the same page. I do think that Post and Louis Bell is producer too talented to have thought that this is the thing. Not for nothing, I started to think another big release that just happened may have been a Fuck You album. Just not Fuck You. Kendrick. The more I listen to that album, it kind of feels like he just was on some, this is what I'm doing. I know we're done here. I'm going to put this out. y'all do what you want to do it i'm leaving i'm not supporting i'm not doing interviews i'm not doing nothing and i think all of that plays into the low number like how the
Starting point is 00:41:15 label could step on it and lower your number i think kendrick stepped on it and lowered the number this is my way out i'm done i don't care what happens with this i'm gonna give y'all a pot off more often y'all got theories today i don't disagree what happens with this. I'm going to give y'all a pot off more often. Y'all got theories today. I don't disagree with his theory on that. No, he trying to cook. I don't disagree with his theory on that. The more I look at this album, I'm like... We talked about that briefly on Patreon.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Why the numbers were low. It's the Fuck You album. Yeah. I mean... I won't argue with Parks' original point. And I don't want to drag on an argument for the sake of doing it. If your music is trash, I agree with the label.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Not putting it out. I agree with that. I also, I also think that when you have done a considerable amount and outperformed your contract, that a certain grace should be extended. I agree with that as well. I don't,
Starting point is 00:42:00 I don't think that the two could be, you know what the problem in music is, yo, and I hate to conflate issues but fuck it the problem is there really are only about if we be in serious six artists that call their own shot well on labels yeah that's what i'm talking yeah that's what i'm talking and i will say this like um you know that that's not that's not wild when you think about how many artists are on labels the only thing about the uh the argument that you just made about um
Starting point is 00:42:30 the label giving them grace is i could see if he made a super he wanted to make a fucking acoustic guitar album and the label's like nah we're not doing that yeah in those situations i say grant the great or the's last album while Parks go my bad but he made an album in the same vein as his other albums it's just not as good like
Starting point is 00:42:51 I can see if he wanted to do something different the label's like nah you're in this lane you can't go over here if it's in the same vein it certainly is a different lane no doubt
Starting point is 00:42:59 480 Joe 480 not it's blue blood no no no life of the project for Hollywood's Bleeding by Post Malone. Multiplatinum.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I'm sure. Multiplatinum. But I just want to see. I just want to see. I got you. Just go to his discography and show it. Listen, man. It's not good.
Starting point is 00:43:18 No. It's not good. No. Or it's not his best. It sounds like a fuck you album. Like I said, I think that him and his partner are too talented to have made this album thinking that it's as good as his last albums. I do. Well, that's why I have a new...
Starting point is 00:43:31 I have a problem with a lot of shit. I'm here to address you today. Like, I got a problem when these niggas come tell me about all the label issues and then we never hear nothing again. I don't like that. Keep it to your fucking self if you're not going to offer the solution. Just come venting. What you mean? We always hear about both sides.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Even though it's more from the artist. But it's more from the artist. No, the label got their own tricks. They just mask it like label shit. But we more so hear from the artist directly. They're not in a position to really fix it oh it always gets fixed but it might not it might not be to their best interest no no but it gets resolved let me not say fixed resolution is different it gets resolved
Starting point is 00:44:16 then offer the resolution or settlement yes i would say usually just be a settlement then offer that offer whatever that is because if you don do that, then now we just left to assume shit like this. Posting in his manager, said something was going on. They won't let us put this out when they said that. Then they came back and said, we got a date. We Gucci. But if we Gucci don't mean we Gucci, then don't fucking lie to me as a fucking consumer. Tell me what it is.
Starting point is 00:44:44 This is business. To them, they got to act like it's Gucci. Man, no. I'm with being a savvy consumer. I'm with that. There was a time where when 50 was going up there reading the sound scans, they just went, oh, the fans ain't supposed to know the sound scans. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Let some of them get smart now. Let some of them get smart. I like that. Yeah, fans are becoming more informed. You can't just put everything in the phone, knock down studios, mega stores, and everything else, and then say, hey, fans, be as stupid as you were 15 to 20 years ago. No, no, I ain't buying this shit. That's why Netflix is going through what they're going through. Oh, wait, you're doing that?
Starting point is 00:45:19 Wait, where? No more big budget? Wait, what? Oh, you're adding ads? Wait, what? Oh, no. Inflation to fuck up everywhere. It's tough to live.
Starting point is 00:45:28 And we just about to do that with entertainment? No, nigga. I didn't subscribe to it. That's what I do with my vacations. I'm unsubscribed to all the bullshit I'm subscribed to. You finally left them? Huh? You left them?
Starting point is 00:45:39 Not yet. Not them. Okay. Not them. But they're next. They're next. They're next on the list. I think niggas just be playing nice.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah. Because you got to think about your next deal. You know what I'm saying? You can't just burn a bridge because you got to have some level of professionalism onto the next project. Man, these niggas still looking at it like, yo, no matter how bad this shit situation is, I still need this label. I need to keep... I need this label. I need to keep. I need the label. I need to keep my.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I'm signed here. Composure. There's not many artists that'll jump out there like you will. A lot of these niggas are going to play their position. Like, all right, I'll shut the fuck up. Hollywood Bleeding three times platinum domestically. I'm pretty sure. Probably domestically.
Starting point is 00:46:23 It's usually. Yeah, no. Is it RIA? Yeah. That's domestic then. Yeah, yeah, no. times platinum domestically i'm pretty probably it's usually yeah no that's all right yeah that's domestic yeah yeah no worldwide total it should say the other ones right there all them other api whatever the fuck all right that's australia that's the highest one yeah because there's not as many people in australia and uh europe and the game would change even if more artists had just sole control of their international rights. They keep tricking you with what you sold over here.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Well, I sold over there. These niggas are tricky. It's not like you need shipping no more. These guys. Back in the day, you'd be like, you sold double platinum in England, but we had to ship all this shit over there. All right.
Starting point is 00:47:06 That's how they got them? That's how they got them. Enough time on something that, in all of our opinions, underperformed. I do think that Posty will be back. I think so, too. Yeah, I do. Shake. Shake delivered now.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Shake. 070 Shake. You7, no shake. You can't kill me. Wow. That shit is fire. It's really good. It is. It's really good.
Starting point is 00:47:37 You guys aren't familiar? At all. Oh, okay. She was on a bunch of Kanye stuff. I know the name, but I'm not familiar with any music. Don't get everything in that house, huh? Mass, mass consumption. I get what I want.
Starting point is 00:47:52 I get what I need. That didn't find its way on my... Shake is Fire. This is her second album, right? Yes. Officially, at least. I don't know if she had mixtapes or whatever before, but yeah. I don't have no deep dive
Starting point is 00:48:06 cause I didn't listen to every single second of it yet but y'all are both in agreeance that this is Mike Dean is him also so Mike Dean is him
Starting point is 00:48:16 gotcha wait shut up is this Mike Dean he's always doing shake shit yeah Mike Dean synth guitars mixing
Starting point is 00:48:24 the Mike Dean. Synth guitars mixing. The Mike Dean package. The good one. Why you shaking your head? He's him. Wow. I put this shit on in the shower and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:48:43 wow, what a dramatic what a dramatic step from album one to album two to really step into your vibe and sound and my favorite songs from your first project. And you killing all of this. There's a sound. She has a sound. And it's labeled alternative.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And she has other producers, too, so I don't want to discredit them. I don't know their names off the top of my head. Well, I credit it to the artist. So I'm crediting her. She produced a couple of these. I'm crediting her. But the ability for Mike Dean to say, yeah, let's go in, Mad Times. That says something.
Starting point is 00:49:22 And they smoked this. That makes all the sense in the world now. He did the last one too. I didn't love the last one like I love this one. Really? That says something. And they smoked this. Don't nothing. That just makes all sense in the world now. Yeah. He did the last one too. I think, you know. I didn't love the last one like I love this one. Really? You like this better than the first one?
Starting point is 00:49:31 Yes. Oh, wow. Yes. Yes. But that's what I mean. She leaned a little more into my favorite spots on the first one. Gotcha. The first one for me felt like she hit a bunch out the park, but she was still trying to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Don't you love that? This sounds figured out. Don't you love that? Like the shit that I liked from the last album, I'm getting more of that on the road. That's all Chris Brown about. That's all Chris Brown about to go do, by the way, in case nobody knew. Oh, yeah. Just in case.
Starting point is 00:49:57 I could tell y'all about features. I could tell y'all about his haircut. I heard Snippet, him and Lil Baby record. I said, oh, yep, we up there. I know what's happening. Don't you think that's creative control that the label starts
Starting point is 00:50:06 to give a little bit to the artists new artists yeah I'm about to say brand new artists brand spanking new it could just be I don't know
Starting point is 00:50:14 if she's his artist I don't know I don't know their situation I believe her to be from New Jersey she is from Jersey I believe
Starting point is 00:50:20 and yeah so oh she's on Def I was gonna say I don't know if she's signed to any major but she is on Def Jam so yeah but go listen to Shake yeah, she's on Def. I was going to say, I don't know if she's signed to any major, but she is on Def Jam. Yeah, but. Go listen to Shake.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Yeah, no. She's fire. No, Shake came through. Aaron Ray came through. Aaron Ray shit. I only heard like half. I only heard half as well, but it was enough for me. But Aaron Ray is another one of those guys.
Starting point is 00:50:47 If you're R&B head, he very rarely misses. He knows how to compose a song. Like a good R&B song. Come on, man. Look at this shit. And I got to give credit to D Smoke. I remember a few years ago, niggas on here kind of smoked D Smoke a little bit. He's been showing up. No, but it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:51:02 He's been showing up. I've smoked. D Smoke is dope. I just didn't know who it was. showing up. He's been showing up. D Smoke is dope. The issue I guess was that he was Grammy nominated for an album that a lot of people didn't really hear. It was a solid album
Starting point is 00:51:13 but there was albums that were probably better. They was killing him long before they did. They killed him that entire Netflix rap show. But he got killed. Did he? He got killed purely on the fact of being Sir's brother and a twin.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Your brother popped first as a twin, and here you come trying to rap, and now you on some rappity rap show. Nigga, move. And he was on some Black Power shit. He was on some positive shit. Nigga, move. Where's your singing brother at?
Starting point is 00:51:47 Nah Nah D Smoke is dope But he's been Aside from him being dope He's just been Organically Or it seems like organically Finding his way to dope shit
Starting point is 00:51:57 So shout out to D Smoke man Yeah He's killing too And uh Yeah the air race is hard man Hey you know You know who else delivered Uh
Starting point is 00:52:04 Borey Yes he did Borey Really Hey, you know who else delivered? Borey. Yes, he did. Borey. Really? I didn't know he dropped. Yeah. Borey's delivered. Actually, another one for me.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Dramatic step from last project to this. Really? Is it just me? Nope. I like the last one. Yeah, me too. Yeah, but it was bare. This was better.
Starting point is 00:52:24 It was a little bare. Yeah, this was better like the last one. Yeah, me too. Yeah, but it was bare. But then what is? It was a little bare. Yeah, this was better. This was better. It was a little skeleton-y, reference-y. It was. It was. It was. Airy.
Starting point is 00:52:32 It was. Nah, this one right here. This right here? Nah, this one. This is a little different right here. Oh, man. Who broke his heart? Somebody must have made him mad.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Somebody did something to him. No, he's... Yeah. You can sense You can hear the toxicity in here Yeah Woo Yeah
Starting point is 00:52:48 Listen to the shipment champion Woo get him Nigga you want that You want When it come to music And this is Fucked up on us As the fans
Starting point is 00:52:57 But we want To We don't want your happy music Y'all hate that they ruin toxicity Like what's wrong with Honestly y'all A mal toxicity. As long as you went to Cluck You
Starting point is 00:53:07 and didn't order the 911 wings, you might have survived. As long as you're not like 911. Y'all got Cluck You in New York? No? You never had the nuclear wings? You never had Cluck You? No, I never heard of Cluck You. They had Cluck You in New York.
Starting point is 00:53:23 He wasn't outside. So in New Jersey, Cluck U literally is around a bunch of universities. Oh, okay. And they make wings from Mao all the way to Tom Hanks. Make your eyes burn out. Eyes burn out. You're going to cry. You don't love your family wings.
Starting point is 00:53:41 You got the BGs instantly. Wings, yeah. But they be by most of the time you need somewhere where you could go and get a little toxicity
Starting point is 00:53:49 for a lot of people somehow that's here I think this is me showing up being reformed they think we in here just being toxic yeah we'll be toxic
Starting point is 00:53:58 I don't think so not at all just a little bit you know what I mean a little sprinkle on top a little salt with the toxicity what's your toxic limit today what you know what I mean? A little sprinkle on top. A little salt maybe. With the toxicity. What's your toxic limit today?
Starting point is 00:54:07 What you mean? What am I willing to give as far as toxicity or what am I willing to accept? No, give. Give. Like level 10. Like I'll speak for me as a reformed toxic person. No, I won't. Yo, I needed you to go first. Yeah, yeah. I'll go first. I'll go first. I to go first so I could yeah yeah I'll go first
Starting point is 00:54:25 I'll go first I'll go first like when I was in my 20s and the argument popped off in the car and she said would say pull over and let me
Starting point is 00:54:35 the fuck out I'd pull over and let her the fuck out and leave wait and leave dog? that was wrong yes man and sorry
Starting point is 00:54:48 Keisha I just be thinking the gall of you to start an argument while I'm driving what the hell are you talking about and you can bleep
Starting point is 00:55:04 but anyway yeah yeah, so today I would never do that. That sounds like, that's laughable. That's laughable today. You would never do that today. Of course you grow up. You evolve. So I'm saying today what is your level of Oh no, mine's very low.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I'm going to go sleep on the couch or go out to the bar or eat by myself. I don't think that's the lowest My shit That's pretty low That's pretty high That's pretty high on the sass-o-meter Yeah On the petty-meter
Starting point is 00:55:32 That's high That's mid on the Just going to sleep on the couch I'm going to sleep on the couch You're not saying goodnight You're not kissing You're going You're sassing
Starting point is 00:55:41 Yeah I'm sad I'm mad nigga Yeah Come on that's a five I'll take it That is a five yo You're not kissing. You're going. You're sashaying off. I'm mad, nigga. Yeah. Come on, that's a five. I'll take it, though. That is a five, yo. Go sleep in the fucking bed you purchased like a man.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Two. Excuse me? The mic is right there. That's a two. You think that that's a two. All right, give me four. I don't want to argue. I don't want to kick it.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Like, we at odds. I don't feel like when I cool off, we can talk. Fam, you could go to sleep in your bed. I don't want to. it like we uh i don't feel like fam you could go to sleep in your bed i don't want to and that's why it's a five no i don't do that but i just don't think that that's high up there but it's it's the middle it's the middle i think that's the middle fam depending on how it's don't make me have a real conversation and i don't like you because you've been there too i'll paint a picture for you stop it yo unless you're 10. And I don't like, because you've been there too. I'll paint a picture for you. Stop it, yo. Unless you're 10, it's like disgusting. And your picture, nigga, is going to be way more artistic than mine.
Starting point is 00:56:29 I don't know. I got a brush, nigga. Fuck you talking about. This is what I'm saying to you. We can both have abstracts. But this is what I'm saying to you. Yeah, don't get amnesia, nigga. Yeah, we can both be Bob Ross in here.
Starting point is 00:56:40 What I'm saying to you is this is why I survive. Because this could go up and be bad from this point. Or you could go down and be cool from this point. Getting up and going out is the middle. That shit has happened to leave us. Like you said, I'm going to the bar and all that. Leaving is worse than going to sleep on the couch.
Starting point is 00:57:01 That's worse. You had a seven. I think leaving. You had a seven. I would put leaving at a five. See, y'all not standing on nothing. No, I think that when you go to sleep on the couch that's worse you had a seven I think you had a seven y'all not standing on nothing leaving is what
Starting point is 00:57:08 leaving is you stormed out stormed out stop it stormed out is leaving if you leave quietly it's stormed out that's up there
Starting point is 00:57:16 to me that's high that's high as shit so then what are y'all talking about you down with me I just called that a seven yeah but I don't think
Starting point is 00:57:22 going to sleep on the couch because I don't want to argue is a five I think that's having I think that's having mad restraint unless you're I just called that a seven. Yeah, but I don't think going to sleep on the couch because I don't want to argue is a five. Yeah, me neither. I think that's having mad restraint. I think that's mature. Unless you're attending shit that we, like, as men, would not do. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:57:32 There are men that would do that. It is having restraint-ish. And mad mature. But you know that your girl wants you to sleep, dear man, so she could throw her leg on you or scoot her ass back or say, Babe, do you at least understand where I was coming from earlier? Or sleep on the whole other side of the bed. Yeah, like you know she want to do that.
Starting point is 00:57:54 So as a man, you make the conscious decision, no, fuck you. I'm going to the couch. I'm protecting my... How do you not see that? That's turning it up. Because now what's going to happen is this. You think you just went to the couch I'm protecting my how do you not see that that's turning it up cause now what's gonna happen is this you think you just went to the couch
Starting point is 00:58:07 you think you just went to the couch and cut your favorite show on and just had a blast that was the end tell me how the rest of the story went if we all go to the city and kick it tell me how that
Starting point is 00:58:15 I'm going to sleep hello someone call you oh I'm just I heard a girl just pop up I'm paranoid now fuck this it's Siri
Starting point is 00:58:24 yeah I was about to say, you got your fucking iPhone or some shit? It's a Houston number two. One of them realtors? That I got from where? The Graham. You would think you buying
Starting point is 00:58:35 a bunch of houses in Houston. How you doing? You ain't buying nothing in Houston, right? Just following them all. Just in case. Just in case. Get pointers.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Just in case, like Jahan. Yo, if you've ever went to the couch to sleep, back to my point, and I'll close this up. We got you to get to. If you've ever went to the couch to sleep
Starting point is 00:58:50 while your girl was in the other room, I would love for you to tell me how the rest of that night went. I think it's a small percentage of y'all that got a good sleep. She my shit, mom.
Starting point is 00:59:00 But she ain't do nothing, but stay up. Hey, she ain't do nothing, but stay up in the other room telling her homegirl mad loud so you can hear everything. Fuck this nigga. Start slamming drawers, slamming the bathroom door, stomping.
Starting point is 00:59:10 She got the bromal fucking banging on shit. Doing shit she ain't never did before. Now she mopping at three in the morning. It's like, yo, what are you doing, dog? Or she followed you to the living room. I think a lot of you men have that story, but you don't get vulnerable. You tried to have restraint then, too. And then she stabbed you.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Oh, shit. I was talking about that. I'm joking, of course. I'm going to say you. Nah, she turned up on you. Yo, dog, my mouth goes crazy. Can get crazy. So in my older age, I don't do that no more.
Starting point is 00:59:45 So I walk away. But wait, this one ain't really good. No. Yeah, I'm stuck with him. I'm with him. Because I'm not even the guy to kick the wall. Ice is with me. I'm with him.
Starting point is 00:59:53 I'm not the arguer. No, I am. I'm not. So I try not to be today. You don't get to walk away. Who don't get to what? You. You do not get to walk away.
Starting point is 01:00:02 I followed you. And I followed you. I followed both of you. Fam. Babe, we can't go to bed like You. You do not get the why. I followed you. And I followed you. I followed both of you. Fam. Babe, we can't go to bed like this. I want to talk. No, let's stop. No.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Listen. I had a hugger one time. And when the argument got to its peak, she would say, hug me. Let's just stop everything and hug. Maybe I'm toxic. Wait, what? She was white? No.
Starting point is 01:00:26 That's a white people thing. I'm not the one. You better get the fuck out of my face. I'm not the one. You better get the fuck out of my face. I don't know what the white girl was saying. In the middle of the art. That's some...
Starting point is 01:00:39 Get the fuck away from me. Fam, we here now. Once it gets to argument status, here cool stay over there i'm gonna stay over here maybe we could revisit this tomorrow and get some your toxic levels are still high that's me that's me straight up because y'all listen to y'all i do think it makes me a little bit more toxic toxic levels personally i'm not with the arguing shit especially when we upset i will not do that shit at all i'm like look yo we give me my space let's cool off state of mind Your toxic levels is high. Personally, I'm not with the arguing shit, especially when we upset. I will not do that shit at all.
Starting point is 01:01:08 I'm like, look, give me my space. Let's cool off. We're in an emotional state of mind. We don't believe in that. And if you continue to turn up, then I got to leave. Yeah, but if she tries to piece it up. Yeah. And you still. You're changing that.
Starting point is 01:01:17 You're changing it. You can't make no one else. No one else. We're trying to hug in the middle of the argument. We're talking about. Yeah, we brought up hugging. Y'all said, fuck that. It's up.
Starting point is 01:01:24 You said at the peak of the argument, she'll say brought up hugging. Y'all said, fuck that, it's up. You said at the peak of the argument, she'll say, hug me. Yeah, she's trying to at least bring some love and peace back in the argument. She loves you.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Listen, man, go to sleep. Go to sleep. I'll talk tomorrow. Just leave me alone right now. Wait, you telling women to go to sleep? I'm not.
