The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 746 | "Cruisin' For A Bruisin"

Starting point is 00:00:00 The thoughts views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only I Repeat it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing revealing indicting Or telling you anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals. Do not have your best interests at heart. Or our own. Enjoy the show.

Starting point is 00:00:28 So, wake it up out there. Let me not yell, some of y'all just waking up. Some of y'all just waking up, it's early in the morning. Wake it up, wake it up. Get your coffee, get your drugs, get your fucking, what else you need in the morning? A little cereal? Coochie?

Starting point is 00:00:43 Light up a cig, huh? Kill yourself. Coochie? Get some morning cancer for the cig smokers out there. Fucking what else you need in the morning? Light up a sick Get some morning cancer for the six smokers out there Hey, we can make her something we don't give a fuck about life Just smoking away tin stoves early in the morning. Oh the waking bakers. Yes. Anybody feeling good? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, good, good. I have been tracking statistics from the last few pods. Okay. Just so everyone knows, I've been tracking the words said on the pod. Yeah, look, now you got technical difficulties.

Starting point is 00:01:39 Now the part's got technical difficulties. It's cool, you're my man, you ain't go nowhere. But your time, oh man, buddy. I said to him, how is this possible? I got everybody's time. I'm not giving away if you don't want it, but I have your average word count per pod. Who wants theirs?

Starting point is 00:01:59 Who wants to know how much time per pod they talk? Me. No, you ain't the funny one. Who wants to know how much time per pod they talk? Me. No, you ain't the funny one. You still kind of funny though, I'll pull it up nigga. I don't care. Don't get bummed. Hey listen, you ain't one of the funnier ones. I'm just saying, you told me to scale it back.

Starting point is 00:02:17 Let's go Ice. Let's go Ice. Yeah, say it. That little one-liner shit is cool until you start looking at the metric. You got a good gig buddy. One- line king right there, how's everybody doing? We got Mark Lamont Hill in the building All right, we got a real good time today we got a really good show for y'all today Everybody's in a good mood good, and we got long work days ahead.

Starting point is 00:02:47 Long work days ahead, but not today. Here for a good time, not a long time today. Please. All right, let me find some Nigger Network news stuff to start with. I'm in such a good mood, and hopefully the audience is as well. We are.

Starting point is 00:03:00 I said the audience, nigga. I'm down with them watching. I don't care about y'all mood. Y'all get paid to pretend like you in a good mood even when you're not. But dumb out there, I hope y'all in a good mood. Let me see here. Let me see.

Starting point is 00:03:14 This has conducted an operation that killed Osama Bin Laden. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is dead. The United States launched a targeted operation against that compound. They did a lot of shooting, and there was a lot of blasting. Even not going through the front door, you know, you think you go through the door. If you're a normal person, you say, knock, knock, may I come in? That's a firefight. They killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.

Starting point is 00:03:45 He died like a dog. It does not mark the end of our effort. A beautiful dog. We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation. And I don't get any credit for this, but that's okay. I'm not a fool. Here we are. May God bless you.

Starting point is 00:04:03 And may God bless the United States of America. And I'm writing a book. My love is black and you see what is there? That's the way love goes Yes sir, it's when you identify the neo-ho, uh, the neo-soul-ho that you looking for in the club When this come on, you lock eyes with her Good mood, good vibes, always for the ladies, always for the ladies, always Shout to each and every one of y'all I did Here you go Shout to each and every one of y'all I did Shout to wherever you might be listening from Shout to the first and last time listeners

Starting point is 00:04:55 Shout to the hate listeners as well We couldn't do it without you Whole New York City, New York City I'm here for a good time, not a long time today. Atlanta, DC, what's going on out there? Alright. And Lynn or TC what's going on out there? Come with me don't you worry Alright I'm gonna make you crazy I'll give you the time of your life

Starting point is 00:05:33 I'm gonna take you places You've never been before And you'll be so happy that you came Oh, I'm gonna take you there, ooh, what's the deal? Yeah, yeah, yeah, what, what, what? ATL, Harlem World, ATL ATL, Harlem World, ATL 112, Harlem World, 112 112, Harlem World, 112, all the world 112, 112, all the world 112, all the world ATL, 112.

Starting point is 00:06:08 All right, we canceled Puff, not 112. Not 112. We won't stop. You don't stop. Hey. Baby, we ain't in the middle of a week. All right. We at the end of July.

Starting point is 00:06:24 That means the kids is back to school Depending on what state you live at in August August is when the pressure is on for y'all Some of y'all that have not had a fun summer August is crunch time, the shot clock is dwindling down Book your vacation plans Fuck that person that you've been holin' out off on fuckin' Go to a waterpark or some nut shit

Starting point is 00:06:47 Go to a park Shout out to the niggas in the park right now All you workin' out niggas Now this is my shit And speed Yeah, this is my shit. Speed. Microphone check, one, two, whatever. microphone check one two what is this? A podcast. Here's Joey.

Starting point is 00:07:36 Hey. Let me get these drops out of the way real quick. Come on man, my beautiful baby. I love you out there. Let's get Parks up in this piece. Let's get Ice and Itch up in this piece. Get A-Body in the game. Flip and Mel and Mark.

Starting point is 00:07:54 Mark, Mark, Mark. Don't do that. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Nick, don't add him to. Don't add him till I drop. Why? Flip and Mel. Silent.

Starting point is 00:08:04 And then welcome to our guest. OK. That's one way to drop serious. That's one way to do it. Yeah, he's my man. I fuck with you, but he can't just do that. He can't be in the drop. I'm sorry. Show how fly nigga is, just respect the nigga on the media level, I know. No, Mark know that. He's my man. He's my man on the ground right there. I didn't know that. Oh, alright. That's my man. I am so happy to be here with everybody today. I am so happy to be here. What episode is this? 746. Welcome to episode 746 of the Joe Button podcast. I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, highly favorite host, Joe Button. Man, what a beautiful day it is, man.

Starting point is 00:08:38 Thank God. There's some silence to just praise God, man. Woke us up with breath in our lungs this morning. Come on. Grateful for everything that we have you know you are crazy love you but you just that nigga the reason cuz I'm thinking God God the way you navigate through shit man is just so like fuck the elephant man I love you son is elephant no no I just love you I just want to say how much I love you oh you got an elephant.

Starting point is 00:09:05 And thank God. Come on, we can talk about an elephant. No, no. Happy birthday, Flip. Yes. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Tanner, happy birthday to Tanner.

Starting point is 00:09:11 Thank you. Your birthday was yesterday? A work? What's your birthday? I had no idea it was birthday was yesterday. Spoke to you. Happy birthday. Happy birthday.

Starting point is 00:09:21 I know. I made that a Spoke to you yesterday. We spoke yesterday, and I didn't know it was his birthday. Wow. Damn. Well, I think that I spoke to you yesterday. We spoke yesterday and I didn't know it was his birthday. Wow. Damn. Well, I'm happy he was born though. Oh, man. No, I'm happy he was born.

Starting point is 00:09:30 That's what's up. How's it feel? I don't know how old you turned, 38? 37. You turned 37? Yes. Oh, that explains a lot. You was 36.

Starting point is 00:09:38 Got it. My behavior? 37, it's time to shape up. Yeah, I'm focused. Well, at least by 38. Yeah. That's why I would like, you know, when you have time to give me the analytics that you found about, you know, how much I speak on the pod, whenever you have time. I will. I will.

Starting point is 00:09:54 I will. Anybody who wants theirs, I will give it. We ain't running from that. We ain't running from that. Word. I'm trying to have a good pod. I don't want to poke and prod, and then people get mad, start rolling their eyes at me.

Starting point is 00:10:10 To the camera, right? Yeah, yeah, I'm in a good mood. Let's not do this. Yeah, I'm in a great mood. I'll hit you with that, the office there. Some of y'all are speaking for less than three minutes per pod. Whoa. Some of y'all are speaking for less than two minutes per pod.

Starting point is 00:10:24 Really? And we'll address it all at the end of everyone's turn. No way. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. Parks is safe, but anybody else, we got to talk. And I used to say too, I guess he just saw this shit. Uh, I'm in a really great mood. I hope everyone else is too.

Starting point is 00:10:40 We are. We are. We are. I'm in a good mood. I have beside me Big Mel. Big Mel is in the building. Who do you? Who do you? Flip is in the building. Mark Lamont. Hill is too. We are. We are. We are. I have beside me, Big Mel. Big Mel is in the building. Who do you? Who do you? Flip is in the building. Mark Lamont Hill is here. Ice is here. Parks is here. Ian is here. Keeb is here. Corey is here. Poet's here. Imani is here. Erickson

Starting point is 00:10:55 is here. How is everybody doing? How's everybody feeling? What's popping? What's popping? Bro, I feel good bro. How's everybody's summer so far? I've had a great summer man. I can't complain. Didn't the people say they didn't like when you did this? What? No, ask how everybody's doing. Which is an indictment against y'all. Come on, stop trying to make me,

Starting point is 00:11:13 I'm not shooting at y'all. I'm not shooting at nobody. But hold on, no no no, cause you can't be in there. I'm done asking niggas how they weekend was, cause y'all niggas not lit. Now I'm asking about summer. Summer.

Starting point is 00:11:23 How's everyone's summer going? How's it been? Summer's been cool bro. Do we plan on ending with a bang? Half to, half to end the summer with a bang. Summer's been cool, I caught a couple shows, y'all know. Had a little, been outside a little bit, so. Lot of shows, lot of shows, lot of shows.

Starting point is 00:11:38 Lot of shows, lot of shows. It felt good to be back and seeing shows again. That's true. Yeah. That's true. Summer's good for me. You know, just. Making money. Making that fanny. We see you.

Starting point is 00:11:49 Good for you. Congrats. Once I triple it up, I'm out. But you know, summer's good. Summer's good. Summer's great, man. I got to, you know, you my man. You might be out before then.

Starting point is 00:11:59 Oh, you must be tripling up soon. Tomorrow? You close to your dreams. You know what happened last time. I'm joking. Yo, everything I say when I sit down here is a joke. I'm not serious about none of it. Refer to the tag in the front. The end. They won't. They won't. At all. No, they won't. We was talking about shows. Do y'all want to start with nobody being able to perform in Toronto? We could.

Starting point is 00:12:26 We could. We could. Who's the latest that got? Sir. Sir. Who's the latest? I fucked with Sir, but this was hilarious. Because when the Schoolboy show got canceled,

Starting point is 00:12:36 somebody tweeted Sir and said, I guess you're going to be the next one to be canceled. This was like two weeks ago. I guess you're going to be the next one to be canceled, because they just canceled Schoolboy. He retweeted that and said, my shit ain't canceled. This was like two weeks ago. I guess you're gonna be the next one to be canceled because they just canceled Schoolboy. He retweeted that and said, my shit ain't canceled. And then, went in earlier this morning,

Starting point is 00:12:51 said damn this tweet aged like shit. It was like, oh you must've got canceled. I wish they'd tell us why their shows are getting canceled. The police are canceling them. No, they can't perform here, that's why it's canceled. But the police are canceling them. It don't matter who canceling it. It's coming from't perform here. That's why it's canceled. But the police are canceling them. It don't matter who canceling it. It's coming from, we know where it's coming from.

Starting point is 00:13:08 Listen, I'm going to give y'all a list. That's why it's corny. And anybody on this list cannot perform here. Sirs on TV? No fly zone. Yes. Yes. No fly zone.

Starting point is 00:13:16 We've all heard that before. So they basically go to the police and say there's going to be a problem if they cancel. No. They just flexing muscle. But I'm saying, but the police are the ones canceling it. That's what I'm saying. Well, they're not. for the Schoolboy show,

Starting point is 00:13:27 they were saying police did it, but then police put out something and said, we didn't do it. The police put a response. My point is, there's no way of knowing exactly why, right? We are speculating that OVO has deaded any TDE member from performing, we're speculating.

Starting point is 00:13:40 That seems pretty obvious at this point. Yes. Niggas couldn't hear the Sur Slaps in Toronto at all? Toronto. No, no got the R&B dudes involved. Yes. That's crazy. Yes You like this? I respect it. I'm saying I like it. Listen, we did the same shit in Jersey. I respect it Why you don't respect it more? Put your mic a little closer. I respect it if you win the battle Cuz then you dance on the grave you look you look like a sucker if you if you lose. Cause then you dance in the grave. You look like a sucker if you lose. Now you're saying now you can't come to my,

Starting point is 00:14:07 now your R&B singers can't come and perform in my country. While everybody's still popping shit. So now I'm, okay I might've lost the battle, I'ma win the war. I'ma flex real muscle. Y'all can't come here. I run this time on you. It seems like sore loser shit a little bit.

Starting point is 00:14:21 But at the same time I respect it. 100% that is. I'm not, he lost. I didn't even know he had much power to do that though. Are you kidding me? I didn't. This is the person that said, I know you got some issues,

Starting point is 00:14:30 but I can get you through the border. Yeah. When that man can do that, he got a different type of power over there. And it's not even Toronto, it's Canada. Yeah, he's like the unofficial, he's got like the keys to the city, the country, the province.

Starting point is 00:14:43 Yeah, but he's considered like a national treasure. How long you knew this for? Everybody knows it. Everybody knows it. Don't start your shit. Do you get the updates in your email? No, I do not. In your Canada email?

Starting point is 00:14:55 Because you get notifications. Well, let me just say this. Gossip. Hey, my ex is still powerful. I ain't going to stop my shit because if he says the talking, that means Drake might've said, yo, you better not, you better be up there, Saboteur. Yo, you're not up here as a Drake mole, are you?

Starting point is 00:15:11 Uh-oh. No. No, dead ass. What the fuck? Saboteur! You speak to him a lot. And I'm down with you. I'm down with you. I don't want you so close to me if you a Drake mole. You have to move to that couch. I am not a Drake mole. I am not. I take your word. I believe you.

Starting point is 00:15:24 I believe you. Trust me. You give me your to that couch. I am NOT a Drake mole. I am NOT. I take it This is why I will shoot Drake a little bail on the soil sore loser point if he was the sorest of losers He would let them niggas come and then do something to him Well, no because if you do that then you sure trick wasn't gonna stop y'all from coming to Detroit. Again Detroit is different from Toronto. Different people we talking about too though. Trick trick wanted y'all to get on the plane to come to Detroit, shout out Detroit, shout out to D, shout out where, shout out Trick. Shout out to Trick. It's different niggas.

Starting point is 00:15:54 Trick was, hey come on. Yeah. I got your rider. I got everything you need at the show. You talking about. And then what happened? Street dudes though. Exactly right.

Starting point is 00:16:04 That's totally different. E40 and Biggie. Street dudes. Yo Exactly. Right. That's totally different. I believe- E40 and Biggie. Street dudes. Yo, watch your mouth. No, he booked them niggas through pennies at Biggie, nigga. Don't bring that up again. What? He booked Biggie and threw pennies at him.

Starting point is 00:16:12 You did? Y'all in New York, though. Don't bring that up again. I'm not in New York. I'm from New York. You wanna talk about the shit you said about Biggie and Pop? We're in New Jersey. Yo, all right.

Starting point is 00:16:20 I'm saying what I said about Biggie and Pop. We took it out. We took it out. You didn't say it. That's because y'all are pussy. I talk. So say it again. I talk on a talk show. So I don't need y'all to edit me, nigga.

Starting point is 00:16:29 Sometimes. But I'm a good guy. I don't need y'all to edit. I'll call Parks late at night when I need that. No, you needed that edit, though. I don't think so. Mark, I was doing a what if. OK.

Starting point is 00:16:40 I didn't say it. I said, what if Biggie and Pop were the biggest, was the biggest bisexual hip hop battle ever in the history of hip hop? Yeah. You said it in another life. Why is that so bad to say? You mean like, you think it might have been possible or you just speculating on some? Well, it's rude and impolite to guess someone's sexuality.

Starting point is 00:17:06 Right. That's rude. That's true. So I've never even... Especially if it's a legend. Especially if it's a legend. Well, that's what you should be able to do it. Hey, man, I have to think of that for a little bit. He might have been. Dog, I listen to too much Biggie. So as an adult now, all of the lyrics that as a writer, I wasn't sure I would have put there, it's made me wonder from time to time. That's why I assume he's not, because if he was actually in the closet,

Starting point is 00:17:33 Biggie wouldn't write that shit. Exactly, back then. He wouldn't be so, you know, I ain't gonna say him, but you know what I mean? In the closet means nobody knows. Yes, it means you're hiding your sexuality. So you don't talk about what you were doing to somebody's daddy or... I'm not saying that, he was closeted.

Starting point is 00:17:46 Yo, shut your ass up, see? This is why we edited this shit. Back then it was frowned upon, so he wouldn't, like... It still is. I agree with him. Like, back then it was frowned upon. See, y'all make it, y'all make it like this tasteful with your thoughts about... Being bisexual.

Starting point is 00:18:02 Yeah. Back then... But I don't have a problem with Biggie or Pock being bisexual they still two of the best rappers ever if they were and again I'm not saying that they were I'm saying that that juices that beef up a little more in my mouth That's what the energy is. The juice of the beef. Pun intended, juicy like dog. That's like a quadruple entendre. Yeah, that's what I said.

Starting point is 00:18:30 We edited it out. I didn't think it was the biggest deal. You said it a little differently too. My crew is so pussy that when I just say shit that I think is normal, they get the No. No. Sometimes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, a way to come articulated the way I needed to say it, which I implore you all to do.

Starting point is 00:19:05 Yeah, but if we didn't edit it out, you wouldn't have found a way to articulate it. No, I don't have time to talk about it. That's what I said about the Big M box shit. That's all. Now, what was I talking about? I remember once before how we were talking about the... It's about Drake. The point for me is Drake isn't built for street shit, right?

Starting point is 00:19:21 And he don't pretend he is. So he's not going to... How do we know that? No, he do pretend. He pretend a he is. So he's not going to insist. How do we know that? No, he do pretend he is. He pretend a little bit. He pretend. Fair enough.

Starting point is 00:19:28 Mob ties. Fair enough. Fair enough. I think it's smart to say, don't come to my, like you can invite him to your city, get him touched, but then Drake gotta go on the road. Drake gotta travel everywhere. And Drake don't want to deal with that in every city.

Starting point is 00:19:41 He don't want to go to Oakland and deal with that. He don't want to go to LA and deal with that. He don't want to go to Detroit and deal with that. So he'd rather just cancel their shows. I guess I will shoot Drake a little bit of bail and that maybe he's more concerned about what his associates may do than anything else. He could potentially be doing on some, you know, let me just avoid this mess by... That's smart. That's a good one. By canceling your shows?

Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah. Yeah. He's helping you out. He might be. Man, I think that man just petty, and this is like, this is my way of getting a ha ha at you. And I'm not thinking about what could happen to you or nothing. It's, oh, you coming here? No, you're not.

Starting point is 00:20:17 And I'm going to show you that you can't come here. None of y'all. Because you beat me into beef. Because you beat me into battle, basically. Because your man beat me into battle. Because I'm me in a battle, basically. Because your man beat me in a battle. Although, when I talk to Drake's people, some of Drake's people, the way they frame it is, we're not mad that we lost the beef, we're mad that he made me a pedophile.

Starting point is 00:20:34 That's what they say. Every time I talk to them, they say the same thing. We don't care about the rap shit, but now you turn me into a pedophile, which is the worst thing you could do to a person. And I'm like, I don't think people really think Drake is a pedophile. A pedophile? I mean, it might, pedophiles a lot. Hey y'all, y'all taking my biggie box to another level. All right. But I'm just saying that that's the thing. So they argue, that's how they judge.

Starting point is 00:20:59 Cause you can't justify shutting somebody out of a city forever because, because you lost a battle. My only problem with that and I'm not here to rehash the beef, but my problem with that is Kendrick said, leave this alone. I'll leave it alone. He came with the allegations. And then that led to, yeah, right after Kendrick said, leave it alone. I'll leave it alone. Drake said, you're beating your wife. Why? Why y'all not married? Been a long engagement.

Starting point is 00:21:25 I'm hiking down the mountain. I'm talking out of breath because you're short. Like, you said a lot of shit. Your shoe's a little. Now don't be mad because one person's mud stuck. Right. But even in the mud sticking, right? And that again, the difference between

Starting point is 00:21:41 Kendrick, when he put the lines together, like when I be dissing niggas I'd be trying to be lyrical. Kendrick every line was not trying to be lyrical. No he wasn't. He was trying to find the most clever way for these things these points to stick to the world that don't even care about lyrics and he succeeded in that. Drake on the you beat your wife shit he didn't make it Drake on You Beat Your Wife shit, he didn't make it slappy enough. He didn't do that. He harmonized a minor on a drop. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:10 He breezed through it. Yeah. Y'all see DJ Scheme playing on Not Like Us over there. That's all right. Not Like Us still on the charts. I do think that's impressive. It is. It is.

Starting point is 00:22:22 Still on the charts. Three or four. Somewhere around the Tommy Rich guy that everybody loves. It's still. It is. It is. Still on the charts, three or four, somewhere around the Tommy Rich guy that everybody loves. It's still a top record. I know people saying that. That's a song of the summer. We tried to debate about it for a little bit, but it's a song of the summer.

Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah. Is it the biggest rap, is it the biggest battle song ever now? Yes, I would think so. Nah, I wouldn't. I'm not saying. What's bigger? The biggest, not the best, the biggest.

Starting point is 00:22:42 Well, wait, biggest in terms of what? In terms of numbers, streaming? Airplanes, like, okay. I mean, that, right, which you can just measure, but also like impact on the culture, impact on society, like. Hit them up. Yes. Hit them up, took us by storm.

Starting point is 00:22:53 I still don't, I don't have back, not like us beating back to back still. Shit. Oh no. Shit. Nah, it beats back to back. I don't think so. I don't know if it beats, hit them up. I don't know if it beats, hit them up. I don't know if it beats, hit them up.

Starting point is 00:23:06 I gotta see how long. Because music don't last too much today. So hit them up when it came out. There was the phase where we had to find a mixtape with it. Then it was the phase where it spread, we in the streets, then it may be picked up and then it played for the next however many years. Today, I don't know if life expectancy of music is that.

Starting point is 00:23:24 So I think you gotta judge things on a scale a little bit. A different scale. Curve. Not like us will be one of the biggest diss songs ever. It will be one of. Yeah for sure. Not that we have to be. I don't think I have any more Drake news. I'm still blasting that Gordo. That shit is fire. That shit is fire. On the don't wanna live away no more. That shit is fire. On the weekend too, I was moving around. That shit felt good. What else is important? I would get into the Tory shit, but they're gonna say I'm thirsty to get into the Tory shit.

Starting point is 00:23:53 But I am thirsty. We can do it all week. I'm thirsty. Come on, I'm thirsty. Come on, let's go. Let's get it. Let's do it. Am I starting?

