The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 550 | "Everybody Has a Job"

Episode Date: July 13, 2022

Gatekeepers in Hip Hop have always existed, and Conway the Machine accuses Funkmaster Flex of being one of them. First, the crew discusses the beef between the emcee and legendary DJ (14:35) and Cardi B's latest beef with The Shade Room (36:45). Next, Mario received backlash for working with Tory Lanez, and the guys debate if Ne-Yo was "clout chasing" (1:35:00) and Lloyd Banks joins the pod (1:58:40).   Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP.: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks Joe | 6lack - “UMI Says” Ice | Gucci Mane - “All Dz Chainz” (Ft. Lil Baby) Parks | Westside Gunn - “Horses on Sunset” (Ft. Stove God Cooks) Ish | Jazmine Sullivan - “Girl Like Me” (H.E.R.)

So now, what were you saying, my brother? I just, I complimented you on your shades. Thank you. I appreciate it. I said those are nice. That's what Connie wore. And then I said, I have to start getting into shades now. Parks asked me why.

And then Parks said why. Naturally. I don't wear glasses anymore. That don't say why you have to get into shades. Oh, nah, nah. Because now I can. See, before I could never get in the shades. Why?

Because I wore glasses. Get prescription. Yeah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I'm not doing all that for every pair of shades. No thank you. Wow. So now you're going to get a whole fleet of shades. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm going to start, you know, get my little shades game up. Got you. I ain't mad at you, player. You know. Nothing crazy. A little pair of hair in there. Any side effect from the eyes yet? Nah.

Mm-mm. I don't even use the drop shit no more. I don't have dry eye or anything. Mm. Vision great. Nighttime driving great. Don't tell me I can't get it. Oh, damn. Your shit's that bad? Sheesh. Mm-hmm. Vision great Nighttime driving great Don't tell me I can't get it Oh damn

Your shit's that bad? Sheesh I tried to get it a couple years ago They told me my vision was too bad Nah I'm glad I got it Life's changing Nah I heard

What were you saying prior to your Eye conversation? Nah I wasn't saying nothing else How y'all doing today? You good Parks? Yeah I'm feeling well I'm straight'all doing today? You good, Parks? Yeah, I'm feeling well. I'm straight. How you doing, Joe?

You good? I'll be good after I get an answer to my question that I asked you. I answered it. I said I wasn't saying nothing else. That's the answer to the question. You said you was a fashion... No, I said I wasn't saying anything else.

I remember something he was saying. Something about fashion, I think, right? Yeah. Oh, I might be getting into fashion now or something. Maybe. We'll see. You got a stylist? No.

I don't make that much yet. You could probably find an affordable stylist that'll work within your means. I thought he said he had one. No, he didn't say that. Oh, pardon me. That's not what he said. He definitely said that. No, that's definitely not what he said.

It was implied at least It wasn't even implied Can you wear any color That you want tomorrow Yeah Outside on a nice Beautiful hot day Long as it's not

Solid gray Shorts Or sweatpants Solid gray Why might that be I Just said Are you allergic

To solid gray Yeah The fleece Break you out Oh okay Yeah Gotcha I'm allergic to solid gray? Yeah. The fleece break you out. Oh, okay. Yeah. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. I'm allergic to the bullshit that come with that.

I'm sure they make polyester. It's not about the material. Bullshit's not about the material, brother. The bullshit comes with wearing solid gray sweats. You would have to ask Ice. I don't know. I'm not wearing solid gray. That's why this shit got some splash of color in it.

Why? Bullshit that came with it. We don't know why. We don't have that experience why This shit got some Splash of color in it Why? Bullshit We don't know why We don't have that experience What happened Alex You good? You good? Alex what happened?

Why you can't wear gray? My G I'm wearing gray now my G What's up? Solid gray Why you can't wear the solid gray? I don't like solid gray Oh okay

That's last season That's the only color you don't like right? Yeah it's the only color Hold Spatel on yourself man Go ahead and tell Ain't nothing to tell man You know we had a little combo Yo don't like, right? Yes, only color. Hold Spektel on yourself, man. Go ahead and tell. Ain't nothing to tell, man. You know, we had a little combo. Yo, don't go out wearing that.

It's the same thing when I say don't go out wearing that. So it's respect on both sides. That's control. It's control. It's control. Nigga admitted to the control. Oh, what, you want me to lie? No, no, no.

It's control. Wait, so you tell her, too, not to wear certain things, so it's only right that she should be able to say to you. Yeah. What colors she can't wear? It's not colors.

She got some shit that she just don't go outside in that. Why? If I'm with you, it's cool. Same thing she told me. Yo, you can wear

this and this as long as I'm with you. She put your clothes out like first day of school. On the bed. But why she can't have her body, her clothes? You right. Y'all send each other a fit check in the morning?

Her body, her choice. Front of the mirror. You gotta stand in front of the mirror like, you approve? Yeah, because how you know? It's trust. I trust you to do what I say? I trust you to do what you say. What? I ain't there It's trust Secrets aside I trust you to do what I say I trust you to do what you say What are you confused about?

What's that? Don't let Joe trip you up Talk your shit Ice I trust you to do what you say I see what I Talk your shit Y'all getting cool brother Joe today I'm not playing with none of y'all

Nah I'm cool today too man You getting cool You getting grand rising, Joe, today. You ho-tep? Yep. Grandest of risings for all. Positive vibes? But what you think is going to happen if you step out in gray shorts?

I don't know. Some women don't like, eh, listen, whatever. She thinks you got a block shaker on her hand. Oh, hey, Alex. You going to get tackled? Oh, shit. Whoa. What an imagination she has.

Oh, shit. Where I hate to be going when that shit about to get foggy out when the gray shorts step out. We good. Best buy? Yeah. Apple store. Burlington. The host. Oh, my. You know what I mean? Yo, chill out, good. Best Buy? Yeah. Apple Store. Burlington. The Hostel.

You know what I mean? Yo, chill out, Alex. I'm the Hostel. Yo, relax. You on the side. That's valid. That's valid. Hey, yo.

There it goes. Everybody good? Yo. There it goes. Ice being on a gray shorts... Ban. Restriction. Ban is the funniest thing in the world, yo. Gotcha. I hate being on a gray shorts restriction. Ban is the funniest thing in the world, yo.

Do you have those same restrictions you do? You're married. No. I said no, nigga. He did kind of whisper that, right? Oh, I did. He didn't want to hear it? How about you, Joe?

You safe? I don't even know. I never even broached this topic. At any time it's said, I think it's a joke. Imagine somebody stopping me from wearing the extra thinnies to the strip club. What? You're going to go get some extra, extra thin ones. Are you shitting me?

I go shopping with that in mind. It's a little too thick, though. I'm going in with some pajama pants. Straight from the Nordstrom's rack. You shitting me? Oh, man. Oh, it's just good. All right.

Y'all ready to pop? What's up? I'm ready to pop, man. I ain't spoke to you, bro. Y'all all right? Yeah, sure. I'm all right. I'm good. I'm good now. Everybody had a's up? I'm ready to pod, man. I ain't spoke to you, bro. Y'all all right? Yeah, sure. I'm good. I'm good now. Everybody had a good weekend?

I'm good. Yeah. I had fun. Everybody. I had a great weekend. See, already that's boring. Like a podcast full of dudes that had a great weekend. I can tell you about mine.

That's boring for you? You want to have a shitty weekend? Who the hell wants to hear? I got a little bit of excitement in my weekend. Nobody wants to hear from the prude friend. I went to the nude beach. The whole girl. Hey, what you did last weekend, bitch?

Oh, bitch, it was turnt. Yeah. I don't want to hear from her. It was great. I took my kids out to the spa. I went to the nude beach. Hey, I'm finally. Finally.

You're lying. I swear to God. Right out there in the Rockaways. No wonder you can wear gray shorts. This guy's got some other inhibitions. All right, you went to the new beach. We kept our clothes on. But you know what I mean?

We hung out. We had a good time. We need a boo boy, man. Boo. How did he wear a boy? They should have kicked y'all out. I mean, everyone wasn't new. But nudity was accepted there.

Nah, they should have kicked y'all out. Wait, what did you ask him this? I said, y'all was just voyeurs. No, we were hanging out. Like I said, everyone wasn't naked. But it was acceptable've kicked y'all out. Wait, what'd you ask him this? I said y'all was just voyeurs. No, we were hanging out. Like I said, everyone wasn't naked, but it was acceptable. It was acceptable.

Some nice y'all means out there? I saw a lot of naked people. Some pretty ones? Some pretty ones. I mean, the thing with the nude beach is you get the good

and the bad, but everyone's beautiful in their own way. Good point. That's a great cape. And a lot of times it's more the Yeah. Yeah. The contrary. Yeah. a great cape. And a lot of times it's more the Yeah.

Yeah. Contrary. Yeah. Yeah. Who do you think was more scared of y'all getting nude at the nude beach?

You or her? Neither of us are scared. We're doing it. We went with another couple so that would have been totally weird. Wait. Wait.

The appetizer sharing couple? Different couple. Not the nigga that ate your pancake. Different couple. Y'all fly with a lot of couples, boy. I see what's going your pancake. Y'all fly with a lot of couples, boy. I see what's going on here. Y'all do a lot of little couple

maneuvering. Double dates are great, man. Hey, man. Y'all do it. I see what's going on. Double dates at a nudie beach? Yeah. That's a little different. That's white shit. I'm good. My friends. They were going anyway. So do you want to come?

My friends Don't put it off on your friends No man Don't put it off They were going I knew something was up with you When you was playing with your beard From earlier

My friends Did they have to twist your arm? No not really Not really It was a good time Don't invite me and my girl To the nudie beach I'm going to think

You're just trying to look at my girl. Nah. Boy, you already didn't let her out in anything that we might find appealing. That's true. So the odds of her getting butterscotch are very, very rare. Oh, my God, yo. I'm with you. So if Pars called you up and said, yo.

What if I said, I made clear, like, we're keeping our clothes on. We're just going to go hang out. Yeah, y'all are. Every part of me do I learn about. That might be destined. No, not for me. You wouldn't go with us to a nude beach because you think we would be looking at your girl? No, fam.

I'm talking about his question. If I'm going to the nude beach, I'm going to partake. I'm not going to just fucking go and watch everybody else. Partake in what? Nudity? Yeah. You whore.

Oh, that's what you're saying. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I'm not going. You been to the new beach? Exhibitionist. Where? In Jamaica.

Nigga here. No. Tell us about me. No. Jamaica Queens. You went to hedonism or something? No. No.

I never did that. I ain't letting your color in hedonism. What? What are you talking about? I'm lost. No, hedonism is an old nigga thing. You should have went. Yeah, hedonism is.

You should have went. You went there before? No. You guys are prudes. Something wrong with you, yo. It took you that long to answer? Yeah, you didn't have to think about that one for a minute. It took you that long to answer.

I don't know. Here it is. Y'all not going to get the grand rising out of me. Pause. Pause. Pause in this particular instance. Oh, pause me. Nude beach man gets the point.

This is fucking insane. Oh, yeah. So who was taller out of you or your friend that went? I'm taller. Well, who has a bigger foot out of you two?

I guess I... I didn't think about that. No. Yo, bro, put up your foot. Let's see how this is going to go. But if your friend wanted all y'all to get nude at the nude beach,

what would you have said? No, that's weird. I don't want to see your wife... Yo, y'all... I don't want to see his wife naked. But you nude at the nude beach, what would you have said? No, that's weird. I don't want to see your wife. Yo, y'all. I don't want to see his wife naked. But you went to the nude beach. It's a very big difference.

It's a very big difference from seeing strangers naked, from seeing my friend's wife that we hang out frequently naked. Yes, that's true. Yes, that's very big. That's kind of what I was saying. That's what I said.

Don't ask, don't invite me with you and your girl to the nude beach. I guess. Don't ask me. I'm straight. Don't ask me. Y'm straight. Don't ask me.

Y'all like traditionalists. Don't try to ask me. You can swing it real quick. Yeah, don't ask me what I would do. Y'all turn that whole shit up. Y'all got Joe fucked up.

Y'all got some real 50s and 60s thoughts. No, you can't look at her. Okay. Oh, man. But that is what the new beach is for. Yeah. So if you go there, you go there.

Whatever. Come on. What are you going to start with? I don't know. You got some vibes for us? Yeah. Set the tone. I'm starting with Max.

It's a nice day all week. It's beautiful outside grand rising Joe Snap your fingers snap snap snap snap snaps Thanks Bart, oh thanks Ice All right feeling good feeling great Real speakeasy-ish. Yeah, I'm talking about headphones, you know what I mean? Here we go Alright, mic check, one, two, one, two, one, two

Hey Hey Shout out to the first and last time listeners Shout out to wherever you might be listening from Ayy Summer speeding by like it got somewhere to be It's Halloween already in my head got somewhere to be. It's Halloween already in my head.

Fucking looking for costumes. Yeah, I'm not doing that last minute shit ever again. I'll start it. Shit out to the ladies out there listening. They still coming in, y'all. The line's around the corner. Hey! For the ladies out there listening, they still coming in, y'all. The line's around the corner. Hey. Hey. What episode is this?

550 Not that numbers matter, age We're ageless That's right, this could be a whole one Yeah, absolutely Yeah, could be one, could be zero Microphone check, one, two, what is this? Welcome to episode 550 of the Joe Budden Podcast.

I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host. Here with a few of my nearest and dearest. Parks is here, Ish is here, Ice is here, Corey is here. Young boys in the back, y'all good? Yeah. Your weekend was all right? Yes, sir. Good, glad to hear it.

Glad you could be here with us today. How about you, gentlemen? Great. Pretty good, man, pretty good. Glad to be here with us today how about you gentlemen great pretty good man pretty good glad to be here like you said all right where would you like to begin we'll get right to it oh you got for us new york and shit my opinion man y'all gotta get them old niggas about the way like flexing them niggas man y'all mean them gatekeepers that y'all got up there man that's that's trying to dictate, like, who, who, who, you know what I'm saying? This is Conway from Griselda. I don't need y'all niggas because if I needed y'all niggas, y'all niggas would be fake stifling my growth.

Y'all don't play my shit. Such ones you got on Wendy Williams' show, nigga, on primetime TV, nigga. And, like, say what you said. Flex every chance you get. You said that. You got to stand on that. Which you didn't like shit on us. Like, I want to make that clear.

You know what I'm saying? So what I told you when I was saying like, oh, shit, he ain't saying nothing wrong. Shit, that ain't his motion. He don't listen to that shit. But it's like, what do you listen to then, bro? It's clear what you listen to. You want to take right the niggas who lit and popular in the club and, you know, all that. That's what y'all need.

All right. To which Flex has responded. He says, so let's begin. You're managed by Rock Nation, Jay-Z. Signed to Shady Records, Eminem. Distributed by Interscope Records, major label. You and your team have had a feature from Jay-Z, Eminem, Lil Wayne, J. Cole, Jadakiss, Travis Scott, French Montana, and more. Weren't you on Kanye's Donda album?

I'm going to give you the advice that Paul Rosenberg should have gave you. You're a 40-plus bars rapper, sorry lyric lyricist that has had every resource possible if you are not happy with your career as of today with all those cosigns i think you have peaked my guy what do you think you're only going to take this as disrespect because truth might be a bit much for you sign grandpa wheelchair bandit warm milk general i might need a podcast what do y'all think okay that's the gist of their Back and forth Uh huh

I'm here to ask you gentlemen Where you guys stand on this? I mean I think that Expecting support From major label Making underground hip hop Or major radio stations Making underground hip hop

Is unrealistic expectations Alright so you're on Flexi I don't like the way That he responded though I love the way the way that he responded, though. I love the way he responded. Well, he let Parks finish getting his shit off. Because what does that have to do with his point of you not playing my music?

It has nothing to do with the point. It's true. Whatsoever. At no point in Conway's rant was he talking about being bitter or unhappy or unsuccessful or any of the things that Flex is alluding to here. He was talking about not getting played. Well, he did say, you're stifling my growth, which is.

No, he said, if I needed you. Correct. You would be stifling my growth. I don't really need you because I'm still moving around. But if I needed you or your cosign, then you would be stifling me. Then what would be the point of the entire Conway rant? If you don't need Flex and he's not stifling anything, then why rant

and why bring that up? I'm only saying I think that's what Flex is responding to, but go ahead. I mean, you would still want to hear your music

if you think your music is relevant. You would still want to hear your music on one of the biggest hip-hop stages in the world, which is New York City. Were you done?

No, I have more to add. Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Well, I think that what he mentioned with the Sus 1 thing, Sus 1 went York City. Were you done? No, I have more to add. Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Well, I think that what he mentioned with the Sus1 thing, Sus1 went on Wendy Williams, and from what I understand, he said that Conway is in his top five rappers, lyricists, whatever it is. So I think that's kind of his beef, and I don't know what he was referring to Funk Flex saying, but if he put him in a similar type of list, it's like, yo, if you love my shit

that much, why don't you ever play it? I think that particular type of hip hop might have passed us. Like, I think if they would have came out in the early 2000s, Griselda would have been in the tops of a lot of people's shit.

I just think that that particular... Griselda's in the tops of a lot of people's shit. No, I know. I'm just saying, like, mainstream hip hop.

You get what I'm saying? Like, I think that that's for our generation. Because he even mentions bars. Like, bars rappers. And he puts it in quotes. Meaning like,

that's not necessarily what niggas want to hear today. We like that because we like rappers. But the young kids ain't necessarily listen to that shit. I don't like rappers.

But I know what you're saying. Yeah, like, you know what I mean. Like, jokers that get busy. Ice? i agree with what you're saying ish i think that's why he's telling him yo you're a bars rapper that's not the sound so you're on whose side here conway i see both of their points flex is paid by the radio station to play what's hot they not necessarily what the mainstream want to hear today you get what i'm saying so i can't play y'all shit i might think by the radio station to play was hot. They not necessarily what the mainstream want to hear today. You get what I'm saying?

So I can't play y'all shit. I might think that most deaf is hot. That don't mean I'm going to play it on the radio. All right. Basically, fam, y'all are an underground sound.

Even if it's a popular underground sound, you're an underground sound. Just like you were just saying. Anything played on the radio is coming from up above. You know what I'm saying? These DJs don't choose what they're playing on these shows.

Right. I think that's a cop-out, too. It's the truth. It's a cop-out, though. It's still the truth. It's still a cop-out. They got a little bit of wiggle room. I can play what I want to play, and I don't like that.

I'm not playing it. I was just going to say, not for nothing, it's not really a radio rate y'all don't make radio records y'all don't make club records flex is djing in the club i'm not gonna play it there flex is djing on the radio you don't make the music for this listen i got a demo i got a feed i got they don't if they don't want to hear it what you want me to do you have y'all have a great fan base, a loyal, dedicated fan base, but it's an underground fan base. This is not an underground platform. I agree.

That's just really what it all boils down to. You're saying, I don't need this cosign. I don't need this. So why you care if Flex played or not then? And why you singling out Flex? Because he's him. See, I don why you singling out Flex because he's him see I don't like and you know he's him

I don't like that but you know Flex is him I don't like that you want bombs dropped on your record that's what you want I don't like that because there's nothing wrong

with what Conway is saying until you start singling out one person and that just opens the door for a whole new conversation I wouldn't call Flex a gatekeeper by any standard. Mm-mm.

Not today? Eh, some standard. Not today. Explain it to me. Why wouldn't you? When Flex drops bombs on your shit, it means something. He's not a gatekeeper. Not today, man.

There are mad entryways into music outside of Funkmaster Flex. I have these kids. Flex was a good song. And to be frank with you, Flex ain't the ground level, has never been the ground level and has never been the ground level entry way for uh new rappers every new rapper sign knew that you wasn't just running the flex to get your shit played but they're not necessarily new now they also they in the game now like the game is the game and everybody got a job to do.

Like there was a couple seconds where I took my, a record I was trying to work to people that I thought I had a relationship with after Pump It Up and they didn't play it and I got mad. There was a few times

that that's happened until you learn everybody's doing a job. Everybody's got something to do. Like I said, they don't make radio records. They don't attempt to make radio records. True.

