The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 566 | "Jump Ball"

Episode Date: September 28, 2022

On this week’s episode, the guys discuss the new Jeffery Dahmer show on Netflix (13:50) and how it represents America’s fetish for violence (29:10). Rihanna makes her Superbowl performance announcement (44:40). Joe discusses KRS One's comments about money in Hip Hop (1:01:20). Ish talks about a Hip Hop union (1:14:15). Pusha T drops another McDonald’s diss record (1:19:20). Tsu Surf joins the show to discuss Summer Madness (2:11:25), Artists and Label conflicts (2:37:40), and overnight superstars in Hip Hop (2:41:20) + MORE! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP.: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden Sleeper Picks  Joe | Secily - “Without You” Ice | Big Ooh - “Different Era” (Ft. Tdot Illdude) Parks | Milano Constantine & Big Ghost Ltd - “Church Service” Ish | RAY BLK - “Mine”    

Yo, man, we're going to go ahead and keep kicking it. All right, we're going to go ahead and start recording. We have to. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You messed up his, uh... Let's do it with you. More about what's going on in here. More about what's going on in here.

Hello. Hey-o. Come on, we the live fire. Yeah, wake it up back there. Wake it up. Wake it up. Wake it up. Wake it up. Wake it up, back there. Wake it up. Wake it up. Wake it up. Wake it up. Wake it up. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.

I hate knowing my cooking lessons. Or your cooking lessons. Now, gentlemen. Yeah, let Brother Ice know what was going on. Yeah, I missed that. He was asking for some advice on how to cook a lamb chop. How to hook up the lamb chops. Oh, yeah, because you fucked up the lamb chops. I did not. You didn't even put them on? Yeah, I cooked them, but they wasn lamb chops. Oh, yeah, because you fucked up the lamb chops. I did not.

You didn't even put them on? Yeah, I cooked them, but they wasn't as... Oh, they wasn't... They was all right. Okay. So you fucked them up. No. They was all right.

When you do this about your own cooking, that don't... I can't cook, though. So you fucked them up-ish. You want to get better. I would tell you if they was fucked up, I'd throw them shits in the garbage. I ate them. You probably was hungry. I've cooked some shit that I wasn't giving to nobody else,

but I ate. A little too salty. My brother Parsons. Oh, he puts too much salt on it? My brother Parsons. He's telling me Rosemary. I asked these gentlemen to hit record because of the beauty and ish getting his cooking and seasoning tips from this white man.

What's up, man? Yeah, he don't know how to get off brand, yo. You like really defying the odds right here you know brothers don't do that you letting Akon down you letting Akon down I ain't gonna lie somebody gonna get you right

we got a guest one day we got a few guests coming up that's going to crack-ish muffin. Yeah, they going to help. Yeah, because he keeps trying to sound smart talking to me about Bank of America. Don't you worry, buddy. We got some niggas to come in here you can talk your Bank of America shit with. And we got some niggas you can talk some other shit with, too. Yeah.

That other shit. Why do they got to crack my muffin? That other shit, too. Why they got to crack my muffin? Why we just can't have a conversation? It ain't going to go that way. You introduced muffins to the podcast world. I know.

I never heard nobody talk about muffins to you, Pop-Dog. I don't got to debate with them. We got to have a conversation. Proving your value once again. We never even thought about muffins quite frankly. Nah, for real. And I told you I don't put the Muffin Man shit in the shit. Now, let's get into your hypocrisy.

Oh, shit. We're going to have to bingo. Let's get right into hypocrisy. What's that? First of all, a round of applause for Brother Parks. Three no boys. What's going on? What's going on here?

Yeah, I'm a three no boys. It's a little wired thing I'm going to jig you. Yeah, this thing is just me at home thinking of shots. It's my job to think of shots it ain't gotta be shots huh it ain't gotta be shots

no the shots is improv oh the greatest at their crafts you have to be able to improv you might get a heckler one day

you gotta know how to handle those situations that's off the cuff home I actually try to think of interesting shit for us to talk about

but it always gets back to the shots somehow and I mean y'all make them so painfully obvious last week Home, I actually try to think of interesting shit for us to talk about, but it always gets back to the shot somehow. And, I mean, y'all make them so painfully obvious. Last week, Ish started the podcast shooting at Parks wearing his Dolphin shirt. Is that a fact or not? I got a Dolphin shirt in the bag, too.

I'm bugging. Am I making this up or am I not? No, no, no. You did. Is that a fact? I like to be fact-based. You did. You like to be fact-based. You was like, yo, you would come in here with your Dolphin shit on you.

Yeah, you did that. I probably did. No, no. And now you in here with this fucking- I just came in here. With a CD land. Can I get my $100? With a CD land.

Can I get my money? That's a buck. That's all I came in here for. Of course you can. Oh, okay. Thank you. Of course you can. Kindly.

I appreciate that. I don't like balances being outstanding. I don't like balances being outstanding. Look at your man. Look at your man. Oh, my gracious. Yo, A-E-A-E. This nigga got the Orange Juice Jones Miami shirt on. Hey, yo, where you t-shirt

shopping at? I never seen somebody celebrate being at the bottom of the division. Who did that? You. Where y'all at? What y'all at? Like third or something? Fourth? We two on one. Okay, but we two on one. Oh shit, y'all beat us. Dan, I can't talk to you.

Please stop. That'd be y'all third, right? Fourth. No, third. We're better than the commanders. Watch your mouth. My bad. Watch your mouth. My bad. That's how Carson Wentz might have, you know what I mean, stuck a couple wins in there. Oh, no, he looked like Carson Wentz the last game.

He looked back like him. He was Wentzen. That Giants game had the traffic all fucked up over there. Another reminder as to, I'll put this down for Mr. Huxley, as to why I just won't go to a football game. I won't go to a football game. See, when I go to a football game, I don't leave. We be drinking, so we still drinking in the parking lot after the game.

Nothing about that looks fun, yo. The whole New Jersey. Nah, that shit fun. That whole little, that was a mess. No, between the fight and that, the whole New Jersey was at the fight. Because everybody was at the fight. Shout out to Shakur and the Giants games, too. He's a beast. He's Shakur. Yeah, he's a monster. Wait, there was a fight? I didn't know there was a fight. Everybody was at the fight. Shout out to Shakur. And the Giants games too. Huh?

He's a beast. He's a monster. Big Jersey. I didn't know there was a fight. I didn't know there was a fight. And Shakur Stevenson from Jersey fought at the Prudential Center.

Well, from North. Oh, what a mess. Oh, shit. So you could imagine what that looks like. You think you mentally moved to Miami or something, yo. Why is that?

You didn't know it was a fight in New Jersey with a North native? How would I know? I didn't know it was a fight in New Jersey? With a Newark native? How would I know? I didn't know there was a fight. Same way everybody know. We usually watch the fight. What you mean?

I thought I was clear on my question. How would I? I didn't know. Okay. I didn't see it on the internet. I didn't see it on television. I certainly don't speak

to you guys when we're not recording. How would I know? Nobody that knew bothered to call and tell me anything. Huh? Now what? Hello. Wake that up, Joe. It tell me anything. Now what?

Hello. Wake that up, Joe. It's all right. Why didn't I know? I bet you if Tata-licious was at rain, you would have known. It's cool though, bro. Tata-licious. It's all right.

You hear those stereotypes that this guy throws out there? Tata-licious. It's all right, my brother. And again, that's muscle memory. That's just off the muscle memory that I know when Tata-licious. I know. It's ESP, my brother. And again, that's muscle memory. That's just off the muscle memory that I know when Tata Lich is yours. I know. It's ESP. ESP.

How was the fight? Did he win? Of course. Yeah, of course. He's a monster. He's a beast. He was aiming for the knockout. He didn't get it, though.

But he clearly outclassed the dude. It's your call, nigga. You never seen him fight? I'm sure I have, but I don't know. Oh, you wouldn't know if you've seen him fight. Yeah. You sure? He's nice.

I'm going to need you to get on your YouTube. Don't look at murder, death, kill. Look at Shakur Stevenson. Please. Don't look at murder, death, kill. Just look at fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Take it down a notch.

A local artist out here. How old is he? He's young. 21, maybe. Yeah, he is. 22. Maybe like 22-ish. I got to say, is he related to you?

No. I got to ask. It's Nork, though. So he's related. So that's why y'all all excited. No, we just... What's his record? Undefeated.

What is his record? I think 17 and 0, 13-0. I'm not sure. I'm not sure before they start wild. I don't know how many fights he won. I know he never lost. He won them all. He's something in the 0.

19-0. There we go. Thank you, Big A. I'll tell you now. There we go. Rob, welcome back, yo. Welcome back. Hey, yo, we got our young boy camera.

What's up? All right, good. Good, good, good, good. Rob, you was at the Gauchos? Rob was at AAU basketball. Oh. This is it. Mic check, one, two, one, two, mic check.

You know what I mean? I feel like I ain't vibed out with R&B in a little bit And New York fall feels good, so this is what I'm on right now Hey Shout out to our first and last time listeners Shout out to wherever you might be listening from Shout out to some of y'all that's old enough to know about this Let me hear y'all dance Uh, hello

Yeah, don't play with me Here we go Alright, I'm so good. Because when I'm with you. Here you go. All right. I'm just checking my check. Just a temp check. Make sure everybody's alert, awake, aware. Thank God we're here today.

My heart beat fast. You threw me back when you smiled. A lot to get into now that I'm a little bit more informed on this Jeffrey Dahmer shit. I know we're in love. I'm getting right to it. Okay. Wait a minute! Wait!

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You guys. You guys. Y'all are awesome, man. Wow. 66. There we go. 566. You all are fired. How about 66 that?

Niggas don't trust. 86. Yeah. The fuck is 86? Yeah. 86. Yo. Oh, man. Welcome to episode 576 of the Joe Budden Podcast.

66. Oh. You fired two niggas? 566, bro. You put a double on us. Look at you. Look at you. You fired this?

Shut up. No. Can you fire yourself from your fucking little housey gig? Housey gig. The little housey gig you got. Get out. Put the hammer down. Get out.

Welcome to episode 566 of the Joe Budden Podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host, Joe Budden, here with a few really great guys. Brother Ish is here. Brother Ice is here. Yep. Brother Parks is here. Yep.

Corey is back. Three no parks. Some trip that we know nothing about he's back to that again he's back to taking a lot of quick quick flights quick trips that no one knows about your Philly girl came home good old Cory she was locked up for a little while something she's locked up I said to him, I said, hey, you went somewhere this weekend, right? He's like,

yeah. That was it. That's it. That's it. Yeah. That was it. Young boys in the back. Yeah.

All right. How's everybody feeling? How's everybody doing? How was your weekend? Marvelous. Anything exciting going on in life? How's your mental health?

How's your text thread, inbox, DMs, both from the accepted general primary requests? I don't use the other ones. All three. We know, Parks. Well, I just don't know what they're for. You don't use what? The other, like the primary and the general.

I don't understand what that is. I got you, buddy. I don't get that general shit. Oh, my God, yo. What's the difference? You still get the notification. Yeah, but. Nah, seriously. I'm not even. I don't understand that general shit. Oh, my God, yo. What's the difference? You still get the notification. Yeah, but... Nah, seriously, I'm not even...

I don't understand the purpose of it. When you put the hoes in the general, in Gen Pau. I can't call y'all out on y'all lies, because then that's going to make me sound angry and like I'm attacking you guys. I can give you... There we go. I can give you an example.

There we go. Help me out. People that you speak to frequently that you might personally know, have a rapport with, might go on your primary. And that you've spoken back to. Somebody else that you may not

really know like that might fit in your general. But you get the notification either way, so what's the difference? So what? But when you go to your inbox, the people that you speak to frequently are on this side. It don't be flooded with 7,000 other people in the general. But when you go to your inbox, the people that you speak to frequently are on this side. I hate the little guy. They don't be flooded with 7,000 other people in the general.

The people in your general, you normally have allowed them to be in your general from the request. Yes. Okay. They don't just automatically go in your primary. Your primary might be people you already follow, people that follow you. So it's like close friends. Kind of. Not necessarily, but.

Because then you have the right to make a close friend. It just seems like a lot of unnecessary shit let's just say hypothetically you understand I feel you I feel you brother I go to the request

and hit delete all personally just because I don't like the fucking I'm part to get away with this what is Ice doing delete all

I do why I don't read them if I don't talk to you already I don't need to talk to you. Oh, God. Bam, would you like to see? Yeah. Would you like to see?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Toss it to me. Open it up and toss it to me. Open it up and toss it to me. Yeah, please. We would like to see. Open it up and toss it this way. I catch the waters.

Every pod. Go here, and I just hit delete all. I don't read these shits. Can I see? Can I see? So what happens when Mariah wants to be in your joint? She has a verified check. I don't read these shits. Can I see? Can I see? So what happens when Mariah runs into your joint?

She has a verified check and wouldn't go there. We're not opening our show with these automatically. I don't do that. Automatically. I'm talking

I was responding to it. How are y'all doing? We're great. Pretty good. How was your weekend? Excellent. My weekend was great. Full of TLC.

Aww. Tender love and care. Aww. Dick weekend was great. Full of TLC. Tender love and care. Dick and Dahmer. The entire time. I don't know who said that that couldn't be done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were all the way wrong on that. Yeah, he was bugging. I'm not fucking doing Dahmer.

I'm not going to say Dick and Dahmer because he was eating dick. So I'm just, you know. Yo. No, no, he really was eating dick. No I'm just, you know. Yo. No, no. He really was eating dick. No, he was. He was like, you're lying. He was bagging that shit up.

He had the shit bagged in the refrigerator. Somebody's penis? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And that's what y'all putting y'all brain. You didn't watch it? Never.

Yo. For once, can we have a normal pod take it away but not take it away you and he had us thinking like this shit was some super twisted shit that you couldn't even function that's what people say he has a dick in the freezer what are we talking about that is not normal that's not super twisted? Yeah, I don't know what you're looking at. He had a jug of bodies in his bedroom, dog. Like, that's not normal. That's twisted. And it's true.

And it's true. Who created normal? All right, see. I wasn't going that wrong. Well, normal is subjective. Normal is subjective. Y'all can look at me like a psycho. I've already expressed this to fucking Parks.

If there's a market for every other meat in the fucking world, cow tongue, fucking pig ass on YouTube and Instagram, I'm watching livestock. You pick the animal, kill them, shred them, cook them over a fucking rock in the woods. Like, this is the visuals that's out there. You expect me to believe there's not a market anywhere in this world for human meat?

I believe it's market. It's still twisted. It could be. But when you start characterizing something as normal... Not on me to judge the different markets. I'm just saying, that's happening somewhere, and somewhere someone is responsible In the industry

Someone's getting it done And like Like your man You got some weird Meatballs in the Freezer right now That somebody might think Is

Not milk Yeah elk Is the meat So just for clarity Oh yeah yeah yeah But But you get what I'm saying Somebody might look at that

I don't say this to normalize The Jeffrey Dahmer behavior We'll get into that Too Here Damn Ish I wish that you would've seen At least some of this Why you say never I don't say this to normalize the Jeffrey Dahmer behavior. We'll get into that too here. Damn, Ish, I wish that you would have seen at least some of this. Why you say never? Come on, I'll fucking turn the ball over.

No, I just heard about what it was about. It was just like, yo, y'all know my stance on that type of shit. You don't like murder docs. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they said he was killing a whole bunch of young black kids and all that shit. I don't want to see that, yo. See, the shit that got, like, the way you said he was killing a whole bunch of young black kids and all that shit I don't want to see that yo see the shit that got

like the way you and E explained it I mean like nigga we watched Saw like this wasn't gory or nothing

like you they implied a lot they showed maybe a little bit it wasn't as bad as y'all made it seem not saying him I'm talking about

the scenes in the actual they weren't graphic yeah it wasn't as graphic it was a little bit they're a little graphic but they made it seem, not saying him, I'm talking about the scenes in the actual show. They weren't graphic. Yeah, it wasn't as graphic. They're a little graphic. They're a little bit. But they made it seem like, yo, watching this shit will fuck you up. Like, you can't even function after watching this shit. I thought the first few episodes, dare I say, dragged.

Same. I thought they were extremely slow and... I don't know about that. And I got pissed off at it early on because I'm like, goddamn, they're trying to make me feel sorry for this nigga. No, I got about two episodes left. Yeah, they said they tried to humanize him.

I'm at five. They said they tried to humanize him around five or six. They started trying to humanize him around five or six. They started humanizing him early. So now we can actually

have the conversation now that most of us have seen most of it. Yeah. They humanized him. Absolutely. They did. And the victims of the,

the family's victims, the families of the victims have absolutely every right in the world to be upset about that. Bro. Absolutely. Me and Shorty watched it.

We sitting there like, yo, you trying to make us feel, you showing us the issues with his dad and his moms and the drugs that she was on. Like, I don't, don't try to make me understand why he was the way he was

I don't need that And that's why I thought it dragged for the first few episodes Because Too much humanizing of this person Like I used to say You giving me his dad, his dad's take on him His mom, what happened to her Their relationship with him

The trauma that they went through Then the grandma comes into play Spoiler alert for y'all who ain't seeing it Then you're showing me him as a neighbor Their relationship with him, the trauma that they went through. Then the grandma comes into play. Spoiler alert for y'all who ain't seen it. We talking about it. Then you're showing me him as a neighbor. At some point, you're showing me glimpses of him as a lover. Like, they humanized this man the entire way through.

Bro, they show him. He comes home from school. The baby is in the playpen or whatever, screaming, crying. Moms is on the bed, tried to OD, tried to kill herself. Trigger warning. But all of these things, they're trying to say, kind of like, shake tits. Yeah, I'm justified.

I'm a work in progress. Yeah, I'm a work in progress. Oh my God. Yeah, like like you trying to Like I said It's almost like Pulling on your Heartstrings a little bit

Like damn He went through that Damn Like I don't Nah man I'm cool I'm cool That was the only shit

That kind of had us both I'm in my Corey He was a little pissed off I'm in my Corey bag What does that mean For our listeners I'm in my brother Corey X bag on this topic

Alright They wouldn't have Did that to us for our listeners. I'm on my brother Corey X bag on this topic. All right. They wouldn't have did that to us. That's true. They wouldn't have did that to us. They wouldn't have done what? Humanize. Humanize them almost to justify

his cuckoo-ness. You know what I'm saying? Like, anytime, and damn, I don't want to serious us out. We're talking about Jeffrey Dimer. You can be serious. No, Like, anytime, and damn, I don't want to serious us out. Off the rip. We're talking about Jeffrey Dunbar. You can be serious.

No, but anytime something happens with us or with the white people, even when they shoot up a school or some shit, they always go to his troubled childhood, his troubled past, to almost justify and give a rational reason why they are fucked up. You know what I'm saying? Like, they always do that. They don't do that to us when this shit presents itself. Oh, yeah, mother was a crackhead, father was a jail nigga.

He was destined to be fucked up. You know what I'm saying? Like, he just grew up. Yeah, he was a terrorist as a kid. I disagree with this take. I do. I don't. And especially...

You think they do that? Even if they give the same... Yeah, I think they do that even if they give the same I think I think they do that I hate to be the guy that I feel like my take is to take that issue would normally have this is one of those things where I just don't see where I watched the DC sniper doc and they humanized him as well I've watched a few Doc's on black serial killers and they got into I think I think there's like a there's this romanticism thing going on with not white or black but just serial killers madmen murders that's what America's

doing with all of these docs you know what they're trying to educate us about all of them hey that's like behind yo they got people going to the jails. I think Ish's point is valid when they... It's a movie. Not necessarily serial killers. Like, it could be... I can't think of a prime example. Ozark.

I'm thinking more of like Trayvon or someone like that, where they find, oh, he was bad in school. Whatever, you know what I mean? Dog, if it's black. Okay. In that situation, I completely agree with you. like that where they they find all he was bad in school whatever you know what i mean dog ever black okay and in that situation i completely agree i gotta kind of pedal my way back because i don't watch enough of them to even make that statement so let me take i might stand corrected because i don't know watch enough of the serial killer docs and all that shit to know i'm just talking about in the general public in the news anytime something happens they immediately you

know i'm saying like they immediately find the mugshot instead something happens, they immediately, you know what I'm saying? Like they immediately vote. They find the mugshot instead of the happy little picture. No, dog, they go to third grade. Yeah, he pushed a girl down in third grade. Right. You know what I'm saying? And that's your stint. Right.

And so now that's the justification. But when this white kid does some shit from the middle of Nebraska or fucking Oklahoma somewhere. They find him in the soccer picture. Yeah, yeah. Yes. Fact. You know what I'm saying?

So I don't want to watch Jeffrey Dahmer being humanized when he had a penis in the fridge. He's definitely a humanized dude, bro. You know what I'm saying? So I don't want to watch Jeffrey Dahmer being humanized when he had a penis in the fridge. He definitely humanized dude, bro. You know what I'm saying? That's just my stance. But go ahead. Penises to the fridge. Listen, you guys. I'm all right at this potting thing.

