The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 542 | "Respect The Leather"

Episode Date: June 15, 2022

Joe kicks things off by recapping his time at Summer Jam and giving an update on Gunna since his arrest (33:00). Joe also speculates on Verzuz battles, including Mario vs. Omarion and Juelz Santana vs. Lloyd banks (1:05:00). Then, the Lobby Boyz (Maino and Jim Jones) join the J.B.P. to discuss their new album (1:40:00) and MORE!   Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things J.B.P.: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks Joe | Legazy - “Day Off” Ice | Big Moochie Grape - “East Haiti Baby” Parks | Hus Kingpin - “Creep” Ish | Kaleem Taylor - “Until”

Hell's going on. Don't blink at me like that. What's going on? How's everybody doing? Good, man. Ice is good. Got his matching turquoise going on. Parks is good.

Got his all black uniform on. No deal. Ish is good. Got the hoochie daddies on today. Show some skin. Got the hoochie daddies on the seven inch joints. Never that. Got the legs.

What, hoochie daddies? Never had no choice. That's all they sell nowadays. Damn. It's hard. It's hard. Those are about seven inches. No, they're not. What, who's your daddy's? This nigga had no choice. That's all they sell nowadays. Damn. It's hard. It's hard. Those are about seven inches. No, they're not.

What do you think they are? I'm sitting down. Nigga, these come to my knee. Oh, that would be like. How long you had them? Nine to 11 something. Did you just buy them? 11 inch.

Pause. You didn't just buy them. Go try to buy them now. That's what I'm saying. A million of them over there. New York is doing this thing where they only give us a super nice day when we pod. Facts. The best days are when we pod.

Facts. They've been pretty. I think that's bullshit. It is some bullshit. Call God. Corey. You know, that's the harp machine, man. Call the harp machine.

It's wrapped around the JVP. Yeah. Oh, okay. They tuned in. All right. Do you guys have important opinions to give away to the people today about anything? Yeah. All right.

So we should have some fun then. I don't know if I have any. Uh-oh. I'll see. I'll see as the topics come up. See if we get mild, mild Joe on a Wednesday. Mic check, one, two, one, two. Microphone check, mic check, one, two, one, two.

Here we go. I saw some R&B brackets going around. I did see some too. They all had New Edition winning. I guess I'm not all the way mad at that. I can't believe that. I'm not mad at that. Saw something different.

I saw something that I would like to question with you gentlemen here today. Okay. I don't love her. Yes, you do. I tried to tell myself. Stop lying to yourself. But you can see it in my eyes Love is in his eyes So don't deny

I can't no longer Hope everybody's feeling good out there Shout out to wherever you might be listening from Shout out to the ladies listening And you niggas I guess I think it is enough Why do I feel this way I ain't loud enough in my headphones.

Turn me up in the headphones, please. Turn me up in the headphones. Hold on. Hope everybody had a real good weekend and a good Monday, Tuesday. Yeah, there we go. Give me the sound like I'm smoking sal, you know what I mean? Shout out to all the corporate people listening. The young boys, niggas in the streets.

Shout out to niggas in jail listening. Hey. Niggas just broke up with their girl yesterday. I start with this, right? It's fucked up. Nigga listening to the pod just start crying. Shout out to y'all. Might be a long summer for you.

Or not. Or a great summer. Or a great summer. Sometimes there'll be the lit summers. Yeah, but even that gotta come after the heartache and pain of the breakup. Nah. Like, you gotta go curl up for a week or two before you get out there. Or you get out there and then after you're back home alone, you're sad again.

But, you know, tomorrow's another day. Once you get out there, I'm never home alone again. She's going to stay with me. Why do I feel this way? Why does she stay on my mind? She got that grubber. That's why. You love I was so bad You make me feel so sad Inside

If it is love It's almost a shame of travesty to cut that. You need the bridge kind of, but it's all good. No, the artists out there need to start making bridges again. That's a fact. Well, it's hard to do that when everyone's trying to force you to make two-minute songs. That means you have to find a space for a bridge. That's what I say.

Two-bar bridge and shit. If you're making a two-minute song or two minute and 20 second song you have to find a way for a bridge the third verse is dead oh it's been dead i know but the bridge is kind of i don't care about they're killing the bridge i know and i don't like that i feel you i know that i'm playing all this old shit yesterday on amp and it's like you want to cut a song off but they they're not going to go crazy until the end of the song where the bridge is. That's what they did in old songs. Today, these niggas, lazy saxist shit, I tell you.

This song ain't even the same song without the bridge. That was freaking in the 80s. That was freaking in the 80s. That was freaking in the 80s. That's Ish. Love her, what? That's the front he is. All right. Yeah, I'll find.

I'll cut it there, even though you shouldn't. Microphone check. One, two, what is this? How's everybody doing? What up? Y'all know who it is. You know what you're here to see. Some of you have been here for a while.

Some of you have not. Salutations. Hope everybody's feeling good, feeling great, well-nourished, well-rested. Hope everyone's mental health is good. I hope the shit you do in your spare time is awesome and you're having a blast. I hope that you are moving moderately with your vices. Not too much, not too little. Sure.

are moving moderately with your vices. Not too much, not too little. Sure. I hope that you have all of your relationships intact and in order. Side chicks included. And I wish health, wealth, and prosperity to you all. With that being

said, everybody that's supposed to be here is here. Yeah. What's up? Well, TSK is not here, but you know what I mean. Wait, Rob's not here? Oh, shit. Look at me. What's up? Well, TSK is not here, but you know what I mean. Wait, Rob's not here? Oh, shit. Look at me. Where's Rob? He had some family business to take care of or something. Something of that nature.

Who's the head of communications at this network? Who the hell is supposed to tell me that? Niggas just do what they want, huh? Oh, man. This might be the episode we get canceled. He's not here. Who's taking time stamps? We all are working together. Oh, yeah. We're canceled. We're out of here. This might be the episode we get canceled. He's not here. Who's taking time stamps? We all are working together. Oh, yeah.

We're canceled. We're out of here. Welcome to the last episode of the JVP. 542. We made it. Now, on this R&B bracket that's running around, I have no issue with any of it. It was part of my interruption. It was group or solo or mixed?

I think it was group. I think they were doing groups. Got you. They were doing groups. New you. They were doing groups. New Edition won all of the ones that I saw. Now, another question. Sorry to interrupt again. Time frame.

Here it is. Boyz II Men versus New Edition. Man Condition versus High Five. Silk versus H-Town. Blackstreet versus Guy. Okay, so this was modern. We have Jodeci, Tony, Tony, Tony. 112 versus After 7. Drew Hill versus Bellevue. DeVoe, Jagged Edge versus Next. black street verse guy okay so this is this is modern we have joseph c tony tony tony 112 verse

after seven drew hill verse belvedere jagged edge versus next now everybody made their own bracket but on a lot of the ones i saw it's it's corrected here they had guy beating black street no and i No. And. I don't know about that. It pains me to say. I don't think that's true. Yeah, I don't know. I'm on the other side of that coin. Of course you are. Why? This guy.

See, and I need more than that. That's the same thing I did when I read it. Guy dominated. That's disrespectful to Guy. It feels like off name recognition. No, Guy dominated the 90s. No, they didn't. Okay.

No, they did not. Have you said that? They didn't dominate the 90s at all. They didn't dominate the 90s. Their biggest hits came in the late 80s. When was Lou Jack's swing era? Late 80s. Very early 90s.

I like his 80s record. Yo, Goodbye Love is a 90s record. Goodbye Love didn't dominate anything. You watch your mind. What did it dominate? Okay. We could have a disagreement, but. Peace of My Love, Fantasy, I Like, and Let's Chill are 80s records.

None of those records are in the 90s. And that got to be real late 80s. Let me check that. 88, 89. I don't know about that. Well, we'll look it up. But as we continue to talk. And those are their four biggest records.

How do they get Blackstreet out of here? Part of my ignorance. I know I'm from the generation that is supposed to agree with this. But I don't. I like those 88. Let's Chill was... This is going to re-release so they don't have the proper release date on it.

Peace My Love was also 88. That guy album was 1988. Then the next album was 90. Yo, those two albums was crazy. But to say they dominated The 90s So that's incorrect We don't have to stay on that That part is incorrect

I don't But Blackstreet Their run might not have been The longest either But I'm picking these Blackstreet records I'm going Blackstreet Maybe

And it could be age Just off the strength of Before I Let You Go Joy No Diggity Don't Leave Leave Me, Tonight's the Night. I love Money Can't Buy Me Love. They just got more records I love than Guy. And that sounds fucked up.

But it's true. Don't sound fucked up to me. I'm rolling. And Guy don't be Blackstreet in the verses. I mean, it's a hard verse. Yeah, because there's an overlap. Okay, and I think that you can go on.

I think Teddy Riley is one of the greatest. He is. Keep going. So I think that he can make something really great and then go on and make something greater. Sure. Now, maybe, I will never say that Blackstreet has had the impact that Guy has had. No.

I won't say that. Because Guy, I think, influenced Jodeci and the rest of them. But yeah, I'm rolling with Blackstreet. What's going on? What do y'all want to start with? What do y'all want to talk about? Energy up. What's up?

What's happening? Well, you went to Summer Jam this weekend. How'd it go? Oh, let me hit the drops. I don't think I did that right. And Parks just will not fix these drops. No, no, no. No, no, no.

No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no.

No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no.

No, no, no. It's Parks. It's Parks. What's up? The new ice. Okay. New ice. Okay. New ice. I did go to Summer Jam, kind of, like a Summer Jam of Jace.

Would you just hang out in the parking lot? So Saturday, this is what I realized. When I don't have my kid, I don't know what to do with my life. Bored as hell. Yeah, I'm at the age, right, where all of my friends are 40 and 45 years into their lives as well.

38 years into their lives. They've got families, kids, responsibilities, new marriages, houses. Like, there really is nobody to call up and say, hey, you want to run to the beach real quick? Unless it's a thotty.

Alex, you good? My fault. And that's a dangerous game when you just are through the Rolodex of thotties for your Saturday. So I just go up the street, get a little brunch at the local bar uh I happen to see Ebro there right uh the audience doesn't know but we thought about going to actually work Summer Jam for a second that didn't work out so when I saw last minute so yeah great idea but two last minute uh so when I saw Ebro he said hey you should just come and hang out and I said well I

never even thought about that that didn't even enter my brain as like an option right so sunday came and i wasn't doing a thing so i hop up pretty early around three o'clock let's say and i run over there now summer jam doesn't start till six i didn't really realize i was gonna go too but it's supposed to rain so I was like Festival stage early Yeah but even that was I felt like later I felt like it used to start earlier 3.30

but I could be wrong Festival stage is early Summer Jam starts at 6 and they're going to run late so you're thinking 7, 7.38 something like that

Yeah So I get there at 3 and I'm just roaming around by myself None but police they're setting up like a lot of police i'm sure and traffic because people are getting ready to come to summer jam yeah so i was wandering like a lost little yorkie for a little while and then i see no now i end up on the stage now that now'm on stage. While people are rapping or it's still set up?

No, I'm the only one here. The outside stage or the inside? I wasn't nowhere near festival stage. I'm trying to see where you at. That took a little walk. No, the main stage. Okay, so you went inside. It's just me.

That's hilarious. There's no audience. Drinking a coffee on stage by yourself. You'll never go in that early period. Even without a pass. I know, but this is media Joe now. Still not. Huh?

You start. You start bumping it up. No, no, no, no, no, no. Eber asked me that same thing. No, I don't see stages or people performing and start missing it and getting the style. I don't. Yes, you do. No, I do not.

Yes, you do. I love when y'all tell me about me. Y'all explain. Because I just saw you repost a video that somebody put up of you performing on stage. You're like, damn, I kind of miss those. But I just know how much you- I didn't say that. She said that.

I know how- Those weren't my words. What'd you say? I'd have to go look, but I didn't say that. Those were her words. All right. I know how much you liked performing when it was the right situation. And I find it hard to believe that you don't miss that on some level.

I don't. Interesting. Rapping? No, we've had this talk here before. I'm not getting into that bag again, but shit, singing them songs was depressing and sad, and it was mad words. Well, that's why I said in the, you know,

some of the fun when we would do the shorter fun set, I feel like you would enjoy that. I'm like, I'm old. I want to age. I don't want to keep hopping around on stage. I don't. That's me. I'm not saying that people are not having fun.

But anyway, I'm just sitting on an empty stage. And then I bump into Nessa, who works at Hot 97, and Colin Kaepernick. Nice. Her significant other. And then we get to chopping it up. And then Ebro comes. And then E get to chopping it up and then Ebro comes and then Ebro says, hey, do y'all want to go see

Cardi at the festival stage? Well, sure, Ebro. I ain't doing shit but sitting here doing nothing. And I thought that that meant that we would go to like her trailer. No.

It's not what he meant. And the festival stage is mad far over there no golf cart you gotta get through like other levels of security they not respecting the all access

just a lot going on but we finally get over there and it's a mess a million people with cameras and phones and words and questions

eyes staring all at you hey can I get a pic? Hey, I was in third grade with your nephew. Hey, I think your mom knows my aunt they grew up in. Yo, dog, I don't give a fuck about any of this.

I'm only back here to see Cardi. Know who I saw? Everybody else. Saw Saucy Santana. I saw Beloved. I saw everybody else saw Saucy Santana I saw B-Love I saw Fresher right but then Cardi comes on

and long story less long Cardi wasn't on the show she wasn't on she wasn't out on Summer Jam main stage no she wasn't booked

wasn't supposed to be there she just came out to do the festival stage and get and get out of there. B-Love was performing. She popped up with him, got the fuck out of there. I thought that that was the flyest shit in the world. How is that fly?

And when I asked her about it, she said, well, I just always felt like the festival stage was the lit stage. And niggas did used to kind of feel like that a little bit. But you wanted the bigger look. Of course. So you did Summer Jam Jam but when you big enough you just do what the fuck you want yeah that's what made this

so dope to me like Cardi could have gotten brought out by damn near anybody on that main stage no question by anybody

by anybody that's what I'm saying but you do it to the festival stage an artist of her stature. That's super dope. We talk about people getting too big and scared to, not scared, but they don't give back necessarily

to the smaller. You'd never see this. You'd never see a super duper star. You'd never see this. Go do some. Never. Well, that was my other point. Standing back there just observing,

it was a stark reminder that this girl is really her, yo. Nah, she don't. I mean, we know that. But when you see it in action around other artists at a festival, right? Like, you forget how big of a production Summer Jam is. There's a lot of people there working. There's police, there's fans, there's media. It's just a lot going on some people when they come the crowd just got to move like moses

so to see that i just be proud of her man super happy for cardi i want to shout out ebro thank him uh i want to shout out uh colin nessa for making that a great time while my anxiety and my angst was running rampant. But anyway, once Cardi got off that stage and she left, I left. Oh, it was there for you? Yes. That's no fun. You mean like left? I went home.

Oh, man. You missed a hell of a show. I'm sure. I heard it was great. I saw a lot of clips. I saw a lot of clips. I saw a lot of footage. But just the way I'm built and made up, my brain told me,

oh, this is only going to get more congested. No question. And more packed. And then I thought back to me being an artist at Summer Jam, remembering how it is when the artists run in, their whole entourage,

only this amount of time to get to the stage, perform, get out you're seeing people you're handshaking traffic cops are gonna get even more aggressive soon

I wanna go I don't do well in them instances many people tell you they're introvert and they are fucking liars I really mean it when I say it

and I'd rather be home check this out I went to Summer Jam too from the comfort of my home in the Oculus. Inside versus outside. All right. All right.

All right. Hey. The topic that won't die. I'm just saying, they actually had the Summer Jam stream live in the Oculus. See, I was mad

because I was trying to, I was kind of banking on the stream. I was going to go because a couple of Rem's friends were going. She wanted to go. I was like, yeah, fuck it.

Let's go. But it was supposed to rain. I was like, fuck it. I'm just going to stay home and watch the stream. Couldn't find the stream for the life of me. The former title used to have it, and then over here used to have it. Apparently, they had their own stream on their site that they sold.

I wish I would have known that. I didn't know that either. That's smart. I follow a lot of Hot 97 people, and I didn't see anybody mention that. Somebody sent me a graphic like, like yo we really got Summer Jam in the metaverse and I'm like okay

I wanna see what this is about pardon me Ice we gonna have to turn the air on in this place oh damn I thought

it was on but um yeah you you literally you damn near on stage that's dope right in front

of the stage that is amazing like there was there were three camera angles you had and you were just about standing on like standing right in front of that is amazing like there was there were three camera angles you had and you were just about standing on like standing right in front of whoever's performing on stage looking left and right and the entire show I mean the only thing where I don't know if it was a mess up it was a time

a lot it's thing allowance all right so give me your takeaways from summer jam little Dirk is him mmm like I was wondering i didn't know how the lineup was gonna go i knew little baby was on it and i knew little dirk was on it yeah so i was wondering who would go first i've never seen either one of them perform live so i was just wanting to see their shows their sets dirk is a straight up rock star. And it was, it was wow. Like he went through his, from four projects ago up to current records,

brought out guests, brought out French. It's New York. Right. I'm mad at it. And it was signed to him previously, brought out his crew. They did records.

He did a Vine record, did Back in Blood. Yes-ish. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did Back in Blood. Yes-ish. Yeah. Yeah, I was in there. I know you was. With the goggles on while in? Excuse me?

Yeah, the goggles on while in? Oh, yeah. While in the crib. With the goggles on. And it was just an experience to be like, I felt like I was there, but I'm still in the house. Like, I don't have to worry about traffic. Fights. Nothing.

And I got a better view than all y'all. That shit about to make. For free. That shit about to make mad bread. When they start really feeling like. Because he just said, yo, I ain't have to be there. I got the real show. From the comfort of my home with them things on.

I mean, it's not the real show, but it's a close conversation. Why is it not the real show? There's something about being in a room of people, man. It's a different... Stop it. We're not getting back in.

Yeah, no, no, no. We're not getting back in. Ice enjoyed his Oculus show. Yeah, which is great. What's happening there? Who are all these people on stage? Now, one thing I wanted to ask y'all. And the stream messed up because it cut before Fabio's set.

That's why. And when he came out, he had on a crown and he had on a cape that said King of New York City. Okay, he's embracing it. And I want to ask what y'all thought about that. Do y'all think he is the King of New York City today? At my big age, I will not get into that. Because I don't care. I know what they mean

when they say it and what they're trying to do. What is that? I still am unclear on what king of New York is. Well, it's always been the hottest artist in New York.

That's kind of how it went from a whole, I mean, from big to whole to then when 50 says New York's mine. I have never put. People have put a claim on it. I'm the hottest. I'm the king of New York.

I have never given that title to anyone outside of Biggie and Hov. When 50 came and was hot, I never said he's the king of New York. When Ja came and was hot, I never said he's the king of New York. When Fab had his run, I never said he's the king of New York. That's because Hov was still Hov. You can't say they're the king of New York while When Fab had his run, I never said he's the king of New York. That's because Hov was still Hov. You can't say they're the king of New York while Hov was still Hov-ing. I just don't put king of New York on the hottest.

I don't put king of anywhere on the hottest. What are you doing in your community? There's a bunch of things that I could attribute to why someone is calling him the king. Fabio, most would say you can't sell that amount of records and be the king of New York. But I'm not going off that

when he says it. It's a feeling. It's a feeling. It's a feeling. The whole city's behind him. Hottest in New York, that's debatable. I mean, I don't know.

Like they were saying, like even he said it, you know, Pop Smoke was the king of New York and now he's not here. It's mine. Yeah, he said that

on Alicia Keys records. Yeah, but niggas get to be saying whatever on these records palm smoke was here for how many years but unfortunately joe that's what it takes you say something on the record and start moving like you believe it and the fans will treat it as fact i've seen it happen plenty of times that's why i started with i don't engage in this because i know why they do it that's why they do it you are absolutely right if i say it enough times the fans will rally behind it it might become fat t.i said he was the king of the south and everybody had a problem with it but he started behaving like the king of the south and then it stuck wayne said greatest rapper alive and people were saying no you're not

this person this person but he started behaving like it and it stuck talk to me about the shit that has perks that come along with it. Like these self-imposed titles. I think you have to self-impose the title though. That's not true. You have to. This is all marketing shit. You have to.

You got to self-impose the title and then back it up. But if you don't self-impose the title they're not going to just crown you some shit. Shit. I mean, I i think i think that

you could be on such of a run and you could be so impactful that somebody else can say yo he's such and such or she's such and such but niggas don't say it you gotta say it and make niggas believe it niggas ain't giving props out yo he's him especially not your peers shit that's when you really are out here moving. Give me an example where the peers said this outside of when the West anointed Kendrick as the next up. That's the only time I've seen that happen. Anointed.

Anointed. Anointed. Anointed, sir. Excuse me. It happens. We ain't perfect. Outside of Kendrick being anointed when Snoop and all of them came together and put the crown on his head, that don't happen. You got to snatch that title and then back it up.

And then what do you get? I get where Joe's going. What does it get you? What is the perk? I said I'm the king of New York. I backed it up. Sold a lot of records. Mad dudes believe me.