Starting point is 01:01:42 I'm asking you a question. I'm telling you. You tell her when it's time to answer yo it's time for bed now no no no narrative
Starting point is 01:01:48 put that light out bullshit no narrative hey not another peep out of you okay no narrative painter
Starting point is 01:01:55 that's not what's happening no he said it I'm just saying that in that moment peak of the argument when you start trying to we had odds I don't
Starting point is 01:02:04 don't go don't. Go in the other, I'm going over here. And if you want to continue to follow me, then I'm going to do what, I'm going to take it the next step.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Tell her which, you better go though. I'm not telling her which you better go. Yo, I'm going over here. You better. Snicker,
Starting point is 01:02:18 yo. That's him. Hey, that's him. I'm telling y'all, I don't do that shit no more. That's why I asked y'all. I don't think men know
Starting point is 01:02:25 Their toxic levels yo Yo I used to When you asked the question My toxic level Yo my toxic level I'm not even willing To take a hug Or say I love you
Starting point is 01:02:32 At the end of it Like before you go Bro if we still You just can't End the argument Cause you ready to The girl that wanted you to say I love you to each other
Starting point is 01:02:40 At the end of the argument Yo No That's the same shit With the hug no yeah i'm not there right yeah but when you in that moment and you feel yourself you have to say the no you realize how stupid you sound saying and it's tough it's tough my toxicity shit was literally just you know when you send a paragraph i'm gonna go find the one line to respond to and ignore everything else that was it and that ain't i can't believe that y'all have never been with the girl to follow
Starting point is 01:03:10 you in the next room i'm out of here i'm leaving this i'm out of here i'm out we got music we got other shit to get to john absolutely yeah we have i'm telling you i'm telling you first off today if that were to happen to me I'm telling you What would happen next You're getting arrested I'm calling the police I'm calling the police today buddy They're going to kick you
Starting point is 01:03:34 Right out your own house I got to know This ain't bad I'll find some way to go Oh man Listen do we have to get to this Yeah we have to get to this? Yeah, we have to get to it.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Come on. Young Thug denied bond for being a threat to the public and risk of witness tampering. And, you know, before we get started with this, and y'all can figure out your take, y'all take as I say this. Before we get started with this, watching the prosecutor read lyrics in court to the judge and talk about just how dangerous people are from the lyrics and like actually having to say the lyrics out loud reminded me of another reason that I'm totally against lyrics in court, especially from the prosecutor, who just happens to be a white guy. I knew it was going to happen. I feel you. It's rhythm, yo. His pocket was all off. He wasn't reading the lyrics on the one.
Starting point is 01:04:40 What the fuck is wrong with him? The sauce. That lyric did not go like that, yo. That bitch better have my money. He ain't had no auto-tune on him or nothing. No, it was bad. It was offbeat, off the one, no cadence, style, charisma. All the lyrics going to sound bad if you do that.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I think that's their point. That's what they're trying to do. Doing it on purpose. Yeah, they're doing that on purpose. They're reading it exactly that. Yeah, they're doing that shit on purpose. Shout out to Kevin Liles, yo. For real. Tell the people why.
Starting point is 01:05:16 No, I was about to. Kevin Liles is a multi-millionaire. Successful times 10. Yeah. to sit up there and see him get as emotional as he got
Starting point is 01:05:29 was that was something for me like yo dog but the bad part with that was he had to qualify himself
Starting point is 01:05:40 almost to these motherfuckers that are peons to me in a societal view. I had to sit
Starting point is 01:05:48 up there and say, yeah, I'm this, I'm that, I'm this, I'm that, I'm this, and I'm that. And that's why my opinion matters. You get what I'm saying? Like, that shit was almost Back to my still nigga point. I don't want to be. No, no. I was about to say that. I was about to say yo, it's crazy that
Starting point is 01:06:03 let's say the prosecutor makes 200 grand, 250. I'm sitting up here. I've taken companies from nothing to something. You get what I'm saying? Worldwide, I'm recognized as one of them. And I got to sit up here and qualify myself to you and this fucking judge. You know what I'm saying? Like almost.
Starting point is 01:06:26 And then it got insulting. Let's move that mic back a little bit. Let's just say hypothetically we allow him bond. The money can get up there. You might end up spending a little over a million dollars in home security and uh and this and that you know are you prepared to do that does does he have the means to do that that's disgusting word kevin lyons was like nigga yeah me and him both do word yeah yeah we got it what's up that's it no no And I will personally and professionally guarantee and back him in it. I both do.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Professionally and personally. We'll back him. Yo, man. Not enough can be said about Kevin Louse. And I didn't know what I was going to come in here and say about this because this shit is getting really intricate. So I'm trying to mind my business but the kevin laos uh clips they fucked me up went everywhere yeah so on one hand you have the people that say well what is he supposed to say
Starting point is 01:07:37 he didn't have i don't accept that me but kevin laos they said what was he supposed to say you have a small number of people who maybe don't understand that say what the fuck was he supposed to say we just watched bobby and rowdy sit there and and the label act like they didn't exist a little different here but i'm just saying you said what is he supposed to say bobby and rowdy was new or he has a long he's a decade long relationship young thug is young thug i know he's him he long he's a decade long relationship with I agree Young Thug is Young Thug no he's him he's however many years in of being a
Starting point is 01:08:10 high earner for Kev but I don't want to harp on any of that because none of it matters it don't matter I know Kev personally
Starting point is 01:08:16 I know Kev personally when I was a little more off than the internet says that I am. And he's not one of them. There is nothing to say bad about him as it pertains to his relationships with artists. His role in artist development and how he shows up for every artist when there's tough times need i remind y'all
Starting point is 01:08:47 that this is the man that housed murder inc rockefeller fucking uh all of it yo rough riders this is the man that was head of the helm when uh the feds had to come running in there and ordered everything this is the man that was an active musician probably or one uh in a uh or uh in demand writer or some type of creative but back when two live crew went to court for this very same thing which he highlighted here he said this is not the first time that hip-hop has been on trial and it's a shame that i'm called here to testify all of these years later with hip-hop being on trial uh he's only done this for my entire career which is 20 years i got signed in 01 and all you know bad about kev is probably from the dame dash clips
Starting point is 01:09:41 that went around dame yelling at him yeah yeah. But... But even in that, how he handled himself in that. What he birthed, what he's done from Def Jam to his music career to... He has changed the game. He was there for the Def Jam Dream Team.
Starting point is 01:10:00 He's him, really. Artists will tell you this. This is not just a joke thing. So I don't think many of us were shocked to see him front and center saying what needed to be said for his people i don't think many of us were shocked kev niggas like me appreciate you we love you and we need more of that representation no matter how you might feel about the young thug case yeah true i'm not necessarily talking about that right that's true i'm talking about people like kev steve dame ho just there's a bunch of them there's too many to name Irv 50
Starting point is 01:10:45 they are a bunch of brilliant minds that have gone from impoverished hood shit to
Starting point is 01:10:54 moguldom yes yeah and that needed he needed he needed to be there I was glad that it was him I was
Starting point is 01:11:04 that's how I felt I can't tell you I can't tell you how I would feel if I was glad that it was him I was that's how I felt I can't tell you I can't tell you how I would feel if I weren't that close to him but I might come in here
Starting point is 01:11:14 and say it's a front and a facade I might but I just that's not who he's been I don't know him that's not who he's been I know that's your guy I don't know him I don't see that
Starting point is 01:11:23 he's the only guy that showed up I saw sincerity i saw genuineness i saw a real raw emotion and then again i i looked at it in a couple different ways you know what i'm saying like um you got to be cognizant and mindful of the things that they're accused of right so you you can't never discount those people on the other side of that sure but to see this powerful ass black man yo they kind of belittled him a little bit to me like i was kind of mad watching him in there you get what i'm saying like they would never ask fucking martin scorsese these questions that shit kind of hot had me hot yo and you know what i'm saying he said when he hey i come from when he I come from this I've started this I have made this
Starting point is 01:12:09 I've given back this I have streets in Baltimore I have plaques over here degrees in this they have a builder named behind me at Morgan State University like what would you like to discuss like let's get who I am forget about that
Starting point is 01:12:24 I'm here to stamp? What's up? Like, let's get who I am. Forget about that. I'm here to stamp that. He's not going to run. Now, apparently, that whole bond shit gets way deeper than my brain. And I won't even talk about it. But I read enough about it. Me too. About appending.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Apparently, the lawyers involved in this case, from what I read, are all them. On both sides? Gunner's lawyer, Thugger's lawyer, and the lawyer representing the state. No, Homeboy. All lawyers involved.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Because there are cases that inner inner overlap 28 people but it's like a case here that one lawyer is representing and then because
Starting point is 01:13:12 Zirico is pulled into this case here and then this guy over here might take a plea and he represents him and then he takes a plea then it's a conflict
Starting point is 01:13:20 like they doing a lot the prosecution is the prosecutor is trying to get home, boy. That's nice. That's his lawyer to fuck off with. You get out the building. They're trying to get him.
Starting point is 01:13:30 No, he can't represent him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're trying to get him off of this fast. Oh, really? Because he's representing someone else who they're talking about. They're sitting there with Gotti. Oh, yeah, we got to get this ball hitting the guy. Yeah, you're too nice.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Yeah, you're too nice. Remember Gotti, lawyer? Uh-oh. Gotti, lawyer. We got to get this nigga out of here. We can't beat him. So we got to get this ball-head nigga out of here. He too nice. Yeah, he too nice. Remember Gotti Loyal? Uh-oh. Gotti Loyal, we got to get this nigga out of here. We can't beat him. So we got to rig the game. That's exactly what they're trying to do.
Starting point is 01:13:50 They did that. They did that with old boy, Corey. Yeah, you got to get out of here. This nigga got crack record too crazy. But nah, to watch Kev do that, that shit was admirable. Yeah, to see him do it. You know, you hear instances where somebody wrote a letter to the judge. You know, they'll write something
Starting point is 01:14:06 to see him actually go up there and lay it out. He talked about him as a person. Yeah. He broke him down in the humane because they look at us like animals. And then when you read the lyrics. That's Jeffrey.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Yeah, but then when you read the lyrics too, it kind of lends to see how somebody, especially some white judge that's 60 years old it's black i'm just giving an example like making it broader like yo how some 60 year old individual could say somebody wrote that or somebody said that because they don't necessarily identify with the culture right so it's easy to to dehumanize them you know what i'm saying he's talked about
Starting point is 01:14:43 him by name he talked about what his initiatives were when I first signed him. He said, y'all want to help everybody. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, so you don't know what behind-the-doors conversations
Starting point is 01:14:54 he's really had with this kid. You know what I'm saying? Like, then he said, yo, matter of fact, he not signed to me. We got a partnership. He's my business partner. So we not even going to make him
Starting point is 01:15:04 look like one of my subordinates, which he could have easily made him. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, no, no. Let's big him up. I got two deals with Doug. Like, oh, he about to start talking to these niggas in here. Wait, let me tell you who he is. I signed that whole crew that y'all doing this with.
Starting point is 01:15:23 And I signed him. And I employ over 5,000 people. Yo, I don't know. He said that too. He said that too? Yeah, just let y'all know who y'all talking to. Yo, talk. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:15:34 They have streets named after me. Like, yo, talk. Put some respect on my name. Talk to me. Put some respect on my name. Now, yeah. This is what I like too. And, yeah, I'm highlighting Kev, man.
Starting point is 01:15:48 This is what I like, too. And in an attempt to try to fucking identify with the judge, Kev was like, hey, I'm not sure how old you are, judge. Oh, I ain't hear that part. And the judge was like, I'm a little older. Whatever Kev said, he's 49. I have old Kev. And I'm just like, I'm a little older whatever Kev said he's 49 I have a little older
Starting point is 01:16:05 than Kev is and the judge was like I'm older than that I was taking a little take in the back I was like okay and then Kev was like
Starting point is 01:16:15 okay cool well then I'm gonna teach you this and he didn't say that but whatever he went into alright you older than me but maybe you still
Starting point is 01:16:23 don't know so this is culture and he went into next, all right, you older than me, but maybe you still don't know. So this is culture. And he went into some culture shit. But it's just great representation, yo. Just great representation. And we need that. We need to see it more often, yo. You got to see it more often.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Yeah, but there's a reason why we don't. And maybe that's a conversation for another time. And maybe a Patreon. Because, yeah, you might got to enlighten me. Tank said it already. Tank said it. Why they gonna keep showing you this, yo?
Starting point is 01:16:51 Why they gonna keep showing you a P? Why they gonna keep showing you that? This nigga P went out there and I'm using P just because it's current now but there were those
Starting point is 01:17:03 before him that did the same. That nigga P went out there with his brain and his moxie and fucking now look at all of atlanta it's not by coincidence it's not by coincidence that master p put out seven different artists every week for three years it's not a coincidence that fucking baby had these niggas at nine years old like it's not a coincidence right fucking baby had these niggas at nine years old. Like, it's not a coincidence, right? Like, it only take one powerful brain to bring it back to show people a different way. Why the fuck would they keep? There was a time when Kevin Lowes wouldn't sit in front of a camera. But that's exact law at some point.
Starting point is 01:17:44 No, the game, that ain game, I'm behind the scenes. Now these niggas can't get from in front of a camera, and I love it, because these are the people that we need. Hey, we just be sitting back talking hip-hop. This man's probably forgot more about hip-hop than a lot of people know. Indeed.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Those are the people you need to hear from. That's true. That's what I just said. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, come on, 1,000%, man. Kev, we appreciate you need to hear from. That's true. That's what I just said. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, come on. 1,000%, man. Kev, we appreciate you. I'm sure your entire squad does as well, but you already know the vibes, man.
Starting point is 01:18:13 You know. And he'll continue to show up this way. Like, this is not a pit stop. And that's real anger. I do believe Kev could have gave him another tear or two. But that's definitely real emotion up there. Real emotion, real anger. Prayers to everybody involved in this.
Starting point is 01:18:33 The trial is set for January 2023. And we'll see what happens. But that prosecutor did get a little sad. That's how I knew he was getting his ass kicked in there. He threw out yeah we got proffers from a few people it's like oh named and unnamed that's what he said not just proffers from those listed and some who are not. I was like, oh, he getting spicy. He is trying it. Oh, man. Well, I'll be watching.
Starting point is 01:19:14 I'll be watching. What else can you do? But watch and prayers to everybody involved. And on to unimportant news. Yeah. Yeah, let's break it up a little bit. You made headlines this week. I'm a headline, yo.
Starting point is 01:19:37 That's true. Yeah. Stop. Enough of it. Enough of it. I'm not here. You know what a vacation will do? It's my brain yo
Starting point is 01:19:48 Sorry Stuck with it And so are we And there's some Yeah I'm kind of tired of you Trying to be honest with you Cause my fucking phone don't stop
Starting point is 01:19:59 And that's It gets annoying Like nigga I'm not Joe Stop calling me Stop texting me Yo Kyrie went on his Socials When he was, and I do like the ongoing beef between modern NBA players and fans and critics of the game. I agree. I do.
Starting point is 01:20:18 I like it. Sorry. Unfortunately, I don't know where I stand on the matter because I get both sides. But that brings me to me. Just me. I'm just I'm not. It's just me, yo. It's just me. I've taken enough meetings. I've had enough conversations. I know what the impressions do, yo. I know what happens when my name is attached to something. happens when my name is attached to something for me these be regular passing fleeting thoughts this be two seconds out of a day i woke up seeing some shit was like oh shit shit crazy yo that's not crazy y'all and then just went and then just went on about my, but,
Starting point is 01:21:08 and I don't want to sound like I'm complaining about this, because I don't know if I should or I shouldn't. I don't know if I should block every one of you blog sites that just kind of shape things to your narrative. It wouldn't work. And don't ever put out any of the positive black dad entrepreneur, and none of that, we just skip all of that.
Starting point is 01:21:26 I don't know it might work nah cause employees will still follow you it would be yeah you can't block them it would be impossible
Starting point is 01:21:31 nigga I don't close friends everybody but blogs yeah but like Parks is saying though there'll be an intern or something working
Starting point is 01:21:39 or somebody that just wants to get a spot over there at a blog somebody at the blog that owns the blog but listen but listen
Starting point is 01:21:44 I don't want to harp on that because there are plenty of people that would love to just say something and land on a blog. Like, that is what this monetization culture, or for some of y'all, demonetization, that's what that culture lives on. That's true. It just don't really help me
Starting point is 01:22:01 because I don't go about my business model that way right like i'm not looking to say as many names as i could possibly say rile up opinions get the response and when i say something i just say it so made a couple of headlines y'all called me the fucking strip club activists y'all called me martin l club activist. Y'all called me Martin Luther King for the strippers and dancers. Y'all called me Dr. Umar for starlets. Y'all called me every name in the book. Y'all called me a colorist. I saw that a lot.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Wouldn't that be? They called me. Wasn't your thing kind of the opposite? But anyway. No, stop. No, no, no. And that's weird. It wasn't. It me wasn't your thing kind of the opposite but anyway no stop and that's weird it wasn't it really wasn't because all i saw was right message wrong messenger you can't say that
Starting point is 01:22:52 joe because that's all you date and i i can't i'm not gonna defend you i'll just be looking at it but i'm like that's not all he's dating but people will just create narratives just because they can internet culture cns no no it's not all that they've seen. It ain't even that. It ain't even that. Yo, when you allow one, two, ten, a hundred, or a thousand people to say something, and you attempt to take high road, or it's just not important to you, then that can linger.
Starting point is 01:23:18 And unfortunately, that happens a lot today. So what? Y'all going to say, I date nothing but spanish chicks i'm not gonna come out and tell you that you're wrong because why is that your business like a lot of times in these situations you're protecting the anonymity the person that you're intimate with a lot of times some people don't want all of their business plastered all over the internet so the internet that's this thing where they just feel like they know everything about your shit and when you don't and when you don't address it
Starting point is 01:23:50 then they feel like they're right they're like oh you didn't even nobody corrected me no that's one of the like i saw i saw them saying um yo joe can't say that all he dates is spanish chicks right then i saw a comment saying well he's dating a black woman right now so now there's a fact that refutes what you said rather than admit you wrong you know what they said after that oh that's just for the look he's pandering he's right yeah no that's what i read i read oh he dates one black woman and now he want to see more black representation in the strip club. I also heard, well, why the fuck do he want us there? That was crazy. We are better than that. I saw a lot of that.
Starting point is 01:24:33 I saw a lot of that, yo. We're busy chasing degrees. We ain't in no strip club. Leave that for them. Yo, I might, yo. I was like, yo almost pushed me to shutting the fuck up. I couldn't believe that one. I ain't going to hold you, yo.
Starting point is 01:24:41 to shutting the fuck up. I couldn't believe that one. I ain't going to hold you, yo. I almost was pushed to shut the fuck up. Nah. Never. Never that. Never that.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Listen, a few things. Judge dated a bunch of black women. Beautiful, beautiful. I wish y'all knew. I want to tell y black women. Beautiful, beautiful. I wish y'all knew. I want to tell y'all. They know some. That's what gets me. No, they try to act like you ain't there. No, they do know some, dog. I know.
Starting point is 01:25:14 See, because I do the counting. Y'all talk about me so much that I start counting. So when y'all say all he do is fuck Spanish chicks, I start counting the ones that y'all know about. It's about a hundred y'all don't know about or two bad or eight hundred that's me yo and that's what i mean yo some of y'all don't know me some of y'all don't know me this is me me if there were no other topic in life that I was qualified to speak in guess what buddy some of y'all are new here some of y'all just start coming
Starting point is 01:26:02 around there's a lot of y'all might not know there's a lot of for your 40 years old what are you even worried about strip clubs coming around. It was a lot of, y'all might not know. It was a lot of, uh, four, you're 40 years old. What are you even worried about strip clubs for? I saw that with a lot. Those is the people that don't know about that.
Starting point is 01:26:11 I mean, but yo, for the people that do know, again, I'm home like calculating shit. I almost want to say if you don't work in New York strip clubs, none of y'all are there more than me not one of y'all
Starting point is 01:26:29 I say it I'm there three to four times a week chilling it wasn't a couple strippers and dancers and bartenders piped up a bunch. A lot was silent.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Guess why? Yeah, a few of the little skinny girls that don't meet Joe's weight requirement jumped in to say, hey, well, you only tip. The Spanish girl that last week, two weeks ago, you was only in the corner, hugged up. Well, yeah, she weighs 205 pounds and touches the spot when you give her a dollar. The fuck are y'all talking about? Can you say that on TV? You can say that.
Starting point is 01:27:13 What are y'all talking about? We know. It ain't a whole bunch of black girls running around. You talking to the guy that knows everybody's schedule. A lot of y'all have come to see me before work and after work for
Starting point is 01:27:31 ages. This is Joe Budden. Sometimes internet, y'all have to shut the fuck up. A lot of the promoters in New York. I know all of you.
Starting point is 01:27:54 The owners to the spots. I know you. I know them all. The only thing I didn't know was where the second back door was in Starless that night I broke my foot. thing I didn't know was where the second back door was in Starless that night I broke my foot. Outside of that, who is more qualified to speak on the state of strip clubs in New York
Starting point is 01:28:12 that don't work there? As a customer that spends. This ain't even like broke Joe talking. Now he's spending in there. Yeah, nah. That would be me. I agree. Some of y'all thought that was like a new sentiment in mind it has not been
Starting point is 01:28:30 it has not been yesterday it caught some wind cause I was fresh home ready to just talk but I've been saying for a while this is what's going on in New York that's not to say nothing negative about anybody.
