The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 553 | "Monetize This"

Episode Date: July 30, 2022

The pod wars continue, and Joe welcomes all smoke, addressing Peter Rosenberg's most recent comments (9:30). Beyoncé delivers her latest album, RENAISSANCE (27:55), Jimmy Butler gets a new hairstyle (1:05:55), and Meek Mill is officially an independent artist (1:19:20). Kyler Murray and Zion Williamson's introduce new contract structure in sports (1:44:15), Part of the Show segment (2:03:45) and PJ Morton joins the podcast (1:05:10).   Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP.: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks Joe | Melii - “F.B.D.C” Ice | DaniLeigh - “Dead To Me” Parks | Girll Codee - “Codee World” Ish | Vedo & OG Parker - “Come First” (Ft. Baby Tate)

This side of the room, y'all better not talk to me about being pussy. I'm going to step out there today. Me? All right, that's our start right there. That's our start. We got it. All right. Yo, you.

Take seven. All right, mic check, mic check. One, two, one, two, one, two. You're going to step out there today. Y'all believe him? Alex, you believe him? I believe him today y'all believe him Alex you believe him I believe him Ish you believe him

he always alright alright we ain't gonna spend time do you think that Ish gonna step out there today no no Alex how about you

who Ish yeah Ish gonna keep it cool so no yeah nah I don't think Parks is either hey yo you niggas is nutcases

me Parks are you gonna step out there today maybe I don't think Parks is either Hey yo you niggas Is nutcases Me? Parks are you gonna Step out there today? Maybe I'm trying to think Of the list of topics And uh I'm lost

I don't think there's Anything I need to kill today I stepped out last week I stepped right out last week Y'all was Churchmouse on that That song Until I stepped out

Division That was Churchmouse I had a whole Fucking soliloquy about it. Yeah, but y'all had to get warmed up first. I didn't think the song was that bad, so I just stood on the opposite side of the street. And then left and had to tap the phone calls

about my take. Did your phone ring? Yeah, my phone was gonna ring. They put pressure on you? They paid me. I'm sorry, they paid you? So that's what you're starting with? Yo, y'all think I'm sorry they paid you sir look look up man so that's what

we're starting with yo y'all think I'm a shit ball now what if I did payola yo I'm trying to do payola y'all think the integrity version

of me is a shit ball man this guy is stupid oh if I did payola oh man as long as I figure it out but you know what so

that's the failure I am cause I don't think I would be I don't think know what? That's the failure I am. Because I don't think I would be so well liked if I tried to get everybody to like me. Like, I watch people on the internet, and I do be, I think that's a talent. Like, when people are trying to be well liked and it's working. I mean, what the fuck? That's because they play it so safe. Like, you make it hard to not like you because the ones that's playing that game don't really step out either way.

So let me ask you a question. They keep that shit safe. Why can't that just be genuinely them? Fam, you can't. Nobody likes everything. Stop it. No, you don't have to like everything. But the things that you don't like, you don't got to say nothing about them.

That be some people's stance. I'm not even talking. It just don't have nothing to do with us. Like, if I don't like your shit, I don't got to say, yo, that shit trash. I just be some people's stance. I'm not even talking, it just don't have nothing to do with us. Like, if I don't like your shit, I don't gotta say, yo, that shit trash. I just don't bring it up. Ta-da. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's it. We do a little bit of that, too, though.

Damn, thank you. Come on. Yo, fam. Yo, you all right? I can't believe it this nigga just went and got the Ola Mary hat and they just

started going crazy what's wrong with you would you like us to attempt to do a podcast where we do not discuss anything

that we do not like no because what happened no no I'm explaining I'm explaining the difference you've built your brand on this brash

honesty that some people will say hate. So a lot of the fans be mad now. Like, yo, this nigga don't even give it up the way he used to. That is what you built the brand upon. Some other niggas come in the game. That's not what they stand on. That's not what they built their brand on. And so nobody's expecting that from them.

It's not here because, because again you already built that brand based on that some niggas don't think you could do that if you're building your brand no i think if you built your brand on something else then you could do that well that's what i'm saying your brand is putting up houses quickly not me so why you can't come in here and say hey that shit sucks you can okay if but

again so some people they just play the safe road and they've been successful at doing it because nobody's expecting them

to jump on the other side you don't date girls to get high right I have we're kinda high though Alex Alex you We're kind of high, though. Oh, fuck. That's a kook, yo. Alex. Yo, Alex.

Yo, you're on gay. That's a kook, yo. You lost me. Yeah, you can't. You. I know. I know. Why she can't smoke?

She can. I didn't know what type of high he was talking about. Weed high? Yes. Yeah, they can smoke. Yeah, I don't know what type of high he was talking about. Weed high? Yes. Yeah, they can smoke. Yeah, I don't give a fuck. Are you going to talk? If they smoke?

Yeah, while they smoke. I don't know what you're talking about. Yo, I'm trying to run it through my brain like, where's the... Jose, you're going to blow their high. Oh, my God, yo. This nigga is a high killer. He got

examples for examples. The fact like, the guy... Let me out the fucking work span. Oh, man. Alright. Holy shit. Holy shit, yo. There are are shows there are jabroni shows out there that are ranked higher than us because their people review it more often and more regularly and more recently and they have new subscribers and one app should not be hovering listen i don't care that's why

i haven't mentioned it very much because we don't look at it very much anymore. But as we make this push, Juan F. shouldn't be 50th on the podcast. Music fucking podcast. I'm not going to live 49 spots below Joe Budden, okay? I know he's a very compelling guy, but give me a break. What the fuck is Joe saying?

It's 49 spots more interesting than what we're doing on Juan F. Just because he's yelling louder? Yeah, he's a loud yeller. So hit us up. No, nigga, ain't nobody hitting you. Shut the fuck up. And that's

psych, man. Shout out to the man. That's hate. That's hate, by the way. Oh, wait. Hold up for two seconds. Audience, listening, wait. So wait. Hold on for two seconds. Audience listening and viewing. I cannot promise you that there will not be shots fired at some of these fraudulent fucking podcasters.

All right? Because I'm with the podcast. I keep saying it. That's him. Joe Anthony Budden Jr. Not keep saying it. That's him. Joe Anthony Budden Jr. Not him. Not him.

Not him. Clear it the fuck out. It's me. Get your shit off, bro. That's it. Now. Pete. What is Pete doing? bro that's it now pete what is pete doing who said that pete pete rosenberg peter rosenberg what's pete doing i didn't know no disrespect to him i didn't know why that was back and this ain't about pete what has gotten in the podcast the other is something in the water

something in the air something going on he said? You shouldn't be mad about the Apple charts like that. Like, really. You shouldn't be mad about no charts like that. I mean, facts. It's a fucking chart. Yeah. Do what you're doing. If the shit say 50,

well, man, I don't know. I don't know. I don't even know what to say about it. Shout out to Pete and Syph, man. That was hate, though. Pete, that was hate. That's what I'm saying.

That was hate. I think men have no idea when they Syph, man. That was hate, though. Pete, that was hate. That's what I'm saying. That was hate. That was hate. I think men have no idea when they're hating, maybe. Oh, wait, wait. They just got to... You're contending the hate? Why the fuck are y'all saying shout to them? Y'all didn't say that.

I fuck with them. I fuck with them. Y'all didn't say that. I told you how I feel. I don't believe in that whole I'm playing cool with you even if we not cool. Oh, see. I just don't. Back to that. I don't. in that whole I'm playing cool with you Even if we not cool Well see I just don't Back to that I don't

What do you say? I'm saying shout to them Because mine and Cypher's Mine and both of their relationships Span Especially Cypher 20 Over 20 years

So Yeah There is no Do they know that? Yeah So therefore Shut your fucking mouth And don't bring me

act like it act like it y'all have to stop this is just podcast yeah y'all have to stop it's dead if we cool

y'all understand I don't understand I'm introducing a new segment this podcast called monetize this part all you niggas out there that take the clips

talk spicy all you niggas that's that take the clips, talk spicy, all you niggas that's playing the monetization game, I sit back chilling. And then it's one second I get mad and start throwing eggs out the window, these niggas be like, oh shit, Joe gone crazy. It's not Joe gone crazy,

I'm just that nigga. That's it. Pete know that Joe's not just loud. Pete know that. We gotta stop with these narratives, Joe's just loud. No, Joe's not just loud Pete know that We gotta stop with these narratives Joe's just loud No Joe's a fucking genius Pete Say that part

Anyway I'm shocked that he said that I am too I'm not I think it's kind of funny I think it's hilarious I think it's pretty funny It's funny

It's funny It's funny It's funny yo Y'all don't think pod wars is funny Y'all remind me of when stack bundles used to read the internet comments

and wanna go shoot the fans not the fans not the fans other niggas and it ain't the fans it's other niggas

that I'm supposed to be cool with that part that's it if we cool nigga act like we cool look we just had this conversation

it depends we literally this is a spin where we talked about yo I'm just gonna not say nothing That's it If we cool nigga Act like we cool Look we just had this conversation It depends We literally This is a spin Where we talked about Yo I'm just gonna not say nothing If I don't like your shit I'ma just shut up So

That's no fun When niggas start getting punch That don't be fun You don't punch someone What are you talking about What are y'all talking Yo if y'all don't get this East orange. What are you talking about, yo? What are y'all talking, yo? If y'all don't get this East Orange behavior,

this ghetto bullshit behavior. What are y'all talking about? Oh, we will lose your board seat easy. You go fighting at the party. Go keep fighting at the party. No, definitely not. But I'm not going to be Kikian. That's all.

I'm not Kikian, Joe. I'm not Kikian. That's what it is. What y'all going to do when niggas's what it is what y'all gonna do when niggas start sending pod shots at y'all nothing nothing i'm sure it's happening whoa whoa whoa no well it depends on who it is it depends on who it is if the wrong nigga sent a pod shot and i know you personally i'm gonna eat your fucking lunch but if it's a nigga that i don't know i don't know you my nigga't know you, my nigga.

You don't exist to me. You running the race against me, and I don't even know you exist. So it's a different response. And these things be compliments, right? Because you don't even do this without. It is a backhanded compliment. You don't even do this without people having an audience or doing something. I'm telling you. I don't care about none of that shit.

Not just that. So look, let's just say a nigga take a shot. I know him or i don't care about none of that shit yeah not just that yo you can't so look let's just say a nigga take a shot i know him or i don't know him yeah you can't see me in the club and come up to me and shake my hand right get the fuck away from me yeah why nigga because if that's what you want stay on that stay there but not and it depends on the shot too though you know what's cool's a personal shot. He's right. That's true.

It depends on the shot. Listen, listen. That matters. Perfect example. Perfect example. Yesterday, I go get my mani-pedi. I'm in mani-pedi vibe. I go next door, get a slice of pizza.

I leave to get the slice of pizza. Who do I see? Look who God put right in front of my face. That nigga that I had to lock the slice of pizza who do I see look who God put right in front of my face that nigga that I had to I had to lock myself in my house to make sure I didn't do nothing to this nigga and God put him right in front of the pizza place by himself

and I was by myself all of my businesses just started doing this cause reaction mode was oh word all of my businesses just started doing it. Because reaction mode was, oh, word. This is the, it couldn't have been a better place inside that little parking lot. I'd have been, this would have been. But all of the businesses and all of the mature people listening, like adult, senior people listening.

So I walked by and didn't say a word. Not a little nod? A nod. If I get my hands on this boy, I wouldn't do anything. I don't write my raps. Cap it, cap it.

It's all cap. Y'all think the cops are stupid. Go ahead, man. Stop, yo. But anyway, the point is, to Parks' point, depends on what's going on. That shit he said, no, we will never kiki again. This could have went different. I'm not going to do nothing to you, but this could have went different.

This? No. No, not that. That Drake shit? No. I brought this up so we could laugh and have? No. No, not that. The Drake shit? No. I brought this up so we could laugh and have some fun. No, I agree.

Y'all niggas is putting a battery in my back. No, it's not. I said the Drake shit was hateful. Oh, my team is with the shit too this year. Let's go. Let's go, yo. No, I didn't think the Drake shit was hateful. I thought that was fun too.

But this is funny. That ain't funny to me. Why are we 50 spots below him? Because you're not as good. Or you didn't do whatever it took to build your brand up to where he is. Fuck out of here. Or you just 50 spots below, nigga. That's where you at.

Don't get mad at me. We might be the Pistons with these two, man. He's definitely fucking lame beer. Yeah, word. Rick Mahorn. Yeah, look at definitely fucking lame beer. Yeah, word. Rick Mahorn. Yeah, look at Ice, yo. What is going on? Mic check, one, two, one, two.

Y'all know what the fuck time it is. Hey, wait a minute. Ready? Yo, I'm wondering. Yo, I was waiting for someone to start rapping. Y'all like, oh, this is what kind of party we at today? Yo, what fucking version is this? Huh? Instrumental? What is going on here, yo?

Where's Matthew? You cut meff off the song. Let me Matthew? You cut meff off the song? Let me find out what you cut meff off the song. What this nigga did with that? Ain't that the same shit? Oh, man. Man, boss is shit.

Let's just do his verse for him. Let me find out you mad at Matthew. You done took the dick off the floor. Oh, man. Y'all funny today. Crazy, though. Now it's going to look like beef, but I think there's a mystery.

Something's going on with that record. I had that record in my computer and now it's gone I try to buy it it's gone yeah the real the right one is not there that's crazy

the one what I told you all about streaming that's why he says what he says about streaming that's true I totally agree I probably do have it

in my library though I 100% have it there's no reason that I don't I have to have that record 20 million times on this laptop but the show must go on 100% have it. There's no reason that I don't. I have to have that record 20 million times on this laptop.

But the show must go on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's right, that's right Bad bitch, I don't care I love you so much I can't give you one more chance I can't give you one more chance I can't give you one more chance Number three, Oz Rest in peace, B.I. Shout out to Brooklyn First things first, I pop on freaks all behind me And that's back to my question, when does hate stop? I know, we answered it, but

And you don't know that niggas is hating until they start like door knobs hot drop never you can kind of assume that people are hating you're in the same business and you're you're maybe doing better than them publicly perception at least you could probably assume that they're hating on you a little bit I don't do that depends on the person like some niggas really wish you well I don't agree with that. I don't do that. Depends on the person. Like, some niggas really wish you well. I don't know that that clip says that they don't wish him well.

I agree. No, not that particular clip. You said just somebody's in your industry and you're doing a little bit better than them. They're saying you can assume that there's a good chance.

There's a lot of haters out there. Some niggas are just haters. No, that's true. They just flat out hate everybody. I think there's more haters than there's not haters. Absolutely. Well-wishers.

I think Isha's point is, and I think we've unpacked this at the top, but I think what Isha's saying is the people that you have these relationships with that you know and are somewhat cool with, you don't expect the hate from. For sure. In a business, anything, dog, if your body was crazy, pause, right? It's not. And I was trying to get my...

You're really starting off somewhere else here today. No, no, listen. And I was trying to get my shit right. I'm going to call my man and be like, yo, what do I got to do

to do X, Y, and Z? Because I fuck with you. So I think that the door would be open for me to improve. Because you fuck with his body. I wouldn't just be tight. Now see,

it's a lot of niggas that will do everything in the world but call you and ask you that that is true and those be that's where the hate comes let me help you out with some context too about the hate pete was here at the start of this podcast i know oh so then that helps you with oh if you know that but if i had my own and i'm pete and i feel i got a decent rapport with you still i'm gonna pick up the phone and say yo what do i have to do to get x y and z i'm at a hurdle i'm at a place what would you recommend or suggest that i do to do this that requires me though yeah but if you're doing that that's what i'm saying like if people put it if he had done that

and put his pride to the side and was vulnerable and picked up the phone and was like, Joe, we have a relationship. I've known you for X amount of years. You're thriving now. You're doing really good. I'm trying to figure out how I can get my shit to the next level. Is there any way that you can give me some counsel here? Then I would say, Pete,

like, all you got to do is get the fuck off my bed. That's exactly why the nigga ain't pick up the phone. See, I know. Shout to Pete. I see why he ain't pick up the phone. No, but honestly, the second you get the fuck off of my dick and focus on your craft, you be.

See, I'm joking. I'm joking. In Pod Wars, you supposed to be able to joke with niggas, yo. I'm joking. I'm joking. In Pod Wars, you're supposed to be able to joke with niggas, yo. I'm joking. You should. Yo. That's why I ain't doing the Pod Wars shit. You know what?

Welcome to episode 553. What is the hell? 553 is the Joe Budden Podcast. And if it's up, then that's where it's staying, bitch. And that's how it should be, though. But don't kiki with me if it's up. Yeah, but I's staying bitch and that's how it should be though but don't kiki with me if it's up yeah but I don't put it up

like y'all do y'all put it up quick like yeah violently too if you showing me that it's up but that ain't up okay cool that ain't up

the Drake shit ain't up that's not up again I have two totally different I think the Drake shit was fun I think there's friendly hate yeah nah I don't think it was hate

I just think it was fun I just think it was It was fun I just think when a person has How's everyone doing? Doing great Doing great Oh doing amazing Yeah I was up till 3 in the morning

Watching Bad Bunny do a Concert in Puerto Rico I thought you was gonna say You was up listening to Yeah you really gotta You gotta man crush on Bad Bunny He just makes some bops man I don't know what to tell you

I don't know I don't think you I don't think you really Put man crush on Bad Bunny, yo. He just makes some bops, man. I don't know what to tell you. I don't know. I don't think you really put the music on. Bad Bunny is your man crush, yo. I mean, maybe. I don't care. I'm okay with that.

You could see him in a P-Valley scene, couldn't you? Fill her up, buddy. Fill her up. It's cool. I'm okay.'s cool I'm comfortable with my sexuality there you go

you my guy you my man that's why that's why I be on clubhouse why if he mad niggas on this

a trans person be like yo you was fucking me I got the DMs I got the nigga be like I yo, you was fucking me. I got the DMs. I got the messages. Nigga would be like, I was trolling.

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Huh? Never mind. Come on. Let's keep it pushing. Yeah, move along.

Back to Parks at 3 a.m. Watching Bad Bunny in his bed with his wife. With his brightness on a thousand. Whole room was blue. Just for the TV. Under the blanket. No, all of them. All six, seven of them.

What was your takeaway? Unpack that again. He's the man. You said he was three hours straight? I think it was more like four or five. He's not a quickie guy. Dang, he got that much bops? He's got a lot of bops, yo.

I don't care. I don't know. Once people have established with me that they're dominant and they're the man, I ignore them now. I just feel down on myself. Yo. That shit was impressive. He's above the hate. Can't hate on him.

He might be. Can't hate on a nigga. Well, see, yes. Well, that's the thing about hate. Once you establish the dominance, you still got haters. But now they've learned to shut the fuck up. You can't budge me. Sorry, I'm here.

Shut up. You can't budge me. Sorry, I'm here. Like, in my head, I think I'm in a place where I want the likes of Consequence and exes of mine to never mention me. I think I've leveled away from y'all.

And y'all see it and fucking Chingy, every time I try to leave, some keep pulling me back. Telling me, I need you in my life. Anyway. They like to

throw your name in the mix, Joe. I would hope for me to get that. People get attention off your name. I don't even know Consequence, yo. We did a show like you know at some point you got to put your rapper shit in the closet and just come out with like the real shit like we don't know each other yo we not crossing paths like we did the verses you lost what is going on you're in consequence to the verses? Yeah.

The fist verses. Chill. Leave that alone, man. That nigga went and said, I didn't. No, you're going to stop talking about him. You think he's going to stop talking? Because one day I feel, I like to play too. That's what niggas really don't know about you. I love to play.

Who can land the most of these? It was in front of his loved one. It was so bad, she was screaming in agony. Make it stop. And I had to press the... All right, man. Go pump it up off. That's me saying that.

Not them. Come on, Beyonce came out. Beyonce came out. There we go. Beyonce came out. There we go. Fucking consequence. Hey.

Y'all good now? Everybody all right? Yes. Man, we good. Is the air cleared? let's see the air's mad clear I'll get back to

lighting his ass up for the rest of this pod at some other time I got business to tend to Beyonce Renaissance part one of three is now officially announced

I believe or at least it's out yeah the information is out there she's gonna have a three pack for us came out two days early One of three is now officially announced, I believe. Or at least... It's out. Yeah. The information is out there. She's going to have a three-pack for us. Came out two days early.