Now what? I don't know. You know how this shit goes it's silly hip-hop shit i don't care call yourself what you want i don't care about that no it's a little bit so we've unpacked this so just so i'm clear we can get off of this y'all agree or disagree with that title that's all i was asking with him saying i am the king of new york do you agree or disagree with that title that's all I was asking with him saying I am the king of New York do you agree or disagree I agree sure nah but when anybody says it

it's like with a little bit of heat behind him it's like okay cool I'm trying to think who else would be in the running 6ix9ine said it

and none of these niggas could say nothing because he was the hottest nigga in New York and that's why he said it. But who acknowledged him that he didn't have to see those other boxes?

The respect amongst your peers. It's just everything that comes with it. I'm not talking about that damn 6ix9ine right now. So were there any other performances that were... Yeah, yeah.

I watched Pusha T go in there, and while I loved the records he performed, it felt like Summer Jam wasn't... Him and Benny. I just felt like that's not the crowd for them for some reason. It's a radio-centric performance, and they're not necessarily radio

guys, but Pusha has radio records. Historically. He did his new records. Push looks great go push and then went into like he did mercy he did a i don't like he even finished with grinding okay but the crowd was just like it was it was really a it was a dead crowd if i go anywhere with those three records and it don't pop off it's definitely the crowd's fault i feel you i can go anywhere in the world with them three records and feel like i'm strapped yeah not not a young summer gym crowd i don't know about them 26 year olds that i'm sorry ain't gonna hit like that it's still grinding i know but it still ain't gonna hit ain't grinding to them i'm doing grinding if it's in my heart you should do what you are

you should and they might not bop but it's grinding correct audience. You should do it. You should. And they might not bop, but it's grinding. Correct. Would you rather grinding be erased from the history of... Of course not. You got to do grinding. And he got... He could get in his

Chief Keef bag. He did that. I said it. That's what I'm saying. He got records he could get into for the young niggas, but... And also, they did the K-Slay tribute.

Okay. And it was... Rest in peace, K-Slay. Rest in peace, K-Slay. B. And it was... Rest in peace K Slay. Rest in peace K Slay. Busta Rhymes and Spliffstar came out first. Dope. Pat Pooce. Dope.

Shout out to Pat. Fat Joe Remy. Nice. D-Block. And The Set. The Set? The Set. Which is Jim Jones and Joel Santana.

Okay. That's a thing? Apparently. I have my theories, and I'll leave it alone. That's what the hell them other two should have done. Look how simple that is. I have my theories. Why they couldn't just do that?

Anyway. So Governor's Ball is Saturday. Roddy Ricch gets arrested at Governor's Ball. Checkpoint. Weapons in the car. You're coming with us. They didn't just take him. They took him and a few of his associates as well.

Roddy Ricch was released. Try saying that four times fast. Roddy Ricch was released in time to be at Summer Jam. That's what's up. And he goes on stage and tells the crowd to say, NYPD can suck my dick.

Ooh. Know what the crowd did? Exactly what they should have. They said, NYPD can suck my dick. Now, the crowd wasn't just released on bail the day before. The crowd may or may not be fighting charges along with their buddies. They're just screaming some shit for fun.

We got to get into what artists scream at the front of the stage and why you do it. You said there was a big police presence. All of us have done this before. Although it wasn't NYPD, I guess. Huh? The police at Summer it wasn't NYPD, I guess. Huh? The police at Summer Jam was not NYPD. So what? I know.

The gang is the gang. That is not true. I mean, it is true, but that's not true. The gang is the gang. It matters none. You think they're not going to try and jam him up the first chance they get for going out there and screaming, fuck any cop anywhere? He could have said, fuck Chicago cops.

And the cops out here would have had a problem with it. Yeah. And just why would you do it? I know. I've done it before, I'm sure. But why? Probably not the wisest thing. There's so many things the crowd can say, yo.

Yo, again, whatever happened to good old, everybody wave your hands from side to side. Why won't they say ho? Brooklyn! Yo. You got more than $100 in your pocket, but it like anything, dog.

And then we'll come in here. If they crack his fucking muffin, we gonna come in here and they crack his fucking muffin we gonna come in here and get mad at the courts fam money don't make you

impenetrable especially to your man John Law them niggas we got it out for you fam now you gotta come back that's what

you on bail you gotta come back we'll see you yeah yeah yeah you gotta come back holla at me you know what else I noticed about Summer Jam?

You playing that Roddy Ricch clip right there just kind of reminded me. Do you artists understand that this is June? Everybody had leather on. And I've seen this happen before. Some things never change. I'm not mad at them. You ain't swaggy with the young boys. They swaggy.

They sweating. So? They hating. That's hate? That's hate. Yeah, it might be hate. Bam, it's hot. It's summer. But you got to get fly. No swaggy. They sweating. So? That's hate? That's hate. Yeah, it might be hate. Fam, it's hot. It's summer.

But you got to get fly. No, no. It wasn't even that hot. Thank you, Alex. Tell him, man. He just started matching the turquoise. He don't know about wearing, he don't know about the leather

when it's hot out. Yeah, I don't. Nah, it's summer. You right. No, you right. Okay, my bad. You wanted to be mesh shorts? I'm not wearing the leather.

You want him in a hoochie daddy? Fam had on a whole leather, the top and the bottom. Come on, dawg. Alex, it's right. Okay, my bad. You want it to be mesh shorts? I'm not wearing the leather. You want him in a hoochie daddy? Fam had on a whole leather, the top and the bottom. Come on, dawg. Alex, it's hot. Yeah. Get him. Nah, that's fly. Come on.

Okay, salute, King. Part of fashion is sacrificing comfort. That is part of fashion. That's true. And it has been. For since forever. I'm on the beginning of the time. You on the flow.

I'm on the comfort side. Yeah, it's coming. It's coming. No, no, no. I'm on the comfort side. It's coming for you. We'll get there. You change. Ice. I change every day. It's coming. That's right. Y. Yeah, it's coming. It's coming. No, no, no. I'm on the comfort side. It's coming for you. We'll get there. You change.

Ice. I change every day. It's coming. That's right. Y'all see the new name. It's coming. We had a Young Thug message from behind bars. Yeah, it's crazy.

I read the Gunna one. The letter. Yeah, the Gunna one was kind of profound. What was it? He wrote a letter. It was a two-page letter basically that he put out i think it was his birthday is that what it was i know he wrote a letter basically saying the people that know me know me is this the letter yeah 2022 has been one of the best years of my

life despite this difficult situation this year i had the whole world pushing p growing up from where i come from in a marginalized neighborhood i never dreamt my art would change my life and the lives of my loved ones. My entire life, I've seen black men, black women and black children constantly attacked, hated, murdered, berated, belittled, silenced, judged, used and held captive. I use my art form, my gift from God to change my circumstance. I worked. I owned my craft. craft i worked i empowered black women in my industry i worked i lived in the recording studio i worked i lived on the road i worked i worked every day to show how grateful i am for my gift for my art for my life and to be able to provide for my loved ones for now i do not have my freedom but i am innocent i'm being falsely Oh, there's more.

Two pages. Okay. I get it. I understand. And this was released when? I'm assuming yesterday. I think it was today or yesterday. Well, yesterday. Today or yesterday.

Recording. Tuesday. You know what tends to happen, yo, especially with these young dudes, because of the content of the the music we really kind of don't humanize them facts like that's that's somebody's son you feel what i'm saying like that's somebody's kid that's somebody's son i don't know if they're innocent i don't know if they're guilty don't i'm not even going down that path i'm just saying at the end of the day when he breaks it down like this you look at him differently like yo this is this is somebody's

brother somebody's cousin you know i'm saying and we're in superstardom we've kind of forget that celebrities are people even the shit that they say on the blogs like about you or your family or like they don't give a fuck like these are human beings and so to me the letter kind of humanized him when i was reading it let me read his caption also it says 22 and 2 and for those that don't know that oh he's telling me just a bed and a shower no windows just walls can't see or talk to anyone i'm writing now and still praying every day i was raised to fight fire with water even though my country's amendments have failed me protect black art and that was another uh thing at summer, too, to protect black art. They have some initiative.

They were asking everyone to text protect black art. It was about the lyrics being used in court. Dirk brought Meek out, performed a couple of records, and then Meek gave this long PSA. He's like, listen, I'm one of the silent people behind this movement, you know, with his prison reform, et cetera. I'm one of the people behind this. This isn't about... This is about all of us. So just protect black art.

Protect black art. It should not be allowed to be used against us. No, it shouldn't. Sign the petition. Yeah. Sign the petition, man. And just... Again, it's just art.

It's just lyrics. Y'all already know where I stand on that topic. You know, if you're not sitting here outlining something directly, it shouldn't be allowed to be used against you. Agree. When the last pod ended, I asked you gentlemen specifically if you thought the Golden State Warriors would go down 3-1 in the finals. And all of you said yes, to my surprise.

But y'all are sports idiots, so I didn't think y'all would get it right. So now come in and answer for yourselves. Boston looked good in game three. So recency bias for you? Yeah. Does the same apply to you-ish? No, I just think Boston's a better team. I think Boston's a better team.

Boston won't win another game. No, I don't think they will. I've been saying that before. I was saying that before this two-game win streak. It's possible. Boston will not win another game in this series. Warriors in six. At some point, coaching and championship pedigree will just have to come out.

And you Boston fans, yo, fans impact the game. I remember I told y'all a story. I made Jason Tatum mad before Nick game and one time he went crazy. Like, fans impact a game. So while I normally think that Golden State would play cute in game six just to win it on their home floor, not now. No.

The Boston fans, y'all done pissed these guys off, and they're going to win it on parquet. Well, it's not parquet anymore, right? No. That's old Boston. Yeah, that's old. They're going to win it on par k well it's not par k anymore so that's the old boston they're going to win in boston and this is not just because of how the series is gone before this series started i never had the celtics winning game six you said that never had them winning game six that's the that's their game they're not gonna lose that you said that so

whatever happens before that was on the Warriors, man. And Boston didn't do what they needed to do. My take is they're finished. They go home at home. Yeah, I think they cracked their spirit in that last game in Boston. I think that last quarter. Yeah. Cracked their spirit.

Because I turned to it. I looked at it. It was halftime, and Golden State was up. And then at the end of the third, it was a one-point game. I said, oh, y'all getting ready to let them jump on your ass. What Jason Tatum will learn is that there's levels to being Kobe even. Like, Kobe didn't just pop up and become Kobe. No.

I watched him in the playoffs shooting air balls when he was 18. Like, there's levels. You got to go through it. So, you're putting a lot on his shoulders to just turn into the guy. Yeah. Like, he will be that guy. And he is the guy. But there's levels to guys.

And Wardell is just different, man. Even though he didn't show up last game. No, he didn't play that great in the last game. But that's why Boston should have won that game. Sure. If you cannot win the game when Wardell don't show up, if Wiggin and Clay and the rest of them start beating you, then what are we talking about here, man?

And that's just what's so scary about the Warriors. Even with him not showing up, he's such a threat that it allows somebody else to still cook you because he could not show up until the fourth quarter. All right, let me instigate. Let me instigate and try to wake you guys up. If the Warriors win, does that say anything about Kevin Durant? I've been waiting to bring back that argument for a while. Bring back?

What was your original argument for those that missed it? I think it was a Patreon episode. Oh, Steph versus KD. Steph versus KD. Well, then I bump into Amanmani last night, and he says something I've never heard, but maybe it should be acknowledged. He says if Steph wins, then that should open people's eyes up that they have KD ranked entirely too high on the all-time list.

I don't know that I agree with that because I have eyes. I don't know if I agree with that. What do the two have to do with each other? I don't think they have anything to do with each other. I think that arguably don't know if I agree with that. What do the two have to do with each other? I don't think they have anything to do with each other. I think that arguably... You know why it's being said. I do know why it's being said.

I just don't think for anybody that has a basketball brain that it's relevant. This would be Steph's... Go ahead and say this replaced KD. That nigga Jordan Poole

is an offensive juggernaut. He could score on anybody in the fucking world. I'm not going to call him a juggernaut, but I see what you're saying. Offensively, he's a problem. He ain't showed up this whole series.

Yeah. He ain't showed up. I can't call him a juggernaut, but go ahead. He's very skilled. Half of the team is not showing up. If you really want to be honest, it's Steph out there playing with Wiggins.

The rest of them niggas playing like shit. Looney playing okay, and the rest of them niggas are playing like shit. Klay looks whack. Draymond and his bully shit ain't working. Wiggins is out there saving the day like fucking Jesus Christ. Let's stick to our point.

You know why people would be saying this about Kevin Durant. Respond to that. I don't think the two correlate. I don't think it affects KD's standing as one of the greats. He is one of the greats. However, if the previous pecking order was him above Steph, I think that you would have to reanalyze that. I think that anybody that watched basketball

and watched the Golden State Championships when KD was there, KD was the alpha. Like in the fourth quarter, KD saved the day. It wasn't like he was out there getting 19 points and was riding the coattails at him. That's not what happened. They, KD saved the day. It wasn't like he was out there getting 19 points and was riding the coattails of them. That's not what happened. They rode KD. That's a fact.

He was an integral, integral, integral part of their championship run. So I don't think that dims his light. I just think they're a good basketball team. They have a great system. They're well coached, and they're veterans. Well, the knock before he got there was his ability to lead a team. They highlighted him leaving the Thunder when he had a 3-1

series lead against those very same Warriors. Now, I never pay any of that any mind, but this will be Steph's second team. Some could say third. Some could say third. Third lineup for sure. But this is the third iteration that he

has led to this. And some of that would, I think, have to say something about KD. Why? If I just say, if you previously had KD above,

man, you left to be the alpha, like the alpha, alpha, the undeniable alpha, right? Cause even now with him winning and I'm not staying on this forever. I want to get to the Currys and the wife swap. Like undeniable alpha. Right. Because even now, with him winning, and I'm not staying on this forever, I want to get to the Currys and the wife swap.

Like, that's the fun part here. But, yeah, I don't even care about this. KD is great. Steph is great. Y'all know how I feel about Wardell. He's him. He will always be him. Amazing.

I think if he gets a fourth chip, you put him in a different conversation than he was previously. I think he's arguing. And he'll get his finals MVP finally. Some people say Wiggins should be acknowledged a little more for that. We'll see what happens. He should, but Steph. I don't care what Wiggins do.

Steph is getting that award. He is getting that award. He carried him on his back for the first. That game four, he just dropped four quick 40. Took over. It was just, yo, he couldn't miss. And they played like shit. Again, the team is playing like shit.

Outside of Steph and Wiggins, the rest of those jokers are playing like shit. Now, after game four, they showed Dale Curry in the stands with some white meat. I posted that picture because I thought it was funny. I have to stop doing that. I can't act like the Reddit people. The first person to respond to my post was who? You guessed it.

Seth Curry. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. My man. We go back to the Duke games. He's run from Monopoly for that many years, but his career took off, so I don't blame him.

But we had a brief exchange. And while I won't divulge any of it, what he did say is, Pops is outside. Sucked the fun right out of my joke. I think I picked the fun. You know what it means that Pops is outside. But we knew that.

Where do y'all think that Steph got these great shooting skills from? The greatest ever. Yeah, shoot her. Del. Y'all thought Del stopped shooting? That's what I don't like when niggas be like, Joe, you 41. Stop fucking the bartenders.

No. Like, what age do you think niggas need to be at to stop? No. He's kind of got like, you know what I mean? Like the white hat, the gray beard.

You know what he's doing? He look like you. A few people say that. Now listen, this was funny enough alone. Before you learn anything else, Dale Curry with the white woman at the game was fun.

Know why it was fun for me? Because niggas, yo. Niggas. These are my kids. They've dominated the league. I've been at this game with my wife for ages. Camera's been on us. It've been at this game with my wife for ages. Camera's been on us.

It's been our daughter, our family. Y'all ain't. I know the intensity of playoff games. I know the extra coverage of a playoff game. But I do got to support my boy. And hey, white meat, why don't you come along with me? Nah, y'all missed it. Niggas know the position that they put people in, yo.

Remember when it was the Knicks he hit that record-breaking shot, right? I don't know. All right, well. I don't think it was. Steph was in. Del. Del, excuse me. Del was in the crowd, and he had two pieces with him.

He did. He did. And was looking, and that's when it was fresh. A snack box. Yeah, he had a little two-piece. And even then, it was like, oh, he's outside, outside. Like he had the shirt tucked in

with the belt showing. So he's been showing you, yo, no, just me. I'm him. Just me. I know,

but as men, we know that men can go outside. Really is it told that when you go outside, she did too. She did too. She did too. She putting, she did too. She did too. She put the dress on too. She did too. And guess what? She got tickets to the game

too. Mom Dukes. Hey, those my kids. My kids too now. Put me on the other side of the bleacher. Your dad is coming. And I got a little piece coming with me. Now, that's funny already.

It is. I don't need nothing else, but the internet sometimes will be the gift that keeps on giving. Time out. They was at the same game? Yes. I didn't catch that part. What? I saw the pictures.

I'm like, oh, that's fly. No, they were at the same game. Yeah, yeah. First of all, and this is why women are shady. It's only one game. This is why women are shady. I's only one game. This is why women are shady. I'm Del Curry. I was a player.

Now you break up with me and get with some nigga that look like a coach. That nigga look like a fireman. He look like a coach to me. He look like a high school basketball coach. Yeah, all right. Want to try to come in as the stepdad and give Steph pointers now. Yo, hello? I'm Steph Curry.

The fuck away from me and my mom. That nigga look like like Karen husband. So now, this gentleman is the ex-husband of the white woman that Del brought out. Yeah. Wife swap, nigga. We need a reality show. No, it ain't. I'm going to get you back.

I'm ready for the reality show. Is that your takeaway from this? I'm ready for the... Because for that your takeaway from this? I'm ready for the Cause for me this is only This is one of two things This is either When swinging goes wrong Get back

This is either that Oh shit This is either we were We're swingers Yeah And something happened Yeah it shows up a little different Or

Del was Deling Or one of us is Pettier than we should be Del-y Del Yeah And I'm going Now You go with the petty option

I could do both But But pick one I'm going with the swing going wrong I'm going petty And you can throw the petty The swing going wrong Could be related to the petty

It could I'm going with I'm going with Del out here Word That's what you want Watch this You got my word Okay I'm going with I'm going with out here word that's what you want watch this you got my word okay

I'm a we gonna get even that's it you're a vendor me yeah of course please share

crazy what I'm gonna get revenge you shoot at mine I'm gonna shoot up everything oh shit you crazy yeah I'm with you I've. You shoot at mine. I'm going to shoot up everything. Oh, shit.

You crazy? Yeah. I'm with you. I've gotten revenge for my friends. All your exes. Not just one. I want all of them. I've gotten revenge for friends. Every ex you ever had.

Don't let your sisters be a victim. What are you saying? How do you do that? What is going on? Nothing. You said expel. How do y'all do that? If you disrespectfully shoot at mine

your ex if you disrespectfully shoot at my at your ex niggas will shoot at your current work yup

but if it's your ex and if you knew it was my ex and we on that type of time then you are you're shooting at his exes or currents for the rest of life

I'm shooting at every body yes yeah nobody nobody safe yes yes nobody's off that's that's the game you want to play currently 46 years old if i were single and you shot at my girl

i'm shooting at everybody in your existence that is of the opposite gender but you have a girl so how could you do that he said if you're single he said if he was single but he said if i was single you shot at my girl no if you shot if you disrespect me i'm single today yeah niggas shoot at my girl x x that's where i was gonna yeah yeah cool it's on it's wait niggas can't shoot at y'all exes depending on yourselves and and think of an articulate podcast and share with me i'm about to say this if depends on the person I think it's about etiquette So if you know Such and such is my old work And this is how I operate in the world

So I'm not saying shit If I know a nigga used to pop I'll ask you Yo is it cool if I could pop Yo is it cool if I could shoot Yo is it cool if I could kill Yo so if a nigga said no. Yo, is it cool if I could kill? Yo, so if a nigga says. Yo, can I peel that thing back?

Yo, so again, if the dude says no, cool. Then I can't kill. But nine times out of ten, they already shoot. I don't think men listen to themselves. No, I'm listening. And you subscribe to this. That's how I conduct myself. Not still today.

I'm in a relationship but if i were not that you were not if i was single today and i know that ice used to talk to somebody or parks used to talk to somebody prior to me even remotely going in that direction i'm gonna ask they're okay i'll tell you about a situation where this happened in my life i was dating a girl we broke up but we're still kind of you know i mean working it out whatever whatever whatever i bring her around someone that you know outside friend circle wouldn't call him a homie but kind of the homie they hook up but he is his girl is friends with me she's going to be more than a friend now we were more than friends there you go there you go yeah sorry i'm gonna mario her out yall are disgusting. You call it whatever you want.

I was young. You're not young now. Well, he's not young now. Joe. And you with that. Yeah, I told you. Yes. Got it.

Got it. Got it. Like I said, I've taken it a step further. And I've. You say you do it for a friend. Yo, I've seen one of my homies disrespected. And he kind of played it off. Okay, well, I'm not cool with that.

You know, you hollered at his ex on some disrespectful shit. Okay, cool. I'll get back for him. Wait, this is y'all. You got to get back for your man. Yeah. 100%. What is you hollered at my ex in a disrespectful manner?

That is your ex. She has nothing to do with you. And how did you find out it was disrespectful? Somebody came and told you something? Yo, you can't take that stance. You can't take that stance. Because in your brain, you say... Who you talking to?