Or so rare that- They don't really make choruses often. Right. They don't attempt to make a chorus outside of their zone. It's almost like they're going against it. I get mad at Flex for saying he don't play it now i ain't gonna judge him because when we was coming up we used to say the same shit yo get y'all old niggas off the radio because y'all 50 years old y'all just out of touch y'all not listening to what we listening to you y'all ain't on the radio and getting your card and go play all

that bullshit y'all go turn diana ross on that's what we used to. Y'all ain't on the radio and getting your card and go play all that bullshit. Y'all go turn Diana Ross on. That's what we used to say. So I understand the sentiment, but I'm not with singling out just one person that don't have so much power over your career in the first place to me.

Well, I think it was two people, him and Sus one, but still. Neither one of them are gamekeepers. Correct me if I'm wrong. I could be wrong here. Didn't, uh, he did flex freestyles right he did

yeah he did the and that's where some of this stems from cause flex was making some silly ass face while he was rhyming yeah okay

cause I'm saying you calling him a gatekeeper and this that everybody can't go up there and sit there and freestyle for flex true

I think the beef that at least the internet has made out of it, I can't speak on if Conway or any of them have made out of it. Flex will be up there going crazy for whoever. But that's not true. It is kind of true. Oh, you mean on the freestyle?

Yeah, the freestyle. I'm not talking about that. Yeah, no, I'm talking about the freestyle. And when they were up there, he was kind of just stone-faced sitting there, like not even bopping his head type shit. That's what people, observers have said. But that contradicts you saying you don't care.

Like, I don't need this. I don't need Flex. If I needed you, you would be holding me back. Like, you mad because I'm not making faces and going nuts during your freestyle? Nah, but his faces was kind of. You've seen Flex go absolutely crazy way lesser bars fam I took Arce up there

and Arce was killing shit and Flex was just sitting there for a minute and I'm like afterwards he was like yo he ain't really I said so what you did your shit

and when it go out they gonna see it you don't need him to go crazy on it you did your shit I was talking about in terms of yeah it was I almost could find it it was a face that shouldn't have been made to go crazy on it? Did you shit? I was talking about in terms of, yeah,

it was, Alice could find it. It was a face that shouldn't have been made while anybody's rapping, good or not. Gotcha. Like,

it was, if I'm on your platform, I was invited to be here. Like, respect me while I'm rapping. Professionalism and all that. He was talking to his man. He was looking off to the side

almost like, like it was, it was some of that. I was talking about playing records. Right. And for Flex, if you wasn't a 1AM club, a New York club record, or being played in that 1AM set, you wasn't cracking a Funk Flex set.

That's from the G-Unit days to the Lox days, Bone Crusher, even when he jumped on Atlanta Records. J.M.? Like, Hov, Rockabella, all of that shit.

Yeah. Anything outside of that is going to have a hard time getting crack. He got on Focus late. I just, personally, this is my personal take. I don't even see getting mad at Flex today. The internet is what made y'all pop.

Y'all never needed him. And this is not a shot Flex, you're solidified. But today is so many ways to get your shit out there and pop and become successful without radio radio's damn near a dying medium today but I don't think

that that's as a rapper though you can feel like somebody's going out of their way to ignore you you still wanna be having your shit

played in New York City bro and especially if in the case of Sus1 at least you went on a major platform and said I'm one of

your favorite rappers ever but you never play my shit that's two different things that's too sensitive for me that's two different things. That's too sensitive for me. That's two different things bro. I can go on TV and say what the fuck I want

and I can go to my job and play what the fuck I want. Or you could be one of my favorite rappers and I don't like listening to your songs. Some niggas can rap but can't make a song. Or you could be one of my favorite rappers in the car and while I'm home on my personal time I have a job to do. Yo these DJs you know how many ill lyricists I can a job to do. Yo, these DJs. That's not the point.

You know how many ill lyricists, I can't listen to their music, but yeah, you got bars. Just because you can spit bars and metaphors and entendres don't mean you can make a good record. I think the bigger point is what Joe's saying, or what you mentioned earlier. This is my slot. This is my format.

This is the type of music that I have to play. I have to play Top 40 because I'm on it, whatever, five whatever five o'clock prime time i can't play not commercial music at that slot i have to bring in ratings i have to bring in uh time spent listening i have to retain audience listen i can see it see it on amp you play one bad record, you lose one or two people. Or a record they deem to be bad. Really? That's how these things work. So no, he ain't got time to go up there and play around with some shit that he don't feel. I hope I don't sound like I'm caping for Flex, because I totally get where Conway is coming from if he never singles out Flex.

He could have made that blanket statement about older DJjs in new york and how they missing the beat with some young fresh shit you could have said that fresh shit young and fresh as in young and fresh nothing's young and fresh about this man it's y'all are the damn near the same age that's not a shot talking about the audience but i But hear me out. The sound isn't, like you said, this is an older sound. It's a sound that, like you said, you fuck with it because that's your era. I like the niggas that get busy with it. That's not the young sound today. I know young people that like Griselda a lot.

I'm not saying it's still an underground. It's not a mainstream sound. It's not a popular. It is to them. That's a small portion of the pie. They're not like commercial. No, they're not. We're not talking about that.

That's what I'm, on the radio, I'm talking about commercial. Let me ask you. Everybody got a stand in there, yo. Let me ask you a question. It wouldn't be weird if Tech N9ne popped up

and started disenflex. Sure. Yeah. Why? Let me ask you a question. Wait,'t be weird if Tech N9ne popped up and started disenflexing. Sure. Yeah. Why? Let me ask you a question. Wait, answer me. Answer that first. Why?

That might not be what he, Tech N9ne is older than them, though, and been around the game way longer than them. So now if he jumps. Age is not the reason why. No, listen. No, I'm talking about his age in hip hop. In the game. Like his length in hip hop. Okay.

In the game. I'm talking about his age in hip-hop. In the game. Like his length in hip-hop, in the game. So now if you just magically was being satisfied over here, making money, being an underground hip-hop artist, and now magically you come to one of the biggest mediums in the world and say, yo, y'all not playing my shit, it would look awkward. These are street under rappers that want to be heard on the street platforms.

And technically Hot 97 is a street hip-hop platform. That's the mistake. That's not true. That's not true at all. Hot 97 is nothing. It's not a street. I don't care if you listen at 2 in the morning. It's not a street platform.

Nothing about that. Rosenberg goes out there and plays. I don't care what he plays. Hot 97 is not a street platform. That is a privately owned company that was purchased uh that purchased whatever they did have many years ago and that street they could go play every street record they want to play they can play it 24 7 you know what i mean i don't mean like that i don't mean that it's a street ran business it's definitely a privately owned company but when you start

talking about hip-hop i get what he's saying yo i get what he's saying into your into your tech nine point let me ask you this can you can you say and i'm not comparing them before everybody runs and says dumb shit can you say that they are or their sound is much much different than the locks because that's the comparison that's being made. Stop it, yo. Yeah. Stop it, yo. Yeah, okay. Would you like me to, since real quick? No, we're not arguing. I'm asking a question. Well, to answer your question, yes. What the people are saying is that they are similar to the Locks. Depends on what Jerry Locks you're talking about, too, though.

No, it don't. The Locks' first single was If You Think I'm Jiggy. No, it don't. They were making commercial records and street records. They don't make anything commercial. Which is why, but Styles P today puts out shit that's a lot closer to Griselda than he was putting out in 1998. And you don't hear Styles P on Hot 97. That's true.

True. That is true. That's it. I'm not even dignifying that from a rap fan. That's it. If you make that sound, if you want to make the underground sounding music, it's going to be underground to these platforms. You know how unfamiliar you would have to be with the locks and when they came in to make that statement? Which is why I said, which era?

The locks came in putting hooks on records, on your beat. There was joints, songs that just was street freestyles. They came in like that. Listen, the biggest locks moment of the last year

was Jadakiss rapping over Showbiz and AG's fucking next level remix, which is Griselda-esque. It is. Wait, the biggest freestyle last year was what?

I'm saying the biggest Lox moment was Jadakiss freestyling over the Showbiz and AG Next Level nighttime remix. They play that live in the club right now.

They play that in the club. Which is why I say depends on which era. Yeah, from Versus, they re-released it as a single. They did. And that is a similar sound. I'm shutting up, yo.

That is not a... Okay. Y'all ain't getting the grand rising out of me. I get both of them. What Griselda freestyle reminds you of that? What you mean? Which Griselda freestyle? Reminds you or puts you in the vein of what Jadakiss did.

Several. I don't know the names of them off the top of my head. I'm just talking about the sound. The sound is what I'm talking about. Exactly. And again, before everybody starts saying I'm saying that they rap as good as Jadakiss.

I'm not saying that either. What I'm saying is the sound is similar. I don't even hear a similar sound. Cool. And again, artists that make the underground sound, remember I told y'all, that was my beef.

That's why I don't really listen to them that much. It's that sound. Yeah, it's going to be treated as underground. Granted, it's a huge fan base that fucks with it, but it's still underground. I agree. And I don't expect them to play that yo the thing about this is the thing yo it's what they say about why ben simmons need to shoot the three even if he can't make it or try to mid-range right this is the thing and i'm about to get geeky musician for a second. But as a musician, when you're at your ceiling of limitations and you only have but so much in your toolbox,

you'll eventually have to go and learn to add. And whether you're good or bad at that, just you trying to do these other things will add a weapon for you in other instances so i guess when you say yeah they did the same thing up there one freestyle jadakiss freestyle but because jadakiss is such a swiss army knife and it's so well versed in all of these different rap variations it's gonna look different when he does it it's a master up there it's not just rhyming words over a certain sound it's control and command of an entire building of words and

silence no i'm not just throwing that on these niggas they're great rappers they have to go and figure out how to add those other things that make the flexes pay attention that make uh in uh dj envy at whatever club he used to do all of the different djs that were in nightlife that shit that shit that the locks do that made you play any style speed record that came next That's that's what I'm talking it's like an intangible thing we just tell my words and sounds I'm done. That was my rent. It's my rapper rant for the day Great rapping don't get you in every room, yo. For sure. For sure. That's true.

I agree with that. Like I said, it's a lot of great rappers. Excellent. Bars. That go. Wordsmiths. Whatever you want to call it. I don't play them, though.

I don't want to hear that shit. But I ain't even mad at Conway if he go and make a few records that he feel like Flex should have played. Damn, how'd he skip these? You could go through that over there. Yo, I'm blowing up. I'm from over here. It's getting kind of hard to ignore me. If you're not fucking with me now, it's just you're not fucking with me. You could think that, but you still got to go give it a shot

and see if you could crack that. Hip-hop fandom is built on the first time somebody hearing you, they don't fuck with you. It's how do you get through those walls from people. You think hip-hop fans is just receptive to shit? That is true.

We are, but we ain't. A lot of people that I'm a fan of, when I first heard them, I was like, nah, I'm cool. And then they made something else that wasn't like what I first heard. Yeah. And I'm like, oh shit,

now I fuck with this. I talk here all the time about my little five, six, seven song rule and how I block out radio, I block out flex, I block out certain shit because you just can't get me with that.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, whatever. I wish everybody well. Indeed. There you go. Indeed. Thoughts and prayers? Yeah, thoughts and prayers yeah thoughts and prayers everybody has

I'm gonna say this too the Griselda team is very good at drumming up some shit to get people talking this rollout I don't know if it's a rollout but I'm asking

I don't like I said during the Westside conversation in the last pod they're fans of the WWF shit so I wouldn't put it past them to be playing some shit.

That may be really how they feel. But use it to play into some... Yeah, they might be playing some shit. Got it, got it. So then how's the WWF

if they really feel like that? Because you're using them for storyline. WWF, some of them niggas hated each other. But we're going to use that for entertainment purposes. Yeah.

Then is it real or fake? It's both. I hate y'all. I hate y'all. If they really feel like that, I think it would be real. And then they trying to get a result from it, though. Yeah, but if I really feel like that, but I held it until it was beneficial to act on it, then that's where the fake part come in.

But you feel it. No, it's still real. But I'm saying the fake part, I could have been saying how I feel. Come on, let's move on. Let's move on. What do we got Dogs We got Cardi beefing

With the shade room Again Again For the second time Or third time Third time Fourth time Fifth time

Oh this has been This been an ongoing thing Oh yeah Yeah Oh see I didn't know that Her beefing with all the Blog sites really Yeah but it seemed

A little bit Like It's been more here. Yeah, well, it sounds like she has a relationship with someone over there. Listen, I'm for it. I'm anti-Shade Room. So, hey, Cardi. So you don't care what the viewers found? I don't care.

I got the Shade Room blocked. Oh, shit. They did to you, man. No, they didn't do nothing to me. I just think they're just terrible for us. i've always felt that about the shade room so what's your name i don't like focusing on negativity yeah i was just gonna say that i don't like the these focus on negativity yeah they got their little positive posts here and there, but anything I see that pops up or I see people running with, it's the negativity.

And it seems like they lean into it. It's kind of like my beef with the way love and hip hop used to be. Same thing. TMZ. TMZ does both. Yeah, they do. Yeah, yeah, they do.

I just think that in society, the salacious shit just grabs more attention. It's true. So if you're running a business, the negativity shit is going to push more than the positivity. Negativity spreads faster. Generating money. But for me, I feel like if I don't consume anything from them, because I've seen people go on the shade room and then be stuck there for just reading and back and forth. I don't want to see it.

So, like I said, if she's taking down the shade room, Cardi, you got my support. Well, her main beef appears to be

that she was getting quote unquote shadow banned, right? Like the comments. They muted her. Yeah. So she couldn't comment. That's a new,

no, no, no, that's a new feature. They didn't, they didn't mute her. They restricted her. So whereas,

she still sees her comment there but nobody else does and that's where the sucker shit came in if you ask me because they made it seem like nah nah nah we still fuck with you this that and the third and she's like well i'm posting this but somebody else screenshot i was like no this is what they did look let me show you how it works and then I started to see that gaslighting word thrown around again and then that's when I checked out yeah I'm just

tired of that word but um she had a she had a well we ain't got her I think I think it's suckershit on their behalf

hiding her shit yeah like if you gonna talk about me and you gonna make money off of me at least give me the um opportunity to address it

you get what I'm saying for you to mute my tweet I mean mean, my comment only, I think that's cowardly. See, now you're going to make me cape for the shame room. It's my platform. You have a bigger platform than me. So if you want to go and address something,

you go and put it on your Instagram page. I disagree. I don't have to let you comment on me. Sure. On my platform. And that's why I said this. I think it's Carol Ian Sucker shit. You don't have to.

Yeah. But if you're going to make money about talking about me, then at least give me the opportunity in which to speak on it. You have it. You have a huge goal. You could say something

in the entire world hearing. Cool. You got way more reach than me. I don't know about that, but. Cardi B has way more reach than the Shade Room. No, in a literal sense. Yeah, but. No, in every sense.

I disagree, but it's cool. You can disagree. How do you disagree with that? Because everybody that goes to the Shade Room on a daily basis don't necessarily check Cardi B's page on a daily basis. Let me finish. There are people that go to the Shade Room every single day specifically for the negativity. Right? on a daily basis don't necessarily check cardi b's page on a daily basis let me finish there are people that go to the shade room every single day specifically for the negativity right cool so they may not go to cardi b page every day even if she might got 30 million followers they may not do

that but you don't have 30 million i'm just giving i'm just throwing a number out i'm just saying so shady she might have double their followers but people might not necessarily go to their page every single day looking for the bullshit that they go to the Shade Rooms page looking for. So allow me the opportunity in which to address it or speak on it. That's just my opinion. Okay. Now, if Cardi B says anything, it goes everywhere. You can't avoid it. I don't follow Cardi B or the Shade Room.

Guess what? I've seen this whole exchange. Why? Not because the Shade Room said something. Because Cardi said something. That's what I mean. She is going... You got a bigger platform.

They're going to cover whatever you say everywhere. You can't escape it. Cool. So, yeah, go address it. I guess. I guess. Do you think she has the power to get rid of the shade room? No.

I hope she did. I wish she did, though. I'm with it. Get them out of here. Too late for that. Yeah, no, they're too big. And not for nothing, it's too many of these people in bed with them. Like, they're a major player now.

For sure. So, yeah, you ain't going nowhere. And there's a million other ones like it. Another one a major player now. For sure. Yeah, you ain't going nowhere. And there's a million other ones like it. Another one will pop up tomorrow. If they left, another one will just

grow stronger and pop up tomorrow and start doing the same shit. Because damn, they go hire their staff. You know what I'm saying? Do the same thing. And I think after that

Tasha K situation, a lot of these blogs are playing, they running past legal, making sure, hey, can I say this? Can I do this?

Can I do that? Like they covering their asses. So I don't think she really has much power over them, but I just like to see that. Got my support, Cardi. You got any thoughts on this? No, I hate that I have to.

No. Me too. No, not at all. I'm with you. I'm with you. I don't really fuck with the shade room and that's that. I just don't ever say it

because then I would be doing what Conway did to Flex that I didn't like. Singling them out when it's the wrong room. Yeah, I just, because my problem is not specifically

Yo, hold up. What the fuck? I don't know. It's so. Fam. Wow. What was i saying it's not just them it's not shade room specifically that whole culture it's the culture that i have a problem with blog culture uh and it's not blog culture it's a specific type of blog culture correct that uh builds an audience off of this type of bullshit like my conway thing would be hey shade room niggas do 30 billion positive things y'all skip all that and post every negative thing of every

black male that you could possibly find but But, just say that every day. It's fine. And you know what else? Because you know why it's done. Everybody has a job to do. Correct. They got a job to do as well.

And not just that. Like I said, the money is generated from negativity. It ain't really generated from positivity. And on top of that, after what you said,

it just made me think. Like, my beef with the shade room necessarily is because they're the biggest one. Yeah, they're just the biggest one. my beef with the shade room necessarily is because they're the biggest one yeah they're just the biggest they're just the biggest one so they're the bigger target that's all that is because it's a whole like you said it's a whole bunch of them out there that do the same shit for sure but they the name that get attached to it it's kind of like not for nothing it's kind of like when i used to troll and people used to get upset over like artists and shit You see my name in your mentions a million times

but I'm not the one saying the fucked up shit. I'm just saying I didn't like this. Other people are really getting disrespectful. They're adding on to it but you keep seeing me because I'm the bigger one.

Because for me it's not the brand it's the brand that it's who the brand attracts. Like I can't get mad at the shade room. They just monetizing off the shit that people give them. They blur out the curse word.

They blur out your Twitter name. They'll fake a text exchange. They'll fake a skit. Anything, and y'all just run to it. Eat it right up. So I avoid it because I know who the y'all is that's running to it. That's not a knock to the shave room, right? You got to understand branding about everywhere in life.

Ah, case in point. Last week on the blog, something popped up. It said Big Fendi and Tory Lanez have a talk about a naked pool party. I click on it. I know Big Fendi. I know Tory Lanez. Click on it. Fendi's saying, yo yo this weekend it's going down

big pool party private location it's going to be nudity everywhere and then uh tori got weird it's like nudity yo what you mean what you mean and then fendi hung up on him so i laughed i thought that was funny because if you know that fendi's brand yeah then there's nudity there absolutely and if you also know his brand, might be some other things going on there. That's my man. And I don't go to them shits. It's branding.

Right. Sure enough, Monday morning, flashing across the news. I'm waking up in bed. Had a long Sunday night. Gunshots ring off at the pool party. I said, nigga, this better not. I swear to God, better not. Glen Cove, private location.

There was a rap, but they put Fendi face on the screen of the news. Oh, shit. I said, man. I turned to get up. I turned to ESPN and some shit. But I said, see. I turned to get up. I turned to ESPN and some shit. But I said, see? Branding. Not to say that that's not Fendi's fault, of course.

No. And hopefully everybody's all right. I didn't see any casualties, fatal casualties anyway. But that's what casualty means. I think casualty can be an injury too. I don't think so. I think. Is that what casualty means. I think casualty can be an injury, too. I don't think so. Three words. I think.