Starting point is 00:24:01 Of course you are. Pussy. Nigga, I'm right behind you. Nigga, you gotta step on a ledge on this one. Okay, no I don't. See, that's my problem again. Other people's ledge, I don't view that as my ledge. Any of y'all out there that believe that Tory Lanez picked up a gun while he was with two girls that he popped them both said dance bitch and shot her in the foot I stand by you're an idiot I never left that I never left it now I'm not saying that he don't deserve to be where he is because the charge don't have nothing to do with none

Starting point is 00:24:38 of that exactly yes but even in that there was politics in that court case and the more that comes out I'm feeling Tory Lane's dad being mad. Anybody that knows what happened. So the driver came out and gave his statement finally. Affidavit. And in that statement, he details, this is like our first real account. I don't really listen to Kelsey, Meg, and Tory,

Starting point is 00:25:00 because they wasn't afraid of it. The driver got low. So this is our first account from somebody who was there that's not, that just got low, never gave a story. And he says, we got in the car, the two, that's when it came out that he was fucking both of us, or both of them rather. They said, pull the car over, one went to a bus stop,

Starting point is 00:25:20 Tory went over there, consoled her, they got back in the car, drove a little more, then they stopped again then they both didn't record in the driver Kelsey and Meg get out started arguing started arguing and fighting Kelsey pulls a hammer Tori goes grabs Kelsey and the driver says he did not see who pulled the trigger because his back was turned But the gun went off So that's what we have there for some that changes absolutely nothing for some it changes everything I Never believed that I I believe the whole time that Tory really liked Meg

Starting point is 00:25:56 He did it definitely changes her accounts of what happened when she went Oh, was that with Gail and said that he said dance or whatever whatever but in terms of the trial and shit, I don't think it changed anything because again, he was arrested for holding a gun. Or wielding a firearm in some type of way, correct? Now, I mean, maybe Shorty should have been prosecuted in the same manner, but I guess because she cooperated.

Starting point is 00:26:21 Well, that's where the politics come in because she got the immunity deal. Yeah. Why do we trust the politics come in, because she got the immunity deal. Yeah. Why do we trust the driver? We know. Okay. And my other thing is I looked at, I read that whole thing, that shit was dated December.

Starting point is 00:26:34 Why are we just seeing this now? Like, after everything? And why? They didn't submit it. What's that? They didn't submit it, and they didn't want to cross examine him. I read somewhere, and I don't know if this is factual, but they said that the defense didn't want to break him up because it didn't submit it and they didn't want to cross examine him. I read somewhere I don't know if this is factual But they said that the defense didn't want to break him up because it didn't necessarily clarify the situation for their kids

Starting point is 00:26:51 Again, we read the charges at least impeach the the other witness I mean because part of what you want to do is you want to impeach the other witness, right? So so if his account makes Meg's account seem untruthful Even if it brings in a whole bunch of other stuff, then the jury might be like, well, I don't know who to believe. And if I'm on trial for something and the jury's like, I don't know who to believe,

Starting point is 00:27:11 that's what I want. That's reasonable doubt. That's the whole point of the trial is reasonable doubt. Only one juror has to basically just feel like. But they had the witness that lived in the house that said he saw the little one. But the witness was also accused of speaking to the DA. Yeah, again, coming out the building.

Starting point is 00:27:35 The witness was also coming off the elevator with the DA. Exactly, accused of that. My thing is that Meg has, shout out to her, she has went out her way to tell this story and to paint Tory in the light, and rightfully so. But if this is true, then her whole credibility is shot. See, I don't say rightfully so, because he shot me and I got shot are not the same.

Starting point is 00:27:56 True. Rightfully so meaning whatever her reason is, I don't know, I'm not in her mind. I could just speak for me that I look at her differently. I was already reluctant initially, but now I look at, okay, now you just lied on the nigga. And you, but why, but why couldn't the driver be lying if I'm employed by him, this is my guy.

Starting point is 00:28:17 So I'm going to write up whatever I need to write up to make him look good. If you look at the steps that it took, remember Kelsey asked for immunity. That should have said something. You know, everybody breezed past it to look at the steps that it took, Mema Kelsey asked for immunity. That should've said something. Everybody breezed past it to look at Tori, but that should've said, like, why the? And it said something to some of us, like, why she asked for that in the beginning.

Starting point is 00:28:33 Not only did she ask for immunity, then got on the stand and said, I don't remember anything. So this just make it look a little bit different. I kind of believe, I've said it for a while, that I don't know if anybody really knows who pulled the trigger that you said Let them getting shot. It sounds like it sounds like it was a big fracas. Yes Oh, yeah, I mean I hate y'all. Why he's right. He said that there before I did say that stand by

Starting point is 00:28:56 I believe I believe Meg I believe Meg from the beginning the phone call from jail for Tory was the thing to me that put It over the top. Um, He sounded like somebody who did something. He sounded guilty and the physical evidence seems to be consistent with him doing it. Nah, nah, nah. No. Because that phone call could have literally, again, they just- He apologized for something.

Starting point is 00:29:14 They just found out that he was fucking both of them. I'm apologizing for shooting you. Yeah. He is accountable for the events that led up to that. If you fucked her and you fucked a friend and now they fighting and it's a big fight and somebody ends up getting injured, if you a man, see that's why there's man rules

Starting point is 00:29:31 and how the society views an apology is just very different. Society views an apology as an admission of guilt. Man rules is as a man you say sorry when you're wrong. I'm even sorry that this whole thing happened. Yes. I'm sorry I put you in a- That's what you should say at the crib. No, you can say that from jail.

Starting point is 00:29:47 When you have time to think, yo I'm sorry I put you in that position. Yeah, but when you're in jail, you know that every single phone call is being recorded. That's what I'm saying. Y'all believe that Tory Lane shot her in the foot. Yes. Absolutely.

Starting point is 00:29:59 You believe that he's a dance bitch. That I can't say, you know what I mean? It's hard for me to believe that she would make that up. if I had to put my money on it I would say yes. It's hard for you to believe that she would make up saying dance bitch. If I begin from the premise that he shot her then I have no reason I'm trusting her account and so then yeah I would be I it's more likely that he said that than he didn't say that. I think that's scary. All right so let me ask you a question. Very. So you said you have a hard time believing that she would't say that. I think that's scary. All right, so let me ask you a question. Very. So you said you have a hard time believing that she would lie about that? About that particular detail, yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:31 So when she went on there and gelled and lied that she even fucked him. I could totally see that. So it's clear that you will lie about some shit involving this dude. I don't think that she's above not telling the truth. I don't think anybody's above not telling the truth. But there are certain lies that people tell.

Starting point is 00:30:44 Women often talk about, women often get shamed for their sex partners. They often get discredited for their sex partners. They get judged for their sex partners. How many, how often, who, you know what I mean? I can see that. And again, if it's just a he said, she said, I'm not saying lock them up.

Starting point is 00:30:57 For me, it's the, she said it, she's the witness, which is different. But Ma, Ma, I'm sorry, but you just gave her an out. What I'm saying is that if you lied about having sex with somebody, you can lie about anything. You lied in front of a girl, you can't say, oh, I understand why she would lie about that. You went up there to garner sympathy

Starting point is 00:31:14 and to, for whatever reason it looked like. But if you lied about fucking him, you capable of lying about anything. Sure. Because the fucking him is what led to the fight. Exactly. No, but hear me, what I'm saying is, if it was just her account, then I would say, yeah, he shouldn't be guilty,

Starting point is 00:31:28 because he said she said. But I'm saying, if you add that, she's saying he shot me, which got to count for something. Right? Because if you walk into me right now and shoot me, the cops say, I said, he said, she said. Mark said, queen shot. No, I got shot.

Starting point is 00:31:41 That's not as simple as that, though. But there's another witness. It's not. But you got another witness. This is not, but you got another witness. This is the little guy shoots the shooter. You got physical. What witness said that? The dude from the window.

Starting point is 00:31:50 The neighbor that was in the window. He didn't say he shot. He didn't say that. I saw a gun go off and he said he saw the little guy with the gun. Right, so now, so he's in possession of the gun. That's after he wrestled her. He spoke to them.

Starting point is 00:32:03 The prosecutor. Yes. And just say if that was the case. Remember the driver said he was trying After he wrestled her, he spoke to them. The prosecuting office. And just say if that was the case, remember the driver said he was trying to take the gun from her. So if he was successful, he would be the guy with the gun. Yo, I don't even want to get into the he say, she say part of this.

Starting point is 00:32:16 All of them involved have reason to lie. True. Everybody there has reason to lie. So I'm not really going with who do I trust more. I'm just going with nigga thoughts. For real, what is more likely? Tory leaves the studio, goes to Kylie Jenner's house, is having a blast, think he about to get the foursome popping off. Meg gets jealous, we know how they got in the car. What's more likely that Tory was just so angered in that car that he took Kelsey's

Starting point is 00:32:48 gun and shot her? Because there's a few people that listen, some people know who's going to. Listen, that's that part. I can't share how we know who's going to. So he took her gun and shot her. Why? Why was he so mad? Because that's the scary part. That's back to that whole man

Starting point is 00:33:06 versus bear in the wood. You don't think a man is just shooting a girl for no reason. Give me the reason. Because the only reason we got was I said that I had more number ones than him. I shit on this career. You telling me now you're telling me that the male ego is a motherfucker. It ain't that much of a motherfucker. It ain't that much I'm talking about. It ain't that much. Or what's more believable. Two people that was running around as best friends, new in the music industry, one gets COVID, comes back, finds out her best friend is fucking a nigga that she is fucking over. And they drunk and high.

Starting point is 00:33:37 That's the other piece of it. And this nigga just was about to get some Kylie Jenner ass. We just left here. We made him leave. Hey, get out the pool. Come on, you come with us. That guy is shooting, no, that guy wants to go back. That guy wants to leave y'all

Starting point is 00:33:51 and double back the Kylie Jenner stuff. Even if he drunk it hard, and his ego been bruised, and he's angry. I mean, people do crazy shit. Jail's a field where people are making irrational decisions. That's true, but you believe that is more likely than the girl situation? I don't think they necessarily compete in stories.

Starting point is 00:34:09 The beef could have started with them going at it. It could have been her gun. If it starts there, then how does Tori end up in shooting somebody? Again, male ego get bruised, disrespect, frustration, high, drunk, not all the way sane, any of these things. I'm not saying he's not, I'm saying all this is- I believe he's ill-tempered. Yeah this- I believe he's ill-tempered.

Starting point is 00:34:26 Yeah. I do believe he's ill-tempered. I'm saying niggas get shot for ill, and I'm sure y'all have something for less than that. I've never seen a celebrity do it. That's fair. I've never seen a celebrity shoot somebody for less. People that have a lot going on.

Starting point is 00:34:37 He has a lot, he had a lot going on. One of the hottest artists out. Now, not as successful as her at the time. But I'm not, I'm pressed to believe that- Rappers do time for shit. I really just don't think that all of that is being taken into account in this heated moment, like you said, that is fueled by drugs and alcohol.

Starting point is 00:34:53 But wait, in the heated moment, why is Tory heated? I got one number one. Somebody tell me why Tory Lanez would be heated in that moment. I popped you, I popped you, I'm the one that want to tell about it Well, I can certainly see him being very annoyed I don't think I still think that it wasn't necessarily him intentionally shooting if he did in fact was the person that bullet-jigger

Starting point is 00:35:13 I think it was a recklessness And recklessness is still different than he shot me which has been my beef with Meg this entire time. Gotcha. Why would she make it up? Well, first of all, I think it's above her. I don't think she made it up. Okay.

Starting point is 00:35:33 It's above her. She's a mere pawn in this. She's not, she's, this play is greater than her. She didn't make nothing up. I ain't gonna say who I think made it up. Okay. But it wasn't her. Okay. And who set the play to make sure it gets out that way and stays that way? Yeah. Well actually niggas out there know who it is. I ain't saying it. But I know exactly who it is. I know how that gun got there. I know

Starting point is 00:35:58 who gun it was. And I thought it was weird that the last time we talked about this shit Kelsey jumped in my DMs on my A, don't talk about this no more. Why, you got immunity? That's odd. It's just odd. Why wouldn't you want somebody to talk about one of the biggest cases in half a million years? That was odd to me. Yeah, I think this is a scary state, if that's what we think of black men. It's a really scary state.

Starting point is 00:36:23 But I don't think it's about how we see black men. I think it's black men... You's a really scary state. But I don't think it's about how we see black men. I think it's black men. You just took one of, you just took somebody that's in the top 5% and said he'll shoot somebody because male ego is, you said that. No, I didn't say it, I said it after he got locked up for shooting somebody. Like I didn't look at him and say,

Starting point is 00:36:37 that's a nigga that'll shoot somebody. I'm saying basically- He did not get locked up for shooting somebody. And that's really the problem. Like that's not what he was locked up for. What I'm saying- That's where everybody's emotions got involved when we're talking about the case is, then did he shoot her, did he not shoot her?

Starting point is 00:36:51 That's not what the trial is about. That's not what the trial is about. That's not what the trial is about, but that's fair. But my point is, I don't believe that black men are prone to violence or more likely to shoot one person than another person. I just think in this particular case, given all the evidence, he seems inclined to do that.

Starting point is 00:37:04 I don't think most black men are. I just think based on what I learned from him about this case he seemed like somebody that would do that. I don't know. I can't you know I can't speak to it. I ain't gonna speak to him. I mean I ain't gonna speak to that part. Yeah. I don't know nobody well enough to know if they're gonna kill somebody or not. That's fair. Well some people do but I don't talk about that anyway. Listen, I mean, like we said, it don't change the charge. It don't change what you in there for. I still don't think we'll ever know the real full truth, unless some miraculous fucking ring camera comes out.

Starting point is 00:37:35 See, that's the other part to me. I do believe in this day and age. It's hard to believe there's no camera. No footage, which further makes me believe in the political accusation. I don't really think. I believe it, bro. I think that the simplest answer is often the best one. Sometimes things look complicated and it's a conspiracy. Sometimes it's just what it looks like.

Starting point is 00:37:56 I agree. Just not here. Fair enough. Just not here, but I do agree with that. Fam, something happened today, they got camera footage from everywhere in a matter of minutes Good shit, so we're good. Nice crisp

Starting point is 00:38:08 So what you think that it was like that there was cameras and just the video evidence was suppressed Total conspiracy I'm not no, I'm not sense. I just believe there's a reason we didn't see video. I think there is video I would never know that reason. I believe that they found some, you can't walk down the street without, walk down the street without being on somebody's camera. I might be mistaken, this is a literal question, but didn't this take place in like a laneway, like an alleyway?

Starting point is 00:38:38 No? It was on the street. It was on the street. Okay. Like a residential neighborhood. I know the street that they were on, but I thought that the vehicle had kind of pulled out and ended up on the street. Okay. Like a residential neighborhood. I know the street that they were on, but I thought that the vehicle had kind of pulled out and ended up on the main street,

Starting point is 00:38:49 but the whole altercation took place in like an alleyway, and if that was the fact, then I could see why there wouldn't be any cameras kind of, or very few cameras facing an alleyway. If there was an accusation of it being at a bus stop, that in particular, I would think that there would be some surveillance because bus stop is fucking public property government property. But they'd be blind spots. Yeah, no doubt. Again, it could be a conspiracy. I don't know. I tend to not believe

Starting point is 00:39:14 conspiracies for the most part. Me too. How many women you ask, well, well you married now or some shit, so let me, how many women are you familiar with from Texas? Oh, I spent some time in Texas I've dated women from Texas. Um How were they temper wise the calmest women I've Especially once from Houston, I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just like, you know, I'm not I get it southern I Get it. I get it shit in South North people be happy people be hot temper, you know,, I get it, southern, I get it, I get it. Shit, in south north, people be hot tempered. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:39:49 But I get the Texas thing. No, no more in the south will bitch and shit you. Than up here. And the carry down there, everybody got a gun in Texas. It's a little different. That's true. They will back out on you fast. And if this story is true and then I move on,

Starting point is 00:40:03 then why are Meg and Kelsey now speaking? I? Mean it the whole sex thing is enough right yes. I hate y'all no Women women have not spoken for less not no Something traumatic happens a lot of times that makes the situation immense the situation mark Lamar Hill Makes the situation immense the situation mark Lamar Hill. I keep trying to leave this Mark Lamar Hill if their best friends and I'm rolling with your story of Tory Lane's He's gonna and he shot her. Yeah. Yeah, that ain't the time that best friends stop talking. She is I stay here for you I go to the trial and I'm not fucking with you no more because you still fuck my dude. That's the energy. Yo, Mark stop it.

Starting point is 00:40:46 And that was, and that's- What would you say? I mean, you're a woman. Wait, wait, wait. No. Oh shit. What's here, Mel? That is what,

Starting point is 00:40:55 I just walked into something. No, you didn't. No. No, you didn't. I agree with you in terms of that being enough to completely end a friendship because of the fact that Kelsey was fucking him first and then Meg came behind her back.

Starting point is 00:41:11 That is some serious betrayal shit. That is some shit I would never speak to you again, regardless of what unfolded. That is- But you wouldn't shoot her. So it's serious betrayal, but you wouldn't shoot her. Yeah, you can not speak to somebody and not wanna shoot them. Hey, dawg. You can't be like, yo, I don't fuck her no more, like, but I'm not't shoot her. Yeah, you can not speak to somebody and not want to shoot them. Hey dog. You can't be like, yo, I don't fuck her no more.

Starting point is 00:41:28 There's definitely people that I would like to shoot. Definitely people I would like to shoot, but do I think, but will I actually do it? No. Can I say something? Now, hold on real fast. The people that you might really want to shoot, in the moment, you drunk and high and got the gun.

Starting point is 00:41:44 You think you thinking logically or you thinking I'ma shoot this motherfucker? Me, yes, I am thinking logically. But you're drunk and high. I understand that. I have been drunk and high in many situations and I walked out of it relatively unscathed. I didn't beat anyone up, I didn't kill anybody.

Starting point is 00:42:00 I didn't do the whatever. Why is it impossible that Kelsey could not shoot somebody drunk and high? But wait, I want to go back to what you said. You said that, real quick, when you had your accident, a lot of people reached out to you to check on you. Yeah. And you said even some people that you didn't think

Starting point is 00:42:14 that would reach out to you. No, no, no, no. It was the opposite. A lot of people posted about me but did not reach out to me. I just wanted to make sure. OK, OK. What did you just say, Jo? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:42:22 But I think that that lends to what you And when she sees him, she's gonna shoot him. No, but I think that that lends to what you were saying about the interview with Gayle, why she would lie about having sex with him because of the shame that's often associated with women having partners, and also fucking your friend's man is not the shit that you wanna tell the world you actually fucking did when your whole,

Starting point is 00:42:39 you know, kind of persona is based on being a fucking girl's girl. So I agree with all of that. I agree with that, but wouldn't there- That's a good point. I agree with that, but wouldn't there be more reasons to lie? I agree with those being reasons to lie. I just think that there's more reasons to lie. Because that adds a motive. To me, what ended up happening is this situation became larger than life, and I do believe

Starting point is 00:43:02 that there were puppet know like puppet masters in this whole situation and Meg was the one who was forward-facing and she was forced to make you know decisions in real time and speak on things that she was not prepared to speak on. She's a young girl, she lost, she's lost her parents, she's like I think that so much pressure was put on her to be perfect and answer the questions that would be acceptable that she just, she made a lot of missteps and a lot of people penalized her for it.

Starting point is 00:43:30 That's a really good point. But if she lied, she deserved to be penalized. Y'all be putting all these fucking women's standards on slides. I'm out of here. I'm done with y'all. Y'all all it all is. I'm just gonna say one word, patriarchy.

Starting point is 00:43:41 Okay, but go on. That's the word. How is that patriarchy? It's not an example, but you wanna talk about- Not you, the system. The system is, it's the system with women. It's the same shit with black men. If a black man gets shot, you can't be like,

Starting point is 00:43:53 well, he was a drug dealer. Because if you're a drug dealer, I still shouldn't get shot by the police, but we always gotta have him on a horse. We gotta show he's going to college. We gotta say all this great shit about him, because if not, then suddenly he's not a sympathetic victim. Same thing with, I'm saying with Meg,

Starting point is 00:44:07 it's like oh, if she fucked a dude, if she fucked a dude or she fucked her homegirl's dude, then whatever happened to her she deserves because she's not the right kind of woman. That's what I'm saying. Nobody says she deserves. That's the patriarchal law. A lot of people said that.

Starting point is 00:44:18 A lot of people were saying that was some public sentiment that she deserved what she got because she was fucking her friend's man. Okay,, let me Myself I'm not saying she deserved anything that happened to her. We're just speaking on the who did it part and That key piece of information at the time finding out that yo You was fucking on your friends do your friend is upset and your friend had a gun and you're not Not speaking to your friend talking so And you're not speaking to your friend anymore. Y'all still ain't talking.

Starting point is 00:44:45 So that could say, oh, maybe the friend shot you. That sounds a lot worse than, hey, this guy has an ego and it's bruised. I've seen niggas do wild shit when their ego is bruised. It don't take a lot. I agree with that. I do agree with that. I just don't think that when you hold it up

Starting point is 00:45:00 against this other stuff that it holds. But I do agree with that. Male ego is fragile as hell. Listen, I hate to sound like I care a lot about this. Nanny Tory Lane's found his fucking studio jail, Pro Tools. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm sorry. I do what, I do want Tory to come home cause I feel like it's fucked up, but I'm getting the slaps. I'm here for the slaps.

Starting point is 00:45:26 If I'm not having Thanksgiving dinner with none of you niggas, I am here for the slaps. That's it. Yeah. I ain't heard none of it. How good is it? It's good. It's pretty good.

Starting point is 00:45:39 I heard like his engineers should get an award. I heard like the actual sound quality. Yeah. The sound quality was fantastic. Yeah, it sound like he in the basement studio. How you do that? They got technology. They updated jail, man.

Starting point is 00:45:51 They got tablets and chips. They got tablets. Yeah, my brother call me to jail every day with a tablet. It's all fuzzy. I can't recognize his face. He's making great. I think Mayor Adams did that, to incentivize blacks to come to jail.

Starting point is 00:46:01 Hey, y'all. Got Pro Tools. Holy shit. Now, that's a conspiracy I believe. Oh, no. Me too. Me too. Listen, thoughts and prayers to all. Indeed. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:46:12 Indeed. And I do think we'll never get the truth. I don't think so either. Unless, like I said, some of this fucking ring footage comes out somewhere at some point. The funny shit, if I'm too early, I might sue that bodyguard. You mean the driver? Yep. Why?

Starting point is 00:46:32 Because if you're a bodyguard or you're security, then why are we here? He's really bad at his job. Is there a distinction? They said the driver. They said driver. He said driver slash bodyguard. That's the other problem. You niggas should hire a driver,

Starting point is 00:46:54 not your man, from your hood. And security, not your man, from your hood. You need a driver and you need security. Professional for both. I don't care if the driver is licensed to carry. That means nothing to me. Just means you got two guns.

Starting point is 00:47:10 Yeah, you need two separate. Because if that happens, I don't think any of this happens. Why is Tory the one that got to get out, break this fight up, grab her? Why? Because you parking. Hold on, y'all. Hold on.

