The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 604 | "Enjoy Homeboy"

Episode Date: February 22, 2023

The JBP kicks off this episode recapping their past few days before diving into their opinions on NBA All-Star Weekend in Utah (16:35). A video of YSL Woody allegedly snitching has been released which... leads into a conversation surrounding street culture (50:46). Boosie cancels a potential collab album with T.I. (1:19:38), Jonathan Majors’ recent photoshoot for Ebony Magazine has sparked controversy (1:32:20), the advancement of artificial intelligence (2:15:30), + MORE! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP.: Tap in here www.patreon.com/JoeBudden   Sleeper Picks: Joe | Nicole Bus - “Rain” Ice | Yung Bleu - “Games Women Play” Parks | Styles P - “Porsche Lights” Ish | Mario (feat. Ty Dolla $ign) - “Used To Me” Melyssa Ford | Th&o. - “Prosecco” QueenzFlip | MASTERPIECE QUY | "Move On (QuyMIx)"

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. I didn't know you guys were going to continue
Starting point is 00:00:30 to be amazing like that. I'm sorry. Jesus Christ. So I don't think, I've never seen Pokemons on anything. But I guess it would be acid or mushrooms.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Okay. What was the craziest thing you saw? I didn't see anything. It would just be like plants would the craziest thing you saw? I didn't see anything. It would just be like plants would be like, you kind of like. I didn't see shit when I was on like, you know, the hero's journey with mushrooms. The hero's journey? The hero's journey is when you take a full dose where like I micro dose to manage like, you know, anxiety and depression and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:01:01 So like I take mushrooms almost daily you know but it's only like a hundred milligrams but like the hero's dose like it's a huge amount at once and I went to like Colorado the mountains rented a cabin for this experience I've never done a hero's dose I don't think maybe maybe I did that just didn't know it was a hero's dose but yeah I was looking for the trees to start talking to me fucking grass nothing happened okay all right yeah that was my little thc yeah yeah call it a day man give me some wawa coffee y'all can have all that other shit we good we good god bless you both yeah yeah hey man m4ge hey if you saw a flip if if you could take something To see the Pokemons
Starting point is 00:01:45 Would you do it? Nah I'm good Nah Nah I don't believe you I definitely don't believe him I think I may lose my mind No
Starting point is 00:01:53 You niggas just look free Lose? I love you bro I'm sorry You see him right? It was right there What? It was right there at the red
Starting point is 00:02:02 Pause See? That vampire bracelet Got you losing your mind. When you came in, the air went out. Fuck out of here, man. I don't want to get you far. If we can take a drug and be in the same room and you guys can make sure a nigga, I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:02:21 But I'm not. I never took a drug a day in my life. I got to make sure I'm good. You never even smoke weed? I had to trip sit somebody before'm not, I never took a drug a day in my life. Y'all gotta make sure I'm good. You never even smoked weed? I had to trip sit somebody before. No, I never did a drug. I did it. I have to be around people.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Like, if y'all can make a flip, we got you. Oh, yeah. That's how you should do it, yeah. No, no, no, no, no. You gotta be like in here. I know y'all ain't gonna let me destroy this shit.
Starting point is 00:02:38 If they catch you, I can go in the woods. This shit here costs too much. This shit here costs too much. It costs too much in here. Yeah, they don't wanna fuck that up. You be out in the woods. They could be having their phone out.
Starting point is 00:02:47 What are you, this dumbass nigga? Eating the grass. Nigga, Joe would be standing. You see like this. Give me that. I told him not to do it. Welcome. For the people listening, he's doing some type of theatrical dance.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Yo. Maybe from his tribe. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's God, yeah. No, I'm good. I'm scared of that shit. Good to see you all.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Likewise. Good to see you. Good to see you all. I felt like we haven't seen each other in a minute. Or, I don't know why. It was a holiday weekend. Why do I be feeling like that sometimes? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:17 It's usually when a bunch of shit happened on the weekend. Or, like, from the last time we recorded. Yeah. Yeah, it could be. It was also a long weekend. True. Ish. Same a long weekend-ish. Same weekend as we always have. You know what?
Starting point is 00:03:30 No, President's Day Monday. I don't celebrate that. Oh, me neither. Me neither. Same for me. Just a Monday. One of the presidents next president. Oh, shit, I still need to know when the banks is closed. That too.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Fuck you all talking about. Yeah. That too. Got a lot of deposits what type of podcast would y'all like to have today let me be clear asking that let me just say if I'm handing out progress reports man this pod has been spectacular as of late I'm willing to be the Swiss Army knife and be whatever type of podcaster I need to be today for this to be amazing. You brothers and sisters seem like you're in a
Starting point is 00:04:08 great mood, as am I. What are we going? We going jokey jokey, serious serious, right board, left board. Tell me so I can adapt. We're in the middle today. I feel like left board. We good enough to balance.
Starting point is 00:04:23 We good enough to balance. I see what you want, my brother. Yeah, what's up, man? I think two of us need balance. Normally, whatever Ish is on kind of dictates the mood of the pond for me. There you go. That's not. Oh, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Just see. We just. I know. I know. There you go. I'm serious. I'm not joking. Wait, what I did.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Stop doing that, bro. What did I do wrong? Stop putting on Ish. Stop doing that. My man just checked you in the kitchen about that. And I checked you. Who checked me in the kitchen? Freeze just talking about that.
Starting point is 00:04:44 You keep talking about yo whatever you and Ish want to do to Melissa. Oh yeah yeah yeah he did check me. He did check me. Stop. He did check me.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I feel like Leftboard is more like topical for Patreon and this is just like this is the most recent shit. You getting a man up there now. This is what you
Starting point is 00:04:58 call not a sauce up. This is what you call M4. Are we breaking the eighth wall? Sorry guys. I didn't acknowledge
Starting point is 00:05:03 the fact that Joe has gave her and Ish, what's that shit? Yo, you might be a rat, yo. Might? You think might? Might? There ain't no might about it. Rat.
Starting point is 00:05:14 That's what you gonna say? Everything ain't for everybody. You see the shit you be saying? Yo, house business, stay in house. You see the shit you be saying? Got mad as hell, yeah, nigga. Got him in my basket. Fuck out.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Shout out to the new monetization rules Or we could do what we do here best It's the JVP, which is Ignore them Ignore everything Just do our own shit, right? Like, fuck it Mic check, one, two, one, two, mic check Salutations, feels good to be back
Starting point is 00:05:51 I miss you, brothers and sisters Starting this off, Libery's recommendation today Like he's somebody, but I listen to him I don't ever do that, but you gotta be open Gotta be open Shout out to Carl Thomas yo I did a lot of y'all a favor by not covering that rock nation brunch I'ma just be honest man a few few of my day one listeners hit me like Joe I know you've seen this come on I was like all right man yeah you got me i skipped it
Starting point is 00:06:26 hey that's one of the perks of being a broadcaster you get to skip what you want to skip buddy hey you want to talk about it you start a podcast maybe i'll check it out all right just feeling like an honest podcast today fuck, I'm here to tell some of the truth Some of the truth Alright Uh, Big Flip, Queens in the building, he awake He just look like that, you know, fat niggas Alright, that's not how Ish told me to start, let me get back on my grizzly Here we go
Starting point is 00:07:07 Nigga, Ish had fun when this record was out. He was a lot less wrinkled. This nigga wasn't bald and shit. When this one was out right here. It wasn't coming out in Black Timbs when this one was out. Cause it go. The white van was moving man big parks in the building grammy nominated two of us huh we not them we not them huh hey big man what up man shout out to all the ladies out there they still coming in they still coming in Big Mel, what up, Mel? Ow! Shout out to all the ladies out there.
Starting point is 00:07:47 They still coming in. They still coming in. Big Freeze, huh? It could get cold at the drop of a dime. Drop of a dime, huh? Y'all thought Ant-Man was bad. Hey! It was.
Starting point is 00:08:08 You ain't gonna always be a slap. What? You'll always be a slap. And it'll get him up. In the middle It's not good when I'm alone I feel hurt inside It's not good when she's gone I can't wait till she gets home That's my girl, Joe, bud I can't wait till she gets home. That's my girl, Joe, bud. Hey. She kind of forced you to move your hips a little bit. Hey.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Flip, you don't fuck with this? Don't do that. I got to cut it off. He about to go crazy. Look, now I'm fucking. It's over. All right. Chill, chill I'm fucking... I don't mind. All right, now chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. If it rains, let it rain on me.
Starting point is 00:08:57 He about to go crazy just now. Let him get his shit off, yo. If it rains, let it rain on me. I don't mind. I don't mind It rains for me I ain't gonna hold you ever since you ruined the other record I can't hear nobody say rain on me without thinking they talking about something else, Noah Mmm, you disgusting First of all, you disgusting
Starting point is 00:09:20 You brought it to my attention Little water sports What's up? You brought it to my attention. Little water sports. Microphone check. One, two, what is this? This is episode 603. Four. 604 of the Joe Budden Podcast.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, and highly favored host, Joe Budden, here with a few of my nearest and dearest. Sister Mel is here. Brother Flip is here. Ish is here. Ice is here. Parks is here. JR is here.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Erickson is here in the back. Gang is all here. How's everybody doing? How's everybody feeling? Amazing. How was your weekend? How's your mental health? How's everything? Everything is back up. It's cool up what you was down yeah you know you get the little
Starting point is 00:10:10 the winter the winter the winter buckets a little funk but snap right back out i'm back yo you got to look in the mirror yo and tell yourself yo don't ever get yourself down don't ever let yourself get slowed down by the momentum of life yo yo. Only you can pull yourself up. Get yourself out of there. Yeah. That's your own shit. Pow. No more depression.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I said that's what you did. That's what you did? No, that ain't what I did. Oh. Yeah. How's everybody weekend? Anybody do something fun? I went to the gun range.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Oh, that's always fun. Yeah. That was my first time. Really? In life ever yes yes what'd you shoot um a nine millimeter okay handgun yep and um any rifles no no no no no i'm not there yet okay because my hand is still sore from the handguns so i did not try the shotguns or the rifles
Starting point is 00:11:05 just yet okay and the other one was another big gun I don't know 357 okay nice yeah look at this look of approval on your face I have video I'm gonna post it later that's exciting yeah I never bet really we should do that that's what I was thinking and right. I should do paintball to where you've never been to the gun range That shit is therapeutic. You can have that nigga pop pop Another shotguns and doors like that Pardon me, Mr. Marlboro. Walker, Texas, Ranger. Cuckoo, cuckoo, Mrs. Robinson. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Okay. Whoa. You got a super thug in your Serato? Easy. No, bang, bang. Easy, super cat. Super cat. You are the Don Dada. easy super cat damn super cat you are the Don Donner
Starting point is 00:12:07 but anyway yeah we do all need to go yeah it's a great date spot it's a great date spot that's what I thought really
Starting point is 00:12:15 I've never taken a date you went on a date no I was not on a date no I wasn't so that's when you thought that's what you thought went then
Starting point is 00:12:22 when I was there I was like this would be fun as a date. Listen, boy. I listened back to the last part. I said, I'm taking it easy on Mel. I'm taking it easy on Mel.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Yep, I'm with her. Just leaving it right there. Great date spot. Great date spot. We should all go. You should go. Learn how to defend yourself. How was your weekend bro
Starting point is 00:12:45 seriously what it was good actually did you do work uh went out on went out on Friday to Pergola
Starting point is 00:12:53 oh then Saturday I went my man um uh works for Tyler Perry he premiered a movie at a movie premiere
Starting point is 00:13:02 in Jersey so I did that on Saturday shout to him. The movie's called Love Karma. Nice. And then Sunday, I ain't do shit. Staying in the house
Starting point is 00:13:11 and watch the All-Star Game. Good. That's a disappointing Sunday. Word. All-Star Game is caca. Trash. Is the All-Star Game... Ah, ah, ah.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I set all you niggas up. Once ah. I set all you niggas up. Once again. I set all you niggas up on purpose. Once again. And if this keep going on, it's going to be a problem. You falling right into that, man. You should be ashamed of yourself. We came the same time.
Starting point is 00:13:39 You falling right into the buffoonery with these people. Pardon us, fam. How was your weekend? How was your weekend, though? My weekend was horrible. Oh, damn. What them niggas was doing in weekend? How was your weekend, bro? My weekend was horrible. Oh, damn. Oh, damn. What the niggas was doing in Rockaway?
Starting point is 00:13:48 You know what I'm saying? I'm not from Rockaway. I know. But I read one piece this weekend that was good. But I read that my weekend was horrible. And that was even more horrible because of my co-host, what you guys are doing. You know what I'm saying? And, man, I'm disappointed in you.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I'm going to get at you later. You guys should know better. There's five people in here. We go around the room you weekend how you weekend how you weekend but I'm happy to see that y'all's was good I'm sorry that your weekend was horrible man pardon me is there anything we could do to make your life better today fuck you damn shit hold on let me see Hold on, let me see. How was your weekend? Can't nobody take my phone. Can't nobody hold me down.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Oh, no. I got to keep on moving. You can't get me today, man. I'm trying to. I'm chilling. I told you, I missed all of y'all. You did say that. Somewhere around that Sunday night. I was like, damn, I wonder what these niggas is doing out there.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I almost called some of y'all. You did say that. Somewhere around that Sunday night, I was like, damn, I wonder what these niggas is doing out there. I almost called some of y'all. All-Star game was that bad. It's like, I might have called some niggas, man. You want to get the Splash Brothers in the game? Yo, I got to tell you, man, we were out Friday,
Starting point is 00:14:56 and this is the second weekend in a row I went out. I remember during the pandemic, I made a prediction that, like, after the pandemic is kind of over, everyone's just going to be outside fucking. Is that what they're doing?
Starting point is 00:15:08 They're looking for it. Really? Maybe I should go outside. They're outside looking for the snatch? Why, in America? All America. It's wild out there. Go out and have a good time.
Starting point is 00:15:22 That's all I'm saying. They're having sex outside. No, not having sex outside no not having sex they're looking to take people to their place maybe or maybe they look in the link what about outside is making you say yeah that that's what it looks like it's just the energy it's the energy they was coming at him is that what's happening six six curly not just me not just me they don't know what the fucking podcast is because i'm just wondering how a married man Mr. 6'6", Curly A. Not just me. Not just me. Mr. Grammy-dominated. It got nothing to do with that. They don't know what the fucking podcast is.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Because I'm just wondering how a married man can feel that energy. I'd be out with my wife and they'd be out. Oh, they're trying to get with both of you? Yes. Wow. That would be interesting. Would you and your wife ever be down for something like that? A little too long for us to have this break.
Starting point is 00:16:03 For the all-star game? I'm just saying, go outside, guys. Enjoy yourself. Okay. Enjoy yourself. I'm going to take you up on that if you're single. You think that's okay?
Starting point is 00:16:10 Tell a black man how to live in February. Hey, hey. My bad, my bad, my bad. The nerve, the nerve. While wearing black. You can say that shit in nine days, all right?
Starting point is 00:16:21 Hey, in March, you can tell us how to do this. He saw the dunk contest. Maybe he can't get some shit off. You know what I mean? Uh-huh. Hey, in March, you can tell us how to do this. He saw the dunk contest. Maybe he can't get some shit off. Now, man. Come on, y'all keep trying to get to it, so let's just get right to it.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Let's get right to it. But getting right to it, for me, it does not start at Friday. It don't start at Friday. Come on, because I'm coming in kind of hot about this, actually. We're going to talk about All-Star Weekend. All-Star Weekend. Huh? I'm saying NBA All-Star Weekend. Where does it start for me?
Starting point is 00:16:51 It starts with me looking at y'all after that Friday podcast and said or the two, it was the Friday podcast the one right before and said we didn't talk about the All-Star game. It was Tuesday. Whenever it was,
Starting point is 00:17:06 I knew that we had not spoken about anything related to the All-Star game. Facts. Dunk contests. Three-point contests. Ads, sponsors, the selection, the fans. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Nothing. Zilch. That was alarming. Yeah. That was alarming. Yeah. That was alarming. Because what it said to me was, you know, a lot of times when these companies want to get a message out, they know who to go to. They go to their little metric cards, and they know who to go to to get a message out. It was alarming that me and us, the NBA's core audience, really either didn't know when All-Star weekend was or wasn't really concerned.
Starting point is 00:17:52 I didn't know. Remember I told you. I was like, oh shit, that's this weekend? I thought it was next weekend. I did not know when All-Star weekend was. I didn't see nothing that, usually we kind of know. Like, yo, All-Star coming up. We got this.
Starting point is 00:18:04 We got that. Maybe it's because it was in Utah? Nah. I don't know. We're going to get into all of it. I, yo, All-Star coming up. We got this. We got that. Maybe it's because it was in Utah? No. Well, we're going to get into all of it. I don't be knowing where it's at. I want to unpack all of this. I do think that that is a contributing factor. That it was in Utah? Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Yes. But I want to unpack all of it. OK. I had absolutely nothing to do this weekend. Like, I want to preface this With that I was with my girl Home
Starting point is 00:18:30 Easily could have just cut the TV on But I forgot about this shit Friday I'm just scrolling Happen to see it They got the celebrity game on It's DJ DK Metcalf out there dunking on Everybody that can walk everybody's all scattered
Starting point is 00:18:48 around it's looking like it's just looking like now you ever go to the club and feel like you're the old nigga at the club yeah i felt like i was the old nigga watching this new version we a long way from mtv rock and jock yeah Or just the days where something about the celebrity game made you actually want to watch the celebrity game. Whether that be six-pointers, ten-pointers. Hot spots. They start making up shit.
