The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 783 | "Dimatapped"

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

 In the latest episode from the JBP, the room shares a couple stories from their weekend (13:45) before diving right into the news of the civil suit against Jay-Z and his quick response to the claim ...(25:00). SZA releases a teaser for her new ‘Lana’ project (51:55), reactions to Doechii’s Tiny Desk Concert (55:45), and J. Cole releases eight previously unreleased records for the 10th anniversary of ‘Forest Hills Drive’ (58:39). Ice receives a phone call and an update from Max B (1:07:15), Jamie Foxx returns to the stage with the ‘What Had Happened Was…’ special premiering on Netflix (1:26:00), and DJ Mustard calls out Boi-1da on Instagram following his comments about west coast Rap (1:40:40). Also, Juan Soto signs a massive $765 million dollar deal with the New York Mets (1:43:47), the crew reacts to Daniel Perry being acquitted (2:01:39), Luigi Mangione has been charged in the killing of the UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson (2:18:22), and much more!  Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: www.patreon.com/joebudden  Sleeper Picks:   Ice | Redman - “Dont Wanna C Me Rich” Parks | J. Cole - “Can I Holla at Ya” Ish |  Lizzen, Jacquees, & Rob49 - “The Audacity” Melyssa | Aaron Frazer - “Have Mercy” Emanny | Emanny - “ATL” Marc | Cordae (feat. Anderson .Paak) - “Summer Drop”

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The thoughts views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only I Repeat it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing revealing indicting Or telling you anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals. Do not have your best interests at heart. Or our own. Enjoy the show.
Starting point is 00:00:28 I got headphones. Yeah. Yeah. Parks, do you have a black eye? I do. Right off the bat, huh? We're gonna start right here. Let's get it out the way.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Listen, when white boys got a black eye, that just means they had too much fun. Oh, shit. You went to a fun club? Oh my God. We're gonna talk about fun club. That's the first rule. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:00:47 OK. Somebody showed a club on you. The sidewalk took a club on my ass. There's going to be a lawsuit coming to someone, so careful what you say. It might really be one. Seriously, though. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:00:58 I would expect you to sue. Hold on, hold on. Sue. Give me a little piece. So me and Rem called Ice in the missing piece, and and gift was out with us. We had a good time We're walking home turn around the corner from a bodega someone said something. I'm trying to guide everyone back to the crib They left a little sidewalk vaults up Yeah, that's like a spill over that shit landed face first in the fucking pavement
Starting point is 00:01:22 That's money. What's take. What state was it? New York. New York. I got a guy. You got a guy? Oh yeah, I text him. Look, so we going to cut the camera off, you can tell us what really happened. No, I swear.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Turned the corner, he was trying to guide everybody home and then somebody said. I think I got the cussing, because I don't remember anything after that. No bullshit, Parks looked back, talking to us, and next thing you know, he was like, he not drunk. Yeah, I wasn't lit like that.
Starting point is 00:01:43 He wasn't the shit that go down to the, you fell down the stairs. No, thank God. He just tripped over the door was that was there a cone there? No, no. Oh, yeah, you know cone. Oh, that's bread Especially what happened to your neck Like it's fucked up back injury I was there Parts got back to the crib no bullshit laid on the couch that niggas start throwing up He was like y'all might have a concussion. That's I'm talking to the next day. He was like, I got you. Marks got back to the crib, no bullshit, laid on the couch, that nigga started throwing up. He was like, yo, I might have a concussion. I'm talking to him the next day. He was like, I don't remember none of that. I don't remember nothing. He's like, I think I might have got to it.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Definite concussion. Yeah. People, people, you know, I know you don't see Joe. I know you don't see Joe here today. Joe was out on personal time. We actually told him to take a couple of pods off. We actually- We suspended him. We suspended him. Yeah, as a collective. We was tired of-
Starting point is 00:02:29 He came late, he came late, we didn't like that shit. We was tired of this. He came late and he disrespected- We were tired of all the- Yeah, he disrespected with the walk in late and just sat there like, nah man, you can, the rules apply to everybody, so you take two off. I know y'all niggas want me out of here,
Starting point is 00:02:42 but for the first time, the team was actually with me I know all the juicy news you You got personal shit there that good for you all that prize picks and all that personal shit You want to deal with it not include me? Yeah, stay home and watch us turn this shit the fuck up Joe was not here, but we are here. We're here to Give you fun. Sure. Give you fun.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Sure. I'll try my best, guys. I'll try my best. Somebody still be concussed. Like an Asian prostitute, sure. Like an Asian prostitute. Give you fun. Stop that real quick.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Like an Asian prostitute? Give you fun? I'm here to give you fun. Oh shit. Yo, you know. Yo, mom. You racist. You've been in America for a long time now, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:23 You kid? You kid? Mom, I know you want to put your cape on because when you was watching, Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, day, they turn me back around. Wait, you want Thanksgiving? They told you no? When they saw the camera. No hanky panky.
Starting point is 00:03:46 When they saw the camera. And I forgot that. No hanky panky, big turkey. I have standards. I forgot that in the order of the size. Oh shit. You said what? You have standards?
Starting point is 00:03:56 She said, I have standards. Oh shit. Yo, square off, man. No, that's okay, it's okay. Let them down. We eat turkey, we don't touch turkey. Damn. Hey yo, you know what's crazy?
Starting point is 00:04:07 Oh shit. When a nigga's in his crib a lot and he not outside no more, he gotta do that. Get your shit out of here. All right, never outside. You know the big M don't allow you to get your shit, okay? You got it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:19 So get it off of here, nigga. The king would allow you, okay? Anything else? Do it, I'm good. I'm good. All right, put it away. Finish the story. Put it away. Finish else? Go ahead. I'm good. I'm good. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Put it away. Finish your story. Put it away. Finish your story. Go to your fucking book club, nigga. Go to your library. Add some books to the library. Anyway, I forgot that Eric Adams has shut a lot of that stuff down, so they get nervous
Starting point is 00:04:36 when they see the camera. I'm waiting there with the camera. I'm waiting for the shot. This nigga was exposed. Yo. Look at this. It's got a buddy. Look.
Starting point is 00:04:44 He finally got a buddy. Get it, my nigga. Hold my hand. You finished's got a buddy, look, you know He finally got a buddy, yeah, my nigga You feelin' like he's laughing with your buddy? Yes, I'm playing, yo, yo, I'm a friend that's hurt I don't even know if you're talking I'm a friend that's hurt, Pox, it's a turd, yo, it hurts You know what they say? Yes! We in!
Starting point is 00:04:57 Oh, it's Queens I let my watch talk for me My whip talk for me My gap talk for me Bap, what up, homie? My watch sayin' hi shorty, we could be friends My whip sayin' quit playin', bitch, get in My earring sayin' we could hit them all together
Starting point is 00:05:13 Shorty, it's only right that we ball together I'm in the bigger things, y'all niggas, y'all know my style Your wrist bling, bling, my shit bling black My pinky ring talk, it's 8.50 I'm sick That's why these niggas is on my dick Some pick me, some love my hits Flex my man, he gon' fuck my shit See I'm a liar man, I really don't care
Starting point is 00:05:36 I tell the hoes whatever they want yeah He try play me, I'ma blaze it And my cross post more than than the 50 mama raise it Raise it, raise it Yes! Hey you niggas ain't real outside G you niggas We got big mal here Turn your hands
Starting point is 00:05:53 Turn your fucking head back It's going down Cause I'm around 50 cent, you know I just down What up blood? What up cause? What up blood? What up gangsta? What, blood? What up, cunt? What up, blood? What up, gangsta? What up, blood? What up, cunt?
Starting point is 00:06:09 What up, blood? What up, gangsta? They say I walk around like I got a S on my chest Now that's a semi-oho In the vest on my chest I try not to say nothing The G.A. like walk playing court But I hunt a duck nigga down like it's a sport Roll me, I'll cut your gum, butt you up up If you get money, I can't get nothin' with you then fuck ya
Starting point is 00:06:30 I'm not fuck ya, I'm not fuck ya, I'm not fuck ya, I'm not fuck ya, I'm not fuck ya Ain't work this year It's that green town, Kelly Brown I'm a little bit young, heavy, I'm out of me, brisket Take it for your holiday, I don't do this shit I'm high all the time I smoke that good shit I stay high all the time
Starting point is 00:06:49 I'm on some bullshit Give me some gold, purple nays and some chocolate Give me a Dutch and a lot of Oslo shit And stay high all the time I smoke that good shit I'm high all the time I'm on some bullshit Every time I roll up
Starting point is 00:07:02 Niggas holler roll up Then I tell them hold up You ain't't getting money, you ain't smokin' In my Benzo, 20 inch Lorenzo, smokin' a window High as a motherfucker, I be on the back streets There is no one flat P, only if you got beat man, you better holla at me Niggas get locked up, stabbed up, shot up Every time I pop up, lot going on in my hood What episode is this, Parks? 783? I know you got a concussion then, but you got to bear with me today. Welcome to the Joe Button podcast. This is episode 783.
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Starting point is 00:08:02 We're going to have a nigga sign that $100 line. That extension. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Anything else, nigga? I'm good. Anything else? No, go ahead. Okay. We're going to episode 783 of the Joven Podcast. I am one of your hosts, Queens Flip, along with the other hosts. Nah, that's A-Mike Flipper.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Yeah, that's A-Mike. A-Mike. To the right. You seen her everywhere, nigga. Oh-Mike Flipper. A-Mike to the right. You've seen her everywhere, nigga. Oh my god, here we go. No, I'm not going to go into that. OK. I'm not going to go into that.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Oh, wait, you got this on? She's the only one that can go in the VIMS and pull this out, nigga. Oh! Oh! Oh! Riding the brahams for the best of the best. Oh!
Starting point is 00:08:42 Oh! Oh! Oh! Jimmy Jazz finest. Jimmy J's finest. Jimmy J's finest. Four and one. Hot and bother. Clap that up. Mel Green.
Starting point is 00:08:56 He can set the fence. Four and one. Canada's finest. The big M4. Round of applause for Melissa Ford! That sounded a little judgmental. Sorry though, you look amazing. To her right, to her right, you got him.
Starting point is 00:09:15 You know who he is, you know what he's about. He was just at the battle with his brother standing there in the crowd. They pointed at him. He was front and center. I think you had a Quinchaw jersey on, that was you? You had the big chain on or not? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was him. That was the big chain. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:29 Mr. I get money, but I don't want to show I got money. Mr. I, uh, yeah. Round of applause for my man Freeze in the building, Freeze. Yeah. Oh. Mr. Leave you behind if you're not on his time. Yeah. Mr. Leave you behind if You're Not On His Time. Mr. Leave You Behind if You're Not On His Time, Mr. A Thousand Doors.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And I did some research and I saw a couple of them. Mr. HVAC system for all my tenants, nigga. Top notch, he got the piss bottles out the car, I just checked in the window. He got it out the car. I looked to the window, I looked too up. He got the snacks in there though. Yeah got it off the carpet. I looked. I went to the window. I looked too. I looked too. He got the snacks in there though.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Yeah, he got the snacks in there. Wawa's best, Wawa's king. Round of applause for my man, Library Biggish. Yeah. Can't nobody pull them J's off with that hoodie. The professors of all professors. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Yeah. CNN, Fox, all them shit that he was a part of, man, you know, they miss him because he leaves a stain that's unremovable. He tried to walk in here today with a Morehouse tag to show off that he was the Morehouse. He got the hoodie on. He's one of them. He got one of the biggest libraries in Philadelphia. I'm just lying and making shit.
Starting point is 00:10:48 More houses next to more houses, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I like that. More houses next to more houses. I thought you was an engineer. I didn't know you was a rapper. Are you a doctor yet? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Yeah? About 20 years, yeah. 20 years doctor? Oh, shit. Shout out to Dr. Mark Lamont-Hill. Cheers. Thank you. More doctors, yeah. 20 years, exactly. Holy shit. Shout out to Dr. Mark Lamont-Hill. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I'm your doctor, yeah. Oh man, you know who this is. Mr. Light Bright. Mr. Don't Know Boundaries. Wow. Mr. Don't Respect Work Ethics. No, no, no. This here you go.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Sorry, sorry, okay, okay, sorry. Already. Mr. It's a nice hoodie, bro. That is nice. No, no, no. Off you go. Sorry, sorry, okay, okay, sorry. Already. Mister. It's a nice hoodie, bro. That is nice. No, no, let me finish, let me finish. Give my man an intro. Mister, steal your girl.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I was gonna say that. Mister, steal your girl. Mister, I get up and dance anyway I want to. He give her back though. No, he don't give her. Mister, I'd play them all. I borrow your girl. Mister, kiss them in the mouth the first day.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Mister, hold their hands and play fingers into their twitters fingers with them and duck the donuts. Mr. Put them in front of the line and duck the donuts and put them in the back of the line at the same time. A round of applause for my man E Money, E Monty, E Major, E Best. You that nigga? And you just, we just got Parks. Damn. We got a lot of people. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, nigga. And you just did.
