The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 559 | "Investing In The Downfall"

Episode Date: August 20, 2022

Joe addresses Swizz Beatz and Timbaland suing Triller for 25 million dollars over the Verzuz dispute (20:30). The crew then addresses Jermaine Dupri vs. Diddy (38:15) in a Verzuz. Also, it acknowledges the moguls' recent comments claiming R&B is dead (45:40). Next, they discuss writing birthday captions for your significant other (1:22:50), and Joey Bada$$ joins the pod (1:35:10). Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP.: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks Joe | Tank - “See Through Love” (Ft. Chris Brown) Ice | P-Valley & Lil Murda - “Seven Pounds of Pressure” Parks | David Bars, Passport Gift & Parks - “Hallelujah” Ish | Mikhala Jené - “Human Nature”

He took a short. He took a short. You think? You're fucking right. He took a short. 1,000% he took a short. Yeah. Talk about it, then.

Why do you think he didn't? We can talk about it. Oh, you want to talk now? Yo, you. Yo, you see Ish be trying to take instruction well since our little critique pod. That's what's wrong. He's been coming in smoking shit. Meg reviews.

Save this topic for later. Who the hell is he? Hey man We trying to get to the next level man Yo I hate when y'all do this Don't try to be my friend After y'all went to the mixer I ain't go

Don't try to Don't try to be my friend now After y'all went to the mixer I stayed home in the name of games Y'all thought I forgot I hold on to the beef Y'all thought I forgot I hold on to the beef. Y'all thought I forgot I hold on to the beef.

Oh, you got beef with... The whole mixer. Got the nerve to fucking post a little Instagram clip. I tried to take it off the phone. I don't know why they had a dislike button. And they stole your shit? Huh? Oh, never mind. Hey, Alex, I don't want no songs.

What'd they stole? However they want it. That's what they walked in on. Oh, man. Oh, man, it's cool. Right in front of your face, and you ain't snuffed nobody. You ain't snuffed nobody. Parks was there with his wife.

You ain't snuffed nobody. I didn't snuff nobody. Exactly. Erickson was there. You ain't snuffed nobody. Parks was there with his wife. You ain't snuffed nobody. Exactly. Erickson was there. You ain't snuffed nobody. Right? Rob, you was there, but you halfway game, but you still should have pushed somebody. You should have pushed somebody. There was a lot of niggas in there moving comfortably around y'all.

Rob was in there acapellaing. I'm bound to take a look around. I hope we record. I hope we record. We're recording. Oh, man. We are? Yeah, of course we are. Oh, man.

This nigga's. I had to get that beautiful singing tone. What year Jay-Z came out with Blueprint? 2001. That was 01. September 11th.

Yep. That was important, what he was trying to say to everybody. So I can't, it was such a genius idea. I can't say I'm the blueprint. But I'm certainly the footprint.

These niggas don't mop them floors well. Even when I'm not there, I see my footprints everywhere. Hello? Get quiet when I start talking, huh? Wake it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't get to shine on the floors too well. You can see my prints everywhere.

Oh, all right. Now, God damn it. Mixer boys. Y''t get to shine on the floors too well. You can see my prints everywhere. Oh, all right. Now, God damn it. Oh, man. Mixer boys. Y'all got to talk for a second. Nah, I went home and tried to forget about it. Fuck y'all niggas. Still waiting.

No, it wasn't. Still woke up the next morning like, you know what? Trying to sleep it off. Yeah, content kept coming from it. It was like, wait. Oh, you was? Oh, it was an op party. It was an op party. Damn, y'all niggas had an opy out there. Yeah, yeah, wait. Oh, you was on the op party. It was an op party.

Damn, y'all niggas had an op-y out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all heard of Spotify. Y'all probably didn't hear Opify. Damn, Alex. Opify Records in there. Nah, nah. How you do that, Alex?

Fish in there dancing around. I'm the op? No. I wasn't there. But why you so comfortable around him? I wasn't on the op. Why you so comfortable around the ops? There wasn't no ops there. Joe is energy up today. There wasn't no ops, though. Huh? There wasn't there But why you so comfortable Around him I wasn't Why you so comfortable Around the ops There wasn't no ops there

Joe is energy up today There wasn't no ops though Huh There wasn't no ops Oh so So they not ops I didn't see one person In there

I was like I don't feel I'm just I'm just instigating you You killed him I don't really care I killed Nah

Y'all got to talk Anyway bro Go ahead Go ahead I had a song I forgot what it was I finally did it. What you did?

Got the PS5, man. Hey, there we go. Shouts out to my man Cordell, man. He put me on, man. Cordell. Yeah, man. He helped me out, man. You got two controllers?

No, I got to get the second controller. What the fuck? I was about to say that new Madden is out. That's why I got it. The smoke is available. That's why I wanted it. Yeah? I'm ready.

The smoke is available. I got to learn how to play first for a minute. I need like a week. Me too. Me too, yo. I was a video game connoisseur. I got to learn how to play first for a minute. I need like a week. Me too. Me too, yo. Ish. I was a video game connoisseur. You got a PS5?

Not connoisseur. You got a PS5? What system you got? PS5. That's hooked up. I don't know what that is. You got a PS5? Yeah, you got it.

I know it. That ain't going to work on me, y'all. Smoke available. I had to buy it with a little stupid game that I probably never played. Oh, you had to get the bundle Yeah What you get What's it called

Horizon or some shit like that Oh nah Horizon West That's not bad That's not a bad game Yeah It's a cool little story You beat it

Nah I don't beat none of these games I play them Damn There's no When God of War come out Then I'm beating the game God of War

Yes That's the nigga That they giving back to Russia? No. All right. Pardon me. All right. Go get that game.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's what I thought. What's up? What's up over there? Let me give you some wires. Make sure. My wire is good. It's me.

Oh, it's me. I've been doing this shit Since 2002, 2003 It's not him? I've been doing this Professional Yeah Turn up a knob

Or something back there Act like we here today Which I'm surprised We here today I'm dressed for vacation I was gonna Overdo it With the white shades

I did not Cause I heard Y'all's voices in my head. Yeah. I'm glad you didn't do it. That's like a yachting boat hat. I'm sorry. You know what I mean? Fishing, golf, something.

I don't know what that is. Yeah, golf, golf, golf, golf, golf. That's a little Saint Tropez-ish. I'm just saying. Monaco. I've never been. Me either. Yeah. All right, all. Me either. All right.

All right. You know what? Say less. I understand. I understand. I like when he let us know what he going to be on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Word.

You see, he showed his ass last week. Yeah, he can take it. You showed your ass last week on this podcast. Play a song. Now you instructing me. I don't take instructions from the mixer boys. Anybody that was at that mixer? Nah.

Yo, you showed your ass last week. We agree. You disagree. Like, we all agree. You made us look like shit. You did. I did. But it's cool.

Nah, you went off. You went off last week. You went off, son. That nigga heard I'm her. That shit really touched you. And broke it down for us Nah he did He did Honestly

Don't Yeah You my man You chopping into the bullshit Yeah you heard him It's Joe Fish time Sorry He in the car

Man You're gonna get two in a row Nigga we gonna jump you now You know a nigga come down hot What Shaq say One of them niggas get hot What he gonna do Lay their ass out Alright Shaq is wrong come down hot. What Shaq say? When them niggas get hot, what are you going to do?

Lay their ass out. All right. Shaq is wrong. Shaq ain't wrong. Shaq is wrong. Shaq is wrong. Shaq was wrong. Even if he was, he wrong.

Shaq was wrong. You know why he wrong? Because they can beat your ass from way 40 feet away. That's that old Charles Barkley thing. Jump shot. Niggas ain't got to come down there. I'm going to 40-foot jump shot you to death now, Shaquille O'Neal. Yeah. Stop it.

Stop it. You saying no? Stop it, yo. Where he going? Fam, the game ain't down in the paint no more. Wait, who would have been on clay? Rick Fox? I'm down, I'm down.

Give me the Warriors for everything. Give me the Warriors for everything. You bugger. Rick Fox is on clay Thompson, the nigga that scored 61 points in three quarters. That can't put the ball on the floor to save his fucking life. And didn't seem to need to. Don't have to, my man. That's our point.

They move without the ball. That's our point. They catch and shoot. You know basketball goes two ways, right? You better leave Klay Thompson. Klay Thompson. I love Klay. Klay Thompson plays defense.

What are you talking about? I know. Who's going to de-shat? Oh, my God. Draymond Brown? Fuck is you talking about? Brown. The foul line.

He didn't even say his name. Yeah, talk about it. Y'all can talk about jumpers from 50 feet. Talk about niggas getting their face dunked on. The foul line. Okay, go dunk. On who? Whoever you want to dunk.

I have a blast. Well, I'm just going to keep dunking. Go ahead. And we're going to keep threes as more than twos. I know. Like, you know math, right? Yeah, I do. You keep dunking.

I'll keep shooting these threes. No, no, no, no. And it should tally up right at the end. All of us are going to keep shooting these threes. Yeah than twos. I know. Like, you know math, right? Yeah, I do. You keep dunking. I'll keep shooting these threes. No, no, no, no, no. And it should tally up right at the end. All of us going to keep shooting these threes. Yeah, our whole team. And we got Jordan Poole. Wait, who else y'all niggas got? Kobe.

Who else? You know who I'm talking about. Rest in peace. Bean. Rest in peace. Who else? Bean. No, please.

You only need them two. Oh, please. Yo, you out your fucking mind. Stop it, yo. Yo, let me ask you this. On math, what's an easier percentage shot? The dunk or the 40-footer? Who's shooting it?

Who's shooting it? Steph. Who's shooting it? Steph and Shaq. Oh, Steph. It's not making them more than Shaq dunking them. Steph. You're out your fucking mind.

No, I'm telling you for a fact. There's a stat. Now you don't want stats. I'm listening. The two highest percentage shooters ever that had to take more than 2,000 shots was Shaq at like 59% and Steph at 58%. It was only them two. All right.

I hear you. I don't know if Steph's shooting 58% for a career. No, the year. It was the year. It was one year. It was for one year. It was one season. I got to one year. It was one season. I gotta see it.

And that was that MVP season. You remember when he didn't miss no threes? You remember the season? It was like, oh shit. We've never seen nothing like this. It was very few that he missed that one MVP season.

He shot 40% from three. Nah, go look up there. He shot 90% from the line. And we ain't started. I hear the pussy drying up now. I'm on vacation. Listen, I don't know why I'm at work. Mentally, I'm on vacation

like the taxi driver dude from the movie that put the picture up in the rear view. I forgot the movie, but I mention it all the time. When he said, I just look at this picture

when I want to go somewhere. That's my vacay. I work here for 50 years whatever yeah I'm somewhere else huh yo man it's tough to get them because these niggas are so corny they come in and take all the fucking and they've been on so yo I can't get the little things with the the thing between the big toe and I want those what are they called those are the ones those with the thing between the big toe and... I want those. What are they called? Those are the ones. That's a thong, man. Those are the ones. You told my man parts.

That's not what they called. I'm not really on vacation without those. Yeah, something like that. The ones. We're not calling them... They're not thong. I need those. I need those.

How many pair of shades you bought for vacation? And I got to figure out how I'm packing the shades. I got to serve these niggas looks, so I got to put shades in there. Listen. You know how nigga rich, when they just want the thong sandal instead of just the broad one. You probably get some Birkenstocks. I got mad sandals. Oh, the Dior Birkenstocks.

No, he... See? See? He said Birkenstock. Right. So did I. No, you said a word before that. The Dior Birkenstocks. Look him up. He said Dior, Joe. We're going to look him up. He said Birkenstock Right So did I No you said A word before that The Dior Birkenstock

We gonna look him up He said Dior Joe We gonna look him up He said regular White Birkenstocks Yeah man They can do a little Hey

It's his prerogative It's an I don't force my You know what I mean Everyone be themselves To each their own I want the Dior ones There you go

Right there Them two black Right in the middle Bang bang Bang bang Oh both of them I'm serving these niggas I'm not playing with these niggas On vacation I want the Dior ones. There you go. Right there. Them two black. Right in the middle. Bang, bang. Bang, bang. Oh, both of them. I'm serving these niggas.

I'm not playing with these niggas on vacation. I don't want y'all to get confused because niggas is out. Niggas is moving. I got to create the... Come on. Stop playing with me. The separation. I got to create the separation. It's rooms and then it's rooms.

I have to create the separation. It's rooms. And sometimes you can't hear the song until it's done. I got to go The separation And sometimes You can't hear the song Until it's done I gotta go make the song I gotta go man Don't worry I'ma paint a picture

Head ass I'm matching with her Four days in a row Four days I'm color coordinated Oh you got pink Watch this Watch this

White and pink Dior silk set Salmon I'm not playing with you niggas You gon' wear salmon Yeah no Not pink nigga This salmon I'm out I'm not playing with you niggas. You're going to wear salmon. Yeah, no. Not pink, nigga. It's salmon.

I'm out. I'm out. Where y'all going? Your nightstand going to be a little far from the bed. Oh, yeah. We're going on vacation. Yeah. This whole pod is off from when I leave.

I leave like the 12th. Next Friday is the last time. Wrap this shit up. I am so for real like them niggas I can't wait for the conspiracy theories oh yeah

they coming oh yeah give me one come on give me give me one it's just contract it gotta be me it's just contract

for sure it has to be me that's the only one Ice wants to own it Ice wants yeah yeah yeah the man said I wanna own it we're not getting along

behind the scenes. You want to own the pod? I want ownership. Who said that? The same one? Edit it out. Yeah, thank you. We're not even doing that.

But anyway, yeah, we're not getting along behind the scenes. Yeah, I see it. Yeah. Next Friday is the last one for a minute. I'm not done announcing this

It's gonna be It's gonna be A little while A second At least two weeks About that At least two weeks I'm telling you

About that You the man bro Niggas work hard Nah that's facts We go hard And I have never had You the man, bro. Niggas work hard, nigga. Nah, that's facts. We go hard. And I have never had this style vacation where it's really no work now. Long flight.

Staying long. Nine, ten days. Long flight back to Chicago. I call Amp. Amp. Check it out. You need that PTO? Nah. No, no. I got days off over there. check it out you need that PTO nah no no I got

I got I got I got days off over there but it's a number of them and when you back to when you back to back them that's Monday Monday it's like damn

but you got the DJ but those my guys over there you got the DJ you might got you gonna get 1am or something stupid ain't nobody trying to

no I'm going no no I'm not working I'm going. No. No. I'm not working. I'm not working. I feel you. No, I should.

I anxiously await my return. So, yeah, we're going for two weeks from next whatever. Whatever. You'll know. Yeah. When you open up that podcast app and you don't see us. You'll know when it's not there. Now, I don't think that applies to the Patronis. At some point, we'll find a way to get to it.

Oh, no, we're going to cook for y'all. Yeah. Yeah, we'll find something to do. We're going to cook. You're so stupid, yo. With that said, am I up over here? Yes, sir. Man, turn me up louder, man, so these niggas know what time it is when Joe come in here.

Now, I need my headphones up. Louder than that. Turn me up. High energy. Now I need my headphones up. I let my watch talk for me. My whip talk for me. My dick talk for me. What up, homie? My watch saying hi. Shorty, we could be friends. My whip saying quit playing, bitch. Get in.

My earring saying we can hit them all together. Shorty, it's only right that we ball together. I'm in the bigger things. Y'all niggas, y'all know my style. Your wrist bling, bling my shit. Bling, bling, bling. Bigger things, y'all niggas, y'all know my style If it's bling, bling, my shit bling Bling, bling, my shit bling

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Bling, bling, my shit bling Bling, bling, my shit bling Bling, bling, my shit bling Bling, bling, my shit bling Bling, bling, my shit bling Bling, bling, my shit bling Bling, bling, my shit bling Bling, bling, my shit bling Bling, bling, my shit bling Bling, bling, my shit bling Bling, bling, my shit bling Feelin' real New Yorkish this weekend And it's hot out, 90-something degrees Shout to the first and last time listeners, you know we give it up

I took all the water, soda, and bottles for two bucks And Coca-Cola came and bought it for billions What the fuck? Have a baby by me, baby Be a millionaire, I write the check before the baby comes Who the hell cares? I'm stanky rich I'ma die tryna spend this shit Southside's up in this bitch Yeah, I smell like cares? I'm stanky rich, I'ma die tryna spin this shit Southside's up in this bitch

Yeah, I smell like the Vogue, I used to sell dough I did play the block, now I play on boats In the south of France, baby Say if you're paid, get a tan, I'm already black Rich, I'm already that Gangsters get a gag, hit a head in a hat Call that a little rap, she fucks the shit I chant the big car, bake the bread, a bar bar

Shout out to the ladies out there When I spread a little blood, she fucks shit, trying to fake up, fake the bread, a ball box, put the lady in a box, can I spread a little, fuck, can I talk a little? I did not fuck with the kid, I get pissed with the cig, I can really lick, you dig? I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I'm with you, I'm with you, I'm with you, I'm with you I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money, I get money I'm with you, I'm with you, I'm with you, I'm with you Yeah Ha ha, shout out to Queens Yeah If I can't do it, homie, it can't be done Alright, who's ready to pod?

Ready Let's go Good I'm ready to pod too I'm on a little hot streak out here Shout out to all you niggas doin' this, but uh, it's different Been different for a little while Ayy

And it go up around like I got an S on my chest Now that's a semi-auto In the vest on my chest I try not to say nothin' The D8, my boy, I'm playin' court Put a hundred duck niggas down like it's a sport Front on me, I'll cut your gun, butt your butt Do you get money? I can't get no money, shit I'm not the type to get knocked for D, D, D, I'm the type to kill your neck when the coke price rise

Gangsters, they bump my shit, them, they know me I'm the one and rapson Niggas, it's not my homies Honey, G's a stash It's what the Mac got blasted It's the old diesel Battery acid This flow's been mad Ice, I flashed It tooks me I had your mama pickin' out Chickaski, bastard I'm on the next level Bright link, forget bezel

Benz pedal to the metal I don't energy, kettle blood What, what up, Cod? What, right link, forget bezel Benz pedal to the metal, hotter than the T-Cat Oh God, what, what up, God? What, what up, God? What, what up, gangsta? Microphone check, one, two, what is this? New Joe Buds More applause, goddammit

I'm not a daddy What's that? More applause, goddammit What episode is this? 559 Welcome to episode 559 of the Joe Budden Podcast I'm your humble, gracious, not humbled And fuck it, I'll listen to y'all I'm not humble Humble for what, nigga? Fuck y'all There you go I'm joking No, only you No, no, no, you're humble, gracious, not humble, then fuck it. I'll listen to y'all. I'm not humble. Humble for what, nigga? Fuck y'all. There you go. I'm joking.

No, I'm not owning that. I'm not owning that. Humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored, lowly favored. I'm here. I'm here to lane. It's me, Joe Button. Hi, Parks is here, Ish is here, Ice is here, E is here, Corey is here, young boys in the...

Nigga. I got itga I got it I got it Still up Something's going on Back there nigga This nigga's so stupid I'll walk down that hall

Alright man What's going on How y'all doing How y'all doing How y'all feeling Good man Feeling good Feeling good

Looking forward to vacation man Absolutely You out of here I haven't decided yet I'll probably do something light Maybe a little The problem is Good, man. Feeling good. Feeling good. Looking forward to vacation, man. Absolutely. You out of here? I haven't decided yet. I'll probably do something light. Maybe a little. The problem is all the places we wanted to go is in the Caribbean kind of area.

And this is hurricane season, man. It's a little shaky. Found that out. A little shaky. Is she really good? I better get your ass on that plane. You going regardless? You hear these beginners?

I got trapped in a hurricane last summer, so I know what that's like. I don't want to do that again. Man, listen. I feel you, though. I got some recs. And had I not... I got some recommendations for you, fam.