It leaked two days early. And no one listened to it, according to her Instagram. She wrote a heartfelt letter. No one listened to it. I think some people probably listened to it, but that's all good. Oh, okay. I'm going to say, I definitely listened to it. Secondary.

Then sent it around. And that shit started making rounds, too. I didn't listen to it. Secondary. Then send it around. And that shit start making rounds, too. I didn't listen to it, though. I didn't listen to it. I don't never send me no music, man. Because what you going to do with it? I listen to Beyonce. I won't listen to Roscoe the Shooter. I'm going to listen to Beyonce, though.

So you want him to take you to comedy shows and send you music on? Oh, that was hate. That was hate Niggas gotta stop hating That's crazy But go ahead Oh man yo Oh man

Nah nigga could've sent me The I mean I could've To your Android That's what I was getting to I got an iPhone nigga And you know the number Now what's your point

The one you always lose Could you imagine me Sending him like A link Like how i send it to y'all yo fam what i do with this you do x y and z i'm not instruct no no it's out see this is why black people can't get nowhere you know i mean we help each other no i was just telling ice on the way here my days are showing up for people is almost over. I ain't gonna lie to you.

You know how you do 40 years of service and then it's like a retirement or some shit where the game gives back to you now? I think I'm there in my showing up for people. I'm getting there.

These niggas show up with catastrophes. I want you to put it out. In last minute emergency. Like, oh yeah, it's your problem now Here take your whole day Away from you

Fix this problem Yeah A lot of that happens Depends on the person man Yeah The list of people That can do that Is getting smaller and smaller

As it should Put it that way Oh no my shit already small No my shit has been small Now it's becoming like One name Oh You think

You remember that show Alienation? No. With the spots on his head? I actually remember that one. They couldn't get in the salt water? Look at the shit they put on TV. Yo, oh man. I remember Alienation.

It was a... Man, get that I remember Alien Nation. It was a... I ain't get that on your Buffalo cable. Niggas ain't have but four channels up there. All right, so Renaissance. Renaissance, it's out. Let me hear it, man. That's why Park keeps saying it's out. What do you think?

I think I'm about as qualified to break down this album as I am to break down a country music album I

hey man I don't listen to dance music this is when Park's would hit the pusillanimous drop

for someone else pusillanimous I'm highly I'm definitely scared to death of Beehive and yeah I don't listen to death of Beehive. And, yeah, I don't listen to dance music.

I don't know how to fucking review this. The beats sound good. It's mixed well. The melodies are cool. What the fuck? Oh, shit. He pulled them all. He's short-circuiting.

Oh, shit. Oh, no. All of his phrases are spilling out of it. Oh shit, he's leaking musicology. I don't know how to break down dance music. Well, just keep doing what you was doing just now. What about the melodies in the mix? Sounds good.

I'm not going to listen to it again. Really? Probably not. I don't like dance music that much What you think Ish I got down to Song 7 The church girl song So far

It's dope to me But again I could appreciate Y'all from Jersey I'm going to get my dick sucked so crazy To the church girl Oh my god Church girl

That's the one It came on I ain't. Church girl. That's the one. It came on. I ain't gonna lie. No, that's the one. Yo, it opened up a little soft. I was like, okay. It's called church girl. Then that beat dropped.

I was like, oh. And then she started talking that shit. I said, oh, okay. BB. You know the girls listen to Beyonce. Yes, they do. Once Beyonce starts saying, drop it like a thotty,

drop it like a thotty. Tickle bitties. Yeah. Yeah, they do. Once Beyonce starts saying, drop it like a thotty, drop it like a thotty. Tickle bitties. Yeah. Yeah, they listen. Lil' Kim told them it was cool. That's true. Take it in the book. Yo.

They started doing it. I might be done. This review is pretty good. I might be done for the day. Kim told them she used to be scared of him. We know what Kim said, bro. What are you doing, buddy? Holy shit.

Don't talk into the mic. You don't need that advice. Oh, Lord. You ain't ready to butt sex on the field. Em was making all the old man noises oh my god you fucking pervert you are a freak a freaking construction man oh man this nigga's so stupid it's crazy bro dog no It's crazy, bro. Dog. No.

We're moving on now. Holy shit. So this is not for you, Mark. This is not for me. And you heard seven songs. I'm getting a butt sex. All right. Mark's not going to leave that shit alone. Ice.

So as soon as I put the album in my iTunes. Are we on shrooms? And it said pop. Some of y'all want to be. No. No. No. the album in my iTunes are we on shrooms and it said pop some of y'all wanna be no no no it said pop instead of R&B

slash soul so this is kinda the same thing I had with the Drake album I said okay I know this is gonna be somewhere different he said that shit like

do you want some orange juice I have some shrooms alright I'm gonna go home today go ahead Ice but um yeah

this is I couldn't make it through the album personally I tried and I cut it off this is not I'm not the

demo for this I'm not this is not an album for me so cool I don't like it but it's not for me to like

she didn't kill one person on there even that I know that's the thing or that's all I listen to or whatever but whatever this shit ain't it one person on there. Even that. I know that's the thing. That's all I listen to or whatever. Whatever. This shit ain't it for me. Not one switch came out.

One switch. No, this ain't it. But I understand a lot of the women that I talk to love it. So salute to them. You talk to a lot of women? Yeah, we was talking about that one. Oh, you heard that Beyonce? Yes, I heard it.

I don't understand that. What? Like, as music people, you're a music person. Ice is a music person. Yeah. I don't understand how y'all, just my opinion, it might not be the genre that you prefer. But you can't necessarily listen to some, like i could listen to some country music shit right it might not be my go-to bag but some of that shit is dope and some of that shit is fly

uh yeah i don't understand how if it's not your go-to brand of music i told you that i like the production and all that shit on there use it as a cop out ma'am it's not even no no it's not even that it's not my go-to brand of music whatever i listen to certain r&b it's just i'm a beyonce fan i listen to her music gotcha this does nothing for me so i can't i can't get jiggy with this that's all it is i'm not saying it's bad like oh this is a terrible album no none of that i just don't like it i will never hear this again until they start playing that shit a thousand times. Yeah, but see. They think it's going to be like, yo, that's a bop.

No, no, no. See, that's the thing though. The people that, the places I go, they're not really going to play this. They listen to different. Y'all play that church, girl. A record or two. I'm talking about this album. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

There's places that are going to play this shit from top to bottom wow and here I thought I was surrounded by Hovengers fine what that mean? what you mean what that mean? surrounded by Hovengers what that got to do with anything?

I could be a Hovenger and still not like this I don't have to blindly like everything that's associated with Hov. Okay. Then you have to go over there and try to get back into... I'm not sure. What are you talking about, nigga?

Yeah. You're so stupid. I've seen that movie before. You ain't got to roll with nothing somebody said you can just get the Joe what'd you think of the album? no we're going to censor that

look at you you want me to get clapped I don't want that you said it stamp stamp Rob alright so all of this is on me.

See why it's important for me to listen to these albums. I swore I was going to say, I'll get to this on the weekend. No. But then I was like, can we do a pod and not talk about the Beyonce shit? We'd be like, yo, we'll get to that later. And it's like, no, it's Beyonce. So I listened to it. And you're a connoisseur of uh house music yeah that's why it's like I expected Ice's take to be kind of like this because this is what he

did on the Drake album and I do not think that these albums are the same or that they were going for the same thing. They're the same. Not to me. Big county. Yeah. It's a mighty big county then. Because actually, I thought that she... I like it. All right, let me start with I like it. I like it a lot if it were the length of Drake's.

Because thick on... I don't like the runway stuff. And that's why I think that the ice shit is, because I'm with y'all. You said runway stuff? The runway songs. Because that's what they are. Like a fashion show?

Yeah. The extra, extra, extra fast call and response, Big Freedia type. The runway shit. and that's thick uh that's break my soul but break my soul is a lot better in this album like it's not as a as i didn't feel the same as i did with it being a standalone it flowed well this album flowed well uh i thought the production was amazing.

The transitions were also very good. That's weird to Isha's point. Even if this is not your bag, I think you could listen to the big dogs or should be able to listen to them and hear why they're elite. No question. Beyonce's production game is elite. No question. Beyonce's production game is elite. Beyonce's voice, even if I'm not the biggest fan of this style,

which I am because I love this shit. She was showing out, though. She showed out. She's an instrument to the highest. It's her and Brandy for me. They hear and do things algorithmically that just not many other artists could do. Like, they just become the track and start changing it and she did that here so i listened to this shit and was blown away by dream i wanted to see exactly what dream had to do with all of it because he just needs more appreciation

from the culture yeah he was on uh he just did an appreciation, I feel like, from the culture. Yeah, he was on, he just did an interview with somebody. Of course, no, I did the church girl. Tough, tough. Oh, shit, Sid on Plastic Off the Sofa. I love Sid. That's great. Levin Cali.

So she got, oh, yeah, Virgo's group. Not just because I'm a Virgo. But mostly because're a virgo nah that's crazy that's crazy those are my two favorite songs uh virgo's groove and uh church girl i ain't here yet and the rest of this shit is just good i'll play it again because i'm gonna travel and i'm gonna go somewhere where you just need a quick little playlist that's this vibe same like I do with the Drake album

same way I do with the Cajun Out album like if you in the mood for it you'll be in the mood for it and I guess that's why they put so much of it on there

and again this is the same shit I said with the Drake album yo when you go away yeah you don't be hearing that hard shit true it don the Drake album Yo when you go away Yeah You don't be hearing that hard shit True It don't come on

Like I just was away And 12 o'clock 1 o'clock Everybody outside Chilling Drinking wine This is the shit that you really be hearing At 1 o'clock in the morning

When you over there You know what I'm saying And some shit come on You really don't hear You not really hearing our R&B You'll hear it But it be a more dancey B boppy, set in the mood type of feel. Like Smoke and Hookah, you're not necessarily trying to hear fucking...

Bars. Yeah. You just want to hear soul, and I don't want to say soul, like R&B soul. I mean just rhythmical music that That just You don't even hear What they saying Yeah you don't hear What they saying Really you just

Listening to the You know what I'm saying So this shit Applies You Wine bar somewhere And fucking Some shit you can't pronounce

You just chilling It's gonna get you yo Damn One more million One more million You already at 1M Who You already at 1M Who no no more million? You already at one M. Who?

You already at one M. Who? No, no, no, no, no. I'm not at no M. One more million, boy. I like Cuff It a lot, too. This was the record I liked. This is Cuff It.

I like it a lot. This was dope, too. Like, y'all don't listen to music like with your girl or just with My girl like ESTG My girl be like man put that King Von on Word One more million yo One more I'm telling you Well I could just be me

I'ma get you to leave her I'ma get you to leave her. I'm going to get you to leave her. Yeah. Oh, that's what I was trying to say, too. Unlike the Drake album, I think we all benefited from the change of pace in this album, where every beat was not the same exact BPM as the beat before it. I think a lot of that was her vocal performance, too, though. She did a lot more diversity in the way that she sang she rapped more she she hit different octaves she did more vocally than drake did drake kind of kept a very uh monotone yeah yeah flat kind of

vocal style i that's another amazing independent point but i don But I'm saying just the speed of the metronome. On Drake's shit, exactly the same all the way through. This, yeah, the pace changed. Now, maybe that's because of her acrobatics. Yeah, that's true. She's one of the greatest. She's like a robot. Yeah.

She's a robot it would have to be a i can't imagine how much of a delight it would be to work work with her somebody where there's no wall anywhere to anything you need to do in the booth as a female vocalist rap sing change the pitch uh this cadence say it with this accent fucking do like she's like a ghost like and she did that over these beats

that's impressive it is I don't know that's impressive yo I'm not talking about how you feel about the music maybe I'm talking about some geeky shit now

her performance separate from this album is she did that shit I don't know none of that music-y shit y'all be talking about Her performance, separate from this album, is... She did that shit. I don't know none of that music-y shit y'all be talking about. But I can definitely hear the production here is different than these other motherfuckers.

This some money. Oh, yeah. I think this must be what money does. Yeah. It's different money. You could damn near hear every snap. It's clear. There ain't no... This ain't Dolby Digital. Yeah, yeah's different. You could damn near hear every snap. It's clear. Ain't no drink.

This ain't Dolby Digital. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This ain't that Dolby. Nah, that's some other shit. Yeah. Again, when I church the girl shit, because that's the last song I heard before I came in. Yeah. It started off on that slow shit.

And then when that beat dropped, I was like, yikes. It sounded like the niggas was in the back seat playing the drums. Like, that shit was crazy yeah no it's an expensive it's an expensive album and she's a brilliant performer so she can

get all the people that she wants that she needs and she's credited as a producer on the whole album too so props to her

no question any final thoughts on this shout out to Beyonce congratulations yeah congratulations oh no we can't leave this? Shout out to Beyonce. Congratulations. Congratulations. Oh, no, we can't leave this because we got to talk about Khalees.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Do we really? Yeah, I think we do. Before that, before we leave this album, so first, before the album dropped, we saw the sample credits go out. We saw the production credits go out songwriting credits songwriting credits excuse me yeah um and drake was listed now i know that means in order to get whatever she sampled from him clear probably had to hear that or something probably so

do y'all think he heard that and said oh shit this was she coming with and then that pushed him to push this album, to make this album that he made. I don't know if it would just be that sample. I'm sure that he probably has some insight to what's going on beyond a sample clearance. I don't think that this was a deliberate effort from him to say, yo, I want this type of sound because she's doing that type of sound. I just think that his life has him creating that type of music because that's what he's around. You know what I'm saying?

I don't think that they bit off each other, but I certainly could see him having a dance album ready and then getting wind that she's coming with a dance album and him saying, you know what, let's get this out. She kind of secretive, though, yo. She kind of secretive about her shit. But, I mean, he is Drake, so he might be... This sounded rushed.

This sounds like it should have took a few years. Yeah. The nigga just was in Saint Tropez teasing Joe. The songs that they playing in them fucking brunches over there is in line with the shit that he made. No question. And Pump It Up. And pump it up.

That's who, oh, he gonna get you one in deluxe and sample pump it up and make it a house record. Great. He gonna pay you? Yeah.

There you go. Pump, pump. Pump all you want. Pump away, pause. So, let me ask you guys

a question. Shoot. No. Khalees went a little extra than me. Because she don't necessarily own the music, did Beyonce have to check with her prior to? No. Right? I'm asking you.

Oh, he said no. Yeah. No. Oh, that's... And she's credited. She got credit? On the sample artist, Energy says Beyonce,

Tina Marie, Yeah, but I don't think she's credited as a songwriter on the song, which is what matters. So in my reading, they said she ain't

write the song. She is not credited as a writer on her... That's what her beef was. Her beef is not... Well, she had a couple different beefs. She is not credited as a writer on her... That's what her beef was. Her beef is not... Well, she had a couple different beefs. She had a beef saying that

Beyonce was deliberately doing this shit. Her other beef was that Chad and Pharrell took all the writing credits on her albums that she did with them. So therefore,

when someone samples it, she's not getting credit, although she claims she wrote the lyrics. But that's not like your beef need to be with with them i've read 50 things that she wrote because she wrote 50 things and one of the things that i read she didn't write the song on one of the things i read it said that she did not write the song she may have not been credited as a songwriter she was claiming in this video so beyonce wasn't in the stool when y'all was pinning it down i'm gonna

give credit to the motherfucker that's credited with writing the song. I think that her anger towards Beyonce is misguided. I completely agree with that. She sampled the song. She doesn't know who wrote the song. They cleared it. She's not. That's it. I went through all the proper channels to get all the clearances that I needed. So take it up with whomever

you beefing with. I don't think that this was directed. And if it was, y'all know I'll be the first motherfucker to say it. It seems... What y'all call it? Cloud Chasey. I don't know about that. I don't think this is Cloud Chasey because this is still her project. Or something of hers involved.

She just might not own it or own rights the way she feels she should've. But like I said, it seems like her beef is with the like you need to direct your beef with them with pharrell and chad yes which she did but i don't see why she's involving beyonce in this that seems misguided to me but i don't know what their relationship is either i don't know if they've had maybe they've had she said that yo we know each other we have mutual friends maybe at some point they've had conversations about yo they

took all my publishing and da da da da so-da-da. So in that case, if you consider someone a friend and they know your shit, maybe they should reach out to you and say, hey, we're going to sample this. We're not friends. I don't know. She claims that they know each other. If we were friends, you wouldn't have did this. If we were friends, you wouldn't have went. This is not one thing. She did like

eight things. You wouldn't have did this. If I'm going to somehow try to play the other side of this if i'm calise or if i'm anybody and i wrote mad hits in my heyday and my pub was stolen from me because of a contract blah blah blah blah and then 20 years later 25 years later the biggest artist arguably on the planet samples my samples that and i'm now instantly reminded of what happened and all that i'm losing out on and i'm looking at my name in the credits i'm spazzing on everybody right wrong or indifferent everybody involved is getting bullets for me you could do that okay but

what you said was right wrong or indifferent so just because you spaz that don't make it right oh i'm not oh yeah i'm not here to speak to that i'm not the judge or jury here that's all right i can understand someone having a day of it especially i've heard a few times that Khalees can have a day oh yeah I've heard that too so if that was the day I'm not saying it's right

but I understand the emotion behind it because you're right she went on it wasn't just Beyonce yeah she just went

for like a long time and Khalees this is one of those stories listen the industry has so many stories and she was throwing shots this is one of those stories that and other has so many stories and she was throwing shots this is one of those stories

that and other people too we'll never we'll never know about cause we never really knew about and we never really knew about it

like what when Khalees came out it was the Neptunes shit popped off shit was but you're right all that shit she said about uh

being the blueprint and just legendary and iconic and my work being. All those things are true. Mm-hmm. But I don't really remember what went on back then. That was before my time. I was still working at The Wiz. You were not.

Yes, I was when Khalees first came out. Yeah, Milkshake was 99, maybe? Like 2000? Milkshake. I'm talking about when I Hate You So Much right now. Oh, yeah, maybe. When did that song come out? 90 what?

Probably 99, maybe. But Milkshake and all that. Well, Milkshake is later. That's a later hit. 99. What? I Hate You So Much. Yeah, 99.

I'm 19 years old. I'm at the Wiz. Damn. I dropped at 03. That was before my time. Yeah, Milkshake was 03. I hadn't even never stepped foot in a label in 99. I worked in the city when Damn. I dropped out on three. That was before my time. Yeah, Milkshake was 03. I hadn't even, never stepped foot in a label

in 99. I worked in the city when Milkshake came out. I was corporate. But, I just think that, because she said other shit like, yo, she's stolen my shit before.

You know what I'm saying? Like, we ain't friends. When you start saying certain shit like that, we not friends. Our relationship is not such that I would be calling you to poly i'm gonna go to the label see whatever i have to do to clear my shit so that i could create my album our relationship is not that but be clear beyonce

cleared this with whoever she needed that's my point yeah no question yeah that's my album is too big she's too huge she's too big yeah all Yeah. All of it, yeah. What Hope said. Oh, yeah. Sampled your voice. You was using it wrong. I made it a hot line. I made it a hot song. I'm not going to say that. I'm just going to say that.

You ain't get a coin, nigga. You was getting fucked. I went through the proper channels. I paid whomever I had to pay. That's what I mean. I paid who I had to pay. Yeah. I know who I paid.

You wasn't one of them. That means you'll be paying with me that's all I'm saying I disagree with her saying that it should have been a courtesy call to Beyonce

that's my point that's what I'm saying you're not really thinking about that and you might not even know fam I'm busy as fuck I'm doing my project

I'm not a whole team over here who handles that you might not have known all the samples that were in this shit you know what I'm saying like it's only a little part

they sampled like she might not have been thinking anything about that I just like this record yo producer the samples that were in this shit. It's only a little part they sampled. She might not have been thinking anything about that. I just like this record. Yo, producer, clear that with the people that need to clear that. I'm busy. We got deadlines. We got shit to do. I got kids. I'm a mega multi-mogul. I don't have

time to call you. I paid. So if you didn't get paid for my money, I don't have nothing to do with that. That's your business. I paid. I'm on to call you. I paid. So if you didn't get paid for my money, I don't have nothing to do with that. That's your business. I paid. I'm on to my next song. It is unfortunate that she doesn't have

any songwriting credits on songs that she wrote, if that is in fact the case. And let this be a lesson to other artists. Watch. You see what happens when you're not on top of it.