Starting point is 00:12:07 We just got Parks. Damn. Damn, everybody's all over here. We just got Jib. No, no, no, no. The best engineer. I can't look at you the same because you got that black eye. And I really think somebody popped for me.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I think I'm still beautiful, bro. You are, man. I thought, oh, you put extra gel in this morning because you got the black eye. And you know, I had to make up for something. Did we say this, Parks? You look like you got the super. You did Pod Wives yesterday, right? We did. And in my head, You know about the black guy. Let me say this, Pops. You did pod wives yesterday, right?
Starting point is 00:12:26 We did, we did. And in my head I said, damn, son, like did Pops, did Joe actually make Pops, make Wren punch Pops in the face? Did he actually expose Pops? Round of applause for the best engineer in the fucking world. You know who he is, you know what he's about. You know how he gets.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Yo, hold on, can we stop doing that too? Say round of applause, you fat. Stop doing that. Don't look over here all. You know how he get Yeah, hold on. Can we stop doing that too? Say a round of applause you fat Oh shit Don't look over here all the time He called me a what? I didn't say nothing bro He called me a cigarette in the UK? No, no he said fat Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
Starting point is 00:12:52 Oh that's your bitch Y'all awfully close together huh? S'mores Y'all niggas look like the s'mores Y'all niggas just stop playing with me both of you niggas Who you talking about? What you mean? Y'all wanna play mind tennis with each other?
Starting point is 00:13:03 I just tell you what he said Yeah, two smart niggas together. Chill. Let me just have my shit, man. Round of applause for the best engineer in the fucking world, my nigga, Pickety Parks, nigga. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Oh. How was that? That was fucking amazing. And not just engineer. That was amazing. Corey's here, Cole's here, Ian's here, Keev is here. Erickson in the back. Genghis here.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Can I do all that? I don't want to introduce all them niggas. I'm kidding. Cory's over here. And most of all, you are here. You missed that part. Oh, she's going for the co-ay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:35 You know what, though? That Prospect shit looking good, huh? I don't like that shit. I don't like the type of time she's got. Oh my god, get over it. All right, OK. Welcome, though. How was your week?
Starting point is 00:13:46 Weekend? Weekend. I had a great time until I didn't, but y'all go ahead. I had a good weekend. How was your weekend, Mark? It was good, you know, I normally don't go outside, and I thought we were gonna do Pod's giving last week, so I told my wife we were going out, so we got a babysitter doll and shit.
Starting point is 00:14:03 And then I found- Oh, you can't waste that? Oh, I can't waste that. No, no, no. And so I went to the mall know, so got a babysitter, did all this shit, and then I fucked. Oh, you can't waste that? Oh, I can't waste that. No, no, no. And so I went to the mall, was coming back, in fact I bumped into Cory in the mall. Then I was like up at Shore Hills, then I was like. Shore Hills, you hit him right in the head. I want him.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Is that the good one? Yes. I don't know, I just. You know what I mean? That's the one. That's one of those designer shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Max Maron.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Yeah, yeah. I don't know, I just moved it. About eight minutes from his house. Right there. My apartment complex is right there. The projects. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:14:34 And so after it got canceled because Joe's on suspension, I had to figure out something else to do. So I decided to take my wife to the Usher concert. Oh. Wow. That's a bad Miami. So we went. No, wow. That's a bad idea. That's a bad idea. What, what, what, what?
Starting point is 00:14:46 So we went, no, no, I know better. Okay, okay. My man, don't cherish. So I was looking for tickets, and they had tickets up in the rafters. Of course, can't do that. No, you can't do that. They had tickets front row. No, can't do that.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Then they had tickets like fifth row. And the fifth row tickets was basically the same price as the front row tickets. So if I had been a less smart man, I would have got the front row tickets. But I wouldn't have my wife that close to usher. Yeah, yeah. Front row tickets come with cherries. So, but first of all, this motherfucker's a genius. He killed it, whole thing.
Starting point is 00:15:18 But right in the middle, he started singing. He pulled out them cherries. He said, I'm gonna take it to the back today. Oh, shit. See, y'all confused. He does that all the time. Well, I didn't know. Well, niggas don't know that.
Starting point is 00:15:28 He started working. First row, second row, he got right to our aisle. I did the full block. Like, I am not, like, when we go to other shows. You hated on ush? I, yes. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Completely. I am completely confident that 99% of the shows I will leave home with my wife and come back with my wife. Usher, I'm not so confident. Protect your queen. I'm not so confident. It's like a household name. Usher, Usher, fuck with me,
Starting point is 00:15:53 Usher would turn into the other Usher nigga. I'm not worried about her like sleepwalking. What I'm worried about, my whole thought the whole time was if my wife is on the Barclays Center, on the TV screen, eating cherries out of Usher hand, Div Niggickers on the pod is gonna fry me up. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Oh yeah, that's the cover. That's the cover of the next episode. You would have been turkey. Yeah, but I wouldn't have came back. I'd have been on suspension too. But you enjoyed it. I had a good time, yo. She had a great time.
Starting point is 00:16:18 She had a great time, she loved it. And Usher's a man, that motherfucker's a genius. I'm a Usher fan, but I'm like a much bigger fan after watching him perform. I had never seen him live before. It's a genius. I'm an Usher fan, but I'm a much bigger fan after watching him perform. I had never seen him live before. It's a way different show. I keep, I told you. His show, his live show is,
Starting point is 00:16:29 I get the comparisons to other people, but his live show is just different. Without all the other theatric shit, that stagemanship shit, he got down. Amazing. How was your weekend, E? Had a couple of flights. Taking care of personal business.
Starting point is 00:16:45 You flew something in? No, no. You flew out to something? Family, yeah, I flew family. You paid? I mean, you're wife from early. It's my family. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:54 You're wife from early. That's true. They become family quick. What you doing? What you doing? Tonight. Wait, hold on, y'all. Did you pay for their flights
Starting point is 00:17:01 or did they pay for their own flights? It's my family member, yes. I went to go get my family member. Wait, getting them from the airport and paying for their flights and different things. I can't really develop those. Oh, got it, got it, okay, I'm just making sure. Oh yeah, no, it was business.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Had to take care of some family business. Got it, nice. That was my weekend. Okay, Ish, how was your weekend, my brother? It was cool, I didn't do family shit. Family shit too? Yeah, family shit. That's the one we all using today? I did, I went to, on my white shit, went to go cut the tree down.
Starting point is 00:17:33 We go cut. Wait, hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you went to go cut? It's a ritual he says. Physically cut the tree down? Yeah. Nah, he's about that shit. He's got the saw and everything in the trunk. Did you cut it with a Caribbean style,
Starting point is 00:17:46 or you cut it with the ax, or you cut it with the? What is Caribbean style? Machete. You can't cut a Christmas tree with a machete. Who cheap ass trees? He get you my good. For the love of my trees, expensive. And yes, you can.
Starting point is 00:18:01 You got a Bonsai tree too. With one little ornament. They said you got the Charlieonsai tree. You got a Bonsai tree. With one little ornament. You got the Charlie Brown Christmas tree. You got the Charlie Brown Christmas tree. The gold star sticker on that shit. The gold star sticker on that shit. That niggas done? I went with my family.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I went with my family. They cut down the Christmas tree. Cut it yourself. What axe? Saw. A bow saw? Electric? Nah. Yeah. They give you a saw,
Starting point is 00:18:29 they got a bunch of saws hanging on the thing. That's a good workout too. You just walk up and pick one up. Yeah. How long it took you? It ain't, it's easy. It ain't as hard as you think. Do they already start it for you?
Starting point is 00:18:38 Oh, okay. Like you just be walking, it's just fields and fields, it's rows and rows and rows of trees. And one just spoke to your soul and was like, oh this is it right here. You just go off and pick whatever one you want to pick and you cut that one.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Y'all decorate already? Did you pick the first one or did you walk for a minute into the woods? Nah, it's just because white people are different, bro. Yo, it's far out in a bougie, it's Mendham, New Jersey, so it's like Whitney Houston, all them lived out there. So usually- So you got expensive Christmas tree.
Starting point is 00:19:03 He caught that right, He got that right. Whitney Houston. Yo, anyway- Don't start your shit about talking about no money. I know, I ain't got to get to you. We'll get to you. But yo, so no, it's just literally trees, as far as your eyes can see,
Starting point is 00:19:13 and you just go out there and pick out a tree. But evidently, we was on CP, because when we got there, that shit was packed. Track truck, you couldn't barely park out there. And then, no, so we got there, a lot of the good whites had already took the pick of the litter. They had already taken the pick of the litter.
Starting point is 00:19:31 But now you got the skinny, dried up shit. Now you just got to spend a little bit more to get a better tree. Got it. That ain't nothing for you. We spend like 2k? Spend something. Douglas fir?
Starting point is 00:19:42 You got some fancy shit in there. Drop a little something on the tree. Nah, it's cheap, man. Like $200, $300 for the tree. These trees are expensive now. That's expensive, bro. Cut your own tree? $300? Yeah, doing all the work. $300, y'all cutting that tree. It's an experience though. They got the train ride for the kids,
Starting point is 00:19:59 around the shit, hot cocoa, all that shit. Oh, that's some white shit. With Ish, he wants to give his family the shit that he didn't have as a kid. So it's important that he does all the shit, the trap, I'm with you on that shit. He want to do the trade, he want to do the cutting the tree, he didn't have that shit, the nigga the tree
Starting point is 00:20:16 that he was cutting was weed. He made cookies for something. He's chopping the weed. You know, I got the purple hair, he's got the blacks and the greens. That's what I like about you though. You are an idiot. You go above and beyond, I got the blacks and the greens. That's what I like about you though. You are an idiot.
Starting point is 00:20:28 You go above and beyond. I love that. You're a fucking idiot. And at your age you wanted to experience this shit. At my age? I love that. You're supposed to have your trees up already by now, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I was supposed to get by this weekend. Like typically the week after Thanksgiving most people do it. Oh, okay. Yeah. Mel, how was your weekend here? I didn't do much, I just worked out. He went to the gym for three days. I worked out a lot, yes.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Three day gym? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, Saturday and Sunday. And then Monday I went to go see my new studio space. How was that coming along, man? Flex on, nigga, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:08 It's going extraordinarily well. So I was meeting with the contractors about the set build and the whole nine, everything that you went through with your studio. Don't watch me. I spent money. Are you spending or is this being gifted? No, it's not being gifted.
Starting point is 00:21:22 That's hate. It is hate. It is hate. It is hate. This is a fully self-funded project. Thank you very much. There, it's not being gifted. That's hate. It is hate. It is hate. This is a fully self-funded project. Thank you very much. There we go, girl. You are every woman. I am every, yes.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Yes, see? New hot and bothered out? There is a new episode out, yes, with my girlfriend, Natasha, Natasha Ellie. It's really good. It's a part two. Mm-hmm. I gotta catch up.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Yes, you do. I'm behind, I'm behind. Yeah, yeah, you do. I'm only trying to learn all about the men of course. You put a post up that- This up. Yes you do. I'm behind, I'm behind. Yeah, yeah you do. I'm only trying to learn all about the menopause. You put a post up that. This one's juicy. Before we get the freeze, I'm sorry. I don't know if that's appropriate
Starting point is 00:21:50 in the menopause conversation, but I mean. You put. You put. You're hilarious. Sorry. Okay. There is a misnomer about that shit. Oh, my bad.