Starting point is 01:28:47 But I certainly would like to see more representation. But not just in nightlife culture. Barbershop culture. We've been having this talk a lot. I'd love to see more black businesses just be able to pop up in New York, in New Jersey. I would love that. I'd love to walk out my door and go to the black aunt who could spot up the street. Dog, it's just this morning.
Starting point is 01:29:10 I'm in a bodega. I run into my man in there. He's like, yo, what you doing over on this side of town? I'm like, I'm going to go to the barbershop. He was like, yo, you got a black barber? Where? Like, he couldn't, like, where? I've been looking for
Starting point is 01:29:25 a black barber I can't find him he was like yo everything around here is Dominicans and I had to tell him yo over here in the hood in the spot
Starting point is 01:29:31 but yeah ain't no rep like we can't find black owned shit like that no more period yeah and it's by design so at some point
Starting point is 01:29:42 somebody had to say something and listen what I will apologize for because i made a mistake in just my typing i needed to say some strip clubs because this is not all strip clubs in new york uh there's a few spots over in brooklyn listen now they're in there let me let me this, though, with this particular topic here. You should have said most.
Starting point is 01:30:08 I should have said most. That's what I said. You should have said most and a prominent one. That's what I'm saying. The popular ones, yo. That's what I was trying to say. Let me ask this. Do you think they're catering to what their customer base wants in there?
Starting point is 01:30:20 Evidently. I don't think so. Well, I won't tell them that that's not true. What I will say is when the rules were a little different, the strip club scene in New York and the culture in New York
Starting point is 01:30:29 was way more popping. What do you mean the rules being different? When it wasn't this way in New York, strip clubs were way more popping and people made way more money. You think?
Starting point is 01:30:39 That culture was way more up. Yes. But I think... Oh, go ahead. You are the authority here. So I'll concede to your point. I just think that now it's more clubs
Starting point is 01:30:52 and more women. Like, you gotta think, you've been in the strip club culture for 20-something years, right? Back in the day, if you were a dancer, that was kind of shunned. Now,
Starting point is 01:31:04 dancers be out here, bro, like, it's a million, it's, nigga, in Patterson alone, it's probably 15 strip clubs.
Starting point is 01:31:11 In Patterson. When you start talking about Queens, it be one right here and right around the corner is another one and they both lit. So, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:31:19 I think the money is just being spread out more. You get what I'm saying? I think the money is being spread out more. It's way more establishment. Can I counter your point? Of course.
Starting point is 01:31:29 I agree with you. There are more strip clubs today than there have, operating concurrently. Yeah. Than there have been probably ever. Popping too.
Starting point is 01:31:39 Now let's talk about the girls. All the same. Thank you. No, I, no. So, no. So, yes. But you. No, I... So, yes. But you said it was better when it was diverse. And it was more money when it was diverse. So I was just saying...
Starting point is 01:31:52 I'm just talking about the scene. Oh, I see. The culture. I just think that it spread out more. So whereas you might have had four spots before, now you literally got 20 spots. So if it was a million dollars to bust down, it was 250 a spot.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Now you got to break it down to 20 different spots. You get what I'm saying? And my nigga, we talk about a lot of the strip clubs that we frequent, they in Queens. He talked about Brooklyn. I was like, is strip clubs in Brooklyn? Yeah. Because we don't be going there. Manhattan got a million strip clubs.
Starting point is 01:32:26 Yo, the internet yesterday acted like I went to Dykeman and said, Hey, what's going on out here? Why is no black people? That's what they acted like. It's important to highlight this. They act like I went to Washington Heights and said,
Starting point is 01:32:38 where's the black people? Or like I went to canal street and said, where's the black people? We're in Queens. Melting pot for you people that are not here. Most diverse county. Extremely diverse. Yeah, this ain't,
Starting point is 01:32:53 in Staten Island you might hear something about what they got going on over there. Same with over here, same with over, we are in Queens. Stop it. Stop it. You're talking to the guy that has had to call the owner slash promoter
Starting point is 01:33:07 to put the black girl on for the night because that's the girl that was getting me out of bed that's who you're talking to some of y'all might not know it's joe but again i think that goes to your crowd. A lot of these niggas be Spanish dope boys coming in there, and that's what they want to see, yo. Hey, yo, check this out. Don't take no word from Joe. Don't take no word from me. Go talk to any black girl working nightlife in New York.
Starting point is 01:33:41 Go talk to Maddie. Go talk to Naya. Go talk to Kaz.. Go talk to Kaz. I can name a bunch. Hey, go talk to the Spanish girls that look black. Such as Cardi said. She DM me. Support that shit.
Starting point is 01:33:56 Of course she does. I remember. Who the fuck knew Cardi B was black when she didn't talk? I mean, with Spanish. They killing her right now. Because it's easy to say, oh, girl, you're Spanish. Shut up. Nobody knew Cardi B was Spanish.
Starting point is 01:34:13 At lust and all of that. She was a hard worker. She had to go in there, fight for a night, fight for the poll, fight for a partner. The fuck are y'all? I'm talking to people in new york yo you put shit on the internet and people just start chiming in from shit it's me y'all i was there no cardi b could not just get any night she wanted like she's saying she says and i quote funny thing you say that because when i was a dancer certain clothes wouldn't let me work on
Starting point is 01:34:44 latin nights because apparently quote unquote latin nights because apparently i didn't look Like she's saying, she says, and I quote, funny thing you say that because when I was a dancer, certain clubs wouldn't let me work on Latin nights. Because apparently, quote unquote, Latin nights. Because apparently I didn't look Spanish enough with my braids. I even spoke about strip club and colorism before. She's absolutely right. She is. As have I. But now it's a big thing.
Starting point is 01:34:57 But I like that. There's mad Latin nights in the strip clubs. But my point had nothing to do with that. Some of y'all thought that I was saying i'm not fucking spanish girls anymore no that's what happens you say one thing and well let me clear it up well let me clear it up then i mean i can't speak for everyone's level of uh comprehension so just in case just so you're clear hey I'm gonna keep fucking Spanish girls too
Starting point is 01:35:28 like that these two things more black women need to be in or have the opportunity to be in nightlife they could choose to say no fuck that
Starting point is 01:35:37 but the opportunity needs to be there and we can fuck Spanish girls I never sell this stuff I never comprende I never said all this stuff. I never. Comprende? I never.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Comprende? I never said. I never said that. And then if you know how Joe's stupid brain work, I had plantains laid on it and posted it. This nigga's crazy. And posted it. What are y'all talking to me, y'all? Yo, ask them, yo.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Yo, the Spanish girls in my day, y'all know what they're talking about. That's like, I don't know. I don't know. It's me. It's me. I think that when Cardi says it, you gotta shut the fuck up. Yeah. She said it before. She lived it, though.
Starting point is 01:36:19 She said it before. You get what I'm saying? I said this. I was knee deep in it. You gotta shut up. You gotta shut up. But the internet will not shut up. Yeah, they ain't gonna do that.
Starting point is 01:36:31 They don't care. Neither does Joe. Neither does Joe. There's one promoter, I'm gonna have to speak to him face to face. Somebody say something slick. I'm gonna have to speak
Starting point is 01:36:40 to him face to face. What the fuck is she talking about? See, that's the thing. We got like a whole, oh, I'm loyal to peace, when I peace it up, it's pieced up, y'all fucking wanna know how your kids are doing, but I'm loyal to the smoke, y'all, I can't. I can't lie to you. And we in this era where there's like, and I'm not used to it, y'all.
Starting point is 01:37:09 So y'all got to help me. I may be like an anomaly. There's this era of passive, aggressive adult men that I can't go beat up because y'all going to sue. so you just gotta wait till you feeling passive aggressive for me to learn that you got a problem or you feel a certain type of way
Starting point is 01:37:30 and I'm not like that when I'm out if I don't fuck with a nigga I don't say a word I walk right I walk right by I might look at the floor I might take a phone
Starting point is 01:37:42 yo nigga I might talk loud in your ear walking by yo nigga that's what it be when it's nothing, but it don't be like that, because niggas is respectful, but now you just got an era of niggas where it's too many of y'all niggas that was spicy yesterday, that see me every week, because I'm out fucking side every week alone, it had a lot to say and you're gonna have to stand on that I'm coming what you think I'm gonna stop going strip club wait did they think that yeah no some of you I don't like it I don't like passive aggressive men if you don't like
Starting point is 01:38:21 niggas move around or don't ride dick when you see niggas outside. It'd be a whole lot of love the pod. It'd be a whole lot of let me get my artists on the pod. It'd be a whole lot of yo, I love how you spit that intellectual shit. How you talk that shit. Your words. Nigga, I don't want to hear none of that shit. But respectfully, I listen to it.
Starting point is 01:38:40 Because we outside. But if it ain't that. I need to tell some of y'all who I am, yo. I do. I do. I think that's what my 40s is going to be about. I'm reclaiming me. I am.
Starting point is 01:38:58 I am. Oh, baby. No, I am. Get money, right? Look at my brain. You know my motto get money right no every now and again
Starting point is 01:39:10 just a good steal will fix a motherfucker but I jump right in DM's hey spicy
Starting point is 01:39:18 that's a spicy mayo sandwich that's spicy chicken that's spicy chicken and what they said stay out of our business mind the business that pays you sandwich. Spicy chicken. That's spicy chicken. And what they said? Stay out of our business. Find a business that pays you. No, nigga. Now what? Now what? Find a business that pays you?
Starting point is 01:39:34 Nigga, I'm a patron here. It's not discussion time. I'm no longer talking about what I just said. Now I'm talking about what you just said. Exactly. And I ain't typing it. And I ain said. Now I'm talking about what you just said. Exactly. And I ain't typing it. And I ain't typing it.
Starting point is 01:39:48 I ain't typing it. Hey, hey, double check. Heart. Heart, I like that shit. I love that shit. I get goosebumps imagining shit like that. But you gonna sue. You gonna sue. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:01 You gonna sue. Can't even steal on a nigga. Motherfuckers will sue. But I'm gonna ask him about it. What'd. But I'm going to ask him about it. What'd he say? I'm going to ask him about it now. Well, yo, you're talking on the topic of diversity in women. You see a man, Dr. Umar, branching out?
Starting point is 01:40:16 Branching out. Now you see him. You see him though, right, Ali? Yeah. He branched out. Branching out. You see him branch out? Yo goes on a tree limb All the way
Starting point is 01:40:25 He's smiling He cheesing He's having a good time You know what I mean That's all it was That's all it was Stop recording people When they out man
Starting point is 01:40:32 Yeah You fucking up My internet persona Yeah Umar ain't Knowing y'all He was just kicking it man Umar's my man too She was just showing him
Starting point is 01:40:41 Something on the phone That she thought was funny He thought it was funny too Yeah the contact information. Put your number right here. That's what she was showing. 289. Nah, I think she was,
Starting point is 01:40:49 I think she probably saw something that he would be interested in expounding on with his platform. I know. 289. And so, you know what I mean? Dr. Umar
Starting point is 01:41:00 found the need to explain to y'all what was going on and he said, yes, I was at Cherry Hill Mall today Jersey what up
Starting point is 01:41:08 my iPhone crashed last night and the closest Apple store with an available appointment today was in Jersey as I was leaving
Starting point is 01:41:15 the mall I stopped at a kiosk to view the incense and crystals the non-African woman is simply the vendor oh there was more than that he went on on Instagram and was like,
Starting point is 01:41:26 to any of y'all that thought something different, fuck y'all, whatever he said. He said that, right? But Dr. Umar, see, I'm from New Jersey, which is mall capital of the world, and I know what it means
Starting point is 01:41:42 when they step outside of the kiosk and he's trying to get a direct relationship you know where she can sip the crystals and incenses I see muffins and cupcakes I don't see incense and crystals I see coffee in the background I don't see incense and crystals
Starting point is 01:41:57 I see a lot of maybe her name is crystals I see a lot of teeth I see all your teeth from the side. Yo, what incense you want later on tonight? You got a lot of teeth out. She's shaped like a tooth. You want that sandalwood tonight?
Starting point is 01:42:16 Yo. And you standing mighty close to that non-African woman, doctor. Yo, doc. Yo. I'm rolling with what Dr. Umar said. Of course he was just getting incense and chilling. That's it. Outside the kiosk.
Starting point is 01:42:31 Wait, hold up. Because next time he came to the mall, he didn't want to have to come inside for the incense. No, he didn't. You bring him outside. No, she went for the Christmas. She had the smells on her phone. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Oh, yeah. She was showing him the smells. Yo, I got these two. Nah, dog. Somebody tweeted the thing and said So wait let me get this right You spending black dollars On white incense
Starting point is 01:42:53 You not buying white incense are you You not buying Non-African crystals That's what I was doing No white sage Just the regular sage. His reaction is telling me that. It's a little bit more here, bro.
Starting point is 01:43:07 He kept going. That's the white bar of black soap. It's when you get that black soap, but it's not black. It's like something else. I wanted some Dove, man. Y'all think he beat? I'm joking. Don't answer that.
Starting point is 01:43:21 Don't answer that. I was sprinting. Nah, he wanted some Dove. It's a long talk about incense. I'll tell you that one. Yeah, I don't even understand how incense and crystals come up. And why is she typing in her phone? Pointing at your phone.
Starting point is 01:43:33 Yeah. She got incense in the phone? Mm-hmm. No, you spelled that wrong. It's you. And for those of you who don't know who Dr. Umar is, Dr. Dr.
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Starting point is 01:43:48 I'm about to step out probably, right? Me too. Me too. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, we can't do that to Ish, yo. We can't do that to Ish. I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 01:44:00 I don't think y'all would have to step out. It was a joke. It was a joke. I love Dr. Umar. It might not be a joke. It's a joke. I don't give a fuck about that nigga. You don't think y'all would have to step out. It was a joke. It was a joke. I love that dude. It might not be a joke. It's a joke? I don't give a fuck about that nigga. You don't want that smoke.
Starting point is 01:44:09 Yeah, you don't want that smoke. Don't stop, yo. Not that smoke. It's Joe, yo. He read books, too. Stop, yo. Stop. He got muffins, too.
Starting point is 01:44:16 Stop, yo. Well, that's cool, like. See? See? You know I'm in construction. Little foundation Sheet rock What does that mean to you man?
Starting point is 01:44:29 I don't know He's here to help That's what he's saying Yeah that's what I'm saying Well you gotta get the permits I don't know You gotta get the permits I know
Starting point is 01:44:37 I don't know what he's saying I got the blood Because he tucked his balls between his What'd you say I don't know nothing about real estate Construction School Evidently him neither It's cool bro Stop Move on bro Move on bro balls between us. What'd you say? I don't know nothing about real estate, construction, school.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Evidently him neither. It's cool, bro. Stop. Move on, bro. Move on, bro. Move on, bro. Nah, the issue. I'm hard. That might be the one.
Starting point is 01:44:54 Yo, it's so easy to get black men to betray each other, yo. Give me a dollar, man. Yo, it's so... A little snow in the mix. A little green. Oh, my God, no.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Oh, man God, no. It's toxic. Oh, man, yo. A little snow in the mix. Where do y'all be meeting these white girls? In the mall, nigga. Huh? In the mall. The kiosk.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Oh, man. This guy's crazy. Y'all be trying to make me get... Y'all be trying to make me y'all be trying to make me address shit today nah no I'm gonna grow up right before y'all very eyes you said where'd you meet him what
Starting point is 01:45:34 where's my phone we not gonna talk about this not yet more important things to get to y'all know i watched the scripts national spelling bee every year maybe some of you don't i didn't know you were that invested can't miss it what was the uh what was the highlight word this year what was the championship round the championship round was the winner spelling like 30 to 40 hard words correctly in
Starting point is 01:46:07 30 seconds she smoked she went crazy that's why i wanted i never saw that before they changed the format it was i never saw the spell off before it was the first one the first oh they jazzing up the spelling that's dope they must have changed the form but listen so this this young lady she's 14 years old uh her any logan is her name, round of applause because she was up there just going crazy with the words. I don't remember any of them. But while it was on, I saw someone say, which I thought was a bright idea. Hey, they need to have a dumb people spelling bee. Like of just regular words and see if we can spell them.
Starting point is 01:46:46 Necessary is always going to catch me. Fuck you, that restaurant coming in is over. I thought that that was such a great concept that I wanted to ask you, gentlemen, how do you think y'all would fare in that kind of spelling bee?
Starting point is 01:46:59 A regular word, dumb people spelling bee. With all of us? Yeah. I'm not the greatest. Well, no, I submit. I'm of us? Yeah. I'm not the greatest. Well, no, I submit. I'm winning. I submit.
Starting point is 01:47:07 I'm losing this. I was in the house. My memory has failed me. I am the Charles. You read the dictionary and shit? Psychopedia, the whole shit. I can spell all of it. I'm going to win.
Starting point is 01:47:17 Why do you think that? Because I was in the house, nigga. Wait, you didn't say. Well, answer yourself first, and then let's engage. How do you think you would do? In here? No, in that competition. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:47:27 I think I'll do well. Spelling is... You think you would pass the second round? Yeah, absolutely. You think you would win, Parks? Yeah, I'd probably second round. How many rounds is there? Three.
Starting point is 01:47:38 Oof. Let's say there's three rounds. Or four. Spelling is the strongest suit. So then submit. Why are you even in this? No, I didn't know how many rounds it was. Three?
Starting point is 01:47:48 Yeah, I'll probably make it to the second round, and then I'll be, you know what I mean? Someone get me. Well, I thought that that was such a great idea that why not try it here? Okay. So I just wrote it. No, now.
Starting point is 01:48:02 Oh, you're going to throw some words out there. Yeah, I wrote some down Alright I wrote a few words down In case you guys were down For this type of play Sure Gotta be regular words now
Starting point is 01:48:18 When you doing dumb nigga shit Try SAT word me Don't T.I. me So now you a little nervous No I'm just telling you what you said. Who goes first? I'll go first.
Starting point is 01:48:27 I have three words for Parks, three words for Ish, three words for Ice in our spell off. Okay. All right. I feel like we need theme music. Parks is first, and he just so happened to take my very first word, so I will give it to him necessarily. Oh, fuck. I'm out for a one. Hey, Alex, as I say these words,
Starting point is 01:48:52 just pull up the definition so I can read it to our audience. No, no, no, no, he can't pull up the definition because the word is going to be on the screen. Oh, yeah, no, no, no. I won't look. I won't look. Well, let him try to spell it first. Is it S or C that it starts with?
Starting point is 01:49:03 I don't know. You cannot ask us. I know. Use it in a sentence. You know how they do it. Give me the root. Yeah. This is my one word.
Starting point is 01:49:12 Why did you have to pick the one word? I'm out. And he throws it serious. You won't even try. No, I won't. So you out? I'm out. I'm out.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Well, you still got two more words. I got two more words. Yeah, man. You might get two out of three this round. You should have given me that as a championship. It's funny because the first round is the easiest. Nah, necessary is my one. Who goes next between Ice and Ish?
Starting point is 01:49:31 Who's next? I don't care. I'll go. Audience, bear with me. I think this is cool. I think this is fun. Who's next? Ish is next.
Starting point is 01:49:40 Ish is pretty good. But first round is easy. Ish, how do you spell committee woman? Committee woman? Yes. It's all one word? Yes. I'm going to find some Snoop Dogg thing.
Starting point is 01:49:59 C-O-M-M-I-T. Is it two T's or one? I am stupid C-O-M-M-I I'm gonna find some Snoop Dogg music Oh my god T-T-E-E Is it hyphenated?
Starting point is 01:50:20 No, it's one word, man It's one word W-O-M-A-N Wait, you did it? You spelled spelled it wait all right give it to me c-o-m-m-i we're on a pod you have to you gotta think nigga you gave me a 14 letter word um is it one t or two yeah the only hard part is the t alex you're not trying to help him are you Is it one T or two? No.
Starting point is 01:50:47 Yeah, the only hard part is the T. Alex, you're not trying to help him, are you? No, help my guy. Not a word from him. I spelled it already. I didn't hear him. Did you give up or not? I spelled it. Is it two Ts or one?
Starting point is 01:50:56 Two. So continue. I said it. E-E-W-O-M-A-N. Okay, got it. All right, so you ready? Yeah Give me
Starting point is 01:51:08 Maneuver M-A-N M-A-N Maneuver M-A-N Use it in a sentence You trying to maneuver your way out of this world I will use it in a sentence for you as you think.
Starting point is 01:51:27 My side chick tried to jam me up with wifey. Luckily for me. I know how to maneuver in these situations. M-A-N-U. Get this nigga out of here. Get this nigga out of here, yo. Can you stop showing off? You let him try to do it. You had 15 minutes.
