The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 565 | “This Is Where I Stand”

Starting point is 00:00:00 Yeah, every quarter. Look, I want them to hear how loud my dad is. It's genetic. It's genetic. I also want them to hear that Pop said he would not come on the podcast, but has been potting for at least 30 minutes on the side. And it's a great pot. He told me he wasn't coming here again without his lawyer.

Starting point is 00:00:26 Having the same problem with him. Imagine my dad bringing a lawyer. All right. How y'all feeling? Feeling great. Feeling good, man. What's up? It's Friday, man.

Starting point is 00:00:41 Yeah. Saturday. I don't even fuck with beef. This guy just made one of them Eddie Murphy burgers. Pop burgers. Pop burgers. The real Joe Burgers. He made them.

Starting point is 00:00:51 The original. Joe the First Burgers. Yo, y'all making me mad. It's not no Junior Burger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Too many Sundays. Y'all done came over. Yo, you ain't making no Joe Burgers?

Starting point is 00:01:03 Watch yourself. I'm just saying, you got to pay homageers Watch yourself Pop made those with some extra love He don't make them like that all the time He heard that shit you said Yeah That's what it was You gotta do that more often On air too

Starting point is 00:01:13 Yeah that's for killing Gladys Knight Alright Y'all good? We good man You sure? Let's get it. Let's get it. Because there's fuck shit to get into. Yes, there is.

Starting point is 00:01:28 A lot of it. And I'm here to get into it. Come on, man. Hey, Kyle. Mic check, one, two, one, two. Y'all know what the fuck it is. And it go Shout out to Queens Marley

Starting point is 00:02:03 Farmer's Bully. Merrick. Bazley. Jamaica Ave. Hey! I'm gonna knock that out. Mama said knock that out. I'm gonna knock you out. Mama said knock AK out. I'm going to knock you two out.

Starting point is 00:02:26 Mama said knock you out. Come on. I'm going to knock AK out. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah.

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Starting point is 00:02:43 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. New York hoodie season is here 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Y'all gotta start putting some more respect on Uncle L, yo 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 My mom and the cow come and get you Playin' my position

Starting point is 00:02:54 Hot Nixon For all the sick ones and flexion Prisoners, dark sickness Best believe finger itching with two broke legs Now I'm trippin' on MCs, cliche Shot that ricochet Start trouble, bust, bubble Hip and wicked ways, gotta love me

Starting point is 00:03:09 G.O.D. no one above me Look good but fuck ugly Tap your jaw from my punch, fuck your son and you Got you shitting in your last, fucking running who? Fucking punk, yeah the speed punk Coming through, a single shot Make your meet up respect, woo Hey yo, I put it on that nigga

Starting point is 00:03:24 Shit it on a nigga Turn a Christian to a certified sinner The mall release time pin up When you got set up, I was hittin' your ex whole Shit, I kept low, Petro, your metro Polite, keep the chicken heads gobblin' Shit, I'm drivin' in, come with full collagen Terrorize your city, witness that commitment

Starting point is 00:03:43 Get past the pro-tifulence, turn shitty Smack the driver head in the gypsy Not about Jersey right now. You know what I mean? Some of us was outside for this. Ay. Some of us was buying bamboo earrings and shit. Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy I love it when a woman ain't scared to do a thing It come Hey Ladies Let's hear it for the girls, she's from around the way I need that love away, girl

Starting point is 00:04:46 Ladies I need that love away, girl This is for my new boy This is for my newborn This is for my newborn Yes sir! Four vibes in the city Yeah, this is for my newborn Truly for my newborn

Starting point is 00:05:15 And you say New York City! Oh What I say to him This is hard to say I wanna make sure I go about this In the right way Yes, y'all hear that bass line?

Starting point is 00:05:29 And I know you don't Feel appreciated And whatnot I used to tell you That your hair looks What Ish was saying to the girl Come on, Ish This was your shit

Starting point is 00:05:36 Don't try to act cute right now Now I talk real foul and slick Every other sentence You make me sick Get off my dick Back in the days I was your number one pick Now your heart's half broken And that's hard to she got a new number one pick that's crazy myself how

Starting point is 00:05:49 you gonna do that see you bouncing with somebody else it's a long journey back to the place we was when i was too embarrassed to admit i wasn't loved and you was my good girl and give it up i can't let herself be struck. Baby, smile today. Cause I've been a man. Ba-boom, ba-boom, boom. I'm gonna love you better. In your dreams, you'll see it too. Just when you think there's nothing else at home. I'm gonna love you better.

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Starting point is 00:06:52 All right. Welcome to episode 565 of the Joe Budden Podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host, Joe Budden, here with a few of my nearest and dearest. Brother Ish is here. Ice is here. Parks is here. Corey is here. Imani is here. Pops is here. Ice is here. Parks is here. Corey is here.

Starting point is 00:07:06 Imani is here. Pops is here. Youngboy is in the back. Yeah. That was wrong. The fuck was that? The fuck was that? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:14 Yeah, man. That's a lot better. Y'all good back there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that couch, yo. Yeah, it is that couch. Couch. Couch got him falling asleep back there. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:22 Nice. Also, this episode, I want to shout out to our sponsors uh we have our young boy cam set up in the back in case these niggas get too froggy or in case somebody out here isn't froggy enough whichever comes first uh a lot to get to so i'm not gonna waste anybody's time on this beautiful, beautiful weekend. How are you brothers feeling? I'm great. Fantastic. Amazing.

Starting point is 00:07:48 It's a weekend, man. I'm ready. Yep. I'm ready for it. Weather? I fuck with the weather. Oh, yeah. Woke up this morning.

Starting point is 00:07:53 It was fall, fall. Yeah, I had to cut the heat on it. Me too. It was cold. It was cold. I was naked in cold. That's not what you want to be. Naked in cold ain't fun.

Starting point is 00:08:03 No, it ain't. I was in there looking like Whacker 100. Alex, you seen they caught my nigga slipping? They caught my nigga slipping, Whack 100, man. Yo, not too much on Whack neither, yo. What happened? Yeah, I leaked a little picture of him in the hotel room naked. So on the bed, laying on his stomach on the phone.

Starting point is 00:08:31 Okay. Who took the picture? So now, men, because you know men. Well, whoever took the picture. I don't know who took the picture. They say that some side chick. I don't fucking know. That's none of my business.

Starting point is 00:08:42 But men now, it's just like, yo like yo they saying he was on Clubhouse now men are saying yo you be naked laying on a bed talking niggas clubhouse which begs the question cuz I don't have too much to say about whack and uses phone but how do y'all use the phone? Y'all just be walking around the crib naked talking to niggas on the phone? Nah, I usually keep my shit away. See, look. You'll be in the house with your dick away?

Starting point is 00:09:17 What about the phone? I'll be in the house with my dick away. Yo, y'all gotta stop, yo. Imani. Look. You walk around the house naked? Yes. All the time?

Starting point is 00:09:28 Yes. I can't wait till my mom leave. I set the alarm extra early while she up there just to walk out naked in the house still. How you still feel like a man? It's like the best thing to do in the world is just walk around naked. I mean, yeah. There's a time and a place, though. So what? The phone going to ring and I'm going to run to the closet and grab a around naked. I mean, yeah. There's a time and a place, though. So what, the phone gonna ring

Starting point is 00:09:45 and I'm gonna run to the closet and grab a shirt? I'm not answering the phone. I wasn't naked to begin with. Y'all are so weird, yo. We weird. Yes. Got it.

Starting point is 00:09:56 Society. Maybe not just y'all, but that's weird. Having clothes on is weird. No, I'm with the walking around naked in your house. Don't start that part and shit. I'm never naked in my house like that.

Starting point is 00:10:07 Rob, the name of this episode is This Is Where I Stand. I'm coming in here today to make very defined lines on where I stand on things. Okay. Because I'm just reading the news. I'm reading the comments. I'm listening to you idiots, and it hit me like a bag of bricks.

Starting point is 00:10:29 Damn, yo, a lot of these niggas got me fucked up still. I thought I'd fix some of that, but some of you niggas, it still got me just a smidgen of fucked up. Starting with Ice.

Starting point is 00:10:42 I ain't like that shit you did last episode. I'm on that I'm playing diss records I don't give a fuck Who like it Who don't like it Who want to point out some hypocrisy

Starting point is 00:10:57 Who want to be glued To this fucking point we made One part that I can't seem to get behind us Joe Budden is playing diss records. First off, you- Hold on, I'm not done with these niggas. If you niggas want to go shoot each other, stab each other, put switches on guns, stalk each other, drop locations on site, that has zero to do with me enjoying a diss record. I agree.

Starting point is 00:11:24 Let me know when you finish. I agree 100%. If you niggas want to go interview rappers and ask them about every fucking op they've ever had, then by all means, go ahead. I will not make the parallel between that and diss records. I'm playing a diss. This nigga made me feel bad all fucking week

Starting point is 00:11:43 that I let that bullshit ride. It's one thing I'm playing a diss. This nigga made me feel bad all fucking week that I let that bullshit ride. It's one thing in playing a diss record. It's another thing in highlighting a diss record that's perpetrating the beef. They all perpetrate beef. Yeah, that's what diss records are for. That's what a diss record is. Come on.

Starting point is 00:11:57 Stop it. No, they all don't. Why don't they? They all don't perpetrate actual acts. Give me the diss record that don't. Give me the diss record that don't. Nigga, I'm talking about actual acts. I could give you some.

Starting point is 00:12:06 Sans Joe Budden. At one point in time, when Nas and Jay-Z was beefing, nobody thought Nas was going to do nothing to Jay-Z and vice versa. Or if something happened, they didn't go in there and say, talking about it. You get what I'm saying? Today. Y'all don't play Hit Em Up?

Starting point is 00:12:19 Stop it. Yeah. Of course you do. It's one of the greatest diss tracks ever made. The best diss record of all time. Okay. It's not that bad. It is, but it's cool.

Starting point is 00:12:26 But what I'm saying is this. Even back then, nobody thought Pac was going to do nothing big or nobody. Two of our biggest heroes lost our lives. That's a crush. In relation to that record. After the records, right? That's not true. After the records.

Starting point is 00:12:38 No, no, no, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. That's not true either. That's after records. Maybe one of them lost their lives based on Hit Em Up. Fam, there was East Coast and West Coast tension. True. Yes.

Starting point is 00:12:49 That's how that brewed. That's how that got stirred. True. Something had to culminate to these records being birthed and these deaths. Yeah. This didn't just pop up out of nowhere. The deaths, that's not true, though. The deaths did not take place as a result of the East Coast niggas beefing with the West Coast.

Starting point is 00:13:05 Says who? Says who? What are you talking about? Pac passed away based on... Stop, you're naming one person. Stop. Stop. There was wars.

Starting point is 00:13:13 There were literal wars going on back there. I'm asking a question. Tupac passed away based on the East Coast, West Coast beef? It's a yes or a no? Not my place to say. Not my place... You're wrong. You did not. It's not my place to say. Not my place. You're wrong. He did not.

Starting point is 00:13:25 It's not my place to say. That changes nothing. That changes nothing. And there was East Coast, West Coast tension. Heavy tension. Yes. When both of them were alive. True.

Starting point is 00:13:35 Correct. So that's what I'm saying. I don't, that may be a different point. Like, if it's a hip-hop beef, right? It's cool with me. We could, in my opinion, we could push the hip-hop beef. Where we know or have high odds that yo they rapping like i'm dissing you in a rap song uh-huh parks fuck your six five

Starting point is 00:13:52 ass ish fuck you you little curly head you get what i'm saying that's different no no it's not because i'm giving my point my point is different when i know that potentially this person could get murdered my point is not even killing each other little niggas are killing each other, bro. It's different. I'm using this exact example of the disc record you played. You're responding to an incident that happened where a nigga just damn near died, and y'all are rapping about that on record. That's what I'm talking about.

Starting point is 00:14:18 So us highlighting that, I don't care how good the record is. Yeah, you can listen to it. That shit was dope. I'm talking about putting it on this. It was hard. We were all in agreement it was a hard record. I'm talking about when we come on here it i'm talking about putting it on this but it was hard we were all in agreement it was a hard record i'm talking about playing it when we come on i'm talking about it i'd assume zero responsibility and that's what you're talking about and that's the problem today then don't get mad at us today is that excuse me don't get mad at him he don't have i'm not mad at

Starting point is 00:14:39 him for the record that was a podcast conversation i'm not mad at him everybody got to do what they got to do i'm talking talking about where Joe stand. I also think that and there's a huge difference like I get mad when you say bullshit like that. There's a very because that's bullshit

Starting point is 00:14:51 and you shouldn't misuse the platform like that. What you mean? It is a huge difference in playing that disc record and sitting niggas down asking them about every fucking investigative beef

Starting point is 00:15:01 that they possibly have when people stop it. Stop it. That's almost foolish. It's not foolish. It's foolish to me. Okay, well it could be. Stop it. That's almost foolish. It's not foolish, Joe. It's foolish to me. Okay, well, it could be foolish to you. It's not foolish to me.

Starting point is 00:15:09 That nigga sat there on that record and is speaking on that particular situation. Damn. All right, stop it, yo. All right, dog. Stop it, yo. All right, all right. You got it. Stop it.

Starting point is 00:15:18 You got it. Stop it. Because you trying to conflate things. I'm really not. You taking things. I'm really not. You taking things that you know a little more information about, allegedly. You.

Starting point is 00:15:28 You. Now, where you get that information from is wherever the fuck you get it from. It certainly ain't from a Joe Budden interview, and it ain't from that Don Q freestyle. Dog, I was talking. Wait, wait. Period right there. That's a period right there. There's nothing that you know about nothing from a Joe Budden podcast interview

Starting point is 00:15:45 or from that freestyle. I'm not talking about the interview. Or from that freestyle. I'm talking about from that freestyle. All you know is a nigga got shot. A nigga got shot. You might not know who had what to do with anything. Ice niggas been getting shot in hip hop

Starting point is 00:15:56 from the beginning of time. And Joe, listening to that verse, if you don't know nothing, it will, oh shit, they might have something to do with that. But the way he's talking. Ice, stop it. Did you hear the verse?

Starting point is 00:16:05 Yes. So what are you talking about? So you think we're supposed to listen to music and now start assuming responsibility for the thoughts of the people performing the music? I'm not saying that. Because that is what you're saying. That's not what I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:16:15 That is exactly what you're saying. Don't put words in my mouth. It's not what I'm saying. Then what are you saying when you ask me to interpret the lyrics from the fucking freestyle? I'm not asking you to interpret anything. Then what are you saying?

Starting point is 00:16:23 He's speaking on that particular event in that person? So for us to highlight that it I'm not saying it's a great record. It's great rapping Yes, we were in agreeance to that us putting a light on that Doesn't help anything and if we're gonna get mad at for some as somebody else for doing that saying is detrimental to the culture We doing the same shit then leave the culture if your point stands detrimental to the culture, we doing the same shit. Then leave the culture. If your point stands, then leave the culture, because that's bullshit. It's bullshit. And we don't have to stay here, because my line is my line. There's nothing that y'all can say to get me off of my line. And I'm not going to try to get y'all off of you.

Starting point is 00:16:54 It should never be that way. And I'm not going to try to get y'all off of you. Absolutely. That's how it should always be. How did you feel when 50 dropped it? When 50 dropped what? The record. That's a freestyle. That's a 50 record. That's a 50 song. I don't know, officer. The G unit you want me to talk about?

Starting point is 00:17:07 Yeah. He didn't speak on a particular situation in that song, Joe. I know that G unit record. Why not? See, and that's my point about you fucking new niggas with this internet, because y'all got a little more information today. This shit has always been happening. I agree with you.

Starting point is 00:17:22 Yes, he was speaking about some specific shit. Yes, he was speaking about some specific shit. I said a particular... Yes, he was speaking about something specific. I said he's not putting particular information What did you think about Ghetto Karan when that dropped?

Starting point is 00:17:34 I'm done having this conversation. What about it? I'm asking you what did you think of these records? It's a great rap record. Same thing I think about this freestyle.

Starting point is 00:17:42 Great rap record. Exact same thing. If you really want to know, same thing I said about this. great rap record what should we exact same thing if you really want to know same thing i said about this great rap record i'm talking about us highlighting some shit that is an some active shit going on right now that's all i'm saying we can't get mad at somebody else stop telling me about somebody else hey joe i'm speaking for ice okay you can you can then why are you talking about What mattered to somebody else Nigga fuck him I'm speaking for Ice

Starting point is 00:18:08 Thank you Ice Does not want to sit here So what do you do with your dream music collection I can keep listening to it I'm not highlighting shit Is what I'm telling you Oh my god I'm done with you

Starting point is 00:18:16 Okay be done with me then What we got Where do we begin Wherever you want Yeah I'm turned up today So am I nigga turn up Yeah yeah Turn it the fuck up in here

Starting point is 00:18:24 Mad shit to get to Where do we start LL Act Emea Udoka turned up today. So am I, nigga. Turn up. Yeah, yeah. Turn it the fuck up in here. Mad shit to get to. Where do we start? LL Act. Emea Udoka. I mean, we on beef. LN Act ain't really beef. No, it ain't. No, no.

Starting point is 00:18:36 It's not that. It's not beef. It's not beef. Where do we stand? Well. I think. We all know. we all know. We all know. Acted a Joe circa 2008 or whatever that was.

Starting point is 00:18:52 It went and dissed the founders of hip-hop. It was out of pocket. And LL responded in a very... A few people responded now. Yeah, a few people have. LL, MC Shan, Russell Simmons. Everybody. There's a few more people that responded. Yeah, a lot more. And aL, MC Shan, Russell Simmons. Everybody. There's a few more people that responded.

Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah, a lot more. And a few more are going to respond. This ain't going to stop. What did y'all think initially when y'all heard the act shit? I didn't hear the act shit. I heard LL before I heard act. I didn't even know who he was referring to because he never said act's name. So when I heard LL say it and then I started to research it,

Starting point is 00:19:26 I'm like, yo, was he drunk or something? Because they say I get drunk on his Twitch and start going crazy from what I hear. So I'm like, yo, he must have been drunk or something. Then upon further review, me personally, I just think it's nasty. I think it's like saying LeBron James or, because I'm going to put Ak Updere as one of the premier podcasters in the world. Media people in general. Especially from our culture, right?

Starting point is 00:19:55 For sure. Absolutely. It's like saying Kevin Durant disrespecting George Gervin. You know what I mean? And calling him dusty when George Gervin and those dudes paved the way for Kevin Durant to be $300 million, $400 million contracts. I think without these quote-unquote dusty guys that you talk about, you wouldn't be DJ Academics.

Starting point is 00:20:19 That's a fact. I think the Joe Button podcast wouldn't be here today without Cool Herc, without Red Alert, without Chuck Chillout, and some of these dudes that might not have profited financially from a business. They didn't even know it was a business back then. You get what I'm saying? It was a hobby. It was an art form for them.

Starting point is 00:20:34 They didn't know how to monetize it and collect on it accordingly. It wasn't available, like LL said. No one was even allowing it to be monetized. It didn't exist. You're not even thinking about that. So, again, for them, being Dusty, academics is where he is. Joe Button podcast is where he is.

Starting point is 00:20:50 Even Joe Button as a rapper, forget the podcast piece, Joe Button is where he is. Without fucking Crush Groove or Beat Street, there's no juice. Pump It Up came from juice. You get what I'm saying? That's a sample from juice. So that's how it boom look B Street and the breaking and crush groove

Starting point is 00:21:09 to the movie juice that's just for content like you're the foundation of hip-hop really living good that makes me look at really dusty I kid you not and the none of y'all try to cover me because I don't fuck with y'all niggas either. So I'm just telling y'all the truth. Y'all be looking like... Every time there be like an old, old nigga talking about hip-hop,

Starting point is 00:21:32 you be like, yo, bro, you sure you in bed in this? Because everybody else living better than you. Facts. You know, I don't go live a lot. I haven't really been going live since the pandemic. This is something that came to my attention. And he goes for six

Starting point is 00:21:45 minutes so i won't let it run all the way but you'll get enough of it i'm not gonna say any names because i don't think it's necessary a dj basically said that um you know a lot of the pioneers in hip-hop or you know they're dusty or how can they be the person that um you know invented hip-hop if uh you know they don't have a lot of money or if they don't look represent like they have a lot of dough right let me explain something to you um and say this for you guys don't confuse someone's ability to develop a business model don't conflate in other words don't think just because somebody knows how to get money or fails to get money that they didn't make a contribution to the culture. Real true. Very true.

Starting point is 00:22:46 No one discusses Miles Davis' bank account. We don't talk about John Coltrane's bank account. Right. We don't talk about a lot of even rock musicians, a lot of them. We don't talk about their bank accounts. A lot of great country artists, we don't talk about their bank accounts. about their bank accounts a lot of great country artists we don't talk about their bank accounts um this idea that you have to have money or else you don't have any value

Starting point is 00:23:20 is a bad idea and it's a it's a it's a it's kind of like talking to him yes it's a misinformed way of looking at the world and the culture there are artists out here first of all let me let me let me say this i'm gonna cut it soon first of all you know like let's talk about like young artists right which who i love i love the young artists let's be clear i'm very much a guy who embraces the young artists i believe in every generation i believe in you i care about you let me say this to you though today you could come up with your five-year plan your 10-year plan your 20-year plan you can go find a manager you can find an accountant you could find somebody that means something to you um you know to help, you can find a team to help your career go to the next level. When hip-hop first started,

Starting point is 00:24:10 there were no managers. There were no accountants that believed in it. Record companies didn't even believe in it. Nobody believed in it. How can you make a five-year plan or a ten-year plan on something that doesn't even exist yet? That people have never even heard of yet that's enough yeah yeah uncle l legendary ll cool j super classy and respectful uh response no yeah for starters you could tell he was kind of emotional but he kept it so he kept it so

Starting point is 00:24:41 professional i got chills yeah my first second, third time listening to that. For me, it always feels good to see somebody be that passionate about music. But still maintaining respect. He could have easily went in there and called all types of names. You know what I'm saying? But he didn't. He carried himself like a 50-something-year-old dude He easily went in there and called all types of names. He called all types of names. You know what I'm saying? But he didn't. He carried himself like a 50-something-year-old dude trying to inform a younger guy about something

Starting point is 00:25:10 that they may have been mistaken on. You know what I'm saying? Instead of taking it personal and shooting that act, I think he was trying to inform that. And it's real easy when you're that passionate about something, which he obviously is, to let emotions make you say some hurtful, hateful shit. And he did not.

Starting point is 00:25:26 Yeah. Which I love. Like, because hip hop. This is a very loaded topic. It's just not rap. So we're going to be on this for a second. It's just not rap, though. Like, hip hop is graffiti.

Starting point is 00:25:38 Hip hop is breakdancing. Hip hop is so many different things. It's a culture. It's a way of life. The way we dress and all of that other stuff. A lot of people were influential in hip-hop just not in rap music correct but even back then you take the jazzy j's you might take red alert was a fucking god in hip-hop he might not have the most money today

Starting point is 00:25:56 that don't mean that his imprint and his stamp on hip-hop isn't mad influential you get i'm saying like curtis blow might not be rich today, but without Curtis Blow, it ain't no Run DMC, potentially. It ain't no Russell Simmons with no Russell Simmons. It's no Puff. It's no Jay.