Three words. Is that a casualty? That's what it goes. I think casualty can be an injury. I don't think so. It's a person killed. Yeah, I think it's a person. Or injured.

Or injured. Or accident. Yeah, it could be an injury. Yeah. Casualty sounds a lot worse than. It does. You got hurt. Then you got injured.

Still a casualty Yeah That's true Anyway That was my shade room take Okay I'm with Ice Bring him down

But now But like It ain't just You know I want my audience to know That I hate talking about All of this shit yo I hate it

We all do I hate that y'all care about it I hate that it's important Somehow All this shit is a distraction I hate it That's where I am Soon as something happens Yo y'all care about it. I hate that it's important somehow. All this shit is a distraction. I hate it. That's where I am. Soon as something happens,

yo, y'all got to talk about this. Like, why? Let's talk about the new picture of the universes. Yeah. You know what I mean? Let's talk about that. Stars. Hey.

I'll see the picture, man. They told y'all that was stars. Wait, what was the way it happened? NASA came out with a new telescope. Some new stars. They took a picture of the universes. You can see all these with stars. Wait, what was the way it happened? NASA came out with a new telescope and they took a picture of the universes. You can see all these little universes. It looks like bacteria or something. Nah, hold up.

No, no, no. Look at his face. No, no, it gets better. They said the area that they looked at was the equivalent of holding one grain of sand at arm's length. What? So that picture you see,

that's what they looked at. And they saw all of this in length. What? So that picture you see, that's what they looked at. And they saw all of this in there. What? I'm confused. Can someone explain this to me? NASA has a new telescope that they launched, I forget when it launched,

a couple years ago. But it's supposed to be, the Hubble telescope was like the farthest seeing shit we had. Now it's this James Webb telescope, which it can go, it can see way, way, way. It makes the Hubble telescope look like preschool shit. This is the big boy. So they released the first images that they took from it.

And this is the first image. And they were saying that the area that they looked at was the equivalent of holding one grain of sand at arm's length. So that's how small it is they looked and they saw all of this. And they saw a lot. I call it bullshit, but you know. This would matter more to us if Bosco did it.

If we put some air quotes, some quotes. Phil, I hear you, man. I know. You think it's all phony? Hell yeah. I don't believe none of this. They telling us anything now.

Like, yo, yo, that's all the galaxies out there. I just wonder how much that shit cost. That's just, that's how Zav came out. This is universe Zav. Nigga was on Zav. This is Sky Zav.

Nigga was out there for real. Nigga was on Zav Zav. Hi, hi. Yeah, I've seen that before. Universe Nigga was on This is Skyzall Nigga was out there for real High high Yeah I've seen that before I actually saw that before Yeah Back when I was trying to get the little Vision thing

And I was staring at the light bulb too much And pulled back And blinked I saw the same shit You will see that Exact same shit No bullshit That is true

It was moving and everything Same shit I been had the James Webb telescope Man y'all late Oh man It was moving and everything. Same shit. I've been had the James Webb telescope, man. It got late. Oh, man. Congrats. Yeah.

Congrats to Ness. Is there aliens yet? We the aliens. Why we ain't been back to the moon? Ta-da. Would you like to know their reasoning that we haven't been back to the moon yeah okay so they said when we went to the moon it was a

completely barren empty lifeless rock so they said they don't want to keep wasting resources going there when they've already went there saw it was nothing there so now let's go somewhere else resources as in capital it cost a lot of money to get these rockets and send these astronauts up there one one space suit is 12

million dollars who makes the money they make the money oh i get what you're saying so what they spending not just that in a budget in a governmental budget every year nasa gets xyz billions and billions and billions of well now it, now it's Space Force. Yeah, I know. Yes. You got to be careful. Neil deGrasse Tyson got on Joe's ass about that.

And he explained Space Force to me. It's necessary. We need Space Force. We need that shit for real. We need Space Force. No, no, no. When you start really looking at...

Space Force ain't running around looking for aliens. So y'all went to the moon in 79 or what year was that? Let me ask you a question. 69. Niggas ain't going to... Yo, let me ask you a question. 69. Niggas ain't going to the moon. Yo, let me ask you a question right now.

And just was like, oh, that was cool. And never went back. Look. Hey, first time I went to Turks. You know what I said? Oh, I will be back here. Well, there was no hoes coming back. There's no hoes on the moon, Joe.

Now, the flip side. Oh, the fucking moon. The first time I went to Chester, PA. What do you think? They went up there and was like, yo, ain't no bitches up here? I'm out. Yeah. But look, the first time I went to Chester, PA, I said, I'm never coming up there and was like, yo, ain't no bitches up here? I'm out. Yeah. But look,

the first time I went to Chester, PA, I said, I'm never coming back here again. So that could be how they look at it. You said you're never going back to New York

and you're living out there. I said Chester, PA. Let me ask you a question. How was the flag waving? What flag? The wind was blowing. Ain't no wind. They brought some wind.

What flag? You talking about the one Steve Spielberg put up there? Yeah, that one. The one that stuck in the quote unquote moon. They stuck in the moon. How was the flag going like flag? You talking about the one Steve Spielberg put up there? Yeah that one The one that stuck in the Quote unquote moon That they stuck in the moon

How was the flag going like that? You talking about This the M. Night Shalahan moon Ain't no gravity Ain't no wind I'm playing everything On M. Night Shalahan Ain't no wind

Ain't no gravity How the fuck was the flag Fluttering? The moon I'll just tell you They ain't been to no moon Niggas in Hollywood Fuck you talking about So everybody here Believe they never went to the moon? I believe ain't been to no moon Niggas in Hollywood Fuck you talking about

So everybody here Believe they never Went to the moon I believe They never went to the moon They took off From Cape Canaveral And went

Why does the takeoff Spot matter It matters I don't want to get Into it But it matters Tell me Put me on to something

President Joe Biden Unveiled this image Of galaxy cluster S-M-A-C-S-O-7-2-3. Conveniently, the day his son's Coke binges leak. No, no. Yo, yo, never mind. Never mind. Yo, put this shit out, man. Come on.

He got this from the Bogota. He got that from the Bogota. Oh, man. That's funny. What y'all think they're selling the bogota them images right there them pictures right next to little gas station dick pill oh man yo hunter biden's having a time yeah i ain't mad at him though yo somebody get that man his phone back why they leaking all this shit out his phone yo that's crazy yes hunter biden's iphone was hacked and somebody is

going crazy with shit he got in his phone he seems to get he seems to suffer from the same thing i suffer and be punished from not deleting things out of your phone some of this shit they had a video of him going away some crack and arguing about it. Nah, because the chick was like, nah, that ain't 20 grand or whatever it was

and he was like, nah, watch. And he put it on the scale. Nah, y'all. But why are you recording yourself doing this?

See, and this is weird. If Donald Trump wasn't Donald Trump, he'd be funny. Because now that's funny. Where's Hunter? Where's his son?

They was hiding out. Well, it was the report saying they was hiding his son during the campaign no the crazy shit is this yo you don't judge them fucking don't judge them y'all y'all parents now hope their friends don't run into some of y'all in the street. But you the same motherfucker that be dissing niggas for doing what your son doing. You bastard. Yeah. The nigga held up a rock and was like, yo, this piece of crack

is worth five years. No parole. No this, no that. We gotta get them away from our kids. That's your kids. That's your kids. Your kids the one that... That's your kids. Fuck you talking about, man. Man, I'm hating on this.

I don't know if my dad and them ever did this shit. The type of high crack usage is... The type of fucking savvy high crack usage is this. They wasn't in the projects weighing some shit. You took what was in the bag and that was that. Yeah, you pull a scale out if you want, man. His room is a mess. Yeah,

what is up with this nigga, yo? He's high. He is a freak ass nigga. He could be getting high somewhere else. He getting high in the Jets. You see that carpet? What the fuck

is you talking about? Nah, if he starts selling that shit in the street calling it White House. Bro, the drawer is broken on the driveway.

Yo, what the fuck is you talking about, my nigga? That's crackhead shit. He ain't got a shave or a haircut. Nothing. He got some crack, though.

Why are you recording? He got crack and hoes. Joe Biden. Joe Biden. And some nice hoes. Yo, you gotta get some props. You got a couple nice hoes up the angle.

Hold you. Joe Biden, Kirk Franklin, that nigga. Why is that video him doing crack? That's what I don't get. Why was he videotaping all this shit? Kirk Franklin that nigga why does it video him doing crack that's what I I don't get why was he videotaping

all this shit and why does Ish wanna have sex with the girls that were doing crack with him did you see a girl doing crack

asshole yeah shut up yo Scott I don't know your man is nuts you ever been with a girl that did crack I hope not

oh y'all don't know I don't know I ain't never seen that Coke yes Like knowingly She did the crack Yeah for sure Coke

But crack I don't know She pulled a crack pipe out I gotta go I ain't gonna hold you You gotta go You home Oh then she gotta go

Get that shit out of here She don't wanna leave No she's leaving You gonna put it in the street She gotta go I don't care Do not You gotta go Ice The crack away Now and again She don't want to leave. No, she's leaving. You're going to put her in the street? She got to go. I don't care. Do not.

You got to go. Aye, aye. Good crack away now and again. You getting out my crib. You getting out my crib. I'm mad you even know where I live now. How you think bitches were getting skinny before lipo? Coke.

Which is in? Coke was different, though. Hunter Biden's iPhone. Yo, get this off my screen, please. I don't want to look at this no more. That's how Ishby would defeat. Yo. That was really wild.

Oh, yeah, Joe. Joe. Joe. I went and did my due diligence. I listened to that Brent album. My man. I'm here to tell you You were bugging That album goes

Oh no it does go When y'all say where it goes It's a difference I can tell you exactly where it went The track Nah The track That's why you called it Wasteland?

That's what you getting at Yo you stupid Right in the waistband Nah Nah I was like I don't know what And the record you played I didn't like that first one

Which was the The first one Yeah Not good But the other two was alright Fam this album went You hear Ish still talking about two songs No

Y'all don't hear him No you played three songs He's saying the first song You played was wack The other two songs We asked you to go listen To Brent's album The other two songs

That you played were okay Is what he's saying No, well yeah When you played those But I said I went and listened To the entire project And I was like Oh nah

This, yeah You love it Yeah, I love this But why do that mean I'm bugging? Because you love it. Because you made it seem like this shit was ass. No, I came in here and said how I felt about this project. And I was like, I didn't know what you heard.

I wasn't trying to convince anybody else on how to feel. Oh, you know, I relate to that. Yeah, I'm not trying to convince nobody how to feel. They've been in my mentions. All little robots hit me and was telling me I was bugging. Fam, they've been... They little robots hit me and was telling me I was bugging fam they been they still they still cursing

me out about Thor little robot not like the normal use of talking about robots you little I'm not leaving

shit you hey you all you niggas being paid to tweet some shit You little b****. Let's just leave it, man. I'm not leaving shit, you b****. Hey, all you n****s being paid to tweet some shit. Nah, that's facts. Little paid b****. That is true. Get the fuck out of here. Well, they're not even people.

Yeah. That's an auto-tweet. Ice, we also know that when it come to some music, me and you just ain't going to never see eye to eye. Absolutely. Absolutely. Like, that's true. That's true. You like, you be, you, see, you, you down gonna never see eye to eye. Absolutely. Absolutely. Like, that's true. That's true. You like, you be, you, see, you,

you down with these Brent ****. Yo, I'm not. You kind of are. No, I'm not, though. Because you go find some obscure nigga offbeat with a wild, then be like, yo, this that shit right here. And I be like, what the fuck is that? Nigga, you the king of finding the obscure R&B nigga.

I said obscure offbeat. He had offbeat on every record. Shit, that nigga's horrible. He's horrible, yo. This album was good. I thought it was alright. I ain't hate it. I ain't love it.

I'm probably not going to play it again, but this is not my genre. That's your politically correct way of saying, I ain't doing this with y'all. Get me out of here. I'm happy that he's doing well. I'm happy that this is selling. I'm happy y'all like it. But this is selling. I'm happy y'all like it. But this is bad. This is some bullshit on here.

I went back to make sure. And you're standing in the same. It's doubled down. That shit is a 19 pack of ass. Yeah, we just gotta agree to this. Hey, Alex, I ain't even talk to you about it. What you think, man? I know that's your man.

Yeah, I'm still rocking. You know? I'm still rocking. I can tell you my favorites right now. Rolling Stone. You know. Loose Change. It's all right.

Yo, Joe, relax. What's up with you, man? I took your name two songs out of 19. That might be the worst music review that I've ever heard in my life. That's you liking it. What's up with you, man? I took your name two songs out of 19. That might be the worst music review that I've ever heard in my life. He said, it was my favorite. That's you liking it. It's all right.

I mean, I'm not trying to sway anyone. Just like how I said last week, Nah, it ain't about swaying. You know, it's for me. It ain't about swaying. Niggas gonna like what they like, and that's fine. But,

shout out to him, because I was there. I was there, man. And you, I said, I was here I was here Did you hear him? I heard him Did you hear him? I heard him You heard it too, huh? I heard it

See, y'all ears is broke. You just got your eyes fixed. I got to get the ears mixed? You got to get them shits checked the fuck out. You got to get the earwax candles or what? Alex, you heard it? Nah, look, play Rolling Stone. All right, but listen to this, though.

Shorty, it's only you and me. Fuck is you talking about? Yeah, I live here in me Baby Oh no That shit is, I feel you I feel you I feel you on that particular joint

There's nothing they can tell me I feel you on that particular joint Yo, I'ma fight this I feel you on that particular joint. There's nothing they can tell me. I feel you on that particular joint. Yo, I'm going to fight this. Yo, I feel you on that particular song. I like the tune that you played last week. Besides that one. That one is bad. I don't know what was going on with that.

I'm good. Brand album good. All right, I got you. This is one of your favorite joints. Hold up. This shit, I was jamming. I like the second half of Press of Fame. That was my favorite shit.

I'll bump this in the sound cabin. So I can hear all the instruments in this fine beat, huh? Exactly. What's that, an accordion? Oh, shit. See, that's what it is. He don't like his voice. Here we go. All right.

What's left of us? What's left of our lives? It's only you. It's only me. It's only us at the end of the night. I remember when you could hear me. He's in key in this one. That's how I know Ice Lyon. His head nod is off beat.

He can't even catch this shit. Erickson, zoom in on Ice next. Don't zoom in on any John Ice. He's in key, though. He's in key this time. And when you got to say that, I'm going to pass. Hell no. Shout out to Brett. Shout I'm going to pass, yo. Hell no. Shout out to Brett.

Shout out to him. I like Brett. I like him personally, too. And I wish him well. But y'all better get off my dick. And, hey, maybe two things are true. Hey, maybe I'm the old nigga that just got to stay away from this. Could be. Could be.

Could be. Sometimes when you used to go in the mall, they'd have somebody playing a piano. And sometimes it wasn't tuned. That ain't stop you niggas

from shopping. That ain't stop you niggas from shopping That ain't stop you niggas from surrounding the Piano that you didn't know needed to be tuned He was like oh shit looks fine tonight There you go Throw they little money in the case Keep it pushing There you go Oh my god

Everybody don't have Ewan Park's ears Thank you Yeah For sure Sometimes he be in key Nah that shit was out of key When y'all started laughing I didn't know what y'all was laughing at Nah that shit was out of key

Like a motherfucker They said fuck it I don't be knowing about the keys Yeah I don't know The key out of key I just know some shit You're trying to find the key I'm good

I guess we'll just take The auto-tune off I guess He lost his keys Yeah They was in the car I don't know about if something

I don't care about that shit shit makes me sick to my stomach oh my god no no I'll play it for you just cause it's you.

Because niggas was really like, yo, Brim, what the fuck, what are you, bitches? Like, they was not like. Never was it, oh, maybe he's not all the way in tune. No, some niggas was saying it was trash. Some niggas saying it was hot. All right. This is my guy, J. I can light that thing. Hey.

Let's go, Alex. On Long Island, stand up. Westchester, stand up. Oh my God, J, I could light that thing. Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy If I hurt you, would you leave? I learned a game from some heavyweights Catching buses, making change from another blade I still got demons from my younger days I wish I could shake them, but they follow me I wish I could take it easy, but the fans watch That's my mama, I've been hustling since the sandbox I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I is me. You telling me that this is Joe. It's me? Yeah. No, you gotta get your ears tuned.

That was bad to you? The first verse was bad? Or are you saying I'm sorry was bad? That sucks, Joe. The stacks. The stacks is not what he... This would probably be dope if the dentist

is running late like if you just gotta sit there and you read the whole newspaper already front to back cover to cover

it's like gear up for the pain of the drilling that's gonna happen yeah nah that shit probably do sound good if you stuck for the pain of the drilling that's going to happen. Yeah. Nah, that shit probably do sound good if you stuck on an airplane

with 50 crying, screaming babies. Terrible. Terrible. Terrible joke. Jesus, Mary and Joseph. God damn. It wasn't bad to me

Nah this shit wasn't bad That last one wasn't terrible I know Moving on That first one though He still ain't listening to the album He would come in Hit podcast

Two records though Listen man I don't really know what you hear The way it was He put it together Nigga You ain't listen to this shit But when you just played it

That wasn't bad No Anyway Alright moving on man What's going on at these festivals Nigga, you ain't listening to this shit. But when you just played it, that wasn't bad. No, no. Anyway. All right, moving on, man. What's going on at these festivals? They fighting. I'm watching all festivals online from now on. I'm cool.

It's probably a safe maneuver. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We've seen Roddy Ricch fight. Yeah. Why he was trying to kick him like that? I don't know what's going on with these festivals. Cardi had a fight. Yeah. See. He was trying to kick him like that. I don't know what's going on with these festivals.

Cardi had a fight. Cardi Fossum or people were fighting at her show. No. She. She swung. She did not fight

somebody. Look how you lie in the fucking media. You're the shade room. You are the shade room. I'm the shade room. You're the icy room. Icy room.

Frozen room. Pool. No shade. Shady ice. The cooler. All'm the ice room. Yeah, you the icy room. Icy room. Frozen room. Pool. No shade. Shady ice. The cooler. Cooler. All right, guys. All right, we got this.

Wow. Yo. Not like a fight, but she was involved? Oh, you Tekashi now. All right. Oh, you just turned. God damn, yo. What if Snitches get stitches?

She was involved. I don't know nothing Wow I don't know nothing Who else was there Spies get eyes Was Hennessy there Yo Who was Hennessy there Yo you stupid

Tell them what happened I don't fucking know What happened I saw a bunch of I saw a fight At Erica Badu concert I don't fucking know what happened I saw a bunch of I saw a fight at Erykah Badu concert I don't think Erykah was fighting Yeah Oh somebody tried to grab the mic

Somebody tried to grab the mic from her And she took it back She gave him some pow pow It was her mic I mean She just took her mic I like the way he explained that Yeah Yeah she took it back

That's all They was rocking at the Erykah Badu concert. Listen, there's something in the air. Something's somewhere. We don't better sign too long, yo. I don't know who the performers were in the videos I saw, because I don't know none of y'all no more. Listen, I made the screen big.

I can't recognize any of y'all. I don't... Who are all of y'all niggas, y'all? Hey! Who is this? All you niggas look like little caricatures of one another with a bunch of chains and designer shit on. Oh, man.

Why you need the kick? You shouldn't have kicked. All I know is... They should get better security these damn shows. Security been fucking you fans up. Nah, that's a fact. They've been clotheslining y'all off the stage. Yo, that's what I don't understand, though.

Like, football tackles, drop kicks. We all know some security niggas, right? Yeah. They can't wait for this shit to happen. Facts. They love it. Like, I'm talking about anywhere from a club to anywhere. They love for somebody to step out of line and give them an excuse to whoop some ass.

Yeah, I seen the one where Homeboy got thrown. I forgot who was performing, but he got thrown like 10 feet off that motherfucking stage. Like, why are you trying security there for a reason, my nigga? They're going to fuck you up. Maybe people think they can get a lawsuit out of this. They probably can. It's a sad thing. Nah, I don't think they think that they're going to get their ass whooped that much.