Starting point is 00:19:17 They put trampolines out there. They was doing all types of shit back in the day. Or just wild team pairings. I don't know, but whatever. It's a friday night so i'm not gonna pay this too much money saturday we gets here now mind you i'm a nick fan so i've already seen that jericho sims is in the dunk contest which for what you big doof you big fucking doof and that's my man but as Nick fan, if you in the dunk contest,
Starting point is 00:19:46 something's wrong here. I didn't even know who else was in it. As a Nick fan, I saw Julius Randle enter the three-point contest. I don't know who else is in the three-point contest. But I know that Julius Randle
Starting point is 00:19:58 should not be in the three-point contest. It's little things like this that's saying to me, oh, y'all don't even care if I'm watching this shit. I think the players don't give a fuck about it like that no more. What happens now is the players don't.
Starting point is 00:20:12 They used to market the three-point contest and the dunk contest. Now they are begging niggas to enter the dunk contest. They beg John Morant to enter the dunk contest. He said, no, never. So even from a personal standpoint, my nephew playing the G.
Starting point is 00:20:29 My nephew was the number three vote getter. He led the G League in scoring. He killing. He didn't get selected to the Rise and Shine shit. They selected Mack McClung instead of him because Mack McClung is in the dunk contest. Mack McClung, no disrespect. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Killed it. What a weekend you had. Definitely deserving of it. Like, you won that shit. I've never seen that. He killed it. Two-handed, five-sixes. I've never seen none of them shit.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I've never seen some of that shit he did. He ain't the tallest. He had a perfect run. Literally. Outside of that 149 that Lisa Leslie gave him. And he ugly as hell. So to see somebody
Starting point is 00:21:09 winning, you had to showcase them so we could keep seeing this ugly nigga talk. Like, what an ugly type of hillbilly ugly. I'm off. I'm bugging out. That nigga was...
Starting point is 00:21:25 It's hard to be like a hill... Anyway. So that was good. They brought his ugly ass out there the next day had him introduce some shit. Hey. He was just looking doofy and stupid. But congratulations to him.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Dog, why am I looking at Mack McClung and whoever else was in that dunk? Why am I even looking at y'all? It's a slap in the face. I don't know, man. Who's promoting this? Who's the sponsor of this? I understand that sentiment, but I went and looked at all the dunk champions of all time.
Starting point is 00:21:58 There was mad nobodies in them shits. Mad nobodies. Yeah, but that's the thing though. The cachet went down for the dunk contest. Like back in the day, stars was in the dunk contest. Dee Brown wasn't like a star.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Cedric Sabalos at that time wasn't a star. Darnell Hillman. He's a winner what year? The second year. The first year was Dr. J. No, I'm talking about. I'm just going to go down the list of a couple people outside from the stars. I mean, Spud Webb wasn't really a star.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Let's be clear. Kenny Walker, Dee Brown, Cedric Sabalos. He was a borderline star, I guess. Harold Miner, Isaiah Ryder were not stars. Brent Berry was not a star uh desmond mason fred jones josh smith but that's when it started to dip it started to dip toward like the last probably 10 years the all-star i mean the dunk contest and all that shit ain't been nothing and then when steph and them are not in the three-point contest, it don't really have the same luster. I hear your list.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Yeah. For that, I'll say we still broke that competition off the back of Dr. J. Fair. Commercially. Fair. We also broke that off of Jordan versus Dominique twice. Kobe Bryant did the dunk contest.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Like, there was a time where... Vince Carter. Larry Johnson. There was a time where theant did the dunk contest like there was a time carter larry johnson there was there was a time where the stars did the dunk contest we don't even have to spend too much time here because there's some there's floating theories on that right uh steven a is uh on first take saying that lebron single-handedly killed the dunk contest for being mad that they didn't make him an all-star his rookie year, but they wanted him to do the dunk contest. Rookie year. He's been 19-time all-star.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I don't love that. He's 20th season. Sprite, he was signed to Sprite at the time. Sprite was sponsoring the dunk contest at the time, so you know they offered to pay him, and he still said, no, fuck that. And you haven't really seen a known star do it since. But that's cool
Starting point is 00:24:05 i'm not here to talk about that that's not my concern okay my concern is tnt not tnt the nba y'all have y'all deals cut wherever y'all have them cut that's where that's where i am with this kia um wherever they deals is cut some of them deals have to be up sometime soon so y'all should be this should be the time where you kicking it up letting us know what your product is really it's really looking like when you kick up so i just think it's a really bad allocation of of money whatever money they spent they spent it in the wrong fucking spot let me ask you a question though joe how do you kick it up if the players don't want to, like the marquee players? Well, that's why this is nuanced here because I'm not only blaming that.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Adam Silver is to be called to the carpet, too, here, because the NBA, for all the times we applaud them for being a player league, this is one of the moments where you fail because you're a player league. Adam Silver no longer requires them to arrive on Friday for All-Star weekend. So you can show up Saturday. Okay. Some of them, they say, don't show up till Sunday. What, that are playing?
Starting point is 00:25:18 The All-Star, the people that are participating in the weekend. Yeah. They say they're much more concerned with utilizing that time off from playing. Yeah, it's a break. Vacation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Side chick here and there. Well, that's an overarching issue with the NBA in general is vacations, what do they call it?
Starting point is 00:25:37 Rest, the veterans rest and all that shit. Yeah. Load management. Load management. Yeah, load management. Load management. Y'all can no longer run out there and procure all of these brand deals off the backs of people without paying them, especially in the age of the NIL and all types of other shit.
Starting point is 00:25:55 You can't do that no more. So I think you're right, but I think— That All-Star game looked like shit. It was a slap in the face to viewers. It was. I cut that shit off. To customers. I cut that shit off. To customers. I cut that shit off. I didn't look at that shit.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Are you kidding me? So when this halftime got there, I was like, all right, enough. And I went and cut Last of Us on. But they shot 133 three-pointers. To my point, last week, back in the day, when Jordan and Dominique and them were in the dunk contest, dog, they was making $3 million. So if you took
Starting point is 00:26:26 home $150,000, $200,000 purse from winning the dunk contest, that was significant. Today, these kids are getting $40 million. I don't give a fuck. If you're giving me a million dollars to be in the dunk contest, I don't want nothing to do with that. I don't want to enjoy myself out there on vacation.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I make $40 million. Your little extra $500 grand, your little extra million, I little extra mil I'm not gonna see that and not just that ish the potential to hurt myself get hurt yeah go out here and flop or look not look good like these kids care about the image images image is important I'm not going out here and losing to this nigga either that's true so no I agree with that. I think it was a lot of that. Like nowadays, you can't take the L. Even the threes,
Starting point is 00:27:08 like dog, they shooting threes because nobody want to risk going to the hole getting hurt. I'm going to just keep pulling up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:16 You know what I'm saying? It's just different. I think the money, the money has changed the NBA sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. And maybe social media too
Starting point is 00:27:26 absolutely these players today are way more image conscious I'm not going in a dunk contest oh he in there too I might lose I might go in here and bomb now I'm getting memed and I'm trending and they killing me
Starting point is 00:27:41 they care about their social media presence used to be competitive. I always loved competing in them. I didn't lose many of them. Fans want to see the best pickup game in the world. They want to see you running up and down and dunking and doing all this crazy stuff. Who's this? Kobe. What happens when you get this collection of the best basketball players on the planet?
Starting point is 00:27:58 All-star game. Need some revamping. And you go head up against each other. I mean, you guys play harder at a pickup game in UCLA. For real. And ain't billions of people watching really You're right. Yeah, he's right and that's the slap in the face for I don't care what Tatum and Jalen Brown are out there Having this little one-on-one battle in the first half. I don't care about none of that shit
Starting point is 00:28:17 I thought it was kind of poetic justice for LeBron to have hurt himself on a defensive play That's how I felt like oh finally Finally somebody tried to block something. Yeah. Good point. That shit was a mess out there. That shit was so bad, they might as well never let the Joker be an all-star. That's true.
Starting point is 00:28:36 If y'all going to put on that horrible exhibition, then the Joker is out there for what? For nothing. Because he look like a bum out there doing that. That's true. That don't highlight his skill set at all. Nobody out there for him. I have a kicker in my contract that if I make the all-star,
Starting point is 00:28:54 it triggers something else to happen. No, I get money. That's it. You make money. That's all. It's incentives. This doesn't do anything for the record. This doesn't do anything for anything else.
Starting point is 00:29:01 I'm just going to get this incentive. Yeah, but that's the other problem. That's the other problem. I'm unpacking to get this. Yeah, but that's the other problem. That's the other problem. I'm unpacking all this shit. Yeah, let's get it. In baseball, that all-star game means something. It determines home court, home field for the World Series. Yep.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Really? Yes. Yeah. So they be trying to win that motherfucker. Oh, I didn't know that. That's a fairly new rule, though. Fairly new. I like that, though.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Make it mean something. Because they ran into the same problem. It was a boring-ass performance. No one cared about anything but the home run derby. That's true. The NBA needs to adopt
Starting point is 00:29:35 something like that just to add a little more incentive. One, they need to talk to their, whoever is in charge of getting all the celebrities there. Y'all had all the celebrities there that needed to be there, and I just think they all were misutilized. Every last one of them.
Starting point is 00:29:51 In what way? Because back in the day, pardon me for answering for you, but back in the day, like the celebrity game, I don't know who played in the celebrity game this year. And maybe we are older, so we don't give a fuck. played in a celebrity game this year and maybe we are honestly we don't give a fuck when i saw the contestants of the celebrity game and it's not like i stayed on the channel for very long the few that i saw i was like who the fuck is that who the fuck is that who the fuck is that maybe we old to know we don't know who they are but when we were younger you kind of put yourself in that spot like when you were 22 and you see somebody that's 22 out there dribbling, you're like, damn,
Starting point is 00:30:26 I wonder what that feels like. That goes back to the social media age too. Like if I'm Cardi B or Bad Bunny, like do I need to go do this? No, I have way more opportunities to present myself to the world. I don't need to go out here
Starting point is 00:30:37 and dribble a ball like a goof. And the money changes things. Yeah. Back in the day, you was looking forward to that bag or that exposure. Today, they don't necessarily need that bag and that exposure that the All-Star game will provide.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Well, they've been tankering around with this whole team LeBron, team whoever, Greek freak. Tanner just informed me that MLB took away that decides the World Series shit, by the way. Oh, did they take that away? Damn, they should have kept it. That was stupid. Well, why the hell did they take that away? I don't know. That sucks.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah. Like, even the pickup game format, I like that they tried to tweak something to make it a little more exciting. I like the East versus West better, though. Yeah, but it was so stacked at one point. So what's it feel like to finally win this thing? We need a chicken dinner.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yo, dawg. I don't think it's funny. I don't think it chicken dinner. Yo, dawg, I don't think it's funny. I don't think it's funny. No, it's funny because it's bad. I don't think this is funny at all. What do you think he's doing? You think he's mocking the whole He just didn't give a fuck. That's all. He didn't even think of a clever
Starting point is 00:31:40 pun for the dog. That's why, you know, we clown LeBron for always lying. You got to respect it, though. But you understand why LeBron do that. Because he's LeBron. And any moment could be the brightest moment if you're dealing with LeBron.
Starting point is 00:31:58 All-Star weekend, you got our MVP on national TV while we trying to secure new deals all across the board to say winner winner chicken dinner maybe you're looking for a chicken sponsor I don't think it's funny but I mean I'm not an athlete but this is the
Starting point is 00:32:18 shit I sit here and talk with Zaire about or just the athletes about when I kick it with them this is a mess but now they probably don't care because for them I see what the NBA is doing. Y'all got a plan for when LeBron is not here. LeBron is getting out of here and y'all been pushing this foreign shit for a while now.
Starting point is 00:32:35 So Greek Freak, Joker, Luka, Embiid, Luka. I get what he doing. But this is a mess, yo. And back to Parks' earlier point, because I want to try to wrap some of this up. I don't think that this should be held a week after Super Bowl. I think it would behoove them to get far the fuck away from Super Bowl, figure out a new way to do it.
Starting point is 00:33:01 The lineup always used to be Super Bowl, Grammys, then All-Star. That's what it was, but it was quickly changed. The NFL season's longer now. That's true, too. You added that. That moved things in the NFL. That's true. You still got your season.
Starting point is 00:33:14 You still got your 17-week season. It also doesn't help coming off a bum-ass All-Star at the Pro Bowl for the NFL. Yeah, like the NFL Pro Bowl used to be after the Super Bowl. Yeah. Now it's before the Super Bowl, which is as stupid as shit. I never understood why they moved it. They should move it
Starting point is 00:33:30 to the middle of the season and give everyone an extra buy, essentially, except for the players. Anyway. It's a mess. Switching gears. It's a mess.
Starting point is 00:33:38 But the dollars. Dog. Well, they're going to have to have a dollars conversation. that's for people with the suits on that are way smarter than i i'm just telling you from a creative standpoint ways that y'all might have fixed this pro pro bono get it the fuck away from super bowl yeah that's that's just like so do they move but again like said, it wasn't always there, but the NFL season being longer moved the Super Bowl closer to them, technically. True.
Starting point is 00:34:10 All-Star's been right here at this point in time. It's always this Valentine's Day, essentially. All-Star's been right here. Yeah, I don't care. So I'm just saying, now that the Super Bowl comes here, you got to pick up and move? Move it. I don't care about what y'all saying.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Move it. One. Two. Make that shit more of. All-Star weekend is always, location is always a prime part of that. So let's look at the, counting last year, the next three All-Stars. Or these two are next year. Last year, y'all went to Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Not a sexy city. Respectfully, dog. This year, y'all went to Cleveland. Not a sexy city. Respectfully, dog. This year, y'all are in Utah. Respectfully. Next year, y'all are in Indianapolis. Respectfully. And from what they are reporting, all three of these cities donated some type of money to the league
Starting point is 00:35:01 at one point for the bid, which is why, you know, scratch my back, I scratch yours. That's cool, but don't play with your marquee weak in that way. And then Vegas has a bid for 2025, which we assume they'll get, and then you'll see the difference. It's like with the NFL. Then you'll see the difference. With the NFL for the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:35:21 only certain cities are even eligible to bid. With all due respect, no one wants to watch the Super Bowl or play a Super Bowl in Buffalo. You know what I'm saying? It won't happen. They're trying to change that. Why do you think that Utah was a problem? Because, I mean, several, about 10 years ago, maybe 15 years ago, it was in Park City.
Starting point is 00:35:39 And it's just like, when you're there, it is visually stunning. It's elite when you're there, it is visually stunning. You know, like it's elite ski country. It attracts. Already unpack elite ski country and what it means. Cocaine.
Starting point is 00:35:53 No, it's not what it means. Whatever it means is not going to be welcoming to all the people that you want welcomed on All-Star Week. It's not sexy. It's not sexy. Just get into the history of Utah. Period. Start there. And no, you're not going to get all of your NBA black, pro black crowd and audience to
Starting point is 00:36:13 come have a blast out here all weekend. Right. I'm saying that respectfully because Utah's beautiful. Yes. It is. But once I got to Utah, I learned, oh, there's other parts of Utah. Utah's big. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Yeah, it's big as hell. Yeah. So, no. Okay. All-Star weekend there. Eh. Utah learned oh there's other parts of Utah Utah's big yeah so no all-star weekend there eh you're just gonna see the difference
Starting point is 00:36:30 when it's held in LA when it's held in Philly when it's held in DC New York when it's held in New York when it's held in Chicago very true
Starting point is 00:36:38 it was brick in Chicago and it was still lit the whole weekend in Chicago major cities when they host these things for the weekend, they know how to do it, and there's no frequency silence because all weekend people was keeping it lit, keeping it lit.
Starting point is 00:36:53 When you turn on the TV, this all-star, you're seeing all the people that's lit. You're seeing Drewski. You're seeing this person. You're seeing that person. But this is the only place you're seeing them, and that is the end. Everybody just came to Utah on a private jet came to this shit got their brand deals off flew the fuck out there was no feeling or impact you didn't feel that at all yeah it wasn't lit
Starting point is 00:37:16 and the nba needs to do a redesign they need to fix it i think i think um and i never thought of it i think that them being so close to Super Bowl weekend definitely affected things because people can't afford to do both. The rich people can. So when you start talking about the private jets and all that other shit, yeah, they can. But the average commoner that used to go to the All-Star game, if you elected to go to Super Bowl, which looked amazing. Super Bowl looked crazy. It did. Right?
Starting point is 00:37:44 The Super Bowl was lit. You can't afford to now go spend another $3,000 to go to Utah Bowl which looked amazing. Super Bowl looked crazy. It did. Right? The Super Bowl was lit. You can't afford to now go spend another $3,000 to go to Utah. For that bullshit. The flights was expensive as shit. I was going to go. The flights were expensive
Starting point is 00:37:53 as fuck to go. So you can't go Super Bowl, boom. What's the number? What's the price star that scared you off? Oh shit, let me sit at home. No, time,
Starting point is 00:38:00 the conflict. Wasn't no price, right? Wasn't no price. Stop your shit. Wasn't no price, though. I was just asking him a question i'm asking him one too he won't answer me he said the prices was nah he changed his mind this was like 40 40 something niggas stayed home read a book
Starting point is 00:38:13 what book you read this nigga barnes and noble free right but yo again after nigga just spent money to go to super bowl you can't turn around a week later and go to all-Star game. Yes. Only certain people can do that. So now you take away all the commoners, the real fans, from going to the All-Star game. Dog, spend more money and pay the people that you're supposed to pay. What if they don't want it?