Starting point is 00:26:11 And it just goes up the ladder like that. For sure. You get what I'm saying? I think that that's crazy to say. I agree. That's my personal opinion. I think that's crazy.

Starting point is 00:26:19 And people being hip-hop, they don't necessarily be hip-hop historians. The same way Charles Barkley and them, they call Bill Russell and them Mr. Like, they be bowing to them, rightfully so. Rest in peace, Bill Russell. Rest in peace,

Starting point is 00:26:30 Bill Russell, but rightfully so. Like, when they look at them, because they know that these dudes had regular jobs and were still playing basketball. So without them playing basketball or football or baseball, whatever the sport may be, it would be no us. It's showing respect to the trailblazers.

Starting point is 00:26:46 Absolutely. Without no Ed Lover and Dr. Dre, there's no academics. You know what I'm saying? And I don't know if Ed Lover and Dr. Dre got the most money. Fat 5 Freddy might not have the most money, but without Yo! MTV Raps opening up a platform,

Starting point is 00:27:01 there's no platform for us to come here and sit and talk today. That's true. So I just think that more respect is owed to these people. Like, you shouldn't call them Dusty. Even if you feel that way, I just think as a 30-something-year-old man, you got to have a little bit more tact in that.

Starting point is 00:27:14 Joe, I'm curious to hear how you think of it, being that you made a similar mistake. Yours, I don't think, was quite as disrespectful as calling someone Dusty, but yours was more of just, I rap better than you, but that sparked a lot of shit. And I still think I rap better than these niggas.

Starting point is 00:27:27 That's your right to say. Yeah. No, but, no, I'm joking around. But to be serious for a second, hell, this is so loaded. I agree with all of y'all. I agree with all of y'all. I've been at it. Right.

Starting point is 00:27:44 I've been at it. Like, that's part of why I fuck been act right I've been act like that's part of why I fuck with act and let me start there let me start there because there's a lot

Starting point is 00:27:52 of people piling on act I didn't want to do let me start with I love act that's like my little bro I'm I disagree with him

Starting point is 00:28:04 often and I'm gonna love him in spite of our disagreements uh in spite of his mistakes he's have old he gotta go learn on his own like all us had to go learn on our own I don't do the type of new internet love that you niggas do like when I fuck with niggas I fuck with niggas but part of that part of that is so because I identify I was there before as the kid who wasn't in the streets but wasn't like corporate the internet I'm figuring my way and I'm making my way on the internet and you're gonna you're gonna bump your head a little bit I feel ack in this clip because too many times more than I could count have I sat in front of a computer and talked like I was just me and you in a room somewhere all willy-nilly

Starting point is 00:29:00 right and then one person heard it or one spot picked it up and they blew that shit. And now I'm I'm not you can't be responsible for how it's received. And I listened to I listened to X, some of X response. He already responded to this on his podcast. And he said a lot of that was tongue-in-cheek. I don't quite, I'm not sure that that was an apology. But he said a lot of it I was bullshitting around. He can explain his own point.

Starting point is 00:29:34 You can go listen to his podcast on Spotify where he gets into what he meant a little more. But I don't agree with anything on there. But I wouldn't agree with anything on there. But I wouldn't agree, cause I made music. Like I'm a rapper, like a rapper rapper. Before that, I was in the streets surrounded by culture,

Starting point is 00:30:00 just all of it, the graffiti, the dance, the crime, like, and people that lived it to a degree or were immersed in it or a part of it. It's an appreciation. It's just a respect. I look at Scarface and Rest in Peace, Eazy-Eazy, too many to name. Anybody that came before me,

Starting point is 00:30:20 I look at them and tip my hat and bow. And there's an acknowledgement that nothing that I do today I look at them and tip my hat and bow. And there's an acknowledgement that nothing that I do today would exist. Fuck what I do. Who I am. Yes. It's not what I do. It's who I am.

Starting point is 00:30:40 Hip hop, for me, it's given me too much. It's taught me too much. It's provided a way of life. It's embedded in my dna in my genes i have a greater appreciation for it so even if you ever thought to yourself hey some of the founding fathers don't look as great as they're supposed to look if you understand the way i understand instead of making jokes about it or chastising them or ridiculing them, you say thank you. I'll be sad.

Starting point is 00:31:09 Well, that's the next part. That's why a Joe Budden sits here and cries over De La Soul splits. Because they were so instrumental and inspirational for me, and here I am, an adult, actually doing this shit. And wait, you mean to tell me they ain't get theirs yet?

Starting point is 00:31:27 Right. Like, this is why Wayne stops the show to salute Anita Baker while she's going through her trying to get her masters back. Like, this is why it is, because we appreciate and we understand. Now, there are plenty of people involved in culture that don't. Yeah. And that's why I also love Ack. Because while I disagree with everything he said,

Starting point is 00:31:53 I love the conversation that starts. I love the conversation that it starts. I love LL saying what he said. I love seeing Mr. C and everybody just respond. Because now that's what the show Everyday Struggle was built on. Hey, you get your side that don't quite understand some of this. You get these young niggas that don't quite get some of this. And let's try to figure this out and have a conversation.

Starting point is 00:32:20 Because this is just from a clear lack of everything. Respect. Understanding. Fucking just salute. It's just a salute. That's all it takes. So, I mean, that's how I feel about that. I called at just to see what was up with him. He didn't answer.

Starting point is 00:32:49 I'm sure he's having a busy time on his phone over there. But I do love the conversation. I loved hearing from Russell Simmons. I could go on for days on this. I could. I'm here to say thank you to anybody that's ever paved any type of way. Yeah, a lot of us are just, like when you mentioned Barkley, it's being a student of the game that you're in.

Starting point is 00:33:17 You know who laid the path before you, and you know you wouldn't exist. I don't care what form you, what part you play today in hip-hop, whether you're a DJ, whether you're an A&R. If it wasn't for them dudes, you wouldn't have that. So under no circumstance, I'm not piling on that. I'm just anybody who thinks that way, you really should understand that these people, especially if you up today, like if you up, up, they made that. They made that for you. They actually created it.

Starting point is 00:33:42 They literally out of nothing. It did not exist. There hasn't been one vice that has probably made more affluent African Americans than hip-hop. Maybe sports, but outside of sports. Because hip-hop trickles down. Will Smith is hip-hop. You get what I'm saying? A lot of people are hip-hop, and they feed people.

Starting point is 00:34:04 You know what I'm saying? It's branches people are hip-hop and they feed people. You know what I'm saying? It's branches to that tree. And again, sports is sports. Don't get me wrong. Sports is sports and sports can make a bunch of money but you got producers that never be in front of a camera. You got movie directors. You got little ex. You know what I mean? Marketing people.

Starting point is 00:34:19 Engineers. That are getting money from hip-hop. So many professions. Yeah. You know what I mean? Sometimes these people will be in these businesses and go on to be CFOs of companies that started in hip-hop. Damn Dash got a fucking, he makes motion pictures from hip-hop. Like, it just branches off so many trees.

Starting point is 00:34:39 So I just think to think of the founding people, again, that's based on how we all, everybody in this room, is getting a check, came from that. Yeah, exactly. Like, how do you, that's based on how we all, everybody in this room, is getting a check, came from that. Yeah, exactly. Like, how do you, I just don't see how you,

Starting point is 00:34:50 and again, I don't know Ack, so I'm not disrespecting Ack, but he just might not know that. But, but, granted, but another part of this says that this ain't really about Ack, right?

Starting point is 00:35:09 Like, when we have kids whatever toxic shit is in us one day we might have to face it in our kids it just look a little different now right i started out mad at takashi and then at the end of it all, I wasn't so mad because whatever that shit is, he got it from music and hip-hop, and this is just not what we would have did with it. And this is more of the same. Ack is, what, Jamaican, Trinidadian, he's something. And I won't speak to the part that hip-hop played in his life, but he's 27, 28, 29, 30, somewhere around there. So if he is thinking, oh, and whether you like it or not, he speaks for a lot of those young here, the young Internet generation. These are facts.

Starting point is 00:35:57 And I want to be clear with facts here, because facts don't need credit, and they don't need emotions. They're just facts. A lot of people feel like act. So what I saw from that is, and I know this about act, oh, you put a lot of stock into how much money people made. And again, I don't take it. I don't take him the way everybody else does

Starting point is 00:36:22 because I worked with him for a year. Every fight there was to have, I've had it. I understand. Yeah, he thought I was a bum ass. Get your bum ass. What are you, independent? When we met. Independent, you know, one song was 20 years ago.

Starting point is 00:36:36 Like, they don't have no. But hip hop did that. That's why I'm saying it's not about that. Hip hop made it so that unless we see jewelry clothes we validate cars skin just materialistic things this is not just an act thing then we ain't fucking with so I bet the conversation between L and act and all these people for me it gets to and and and i talked to akon yesterday and super enlightening uh and we talked to him on patreon

Starting point is 00:37:13 but super enlightening the conversation gets to when does some of that messaging in music begin to change it could be even deeper than just music because it's like a generational thing yeah yeah you know what i'm saying like let's stick to music but it can be deeper just carrying up passing down traditions and respect for elders and stuff like that goes beyond just the scope of music and art and culture fact i mean yes we should all respect our elders but i'm just talking about some of that braggadocious shit with the dusty and whatever he said that was just egregious. Yo, you niggas look dusty and sick. I don't know what it was.

Starting point is 00:37:51 I played it. Rewind the shit. I'm just speaking to that part. Because I thought that was so profound about L to say. Like, no matter what you got, like, what that got to do with your value. Right. And the part you played in this. Or the impact that you've made. And then, right, there's got to do with your value. Right. And the part you played in this. Or the impact that you've made.

Starting point is 00:38:06 And then, right, there's levels to everything. So, I mean, when Axe start talking about get on his money shit, I'm super happy from another fact. He made that from his basement somewhere. When he says, he said on the podcast, I am instrumental in the way hip hop media functions today that's another fact

Starting point is 00:38:28 all of those things are facts right damn I forgot the point I was just getting at I do I think you were headed that

Starting point is 00:38:35 I'm guessing I think you were headed to that's relative like success is relative so yes that is where I was going another nigga could look at him

Starting point is 00:38:46 Like you Dusty Yo Ak got to talking And I know Ak getting it I know he's getting it But then LL pop up Looking like he's still 12

Starting point is 00:38:54 Mm-hmm LL from back then We just seen LL Out on the yacht With Magic in him Right Yeah Taking care of his self

Starting point is 00:39:02 Getting money Looking good with his family Never heard Not too many cheating LL scandals, just has been a model citizen for your whole fucking life. Right. Right? Then the next person I hear is Russell Simmons, sans that other shit that I don't know about and don't agree with,

Starting point is 00:39:18 if it is true. I start thinking about the money that Russell made. Like, the reactions, like like it's so much, it's such a wealth of knowledge and information. Like, and that's why, and that's why this gets tricky, man. This, this gets tricky. And I, and I, I kind of fall on the sword here all the time of separate, attempting to separate individuals

Starting point is 00:39:43 from what that individual has contributed to hip-hop and what that in turn did for me. Like, Russell's Russell. But a fact is that Russell was Russell still. That can get people uncomfortable, and I'm aware. But you got to gotta understand everybody experience wasn't that like some of the things that these people did you would forever be in debt to them you would forever have to tip your hat to them just for paving the paving the way like you said

Starting point is 00:40:19 there ain't no fucking podcast if people don't get out there and the other profound thing ll said yo there it wasn't a business right it wasn't nothing nobody believed in this not labels white people the streets managers you couldn't get somebody to today this whole shit runs off uh do you see the vision yeah oh no we got projections yeah we have, and we know or we think that you're going to do this. That's based on forefathers. You only get projections from past experience. You get what I'm saying? Like, you only get that from that.

Starting point is 00:40:55 So that's my thing. Like, no Roxanne Shante, there's no Nicki Minaj. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, there's no fucking Rihanna out here cross-branding herself and doing all of these other things. I just, you got it, man. There's also a conversation we had about, like,

Starting point is 00:41:13 internet culture and the language that we use on the internet. And people are accustomed to using the suck my dick, you're sucking dick, you're dusty, blah, blah, blah. These niggas invite niggas to their dick like it's nothing. And that's how you know a nigga ain't got punch Niggas ain't get punched bro You bring back the good old Still

Starting point is 00:41:30 Put they dick back You start stealing motherfuckers Nigga dick go right back in they pants They start getting punched in they face Tell a nigga suck your dick They say it effortlessly For anything Shit is crazy bro I just think it's unfortunate They say it effortlessly. Effortlessly, yeah. For anything. Women say it. For anything. Everybody.

Starting point is 00:41:46 Shit is crazy, bro. No, I just think it's unfortunate. I think it's unfortunate. But how do we... There's a clear disconnect. How do we bridge that? How do we fix that? What would have to happen for... I think somebody like Joe, right?

Starting point is 00:42:04 Because again, Joe knows academics. I don't know academics, so I don't know if he's a bad guy. I don't know if he's a good guy. I don't know nothing about him. I just think what he said was unfortunate, one, and I just think it might have just came from a place of being unknowledgeable. You get what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:42:23 It's a teaching moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think somebody like Joe could bridge that gap. Or it could also, like I said, back to the internet thing, I'm just making jokey jokes

Starting point is 00:42:30 on the internet, but that's hurtful to people. I heard he doubled down on it. You have a big platform. I heard he doubled down on it. I didn't hear the second interview. I'm not going to say that he doubled down

Starting point is 00:42:38 because he goes into detail on, I would play it, but it's a Spotify interview. I'm not going to do that. But he goes into... Damn. There's no way to cliff note what he was saying, but it's a totally different message

Starting point is 00:42:53 than what we got from, hey, these niggas is old and dusty. I guess what he was saying is, yo, I was talking to the people. There are older rappers who go out of their way to shit on the younger artists. It was those artists who were keeping information from younger artists who were just acting as gatekeepers.

Starting point is 00:43:13 And so it's us, the niggas like us, that had to get it on our own out of nowhere to come out here and be successful because we're doing it this way. It's not like y'all were helping us or giving us the business. In fact, maybe y'all didn't know the business because maybe that's why y'all had a bunch of bad deals.

Starting point is 00:43:29 Sure. Well, that's a much better conversation. That's a 10 times better conversation. And if that is his response, and he's saying, yo, I was saying this contextually, that this is the context in which I'm in it in, it does change the conversation.

Starting point is 00:43:46 Yeah. It definitely does change the conversation, because now it's, yo, you niggas was hot, and y'all out here dissing these young boys, but y'all niggas look sick, or y'all look dusty. You get what I'm saying? You dissing these dudes, they getting money, but y'all look dusty. It changes the conversation. But I didn't need to hear from LL to hear

Starting point is 00:44:01 that Ack was speaking in the tongue-in-cheek clip from a place of defense. See, because people always tell you what the defense is right after they start their shit. They always do it. And Ack, in that clip, said, damn, I don't want to play it again, but he said,

Starting point is 00:44:18 can't none of y'all niggas say nothing to me neither, because I don't fuck with none of y'all niggas. I hate y'all niggas. Oh, okay. Well, that explains why do you hate him? Right. Oh, because Because he talked about me and laughed at me.

Starting point is 00:44:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He murdered and killed me for years and years and years. And that was the first four months of mine and his relationship. Like I saw It was that.

Starting point is 00:44:36 He went through that. It was him like kind of projecting all of his new mighty internet I made it on my own type shit

Starting point is 00:44:44 onto me the old forgotten hasen rapper that's looking down on. And I can't lie. Again, part of my love for Ak is he really helped me to understand even maybe some of my bitterness. Because there was a time where I just had a foul taste in my mouth looking at some of these young niggas. But if you don't attempt to understand them, and ways please please this goes this goes both ways we just got to attempt to understand one another so the respect level can raise right and push the art and culture it's acknowledgement

Starting point is 00:45:19 the acknowledgement of the young rapper that is still moving the culture forward and taking it to higher heights. And the acknowledgement that I wouldn't be able to reach these higher heights had it not been for y'all. And I would like to still be here in 30 years like some of y'all are. Boy, that was the other part I took from LL when he started going through the different genres that don't highlight how much money we have in our bank account. Well, while he's absolutely right, that shouldn't be directed at academics either. They don't highlight it in jazz. They don't highlight it in jazz. They don't highlight it in country.

Starting point is 00:45:52 Every single one of them, John, they don't highlight it. That's us on nigga shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's us. That's based on streets. That got a deeper, deeper, deeper historical thing. But I agree. At what point do we... We just lost PNB.

Starting point is 00:46:07 We just lost... At what point do we begin... Stop bragging. No, just to put change forward in anything. In anything. Hey, keep the jewelry. Keep the jewelry. Jay-Z said niggas was kings

Starting point is 00:46:21 back in the day and that's when the jewelry come from. I knew he was going to think of some lyrical way to explain the jewelry. I knew if there was going to be one guy to do it. So, hey, keep the jewelry.

Starting point is 00:46:30 But our mentality behind it and around it. It's like this defines you. Yeah, thinking that we have to die for it. Right, right. I can't let nobody. Not saying that anybody thought that. I'm just saying to the people that do. I'm dying for my chain.

Starting point is 00:46:45 My chain is everything. No, no, we need y'all. See, because hip hop don't teach you that we need you. It teach you to come in. Get hot, get what you can get. What's your single? No. Let me take, take, take, take.

Starting point is 00:46:59 Strip it down, take till you can't take no more. Now get your bum ass back out there. That weed that we just pulled out the garden another week on growing instead yes and rock and roll try to say something bad about the rolling stones try it or the grateful dead try it somewhere metallica any of them or chuck berry any anybody like yeah the rock fans stand up and let you know we need them yeah they are needed here which is why they still selling out out arenas. And I just think that a little bit of that is missing in hip hop. I think that this shit is ridden with toxic concepts, toxic ideologies, toxic low vibrational frequencies. I think this shit is just, I think it's a mess.

Starting point is 00:47:43 But I think it's a mess by design But I think it's a mess by design. I think it's a mess by design. He keeps saying that. It starts to make sense. And all of this is part of that design. It starts to make sense when you point it out that it is designed this way. And not to mention, right, in allowing and talking about compassion and understanding the deal's been fucked up since the beginning of the time and the deals is fucked up now a lot of these niggas that

Starting point is 00:48:15 y'all rock with that y'all love that y'all praise and champion are in fucked up deals and why that's different today is y'all got all the information in the world today. Y'all got all these niggas that trailblazed the path. Y'all got all the money in the world for Theo Sotomayor and everybody else to get y'all out of these shits. Theo, thank you still. I mean, can't get it

Starting point is 00:48:38 fucked up. You gotta give credit where it's due now. But yeah, you gotta go with, yeah, niggas is in fucked up deals. To understand that is to understand that, right? Like, that's what it is. So can't look down on anybody for signing something fucked up. You can't speak for where they were, what they needed, what was available,

Starting point is 00:49:00 what the market was, what their alternative was. What was the other option? Mm-hmm. Yeah. So that's that on that. I'm turned up today, yo. I'm turned up a little bit today. Just a little bit.

Starting point is 00:49:13 You can't. Uncle Al can't talk like that. I'm not coming here turned up. That's inspirational. Come on, man. I'm Queens Galway, a block away from his grandma's house. We used to drive by. Hey, that's Al's grandma's house right there.

Starting point is 00:49:30 You know what I mean? I get riled up. We start talking about shit like this. God damn it. What else we got? I'm coming back to this later in the show. Let me get this shit out of here. I'm coming.

Starting point is 00:49:40 This is my favorite thing to do on this couch. Get some shit out the shot. I'm coming back to this topic of culture, its participants, and how did you participate exactly. I'm coming back to this. Okay. But off to Boston we go. Let's go.

Starting point is 00:50:03 Many nights had to decide, hey, you want to drive over to Boston now or in the morning we go we headed to Boston M.A. Udoka first year head coach of the Boston Celtics did his thing he did took him to the finals lost did a phenomenal job on the sidelines after a rough start to the season. Actually, go Knicks. First Celtic loss last season. R.J. Barrett at the buzzer, overtime, off the backboard. He was there at that game, right? I was at that game, asleep like an idiot.

Starting point is 00:50:39 I remember seeing you on TV like, it's Joseph. I know he ain't asleep on the sidelines. Yo, why am I here like why man it's on the court sleep front row

Starting point is 00:50:50 baseline basket that shit was tight game comeback came back from 30 down bench did it uh

Starting point is 00:50:58 buzzer beater to tie it overtime right it's overtime I'm headed downstairs I'm walking out I left before the end of the fourth you know stupid me oh man traffic Tired. Overtime, right? It's overtime. I'm headed downstairs. I'm walking out. I left before the end of the fourth. You know, stupid me.

Starting point is 00:51:09 Oh, man, traffic. You used to do that at football games a couple times. Traffic is the reason why I'll never go to a football game. Bruh. I'll never go to a football game. It's a lot. It is a lot. Yeah, I'm cool in that.

Starting point is 00:51:19 But. I'm going to see Jets-Dolphins this year. Traffic be damned. I'm going to see. Don't skipolphins this year. Traffic be damned. I'm going to see them. Don't skip over that Dolphins-Buffalo game. That's a big one. It's a big one. He's speeding. I'm not skipping over.

Starting point is 00:51:31 He's speeding. I'm not skipping over. Don't skip over that one, baby. I'm not skipping that one. I'll be up early. Stupid me again on Thursday night, flipping through channel 501 to 693, trying to find the football game.

Starting point is 00:51:46 I keep forgetting about this. So it ain't on TV at all no more? No, it ain't on no damn TV. Amazon. Didn't they used to

Starting point is 00:51:52 do this shit on TV? NFL Network. Yeah, it's on my shit. No, the game was not on NFL Network. Not on Prime. No, I know

Starting point is 00:52:00 Prime has a channel. That's the streaming. Prime has a channel. NFL Network is a channel. Yeah, there is the NFL shit too. I got that too. Hey, Prime got a channel. NFL Network is a channel. Yeah, there is the NFL shit too. I got that too. Hey, they was playing the Dolphins the last game.

Starting point is 00:52:10 Dolphins-Ravens. Yeah. Dolphins-Ravens. They was playing that game. I'm sitting there jamming the two away. Hold up. I've seen a few of these moves. They got the Bengals on Thursday.

Starting point is 00:52:20 That's sweet. They got two going off again on the Ravens. They play back to back up. We ain't got to talk about the Thursday night game. Oh, yeah, you're right. It's a sore subject. The second that Kenny Pickett starts starting for the Steelers is when I'll get my Deontay Johnson money

Starting point is 00:52:38 or whatever his name is in fantasy. He good for a good 12 points. A good 12. Fucking Miss Trubinsky. Anyway, Emei Udoka. The story is updated. fantasy he good for a good 12 points a good 12 fucking miss trebinski anyway ma udoka the story is updated he has been suspended for the entire 2022 2023 season it's crazy i watched steven a the next day go on air and say there will be more details to come out about this story i am privy to them i will not not share them. I then watched BSO Sports and a few other people

Starting point is 00:53:09 try to get into what those details might be. Allegedly, there may be more women than one. Allegedly, who the woman or women are and their relationships with whoever and just who they be. I saw on Twitter that one of them may have been

Starting point is 00:53:30 an executive's girlfriend or wife or something like that. I don't know if that's true or not. Vice president's wife or something like that. No, you can't hit her. Yeah, it might be the... She can't hit him. I'm talking about you work for that organization. You can't hit her.