Starting point is 00:21:59 But go ahead. But before that. You put a post up that Hot and Bothered, you know Hot and Bothered is coming to an end like as far as the season. Oh yeah, yeah the season, the first season. Yeah, nice, nice. Alright so we down with the book.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I need a break in between season one and season two so I can get the new set built. Nice. Yeah, that's the plan, that's the only reason for the hiatus. Gotcha. Is I need to move out of the current studio, get into my new shit. That's right, so for niggas who thought it was over. Why would anybody fucking think that? It's over.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Because niggas just hate us. It's over now, move over. I mean, I'm not gonna lie, starting a new podcast is really hard. Most podcasts don't make it past the 21st episode. True. Like it's not, it is a fucking grind. Like I made it to six and said, enough of this.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Oh yeah. You only did six. Six or seven, something like that. I'm gonna get this shit out of here. Yeah made it to six and said, enough of this. Oh yeah. You only did six. Six or seven, something like that. I'm gonna get this shit out of here. Yeah, you quit my shit after five. Yeah, yeah. Y'all weren't paying either. Freeze, how was your weekend, Freeze?
Starting point is 00:22:56 Kind of similar to what Mark said. Like we anticipated pause giving and had babysitters and shit set up. So I'm like, we ain't wasting this. We gotta do something. So we just went out with stocksoxx for a little bit, bounced around, shot some of my guy Flea, went to his party,
Starting point is 00:23:12 and Parks hit me, was like, yo, we running around in the store, we here, come out. We went out there with them. Hit the little hookah bar, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, had a good time. And then you went to the battle.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I didn't go to the battle. You wasn't there? No. For real? I thought you, I kinda swore I saw time. And then you went to the battle. I didn't go to the battle. You wasn't there? No. I thought you said it, I was laughing. Oh, I thought you, I kinda swore I saw you. Where were you? You didn't see me. I was busy.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Okay. Baby free, busy. Okay, you and your lady. Just had a nice night. You had a lot of, it's guys, man. What was you doing? What'd you do?
Starting point is 00:23:39 Yeah, what was your weekend like? What was your weekend? Family. Mm. What happened? Family shit, I was just with family. Just a weekend full of family. That's all that. Family's important. It's very important.
Starting point is 00:23:47 It's everything. Spend some money. I did. My wife's trying to get a new couch. Our house, restoration hardware. Yeah, I know. We're doing some family stuff. We're hosting a family dinner.
Starting point is 00:23:55 So she's buying man's shit and wanting to go to get these couches. Let's make a whole mood. We're going to get these couches. We're going to get these couches. We're going to get these couches. We're going to get these couches. We're going to get these couches. We're going to get these couches. We're going to get these couches. We're going to get these couches. We're going to get these couches. We're going to get these couches. We doing some family stuff, family, we hosting a family dinner.
Starting point is 00:24:05 So she's buying man's shit and wanting to go to get these couches. Look at that nigga, whole mood change. Word. Right. They don't like that shit. They can start rubbing this and that. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:15 They get me stressed out, man. I had to hit E and I'm like, yo nigga, what's up man, like, what we doing? Are we doing bonuses? Like, what's up? Like, oh man. You were advanced, man. You're advanced. You're advanced.
Starting point is 00:24:26 I need a bonus and an advance. Like what the fuck? Nigga we don't need it. Don't put your cup away, dog. Oh shit. Why? Please, sir. Nigga we don't have, I'm going to bank.
Starting point is 00:24:37 We're not rich like you. I'm not. I got a discount for you. We don't hide our cribs. We don't hide our cribs somewhere where Mr. Scrooge live and all that shit. We don't hide our cribs and shit like that. And we're not rich. You got gold still from the eighties. Nigga we don't hide our cribs somewhere where Mr. Scrooge live and all that shit. We don't hide our cribs and shit like that. And we're not rich.
Starting point is 00:24:46 You got gold still from the 80s, nigga. We don't got that. We don't got that, nigga. But welcome, man. Welcome. It's good to see everybody, man. I'm happy to see everybody. Let's get to the show, man.
Starting point is 00:24:55 What's up? What we doing? It's a lot. It's a lot going on. What we doing, man? Like, I think we should get it out there. Mr. Mark, what's up, Mark? What you want to take us in?
Starting point is 00:25:03 Get out the way, man. You know what it is. I mean, ho, we gotta talk about ho first, right? Exactly. Okay. They gonna think we pussy if we don't. Right, straight into ho. We gotta get right to it. And we can do it cause Joe ain't here, so you know.
Starting point is 00:25:15 He ain't gotta go ahead and take no backlash at anything we say. Okay, hold on. Let's give the backstory. We have to introduce the topic. This is usually where Mel shouts. Mel got us. Okay, so I'm looking, I have to introduce the topic. This is usually where Mel shines. Yeah, Mel got us. What is it for?
Starting point is 00:25:26 Okay, so I'm looking, I just want to read the letter that Roc Nation responded to the act. Let's start with the first, man. What's that? Jay-Z has been- Are you sure you stopped the contract? Oh, shit. What?
Starting point is 00:25:43 So Jay-Z was made part of a civil suit where he was alleged to have participated in a against a 13 year old girl. Initially it was filed a couple of months ago without him on it. They made an addendum to the civil complaint and made it so that it wasn't just Diddy
Starting point is 00:26:00 whose name was on there, but now Jay-Z's name was on there. Within two hours, Jay-Z responded to this allegation with what Mel's about to read. Yes, this was very fine print, okay? I'm just letting y'all know. Get the readers. I know what I'm getting you for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I'm getting you the real shit. All right, my lawyer received a blackmail attempt called a demand letter from a lawyer, quote unquote, named Tony Busby. We, What he had calculated was the nature of these allegations and the public scrutiny that would make me want to settle. No sir, it had the opposite effect. It made me want to expose you for the fraud that you are in a very public fashion. So no, I will not give you one red penny." This shit was fire. This letter was like. He was tight.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Now you could feel the anger in the text. Oh yeah. For sure. According to my sources, he did this himself on his iPhone. Oh no, you can hear this until this was him. Yeah. Okay. These allegations are so heinous in nature
Starting point is 00:26:57 that I implore you to file a criminal complaint, not a civil one. Whomever would commit such a crime against a minor should be locked away, would you not agree? These alleged victims would deserve real justice if that were the case. This lawyer, who I have done a bit of research on, seems to have a pattern of these types of theatrics. I have no idea how you have come to be such a deplorable human, Mr. Busby, but I promise
Starting point is 00:27:21 you, I have seen your kind many times over. I'm more than prepared to deal with your type You claim to be a Marine Marines are known for their valor you have neither honor nor dignity My only heartbreak is for my family my wife And I will have to sit our children down one of whom is the age where her friends are surely to have seen the press and ask questions about the nature of these claims and Explain the cruelty and greed of people. I mourn yet another loss of innocence.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Children should not have to endure such at their young age. It is unfair to have to try to understand inexplicable degrees of malice meant to destroy families and human spirit. My heart and support goes out to the true victims in the world who have to watch how their life story is dressed in costume for profitability by this ambulance chaser in a cheap suit bars
Starting point is 00:28:11 You have made a terrible error in judgment thinking that all celebrities are the same. I am not from your world I'm a young man who made it out of the projects of Brooklyn. We don't play these types of games We have very strict codes of honor of Brooklyn. We don't play these types of games. We have very strict codes of honor. We protect children. You seem to exploit people for personal gain. Only your network of conspiracy theories, fake physics, will believe the idiotic claims that you have levied against me. If not, for the seriousness surrounding harm to kids, would be laughable." Wow. And then they deleted that version. Yeah, they took that down.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Then posted another version where he added one more sentence and said, you're about to find out just how different I am. Yeah. So the reason he was so mad was not just because a civil case was made, but before his name was added, they came to him and basically said, basically, if you pay us. Then we'll shut the fuck up. We won't say nothing.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Yes, of course. And your name won't get added. And that's when the lawyer stood up and said, I'm not gonna be intimidated by Jay-Z, I'm a Marine, I'm tough, and that's where all that stuff came out. So I don't know who's innocent, I don't know who's guilty, but Jay-Z's response seems like the response to somebody who doesn't wanna be black man.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Well remember, when the man first went to them, they sued the lawyer. Right. They initially sued him like, yo listen, we not playing them games, y'all are trying this, we're su them, they sued the lawyer. Right. They initially sued him like, yo, listen, we're not playing them games. Y'all are trying this. We're suing you right off the rip. And then the lawyer tried to respond and say,
Starting point is 00:29:31 that was an attempt to silence him or get the media to play media games and all of that. How do we feel though? Do we feel that Jay-Z is guilty? Do we feel like Jay-Z participated in this act in 2000? I'll tell you. With Diddy, do we feel that? I kept hearing, you know, with the Diddy thing,
Starting point is 00:29:51 when that first came out, I jumped right out. I believed everything that Cassie said. It was about the victim in that instance. In this case, and a lot of the stories we heard about Puff throughout the years, it's kind of tracked a little bit. You know what I mean? Yeah. With Hov, A, I haven't heard these stories
Starting point is 00:30:07 about him like that. Not saying they're not true, I'm just saying, I haven't heard them. B, I don't know who the victim is. That's important to me. And he wants to make the name public. Like, with the Puff situation, when the news first broke, it was Cassie suing Puff.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Understood. It was very easy to believe her, because we knew her to have been around him. We've heard some of the things that she went through. I don't know who this victim is. This could be made up for all I know. So yeah, I'm not just jumping out the window just believing, hey, I said this happened. I don't, I don't, okay, I need more. So in the part where he says, if this is in fact true, why not file a criminal complaint? So I just had a question about the statute of limitations.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Have they been extended? Yeah, in New York in particular. Okay, all right, so then he's right. Why was this not a criminal complaint filed? If you are done so, so the alleged charge is that he and Puff engage in a sexual act acts actually 13 year old so that the the details surrounding that were Allegedly they left the Grammys and we're going to be amazing some awards party
Starting point is 00:31:17 And we're going to the after party for the awards my thing is and this is where I lose focus sometimes, I'm not having my daughter in a car with two gentlemen or any gentleman without myself or my daughter's mom present. That's one. Number two, if you're 13 years old, why are you going to the after parties at the VMAs? Pyrrha, the VMAs are over at 10, 11 o'clock. If you're 13, why are you going to the VMAs
Starting point is 00:31:43 with people without parental supervision? I mean, some of that stuff is in the great areas. Hold on. That's a bigger door that nobody really wants to walk through because I agree with Ish in a way. But kids sneak out. Same thing with a lot of situations where it involves children or parents
Starting point is 00:32:01 allowing their children to be around these adults. Serving them up on a platter. Who said? Serving them up on a platter. And no one is holding the family accountable. Hold on, hold on. I don't like that. I don't like this. Let me just say, I understand what you're saying, but as someone who was 13, 14, I was outside at 11 o'clock at night at some times. And my parents might have not known. So I don't wanna throw that out. You're talking about going to a VMA after party
Starting point is 00:32:31 that is studded with celebrities and you being a 13 year old female girl getting admission into that spot. So, and supposedly she went with them allegedly. Okay. So there's a couple of things that I think are important, right?
Starting point is 00:32:46 One, to Mel's question, I think, yeah, a criminal proceeding is important, but there are legitimate reasons why people file civil complaints, even if they can't. I know you're not saying that now. Yeah, totally, I totally understand. But in the audience, I don't want people to assume that just because somebody files a civil complaint,
Starting point is 00:33:01 it's a money grabbing, they weren't victims. No, no, no, but the reality is the majority, like almost the entire reason why people file civil complaints is because the statute of limitations expires, and that is their only recourse. That's real, but with sexual assault, a lot of times people also don't feel. There's another reason too.
Starting point is 00:33:17 They feel like they can't get justice. People a lot of times feel like the person's not gonna get prosecuted, I'm not gonna get any kind of justice, and I can hold them more accountable. Like Diddy was held more accountable from this civil thing than anything that had happened to him before, reputationally, all these other things. So there are reasons why people do it.
Starting point is 00:33:34 And then to the second point, I mean, I agree as far as pairing, I would never let my 13 year old girl go to the VMAs with Diddy, right? With any man. We gonna take that off of them. Yeah, take Diddy off of them, right. With anybody. Take them. Take that off of them.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Right. We're anybody. Take them. I'm not letting my child, my 13-year-old daughter, go to the VMAs with Patti LaBelle and Aretha Franklin without me or my daughter's mom being present. You don't have to let... You don't have to let them. See, that's the thing we missing.