I am not as great as you think I am. I am not as great as you think I am. I cannot immediately segue to my hilarious funny takes from your serious, grown-up, mature bullshit. So you segue out of that serious, funky, nasty bullshit that you just did. Or throw it to Isle Parks. Don't throw it to me. I am blank. Because the shit I got to say is hilarious.

And it sounds way more immature coming off of that shit So y'all go ahead I wanna get I know I'll pick the spot To jump back in Like that would've Hey Hey

There you go Y'all pick it up Nah Enough of that for me Nah That's not me I was just getting into Just come on

Go ahead Look how he tucked over In the corner Yo word Cause he do that to me too many times Nah I didn't even mean to do that And today I'm in too great of a mood I'm in a good mood too

I'm in a great great Me too dog Great mood And I wanted to make a conscious effort To come in here on this pod I'm like yo I be in such a great mood I don't know if that is resonating

Through the screen Like people might still think Not the last few People might still think I'm angry and... Not the last few. You've been all... You've been all right. But I just want to...

I just want to... Yeah, because I'm in a great... I see you got your old school Joe hat on. Little, little, little flimsy tee, even though it costs a couple dollars.

It ain't the old school Joe tees, but... You know what I mean? You got your Jersey City scullery on. You might be ready for some business. You might be ready.

You might be ready for some old school pie. Yeah, I was insulted at you. You look like the old Joe. I am the old Joe. No, you're not. And you know the old Joe would have rolled it some more. It's my Salehi Scully.

Yep. I know, but the old Joe would have rolled it. Shout out to Salehi. Shout out to Salehi. Shout out to Salehi. You would have rolled it. I'm still old Joe. All right.

Anyway. I can't walk on the bathroom carpet. 90% of the bathroom is covered in white Persian. I don't even know if that's Persian. Now, Hacker, you blocked that shit. Yeah, that might be some, yeah. 90% of the bathroom. Take your shoes off before you go in the bathroom.

I gotta take my shoes off to go in the bathroom. At work. At the office. At work. At work. Yo, y'all not gonna believe this. There was a point in time where Ish and I agreed on like a lot. A lot. A lot of love. On White Rose. There was a point in time where Ish and I agreed on like a lot. A lot.

A lot of love. On White Rose. There was a time where we just were so in sync. In sync. Ish, that is the bad- He went off and got the Justin Timberlake money, and it just changed. You know what I mean? This left me over here.

The three of us over here doing some bullshit. No, I didn't. I bring you with me, and you still won't sign. I bring you right with me. You gonna get rich whether you fight with me or not, nigga. That is the bathroom and the master bedroom. That's not

a bedroom. Joe, this is the office. He builds houses and we have work. Come on, yo. Come on, forget it, yo. That's the master bedroom. We got 77 cameras and lights in this bitch. You know why this is funny? I don't even know if this is making for a great party. I don't even care.

Fuck it. You know why this is funny? He the nigga that I brought in here when we didn't know what was going in there or there. And he came right in with his house building Tim Allen ass and said, yo. Home improvement. What you could do is wire everything right through the head, bring it all the way. Which gave me to thinking, okay, you can put a bed right there. A master bedroom.

Which would make it. Why would you put a bed there? I'm just curious. Just because. No, for real. All jokes aside. All jokes aside. Let's hypothetically say.

Oh, this is like you not know how to work the DMs again. Oh, I know how to work the DMs. All right, got it. I see what you're doing. Y'all going to stop using this pond in front. All right, go ahead. I don't know either why you would put a bed in here. Who would have thought?

I wouldn't. No, no, no. I was going to be. Don't forget it. Back to Jeffrey Dahmer, please. Shout out to Graham Dahmer, man. I've got swim trunks here. Why?

Why would you have a portable radio here to bring to the pool with swim trunks? Oh, shit. Why would you have the... Oh, shit. They have cooler book bags. Oh, the book bag is a cooler? Oh, man. Why would someone have that?

The fuck is on his tongue? Condoms. Oh, shit. You can... Wait, what? We have Condoms? Oh, shit. Wait, what? We have condoms. What is the use of condoms? Why would you have condoms is a very valid question. You got to stop, yo.

We know you got a girlfriend. You love her. She's your lock screen. That has nothing to do with nothing, bro. But you trying to be part. It's already one part. I'm not trying to be parks, bro. We don't need another park.

He's the only one that can get that one. I can get you a real DM. You know how to work your DMs. I never said I didn't. And you know why you put a bed in there. No, I won't. I wouldn't put a bed in there. I wouldn't.

Hypothetically say. What you would do. Joe had a guest that was coming on the pod. How many bedrooms in your house? Three. Why you got a third? I could do. My streaming room. Do I want to turn? How many bedrooms in your house? Three. Why you got third? My streaming room.

Do I want to turn this part up? My streaming room. Or do I want to keep it cool? Hey, they stopped making stoves when they made yours. Turn it up, nigga. Which way do we go? No, nigga. You my man.

Rosa Acosta might sleep in the bedroom instead of Joe paying for her a hotel when she visits. No, the fuck she won't. No, the fuck Rosa Acosta will not sleep. I was giving an example, asshole. That's a bad example. That's a bad example, right? 17 of them. I was giving it. And that's kind of what I said.

That's why I said that. Back to Jeffrey Dahmer. Go ahead. Go ahead. Back to Dahmer. Go ahead, go ahead, back to Dahmer. He was bagging him, wasn't he? Yo.

He had a high success rate. He did. Literally? He was scooping him up. Yeah, he was also, yeah, yeah.

Come on. Stop, yo. No, he was. Stop. But you can't say he was scooping him up either, because.

This nigga was wild. He was scooping them. I can say that because my brain is functioning as I'm watching this shit. So them lines would have never worked around any of my neighbors, any of my grandparents, aunts, anybody black. I know all of that. Yo, what did he say? Yo, he just kept pulling out stupid lines. Word.

There's a dead raccoon underneath the garage, some crazy shit. Yeah, cook some bad meat. Yeah, my family sent me some pork chops, and I forgot to plug the refrigerator in, so it went bad. Yeah, he was just getting the serious. Everybody that can't, yo, what's that smell? I ain't going to hold you. That first episode, I was, it's got to be sensitive so i'm not gonna say it but go ahead i was close to victim blaming

you can bleep it if we have to because i was just watching like how did you think of what you okay with that see but you know what i'm i'm leave this because this is what happens when the powers that be sensationalize the serial killers and the psychopaths and the murderers. Good point. This is what happens. Ross is on the internet now saying he want a pair of Dama shades. They lighting his ass up too.

They killing him. Hey, I saw, I saw. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, like I saw a dude that was like. Y'all. I saw the little, like I guess they screenshot the tweet or whatever that was going all over Instagram and everywhere else. Dude was like, I ain't gonna hold y'all. Dama would have got me.

Like it would have worked. I seen another meme that said, oh, you thought I was feeling you? Nigga, you lunch. I saw another dude, another one said, yo, imagine if Diamond had an air fryer. Like, they turned, it turned into jokes. And that's what happens when they, and that's, and that, now listen. I'm about to say something that could be taken the wrong way. Please don't take this the wrong way.

They're going to take it the wrong way. My whole career is y'all taking things I say the wrong way. And I still keep going, too. You figure I would just shut the fuck up at some point. But you got to be that guy. Listen, I think this is a valid point. We talk about how the families feel of the victims having to relive this and rewatch it and have this be main topic again in culture and be memed. Know what we don't talk about i don't know that jeffrey

domler's family is okay with this being brought back up i don't know all the work that had to go into for them to kind of blend back into society and now y'all bring this back up number one number two point number two if you're gonna profit off of the likeness of trauma that our family had to endure why am i not getting paid from this that sounds sick i am clear that for this particular topic that sounds sick but if i I had a great, great grand uncle that was running around causing havoc. I don't think it sounds sick. And that was brought back up all

of these years later. No, you altering my life. You altering my life now. For sure. Just for free off the strength of I still don't know how y'all can just do this with anybody's likeness that y'all feel like it. I don't. That is nuts. I don't. I agree. I agree. I agree 100%. You'reall feel like it. I don't. That is nuts. I don't. I agree.

I agree. I agree 100%. Okay, so I don't sound all of us. Not how, no. All parties, all victims, and, you know, victims. Because there's victims on both sides. Yeah. I was just going to say,

there are victims too. Yeah. Everyone should get to eat. No pun intended. I wouldn't say his family is necessarily victims, but they are affected traumatically. For sure.

You know what I'm saying? So they definitely don't want to relive this. They are victims. They're victims, dog. By the exact definition of the word. Probably. Like you going to the bank, and now somebody's cashing your check,

and you Victoria Dahmer, and they looking at you like, you know what I'm saying? Like you don't want to deal with that. Word. That shit was decades ago. Nigga, you go put a job application in

and you see that name excuse me what and nothing if that's your brother or whatever you're traumatized by this shit too

absolutely what the fuck you see when they told first episode after he got arrested and they explained to his father

his father was like yo I thought when you said murder investigation he got murdered right and they broke down what we found

and what we were accusing him of doing. Yeah. That broke him down. Hey, spoiler alert. Y'all can cover your ears. At the end of this, well, I'm not at the end, but where I'm at, the neighbor gets fired. The neighbor gets fired from a job because she was traumatized.

From just living next door and hearing all of that shit every night. Like, even that was nuts. When they came in there after they arrested him, it was like, yo, this whole building is now a crime night. Like, even that was nuts. When they came in there after they arrested him, it was like, yo, this whole building is now a crime scene. Yo, you gotta leave. Yeah. Like, where the fuck am I going? And they're already in low rent. They were in low, yeah. Yeah, like, they're already not

doing so hot. Even the cop asked him, like, what you doing living here? We call this a drug something. Like, why you here? And I'm not gonna hold you. Bad neighborhood, bad, you know. I'm just gonna throw this out there too, man. I'm not gonna hold your bad neighborhood bad you know i'm just gonna throw this out there too man i'm not gonna do it y'all don't have to ride with me y'all don't have to ride with me yo but this is just where my brain is they gonna get me i don't know if i hear enough from the lgbtq community right now i ain't gonna lie to you

the LGBTQ community right now. I ain't gonna lie to you. Whichever way they sit on it, they were very vocal during them Aaron Hernandez docs. I'm gonna repeat. That community at large came together when that Aaron Hernandez doc came out

about the representation and the narrative that was being spewed about his sexual preference and orientation being cause for his killing spree.

His crime. I see the same exact thing in this Jeffrey Dahmer doc. That is exactly what they are doing. Where's the fuss? I would be angry at that. Because not only do I think that this country is doing some weird fetish shit with serial killers,

but as of late, you know pop culture, being gay today for some businesses is trendy. That's true. Yes. So it's not just the serial killers. It's the gay serial killers. I would have an issue

with that. Yeah. I would. Like they're marketing it. Yeah. Now I'm not one to speak. No, no, no. I see your point.

I can't speak for it. I mean if they don't care they don't care but why care with Aaron Hernandez and not Jeffrey Dahmer cause they really

got into it in this Jeffrey Dahmer shit this is new how the real shit took place when 91

in the early 90s yeah I remember I was in high school in the early 90s so it was a different it was a different culture then. Aaron Hernandez was plastered all over the fucking television eight, nine years ago, ten years. You know what I'm saying?

So shit had started to pick up a little steam, become a little more powerful. But even then. Nah, I can't go with that because I've seen them get outraged over shit that was years ago that just resurfaced. 30 years ago, the LGBTQ plus community didn't have the same voice that they have today. They don't stutter when you say next time. Nah, I had to get

all the letters out. But that's, we all had to learn that shit now. Nah, I'm just saying they didn't have the same voice publicly that they have today.

True. Jokers, gay kids were still hiding in the closet for fear of being persecuted back then. I mean, they probably still are,

but they definitely have, no, they probably definitely have a stronger voice today than they had 30 years ago. But we've, I've also, reason why I can't,

I've seen the community be up in arms over some things that happened 20, 30 years ago that have just resurfaced today. No, but this just came out last week.

But this is... So they might go crazy. You never know. They might start up. I'm just saying this just happened last week. I mean, the doctors... You're saying give it a little time. Yeah, give it a little time.

Once it catches fire, they might be up in arms. Once that shit starts winning some awards, which it probably will. Because that's going to be another thing. And the other day that lead actor I'll get a phenomenal job. Just a homeboy is that a great job? Yeah, he hit that out the park think about that See, that's a shame that we're saying this in relation to what I was about to say think about this, right? Let's just say they they run the table. What is it the Emmys? Whatever one? Yeah

I'm not cultured So let's just say he runs the table at the Emmys, right? They win mad awards. Yeah. He's winning awards off the death of my niece or my nephew. That's crazy to me that you got to relive that and see it on TV. Channel 7, Channel 4, Channel 2, Channel 5. They clean up at the Emmys.

Then by association, it's almost like you're celebrating Jeff. Yes. And the success. You telling the next director or writer out there, yo, let's go do that. Fam, we're calling him Jeff. Where? Yeah, that was nuts, too. Think about this shit.

That was nuts. His name is Jeff. He's going to be Jay by the time this shit. That was nuts. His name is Jeff. He's going to be Jay by the time this shit over with. Can't name your kid Jeff no more. Nah, that's crazy. You got to say the nigga first and last name. Word. You can't just shorten the nigga shit to the nickname of Jeff.

Jeffrey Dahmer, nigga. I want y'all to get to the end. Hey, the cops brought the kid back to his house. I saw that. Yeah, yeah the end. Hey, the cops brought the kid back to his house. I saw that. Yeah, yeah. I saw that. The cops brought the kid back to his house. Say, nah, that's my boyfriend.

He drunk. It's not funny. This is sick shit. Yeah. There was a couple times the cops were involved and just were like, oh. Like, when they pulled him over. Spoiler alert again. He got the whole body in the fucking truck.

Oh, yeah. And they're just like, oh, we don't want to see you get a bad tarnish on your record. So just go home. He's drunk driving with the body in the back truck. And then it's like, oh, we don't want to see you get a bad tarnish on your record, so just go home. He's drunk driving with the body in the backseat. Shit, even when, more spoiler alert, when...

Yo, just fast forward this whole pod if you haven't seen Dom. When the drunk dude, the kid, and the cops took him, when he said, yo, it's my drunk boyfriend,

the cop's like, yo, is it any gay stuff in there? He's like, yeah. They didn't even want to touch nothing. Even had a police treatment. Yeah, yeah. I would be up in like, yo, is there any gay stuff in there? He's like, yeah. They ain't even want to touch nothing. Even had a police treaty. Yeah, yeah. I would be up in arms, yo.

Yeah, the police turned the other way because they was like, yo, we got to get out of here. Their depiction of this, you should have watched it so you could join the convo. No, I want to join the convo, but I just don't want to say certain shit. We got TSK back there. We can edit this shit out. We good. You have a white man in an all-black community. We're going to throw the ball out of hands.

Oh, man. Come on. Come on. Yo, you got that teammate. He just won't catch the ball. Fast forward. I can't. Yo, I'm good.

Corey. We putting it right in the numbers. Nah, my nigga Corey, man. CD dropped last night, too. CD dropped. Yo, man. CD dropped, so. Still, I don't know.

He got 18 in fantasy. He showed up. He was on my team. Want to know don't know. He got 18 in fantasy. He showed up. He went on my team. Want to know what Javante Williams got? What Brandon Cooks got. Want to know what Brandon Cooks got? I want to fight Ice Cousins so bad. Boy, did he sabotage my team.

I have the worst team in the universe. I have the worst fantasy team in the world. Yo, Dempsey ain't shit. I just love how he stood on it and drafted the same team in our league. So he wasn't trying to sabotage the shit. That's really what he believed. Denver coach is out there drunk. Nah, that's a fact.

He's over his head. At this point, it shouldn't be week three and we watching just to see him be drunk. Because he is bugging. He's over his head. Anyway, back to... Not like Mike McDaniel. I do want to hear what you were saying. Seriously.

Think about this, right? If the cops in an all-black neighborhood are giving this white dude tons of grace almost to the point where it's like, oh, pardon me. Sorry to disturb you, sir. Right. Sorry to disturb your cannibalism.

Yeah, like, yo like Yo we not even gonna Investigate the white dude They didn't even ID the kid You get what I'm saying Like think about What we talking about If you didn't see it Hold on

He's telling them Yo the dude What he said 21, 19 How old he was Yeah he said 19 He says like Yeah but

The neighbor is like Yo no that's a kid Like my kid said They see him out there Playing the little kid shit Double check And make sure That that's an adult. Like, my kid said they see him out there playing little kid shit. Double check and make sure that that's an adult. They're like, no, no, we took care of it. There's nothing else we could do.

The white man's ice is colder. His word stands for more than your word. So we don't got to double fat check. No, where it comes into play and what you're saying is his parents kick his white ass out of his house because he was a weirdo. And he picked this down-rotten, black, underserved community where he could just run rampant. And have weird smells coming out of his house. Knowing that don't nobody give a fuck.

Don't nobody give a fuck. Ain't nobody going to come investigate. Ain't nobody going to come. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy, man. And we're going to wrap this up because we shouldn't spend an hour on work Jeff but uh that was satire shouldn't you satire in this topic yeah but uh this nigga killed his

neighbor nigga just happened to move in Kill them quick, too. Oh This is the one that hurt and then we out of he killed Todd He killed Todd that one hurt. Y'all didn't get to that part yet, but man he killed Todd Tony Tony Man, yo rest in peace Tony see and that's where the victim victims families really pop up for me because it it's like, if I'm at home feeling bad that you killed Tony, you done killed everybody. You done been a complete sicko. He was wild.

But this one here, you didn't have to do that. He sat and played that little stupid psycho Infinity Stone game you made up. He related to you. He identified. He was helping you understand things. Oh, man, that was sick. And he got away, but he forgot his key. Oh, man.

I don't want to give any more away. He killed Tony. That was some bullshit. Rest in peace to all the victims of... Definitely. Sorry to anybody that this has caused pain to you. Word. Because I could not imagine it being me or my family members

or I'd be pissed. Uh-huh. That would be depression. I'm suing somebody. I want to sue somebody. Bro, by episode two. I'm suing somebody. I'm pulling up on somebody.

I was upset for the families of the victims by episode two. Yeah. I was like, oh. And where'd you live off? I'm at five now. And you left off at six. No, I'm at six.

Yeah, I'm at like eight. Because he said he got two more to go. Gotcha. Yeah, I'm killing. Pause And you left off at six No I'm at six Yeah I'm at like eight Cause he said he got two more to go Gotcha Yeah I'm killing Pause Yeah no That's my whole weekend Dick and Dom

Yeah y'all said Y'all was like You wouldn't even be able to fuck After watching this Oh I knew y'all was wrong What a stallion Hey some of my best performances What a

I was putting in Fucking grade A Top top tier effort. Like, playoff, game seven. Coach drew up the play for me. It's the ice. Like, yeah, some of them fucking. A little drilling. Some of them positions I ain't in since early 30s, late 20s.

Oh, man. What's wrong with you? What? I'm dead ass. When you're young, sex is like a lust thing. Like, you want to do it. It's like fun. When you're older, it's an activity.

It is a physical thing that you have to account for. It's part of your workout regimen. No, it is your workout regimen. No, you got to plan the day around it. I got to eat right, not drink too much, have the bubble guts while you fucking, my legs. Did you stretch? Did you sleep?

What I got to do in the morning, actually? What time? What I got to do in the morning? What's my window to fuck? No. I got to go to sleep at a certain amount of time

to make sure I'm rested up. You young, you just be trying. Do I really want to see this show? Can we fuck through this show? There's a lot to factor in. He is. He right. They don't know that. You young nigg just be trying shit. Do I really want to see this show? Can we fuck through this show? There's a lot to factor in. He is. He right.

They don't know that. You young niggas will get there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hopefully. That's funny. When you young, you be just trying shit. Yeah, no doubt. Put your foot up there.

Put your ankle over there. Now you be like, nigga, you touch my ankle, I crack. Fuck, Roger. You know I got bad back tendonitis? All that bullshit. Crazy. Yeah, Roger. You know I got bad back tendonitis? All that bullshit. Crazy. Yeah, for real. Oh, yo.

Hey, yo, you got Cartier glasses on with the... Yo, I'm still like this one of y'all. Still what? That little Cartier with the scully. I like that. It's nice, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's pretty cool.

This nigga Teef. You like that, right? No, I'm just saying. Nah, it's a nice look, bro. I like that. It's pretty cool. You like that, right? I'm just saying. It's a nice look, bro. Niggas can't give compliments, take compliments, accept compliments. Thank you, my brother. What else we got?

What else we got? Want to go to the Super Bowl, man? The big announcement? That's fire. That's fire. I'm excited. Especially because the Dolphins are going to be there. Shit. Want to go to the Super Bowl, man? The big announcement? That's fire. That's fire. I'm excited. That's fire. Especially because the Dolphins are going to be there? Shit. Super Bowl at SeaWorld.

What the fuck are you talking about? That's the only way a Dolphin is going to be there. What the fuck is wrong with you? This nigga is stupid. Fucking Dolphins. At SeaWorld. Yo, look what y'all did. Y'all put Dolphins at SeaWorld. That's fucked. Yo, look what y'all did to the... Y'all put dolphins at SeaWorld.