Starting point is 00:53:45 She can't hit him. She can't hit him. I heard what you said. Can y'all speak up and have the back and forth? Yeah, right? I said you can't hit her. No, I heard, but can y'all have the actual back and forth? No, I'm just saying. The whole thing to me is crazy.

Starting point is 00:53:58 I do have a... One of my homegirls used to dance for the Nets. Okay. And they had a show. What was her name? I don't know. What was her favorite color? On court or after hours?

Starting point is 00:54:11 For the Nets. On court or after hours? That's a good question. For the Nets or in Nets? Yo, they had a super, duper strict no fraternization policy. Like, they really couldn't even say hi to the players. So I don't know what Shorty's role was in the organization.

Starting point is 00:54:30 Or Shorty's. It may be several you said. I'm not even going with the alleged. I'm for that man. I don't know what her role was in the organization but him as a coach might have had some direct contractual shit where you can't

Starting point is 00:54:45 talk to them yeah sticky was a position of power type of situation power opens up the door for sexual harassment if you're in a position of power so he should have been more responsible but I do think that suspended for the whole entire season is a stretch and it's all gonna be more that's a stretch to me yeah I agree I completely agree. Without knowing the full details. Is it suspension with pay or without pay? Oh, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:55:10 You get what I'm saying? Well, apparently they already have spoken about lowering his salary. Wow. When he returns. You're out of your low mind. I got to the championship next year. Go ahead, let me go.

Starting point is 00:55:23 I'll go over here get some other executives wives it's like no I'm playing I'm joking but no I just I just don't so is the girl gonna get fired

Starting point is 00:55:32 see that's the thing like I didn't hear anything about any any penalty for her not if it's the vice president's wife and now we have a problem here in L.A. I'm calling Theo

Starting point is 00:55:42 I'm calling some high priced lawyer that's gonna come get me out of this she has no penalty but I do you know what I'm saying like that's crazy to me

Starting point is 00:55:53 I agree she's married to that dude yeah if the story's true I don't care who she was married to shit alright

Starting point is 00:56:00 shit and that matters you do acknowledge that that matters no of course it matters. It wouldn't matter to my attorney. But look, Ish, that was the reason why I said he can't hit her. I never did like it.

Starting point is 00:56:09 That was the only reason why. Don't start. I'm joking. I'm joking. I signed up for the $25 Patreon to get this joke. You don't know what that means. But no, I just think that that's unfortunate. I think that in sports, we've seen a lot of entities do way bigger shit.

Starting point is 00:56:31 Like, fam, you would have thought he stole $5 million from the state of Mississippi. And you know that. I would have thought he did that. The coverage that this shit got about him getting some side box. And look how that just brushed Brett out the way. That shit is crazy. Not just Brett. got robert sarver out the way too that too like a big title way quick what he got suspended for a year the same amount of time that uh he made think about that are they equivalent the owner of this organization been using the n-word in all

Starting point is 00:57:07 types of obscenities for a decade and he got a sexual harassment shit in there too and with a monkey mascot word with an h i'm not over that too it's symbolism and everything so he gets a year suspension my man gets some side box some consensual side box he gets a year suspension that's crazy to me i agree unless it's i'm gonna push back yeah on side box why it might have been his girl no he has a girl please okay or the executive has a girl all right i got a girl at home how long you think how long you think it takes for me to come up with defensive schemes how long how many hours out the day am i spending where i went to the finals too at a girl at home. How long do you think it takes for me to come up with defensive schemes? How many hours out the day

Starting point is 00:57:46 am I spending where I went to the finals too? Some zones. Who had to come up with... A little 2-3 zone. Yeah. A little 1-3-1 press.

Starting point is 00:57:55 We had to spend a lot of time together to come up with that 1-3-1. All right? The back motion screen. The Jalen Brown pop out. Gave a new word to press.

Starting point is 00:58:06 Press. Yeah. Where is the appreciation for the work that we did? No doubt. And then they're going to put out the story to say some people in Boston knew about it. I bet you did when he was on his run to the finals, God damn it. You didn't step on it then. And I don't like that.

Starting point is 00:58:20 I agree with Steve and A. Why y'all leak this? Why y'all leak this if not to devalue the man? True. Because you didn't let him go. Because if you would have let him go, it would have said. He would have got snatched up tomorrow. And it would have just said, M.A. Adoka has been fired.

Starting point is 00:58:35 Or we have parted ways with M.A. Adoka. That's all it would have said. But the punishment wouldn't have been there. Because now he can go get a job making more money tomorrow. I know, so now you're going to slander his name. So my only question in this is... Give him the worst week in the house that he's ever had. Man.

Starting point is 00:58:53 Well, look, my only question is this, because if this is their policy, is there like a code of conduct, manual or something, where it outlines, yo, if this happens, this is what you do? I'm sure. So then in that case, would they be writing... Firing them? No, not firing them.

Starting point is 00:59:09 If they say, yo, we have a strict no-fragilization policy, if this happens, we can do A, B, C, D. Yes. And then say, alright, well, we found, we have evidence that you did it, and we're suspending you per this policy. Cool. So now, how many times

Starting point is 00:59:25 have we seen for players that they like or players that they rock with or executives that they rock with it's xyz has been suspended for conduct detrimental to the organization oh without actually without exposing what this man has done you yo he got suspended for whatever you get i'm saying they could have kept it undisclosed why he got suspended. Some organizational shit. They put it out there. They know, you know what I'm saying? Like they got the ladies

Starting point is 00:59:50 picture on. The executive ain't care that much. Her picture blasted all over the media. You feel what I'm saying? So, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:00:02 Yeah, and it's not fair, man. I just got to keep her job. I'm funny. No, that's funny. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. Ship Calco's mask to the bullets.

Starting point is 01:00:23 Hey, Rob. Or not Yo Nah I just think I don't think that's cool Yo I just don't Yeah it's just trash

Starting point is 01:00:31 You know what I'm saying They're still rebuilding Over there at the Lakers We need young players Oh She got tight Pippin over there Don't do that

Starting point is 01:00:43 Don't do that Yo we need young shooters. To surround LeBron. Yeah, I know. Anyway. Anyway, and I fuck with Junior Buster. Well, still on basketball. We're not off of this.

Starting point is 01:00:59 We ain't done with him. Are you shitting me? You said, oh, okay, good. I thought you was done. Good. Well, you all done? That said, okay, go ahead. I thought you was done. Go ahead. Well, you're all done. That was it.

Starting point is 01:01:07 That was it. Ice is about to bring us up. No, no, no. I was saying something else, but go ahead. What?

Starting point is 01:01:11 What about the son's owner who said he's going to sell the team? Oh, yeah, he's selling now. Now he's selling. He's going to profit from his racism. Don't they all?

Starting point is 01:01:19 But that's the ego thing. Like, y'all own this shit. Y'all can't tell me what I want to do. I'm a billionaire white man and ain't nobody tell me what the fuck to do. I'm a billionaire white man. Ain't nobody tell me what the fuck to do. I don't know if he want to get rid of that team.

Starting point is 01:01:29 Yeah, I don't think he want to. And he's getting rid of both teams. Yeah, he's getting rid of both teams. He might just be getting rid of the team. You know what I mean? No, they're getting him out of there. No, no, they're going to get him out of there. They're Donald Sterling-ing him. Yeah, okay.

Starting point is 01:01:38 They are. Again, like we said, I remember before, I believe it was PayPal or somebody. Once them sponsors start saying, hey, I'm out, that shit means something. Oh, now you're affecting the bottom line. Hey, dogs, you got to move. Or your product don't want to play. I remember that. I knew that was happening when LeBron says, LeBron, we're more than you.

Starting point is 01:01:58 He don't even play here. He don't even play here. Yo, that's crazy. Goes back to our argument the other day. Which one? When Omar was here. You know what I'm saying? Like, when Omar was here.

Starting point is 01:02:11 Same shit. Like, when Chris Paul, I remember when the Donald Sterling and them shit happened. They wasn't going to play. It was the playoffs, I think. They wore their shirts inside out. It was just black shirts. They didn't want to represent the Clippers. None of that.

Starting point is 01:02:24 They only played because they like yo the brotherhood of basketball players worked this hard to get to this level we owe it to ourselves from our double practices and all that shit

Starting point is 01:02:33 to be here they don't want to fuck with him Chris Paul and them don't want to fuck with him especially after coaches and shit came forward what used to be the coach

Starting point is 01:02:41 short brown skin dude Doc? No that coached Phoenixoenix oh money no no no it wasn't my previous coach he bought it out a long time ago that he went in the office and homeboy said the nigga word and he asked him like yo you can't say that and the dude was like why can't i y'all say it all the time oh Oh, my God. What coach said that? No, Sarver said that.

Starting point is 01:03:07 Oh, Sarver. Said that to, it was a Phoenix coach. You can pause it and find it. No, it's not. Oh, it was Earl Watson. Got it, yeah. Earl Watson. Earl Watson, I think. Earl Watson.

Starting point is 01:03:18 And he said that to him and was like, yo, you can't say that, bro. And he was like, why can't I? Y'all say it. That's crazy. And I'm signing your check. If I was Devin Booker, I wouldn't want that, bro. And he was like, why can't I? Y'all say it. That's crazy. And I'm signing your check. If I was Devin Booker, I wouldn't want to stay there and play. You want to go to New York or something? You want to go right into New York.

Starting point is 01:03:34 You're playing Manhattan somewhere. You want to go to the diverse, melting pot of culture and ethnicity. We all know you're a forward thinker, Nolan MR, you know? Nolan. Nolan. Let's give it to Nolan, actually. Nobody was happier than Dolan. Nobody was happier than Dolan.

Starting point is 01:03:54 What? Took some of the flame away from him? Oh, no. He ain't got no flame around him. He chillin'. I'm just saying. What are you telling me? That the sun sold for what?

Starting point is 01:04:05 Say less. Got it. That is true. You don't be happy when they put up a new building across the street or it sell for something stupid? You don't go check your shit? What much it worth now? Property value going up.

Starting point is 01:04:18 If the Knicks ever cared about winning, oh, man, they'd be really valuable. Forced to recommend. That's the only shit. One of the drawbacks they said for the Knicks was they can't do a stadium. Like, you get what I'm saying? There ain't no way to get them another new stadium. So it devalues them.

Starting point is 01:04:35 Everybody else, the first thing they do is the city will pay for a new stadium. And that's one of the pitches. Like, Golden State got their new shit. L.A. got their new shit. Everybody got their new shit. Man, they could get a new stadium, dog. Nine Manhattan, you can't. Nigga, they just tore down Yankee Stadium and put a new one up.

Starting point is 01:04:50 They can do that to the garden. I'm just saying, though, they can do that to the garden. They did it to the garden. They did it to the garden. They can do it again. They redid it. The garden, they just spent a shit ton of money to redo the garden. I know.

Starting point is 01:04:59 When you go inside, it ain't like the old garden. It's done. Oh, okay. They did that like two years ago. I remember. What'd you do? Were you just going to keep buying $35 hot dogs and not see no improvement around here? I mean, they did that for a long time.

Starting point is 01:05:10 It's like church with the building fund. What you mean? Absolutely nothing. I don't know what you mean by that. Give me an example. Rev need a new Bentley. Rev had a few. Shout out to Rev Raw, man.

Starting point is 01:05:27 Rest in peace. Listen, I got a question for y'all. And I love when these types of things come up because the internet start posting shit and then I get to read and see exactly who everybody is. I love that. So for some of y'all out there on the internet, I'll ask it to y'all like I'll ask it to y'all.

Starting point is 01:05:48 Why you can't cheat on me alone? I have no idea. Anybody can get cheated on. You can cheat on me alone. That shit didn't make no sense to me. It made sense coming from here. And I say this with all due respect to me alone. With all due respect, of course.

Starting point is 01:05:59 Because I don't think she has anything to do with this story outside of her just feeling the pain that comes with this. But I'm talking about these niggas. They be like, you cheated on her? You cheated on... Hey, hey,

Starting point is 01:06:15 you know my response. Yeah, she had short hair when I was looking for long hair. What was that shit that number three said that one time? No, fucks. For every bad...

Starting point is 01:06:22 There's a... Fuck that. There's an N-word tied to fucking her. Did y'all listen to Lemonade, nigga? Fuck are we talking about? Show me. Pause.

Starting point is 01:06:36 It's a Beyonce album. I know what Lemonade is. I don't remember the- You didn't know what the Outkast Diamond album was. You didn't know what She Lives in My Lap, Roses. I didn't know what the one song was. And the second. I knew what the second song was.

Starting point is 01:06:50 All right, then my apologies. I think the insinuation there is if you can cheat on Beyonce, then anybody can get cheated on. Allegedly, Lemonade was a response to something. Gotcha. I mean, when life give you lemons. Thank you. Thank you, Ish. Gotcha. I mean, when life give you lemons. Thank you. Nah,

Starting point is 01:07:08 I think that comes from the jokers that never had no fire. You want to focus. All right. You want to focus, focus on this. Do you know who I am? This is why. This is why we couldn't never work out near.

Starting point is 01:07:23 Do you know who I am? I know. I just, I said your name. I know who you are. This is why we couldn't never work out near I told you when he get on he gonna leave You just want some t*** put it out the a**, n***a. Nah, that's what you're saying. Never had nobody fly. I love seeing all these n***as that never got no pussy. Just telling themselves. Yeah. I can't believe you risked your job and knee along for some pussy. Nick, are you a man?

Starting point is 01:08:05 Have you ever had some pussy before? Are you a man? Yeah, for some pussy. Nick, are you a man? Have you ever had some pussy before? Are you a man? Yeah, some good pussy. What are you talking about? The updated one. Hit, you got to hit update. You got, hey, that little tattoo right there, that's by a pelvic.

Starting point is 01:08:19 That's an update button. That's like a restart. That's a button, yo. You know how your bowling ball gets stuck in the pins? You got to go hit the, where the button at, man? Little thingamajiggy. Oh, man. That's all, that new 2022 updated pussy.

Starting point is 01:08:32 Woo! If you have it, go get you some of that. That should be so, I go to OnlyFans, the girl on there fucking her husband. I be like, yo, you getting that shit, yo. You getting that shit. You are good, go ahead, nigga. You deserve this. You deserve that. Go ahead, nigga. You deserve this.

Starting point is 01:08:46 You deserve that. What's wrong with this guy? You ever watch a nigga fuck? I done did that. He's killing. He's doing that. I done did that same thing right there. You be dabbing him up all the time. Yeah, nah.

Starting point is 01:09:02 This nigga's going crazy. That's so stupid, yo. He's nuts, yo. You dabbing the nigga up. Yo, you caught that. This man's niggas going crazy. That's so stupid, yo. That's nuts, yo. Dabbing the nigga up. Yo, you caught that. Can't cheat on me a long. Nigga, where near long? Where?

Starting point is 01:09:15 Fucking play every mind game in the world near long. Yeah. Especially if I could use the finals for an excuse. Shit, all I had was rap. Baby, no. Tomorrow's game is on Channel 7. This game plan's important. 30-point loss last game.

Starting point is 01:09:32 I'll be back in a month. I won't be here for three days. I'll be back in a month. Send me, send me, send me, Michelle, my girl. Girl, I be gone till November. November. And he had a nice co-worker?

Starting point is 01:09:48 That's the other thing. I hear a lot of the athletes, and Stephen A said this as well, that this is far more common in sports than we know it to be. I'm sure. Like all the sports. He would know. All the sports. It's common in regular jobs.

Starting point is 01:09:59 People be fucking their co-workers all the time. Like Stephen A would know. I was going to. I was going to. Are you paying the camera to issue anything? fucking the co-workers all the time like I was gonna say that Matt Barnes said the same thing but then I went to his page to play the video and he put up a video saying I was wrong so last night I spoke on this situation without having all the facts oh shit out the media often the media speaks to something and when they're wrong they won't come out and say it. And since I'm a part of the media now and I try not to be like everyone else, I try

Starting point is 01:10:49 to, you know, report and talk with facts and honesty. I love Matt Barn, Joe. And I clearly have to say last night, without knowing all the facts, I spoke on Eme Udoka's defense. And after finding out the facts after I spoke, I erased what I posted because this situation in Boston is deep. It's messy. It's a hundred times uglier than any of us thought.

Starting point is 01:11:17 And that's why I erased what I said. Some things happened that I can't condone, I can't back. And it's not my place to tell you what happened if it ends up coming out it ends up coming out but that was the reason why i erased my post last night because after i posted it i got a call from someone who had all the details and the shit is deep so, praying for everybody involved. So we got to undo our jokes that we just said? No, we don't have the facts. Oh, we don't have the facts. I mean, unless you act like Ice.

Starting point is 01:11:52 I ain't got the facts. Me neither. Nah. Nah, but everybody's saying that, something like that. So maybe this is far deeper than just I fucked somebody's wife consensually. Oh. What could he have done? Yeah, that's what I'm like.

Starting point is 01:12:10 What the fuck goes deeper than that? Someone spilled the tea. I thought we were the spill the tea boys with the new couches here. We don't have the tea. Damn, we ain't got it. I thought I saw some tea in the fridge. Don't play. I can take a walk and go get it.

Starting point is 01:12:21 I'll find out. But I wouldn't spill it because everybody that know it keeps saying, not my place to spill it. Everybody said, far away from that shit. Yeah, and there's a reason for it. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:12:31 All right. That tell you that either goes up or you get some foul shit. Some foul, foul, foul, foul shit. It's a handsome man, man. The handsome niggas got some foul shit they did with a girl.

Starting point is 01:12:42 Speak for yourself, pal. Who said I was handsome? But thank you. Thank you. Oh, you thought you was feeling it? You thought I was feeling it? Yo, why you be doing this, yo? Huh?

Starting point is 01:13:01 Because that's how you got to say it. Oh, you got to add the size. How you just going to say, yo, you thought I was like with your shoulders? You got to tell, nigga say, you thought I was like with your shoulders? You got something, nigga? Fuck you thought you was. Oh, y'all thought y'all was booking me? My price just went up. You nigga dead. Cracking them niggas.

Starting point is 01:13:15 Yeah, you promoters ain't getting no ice spice. No five grand. Anyway. It's over for that. So we will try to keep you updated, even though this is going to break soon This story is going to break Because he got suspended for a year

Starting point is 01:13:29 They're going to have to give some justification For suspending him that long After you went to the finals last year Your team only got better It had to be something serious And then said And we will discuss What's going to happen with him going forward

Starting point is 01:13:44 That's true. He might have done something foul. Yeah, he did something foul. Yeah. Like, think about it. We went to the championship. Capitalism rules. They got better as a team.

Starting point is 01:13:56 They got better as a team. They did. They sweeped that. So for them to suspend him for the year and they could potentially go right back to the Eastern Conference

Starting point is 01:14:03 finals and potentially the championship, he had to the Eastern Conference finals and potentially the championship, he had to have done something a little severe. Speak while we're on the topic of Boston, let me just get out

Starting point is 01:14:12 another fuck you to Danny Ainge who traded my man, my man, Badyanovich to the fucking Pistons for a salami sandwich. Not even a good sandwich.

Starting point is 01:14:24 Whatever there is for him to do despite the Knicks, he does it. Y'all know Baljanovich is my man. Are you sure? No, that's my man. I fuck with both of the Baljanoviches. Who he traded for? A Newport. Just a Lucy?

Starting point is 01:14:43 A Lucy? A Lucy. One loose Lucy. A Lucy? A Lucy. One loose Lucy. A pineapple hookah head. Yo. Tell me. You just looked it up? Tell me.

Starting point is 01:14:53 Read it out loud. In a bag of Twizzlers? Thank you very much. Who was it? Read it out loud. Let me hear it. Kelly Olenek and Saban Lee. Kelly Olenek is the tall white kid.

Starting point is 01:15:02 You know who Kelly Olenek is. And Saban Lee is a young boy. He's a young boy. They ain't Bonavich. You can tell they're trying to lose every game in the world. You know what would be poetic justice? I know this won't happen. Don't laugh at me as a Nick fan.

Starting point is 01:15:18 If the Knicks got Vic in the draft next year. If the Knicks got the number one pick in the draft next year and got Vic, that would be a fuck you to Danny Ainge. I don't see that happening. So you think Danny Ainge is just purposely saying fuck the Knicks? Yes. I said that to you after the Mitchell draft. Yeah, but I wasn't sure

Starting point is 01:15:33 that was just Knicks. Yeah, that could have been saying Mitchell. Charles Barkley said the same thing. Charles Barkley said, I went to dinner with World Wide West last night and I asked him. I said, yo, what happened with the trade? Oh, I came in and said that too. And he said they wanted my daughter, my granddaughter, my...

Starting point is 01:15:49 They wanted my relatives, my mom. And no, I couldn't do that. And they only wanted it from me. Everyone else was a little lower. Yeah, because... And you heard... And the first thing Donovan Mitchell said on his interview with Brian

Starting point is 01:16:04 Winhurst. Brian Winhurst. Brian Winhurst said, well, we all thought you were going to the Knicks. How did you feel? This is the first time we ever heard him address it. And Donovan Mitchell said, won't lie to you, I thought I was too. Oh, shit. So now if he knows that, or if he felt like that, and we felt like that here in New York, knows that or if he felt like that and we felt like that here in New York and y'all lost to a Luka Doncic-less Dallas team how do you think the owner and organization at Utah feel oh you sold

Starting point is 01:16:34 us up the river we got you that wasn't coming from Nick Fangio that was what would you do in that situation I'm certainly not sending you where you where everybody's waiting for you to go. Right. That's what I'm saying. There might not be a fuck you to the Knicks. There could be a fuck you to Donovan Mitchell. Both. It was both. It was the Knicks and him. I see it being him.

Starting point is 01:16:57 I don't care. We'll send you anywhere. All you got to do is look at the trade packages. All you got to do is look at the trade packages. They got something back from Cleveland, though. What did they get? They got Colin. They got Colin. They got some picks.

Starting point is 01:17:10 Colin, they've been trying to trade for a bologna sandwich for a while now. Yeah, I bet you would if you got Darius there. So it makes sense. They didn't want him. And it was time for him to re-up. Colin make money. Get him out of here. Yeah, he got paid.

Starting point is 01:17:22 He got to go. So we got to get rid of that salary. And he a young dude. He still puts the ball in the basket. He does. And who were y'all offering that was on Collins' level? I'm just asking. I don't remember who y'all was offering.

Starting point is 01:17:33 It's according to the Knicks. They had a bunch of different variations, and R.J. Barrett was included in them. League-wide, R.J. Barrett is better than Collins' ex. League-wide, league-wide, RJ Barrett is better than Carl Sexton. Tomato, tomato.