Me or Alex? You. Give it to me. In your brain, you say your exes are off limits for the end of the world. I'm listening. So you can't say yo it's disrespectful if somebody shoots at your ex hey when you try to bring like a pod joke in the real life oh no no so that's what you could say in your male machismo pride and if you're living in your ego hey all my exes off limits i

only take one ex to teach you that that's false i mean i certainly don't think that i have this uh hold on all of my ex's vaginas. I do not feel like that. So I just think that it's a manner of etiquette. I just feel like if we got some rapport. I think y'all are full of shit, but this is a good topic. I'm giving it a buck. Look, if we got some rapport.

Your ex is now dating a new nigga that you happen to know. He didn't do nothing disrespectful. No, listen. That could be the disrespect. How I know him. Who dictates, who determines that disrespect? Y'all?

Me. As a person outside of the relationship? The person disrespecting determines the disrespect. Y'all don't think that's ego and pride? The person disrespecting Oh, then that's it. I don't have nothing else to say.

No, I just said the person that's disrespected determines the disrespect. We say that. You can come in here and say I didn't mean for it to go that way but if if they take it that way, that's what it is. That's true. So I can take that.

I love how you're moving on. If we saying that. I got it. Like Chris Rock and Will Smith. Remember we came in and Chris Rock was like, yo, it's a silly joke. Everybody else's stance was, no, you don't get determined to determine if it's a silly joke. If you disrespected this man he's the person that entitles the level yo we're hardwood examples here what does that

have to do with this i i just said it fam if me and you know somebody got i'm trying to answer you i mean i'm trying to answer you if me and somebody got a level of a rapport i can take that as disrespect that you shoot that. He know that was your girl for three or four years. You knew that. So I take that. But they both moved on knowing who you was

and who you be. True. So? They did it. That's fine. That's fine. You are on the outside of that feeling like it's disrespectful.

That's fine. They feel like they know who you be. Okay. And this is what we did. Okay, my nigga. And now we here. And now we here. And this is what we're doing. And now we're here.

And now we're here. But what are you about to do about it? Nothing. What we just told you. Don't tell me again because we going in circles. No, because you just don't

want to hear what we're saying. It's not true. In this same discussion with Pete and Kanye and Kim, I was on this stance. I was saying, hey, that's disrespectful. Ish was saying to me,

who the fuck are you? To feel that way. Kim moved on. Pete moved on. They both happy. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He gave me all that. Boy, it's disrespectful. It's what's saying to me, who the fuck are you to feel that way? Kim moved on. Pete moved on. They both happy. He gave me all that. That's not true. That's not true.

That's different from my example. That's different from my example. I don't want to get confused. He was saying, because then he had that rapport. That's what counts in my example. Yeah, not just that. He was saying that

some of the things that he was doing, I'm not saying it's disrespectful that they're dating. That's cool. I said some of the shit That was going on Was the corny shit

Or the inappropriate shit Not the fact that they were In a relationship Okay I got it What is this shit you're showing me? The freshman class That looks like the freshman class

You know they do that every year It's time for this already? Yeah Apparently so Freshman class baby tron coach cheese saucy santana baby face ray kinderman so fago big scar big 30 casey dochi callie nardo wick i'm old congratulations to everybody i'm sure this is a huge achievement for all parties involved I don't care you shouldn't care

I don't care it's not for me I'm just gonna say in the last few years it's been a lot of who the fuck is that for me

I know half the names on here so I'm cool yeah I'm not I'm not mad at that so I can recognize some names I know the music

and a couple of these acts the ones that that I know, are deserving of it. Not saying anyone else isn't, but, you know, I know it's a big deal for the younger acts to get the freshman cover. Yeah, it is. So salute to everybody. Freshman show and freshman freestyle will be coming. We'll see. Mm-hmm.

They put Saucy Santana on the cover, huh? They tried to cancel Saucy Santana on the cover, huh? They tried to cancel Saucy. Yo, when you said that Saucy was going to be hosting Young Miami's show with her, the podcast, for some reason I was thinking of Sauce Gardner, and I've been laughing in my head ever since. Sauce Gardner. The dude that did Jed's draft.

The fourth pick in the draft. Yeah. I was talking about saucy sand. Yeah, I know. Sand. I know. But once I put two and two together, I was like, oh, man, bugger.

This is no longer a music pod. What do y'all want this pod to be? Football? This is like... Lifestyle. This is like... This is big football. Oh, Surf is here.

Round of applause for Surf. Hey. He made Surf. Hey. He made it. Hey. Huh? What'd I say? No. He made it back here.

He comes back after the battle rap community kicks him out of town. You know how I do. I thrive off the battle rap community, man. They keep me alive. They was on Surf's ass for a little while. That's what they do. We'll get to it later. We'll get to it later.

How you doing, Surf? I'm doing great. I can't complain. You look great. I'm glad to see you guys. doing sir i'm doing great i can't complain i'm glad to see you guys thanks i appreciate that you look great i'm glad to see you guys we're glad to see you as well brother good um yeah saucy santana tweeted some shit mad years ago about blue ivy was totally inappropriate shouldn't tweet those things about a child uh but he later apologized well he didn't really apologize he said he was young my bad and I learned, and y'all be trying to cancel niggas and get the fuck out of here.

I don't want to spend time on that. Lizzo put a song out and used the word spaz in the song. S-P-A-Z. Okay. Okay. And cancel culture came out. Yes, spaz is bad. Really?

Spaz is bad, yes. I didn't know that. Pull that up. Pull that up. I learned this as well. Okay. What is it? Who does it affect?

I'm waiting for him to pull it up so I can tell you because I've learned this. Disabled people. Why Lizzo's new song, Girls, is being called... Obleased. Obleased. Obleased. Do better. girls is being called a bleast a bleast do better lizzo is facing backlash on social media for using an a bleast slur ableist is that ableist ableist i'm just listening to surf fans of the star are

urging her to change the lyrics of the single or else remove it from streaming services altogether disability advocates immediately condemned the song upon its release on Friday for its use of the word derived from the term spastic amen can I can I spastic

according to Collins Dictionary surf is defined as someone who is spastic is born with a disability which

makes it difficult for them to control their muscles especially in their arms and legs I'm not fucking with it hey dogs i ain't fucking with it niggas been spazzing since i was born like that's been our word before who was collin this dictionary i know webster's dictionary i don't know collin collin is another dictionary he's not valid in the hood

but collin is telling you collin is telling you he's teaching you Colin is another dictionary. He's not valid in the hood. We only respect Webster. But Colin is telling you, Colin is telling you, he's teaching you. Hey, this word derives from this, and however long you've been using it, today it is offensive What my New York niggas say? I'm not jacking it. Spaz is our word. Hell no, I'm not. So now, that's no. Yeah, no.

That's no. No. The lyric in question say, hold my bag. Do you see this shit? I'm a spaz. Yes. And that's a problem? Yes.

They can spaz out. They come from spazing out. You got to use context clues. That don't mean she not here. Where the spazing out come from? Muscle spazing, I'm assuming. So you're agreeing with Colin, right? Ish?

I see where they're going. I don't agree with that shit, though. Man. I think that we too picky. Get Colin the fuck out of here. Pretty sure you're not going to start saying nothing. We can't say shit't agree with that shit, though. Man. Get Colin the fuck out of here. Pretty sure you're not going to start saying nothing. You can't say shit.

This is my shit. Lizzo is one of the most unproblematic artists out there, first off. She don't... She don't do shit to upset none of that. Except go out and twerk

in inappropriate places. But whatever. That's her body, her choice. That's problematic. But go ahead. You know what? What? Nigga, if I went to the Laker game and a thong on started shaking my ass, somebody would say something about it.

It's no different. For sure. But that's not what the topic is. Spaz. I've said that word a bunch. I had no idea that this is where it derived from. Me either. It did.

I certainly wasn't talking To any disabled people When I said it It's cause you're not familiar With the Collins Dictionary None of us When I said it That meant I was about to go crazy

Yeah We've been spazzing for forever They gonna say go crazy Is a problem now Cause crazy See what I'm saying Like the door That ain't nobody talking

Wow He's not here He's not there He's not here I'm bleeping that Wait Wow No no. I'm bleeping that. Wow. No, no, no. I'm bleeping that.

I'm not as brave or as politically incorrect as you. TSK not here. Hey, you. Be trying to buy no music anyway. That is crazy. Oh, shit. Rob ain't here. No.

Hey, Alex, write it down. What do y'all think about this Honestly We know what surf thinks Nah I don't think Nah this is too far It's too far Yeah I just think that

Pretty soon you're not Gonna be able to say nothing Like if you go listen to All the dope rap shit From the 90s 2000s The shit that they was Saying in those songs

Man Biggie said She was so She was so bad She'd suck her daddy dick They worry about spags It's other shit We could be pulling out in lyrics

that we could be talking about. It was very progressive for Biggie to say that. It's mad shit we could talk about if we want to pull out lyrics and start talking about what people meant and shit.

Biggie had a lot of lyrics about. When I was an old Richard Pryor joke, he just repeated it, first off. That's what I'm saying. It's just mad other shit. He did have some other jokes.

Yeah, it was some other shit Richard Pryor didn't say. Yeah, Richard Pryor didn't say that. Richard Pryor didn't know Jermaine at all. That's what I'm saying. It's just mad other shit. But he did have some mad jokes. Yeah, it was some other shit Richard Pryor didn't say. Yeah, Richard Pryor didn't say that. Richard Pryor didn't know Jermaine at all. Richard Pryor didn't know Darskin Jermaine. You know what I mean?

Wait, who else he did? Wait, wait, wait. Oh, no, Gutter. That's what I'm saying. You know what I mean? Gutter loved it. I ain't repeating it, but yeah, he did.

But why? He did. Don't you know my name? That's the G know my nigga Yeah, I don't know what it is Today, could you say Never In a lyric Never Something that your friend

Enjoys doing No, never It's not me No No, not if it was that Yo, don't you know my nigga Antoine kidnapped kids Fuck them in the ass

Throw them over the bridge That's how it is It ain't yeah nah no you can't say none of that nah no nigga you can't never say that

yo imagine putting out what's beef when lyrics are being brought up in court damn y'all got the gall all I make is one phone call all y'all disappear

by tomorrow Rico Rico for sure and I don't want to hear the fucking prosecutor read those lyrics at all that's all that's what I'm saying All y'all disappear by tomorrow Rico Rico For sure And I don't want to hear The fucking prosecutor Read those lyrics At all

That's all That's what I'm saying What's the joint He was talking about Killing the witnesses Duct taping the witnesses Yeah All of that

Yeah Yeah nah Who's the person That picks out the lyrics That should be Thought in the hell no Somebody with too much time On they hands

That's all it is And in a hot place though Because for it to hit Certain spots Come on let me let me jump in here if you're an artist you are a brand if you are a brand you are business if you are business typically it is your job to remain clean and far away from the third rail uh so you can be appealing to advertisers from big and small so anything that you say that is

offensive even if you don't really feel that way you got to clean it up because it ruins your chance at advertising. But what if you don't know it's offensive? So we understand why it is happening. That's the problem that we keep walking into. Well, whoever you're partnering with is going to get a phone call when there's public outcry. And they'll call you and say, hey, we need to do a re-release and redo the lyrics which she did which lizzo did so congratulations shout out to her awesome i don't rap anymore so i'm not going to use the word spaz but that word came up a lot in my raps that word has been around i feel like for 30 plus years you know what i'm saying like but as hip hop

but as hip hophop becomes becomes more inclusive right and we want do we want it to be more inclusive yeah right and because parks yeah that word has been around but so is the f-bomb true yes in hip-hop oh absolutely you know what i'm saying so it's like once you i don't think that's the same. I'm just saying, Joe. That word. Joe, there was a time where it was allowed to be said. Absolutely. Without any. Not that long ago. That's all I'm saying.

Not that long ago. And then what happens is people learn. You realize words are hurting people and how they're affecting people. And you correct that. And they go back and crucify people for old shit. So, like, if an artist was to come out today and say that yeah it's a problem you learn this word today is problematic she's doing the right thing by fixing it and then another you know somebody else might not put spaz in their lyrics

going forward because now we know this is on the list of shit you can't say yeah your verse might be trash if you don't say spaz Well say it Did you or did you not Spaz Are you spazzing or not Say it Sorry If you're advertising And branding it

Are you talking to me I would I would I would I would say I'm about to spaz Spaz You said McDonald's

Won't cancel you I don't think McDonald's Is canceling the line for spaz Alright Do Lizzo got a Happy Meal No but if she did I don't think McDonald's Is canceling the line for spas. All right. Do Lizzo got a Happy Meal? No, but if she did, I don't think McDonald's is taking it down because of spas. She's the one they should get. That's for real.

I said it. That Lizzo sauce is going to be different. You can't. All right, let's move on. Nah, Lizzo look like a fun time. In a fun time type of way nevermind this is something that

no no no but what's a fun time type of way like a good person to hang around you kill nah I don't know if I kill like you know what I mean you know what's great about

the young niggas they always entertain that question like it's the real serious thing yeah really start to think about it yeah I don't know I look

is she lifting that shit up in that it's fine sir't know. I look, is she lifting that shit up in that? It's fine, sir. It's fine. It is fine. Is she lifting that shit up? Nah, she's like, I had a good time.

Like, bowling. Game night uno. Jenga. Drunk twister. I don't know if I can get around Lizzo and Twister, but that'd be fun. Twister?

Lizzo? Come on. I'd say let's move on, buddy. He ain't getting me. He's thinking of all the scenarios. I'm toast. Shout out to Lizzo. Peace and love.

Leave it in the comments what you think. Getting right out of that one. Okay, now on the versus news. It's the versus cast. It's the versus cast. Yo, Joel Santana says that he wants Lloyd Banks in a Versus. Just give it to me. Just give it to me.

That's a good matchup. I need to hear your fucking thoughts. Give it to me. That's a good matchup. I think that Banks is obviously, well, I don't want to say obviously. I think he's a better rapper. You said it. You said it.

I already said it. Fuck it. I think today he's a better rapper, but Joel has a lot of joints. Like, that'll be a better rapper today. You said it. You said it. I already said it. Fuck it. I think today he's a better rapper, but Jwells has a lot of joints. Like, that's a big... Jwells was a lot of part of some good joints. Yeah. And he had solo joints. Jwells has verse...

Oh, no. I ain't even get to his solo joints yet. I'm just talking about the hits that he had verses on. Yeah. Like, he's got some crazy verses next to Wayne. Some crazy verses. Like, he's a part of damn near all dip sets. Like, dip sets.

Smokers. Smokers. And you got Banks. You ever go for a walk in the park because it's a beautiful day out but as soon as you get to the park you got to piss

so you got to find a bathroom or get out the park? Sure. Jewel's going to use the bathroom. You bugging. That was my next statement me My next statement was Banks was a part of G-Unit's heyday

I did True I did Ice Wait wait Both of y'all said that We both Ice and Ish

Yeah you bugging You disrespected Jewel's Nah he just had You not putting enough You not putting enough Them dips had niggas Had a lot of hits yo Before you even get into

The Jewel's and And Wayne bag Before you even get into Solo bag What Jewel bag, before you even get into solo bags. What Jewels and Wayne bag? All that mixtape shit that them niggas was doing. That's the tiny bag. That's the tiny bag. You put a sauerkauer in there.

You can use anything in the verses. In the verses, you play any of that. Yeah. We talking about logistics. Is this in New York or is it Miami? Sir, if you be quiet for two seconds, let them explain why they think I am wrong in what I'm saying about Juul.

I just think that... Y'all are arguing Juuls, and that's my man, man. I think the Dipset catalog is just too impactful. Too impactful to what? Hip-hop. You just watched what the Dipset catalog did against another impactful catalog. That was the point I was going to make. That was the point I was going to make.

That was the point I was going to make. Yes, I am. No, you're not. Is the execution of the catalog, that may be a problem because we've seen that. Do you know that Lloyd Banks was in G-Unit? I do. Man. You can't compare Lloyd Banks to The Lox, who had a 30-year run in hip-hop.

Give me a score. I'm just saying, this is a great matchup, in hip-hop. Give me a score. I'm just saying, this is a great match-up, and I have this being very close. I love it. That's why I say you got Banks fucked up. I think it comes down to the way they do delivery. The way this show is presented.

It literally comes... Lloyd Banks wins this by seven, yo. By seven songs? One more. What? I love Banks. That seven songs? One more. Out of your mind. You bugger. What? I love Banks. That's big bro.

I love Banks. I love Banks. That's the big homie. By seven? He separates us by seven songs? I said what I said. Juelz is my man. I say this as respectfully as I can say it.

I got Banks, and seven songs is crazy. Banks has too many records. That's a point. Too many records. That's a point. I don't know. You looking at me. But you know what?

I ran into this with Dipset versus The Lox too. When I said The Lox are going to run them out of town. And everybody in New York said that I was a lunatic. I even called drama right before the battle i'm documented that don't change here do you else know i have the records to go against fucking beamer bins or bentley he's on that record so who you think is playing it what are you talking about they're gonna do that who is playing they're gonna do that together if they do it that's gonna happen all right that's cool so put that to the side no answer my question who is gonna play that record Lloyd Banks is gonna

play that record and then Jules can use his he could come out in that same round talking about we've seen that in the verses oh my lord no we have not we've seen them end with the song they did together but one of them played it so follow what respond what I'm saying. I don't care if they perform together. Lloyd Banks did his song. Juelz came out and did the verse. That's the grand finale. But that's my song. It's a point.

Victory is a point. Start It Up is a point. A Few of Them Girl Records is a point. The G-Unit Records, some of them, it's a point. You know what I give Juelz guaranteed points? What? Dipsay Anthem, of course. Hey Ma.

Hey Ma. Yeah, right. I don't see how you can say that. Go back down. Running with Chris Brown. Go back down, Alex. Yeah, right. You said running with Chris Brown.

Is he a right too? Punk music? No, I said Hey Ma. Hey Ma is not a guaranteed point and no verses. Go up, Alex. And no verses. All right. Stop.

What? I know that's y'all shit. It's not a guaranteed point and no versus. Go up, Alex. And no versus. All right. Stop. What? I know that's y'all shit. It's not a guaranteed point and no versus. What? Where Lloyd Banks at? The whistle song. Point. Where?

All right. Where? This nigga is crazy. Where is the whistle song a point? Yo, stop, yo. Start it up. Ain't no guaranteed point, Joe. Okay.

I think it is. I think it is. Can I? Yeah. I'm cool. Okay, I think it is. I think it is. Can I? Yeah. I'm cool. Yo, I don't argue that. If they running it in New York,

he is talking crazy right now. Yeah, if they play this in New York, he's... If they running it, if they... If he's playing versus Joel in New York, you're fucking... You bugging.

They both from New York. Santanatown a point? No. You really showing your age right now talking about Hey Ma and Santana Town. No, he's not. No, he's not.

He's not showing his age. Nigga, I'm older than him. You know what? You're absolutely right. You are. How do Hey Ma not go up in New York? How do Banks' catalog

go up in New York but Joel's catalog not go up in New York? And I got Banks winning. This 12-8 for me. Seven songs? Then I'm wrong on the score.

Banks is winning this. I would love to see this happen. I'm there if this happens. You're getting me excited. Set this up. And Juelz, I say this as respectfully as I can. I know what you did. I know what you do.

Banks is different. And I'm going to keep it a buck. I don't like what Juelz said in the beginning. Bleak it a buck. I don't like what Juel said in the beginning. Bleak is too easy. I don't like that. Bleak ain't no walk in the park, bro. I got Bleak beating Juel too,

by the way. Bleak is not a walk in the park, y'all. I have Bleak beating Juel too or coming closer. You got Bleak with 20? Yeah. Yeah, but Bleak definitely has it.

Bleak 100% he got 20 yes no no no 20 good ones not 20 I don't like that I'm just scraping for

I don't like that I don't like that I don't like that I don't like that statement he gonna pay for it fam Bleak got 20 don't worry about it he gonna pay for it

Bleak got a 20 that you would have to really like he'll remind you oh shit he will I do think that Banks is way more calculated and strategic than you. Banks will make it make sense.

That's why I got Banks winning. I do. But the number's crazy. Yeah. He said, like, your first three, four, his top joints ain't points. He said Santana's telling all the points. He said five of them. I just left it alone.

Five of them wasn't points. And these are, like, the ones we all actually waiting for while we're there. We're actually waiting for you. Let me ask you something. This is just off the top of my head. Hey Ma comes on. That's y'all shit. Banks come on with that.

I don't know that. I am the one you need. Karma. I do pick Hey Ma in that. Do y'all think the masses do? I don't. Yes. In New York City?

I don't. I don't. I don't. I do not think don't I don't I don't I do not think The masses pick Hey Ma over Karma I think that's Y'all New York bias

I don't have New York bias Well let's move on There's more versus Cat stuff to beef about Okay let's get it There's rumors of A Mario A Mario on Mario

Mario Find the nearest bathroom buddy Now I'm rolling with you Find the nearest Joe be right yo I don't care whether you're rolling or not. Mario, don't do that, yo. Don't do that to yourself.

Mario, you my mans, yo. I hate when I got told by my mans on this pod. Mario, you my guy. Just leave. Leave all alone. And other niggas don't want no smoke. I like maybe Mario versus Lloyd, maybe. Okay.

A Mario should be regarded differently than he is. Same with Banks. A Mario is not the one for you R&B niggas to tap on the shoulder because he's going to learn you something on a nice 80 degree day.

Amarion. Whatever his name is. Nah, Amarion got too much shit. These are too many records. You got to leave him alone. Oh, Touch, I'm trying to honorize Iceman. I'm trying to act like

a solo girl. That's just a solo shit. He got some shit. Oh, no, you better, yes. Oh, Post to be a studio, yes. Come on, you're Post. We didn't even get to MIA yet. Man, leave him alone.