Not saying she wasn't on top of her business, but for newer artists, you have to look at things like this to make happens when you're not on top of it. Not saying she wasn't on top of her business, but for newer artists, you have to look at things like this to make sure that you're protecting yourself down. She wasn't. But I'm just saying,

for newer artists, these are the stories, you know, we go back and watch Cadillac Records and all these movies and see people getting screwed. This is happening in real time. So now,

for newer artists, you pay attention to this type of thing so you don't make this mistake. That's true. Newer artists. Yeah. Let me not hate. There's new artists coming into the game every day

signing away their stuff. This is the other end of it. So you watch this happen and you should kind of be mindful of that know what you're signing away you trying to trigger me you trying to trigger me because of that GZ ESTG I'm really not a good way to try to deflect

I wasn't trying to trigger you at all it is easy these artists are signing these fucking deals today most of them because they just want to sign the deal correct information is out now that's what I'm saying. Now you're seeing this happen.

No, but Joe. Niggas back in, you had to learn what the word publishing meant. Yeah. So do you not understand what I'm saying then? You do not understand

what I'm saying. I understand exactly what you're saying. I understand. I'm responding to what you're saying. Yeah. It's very, it's a confusing business.

So it's very easy to just try to get on basically by any means necessary. Correct. And I'm in support of that. I'm in support of what you're saying. But it sounds better than actual practice. No, but today ignorance is not an excuse. That's all I was trying to say. Today, we see this. True.

Like you said, you didn't know what publishing was back then. You didn't know what you were signing. And we've seen right in front of our face too many examples of this, of what happens 20 years later. So now, if you're signing a deal today, you might have more questions than you would have had 20 years ago. That's all. You might still sign that bad deal. But it's so much shit happening right in front of you that's on the big screen right in your phone that you should have some more information to go into that deal. Artists have this thing with them that says, no, that happened to you.

That too. It won't happen to me. This person fucks with me. He's not going to do me like that. People have that. Yeah. Yeah, people have that. Oh, yo, he cheated. That's true. He beat her up. He cheated on going to do me like that. People have that. Yeah. Yeah, people have that. Oh, yo, he cheated.

That's true. He beat her up. He cheated on all of them. She cheated on all of them. Oh, yeah, that was them. Or, yo, they gave me a million dollars. I don't really care what they do with my publishing. People have that mentality, too.

Yeah, you're right. Well, that's when they get you when you don't know how valuable it is in the first place. Because why would I not take that million dollars? I have no idea that there's... 20 million in the song. Or potential. See, I think... 20 million in the song, what's in the album?

Potential. If the album sells. If. That's the big part. And it ain't a if because they know what it's going to sell before it comes out. That's true. Insider trading. But the artists don't.

You get what I'm saying? Like the artists don't. And they'll pitch it to you like, yo, we don't know what you're going to do. We're invested in you. If we knew the right questions to ask, we would, at the time, I'm saying, then we would be able to connect those dots. Oh, y'all are banking pretty heavy on me. I'm going to bank heavy on me. But then they're going to say, yo, we're spending a whole bunch of money on you.

Mm-hmm. We're putting a bunch of thinking in your head. Well, you also get into the, they got another person signed over here, too. I want to get my shit out before they start putting their shit out. It's competitive. I just think it's competitive. But that's not a lie. You're right about that.

It takes people a long time to learn what the response is to that we're spending a lot of money on you or what your response should be to that because everybody

is different what should it be? I said everybody is different no I'm saying what would be an ideal one for you I don't know

what would be an ideal one for you like we putting a bunch of money behind you Joe we faithful we hopeful that you know your would be an ideal one for you. We're putting a bunch of money behind you, Joe. We're faithful. We're hopeful that your project... Well, here's one.

Here's one that I've ping-ponged back across the table. No, you're spending money on you. You're spending money just in operation. You ain't spending no money on me it's a goal it is a goal that was a goal now you spend i would benefit to be in the operation but you're not building an operation around me a million times they say uh all right we'll give you uh seven figures in marketing all right that sounds like you're gonna go you seven figures in marketing. All right, that sounds like you're going to go spend seven figures in marketing. So that you can recoup that bread or so that you can benefit yourself.

It don't sound like you already have this marketing engine running that is worth seven figures and I'll put you on there. Right. There are different understandings. That's true. It's all in language I'm not good I got my ass kicked out there cause I would have never

thought of that so and again I think I might be a little more business oriented than a 20 year old about to sign a deal my brain wouldn't go to that oh you putting the money into my marketing as opposed to nigga you already got a whole marketing squadron. You just add me on a roster,

and they going to do what they typically already do. That would have never, ever, ever crossed my mind. Yeah, see? You him. That's what the complex dude said. Staff 700 people. I said, who the fuck is we? I said, I'll be the first nigga there. I that staff 700 people. I said, who the fuck is we? I said,

I'll be the first nigga there. I can count them people that work on my show. So now, when you get the other 687, there's 13 niggas that wake up

and come over there. They will try you, boy. Oh, man. Thoughts, prayers to everybody Who needs them Hugs and love True indeed People who may be down and out

True indeed Yep Yeah I wish everybody great I wish everybody great I want everybody to win Oh Fuck y'all I listened to this Beyonce project Oh, fuck y'all.

I listened to this Beyonce project so much that I didn't get a chance to finish listening to my Kay Roosevelt project that dropped. But he don't lose for me. I had to keep my mind You had me love blind How does it feel? Not for real Still got me love blind And you're too long, girl, I need you soon Got some time, finna spend it with you In the night when it fades to blue

Let me chill. He don't miss for me. And he don't drop it every fucking seven years or some shit So, shout out to K Roosevelt Album in your phone right now I'll listen to it when I get out of here I got some shit to watch and listen to What you missing to watch? Don't say Ozark, yo

No, I started this I do this thing where I watch the different networks, their collection, their series they'll roll out of 10 historic crimes. And this one on HBO is Rich and Shameless that I'm watching. So right before I left the house, episode 10, I think, was about Bison Dele, a.k.a. Brian Williams. That's a crazy story. And I forgot. That's a crazy, crazy story. I know, but I forgot.

But how they unpacking it in this show, I'm rushing to get back to that. I watched the one they did about the Girls Gone Wild dude, Joe Francis, how they rolled it out. It's HBO. Yeah, they're great. It's HBO. Yeah, they're great. It's HBO. What do I need to tell y'all? He was bugging the Joe Francis from Girls Gone Wild. TNT.

And that money, hey, actually, that's exactly what we was just talking about. The verbiage and understanding of what different things mean, The verbiage and understanding of what different things mean, he was loading these contracts up and making the girls get drunk to sign these. They were signing on air waiver. They were signing mad shit while they were drunk. Really? Signing it all away?

Yeah, they were signing everything. He was putting girls that just had a night out in the club having a good time. He was putting them on the cover of a box set that was selling. He sold crazy. They said in year two, he was up to $100 million. He was 12 and I remember this. In year three, it was something like $300 million. And they were spending like 92 million

on marketing. I remember he had private his return. Yeah, he was getting to it. That shit was like check that out.

If you haven't seen it, the Joe Francis story about girls going wild. I want to watch. I want to watch a Bison Daily one. Yeah, I remember that story.

I'm rushing to get back to that. Yeah, I remember that. I'm a Bison Daily one. I remember that story. I'm rushing to get back to that. I remember that. I'm a doc head. Same. You don't say. Love the docs. All of the docs.

Every now and then a good doc, but I can't. I'm not just watching docs, docs, docs. I watch all the docs. I don't want to see these crazy ass people. Shit starts inspiring me to start creating a fake hedge fund or some shit. Bro, that's how I felt watching the boys. Like,

I think I might really be a super villain on the low. You wanted to fly? Nah, not fly. I just wanted to fuck shit up. Joe Francis raped a girl,

did 279 days in jail. Then he did some other egregious bullshit. Did two weeks in jail. He got found guilty. Then he did some other egregious bullshit. Did two weeks in jail. He got found guilty. Then he did he just went in and out of jail, man. Like in and out. The final

time, they sentenced him to a year. But he had time served from over there. So he got out. But his wife had already left with his two kids. Hiding, hiding somewhere from him. He had lost all his money. but his wife had already left with his two kids, hiding somewhere from him. He had lost all his money.

He was hemorrhaging. He was hemorrhaging in 2013. 2009 is when they said the decline started with girls going wild. DVD, watch it, because don't get this from my memory. Watch it. Docked out, docked out. All right.

Mic check. Even though we've been here for an hour, being silly, maybe it's secondhand mushrooms. He has mushrooms around here somewhere. Yeah. Microdosing? Mic. You're a grown folk. Yeah.

Macrodose. Mush. Macro dose. Mushrooms in the grinder. Life changing. You could do that? Yeah. You could. I don't know. I heard.

I'm taking y'all word for it. Allegedly. I heard. I heard. After the finger air quotes, man. Allegedly. Yeah, we are back. That's right. And not allegedly, we are back.

We are, yes, not allegedly back. In fact, uh are back. That's right. And not allegedly we are back. We are, yes, not allegedly back. Uh-oh. We're smashing buttons. We good? Yeah. All right. Jimmy Butler has dread. Ice is back.

Jimmy Butler of the Miami Heat, a basketball player, for the people who don't know, who does not have enough hair for his hair to be locked up this way. That's hate. No, it's not. Yes, it is. No, it wouldn't be hate. That's hate.

A little bit of hate. That ain't hate. That's hate, my nigga. I'm explaining to the people that don't know why this is funny. I don't see why it's funny. Jimmy Butler's team also went to the Eastern Conference Finals, so we saw him a month ago. Yeah.

And now his hair is down to his back. While I love when the baddies go do it, didn't quite have the same effect with Jimmy Morant doing it. Hey, yo. He did kind of a rollout for it, too. He showed you the process. Now, I think it looks great. And I trust the process.

I do think it looks good. But the thing about hair, hair tells a story. Y'all, they about to say I'm pandering to hairstylists. Hair tells a story. So when people have locks,'re telling you a story so you can't just put these locks on a month later and it's just like for fashion it's like what the white people do with locks like a lot of people do that with that is telling a story what's who a lot of motherfuckers doing the exact same shit but it's but that's what i'm saying it's not the exact

same shit that's all i'm saying just the difference one what he did is not locks so when niggas be doing the lock shit you right what is he what did you do those is braids no no those are full locks that shit when he coming off the plane those are braids no you get your locks braided together see you're wrong but okay that's right there not that the shit where you can see the lines in the head those are box braids they just long when your hair lock up you don't see the individual braids they twist your hair together and it becomes one and that's dreadlocks because he doesn't have locks i just said that that's what i said his hair is not that's braids the shit it's he doesn't have locks. I just said that. That's what I said. He said it's not. That's braids.

The shit. It's braids with extensions. Y'all doing that shit again. Okay, we're going to. Yeah, all right. People are listening to us. I've seen this happen. Argue both sides

if that's what's happening. I'm just telling you I've seen this happen. So I'm telling you how it starts off one way and then they add the lock extension to it. These are faux locks though.

Oh, if I had that Willow Smith song in my serato yeah i'm just mad he didn't put the order link up there that's that's what i was looking for i went searching people want him to go take this back to wherever he got it from no i want him to show you where he got it from to put you on yeah i need to be put on. Because you want locks. Yes. I can't picture it. Ice, why do you... Ice. You don't always have to be such a coon. Yo, I can't... Fam, I've had them before

and I want them again. You've had what before? I've had locks before. And what happened? You got locked out? What the fuck you talking about? Ice, you don't have nothing for the lock to grab. I'm a bot act. If I got money, I could get it. Yo, they going to glue some hair to this nigga's scalp.

Now that people know that's what you want to do, you're not going to get money, yo. If that's bad, y'all really don't need to know what I want to do. Oh, no girls. No, no, no.

Fam, if they know you're going to glue some hair to your head, lock it. You got it, okay? Yeah. You get the little implants that put your butt hair

on your head? Whoa. Excuse me? yeah you get the little implants they put your butt hair on your head whoa excuse me the transplant shit that's what they do they take hair from other parts of your body and put it in your head

why do you know that maybe this is all butt hair yo you have a kinky friend yeah you do you do yo yeah it's just another side

to you, though. I mean, I know that because Michael Paul explained it to me. See, there you go. But you are kinky. Oh, man. All I want out of this is a Milli Vanilli reactionary television show where they just watch the current news cycle and react. They got killed for a lot of shit.

They said, yo, he focused on the wrong max extension. That's funny. Oh, man. Jimmy Butler's, babe. That shit look dope. It is. It don't look that bad to me. Wait until I find the order link.

So if you come in here with any hair. Say whatever you want. I don't care. If you go anywhere here with any hair Say whatever you want. I don't care. If you go anywhere with these fake dreads They're going to jump the shit out your ass. Because you not 6'7 with a jump shot. And a corner three. Yeah.

And two maxes. You ain't got up 0.1% of the max. Of his max. That's fine. Let me find the order of his max. That's fine. Let me find the order. This does look a little crazy. Yo, definitely put this picture on the screen.

This does look a little... And then Photoshop me with the dreads. There you go. So we can get an idea of what we're working with. Or not. Or not. I don't need to see that. That's cool.

Do y'all want to talk about what else is important or unimportant? Well, speaking of dreads, we can go right into Brittany Griner. Hey. Okay. Let's see what you did there.

The Griner trade. They're getting the Merchant of Death or whatever his name was, right? Two people. Oh, we get two. No, we get two. It's a two for one.

Look at this, yo. Hey, dogs. This is... Yo, all trade's been fucked up since Minnesota did that bullshit. I just want to say that. yo hey dogs this is yo all trades been fucked up since Minnesota did that bullshit I just wanna say that

all trades Rudy Gobert really fucked shit up it fucked everything up Danny H yo that is hilarious fam man look what we

giving up don't say that it's a black queen we getting back I'm not no no no no I said look what we giving up no hold up time out fuck what you talking Ice. It's a black queen. We getting back. I'm not. No, no, no, no, no. I said, look what we giving up.

No, hold up. Time out. Fuck what you talking about. Yes, that's a black queen. But I'm with Ice. I thought about this, too. I have to give back one of the biggest murderers in the world because of your vape? It's a little crazy.

He smoked it. That's nuts. Put this in the trade machine on the ESPN and watch what happens I see what it veto who's the other one we get back

Biden and them had already said no the Russian they said what we want yo give us homeboy this was a few months ago I remember and we was quiet

nah that nigga's dangerous I don't know who Paul Wellen is but he might be Donovan Mitchell no Brittany is Donovan Mitchell. No, Britney is Donovan Mitchell. We don't know who that is.

Security. Whoever he is. Yeah, see? Paul Nicholas Wellen is a Canadian with U.S., British, and Irish citizenship. Oh, this nigga's on the blacklist. Exactly. He was arrested in Russia on December 28th, 2018 and accused of spying. Oh exactly he was arrested in russia on december 28th 2018 and accused of spying oh he was spying see on june 15th 2020 he received a 16-year prison sentence with the possibility of time in a labor camp he's described as a corporate security director

yeah oh yeah you gotta give us him too exactly that's donovan's Donovan Mitchell. We need some more. We need more. You don't know what this nigga Wellen is. You know what time it is. Yeah, exactly. You know what time it is with him. Wellen is one of them. I just read enough. That's all you had to read.

What Biden want to say is get Britney out of this deal. Basically, it looks good. It's good optics. Give us Paul. Paul is one of them. The nigga got citizenship in three countries. It's good optics. Give us Paul. Paul is one of them. The nigga got citizenship in three countries. Biden's so mad. This nigga Paul been sitting for 16 years.

And you want to bring a vape? Now they got to throw in the other, the teacher that got caught with the weed over there too. Just a little something extra. Yeah. We're giving you the merchant of death, yo. Yes. I want the teacher too.

I want the teacher too, man. You got to come back. I do. I want the teacher too. A-R-K. Man. We're giving you the merchant of death, yo. Yes. I want the teacher too. Hold on, it's teacher too, man. You got to come back. I do. I want the teacher too. A-R-K. Man. Paul might be one of them. Give me my uncles and cousins.

From Rikers? Yeah. I don't know Paul. None of these motherfuckers. I know Shawnee from 14th Street. You like that? Yeah.

Yeah. Nah. What? We need Danny Ainge on the phone to negotiate this trade. And I do want Britney to come home. So I hope that y'all don't chop and misconstrue what I'm saying.

Fuck them, man. They can't do shit with me. Okay. The merchant of murder? Merchant of death. I would have a long talk with my constituents if I had to give back the merchant of murder. Because he

sounded like he was a thorn in someone's ass. Not just murder, the merchant of death. That's a little worse. Yeah, it's a little worse. I mean, nah, man. Y'all can keep Paul and Brittany. At least a little longer

than a month or two. Merging the deaf dude. Paul been over there for a minute. No he wasn't. Who? How long Paul been over there? Since 18?

That's a minute. And was going to sit for 16 years. He was arrested December 18th. Okay, no, I saw the June 15th. She just got arrested. That's a minute. And was going to sit for 16 years. What do you mean? He was arrested December 18th. Okay, no, I saw the June 15th. She just got arrested. They keep putting out these, it's been 500 days. Man, Paul is like, yo, this bitch.

Paul is like, you got to be shitting me. Or actually, he's really happy that you did that. Yeah, well, I finally got my ticket. Because now, me, we in negotiations. Yeah, now we in negotiations. Yeah, but we got to get that teacher, too. The merchant of death is, in his cell, designing deaths now. because now me we in negotiations yeah now we in negotiations yeah but we gotta get that teaching the merchant of death

is in his cell designing deaths now oh yeah you know how niggas got plans when they get home yeah yeah his first day out gonna be fire

yo yo dawgs think about that so now you can't be mad at Ice for wanting Pooh Shiesty and Mozzie Pooh Shiesty. And Mozzie. Pooh Shiesty ain't got no jump shot.

He might. He can't dunk. He got a shot. I bet he do. I bet he do. Yo, look at that nigga, man. You see that? Who?

Him. How he got RT jail pictures, yo. Hey, yo, fam. That nigga looks like he will- He look like he gonna kill you as soon as you open his gate. Word. Yeah. Yo, I've been what you you let me see your badge you you you was talking shit no no yeah no you it's gonna take a lot of them it's gonna take a lot of them to get him out of there i'll tell

you that one styles p just did a video not too long ago saying he wants more of the people from the town to apply to be police right and i totally agree with that for different reasons probably these cops so out of shape these cops y'all seen a video yesterday this little crazy nigga was running around midtown just assaulting people and this robocop looking Asian dude just hemmed him up put him down

on the ground and just kept him there until the cops came when the cops came it took like seven of them to get him to restrain the one dude

he realized the struggle they were having and still stayed there until they could subdue the guy. And then he got up and wiped himself off, looked like he was headed to Starbucks.

Oh, the Asian dude wasn't the police. No. This is a pedestrian. It was just Jet Li walking down the street. Yeah, that's just, nah, he was big.

When he got up, I was like, oh, that is the wrong guy, wrong good Samaritan to have around while you're trying to commit a crime. But the cops told me, yo, you all right? No, you all all right?

No, you all all right? I'm straight. I'm going to get a Frappuccino. What are you doing? All right, Merchant, come on. He's about to kill me just looking at this. Yeah, word. Yo, get him off my screen, yo.

I don't like that. Because that looked like he should be in face-off. It looked like we need Nicolas Cage to beat him. And why is Aaron Rodgers coming to training camp like Nicolas Cage? I don't know. I was just going to throw that in there. Wait. What happened?

What are you talking about? He reenacted the face-off scene. He came in with the beater on and the duffel bag and then threw it to the ground. And you know Aaron Rodgers is cryptic, so why did he do that? Face off. That's his way of telling us that he ain't got no receivers. I don't know

these niggas' faces. Let me let him know I'm the sheriff around here. Yo, you just got money. You can just do whatever the fuck you want to do. Look at this guy. Look at this guy. I think he's just having fun with y'all, man.

Oh, man. Nah, that's dope. Yeah, I'm rolling. Anything is dope when you're 70 million a year. Yeah, right? He does look a little bit too much like Nicolas Cage. I don't know if that's something you should go for. That shit look a little scary.

I ain't going to hold you. He playing that. That nigga's in a Halloween contest or something. White people here, Nicolas Cage and Katie Texas. We ain't seen this nigga since. He only did 70,000 movies.