If Roddy Ricch kicked me, and I'm a fan, I'm suing your ass. I don't care if your leg ain't butt so damn long. I'm suing your ass. He didn't have to kick him. No, he didn't have to kick him. No, he didn't have to kick him. That was unnecessary. You got the security for a reason.

Nigga, you made the box. Go sing the fucking box. I don't understand these fucking rappers and these fans. Stupid ass fans. Oh, sad face. Dirk didn't get through customs again. I was like... Yo, what's wrong with you, yo?

I don't want wanna talk about rap Ever again Well the fans love rap Joe So they sad they couldn't see Their favorite rapper When something happened They paid their money To see this person Alright Ice let's play a game

Okay what's up Let's play You work customs And you got a baby And you got a baby Okay, what's up? Let's play You Work Customs. And you got a baby. And you got a baby. You want to play or not? You win.

Hey. I know what happened if I worked at Customs. There wouldn't be no wireless. oh shit none of you go home oh y'all as a matter of fact put your head behind your back i ain't even a cop yo you coming with me yo come here i heard that song oh shit i'm like the court Yo I heard that lyric Use your nigga lyrics man

Holy shit Dirk said it's all cap Oh my god It's not the truth anyway so Oh I'm talking shit man Oh that's funny though That was funny Stupid yo

Oh man Oh shit Wireless was three weekends Three weekends Y'all went to London when he stupid yo oh man oh shit wireless was three weekends three weekends y'all went to London and showed y'all ass

out there I got the calls I know what y'all was doing yeah I can't say Hunter Biden Hunter Biden hunting tigers

I mean you know you out of town have some fun London been looking real lit these last seven years damn nice little this last 42 years

looks great on a little run hey Geechee told hollow I put the Don in a box 1942

come on yo come on talk about some shit y'all see the battles nah I saw some I didn't watch that one I watched T-Rock go up there.

And T-Rock. Yeah. Oh, shit. I'm telling you, that's the best entertainment you'll buy for $50 or whatever it costs. Or if you know a battle rapper. Family, shit is free on caffeine. Yeah, but you got to subscribe to caffeine. I do.

No, you don't even. You just sign up. That's it? Yeah. Oh, I thought I was paying them niggas. No. You just sign up. And you can watch them live. You just can't Yeah That's it Yeah I thought I was paying them niggas No You just sign up And you can watch them live You just can't watch the replay

Yeah no replays Yeah Oh Yeah but Saturday was a nice day So I was busy Oh okay I had to catch So you used the app

To watch the Or like you said Or Norbattler Yeah Oh shit Yeah I'll get back to My Gnome review

Yeah I want to watch Thenome review Yeah I wanna watch The rest of them But I did watch Leave him alone Who? T-Roc When he Get into that bag

Just Leave him alone K-Sean killed my man Sick He was on there? I didn't see that I came in late Yeah he was on there? I didn't see that I came in late Yeah he was on there

That's what I asked about Ice was like He ain't I ain't get it Yeah Oh It was that bad? You got the

Funeral voice on? I cut it off Sheesh Damn You lying Nah nah I cut it off Cause that shit right on you

And killed my man in front of me I can't help him Type of on you. I killed my man in front of me. I can't help him. Type of nigga you think I am. Sitting home helpless. I can't help him. That nigga was up there getting his ass chewed up. Well, let me shoot him some bail.

And then we'll leave this. Nigga Hollow had a nice Christian bail line, too. That was some good shit. Getting there. I'll say this greed man you get hot phone start ringing a lot you want to show up a lot that involves writing there's a lot of battling your name get hot some of the veterans don't like it and now you're the yankees you're getting everybody's best game so that's what's been happening with sick he's been taking a lot of battles with not a lot of writing time against killers and they don't maybe like his meteoric rise or they do like it and want to end it like you get props for ending runs like that and k shine is dna's man and dna beats

sick so he probably gave him the blueprint and some pointers and shit and honestly this k shine that showed up he don't lose this is the k shine that This is the K-Shine from that first round against Surf where I thought Surf was about to have, I thought Surf was dying in front of me until Surf wrapped. Ooh, thank God. Thank God, my man. I had some bars too, yo. Because that shit, hey, just go back and watch K-Shine round one against Surf, yo.

And tell me you didn't think Surf was about to die. Tsunami Surf. There ain't nothing wavy about. Oh, whoa. Whoa, no. That's my man.

Don't do that. Don't do that. You can't even react to it if that's your man. You gotta. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen a couple of them.

That was the case, Sean. That nigga flipped six so many times. Oh, man. Great. Wait, what he said? Oh, I don't remember. It was too much shit. I want to see that.

You still got it? Yeah. Yeah, pass that. I'll pass that. Yeah. I need to see that. Because when Sean- He was animated.

Yeah, when he get super animated. He don't really lose if he like this. It's hard. My thing is, he just don't always be like this. Correct. But when he like this, look, the nigga look great. Lost weight. He's in shape.

Like, look at him. I'm not battling that nigga right now. You shitting me? No. I'm hot as fish grease, Ari. I'm hanging up the phone on that. Boom. Not to come to know him, though.

Yeah. You going to take that. You can't go up against him. You going to take that. No, I'm not. You got tonome, though. Yeah. You're going to take that. And go up against him. You're going to take that. No, I'm not. You got to level up. No. Yeah.

At the best presentation of yourself. Gnome is Gnome. It's one of the biggest events. It'll be there next year. When I show up, I have to show up as the best me. This nigga done took 90 battles in the last three months. That's a mistake a lot of battles make. And then he said it in the round.

Just when you was thinking it, he said it in the round just when you was thinking it he said it you've been writing for me for months i've been writing for two weeks well nigga why the fuck are you on the stage that's a mistake we've seen a lot of battle you nice but you playing with gorillas now these ain't the same play play the same you take too many battles back to back. The PGs. Yeah, Proving Grounds. Oh my God. Yeah, what...

Hey, the next break we take, I'm going to go ahead and cut it off for you. Because that's my man. I ain't get to hear the third round. I was not staying for the rest of that. Sick, I love you. And I think you rhyme better than all these niggas, but chill.

The bag be calling. The niggas run to it. In the Halo-Gichi battle that's what Halo brought up as well in his last round. He said you take every fucking battle.

I bumped into him in Madison Square Garden he said he had to battle tonight. I said wait he said here I said wait he said not. Oh no he said I bumped into him

At the house part He said he was battling At house parties Yeah he said He was about to battle At the house party I'm fucking and lying up But yeah these new niggas

They just take too many battles And you tell somebody To turn away Turn away that money You get hot 20,000 20,000 in a night 30. You get hot. 20,000 in a night. 30,000 in a night. 40,000 in a night.

I got mad nights in the year. For real. And I could write some shit. Try to mail it in and go get that 50. Well, that's what

we've seen happen. That's when you see the stumbles. I don't even have time to really perfect this because I'm just coming off the last battle. Now I'm on this battle

and then right after this I got another one. Geechee got busy. Geechee lost. Really? Word? This ain't word. Like that ain't,

yeah, he lost. But his third round was crazy. His third round was crazy. But he lost. He lost his battle. I had T-Rock winning, J.C. winning, Hollow winning, T-Rock winning. Did I say T-Rock already? No JC went in hollow went in T rock when it

does say they were no matter Jaycee Jaycee Jaycee T rock case shine how hollow but anyway shots of them fellas man I love that watching I'm getting more into it now I used to just watch surf or like my Jersey niggas Right Now I just watch this shit now This shit is I couldn't do it Those niggas are different At all They just a different level of creative

They control the crowd The real good ones And the memory shit They control the crowd Remember all that shit Theatrics Yeah That part

Theatrics I gotta watch the Danny battle I didn't see it I didn't see that one yet Alright Danny Myers The white kid No No no no The black guy I gotta watch the Danny battle I didn't see it I didn't see that one yet Alright Danny Myers The white kid No

No no no The black guy We'll tell you later The white boy dope You don't always have to not know Like live Stupid Y'all wanna touch that?

Gillian on Rick Ross It's not really a story here What he said? I guess when The back story here is on one of them videos, maybe it was the Wayne, Lil Wayne video. I don't know because I'm not watching this shit. Ross left a comment under one of the posts that Gilly didn't like in his new podcast.

He's responding to it. That's the story. I don't know why they're saying to sneak this. He didn't sneak this. He didn't sneak this. It was very direct. I don't have anything

to say about this, but I will tell Gilly is that Ross is buying all those animals and shit for tax purposes. For tax purposes. Absolutely. Farming.

That's it. Farming. There's no way for us to know that over here with no farms. That's it. Farming. There's no way for us to know that over here with no farms.

Niggas got farms in Jersey, man. Oh, in Jersey, in Jersey, in Jersey. And in western Jersey. Niggas be doing the bees and all that shit. Yeah, and none of you niggas ever try to go half on a farm. Shut up. What? We like different heifers it's cool though

yo it's cool though don't look at me you gotta find a way to do something about that I ain't say that shit no you good what y'all think about

Mario so I've never bet against him again oh word but he's been riding high off of the verses naturally Mario so I've never bet against him again oh word but he's been riding high off of the versus

naturally which he should be yeah and so he announced this Friday he has a single dropping and the single features Tory Lanez

the second he announced that it was like the entire wave just how dare you they pulled up his old tweets whose old tweets Mario They pulled up his old tweets. Whose old tweets?

Mario's. What was his old tweet? He said something along the lines of, even though I know Tory personally, this is crazy to hear that this happened. You got to protect black women, something like that, to that effect. And people are upset that he's doing this record.

Yeah, there's his old tweet. This. Redacted. he's doing this record. Yeah, there's his old tweet. This Redacted. This situation got me in awe. Sad as fuck. Knowing Tory personally, this shit crazy to me. Black men, we gotta learn

how to control our ego, anger, etc. At some point, the switch gotta turn off. Protect black women, heal black men, love and respect each other. So that's the tweet.

And people are upset that you're now promoting the single with Tory Lanez. Show me pictures of the people. Yeah. I want to see. What school do they go to? Where do they work? Where do they live? Do they have both their parents?

Do they have siblings? Do they have kids? Do they have money? Are they broke? Do they drive? Do they take the train? Do they live? Do they have both their parents? Do they have siblings? Do they have kids? Do they have money? Are they broke? Do they drive? Do they take the train? Do they Uber?

Were they a part of that fucking DoorDash scam the other day? Do they come outside? Yeah, I want to see them. I'm done. I'm done with that. I'm done with they. Not pronoun they. And not the group they.

You good. You good. Hey, brother. You got're done with some days. You good. Hey, brother. You got to stay on your toes. You good. Yeah, but that day. Yeah, people was upset though. I'm done with that day.

Them niggas ain't never listened to no fucking Mario on the first place. And I saw a lot of that. Like, all this love y'all giving him now is fake. His last song was with Chris Brown. Love that song. it's bop y'all ain't see y'all say shit and that's just a time there was nothing wrong with the tweet either no no if that's his man this is a black man holding another black man accountable correct and pulling him, not in a malicious sounding, nasty sounding way. I agree.

And maybe, just maybe, he went and got some information or had a conversation with his man behind the scenes that makes him feel comfortable enough to make this song. I can't speak for him.

I ain't spoke to him. But I know the song is going to be fire. Yeah. And Chicks Tape 3, 4, and 5 still fire. And Alone at Prom and Playboy.

Oh, Playboy. Oh, my God. We really want to go. We were just talking. That nigga been on a run six. We really want to have that. There's a conversation there. That nigga been

say what you want. Stupid. Did you hear Alone at Prom? Did you hear Playboy? That shit was fire. Y'all couldn't have heard that and think Wasteland is just fire. Stop. Don't compare.

Don't do that. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.

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Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. I love it. I love it. I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. I forgot. you like it I love it I forgot wasn't it one of the best

R&B projects since it's release huh hello yes and Alone at Palm that's it I ain't got nothing else to say

I ain't heard nothing better than Alone at Palm since it dropped R&B-wise I'm not pitting black men against each other I'm just saying R&B period

but in a constructive criticism type of way cause I saw a lot of people saying and I'm leaving thisitting black men against each other. I'm just saying, I don't care. But in a constructive criticism type of way, because I saw a lot of people saying, and I'm leaving this shit alone for good. I saw a lot of people saying, uh, Joe got, uh, some nerve criticizing that when he bigs up mad records,

that's in the same vein of that. I totally disagree with that. I could not disagree more with that. And I think that's, what's at the core of my problem with it. The tracks are so empty that you need a vocal to uphold it. And if it's not doing that, that's a clash. He could be the greatest guy in the world,

but that's going to always sound like a clash. Party Next Door don't do a whole bunch of records where he's just dropping all the instruments out and expecting his voice to carry the shit. Neither did Bryson. Neither did any of these niggas that do that. They don't do it. Valid.

That's a good point. Anyway. But it's a sound that works for him. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not mad at him for that. You know what I'm saying? Or them. Yeah, get your shit off.

I ain't mad at this. This is going to be fire. This is going to be fire. Y'all can say what you want. Yeah. I'm a cop. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, we can get into this.

So T-Pain explained to academics, he says that Chris Brown suffers from princess complex. That's not a nice thing to say. I don't agree with it at all. It is not a nice thing to say. It's not a shitty thing. It don't sound. It don't.

It don't sound like a nice thing to say about somebody. At least call me Prince Complex, like something. Well, no, because that don't prove his point, I guess. I get his point, and it was, I disagree with it, but what he was saying was, it's almost the equivalent of pretty privilege. Like, you've been getting away at doing what you do for so long that now that you do something, it's like, yo like yo this supposed to work because i'm me i disagree i think they're and people been getting on my ass about it paul's

like oh you're claiming he's been shadow banned you're claiming this you're claiming that well it has happened i see jermaine dupri even put a tweet out saying yo i'm looking at apple's top 30 r&b tracks and there's nothing from Chris Brown's album here. Not one song. He was like, Sleep At Night should be in here. If nothing else, just that. But that goes to my point about playlisting. If they don't put it in the playlist,

it's probably not going to be charting. That's a gatekeeper. Yeah. I just want to throw that in there as well. That's what a gatekeeper is. Funkmaster Flex, even if he's not playing your record, Tastemaker, not gatekeeper. Yes, he's not a gatekeeper.

Tastemaker, though. Influencer. Icon. Icon. All of those things. But you can get in. For sure. You can get in the club.

You can get in. You can try. And I saw a lot of the, because back to Brent's numbers, or Brent's album, his numbers was like 105 or something like that. It was amazing numbers, especially to be independent. And the first thing I saw, ah, he outsold Chris Brown. Ah, like pitting up against each other. Stop pitting black men against each other.

Well, that same list that Jermaine Dupri put out. Brent was on number one. He was number one. He was number one. On the playlist. It was people up there. Iermaine Dupri put out. Brent was on number one. He was number one. He was number one. On the playlist. It was people up there. I didn't even know how songs out. Like, it was a little rough.

So those two go hand in hand. You know what I'm saying? Playlisting your numbers, et cetera, things like that. That's why when some of these major, major artists drop and they're plastered all over the new music screen and the new playlist of everything they're the top three four records yeah so let me ask you a question because you know it's not my thing got you how does somebody as big as chris brown um yeah you ain't going nowhere how does somebody as big as chris brown how does that happen to them i'm asking out of curiosity because i don't know well one and i'm not sure

you you could rub some people to piss off somebody gotcha it could be it could be the label that you have your deal with like he's licensing his music to rca it could be something on their end that they haven't done to get it where it needs to be because that's the purpose of the major label at this point gotcha remember how like before years ago the major label was the ones that would get you on mtv bet the radio you know get you in these magazines that was all controlled by the major label now because you don't necessarily there is no videos on betm tv radio is you know it's not as needed but it's still there so the the step

that the labels control now is your access to playlisting things of these natures so it could be something in there where somebody just didn't do what they were supposed to do i i really don't know they wasn't gonna benefit from doing it so they ain't do it. I mean, it's Chris Brown, so I think they would benefit. That's the partnership agreement they have. But it could be a number of things. But when you are with a major and the major isn't doing

what the major's supposed to do, it will show in your numbers. Gotcha. And in this case, it showed. Now, the reason behind that, we may never know. But I do think when I saw Chris getting mad and putting his comments up like, oh, you know, you blog, you report on me anytime it's negative,

but you won't report that my album is out. I think he directed that the wrong way. That should have been directed at your label and your team. Holy shit, yo. Uh-oh, something happened? Well, you said Brent was independent, and we know him to be independent. Don't tell me he... So $105,000 and $110,000 sounds...

Amazing. Pass amazing for an independent artist. He's fighting for number one. And number one on the Little Apple list sounds amazing for an independent artist. He's fighting for number one. And number one on the Little Apple list sounds amazing for an independent artist. So I went to my album that I purchased, by the way.

Okay. You didn't just roll your eyes at the camera, did you? And it says... With sunglasses on. Word. 2022 Lost Kids LLC, which would be Brent, marketed by Venice

slash STEM marketed by sounded funny to me so I went to go look it up over there and learned that Venice is a music company as well as a tech

company and it's co-founded in 2019 by Troy Carter, Jay Irving, and Suzy Ryu. Suzy, I am unfamiliar with. Jay Irving and Troy Carter, I am not. And Jay Irving is Dr. J some, right? Got you. and J. Irvin is Dr. J somewhere got you two well respected long tenured

executives with all the pull in the universe yo stop trying to get me with y'all music shenanigan tricks yo hey you Yo, stop trying to get me with y'all music shenanigans tricks, yo. Hey, you... Hyphen.

Ain't going to get me. Yeah, y'all stop trying to fool me, man. Anyway. That changes things. Come on, man. That changes a lot. Because I was sitting here wondering how, I mean,

I wasn't going to hate on it because if you indie and you, you know, salute. But I was sitting here wondering how an independent artist is getting these

playlisting placements. Q&A, the music technology startup founded by Troy Carter and Suzy Ryu has announced Venice Innovation Labs, a newly launched

software division that enables record labels to better test songs, manage their artist rosters, and distribute music easily and efficiently, according to the announcement. Do with that what you want, yo. No, you got to read the bottom. The first products to be released from Venice Innovation Labs are StreamRate and Venice for Labels.

StreamRate is a mobile app that gives sentiment analysts before songs are released, engineered, and designed for the streaming age. Venice for Labels is an interface that enables labels to distribute music, manage their artist roster, and track splits and payments. Venice also has a premium services team for playlisting and strategic creative marketing available upon request. I'm taking a smoke. Yeah. Hey, y'all leave me the fuck alone with this bullshit, all right? Yeah, man, the fuck?

What the fuck? And I say that with all due respect to Jay Irving and Troy Carter. Please don't misconstrue what I'm saying. I fuck with them. No, it's just it makes shit. I fuck with them. But you fuck with them because they both are so reputable. And then you just understand. Yeah. There you go. I mean, at the end of the day,

they're doing their job well. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Well, the future of music, a lot of these music companies are tech companies. Tech based. So if you have one of those you're trending in the right direction for music in the future and the sad truth is if you don't have one of those then you're doing some prehistoric shit it's like they say to all the content creators if you're not

on tiktok then you're doing dinosaur shit it's the same thing and this i mean you get it and if you don't then it's not time for you to get it mean, you get it. And if you don't, then it's not time for you to get it yet, but I understand it. Now, we have a big beef brewing here in studio. Da-dum. Come on, look how I spice up the segment. Exactly.

Yeah, spice some shit up. Wake it up. The fuck up here. It's too cold. No, we here, nigga. Cayenne pepper. Neo sat somewhere. See, that's why it's Cloud Chase here.