That's fucked up. Yo. Put them in a pool. If that ain't some animal abuse, if I ever seen it, boy. Humans are terrible, bud. Humans ain't shit. They're terrible, yo. So we celebrating that, right?

What? The Super Bowl announcement? Hell yeah. Absolutely. You not celebrating that? Let's throw it out of bounds. Never mind. Let's throw the ball Right out of bounds

We keep it Go ahead yo Damn yo We had just gotten Seven fast break points Nah we gonna keep it in Now we got this nigga On the break

On the wing Some hate How you felt some hate in this? Yeah come on Serve it up Serve it up She just turned the Super Bowl down Yeah

A couple years ago right? Yeah For what reason? Solidarity What changed? Between then and now A lot Now they hearing

Hov did Hov did Hov changed Hov did Why you acting dumb? I'm not acting dumb Why you acting stupid? I'm not acting dumb

Dumb Okay But what the fuck Yo what are you talking about? We got invited to the table now Ice come on Alright alright Then I'm with y'all then

That's Okay Ice you making me mad Ice put yourself in Rihanna's shoes, man. Yo, the internet has really changed Ice. What are you talking about, dog? Nigga told you to go to Burlington. Yeah.

Ice said, I'm not going in there. And I said, yo, I'm riding with my man. I ain't going in there either. Right. But then you saw the manager at the store. He apologized and he explained some shit to you. And he said, yo, now you're welcome. And now Ice is going to the spot.

I'm going to go to the spot now because they they worked it out but she was in solidarity with what cat was standing for right where was that worked out i think it's in the workings i really do i ain't even that's all i'm saying i think it is that's my point like that one i'm not out i'm not even caping for home boy i just think it's a conversation that's all i was saying that's it these niggas will yank the i said i wasn't going to go there y'all said go slow down the fast break yo we invented the slow break we gotta start cutting joe we got so we invented the slow motion break to the leg oh those is two miles per hour on the break. We'll outpace the other team. They go talk about us like Luca.

He really plays at his own pace. Hov did. Come on, man. Hov did. That's all it is. Hov did. Now, that was mild in comparison to what I got to say about this shit. Listen, I'm as much of a...

Let me put the down so they can see me. Let me sit up, fix my shirt. Oh, shit. I know when I'm going to go viral. Listen, I'm as much of a Rihanna fan as the next guy. I better not see A$AP Rocky ass Fucking with an American kids flag on his back. Prancing around the fucking stage. I bet not see it.

I'm telling you. That will be one Super Bowl party. End it. Don't you do it. This nigga hates A$AP. You hate him, yo. I like A$AP. I also do not want to see A$AP at this.

I like A$AP. Hey, guess what? If that's my woman, fuck y'all. You will see me. Stop it. Stop it. Okay. See, let's fight about that. We don't have to fight. I will be, let me be ASAP. Let's debate about that then.

Let's do it. You wouldn't rather be the guy to not take away from your wife's shining moment on the side of the stage in awe, letting her develop her own shit to her own base without your fucking leeching, bummy ass? No? I didn't say that.

Hov don't come out all at every B-show talking about I'm Hov. He be on the side in the supporting role. Hey, the internet was kicking off that ass when he was trying to get his family back and he was interrupting the Cardi show. They said, get your fuck Stop, yo. Stop. Do not show me if

Don't show me A$AP Rocky at the Super Bowl. Okay. Now you can pay the camera. You'll definitely. If he on the side. No, you can paint the camera. You'll definitely. If he on the side. I'm talking about on the stage. Don't, don't. Now there's a new ASAP verse in Umbrella.

All right. All right. I'm telling y'all, when these two young niggas be. Let's get it. When these two niggas be in love, you know how it is when you in love, y'all. Yes. I've done it. We've all done it.

Yo, listen, listen. If A$AP Rocky get up there, game is going to go crazy. He's going to go absolutely fucking crazy. And rightfully so. Where the Super Bowl at this year? Arizona. Oh, yeah. New York nigga got out here and got on the Super Bowl?

I couldn't get on in L.A.? He would have all the right in the world to go. I couldn't get on in L.A.? He would have all right in the world to go. I couldn't get on in L.A.? No, that was funny. That was hilarious. This guy is funny. That was hilarious. Please don't do that.

Now, I have the opposite. I have this two sides of the coin, too, now. Let's hear it. Okay. That was what? Heads. Let's call it heads. Tails is three of us here have had babies

Once the pregnancy is done Once the baby get here Once you settle into what this new life is like One of y'all gonna wanna get the fuck away from the other person Wasn't he just at Rolling Loud? Yeah, he was. He was just at Rolling Loud. I know, in the little mosh pit.

Yeah. I'll save my jokes. I'll save my jokes. But anyway, yeah, Rihanna could be trying to get back in her music bag, getting away from all of the chopped cheese and bodegas that ASAP's had her around all summer. Finally made me remember who the fuck she is

and said, oh, let me go and do like Rihanna-style things like the Super Bowl now. Oh, it's on the West Coast, right? Yeah, you stay here in New York. You rolling what this time? This you're doing?

Rolling loud New York.ork oh you want weed i'll have uh tyler bring weed for chauncey bring weed for you need oh a show where no i'm gonna i'm rihanna I'm not going to that she was at the show really yeah was she happy though that's what Drake's saying that's dope

yo oh shit I hope ASAP don't catch you catch you me too that nigga just imagine oh lord I hope A$AP don't catch you. Catch you. Me too. That nigga. Oh, Lord.

All right, come on. Oh, my God. This is going to be a great Super Bowl halftime, man. Oh, yeah. That's what we're talking about. It's going to be a great halftime, man. It'll be one of the best. With most of these, there'll be other acts and announcements. They better not.

Oh, stop it. Sit down. Ain't nobody else coming out here. We don't need nobody else with and announcements. They better not have no problem. Oh, stop it. Sit down. They got to let her just. Ain't nobody else coming out here. We don't need nobody else with this one. Ain't nobody else coming out. Rihanna got this one. She got this one.

Easy, too. She's going to go crazy. Easy. Easy. You can bring Hope out. No. Don't need nobody. I'm saying you don't need nobody.

It'll kill her, Sean. I would rather bring out somebody less than that she got a feature with her. I would rather not bring anyone. No, I'm just saying if she did. I'd rather she didn't bring anyone. Bring out another female or something. But not nobody else that would take her shine away. Who else would even be?

There's no... Hov would be the only person that would be like... Michael Parsons might be there. You know what I'm saying? Come out, a little halftime. Gatorade, Splash. They won't be there. They're definitely there. He might be there. Micah might go. He might go. Sit in a box with Fandolo. No, Splash they won't be there they're definitely there

he might be there Micah might go he might go sit in a box he ain't won't be doing nothing else he'll certainly be available well rested too

he's been chilling for a couple weeks now free as a bird yo football player yo phantom football team you believe that? Mike, am I being real? We got a shot.

Just because you beat the Giants? Shot at what? What's the odds? What's the odds? Yo, let's look up the odds over here. He picked the Hawks to win the chip last year in the odds? Yo, let's look up the odds. He picked the Hawks to win the chip last year in the NBA too

because his nephew was over there. Nigga told us. You think I got a shot? Absolutely. To the Super Bowl, not just making the playoffs. What's he going to do

with the Bucs? What? The Bucs, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You seen the game? Fuck the Bucs. What you going to do with that team down the turnpike down there?

What you going to do with them? We going to see, bro. We ain't got to get to the Bucs. That's true. What are you going to do with them? That's your argument. You just got to shut the fuck up. That's not an argument.

Then make the argument. You can't go on first take and say, we might be there. You'll see. You have to back that up. Cool. Say'll see. You have to back that up. Cool. Say no more. Any defense in the NFL this year? Dallas defense is legit.

Performing like ours? Dallas defense is legit. Tampa Bay's defense is very fucking legit. Fuck your Tampa Bay out your fucking mind. Our defense is crazy. Dallas defense is for real.

We stopped Tampa Bay six times in the red zone. This is fucking Tom. But Tampa's defense is real too. Don't do that. I'm not disagreeing. But Dallas' defense is real. Our offense ain't shit. Alright, but go ahead. Check. So we've seen... It's not like us.

We've seen teams where the defense can propel you... It's not like us. Where the defense can propel you far. AFC is different. I'm just saying. So... Go ahead. We got Dak coming back. We got Gallup coming back. We got a good running game when you combine the two.

It don't got to be Zeke. It don't got to be Pollard. But combined, they're pretty sufficient. When Dak comes back and Gallup comes back with CD, I think we got a shot. You don't. He convinced me a little bit. He convinced me a little bit.

I don't think there's no team with us fully healthy that we just counted out of the game. He convinced me a little bit. You can't say that either. He did. I don't know,'s no team with us fully healthy that we just counted out of the game. He convinced me a little bit. You can't say that either. He did. I don't know, man. I still. I got to deal with the Rams.

I don't think they'll be there at all. He didn't convince me because of Mike McCarthy, which he just failed to realize. That's my point. I hate him. That is a point. But it's about who's clicking at the right time. If Dallas picks it up and survives this, which it looks like they will, then you can't just count them out. They're defense for real.

Pass rush is pass rush. Defense is for real. We've seen the fucking Giants win two chips off of pass rush. Got a point? Say whatever you want. If I'm Mike, Michael Jordan, I go in the locker room. What he did, he told the niggas not to pass Kobe the ball or some shit.

Can't pass this to ball. God damn. You told me to expound. I know, but I just be fucking with you. Oh, man. All right, come on. What else we got? Oh, what was we on?

Rihanna. Rihanna. Rihanna. Rihanna. Congratulations. Jokes aside, congratulations. Yes, it's going to be great. I'm ecstatic about this.

I love the announcement. It was just the picture on Instagram. Fuck your reels. That picture on Instagram. Fuck your reels. That picture was hard. Fuck your reels. Fuck your whatever else you're trying to do. This is the biggest news, and it's just a picture. Just a picture.

Holding a football. That was enough. That's all. I thought that they made the announcement pretty early. It does seem a little early. Now, in years past, have they normally made it around week three? Week three. I don't think so.

That seemed a little too early for me for the Super Bowl, which is in February. Yeah. I think they'd be in the mix of trying to find people. You know what I'm saying? Like you trying to find people and get commitment. But if you found somebody on the level of Rihanna and you are the NFL and y'all have agreed to this already, why would you announce this right now? You would not.

I'm definitely announcing it. You're definitely announcing it. You would not. All right. I am. Look up them flights going to Arizona that weekend. Not just that. Coming off of last year's Super Bowl halftime show,

we just won Emmys for that. We won a high. I want to show y'all. They won all the awards. Yeah, so I want to show y'all that we right back at it and I'm going to show you. Alright, we got this agreement. The ink dry here. Put this up now. Run. So they know we back

again. And nigga, this is Rihanna. I wouldn't do it. I'm just saying what I would do and I'm nobody, but if I were had that uh level decision making week three it could have been pre-season as soon as we got this agreement down i think this happened this early now because rihanna is releasing music and made them announce it this early i wouldn't be shocked if she is coming with music behind like that should be a foregone fact that she's got music coming,

but the music coming part makes it a little more palatable to me, I guess, to promote this. Because they changed the Instagram thing

to National Fenty League. Yeah. Oh, that's funny. Like, that's funny. They did it for, so, yeah, I don't know if they're booze the NFL, I would have held that maybe till week six.

Eight. Yeah, somewhere around six to eight. But anyway, congratulations, I'm hype. I'm very rarely am I, do we get a Super Bowl performance that I'm hyped for last year? Last year too, right? Yeah, absolutely. Last year I was, but just more so,

I was more so hyped that they were playing to us now. To us. That was where my excitement came from. If I was on the West Coast, I probably would have been... Ecstatic. Yeah, like through the roof. But I was excited about that. This, I think, captures a few more of us.

Older. Yeah. Last year was more like women. Hip-hop. Yeah, yeah. Older. This is sound. Older us.

Yeah. That is a pop story. My wife is excited about this. You know what I'm saying? This hits a little different. True. I agree with that. She'll be excited about next year's too.

Bad Bunny. You know they're going to go get him at some point. They're going to do that. He put up too much numbers on their boards. Bunny. You know they're going to go get him at some point. They're going to do that. He put up too much numbers on that board. Yeah, they're going. I thought that would be the announcement for this year. I wouldn't have been shocked. Would you kiss him?

I don't think so. All right. If he pulled you on stage, you. Tall man. You come up here. He'd kiss me on the cheek baby you know okay tall man what would you go on stage one he's gonna like if he pulled you up there he's going I don't think I'm he's going dumb pool was it be making dust I'm not really to go on stage guy bad buddy bad bunny hasn't called you on stage

that's a little different if I'm in a group with him I'm tearing him up after this podcast where you said a bad bunny called you on stage you wouldn't go in a group on a verse? I'm sorry? What's your man name? Griff. Giff. Giff. Pardon me. Shout out to Graff. Graff and Griff. Graff is from Jersey. Pardon me.

Something's wrong with this guy, man. Phone plug. You know what that means. You got one on the line. Who might that with this guy, man. Oh, phone plug, you know what that mean? Oh boy. You got one on the line. Who might that be? No, ain't nobody on the line. Oh, okay. I just meant to start with, I just meant to start with-

Got a fire clip for us? This I think, where am I right now? No, we've said Griff, which made me think of Professor Griff, which made me think of Public Enemy, which made me think of the fathers of this shit, which made me think of professor griff which made me think of public enemy which made me think of the fathers of this which made me think of care rest and then you made me think of this whack about hip-hop the worst thing 1979 sugar hill records he says this is the worst thing that ever happened to hip-hop when sugar hill records came out a woman named sylvia When Sugarhill Records came out, a woman named Sylvia Robinson. Shout out to Sylvia.

And her husband, Joey Robinson. And Joey. They owned all of rap. Washington Projects. If you could somehow phantom that in your head for a hot minute, there was one record label that had all the top rappers of the day on it, and no other company had that She's right have we stuck together

Black people would not be in the situation. They say hip-hop is a 10 billion dollar culture every year. That's black people money we should be having. But black people rejected us and lost 10 billion a year. 10 billion a year gone. Whole dream of Dr. King gone. Take it up now to Sugar Hill Records. All the greatest hip hop acts are on the label. But they're not getting treated right. Black people are ripping off black people. I say this respectfully because I'm talking about our parents. These are older blacks ripping off the talent of younger blacks. Respectfully. KRS. Scott LaRock, Boogie Down Productions, B-Boy Records.

Black men are taking advantage of young black talent. B-Boy Records was owned by black people, older black men from the 50s and 60s. was owned by black people, older black men from the 50s and 60s, you would think after everything we went through in civil rights, you see a young man coming up, he calls himself Knowledge Reigns Supreme, and he's trying to come up, he's homeless, he's in the street, but he's talking that blackness, and you see he got a crowd around him, and you see he got some little talent, you're not going to him off and say, Yo, young blood, come on, let me show you something. Let me protect you. No, they were the first ones to come in, rip off me and Scott LaRock for the Criminal Minded album.

To this very day, black folk still ripping me off for the Criminal Minded album. To this very day. Because I'm already a wealthy person I really don't care. So I allow black folk to eat off the album. I allow bootleggers to eat off the album. I allow people to do that. It doesn't bother me. But if you want to talk principle, black people are taking it, they're eating their children. they're eating their children they're eating their children this is the worst thing to happen to not only hip-hop but to black civilization in the united states now we didn't that's deep yo how do you not start with this shots chaos i got two things

i meant to start with that but you were asking for seasoning tips from Parks. So that's what I mean. Kind of goes against the messaging. But powerful, right? Shout out to Karis. Shout out to Karis, one. Shout out to Chuck D. Shout out to our predecessors.

Always. I got two things with that. One, where he says, yes, today hip hop is a $10 billion a year business. Hindsight is 20-20. We don't know that it would get here had they kept it. We don't know that for sure. So to say that we losing that money today, the deals that were bad deals, the selling out to corporations kind of pushed it to that level. We don't know for sure that had they kept it, it would have turned into this. That's one.

And two, the black people that he named that were ripping off, the older black people that were ripping off the younger black people, at a certain time, that's all like, it's like how we talked about the deals that Puff and them were giving out. Like, this is the industry that I knew. This all I knew like as we gain more information then people

move a little differently but at that time you don't know you don't even this is how the game is played this is how we sign deals this is how you're supposed to do it so it's like a lack of information all the way across the board we don't necessarily know that we would get to this point without those road bumps, without the bad deals, without selling out that we get here today. And I just think when people try to rewrite history and say, oh, had we done it, had we kept it, we would be up. And we don't know that hip hop could have fizzled out. It could have never grew outside of the parks in New York had they kept it. We don't know that. And I just don't think it's fair

to put that on folks that didn't know. I trust KRS-One. He was there. I'm not saying that. I couldn't disagree with half of your point more. With point number two, you hit it out the park. I think it speaks to the deep-rooted psychology and conditioning and treatment that we have received since the beginning of time. I think that gets really deep in your point number two.

And point number one, all of that's bullshit because it wouldn't matter if you owned it it wouldn't matter whatever it turned into as long as you owned it like what you talking about is how this business kind of still operates under this kind of kind of fuckery hey without you uh but no without my participation or our participation or the label participation or the video participation or this department without us, you may not become you. Your talent might not be great enough to earn you X and Y Z and niggas jump through hoops to,

for that opportunity because of where we from. But what about instilling the confidence in people's ability? Like he just said, the guy that from nothing has a crowd around him and people just amazed at what he can do and nurturing and catering to that and seeing where that can get you. Yeah, I think this turns out totally different. Every and as far as your information point, every generation had him. Yo, dog, I don't agree with much of what I said. Because,

one, he said they were older black people that had already been in the business. And so my stance on that is whether it's construction, whether it's music, whether it's entertainment, whether it's whatever, fam, we

owe it to our own to assist so you can make money off somebody without pillaging it's a it's it's definitely a middle ground yo i i hate stances where people look at it like um it's sink or swim it's feast or famine there's a middle ground for everybody to get paid you get what i'm saying so i agree i don't like those business principles um and and one thing i'll say ice and this is my argument to even joe and y'all when y'all say that the label has a value absolutely the label has a value there's definitely no um denying that but black people are setting culture for italians and and Europeans used to set fashion trends. They still in our shit now.

We've, we've run in that. Put a new name on it. You get what I'm saying? We've run in all of that shit. So I don't think that hip hop would have ever died. I think once it caught on, it would have never died.

I think that especially found in the New York city, it's not a fucking Oklahoma, like no, no disrespect to Oklahoma, but once you're in New York City, you're going to hit the fashion industry. You're going to hit Wall Street. You're going to hit New York radio

and New York markets and all of that stuff. I don't see it fizzling. So if we would have kept control of it, I don't see it dying. It might have been a slower burn to get to the top, but we definitely still get to the top, in my opinion. And just again, whatever it turns into, you own it.

I get what you're saying. I get that. They teach you that. Even if it don't make $10 billion a year, it'll make $5 billion, but you still own it. Good old, shout out to Theo.

Theo said, treat every record release like it's going to be the hit because you don't know which one is going to be the hit. And in 2000, whatever year I got signed, who knew that streaming would come into play? But if you own some shit,

it don't really matter what comes into play. It don't matter what it turned into, because it's mine. I'm here. No matter where it goes, no matter what happens. There's too many of us out there. I didn't think of it that way. There's too many of us out there

that cannot broker for our own talent. us out there I didn't think of it there's too many of us out there that cannot broker for our own talent you can't even speak for your own talent you can't negotiate for it you can't you can't you can't do nothing for you can you don't even attach the value to your own shit you don't own your own shit people have to go through agents why do you think that is labels because we sign the rights away i think prior to even putting your name on a piece of paper or putting your signature on a piece of paper i think it's one the doubt and then two the yo this is how it's always been so this is the normal course yeah right so you don't want to step off the path it's the normal course this is

what the normal course is so you think that's the only way to do business especially as a younger person you think that's the only way well that's ignorance comes in yeah like yo before you even sign your rights away you just think that this is customary to what the route is okay but i speak i speak more to it today again like when uh when uh the act conversation was brought up and and i raised the point that hey back then they didn't have all of the information and the money and the resources to kind of dig themselves out of this the way that some of the artists today do so what is y'all's excuse today like today niggas got all of the information in the world, so when I speak to, oh, you making a conscious choice today,

it's because back then in the 90s, it was back to the glamorization and predatory behaviors of the music industry. We gonna target these kids, that's gonna look at these videos, see this jewelry, see this money. You never really heard any of the horror, horror stories from people that were your

age that look like you that sounded like you that made what you made today if you're doing it you want to do it yeah there's no other reason i disagree still nah because today we got the horror stories for them same people that signed them deals and the ones that signed in the deals today still and we all vocal. Everybody's vocal today. So, I mean, I guess if you're missing it, you choose to be blind.

Yeah, I was going to say. You choose to be blind. I think it's just more so what the conditions are to say. But the ignorance, now it's, you can't say you didn't know. Oh, yeah, that's true. That's all.