And ain't not none in the last 10 years. That's a good question. Now you got me thinking. He did a few movies. He had a lot of movies. I see him. No, new ones. On the indie joint. Who he pissed a few movies. He had a lot of movies. I see him. No, new ones.

On the indie joints. Who he pissed off? Somebody. He pissed somebody off. Let me stop. Nicolas Cage's sweetheart. All right, Meek Mill. Meek Mill.

Meek Mill. One day we will not have to cover hip hop. I'm almost there with you. I'm ending this podcast. I'm not doing this shit. I don't want to talk hip hop. I'm getting, I'm almost there with you. I'm ending this podcast soon actually. I don't want to talk about hip-hop. I'm getting to the point

where I just don't want to talk about rap. I'm going to try to pivot. What you going to do? That's the first step. Then it's, I don't want to talk about hip-hop.

What you going to do? Same thing I always have done. Find something to do. Got you. Get the fuck out of here. Stupid. You're putting fucking doubt on me

what you gonna do I did you might have already I was gonna drive Mr. Softy around or I could live off my other jobs you know

look they count your pockets I'm not doing anything if that was if he was really counting my pockets he wouldn't ask me that you might have already

had an idea in mind this nigga might be the super villain on the moment might be him he is Meek Mill says for some reason

I can guess some reasons and I will 10 tapes no nigga I'm not listening to 10 tapes I'm not even I can't even get this out

10 tapes independently starting September bye I'm not listening to 10 Tapes. I'm not even, I can't even get this out. 10 Tapes independently starting September. I, I, I, I, I. What? What? New music dropping August 18th. The day my dad died is when I start wiling again. I'm not dropping albums on Friday either.

Gentlemen, what do you guys take from this? I actually like this, personally. He's been saying for a minute that he hasn't been able to drop the way he wants to drop. That's been a thing. He's been complaining about lack of support. It's almost seemed like I'm going the fully independent route. I remember remember I think it was rowdy or somebody was saying yo I can't drop what I want this was last year sometime and Meek said he replied to him and said yo start dropping mixtapes so it seemed like this has kind of been his plan to where now I

could get my music out the way I want to get my music out he said I'm leaving rock nation as management I'm taking uh I'm taking charge of my own shit i'm taking a a risk on myself and a follow-up tweet he said yo all y'all brands that i'm involved with come take this chance with me partner up with me for these to put these tapes out so i like it you know it's not my bag however i'll comment you can skip it and toss it to parks if you want no i just think that um i think it's i think it's good strategic movements i think that um the label is preventing him from kind of putting shit out which is kind of killing his buzz a little bit so if you start throwing out your own mixtapes you create your own buzz especially if

they slaps and you putting out some fly shit you'll create your own buzz so that when your album finally drops you'll still be hot y'all said before that um the label won't support you and it'll kill your buzz thereby killing your value yeah if you putting out your own shit that's fire you you keep your value up for your next deal or maybe not a next deal for you to just stay independent. Or if he can make him, let's, I don't know his contract situation over there with the label.

Let's say he got an album left. One. And they don't want him to put this album out. If I could make myself fish grease hot where they're begging for this album,

it gives me, I'm trying to get some leverage back. Like now I got some, now the album, people want this album. Ten projects, a lot of project though

i hope i mean i hope that he might not necessarily if i'm doing if i'm putting out if i'm doing eps and i'm doing six seven songs and calling it a mixtape if i'm telling you i'm putting out 10 fam we've just seen we've seen this happen before guys can you for one time try to talk from the position of the artist and not the consumer just once? I'm talking from a position of the artist. I've seen artists do this. Put out a slew of tapes over the course of a year. He didn't say how long.

He said 10 tapes. I got 10 projects ready. This might last me the next three years, two years. Ice, I don't even know if we have time to do this, but fuck it. Let's go. There's a such thing as consumer exhaustion. There is. Sure.

Every artist needs to have that at the tip of their brain when you plan on releasing a lot. Would you agree with that or disagree with that? I agree. So I highly doubt that Meek Mill puts 10 of anything out in the span of one year. Or two. It might be two, but it won't be one. He never said one though. Let's be clear. I'm not putting words in his mouth.

I'm just playing a little back and forth game with you. Also, if you're independent and you have 10 projects ready to go, you know what you start doing? Forecasting your money.

You have to be able to know when you're going to get a bump in finances. So he has to factor that in. If he's spreading this out across, the longer it goes, the more he has to factor that in. Dangerous game, too. Wait, real quick. Like I said, he also said, he didn't pull a tweet up for him,

but he also said, hey, all y'all brands that I have deals with, that's the other crock of shit. That's the other crock of shit. Or maybe not. Maybe that's his way of pitching. Yes. That's what I take it as. If that is his way of pitching, boy, that's what i take it as if that is his

way of pitching boy is he about to have some rude awakenings if these things are not organized set up if these talks ain't being had already boy is he about to have a rude awakening because on to point number three when you have 10 projects and you're independent now and you want to go crazy and start wilding again know who could help right now label rock nation the label we've been trying to get away from i'm looking at this from rock nation's point of view my one of my lead horses spec allegedly because we don't know that now but one of my lead horses is about to be independent and has 10 projects something's funny there and i don't it don't it don't make sense i'm not buying that now i'm taking control of my own i'm still good over here i'm still i'm

i personally am not buying that and And I have the other quote. It says, fuck it. I'm going to take the risk. A million behind every project. All sponsors connected to me or my brand tap in immediately. I need y'all for this risk I'm going to take. And then hashtag no major label vibes. Now, from this quote, he could have already done everything I just said he should have.

He could have. But that remains to be seen he's going to have to show that to me because he was upset over how his last project was presented yeah but that felt more like an independent

release so if you was upset at that and now as an indie you talking about putting a million behind each project go learn the indie shit I don't want to hear none of this shit indie acts are not going into shit saying a million behind each project each project wait let me get this off real quick even if i have an investor that's still a mistake i'm trying to why am i trying to go get in the red again i'm trying to squeeze the juice. That is totally not good. But the brands that are behind him.

Who are they? I don't know. But they might not be. But that's important. It might be a sponsorship situation. It could be a bunch of other shit. It could be an endorsement situation, a sponsorship situation. situation it's like if the joe button podcast went on blah blah blah and hennessy or perrier or whoever the fuck gave us some money that's money you don't got to pay back because they're not

necessarily investing it's just a sponsor a sponsorship deal so somebody else might want to throw him a half a mil now i only got to pull a half a mil out my pocket and whatever i generate it ain't the independent acts running around getting all the sponsorship deals. Yeah, but Meek ain't one of them. Yeah. I don't know that. No, I'm saying he got to take a bug. I have never seen.

I don't know that. I have never seen him operate as a standalone. As a standalone. I don't know what he is. That's the same thing y'all told me about Big Sean. Not y'all. No, y'all. But y'all.

When I was saying that, I don that's the same thing y'all told me about big sean not y'all but y'all when i was saying don't feel the same i know that because i went through it and people go through it when the support leaves you look different that could go different from him because he got billionaire friends i was just gonna say that but i think that matters it's a money thing yeah fam your billionaire friends be your billionaire friends until you need some money or until you start asking for shit or you're not in that same position no more or you're not as hot as you was or not only that some things about to get tested is all i'm saying to feed the feet into your art your position joe your billionaire friends might not be your billionaire friends because you're not down with the billionaire that brought you in here

i think that that's true but. I think that's true. But I just think that it's all contingent upon where he financially is and what he want to put out of his own pocket. Now, if Meek is up up... Which he probably is.

He could be up up to where the million dollars don't kill him. My brain never gets to that part because... It could. It's a could, though. So let's just say

he got other mad side ventures and we're a million dollars don't really crack him i don't know what his budget was from the label but if he knows the marketing side of the business and the label was giving him a certain dollar amount he could put his own money out to market it the way that the label was doing when he was one of them he was saying about that last album i went and did this with the art i did this with the like y'all ain't did shit so if this is what i'm gonna get back from y'all not doing nothing i could i've already paid for this i could go do this myself and not have to break bread with y'all at all and i can do it over 10 projects also the word tapes is going to be under review

i see a lot of problems coming i ain't gonna hold you that's gonna be under review unless he is fully free which he may be tape what what's the tape look is that player look at that what's the tape I know he's what is the tape for the mixtapes to come back for me no mixtape come back where it is his business I get it is business but think about it look if I'm saying I'm going to put mixtapes out so now they're not albums and I'm

are you selling it if you are selling it I don't necessarily have to sell it how are you going to give it away I'm going to tell you I can dad piff this and I sponsored with somebody. Now I got a sponsor.

So here's some money behind it. We can promote it, whatever, whatever. And we dad piff it. I'm getting my music out. I'm getting my buzz back. And I'm a tour. And I can tour these records if they hit hard enough. Have fun.

He would have to be a fully independent artist to do that. None of what you're saying is going to work. I don't know who y'all think these labels are. So let me ask you a question. It's an artist that put out tons of mixtapes. Like for the last probably seven, eight, ten years, he has been living off of mixtapes. Those are not mixtapes.

Really? Those are not mixtapes. We can talk about it. Come on. Let's have the conversation. But from what I understood, they were mixtapes. We can talk about it. Come on. Let's have the conversation. But from what I understood, they were mixtapes. And he was touring off of those mixtapes.

He was definitely touring off of those mixtapes. One actually was, and then they doubled back and picked it up. Yeah, like he's been touring off of mixtapes for a long, long time. What even is a mixtape? For promotional use only. I'm not selling it.

That's a mixtape. And that's why I'm saying it. And no artist today is putting out a mixtape? For promotional use only. I'm not selling it. That's a mixtape. And that's why I'm saying it. And no artist today is putting out a mixtape. They don't exist anymore. So this is what Meek tweeted. Meek tweeted, once we find out how to drop that link directly to the consumer and they don't have a hassle downloading it and playing it as they would on a streaming service, the code is crap. This black art. So much money and I'm taking a risk I really know how

I rap so he's saying basically if he could go straight to the DSPs with his own project that's not what he just said he's saying if I can find his way to go direct to consumers and the labels

he wants to go around all of them like I said that's where let's read this slowly one more time, though, because that sentence says a lot. Once we find out how to drop the link directly to the consumer and they don't have a hassle downloading it and playing it

as they would on a streaming service. That's the trick. That's the trick. Because it's easy enough to put a link up that you can download. The streaming services have conditioned people today to where nothing else even exists. Yeah. And that's where the problem comes in.

All right, so you're a techie dude. Is it a way to do what he's saying? 1,000% a way to do what he's saying. But it's a little bit more complicated. It's a little more complicated. There's a couple more steps involved. And the average person don't want to do the steps. Don't want to do that.

They want to go right to Spotify. They want to open Spotify, Tidal, or Apple Music and just type the song and hit play. I'm rooting for this. I'm rooting for it too. I'm rooting for it too, of course. For me, what I would think he would,

I mean, and I've seen people try this and this is where you really find your core fan base at. Make your own app. Like something along them lines. Make your app and put your music directly in your

app so now the people that's looking for it go download the meat meal app or i'm uploading straight to that there are other things like band camp that lets you do the same right but i'm saying it's like like he said i want people to find this if i say yo my mixtape is out on the meat meal app uh-huh i got my app listed In all your major app stores On all your phones So now I go in here Boom I download the app

And that's where you'll find It's Kanye with the stem player I'm rooting for this I'm rooting for this I'm such a fan of this We always talk shit about how People be holding the gate And

This right here Is him trying to circumvent that For sure I do And he putting his money Where his mouth is Absolutely I'm championing this And that's. I do. And he putting his money where his mouth is. Absolutely. And he's not

and that's why I like it. He's not saying yo y'all artists y'all need to do this. He's saying I'll take the risk. I'm going to try it first. It might not work but I'm going to step out

and try that. Try what first? To circumvent the DSPs. He said He would not be the first. He's not the first person to do that. Or try to do it.

Or come up with this very beautiful thing. All right. That's what. But no, but what I'm saying, I just like the fact that he's putting action to work. He's not just out here saying, yo, we need to do this. Yo, let's all come together and do this. Everybody throw ideas out there, but for somebody to take the chance on their music and say, yo, you know what? Fuck it.

I think I'm big enough where it could work. I got enough money. I got investors or people that want to sponsor. Let's get it. I think I'm big enough where it could work. I got enough money. I got investors or people that want to sponsor. Let's get it. Let's see what happens. And I think my skill is enough that somebody going to go around it

to get it. I want to see it. I want to see it. I would love for them to be successful. Yeah. Well, you'd love for anybody to be successful

in how do we circumvent streaming. Bucking the system. Yeah, it's only going to take a couple people to do it for that to, you know, yeah. But. Yeah, it's only going to take a couple people to do it for that to, you know, yeah.

But it is, it's going to be complicated. Absolutely. Complicated because the second you say something like that, you've just created the most powerful enemies

in the world. The second you say, yo, I want to circumvent that. Sure. Oh, now what's up for you? We going to try and step on

all of that shit, every move you make. I wouldn't be surprised if he start catching charges like that type of shit really happens with these like you start talking

about other kind of money they play dirty I wouldn't be surprised if he start catching charges and shit like that so Meek we love you we support you

and I hope this works word whatever way you put it out there Ice will be copying and I hope he got another one and I want my shit off his last oh expensive paint yes

oh my god if you're gonna go be independent and do that you'll find a way to get that to me you put that on and the Uzi joint at 1, 2 a.m. blue notes

oh my lord them two them two records right there whoa alright what is important what is not 1, 2 a.m.? Blue Notes. Oh, my Lord. Them two. Them two records right there. Whoa. All right, what is important, what is not? Well, speaking of... After dominating the short video market, TikTok may be considering a music service.

All right, now let me correct that for y'all. TikTok is and has been a music service. Yeah. They're now just about to crack y'all over the head with it because it's being made public but this is old news they're making a dsp essentially is this the implication they're making okay tiktok music yeah tiktok parent company bite dance filed a trademark application the short form video app is already a popular tool for discovering music and oftentimes. Yeah. Oh, it was the first.

First spotted by business insider. TikTok music. Yeah. The filing indicates that the trademark could be applied to the mobile app that would allow users to purchase, play, share and download music. So it's TikTok and the rest of the big dogs, because you see what they're trying to do, versus Meek and the rest of the people that are trying to do that. It's the exact opposite of each other. One is trying to circumvent and get away from all of this web.

One is trying to make sure you can't and don't. Because that's where Meek Mill's independent albums will not be most likely on TikTok and what they're doing with this is

like TikTok drives your music your listens up or your streams up but it directs outside so like it might go viral

on TikTok and then the benefit is seen over there on Spotify, on Apple. So now what they're trying to do is- We're going to capitalize on our own work. Oh, yeah. We got the licensing right here. That's true.

So now the song that just went viral here, you can stream it. We'll take that 30%. We'll take that. Yeah, that makes sense. A report released by the company last year suggested that 175 songs that trended on the short video platform ended up on the Billboard 100 charts. So yeah, you guys are now benefiting from our shit. We're going to start to get that bread.

You ain't got to go to Spotify. Download that shit right here. Right here. Right here. That makes sense. And I'm not... I get it. If I'm TikTok.

No, that makes sense. Yeah. Sounds like a great time to bring up this hip hop union that Karis One is talking about. No, that makes sense. Yeah. Sounds like a great time to bring up this hip-hop union that KRS-One is talking about. Yeah, sure. Yeah. I think it's called the Hip-Hop Alliance. Is that correct? Yeah.

Yep. KRS-One has recruited fellow hip-hop legends Slick Rick and Big Daddy Kane. That's also how I know I'm getting old. The way I lost my mind at the spot last night during the Slick Rick and Big Daddy Kane set, I went crazy. Where you went? Huh? You ain't called me, fam.

Did you call me when you went on your little comedy date with Ice? Ice called me. Did you call me? No. There's only two tickets.

So that's where the relationship's at. And since we gonna have that, hold on, hold on, hold on. No, no, no, no. Because now I'm gonna get him. Now I'm gonna get him. You ain't hit me back.

You ain't answer, right? Remember I told you you didn't answer? Guess who I called right after that? Guess who didn't answer or hit me back? Who you talking to? You, nigga. I called him. What are you talking about?

When dude said, yo, I'm going to get my ticket away to jail. It wasn't your ticket. Dude said, yo, I got you two joints. I'm leaving them here for you. I'm like, oh, oh shit It's last minute You don't like to go out Let me call Ish Ish ain't answering the phone

What are you talking about? Listen He said he called me first He didn't answer the phone I don't understand what Ice is saying Come on we'll have a real argument It ain't a real argument

You can't tell me What a real argument I'm mad Okay well You should have picked your phone up You wouldn't have been mad First of all I'm mad That you're not that dude enough

To get your ticket plus two I wouldn't have been mad. First of all, I'm mad that you're not that dude enough to get your ticket plus two. I wasn't even getting me plus one. I said me. I'm madder for you. No, no, no. Honestly. I'm cool. I was going regardless.

I don't care about none of you niggas. Damn, tell us how you really feel. He threw the extra in there. He was like, in case you won't bring somebody. Then he going to say, you don't like going out

so I ain't call you to go to the Kev Hart, Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock show no it was just Kev Hart and Chris Rock it wasn't no Chappelle there's no gist there

that is true too you don't like to go out come on let's move on we got a podcast we got a podcast for a new promo video promoting the Hip Hop Alliance

a non-profit organization promoting fair wages fair royalties and strong health and retirement benefits for artists in the hip hop and R&B community. Clap it. Yeah, round of applause. Word up. Clap it. A lot of people have been talking about this, us included, for years and years. Yeah.

Karis One says, shout out to those who work behind the scenes to make hip hop happen. Managers, artists, agents, engineers, and producers, what is what is the retirement plan health care plan and fair commission standards for us what is a fair wage for what we do within hip-hop as an industry those that drive and assist artists those that protect artists those that promote the show and those that sell merchandise among other roles and responsibilities that make hip-hop happen who speaks for us what brings dignity and respect to the work that we do answer the hip-hop alliance with the knowledge the skill and the power of our collective voice there's no reason why we cannot protect ourselves and our future brown love us i love it i love it i love it. I love it. I love it. It's hard.

What's that? It's hard. Former union? Yeah. Incredibly hard. Labels read that and said, we got rid of Slick Rick once, we'll do it again. Yo.

Oh, man. This nigga stupid. You really don't want that playing, Rod, do you? Yo, you stupid, man. They said my nigga stupid. That's a joke, by the way. It is, of course. Y'all can't tell when it's just completely silent.

If they can get it, I've heard talks of this before. Of course. Actually, Irv Gotti was on Drink Champs, and he was talking about they literally sat down and had real serious conversations about it. He said it was himself, Suge, and J Prince that really were trying to make it come to fruition. And so that's what Nori said. That's what Nori said. I don't know if I'm going to be giving y'all my dues. Y'all niggas. But no, they said that Irv basically said that Suge is one of the most brilliant motherfuckers

he ever met in his life. And Suge had a lot of insight into how it could possibly work. It would need the bigger artists to make it really push that's where the problem that's that's and that's gonna be where the hard part is you start getting the drakes you start getting uh the bigger acts that would subscribe to this then it works without them i don't think it works and the labels know that sure if there's three people that can go get the artists yeah add chuck d into that chuck d chuck d's involved i disagree i don't agree with that shit i disagree with that all right yeah i don't agree with that their plan entails more than them

the same way the other side their plan entails more than them you need way the other side they're playing in tails more than them you need more you do they're gonna get more um look look look yeah Chuck Chuck D and Curtis Blow serve as both the president

and vice president yeah oh yeah I don't know what y'all talking about ain't a hip hop artist in the world that's not picking up the phone when Chuck D or Big Daddy can't call

yeah I think you're hopeful I think you're really hopeful and I hope you're right can't go. Yeah. I think you're hopeful. I think you're really hopeful. And I hope you're right. Again, I hope you're right. Look, so I'll tell you, the people that will pick up the phone for Chuck D

that have his mentality will start to snowball, potentially. And it's six degrees of separation. Exactly. Now that is true. Like if Chuck D calls Hove,

Hove's probably going to pick up for Chuck D. If I can't get Drake, I'll call Bun B and he'll get Drake. Right. If I can't get him, I'll call him. I'll call his mother. They're going to get the people that they need. That I'm with you.