You don't even know where he sat. Dead ass. You have no idea where he is. Where is he? I'm listening, yo. Before I comment, go ahead. Neo sat somewhere and said that he did not sign Lucky Day because he let Lucky Day stay in the crib

and he went out of town one day told him that have a blast me casa you casa just don't go in my master bedroom

and Lucky Day went in his master bedroom fuck some shit in his bed yeah nigga I'm Neo now I'm Neo and it's my Lucky Day

or her Lucky Day drum roll please hey I still got it taking this act on the road my show coming to moment how soon I had about nine things

to spin off of that go ahead I'm listening go ahead and spin then look tuck your tail look tuck his tail tuck his tail don't let me out alright

Ice says this is clout chasing which is also marketing Ish says he doesn't quite view clout this to be clout chasey which is also marketing ish says he doesn't quite view clout this to be clout chasing which side would you like to hear from first ish my definition of clout chasey is like when you're just doing some real extra shit to be seen you know i'm saying like you having a story or you telling the story you got an album coming out so of course you're going to do interviews and you're going to work the circuit so the conversation could go anywhere so that kind of particular some let me give you an example because i didn't hear

the whole interview i only saw that particular excerpt but let's just say hypothetically they said hypothetically they said hey who are you feeling now he could have said lucky day and then told the lucky day story i don't i don't look at that as clout chasey i just think that that's the story that popped up and clout chasey should to me is just being real real real extra all right can i ask a question sure who are you feeling right now and he answers lucky day correct does that generate a headline that answers the question no no let's now and he answers lucky day correct does that generate a headline that answers the question no no let's say he is feeling lucky day like i like his music but does

that generate a headline like this no right so now me going a step further and telling this lucky day story which will now generate as we see a headline that's where the clout this has nothing to do with anything even if they ask you yo what do you think about lucky day the clout chase this has nothing to do with anything even if they ask you yo what do you think about lucky day the clout chasey part like you said clout chasey to you means extra that is extra that's the definition of an extra story no it's got nothing to do with neil's album no interview and no interviewer could have asked it because we didn't know we didn't know you volunteered some extra information juicy shit wait juicy shit see cause you gotta add

that factor in that context Neo is from the school of Patti LaBelle and fucking Whitney Houston in terms of media market savvy training

like he's getting he's getting the questions before you send them what we talking about before that camera cut on so yeah you're not just

going to shock him you're saying this to someone who's interviewed Neo 1000% Neo you can't get him tripping when i sat with him and asked him about the uh brimless whatever he was wearing at the time he expected the question and knew that that was the headline these people that are good they know what a headline is and how to generate them that's what he did he didn't have to do that and you don't have to do it when your album is coming out and lucky day album just came out that's what make it that's that's the part that made it clout chasey to me knowing the album

that lucky day put out knowing the reception it got knowing where it placed him you saying his name with a with a like joe said a juicy story makes it clout chasey because now it's going to grab attention now you got attention on your interview that you probably not i ain't seen no other headlines from this interview and it did in fact grab attention and it worked yeah and i'm this about Ne-Yo, because his pen and hand should be in a Hall of Fame somewhere. So he has proved himself. But there is an entire culture of trying to get attention from anything outside of your actual talent, outside of your music.

See, that's why I disagree with what you said. Hey, I'm doing an album. I got to go on my promo and press run. We got to have a conversation. Well, you're right. agree with what you said hey i'm doing an album i gotta go on my promo and press run we gotta have a conversation well you're right and if we can't have 20 conversations about your album where it came from whose feature what's inspired what does it mean to you what do you want to do next then we about to say some bullshit i mean that's that's the generation that we're in but we don't you get what i'm saying like yo you're right we had we had maino and jim up here they had an album drop but we sat here and talked a whole bunch

of other funny shit that's us i'm giving an example and that's them i know it's a bad example no it's not it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a conversation that was had amongst people and some of the shit that we talked about wasn't necessarily pertaining to their album that caught the headlines and that was funny dope shit like what because i didn't see none it was definitely something i didn't see a one generated anywhere outside of this network i didn't see no other place that's not true but we're asking for a headline give us the one with jim jones said here smoke loy banks boots that made that that did not just get put out by us that was definitely it didn't get put out by any top tier mediums i don't know about the tops and the

bottoms i just know i saw it other places and it wasn't put out by us jim didn't sit down here during album week and say yo this is what happened with me and freddie gibbs no he didn't and we didn't ask him i'm just giving you an example of something you asked me to tell you something that got out to the blogs i did that's all again we just got different definitions of clout chasing yeah because it ain't like he sat there and told us a story that nobody knew who jim he didn't sit there and tell us a story that nobody knew. Who? Jim. He didn't sit there and tell us a story that nobody knew involving... He didn't? That's what I'm saying. No, I didn't say... I'm saying that I didn't think what Jim did was clout chasey at all.

I'm saying me, my definition of clout chasey is just different. So to you... But just so we all... I mean, we'll leave this alone, but... I'm not sure that's not clout chasey. Y'all argue whack. I mean I guess at the

end of the day there's degrees of clout chasing because I do I think that there is telling a funny story on a

podcast I think that's a thing yeah I don't think that's clout chasing you can tell any funny story

you want about you the second that you start including other names and other famous names at that then you know what you're doing that's start including other names and other famous names at that then you know what you're doing that's where you're participating in that culture that monetizes

off of headlines and other people's names and work and i'm not mad and neil don't have to do that he don't have to do that but again i'm not mad that he did it i'm just calling it for what it is well does he doesn't he yeah me neither i'm not mad i'm not mad i'm did it. I'm just calling it for what it is. Well, does he or doesn't he? Yeah, me neither. I'm not mad. I'm not mad that he did it. I'm mad he didn't tell us how he got his bed back. Nigga, what you did. We just talked about the fact that music companies are delving into technology.

Artists and people are adapting into not technology, but personality. Talking. adapting into not technology but personality talking for me to accept that I would have to condone this poor people ignorant just low hanging fruit

thinking if I were to accept that that's exactly what the chameleon inverse is about actually that's what the chameleon inverse is about why do we have to do that why we can't get into tech that is my direct response to that i don't have to try to adapt to the tech i could try to get in somehow like chameleon air and a few others did if you really sit here with jim who'll let him get in his crypto bag. Oh, forget it. He'll go off. Like, artists are trying to tap into other things and other places and other spaces.

What do you mean? Is his economic back when he says the same thing and y'all argue with me? I don't understand what you're saying. Yo, I'm trying to get the bag. Explain what you're saying. What are you saying? Good.

I'm agreeing with Chameleon. I think that if you're an artist In today's Climate You gotta acclimate To some of the stuff That's going on If you're an artist

You gotta figure out How to get in touch Even if you're as big As a Neo You still gotta figure out How to move around So if you're on a podcast Cause again a podcast

Ain't even an interview Also Like a podcast Is more than just A radio interview At Hot 97 Or also like a podcast is more than just a radio interview at hot 97 or pal 105 a podcast is more conversations it goes everywhere especially when we interview people it goes everywhere we start talking about niggas mamas and your father was this and your uncle was that like we get it in so i can see how that's i'm sorry my bad i didn't mean to cut you

off but that's because we don't chase the salacious headline true no I'm just saying but conversation in conversation even with us when we talk to each other and we know each other it pivots a lot that's true

so certain stories could potentially come up depending on where the conversation you could go off on a tangent I would have to see it in its entirety

to see how the lucky day shit came out that would be important to me and also seeing who disseminated it. Because this is not a, no disrespect to the gentleman on the podcast, but this doesn't appear to be a podcast I'm familiar with. I don't think anybody in this room

is familiar with this podcast. What disseminated me? Did Neo take this one little piece and put it on his page? Because he knew it worked? Then I would say or did the podcast, do they have a connection with someone that took that one little piece

and sent it around and they ran with it and pushed it then it could be something totally because there's probably things that happen on our interviews

that someone could take and chop up and make salacious but we don't really do that shit yeah that's true that's true can't edit what you

don't give true also true and he gave it true he did knowing they could edit and someone who knows the game You can't edit what you don't give. True. Also true. And he gave it. True. He did. Knowing they could edit. And someone who knows the game and knows the media game as well as he does.

Yeah. But I don't care. His album's fire. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't care that he did this. Again, I'm not. It don't hurt anybody. It don't affect anybody.

I just feel like he did that. When the topic first came up, Ish said it's marketing. Uh-huh. Him even telling that story is marketing. I agree. It's clout chasing, Ish said it's marketing. Him even telling that story is marketing. I agree. It's clout chasing, but it's still marketing. I'm not mad at it, especially if the product is good. And more importantly, let me just let you know, Neal,

at least six different times I've left and told a nigga, hey, hold it down, just don't go in my bedroom. That's the first place to go. They're going in there, they're trying to crack your safe combination on no full size wear your guns he's in there snoozing showering your shit i know he's got the good soap this look at the type of soap this nigga on there scrubbing with your your squishy shit. Yeah, loofah. Yeah, loofah. Yeah, putting your loofah on they balls. That's fair.

Disrespecting your friendship. What you gonna do, nigga? You don't know? You don't know? And there's also levels to cloud chasing because I would not put this

on the same level as some of the redacted things that redacted does or redacted or redacted. Any of these people that do like the most foul,

flagrant, crazy shit in the world just to get clout. All clout chasing ain't bad. To me, all clout chasing's not bad. I interject to spice up. I love arguing with Parks. Clout chasing, and I'm going off what you just said, that's not up to how you receive the act.

Okay. Right? Like you just said, like give me an example of that uh homeboy that went to the uh murals and

yeah posted up with a bunch of security guards in a place that he had beef with the kid or whatever it was and disrespected it's definitely that's like some

that's a different level of cloud chasing than saying lucky day at 20 something was fucking a girl in my bed and he was my man and he gave him props yo he wrote Jamie Foxx's verse on uh That's a different level of cloud chasing than saying Lucky Day at 20-something was fucking a girl in my bed. And he was my man.

And he gave him props. Yo, he wrote Jamie Foxx's verse on the remix with that. And he also made it clear, yo, he was young. This was mad years ago. This was 20-something years or 10 years ago, whatever the fuck it was. He made sure, like, yo, this is not Lucky Day of today. This is Lucky Day a long time ago. Don't tell me about it today. Man, I feel you. I feel you. Especially knowing, again, this is Lucky Day a long time ago don't tell me about it today

especially knowing again this is somebody that's in that same lane who has a project that was just put out that was received the way it was received so yes you saying his name is going to generate some type of attention true indeed that part to me is what makes it clout chasey

and again not all clout chasing is bad. I'm not mad at it. I don't think he's out here, yo, what could I say to get a headline? No, I'm not saying it in that sense. But I knew what was going to happen when I told that story. That's all. True indeed. Which makes it clout chasey.

Now you got to have a versus against Lucky Day. That'd be a bad day. That'd be a very bad day. Unlucky. Worst day. He will not be lucky that day. No, it'd be worst day. That nigga will...

Black cat across his path. He'd be so unlucky. Crazy. They are in different... They better stay different. Generations. Whatever it is, they better stay different. Don't even put their names together.

They're a different generation. All right, so don't put their names together then. I didn't. He did. I'm telling you. He did. In the verses. And that's the thing.

You did. No, I did not. You just said. Nobody even thinks of them two names together if you don't say it. That's how thoughts work. Ain't nobody think of them two together in the verses but you. And you was joking. You knew better.

You knew better. you were cloud chasing what y'all think lucky day was trying to do getting in his bed fucking that girl was a versus that was a versus if you tell me not to go in your bedroom and you go to work and i go in the bedroom and fuck in there. And you catch me. What you think this is? It's amazing.

You'll be hitting it like this in this bed. Yeah, bitch. You ain't make that bed move like that. I got my fingerprints on your headboard, though. What you got to do about it? What you got to do about it? Conor in his bedside garbage. Conor. You're right, man.

I know it. My fault. I said my bad're right. I know it. My fault. I said my bad. Shout out to Neo, yo. Neo's great. And Lucky Day. Yeah, shout out to And the girl.

And the girl. He said they pop the same, girl. I didn't, never said the same. You said the same, girl. Look at your imagination going to work. Look at your imagination, girl.

The girl in Lucky Day popped in his bed. She was in the old bag. Love a girl the girl in Lucky Day in his bed she was in the old bed love a girl that'll fuck somewhere she ain't supposed to facts like the car

man the car yeah you're not supposed to fuck in a car restaurant at all alright that was you over there

at Brooklyn Chop House huh wasn't me they wasn't even in the bed you fucking restaurants is there a word for that you're a real restaurateur

club bathroom that was wrong with you and New York club bathrooms gross too and New York's restaurant the club week is coming nah

club bathroom well I guess it depends on the club it definitely depends on the club because some of the club bathrooms be crazy

it depends on the amount of alcohol in your system what are you talking about what kind of alcohol too there you go too, that's true. What are you talking about? What kind of alcohol, too? There you go. Too much kill you, have you? You killing it anyway.

All right, so what else is important? Or unimportant, for that matter? I have some unimportant shit, but I don't need to throw it out there just yet. Oh, no, I'm ready for your unimportant. I have an unimportant one. Let me hear yours. You go first. Let's hear yours.

They're putting contraceptives for squirrels out in the public they taking the nuts from the squirrels in this in this Roe V. Wade environment we live in

they're secretly drugging the squirrels with birth control why the squirrels can't fuck the squirrels just trying to get a nut they can't get the nut

yo that's crazy I always knew this was the future of podcast no i'm really fucked up over this what's wrong with the squirrels fucking and i knew we'd be the ones to take it it might be too many of them what was the headline who would say that the scientists design contraceptives to limit gray squirrels? Oh, maybe your girl is a scientist. Oh, shit. Wow, yo. How could she not want gray squirrels? Oh, shit. You think their dicks

is too big to be gray? We gotta have a conversation now. I don't understand this. Somebody explain what that is. Apparently the squirrels are, in fact, overpopulated. They're overpopulated, so they're trying to control the population, so they're trying to control the population. So they're giving them... Slipping a little BC in the acorns.

See? See, all right, all right. I don't want to put the tinfoil hat on. But if they're doing that to the squirrels, and they've been saying we've been overpopulated, come on, dog. It's just a test to see if it's going to work. And then y'all...

Every day, I regret... Stay away from the acorns ATSK Get ready to bleep me out Every day I think the vaccine Was more and more bullshit I'm glad you

You reading my mind Thank you for bleeping me out I wish they'd tell me If it was gonna Oh wait Y'all see They say they got The new COVID coming

That your immune system Can't beat Yeah How they know it's coming It's more It's called. No, no, no. I called them and said, yo, I'm going to be there next year.

No, no, no. It's the telescope shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. They said, okay, this one's ready now. They said it's immune evasive. Yeah, we good. I didn't even know what that meant.

Immune evasive. Jump around. What the hell? It's like the tree. Fucking dumb. It's coming. It's bullshit, bro. Never come again, man.

It's just going to have to meet me in the room. Lord. Man, I'm not getting no more boosters. Yeah, yeah. I'm done, sir. I'm done. Bullshit, bro. Never come again, man. It's just got to meet me in the room. Word. I'm not getting no more boosters. I'm done, sir. I'm done. Just put your hands up. Boost your crackhead uncle. Don't boost me.

Don't boost me. I'm done. I'm not getting no more. Yeah, I'm not boosting nothing. We're just going to catch it at this point. Yeah. Monkeypox. I was talking to my mom.

My mom's had COVID a couple weeks ago. She's like, yo, so you hear they say it in new york everybody needs to wear their masks and everything indoors and outdoors i'm like why she's like because there's a new strain coming out now she was like well i don't have to worry about it because i just had covid so i'm good for about 90 days i should have immunity i said but if it's a new strain and you ain't been exposed to that you might be fucked up is that what it is that's what it is is that oh shit the boss is here is that is that what it is oh man oh my god what's going on oh man got some company.

Let me stand up and give this guy a hug. Yo, you keep some fly shit on. I know that motherfucking mother. I know you keep some exclusive shit on, man. Joe, what's good, boy? What's going on man How you Hold on Hold on

Let me move my Move my shit Put this back here Oh man This is amazing Yo chill out Nah you might as well Come sit right down

Do you feel Do you feel pressure Cause uh Hovain is in the room Currently Do I feel pressure Cause Hovain is in the room currently? Do I feel pressure because Hovain? He manages your coat.

You know what I mean? I don't know who Hovain manages. It's old. It's not even real. Looked good to me. Joe, you had some unimportant news. Yeah, what are your unimportant news? That was some unimportant news yeah yeah what are your unimportant news

that was very unimportant but somehow very important alright unimportant news by Joseph Anthony Button Jr

I don't know if I can beat Parks Parks might have won this one I think he did Parks won that shit was important I think Parks won

this one yo that shit was important though so yours could really be unimportant and you could still win. I still got a shot. You got a shot.

Alright. Dig deeper. Pause. Well, unpause. Speaking of digging deeper, I went on Instagram, posted a funny little meme. I thought it was hilarious.

It resonated with me. I identified with it. And I laughed for a long time. Can you tell us the meme? Screamy, I don't need you to try to emphasize my story. Get the fuck out of here searching around on the screen. Well, at some point I will. And then you'll search.

Okay, gotcha. And I put up a little meme and it said, it was a picture of a baby. And it said, this is me at 2 a.m. looking at the little Indian niggas build a pool. I'm just putting a round of applause for our guest that has joined us. Not the Indian niggas? And them.

Right? We're going to introduce our- They be wildin', yo. It was a horrible introduction. We're going to introduce him correctly right after this very un yo. It was a horrible introduction. We're going to introduce him correctly right after this very unimportant story that you will have to sit through for two seconds. And a lot of people hit me back and laughed.

Ha, ha, ha. I seen them too. They be wildin', son. But then it was one dude... Fucked your head up. ...that said, Hey, you seen the story going around about them niggas

being a fake right it wasn't our guy was it and then somebody else popped up and said yo all over twitch they saying

these niggas is frauds I said you a liar send me a link and they sent a link sent a link

it says that our primitive little guys are out there perpetrating a fraud and lying they provided visual proof

they said these are teams of 10 12 15 people out there doing digging with industrial machines oh shit they got a backhoe

out there yeah they said in some of these videos You can see the third nigga Hiding in the side over there They said the little sticks they use And they show the stick marks

When they digging You can see the machine marks Right next to it Like They said You supposed to call that for us Yeah it's Who?

You I fuck with them little niggas I seen them make a pool in Africa In the middle of the desert. Now, they also said... Nigga made an oven. Now, I thought something was funny about this.

What the fuck is you talking about? I did think something was funny because there's about 20 of them primitive pages and they all do over 50 million. And these two little dudes, I don't know

if they was doing all that. I thought there was some backing. I just didn't know. So they went on to explain how most of those spots where they build that are privately owned. It's privately owned land. Well, shit. By the developers or by company X such and such.

And they just broke this whole thing down and made me feel really stupid for believing that these two dudes were actually doing all of that digging and making pools with no water supply in sight. Now that I look at that, I don't know if any of y'all have ever even attempted to dig a hole before. That's a big-ass fucking hole. Shout-outs to the scammers, man. Yo, they also brought up that water and mud is not how you make cement. Nah, they be doing water. Damn. I'm just telling you, watch it for yourself.

Erickson, I'll send you the proof vid but just like Santa Claus is not real the little South Korean Indian dudes building pools and shit is not real I'm really sad

I was very sad about that not shocked now everybody shut the fuck up turning it on now let's go now let's go you picked you else not let's go aggressively dusting off not let's go i picked jim we have your dog i'm just trying to introduce you heard that shit a guest of mine he liked ain't like that shit. We have the man,

the myth, the legend, the hermit himself. I think last time I saw this guy was the passport office. They suspended my shit for child support.

I couldn't make my little London run wherever I was going. Going there, oh shit, Lloyd Banks is in here. I always bump into this guy at the weirdest of places. He doesn't come out,

but he's here today. And he's a very humble man, but I ain't. So I'm going to talk shit and pretend that it's him. And we're going to spice this up a little bit. Two weeks ago, on the way here, Lloyd Banks, Ice asked me what guaranteed point Lloyd Banks has. Use your batting.

In a versus. You even got to acknowledge him right now. I could not believe He said that He asked me if the victory freestyle Was a guaranteed point It is That's what I said again I'm not asking you

Shit inside nigga Don't do that I'm not asking you nothing I not only was there for this I wanted to see this nigga with this drop, man! Oh my god! Ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen! PLK himself, self, self, self!

Ice! I We did pop shit till we started punching these cows while we lay around dollars. Uh-oh. I got a round. Yeah. Dog using steam for reels. Oh, man. When I call a bitch, I should queen the teeth. When I'm a big bitch, long enough to stash the streets. We go, this shit can get ugly. And in the masterpiece, Jacob, I can slide and pick ruckus. We're proud of you.