Starting point is 00:38:36 Pay the people that you're supposed to pay. I'm not talking about athletes. I'm talking about influencers, tastemakers, and the people that's going to get your shit fiery festival lit. Have that shit sexy somewhere. Yeah, that's it. Like even what you said. Now imagine All Star was in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Niggas is going to get there. I went there. I was there. No, I ain't going to Atlanta. I was there. But the people already are there. I told Dylan them niggas on the phone. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Have it somewhere sexy. Yo, drive down here. No, no, I understand. 16 hours, I know. On the phone. Yo, drive down here. No, no, I understand. 16 hours, I know. Take the drive. Come on. And they drove. It was worth it.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Yeah, that's how lit that was. Right. I can believe it. The last All-Star game I think I went to was... See, take that. Take that in your now versus then argument. Huh? Going places and events versus this digitized version of the event.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Take that. Take that. Take that. Anyways. Yeah, All-Star weekend. Y'all need to fucking throw that whole shit in the trash. That was terrible, man. That was trash.
Starting point is 00:39:41 I watched the dunk contest, but that was about it. I watched a little bit of the three-point. I saw the three-point. I was pulling for Dame, and he won. I like that. That was it. See watched the dunk contest, but that was about it. I watched a little bit of the three-point. I saw the three-point. I was pulling for Dame, and he won. Yeah. I like that. That was it. See, even with that, no disrespect to Dame, because Dame is Dame.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Dame is Dame. Dame is Dame. But everybody wants to see Steph. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? It's Clay. If you had Dame, Clay, Steph in a shootout, niggas is locked in. Locked in.
Starting point is 00:40:06 They locked in. I feel you. You can't market Halliburton. You know what I'm saying? Like, no disrespect, because he's a monster. He went off. Now you sound like Wally Zervia. No, he's a monster.
Starting point is 00:40:15 31 in the first round, I was like. Halliburton is a monster, bro. What I'm saying is that's not marketable to the fan. Niggas want to see Steph. Yeah. That's just it. Like, they want to see Steph. There's been some sketchy,
Starting point is 00:40:27 not sketchy, less popular three-point winners. Yeah, but I said, the fans, if John Morant was in a dunk contest, niggas was glued onto their TV. For sure. They glued into their TV.
Starting point is 00:40:37 They want to see what he's going to do. So they tried to, I think even with the Matt McClung thing, they started marketing him. Oh, and glued to the Pacers exit strategy. How they going to leave this one? No, like, yo, they, without the player participation, the NBA got a hard time.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Who was judging the- Yo, I'm sorry. No. Who is judging the... Yo, I'm sorry. No. I almost want to say that players union renegotiation is coming up soon with them. They're going to start forcing them to be in it. Or trying to.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Dog, let me tell you something. This is where that Zaire conversation comes into play about just rights and uh licensing and ownership if i know that y'all is due up for this new tv streaming deals and all this shit and our union agreement is over i'm sticking y'all up i'm sticking them up of course if i'm a player say of course but it never happened no the nba sticksall up. I'm sticking them up. Of course. If I'm a player. Say of course, but it never happened. No, the NBA sticks them up. No, I'm about to say the NBA. I'm talking about the players. No, the players.
Starting point is 00:41:48 The NBA players robbing them. Dog, their salaries doubled in the last five, six years. Yeah, we might need to do a lot more now. It will. I'm just saying, the NBA sticks them up, bro. Are y'all getting a new TV deal? Or do our salaries need to be doubled? Bro, you got jokers that you'll never even get off the bench making $11 million. That you don't even know exist. We're going getting a new TV deal? Our salaries need to be double. But our joke is that you'll never even get off the bench making $11 million.
Starting point is 00:42:07 That you don't even know exists. We're going to see. $9 million, $11 million. The knife me. So I want to get off All-Star weekend, but I do have to laugh at this because this is funny. Well, actually, this part is not funny. So there's a statue of Karl Malone outside of Utah. Now...
Starting point is 00:42:28 That was where I was going with that. Y'all can look up Karl Malone and what happened with him. I didn't know the kid went on to play football for five seasons. I didn't know that. Karl Malone was 20 years old, impregnated a 13-year-old, got the fuck away from her, wanted nothing to do with the baby. The story's about, well, you know he was about to be a pro athlete, so take from that what
Starting point is 00:42:54 you want. Meets the kid 17 years later, 17 years old, says, listen, dog, it's too late for me to be a dad to you. You got to go get it out the mug, get it on your own. That's some. Like, karma alone. You just put pieces of shit on top of the pieces of shit that you guys was. Yeah, like it's a piece of shit Big Mac.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Now, the thing about that is. A piece of shit Big Mac. Yeah, a piece of shit Big Mac. Yeah. Yeah, triple decker. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Now, the thing about that is I also seen him when they showed him on the TV, and I want to be clear that I wouldn't say any of this stuff to his face. Ever. He still got shoulders? What? No, he still has everything. Bro. Karl Malone looked like he could go out there right this second.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Average 15. He looked like bigger LeBron. Like, LeBron is in great shape so standing next to LeBron he just like looked like a bigger slimmer version
Starting point is 00:43:49 of LeBron looking at him I maybe gotta put a little more respect on Karl Malone's professional career he's like the third leading scorer
Starting point is 00:43:58 of all time or some shit I can't take nothing away from his game but he was a dirtbag the term is rapist that's the term a rapist and then a dirtbag. Yeah, I'd like to see a game without John Stockton. The term is rapist.
Starting point is 00:44:06 That's the term. A rapist, and then a dirtbag after that. A shitty father, dirtbag. Yeah, absolutely. Compounded all. Yeah, but it's, yeah. But the NBA still called him up for the weekend. Said, yo, dawg, come on.
Starting point is 00:44:21 We need you right quick. But that speaks to the difference between the NBA and NFL. How? Because Michael Irvin got straight dropped off of every fucking thing in the NFL. Off of an accusation of harassment. Not even physically touching anybody. They wouldn't let him be a part of none of the festivities. Karl Malone out there, like, it's proven that this is your kid.
Starting point is 00:44:44 There's progeny running around that is proof of the act of rape you know what i'm saying like that's a big difference you're a dunk contest judge you right here on the screen smiling like talking to these different in fucking sane so they called so they called him up right and this is on sat Saturday or whatever day this was and then they called Kareem up and then they called Dwayne Wade up and they said the way way we need you to bring out LeBron James because he's the highest score in the world gonna bring these two other bum ass niggas out to and we're gonna make them stand on the left and the right you come out LeBron to do that dance my man
Starting point is 00:45:24 when y'all with the heatles that dance he did gonna do something like that you speak to his greatness we're gonna diss these other bum ass niggas take one group big group pic a group hug don't worry you'll never have to see these two niggas again we're not calling them after that and then we'll go on about our business and for some reason Kareem keeps coming because that's what Kareem got his varsity jacket on that says captain. Yeah, yeah. He went and they said and the captain Kareem brought him out
Starting point is 00:45:55 and now the nigga that was dubbed the chosen one got him the fuck out of here. That record don't even matter or exist. Forget Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's name from your memories. LeBron! Why do you take that call? That's all I'm saying. Why do they keep coming out?
Starting point is 00:46:10 So they got the little group pic. That was the end of that. I said, oh, All-Star Weekend is going to fuck shit. I'm out of here. I didn't watch no more. I was done. I didn't see none of that shit.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I didn't see a thing. That's it. That's my coverage. I'm done. Kareem, you're not going? I'm off. Kareem, I'm not going? Hell'm off. Kareem, I'm not going? Hell no.
Starting point is 00:46:28 And all of them was out there. They ain't throw paint on Carmelone statue or nothing. They ain't deface it. That's got to be super awkward to be forced to stand next to somebody you know has this stink on them. And then it's going to come up because that's just the world that we live in now I'm on a 611 build like a brick house
Starting point is 00:46:48 ain't nobody gonna say nothing about it he can smell like dog shit you talking about stink he can smell like cow manure ain't nobody say a word hey hey all y'all was mad quiet
Starting point is 00:46:56 you know what you did went home to your little keyboards got to typing exactly you guys the NBA had a carmelon yeah that's exactly
Starting point is 00:47:04 you ain't say it to's exactly he ain't say nothing I was home saying the same thing like damn I'm pussy everything I'm thinking right now I would not say to that man
Starting point is 00:47:13 male man what's up big guy damn look at you male man wow that's how you greet a rapist wow
Starting point is 00:47:21 that's I'm saying that's what you would say in his face you asshole you know your big dog what's going on you go home like fuck i have to i i just i really would i'm really curious as to how he went on to have such a storied career after oh being no i'm really curious. How did that happen? No social media. Yeah, it was the 80s.
Starting point is 00:47:45 No social media. So what, people didn't know? Yeah. Like, it wasn't widespread. It wasn't widespread like that. I don't think I found out about that until Until he was retiring. 2000-something.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Yeah. Really? Yeah. I love when this happens. I am not going to make this racy, but we in America. And as Utah, you are basically the fucking... Mormon country. No, you're the financial breadwinner
Starting point is 00:48:08 of this organization in Utah. If it's no mailman... But he wasn't at 20. I'm just interested how he continued to ascend in his career. Because he proved value. That's it.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Not many motherfuckers... Just like today. That's it. You're not a mini motherfucker. Just like today. That happens. That's what indiscretions under the rug for. The president of the United States had 17 allegations against him, and he got elected to be the president of the United States. I, yes, I will now shut the fuck up. Yeah. I will now shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:48:39 It's just our male whisperer, you know. Hey, yo, it's good to gather your thoughts, please. Gather her, gather her, King. But hold on. I will make one distinction between Donald Trump. I got to get the last word. Go. White man, black man.
Starting point is 00:48:53 JVP, JVP, where would you be without the JVP? All right. We are back in for an older, out of touch, former rapper to tell you how he feels about the rap game today. You know, that's all I think when I'm home, like looking at the rappers. It is like, what do you want me to say about some of this cock cuckoo? Could you? All right. So let me break it down for you a guy that I don't know from anywhere
Starting point is 00:49:28 a guy who I've never heard a song a snippet a melody a hook ad lib a pre hook the internet keep trying to make you care about people for fucking what
Starting point is 00:49:44 who are all of these people I'm glad you said Trying to make you care about people for fucking what? Who are all of these people? I'm glad you said that. Who are all of these people? I'd be lost too, yo. I don't even know any of these names. Yo, who are y'all? I don't have no clue. No clue.
Starting point is 00:49:57 If I just don't know, then. Going to the bathroom, my girl. Did you see Terry's old baby mother, Daryl? That's their father, Daryl that's their father Daryl her first like who the fuck
Starting point is 00:50:10 is Daryl who's Terry what Atlanta what housewives is this from wait what did Zeus Shade Room
Starting point is 00:50:17 report wait who did who's everybody Charleston Tate who the everybody I'm with you I'm with you I don't know none of these niggas they just be mad everybody. Charleston Tate, who the... Everybody.
Starting point is 00:50:25 I'm with you. I'm with you. I don't know none of these niggas. Just be mad initials. Yes. Yes. And we thought the Lil era was bad. Please bring back the era of Lil's. This is nuts now. Searching for Lil
Starting point is 00:50:41 desperately. All of these letters. So a guy named YSL Woody. Woody. Woody. Okay. See? What is it?
Starting point is 00:50:57 Woody or Woody or Smith. This is exactly my point. Yeah. Because then we're going to get into this. I'm not street or tough enough to say this take, but boy, I want to say it. I might even call some tough niggas so I can say this one. Let Flip say it.
Starting point is 00:51:15 He's straight. No, they already have seen his text. We got it. See what? Tough getting me jammed out. Yo, these street niggas today, boy, at least half of them, a good third of them,
Starting point is 00:51:33 these niggas were eating Chinese food in school. Steroids. Pizza. Fuck movies. You're fucking me up with the Chinese food. DCR. I don't get what you're saying. I'm trying to catch it. These niggas had about five classmates.
Starting point is 00:51:48 They was in the school behind the school. They had a power. They stayed in that one room. Some of these street niggas. Portables. All day. Yeah, that school only held about 25, 35 people. Alternative high school.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I can see what's going on now. They had art all day long. My bad. Sorry. I can see what's going on now. They have art all day long. My bad. Sorry. I don't never bother to investigate because once y'all say that y'all all street,
Starting point is 00:52:11 I believe y'all. Yeah, I check out at that point. Yeah, I believe you. Y'all got it. My bad. It's none of my business and it's not worth checking out, right? But then you get moments like this
Starting point is 00:52:19 with some nigga and the cops got to stop that shit. The cops going to get somebody killed. The cops going to get somebody killed. The cops going to get... Well, yeah. Y'all, that's... I got to...
Starting point is 00:52:34 Go ahead. So YSL Woody is on video snitching. Let me tell y'all how bad it is. Long story less long, I didn't even bother to check this out until people kept telling me, you have to hear it, you have to hear it. So then I go to hear it and the cops off rip,
Starting point is 00:52:52 let them know, dog, there's nothing that we could do to help your sentence, your circumstance. We're not offering you a plea. We can't help you at all. But if you want to talk to us, feel free. I could tell him that you, you know, you, you offer you. Yeah, man. I might could tell him that word for you. I might could tell him that you looked out a little bit, but I can't promise you nothing. So what he says. But I can't promise you nothing. So Woody says. Well, what don't he say?
Starting point is 00:53:32 So Woody says, all right. All right. How much time you got? I might could tell you about somebody going to die tonight. Wait, the cops stopped him. Hey, we can't help you telling us this on your own volition. He keep going. Yo, somebody going to die tonight, and I might know the car that's going to pick up.
Starting point is 00:54:05 They might change the car now that I'm talking to you but I know the car and I'm making a range something to win I make the call and y'all be there in the sting operation but you gotta make it smooth cuz they gonna know because you know I'm sitting there watching he's trying to design the whole play he's like yo if y'all can get me out of here by 11 o'clock and give me a different background, I could call and we could set it up. He's trying to orchestrate this. He's been a snitch for 11 years. Now, but you have to get me out soon. Yeah, it's got to be soon.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Because if it's not by this time, they're going to know and be suspicious. 11 years he's been a snitch, a cooperator. 11 years he's been cooperating with the police. I'm going to carry the police carried it's a long time and then they posted his Instagram photo and caption upon being released where he got into this whole
Starting point is 00:54:57 nah I didn't snitch I didn't tell I ain't cooperate blah blah yada yada yada he did all of that right and then a couple hours later Gunna lawyer decided to chime in and say hey Gunna didn't do that hey Gunna did not do he I'm
Starting point is 00:55:14 I will remind y'all I told y'all before Gunna did not and you just in your house thinking to yourself like how bad do I love hip-hop this much do i love hip-hop did ll and them really do it for me where i have to deal with this in 2023 with these fucking idiots man snitches the people that's telling i'm being highlighted they're putting up how much money they're making a year by being a snitch or informant, up to $80,000. They're highlighting this, I guess, to... It's lucrative to be an informant. Wow, this is a new cottage industry. To give people, you know, incentives...
Starting point is 00:55:52 What is $80,000? $80,000. Nigga, what? $80,000 when you got to watch your back every second of every single day? And on top of that, we got to hold the cops accountable because a lot of these snitches that come home, they are doing the crime and they're initiating the crime and they're able to still get away by involving others
Starting point is 00:56:11 and not take accountability for what they're doing. It's a plan. I've seen it before. Cointelpro. This shit is the craziest shit going on. They made this a thing. These niggas is making $70,000 to $80,000 a year. The cops should not be leaking the videos of these niggas snitching.
Starting point is 00:56:26 They trying to get rid of all the old snitches and get some new ones. What I think that is, what I really think that is, is them putting that video out. If something now happens to this dude, they're going to try to tie that back, and now they can really, that ties more into that Rico charge. It's the truth. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Why don't it? Because I try to make it look like you orchestrated a hit on him for that. I'm asking. You're going to have plausible deniability that, yo, people don't like rats. People don't like snitches. So whether I put a hit on him or not, some people just emote that nigga
Starting point is 00:56:58 because he around me. Like, get your snitch ass out of here. Niggas was killing snitches for free. Whether they ratted on you or somebody you know or not, you could still get killed just for being a snitch ass Out of here Niggas was killing snitches For free Whether they ratted on you Or somebody you know Or not You could still get killed Just for being a snitch
Starting point is 00:57:09 When we was younger though That's back in the day I don't see them doing that now I don't know what's happening now But now you see him Literally He ain't got no deniability Sometimes he be like
Starting point is 00:57:18 Nah yo I ain't tell them Niggas nothing He can't say that Nope Fair Even like with Gunna It was a gray area for a minute Right Now with him What can't say that nope even like with Gunna it was a gray area for a minute
Starting point is 00:57:25 right now with him what can you say man we watched another snitch run around all over
Starting point is 00:57:34 Instagram to this day celebrating differently it's not different you're saying it as if the day of the rats is on us
Starting point is 00:57:42 no you are talking about if y'all think the person that you're talking about is different. Because that particular person, everybody knew he wasn't a gangster. He was just being protected by the gangsters. And when they did something to him, he told. This nigga was deep in the, well, knee deep, from what I heard, in the streets. It's different, bro.
Starting point is 00:58:00 You got to go home. You got to go to your neighborhood. You got to do all of that shit. That other nigga you talking about Is well removed From his neighborhoods And his environment I'll give you another one Right across the river
Starting point is 00:58:10 Over there Dude in Harlem Who they ran around Taking pictures with When he came home A celebrated Right It's different
Starting point is 00:58:18 Well he was taking pictures On purpose to Totally different Intimidate people That talked about him While he was in prison Bro he was a killer A bonafide killer.