Rest in peace, Biz Markie. I got a Mario on beating Mario by 10. I might have more than that. Yeah. I'm not even trying to be funny. No disrespect. Off the top Like as a music head Off the top

You gonna give I'm giving Mario How do I breathe And Just a Friend Those are the two songs That I can think of He might lose Sorry buddy

Just a friend yes I'm gonna give you Break up Depending on what It goes up against Break up Depending on what It's up against though

Let me love you Yes Somebody else Yes Let me love you That's where this. Let me love you. Yes. Somebody else. Yes. Let me love you is a point. That's where this ends. Let me love you is a point all day. His score is there.

That's his ace. He might lose. He might get four points. Big joker. Let me love you wins against anything that Amarion is going to play. For sure. Anything. How do I breathe is a monster.

That's a point for me. I think that how do I breathe depends on what it matches up with, but it has a high chance of winning. But How Do I Breathe is a good record. Just be talking. Shut up. Bam. How Do I Breathe?

This shit ain't close. This is Mario. That's an amazing song. You out your mind. I've been. I know. I've been. You be disrespecting some shit, Joe.

I don't know how niggas be liking you. They don't. They don't be liking me. Yeah, liking you this was a joy this comes on everybody mother notice it's a joy right that's right in between two different What am I the only nigga in the world with the how do I breathe instrumental? What is going, what is happening right now? I said, how do he DJ?

It should sound like a TV track. In my mind, I'm like, he's a great DJ. You got the instrumental. Somebody hire him. You should be on a crew. You just want to put some bars on this? You should be DJing on the cruise.

Guess what? It don't matter cruise Guess what it don't matter Yeah It don't matter I ain't gonna lie Take that shit to East Orange Whatever the fuck you talking about I just told him anything It's a fight

Sorry yo Fuck her on It's not a fight It's not a fight It's not a fight This is an ass whooping Mario will learn the hard way Jewel Santana He will learn the hard way. Jewel Santana, he will learn the hard way.

I will give you this with the Jewels one. Because that was the main thing about that Dipset-Lox versus. It was the performance and the fact that there was no chemistry amongst Dipset like that. Facts. So depending on how Jewels performs these records, that's going to be the deciding factor. We forgetting that the sound system for Dipset sounded like trash. That's true.

But that's because they were rapping over their own beats. Let me finish. I mean, their song. And then Jadakiss went up there and put on a masterclass in performance.

We're not going to act like the Dipset songs when you play them don't hit. But look. I've seen girls lose all they prissy cool when them Dipset Songs come on that was outside That's part of the performance

Because they were rapping over The actual track That's why it sounds like shit though I'm talking about song for song Song for song Yeah but again performance It matters that's why Dipset shit didn't hit The way they should have hit

Them Dipset niggas that's not even into hip That's why Dipset just didn't hit the way they should have hit. Them Dipset niggas, niggas that's not even into hip-hop, know them Dipset nigga songs. And them songs did not hit. Why? I'm talking about the songs. I'm not talking about the locks battle. I'm talking about the actual song. Fuck the performance.

We agreeing on that. Yeah, it's Dipset singles you can play at white collar parties. I'm with you. At white collar parties, for sure. I'm trying to tell you that it's not us listening to it in our headphones. We're going to hear it the way it's presented at the verses. True. That's going to dictate how a record hits. Who's to say that Lloyd Banks set going to be-

I'm not going to lie. I got karma over. Hey, ma. What the fuck? The song is just- What the fuck is this? It's the hook, though. It's the hook.

It's the hook. I don't get it, but it's fine. I might got carbo over here, man. That hook was crazy. Santana Town, not a point,

so I'm cool. Yeah, I was done with him with that. Now you said like five things and a point. Yeah. I'm straight. If that's not a point,

you owe us a point. It's because I can't talk music with you niggas with fan ears. That's the problem. No, that's not the problem. That's why this nigga loses because you gonna get

in your technical bag and the average fan has fan ears yo I'm 99% on my versus predictions 99? I'm 99% on my versus predictions

I got Preem wrong I got uh I got Preem wrong there's one more that I got wrong that I don't remember right now I've got two wrong to my knowledge all right 95 okay so still got that being a close versus yeah like it's not

fans are the niggas that's going to be in the versus and again stop disrespecting bleep that i was about to say that was a bad that Bleak. That was a bad tweet right there. That was a bad tweet. That's a bad tweet right there. Don't do that. That shit got non-retweets. That's his real Twitter, right? That ain't circulating in the world well.

Not yet. Bro, that was an hour ago. If the right person... That was a bad tweet. That's what that mean. What do you mean? That could have been up for 10 minutes. But you know what, though? That's not just you-els, yo.

Hip-hop as a whole does not respect bleak enough. They don't. That's 100%. I've said that a bunch. I don't know why it is, but I don't want to sound like the old nigga trying to tell the young niggas about why they should appreciate it. It's very easy. It's very easy. It's very easy.

It cannot be two Batmans. When Holtz said he could be one hit away his whole career, people kind of just held that as a little bro. That's the good point. That's what it was. We don't talk about that enough. We don't talk about the bad that comes with a big cosign sometimes. That's a lot of pressure.

Running next to Batman. Because it can't be two batmans you automatically put yourself in that like if this is jay-z robin save batman acid then the one of the movies and the cartoon he helps the movie but he's not batman and you can't be batman if like you know how much shadow being next to lebron is no matter how great you score and all microphones are going to be at lebron at the end of the game you walking straight to the locker room. That's just the way.

So the same way LeBron can walk in any gym in the world and feel good with whatever is in his toolbox. I think Bleak can walk in any hip hop conversation with his catalog

and be respected. Not with the way this generation is right now. They don't even know. Then they need to go listen to his catalog. For sure do. As the little man.

Like you, you, you little, you man, man. You get what I'm saying you, you, you, you, man, man. You get what I'm saying? Like, you, you, you, little man. I just think this coach is a disrespectful, like, this time that we in, like, right now is disrespectful.

That's back to my inside, outside thing. We won't get back on that. But the same way you had to deal with Allen Iverson in 2001 if you happened to be in Miami and he was there. Yo, Bleak was in Miami too in 01. Bleak. I was out there, yo. I had just got a deal.

You ain't have to go to Miami. I had a new stock beginner's chain that I was wearing that a few of the JV thotties liked. Oh, thanks. But then you walk in the club with niggas that are headlining for the night in the club.

Like, the niggas that got a big bag that just show up. And that was Bleak at that time. That was Bleak. And you walked in there in a sea of women and watched him do Do My Ladies,

Is That Your Chick? Sure. He started going crazy. And then you look and say, Oh. That was his down... There's not enough respect. Oh, it's different.

He got one of them sneaky sets like Wiz, like Fat Joe. Not enough is said about the sneaky set fuck you little young niggas if y'all don't know it i think it's mostly because he stopped being active musically just being outward outwardly active right well not true he was starting he was signing people no no i'm talking about as a as an artist yeah right oh bleak response yeah but i want it oh i want to see what he said I wish I want Bleak to come out

For smoke against these niggas Somebody What did he say He might really hurt Jewel Like on an OG tip He might hurt Jewel All that coming of age shit That's like

Edston Stone And hip hop forever Jewel can't play nothing Against coming of age That's like When you think about He can play New York's anthem He can play what

He can play Dipset Anthem Is his greatest record and one of New York's greatest records. Coming of age. This is about coming of age, though. That is... Boy.

I don't have... Either one. I don't have coming of age beating... Dipset Anthem. I don't. I don't either. No. And y'all are right.

Performance is a large part of versus. It is. I know that Banks has been locked in a house in the fucking breathalyzer lungs room like Mariah got in her house, like that protects your lungs. He's fine. I tell you,

he can get out there and say 90 words per bar like he never missed a beat. He's in great shape. He's in great health. He's in great health. I'm telling you that. 2019, Banks had the 15-year anniversary for Hunger for More. Sony Hall. I was at that show.

And he went through the whole album plus his hits afterwards. Must have been an hour, hour and a half set. Good set? Smoked it. It looked like O3 Banks. Hour and a half set is grown. It looked like O3 Banks. How when a half set is grown? It looked like O3 Banks.

So to me the performance part is they both got the records. They both got a mean 20 that stack up well against each other. That was a little ignorant of Juelz to say that about Bleak. I'm mad about that. Let me just say, my last two times seeing Juelz's performance,

I don't know how that stacks up against that Banks. Yes, you do, but you won't say it because it don't support your argument. You do know how it stands against Banks. It's hard to stand against Banks. I'm going to say that. They got the records, but the performance is what's going to change that. All right, so rolling rolling loud We got rolling loud Right

We got a Rolling loud Attendee here Sitting on the couch Yeah Performer Surf bum ass Is on rolling loud

That's right You on rolling loud Okay Wow Thursday right Bitch I think you on Wednesday night.

I'm on rolling the Lil' Louds. Wait, wait, wait. Oh, wait, they put surf on there because it's Lil' Rolling Loud Bar. No, I actually got music. Actually. Fuck you talking about. I got shit joints. I got shit joints with Joe Bud and G-Kiss.

You better check my streams, bitch. I got actual fan base and music. What time you going on? Noom? I don't know. Look. Let me see. All right, what's going on?

You at Rolling Loud before or that wasn't in your time? I would not go to Rolling Loud because it's the feds. I didn't ask you what it was. Was it at your time or no? I don't give a fuck who it is. No, they just came out in 2017. It wasn't at your time. Dinosaur Age shit.

Something like that. Okay. I got it on my resume. Yo, congratulations. I appreciate that. Thank you. Fuck him We'll come check you out

You stay the fuck home It's in Queens I'm going Fuck you You're gonna get arrested too I'll be outside I'm not gonna be You know what I mean

Park's gonna fold I'm not gonna be in the back Who you came to Did you come with surf Alright let's see Friday we got Nicki Minaj Uzi Vert

Lil T.J DaBaby Moneybagg Yo Fabio Sleepy Hollow Chief Keef Young Lean Rowdy Rebeldy Rebel, Bia, G Herbo, Nardo Wick, Westside Gun, City Morgue, Danny Brown, Skill Bang, I don't know. I'm reading the niggas I know. ASAP Rocky, Lil Baby, A Boogie, Don Tolliver, Busta Rhymes, Lil Tecca, Kevin Gates, Shaq West, Key Glock, Johnny Lucas, Soulja Boy, Conway the Machine, Shin Chia.

I hate all these shits. I ain't going to hold you. And Sunday, we have Future, 21 Savage, Big Sean, Pusha T, Ski Master, Slump God, St. John, Fat Joe, Oliver Tree, Day's Loaf. Love Day's Loaf. Joe, Oliver Tree, Dave Loaf. Love Dave Loaf. Benny the Butcher,

2C, Bodie James, and Alchemist, King Comb, Soussurf, Doughboy. Doughboy, I don't see. Currency. Sunday.

Doughboy, Currency, I see, I see. Okay, okay, okay. Ishman Simba's up there that we played the last couple sleepers from. It's a nice lineup. Ish, you made some fun?

Oh, please. That's a nice lineup. It is a nice lineup up it's three nice nights of line ups I mean yeah it was three great nights my beef with the festivals

are things that have less to do with the music and the performers there I get it so I want to shut up y'all can tell me what y'all think about this shout out to all the artists here

shout out to Surf for being on here as well but I think they're not paying most of these niggas what they should be paid. Of course I do. And I think a lot of niggas are going to get arrested. Again. So don't bring the...

I say that as someone that's gotten arrested at a show. Like, this broke... So I shouldn't bring in the gang? I shouldn't bring the guys? In an honest opinion? Sir, at this point, all I do is say to your mom, yo, I know. You can do what you want.

When your mom call me, I'm going to say, no, I said that. I'm asking you an honest question, bro. Why you bringing up my mother? That don't fly off podcast. Because you're going to get good, bro. That's not good. That's only acceptable on air.

Why you bringing up my mother? I said, is it cool to bring the guys to Rolling Loud? Are you supposed to give me a big broad opinion? I would bring the guys that you could bring

to these things. Okay. Not them guys that y'all was on tape in Atlanta doing that. Because it's going to be a lot of guys. Don't bring them.

See, but this is what I don't understand. You can just say no! To doing the show? Yeah, but you can't, right? I'm not missing his exposure. And actually, they pay me very, like, in the world, they pay me very well. I mean, to the statement that you made. So I got a nice check for this to be where

I'm at, and I ain't never had, there's a lot of exposure for me, so I think a lot of people's not turning down rolling out. But you're different. You Joe Butter. Don't go up there with guns. Nah, no guns. Hell no. Who's taking guns to fucking rolling out?

I don't even own guns. No, no, no, no, no. No, they're taking them. You said who's taking guns to rolling out? Niggas scared of New York a lot. Yeah, security. Scared of New York. Hey, yo.

Y'all niggas got nice guns I be seeing on the news yeah hey they put them little pretty guns across the table I be like oh shit Scott Scott Blue Clip

damn that was that nigga see through clip yeah Scott Blue Clip them niggas them niggas guns is pretty nowadays I swear to God

I seen some shit I really had on on Call of Duty on I said that boy got an MP5 with a G16 2.5 scope. Them guns be so pretty,

I side with the police sometimes. Like, thank God he got that one out of the Bronx. What he was going to do with that shit in the Bronx? No gear in the Bronx? No Buffalo? Yeah, no, sorry, boss.

What the fuck is that? Yeah, nah, they be taking some shit. That need to be off the streets. You niggas be having a joint. Niggas had a bazooka. They couldn't put this shit on the table. It was living on a chair. They was just...

Shit had a fucking bazooka. I said, how the fuck did that get in Jersey? Oh, man, yo. You sitting at a light in a Missoula bot is... Excuse me? If you sitting at a light in a fucking Missoula patch, your car... See, that's the other side that's my second thought

when I go somewhere I go places I be like yo I don't see enough black people here and then my next thought is what if a missile just flew

how do you how do you what the same way they do it no guns are rolling loud man bring security real security I'm just gonna to get security.

That's all. That's smart. That's mature. It is. That's mature. It's mature. Because as an artist, you really be wanting to... Don't get the security that run away when it go down.

Yeah, it's some trash security. You got to get you some good security. Be careful now. As an artist, the average artist coming up, though, it's not like you want the homies to be security, but you would rather feel comfortable. Like, all right, cool, it's me and my niggas. And you put money in your people pocket.

Come on. And you just feel comfortable walking around with your niggas. And the fucked up part is, right, is like 15 homies is equivalent to you by yourself and two, three security guards. You know what I mean? In a weird type. You know what I mean? So it's like, you having 12, 13 homies,

it's like, am I going to do the security thing or am I going to bring the homies? I just love... Yeah, I see what you're saying. Thanks, Parks. I don't know nothing about this homie shit

you're talking about. It's hard to not... It's hard to not... You know what I mean? 15 homies is equal to three security? In a sense, like in a weird type of explanation way of like...

When you have professional trained security that can legally possess whatever they need to legally possess. You don't need a lot of them. I feel justice. You don't need a lot of them. I feel justice. Right.

That's what I'm saying. If I got three security guards and I'm by myself, I feel justice comfortable if I'm with 10, 12 of my homies. But listen, do you see a lineup like this, right? And maybe see somebody else on the lineup that... No, this don't even look like a messy lineup. This don't look like... messy lineup this don't look like

no it don't look like to us or the police yeah I was gonna say I can see mess I guarantee you somebody get arrested I guarantee you that

and that's not me it's a safe bet yeah it's a safe bet listen I've seen enough I'm not oh and speaking of 22 G's has just been arrested right

and he's on the Sunday yes lineup he may be released arrested right and he's on the Sunday yes lineup he may be released before this he's already he's already he's back in the

creeps so the fair's gonna be there for sure yeah but wait time out if he gets released you think he still comes to do this show with all that extra heat

if he on bail in this New York when did performing become like might do it might have to do it I need the bag whatever I'm getting paid for that

when did this become so like creepy yo I can't remember the last major festival that happened and some type of arrest or some type of bullshit

didn't happen when did when did writing lyrics become a Matlock episode that part when niggas start telling on their side we know I'm just saying performing is the same shit it's become a Matlock episode. That part. When niggas start telling on their side. No, we know.

I'm just saying, performing is the same shit. It's the same shit. They didn't tell us how they got that Roddy Ricch car. They didn't tell us why they pulled him over either. They said checkpoint.

They said checkpoint. They said checkpoint. I think he had security, like hired security and they saw whatever they saw in the car and then told... They saw a gun in the car and then told yeah

what the fuck excuse me see what I see what I read said checkpoint yeah I saw a checkpoint but even that sounded like bullshit

y'all at a festival y'all don't even have the time to check all this shit I went to summer jam and my African driver got me everywhere I needed to go just cause y'all don't even have the time to check all this shit I went to Summer Jam and my African driver got me everywhere I needed to go

just cause y'all don't even have the time to check some of this shit I'm saying yo you an artist yeah alright go ahead y'all ain't got time to vet shit out

I don't wanna see tell me what 22 G's was arrested for hold on Joe that's the problem now though because there's been instances where they haven't vetted shit out and shit pops off inside the venue.

Oh, nah, not just that. You was dolo. So now they really trying to crack down on not, we got to stop it before it gets in here. Yeah. Were you dolo when you went to Summertown? Yeah. So you, I'm just saying, so two dudes. All right, go ahead.

When it's 17 little motherfuckers in the car with seven ounces of weed burning at one time, it's a different ballgame. Hey, what if I knew how to make a sneaker bomb? Then what? You would have ticked in there. I'm just saying, but it's way less inconspicuous than seven, eight jokers in the suburb. A Brooklyn-based drill rapper was arrested after landing at JFK Airport Sunday morning and later charged

with attempted murder in connection to a March shooting. Rapper 22G's, whose real name is, I'm not saying, faces charges from a March 6th early morning shooting inside a Marine Park

Brooklyn party hall where a 31-year-old man suffered a gunshot wound to his left foot. The victim had provided a description of the suspect before he was transported to brookdale university hospital for treatment he better not have died he didn't he's just a little pal pal get away from me pal that's below the waist bro why they trying to charge my son with attempted murder he shot that man in his foot if he shot

him allegedly i mean there's one way to look at it. That's not true. Allegedly. That don't mean nothing. From what I thought, below the waist is not like a... If you let off, ain't no guarantee you knew where you was going to hit him at. Shout out to police listening. I mean,

hey, I don't know the nigga. I don't know the nigga. You used to be in the side, man. I don't know the nigga. I don't know the nigga. You used to be in the side. I'm with you.

Right with the Oculus. I was outside, but once they started doing like this shit i left i was out there but once i overheard some of their plans in the bathroom i went i went home i got a home nigga and they got hey oh shit the street lights on it looks like my kill oh i'm joking around but i shouldn't joke about this the 24 year old rapper was also charged with second degree assault two counts of second degree criminal possession of a weapon and first degree reckless endangerment

and while we're on this subject or off of this subject what I've learned over the weekend and I probably knew this already Joseph Anthony Budden Jr. me I am not built to watch murder

on video on my phone I ain't yo that little clip that went around and niggas in the pharmacy on video on my phone. I ain't, yo. Nah, it should be a little disturbing. I ain't. I don't watch it. That little clip that went around and niggas in the pharmacy. Did y'all see it?

Yes. If you didn't see it, you probably don't want to see it. From New York? In New York. They did, that was ridiculous. That was crazy. West Coast rapper.

The West Coast drill rapper, something like that, the young kid, right? That was stupid. I want to get his name right. Man. That was really really really dumb or maybe I'm not street

so I don't understand if you they wanted his chain he didn't give his chain up so they butchered him they slaughtered him like stood over top and let me not even

stood over top him like he was a op and let me not say they cause it was one person see and that's the other part where that stuff gets confusing you go out and do some shit with a group and then one nigga do something that nobody planned on him doing right but now it's us and now it's yeah now we gotta wear that now we call defendants yeah

i sympathized with that that young man that was on the ground running for his life and my thing was and this is maybe where i'm old school y'all beat him up already you won he's on the floor y'all jumped him kicked him nigga grabbed the umbrella did everything he had to do with the umbrella there was no need to kill anybody but i say that it's someone that's not a killer ain't trying to be one ain't trying to think in the mind of one but that was a lot come in nigga come on come on y'all, come on, y'all family. Come on inside. The main over here, Mike. This is Mike.

Hey. Let's go, D. Okay, now listen. Podcast, I love a mess. This is great, this is great. Nah, I love a good mess, yo. Listen, yo, we're moving. We're moving.

We've been in Queens for seven years. We're moving to Jersey to accommodate niggas like, not even niggas like y'all, but niggas that come with like 40 and 50 niggas. We want to accommodate. The check got real big for the next month. We're going to accommodate

40, 50 niggas that sound like a comp. I mean, we just want to make people comfortable, Jim. Comfort. So now, this is probably the last time

that we cramped in here like sardines, but I'm honored here. We have Jim, who's been here before. He knows it's tight in here, friend of the show. And we have Mano, who I'm just such a friend with that I thought he was here before, and he never was. I've been to his shit. Both places.

So I'm honored. Before you gentlemen say anything, I have to play music from you guys that I love. gentlemen say anything i have to play music from you guys that i love yeah they told me i couldn't show love to your project because it's new york bias that's hate that's hate jim yeah i'm getting back to this you're it seemed like for me you've taken a stance in opening verses hard. It seemed like that's a conscious decision from you. This came on and I was like, oh, shit. He bugging out at the top of the verse. Now the baby's going to enjoy it when he can.