Starting point is 01:51:50 Yeah, let him get his shit on. Hold up, nigga. Okay. M-A-N-E-U It's the U. U. M-A-N-E-U-V-E-R Yeah, you would've got kicked off The real one
Starting point is 01:52:12 I just don't like how you just Said you gonna win So now I'm taking it to the low circle Parks is out of here already We have a two man faceoff You're not out Ice too though You're not out
Starting point is 01:52:21 I'm out No, you're not out Because Right, so like Let's say Parks gets The next two right And we get the next two wrong He would still win not out I'm out No you're not out Because Right so like Let's say Parks gets The next two right And we get the next two wrong He wants to win
Starting point is 01:52:28 Okay I'm ready Parks Yes The word I have for you Yes Is Calabasas That's a tough one too C-A-L-A
Starting point is 01:52:38 B-A-S-A-S Fight back That's right Yes B-A-S-I-S. Fight back! That's right. Yes. That is correct. I spell that according to this. Ish. I bring to you the word...
Starting point is 01:53:00 This is great. Martyrdom. That's a tough one too. M-A-R-T-Y-R-D-O-M. Ish is on your ass, Ice. Ish is on your ass. Ice. Ice, I bring to you.
Starting point is 01:53:26 Demagnetize. D-E-M-A-G-N. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. This is weird. D-E-M-A-G-N. This could get tricky. Okay, D-E-M-A-G-N-E-T-I-Z-E. And we have a spell off.
Starting point is 01:53:50 We have a spell off. I kind of want Parks to win a little bit. Why? To wipe my ice and fold ice is cold because he's trash I'm bad he's horrible he's like as bad as me I'm not a good speller
Starting point is 01:54:10 he just sat out I'm not a good speller so forgive me because you're my man and we all get to get a word for you too just so you know
Starting point is 01:54:16 I don't care I'm dumb now fucking dusted my brains away I bring to you I'm ready who and nanny my brains away. I bring to you I'm ready. Hootenanny. W-H-O-O-T-A-N-Y.
Starting point is 01:54:33 I said I don't know what I don't know what I don't know if I've ever read that word. I will repeat the word for you and I will use it in a sentence. The word Hootenanny? is Hootenanny. I will repeat the word for you and I will use it in a sentence. The word
Starting point is 01:54:45 is hootenanny. I submit. I don't know. And it goes hey, you little bastards better cut it out in that yard with all of that hootenanny.
Starting point is 01:55:01 Oh shit. Yeah, Parks is out of here. I'm not going to hold you. Yeah, Parks is out of here. I'm not going to hold you. I'd have been out of here. H-O-O-T-E-N-A-N-Y? I don't know. He was close. He was close.
Starting point is 01:55:16 He was close. How do you spell that shit? I don't know. It's a hootenanny? I thought that was a made up word. H-O-O-T-E-N-A-N-N-Y. Hootenanny. Oh, it's like it sounds.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Okay. Yo, that's some slang, my man. That's some fucked up ass word, man. You know what? I thought that that was probably the easiest word that I had written down here. Hootenanny. But I'm familiar with Hootenanny. Me too.
Starting point is 01:55:36 I don't think I ever asked y'all. I didn't ask y'all because y'all be with the Hootenanny. No. I never saw it written. You ever read that into like a book or something? I had a lot of thought of it going to W2. All right. I'm I never saw it written. Yeah, I don't think I ever read that into like a book or something. I had a lot of thought of being able to W2 it.
Starting point is 01:55:46 All right, Ish. I'm glad that was your word. Ish, let's get right to it. Let's get right to it. Dilettante. Damn.
Starting point is 01:55:54 I've never even heard that word before. All right. Let me help you. I'll give it to you. Hold up. I'm with you.
Starting point is 01:56:03 This is not stupid people. It's the third round. It's the third round. What do y'all want me to do? You started me with my Achilles heel. That was rough. He said you started it. That's fucked up.
Starting point is 01:56:16 Dilettante. A person who takes up an art, activity, or subject merely for amusement, especially in a desultory or superficial way. A lover of an art or science, especially of a fine art.
Starting point is 01:56:35 This last round is where we get tough, John. Hey, y'all, look. Diligent got one L, two L's. D-I-L. I will play my Jeopardy theme music I feel like the word is French in origin If that helps I shouldn't be giving you
Starting point is 01:56:47 Any clues It does sound French in origin Yes It does sound that way Let's let architecture Put it together D-I-L-I
Starting point is 01:56:56 Wait wait What did you say D-I-L-I Okay Wrong That's wrong That's wrong Yeah
Starting point is 01:57:02 So far I'm going to do like I did. D-I-L-L-I. T-A-U-N-T. That was a, you fucked it. Goddamn. Yo, we stupid. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:57:21 I don't care. All right, call me when it's real quick, man. Give me a word. Yo, we stupid. It's okay. I don't care. All right, call me a witness real quick, man. Give me a word. Wait, what's the score right now?
Starting point is 01:57:30 If Ice gets this wrong, then you and Ish go into an overtime round. Yeah. Same word. Can't do that. Spell off. It's my own word. It's not my own word. Spell off.
Starting point is 01:57:38 You want that spell off. No, it's a spell off, Ice. Get the fuck out of here. You said you had three words for Park. No. You said you had three words for Ice. I want Ice's third word. That was the rules. That's a good one. Give me my own word. That's a good No. There's three words for ice. I want ice as third word. That was the rules.
Starting point is 01:57:46 That's a good one. You want a word. That's a good one. You've been chasing it. Fuck you. Ice. Yes. Your round three word is feign.
Starting point is 01:57:58 You said dilettante. Feign. Feign is a German background, which means a warm, dry wind descending a mountain Fane is a German background, which means a warm, dry wind descending a mountain as on the north side of the Alps. Wouldn't it also be like to feign interest in something? That's a totally different word. Is it really?
Starting point is 01:58:16 Okay. Yes. It's a homonym. Okay. Huh. Fane. Spell homonym. I'm talking gold.
Starting point is 01:58:23 It's a noun. Vane. Spell homonym. I'm talking... Go. It's a noun. Why are you looking at me, son? I'm trying to think. I can't think which album.
Starting point is 01:58:32 Yo, I think this is the greatest idea in the history of... Vane. Like... Oh, shit. Alex can't even spell it. All right. I'm going to just shoot out there. No, this is tough, dog.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Yeah, yeah. No, this one's nuts P-H-A-N-E Nigga You would have never felt this way None of us Hey yo fam Yo, I got a pod to produce
Starting point is 01:58:58 I have a pod to produce Nobody in I know could have spelled that word I didn't know that version of feign. Do you know how this shit is spelled? No, I can't see. F-O-E-H-N. F-O. F-O-E-H-N.
Starting point is 01:59:10 I'm not familiar with that feign. If you were, F-O-E-H-N. Yeah. Give me an English word. That shit didn't even count. We was doing dumb nigga words. Yeah, dumb nigga words. It got to be.
Starting point is 01:59:22 Yeah, it got to be something. At least in this country. Oh, then I would have saved. Who would nanny then? No, that's English. No, that's black too. Yeah, we got to, and dumb nigga words have got to be. Yeah, it got to be something, at least in this country. Oh, then I would have saved who, Nanny, then? No, that's English.
Starting point is 01:59:27 Nah, that's black, too. Yeah, that's nigga. That's dumb nigga shit. All right, so I got to come back because my last word,
Starting point is 01:59:32 I don't know if it's of English, but this last word, oh yeah, y'all was done. So we have a tie between ish and ice until we think of
Starting point is 01:59:40 another word. I'll come back. That's fine. But this is that word, and what am I getting at? Throw the word out there. What is it? Just throw it out there.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Well, no, because I want to make sure that I pull up the meaning. Hold up. Bong, bong. Oh, don't look at my shit. Look at you got the privacy screen.
Starting point is 01:59:55 That's a black screen, my nigga. Yeah, sure, you still know the bitch is on the screen. Yo, you good. All right. My last word.
Starting point is 02:00:07 Hey, hey. My last word. And this was of French. Again. Go with the bullshit. Is fichu. Fichu.
Starting point is 02:00:23 A woman's kerchief or shawl. Not just a woman's. What the fuck is wrong with him? I wear this. Generally triangular in shape, worn draped over the shoulders or around the neck with the ends drawn together to the breast. It's French, right? Yes. All right, so that means it's not going to be what I think.
Starting point is 02:00:42 Ice might be trying to smoke it, yo. He trying to figure it out. But this is not the one. I'll figure out a word and come back. F might be trying to smoke it, yo. He trying to figure it out. But this is not the way. I'll figure out a word and come back. F-O. No, but go ahead. I got a spelling. Don't tell him if he wrong.
Starting point is 02:00:51 All right, go ahead. I go first? Yeah. F-I-C-H-U. Holy shit. Wait, hold on. It's French. Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:01:08 Mine is different to Ice's. What you got? Let's hear it. F-I-S-C-H-E-L. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner. Ice is correct. That didn't count, bitch ass niggas.
Starting point is 02:01:22 C-H-U. We said that one later. Oh, yeah. Nah, I think I should say that. Y'all call it. I spelled three words. Y'all call it. I spelled three words.
Starting point is 02:01:32 I spelled three words. It's cool. Yeah, but- Did you spell three words? I did not. Did you spell three words? I got one almost. I need the little red line.
Starting point is 02:01:41 Yeah, but I might be with Ish, because we didn't say that that was the official word. That's fine. You said you had a spelling. He said he did, too. We'll come back later with a because we didn't say that that was the official word. I think that's fine. You said you had a spelling. He said he did too. We'll come back later with a word. That was a nice spell off.
Starting point is 02:01:49 One word. That was beautiful. I liked that. No, round of applause for both of you. No, we didn't agree to that. Come back later. Both of you are better than me. I just,
Starting point is 02:01:55 he said quench. I'm thinking like. I will find an English word and we will be back. Now if we're going to do like, if it's going gonna be remedial spelled we need easier words these words were fucking hard
Starting point is 02:02:09 in the third round I couldn't give you cock broaches ladies and gentlemen not often am I honored not often am I inspired me and a couple gunshots so we let them know they're saying that piece of shit not often will i leave a vacation early to come and talk to a guest and i didn't But we have the amazing, the legendary, the iconic Nick Cannon here with us. He's here, yo.
Starting point is 02:02:54 He's here. Listen. I love you, man. Listen, for years, I thought he was avoiding the smoke, staying safe in the little Howard library. I didn't know what was going on come on man you my guy i've been waiting i've been waiting for this moment i'm honored we're glad to have you here come on man thanks for coming through man yeah i'm a fan i'm locked in always thank you i appreciate it uh we have spoken behind the scenes so i know that you mean that or at least i feel it sincere
Starting point is 02:03:25 but you never know with niggas that's close to a billion like you right listen like y'all are good with that shit y'all could smile when it ain't a smile y'all could shake a hand when it's so i mean that's how we got here yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah. I mean, you getting there, too, though. Like, I would say you were definitely on your Howard Stern shit. Like, if it ain't, it's going to happen for you because of what you did. Where I cleaned it up? Not even where you cleaned it up, but because you built this, I don't give a fuck. I'm doing me my way, and people have to come to me to get my shit. That's what Stern did.
Starting point is 02:04:01 So you built for it, man. I'm going to be trying to get a loan from Joe soon. I'm telling you. Oh, my God. The nigga got good, man. He's the greatest. The nigga got the voice. He got one of the best voices in hip hop, Paul's.
Starting point is 02:04:21 You know what I mean? See, that's why I wore my legs out for Nick today, yo. That's why I wore my Hooch for Nick today yo that's why I wore my hoochie daddy shorts man I had to put something more I'm confused I'm confused by this
Starting point is 02:04:30 hoochie daddy term I'm not gonna subscribe to it until it's too much I think it's the length of the short but even like I don't want
Starting point is 02:04:36 I don't even want to say hoochie daddy I don't understand that's like oxymoron yeah we not hoochie daddy not nowadays though
Starting point is 02:04:45 Let's call him Something different Like I'm not I don't know My thing is Women keep trying To take away the shorts Right like
Starting point is 02:04:53 They were largely Responsible for Camouflaged shorts Being out of here I'm never getting rid of them Yeah Men never wanted To leave those
Starting point is 02:04:59 Women say I'm not leaving them Y'all still doing those I might cut them A little shorter now I mean I'm not comfortable With having my thighs out I'm just I'm keeping it stacked I'm with you I'm with you him. Y'all still doing those? I might cut him a little shorter now. I'm not comfortable with having my thighs out.
Starting point is 02:05:06 I'm just going to keep it a stack. I'm with you. I'm with you. My shit got hit my arm. But it's hard to get something to go below the knee. I'm on vacation. I'm on vacation. Am I on vacation?
Starting point is 02:05:15 Thighs could be out. No. Nah. Even then, I don't feel comfortable. Nah. I don't know what y'all talking about. It's hard to find something to go to the knees, though, nowadays. You 6'5".
Starting point is 02:05:25 Well, I'm tall, so it's even more difficult for me, but still. I mean, Nick is saying that about his thighs, but, I mean, I watch your workout routines. You're doing pull-ups for an hour. This shirtless beating himself on his stomach. Like, what are you doing? What's going on out there? You be like, I'd be inspired to almost work out.
Starting point is 02:05:45 I'm like, damn, if Nick goes to just beat on his stomach a hundred times, then fuck it. You got it. But no, speak to that. Speak to the, speak to the. Man. What is it? You on some health journey shit? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:56 I've always been a little dude. You know what I mean? And been real insecure about my legs. That's even one of the things I can't fuck with the hoochie daddy shit. Because no matter how many pull ups and shit I do I also have skinny legs this shit is never it's genetic
Starting point is 02:06:08 I'm Spike Tyson I'm Spike Lee down here Mike Tyson up here I can relate but yeah man my health journey
Starting point is 02:06:16 loop is 2012 where I thought I was like in super great health was taking all type of fucking supplements and protein shakes and shit and
Starting point is 02:06:23 kidney failure. I mean, bottom line, like, you know, I was in the middle of a workout out in Aspen, you know what I mean? Vacation with Mariah and the family thinking this is the greatest time ever and literally almost lost my life. And from that point on, it was just cutting out all of the bullshit. I went, I've done every diet possible from possible from you know they put me on a renal diet which means like no processed foods no sodium from there i went from everything from being plant based to vegan all that's trying to figure it out right now i'm just trying to eat to live stay healthy and you know so what's your what does your diet look like now that's why i like i try i don't
Starting point is 02:07:00 even call it a diet no more man i'll just uh just... It's a way of life. Yeah, exactly. And food is fuel. If you look at it like that, like, I'll try to only put stuff into my body, or the majority of the stuff I put into my body is stuff that's going to make me better and give me energy. Other than that, like, you know, every once in a while, you know,
Starting point is 02:07:17 I'm still a fucking candy crackhead, but I know, like, I got to balance that shit out. You sitting right next to one. Yeah, yeah. But, like, in the morning, like, it's all fuel. It's just vegetables. It's oils. It's all of that stuff one. Yeah, yeah. But in the morning, it's all fuel. It's just vegetables. It's oils. It's all of that stuff to keep me grinding.
Starting point is 02:07:28 And then by the time you get to the little later hours where you can chill, that's where I'm kind of. Is that difficult to do with your career? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. How much sleep do you get? Like three hours. Three hours? Daily.
Starting point is 02:07:41 Yeah, yeah. So I'm up at 5 a.m every every morning so from there you know and that's when i'm putting the fuel that's why i'm taking my my oils the the vegetables all of that type of stuff uh and then so it's not really a breakfast the first thing that i actually eat is probably around lunchtime and then from there, you solid dinner, you eat whatever you want at dinner. I'm so, so glad that you went there. What I noticed as we age, or as I age,
Starting point is 02:08:14 is that health and stamina and your diet, all those things are really important to how you perform sexually. Facts. So if you weren't, if you weren't, I don't have no other question for you outside of sniper list questions.
Starting point is 02:08:29 We're going to get to the album. We're going to get the daytime. Get your shit on. You know what I'm saying? We're going to get to all that. But it's all about sniping. This diet, you can't fool me
Starting point is 02:08:41 with all this life lupus living shit. You can't fuck without this diet like you do. Facts. Facts. It has to be. That is one of the benefits of eating and operating the way that I do. That, you know, we out here. The Manuka honey is getting the nigga right.
Starting point is 02:08:59 Listen. Yeah, you're going crazy. But, okay, the album. Yes. There are joints on the album. Appreciate you. That means a lot coming from you, man. And it okay, the album. Yes. There are joints on the album. Appreciate you. That means a lot coming from you, man. And it's not the album.
Starting point is 02:09:08 The album's coming. The album, I worked with everybody from Babyface to Stevie Wonder. Like, it's on some real, like, we trying to go. You got to stop. You got to stop. Word up. Word up. But this shit was the mixtape.
Starting point is 02:09:20 This is the shit I came up with. You thought he came here to talk small shit? You know, the nigga like, yo, yo, yo. If you're Nick Cannon, are you going to be like, nah, I'm going to get Homeboy that plays the keyboards, or am I going to get Stevie Wonder? Stevie Wonder, Babyface, everybody's on the new album. But this ain't no bullshit either.
Starting point is 02:09:35 The reason why I say it's the best album, or the best project, because it's not an album, best project of 2022, because I got Chris Brown on there. I got Brandy on there. I got Ricky on there i got rick ross on there you know what i mean if you listen close you might hear mariah somewhere in that joint but it's so it's it's it's real talk like ain't nobody really doing it and then you know king r&b jacquees is even in there a couple of times we on there. Why you put an album out? Because you're just too rich.
Starting point is 02:10:06 You don't know what to do. Just bored and rich. I'm going to be honest. Honestly. He's like, yo, this was my first love. That shit too. But realistically, it's therapeutic for me. I mean, as somebody who goes to therapy a few times a week, my happiest is when I'm in the studio answering the motherfuckers in the comments.
Starting point is 02:10:23 Studio in the crib? Yeah. Well, i got an office i got i got a few studios i wish y'all stopped asking him i got one in the crib but the main one in the office but um but you know this is this is what the release especially the explicit tape i got to talk my shit i got to answer everything with the baby daddy questions and you know who's doing the sniper shit all of that's on there and i get to be a different type of nigga on different songs when i want to talk my shit with rick ross
Starting point is 02:10:56 i could talk about you had two versions you had a clean version well no because my album is mainstream it's like i said it's with the elites of Stevie Wonder and Babyface. And it's music. And it's orchestras and choirs. And you know what I mean? It's real music to show myself as a musician. This was me talking my shit on some Ron B shit. Some hip hop, get my niggas in there, do records with folks who dug.
Starting point is 02:11:20 Like that type of shit. Well, that's why I personally would never discount a project from you because of your longevity, number one, and your strong relationships with just people. Right. So like if you make a phone call, I'm not assuming some of my favorite acts to mail it in with you. Right, right. Like they're showing up for real. Facts, facts. And I mean, one of the reasons why I've always been a Joe Budden fan Just lyricism All of that type of stuff But the fact that I always felt like
Starting point is 02:11:49 We were kind of put in a similar box Early on Kind of Was out there around the same time Just where A different energy in hip hop It was the jiggy era It was
Starting point is 02:12:00 You know like even me being a A person who could sing and do It wasn't cool to sing You had to be tough. You had to talk your shit. And I came from Nickelodeon. So niggas really wouldn't want to hear me talk shit at all. And then Joe has such a record that was so on fire that when you put somebody up there like that, it's like, oh, he's pop.
Starting point is 02:12:20 You know what I mean? Like he went to a place where people forgot about the mixtapes and all that shit. He was like, he's Mr. Pump It Up so I was Mr. Gigolo he was Mr. Pump It Up and we was kind of out there at the same time and I was rooting for him
Starting point is 02:12:32 in the same way that he was rooting for me because and y'all was both sniping so I'll trade my Pump It Up for his drum line I remember one time
Starting point is 02:12:42 we was we was in some island MTV spring break some shit like that and it was a dinner and I'm a Joe Budden fan he's sitting there breaking bread
Starting point is 02:12:52 and he was he's literally I'm with someone you know what I mean and he was just like you're doing it he's like you're
Starting point is 02:13:01 he's like fuck what I cause I'm like yo I'm a fan he's like fuck what I got going on see cause contrary to popular belief right i've been outside for a little while so i was there and this is one of my fucking inspirations today but that don't mean i don't have a past so i 100 have hated on the canon in the past i'm 100 have hate when drumline was i don't know if
Starting point is 02:13:21 i was running around just saying go Nick I don't know right but when you just watch somebody be not only themselves but be great and kill for years in multiple fields
Starting point is 02:13:35 right like when you see these people in person and you see the girl that they with it helps you to reevaluate your life and the things that you do
Starting point is 02:13:43 and the girl that you're with and the girl that you can attract and the girl that you can attract. And then you just give a little head nod across the, yo. I see you. You though. You though. Yo, on that sniper list,
Starting point is 02:13:56 because I know you've had this talk before. This is going to give me so much fucking trouble. Fuck it, we in. No, it ain't. Listen, if 20 kids don't get you in trouble, you can have this talk. Listen, where do you rank yourself
Starting point is 02:14:09 without your media training and your publicist in the back on the sniper list, yo? Do I start naming other individuals? I mean, you don't have to,
Starting point is 02:14:21 but you can. I mean, you don't have to. If you want to, you can. We don't pressure people. No, as you put it out mean, you don't have to, but you can. I mean. You don't have to. If you want to, you can. We don't pressure people here. As you put it out there, the people with the sniper list, they talk about the drakes and all of those types. But the ones that I feel like don't get talked about. You about to go crazy.