Starting point is 00:33:57 And I'm not saying this to like give credence to anything else, because I don't believe any of... A little bit of the lawsuit. But just from knowing other people's situation, just from being a younger child, I remember kids around my age not being let out, but they might make up stories of sneak out. I remember my mom used to let me go from the Bronx
Starting point is 00:34:18 to my cousin's house in Queens and stay for the weekend. On my own, take the Q44, go over there boom boom, hang out. What I did over there, she was always not known to her. So this possibility is where you might be telling your parents you're somewhere and not be there. My cousin used to tell his moms that he was coming to our house and would tell me and my brother, yo, if my mother called, I'm there and never showed up. His mother would never know where to put it. But even- Let's keep this in context.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Let's keep it here. You're talking about a VMA after party. Fam, you're not wearing your sweatpants and your sneakers that you walked out your house with onto the VMA after party. Teenagers are sneaky as shit. Borrow culture from homegirls. I agree with Ish. I mean, I think it's unlikely that you make it
Starting point is 00:35:02 to the Grammys without your parents knowing, but to me, there's another piece to this, which is how the music industry works, which y'all know. That's what I'm about to say, I was about to say that it's a deeper picture. Like how did they come into contact with each other initially?
Starting point is 00:35:14 Like is it the fact, was she an aspiring artist? Is that how they actually made each other's acquaintance? From what I read, it was alleged that she kind of waited out trying to get into some shit, and the limo driver spotted her and then said, stay here. You could come with us to the after party or something like that. And then on top of that, you could-
Starting point is 00:35:33 Allegedly, according to that. Has anybody ever seen Jay-Z outside? Like, let's be clear, we all are industry, even if we're not industry, we're affiliated, we two, three degrees of separation. You not just walking up to Jay-Z, my nigga. Them niggas is the size of mountains that be around Jay-Z. You ain't hear what he said though.
Starting point is 00:35:50 That limo driver had saw a third. Boy, this was 2000. I was going to say, this is 2000. No, no, no. 2000. In 2000, Jay-Z was still walking around a little bit. You know what I'm saying? He was.
Starting point is 00:36:01 He was. He was. I was working. He was walking around with Ty Ty and them. So remember that clip that was going around talking about the time, you know, chaos and. I remember, yes. You know, September 11th and Jay-Z's album
Starting point is 00:36:12 and stuff like that. That club, he used to come to, and like he would be there early. And like he would be in my section. We'd just sit there and chat and stuff like that because he really didn't drink. He was just buying shit for all of his friends and stuff. But the point is, is that he was not walking around
Starting point is 00:36:27 the way that he walks around now. He wasn't presidential. Yeah, because I mean, this was 2000, 2001, 2002. Gotcha. Hard Knock Life sold five million albums in 1998, right? So we are still talking about a successful businessman, not saying that this man or successful businessman can't do this.
Starting point is 00:36:48 What I'm saying is his accessibility and the level of his accessibility is not just so Joe Schmo could just be like, yo, come here, that's not happening. And I walked up to Hov and got an autograph in 2000, personally. Yeah, a lot of people, a lot of people. At the next game.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Even the old five niggas walked up to Jay-Z and by knowing them, like you hit them. I think we're talking about mute points. But here's the thing. To me, there's a big point here about the music industry, which is when you got, oh, I'm sorry. Here's the thing. What I'm saying is that it makes you look at it
Starting point is 00:37:21 a little bit deeper, meaning that if you're at the door at the VMAs after party and you're allowing two men to walk in with a 13 year old or a girl that looks young, then it's a way bigger picture than that's needed on. That's how I feel, right? This is not, what is she, we gotta ask you. This industry is full of enablers and enablers.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Can we just be honest? That's what I was saying. Can we just have an honest moment about this industry? Just honestly. Anything that they want to happen can happen however they need it to happen. I'm not saying it's happening in these manners, I'm not saying it's happening exactly like that. I'm just saying this situation,
Starting point is 00:37:55 and Jay spoke to it in his statement, this is fucked up because there's really things that are happening to kids like this. We've heard many stories, if you speak to almost anybody in Hollywood, the Koreas and all of them, they'll tell you that we were young kids and we were being snuck into stuff. We were being given drinks. So this is not like in Fathom, but I think what Jay is saying is like, this is what's
Starting point is 00:38:19 so fucked up about is that you use real life situations that actually happen into this industry and try to attach me to it. and I'm the furthest thing from that. And now I don't want to even fight the point of, well, shit like this don't happen or who the hell has a 13 year old child out? No, they be 13 year old child out. It's just don't attach my name to it. And even if I'm a fucked up parent and I sent my kid there, I was irresponsible, they still shouldn't get sexually assaulted, right? And part of the problem with the music industry
Starting point is 00:38:46 is a lot of time when you have young kids, and again, let me be clear, I don't believe this accusation against Jay-Z. I actually don't believe it. I think Jay-Z probably, I think Jay-Z didn't do this. That's just my opinion. I'm going by the circumstantial evidence and my gut. I just don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:38:59 But in general, there are teenagers who wanna be stars. And parents get sold a bill of goods. Yo, we gonna make your kid a big star. We're gonna make him rich, make him famous. I got your kid, I'm in charge. And a lot of these parents have in good faith, give their kids to these people. And that's how they end up at these award shows.
Starting point is 00:39:16 That's how they end up staying at people's houses for six months. That's how they end up getting guardianship. And that's how people's kids get molested and hurt and exploited. And I'm just saying part of it is this whole industry encourages parents to give them their children. And as parents, we gotta be like, fuck no.
Starting point is 00:39:30 I have a question for you. What would be the reason that this lawyer or this victim attached Jay-Z's name to this? It's a shakedown. It would be a shakedown. If that's what's happening, it would be a shakedown. Very simple. If somebody called you right now, Flip, you as Flip,
Starting point is 00:39:44 and said, yo, I heard you did some, I got some wild shit on you, I'm about to put it on the shade room, you give me $100, I won't do it. You probably, $100 is a low enough amount of money for you that you just would give them $100 so you ain't got to deal with the accusations. I understand. Mark, can we speak to the fact that I think a lot of these lawyers now, they just as savvy as the information and stuff that's being spread online and on YouTube and all that
Starting point is 00:40:03 other shit that they'll just, like when this the puff shit first started coming out you had these little think pieces of people trying to now attach Jay to it oh that's his friend but I think they'd be like oh you know what that does that does make a little sense I could kind of tie that in I think that's what that is. And then to the artist to most people or a lot of the celebrities I said not most what happens is you wait. All right, is it worth me fighting this, or if I just pay it and make it go away?
Starting point is 00:40:30 True or not? What am I at risk at? Because now, I've seen people online tagging the NFL. Yo, y'all need to settle your business deals with him. If you're Jay-Z, you might be like, yo, I don't need this headache right now. And this is what the lawyer, I'm talking about, I don't believe none of this shit either, but this is what the lawyer is thinking. Hey, you might be like, yo, I don't need this headache right now. And this is what the lawyer, I'm talking about,
Starting point is 00:40:45 I don't believe none of this shit either, but this is what the lawyer is thinking. Hey, he got too much going on, where if this come across his desk, he just gonna sign off and let's just get rid of it. Sign an NDA, it never happened, and we just came up on some money. Yeah, the hope is that he's gonna settle to avoid
Starting point is 00:40:59 even just the circus of the court of public opinion. Public scrutiny. Yeah, but. The problem with that is if you do that and the information somehow comes out at some point, now you look guilty. You paid with just an admission of guilt in some people's eyes.
Starting point is 00:41:11 That's right, yeah. Do you think that the NFL tries to sabotage with Jay? No. No. I think anybody with a brain kind of can see a little bit through this, or maybe just don't believe it. Let's, hold on, let's just be fair. Yeah, that's our opinion.
Starting point is 00:41:29 That's my opinion. But we don't know for sure nothing. Correct. I don't put nothing past nobody. Don't get me wrong. His character and the things that he has shown us thus far, I would want to believe in that. But I've been disappointed by other people in the past So I'm prepared for even with this with the words that he said it's he's a clever man So don't get me wrong if he wanted to lie make it sound good. He know how to do it
Starting point is 00:41:56 I'm not saying I believe that I'm just saying I want to leave enough room for if at some point fact one of my heroes Disappoint me. I'm not now looking like. Or you know what else? And that's what I said based on the information I got so far. Or you know what else? The lawyer could look at it as, you probably didn't do this, but you got something.
Starting point is 00:42:14 And usually once the floodgates open, the rest of them come. So whatever you do got back there, you might want to settle this just to keep it from going out. Yeah, because when you said earlier. It could be something just as simple as that. When you said earlier about, you know, with the diddy shit, yeah, there's been questionable things. You said, yo, with Jad, I disagree. To me, there are some things that if I wanted to pick at and
Starting point is 00:42:33 question, pass-wise, I could. That would just be me picking for straws. But we've heard stories about, you know, the Foxy shit and the questions about... But she's just... But she's just bugged. But, all right, now if I take that example with someone like Michael, Michael was accused by something. Someone said at a certain point he never did nothing, and then years later came back and said, well, actually, that was a lie, I was just saying that, and he actually did.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I'm just... It hates for me to have to try to see things on both sides just because I don't want to lean on the possibility that none of this shit could be true. Because it's hero worship too at some point. It's like, I don't want to believe that my favorite singer, rapper, athlete, whatever did something. I'm more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Starting point is 00:43:17 In this case, I think the evidence isn't really there, but in general, like we, cause I don't want to stop listening to a certain album. I don't want to stop watching a certain game. I didn't watch the football game and I didn't watch the Eagles win the Superbowl. Cause I'm like, I don't watch the NFL anymore to a certain album. I don't want to stop watching a certain game. I didn't watch the football game and I didn't watch the Eagles win the Super Bowl because I'm like, I don't watch the NFL anymore after Colin Kaepernick.
Starting point is 00:43:29 It's like, if I stand on the principal, I don't want to rock with it no more. So I don't need nobody else. Because when I read that lawsuit, it had two, Diddy didn't mention Jay-Z eventually, but it also said an unnamed woman, R&B singer. I don't know who it is.
Starting point is 00:43:43 I don't want to speculate, but I was sitting there like, please don't let it be nobody. Don't let it be the person in my head, but also please don't let it be nobody that I love, because I can't go with them three, four albums. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, because we want to-
Starting point is 00:43:56 I think I know. Yeah, I hope it's not. I hope it's not. Well, he says that he wants the person to come forward. So at the time they were 13. Now they're probably, they're in their 30s. So do you think- 37.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Yeah. Do you think that that's like a legitimate ask? I do. I mean, Jane Doe laws are for a reason. It's to shield people from power dynamics, from power, from harassment. They're legitimate. There's a reason why people have them.
Starting point is 00:44:23 So wouldn't this classify exactly as that? Power dynamics and- Maybe, maybe. But at 37, at least, they're legitimate. There's a reason why people have them. So wouldn't this classify exactly as that, power dynamics and, you know. Maybe, maybe, but at 37, at least you have an argument. Whereas if she were 13, I'd say no, keep that child's name out here. But at 37, I mean, there's a conversation to be had, because I can't investigate, I can't find any counter evidence,
Starting point is 00:44:38 I can't do anything to defend myself if I don't know who I'm fighting against. Sure. Right. That's the hard part, it has to be fair for everybody. So in my opinion, that just That's the hard way. It has to be fair for everybody. So in my opinion that Just solidifies the money grab for me That's solidifies the money grab if you did something to me and I want to look in the eye of my accuser and say yo Y'all remember when I was blah blah blah blah blah y'all did that shit. Hmm. That's that's my stance. Y'all did that shit
Starting point is 00:45:01 Y'all remember me. Yeah, I'm back. Y'all did that shit. Especially today, fam. In the climate we in now, I'm not beat. This would be, you know what I'm saying? Like a couple years ago, I get it, but the way shit is moving today, it's almost like you damn near protected. You're not being ashamed as you want to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:19 As the accused, 100%. If you're accused of that, I'm on the same topic. Who are you? Let's, let's, let's. I deserve to face my accuser. I deserve that. 100% if you're accused of that I'm on the same time who are you? For the accuser I still want to I want the accuser who might not want to deal with the public scrutiny of not everyone knowing your Name and the victim blaming. Yeah, I'm just saying that's a side of it If it's a real accuser they might choose to go that route because they don't want to deal with the backlash that now comes with convicting or accusing someone's hero That could be a natural stance that people take I mean if I'm if I'm a victim of Diddy and I'm telling me
Starting point is 00:45:53 He's blowing up people cars and you put hits on people. These are all allegations. I'm not saying that you were not I'm just saying if I heard all that I might not want you know my name for sure yeah, you know, you know the sad part about it is that a lot of on my name. For sure. You know the sad part about it is that a lot of, if they're lying, it takes away from the real victims that's going through the action. Of course it does.