Starting point is 00:47:23 First of all, Andy, you hear these motherfuckers yelling and fighting in the background, it ain't a smooth escalade drive. Nigga, when you gonna jump in here? You here telling me I ain't got no slaps, I'm number 97 on the charts. You know where my ego is. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:47:40 Say it again, say it again, say it again. But when is the hired help ever going to fucking intervene in something like that? A professional? A professional? No. Always. A professional? A professional, that's what he's going to do.

Starting point is 00:47:53 He's there to deescalate these situations. Security? No. Security we're talking about. Okay, we got to be clear on the distinction. Was he security or driver? Because all it said was driver. He was both.

Starting point is 00:48:02 Okay, well if he is not licensed and bonded and a super professional and he sees a gun come out, I'm not getting involved, I don't want to get shot. That might have been his fucking sentiment as to why he did not get involved and why he didn't say anything. How many times are you having an argument with somebody and your driver is just looking face forward? And I'm not speaking about you, I'm just talking about in general as being high profile people. When your driver is looking ahead,

Starting point is 00:48:27 they are not looking in the rear view mirror, they're not paying attention, they're like my... Driver. He says, in the affidavit, I was the driver and bodyguard of Mr. Daystar Peterson. So he's occupying both roles. So you dropped the fucking ball, buddy. Oh, you're terrible.

Starting point is 00:48:42 Terrible, yeah. And I read this shit that, uh. Didn't get them to the destination answerable, guys. Right. Zero stars. Right. Would not recommend. And I read this shit that Megan Cunniff sent out.

Starting point is 00:48:59 And this is old. This is from them not calling the driver's witness. We came to the conclusion that we're not going to call him because obviously his testimony is going to be putting the gun in the hands of Kelsey. And that's what he told all of us when we just did an interview upstairs. At this point, my position was that the jury believes our theory. I think Sean Kelly already put the gun in Kelsey's hand and if they're going to believe that he took the gun from him and you started to shoot at yourself to me is kind of an absurd argument. I agree with that. Adding another person to say who has

Starting point is 00:49:28 adding another person to say who has some connections to you as a security or friend or whatever they may link up isn't gonna do anything. So why didn't the defense call him as a witness? Because they again I think from what I read it's just that they didn't believe that his testimony or whatever in the affidavit helped nor hurt it's kind of still we don't have any of the people is with his defense attorney I was about to say that was beef is not my fucking lawyer and I hope that the lawyers that are handling his appeals are not is not the same defense team because I would be screaming at y'all,

Starting point is 00:50:06 get that nigga on the fucking stand. I'd have a beef with everybody if I was Tory. Well, obviously, but I'd be really pissed off that this is coming out now and my defense attorneys did not think to put him on the stand. Even if he gets annihilated by prosecution, you know, cross-examination, I don't give a shit. As long as it creates reasonable doubt, that's it.

Starting point is 00:50:25 What I think happened, because I said this before, he definitely should have a beef with his attorneys because if you knew these were the charges and you knew what the evidence was, you should have took the plea. Agreed, everybody thinks that. Now, two, I also think that his defense thought that that neighbor was gonna say something different and they flipped him when they saw him coming off that elevator. That's what I really think. That was the turning point. I agree.

Starting point is 00:50:51 So we don't need to call a driver because we know what the neighbor is about to say and that's going to create the doubt we need to beat this case. That is true. And when the plea deal was given to them, their job is to say, this is what they're offering. And this is what they're offering. And this is what you're looking at. And it's Tory's decision as to whether or not he wants or not.

Starting point is 00:51:09 It's Tory ultimately who makes that decision. If your lawyers are telling you, yo, we don't stand a chance to win this, you take this plea, you take the plea. Or if the lawyer is saying, we don't need to call this person, you ain't about to override it. You're paying these people,

Starting point is 00:51:22 you paid a lot of money in lawyer fees. I really think that driver, I mean that neighbor being flipped was the turning point. And then by then it was too late for them. And they're like, oh shit. He went up there and said, what? You fucked us. Tory, myself,

Starting point is 00:51:37 plenty of other black men out there have had horrible things happen to them from fucking to mid. So y'all be careful. Y'all be careful. That's all I got. That's it. I'm with you.

Starting point is 00:51:52 Just being greedy with the mid. Blacks. This nigga is fucking crazy. And the mid will flip on you. The mid will flip on you like she bad. Oh, man. You be looking at her in the face. She be talking some big baddie bullshit shit.

Starting point is 00:52:11 You just staring at her fucking mustache. Yeah. You got a goatee, bitch. You got a beard. Yeah. And it's like, I don't need you for nothing. Oh, God. Pris, all involved with that. Indeed, indeed.

Starting point is 00:52:24 What else, what else, what else? Puff is not having a good week. What happened to Puff now? Two pox family. Yeah Puff is, so the two pox family has retained one of them chaperos, a good one. A good chaperon. Because it looks like they're looking to open up the investigation.

Starting point is 00:52:46 His name is mentioned in the Keefe D2 pox shit. They're saying that he put a million dollars on pox head. So lawsuits coming. Well, they're trying to do a little bit more than that. They're trying to find the direct connection and to validate what Keefe D said and tie him into it. And then alleged excerpts from Kim Porter's book that she was writing have somehow hit the internet.

Starting point is 00:53:14 Ooh. Oh y'all didn't see that. No. I didn't see that. I didn't see that. What? That's why I stay glued to my phone, Dernard, I got you. I got you, Leslie.

Starting point is 00:53:24 And it doesn't look the greatest. These were portions that were clipped out of the yeah This is alleged cuz who knows if it was in there, okay Sean yelled no So who the fuck are they from I was Bewildered and told him honestly, I don't know probably just a fan. He threw the attached card at me. I picked it up to read it. Sean, he slapped me so hard I hit the ground. Sean yelled, who the fuck were you with the other night?

Starting point is 00:53:54 I looked down at the card that was lying on the ground next to me and it read, the other night was amazing, we must do it again. I tried to explain, Sean, he threw the flowers at me. That's not how this works. You have my child You don't touch anyone unless I allow it. I pleaded with him Sean, please. He yelled at me what I tried my best to calm him Down. He probably didn't know it didn't come up You're publicly dating someone else so he screamed at me and it somehow seemed even more intense

Starting point is 00:54:23 So you didn't tell him back off Sean? I didn't and then out of nowhere. He hit me with a chair I don't remember anything after that until I woke up in a hospital room My arm was in a cast hanging from a sling my face hurt my eyebrow was an immense pain As was my lip as I came to as I came to the first face I saw was the man that put me here. Shit. It continues. I understand you're angry.

Starting point is 00:54:50 I glared at him as I cut him off. I'm serious, Sean. He spoke blandly with no energy. And tell them what? That you had a car accident? They'll pity you. That you hit your head? I don't know what tone he's speaking in here.

Starting point is 00:55:05 He was going to make me look crazy. They were going to believe him. He was a kingpin. You are a fucking bastard. Sean spent the next six months helping me heal and working his way back into my life and into my bed. I was so damn stupid. And of course, I wasn't cast for either movie.

Starting point is 00:55:23 From what I understand, the producer died of pneumonia. Shit. Rest in peace, comporter. Let's start there. Rest in peace, comporter. And Pac and Big. And Pac and Big, yeah, for sure. Okay.

Starting point is 00:55:36 Yeah. I got no words. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it's true or not. I mean, but the excerpt I'm saying. Yeah, same. I'm not saying I don't believe Kim. If Kim said it, I believe it, but I don't know if it's true or not. I mean, but the excerpt I'm saying, I'm not saying I don't believe Kim.

Starting point is 00:55:45 If Kim said it, I believe it, but I don't know if that's an authentic, you know, thing that none of us do. But I will say, after seeing the Cassie video,'ve known enough about Puff to be able to cancel him, to dismiss him, and we don't. We don't cancel him for jerking, you know... Artists off. Rappers. Oh, sorry. Yeah, all meanings of that term, right?

Starting point is 00:56:21 Jerking rappers. Well, actually, the second meaning is actually what we have canceled him for. That's the interesting thing, right? Is that the domestic violence isn't what gets Puff canceled. It's not stealing rappers money, allegedly. It's not any of that stuff. It's suddenly when all these allegations come out and the allegations are tied to other men.

Starting point is 00:56:38 Now all of a sudden, and all the no-diddy stuff starts happening. You think he should have been canceled for stealing publishing? I think in our culture, if we're saying, in our culture, yeah, I think I think as artists we could say we don't mess with him because he steals, he jerks us, right? I mean, and I say that about all, I'm not just Diddy, I mean there's a million white motherfuckers that have been doing it forever. We could say

Starting point is 00:57:01 we don't mess with people that do X, Y, and Z, whether it's domestic violence, whether it's, whatever the thing is, right? But we don't care, you know what I mean? If somebody snitches, if somebody's a snitch, we stop messing with them. Even if they got slaps, we still say, yeah, but you're a snitch, that violates our culture. I'm just saying, not I, but I understand what you're saying.

Starting point is 00:57:21 But a lot of people do, right, and that's beginning to change, right? But all I'm saying is that maybe I wish we had a different code of conduct that also made this outside of the bounds of what's allowable to. That's all. Not just, oh wait, he's sleeping with dudes, allegedly? Oh then yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:57:38 Cause that seems to be the thing that you can't come back from in hip hop. Everything else is kind of in bounds, damn near with Puff. I think with Puff, it wasn't even that. It was a Cassie video. Cassie's initial accusation is what started everybody. When she filed that suit it was, oh shit, because everybody believed her right away.

Starting point is 00:57:54 Not everybody. No, everybody believed her. Not everybody, and there was a bunch of people going online to say it's a money grab, and you know, the typical thing that they fucking say. She was believed, but people felt that she would complicit something. Right. They believed it happened.

Starting point is 00:58:10 Yeah. Well especially when the settlement happened so quickly I think that's when the money grab stuff became a little bit more. Rather than people looking at the fact that he settled so quickly because he did not want any more evidence to come out against him. He didn't settle quick enough. Right. He should have been. Again lawyers bad advice He didn't settle quick enough. Right.

Starting point is 00:58:25 Again, lawyers bad advice. Bad time to procrastinate. Right. Yeah. You didn't have a strong hand to be negotiated. You should have just wrote that check from the beginning. You know, it's funny you talk about what we will and won't cancel someone for.

Starting point is 00:58:41 Interesting debate that I've seen being had is Robert Downey Jr.'s criminal record versus Jonathan Major's criminal record. I was talking with my girl the other day and she brought up all the time, this guy's criminal record. I was like yeah but one it has DV on his shit. What were the accusations against Robert Downey Jr. again? It was drugs. Drugs. Drugs. Drug binges.

Starting point is 00:59:07 He broke in somebody's house. Long jacket. Long. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't care about that. A lot of, but it was mostly drugs. It wasn't violent shit though. No, I'm not talking about that.

Starting point is 00:59:15 No, I'm not talking about that. No, I'm not talking about that. That is a difference. That's a difference. A big difference. And, I mean, let me remind people that Robert Downey Jr. wasn't all he was a time where he had a hard time. Absolutely So in case you want to do the whole race car thing that you do John the majors I do feel bad for him because it's what third degree assault which means that you didn't intend to do this

Starting point is 00:59:36 Someone just got hurt in the process But uh, what do you guys think? What do you guys think Robert Downey Jr. Was announced? He's playing dr. Doom and the Avengers. That's Doom's day. Yes. 2026. Yo, as much as I hate it, I do think it's fly to tease something that's two years away. Oh, they do way more than that. They at them festival. I mean, at them conventions will put the whole slate up for you from like in 2022. They showing you shit that's coming out 2027. I think more people should do that. They probably the only people able to do that.

Starting point is 01:00:07 Yeah, cause they got the whole, they're telling you we're tying everything into each other. Where do y'all fall on this stuff? I love it. Bringing him back, there was rumors he was coming back to the MCU anyway. People thought they were gonna try to bring back Iron Man to do something different.

Starting point is 01:00:23 For those who don't understand how he's able to play Iron Man and Doctor Doom, it's a multiversal thing. I don't know how many people saw Deadpool and Wolverine. I went and saw it. I did too. I'm not really trying to spoil it, but Chris Evans appears. I saw nerd shit.

Starting point is 01:00:43 Chris Evans appears in the movie. Now Chris Evans was formerly Captain America in all of the movies. He appears as Johnny Storm. But he appears as Johnny Storm. Yes. From Fantastic Four. Because it's in a different universe where this occurs. Everything we know is, y'all comic book fans know this part too, Earth 616.

Starting point is 01:01:00 But these things are taking place somewhere else. Got it. So yeah, this person in another universe could look differently So so kind of like dark matter the whole like going to the door Okay, that's the only reason why I can even understand what you're saying right now is because dark matter This is the coolest podcast in America and you're all turning the fucking nerds when you're talking about comic book Look all of y'all dark matter unit. What the fuck is y'all talking about? There's only Mel, Ice and Parks to the nerds. Yeah, I'm a nerd

Starting point is 01:01:32 I stand up in that. Mark you didn't watch dark matter? No, I don't watch that shit. That was an excellent show minus the ending but I digress but the show was fantastic I didn't watch dog matter, but I did watch Deadpool Wolverine. You read all them comic books and stuff No, I don't read comic books. Okay, you just watch the cut That's mine and his beef. He's an MCU guy. I'm a Marvel comic guy and then Worlds got you like I'm a comic book guy. So whatever was happening in the 80s and 90s I could tell you about the comic book. I got you you they erased that shit the erasure of comic books is now MCU and they look down on comic book niggas. No, we don't

Starting point is 01:02:09 That's why I beef really stems from That's really what happens when we get to talking about the MCU which started in 2009 With Iron Man 1 that's where that really began we get to talking about the MCU They jump in and say, and I think what happened in the comments. That's not how it really happened in 1986 on page 34. Stanley ain't writing like that. Right. So we'll sit there and say, Hey, that's cool, but this ain't the comments. But we don't care about Stanley and his legacy.

Starting point is 01:02:36 Stanley appeared in all the movies. We do. He was, he was involved. He was involved up until his death. No, he would be mistreated, but. And then after he died, she started to be a bald. She started going a little left. She started going a little left. I'm tired of all this multi-univers shit, I'll be honest with you.

Starting point is 01:02:51 I enjoyed the movie though. It was funny, it was entertaining. It was a Deadpool movie. It was a good bad movie. Yeah, I enjoyed it. To me, this was a Guardians of the Galaxy slash Ant-Man movie, meaning it's the glue behind the main movies Yeah, like this tied in all that multi-vote suit Merck

Starting point is 01:03:08 Excuse me multiversal shit that they've been doing so now when you start to see other shit happening If you watch this movie, you'll understand a little bit better. It's their loophole This movie gave them a little bit out do whatever the fuck they want to give him an out Which I'm not mad at because the franchise is so financially successful and the biggest stars have all been killed off in Endgame so let's figure out how to remix this shit. It's good to see you Jackman. It's good to see Wolverine Yeah, that was a haven't they been battling like Even I read the deal was a line in the movie like you pick a fine time to join

Starting point is 01:03:40 We're on a bit of a lot. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they said they did fourth wall shit the whole movie. That's what Deadpool does though. He does it a lot anyway. All movies. But this was even more. Yeah, this was way out there. He took shots at Fox. They were really talking. Disney bought it from Fox.

Starting point is 01:03:53 Yeah, it was good. It was entertaining. Jonathan Majors was supposed to be Kang in what? Everything. Yeah. And now there's no Kang anymore. He was Railroader Joe, you know that. So he was introduced.

Starting point is 01:04:06 Shouldn't have fucked a white girl. Y'all niggas like fucking white girls. Go ahead. So what happened? Not me, not me. I don't know what you're talking about, nigga. I'm cool. He was railroaded, nigga.

Starting point is 01:04:15 I'm good. Well, I mean, listen, attention talks, bro. They have to play the game. If they kept him, are they willing to deal with the negative attention that came with it? Yes. That's what any company does, bro.

Starting point is 01:04:26 They have to look at this. All right, look, they go up there to their board and say, yo, look, what's the odds, or what's the risk of keeping him? What will we potentially have to deal with? How can this affect the bottom line? If they start making too much noise, boycotting and all that type of shit,

Starting point is 01:04:40 then they'll say, yo, we can't do it. Real quick, I don't want to bore this out, but this is a bigger picture to me that they could build you up and just take you down. They could do that shit right in front of our eyes. Well, that's America. That's America. No, but I'm a nigga, but I'm not gonna,

Starting point is 01:04:53 we have to put our foot down for something. I think Jonathan Majors is that. Excuse me? Jonathan Majors is that? Well, yes, a little bit. Not that. You know how we put our foot down? But, the nigga was, he was on his know how we put our foot down? But. Right, I'ma let you finish.

Starting point is 01:05:05 The nigga was, he was on his way. He was there. He was killed. His face was everywhere. He was killed, yeah, absolutely. You know what I'm saying? And then they had the fucking video in 4K of how he tried to avoid this woman. And now look what happened to him.

Starting point is 01:05:17 At some point, they just doing shit right in front of our faces to show that we control you niggas and we could do whatever we want. And I look at the John, the major situation as such. I may be wrong, but that's how I look at it. Because once that came out, it's been like, okay, he's vindicated, let's move on,

Starting point is 01:05:32 let's bring him back. We've seen a lot of people do things and they'll sit you down for a little bit and they'll bring you back. And if they don't bring him back, I think that they're just doing whatever they want. Because we niggas. I mean, in fairness, you think that they're still,

Starting point is 01:05:45 it's been six months since the trial. There might be room eventually for him to come back. I think he gonna be back. I just think this is his sit down period. Okay. I think this is his sit down period. Well the way he crying on, crying when niggas is talking to him

Starting point is 01:05:57 and the way he's looking and dancing around and look like he just fucked up. Oh yeah, he having a breakdown right now. I mean he might be. He having a fucked up. Bro, he was on a verge of being an A-lister damn near. He was on a, now. He having a fucked up. That's why you need to get out of the way. He'd be fucked up too. Any of us would be fucked up.

Starting point is 01:06:10 I'd be fucked up too, but I would do it off the cameras. That's all I'm saying. Just don't do that no more. That dance and shit, all that shit. Don't do that no more. Just sit down, get out of the way. Niggas was taking his hand talking and he crying mid fucking red carpet. I'm like, yo nigga, get off the red carpet. Go cry.

Starting point is 01:06:25 Go home. Go cry in the corner. Yeah, go home and cry. Go cry right at home. You have to cry and go outside. In every one of these topics so far, all I'm hearing is pussy getting you jammed up. Yeah, and pussy will get you jammed up.

Starting point is 01:06:37 And pussy will get you jammed up. So how do you avoid it? Puff aside, because he's, that's good. But pussy's getting you jammed up. Well people let the pussy get them jammed up. It's not pussy, because that's, that's good. But, pussies getting you jammed up. Well, people let the pussy get them jammed up. It's not pussy, because that's still, I'll tell you why it's not pussy.

Starting point is 01:06:50 I mean, it's pussy adjacent, is what I mean. Oh, this guy, yo, what? It's the OVF, I like getting my, Well, I can ask you a question before you continue. Do you believe all women? I believe all women that are telling the truth. Oh, man. Good answer, good fucking answer. Oh, man. Good answer.

Starting point is 01:07:05 Good fucking answer. Oh, yeah! Oh! What? No! Hey, man! I got him! I got him!

Starting point is 01:07:13 I got him! You got him good! You got him good! I got him! No, there's a thing. There's a thing. And don't lose your train of thought from a pussy adjacent shit. I just had to ask him.

Starting point is 01:07:21 I just had to ask him. No, listen. There's the truth. Look. It's the horny that's doing it. The boss is in the pussy. Yeah, tell me about it. Men and women are both capable of lying. Believe women didn't mean believe all women at all times in every place.

Starting point is 01:07:34 That's what it has become. It's become like a caricature of what it's supposed to be. Yeah, because that's what it's become. That's the extreme argument, right? Just like affirmative action. People say the extreme argument is that every black person should get any job. That was never the thing. It was all qualified black people should have access to the job, right?

Starting point is 01:07:49 Believe women means that we don't begin from a presumption that women are lying. And the problem is when women would, for example, with sexual assault, when they would say that they were sexually assaulted, people would be like, prove you were sexually assaulted because we don't believe you. What were you wearing?

Starting point is 01:08:00 We don't believe you. Why were you there at three in the morning? We don't believe you. So believe women meant let's operate in a cultural kind of mindset that says that all women are just as capable and just as human as men, and therefore we should listen to them

Starting point is 01:08:13 and take their stories as credible and not as lying until proven otherwise. That's what believe women mean. And so I believe women to that extent. That doesn't mean that every story is credible. Okay. But that's a black thing though. Mom, I agree. It's guilty to prove an innocent.

Starting point is 01:08:28 That's a black thing, not just a woman thing. It's not, but even in black communities, black men, we often do that to black women too. We're like, fuck with you, Desiree Washington, why would she have Mike Tyson, Hotel or two in the morning, blah, blah, blah, blah. So even in our community, we double down on it instead of saying, look, white people don't believe

Starting point is 01:08:42 shit we say, so maybe we should listen to women more. We do the opposite, that's all I'm saying. But you know why people say those things though, right? Not saying I do, I fuck with y'all, but you know why they say it. Why? You talking about the history of black men being? Because there are people that,

Starting point is 01:08:57 there are people that change the story after the fact. Fact. For sure. Fact. So this is why people will sit there and say, because people try to give this person a benefit of the doubt too. So it's like, you know what? I've seen instances where how this could be Okay, I did this and now she comes back because she's upset or something and say something different, right? And that's the same thing white people do when they find The most extreme example of black on black violence or a drug deal and a theft What if I know one welfare mother then went to three states and collected checks.

Starting point is 01:09:26 And then that becomes a stereotype for all black people or all black women. I'm just saying, we often replicate white supremacy in our own communities against each other and against women. That's all I'm saying. But again, I don't believe all women are telling the truth. But to the pussy adjacent point, what I'm saying is when we say pussy gets you in trouble,

Starting point is 01:09:45 it suggests that there's something inherently dangerous about women and engaging women that puts you in this situation and it lets us off the hook. I'm saying that it's our response to it, it's how we treat it. It's the horny, it's not the pussy. It's the horny. Yes, thank you. You said it a lot better than me. It's the horny, not the pussy. You can get lots of pussy and not get in trouble. Yeah, right. You know, I mean

Starting point is 01:10:09 How was it the horny in the Jonathan Majors case? I'm not speaking to the Jonathan majors case. That's what we were on you say no the common thread I'm saying it's not the common thread because I don't think that's the thread in with Tory Lane's No, I don't know enough about the Jonathan majors cases to say whether that was or not. I'm just saying that in general I don't think that's the comment. I think that those are very different situations and a lot of times how we respond to things is how we, what we need and nothing is more dangerous than somebody who didn't get pussy. I'm just being honest. Before they got on, whether it's famous or a website or followers or whatever, however you got him

Starting point is 01:10:45 mixed. Well, I mean, actually, the horny can be applied to the Jonathan Major situation because the whole idea, the whole reason, quote unquote, behind the fight is because, well, it was alleged that he was looking at texts and texting back and forth with another woman and that is what she saw. And that is where the fight started. So how's that him being horny? Obviously he's horny for the woman that he's talking to

Starting point is 01:11:08 in front of his girlfriend that he has not broken up with. That's the horny. You can talk to women while you're in a relationship but obviously what she saw, nobody knows what she saw. She know what she saw, that's what set off. Yo, women get a lot of fucking race about them. Pardon me for a second. How do we know that her set off meter is at the right?