Starting point is 02:14:39 The ones I feel don't get talked about enough is the Justin Timberlakes, is the Mark Wahlbergs. You know what I mean? Because, again, they got publicist and protection. The Leonardo DiCaprio. He's on the top. Derek Jeter. Derek Jeter, of course. But see, he was sloppy with his, too.
Starting point is 02:14:59 So we talked about him. I mean, but pretty good overall. But the ones that kind of disguised theirs. Derek Jeter? Derek Jeter. He was pretty good. It was known, but it was never no messy shit. Even with his targets, his targets is like
Starting point is 02:15:12 elite. Even how he speaks of the list is of the elite. Y'all not even kidding. No, no, no. Since he sat down, fam, y'all just let him breeze through the, yo, yeah, you know I was in Aspen and I was working out. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:15:25 Yeah, no. That nigga's talking about Leo. They're even good for working out. He's talking about Leo and all them niggas. So I would say I'm in that bunch. Me too. I think that's a fair assumption, yeah. Because the thing about the sniper list is-
Starting point is 02:15:41 Well, what he said was, yo, take me out of the Drake mix that you guys- No, he said- That's dope. No, that's what he said. But- Low key, he said, look, y'all don't even know half of them. That's what I said. That's the key to a sniper.
Starting point is 02:15:53 Y'all know Drake's, yo. Y'all know them niggas. Y'all don't know what I was doing at 26. That's the key to a sniper. That's what he's saying, fam. And I always felt very like, oh, the ones y'all know about, that's why I was so open and free to talk about all the ones that I'm in paparazzi pictures with because there's an elite bunch that don't want to be mentioned. I guess that, you know, by definition, the sniper should be a sniper.
Starting point is 02:16:18 You didn't know I was there when I killed you. You know, exactly. It was me and my spider. That's the key to a sniper. When did you first learn that you were a sniper, though? When did you learn that you were him?
Starting point is 02:16:29 Because I think you were still shocked when you got Mariah, nigga. I didn't see it in your face, but he was just shocked. That nigga was showing us the dog houses on TV, all types of wild shit. You were shocked?
Starting point is 02:16:39 Yeah. I mean, I knew I could definitely, I knew it wasn't unachievable. I never even said that word. How do you spell it? That's a good word. That's it.
Starting point is 02:16:53 That's your line, it's unachievable. There's nothing. Nothing unachievable. And in that sense, because I guess I'm going to be honest, when Drumline happened, it got different for me. Because I've been in this game since the 90s, and I've been the kid looking up. So I tried to pop out of Leah a bunch of times. And I would be hanging out in front of Destiny's Shows. We did homeschooling together on the set of Nickelodeon shit.
Starting point is 02:17:21 Stop, yo. I'm just saying, these are real. I've been since mid 90's trying to be that guy but once drumline happened for me I didn't have to
Starting point is 02:17:34 try to holler no more and it was different like I didn't know like I literally stepped into like no that's a grown woman
Starting point is 02:17:41 she wanna fuck alright like it was like I didn't know what to do. Because when you become a leading man in a successful film. I never even said leading man. He's killing it.
Starting point is 02:17:52 He's going to kill it. Like, it's different. It's completely different. Michael B. Jordan might know what I'm talking about. Like, because when you step. Stop it, yo. I mean. Stop it, yo.
Starting point is 02:18:05 Stop it. I'm just talking... It's different when you're a leading man... He tried it. He tried it. I'm just saying. It's different. That's all I'm saying. So when that happened for me, my whole life changed, and I was like, okay, now I gotta
Starting point is 02:18:18 be careful. I got a question, so you can go ahead. Whatever you have to say. Nah, do your thing. You said you do or you don't? No, I just... What the fuck are you talking about? Michael B. Jordan can't.
Starting point is 02:18:26 Because you know why? These niggas is in the internet generation. Nigga, you 41 years old. You had people pulling up in the black planet in MySpace days when nobody knew who was coming to my house. And you live in L.A. L.A. is different too, yo. It gets deeper than that, yo.
Starting point is 02:18:45 I've heard some stories. Sometimes you got to re. LA is different too. It gets deeper than that, yo. Sometimes you gotta reintroduce people to people. I won't allow us to talk about Nick with Michael B. Jordan. That's good. And he's from Jersey. Shout out to him. But the thing about it is
Starting point is 02:19:01 Nick looked around one day and had so many women he was forced to make a show out of it. I don't know if people are understanding how he even came up with Wildin' Out and the name and the concept. It was biographical? Yo, I got all the baddest chicks and conceited yo and i'll be wild and i'll be wild now yo so listen right this is weird thing amongst men where like where you learn about how much respect you have for a man as a man is interesting, right? So, on the way here, we was talking about P from Quality Control had a party in Atlanta.
Starting point is 02:19:53 Yeah. And it was beautiful. Yeah, it was. Like, it was really beautiful. Like, excellent. And they was all there. They was all there. Nothing.
Starting point is 02:20:00 They was all there. It was in there. All of them was in there. No, they were there. All the girls that purposely don't say hi back to you when you dm them was there and you figured out why they're not oh god it's all you have to say right so your respect level goes up for men when you can centralize that way my first time doing while and how i thought I was coming to perform and for a great look
Starting point is 02:20:28 and it would help my career this visibility. That was fun, man. I was just talking about that the other night, that show. That's not what I was there for. Yeah. Who'd you was there for, Joe?
Starting point is 02:20:36 Can't even say. I can't even say. I know. I don't even know. I can't even say. I can't even say. I wasn't even saying. I know what you was there for.
Starting point is 02:20:43 No, I can't say. I think it was a successful show, though. It might have been a successful few summers. I had to thank this nigga in my head. God dang. Got him all over this place. Right. So now just talk to me about how you came up with the, I'm joking, but the concept for Wildin' Out.
Starting point is 02:21:02 Talk to me about the successful run. Some of the behind-the-scenes turmoil that went public. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk all about it. And how it got resolved. So, honestly, it goes back to 2004 when, just so you know what I'm talking about, I'm a leading man. I'm popping. I'm in movies. I've stepped away from Nickelodeon All the television stuff Because now
Starting point is 02:21:25 I got a record label And people are saying Nick Why do you want to go back To television Why would you ever Go back to television To women
Starting point is 02:21:34 And No but in that sense It's like really To put my My fam on My crew At a time We would hang out
Starting point is 02:21:43 In these comedy clubs The comedy store to improv the last factory in la and it'd be we'd be out on the corner and it's me and people that had nobody had ever heard of at the time like you know kat williams and d ray davis kevin hart afr crockett and you know when we sit in there they like nigga, nigga, you on. And we all came, I just got a name. I was like, but they like,
Starting point is 02:22:07 what you, put us on. And so in that, I was like, yo, we should do a show about the fuck we doing right here. Like out here talking shit,
Starting point is 02:22:14 freestyling, cracking on each other's mamas, you know. And so I rented out a comedy club off of Pico, you know what I mean, with my own bread,
Starting point is 02:22:23 got some cameras, got the squad together. No network. No network. Got it. Shot it. You know what I mean? I had a deal.
Starting point is 02:22:31 You know what I mean? I had a deal at MTV. I had been hosting TRL, and I had a deal at BET. So that's what happens when you get put on. You do deals different places, and they want to see what you got. But instead of just going in and pitching some stuff that they didn't understand i'm gonna i shot it with my own money and now i have ownership over this thing that i call wilding out and when they saw that they was like absolutely one like first first pilot episode it was me kevin hart loon was the special guy i had loons to come pull
Starting point is 02:23:02 up he was on fire at the time yeah yeah Loon, shot Loon. Yeah, yeah. And we shot it in this club. The Wild N' Out girls was literally like friends. It was... I know. Yeah, yeah. We got it. Without dropping the names,
Starting point is 02:23:18 it was invisible faces. And MTV loved it. And from that, for whatever reason, great lawyers lawyers great attorneys I was able to keep my brand and have ownership over this throughout the years so you look up
Starting point is 02:23:34 you know by the time time goes around long story short by the time we get to 2017 they're like yo and we on tour now I got restaurants
Starting point is 02:23:47 they look, Viacom looks up and they're like we don't own this you know like all these years later they said that because if you notice and I feel like when Wildin' Out first came out my competition was pumped.
Starting point is 02:24:05 It was me and Ashton Kutcher. And that was the one that they held up and they embraced him. So they let Nick do his little thing. We got pumped. And what Nick's doing over there with the hip hop guys, it doesn't matter. Yeah, whatever, whatever. And then you outlasted them. And then I outlasted them.
Starting point is 02:24:20 And then they got another guy that they got really excited about. I was like, oh, we got Ridiculousness. Yeah, Ridiculousness. They had on that stunt. Another one of those. All right. Another one of those. That's cool.
Starting point is 02:24:30 But the whole time, I'm over here quiet, grinding. You know, like... Inascending. Yeah. Yeah, but then they look back and see the numbers
Starting point is 02:24:38 in totality and they're like... And then they look up and it's a billion dollar brand that has many verticals from touring, from brick and mortar, merchandise, gaming, restaurants. You're using them words. Like, so none of their other brands have done that. Still their number one digital brand to this day is Wild N Out.
Starting point is 02:24:59 If you look at the numbers and everything that it does. And they have to pay attention to it now. So in 2017, they're like, okay, we got to be your partner there's like we can't allow this we look crazy to our shareholders if you own all of this on our network so you know there's some quiet deals and and they got me real comfortable in order to give up half of what i want and and i say this to anybody who's watching this. To have 100% of nothing, something that's not worth anything, is bullshit. So all the people who want to own their masters and all of that bullshit, if ain't nobody listening to your fucking masters, it's worth nothing. But if you have 50% with a conglomerate, with a partner who will push you to the next level,
Starting point is 02:25:43 that's worth more than 100% of nothing. So in that sense, I sat down with my team and was like, if you enhance this this way, if you support it, if you invest, that's what investing is. That's how you put these financial groups together. You get a bunch of people with money and say, now we own this together, and now it's worth this. So that's what I pretty much did with Viacom and Paramount. And now that we're partners, the touring has gone to the next level. Now I was touring on my own. Now we touring with Live Nation.
Starting point is 02:26:11 Slow down. It probably takes some stress off your back too. Yeah, exactly. Slow it down, buddy. We're putting a lot of information out there, and I want to pause on some of this. Because what we were talking about before you got here in music was artists
Starting point is 02:26:25 that are four or five and six albums in with the label. And now that we're down to the last album and it may be time to renegotiate or y'all invest money to make me bigger. Y'all might not want to do that. And now it appears that really big artists are getting their projects stepped on. So now when you say, hey, they looked up all these years later and realized they didn't own. Now, that took them a long time. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:52 That took them a long time. They were looking in the wrong direction. But my thing with you before you get to the resolve is, well, if they felt like that, why did it appear to be a campaign to disassociate you from the brand well then we'll get to that so because because this is 20 this is 2017 and i'm still like you gotta admit like i'm the golden boy of viacom at this is like because not only did i have mtv on like i had nickelodeon on like from 2008 or 2008 9 to 2018 i was the chairman and head executive of the teen division of nickelodeon so i was the chairman like so i went from being 17 on the channel the youngest we could
Starting point is 02:27:35 jump rider and all of that to to running it i had we need to jump this nigga. I had the same office size as the CEO. You know what I mean? I was on the 40th floor. He was on the 54th floor. Same layout. In Times Square. I was that guy. And that was just Nickelodeon.
Starting point is 02:27:55 Not to mention, I had another office on the MTV floor. I didn't even get to Fox yet. We ain't got there yet. This nigga's crazy. This is just vodka. I mean not personal Like once I got married With Mariah
Starting point is 02:28:06 I threw the suits on I was like I want to be a corporate nigga For a minute So I literally went in And got a corporate job I became I got a job at Def Jam
Starting point is 02:28:14 I was under L.A. Reid I ran the teen division Of Island And I ran the teen division Of Nickelodeon At the same time And that's where We developed
Starting point is 02:28:22 Justin Bieber He came out of that like there's so many other projects like it was projects that i was quiet on that i was getting so so what you're saying is we're all broke but i just i've been hustling for a long time so during that phase in my life i was on my corporate let me throw some hate on this let me at least attempt to throw because listening to him like listen to him what he just said uh well one of the things he said was that in oh three he was allowed to get deals from separate networks i was still stuck on that sentence because everybody was not allowed to do that in 2003. If you over here, hey, nigga, we running all your shit through over here.
Starting point is 02:29:08 You can't go over there. That's what was happening in 2003. But Nick, because he was the man back then, and that's kind of what I want to talk about. How did you come into that position? I don't know because I wasn't paying attention from the start. But how did you walk in to this? How did you attain such leverage at such an early age? So, I mean, I'm going to keep it a stack.
Starting point is 02:29:31 I mean, it was the relationships and the fact that I was the young dude that everybody wanted to be in business with, and the first person that I got in business. But how'd you become that even? So, I was doing stand-up. I was hustling. I was doing stand-up and music simultaneously in L.A. So I was an anomaly.
Starting point is 02:29:48 Probably 15, 16. It's 95, 96. That's already crazy, by the way. That's crazy. Enough, enough. So if you see the Fat Tuesday documentary
Starting point is 02:29:56 that they just put out there, I was the kid. I was the... So it was Chris Tucker. It was Chappelle. And then me, this kid. And I was literally... Everybody from Shaq to Jamie Foxx like I used to sleep on Jamie Foxx couch to like drive from school in San Diego and I would sleep on Jamie Foxx couch to go do stand-up the next morning and head back
Starting point is 02:30:17 to school type shit so they knew of me so by the time 96 went on and just to know what the industry was i was just talking to get there yeah like at 15 like you were i was just i mean i was a kid telling jokes and rhyming like right making cds this is before the internet so it's not like you had a viral moment we would drive up that was the thing so they used to do these things to have like sprite night and soul train awards and stuff and like you we would drive the two hours to be sunset used to be a fucking movie like i remember driving out sunset one time in like no shit like biggie and mace was across the street you know at the things the mondry or it was the house of blues over here biggie and mace was just standing there and they like gray suits across the street with snoop in the dog pound at the comedy Store and Low Riders.
Starting point is 02:31:09 His nigga name, my guy from Oakland, Richie Richie, was signed to Def Jam. He was riding up and down Sunset on an orange Harley. Aaliyah and Mark Pitts, niggas was outside for real. And you got excited about shit called Sprite Night and the BET. So you would just pop up places? It Night and the BET like well I don't even you were talking about the BET Awards it was the Soul Train Awards back then
Starting point is 02:31:28 and I was a kid in all of this shit the Lakers would just be riding up and down in Rolls Royces and shit like and it was just so I was in the middle
Starting point is 02:31:36 of this and once and I was the kid so they're like who the fuck is this little kid it was like me and Ray J you know what I mean
Starting point is 02:31:43 like we were the youngest niggas out there like legend who the fuck is this little kid? It's like me and Ray J. You know what I mean? Like, we were the youngest niggas out there. Legend, Ray J. Like, legend. Like, I remember being,
Starting point is 02:31:48 this nigga had like a Lexus Land Cruiser on. These niggas got good friend groups. These niggas got good fucking friend groups from 14, yo.
Starting point is 02:31:56 One of the first sentences he said was, yo, I don't know how I pulled this off, but my lawyer was amazing. Still, same lawyer since I was
Starting point is 02:32:02 16 years old. Nigga, he said, yo, I don't know how my lawyer worked this deal, but they worked it to where I have my lawyer. But same lawyer, and that's why I'll get to it. I could look at a deal today. And it is like, yo, she was, you know, Jamie Foxx's lawyer.
Starting point is 02:32:15 It was people, and I'll paint the picture for you again, too. In the mid-90s, and they said this in the Fat tuesday documentary they was handing out millions to they called them holding deals and this was the time of like upn the wb all and so every black comedian that you saw on def jam or at fat tuesday a white agent would come in and say half a million dollars and they would just pat so before i was 18 years old, I had met my first holding. Then what happened? Jamie Foxx had this festival called Laugh-A-Palooza that he did in Atlanta. And I was the youngest kid to ever rock that joint.
Starting point is 02:32:57 And the tape started going around. And Will Smith saw the tape. And he's like, I need to meet that kid. That's where the Joe Hay came in. Because that was the rumor that was going around about why Nick was so popping very early on. That's Will's man. Anything he say goes. I'm like, wait, huh?
Starting point is 02:33:11 Wait, why? Facts. And because he saw. So I remember I got a chance to see. Will had an office at where they shot the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air at NBC Universal. He had a whole wing wing a whole fucking building over there and I went in there
Starting point is 02:33:27 and I talked like I was talking to his development executive and he walked in the room and he was like yo I've been waiting to meet this kid he's like you remind me
Starting point is 02:33:36 so much of me the fact that you're funny that you can rhyme that people like you he's like you're going to go far in this business and he signed me to his record label
Starting point is 02:33:44 to his television production company and really just was on some big bro shit like the the whole time and i'm like yo just like all the important yeah like my first cassette i bought was he's the dj i'm the rapper like parents so as much as i you know my second cassette was life is too short though so like as much as i'm like i I gotta bow down I fuck with this dude Even like you know No corny hate Or none of that shit And he put me on
Starting point is 02:34:10 You know what I mean Like 17 years old I'm getting a check For $200,000 So And a six episode commitment For an idea that I just had
Starting point is 02:34:21 I came up with this idea I was like yo I'm gonna do My version of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. I'm going to call this shit Loose Cannon, and it's about me in a military school. And Will was like, done. Called Quincy Jones, called the head of WB.
Starting point is 02:34:34 They were all on the set of the pilot. We shot this shit. It was Loose Cannon. He had the Fresh Prince rap. I rapped the beginning of it. It was like Shy McBride played the My Uncle Phil. You know what I mean? It was fire.
Starting point is 02:34:49 You know what I mean? And from that, I thought I was on. Six episodes, they didn't pick the shit up. Nigga goes broke immediately. But I still got Will in my corner. So in that sense, we started working on the music. He put me on the road with Biz Markie. He put me on the road with Jazzy Jeff
Starting point is 02:35:05 RIP for life and then in that sense he he cultivated I was there during the whole what was it Big Willie style
Starting point is 02:35:15 millennium process where he was working with everybody from Jay to Trackmaster and I'm watching this and I'm
Starting point is 02:35:21 peeping how he's going diamond with these records he's winning Grammys I'm like alright I'm paying attentioneping how he's going diamond with these records. He's winning Grammys. I'm like, all right, I'm paying attention to how dude is moving. At this point, you're in a contract with Will or no? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:31 And it's still the 90s. You know what I mean? So then by the time I get my shot and when my show didn't get picked up from the WB, I was like, I don't always want to be in Will's shadow the whole time. I want to do some shit. He put me on, but I want to show that I'm worth something more. And then I just don't, I don't like to be
Starting point is 02:35:47 in niggas' entourages. I'm not that nigga. I don't want to be like, hey, we're all going to Miami. Let's get on the jet. Fuck all of that. If I'm not making my money, I want to be able to sit
Starting point is 02:35:56 at the guts table and gut too. You know what I mean? Like, at a young age, I thought that. So I went, I went,
Starting point is 02:36:03 Jay-Z and Will Smith both taught me how to play guts but uh all the private playing that's the stuff when I was 19 when they were playing guts I had to leave the office yo they niggas would be losing hundreds of thousands of dollars in a two-hand hey Joe the guts game about to start go ahead walk down the hallway you'll lose your life oh man anyway so long story short I was like I want to be able to do that myself so I went back Walk down the hallway. You'll lose your life. Man. Anyway, so long story short, I was like, I want to be able to do that myself.
Starting point is 02:36:33 So I went back to Nickelodeon where I had started and Will and them had found me and said, all right, well, you see Will is rocking with me. Let me do my own thing. And then that's when I wrote my, because I wrote the show with Will too. And I wrote my own show for Nickelodeon and did a deal over there And actually started Their record label Nick Records Slash Jive When I was 19 years old So that's how
Starting point is 02:36:49 All of that Then from there I could write my own check And be everywhere You're just stunting us Hey bro I ain't John Zell Ladies and gentlemen
Starting point is 02:36:57 This is Nick Cannon That's him No no no That's him That's just him We ain't got to say The name no more But that's why
Starting point is 02:37:04 When it was like That little part of hip-hop where like all of the haters like wanted to say only care of the cornball. Well, I mean,
Starting point is 02:37:15 we got to dissect that. That comes from We have to think. It's not just hate. That came from hip-hop's obsession with hyper-masculinity.
Starting point is 02:37:25 We have to dissect it. Because if that, the niggas on year nine of this, like, what are we calling corny here? All right. Oh, man. Wait, so now, nah, see, that's why I needed to talk to this guy.
Starting point is 02:37:39 That's a New York shit, though. A lot of that is New York based. What, the corny shit? I don't even care about that. Them niggas be stupid, man. That's where it comes from. That's where New York shit, though. A lot of that is New York based. What? The corny shit? I don't even care about that. Them niggas be stupid, man. That's where it comes from. That's where it comes from. Running a clinic and how to get things done on a level where you just can't.