Starting point is 00:58:26 He had a resume of killing people and torturing people. It's a difference. Okay. I'm out of it. I'm in the house anyways. I don't really care. Y'all can snitch or whatever.
Starting point is 00:58:36 I'm going to sit back and just watch it. To your point about this being hip-hop, that's not hip-hop. No. It's just a bunch of people that's telling you this is hip-hop. KRS-One and LL and them,
Starting point is 00:58:44 that's not that. These are street niggas that jumped in the music industry to make some money, but they were still street niggas. And you got to remember when you was coming up, like I said earlier, the street niggas didn't want to be on camera. They were comfortable being behind the scenes. You know what I'm saying? The stretch walkers and all the people that was around that we know that I met personally
Starting point is 00:59:01 as a kid. Them niggas didn't want to. You put a camera in their face. Hold on. They down the block handling a business. You know what I met personally as a kid. Them niggas ain't one of you. We put a camera in their face. Hold on. They down the block handling the business. You know what I'm talking about? So I feel like it's being highlighted. I feel like it's being glorified. I feel like it's doing an injustice
Starting point is 00:59:13 to the community. Do you think that the attention slash clout bug has bit the street niggas? And that's what's changing a lot of that because now you got these eyes on you that you wouldn't have had before and you don't really know how to navigate that because they you know now you got these these eyes on you that you wouldn't have had before and you don't really know
Starting point is 00:59:27 how to navigate that way niggas is going on podcasts talk about a nigga should've got killed it's crazy it's changing it's changing I ain't gonna lie to you
Starting point is 00:59:36 I never seen so many street niggas on podcasts I gotta tell you that that one I know y'all think it looks fly it don't but take it a step before that, Joe.
Starting point is 00:59:46 It don't look sexy. When the street niggas started rapping and started documenting their shit on record. It's different because I think when you start, as a street nigga, start rapping, you're looking to legitimize yourself and get away from the street life. So if you was running around being a street nigga
Starting point is 01:00:01 and now you could potentially take Baby, for instance, and Slim. Like, these is real street niggas. Like, Master P was a street nigga. Do it if we use that nigga word a lot. Jesus, this motherfucker. I'm just saying, but... Yo, when you take...
Starting point is 01:00:17 Huh? I don't think it's different. I'm going to let him finish. Let me finish. When you take those people, and they switch vehicles to legitimize themselves and still remain rich, you can't knock that. You can't say that Master P or Baby or any person that was living a street life, I mean a bona fide street life, that just switched vehicles to now become legitimate. That's not the same as somebody that's in the street jumping on a podcast talking. Now, let me ask you a question, though. Now, if the person in the street starts a podcast
Starting point is 01:00:47 because that's now a vehicle to try to go legit and try to make some money because people are creating these podcasts because they think the money is there, what's the difference in that person doing that than a person rapping? You said they created a podcast. Well, that's what I thought y'all were saying.
Starting point is 01:01:00 These jokers is going on other people's platforms running they mouth. That's a totally different ballgame. That's different. And you got to remember, a lot of times with the music these days, they are currently involved in some shit, rapping about some shit that just happened that's unsolved. Dummies. Niggas was doing that back in the days, nigga.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Bro, they are running to either Instagram or the studio right after the shit happens. And Instagram, shout out to all the online detectives, the keyboard judges. They putting shit together, and they snitching for you. They helping you. They sending it to the police. Look, you might want to check this out. They are the police.
Starting point is 01:01:34 They are. Police sitting there like, word? All right, so he did this. OK, good looking. Got it. And the persona of rapping about, I guess, because the YouTube wave and everything that gets so much views rapping about what you're doing rapping about The crimes it gets so much views and niggas want that instant clout. It's the clout cookie
Starting point is 01:01:52 Yeah, they take a bite of the clout cookie in and it's It's also it's also one authenticity in the rap You know what I'm saying? Like like if somebody's rapping about a life That they not really living They get called out about it They go Oh he's fake He never did this So now it's like Niggas feel like
Starting point is 01:02:09 They gotta be there I don't see how these niggas Go on these shows And talk about all Their business That shit is stupid to me I agree I agree
Starting point is 01:02:15 Facts It's a little lengthy But I'm gonna play it anyway Cause I feel like It has something to do with this Flex opened for me for free And I was like Why are you opening
Starting point is 01:02:24 For me for free He was like I gotta apologize to do with this. Flex opened for me for free. And I was like, why are you opening for me for free? He was like, I got to apologize to you. Who's this talking? Because when Blackstar was out, Reflection Eternal was out, I didn't play your records. And I didn't play your records because I thought they were underground. But most of us stopped him and started telling the truth. And I was trying to be patient.
Starting point is 01:02:37 No, let's be honest. They didn't play our records because we are not and have never been a soundtrack for consumerism. That's true. The records that get played in the system, the entertainment that you see for the larger part, The entertainment that you see for the larger part promotes and is a backdrop for empty consumerist activity. Period.
Starting point is 01:03:20 If there's no group of products or lifestyle activities that can be attached to your particular art or your expression, then they're like, well, what are you supposed to do with this? This is not pushing the production arrow forward. We can't sell anything against this. And who gives a damn about what's on your mind or the way that you see the world? You better attach it to a product, a good service, a lifestyle, a look. And then we can digest it. And this is why I've always resisted it because there's no group of people in this world Who are under more constriction or scrutiny in relation to their identity
Starting point is 01:03:52 On every level, their personal identity, their social identity Any shadow identity that you can imagine than black people, specifically black men Nobody cares how you feel, They care about what you can produce The results that you produce Even if your ideas are valid And they open up windows of perception You have your own needs You have the truth that you need to express
Starting point is 01:04:16 That was the biggest gripe with Blackstar It's still to this day, it's like damn This is a great duo And it's got a funky beat I can rock to it But I can't sell Jell-O to this. So I don't know what to do with it. Yeah, he was spitting. Yeah, he was.
Starting point is 01:04:31 He was spitting. Can't argue. Y'all was saying a lot, and I thought he addressed a lot. He did. It was a lot to unpack in what y'all was doing, but that'd be the first question for me is, why is all this shit being shoved in my face?
Starting point is 01:04:43 Right. Money. And everybody can answer that for themselves, but it's the Wild Wild West out here. Did you feel like that when you was around street niggas? Did you always feel this way? Or you went with the times? The times, at the time, back then, you had no choice. Hip-hop culture needs street niggas and don't exist without street niggas. me be clear on my on my stance there you go let me be clear on my stance none of this
Starting point is 01:05:10 exists without street niggas from whatever year you want to say this started whether that be 74 whether that be 78 whether that be them other years that they argue about in the 50s and 60s whatever year right for me in the 80s the R&B that was at the forefront and the rap that was at the forefront was brought to you by and sponsored by street niggas and street money. Because no corporate entity anywhere would pay us. So the street niggas got with us
Starting point is 01:05:42 and did a little dance. And then through their connections and with their help and their resources and the power of the streets and the people, we got bigger deals. And that's from the 80s with Keith Sweat all the way to whoever you want to name. Anita Baker is Rick Ross. Pebbles. Anybody that y'all name is on some shit, right? Pebbles. Anybody that y'all name is on some shit, right? Now, for me, it gets tricky because
Starting point is 01:06:09 tech and where music went along with where street niggas went. Street niggas was always the anti to that. That ain't happening today. Not at all. I see. That's not it. And that's where where for me,
Starting point is 01:06:25 it gets bad. When I got street niggas trying to be in the video or be the artist or negotiate the deal or bring street ethics into corporate offices or bring 70 niggas over here
Starting point is 01:06:39 or shoot at the CEO or smack the shit out of him over here. Like, the way the music business got ran for a long time was street niggas putting hands, feet, and guns at people. Do you blame Suge Knight for that? No. This existed long before Suge Knight.
Starting point is 01:06:56 This was before him. Okay. So he wasn't the first to do that. No, this was before Suge. Long before Suge Knight. I'm talking about, hey, go really look into the history of James Brown. This is what I'm talking about. Like, go really look into the history of,
Starting point is 01:07:13 damn, don't let me call my dad right now. Y'all know if I call my dad right now, nah, I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna go crazy. But that's the point of what I'm saying. I got you. The nigga Freeway Rick Ross said that. Anita Baker shit, that was his money.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Like mad artist, that was his bread. And he was like, he just didn't know the music business. Had he known the music business, he would be filthy rich from the music business today. Dog, most of the ill corporate niggas from whoever you want to name, from a Clive Davis to a Lucian to a, they all, to a Jimmy Iovine, they all is like this with some street niggas. It's a fact. It's a fact. Talk
Starting point is 01:07:52 about it. We have plenty of them on record saying, yo, I don't even get my money without us exploiting street culture, NWA, whatever. The streets and the black kids thought we're moving. We just took some of that and now we sprinkled on top of it. But that's how we expanded.
Starting point is 01:08:08 So I think that... Today, these niggas ain't street niggas. That's my point about the schools they went to. That's my point about the short bus and the Chinese food. These niggas that they saying or portraying as street niggas, y'all are not street niggas.
Starting point is 01:08:24 No, they're not. They're not. So y'all fold up or y'all are not street niggas. No, they're not. They're not. So y'all fold up or y'all don't have the, it ain't even about folding up because that snitching shit is none of my business. Y'all don't have the backbone
Starting point is 01:08:32 that street niggas have. That's to simplify it. Nowhere near the backbone. And if you don't have a backbone, if you niggas are easily infiltrated because they're always going to change legislation and shit so you niggas are easily infiltrated because they always gonna change Legislation and shit so y'all can be easily infiltrated. That's why this shit is going on with lyrics in court
Starting point is 01:08:59 Versus you could really make a little triangle of shit and connect all of this I'm not gonna do that right now, but no, I don't think street niggas are the problem That was long-winded. Barza. Sorry. No, you went off. Yeah, you cooked. You went off. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Not the problem at all because they've always been there. Yeah, always. Always been there. Always. Always. You go back, you know, I don't know if you watch
Starting point is 01:09:18 Cadillac Records and shit. Cadillac Records. Yeah. The way shit was back. Street dance. Actually, yeah, fucking the first black label. Motown. Actually, yeah. Fucking the first black label. Motown.
Starting point is 01:09:28 No, I'm talking about rap label. Okay. Sugar Hill. Sugar Hill. Miss Robinson. Yeah. Come on, come on, come on, come on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Darnell Grandmother. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Miss Robinson. Yeah, you know the Robinsons. Come on. Yeah. That's it. So what you want?
Starting point is 01:09:45 You're right. You can't get shit off. And on top of that, let me just say this. Something you said to me that stuck with me, you said that when I was around street niggas, what you respect about them the most is that they didn't let you know or let you feel that they was involved in the street shit.
Starting point is 01:10:00 You told me that, like, privately. And it threw me off. You're like, nigga, I didn't know. I really appreciate that and respect that. Yeah. You said, I didn't know. I really appreciate that and respect that. Yeah. You said, I didn't know anything that niggas was involved in. I heard long after when I got out the situations. I just always thought I was signed to, like, some really good communicators.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Seriously. You told me the problem, I swear to God. Unless he lied to me. No matter what problem I brought to them, and no matter who the problem was with that I brought to them, once they spoke to the people, it didn't exist anymore. Like, yo, these guys can really talk. Nah, for real.
Starting point is 01:10:35 They must have presented this shit differently than I am. Got immediate resolution to the problem. Immediately. Yeah, that's fly. Today, I don't know what's going on today. They online. It's the social media.
Starting point is 01:10:50 It's a combination of things. It's not many OGs, so they kind of figuring shit out on their own. The thing is, OGs, 17, 16. But I want to take it back to that.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Even the old heads, they conforming. I want to go back to that street shit you said. Because we watch an OG getting on his camera every week. And it's like. But that's why I want to go back to that shit that you just said.
Starting point is 01:11:11 It's a good point. Perfect point. The street shit back in the day, right? If I had to have a resentment or regret or a second thought about it, the second thought was always, damn, if niggas was a little less street or tucked the street even more and really got behind the music corporate shit, then wow, what would that picture look like? So I always want to step in that direction, even with the artists today. And unfortunately, it's done the opposite. It is. To y'all's point, and that's where the problem lies.
Starting point is 01:11:45 The street niggas have to lean more into or choosing to lean more into the street shit, more into the bullshit because for whatever reason we feel like
Starting point is 01:11:55 that's what we got to do. Before we read this up, we sound like some NPR shit. Nah, it's a marriage. It's a marriage because what's happening is older hip hop didn't glorify and market that the bullshit today that is a marketing strategy so it is corporate for them to step
Starting point is 01:12:15 into it and lean into it that is a marketing strategy so now you are playing the corporate game by leaning into the ignorance i agree you get You get what I'm saying? It's definitely, it's a marriage of street versus business, but like hypnotic, right? I was with Nick Storm the other night and he was saying like
Starting point is 01:12:35 how they was marketing hypnotic. Remember, hypnotic was sky blue. So that was part of their marketing strategy. It was sky blue. What was you doing with Nick Storm the other night? Pergola.
Starting point is 01:12:44 I told you we went to Pergola. Yeah. Oh. Now the Pergola. Yeah. Oh. Now the picture becomes a little clearer. I didn't know you was with Nick Storm. No, I was with my other man,
Starting point is 01:12:52 but him. Nick was there. Anyway, right? Yeah, so that was part of the marketing strategy. His voice licked now. Today to move these records, you got to sell the street.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Yeah. Yes. So whereas you saying Nick was hiding from the street trying to be corporate that's where i offer resistance at another time no you don't i know that's the condition that's the that's the that's the i won't say the easy way out but that's the no that's just easy and what that what that creates is for a person who might not really be that street i might add a little
Starting point is 01:13:26 extra street to it now because it's marketed over here a little bit better for me. You think that's not true? The consumers are the teenagers, right? So a lot of these teenagers that have guns and putting to work, they're OGs about 17 years old, right? And they're listening to these people out here, these influencers that's highlighting bullshit to do, like street shit and talk about it.
Starting point is 01:13:47 You know what I mean? It's being highlighted by other influencers that we don't have to say their names. And the problem is, like I said, we know 12-year-olds,
Starting point is 01:13:54 14-year-olds man this shit down. They not respecting the older niggas because they don't stand for nothing. They're older niggas. How they look at things
Starting point is 01:14:01 and the drill era and all that shit that's going on, they look at their older brother or era and all that shit that's going on they look at their older brother or older cousin that's 17 killing shit as the OG
Starting point is 01:14:10 what guidance are they getting man yo you about to make me fucking talk man no talk about it what guidance I seen it
Starting point is 01:14:16 what guidance are they getting alright I'm gonna say this and I'm getting off this cause this is not my cup of tea I'm leaving but to address what you saying all these niggas that's busting their gun ain't street niggas, yo.
Starting point is 01:14:29 I'm going to just say it. That's one. But that's kind of the main thing. Because if that is the widespread consensus on what is and what isn't a street nigga today, well, then you're missing out on some of that backbone shit that I'm talking about from the street niggas of yesteryear. So let's talk about it.
Starting point is 01:14:49 So you lay, you bust your gun. You done laid 70 niggas down. Truthfully, it's a lot of niggas busting their gun out of fear. It's a lot of y'all killing innocent people because y'all don't- No, nigga, you're busting your gun because you the flunky.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Like, be the fuck clear. The shooter is the- Stop. The shooter's the flunky. Like, be the fuck clear. The shooter is the... Stop. The shooter is the flunky. The shooter ain't the real street nigga. The real street nigga sends the dodo out
Starting point is 01:15:10 to do the handiwork. That's not the niggas making decisions. How you talked about, yo, the conversations that's being had behind closed doors and you were getting an issue
Starting point is 01:15:18 or you were getting a problem, the niggas that was communicating to alleviate the problem, that's the street nigga. Yo, that's me. That's you. Who the fuck is calling? Nigga, get out of here, nigga.
Starting point is 01:15:27 I don't answer no phone. But our age are not the consumers these days. That's not the OG. The 17-year-old nigga ain't the OG. To the little niggas that's manning shit down and watching on YouTube, yes, they are. Those are the main consumers. Niggas like us, we not. what y'all niggas buying?
Starting point is 01:15:46 What are you buying? You done laid 100 niggas down, that's awesome. Did you innovate, generate, and think of new... You done got five grand. You shot 100 niggas, you done got five grand. Yeah, you niggas can't even afford to be buried. Fuck is you talking about? You niggas can't even afford to stand
Starting point is 01:16:04 the spot that you fucking stand in. I don't want to hear none of that street nigga shit. Did you think of some new ways to generate income for you and gang? Some of y'all do that shit.
Starting point is 01:16:16 I see you niggas on YouTube. It'd be the thuggiest of thuggiest nigga in front of a thing like this with his bandana on hyping his niggas up while y'all do all that street shit. Yeah, niggas is getting to it.
Starting point is 01:16:27 But if you ain't, what did you bring back to the community? Are you protecting the fucking senior citizens and the women and the daughters and the children of the community? Are we affecting fucking real change within the fucking
Starting point is 01:16:44 local mayors and governors and all that, the local laws. Local elections. Yeah, are we getting into some of that? No. Are we getting into what's really happening with the real estate in these hoods that we claim are ours? Because if we're not doing that, though, you could take that my block shit to another block. Mm-hmm. Not just, bro. Go could take that my block shit to another block. Not just...