I kind of can't cut this off, Walter. Come on. I had to sleep. No, no, no, no. Ice. You probably did. Ice. Ice, we not here to be friendly with you, yo.

We not here for that. I'm out. Yes. You went against the king? Listen, I'll make my point when the time is right. The time is right. It's here. He's here.

Let me get into it. Ladies and gentlemen, we have Lloyd Banks, PLK himself, here on the couch. I begged for this man to pay a visit for years. Pause. Hovain, thank you. Super manager, him fucking self. We appreciate you. Banks.

To my credit, I haven't been anywhere else Oh yeah yeah I know I was watching I was looking I was looking around That's for one For two This is the first stop

Let's go Now I appreciate that Being that I have some really Disrespectful co-hosts Or at least one. Claims to be your friend, too, I think. But I don't like that about niggas.

Like, when the artists come, and I've seen it before. Like, niggas switch it up sometimes. I'm still standing where I stand. Well, where... I said... Y'all know what I said, and I'll say it again. I don't know what you... Say it to his face.

Say it to his face. Say it to his face Say it to his face Say it to his face now Nigga I'm here Inside nigga Yeah this is what being outside is like I'm a Satan's nigga You gonna shut up

Bring me up to speed I need to know what's going on Alright Jim sat here These are cool Jim sat here and said He would clean you up in the verses Nah I started it with Jewels

Yeah I didn't start with Jewels Well I started with Jewels Right Didn't start with Jim Well we were talking about the, yeah. The niggas was tossing it back and forth. Exactly. Juelz versus you.

Juelz said he was looking for you. Right. And he totally disregarded Memphis Bleak. I took offense to that because I fuck with Bleak. So that was the conversation. But we eventually got back to Juelz and Banks. I asked everybody to pick a winner. Ice picked his.

I don't remember theirs. But I was a little confused by it so then when we had jim here and mayno i asked him just shits and giggles he supported his man like he was supposed to and he said that he would be victorious and i'm like maybe this is like the brent album and I'm just in my own fucking world here. Why do you think people have you fucked up this way? Because I played... Wait, let me... No, don't cop.

No, please. I'm not copping a plea. You ain't let me talk. I've been trying to talk. I can explain it. I can explain it. I've been trying to talk. Now, I've said,

when Jim said that, I agree with Jim. I have Jim winning that versus. I'm going to say it. The man is sitting right here. Jim has... Better plant your feet. But no, I got Jim winning that versus.

I ain't saying it's a mop, but I got Jim winning that versus. Banks, why do you think people got you fucked up this way? And do you think people got you fucked up? I think the correct question is, do I give a fuck no no no you don't care we know people know that yeah we do think people know that with that being said we can't go back in and change history hmm yeah I landed where I'm at right here this day from the animal I was when I came into the game.

But everybody's entitled to their opinion. Yo, this nigga talk is like the Godfather. God damn it. Everybody's entitled to their opinion. I'm not going,

you know what I mean? You're supposed to feel like that as an artist. You know what I'm saying? But yeah. Would you put your money on it? Hmm. There's the question.

Are you asking me? Yeah. He ain't asking me. I'm talking to you. I would. I would. How much? I think Jim would do it.

I still got Jim winning. Yes. I think when it comes down to, like, they brought up karma as like a damn near guaranteed point what's beating it something miami's gonna beat that no some of miami's gonna beat that that's what i'm dealing with i thought there was a better answer this is what i go through this is what i go through

i'm just this is what i go through hey listen i you was gonna pull some Dips and Anthem or something You know what I mean I'd be like That's a tough One to one Hey it's his opinion bro It's my opinion Yeah

I just think I think Versus is something different I think that Nobody in their right mind Gonna say that Jim Carat better than Roy Banks Nobody

Right Respectfully Yeah Respectfully But as far as A Versus goes It's other shit that goes Into a Versus in the White Banks. Nobody. Right? Respectfully. Yeah, respectfully. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But as far as a versus goes, it's other shit that goes into a versus.

We just saw Mario smoke Omarion's boots based on based off performance. Skill. Based off his performance. Have you seen me perform?

Of course. No, no, let me finish. Hold on, hold on. No, no, no. That's not where you're going to lack it. No, no, no. Wait, wait, wait.

Have you seen me perform You know I In front of a crowd So he hauled The last time you did it Was it sold out? It was sold out Okay

He said you ain't lose your breath Exactly Did I give him his props? He gave him his props I said yo, that's the one thing When I thought about it real quick He did I was like you know what

He said yo, your breath control Was crazy I seen Banks perform recently An hour and a half And he went straight through And I said if that Banks is on that versus stage versus what I saw

in the dip set versus it's going to go different I think a lot of things go different I said depends on if the 40 year old is in there can I hear from him

that if doesn't even really make sense to me did you see a hype man up there no it's been that way for 20 years so if you're asking me if I'm going gonna be that guy i'm that guy every show

whether it's 2,500 people 25,000 people 50,000 people i've been in front of 70,000 people my voice reaches all the way in the back so when back. So when they were asking me about your biggest records or what your guaranteed points were, I'm unable to answer it because I spent my youth hating on you. Like, when you was catching them joints out the bar. Like, turn that fucking radio off, nigga. But I would assume Karma's one of them. I don't know if that's even the biggest.

Karma's not the biggest. It was just a record. Oh, yeah. But just like, I mean, metric-wise. I don't mean like opinion-based. Like, which records have performed better? Like, I love Started Up. Yeah, Started Up, I think, would be a big single.

No? Started Up? I don't know. Started Up is definitely a big record. But Karma is one of them joints. I performed that record Russia, Africa that's an any crowd record

it don't matter where you drop that they're going to sing along with it and this is the part that a lot of people don't factor in with me and my records I wrote them all I feel like you might have wrote some other things too but when you hear the That yeah

But when you hear the choruses From you know Yvonne Or the Kerry Hillsons And these The Jeremiahs I wrote all that The whole song

So that has to factor in To these choruses Cause fix your fucking mouth Next time Hold that Honestly Dead ass yo I'm so phony.

I don't care. I don't care. It's all good. All right, so you got an album coming out Friday. We'll get to that. Right. We both got signed way back when, and now here we are.

Tell me about everything that happened in between. Well, you was signed before me. Yeah, yeah, I got signed first. That's why I was hating. It's crazy because on the way over here, you know, O'Bain was playing like some of the older freestyles, the one, two, four all-star tapes and stuff. And I remember the first time I heard you,

it was on that freestyle over that freeway, Beanie Siegel beat. What we do. Right? The one, two. Oh, no. Coming will be. What we do. Right? Mm-hmm. The one, two, three. Oh, no. Coming for you. Coming for you.

That was the first time I heard you, I believe. I forgot what tape. It must have been a clue tape, right? Maybe. That circulated in Queens before clue played it.

Oh, no, it was a clue tape. That was a clue tape. I think it was a clue tape. That was a clue tape. It was like either one or two. I was like, and at that point, I was mad in my,

you know, in my head like damn i need that spot don't be mad when i'm broke i was still trying to brother you was broke i was beyond no no see that was the good old days that was the that was i missed that man that was a crazy time man don't you miss mixtapes yeah hell yeah i took them at the time, too, because at some point, I was kind of tired of them. You know what I'm saying? I wanted albums from people. Y'all, both of y'all on this couch.

I was like, damn, I want to hear albums from y'all. I'm tired of the freestyle shit. The whole album idea was so far-fetched for people like me at that time. And me. Right? To even think that I was going to have an album that the world would hear, I didn't even see past a 25-block radius, let alone the world would hit. I didn't even see past the 25 block radius, let alone the world. Case in point,

first time I went to Flex and did that freestyle, that legendary freestyle first time G-Unit went up there, that's all new material. You remember that one? I'm trying to put it together. I'm trying to put it together on a ride there. That's why if you

go back and listen, It's a few stumbles Because it was all new raps Yeah but y'all killed them stumbles In my mind My hood heard my raps already That I've done on those mixtapes So it's old or something So you couldn't do it

So I felt like I couldn't hear Forgetting how many listeners This is in New York You know what I mean Millions And I'm worried about My 25 block radius I think a lot of people

get caught up in that though even today like yo this shit is old whatever whatever because you played it for your homies not a lot of people because a lot of people

don't have that much material to be able to you know improvise and say scrap these 10 verses I'm going to write 10 more between yesterday and today and I'm going to go up there

and my memory worked a little better then and I'm going to go up there and my memory worked a little better then and I still was stumbling. But it actually, to anybody who, you know, wants to get to that platform, it actually felt like

you were talking to seven million people. You know what I mean? Like when this mic goes hot, you know they on the other side listening. Right. Well, you should know.

Yeah. A lot of people But then they was Hot as fish grease too Yeah They was hot as fish grease But you got At that point We ain't going nowhere

I haven't been nowhere yet You know what I mean We talking about Maybe Club Speed Exit And maybe a few others But we didn't go anywhere Outside of that region

And I made sure I got all of my just do with my hood you know from everybody cause that's what we did it for we wanted to even those earlier mixtapes were

to get the bragging rights and just the respect from my peer you know people I'm not that far removed from school at the point I got signed you're talking two or three

years later you're telling niggas yo watch watch watch watch, watch. And then it wasn't a long wait. When did you start rapping? How old? Maybe 10. Let's check.

Nine, 10. How about you, Joe? Start rapping? Yeah. Like trying to write one? Yeah. 13, 14. I was singing at 10.

That makes sense. Eye on the sparrow, 14. I was singing at 10. That makes sense. Eye on the sparrow, nigga. Singing in the church. To the cigarettes, hit. I started real early, man. I was on drugs for cigarettes. I should have known that question was going to happen. I should have brought my books.

I still got my books from that moment. Ooh, NFTs. That victory shit, I still got the book. Wow. Do you still write? Yeah, I still write. I mean, I fuck with the phone, but I go back and write just for me to have it because what's the point of me having, get shot the fuck up?

You know what I mean? What's the point of having all of that if I'm going to stop? You know what I mean? So I'll just keep writing it, add it to the collection. That shit dope. When you see the shit that Pac stop you know me so I'll just keep writing it added to the collection that shit dope when you like when you see the shit that pop you know I mean he scratched it off and then write some new shit that shit is dope well y'all got global quick yeah that's why I'm say it wasn't it wasn't a lot of time man like I said my first show went from you know me actually seeing people

I went to school with to just not recognizing anybody. You know what I mean? Like, skin, complexion, you know, race, everything. It just was like, damn, the women. You know what I mean? Like, the first big concert I went to, I think it was, Em was on. Damn. I think it was in Jersey.

That was the subtlest flex of all the coolest flex yo the first like big concert I didn't perform oh okay not perform just to actually watch gotcha

I forgot I think it was the Eminem show if I'm not mistaken so I was sort of I was like god damn yeah because the Eminem show was what 02

yeah it must have been that and I watched it from the what you call it the soundstage so you were signed already. 25,000 people. 2025, if it was in Jersey. That was a lot of fucking people.

That was probably more than that. In Jersey? Pyro and all that. It was crazy. But, you know, my experiences date back to, like I said, probably around 10, 11 years old. Wow. The first time, the night Tupac actually passed away, I was on my way to Nassau Coliseum to see Nas, the Fugees,

Bone Thugs-N-Harmony, and The Firm, Keep Sweat. That clip kind of went viral with Ed Lovell when they gave the moment of silence. I was there for that. So on the way there, I believe Angie Martinez, she was announcing it on the radio, man. Shit was crazy.

The whole LIE, everybody was pulled over. Nobody was driving. Everybody pulled over to the sides of the roads and just outside they caused people crying and shit.

So we know this on the way to the concert. People in the building don't know yet because it ain't no damn it ain't nothing yet. You know what I mean? Got your news on the radio.

So we walking in there and we kind of like spreading the word people talking and then when he announced that on that stage like the whole stadium you felt it sink a level.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Like just imagine like King Kong just sits on the roof. Like, it felt like that. Well, we kind of understand because we was on the road

when Nipsey died. Yeah, it were. And that whole building was heavy. That was a weird... I remember the pop shit, though, because Angie was broke up. Angie was really...

Angie was fucked up. It was crazy. Angie was fucked up. And it's like, it all goes in, like... I actually seen Tupac, like, even before that, you know, in Queens performing. I seen Fat Joe perform early on.

When you're 10 years old starting to rap, who did you want to be? It's tricky, man, because it was different stages My TV was Not the shit on your laptop But my TV My TV was the size Of this laptop 10 inch joints Right Yeah

I think all our shit Was about that You know what I'm saying Unless you was rich You had a Maybe 27 inch Tops Right

So I'm sitting there Locked into that You know what I mean It was a mixture of that And maybe like At the time Maybe like Thundercats or some shit. I don't know. But that's what it was about right there.

Me stuck in that TV watching Rakim, that fucking video kicking the speaker. Whenever that shit came on, I'd just be on the floor, just stuck. You know what I mean? Just waiting for it to come back on. So it was between Rakim, Slick Rick, Play the Man. Coogee Rap? Coogee Rap too, but

for me, it was Rakim, Kane, Slick Rick, Diggy, Nas. Who impresses you today? In what way? Rapping. Lyrically.

Lyrically. Rapping. Just rapping. That's it. And if it's nobody, that's fine too. Nah, it's people out there. The ugly face comes on when you press play. I don't get that.

It's a shame. I'm going to keep it real. I don't think they're It's a shame. I'm going to keep it real. But I don't think they're trying to give that. That's true. Right? And it's funny because somebody, I was talking about this earlier, like, I might not even give you that now unless I intentionally want to do that. Because when you're coming in, you got that aggression, that honest ignorance, right? Like, I have punchlines and things that might have insulted people.

But it was coming from just a very organic place for me. You know, people are like, how you think about that shit, yo, dog? That shit's my personality. You know what I mean? It's like this for me. But the older I get, my content is changing. It's maturing and things. So I'm not really going for that.

So a lot of these artists now, not a lot of them. They reach. But a lot of the bigger artists now don't come from the same type of upbringing. Like even the entrance into this, like when I came in, it was like this guy, uh,

you know, Jadakiss, you know what I mean? Like it was, it was competitive at that time you had but even just a spitter

if you was just like a spitter regular you know like you could get away with it now they would've man listen man

nah they couldn't last you would've died out there them clue tapes wasn't for play play facts when the new

clothes used to drop niggas in our hood used to go get a car wash, an outfit, and you would rock that fucking tape for the whole week, week and a half. You would know every fucking lyric on the tape. I miss that, too. Every lyric on the tape. I miss being outside and hearing the music. Summertime.

That's one quote. I listen to iPods and all that shit. It's kind of like, you know what I mean? Yeah. Everybody's in their own world now back then it was like out of 10 people one person had a

a CD player speaker or something yeah nah just like a Walkman oh yeah yeah yeah it wasn't 10 niggas walking down the block

with Walkmans how old are you at that time nah I'm saying that 40 alright nah I'm just trying to put it in perspective

like the era but you learned tell me about your learning process to make a song then No, I'm saying that. 40. All right. No, I'm just trying to put it in perspective with like the era. But you learned, tell me about your learning process to make a song then. Because then you learned it. You learned it and got a grip on it quick. All right. So coming into mixtapes, right?

Like starting from like Cut Master C and The Clues and DJ Absolutes. And this is like even before like Bad Newsues and DJ Absolutes. And this is like even before like Bad News dropped and things like that, watching 50, to be perfectly honest with you, that was like, and he wasn't just like a writer. He was an exceptional songwriter. You know what I mean?

Like just conceptually and just sticking to the whole, you know what I mean? To the subject matter, which was like just sticking to the whole, you know what I mean? Yeah. To the subject matter. Yeah. Which was like a plus for me because, you know, you're looking around the game, there wasn't many like that. Facts. You know? Like some of the biggest artists weren't the best songwriters.

Yeah. He was. Just spoke on that interview. So everything from- What a cheat code. Right. Fuck. So from the introduction, intro, what you say in the beginning, right? Where to pause.

A lot of people are not good at that. Talking shit at the intro. Opening bars. Right. And that's how I write. I write in four-bar pieces, right? And my first four is going to usually be aggressive, right? It's going to be a line in that first four

yeah second four will be some type of break breakdown i might bounce to get bouncy with it right yeah i'm in there now the next four it's going to be a little melodic chico and that's what i got from 50 because i always ball heavy. That's why victory is 50 balls. That's why Banks' workout is 50 balls. Because I didn't know structure. So I was just doing 50 ball verses. If it wasn't 50 balls, I felt like I cheated you and myself. See, that's the spitters from then.

Joe shit. A lot of them. No, Joe raps for six, seven minutes. That has to be 100 and, you know what I mean? So. Dog, think about, nigga's whole albums now be. Do you know what's ill on that?

60 bars. Because I never counted the bars on Victory, of course. It's 50 bars. But that the BPMs on Victory make them 50 bars seem like 300 bars. Yeah, in fact.

Yeah, but see, that was something that I adopted along the way of knowing how to. It did seem like a long freestyle, but it didn't get drawn out because I would hit a pocket where I would change my flow from Banks workout one to. But like back to what I was saying, the outros, the bridges, all of these things I learned from watching him record. the bridges all of these things I learned from

watching him record and they were cheat codes because if I had the illest 16 he was still a show because

that's the sound of the man clapping at I didn't have that yet you see what I'm saying yeah it still work right

and he was going to get deadly close but what a combination that is to have someone that can like rap like you can rap and have someone that can rap like you can rap and have someone that can put songs together like he can put songs together. For sure.

It was crazy. What age did y'all meet? Well, my introduction as Lloyd Banks and getting down with the crew was probably 18. Okay, so young. Something like that, yeah. But he knew about me Rapping way before that Just my subject matter

Wasn't there yet I'm still in school You know what I mean I didn't really get there yet And I'm still learning You know what I mean That's the crazy That's why

I'm in love With the writing process I love this shit I can show you my phone Right now It's A verse every day Like like thousands of verses. You know what I mean?

You write every day? For real? Yeah. That's what you've been saying. I ask that. I say that all the time. I love that shit. The art, the artists, right?

Yeah. You could be 60 years old writing poems. You might not write raps, but poetry is really rapping. You know what I'm saying? I ask him all the time, you don't just be home and just be doodling and it end up being 40 bars. He also has been in a bunker

for nine years living off royalties and pubs. I had to get out here and get a job. What the fuck are you talking about? I'm just talking about the poet in you. You get what I'm saying? Like Nick said, he write bars every day. That's therapeutic for me.

And I ask him the same thing. Like, yo, that's not. Indoor, outdoor. I just have to do that. That's how I get whatever I got going on with me. That's how I cope with it. You got some good people in your life to give you that space to do that, though. I mean.

Take it. All right. So it depends on which. All right. Coming up in a household with like you know siblings and cousins you know how it is

back in the day like you know everybody ends up together so you got two cousins over here two cousins over there you know

and just me being in my my room was you know half of the room not even I was about to say you had a room yeah I had a room to the neck yeah I was about to say, you had a room? Yeah, I had a room.

To the neck? Yeah, I had a twin size bed. You were sporting. I mean, I just had enough room in that space for me to... That's why it's funny, because this is the first guy that called me an introvert. I didn't even know what the fuck it meant. Which is crazy to me, because he's one too, but he's like an out... He's a public introvert.

Yeah. Right? So he'll be an introvert. You can turn it on and off I'd be out there fronting He'd be in the club But he's like It's almost like some Matrix shit

Like he just makes the Fucking room be something else So it's a strip club But it's a library With a glass of milk He could be in a strip club With a glass of milk And a laptop

It's like I keep doing what I'm doing I'm here And I'm putting I'm here and I'm putting together plans for the next show all type of shit right

like some people go to Starbucks to work right yeah right so in a sense you need people

things moving around you to kind of get a vibe I'm total opposite so whether it was by myself the crew I would always escape go to a room

and write three or four records in an hour. I'm most impressed, pardon me, I'm most impressed, like, lyrical ability to decide and songs to decide with his ability to maintain that over the years. That was my next thing, at this age, I'm not even talking about back in the day being able to do that, but at this age, to be able to go in your basement or wherever the fuck you go to write and not be bothered like that's by nothing that's impressive on the people that are around you to me they tried to pull you out that cubbyhole with gossipy bullshit sometimes come up here watch this show or whatever you know i mean this nigga is sinful word no not to say i'm not saying it's easy i'm just saying i do it enough to where i don't miss that big of a gap. You know what I mean?