Starting point is 00:46:11 That's what I hate. Of course it does. I mean, essay, I mean a lot of things that were tolerated back in the days are no longer tolerated. I'm not cosigning it, but there were things that you were able to get away with back in the days that you're no longer able to get away with now,
Starting point is 00:46:24 and it doesn't take away from the fact that it was wrong back then What I'm saying is that there are real victims out here going through real things and that are scared to talk and can't talk because of intimidation and then we have situations like this where they use the essay or all these Negative things that are done to women and children to put it on somebody that may have nothing to do with it. What does that say?
Starting point is 00:46:51 What are you telling the people and what are you telling the victims? Now, if we find out that it's a lie on Jay-Z, what about the other people that has been scared to come forward? It creates the boy that cried wolf effect. Exactly. To where this person was lying, this person is lying,
Starting point is 00:47:04 this person is lying, so the boy that cried wolf effect. Exactly. To where this person was lying, this person is lying, this person is lying. So the person that is telling the truth now gets taken with a grain of salt because. It does look such a disservice. Exactly. Yeah. And that's my problem with it. It's a lot, you know, we know a lot of people, Ish and Mark,
Starting point is 00:47:18 and we know a lot of women that experience things that don't talk about it. They're afraid to talk about it. And we know that time and time again, we know that, like we know, and they don't talk about it. They're afraid to talk about it. And we know that time and time again, we know that, like we know, and they don't talk about it. And this doesn't do them any justice. Cause what happens is now, if they find out that this person is lying
Starting point is 00:47:35 and it's a money grab, all it does is put the system on and put the people on public perception. Now we're not gonna long, long believe anyone. Can I mention too, my biggest problem, and well not my biggest problem, but one of the problems I really have with a lot of this is when I hear about these kids going through these things and their parents not like in the situation in the lawsuit the the young lady said that her dad came and picked her up
Starting point is 00:47:58 and like knew like came and picked her up at from a gas station or something. She remember the gas station right? Made it back to the gas station. As a father, as a father, as anybody, I couldn't bear to know that a kid just went through some shit like that and then we just going back home. Did she tell her, did she say she told her father at the gas station when he picked her up? Or did she hold onto it?
Starting point is 00:48:19 I'm gonna stand corrected, but I do believe she did say that within the lawsuit that he knew and he just decided to take her back home. But even, let's just say even in the situation of R. Kelly, right? Something happened with him and someone that passed and just to be honorable to her name, I'm not going to say, but people know who we're speaking about. When it was found out by the parents, they decided, you know what, we're gonna handle this in a more calm,
Starting point is 00:48:53 civil. Yo, that's not me. Fuck your music career, fuck the money we gonna get from this, fuck what. This nigga needs to be held accountable because if you stop it at that point, we probably don't even get to this point of all the other people who are fucked up and affected by it.
Starting point is 00:49:07 So as parents, like at what point do you just decide, yo, fuck materialistic shit, fuck a name, yo, I need to honor my child's innocence and hold them down even in moments. the grand scheme of the entire thing and say she's already been put through enough and I don't want to put her through you know the trauma of a trial accusing somebody who is you know regarded as this huge entity because first of all when it comes to you know sexual assault and rape cases like what two percent of them actually are prosecutable and again there's and receive a conviction the rest of them the rest of them like literally are acquitted or don't even make it past the accusations if if I if if I had to go through that and I had to watch my parent make that decision for me for me I'm gonna grow up and I'm gonna look at my parent different hey this could have been a conversation that they had together.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Since the beginning of time, parents been selling their kids off. But that's the other part of it. Because when you look at all those R. Kelly stories, so many of the parents, it's one thing if like, I don't know, 12 plays out and you having him take care of your kid, but Chocolate Factory come out
Starting point is 00:50:20 and you still like saying R. Kelly can mentor my kid, you know what's going on, you know what I mean? And that's what was happening, like they, cause they want their own agenda. They often have their agenda. You know, they weren't confused about that. So that's why, you know, I struggle with it. I mean, I don't, it's hard for me to have empathy
Starting point is 00:50:35 for a parent that's giving their kid to the system at all in that way. It just, I can't defend it. The grandest scheme would be protecting your child no matter what. I wholeheartedly agree. I shoulda said. The grandest scheme would be protecting your child no matter what. I wholeheartedly agree. Which goes back to my point that my kids can't be outside with nobody. For sure.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Man, woman, boy, girl. At the end of the day, that's it. I'm not allowing my kids to be outside with somebody that I love and respect. Again, it could be a woman. I'm not letting my daughter just go with another woman without some parental supervision. But when it comes to some of these parents, like some of them can be groupies themselves. Most of them are.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yeah, so that's what kind of makes the whole situation work. That's been, sorry man, but that's been going on, like I said, for a long time where parents are selling their kids. Like they feel like they're living their second childhood through their child. Living vicariously through their kids. Like they feel like they're living their second childhood through their child. Living vicariously through their kid. Yeah, so, well, prayers to all involved.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Yeah, for sure. We don't really know too much more so it ain't really. You know, it's unfortunate, but yeah, prayers to everybody involved. We got anything lighter, man? Yeah, that was. You wanted to start there to get it out the way.
Starting point is 00:51:44 I know it's going to be a quick news brief. It's not going to be quick with Jay. You can't be quick with Jay. I can't do that. Did y'all... We take something a little lighter. On the music side, SZA announces a new project. And she dropped that video clip too.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Yeah, she was pissing in the woods. Okay, hold on. I didn't see it. Somebody make... That makes sense on I didn't see it. Somebody make that make sense. I need to see this. Okay. She's in the woods. Yes. Took a piss. She dropped her pants and she she squatted. She popped a squat by the side of a stream. And this was her album announcement? What's the name of the single? That was a Ray J stories? No. Pissing in the woods. Can't see the forest. Is it called Pissing in the Woods? No, no, no. The project is called Lona SOS Deluxe. It's a deluxe, it's a 10, I think it's a two year anniversary of the SOS album and she's putting out a deluxe for it. So the promotion for it was her. She said clock starts now. Listen, I ain't see no PP drop. She white though. She down, she squatting. She's in the woods. I don't see no pee but I mean. SOS nigga, it's the emergency. It's implied.
Starting point is 00:52:47 It's implied. There's only no more. I don't know what the symbolism behind that but. She wiping too. He just told you, SOS nigga, I got to go. What'd she wipe with? Toilet paper. She put some toilet paper on it.
Starting point is 00:52:59 I'm a wet man. So she put toilet paper to the woods. Seattle Blue's got that. And she didn't litter. She put it back in her back Little feminine white I peeped I was like if she gonna litter I'm gonna get on her ass It could have been a biodegradable That's true
Starting point is 00:53:12 And she ain't wash her hands though And she was right there by the stream She definitely should have rinsed in the stream I'm a little disgusted by that Yo what? I personally don't have a problem with it I don't care I've done worse I've seen women do worse I'm so disgusted by that. Yo, what? I personally don't have a problem with it. Me neither. I let it fly. I don't care. I've done worse.
Starting point is 00:53:26 I love SZA. I've seen women do worse. I've done women and done worse. Some people are into that, right? Golden Shiles, you freaks. Yeah. Who? Why y'all looking at me?
Starting point is 00:53:37 I'm not in the Golden Shiles. I'm like, who are you? You still look like that. Holy shit. Holy shit. On the bed freaks. Moisturizer. I like that. I like that. Holy shit. On the bed. Holy shit. On the bed, freeze. I know. Moisturizer. I like that.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I respect that. Nah, nah, don't look at me. Shut up and freeze, you fucking freak. That's the dye you be using? That's how I get it out. Too quiet, niggas. Don't be quiet. Oh yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:58 You're beard ain't black today. You got the... She pissed it out, nigga. You ever had a golden shower, Ish? What about you, Mark? Nope. Oh, that's what we going? All right. I'm just saying, it's not my bag, friend. It's not your bag?
Starting point is 00:54:09 No. You gave one before? No. Yeah, I can't. It's not my bag. Yeah, I mean, I mean... You had a... You drank?
Starting point is 00:54:17 Nah, listen. Yo, this nigga here, dance. Hey, pee in my face, baby. I can eat. No, no, she asked. We was in the shower, and... Eww, y'all. She asked for... She asked. What am I going to do?. She asked. We was in the shower, and she asked.
Starting point is 00:54:26 What am I going to do? She asked you to pee on her? I had to go anyway. She asked you to pee on her? OK. It's too early for this. All right. It's too early for this little party.
Starting point is 00:54:36 It is. It is early. It's too early for the party. It is. I'm looking forward to the Scissors. Absolutely. It's on brand for y'all. Real quick, it's on brand for y'all.
Starting point is 00:54:44 All right, we move from here. We'll walk there. This is on brand. We want to talk about the SZA. Absolutely. It's on brand for y'all. Real quick, it's on brand for y'all. All right, we move from here. We love that. We want to talk about SZA's music. Shout out to SZA. Shout out to SZA. Shout out to SZA. She can do whatever she want. Kinda.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Yeah, pretty much. And before this tour, I mean, it's perfect timing, right? Perfect timing. I went to the movies the other day too. What'd you see? Gladiator. She has a trailer. She got a trailer.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Kiki Palmer. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it was Kiki Palmer shit. It looks funny. I feel like it's gonna be funny I didn't what I ain't I don't even know what the movie about but you in there though I didn't care what the movie was about I was just looking at the trailer trailing her it's a female buddy comedy Buddy comedy. Mm-hmm. It's gonna be Buddy, Buddy and everything too. I'm Buddy comedy. No, no. My buddy.
Starting point is 00:55:25 My buddy and me. Kiss is there. Kiss is there. Yo, what? What did they say it was gonna be, 10 songs? 10 extra songs? Is it 10? Oh no, I don't know how many extra songs.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Oh, they didn't specify. They just said it was a deluxe. They just said the deluxe. Deluxe, I bet it's gonna be long. I don't care how many songs it is. I'm still gonna go listen to it. Anybody watch Dochey's Titans? Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:44 I didn't, oh. That shit was five. I'm not gonna hold you, fam. Anybody watch Dochi's tights? Yes. Uh-oh. I'm not gonna hold you, fam. The best one of 2024. I gotta go back and look at the tape. That's my assessment. That's tough. I didn't watch the whole thing. She might, she has from first look,
Starting point is 00:55:59 I'm trying to think of who had a better one than she did. I can't really think of one. I'm making a prediction. I think she's gonna win that Grammy. Which one did she nom. I can't really think of one. I'm making a prediction. She's better than you for now. I think she gonna win that Grammy. Which one did she nominate for? New Artist, right? No, well I think that also best rap album. I think it's best rap album.
Starting point is 00:56:13 I don't think she's gonna win that. Oh yeah, yeah. I'm just telling you what I think. Just to be nominated is amazing. Fam, absolutely. Your first real project. That's a big deal. My nigga. She's talented.
Starting point is 00:56:22 To follow the people that have already had a tiny desk and do what she did, fam, she was up there comfortable like I own this bitch. Really? For sure, for sure. Like she went crazy though. That's why when we spoke about just how TDE works, the artists and stuff, I try to remove that somewhat because you could tell she came to them.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Hungry. Hungry and a little bit proud. And I saw some stuff she did before. She was working before that. She was working, you know what I'm saying? It reminded me early like Azealia Banks-ish a little bit. Bright lights is still bright lights. No, I know. Everybody don't respond well to the bright lights. She commanded the tiny desk. She really did. Like she was Nikki. She's a star in the making. Like all just for sure. Like you thought, she was up there like nigga I mean this is my third time here. And the all black female band and backup singers and just with the break it was it was so beautiful. She went crazy. You know what I love the most about her? It's her look. Me too. Her look. That to me is so important. Her confidence just through the roof. Just in just the stardom of just a new rap star. It's not over done, it's chocolate, it represents something higher than what we,
Starting point is 00:57:28 that to me is the most fire part about, like the statement within that. Yo, even when she came here, a lot of people come here and they're a little apprehensive. She came here like, what up y'all? What up y'all? Like she came in this motherfucker, like we knew her since she was three.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Like she came in here like on some confident, comfortable shit and that's fire. You can't teach that. It translated right in that room. She gonna be around for the long haul. She's on a hell of a trajectory. Yeah, she's going crazy. That's a perfect situation of someone who was ready for it
Starting point is 00:57:54 meeting someone that can handle it. That can handle it. When timing meets opportunity. And cultivated. Yeah, yeah. Another dope woman doing some shit, Summer Walker announced she got a over at radio on Apple Music dropping.