Yeah, shoot me some recs, man. It's hurricane season. Yeah, yeah. Look how fast y'all turning it up. That's how my mentality used to be until I got stuck in a hurricane. Farmer's almanac on him. You say what?

Aren't you the farmermer's Almanac? Look at you. You get caught on one, your whole shit'll change. You'll be like, you know what, actually I could go somewhere else maybe this time. No, I'm out of here. Maybe I'll go hit some Canada. Sayonara. Go Montreal for a vacation. What y'all doing for y'all vacations?

Oh yeah. And. Why are you looking? I was just waiting to see what. It's an island? No, I'm just joking. oh yeah and why you looking yeah you ain't gonna say no names I was just waiting to see what it's an island no I'm just if you was gonna respond to

the host asked a question I said and me and the host understood oh were you not privy to your understanding nah I hate when Ishan Parks is on the same

in the same backcourt I mean we always backcourt yeah I don't like that you see him? Yeah, you think so? We got to give these niggas the door. Nah, nah.

Come on, we can get right to it if y'all want. Shoot. All right, the versus versus. The versus versus, damn. Versus versus. Versus versus versus. All right.

I mean, this is a damn shit. I mean, this is in line with something that we have not told the audience what happened yet. Look at you, ready to get your bars off. No, no, no. That's not what I was about to say. No, not at all.

All the naysayers coming out. Swiss and Tim are suing Triller. That's Swiss Beats and Timbaland. Timbaland. Legends. Yes. Indeed. Creators of Versus. beats and Timbaland Timbaland legends yes indeed creators of versus are suing Triller seeking 28

million dollars for versus rap battle deal that's a couple dollars a little bit Triller now says it's paid them over 50 mil to date and claims that they've not met their earn out payment threshold I don't know what an earn out payment threshold is.

Would you enlighten us? What? The earn out payment threshold? Yeah. That means that you will be paid maybe, let's say, quarterly and you have deliverables. Oh. So we will give you X amount at the start. Oh, shit.

I mean, it was back. X amount at the start. And the next time you'll get this. So we're stalling payments. Gotcha. Based on what you deliver, though. Whatever that is. So you should deliver a certain amount of events.

That's where it gets fuzzy. I'm saying whatever your agreed upon terms are. Yes, but that is where it begins to get fuzzy. Gotcha. Well, it's saying here, according to the lawsuit, after Triller failed to make a large payment to Swiss and Timberland in January, the company agreed to a settlement requiring Triller to pay them $18 million, which is $9 million each by March 20th, with $1 million per month for the following 10 months. And Triller has not made

any of those payments. This is what their lawsuit alleges. Which, I was getting ready to say, goes in line with a report that came out a couple weeks ago. I believe it was the Washington Post.

I could be wrong. I don't want to get the wrong paper. But the report was that Triller hasn't been paying the creatives. Oh yeah, we talked about that briefly on Patreon maybe. So hasn't been paying the creatives. Oh yeah. You talked,

we talked about that briefly on Patreon maybe. So it wasn't paying the artists either. The people that like they, they had, they did some type of initiative for, for black creators. And there were people that had signed on with Triller saying, you know,

if we'll put certain amount of content out and we'll get paid X amount of money. And Triller has not paid anyone. And there were people are people like yo i'm facing eviction i've been doing this i'm still meeting obligations because you know this is my contract that we signed this deal i'm sending my invoices in and i'm not getting paid so it seemed like something ain't working over there i don't know if it's when they tried to, this is just speculation, if when they tried to go to subscription base, niggas wasn't signing up like that. Probably so.

Probably so. Or they tried to mix it with the boxing and it just ain't work. I don't know. But it seems like the money is running kind of low. At Triller. At Triller. Probably. Probably the case.

I don't see how they make money. No, they have endorsements at all the things. They're usually sponsored by somebody. They have the shit written all over the fucking set. They usually have bottles

or whatever the shit may be. And if you're an endorsee, we're going to rock the first time. Let's say you Pepsi. Yeah. I'm going to give y'all XYZ. And then they don't pop. I'm not giving y'all no more bread.

You get what I'm saying? We just throwing numbers out. I want some Parks sneakers. And I think that your sneakers are going to sell a certain amount of sneakers in first quarter. If they don't pop, I'm not putting no more money behind your shit. Yeah.

That's outside of my wheelhouse I'm just guessing however I think the way that that usually works and you can correct me if I'm wrong it kind of don't matter how the shit performs

it's I'm putting you in front of X amount of people this is what the rate is for that amount of people sure like a commercial like Superbowl

yeah the Superbowl is projected to be 100 million viewers I don't think they come back to the NFL if their fucking quarterly isn't a jump right there and say yo actually we're not gonna pay you no more or not or next year i'm not giving you that because you only have 50 million viewers and we projected 100

million last year and i and i put commercial spots based on those projected numbers y'all didn't meet them so now i'm not gonna give y'all the same amount of money next year yeah or just yo we thought by spending this amount of money with you it would bring us back a certain amount and even if even if y'all had 100 million viewers it didn't turn into product it didn't turn into sales for us so we could send spend that money elsewhere maybe it could be anything but it just seems like the money is slowing up over there at Triller. And they're not paying anyone. That's a damn shame. What you think? It's all so complicated.

It really is. It is. It's big money, so. I know no facts. None of us do, by the way. We're speculating here. I'm speculating. And this will sound vague, but they either made a whole lot of money or they didn't make any money.

Triller? Yeah. Either Triller is doing really, really, really well. Or really, really bad. Or they're doing really, really, really, really bad. I would assume the latter. Yeah, I think it's the other one. I would assume the last yeah I think it's the other one I would assume

now I don't know because that gets into the numbers of things I haven't been following how the boxing shit has been doing I know it's all looked

out of order that's when Ice came in here and said hey there was a few of these versus battles that were blinked out promised to us that we never received. That's a fact.

Yeah, you did say that. It's also weird because for the most part, I know there was a couple that weren't, but for the most part they've also been live on Instagram and YouTube. So I don't know how all that shit gets broken down financially. Gets broken down or what the benchmarks are and shit. But I would assume a lot of people are watching it not on Twitter.

That was Cypress Hill and Onyx Beef. Because it was like yo, you didn't put ours wide like you do everybody else's. You put it behind the paywall and it ain't a lot of people over here. And I even said it then. I said, yo, I believe that that might have been a test. Just to see

exactly how many people we got only paying aistradamus man but they can't do that with cypress hill and onyx you know i'm saying like no disrespect to them but you gotta have a usher chris brown you gotta have some big name shit and then you can say yo the subscription only you can't force a nigga to go watch well remember i came in here and said that they offered me a blink check and with that information now you know what a blink check means blank maybe maybe we'll maybe we'll get to it maybe we won't we don't we don't play no pain all right yeah and you can write you can write down whatever number you want. What do you want? How much? You got it.

Sue me. You got it. Standing line. Yeah. Especially if the payments are installed. Yeah. That's one. Two, the owners of Driller or the co-owners or whatever, I read this shit, but the two guys, they've been around the block and have their own reputation.

I'm certain that both sides did their due diligence to add language in the contract for both sides that would give each party an out whenever they wanted one. That's the other side to why these big deals don't really mean shit. Because what's the language that gets us out of this ASAP? I don't know who has the better of the side. But if I'm assuming Triller is broke, I put that side to Timbaland and Swiss. I do. I do. If Triller's broke, I give it to them. If Triller is not broke and is going to make them jump through hoops and hurdles and drag this out and make it a long, drawn-out thing before they eventually settle, which is what will happen at some point, well, then it could get ugly.

And it probably will get a little bit ugly. Probably so. And I wonder if it's going to keep- Because this is already ugly, the fact that it's public. Read that last part. Because Triller is- Well, let me finish. This one?

Yeah, the last one. In December, Triller announced plans to become a publicly traded company that's exactly what i was about to get into through a reverse merger with sea change international a provider of video streaming and ad technologies the companies had claimed the value of the new entity to be called triller versus corp would be approximately five billion dollars however in june 2022 sea change and triller mutually agreed to terminate the merger Corp would be approximately $5 billion. However, in June, 2022, C change and Triller mutually agreed to terminate the merger agreement per a regulatory filing. That's what I was about to get into.

It's already ugly because Triller would be trying to go public. Somebody would be trying to go public. And the worst possible thing when you're trying to go public is a headline business. Yeah. And a headline of, of, and about bad business to scare away other people. So this is already a nightmare. So it's going to get uglier, and they will eventually settle.

But I also imagine that the labels had something to do with this. What you mean? Because you're taking our shit. That's our shit. That's our shit and making that's our music off of our music when y'all signed this deal and this is again guessing here that's why it went from song battle to live performance where you have to alter the record or the performance but i don't know if y'all altered it enough to make a label say this hey that's our shit. And that's part of what Trilla was saying,

which is, hey, y'all have obligations to record labels that were unbeknownst to us when we did this deal. So we have come out of pocket X amount of dollars to other people. And look, we don't have it to give you. Last year, Universal took its music catalog from triller yeah and then you know they they worked out a new deal and put it back on

but yeah now we got no no we gotta fix this oh this is what's going on over here no we gotta fix it we're gonna take our music off now you can't have nobody that got anything on the Universal perform and stream it on your service. A lot of the guys, they just thought it was going to be worth. See, and you could do that. You could have that conversation if you're Versus with Apple.

Because now it's Versus and Apple. What y'all trying to say, record labels? Let's talk. This ain't that. This is Triller. I didn't mean to say record labels let's talk right this ain't that this is triller right i didn't mean to say it like that no but i mean it's level but the point is the point levels levels the mute is only is a short list of people the music business feel like they got to bow down to or will realize after long long uh litigation that you have to bow down we already have a uh

and that's youtube, Apple, Amazon. A fairly blanket licensing situation set up, so it's not really no big deal for you to do this over here. Like, it's already kind of covered in the agreements that we already have. And it's going to help generate more money right through your shit.

If it was on Apple, you could put the link right there to buy it, you know what I'm saying? But if one of y'all wanted to have a problem... It's still for y'all that we're going to have to tap out to. Yeah. Your Triller is not... is not that. No. I agree with that. of y'all wanted to have a problem. It's still for y'all that we're going to have to tap out to.

Triller is not that. No, I agree with that. Shout out to both Swizz and Timbaland. Ice and I were talking on the way here. I do not think this is the end of Versus. Do you think they'll just start renegading it?

They're out. Yeah, they're out. They're off to the next one. They left Apple, had to find out what they was going to do. They announced it. Yo, we're doing Triller. Here's a SPAC. Break some of this down. Give out 2% of how much equity they gave out to the creators.

Make it look good. I like how it looked. Yeah. It looked great. I got a little bit. Awesome. But now, where are you going next? Their mission is still the same.

Unless they fund it themselves and it don't seem like that's what they're trying to do you mean swiss and swiss and timberland is their shit i don't think it's still their shit that was my thing didn't they did they sell it's their shit if there are outs in both sides that protect both sides i'm in my theory i have swiss and timberland winning and and ending with uh ownership of their of their IP okay and their money do you still think

it holds the same value though it does yes I think it holds more value it does it does especially if it goes to a more convenient platform

versus it's still versus it's still it's still Swiss and Tim it's still their relationships that put this on. It's still their savvy. Like, they do this.

They're just looking for it. They're just talking to distributors. Apple was an amazing distributor. Thank you so much. It didn't work out here. We got a big bag from Triller. Oh, y'all don't have my bag? Give me my shit back.

All right, who's next? Who next? YouTube, what's up? Y'all see what we did? Revolt, what's up? Y'all see what we did? You can go. Netflix.

HBO. It's their shit when it's yours and that's the importance of ownership i'll spare you my important ownership rant because you niggas just go sign slave deals anyway uh yeah that's what they're doing i think i think that's how i think end. I think it has a value. I don't think it has the same value because I think what Triller is running into is a challenge in monetizing it. Yo, I had the best show on Complex and they told me they couldn't sell it. You know whose problem that is? Complex. You got to get with your ad. Who sells ads here? Let me go speak to them.

I can't speak for who Trilla's ad team is, but that is what would be said. You know what's the hard thing with that, though? With Trilla, with Complex, it was you and Ak and Nadeska, right? So we know what we're getting. With Trilla and marketing that, you never know who the artist's going to be.

So if I'm paying you some money, I'm going to pay you money again for Usher Chris Brown. I'm not going to give you the same monetary amount for I don't want to disrespect nobody but other acts. If you have the numbers that they have

and can show and can show how they did it that's out the window. But no, it's going like this though. But still. It's not. Which is why they made up that flyer

not made up but presented that flyer with the names blurred out. Because at the deal, I'm assuming, hey, what are we getting? You're getting this. Nine battles.

You don't have to know who's there. We're responsible to bring in this amount of numbers back. And even if it's the average, yo, this is the average of what we do. Yeah.

That's still numbers. I agree with you. What I'm saying is... And it still falls, I want you to make your point, but that ad agency for Triller is important if the ad agency at complex can't deliver well hey spotify didn't have that problem i just think it's variables no i agree with you with with regards to your your complex talk i'm just saying with trilla i just think it's harder because i think it's

variables like what are we gonna pay the the artists? What if Amazon get versus? They have enough money to pay the artists whatever dollar amount they want. And they have a different ideology when it comes to ads. Right. We own half of America. True. Right. We are the ad.

We add. We're not calling people. That's right. They're calling us. That makes sense. It just depends on who you are partnering with that's true and at the end of this i think they'll find a new home hopefully it's too proven yeah yeah it's still value it's too proven it's too proven they're gonna check for it and i even

post pandemic it evolved yeah you know it went from it went from just instagram you on your phone me on my phone to to full out concerts. You're selling audience and they're proving that they can get audience. They've even got it live to the point where, again, I brought up Apple. All right, so now I'm going to partner with, what's the niggas that do a lot? Live Nation. It's just so many different things. Rolling Loud, you see them jumping

trying to make moves like this could go any way yeah this is the beginning of the road for Swiss and Tim with this property yeah really and we see what it's worth because that number

says 28 million dollars right no 28 that they owed yeah but they got they got no I think they got no they got 50 oh great

Trilla said they gave them 50 already yeah but all of that is we can, we don't know any of that. It's both sides. It's both sides arguing about money. But either way, the numbers they're throwing around tell you the value. It ain't chump. That's true.

It's far from chump, actually. I'm not getting 50 million in my last deal and then running down to 10 and 15 in the next one. That ain't how this one goes. Not to pocket watch, but that's where we are. Yeah, we are. Yeah, I'm not going from... I stopped watching Swiss House

when he was... I mean, Swiss Pockets when he was roller skating around the big fucking puppets in his living room and when I found out he lived in Iron Man's house. In Iron Man's house.

Hey, at some point, your pocket watching days have to end with some of these people they are out of here you can't keep up with it what hoves say that house is on my wall this little pretty art picture right here and now that i'm looking into black art boy it's expensive that's just so expensive i won't put some of that shit out outside and outside of the house let niggas know what's up.

Nah, for real. Black artists going crazy out here getting money. There's so many ways to get money out here. All right, I'll leave this show again. Come on, we out of here. Well, off of Versus, Diddy and Jermaine Dupri said they're going to face off in a hit versus hit. So it's not a Versus.

It's a Versus-less Versus. Yeah. No, it's a Trillaless versus yeah no it's a trilla-less versus versus-less versus yeah versus it ain't branded it ain't branded

no matter what it's a Swiss and Tim-less versus too it'll be branded though oh no I'll believe that it's gonna have a brand and there's gonna be

some spanky behind it if Puff and JD gonna put they name on it somebody gonna pay no question yo what's your fucking mind I'm glad to finally see it though I mean they've been

talking about this you know for I feel like years now come on JD mind you're going to pay. No question. You're out your fucking mind. I'm glad to finally see it though. They've been talking about this for I feel like years now. Come on, JD. Come on, JD, what? This nigga about to walk. He going to walk the plank? Excuse me?

You said he going to walk the plank? He going to get kicked off the plank. JD is JD. It's in Atlanta though I wouldn't care if it was in Augusta JD is JD though JD is JD JD is a man No question

They'll be clear I ain't done enough To be able to say a bad word About Jermaine Dupri He's on that list for me No he is definitely on that list JD gonna talk so much shit It's gonna be

You gotta be at a certain level To kick that nigga back in You ain't kicking I'm not I ain't That nigga is Top 10 All time

Don't make a man And pull out his Little Mariah shit Right Don't make him go His Mariah run No don't make him mad And start yelling

Nigga you ain't produced that You ain't do Like That The asshole will come out Yeah That's what I'm talking about Yes I did

Nigga I told him Put that cymbal right there You Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Yes, I did. Nigga, I told him to put that cymbal right there. Ting, ting, ting. You hear that? That's me. I ain't produce it. I just jumped in the booth. I'm on most of these songs. That's right.

I'm Adler. Ha, ha, ha, ha. What you want? Yeah, yeah. That's my voice right there. As we broke. Yeah. That's me.

I don't care who did this beat. I'm in the booth on this smoker. Chucky or one of them niggas did it. But I said, take that. Take that. You gonna take that? All I said, beat I'm in the booth On this smoker Chucky or one of them niggas Did it But I said take that Take that You gonna take that All I said

Let me go in the booth Hey Give me ten minutes Let me find a nigga That's gonna write this And teach me how to say it That nigga's the man Yo

Hard beat Come on You tap one of the best rappers Yo Write something for me To this right here Right now No now

Give it to me Go ahead Paul Go ahead Paul Tell you what I'll be watching best rapper write something for me to this right now no now give it to me go ahead Puff go ahead Puff tell you what I'll be watching oh I'll definitely watch absolutely everybody in here

I don't care what the platform is you can put it wherever you want to I'ma watch everybody in here Mike go that too yeah that's work for Atlanta Trips

I'm on Clubhouse beating them in verses with the Puff catalog I yeah no it's real I didn't know Clubhouse beating them in verses with the Puff catalog. Yeah. No, it's real. I didn't know Clubhouse still existed, really. You on Clubhouse?

That's an ad. You're doing too much. No. Keep it pushing. Keep it pushing. Doing too much now. Too much focus. Too much focus.

All right. So y'all didn't give y'all predictions for verses, verses, verses. Puff. It's Puff. No, not this verses. Verses, verses, Triller. Everybody versus versus versus. Puff. It's Puff. No, not this versus. Versus versus Triller. Everybody give a prediction. Come on.

I think they had a bit. Pick a side. Amazon, Apple, or I'm team versus. Either Amazon, Apple, or YouTube. No, I just think I'm asking in terms of this versus.

Who comes out on the better? Triller or versus? Versus. It's over for Triller. I think versus. In fact. I think this will be the nail in the coffin for Triller or Versus Versus it's over for Triller in fact I think

I think Triller doesn't have the resources they already got smoked by TikTok just to monetize it hang it up I just think

I don't know how they can make money Vine 2.0 it's over yeah I agree and I'm sure the gentlemen behind it they obviously created a big platform so they figure something else out

but that name and brand is probably, yeah. Well, I was home thinking, damn, if you offer a blank check and you only get 50 million of it, how mad would you be? In a year and a half. Ta-da. Well, and a settlement. And a settlement is coming.

Hold on. It's 50 million in cash and stock. We don't know how much was what. One. ta-da well and a settlement and a settlement is coming hold on it's 50 million in cash and stock we don't know how much was what one and they trying to go public

we don't know nigga that might not be that much that's a good one that's a very good point and we don't know if the 50 million included

production fees we don't know nothing about that 50 million and I think their response is worded that way for a reason.

We hate him. I know that fucking Even that Isley Brothers Earth, Wind & Fire cost a couple dollars to get them gentlemen out of bed on a Sunday. Listen.