Starting point is 02:37:53 Black business. Black excellence. Yeah, you just can't. Dude, he's hopping. But because I'm not out here preaching no negativity, no drugs, no street shit, you're corny. No matter what you do. And that's the way it's viewed. Bring me to the NBC, DaBone.
Starting point is 02:38:05 So, did you, did that, did you birth the, um, anytime, uh, something going on with a black person? Oh,
Starting point is 02:38:12 yo, he's trying to buy NBC. Like that came from you, right? Nah, I mean, not to put your name there, but I'm going to keep it at stack though.
Starting point is 02:38:22 And even with that whole thing, I mean, let's, let's keep it at stack. That's a publicly traded company. It's very difficult to buy them You can't buy them You can't buy them Those are rumors
Starting point is 02:38:30 But he was getting a whole lot of money And in that sense The NBC opportunity for me Was one of the A pivotal point in my career as well Because I didn't see it You know what I mean
Starting point is 02:38:42 I was too busy trying to be an executive And didn't want to host I actually don't really like hosting shit you know what I mean I was too busy trying to be an executive and didn't want to host I actually don't really like hosting shit you know what I mean I'm good at it you're over it yeah but it's like
Starting point is 02:38:51 to me I'd rather be an artist you know and so I've turned down every hosting opportunity but for this play it was like yo you can do your deal
Starting point is 02:39:00 at NBC at NBC and I was wanting to create a bunch of scripted stuff some variety stuff and I was like and they were like yo we'll do the deal we just need you to host America's Got Talent for us and I was like hi well I'll do that but make sure you green light this this this and this put this on and they were like you'll get that and more it's a big deal if you just do this I look up
Starting point is 02:39:20 and more it's a big deal if you just do this I look up seven eight seasons later and I'm making stupid money like
Starting point is 02:39:31 and that's the thing too like and I don't stunt but you've been stunning no I like this
Starting point is 02:39:36 I sit back and I look at these Forbes lists sometimes and I'm like stupid look at these brokies. That's cute. That's cute.
Starting point is 02:39:51 And we talking longevity. And we are. And you know, like people give. I don't know. I have no idea, bro. I'm with you, buddy. Come on.
Starting point is 02:39:59 Walk me through because I'm going to get there. No, I'm getting there one day. Longevity, you there? And I'm going to be worse than this. But let's talk. Real talk. No, I'm getting there one day. Jeff, are you there? And I'm going to be worse than this. But let's talk, real talk. People, look how much respect someone like Ryan Seacrest gets. Or even somebody like, and let's keep it a stat.
Starting point is 02:40:16 Ryan Seacrest, he produced the Kardashians, and I was there before he met the Kardashians. and I was there before he met the Kardashians. I'm just saying, like, in that sense where I've done
Starting point is 02:40:31 what he's done and more. He's saying what we talk about all the time here. He's saying what we speak about all the time here. And I'm not a nigga but look at what I made this year.
Starting point is 02:40:39 First of all, I don't want y'all to know what I made. Right, right, right. Like, but if he did that deal with one one show one let's count what he's done so y'all act like he's that guy yeah i'm quietly over in he's just but that's the thing nick yeah
Starting point is 02:41:02 cool from ryan secrets i just use him as an example I fucking love Ryan but I'm just saying he's that guy it's the example I use with Joe Rogan in podcasting all the time
Starting point is 02:41:12 exactly it's the same exact thing love to Ryan Seacrest but this guy has done it time and time and again comedian
Starting point is 02:41:21 acting writing exact from this network that network this team team, that team, that team. It's like me performing with a different coach for 30 years. Like, that should be applauded. And shit like that, for some strange reason, is not recognized. It's Elvis.
Starting point is 02:41:40 No, let me ask you a question. But I don't like that when it comes to Nick. Because, like, see, it's different with me, right? Like, with me right like with me and a few others they could use the term shock jock like we've spoken about here
Starting point is 02:41:48 with Kevin Hart they could say hey we didn't like that little joke that you went on and you can't do the Oscar like Nick they just be like
Starting point is 02:41:56 grabbing at straws to find shit to dead him about he's been clean fantasy nigga you have something to do with this fucking,
Starting point is 02:42:05 Fox. Now, let's get to Fox. I cannot believe that this guy has to deal with every network in the world. This nigga put a hat on some of y'all
Starting point is 02:42:14 and made y'all sing a song. And it's a smash. And it's replicated. Now they're going to come up with it 20 other times, yo. At some point, as a black creator, when you continue to do this
Starting point is 02:42:25 y'all gotta give it up they're giving it up no they're not no they're not they don't want I mean accolades no I'm just talking about them whoever that the field the masses I ain't talking about that I ain't talking about that because whatever he's paid he's not paid like he should be paid that's not true whatever he's paid I don't know his business and I don't want to know he ain't paid like the fuck he's supposed to be paid for all he's delivered he's not paid like he should be paid that's not true whatever he's paid i don't know his business and i don't want to know he ain't paid like the fuck he's supposed to be paid for all he's delivered to every network that all of you watch that's not true and niggas not speaking on the people that do this and that have done this for mad long like they supposed to we just gonna watch him at the little library show with niggas we're cookie controversial and we're gonna
Starting point is 02:43:00 take a little clip and we're gonna put it out But what he's doing and how he's dressed doing it, the clothes budget on that morning show. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We was going crazy. You're bugging out. That was all my own. I had to do it myself. You wore like lilac and green one day.
Starting point is 02:43:18 I was like, all right, somebody's style is going crazy up there. We had to. I came in here one day like, yo, I don't know who is dressed better. And listen, they kill me for how I dress, so I can't even speak on this. But between, and I'm an old nigga, Steve Harvey and you, and I know, I saw you on TV one day say, yo,
Starting point is 02:43:36 Steve is the OG. Yeah. So then I was like, alright, then I can stop talking about this. Yeah, I mean, I dress better than him now. I don't think you too far from. But I give, you gotta give him the props the Nigga was the first person To ever take me Suit shopping So I learned
Starting point is 02:43:48 Like even when it was The big suits and shit And like He really got it Yo I'm never This is another story Yo we need a stunt counter He's leaving in 10 minutes
Starting point is 02:43:56 We getting him out of here He's got a hard out He'll keep stunting On my little Nah we gotta have a stunt Every time he's stunt We just need the little Ding to go off
Starting point is 02:44:03 But that's why I don't Party with niggas like him. My man, my man. What's my man? My man, my guy, my guy, my guy. I don't even... All I do is like Terrence J. Picks now. Look where you came from.
Starting point is 02:44:14 All I do is like them. Y'all still support you and I love everything you're doing. But you're gonna piss me off. When you see a nigga casually... And that's just low-key. I'm not trying to put Terrence with Nick. But on that scale, when you see a nigga just, and that's just low scale. I'm not trying to put Terrence with Nick. But on that scale, you see a nigga just
Starting point is 02:44:27 with a casual 20, 30, just living, it's like, nah, hold up. Hold up a second. And what should be highlighted, you go bring it back. You bring it back. You talk.
Starting point is 02:44:41 You come talk to us. Come tell me. Hey, if you call and pick up the phone, you come give that advice. Like, that each one teach one type of thing. So look, stay here, right?
Starting point is 02:44:54 He said it's what's important to him. Let me ask you a question. Do you feel that because you don't necessarily have the street background or the street accolades that everybody else has? No. Known. had a street background or the street accolades that everybody else has no no no You got the Disney sound? Yeah. Do you believe that we don't necessarily support you in a manner that we should? Because in my opinion, I've watched you for years, your background, church, all of that.
Starting point is 02:45:35 Do you feel like because you don't rejoice in the struggle of drug dealing and I came from the bottom and I'm up now, I eat Jay. Jay is great. Right. Everybody here loves Jay. Yeah. But do you feel like you don't get, you're just due because of that?
Starting point is 02:45:51 Be honest. It's not looked at. Looked at in the light it's supposed to be. Yeah, let's bring it all the way home too because I know we wanted to get to the fact of
Starting point is 02:45:57 when the nigga did get canceled. Yeah. That was an eye opener for me. And that was, because I, I know I saw who was fucking with me, who was rocking with me from my side that was an eye-opener for me. They called your ass up. They lost you something. No, I saw who was fucking with me, who was rocking with me from my side,
Starting point is 02:46:09 and who wasn't. Who wanted to quickly say, who didn't even understand it, and was quickly to say, I was an Uncle Tom because I apologized, or I was pretending to be woke, or a ho-tep, or all of this type of stuff.
Starting point is 02:46:31 And I was like, that shit, like, it really confused me. Because not only did I always stick my neck out for the culture and even can downplay where I came from or what I did. I literally said, yo, I've done everything I could have ever wanted to do in my life, in my career. Now it's my time to create opportunities and give other people the game and teach other people. And in that process of trying to do that, niggas shitted on me. Where I'm like, this is the time I'm trying to help. I got money. I can go to an island and never talk to y'all niggas ever again. never talk to y'all niggas ever again.
Starting point is 02:47:05 Have my little old multi-village, my little cannon island with a bunch of kids that look like me and never talk to y'all again. But now I'm at this state where I'm like, I'm trying to put on for my people. That's what Wild N' Out is about. That's what my podcast was about. That's what all these other avenues
Starting point is 02:47:21 that I'm reaching now is like, I want to help the community because I feel like shit niggas can actually do this we're at a point where we can get knock on the doors and be like change this legislation do this let's talk to let's put up the bag let's build this let's start a lobby about this
Starting point is 02:47:36 for this and now niggas don't even want to support me when I'm really trying to help us that's where it got that's what was heartbreaking that's where depression sinks, that's what was heartbreaking. That's where depression sinks in. Let me ask you something. Did you say that's when depression sinks in? I can understand that being a dark time
Starting point is 02:47:52 in a dark place and you feeling alone in that. Like nobody's rocking with you. But in that, Yeah, guys. In that, do you go through a phase where you say,
Starting point is 02:48:02 oh, that's how y'all on it. I worry about me and the money then. That's sometimes how you get up out of that funk. That's all you can be like, yo, self-preservation. The world is against me. I got to say fuck y'all if you said fuck me. You know what I mean? That's the only way I can get out because otherwise all of
Starting point is 02:48:25 that low frequency is gonna drown me it's gonna kill me because y'all not even when i'm saying help me y'all saying fuck you so i'm all right well fuck it i know i'm a i know the cycle i could swim too yeah i know i'ma come back and now i see who was fucking with me and who wasn't i watch how each and every person moved throughout that from from my agents to to the people like i i learned so much from from the comments to the agents to the who really make my money count to have no effect on my money i saw how everybody shifted and it was a eye opener it was i always said it was it was a uh a character kaleidoscope I saw everybody's true colors form into that shit and it just that hurts though yeah 100% it's some of the closest to see
Starting point is 02:49:11 some of the people I'm like oh you was just in it for the money oh you don't think I'm as strong as I I actually am oh you actually believe what these people have been rocking with for a minute forever that gotta hurt and that's the thing where you gotta step back and you be like it's family members it's people in it and really what it takes is like everybody
Starting point is 02:49:30 cognitively are not at the same space to where it's like they just don't know how how to process what's going on they just hear they see a headline
Starting point is 02:49:41 they see Don Lemon talking shit about like you're supposed to be my motherfucking man but you don't know that somebody wrote that copy for him you don't know there's a producer that put that They just hear, they see a headline. They see Don Lemon talking shit about, like, you're supposed to be my motherfucking man. But you don't know that somebody wrote that copy for him. You don't know there's a producer that put that. So then when I sit down and say,
Starting point is 02:49:52 yo, you see I'm down, why are you kicking me? You know what I mean? Or whoever that person is. But you also see, you see people who stand firm and don't give a fuck about the system. This is why I act like this, though. That's my man. This, when Joe's talking my man. When Joe's talking for me... If they do it to him, yo,
Starting point is 02:50:07 I don't feel a way when they do it to me. They do it to niggas that they should not do it to. And it's the same... I'm shutting the fuck up because he talking that shit right now. But, man. Yo, let me... So, from what I heard, yeah, guys, I heard MTV during the debacle
Starting point is 02:50:24 offered your guys to take over Wild N Out. Was that true? Did you see that? And that's the thing. And I think Fly, and we talk about this all the time because we're on a tour right now. He's going crazy. And we even talked about it last night to where it's interesting how they play it. I forgot.
Starting point is 02:50:41 I don't know if he was on his podcast or where he put it. He said there was never a direct offer. They allow scenarios and media to say things like, hey, would you ever think about doing this? You float it. You know what I mean? And they test in the water to see. But I don't think there was ever a full conversation because at the end of the day, you got to remember, I'm an owner of this brand. So when all of that went down and it was a conversation where someone wanted to make an example of Nick Cannon, that's how it actually came back to me. And when that pissed me off and enraged me even more that someone felt that they had the ability, that's what we fighting against.
Starting point is 02:51:23 That's the exact shit we talking about. You have the power to make an example. We've let this go on too long. We're going to make an example out of him. And that's how it came back to me. So then, therefore, you ain't make an example of shit. Give me my shit back, and I'll show you what I'm going to do. So then it got a little okay the conversation is different
Starting point is 02:51:46 we thought we we owned him where now we gotta really make this work and we gotta come to he ain't recognize who the fuck he was y'all don't have the power
Starting point is 02:51:56 or ability to shut me up fuck is you talking about so in that sense we had a very we had truth and reconciliation yeah yeah hey Nick it very we had truth and reconciliation hey nick it was a misunderstanding
Starting point is 02:52:08 you know we love you guy yeah truth and reconciliation that's it's real stuff so then when that came to play all of those conversations of it wasn't even about who's gonna host this show anymore because wilding out is much bigger than the show nick cannon is more than it's not a show. Yeah, and it could have got to that level to where it wasn't even about entertainment anymore. And because, you know, cooler heads prevailed and we had that truth and reconciliation,
Starting point is 02:52:38 now there's things that are going on, you know, even amongst communities and things that where it's like, all right, well, let's get to the table and really, let's have those reparation conversations in a real way of how to get to. Let's talk about how to empower our community. Let's let's talk about how, oh, y'all got your own police force. Why we can't get our own police force. Teach us how y'all did that.
Starting point is 02:52:56 You know what I mean? So in those conversations, now we can have some real conversations because the truth is out there. We reconcile. We apologize. We're supposed to apologize. But now let's get to the root of what's really going on and that's where to me i'm the best utilized because now i can sit here and be a true conduit to say what do we need to do okay tissue paper fillings aside we all said all of that stuff now let's get to the root of this
Starting point is 02:53:21 of how we can actually empower each other right And that's, to me, entertainment is cool. I'm trying to really help my people and put my people on. Long term, too. Steve Harvey, I saw a clip, another one of my inspiration. He was talking about how he came to NBC with whatever the show idea was. He said, yeah, America's Got Talent first. America's Got Talent. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:43 And they told him to fuck off right came with america's got talent right right um with you and and to the point about putting your people on i don't think it can be understated that while mtv was trying to figure out a new direction for a new generation and not mtv but bicomp right was trying to figure out which is now paramount they getting rid of it in a switch to a little rebrand rebrand is no longer Viacom it's paramount trying to figure out their new direction for the new generation and how they would acclimate while and out was there to be consistent as a consistent driver of content engagement and all of these things.
Starting point is 02:54:28 Right? The beauty of it is he bought them the time and they figured it out. They said, all right, we're going to bring back all our old shows,
Starting point is 02:54:34 every one of them from Jersey Shore to Yom TV Raps to all of the things that worked, we're bringing them back. And this is years in the making over there.
Starting point is 02:54:41 And now the host of Yom TV Raps is Conceited. Conceited. It comes full circle. conceited who you gave the opportunity to uh smack as well of course yes but talk to me about what that signing did or what that acquisition did it seemed like it just brought a different type of style flavor and clearly someone else recognized that because he's where he should be 100 100 and that's my guy and battle rap culture is what inspired me to bring wild and out back i'm gonna be i'm sitting good i'm
Starting point is 02:55:19 married to mariah i'm at the crib and i'm'm literally on YouTube. I'm like, yo, this shit. What is this? We all went up there to fire at you about Mariah leaving. You didn't care. You didn't care. No, Mariah left. Nigga, shut up. Shut up.
Starting point is 02:55:36 And? Yeah. And I left. But we'll talk about that later. Hey! Hey! That's why I let the joke arrive. You read between the lines. You see how I have it. about that but no and all seriousness though the while and out ago going back to what we're saying while and out went away because I got married and I really
Starting point is 02:55:59 was like I don't really get one because we know what the environment is as I to keep my household the way I need to keep it. She ain't playing with you. I'm going to stop away from this. And I actually started focusing on the business of being married. And that is a business. What is that? What is the business of being married?
Starting point is 02:56:17 I've never been. It's a business of marriage. Especially when you're married to one of the biggest icons in music. There's things you must protect. There's privacy. Everything is an accusation. Everything is. You don't step.
Starting point is 02:56:32 Mariah don't step out the house. It costs her $150,000, $200,000 just to walk out the house. So you got to think about the levels. And that's everything from security, hair and makeup to jets. So every step you make. And we're building a partnership here. So I've never dealt with these level of numbers that now I'm 50-50 in. And I ain't no punk.
Starting point is 02:56:59 So my ego is even telling me I got to be a breadwinner too. I'm not a boy toy. I've been getting money. I was going to ask you. Did that? Because people didn't know that you was getting money like that. So they was looking at you like, yo, she took in this charity case. Yeah, they're like, why she married this little bum?
Starting point is 02:57:15 But it's like, we wasn't far off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I would say, and you know, without going to my ego, I'd get crazy. When I started she definitely had more money than me you know what I mean
Starting point is 02:57:28 it's very apparent by the time we got there we was sharing into all of the bills you know I just say that that I make
Starting point is 02:57:37 she makes some other kind of jet bills and stuff like that I take a jet once a month she on it every week it's different.
Starting point is 02:57:45 But in that sense, I'm like, I've never dealt with these level of numbers. So I got to step back and really figure out. I'm talking to financial advisors and board members. I wasn't on. I was getting checks, but I wasn't at that level. You weren't at that level, though. You know what I mean? And international meetings about what we're
Starting point is 02:58:05 gonna like it was it was different the access of the type of business that i had so from there i stepped away from entertainment for a minute because i was like yo i can really go get education yeah i can get to these back and then i reeled it back in when i was like okay well the root of it is the entertainment so you never want to leave that alone. So that's where I still kept all my deals. And that's why I've been saying, like, with NBC, I didn't go in there to host America's Got Talent. I went there to do a business deal. So, like, we were setting up animated deals for our family.
Starting point is 02:58:38 We were setting up, you know what I mean? It was stuff like that to where we were just trying to produce content. And so that business made me step away from being the fun loving hip-hop guy on MTV and once I figured out what what happened I was watching the battles and all of that and at the time my shots out to my dude Chris McCarthy who's who now out to Chris McCarthy who runs it all and he's that dude well deserved well deserved he definitely deserves everything that he that he has right now but at the time he was just working at mtv2 and it was like they wasn't even giving him the respect and i still owned wild and out mtv2 he had no money so he and i had to literally go out and try to convince advertisers to buy Wild N' Out.
Starting point is 02:59:25 It was like, yeah, we did this show a couple years ago and we went to Airbody, Pepsi, Mountain Dew. I had relationships at all of these places and we got money to make the show because we didn't have the money. So even then, in my deal, I still had ownership even when we brought it back. So then I was able to put on cats
Starting point is 02:59:43 that nobody had ever heard of, like the Con like like the DC Young Flys like the Hitman Hollas and Charlie clips and I was such a fan of battle rap that was like yo I'm a bring cuz I feel like we used to do rap battles on Wild N Out in the early 2000s in that somewhat inspired what the battle rap stuff i mean all along with eight mile and all of that stuff but we took this fun stuff and they turned it into a sport and then so i was like i want to go back what they did and bring it back to television so that's why i just dove in and handed the baton to to cats like conceited and hitman holler and want them to become the biggest stars they can possibly become because not only of their gifts and their skill level but the fact that
Starting point is 03:00:32 to show that there's different ways to get to this hip-hop bag and that's where we landed and on top of that you're able to right like i'm listening to you and your story's incredible yo like if you really understand some of the stuff your story's incredible but and Chris is amazing so credit to him but in what you're saying I've had fights a million of them that say
Starting point is 03:00:58 hey why y'all don't just bring me to the advertising if it's my show and I came up with it and y'all can't sell it. Right. Wouldn't it make sense for us to collaborate and go in together? There's a whole bunch of people in between that would lose their job. That's the thing.
Starting point is 03:01:16 It's job security. It's people who have those, those relationships are their job. And that's why they don't like when we go direct to them. They don't like for us to have those relationships. You lose your leverage, too. Yeah. But listen, but he was in alignment with some good people.
Starting point is 03:01:29 So it allowed him the space to now just look at some talent to bring in and help this. Hey, we got the back end right. We're doing ads right. We got these relationships right. We're going to run here. I own this. Who can make this? Seated.