Starting point is 00:58:05 First episode is on Friday. I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, I like the Apple Radio shit a lot. I love it too. I've been doing a lot lately. So I'm looking forward to that. And hopefully we get some new music soon. I think it'd be dope cause we kinda like struggled
Starting point is 00:58:19 kinda getting in touch with her personality a little bit. And she's also spoken about like having that kinda like anxiety and anxiety shit. So the fact that artists are finding new ways to get in touch with their fan base without having to really be... Fire. You got to it. It's dope. Very fire. Anything else in music? J Cole.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Anything dropped? J Cole just dropped. 10th anniversary man. 10th anniversary of Farris Hills' drop. He added, how many new records? I think it was eight. Yeah, I think it's eight new records. What Cole is doing with that, what is it, Inevitable? Inevitable, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Oh man, like even the show he has coming up of December 16th at the Garden, they're live streaming it free for everyone who is a member of the Inevitable and anyone that purchases Far As Hills Draw, like he's found a new direct-to-consumer way that is, they just want some other shit with it. Every introvert should do this.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Yeah. In the business. It gives you control, it still gives you a way to tap in, but you still get to keep your, you know, secrecy out there. Sense of privacy. And how's the podcast been doing, Paul? I don't know how it's been doing. I've been listening.
Starting point is 00:59:27 I will say I wish they gave us a little more time between drops. I don't know what the cadence is, but I'm just behind, because it's hard to keep up. They're longer, two and a half hours at times, two hours. It's audio only, right? Audio only. And the app, there's no app actually.
Starting point is 00:59:39 It's just on the web browser, and when you close your phone, it cuts off, which is a little annoying. But that being said, the content is amazing. And just the reinvigoration of his old catalog, to me, is brilliant. And if anybody is out there that's like an up and coming rapper or wants to be in the business, a manager, this is like a textbook study in getting on, basically.
Starting point is 01:00:00 To see my, do you feel like him backing out the battle had any effect on anything that he's doing right now? Not really hell no no Like a wide berth to actually create and not be involved in the bullshit now. I want to take back all that bullshit I said I'm glad he backed out me too. I'm glad it seemed like cold walking away. You don't think that this is this is um that Kind of catapulted him into this. This show y'all where my personality is really, really like to show y'all I wasn't on that type of time.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I think that this was, I think him backing out of the battle was knowing that this was coming because they were even talking in this, they're referencing a lot of shit. I think they did during the pandemic or maybe 2021 or 2022, something like that. So they've had this for a while. This is obviously a plan that they had
Starting point is 01:00:42 to roll out for a minute. So I'm sure that he looked at the battle and was like, I got some shit coming. I'm not doing that right now. And again, 10th anniversary, I got anniversaries coming up with this and that. Like yo, I don't want none of that. That's a negative mark on what I'm trying to do.
Starting point is 01:00:57 To me, this looks like Coles, this is the farewell tour. All of this, this looks like I'm setting it up to leave. I'm giving you the back catalog. I'm giving y'all the old shit on streaming. I'm going back giving you bonus records on each all of this project. To leave? I think Cole is setting up for post-rap. That could be a huge surprise. This is me making my way to my exit. Which will be the falloff album and then I'm done. Maybe a year younger than, he's probably 39 maybe. I mean he's about that age. I go back to that whiteboard thing he had,
Starting point is 01:01:27 or it was like a list he had put up where he was like, I got the features done, I got this done, I got this done. Like he has a plan of, I wanna hit these check marks and then I'm outta here. And now I can be exec Cole. I've never met him, but his personality is definitely one that I could see walking away from all of the ills of the music and entertainment business. Yeah, for sure. Andre 2000 shit. Yeah, like I could see walking away from all of the ills of the music and entertainment business.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Yeah, for sure. Andre 2000 shit. Yeah, like I can definitely see him. I don't mean never rap again. I'm just saying I'm no longer actively into this shit. I get a lot from... I think a lot of it too that I get is in terms of discography is It feels like he regrets kind of how the beginning went. So I think this is kind of his way of going back to it because it sounds like he was kind of how the beginning went. So I think this is kind of his way of going back to it
Starting point is 01:02:07 because it sounds like he was moving and moving and moving. He wanted his first album to be a classic. He ended up using the songs from that for the first, well the second two mixtapes. I think this is a way of him saying, you know what, let's try to give these more attention than they probably got at that time. Which I love in respect.
Starting point is 01:02:23 That makes sense to me. And we in the streaming era now. So, you know, a lot of this stuff, I mean, we don't, but there's people that solely rely on streaming. So it's like, this is a brand new introduction to a lot of them. I remember back when Drake did it with So Far Gone,
Starting point is 01:02:36 when that hit streaming, there were people that's literally listening to this for the first time. So there's people that's heard about these projects, but everybody ain't running the YouTube, that pitf ain't around no more. So it's like, where can I even hear it? So, and now Cole's gotten to a space where I can clear whatever I gotta clear.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I could do this, that, and the third, and now I can deliver these projects on streaming. I just gotta make it make sense for me. And my fan base is crazy, so now there's gonna be new shit to them that they might've never heard before. I love the way he's moving. The only thing, I didn't love the battle situation, but outside of that, I love the way he's moving. I love the way he's moving. The only thing I didn't love the battle situation,
Starting point is 01:03:05 but outside of that, I love the way he's moving. I love the way he pursues his dreams. I love the way he's like, this is the kind of music I want to make. I want to go play basketball this month. You know, whatever he wants to do, he does it. Mark, that's what I don't like, because now when I think about it,
Starting point is 01:03:16 if Cole is involved in that battle situation, I don't think it's as, don't get me wrong, we're going to have some amazing other records from him, but I do think that was a moment where you clear out. Like this moment is a little bigger than we trying to decide who's the bigger of the big three. Like this is- Fuck that bitch.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I'm okay with, my thing is not you gotta battle, just don't start and then back out. Well that's true. That's all I'm saying. If he had said, if he had said I'm above the fray, I'm not getting none of this shit, I think he would have looked cool as hell. Do y'all think-
Starting point is 01:03:42 But that's why, I'm sorry, that's why I do understand, he was like, yo, I let people gas me up. That wasn't even me. I didn't wanna do that. I let niggas gas me up, my man called me, we have a one on, and it's like, you know what, you right. My bad. And I'ma make it right and apologize
Starting point is 01:03:58 so you publicly leave. I don't wanna do it. In closing, yeah, man. Yeah, go ahead, man. Do you think that Kendrick called him up and said, step aside? Yes. I think he spoke to both of them. In clothes again, man. Yeah, go ahead, man. Do you think that Kendrick called him up and said, step aside? Yes. I think he spoke to both of them.
Starting point is 01:04:07 I think that he spoke to both of them and saw how serious they were about to go at each other. I think they, like, I don't believe that Kendrick shit that Ice always saying. I think that both of them niggas wanted to take each other's heads off, and I think he saw that it was personal and it was serious coming from both sides.
Starting point is 01:04:22 What Kendrick shit I'm always saying? About he wouldn't have said this if Homeboy ain't say that. I think all that shit was already ready to go. But I think he had it to go either way. Yeah. But I'm saying I think he spoke to them. It's like if Imani and Parks is beefing, and I'm in the middle like, yo, we talk,
Starting point is 01:04:37 and Parks like, no, I'm ready to kill this nigga. And Imani's like, no, I'm ready to kill this nigga. And I don't feel like that about neither one of them. I fuck with both of them. I'ma step back and let them go at it cuz I think it's past rap, right? So I think that's what he did after speaking to them And yes, I also think that he spoke to him and if you listen to the heart a heart part six on GNX I think the last part of the third verse he's kind of saying that
Starting point is 01:05:02 Okay, well it's that time of the show Wait what time of the show. I know Joe's not here, but. Wait, what time of the show? Our favorite part of the show. Favorite time of the show. What's your favorite part? Mine. Mine too. You wish you had a clock on that time.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Definitely my favorite part of the show. I wish I had what ish? A clock on that time. Yeah. It's cool. Come on, he's not here. So what? So?
Starting point is 01:05:21 You know what time it is. Now it's part of. Pranked it. Pranked it. Pranked it. Prostix. Y'all couldn't even let me do it properly? No, he said enough. So I started stumbling.
Starting point is 01:05:31 The alley-oop was in the air. We had to, you know what I mean? Prostix is your number one daily sports app in all of the land. Sports apps in all of the land. It's easy to play. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Yeah. I'm trying to get the bag. That's what I'm saying. I respect it. Yeah, all right. Thank you. But my intros have to be a little bit better. Cross's up, man? What's up, man? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, no, I'm trying to get the bag. That's what I'm saying. Oh, I respect it. Yeah, all right. Thank you. My intros have to be a little bit better.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Cross, okay, Joe, help us. Okay, they already got Drew Ski. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. On that note. Oh, take it away, Joe. They already got Tank, nigga. These stupid ass lightskin niggas, shut up.
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Starting point is 01:08:07 Wavy baby coming home real soon. All right, do we have a date yet? We got a date, I'll be out November 9th, 2025. Baby, we check money. Woo! Here we go, let's go. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:20 This the first definitive answer y'all got from me, so you already know. Look it up, it's on the computer, it's in the system. I'm good, everything is wavy, everything is on the way. The mile is the movement. We making America wavy again. How? Rob Markman Max, how your spirit, now that you got the
Starting point is 01:08:39 release date, what's your thought process of just preparing for being back out here with us? Max Jones Listen man, listen. What's your thought process of just preparing for be out back out here with us? Listen man, listen, you know, normally, normally, I'm gonna give you some real shit. Normally a nigga in my circumstances, with the amount of time I did, would be taking his time, taking turtle steps, but not the ball star, I'm diving in head first,
Starting point is 01:09:01 nigga, we wavy ass. Yeah man, it's a lot of... What's it all about, nigga? Head first. Head first, it's a lot of records out here that you missed on, bruh. It's a lot of that wave is missing. All right. Listen, man, we on divine time.
Starting point is 01:09:23 I'm working, I can't wait to get re-acimated and then here's the thing. You already know I'm a musical genius myself so niggas gotta get reacclimated with my **** So it's always gonna be the challenge. I love a good challenge and then it's for the game. I'm I'm with the game to miss it baby. I'm the trendsetter so **** I'm back nigga. I'm coming back. We're gonna we're gonna add that Max Pickle and Wade. That railway that way he got music shout out to the Don Montana what's good baby I see you
Starting point is 01:09:49 Yo Max a little silly question we outside of the obvious things that you're gonna want to partake in when you first touch down what's the one thing you looking forward to doing when you get back out? Look on some real shit just to have a nice dinner with the family, the kids, you know what I'm saying, eat, pray, love, just be around, hey have all my loved ones, all my day ones in one room. Nice. And then that shit everybody pulling up with their bags, I'm gonna go get some pussy. I told you head first nigga. Hell. I ain't bigger than that. Any artist you looking forward to working with when you touch down? Any certain people that you looking like directly want to work with?
Starting point is 01:10:42 Listen, I can't even, I'm not going to even put myself in the box. It's all going to run concurrent. I can't wait to get in the studio with a lot, there's a lot of artists out there. There's too many to name, but look, I'm going to tell you this, the big names, they're Ed Harnchoz.
Starting point is 01:10:57 I'm looking forward to working with the big names, the Ed Harnchoz. I'm not going to put myself in the box. You know what I'm saying? I'm open for all that. But they got to be A-List. I'm fucking with A- in the box. And I'm saying I'm open for all that But they gotta be a list. I'm fucking with a list So November November 9 2025, 2025, you'll be home, man.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Lock it in. And we can't wait to see you. I know that, you know, shout out to friends, shout out to everybody that's, you know, that's around and a part of the team. You sound like you in great spirits, man, and it's good to hear that. It's good to hear that you in great spirits, man.
Starting point is 01:11:44 I'm feeling righteous, I'm feeling righteous. God is good, he been holding me up. I'm clean, I'm in the gym, I'm working out, I got my weight up, I'm drinking Kool-Aid. I feel great, I can't wait. This shit gonna be beautiful, I'm trying to tell you, I'm trying to tell you, nigga, is what you been missing, the Max B movie coming soon,
Starting point is 01:12:03 nigga, shit gonna be crazy, niggas. We out here, we out here. All right, Max, all right, man. Yo, we appreciate you callin' in, Biggie Val. We appreciate you. Listen, I love the people. My was the movement, black, French. I love my niggas.