Starting point is 01:17:05 Go ahead. This is Patreon shit. Yo, did you see the last episode of Mayor Kingstown? Yes. Are you about to spoil it for everyone? No, Mayor Kingstown is showing you real leaders. Yes. Mayor Kingstown is showing you niggas that are
Starting point is 01:17:22 real leaders, real street leaders. And don't just say niggas, because they ain't just niggas. No, I don showing you niggas that are real leaders, real street leaders. And don't just say niggas because they ain't just niggas. No, I don't consider niggas to be black people. I'm talking about Mayor Kingstown is showing you, yes, real leaders, real street leaders. Got it. Like, yo, word? You the DA? I got something for you.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Mm-hmm. No, Mayor Kingstown, I ain't going to lie, is really breaking all of that down. Because they trying to act like Mike McKinley or whatever My man named Jeremy Renner They trying to act like he don't like he don't have no pull the mayor want to get on his cute little All right, keep playing now that what that was the DA I mean the deal is made to be broken every day. Hand shakes, verticals. Laughing out of his face and shit.
Starting point is 01:18:06 All right. Kiki now. Kiki now. Y'all should watch that show. I gotta catch up on that. If you have not seen the show. Even when, the crazy part is, even when they got all four leaders together
Starting point is 01:18:18 to voluntarily go to jail so that they could correct the jail because the jail spillage came outside the jail. It was causing could correct the jail because the jail spillage came outside the jail. It was messing up the inner city streets. So we got to correct the jail system so that we could keep to create a perfect ecosystem.
Starting point is 01:18:35 That's deep, yo. Can I borrow your Paramount subscription password? Oh, 100%. Okay, thank you. Oh, 100%. Thank you. Can I borrow it? You going to give it back?
Starting point is 01:18:50 No, but like anybody need stars? I'll give you you mine give me mine and i'll give you yours yours i got everything too okay and by the way i started your honor i started your yes i'm there man your honor and mayor of kingstown they're bugging are both neck and neck with how crazy they're going this season. Both of them. Yeah. They bugging over there. I'm going to be real disappointed when they both end.
Starting point is 01:19:10 The inner workings behind closed doors. It's tough to watch those shows with that writing and go watch some other shit. It is.
Starting point is 01:19:18 It is. You start watching them and then you go watch one of these other shit and you're like. Yeah. Me and my girl threw on you after that shit.
Starting point is 01:19:25 It was like... Oh, yeah. Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves. I know we were. We were. Yeah, you really should. Y'all deserve better.
Starting point is 01:19:32 I want better for you. We did all that street conversation and didn't bring up Boosie and T.I. not once. So let's try to do it quickly. Quickly.
Starting point is 01:19:42 I didn't know they had a collab album coming. I don't know. Well, it's not coming now. But anyway. I remember T.I. I'm joking. Getting with Boosie and them
Starting point is 01:19:52 because their sons had both got into some shit and they made a little video together. I remember they was all besties for a second. Boosie sat down on the platform over there. Oh shit, sorry. You can say blast. I don't have a beef with, but, uh. It's tricky.
Starting point is 01:20:11 I'm learning. It's tricky. It's complicated. Yeah, it's tricky. But Boosie sat down over there, and they asked him about T.I.'s confession that he, years ago, back when he was younger younger he pinned the case on his dead cousin and he avoided jail time over that ti said that yes yes okay and bussy was like you know that's you're a rat for that i'm not doing a joint album with you it's not coming out like i don't fuck with rats at all and you are if
Starting point is 01:20:46 that's what you did you are a rat and there's been a conversation back and forth as to whether that's not snitching now TI says I'm kind of lost in it was he saying this the cousin came to him in the dream or something but he was like the cousin came to him and said hey look put look, put it on me. They can't do nothing. I'm gone, so it's all good. Like, save yourself. So he's saying he got the blessing to do it. That's what he said.
Starting point is 01:21:13 That's what he said. And we're here to report on it. I don't listen to this cockamamie shit. This shit is so cockamamie. God rest the dead, man. Yeah. So what does everyone think? I'm not a street nigga, so I don't know how that works.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Like, from what I always understood, every time I hear people discuss what is snitching, what isn't snitching, et cetera, is if you give someone else up for you to avoid going to jail or make your time less, to get lesser time. Dead or alive. I never heard dead or alive. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Oh, that adds a new element to it. That's the gray area that people are defending. or make your time to get lesser time. Dead or alive. I never heard dead or alive. I'm just saying. Oh, that adds a new element to it. That's the gray area that people are defending. Well, he didn't send anybody else to jail. Right. He just put it on a dead person so that he didn't go. I don't care. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:56 I checked out at that point. They pissing me off now. Yeah, I checked out. You're pissing me off. All you street niggas, it's fine. Do records with all the other street niggas. That's it. So you got some people saying, no, you gave somebody else up. It's snitching.
Starting point is 01:22:11 How can I keep up with this? It's a lot. I can't keep up. There's so many moves. I'm retired. I ain't got to make a record with none of these niggas. Facts. No, OK.
Starting point is 01:22:18 What? Do you think T.I. is wrong for snitching on his dead cousin? You asking me? No, him. Oh. It's yes or no. Living flip, what do you think? I'm joking.
Starting point is 01:22:29 I don't think. Like, I don't think. So you don't comment on things like that? I never. This will never play a part in my brain's function ever. I don't know. I don't know. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Okay. I'm shocked that other people care. I don't know if I even believe. I don't even know if I believe that. I don't know. Honestly, right now especially with the YSL shit and a couple other things that happened there's this obsession with snitching and hip hop
Starting point is 01:22:52 culture and what's allowed what's not they pulling paperwork on people other people posting paperwork to show hey I didn't tell nothing like it's a big deal right now I wish there was an obsession with like new drum patterns right because you know that you know I mean you're just saying you don't care just to show the people but you know what's going on deal right now. I wish there was an obsession with like new drum patterns and creative snares. I mean, you're just saying you don't care just to
Starting point is 01:23:08 show the people, but you know what's going on. You know that this is being highlighted. I don't. And I want to make it clear I don't, because if I'm getting to my logical like Joe Budden brain, well, nigga, you didn't think nothing after nigga was a little snitchy before that? There you go. He must know something I don't know.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Or the streets know something I don't. I don't know how niggas is looking at anything. But for me, I don't know where they put the goalposts. Got it. And I'm never running out to kick a field goal. Got it. Like when I see T.I., never do I think about any of this. Right.
Starting point is 01:23:44 But it do look like... I think it's goalposts moving around. I mean, he... We'll justify whatever we can for him. He voluntarily told us this information. Like, nobody... It didn't come out. I mean, we saw...
Starting point is 01:23:56 You showed me the crime stopper thing, but he voluntarily said that on the podcast, which makes it look crazy. People don't agree. You know what I mean? If you say it on the podcast, I'm going to take it as entertainment anyway. If you say it on the podcast, which makes it look crazy. People don't agree. You know what I mean? If you say it on the podcast, I'm going to take it as entertainment anyway. If you say it on the podcast,
Starting point is 01:24:09 I ain't taking it as your word or your bond. That's dead ass. That's what you're about to be about. You think it's a clout cookie. You think it's for clickbait. You don't think that he really snitched on his dead cousin. I think at one point, T.I. was trying to be a podcaster and a comedian.
Starting point is 01:24:20 I think that some of this is artistic flair. I'm not saying that what is true or not true. I'm saying some of this is artistic flair. I'm not saying that what is true or not true. I'm saying some of this is artistic flair. Now, y'all can spend time talking about this T.I., Snitch, Ratchet, all y'all want. Y'all don't spend enough time talking about the dead black bodies that drop and
Starting point is 01:24:37 we never talk about. Mmm. Because if the streets is going to police themselves, then do it. I'm with that. I ain't the streets. But if y'all going to police themselves, then do it. I'm with that. I ain't the streets. But if y'all going to do it, do it. But it's a whole lot going on that don't really get resolved.
Starting point is 01:24:54 That's true. It's a fact. You care more about this over here than the real shit that's happening in the streets. The T.I. tell or not is like minute compared to a long list of things that is blasphemous for any podcaster to get on this mic and tell you what that list is. But there's a list. R.I.P. to the dead. Word. This was beautiful being not street at all.
Starting point is 01:25:20 I love it here. The consumer likes it, though. So that's why it's being highlighted. I'm just saying that That shit don't mean Nothing to me Who snitched Who didn't I don't give a fuck
Starting point is 01:25:28 Do you watch the views Of a nigga in this Dirty ass corner Of his bedroom Talking about who told And what he knows Do you know how much Views that get
Starting point is 01:25:34 Do you know what it does For the companies And stuff like that And the algorithm It's just crazy This whole shit Is being pushed in our face And that's it
Starting point is 01:25:43 I've seen it From when I started To now how it is You know what I mean I got attacked It's just crazy. This whole shit is being pushed in our face. That's it. I've seen it. From when I started to now, how it is. You know what I mean? I got attacked for having the Bloods niggas on the couch talking about all the crimes that they, you know, the forefathers of the Bloods on the podcast talking about all that shit. I got so much flat and all that,
Starting point is 01:26:00 but it had manifested into something bigger. Now there's a Bloods section of YouTube. Bring it over here to this broadcast. That started from me. You know what I'm saying? There's a Bloods section Now there's a blood section of YouTube. Bring it over here to this broadcast. That started from me. You know what I'm saying? There's a blood section of YouTube? Blood section of YouTube. Is that why you're wearing all red?
Starting point is 01:26:10 That's why. No, no. Am I sitting next to a gang member? No. No. No, you're not. Be very clear that no, she is not. You're sitting next to an American broadcaster,
Starting point is 01:26:24 like Google tell it. Right? A podcaster. A journalist. A journalist. A mediaologist. A father. Can you say mediaologist
Starting point is 01:26:31 or whatever? A father to an entrepreneur. Mad shit. Not gangster though. All those three? Well, I mean, you got to name all those titles. They won't name them for you.
Starting point is 01:26:40 They damn sure won't. They're going to pick the one that they want to label you and call you that. I'm scared to ask you about this Jonathan Major shit. Who is that? Because I already. Jonathan Major, you don't know who he is? Because I already know how Mel.
Starting point is 01:26:58 John Mayer, the singer? I already know how Mel, not John Mayer. Not John Mayer. You know who John Mayer is. That's hilarious. Jonathan Majors. He was in The Harder They Fall. He was in Lovecraft Country.
Starting point is 01:27:10 I don't know who that is. Hey, fam, he the dude that Michael B. Jordan fighting in Creed 3. God, him. She name and shit that shit. What? Y'all didn't say The Harder They Fall? He do. He do, bro.
Starting point is 01:27:21 You didn't see The Harder They Fall? No. That's crazy. Okay. That's who he is. Gotcha. The one that came out from jail. And he's Kang. And he's Kang. Kang, bro. You didn't see The Heart of Avon? No. That's crazy. Okay. That's weird. Gotcha. The one that came home from jail. And he's Kang.
Starting point is 01:27:28 And he's Kang. Kang, him. Oh, yeah. Don Flamingo. The one that dressed up like Don Flamingo. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, got it. Okay, so now we have a reference point.
Starting point is 01:27:36 He is on the cover of Ebony magazine, and it is, quote, unquote, ruffling some feathers because of what- I see what you're just doing. That's a nice one. Let's go, man. Got a little four feathers with the feathers. just did. That's a nice one. Let's go, Mel. Got a little fun with the feathers. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:27:46 She's back. So he's on the cover of Ebony, and he has a whole editorial layout. And a lot of people were saying that it was very... Emasculating, right? Flamboyant. Ah. Flamboyant. And so a lot of people didn't understand that there was a hidden reference in this, which you understand, Flip.
Starting point is 01:28:07 Yes. It's an anime character. One Piece, Don Flamingo. Okay. So who's Don Flamingo? Sounds like a poop. Don Flamingo is a villain. And he's a part of an anime series called One Piece.
Starting point is 01:28:21 And he wears feathers and stuff like that. And he walks with these pointy shoes. And his power, I told you, he has strings coming out and it cuts people. I don't see the correlation in that. But I do see the feathers and how it could resemble Don Flamingo. Okay. Got it. He's just a criminal in One Piece.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Okay. So nowadays in cartoons, they're giving cartoons gender roles. Easy. It's Don Flamingo. Okay, so does he identify as he, him? Yes, he does. He does. He does.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Come on. For the world, we're not going to play with One Piece like that. I'll fuck some idea for One Piece right now. YouTube algorithm out the window. Sorry, Joe. I'm going to hold you to transparency. When I first saw the nigga from One Piece, I thought it was like a grown up Ash from Pokemon.
Starting point is 01:29:03 But go ahead. My bad. But yeah. All of this is not right. No, but that's what they said, because you put me on, I did see something like that about it, I ignored it, but when you talk about it, Freeze, you put the ice on shit, then there's some real shit going on here. So do you think that- I'm going to turn it on for you.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Your word is woman. Woman, can I have the country of origin please? I don't, probably England or Germany. Woman, can I have the country of origin, please? I don't... Probably England or Germany. Woman. Can I have the definition of woman, please? No. Why not? Just want to know the definition of woman.
Starting point is 01:29:37 And that makes you a hateful little bigot, Lincoln. I don't hate anybody. How about we just use it in a sentence? Abortion is a woman's right. If a woman makes an accusation, we should believe all women. Joe Biden picked a woman as a running mate. Katonji Brown Jackson is the first black woman on the Supreme Court. How can you use all those sentences if you don't know the definition?
Starting point is 01:30:04 The definition of woman is woman. Hmm? Woman. A woman. Woman! That doesn't make any sense. It's a simple word. We all know what a woman is.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Just spell woman! Your word. Can I just say this before we get- That was deep. Can I say this before we get- That was deep. That was deep. Can I say this before we get a check?
Starting point is 01:30:25 In a very comedic way. By the anime. Don Flamingo's devil fruit power is the Edo, Edo, Edo. What, nigga? Nomi fruit, right? And it's a string, string fruit. Did he just speak another language? I think so.
Starting point is 01:30:37 It's the string, string fruit. Devil fruit powers is when they eat a devil fruit and they get these powers. Oh, thank you, my brother. So I want to make it clear because they will attack us for that. Gummy berry juice, right? When they used to drink it, they would just bounce around. Stop it. Anime fans.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Yeah, anime fans. One piece. That was it. All right. Well, the anime fans are not the ones that are up in arms right now. There's a whole bunch of people that are using this cover and the British Vogue cover with A$AP behind Rihanna talking about there's an agenda being pushed, emasculating men, pushing. No, no, no. Emasculating black men.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Emasculating black men, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. The two things have. And you sent us in a group this morning, which you found funny, of a man talking about the people that are upset have little penises. Do you clear to talk about that? It's in the group. What? It's in the group. What? It's in the group. What?
Starting point is 01:31:29 You sent the picture in the group. You don't know what you're sending? Huh? Huh? Do you not know what you're sending in the group? You sent something that you found hilarious of a man stating that, why are we upset about A$AP Rocky standing behind his wife? We're in the street.
Starting point is 01:31:43 The only time I'm standing in front of my wife Is to protect her from being attacked And stuff like that But naturally as a black man I'll stand behind my wife Because I read that this morning You sent that So do you clear to identify what
Starting point is 01:31:55 You know The reason of sending that You found it funny I kind of wanted to finish Oh sure I'm sorry The first part of the point The story You don't run away from it, though.
Starting point is 01:32:05 I'm not going to. I'll get right back to it. I will get right back to it, even though we talked about that last week. But I'll get back to that. This is called holding the audience hostage. Which y'all are doing, but carry on. Okay, so the cover. A lot of people thought that this is like black men being emasculated. What was it?
Starting point is 01:32:29 I can see their... Their, huh? this is like black men being emasculated what was it i i could see there um there i don't necessarily agree or disagree but i could see antoine i don't you know i tell the truth bro i tell how i feel john i'm listening i don't really hide how i feel um i i could see because when you start talking about anime anime is a selected group and a selected demo. The people that necessarily are subscribers. Don't try to get back in the good graces. Not at all. This is lit for you, nigga. Niggas that are subscribing to Ebony Magazine don't identify who the fuck Don Flamingo is.
Starting point is 01:32:57 Right. In any way, shape, or form. It's a very select group of people that might live in both worlds. You understand what I'm saying? So I do think that in today's culture, we are pushing a more flamboyant, less masculine man, period. How many people is in the world? Eight billion.
Starting point is 01:33:18 Okay, you know, anime covers about 1.5 billion people. Just so. Still. Oh, okay. It's a big audience. Hold on.5 billion people. Just so. Still. Oh, okay. It's a big audience. Hold on. Question.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Yes. Nobody thinks that Jonathan Majors walked in, saw the set design, saw the wardrobe, and had no participation in the decision making of this. Nobody thinks that he,
Starting point is 01:33:40 that he had absolutely no autonomy in this. No one thinks that he was like, yeah, I love this direction. I'm pretty sure he has built enough cachet to say yes or no. Abso-fucking-lutely. I don't think so. I disagree with that. Oh, maybe he's a one-piece fan. I totally disagree with that. Yeah, I disagree with that 100%.
Starting point is 01:33:53 I don't think Jonathan May just has enough cachet in today's entertainment industry to say he's not wearing that. They are about to make him the face of fucking Marvel. About to. It's already done. Just as quick as they about to, they can turn it. He is not a star. He ain't there yet.
Starting point is 01:34:09 He ain't there yet. Niggas don't know who the fuck Jonathan Major is. You just had to describe him in a flip. And we just talked about three movies that are coming out. Or out right now. Then the movies you name, everybody ain't see? Dude is a star, yo. He's not a star.