Is that a conscious decision to open verses with just some flagrant shit and then go? Or is it just happening? Yeah, it's definitely conscious. I mean, you know, bringing it to my attention,

Fred the Godson used to bring that to my attention. Rest in peace. I need that mic close to me. He used to call me Ricky Henderson. You got to lead off,

capo. You already know. You got to lead off. And that's, I mean, sure, but Cam always said, bro,

ain't no time for tucking no rhymes. Fit your hardest, and then you always going to be able to make a... You dig? You got to do it again. You dig? Don't tuck nothing. Always put your best rhyme first.

Don't try to go as hard as you can off top. It's like niggas that hold the big joker to the end of their hand. Just play it. Yes. All right. Let me get into a little bit of this. Park's going to get A by his situation. These niggas came with niggas with muscles.

Just like you would expect. Fuck these niggas talking about what happened in the verses. We be back to back in the world's trucks. They look like herses. Fresh off that summer jam stage. I got a chicken and a snack box. I'm drunk in the front while I be dipping through the back box. Them skeletons in my closet is the watches I got

Shit, I could've bought a house with this watch that I got You catch us running up in all the populous spots, bitch If it's up, then it's up, we start popping them shots Got a couple shooters, they gon' drill for me They old copper one, they gon' kill for free I still bangin' B as the G-L-T But none of you motherfuckers is ill as me Call the mill in the V

That's at least 500, what I'm willing to be DJ so bad, y'all Call the mill in the V That's at least 500 what I'm willing to be I forgot about the chain, I said mill in the V And this bitch lost her mind, she start feeling the G It's the lobby boys for me Yeah Can't play with it though Lobby I'll say this respectfully.

I don't know when y'all did this song, but by this point in the album, it sounds like you got tired of him opening verses that way. This actually was the first song. For real? It's the first song. It's the Lobby Boys. It's the first song we did.

Oh, so that was that. That was the first song. This first song, Energy. Can't play with it though. I was like, oh, this how we coming. This how we coming. Cool, this that was that. That was the first song. This first song, Energy. Can't play with it, though. I was like, oh, this how we coming. This how we coming. Cool, this what we doing. Uh-oh.

As soon as the city lit, we light up the city, bitch. Full time as the Lamborghinis, we hop out the silly shit. I brought out a pretty bitch. I brought out a pretty bitch. I'm standing on top of phantoms. I'm all on my ditty shit. My wax cover my charms. Tattoos cover my scars. I look up in the sky, hope we got a lot of rappers in the room

I hear it's getting hard, they coming with rapid terror And my niggas, they getting charged, pretty bars, it's kinda cold My heart is made of stone, I wake up in penthouses Them strippers just took my soul, my women is on a pole My homies is on parole, I slap box the devil at night We blow for blow Okay Jim before you got here

I was talking to Maino Yeah About street niggas with Stalus Yeah Your niggas been looking good We look the fuck good Your niggas been coordinating Yeah

This leather shorts Leather vest Look at my guy. Look at this. You know I changed. All right, let me ask you. You know I changed. Get to him, Ice.

No, because we bought this. Get right to him. Yeah, talk to him. I saw a lot of leather at Summer Gym. No, no, and before. And before. I feel like that's Jim's idea. A lot of leather made by Prada.

Yeah. It's a big difference when you talk about leather, a leather that was made by Prada but listen though listen to Ice all supergroups wear black leather bro we're a supergroup

it's a black leather thing and don't forget the black leather that's right we can't all supergroups for real it's a supergroup

wear black leather you can't be a supergroup if you're not wearing black leather maybe that's what Slaughterhouse fucked up at they ain't had no leather they ain't had at. Y'all ain't had no leather. Y'all ain't had no leather.

Had no leather. Well, no, Joe had the leather vest. That's true. That's true. He tried, you know what I mean? You gotta have leather, man.

Tell me how, tell me how, let me get the journalist shit out of the way. Tell me how you guys decided to form a group. This super group you speak of.

Yeah, give me that. Define super group. Whose idea was that? Listen, we talked about this so many years ago. Capo came up with the Lobby Boys. I'm going to be honest because this is back when Rose and Puff were saying that they was the Bugatti Boys. So I sent them a song one day. I said, yo, jump on that for me.

Sent it back to me. He said, shout out to the Bugatti Boys. But me and Mano, we the Lobby Boys. And I sent him a song one day I say you'll jump on that for me sent it back to me said shout out to the Bugatti boys but me and Mano we the lobby boys and I understood him we come from that content we come from that that that that that that pain that that you know that we have that in common you know that lost and them tenant been buildings those ghettos it didn't matter that I was from Brooklyn and he was from Harlem because it's the same thing it don't matter the ghetto has those things in common where we congregate as young black men and Hispanic men. We're the same struggles.

Up against the same adversity. So when he said that, I got it. And we talked about doing Lobby Boys Project back then, way back then. But I'm telling you right now, it wouldn't have been the same. We in a way better place. Yeah. Okay. I respect that. So y'all get together. Y'all say, I'm going to do a group

and we're going to make some music. Super group. My bad. Respectfully. So y'all get together and say, we're going to do a super group. At this point, is it we go in and make the music or off namesake, we'll get the deal? No, no, no. We're going to do a super group. At this point, is it we go in and make the music or off namesake,

we'll get the deal? No, no, no. We're going to make the music. See, the first thing we said was we were going to make 10 records in 10 days. 10 days be, and it was done.

We had more than 10 in 10, though. But by the fourth record, I kind of pulled Mane to the side. This shit sounding way iller than I thought it was gonna sound you got something keeping it a buck like you did like this shit is sounding like we really might have something let's just dig in so from the 10 days concept to putting it out last summer and once or not let's really let's do some shit and it went from just staying in the studio all through the summer and all through the winter.

And getting some of the illest verses and beats and produce. It just was so organic. And the best thing about this shit was that we called the studio The Lobby. We named it The Lobby. And everybody that's on this album had to come to The Lobby to do their music. There wasn't no MP3s. There wasn't no Zooms. Everybody came.

That's what's missing a lot. Everybody came for action. You heard? And everybody was fully equipped. Nobody was slacking. Nobody needed no extra time. Nobody took it. It was a great, organic, lit album.

See now, because a lot of people don't know. I don't think I've been in the studio with Mame when he did a verse, but I've been in the studio with Jim. You record pretty quick. That can be pressure for the other rapper in the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah.

For the guy that is going, in 15 minutes, I'm in the booth with this. Right. But me and Jim was already having a process that already was feeling good already a lot of times i was i was doing the records early before he got there because i wanted to i wanted to have i wanted him to have like different options to choose from like here i got like i got three four records jim tell me which one you think you feeling. Let's try this one. Let's try to, I would like try to have like hooks done. I would try to have the idea of the record already done.

So by the time he come down, he like, okay. But man is quick. Man is quick. Like we could go in, a record would get done in less than an hour. Yeah. You heard? And that's pretty good. I'm just talking about it could get done in less than a half an hour.

But you dig? Like we've done records in 20 minutes. We've done records. But it could get done less than a half an hour. But you dig? Like, we've done records in 20 minutes. We've done records. But on average, we're doing a record an hour. So we do three, four records a night when we're in the studio. So somebody like me hears your project and says, damn, they snatched every hot beat. Like, you niggas ears for beats is understated. But y'all snatched every hot one that you niggas ears for beats is understated but y'all snatched

every hot one that we would go after so it's like how do you do that how can somebody go grab the uh down bottom beat

it felt to me like an evolution of mixtape well you know what I'm saying but it's business it was an album so something had to get clear all that got clear

all that got clear everything got clear that's why we we purposely said Dana took the time to make sure all of these records get clear. All that got clear. All that got clear. All that got clear. Everything got clear. That's why we purposely said, Dan, it took the time to make sure all of these records get clear properly so we could put out the album that we wanted to put out and not a second rate version of our first, you know what I mean? Can you tell us how you were able to do that? So look, the sound that you're hearing is a sound that I feel like that nobody really

was really doing right if you really really listen to what it is is that we didn't just sample it and just play over like we sampled a lot of the horns and put it under modern drums when you hear down bottom it's under modern trap drums and bass line yeah so what the plan was was to to to kind of bridge the gap between classic and in fresh right now what's going on right now so that way we had the best of both worlds like it's young at the same time but there's somebody that's 30 plus it's like yo this that other joint like so you kind of get both that's how like you hear

that what the records were like five you'll find it like that yeah it's not like it don't take you away from that nostalgia of what you're hearing with the sounds. Exactly, yes. But bring Fabio, he right now. You hear that clear. And it's still got that sound, that current.

Because the drums, we was modern, we was taking those beats and I would tell my producers, like, listen, modernize the drums. If we modernize the drums and the bass line,

they gonna, because that's what they understand, right? The horns or the piano is something that they might know, but the 20-year-old is not going to know the sound, but he's going to respond to the drums and the bass line. Man. You're getting both generations. Here you go.

You're getting both generations. Yes. Because the younger ones, that's what they hear. Exactly. They don't know what down bottom meant to us. The more interesting part for me, though, is because y'all still like three og like east coast you know i mean it's like how y'all didn't change like i'm we talking about the sound i'm talking about y'all sound y'all don't change y'all sound to feel like y'all still rap right right still which is very that's so same pace same age same

pace same energy i mean and it's still high level rapping though right Once y'all did it I was like It doesn't make sense A lot of sense Like I told y'all before If you went back Jim Your album We Set The Trends It was a little bit of that

On there And it was like Yo he was able to Step onto A drill sound But keep up And sound modern Still be Jim

Yeah still be Jim Like it don't sound like I'm trying to be somebody else That's the key Yeah a lot of people Can't keep up A lot of OG's Can't keep up

It's a handful They not that good though Fuck no Hell no It's a medium You gotta come to You dig You gotta know how to

Me in the middle Still reinvent yourself And be in the middle Yeah we not chasing But we also not gonna be Stuck in the past You dig I'm not gonna be

I'm not trying to get caught Out there like Special Ed and Daddy Kane and all. I'm trying to keep it pushing and no disrespect to nobody, but you know what I'm trying to say? I'm trying to keep it moving forward. I'm trying to reinvent myself every time I come to the drawing board. I don't want to be...

You know what I'm saying. Can I say something real quick though? I just want to throw this out there because it's somebody sitting on the couch just not saying something? I just want to throw this out there because it's somebody sitting on the couch just not saying something. And I just want to put this out there. I asked Joe Button on numerous occasions to pull up to the lobby to be on the Lobby Boys album. You got scared? Yes.

Nah, it's true. I said, yo, come on. Let's go. Oh my God. I want to come to the studio and get that energy. The problem is they had that energy.

They had that energy in there. I'm home on my little expensive couch in my robe. I'm turning my phone. These niggas is in there. These niggas turning up. I'm turning my phone. These niggas is in there. These niggas turning up. I'm like,

yo, that shit sound hard. Nah, we were having fun. I'm a champion. Can't wait to buy it. Yeah. We really was having fun. Nah, but that's how I knew that y'all had some shit.

Because niggas was coming to the studio to hear. Like way before it was time. And that's tough to do. Y'all think that that adds, right? Like when the nigga really be there. That does.

It's competitive. It does. We all from the bottom like, oh, that nigga said, oh, hold up. Give me a minute. Let me go. It does. Yo, look, let me tell you. That shit felt like we was in the playoffs every night.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Because everybody got to show up to the game. When Benny was in there, when Benny came, right? Which y'all did. So what happened is, he didn't even tell me Benny was coming. Benny and them niggas just walked in. Set him right up.

Okay, cool. Okay, this is what it is. It's on today. So we sitting around. Niggas like pull up a beat. So I keep a batch of beats. I pulled up the beat. We all agreed on the beat.

We started writing. Now I'm saying, man, I'm saying, man, I'm saying, okay, hold on,

like, I can't, I can't even play with this shit, my nigga, like, I gotta like, so I tell my, I pull one of my producers aside, I say, yo, listen, I'm, I'm almost ready though, bro. He like, I gotta like, so I tell my, I pull one of my producers

inside, I say, yo, listen, I'm almost ready though, bro. He said, if you ready,

go. He said, I don't know. First? The first one done? I wanted to hear what Benny got to say. I rap with Capo every day,

so this is my partner. I already know, we mob deep in this shit. Like, we already got a system. But this nigga Benny here. Y'all let her kill it. So I'm saying, yo, look.

I said, yo, this is what I'm saying. He said, that shit hard. He said, but listen, my nigga. What you want to do? Oh, wait, you spit your verse to the- To him on the low like this. Shout out to the nigga that I played with. He said,

yo, man, go ahead, my nigga, this your house, this the lobby. I said, you know what?

I need more than that. You right. Fuck. And I went in and it just so happened and it came together because that first two bars that I said,

shout out to the niggas that I got out of the bar with, we used that as the hook. That was really part of my lines. That was really part of my rap. So it was crazy, though. It was sessions like that, but still shopping still.

My nigga like, you in there with spinners. He's like, you got to get busy, nigga. You know what I mean? J-Man, how you felt when Benny walked in? It's go time. It's go time. We're going to see the day. It was a great game. It's a time It's go time We gonna see the day It was a great game

It was It was a great game That's how I take That's how I take That's how I take I take rap like basketball I look at that It's disrespectful

When the nigga Mail you the verse Nah I don't know It's just It's just what we did Was so not normal In today's day

Of making music That's something that Was done so often when we first got into the game so for us to actually be in the studio with the artists

that was the flyest shit ever when Styles P came through that was another crazy session yeah he went crazy that was another crazy session

that just popped up she called me she said yo I'm on my way to the studio I just found the Jim Jones I said alright come on I'm here but I feel like

it was magic though though, my nigga. Conway record ain't, we still got a Conway record. But everybody that came in that studio. Everybody came. The shit was dope. When Fab and Dave came through, always a dope session. Yeah, definitely. Even Young Blue.

Young Blue. I ran into Young Blue at a bowling alley. He said he was going to be here the next day. I said, yo, you know, pull up. He pulled up. Everybody, it happened organically it was magic bro like it was like i don't know if we planned it that way but it was just like yo we got the best room in the city it's like a theater pull up we gonna you know it was right it was a vibe it was a vibe for the music like if you are artists that do music bro it was a vibe It was fun

It was no way You could've come up With no shit You got all the niggas in there You got Brooklyn niggas in there And the pressure was on Cause it was a bunch of real People in there

So it was like They waiting for you to perform It was really like A basketball game This arena And people sitting in there By the 30s and 40s They know we about to

Go in the booth Niggas just waiting On them The niggas be like Yo I'm going in the hole Everybody be like Stuck You come out Niggas be like, yo, I'm going in the hole. Everybody be like, I'm stuck. You come out, niggas be like, oh, you got that shit on. Niggas just sitting around like a nigga scored a three at the bottom.

Oh, you're so crazy. I'm not going to lie. I miss those type of sessions, though. You heard? That's how shit. That's how shit was, though. It was action-packed. And it was like, it was vibe.

It was like a ball game. But it felt natural. The pressure was to perform. But it felt good, though. Like, you know, it was the homies in there. You know, if you drink, that was there for you. If you smoke, that was there for you. You know, everything that was there for you.

You know what I mean? We ate, and, you know, we laughed, and we bonded. You know what I mean? And it just felt good. Say what? Say what? Now you know. Now you Say what? Now you know. Now you know me.

Now you know me. And I will say that the women were with me. Please. Of course. I got to specify. We don't put that on. But Jim, please. Nobody looks at Jim like that.

The 30 women that were sitting in the back there were always with me. Yes. Please specify. Yeah, specify. I got to specify. That's Germaniac You're a little Germaniac You're a short for maniac Oh no he told you the whole album

But Jim He told you the whole album He told you on every verse on this album Every song Every verse on this album Y'all fucked the escort I fucked the stripper I fucked the bartender

But then on every verse too Hey that last breakup hurt me Whoa That one. Yeah. See, I'm listening to y'all lyrics. He need the pills to get over that. No, no, no.

But honestly, I'm listening to y'all lyrics. He need the pills to get over that. You know the thing, man. It's release. But I felt bad. Before you start, I felt bad. Like when I'm listening to the lyrics and I hear that that's like a prominent point that you are making in verses. I'm like, I've seen this nigga

made a million times and I never thought to even think hey I wonder how he's handling a breakup like that's a common thing that you think with one of your niggas

after a breakup right I never thought and then I'm listening to this album and it sounded like oh he handling shit like me

not good it's not too well it looks good on the, he handling shit like me. Not good. It's not too well. It looks good on the outside. There's no tough ass nigga here. Crumbling on the inside. Ryan McKnight on the late night. And doing bad shit as we go.

Oh, man. Can it kind of make you more empty a little bit? Yeah. I mean, you know, the thing about the music and in life, like for me, like the music always been like a release. You know what I mean? Sometimes you get caught up in a life, in a lifestyle and you get caught up

in the moments. Sometimes I've been caught up in moments that I just didn't want to let go. You know what I mean? This nigga is... Yeah.

I'm letting him get his shit on. I've been caught up in moments... Nah, get your shit on. I know. I know. I know.

I know. I know. I'm not going to go over there. I'm not going to go over there. I'm not going know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

I'm not going to go over there. I'm not going to go over there. I'm not going to go over there. Please. I'm not. Listen, but check this out, though. Like, moments, right? Because I had this conversation with one of my women friends.

And she was like, yo, you're talking all this stuff. You're talking crazy. And I'm saying, don't take it all literal. Right? I didn't literally, you know, lick that pussy in her kid's room.

That wasn't literal. That wasn't literal. It's not literal. I fell asleep, she took me home, I licked the pussy in the kid's room. It was the kitchen.

It was the kitchen. All right, now, this is a great point. This is the problem we have with black art. Right, they take them too literal. They take things too literal. Too literal. It's not so, it's art. Yeah, this is a great point. This is the problem we have with black art. Right, they take it too literal. They take things too literal.

Too literal. So it's art. Yeah, don't go so literal. It's all art. It's freedom of speech and it's art. And people, like... Listen, we talk about that here all the time, about what they're doing with lyrics.

Right. And what we think about. All these cases and shit. Nah, nigga, being up here, you on this motherfucker four times, five times a week. You running out of content. Nah, nigga, being up here, you on this motherfucker four times, five times a week. You running out of content. Yo, yo, when the last time

you ate that bitch? You gotta come up with something. Whoa. Shorty can't take it all, literally. Why was that the first? Whoa, he's eating. You're eating?

You're eating? Yeah, he's eating. You definitely eating. Yeah, but listen. I think that green eye is the sign of eating. You went right there. You're vegan, my nigga.

You're vegan. He went straight to the box. But the other thing is like, when I say something like, waking up with strippers, man, I'm getting too old for that. It comes from a real place. Sometimes when we question what we got going on in life.

Is it literal or not literal? No, not literal. But it comes from a real place. Everything comes from a real place. It's Always a nigga With an old Batman suit Your Batman suit is old For real

Your Batman suit is Malfunctionist Right now as we speak Yo listen See What I'm saying is that Coming from a real place But don't take it too literal

What I'm saying is that As men We on our journey right We look at ourselves In the most times And we say, damn, I need to do more of this. I need to slow down on that.

I need to make some sort of improvisions on certain things in life. And that is weird. Sometimes the thought comes, this is partying, it's pain at the same time. And it's like,

we functioning and dysfunctioning at the same time. We up and we down and we laughing. Bingo's a potter, man. That's what he's talking about. I'm sick of this shit. I'm telling you, man.

Nigga, what happened in Miami, man? Can you tell us? Which time? You said it in a verse. No, the time. Which time in Miami? When I woke up on my, the Rolex got missing?

Yeah, that's the time. Oh, yeah, that's what happened. I was high for two mollies, doing wrong, right? Doing wrong, right? Doing wrong. It shouldys. Doing wrong. Right? Doing wrong. Right? Doing wrong. It should have just been one.

Right? Doing wrong. That's different from when Ricky lost your auto mall? Yeah, that's different times. Because he lost it. That wasn't mine. He lost. That wasn't on me.

That's a lot of loss. Yeah, it took losses in this game. This is life. This is a journey. But what I'm telling you is that this, I was at a place in my life where i was at like a like a confused state and doing things that i probably never did or shouldn't have been doing and i was caught up in the moment and i was caught up in life and and it something happened to me in miami that you know i was at a bo Trap, went back, had the room. Bad start.

Yeah, I was out of my mind, passed out, woke up, Rolex gone. And I had to really look at myself and say, yo, he forgot he hit me and all that. Because the lady was on Instagram talking about, this is not my nigga. This is not my nigga. So I had to really look at myself for what it's worth. Like, my nigga,

you got the opportunity to be great. This is not great. You calling yourself a king, but this ain't king shit. You understand? What's up? Zip my body. None of this shit.

Zip my... None of this shit. I change. Hey, that's my shit. I most certainly change I change everyday I tell you one thing and I never was a drug I never did drugs but I did like Molly

right which is a drug I understand that I'm trying to but he going crazy this is at a specific time better ask the question though this is at a specific time let him get you out of there

let him get you get the fuck out of there get the fuck out of there get the fuck out of there nah but you know what listen I got you I got you I got you

I'm trying to I'm trying to describe a specific time in my life nah but the dude that never did drugs and then does drugs that shit usually don't go the greatest

and especially if Molly is the drug you start with. Right. I'm specifying a specific time in my life. It's a moment. I look at this

different for Mano. I look at this different for Mano, right? This is why I bring this up. No matter what you say right now, it's going to come off to me as a blessing, right?