Starting point is 03:01:43 Hit man. Make it hot. Authent it hot the beautiful woman clip just whoever it is like just the the your business acumen oh man i can't say enough about it i appreciate um to the audience to the audience that thinks that like we do salacious shit i'm not asking him about his kids or his kids moms because not only do I not care about that stuff, it's none of my business. But what I will say is when the topic comes up, I don't get into it.
Starting point is 03:02:15 Everybody's shit's personal. But back to sniper list. For a man to be able to have this open discourse to land in this with this result yeah of harmonious interaction between multiple women right i don't have to know the women i don't have to know the kids i don't have to know the story that takes a fucking sniper to do. Because there's always peace. I say it all the time with y'all. There's peace. Nobody talks about this person.
Starting point is 03:02:50 Nobody talks about that person. It's off blogs. It's private. Who the fuck knows how it's being done? But only a sniper can pull that off. Because we see other people
Starting point is 03:03:01 do the shit and it don't go that way. Yeah. Yeah. We see it. It'll play out on all your little blog sites every five minutes.
Starting point is 03:03:09 We see it. So, I mean, every time a topic come up, I was one of the ones I said I looked at it as a little, I said it could have been selfish. I'm definitely selfish.
Starting point is 03:03:20 I'm definitely selfish. No, no, I'm not. I'm definitely selfish. But, again, we don't know the inner workings and, hey, look, that shit's working for you. I'm definitely self, but, um, again, you know, we don't know the inner workings and Hey, look, that shit's working for you. I think again,
Starting point is 03:03:29 it goes out and I, and I've watched Joe speak a lot about this when his own life, when, when you go within and you start to understand and you embrace your flaws, if you know, you're a selfish individual, if you know, you have problems with ego,
Starting point is 03:03:41 if you know that, and you doing the work, then anyone that steps into your world and steps into your life, they know what they're stepping into. And I don't approach any of this from a place of malice. I don't approach any of this from a place of, there once was a time in my life where I was like, I want to be that nigga. I want to be, you know, I'm out here star fucking. I'm out here trying to get all the best. Like that was part of becoming the young sniper. But once you get to a point where you're like, ooh, this is toxic. This is a space where what am I really trying to accomplish out of life?
Starting point is 03:04:14 If I am trying to be the best father in a very unorthodox scenario, I got to step back and acknowledge my flaws. My kids are going to have questions. My kids are going to try to figure this out. They already are going to get the energy of people bringing low frequency, flaws my kids are gonna have questions my kids are gonna try to figure this out there they already are gonna get the energy of people bringing low frequency saying oh your dad is this and your dad is that so I can't be nothing but transparent I can't be nothing but vulnerable so in that scenario every woman that's involved with me knows that this is definitely a partnership and this is going
Starting point is 03:04:41 like there's healing that still has to occur here but if we could do it together and i can provide you a lifestyle that is going to be even amidst of what the outside says that you are going to be not only comfortable but you're going to be content and you're going to get to a space where you can also do this for yourself and for our kids even if i wasn't in the scenario why wouldn't one choose that? That's what I said. That was his point. That's what I said. We discussed it a few times on the show
Starting point is 03:05:08 and that was my stance. Ladies and gentlemen, his name is Nick Cannon. It's him. He don't have time. No, his name is him. He don't have time to sit here with us.
Starting point is 03:05:20 What the fuck is wrong with y'all? Stop talking to him. What y'all got to start counting? Just download the mixtape. Ladies and gentlemen, round of applause. Download the mixtape. Get the project when it comes out. Listen, you still claim Gigolo?
Starting point is 03:05:36 I got to. I'm still claiming up in the club. Yeah, I mean, we can have that conversation another time. I'm blaming myself That's it The man still is A musical genius He wrote it for me
Starting point is 03:05:50 I ain't do nothing wrong Yeah Exactly Ladies and gentlemen Nick Open invitation Anytime you want to come sit here We thank you
Starting point is 03:05:59 Man We appreciate you You know how I feel about you This has been lovely Refreshing I love you Ladies and gentlemen All day Sniper of snipers You know how I feel about you. This has been lovely. Refreshing. I love you. Ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 03:06:08 Sniper of snipers. Hey, if I thought I was close to the list before he came. No, you're not. You're not. You're not. Hey, how far are y'all from the list? What list? Don't tell me about I'm not. What list?
Starting point is 03:06:18 Y'all far, right? Way off. No, you got something to say? Yeah, word. Don't say what it is. Why would I do that? How far you think? I gave him props.
Starting point is 03:06:27 About 400 spots, right? What? How many spots you think you offered? How far? How far? How many spots? Yeah. It's not.
Starting point is 03:06:32 A couple thousand spots? It's apples and oranges. Nah, I like that. There we at it. Hey, yo, if you would've gave me 20 years in the business. Yeah. Nigga, you would've gave me 20 years in the business. I never want to talk to Nick Hennigan.
Starting point is 03:06:45 I do. I never felt like such a again. You know, I'm cool. I do. I never felt like such a peon. You shitting me. I'm rich and I feel like nothing. No, I'm cool. I'm depressed. That nigga was amazing.
Starting point is 03:06:54 That shit was amazing. Amazing, amazing. I'd walk in the crib and just start kicking shit over. Nah, and again, we just talked about the service shit. That nigga be getting deep. Yeah. Pause. We would add another 30, 40 minutes to an hour with him.
Starting point is 03:07:07 He would have turned up. No, that would have been revolutionary. No, seriously. See how much shit he hit in a matter of an hour with a hard out. He had to go. He would have loved it if he got some shit off. Yeah. And he did.
Starting point is 03:07:20 He did. He did. He said a lot. Shout out to Nick, man. He said a lot. That's amazing, man. Congratulations on everything everything What a guy What a guy
Starting point is 03:07:30 Yeah He was talking Yeah He was talking We need to celebrate The Knicks Yeah we do Nah
Starting point is 03:07:38 We really As a Just in the culture period Yeah He's top He doesn't get his He's top five He doesn't get his just due
Starting point is 03:07:43 It's the same thing I just said earlier About Kevin Lowndes talking. And the people that need to be talking. That's true. I agree with that. We need to hear Nick talk. Yeah. Like, to people.
Starting point is 03:07:54 Just like, not today in New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To just people. No, to us. No, but what I'm saying is, like, not us here, but I'm just saying, the hip-hop culture in general, you need to respect him more so that when he talks, you listen. You listen. You can't respect him because they don't even know his plight
Starting point is 03:08:09 most people want to get to the salacious shit it's not just that people don't know like even I just told Ish outside when this episode goes out tomorrow there's going to be a lot that he touched on that he didn't really touch on but he did that people just don't know the brevity of it.
Starting point is 03:08:25 Am I using that right? Yeah. He said a lot of shit that spanned for over 20 years just about business acumen, business savvy, fucking relationships, networking, friend group. He dropped so much game in an hour that if you're not paying attention, you'll miss it. And that's why I get mad as I'm sitting there with my mom watching daytime talk show TV.
Starting point is 03:08:52 And they bring these great minds out to talk about hot topics. And I sit and I look at my mom. I'm like, yo, what are you doing? But I understand the demo that you're targeting. But we need something different from this. Yo, my mom, it's almost time for her to go
Starting point is 03:09:07 and I'm getting sad. I'll be honest, I'm getting sad. Is she going to move out soon? I mean, let Corey and Ish tell it. Let Corey and Ish tell it, her career is done.
Starting point is 03:09:15 She just, but, that, the conversations you have with your parents while you're an adult. I wish I could live with my parents.
Starting point is 03:09:24 While you are an adult. Man, yo. I think about that a lot, too. Amazing. Like my grandparents, rest in peace. You know what I mean? It's like, damn, I wish I could talk to them now. You feel me?
Starting point is 03:09:34 It's different. It's different. I get so much game. My grandfather, he turns 81 next week. And me and him just sitting kicking. And he, it's like, even though the world is different, the game he give you still applies. That's general knowledge.
Starting point is 03:09:51 That's general knowledge, yeah. And like, I take anything, I go to him. Yeah, my grandparents passed when I was a teenager, so I never really got to experience their knowledge as an adult. Sure. But y'all not living together shouldn't stop you. No, I'm talking about my grandparents. their knowledge as an adult. Sure. But you should, y'all not living together shouldn't stop you No, I'm talking about
Starting point is 03:10:07 my grandparents. By my parents. That's still, when I go see them, and when I talk, we talk all the time on the phone and text and all that.
Starting point is 03:10:13 So I still get that, but I missed that with my grandparents, which I think is like a different level. You know what I mean? Like World War II depression shit.
Starting point is 03:10:21 You know what I mean? Like they went through some shit. The fun I have with my mom on these topics, you're absolutely right. If my grandparents were alive while I was 40 years old, it would get real, real. Man, man. They saw a whole different world, my nigga. What?
Starting point is 03:10:38 So to hear them, nigga, it's amazing. I remember when my grandfather passed and we were going through his house, he had boxes with shit that would be labeled and shit. It would be string too short to use. But they grew up in the Depression. They would save everything just in case. And then they went through World War II, which was we're saving all this rubber bands and all types of shit for the war effort.
Starting point is 03:11:00 And to have these conversations now would be priceless fun. It's fun. It is fun. I go to my mom's fun it is fun yeah i go to my mom's room the other morning i go to turn the news on well and in my room i turn the news on we both watch the news in the morning i watch the news i turn it on in my room it's five in the morning six in the morning they bleeding me to death with the london ceremony for the jubilee i don't want to mispronounce it for the for the borya family over there they they do something
Starting point is 03:11:24 every year i'm ignorant so i don't know what it is and i it for the royal family over there. They do something every year. I'm ignorant, so I don't know what it is. And I immediately turn. I'm like, yo, dog, why you not showing me the murders in the Bronx? Why you giving me
Starting point is 03:11:31 what's going on over there? Cool. I go see this in my mom's room. She's got the news on. Same shit. And she's like, oh, the queen. The royal family.
Starting point is 03:11:40 Oh, this is so beautiful. And I say, why you care about this? And she said, oh, it's the royal family. Oh, this is so beautiful. You know what I'm saying? Why do you care about this? And she said, oh, it's the royal family. And I said, yeah, they're a generation, yo. But,
Starting point is 03:11:52 and so then Trey's generation. No way, let's not, let's rag on them some more. Yo, y'all believed anything, yo. Anything, bro. Anything they put on the TV. The news. Hey, why you love them?
Starting point is 03:12:04 Because. All right, why that, though? We in the generation of questioners. Then why that? Let's get it. Let's get into it. We don't have to have a shit in the baby boomers generation conversation. All their information came from the news.
Starting point is 03:12:16 And they swear by the news. Nigga, if the news said it, it was the facts. I said, Ma, how'd you have Kate die? She said, they killed him. I said, who's they? She said, someone. I said, yo, I'm done. All right. She said, they killed him. I said, who's they? She said, someone. I said,
Starting point is 03:12:27 yo, I'm done. All right. They was doing shit right in front of y'all. Right before your eyes. Y'all was nothing to wise. And then Trey and them
Starting point is 03:12:34 not going to believe a fucking thing. Yeah. So we like, iffy, iffy, iffy. The older I get,
Starting point is 03:12:40 the more of this shit. That don't sound right, fam. Trey and them going to be like, nope. I just had this conversation last night
Starting point is 03:12:45 I was talking to someone and I said yo subject of the Bible came up and I just said yo is it me or is it the older I get
Starting point is 03:12:55 the more this shit look like some bullshit like like yo dog is it me chill out dog nigga M. Night Shaloham wrote the Bible come on let's just talk Like Like Yo dawg Is it me? Chill out dawg Nigga M. Night Shaloham
Starting point is 03:13:06 Wrote the Bible Come on Let's just talk Talk about what it is I believe in a higher power And a greater being I'm talking about that book But the
Starting point is 03:13:15 Yeah alright We ain't never gonna have money Alright Alright I don't want it Y'all want it I don't want it I'm cool
Starting point is 03:13:24 Come on. The fucking Bible. Another book I never read. No, you got to read that. That's some of the best shit in the world. No, I don't. No, no, just read it one time. Read what Steven Spielberg and them niggas wrote.
Starting point is 03:13:37 You start really looking like... Did you get mad? Like, y'all believe this? Like, this worked? I could write one of these. That shit is successful like this worked I could write one of these that shit is successful as hell I could get one of these off if this worked I could get one of these off
Starting point is 03:13:50 by far I might need to start me some shit and this is why thousands of years of popularity but this is why I be wanting to cut my brain off
Starting point is 03:13:57 I'm watching the final that shit bigger than Thriller the guitarist nigga go out there and he absolutely absolutely smokes the Star Spangled Banner. That dude, yo,
Starting point is 03:14:08 I know some people thought he went a little too crazy, but as a guitar lover, that wasn't Jimi Hendrix. Jimi Hendrix, I missed the first part. Game one. Game one. The finals. The finals. Oh, then y'all missed the top of it, but they
Starting point is 03:14:24 brought a guitarist out. They don't remember his name, but he smoked that shit, right? And for some reason, that put me back in the auditorium of school doing like Neil Sean. From Journey. Duh. He ain't going to Don't Stop Believin' after that? Because I don't be knowing the Journey dudes by face they like football players
Starting point is 03:14:47 if you would've been throwing Don't Stop Believin' during the Star Singles that shit would've been epic but it worked but it worked but when he was smoking that shit
Starting point is 03:14:55 as an instrumentalist I was doing like the words of the song I was like yo I went to that I went to I pledge allegiance to the, I pledged allegiance to the flag. I think it's like the second or third verse.
Starting point is 03:15:10 They took the verse. They took them out. Yeah, like those don't happen no more. No, they took the verse out. Wait, we was children, yo. I was into the Republic. For which it stands. For which it stands.
Starting point is 03:15:22 We couldn't go outside without memorizing, pledging to something. Who the fuck are y'all niggas that I'll pledge to? I'll pledge to none of this. You have to stand and hold your hand up. Put your hand on your heart. Yeah, nigga. Yeah. The whole class.
Starting point is 03:15:39 Well, the black people's version of that was, what's the other song? Lift Every Voice. Lift Every Voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, we know our shit. We know our shit. We know our shit. We know the other song Lift Every Voice Lift Every Voice yeah yeah yeah you know we gonna we know our shit we know our shit Lift Every Voice and in our shit
Starting point is 03:15:50 we not forcing you to pledge to something like Churchill Church like Hillsong Church hell niggas always want us to don't trigger ish man word
Starting point is 03:15:58 yo chill out cause he half white he always want us to I'm half white yo you gotta stop they believe that they think I'm mixed Look at your eyes
Starting point is 03:16:06 Are you? No I ain't mixed nigga Look at your natural eyes Wow I learned something today Wow I gotta start learning more About my friends
Starting point is 03:16:13 I ain't even know He had them eyes When Nick Cannon was sitting here That nigga Little eyes was humble Am I me too? Hey I'm with you
Starting point is 03:16:23 Hey we them niggas But these Like That's different Yo Yeah I mean I regret asking him I'm with you Hey we them niggas But these Like That's different Yo bro Yeah I mean I regret asking him About the sniper list
Starting point is 03:16:30 Yeah Not me I would have preferred To just keep him With the Drake's Nah he made sense He was so humble in it
Starting point is 03:16:37 I mean everyone Mentions Drake But But Those guys That's pretty cute But for me Those guys
Starting point is 03:16:44 You really can't be called a sniper because they fuck the ugliest that's what he said nobody nobody that's not what he said yo compare my bitches
Starting point is 03:16:52 to theirs I would never and I wouldn't touch their bitches that's what he said yo alright forget it yo I gotta sleeper
Starting point is 03:17:00 nobody knows the snipers were there you just dead that's what he said basically them niggas ain't snipers. They just. They just running in. They regular shooters.
Starting point is 03:17:09 Hey, podcast audience. All I have is a song to offer you that you may have never heard. I don't know. You don't want to give any finals? The finals. The finals. I went to sleep in quarter number three. I'm saying.
Starting point is 03:17:22 I thought it was over. I thought it was over. You did yourself a disservice. I woke up and said, huh? Shout out to Boston, man. You did yourself a disservice. Shout out to Boston. Why? Because they did what they did. I don't feel like doing this with you.
Starting point is 03:17:35 So why would you not give Boston their props? No, I will give this variation of the Celtics their props. Shout out, Boston. What do you mean, this variation? Joe's just leaning on his New York, Boston hate. Never shout out, Boston.
Starting point is 03:17:51 Oh, got you. Okay. I'm not. Y'all can't. Yo, I don't lose in this. Let me speak my piece in 40 seconds, and y'all can give y'all a brief synopsis on this, because we out of here. I don't lose in this. I want Tatum to get a ring. I want the Warriors to get out of here I don't lose in this
Starting point is 03:18:05 I want Tatum to get a ring I want the Warriors to get a ring as a Knicks fan how? because you came if Golden State wins you're going to come in here
Starting point is 03:18:14 all day I told you to I called two sports I don't care about that no you care you do care I would like to do it but is that important
Starting point is 03:18:22 in the grand scheme for me no in the grand scheme is I say it all the time I like to see greatness so I'm rooting to do it, but is that important in the grand scheme? For me, no. In the grand scheme is, I say it all the time here, I like to see greatness. So I'm rooting to see a dynasty, one. And two, fucking for the Warriors, like as a Knick fan, because my perspective is different from yours.
Starting point is 03:18:41 I think Ish has like sports elitism complex. He's a Laker fan and a Cowboy fan. I can't speak for Ice shit, but as a Knicks fan... Steelers fan and Sixers fan. I was with my girl earlier. She was like... Not from Pennsylvania. From Boston. Weird. And she's like, yo, did the Celtics win that game last night? Because she heard me.
Starting point is 03:19:00 I was like, fuck them niggas. And I was like, well, yeah. They won. Ish grew up in New Jersey and went to PA for all his sports did he yeah he's a Sixers fan
Starting point is 03:19:12 and a Steelers fan not Ish Ice Ice so oh yeah well he tried to live out there with a woman
Starting point is 03:19:17 he came back started fucking New York Dallas fucking matters so what better than Lancaster but listen ain't no sports out there
Starting point is 03:19:24 well the Barnstormers so Shorty was like sports out there. Well, the Barnstormers. So Shorty was like, yo, when's the last time it's out? The Barnstormers? That's the softball, minor league baseball team. Excuse me. Absolutely. 100%. Free tickets.
Starting point is 03:19:36 Yes. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be trying to get us somewhere. And then y'all will come in and talk about the little league team. So y'all go ahead. I don't know about the pencil slingers. Who are y'all talking about right now?
Starting point is 03:19:49 It's the Barnstormers. I was at the games. Anyway, I think Ish has sports fan elitism. He does. But as a Knick fan, I like being an undercover Warriors fan. Not just because their players are great. I think the organization has ran well
Starting point is 03:20:04 and that feels good as a sports fan. I ain't going to hold you. It does. So if they players are great. I think the organization has ran well, and that feels good as a sports fan. I ain't going to hold you. It does. So if they win, great. But if Tatum wins, I'm going to throw a party. If Marcus Smart gets a ring, I'm throwing a party. If the black coach gets a ring, year one, I'm throwing a party. I do not think that will happen.
Starting point is 03:20:20 I do not think that will happen. You think Boston will win, Corey? I know you don't got a money. All right. I don't have the Celtics winning. But if they do, I ain't coming in here mad that a black Celtics team won. Adult me like Duke. I like the Celtics.
Starting point is 03:20:38 The Jazz a little bit. All the teams that was like, it's not supposed to be. Nah, come on, yo. Come on, yo. Once De'Ron Williams got Jerry Sloan out of there, had to get some black players. Like, all right. all the teams that was like he's not supposed to nah come on yo come on yo once Derron Williams got Jerry Sloan out of there had to get some black players like alright
Starting point is 03:20:49 I can fuck with y'all a little bit so that's me listen I went to bed in quarter three the Celtics went crazy in the fourth quarter I do think that if the Celtics win
Starting point is 03:21:00 that is an indictment on Wardell's resume that he did not close you do not start out. I thought he would close that game with 23s. No, you know what happened? He had to play D. And he got three fouls. Coaching. Coaching.
Starting point is 03:21:13 He got three fouls. Coaching. I was cursing Keeb out. Keeb said he wouldn't be shocked if the Celtics swept the Warriors. And I cursed him out, right? Listen. You can say what you want. Yo, I'm not going to hold you you i saw a lot of talk niggas was talking like the warriors is chump in this series i saw a lot of time i mean listen derrick white can ball out like that consistently it's gonna be very they were saying boston's
Starting point is 03:21:37 defense is gonna fuck them up they don't people i've seen talk like they don't stand a chance and i'm like are we talking about the same Warriors? Tell people to shut up. When I fell asleep, I thought that the Warriors would win. But I did say to myself, Tatum ain't went off yet. And that's a little scary. That's a little scary. He played terrible. He just didn't score. But he facilitated the offense.
Starting point is 03:21:58 How many assists he had? I think he had double-digit assists. Yo, before I give the ending of my analysis and toss it to you guys can I bring it back to the sniper list really quickly sure
Starting point is 03:22:08 cause I like to just highlight undercover snipers I don't care if they're married with kids just niggas you would have
Starting point is 03:22:16 to deal with in sniper land and Al Horford is one of them for me hey boy really 1000% Al Horford speaks one of them for me. Hey, boy. Really? 1,000%.