Starting point is 01:11:33 That's what I'm saying. This guy was texting a girl at the height of Creed as the littest dude in the world. Women be wanting the littest dude and then when lit shit happens, now it's the thing. He's texting a girl. Cool, you texting a girl, but you're not, you're not bold to text a girl right there in front of your girl?

Starting point is 01:11:56 Exactly, there's consequences. Wow, whoa. Oh my God, when I say that there's, stop it. When I say that there's consequences, it doesn't mean that what ends up happening is deserved. That's not what I'm saying. There is consequences for the fact that you are texting another woman in front of your woman

Starting point is 01:12:13 and you might not know how she's going to react. And if that's the way she reacted, that's the consequence. You got it, okay. I'm with her. I think that there should not be consequences if you're just texting a girl. I think before we speak about consequences, we should know the contents of the text.

Starting point is 01:12:31 For sure, for sure. We shouldn't just, he was texting a girl in front of his girl. Who fucking cares? So if that's enough, I know, but that's my next point. If that's enough for you to jeopardize all that you see going on Especially if you calling yourself in a real relationship with somebody Let's throw this whole kit kit and caboodle down the toilet because you were texting a girl, please. I mean

Starting point is 01:12:57 Nobody thinks that they're throwing it down the fucking drain They're thinking in the moment this can go back to the whole Tory and Meg situation as to how like, you know, the situation just can become so heated in like the blink of an eye. That is what took place in this car. He's texting a woman in front of his girlfriend. This is also an indication of maybe some dishonesty and that she's got one foot outside the door, but he's not articulating that.

Starting point is 01:13:22 Do you know how upsetting that would be to a person? Not necessarily even a woman. So that can lead to a situation becoming heated. She's not thinking, my God, we're gonna have the biggest fight in the world. It's gonna result in me being fucking harmed and he's gonna go to court and your career is gonna be fucked as a moment.

Starting point is 01:13:40 She's not thinking that. He's not thinking that. He's texting another woman in front of his girlfriend. She gets pissed. Shit goes down. There'll be a whole lot of lines just for bitches as nuts. There's too many words. Bitches as nuts. That's a nuts decision to make to me. I think that that is wildly-

Starting point is 01:13:55 That is a nuts decision to make. Let me just ask you. Why is that just a nuts decision? Why you couldn't wait to get home to text her? Like why you couldn't wait to get away from her to text? Just if it was just a text that sent her off, we don't know what happened. We don't know if she caught him texting this girl before.

Starting point is 01:14:12 If the text is foul, I'm with y'all. We don't know that, though. That's why I'm not with y'all. Or if the recipient is foul. Well, I think the re- Oh, yeah. You see what I'm saying? She might not have read shit, just might have seen Amanda. Who was? Jen, whoever. I'm just talking to him. That see what I'm saying? She might not have read shit, just might have seen Amanda. Who was?

Starting point is 01:14:25 Jen, whoever. I'm just talking about what he did. That's what I'm saying. Or maybe, and also might have seen the name and drew some conclusions as to what's really actually happened. If you already been caught doing this thing. Thank you. So, but here's the thing though.

Starting point is 01:14:38 One applies to one and one doesn't apply to the other. So you're saying that it's a consequence, like she's not thinking in future tense that this would happen, but sometimes women and people expect men to think in future tense, like to avoid the issue. Sometimes a lot of people say that, but you should have thought about that before you did this, or you should have, so that's hypocritical. If she didn't, like, he probably,

Starting point is 01:15:01 he also didn't think that it would go like that. He also didn't think by being in this car, I got the biggest movie out, being in this car, texting whomever that my girl would act like that. No, he thought like that. He was running for his life from short. No, after she started to work. He wasn't, he didn't, hey, crazy psycho white bitch,

Starting point is 01:15:17 get away from me, you about to ruin my whole future. After, after, not initially. I don't think he initially thought that, Joe. I don't think he initially thought that. I know, but I don't think the text he was sending was that foul. Yeah. But what if it was?

Starting point is 01:15:28 And that's the question, that's what I don't think. I don't think the text he was sending was that foul. We don't know what it was. It's fucked up, man, but. You taking the stance for men now? I'm gonna stand for men when they getting jammed up. Niggas is getting jammed up out here. And again. Marked on seat like that.

Starting point is 01:15:44 That's the lesson. No, no, I understand that Mark out here. And again- Mark don't see it like that. That's the lesson. No, no, I understand that Mark and Mel, you know, Mark and Mindy, Mark and Mindy. Uh. Yeah, what the fuck was that about? Yo, men out there, and you have to learn this,

Starting point is 01:15:57 you have to leave. The end. True. You have to leave. True, that's it. You can't be around the girl that's angry, or the girl's emotional, the girl's going through your phone,

Starting point is 01:16:08 the girl that's seeing something, the girl that's throwing shit at you, the girl that's creating mess, the girl that is gonna weaponize your success against you. Like all of that shit is found. The fucked up shit about it is that it's gonna sound crazy, but toxic women are, some, it's good.

Starting point is 01:16:22 I know, they get to hide behind all of that good woman shit. Toxic pussy is the best. They get to hide. So a lot of niggas, it's a hide when you fuck with toxic pussy. You know, there's a thrill in the moment. I'm with you, I love a toxic bitch. Hey, I'm the one who's gonna hold it down.

Starting point is 01:16:35 Can I just say one word here? Yes, ma'am. Consequences. Consequences to fucking with toxic pussy. Consequences, you take that shit on. It's on you, accountability. Whoa! You know what's funny?

Starting point is 01:16:49 I'm gonna start saying that to y'all about toxic dick. Bro, we talk, look, we talk. I'm gonna start saying that to y'all about picking the toxic dick and then consequences coming from picking the toxic. There are tons of consequences for it. We've had this conversation with a friend about a girl that he was courting or whatever,

Starting point is 01:17:07 and was like, yo, she crazy, you sure you wanna do that? Well, might come with that. He still did it, and the crazy came out. Oh yeah, Imani don't care. Well, I wasn't saying it. I wasn't doing it. Imani don't care. I wasn't doing it.

Starting point is 01:17:19 Yo, Imani was away for somewhere, and somebody that he was fucking with just happened to be back at the house and was talking to me. She was talking and she was talking and she was talking and as she kept talking I said, oh shit. She's nuts. This bitch is psych-o-er than maybe anyone knows. I need to alert my friend.

Starting point is 01:17:39 So Imani comes back, I pull up inside, hey, hey big dog. That girl, she was talking to me about you when you left. Here's some of what she was saying. I want you to know she's a little crazy. Are you going to continue the deal? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Why do y'all make that choice? It's the thrill. I'm on it. We need to answer for it. But everybody in this room said y'all make that choice? It's the thrill. Imani, we need to answer for it. But everybody in this room said y'all did it, right? I run from the what? Those girls have almost ruined my life

Starting point is 01:18:10 double digit amount of times. But you ran from it. That's it. I didn't learn the first time. I didn't learn the second time. What draws you to it? I didn't learn the third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth time.

Starting point is 01:18:18 It took 14 times to say, oh, I can't. That's me. I think that if you continue to behavior, oh, I can't. That's me. I think that if you continue to behavior, your lessons come. You know what, I think it's, real quick, I think it's deeper than that. And I don't wanna get too deep, but I feel like-

Starting point is 01:18:34 Psycho-bitch, you know how they lick your nipples good. It's something that's missing in your life. That's where I was going. That's what I'm saying. Because when I thought about somebody coming to my crib and shit like that, it was the attention that she was giving me. The fact that you go this far for me

Starting point is 01:18:49 or to get my attention, that's what I liked about it. And her pussy was good. Yeah. My psycho bitch was cooking for her kids and Ubering a little plate. She put the plate in the Uber, send it over to me whenever I was hungry. It'd be something in us that draws us to that chaos.

Starting point is 01:19:04 Yeah, absolutely. I'm decades past that chaos, I'm happily married, and in that single, but when I was single, that was the thing I was drawn to. That was my man. How did you handle it? Unless you put up a facade, how did you handle it? Come on. Come on, come on, young man.

Starting point is 01:19:18 I think you should leave the premises. If you don't leave. No, he hit it with a man. Ma'am. Yes. Ma'am. You don't need to do this, ma'am. You don don't leave. He hit it with a man. You don't need to do this, ma'am. Why are we doing this? What are you getting out of this? Oh, man.

Starting point is 01:19:34 You know it's been so long. That's a small beer right there. Come on, let's have it up for Mark. That's a small beer right there. Don't let them see you. They can fool you. They felt guilty. In New York-related business, if you're listening

Starting point is 01:19:55 and you're from another place, you could either hit the little 15-second skip button or just cut the shit off completely. But this next topic is near and dear to my heart. I'm extremely hurt, saddened, and disappointed by this, but it is only New York business, and I do have to speak to tradition up here, so I will play it.

Starting point is 01:20:17 ["Tradition"] This one fuckin' hurts bad. This one hurts. New Yorkers, niggas that's cool. Niggas that left the club to get some pussy or left the club to hit a little diner. Neptune diner. Yeah, story is of the very own. This one hits home for me too. Yeah, yeah, come on. Neptune Diner in Astoria. Yeah, man. Right there under the train. Y'all know this spot. Y'all know where it's at. Hey, if you're cool and you're in New York, you know this

Starting point is 01:20:58 diner. You've been there before. Okay, what happened? You had a slice. It's no longer. It's over. It's no longer. I think 35 years they were there. Yes. They raised the rents to something outrageous. They're going to build some luxury high ride shit. Damn. This one really hurts. You know where it is, the one right before the bridge.

Starting point is 01:21:14 I know, I know Neptune Diner. I didn't know it was closed. Everybody knows it's closed. How many niggas get robbed at Neptune Diner? Yes, this is the day. Sure. I can't believe they're getting rid of Neptune Diner. That hurt.

Starting point is 01:21:26 Also in New York news, the Starbucks right there on fucking Astor. Astor Place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, crazy. Crazy. And they didn't raise the rent there. Oh really? They did not raise the rent there.

Starting point is 01:21:37 I thought it was the rent thing too. Starbucks is leaving? That Starbucks on Astor. Astor Place. Astor is no longer, it's boarded up. The news went out there and tried to investigate and the owner's like, no, we didn't raise rent. We just said, game contract and none happened.

Starting point is 01:21:55 So rest in peace Starbucks over there, but more importantly, Neptune Diner on fucking Astoria. Damn. All right, you wanna get the rest of the rest of the pieces out right now? Like real rest in pieces? DJ, yeah, the moms will do it. DJ Polo.

Starting point is 01:22:09 Rest in peace. Legend. Legend. Gone too soon. Rest in peace, DJ Polo. Oh, the Chino Excel News broke my heart. Yeah, man. That absolutely broke my heart.

Starting point is 01:22:22 As a young nigga, when Chino dropped, I was in Jersey. He was in Jersey too I think actually at that time He was lyrical miracle Yeah for us I feel like he's one of the first people I saw really blow up off of like Freestyles and lyrical just it's rappy rappy rappy rappy. It's true Anytime I saw him Like complete gentleman like just a sweetheart and just loved this rap shit.

Starting point is 01:22:48 He just absolutely loved this rap shit. He loved me too, this ain't about me. And he loved Jersey. He loved the West Coast. Chino XL, a lot of us, a lot of us, a lot of us were in pain with that news. 50 years old. 50 years old. 50 years old.

Starting point is 01:23:04 Rest in peace to Erika Ash? Yeah. Yeah. From Survivors Remorse, I think she was 36? No, she was 46. Forty-one is that. Forty-six. She died from a long bout with cancer.

Starting point is 01:23:14 She was an incredible actress. She was in Survivors Remorse. She was in The Real Husbands of Hollywood. She's done a ton of movies. She was in this movie called Skin in the Game. She really was beloved in Hollywood. Everybody loved her. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:23:28 I didn't know that she had a long bowel cancer. Yeah. 46 is so young. Is there anybody else that passed these deaths? Who? Alma Powell. Alma Powell, who's Alma Powell? Colin Powell.

Starting point is 01:23:41 Colin Powell's wife. Rest in peace Peace Alma Powell. Listen man, his life thing is fragile and short, live it up while you can. That Chino shit hurt, these are Polo shit hurt, they both hurt, they both hurt. And it just hurts anytime you lose someone. Impossible to segue from that to Swae Lee stupidity,

Starting point is 01:24:01 but here we are. Swae Lee is encouraging people to not vote for Kamala Harris. We have not heard from Swae Lee in some years. She went and heard from Slim Jimmy in some years. Facts. Nah, they dropped last year. Was that last year? Yeah, I got some last year.

Starting point is 01:24:19 Swim like four was last year. Oh, that was quick. That was short. Did I like it? It was alright. I don't know what you thought about it. It was alright. I like Ray Shremert. Oh, that was quick. That was short. Did I like it? It was all right. I don't know what you thought about it.

Starting point is 01:24:27 It was all right. I like Ray Shremert. Yeah. In music, not politics. Yes. Yeah. Why do, well, let me not ask stupid questions. Got it.

Starting point is 01:24:38 I know why all the rappers want to be. I got it. I got it. How do we feel about sway Lee? Saying don't vote for Kamala. It wasn't even because you put black people away. That wasn't even a funny part for me Because he kept going. Oh, did he? Yeah, he started off. He said don't vote for Kamala. Do your research on that whole camp? I pay over a million in tax dollars every year. This man sent it to a whole nother country Those little dollars that come off your checks, they gave it away. Think about that. The money we sent away, every American citizen could have got minimum

Starting point is 01:25:11 200 grand. That's where it got funny to me. Oh well see now that part I agree with. That is the part I agree with. Them niggas sent off. Not them niggas because I don't know who did it. But there's a whole lot of money going. Guess where that money would, even if they kept it, would never go. I'm clear on that. That's all. I'm clear on that. You know how this works. I just think that over here, like the homeless issue, the unemployment issue and the broke issue, like there is a reason to maybe cut a couple of

Starting point is 01:25:41 give niggas some per diem over here in America. Give niggas some America per diem, just for being here. So they need niggas broke. I'm good with the per diem. I'm good with the, the critics, look, with the criticizing the common. It's not just Swae Lee, it's Lil Pump did the same thing. I woke up yesterday on Twitter and he's saying, if you don't vote, if you vote for common then you're not black.

Starting point is 01:26:01 Is he black? No, that's what makes it so, I mean, I get, he was playing on the whole Joe Biden, showing up on the Breakfast Club thing, trying to kind of clown. But one, you're not black, so you shouldn't be in that conversation. Like, that's not the joke for you to make.

Starting point is 01:26:14 Let a black person make that joke. There's enough black people to make that joke if you want to make that joke. And you shouldn't joke if you're a little punk. How about that? You shouldn't make jokes if you're a little punk. You're a little punk, right. Yeah, you're a little enough.

Starting point is 01:26:25 I think I'm frustrated. People should vote for who they want to vote for. And I think you can make arguments for whatever. It's just they're putting out so much bad information and it's dangerous to have a big platform and put out bad information. There's a lot of arguments for not voting for Kamala Harris.

Starting point is 01:26:38 There's a lot of arguments for not voting for Donald Trump, a million of them. Make them. But when you have this platform, don't just say shit. And they just say shit. Everybody's kind of pushing the Kamala Harris locked up all these people. If you actually look at her record,

Starting point is 01:26:50 I'm not defending Kamala Harris. I've been criticized in Kamala Harris since she was attorney general, but it's not true. Right, she's just not locking up a bunch of people. She actually tried to advance legislation to limit weed carriers from getting locked up. You know, there's lots of them again. She did some shit I don't like.

Starting point is 01:27:08 I'm not defending Kamala Harris, but I'm saying they're putting out so much bad information to kind of encourage particularly black men not to vote for Kamala Harris. But that is a campaign strategy, right? Bad information or misinformation. Yeah. And if it were the Trump camp doing it, cool. If it's a little pump, you know what I'm saying? If it's Swae Lee, I'm like,

Starting point is 01:27:26 why do you want to be part of this? But, not the country, why? That could still be the Trump camp. Oh, I'm sure it is. And I'm saying, these guys sell out and they sell out so cheap. You know what I mean? Like some of them are selling out for a hat.

Starting point is 01:27:36 Some of them are selling out for a day in the news cycle. Some of them got cases. A tray bag. Yeah. It's, you know, at least when Wayne took that hostage photo next to Trump a couple years ago. We knew what time it was. Look, I like it and I still don't respect it but I understand it. I get it. And I can't say I wouldn't do something different if I was looking at a trillion years. Same. You know what I'm saying? That's how I feel about

Starting point is 01:27:57 Kodak as well. Same. I can understand that at least. But these cats are just doing it to do it. You know what I mean? And it's hard for me to separate that from the fact that it's Kamala, because some of these people didn't say shit when it was Biden. And now that it's Kamala, y'all got something to say. I don't like that either. I'm in a weird position where I don't,

Starting point is 01:28:15 I've never been a defender of the Democrats in general, but I have to defend Kamala from these racist attacks, from these sexist attacks, at the same time that I'm like, yo, we should be asking her some tough questions, but like, not these questions. And that's why I'm frustrated. Do you think that Trump will end up debating her?

Starting point is 01:28:34 No. If I had to bet my money right now, I'd say no. Really? Really? Yeah, I'd say no. Yeah, he has nothing to gain from it. Do you think that he's gonna be able to avoid that for the, what, there's four months left? Before the, he can avoid? the he can avoid anybody else could.

Starting point is 01:28:47 I think he could because. He has no, he can't gain from debating her. He basically it's like, it's like, I hate to use this example. I love her, but all right. Remember when she came out? Yes. That should have been the end of it. Remember when when she came out? Yes. That should have been the end of it. Remember the follow up record?

Starting point is 01:29:09 No. Exactly. There was a follow up record. She tried to back the backer. Yeah. And it did not work. It was not. It was.

Starting point is 01:29:17 It was. Really? Yes. This is my point. I don't remember that one. Go back and listen. You'll be you'll just make you listen. She did it. She did it. It was enough. was enough yeah that was fine that debate for Trump was she through he I mean

Starting point is 01:29:29 there's nothing he's not good at debating he's not good at talking he lies every time he gets facts there's nothing he could do to have a good performance again like that one Trump had I mean Biden handed him a victory yeah I wouldn't go back up there again if I was him because he's not trying to persuade people he's winning now if he would have fall back in the polls, if Kamala keeps climbing, now he might have to debate. Yeah, that's what I was thinking, because there is a lot of steam behind her right now.

Starting point is 01:29:55 Yeah, but she ain't gonna hit, she ain't, I hate to use this metaphor, but she ain't to use my Tyson metaphor. She hasn't been punching the mouth yet. True, true. But I mean, like, what did this just start? Biden just stepped down, what, two weeks ago? Maybe less?

Starting point is 01:30:06 So when the dirt comes out, when the smear campaigns come out, when the lies come out. Oh, it started. Let's see where she is. On Twitter. Oh, for sure. Yeah. But that's still love taps. When the heavy stuff comes in right now, they're calling a childless cat lady.

Starting point is 01:30:18 A childless cat lady, right? Which... All right, that's funny. I like cats. I'm going to hold you. I like cats. That's funny. I know if you were though. That's funny. But when they try to frame her as somebody who's so at a step with American values, because she doesn't understand.

Starting point is 01:30:34 They're saying you don't have kids, so you can't understand American families. You can't understand the values of family or the emotions of family because you never had a child, right? Which is ridiculous for so many reasons. One, she's a stepparent. But two, like- What the fuck would that mean? I mean, you can understand families.

Starting point is 01:30:51 First of all, you can understand families without having kids. She was in a family. She was a kid. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. A-mark, A-mark. A-mark enough. Enough of this Believer Woman crap.

Starting point is 01:30:59 Steppkids and your kids ain't the same kids. To say you don't understand families? I'm saying families look a lot different. You can understand with the same kids. That's what I'm understand families? I'm saying families look a lot of different ways. You can understand. That's what I'm talking about. Got that. I'm not saying that being a stepparent

Starting point is 01:31:09 is the same as being a parent. I'm saying that you can understand. First of all. Family values. Family values. First of all, she was in a family. She was a child. She had a parent.

Starting point is 01:31:18 Family values ain't just when you once you have a kid. You know what I mean? Donald Trump ain't never been nowhere near the military, but they say he can understand the troops. He didn't serve in the military, he was never a soldier. No, he was actually a draft dodger. He was a draft dodger, but they still let him be commander in chief.

Starting point is 01:31:30 I'm saying we make up these new rules suddenly. You can't oversee American families because you didn't give birth to a child, but you can oversee the military, which was supposed to be their biggest priority. You ain't never been in the military, you dodge the draft. Same thing with Obama, same thing with Biden, not dodging, but not being in it.

Starting point is 01:31:46 Draft dodger is not the biggest light to me. I would do it too. Oh, I would dodge that motherfucker. But again, but I don't pretend to believe in it. Got it. You can't say I love America, patriotism overall, you're courageous. Trump does everything he can to disrespect the soldiers.

Starting point is 01:32:00 When he was facing John McCain, when John McCain was criticizing him, and he was like, you can't criticize John McCain. He's a war criminal. I mean, he's a war hero. Oh, he was facing John McCain, when John McCain was criticizing him, and he was like, you can't criticize John McCain. He's a war criminal. I mean, he's a war hero. He was like, why am I? He got caught. He's like, he's not a hero.

Starting point is 01:32:10 He got caught. He played the shit out of John McCain. Is John McCain alive? No, he's dead now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what politics get. They don't care if you about to die. That just changed your life.

Starting point is 01:32:18 Exactly. Exactly. And Trump doesn't play by the rules, and his camp is just going to come after Kamala harder and harder and harder. And there are too many people, I think, that are worried about. I think her gender and her race are going to play a very different role. Unfortunately.

Starting point is 01:32:36 Unfortunately, they're going to play a very important role in whether she gets elected or not. I'm not sure she can win this race. I don't think she can win this race as of right now. And I think that's the main reason why. Do you think with the right VP, it can help? Nah, that shit don't really give you. It don't matter? People think it matters.

Starting point is 01:32:51 The wrong VP can hurt you. Like Sarah Palin hurt John McCain. Do you think Vance will end up hurting Trump? Yeah. That's what I've been seeing. Cause it don't look like Vance is gonna make it all the way through it don't and Trump will Drop every other day some shit come out where Vance is just fucking shit Yeah, he says the wrong. Remember he was a person who didn't like Trump

Starting point is 01:33:15 Very vocal about it never Trump so again your VP can hurt you But it's hard to get a VP because you don't want VP to outshines you too much Because that also can hurt your campaign because then people like why we didn't get a VP because you don't want a VP that outshines you too much. Because that also can hurt your campaign. Because then people are like, why we didn't get this guy? And so I don't know, the best thing you can do is get a VP who carries a state for you. So JD Vance is trash, but he may help pull Ohio because he's a Senator from Ohio. That's why you picked JD. So that was the logic of it.