Right. I got two kids. You know what I mean? Daddy, daddy, daddy. Late night or early? Well, my original hours before kids was probably 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. Right. So that whole time I was either writing or recording.

Yeah. Now it's just like I try to take advantage of those times. Like my kids go to sleep. They might fall out, you know, 11, 12 o'clock.

Mm-hmm. I'll catch that time too. And then I'll wake up at 9 o'clock, go to sleep 6, wake up 9, and I'll catch 9 to 12. Mm-hmm.

And then outside of that, just try whatever else I'm doing. Whatever you can get the time doing i'm on a plane whatever i'm doing but um yeah it's not hard i just work hard enough for it to be effortless you know what do you say kicking it up a notch what do you say to the people that say that y'all broke up new york unity and hip-hop um i don't know what to say about that i mean i think our contributions were so like you know massive it's like you can't have everything the way you want

it you know i mean this this wasn't the perfect storm it was just a fucking storm you know i mean so you got to take the good with the bad and vice versa. I mean, shit. You know, it's funny they talk about that after. Like, you know, if you felt the way at that point,

then you should have did something about it. You know what I mean? It was a tight, it was nothing you could do at that point. You know what I mean? Unity was important.

Yeah, that was a philosophy that developed in like 2009. Well, no, no, no, no. That's not true. Because they tried, unity was important and yeah that was a philosophy that developed in like 2009 well no no no no that's not true because they tried they tried who

when the New York New York record came out they tried and they shot but I'm just saying they tried to do something

and they got shot that game after niggas didn't came in the game yeah and I'm saying in hindsight once Atlanta took off and niggas saw all of that camaraderie, niggas looked back to New York and was like, hey, why couldn't we do that? Oh, because we was beefing.

But I can't even put that on. That part I can't put on them. New York has always had that competition. Well, when they put it in itself time out just for the people that don't know they put it on them

because 50 was like if you fuck with me you can't fuck with an op and I've got all the New York ops but not just that not just that

they put it on us because we didn't need to work with anybody at that point good point Aftermath Shady G-Unit,

you could literally get what you needed. Look at my first album. Look at my features. Tony Ayo, Eminem, Nate Dogg, Snoop Dogg. These are all people that was at arm's reach.

You feel me? So it's not like you were picking from you know what I mean? You're picking from the it power. You feel me? So it's not like you were picking from, you know what I mean? Yeah, this pool. You're picking from the it pile. You feel me? So anything outside of that, it would have been like, you know, going outside,

I guess because you just wanted a personal reason why you had that record. Like my first, the first feature I actually went and got from somebody was Prodigy. You know what I mean? Like Prodigy was it for me. Rest in peace, P. Yeah. When Prodigy. You know what I mean? Like Prodigy was it for me. Rest in peace, P.

Yeah. When Prodigy passed, man, that shit hit me like it did when Biggie passed. You know what I mean? Understandably so. I love that guy right there.

Yeah, me too. Like if you look at a lot of my projects, he was like on the first fucking record. So not only was he like the king of like the first two bars intro line yep but he was just necessary in the beginning of a project he was my favorite rapper

for several different periods you know i'm saying like listen i know the infamous backwards same some people here never heard it see how narrative he said he heard it he just said he heard it he don't know the songs you know the shit ones

huh shit yes I know shit ones but yeah you see how narrative he created the second one or the first one see

he didn't even know there was first one he didn't even know there's two and then it's like why do you know because the 8 mile not for real

yo have you learned shook ones from 8 mile no I did not Joe a lot of the kids did though the effects yeah and that beat is

yeah but that you know rest in peace I'm proud of you man I got this what's your favorite punchline of yours that's like I know I know it's my job that's what I'm here to do that's what I'mline of yours that's like

I know I know that's my job that's what I'm here to do that's what I'm here to do that shit that's impossible to answer that's impossible to answer

or which you delivered your best punchline in whatever yeah oh I would say I would say 0-2 I would say, I would say, oh, two, I would say between the victory though,

that time victory banks, workout one, banks, workout two, because that's the way this is before I got, you know, uh, the training,

you know what I mean? That's all I knew how to do. That was the way for me to grasp and get the excitement out the audience. You know what I mean? So once I started getting the song, writing and stuff down back, then it was like I knew where to pick my punches, if that makes sense. Before that, it was just like 28 makers. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Now I know how to spread that apart because we're doing mixtapes in two sessions. So if you're doing eight bars per verse and there's 16 songs, you know what I'm saying? I have to have at least a punchline out each of those eight bars. So one verse is getting broken down. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. So what would today you say to O2U? Damn.

I do this shit. That's a good one. I definitely do this shit, yo. Shit work well. But that's kind of like a that question is a little gray like what do you mean like as far as

just overall personally or musically I mean both well actually you can take it how you want my next question

is if today you is in a versus against O2 monster you what do you have today that beats that guy that he didn't have?

Stage presence. Stage presence. I would walk all over me, literally. Over early you. We all got to learn how to perform you. I was actually shocked by your stage presence. Because hearing you, you're the coolest guy in the entire fucking world. So before I seen you live, I was like, I'm not really sure what to expect here.

But you get busy. I could say I went to, this was King University. This might have been 04? Where is that at? Jersey. Jersey, Elizabeth. It was a college show. And the performance there versus seeing you years later,

I see exactly what you mean. So now you have to go back years prior to when you saw me. While I was just stiff. You know what I mean? Cool. Being cool.

Like I was literally getting pushed around that stage. On the early, the first mixtape shows when we performing, you know, after Marchetta and records like that, I was literally getting like pushed around because I was frozen. You know what I mean? The 50 would come and literally like, yo, move. Yeah, yo, come move. Because they were already performing already.

Not me. I was up there like the temptations like with the mic with the stand give him a little snap and spin you know back then mike's had cords on him yeah right i'm the reason why you tripped the reason why i was a fucker for like the first 10 shows. Listen to what a throwback is for the kids. Mics with cords. They don't believe that.

Mics with cords. What? Then it turned into I'm not performing if I don't have a cordless mic. I still like mics with cords. It's funny because I can take you further than that. Right? Back. My first performance was a talent show in, I believe, seventh, eighth grade.

Me and two of my homies, and they had the mics with the stand and everything. We didn't even know to take the mic off the stand, right? So we just literally like, you know, in front. And 50 clothes that show out. Wow. Seventh grade. At my junior high school Wow So he was probably

Jam Master Jay at the time Track Masters One of them Yeah And so he came out And he's If you got love for this hip hop shit Put your hands in the air

And all my punk ass classmates Put their hands in the air And I'm thinking to myself Why the fuck didn't I think to say that? But we didn't have nothing to reference it. We had no examples of what a live performance was. Think about it. Yeah. At that time, you watched Vita Music Box or some shit like that.

You didn't see live performances. Yeah, no. It was a stage show. Right. Like, even you would hear, I got seven Mac 11s, about eight. But I never saw it. You never saw it. Right.

I just heard it We're roughly the same age I was in upstate New York Doing this shit So we had no idea What a live performance Should look like So imagine what that

Done to me That fucked me up And then You stole it Six years later I'm actually signed To the guy And rocking out shows

Alright I'm loading up A tough one again In hindsight. Right. Now that we're all adults and grown. Because you love R&B music. I wouldn't say love. Not like you do.

Not like me. I've seen your lives, yeah. I'm a nut. That's interesting. I'm more. You're very melodic. Well, that's what I mean. You are with the incorporating the melodies, the melodics.

You'll get the dope singer. You'll combine it. Does any part of you today feel any guilt for how these new people look at Ja Rule's catalog? What do you mean? Oh, man. What do you mean? They don't. Nigga, yo.

It's hard. What? It's a serious question. I know. It's a serious answer. That's going to be. This new generation, I don't really think holds Ja Rule's catalog in its proper place in hip hop.

Wait, wait, wait. Which generation? The new ones. Today. Nigga. I don't think that's true. That is very true. I don't think that's true. It very true I don't think that's true

it ain't just him that's true they don't even hold Jay in the high regard the new generation fam I've told I ran down the list

they don't hold what are we gauging this off right because now if you look at a lot of the records like um the I don't know if you call it drill

but you know the drill artists that are doing like they'll take a record from almost like covers the early 2000s or something and then

like Karma could be I was actually in the studio not so long ago and there was a younger artist and he was doing a remix to Karma like a drill version

you know what I mean I like when they do that yeah so all of those records like you know it's too many to name but in that time with the Nelly's

and everybody that's kind of the way they own it that's the the other one whose catalog I was getting ready to say. I think a lot of them who were melodic, your Nellies, your healthy. I think there was a dip in both of them, Ja and Nelly, between maybe 2009 and 2015, where people were like this is weird or whatever the fuck

I think it bounced back though I think people fuck with that but what happens is Nelly's classics are still I'm sorry Nelly's classics when they come on

are still identified and recognized as classics I still see people request that fucking all I know about is you.

Amongst the kids, they got TikTok bobs, he's got country success. I don't know that that's true with Ja outside of putting on me, and I've heard people say that that ain't true about putting on me. What happens though is once you hit that point, like you said, after that little dip they hit,

they'll treat you like you were never hot. I don't think that's true with them. Yo, they will forget quick. We'll let the people in the comments figure this out. So, I think your question, I can't speak for you, but he said, yo, do you feel guilty? At all, man.

Or responsible. Responsible for any of it. No. Oh, man, Banks. Man. I don't. I. Oh, man, Banks. It was on. Man. I don't. I think it's all fair play. You know what I mean?

Because even with G-Unit, when you have an impact that strong, you kind of like, we hit our point too. You know what I mean? So it's not like they're the only ones affected. We're affected by the damage as well you know because once you set that ball if you don't get back to that you can't reach

it all the time you know what i mean yeah so it's like i'll give you a perfect example like around 2008 maybe after yeah around 2008 i started seeing shit. Like, this is when, like, rap, not even oldhiphop.com and Hot New Hip Hop and Hip Hop DX. And I was heavy paying attention to that, like, reading the comments. And I started eventually submitting single by single to these people, like, getting in touch with them, who I should contact and sending it to them. And I'm reading the comments, and I would I would see like 75% of them were like, you know, he's a spitter. But then it was niggas like,

yo, you fell off. You ain't the same. I'm like, nigga, what? I can tell you. As for one, because I was one of those. What happened was around that time,

you leaned off of the punchlines and started like really getting deep with the rapping. No, this is before that. Before that. This is before that. Because I remember, that's what happened for me. What album era are you talking about? That might be 12, I'm thinking.

It might be around 12. But that's what the All or Nothings, around there. Right. Around there. Right. Because what happened was PLK Banks? Yeah. Unfuckwittable. And then it got to a point where it wasn't really about the punchlines as much. So what happened was like,

damn, that's what we listening for. I want to hear the punches. And he kind of, not saying you didn't have them, but you shot, you know, like I'm going to give you this too. It ain't all punchlines no more. Like you said before,

every bar damn near was a punchline. Right. And this would be my question to that, right? Who did stick to it? Like, you know what I mean? Like at that point,

from your era. And now, like can you name somebody who actually did? No. For me with banks it was more he wasn't putting shit out more than like he still would have like a little record drop here and there single here see how you try to get past my point i just want them to let you finish

no so you said nobody did right correct i don't think you wanted me to it's it's what happens when we fall in love with something from an artist. So at some point, you have to stop listening to your friends. Right? Mm-hmm. Because they'll keep you there. Right. They'll keep you right there.

That's true. I call Joe from time to time, you know, because I respect just his whole mindset of what he gonna do when he gonna do it and don't give a fuck about what nobody think about it especially when I'm getting ready to transition

and make a move too and I would you know just like I'm losing my track my track where was we at punchlines

punchlines no that's that wasn't where I was getting at you said you modified just that. Blocking out the noise. Changing. Okay. Changing, switching some shit when people are used to a certain thing from you.

Exactly. That got me right back on track. So I spoke to you, and you were telling me when you made that decision, because I'm a writer, writer writer so i appreciate other writers and i want this guy to rap you know what i mean so when he gave me the reason why i said damn that's ill right because when i had my kids like i stopped a lot of shit you know what i mean i haven't smoked in six years wow hey see what i'm saying so like drinking and smoking and things like that it was just i was so proud of that moment you know i've been in the game since

you know 18 19 years old well we up to 34 if i had my first child that was bigger than me than anything you know i'm pretty sure it is for a lot of parents, but for me in particular, I was like, fuck everything. Yep. Everything. I gave you bastards 15 years. You know what I mean? While you're in these comments and telling me what you want me to do and this, that,

and the third. Fuck all of that. What's my daughter's name? Do you know that? Because if you don't, I'm not really concerned. You know what I mean? I'm not really concerned. You know what I mean?

So it's like, I really got into that mode where I wanted to make powerful music. Right? So, and not to blame it on him, but it was like, he was the tail end of what kind of pissed me off. Like,

it was a point in New York where they were saying New York radio didn't sound like New York. Right? Like, all the way. That was true. And Trinidad James had did some type of show and he was on the stage and he was saying like how he was in New York and it didn't sound

like New York. And I'm like, wow. This is shit that you would hear behind closed doors, but this nigga really said it publicly. I remember. I was at that show. And at that point, I was working on my first installment with DJ Drama. There you went. Right?

So this goes back to answer your question of why I changed. He said, you New Yorkers don't even sound like New York rappers no more. At that point, I had 18 songs doing my personal rendition of what a trap song would be at that time. Right? Because when I'm thinking Gangsta Girls, I'm thinking, this is what you're

supposed to do. Right, right. It's drama. It's Gangsta Girls. Atlanta. So that was the last draw for me. I scrapped the whole project. Scrapped it.

Records with everybody from, you know, Dirk and Yo Gotti. Whoever was hot, you know what I mean? Damn, Trinidad James. Look what you did, yo. Fucking troublemaker.

I scrapped it, and then it turned into what we've known as all or nothing. Failure is no option. So when I first dropped it, a lot of people were saying, this is not what we was expecting, right? But in my heart, I'm feeling like this is the best music I'm making at this point because in retrospect, it's like really saying something. You know what I mean? So as time went on, like if I go on my Twitter right now

and I put a poll up and say, what do you think my top two projects are? Yeah. They're going to say Cold Corner and AON. Mm-hmm. Which is meaning that my fan base,

well, some of them are actually growing up. Yeah, that's exactly what happened. So we want certain things to happen

when we want it to happen. Like, we wanted Floyd and Pacquiao to fight when we wanted them to fight. Right. Right? We wanted Bad Boys 3

20 years ago. Didn't work out that way. It just didn't happen that way. You see what I'm saying? We never wanted Coming to America 2. Nobody asked for that shit, yo. Leave that movie alone, man.

And they got Bad Boys 4 coming for you. And they got Bad Boys 4 for your... happening. But it was a lot, to answer your question, it was a lot going on with me

in in my personal presence right so i start to question everything right and just my importance of what i'm really here for and i don't i've never really vocal i'm not the type to go and vent i'm not one of them guys. And I took a lot of losses, you know, personally. And, you know, I'm at the cemetery like every Sunday, if not, you know, every other Sunday. You know, that's why I go to kind of like think. And I've been in some dark, dark places, you know. So I started thinking like, okay, well, at this point I'm going to be selfish, you know so i started thinking like okay well at this point i'm gonna be selfish you know

and i'm gonna do something that when my kids get older they'll hear this out of me and understand i actually was saying something and then i'll get dms with people like sending like i got a dm yesterday with a with a kid telling me his father kind of put him onto my music and he just passed away. You know? And these are the records. These are the projects that resonated more with this way of thinking. Quote, unquote, hit shit or whatever. Right. So if somebody tells me, yo, Banks, oh, Blue Hefner, oh, you my nigga.

Those are for the oohs and aahs. Right. But then you start getting like daps that turn into hugs and shit. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. I worked with this know what I mean? Yeah. I worked with this guy for a decade. And I never told you I went to the cemetery to think.

To think I'm dark. What he does is therapeutic, too. Because Joe from early on is not mood music Joe. That's two different things. You know what i mean so once and once that happens you tap into uh a pocket where people are related relating to you on a whole another level and now you're rhyming for something different this motherfucker is human because i think that's the biggest misconception is that they think we're like remember remember um what's the movie uh do the right thing yeah remember he said

they're black but they're not like black black right yeah so I start thinking like damn these motherfuckers

actually think I'm like some ill nigga man and I probably done been through more you know just trials

and triple aces and shit than most of them. But you never let it on in the music. Right. But that's just my personality. Not music or publicly.

Right. Yeah, back to that Herman shit, man. Nobody would ever be able to say what he's really been feeling, thinking, or experiencing in the last how many years. Because at the end of the day, this is none of your business.

Right? And I don't want to sway people one way or the other. Like, when you make a decision to go from rap to doing a podcast, you have to be, in your mind, 100% locked into what you're doing. Definitely. So I have so much I want to do, so much I want to say. much i want to say and i figure i'm gonna have to stop rapping too completely unless i learn how to put that into the rap feel me so that was all my whole way of thinking and on on your point a lot of times i'm saying majority of the times the fans don't really know what they want.

Myself included. We'll sit there and say, yo, we wanted punchlines. We wanted this. We wanted this. And then we get the other project and it's like, oh, shit, this dope. We didn't even know we wanted this from you. That's what happens. Fans, fans.

Little sheepy b****. Fans never really know what they want. I hear it even about the pod. They'll say, yo, we want this. We want that. I think it's just different fans. i just think it's different fans you can have a million fans and 500 000 of them like this 300 000 like this 200 000 like this so you'll see different people that that get moved by different shit it's certainly louder than the other ones also the ones who didn't even know that they would like that because they never expected it from you i'm talking about that fan like i again i use myself as an example i was a

huge punchline fan right and when i first heard that first a win i was like ah this ain't really what i was checking for man but now when i go back i'm like oh shit this shit is ill yeah but if every fan is like that then all ideas will die when they're spawned every one of them which is why it's tough that's why they say there's a stubbornness that an artist needs that to everybody else may be stupid and unhealthy

and yo this nigga's hard headed and she don't listen to nobody but you need it to block out the just all the shit that you're gonna encounter Banks you know i appreciate you know i love you thank you thank you for coming huge fan i mean what else can i say you already know how i feel about you man i'm just glad you're back back out for them niggas yeah appreciate y'all man what up so we got the album Friday Album Friday Yeah album Friday man

The Course of the Inevitable 2 Sony Hall Fire Sony Hall As well Friday night As well right Yep

Yeah I'm going with you Security Yes sir Is that a safe show Yo yeah Very Very I'm a family man

I can't play around With you niggas So is he My kids That's why it's good to go Go to a bank show The last one was safe What you mean

The last few No I'm talking about The last one I went to I'm talking about The last one I went to Nah that's all But that's I ain't going front man

You want that now man We older Yeah I don't want that Because These artists man They dying before they even really

feel the love the genuine love right like they love the idea of the energy you bring right the record is fire

they love what comes with it the baggage the woman you know what I mean everybody's going there it's a place to be but niggas still might throw a bottle

when they get restless just to go back to their hood and be like I'm the nigga who threw that bottle and fuck throw a bottle when they get restless just to go back to they hood and be like I'm the nigga who threw that bottle and fuck this show up when you get

15, 20 years down man you can stand outside and they can make sure you get home safe you know what I mean like certain niggas could sleep

Jada could sleep on the park bench word word you see what I'm saying word niggas will stay there word I'm just go ahead get a nap I'm saying Word For the niggas to stay there Word

To you I'm just Go ahead get a nap I'm on my stand Get your seat I'll be here I got you You know what I'm saying

Word So it's to that point now As an artist And being in the game so long You know I genuinely Appreciate my fans I love them You know what I mean

I want them to get back Home to their kids True They didn't have Fucking kids When we started off They was kids Now we have a reason

To make it home Yeah Get home safe Yeah they didn't have fucking kids when we started off they was mad we have a reason it was kid make it home yeah you know I'm safe yeah mm-hmm true I agree and just be a relatable like when I you know I come on stage with all the jury and all that shit on I leave with none of it on none of it on I go up there I got this hat on black t-shirt and what I learned over the years is it makes you more relatable

that's true to your fans that's true then they can look like you facts so when they come you know what I mean so if Joe had that

white beat on it's gonna be niggas in the crowd with that white beat on eventually yeah and a hat to go with it right

Eminem come out he got his Nike hat They will call me a bunch of names if I came out with that thing they call me names now fuck y'all niggas call me Fuck you little niggas out there. I put a little picture up, thought I was cute. Niggas said, oh, look at Pop Smoked. I hate they little creative asses, yo. The pizza with the white beater on it was... No, that was funny. That took me out.