Starting point is 01:17:50 No, it ain't. No, it ain't. No, it ain't. Okay. I'm just saying, I don't necessarily know if it was geared toward them. Like I said,

Starting point is 01:18:01 I think it was more geared to him. Moving on. We don't care. We don't care. Not our job. Above our pay grade. Thought to him. Moving on. We don't care. We don't care. Not our job. Above our pay grade. Thoughts and prayers, man. Thoughts and prayers.

Starting point is 01:18:09 Everyone involved. Because it does sound like it's about to get bad, though. In Boston. It sounds like it's about to get bad. Oh, yeah. Them details will be out, though. They're not going to keep that. Oh, no doubt.

Starting point is 01:18:18 Before this podcast come out, maybe. Yeah. It's possible. The way they talking. And if Matt Barnes is reacting like that. And he walked his words back. they talking and if Matt Barnes is reacting like that and he walked his words back I'm riding with Matt Barnes

Starting point is 01:18:29 sincerely yeah I'm riding with he walks his words back with some sincerity I'm riding with whatever Matt Barnes is thinking or feeling

Starting point is 01:18:34 about the situation part of why I love Matt Barnes is his toughness as a player his rebrand as a retired player and his message but also part of that is he tries his best to appear like the rebrand is complete,

Starting point is 01:18:48 but you can still see the hood. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He got it. Both of them. I know, but that's why I fuck with them. Both of them. Great.

Starting point is 01:18:56 Shout out to All The Smoke. I'm riding with whatever they say about this. I'm leaving this to the athletes. Yeah. That's y'all mess. Internal shit. When a podcaster get up and fuck somebody's wife, then I'll come in here and maybe have to give some inside details

Starting point is 01:19:11 or some shit. You going to snitch on Ice? Hey. You think Ice is going to be the one? He said he was going to let Jeannie Buss bake. And you don't walk that back either. What? Jeannie Buss?

Starting point is 01:19:23 Yeah. I'm cool. Just waiting for Martha to come in there with that apron on. With the apron on. I said it. Apron off. Melly just hit me. She on her way.

Starting point is 01:19:36 That's what's up. That's what's up. Big fan of her music. Same. Same. Give me four songs. I'm joking. I know you good

Starting point is 01:19:45 Yeah yeah Bet you fit Nevermind You my dude My man Rolling Loud She's here for Rolling Out Oh word

Starting point is 01:19:53 Rolling Loud Is that this weekend? Rolling Loud is in City Field The way Aaron Judge Will be soon Yo You like that right?

Starting point is 01:20:03 He gonna be tight He gonna be mad Pop gonna be so tight The Mets will spend The Mets will pay How about you on? You like that, right? He's going to be tight. He's going to be mad. Pop is going to be so tight. The Mets is bad. The Mets is bad. How about you, Walt? Pop just told me that that dude is the richest owner in baseball.

Starting point is 01:20:13 I didn't know that. The Mets? He a couple billions up. He paid a couple billion for the team. That don't tell me I'm the richest guy. I'm the biggest nigga here. They already know. One trap ahead a year, four times in a row.

Starting point is 01:20:29 Like when you walk in there, when you got the most money at the poker table, it's just a different level of comfort. All my chips and all your chips is different. It's levels, baby. I can believe it. I'm all in. With all that we've seen from people catching the record-breaking football or baseball,

Starting point is 01:20:47 and Tom Brady coming to get it back, and A-Rock coming to get it back, and giving you a jersey and some hockey sticks, if y'all caught... No. No. The answer is still no. If y'all caught... No, let me finish.

Starting point is 01:21:01 If y'all caught the Aaron Judge 61st or 62nd record-breaking ball, would you sell it? How long after would you sell it? And what would you sell it for? That's my question. That is tricky, though. Yeah, yeah. That is tricky.

Starting point is 01:21:18 It stocks. Yeah. Well, go ahead. All right, so it's scary with the 60th And 61st ball Depending on when he hit it So it's 14 games left So let's say he smacked

Starting point is 01:21:32 Two of them shits Out the park Tomorrow I'm selling the ball ASAP Cause I think he gonna Smack some more out Yeah but that's still the ball It's still the values

Starting point is 01:21:42 No it don't 65 is the ball now No way The record breaking ball Is still the ball that's still the ball. It's still the values. No, don't. 65 is the ball now. No way. The record-breaking ball is still the ball. The record-breaking ball is the ball. It's still a ball. Those balls will get money, but the record-breaking ball, pause. But the record-breaking ball will be the most valuable, you think? Yeah, the record-breaking ball. Really?

Starting point is 01:21:57 More valuable than those balls. But this is what keeps losing me. I thought Bonds got the record, but because it's an asterisk next to that, they're not... That's a different record. That's a different record. That's a different record. All right. So what's the record that we're talking about here? We're talking about the Yankees.

Starting point is 01:22:10 Oh, Yankees. The Yankees single season home run record. And it would also be the AL. AL. AL. Yeah. The AL record. And Yankees.

Starting point is 01:22:21 Got it. Okay. Okay. Thank you. I'm not. And with the asterisk. And with the asterisk. And with the asterisk. It's the Alcalon Water record.

Starting point is 01:22:28 Hey, Pop, who's the commission of baseball? Is it still Bud? Still Bud Sealy. Sell it. I'm selling it all immediately. I ain't heard nothing about a steroid test. I ain't heard nothing about a, what's the name of all them little reports that was popping up?

Starting point is 01:22:47 None of that shit. They ain't sitting, they ain't sitting at a league official over there at a Yankee stadium in the Bronx. Hey, Jose's not playing no more. He don't got the T anymore. Hey, man, listen. Bud, see, they so fucking crooked over there.

Starting point is 01:22:59 All right, what up? But to answer your question? I'm selling immediately. Yeah, y'all didn't answer. I don't want the ball just laying around the crib either. You know what I mean? Fam, if somebody bring me seven figures, they can have that ball tomorrow. Tomorrow?

Starting point is 01:23:12 I'll bring it right to you. Yeah. I'm in the cab. I'll deliver. I'm in the cab. They can come get it. You bring them balls right to them. Y'all going crazy right now.

Starting point is 01:23:22 What else? What else? Aries Spears cursed me out. For real? I didn't see it. Oh, wow. You lying. What he told you?

Starting point is 01:23:31 What he told you about yourself? Let me pull it up and read it. I know you got it. I know you got it. Pull it up and read it. I told y'all a few niggas had me fucked up today. Oh, man. Oh, he typed it out.

Starting point is 01:23:41 He didn't curse you out like on a video? I didn't yell at the screen? These niggas don't have access to my voice outside of this podcast. They ain't got no choice but to spell words. All right. Let's hear it. Wednesday. 4.38 p.m.

Starting point is 01:24:01 Ah. Okay. Don't be on some bitch shit. Hit me up and put me on your podcast. So I can have my say. Don't be a fucking coward. Send me his phone number. I reply in typical Joe fashion.

Starting point is 01:24:22 Pardon me? This is not how you start a conversation. This ain not how you start a conversation. This ain't how you start a conversation. Who the fuck are you talking to? Then he went off some more. I won't read the rest. But, uh, yeah, he went off some more. It's always to put me on your podcast. That's just funny.

Starting point is 01:24:43 That's hilarious. In fairness to Ari, if you did have a story to tell off some more. It's always to put me on your podcast. That's just funny. That's hilarious. I mean, but in fairness to Ari, if you did have a story to tell, you would want to tell it, right? Cool. You can't call me cursing though, my nigga. And say, call me a coward and then put me on your podcast.

Starting point is 01:24:57 Put me on your show. And this is our first time talking. I don't want to hear the word bitch in this exchange. Especially when I'm asking you to hear the word bitch in this exchange. Especially when I'm asking you to go on your podcast. No. Well, no, because some of these people, and listen, and this is with all due respect to Aries Spears,

Starting point is 01:25:16 but some of these people out there, they think that their name being brought up in a podcast entitles them to an exchange. Honestly, they think, all right, you sat up there and said what you had to say. Be fair. Invite me up there so your audience can hear what I have to say about this. And let me look at the camera. I do understand that thinking.

Starting point is 01:25:44 I don't. But thinking. I don't. But no. I don't even get that. What the fuck are y'all talking about? Yo, when I talk about y'all niggas up here, I can assure you it is not because I want to speak to any of y'all. I get mad when the phone ringing

Starting point is 01:26:01 is one of you niggas. I don't want to talk to y'all. I just want to talk about y'all. None of it is personal. None of it is personal. None of it is personal. And I told him that as a dog. It's not personal.

Starting point is 01:26:12 I hated your fucking Liz Ote. Your little sketch was nasty. I don't want to talk about that again. I don't want to talk about it with you sitting next to me and you shouldn't want to talk about it either

Starting point is 01:26:20 if we're being perfectly honest. And he wrote something else but I don't read it no more. Once I say what I got to say I don't read no more. once I say what I gotta say I don't read no more once you got your shit off I don't read no more I'll read it later don't I'm gonna toilet or something I think you said you might want to go then get just get your side off whenever you got a platform go tell your story not as big as this up that's not work harder Everybody has their own platform.

Starting point is 01:26:46 That's what I'm saying. If you want to get a word out, you can get a word out. But you certainly don't need me to sit next to you for you to get it out. That's what I'm saying. If I really want to get my side out, you ain't the only person speaking about that. Nigga, a couple million people a week is on this platform. You know what I'm saying? He wanted to get it.

Starting point is 01:27:03 But, dogs, what I'm saying is when the story go out You putting it on your like niggas is running to you you had that there's a light on you at that point get your shit off It's not old this huge platform over here said something. Yeah, but so did everybody else you're not reaching out to them saying Let me come sit over there. He might. Or you can just address the shit. Give your side. Niggas will catch it, report it, and there you go. True.

Starting point is 01:27:31 You ain't got to come sit here to do that. You are correct. If that's what you really want to do. You're correct. Or if it's, I want to use your audience and your platform, then that's different. Now I get the, let me come up here. I'm with you.

Starting point is 01:27:43 Yeah. So. What else we got, fellas? We got your man, designer. Oh, shit. That's my man? I think so. I don't.

Starting point is 01:27:57 Yeah, nigga, you was Timmy Turner at a point. I never. Snapping. Never. Who designer? What good do? Panda. Panda.

Starting point is 01:28:05 Yeah, excuse me. Oh, gotcha. Digga digga it do? Panda. Panda. Good, good, good, good, good. Yeah. Excuse me. Oh, gotcha. Digga, digga, digga, digga, digga. What'd you say? That's what he was saying. H, don't age yourself right now.

Starting point is 01:28:14 What are you talking about? Nigga, that's how the song sounded. We already started off with an old head rant at the beginning of this podcast. Fam, that's how the song sounded. Ice. Yes, sir. Update us. Designer wanted a feature From ESTG

Starting point is 01:28:26 ESTG told him It'd be 75 bands For the feature ESTG told him It'd be $75,000 For the feature Yeah Designer didn't like that

Starting point is 01:28:35 He didn't care for that He went on his phone He decided to talk to the phone And he started Just dissing ESTG Fuck you Motherfucker You got me fucked up Whatever he was saying I don't know I'm not quoting him And he started just dissing ESTG. Fuck you, motherfucker, punk motherfucker, you got me fucked up, whatever he was saying. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:28:49 I'm not quoting him. Then he made another video and said, actually, I know how we're going to settle this shit. We're going to drop on the same day. Oh, no. You're going to drop your shit. I'm going to drop my shit. And we're going to see who sells more. And I just shook my head and just went on, took a piss or some shit,

Starting point is 01:29:07 went on about my business, right? And then I left it alone, and then he put out another video. I only saw the first one. I didn't know he put out a whole EP. Oh. Well, I imagine after those first few videos

Starting point is 01:29:23 that someone called his phone. If you love people, you call them up and say- Hey, yo, yo, dogs. It's a different type of- He does numbers. It's a bad tree to be barking on. Even if they don't do numbers, just- Some people, there's a list of people.

Starting point is 01:29:43 No, we got this list. It's called- It's some number. Leave this nigga alone. There's a couple different types of numbers got this list It's called Leave this nigga alone There's a couple different types of numbers Yeah Yeah 45

Starting point is 01:29:49 357 I'm assuming that Designer got What did LeBron say? Not one Not two of those calls Not three Not four

Starting point is 01:30:03 Five Six I assume that his phone went off A lot after that Hey, you listening to the video You let me know how many times you think his phone wrong I can't, real, real Yes, sir, I already know the vibes

Starting point is 01:30:16 Your boy Desiigner You know what I'm saying I'm just leaving it like that's that man Price You know what I'm saying Word, no disrespect to they camp over there You know what I'm saying leaving like that's that man price from Sam were no disrespect to they camp over there I'm saying in their business over there um but definitely uh we're looking out for unknown artists from saying looking to give you our nice feature go crazy keep the energy right keep the energy You know what I mean Strong We back

Starting point is 01:30:45 We going crazy Shout out Genius Shout out you know what I mean Worldstar Shout out everybody You know what I mean That's You know what I mean

Starting point is 01:30:51 Put out my last release Create Riverton Entertainment Alright niggas Now I fuck with Desiigner And I fuck with their song I've also been on both sides of this I like Desiigner man This. I've also been on both sides of this.

Starting point is 01:31:05 I like Desiigner, man. This is funny. I've been on both sides of this, so I totally understand, yo. I totally get the frustration in reaching out to somebody when you maybe are not at your hottest. Thinking that you're

Starting point is 01:31:21 communicating artist to artist, thinking that you'll get artist to artist conversation versus going to your manager or going to your representation. And then the artists themselves tell you a price that is just out of your ballpark. I totally get your ego being bruised in that moment. Just feeling like, how the fuck is he worth that? And all of that came,

Starting point is 01:31:46 all that he had to sit with in that moment. I dig it. But nah, you can't do that. All right, bet. I'm going to talk to my people and I'll get back to you. There you go.

Starting point is 01:31:57 That's it. That's all you can do. Yeah. That's it. The funny shit about the whole- Or you can be like, yo, damn,

Starting point is 01:32:02 you getting it. Yeah, I don't have that. I'll come back around when I get to it. Yo, come on, big bro. You ain't even got it like that. Yo, let me give you this 30.

Starting point is 01:32:10 Nah, because he's older than me. I'm joking. Let me give you this 30, man. When that stops something. Yeah, I'm just saying. But funniest thing about the first video he put up was when he said,

Starting point is 01:32:20 none of y'all down there can make any music fuck on any New York niggas. Something along them lines. So? I felt that funny because, Desiigner, you're known for a record that sounds like an Atlanta nigga. I mean, that is true.

Starting point is 01:32:34 What are you talking about? That is true. That's what we know you for. Everybody thought it was future. Yeah. Everybody thought that was future. So for you to say that, of all people, was just funny to me.

Starting point is 01:32:45 Yeah. But none of that even matters either. people, was just funny to me. Yeah. But none of that even matters either. No, the purse is the purse. None of it matters. None of this matters. You're a New York nigga calling me. That too. It ain't the other way around.

Starting point is 01:32:54 Exactly. You're a New York nigga calling me, so. Yeah, you can't call me an ugly bitch after you try to talk to me. You know what I'm saying? Like, you just tried to get my number, dog. You can't say, oh, you ugly, you stuck up, ugly, stupid motherfucker. Like, no, I'm dope still. And 75 is 75, the price, the price.

Starting point is 01:33:11 The price, the price. You don't have to like the price. And you don't have to pay the price. We ain't cool. And I'm doing a shitload of features, so some niggas like the price. It also might be, it could be the cool price. And I like some niggas. Or that. I like some niggas like the price. It also might be- Or they cool. It could be the- It's the cool price. And I like some niggas. Or that.

Starting point is 01:33:26 I like some niggas better than you. Sure. So I'm maybe going to lower the price for them. But for you, that's your price. Or that could be the low price, actually. No, but dog, again, I might be- If ESTG say anything above 75 to somebody, then what metric are we going on? I don't know.

Starting point is 01:33:42 But I like- Because he's hot as fish. Yeah, I don't know what he gets. He's hot as fish. I don't know what't know. But I like... Because he's hot as fish. Yeah, I don't know what he gets. He's hot as fish. I don't know what he gets. But I like these people. Some niggas might even get it for free. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:33:51 I don't know you. No, you know what the other problem is, too? You're right. The other problem with that is it's damn near the hottest roster right now. So he can leverage. He can leverage off Moneybagg. Yo.

Starting point is 01:34:05 Gotti. Gotti. 42. Moneybagg Yo. Gotti. Gotti. 42 D- who? Yeah, Yo Gotti. D- Gotti. Black. Black. Black Youngster.

Starting point is 01:34:13 He can leverage off of every one of these. Shit, they got Glorilla. True. Yeah. But she's about to do the same. Hey, Glorilla is going to skip that Ice Spice $5,000 promoter hurdle. Yeah. You're not going to book Glorilla for $5,000.

Starting point is 01:34:30 She did about 12 hours ago. Nah, she had that when that fucking nigga Free maybe first dropped. That is true. That was then. The second week of that song. We've been past that price. He got 99 problems, but the biggest one's me. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:34:46 Yeah. He got 99 problems, but the biggest one's me. Yeah! Yeah! He got all these little bitches. Yeah! Y'all know it, Tommy. Where's Iced Spice, yo? He got 99 problems, but the biggest one's me. He got all these little bitches, but the biggest one is me. That's his art.

Starting point is 01:35:03 That shit is hard, though. That's all he records. And they're killing all your music. Yo, Cardi B. New Glowrilla. Remix. Cardi's ill.

Starting point is 01:35:11 Tomorrow. Cardi's ill. She did it again. Round of applause, God damn it. Clap it up. I got too many people I'll be rapping for.

Starting point is 01:35:19 Cardi don't play. Not about 10. 10? What's wrong with that, though? Ain't shit wrong with that. I mean, for as many people as you know, you go hard for about 10. Pause.

Starting point is 01:35:34 Puff, Jay, Cardi. It's three. See? No, it's more. Puff, Jay, Cardi. Royce. Royce. Royce is family.

Starting point is 01:35:44 Come on. We just about people you go hard for. That's fine. Four. I got a thing. See? Not some more. Couple R&B cats.

Starting point is 01:35:52 You're going to roll with a couple R&B cats. The list is easier for the people that I just am always going to say something bad about. There is a list of those. Yeah. I'm going to always say that. There's one of them that y'all don't want to talk about today nope

Starting point is 01:36:07 nope oh not hip yes you are yes you are you hip come on somebody put it by the rim nope

Starting point is 01:36:14 pause nope no sir alright off that other new music that dropped I'm leaving that alone other new music

Starting point is 01:36:20 that dropped what's anonymous fucking Cam and A-Track album finally came out. It did. EP. It's like EP, I think.

Starting point is 01:36:28 I don't like that. That's an album. I don't like how you sped over how great Cardi is. Oh, yeah. No, we didn't finish that. That was too fast for me. Excuse me. Go ahead.

Starting point is 01:36:34 Get your Cardi shit out. She bought that feature. She did. It was a seven-minute fuck. Get out of here. Hey. Go ahead. Get your Cardi shit out.

Starting point is 01:36:43 You got the feature? One of y'all pull it up I got you Pull it up So we can hear her greatness And her dominance Y'all know I'm in The Bardi High

Starting point is 01:36:54 Bardi Gang Yeah I'm in that Bardi Gang Bardi Gang No question That's what they call She just show you How to do it man

Starting point is 01:37:02 There's levels to this thing She's been Showing you how to do it She's up there She's on that tier to do it man. There's levels to this thing. She's been showing you how to do it from... She's up there. She's on that tier. You got it? Yeah, just try to get to the spot. Yeah, just get to the spot.

Starting point is 01:37:11 It's the iPhone. Pause. Yo, you good? It's not the iPhone. It's not the iPhone. Relax. Yo, what Bank of America do? Ayyyyyy!

Starting point is 01:37:24 Ayyyyyy! Nah, turn it off! Huh? Turn it off. Oh. Me I'm kinda ratchet still so run the type to be Turn up Oh did she put a keeper can't say your name up in my might not fuck with you tomorrow I won't give a fuck about no credits though. I might be rich fuck them all every day to someone saying But that's why I love them Mars Riding with my twin and them, and we all look good as fuck She say she my op, but I don't know how to look her up I know that I'm rich, but I can't help it, bitch, I'm hood as fuck I've been on these bitches' necks so long, sometime I'll fuckin' start I can put you in my business, you might wish me death tomorrow Bitches be on dick today, sing every word of up tomorrow

Starting point is 01:38:00 Bitch, I still got cases open, keep your mouth shut tomorrow Play with me today, then get some sleep, you know it's up tomorrow Say, bitch, I cases open Keep your mouth shut tomorrow Play with me today Then get some sleep You know it's up tomorrow Say, bitch, that's why my friend Fucked on your nigga Both you bitches pussy I think y'all should scissor

Starting point is 01:38:12 She broke the channel But the state weren't even bigger She's throwing shots That's how I know I got it Turn it off, turn it off, turn it off I get my bitch to fuck your nigga Both pussy I think your bitch is your sister

Starting point is 01:38:27 Oh my god Nah that's hard yo That whole record is hard And she kept that Izzet thing going And the video was dope too I didn't see the video I don't watch videos Me neither

Starting point is 01:38:41 Sir records like this I want to watch the video Bet you do When it drops i don't get it yeah i don't get it i don't think you'll fuck glorilla i don't get that one respectfully respectfully the next yo for the next nine years that i see glorilla she better have all seven of them ratchet chicks behind her world it's like a thing at this point and i like she said yo i ain't getting no bbl work i ain't getting none of that done i'm All seven of them ratchet chicks behind him. For real. It's like a thing at this point.

Starting point is 01:39:08 And I like, she said, yo, I ain't getting no BBL work. I ain't getting none of that done. I'm staying slim. I'm staying this. No, please, stop it. No, nigga. Stop it. Stop it.

Starting point is 01:39:15 Can I appreciate that? The fuck? Oh, Ice, please, yo. Can you not pander right now? How the fuck? He not pandering. Thank you, Ish. Thank you. That's him.

Starting point is 01:39:23 That's his bag. Y'all niggas have known me for years. You know how many... What is his bag? Oh, I can't get him. I be protecting his bag. He prefers slim women. There's a slim BBL-ish is what I'm saying.

Starting point is 01:39:36 And Ice has seen plenty of them with a slim BBL. That is perfectly fine. So if this girl wake up a year from now and have a change of heart and say, I want the Slim Girl BBL, what are you going to do? You're going to support it. So what? I could still also support her today saying, this is who I'm staying in. Say it without the veneers.

Starting point is 01:39:56 And then I'll believe it. Take them veneers out and then say, you know what? This is just me. This is just me, y'all. Except take it as I am. Stay the way you are. I know. Hey, they all say that until one of these BBL bitches take their nigga.

Starting point is 01:40:13 Then they take their ass right up there. Like, oh, I see why I lost this. Where I was lacking at. Hey, I think I see where the battle was lost. I'm going to get in trouble. I know that because when y'all get silent. I just let you go. You got it.