I agree with that. So now it's like, back then you didn't know. That's true. You didn't know. I agree. Now it's like, whether conditions are the same,

whether I'm desperate, like, yeah, I know when I'm giving up You didn't know. I agree. Now it's like, whether conditions are the same, whether I'm desperate, like, yeah, I know when I'm giving up, but you know what? I'm going to take it anyway because I need it. And I might be able to buy myself out of it later on or rectify it later. It's true.

But now you just can't use the excuse of, yo, I didn't know I was giving this up and it could have been worth that. Fam, Sugar Hill Gang in 1979, 1980, they might not have known a lawyer. Fuck had a lawyer,

they might not have known a lawyer. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's where some of these people was coming from. For sure. They might not have

known a lawyer in their family. Like, nobody knew a lawyer. I'm going to be sensitive to this because my family is close to their family. Not,

dog, I'm not, dog, that's true though. I'm not dissing them. I'm just saying be sensitive to this because my family is close to their family. No, dog. That's true, though. I'm not dissing them. I'm just saying the state of where we were in urban America back then, motherfuckers didn't know a lawyer

and could go give a lawyer some money. You doing this shit as a hobby. Somebody might have came and gave you $10,000. You never even saw business in this. It's like, huh? That goes back to LL's point of niggas didn't have management. Niggas didn't have accountants or attorneys or anybody. It wasn't a thing.

Yeah, it was just you. It wasn't a thing. We playing on a fucking hip hop. A hip it to the hip. You know what I'm saying? You joking. And it caught fire. Okay.

So that's my thing. All right, get it back to center court. Jump ball. You got it. Jump ball. That's my thing. All right, get it back to center court. Jump ball. You got it. Jump ball. That's your job. Ref. Oh, man.

Keep it in rap. Did y'all see the URL battles this weekend? Absolutely. Some of them. Some of them. Let's not get there yet. Okay. Okay.

Let's not get there yet. We could actually Stay right here What do we think about The rap union Thing that they're working on All the old heads Got together and

I'm gonna fight them For what You know we've covered this here No but they got it A little more We just touched on it But it's cool Nevermind

No if something else Came out tell me that. I don't know. There's more? Go ahead, pardon me. You cut that up. It's cool. Is there more for real?

No, I mean, now more motherfuckers is talking about it. They talking about taking it deeper into health insurance, death benefits, outside of like a pension type of program that they trying to somehow set up. So somebody asked me and had a conversation with me about, do you think that us as the JVP should be paying into that pension? Like, or any avenue that kind of directly got us.

Into that you said? I'm not the JVP. Listen, my kids got to eat too. Nah, I'm not the JVP. Oh, that's what you said. Yo, my name ain't Joe Button. That's totally'm not the J.B. Oh, that's what you said. Yo, my name ain't Joe Budden. That's totally up to him, that decision. Antoine.

Got it. Piece of shit. You see how I looked at you when you said that? And to answer that, listen, we can get right to the point. If ever there is that fund created, Joe is participating in that. Yeah, you stand for that. If ever that comes to be, and if it don't come to be,

if y'all can call me and trying to get it to be. I've only been trying to be a funnel for this shit for ages, but I'm always paying to that. I'm paying to that. I'm always paying to that. Yeah, I'm still active in hip hop.

I'm paying to it. Oh, you know all the shit that come out of my check a month? Word. You know how much shit comes out of my check a month that I disagree with know how much shit comes out of my check a month that I disagree with? Put something there

that I can agree with. That's true. Yeah. The fuck are y'all talking about? Shit. Yo, dog. That'd be the worst thing to do to just go,

let me not start because then the fans will start talking about accounting again. That's shit. Yo, dog. You can't get 1% of your swanky? What happened? Would Ice, officially Ice, that's made a career off of hip-hop via the internet or via Today at the Joe Budden podcast, will Ice contribute to the Rap Union Hip-Hop Fund?

Yeah. Oh, okay. Now, how much he contributes is probably a different question, right? I would contribute-ish. Financially? Yeah. Oh, okay. Now, how much you contribute is probably a different question, right? I would contribute financially. Yeah. Why you keep making the same one? Yeah, what's up with this dude, though? Yeah, you niggas. Yeah, go ahead. I didn't say you niggas. No, you was, uh-huh.

I'm still saying, uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Rob O'Neal got me rethinking my stance when I go to cash out at the supermarket and they ask me if I want to give $10 or something to the- What'd he say? Just his whole story.

It's like, I know y'all getting fucked, but I know we need some fucking, we need something. Somebody needs this money. The fucked up part with that, you never know where it's going. It ain't going to him after speaking to him. And that's why I don't do it. And that's the problem. That's why I don't do it. That's the problem.

That's why I don't do it. Because it ain't going to him after speaking to him. And that's why I don't do it. And that's the problem. That's why I don't do it. That's the problem. That's why I don't do it. Because it ain't going to him. If it was going to him, and the good men and women who fucking go out there and do the shit, or the people behind the scenes, the people in the air traffic,

all of y'all. Please, by all means. But me just giving it to the fucking America Incorporated Fund. There you go. And the CEO made it. America fucking America Incorporated Fund. There you go. And the CEO made it. America Fund Me.

Go Fund Me. Christmas bonus. America Fund Me. They said Queen Elizabeth owns 13% of Earth, the planet Earth. That's fucking crazy. I know we ran off some stats here the other part. That's ridiculous. 13% of Earth

not donating a shit. You kidding me? How does somebody even do that? Like, yo, fam. It's a lot of pillaging. Word. It's a lot of pillaging.

Professional pillagers. No, decades of it. Centuries. Centuries. I'm saying eons. She was in power for what? 70 years? Yeah, 70.

Yeah, but she... She inherited some shit. Yeah, but her demandum. Demandum. Demandum. Breath. They've been at it. Breath fell right in her lap.

They've been in it. That's crazy. She ran with it. Then I was looking at some list of the world's richest families from 10 to number one, one being the royals of Saudi Arabia, 10 was probably Queen Elizabeth of Namibia, she was somewhere up there. But they was all up.

The Saudis is up a trillion, or a few trillions. But everybody was this amount of billions, 500 billions. And it was a lot. And I was like, it really got me to thinking more about here in America and just a lot that I won't get into on the podcast. Okay. Moving on. Oh, here we go. This is why I told Ice to chill on the battle rap talk, because I thought that this was

appropriate in what we were talking about with rap and just monies and blah blah blah blah blah oh and sorry Ice I'm back to playing a beef record I never had this is a diss record sir I'm running with this I'm just running with oh okay this is Pusha T dissing McDonald's again. Oh, he's back. He's back. Yeah. Pusha T is dissing McDonald's again. It's up. Not only is it again, it's hard.

Pause again. And I'm totally with this beef never dying. It's time to do damage. When the quality ain't up to my standards. That McRib falls below average. Replaced by the country-style obvious rip sandwich straight up the smokehouse Texas my own route eight hours to slow cook she's pushed for the rule out the boss with the smoky cute sauce get lost this doesn't compare to that replica rib patty. I'm screaming, how dare you?

You know that I'm war ready. Arby's taking taste to the next level. Arby's is the choice we won't settle. McDonald's, what you selling? Mystery meat? Pop up and go away. What does history teach? Mickey D's, McRib, you ain't it in the streets. The real country style rib sandwich here that you eat. Look, straight out the smokehouse. Country style Arby's rib sandwich, what you know about? We comin' straight out the smokehouse. Make rib, you just look like a clown, and that's with no doubt. Shout out to Pusha. Shout out to Arby's.

Oh, yo, you could rap. You could just rap. You could just rap. Yeah. Because that gets like into a weird territory where it's like we're advertising for Arby's kind of, but it's Pusha. That's the point of it. I mean, we're going to play it.

You're going to check for Arby's. Yeah. But why is that weird territory, though? Because we're on a podcast for a million people and we're playing an Arby's commercial, but it's Pusha, so we're going to play it. Oh, but that's why they're paying. I'll just go with it. That's the point.

I know. Park Sand ain't not paying you. That's okay. Right. See, that's okay. You got to. Oh, man, this could get into such a great conversation. Let's go.

But that's why you support your brother. Like, for enterprise value. Pusha T, who wrote or co-wrote the McDonald's jingle, didn't get his fair share from that, was fortunate enough to sign or do a deal with another fast food chain who's down with not only this and the competition, who's down with not only dissing the competition,

but they don't care nothing about all of your rhymes being littered with drug stories and cocaine stories and paraphernalia. They don't care nothing about what your public, what your image is. Or the image of diss records, period. Back to the argument that we had in the last couple pods they really let them go right

yeah and when you do that you hope to gain the people like me and like whoever this attracts whoever's down with

this culture whoever understands this branding and I support that and I gotta support that I wanna take this

moment real quick to shout my brother arse out he has a similar situation with boost mobile now oh wow doing their uh jingle for them that's what's up see that's hard it's ours see that's hard see now i'm with this we need more stories from all of you rappers i'm not talking about push but the majority of you rappers about how none of y'all are making any way the money that y'all should be making from rap music. I think that's the way to come. I know. But if they were more vocal in it, if they verbalized it a little more, I think it would condition differently to those coming up and those being inspired. And the sole focus wouldn't be music,

live and die for this, give it all for this, get fucked for this. Akon on the internet saying that rappers should get jobs. And while he has his own version of why he's saying that, it's rooted in the same premise. Nobody's making money off of the music. So if you're lucky enough to be Push to be meg to be anybody that's getting these branding deals and just getting outside of this music bag and use your music bag for some

sneaker money or some allowance for your kids or just whatever the fuck is for then awesome but we got to start teaching different do you think that's alignment? And the writing be on the wall. Think that's alignment? Which part? Like, when you say Push and Meg, they on two totally different sides of the spectrum. No, I'm talking about in branding or in marketability.

Like, Push is kind of a borderline underground rap, hardcore rap artist. Meg is over here to me. But Push done got da-da-da-da-da. That's Push. Right. So I think that when you align yourself with proper management or proper representation, you can get in those rooms.

I don't know if these young dudes know that or have the people that could get them in the rooms. Like a Steve Stout could get you in a room where you're doing Madison Square Garden 10-year deal you know I'm saying like all of that stuff I think you got to align yourself with the movers and the shakers to do that no I'm asking that's a question I think a lot of them are realizing that today the younger ones because you do see younger artists coming in here and you know I look at Chance the Rapper and Yachty getting Sprite deals, and you see a lot more of it from artists that are coming right in.

I ain't gonna say coming right in the game, but early on in their careers. Saweetie, who I don't even think she dropped a debut album. She had to drop out. Yeah, it's been an EP and a couple records. And got some branding deals. But the marketability in her is, hey, man, fuck that music.

We can get these Crocs. Yeah. Get this McDonald's. Get this. Get this. You look at a Travis Scott who he has dropped out. But I'm just saying, the branding potential in these people early, these are young kids still.

So the branding potential in them is, yo, oh man we can go get some money over here and that's showing a lot of newer acts and that's why i say the music suffers because a lot of the newer acts are coming in here like yo let me just get hot real quick so i can go over here and bounce and get some money i'm not really trying nobody not nobody but they're not coming in the game to say, I want to be a legend in rap or hip hop. I want to be the greatest ever. A lot of that shifted. Now it's I'm getting in here so I can get over there. It's just a stepping stone.

And because of that, the quality of the music suffers because this ain't my passion. He's right. This ain't my heart. I just want to get hot enough To where I can go get a deal I can get a show I can go land somewhere That's gonna set me up Niggas wanna get these

Like you look at Luda In the Fast and Furious You No let me get one of those Fuck rap I agree with him I remember David Banner Years ago said

Man this rap money is okay But you need to see These movie checks Karrueche Like it's a lot of people That you can see Niggas is getting into rap to get out of rap. And the faster they can do it, the better for them.

And you're right. Good representation will help you do that. Exactly. Being aligned with the right business partners will get you there faster. There's always somebody to market to. The good representation is going to figure that out. Like Arby's, yo. It's a country-ass, Midwest brand. Let him really just go.

We need another jump ball. But, I mean, what you just said, a country-ass Midwest based on Virginia. Plus, you imagine as a musician doing all this shit

to, you know, spend millions, hundreds of thousands of dollars on chains and clothes and all that shit to not get it back. You know what I'm saying? Because the clothes and the imagery

goes with being a successful rapper in the public perception. Getting in fights, people are dying over chains, all that shit to not do it. All of that for y'all to not even have it insured or be able to write it off in your taxes. If it's so much to a business necessity.

But anyway, come on, jump ball. That's it. Come on, please. Jump ball. Talk to jump ball. Please. Please, serious guys. Serious George, a serious little monkey.

This nigga took- Felt racist. This nigga took curious. Felt racist. This nigga took curious. He got remixed. Was curious George racist? I'll do that. Think about it. What was racist about curious George?

I don't make me mad. Monkey just trying to figure out life, man. White man holding him back. Come on, man. Yo, what is Arthur Who's the center on this team It's one of y'all's jump ball Y'all let Ross slide on the domiciles

Y'all let Ross slide You said the internet was tearing him up Alright well y'all ain't joining I ain't know until just now You said something No him up. Alright, well y'all ain't joining in. I ain't know until just now. I don't. You said something? No. Oh. I didn't say that. I had the same thought.

I was like, damn, I'm shaking his arm. What the fuck are you talking about? I just knew not to tweet it. Or say it out loud. Oh, fuck! You got me! Who makes those? In your brain, you was like, who makes those? No, in my brain, I got to the actor killing the role and set design and casting,

whoever was in charge of the outfits and the old cars and making this fit the scene. They did a phenomenal job. That's how I got to the glasses. I was like, damn, they covered it to down to every detail in this. And I'm not going to hold you, yo.

Didn't look like the most expensive show to shoot. Because of course, as I'm watching, I'm counting the people in every scene. I'm counting the scenes,

the locations. It wasn't but a bar, an apartment building, grandma and dad house. It wasn't but a bar, an apartment building, grandma and dad house. It was about six spots. They got this done, but not very much.

And look at all the fucking shockwave that it sends out there. Oh yeah, they happy. The more you keep picking it up, all I'm seeing is more and more Emmys. Yeah. They got the grainy 90s look. Yep.

They killed it. They killed it. It's great. It's the show that you don't cancel Netflix. Netflix, yum. I'm telling you. They've been on the ropes for a minute, but they keep fighting back.

They keep dodging. I don't think they're fighting back. They keep going lower and lower. How are they fighting back? Everybody else keeps going lower and lower. How are they fighting back? Everybody else keeps going up and up. I'm saying for me, me personally as a subscriber, I've been talking about canceling for a minute, but they always throw one little thing in there

and you're like, god damn it. That's because you're not about it. Damn, I can't cancel now. But you're not about it about it. See, even when he said that, it only takes one show to keep him on the hook. And that's what I mean about they're not fighting back. They're only putting out a good one new show every here and there.

But if that's all I need, just to... You're getting your ass kicked out there. You better fight back. At what point do you fight back? They need to fight back harder, for sure. They're not landing a punch on HBO. It's only but so many Chinese, Korean, and British overdub murder mystery shits y'all could keep

shoving down my American TV. Yeah. You can't. It looks like you're going the cheap bullshit route to try to fix some shit and it's not working because you saw success with fucking Squid Games or whatever your numbers are showing you. It ain't working. Let me tell you something.

Them other apps, they kicking ass. That's a fact. Every one of them got something on there for me to watch. Peacock. Like, frequently. Yeah. I don't even check regular TV no more. Regular cable.

Hulu always got something. I don't even use that. Actually, cable might lose the fight for me before fucking cable. I just got it there just to

have it. I'll be watching fucking Stephen A. Smith, which I can watch on the app. But anyway,

come on, off of that, jump ball. Why do y'all keep putting me at the top center of the court?

They crashed the camera into the asteroid, man. What? Oh my God. What studio they did this in?

That's what I was going to ask. That's why Tyler Perry getting all that money. They did it right at Tyler Perry Studios. This nigga said they sent up a satellite

to hit an asteroid to knock it off course. How long ago? Yesterday. Yesterday. Over the weekend. Wait, this just happened. They launched a rocket at the asteroid with a little camera on it.

Water's ball. Oh, yeah. Aaron Judge can't get 61. They hit the moving asteroid, allegedly, fam, with a satellite. Oh, we saw it on camera. I know. Man, they did that shit to the moon a couple years ago, allegedly. They bombed the moon.

They sent some shit to crash directly into the moon ago, allegedly. They bombed the moon. They sent some shit to crash directly into the moon. That ass. They just doing whatever. I ain't peeped that one. No, they didn't. I don't care about these lies.

What do you want me to say? I don't care about these lies. Look, look, look. Let me tell you, this is all it is. Yo, we need to, if we tell them we doing this.

Don't give us a little more funding. That's it. Get that budget right. That's it. Get that budget right. That's it. That's what I heard they're doing with the fentanyl pills that they said that look like candy. You seen that report? There's like colorful Fenty pills and they're like, oh, they're going to put it in the kids Halloween food.

But then they just got another $200 million for the DEA or whatever the fuck it is. For drug prevention. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it, got it. It's the same scheme. That's all it is. Same scheme. If we just pitch this to you. We. Got it, got it. It's the same scheme. That's all it is. Same scheme. If we just pitch this to you.

We can get some more money. We can get some more bread. They got some nice land in Ghana. What's going on over there? You niggas is out of here. What the fuck are you doing? Yo, what is we talking about, yo? Fenty pills that look like candy.

You know, every couple years they do that shit with Halloween roll around. Every couple years. Yeah. They come out with a scare. Like people are just going to give away free drugs. Yeah, you let Lex do Halloween?

You know where I get to skip the Halloween answer to that question? Going door to door to strangers' houses to collect candy I was able to use. It's like, dog, what are we doing? We're not doing that. Now, I couldn't protect against putting on a costume, so costumes still happen. And what a lot of people do is they go to businesses. Like, they'll skip their houses and steal a stranger's candy.

It's still, it's still, it's still, but it's... I think that's one of the sickest traditions out there. It's really going door to door to strangers front steps for food with your kid, your most prized pride and joy. And saying, give me some candy and then let my kid eat that. And then hold on. The things America teach you For capitalism Give me some candy And then turn around

And tell the kids Don't take candy from a stranger Right Think about that I didn't even think about that Like we wasn't the richest Growing up Think about that

But once I understood How much a Tootsie Roll costs I wasn't very old before I was looking like, yo, we can't go buy this stuff. And I gotta wait to this day to get it? Yeah, like,

I can eat this shit whenever the fuck I feel like. Here we go to the store. Y'all put the store with all the shit that'll kill us on every corner. Why I gotta go to other people's houses

and get it? All right, jump ball. Too serious. Jump ball. Yo, I'll jump this ball. All right, so ball. Too serious. Jump ball. I'll jump this ball. All right, so what else we got? What else we got? No more, nothing else serious for the rest of the pod

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No, it's a website. It's a website. No, but if you go there and you purchase whatever content is there, it's yours. That's what I was asking. Yeah, but you have to purchase it. So the monthly subscription just lets you see this shit?

You can't purchase nothing. Yeah, maybe. They might be charging you to see what's there. You got to subscribe to get on the real estate. Okay. Now, they might put a bullshit Instagram picture, or they might put something where they're fucking their fiance, and you have to pay for this.

So let's just say hypothetically you pay $6.99 for just the sub. Right? Then it's a separate price for all the content? Depends on the person. Depending on the content and if they want to lock it or pay-per-view it. Please don't kill us. I cannot wait for Patreon to do this.

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could finally just talk freely to a group of people and yeah you have to pay for this yeah you gotta take you have you have to take karate though it still ain't that though you couldn't I know you it can be bootlegged because that's that's that's like a uh a false um sense of security yeah like a lot of people had like oh it's behind the paywall or oh that you know it's pay-per-view so it's not going to get out well they feel a little bit more comfortable saying they're doing things that they think is not the premium is to is to lessen your like said, with the price of admission at the door. So yeah, we're going to paywall this particular piece of content, mine and Isha's argument,

and you're going to pay whatever the number is, $300 for this. Now, of course, somebody will pay for it, leak it, bootleg it, and you'll deal with all of that. But it's a certain group that's coming here to pay for this content and for that you'll freely give it to them I agree with that I'm just saying

the security part of they gonna be the only ones to see it oh no there are people that no you know I'm speaking to those

who may partake in this it's still once you upload it to the internet you have to act as if the entire internet will be able to see it.

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We're just coming around talking to niggers. I'm sorry, dude. Neighbors. I apologize, man. What? No, man. That wasn't even... That's crazy. That's crazy Yo A little convo Hey man

I'm with Solar Pad Orangey Group man We just Coming by talking To a few niggas about Seeing how you I mean God damn

Neighbor Yo my bad Big bro Yo big bro yo big bro yo one too many yo big bro my fault

that's my fault about that not niggas not niggas neighbors you see how it's the words come on

you see how it can happen right yo what do you do yo oh my god what do you do yo

that's the real life South Park episode, bro. I don't know about that, but yo. I know you talking about the Wheel of Fortune one. The Wheel of Fortune shit. Yo. I'm sicking the dogs on them, yo. Nah, nah.