Starting point is 01:33:42 So now she's looking at Josh Shapiro from Pennsylvania. She's looking at Mark Kelly from Arizona. You know, her campaign manager is the governor of Michigan which they desperately need. So if I were her, I'd be- I thought they said Shapiro wouldn't take it. I think he would take it. People always say they won't.

Starting point is 01:34:01 And then- Tell them to send it to him. Exactly. I don't think it's a good choice. I think ultimately it would make me less likely to vote for Exactly. I don't think it's a good choice. I think ultimately it would make me less likely to vote for him. Who do you think would be a better choice? Mark Kelly, Arizona.

Starting point is 01:34:10 Okay. He's... Because when you're a black person running, people will already assume you don't know what you're doing. Yeah. So you have to make America feel comfortable. America feels comfortable when they see a white man standing next to you. Obama picked Joe Biden for that reason.

Starting point is 01:34:23 Joe Biden wasn't a winner. He lost in 88. He lost in 2000, he lost in 2008, but he looked serious and he knew his business and he was a veteran. Mark Kelly is a white man. His wife was in a tragedy in Arizona. He's a former military, he's an astronaut. I mean, they don't get no whiter in American

Starting point is 01:34:44 than the fucking astronaut. You know what I mean? So if you wanna feel comfortable, that if Kamala knows what she's doing, she got a white man behind her, which is unfair, but that's how we think. You talking about the VP or her husband? The VP, the VP.

Starting point is 01:34:56 Yeah, her husband is someone else, but that's a whole other story. But if- Do you think that she should tuck her husband in the basement somewhere until November? No. No, I think that makes makes it's a weird- You want to spread that white love, right?

Starting point is 01:35:07 No, it's not that because- You want to be proud of that white love. No, it's not that. It's because right now she's being accused of being an anti-Semite and her husband is Jewish. So yes, she needs him. I didn't hear the anti-Semite. Oh, no.

Starting point is 01:35:19 It's because of the whole- The Netanyahu thing because she- Yes. So again, that's the type. They're trying to cast her as a radical. The truth is Kamala Harris ain't nowhere near a radical. They did that with Barack too. again, that's the type, they're trying to cast her as a radical. The truth is Kamala Harris ain't nowhere near radical. With Barack too. Yeah, that's what they do. And Barack was closer to a radical than Kamala. Kamala is center of the world on everything. And even on Israel-Palestine, she has a terrible position. I don't know. I've never heard it at all.

Starting point is 01:35:37 She doesn't talk about it much now, but she talked about it before she became VP. She has bad politics on this. She's exactly what they should want But they want it they want to scare America that and they scare America by saying this crazy black person gonna come and do this Radical shit. So her husband makes her look less radical right They make it, you know black people is I don't know how black people feel about it But white voters will feel more comfortable Jewish voters will feel more comfortable It's hard to say you're anti-Semitic when you marry a Jewish guy.

Starting point is 01:36:05 Right. And he's not like a radical, like Jewish voice for peace, Jewish guy, he's like a regular mainline support Israel. They say it about black people, like we can't be Jewish. Which is unfair too, right? They can call whoever anti-Semite, that's their shit.

Starting point is 01:36:19 Yeah. Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah, so I think it's gonna be an interesting race, and they keep recruiting, not to change the subject But they keep recruiting people like the Ambrose's in the world Here we go. I'm saying here we go to to make to make One first to make Biden look like a bad choice now to make maybe Kamala look when you get black people or people of color To say don't vote for Kamala. I rock with Biden that takes away the sting of argument that by that Trump is a racist

Starting point is 01:36:48 Yes, so you said recruit you. Oh Trump's not racist. You know, I'm black and I know he's not racist I've tested I've done the research. He's not racist when you start to do that you you you start stripping away votes if if Kamala needs like 94% of the black vote and probably I Would say 88 to 90% of the black male vote to be successful here. She ain't gonna get that. She ain't gonna get that. She's not gonna get 90% of the black vote, black male vote for sure.

Starting point is 01:37:13 Niggas love Trump. Okay, so we've talked about Project 2025 up here. And one of the things that Trump was literally just on the campaign talking about was about getting rid of qualified immunity and just making it blanket immunity. Whether or not he can actually do that, it's part of the Project 2025 plan. Isn't it like kind of like voting against your best interest, like your best interest to stay alive, to vote for Trump as a black man as a black person in general but specifically black men people with that

Starting point is 01:37:49 one thing I mean sure but people don't vote their reality vote they vote their dreams and they vote their their hallucinations I think like that's a bar it's fascinating to watch like if you look at like poor white people I mean there are really poor white people in West Virginia, Tennessee, people that make $5 an hour, $6 an hour, they will vote for Trump and vote for laws that keep them poor. They will, for example, even like some of the tax law, they want the death tax, for example, it's not really a death tax, but basically if you pass on a lot of money to

Starting point is 01:38:24 somebody else, you get tax for it. Wealthy people, like I shouldn't get tax for passing on, when I really a debt tax, but basically if you pass on a lot of money to somebody else, you get taxed for it. Wealthy people, like I shouldn't get taxed for passing on, when I got my 50 million I want to pass on to my son, I shouldn't get taxed for it. We're like no, if you're maintaining intergenerational wealth over there, you gotta pay this new generation of people who need to pay their fair share,

Starting point is 01:38:39 and whether you agree with it or not, that's what creates roads, that's what creates schools, that's what creates libraries, but they get poor white people. To sign up for that. To say, yeah, I want that. Because even though I don't have $50 million, one day I might. And when I do, I want that too.

Starting point is 01:38:56 And I don't want you people taking my money. And they racialize poverty. So they think of, they'll close ranks around their whiteness at the expense of their class positions. In other words, they still think they're better than me. Yes. They still think they're better than you. And so they want the law to make sure that you don't get their money,

Starting point is 01:39:14 even though they don't have any. Yeah. I have a question for you. Yeah. Can you see anything positive that Trump can do for the country? Yes. The golf club, the golf fucking club's gonna be lit.

Starting point is 01:39:30 For real. One thing that Trump, Trump is so hands off, Trump is so hands off that there are ways that, I'll give you a concrete example, war. Trump doesn't like war. Not because he has a conscience or because he's immoral, but there are moments where he's like, that's not our business and we don't make no money

Starting point is 01:39:49 off of that particular war. Whereas Biden is a little more hawkish on certain issues. So one of the things that Trump will do is be like, that's not our fight, leave him alone. And I think there's moments where we, even though I agree with that premise, it's for a different reason, but at the end of the day,

Starting point is 01:40:03 if we could not go into another war and not send more money overseas to sway Lee's point, that might be a good thing. Yeah, I agree with that too. Yeah. I do. Yeah, but it's not worth it. It's not worth all the other shit Trump is gonna do. Okay.

Starting point is 01:40:14 That's right, and that's my frustration to all you people out there that are saying, Joe Biden is racist, or Joe Biden doesn't do this for poor people, or Joe Biden is giving too much money to Israel, or Joe Biden doesn't care about reparations, or Joe Biden... I agree with all of that, or Joe Biden doesn't care about reparations, or Joe Biden... I agree with all of that.

Starting point is 01:40:27 What I don't understand is why people think Donald Trump is going to do better or do more in those areas. The STEMI checks. Right. So many... You think it's really that? I see so many fucking people using that. People say that.

Starting point is 01:40:39 They're like, I had more money when Trump was in office. That's literally all they say. That's their entire argument. I was like, yeah, but if blanket immunity happens, you can be dead. So you're going to be spending the money that you have or don't have. So you say, is a video of Trump talking

Starting point is 01:40:51 about blanket immunity? Yes. He gave a speech. He gave a speech. Not only that, not only that. He said, after these four years, you guys don't even have to worry about voting. Do you know what that fucking means?

Starting point is 01:41:02 I was like, I mean, someone gotta break that door. What I think it mean, it can't mean that. No, that's what it means. It means the complete eradication of democracy. It's over. Like, you the king now. Yes, a dictatorship. His camp tried to clean it up, but I don't know if I believe that.

Starting point is 01:41:16 That was one of the worst clean-up attempts. Well, how did they clean it up? They said, oh, because he'll do such a great job that you will have no confusion about who to vote for in the future. Yeah, no, that's not what he meant meant Right, he tried to save it, but yeah Trump don't believe in democracy He's been saying it from the beginning when I get elected the first few days Basically, I'm put the constant throw the Constitution out and I'm just gonna do shit Then he said he was joking about that

Starting point is 01:41:34 Then he said you don't need no elections are you joking about that or you misunderstand Trump does not believe in democracy These Supreme Court decisions we just saw last two weeks are crazy And if they're to defend Trump one them, and maybe the most important one, is basically saying that you can't prosecute a former president for basically crimes that were done. While they were in office. While in office, as long as they're official business. So-

Starting point is 01:41:58 And who's to determine what official business actually is? The president. Literally the president. So what that means in a very practical way is, if Joe Biden right now, no, excuse me, Joe Biden right now. The president. Literally, the president. So what that means in a very practical way is if Joe Biden right now would have said, you know what? I don't like anybody on this podcast and I think they're a threat to national security and he dropped a bomb on this building. He could just do that.

Starting point is 01:42:21 Now, we might disagree, there might be human rights violations, the international community might come, but we couldn't criminally prosecute him for that because it was official business. He could execute, he could assassinate Trump right now based on the Supreme Court ruling. As long as he says it's in the interest of the nation, it's in national interest, he's protected. They did that law to protect Trump from being prosecuted because he basically put that, he appointed that Supreme Court basically, six to three now they have a, so basically basically it's becoming more more like a kingdom and less and less like a democracy. That shit is scary There's a reason why he like, you know, Putin is like his fucking buddy

Starting point is 01:42:54 He looks how long has been Putin been forever decades now, right with just a very small Yeah with a very small break where he technically he wasn't, but he still was. Yeah, he admires dictators. Trump admires dictators. And I think that's the appeal to it for a lot of black people, especially brothers that I talked to, is there's a thing that Trump does that becomes our vision of freedom. I think I said that last time I was here, like our idea of freedom is being like them. It's like being like a Donald Trump. And so we were like, shit, I'm voting for more of that.

Starting point is 01:43:23 But again, we're voting our imaginations, is not our reality so by voting for a Trump you make actually less likely that you could become a Trump because they're not trying to share the wealth and spread the wealth they try to make sure that the wealth stays with them and that's what rich people do they keep the wealth among themselves all powerful people do so I'm not optimistic. So you're not rolling with Amber? I love Amber. We go way back. She's from Philly. You know, I hit her offline a couple of times, because I wanted to talk about it, because I think she's sincere.

Starting point is 01:43:57 I just think she's wrong. I don't think Amber is selling out. I just think she's really, really wrong. Did you watch? Shit. Yo. Yo, you good? I ain't really wrong. Did you watch? Yo, so you good? I ain't going. Yo, what the fuck? Where you from?

Starting point is 01:44:10 This is my man. This is my man. Holy shit. Yo, I read the whole thing. And then she tried to throw Wiz under the bus. Yeah, Wiz texted me. He said there was nothing wrong. Go for it.

Starting point is 01:44:18 Post that shit right now. I'm like, no. I know Wiz was not happy about that. Wiz texted me. I got a bitch text coming out. Yeah, don't jinx it. I'm like, no. I know Wiz was not happy about that. Wiz texted me. I got a bitch text coming out. Yeah, don't me. He said there was nothing wrong. Go for it. Post that shit right now. I'm like, no. I know Wiz was not happy about that.

Starting point is 01:44:26 Wiz texted me, I gotta go text him. I'm like, no. Yeah, don't jam me up. But wait, didn't he just release a song called Wiz Owens? Isn't that like a kind of callback to the interview? I don't know. Legit question. I didn't hear the song.

Starting point is 01:44:40 Okay, well, we can get to that and listen to it offline. But what did, did you happen to see the Candace Owens Amber? I saw some of it. Yeah, okay, and this is what I'm like so there's this that's what I say there's different kinds of people some people I think are sellouts and some people I think just Are passionate yeah, and it passionate and wrong. You know what I'm saying? So she's not a sellout to mark you full of shit I go Shit I thought she was selling. Amber's stance would be the exact definition

Starting point is 01:45:08 of sellout unless you change it. I'm gonna tell you why. Only in our interaction talking about it, I'm like, I think they really have her gas and believing that this shit is true. For a check though. But she's not doing it for free. Yeah, there's been that.

Starting point is 01:45:21 She's being kicked. That might be true. Let me put it differently. Because I think that's a fair point. Ultimately, I might define it as selling out, but there's some people who I know, I know conservatives say, you know what the line is shorter over there, I'm going over there. Or I don't give a fuck. I'll say anything. Just pay me.

Starting point is 01:45:34 OK, I don't think that's how she's moving. I think if I think if I said to you right now, I could explain to you why the sixes are better than the Knicks. You'd be like, you'd be like, fuck that, you're right. But if I say, look, give me an hour, I'll give you 50,000 for the hour, just to hear my position. I would listen. You'd listen.

Starting point is 01:45:53 And if I told you every week, we'd reassess this. At that same rate? At that same rate. You might find more argument, you might genuinely start to find more argument compelling. So you take advantage of her. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying I think she believes this shit took advantage of her. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying I think she believes this shit.

Starting point is 01:46:06 Oh, okay. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. So I don't think all of them believe that shit. And I'm not convinced Candace believes that shit. Believes what? Do you think the pro-Trump shit?

Starting point is 01:46:16 Got it. When you say, cause I do believe that she believes some of this shit, the reproductive rights part is the part that's like, wait a second, Amber. Yes. Wait a second, Amber. I agree.

Starting point is 01:46:29 I watched them slut walks. I was looking for sluts. And you had them there. Right. And y'all was marching and you had your fists up. How was she explaining this? And you said, my pussy, my pussy, my choice, and we aren't babies, and you did all of that shit.

Starting point is 01:46:42 Now, she's... What is she saying about it? Has she changed her position on it or is she just not talking about it? No, but what was interesting about the interview was she said what people don't understand is that Trump is pro-choice. Those are the words she used. And I was like, wait, hold on, wait, what? I don't know. She might not know what pro-choice means. I started to believe the same thing. Like she must not know what that actually means. I think I could see a world where know what pro-choice means. I'm starting to believe the same thing. Like she must not know what that actually means.

Starting point is 01:47:07 I think I could see a world where he is pro-choice. What she was trying to, what she was trying to. Oh, he's definitely pro-choice. Behind closed doors, she's like, she probably chooses that shit every six months. They started to try to split hairs like a motherfucker in this interview. They tried to make a distinction between Republican, conservative, and Christian. Like the three things are not, you know, interwoven with one another. And so she says that she is behind Trump the man,

Starting point is 01:47:29 but she is not necessarily defining herself as a conservative or a Christian. She actually talked a lot more about her atheist journey. So... Which set Candace off her, because Candace is like super Christian now. Yeah. And Catholic.

Starting point is 01:47:44 What was more insane was the comments. I have never seen a YouTube comment section like this before in my entire life. It was 99% positive. Holy shit. They are like embracing Amber. It's a cult. She is the second coming of I don't know what.

Starting point is 01:48:00 As long as you're on their side, it doesn't matter. Exactly. All that other shit doesn't matter. But the moment she steps even a little bit out, then she'll be talking about the slut walks, and this, and this, and this, and this. But she's useful for them. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:48:12 I'm not calling her stupid or an idiot, but there is a way that that expression, a useful idiot. No, no, but I'm just saying that expression, a useful idiot. Somebody who doesn't know a lot, but they know just enough to be dangerous. And also, her past is actually useful in this particular situation. Because I can't tell you how many times

Starting point is 01:48:25 I saw somebody in the comments saying, oh yeah, I'm a former porn star, and then I saw the light, and Jesus is Lord, and da da da da. So it's just like that whole slut walk, and her kinda like showing off all her goods and shit like that, that actually benefits her right now

Starting point is 01:48:41 with the stance that she's taking. Right. It says something about, again, no disrespect to Amber, but it's like the fact that she's speaking at the Republican convention says that the number of black celebrities that you can get to defend Trump has to be small. That's who you have doing like a keynote speech. That was my point. That was my question.

Starting point is 01:49:02 It's only four days. Even going and choosing her, like no disrespect to Amber, I don't think she has that influence today. Yeah, that little goober head was fine. Well, I mean she do have influence. She do have influence, because look at how my man responded. That's my friend, let me chill.

Starting point is 01:49:19 I think that she don't really understand what's going on. He put his whole cape on. Take your cape off. Take it off. But you put your cape on. Take your cape off. Take it off. But you put your cape on for motherfuckers that you know that do wrong doing your work. Oh, now you got your Mark cape on. No, that's okay, that's okay.

Starting point is 01:49:31 I'm not. I'm not. It's just- Minute, minute talking. Let her finish. Let her finish. I put my cape on for whom? I'm gonna fuck you up as soon as this camera stops rolling.

Starting point is 01:49:38 You are cruising for a bruising, motherfucker. Mr. Man Shit. Hey, when Mark leave, I'm gonna yell at bruising, motherfucker. Mr. Man shit. Hey, when Mark leave, I'm gonna yell at him. I hear that. That's what he said. Yeah, take a cable of Mark. As your friend, yo, she cool. I get it. Yeah, but part of it is just I don't like the,

Starting point is 01:49:57 because she's a woman as well too. Well, look, if I spoke to her offline, I don't want to be online talking to her. And I like that. Why are we different than I did on, because I just don't move that way. I'm the same way like that. So I'm with you on that.

Starting point is 01:50:08 But it's not because she's a woman and being taken advantage of, right? I don't think she's being taken, I don't think it's a gender, I mean, I think they're exploiting black people. And I think they'll take a black man, a black woman. I think they take- They'll take anybody.

Starting point is 01:50:19 They'll take anybody as long as they're not trans, because you know, that's bad for business. You know what I mean? Oh no, no, they'd probably take somebody who was trans that didn't go through the full transition and they say, I was wrong and now I see. Exactly. Actually, that would be fantastic for them.

Starting point is 01:50:31 Exactly. Or they'll take a Caitlyn Jenner, who's like the Uncle Tom of like trans people. Of trans? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't understand. Uncle Tom of trans people. That's crazy.

Starting point is 01:50:38 That's crazy. Uncle Pat. Uncle Pat. You know what I'm talking about? Now that's funny. Wouldn't it be Aunt Tammy now? You know, like might be. Yeah. Relative pack, yes.

Starting point is 01:50:46 I ain't gonna lie. The Republicans, hey, I'm not a politic man, but what I can say about the Republicans, the fucking talent booker for them has been killing. Whoever is booking the talent. Now, Meg is about to do the thing with. Kamala. Taylor Swift.

Starting point is 01:51:04 Now see, that's the one that's gonna fuck Trump and them up. That's a game changer. That Taylor Swift, Beyonce, virtual combo co-headliner shit. Yeah. It's a wrap. Sorry Chef G. Sorry. Sorry little pumps.

Starting point is 01:51:19 Sorry buddy. But what's them two getting to go? And they got Cardi, they got some more people. And Meg, yeah, it's over. They got people with some audience. Yeah. Right. They do. And they got Lil Pump.

Starting point is 01:51:33 I mean like, Lil Pump. I still don't know why he's a thing. Why is he a thing? Like the internet be making people things and then it'd be 10, 15 years and I still don't know why people, like what? I don't know, the song, the movie. Like I just think of a shit stain,

Starting point is 01:51:49 like a white shit stain. I've never seen him not look shit stain-ish. Yeah. That's your man? No. Then diss him with me. No, because you- Diss him with me.

Starting point is 01:52:03 When I jump up, come on, help me. In my mind, you were taking people off your, off your diss list. Well, you gotta add more. Oh, so that's, you're adding him. That's an easy target. Yeah. Okay. I don't know nothing about the niggas.

Starting point is 01:52:14 I like easy targets on my, on my hit list. I want it to be easy as me going to get a cup of coffee. Okay. Do you know what he looks like? A shit step. Oh, I forgot. You can Google him right now and then form an opinion. And join him.

Starting point is 01:52:30 Amber, you look good though. I don't care. Have Republican experience. Shout out to Amber. She look good to be on that stage. Oh yeah. Some good right wing. She's like damn.

Starting point is 01:52:36 Amber, give Mel a call. I'll give her what? She's like. Amber, give Mel a call. For what? So you can support her. She's a woman. She's doing her thing. Oh my God. And she rock with you. I don't support support her. She's a woman, she's doing her thing. And she rock with you.

Starting point is 01:52:47 Mel don't support all women. That's what I'm saying, she rocks with you. She knows support all women, and Mel's not a girl's girl. I am a girl's girl. No you're not. Yes I am. You're definitely not a girl's girl. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:52:56 It's fine. I am. We'll look it up later. I stand with you though, whatever you want to do. You're holding, just hold, there you go. Oh, your nipple's gone. What? Come on, Parks.

Starting point is 01:53:03 It's right there. Look, can one of y'all explain um since we are talking politics you have Amanda Seals versus Kamala Harris Oh God more politics. I mean I saw I saw that I Agree with everything Amanda said honestly always in terms of the critique of cotton terms of the critique of Kamala Harris I'm a girl a girl you disagree with. Before you leave, I'm gonna find a girl you disagree with. I disagree with Candace!

Starting point is 01:53:29 Candace Owens. Another girl. That don't count. That was easy. That was a layup. That was a layup. But go ahead. I think we have to have a critique of Kamala Harris.

Starting point is 01:53:42 That's all I'm gonna say. I think at the end of the day, we can't pretend, what happens if we get desperate and we say, well, look, there's a chance to beat Trump. Everybody be quiet. I know there's a lot of problems with Kamala. Let's pretend they don't exist. And let's just go straight forward and vote for her.

Starting point is 01:53:53 Blue, no matter what, right? And I'm saying that's an immature political approach. And for black people in particular, it never comes back. It never serves us well. Because if we vote blue, no matter who, as they say, then when they get elected, they have no accountability to us. They know we're gonna keep voting blue no matter who. So I'm saying, look, vote, but like,

Starting point is 01:54:15 apply some pressure, apply some leverage. You know what I mean? And I think if we, but it's a moment where people are feeling so frustrated. It's like after 9-11, when people were like, remember the, especially if you lived in New York or Jersey, anywhere like that, everybody was just America, patriotism, blah, blah, blah.

Starting point is 01:54:32 And it was like, maybe we shouldn't be going to war or maybe we shouldn't be launching weapons back or maybe we should ask what happened. There was no room for that shit. Anybody who said that was blasted. They were told it was unpatriotic. They got fired from their jobs. I mean, Bill Maher,

Starting point is 01:54:44 people just got blasted for criticizing it. And then over time, people were like, oh wait, maybe we should have thought about this shit some more before we signed the Patriot Act. Similarly, right now, everybody's hype about Kamala Harris. Well, they're also hype about it because of the lack of time. You know, Biden fucking stayed in the race when he should have, like, way too long. And so there's only four months left. So really, how are we spending our time and our resources? Campaign to get her in because the alternative of voting for Trump or not voting at all

Starting point is 01:55:11 is a vote for Trump. And that is terrifying. It's the whole lesser of two evils conversation. The fact of the matter is that you're choosing an evil in whether you like it or not, but it's manageable. You know what I'm saying? So the criticism is like, it just seems like it's ill time. And I think that's a very important point. I think that's a very important point. I think that's a very important point. I think that's a very important point.