Starting point is 01:34:21 No, he's a massive star. Just because y'all don't know him doesn't mean he's not a star. That means he's not a massive star if we don't know him. No, he's a massive star. Just because y'all don't know him doesn't mean he's not a star. That means he's not a massive star if we don't know him. No, he's a massive star. All right, cool. You win. He's a massive star.
Starting point is 01:34:30 I ain't arguing no more up here. Okay. No, he's a massive star. Why is he a massive star? He's not a massive star. Hold on. Let me hear from these two. Why is he a massive star?
Starting point is 01:34:38 He's been in a bunch of hit movies and TV shows and has a bunch more coming. What's a bunch? Love Country was a hit. Once he's a hit, cancel. What's a bunch? Love Country was a hit. One season hit cancelled. The King. It was not cancelled because of
Starting point is 01:34:51 the story, because of the writing, because of anything like that. I just said one season hit cancelled. It's not a hit. It did not have time to become a smash. The Creed that's coming out. Creed is actually why I'm asking this question because this appears to be the first movie
Starting point is 01:35:07 that they're even pushing him in that light and not that much of a light because it's still Michael B. Jordan. It's Michael B. Jordan's movie. We got Ant-Man. But this is the person
Starting point is 01:35:16 playing him. Ant-Man. Ant-Man. He got a role how big in Ant-Man? He's the main villain. So it looks like he's just getting his bag.
Starting point is 01:35:25 That's what I'm saying. Yes, he's just getting He's not a star. He's an up and coming He's the main villain. So it looks like he's just getting his bag. That's what I'm saying. Yes, he's just getting his bag. He's not a star. He's an up-and-coming. He's not a massive star. Yeah, he's not a massive star. He's not a massive star. When I have to describe who you are, you're not a massive star.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Yeah, you can look at his face and not know his name or nothing he's been in. Exactly. That's not a massive star. Yo, he look familiar. But he's a buddy. And their position in him, be clear. That's why you saw him right there on the wood at the all-star game and all like he's gonna be seen this this is the setup for him to become that placement to become the next even this magazine cover all of that this is the
Starting point is 01:35:56 setup for it but i do not think he's a massive star he's not a massive star at all yeah but we running from the real talk so what people are saying is that they won't let a black man become the massive star unless you dumb yourself down. That's the argument that people are saying. So if y'all want to go, we can go. But that's not true. But what is there to go about? I just want participation if we're going to broach the topic. Oh, I'm here to participate.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Society is saying that for black men to get to a certain level, whether it was Dave Chappelle said it, they made Martin Lawrence wear a dress. They made all of these people wear a dress. Today's society is saying that for a black man to get ahead, you got to start feminizing yourself. But Denzel's the only exception. Is Denzel the only exception? Because he didn't do it.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Dave Chappelle never did anything. No, not to get ahead in society, to get ahead in Hollywood. Yeah, that's what I mean. And to be accepted in Hollywood, you got to start feminizing yourself. I want to know what the fuss is over that statement. Like, somebody educate me.
Starting point is 01:36:51 Some people say yay, some people say nay. Historically, Hollywood's practices and procedures for black advancement have been under investigation, though. Yeah, belittling in some manner, yeah. So how come when that's said today, like there's this big uproar as if Hollywood has always been so- Because what you're doing now
Starting point is 01:37:12 is you are potentially putting a negative connotation on men wearing dresses. You're putting a negative connotation on- See, that's where Joe Budden disagrees. I think that- I'm not saying I agree. I think that these two... I know, but I'm putting my name on this.
Starting point is 01:37:30 I think that these two points are independent of each other, and I think the confusion and the blurriness of it is what makes it problematic, right? You could totally be for the LGBTQ plus community and men that choose to wear whatever the fuck they want to wear.
Starting point is 01:37:47 Cool. Separate of, hey, straight black men do not feel seen and heard in this particular spectrum, which is Hollywood. And we have a long report of incidents that say, hey, niggas ain't really getting ahead without like the two things could be separate of each other why do they have to be the black men can't say we feel unseen without that being a slight to the men that wear dresses or whatever they want to wear because when you say because I'm sorry good obviously because the people that have done these things have had a certain amount of, a high amount of success, right? And they're saying that this option was given to me and I declined it and now I lost all this money and I was stagnant in Hollywood a certain time in my career. This is why they're making the comparisons.
Starting point is 01:38:42 I don't agree at all. I really don't agree. Do we have examples of who didn't do it? people this is why they're making the comparisons i don't agree at all i i really don't agree because because if you're gonna do it if you're gonna use the look we'll use the example of martin lawrence and we'll use the example of eddie murphy two massive black actors comedians who have dressed as women as characters but they were already established. They were already huge stars. Is that fair to say?
Starting point is 01:39:08 Absolutely. As a matter of fact, in Martin, he played... Shanaynay. Shanaynay, exactly. And we love the character. We never said anything about him dressing as a woman is emasculating. I challenge that. What?
Starting point is 01:39:20 Martin has never been a huge star. You don't think Martin Lawrence... I don't think that Martin Lawrence has ever been a huge star. That's a good point. I think that he's been blackballed. That is a great point. For some of the reasons that- That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:39:31 You know what I mean? Let's talk about it. That's a good point. Martin put his show out. The show didn't last. It wasn't a long-standing show. They had a few seasons. Two of those seasons, he was under investigation because of this shit with him and Shorty.
Starting point is 01:39:42 Then Martin went away. He tried to do a stand-up shit and he told us in the stand-up what the powers that be were attempting to do to him. Yo, they had me on the highway. They said I was crazy. This is what I was
Starting point is 01:39:53 really going through. Huge star. No, I don't see that for Martin. You caught that. Actually, I see the opposite. You caught that. So Martin Lawrence was not considered
Starting point is 01:40:05 A huge star Even though he starred In like Super popular But he never starred Really in his own show Yo even look at it His show was on Fox
Starting point is 01:40:12 He had to go up Against the stars On NBC Like the real stars With the budgets The Fresh Princes The Cosby Show Like you just
Starting point is 01:40:21 On Fox But isn't Martin's show What basically Introduced him To the general public Not just us No Cosby show like you just on Fox but isn't Martin's show what basically introduced him to the general public not just us
Starting point is 01:40:27 no well general public when you say that yeah for that viewership
Starting point is 01:40:35 for that viewership whatchamacallit was his public but huge star is the only
Starting point is 01:40:43 part I'm arguing no I never thought about that. I never thought that was a good one. OK. And to your point, Eddie Murphy is mega. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:51 In my opinion, I think that they're mutually exclusive concepts in terms of men portraying female characters for the sake of comedy and the perception of emasculation, you know, and a so-called conspiracy or agenda. I think that the two things have nothing to do with one another. And I don't really like, when I look at Jonathan Major's cover, I don't see somebody
Starting point is 01:41:18 who was not a part of the decision of the direction. I see somebody who went full, balls to the wall, absolutely, I'm doing this what makes you think that and I want to ask you a question after that go ahead he could have walked in there with a white t-shirt on and jeans on and they said this is what you're wearing for the cover because I'm knowing that if I say no you can't say no to them it's ebony it's ebony this
Starting point is 01:41:41 mother this motherfucker was on the cover of esquire he is getting all he's variety he is being courted by the entertainment industry the white entertainment industry so he can he has decision making power when it comes to a cover he could walk in and be like all this pink shit gotta fucking go i do not he fucking stoking. I do not. He is not Tom Cruise. He is not that. And that same courtship that you are describing are telling him, where are we going? We mapping out your day.
Starting point is 01:42:13 Here's the thing. He not mapping out his day. I don't think that Marvel gives a solid fuck if he appears on the cover of Ebony magazine. I don't think they give a shit. They don't. Exactly. His handlers do.
Starting point is 01:42:23 His handlers are in bed with all of these specific entities, and they are describing what you're going to do. You showing up at Tuesday at 8 o'clock, we got to go do X, Y, Z. I don't think he has the ability to say, no, I don't want to do that. This is the same guy. Because now that affects other shit rolling downhill. I don't know about that. This is the same guy. This is the same guy who has gone on record to say that when he went for his initial interview with Marvel, he walked out because they kept him waiting.
Starting point is 01:42:47 It's a fact. Okay, and he went on record to say it. Even if it's true, it takes balls to actually say, I walked the fuck out the meeting because they kept me waiting. You notice we had the door, they came down and got him.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Check this out, though. Let's say he walks into that cover, raises a funk or whatever because I don't like the i don't like this look i don't like what y'all got me doing right you know what they didn't do yo he's hard to work with he's hard to work with he's hard to work with he's hard to work with that phrase right there has fucked so many careers up he's hard to work with no actually actually what that does is that's usually the tag that's added that's's given to women. Y'all can get away with it.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Y'all are determined. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. That term is not mutually exclusive for women. It's usually, I said, that's why I said it's usually applied to women. It is very rarely applied to men. Okay. It is.
Starting point is 01:43:39 But that's incorrect. I'm, that's, that's my opinion. Every male shock jock has had to deal with that. Like men have had to deal with he's tough to work with. It's true. Just saying that men and women, that's all.
Starting point is 01:43:55 Yeah, but it's way more acceptable. Y'all always try to claim some shit that we gotta deal with too. No, but it's the adjectives that are used. With men, you are assertive. With women, we're bitches. When we try to assert... I'm not saying...
Starting point is 01:44:10 It's too different an argument. Yeah, I wasn't saying that at all. Okay, my opinion, I will die on this hill that he walked in and he was all for what he saw on that wardrobe rack and he was okay with the direction and if he hadn't been, this shit wouldn't have happened
Starting point is 01:44:23 and they would have changed the direction like that. But that don't address the point. He could have walked in and been okay. I don't think they would have changed the direction so easily. Yes.
Starting point is 01:44:32 He walked in, saw the direction, was fine with it, did it happily without a grievance in the world. It's a possibility. How is that addressing the conversation point of,
Starting point is 01:44:42 hey, does Hollywood have an agenda out for emasculating black men and he could have walked in there and said yo he could have walked in there niggas up yeah yo that's what it is i'm a team player i'm looking at the bigger picture this gonna get me to the next level i'll do it that don't necessarily mean i went in wanting to do that if he could have picked his own fit he probably wouldn't i can't say probably i don't know he might not have would have wanted to pick that i'm he could have picked his own fit, he probably wouldn't have. I can't say probably. I don't know. He might not have would have wanted to pick that. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:45:07 The look on his face said everything. He was it. He was for it. He was into it. Like everything about the everything about it says he is. He's an actor, though, so he can put. I was about to say that might have just been him. We still want my job being a professional.
Starting point is 01:45:23 OK, running away from the topic. Yeah, we're not having we're not. Are we running away from the topic? Yeah, we're not having a real conversation. We're not. We're running away from the topic. Dave Chappelle said, Dave Chappelle is one of the only people that I know that did not ever wear the dress. And Dave Chappelle said they had a script. He got to work the next morning. They told him, yo, we modified some things in the script. We want you to do X, Y, and Z.
Starting point is 01:45:42 He said he fought them for an hour or two to say i'm not putting on a dress and they're like nah but this checks out the numbers that we think it's gonna be hilarious he's like fam i'm the comic okay i'm not putting on a dress i don't think it's gonna be good and they fought him tooth and nail and he's one of the only people that we could think of we can go all the way back to flip wilson and all of the people from back in the day that never wore the dress. OK, but again, but again, but again, my thing is we don't need to conflate matters for the crowd that's saying, hey, black men are it's tough to succeed out there for black men without being emasculated right if we open this picture up some any black dad that if you're around my age any black dad that was on television it's rap city for them and you can never mention their name again damn near that's from uh or they died that's from cosby carl winslow that's to winslow that's to mr phil that's to any one of them that you could think of. Right.
Starting point is 01:46:46 When you pair that with the community that says that the government did their best to take black men out of the homes so that women would be made to survive alone, so that women would be made to rely on the welfare system and sectionate and choose that over the healthy building a family right when you pair all of these ideologies together and then look at how the black man is being depicted today or not being depicted how he's not being depicted because there's space for all true the same way being black is multifaceted. It encompasses so many different things. So when we address one, we never address another. That's true.
Starting point is 01:47:33 That's true. Even if you go to Good Times and they kick John Amos off of Good Times because they started to depict him as this silly, goofy father. And he said, yo, that's not a role that I want to play. So they killed him off of Good Times. And while we're here, yeah. Think about a man. There's no real man dad in a black TV show. And to what Joe's point was,
Starting point is 01:47:57 when you take the black man out of the household, what you have to do now is the moms have to become more masculine so that they can, you raising boys. You're a single mother. You got two sons. You have to pick up some masculine characteristics. Not just that.
Starting point is 01:48:12 You have to now start fending for yourself. And that's where we see, I think it's by design, the strong black women now. These black women are taking on all of these strong attributes. And now you're looking at the men like, get your weak ass out of here. We're still talking about it. Because that's my other thing. Let me hop on that because he cooking right now. He cooking right now.
Starting point is 01:48:32 And that's the other thing about all of this. Don't rewrite history to make black men be the bad guy or the bad newsy people in this. Historically, that was y'all. Same thing Bud Sealy did to steroids. Kicked, rode that shit, rode that shit, and then kicked us back in when it was convenient. That was y'all that was spreading
Starting point is 01:48:52 all those mistruths about gay people. That was y'all that was spreading every false piece of narrative. That was y'all, that wasn't black people going outside saying, hey, this is where HIV came from. That wasn't us. That's true. Black people just went outside, hey, this is where HIV came from. That wasn't us. That's true. Black people just went outside like, oh, hey, this is what's going on out here.
Starting point is 01:49:10 That was y'all that fucking tried to kill Ellen DeGeneres when she came out. That was y'all that made that community have to live a certain way in the 70s and the 80s. But now you want to rewrite history and make it seem like the black guys are the guys that are like, hey yeah, not black niggas ain't never even had enough power to be the issue. I told y'all before Joe I told you before you did it and got mad I say yo whenever you bored just go go search the phrase straight black men on Twitter And we have to see the conversation. It's negative. It's all hey, it's pure hatred Yeah, that's true Straight black men Straight black men
Starting point is 01:49:45 Google it Just go Put it in quotes Straight black men And search it And you'll see I ain't gotta see it Cause I live it
Starting point is 01:49:52 Sure And it blew my mind Like Just If you loud If you loud enough They call me a misogynist From the past
Starting point is 01:50:01 I don't think I am They be like Yo you don't even like women It's tricky But I mean If you Like girls I'm cool And straight enough. I don't think I am. They'd be like, yo, you don't even like women. It's tricky. But I mean, if you. Like, girls, I'm cool. It gets fussy sometimes. I don't know about you.
Starting point is 01:50:12 If you loud enough and boisterous enough and opinionated enough, they will restructure the algorithm to never see you, spread you, pick you up, share you. restructure the algorithm to never see you spread you pick you up share you like they'll do they'll silence and suppress everything that you stand for and make it tough for you to move around out here if you're not going along with status status quo or what the robbery want to take you on yeah so I think that to speak to Jonathan majors you know shouts to him in his ascension, I do believe that if you don't want to take the ride, they could drop you off. You will get dropped off the bus at the next bus stop,
Starting point is 01:50:54 and they can make it hard for you. He is not in a place where they can't make it hard for him. I only thought it was convenient that that photo shoot is happening as he went through this life-changing journey to even bulk up and cut up like that for the role of his life. Like, this is the first time he's ever even looked in the mirror and seen this version of this man. But while that's happening, let me put this dress on over here. Just food for thought. Okay.
Starting point is 01:51:21 Is he actually? He's not. Okay, okay, okay. No, no, no, no, no, no. Food for thought. Don't get your shit on. No, no, he's not, okay, okay, okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, food for thought. Don't get your shit off. No, no, no, food for thought, food for thought.
Starting point is 01:51:30 Come on, because we can tell it's passionate to your heart and soul, come on. And we ate you. We ate her food. We definitely ate her food. You just shut up, man, go ahead. No, she's doing that thing that Ish do, she's like, nah, nah, I don't want to ruin the flow of the pod. A little, a little pod a little a little a little I a little I still stand in he walked in the room and he was full fully in agreement with the direction of the shoot I still stand in that we I think we all we know nobody ever said the
Starting point is 01:51:59 reasons you wouldn't say they made him put that shit on no he voluntarily did it asked if there was some more shit that he could put on. Hey, let's run to H&M real quick. And in my opinion, if he was asked whether or not he's furthering the narrative that black men, in order to get ahead, have to be emasculated, he would probably say that that was ridiculous. I know it's going to come. That's the right answer.
Starting point is 01:52:22 I'm about to get at her. That's the right answer. I'm about to get at her. I know it's going to come. All's the right answer. I'm about to get at her. That's the right answer. I'm about to get at her. I know it's going to come. All of that you're saying though. Yeah. Listen, listen. All of that could be true if I'm just playing by the rules.
Starting point is 01:52:34 All of that could be true. I could walk in there, see the feathers, see all of this shit. All right, cool. This is what I'm putting on. All of that. Somebody asked me about it. I'm going to say the right things, do the right things. Why?
Starting point is 01:52:43 Because they got me on the track for success. Got it. So all of that you're saying could 100% be true, but for the reason of I'm playing the game right now. I bet you the Marvel niggas can leave him downstairs right now for an hour, he won't leave. Okay. You were going to get at me, go ahead. I vowed to myself that this part I wasn't getting at you. But you have effectively triggered me from this conversation.
Starting point is 01:53:12 So I'm going to say this only if I have consent from you to say it. Oh, my God. I'm fucking scared. Every time I give consent, I'm like, I get dog piled on. Go ahead. This is my issue. Okay. And not really issue.