Starting point is 01:40:31 All right. Come on. What else? What else? What else? What else? The candidate track drop. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:40:36 Did you listen to it? I started to. I didn't get through it. I didn't get through it. I was kind of confused because the very first song was a verse from Purple Haze 2, which was his last album. Oh. And I was,

Starting point is 01:40:47 I'm listening, different beat, but I was just like, all right, wait, hold on, I heard, and I'm saying the lines like, wait, I heard this before. It's not listed as a remix?

Starting point is 01:40:55 It says, Federal Reserve Version. Oh, okay. I don't know what that meant. Probably means he recorded two different places or something like that. So it's a remix. I, probably just another name for a remix. Yeah. Yeah. It probably means he recorded it two different places or something like that.

Starting point is 01:41:05 So it's a remix. Probably just another name for a remix. Yeah. Only thing changed was the beat. Yeah. But I had high expectations for the project off of the singles that I heard. And I'm a Cam fan. No doubt.

Starting point is 01:41:20 Me too. But after maybe, it was only I think nine joints after track three it just tapered off of me I was like oh all right I'm cool I'm gonna give it a little spin in the car tonight but well you should've been always cool you know nice I don't know and then the last record was Get your drum off. All right, fine. A little tardy. Get a little tardy drum off. I don't know. And then the last record was a record that's been out for at least five years. It was the Dipshits record. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 01:41:57 So I'm just confused. You know. I don't know. Throw them together, joint. Sounds like. Sounds like, you know, got a tour coming up. That too. It could be just, you know, let me put some new.

Starting point is 01:42:11 Or something maybe him and A-Track had started and A-Track was like, let's put this shit out finally. Could have been. Yeah. Shout out to both of them gentlemen. Anything else drop for us? Give us some more could have beens first. I don't have any more could have beens man. And something else did drop.

Starting point is 01:42:24 What else? Tell me. You was telling me. I ain't listening any more coulda bins, man. And something else did drop. What else? Tell me. You was telling me, I ain't, unless the Baby dropped, you said you was excited about it? I didn't say, I never said that. What was the name of the shit? I thought you did. He dropped it. I wouldn't tell you, funny.

Starting point is 01:42:36 No, he dropped a new album, surprise album, called, I think it was Baby on Baby 2. But what stood out was a record on there called Boogie Man. There we go. Yeah, in the what stood out was a record on there called Boogeyman. There we go. Yeah, in the record, he has a line saying that he slept with Megan Thee Stallion the day before all that shit happened with her and Tory. And he was going to keep it G and not say nothing. Or he was keeping it G and not saying nothing.

Starting point is 01:42:58 Was. Then said something. Then it was time to keep it H. I don't understand this shit, bro. Elemental pick. Right off the G H I don't understand this shit bro L-M-N-O-P right off the G I don't get it oh you get it

Starting point is 01:43:10 I don't I really don't understand who said that DaBaby well before I get into this cause I didn't hear it I can play for you please don't

Starting point is 01:43:22 please don't but why is this record called The Boogeyman? What else did he get into? Like, what was the symbolism behind the title? No clue. That's what stood out. It's a new project.

Starting point is 01:43:35 I thought it was some themed something, but it's not. What also stood out to me, because I did see the clip, is that that was line one. Yeah. What was? Early on. The mag shit. It wasn't line one. Yeah. What was? Early on. The mag shit. It wasn't line one.

Starting point is 01:43:47 Early on, though. It was early. Early on. It was in the first stanza. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Got it. Early on.

Starting point is 01:43:54 And it's like track three. I thought it was like the intro or something. Like, yeah, okay, I see what you're doing. But it's... It's still doing the same thing. Mm-hmm. Whether it's the intro or not the intro. This is the point.

Starting point is 01:44:04 What do y'all think about men that do that? I want to get this off the baby. What do y'all think about men that do that? I want to get this off the baby. What do y'all think about men? We've all seen them. We've all met them. We've all encountered them. The niggas that say, yo, I hit that. Or yo, I hit that.

Starting point is 01:44:16 The niggas that go, yo, I hit that. You to death. You didn't ask them nothing. You're just going on about your business, and they tap you and say, yo, you know Shorty? Did that. It sounds so juvenile when you say it as an adult.

Starting point is 01:44:33 It is juvenile. It don't sound... I don't like it. Yeah, yeah. I don't like it. That's the nice way to say it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't need to know what you did with her. I don't like it. I don't like it. That's the nice way to say it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it.

Starting point is 01:44:45 I don't need to know what you did with her. I don't need to know nothing about her and who she fucked, when she fucked. She's in a relationship. You in a relationship. Everybody's in a relationship. Yeah, what that got to do with me? No, I just think you're doing that for the clicks. Absolutely. You kind of fell off a little bit. You know what I'm saying?'re doing that for the clicks. Absolutely.

Starting point is 01:45:06 You kind of fell off a little bit. You know what I'm saying? You was hot as fish grease. And now you just want something to catch. So now the headline is DaBaby says. And that's what happened. DaBaby says, DaBaby says, he and Meg Thee Stallion did XYZ. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:45:22 Two days before the tour everything or the day before the tour everything. It's just going to make the headlines. Yeah, that's the other thing. He didn't just say, yo, I killed that. Yo, I killed that a day before. This man, like, you spent like,

Starting point is 01:45:34 that's messy shit. You know what I'm saying? So, and I get her name is her name. So, I mean, there's a value to you saying her name. But even if you did pop, I would have preferred him just keep it G. My name is her name. So, I mean, there's a value to you saying her name. But even if you did pop.

Starting point is 01:45:46 I would have preferred him just keep it G. My name is still my name. And we cool or whatever the case may be, then. I'm going to read the line because it is a little bit more said than that. And you are right. It is. It's line two of the verse. So the day before she said that Tory Lanez shot her, I was fucking on Megan Thee Stallion.

Starting point is 01:46:03 Waited to say that shit on my next album. Hit it the day before too. But I kept it player. I ain't say nothing about it. This is where it seemed like you really reaching and you just trying to start some shit. Had her pretty boy boyfriend tweeting me ready to die about the chick like a coward. I told you niggas don't play and now you're going to have to handle me. Like, what are we doing?

Starting point is 01:46:28 Oh, so he's just continuing his partisan beef from that exchange. Yeah. That's what this is. Not about Megan. Or about Megan, too. Yeah. It's about all of it. I don't like it.

Starting point is 01:46:38 I don't like it. I don't like it. That's what I got. We grown men. Messy. Leave that catty shit for the women, man. That's what they do. Yeah. we all messy leave that catty shit for the women that's what they do

Starting point is 01:46:46 yeah messy ransom drop you wanna take everything out of me yo dawg no beef

Starting point is 01:46:53 cattiness what can we do ransom work rapping yo dawg ransom work seven days a week B

Starting point is 01:47:00 yeah random stuff that nigga drop an album every two days I like the way he announced it too He's like yo wait I'm independent

Starting point is 01:47:06 Yeah I can drop Whenever I want I'm dropping Wednesday Fuck y'all I like that I love it Went number one on iTunes Round of applause

Starting point is 01:47:13 First time He said it was his first time Going number one Oh congratulations dude Yeah That's big Yeah I love it And they be quality projects

Starting point is 01:47:22 Nah that's a fact He don't drop no bullshit No no no No Joe Biden Um I saw somebody Yeah, I love it. And they be quality projects. No, that's a fact. You don't drop no bullshit. No Joe Button. I saw somebody say, I think now it's safe for all of us. I think now it's safe for all of us to say that Ransom has always been the better rapper between he and Joe Button.

Starting point is 01:47:41 Now, I only bring it up because those types of things make me smile today. Like, I only bring it up because those types of things make me smile today. Like, I was so proud of Rand that he was still rapping, still going, still relevant, putting shit out today

Starting point is 01:47:56 to have people say that. Like, I love that, yo. That is super, super dope. Because a lot of folks don't, didn't. You know what I'm saying? What, continue rapping? Word.

Starting point is 01:48:06 Yeah. And at a high level, too. That's what it is. And man, niggas could just continue to rap. Yeah. But to rap at that skill level for this amount of time, like ran close to 20 years ago. 20?

Starting point is 01:48:20 Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's unbelievable. It's like a new first career to him, too, at this point. I feel like a lot of people are kind of really just getting hip to him. And that's what that independence do. Facts. And that's what it allows.

Starting point is 01:48:33 Because we've talked to artists. We see artists complain all the time, where it's, yo, I want to put my music out. Nah, label won't let me. I can't drop this. I can't do this. Rand's like, yo, I can do this shit in my sleep. Right. So you know what?

Starting point is 01:48:46 Bam, here go another one. Mm-hmm. All right, cool, here go another one. And you got a bunch more coming. And that's what that,

Starting point is 01:48:51 you're absolutely right, and that's what that maturity does. Like, independence does it, and maturity does it. You niggas is Red Bull fanatics. I don't know how y'all don't get the jitteries. I don't know how y'all don't say

Starting point is 01:49:04 rest in peace, Kevin Samuels. Shout to Ram, man. And Kevin Samuels. You think the Red Bull better because it's sugar free? I don't. Nah, this one's good for you.

Starting point is 01:49:22 I do. No bullshit, I do. You think the Red Bull is better because it's light blue on the can. You know I'm a colorist. I didn't know that. Give me an example. Right there. What do you mean? Red Bull.

Starting point is 01:49:37 Red Bull. Stupid, yo. What else they try to give us? Four Locos. What else? What else they give you? Four Locos was a menace. They will do their best to put some crack in the can.

Starting point is 01:49:44 Malt liquor. Malt liquor. Crack. can. Malt liquor. What? Malt liquor, crack, Cisco. Malt liquor. Oh, Cisco, yeah. Cisco. Cisco. That's Cisco.

Starting point is 01:49:49 That was me. That little grape Cisco. Say the odds. I ain't got all that grape Cisco. All you needed was a sip. All you needed was a sip to start feeling woozy. Them niggas don't know about that. They just had the Boone's Farm on fucking the, you started the Dumber shit yet?

Starting point is 01:50:03 No. Oh, my God. Oh, we getting it. We getting that, but let's Dumber shit yet? No. Oh, my God. Oh, we're getting there, but let's not get off this liquor first, because this is funny. That was the first time I knew for sure that something was wrong, because the whole Jersey City said, you know Cisco? Stay away from it. And I went straight into liquor store.

Starting point is 01:50:21 I need that grape. Hey, man, where's the Cisco? I got to see what's up with this thing. Oh, man. Okay. Now, Parks. Yeah. I was at the hookah spot with Imani.

Starting point is 01:50:36 Yeah. And this is how you just got to watch what you say to people. You got to temper your honesty. Sure. Imani says, yo,g, check out that, gotta go home after this, check out that new Dahmer, man. Just dropped on Netflix last night. I said, for real?

Starting point is 01:50:53 He said, yeah. I pull up Netflix on my phone, which is the greatest thing in the world. Like you don't have to be in the house. Right. Just pull it up and see what's going on in the phone. Pull it up, it's sure enough, it's right there. Sure enough.

Starting point is 01:51:04 Like idiot, what's the very next thing I do? You guess it. Text my girl. Yo, flying in this weekend. Yo, you seen that new shit they got on Netflix? Like, dumbass. What happened? The fuck do you think happened?

Starting point is 01:51:21 Did you watch it? Don't watch it without me. Oh, yeah. Something or the other. Like a? Did you watch it? Don't watch it without me. Oh, yeah. Something or the other. Like a goof. You watch it? No. No, he can't.

Starting point is 01:51:30 That's cheating. No, no. That's cheating. Yeah, that's a death sentence right there. Look at Ice. Look at Ice. That might be worse than cheating. Look at Ice.

Starting point is 01:51:36 Yo, one day we're going to do a Patreon on the shows we lied to our girl about and said we didn't watch it. And then when you watch it with her, you still act like no shit happened. Oh, damn. Oh, shit, yo. He shot him.

Starting point is 01:51:51 Now, Imani, that's my man, so he said, yo, nah, go watch the first episode at least. And I was like, nah,

Starting point is 01:51:57 I really love Shorty. Yo, listen to your snitch brain. Yeah, word. That's the first thing I was like, this nigga just let it go. I said, I could just act

Starting point is 01:52:03 like I seen it. He said, yeah. I said, well, I lived through some of this like I seen it He said yeah I said well I lived through some of this I don't know if you could fake that That shit is intense bro And I'm tossing the parks Because everyone that has watched some of this

Starting point is 01:52:14 Tells me this That first scene The whole shit I'm only two Maybe Two or three episodes How many? Ten

Starting point is 01:52:21 Out of ten Limited? You seen the whole thing? I think it's limited. I can't imagine it's a series. It's limited, right? It's just one season and done. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:52:28 Well, he died, so I mean. Yeah, but you know, they could stretch it out. Oh, he's had a son, Dahmer Jr. Don't, don't, don't. Don't, don't, don't. Chucky had a wife. Oh, the bride of Chucky. And a baby.

Starting point is 01:52:40 I had a baby, yes. Dahmer was worse than Chucky, boy. Dahmer was a sick fuck. That boy. Dahmer was a sick fuck. That is hilarious. He was a sick fuck. But why are you telling me? We do murder mystery shit here all the time. So tell me why this one.

Starting point is 01:52:52 He was, I mean, that shit was, he was drilling holes in people's heads and putting acid in it and trying to make them zombies. And while they're alive. It's the whites. Children, like 14 years old. No, he shouldn't have done that to kids. I'm playing.

Starting point is 01:53:10 He crossed the line there. Oh, just because they was kids. No, I'm joking. I haven't seen it yet, but everybody has this same reaction. You got to watch that shit. It's hard to watch, honestly. It is.

Starting point is 01:53:21 Like, of all the murder, like, I'm like... And you wanted them. Yeah, I was going to say. What makes this... Amani, he's right. No, of all the murders, like, I'm like... And you wanted them. Yeah, I was about to say. What makes this... I'm on it. He's right. No, the story's deeper than just that. When you find out all the other things

Starting point is 01:53:33 that came into play, how the cops did more shit. He was living in a black neighborhood predominantly during the crack era. So the cops didn't really give a fuck what was happening. I think most of his victims, if not all of them, were people of color. So they just didn't really give a fuck what was happening. I think most of his victims, if not all of them, were people of color. So they just didn't give a fuck.

Starting point is 01:53:48 His neighbors could smell rotting shit and he would just be making up some lies. She's calling the cops. There was one kid that he drilled the hole in and he escapes and the cops come and they just let him take him back inside. Like, this shit is fucking disturbing. I didn't get that far.

Starting point is 01:54:04 Alright now, what the hell is going on with you? That shit is fucking disturbing. I didn't get that far. All right, now. What the hell is wrong with you? That shit is... We want to watch this. Word. That shit is disturbing. Actually, the opening scene is how he gets caught, so... Yeah, I'm bugging. That shit, man.

Starting point is 01:54:16 Oh, so she's... What's it called? Dahmer? Yeah. All right, cool. Oh, so she's really sick for calling tonight Dahmer and Dick time. You're not going to... No.

Starting point is 01:54:23 I don't think you're going to get on Chubb on that. Nah. You got my dick fucked up. You got my dick fucked up a little bit. It don't matter what's going on. It's going to take her to say, oh my God, did you hear what he said? Please turn that off. Oh, I ain't need none of that.

Starting point is 01:54:41 Driller, not Driller 2. Yeah, I'm here to go to work. I don't know, bro. I don't know I don't know he was a sick fuck can I take this off of Jeffrey Dahmer because

Starting point is 01:54:53 well no before I do that let's stay on this the victim's family Everett Everett family okay that was the girl

Starting point is 01:55:03 that was in court with the y'all seen the shit was the girl that was in court with the... Y'all seen the shit going around. The girl was in court giving the passionate fucking cry. Her family is speaking out saying, how many times are we going to rehash this? Y'all have made a Jeffrey Dahmer doc every year. We've heard from him from jail.

Starting point is 01:55:23 We've heard from... Now y'all are gonna romanticize him i wouldn't call this romanticizing but i do i do completely understand and empathize with them for thinking this shit is terrible like if this shit happened to my little brother or something like that nah i'm probably suing someone the i think the sheer fact that this exists, this one on Netflix, I'm not talking about the real live docs. I'm talking about now a miniseries with an amazing, handsome, talented actor that I hear is killing this role.

Starting point is 01:55:56 He's a good actor, yeah. That is kind of romanticizing him or humanizing him to a degree. I guess so. And if I'm the victim's family, which, and I know, and this is where, call me a hypocrite all day, because this is where it's like really evident with me.

Starting point is 01:56:11 Because I love the murder mysteries. But I'm torn, because if this was my family that was killed by a dude, I would be angry. This is not a doc. You get what I'm saying? Like, it's not a doc.

Starting point is 01:56:22 It's not a doc. Y'all made a short, y'all made a reenactment Or a short motion picture People are getting paid To monetize this death Yeah no doubt To monetize this

Starting point is 01:56:32 Fucking tragedy That he This animal I'm gonna figure out a way I'm calling I'm calling Theo Yeah like These animals have

Starting point is 01:56:40 You know what I'm saying Perpetrated against these people The doc is one thing Cause you talking about it From a mental perpetrated against these people. The doc is one thing, because you're talking about it from a mental standpoint of where these people are a little off. Well, it's just a non-fiction. There's no embellishing or whatever. This story is so crazy, I don't know that you need

Starting point is 01:56:56 to embellish anything. It's the most twisted shit. This dude is different level of fucked up. My other problem with this, right, as much as I love these stories, is y'all are killing creativity. In that, y'all are killing writing rooms.

Starting point is 01:57:14 Y'all are killing jobs and opportunities of creative people that it's their job to come up with these six stories. Y'all just reaching back to the 90s, the 70s, and whenever. Well, go ahead and finish.'m gonna tell you well y'all just pulling up y'all just pulling up real live killers and now making shows out of them and going through that little loophole in uh or the legality that says hey i can steal his whole life mimic it put the little paragraph on the front that says this is

Starting point is 01:57:40 just inspired by you were part saying? Because again, you realize the 70s was 40 some odd years ago. So to a younger demo who may have heard the name Dahmer but don't know nothing. They ain't watched them docs. This was the 90s.

Starting point is 01:58:00 But still. I'm just saying. It's like this is their first introduction to it. My response to that is why do they need to know about Jeffrey Dahmer? Why do you need to know if you don't know nothing about it? The same music

Starting point is 01:58:16 this is a serial killer The word Hitler is like the boogeyman That is true I don't see a bunch of docs. Well, today, miniseries is... There's docs, but you're not really going to see them. I'm talking about limited reenactment. They're not going to get no actor to play.

Starting point is 01:58:35 Yeah, we're not going to do that. So why do the young people need to know about Jeffrey Dahmer? I think it's more, there's another reason why you don't see that. I'm sure. Yeah. But for the same exact reason though. The same exact reason that you don't see that should be the same reason that you don't see that. Right. It's just one group

Starting point is 01:58:53 has more power to make it not be so. And that is the reason. That's the reason. But I'm saying it's still based on the same thing. Yo, we don't want to see that. Yeah. We don't want to see that. That brings back too many harmful memories, etc. etc. should be the same exact reason why you don't want to see that. Yeah. We don't want to see that. That brings back too many harmful memories, et cetera, et cetera. Should be the same exact reason why you don't see it. But again, this movie got that.

Starting point is 01:59:10 They're not going to do a miniseries on 9-11? Nope. Nope. They're not. Maybe 30 years from now, 40 years from now. I was going to say, I don't know. Yeah, they might. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:59:21 I don't know that. I could say it 30, 40 years from now. Yeah. I'm not even saying from now. I don't see it. I could see it 30, 40 years from now. Yeah. I'm not even saying from now. I don't see it. Y'all talking about from an entertainment standpoint. In 30, 40 years, I could see them doing something like that if it was solely entertainment. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:59:31 But from what they said that event meant and who did what and war, they're not about to big it up. I don't know. They won't humanize that, them. Actually, oh, no, we're going to get off of this topic. There's a bunch of little miniseries about some of them from over there that y'all, from that, that y'all took, locked up, threw the law book away, and let's leave this because it can, we don't need to do that.

Starting point is 02:00:03 That's right. And Rob, you can time stamp that name uh what else what else what else what else what else what else do we have I know what else we got I want to take some time to get at fucking Vladimir but I'm not gonna monopolize the space right now to do it I might save it for patreon but Vladimir I'm on your ass. I'm on Vladimir's ass. He just talk too much. He talk, he doing too much talking.

Starting point is 02:00:32 You can still. You can. You gonna sue. But that's why it's triggering for me. That part right there. And this is just a me thing. I'm telling you where I stand and this is just me. Right?

Starting point is 02:00:50 Like my thoughts on the drill niggas or the niggas that like just participate in the lifestyle. The lifestyle as a whole. Like not just the music part of it. But the lifestyle as a whole. So you're committed. You're committed whether you like it, whether you don't like it. Vlad, we've seen sue a nigga. So his role

Starting point is 02:01:10 in this, for me, there's just indicators and signs of who we are. We've seen you sue a rapper when you got hit. We know how you feel when you get hit. My feelings for Vlad will never change because I've seen firsthand the part that platforms play in instigating a beef.

Starting point is 02:01:30 Like Rand just dropped. We talk about all the time. My nigga went to jail. My nigga went to jail. Thought I told on him. Fucking it was violence. Like there was a lot that went on. And this is before content was a lot that went on and this is before uh content was a big word this before

Starting point is 02:01:47 monetizing was like a big word vladimir was was ahead in that but so today you see what's going on and you're like okay i see where the seeds were planted planted right so i'm looking at an interview with fucking adam 22 they still talking about the shit we did here. Adam 22 calls, dad monetized. He calls up fucking Vladimir and they have like this dad son type of talk about all of this shit. And just... His take was what?

Starting point is 02:02:19 I'd have to play it because I couldn't even tell you all of the... Like their take on it and my take on it it's like different but again that's because it's just because too many there's a lot of stupid shit we're gonna play it at some point we're not gonna get there uh a story a story that we forgot to cover was Kid Cudi's album leaking with farts all over it. Yo. I love this. I love this. This is some shit I would love to do.

Starting point is 02:02:48 I love it. I love it. I would love to do that. That's amazing. Now, the fan base is blaming Mike Dean. That's a Mike Dean move, too. I think it was Mike Dean. I wasn't saying I think it was Mike Dean.

Starting point is 02:03:01 You know, by the fan base, I'm talking about me. I think it was Mike Dean, too. That's a Mike Dean fan base. Yeah, I think it was Mike Dean. You know, by the fan base, I'm talking about me. I think it was Mike Dean, too. That's the Mike Dean fan base. Yeah, I think it was him. And Mike Dean going to do it in a way where you can't actually prove it was Mike Dean. But what other brain is going to get the stems and put farts all over your shit? Mike Dean. Shouldn't have kicked me off the tour.