I'm sicking the lawyers on them. I'm not sicking nobody. I'm suing. You ain't gonna come to my door and call me a nigger. You got to do that at your house. Put the dogs off. You can't do it at my house. I'm not doing no harm to you.

Yo, they got different solar. You know y'all from Africa, so. You know, we that at your house. Put the dogs. You can't do it at my house. I'm not doing no harm to you. Yo, they got different solar. You know y'all from Africa, so. You know, we sell. Should I sell you the premium package? You like this, son. We give you the premium package. The melanin-induced solar. What the fuck?

Ice, tell me why 21 Savage is never doing Rolling Loud again. Because he's smart. Shit. That's why. Oh. Is that it? What we've been saying. I don't know what happened. Because he's smart. Shit. That's why. Oh. Is that it? What we've been saying. I don't know what happened.

I don't know what happened, but 21 Savage is a pretty smart individual, and I'm assuming that we've all been sitting here saying, yo, why you niggas keep going to Rolling Loud? That was one of my favorite rumors when they made 21 Savage British. No, that wasn't a rumor. He's British. Yes. Yo, stop.

It's not a rumor, dog. Wait, for real. Hey, that wasn't a rumor. He's British. Yes. Yo, stop. It's not a rumor, dog. Hey, yo, stop. Yes. I'm new here. And I know that. How y'all know? How y'all know he British? I hate hip hop. How do y'all know? How do people claim to know these things? I want to hear.

Dog, they started, they was about to deport him. For the charge. Alright, I'm done talking to y these things. I want to hear it. Dog, they started, they was about to deport them. You facing deportation for the charge. All right, I'm done talking to y'all. No, I remember that though. I remember that. What?

Yeah, I remember that. How long has 21 Savage lived in Atlanta? I think most of his life he was born. He wasn't born here though. Who cares? My pops lived in New York

slash New Jersey for 40 years. Yeah, yeah, you heard. I just told issues from Virginia. He fought me. He spent a few summers over there. His country ass. He didn't want to be country. Singh said, yo,

you're from Virginia. I said, yo, I lived in New Jersey for 40 years. But you're 46. I know. I ain't live in Virginia, the other six. Where'd you live? D.C. Stop it, Ish. Stop it. Got you.

Just because they... They just kicked them out the Virginia house. They kicked them out the Virginia house. Get your little badass over there. You just mad you from South Carolina. Why would I be mad? I love South Carolina. I love South Carolina.

You shitting me? Sumter. Sumter. Hey, my Colombian nights. Hey, they don't ask about me over there. Hunter. Hey. My Colombian nights. Hey. There's no ask about me over there. Over there. Mykonos.

Wherever you want to go with it. Larenburg. Hell yeah. Fam, you and Charlamagne was down there playing. Big Piggly Wiggly. I was about to say you and Charlamagne down there playing. Big Piggly Wiggly energy. was about to say you and Sean were down there playing Big Piggly Wiggly energy. You know what the fuck is going on.

Country bumpkin. Hey, say what you want. Big Golden Corral. You see what them country niggas just did with the Yemare. Yeah. Don't leave them

country niggas alone. Why? Just move along. But it's cool. Yeah. I'm rapping right now. I don't know what y'all talking about.

You rapping something? Yeah, you fucking right. You got it, Playboy. Button Street, nigga. It's out there. Get the fuck. What? Hello?

You got a Button Street out there? Oh, that was the old cast I told that to. Y'all don't even know that there's a Button Street in Sumter, South Carolina. Yes, there's a Button Street out there. What did your family do? Fact checking. I'm about to pull this Android smooth out and look for Button Street. What did y'all families do?

We ain't got no streets. I'm about to find out, though. You about to call pop on me. Yo, you don't got to call pop, yo. You don't have to call pop, Joe. No, because y'all playing on the button name. That's all it is. Now y'all playing on the button name, man.

You don't have to call pop. No, no. I forgot that was the old cat. Different podcast. I got it. Hold up. Hold up, man. Then you can have to call. No, no. I forgot that was the old cat. Different podcast. I got it. Hold up. Hold up, man. Then you can tell me what the did.

Hey, Alex. That's TSK ABC. Everybody. Hello. Pop. What's today? What's today Yeah yeah

Listen it's one of those calls I'm over here repping for Sumter South Carolina And I let Ish and Ice Well Parks already knew I let Ish and Ice know That there was a button street in Sumter South Carolina And now they both Sitting here googling and laughing and making little jokes.

So I just figured I'd get you on the horn. Yeah, there's a button street. I'm not 100% that they spelled it correctly. Well, it ain't representing your order. No, they about to put an S. No, they about to put an S on the end of the street. But no, it's there. It's on the property that they stole from us.

Man, I see Button Street in Australia, Pop. Ain't nobody find no Button Street in Sumter. There's a Button Street right behind Sumter High. Yeah, it's not a school. It's just there. They stole it from them. And as a gesture, you know, as they was kicking him out,

they just, man, it's B-U-D-D-I-N Street. That ain't y'all, man. I just found it. I'm not doing this with these guys. That's Budden Street. No, no. But I'll handle these guys. You go ahead. I'll call you later. Okie doke, man. Yo. Yo. Yo. That's a spaghetti

coming, man. Alright, now you talking. You sound like you're on a ventilator. I'm trying to let some spaghetti coming, man. All right. Now you talking. Now you talking. You sound like you're on a ventilator. I'm trying to let you. Like, what the fuck is going on over there? I was asleep, man. I was asleep. Oh, god damn.

I was asleep. I was asleep, man. Peace out, Pop. Go, Pop. Go back to sleep, man. All right. Well, go ahead and get some rest. All right.

Talk to you all later, man. Peace out. God damn. Nigga, that ain't y'all. God damn. That ain't y'all, son. I'm about to end the pod I'm gonna check on my dad He ain't sounding the greatest Oh man

Anyway Get that out of here man Y'all ain't claiming that I know I know Anyways It's the bud industry Shout out

Shout out It's true It's there and it's true. He could probably get them to do that for you over there, over in JC. What? Name a little street after you. That nigga ain't donated near a dollar to that town. How do you know that?

Uh-oh. How would you know that? Pocket watch, nigga? How would you know where I donate money to every month? You would have told me, I think. Why would I have told you that? You don't even invite me to the fucking club when you and Ice go to the little mixies. Why the fuck would I tell you some shit?

That's my mom that call you for advice. Nigga, I don't call you for shit. Unfortunately. Yeah, you better start. Come on, what else y'all got? Come on, Jumbo. Going back to the ring, I've read that it was Udoka. That's how he got found out, was from a ring conversation. I thought that's what you were going to the ring, I read that it was Udoka. That's how we got found out was from a ring conversation.

I thought that's what you were going to play. I don't think it's leaked yet. But I wasn't sure if you had a little. They're saying it's a white girl, dude. Uh-oh. No, they say. I said that. Fam, they saying it's half a football team.

A lot of girls? Yes. What? In the Boston organization? Son, they said he was wild. He was running through them. They told him, yo, chill. He's handsome. I know. And I just took him to the finals. Fam, they said they told him that. I ain't tearing something down before the

finals. That might be how he was. Playoffs. Preseason. Warm-ups. Yo, fam, no disrespect. We got years of looking at Brad Stevens and Danny Ainge running around here. You don't think they was serious? You don't think them weren't good?

All right, see, now I got to make it serious. Them Cape Verdeans. Now I got to make it serious. Y'all did it. Y'all made me make it serious now. And I told y'all, as a people, if y'all want us to stop bringing race into everything, then pay us and we'll stop doing it. But until then, all of this shit is applicable. So, sorry.

Y'all got to deal with this. Here we go. Let's fucking do it. I'm dying in the way. don't know why he's like that oh come on man you know us female privilege is at it again how can you lynch the brother and protect the

snow bunny was she a victim here isn't this the same old slave plantation narrative of the innocent slave master's wife being molested by the sexually uncontrolled black monster? When the truth of the matter is that she's just as culpable as he is. In fact, I'm of the opinion that the husband used his wife to destroy the self-confident first year up-and-coming black woman. first year up and coming left. Snow Bunny has always been used to do the bidding of the white power structures never

ending war against African alpha males. Everyone knows just how racist the Celtics organization was then is. Additionally, Brad Stevens was jealous Yudoka did in one year what he couldn't do in several. Yudoka was wrong cheating on his wife at all, and definitely not with a snow bunny. Nonetheless, this was an inside job. Hey, black men don't cheat, so I'm with that. Listen.

Hey, buddy. I'm with that. They set him up. They set him up. They went crazy. Is to that you say what? Was that a white girl? I don't know, but they convinced me.

I'm going to keep it a buck with you. Whoever leaked that shit need to get a penalty. Whoever leaked the information need to get a penalty. They said it was the chick's husband that leaked all the information. Hayden. Hayden. So, yo, you did something detrimental to the team. Yo, you hear us.

Conduct detrimental to the team. That's conduct detrimental to the team. We keep that in the house. You don't let that out. You might fuck around and miss the playoffs, and I'll fuck around with you. You get what I'm saying? Like, I'm keeping the buck with you. That was handled horribly.

That's pride and ego. Yo, fam, your wife was not a victim. He blew the whole shit up. Your wife was not a victim. She was a volunteer. He said, guess what? And if it is consensual sex, I don't see why he should only be penalized. Especially if she was an employee.

You know what, man? I'm with you now. You convinced me, yo. I'm a panda with you. I'm a'm with you now you convinced me yo i'm i'm i'm a panda with you i'm a panda with you yo this gentleman is 34 years old we have seen the recent uprise of these very young nfl and nba this is the maybe the first taste for the NBA. The NFL has adopted this sooner. We've seen the uptick in young 33, 34-year-old coaches

having success. Having success. Because of that, it forces y'all to adopt some of this shit. When you adopt it, you got to adopt all of it. At 34, I was swaggy my dick was jumping when the wind went by

and at 34 I was doing a lot of shows in Boston I understand how Boston could get tricky a little bit they be fine out there in the town closed at a certain time.

That's facts. Hey, Boston, it's a lot of the athletes. I've been to a few of the mansion parties out there. Yeah, yeah. I seen through it

with my own eyes. So all I'm saying is now you got a young fly, handsome nigga who's bringing a different type of attention to the team. True.

And they're winning. My wife is courtside. My fiance is courtside. She's of that ilk. I'm of that ilk. It's different now. You're going to have to maybe deal with a cheating scandal.

A little bit of fucking. Just a little fucking. And we know women. We sound like such misogynist assholes. Yo, we know women. Well, you wouldn't. Sure wouldn't. You wouldn't.

Yo, dog. Women want what the other fly chick got. So they looking at Neil like, oh, word? He got that? Let me on over there and sample them collard greens. Listen, a lot of late nights in the facility. Yeah. Which facility?

Running back to tape. That's all. Yeah. You know what the tape do. Yeah. I'm just saying that they should have a little more understanding. They might have. They put it out. They put it out. The only reason I'm

standing on this is because they put it out. They put it out. That's what he was just saying. You said the person who leaked it, they should be reprimanded. Yeah, that motherfucker was hurt, man. Yeah, and listen, let's get to the real shit Our niggas act Which is as a husband

Why you wasn't handling your hand Uh huh You know what I mean So MAU doker couldn't come take your Hey if he took her That wasn't your wife She wanted to go Hey if he took her

That wasn't your girl True How about that Amen Wow I'm standing by that All day long And if she don't get fired True. How about that? Amen. Wow. I'm standing by that all day long. And if she don't get fired or suspended. I know, because you normally do the taking.

You be taking these niggas, girl. You've got to stand by it. Your whole life existence would fall under forensic viewing. Just pardon. Yep, yep, yep. Yeah, I'm pardoned. But no, I'm piding away. But no, I just think that if there's no punishment

passed down to the chick, that's going to be crazy. He got a lawsuit. But they spun it, though, and made him look like the angry black dude sending some nasty text messages. Now you're all lowering my salary. All of it. All of it. No, you're not.

No, you're not. Yes, you're not. No, you're not. I thought we would have been got the tea by now. The deets. It's coming. Yeah. It's coming, slowly but surely.

It'll come out. Yeah. I hope he fired it a little bit. Leave. Say fuck them niggas. Can't. Why? His contract says he can't.

See how that work? Yes. You're wrong here like you was wrong here. There's language in this contract. It's a joke, yo, but. But I'm talking,

but back to serious. There's language in this contract somewhere that say, probably for the Celtics, in the Celtics advantage. If you fuck all our women, you have to go.

Every contract has that code of conduct, some shit in there. If you do this, if you do that, if you do this, you got to get out Every contract has their code of conduct, some shit in there. If you do this, if you do that, if you do this, you got to get out of here. Some 6'9 African nigga just around here slaying the whites. Yeah, just him and Adam Levine. Yo, you got to go. You got to go.

Why they been on Adam Levine ass still? He got to go. This poor guy was just horny on a late night in the DMs. They're making him out to be some sort of monster. Adam Levine was bugging me. I ain't shoot him no bell. Adam Levine was bugging. I'm going to shoot my man.

Who made some bell? You know what I mean? That's funny, though. Dog, I heard about. We need to wake it up on Brett Favre still. That's facts, though. That's nuts. That's my, though. That's nice. That's my point.

It just got swept right under the plate. Brett Favre, Shakira, all of them. Get them all. I ain't knocking Shakira, Joe. She said she ain't do it, I know. I still ain't knocking her if she did it. On brand. Hips don't lie.

On brand. Nah, it ain't even that. Or lack of hips don't lie for him. Lack of hips. Being hipless don't lie. That's funny. Come on. That's hard.

Come on. Oh, come on, you guys. That was a good one. Oh, but all right. What else? What else? What else? What else?

All right, so we don't know why 21 Savage is not doing Rolling Loud ever again. We didn't hear any stories out of Rolling Loud, really. Did we? No. Ain't nobody go to jail. That's good. Yeah, it's a good thing. That's where I was going with it.

That's because New York kept all the niggas off of it anyway. YPD said, no, y'all not performing. Oh, for real? Yeah. They hated on all the- All the New York drill rappers. They said, nope, Riker's already full enough, nigga. They told Rolling Loud, pull them all off.

Oh, shit. And then Rolling Loud, of course, complies because they're like, hey, man, we still want to do business with y'all. So we're in the city. So yeah, we'll comply. Shit. I didn't know that. I didn't know that either.

They kicked a couple of 22 G's. I forget. It was about four names, four or five. That they said could not. NYPD contacted Rolling Loud and said yo these right here can't perform and Rolling Loud said okay

I'm not mad at anybody in this but I hate this entire story I'm mad at somebody I hate the fact that the town has enough power to do that

if these people didn't break any laws or are not necessarily you know, under any indictments or have any warrants or anything for their arrest? From a business standpoint? No. What do you do?

I'm talking about the town. Oh, if I'm rolling out, I say yes. Okay. I comply if I'm rolling out. Like, I don't even know if. But wait, but wait, but if you're the police. Oh, my God. Don't make me argue on defense of the police, please.

No, I'm just saying, like, yo, what tends to happen is we lose our rights with certain shit, and then other people have their rights. Like, we sitting around fighting for gun reform. After motherfuckers is getting their face shot off or schools are getting shot up, we arguing for gun reform. But you can now say. Who passed them the ball? You start talking about it.

It's cool. Never mind. You just take everything to the most serious. I didn't. We're fighting for gun reform now. Bruh. Help me out. I was making an example. Give it to me.

On one end, somebody could argue gun reform after all these tragedies. Yeah. And there's a whole group of people that say no. These four rappers, these young kids, whatever their content may be, now just didn't get a check because somebody said, nah, I don't want them on here. You don't see the...

I do. You're going to make me argue. I'm trying not to. Yeah, I'm trying to. And I'm trying to not, but like... I'm not going to put it, let's just say in general. I'm going to. And I'm trying to not. But like, I'm not going to put it, let's just say in general. I'm going to generally speak. If we've been dealing with issues from certain camps,

or we might know, we might have more information than Roland Loud knows. So if this group is there and that group is there, there's a potential for some shit to happen. That makes sense. You're right. I'm wrong. So. I'm wrong.

Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. I want a police department that will attempt to be preventative. Proactive. Yeah. Y'all don't have to have charges for me to know that your people and your people shouldn't be at the venue together.

We just lost a rapper. No, you're right. I'm wrong. That makes sense. And I'd love an update. On what? His case? Anything involving the murder of Draco.

You won't get one. They're going to settle. I'm signing some documents to say that they can't get one. They're going to settle. I'm signing some documents to say that they can't disclose any information. Absolutely. Jumbo. Come on.

Y'all did it again. I don't know. Now we key all the pros. Hey, Ian, help me out, buddy. Oh, you got a suit on? Never mind.

God damn it. Are you serious, though? You niggas are... Grow down. Would you grow down? These niggas will skew up. So nothing else memorable happened at Rolling Loud that we need to take away?

I saw a lot of people complimenting Offset. He was brought out as a special guest, and he had an amazing performance, I heard. I mean, Nikki smoked it. Okay. I think she had the first night, Friday night, and absolutely killed it. But it was a very...

Low key? I don't want to say low key, but we didn't have Any How can I say it You know how it's like No news is good news Something like that Yeah I like that

Gotcha You know what I'm saying Like there was no major stories Coming out of Oh this happened That happened So And

What's been happening With Rolling Louds As we know I kind of take that as a win That's true Cause most Most of the news For like the last four or five Have been It's been something Negative shit Yeah happening with Rolling Louds as we know I kind of take that as a win that's true cause most most of the news for like the last

four or five have been negative shit yeah it's been negative shit that's true and on top of it

being in New York you know what I'm saying it's strict like yeah so I'm that's a win that's true he's definitely

gonna take it boy you niggas had the streets of New York fucked up all weekend man Jesus what a mess how much money you spent what none stay there niggas had the streets of New York fucked up all weekend, man. Jesus, what a mess.

How much money you spent? What? None. Stay there. Hanging out with these fucking, these fucking shitting me. Everywhere I went, it seemed like when I went out to smoke, Lil Uzi's fucking bulletproof little Kanye truck was following me around. The fuck are you talking about? No, I'm going to go in the house.

And everywhere it went, it just stood in the middle of the street, blocked all the traffic, had mad, big-ass security guards stand on the side of it for 30 minutes. It's like, yo, what are we doing? I got to go, yo. I'm with my girl. We out. Y'all got it.

Street's got it. That was Saturday night in Say Less. Saturday night in Say Less. It looked like fucking, yeah. Yeah, but I forgot. I forgot it's rolling loud. Niggas outside. I'm not planning around rolling loud.

I'm not going to say less on a Saturday night. No rolling loud. Yeah, no. Good. I got to Say Less and said. Say Less. Say Less. And Biden was here so

He was probably at say less too Y'all got the streets yo The streets was a mess Just fucked up I didn't spend no money I ain't going to one strip club Not one strip club Yeah that's good You should have just took on some Broadway shit or something

I didn't want to do that You do that It's cool I didn't want to do that that's you do that she might not want to do that we ain't it's cool I didn't want to do that you said call me for some advice

Common is on on Broadway in November oh yeah round of applause shout out to Common dope super dope

yeah we'll cover that in November yeah I'm sure that'll be big news what else what else

what else Summer Madness or Larsa Pippen? What Larsa Pippen did, man? Man. Please, inform him. She's more? She's Larsa Pippening. You were?

With Jordan's son. Anywhere that they could be seen. Tooting her little ass around in his pelvic area publicly. Yes. They had cat steak. They had Rolling Loud his pelvic area publicly. They have catched steak. They have rolled it loud. They over here. They over there. Anywhere where paparazzi can catch them, they are catching them and they look

all lovey-dovey. Larson Pippen, you are fucking disgusting and you need to get the fuck out of here. You like Adam 22. What? I mean, remember Auntie? At one point she had to be called Auntie. She gotta go, yo.

She gotta go. At one point she had to be called Auntie. But she need to go. Enough with Future and now this and now anybody young, popping, and rap that you could associate yourself with. Y'all laughed at me when I told y'all Kim K was white again. It was like, oh, I didn't see it.

I don't understand. Do y'all still not understand? I didn't laugh. I said, Nick, I spoke on it. Hello. Oh, shit. All right, yeah, send him up. My man.

Thanks, man. Nah, I I spoke on that Like how they have the ability to Weave in and out Yeah, like Or turn it back completely You always speak on that But when I brought up about Kim specifically

You didn't You know what I'm saying? I don't think you saw it yet But if you look now That shit is Do you see now? You're not seeing that Plain as day now, boy

I saw somebody put They had the little Like a size 4 Like a size 4 like a size four back and forth. You could definitely see Dolce and Gabbana Italy the whole shit.

I need a doc on the deterioration of Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton relationship. Seriously. You don't think come on y'all

do the other thing please. No I need an in-depth doc about it. I need to see it, see it. See what happened? Yeah, for real, for real, for real. Oh, there you go right there. Chip is here.

Uh-oh. Chip is here. There you go. Something light. Light little weekend. You know what I mean? Nigga like ain't breaking sweat all weekend. Word.