You can say this for the culture if you want. Culture my wire, nigga. They had nurses in the back how much you think it cost to keep the ambulance back there the RNs the RNs

god damn nigga was looking at that shit like Oh he alive still Alright man Alright come on Holy shit Yo why y'all showing me Wayne Wonder yo I got a list of things to talk about

Before Wayne Wonder And ain't none of them important Now you got a gold plaque after 20 years. Huh? Excuse me? No letting go. Wow. Yeah.

No letting go just went gold after 20 years. That's impossible. I'm definitely calling Def Jam. Yeah, that sounds crazy. Check on my shit. That's impossible. Yeah, there's something wrong with that. That's impossible.

I know an extra 4,000 niggas boy pumping. I'm calling up here. Over 20 years, he got a point. You got to go back for them old plaques. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, what's that at now? Uh-huh.

Yeah, I'm still here. Hold up, fam. What? I don't know who bought it, but this shit right here has at least 100 million spins. No.

No, it don't. You crazy. It was stuck on. It was stuck on. It was stuck on. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. You know how you do with the old car? You roll the odometer

back a little bit? They hit them with that one, man. Yeah, yeah, they rolled it back. They rolled it back. No, you're not going to go. Probably some claws in there and then if it's a gold record after 20 years.

Wait, didn't they cancel this record? Nah. No. No. Nah. This is one of them good records they canceled. They canceled Nah. No. No. Nah. One of them good records they canceled. They canceled Boom Ba Ba.

Yeah. Yeah. That's what they canceled. That's what they canceled. There's a couple of them. Can you say that? Boom Ba Ba? You can say that.

I can say that part. You can't say nothing else. This right here is one of the most popular songs of the last... These new niggas are erasing these niggas' code catalogs.

Classics. There's erasing classics.as' code catalogs. Classics. Just erasing classics. They changing the scoreboard, boy. They used to go up in the park. What? Oh, these new niggas came out and said, you know what? We like what you said.

Wait, you're not on there spazzing, are you? Yo, you was going to get a headstand when that came on. Oh, man. And them T.O.K. records, too. Oh, man. Yo you was Are you smashing You was gonna get a headstand When that came on Right Oh man And them T.O.K. records too Oh man Wait the T.O.K. records Is out of here too Yes

You can't say that no more Nigga I don't know What they was saying In the first place Why do that apply to me I don't I never knew What they was saying

Oh man It's alright Go ahead saying. Oh, man. It's all right. Go ahead, yo. The T.O.K. song was Chi-Chi, man. I don't know what that is. Let's just leave it alone, then. Let's just leave it alone.

Ice is Jamaican. I know. Nigga, you been in... We just gonna move on. Yeah, yeah. We really gonna move on. Puff says R&B is dead. Puff also has an R&B album coming out. Exactly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yo, I'm gonna put the resuscitation on it. No, you got an R&B whole label. Label, everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just, just. This is Ice's T-shirt. Yo, hold on for a minute.

It's on. Rob. Open that door, pass me my cape. We know you got it. Open that door back there and let me get my... We know you got it. Give me the blue one. Now you got to get the shiny one.

Yes, you got to get the shiny cape. Red Pleather. Okay, I think I got it. Thanks. You got to get the shiny cape. June Ambrose designed it for you. All right, you gentlemen were saying? What were you saying?

That Puff has an R&B album coming out. Label. Label coming out. Both facts. So for him to say R&B is dead, okay, we're going to push that narrative, and then guess who's going to resuscitate it? Old Puffster. Oh, good old Puff. So he didn't say that.

He didn't say I will resuscitate it. It's implied. It's implied. We are grown men. We're not going to say another nigga's implying. Come on. Let the girls do that. He didn't say I will resuscitate it. No, it's implied. We are grown men. We're not going to say another nigga's implying. Come on. Let the girls do that. Cool.

We're not being implied. We're men, yo. That cape is flat. You see this shit? I ain't want men to do that. I don't even see a fan. Charge me for what I said. Talk to me about the words that came out of my mouth.

Now what I implied. Ain't no way in the world that you can just leave mouth. Now what I implied. Now that I have your attention, I hope you all understand how important R&B is to our culture. Exclamation point. Exclamation point. We need more love. Hold up.

What's the name of said label? What's his name? His name is love now. We need more of me. Is that implication? That's how you interpret it? Yo, you good. Any nigga with some ears here.

Well, before he said any of this, the talk of the town, and I think the cover of Vibe, the cover of one of these shits is, hey, all here, the R&B toxic kings, but are they taking it too far? That's been the conversation. So I'm not interpreting love as him. I'm interpreting love as love, like not that toxic shit that they're doing. One. Two, I overstand all of your points. Valid.

Valid. They're facts. Album coming. But Puff has always been Mr. R&B. I know. That's why I don't understand y'all saying that. All of y'all know Puff to be Mr. R&B. I know. That's why I don't understand y'all saying that. All of y'all know Puff to be Mr. R&B. Puff is Mr. Mute.

It ain't like he just popping out of the blue and saying, yo, R&B is wack and this is why. He gave us Marry My Life, Marry Share My World, fucking, come on, we know what he did. We ain't got to do this. We don't got to run down the disc. Yeah, Summer Rain 112. I'm just saying he ain't a new nigga saying this at all

no doubt but is R&B wait wait time out let me ask each of you a question and the floor is yours Puff don't have a license to talk R&B to you

of course he does same question to you CDL that's what I said my answer is the same you PhD floor is yours

alright okay Puff is also a businessman yes or no hell of a marketer okay you took i was also a great marketer right fat okay so if i am to when he's announced remember this was supposed to be coming last year so if i'm gearing up to get ready yeah so we're here now if i'm gearing up to get ready to launch my label launch my R&B album change everything

what better way to do it than to get some get some talk like this going let's start a conversation a little combo and take no no no

hold on hold on what's a better way to get y'all attention about it okay cause that's what he said now that I got your attention

let me jump in that is my only beef with this let me hold on let me take my cape off that's my only beef with this. Let me take my cape off. That's my only beef with this.

Dr. Strange cape. That shit all by itself. He late. He late. Every week I'm seeing Sean Stockman say this, but it's Sean, boys to men, icon. Some of y'all don't know. Tank has been doing this since February, me and him.

B-Cock's been on the phone. John Tate. The R&B, B. Cox been on the phone, John Tate. The R&B niggas have been behind the scenes and trying to push this conversation. Correct. That's my issue with this. Now, why that's not an issue for me is you need a puff. You need the person on the next level to echo your sentiment and make it a national conversation. My other beef would be that there's a lot of good R&B.

It's just not elevated to the point of public awareness enough. Why is that? I argue that. I argue that. I don't. I see people say that. I do too. You play a lot of good R&B on this podcast.

It's new. It's not in bulk. I disagree. There's no one genre of music that's just putting out great shit in bulk. It ain't about quality of music no more. It's about the algorithms. No, it's about no that's what they're playing no they can market but it's affecting the music so now people ain't going in the studio saying i want to put my heart and my soul in and i want to put this pain on this record and i want to put this amazing music out i want to argue that people are going

to the studio i want to argue that i them finish those who are there's still some artists out there i'm not saying no one but people are going into the studio and as directed by these labels yo i need something that i could sell that i could make go viral here that i could do this and they got to play that game so let me ask you this right yes if if india iree jill scott brian mcknight put out an album tomorrow do you you think they're playing an algorithmic game? No. I just said there are artists still. But those same artists could put out an amazing project and we won't support it.

Let me ask you. A lot of people won't hear it. Forget support it. That's true. Because the algorithms are not putting it on their playlists. It's the algorithmic game. But everybody don't necessarily get their... I come in here,

we all responsible for a sleeper every week. And y'all crack on me sometimes with the sleepers that I find because some of these sleepers might have 100 views. That's not why we crack on you. Yeah, you don't even know why we crack on you.

That's not why we crack on you. No, Ice, the other, last week I played a sleeper, Ice wrote, where'd you find this? Because it only had 245. That wasn't the joke.

That wasn't the joke. And we shouldn't expose the joke. You got a good operation going on. Just make your point. Just make your point, young gang. Just make your point, young gang. Brand rising. Get your shit off.

What's wrong? He can really see what they have to offer. You know what I mean like good eye for talent anyway right so but back to that sometimes when the belt is in the groove

just let the belt go he got a good belt going however you doing it what I'm look but what I'm saying is some of those sleepers

I'll find based on something that I'm already listening to you get what I'm saying so it could be an artist that nobody ever heard of but it's a similar type of music and they'll recommend it to you get what i'm saying so it could be an artist that nobody ever heard of but it's a similar type of music and they'll recommend it to you so if you listen in the

quality shit more quality shit is going to be recommended to you sometimes and let me jump in here let me jump in let me jump in let me jump in let me jump in and argue issues point a different as genres and cultures i am holding you to how how it was at inception of you if you are a rapper and you can't get on a mic in a park and say things and get shit done i'm looking at you funny rap was never rap we beef and rap now that it's algorithmic because that's not how we started right right the same for me exists in rmb my beef now is if you are rmb and you're playing the algorithm game that's not how this started rmb was the church the open mic the panhandler singing. It was singing, a microphone singing.

Maybe not even a mic. Yeah, word. Yeah, train stations. Not one synthesizer in sight. Now, I don't apply that to white formats, because from the start, they always had radio. They always had video. Our soul singers had to go play the clubs you just had to use your voice yo you opening up a different level of conversation but i mean

but that's where this is the new age version of that so when puff was explaining himself he said name me five singers today that can sing without auto-tune that is a valid question in this r&b conversation but the ones that can sing and that would put out a good project we won't support don't say we don't say we don't say we i'm broadly speaking the masses might not hear it it might be dope shit to tank's point to tank's point now tanks i'm gonna ask you a question after that good tanks out on dream champs and he quoted sam smith's song right yes dope song i think all of us can attest to sam smith being a pretty good artist yeah sam how does he sell a shit ton of records but if tank said if he had the same exact project he wouldn't be as

successful so now you start looking at what's pushing that artist somebody still gotta buy it no they don't today they really don't look at the yo look at these numbers today when you when these sales numbers come out it'd be like this person did 60 000 first week right 18 000 be sales okay they're not buying music but you know what's gonna show when that nigga hit the tour bus it's oh no i agree because you can't fake them asses in the seats i agree with you 100 there's there's access number one album of the week that can't tour so what i'm saying now is there's an appreciation for a certain type of music because when a nigga go on tour adele is selling out tours and i mean but the the tanks the these are people that have long fan bases that have they have fed for a while

they have real fans a brand new artist today is hard for them they're up against the machine ice ice ice ice stop everyone stop everyone stop everyone everyone stop for a second jesus it's tough all right it's them first week numbers and the projections and the sales of the project from the people that just much like the billboard spots much like the grammys who is that for that's for the labels that's for the labels's for the labels. That's for the labels. Yeah, that's all label shit. It's for the labels. Of course.

That's who that's for. And it's fake most of the time. And because the labels got to play that game. The independent R&B artists, and trust me, there's many of them out there because if you look at the bottom

of your favorite joint... It's their name. Yeah, it's some other shit written down there. It ain't the label. We never hear what you're saying about those artists we never hear a such asian did this her first week we don't never hear cleo sold this her first week

we don't hear none of that nobody game but they're not playing that game because they're looking at a different set of numbers when some shit come back so yeah we so it's not so yeah so but in y'all conversation it's just right. They got to go on the road and get that money. Y'all both right. But in my conversation, a road, no, we're seeing value from all over the place because we're not doing what you're saying needs to be done here. So we don't need to sell. You don't need to acquiesce and bust your ass and do TikTok and clout chasing.

No, look. your ass and and do tiktok and clout chasing no and and and wait pot stirred to have a interesting conversation or uh trauma bond or stirred emotional pot you don't need to do none of that when the music is good that's true i agree and you didn't sign your likeness away and your publishing away and your fucking foot uh in perpetuity if you're not moving like that you don't have to become a slave to the game that you keep describing is all i'm saying now what i'm saying is when everybody keeps saying killed r&b they talking about the popular shit that they seeing at the top levels they're not talking about those are those artists and acts that y'all list exist they're gonna always exist yo and you know what they are yeah but you know what happens the people that are doing it this way rely on the ways that

independent great music makers do word of mouth fucking uh a hot tune here that's what happens so let me ask you all a question let me let me let me wait no no but wait i'm a pillow fight last week two weeks i know but y'all won't let me finish my point every time last week or whatever that was i'm going to a strip club with Young Bird. He says, put on your hottest R&B person. You know he's industry executive, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I start just throwing names.

He ain't know him. No, he don't know him. He's knee deep in the fucking industry. Now I'm on my fifth, sixth, and seventh hard Cleo soul song. And he's just unfamiliar. He didn't know. But, yo, I'm leaving here. I'm going to go do my research.

Oh, she's a part of Salt. All of that. The same thing got to happen for somebody like a Puff. Yes. And who Puff kind of, Puff got Stacey Barf with him. Stacey, I love you.

Puff got Stacey with him. Like, the people we naming should have people around them to point out the who's who's what's and what's that's what an A&R used to be right

the person to come to the executive and say this is what you need him right here they not gonna fucking know

hang on though the fans kill me yo y'all didn't break down such and such nigga I'm busy I didn't hear it maybe you not seeing the lane I'm trying to go in

I ain't sitting around listening to albums you need somebody around you that's kind of what i've been saying that's what i'm saying like because it's not i thought i was smoking you fuck no you're not smoking you're saying the same thing somebody like a puff because i don't have anybody around to point that out to me i might think r&B is dead because I don't hear it. Even though they are going to continue making, yo, don't ask the Cleo Souls and all of them. They never going to stop.

There's going to be more of them next year. They're going to keep coming with that same music. But if nobody shine a light on it, niggas ain't going to hear it. Tank is retiring. Know why that's so sad to me? Because that's one nigga off my list

of people I can always count on to get R&B from. Except for that one album he tried to bug out. But I can always count on him to do this. Exactly this. Listen to it. The whole thing. And shout out to Cardiac. You're back again, goddammit, with fucking number four.

No limit. He's good. Cardiac's good. Friend of the show. Friend of the show. No limit. He's good. Cardiac's good. Friend of the show. Yeah, Cardiac got some shit. He all over Tink joined, too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good talk. Yeah? I don't think R&B

is dead. Not even close. I think A&R is dead. I was about to say, I think A&R is out here stealing money and young niggas... No, they're not stealing money. They're just playing a different game. I look at the job postings for them, and it's data. They want data. That's my point.

So now you're going to go get yourself hot on Instagram, and we're going to find a nigga that's already hot on Instagram and bring him to the label instead of finding a true talented nigga that might be a little quirky. We got to work on his image, but he's talented.

You get what I'm saying? So we're going to bring him some nigga from... from because the when you're talking a and r to the label it's that anytime you say label it's the algorithm algorithmic game unfortunately as opposed to the talent game as opposed to the talent game and that's what i've been saying they're in the business of selling they are in the business and unfortunately for today what sells the record is the algorithms. Brent's reply to all this was that sub-genres are dead. Just create a vibe, put it out. I actually saw, I forgot what the podcast was, but they was talking about that.

In the future, maybe near future, music may be genre-less and mood-based instead of genre-based. I kind of see that happening. This is R&B. That makes sense. This is chill. This is up-tempo. This is aggressive. Yo, that's what they...

If you go look at... Go look at any of these streaming services. They literally have the playlist named that. Yeah, exactly. This is the chill playlist. It's lit.

It's this. It's this. And that's all it is. It's all different type of music for that this and that's all it is it's all different type of music for that move that's the game they playing now and that's the game that all the majors rmb ain't dead but it's severely injured i don't think it's that either it's a little bruised up name me 10 right now and stop man fam i'm not an rmb guy first off that's not my that's not my that's not my main genre to listen to but what i'm saying is dead and not being pushed by those the the labels the algorithms is two different things

if you're not playing that game like the artist you named and they still out here getting it independently and doing it their way it's not dead to them let me ask you does that come into fandom and doing it their way, it's not dead to them. Let me ask you, does that come into fandom? What you mean? I just keep saying this.

There's a fan out here that wants certain shit. Yeah. Cool. Certain artists are putting out R&B shit. Exactly what you want. Exactly what you want. And some of them

are making great money from doing it. Why aren't the other people making great money? At some point, I think it's a fan thing and who your demo is. So how do we describe Ed Sheeran? You're naming people that are signed to majors, first off. And that plays a major part in that. When you say Adele and Sam Smith and Ed Sheeran,

these are people signed to majors that they saw that they could market we can get you the right song and we can market it and blow it up so why can't they do that

for somebody else they can do it for whoever they want they just choose not to yeah cause it's easier to find the guy that is already

figuring out how to get popular on his own and get people to interact he's hot on the internet half the work is done yeah it's unfortunate but that's that's the game. Yeah. Half the work is done. Yeah.

It's unfortunate, but that's the game. That's the game. They don't want to develop no artists no more. Yo, come to us with a hit. Come to us buzzing in the streets. Come to us buzzing on the internet. How many followers you got?

What's your... They looking at your numbers. What's your impressions? What's this? What's that? Okay, cool. Now we can work with you. Otherwise,

go get your numbers up before you fuck with us. Go out there, work's sad but that's not good business i don't know the music business i look at that as shitty business i me personally the major label business is i think fairly generally looked at as shitty business i'm talking about but they still in business to make bread no doubt so when you establish a long-term artist you're gonna eat off that artist for a long time the label is ish what they keep trying to tell you in very nice ways is there's not very many people that the label is looking at to establish as a long-term artist the people that y'all named adele and Ed Sheeran are long term artists for the label

how'd they get there? don't ask me cause I'll turn into something else up here no I'm just saying I kinda was steering us that way I'll turn into something else

no I was steering us that way but alright it's cool I just think we it's a market for everything. There is. There absolutely is.

Better find yours. Take it off of R&B. We all have our, especially me and Parks, have our different sub-genres of rap that we listen to. The sub-genre that Parks listens to ain't the most popular. It ain't listed everywhere. But them dudes is eating. Eating. Touring.

Merch. Independent. Vinyl. Eating. Probably making more than the niggas that I listen to. Eating is relative. But go ahead. No, no.

Okay. But they not. He'll play some shit that a lot of people ain't heard. Never. Who the fuck is this so that's like for someone to now say listening to the shit especially what i listen to or the auto-tuned rap or any of that that's been popular as of late to say damn your rap is dead remember when it used to be this no it's not it still exists it's just that the companies that now own rap that own music

ain't pushing it that's really what it all boils down until it hits a certain point then they're gonna come in scoop it up water it down or do whatever they want to do to it and now we're gonna run try it for a little bit and then toss it aside that's it we duck in the smoke please please explain yeah what's the smoke is i don't never want to duck smoke and if there's any nigga out there that think I'm ducking smoke tell me cause I want to tiptoe

to that smoke I just think I just think that certain certain demos I think your appearance plays a huge part Elvis yup

yeah I think your I think I think that your your appearance plays and to me today music, your appearance and your outer persona plays too much a part in your success. I just think that. I think it's not about the quality of the music no more. It's about what we can market. And your physical and your outer appearance plays into marketing, of course, as it should. And that's where the tables tip. I mean, the scales tip to me. And that's kind of my, and that's kind of,

to piggyback off of Isha's point, I agree with him, one. And two, unfortunately, the same holds true for our niggerness. True. Like, the more you step into the niggerness, and that's not a word, of course, but. We celebrate niggerocity. We do. The more you step into the niggerness and that's not a word of course but we celebrate niggerocity we do

and so when you step into that you can be successful but if you stray or stray away from that enough and are fortunate enough to be hand selected then you have a different route planned for a different path planned out for you for a whole different demo so true but that's my beef with rmb rmb never had to acquiesce to nigger them true there you go that wasn't y'all there you go they got to come in and say why don't we go yo you're good to the end of yo nigga i wasn't in no relationship but was sad i couldn't i couldn't word it the way you word yo when Jodeci Cry For You came out I wasn't in no relationship

I sad like it's certain SWV week came out I might have been a little weak but that shit hit me I get so

weak in the me I'm the Simon I lose all control but that's what all the girls do they never do the

worst of their hook they sing I get so weak in the knees. I'm a son in me. I lose all control. And something said over me. Nah, they knew that. Come on, dog.