Starting point is 03:22:26 Al Horford speaks seven languages. He's Dominican. He's 6'10". He's beautiful. He plays well. He's got all the money because he's been there forever. If you were in the club and y'all were at it at the same time, he's married, so he shouldn't be in this,
Starting point is 03:22:41 but if y'all were at it at the same time, guess what, buddy? You have to deal with Al Horford now, and that's the name that just you wouldn't think you have i like to go to those names because you just bump into these niggas sometimes al horford for his fucking birthday went off again and i agree with draymond yo they asked him what happened in the post game. He said, White, Hofford, and dude went 15 of 21. Smart went 15 of 21 from three. That's it.
Starting point is 03:23:14 Don't talk to me no more. Now, I'm done. I still have Warriors in six, not seven. The floor is yours. I can see it going to seven. I can see it going to seven. Me too. Me too. I still got the Warriors coming out of this.
Starting point is 03:23:26 And wait, all of y'all were right that I spoke to. Once they started, once the refs started letting them play, it was bad. Benefits of all stuff. It was bad. It ain't that bad. Go ahead. The floor is yours. They can't stop Steph.
Starting point is 03:23:38 They can't stop him. Steph was just getting shots. Everybody else got to show up. Lights was bright for Jordan Poole. I ain't going to lie to you. Lights was bright for Jordan Poole. I ain't going to lie to you. Lights was bright for Jordan Poole. It's bright lights. Bright lights.
Starting point is 03:23:49 Nah, Steph. I don't care if they hunt him if the rest of them niggas show up. Right. Yeah. Hey, I gave you 30 points, scored a one. Y'all win it now. I'm done. Steph, the problem with this is Steph can't hide on defense.
Starting point is 03:24:01 He can't hide because, honestly, they was getting the motherfucking pick and roll with him and Jason Tatum and Tatum just was missing They was Jason but that don't matter because everybody else that don't make it at that clip regularly did I know and if I'm Golden State I'm cool with bedding that Marcus smart is not gonna go White white made mad big no, but white has always made those shots. Marcus Smart making some of them. It was fadeaway baseline threes, some of them, for Marcus Smart. I was like, oh, shit. All right. They wilding out.
Starting point is 03:24:30 Huh? Nah. Boston is. I watched the whole game. I watched the whole game, dog. Well, about halfway through, Al Holford kicked in. Nah. JB kicked in, yo.
Starting point is 03:24:41 JB started bringing them back, and when he started doing that, everybody else got ignited. Boston was rushing a bunch of shots early. And when they calmed down, yo, and JB started penetrating and kicking in the early fourth quarter, it was over. Part of the reason why I give Golden State this dub and then we'll get to sleepers is coaching. I told Keeb that coaching should play a part in game one, which is why I had Golden State winning game one. But I had it reversed. Golden State does try to get cute. And if they're going to
Starting point is 03:25:12 try to get cute and sleep on you a little bit, it might be game one. I think game two will see the coaching. The lock-in? The coaching. I'm only talking about Steve Kerr now. No, I'm saying. We will see great coaching changes from Steve Kerr and. No, I'm not. I'm saying. We will see great coaching changes from Steve Kerr, and they will win game two.
Starting point is 03:25:27 What adjustments can he make? Al Horford won't do that again. It's like that. Not wide open. You'll have to be contested. Can't. He was hanging out in the post while he was out there banging them threes on him.
Starting point is 03:25:37 You can contest Al Horford's three. Yeah, you can. You don't have to just. Four of them was wide open. Four of them, Draymond was dropping back instead of pushing forward on the pick and roll that don't have to be the case
Starting point is 03:25:49 it does hey we'll take it don't we'll take a loss but you have to make it with a hand on your face stop it nigga you just turned 49
Starting point is 03:25:55 that's wrong do it do it six more games do it six more games it was your birthday your kid is here your first finals game you did it
Starting point is 03:26:02 you did it you did it alright do it three more games. That's cool. And if they win, I'm going to come in here and big up every black player in the Celtics and the coach and the along. Yeah, as you should. Yeah, I ain't.
Starting point is 03:26:15 They already get accolades from being that far. At the midway point, them niggas was in the negative. They had a losing record. I'm going to salute Bron. Yeah, we got you. Yeah, salute Bron. Bron is a billionaire. Round of applause.
Starting point is 03:26:30 Who didn't know that? Oh, shit. Officially listed. Somehow, with the click of a button, I moved the applause to the fairy sound and vice versa. We'll fix that. Oops-a-daisy. Yeah, shout out to LeBron he's a billionaire without any of it coming from
Starting point is 03:26:51 A&R and you weak niggas albums so that should be applauded and I don't think he ain't finished neither finished niggas 10 years old he ain't getting started yeah
Starting point is 03:27:07 yeah no he didn't got a house party coming I'm gonna play a record right now from Aaron Ray's yes I saw the fight well no I didn't see the fight no I'm watching that fucking fight
Starting point is 03:27:20 no I was on vacation so that's why I didn't see it but I saw all the clips I saw the 6th round But I saw all the clips. I saw the sixth round and the end of the fifth round. This is all I have to say, and I'll toss to y'all. I laughed for 45 minutes because I saw somebody say that the knockout picture, a dude that got knocked between the ropes,
Starting point is 03:27:39 looked like you trying to plug your charger in behind the headboard. That's a fact. That was the one. I was dying. I was dying. Yo, I have outlets behind the headboard. That's a fact. That was the one. I was dying. I was dying. Yo, I have outlets behind the headboard. Yeah, me too. Yo, dog.
Starting point is 03:27:51 It's death. I just moved the whole bed now. You got to. Yeah, no, it's bad. So that was it for me, and I didn't need to hear nothing else. Yeah. On to y'all.
Starting point is 03:28:00 This shit was great. I ain't watch it. I watched this shit. No, it's funny because he talks so much shit. That's what made it funny shit That's what made it funny That's what made it funny Roley talk so much shit My nigga that
Starting point is 03:28:09 You got your chin check And it was over No no no Not just that They ushered him The fuck out of there No they didn't He didn't wanna
Starting point is 03:28:17 He didn't wanna talk to nobody I'm When he got up Yo let's go We out And He got out the ring I don't care about him.
Starting point is 03:28:25 That fucked me up. I don't even care about him, what he has to say, or what he did. Oh, wait. No, no. I watched that clip a million times to see if I could even spot the punch. The Gervonta punch. Like, it's cool dude was throwing that wild little haymaker. But dude to throw that counter that fast
Starting point is 03:28:45 and move out the way he did that shit in a split second yo you going down it was ready to hit him again fam I'm out he's like oh are you down
Starting point is 03:28:54 let me back up you got it nigga I'm climbing the ropes now you're going to bed I would have learned how to do a backflip semi off the ropes just for this fight
Starting point is 03:29:02 if I'm him if somebody hit me like that in a real fight, I might never fight again. I might have PTSD. Did you hear what he said after the fight? Yeah, he said run it back.
Starting point is 03:29:11 I won every round. Run it back. I heard him. Fuck is you talking about? That's why I got sleepers right now. That's exactly why I got you a sleeper. He there too. And you a sleeper, nigga.
Starting point is 03:29:20 Nigga, we saw this. We watched this. Yeah, man. Sleepers, man. Come come on aaron ray brand new project in your phone right now shout out to my wamp hive empire shut the door to the spaceship i don't think she'll get back to the basics god damn she don't know what she means to me She don't know what it seems to be This thing got a little crazy
Starting point is 03:29:49 Life been looking like a classic Issa Rae scene Goddamn, I don't know what this means for me But I can say what it seems to be Has it been turned in? Blast my mind, my fire Let's enjoy ourselves, yeah We are alive Give me something I have to wear Gotta save that, save that gold
Starting point is 03:30:24 Gotta save that, save that gold Don't, don't, don't, don't Gotta save that, save that gold Don't, don't, don't, don't Gotta save that, save that gold Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, Where my grill should be You shine more than a diamond does And I'm cherished looking right as fuck Girl, you know you got it That's a queen to me Put a crown right there for the world to see Has it returned and lost my light, my fire?
Starting point is 03:31:21 Let's enjoy ourselves, yeah Fire, give me something I have to love Got to save that, save that, oh Brand new music from one of my favorite R&B niggas That's Aaron Ray, that one is called Gold Off his brand new project On DSPs and your phone right this second Check it out Go save that, save that gold
Starting point is 03:32:03 Let's go then Go save that, save that, save that No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no brother artists called turkey bags I was hoping that cord went up godfather court you be safe hey this is brave. Yo, you was in the video. Listen. Huh? We don't really talk up on the phone or use that bed with. For real? Spirit see a nigga's making statements. Got my man's step. Call a pill to swallow when you realize that your man's next.
Starting point is 03:32:51 Yo, turn this off, yo. Hey, you got to turn this off, yo. What? What happened? What's up? This comes full circle, yo. I'm bombing steak in the strip club video. I didn't even know niggas was shooting the video.
Starting point is 03:33:02 Me neither. I'm in the video. I thought that was a real nigga. I'm just my first time seeing this shit. I'm like, what the hell? No, I saw you that night. All right, I'mas were shooting video. Me neither. I'm in the video. I thought that was a real nigga. I'm just my first time seeing this shit. I'm like, man, what the hell? No, I saw you that night. All right, I'm going to press play. Go ahead.
Starting point is 03:33:10 I ain't going to talk about it. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 03:33:11 Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 03:33:11 Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 03:33:12 Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 03:33:12 Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 03:33:12 Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 03:33:12 Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Before I take the stand 300 on the plate You'll get it when you make it more Profit, quick return I make the terms Then I set the course Barely conversate with niggas I just rather cut them off Had to move away from Cutting tides if the feelings forced I remember rainy days Up and down that interstate
Starting point is 03:33:34 Now we shootin' rollies Feel a freeze when I bust a face Think I'm tryna duck the fence Then it's time to make a play 100 miles an hour Tunnel vision Never press the brakes Had to be a visionary
Starting point is 03:33:43 Seein' through that county glass Open therapy you sick when you in that van. I ain't never gone back So I had to build a plan 50 piece of my 300 you can do the map I'm really talk up on the phone to use that bandwidth Conspiracy and niggas making statements got my man stiff call kill the swallow when you realize that your man snitch gang My only brothers you can miss me with that ocean had to change the Hatties taking losses Gotta play it Stay with pistols try make a band lead just to my silence
Starting point is 03:34:13 I die before I take this day lately I've been realizing niggas moving different around me let that paperwork surface make sure no snitches around me I was in the kitchen daddy on a mission whipping around me You can't look me in my eyes when talking you should get from round me Grew up in the jungle Ellis Island bunch of killers round me Emotionless adolescents do not catch no feelings round me I done watched niggas point out niggas who do dealings round me Knocked the feeling out of nigga fuck how he was feeling bout me
Starting point is 03:34:36 I really came from the trenches fought my homies in the park I left my stain on the bitches the way we hurt the opps by running trains on they bitches I had snot before the walkAP, them niggas paid for prescriptions We don't really talk up on the phone or use that bandwidth Conspiracy of niggas making statements got my man stiff Heart pill to swallow when you realize that your man snitched Gang my only brothers, you can miss me with that fam shit Had to change the band, just taking losses,
Starting point is 03:35:00 gotta play your hand Send 29 Ps in one week, I better change your man I was up and down that interstate with pistols trying to make a band I pledge allegiance to my silence, I die before I take the stand It's Louis J, Arsenal, Turkey Bags Shout out to the guys man Alright, I'm gonna play some El Camino, this is Who I Am What you talking about? I used to sit and wait for my pops and he never came And at the time, that shit would hurt me more than anything Out on this world on my own, no one gave me anything
Starting point is 03:35:55 This shit deep, but let me tell you about what hurt the most Let me tell you about what hurt my soul Wish I could tell you about what made me smile I just lost my little sis i ain't laughing a while can't even hug my mama love this shit bringing me down and when i shed my tears granny can't sing to me now i don't really got no one i depend on for love poppin 1942s i depend on the bus and when i overcome my struggles just stay where y'all was Shit, stay in the club They can't stack up nothing nice cause they stay in the club
Starting point is 03:36:30 I barely ever go cause I don't get played in the club For like, since my first six figures I been prone for love I wonder would the pain go away But then again, then again, then again Then again I don't know Because it make me who I am I wonder where the pain go away But then again, then again, then again Then again I don't know Because it make me who I am
Starting point is 03:36:59 Yo, ready or not man, here I come So who ready for me? It feel good to finally be making steady money Would've done Lord knows what just for petty money They ain't told me from the jump that it would be this hard I dealt with pain, but I never thought I would be this scarred That's why my eyes water when I'm breathing hard Heart broke to so many pieces, just leave me alone
Starting point is 03:37:24 It get lonely at the top. I just stay in my throne I miss my family still came over when I wasn't home I was put out in the rain and still weathered the storm and always had a flyer's clothes but just watch me perform Just just another clip of me doing all wrong on the road to succession with So long I'ma give it all I got cause I waited so long Ain't much left to say, just pray for my moms And these sucker ass niggas, they hate it so long I wonder where the pain go away
Starting point is 03:37:57 But then again, then again, then again Then again I don't know Because it make me who I am I wonder where the pain go away But then again, then again, then again Then again, I don't know Because it make me who I am It's El Camino, Who I Am, off his new album, which is out now.
Starting point is 03:38:25 Name of the album is Let There Be Light. It's what you got for us today. Nansal Ahmadi featuring Majid Jordan. The song is called Different. All right. International Calling ya, baby I'm calling ya Where you at, can't you not answer me now Tell me now, cause I'm missing you Dreaming of me kissing you
Starting point is 03:38:54 Put it down, baby why you filming now Nothing now, take you out, I've been out Don't know why I'm missing you Dreaming of me kissing you Falling in love, can't give it up I need you more, baby girl, now take me, wake up Don't keep me up, I'm deep in love I need you more, baby girl, now take me, wake up
Starting point is 03:39:23 Different, I don't recognize you With all these different pretty girls in my life, baby You're so different, I don't recognize you With all these different pretty girls in my life Tell me what up in the morning or in the night You know, won't do you wrong, I've been Mr. Right You know that I see you, yeah, yeah You're shining, I need you, yeah, yeah
Starting point is 03:39:50 She not nice, but she looking nice Cold hearted, I can break the ice The moment I see you, yeah, yeah There's no way I'll leave you, yeah, yeah Falling in love Can't give it up I need you more Baby, can't give it up
Starting point is 03:40:06 I need you more, baby, God, no, take me, walk up Don't keep me up, I'm deep in love I need you more, baby, God, no, take me, walk up You're so different, I don't recognize you It always different, pretty girls in my life Baby, you're so different, I don't recognize you It always different, pretty girls in my life That is Nunso Ahmadi I hope I'm saying that name right
Starting point is 03:40:55 And Majid Jordan Different It's a little Summer slap Love Majid Jordan Of course Love them Of course Yo them Of course
Starting point is 03:41:05 Yo we didn't Before you close out We have a couple Rest in peace Rest in peace Yes rest in peace Mary and Barbara That hurt my soul
Starting point is 03:41:12 Yeah We got more Dave Smith He invented MIDI Yeah Amongst other things Brilliant synthesizers
Starting point is 03:41:21 All that shit you hear on 07 O'Shakes album He invented all them stuff But to do that in the 70s Right And a lot of my favorite people today Like Brilliant synthesizers. All that shit you hear on 07 O'Shakes album, he invented all them stuff. But to do that in the 70s, right, and a lot of my favorite people today, like, pay tribute, pay tribute. And Just Blaze, for one,
Starting point is 03:41:39 was like, yo, in the 70s, to make all the machines that people use communicate with each other. Like, that was the only line I needed to hear about this gentleman yeah so like when you see a producer show up somewhere he's got a laptop and a little keyboard and he just plugs it into it he's controlling that that was dave smith invented that and that's ridiculous yeah in the 70s see more names see that's what i mean like more people should know that name yeah yeah that's to the earlier point about what the dude the director dude was saying about what the shit is happening in Hollywood with the movies and just the culture of it. Like, that's culture to me.
Starting point is 03:42:08 Yeah. Yeah, it is. It is culture. Also, rest in peace to Leo Goff. He was an engineer. Worked very closely with Yo Gotti in his entire camp. Did all the mixing and everything. Yeah, he passed away as well over there.
Starting point is 03:42:24 Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Rest in peace to Master P's daughter, Tatiana Miller. Oh, yeah. Rest in peace. Yeah, that one.
Starting point is 03:42:31 It's just been a lot. I saw they putting John Madden on the cover of Madden this year with I Think It's Dope kind of in the same vein of Rest in Peace. Yes.
Starting point is 03:42:40 Yeah. True. Rest in peace, John Madden. And Big Ol got a street name for him In New York Long overdue Who does? Big Ol
Starting point is 03:42:49 Really? Yes Didn't I see Remy had something too? In the Bronx? I believe she does too Yeah I saw that They were doing something
Starting point is 03:42:56 And she unveiled her street name I'm off of my finals takes But what I will say is Jeff Van Gundy was severely missed On the commentator Commentator tip Severely missed by me I almost wanted him final takes, but what I will say is Jeff Van Gundy was severely missed on the commentator. Commentator too. Severely missed by me.
Starting point is 03:43:09 I almost wanted him, he should have been home in at least his living room commentating. He needed to be there. He and Mark Jackson got chemistry. He and Mark Jackson bounce off each other,
Starting point is 03:43:19 they crack on each other, they do all of that. They just got a friendship and a chemistry that is hard to just replace. And him and Mike Breen, like, they put,
Starting point is 03:43:28 he be with the goats, you know? Yeah. Commentating these games, and we'll get out of here, we'll talk on Patreon, but commentating these games is,
Starting point is 03:43:35 it's an art. It's a skill. It's a skill to it. Talking period. But again, even with that, the chemistry that, Doris Burke,
Starting point is 03:43:42 shout out to her. Doris Burke is amazing. Hubie, Hubie at 89 years old. He's 80, huh? Oh, yeah. Hubie is 89 years old. I mean, that's off the top.
Starting point is 03:43:51 He might be 87, but- He knows basketball like the back of his hand, though. No question. You know what I'm saying? We got to get that while we can get it, right? Like when Dick Vitale went down for a little bit with his health, college ball missed out, and we missed out. And then he came back, it was you know i mean
Starting point is 03:44:06 we we need that we need that um um rest in peace to uh the kid jeff gladney not familiar from the vikings he passed away him and his girl yes his girl passed away damn that one i want to get into some more on patreon with the driving and thank god that the other car that they hit was completely safe and sound uh that young woman people were familiar with her from instagram really yeah yeah yeah nah her last insta story was them in a vehicle his last stories were there were them outside turning up having a good time uh there's been no toxicology yet so i won't speak on it but thank god that the other car was okay right right so that's important yo again i say here all the time some of y'all think it's the outro life is a series of moments
Starting point is 03:44:59 it's not an outro i don't say it just to say it, even though it might sound cool. But it's a series of moments, and moments pass. So let's appreciate these shits while they're here. Let's love the people that we love to be around. Let's avoid the people that we hate to be around. Let's cherish our family. Let's just make the phone calls we need to make. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:45:22 That's important to me. I think about shit like that. You never know. You never like that you never know you never know you never know you just don't know so you want to live like that keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there until the next time we bid you adieu farewell adios arriba dirty hasta la vista arbois so long goodbye peace 100 all of that good stuff last but certainly not least the baddies are insecure the stagnant women want to travel and i will take them that game that game ain't leaving
Starting point is 03:45:53 no time so and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things grab a tylenol you might get a headache or migraine sometime soon uh shout out to all the creators the podcasters out there Nori Nori's been texting me I don't know if it's smoke If it's love Nori's kicking ass Gilly's kicking ass People are kicking ass out there yo And I love to see it man
Starting point is 03:46:16 Shout out to everybody out there Doing what they gotta do to get by Amazing what we can do When we are well rested This was amazing gentlemen Salute to each of you Salute to each of you This Salute to each of you. This was phenomenal. And I'm gone, man.
Starting point is 03:46:30 Y'all hold it down. I don't know what the weather is this weekend. I'll be with my baby. I'll be with my youngest. I'll be in the house just taking a sabbatical because you did a lot. You did a lot. Joe Budden with your little hot ass this week. You did a lot. You did a lot. I mean, I'm sure other people here did a lot too, but won't talk about it on air. I did a lot. You did a lot. You did a lot. I mean, I'm sure other people here did a lot too,
Starting point is 03:46:46 but won't talk about it on air. I did a lot. I did a lot. Anybody else did a lot? Nah. I did not. Just me and 21 Savage, yo. How many bars you went to?
Starting point is 03:46:58 A lot. A lot of these? No, I didn't. How many people you met? A lot. Don't worry about it. Yeah. I love his show. You my guy. J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J-J- Thank you to Nick Cannon and shout out to him. Salute to him. That was awesome, yo. It really was. And I'm not just saying that.
Starting point is 03:47:26 Super inspirational, yo. 070 Shake, Aaron Ray, we love y'all. Post Malone, I'll wait four years for you to get it right. We out of here. We out of here. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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