J Prince got Drake and Kanye to go out there. Sure. Right. Sure. Yeah, this will get done. I just hope it doesn't become something, you know, if those guys were close to forming a union, I hope it doesn't become something you know if those guys were close to forming a union

I hope it doesn't become like a battle of the unions not to say there couldn't be two unions that's possible I'd love for there to be two unions options

yeah make it three yeah there's some now somewhere for everyone to go if there's one union they can't pay attention to every artist

the more the merrier let's get one off the ground now. That is true. Before we get to this P versus broke niggas, because I think that's hilarious, I want to talk about the clauses in Zion Williams' contract and Kyler Murray. Let's do it.

We should have talked about it a lot sooner, but let's get to it. First of all, I don't even think we saluted Kyler for getting the big deal. You know what I mean? They didn't bring up the clauses initially when he signed. Of course. That came out like a week later. Yeah. And those clauses are for Kyler Murray, the quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals,

has to watch four hours of film. Correct. At least, minimum. With no TV. Yes. Per week. That shit is insultingimum. With no TV. Yes. Per week. That shit is insulting as hell. No, it's not.

No, it is not. It is. No, not to me. Oh, wait. They removed that. There's a reason why they removed it because it was insulting as hell. They removed that clause. I don't think it's insulting.

I don't think it's insulting. I think that a lot of people in today's game, they're just freaks of nature athletically. Quarterback is the hardest position in professional sports, of the major sports. And so I think that to make a great quarterback, your athleticism will get you only but so far. And I think the filming and the study and all of that other shit. I agree with you, but Kyler's a dog and he's a football fucking scholar. Let me finish, please. Oh, please. A dog. I don't know him. What has he accomplished? What has he accomplished Kyler's a dog, and he's a football fucking scholar. Let me finish, please. Oh, please.

A dog. I don't know him. What has he accomplished? What has he accomplished that makes him a dog? We just throwing words around. Man, how do we know he's a scholar? He's just super nice. He's just a good guy.

He's a dog. There's no disrespect to him. I ain't finished. Listen to my point. Have you ever watched his footage playing other positions and shit, too? He played safety. And that's my point. That's athleticism.

That speaks to athleticism. That don't speak to you being in the film room knowing that Ed Reed turns his feet on this. Right. So again, now nigga,

get your fucking ass in the film room, cut the TV off and put your athleticism with the mental part of the game and let's see how great you can be.

But he apparently doesn't have a reputation of not watching film. I didn't say he did. Which is why it's insulting. We don't know. This is what I'm saying. I didn't say he had a reputation of not watching film i didn't say he did which is why it's insulting i mean we don't know this is what i'm saying i didn't say he had a reputation of not doing it i'm saying i want to ensure you do it for my 200 million he clearly has a reputation of not doing it if the team feels hey we should put this here they know something that mean the people that his rep that that uh his rep matters to that's what they walking away with

but listen kyler's response was, this is laughable with all that I've accomplished in my career to even put this on me. And I agree with him there. Not me. Let me just finish. I agree with him there. But where I disagree is,

this clause is not about anything he's accomplished before this. He got drafted by the Oakland Athletics. He is extremely athletic. He's gifted. He's a winner back then. But you ain't done shit here on this level. And these people are not grading off your past.

They're grading off the future. Took a really bad team to a playoff team. Did you see his last playoff game? I did. Not just that. Did you see the receivers he had throwing the ball to? At the end of the year? That's not just him.

Cameron Kirk is who he had in the playoff game. You see how you added that in the end of the year? In the playoff game where you guys are bashing him. When he had all of his players, they were fucking like 6-1 or some crazy shit. So I got to load my team up? My point is this. You said, yo, he took a shitty team to the playoffs. He had good motherfuckers on that team. He had great

people. He didn't do that on his own. He had the best fucking receiver. That's a football team. Of course you need. So don't say he did it. He took the shitty team. His team he got today ain't shitty. He had D-Hop on that team. He's throwing the ball to great motherfuckers.

He had D-Hop and Fitzgerald. And Fitzgerald on that team. You're not throwing the ball to bum niggas. My point is this. I like him. I'm not disrespecting him. So let's be clear. I'm not disrespecting him. When I go invest $230 million into you,

motherfucker, I want you to be great. I don't want you to be good. I want you to be fucking great. I want you to be the next Aaron Rodgers, the next Tom Brady, the next whomever, hopefully, for my $230 million. So I think them putting that clause in his contract is not disrespectful at all.

I'm mad they took it away. Well, it was because they took it up. No, that don't mean it was disrespectful. That means it was controversial, not disrespectful. That don't mean it was disrespectful. I'm mad that they took it away. Well, it was because they took it out. No, that don't mean it was disrespectful. That means it was controversial, not disrespectful. That don't mean it was disrespectful. I'm mad that they took it out. No, because you know what happens now? Because he's black, it could potentially teeter the line of disrespecting the black quarterbacks,

saying that they not mentally capable, all of that shit. You know what I'm saying? I get that. So I would have taken it out, too. I would have definitely taken it out from the organization. What I'm saying is this. Fam, you ain't accomplished shit in the NFL. You didn't.

Accomplished a lot more than a lot of other quarterbacks. So what? Dak Prescott. Not the ones in this pay range. I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan. We're talking about the ones in this pay grade. Nigga, Dak Prescott, for all intents and purposes, did not accomplish shit in the NFL. Yeah, but he forced his money.

He did. The same way he did. True indeed. Yeah, what are you talking about? And the prices only go up, so it's not like. I'm a Cowboy fan. If Dak Prescott got on public TV and said, for everything I've accomplished in this league, this is laughable. What the fuck have you accomplished?

Yeah, they would laugh him out of the gym. I get it. What have you accomplished? What have you done? A lot more than a lot Of other quarterbacks So And they not getting The money you getting either

I don't understand What that means When you say that They not getting The money you getting Nigga Aaron Rodgers Could say For everything I accomplished

In this league Tom Brady can say that It's only a couple Motherfuckers that could say that Ben could have said that The rest of these Motherfuckers can't say shit You ain't accomplished nothing

Yo shut up nigga Eli yo He's not there no more So Ben ain't there no more either Ben ain't there neither Eli don't Don't say all ofuckers can't say shit you ain't lying yo shut up nigga eli yo he's not there no more so then ain't there no more then ain't there neither eli don't don't say all i mean don't say eli you can't spell elite without eli it's a t.e miss so t.e with your feelings on that how do you feel about the zion clause uh it's it's probably a little bit fucked up too but he has had injury problems that relate to his wait according to media and shit

it's different there's a direct reason to do that with Kyler you don't see him playing video games but there's not some he's not a TikTok dude doing all that shit. He's not just out here.

He's a professional football player since he was in high school. Sure. He's a dog. He takes athletics seriously. Juju shot. I like that. I'm with you.

I did that for you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Oh, man. Like I said, if he had a reputation of being a fuckhead, I would do it.

We don't know because if he was, you hear it. They would have covered it up because he's so good the team knows something they know more than we do or it could just be a clause

that they have in their shit and didn't think to take it out or whatever maybe it's a possibility but could be it could be their standard form

I just don't think for 300 million I mean 230 million dollars that that's a bad clause for the quarterback of your organization to have now it might be limited

like fam I gotta watch four weeks. I mean, I got to watch four hours of film. It was daily? Four hours a week. A week, which is a joke. I don't think that's bad. That's a joke.

I don't think that's bad. That's a joke. Every professional player that came out and spoke against us, which there was a lot, was like, a quarterback does that before lunch on Monday. Like, typically. Typically. And that's what I'm saying. I'm mad they took the on Monday. Like, typically. Typically. And that's what I'm saying.

I'm mad they took the clause out. I am. I am. And for the Zion clause, I just think that's a way for them to protect themselves. You got guaranteed money in the NBA. If you not playing, we wasting our bread. So if you run out here and get – I remember when Yao Ming, they said he was too heavy. They said it. Like said he was too heavy. They said it.

Like, he was too heavy. His career was going to be short-lived because he was so, so heavy that he kept getting leg and ankle injuries and shit like that. They predicted it before Yao Ming retired that his career would be short. So, if, God forbid, that happens with Zion, what I'm saying is, as an organization, you got to kind of protect yourself. Zion, what I'm saying is, as an organization, you got to kind of protect yourself. What I'm saying is, as someone who's not in an organization, I want to injure Zion myself every week when he keep putting out videos of him putting the ball between his legs and dunking the ball. Two days ago, look, off the drop step.

I want to go out there and clothesline him. Low bridge. Honestly. Because you know what sound good to me? Brandon Ingram, C Ingram CJ McCollum and John Morant boy does that sound scary spooky hours

I'm with the team I'm with the team protecting themselves when niggas wanna act stupid and be more concerned about how they dress or come in and really bust ass

for the contract season and then go back to your regular degular ways fuck Addy I ain't niggas that don't work hard so I don't think that's him though I don't know them so I'm not putting that on them ass for the contract season and then go back to your regular degular ways. Fuck Addy. I ain't niggas that don't work hard. So I don't think that's him, though.

I don't know them, so I'm not putting that on them. I'm just saying he too young for that to be him. There are some other athletes that have been in the league eight, nine, ten years that really kick up on that contract year, which means, nigga, you know how to play. Fam, they sat Zion out of his rookie summer league. They didn't let him play in a rookie summer league. Which means his weight was already. Which means they had concerns. Right?

Orlando just did the same thing with Pablo. Sat him down. There are concerns. There's too much weight on this. We have too much invested. You got to sit down. Y'all been doing that since summer league rookie season all the way up till now not just that y'all might have had a shot in the playoffs a little bit of zion is there it's true yo this is a billion dollar and that's what we'd be saying imagine being the

person that's paying the people the person that's putting the plan together and trying to pay to get it done and now you're just watching niggas fuck around because you want to eat cheeseburgers i'm tight i'm mad i'm tight yeah and i'm not saying i don't know cheeseburger this nigga's face hey see if you could dunk with a cheeseburger in your mouth with your fat ass like well i would verbally abuse this nigga it's all pocket bring back dick cheney not dick cheney uh don dick cheney the temple temple coach don cheney bring back don cheney. Don Cheney. Dick Cheney. Dick Cheney. The Temple. Temple coach.

Don Cheney. Bring back Don Cheney and fucking... John Cheney. John Cheney. Pardon me. John Cheney. Yeah, we fucking it up. Yeah, John Cheney.

And from Indiana. Bobby Knight. Bobby, yeah. Yo, dog, you talking about billion dollar organization. I wish Latrell's Freewell got into coaching. Several billion dollars. Because they have the best nutritionists.

These are not regular trainers, my nigga. They got access to the best surgeons on the planet. That's a fact. So now it's about your participation

at that point and your level of discipline and commitment. Mm-hmm. They got motherfuckers that can make asparagus taste like chicken. Taste like...

What's that shit y'all was eating? Cauliflower. Chopped cheese. Cheese. Chopped cheese. Yeah, that shit. Yo, don't ever... I'm just saying,

they got motherfuckers that could... You got the best of the best, my nigga. So, and now it's up to your level of commitment and discipline. That's true. I'm all for these athletes getting paid. Me too. But I just see both sides.

I want everybody to get paid. I see both sides. I think it fucks up the market. Because again, we consumers. We ticket holders. So when you're paying fucking $200 and $300 and $400 for a ticket, the more money they make, it affects our ticket prices and our ticket sales. When you take your kids to the game, you want the stars that you paid to see to be playing. Nah, load management.

I'm off tonight. You get what I'm saying? You want the stars to be playing. Nah. I think we lost something when it come to that playing. Nah, a little management. I'm off tonight. You get what I'm saying? You want the Stars to be playing. Nah. I think we lost something when it come to that shit. And then Kyler's home just texting Cliff.

You don't handle this for me? Yeah, get that out of there. I don't like that. Yeah. And then Cliff Kingsbury. That nigga's got some type of... That's gang. Facts.

I ain't mad. I'm not mad. I just think that it just gets worse. It's a snowball, yo. I don't mad I'm not mad I just think that it just gets worse it's a snowball yo I don't know why the New Orleans fans didn't throw

cheeseburgers at Zion when he popped up to the playoff game y'all let him just sit there comfortably talking about who I wish I was out there nigga

don't motherfucking get your ass to Jenny Craig or some shit no we've seen it. You see what you call it? Khaled? No, fucking, you know, you stupid.

Khaled had his little Weight Watchers deal for about three months. He said, fuck that. I'm going to hate that. James Harden? Why don't nobody remember? I want to talk about that. I bet you did. Not Joe.

James Harden, yeah. Because Khaled was big as hell the other day. I was like, hey, why isn't this nigga on the Weight Watchers or some shit? Oh, no, they're killing Khaled for buying lottery tickets? For what? Stupid. Yo, people dumb, yo. People just...

Y'all can't say that. They are dumb. Yes, you can say that. What the fuck you talking about? Somebody says, yo, he already got money, but I'm going to just mind my business. Somebody else said, WP need to let us broke people have this moment. Nigga, it's a billion dollars. The lottery is a billion dollars.

What the fuck is you talking about? I'm going to go out here. I'm going to play that. If I'm Khaled, I might buy 10,000 tickets. I might buy more than that. Nigga, it's a billion dollars. So if I could spend 10 grand to potentially get a bill. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead. I'm broke. I'm going to spend $100. Y'all don't say that when these oil tycoons and shit win the lottery. We don't know them. Yep. That's the hard part. That's the bad part.

Yeah. You don't say nothing when these hedge fund niggas take $2 million and turn it into $200 million in the course of a couple years. We don't say shit. How much money you got to make to get that American Express red card? I didn't even know it existed. I didn't even know it was a red one. Google after me. I will definitely.

You know it's right up my alley, baby. I want one of these. I was out eating the other day and seeing some bum chick with my same American Express. You got that one too? Yo, you stupid. I just think, yo, why would I not? That red look different. You pull that shit out your little wallet.

And that shit heavy? Nah. I feel like you holding a cell phone. Nah, look. That red shit. That red shit. That red heart. Yo, that's funny, dog. Wait.

What's the ranking of these cards? Because maybe I'm wrong. Your broke ass don't know. Never mind. Get out of here. You don't know how to Google it. Yeah, you don't know. Shit.

Alex, you got credit cards? Yeah. With who? got credit cards? Yeah. With who? Discovery. Liberty? No. Oh, Discovery. That's the broke one.

Come on. That's not true. They got a new one. Oh, they got Discovery Rich? Yeah. All right. All right. They're stepping it up.

Get your shit on, Alex. That's stupid. That's the new discoveries. They discovered they needed a new way to get you, niggas. Discovery. I ain't even seen a commercial from them in 20 years. I remember when they used to not take them shit to a lot of places. Still, to this day.

I don't know. I've never had a discovery car. That nigga laugh at you. I'll never see their logo car that nigga laugh at you I don't never see they logo up there with Visa and them nah the good the tier ones

Wells Fargo got a tier one the Chase joint that Chase prefer Chase Sapphire they got a Sapphire that talks

but of course Amex is Amex I want a red yeah me too can you look up the ranking of the American Express cars

please I'm gonna color my shit with some magic markers make my shit red that's what it's gonna keep saying not reading a chip yeah

oh you're a chip bro you're a chip bro yeah yeah yeah you know what else is or is not important? I told Ice I really like what Funkmaster Flex was doing in terms of restoring the feeling. And I said,

what is he doing? Trying to push spitters to spit. He's been doing that. Ice is a hater. He's calling them out, though. He's calling them out, I think. He's been doing that. Ice is a hater. He's calling him out, though. He's calling him out, I think. He's cross-collateralizing. That's what he's doing.

He's finding a way to make digital shit relevant on terrestrial radio. And vice versa. Them playing Math Hoffa on Hot 97 is a big deal to Math Hoffa absolutely that's only a big deal to Flex because Math Hoffa

is hot digitally true so how do I get this to cross okay I like that I think it's dope

what else did he do that shit he did with Conway with Conway I like that Conway hottest fish grease where? The internet.

Internet. And Flex has for a long time been one of the guys to say, digital, radio, got to make them cross. That's why he's been radio guy for that long. I like what he's doing. And to the Jewel's point, and Flex's career, let me talk and then you can talk. I like what he's doing and to the Jewels point well I just in Flex's career

let me talk and then you can talk in Flex's career there's never been a time where a new Jewels record didn't work for him Jewels is out moving around

hot kinda where online so if this is the push that he need or Funk Flex calls out. No, he called him and said you got something for me and Jewel said you fucking right. Alright, great. Now let me go make this movie. Let me go dress this

up. I really like the challenges that he's doing. I do. And I hope they continue. I just didn't get where this is restoring the feeling. This is marketing, which I'm not mad at that part. But marketing can restore the feeling. This...

I'm not mad at the marketing aspect of it. Because look at what... This is not a call out. They spoke. Yeah. Like you said. So that's all I'm saying. You're dressing this up

to make it look like I'm just calling him out. Oh, shit. He called me out. Let me go have something ready. That's not what happened. So let me give you an example. That's all. This didn shit he called me out let me go have something ready that's not what happened so let me give you an example that's all

this didn't really happen but let me just give you an example let's just say hypothetically we already had and we didn't for everybody let's say we already had Lloyd Banks pre-planned

to come to the pod right Jim and Mane come on Jim says yo I'll smoke Lloyd Banks' boots Ice doubles down on it as a part of the quote unquote

program okay that would have been dope then you go to the show banks tells ice on the show yo cut your live one nigga yo this ice from joe button podcast nigga shit it on me we're gonna run with the story that's dope i'm not disagreeing with you oh but you said i'm just saying well he said this is restoring a feeling i don't get i said i'm not mad at the marketing at well no no i'm not mad at that i gotta dress it up that's all you know i'm just saying i'm not i'm he said i was a hater on it i'm not hating that but at all it could potentially now snowball into who next jada who next this person who next that person and now we getting that new york hip-hop feeling back it could potentially turn into that it's a bunch of new york spitters so it could potentially just roll down the hill like that it's been three now this is jewel else is the third it

was uh who first it was conway and then matt hoffer now this so it could you know pick up some steam i think that's dope anything that highlights highlights good rapping, I'm here for. True. Yeah. I'm not mad at it. Okay, let me be clear. I wasn't hating on that. I just was saying I didn't get to restore the feeling part.

I'm with this. While there are other things to talk about, go subscribe to the Patreon. We got a list of like 100 things that we have to get to. And'm getting my words worth out of these niggas so we'll do it today now with that said because of a glitch in the matrix we've been unable to do our part of the show segment uh while that glitch still exists we have circumvented it so i want to just do like a rapid fire all right a rapid fire part of the show segment. You're going to get a couple off? Yeah, I'm going to get a couple off.

I'm going to call these people. Okay. But let's get right to it. Pee-lo. I think that says Pee-lo. Oh, Pee-do, Pee-do, Pee-do. Pee-do says, how would you guys react

if your homeboy tells your shorty That she should start an OnlyFans I'm fighting him What are you talking about Next I wouldn't fight him But he'd definitely get a You know

Some pow pow It's disrespectful You even imagining my chick Being naked Yup You already visually imagined my chick being naked yep you already visually imagine my chick busting it open he didn't say what your chick should do on only fans there's plenty of things to do it's inferred i know i don't care if she had a foot page don't be looking at my chick's toes nigga to me this is in line with we're inviting us to the new beach

same shit fuck out of here all right tough crowd here let's keep it moving am i wrong oh who's saying this this is jeff that says am i wrong for choosing my stepmom over my dad in the breakup well no that's yes that sounds like something you gotta figure out the best noends on how long She's been your stepmom No Some of these stepmoms Might have been in his life

Since he was two He might be 25 And your father might have Really been on some Real bullshit You can't fuck your stepmom Right No

You been on Pornhub lately Disgusting All over the first page That's one of the biggest That's one of the biggest Things in porn It might be the biggest Thing in porn But I'm be the biggest thing in porn,

but I'm talking about from a real specific... Who do you think invented that one? No, that was the whites. Because y'all laugh at me when I be like, yo, wait, did we get it? But come on. No, that was the whites. No question.

Yeah, that was Heaven Gates. Next question. Heaven, forget it. I got it. I got forget it I got it I got it I got it I got it let's see

is the fuck boy arch type dead in 2022 archetype archetype yeah need to be well asked for that one

yeah I was recently having a talk with folks of all walks of life, gay, straight, man, woman, asking them what their definition. Oh. There's an incomplete question.