Starting point is 01:12:20 We movin', Cameron Sybil, I see you. Al, we loopy, we on the way. Don Coney, I'm comin' Sean, November 9th, 2025. Yo, Joe Budden, hold it down, nigga, I'm out. Al, wave, wave y'all, signing out. Peace. Yeah. Max B, y'all.
Starting point is 01:12:34 That's Max B, y'all. Wow. That was dope. That's dope. That's amazing, man. So, first question to Axe Biggerville. Can't wait to hear the music that he got out. Yeah, word.
Starting point is 01:12:43 That he's coming out with. Make sure you say, one of the first things he's doing though. Oh, yeah, I'm a crack some of that Oh, he got a crack 20 years not a political correction with your look good dinner my family Be clear they lining up for him they wait for My leader spot go right to the You gonna bring your camera in there He was a bro. I might leave the spot and go right to the, you know what I mean? It's coming there and you're gonna pick him up. You're gonna bring your camera in there, nigga. I'm going right there, walk on my back.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Walk on your back? Right there. You know what's so crazy, you're a pervert, son. Far from. You gotta get rid of that shit. I thought you were getting out your sister by the time you 50, nigga. You gotta pick to be a pervert or a racist. Which one? He both, nigga. I'm not either one. He time you 50, nigga. You gotta pick to be a pervert or a racist. Which one?
Starting point is 01:13:25 He both, nigga. I'm not either one. He don't discriminate, nigga. That shit is... I'm not either one. That wang wang don't discriminate, nigga. It's the wang. I like the wang.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Walk on my back. Yeah. Did you go for an update on your...on getting the laser joint? You updated it? Nah, I ain't been in a while. Oh shit, did it grow out? What are we talking about? What?
Starting point is 01:13:48 He had his bikini line lasered. Oh, wait, wait, wait. You did the bikini line too? No, no, no, no. He went, he went. He got the whole shit done. Yeah, he got the whole shit done. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Right up the butt crack. That's cruel. It's true. I see why, you right. Not when he shoot. Ayo, do your white scene, do your girl like, she be slapping your ass? Randomly and shit like that. She do that thing. You don't play no type of game all girls. Yes. Yeah, so she
Starting point is 01:14:15 You had to clean up to give us some space She hit you with the Nelly? Oh shit. I don't even know what that is. The credit card now. Oh shit. Oh, yo. You got money for your ass because it ain't your face.
Starting point is 01:14:35 You a tip drill. Oh shit. It's a tip drill? It's a tip drill. That's funny, son. That's crazy. That's what you ain't go back because you completed your whole session.
Starting point is 01:14:43 No, no, no. You supposed to go six times. Yeah. It's like permanent hair removal. Can I take because you completed your whole session. No, no, no, you're supposed to go six times. Yeah. It's like permanent hair removal. Can I take the rest of your sessions? Hold on. What? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Wait, hold on, hold on. Begging Billy. Get your ass down. What are you talking to you with, though? Please, sir. I want my ass crackling, sir. I mean, I do. Please, sir.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Can somebody touch that thing back? Can she get the rest of your sessions? I mean. Yo, man. Oh, man. I'm going to get the rest of my sessions. You know that the procrastinator right here, he ain't going. But you got six left. Procrastinating the asscrackers, crazy.
Starting point is 01:15:11 He got four left. If you don't use him, just pass one out to each member. I don't want that shit. I don't want your hand-me-down ass cleaning. Yo, you get some free landscaping on me. Use promo code. I'm going to say yo, promo code, ass-h. That's crazy. Yo, you get some free landscaping on me. Use Provo Toast. I'm gonna say yo, Provo Toast.
Starting point is 01:15:27 That's crazy. Go finish, get your shit done bro. Flip is not a priority for me, I'll keep. I'm gonna get there though. Did it hurt though? Did it hurt? Nah. They numbed you? They numbed your ass?
Starting point is 01:15:38 Oh shit, oh shit. You just gotta take pain. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You taking that white shit to another level. You just took the pain, go ahead, give it to me? It don't hurt. Lasering? They didn't put any numbing cream?
Starting point is 01:15:50 No. No, okay. You a freaky manly man right here. Yeah. You a grizzly, you know what I mean? It doesn't exactly hurt, but it just feels like little rubber bands snapping. That sound like it hurt.
Starting point is 01:16:03 That sound like, yeah, that's not. Well, you know, I'm a woman, so we have a very high tolerance for pain, so I don't really know what to say about that. Ah, you know what, let's move on now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I kind of like pain, so. Hey, yo, and dumb nigga news.
Starting point is 01:16:18 In your home town, Philly. I was about to say. Hear ye, hear ye. Yeah, you gotta defend that. Nigga did 24 years, got exonerated, won a 4.1 million dollar lawsuit, and now he's going back to jail for killing a man over $1,200 worth of cocaine. Man, round of applause for this idiot.
Starting point is 01:16:35 I don't know if that's... I don't give a fuck, man. Hey, hey, what, come on. Yo, hey, yo, hey. No, let's defend that. Mark. That's not the proper, is that what happened? Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Yes, nigga. That's what happened. Yeah. I thought it was over dice game No All of us blacks with dice course you stop man come on come back to come back home nigga. Yeah mark. What's up? I ain't got no excuse for this shit. It's stupid. I'm gonna say from Delaware some shit I don't say that. I heard you, don't say that. I'm trying to. That shit trying to slip out.
Starting point is 01:17:04 I counted the room, I was like yeah. Yeah, I'm putting that in here. Let's get it, I'm putting that nigga on that. I hate that, but I hear that story so many times. It was a dude. 24 years though, you already institutionalized. And you got four point, what do you got in playing them games?
Starting point is 01:17:16 He had, Philadelphia man who was exonerated and awarded 4.1 million settlement after serving 24 years for a wrongful murder conviction is now headed back to prison for killing a man over 20. What a dumb fuck. Over $1,200 cocaine debt. But this is the, two things I say.
Starting point is 01:17:31 One, that's a reminder that some people who are wrongfully convicted are actually just misconvicted. Like. I ain't gonna give them that. Like I didn't do that crime, but I might've killed three other people just to get the one I got exiled for or the one I didn't do.
Starting point is 01:17:42 I'm just saying, like, sometimes that's how it goes. I think after serving 24 years in jail, And that's the second part. You become an animal. It's criminogenic. It creates, it makes you criminal. But then you get a 4.1 million joint, and you go back and put it in the streets?
Starting point is 01:17:57 That's the part that's fucked up. No, that's not true, bro. That's not true. That cocaine might be for him. I ain't gonna say that. A cocaine debt? He said it was a debt. No, nigga. They could've won half of the bill, so I'm not true. That cocaine might have been for him. I ain't gonna say that. A cocaine debt? He said it was a debt. But no, nigga.
Starting point is 01:18:06 They could have won half of the best songs. They already won the jail for 24 years and you was locked up. Let's say you went to jail at 18. You only 40 something. Every nigga you know is a jail nigga. Okay. Your associations is jail niggas. So what does that mean?
Starting point is 01:18:20 You won four point one. Come on, so when you come out of jail, I'ma be around jail niggas. Well, you just said it's not true that niggas come home, get the lawsuit, and put it back in the street. If you were putting it back, if a nigga owe you money, you put the money that you got back in the street, nigga. Nigga, he might, we don't know why the nigga owe him money.
Starting point is 01:18:36 What I'm saying is him being around. $1200 for cocaine, nigga. Bullshit. I'm letting that go. I'm doubting that. $4.1 million ain't enough to keep the animal out the zoo? I am letting that $1200 go. I'm moving. That's the part. I'm letting that go. I'm doubting that. $4.1 million ain't enough to keep the animal out the zoo? I'm letting that $1,200 go. I'm moving.
Starting point is 01:18:47 That's the part that fucked me up. If we bickering over $1,200. And you got four hems. And I got 4.1 hems. And you're a fucking idiot. The nigga took it from you as principal. Nigga did 24 years. All right.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Principal should go out the window. I'm not dissing with it. I'm with you. That should definitely go out the window. That is the next contestant on Winkie. If you're a real goldie. Yeah. No bullshit. I'd. That is the next contestant or we keep it real, goes wrong. No bullshit. I'd be rooting for somebody.
Starting point is 01:19:08 I ain't not to sound fucked up. This is a dude, maybe like a year ago. This is a dude who's trying to kill my brother. And then, wait. Who was rooting for him? Let him tell you. Hold on, hold on, yeah. There's some beef on the street.
Starting point is 01:19:18 He got locked up, my brother got locked up. He's backing for him. And he ain't know where his brother is. I used to hoot with the ball. Then he found out where his brother is once he was locked up. So I was like, when he gets out, he might actually have an issue with me too.
Starting point is 01:19:28 He did 20 years, he did close to 20 years. And he got out in June. And they made him go to Pittsburgh, because they wouldn't let him be in the Philadelphia area because he'd try to break out, let's do all this other shit. Anyway, I was just like that dude, I was like, he's gonna go back to jail.
Starting point is 01:19:41 He'd been in jail for 20 years, that's the only life he know. He'll be back soon enough. My brother called me from jail about a month ago, like yo, well I can say, well's gonna go back to jail. He's been in jail for 20 years, that's the only life he know. He'll be back soon enough. My brother called me from jail about a month ago, like yo, if I could say, well, it always don't matter. He was like, nigga back. No, he's dead.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Dude was selling guns out of the cribs in Pittsburgh and the police broke in and he was like, I'm not going back and they killed him. And that's what we were banking on. Not to be fucked up, but I was like, I felt a relief. Because he tried to harm your family member. Oh, he tried, yeah, he tried to kill him. He tried to killed him. And that's what we were banking on. Not to be fucked up, but I was like, I felt a relief. Because he tried to harm your family member. Oh, yeah, he tried to kill him.
Starting point is 01:20:08 He tried to kill him. Literally, they was on 52nd Street with a shootout, right? My point is, this story is fucked up, maybe because of the exoneration part, but if you spent 20 years in jail, they're designed to put you back in jail because you get a mentality where you're probably going to end up going back.
Starting point is 01:20:23 It's too bad he wasn't like Andy Dufresne Who's that? I don't know any Shawshank Redemption. Oh Pipe and escaping and going on the island putting it down his pants. Hey Red, take your fucking Sandy ass back to camp. Nigger Red following you right, I forgot. But Red did his time. Red came home and see Black Nigger did his time, but the White Nigger escaped. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Look who you remember. All right, Andy Dufresne. Side tracking though, I was actually friend. I've never seen Shawshank Redemption. For real? Hey Mark, Mark, Mark. I'm the only, oh thank you, okay. You never saw Shawshank Redemption? No, you ain't Mark, Mark. Oh, thank you. You never see it either? No, you ain't seen it.
Starting point is 01:21:07 Oh, yeah. With jail? Yeah. OK, wait. How? I'm surprised you haven't seen it. It's like a jail reform. Really?
Starting point is 01:21:15 No, I know. I heard it's great. I own it. It's on top of my list of movies I'm supposed to see that I'm embarrassed and I didn't see. You own it and you didn't watch it? You own it and you still ain't see it? Because it's one of the movies that you keep going so long
Starting point is 01:21:23 without watching it that you're embarrassed. And then nobody will watch it with you watch the movie I know it's like not know how to play space Watchable movie she probably would she seen it like enough times that she doesn't matter what time plays face No, I know how to play. Oh, I am a spades. God. I am the best Everybody say it and I am the best space player you've right. Everybody, everybody say it until the card's on the table. I am the best space player you've ever met, like in real life. Like, like.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Okay. I'm a beast. Okay, well anyways, when Shawshank Redemption comes on TV, it doesn't matter what point of the movie is, most people will continue to watch it. It's that good. Oh, it's like that? It's that good.
Starting point is 01:22:00 All right, I'll watch it. I'll watch it, like I said, I don't play DVDs no more, but I'll watch it. Just watch it, bro. You got a lot of weird little movie things going on. Word, yo. You got a lot. I don't have a lot. I have one. I got what? Cause I didn't see Gladiator. That's one. That's weird. That's one though.
Starting point is 01:22:18 That's it. That's all y'all got. That's y'all one. And Shawshank. Shawshank. Too classy. You didn't like Last Dragon. I saw it when I was 25. Nobody likes Last Dragon who watched it as an adult. It's a fucking terrible movie.
Starting point is 01:22:29 That makes sense. We saw that y'all before. You know what it's like going to a kid's play when it ain't your kid. Right. Those motherfuckers stink. I go to them all the time and I was a teacher. They fucking suck.