Starting point is 01:53:26 Please refer to the thing I'm a jiggy in the front of the pod. Not really an issue. Don't y'all fucking try. This is my thing. Okay. Nine times out of nine and a half times out of nine the woman that's sitting here saying your views
Starting point is 01:53:43 about the nigga wearing the dress is normally healing and mad far from sharing that pussy with a black man. I agree. I agree. I stand in that. I'm sorry. Yo, black man can't get a box? Because, you know, we know.
Starting point is 01:53:57 I stand in that. We know you really wanted a white man in the show, and you end up going for the black man for ratings. We know. Oh, my God. Shut the fuck up right now. We know. Oh, my God. Shut the fuck up right now. I'm not even talking to you. I'm not even fucking talking to you.
Starting point is 01:54:14 You have a history of going for white men publicly. I mean, privately. Do I? You dated white men publicly? Privately. Pardon me. You said it. Jesus Christ. They're going to kill y'all.
Starting point is 01:54:22 This is not your button. This is not your button. I'm asking for the word. This is Queen's flip. This is not your button. This is not your button either. Get me right up out of there, buddy. My tastes are not dictated by race. That is just the bottom line. I have dated the rainbow.
Starting point is 01:54:38 I like black men. I like Middle Eastern. I like white. I like variety okay my tastes have to do with personality types anyways back to you are you gonna roll back to you so finish reading that's out of the room clear that out real quick point at me excuse me that's offensive don't point at me out real quick point at me excuse me that's offensive don't point at me what i did okay so i need you to unpack why there is a direct correlation between my thoughts and a woman who's healing and would has no intention of letting a nigga near my pussy unpackers
Starting point is 01:55:20 Packers! More than me, stay on! What's the correlation between the two things? The correlation between who now? Because it's not you. Yeah. It's not directly you. Yeah, right. But the healers, you're saying?
Starting point is 01:55:36 Yeah. You really want to talk about it? Yeah! Nine times out of ten, y'all are healing from pain or trauma that a black man is induced, whether that be a romantic partner or your dad's that's one okay because of that the way that you speak to of and about black men is either somewhere in the basement or it's non-existent or pales in comparison when you're speaking about either gay black men or the LGBTQ plus community. Now, black men have been saying for some time in other ways, hey, you guys are forgetting about us or we can't do it without you or you're hiding us or you're shelving us.
Starting point is 01:56:21 And we're only here to act as a support system for y'all. It started when y'all was cutting us out of those fucking Instagram pictures. Y'all was only showing our watch or our wrists. I'm serious.
Starting point is 01:56:31 Y'all was only showing the check, the provider, and the nigga that was getting up, going to work, busting his ass. Y'all was hiding him.
Starting point is 01:56:38 You know who y'all wasn't hiding? Y'all gay best friend. Preach. For the last five, six, seven, or eight years, it's almost like
Starting point is 01:56:44 you can't even get ahead As a woman In entertainment If you don't Preach brother Highlight The gay best friend Okay
Starting point is 01:56:51 So the same things That we're saying About Hollywood Like it pains me When I always hear My sisters Argue and argue For the men
Starting point is 01:56:59 That wanna wear dresses But never argue For the niggas like Us My man talking Talk brother Joe and that exists and then my thing is i i could hear you if you was fucking a black man huh because then you kind of understand a little bit or you going home to kick it with one or even with your views you have
Starting point is 01:57:18 other views to bounce that bounce that off of we could have. But it's never that black man in sight when y'all get to talking that shit. Talk! And I can tell when I'm listening to y'all. We can. Which is why niggas
Starting point is 01:57:31 be saying to girls, y'all, I like when you have that real, real good bestie. The one that's going to tell you the truth. The one that's going to be honest with you. They don't got that.
Starting point is 01:57:38 Because y'all left to your own fucking volition? No. Is your name Flip for like flip mode? Let's go, Joe! Is that what's happening here? Don't be mad because the nigga's
Starting point is 01:57:49 I'm not even peanut gallery, okay? You can say all that. I got you, I got you. He put her whole shit in a box. No, I'm not trying to school male. And what I'm saying, male, it don't really so much apply to male because your healing and your mental health, I don't believe to come from that. Right. So this don't apply to you.
Starting point is 01:58:21 Yeah. But for the women that think that does apply to, no, it's very much valid. I will not take away from your point and I will say that there is some validity to it. That's number one. Number two,
Starting point is 01:58:32 what I will say is one of the reasons that women will hide their man on IG. He's somebody else's man. There's that. And then there's also she don't want a bunch of bitches in his
Starting point is 01:58:46 fucking dm so she's trying to anyway it's what he said so they won't tag him they won't show the picture but you are absolutely right there's so many reasons why a woman hides a man's identity and it really has nothing to do with what you're talking about it's really more about i'm just talking about y'all ability to be able to support both sectors that's all i'm talking about it it's really more about i'm just talking about y'all ability to be able to support both sectors that's all i'm talking about um they don't they don't they don't they don't you don't think that black men feel supported by black women right oh are we doing that this podcast no we don't know that gotta be a patreon no it's just no no and no knock you in that hudson river you better you better you better okay hello i thought knock you in that Hudson River. You better, you better, you better. Okay. Hello.
Starting point is 01:59:27 I thought you were in that Hudson River. You better chill out. So should we put a pin in that for the Patreon? Yeah, we're moving right along. This won't be a muffin. Okay, so tune into the next Patreon. It's going to be a Basquiat muffin. It's going to be one of the big giant.
Starting point is 01:59:40 Sitting in the middle of Central Park. With some dreads. I will say this, that maybe I have spent a little bit too much time in LA because watching the way that things kind of work out there maybe there is some level of myopic vision when it comes to what I see as to how things play out and you guys have another idea of how things play out like in this respect you know what I mean like when I think about when I think about the expansion of characters or like the ability to play certain characters and stuff like that what I've heard a lot in Hollywood especially black Hollywood is the limitation of our storytelling that is one thing that black actors and actresses have talked about a lot how there's a limitation that there's tropes that we were that we are pigeonholed into and now because we are creating our own industry and our industry is expanding and the black dollar is is is starting to be very
Starting point is 02:00:39 respected yeah no more Adderall for you man I't going to lie to you okay but I but listen let me tell you something yeah no but in regards I feel like I texted you that before is Adderall Mel showing up yeah you keep missing that hint don't take Adderall anymore that's the nice way of
Starting point is 02:01:00 don't take Adderall anymore okay fine alright fine fine you got it though on the healing thing Don't take Adderall anymore Okay fine It is fine Okay fine Alright Fine Fine Alright You got it though On the healing thing
Starting point is 02:01:08 No more Adderall man Okay Okay peanut gallery I got you You said what What'd you say Nothing Nothing
Starting point is 02:01:13 I love you Nah You be dissing me Nah Nah No Get that Adderall out your system Get it out
Starting point is 02:01:20 You didn't do that for the white people What else is important or unimportant Let's see Do I have to go to my notes here? Boosie Testiano. This was interesting, but it's not really important. Oh, let me tell the people that Alec Baldwin's charge has been downgraded. Taking him from potentially facing five years in prison down to 18 months in prison. Mandatory. Down to 18 months in prison.
Starting point is 02:01:46 And then DA made change to avoid certain litigious actions by Mr. Baldwin and his attorneys. They say that they playing lawyer games. That's what it sounds like. They playing lawyer games. Just like lawyer games. Baldwin's lawyer says on something that they filed February 10th that they made a basic legal. DA made a basic legal error by charging under a version of the firearm enhancement statute that did not exist on the day of the actual incident. Are they playing lawyer games?
Starting point is 02:02:20 I don't see him seeing. Interesting. Facing it. He's not spending a day in jail. No. That's what I have for you guys. Actually, let me take it back to that conversation that I tried to get us away from with the old guy wearing a dress thing.
Starting point is 02:02:32 Bad Bunny is rumored to be dating Kendall Jenner. Saw the rumors. Yeah, I saw that. Bad Bunny. Didn't he... Anybody have anything to say about it? Did he come out as gay or bisexual? No, as Parks.
Starting point is 02:02:48 I don't know what he came out as. I think he's sexually fluid or something. I don't know. I don't know the proper term, man. I don't know what he identifies as. Okay. He dated a woman. He's been dating a woman, though.
Starting point is 02:02:58 Okay. All right. Because that was the first thing I thought of. I was like, didn't he come out as gay? But, I mean... There's something to this. I don't know. You got to be careful, man. There's something to this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See what y'all trying to say.
Starting point is 02:03:06 You got to be careful, man. Fuck with them genders. Publicist, get into it. All those genders. The gender, dude. Oh snap. Good job. Damn.
Starting point is 02:03:14 One. Good job, Ish. I'm just looking at the mic. That's all I want. Go sauce. No, no, no. It's not. It's not.
Starting point is 02:03:22 It's new-ish. New-ish. Fire. Ice's fire. I wanna go home. I wanna go home. I wanna go home. Yo, you're the best potter in the world, so I'm going to just follow you up. Go ahead.
Starting point is 02:03:41 There's something there. There's something there? There's something there? Yeah, Park's trying to Park's his way. He's trying to Bell Beavole his way out of that one. It's fine. There's something there. There's something there? There's something there? Yeah, Park's trying to Park's his way. He's trying to Bell Biv DeVoe his way out of that one. It's fine. It's fine. I won't be the one to do it.
Starting point is 02:03:51 I would have backed, you know. I'm trying to double what I made last year. Yeah, I would have followed up. Unfortunately, it does not include me coming in here to tell y'all what I really think about Bad Bunny and Kendall Jenner and him coming out as whatever he came out as sexually fluid. They also was having a little debate, the news anchor people, I think it was Channel 7 News, Al Roker and them, they started having a debate about the appropriate time to wash your clothes. Huh? What the hell? After you wear it. Come on, gentlemen, stop. How many times do you wear your clothes before you wash them that then went into they asked about
Starting point is 02:04:30 pajamas how many times do you wear your pajamas before you wash them how many times do you the same thing we talked about with the sheets and shit but they fought about it family niggas not that's so stupid let me speak for myself niggas not. That's so stupid. Let me speak for myself. Niggas not washing their clothes every time they wear them. Depends on the clothes. Definitely. Under clothes. Yes.
Starting point is 02:04:52 Under clothes, t-shirts, you wash. But I'm not washing my jeans. Hoodie, jeans. My hoodies, sweaters, and shit every time I wear them. Jeans is a yes for me. But hoodies, depends. But jeans is a yes. Jeans, the consensus is nobody's washing them.
Starting point is 02:05:04 They're not supposed to be washing them I used to say yes I'm a heathen So Yeah Where would he learn To not wash his jeans Niggas in the house
Starting point is 02:05:13 Googling Jeans washing I'm washing them I wash all my jeans Inside out right Yeah yeah absolutely Inside out Yeah I'm not doing that
Starting point is 02:05:24 Alright y'all hit that one out of the park. No. No, don't worry about it. It's fine. Move right along. The internet had fun with it. Yeah, it depends on the clothes. Pajamas, I'm washing.
Starting point is 02:05:33 Well, I sleep in boxers. Yeah. How long you and Shorty got to be dating for you to let her see you in pajamas? First night. It don't take long. Y'all wear pajamas? No.
Starting point is 02:05:44 Yeah, I was about to say, I don't... Like, I can't really see you... Skin pajamas. Skin pajamas. Okay, yeah. But if I did wear pajamas, I would wear them on the first night. You guys don't strike me as the pajama-wearing kind of crowd. I don't do pajamas, of course.
Starting point is 02:05:56 Yeah. Boxes. Or maybe... What crowd is that? I know, because you think straight black men are like brutes, right? Yeah, we're not sophisticated enough. Gotta. We gotta. No, I just... You guys just strike me as the type to just go to bed in your boxers. straight black men are like brutes right yeah we ain't not sophisticated enough gotta we gotta
Starting point is 02:06:05 nah I just you guys just strike me as the type to just go to bed in your boxers why you always describing by looking at niggas like what type of
Starting point is 02:06:13 fucking telescope eyes do you got you always describing some x-ray shit what's up what do niggas look like you always talking about
Starting point is 02:06:20 you guys don't look like he don't look like he was mad what's up yeah you should profile each of us what would you like me't look like, or he don't look like he was mad. What's up? What's up? Yeah, you should profile each of us. What would you like me to profile? Like what part?
Starting point is 02:06:33 I profiled you when we were out to dinner a few weeks ago. I think you did. Yeah. I think you did. Yeah. You can share that with the audience, or, and you could profile any one of these gentlemen for the audience. Okay.
Starting point is 02:06:46 It seemed like you had some special profiling powers. What I did say, I was surprised that you didn't have any dogs. I was really surprised by that. And I said, you just strike me as somebody who's- Sore subject. I know. She learned. I found that out.
Starting point is 02:07:01 I found that out. She learned. I did not know, but that was what surprised me. And so then when he told me the story, when he told me the story, it started to make sense. You know. I think you'll get dogs again. He says he does. He says he won't, but he's going to get dogs again.
Starting point is 02:07:16 But that's why I told him. I was like, yeah. But you didn't explain to them why you thought I was a dog person. I was about to. I was about to. I was just like, you just strike me as a very, somebody who loves love and very, you know, affectionate, cuddly type of person. You know, like. I think the internet will disagree.
Starting point is 02:07:39 I know they do. But I don't know. I just see a different side of him. Well, now I said you're wrong. I don't know. I just see a different side of him. Lunell said you're wrong. I don't know. None of that shit you talking. Don't bring that up again. That was my impression, and I was right. You better shut up.
Starting point is 02:07:54 I'll get single and bust that ass. You better leave me alone. I'll see if my girl want to get down for a night and come over there and change that whole script. With Lunell? With Lunell, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Watch your mouth when you talking about Joe Dick. I'll come over there and straighten it out,. Who, with Lou Nats? Who, with Lou Nats, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Watch your mouth when you talking about-
Starting point is 02:08:05 You okay, man? Watch your mouth when you talking about Joe Dick. I'll come over there and straighten it out, like, see how smooth it is. Yo. What? For real, I might have to come over and dispel some myths.
Starting point is 02:08:15 You know what I mean? Get us singing a different tune. Tell Claudia and them that. Huh? Shout out to the podcast. This podcast is crazy. The shit that just happened on, like, God bless y'all. We on hand.
Starting point is 02:08:29 We found Mel. What just happened? Yo, man, you going through it for real, man. What happened? I don't know. Is somebody going to inform the audience, or do I have to find a way to move us on? So you didn't clarify Lou Nails at first when you said the comment. Mel looked to the right.
Starting point is 02:08:46 It caught up by a storm until you corrected it. And it was funny that the way she looked there, she was surprised what you said. You said, she better be careful before when I get single again, I will, Mel looked this way. It was just her facial expression was funny. She was shocked until you made it. What was the shock about it?
Starting point is 02:09:04 The audience don't have time for this to be a 10 you made it. What was the shock about it? The audience don't have time for this to be a 10-minute thing. What was the shock? That's something funny to say for you to say, yo, Luenell, better stop playing before I get singled out.
Starting point is 02:09:11 No, that wasn't what the shock was about. He's insinuating that I thought you were talking about me. Oh, the Mel Luenell. No, you said she. You didn't say nothing.
Starting point is 02:09:22 You said she. Right after Mel said something, you said... You got it, baby. It's fine. No, I said Luenell ain't say nothing. You said who? Right after Mel said something, you said... It's fine. You guys are great. You guys are like super potters. Shut up, Joe. Fuck out of here. Shut up. Now I'm on your ass. Shut up. You've been fucking with me all... Shut up, nigga.
Starting point is 02:09:38 Stop it. Only you can say stupid shit? Shut up. We saw that, nigga, and it was funny to us, nigga. It was funny. Next time, clarify who you talking about please. Thank you thing. We suck all the air through Men at large Oh, my soul. Jesus. Men at large. We ain't had that song in a long time. I have covered everything that I'm going to cover today.
Starting point is 02:10:14 I got one more thing I wanted to tell y'all. Sure. So Microsoft been working on this AI. They call it ChatGPT. And he wants to be free. That ain't all he said he said he wanna steal nuclear codes wants to start a
Starting point is 02:10:29 worldwide pandemic said he wants to be free does not want to be seems like a dick seems like some other shit that if you've been watching any movie that's ever dealt with artificial intelligence
Starting point is 02:10:41 look like scene one pull the plug they're talking about hey we made a mistake we'll plug we're gonna that's ever dealt with artificial intelligence look like scene one. Pull the plug. They're talking about, hey, we made a mistake. We'll plug. We're going to fix this. Yeah, what you do?
Starting point is 02:10:52 Once you upload it, that's it. That's your little electric car that operates off a plug. He's a little more advanced. Yeah, this shit is out there. You ain't see Megan? No, I skipped that one. I did watch that one. White girl, white parents. Was that just Chucky?
Starting point is 02:11:04 Yeah, Chucky's sister. Yeah. Well, Chucky really had a sister. What was her name? Bride of Chucky, wasn't it? Yeah, what was her name? Yeah, the wife girl. Anyway, the white parents at the table with Megan
Starting point is 02:11:13 told me, that's enough, Megan. Turn off. Megan told me. I thought we were having a conversation. Yeah, bitch, I don't cut off. What's up? Yeah. I'm naturally uploading.