That's right. What the fuck is going on here? That's right. What? Oh, come on. All right. I figured that by the best. No, this is why I bring it up, What? Oh, come on. All right. I figured that by the best.

Excuse me. Did you think I'd lift weights? No, this is why I bring it up, right? Because whatever you say right now, I take it as a blessing. On this pod, we've been talking about discernment in hip hop when it comes to the women that we sleep with because of the results that we see it happen. Right? Right. There's been a topic here.

Right. Where the lineup. You just got to be weary of the lineup at all times so alright she took a watch or a watch got missing that's right

that's all that got missing and thank the lord thank the lord those are blessings those are lessons yeah yeah yeah those are lessons and it took me

having to you know learn that lesson to get my my act together so sometimes the lessons come hard right

it comes whoa that was that was yo that was that lesson to get my act together so sometimes the lessons come hard right whoa but you understand what I'm saying though you see how Brooklyn Harlan tension existed right that was crazy though but you understand sometimes the lessons come and it smacks you in the face and you're just like, whoa. Come on, yo. All right, we out. We out. We out. We out. You chill out.

You chill out. You chill out. I got to just. Jim. No, no, we done with you. We are done with you. We are done. That's crazy.

Bro, that's crazy. You know what I'm saying, though, nigga. No, no, we don't. Yeah, this is bad. Yeah, that was bad. Jim, before y'all got here, Ice was saying, Ice brought your name up. He asked me some stupid question about the King of New York, and I hate that question. I don't give a fuck about who the King of New York is.

But he did mention your name in that conversation. Let me ask you, gentlemen, what King of New York means, and did y'all ever put anybody in that in your life? I don't really play with the king thing i mean i like how main will put it we all kings you did we all kings in our own right but that's the problem with our been problem in our city from the get-go is that for the for what i can remember has always been somebody to take claim of they was the king of new york from the kumo d in them eras from back from caris one correct all them all the way up to now so this is what me and mano are doing is breaking that stigma of it's not one person that runs this motherfucker it's all of us that make this shit

run together you dig like and we bring the unity together he He's from Brooklyn, Fulham. Everybody know that. And the way we met is even iller. So what we showing people is cut the bullshit, bro. Let's get a dollar together. I like it. I like it. I'm glad. I like it.

That's what's been missing in New York. That's what you think is a fall of our position? You know, we used to run hip hop in New York. We now have you think is a fall of our position? You know, we used to run hip-hop in New York. We now have kind of succumbed to Atlanta.

Them niggas work together. Everybody succumbs to Atlanta. Atlanta took that. But they work together. Because they work together and even in the midst of most of them niggas

having their own quads, they still figure it out to make it, to push the same envelope forward. We don't do that. We let it be known we got a problem with him. It's our turn.

I'm the king of this motherfucker, you heard? And that comes with so much. You dig? That's one thing I've always watched is that comes with so much. Heavy as the hay. Right, because we perpetuate it. It can only be one king, and everybody's just saying, I'm the king. I'm the king. I'm the king. But we like saying this is I'm the king I'm the king

I'm the king but we like yo look bro you are the king but I'm the king too and he a king too so when you see Jim Jones

and Mano and Fabulous and Dave East and this one and that one when you see us all together none of us is less king everybody's a king right

I feel like that'll help turn the tide on some of the on the way that we looked at and the way we look at each other

because we don't gotta stand on each other to get money and it's we team up we can get more money

right for sure that's the part that's always skipped and that's just outside of hip hop that's in black black fight them deals get big as a unit see what I'm telling you we come together like it's like That's the part that's always skipped. And that's just outside of hip-hop. That's in black culture. That's anything.

Them deals get bigger as a unit. So I'm telling you, we come together. It's like, yo, we get money. So much has happened in our favor for us doing this album together. Don't forget, Mando has platinum records. I have platinum records. He has his own fan base. I have my own fan base.

We've both been in this game. So everything is working together for us now. Niggas that didn't like me, but they fuck with Mando now, fuck with me because of me and Mando. Niggas didn't like Jim? It's just now. Hypothetically, you know what I mean? You know what I mean?

Niggas that didn't like Mando. Oh, musically, musically, musically. I'm talking about musically. I've actually seen a couple of them. No, no, I understand. Street music, it all works one-on-one and shit like that. It worked in our favor. The opportunities come even, Marcus.

I wanted to ask y'all. Y'all have y'all playoff experience in the studio, having a blast, turning up, your niggas in there, swimming in there, we having a blast, right? But at some point, the music is done. And now it's time to put our brains together and say, all right, what do we do with this? Did y'all face any, Did y'all face any Did y'all face any

Anything from like Music executive type people That try to age us out? No Nah We ain't We don't We ain't hear

We ain't hear nothing Nah We're not even We're not even We're not even there They couldn't They wouldn't They wouldn't dare

Matters of fact We don't put ourselves in that position. They can't. We're not that. I totally don't even believe in that. I totally, absolutely throw that whole thought away. That shit is not even in the brain. We age less.

None of that shit means nothing. The only requirement is that we make dope music. Say it again. We fly as fuck. We look good as fuck. Say it again. This is not sports. I'm not running up and down a car.

Okay? This is music. And the reason why you didn't have a 30-year-old rapper 25 years ago is because the coach himself wasn't old enough. True story. You understand? You got grandmothers that's 50 years old right now that was 30 years old 20 years ago that absolutely

loved hip-hop. They didn't stop becoming fans because they got older. And that's a fact. Right. Say it again. Actually, they really want to fuck with this more than the new shit. Yeah. Hell yeah.

Yo, listen. The music don't change. If you, like, everybody in this culture that was born into hip hop, it don't change. What else is they going to listen to? The same way that our mothers and our grandmothers listened to the music in the 70s and that's the music that they love. That's what they love. What do we know?

People that love R&B, the old R&B and new R&B, that's what they on. Hip, you born into hip hop, that's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's like religion. religion like you don't know nothing else and you keeping up

with the times you're not changing the station your station is still hot 97 it's still power 105 like it's

that's forever that's all you know but also I gotta give you two gentlemen credit right because y'all are two of the

elder statesmen that seem to make it a point to fuck with the youth. Yes, indeed. You kind of got that. You don't have to. You don't have to. You want to give credit where you don't have to.

You hurt yourself when you don't. You don't have to do anything. I don't know that either. You don't have to do anything. But in my position, I do it because I didn't have niggas like me when I was coming up. Man. I have no guidance. Me and Cam learned by going up against a brick wall.

We learned by all the mistakes that we made. We didn't have nobody telling us what to do, what to do. I'm not saying I needed that, but that shit would have been dope to help us from bumping our head all the time and shit like that. So in turn, these are the things that I want to school the youngers on how to wick your ass game and how to get them some money and how to do this i could vouch for both these niggas you know i mean like being a a younger rapper you get i'm saying like not even because they're his like i'm not to say no names i've come across certain rappers where you'll see a nigga out

and you know a nigga know you and the nigga just keep it pushing jim pull up to the proper jim is on the roof in north whitney we shot our video on the roof in north jim ain't pull up to the property Jim is On the roof in Newark With me We shot our video On the roof in Newark Jim ain't pull up with 50 niggas I mean he pull right up We looking down You see the cars pull up like Man see me in Shaw Hills Mall I was on the exchange

Personal line My phone ring his It ain't never no Weird shit With certain niggas You know what I mean Like you can tell it's genuine And they really like

Oh nah Like you know what I mean Like I always say Like some niggas You can tell they was there These niggas was outside And they respect Younger niggas that nah. You know what I mean? I always say, some niggas, you could tell they was there. These niggas was outside, and they respect younger niggas that's outside.

You know what I mean? So when a nigga see you, it's like, oh, nah, what's up, Lil? As opposed to the other niggas where I just don't feel like really been there in the first place to respect a nigga

that's outside like that to where they show that type. These niggas always show love. I think them young niggas fuck with them. The game, I always joke on the game is to be sold and I'm told. Right.

And that shit is whack. I always thought that was whack. I always put my niggas onto all the games. That's right, man. I agree with you. Sold and I'm told. It's not my money. That's right.

Let's all break the bank, bro. Let's all figure it out. And that's the older niggas mentality. That's not my mentality. I'm putting everybody on the game. This is how I got the bag. This is how you can get the bag. This is how you can get the bag.

This is how you can get the bag. That's right. get the bag that's right that's been never but i never counted videos like you stepped out of music years ago it was like yo i'm gonna go get the bag over here but i'm gonna show little man how to get i'm gonna show yeah i never counted that saying as if they meant it for us and our niggas though right what what's that what's that i did you see how many niggas gave you alley-oop in this industry? Absolutely not. Oh, right then. So what you think that come from? Yeah. The game is to be sold, not told. They can't make a dollar off of you.

Right. I don't got to answer my phone. I'm not even helping you. Fuck a dollar with you, a dollar off you. They need control. Even if the dollars ain't coming from them, they still not going to give you no bread. It's crazy.

Yeah, it's terrible. And as far as with the young niggas, I love the young niggas. And everybody know that. I have more in common with them. You understand, like, my whole upbringing, I was a young nigga that was in the street. I went to prison when I was 16, 17 years old. So I was a young nigga.

I identified with being a young nigga. So, you know, when I say I got young nigga energy, I'm an OG by my felonies. I mean that. You understand? So it's all about nigga energy. I'm an OG by my felonies. I mean that. You understand? So it's all about the energy. It's all about the way you present yourself. Because I was a young nigga in the street that was looking at older niggas like, I respect you, but if you think you're going to come home on some other shit,

we're going to leave you. So I understood because I've been that. You see, it's just time, bro. It's no such thing as age, bro. It's just time, my nigga. It's just some people been here longer than others. Some people been here a short amount of time. The only thing that matters is now.

But at what point did you, because we were talking off mic outside. At what point in that journey that you speak of, did you make the decision to stop trying to win the Real Nigga Awards and put on the Hooochie daddy leather shorts? Look at me, nigga. The shades. I don't wear hoochie daddy. Look at me, nigga.

I don't do that. Look at me, nigga. Yeah, I'm not out here looking. Listen, let me tell you something. Man, I don't got hoochie daddy. Fat nigga, man. Man, I don't got hoochie daddy. Yeah, yeah.

This nigga don't wear hoochie daddy. He got the coochie daddy joints. You, you should just be a little bit shorter. I don't want to be fucking crazy, nigga. You must be fucking crazy, nigga. The fuck you talking about? Nigga, listen, let me tell you. Ask a serious question.

Look, look, look. Yo, yo. What? Don't do that. Y'all started this. You and your man freaky shit. First of all, his man is called freaky shorts because his shorts is too freaky. That was worse than... My nigga, you wear... First of all, hold on is called Freaky Shorts because his shorts are too freaky. That was the first of them. My nigga, first of all, hold on. You wear the same exact shorts that I wear.

The same exact type of shorts. They above your knees, nigga. Look at them. Your knees is out. You pulling them down. You pulling them down. You wearing the same type of shorts. You know why you wear the same type of shorts?

Here you go. Let me tell you why. Because they don't make them long no more. It is gym so funny. You know why you wear the same type of shorts? Here you go. Let me tell you why because they don't make them long no more. It is what it is. You cannot find long shorts in the store no more.

No, Jim had that but they had doorstep. Not good ones. Nah, not good. I've been shopping this weekend. You cannot find them. If they're not coming to you. If they're not coming to you.

It's a wrap up. It's a wrap up. It's over. They're above the knee and then when you sit down they raise up. It is what it is. It's nasty work. It's nasty. They above the knee. And then when you sit down, they raise up. It is what it is. It's nasty work out here.

I really feel like it's 83 out here. It's all right. I'm embracing it. The Lakers versus Celtics. I'm saying Thomas out here. It's okay with me, though, nigga. I'm embracing it. It's all right.

You don't want to be caught out here looking like you just came home on work at least, nigga. All them leg squats y'all do, y'all straight. It's the niggas like. I ain't got no legs, man. It's the niggas about us that don't worry about it caught out here looking like you just came home on work at least, nigga. All them leg squats y'all do, y'all straight. It's the niggas like... I ain't got no legs, man. It's the niggas about us that ain't work about it. I'll be trying. Jim don't do legs.

You see that nigga in there doing everything. Man, I see that nigga. Nigga in there getting busy, shoulder. I ain't got no legs, man. Jim, Jim to be doing some bullshit. I just ain't got no legs.

They just don't grow. I ain't got no ankles and shit don't grow. Now listen, you had a beef with me that you shared here about me not coming to the lobby, boy don't grow So I'm a serenity Now listen You had a beef You had a beef with me That you shared That you shared here About me not coming

To the lobby boys Yeah Can I share a beef too Okay share it I watched you gentlemen On um Million dollars worth of game Mmhmm

And then Wallo Was making a joke Mmhmm Wallo said Yo who you think Of winning the versus? Gilly or Joe Button? Now you two niggas laughed. That's fly with me. I don't care about that.

But it was one nigga there who I beat in the versus. And what nigga was that? You. Oh shit. So I'm watching the clip. I'm watching the clip. That's why I don't fuck with podcast niggas. Podcast niggas get on these fucking cat. Because podcast niggas

get on these other podcasts and they act new. Yo, I'm watching the clip. Yo, you's a funny nigga. I'm watching the clip and I'm like, yo, at any second, me ain't going to let him know

what I did to him. And then my name going to be, they going to put respect. And you didn't. You said, oh shit, that's crazy. You thought that

I was going to tell them how y'all cheated me on Clubhouse when I was in Joe Button's room. And you had all the people in there. You had that girl with the fat ass. Liking everything that put out there.

You know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm saying? What the f***? That's what we do. Hey, time stamp that. I knew who asked that one. Susie said it. Now that f***.

These new rappers are they getting work. Sir, sir, sir. Hey, hey. Oh, Moquito. Hey, Tom's there. Yeah. You could be shifting up for that girl. Oh, you tried me just now. Yeah, I didn't like that.

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Ended him. We was on club. Ended him. You ended me? Ended him. He's telling you. He's so fucking cap. No, tell him. Tell him for real. He's so fucking cap. Yo, listen. I was on club. Ended him. You ended me? Ended him. He's telling you. He's so fucking cap.

No, tell him. Tell him for real. He's so fucking cap. Yo, listen, I was in a room when the deck was stacked against me. We was in a room. Mano tried to show out. I was smoking him. It was like, it was like.

Yo. Mano got some records, too. Six, seven. Mano got records. To three. It was just dogging him. And then what happened was. Dogging him.

What happened was. him like and then what happened was what happened was he tried to he he tried he played pump it up and then put with with the jay-z verse and it's two songs it's like oh it was a technicality no but it was one song Bro you tried to play At his two No what happened was I'll tell the truth Cause Mano probably

Should've won If he was keeping up With rounds But he wasn't So he thought it was Round nine When it was round ten Right

So he played A round nine record And I played pump it up Got him to fuck out of here Get out of here And he tried to come back With his All of your bubba

It's over now You go all of your above outside, nigga. Oh, my God. Oh, y'all went 10. Yeah, we went 10. We went 10. We went 10. But I tell you what, though, nigga.

So it's a round 10. He trying to play. All of the above. I didn't get the chance to play. All of the above, boy. Right. No, no. I didn't get the chance to play.

I didn't play high hate on none of that. High hate outside. You lost count. High hate outside. So listen. Listen. What I'm saying is this, though. I tell you what, though lost count. I hate outside. So listen, listen. What I'm saying is this, though. I tell you what, though, nigga.

I tell you what, though, nigga. I tell you what. Anytime you're looking for me, yo. Line it up. Wait, no. I got to talk to you about versus. Line it up. Line it up.

Shut up, nigga. Listen, Jim, Jim, before you got here, I'm going to be honest. Joel said he wanted Banks in the versus, and I talked about it here. But before he said that. He said what? Before he said that, he disrespected Bleak. I didn't like that. None of us like that, Jim.

Jim, honestly, I didn't like that. I'm going to be honest with you. That's crazy. That's crazy to say it that way, though, Jim. Too easy. Look I'm going to be honest with you. He said, bleak my man. That's crazy. That's crazy to say it that way, though, Jim. Too easy. Look how we said it with the shrugs. Bleak my man, but that's like, come on. Come on what?

Come on what? Come on what? Yo. Jim Bryden possesses man. You want to look at the time of history of what we did when we went inside that building? We know what you did. Yo, we know. Okay, then.

We didn't hear too much. But this a run-up fade. This ain't like Dipset get to run up and run a fade with this. It's a run up fade. Don't forget Juelz is a multi-platinum artist. Not at all. We spoke with all that. You did? Every one of his singles went multi-

It's the too easy. So I mean the record's bleak. Is he gonna bring out J for coming of Age? He got to bring him out. He got to bring him out. He got to bring him out. Coming of Age is coming on.

Hey, wait. Hold on. I see what's going on. Coming of Age is coming on. I'll get fucking poached. Don't put me in the seat. Bleak my man. But Bleak, no, it's not.

Like, come on, bro. It's the set. I feel like it's a good fight. It's the set. Yo, but wait, now the set. It's the set. I want to ask about that, too. Today was my first time hearing that. And how did that come up? Summer Jam. Summer Jam. Oh, Summer Jam. I saw you, yeah, when you posted, you said...

Bleak saved my ass one day in the Gus game. They had my ass pent against the wall. Jay had me smothered in the Gus game one day, bro. I had to borrow like $12,000 from Bleak one night. And look how you sit here talking about it. That's my man, bud. Look how you sit here

talking about it. You know, but we gonna get to the factual, actual. We like, all right. The Versus went on with the Locks. Shout out to the Locks. Locks is the greatest group of all time.

They definitely have a brotherhood that's unmatched. Not saying we don't have a brotherhood, but everybody knows there's been a lot of separations and all type of discrepancies and back and forth throughout the years. So our brotherhood ain't as close-knit

as theirs is. So when it comes to their performance, when it comes to their stage presence, when it comes to all that, they got that intact. You heard? And you think that's where y'all lost it? We some Harlem niggas that we just think we just could do anything we want and we're going to end up coming on top.

You heard? I mean, I know why we lost, but I'm not getting into that part. You heard? You did? Okay. I got it. You did? I know why we lost.

I let somebody else tell the story. I hope somebody be truthful sooner or later, but I know why we lost. It wasn't the music, it wasn't the DJs or anything. It was a fair fight. It got funky,

but... What were we talking about? I heard you on A&G say that you wouldn't mind some more versus smoke. Yeah, me, myself, Jim Jones,

I do have a hell of a catalog in New York City if we're going to do a versus in New York City. Fucking right. I can give a lot of people a headache. You fucking a catalog in New York City if we're going to do a versus in New York City. Fucking right. I can give a lot of people a headache. You fucking right.

In New York City, I want anything to smoke you could throw at me. But there ain't nobody to do that. This is what I'm saying. I got 90 smoke. I got 2,000 smoke.

I got 210 smoke. And now I got 2022 smoke. I really want smoke in New York. Listen, who do you want? You said the versus call. I really want smoke in New York. Listen, who do you want? Like, you said the versus golf game. Ain't nobody going to do it.

Put him up there. Old nigga, young nigga, put him up there. Who? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know.

All jokes, all jokes inside. Put the jokes in the corner. Who? I can really do a record from 2000 and just go straight to 2022. I can't say Bleak knowing how you gentlemen feel. I mean, Bleak don't want to smoke.

Banks? What are you going to do? Where are they going to end off at? Banks? Yo, I don't like how y'all talking about Bleak. I'll be honest. I don't like it. I ain't talking about Bleak.

It's anybody. You heard? Jada. Who else in New York? Fab. I'll do it with Fab. But Fab already did one. Fab got some hella New York records.

Fab might be the only one that I really... Banks? What's wrong with Banks? I smoke Banks' head up right now. I'm rolling. I'm rolling, bro. You beg to differ? I'm rolling.

My shit is a whole... Fab is a hard hit. My shit is a whole... Fab's records are hard. My shit is a pack of... Fab's records are hard. My shit is a pack of shit is a whole My shit is a whole My shit is a package For my ditty back

To my water To the water My shit is a package Remember that My shit just ain't the rap It's just the package When I come out They want to see Capo

It's not too many niggas That got that package You know what's up With y'all and G I don't like you and Juelz Targeting Banks Titan Banks up is crazy That's how crazy

No I don't mind Who you think would win I just don't like How these niggas talk Jim could talk To things like that To me Juelz can't

2022 Yeah I would've sold on Juelz Sam ain't no walking apart I would've sold on Juelz I said that Jim and Banks are goody I said that I think Banks is a

I would've sold on Juelz Jim and Banks are goody End of that What year they gonna stop at Fuck you think This is a nostalgia era? I'm not nostalgic, nigga. I'm still lit. It's a difference.

What year they gonna stop at? Two more. What year they gonna stop at? What's the last record they did that really meant something to somebody out here that they can still get jiggy with? Not to be disrespectful, we talking hip-hop.

That's what we do, right? Be factual. Y'all here, y'all the hip-hop almanacs and shit like Let me know what I'm tripping you're we just talking about we just talking about Versus so I want to buy a verse Everybody has a pain to come up here say couple bugging the fucker. I smoke his head up He know that I don't care how they talk. We talking about versus.