Asking them what their definition of a fuckboy was? Yeah. Fuckboys are celebrated today. They love that shit. I don't know what the archetype of a fuckboy is. I can't really answer. They love that shit today. The shit that you would have been classified as a fuckboy is. I can't really answer that. They love that shit today.

The shit that you would have been classified as a fuckboy is exactly what's celebrated now. It's ridiculous. And this next one's a book, so. Yeah, they stopped sending their questions. Damn. They said y'all niggas don't even care about it. Yeah, they said fuck y'all. Y'all give bad advice. Well, we're back to give bad advice

part of the show we're back we're back unless you an ex of mine don't send no questions nah they like our shit three of them like yo

how I get on that no you can't three of your exes yes have all said they want to send questions in the answer's no what if it's a good question

it's not how do you know it what if it's a good question it's not how do you know it's not it's not it's not how I get my boo boo back no that ain't that ain't how we go

a lot of them part of the show niggas was calling for therapy yes I am not the therapist facts I'm not the one I'm here for jokes I want to make jokes

like make jokes with us anything else important or not important now make jokes with us. Anything else important or not important? Now, mic check, mic check. One, two, one, two. Some of you out there know this song. This was a classic at the time for me. Hey, uh-oh. I've broken plenty of y'all backs out to this one Head between the headboard and the little dresser on the side Hurting yourself, hair all fucked up

You shouldn't have to book four hair appointments in a week But you take pride in how you look, baby And we appreciate that We have the ever so talented Singer Producer I appreciate that. We have the ever so talented singer, producer, instrumentalist. Are you acting now? Like this nigga do shit. No, I did a little acting, but I don't play.

You look like you might have popped up in an Insecure episode. I had a song on there last season, but no, I didn't. All the people I like get a song on Insecure soundtrack. Yeah, I wrote there last season but nah all the people I like get a song on Insecure soundtrack yeah I wrote it was another artist but I wrote it

yeah look look oh buddy nah I mean it was somebody else but I mean that was my pen

that was my pen it was me it was him there we go we need more cocky shit out of these things ladies and gentlemen we have

PJ Morton here with us. Round of applause. Yeah, man. Oh, this one too, man. I might have got my bitch back on this one. Hey. She thought she was leaving for good.

I'll send it to her phone, I think. Get back over here, girl. Yeah. You be telling our stories sometimes. I'm trying. I'm trying. You know. Yeah, but it's a farce. What you mean? Because your wife is here. You don't look stories sometimes. I'm trying. I'm trying. You know. Yeah, but it's a farce.

What you mean? Because your wife is here. You don't look mad happy. Yes. She didn't walk away, Joe. Hey! Oh, talk about it now. Yeah.

That is hilarious. Let me talk. Let me talk. PJ Morton, how are you doing? Man, I'm good. It's actually crazy to be here. I'm like a real, you know, I'm a real fan. So it's weird for me because as a fan, as a listener, I don't really like when guests

are on. But then I couldn't, as an artist, I couldn't pass up being here. You know what I'm saying? I like when y'all just kick it. Like, I've been listening for a long time. So it's good to be here, man. It feels like family. It feels familiar.

You know what I mean? Well, we welcome you. I'm honored to have you here. Yeah, it's good to be here, man. I know that you've been a long-time listener. Yeah, yeah. And you know I'm a huge fan, huge fan of your work. And you couldn't be more right.

They hate when there's guests. Yeah, no. They hate. Me included. It's like- Oh, yeah, they hate you right now. Yeah, I'm sorry, y'all. Hey, when there's guests. Yeah. No. They hate. Me included. It's like. Oh, yeah. They hate you right now. Yeah.

I'm sorry, y'all. And we was about to get in our bed. That's the problem. Oh, man. Pardon the interruption. No, please, please, please. I had to come here because you have. Like, it started with Say So.

That's what I remember. But you really are instrumental in making a lot of people pay attention I don't I don't think you get said enough really like yeah but for people paying attention who may not have been paying attention you got those people to pay attention to my music and I'm just super appreciative and I I'm even you know you've said things that maybe weren't the greatest about certain things and I still rock with you because I'm not real sensitive. I said bad things. You know, it goes so quick.

It's two shows a week, Joe. So you know, things happen quickly. That's true. So I just, you know, I take it. I got a short, you know what I mean, a short memory with it. But it's mostly love. And it's mostly always been love. So I think a lot of artists got you to think for, I mean,

just the sleeper thing in general I think is brilliant, you know, for a lot of artists out here. So I appreciate it. Well, you bring up a good point, right? Because we never know, like, how are you able to tell that or feel that on your end, like an influx from fans that maybe were not here the day before, right? Because most times you find an artist or a sleeper you put people on they go blow up and you never hear from them again so yeah you don't get to hear they rarely show them yeah they really come back they really come back like a little dm every now and again yo good look good look right right but i think say so fuck uh this pod for a minute i think say so period did that

for a lot of people who just might not have known yeah well you know what's crazy about me as an artist in general is that the people who know know and the people who don't just don't like i'm cool i could you know it's not like i walk down the street and paparazzi's there but you know i've got the apollo sold out you know what i'm saying so it's like it's like people who know know and people who don't don't. So I think my base is always going to support and make it a success. And Say So did well. Of course, we won Best R&B Song for Say So. You fucking right.

So it was doing that. But your audience, they were people that maybe weren't in my inner thing. So I noticed it online first. And then just with the success of any song, I think it comes from, it's got to be different places that allows that to happen. True. Yeah.

That's the argument I was just having with Justin, Justice Division's people, good old LVRN over there, because I was shitting on the song where publicly and they called me about it oh sure yeah

but he was getting his bag he was passionate and he was just arguing for um the marketing aspect we gave him his flowers on that yeah

we said it was a genius market no but even bigger than just that song his thing was and there are people like this, so I get it. His thing was, well, if the tree fall in the forest and don't nobody hear it, then who the fuck cares? It's true.

I'm on the side of, huh? Some people are for the art. And just the art. Some people are not in a tension fight, like an attention battle. I don't think Rhapsody loses sleep. I don't think Cleo Soul was the example I used. I'd say Cleo Soul just

put out the dope music and go away. She don't look to be seen, heard from. She ain't trying to talk to you. She ain't looking for an interview. And organically, she grows. And you're like, yeah yeah but then what do you know i think there's people to do that and people to do that thanks you just spoke to what i'm talking about yeah being okay with my base my core and what my art brings back it took me a while to get there though i mean like any other artist i was kind of forced into it you know because i went to every major label in the beginning and nobody really

got me so i had to i was indie before indie was cool what era was this it wasn't trendy huh what era um so like oh five you know um oh four i was going to every label and nobody got it so I just started to go little by little and my live show really was the sell I couldn't afford radio you know what I'm saying so when the label started to come I wasn't interested anymore I'm like all right y'all weren't there when I needed you but also it showed me that there was more than one way you know there was more than one way i could really find my people and there weren't really a lot of black artists at that time like i had to study like dave matthews and like these white rock bands who were okay with having their own fan base and building that and so now that indie's trendy and stuff it started to make things

you know look like i kind of had things figured out or like I was a genius in that way. But I really was just putting one foot in front of the other. I wanted that. So then you got to grow into that comfort because when these artists come to me and want me to produce and stuff,

or like at one time, I don't want to sign artists anymore. But like when I was into that and telling them, you know, it could take 10 years to, like that to like this you can't really hear that you can't really like ten year what do you mean like you know but that's really a real thing if you want a real thing because it takes time to build trust you know and you know what

I mean and then so people trust me my base trust me when I put out a record cuz I'm is quality you know and they know it's going to be there. Sharing my story out there. And so the major aspect of it, like, you know, and this is, you know, sometimes I'm not real, you know, like you said, you know, flexing. But these are facts, right? But I just won four Grammys in a row, you know, consecutive, four consecutive years. Let's give him four good shots. One for each Grammy.

Yeah, let's go. But that was kind of me, like, infiltrating the major. Like, I wasn't quite playing that game, and that kind of happened. And so now some of the major. For mistake Grammys. I wasn't even trying to win on the humbug. No, I'm not saying it like that, but you know what I mean? Like, now. No. Because your now, because your bass speaks for you.

I never won. That's boring. But your bass speaks for you, you know what I mean? So it's like, once they start seeing that, then the hype machine is like, okay, we paying attention, too. Did the Grammys help, as far as awareness? For sure. My first year, I lost with my album, Gumbo, that that did really well but I was against Bruno Mars but I was grateful

because everybody's like who is this guy in the category with Bruno Mars you know what I mean that is still a very real thing

when Bruno Mars name popped up what'd you say when you was watching like oh nah I can't fuck with him oh no yeah

when the nominations came out it was Bruno I'm like oh yeah cool let's have fun let's just have a good time. Make a move. Find a party to go to or something.

Let's just have a good time. We're going to be at the Grammys. Let's just. My wife was mad. But I'm like, you knew. I knew I was going to lose. A day where you got to calm your wife down for you. Bulls, Bulls.

Yo, that's Bruno. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you're supposed to know this. But no, I was like, let's just have a good time. We're not beating Bruno Yeah They make good drinks Nice drinks

Word Yeah I'm still on that Yeah Yeah that's something That's crazy You see You see he dress like Boyz II Men

Don't let him come in here And fucking He gonna drop some sauce On these niggas It's crazy Cause my life is like Nine lives Like

How old are you? I'm 41 I'm 41 But I so I'm a preacher my dad was a big preacher so preacher's kid I had that was one life right I went to Morehouse I started as a songwriter my my sophomore year I wrote for NDI Re I met her in Atlanta and that album won a Grammy and that kind of started my life, right? But then when I graduated, I went and toured. My first tour was with Erykah Badu as her keyboard player and guitar player. And then after that, I went with Jermaine Dupri. It's done, though.

You're a nigga. It's just crazy when you put it all together, because people know me from different things. And usually the one side doesn't know the other side. I can relate to that 100%. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? I'm in Maroon 5. Like, I'm the keyboard player in the Maroon 5.

Been in Maroon 5 for 12 years. Like, one of the biggest bands in the world. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Get away from that part. Hold on. Shut up.

It's a little different. It's a little different. Come on. Just drop that one in there like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are we doing man You wasn't on this

Nah That's the first album Alright Yeah 12 years So I started Oh yeah When it got super Yeah super pop

So like right before moves Like Jagger and stuff Is when But you know Wait Yo why is he doing this Yo yo yo You know my father

You know my father Was in the Graceful Dad But I'm just saying like I guess that keeps me Humble too Like because I You know I don't want to see you

Not humble then bro I'm saying because I really don't want to see you Not humble Up and down Like I've been I go for I fuck with this

All this shit This is great I don't even remember Why I was telling you all of that, but it was to tell you a combination of yourself. You met Indie Irie in sophomore year, then it was Erica, my dude, then it was Maroon 5. You studied for a final Indie Irie, walked in the library, it was just going.

No, she won that grade in my junior year. Oh, okay. Hey, what a coincidence. Look how that worked. But duh, duh, it's a crazy life but then i also like i said nope you know i can usually walk down any street you know when people aren't familiar which is kind of awesome to me don't you like that that's the best part i love that yeah fuck that so so you're accomplished you're popping you are saying because a lot of artists

will really definitely take the notoriety over the money or the notoriety especially these days you are the total opposite well I think it's a you know

yeah I mean listen I want people to like my music I want fans I want to keep growing and I want all of that but I think what I used to chase

was the perception of success versus actual success you know and so so a lot of the things I was looking and I'm like man why I'm not at that table or why I'm not in that conversation it's really a lot of them wanted the things that I had you know and I was doing and so like shout out russ man i think he's a great example as well like 10 years of this but like successful and and existing it was a lesson i learned um this guy ar ramon who was like um he's an indian artist and producer he did like slumdog millionaire he um scored that and i used to work with him and i didn't know who he was at first right but he came to Atlanta to work with me and I went to a gas station with him it shut down I'm like who is in

my car like I and then I went to Phillips Arena the the arena in Atlanta and he had a concert that night and I'm like I wonder who he's opening for like this crazy arena it's 20,000 people and I go in there, and it's him. It's no opener. It's nothing. And that, for me, kind of like put it in perspective. Like, when people say, who are you? They think that's an insult.

And it's like, that doesn't take any value away. You know what I mean? So, I think in the long run, it's really about building your audience. It's really why I mess with you on ip and understanding like yeah i had to turn this down or i turn that down or because so many people told me because my friends are in the industry obviously like yo p let me just give you one let me give you one and then you could do anything you want to do after that and i'm like but that one could literally change my life and i have to sing that one my whole life and I have to be that person my whole life and it attracts an audience that I don't know if I want in my circle like nah I know that sounds

simple but I'm cool that's a different level of discipline B yeah no it's taking that one give me a half of one yeah some yeah well artists got to learn that and humans got to learn it right like whatever you put out something's gonna come back from that so you better make sure that that song represents you well yeah because you're gonna have to do it for 20 years if it works you know and and the people that read that that resonated with they're gonna want more are now fans of you but they're gonna want more of that you got to do it again so you you guys are you artists too but from that perspective why can't You guys are artists too, but from that perspective, why can't...

How do I word it? Why don't we allow people to be multifaceted? Like, why does it have to be pump it up or nothing? Or why does it have to be this dark, dreary place? Or, like, we all are human beings and we all go through different moods and we all... You know what I mean? Do you go to the health food spot for chopped cheese? No. Yes, exactly.

But I could be an individual that on Monday, I could eat a chopped cheese, even though I don't eat beef, but I could eat that, and then tomorrow I could be eating kale and salmon. We are all multifaceted individuals. Why the fuck do we hold artists to just be one thing? That's what I'd be saying when i'm cheating what you just said though like on monday you go get the chopped cheese and you want it from there yeah from that place so as a fan you can be more listen as a fan you could be multifaceted and i want this from this artist yeah but as an artist you can artists to be like so it's a few especially like older artists right you you'll hear a ballad

from this person and then you can hear up-tempo song from this person and we wouldn't knock them because they appealing to somebody else with the ballad and we the up-tempo song from this person and we wouldn't knock them because they appealing to somebody else with the ballad and we the up-tempo joint Whitney Houston might give you you know I mean and then she'll give you this with the new artist it's like yo I don't want to hear that from them and I just think that's unfair to them I'm thinking you got to train you got to be willing to do that up front and not be scared because I mean that that's a scary place to be to switch up because you don't know if your audience is going to come with you but literally outcasts made their careers on saying you don't

even know what's going to be true we don't know what's coming so like their audience came to be comfortable with like I don't care what it's going to be as long as it's them it's unfair to you to say no I can't take the one from my man that's giving it to me because I don't want to. Oh, no, but it was more me, though. It was more me. Like, I don't like that. You're telling me to do something that I don't want to do. Like, just to catch one.

Yeah, just to catch one wasn't worth it for me. Yeah, no, for sure. So what is catching one for PJ Morton, though? That's what I don't even know what a hit is anymore today. I don't know if that word is a thing today. I don't know if that word is a thing today. I don't think so. It's so segmented. So segmented.

I say it's like cable television now versus it used to be CBS, NBC, ABC, and you watch all your. Now we got a person that watches ESPN may never watch Food Network, but it's a million people watching both of them. You know what I mean? And none of them are know what i mean and and and none of them are trying to be each other each other so um i don't know what that means anymore and i that's why i said i'm it's more comfort for me and even when i talk to uh because i always check in just because i'm you know i'm curious all the time but like even the majors are understanding that it's segmented so let's just get the top person at each segment now.

You know what I'm saying? Because it's going to keep on being more divided. So a hit is a weird. Usually if you're shooting for everybody today, it's an L. Fail. Fail. Yeah. Yeah.

I started with that. Trying to get everybody to like it. Trying to hit everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Can't do it. How many shows you do a year?

I mean, you know, I go between my solo and Maroon shows. So, after the pandemic, I wanted to make sure

I was home more and like, got to be in the studio more because I would usually just be in, on the road. Maybe a hundred dates a year or something like that. Of your shows or combined?

Probably combined, unless it was a crazy year. There was one year where I hit, I don't call it rock bottom. It was like rock top, I guess. Because I was going so crazy and it was both successful at the same time. But you were never home. And I had one day home between this US tour and the Asian tour. and I'm like yo like if this is great this is what I asked for but like Asian I'm not yeah rage probably went up yeah I'm bad at geography yeah no we went over there though yes out these yeah yeah because Southeast Japan Scraped Yeah Oh Yeah Another one shot There you go More yen

Cause this tour This solo tour Everybody had the back end Ready too right 40 something days The back end was secure It was all there Wasn't nothing missing

Locked in man Locked in Locked in Yeah but Solo probably 50 dates a year Okay Yeah

That's a lot though Yeah no That's a lot It's a lot It's a lot I'm trying something new this time Where I build in Two weeks in between

So two weeks On tour Two weeks off Two weeks on Okay I'm just trying You know We don't see that

I'm just trying Playing my own schedule nigga That's their independence What That's their independence I do what I want Lil Maroon don't help Lil Burgundy

Maroon man Lil Burgundy You know Maroon has allowed me To be as free You know what I mean. Lil Maroon don't help. Lil Burgundy. Maroon, man. Lil Burgundy, you know. Maroon has allowed me to be as free. You know what I mean? I give a lot of love to them because they allowed me to not care about sales initially before I start to figure it out. That was mine.

I mean, that's been my base. They took care of me. What do you play? Keyboards with them? I play keys, yeah, and sing backs. I opened up tours. Oh, wow. Double Duty opened up.

Kelly Clarkson closed with Maroon. We did it overseas. We opened up Robin Thicke. All right, dog. Yeah. Yo, fam. Yeah, yeah. But no, for real, that allowed me to not care.

Exactly. Because it didn't matter whether I sold or anything. And I was going to say that. Which is, you know, I know that that is not everybody's situation. So I feel blessed with that, you know. There you are. A little bit. Yeah, for sure.

Nah, that's dope. Super dope. I was going to actually ask, like, yo, the fact that you have other things going on allows you the flexibility and the ability to say, nah, I don't want that. Everybody don't have the ability to say, i don't want that yeah everybody don't have the ability to say yo my man over here is one of them and he gonna hit me with one of them and i can say nah everybody don't have the ability to do that even though i did say nah before maroon

you know what i mean like i was that way i was that way all the way i mean before i did like i literally my friends are the biggest producers in the, you know what I mean? Like, and they always, because they wanted that for me. Because they knew I was a great artist. And they like, Pete, please just let me. And I'm like, bro, I just, I know what that means, ultimately. But for sure, when Maroon came years later, it. It went from nah to nah.

It's like, really nah. It's like. A lot of A's. I'm good. I'm good I'm good yeah How long you been married? I've been married 13 years

That's some of the reason For them nahs Yeah oh man Stability Nah no Stability Stay over there with that Smash

Stay over there Nah I got you That's dope Yeah nah That's been great too i'm sitting here in awe right because so many times you'll meet the guy who you'll know he's that dude but the viewing public might not know that he's that dude so you meet that dude and you'll be wanting to be like yo you that dude and everybody should know it

but that dude be saucy like this him who the last nigga came and did that same chanel just did it and they can and did these niggas come here and they'd be like oh shit you that nigga already like oh fuck them you're just wrong like how do you go about having this information having done all that you've done and when you go home say all right how do i expand my base yeah that's something i do all the time because i'm like like i'll get scientific about it you know i'm saying i um i went to morehouse my degrees in marketing so i'm always thinking about how to sell things and how to present things. But what I've gotten to, Joe, honestly, right now, I mean, this last album is why I shot so crazy.

Asked every favorite. I mean, I got Stevie and Nas on the song together. You know what I'm saying? Jill Scott, Bill DeBarge. This is really why I shot because I don't know how much longer I can be a maniac And like That way Try to compete Or like

Roll out And like I think I want to create art But I don't know That I could be crazy like that Because I get I get crazy Like on how to set things up

And Roll things out And like That's what I think about all day You have to be As an independent Yo for sure It never stops

You know You can have the greatest team in the world But you still And you should be on a major as well That's what I think about all day. You have to be as an independent. Yo, for sure. It never stops. You can have the greatest team in the world, but you still want to be on the board. And you should be on a major as well. True. That should be you. True, true. Yeah. You saying? No, saying.