Nigga boy did all right, man. All right, Summer Madness. Come on, Summer Madness. Let's get to it. Summer Madness. Summer Madness, man. Summer Madness. Well, first off, I was wrong again.

I'm just tired of being wrong about shit, though. I was wrong, too. I was wrong, man. I was wrong about mad shit. I said Swamp was just going to die a horrible death at Summer Madness. He didn't. Quite the opposite. He didn't.

The exact opposite. Quite the opposite. He didn't. He was alive. I was just amazed to see T-Rock, as such a veteran and a legend in the game, make such rookie emotional mistakes. It fucked me up.

I'd never expect that from him. Like, you got down there, you made the comment about you eat raccoon meat. You win North Carolina battle in the South Carolina, nigga. Cool! The crowd.

He dwelled on it though. Yeah, but the crowd let him know, hey nigga, we raccoon meat too. We love that coon down here. Then he was like, oh, y'all niggas must eat that shit too. And he doubled, tripled, quadrupled down on it. To the audience. To the audience. It took him out of his shit.

He cared more about them responding to that than it seemed like the actual battle. To the point where he's on stage like, yo, I can't wait to catch one of you niggas outside. Because that's how much of a non-factor his opponent was in front of him. Yeah, but that underestimated. That's the rookie mistake. T-Rock don't make that mistake. He had just killed his opponent too much, so it was like, let me focus on y'all now. But you didn't kill him. And it was a mistake. Is he dead? Yeah, kick. You didn't make that mistake. He had just killed his opponent too much. So it was like, let me focus on y'all now. But you didn't kill him. And it was a mistake.

Is he dead? Yeah, kick. You didn't give that. Yeah, I get it. I get it. I get it. That shouldn't happen from T-Rock. T-Rock should dismantle Swamp anywhere, any day, any time.

I don't care. You could dismantle Swamp and the crowd. You still supposed to dismantle Swamp. Yes. Facts. My initial thought was, if Swamp even makes this debatable, T-Rock lost. Yeah.

I understand why you would say that. It's just... I think the crowd had him, the vote had him winning. When I saw when they gave their first recap of the vote, it was like, yo, it's 50-50. And even that to me was bullshit. That was popularity. But you know the votes continue after they announced that

and T rock won the votes but you know it would uh but watch it sugar apparently I owe an apology again I was sure no no no no no no no no it wasn't just a win you right Oh sugar apology I don't know why I bet against him every time I have no clue why do I do know why apology. I don't know why I bet against him every time. I have no clue. Well, I do know why. Why? Because I don't think he's good enough to win every time I bet against him. Okay. He's had a good Saturday.

No, he's had a good run. No, he's had a good run. He's been on a little run. He's been on a run. He ain't lost a round in... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just this month alone. He's been on a run.

I look stupid. I look stupid. Let's been on the run. I look stupid. I look stupid. Let's go, Suge. I look stupid. I do. Shout out to Suge. And it's Jersey, yo. Don't bet against Jersey, Joe.

Don't do that. Oh, the dude from Jersey? You know I don't know battle rap like that. When I wasn't liking Suge, I didn't know where he was from. I don't care about that. Then I found out he was from Jersey. Then I had to stick with my dislike no I'm telling you about me ages ago not anytime recently I fuck with you got it now I just didn't

think that he would win this battle especially not in this decisive of a manner I've never known she'll be like a lyricist and that don't really matter it don't really matter. It don't really matter. But you know what? It's not just Suge. I bet against DNA every time and lose. Every time and lose. Like, there's a few niggas I bet against and just be wrong every fucking time,

but that's fine. Chess. Chess. I thought would handle his... They say you was sick or something, right? Oh, please. I'm sick of that. I'm sick of that. I thought would handle his. They say you was sick or something, right? Oh, please. I'm sick of that. I don't want to hear that. I'm sick of that.

I'm sorry. I don't want to hear that. I'm sick of that. All that throw up shit. Yeah, I don't want to hear that. I don't know what the fuck you ate the night before, what you done drank. I don't give a fuck about none of that. How you turned up.

All of that throw up shit, nigga. When you standing there, you standing there. I don't want to see your body ailments. Yeah. I feel you. Move. Yeah. Yeah, no. Move. Go to a go to a hospital nigga Hackensack Hospital go check in the ER Go do something get the fuck out of a smack venue if your health isn't right Nigga this something I said, yo, I said go

Go now I said yo said no And I like chess I fuck with chess One of the better pins for me. He does when he's young. But no, get the fuck out of here. Move, nigga. Fucking gun title niggas. You niggas went out there and thought it was gun title weekend. That's what happened.

It looked like it was going to be gun title weekend. If surf don't do surf, it was, yeah. Did Easy win? Yes. In decisive manner? Yeah. I heard it. I heard it. I'm watching that one. manner? Yeah. I heard that he did. I heard that he did.

I'm watching that one. And that one, I didn't expect either. I was like, Cal is going to destroy. No, EZ would take care of him. Cal came in that first round on fire. EZ clings him up, two and three. Some people were saying a 30, and I'm not mad at it. I'm going to watch that when I leave.

But if Serb don't show up, gun titles, man. I don't know. A, but. I'm going to watch that when I leave. But if Serf don't show up, gun titles, man, I don't know. A little shaky. I don't know. And Serf was supposed to have a harder time than that. Yeah. Let's pause this so he can get his ass over here. I don't like niggas that go and win all weekend

and then want to pop up in front of their friends. Like, right? What are you supposed to do? Go get low. We ain't seen this thing in months. Yeah, nigga, don't come here now. Go get around your little crip niggas. What the fuck are you talking about?

Go get around some of them, you know what I mean? Look at that. Don't come here. Look at that. Come and zap your niggas up. Get the fuck out of here. I'm still up, yo. Get the fuck out of here.

Somebody got to humble this man. And we are Bike We have a special guest In the building Who's not really a special guest Because he's part of the pod But he's not part of the pod

He's part of the family He's gang That's a microphone Fix it so we can hear you. Adjust yourself. There you go. Get it right. This ain't rolling loud. This ain't rolling loud. There you go.

Now we hear mic chat, mic chat, mic chat. You like it? Hey! Alright, another round of applause. We've got Surf here. Surf should be arrested for the brutal murder of JC as we formerly knew him.

He then got hopped right on a plane, like, while JC was still rapping. He hopped right on a plane while JC was still rapping, made it to Rolling Loud, had on the silk Casablanca up there Uh Shirt all the way Unbuttoned

Uh Showing black chest Showing black chest What? Make some noise For Sue Surf Or do we Can we even still call him

Sue Surf I don't know if it's Mr. Surf now Nah nah not too much Just surf It's just surf I'm still the same person Still surf I don't want no credit Yeah I don't want no credit's Mr. Surf now. Nah, not too much. Just surf. It's just surf. I'm still the same person. Still surf?

Yeah, I don't want no credit for rolling loud. We're going to go crazy. Let's celebrate. Pop bottles. I don't want no credit for JC, though. Why? Why? I told y'all for...

Because you never respected JC. Ever. Come on. Some of these niggas that I'm beating, I don't want no credit for some of these niggas. I've been told niggas for years. So you don't even get no points for that? No. Come on.

You've been saying it, though. Like, yo, you're just a pin. He's niggas. I've been told niggas for years. So you don't even get no points for that? No. Come on. You've been saying it though. Like, yo, you're just a pin. He's just a pin. I've been saying this before. I don't give him no credit for nothing I'm supposed to. I've seen pins kick your ass up there before.

No, you've seen Mount Rushmore, one of the best to ever do it, ever, kick my ass. Okay. We talking about loaded looks.

He on... I was talking about conceded. No, stop it. That's, no. That shit aged terrible. Like, in today's day, that'd be him. Shit aged terrible.

Well, y'all have to battle today. No, if you watch it today, I'd be him. His material age terrible. I'd have to watch it back then and get your ass. I mean, you know, to each his own.

But I'm not going to do that to Conceited. JC and Conceited shouldn't be in the same. Two different people. Tell us why, tell us why you never respected J.C. And that's my man

Y'all know I was big on J.C. Forever I still am big On his penmanship And his ability to write I respect his pen You know what I mean

There's certain niggas I respect like But people don't What people don't respect Is the intangibles In battle rap Like it's not like that No more like

Hey yo let's all go down To the parking lot And all rap And everybody around It's not like that no more It's a whole production it's a show it's you know i mean we was just watching um like pod we had what yeah yeah yeah seriously well before we started we watched a little bit of a swamp and and uh right and ish was like yo why does he keep stopping after the bar and we was explaining to him like yo that's part of the shit part of show ring iq things like that like even like learning from y'all like it's a certain thing

it's pie etiquette it's just like certain things you do while you pie and then don't do when you know i mean shit like that and it's the same with battle rap you could tell like niggas just don't got it understood i'm like i'm watching somebody and i'll be like i could tell that the way he practiced in the house is opposite of the way he's standing on stage like small shit like that you know i mean like like with the i'm right-handed so i normally practice i perform on the left side of the stage so when i'm performing it's easier for me to turn and be directed at the crowd somebody else will practice so now it's hard to explain but you get what i'm saying like so now when they practice they go and they look at they're looking at smack you know i mean when he

go to make his motions because he's a right-handed battler but he's on the wrong side of the stage when he practice. So now when he's doing everything, you know what I mean? He actually, when he go to do all his movements, he go and look at the crowd. Your back is turned to everybody. You know, small shit like that, where you could just tell, you know,

somebody's ring IQ. You know what I mean? I learned some of that when Surf was attempting to coach me for the hollow battle. But the thing about this is, certain things you can't coach. Certain things you cannot coach, right? So as I told these gentlemen,

I didn't see none of the battles, but your battle. This is a Saturday night. My girl was in town. So I couldn't get on my normal, you know, normally I'd have been there from three o'clock just watching anything. But my girl was there.

But my son is there. So I have a stern talking to her. I say, yo, today is summer madness. I know you don't know what that is, and I know you don't care, but at some point, surf is battling. No matter what you and I are doing, I have to see surf, and that's it. So wherever we went, I brought my headphones,

my good Sonys that I bought out at the airport. We went to Legos, a restaurant. I'm sitting there with my headphones just in case, right? So surf goes on. And this is why it's just fun to watch this stuff. Because I need to see the entrance, the introduction, and the coin flip. There's a battle amongst the battle happening the battle starts so i'm home i'm home getting dressed we gotta go earlier than hey i got

i got i got to drive outside at 8 30 surf battle starts at 8 20 8 15 somewhere around there and i'm it's all black no jewelry stone face get your shit off JC I'm here to kill and JC went and it was cute and my girl looked at me and said

I mean you know a little more than me but was that enough and I said baby I don't think that was enough I don't think that was gonna do it and then sir started rapping and I said, baby, I don't think that was enough. I don't think that was going to do it.

And then Sir started rapping, and I said, we can go. That's what I said to her. I looked at her and I said, no, I did finish it, but I didn't need to sit in my house and hold my girl hostage. I know exactly where this is about to go.

And sure enough, that's where it went. And JC is my man. But as the battle went on, you could just feel it getting bad for him. And I knew it to be the case when Surf turned the battle into a show. This ain't even a battle no more. By the time we were leaving, because it took her about 10 minutes to get herself together, by the time we was leaving, she had to turn back at the TV

and say, wait, is the crowd chanting this nigga's words? Yo, they sung this nigga's whole verse. See that stop it shit that you talk about? It's a skill. That's when you good at it, it's for something. I got it.

JC had to be dead before the end of the first verse. I didn't think you had your strongest showing in the second verse. But by that point, it didn't matter. That was the worst surf in a year. Yeah, yeah. In the second verse. 75% surf. That wasn't.

I said that. Because if he couldn't kill you in that verse, then you wasn't about to die. I was talking to Daylight for like a half an hour before the battle i said i'm gonna lift his soul in this first round about the rest of it like just hypothetically if we're talking boxing and i knock you out in the first round and then me and you have stone cold even second and third rounds you lost the third round wasn't even at all right i'm gonna distance myself so much in this first round no matter what you do no matter what you do all you could do is catch up you know i mean and like, people don't, he lost the battle way I get into their head. You know what I mean?

I make people feel like it's so much more personal than it is. Like, I never got angles. I'm never talking about what your baby moms did, what your, I don't care about none of that. I just come rap. But by the time they get to the battle, like if you watch the face off, it's just so personal with them that they come and they just had a worse lackluster show. It's real slow. They talk about shit that people, you know, the battle coach will watch me grow up they know i got shot they know i've been in jail they know i you telling them like you just rewinding by the

time the third verse came i might have been settled at the restaurant or in route and this nigga surf is like all you do is rap you mean you cap you cap, you're the Ninja Turtles. You take this, you throw in a little bit of that shit. All you do. I was like, oh my God, this is about to go bad for this rapper guy up here. Don't kill my mans like that. But don't do that to my man. I didn't like that, yo.

I didn't like that. I was necessary. See, I think it was at the end of his second, at JC's second. Or, no, anyway, whoever you was with, you was talking. He was like, yo, this might be quick. He was out. He was talking about rolling loud. Yeah, he was.

He was talking about rolling. Yo, I'm out of here, yo. I'm not going to do, like, I was laughing with, like I said, Daylight about it. Like, that's called, like, in battle rap terms, that's defense. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't have much offense, which is my material. Right. But it's the small things in between the optics in between his rally he's saying certain shit i'm slapping my towel down oh boy i'm looking at my watch you do the small things like that like when he's rapping i'm stone face looking at the crowd nothing move

me that's defense that matters you know i'm saying like you gotta have a good office and a good defense like you could see me breaking him down during the battle from the light you know i mean like rest in peace like you know i mean his mom down during the battle from the, like, you know what I mean? Like, rest in peace, like, you know what I mean? His mom and stuff. Like, he just recently, like, you know, like, into the second round,

I say some wild shit to the, you know what I mean? And it's like, you could just see everybody, like, the people behind him, they deflate. Everybody like, everybody behind him start.

And you could just see them wearing down and wearing down. You know what I mean? It's a tough fight. As a battler, though, do you kind of wish that his performance were stronger so the battle could have been viewed in its proper light? Because when your opponent don't really do what he's supposed to do

and you know you showed up, it kind of could take away from the classic. It could be. At some point, yeah. I'm in a space in the culture right now to where it's like I'm worth the ticket, so I'm going to be able to get what I want regardless. But I needed that to get here. So I needed the Sir versus Khan, Sir versus Big T, Sir versus Hitman, shit like that. Can see it, can shine.

Yeah, exactly. I needed that then to make my stock what it is now. So now I don't care what a nigga come and do because, like, the card was sold out before they announced the third battle. You know what I mean? So it was five battles. They announced the second one. It was sold out. So at this point now, you going what I mean? So it was five battles. They announced the second one. It was sold out. So at this point now, you going to come and show up

or you going to come and die? You know what else helps you is that period of time where you was just real, real stupid. I'm calling it stupid. Other people might praise you for it, all that stupid shit you was doing. But in battle rap, that really helps. Like, JC is spending his time saying,

this nigga's fake. This nigga went to jail, came out, watched street shit. You got shot at. We don't respect niggas fakes nigga went to jail came out what street shit you got shot at you what we don't respect niggas they got shot and I'm like yo but he really was stupid for a little bit like that's not that's not penetrating the way that you think it is because a few months ago we've seen some footage that we should have seen like we just that ain't I mean you got to do something. And it'd be hard for me to see surf like that because this is fucking surf, y'all. It's fucking surf. But surf is, oh, man.

I think what else helps is that little stretch where you wasn't the best surf. For sure. No, he looked like Infinity Stone surf now. It was the Luxon of 40, that year right there. And hollow. That was nowhere near the same time I don't care I don't care

I'm saying it helped In who we see before us Oh no guarantee All of them Every one of them shits helped You know what I mean But that Luxon at 40 Like back to back

And then I sat down for a year And I just got to watch it From an analyst perspective You know I became a fan more than I was Because I'm not battling So now I'm watching niggas It could be the two random niggas Because I'm just being an analyst Doing my You know, I became a fan more than I was because I'm not battling. So now I'm watching niggas. It could be the two random niggas

because I'm just being an analyst doing my job and I'm so enthralled. I'm into the battle now. So a nigga might stop early or not finish something. I'm like, oh, what the fuck?

I'm watching. So I'm like, oh, this is how they feel when they're watching me. Oh, I get it, but at a higher level. So I'm like, all right,

well, honestly, because at some point I was beating niggas with two rounds and you start, you do gain an air of arrogance You know they treat you A certain type of way

The whole crowd splitting When you walk through All that extra shit And you You know what I mean You get an arrogance A sense of arrogance That's not necessary

When it's like I could just come in And just beat y'all regular So fuck it You know what I mean So I just judge it like that I might not need The best material

Like twerk I was actually like Threatened by twerk I was spooked At what he could've possibly did So I came in there And I was like I'm a lift you up the ground three rounds but JC I never felt like JC could battle like you get one round and you

did say that to us for a long time and you proved it to be John John Cortez JC is certain niggas that's like I don't give a fuck when it is what it is like you know what it is some nigg is. You know what it is? Some niggas don't know what it's like to be like prey. When I'm out and about just every day, I'm just always just because that's just how I am. You know what I'm saying? Naturally.

So I'm always prepared. Proper preparation prevents poor. Whenever I see you, I'm going to treat you how... You know it. It's been times you'll just be in the bed. He get a phone call. Hey, yo, man, surfing did some bullshit. Just because I saw it. Niggas don't got to live like that every day. So by the time somebody, the phone rings.

Oh, look at y'all. I'm about to cry. Finally, it sinks in. But when the phone ring, you feel me? But when the phone ring for like a JC and they're like, yo, it's time for surf. You're really not as ready as you was talking. You know what I mean? Because you're not really on it.

You're not looking over your shoulder every day. You're only looking on your shoulder after they call you and say, it's time for surf. Does JC get paid the most that he ever gets paid because he's battling you?

Guaranteed. I'll say, yeah, I don't care. I maybe don't care. Nah, you can't. Nah, the wrist is not worth the reward. I've never seen him in a Mary hoodie before. You'll never see,

you'll never see him in a Mary hoodie again. He might never, he might never main event a Summer Madness ever again. But if you and... It's like fighting Mayweather. Can you battle... If you fight Mayweather, it's a risk and a reward. It's a risk assessment.

But if you do good against Mayweather, you don't get put on another card. So even if he lost the serve, but it was a nice little tussle. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's the biggest problem. If he lost the surf, but just in a little tussle, he'd still get booked.

I think with battle rap, it's a little different, though, because these niggas all are very confident. Niggas, you know, a nigga like Jay-Z been walking around saying, surf can't fuck with him.

So if I finally, and niggas wanted this battle for years. And seeing that's why. So when you get it, when you get that battle It ain't just the that's the most I ever made so I could I'm not gonna say half-ass it But I'm happy because it's the most ever made no I niggas wanted this battle and I think he can't fuck with me

I'm gonna try to take his head off. No, but that's where the rappers got to shut the fuck up Would you say like you rap it he rappers? You can feel like you rap better than the world you should feel like that and it's subjective but if when it's battle time you can't beat the niggas that you say are not rappity rappers and when it's music time you don't make better music than the people you say are not rappity rappers then unfortunately you have to now shut the fuck up. Can't say nothing. If Kendrick didn't have classic albums and classic records to go with the amazing rapping, it would go different.

You got to be able to, and that's what, you just proved that JC shouldn't have been on the stage. That's all I was saying. It almost looked like, for that to be Summer Madness, it almost looked like JC for that to be Summer Madness, the main event, it almost looked like JC was out of his league. And that sounds crazy saying about JC because he's an amazing pin. It just shows you that there's sillings to it.

Like, there's really sillings to it. Like, you get a certain group of niggas in this room right here, and it's like, they'll shake this room if it's 13, 14, 15. And then it get levels to that. Like, you got hundreds, 200s, just levels. 1,500, 2 1500 2000 people in a room now we're not just talking about a pen we talking about we talking about now voice octave we talking about performance we talking about the way you say it how you know i mean i'm willing to

spin around while i'm saying this like what are you doing right you sitting there trying to talk to me and it looked like you're barking up a tree like you're trying to explain to me whatever you rapping about it don't look like it looks like i'm telling everybody what it is. You know what I mean? Not Jay through a monitor turned Jay to Jay Electronica. Oh my God. He breathed it through a monitor.

His new nickname would be Jay Electronica? That's some of that mouth sauce. That's disgusting. That's some of that mouth sauce. That's nasty. He wasn't rapping like that.

Shut up, nigga. That's nasty. He wasn't even doing it. Jay Electronica's crazy. Chris Hansen. 30 on the 9? Chris Hansen. Chris Hansen with life this. Jay Electron is crazy. Chris Hanson. 30 on the nine. Chris Hanson. Chris Hanson was like.

That was the worst crazy. Nah, it was good. That's when it was like. I like to look at the other. That was that first round, right? That was all first. I get that. I like that.

Marrion, Chris Hanson, Jay Electron. The spin around like a Marrion. That little jook that you did, that was funny. That was all in the first. Nah, but JC brought up a valid point. Can you rollerblade? Like I meant to ask. That's so nice.