Starting point is 01:55:32 I think that's a very important point. I think that's a very important point. I think that's a very important point. I think that's a very important point. I think that's a very important point. and low-level elections whatsoever. And that is where a lot of the power kind of like differential happens. It's not the presidential election. That's just the one that gets all the fucking marketing. Right.

Starting point is 01:55:51 So, you know, with Amanda, she received so much criticism because she is so outspoken and she thinks so critically that people are like, bitch, just shut the fuck up right now. You know what I mean? But she's just like, she's challenging people to think critically and to also understand that your vote is valuable

Starting point is 01:56:06 and hold your politician's feet to the fire. Yes, and somebody's gotta be that voice. Somebody's gotta be the unpopular voice that says, this shit is wrong, or this shit don't make no sense. Doesn't mean you have to agree with everything, but at least think about that shit. You know what I mean? And I just think when there's too much,

Starting point is 01:56:20 it's the same thing with music. When everybody celebrates an album or song, it's something like, this shit ain't good. But sometimes nobody wants to say that in that moment. They'll later on say it. Oh, you're your Ish shit now. Yup, that's what... Yeah.

Starting point is 01:56:32 Oh, fuck. That's what Ish does. Oh, for real? Okay, yeah. You gotta be done. I stand with Ish. Shout out to Ish, by the way. Shout out to Ish.

Starting point is 01:56:44 Hope he's enjoying his vacation. I was about to say he's on vacation. I was about to say, okay I hope he's enjoying his vacation. I was supposed to say vacation? This guy's on fucking vacation. Fucking angered by it too. Shout out to Ish man, hopefully you're enjoying your vacation and you owe me a thousand dollars. You owed it to me before you left. You owe it to me now and hopefully I get it when you come back. Shout out to Ish. Alright, are you two finished with this politics?

Starting point is 01:57:06 Are you all sure? We're all finished with this politics thing. Yeah, but it was really y'all too. We were just quiet. My girl Mel, I can't wait. I saw it, I saw it. Hey, he leaving. He leaving.

Starting point is 01:57:20 We gonna get you girl. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. There was something else in the politicky, didn't the politicky. Oh, you still wanna go. Well, no, no, no. This one is not too politicky. Actually, it's not politics at all.

Starting point is 01:57:34 Hold on, before we finish, I did look up that Wiz Owens is a play on Rick Owens. Oh, okay. If for sure. He styled it the same way the Rick Owens logo is. Understood. Yeah, I don't remember to make Wiz be into a political... And it's an album. Because of the reference that she made,

Starting point is 01:57:49 that she had a conversation with him and that he kind of pushed her out the nest to do this. Just trying to drag him in my way. I mean... Drink your water, nigga. Drink your water. Drink your water, you got nothing to say. That's what you got thirsty, right? Co-sign this bullshit with water, man.

Starting point is 01:58:05 Now you're just putting shit on Black men. Where's Khalifa's side? When culture people say Owens, they might mean Rick. Yes. I was thinking a bunch of other Owens before. But I get it. The Owens brothers. Jesse Owens, anything, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:58:21 Terrell, TL. Yeah. No, Mel will never gonna miss a chance to kick a Black nigga back in. That's a terrible narrative. I take't know. Terrell, TL. Yeah. Mella ain't never gonna miss a chance to kick a black nigga back in. That's a terrible narrative. I take it back. Thank you. Vlad, apparently in Vlad News, Vlad News is funny. You delivering Vlad News is even funny.

Starting point is 01:58:38 Yeah, it is. You know the funny shit? I be watching Vlad Climbs. I just don't fuck with Vlad. And even that is like, all right, I don't fuck with you, but. Salute. Yeah. Yeah. It ain't a big beef. Armani has yet to send this clip.

Starting point is 01:58:54 Man, what? You got Sprint? What you got there? Been 10 minutes. Sprint's still around? No. They joined with T-Mobile, right? Yeah, they're like chasing. Anyway, what I got is Vlad is predicting which rapper will die next. Well, the way it was explained was Vlad had put out a list of rappers

Starting point is 01:59:11 that he's interviewed. Yes, that passed away. That passed away. And he said he told Polo G, yo, dog, if you keep moving the way you move, you'll be next on that list. That's the way it was explained to me. OK, that doesn't sound as bad as the headline.

Starting point is 01:59:24 Yeah, yeah, the headline first was crazy. Like, yo, you. He's predicting way it was explained to me. Okay, it doesn't sound as bad as the headline. Yeah, the headline person's crazy like yo, you. He's predicting. Yeah, predicting his death. If you're given a warning to somebody, look, I don't like the path you going on and the reason I don't like the path you going on is because I've seen it in the past. I've seen the results. I gotta say, as much as I would love to disagree with Vlad, because he's one of my least favorite people in the world, I gotta say that ain't wrong. I actually appreciate the warning. I don't. He's Vlad because he's one of my least favorite people in the world. I gotta say that ain't wrong I actually appreciate the warning. I don't he's right is wrong What I was saying the only thing I don't like is if you see something going on that right message wrong messenger Yes, and also like you don't know sizing and also don't exploit it

Starting point is 01:59:57 Don't bring a more than having crash out on you on film for views. That's what I don't respect That's why I've always disagree with Vlad on Is like getting a spectacle out of this shit. Man, I used to watch AR Ab going. Shout out to Ab, that's my brother. I used to, you know, I used to watch him going and I would hit Ab up myself like yo. What you thought, yeah.

Starting point is 02:00:19 He was going up there a little reckless. Yeah, yeah, you know, and, but as an interviewer, I wouldn't air that. Yeah. I've had interviews with people, I remember when I was at BET full-time, people would come up there, I mean, I've had people, rappers, like, would've ruined their career.

Starting point is 02:00:35 They were so high and drunk. It would've gone viral, and the shit they were saying on camera were high and drunk was the wildest shit you would've ever seen. So what would you do in that circumstance? I'm on the other side. I canceled it. Okay. I think it depends on, that they were saying on camera while high and drunk was the wildest shit you would ever see. So what would you do in that circumstance? I wanna understand that. I canceled it. I think it depends on,

Starting point is 02:00:48 I think it's a cultural thing, right? Of where you come from. See, I'm the same way with you. I'm the same, I think the same way you think. But also you gotta remember, man, some of these people that's not from our culture, man, they interview serial killers, they interview people that eat people,

Starting point is 02:01:03 they just sit there with a straight face and have these conversations. They don't look at it the same way we look at it. And then you may say that, well, you know, you are being a culture vulture, but, yes, but a lot of times we also have to blame the artists for sitting there, like you can't blame them being high. That's how I look at that.

Starting point is 02:01:24 You sat there and you wanna talk. You like the attention that come with that. You just don't know the ramifications that come with it. I really believe you can't get mad at nobody putting out what you gave them. That is true. I stand in that, like if you don't, I say all the time, yo, if you don't want it out,

Starting point is 02:01:38 don't say it, no matter what. But both things can be true, so like in the case, you know. It's not up to him, it's not his job to now censor you. But he also goes digging for that. And again. Yes, okay, yes. Okay, yeah, okay. That's different. And he has a right to go dig for it.

Starting point is 02:01:51 And artists have, at some point we gotta say, stop going there. There's a million other places you could go and not be exploited that way. So I'm not saying he's doing anything like illegal. Did you see Pee Wee Long Way on there? Nah. So Pee Wee Long Way. Who's Pee Wee Long Way on there? Nah. So, Pee Wee Long Way.

Starting point is 02:02:05 Who's Pee Wee Long Way? He's a rapper, a southern rapper. Where's a lot of blue? You asked Mark Lamont if he saw it. Well, he said he watched Vlad Clips. Yeah, but Pee Wee Long. So, but the reason why I'm asking is, a lot of people shout this interview out

Starting point is 02:02:17 because Vlad tried to jam him up multiple times. And the way he navigated it, he's like, yeah, so you wear a lot of blue, are you with the Crips? Nah, it's just my favorite color, I like blue M&Ms. And I'm just, he knew to dance around these questions. I see you trying to jam me up. Ask this, sir, shout out to sir. True.

Starting point is 02:02:36 I see you trying to jam me up. I'm gonna come to the platform because again, there's not a lot of platform that are interviewing some of these rappers. Yeah, and it's beneficial. So I'm trying to get myself out there. It's the part where, like how we say somebody's media trained, they're not trained to know that you don't have to answer these questions this way. Let me ask you a question.

Starting point is 02:02:55 I don't think that falls on Vlad though. I agree. And that's why I say Vlad has a right to do that exploitative shit. I hope at some point we stop going there and allowing him to. We got to get, we have to have another outlet then. And that's it. Why do we hold Vlad to the standard? Like, you know, he's a, what is he, Russian?

Starting point is 02:03:12 What is his background? Something, something. What are we holding? Like, if you watch the white people do interviews, I've seen, I watch a John, there's a crazy nigga named, that was eating older people. I've watched a white lady sit there and interview him on 16 minutes or 60 minutes. I mean, like what, what, what?

Starting point is 02:03:27 16 minutes. Whatever, whatever is called. Why do we have these, why do we have these expectations of Vlad? He's doing exactly what he's doing. Because, because he pretends to be, oh God, I'm sorry. We're doing exactly what we've seen all of them do.

Starting point is 02:03:39 It's a little different though. It's different though. They're interviewing people usually after they got caught, stuff about that. Yeah. He's interviewing people who are, they people usually after they got caught, stuff about that. Yeah. He's interviewing people who are, they're using the interview to put active cases on you.

Starting point is 02:03:51 I don't think he's wrong like that. I think that's- But he's supposed to be us. That's the thing. No, he didn't that. He never claimed to be us. I know he's not, but I'm saying that when you go on 60 Minutes, you know what you're doing.

Starting point is 02:04:01 He didn't want to apologize in minutes to Farrakhan. He don't claim to be us. No, but he claims to be part of the culture and in the culture. That's why he gets to interviews. That's why he's in the mix. And I'm just saying, if he won't be- And he is part of the culture.

Starting point is 02:04:13 That's what makes it exploitative. 60 minutes, I have no expectation 60 minutes is gonna treat us right. So if he was to do it on 60 minutes, you would look at the different. Right, and the truth is if he did on 60 minutes, nobody would go. Because he's not talented.

Starting point is 02:04:24 He doesn't know a lot. You know what I mean? He's not a sophisticated thinker. You know what I mean? That's hate. That's not hate. Watch my debate with him on the death penalty. I dog-walked him. I mean, I'll beat anybody in debate in general. But, no, I mean... Let's talk your shit. Let's go. It's a fact. I'm not trying to make you dance.

Starting point is 02:04:45 With him, it was like, it would be like a pro basketball player playing Bronnie James. Right? Oh, shit. So we call it callback. Oh, you're back on your Bronnie James, man. You're back on your Bronnie James. That's what we call a callback.

Starting point is 02:04:58 That's what we call a callback. I'm just saying. I know what a callback is. I'm here. I'm here. Mark, because y'all was on defense. Y'all was caping for Bronnie James last time. Talk about how you know he can't play. And now we see he cannot play. I'm still caping. I'm gonna break your. Cause y'all was on defense. Y'all was caping for Bronnie James last time. Talk about how you know he can't play.

Starting point is 02:05:06 And now we see he cannot play. I'm still caping for Bronnie James. You still think he belongs in the NBA? As a player? Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah, he does. Would you want him on the Knicks? No.

Starting point is 02:05:16 Why? Cause you want to win? The Knicks aren't winning now, Mo. They're developing. What are the Lakers doing with LeBron at 40? Well, the Lakers win now looks like drafting Brawny because we have Lebron.

Starting point is 02:05:29 So that is part of our win now. That's fair. Let's keep him satisfied. Let's bring the kid on. That's a fair. But I'm here in the way that the summer league Laker kids was talking about being on Brawny team.

Starting point is 02:05:40 It was like Lebron was on the team. Like he didn't have to abide by none of the rules. He didn't talk like the rest of us. The coaches didn't speak to him like the rest of us. But what I want him on the team, it was like LeBron was on the team. Like he didn't have to abide by none of the rules. He didn't talk like the rest of us. The coaches didn't speak to him like the rest of us. But what I want him on the Knicks, fuck no. It's fair enough.

Starting point is 02:05:52 But also, shit, and I thought about you. What was it, the second or third, the second pick in the draft? His, you see his point total? Yeah, it's trash. That's the second pick. So I mean, the 55th pick Why are expectations so so y'all y'all did kids y'all be doing kids wrong man?

Starting point is 02:06:11 You and issue went crazy on Bronnie James. We just didn't think he belonged to tag teams It turns out we were right y'all weren't right. We said that he wasn't we're not saying it yet We've seen a little bit of a summer league like that's not yet. We've seen a little bit of a summer league. Like that's not, Oh, let's see. You can't close the book on him. He don't belong in the league. I'm not closing the book on him. I'm just saying, he averaged five points in college. And now he's at, or 4.8, excuse me. And now he's averaging about what? Four or five in the summer league. There was another kid that was drafted in the twenties that averaged four points

Starting point is 02:06:38 in college. We got that one wrong too. Whoever drafted him got that one way wrong. They just saw something long term, bro. They're not, see, they're not looking for instant, for him to be LeBron. That's why it was the 50-50 pick. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to develop you. We're going to wait it out. I'm not looking for right now. Some teams are looking for, I need the players to get it done today.

Starting point is 02:06:59 I want him to come into the league, league ready and be a star, take my team to the next level today. So I want you all on the record right now, especially you two. What's up? I'm a circle back. Let's get it. But I have a question. Is that an expectation that people shouldn't have?

Starting point is 02:07:14 For certain players? It depends on what it depends on your team and what mode you're in. They have a four year contract. They have a four year guarantee contract. There are teams that are in rebuild mode. We know we're not winning for the next couple years. That's my point. So we want to get the right pieces. Trash.

Starting point is 02:07:27 So that in maybe four or five years, we can compete. There are teams that are actually in rebuild mode. And then there are teams that are in, like he said, the next in win now. We want to get it done this year. So we don't have time for nobody who's not ready this year. Right. Can I just get y'all on the record real quick?

Starting point is 02:07:44 What's up? Will he be of a quality rotation, even just rotation, I don't want to start, will he be one of the top eight guys on an NBA roster in five years? I think it's possible. I say yes. Put me down for a yes. Now you get the guy answer.

Starting point is 02:07:57 No, no, no, look, look, look. Yo, the NBA is their job to look at projection. How many guys started off bad and then ended up to be real good? How many guys were slept on in the draft and then turned out like this? Not this bad. Come on, Mark. Listen, I like the kid. He's a nice kid.

Starting point is 02:08:14 Oh, here we go. You don't like the kid. No, no, I'm just saying. You hate this kid. You don't like this kid. And why can't he learn in real time? Like, you don't believe in that? I think he should learn in college. I think he should go to the G League and learn after college.

Starting point is 02:08:28 Maybe go learn in Latvia, you know, somewhere. And then at some point- You know what's funny about you, Mark? That's crazy, Mark. You saw the attendance for the Lakers summer league games, right? Yeah, I watched the games. And I never watched the Lakers summer league games. You saw it not an empty seat in that house.

Starting point is 02:08:43 Yeah. Versus when fucking the first and second pick in the draft played in some of the League. All true. Empty building. So some of that Caitlin Clark advertising magic, like part of Bronnie, he don't really have to be the best basketball player. I think a lot of-

Starting point is 02:09:00 He's going to be an advertising darling for the next 10 years. I think a lot of sports analysis overlooks the... Marketability? The marketability, the business aspects that come with drafting or signing someone, like even with quarterback people debating on how valuable a quarterback is. So that's Amy's valuable. But doesn't it affect your marketability if you like

Starting point is 02:09:19 just continue to deliver lackluster results? And once LeBron retires, exactly, and once LeBron retires and he's not in the rotation, I'm not sure how much attention you're gonna get. I agree with you. If he's even, like say he was Austin Rivers, right, who's a very solid NBA player, but not a star. If he was Austin Rivers good,

Starting point is 02:09:37 I'd be like, draft him, motherfucker. Draft him higher than he belongs, pay him more than he deserves, because you can justify it. I'm not convinced Bronnie James is an NBA player. I don't think he's a professional basketball player, not an NBA level player. I just don't see it. I'm not convinced Ronnie James is an NBA player. I don't think he's a professional basketball player. Not an NBA level player. I just don't see him.

Starting point is 02:09:48 Maybe not yet. I didn't see it in high school when he was maybe the fifth best player on his team, fourth, fifth, and see it in college. But his brother is the other one. Bryce. Bryce has a more, has a NBA body. He doesn't have his brother's athleticism.

Starting point is 02:09:58 Bryce looks to have a higher ceiling. Yeah, right. If you just, the eye test. He looks like, right. Exactly. He'll be there, right? But we'll see but I'm just you know, I'm just saying. Mark, you're too old to be, we too old up here to be hating on kids. One niggas 19. We can't even use our adult fucking brain to analyze. It's not nice. But why are we? You got kids? Yeah, I got three of them. How old is the oldest?

Starting point is 02:10:21 20, should be 24 at the end of the month. That's one how those 2024 then in a month Yeah, man. I don't want to see I got kids like my kid got a mix tape or something if I went on Like adults like 50-year-old dude, hey You're a bum, you shouldn't be grabbing that. Wait a minute, jump butt, jump butt, jump butt. Are you fucking, Lil Pump is 23. He's somebody's kid. How is, what's the difference? You just don't know his dad. That's the difference.

Starting point is 02:10:52 That's the difference. So we give him a pass so we know his dad? Dog, if we know niggas dad, then it becomes that's peace. It ain't for us to use our real brain and say the truth about somebody kid. If we know the dad, we know the dad. Cause he's doing things with his son that a lot of people wish that they can and fuck little punk I love if I was a brian. I'd be doing the same shit. Ah, but I would hope you would tell me Stop it

Starting point is 02:11:20 But it's not gonna stop you from doing it for your son because I don't use my best judgment as a parent I'm gonna do everything to protect my parent, my kid. It's everybody else to hold us accountable. Okay. So you're gonna, I'm the accountability right now. No, you should be understanding. You're saying that, but a lot. I understand it, I just don't want him to do it.

Starting point is 02:11:37 I don't think it's best for Bronnie. Let me be clear. I don't think it's best for Bronnie. I think Bronnie's gonna get all the skepticism, all this criticism. He's gonna become a running joke. They're gonna treat him like a make-a-wish kid It may not deserve it may not be best for Bronte, but somebody heat that LeBron is catching or Some of the rumor heat is that this is more about LeBron's dream in bronze. Yes that you're making your kid

Starting point is 02:12:00 It's like being a stage mom or a stage day It's like you're making your kid do some shit They don't want to do it's like if your kid had a mixtape that they didn't want to do but you was out there writing the lyrics and you put them on stage. And then I went and got him a deal knowing he didn't want to do that. I understand that thinking of it. And that's what it feels like. It feels like this is a kid who was groomed to be the next LeBron James. Great then let's shit on LeBron. Let's not shit on Bronny. Okay. If we're saying this then let's shit on LeBron James. Let's not shit on Bronnie. If we're saying this, then let's shit on LeBron James.

Starting point is 02:12:25 But don't say the kid can't rap. Which we won't, because we pussy. So Joe, at what age am I allowed to say your son, your mythical, hypothetical son, can't rap? Do you know the dad? Do you know me? I'm talking to you right now. But you know me.

Starting point is 02:12:38 Yes. So I can never say he can't rap. No. No, you can't say that. No, you can't. You can never say that. Not if you know him. No, you can't, boss.

Starting point is 02:12:44 If you know me, you can't say it on the internet.'t say that. No, you can't. You can never say that. Not if you know him, no, you can't. If you know me, you can't say on the internet. Okay, you can say it to me. Yeah, you can tell him that. Okay, that's fair. You can say it to me. Right. Joe. Because that means you're hypocritical

Starting point is 02:12:54 because you just gave Amber grace. That's fair, that's fair. But you know what, I don't know Lebron. I don't know Lebron. That's called a callback. Yeah. Oh shit. Hey.

Starting point is 02:13:02 He's awake. Big flip. Big flip. Big flip. That was good shit, that was good shit. The difference, I awake. Big flip. Big flip. Big flip. That was good shit. That was good shit. The difference, I don't know LeBron.

Starting point is 02:13:08 If I knew LeBron personally, I wouldn't do that. I could tell you wouldn't. That's what I'm saying. Just like I wouldn't do it if I weren't Chris. I know you in real life. I would text you like, yo. It's a shame. Because you would be such a great shop guest.

Starting point is 02:13:19 Oh yeah. I can see you in the barbership now. Yo, he'd be. Shopping it up. He'll kill it. With LeBron and them. He'll kill it. He'll kill it. He'll kill it. He'll kill it. He'll only do one episode of the shop like a year.

Starting point is 02:13:30 A year right? Yeah. I'll sit down with you one. We do have to let our guest leave. Our guest has a heart out. Yeah I got to handle some business. I actually got to record my show which I never promote but I have a show on YouTube now called Night School. It's on YouTube. it's on my channel,

Starting point is 02:13:45 so people can subscribe to Mark Lamar Hill on YouTube and watch the show every night. I cover the biggest topics, more political and heavy stuff, but it's also some light pop culture stuff. Okay. And be clear, I got some shit that I'm working on with Mark. It's just gonna take some years.

Starting point is 02:14:02 I gotta go back to school. All right, I'ma go, I'm gonna go. We gonna get shit rocking. Round of applause for Mark Lamont Hill. Appreciate y'all. Always a pleasure. Mark always a pleasure. One of my favorite people to come up here

Starting point is 02:14:14 and I love that when I call and ask, there's no questions asked. You just right here on the turnpike. I feel bad for the Sixers and be, oh the Jersey Sixers. We need to make a bet on the Sixers, Nick's thing. Anything you got, anything you want. Sixers are going to, what's the? Anything you want.

Starting point is 02:14:30 The Sixers are going to have, I need to clear bet. Sixers are going to have a better season than the Knicks. I'll take it. We're going to buy regular season playoffs. Joe's team. Oh, I thought you said regular season. Okay, regular season record. I'm willing to bet any bet.

Starting point is 02:14:40 Sixers will have a better regular season record than the Knicks. Oh, not at all. Well, we bettin'. Well, we bettin we bet it you call it No, cuz I'm thinking that it's gonna seem like most money shit Make it like five five thousand Great Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Oh, this is gonna be a great season. Wait, is that our only bet? No playoff bet? No, just stop!

Starting point is 02:15:07 Did you spend all your bet money on one bet? Oh, oh, oh, no. We, uh, we gonna post the playoffs on playoff. You spent all your bet money on the regular season? No, I can't call you a player. Oh, no, playoffs, we can double or triple it, quadruple, whatever you want. Oh!