But I'm very confident in where I'm at right now in this game in New York City. This is the what if. You know how the comic books used to do what if? And the fans get to still play like that. So there is a versus

that they talk about that would be interesting. You don't have to speak on it. And of course, it would never happen. But they continuously float you in Cam's name. That would be fire. They continuously float that.

That would be fire. And when they do, I do think it would be fire. Cam's going to have a hard time, though. He's going to have a hell of a hard time. Very hard time. And that's my heart. Very hard time. It's like us playing basketball back in the days.

In the back of the project. He's going to have a hard time. No, I agree. And I'm not going to have an easy time. I agree. Because Cam is very witty. You dig? He going to have a hard time. No, I agree. And I'm not going to have an easy time. I agree. Because Cam is very witty. You dig? Cam know how to freestyle.

Cam got bars. He started this shit from back in the day and has a hell of a fan base. You heard? And also, he knows me a lot. It's a hell of a battle.

You heard? If we going to go with showmanship and all that, it's going to be hell. But Cam know. Yo, what record got Jim lit

in New York solo? Certified Gangsters. You know, I keep my eyes wide east side high rise. That's my first record. Man, we was outside jumping niggas to that shit. Boy, you might be the reason

I was outside wildin'. The very first record I dropped was a bomb. It tore the city up. Heavy gangbanging culture. That was my reply. I had the homies saying that. Tunnel, Speed, 100 Bloods with me, Oh my god Was a bomb Tore the city up Heavy gang banging culture You know what I'm saying I had the homies saying that Tunnel

Speed 100 Bloods with me Every trip Maino in there Well he ain't make it to the tunnel But when he came out He was ice grilling and shit Like he had a problem with me

All the time He started making music That's how he used to run around That's how he used to run around Pretty much He was coming in the club No no no I understand that

And it was certified gangster But it was niggas on that record and running around. Pretty much. He was coming in the club in 30 deep. No, no, no. I understand that. And it was Certified Gangster. But it was niggas on that record. Let me see. I think the first solo record was Some in Miami. No. After that. After Certified Gangster

was Some in Miami. Some in Miami. That was the one that was Nationwide. No, Baby Girl. That's what I'm about to say. Baby Girl. I'd be like,

hold up. Wait a minute. That was the solo. That was the solo. That was the solo that broke it. There's nobody on this record but Jim Jones. There's nobody who can attribute the win, right? Because Certified Gangsters came, and that was just a slap. But it was just a slap.

So niggas didn't really give Jim the credit, I feel like. And then Summer with Miami came, but the bitches liked it. Trey was on it. And it's a girl record in the summer, so niggas didn't give Jim the other shit. When Baby Girl came out, and I was there. I was outside. In the city. There was nobody else.

There's no ballin'. Now, that's three records you just named. That's just three records you just named. And those are heaters. Right. That's just three. Ballin' was crazy. I might want to come out

and do a little day and night just because I put Cudi on. Cudi. Kick Cudi on. I heard you. I heard you on there. Shit.

Spicy shit. It's crazy. Why you said that? I did literally. I put him on. I know but why you said it like you said it? Because that's literally

how it happened. Y'all all right? Yeah I love him. The fuck? I ain't say nothing wrong. Talk about Cudi? Yeah it was just a little spicy. I mean, shit.

That was spicy talk? That was spicy. That might have been the way that the people wrote about- Maybe my spice is his mouth. I told the people how history went. Like, shit, if it wasn't for me, we would definitely not have Kid Cudi. Well, nobody would have heard the record. Nobody would know who he was remember a side

I remember a director that was nobody just trying to get on directing the people that he knew on the street was trying to do a video with me

you heard the first video they showed me that they did I said let me see a video they did it was the Kid Cudi video that record was on there I said shit

send that beat and I'm going to remix that record and you can do the video to that I put it on YouTube niggas at Hot 97 took it off YouTube and started playing it on Hot 97 shit, send that beat and I'm going to remix that record and you can do the video to that. I put it on YouTube. Niggas at Hot 97 took it off YouTube and started playing it on Hot 97. Nobody knew who Kid Cudi was, but Jim Jones had this dope-ass record where he's damn near singing on it and it got added to Hot 97. And then his manager got him a deal off of that,

took me off the record and Kid Cudi, Kanye, all that went crazy. But I was never mad about it. I'm just telling people how it went. I'm about to say, in hindsight, do you understand that move? I'm going to pay them tomorrow

when I get their phone. Huh? In hindsight, do you understand that move? Like the manager doing that or you feel like they could have gone about it differently?

Who was his manager name? Cassidy? Was it DJ Cassidy? Was it Cassidy? I don't know. I don't think it was Cassidy. It was the other one? Which one?

It was a big DJ. I have no idea. Whatever. You know these dudes. But I'm not that type of person. You heard? There was plenty of situations where I've been in where I definitely was instrumental in getting people. Was it Plain Pat?

These situations. Pat. Plain Pat. I thought it was you. Plain Pat. I thought it was Pat. That was that one kind of thing. No, it was another person.

Oh, okay. Robinson, maybe? No, no, no. Well, either way, I mean, I guess if you just stayed in what happened. I'm staying in what happened. I don't want nothing from him. I never wanted a dollar from him. I see him all the time.

Like, shit, the truth for me is sometimes better than gold. Like, I don't care about that shit. That wasn't part of my vision. That wasn't part of my money. I don't count on any. I count on what I'll count on. You heard? Anytime I can help somebody and I do something, I do money. I don't count on any, I count on what I'll count on. You heard? Anytime I can help somebody

and I do something, I do it because I could do it. I don't do it because I want something in the back of it. You dig? I'm not one of them people. Speaking of summer in Miami,

I'm going to say this and hope that Sir, Sir Ish can move with a question for me, you know. And you don't have to say anything. I really like how you don't,

how you didn't talk about anything that they were trying to get you to talk about. That was dope. What are you talking about? Anything about Miami. Anything about it. Like when you did your interviews and the interviewing niggas tried to get you

to talk about anything that happened in Miami, you handled all that shit like a G. And I came in here to say, we need more of that. Young nigg here to say, we need more of that. Young niggas would say, keeping it P. I don't know what that is. The key kept it P. But you know, I'm not that type of person.

I never glorify shit that's happening. But that's great. But we don't see it enough, though. How old are you? Because these niggas, me? 45. Yeah, nigga. But there was a time when I would've used it as allegedly something like that.

I would've used it to my... But that's not... I grew out of that. That shit didn't help me. It's counterproductive. It's counterproductive. To entertain shit like that, especially when it's live.

That's what make both of you niggas dope, right? But sometimes that's twofold, though. Y'all had to learn that. Sometimes that's twofold, though. Because sometimes niggas need to be put in their place. Because if you leave room for niggas to deny some shit, sometimes some shit got to be on camera sometimes. You understand?

48 Laws of Power. You know what that took me back to? Sometimes it be on camera. It's just that nobody ever seen it. What the fuck? You understand? 48 Laws of Power. You know what that took me back to? Sometimes it be on camera. It's just that nobody ever seen it. What the fuck? Yeah. Sometimes.

You did? Certain people, I'm just saying, it's just certain people that, you know, they deserving of certain things. Right?

And it's like, it needs to be very well known. It needs to be documented because that's what they deserve. That's not what we on. I don't like what I'm saying.

But ain't it documented even if footage never gets released? Come back to this room. Come back over here. Come back over here. All right. Where we at? We back lobby?

How long, how long, because y'all both got shit going on, right? Yeah. Like you're a successful podcaster. You got a deal. Round of applause, please.

What can you tell us, bro? What can you tell us about bro? What can you tell us about that look? Hey, listen, man, look, I learned from the best.

You came, I called you, I got some advice from you. Don't fucking lie. Did I get some advice from you? For sure. Alright,

I got advice from you, right? And, you know, and we doing what we do. We doing what we do. We're doing what we do. You're telling me that's crazy. You're trying to deal with me.

We're doing what we do. This thing is nuts, man. We're getting to it, though. That's the best way. What's the name of the podcast? Kitchen Talk. They know what it is. Joe Button been there?

I stole Meno's chef. I need her number again. I need her number again. I'll let you have her. She make a number again. I'll let you have her. She make a good wing. I'll let you have her. The salmon bite. What was it?

Was it salmon bite she had? Salmon cakes. Meno, she had a good time. She had everything. She be on time. Gourmet shit. Yeah, she be on time. I sent her to you.

No, no, she do great. She do great. Tell me about balancing being a successful podcaster and a rapper. I wouldn't call myself a successful podcaster. I feel like I wouldn't call myself a successful podcaster. I feel like I provide the vibe.

I feel like that is just another component. Do you get paid for that? Yeah, of course. Then you're very successful. Of course. Because there's thousands of podcasts out there

that don't get paid for nothing. So you're very successful at what you're doing. Listen. Listen. Listen. I feel like when it comes to that, I feel like I provide the vibe.

I feel like we run the show in a certain kind of way. I don't feel like I'm media. I feel like that is just another component that I do that's for my brand overall. I feel like right now where we're at in the game, that you can have many different components. You can have a show. You can be about your music. You can do so many different things.

I think this is the greatest time to do all that. And that's what I wanted to do because when I started the podcast, I didn't have no music. And I told my guy, I said, listen, we're in a position to do something that nobody else is doing. We could have this podcast going over here on the left, but we could still be competing on the right with the music.

If we do that, we're doing something that nobody's been doing. That's a fact. That's true. You understand? So, you know, I say like Joe and them step totally away from the rap. They don't want to do it. So he's fully, you know, engrossed into that. Right?

But I said that we in a position that do something totally different we will start this lobby boy shit that's gonna put us right back in the game at the same time we still gonna have our show running and we and we up and going and let me ask it that round applause for this guy Fox so the Fox so Definitely Fox Soul Are y'all doing anything With the workout Of course This is looking like something

Of course We already got a show Going on man Shout out to Diddy Yeah And Revolt We shot We shot

The first episode For our Fit Lit thing You know Reality Reality Fit Lit Fit Lit Fit Lit

Fit Lit That's the That's the Yeah That's the Fitness It started with The fitness initiative But We turn it down It started with what It started with The fitness initiative Fit Lit. Fit Lit. Fit Lit. Fit Lit. That's the one. Well, that's the fitness. It started with the fitness initiative. We turn it down.

It started with what? It started with the fitness initiative that started in the beginning of the year. Fab had this list of things, and that grew on to us, just hitting the gym and creating a brotherhood, and what people seen on the IG turned into Diddy, like, nah, we got to run this play. Y'all looking too good. For real. Y'all should be hilarious.

I figure these are four individuals that are all very successful at music, are all very good fathers to their kids. Like, it's a big dynamic. Like, you don't never get to see a show from a man's point of view, per se. Right.

Especially for alpha males as strong in the game as we are and things like that who are very responsible at the same time. So it's a lot that comes with it and we like to have a good time.

Right. You niggas checks coming from Mayweather. Right. That's all I heard. And that's a dope thing in itself though because all us together,

you know, which different individuals but so much in common, you know, black males in the rap game, fatherhood, all that. We balancing it out. You know, we going to the common. You know, black males in the rap game, fatherhood, all that. We balancing it out. You know, we going to the gym. You know, we working out, cracking jokes on each other about clothes

and shit like that. It's just a balance, and it's dope because it's dope content because all of us got our lives and shit like that. First episode we shot, I was talking to my son, trying to get him to come to the gym. He told me he needed an hour and a half to get ready so it's just that dynamic is is just dope and it's funny because it's like dude you need an hour and a half to get ready to get to the gym he's like yeah i gotta do this and i gotta do that like this is what you do every day like this i don't

understand your process that's a great thing that you brought up. Give me the thing that you gentlemen, as black fathers, and we all are dads here, right? Yeah. Give me the thing that y'all are the most in awe of as famous fathers fathering your kids. Give me that. What you mean? Give me what? As you're raising your kid, right? What do you look at your kid and you are most in awe of?

as you're raising your kid, right? What do you look at your kid and you are most in awe of? Like you are most, you're fascinated by this, looking at, like for me, right? I look at where I was when I was 21 and I look at where my kid is at 21. And I just think about,

I do side by side sometimes and I stand back like flabbergasted. Like, oh shit, this little nigga's in college and I had to buy him a car. He still won't go drive to go get, like, just shit like that. For y'all, what do y'all look at y'all kid and just, you know some of y'all is in them,

but they doing something different with what y'all gave them? I love my son. I love the person he is. I love that he is absolutely not like me. That part. He's a good human, right a he got a good heart and and i love that about him i love the fact that he's a he's so unselfish right i love that he he he really understands and he's a he's a rider and that i admire that you know what I mean because um I didn't even get the chance to make it to be his age free like but he's 19 by the time I was 19 I was what in Southport or at

Clinton somewhere um so with that being said I'm amazed at at his growth you know I'm looking at him and I'm saying he's got hair and I'm wow, like I grew up in prison and watching him develop. And I didn't have that. I didn't have that relationship with my father because he had passed. And it was just like it's amazing to me, you know, to see him and to see the type of individual he is and see the type of person that, you know, and him taking a life on having his own characteristics and being his own man that is amazing to me I don't really need it from you cause I seen it with you on TV yeah that's funny

I ain't gonna lie but the one thing that so like Mane said my son is the same thing total opposite of me very mild-mannered-back, don't talk too much. You know him.

You probably know him as Poodie. But, you know, so for him, he's 19. I know he's about to go outside. I know the world is different. And he didn't grow up the same way I grew up. So, you know, I know he's going to face up to some adversity. And I always want to know if he's going to be able to stay on his ground in whatever situation

in the most respectful way he can because I know he doesn't bother anybody but I seen the other day I got to see him stand up for himself

when we was in a place I don't need to talk about where he was at but I was watching him stand up for himself and the most

impressive thing was that his first response wasn't, nigga, you know who my father is? His first response was him talking to him. You heard? That's hard. You dig? By the time they figured out who his father was, it was a real.

Zero. All right. You dig? And not to say, you know, and that's the worst thing for me to ever know that he gotta go up against anything like that I don't want him

to have to get but to know that he gonna stay on his ground was I felt you dig I know he about

to go outside so it feels good that I know he'll be able to stand up for himself no matter where he's at without me being there yo let me ask a question

it's a little you cause you fucked me up you like yo my son different than me right cause he gotta go hard right if you ain't faced the adversity you faced you fuck me up you like yo my son different than me right because he got a good heart right if you ain't faced adversity you face you don't think you have a good heart i think you have a good heart that's why like now like we all come from the bottom right the bottom bottom right

so the shit that you go through when you're running around shapes you shapes you right your environment make you who you are right you. You know what I'm saying? Just to adjust and survive. Right. So if you go to prison, to survive in prison you gotta become an animal. Right.

You get what I'm saying? Indeed. But if you ain't never go to prison you might not have been an animal. He's the truest form of me. Gotcha.

I think that he would be like who I was if life and circumstances didn't harden me in a certain kind of way and circumstances didn't harden me in a certain kind of way like didn't scar me in a certain type of way like he is

he's probably the most purest form of me right there because he's unscathed by life he hasn't really had to deal with what I had to deal you know what I mean

so it's the same thing the best thing is to watch a son around their kid, a father that, I mean, a father around their kid, a father that really loves their kid, take care of their kid.

You can see it in the presence of them. Like, when Mane holds around Zayn and shit like that, I'm observant of everything and shit like that. it's like the same for me.

It's like looking at a mirror and shit like that. Like, you dig it? And we need to put that out there. We have our sons around. Like, we come to the studio

Come to the gym with us You know like We have them around And I think it's dope To have them It's a lot of fathers Like it's a stigma That goes around

That's why I made a post On the other day About the fathers They post and shit like that Because we don't get the credit That we deserve There's a lot of Fucked up mothers too

Sure But we don't Bear down on all that Shit like that We still highlight the fact That there's a Mother's Day and we give everybody a just due. But there's so many great fathers out there that do not get highlighted and do not get the credit

and say, oh, that's the job you're supposed to do anyway. Well, shit, it's the same job the mother's supposed to do. But at some point, we're just as good as the mothers to these kids. My son definitely hit me the other day talking about, yo, dog, what you want to do for Father's Day? And I'm like, that's not my job.

Ain't you supposed to be here? You said it out. What the fuck is he doing? I got a question. What? So what would y'all advice be to up and coming artists?

You feel me? Like a motherfucker like me or somebody else coming up because you find yourself- You consider yourself up and coming? If I ain't made it the way you niggas you have a different lane though that's true too and you you're a giant in your lane that's true too everybody's journey is different you're a giant

in in that world okay right there i appreciate that you feel me like you know looking up when you when you feel like you ain't made it the way niggas made it at all it's like you just chasing it you think about it wrong yeah you're looking at it wrong I'm a pessimist Right Don't overthink it Because everybody Everybody's journey Gonna be different Everybody's not gonna be Drake or this one or that one

Right right right And we shouldn't aspire to be We can only be the best us Right So Like When I think of you I think of

One of the One of the premier artists In that culture Right You understand Which is a That's a big culture A gigantic culture That you all created Especially now Right right one of the premier artists in that culture. Right. You understand? Which is a gigantic culture. That's all created. Especially now.

Right, right. It's huge. And not even premier artist godfather. Like, you were one of the people that started that shit. You were giant in that. Like, 100%. When that shit was in the basements and shit like that. We'd be sitting in the house watching y'all like,

oh, look at these things. This is crazy. You know what I mean? Right. So other artists. So other artists, like, trying to, like, oh, look at these things, this is crazy. You know what I mean? Right, so other artists, so other artists like trying to like balance, like because we talk

about fatherhood and this fatherhood thing is like, it's a sacrifice. It's a sacrifice for my child's future with time. 100%.

You know what I mean? So like, and every artist knows that that's the sacrifice you give. Like, I'm thinking about you at 18, 19, 20, 21, even though we're right here right now and you're nine.

It's all a sacrifice. What's your advice to the balance? You got to get there. You got to be there. You got to get there and you got to be there. I don't care what goal. I done took Jets back to my son's football game. I'm not missing that unless God has no way for me to get there, bro.

You just said it, nigga. It's balance, man. It's balance, nigga. And the balance is to make sure he sees you, make sure that she sees you, make sure you're there as much as possible, and make sure that they know that you take care of them. Of course, there's going to be instances where they know daddy's at work. There's a lot of times for that. But for the most part, don't miss as much as you did.

Like, that's one of the things I always make sure. Even to this day, like, I just had to go crazy for this whole problem. Like, I'm not even know. Since he been a baby, I'm going for you. You dig? No matter what goes on. I'm going for you no matter what. That's what I can tell you. That's how I go

about mine. I'm not missing nothing. I'm there. Fuck all this because nobody was there for me. The one thing I wanted to turn around and show my father who's not there is that I'm doing everything that you couldn't do for me because I know times are different back then. Tell me about the crypto crash.

Fuck that crypto crash. You better have some cash. You dig? I'm watching people get ready to jump out the window like this is an 87 Wall Street plumber. Like,

you niggas are stupid. If you put all your money inside of crypto and now you're losing your mind, like, everything comes with balance, my brother. Why would you put everything inside that crypto like you're supposed to i ain't gonna talk about that i have my own i have a cryptocurrency called capital coin and we all affected by certain things but we gotta be smart like i tell people i'm not a financial advisor no i'm not no am i not stupid i'm not putting all my eggs in one basket. My mom told me that a long time ago.

So why would y'all do that? There it is. There it is. You still doing it? Yes, indeed. No, but listen. There's an upside to this. Like,

everything that crashes goes back up. So right now, the crashes, if you do have a little bit of money to play with, to play with, not start buying it

while that shit is low. Then that shit go back up. You're going to get filthy rich quick and then you need to take that shit out buying it while that shit is low then that shit go back up you gonna get filthy rich quick and then you just take that shit out stash that shit up and play with it a little bit well that's where the bullshit

come in because when you got companies like a Binance and all that who now said oh everything is low guess what we holding transactions they ain't the only

motherfuckers in the game that's the big boy they holding transactions because they never would thought they don't have the cash or the capital to cash everybody out. So they're like, no, we're not going to let you buy in even if it's low. Everybody's in a panic.

Everybody's in a panic. Motherfuckers that got it, got it. Because they happy that this happened. When stocks plummet, motherfuckers be sitting in the back like, yes. This is what I'm telling you. They be like, yes. I'm going to come up.ers be sitting in the back like, yes. This is what I'm telling you. They be like, yes. I'm going to come up.

I'm going to go scoop all that shit up. Bitcoin is at 18,000 on the day, yes. There's going to be some millionaires made off of this promo. They're going to get

60, 70 again. Right. This is what I just said. Now is the time. Go in and buy, and buy, and buy now. I'm definitely going to

snatch up a couple ETHs and a couple bits just because. You heard? That's just life. Because if you can sustain it if you got money to sustain it

you're gonna then it's okay if you got money to play with I always had some cryptocurrency I always you know

had some you know money always you know I had a couple coins always every game

yo it's cyclical every game yeah it's up and it's down whether it's real estate whether it's yeah yo

every game go up and go down that's a fact I don't care what it is every game yo it's up and it's down real estate whether it's up and it's down every game go up and go down that's a fact i don't care what every game yo you just got what it is gotta weather the storm better you heard you get a hit this shit next year that shit that hit might not be the same you heard like that part you gotta persevere out here man i treat everything like basketball life really like a game of runs, it seem like. Like, you just have a week and a half where you just feel like shit and then the next week,

everything hitting right. Yep. Everything's straight. Shorty for all you. Everything Gucci, like all of the right box. But you gotta learn how to deal with both.