I want to know. Yeah, I'm nice. See, but if that's the crux of your battle, then you lose. If the crux of your battle is coming in to attack my opponent for knowing

how to rollerblade. All the cool things is rollerblade, though. Like if you look up, if you're familiar with rollerblade, that's just rollerblade. That's still funny, though.

That's where surf came from. That's where surf started. Oh, shit. Wait, what? Yeah. Because you rollerbladed. That's still funny though. That's where surf came from. That's where surf started. Wait, what? Yeah. Because you rollerbladed so well, it was like you were surfing on the concrete. Nah, what is with you? I learn something new every day. We all used to be up at Route 22 at the skating rink, right?

So it was like Route 22. You had different clicks, like different skate clicks. Like Joker's Wild, shit like that. So we was the super friends. Like skater gangs. So you got like Iceman, Batman, Silver Surfer. Like I was surf first, like from skating. But I always like, after skating,

we would go right over to McDonald's and everybody would start rapping. Or like Black Surfer, like not Silver. Silver Surfer, right. I see what you did there. Yeah, and then surf just stuck. And you can still rollerblade? For sure.

I might have put that in the line too though. Rollerblade next. You got set right though. Roller, too, though. You got to say it right, though. Yeah, he didn't do it right. Got to Central Park. It didn't land right. I don't know. Can surf today battle Verb? That's a waste of time.

Verb, don't attack me. That's a waste of time for real. Don't attack me. I'm going to get attacked. I shouldn't ask. Yeah, that's a waste of time. That's why I asked. Tell the truth.

How bad do you think Moog gonna do Gitche? Why is your question... Why is that... I don't know why. Why is that the premise? Why is your question set up like that?

Because that's what's gonna happen. You gonna make a friendly wager? I disagree with that. Whatever you want. That's stupid. I disagree with that.

Whatever you wanna do. I bet you're saying the same shit about Loaded Lux. I bet you. I bet you we're saying the same shit about Loaded Lux. I bet you. I bet you he was saying the same shit about Loaded Lux. I think Loaded Lux killed Gitche. You're weird.

I think he killed him. That's cat. Every time Lux kills somebody, the battle rap community want to act like it's not a body. Like when? Like when he leave Earth and the rest of the people stay on Earth. Like when? There's no time that Lux beat somebody up. Stop it.

Stop it. The only time where it looked nuts was fucking that Mook battle. And I don't count nothing from Total Slaughter because I don't count nothing Paul Rosenberg

ever contributed to hip hop. He lost to Geechee. That nigga Mook went crazy in there. He lost to Geechee. I agree. He lost to Geechee. No matter how you want to love,

he lost to Geechee respectfully. Awesome, boy. Then he lose different. He do. He do. It don't be looking and feeling like a loss. Bro, this is a sport. You got Geechee. No matter how you want to love, he lost to Geechee respectfully. Awesome, but then he lose different. He do. He don't. He don't be looking and feeling like a loss. What you mean?

Bro, this is a sport. You got Geechee beating Mook? I do. Well, you got beef with Mook, so I'm done talking to you. No, that's not why, though, because I understand it. I still got an analyst job and that shit, too. I can still break down the game tapes and understand why. Murder Mook does not perform at that level of which you have to be on at that stage.

Like if I say this, give me some type of content from Murder Mook that would validate your points to say that he can keep up with a Geechee Gotti, right? If you erase Murder Mook versus T-Rock, we have no footage to back up your statement. I can show you Geechee Gotti versus Su-Surf. I can show you Geechee Gotti and T-Rock. I can show you Gitche Gotti versus Loaded Lux. I have the footage to back up the statements that I'm talking about. There's no content in which Murder Mood, you have to go back to 1999. There's no content in which- But 99 happened.

There's no content in which- You can't erase 99. You cannot. You can't. 99 happened. You can't. Jordan is the best, right? Know why?

You're talking about the three-time champion of the year. 93, 94, 95 exists, and 96, 97, 98 exists. You're talking about the three-time champion of the year as far as battle rap, which is the biggest award you could get in battle rap. The three-time back-to-back-to-back. They just made that award up. You know how long I was here? They making these new awards.

I've been here for fucking 20 years kicking you niggas' ass. I don't care about your newfound award. Kicking who's ass. Everybody ass. Kicking who's ass. You're a mook hater. You're a mook hater. You're a Mook hater. Mook hater for what?

Y'all know, you know, you know. But what would be the reason? You know Mook is excellent at customizing his style to match this specific opponent. And you don't think that's about to happen? If somebody was watching this blog and did not know battle rap, they would think you're talking about a different person. Anybody that keeps up with battle rap knows that Murder Mook has not given us any type of material that you're talking about right now, Joe, in seven years. If it was on Patreon, I would call Mook right now.

I'm not doing that right now. We got a pod to get to. Listen, while you were gone, these niggas have been talking about everything serious under the sun. About serious shit? That's right. Oh, my God. That's just us.

Just us, though, right? That's just us. Just us, though, right? I'm so glad that you're back here to talk about it. You're just a narrative man. Just us, right? You're just in your B though, right? I'm so glad that you're back here to talk about it. You're just a narrative man. Just us, right? You're just in your Bugs Bunny bag. I'm saying what I'm saying.

And y'all can say anything that y'all want to say. I won't suppress what y'all saying. I'm not suppressing. We don't have to talk at the same time. We can't talk and listen at the same time, right? I heard you. These brothers. Whew.

No, no, no. Hey, brother. Ask him, was it just these brothers? Yeah, was it just these brothers? I didn't think I went in my series. What do I take seriously? Ask him to answer you yes or no. Was it just these brothers?

Yes or no? Yes. Okay. Yes. Now what? You can lie on camera. We all do it. What else is important?

The girls are beefing. You said you wanted to get to it. No, I didn't say I wanted to get to it. I said that's your bag. You said you wanted me to get to it. No, I said I'm pretty sure said you wanted to get to it. No, I didn't say I wanted to get to it. I said, that's your bag. You said you wanted me to get to it. No, I said I'm pretty sure you'd want to get to it. That's your shit. Why would I want to get to it?

Because you're messy Joe and you like when the girls beef. Nah, I got some important shit that we need to talk about. Talk to me. All right, cool. And I've been thinking, I miss y'all, so I've been thinking about it. I'm like, damn, I got to wait and talk to the guys about this. I don't care. Just flush the toilet.

Have some serious ready soon. This is this? Okay, so listen. If sent, right? Like when you send mail, right? What is it? S-E-N-T, right? Yeah.

But now change. That's the past tense. It's scent, right? It's what? It's C-E-N-T, right? But when you smell something, it's scent like S-C-E-N-T, right? Okay. So what the fuck is solid?

And scent? Like if scent is scent, it's scent scent and scent you know what I'm saying like what you know it's the best weed ever yo hey dog nah dead ass hey dog talk to me ish what's salad and scent don't do that again it's a motherfucker yo I thought you was going to talk about the two foot spade and it went viral

no let's finish this girl beef shit Ice I want my I'll talk we got you we'll tell you the silent

and sent soon you don't even know though that's a real valid question you running around here saying a word that you don't even know

never mind go ahead what happened with the girl beef why you're wrong is that I don't even know. Never mind. Go ahead. What happened with the girl beef? Why you're wrong is that I don't know what girls are beefing. Okay. You don't know.

Who beefing? I don't know. Okay. I know about Cardi versus Akbar. That's the girls. No? Not for me. Oh.

Not for me. For. Not for me. For me, the question becomes, and I've asked this to a few women, so it's not just me saying, what qualifies somebody as a lady of hip-hop? Because I don't know. I'm not familiar enough with Akbar. Nor am I. I don't know enough about Akbar. I'm not sure if I should say that.

From what I've learned, she's an internet sensation. She's been featured on a Nicki record, and she's been on Love & Hip Hop. Gotta be a lady of hip hop. If you're on a Nicki record, you're a female rapper. Not true. I couldn't disagree with that more. If you're on a Nicki record, you're not a female rapper? Couldn't disagree with that more.

Today, there's mad different ways for people to appeal to different audiences, and there's a huge internet audience. So if someone has a following on the internet, I wasn't jacking that Saucy Santana was a rapper until the songs kept coming out.

The songs kept coming out. I mean, I've seen her on Bars or I-95. I've seen her rap before. Fam, there's been mad girls to spit a verse. So what makes you a rapper now? That don't make you a lady of hip-hop to me. And that's why I brought this up. So what does? Now I'm curious.

Is there a certain amount of work you have to put out? Or is it Ice Spice, not lady of hip-hop? I think so. Great question. He said it's Ice Spice, lady of hip-hop. I don't have enough info yet. From the looks of it, I'm going to say yes. What?

I'm seriously asking? I don't have enough information. Because she could turn around and never put another song out again. And she's still got a summer better than some people have ever had. Awesome. But if Doja Cat stops after Bitch I'm a Cow or whatever that song was, then she's not a lady of hip hop. But she kept going.

When you keep going, it's not about the way you have to go. What's the bar? No, it ain't about the success. It's about every day you are waking up and working toward being a rapper. And I don't know that from these internet people. I don't know that. But see people i don't know that kind of go like i said before today they not working towards being a rapper today i'm working towards getting hot via rap real quick so that i can springboard onto something else so i can spin off and do

something else like i'm not but i'm not calling you a woman of rap or a person of rap in that woman of rap or a person of rap in that that's me so now but I want fans may I'm asking you Joe if you're using rap to just leverage your notoriety or your fan base to come in and get a quick lip a quick lick and go I'm not acknowledging you me and my great rapper ass is not acknowledging you as a rapper of any sort so because we don't know what these people are doing in their day-to-day because you said you have to be waking up every day trying to work towards that my thing to you is what's the note today we know what a lot of them are doing on a day-to-day because of Instagram and I saw some tick-tock and because of the show some of them are working toward being popular on these

apps or going viral for anything that don't tell me that you're working on the art of music. That's what I'm saying. Hold up. We've seen artists come out and complain about this. They're being directed to do that by the people that they signed to. Hey, we need you to go viral there first. We need you to put a TikTok out.

Every day you got to do something on TikTok. It's in your contract now. Cool, but contracts are also given to the person that don't really care about music anymore so now you got the person that at level one i wasn't making music i wasn't working toward making better music or the art of music or any of that but i got a deal because i'm popular and now when i got the deal they're instructing me so i'm doing that still none of that tells me that you are a woman of rap or a rapper or that you serious about rapping because it's like now let's take the girl that's trying to rap but don't make nothing and you got the one girl who got the song of the summer so let's take the i mean that nigga much

and she's doing more she's performing more and doing more in this one summer than a girl that's trying to rap who's constantly dropping shit but her instagram's not moving you got one girl who's she didn't get to look yet yeah but context is important here it's not like this munch girl popped up and was serviced a record or was ghost written a record or had a team or a writing we don't know how that record came up we know how that record came up we know it wasn't by any of the means that I'm saying. We don't have to do that. You think it was just her playing in the studio? Or her and some hood niggas. I'm sure she had her own, but it wasn't label writing.

It wasn't money. It wasn't money. She, from whatever hood, came up with some shit. It popped. It's working. The Meg freestyles in front of the Houston cars, the blogs. It popped. It's working.

Cardi had to do a whole lot Before Bodak Yellow popped Started working She continued The girls that have seen success Like they follow They follow a path The girls that don't

Like there's mad girls That write verses I consider Flo Millie to be A woman of hip hop I know that wherever she is Every day She's coming up with trying to be A better of hip-hop. I know that wherever she is, every day, she's coming up with trying to be

a better rapper or make better music or make her name known. Lady London, more of the same. Like, there's mad girls that ain't popped that I consider,

what's the Griselda girl? Armani C. There's mad girls that ain't popped yet. You know that every day, they waking up trying to get a better song, get with a better team

better producer better video and try to pop. There's a list of other girls that have verses and rap them in their car and sound fly. That's the extent of it.

And that ain't just girls. That's what I'm saying. That's all us. Today that's artists period. You got some artists that are trying to perfect their craft because I want to be good at this. Right. And then you got some artists that are trying to perfect their craft because i want

to be good at this right and then you got a whole nother crop of artists like i said that are hey man if i can get if i can get hot on tiktok i can get hot there and do it if i can get hot and rap i can get hot there and over there see where i'm from we don't have many black men that typically fall under that. Where I'm from, all of the black men that rapped or started rapping was seriously trying to rap or get a deal or make money. They wasn't trying to do it to just make a verse in the car. That's not currently today. Exactly.

I'm talking about today. These niggas are- Today you're going to come across- Give me the example in that today. Today you're going to come across- Give me the example in that today. Today you're going to come across more artists that would rather have that one summer than have a full- Correct. The average, and I'm not saying I'm a super duper cold fan. But that's not replying to my point because-

They're trying to be a cold. They just want that one summer. But that's not replying. Hold on, let me just reply to him. That's not replying to my point because to have that summer takes work. That's not always true. No, it's not. No, it don't.

Give me an example. I don't want to put nobody's names out there, but we can bleep it out. We can bleep names out. Jumping on a YouTube beat and just going on a song that's already a YouTube song and throwing your hat all the way up in the air and it never coming back down. And then you look up and you hot. How much practice is that? We never heard of it. Bleep me out, but we never heard of that prior to,

we never heard of no Bobby Smurda prior to Hot Nigga. And that doesn't mean he's not working, but we talking about, why? What Bobby Smurda you know before Hot Nigga? That looks like something that organically popped, and I would like to assume

that's what you're talking about. So there's no proof or evidence to show that Bobby was trying to be that of or there of a rapper. Sure there is. It's every single thing that happened after. And that's my point about what you're saying. Everybody could throw their hat up to try to get hot.

The people I'm talking about, you still have to figure out what to do once you get hot. I'm not even saying he threw his hat up to try to be hot. I'm saying he had a moment. But he got hot. It happened. He had a moment. And know what happened after that? Another record came.

A record deal came. A crew came. A posse cut came. Wait, wait, hold up. He went to jail, came home, said, I'm still rapping. Oh, my label ain't backing me? Guess what? I'm still rapping.

Mad shit happened to tell us that Bobby Shmurda was dedicated to rap. No. They already had a crew prior to the song dropping. They was already rolling prior to that song dropping. All them niggas was in that video. All them niggas was already rolling and rapping together and had they own little clique and crew before that song popped.

They was trying to make that happen. They was dedicated to rapping. They was trying to make that happen. They was a bunch... Bro, they got indicted for actually being not rappers. They was running around being the wild... That don't say that they not dedicated to rapping.

They were a bunch of little wild niggas in the city that just so happened like any of these other little drill niggas. That's what I keep saying. All these niggas

now are not rappers. No, they're actually dedicated to rapping about what they're doing outside. I want y'all to stop saying now because that is at the inception of hip hop which y'all are saying.

That's true. That's not a now thing. That's not a now thing. That's not a now thing. It's always been niggas that have one foot in and one foot out. Every crew that you named from the 70s and 80s, they were street niggas. Hold on, hold on. You know the difference, though?

Joe said that to me all the time. If you got one foot in and one foot out, you're not focused on rap. That's not true. You're missing one part. You're missing yourself a hip-hop artist. And I didn't consider that until I chilled. The part y'all are missing from the 70s. Nigga, when you had one foot missing one part. You consider yourself a hip-hop artist. And I didn't consider that until I chilled.

The part y'all are missing from the 70s. Nigga, when you had one for them, you still was a part of hip-hop. Look, the part that y'all are missing from the 70s and all that to now is the money.

Now, niggas is looking at it as this is a lick. True. Facts. Ice. And I could use this and it been still looking at it. It wasn't no money.

No, he right. We just saw KRS and I'm saying there was no money back then. But not at the very, very inception. KRS was talking about Sugar right. We just saw KRS and I'm saying, wasn't no money back then. But not at the very, very inception. KRS was talking about Sugar Hill Gang. But when KRS and MC Shan and Roxanne Shantae and them was running around,

it was money. It wasn't the level of money that we getting today. Them niggas was getting $1,000 or $500 for a show. Nigga, in the 80s, in the early 80s, that was money.

Shan is looking at Big Daddy Kane like you getting money. Yeah, like that was money. We looking at Big Daddy Kane like he not getting money, but that nigga had a Nefertiti head the size of my kneecaps. Them niggas was looking at Eric B and Rakim like, Like you getting money. Oh, y'all are getting money.

Y'all niggas $6,000 a sheep. In today's climate, the average up and coming artist is looking for that moment more than they're looking for a catalog. I would agree. I would agree only. And artist is looking for that moment more than they're looking for a catalog i would agree i would agree and they're looking for that moment for what no i would agree like for vibrancy i would agree with that be based on the internet presence right but going viral or the moment back in the day was just a different moment they still were searching for the moment right they might have been searching to be on fucking Ralph McDaniels and Jimmy Fallon.

Yeah, you get what I'm saying? It's Jimmy Fallon. We talking about Ralph McDaniels was it in the black community. You know what I'm saying? So that was your moment. But look, back then, I was looking to get on as a rapper. To do more. Yeah, I want to be a rap star.

I want to be... Wait, wait, wait. You're right. But today, you're saying to do more. Right. Their to do more is, I want to deal with Popeye's. I want to deal with McDonald's. I want to be on CSI. I want to be on this.

I want to be on that. It's just the levels have grown. I'll tell you this. It's way more one-hit wonders today than it was back then. You think that's based on the labels or based on the artists? I don't know about that.

I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. Personally, I feel like that. But his premise is correct. I see where he's going. I don't know that he's right in saying that. No, we don't know

if it's right. His premise is correct. It's more based on somebody get, like we're watching more artists get that record and not even need another one because it's about

having the artist chase another one no more. In the 70s, you needed to actually be a singer to secure a record contract, which is the same with rap when it happened. You needed to be a rapper, produce music. Today, you're right.

You have way more people who realize you don't have to be that to do that. Can we sell you? The chubby kid at Walmart can go on TikTok, go viral, and have a song, and we can burn him out this summer and not have to talk about him next summer. The odds of that happening today is way more with the regular, like Ice Spice can be regular last week and then be popping this week. We burn her out this summer and don't have to hear from Ice Spice next summer. That's going on way more right now.

If you had a record back then, we're still going to try you. If you A-B-B, we're still going to try you a couple more times. We don't have to try you again now today. If your gram catches fire, all we need you for is a split second. That's it, because we're going to sign you, lock you down, text write you off, and it don't matter what you do. Well, you're speaking for the label side of that. That's the label, though.

But on the artist side of that, no, the fight is exactly the same. Yeah, you came up with whatever you came up with to get this attention, i.e. Ice Spice. But when the heat from this song die down, guess what she got to do if she's dedicated to making music? Go and get another one. If she's dedicated. If she's dedicated.

Because at the same time, guess what she has to do. Answer my question. Oh, she's dedicated? Yes. She would have to come up with another one. Now, if I got hot off of this song, but now got a part in this new movie coming up. I got a TV show over here.

Oh, Rihanna wants me to Fenty. I'm now heading my way. Fuck rap. You're right. But the odds of that taking place with one single, that's an outlier. That's not the norm. The odds is- And, hold up.

Let me reply to Ice. Fuck. What did he just say? Fenty, Ice Spice. Oh, it's not designed to be that way. By pure design, it goes against what you're saying. See, I think now it's been changing to be that way. It took me my whole life to come up with this tune to get me this moment.

Now my phone is off the hook nonstop. How did all you people even get my phone number to reach out? Oh, shit. I better get somebody to handle some of this. You go get a manager. I don't know if she signs a production contract. Did she get the right lawyer to figure some of this shit out? By the time she come in to get the movie part,

because the movie people are not going to knock on ice spice's door without some of these things set up true so what's happening back to that earlier point about representation that's true it's behind every push there's a steven victor behind vince there's fucking um behind the niggas that's huh yeah cory behind the niggas that's getting to it is somebody back there doing that. And now you're talking about your percentages are being. So this is the design of it. I was going to say, the new design is here's a 360. If you are in that movie.

We'll put you here, here, here, here. How did you get in that movie? We use this to get you hot. We put you everywhere else and we still eat off everything. Who is being paid from that movie? How much did you walk away from? Yeah. We'll put you everywhere now.

We're going to use rap to get you hot and your sex appeal. Like, right now, I just feel like the hot moment right now in today's day, if you go hot off a song,

they're actually thinking about doing everything else but another song. You know, back then, that's what I'm saying. If Hurricane Chris make a song, we're actually getting ready for the next one.

Let's get some more records. Now, let's get him the best producer. Don't get him mad at me again. Let's get I'm saying. If Hurricane Chris make a song, we're asking, get him in the studio. Let's get some more records. Now, let's get him the best producers. Hurricane Chris is making a song. Don't get him mad at me again. Let's get him more producers. Let's get him the best. Right.

I guarantee you that nobody in that Ice Spice Girls corner right now is telling her to stop making music. No, of course not. Of course not. But I bet you what, they're not looking for,

I bet you they still, they're looking for, they're pushing that song. They're not beasting about another record. They're trying trying to make that they're trying to expand that song no no no no no no no they already got that song stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop because people have to understand the design of this she created that song and owns it 100 now it's bubbling. There is a world that recognizes the value in it bubbling, so we're going to try to put some type of contractual agreement in front of her. And she's going to sign it.