Starting point is 02:15:20 Oh, shit! It's whatever you want. It's whatever you want, like, whatever you want. The guy talking to me. The guy talking you want. The guy talking to me. The guy talking to me. The guy talking to me. Look. Oh!

Starting point is 02:15:29 What? I just, we don't fuck you, Clapper, for. Thank you. You watch. You're excited about this bet. We're talking about real money now. Not just a little thousand dollars. Oh, shit.

Starting point is 02:15:39 Oh. That's a shot at somebody. No, no, no, no. That's a shot. That's a shot. And he's not here. Watch your mouth. Watch your mouth, little miss muffin. But a thousand dollars is real money. That's a shot at somebody. That's a shot. That's a shot. He's not here. Watch your mouth. Watch your mouth.

Starting point is 02:15:46 $1,000 is real money. That was one money. You were just acting like, oh, real money. Blah, blah, blah. Because that's when the hood Republicans show their face. Hey, let's bet. All right, how much? I ain't falling for that shit.

Starting point is 02:16:00 That's when niggas be like, let's keep it light. That nigga say, let's keep it light, five stacks. I'm used to that. Hey, let's keep it light. That nigga say let's keep it light, five stacks. I'm used to that. Hey, let's keep it light gentlemen, bet a little hundred dollars. No, there's not even worth paying a following. That's not worth paying attention to. Five stacks, it'll be worth talking shit. I already texted you talking shit.

Starting point is 02:16:15 What time is show come on? What time is show come on? He can do it over there. Oh man, thank you Mark Lamar Hill, all benches. And when the playoffs start, we should go to a game together. Oh for sure. I got season tickets for the Sixers, so you got to open on the court. I'm there because that's a Knicks building.

Starting point is 02:16:33 So Mark Lamont. Thank you so much. You did hear the Knicks fans in there. I was mad as shit. It went crazy. And B was too crying. I tried my hardest to deny that shit. I'm a Sixer fan.

Starting point is 02:16:41 I tried my hardest to deny that shit happened, bro. They went crazy. It's always been like that. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm. I tried my hardest to deny that shit. Crying like a bitch. I'm a Sixers fan. I tried my hardest to deny that that shit happened, bro. They went crazy. It's always been like that, but it was disrespectful for the playoffs.

Starting point is 02:16:52 Nah, the playoffs, they was booing the Sixers. That was disrespectful, bro. It's not just y'all building though for the Knicks. It's not just y'all building. DC, anywhere Northeast over here? Nick fans. Oh shit, Charlotte, them Charlotte games, it don't be nobody but Charlotte.

Starting point is 02:17:07 All Nick fans. All Nick fans. The fan base is strong, and it's strong, and we've been losing for 60 years. Yeah, and now that y'all won a couple playoff series, like two in the last 10 years, and shit like that. Yeah, it's cute, it's cute. Y'all had a good year. Y'all had a good year, man. I'm proud of you. I'm really, seriously proud of y'all.

Starting point is 02:17:25 Let me, what I will say to you is this. That's my man. But I'd rather it be that than the heartbreaking playoff exits that the sixers, oh, that Kawhi shot, oh, it's bouncing. It's bouncing. That's true. It's true. Look.

Starting point is 02:17:44 Like y'all have had some. But we do. That one hurt, that one hurt. That one hurt. That four bounces hurt. Why are you a fan of niggas that paid Tobias Harris over Jimmy Butler? That is an urban legend, that is not what the fuck happened. I know, I'm telling you as a fact, that's not what happened.

Starting point is 02:17:58 What happened, what really happened, because they had the money to pay all four of them at the time. And what happened was, Jimmy Butler did not want to stay. He didn't want to be coached by Brett Brown. He did not want to play with Ben Simmons. And so he basically was saying, y'all got to do, make some changes with this team.

Starting point is 02:18:11 And so ultimately he, he, he walked. He was always definitely right. They got to fire Brett Brown anyway. They got rid of coach. And train Ben Simmons anyway, but that's what it was. It wasn't Jimmy, him. Nobody would choose Jimmy. I love Tobias Harris, but just apples to apples.

Starting point is 02:18:23 At that moment, Jimmy Butler would have been the choice even that small four But but they didn't they didn't they didn't want to do the other things he wanted to happen And if you watch before he did that they take took the bias over me clip that goes viral if you watch his interviewer With JJ Reddick a year before he actually breaks down what happened how we went in there and asked for changes And they said no, but that that that's the reason and that those four would have won a championship I do believe what should y'all made y'all got James Harden right we got Paul George now that's what man's exactly that's what matters now I know James Hart y'all y'all are the Philly Clippers yeah and y'all got like eight they got eight role players they got like ten

Starting point is 02:18:59 McCowell bridges exactly like they suddenly are like a bomb squad you got a bunch of guys that could be ten and six we beat y'all with three of them That's fine. We reach out with three role players. So now we only got five more great So now and we just added an elite player and you can't play all role players. Regular seasonally That's Wait and contract here elite Paul George's playoff numbers actually strong. It's just it's again It's one of urban legends that he don't have strong playoff numbers. Well, no, we watched Dame kill him. Well, we watched Dame kill everybody.

Starting point is 02:19:27 Yeah, but not with, not with everybody being a primary defender while he's 10 feet behind the three point line in the deciding closeout game. I mean, look, he's one of the greatest of all time. I hope Paul George works out for you guys. Yeah, I do. And I hope you all stay healthy. I hope you all don't make any bad management decisions. Well, we beat y'all unhealthy.

Starting point is 02:19:50 So we were unhealthy and B was, I mean, he was on one leg. He was out there. Yeah, and he broke Mitch leg We're gonna be fine. We're gonna be fine. It's the Knicks. The Knicks you should be worried I love that you'll be late for your show to sit here and talk about this. I know I know We love you,. Thank you for joining. My man, that's my man right there. We'll sprinkle some silence out there. So I'm going to wait until the door closes. So we can really get. No, because you are.

Starting point is 02:20:19 Sit your ass back down. You got to do it. I can't do it. He ready. Good. I'm gonna ask back down. You gotta do it, I can't do it. He ready. Good. You remember Omani? Hey, you good?

Starting point is 02:20:36 Chana, look that way now. I did several times. You good, Chana? Yes. He was very, very enthused when he was up here. Hang on to every word. You were participating. Everything he was going to say.

Starting point is 02:20:48 Yeah, mad words. Co-signed to him and all that. You even jumped on me to be on his side. No, it was just conversation, friendly conversation. You out of line. Social butterflies. These social butterflies, I tell you. What else is not important? And I don't even have my phone now.

Starting point is 02:21:10 All right, I have my phone. What else is important, not important? What Cardi do with spaces? Dis I spice for 45 minutes. Oh, she went on about it. No, she did not say her name. She will never say I spice his name. Why would Cardi B say Ice Spice's name?

Starting point is 02:21:27 Who cares what Pitchfork said about her album? Pitchfork tried it. Hey, Pitchfork, come on, man. We got ears. Pitchfork is the most inconsistent reviews I think I've ever read in my life. Pitchfork gave Ice Spice's album the highest rating. 7.6.

Starting point is 02:21:41 But it wasn't the highest. Someone posted it as the highest rated female album from them this year, but rap was higher. I don't know if anybody else was, but rap was rhapsody. Rhapsody, yeah, shout out to rap. Shout out to rhapsody. So, there. What she said in space.

Starting point is 02:21:59 I got more money than you bitches. The nerve of you bitches trying to bring up real estate. Y'all must got me fucked up. The nerve of you bitches trying to bring up real estate. You almost got me fucked up. The nerve of you bitches talking singles. My Flops is better than y'all best records. They perform better. You have to check the charts, check the stats, check the numbers, check anything that you want to check.

Starting point is 02:22:15 I'm better than you bitches. Fuck is wrong with you bitches. Oh, OK. I like that. I like that energy, too. I like that. And I do believe that Cardi flops too well. Yeah, yeah. And I like a few of them chips, but I can't say that up here because people

Starting point is 02:22:35 gonna think that I'm only saying it because she bullied me into liking her. If you speak on me, you speak positive or and nothing else. Did y'all see this shit, Ka'Quavo redoing some Lenny Kravitz shit? Yeah. Did y'all see that? Yeah. You hype?

Starting point is 02:22:51 No. No. OK. Nope. Nope. Salute. Although you never know. I'm good.

Starting point is 02:23:01 I didn't like the flip. I mean, I will listen to the whole record maybe you know. Maybe in the context of the album. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta hear it. It's all about the synchronization. It's a whole... So meaning he's gonna be singing. Well he's saying sort of...

Starting point is 02:23:13 Like rock music. Oh I don't know if he's doing all that. I think it's a sample flip. Yeah. Okay. Got it. And you know he's heavily auto-tuned so it's like singing. Got it. You about to play it? No.

Starting point is 02:23:24 No. Because I want to get to Julio Fulio Killers being caught. Okay. Okay. Caught them. Two of them is on the run. I think one of them is currently, I don't know if they caught him yet. Yeah they caught all them niggas.

Starting point is 02:23:36 They caught all five of them. They caught all five? Okay. One of them was holding himself hostage. Two was still on the move and I read that they got the other two if I'm wrong fact check it yourself one of them was I read holding himself hostage at gunpoint mm-hmm they don't they don't let you self transition like that they don't

Starting point is 02:23:57 they don't do that nigga they trying to get you by any means but yeah they caught them they caught the young lady the young lady you know that was a part of it. She set Julio Fulio up. Man, that shit was in 4K, 8K. I don't know what camera they had. Bad camera angles. But they filmed that shit of capturing these criminals.

Starting point is 02:24:15 Red cameras, too. Like that shit was a movie, Pauks. It was crazy. It was crazy. And I knew Tampa wasn't going to allow shit like that. Like, you could do that shit in Jacksonville, but not Tampa, Florida. I'm not saying there's no killers over there.

Starting point is 02:24:30 I'm just saying like Tampa, like there was- Certain areas they just not gonna play that shit. They was gonna make an example. When my man went up there in the press conference, he was like, yo, we letting this be a message to all of y'all, don't come up here with it. That's basically what he said. That's almost like that killing that took place

Starting point is 02:24:46 in Chicago on the Gold Coast. Like the feds swept in like, no, no, no, no, no, no. We know what y'all do up there. Y'all not gonna come over here. It's just certain areas where they not playing. And they came down fast. These niggas is 18 ice. Yeah, it's crazy.

Starting point is 02:25:02 They just getting out of high school, graduating or not graduating. Like they just, you know what I'm saying? And they whole life, I was watching a young lady when she walked in the rain, I just, I felt bad. Not just like damn girl, you threw your whole life away. You threw your whole life away just to be down with bullshit or to participate in a crime.

Starting point is 02:25:21 And it's crazy. You said they said those dudes that they followed him the whole night? Mm-hmm. Yeah. They bounced with him from spot to spot? From spot to spot. Mm-hmm. And they said that she, yeah, she set him up and shit like that,

Starting point is 02:25:31 and they showed even, you know, I was watching, you know, Ak, you know, he was watching the actual video of when the incident happened. What the fuck, they got cameras by cars, I don't, they got cameras everywhere. They got cameras everywhere. They got a fucking car camera that caught how, I don't know if it was by a tree or not, but that shit was clear as day where you could see

Starting point is 02:25:54 the bullets flying out the gun. It was crazy. I saw the ingredients that make up raindrops. Honestly, that rain was on the hit in the car. It was like, dude. Microscope. He's right. That rain was like, dude, I was like, hidden the cash. It's like a microscope. That rain was like, dude I was like, damn I never seen rain like that before. That that shit was some Steven Spielberg type of camera.

Starting point is 02:26:14 Yeah. Y'all, what do I want to say to y'all out there? I don't really want to say nothing to killers. I don't. But if you're gonna kill, y'all should stop doing it from cars that lead back to killers. I don't. But if you're gonna kill, y'all should stop doing it from cars that lead back to you. And can I add to that? Please. Maybe stop taking your phones with you everywhere you go. That's a great idea. I didn't even think of that one. When y'all go kill and rest in peace, Julio, because watching, watching how they lined him, it hurts me to watch

Starting point is 02:26:51 how some people get lined when it's like nothing you could do. I watch a lot of them fucking Mexican mafia YouTube clips where Mexican niggas just outside smoking a cigar, some shit, and niggas pull up on us, like 30 of them niggas. That's right, that's right. They running, so it's bad. But I'm gonna have five or four people in the dark,

Starting point is 02:27:10 hoodies from every angle, tracking the car, now we gonna shoot you here, we gonna shoot you as you pass. So when you try to drive that way, we got somebody waiting for you up there. Yeah man, that's sad. I don't think anybody deserves to go that way. Rest in peace, Triple X, while I'm here, just because.

Starting point is 02:27:24 Yes, yes. Way too. Way too many people we lose off of just senseless violence. Senseless violence. Now I agree. Like I said, I don't hear you. And then when it's like four niggas. Yeah, they was spaced out. When it's like four people. They were spaced out.

Starting point is 02:27:41 Like I think about Pop Smoke. Oh, that hurts. Yo, when I think about Pop, that hurts. That hurts as well. All that shit hurts. Man just, you know, he was just getting it to himself and just to lose his life like that. And he didn't even, he wasn't even out here moving.

Starting point is 02:27:59 I mean, you know, he beat the nigga up that fought him when he was younger. But he wasn't, not out there. I mean, he wasn't out in Cali moving crazy. I was about pop. I'm sorry. Yeah No, I'm talking about pop. He wasn't out there moving crazy man. And and and look at that a robbery going wrong or gone bad That pops most you heard bro. Yeah, even though you listen to his music and shout the fifth of you know It just like he ain't deserve that nobody listen to his music and shout out the fifth of, it's just like, he ain't deserve that.

Starting point is 02:28:24 Nobody deserves it. That's how I feel when I think about Dolph's death. Like you at the spot getting your mom some cookies? And then when you see, when you see like, when they listed all the places he was hit, and how many rounds was fired, it was like, the shit that these niggas is playing with

Starting point is 02:28:41 out here in the streets today is ridiculous. Nasty. It's military grade. I saw you talking about, no Flip, you said, like they just out of high school, I saw a video, I guess it was Instagram or Twitter or something. It was a group of high school kids,

Starting point is 02:28:57 every bit of 15, 16 years old, in a circle, like, just circled together. Showing guns. It was like, yo, heat check, who got it on them? And they all just, long ass extended clips on them. I got mine, you know I got mine, you know I got mine. It's like these kids, bro. We're doomed as a society.

Starting point is 02:29:16 Sorry to say. Scary, scary. Because a lot of niggas is afraid to govern their own neighborhoods. You know, the OGs out here putting the batteries, some of the OGs, not all, putting the batteries in these young niggas' backs. And the OGs, some of the OGs are trying to live

Starting point is 02:29:30 their life over again. Through the young ones. I miss the times where there was a nigga that was respected or a person that was respected that came in and governed the neighborhood and made sure this don't go down, you don't do it like this. And it's just crazy.

Starting point is 02:29:44 Nigga, 13, 12 year olds, 14 year olds with hammers. It's fucking fucked up. So. I agree. Rest in peace to all the rappers we lost. Yes. I got a quick part of this show from Demetrius. That's our guy, man.

Starting point is 02:30:02 What's up, bro? He do begin a lot of shit off. Yes, he do. I really don't want to end this friendship, but I do have serious questions that I need answered. Backstory. I started a media network with the hopes of creating social media content for companies. I don't know if you all remember, but we talked about me getting a friend to quit his, I do

Starting point is 02:30:20 remember that. To quit this career job to join me as a creator. Long story less long, he quit. Oh good. We talked about companies to pursue mostly car dealerships and how to land their business. I don't hear from him for a couple of days, but when I do, he calls excited. Tells me he has a new job working for a dealership,

Starting point is 02:30:41 handling their social medias. I feel like I've been cut out of a business deal that I created. I just need advice on how to handle this, or am I wrong? I don't think he's wrong. I don't think you're wrong. But I feel like you've got to kind of eat this one. What are you going to do?

Starting point is 02:31:01 Yeah, you basically gave your friend the idea. He stole it, and that's it. It's filed. It's super foul. Yeah, it's foul, but yeah. And he said he don't want to lose a friend? Then he starts with, I don't want to lose this friend, right? No, he said, no, he wants to end that shit.

Starting point is 02:31:14 Oh no, he don't want to end it. I really don't want to end this friendship, but. Yeah, so. The but means he wants that. Well, you got... Damn. That's tough. That's tough. I would have... I don't think the friend is wrong. The friend? Well, you get... Damn. That's tough. That's tough. I don't think the friend is wrong. The friend? I don't think the friend is wrong.

Starting point is 02:31:31 Why not? Because he put him on that... He didn't necessarily put him on. The first thing the friend told him was, I don't want to leave my job. Okay. Okay, but then he does? Yeah, you think he did it. No, but now he does. You convinced him to. Okay. So it means you bought into the vision. But now he does. You convinced him to. OK.

Starting point is 02:31:45 So it means you bought into the vision. That's not what it means. So why'd you leave your job? Huh? Why'd you leave your job? Who knows? But it doesn't mean that I'm buying into your vision. It really looks like he bought into the vision

Starting point is 02:31:57 because he did the exact same thing that he suggested that they do as business partners. But maybe his friend couldn't sustain that. Yeah, that means that he didn friend couldn't sustain that. Yeah, maybe. That means that he didn't buy into his vision. Yeah. Man, that shit seem like some cutthroat snake shit. No, but hold on, but maybe he couldn't,

Starting point is 02:32:13 his friend, this nigga couldn't pay him. Because I left my, I didn't want to leave my job, I left my job. You sitting there having these conversations about what can happen or what, no I need it now, nigga. So I'm gonna take what you tell me or take whatever I did that we came up with and I'm gonna go apply somewhere else and then I let you know, but he'd let him know.

Starting point is 02:32:34 No, you let him know afterwards. If you can't pay me or if I'm quitting my job, because that is a decision you make before you quit your job, how am I gonna sustain if I quit this job? So you made that decision, whatever reason, whatever you felt comfortable doing it, you quit your job. How am I gonna sustain if I quit this job? So you made that decision, whatever reason, whatever you felt comfortable doing it, you quit the job. Now you talking to your man, your man taking

Starting point is 02:32:50 a long time to pay you or something. Hey bro, I gotta do something. What you want? No, and then he said, I didn't hear from him for like a couple of days. Exactly, so you go. So the duration of time is apparently not that long. Niggas need money, man.

Starting point is 02:33:00 No, I understand, but. You know how many times niggas went to go do the exact thing that they fucking fought with me Toof and nail about like I also been in plenty creative circles and situations with business involved where just a million ideas are getting thrown at the wall and Not to say that was the case here We don't really know but this could have been one of many ideas that was thrown at the wall as far as targeting car dealership Specifically mm-hmm, and he just happened to maybe start pursuing it and found

Starting point is 02:33:27 a fucking lane for himself. Hold on. And to add to that, the good idea don't die because your friend took a job. That's true, too. Whatever you're doing right now with this friendship emotional shit, all of that's a distraction from what he really needed to be doing, which is you had a good idea.

Starting point is 02:33:44 It's still a good idea, your friend in that car dealership might not execute it properly, go do it the right way. Oh no, that's a separate combo. But if this is really your friend and you made him quit his job, and you had a good idea and he may not have wanted to do it with you, and he went and got a lick off of the idea, now does he owe you something or a conversation or money or equity or something?

Starting point is 02:34:02 Who knows, that's a different talk. I just meant the conversation. But to be mad at your friend, nah nigga, you want to go to look at that? Also, nothing, nothing. There could be a world in which the friend that got hired by the dealership could bring him in as a contractor to do some work with him.

Starting point is 02:34:15 Oh, that's cool. We talking about down the line shit. In the moment right now, we had a plan. Yo, we're going to target car dealerships to bring business to bring potential business to our business that we have here. Cool. You cut me out, you haven't spoken in a couple days

Starting point is 02:34:33 and then pop up and say, yeah, I got a job at the dealership doing exactly what we were doing. That's snake shit. I don't care how y'all look at that, that's snake. I don't see how y'all don't see that as snake. Especially when he said, yo, I ain't even, dude, I ain't even talked to dude for a couple days, that's Snake. I don't see how y'all don't see that as Snake. Especially when he said, yo, I ain't even,

Starting point is 02:34:46 I ain't even talked to dude for a couple days and he popped up, yo dog, guess what? I got a job at a dealership. I took your advice and went and solicited a dealership, but instead of bringing it back for the company that we're working together, I went and got a direct job with him. I think that taking everything as Snake

Starting point is 02:34:59 and eliminating friendships that potentially could be valuable is, cut your nose and spit in your face. I'm not saying in the friendship is I'm with but I'm not Friendship I'm just saying it is snake shit. They need a conversation if my friend if it if but we start this with friendship If you're my friend, I'm going to benefit of the doubt before I get to snake Sometimes things just get lost in translation or not not enough communication is had or your friend just has a really different POV than you. You remember Johnny?

Starting point is 02:35:28 Yeah, of course. Johnny, my man. Me and Johnny shot mad ideas back and forth. A bunch of them, some of them was good. But he had a lot of his own ideas too. Let me not make it sound like it was just me coming up. We came up with things a lot. He came up with an idea on his own

Starting point is 02:35:53 after we were kind of brainstorming together. He didn't tell me about this idea, but what he did in my opinion from my outside view of it was everybody that he had met and became fly with from my relationship that he's just been out for, let's say we've been out for the last three years, he doubled back to all of these people with his business idea that he came up with. In Johnny's head, there was absolutely nothing wrong

Starting point is 02:36:25 with that, and maybe he was gonna come pay me or something. For me, that looked absolutely nuts. It was some snakey, conniving shit. But before I listened to my brain, I spoke to him, and he just hit with different upbringing. He didn't really. He didn't see nothing wrong with that, right? He didn't see that at all.

Starting point is 02:36:44 So I'm just saying sometimes a conversation Yes, we'll just bring together two different points of view I do think there needs to be a conversation between the two of them now I'll give do but now from that conversation if he that's saying something that you vibing with I'm dead now Well, hold on. I will give do the friend in this um question of benefit of the doubt Because he said when he did speak to him, he was mad excited with the news. So it's like, he might not see that he did

Starting point is 02:37:09 something wrong here, because if so, I'm not calling you mad excited with the news. Yo dog, guess what, guess what? I just got a job. I'm avoiding you. Yeah, I'm not even gonna talk to you. Or if you catch me and say, yo, where you been? What the hell is up?

Starting point is 02:37:22 You know what I'm saying? And if he lost a job or left a job and got a new job, it's nothing like that new job excitement. Like your friend's happiness in that moment, respectfully, is not about you or whatever talk we had. I got a new gig. Yeah, it might be doing some of the shit that you asked me to do, but I got a gig.

Starting point is 02:37:40 This guy sound like he on some entrepreneurship too. The friend just sound like he gonna work in a company. Yeah. Which is what he said in the original question. Which is different. Everybody ain't entrepreneurs. That's true too. See now, Ry Guy, funny Johnny and Ry Guy

Starting point is 02:37:57 in the same little segment here, but Ry Guy was corporate and him and I did a lot of think tanks. And I was in the house talking all this entrepreneurial type shit. Ry guy was of that same mind, but he worked for a company. What he did was he worked for a company with ancient dinosaurs running it.