They knew that. They just learned that at these new age R&B parties. I'm talking about the 90s. They didn't know what the fuck they were saying. They know the words now because Tidal put them up there. Genius put them up there. I'm talking about when the song was out. So today, R&B artists, you get looked like some bitch-ass nigga if you make any time cory off mic said

tory lanes uh he don't like tory lanes talking to puff because tory lanes wouldn't make making the band i counter that point with yes he would he wouldn't have been in the band he'd have been in that studio he would have been working behind the scenes like Shorty teaching him the dance moves. He would have been Puff's number one man to have them in the studio because he can create the song.

So he would have been there. I also counter y'all point about Tory, even though I know what y'all trying to say. You can't use auto-tune the way he uses it without being able

to somewhat sing. That's next. It's not possible. You can tell the difference. I'm not saying that he can't sing at all. Yeah, you can't use that thing like that. So he might not be Freddie Jackson, but he ain't some of these other people

that's playing around with his auto-tune thing. Thanks. Icahola Notin got on that auto-tune and was all fucked up. That shit was sounding like Mr. Robot or somebody. You can sing, though. Yeah yeah you can sing a little bit but you gotta know there's a gift in that but if you sat in the studio and played around with it for a week auto auto tune what happened you sounded like a motherfucking i'm just but i'm pointed out to the novice that's never tried to

sing that way they don't know they just hear the finished product, which is music. they don't know the difference. Yeah. Which is most people, by the way. But even in the Tory argument, his musicianship supersedes most. That nigga can make songs.

Yo, y'all didn't know. A lot of these niggas today can sing. They that can't necessarily make songs. Y'all didn't know Bobby Caldwell was white.

So, why I'm talking to y'all about R&B? Like, it's a few, it's a few little r&b facts that y'all be confused about where it's like why am i talking to you about this yo sean stockman called me the other day i was with my son he was with his wife joe off the record can i just speak to you so honored well i'm honored anytime somebody that i put on my christmas list in 91 hey this album like speaks to me bun b scarface uh puff another anybody that i was rushing to the store for that values my opinion i'm honored in that Especially when they know that they could call me to have like a heart to heart

because I care about music. See, you get back what you put out. That's also in this argument. In R&B, if you stop caring about the algorithm and the TikTok and the fans and put out what's truly in your heart to put out, you'll be all right. That applies to all genres.

And I think the numbers come. That's all the applies to all genres. And I think the numbers come. That's all the way across the board. And I think the numbers come. Division on Twitter hit me or was hitting a fan back. And he was like, you know, Joe just got to stand in being wrong when he wrong.

Like he ain't going to never come back and say I was wrong. And I said, hey, no, time will tell if I'm wrong. I'll come back and say I'm wrong. And then he replied with all of these stats yo this is the most

talked about song in the last five years yo this is the most played song over the weekend over June this is the most played song

he replied with all of these little robot stats and I read that shit and said what the fuck do that have to do with my point

that's them Braun stats I mean Braun got real stats too but you know they'll come out What the fuck do that have to do with my point? That's them bronze stats. I mean, Bron got real stats, too. No, but you know, they'll come out with the... Yo, he has the most 50-point game with five assists in the month of December. Also about to break that Remy. Also about to break that Remy. Huh?

Huh, Mike fans? What the fuck about that Mike shit, yo? I don't want to hear that Mike Jordan shit no more, yo. Quiet on that, man. Quiet on that Mike shit, yo. I'm about to break the Remy in the first three months of the season. Yo, highest paid player ever. Most points ever.

Most playoff games ever. Most years ever played. My son is in the league. I'm ushering in. Don't talk to me about Mike no more. What he did against Craig Elo and them? Talk to me about that shit, yo. I got all the Jordan 3s I need, all right?

I got all the cement 3s I need, all right? I love riling up the old niggas. Look at the old niggas. Go ahead, get your shirt You're on a podcast Don't look at me This ain't a look cast But look

Yo The same shit you do You love riling up the old niggas That's what that R&B argument is It's the same shit bro They ain't riling me up Yo It ain't

It is Let me tell you why it ain't Let me help y'all The young niggas can't They don't have a brawn Know why you can't rile me up I wish I could scroll I got all R&B albums.

All of the niggas that can sing, I buy it. I'm just scrolling. I don't have to look. Most of this is R&B. It's all R&B. Niggas you never heard of.

Nigga that came out yesterday. I'm waiting on Tempest right now. She just got a deal. I'm waiting on nigga. I'm waiting on the future new crop. You 2014 to 2020 niggas, y'all had y'all shot know what y'all

did put out one fucking project that's what y'all did the fuck are we talking about r&b is alive y'all got it and put out two minute two packs i ain't trying to rile up old niggas you niggas stop doing the work the game changed for them good go get it. I support everybody going to get it. The game changed for them. But the music lovers will judge on music lover judgments. Understandable. Not this new shit. Metrics. Not this new shit going on.

Uh-uh. Two turntables and a mic. Rules still in effect. Facts. Sedgwick Ab. Rules still in effect, yo. Rules are still in effect. If you changing that shit, you doing that for

the people that I used to talk about. The mainstream. Yeah. And if we talking about the mainstream people, most y'all trash. Y'all are bad. Nah, I'm with you there. Y'all are bad. That part. Huh? I have Leon Bridges. I know what's good. I've heard Raheem Devon before.

I know what's good and what's bad. It's me, yo. I talk R&B with any of you niggas. The fuck is we talking about? Niggas is horrible. Yo, what's your problem? Y'all so bad, I got to wait two years for SZA. More than two years.

More than two years. But I'm saying two years since when I thought she was coming out. I'm still waiting. Whenever it come, it come. That's how bad y'all are. Y'all sunk. Yo, that was his response? I didn't see that.

That was terrible. No, that's marketing. I'm not mad at the marketers. You right. Market, I don't want to seem like a hater. That is the game that they're playing. I'm not mad at the marketers. Get y'all shit off.

But when the music lovers start talking, mind y'all fucking business. Stay Get y'all shit off. But when the music lovers start talking, mind y'all fucking business. Stay on y'all side of the club, and we'll stay on our side of the club. We don't care what y'all do over there. But I'm talking about music. As far as artists, I don't give enough of a fuck about most of y'all. Some of y'all make really great tunes, though. And that's why I'm here.

That needed to be said, too, be said too man you gave it to him yeah that's true I thought Sean was gonna tell us what Sean said I would never say what Sean said but the point was niggas that let be we having long talks behind the scenes about

yo what's up man yo what's up, man? Yo, what's going on? That's when I could really get geeky. You already started that fucking song. That's when I really turned up. You know what the fuck? When I was at Bridge,

the second quarter. Yeah, man, enough. Enough. Enough. And some of y'all, I opened this seat to, not most of y'all, but some of y'all. But I know R&B is dead y'all but some of y'all but i know r&b is

dead because look at what the niggas that could sing have to do i said that about division hey jock we start trying to sing over other niggas shit y'all laughed him out the gym i don't want to hear that y'all niggas love r&b anyway i do believe puff loves r&b he uh he added on to the conversation throw me a water out of there please he added on to the Anyway I do believe Puff loves R&B Okay Breathe, yo He added on to the conversation Throw me a water out of there, please He added on to the conversation

While we were potting He said He added billboard and said Why was the R&B and hip-hop Put on the same chart To compete with each other What'd you say, Parks? Oh, it's right there

He said Why was R&B and hip-hop Put on the same chart To compete with each other Can someone in charge over there explain to us why this is why the niggas like me have to applaud

when Puff gets involved because Puff could call the person that creates billboard nah he can make change yeah he can make change that's a very valid question though

he can make change you know the answer to that race y'all take the nigga shit we'll take this Y'all take the nigga shit We'll take this That's all it is We'll give you a number one

But with a little asterisk next to it You can get number one over here We don't worry about this This chart over here It's our shit It's all it is Bro it's a game So you need disruptors And it's really to keep the I'm not mad at you It's really it is, bro. It's a game. So you need

disruptors. And it's really to keep the middle class down, actually, because artists in both R&B

and hip-hop that would normally chart in the top ten or top five get pushed down because it's

both of them lumped together. So someone that may get that notoriety and the accolade of being a top ten artist

gets pushed out because now I'm competing with Brent Fires or whoever the fuck else is over here. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah.

So the cream of the crop is still up there, but you push out the middle class. I don't know what went into that process. I met the criteria to be selected,

but I wasn't. It's the good R&B niggas. Niggas take a sink. They got to stand outside the club. All right. Come on. Y'all got me riled up enough. Somebody else turn to take us out of here.

Come on. Say something wild. We did it, huh? Somebody say something wild and crazy. Shoot these numbers through the roof. Fucking bazooka out of here on these dudes. One Puff album dropping? We don't know.

Yeah, we don't know yet. I'm waiting on Puff. I'm waiting on Usher. That's another one. Been toying around for a minute. Usher ain't about to play. Yeah, he's not about to play at all. Nah.

Every clip that you see just look like, yeah, we can already go up. You think he's skating like that for nothing? You skate like that when you got some shit on the way. And you know it, too. He ain't skating like, yo, I got to get back to the studio at 9. He's skating like, yo, what's up for the weekend? He outside. You know what they just did in the studio?

That is a real good feeling when you leave the studio after smoking something. Absolutely. And then you get to go to sleep and wake up in the morning and listen to it again because it sounds better in the morning. Oh, my Lord. And when it sounds better in the morning? my lord Sound better You couldn't do that Who? You I did that all the time

No There was a step in between That you missed You got home and put it out Word This nigga Joe get home And it's uploaded What you doing?

I was the first uploader I was the first stream farm. You was the first leaguer. Upload that shit up all, a few places. Make sure this is up. All right. Tank dropped.

I know we're supposed to be off of music, but here we are, not off of music. All right. And it's good. Standout tracks? Or does the whole thing just go? Whole thing is a vibe.

If you like singing and, like, notes hit where they're supposed to be hit. And harmonies that match each other. Everything on key. Dance synchronized. That's crazy. Dancing with each other. If you like that type of R&B man take out something for you to

Real big dope lay it down, you can't be saved Ain't nothing short about the rules It's the long way I'm coming back in disruptive I'm coming back in disruptive You've been playing on the undercard This the main event You've been wishing on a star

Take my man, but he might have slept on Alex Isley on his joint She came in smoking I'ma need plenty of it I don't just like, I love it But he might have slept on Alex Isley on his joint. She came in smoking I'm not for that need I stir with the deep You can do nothing with it The whole album is this vibe Like mid A lot of pianos A lot of harmonies A lot of R&B So you know

When we spoke to him And he was saying how He listens to Like Hip hop That's drip too hard You get that Well yeah we know

And it's just like You can see what he did Unfortunate that he feels like He has to Yeah that's the bad part You remember my every move. And forget your... She might have smoked your boots on this one.

Ain't no singles anywhere, but I still make you rage. You've been playing on the undercards. It's the main event. Yeah, turn this off. She smoked your boots. I would call you and tell you, but I ain't mad at you because you also did this on this album. This one, I knew he wasn't going to play.

They smoked this, him and J. Valentine. Slow. Off this album. We played it here, so I won't leave it on. But just to prove a point. Then I'm coming in disruptive. Mmm. Mmm.

Yeah. Oh man, turn this off here. Turn this off here. What she did? She knew what she came to do. You know how much fucking I be doing in Greece? I'm out of here. I'm gone. I'm going to hire a photographer to tape me. Hey, tape this move.

I might have to get wild for 42, 42 bud. I might have to get wild for 42 bud. Look, they hating now. Don't say that. Wild. I can't be 42 bud. It's crazy. 42 bud. Look, they hating now. Don't say that. Wow, I can't be a 42 bud. It's crazy. 42 bud.

All right, gentlemen. Let's do it. What's up? We're discussing birthday captions. Birthday captions for your significant other. I feel like the birds drop need to just at some point. But go ahead. On the birthday captions?

Yeah. I don't even know where you're going. I want to where you're going i just told you where i'm going you love birds oh my god i gotta lead what do you do when it's your significant other's birthday and it's time to post a picture and write a little caption underneath. Lost me right there. Excuse me. Right there. I don't play the Instagram showing off shit. So that's a no for you. We have a no for you, right?

We have a hell no for you. That's a hell no for Ice. I don't play them games. Corey ain't had a girl since jail. Put the fee fee on the couch. When he sons some little nigga. The nigga, you mine now. You in this cell, nigga.

I won't ask the young boys. Yo, what's wrong with you? No, that's what you should ask. They're young boys. I never am coming to the door. That social media shit is a young man's game. All right, young men in the back. Where do y'all stand on this?

Nah, you got to throw a little something on there. See, yeah. Today's girl wants you to throw a little something on there. So now what do you put? Nah. What do you put? Oh, what do I put? More life, more everything.

Sounds about right. Sounds about right. Sounds about right. Now, now, I'm done with y'all in the back that was your homeboy or your girl you gotta talk to your girl

like your homeboy you gotta write it like that now on the flip side how does your you guys as partners handle these things I do have some where I'm going

just follow me she don't really do it for me either oh you're in fucking perfect land over there same with you she'll post something

she'll post something she'll post some now how is her caption normally oh I cherish the ground that you walk on right it's all of that right

it'd be all that with a whole slide show of shit you know like you can't just put one picture up you gotta put all of them up huh

yeah it'd be all that birthday captions have been they've been causing quite a stir out there Yeah, it'd be all that. Birthday captions have been, they've been causing quite a stir out there. And the other morning, it happened again. I woke up and I read a birthday caption. A young lady posted to her significant other.

She shall remain nameless. but she's a super associate, super associate. We love her. One of the most gorgeous women out of New York. She might not just be, no, my God, ain't just New York. One of the most gorgeous women out of New York.

And the gentleman, I think he is a jeweler and he seems to be doing well for himself. And the gentleman, I think he is a jeweler and he seems to be doing well for himself. And I read, it was a boyfriend reveal. Oh, pardon me. I'm sorry.

I mean, niggas knew already, but, and she wrote a caption. I read it, laughed for about three hours, sent it to mad people, and then went on about my business.

But then a few hours later, I pick up my phone and see that a few other people sent it to mad people, and then went on about my business. But then a few hours later, I pick up my phone and see that a few other people found this just as funny as I. They did. You ain't sent it to me and I got it twice. So I'm going to read it

just because this is the funniest. She deleted it. Oh, nigga, we kept the files. Oh, of course we kept the files. This is just the internet. We kept the fouls Of course we kept the fouls This is just the internet We kept the fouls And not to be in women's business But y'all are great sometimes

When it comes to this shit So let's See I love a little mess. This guy is a different type of guy. All right. Got it? I don't play.

Hey, here we go. All right. This says, and I quote, and I'm reading from the start to the finish. As you should. You going to do the voice? No. No. I'm just from the start to the finish. As you should. You gonna do the voice? No, I'm just gonna read this. Sometimes I be mad I ignored you for so many years. See, first of all, don't start your shit.

Yeah, don't start that way. No, this is only getting better. I read it. LOL. Now look at me. Went from blocking you before we even dated to waking up next to you every day. Went from hell no to being your girlfriend to you moving me in within months. I remember watching you closely and thinking to myself, what the fuck?

Why does he wants me for? I'm nothing close to what he's used to dealing with. Ratchet, loud ass, obnoxious bitches out there. I'm the complete opposite. Why me? Yes, do the voice. You got to do it now. You got to do it now. You got to do it now.

You got to do it now. Thank you, bro. Oh, you put it up there. Thank you. The dedication and pressure you applied to me from before you met me is something no one could ignore. But the more pressure you applied, the more scared I got to get to know you. Best thing that happened was getting stuck with you For weeks in Mexico After you hid my passport And acted like I had lost it LOL

Yo That's a wild shit That's the best thing, huh? A ghetto version of the movie 365 Days This Day Heart emojis. While you kept me in Mexico hostage, I got... While you kept me in Mexico hostage,

I got to see the man without the jewelry. No cars. No money. No gifts. Just you in Jesus sandals, shorts, and personality. I got to know the family man who's funny,

dedicated, and you is smart. You everything. You're everything I wish for, and if I had to do it again, I would have answered you sooner And had my own passport To be stuck with you I appreciate you

Still applying pressure Like you just had met me Setting time aside To take me on date On dentist Oh wait no Oh that ain't everything buddy But I got it oh you can't trick me no i love that you're an amazing father to the boys and truly enjoy being a father and you

tell me i'm as beautiful every morning and you kiss me when i'm sleeping wait how did we start there? Yo, we're being up so great. It's about us. Let me read that again. I love that, see, this was going great. I love that you is an amazing father to the boys and truly enjoy being a father. And you tell me I'm as beautiful every morning

and kiss me when I'm sleeping. I love that when you speak about future plans, you include me and say, for us and we. You make sure I feel loved and appreciated on the days you are hard to deal with. Wait, huh? Wait. Wait. Wait.

There's days he's hard to, wait. Sometimes you be looking for the Christian rock, but I try my hardest to stay nice and peaceful. I love how you're medium childish in a funny way. Happy birthday, baby. I love you. Thank you for being a good boyfriend, friend. P.S. Don't slide into his DMs.

I'm still logged into his Instagram. I see your desperado assass thirsty pick-me-please DMs. Even when you view his story a thousand times. Don't get uninvited from the wedding. Pliss.

LOL. Pliss. I would be calling my lawyer. My wife better not post those shit like that. Yo, just don't post me, dog. Just don't post me dog Just don't post me dog You can go act single

If you gotta do this Just go act single I don't even care That nigga homies hit him like Yo dog Make her delete that dog Get that out of here That is

Come on Ish don't do it I'm not saying Yo not too much on her, yo. That's the homie. Not too much. Word. It is, but it's still funny. That's the homie for over 10 years.

She done held niggas down. I don't got nothing bad to say about her. Oops. Blame that. That's gang. Oh, man. Yo. Yeah, nah. You can keep that. Uh Blame that That's gang Oh man Yo Yeah nah You can keep that

You can text me that Say it in person Don't even text me that Yeah don't text me that Just say happy birthday There's nothing wrong With happy birthday You can text me that

Nigga No you not gonna text me that But then it was the couple A few months back The guy and the girl Where the dude said You're not the most beautiful woman oh yeah neither are you the most intelligent woman but i've chosen to never find

perfection in anyone else i put my gaze on you and with that commitment we would mold ourselves for ourselves our perfection in our commitment oh our perfection is our is in our commitment wow they dissed him oh yeah they killed him they killed him no he got killed as he should so what i'm saying is you should get killed why don't people know how to do i don't understand birthday captions what you mean and what you say sometimes get confused i think that for him she said she was held hostage which is a crime That's kidnapping fam Now she came back And cleaned up

Said ah y'all ain't get my joke Where was the joke? The LOL Oh oh oh Yeah you hit my passport LOL Crying face You know you gotta play

Different games When you get these baddies now You know she was ready To leave too soon I'm extending this trip baddies now. You know she was ready to leave too soon. I'm extending this trip. Stop looking at me, Ice. I don't want no...

Stop looking on a podcast. I can't say that, man. This nigga. That's the same thing you did with Meg. No, it's not. I'm good right here. You good good get on the internet to say your wife is ugly and stupid it's crazy i don't i don't think he said that i don't think he said that at all i think that and and people were sending the shit around like crazy i think he was saying basically and i'm paraphrasing for the gentleman i don't know him

i think that he was saying like yo you might not be the prettiest girl that I ever met, or you might not be the smartest girl I ever met, but you're the perfect girl for me. You ever met women? Me? Yeah. I have. You've met a couple. A couple.