And then opportunities will start to just come out the wazoo. But that is the setup here. For your song to get where you want it to go, you're going to have to relinquish something to somebody or deal with it being popping in the Bronx. Popping regionally. Yeah, I think it's all the same. Yeah, we might be going in circles.

No, when you put the internet into it, it's just a different strategy to get the same result. I think that. Jumbo, what else is important or unimportant? into it it's just a different strategy to get the same result what I think that jumbo what else is important or unimportant well you see the little chick went viral she don't got what she's like she went viral on Twitter showing what he got no living room but she thick as hell okay what is the liver on her teeth but you want us in the camera snatch that shit all right I'm but look though you need to go back but she think is

hell come on you planning that I'm not I'm not come on and you have elevated past that too you shouldn't be fucking the teethless chicks I ain't say I wouldn't you didn't say you wouldn't you did say you would you definitely yeah oh wait

I missed that you bugging you even put a little lay rug in that living room and a little what rug a little lay rug a little lay rug

she don't got no couches I'm doing wait this is what's in there? Who that? That's her? Yeah, that's her. I follow her.

Yeah, look, that's cool. That's enough. Oh, yeah, that would happen. Come on, bro. For real. I wouldn't tell nobody, though. You don't got to tell nobody. I know she was toothless.

She got no teeth? Yeah, she don't got no living room, big bro. She get something from you. Brand new. Brand new. Brand new. You'll put some couches right in there. Podcast companies are buying millions of listens through auto-playing episodes populated in free mobile games.

iHeart, the top podcast publisher on PodTrack, has bought around 6 million unique downloads per month since 2018. You don't say. I had it on my list. I didn't really know what the ramifications were, but yeah, I had it. Podcasters are always hunting for new flashy places, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Some networks though have uncovered a less glamorous yet highly effective way to gain millions of bankable listeners, loading up mobile games with a particular kind of ad. Each time a player taps on one of these fleeting in-game ads and wins some virtual money for doing so, they said loot on Bloomberg, virtual money for doing so, a podcast episode begins downloading on their device. The podcast company, in turn,

can claim the gamer as a new listener to its program and add another coveted download to its overall tally. The practice allows networks to amass downloads quickly by tapping into a wellspring of hyperactive video game users. But it also calls into question who a legitimate podcast listener is and what length of time should be required to count as a download.

Not all impressions are created equal, said Larry Chacharish, whoever he is, a marketing professor at Pace University. I'm not saying this tactic is not ethical or illegal, but it raises issues. If someone is trying to play a game and that's the purpose of this interaction, they may just be eager to play the game and are not that interested in the information being shared.

True. My question is, is anybody shocked? No. That's not good. Streaming forum for podcasts? Who would have guessed? Joe would have. I would have guessed that they would have done that. Why? Why would you have guessed that they would

are you saying you would have guessed yeah okay I always thought it was like I thought you said like you're shocked at that I thought it was like always like what music and everything that's why I always felt like it was some little like factory in China and they just got like a bunch of like iPads like no they had it what's a bunch of iPads taped against the wall. They just press play on all them shits at the same time. Nah, I didn't even like that no more. The podcast networks that are actively mining downloads in the mobile game space are doing

so through an intermediary company called Jun Group, which was founded in 2005 and sold to Advantage Solutions, Inc., a marketing and sales company. That sounds like a scam. Huh? That sounds like a scam. In 2018. Who just bought that? Corey Weiner,

CEO at Jun Group, said the company specializes in making consumers aware of products, websites, and podcasts by placing its ads in over 1,000 mobile apps that collectively reach 100 million unique users.

It's all Fugazi. I be pissed off playing Candy Crush and fucking Joe Budden podcast, come on. The fuck? So they just put it anywhere, like just placed it in between games? I don't do that, cause I'm be number one. You don't?

I be number one anyway. Some bullshit come on the pod. Yo, like, what, that's gonna make me super number one? Nah, it might make you super 100 million listen then you got to go to sleep with how you got your money man I will sleep already I'm sure it is

that statement will always be true for me it was never valuable to purchase Twitter followers. Because when I needed to sell something, I needed to know I was selling to people that were there. Me faking my own numbers to go out and raise my race, especially as somebody that's already doing pretty all right, that's not a plan of longevity for me.

No, that's really not. Makes sense. That was people doing that shit but then when it come time to start moving an audience how do you move a ghost right i see both sides how do you move somebody that don't really exist well if you got a huge bag because the ghost existed then i guess the mentality would be fucking no logistical numbers off of Yeah they changed that I agree with you But four niggas was just Caring about the followers I'm not knocking the people

That engage in this Or participate in this I'm saying for me My ideology never lined up with Faking Remember that day I forgot who it was But the website came out

That showed you who had Fake followers Yeah That was awesome That was the best damn internet It really was No when internet took showed you who had fake followers? Yeah. That was awesome. That was the best damn internet. It really was. No, when Instagram took the fake followers.

Oh, yeah. When they took the fake followers. And now, hey, whoever's there, that's really y'all. Oh, that was fun on the internet. Niggas was sick. We had some fun times last decade on the internet. I don't know if this decade is going to match up. Nah.

It's almost impossible. To the fun times, man. The internet was crazy. Or the day that- It was like the internet was being born. Or the day that Twitter did some type of glitch shit and then everybody that you had blocked was immediately unblocked.

Oh, that was funny too. That was another one. That was funny too. Them niggas, you and Wale caught it. He's like, yo, we here now. Yeah.

That was funny. Yeah, you know what? Later on, I eventually made it my business to try to unblock everybody on Twitter that I had ever blocked. Back my business to try to unblock everybody on Twitter I ever blow back when I was having been on Twitter in about a month

But so you don't got nobody's block this girl changes all like a lot has changed since you since you go We're gonna talk about it. We're gonna talk about a picture on something like a lot has changed his girls on his lock screen now Yeah, he thinks a seven day week is really four days now. What else? I don't know what that one. That was shade. He's creating narratives. He told me the narrative

last part and came out of his mouth. He said, yo, my week is so short now. I was like, oh shit, she stole the days. Scream saver, that was heavy. My daughter stole the days, yes.

Don't blame your daughter, y'all. No. Shut up. Don't try to serious me out. Oh. Let you create the narrative then. Don't blame your daughter. I'm not. Shut up. Don't try to serious me out. Oh. Let's try to serious. Don't try to serious me out.

Oh, my bad. We love your daughter. We're lying. I'm thinking about my girlfriend all day. What'd you say? You have to, like. You got a girlfriend? Screensavers, I'm thinking about my girlfriend all day.

Like, that's all day. That's crazy. Your girl's on your phone? My screensaver, no. Oh, okay. That's a little hectic I'll tell you what The new phone The screen don't cut off

So She always there Looking right at you Let me see Yeah new phone Don't even cut off Screen don't cut off Jumbo

Nobody ever runs To center court I'ma tip the screen to you Nobody ever runs To center Who the fuck is Jabel McGee here Your screen don't

Cut off all day So you just see her All day And then go home And got to see her I don't look at my phone All day That's wild

But every time You do pick it up You're reminded That you're in a relationship No it's not I don't need to I ain't forget I just like having

On my screen my nigga That's all So what Ain't nothing wrong That's it Sorry I just enjoy having on my screen my nigga. That's all so what and I rock That's it. That's it. Sorry. I just enjoy it. It's not wrong with that Y'all can put whatever y'all want on y'all screens on your phones or whatever. I'm a put Life is short

How you know when your new girls fucking you better than your old girl? How do you know? Damn. I'm asking as a man. How do you know? Hmm. You need to do about three goals. Huh?

You need about three shots. About three? Yeah. You don't think more than that? Like with your old girl? Your new girl got to fuck you a few more times. Maybe about seven. Right, like seven. I'll give you seven.

Because that first two, you'll be like, oh shit. Yeah, they all fuck good. They all fuck good on the first two. That first two. First two is the interview chick. You know, man, you gotta be the fuck up the first two. You fell in the Hudson on the first two. You are bad.

You fuck up the first two. You fell in the Hudson on the first two. Yeah, about a week. About a week. Because once we start getting around fifth and sixth, though, is like she like you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because once we start getting around fifth and sixth, now we start mad about you coming on call.

Like, you jump up as soon as I say, like, bring your ass. I'm giving you that. All that start matter. All that matter. I told you, one of the other reasons I had to stop cheating, man. You go out there in the street, these bitches ain't touching you right. These bitches ain't touching you right. Just go head on back home, yo. Be mad at yourself. I'm not gonna lie it's not worse than wasting a cheat blocked that. I'm not going to get these

shits off my fucking white couch. This is alpaca. It's like if you don't pass some shits. Nah, that's a good topic, yo. Don't fuck up your

good cheat time. Wasting a cheat is overly disgusting. It's true. Come on. Now we're immature. We're talking about a picture.

You can't. I don't have nothing else that I need to get off in this part. I don't. I don't have nothing else that I need to get off in this pod. Yeah. I don't. I'm cool. What they sleeping on, Joe?

That's a good question. You know what? I mentioned this young lady, Cecily, on one of them pods, and I never played the record. You played it. No, I did not. I just shouted it out. She wasn't my sleeper. I didn't touch the record. You played it. No, I did not. I just shouted it out. She wasn't my sleeper.

I didn't touch the record. You played a song. Yes, you did. No, I did not. You're absolutely wrong. Even when she highlighted it, it was only us talking. We never got into the record. This is Cecily.

This record is called Without You. I got a lot of fire R&B sleepers in my phone. I'm not going to hold you. A lot of them. A lot of them. Oh shit, she got me. Brand new music from Cecily. This record is called Without You. You knew it from the start. The way you had my heart wrapped up in yours. Yours. I've been yours, yours

Though I had my ways, you never strayed away I'll tell you now When I would be They'd live without The one I need Without you They't live without you I can't live without you I can't live without you I can't live without you

I can't live without you Can't live without you Can't live without you Can't live without you Can't live without you Can't live without you Where would I be Tell me where would I be Without you I can't live without you

Where would I be Without you Can't live without you Can't live without me Can't live without you Can't live without you Can't live without you No drill button Brand new music from our girl Cecily That was tough That record is called Without You. She sounds amazing.

Sound of things, Paul. She's an angelic shit. And she smoked that. Yeah, she went crazy. Great record. Check her out. She can sing, Sid. Mm-hmm.

I'm staying in Jersey. Why not? Going down to Trenton. This is Big O, Different Era, Trenton. This is Big U. Different Era featuring T.I.L.D.U. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Picture me beefing by the bitch that anybody can hit. Whole team bout to throw rollies all on the wrist, uh More cream ground about 40 times if I six, uh Multiply that by a dub, I want some shit, uh Slick, when I was broke, they was smiling I might throw every one I lost on my days October 10th, gon' take your bitch off to the alley Celebrate my trip around the sun, put dick all on her tongue I've been humble all these fucking years

But niggas know I'm the one, I'm looking like It's your time, nigga, never the dose Nigga, cherish my growth, stop comparing my quotes I've been staring the boat, in my captain hat White tee, shorts to match, same fat Nigga, from the proudest, run the corner back Nigga had it bubbling, lost it all, beloved, it was humbling Heart broke, thought I'd never love again

Thought I'd never love again, I was wrong Been in love with hustling all along Made a hundred K, I ain't spread it on my own I ain't make no money, phone, I put it back on the block From a different era, we just do what we don't talk From the way you moving, like you working with the law Niggas so corny, starting to piss me off Just off, yeah This a different texture, this a different cough, yeah Picture me, beefin' with a rapper that just was beggin' for features, uh Came through that bitch, bell was matchin' the sneakers, uh We got on camera, he thinkin' shorty's the keeper, uh

That money you signed for, I done made off the reefer, uh Slut, when I was down, they was laughin' Unk, now we do pour the platter like it's Manhattan Niggas talkin' all of this paper, but they ain't stackin' They bring the straps wherever we at, I'm never laughin' Unk, now we do pour the platter like it's Manhattan Niggas talkin' all of this paper, but they ain't stackin' They bring the straps wherever we at, I'm never lackin' Right or wrong? I'm a Libra, my young bitch, a Capricorn Lisa Rae, play a clavage, my backup John

Imagine my main bitch, adapt when the game switch Slick speaks the language Niggas be rappin' it, don't be livin' that Bad bitch at the condo Me and Chroma Sax rappin' it, don't be livin' that Bad bitch at the condo, with a party ass slick Me and Chroma Sax playin' Gimme That Tell the DJ stop the track and spin it back Thought I'd never love again, I was wrong Been in love with hustlin' all along Made a hundred K, I ain't spread it on my own I ain't make no money, phone, I put it back on the block From a different era, we just do what we don't talk From yeah From the way you movin' like you workin' with

the law, yeah Niggas so corny, startin' to piss me off, yeah This a different texture, this a different cloth, yeah We applyin' pressure, we ain't lettin' off, yeah We don't talk to workers, go and get your boss, yeah This a marathon, we ain't never off course, yeah Take it to the tippy top, your shit tickin', you should get a different watch Trap hot, burn that shit down, get a different spot

It's okay, can't smell the fumes, buy the chicken spot On the back block, everybody dressed in black It's okay, cause the opps and the cops confused when they spin the clock Thought I'd never love again, I was wrong Been in love with hustlin' all along Made a hundred K, I ain't spread it on my own I ain't make no money phone. I put it back on the block. From a different era

we just do what we don't talk. From the way you moving like you working with the law. Niggas so corny starting to piss me off. This a different texture. This a different cloth. That's tough. That's Different Era by Big U and T.L.D.

That's tough. Jersey. Big Jersey. I'm not familiar with them, but now I am. Shit. I'm playing something off Milano and Big Ghost album. This is Church Service. Is it a fantasy? Hey, the what?

We cannot be afraid to understand that we are now re-evaluating our destiny and re-evaluating the direction. And so in all of that, we must talk to discuss where we are. Candles on the curb again, post-traumatic stress, niggas bout to purge again. So I keep writing that murder, they want that dirt again Reality wrapped, precise like a surgeon Due to circumstances, niggas took penitentiary chances My brother told me, memory tapped in

Niggas need money like the treasury captain Hustle 24-7, niggas never relaxing Bunch of scammers at work, block where cameras don't work Ambulance search Niggas wasn't savage at birth A product of their environment Jobs not hiring Getaway driver left a tire Prince, analyze this I don't glamorize shit Primitives be with canon size shit Outside camouflage it

You know my mind stayed to be on us So got the beam on Chuck for that paper Elon Musk See a servant after church service Some guy hit, nigga, we heard the verdict See a servant after church service Who up with burglars, know where the dirt is See a servant after church service Some guy hit, nigga, we heard the verdict See a servant after church service Soon got hit, nigga, we heard the verdict

See a servant after church service Prayin' to God he heard us, you know where the dirt is Lift every voice, after Plan B there was none You don't get every choice, I kill all these joints that I'm featured on Conference on a speakerphone, my niggas on the block Runnin' from D's hotter than G-Channel Deeper poems on the stage like a deaf poet Wrestle mics like a Greco-Roman, special moments

I pop bottles for, pomegranate jacket just to start it off Tangerine kicks fly monologue My pop is gone, I inherited this limp Park the catty all crooked when I parallel my shit I'm just a ghetto kid, will have his dreams Lighting gasoline, Lakers courtside, you could ask Kareem That's church service, Milano, and Big Ghosts H, what you got for us today? Young Lady's name is Ray Black And the song is called Mine

Always laugh with you Mess around with you like a child with you Don't wanna grind you know Wanna build me up In a house settled down You bring the fire, I bring the sun When I'm with you, feels like I'm home Feels like we fun Are you playing games with my heart? Like you don't know That I'm bout' you, you know I ain't buggin', I know But you know everybody That comes to the party That ain't doin' us no favors I know I'm somebody I don't need nobody

But that I won't ask somebody questions Why do we fall into a battle? I never let this happen Why do we fall into a battle? We're doing too much damage I can't read your mind I ain't tryna ask you, you just gotta say it, you're mine On the way with your main bitch, yeah, yeah, I'm that On the claim, it's your main one, put a name on it Can't run from the right one, cause you pop right now But you know it's not great if you like it

You bring the fire, I bring the sun When I'm with you feels like I'm home Feels like we won Are you playing games in my heart Like you don't know That I'm about you, you know I ain't back in that room Why, yeah

Do we fall into a pack I never let this happen Why, do we fall into a bet? I never let this happen Why, do we fall into a bet? We're doing too much damage I can't read your mind, I ain't tryna ask you You just gotta say it, you're mine But you know everybody that comes to the party That ain't doing us no favor I know I'm somebody, I don't need nobody

But that all just a night question But you know everybody that comes to the party That ain't doing us no favors I know I'm somebody, I don't need nobody But then I wonder, so my questions Why do we fall into a bed? I never let this happen Why do we fall into a bed, we're doing too much damage I can't breathe, you're mine, I ain't tryna pass you You just gotta say you're mine This chick named Ray Black, she like them

I do it falling to a bat I never let this happen My eye Knew it falling to a bat We're doing too much damage I can't read your mind I ain't trying to pass you You just gotta say it You're mine It is Ray Black with Mind.

Dope record. Hello. Hey, yo. Hello. Hey, Ish, did you just walk away after your sleeper? Like, as it was ending? You thought you were Steph Curry? Like, you ain't give us a little more commentary on the artist, the song that we was all vibing and grooving to.

You just dipped out. Serf really just left the sour patches on the white couch. Yeah, that was a mic drop. He was just like, yeah, walk the fuck off. Yeah, I know. I know. It still ain't came back. It still ain't back.

It's cool. All right, man. Hey, yeah. Rest in peace, Tony Thompson. I think that was the lead singer's name on High Five. Yo, real good part. I hope y'all enjoyed yourself out there We got gang back here

Glad to see Surf make it back safe and sound Did what he had to do out here so there was no clowning him I told him no coming back if you lost to JC And he did what he had to do, man Glad to see Ish here after the Cowboy Giant game Thank you for joining us, man, we appreciate you Awesome Let me hear you out there

Oh, man We'll get it together one day Yo, keep us in your prayers, Lord knows we need to be there Listen It's such a good time Yes, it is And when you get next to me you make my heart beat fast you do me bad with your smile and with your smile you want to sing along before

nigga shut up come on little lights gonna answer get your shit off ish Anthem, get your shit off, ish Wait a minute Man, keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there Until the next time I bid you adieu Farewell, adios

Hasta la vista Arrivederci Au revoir, so long, goodbye Goddamn, breath control Kicking my ass Wait a minute Remember life is a series Of moments and moments pass.

So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Also, check me out on AMP each and every Monday and Thursday from 5 to 7 Eastern Standard Time. And it's New York fall. It's Scully season. It's hoodie season. Men, protect your closets out there hey inflation hit everywhere them hoodies are expensive

she just grabbing the n1 hoodie you know changes grabbing the fucking Russell hoodie anymore oh they want the good one yeah no oh we're talking about it y'all hold it down man September is leaving like it has somewhere to be we will be in october before you know it we love each and every one of y'all and it go is this another babyface production this This record? Oh, Teddy Riley. Teddy Riley. Them two niggas together? I don't think I've had an amp session where I didn't play a Babyface written record.

I'm sure. Honestly. Like, he is the man, man. Shout out to Babyface. He got a new album coming soon, too. Hey. Hey. Yo. Feel, baby. Hey. Hey. Yo, after Summer Madness was over,

what battle rappers was getting pussy in North Carolina? And what battle rappers wasn't? I don't know. I left. Well, what the group chats were saying, the battle rap group chats. I didn't know fucking battle rap group chats. Yes, you are. You and a few battle rap group chats. I ain't no fucking battle rap group chat. Yes, you are.

You and a few battle rap group chats. Yo, even if that's a lie, that's perfect to clown on. Help me. No, you and a few battle rap group chats. Come on, let's just make up names. Let's make up the names of these group chats. I was going there. All right, fuck y'all.

Hey. All right, fuck y'all, niggas. Hey! Shout out to the Patroni. Shout out to YouTube. Shout out to wherever you might be. Hey! We gone, yo. Till next time. I love the way you love me.

Yeah, real niggas do the ad-libs on the outro. I love the way, baby. I like, I like the way. I love the way. I like the way. I like the way. Yeah, yeah. Best bod in the world.

That's without the streaming farm. That's without the gamer niggas. That's without pandering to the right. Hold on a minute. That's good. That's without pandering to the right. One minute! I'm a bunny Let it ride out drop the drums out This is the first version of their 40 underwater shit just drop the drums out let the chorus ride Let me give him some new ad-libs over this I like the way I hang. Yeah, Ish, I'm a real musician.

I know the words to the end of the song. I'm not you. I don't get my sleepers from Alex, nigga. Respect me. When I got a sleeper from Alex. Respect me, nigga. Mad times. Mad times.

Mad times you got a sleeper from respect me, man, it's on the mad times mad times you got a sleeper from Alex nigga Play partnership I mistake I play y'all's to Uh, did he? No, for daddy. New ice and ice. Play Park Street by mistake, I'd play yours too. No, Joe Ben. Ow.