That was funny. Nah, I want to hear my shit, man. I don't care if it's fucking... Where my shit at real quick before we're on the way out? Yeah, I had some fun with this one too. Ladies and gentlemen, round of applause. Lloyd Banks, we thank him.

Oh my God. Joel. That's my man though, but. No, no, I know. I'm talking to Ice. Nervous. Oh, okay. Wait, what'd you say?

One of my biggest performance records. How could it not be? Oh, yeah, this me for a fernies $50 bills, $50 bills, keep it 20 I'ma go get a bidder, I'ma go get a spitter Go dig it, couldn't dig yourself a chip Dig yourself a hole, told him I was cold for me This nigga have some hard beats in his bitch

I need more hoes in my shit Homes in my whip, moe till I'm ripped I'm rich I'm free to stay in love Hey, I'm so hard, hard, hard You're the best, I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich Ladies, they love me, they love me I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich

I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich

I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm rich

I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich I'm rich, I'm rich I gotta be honest, man. Banks is one of my favorite people. That was amazing. That was great. Sorry to the people listening, but we just potted for another two hours in the backyard. For reals. That was great. He's great.

I wish I knew a better way to convey that to people. I didn't expect it, honestly. I know he's a great rapper, great artist, all that shit. I didn't know that he would be a great conversationalist like this. Because he's usually cool and quiet. He gave it up. You could tell he had a wealth of information, too. Because they was global artists.

You know what I'm saying? Them niggas wasn't regional. They wasn't even domestic US artists. Them niggas was all over the world so his experiences and the shit and just the money he's seen

the rooms he's been in is probably crazy and the ability to remain himself and an evolved version of himself and be consistent

in that with the changing times is remarkable to me yo sure like to avoid mess with street shit women any of the arrest things at least like to be is to speak to all the things you just spoke to and avoid all the distractions that exist as well is remarkable to me and still be a good human. Human being. Like a good dude.

Like a family man. The shit that he talked about that was- I've been harassing that man for a decade, over a decade to just talk. He reminded me like early Fab when only the niggas

that knew Fab knew he was funny because he wouldn't talk. He would never let you see that side. No personalities. Distant. Guarded. He reminded me of early Fab when only the niggas that knew Fab knew he was funny. Yeah. Because he wouldn't talk. He would never let you see that side. No personalities. Distant. Guarded.

That's always been, yo, talk. Nah. Nah. When I'm ready, I'm going to come talk. He came and talked. He did. Even the talks in the backyard. Yeah.

He gave it up. Great guy, man. Shout out to Banks. That was amazing. Shout out to Banks. For real. That was real dope. All right.

And it was nostalgic for me, man. I got to be honest. I like getting around them niggas because it's a small club, like he said. So when it's a few niggas from that club, it's like, yo, man. It's like when your a few niggas from that club that's like yo man it's like when your dad see niggas he went to high school with 50 years from now man oh man it

takes you back glad i beef with niggas like that yo nah for i'm honored i'm honored i am that's sicko shit, right? Yes. I mean, I get it, though. I get it, though. If you're going to beef with dudes, at least let it be good dudes at 20 years, 10 years, 15. Good men, yes. That you can make amends with. Grow from that.

Grow from that. Joke about it. Laugh, joke, harken back, reminisce, maybe get money with in the future. Like, you glad you beef with niggas like that? Makes you a lot stronger than beefing with people that are here today going tomorrow too. Not for nothing. Last nigga I fought, he didn't go to the internet. And I said, good to beef with a guy like that.

Like, that's what I mean yeah good man good man man good man I'm lucky all right uh sleepers yeah sleepers why not black let's go Umi says, some of y'all know that song I love when niggas do a cover that fits them Umi says it's real blackish, let's go then I don't wanna write this down, I wanna tell you how I feel right now I don't wanna take no time to write this down, I wanna tell you how I feel right now How I feel right now, yeah

Hey, tomorrow may never come For you or me, this life is not promised Tomorrow may never show up For you or me, this life is not promised I ain't no perfect man, I'm tryna do The best that I can with what it is I have I ain't no perfect man I'm tryna do the best that I can With what it is I have Put my heart and my soul in this song You feel me? From where I am to wherever you are

I mean that sincerely To see my people not shine, I swear that it kills me If you got a light, gotta be bright Remember the times they tried to conceal Tomorrow may never come For you or me, this life is not promised Tomorrow may never appear You better hold this very moment Very close to you right now Very close, very close to you So close, so close

I'm your only friend Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine, let it shine My homie said, shine your light on the world Shine your light for the world Shine your light for the world to see My I.B. says Shine your light on the world Shine your light for the world to see I want black people to be free

To be free, to be free I want black people to be free To be free, to be free I want my people to be free Shine your light on the world To be free people to be free I want black people to be free Sometimes I get discouraged I look around and things are weak I know this world producing evils, but won't let my heart skip a beat

Sometimes I just wanna fly away, skip the stress for brighter days I turn my everyday to a holiday, turn Sundays into Father's Day I never wanna jump in a war Or something going on outside These people that's running the world Run off money and loads of pride I'm saying just open your eyes It's alright in front of you, see

When my daughter grow up and hear this song The message is be what you wanna be Be the change that you really wanna see I just hope and believe for that Jump the hoops and achieve in it Think of my soul and probably bleed for that song That's all that matters to me That's all that matters to me That's all that matters to me That's all that matters to me

That's all that matters to me It's brand new, old, black, most def That's all that matters to me That's all that matters to me Umi says I did it justice Yeah, you did It was smooth Yeah, I'm not mad

Smooth, I wasn't mad at it Don't touch a classic I know, I agree I agree I was scared when I saw it But I was happy with the result Shout out to Black I was gonna play a record off of Banks Project

But I'll wait till that drops I'm gonna play this Gucci Man and Lil Baby record I was going to play a record off of Banks Project, but I'll wait until that drops. I'm going to play this Gucci man and Lil Baby record, All These Chains. Gucci really smoked this. That's great coming off of me, son. Yep. I don't like when we in the club cuz they get rained on We get up with niggas, we turn disses in the paint zone The fence pick up the case, he got a bun and money, bring him home How many you got, just bring him all on, miss, to get him gone I move like a ghost, I'm on the go, four weeks, I switch the phone

I walk in, I'll come, but I run shit, no cap, I set the tone You the tightest, that's for hoes, I'm the tightest, turn up the bros I wouldn't give a damn, they all for life, you better not break the code Know your brother ain't sweet, you tryna spree So they had white, you know So deep off in the street I saw my life, the way it's selling bold One Ferrari, cars, 900 bears, you know I pay cash Count the dicks, you just missing the look So I touch up her ass They just been out till I'm spinning again And bro, don't do your math

If I don't go, I'm gon' feel like a hoe We gon' get on your ass For the other side, you gon' get blitzed for tryna mediate I'm gon' run this money up no matter where you eat away My bullets don't discriminate, don't play with what I demonstrate Don't get shot on the interstate, your girlfriend hyperventilating R.I.P. the trouble and free thugger and free gunner too Why you at it? Freedom made a fool and free my nigga poo The D.A. bring up lyrics and the court may not be even true

And try to pin some shit next to your name that you ain't even do Fuck the other side, they need be shot for tryna duplicate And the court may not be even true And try to pin some shit next to your name that you ain't even do Fuck the other side that need be shot for tryna duplicate Ran out with the swear like they forgot where it originate Fuck the trolls, the blogs, the hoes, and yes man who be instigate Hit him in the head and he survive, it's still a mental patient I don't even have to drop no payments, they feel obligated Shit so complicated, now the killers be cooperating

Feds investigated but I made made it never gave a statement aka big gucci or big guap never caught me raising ain't nobody say so i took locks cause they don't have a safety i got killer scrapped i lonely yeah weed are so isolated and i'm gonna be a until i'm aided that's the hood that made me i didn't sow so many 200 babies think i'm born and graded You can't smoke that. It's just a hook from there. But yo, when I first heard that, I said, holy shit. The hell was on his mind? He had some shit to get off his chest.

Yes, he did. Fucking ticked him off. Somebody pissed him off. Why he did that? I fail. That's Gucci and Lil Baby, all these chains. I don't know if I ever even heard him do that. I fail As Gucci and Lil Baby All these chains I don't know if I ever

Even heard him do that I don't think I have either I have a couple times But it's been a minute Since he really spazzled Nah you niggas Tick this nigga off I've never heard that

He took flight on that I can't remember a Gucci verse Where I was like Oh shit I got a couple He might have smoked man Ain't no mitre in it Yeah there's no mitre

I mean I'm trying to be nice Okay Yeah well Yeah he did He did get to smoking He got to smoking Smoke, man. Ain't no mitre in it. Yeah, there's no mitre. I mean, I'm trying to be nice. Okay. Yeah, well. Yeah, he did get to smoking. Got to smoking. That was crazy. Yeah, that was dope. That's why I had to play it as a sleeper.

I mean, it ain't, you know, it's Gucci and Lil Baby. It's a, you know, it's going to be a, it ain't really a sleeper, but niggas got to hear this verse. Yeah, I'm not really playing a sleeper. This is West Side Gun, Horses on Sunset, Stove God, Mad Lib. They might have put you in the group. Yeah. He got to go in the group. Deadass.

Stove God. I know who he is. Yeah, he got to be dishwasher God. Venturina Jones. You're dry, let the work drip dry Blood on your shirt, let it drip dry They said they shot him six times I said you should've shot him seven, then he could've died holy Die holy, with your chain on and your rollie They said they shot him six times I said you should've shot him seven And he could've died, I'm only I got the Benz pumped up, sun set, sink and swim

Pied-de-corps, Dan caught again A half a mill upon my arm again Piece of Shefflin's, I got the square shits, more Valens They say Jesus was a carpenter, I'ma shoot it up Bitches want to know my net worth, you can google those They said Lord, by a few digits I got stupid dope, if we get put Put this in your pussy on my crack bags

Spread it like peaches I'm on the dance floor, tens got creases The old snob look a less with y'all sneakers I'm on the yard in Adidas, they don't even sell Adidas Back in 04, carry you for strut like she a diva See the last week she smoked a teapot Her and G and Gia came through Try to set a title to a Kia

She wanted 900 maybe buy the cleaners Drip dry let the work drip dry Blood on your shirt let it drip dry They said they shot him six times I said you shoulda shot him seven then he coulda died holy Die holy Put your chain on and you rollie They said they shot him six times I said you shoulda shot him seven then he coulda died holy That's fire That shit's hard That's fire One more time

One more time That's horses on sunset Westside Gun still gone Off Peace Fly Guy See And that's my That's my Westside Gun beef Right there

What's that? Cause he can do that He can do that And I love it And then I ain't gonna hold you Every day it get harder To have any beef

With Westside Gun Yo He can do that Like if you really Just start watching him I ain't gonna hold you Every day it get harder To have any beef With West Side Gun Yo He could do that Like if you really Just start watching him closely It's getting tough To have any beef With what he's doing

Oh no no no I'm just meant When I said I didn't like The music Like I didn't like He could do this Hell shit like this Exactly

But that's what make it even flyer, Connor. He doing it the way it's supposed to be done, yo. Absolutely. I'm getting art off through these billboards, through y'all, because that's just how I got to do it. But I'm over here. You see where my true passion is.

And I'm going to crack you niggas in a minute. He been cracking you niggas. Yeah, but the real, real crack is coming soon. I guess it's real. You can feel that in the air. You see it? I'm telling you. One day I'm a pod for real, yo.

No, that ain't even, like, you can see that. I know how that go a little bit now. Everybody wasn't happy when Royce went and made an album with him. go a little bit now. Everybody wasn't happy when Royce went and made an album with him. That's a tough... Hey, I'm not judging it. That's a tough pill to swallow.

Just leave here and just crack some shit right quick. I'm going to be happy for him, but it's going to be a long, sleeping night for me. Yeah, nah, we're going to have a good talk soon. But shout out to Westside. That shit was hard.

Nah, they smoked that. Yeah, nah. That was hard. What you got, Ish? Ish, everybody's smoking the sleepers today. There's pressure on you. That's what they did? Everybody kind of did, yeah.

All right, I don't want no sauce, bro. Well, we'll find out in a second. I'm playing some old music. What new little light-skinned mermaid did you find out the ocean? Except with seven plays. In Australia. At the bottom of England. Yeah, at Century 21.

Who bought a tire? Bought a tire rack? Oh, man. Yo, it's an old talk. It's Jasmine Sullivan featuring her, Girl Like Me. Okay. All right. All right.

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Wish I could return this tender But you don't love me no more And I don't even know what for Knew it was real when you blocked me Now I said it all, I'm judging my body Wondering what I did to lose you Why in the hell you ain't choosing Why you don't love me no more

And I don't even know what for I just wanted something different Still don't know what I was missing What you asked, I wouldn't give It ain't right how these hoes be winning Why they be winning? No hopeful girl like me I'll come and be when I'm dead

And I ain't wanna be, but you gon' make it all out of me Yeah, you gon' make me a god damn Maybe I should look like a stripper Wearing fashion over dresses While those dudes be so pressed and impressed with it Leave me with no choice I can't do this good girl shit no more Your room was one and something different still

Don't know what I was missing but you asked I would've given It ain't right, all these hoes be winning Yeah, they be winning I'm a hopeful girl like me I'm gonna let it be winning And I ain't wanna be But you gon' make a whole lot of me Y'all niggas be making a scene

They say y'all don't know why we mad So we start acting like we don't care, yeah Cause y'all niggas be taking a step Cause you don't want us no more, ooh It breaks us to the core, ooh Boy, you must want something different Still don't know what you was missing What you asked, I would've given It ain't right how these hoes been winning And what they be winning

Oh, oh, oh, girl like me How come they be winning? Oh, I ain't wanna be But you gon' make a whole lot of me A whole lot of me Yeah That's what you wanted That's what you get

A whole lot of me Look what you did That is Girl Like Me Jasmine Sullivan featuring her Awesome sleeper segment Indeed Look what that dude did. That is Girl Like Me, Jasmine Sullivan featuring her. Awesome sleeper segment. Indeed. You gentlemen.

Pretty good pause. Thank you gentlemen for your fine work this evening. This nigga has some slaps, man Alright, we gone Hopefully y'all enjoyed this As much as we enjoyed giving it to you Pause Keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there

Until the next time I bid you adieu Farewell, adios, arrivederci Hasta la vista, au revoir, so long, goodbye Remember life is a series of moments And moments pass So let's make this one last As if it's all we have Do remember

There's a whole new crop of young bitches out there That's just finding out that y'all do a podcast They in the dear They in the podcast Stupid You did it How could you Y'all miss

And lastly the best How could you? Y'all miss. And lastly, the baddies. We need to do a podcast. Can I come on there? Stupid, y'all. Can I come on your podcast? What are we going to talk about? I don't know.

I think we can figure something out. And lastly, the baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel, and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things. And the young girls wanna grow up. They trying to get grown. What was the Toys R Us mascot named? Jeffree? Hey, this ain't for the Jeffree Jeffree can send his ass back to the desert

I'm the better one Chill sex is the 187, hun You got a nigga doing shit Just kidding So now, when I'm on tour, I let it come Ayy Thank you to Bang, shout out to Hovang You do

Everything was upside down. Now I'm right back where I belong. And the fans. No, us without you. I don't do. Before we leave, it's being reported out there that the Jazz have expressed willingness to listen to trades for Donovan Mitchell. Not even two seconds later, a report came out. Said the New York Knicks are quickly putting a package together.

You don't think that package is already put together? They're going to give them a piece of the garden. You don't think it was put together already, though? They're going to make some real estate to come to New York. Nigga, they had that package set. Oh, man, this is about to be the worst defensive backcourt in the world. Donovan Mitchell and Jalen Brunson. Wow.

Easy buckets. Oh, man. I think me and Isha stole it. No, n Easy buckets. Oh, man. I think me and Isha's taller than them niggas. Oh, this is scary. Yeah, this nigga's stupid. Hey, to really finish it off, let's just have Richard Jefferson officiate every Knick game, home game, this year. That'll really drive this one home.

All right. That's all I got. We are the New York. You think RJ's gone? In that trade yet? Y'all are gonna hear The whole team out Y'all will give them Spike

Hello RJ JP Any other alphabet You wanna name Are gone nigga RJ Barrett Our draft pick

That we drafted Our third pick Yes Bye Fam I said Y'all will send Spike Bye I don't care

y'all niggas will trade Spike alright wait before we leave Patrick Ewing see ya can y'all be serious for a second guys this is my team

Randall Barrett tell me the package y'all would y'all would put together and then we leave y'all gonna have to give them a point guard back so one of them

good draft picks y'all had last year cause y'all drafted two good guards not Quigley. Deuce McBride. The young boys that can shoot. And Grimes. Grimes, Randall,

Barrett, and some picks. Huh? That's a steal. For who? For Donovan McNichol? You heard him? He said it's a steal. Give me your package. I think you're going to have to give up a lot of draft picks

if you just give up them two guys. No, I want to hear what you would give up. Let's get three. What would you do with the team? With what the Knicks have? Damn near whatever it would take. Holy shit. I'm on the point.

Ice? Who y'all want? Yeah, pick. Go ahead. Look, this is a roster. Pull it up. I'll send you the link. So y'all want me to, pick. Go ahead. Look, this is a roster. Pull it up. I'll send you the link. So y'all will make the same Carmelo thing again.

Nah, nah. You know why? Because of the pick. We gutted the team for Carmelo. Nah, the pieces that y'all got left is all right. Yeah. Y'all picked up. Yo, y'all pieces are all right.

Who you want? Y'all forgetting. I think Cam Reddish is going to be a star, yo. He might not be a superstar. He's going to be a star. He's in that package. He's in that package. He's in that package. I got to keep Cam.

Let me put together the package, then we'll get out of here. Grimes? I think they'll get... Oh, man, I like him. I like him, too. I think Cam Reddish is out of here because they've been trying to get him out of here. Definitely trading for him. You'll have to include either Toppin or Quickly, one of them.

And I think they'll probably want Quickly. Quickly goes. Make too much money. How much money does Donovan Mitchell make? Oh, Julius Randle got to go. Julius Randle's gone. Barrett is gone. Grimes.

I think y'all keep Cam. I think RJ Barrett stays. Oh, and Fournier. Fournier's gone. And that might be too much money. Too much money. That's too much money. That one's got to match.

That's too much money. Cam Reddish is going to stay with y'all because he don't make no money. Oh, so Fournier. Fournier's gone. And that might be too much money. Too much money. That's too much money. That one's got to match. That's too much money. Cam Reddish is going to stay with y'all because he don't make no money. Oh, so Fournier's in that. That's $18 million. I get this deal done without sending Barrett is my point. I think I can do it. I think you've got, they might want Barrett and Fournier. Y'all going to want five first round draft picks.

Y'all going to want five first round draft picks. And I'm sending RJ Bears. Don't y'all have a couple next year? First round picks. Remember? We do. Dog, y'all got a bunch of two threes. Y'all got to give them away.

Oh, fuck. It's depressing. All right, you guys. Bye. Bye, then. Forget Bye. Bye then. Forget it. Forget we ever potted.