You think they like when you say you're not the prettiest one I ever met? Or the smartest, nigga. Or the smartest. But if that's the truth, that's the truth. Ish. I don't know what you talking about. Yo, dog. Mr. Mr. Mr. Yeah. I think that's the person you marry Ish I don't know what you talking about Yo, dog Mr. Mr. Mr.

Yeah Alright I got you, I got you Jesus Come on in, come on in Come on in How are you? Joey, I canceled you, goddammit

I did Come sit down No, you are not Not by my clock Come on, sit down no you are not not by my clock come on sit down jump right in oh fine go take a piss

oh this is humble it's not the point this watch is a sign of humility the point is you're looking good man why men can't take compliments

it's looking good well thank you thank you we live we don't take compliments we take checks you don't need We live We don't take We take checks You don't need headphones If you don't want them

If that's what you're looking for You don't want headphones I don't need it No you don't need them I don't wear them You don't need them Yeah but his voice Probably

He's probably a little more Into how his voice Sounds on the microphone You don't give a fuck Yeah I don't care Y'all be on mic All right ladies and gentlemen we have a very special individual here. You may have seen him in Starlets.

You may have seen him in the nightlife moving and shaking out there. You may have seen him on Starz. Getting TV money now on you niggas. And rap. He is out of here. He rapping about sex now. Oh, shut up. Shut up. now I knew you would That's why you pulled up on me All right, cut it off, cut it off, cut it off, cut it off.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have none other than Joey Badass here. Yes, yes. Hey, clap, niggas. Clap, what the fuck? Have y'all never been on a fucking set before? Clap, goddamn it. What the hell is wrong with y'all?

Oh, no, I was clapping. All right. Joey, how you doing? Doing great. How you doing? I'm good, I'm good. I'm good. I know that you're doing great.

Because the last time I seen you, I was over by one of my favorite bartenders. And then you came back there. You said what up real quick. And then you went somewhere and I didn't see you no more. Yeah, I was over there with one of my favorite bartenders. I know. I know. I know.

I know. How are you? How you doing? Doing great, man. I'm doing amazing. Come on, tell me. How you doing? Good. I know. How are you? How you doing? Doing great, man. I'm doing amazing. Come on, tell me. How you doing?

Good. You just got off a yacht? No, but I'm going to one soon. Two weeks away. Okay. I'm going to Mykonos. I'm out of here. Mykonos.

Yeah, yeah. I'm out of here. Shit. I'm going to go do it the right way. I'm serving looks out there. Serving looks? I'm serving looks out there. Your brother's serving looks? Yeah, head ass.

We need another picture of you sitting in the pool, Indian stance. You know what I'm saying? No, no. All of that's coming. And look like your head is too big for your body. All of that's coming. Another one of those. All of that is coming.

Vacay mode is in full effect. But I'm here to talk to you about a multitude of things. Okay, let's do it. Come on. TV money versus rap money. Let's get to it. TV money versus rap money. Just repeating the question is a win that's an answer I do well in both is what that's yeah right right let me

contemplate um well um uh well you know there's a lot of money in TV but I've obviously been doing music for a long time so you know money that i've touched in television is you know you've been doing tv for a little while no but the tv projections yeah you know i'm saying like it definitely has increased like my first job on mr robot i was probably making something like five thousand an episode five to seven thousand dollars an episode or something like that is that that was your first job though Yeah that was my first job You know what I'm saying

That's the joint that really Opened the door for me Shout out to Sam Esmail I didn't even know you won Mr. Robot But I haven't watched Mr. Robot Yeah Mr. Robot has won Emmys Great show

So not only is Joey Badass Oscar adjacent But he's also Emmy adjacent You know what I'm saying Soon to be Grammy adjacent Or winning What I have learned about artists and television stars is they don't even come here until they could talk like this Jason yeah when it's time to really talk to y'all this is what I don't feel it's true it's true you know I'm saying cuz it's

like you know I ain't it's there so how many but how many shows have you been on so I've been on Mr. Robot did Wu-Tang did Boomerang I did Beauty with Lena Waithe I did Two Distant Strangers

the short film that one which was Oscar number it won the Oscar my bad my bad can I get another one of those

there we go. Don't disrespect Mr. Badass again. Mr. Badass. Yeah, Mr. Badass. There's a difference between being nominated and winning. Leonardo DiCaprio can tell you that. Yo. Hey, yo, I'm with you.

I see what you're saying. Every time niggas come here. Yo, Leo will tell you. Leo can tell you that. Nah, he's talking to him. My nigga Leo can tell you that. Oh, man. I ain't got no question.

Somebody else do some shit. Where'd you put the Oscar, man? What did I what? Where'd you put the statue? I actually don't have one. So that's why I said Oscar adjacent. Because the film won the Oscar. But I starred in the film.

That's some bullshit. I like to believe that. They just gave you one of the little papers. Hey, nah Hey nah nah nah They gave you a certificate Or something Send me my Oscar The directors actually

Won the Oscar So is in Trayvon Free And Martin Desmond Rose And we got the director's address Of course So we can pull up to him Oh yeah yeah I've already stole it

For a couple days You know a couple weeks You know what I'm saying And I sent it back Very nicely No scuffs and everything Shout out to my boy Trayvon Nah they gotta change that rule man

What is on Yeah I'll be hot Yeah Yeah I mean you know It was whatever I'm thinking about Getting a replica anyway

You know what I'm saying Just having a crib I mean If y'all come to my crib And y'all see the replica Ain't nobody gonna think it's fake Nah it's a fact Until now

Watching this interview But I still don't care You still ain't going Who are you These rappers don't care about replicas. All right, so talk to me about what the visibility has done for your visibility. Rap groupies versus TV groupies. Man.

Rap outings versus TV outings. Did I say Grayson Canaan? You started, yes. I thought you did. No, I didn't cut you off before. Yeah, well... That's my bad. That role has been definitely like a defining role for me because...

So, you know, when I came into TV and film, I made it a thing that I didn't want to do. I didn't want to take on a role as a rapper or a street person. You know what I'm saying? Because, one, I was already a rapper, you know what I'm saying? I was too on the nose. And then with being a street nigga and some shit, it's like I didn't want to get pigeonholed. You know what I'm saying?

I felt like that was easy. When it comes to acting and being a rapper and trying to transition, it's like everybody want that Bishop role right away. But I made it a thing that I didn't want to play any of those roles because I really wanted to show people that I could act you know because I was a theater student in high school for the first two years so like you know I was really on that path or whatever but I learned quickly that that shit was damn near impossible like I was one out of three black kids in the whole joint and it's like you know it was a culture shock for me because it was the first

time I was going to school with white people and stuff like that so i just really couldn't hang i decided that you know i would just double down on music and i'll use that as my leverage in the future and that's ultimately what i did i didn't have no idea you did all that shit yeah oh you been getting tv money from anil yeah it's been as um 2014 that's when it started so what is the biggest lesson that you've learned from tv that you didn't get from music that's where my fascination lies biggest lesson that i learned from um yeah because a lot of music rules you could take with you in other places but in some places you got to learn some new shit that wasn't there before like what has that been in tv and film for you well i i guess with the tv and film shit like

there's way more patience involved you know i'm saying like it's way more work to be an actor than it is to be a rapper especially if you're playing the lead character or something now you had acting coaches when they had to school or that shit? No, no, no. I went to an acting coach one time in my life. And that was for some shit I was doing an audition for that I actually didn't even get. What was the audition? I can't remember.

Some shit mad long ago. You know what I'm saying? I mean, honestly, it might have been Mr. Robot. I'm not clear. I'm not sure. But I went to an acting class one time. And I was in high school in a theater program so like they would teach us you know what i'm saying basic stuff

like that and we had to participate in like a play or a musical or something like that does the acting help your music career absolutely and the biggest way it helps it is it gives me more freedom you know saying music started to pile on top of me like as far as pressure goes as like a job something that I had to do to sustain and you know I'm saying like despite it being something that I'd love to do it also became something that I needed to do to get by and to survive but once you know the acting success came it made music easier because now it feels like the beginning again. needed to do to get by and to survive. But once the acting success came, it made music easier because now it

feels like the beginning again. It's fun again. It's fun again. I'm just doing what I want to do. I ain't got to make a record for nobody. I ain't got to try to satisfy my label. I'm like, nah, I'm Joey, and I got this going on, and I got this going on.

It's true freedom. Yeah, exactly. It's freedom. So I'm just out here doing what I want to do. It's like, you know, it's like a side chick and a main chick. That's good. No, you're talking here. You know what I'm saying?

And like, you know, a lot of times what you will find is sometimes a side chick makes you better for your main chick. This boy talking. That was Joey Badass. B-A-D-A. Not to be confused. Double dollar sign. Double dollar sign. Yeah, not to be confused with.

But, nah, he all right. Look at me, niggas. Somebody else need something. I thought he was finished. He was in the middle. I didn't want to cut him off. He was smoking. That was a dog whistle to the real niggas there. They don't understand what he talking about. Niggas heard it. Nah, he was finished He was in the middle I didn't want to cut him off He was smoking That was a dog whistle To the real niggas there

I understand what you're talking about Niggas heard it Nah he was smoking Has the film Led to more success In the music do you think? Like as far as Raising your visibility

You were doing well Before acting anyway Absolutely Like You know with this new album Especially I've been seeing a lot of Girls taking a liking to it

And it's interesting Because I didn't really make too many songs on this one, like catered to women. I mean, you know, you got the Capella Chris Brown joint, and then you got the Show Me joint. But I've been seeing girls just rocking out with the album. You know what I mean? It's like when I check, you know, the little mentions or the little tags,

it's mostly girls. DMs. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, DMs and all that. So it's definitely increased the visibility in that way, you know, the little mentions or the little tags, it's mostly girls. DMs. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, DMs and all that. So it's definitely increased the visibility in that way, you know, and then just with the role on Raising Cannon, I think it's definitely been making more people just look in my direction and wonder.

Like a lot of people was coming over, and that's why I felt, for me, that was really the goal with this project. I felt like I had to reintroduce. It was like a reintroduction to Joey Badass. You know what I'm saying? With me taking the five year gap and then doing so much in between, I was away from music. I felt like I had to show people again who I am at the core. You know what I'm saying? And that's what this project was. I wasn't trying to go for no heavy concept or anything. I was really just focused on the vibe. You

know what I'm saying? Just doing what you wanted to do. Yeah, you know, this is a lifestyle album. Lifestyle. Like, you know, everything is facts. This is just life. This is just my experience at the moment. Who took longer to turn their vocals in, Puff or Nas?

Nas. Puff was one take. Puff came in, came out. We're going to wait for him now. Yeah, it was a phone call He was like Oh you lucky nigga You just called me

On the way to the studio And you know in LA All the studios Is in the same vicinity So he just stopped At my shit real quick Laid that shit Got up out of there

He came with a Somalia And all that You know what I'm saying He walked in the room Followed by a nigga Carrying Deleon Followed by another nigga Carrying Coasters Followed by a nigga carrying Deleon followed by another nigga carrying coasters

followed by another nigga carrying the ice. Oh, man. That's how the fuck you supposed to come in. Okay, so everybody that has mentioned your new album

just says how hard it is. It's a great album. They all love it. It's a lifestyle, lifestyle album. Was there a different approach it looks like there was it sounds like it sounds like there was something like it yeah you mean yeah oh yeah for sure for sure like you know part of the the main reason why this shit took so long

for me to deliver is because i was trying to figure out where i wanted to go especially after the last album my last album being so politically charged and socially conscious you know what I'm saying I was kind of cause I knew I had to do that album trying to get away

from that shit right right you know what I'm saying no no real talk because it's like I knew I had to do that album like I was really spiritually inclined

to do that album I felt like it was it was a calling like I even had a whole moment with myself before I did that and I'm like yo you know if a calling like I even had a whole moment with myself before I did that and I'm like yo you know if you do this shit this is gonna be like a little this is the tougher path but I was like fuck it like I feel like I have to say this shit this is a

generational piece this is gonna stand the test of time you know I'm saying this is like sole purpose type of shit so I did that but after that like getting past that I'm like damn Like how do I Go back to having fun again Do I have Do I now have A heightened sense Of responsibility Do people have

A heightened expectation For me now To keep up With the socially Conscious and aware shit You know what I'm saying Because you know We all human

We all multi-dimensional That's what I'm saying But it was about Finding a way On how to do both. That's what I'm saying. But it was about finding a way on how to do both because timing is everything. Right. Especially as a musician,

as an artist. You know what I'm saying? You got your career. It's like, yo, the way I started looking at this shit and that's when my whole perspective changed

is like, the rap game is like the crack game. I came into the game, I introduced my clientele to a certain drug. You know what I'm saying? Then, for me to, you know what I'm saying?

I go OT. I go OT for a couple years. A couple months. Them years fly by in your era. They go quick, them years. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Dump quick, boom. Come back, I see mad fiends lying across the shit.

But then I'm thinking like, yo, you know what I'm saying? I'm on some Empire building shit. I'm going to get these niggas heroin now. Got some skag for them. Now they like, nigga, what the fuck is this? If we wanted heroin, we would have went down the street. We came to you for what we used to get from you. Because you had your biggest commercial hit.

We want them blue tops, nigga. You had your commercial hit on the last record, too. The Devastated record is probably your biggest single solo your biggest yeah for sure you know what i'm saying that and that shit was interesting too because that was an obvious like whoa this is not the dude sound but shit worked right you know what i'm saying so that kind of and by the way i hate that song you hate that song i fucking hate that song djs if i'm in your club don't play that song unless yous, if I'm in your club, don't play that song. Unless you want me to leave. I hate that song. One dude always hate their biggest song. I hate that shit.

You know what I'm saying? I love what it's made me. I like performing it. But I just don't like hearing it in the club and none of that type of shit because it just reminds me of a time where I was trying things and I still was learning it. And I could hear the novice-ness in it.

You know what I'm saying? I could hear the sacrifice in it, the compromise in it. You know what I mean? I don't enjoy that. I don't enjoy it. How many shows you do a year now? Well, you know,

now that we back after the pandemic, this year is probably A total of Maybe like 50 or 60 shows That's still a lot That's a lot of shows 50 so far

Or you got 50 planned out So far I've probably done Like 30 Damn So I'm like Maybe halfway through Gotcha 25, 30

And a new album just came out So you might ramp that up A little bit Yeah we got the Europe tour Coming in End of November Then we got the Europe tour Coming in End of November Then we go from Europe to Australia

In Australia And then I'ma go to Africa For a bit He's out of here Another Couple more Sky Dwellers Couple more Sky Dwellers Yeah man

Something like We've lost Joey Yeah yeah We've lost Joey No I'ma be somewhere On the yacht with you Meek and those Exactly No let's exactly no i'm trying to i'm

trying to evolve joe well i can't yes you can i want you to you're the only jbu on the block no no no please come with me pull your yacht up to mine marion pup was talking about flying she pulled her yacht up to mine i was like yeah one of. Whoa. That's a different level of fly. I'm going to St. Bart your ass right when I yacht. So now, so what do we call you now? What do you mean? What is your five-year plan? Do you foresee more rapping than acting or more acting than rapping? This is what we talk about here a lot.

We talk about how the musicians get the fuck away from music, and then they are out of here. Right. about here a lot. We talk about how the musicians get the fuck away from music and then they are out of here. Right. So that's what it kind of looks like you're on the precipice of doing.

Nah, I mean, listen, I'm not trying to go away. I'm not trying to go, I'm not trying to run away from rap. Tell your fans the truth, you. Yeah, yeah, I'm not trying to. Tell your fans the truth, your fans. He's still doing 50 Shows a Year.

Right now. I'm not trying to run away from rap. Like, honestly, I don't want to take a five-year gap like that again unless I'm really on that type of shit. Like, all right, I'm saying? I'm not trying to run away from rap. Like, honestly, I don't want to take a five-year gap like that again, unless I'm really on that type of shit. Like, all right, I'm about to just duck it to executive, running my label, signing people, putting people on.

But right now, like, I want to be a rapper. I've never wanted to be a rapper more in my whole entire life. Why? I don't know. You know what I'm saying? I just really... Because you can have fun with it now. Yeah, I can have fun with it.

I feel like I know exactly what I want to do. Like, you know, before when I was younger, it felt derogatory. I always felt like I was way smarter than that. I was way more than just being classified as a rapper. But now, I don't know. It's like a different level of security and confidence. It's the freedom, yo. The monetary...

Yeah, like I'm not chasing a check through this. So now I'm open to do Whatever it is I wanna do Exactly And I don't have to It's no pressure to Elevate

Because the other things That you're doing Are helping you elevate On it's own So the work is elevating The work As opposed to having to Figure out some

Cute shit Or whatever to pop Keep it a buck Alright They hit you with An Independence Day 20 million bag You gonna say

Peace out the rat Why would I have to say peace out the rep listen I feel like you said you don't want to take a gap yeah but I feel like where I'm at right now we haven't seen like and correct me if I'm wrong but we haven't seen a guy

in a seat since Pac like navigating both industries so well and I continue to do that I mean I plan on continuing

to do that you know what I'm saying like I feel like right now I'm writing up a new blueprint I need a nigga who's leading that shit right now

you know what I'm saying who's back like I speak to 5E all the time he's like yeah I'm trying to get on my Joey shit I'm doing films now

you know what I'm saying that's my dog shout out to them like every rapper who's now you know of today like be trying to get on my Joey shit I'm doing films now You know what I'm saying That's my dog Shout out to them Like every rapper Who's now You know of today Like be trying to transition And that

They hit my line Today rap is a stepping stone They hit my line right away Today rap is a stepping stone Nah for sure You know what I'm saying But they hit my line right away Cause they identify

They like Yo you the nigga Who doing that shit right now Like you You know what I'm saying You fucking hopscotching In between both of them. And it's like,

I plan on continuing to do that. Like, I don't, I'm not trying to just choose one. You know what I'm saying? I think it's clear that I will be able

to act forever. You know what I'm saying? Like, music is a young man's sport. Right? Well, it don't have to be. It's changing. It don't have to be,

for sure. But, you know, at the pinnacle, at the highest height. Right? I get what he's saying. And I changing for sure. It don't have to be, for sure. But at the pinnacle, at the highest height. Yeah. Right? I get what he's saying. And I'm only 27 years young. So I got at least another 10 years to do this.

One more? At a high level. Yeah. At a high level. And you've done it musically, it was all independent, right? Everything is independent? What? Your music.

Your music. You were never on a major- Yeah, yeah. In the beginning, this last album was my first major label album. Oh, this is a major label album last album was my first major label album. Oh, this is a major label album. This is the first major label album. What label? $2,000.

Columbia. Shout out to Ron Perry. Shout out to Columbia. Shout out to Lou, KC, Victoria. What is your favorite song on this project versus your favorite studio session from this project? My favorite song on this project. Don't give me the, all of them are my babies.

I know. I'm trying not to. I figured you wouldn't like that answer. No, not at all. We can get to it. My favorite song is probably Cruise Control, man. You know, just the way that whole thing came about. And I feel like it's the song that's most poised for mainstream success on the album.

How much was the Mike Will beat? A lot. You got to ask Columbia. You got to ask them niggas. I ain't got to ask nobody. Shit, I know what time it is. They dropped their bag off. Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm sure it was at least 50.

Yeah, at least. At least. But was this your favorite session? Nah, my favorite session was the baddest. Why? Because just the way it happened. Like, it was the last song I recorded for the whole album. I had the whole album.

Like, the album originally was starting from track two, Make Me Feel. But I felt like something needed to be said before that to just address the vibe, but it still had to be a little different from everything else. And I was very inspired by the Grand Poobah I Like It track, which is also from his album 2000 that dropped in 1995. That's one of my favorite hip hop songs of all time. You know what I'm saying? So I took that, ooh, and I like it.