If you're on a major, you should have the same mentality. Oh, no. You have to be. Be meticulous about your shit. I signed to Young Money for one album. I was in between. Why the hell did you do that, PJ Morton? I really.

Oh, yeah. Let's get to some of your blunders. Right. Yeah. tell me about some of the mistakes made along the way i wouldn't call it a blunder i learned a lot um and my thing was more of a family way mac main shout out to mac main we went to high school together and um this was right after wayne was just getting out of jail and they were they were trying to pivot too and sign different things and um and they signed me everybody was confused like well you want young money like that's weird uh but they let me do what i want to do i think that was part of the genius of young money um throughout the whole thing is when drake came with 40 they didn't say all right now you're here let's get timberland and let's get you know know I mean they like we like that keep doing that Nikki was Nikki they like keep doing the voices and you

know I mean and they left me alone like on the creative they just let me do my thing the only thing was the process of like their mixtape was my can you put me on the road or you know what I mean it was just different languages so ultimately but I you know I put out an album you know what I mean it was just different languages so ultimately but I you know I put out an album you know oh what's the name of that album that album's called

New Orleans yeah it's called New Orleans Stevie was on that he was playing harmonica on that song on that album but like I had no idea

Stevie Wonder that's when I first joined the wrong five Stevie Wonder you can't just be calling him Stevie though like you grew up with but if that's Stevie he's one of the artists that's on a I say Wonder. Stevie Wonder. You can't just be calling him Stevie, though. Like, you grew up with... But you know who my man is.

But if that's Stevie. Yes. He's one of the artists that's on a... That's one name. How did you get cool with Stevie, though? How did you get cool with Stevie? I need to hear this story. That was my first reach out.

I had... It was really a Hail Mary. Like, I had met him before. I knew his drummer at the time. And I'm like, I really want Stevie to play harmonica on this song and so I'm like I'ma just try

and so I hit him cause that's how it has to happen at this point it's like what are you gonna like pitch it oh yeah

I'ma help Stevie's you know look right like make it you know what I mean he's just gotta wanna do it and you gotta be able

to get it to him so I was able to get it to him he So I was able to get it to him. He loved it. I mean, he just did it. That was it. This one was more, I needed more relationship with this out. To do a duet with him is after we form more of a relationship. I'm on his album.

He's working on a new album, and we did a duet on his album. So I was like, hey, man, you mine? It's this little ditty. Yeah, but it was fully just a reach out. And then a lot of people say I sound similar to him sometimes. So I think he saw me. And he has a radio station in LA. He's very active in that radio station.

So he knows what's playing there. And he listens. He told me my song first began he was like I wish I wrote that song. So that was that's still

the biggest compliment I think I've ever gotten. Yeah. Yeah. Like yeah. I think for musicians that's amazing right? Yes.

For one I think they don't just want to work with everybody. Yeah. So I think that's just a statement like yo Stevie Wonder said yes.

Right. Twice. You feel what I'm saying? Like Ne- neo was like yo i asked him i said yo what was your favorite album because i'm a neo like stan fan right so i'm like yo what's your favorite album he said um libra scale and i was like word and he was like yo it wasn't because it didn't get the critical acclaim of the album that came before the prince, the Prince thing. Yeah, I heard that. And he said to join about Prince. Mm-hmm. Tell people. You're doing that thing.

I'm listening. You're doing that thing. He might not have seen that particular episode. I don't know if he's done that. I don't watch. He knows Prince. He knew Prince.

He knew everybody. My bad. I ain't mean to step on your story. I'm just an asshole, dog. My bad. Damn, it ain't you, I should have just let you say that, that's me,

that's me, I take that. Sam, as an art, like, that gotta be something. Tell him about our episode five weeks ago. Oh,

man. I'm not, oh, here, listen, yo, don't, you can tell us,

since you know Stevie. Oh, he can't see Is that what you're about to say? Yo tell the truth yo You're a lot Come on man What's wrong with this man?

Come on give it up Give it up He would actually play this game with you Cause he He's silly But nah No What do you mean?

Come on You see him doing some shit Where he was like I never caught him doing anything man He drives all the time I've never seen him drive Alright, man. He drives all the time. I've never seen him drive. All right.

People let him drive, though. Yo. Yeah. All right. Yo, stop. I know in hip hop, we let a lot of dangerous things just roll by. Yeah.

Should Stevie want to be driving? I don't know, but I, like, that's not something for me to answer. That thing,

was Oprah in the car when he was driving before? Yo. I think there was something be driving? I don't know. That's not something for me to answer. Even though. Was Oprah in the car when you drive before? I think there was something. So say you're at the studio with Stevie, you know, harmonica solos and all that shit, and you're about to leave. It's 3 o'clock in the morning. Let me drive. Took his glasses. He went down to the car. He's like, yo, you need a ride? And dapped you up.

Nah, nah, you need a ride? Nah, I don't think I'm saying yes to that. I'll just be like, Steve, I got it. Just give me the keys. I'll drive. Even though, you know, I go down these YouTube rabbit holes. One of them captions got me. Hey, this chick without arms or legs drives.

And I saw it. Oh, I did. I saw that. Click. I got you. And don't you know, she wobbled her ass in there and drove. What'd she do, child? Oh, though.

Y'all seen it. She did it. Word. Little things. Got in there. Little things. She started to come to you. How'd she start the car?

Like this. Yo, stop. It was push start. Word. You better Yo, stop. It was push start. You better stop, yo. Now I'm saying you pushed it. He's probably got a Tesla, Stevie. Yeah, of course. Oh, well, autopilot.

Yeah. I've never seen Stevie D. I'm saying I've just heard that legend. Damn, that was funny. Yeah. Oh, man. Y'all going to get fucked up for that. Y'all.

So you pushed start the wheel. She did like up for that. Y'all. So you put start the whip still. Wow. Yo, how come nobody will steal the ball from Hansel, from the dude?

They try. They be trying. They don't try hard. You bugging. Nah, you bugging. I'm a believer. That nigga was in

I believe in him too. I'm saying I see people try to rip him for real. I seen him try to rip him. He just played in

the draw I think. He got a way to rip him for real. I seen him try to rip him. He just played in the draw, I think. And he was kicking it. He got a way to like push his face. I know. I know. No, I'm saying. I hear you.

You don't get that part. These niggas are funny, yo. He signed a D1 deal. I hear you. Ice, you bugging. State championships and shit on the line, I wouldn't give a fuck.

I'm ripping him You don't have the ability To do so I'm not spearing that nigga Man hit him in the arm Then what Foul I'm going on the line

And make my free throws Oh whatever You bugging yo Back to being I had no idea See I'd be on the court He ain't got no life That nigga would

That nigga would. That nigga would. He would make you get some more glasses. You would be a Lunchable. That guy would have a blast with you. All right, so you're at Apollo tonight, and I know you're excited because you wore your Apollo bracelet. No, I didn't. It's all right.

They make you take a test to be vaccinated. I didn't want to take it off. I forgot this. Because I listened to the pod, I this got your problem vaccinated um um thing on that vaccinated well that's what it says because you take the test so it means that you don't have covid yeah what can they expect from you tonight that's my one little journalist that's my little journalist question it's gonna be a vibe I mean, it's a historic place. I think you feel all of that stuff in there from James Brown on.

And it's like what I do, I think even more than R&B, I do soul music. You know, like that's kind of like what I'm trying to carry on and continue to carry on. And like that place, Sold Out, is just going to feel crazy, especially where I started in New York. I remember playing The Little Room in Apollo, you know what I'm saying, with like 200 people. So I'm grateful, man. Damn, I might want to try

to come to that tonight. What time you going? Come through. I'm up at nine. Prompt. We be on, you know. You not a rapper time? Hmm?

You not a rapper time? Nah, nah. We really be on. Nah, you get the fuck out of there. Yeah. In and out. Did you see the Will Smith apology? I saw a portion of it.

I saw him answering the questions. I wish they would have showed me who was asking those questions. In the clips I saw, it was just Will Smith. Yeah. Yeah, no, it was just like, yeah, I think that was on purpose. Like, you probably saw how much flack they were saying when he was supposed to go to the red table and it's like least people involved as possible how what do you think about this whole ordeal like what part of it would you be doing an apology video yeah i guess that's

the apology tour part of it um I think it's admirable I mean I don't know It's like Whatever his time was Cause I think there was a time Where it would have felt Too early too You know

So I don't think There was a right time For him If somebody smacked The shit out of you Would you accept their apologies Six months later No

He said he'd try it right after though Yeah no Yeah And And Chris was He wasn't with that yeah and and chris was like i'm good i'm good i don't want it now either yeah yeah no yeah he probably good period or maybe like if i was in that it's probably like we don't really ever have to talk it's cool it's that part too yeah we're good we don't really have to talk about it. I'm still over there. I do like that he apologized to the family, though, to his mom and to the brother, Tony. You know, I carry grudges, but I think this was dope.

I think that as two real powerful black men, we need to see this in public. I'm saying that Chris Rock don't ever have to want, accept, or do it. That's what I'm saying. I didn't want it then. I don't need it now. I'm good. Just like what he said at the show. I'm not a victim what I'm saying I didn't want it then like I don't need it now I'm good just like what he said at the show

I'm not a victim like I'm off that shit yeah he might not have did it for Chris though at the end of the day I think he did it for them PR games

yeah that's what he did it for I like the family stuff too though I want that yeah yeah that was fun because publicly Chris's mother spoke out

Tony Rock was like yo when I see him it's up so I think that you need to address those things cause you're not thinking about you're thinking about Chris Rock you're not thinking about

his wife or his kids or his mom all of these people and he spoke to that yeah and I think that's dope I really think that that's dope I think it's fly

but yeah Chris Rock don't have to accept his apology yeah that's all I was saying I think it's good for us yeah I just think it's good for us you know. I just think it's good for us.

You know what I'm saying? Also, like, the part where he kind of said he's trying to not be ashamed, but also, like, realize that he made a mistake. I think that's... Important. Yeah, that's important to say. I think that's, like, that takes growth, and people need to hear that as well. Like, you could make a mistake, but not, like, live in it.

You know what I'm saying? Because the thing, right... Damn damn what was i about to say yeah i've had that thought thinking back about this watching the apologies it's like and i might even came on here and been like niggas get smacked every day like the smack of the smack but it was on like the grandest stage. And it was during so many people's important moment. Right? Like that point is relevant for me, even with Beyonce's album dropping and Khalees saying what she had to say. Right? Even if there's valid points in anything Khalees is saying. Like, why are we just going to step on this person's moment right now?

That was my point when Puff won that award. And the day after mace was like but wait a minute hey i'm cool with that but don't steal moments from people i understand people wanting to beat they uh beat up the couple that proposes at my wedding oh yeah that's me that's me they're getting jumped you You feel the same? Yeah. A thousand percent. Y'all? Yeah. We're all packing them smooth out. Wrong time. See? Wrong time.

I think it's so. Packed smooth out. Just let them have their moment. Let me have my moment. Don't propose in the middle of my wedding. Yeah, I agree with that. What other music-y questions do I have for PJ Morton? Very rarely do we get musicians here that know about music.

Hmm. What was your first instrument? Drums. Oh, yeah? Yeah. You still play? No, I'm not good at drums. I realized pretty early, especially when you grow up in church,

drummers are good. So I realized, oh, I'm not going to be the best at it, so let me go to something else. Where are you from? From New Orleans. Oh, word. Oh, so you were saying. Yeah. Get busy,y Church. A music town. It's a different church. Mm-hmm no it was yeah but drummers are the main thing because I think as

musicians in general we that's the that's the easiest to start because there's no notes so like it's purely rhythm and so guys get good really quick and I just realized like I'm going to be one of the best. Nope, this is not for me. Yeah. And the drummer in the black church. Well, who are the best in your field? Who are the best?

Who are the best? Like right now? Wow. That's like, I mean, well, I got to shout out Adam Blackstone, who is music director to the stars. He's part of the reason that connected me to Maroon 5, actually. Omar Edwards is one of my favorites. Corey Henry is a keyboard player that is, I think, one of the best, period, in the world. Travis Sales from New York.

I met these guys when I was probably 20 and they were like 16. They were blazing. I was like, okay, I'm going to write songs. Every time I see I'm not going to be the... I'll give you something else. Let me do something where I can be the best. But no, that's

something that come off the top of my head. As a drummer, my drummer, Ed Clark from New Orleans. We've been playing since I was 12. Spanky is one of my favorite drummers from Philly. It's a bunch of amazing musicians, though. Have you ever gotten fucked out of your publishing? No.

The very first, I wouldn't, so the NDR re-song, I remember. That is the fuck voice. That you got on it. Because I didn't know if I was going to be totally honest, but I'll be honest. The first song I did, it was a gospel song when I was 15. It was my first placement when I was 15. And they took half of my publishing. I was a kid. You little fucking 15-year-old, give me the publishing. I was a kid.

You little fucking 15-year-old. Give me the song. I was a kid. So it just taught me, though. So they reproduced the song, though. And I remember I produced it in my SY-85 Yamaha. And when it used to overload, it would drop out. And I remember the producers actually did the dropout on purpose.

And so as a 15-year-old, I'm like, yo, they did my mistake over. I think I know what I'm doing. And that was my lesson. And then, yeah, the NDI Re was my first when I was in college. It was like, I wrote that song. And it was some publishing stuff. What song? It's called Interested.

It was on her Voyage to India album. That album was amazing. Yeah. but um it's called interested it was on her voyage to india album yeah yeah and um yeah but but not not really you know like that was early on and it never happened again to be honest with you never happened again learn quickly yeah i did but can you get fucked being indie i don't know i'm not a musician well i'm not i wasn't an indie songwriter producer you know I'm saying like I was doing I was always working on major things I was with Jermaine Dupri for years after the B Cox years I would say they went and Mariah and changed the whole game that I came in like I came in and I was with Jermaine but I went to Jermaine I went to JD school and he's he's he's one of the greatest man at being connected.

Like, I'm not surprised that he has people talking right now because he's literally always thinking of like, how can we create a moment? And he's a genius. They called me into the moment. Yeah. I'm not surprised. He's he's about that pulse. So but I went through that. So I worked on, you know, Monica at that time, yeah. I'm not surprised. He's about that pulse. But I went through that.

So I worked on, you know, Monica at that time, Jagged Edge at that time. So you can in that sense. Gotcha, gotcha. But I never really did. It was always like respect or I don't know. I don't know why.

You're just a good dude. Yeah, I guess. Good dudes get messed over every day though. Talk about it. Wake that up. That's certainly true. Yeah, I guess. Good dudes get messed over every day, though. Talk about it. Wake that up. That is certainly true. Yeah, for sure.

My last Stevie question to you, because I'm just enamored by this. Is there anybody you think could see him in a Versus? There's so many songs. Outside of us. I mean, but it's 20, though. That's the thing about Versus. Smokey Robinson. It doesn't matter because it's 20. So it doesn't matter how many songs you have. Yeah, it's's 20, though. That's the thing about verses. Smokey Robinson. It doesn't matter because it's 20. So it's like, it doesn't matter how many songs you have.

Yeah, it's just 20 of them. It's just like, but all, every one of his 20, though, is like the songbook of America. You know what I mean? It's like of the world. So that would be tough. I don't think so. I think he's one of our greatest songwriters of all time. He's got a crazy 20.

If not the, you know. Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah. Smokey would be up there, though. Living? Yeah, Smokey's got some joints. And then he'd go to the other ones. He wrote a lot of people's shit.

Yeah. But then Stevie will tell me something good for shotgun. Yeah, true. You know, like, he's got some sneaky ones. I know that. Yeah. Yeah. Y'all better know.

That's where it would catch you, on the sneaky ones. They friends. You better stop I said I didn't know that talking about the pen part don't get Smokey's pen angry don't get Smokey's pen angry what else we got for TJ

on your own albums do you do all your own instrumentation or do you bring in your band no I bring in I delegate that like I rather usually create it first in the box and you know like

get the idea but especially this time this record we went to the country we went to Bugaloosa Louisiana I'd rather usually create it first in the box and get the idea. But especially this time, this record, we went to the country, went to Bugaloosa, Louisiana. Okay. And locked in and rode out there. And it's this studio that was built in the 70s. It's the only thing in Bugaloosa, basically. I never even heard of Bugaloosa since I heard.

Yeah, it's like nothing out there but this amazing studio That was built in the 70s Stevie actually did Secret Life of Plants Out there It's a Frankie Beverly And Maze album That was done out there But no I'm big on Like the band

And like Yeah horns on this All of that stuff But I bring them in Even keys? No I play all my keys Okay Yeah

So yo Nobody's gonna Get that more than me Right You write music? Mmhmm how do yo that i take my hat off to them like you're the right music yeah like because like i'm sure you do this but where the fuck do you just have a blank slate and you just start saying yo the clarinet might be good right here and then the trombone is good over like kanye said he just literally could see

it yeah like that's yeah you got that thing where you can see the notes but i i don't i i just i usually hear it when i'm at the piano i hear it all everything else yeah everything else that's happening but every producer is doing that basically yeah you know i mean they're they're yeah and would you play out of tune piano? Like where? To myself? Yeah, I mean, I've sat at out of tune pianos. I can't resist playing a piano usually. If I'm around one,

it's like, let me just see. And pianos be out of tune pretty frequently. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Unless it's like a well-maintained studio or stage. Yeah, yeah.

We have to tune ours at the studio like weekly. You think the average listener today... No clue. No clue. Nah, they know Keyscape, and it's in tune every time. Why are you even using a real piano?

Yeah, a real piano. Yeah, no, I'm old school, I guess, when it comes to that, because they wouldn't relate to the out-of-tune piano. You can tell? Yeah, hell yeah. You can tell too? Yeah, for some... I'm asking Joe here, not you. No, no, no. You can tell? Yeah, hell yeah. You can tell too? Yeah, for something, but...

I'm asking Joe here, not you. No, no, no. You can tell that? Really? Sounds like nails out of chocolate. Know how y'all

couldn't tell that that boy wasn't singing in the right key? I knew that's where he was going. Yo, dog, stop. I knew exactly where he was going.

And both of them jumped right away, yo. Both of them. Yo, it's that shit sound alright yo it's 12 octaves he only hit 3

I'm like oh them 3 alright to me what am I missing out of tune piano I can't listen to a lot of that shit nah I can tell when somebody frames some shit and it's off

it's cool same thing same thing yeah I'm with you you can spot a crooked house right yeah I'm with you okay I wanted to ask you about this song this i love this song originally and your and your version listen but when i first heard this, I was very scared. Yeah. I know the rules with classics. Okay.

Yeah, I know the rules. Okay. And you knew that going into it? I knew that going into it. And I was having fun, and I knew it was a way. Like, it was a total different. And, like, how I kind of, you know, I did this. I did How Deep Is Your Love by the Bee Gees a couple

years before that. And it went real crazy. I love covers. Wait a second. I love a good cover. Yeah, yeah. People don't do it too much. And then the live one really went crazy with Yubba.

And this was one of my first Grammy for it. But, so going into this, I knew. But I was having fun. I'm going to find. I got the blessing My boy Rayman Plays for uh Uncle Charlie

And uh He heard it They was saying We should do your version I'm like nah Don't get too crazy But yeah I got the blessing

I'm going to buy this Go right there Stupid yo Gotta look at it That's me now I love that song yeah me too so the original

went crazy but then I did it live I did Gumbo Unplugged live live orchestra and everything we did it in the studio

here in New York and yeah that's what kinda that song specifically went kinda viral and then we won a Grammy for it, man. For the live version you won a Grammy?

For the live version. Yeah. That's a cheat code. The first version is when I was against Bruno. Yeah. But yeah, we won for a traditional performance. It's cheating. Yeah.

Great song. Great song. That's cheating. I'll take it. Take it? I'll take it. You take it too, right? What?

Twice on Sunday. That's cheating. I'll take it. Take it? I'll take it. You take it too, right? What? That is a cheat code. Twice on Sunday. That's not even a cheat, though. That's actually more of a nod to musicianship. That is true. With a whole live band. Or the death of it. What you mean?

Nod to the death of it? Or to the death of it. Yeah. How many artists get to even be in these categories? True. Yeah. They don't do it. They don't do it. They could, but they don't? True. Yeah. They don't do it. They don't do it.

They could, but they don't. They won't. They don't want to hire musicians. We were going to talk about, and I know you have to go. You got a show to prepare for. It's all good. And shit, I want to get there too. All right.