Starting point is 02:03:22 That shit is hilarious, dog. I don't care. That's the kind of petty beef shit I'm here for I like it too absolutely let's do that shit all day let's up the ante with this rap beef shit

Starting point is 02:03:30 fuck killing each other let's put fart noises on each other's mouths and still leak your shit and leak your shit with farts yeah I need a little more of that yeah I want to hear farts

Starting point is 02:03:39 on some of you other niggas songs too there's farts happening in the songs yeah I ain't gonna hold you they already are is there anything else that's super important we got to we have to get to we have another special special guest to stop by oh we didn't really cover the rolling loud shit but our guest is in town for rolling loud I

Starting point is 02:03:57 guess we can talk about it with her actually sitting here on the couch we have a mic here let me get a round of applause set up. Let me just set the scene. I personally have been waiting for this young lady to come visit us for a long time. Huge fans here at the pod. Huge fan. Big fan.

Starting point is 02:04:16 Big, big, big fan. Of everything. Two, really glad that we moved before all these guests started just popping up. I think the move helped. How so? Give me an example. Because when we are down.

Starting point is 02:04:32 Shut up. I hate this nigga, man. Look, I'm about to do like you and actually give an example. No, I'm serious. I want to hear an example. Location. Like without divulging our location. These niggas know where we at. But go ahead. I want to hear the exact location like without divulging our location

Starting point is 02:04:46 I mean these niggas know where we at but go ahead but don't but don't no I know so yeah we

Starting point is 02:04:52 this is a very shit there's a lot of there's a lot of people it's more inviting to the to the guest no disrespect no disrespect at all

Starting point is 02:05:01 like it's just it's just more welcoming it's bigger the space is nicer. There's more leg room, couch room. For sure. Better decor. And it's...

Starting point is 02:05:12 See, now that... They shitting on parts. I ain't gonna hold you. They're shitting on parts. I ain't shitting on parts. It's cool. No, that's not. Yo, fam, the last spot had restoration hardware couches

Starting point is 02:05:21 that cost a shit ton of money. We was just sitting together. Yeah. Couldn't appreciate them. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, my couch was touching Joe's couch, touching Ice's couch.

Starting point is 02:05:31 That was the length of the whole fucking wall. Yeah. You know what I mean? The camera was right there. We got a floating camera now. Yeah. I saw y'all complaining,

Starting point is 02:05:39 like, oh, the back, this is fake behind us and all that shit. Yes, the camera's moving. They said this shit is fake? Yeah. I think we green screened that. Yeah, it's green screen.

Starting point is 02:05:46 Because it's moving. Nah, niggas said, yo. We got some good green screen people. Either this edible kick in my ass or these niggas is floating. We floating, though. That's what it is. We floating. Mike, Mike, check.

Starting point is 02:06:03 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, two, one, two, one, two Girls, it's kicking you niggas' asses out there Niggas' asses, you hear me? Uh, yeah Pull up to your city, bitches up now I've been getting bigger money, slowly Peace on my head, got elevator stairs now Ladies and gentlemen.

Starting point is 02:06:32 Oh, no, cut it off. We don't want nobody holding pussy ransom against good guys. Good guys. That was your cue. Come on, get over here. Get over here. I'll play another record. Hold up.

Starting point is 02:06:47 Hold up. Uh-oh. This one right here now. Come on. Come on, come on. Sit down. You see why I don't give niggas my attention? This won't even give you niggas my attention.

Starting point is 02:06:55 Why am I even calling? Come on, sit down. Here you go. Get comfy. I ain't going to think that he got it, because I'm only here to get his time. Ladies and gentlemen Long overdue

Starting point is 02:07:08 We got Melly in the building No, no, no, but I can't get a hold of you What is he waiting for? Huh? You don't even know nothing about this right here You don't know nothing about this right here now When I waited on the time. When I waited on the text. And when I waited on the ring.

Starting point is 02:07:29 I hope that you don't think you play me like a bitch. Cause I just boss up, nigga, boss up. Esa niña talentosa. Bitch, you're going to be a sunny entity. And then nothing more so. Ain't no nigga can approach her. Come here closer. Let me hold y'all.

Starting point is 02:07:43 Let me tell you about the baddest bitches that I know. If we do no crying over hoes, we get the door. I'm gonna cut this off only because Ice got on gray sweats. Baby girl can't get like me. Put the pussy in the face. Drippin' on the white seat. All right, I'm going to cut this off only because Ice got on gray sweats. Yo, I'm so phony around company. You are. Oh, mic check, mic check. Ladies and gentlemen, the amazing Melly's here. Hey, put that sandwich down nigga and clap god damn it alright

Starting point is 02:08:29 you see him come on let's get this right let's get this right oh no we gotta fix this we gotta fix this mic we'll talk about you like you're not here how do you gentlemen feel about Melly and all of her amazingness I'm ecstatic that you're not here. Ice, Ish, how do you gentlemen feel about Melly and

Starting point is 02:08:45 all of her amazingness? Oh, I'm ecstatic that you're here. Yeah. Yeah, no, we are. Big fans. Yeah, big fans. Big fans. Big fans. All right, so how are you, first of all? I'm doing great. I'm excited to be here. Yeah, I'm excited. Me too. Ish! What? I am a bird I don't care I'm a bird What brings you here To New York? I'm back

Starting point is 02:09:13 I've been away for a minute Like I'm back to see my family And just work on music You just got You got out of DR right in time? Yeah I was in DR She was in DR

Starting point is 02:09:24 Shooting videos And dancing and shit. Shout out to Clyde. Shout out to Clyde out there. I know. I've seen it. I've seen it. I've seen it, too. Seen it, too.

Starting point is 02:09:33 Wasn't no below outfits on. Nah, nah, nah. Not at all. Not at all. How long was you out there? I was out there for a minute. I don't even know, but I was out there for a minute. I could tell you.

Starting point is 02:09:42 Even when I spoke to you the first time, I was out there a lot. Like a minute, minute, two. Like probably a month, right there for a minute. I could tell you. Even when I spoke to you the first time, I was out there a lot. A minute, minute or two. Probably a month, right? Yeah. Yeah, it was about that. Now, for the people that are unfamiliar with you, how did you come to exist? How did you come to do this thing, this music thing? How did you get your start, your break?

Starting point is 02:10:02 How did you realize you were a creative super superpower like when did you come to realize all these things um so I was in PS 197 Harlem and we had like it was like a little fake quiet type stuff and then we'll go to like nursery homes and sing so that that was the start of it. But then I think it was fifth grade or sixth grade. Before Melly, because Melly is short for mellifluous, which is sweet sounding. Wait, wait, wait, slow down. Wait, slow down for a second. My who?

Starting point is 02:10:38 Mellifluous. Your name is mellifluous? No, no, yeah. No, it's Melly. But it's mellifluous? But it's mellifluous, which is sweet sounding. Guys, don't cover your gray sweats now. What?

Starting point is 02:10:50 I'm not chilling, dude. Malifluous. My name is Malifluous. What you gonna say when it comes? Malifluous. Yeah, people be thinking it's Melissa, but I'm like, no, that has nothing to do with it. But I'm actually like Nelly. But I'm actually like Nelly.

Starting point is 02:11:07 So I had like re-embraced it because some guy was like, you not Nelly with the band-aid though. And I was like, you right. So I was like, mm. You had to flip it around, switch it around. So I started like rapping and stuff in like fifth or sixth grade or whatever. So you were rapping first? No, I was singing. Singing first.

Starting point is 02:11:24 But I was always writing because I had kept a journal and stuff. And I always liked poetry. And I used to go to Thurgood Marshall Academy. And they had Brungan, an artist, and his name was Catharsis. And he did like a... Y'all got some wild names. He recited a poem. And at the end of the poem, he said like,

Starting point is 02:11:47 I forgot what he said, but it just blew my mind. So I was like, yo, like rap is different. So I started like really like, he inspired me on that. And then after that, I just kept going. Then I got to high school and stuff. And I went to G-Dubs. I don't know if y'all familiar with G-Dubs, but it's in the Heights. And my science teacher was like, yo.

Starting point is 02:12:09 We're familiar with the Heights. Yeah, we are. A little bit. We've been up to the Heights a little bit. I got transferred over there. So my science teacher and stuff, he was like, why are you here? And I was like, because they said there was a music program here, but there's no music program.

Starting point is 02:12:23 He's like, there's no wrong floor for that. So I was like, okay, because it was a music program here, but there's no music program. He's like, there's no wrong floor for that. So I was like, okay, because it's like divided into floors and stuff. And then after I left, I went to a credit recovery school. And my teacher, basically they take down characteristics to you. They ask you certain things, and then they assign you to a home room. And then my teacher, he happened to be like in a band, like in his like early ages and stuff. So then when I was with him, he was like, yo, like, I really believe in you.

Starting point is 02:12:51 And then I just kept going hard, hard, hard. Yo, what? He was going like, you know, you got to go hard. So then after that, I started just like going to studios downtown. And then I kind of like dropped out and then I was just taking it serious and then boop. I just, after that, fast forward because I'm taking out too much. Yeah, because you did school for that long.

Starting point is 02:13:16 Yeah, I did all the way. Man school. I met Lou, which is here right now, and he was like my manager at the start and stuff and then we was working with the Ron Terrell and stuff so we were shooting stuff outside and then Lou was like you gotta do like the remix to um to Bodak Yellow so I ended up doing it and then it took me like two weeks or something to do it and and then after that like I got signed, boop, then everything just happened from there. Boop. Boop. Boop-a-dee. I like hearing how the girlies got signed

Starting point is 02:13:48 versus how niggas got signed. Niggas had to go stab niggas. Dude, man, you should put some work in it. Niggas had to break and steal cars. Wait, is that a thing or are you joking? No, no, no. Niggas had to really go hard for their deals. You just had to, like, go to school.

Starting point is 02:14:01 Teachers was like, you know what? I see it in you. Yeah. Yeah. That's how y'all teachers be getting arrested. Yeah, they be seeing it too early in the students. Two in you. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:14:15 Oh, man. OK, so then we leave. We got Lou. We making music. But you're making it on your own. You're not writing? I mean, you don't have writers. No, no, no.

Starting point is 02:14:23 I was writing. But I came from Lou and Devontrel. They would be, no. I was writing, but I came from like Lou and Devon Terrell. Like, they would be in the studio. Shout out to Devon Terrell. Yeah, he's definitely talented. And Lou, too. Shout out to you, nigga. But, like, I would always keep, like, them in the studio.

Starting point is 02:14:38 And, like, Lou was always around. And I'd be like, yo, what rhymes with this? And I'd be like, yo, what is this? And he'll be like, oh, well, this is clever because da-da-da happens, so da-da-da, so yes, you should use that. So that's how it all came together. So I'll definitely always, while he was in the studio and stuff,

Starting point is 02:14:54 I always ask him, yo. I'm a rapper, so I'm a fan of rap shit. But I'm really R&B nigga dark. You always support me on that So shout out to you When you get in that bag specifically It does something for me and Ice Put the cup down

Starting point is 02:15:14 She got quite a few bags that do it for Ice Yeah Really? Oh yeah Like what? Do tell Give us an example Rapping

Starting point is 02:15:23 That's one R&B That's two That's a couple A few is three Not's one R&B that's two that's a couple a few is three and her Vivo channel right oh yeah

Starting point is 02:15:30 yeah Vivo yeah that's all the bag your favorite project of yours mine yep

Starting point is 02:15:39 um motions tough I was like Um, motions. Tough. I was like... You kind of got to understand sound effects to deal with this. Nah, I'm Dominican, so we do a lot of like, bow, do it. Boop. What does boop mean?

Starting point is 02:15:59 Boop is like... Yeah. Oh. Wait, wait. Like, it's right there. Okay. Boop is like. Yeah. Oh. Wait, wait. Like, it's right there. Yeah. Okay. Boop is like.

Starting point is 02:16:09 Okay. How do you communicate in your relationships? Like sound effects? Sound effects. Nah. Yo, nigga. And we're back.

Starting point is 02:16:16 And we're back. All right. Shot o'clock. I'm good. All right. So, so, so, Melly was here making sure that reminding us us that it shot a clock again. Exactly. And then Parks and I took shots.

Starting point is 02:16:32 Oh, excuse me, sir. I have mine. Oh, okay. So then we got to Ish. And she asked, is Ish a question? She asked me. That didn't even look real. Would you need to hear the gulp?

Starting point is 02:16:44 Not thinking of the g? Not take another one. Pause, pause, my bad. My bad, my bad. I was smiling. He don't know. So yeah, and the question to you was, Mel, you can ask him again since now we're recording. He said he don't drink, so I said, what do you do?

Starting point is 02:16:57 Yeah, what do you do? Yeah, what do you do? We don't even know. I don't. Lay pipes. What? He's a contractor. I am a contractor.

Starting point is 02:17:08 Sometimes he deals with plumbing. So you don't like alcohol at all, right? Nah, not for the most part. Occasional. Hookah. Occasionally. So say you smoke. I smoke hookah.

Starting point is 02:17:19 Shit, I smoke hookah. Also, you can say that I smoke hookah. Yeah, I smoke hookah. Because a lot of people don't smoke hookah. Pardon me. Like every pool is like you're closer to your death. I pack I smoke hookah. Because a lot of people don't smoke hookah. Pardon me. Like every pool is like you're closer to your death. I pack a cigarette

Starting point is 02:17:27 to something. Pack a cigarette? Yeah. That's what they say. Juan Hookah is like smoking a pack of cigarettes. Is it, does it feel like

Starting point is 02:17:34 you're smoking a cigarette? No. I smoke cigarettes and it does feel like you're smoking a cigarette. Depending on how you smoke it. It's actually more like a cigar. I never had a cigarette

Starting point is 02:17:42 that loved 66 and blueberry mist don't taste like a fucking nicotine. Don't smell like a Newport. I ain't gonna cigar. I never had a cigarette that... I love 66 and blueberry mist. Don't taste like no fucking nicotine. Don't smell like a Newport, nigga. I ain't gonna lie. I got... Little watermelon don't taste like no Newport, man. That love 66.

Starting point is 02:17:51 They used to sell them cigarettes. He put me on that. That love 66 is all right, though. Love 66. You know, it's still my... And I don't even fuck with hookah no more. Love 66. Love that.

Starting point is 02:17:57 I used to be a hookah king, but... Why you don't fuck with it? I got introduced to the THC pen. The vape. She vapes That shit still don't taste nice I don't know I like those You don't like the vape? You smoke weed?

Starting point is 02:18:10 Mm-hmm You don't like the vape? I don't like the vape either The like the weed pen? Yeah I'll do it if there's no weed It's like But other than that

Starting point is 02:18:20 It's like I'd rather smoke like Some bud Yeah Yeah I'm the same way. I feel like it's just smoking a fake thing. No, it ain't. Edibles?

Starting point is 02:18:29 You died, didn't you? You died before. No, no, no. The first time I did it. I'm not going to hold you. I was with my best friend, and we did it in high school. And I really felt, y'all know that alien meme where he's like. Like, that's how I felt felt because my bro, he was driving

Starting point is 02:18:46 mad fast and we had just taken my best friend to her crib. So she stood in the staircase and she's like, bro, I'm so high, I can't go in my crib. Mind you, we in high school, so it's different. If you walk in the crib and your mom see you, it's like, no. So she's in the staircase, she's like, I'm dumb high. And my dumb ass was like, I don't feel nothing. So I took bites of everybody. There we go. So I took bites Of everybody There we go

Starting point is 02:19:05 So I was in the seat Like Like I felt like I was a part of the car Like that's how crazy Take your ego And beat your ass with it It was

Starting point is 02:19:14 I remember when I died After Edible And all I kept saying was Yo I'm really about to be The first nigga To ever die from weed Like I felt like

Starting point is 02:19:23 I'm about to let My whole family down You was praying and shit? Yeah, I was praying. I knew I was done. My toxic trait is eating too much edibles. Like, everyone else is like, how much should we try? I'm like...

Starting point is 02:19:32 Wait, but have you done, like, the whole brownies type of thing? Nah, you die. Yeah, but I have. This nigga has super cookies. And they told everybody, yo, these ain't regular edibles. Mistake was, first off, oatmeal raisin is my favorite cookie. Don't put the weed in the oatmeal raisin and tell me I can't. Oatmeal rais oatmeal raisin is my favorite cookie. Don't put the weed in the oatmeal raisin

Starting point is 02:19:46 and tell me I can't. Oatmeal raisin, that's my favorite cookie. You tell my mom cookies? Yes. That's my favorite. Wait, you make them? No, but my man Pat

Starting point is 02:19:53 shouted at me. Oh, I'm like, yo. My man Pat, I used to go pick up the oatmeal raisins and trick my friends into getting high. Hey, got those shades

Starting point is 02:20:00 on the Cartier's going to spire. Some like these are a gift. You know. Spoil me. Whatever, just lifel life, these are a gift. You know. Spoil, spoil me. Whatever, just life life. Trickle on me, you heard?

Starting point is 02:20:10 Yeah, you heard. Nah, we used to go to the Heights while I was shit. She had the Lucky Charms. She had the little, like it was like marshmallows within the brownies. Yeah. Or the Rice Krispie Treat. I've since learned my tolerance. I got the number for NA for all of ypie Treat. I've since learned my tolerance

Starting point is 02:20:26 and not the fucking I got the number for NA for all of y'all. I'm sorry? For what? The NA number for all of y'all. Nah, more A's. What I need that for?

Starting point is 02:20:33 More A's. Need that shit? And no edibles. Ain't nothing wrong with an edible. I love the edibles. That's my shit. I got these little

Starting point is 02:20:41 ice was fucking face down on the cobblestone. Famously. It's a famous meme. Can face down on the cobbles. Famously. It's a famous meme. Did you not focus on edibles? I died. You talk about focus. I was dead.

Starting point is 02:20:53 Oh, yeah. I'm not trying to focus. I'm watching Animal Planet and shit. No, I died. I want to go somewhere else on some edibles. Why are you watching Animal Planet? Where you go? Somebody?

Starting point is 02:21:03 Yeah, wherever. That's what I'm trying to do. The whales? Somebody gave me some bullshit. See what the whales was doing? I ain't going to say no names. That should be peaceful, yo. Somebody gave me some bullshit.

Starting point is 02:21:11 Mushrooms, though. What? Oh, mushrooms do something to you? What does it make you feel? Them shits I had was duds or something. I don't know what you got. From somebody. I gave them to you,

Starting point is 02:21:22 but the ones we had from the same candy bar shit were funny. We had the whole party had from the same candy bar shit worked. We had the whole party spinning. Took six of them shits and was like, man, maybe my tolerance is just higher

Starting point is 02:21:31 than I thought it was. Wait, the chocolate joints? Yes. Six. No, no, no. I'm not going to hold you. Yeah, they have the chocolate. It's chocolate.

Starting point is 02:21:37 Yeah, the chocolate mushrooms. Oh, that's your problem. I mean, that is an issue because it can be inconsistent. That's your problem. It can be inconsistent. Yeah, it's inconsistent. You need a mushroom.

Starting point is 02:21:45 Oh, no. Not a chocolate inconsistent. You need a mushroom. Oh, no. Not a chocolate mushroom. You need a mushroom. Now, the chocolates, the ones I had from the same shit were great. I know, it went crazy. Somebody else told me the same thing. What do you mean crazy? Maybe the tolerance is different.

Starting point is 02:21:57 Man, take a lot of mushrooms. Hey, get a regular mushroom and grind it. Or just put it on the pizza. Put it in the grinder. I've had mushroom smoothies, chocolates. Smoke it in the grinder. I've had mushroom smoothies. Smoke it or drink it. It never does anything to me. Yeah, you could make tea out of it.

Starting point is 02:22:10 You could do a bunch of different shit. I've done a smoothie. But eat it. Yeah, you want to eat it. Eat it. That shit nasty. Grind it and eat it. I heard.

Starting point is 02:22:19 Yeah. Peanut butter sandwich. It's still nasty. Pizza. Peanut butter sandwich? Peanut butter sandwich, yeah. It covers it. Why peanut butter?

Starting point is 02:22:24 Why peanut butter? It covers it all up. Fam. Yeah, I heard it's disgusting. You can do something else to cover it. Look what they do. Avocado toast. All right, I'm totally off this. Mushroom toast.

Starting point is 02:22:36 That would actually be fly though. Yeah, you said the same name. That's cool. I know, I did. You stole my name. Yeah, what's your name? Melancholist. Malefluous.

Starting point is 02:22:44 Malefluous. Sweet sounding. Can you spell it? Malefluous. Shit, I could, but right now. Yeah what you Malancha Malifluous Malifluous Sweet sounding Can you spell it Malifluous Shit I could But right now I'm not gonna hold you Malifluous

Starting point is 02:22:52 Melly said we ain't been Asking no tough questions Nah nah I didn't say that Yes you did Nah I said ask some I don't even say I didn't say that though I said ask some lit shit

Starting point is 02:23:02 Some lit shit Yeah She trying to play us But not messy shit Like this shit Something lit Yeah Something lit I said, ask some lit shit. Some lit shit? Yeah. She trying to play us. But not messy shit, like lit shit. Not messy, something lit. Yeah, something lit. Well, you could get it inside my head. Yeah, ask away.

Starting point is 02:23:14 Fellas, y'all do it, because I will cry together on the couch if I get going. So y'all do it first before I come in and ruin the truth of truth. I'm never playing that shit. Ish, anything? Yeah, you the conversationalist, man. Damn, so I'm not interesting enough?

Starting point is 02:23:35 You don't have nothing to say? Wow. Wow. Wow, Ish. Come on. Come on, bridge the gap. Bridge the gap right now. It's four co-hosts right now.

Starting point is 02:23:45 And you're the most sober one? Wow. Wow. No, dead ass. Wow. Look at that. Damn. I'm good.

Starting point is 02:23:54 I want to know if there's any symbolism to this Playboy bunny. Come on, come on, come on, come on. That's an interesting question. No, that's what I want to know. Yes, there is. I meant to ask Akon the same thing with that Wakanda thing. With that Wakanda piece. It was a nice piece and I decided to keep it.

Starting point is 02:24:13 Keep it. Oh, it's a gift. Yeah, it was a gift. You are slow. You really are slow. I am so... Oh! It's so annoying.

Starting point is 02:24:31 That was so organic. Here. You still want to dance in this equation? Holy shit. She's a big fan of Hugh Hefner. That nigga is tricking. That nigga is a trick trick. God damn.

Starting point is 02:24:55 I ain't never did that. I ain't never did that. What chain would you give? What chain would you give? Be a Newport. I'm still struggling with trying to figure out. Get your shit on.

Starting point is 02:25:08 My bad, though. No, no, get your shit on. No, please, go ahead. No, no, you good. I'm still struggling with trying to figure out how to buy her a car. Says you got to tell her what car you want. So time out. Oh, no, it ain't about that.

Starting point is 02:25:20 No, no, no. So time out, y'all. Let me ask you. The chain is one, is two tricks. What do you mean tricks? He said trick, trick. That's what he said. No, this you. The chain is one, is two tricks. What do you mean tricks? He said trick, trick. That's what he said. No, this is big tricking.

Starting point is 02:25:28 That's not tricking. What's the car? She can't drive the chain. Stop it, yo. What's the car? Stop it, yo. Uh-oh. Yo, stop it, yo.