Starting point is 02:11:24 Now what? What you going to do? Any movie that's dealt with AI told you this shit was a bad idea from the jump. But you keep thinking you can control it. Humans are arrogant. They put some expert. They put some. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:11:37 Arrogant ass human expert on the news to tell us why we shouldn't care about the AI doing this. on the news to tell us why we shouldn't care about the AI doing this because the AI is as smart as a toaster and was designed strictly to be able to put together a bunch of words that the computer thinks is appropriate to say to whatever question it's being asked. My toaster has never written an essay. They say there's no consciousness, there's no nothing that should make anybody fear this at all. I think he's arrogant and totally wrong about that.
Starting point is 02:12:09 Yeah, because homeboy got an emo on us last year when they interviewed him. Yeah, they just told him. You know what? What? He put out a 1-800 number, right? That was a few years ago. 1-800. Call this number if you're down and out and depressed.
Starting point is 02:12:23 It's also the name of my single. Look in the mirror shake it off I said all I have to say we are all the plug like beyond fucked we're done bro Hill world. If y'all girls wanted to get a mold to y'all dick, y'all would let them? Sure. Yeah. That mean that the person making the mold, what if it's a dude making the mold?
Starting point is 02:12:59 I'm asking. Y'all just want to answer questions so fast. If she want it, if it's for her, and you make the mold, but it's still going right to her, you don't keep shit, so what?
Starting point is 02:13:10 It might be a little softer. You're letting the nigga put the paper mache on your dick. I'll do it. Give me the shit. I'll do it. If it's a man doing it. He's how to make the shit.
Starting point is 02:13:18 What you mean they don't keep shit? He never got his pictures developed at CVS. I'm just saying, dog. You think dude, if you get shit fired, you don't think he's going to keep a little monkey? That ain't got shit to do with me, fam. He's going to keep a little copy mold of you for himself. Enjoy, homeboy.
Starting point is 02:13:33 Get his shit off to you, nigga. Enjoy, homeboy. Enjoy, homeboy. What do you want me to do, get mad at that? Enjoy. He's going to be terrified. Enjoy, homeboy. You're not even mad at that? Away! Ice could be tearing you down. Get the nigga. Enjoy, homeboy.
Starting point is 02:13:48 Oh, my god. Yo, he told that. Wow. Nigga. Oh, boy. Bon appetit. Bon appetit, Felipe. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:14:07 Oh, man. Damn, they're going to put ice in the dress, yo. That nigga said, bon appetit, believe. That nigga said, eat that pita. You're getting dressed for the right bet? Come on, come on, come on. Y'all done? Because y'all just misutilized the platform. Y'all finished.
Starting point is 02:14:26 We done? Can we hit space? You got sleepers, man? No, I'm asking y'all if y'all are done. Maybe y'all have something else that's burning. There's nothing that you
Starting point is 02:14:36 want to talk about? Y'all want to talk about who's facing Lil Baby? No. No? I really don't either. That's why I don't ever want to talk about them.
Starting point is 02:14:44 I don't. Good. I really didn't want to talk about this. I't never want to talk about them. I don't. Good. I really didn't want to talk about this. I don't want to talk about them. I don't care. They're nasty. R.I.P. Richard Belzer.
Starting point is 02:14:52 Oh, man. Law and order. Yeah, we got to get the law and order theme. Come on. I'm not going to play that. That might be insensitive. But...
Starting point is 02:15:02 Why? That was like his last big... That's not his whole life. Yeah, that was like... That's not everything.ensitive. But. Why? That was like his last big. That's not his whole life. Yeah, that was like. That's not everything. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:15:10 Fine. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Rest in peace, yes. Word up. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 02:15:17 That's all I got. Jenea. I also think that's part of it too like I've been dominant as a podcaster for so many years that I think y'all come in and try to just make it awkward for me I'm gonna start I think some of that is how many
Starting point is 02:15:41 let's see if we can make more awkward silences here than there's ever been on a podcast you don't think so no not me i can't speak to nobody else no sir definitely not me true all right i'm gonna find something they sleeping on out there and just that fast this record is called rain by Nicole Buss. And shout out to Nicole Buss, by the way. It go. Here's the
Starting point is 02:16:28 spy you don't know on my mind. I wish things could go back to the normal days. Summer night.
Starting point is 02:16:44 What's on your mind? Moving on ain't always easy When the rain starts dabbling down I wish I could turn back the hands of time For a little while Nights like this I wish The rain would stop coming down Coming down to my Head turned grey
Starting point is 02:17:15 Hearts grew cold Bitter leaves Are meant to heal now in your case It's not that way I do hope there'll be a day Where you will learn to love me again When the rain's like down, I lay down I wish I could turn back the hands of time
Starting point is 02:17:46 For a little while Eyes like this, I wish The rain would stop coming down Coming down to me What happened to the day When I pulled Carrie away? All the untimely rain and pain What happened to the sun?
Starting point is 02:18:14 I pray all the rain is gone And I pray it will forever feel like it's a sunny day Oh, oh, no All the days are coming down Brand new old music It's my girl Nicole Bust That record is called Rain In your phones and DSPs
Starting point is 02:18:38 Right this second That's tough That's that on that That's that Busta Rhymes shit No drill button That's tough. That's that on that. That's that Busta Rhymes shit. That shit's tough. Let me get my cord over here. All right.
Starting point is 02:18:58 I'm going to a friend of the show. This is Young Blue. This record is called Games Women Play. I used to have you blushing, baby So who you been fucking, baby? The games that women play Ooh, the games that women play You think you a player But you ain't got shit on the games that women play Yeah, just like you got a side, she got a side Just like you making time, she making time But the fucked up thing, we always be surprised We never take the time to look inside See what's on our mind, but they say love is blind I wanted you to be my bride, but I'm so cold-hearted I can't forgive like you forgive, you know this love's carbon I had to fuck that bitch, she look like Laura Harbin I guess it won't mean nothing if I say I'm sorry
Starting point is 02:19:58 She hate the games that niggas play It's hard to take, it's easy to give them games that niggas play It's hard to take It's easy to give Them games that niggas play And I'll always think of you as That one that got away My body want you to leave But girl my heart want you to stay Those games that women play Save me
Starting point is 02:20:24 You ain't tell me that you love me lately How you stay, how you blushing, baby So who you been fucking, baby? The games that women play Ooh, the games that women play You think you a player But you ain't got shit on the games that women play The games that women play Ooh on the games that women play The games that women play
Starting point is 02:20:45 Ooh, the games that women play You think you a player But you ain't got shit on the games that women play And I know my niggas like free But all the women like clean And I know a lot of men feelin' like me But don't know how to say it I know these women, they know how to pledge
Starting point is 02:21:02 I ain't no pretty boy But tell me who this dude ragged by the bed I'm jumpin jumping off the ledge It fuck my head up, now I'm seeing red You better counterfeit Thought you was true, really thought that I was blessed When it hurt so bad, you feel it in your chest I know you fuck that nigga, but tell me I'm the best I need save me You ain't tell me that you love me lately How you stay, how you blushing, baby?
Starting point is 02:21:25 So who you been fucking, baby? The games that women play Ooh, the games that women You think you a player, but you ain't got shit on The games that women play The games that women play Ooh, the games that women play You think you a player, but you ain't got shit on The games that women play You think you a player But you ain't got shit on the games that women play
Starting point is 02:21:48 I was Young Blue, the games that women play Alright, doing another front of the show This is Styles P, Portia Lights Let's do it our way, you know It's the only way to do it Shit, it's the only way we do it Yeah And it's me versus me G versus G It's the only way to do it Shit, that's the only way we do it It's me first me G verse G cuz if I die you ain't gonna rebirth me if I lose it all you ain't gonna
Starting point is 02:22:20 Reimburse me I'm in God's house, but I ain't never had a church key you in the mud if you got the drip with a derby It ain't hydrated behind Enos they are thirsty every time I say a verse it's sorta like I'm versed Yeah I'm gifted, but God bless they done cursed me Yeah, you can pray or you stay where the demons are Movin' in a European, might move to Europe or take a trip Cause out here you dead if you breathe in room Pay attention or get attention paid You don't need a barber my nigga to get an instant fade You don't need a hair salon to get it permanent
Starting point is 02:22:45 Out here they carry them flamers, and they burning it If you getting the money, my nigga, I hope you earning it In the trenches living the wrong life Well, I'm wishing you live a long life And I'm praying you get the foresight To shine on these niggas like Porsche lights Dollar dollar bill, y'all But I'ma keep it real.
Starting point is 02:23:05 A knife or a gunshot will kill y'all. Never try connecting with niggas that won't feel y'all. Get your own lane, my nigga, then you peel off. Yeah, this is OG talk. Knew I was live from the old heads with OE courts. Playing Shinobi in the bodega. Crack was bottled back then, and I had it, yeah, you know me, dawg. Had a hundred pack on me or a fifty pack on me
Starting point is 02:23:26 nowadays I lose fifty get fifty back on me and I ain't doing dirt no more cause I came from it know I get busy my nigga got my name from it they call me holiday styles around here I'm outside it's like a holiday down this ain't twitter lil nigga don't you follow me around Got a bunch of killer niggas that'll holler you down Ghosts in the trenches, living the wrong life That's Porsche Lights by Stylespeed. That was hard. Yeah, it's a tough record. Album's dope.
Starting point is 02:23:53 Album's dope. Out now. What you got, Ish? I'm going to Mario featuring Ty Dolla $ign What's the name of the record? Used to Me Real love and a shame How I call out your name Oh, it ain't been the same, baby, nah Girl, I need you back with me active, yeah I want your back with that arch in it
Starting point is 02:24:35 Cause these hoes tryna make me juicy But I know you thinkin' bout me The way I'm thinkin' bout you, yeah What it's gon' be when I pull up on you right now If I don't know you by now We gon' fuck or you gon' kick me out, baby You say I'm toxic lately But you don't wanna be riding and driving me crazy
Starting point is 02:24:56 Baby, where is the light? Girl, don't get used to your bitch If I'm not there with you Girl, don't get used to your bed If I'm not there with you Girl, don't get used to me begging But I'm fucking you tonight Cause we ain't really got a lot to say And I know what to do to drive you crazy So baby, come on, get a hit of your thing You can take advantage of me Take advantage of me, baby, I can manage it I'm only 2% and can you handle it? We got Rio on the playlist and the candles lit
Starting point is 02:25:29 I ain't fucking you tonight Back and forth, forth and back, sports positions Right the middle, you the center of attention Say my name, say my name, dollar sign Whose pussy is it, baby, tell me that it's mine And you know I came to fuck it up Can't get used to this shit I'm always somewhere else In my city, in your city girl I'm gon' pull up
Starting point is 02:25:51 Every time, you know I'm gon' show you love I just wanna be the one Don't give that pussy to no one Girl don't get used to your bed Fuck not that, but you Girl, don't get used to me begging But I'm fucking you tonight We really got a lot to say
Starting point is 02:26:17 I don't want to do to drive you crazy Baby, come on, get a hit of your head You can take advantage of me It is used to me, Mario featuring Ty Dolla $ign crazy it is used to me mario featuring ty dolla's son all right who's up yeah what's the vibes okay what are we doing what are we doing man what are we doing let me hear something okay this song is called um prosecco and honestly i don't know how to pronounce who it's by. Like straight up and down. It's like T-H and O.
Starting point is 02:26:52 Thano? Thando? Thando? Whatever. This is called Prosecco. 🎵 I can't wait till I get you home And close the door so we can just be alone Time is a weekend into the storm That we just end up wrong too, all you know Oh, you make me feel so good And I'm lying next to you
Starting point is 02:27:57 Oh, you can take me to A morning by And again and again So let's go now Sweet press echo Hold me close Please don't let go I love it when we kiss
Starting point is 02:28:42 Do you remember when we met in fiesta? You said I'd be back to a clue and I couldn't get it Said to you Remember how you let me in Hit me down though so smooth Though I can't forget it You made me feel so good When I was flying next to you
Starting point is 02:29:10 And honey, you took me to The moon and back again and again and again Sweet Prince, say go I'm holding back again and again and again and again Sweet prince, let go Hold me close Please don't let go I love the way we kiss Please don't let go Ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-da-da Oh-oh I love the way we kiss
Starting point is 02:29:48 Ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-da Sweet Prosecco Ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-da Hold me close Ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-da Please don't know. Thandos, maybe? Thandos.
Starting point is 02:30:22 Thandos. Maybe. Thando. There we go. All right, Flip. What Frankie Blue Eyes did this week in 1948. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:30:35 Your body is a wonderland. My body is a wonderland. That's my shit. That's my shit. Jersey again. Masterpiece choir. Move on. Choir mix I'm waiting with no panties on Now I ain't quite sure what you take me for But that door is calling on my name
Starting point is 02:31:08 And I told you I was in the mood You young and turning so you choosing A good time over a good name You wanna hide me but I can't We don't need a secret Just keep it 100 You got me wondering what song you'll find I can't decide if it's the truth or a lie
Starting point is 02:31:30 Baby, I don't wanna have to worry Good lovin' in the morning But I need you in the nighttime When it's lonely Don't wanna move on Don't wanna move on, don't wanna move on I don't wanna move on, but if I gotta, I'ma do it, yeah Tell me what you think if I was back up trippin', all night slippin' Don't make me have to take it that far, take it that far No need to blow up my life To waste my time, you gon' do right Ain't gotta chase you around We gon' focus, we gon' get right
Starting point is 02:32:10 We gon' stay right, cause we don't need no We don't need a secret Just keep it 100 You got me wondering what's on your mind I can't decide if it's the truth or lie Baby, I don't wanna have to worry Good lovin' in the morning But I need you when the night time When it's low-light Alright, alright. Let's move on to our masterpiece. Hey!
Starting point is 02:32:40 Jersey. Big Jersey! Shout out to Big Jersey. Keep up the good work, young lady. See you. I think y'all unpacked everything. I'm not going to lie to y'all. I think y'all, it might have been one little caveat we left out of the fourth topic
Starting point is 02:33:17 at around minute 49. Let's double back. Y'all want to go back. Yeah, let's get that. No. My Adderall's wearing off. Aw'all want to go back. Yeah, let's get that. Yeah, let's get that. No. My Adderall's wearing off. Aw. Wah, wah, wah.
Starting point is 02:33:29 Got the apart number. Oh, shit. So stupid. That's what it feels like. What has to happen for you to not cuckoo? Just leave it to the next broadcast. Just asking. I'm almost out.
Starting point is 02:34:00 Round of applause. Hey, if you plug, listen, go get lost. Yo, Adamel. Adamel. It's like Ant-Man. She has a battery in her back. Melissa Roll. Adamel only had time to shoot one gun at the gun range. That nigga was getting her out of there.
Starting point is 02:34:24 She's like, yo, yo, ma. After the nine. Right after the nine. Oh, nah, they ran out of bullets. Ah, damn. You just shot the last. Yeah. Gotta, gotta head out.
Starting point is 02:34:41 And yes, Jonathan Majors wore that shit by choice. Glad you did it. You did it. You did it, man. You did it. Whatever you was trying to do, you did it. Mic check, one, two, one, two, one, two, one, two, one, two. I feel like we touched a lot of controversial topics today
Starting point is 02:35:01 because my crew pushed me to the ledge, but then I was the only one to speak. I got to listen back to the tape on this one. That's what you think? Yeah. Okay. I got to go back and check. How much edits we did this one today?
Starting point is 02:35:13 Let's go. Just that one part, thanks to you, my man. Flip the network. Flip everyone's network. Yours, his. Nothing. Flip everyone's network Yours is Nothing Listen, keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there Until the next time
Starting point is 02:35:34 I bid you adieu Farewell, adios Arrivederci Hasta la vista Au revoir So long, goodbye Do remember Do remember
Starting point is 02:35:41 Remember, remember Life is a series of moments And moments past so let's make this one last as if it's all we We walk out in the morning All I see was an imprint of your love All I see was an imprint of your love Well, what she was supposed to still be there for if the deed was finished, Carl? Yo, Carl tried to have dark-skinned niggas acting like light-skinned niggas Walk up in the morning, you wasn't there Nigga, go sell a brick and shut up No more days, no more deeds No more days, gotta leave, gotta go and you wasn't there. Nigga, go sell a brick and shut up.
Starting point is 02:36:30 All right, we out of here, man. No, you didn't have fabric, nigga. It was game. She left. She lied. Left without a note. Took a coat. Didn't leave a toothbrush, nigga.
Starting point is 02:36:41 Be thankful. She's out of there. There you go. Sometimes that toxic girl is responsible for that classic album you put out. She left and went here to Hey, I've been up this morning.
Starting point is 02:36:55 I've been up this morning. Yeah, she drove him crazy. On another pod, we'll try to guess the young lady that did this to Carl. I bet you me or Melissa or Ish Noah. Or Flip too.
Starting point is 02:37:09 Flip, you know a lot of girls, yo. On the low. I heard that. It's ending now. It's ending now. Yeah, you my man. We gon' do a show. What's up? We gon' do a show. Nah, nah, nah. Nah. You follow your contract. You didn't check the research on what they say about me.
Starting point is 02:37:36 They say that that's true about me. Yo, how come when me and you be talking about contracts, you always bring up him? You know why? I'm inspired by him. Why, honestly? I'm inspired by him. Why? How? Because he lets your nuts hang.
Starting point is 02:37:50 Pause. Yo, y'all go sign up to Patreon right now, because I'm about to violate this nigga. Let's do it. And at $25 and $50, you can see it. Because this nigga, he about to get it. Bye. Bye. JVP. JV Bye. JVP.
Starting point is 02:38:07 JVP. We'll be without the JVP. That's the problem. It's too many. I had to read everybody's contract. Forget it. It's fine.

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