Both sides. When it's down and when it's... And that's the tough part, dealing with both. You know what I mean? But you gotta deal with... You gotta will yourself

into the position that you wanna be in, though, bro. know what I mean But you gotta deal But you gotta will yourself Into the position That you wanna be in though bro You gotta will it You gotta You gotta manifest that shit I'm big on that Like I come

I'm a nigga that never Rapped in his life Yeah Alright I was a nigga that never I started rapping in prison In Southport 23 hours locked in

Every single day Spending years in a box I started rapping Under those conditions I was never no rapper My nigga I spending years in a box. I started rapping under those conditions. I was never no rapper, my nigga. I had never had no aspirations about being a rapper. I never had a dream, never thought, never nothing.

So what I'm saying is that you can will your way into some shit if you believe strong enough, if you work hard enough, and your energy is just like, I'm going to get it. Nigga, it's either we're going to win or we're going to win. It ain't no other in between. It ain't no L because the L is really a lesson upon the journey anyway, nigga. A lesson turned into a blessing. So it's only winning. At the end of the day. But that crypto shit, you got me thinking about that shit.

Because I know how many people are losing their shit over it because some of these people were talking like they were God you understand like some of these people

were just way too far gone with it and had like they don't got no reserve of what reality is but even with the crypto crashes

and the stock crashes we don't take them like them. Of course not, because we know how to survive. We can eat peanut butter and jelly, man. We can eat tuna and fish. But that's not the end of our deal. We're not putting all our eggs in that one basket.

We know how to do different things. We know how to survive, bro. We come from survival is in our blood. It's in our nature. Like, we come from, you know what we come from? You know the pain and the like we we come from you know we know what i what we come from you know the pain and and the turmoil that's actually so easy to go without for me because it's actually harder with all this shit that it come with when you gotta say this nigga over here with all these diamonds on yo the three of your niggas do got a lot of diamonds This nigga sitting over here talking about It is I'm being 100 But for real I'm being 100

This super lit There's a lot going on This nigga crazy I'm just talking about physically Like I know I'm from Newark Like I know it's like to not have Like it's noodles

Y'all got life insurance? And at dinner I do Hell yeah You gotta have life insurance 100% I got three policies Rappers dying more than Army

Y'all got jewelry insurance? Like what if somebody take y'all shit? Winner's insurance and all that shit What if somebody take y'all shit? Y'all got jewelry insurance? Like what if somebody Take y'all shit? That's renter's insurance And all that shit What if somebody Take y'all shit? Y'all got insurance I don't know

Taking is the wrong word That's the wrong word I ain't like that Yo you better chill out You see I said I got renter's insurance Chill out My house was getting robbed

I got renter's insurance I ain't play with this Take it out I don't like to take the word Take it out In case you might lose it Like I love that sound a little

misplaced invasive misplaced left a hell of an expensive chain inside of a fucking hotel room that I wish I had insured back when I was younger a lesson

another lesson bad lesson man I slapped a push up wait wait wait what happened to it cause right in the hotels I leave some shit and the cleaning people come

you gotta wear it even if you don't wanna wear it cause it can get shaky in there I left I left I forgot that shit folded under come. When the cleaning people come, you got to wear it even if you don't want to wear it because it can get shaky in there. I left. I left. I forgot that shit folded under. I don't know what happened. Oh, you checked out.

I was in D.C. I'll never forget it. We checked out, headed back to New York. And I didn't even remember until we was like in Baltimore. On the highway. And out of Baltimore, walked in the parkway. I made it. You went in the middle of it.

Called the hotel. We started heading back to the hotel. Oh, that was a dub They was like What Man I think I'm done Yeah this was

I think I'm done I got a wealth Of information From you gentlemen Shut up man I'm But I will ask Fuck outta here Joe

It's two of you niggas The project was great What I will ask. Fuck out of here, Joe. It's two of you niggas. The project was great. I know y'all should be busy for a little bit. I get tired just watching how you niggas is moving around. That's how out of shape I'm in. Y'all everywhere. When can we expect more?

Oh, we already got a full clip loaded. And also we working on the actual fit that I will refab Dave and me. And we almost, we got a bunch of records for also we working on the actual Fitlet album FAB Dave and me and we almost we got a bunch of records for that shit too right now that's the next actual project

that's the shit I can get four miles off that's that that's that motivation to take to the gym this nigga just he ain't he ain't closed on his Peloton

man he don't he don't do all that he been trying to lose weight for you. How long now? Come on, man. I'm going to work out, bro. That's not part of what they talking about, bro.

They talking about Fit Lit, man. You can get Fit Lit. So y'all got a bunch of shit coming. Yeah, definitely. Y'all going to remain active. I got a Young Berg album. Berg gang album. Oh, yeah, man.

You playing. I forgot about that. I'm working. I forgot you had the Berg joint in the tuck. Berg is next. Soon as summertime, about end of July, I'm about to get into this Berg. Drop the first bomb and shit like that on that.

It's work time. Why you stopping? No, he got heat on that Berg project. He sent me a couple joints. Some shit on there. You be sneaky doing your sneaky research, too. You a sneaky guy. You don't even know about all these records

man it's crazy nah he sent some shit to my boss some girly shit you back with some more girly shit over some shit

I like a good Jim girl record I do I like that Mano I love you I can't I can't wait to see

what you have in store with the pod with the music I bought Mano last album you just not gonna talk into Mike don't even say it do not say it

do not say it you sitting on something yeah of course we are. We went to work. My nigga, this is... He's sitting on something. I got to put something out so we can keep being Eskimo brothers. No, I got to put it out.

But that boy got one record. He got this record, bro, that's going to go crazy. It's going to go crazy. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it if niggas hate on this record they just hating

when you dropping it and Mano still got waves at his age too we gonna get we gonna we gonna stretch out the lobby boys we got a couple more

videos to shoot we gonna get past that cycle we gonna let Slide become the number one record in the country and then we gonna we gonna Wu-Tang this shit

and then y'all both gonna go cause I see what y'all doing we gonna to go cause I see what y'all doing yo where can I get these can I get some glasses I see what y'all doing and then come right back around on some group shit

alright I need some glasses yeah y'all fucking them up yeah I need glasses and I ain't got the LASIK so

and then come with the solos no I see what y'all doing now yeah I see what y'all doing now well ladies and gentlemen do y'all have any more questions for the lobby boys man y'all niggas have been y'all n now. Yeah. I see what y'all doing now. Well, ladies and gentlemen, do y'all have any more questions for the lobby boys, man?

Y'all niggas have been awesome, y'all. I know y'all. Your publicist is back there having a blast. They just let you niggas rock. Say what you want. Yeah, they didn't even come up

to us and say that. Fuck some shit up. I forgot they were here until you said that. No, me too. They need shit to fix anyway. Yo, the lobby boys with publicists is great.

Stylus. I love the evolution and Boys with Publisys is great. Stylus. I love the evolution of this shit, man. Thank y'all. Friends of the show. Next time y'all have music, please come back. We're just having a great conversation, man. I know how y'all people do out there. Y'all take everything out of...

Jim, you need a podcast, man. For real. One of these days. When you done running around... Keep that in your back pocket. You gotta be right. One of these days. When you done running around. All I say, keep that in your back pocket. You gotta be right. You gotta be right. Look,

look. Shit, the setup gotta be right. We gonna do some shit together. We gonna figure out some shit that we gonna do. That I actually do call mine and Donnie's.

It's a business podcast, but it's all about business. We get all up in your business and shit like that. We gonna figure out some shit. I know what you mean. It's bumming. You know how we bumming.

Ladies and gentlemen. Yeah. mean. It's bumming. You know how we bumming. Ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, yeah. The Lobby Boys. Album is out right now. Stream it and beam it. Just don't smoke it. Y'all think Fabio cleaned y'all on this? Cleaned what?

One slide. Yeah, he went wild on that. He went crazy a little bit. I don't think he cleaned y'all. Nah. I don't think he cleaned y'all. He went Clean what? One slide? Yeah, he went wild on that. He went crazy a little bit. I don't think he cleaned y'all. Nah. I don't think he cleaned y'all, but he went crazy. I like Fabio.

Me too. I think he talking crazy. Me too, I like him. Right now with that drill sound, Fabio be stepping, man. For me,

he got big, but I'm just saying, that's what he does. That's why I'm so good. I'm talking shit, Jim. I'm talking shit. Hey,

hey. Mic check, I'm talking shit, Jim. I'm talking shit. Hey. Hey. Mic check. One, two, one, two. Thank you to Maino. Thank you to Jim Jones. Thank you to the 60 Straight Pull Up Nigga. They broke with him.

Shout out to Dennis. I got that right type of energy. Hold on, let's take a little time out. All of my enemies. Yo, that was the most fun I've had. I got to tell you, that was the most fun I've had in a long time in here, man. You niggas is silly, yo. What? Wait, who said that, Mano? Wait, Mano, you do ranch with your wings?

What you supposed to do? You do blue cheese? Always blue cheese. Never ranch. Never ranch. Always blue supposed to do? You do blue cheese? Always blue cheese. Never ranch. Never ranch. Always blue cheese. Niggas do blue cheese? It's always blue cheese, yo.

Don't bring that up, bro. Don't bring that up. It's always blue cheese. Only this one. Don't fucking bring that up, my nigga. Because you do weird shit. They say you come out of the blue. All of this is real Q.

I am the truth. The world is yellow. The diamond's blue. Don't make me fly. Pull up the one you got. And I'm hoping he won't be surprised. When I pull up the one to his side, All right, sleepers. Before we get into sleepers Sir I have to ask you here On the real pod

Did you do it? What? Come on man Did you do it? Are you serious? Did you do what they said you did? I seen some talk We seen the talk

Then we seen you get low I don't know You my brother Cause I'm not entertaining Like I'm actually I'm not pissed at you The niggas is trash right? I'm not entertaining Yeah And like actually I'm not pissed at you The niggas is trash right I'm not entertaining

Yeah and like Respectfully That's what I said But I don't like the I don't think I should have to go there To the point that like Niggas been watching me rap Since I was 19

Like I've rapped with Some of the best niggas in the world Like some of the best Joe Bud Styles P Jadakiss G Heron Lil Mazi

All these niggas And then you know what I mean We talking about Now we talking about word restriction Like I can't rhyme certain words And shit like that Like we got Fabulous saying Lycan Dykeman Hyman We got Now we talking about word restriction. I can't rhyme certain words and shit like that. We got Fabulous saying,

like indictment. We got different other niggas. When did we start removing words that Surf can't say? When you be leaning on niggas like that. Why would I steal from the likes of you, niggas? That's nasty work. Never steal from y'all. Y'all ain't dope enough to steal from.

I'm not going to the lobby to get crumbed. It don't make no sense for me. That's just a bad place to steal from y'all. Y'all ain't dope enough to steal from me. I'm not going to the lobby to get crumpled. Like, I just, it don't make no sense for me. Like, that's just a bad place to steal from. If I'm going to steal, I'm going to go to Gucci. I'm going to go to Louis.

I'm going to go steal. I'm not going to fucking. You heard what he said. I'm not going to. And if it's stolen, so what? What you going to do? That too.

You know what I mean? That too. But I don't even like to take it there because it's music. Yeah, like, that just was. You made a hotline I made our song

Now what I could've said that It's just distasteful To see some people Entertain that She's like You know what I mean But that's crazy

I'm probably like The best nigga That ever come from Jersey That was fucking disrespectful You need to leave All that shit alone What But you won't

Because your phone Look like that Your phone Your phone look crackheadish Yo My phone is not On my phone Your phone is on 3%

Screen cracked No problem My phone is on 9% The screen is not cracked I didn't even know That shit turned red Let me take this shit off bro That looks nuts

Look my screen is fine Joe Yo the toughest of niggas Got a little sentimental picture On they screensaver Yeah man I keep you going I just crack bro Alright so listen man I normally get my r&b

back but i was listening to new niggas new niggas do a verses i shouldn't have been listening to them but one of them niggas was all right and my ears i mean we don't hear sales we just hear when people all right so i'm gonna play this record it's called Day Off it's by a gentleman named Legacy Legacy TV L-E-G-A Z-Y-T-V I hate that name

that's aggravating that's aggravating the shit and I hate the artwork on this but he went in so you wanna give people time to develop and get their artwork together

Legacy hey the artwork all that shit is tough Legacy tv that's so not searchable no it actually is search that's very search that's very searchable yeah that's not mad at it you know legacy if i tell you somebody name is legacy you're gonna ask me i'm gonna have to tell you i tell you my name is legacy with a z then that's the only thing that pops up anyway you know i'm a sucker for a nigga sharing his story For a nigga trying to get introspective

Nah, check him out, he tried to get in his bag a little bit Remember where you heard it first I feel like I'm in prison, for God's sake I feel like I'm Craig on a Friday You got fired on your day off I guess you ain't a central, you got laid off I got bills, just $1,200 couldn't pay off So much is at stake, I'm A1, I don't make sauce I work like Amigo, it's only right that I take off Make sure these phones ain't tapped before I make calls

Cause I'm so fucking close to making A-balls Said she can whip, I touch her wrist, I'm like Ray Charles I'ma have these fiends after my base, now let's play ball Earth is so ghetto, take me back, I hate y'all I'm always a champion, I never ever seen a playoff I'm always in comments, during any type of chaos Mad city, this beam gotta dictate the payoff Listen to them scanners in Atlanta and the radars My niggas, they been scamming, ducking cameras, getting paid off

Put me in the game, coach They gon' try to hate me from the same rope There ain't another single day I can't remain broke I got the power, this could be ours If you sit down and teach me the game, ghost I'm a different type of nigga, ain't the same ghost Me and my niggas kinda distant, wish we stayed close I'm just a south side nigga screaming Clay Co

I never advertise my moves, I gotta stay young My shawty bad, I keep her low, but they know She passing gas, I see spaceships, I'm Faygo Clips loaded, big soldier, I keep a Draco I'm big, call me the sticks, on me, these niggas rainbow I shoot and never miss, I ain't light skinned, but my J. Cole I never knew to this, I'm true to this, they take notes You gotta pick a side, you niggas tryna play both I wasn't born yesterday to act like I'm a day old

Keep it fendi, I've been trendy, how I pay tolls Stay in my lane, it make sense, how I pay rolls All you new niggas told me two fingers, but you break codes Y'all don't follow protocol, y'all don't even take notes I'm cut from a different cloth, you can tell I make clothes I got something cooking, it be feeling like I make stoves Always in my bag, got me feeling like a payroll Come up with a plan, plus a beat like it's Precoce She tell me come over, we quarantining, I don't stay home And when she say period, I be hopin' that it came on And when she say period, I be hopin' that it came on

Follow all these laws I'll be your baby I'll be your baby It's brand new music or brand new old music From a gentleman named Legacy, shout out to him That's L-E-G-A-Z-Y, that one is called Day Off That was pro bono, I ain't even make him pay me to play that Just sounds good That was pro bono. I ain't even make them pay me to play that. Just sounds good.

All right, what we got next? Let's keep it pushing. Keep it moving. Going down to Memphis. All right. It's Big Moochie Grape. And? It's called East Haiti, baby. And?

You ice and push. Mmm. Y'all might need a new girl To do y'all drop now I hate y'all Y'all never play back Y'all never play back Okay Oh Okay I got some He said it my hood a bitch and I run it Put a curse on all my niggas hunt it Bring a big hit while I bounce in it may back Treat me like king when I step in the project Got rich in three months and can't no nigga talk it

Got book for a strap but I still keep the rock Like fuck all that rap shit let go catch a body Back in my roller this bitch cost a mic Don't fuck with these niggas like I'm head of the Knox Bad in my pocket been a fuck up the back Your shoulders broke? I'm the hardest big move to the touch I'ma get that shit regardless

Hey my niggas we mobbing Garage in front so I was starving Stopping this chopper we won't do no arguing Set the price on the dope won't do no bargain Shit on my niggas we mobbin' Garage in front so I was starving Stoppin' this chopper we won't do no argue Set the price on the dope won't do no bargain Shit on my neck and real damage be sparkin' Nigga tryna run up on Gregson on Sparky Ballin' hot gel like the old child Barker Pushin' that kooka just me and this carbun

Pull out my niggas I'm bitch I'm big boss That lil' nigga broke so you know that he lost me Flawless my diamond went big mooch and flossin' Fellas don't know me lil' bitch so be cautious Exotic back with it she got me coughin' Exotic glocks put the ox in the coffin Know that no way cause I'm signed to a dolphin My lil nigga pull on your block and they stalk

I had the strap and the screw in my backpack Been on that bullshit lil nigga, don't fast Got me a second, I never look back Been one to fuck up my pocket real fast Stick me a lil nigga, gel like a thumbtack E-Tated my hula bitch and I run that Put a curse on the opps, my niggas hunt that Burn your bitch head while I bounce in that Maybach

E-Tated baby bitch, I been a menace Bitch, when you grab the young nigga, they put the s*** down in the trenches Buy me two Glocks and they count with the switches Bully me mention they both got extensions Chop me a n**** up like I'm a henchman Little n**** playin' out his a** don't even miss it Vivienne diamonds they glisten Everything I rap bout facts better listen

Lost in the trap and I'm serving it clean Go run this s*** up and go take her to team 80 racks all blue, stuffed in my jeans We not cut the sign cause you for a n**** green Drive with a hunnid, go clear the whole scene Rich killer walkers at down in Saline Not talkin' me, me, but I'm chasin' my dreams Remember them days when I did have a thing I ain't discrepant, screwin' my backpack Been on that bullshit lil' nigga, don't fat

Got me a second, I never look back Big wanna fuck up my pocket real fast Stick me a lil' nigga, jail like a thong tap East Haiti, my hula bitch, and I run that Put a curse on all my niggas hunted hunt it Bring your big head wide, bouncing it, make back East Haiti, baby By Big Moochie Grape Alright, we're going to Long Island This is Husking, Ben Creek Yes, yes, yes Me again

Everybody in shape I don't see how I don't see how I don't see how I don't see how I don't see how I don't see how I don't see how

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Meet me by the stairs, I'm on the 12th floor My door's right across the hall And if he call, tell him you on the roof By the pool, you cool It's only one flight up, if time's up Sex in the city, now screens over fire trucks Sirens, I pull the blinds in, she pull me by a thousand Breaking her orphan, a loft orphan, how we creep

Same place, same time tomorrow Follow my lead, angel, pageant in the sky, model Ain't nobody supposed to know How we play, spin the bottle and fuck on the first go Never miss the lotto, jackpotter, G-spot, pussy-floodin' towel cause when you hit that sweet spotter they travels and starts to rise, you can watch it climax and rewind their eyes, so I creep quick one verse joint that's Creep by Huskingpin,, what you got for us? Dude's name is Kareem Taylor and the song is Until. I know you're afraid of it And you've run away from it

But now you trust me, you'll find safety You know what love is And you know the consequence And now your heart's really safe in me Until my heart stops Until my heart stops beating Until my heart stops beating As long as I'm still breathing You always have my heart Till my heart stops beating Until my heart stops beating As long as I'm still breathing You always have my heart Till my heart stops beating Until my heart stops beating I know you don't love easy I know you don't trust easy And I know all of the reasons why Yeah, you told me everything

So I give my everything Cause any less we be wasting time Cause then it lasts with you within time As long as I'm still breathing You'll always have my heart Till my heart starts beating Until my heart starts beating As long as I'm still breathing You'll always have my heart Till my heart starts beating Till my heart stops beating Yes, you

Until my heart stops beating Yes, you will Until my heart stops Till my heart stops beating Until my heart stops Till my heart stops Until my heart starts beating Until my heart stops beating Until my heart stops beating

As a till by Kaleem Taylor Alrighty then Night sleepers from all you gentlemen today Mic check Alright, real good pod today I wanna shout out to Jim Jones and Maino For coming by the Lobby Boys album In your phone right now Shout out to Suitsurf, Jersey Jones and Maino for coming by the Lobby Boys album in your phone right now.

Shout out to SuServe, Jersey's finest. Thank you for stopping by today. Shout out to y'all. Thank y'all. Good energy today, man. I appreciate y'all. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there until the next time I bid you adieu.

Farewell, adios, arrivederci, so long, goodbye, au revoir. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass I don't love her So let's make this one last as if it's all we have And last but certainly not least The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women wanna travel And the closed-minded women want you to teach them things. Grab a Tylenol, you might need it. Wait a minute!

If it isn't love, why do I feel this way? Why does she stay on my mind? If it isn't love, why does it feel so bad? Make me feel so sad Inside You're back It's enough Father's Day is this weekend.

We'll talk about it this weekend. We'll talk about it Saturday. And my birthday. Predictions for the next... And your birthday. Predictions for the next game. Give it to me. The winner.

Warriors. Warriors. The series is up. Welcome home. Love how y'all come around. I like that. I like that. Shout out to the Warriors. Warriors. The series is a welcome home. Love how y'all come around. I like that. I like that. Shout out to the Warriors. Warriors. Yes, you said what? I said Celtics.

Say it with some Basie voice. I said Celtics. There you go. There you go. Yeah, speak like a man. Alright, we gone. Y'all enjoy your week. Stay safe. Head on a swivel. Ayyyy. Enjoy your week. Stay safe. Head on a swivel. Ay. Run.

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It is love. Oh, I've got to let them go off. Maybe she'll take me back. Take her back, yeah. I made a big mistake. Won't you forgive me? Now I can feel it She's never felt before I really love her

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