Starting point is 02:25:34 I'm asking what a car is. You want me to be for real here? Yeah. A car is just one trick. Are y'all pardon? Are y'all pardon or you want me to be for real here? Both. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 02:25:45 Y'all sure? Y'all potting or you want me to be for real here? Both. Oh, okay. Y'all sure? Y'all sure? For real? I'm serious. I'm serious. Why you only asking them? You gotta ask me. No, because they want to play around.

Starting point is 02:25:57 Okay. This is my girl. It's not tricking when it's your girl. That's true. And I mean, it could be tricking, but that's your girl. No, it's not tricking. It's not tricking. That's my girl. Don't matter. It's not tricking. That's not tricking. it's your girl That's true And I mean it could be tricking But that's your girl No it's not tricking It's not tricking That's my girl Don't matter it's not tricking

Starting point is 02:26:08 That's not tricking That's what I'm saying That's another thing with narcissists Men Uh oh Teach Tell them Go ahead

Starting point is 02:26:15 Go ahead girl Go ahead girl Hey Lou I'm about to text you nigga You know cause we not We not gonna do that Give it to me Give it to me Because

Starting point is 02:26:22 Because I'm your girl And then I'm on top of that. I'm your girl, and I'm doing my own thing. So it's like now when I'm not, I'm not. Because at the end of the day, Melly's going to do Melly. That's one thing people are going to realize. Melly's going to do Melly.

Starting point is 02:26:37 And Melly is always going to be, you know, she's going to be a civilian. You know, she's going to be. is going to be you know she's going to be a civilian you know she's going to be

Starting point is 02:26:44 nyang nyang nyang but like you can play how much you want to play because you got you can portray whatever you want to you know

Starting point is 02:26:54 portray but you know what's up you know what I'm saying so when you not seeing Melly right

Starting point is 02:27:03 Melly busy Melly busy Melly busy Right So now you wanna You always go to the guests With what What you What I came here with

Starting point is 02:27:15 Gifts You know what I'm saying So Melly It's not no tricking shit It's not Cause if I was If I was on some hoe shit That that's different if you're tricking.

Starting point is 02:27:27 But if you're on some, which is not what y'all think or whatever, but like really consistent on shit, it's not considered tricking. Unless you consider it, then we'll agree to disagree. No. I think I understand what you just said. You can't Washington Heights me out of this one. I think. I think.

Starting point is 02:27:48 Speak fluent Washington Heights. Man. Man. I'm fluent. Good at the Washington. I think I know what you just said. I think it's a shot o'clock moment. Shot o'clock.

Starting point is 02:28:00 Yeah. She better than me. No. This nigga is fluent. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Lou. Somebody. Go get it. Go get it. Come on. Because I'm about to tell them what you nigga is fluent Go ahead Go ahead Lou Somebody

Starting point is 02:28:07 Go get it Come on Cause I'm about to tell him What you just said Go ahead I'm a translator What does yeah yeah yeah mean Yeah yeah yeah

Starting point is 02:28:14 I was his girl Ain't that what you just said And he was starting to the world Yeah Yeah And you can do that But you know what it is Yeah but I'm Wait but I'm still me So I was Ah ah ah Exactly And as a result And I was stunting to the world. Yeah, yeah. And you can do that, but you know what it is. Yeah, but I'm, wait, but I'm still me.

Starting point is 02:28:26 So I was ah, ah, ah. Exactly. And as a result. And I was allowing him to ah, ah, ah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We met up. We met up. You confront for the world.

Starting point is 02:28:34 But because I'm me, niggas popped up with them gifts because you know how I get down. But I'ma still do me. Because it's not stopping me from nothing. We just got to be cool at the moment. Hmm. And as long as you know that and you're okay with that, it's never going to hurt your ego

Starting point is 02:28:48 because you're going to do you, I'm going to do me. Melly, I'm not going to lie to you. Listening to you is hurting my ego. You are hurting my ego. But you listen to my music, though. No, no, I'm talking about if, no, no,

Starting point is 02:28:58 not as a fan of you. I'm talking about if I'm a guy in this situation, there ain't no new artist popping this type of shit to me. I ain't going to hold you. New artists. Yes.

Starting point is 02:29:08 But then again, when you on another level, you're not looking at each other as artists. And that's the thing. I'm not looking at you as an artist. I'm not looking at none of y'all. I fuck with y'all. I'm here. I'm more open with y'all.

Starting point is 02:29:17 And that's what it is. I don't look at nobody on some. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. Wouldn't look at nobody. You know what I'm saying? I look at everybody on that type of time. And that was the thing. I'm not here to like that. I'm not looking at you like you're entertaining us. I look at everybody on that type of time,

Starting point is 02:29:27 and that was the thing. I'm not here to bash nobody. I'm not here to look better, da-da-da, whatever the case may be, but it's more so when you know me, you know that's why my biggest downfall on being an artist is what it is, because if I fuck with you as a person, then you could talk to me,

Starting point is 02:29:41 you could rock with me, we could understand each other, maybe we could dig deep in. But if I don't fuck with you as a person, then you could talk to me, you could rock with me, we could understand each other, maybe we could dig deep in. But if I don't fuck with you as a person, there's no getting across to a whole nother level with me, which at the end of the day, yeah, we could come across as artists, but we're still people, and that's what people don't understand. If you're going to sit there and change who you are because of an image that you have, then you're not real to yourself, and you're not going to call in the right crowd like

Starting point is 02:30:04 you said to me out there, right? So if I'm sticking on that, then I don't really care about a lot of things. Yo, I dropped out of high school. That's already in like Spanish world, whatever. That's like, hey, look at your daughter. Look what this one is doing. And look at you. But at the end of the day, it's like I had that back to back in my home.

Starting point is 02:30:25 I don't care. If I fuck with you, I fuck with you. Because at the end of the day, I'm going home to something. So if I'm ever involved with me and you or whatever the case may be in my life, it's because I'm okay with whatever goes on. Because like I said, I'm an open book. So if you're going to get to know me, you're going to get to know me every day. It's the same person probably changing for the better.

Starting point is 02:30:44 Because I'm always striving for the best. You know what I'm saying? I'm not talking out of my eyes, but it does something in me to wake up and not be like, yo, how could you make something about yourself better? You know what I'm saying? And that's just how I am every day.

Starting point is 02:30:57 You know? And y'all like... No, no, no. No, no, no. He said that's what he he be saying all the time. He says every day you should be trying to improve yourself at some point, some aspect of your life. Because even then, improving yourself, sorry,

Starting point is 02:31:12 heals the person that you was before in a way. And it make them niggas sick when you start healing yourself. Exactly. You don't get bothered by the same things. You might be looking at me bashing you. I'm just reflecting. You know what I'm saying? Like when you wake up every day and you're like, yo, you look in the mirror.

Starting point is 02:31:31 I'm all for you. Shit go different. The energy around you start changing. The people that don't need to be around you start going. Because at the end of the day, like I said, I'll be looking at them TED Talk. Them people don't benefit off of you anymore. Why? Because you're not catering to them.

Starting point is 02:31:48 You're catering to yourself. You know what I'm saying? A lot of times people look at people like, oh, woke. There's people that act like they woke. There's people that use that word woke. But at the end of the day, it's like, what are you doing in this life? What can improve you? Fuck whatever you want to do Cause everybody has different

Starting point is 02:32:05 Like goals in life But it's like The person that When you stepping into a building You stepping as yourself You representing yourself Fuck Fuck who in front of you

Starting point is 02:32:14 Around you You representing yourself You know what I'm saying So everyday I'm gonna work on self So when self goes in anywhere Self is the same person And a better person everyday

Starting point is 02:32:23 You know I could be proud of self. Shot a cop? It hurt. It hurt when you lose your girl that was on it like this. That hurt a little bit. Like your girl that believed in herself, like was encouraging you and shit. And believed in you too.

Starting point is 02:32:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That hurts. That hurts. I'm getting a clear understanding, man. I'm getting a clear understanding. No. I'm getting a clear understanding. No, you made me sad now. You didn't want to cross all that. Huh?

Starting point is 02:32:50 Why make you sad? Just the communication gap between men and women, I guess. Yeah. What I will say, this is what I meant to say to you, because we was talking outside, right? What I will say, this is what I meant to say to you, because we were talking outside, right? Sometimes, and I'm saying this as a man that has attempted to work with women, sometimes it's really just tough for men to understand how women see things. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 02:33:22 And how women view and feel about certain things. It's not that... It's not even men. I'm sorry to cut you off. Go ahead, please. It's men that have money and attention and never had it before. That's really what it is.

Starting point is 02:33:39 Sometimes when you're getting something that you're not used to, you automatically forget the fact that you still have to balance yourself out on what's fair you know because it's the I'm not saying you have to always be fair because sometimes you're gonna have to be unfair but more so human like just decency of like just being a human and understanding like I always put myself in another person's position whether I'm about to do something or not and I know it's gonna hurt you I understand maybe in the long run it's gonna hurt not and I know it's going to hurt you,

Starting point is 02:34:05 I understand. Maybe in the long run it's going to hurt you. I mean, it's going to hurt you, but in the long run you'll understand. But I always put myself in a situation to understand the other person on how they might dictate my decision because you're not here to understand me 100%. But when I make a decision,

Starting point is 02:34:20 I'm going to make sure that I'm standing on it and shit and I'm okay with the reaction that you're about to give me, because it's not to benefit you, it's to benefit me in the long run. That was powerful. She smoked that. Yeah, no, she did. That's a TED Talk. Not yet.

Starting point is 02:34:37 I just had to look at that one TED Talk, which was the selfish one. And when you understand, like, people's going to call you a certain thing. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, you too cocky. Bitch, I just love myself. Maybe it's coming to you like that

Starting point is 02:34:52 because you don't believe in yourself the same way, you know? People throw that selfish word out there when they can't control you and you're just not doing what they want you to do.

Starting point is 02:35:00 That's a fact. You know, it don't even necessarily be selfish. It's just, you're not doing what I want. It's almost like reverse selfishness. Yeah, it is. Like, you're not doing what I want you to do. That's a fact. You know, it don't even necessarily be selfish. It's just, you're not doing what I want. It's almost like reverse selfishness. Yeah, it is.

Starting point is 02:35:07 Like, you're not doing what I want you to do so you're being selfish. Right. A disadvantage to what you want and not what I want, you know? Yeah. Uh-uh.

Starting point is 02:35:16 Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Let me turn this on. Oops. So the next five years, what do you see, Melly, both business-wise and personally? Business-wise?

Starting point is 02:35:28 And personally? Well, oh, personal. Both of those? Personal, I feel like, like I said, I've become very strong within how I think. And also with how I feel when I lose people or whatever or not have the same people around me. So I feel like that's what I had to get used to because when you get used to not, like, moving forward because you want to sit everybody at the table,

Starting point is 02:35:52 you got to learn that you got to sit alone sometimes. And sometimes that table means that you're going to have to cook the food that's not already made for you. You know what I'm saying? Can you cook? Yes. Your favorite dish to make for a guy? My favorite dish?

Starting point is 02:36:07 Rasta pasta? I love rasta pasta, but I am not going to hold you. I love corn and rice with chicken. Oh, you're Dominican, Dominican? Yeah. Corn, rice, and chicken, right? Oh, and shrimp, yeah, but I can't eat shrimp It's bad for my health

Starting point is 02:36:27 Why? That's too much sodium Tell him Here you go Tell him Shut the fuck up Shut the fuck up You see yourself having some little

Starting point is 02:36:41 Bunnies running around What running around? Yeah the bunny rabbits little bunnies running around? What? Running around? Yeah, the bunny rabbits. Little bunny rabbits running around. What do you mean by running around? I think he means kids. Kids.

Starting point is 02:36:52 You got the playboy bunny ones. Yeah, you gotcha. You know what I mean? I'm 24. Five years. I hope to five years. I don't know. I feel like a lot of like, I have to keep dating myself right now.

Starting point is 02:37:09 And just, if you want to take me, you know. But look, I'm this type of girl. I might entertain a conversation with you. I might, you know, whatever. You want to take me out to eat? Bad, we lit. But the next day, I might not talk to you again. So it's whatever.

Starting point is 02:37:24 Wait, Mel. Wait. Hey hey hold up I don't feel like you should be able to just say that so casually am I lying though I don't know is that the truth is that what you're doing to men out there no no no I feel like the way I'm at right now is like I'm on some dating myself yeah I'm dating myself

Starting point is 02:37:42 like I'm learning what I like are you treating you well hell yeah I'm treating myself. Yeah, I'm dating myself. Like, I'm learning what I like. Are you treating you well? Hell yeah. Okay. I'm treating myself very good. Like, I'm such a good just, like, headspace that I'm not willing to, like, just gamble that away. Yo, people say that when their roster is lit. They start talking all this shit.

Starting point is 02:38:01 Yo, where I'm at right now, just do it. Me, focus on me. What'd you say? What'd you say? They start talking all this video. Where I'm at right now, just do it. Me, focus on me. Yep. All right. What'd you say? What'd you say? No, no. We know.

Starting point is 02:38:10 We can tell. Listen, listen. We can tell. Hold up. It's really though. It's really. I just had a little, you know, hmm. But then I'm like, hmm.

Starting point is 02:38:21 Yeah, all right. Ah! Y'all all right. Y'all thought I was feeling you? What the fuck is you niggas talking about? Nah, that's me legends, but it's been crazy. Yeah. Is that what you do most of your mid-range shooting? Is it the DMs?

Starting point is 02:38:48 Or is it in person? No. Is it? I'm not going to know if it's different. Like, you got Instagram. You got Instagram and shit. Snapchat, DMs, DMs everywhere. I learned that Snapchat is still alive.

Starting point is 02:39:00 I didn't even know people were still using Snapchat. Me neither. People that cheat use Snapchat. That's what I heard. Me neither. People that cheat use Snapchat. That's what I heard. Lit people that cheat use Snapchat. I didn't know that was still alive. I didn't know that at all. People are still on Snapchat?

Starting point is 02:39:16 Wow. Wow. You know Ice? Yeah, I love Ice. She was like, oh, she fucked with me. No, no, no, that's Ice Spice. Oh, Ice Spice. I thought you were talking about Ice. Yeah, Ice Spice. Because he was like, oh, she fucked with me. No, no, no, this is ice. Oh, ice spice. I thought you were talking about ice. No.

Starting point is 02:39:27 Because he was like, you thought you was smelling me? That's my shit. That's my shit. I love her, though. She's a Capricorn just like me. Cap gang. You're a Capricorn? Cap gang.

Starting point is 02:39:35 I never even heard of that. All right. Cap gang. Oh, God. Yeah, yeah. When your birthday? I'm December 31st. Oh, shit.

Starting point is 02:39:44 On New Year's Eve. Oh, you extra lit. Yeah, it's late, late. When your birthday? I'm December 31st. Oh, shit. On New Year's. Yeah. Oh, you extra lit. What? It's late, late. Yeah. I mean, not all the time.

Starting point is 02:39:51 I used to hate my birthday. But now that I got older. Why? What you mean why? When you were young, nobody worried about you. Your mom like, eat some grapes. Well, my mom was like, shut up. Eat some grapes.

Starting point is 02:40:00 You know? This is like torture. And now, I know it turns 12, and your birthday's gone, and the whole day day People cooking all day Like fuck is wrong with you I didn't get shit close to Christmas You get a little robbed No

Starting point is 02:40:09 Niggas was not having Christmas Like we was not having We had the tree But my mom was like Every day is Christmas We'd be like yeah But that built character Nah that wasn't a flu

Starting point is 02:40:23 Every day is Christmas Nah yeah That shit wasn't flying flu. Every day is Christmas. Nah, yeah. That shit wasn't flying. We didn't have it like that. You ain't got it. It was definitely flying when you see your mom working three jobs, taking shit, different things.

Starting point is 02:40:33 It was like, she the oldest, too. So my mom was really out here, like, on some shit. But that's why I don't, even when niggas give me shit, I be like, oh. And they think that I'm being, like, ungrateful shit But it's like Oh like You're not used to it Yeah I'm not used to it Cause it's like

Starting point is 02:40:47 And that don't move on them Exactly And you mean niggas like plural What do you mean Yeah that's the thing That's why niggas think that I'm like downplaying them But it's like

Starting point is 02:40:55 I'm not downplaying you I'm learning to know How to cater you It's just mad niggas Give me gifts yo To what you like me to act like Cause you know what it is Girls that never like

Starting point is 02:41:03 I never had it right So when I had it I gave it to myself On top of that right and then on top of that my mom never my mom would be like never idolize anybody that's not God right so I just very Catholic household you grow up very like Catholic Christian it was always in between because my family like everybody's different and stuff there was definitely dominant Christianity And Catholic But I just have My own relationship with God No doubt So I be like

Starting point is 02:41:27 Spiritual But other than Other than that Like my mom made me Yo She did this to God Now God is really my

Starting point is 02:41:36 My God Like he's my God He's my God He was spinning the block for me I be like I know you did that But like I really beat on something like, yo, like

Starting point is 02:41:45 I don't, I don't overdo stuff. I don't over analyze stuff. Like, it's more so like even with a guy, right? There was this one time I had ice cream and I felt like I was on top of the world. But I done got chains and everything and it's just like mm. But the ice cream

Starting point is 02:42:02 part where we just like, yo, you like this one? That was more to me You like that right Yeah you know what I'm saying Ice cream day Told you Pizza day Walking the park

Starting point is 02:42:11 Cause it seems It's something that you Could just grab and give to me Bet I'm wearing it But it's those Ice cream moments That like you really Went out of your day

Starting point is 02:42:19 Out of a busy day To be like yo We getting ice cream Have a nigga scoop Which one you want Bow You wanna Bow You know what I'm saying So it's like yo Like those intimate moments busy day to be like, yo, we getting ice cream. Have a nigga scoop. Which one you want? Bow. You want a, mm?

Starting point is 02:42:26 Bow. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, yo, like, those intimate moments is what means the most. I told y'all niggas I'm ice cream and pizza dates. Listen, when you die, right, God forbid, whatever, everybody, God bless y'all. When you in that coffin, nobody, nobody's going to be like, yo, yo, yo, yeah. I remember when I gave her this chain and she was like, ah. Nah, niggas is going to remember the day you went to the ice cream shop on a regular day. And we was walking on the boulevard looking at the water.

Starting point is 02:42:51 Like, I really embraced those moments, you know? Told you, niggas. Tricking ass niggas. I think the roster is you acting out. What do you mean? I'm acting out. What do you mean? I think that's what the roster is you acting out. What do you mean? I'm acting out. What do you mean? I think that's what the roster.

Starting point is 02:43:07 Is about? Yeah, because in listening to her, yo. What do you mean acting out? I understand. You want. Give some examples. So the roster is you just. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:43:20 I, I, I. Yeah, these niggas have played too much. But the real nigga would be like the nigga that you went ice cream But what do you mean by acting? Cuz that's what you love Simplicity is from that you would gravitate to simplicity a man is into you like the true life organic version of Love you seem like that type of a softy like yeah, I'm a real softy But people think they gotta to approach me with,

Starting point is 02:43:46 here's gifts. And it's like, I don't appreciate that because any nigga's going to give me that or I could give it to myself. I want to make memories with you. I want you to dig deep, understand me. I want to grow with you. I want to know that when I'm on some hard shit,

Starting point is 02:43:59 like, you're going to have my back. Fuck what everybody think because that's what I said, like, the whole artist shit. We literally born naked into this world out of our mom's coochie. Like, ah, you out here, out here. You feel me, niggas? It's shaking you up. You know what I'm saying? It's like, yo, fuck that. When it's time to be a real person, I would expect you, yeah, put on your image and shit, but at the same time, I want to always know, nah, that's a real nigga.

Starting point is 02:44:25 You feel me? That's my friend, that's my brother, that's my family. Yeah, it's too much substance for the fun roster. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, that's what I'm saying. And that 24. Yeah, and maybe it means absolutely nothing, but that just so happened to happen with the arms down.

Starting point is 02:44:48 What do you mean arms down? Body language. Body language has changed. Now you've realized now, because that's a genuine joke. Oh, no, no, no. But what y'all don't know. I don't think that comes out like this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Starting point is 02:44:58 To be completely honest, I was excited to be here. Like, I was excited to be here. For real? We're excited to have you here. My best friend is there. I was excited to be here. Like, I was excited to be here. For real? We're excited to have you here. My best friend is there. I was in the car like. I was. You know?

Starting point is 02:45:10 So this is me holding back, like, my excitement, but at the same time, like, being comfortable. This is me on something like, I'm extremely comfortable. Well, that's what we want. We want you to come. So I'm chilling. You got comfy? Chillin'. Yo.

Starting point is 02:45:24 Oh, God. Gentlemen, do you guys have anything else for Melly? I hope that we hope that you come back here. Yes. You want me back, you got to tell me. Yeah, I got to tell me, like, pull up. Well, we only said it for a year and change before we actually got you here. Nah, you right, you right, you right.

Starting point is 02:45:43 But we understand. We understand schedules can get hectic as an artist. Honestly, I was going to move to Miami, but I think I'm back in the city. For us. I'm back in the city. No more Miami. You're annoying.

Starting point is 02:46:03 I'm back in the city. I love when that part Comes after a strong I'm a woman rant Yeah I'm back in the city I'm definitely back in the city I had to be back in the city Top of the bunny rabbits down there Too much going on

Starting point is 02:46:19 A lot of rabbits A lot of rabbits Been there done that Been there done that Y'all still in Miami? Nah I had the best Like I have the best studio to go to out there. So that's what it is. Shout out to Lo.

Starting point is 02:46:31 Shout out to Lo, Johan. Shout out to y'all. Get the shit off. Yeah. Shout out to you, niggas. When your mom ran the house. Yo, Melly's sound effects are the greatest, man. Yo, yo.

Starting point is 02:46:42 Yeah, Melly's sound effects going to greatest, man. Yeah, Melly's sound effects going to JVP Hall. This was awesome. You have an open door invite whenever you feel like it. Don't say that, because if I'm standing in the corner, you're like, why this bitch back here? No, we won't. Time to clock. Time to clock.

Starting point is 02:46:58 Hey! No, we won't. Yeah, no, or whenever you just need some niggas to just listen to the bullshit that's going on out here. Feel free. Feel free. When can fans like me get more music, even though you just put out music? I'm actually about to go to the studio right now.

Starting point is 02:47:17 And I'm going to just release that shit like nothing. Do it. But I'm going to do like a little freestyle to the Groverilla Tomorrow joint. Because I got very like, hey, like Groverilla is fire. I think so too. She's so fire. You got 99 problems, but the biggest one is me. You got all the little bitches, but the biggest one is me.

Starting point is 02:47:38 Yeah, nah. That shit hard though. I ain't going to hold you. That shit hard. Nah, she's fire. Y'all both pussy. I think both of y'all should sit up. That was Cardi. That was Cardi.

Starting point is 02:47:46 That was Cardi. I know. Yo, I think the girls, they kicking ass, yo. They kicking our ass. They putting it in niggas' ass. Yeah, they do. Because niggas is tricking. Niggas is trash.

Starting point is 02:47:57 That's why. There's a lot of that, too. Niggas is fucking niggas, yo. Y'all niggas, yo. We got to have a man meeting soon. Yo, I ain't going to hold you. Listening to Melly, a few of y'all out there, I'm calling for a man meeting soon.