Yeah, I put the Elder Barge joint on the hook, and then we just kind of like built something in the same tempo arena, and it became that. And once I laid the verses, and we saw what the vibe was, it felt like this little jazz club. I'm like, yo, I got to get Puff on this. I got to get Puff talking shit on this. You know what I'm saying?

And then boom, that's how we're going to kick it. How did Puff on this I gotta get Puff Talking shit on this You know what I'm saying And then boom That's how we gonna kick it How did Puff end up Being the guy that People call when they want When he wants somebody To talk shit on a record Yo cause he

He's been talking shit His whole career He got rich off Of talking shit He made a whole career He one of the best Shit talkers in hip hop The best shit talker

And now I'm him And I ain't gonna lie Yo Joe I mean you could be A testament to this, too. Like, shit talking might be a longer career than just rap. Tell me about it.

Tell me about it. I'm going on year eight of it. And that shit just flew by. You feel me? Like, you hopping straight off the yachts and shit now? Yacht master's on? Yo, Joe, why you sitting out there? What's up? You outside tonight? We could go outside. Yo, Joey, why you sitting out there? What's up?

You outside tonight? We could go outside, yeah. What's up? What you want to do? We back at Starlet's? We'll be somewhere. I got to look at the lineup and see what's going on out there tonight.

Come on, let's do it. Why you looking like that? Because you know the lineup. Because you know the lineup by heart. That's what I mean. That's why you said Starlet's. He was like, nah, he didn't want shit on him. Okay. He know where he going on the Fridays.

I'm about to make myself sound crazy. But when I say the lineup, I don't only mean the bartenders and the dancers. That's the normal lineup. I mean the staff. Who's the chef for the night? Who's cooking? Is this chef in the kitchen? Oh, she not there tonight?

Okay, word. Is Oxtails over here Starless tonight know what y'all got over here it's nasty now yo I get nasty with it you need comfort but you know all that though

that's all we saying and I'm going to find out you know what busboy there tonight and I need to know alright so tell me something about Joey Badass that none of us know

um okay or that your fans would least expect about Joey Badass tell me something that none of us know? Okay. Or that your fans would least expect about Joey Bad. Tell me something that just developed in you over the course of the year. Something new in you. Something you just learned about yourself. Oh. Something I just learned about myself.

Yeah, give it to me. We'll talk amongst ourselves until you figure it out. I got a joke. Oh, give it to me. We had a new artist on like last week and he started talking about semen retention.

And I seen an interview with you and you practiced that too. Yeah. And they tore his ass up. They tore his ass up. Who was it? Annalie Chavo? Nah.

Young dude. Courtney Bell.? Nah. Young dude. Courtney Bell. Courtney Bell. Young dude. Out of Detroit. Royce and the people. You practice semen retention? Absolutely.

How do you do that? You just retain from busting nuts. Are we cooking now? You just retain from busting nuts. That's it. We good now. It's simple. Why are you doing that?

All right, so. Spirituality. And you on TV. Yeah, I mean, you know, you could say spirituality, but really it's a health thing. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, boxers. Can't have sex. Yeah, you know, boxers.

Football players. That's where Joe came in. They'll be at you. For the added testosterone They tend to Abstain from having sex While they you know Playing or got big fights

Coming up And the reason being is that You know Your body is stronger You're more healthier You're functioning better You gotta think about it Like you know

In pause This is the biggest pause If any niggas To bust three nuts back to back, how fucking exhausted are you? Sure. You know what I'm saying? So semen retention is a very simple philosophy.

It's just doing the opposite. You're just retaining more of your energy. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not that deep. You know what I'm saying? People are like, oh, like, give you superpowers and shit like that. I mean, yeah, in a way it kind of do

because you got more energy. And when you got more energy, I mean, you can call it life force, but it just sounds funny when you say life force. It's like some Dragon Ball Z shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I'm about to go to the store and say life force. But like, yeah, when you got more energy, you know what I'm saying, you could be more highly efficient.

And it's like, what man wouldn't want that? Especially if you somebody led by purpose, like you're going to want. He said, I don't want that. You know what I'm saying? So boom, boom. Like, yeah, so sometimes, you know. So you're abstaining. Are you abstaining from sex?

Nah, absolutely not. You don't feel like you make this. There's been times, though. So you're fucking but not coming. Yeah. You know, yeah. I can't do that. They don't curse you out for that?

I mean, you know, sometimes it's like, you know, and it's funny because you really start to understand the nature of human beings, like man versus woman, right? So it's like, you know, I've had an experience where it's like, okay, boom. Like, I won't come. And she's like, yo, why you ain't coming? And I got to break out my whole spiel. My back to Africa speech and shit. A lot of lights is off. And now she's like, I don't like that.

I want you to come and shit. I mean, and my whole thing is like. Because she probably feel like less of a woman. But they're like, but hold on. Check it out now, OK? So you want me to come, all right? Are you going to swallow it? Because you want me to just.

You want me to just come into a fucking rubber coffin or just in the air leave that shit on your back that's no that's my fucking life it's a waste of my man that's a waste of me no leave it in her it's wasting my life that's a waste of me now i ain't trying to have no more kids right now so i ain't leaving nothing to nobody he's a snip you know i'm saying but if she wants to ingest that, and I feel like our energy is... She is worthy. Not even that she's worthy, because I'm really not having sex with nobody

who I don't deem worthy. Like, that's my new philosophy, too. Like, I could have sex every day, every hour of the day, but it's like, I'd rather be sharing that time and space. The unworthy ones be having some fires. I mean, yeah.

I mean, they do be having fires. You don't deserve me, ma. But, but. Yeah, that's true. Nah, that's that super wet, wet down. My man ain't lying about you, shorty. Wet and worthy. You know what I'm saying?

Like, semen retention is really just an asset to have as a man to like, you know, really maintain self-control. That's the best way you could put it. What else are you retaining out there? Out there outside the scene?

What other little rules you got, like, that you apply to life? Like, yeah, I need something. You sound like real woke. Real woke. Nah, but the niggas

that's retaining their semen, that means no masturbation. Yeah, nah, no masturbation. I don't even think I'm Joe Budden if there's no masturbation. To be honest, I don't even think I'm Joe Budden if there's no masturbation. To be honest. I don't even think I'm.

This is my opinion. This is my opinion. You trying to stop masturbating? I was going to try to do one. Well, why the fuck you don't come in here and share that with us? Because we play so much that some of these conversations. So you join in. Pause that.

Pause. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pause, pause, pause. Pause that. I don't play with him like that. That was crazy. I don't play with him like that. He lying to me too.

I just met this nigga. The turn of events is crazy. pause, pause. I don't play with him like that. That was crazy. I don't play with him like that. He lying to me, too. I just met this nigga. The turn of events is crazy. Yo, Ish, no, for real. No, we joke so much. What's going on? Pardon me. That some of this shit don't really well touch on. No, but I'm trying.

Why? Why? Kind of what he's saying. You want your life force is valuable. It just gets you in a different space. No, I'll joke to no I'm joking yo you playing see you know the funny shit

I was dead serious I agree with I agree cause I sat there and said to myself I wanna try that shit I wanna see if I can even before him

listen man I said I wanna see if I can go a month look at the way y'all niggas talking about this shit look at the way y'all niggas talk about this shit

hold on hold on look at the way y'all niggas talk about this shit first of all if anything got control, if you can't stop something, I mean, it got control over you. And the two primary. But what if you don't want to stop that? It's okay.

But you still losing, even if you don't want to stop, you still want to get yourself to a place. You just came this morning. Why are you telling me something? I'm asking this. Nigga, you trying to join the Life Force Club. You didn't say no. Nigga. Nigga, you just came an hour ago. So go ahead, get your shit on.

No, I'm like, so two things. He got it off already, Joe. I know, I know. He didn't retain it. Yo, you stupid. But what makes you want to do that? So you know I read, read. But two things. I'm dead ass. I'm trying to hear you. Yo you stupid But what makes you Want to do that Alright so you know I read read But

Two things I'm trying to hear you Yeah I'm listening Alright so two things I'm trying to make jokes You know that Like So you know I've been

On my Healthy Trying to be more healthy Trying to do it So two things Two of your Two of your carnal instincts Are eating and sex

like carnally like on a totally primitive level so if you could control what you eat and if you could control your sexual appetite then the world is your oyster almost i don't even eat no seriously your appetite and your sexual desire you can control what you Then you'll have carnal control Or you have way more self-discipline And way more control Of your own output Don't you be worried

That you're gonna like Bump into something That you shouldn't be smashing Because But that's part of the control piece Yeah but that's the control That's part of the discipline piece Now it's like

If you can control that And if you can control Yo listen man I'm a sugar fiend So if you can control How much sugar you can control I'm a sugar fiend so if you can control how much sugar you putting in your body then dog

other things are yeah cause sugar's pussy it's as addictive as cocaine or more pussy more that's a good one and there you go

you never had no pussy sweet like sugar that pussy sweet like sugar god damn it I'm trying to say some pussy real sweet That's the thing

Indeed So that's the point Wait are y'all eating pussy? Y'all eating pussy To retain semen? Hold up That's a good point That's a valid question

I'm asking a question That's a valid question But you heard no answers Alright First of all I mean I ain't saying I don't eat pussy I'm just saying

No I'm not Just eating pussy In substitution Of me not Busting the nut And coming Marks the end of I want to end this act

That part Word I don't want to The never ending Come story I ain't gonna lie That is the part That gets weird

Cause I'm finished Cause I ain't gonna lie Like you know At that point When I was a little nigga Like I really Couldn't be able to have sex After the past 15 minutes

But now like you know Now I'm older Practicing semen retention And shit It's like I'm doing hours And like my partner Is just looking at me like

My partner's looking at me like Nigga I done came already Controlling the breathing And all that shit I'm done like Nigga You done So when you go Controlling the breathing and all that shit. I'm done. You done? So when you go to Starless, it's like a dick tease.

Like, you like, oh, okay. We there with different agendas. Different motives. What's the opposite of retain? What's the opposite of retain? Like a giveaway? Yeah, I'm there for the come giveaway. I'm here to see. You're giveaway? Yeah, I'm here for the come giveaway. Detained.

I'm here to see who... You're detained. Yeah, I'm looking for distribution. Seeming detention. Oh, my God. Nah, I admire that from niggas that's mature enough to do that. I am not. And what I need to be strong for. Why do you need to be so strong when you rich?

Why do I need to be so strong when I'm rich? Because I want to get richer. I want to be strong for, why do you need to be so strong when you're rich? Why do I need to be so strong when I'm rich? Yeah. Because I want to get richer. I don't want to get much richer. I just want to be better. I'm a self-improvement junkie. So marriage is not in your future either. Nah, I'm down for marriage. You know what I'm saying?

I'm down, like, listen, I'm not against marriage and I'm not against monogamy. You know what I'm saying? But when it comes to marriage, what I'm against is the government getting involved and shit like that. That's why. I would be like, yo, look, baby, we could do the whole ceremony,

fly your family out. We could go to Jamaica. We could do the whole joint, bridesmaids, groommaids, all that, but we're not signing. We ain't signing they shit. You know what I'm saying?

Love is love. You my wife, we're going to do that. You my wife. You know what I'm saying? And the moment where this shit not gelling no more,

we should be able to walk away and separate. You know what I'm saying And the moment Where this shit Not gelling no more We should be able To walk away And separate You know what I'm saying Somebody clap please Now I'm gonna ask A question So in that

Well you got money So it's a little different For you You got money Money Nah that shit matter Because now You have enough money

Where you could go To the specific people And you could get your trust set up. You could get your shit set up to take care of your family, your kids, and all of that other stuff. Whereas the average Joe small don't have that. So it's a little more traditional route for them. Work harder. True. I'm not just talking shit.

You know I'm with it. You know what I'm saying? I'm just talking shit. You know what I'm saying? So for you, yeah, that makes sense. The governmental control and the regulations that they put on your wife and all that. Yeah, because you're right. That is a valid point.

Because with some people, marriage is, it gives them certain security. Security. Security, right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So let's say you rich or he's rich. I don't want to be just putting it on you. They both rich.

They both are. Let's say you rich. I'm not, though. Or tree. you. They both rich. They both are. Let's say you rich-ish. I'm not, though. Or Tria. Tria, yo. No, no. He gets so nervous. He act like the sheriff is here.

The two of them. They know where it is. You know where it is. They've been here. Yeah, I ain't there, nigga. But let's say Parks, right? Walks away from his wife. You know what? They've been here. Yeah, I ain't there, nigga. So, nah. But let's say Parks, right? Walks away from his wife, right?

On some bullshit, God forbid. But it gives her some security or some fallback that even if he do some fuck shit, I'ma still be entitled to something. You get what I'm saying? So, I think that when you, which is significant, either y'all could go to the necessary professionals, that'll put that in play for you. Without the government controlling it for us. Oh, yeah, for sure. And it's like, yo, if I'm going to make that choice with a life partner,

like, I'm going to, then there's definitely going to be that relationship, that communication, that understanding there where even if we separate, like, first of all, if you separating from your partner and it's disastrous that was never going to be a good relationship true fact if you can't separate amicably you shouldn't be in there in the first place you shouldn't have been there you shouldn't be there in the first place or somewhat cordially exactly it's always gonna be a little bit heartbreaking you know what i'm saying so that's rule number one You know what I'm saying So in that hypothetical situation I would imagine that

You know My partner and I Would be able to Come to some type of agreement Of what's fair You know Especially if there's like Kids involved

Or something like that You know I'm listening I gotta Yeah I don't wanna pie with Joey I'm just saying That's something we can discuss later

Gray areas Yeah yeah Because what happens is In idealistic terms Right That makes sense Theoretically But when emotions get into that

People will do shit When they emotionally charge That two years from now They could regret You get what I'm saying? And this is why we have to choose Emotionally intelligent partners But when your emotion

Emotion gotta be emotionally intelligent That's what I'm saying Yes No so full of what he was saying. Your emotional intelligence is a thing. But again, a real thing. When it's charged, people do irrational shit.

That's why we retaining our semen so we not picking the partner that it gets deep. She ain't retaining her. She ain't retaining her. Yeah, but you're picking somebody that understands your frequency. Nah, but I think women actually retain

their sexual essence more than men you know yeah because they get judged more I gotta start saying essence they get judged more

he's throwing out all that D'Angelo shit yo my man gonna be in Starless tonight talking to the bartender no we gonna be together and I'm gonna be pointing at you

he don't come. Me. I ain't got it. I'm backed up. I'm joking. You know what? When the girls is under the impression that you don't come, they want to fuck you more.

Because they're going to bring you home. They want to be the exception to me. I'm going to get out of you. Wait, you rich and you don't come? Bet. We bet. I'm going to make that. Challenge accepted.

I'm going to take something from you. Back in the day, you used to tell girls, you don't come from head. They'd be like, what? Back in the day. I was going to say, no, that's going to line up tonight. I say, hey, you know I don't come from head? Oh, my God. Let me fix that Joey I have to

You my man So I don't want to do this But I wouldn't be Doing my job Damn And I would be a phony ass Nigga if I'm bringing it up

Maybe I'm not going Here comes the bullshit Maybe I won't see This nigga at the club Go over there Nigga I'm going over there Now I think that was Drake that dropped the surprise album.

Oh, yeah. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Man, Drake, that's a big ship out there. Drake said he was dropping. And then you said you needed some more samples to get cleared from your project. So you was going to push this back a little. You know what I'm saying?

I didn't wanna bring, I didn't wanna bring it up. It was Sia's fault. But this my man, I would be phony. I would be phony if I didn't say that to his face. I'm so glad you did.

Why was you fucking lying on the internet? Saying, nah, I really gotta get my samples cleared. Alright, you want to know the truth obviously you want to guess yeah i want to know so i had no idea drake was dropping nobody did no idea and by the time we already made by the time i made that announcement first of all by

the time i made that decision obviously oh the push, by the time I made that decision, obviously, Drake was dropping. Yeah, yeah. Got it. And by the time we made the announcement, Drake hadn't announced that he was dropping yet. I had no idea. But people assume that, you know, I'm in the industry, so they're like, oh, like- Your truth don't matter.

This nigga heard that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And by the way, he's smart for that shit, because I would have did the same thing. But honestly- Yo, wait wait hold up it's you it's fucking you and Maneely

Maneely knows if a fucking Drake album is coming listen we both didn't know how could Maneely not know of a Drake album we both didn't know

it was actually Maneely who called me it was like yo we might've dodged a bullet actually cause now Drake album is coming up and I was like

get the fuck out of here. He's like, I can't say that I'm mad. That shit got pushed back. However, I did not do it. He went and found some more samples

that needed to get cleared. What actually happened, yeah, there was like a sample or two that wasn't clear, but it could have got pushed through to still make June 17th.

What actually happened was Young Guru was mixing the album. And I hope I'm not out of pocket for saying this, Guru. But his pops passed in the process of him mixing my album. And I really wanted him to mix my album. Rest in peace, Guru's pop. Love you, Guru. You know what I'm saying?

I decided to wait despite the fact that I would have to push it back. I just decided to take the heat. Because I wasn't going to put that out there. You know what I'm saying? I decided to wait despite the fact that I would have to push it back. I just decided to take the heat because I wasn't going to put that out there, you know what I'm saying, while he was dealing with that grievance right in that moment. True. You know what I'm saying?

So I'm like, yo, you know what? Sample clearances. Fuck it. I'm the bad guy. Can't go wrong with that. I'm the bad guy. Let me catch every hit. And you know what?

It still ended up into fucking free promotion because now the story was Joey pushed his shit back. Now more people know about my shit because now I'm lined up with Drake.

You know what I'm saying? What'd you thought when you seen us talking about it, man? Nah, I was crying, bro. Yo, listen, man. I don't be taking this shit personal.

You know what I'm saying? I'm a public figure. I'm free game. You know what I'm saying? A lot of public figures don't feel that way. They don't. They don't. You know know i'm saying like i'm a i'm a public figure i'm free game you know public figures don't feel that way they don't they don't like you know i'm saying i'm a i might be a topic of conversation one day yeah i might go on breakfast club and i got the stocking cap on it's a thing yeah but if you're setting to talk about if you have a relationship with a podcaster or a radio broadcaster or whoever's reporting, right? And now you see something

that is like, hey. Listen, man, like, it's a difference between commentary and blatant disrespect. Disrespect, right. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying?

A lot of people don't see that. You need to be able to separate the two. It's a lot of stuff. So it's like, if I tune in to niggas just sharing their opinion, I'm laughing.

I was laughing along. I was generally weak because i'm like yo like it's so funny it's like this it looks like what it looks like it looked like the pushed this back because of trank and you know what for me that aligned because i was still a topic of conversation for a couple of days you know what i'm saying and how the internet works that's that's a play for him that's it you know what i'm saying it's cool but like if internet works. That's a play for him. You know what I'm saying? It's cool. But if I see a nigga disrespect me on the internet, like, oh, yeah, that nigga pussy.

Boom, boom, boom. That's different. Right. You know what I'm saying? I never fuck with this bitch ass nigga. It's like, whoa, we not on music. We not on it. That's what I used to...

Remember Ish and me, we had the conversation? That's what I would always say. Like, yo, it's one thing to just give your opinion on something. Oh, yeah. And it's another thing to be completely just disrespectful. give you an opinion on something. Oh, yeah. And it's another thing to be completely just disrespectful.

But I see where they used to be wanting to kill you, Ice, because your power on black Twitter back then was huge. Your platform was huge. You would just come out and be like, yo, this nigga shit trash. It was like, who is this nigga? But no, they would listen. He was affecting niggas' album sales. You just got to listen when fans listen. When enough fans is reacting to Ice from Newark, New Jersey.

It's like, all right, dog. Who's this nigga affecting things at my release? Yeah, and now I can't wait to catch that nigga on the dark alley. Let's get 10 seconds of silence. I want a rapid fire at Joey Badass before he goes. I want everybody just rapid fire at this nigga since he's so profound with answering questions. I'll start.