Starting point is 02:38:15 And what he did was took all of that entrepreneurial, digital, new age thinking to his corporate job. And increase his value to them. Yeah, and introduce new ways that the company can make money, cause y'all not even thinking on this entrepreneurial what's going on out here. And it worked for him, that nigga shot up. Yeah he did.

Starting point is 02:38:35 Zoomed up the ladder, got married, we ain't seen him since. Nope. Well he stopped by here that one time. Yeah he did. But, yeah it is, so that's, my example is kind of what could happen here. Yes, you have a gig with a company doing the same thing that you said, Yeah, so that's my example is kind of what could happen here. Yes You have a gig with a company doing the same thing that you said

Starting point is 02:38:48 But it might not be done the same and it might not fucking overlapping I've been part of the think tanks that have led to nine figure fucking deals for people and Maybe I got a cut maybe I didn't in some cases. I don't I don't take that shit personally I'm like, oh shit, that's dope but a think tank is different if you find a way to bring me on please a think tank is different than I tell you parks leave

Starting point is 02:39:11 here we're gonna do this together and right now our job is to solicit and then you go out and take a job doing what we what our business is set to do that's a little bit different than we didn't think tank this. That's not just us throwing ideas and shit. Gotta hear both sides. No, no, no. Yo, Demetrius, my advice. And I still put this under think tank.

Starting point is 02:39:32 Look, Demetrius. I do. My advice to you is, and you start off by saying you don't wanna lose a friendship. So that tells me what your intentions are. Have a conversation with your mans because you might, like Joe said, you might get a different POV from it and he might not have been trying to snake you. Sure.

Starting point is 02:39:48 Yeah. He just might not be cut for the entrepreneurial shit and some people just really want to work a job. I have a question for the room. Is it hard for women 40 and up to make new friends? You asking a bunch of men? Yeah, I'm asking, yeah. I don't know.

Starting point is 02:40:07 Maybe. Okay, I have a home girl, real quick. Her name is Lucy. Fly, bad. Hey Lucy. And a fish shoe. And in her spare time, she's making big meals for herself. And she's coloring.

Starting point is 02:40:26 And I'm like, all right, you don't got no friends, you don't want to go out, what you doing? I was talking on the phone. She's coloring, yeah, in 2024, coloring. There's adult coloring books. Yeah, adult coloring books. I guess, I guess. And I felt bad about it.

Starting point is 02:40:37 She painting or coloring? Coloring crayons, Crayola. Yo, they got adult coloring books. Like, Portie? Some of them are, yes. So, in my mind, I tell her how, I'm like, dang, like, you fire. Go out there and make a friend or a friend.

Starting point is 02:40:51 I feel a little bad for her, so I wanna start a, I ask my friends, because I do wanna start a group to bring women, 40 and older people, so they can make friends, like I think. That's not for her, Pox, because I feel bad for her. You taking, you making these big ass meals, nigga. Fucking turkey, macaroni and cheese. Who the fuck is eating that with you?

Starting point is 02:41:10 You look stupid. Buy yourself, and I love her, that's my girl. You look stupid. You know what, some people value. My neighbors eat. Look, look. Some people value, some people. The neighbors, the neighbors.

Starting point is 02:41:21 I'm sorry, man, I know you'll get me, man. I know, I'm sorry, I love her. Some people value inner peace and I don't need no people around me. Some people are very comfortable with that. Is she new to the area or something? She's not new to the area, she's just like one of those people, I don't know.

Starting point is 02:41:35 She's not comfortable with sound like she is. Has she said something to you about the lack, about having a lack of friendship? I was on the phone with her and she has a very crazy past, but I was on the phone with her, she's, you know, she has a very crazy past, but I was on the phone with her, she's working, she's doing her thing, but I'm like, I saw a picture of her meal.

Starting point is 02:41:49 I was like, well, you ate that way, that shit's fire. And I remember you can cook good by myself. Nigga, why you making all that food for? Nigga, you got some friends. That's what she wants to eat. Maybe she's just improving her culinary skills. Oh, that's what she had a taste for. I'm Mel Lamont Hill.

Starting point is 02:42:04 Like, come on, man. I'm dead ass, she could've just had a taste for. I'm Mel Lamont Hill. Like, come on, man. I'm dead ass. She could've just had a taste for that. Okay, I got you. I just wanna, I just wanna bring a group of people together. I don't see nothing wrong with that. To introduce, I think it's hard sometimes when you get a certain age to go outside and meet people.

Starting point is 02:42:17 I think we became so fixated on the internet and these phones. Go outside, I told her. Go, go, go. I don't disagree with those points. Skate, nigga, you're a skater, skate. They got all them little dart leagues and adult basketball and softball and all that shit.

Starting point is 02:42:29 Right clubs. Walk clubs. My neighbors eat the food, girl. That's crazy, I can't believe that shit good. That's a nice neighbor. Can you imagine? Dropping off a whole feast. Oh, look at me, I'm getting a sleeper. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 02:42:48 I told you I'm here for a good time, not a long time. I have that Friday, why not? Baddest in the room. I'm too shotty, what am I supposed to do? When your body's calling Love and that type of view Anytime to play with something so special Know that I'll be fooled That's too fat, know just what to do with it Control it I'm in the middle of the party But all I'm thinking about is you

Starting point is 02:43:41 A hundred million shorties But you make it easy to choose How many men wish they could wake up right next to you? Oh baby bring it closer, I know just what to do You're the baddest in the room, the baddest in the room The way that you move, I'm focused on you Your bad is in the roof I'm five shots in right now and all I see is you Work it, work it, work it, work it, baby

Starting point is 02:44:18 I know it's been a while for you, baby Know you won't give it up if it ain't me, if it ain't me You know that we locked in Now your body is mine girl forever Don't take it from me, you know better Won't compare to you girl, I'll never I'm in the middle of the party But all I'm thinking about is you

Starting point is 02:44:38 A hundred million shorties But you make it easy to choose How many men wish they'd come with a right next to you Oh baby bring it closer, I know just what to do You're the baddest in the room, the baddest in the room The way that you move, and focused on you, oh Baddest in the room I'm focused on you right now And all I see is you

Starting point is 02:45:13 Baddest in the room Baddest in the room That is Friday with Baddest in the room Available in your phone. All right, nigga, shut up now. Available. That was Friday, Baddest in the Room, available on your phone and in DSPs right now.

Starting point is 02:45:36 Shout out to Friday. All right, I'm gonna go up to Toronto and I'm gonna play Cell 245 this is Tory Lanez the second of the prison tapes songs that he released I've been rollin' with some shots, tryna dip them out the whip When we get to Benin, call this nigga, spin around that bitch All my dollars rich, took a lot to get him out the sticks Got this one bitch fuckin' up my tribe house Do it like her stepmama, hit center to her dine house

Starting point is 02:46:18 I even had to stake a couple niggas, but my plan was to get rich Shootouts gave me PTSD, that's the damage that it did, I'm talkin' Hammers at the crib, I'm talkin' Hammers at the crib, I'm talkin' Hammers at my grandma's house, she in the kitchen cookin' Found the hammers in the condos, real stifled They can't stun us when we pull up, they can't manage We be duckin', paparazzi in all the camps Yeah, I'm talkin', hoppin' out in cars that don't come out the next year

Starting point is 02:46:37 That Pagani so fast, it shouldn't be another year We the strappers of the year, here we gon' need another cheer Range, peach, color pair,, sing a piece, start a steer And I think she like the heart of mommy Change this and got a boogie, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah But when she pull a lighter plug, she gon' drop it off on me It's only scary hours when she pull a B like What's up with real deal money?

Starting point is 02:46:58 Cash, gun, and mustache, L-O-V-E, tatted over my eyes Baby, you know this shit is real when you fuckin' with me I keep that fucker chill when you fuckin' with me I keep that fucker fuckin' chill when you fuckin' with me Bitch, I'm for real, I'm for real Real deal money, cash, gun, and mustache I love VE, tight it over my eyes, baby You know this shit is real when you fuckin' with me I keep that fucker fuckin' chill when you fuckin' with me Bitch, I'm for real

Starting point is 02:47:23 Bitch, I'm for real Bitch I'm for real Bitch I'm for real Kept a static in the attic And I was trapped into the attic Couldn't find my soul when I was traveling Couldn't cope this shit was tragic I was out there doing the most, you know that most My nigga was sad if you come close My niggas are grabbing this on my soul My niggas gon' have it, I swear We be spending cash, we barely dip off in this game All you hair in this room, niggas come through have it, I swear We be spending cash, we barely dip off in this game All you heritants, boom, niggas come through spittin' off in that lamp

Starting point is 02:47:47 Twenty-nine, I on the pride of the man, I became who I am I always said I have everything I got right now, hey, thirty niggas But this shit don't stop, I want some houses, I want some blocks I want some builders and some shops, I need equity in everything Bitches come through spinning round my finger like a wedding ring Devil knocking at my door, trying not to let him in I be feeling so conflicted, clock off in my letterman Got it for protection from my opps, no, I can't let him in

Starting point is 02:48:09 I'ma beat my case, bitch, I ain't worryin' bout no settlement Truly, I'm a gentleman, let the Lord settle it Cause I be up like that skin for instance Know that they can't rob me, but I can't give them no chances We was flippin' dope with all our old neighborly fences Bitch, I'm in that G.O.A.P.S. like Luigi in the fences Bitch, I'm in that ghost like Luigi in a mansion Yeah, I'm talkin' real deal money, cash gun in my stash I love VE tatted over my eyes, baby

Starting point is 02:48:30 You know this shit is real when you fuckin' with me I keep that buck a-fuckin' chill when you fuckin' with me Let's talk for real Talkin' real deal money, cash gun in my stash I love VE tatted over my eyes, baby You know this shit is real when you fuckin' with me I keep that buck a-fuckin' real when you fuckin' with me And again that was Tory Lanez, Cell 245, the second song he released off of Prison Tapes. Okay I'm going to Brooklyn, this is your old Drew, I think I love her.

Starting point is 02:49:20 Say yo, I can't get enough of her Never be another the most important woman right next to my mother just bought a magazine scene I'm on the cover. I think I love her. I think I love her bro, and you know love is a motherfucker I say this at the risk of sounding like a sucker won't let it go to waste place nothing to bother I think I love her. I think I love her bro Can't even front, she been on my mind all day I love her fam, give a damn what y'all say Voices silk, smooth as oil of old age Little bad chick, go like Roy Leray Petite, but she know how to throw that little butt Not thinking an old mill, but I still cut Half my heart broke before, but it healed up No puppy love, this the real stuff, I can't

Starting point is 02:50:05 get enough of her Never be another, the most important woman Right next to my mother, just bought a magazine Seen her on the cover, I said, I think I love her I think I love her bro, and you know love is a motherfucker I say this at the risk of sounding like the sucker Won't let it go to waste, place nothing above her I think I love her, I think I love her bro Got me on some beatle shit like yesterday You know her resume, looks like Tessamay

Starting point is 02:50:34 No not to bring that mess away To step to her you gotta be bold, no Desiree Gotta muster some shit, can't be a buster She only used to mess with killers, scammers and hustlers Who came from spas, that's a lot rougher, got me working out tryna get tougher I can't get enough of her, never be another The most important woman right next to my mother Just bought a magazine, seen her on the cover

Starting point is 02:50:57 I think I love her, I think I love her bro And you know love is a motherfucker I say this at the risk of sounding like a sucker Won't let it go to waste, waste nothing to bother I think I love her, I think I love her bro From a grill to her waist and hips The way it feel when I taste them lips Different from all my relationships

Starting point is 02:51:19 All I see is us taking flicks, lots of vacation trips And when it's cold weather, we gon' rock the matching leathers And be gold getters with our rap endeavors I think I love her by your old Drew. It kind of reminded me of the melodies because he's rapping about falling in love with a chick on a magazine cover. Hey. All right. So shout out to Melodies too. Shout out to the Melodies. Okay, mine is Danger Mouse and Black Thought, No Gold Teeth.

Starting point is 02:51:58 Let's go. Something's fire. Let's hope it's fire. With this money on the line, never make the bag rave I just add weight to the bag until the bag rave That holy swag make the cash get the gas face In the first place, I got no motherfuckin' business comin' in last place My birthplace taught me not to stop Got more advanced than my classmates I came into the game on a fast rate And I gang gang like Billy Baffey

Starting point is 02:52:40 The protagonist and I narrate In the same slang that Billy has, I can't stop If I don't work then I won't eat Time keeps running like a river, it don't cease In the mind of a super nigga, there's no peace Can't stop running like a duck of a police stop Cooley how they tryna do me like Cochise The flow so obese, it's bringing us slowly I keep a crowd satisfied, bringing up cohease I gratify, grinning, blink, blingin', no gold teeth Yo, stop, you know the cameras is go see My hammers ain't for brandishing, the can is his homie

Starting point is 02:53:10 Please, you ain't fuckin' with no amateurs, homie Philly ain't known for cheats, they sandwiches only Stop, yo, I'm at the top with it slowly I got everybody lean muggin' like Nick Nolte But nah, I won't stop, hold up, won't retire I am my own supplier, selling goods to the buyer The torch to the eye of the storm, it's on fire The data translator, each journal chart higher

Starting point is 02:53:31 They repressed to my IG, I replied, denied Tell me I'm in the top three, they ain't never lied Stop fooling at breaking, the parents with a ride The cause two to five, the door suicide Tested and thought it'd be your suicide No matter which corner of the globe you reside 2-1-5, dumb shit inside When it comes to the job, getting done, what am I?

Starting point is 02:53:52 The God on the microphone, praise the Lord Anybody disagree with me, then rage and swore I'm Agent Orange, poisonous, amazing pawns And the band keeps raging on Listen to me, I won't, don't stop No, I don't quit, yup, Don't stop, no, I don't quit I don't stop, no, I don't quit Nah

Starting point is 02:54:12 That is No Gold Teeth by Danger Mouse and Black Thought That album's phenomenal, I gotta go back to that Where'd you get that from? She tapped my phone That ain't a male record, where'd you get that from? I have the album type my phone. That's all right, that ain't a male record. Where you get that from, yo? I have the album in my phone. All right. I do have like a little collection of.

Starting point is 02:54:29 Little bit? Assorted hip hop records. Assorted hip hop records, yes. I'm a big fan of MF Doom. Wow, okay. Mm-hmm. Hey, let me shut up. Yeah, our bad, our bad.

Starting point is 02:54:40 That was my shit. Hi. And rest in peace. Rest in peace. Yeah, come on, come on. What? You look like you wanna stir up some shit. Hi. And rest in peace. Rest in peace. Yeah, come on. Come on. What? You look like you want to stir up some shit. What?

Starting point is 02:54:49 With you. What? What? What? What? What's the problem with you? Why? Because like-

Starting point is 02:54:53 Can't we just have a conflict free day one fucking time? I know. Yes. No, I know I'm asking a lot, but- It's- Come on. What happened? It's enough that our bond has been severed by socks.

Starting point is 02:55:05 But we've repaired that bond. We've repaired the bond. And it's enough that I get attacked constantly on your behalf. Why? What's disheartening is watching how hard you go and how great you intertwine with Mark Lamont Hill. Are you jealous? I'm a little just, I'm a little jealous. I'm a little jealous.

Starting point is 02:55:27 I'm a little, I learned more words. He learned a lot of words. And you know, it's supposed to be male and flip, or always flipping male. Always flipping male. You just flipped him. You was like, nigga, you be having your niggas back.

Starting point is 02:55:39 I know all the shots that I have to take that. Cause you know, I don't know, male. I don't know. Listen. I don't know. Listen. Do you think that when somebody is intellectually powerful, does that sort of spike your interest when they're intellectual, intellects? Yeah, that's fair to say, but not necessarily

Starting point is 02:56:02 in this particular circumstance. OK, and not nothing salacious. I'm just talking about that in general. Yeah, no, not at all. I mean, as fondly as Joe regards Mark, same with me. Same with, I'm sure, everybody in the room. But like, I mean, I'm- I do too.

Starting point is 02:56:14 Yes. But when I talk to you, you tune me out after five seconds. No, not- You tune me out. You gotta read some books and learn some, expand your vocabulary. That's all it is. Mel's an intellectual, so she likes to converse with other intellectuals.

Starting point is 02:56:26 So you gotta become an intellectual. Nigga, fuck that. Fuck that. Yeah, I know. And also, you wanna entertain the guests. You wanna make them feel welcome. You wanna interact with them. Flip don't wanna hear none of that shit.

Starting point is 02:56:42 You're always making people feel welcome. But you don't make the people that's welcome here feel welcome. Me? How do I have managed to do that all by my lonesome? Well, because we love you. OK. And I feel unwelcome a lot of times

Starting point is 02:56:53 when I'm talking to you in my heart. Right now, my heart is broke. It's broken. I'm so sorry. Parks is the only one that held me down up here. Aw. That's true. Not my intention.

Starting point is 02:57:05 I hope them sentiments is valid. Aw. Aw, let's see, let's see, let's see. Eh, eh, eh, eh, eh. Oh, that was me. Sleep is done, right? Yeah. But I do, before we end, want to give the specialist of shout outs

Starting point is 02:57:27 to one of my favorite BMs, Cynthia Santana. I do. Sen announced that she is pregnant and engaged. Oh wow. Give it up. Come on, give it up. Absolutely. Give it up. Congratulations sir. Give it up. Give it up. Don't hate. Don't hate.

Starting point is 02:57:48 Congratulations to Sintana and dude, I won't say I'll leave that for y'all. I'll leave that for y'all to do your Googles, but couldn't be happier for them both. Here we go. Salute. Look at y'all, look stupid in the face. On Patreon, I'm having some fun with this. Salute. Look at y'all, look at y'all stupid in the face. On Patreon, I'm having some fun with this. Um, did y'all hear about the new kickoff rules in NFL? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:58:12 No. Bet know about them. Somebody talked about them here briefly. I have no idea what he's talking about. The new rules, onside kicks are illegal before the fourth quarter. The team must be losing in order to kick an onside kick. Oh, that's for Sean Payton. They're doing all this for Sean Payton.

Starting point is 02:58:27 And the team must announce intention to kick an onside kick ahead of time. Oh, nah, nah, nah, no, no, no. That's some bullshit, bro. What type of bullshit is that? They kind of ruined onside kicks a couple years ago with the rules. But the rest of the kickoff rules

Starting point is 02:58:43 are actually way better and should be more competitive. I forgot what they all are off the rest of the kickoff rules are actually way better and should be more competitive. I forgot what they all are off the top of the head, but the lineup is different where it's closer but further away. So the kickoff is closer to the return team. It's going to be a bigger impact. And you have to land, the goal is to land it between like the 10 and goal line if I remember correctly. So it's going to lead to a lot more active balls instead of trying to kick it out of the end zone every single time. Let's see. I mean this news won't put a damper on my NFL season excitement. Nah, not at all.

Starting point is 02:59:16 Super excited. Same. Having no idea who to draft first and second round of fantasy. I'm so lost. I've been on all the little fantasy expert guys. I'm going wide receivers this year, unless I get something high. You know what pick you got yet? No. In any draft you went? No.

Starting point is 02:59:31 Cuz Ice don't do the drafts anymore until September 7th. The facts. We'll be trying to draft right before the league start. Whenever you do it, that whatever rule you had last year, 30 seconds, 40 seconds. No, no, no, I will be talking to everybody ahead of time because y'all complain but before it was too long and then the next option down y'all complaint was too short yeah it was so it was don't worry listen man good show today hopefully it's just somewhere enjoying his vacation spending that

Starting point is 02:59:58 money owes me we want to thank our special guest Mark Lamont Hill We want to thank each and every one of y'all out there keep us in your prayers Lord knows each and every one of us Needed until then We bid you a do farewell audio Seriva dirgey hasta la vista argois so long goodbye or simple head and I will suffice remember life is a series of moments May pass moments pass so ride that bitch to the wheels for long lastly the baddies are insecure liars lonely they don't cook the bitches just want to travel and fucking talk shit about your exes the stagnant women want to travel too and the closed-minded women want to travel

Starting point is 03:00:46 too but they want you to teach them things while they travel. Grab you a Tylenol you might need it. I am your host Joe Budden. This has been a lovely broadcast. Indeed. And we will be back. I like that. You already got your ass in that space as you touch your phone She was right! She was right! I like you though. I like you though. You up there looking fresh like a little sad potato. Like a sad Mr. Potato. When the last time I had my phone up here? Only during Sleepers. During Sleepers? But she checked you on it. So I asked her if she wanted me to speak during Sleepers? Would you like me to talk during the sleeper segment? And she said no, I just don't want to see no phone. She was right. That's our people. Be nice.

Starting point is 03:01:32 Nickname, right? Shout out to Nickname. Oh, you calling niggas names now? At the end of our pod, yes I am. Salute. You my man. I love you so much bro. I'm gonna just take the higher road and have fun with you on Patreon. I love you so much bro. I'm gonna just take the higher road and have fun with you on patreon Cuz I see you I see what y'all did I know y'all want to have the internet y'all want to have the fun with me that the internet is having with the whole BM announcement thing I'm with as long as you find that's all I care about. I can't watch it will be nigga dog. Listen, I Couldn't be greater. No, I know. Yeah, I couldn't be greater. I know well, I don't be greater. No, I know.

Starting point is 03:02:05 I couldn't be greater. I know. Well, I don't know. There might be a misconception about when your BM has a new kid, new engagement, new love, like the end of their life. They could kill yourself in real life. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no comment, I got two birthdays, I got two birthdays this summer

Starting point is 03:02:27 Hey, hey, yo y'all hold it down out there man, we got about a month and a half of summer left Get your vacations on, pull out your little fucking scooters, your skateboards, your skates Some niggas is bowling in jail Niggas is doing day parties, grunches Y'all have at it, have at it out there We're going, same town, same place Hey! Man, this shit feel good

Starting point is 03:03:03 Culture question, Fem for Mel before we leave Oh god, here we go I feel like I'm about to- Crazy Right? How many years in a row did GZ win Trapper of the Year? She know Three

Starting point is 03:03:20 She was close? No I'll give you a second chance. Four. Is that your final answer? Yes. Oh, because Ice is not on his head. I'm here to music.

Starting point is 03:03:35 I hear the music. You guys are listening to Rodda music. The stars of this small hotel, this shit journalists write about me, get me confused, have me feeling like that. Enjoy the summer, we are gone I'm somewhere, I'm humble, foolin' See ya, yo

Starting point is 03:03:48 This mad nigga's on my dick You supposed to two-part that, what'd they give him? God damn it, no I'm not doin' that to my bitch, I wasn't supposed to answer the first one either You wasn't, you wasn't, but when you do that, it's a two-part question How many times and what'd they give him? A snow globe Wait, what'd you say? What'd you say they give them a snow globe wait, what'd you say?

Starting point is 03:04:09 Said a snow globe He doesn't have any free throws on the season he doesn't have any free throws on the season. He doesn't have any assists if you're like, but he didn't three of them. I'm gonna call people around. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 746 | "Cruisin' For A Bruisin"

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