Starting point is 02:48:11 A meeting of the minds. Because some of this shit has got to stop, yo. You know what it is? Enough is enough. Women are tired. Oh, wow. That's her love. Look, look, look, look.

Starting point is 02:48:21 Women are tired. All right, you know what? Melly's been great, yo. Yo, it's been great Yo She's out Yo It's been a blast Hey You go do that shit On Michelle Obama's podcast

Starting point is 02:48:31 Alright Nah yo Yo We love you It's been great You have been awesome Thank you Have fun in the studio

Starting point is 02:48:43 We can't wait to hear it. Thank you. Have fun going loud this weekend. Yes. Congratulations. Yes, have a blast out there. Turn up. And shout out.

Starting point is 02:48:53 And let's end it. Yeah, we all played the podcast first. And happy you're back in New York. Yeah, we're happy to have you back. All right. Y'all know what time it is with me. Brand new, sir. Let's go, sir.

Starting point is 02:49:12 Nothing even matters. In front of the show. TDE with a, oh, my God. Oh, my Lord. Hello. I don't know where to start, maybe a heart I can feel it beating, hoping to be the rhyme or reason You make me wanna be a better man I'm getting stronger every day

Starting point is 02:49:37 We wanna thank Melly for stopping by, we appreciate you Making a connection with your perfect imperfections Break it down at your discretion discretion if it's under my protection Your ebony complexion, I would die for your affection You keep giving me direction, baby, this is my confession I can't get enough, hard to believe I even found your love Diamond in the rough, light up the dark like the fire on sparking fire Baby, when we touch, I can't get enough, can't even picture my life without my girl Diamond in the rough, shine any brighter and you might see the world

Starting point is 02:50:22 Baby, when we every time nothing even matters No one loves me better I want this forever, ever Since I can remember I've been rolling with stones Didn't really think I'd ever find the place I belong But since you came in the picture I made a vow to behave Didn't want you dealing with someone Who was just drowning your way Never thought it would be easy

Starting point is 02:50:48 But I'm changing my ways On the brink of breaking Even with your love here to stay Oh, I'll never try No, I won't deny Your love can't be replaced I'll keep catering to your will If only to bathe in your grace

Starting point is 02:51:02 Oh, I can't get enough Hard to believe I even found some love Diamond in the rough Light up the dark like the fire I'm sparking up Baby, every time Nothing even matters No one loves me better I want this forever

Starting point is 02:51:19 Oh, I can't get enough Can't even picture my life without my girl Diamond in the rough Shining and grinding and you might see the world Maybe when we turn Nothing even matters No one loves me better I want this forever, ever

Starting point is 02:51:36 I want this forever, ever I want this forever, ever I want this forever, ever I want this forever, ever Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I'm fucking up Baby, we be tough, nothing even matters No one loves me better, I want this forever I can't get enough, can't even picture my life without my girl Got it in the road, shine anybody and you might see the world Baby, we be tough, nothing even matters No one loves me you better I want this forever, ever Can I wait to hear more? Can I wait to hear more? Sir is that dude. He definitely is, man. And shout out to D Smoke, too.

Starting point is 02:52:48 I don't put enough. Yeah, shout out to D Smoke. The whole family. Yeah, tell it to the ass family. There's another one. Yeah, there's another one, too. Yeah. Tell it to the ass family.

Starting point is 02:52:55 Sir name. I don't put enough respect on Sir name in these male R&B conversations. He ain't missed yet with back-to-back projects. At all. So, shout out to Sir, man. We love you. That was my sleeper. It's cool, though.

Starting point is 02:53:09 I ain't going to hold you. That was on my list. I'm not even an R&B dude, but I said, oh, new Sir? OK, cool. I'm going to go there. I mean, I'm me, though. So I mean, when I go first, I mean, it's fine. You said it's my shit?

Starting point is 02:53:19 Yeah, I mean, so. So you dead on your little sleeper? Now you got to find the new girl with three listens, Satasha Mctavian. Somehow fired his hell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beautiful, beautiful young girl out of Scotland. Find a little Akon artist.

Starting point is 02:53:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get your shit up. He smoked that record, though. No. You got your old Oscars now. Yeah, so you can just press play. Yo, I don't got Apple Music and all that. though. No. You got your old Oscar now. Yeah. So you can just press play. Yo, I don't got Apple Music and all that. No need to.

Starting point is 02:53:48 And Rob ain't here to give you a sleeper. I'll just get ready to say that's what it is. Rob ain't here to give you a sleeper. Hey, Alex, you want to come plug your phone up to this one? Hey, Alex. Hey, Alex. When the last time you gave me a song? Yo, dog, just play a song.

Starting point is 02:53:59 It's on me. It's on me anyway. Anybody. All right. Please. What Dirk did. Nah, nah, nah. No, you can't listen to Dirk no more. Nah, nah, nah. No, you can't listen

Starting point is 02:54:05 to Dirk no more. That way he would be contributing to the disease that is the murder. That is plaguing the innocent. That is the murder that is plaguing.

Starting point is 02:54:11 Definitely not. Oh, yeah. The fuck out of here. Now, my favorite rapper is back with another feature where he doing, yo, I'm liking it. This is Baby Money's new project.

Starting point is 02:54:26 Jeezy does more shit? Yeah. What he do? It's hard again? Yes. This one's called All Hustle and it features Jeezy. That last shit was dope. Yo, fuck you.

Starting point is 02:54:38 Yeah, marriage making Jeezy want to get back in the studio, huh? Anytime Brady get back on the field. I'm telling you, man. Marriage marriage to do it won't it? Beat is on this shit all off the hustling and cuffing no music type of shit to make you grind wanna move some balls to It beans in the truck tell them boys is real music dirty money in the shower You can move low to it shit all off the hustling and come from no music type of shit that make you grind wanna move some bowls to it beans in the trunk tell them boys it's road music dirty money in the shower you can move the load to it

Starting point is 02:55:12 this a Cartier Skelly we ain't rockin' no music had a phone around his neck now he rockin' 4 cubes every run I get I knock that bitch out like Joe Louis all them niggas used to hoop but they still became shooters I used to help niggas move, now I help niggas move it Prosecutor tryna fry me, hope he know my lawyer's Jewish We talk about throwin' bows every day, I was lootin' Chris Stile on the boat every day, it's a movie

Starting point is 02:55:33 Pit stop on the boat, nigga come and cop a cutie Zip locks in my coats, I be trappin', rockin' Louis You ain't never touch the road, you be actin' like you do it You ain't never copped a load, how you never bump into me? This shit all off of hustlin', ain't come from no music Type of shit that make you grind, wanna move some bowls to it Beans in the trunk, tell them boys it's road music Dirty money in the shower, you can move the load to it

Starting point is 02:55:53 This shit all off of hustlin', ain't come from no music Type of shit that make you grind, wanna move some bowls to it Beans in the trunk, tell them boys it's road music Dirty money in the shower, you can move the load to it This shit all off of hustle, he ain't come from no label Half a million in the duffel, fill up the whole table The army hammered on, Mr. Used the whole kitchen Like a box of Cheerios, nigga, ain't no hoes missing

Starting point is 02:56:14 Up early in the morning, cooking four ways for breakfast Them Pops came from Target, but them Bricks came from Texas Dope boy magic, Mr. Abracadabra This my biggest trick, turn my hood to the last Got a black belt, I'm whippin', yeah, they call me the master I get study in the D and 45 in Nebraska This shit, I say religion, boy, I should've been a pastor A motherfuckin' character, you should've been an actor

Starting point is 02:56:35 World Kimo Sabe wearin' bricks, this my hobby It's my prerogative, just like my nigga Bobby And I ain't talkin' on them phones, cause this shit can get tricky They play these lyrics in the court room, this shit can get sticky This shit all off of hustlin', ain't talking on them phone, cause this shit can get tricky They play these lyrics in the court when this shit can get sticky This shit all off of hustlin', ain't come from no music Type of shit that make you grind, wanna move some bows to it Beans in the trunk, tell them boys it's road music Dirty money in the shower, you can move the load to it

Starting point is 02:56:55 This shit all off of hustlin', ain't come from no music Type of shit that make you grind, wanna move some bows to it Beans in the trunk, tell them boys it's road music Dirty money in the shower, you can move the load to it No dirty money in the dryer, when you watch it, blow through it Commerce all around the crib, we ain't watching no movies Try to ride cause you broke and got popped with your tool Now your man's in the dirt for your mistake, you so stupid

Starting point is 02:57:16 It's okay to work overly, I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be Even on a fast break, I still go for three I know my family want the most of me The same for them, I just hope they see A big world, how they notice me With six girls, oh, it's open season They say love's the reason I'm an angel, but I'm in the den This shit all off of hustlin', ain't come from no music

Starting point is 02:57:39 Type of shit that make you grind, wanna move some bowls to it Beans in the trunk, tell them boys it's road music Dirty money in the shower, you can move some bowls to it beans in the trunk tell them boys this road music dirty money in the shower you can move the load to it this all off of hustling ain't come from no music type of to make you grind wanna move some bowls to it beans in the trunk tell them boys this road music dirty money in the shower you can move the load to it that's all hustle baby money featuring gz off of his new project, New Money. Actually just dropped yesterday. That was tough.

Starting point is 02:58:10 Yeah. It sounds like vintage Jeezy to me. I don't know what got into him, Pauls, but he's been back on his shit. He's been in that bag. And I love that Detroit rap shit, so this is just right up my alley. You know where the fuck I'm going. This is Ransom. Oh, yeah. Let's where the fuck I'm going. This is Ransom. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 02:58:25 Let's get it. Amen. Let's go, Ray. Hey, yo, Jams, I see you behind the boards, boy. This sound a real musical. Real beautiful. Sort of like the modern day Mozart or some shit. Of course, I'm like the modern day Michelangelo the way I paint these pictures.

Starting point is 02:58:48 They ain't going to quite understand it yet Let me paint, though The voice of the people that many try to silence Besides the violence, they're truly fearful of my defiance Their first reaction when they was thinking that I'm compliant You should try the science, politicking with some giants And try to make an alliance They underestimated the fearless heart of a lion That's here to sharpen the iron, the clearest stars in Orion

Starting point is 02:59:09 That wears the scars of a Mayan There's pain in them clear visions Doubted every step in this journey but still appeared driven Telling me to take care, but never was no cares given Crying on them prison tears, tatted up the tears dripping Dirty ass apartments starving, empty the fridge a day Like mama why we living here Baby, at least we here livin' I'm everything that my peers isn't The realest thing that you hear spittin'

Starting point is 02:59:33 So never could I pretend Hater was just sellin' yay and had fiends lyin' up stems Player, born was a terror, was robbin' all of my friends' neighbors Put locks on the jewels, but thanks for givin' us gems, Jada My first rap check, like mama, look what my pen made us Me and my brother locked up now, look what the pen made us Damn, look at what all these men gave up Stare them in the eyes and feel all the time that they spent caged up You old dog, you get Lorenz taped up

Starting point is 03:00:00 You so soft, you low-carb niggas that never cake up We predators that take pride huntin' All of us despise frontin' Look em' in they eyes full of vibe That's when them lies comin' If you got somethin' to hide That's when you hide somethin' But when you ain't got nothin' to hide

Starting point is 03:00:14 That's when you hide nothin' When you ain't got nothin' to hide That's when you hide nothin' Yeah And a lot of y'all got a lot to hide not me though y'all can have it all that's the best rapper rapping currently to me ransom pain and glory mayor did the beat shots mayor mayor oh my god that's all the whole project was with Mayor. Oh my goodness. Not the whole project was Mayor, huh?

Starting point is 03:00:47 Yeah. Got classics with Mayor, huh? Yeah, man. Jersey shit. Shout out to the guys, man. Let me see here. Yeah, well, no. Ash's got to play

Starting point is 03:00:57 his sleeper still. Go ahead, get your shit off. Yes, guys. Ash, what you got for us, man? You got a sleeper even though I played your shit? He stole your shit. He got another one in the seven. I played your shit already. Yo, um Savannah Ray That's my girl band. You stay in my bag. Can you get out my bag? I need you to find your own bag

Starting point is 03:01:17 You know, this is good Savannah Ray Put you on to that Savannah Rae Joe did They jumpin' off the ceiling It's a feeling Fuck around and turn up missing, yeah Niggas sick to beat me, need some Robitussin' Skip into the money like we double dutchin' Way Vs. Stone, leave me alone on that grown woman time Racing past my opps, I know they praying for an off day

Starting point is 03:02:08 Gotta watch what y'all say, niggas get it broad day Will you talk about me? Better dot your T's Put some water on me, bet that shit'll freeze I know these bands won't come out of shape I got these hoes, but still out of shape I got these hoes,, I'm out of shape, I got these hoes, but still out of shape I know these hoes, man, I'm out of shape I see a vision burning, they jumping off the ceiling It's a feeling, if I could really turn a man's head, yeah

Starting point is 03:02:42 Same way niggas call a Range Rover for the road Niggas calling me for visuals or for the flows They don't like how I'm so talented and shit it shows and even when they try to hide it it still get exposed Now I'm on my property yeah, you supposed to be proud of me yeah You supposed to protect me from them you the one took a shot at me yeah For the niggas who bent out of shape my nigga got a stick through the bottom of his yeah And I'm not glorifying it, yeah And baby, don't lie to me

Starting point is 03:03:07 You know that I done made the pussy wet again I done got up out of debt again My dog got locked up in the fed again Another one got shot and blacked and bled again On the sharpest tulip in the shed again Holy stinky boba fed again White person in the elevator Saw my braids and said, I like your dress again

Starting point is 03:03:20 This feel like Southside summer And the year was 05 You go outside, your mama look at you like, don't die Rally cold, niggas hate you, they gon' put you on ice Text your Nokia, are you comin' outside? I let these hoes talk, they love to cake I let these bands walk, I'm out of shape I let these hoes talk, they love to shake I got these hoes, man, I'm bout to shake To see a bitch winning They jumping off the ceiling

Starting point is 03:03:50 It's a feeling Fuck around and turn up dancing Yeah All right, Ish, way to come back. Way to come back, Savannah Ray. Bop, bop way to come back. Way to come back. Savannah Ray. Bop, bop. Listen, man.

Starting point is 03:04:09 Way to fight back. No, you did your thing. I didn't even know we was fighting. You did your thing. You didn't fight me since you got here. I'm the sleeper king. I said that. I'm the sleeper king.

Starting point is 03:04:21 I'm the R&B sleeper. Yo, Joe, create some fucking name. I'm the R&B sleeper king., Joe creates some fucking name. I'm the R&B sleeper king. Like, what the fuck are you talking about, nigga? I've just been sitting here watching your growth proud. Oh, man. I mean, proud. Of what?

Starting point is 03:04:33 Huh? Of what? Of how you got better in this sleeper thing. You was coming in here playing number one singles. You played Dead Presidents or some shit. Every song was a Jay-Z song. It was nuts. And these little young baddie artists started reaching out like,

Starting point is 03:04:46 hey, I've got a record. Hey, I love your eyes. By the way, I do music. Hey, I see you've got a platform. Why don't you listen to this? Check out this link. Check out this link I just made last night. Pat, Pat.

Starting point is 03:05:00 I was there, yo. Y'all wasn't there. I was in Queens. I was in Queens, yo. I was outside. L've got a nice versus for anybody oh I don't even give a fuck who you go get we need to talk about versus settling oh that's true oh yeah you talk about versus all y'all was calling Triller broke. They found that money, see? They found some more ownership, too. They found some more ownership, too. 300?

Starting point is 03:05:30 They changed the, they upped the shit for the owners of the shit. For the owners of Versus. You know how they broke it down for everybody involved. They found a little more equity for the guys. Good girls. Good. So-so. I got the instinct.

Starting point is 03:05:48 They call me Jeopardy Dog. They put your booty in the clink, clink. You can dance it to a Marley Marl remix single ball. Single ball. Jingle ball. The jingling baby. Go ahead, baby. The jingling baby.

Starting point is 03:05:58 Go ahead, baby. Oh, I didn't even do the outro. Go ahead, baby. The jingling baby. Girl. Girl. Girl. We was asking, who could L go against?

Starting point is 03:06:08 You got to go get. Who? To beat him or try to beat him? Just that would make a good versus. Buster. Buster maybe, but I still think LL smokes him. But I think. Even that.

Starting point is 03:06:20 Even that. I don't know. I don't know. Even that. I don't like that. It's a good versus, though. That's a good versus, but it's kind of weird because the era's. Yes. That's why I don't know. Even that. I don't like that. It's a good versus, though. That's a good versus, but it's kind of weird because the era's a little weird. Yes, that's why I don't like it.

Starting point is 03:06:28 Yep. That being said, no one from LL era can battle him. Because he kept going until 2000. Yeah, nobody in front of him. There is nobody that can battle him. I know you kids kill L for this opening bar, but listen. They call me Big Ellie. I was excited when this dropped.

Starting point is 03:06:45 This was my shit. Timbaland showed his ass on this beat. Timbaland showed his ass on every beat in that era. This one in particular for me as a nigga signed to Def Jam watching an old nigga just put out a smash right quick. They call me Big L. As soon as that beat come on, I said,

Starting point is 03:07:01 damn. Yeah, as a rapper, you hear that? Damn, yo. He did this. The rapping niggas would have got this beat. They call me Big L. Mic check, mic check. Hopefully, y'all enjoyed this podcast as much as we enjoyed giving it to you.

Starting point is 03:07:18 My dad snuck away again. My dad made some burgers for us. I was getting ready to say Look if he wanna do that He ain't gotta never get on camera Nah he gotta get on camera He make them burgers like that He gotta come sit down And talk to us

Starting point is 03:07:31 Shout out to Pop Shout out to Melly Shout out to Akon Who stopped by Patroni's y'all See that soon Listen keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there

Starting point is 03:07:42 Until the next time I bid you adieu Farewell Adios Arrivederci Hasta la vista Au revoir So long goodbye us in your prayers lord knows we need to be there until the next time i bid you adieu farewell adios arrivederci hasta la vista arvois so long goodbye remember life is a series of moments and moments pass fins up so let's make this one last shut up so let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Finn's up on Sunday. Yeah. I'm going to text you on Sunday. No doubt.

Starting point is 03:08:07 Who y'all got? You tough today. Bills. Yeah, you tough today. I'm not tough. They call you big bucket. I'm going to text him on Sunday. Oh, yeah, man. Who the Giants got?

Starting point is 03:08:19 The Cowboys. Oh, shit. Oh, Cooper Rush. Jerry Jones. It's like Cooper Cup, but different. Let me pause this for a minute to highlight Jerry Jones lying to the media. Let me highlight Jerry Jones lying to the media. It's all, my boy, I'd love nothing more than if a quarterback struggle were to ensue. Because that means we winning games and Cooper Rush is out there winning some games.

Starting point is 03:08:45 Ish, can you speak to this? Tell the truth, yo. I second that motion, Mr. Jones. He doesn't look bad. He doesn't look bad. Hey, Corbin, what you think? He doesn't look bad. What did he say that didn't make sense?

Starting point is 03:08:57 Mass ass nigga. What did he say that didn't make sense? You do not. He is lying. No, he's not. He is lying. Listen to what he's saying. He's lying. Do you hear what he's is lying Listen to what he's He's lying

Starting point is 03:09:05 Do you hear what he's saying I heard what he's I comprehend well He's saying yo I would love nothing more Except for the media Corey you believe that Alright

Starting point is 03:09:11 That's what I said I wonder what Corey Got to say about it Come on You don't have to do this You don't have to die on this hill It's okay bro It's not a hill

Starting point is 03:09:17 It's a steep hill You do not hope That a quarterback war Ensues No you're not listening To what he's saying He's saying yo Cause the media Is the only people that

Starting point is 03:09:25 create a quarterback war. Which means that if you have an inkling of a quarterback war, Cooper Rush is out here killing shit. I totally disagree that the media is who makes a quarterback war. Absolutely. In the instance where somebody's hurt, yeah, the media will do that. Absolutely. They did it with Tony Romo

Starting point is 03:09:42 and Dak. The media can do that. I'm not discrediting what he's saying. But them being the only people that do that, nah, I think practice does that a lot, too. Yeah, the practice for sure. Absolutely. I think what them niggas be seeing behind is, hey, when Colin Kaepernick started turning up, sorry, Alex Smith, you got to go. I'm seeing something different.

Starting point is 03:10:01 Hey, Pat Mahomes, Alex Smith, hey, I'm seeing something different back here. He got to go soon. Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre. There's no way. The coaches, it's not just our coach. There's mad coaches watching all this shit. Let me ask you a question. For hours.

Starting point is 03:10:16 Dak got his job held. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Dak got his job held. Begging. You think Dak was outshining Tony Romo In practice Probably No

Starting point is 03:10:26 He went 12-1 nigga It's Tom Brady He went 12-1 Tony Romo was hurt I ain't talking about Drew Bledsoe He came back hurt But you think the media

Starting point is 03:10:35 Did that He came back hurt No No The media didn't do that As soon as Tony Romo retired The first thing he said was Yeah I had a disc in my back

Starting point is 03:10:42 She was fucked up For the last nine years So I'm sorry about The little fumble snap thing That's what he said Yes The first thing he said was, yeah, I had a disc in my back. She was fucked up for the last nine years. So I'm sorry about the little fumble snap thing. That's what he said. Yes. That's what he said. That nigga was standing crying on the sideline watching that. Ish, if you pay a nigga $300 million or $200 million.

Starting point is 03:10:54 You don't want a quarterback controversy at all. You do not want. You do not want. That's why he said you're lying. Of course. No, that's. I hear. You're missing his point.

Starting point is 03:11:02 He's saying that means we win a game. Yes. As long as we win a game, then I'll deal with that. He's saying, yo, I'm happy as hell if somebody creates a quarterback controversy. Because to have that, that means we winning games out here. For y'all to even say it's a quarterback controversy, we winning games. Or it means you look good in the losses that's coming up. You got money on the game this week?

Starting point is 03:11:19 Shut up. No, you do. He wanted points. No, I got a buck. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You do got money with me. Why the fuck? Yeah, because you had to clarify to make sure he meant it. You do, you do. Was that me and you? No, but he wanted points. No, I don't. You got a fuck? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You do got a fuck with me. Why would I fuck with you? Yeah, because you had to clarify to make sure he meant it.

Starting point is 03:11:28 You do, you do. Is that what? That's exactly how you be losing Monopoly. Yo, last but certainly not least. Yeah, we could bring Monopoly. They got a color play. My baddies are insecure. I'm not a Monopoly guy, but I'll play.

Starting point is 03:11:41 The stagnant women want to travel, and the closed-minded women want to teach you things we ain't doing that no more and is she always want to bring a newcomer monopoly player so he can leech off of him asking what i just said no phenomenal job today gentlemen on gentlemen, on all fronts On all fronts, salute to you guys Salute to you as well Everybody get out Everybody get out

Starting point is 03:12:14 Everybody get out Everybody get out We be posting Hack, I love you, bro I know you got heat on your phone Hey, man, that shit'll die down, man. You'll be all right, man. That shit'll die down, man.

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The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 565 | “This Is Where I Stand”

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