Do you have a smart toilet? Yes. He's out of here, yo. Hold up. I wasn't ready for that. Yo, he fucked me. He's out of here, yo. He's out of here, yo.

What the fuck the smart toilet do? It wash your ass. You bum. Wash your balls. It's levels. It's levels. And then they got a raise, yo, so you can order

a smart toilet. Oh, I'm done with that. I'm done with that. Earn the raise. Earn the raises. Topics, performance, tone, like earn the raise. All that just asking.

I wasn't at the mixer. Didn't get an invite. Oh, man. But that's what I didn't understand about me not getting invited to the mixer. If I had a boss, and I'm off of this because I'm not. Because I'm not. If I had a boss who I knew wasn't gone and gone, I 1,000% would invite him.

Yes. It just looks good, especially if I like the boss. Put your hands up. So, yeah, Smart Toilet. You got a smart toilet. When you get that? I just moved it to my new crib

in June. Some applause. Yeah, yeah. Homeowner. Well, he said new crib. He might have downgraded. Don't matter. He got a smart toilet.

He laughed at it, though. You think I downgraded? I don't. No. I don't. I was just putting it by the rim. And he just got the new crib.

Lil' Chris Paul. He ain't had a smart toilet before the new crib. He got the new crib to not come. All right. I'll get my second question. I'll toss it around to the room. Everybody comes and says they're top five rappers of all time. I'm going to ask you who the top five trash rappers of all time to you is top five niggas that

it's just like man man you can find a media savvy way to get up out of the question good luck buddy but i gotta entertain the fans i mean i don't i don't even know if I'm in tune with enough trash rappers like this. To measure their level of trashiness. I feel you. That's right. You know what I'm saying? That was good. That was good. Now that's true.

Back against the ropes like Ali. What y'all got for him? What y'all got for him? Turn it up on him. Turn it up on him. There's Unique, dog. Yo, don't answer that. Fuck him.

Don't answer that. You don't watch the show. I don't answer that. Fuck him. Don't answer that. You don't watch the show. I don't watch the show. I don't watch the show. I watch it. Religiously. If I tell this podcast, I got to kill everybody who watched the podcast. You're right.

That's a lot of people. Including the people who do the podcast. Fifth would be tight, too. They're going to kill us over that check. That's ass. Listen. D, get rid of us for that check. That's a good check. That's a nice check. We, get rid of us for that check. That's a good check.

That's a nice check. We can't go on with this 5,000th episode. Just a piece of that check will put this whole room away. See? See? See?

See? All right. You'll kill this whole room. I get it. Yo, listen. I understand. Yeah, you know. I got to work harder.

I got to work harder to kill me. Come on, y'all. What's up with Pro Era? Pro Era? Man, all my homies'all. What's up with Pro Era? Pro Era? Man, all my homies is good. You know what I'm saying? My boy Chuck, my boy CJ, Nick, Kirk doing his thing, you know.

Everybody doing their thing, trying to navigate. I let everybody out their deals. Everybody's independent. Oh, everybody's free. Free to do their thing. That's what's up. Everybody's free agent. Album question for you

Which is the current trend In hip hop Will you be looking At a deluxe? I'm thinking about Doing some type Of deluxe structure But what I'm leaning

More towards right now Is dropping songs In the frequency of 2000 Like every three weeks or so And just adding it to the album Okay Cause you know, we got that like Liberty Now

and Play It Round. Yeah, whatever the industry is. Rather than just doing the traditional here's the deluxe at one time like here's six, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying to just

keep the attention on 2000 and maybe just add a few more records to it. No, no, no. I feel you on that. How many women you ever had in the roster at one time? Most women ever had in a roster at one time? Most women you had in a roster at one time?

Nah, I feel what you were saying. Probably, you know, in my younger days. Younger days. You're 27. You're 27, by the way. Before my senior retention, before it was a big thing for me to be honest and, you know,

transparent. Maybe about five. How long you been rich? how long I been rich? that's invasive well now that's a good question because I think I've been rich

for longer than I known I was rich but I didn't accept being rich he killing y'all he is smoking y'all and the most you had was five

at one time? shorties? like when you say y'all he is smoking y'all food and the most you had was five at one time shorties like when you say a roster elaborate at one time elaborate

like keeping up with five genres not that you're yeah keeping up with all of them one setting yes like all together

entertaining five the most women at once oh bro you saying one setting about like five six yeah I could let me just shut up entertaining five five the most women at once oh well you saying what about like five six yeah i could i could let me just shut up dumbest purchase as a uh entertainer

your dumbest purchase as an entertainer i bought this chanel chain when i was like 18 or 19 from cory vintage frames and he's a good guy but fuck you Corey I was like 18, 19 I bought a Chanel Vintage

light bulb chain from this nigga for like 5 bands cause you be shining bright I see what you was trying to say something like that I was woke

and in the light symbolism symbolism you know I bought the Chanel fucking light bulb Vintage chain It was dumb

You know It was stupid At least it was only five Yeah At least it was only five But that was deep for me back then No doubt I was like

Damn I just dropped five bands On an item A single item Word That doesn't enhance my life I know Like the leather band

Sky Dwell And like that And this bad boy right here Leather band item that doesn't enhance my life. No, like the leather band, Skodwell. And like that. And this bad boy right here. Leather band. Leather band. Oh, no, I see the leather band. He won't. That nigga's mature.

That nigga's mature. And I see the buckle on the back. That's alligator. Nice little buckle on the back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I seen it. Nice buckle on the back. You seen right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

See what he said? That's alligator. That's alligator. I know. This is about eight of those damn stupid light bulbs. Alligator. I think that's grown, grown. Yo, you start coming in with the leather band, you have transcended hip hop. That's TV money right there. I got older cousins and shit, and it's like, you know, I'm the younger cousin, but it's

like, I'm the older cousin. So when I came with this shit, they're like, boy, why you got that shit? You should have got some shit with some diamonds bust down. And then I went like this, and they're like, boy, why you got that shit? You should have got some shit with some diamonds bust down. And then I went like this. And they was like, oh, all right. All right. That shit is nice, though. That's classic.

Good looking. You just got to tell them soon. You'll understand. This the one that, you know what I'm saying? You at the bar. You at the little speakeasy joint. The nigga who just got off from Wall Street. Like, yo, that's a nice watch, man.

It's a nice time piece. It's called time piece. It's a time piece. It's a time piece. Oh, that's a nice watch, man. It's a nice timepiece. It's called a timepiece. It's a timepiece. Not even a watch, timepiece. Oh, that's networking. Best networking you've ever done. We just went to a spot, some random person started talking to you,

and he happened to own Lionsgate, and now we're having a different conversation. Different conversation. Word. Rooms and tables, man. It's all a game of rooms and tables. And you got to bring your A game to the rooms and to the tables. to bring your a game to the rooms

and to the tables what is that what your your a game man it's just it's preparation because i was just talking about and this is probably on a lower level but maybe not weaponizing a smile like the greek freak smile the magic johnson smile the smile and what that can do like that's kind of what you talk because you have that too It's deeper than the smile, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, it transcends smile, and then it goes to charm. And then it transcends charm, and then it goes to networking and your ability to keep up and to keep a bridge functional.

Because, you know, bridges don't just burn because you do something so drastic. Sometimes they just burn from- Not keeping up. No contact. Okay. You know what I'm saying? From just space and time and radio silence. So you got to be able, and these are things I've learned over the years, right? Because when I was 17, 18 years old, I didn't give a fuck about talking to nobody. I was in Germany for the first time, and I was just happy I was in Germany I wasn't even thinking

That I'll come back here one day Maybe I should lock in with this dude Maybe I should lock in with You know what I'm saying? I wasn't even thinking like that I'm just like nigga I was in high school a couple months ago Now I'm in Germany

You know what I'm saying? So like as you go Through the journey You kind of realize And like One of my biggest takeaways That I always try to give The younger artists is,

you got to be careful of how you're treating people on your way up. Facts. Because you never know who you're going to run into on your way down. So like,

when you're opening up for niggas on tours and shit, you're at these venues and you're meeting these stage hands and these different crew members, and then two years later, you're on your own tour,

and these motherfuckers remember you for being a fucking punk imbecile Or some type of shit Now they don't give a fuck About your show Now your microphone

Fucking Just little shit Just you know karma Even someone opening up for you And then they turn out To be a star later down the line You might want to do Something with them

Nah word up Word up You know I've even learned Lessons like that Like you know just And not even intentionally But you know you just You live and you learn

Like I ain't gonna to do this one. You know, I'm not in the mood. And then, damn, this shit take off. Like, Location with Khalid. Yeah. I was asked to be on that shit before Little Wayne. I was supposed to be on the remix. And I passed up on that shit.

Like, I didn't even pass up on it. I just didn't have the initiative to get it done in the time it needed to get done. So, I missed the opportunity. Joey Badass. Somebody called my phone three weeks ago to tell me about the money that Khalid has generated for his record label. I won't repeat it.

Could have been a percentage of my earnings. But it's nine figures. Khalid. And I know he's big. But what definitely puts things into perspective when you realize that this one act has made

$200 million. And also when you realize that nobody who you know is in the demographic. Puts the world... Nobody in this room is in the Khalid demographic. Correct me if I'm wrong. I buy it, but he ain't making it for me. It don't smell like it.

It don't smell like y'all niggas listening. We was just having that similar conversation. Yep. You know what I'm saying? So it's like anything is possible. And that's another thing I had to learn is like, just because throughout this five-year gap, I started to make a lot of music in the direction of

me wanting to please the people who was in the room for me. But I had to learn that none of the people in the room were my fans. You know, they my people. Don't get me wrong. I could go to them for opinions. Life advice. You know, life advice. I could even go to them for opinions. Life advice. You know, life advice. No, I could even go to them for opinions on a song.

Right. But I got to understand when I'm doing that, they're not the demo. Yeah, they're not your person. They're hearing it more from a casual listener perspective. Right, right. So I got caught up in that because I wanted to please these people who was right next to me. You know what I'm saying? And I kind of got jaded.

And, you know, sometimes you got to be reminded of that like yo ain't nobody in the room gotta fuck with what you're doing as long as you got an audience for what you're doing that you can connect to you know i'm saying that's a tough battle right there because naturally you want people around you to be into what you want you know what i'm saying but you kind of just got to be on what you on and make sure that you into it because that's what drop other people into it's kind of a great segue to my next question tell me about your worst bout with self-doubt my worst bout with self-doubt um i would professionally professionally i would say you know it was kind of over these last five years you know i'm saying

like one of the biggest reasons why it took me so long to to put out the album like when you go such a long time without releasing it and when you break that chain of consistency that invites a lot of doubt it invites a lot of pressure you forget what the dialogue is between you and your consumer or you and your listener. You know what I'm saying? So it literally became about like, damn, if I can't get the stamp of approval from the people next to me, then my shit is weak. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, these people are not listening to the type of music I'm listening to on the regular.

They listen to what they listen to. You know what I'm saying? And that might be whatever. It might be Lil Rozy. Maroon 5. It might be Lil Durk. It might be Maroon 5. It might be Sade.

Whatever it is. But I'm Joey Badass. But I'm Joey. You know what I'm saying? And that's what I had to realize. It's like, yo, you got an identity. And early in my career, that was a hard battle for me. I hated that people were just thinking that I was just a 90s boom bap revivalist.

I hated that from the pits of my soul. That's what I thought. I'm an artist in every sense of the word. Like, I really got range. I can experiment. But what I had to learn is my brand identity is not aligned with certain experiments or certain directions I might want to go with sonically. And then it's like, all right, boom. So we use the drug dealer analogy.

Now let's use the restaurant analogy. You go to your favorite restaurant. They got the special dish. It's the fettuccine. They take the fettuccine off the motherfucking menu. You're like, what the fuck are we coming here for?

You know what I'm saying? The tagliatelle is cool. The spaghetti is cool. But I want the fettuccine. I want the fettuccine. I've been coming here for the fettuccine. You know what I'm saying?

So once you serve the fettuccine now, it's like, okay, everybody's satisfied. Now here's some compliments from the chef. You know what I'm saying? Now, here's some kudos.

Try this. I get that. Here's some octopus. That is a great analogy. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? And it's interesting, too. How could you be mad at courtesy of the chef?

Right. How could you be mad at that? Whatever it is, thank you. And 2000, that's what 2000 was. 2000 was an album full of fettuccine. There was two experimental dishes on there. It was called Welcome Back, which is the song I made for you. My nigga.

Because there's a lot of songs. So my demographic, my fans, they hate that song. I bet they do. They fucking hate that song. I bet they do, yeah. My moms hate that song. But then again it's like I don't blame her

she don't want to hear her son talking about life you know what I'm saying talking like that she don't want to hear her son saying I ate it like I had a big appetite

especially not retaining semen and then my fans and then my fans and then my fans is like you gotta understand my fans they been with me

from 1999 so they don't even Look at me as a nigga Who get bitches They don't even look at me As that They like I dealt with that

My whole career too They like you talking about sex That's why I just kept Knocking them down They like you a conscious nigga Why you talking about sex I was rapping about depression But I'ma knock them down

Oh y'all not In case y'all not feeling What I'm saying Watch this She have to reason up the press what I'm saying, watch this. She half the reason I'm depressed. But I'm a smacker. But there's a thin line

between being an artist and being a brand. You know what I'm saying? One is realizing, okay, yeah, you could experiment. You could show these different sides of yourself.

And then one is being aware of what people want to see from you or what they are willing to accept from you but just because i do something that's different doesn't mean it's not good it just means that my clientele was not ready for that they wasn't prepared for that so sometimes it's great lengths you gotta go like like i gotta plant seeds before i do certain moves right i gotta make it make sense you know

what i'm saying like if i'm gonna do a drill record Maybe I gotta plant a seed Like oh yeah Like Joey and Fabio is cool Like Joey and Fabio Are actually from Brooklyn And they know a lot of the same people They're actually connected You guys would never know that

You know what I'm saying But once you introduce that idea Then after the song come It's like oh That makes sense It makes sense These niggas hang out with each other. But when shit come out of left field from a nigga who is identified as like, oh, he's this.

And he's doing something that's over here. It's like, what the fuck? This is wrong. This is against. This is not right. I hate that. They almost look at it like, oh, you're chasing that. It's like Louis Vuitton dropping $30 sneakers.

You'd be confused. I hate that. I ain'titton dropping $30 sneakers. You'd be confused. I hate that. I ain't getting them fucking $30 sneakers. I'm definitely not. I would. Yes. Not me. We know.

No, we know. Hey, Steph, I'm already putting out some $19 sneakers. I'll skip right over that. We'll hop step right over that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, do it for the less fortunate. I'm a Euro step right past you. Yeah, I, yeah. Hey, do it for the less fortunate. I'm a Eurostep right past you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm not getting this. That's funny. They didn't even look too bad, but we just wasn't rocking it. I'm not wearing nothing. They was too cheap. That's so shallow and nasty. I know. It's terrible.

But I'm up, nigga. Suck my ass. Yo, as an artist, you don't find that... Like, how did... Y'all artists. How did people like Jay and them, or they just got to a level where they could just do what the fuck they wanted to do outside of what the fan thought that they should be doing? Nah, man. Even Jay is a perfect example.

Jay has been planning to seize his whole career. True. His first album on the cover, he has a fucking suit on. So it's not even outlandish by album three to think of this nigga as a real businessman he's been telling us the whole time he's been painting that he was a fucking hustler and not just the on the block corner hustler i'm oh i'm this level of hustler empire enterprise and i'm gonna apply this throughout the rest of this and meet me at the end we'll see what it turned into you made me make another one cause I'ma do this yeah but had he never

planted those seeds had he just came across as like a MC as a rapper or just a grimy dirty grimy I tell y'all

this is what Hov says why you don't say this shit oh I've been saying it like yo you don't see Jadakiss running the label today but none of his legacy is taken from him

you know what I'm saying but like that just wasn't The seeds that he planted You feel me He planted the seeds As being one of the best rappers And he's still And you can find me on the block

Any day And he's still keeping that up To this day To this day Brand Brand Brand Brand identity

Coca-Cola You feel me It's like you gotta be in line Like brand identity Is one of the best things You can have For people to be able to Break you down into a sentence is one of the best things you could have. Really?

Absolutely. Hell yeah. I would think it would be a curse, not a gift. I thought that as well. Because somebody to compartmentalize you, when somebody just puts out one sentence and it's identifying you, then that restricts your ability to pivot or to tangent into something else. How?

Every lane got value. Yeah, but it's like, yo, if I can't... How? If I can't describe your audience, who are you selling to? Right. True.

No, that makes sense. Where's your dollar coming from? No, I'm saying, but you said, yo, somebody needs to be able to describe Joey Badass in one sentence. For the most part.

For the most part. So now let's say this other demo that is representative of $300 million for you. Right? Long term. Demo? What do you mean by demo? Demographic.

Okay. Right? Could potentially yield you $300 million over a 10, 15 year span. If that one sentence don't necessarily identify identify or is not relatable to them you lose out on that no no no because look at khalid khalid not losing out on not making us fans yeah but he don't hold on let me put that demo that he is let me give you let me give you a different example so who's to say who's to say okay so let's say? Go to your J.D. Okay, so let's go Let's do Khalid Khalid versus Little Dirk

No, go to your Kiss example Kiss is a better one Right Right So Kiss Put himself here Right That's his

I'm standing on who I am Now potentially He cannot And I'm saying potentially Y'all more Knowledgeable about this than I But now he can't necessarily Go over there And get those bags that are possible.

No, but they can because they can't. Him could, though. Yeah. Well, the thing is, those bags don't even exist for kids. Yeah, they're not meant for you. So he don't even identify as him missing out on those bags. They're not meant for you. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. He's in his own bag. What I'm saying is I want them all. I want a sample of all of them. Someone from the shiny suit RV wants some gutter shit. You could want it all. The top guy in that brand. Right.

And everybody naturally wants it all. But you see, when you start doing that, you know, you fall for anything, you stand for nothing. My brand for mad years was built on hate. They don't know the people that's typing. They don't know where you're from. They don't know the people that's typing. They don't know where you from. They don't know who you are. They don't know how you feel about shit. All they looking at is numbers and metrics and engagement.

There are 300 million people that type the name Joe Budden per week. That's the brand. They don't know me personally. But if they can say, remember I tell y'all, all you got to do is evoke emotion. Get them to feel something.

And that's the brand. Whether they love you or hate you, your brand is evoking something and there's value. How it started? Exactly.

Kodak Black. A million of them. There's a million of them. You just talked about me. Kodak Black. Me. Ice. Me.

Prime example. Niggas didn't know nothing about me prime example nothing about me but his brand was valuable off hey we don't fuck with what you're saying well that means you know what I'm saying yeah same thing we don't fuck with you oh well that's my empire yeah yeah yeah yeah I'll keep going until somebody fucks with me Floyd Joe joe budden floyd floyd is a prime example they sold fights every single fight he was also undefeated though but no but they always had him right being this braggadocious loudmouth nigga eating chicken wings while he jogging and then the screen flips and you see no no shot but you see the hispanic guy chopping trees family man taking his mother

to church and we gonna paint that narrative and y'all gonna buy tickets to my shit just to see him beat me i hope he beat his ass yeah great example the muhammad ali model same shit great example people paying for tickets just to see this nigga get destroyed yeah yeah it never happens and then it don't so we don And the next one be the one. Listen, haters is as great of a customer as the motherfucking lovers of your shit.

That's what I love. If not better customers. Or bigger. Yeah. Better, because niggas will hate you longer than people love you. Niggas will hate you

for like one, two, three, four, And a two and in. And a two and in to make sure you falling and you ain't falling. Niggas are investing to your downfall. Yes.