But we were talking about, well, we wanted to talk about Bobby Schmurda crowns Joyner Lucas the masterpiece of our generation for his indie rap success let's see the shit I hate about the industry is they don't talk about Joyner Lucas why the fuck niggas don't talk about him he could sit in his house and is actually making a quarter million a month off the shit that he's putting out that y'all are supporting he's an independent artist that niggas don't talk about and I like that shit I'm only gonna talk about the nigga really because he put a light. He like a master PNR generation. The nigga who's up off only giving out 20 percent of his music off distribution that made over 20 million dollars that nobody talks about. While all these capping rappers out here. All right, I'm done reading this.

What do you think about today's definition of independent? I think it does get cloudy sometimes, but this to me sounds like somebody who was on a major and is just starting to understand how independence works because I know, not a million, but I know a lot of Joyner Lucases that are in these indie systems, that are in the empire system like you know shout out to gazi he allowed for these guys to see this amount of money it's not we love you

gazi yeah it's not just joiner doing that i mean that's not rare to me what i'm what i'm reading but it's it literally sounds like somebody who went into that major system got all that money and they was like you can't do this you can't and now he's just realizing like oh wow you can do this but i think that is a slight to master p because master p wasn't about one record or one artist yeah what made him him was the fact that he employed and made a bunch of records go for a bunch of years you know what i'm saying and got a deal that nobody will get again exactly yeah so yeah i think um one of what he was saying though is that we don't hear about it as much as we should you get what i'm saying we don't hear about it because the labels don't want you're saying it's a bunch of them yeah yeah he's saying we don't hear about it as much as we should because they

don't want to highlight the fact that these boys are over here making this much money and don't necessarily have to sell their souls to do something. Why would they want to highlight it? Not even that. But other artists should highlight it. Why would they do that? The labels is controlling all the shit you see. These niggas. Controlling the playlisting and controlling who gets the interviews.

That was a part of it. They hate Russ, yo. Yeah. But that was a part of his argument. That was a part of his argument. His argument was nobody is knowing it, nobody's seeing it, nobody's congratulating this guy that's sitting in his house making a shit ton of money because they would rather push the rappers that's capping about how much money they really got. Well, I'm in bed with these rappers. Yeah, that's what they benefit from.

These rappers work for me. Sure, that makes sense. Why would I talk about him? That definitely makes sense. But why would the others not congratulate him? Because if we out here trying to do the black empowerment movement and get away from the labels more shit like this needs to be highlighted is what i took because i heard the i heard the interview but think about it where are they going to highlight it at bobby schmurda's an independent artist so yeah he's saying this now got you these niggas are signed they're not going to they might not even know no they know they know the

sign artists know yeah they know it's a perception business, though. Like, I literally have had a conversation with a high exec, and I'm like, yo, when I, because I've gone back to that well every time, because I, you know, I think that there's no one way, like I always say. And sometimes I was, maybe got a little lazy or got a little tired, and it's like, man, I would like a budget. Like, I would like a budget like i would like you know what i'm saying like man and you know i always come back to just do it pj because you get

that and then you frustrated in that system and but um but i literally asked one of the guys when i was gonna sign like all right you know how much it don't take me much to make a record i'm doing it myself you know if i'm like in the black and successful but not your biggest is that a good and he's like well no

we're in the business of hits and superstars so I'm like so you rather lose money than you know what I mean cause usually

one artist is keeping the building alive you know what I mean and so the others can lose and lose and lose because one is taking care of it so that told me that i may be in a whole different business all together

like i don't even know that that model is even what i'm trying to do i'm trying to create for a certain price sell things and be successful and okay and sell out tours you know what i mean but like yeah it's a it's a whole different business so they wouldn't want to shine it on that because the if they told the truth it would be like way more else yeah yeah yeah do you do a lot of physicals like cds tapes um we do a lot of vinyl now we still i had stopped cds but some people kept asking. So I'm like, well, all right. So we just bring them on tour. But vinyls have gone crazy the last four years, probably. We do really well on vinyls.

And I got a lot of albums. So we do the five, four, you know. OK. Package deal. Like the package joints. And those go crazy. So, yeah. And if he knew all the information about how great Independence was,

And if he knew all the information about how great independence was, maybe Bobby Shmurda never jumps on top of the table to audition for Epic. Yeah. Probably not. Yeah. But again, that just comes from the ignorance. And when I say ignorance, I mean he's ignorant. I mean lack of knowledge. But now you're starting to get new information. But that's why they don't want that new information.

They wouldn't put a shine of light on it. They control all this shit. Are you going to jump into this? Might be my final question. Are you going to jump into, at any point, the toxic R&B wave that's happening out there? It wouldn't be authentic. My church was scamming.

How are you going to do this? I'm kind of in the business of trying to be authentic. They would spot that from a mile away. Like, all right, PJ, you reach it. Relax. I let everybody, I let the toxic guys do that. Got it. I'm going to handle the love and the light.

You know what I mean? And it's not, everything's not great. Because, I mean, on this album, that know, the light. You know what I mean? And it's not, everything's not great because, I mean, on this album, that was, looks how she look. Now we were really going through things.

Please Don't Walk Away was real. Stop, shut up. Okay. You want to see her face? Can you see her face? Yo, stop it, yo. That face is,

no, no, no. That was real. She was almost gone. You don't even know what toxic is, yo. She might have been walking away and he was like, don't run, though me He don't even know What toxic is She might have been Walking away And he was like

Don't run though He helped me a bunch of times But nah that was real So like I'm not saying perfection In these records But like honesty And it's like

And like Was there dishonesty When she was about To walk away What you mean What you trying to get Right now Yeah yeah

She's right there Don't answer that Don't answer that. No, we always honest. Just like you. Always. On God. Well, I think that's

something to worry about. Yeah. I'm so glad that you were able to stop by before your show man I'm a huge fan you might be even better person

than the artist man you're hilarious appreciate you bro hey that's a lot to come do this then go do a show oh man

I got yeah I'm hype about this barbershop talk in these pants I saw him with the cuff the light swagged him out and the cuff. The light was on.

Swagged him out. And I can see what's going on. Oh, no. I've been seeing that. I've been seeing that. You don't see the Gucci ring. I did see that. Lil G.

That's my wedding ring, man. I know. You got married to Gucci. 13 years old. What's her name? Huh? The Gucci lady? Oh, okay.

I thought you know. I just wanted to stay fly when I got married. I want to do a ring. I didn't want to lose it. You saw the Gucci movie? Yes, I did on the plane. I did not. I did.

I said no on the plane. I did not. He saw the Elvis movie too. Wasn't that bad on the plane? I didn't see that on the plane. That's what I watched. Yeah, it was okay on the plane actually. Stupid.

Are you guys going to thank PJ Morton? Oh, yeah. Yeah, he asked for it. Thank you, bro. Round of applause. Hold up. Yeah, nah. PJ Morton came back. Thank you, bro. Round of applause. Hold up. Yeah, man. Thank you.

Friend of the show, PJ Morton. You have an open invite anytime you're in town. Tell Stevie we said hi. You know what I mean? Stevie, fucking Babyface. I don't know Babyface. JD. Charlie Wilson.

JD. JD. JD. NDR Reed. Jill Scott. Nas. Jagged Edge. Montel Jordan. All the whole roomel Jordan, Domino, who else?

Cool G. Yeah, Cool G rap. This nigga done worked with everybody in the world. Big Condition, Stokely. Oh, Stokely, yeah. Jimmy. Christmas album. See?

Yeah. Check out the Christmas picture. He play it. You like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Christmas album is jamming. Like, Stokely smashed on that. Oh, my God. Yo, get out, yo.

Yo, yo. We thank PJ Morton for coming by. Like, Stokely smashed on that. Yo, get out, yo. Yo, yo. We thank PJ Morton for coming by. Oh, my God. Yo, you know, I'm going to have to go back to your little later song. Maybe she was about to leave. All these songs is like, don't leave. Hey, fam, you don't see her doing a... It's not a maybe, Joe.

I ain't got to hear a note. I see her face over there. Yeah, but... And I see this man over there like nine they got to be the media every day but this is the thing cuz every woman has the story of I was about to leave and while that might be juicy I like to hear from the men about yeah well how she didn't yeah you know what I mean how you didn't yeah I did some wild shit but was you

was you really going no I mean you gotta fix some shit sometimes of course absolutely alright go ahead to the parlor man

appreciate you anytime anytime my pleasure hey don't fight in the car I'm joking about what I'm saying

this is just for content. Hey, hold on. Let me get up. Oh. Oh, my God. I don't give a fuck. Oh, appreciate it, bro. Love.

Yeah. Oh, love. Appreciate you. Hey, good to meet you. Good to meet you, bro. Oh, my. Keep running. Hey, hey.

Work. Nice to meet you. I'm glad you worked it out. I'm glad you worked it out. Yo, yeah, Parks. I'm glad you worked it out I'm glad you worked it out Yo you hear Parks I'm glad you worked it out Guys Married dudes

wanna relate to each other I done did a Justine Justine of many nights nigga Stupid Alright microphone check 1, 2, 1, 2

Shout out to PJ man that was great PJ is awesome yo All right. Microphone check. One, two, one, two. Shout out to PJ, man. That was great. PJ is awesome, yo. Like, he's really, really, really. Came in here and stoned us real quick. That's why I don't do interviews. They all just come in here and stoning us.

Yeah, they was, you know, Stevie. Oh, y'all know him as Stevie Wonder, my bad. Please leave your message. Nah, ain't no leaving message Who you calling Stevie? Nah I don't have Stevie's phone number Text him Please leave your Damn

Damn Damn Alright mic check One two one two I was calling Melly Who stood us up Oh damn she's supposed to come through? She's supposed to come through

Last week Send her the number I'll call her for you Don't worry about it I got you Alright I won't but I'll just try to get her back here Shout out to Melly I'm playing some shit god damn it Fuck boys don't cry

Brand new Melly in your phone right now This is off that Medusa EP Melly we got a seat right here Waiting for you whenever you get a second And it go You gonna pull a video up huh Not that dude That's the one Another one up there You gonna pull a video, I buy it? Not that dude, that's the other one. Do another one up there.

It's a nice video. I, I, I, I, I never thought you'd You were never good at taking me out on a date You were only good at making me wait You were never a snake to the plant from the gate I was good at putting dinner on the plate for you But I know that fuck boys don't cry Fuck boys just lie

Fuck boys just don't I cried Cryed in the way that you lied You taught me good shit Turned around and did some good bitch You don't even care that my tears been falling from my eyes And I can't say the same for your side cause I know that

Fuck boys, don't cry Fuck boys, it's life Fuck boys, just don't have Truth in the game, they just telling you the same You keep the change, I believe in what I came with You stay the same, when I leave you never change shit Look what you're doing to my brain, I'm a city It's the sea to life, I'm repenting I know fuckboys don't cry Fuckboys is love

Fuckboys is don't Sunny day, sunny day, sunny day Fuckboys, yeah you've been away My sky's pink, there's no gray Catching these waves on a sunny day Sunny day, sunny day Fuckboys, since you've been away My sky's pink, there's no gray

Catching these waves on a sunny day Sunny day, sunny day Fuckboys, you this way My sky's rain clean, there's no gray Catching these graves on a That beat is entirely too hard for this to fade out right now But you know Melly, the queen of the short song Queen of the interlude song

Brand new Melly, fuckboys, don't cry friends of the show hope to see you soon hey great EP that's the other thing about division he running around saying if I get caught cheating that dope me man the girls is out here like, F-R-E-E, fuck nigga free. I ain't got to worry about. Man, I'm trying to tell you. And I'm S-I-N-G-S. Come on, yo.

Toughen this shit up, yo. Foot on niggas' necks. I'm actually playing R&B, too. Hey, get in your bag. It's not my bag. Get in your bag. Stay in your bag hey get in your bag get in your bag stay in your bag get in your bag

stay Alex come on help me out get in your bag stay in your bag come on let's rock yeah get this shit off ice yo this is

get in your bag stay in your bag oh wait no what's the shit that keep the ice cold a cooler get in your cooler stay in your cooler

hey Alex get in your cooler stay in your cooler just get Getting your cooler, staying your cooler. Hey, Alex. Getting your cooler, staying your cooler. Just getting your cooler, staying your cooler. Now you gonna have these in-ears. Now keep the ice cold.

Getting your cooler. Yo, ice hive out there. Yeah. For new ice. Yeah. Ashley, what else keep ice cold? The fridge.

Oh, a thermos. Thermos, yeah. Just getting your thermos, staying your thermos. Oh, your just sound whack. Can I play my sleeper? Getting your Thermos. Yo, this is off of, I don't even know if this is an album or EP.

I guess an EP. But this is Dead to Me off of Danny Lays, My Side. Oh, and when you cold, you might put on a triple. Just getting your snorkelkel staying your snorkel Did he leave it looking good she's trying to do something You know you did me never catch over what you said me You know you're dead to me My time for toxic energy

No, no No chicks. I like Joe and I don't wanna fight Joe and daddy H. I'll try Is when this song came out. When'd you wrote this? This just came out. But when'd you wrote it though? Wait a second. He should've edited that line out of there.

They fought. I'm pressing play. Go ahead. To me, yeah, yeah You're so dead to me, baby Too many excuses for me sucking the deuces baby you all these hoes thinking i wouldn't know like a fool little baby

got a thinking i'm crazy i might just let you go that's why i can't keep you close no no no no this don't belong to you no more It's over, buried our love is gone I ain't breaking no more dishes, body You ain't gotta call to see about me Already know what I feel about you Cause you so dead, you know you dead to me

Never kept your word with what you said to me You know you said to me You know you dead to me I ain't got no more time for toxic energy No, no Mama never liked your ass Brother wanna fight your ass Daddy hates your tri-thing

I know you wanna bite your ass Cause you dead to me, yeah, yeah You so dead to me, baby I got two brothers She cuddling up with the dog in the video Again that's Dead to Me off of Danny Lay's My Side EP. I like that song a lot. That whole EP is hard. No, I like it a lot. Check it out.

I'm playing some Girl Code again. This is Cold World. See us and be us And need us and feed us Keep us, mislead us They freed us and be us and need us and feed us keep us mislead us they freed us to meet us and be tried to feed us and treat us and greet us mistreat us between us But I need yeezus, huh, runnin' for my demons in Adidas Ain't really glad and ain't really grateful A good woman down, just know I'm gon' break through Kick me as I am, cause I can't get enough And you gotta show your feelings, cause you can't hide from love

They know I go through hell if it's really love Takin' roads, let's travel, facin' demons like I'm OJ with the club Gettin' high with the pretty thug The skin's soft, but it's pretty tough Chop off a witty tongue, silly smug Yeah, you silly love Like you ain't know who the bigger was When they was giving hands, they never gave the bigger one

But they ain't see the bigger one You know I'm the bigger one And everybody know what's gon' happen when the bigger come That mean you better run Cause we never done Seen wars, got me feeling like a veteran I mean a veteran And it's evident Trust issues, so it's hard for me to let them in In this cold world, yeah, this cold world We're the britties who be pushing through this cold world

Go girl, you better go girl If you following the cold girl It's been a hard time, but that's between us Still running from these demons and Adidas And I'm glad, I'm glad I'm glad I held God in my both straight I'm glad that I can swim in case the ship sinks I'm glad cause the gas in the ziplock If they mad cause I'm glad, tell them kick rocks I'm so glad that I'm colored in my melanin drip

I'm so glad that I talk colored in my melanin drip I'm so glad that I talk my shit So just listen to me And I'm glad that I own my shit Treatin' Breedy just like they my bitch I make them listen to me As Cold World by Girl Code Shout out to Booty of the Future and Mike Cousin for producing it Just went to their album release party last night, had a lot of fun

Ish, what you got for us for today? One second please them for producing it. Just went to their album release party last night. Had a lot of fun. Ish, what you got for us for today? One second, please. All right. Yeah, they had a release party in Brooklyn last night. We went and they

didn't have AC. That was the only downside. It was hot as a motherfucker in there. Sweat. Balls. Well Well they had AC But I think they had

All the doors open to You know what I mean Let people in and out Song is called Come First It's Vito OG Parker And Baby T

Alright Shit Oh, shit. It's Vito, baby. I gotta slow it down. I'm finna slip, gripping your hips, tapping out I hate to finish soon, what to do now? All in my head, stroking you now Don't be surprised when I slow down Stop for a minute, let's cool down Too wet, can't go full out, damn Look in your eyes when I go down Just to get ready for the pull out I might not pull out, you showing out?

Girl, I hope I don't come first You deserve your moment I'm willing to do anything you want I'll put in the work Love it when you arch your back, look back, bite your lip and do all that shit Make a mess, you can't catch your breath when you take it I hope I don't come first, you deserve your move And I hope you just come first too Cause boy, I'm about to work you When I play it on you real good Gripping on you real tight

Give me more, can't keep up Might as well go home for the night Cause I'm gone right till the sun on blow And I just hope you don't bust on blow You be trying to stop but I stay on go Take it from the car to the bed to the boat I know how I get You know what I want

Correct your timing Cause baby I hope you don't come first I hope I don't come first You deserve your moment I'm willing to do Anything you want I'll put in the work Love it when you Arch your back, look back, bite your lip and do all that shit Make a mess, you can't catch your breath when you take it in

I hope I don't come first You deserve your moment Yeah I want you I need you But if I leave are you gonna follow? Tell me what you want and I will do What happens after that is up to you

What happens after that is up to you I hope I don't come first You deserve your more I'm willing to do Anything you want I'll put in the work Love it when you Arch your back, look back, bite your lip and do all that shit Make a mess, you can't catch your breath when you take it

Hope I don't come first You deserve the moment right now That is Come First by Vito, OG Parker, and Baby Tate Oh, I'm going to do that. Y'all ain't need that song. It's a race. Oh, I'm coming first. You hear me?

You hear me? Oh, man. You're going to come from the semi-hard. Hey. Semi-hard, get it. Oh, yeah, it'll get it. No, girl said to get it. It'll get it. It'll get it. yeah it'll get it no girl said to get it better than hard

that's it I ain't gonna say oh better than hard I know Chick told me that oh for real or she like little dicks I guess

alright we have to end this thing I don't wanna end it I feel like you get points with the fans when you say yo I just want to keep going. All right, we are out of here. I think on my amp show on Monday, I might play another one of the classics.

It might be a classic type of Monday. We are gone. Keep us in your prayers or don't. Whatever. Hey. Whatever Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm All right, we are gone. I hope y'all enjoyed this part as much as we enjoyed giving it to you. Sing along out there like a family. Hey, that's good enough. That's good enough for me. We niggas.

Let me hear audience. Hey, a little crowd participation. I know y'all was there. I ain't got to hear you. I know you was there. Keep us in your prayers. Lord know y'all was there. I ain't got to hear you. I know you was there. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, baby, baby.

Let's sing the pre-hook together and we're going to get out of here. Adios, arrivederci, peace. Hasta la vista, au revoir, So long, Goodbye And all that good shit, life is a series of moments like this one, let's go My heart is yearning for your love Alright, I gotta lead the choir, come on, I got y'all out there, here we go My heart is yeararning for your love You, girl

Alright Same time, same place Next week Y'all know the vibes Do remember the baddies The insecure, the stagnant Women wanna travel And the closed-minded girls

Want you to teach them things. Hey! Grab an ibuprofen, you might need it. What y'all doing tonight? Anything fun, anything fun, anything fun and exciting? Fun and exciting? For the state. Tonight? Yeah.

Okay. Nope, nothing. Drive carefully. Fun and exciting? Go upstate. Tonight? Yeah. Okay. Nope, nothing. Drive carefully. Yeah. Pick my baby up in the morning. All right. Dad time, dad time. Yep.

I ain't doing shit. My heart is yearning for your love. For your love My heart is yearning for your love My heart is yearning for you Let me inside your love Oh my heart Is yearning for ya

Let me inside your love Let's get it! Y'all will fuck up a classic, won't you? Yo, we gone, man. Everybody enjoy their weekend. We got real good weather in New York. Enjoy your pool day, your great adventure day. Day drinking, whatever you into, yo.

Have a blast. Head on a swivel. Please be safe. Shootings are still up. Crime is still in effect. Don't feel comfortable out here. He's over. He's up and out of my life. I hate that I had to do that.

I hate that I had to do that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no