That's all they want to see. You up here smoking and shit, man, hold up, man. Investing to your downfall. Yes,

they will. Nah, it's nuts. So on you to flip that. Dan, do I have any more tough questions for Joey? I think,

I think Joe is done with his rapid fire for Joey. This guy is a gangster, the gentleman. Yeah, 27. Smooth guy is a gangster and a gentleman. Yeah, 27. Smooth as can be.

Renaissance, man. To be 27. Actor, rapper. You know, when I had my Joey badass line, and then it got back to me that you didn't like the line, what everybody said to me was, yo, dog, this is the nicest, sweetest guy that you'll ever meet in the world. What was the line again?

It's only one Joey that's badass. And that was me. Hey, yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. No, but this guy, one of the most well-respected. Just a, I don't have enough good things to say about Joey badass and that's not because he is sitting next to me this is in plenty of circles your your name card is excellent out here and as a nigga whose name card hasn't been the greatest at times I understand the value in

that and the gift in that and the work that it takes to keep that like that. So I just want to give you your utmost respect, your flowers, the love that you deserve, and thank you. Thank you. Just thank you. Thank you, guys, man.

Thank you. Thank y'all for having me. We need more niggas like this. We do. Seeming retention. Oh, knock it, though. That's what got you there? Knock it, though.

That's what got you there? Knock it, though. That's what got you there? That took your levels up? All right, so before, when's the last time you came? Before you go, pause. Yo, whoa. semen retention oh knock it the fuck off knock it the knock it the fuck off I took your levels up alright so before when's the last time you came before you go pause yo whoa

I said pause ain't enough pause you need to stop you need a stop button nah or homo it might be it might be like you know what I'm saying

one or two people out there who might not like my alright so nevermind nevermind keep it keep it keep it keep it ladies ladies and gentlemen

i'm not sure the demographic out there so i can't i can't the incredible joey badass album in your phone right now oh tv star rap star oh i had a question before you left imagine your best year financially that you've had, and then tell me about your conversation with your accountant on tax time. Okay, so this might have been like two years ago, and I was like, pay that shit. For real? Pay that shit.

Pay every fucking cent. I don't want to owe the IRS not a damn thing. This nigga's way more mature. Pay that shit. Pay every fucking cent. I don't want to owe the IRS not a damn thing. This nigga's way more mature. Pay that shit. I want to kill my account. I want to kill my account. Listen, me and my accountant, me and my accountant,

we have a great relationship. It's not fair. You got Manili with you. That's not fair. That's a Chico. And a part of it was like, you know, my accountant, I'm sure he identifies me as somebody who's kind of holistic and spiritual in my beliefs because, you know,

sometimes I would just be on some, like, I don't care what's in my account because I know what's on my heart and on my mind. Yo, get out, yo. Get out, yo. I'm going to kick it out. Ladies and gentlemen, I don't want to get to that level. I want to be the level underneath that.

I'm dead ass, though. You know what I'm saying? I know what's in my heart. I'm going to be right here, though. The essence. Yo, I'll be on some shit like, yo, like, I know I'm like, whatever. I'm vibrating in a frequency where

I'm going to attract money. You know what I'm saying? So I'm not even worried. I'm not even worried. That's how I feel, dead ass. On game. Yeah, that's how I feel. You know what I'm saying? I'm not not even worried. I'm not even worried. That's how I feel, that ass. On gang. Yeah, that's how I feel.

You know what I'm saying? I'm not even worried. I'm going to be like 90 feet under that. I got to start using all these neo-soul words this nigga got. Essence,

frequency, vibration, ground rising, rich rising. No, I'm vibrating on a different frequency now. Joey,

thank you for stopping by. We love you. We appreciate you. I got two, man. Open seat by. We love you. We appreciate you. Open seat here. Anytime you want to come here. For sure. And that's that on that, man. We outside tonight. Now I know y'all in the

fucking basement in Queens. Whoa, whoa, whoa. He said, whoa, whoa, whoa. He said, why you giving him that? He can say what he want. We moving. Tomorrow. We moving. We out of here Soon as I get back from Greece

Yo listen First of all Queens is a big place You know what I'm saying That's true And there's not enough space For y'all Brooklyn vs. Queens vs.

Brooklyn vs. Queens vs. There's not enough space For y'all and Unique In this motherfucker anyway You know what I'm saying And yo Rock You had to get up Out of here anyway

Last one Brooklyn vs. Queens vs. Brooklyn Fuck it What KRS said What KRS said I'm going to rock. You had to get up out of here anyway. Last one, Brooklyn versus Queens versus? Brooklyn. Fuck it. I'm surprised. What KRS said? What he said? Brooklyn get the, I don't remember what he said.

Brooklyn keep on taking it, nigga. You know what he said. Nah, that wasn't Brooklyn that was taking it. Brooklyn keep on taking it, nigga. Yeah, Brooklyn keep on taking it. The bridge is over. Yeah. No.

It was Brooklyn keep on taking it. It was. It was. What? I know that one You think I forgot You know Brooklyn had All the dirty robbers

You think I forgot nigga Brooklyn keep on taking it Nigga we still taking it That's it That answer might change Without holding big But fine leave it I'll leave it

Alright We out We out That was great yo He's one of my favorite people In the music business honestly Yo All right. We out. We out. That was great, yo. He's one of my favorite people in the music business, honestly. Yo. That was super dope.

That was crazy. People. When I talk about people. Yeah, humans. I don't really be like. Humans. Not music, not brands, not business, not what they put out. They fans. People.

Mm-hmm. People. I don't really be like saying like, damn, I look forward to talking to certain people. Yeah. I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that. Me too.

You know what's the real dope part? I felt like we could talk to him for about two, three, four, five minutes. About all different types of shit. He 27. Yeah. That shit gives you hope for,

you know what I'm saying, for us and our future shit. He 27. We old, nigga. No. I said hope for us. Hope for the future. Yeah. For young black people like this nigga 27. I 27. We old, nigga. No. Hope for us. Hope for the future. Yeah.

For young black people like this nigga 27. I thought he was older, honestly. No, he 20, and he following some great footsteps. Yeah, no doubt.

He might have rewinded his age. That's what he did. I ain't mad at that. I hate that TV show. I'm 25. The odometer. I ain't mad at that. Roll the odometer back.

Shout out to Joey Badass, man. We are ending this. I am ending with Tank and CB, Beezy Breezy Hive. Y'all know what it is. Y'all see the fucking meet and greet pictures. Y'all know what we doing out here. Oh, you see, you see.

They're copying that. Oh. They was going to copy it. Everything in this business is created to be copied. That's true. Once y'all have a better understanding of that, you'll feel all alright about it. Nice.

Those pianos have never lost. Love waking up to a waistline. out the date night, sail you to St. John's Been in the long ride, light boys on front lines You gon' see another side, I got you drivin' And I know that we both, hazy each other We'll be deep in the storm, It's gon' be harder sometimes We'll make it out if our hearts are right I live for the moments with you when nobody's around Growing with you, letting go of myself No reason to be a girl as safe as it's hot Be transparent with me And make it easy to see

Through love Love Gotta see through love Chris don't play no games on that second verse action Don't send him nothing and leave the second verse open You crazy Try to be a better me Got a man crazy give you emotional

Hear it in your voice, yeah you're not okay Come in class like the gang when the home runs in the same minute All my running is raised by your side I'm in front of the home with you, with nobody around In the road with you, land on the sand You're low with me, girl ain't sleepin' this time Let's sing, girl, let's sing Stay with me, make it easy to see through love See through love Gotta see through love All I can see Oh, oh, I can see through your love

You see from the start, you can see what I'm made of Everything we see looks perfect to me How could you be put together perfect for me? We can say what we're supposed to be with both eyes closed I have had a moment with you when nobody's around Roaming with you and I know myself Roaming with me, girl ain't safe in this town I'm gonna sing, I'm gonna sing I'm gonna sing through the love Girl, I'm gonna sing through the love

I'm gonna sing through the love Girl, I'm gonna sing through the love Girl, I'm gonna sing through the love Yeah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh That's brand new Tank featuring Chris Brown That record is called See Through off of his project R&B Money In your phones right this second, shout out to Tank, friend of the show Hey Doom, doom, doom Doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom Doom, doom, doom. Doom, doom, doom, doom, doom.

Doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom. Doom, doom, doom. Doom, doom, doom, doom, doom. It still ain't called Brian McKnight name in the verses. It's all right. It's all right. Brian McKnight versus Joe. What y'all waiting on?

Oh, y'all waiting on to get paid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They waiting on to get paid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They waiting on to know if there's going to be verses. Yeah, never mind. They got verses, man. There's some other things at play still. Yeah, yeah. They got to wait a little bit.

Get in the cut. Chill out, chill out, chill out. Be patient. Alright, this... Next up. This record is 7 Pounds of Pressure by Lil Murda. Yo, this shit was hard. Oh my God, yo.

Nah, that shit kind of came off. What was hard, the song? Yeah. Or something else? Yeah, think about what it's gonna take, yeah. What was hard, Ice? The song. Oh, that's it?

Cliff. Just the song? Cliff was hard? No. All the dollars in the world ain't goddamn going back to the seven pounds of price Let's talk about motherfucking pressure now, fuck Ice is crazy, yo

Why am I crazy on this shit? I don't know, I don't watch this show I put a hole in a hole, motherfucking, I ain't feel shit I'm a beast, I'm alive, better pray I don't empty that clip Niggas be out here lying, talking about their killers and shit Little Mississippi murder, might still be blood on my shirt Same nigga I see off in the club, same nigga gon' be in the hearse Might catch that pussy nigga outside, put his ass in the dirt

I done seen so many niggas die and some niggas deserve it I keep that.45 on my left side, nigga, makin' me nervous I got the seven pounds of pressure Seven pounds of motherfuckin' pressure All it take is just a second Yeah, I got that seven pounds of pressure Seven pounds of pressure on the dresser All it take is just a second The fire was gold, take the kill, nigga All you really need is seven pounds of pressure

All the dollars in the world ain't banked, Kyle They gone mouth to seven pounds of pressure Hot nigga with a cold soul, bitch, the realest it get And I ain't runnin' from shit, remember I couldn't pay rent So I run up in your shit instead of stayin' with my bitch And I ain't gon' stay with my bitch, better hit me a lick Now a nigga gettin' rich, there don't murder, ain't playin' Bout to fall out with my niggas, bout to stick shit they sayin'

Ain't no heaven for no thugs, nigga ain't no use to me prayin' But only God can judge me, nigga what the fuck you sayin'? Yeah I got the seven pounds of pressure Yeah I got the seven pounds of pressure Seven pounds of motherfuckin' pressure All it take is just a section All it take is a Beat everything about what it's gold Take a kill, nigga All you really need is seven pounds of pressure All the dollars in the world and bank account

They ain't goin' back till the seven pounds of pressure Beat everything about what it's gold Take a kill, nigga All you really need is seven pounds of pressure All the dollars in the world ain't banked out They gone out to a seven pound depression Tell me, you came up from the mud They label you as a thug Selling dope and shooing slugs, washing up a nigga blood Get killed or be a killer, I'm cold hearted and wicked Is this the life that I'm living?

Falling victim to a culture we sinning like we supposed to Them demons keep gettin' closer, a product of young vibe Thuggin' ain't no retirement, knowin' I'm livin' wrong I'd rather be dead or gone Now tell me everything about what it's gon' take to kill a nigga All you really need is seven pounds of pressure All the dollars in the world in your bank account Are never gonna matter to the seven pounds of pressure Now tell me everything about what it's gon' take to a nigga, all you really need is seven pounds of pressure

All the dollars in the world in your bank account, they're gone mild to the seven pounds of pressure You hear everything about what it's gonna take to kill a nigga, all you really need is seven pounds of pressure All the dollars in the world in your bank account, they're gone mild to the seven pounds of pressure All the dollars in the world And banked out there Going out to the seven pounds of pressure Now R&B singers got to respond, man. He even put a bridge on his shit. That's hard. That shit's hard.

I don't want to like it, but it's hard. Nah, that shit's hard. I ain't want to either. I ain't going to hold you. Yeah, that's good. When that shit came on, the other one was like, hold up. If I was watching the show

and that song came on, I'd be like, whoa, he caught one. That shit gave me the hot bounce. No, the wild shit is that song came on, I'd be like, whoa, he caught one. That shit came in. But the wild shit is that's like the fourth one that he caught over the last two seasons. Is it the actual actor

that's rapping it? Do you know? Yes. Wow. J. Alphonse Nicholson, I think his name is. He's the rapper, but I think this one

was written by, I think Deontay Hitchcock did this one. You like his performance scenes? Here you go. I just, I forget who he is. I'm just a fan of the show.

I'm just a fan of the show. All right, Parks. The stage presence. I'm playing me. It's been kind of quiet outside, so I I just, I forget it. I'm just a fan of the show. I'm just a fan of the show. All right, Parks. I'm playing me. It's been kind of quiet outside, so I'm just playing me, man. Fuck it.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's that live band shit. Live band shit. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

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Get the message, my rhymes are clear Too busy chasing cash, ain't got no time to spare Them commas near, more money than more problems, yeah I dish it out, dissolve it, cheer, the bars are rare Pro level, no novice here, best artist here They starstruck, that awkward stare Still hood, the cartridge near, don't walk in here That yellow caution tape, they getting chalked in here

Don't talk in here, this shit like talking practice I'm a marksman here, I park them near They scared, don't want no parts in here, got parks in here That's worth a gift, my shit a gift, nail in the coffin here, I break bread with my people, make sure the portion fair, I'm with a business, body's pretty as a Porsche Carrera, I be wild and like I'm Tommy, but I'm more sincere, be quiet when the boss is near, and niggas with real money, don't do no flaws in there, bring the chorus here, all night in the area, Now let the people say Now let the people say

Now let the people say Shout out to the death threats So cold money on my head, oh that's your best bet Gon' come for me, I'm waitin' under your deathbed To catch your body, to free your mind, to pass the time I ain't never been arrested, ah Try to stay positive, fuck it, what's your blood type? God's prepared a place for your thug life If heaven got a ghetto, this your welcome home rug Wipe your feet, stay offline, beefing on the neck I'm a vet, ain't here to thug type I'm at your mac, with this mac, I pull your plug like

I'm your father at your rap show Here to tell you it's a rap bro, get your ass back in the house White cracked open, outside you inside, I'm here to drag you out Sneaking out the back of the house, I'm by the back door With that bravado in my belt, but I don't need that strap though This that holy tabernacle, I'm by the back door with that bravo in my belt but I don't need that strap though this that holy tabernacle I'm passing that collection plate I ain't here to act stole no believers never

had the faith now let the people say that's Hallelujah David Bars featuring Passport GIF produced by me sorry GIF produced by me you hear him though he said it nice and calm like nigga we heard you I'm just worried about GIF produced by me you hear him though he said it nice and calm like nigga we heard you I'm just worried about GIF man

they ain't let GIF rap on the track since they met this Joey Bars kid David Bars David Badass I just wanna hear from GIF GIF sound good on there man GIF what you got for us come on what little 19 year old

you found from somewhere with a spin two spins haters haters cause I got it in my favorites here it go right here I be favoring shit

here it go I'll read it to you that's that ish you're the goat for that plug on the Joe Budden podcast appreciated and glad

you love my track I almost hit her back and said what's goat about him? That's hate. That's hate. That's definitely hate. That's why I didn't do it.

But what's goat about that? Nigga just got here playing one song. What's goat? What's a goat? I didn't even see that and you saved it. Oh, I bet you did.

It's giving duck. Giving something else. Not goat. Give him duck? Yeah, it's giving something else. Hating ass. Quack. Quack, quack. These guys are fucking That's hate. Niggas be haters, yo. Yeah, it's giving something else. Hating ass. Quack, quack, quack.

These guys are fucking haters. Niggas be haters, yo. Nah, they do. Niggas is me. I'm niggas. I'm niggas. I'm niggas. Oh, man.

Song is human nature. Uh-oh. Oh, he caught one. He caught another one. That assembly line, don't lose, yo. Who made this? Somebody fired, too. The young lady's name is Mahalia Jenea.

Oh, my Mahalia. Ain't a bad Mahalia out there. Mahalia Jenea. Oh, same thing. Mikayla. Hey, Playloader, let me see. Let me see Mikayla. This is Mikayla, nigga.

Mikayla. This sound fire or rape, but let me see. That's not even it. Michaela this sound fire array but let me see oh 41 spins okay even worse I think I see what them long road trips is about now. You're going to check out sleepers. Let me see if you can put me to sleep. No, I don't want to face it. Hopefully I'll get through this door and all of this time. You're supposed to be moving on

But I end up right back where my heart is hurting from Why we always running back to danger? It's a shame we ain't a stranger to pain I guess it's human nature getting the best of me Why, why, why? When I know I'd know better Tryna hold it together but Maybe I'm not as strong as I thought I was Tangled up in thoughts, I can't wrap my mind around If I wrap my legs around ya

Again We're supposed to be moving on But I ain't done The way back where my heart is hiding from Why are we always running back to danger? It's a shame we ain't a stranger to pain I guess it's human nature getting the best way Why?

Why? Why? Something much better Is supposed to be more But I end up right back where my heart is hurting We always run into danger It's a shame we ain't a stranger to pain I guess it's human nature, I get it the best, man I'm a tough man a bad, bad, bad for me

It's just familiarity The familiarity with me It's a shortness, you got another one? I got one I'll get you one of those That is Human Nature by Mikaela Jene Mikaela Mikaela Jene Yeah,ala. Makala Jene?

Yeah, Ish might have been in the studio for that one. Shout out to that young lady right there. Ish might have drove to that Pennsylvania studio. I'm putting the pieces together

of how you heard all these albums. Listen, man. What's wrong with your brain, yo? Well, I don't know That part I don't know Ladies and gentlemen, man We appreciate y'all

Shout out to Joey Badass, man That was great That was amazing That was amazing, man Yo You're destined Yo, all the baddies sing the hook out there When you start, you know what I mean?

Now I don't want to see you cry Got some questions that I gotta ask you Ladies Let me hear you say Girl It's easy to love me now But you love me now Rest in peace to Nate Dove always

And you out But you still love me Hey Girl It's easy to love me now Some of y'all was outside for this But you love me if for this. I was trying to compete and get a record played on radio. Well, it was without failure. Yo, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Hey! Until the next time, we bid you adieu. Farewell. Adios. Arrivederci.

Assalamu alaikum. Au revoirvoir, so long, goodbye like some of my friends remember life is a series of moments and moments pass so let's make this one last as if it's all we have and last but certainly not least the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women wanna travel and the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab your extra strength Tylenol. Nigga, you gon' need it.

Hey, cat, we can go do what you like. I know you like it. Let me hear you say it. Girl, it's easy to love me now. Would you love me if I was down and out? Would you still have love for me? Girl. Come on, man.

It's still Hemicozier. It's still Hemicozier, yo. Down and out. Would you still have love? Amazing performance. I came in the game. I fed my baseline shooters. I fed the trailer.

Assists off the backboard. Are you reviewing your own tape right now? Nah, that's what you should do. True. Nah, I got everybody. Ball distribution. Assists was high this game. Come on, man. We really them guys, man. Air horn. Air horn. Fuck. They thought it would fail.

You guys are fucking delivering. I got a mixer. I got a mixer coming I seen a little chart going around Huh? I seen a little chart going around I only see them charts when they post it Shout out to Rap Radar, Elliot Wilson, B.Dot Niggas are back

Welcome back to the game I never see them charts Until somebody else post it And I'm glad to see myself When you're promoting yourself. Real shit, though. Nah. Real shit, though. Maybe I'm not humble.

Is that not humble? Like, you promoting you. I'm just happy to see me? Yeah, like that. And the spot I sit in. Spot that we. Say, uh-huh, uh-huh. Take that back, East Orange. Uh-huh. That's about it. That's about it, wee. Say, huh? Huh? Take that back, you star inch.

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