Starting point is 01:22:37 You can't sing, you can't act. Shut up. It's only cute when it's your kid. All right, that's fine. He's kind of right though. Right. I'm with though. Right. I was having a conversation with somebody who's a Gen Z-er, and I was talking about
Starting point is 01:22:49 a movie, True Romance. Has anybody ever seen it? Yes. Yes. Great movie. It's fucking epic, right? I wouldn't fucking ask for it, but. Yo.
Starting point is 01:22:57 True Romance is so- What's the classic? First of all, first of all, the scene- What's True Romance? With, is it Quentin Tarantino? It's not Quentin Tarantino directed. Quentin Tarantino wrote it. Tony Scott directed it. Yes. And it has Dennis Hoffman, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott, Tony Scott,, the scene... With, it's not Quentin Tarantino directed.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Quentin Tarantino wrote it, Tony Scott directed it, and it has Dennis Hopper, Christopher Walken, Brad Pitt, James Gandolfini. But that's Brad Pitt's first movie, funny enough. No. Oh, I'm saying that, I'm saying that. I think so. Okay, anyway.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Brad Pitt was, he was doing shit as a kid. Yeah, Brad Pitt was actually a child. I came out in 1993, you get it? Yeah, fucking great movie. So I was just like, yo, I was talking to somebody from Gen Z and they were like, I have no idea about this movie. And I thought, I was like, ooh,
Starting point is 01:23:30 what kind of movie recommendations could we give to the younger generation that they have no concept of? Now that they're using our music as their fucking samples, what movies would you guys recommend to the Gen Zers who probably have no clue that even fucking exist? Pulp Fiction That's a good one. That's a good one. 1994.
Starting point is 01:23:49 We've seen Pulp Fiction, right? Pulp Fiction is gonna be trash to one of these young niggas. Really? I don't think so. It's going to pick what he just said. It's all over the place. It's written in a weird sense that they might not get. Pulp Fiction is trash. Yeah, but the scene-
Starting point is 01:24:02 No! Did you say Pulp Fiction is trash. Yeah, but the scene is in the scene. Did you say Paul Fiction is trash? If you weren't there, it was a time piece that you had to be there when it came out. I don't know, I think that's the time. I'm telling them to watch Fight Club. For sure. That's a good one.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Fight Club is great. I'm sorry, I stand corrected too. That's not Brad Pitt's first movie, sorry. Yeah. Fight Club is amazing. They gotta watch Fight Club. Yeah, he was in Thelma and Louise way before that. Yeah, he was still a kidma and Louise way before that. He was still a kid in some more stuff.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Romeo and Juliet. Oh, and I would also say Thelma and Louise. Yeah, which one? Which one? Usual Suspects, you bitch ass. Usual Suspects. Usual Suspects. Usual Suspects.
Starting point is 01:24:36 The Romeo and Juliet with Leonardo DiCaprio and Claire Danes. That was a fabulous movie. It was. Actually, I'm just talking about all the Nolan movies. Who? Christopher Nolan movies. Yeah, yeah. Memento, all that shit is fire. Memento'm just talking about shit. I'm gonna watch all the Nolan movies. Who? Christopher Nolan movies. Yeah, yeah. Lamento, all that shit is fire.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Lamento, just all of them. Everything Nolan. Man, I'm prestige. In black movies. I'm gonna be prestige as that shit. Warriors. Warriors is a classic gang movie. It's horrible.
Starting point is 01:24:55 The acting is horrible, but she'll watch it. You never saw Warriors? No. Grease. Never saw that. Grease, niggas, you said Grease. Grease is my favorite movie. What about the white movies?
Starting point is 01:25:03 Wait, you just caught me three weeks ago for like a romantic comedies, and you recommended Romeo and Juliet you say Gris? Gris is my favorite. What's like the white movie? Wait a minute, you just caught me three weeks ago for like a romantic comedies and you recommended Romeo and Juliet, fucking Gris. Gris is my favorite movie. What's your other shit, It's a Wonderful Life and shit? What's all that shit? It's a Wonderful Life, but that's all. All three of them are amazing.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Yeah. I hate Gris, I have trouble from Gris. Gris is amazing. Gris is amazing. I'm gonna get you sucker. There we go. Now let's go on the other end. How about Coming to America?
Starting point is 01:25:23 Harlem Nights. That's awesome. Well they probably started watching coming to America or they probably watched it because the most recent, coming to America 2 came out so they're like, I need context. That's fair. Then watch the other Eddie Murphy movies.
Starting point is 01:25:34 Everyone. Everyone. Every single one is good. Boomerang, go watch them all. Except maybe Vampire in Brooklyn. But everything else. And Pluto Nash, go watch that. Yeah, that don't count.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Yeah. That's like going on the wizard. That don't count. That didn't happen. Yeah, that's like Black Knight. We don't count that. Yeah. Ep don't count. Yeah. That's like doing a new isn't it? That don't count. That didn't happen. Yeah, that ain't, that's like Black Knight. We don't count that. Yeah. That for Martin.
Starting point is 01:25:48 So you watch Jamie Foxx and that Netflix special. You wanna call it a special? Stop. What would you call it? Stop, because I watched it this morning and I know what you about to do. Oh Lord. Be nice. What happened?
Starting point is 01:25:59 Be nice about what? No one else watched it, right? No. Don't. I'm going to watch it. You hit the group chat too late. No, he thought. No, I hit it, right? No, not yet. Don't. I'm going to watch it. You hit the group chat too late. No, he thought. No, I hit it right on time.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Netflix is 3 AM on the East Coast. That's why. I was still on West Coast. I know. I'm sorry. But don't waste your time. Wait, is it not funny? Or is it not comedy?
Starting point is 01:26:18 It's not. And I double checked. Because I thought maybe I'm tripping because they were saying special, special, special. So I said, OK, maybe this is just him giving this version of everything that happened. They have it listed as tearjerker, standup comedy. Yeah, I was confused.
Starting point is 01:26:35 I don't want my tears jerked in the comedy. He walks out on the stage and starts crying. Yo, the man almost died. I don't need a special for this then. So it's called What Had Happened Was. That sounds funny. Yeah, of course. He might have got overwhelmed by the.
Starting point is 01:26:48 No, no, no. He did. He did that. He cried the whole joint. Thank you. But wait. It's already nominated for a Golden Globe. OK.
Starting point is 01:26:56 It just dropped? All right, listen. I love Jamie Foxx, but it ain't that good. It ain't good. It's not good. This is a stand-up comedy special. How many times did you laugh? I didn't laugh. It's not good. This is a stand up comedy. How many times did you laugh? I didn't laugh.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Actually, I'm going to tell you when I laughed. I'm going to tell you when I laughed. When my girl called me an asshole for what I said when I cut it off. That's when I laughed. You laughed at your own jokes. I laughed at her. Did you laugh? They were laughable moments.
Starting point is 01:27:21 I do agree that I do. Well, the impersonations part was probably the funniest part. The Trump impersonation shit was funny. The part where he spoke about not wanting to date white women. No more was funny when he mentioned Cat Williams was a little funny. The cat was cool. Listen, when I watched it, it seemed like someone who honestly was like, yo, I'm really not supposed to be alive.
Starting point is 01:27:43 And I think he's still starting to pick up some of his like shit. Like you could tell he not really all the way sharp. Like he was like, hey. I'm not saying they could dance in one of the cold war for the other day. Hold on, hold on. Hey, you know what this told me?
Starting point is 01:27:54 This should have been. I thought she was dancing with Michael Jordan's son. That's what I saw. You know how comedians go out and they get the rust off? They do a couple, he shouldn't have had a special yet. He should be at the comedy store doing it. Yes, that's what I took from this.
Starting point is 01:28:08 So, cool, I'm going, and the scare happened in Atlanta. He went back to Atlanta. So he's like, you're 400 yards away, Piedmont Hospital, this is where it happened. You know, he's breaking down what happened. But he just kept saying, Atlanta, y'all got me through. Whatever the phrase, he just kept saying. The crowd started saying it for him.
Starting point is 01:28:27 It was silence. Like, this is still a comedy show. So I'm still taking it as a comedy show. Jamie Foxx is different, y'all. Jamie Foxx is different. Let's get something clear. Jamie Foxx on so many multiple levels is he's not ever just looked at as a comedian. He's looked at him as a actor, a singer. He presented all of that in a comedian. He's looked at him. He's looked at as an actor, a singer.
Starting point is 01:28:45 He presented all of that in a special. Don't get me wrong, it could have been funnier. But for someone who is trying to pick back up his thing and I think this is the perfect way to do it. Was it funny though? You said it could be funnier. Was it funny? I think, I don't think it was the funniest.
Starting point is 01:29:00 Did you laugh at all? I did laugh. I laughed at certain moments. If I have to rate it, if I have to rate it as a comedy special, it's a C special. If I have to rate it as a moment for him to get back into the world and speak, it was a great moment for him.
Starting point is 01:29:13 I'm seeing a trend with these comedians now who are doing that. Like, Chappelle did that right after Mike Brown, after George Floyd was killed, where he came outside. They called it a comedy special, but he was really kind of venting. Jared Carmichael with, Rothaniel was, I mean, I think Rothaniel was brilliant. But I didn't laugh a lot. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:29:33 It wasn't a laughing project. So I think Netflix in particular is starting to put out these projects, even though Rothaniel wasn't Netflix, they're putting out projects where it's kind of a mix of comedy and commentary and people are, they're buying the artist, not the laughs. It's shit.
Starting point is 01:29:47 I love that when it works. Funny, this didn't work for me. And like I said, all I took from it is, and this is nothing against him, because again, if you got a second chance at life, knock it out. Do you think that it's because you're not used to seeing Jamie Foxx perform in this way
Starting point is 01:30:01 as a stand-up comedian? I was just about to ask y'all, what was the last funny Jamie Foxx stand-up? The last one he had. And how many does he have that are funny? He doesn't have a lot of special series. I've seen moments of Jamie Foxx where he shined, but I'm talking about a stand-up.
Starting point is 01:30:14 All right, let's do this. I ain't seen it. I remember seeing Jamie Foxx do stand-up, and he was funny. He was funny. So I don't wanna do that. Okay. I don't.
Starting point is 01:30:24 I do think, I mean, he's on there, he had a moment where he slipped up and he was funny. He was funny. So I don't want to do that. Okay. I don't. I do think, I mean he's on there, he had a moment where he slipped up and he said, oh give me a second y'all, I did suffer from two strokes. Like he's trying to get his shit back and I think the best way to try to get your shit back sometimes is just going out there and just doing it. So you ain't got to record it and sell it.
Starting point is 01:30:41 That's my point. We've seen, we've known artists, you gotta work with them. Chappelle, Chris Rock, all of them. They tour and they do pop-up shit where they just getting back out there, fine-tuning their shit. He's not a traditional.
Starting point is 01:30:53 And then they go do a special. He's not a traditional act. And on top of that, add into the fact that people have been waiting for answers about what happened with them for quite some time. Gotta work the rooms, E. Everybody that's not a traditional act, they all go around and they work the rooms.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Yeah, we had Joe up here saying he was gonna be a comedian and he was gonna go straight to motherfucking Prudential. And we laughed him out the room. I know. Was he serious? No, no. Well, I don't know. No, I thought you were serious.
Starting point is 01:31:17 He was a little serious. Yeah. Jamie Foxx has done this. So if he wanna decide he don't wanna go work the room and maybe he's not in the shape to go work the room, I'm gonna go do me a special and go get me a bag. Cool, and then I have the right to call that out and say that that was bullshit.
Starting point is 01:31:31 I ain't seen nobody. I used to host comedy shows at the stand in New York. What didn't you do though? You did everything. I got a job. I'm Shawshank, international man of mystery. That's my wife. I ain't seen Shawshank.
Starting point is 01:31:43 A man with a thousand jackets. But like we would, me and Amanda Sayles co-hosted it, and we would, nope, nope, nope. That's his people, too, he fuck with her. That's like my sister, but we, professional comedians would come in, I'm talking about like top flight, people,
Starting point is 01:31:59 I remember one time Damon Wayans came in and kind of shut our shit down for a minute with love, like, you know, can I, you mind if I do 15? You know what I mean? And he's a pro, but he was working some new shit out. They work with him. Sometimes it hits, sometimes it don't hit when you're there. Could he have gone to Netflix or HBO at the time
Starting point is 01:32:12 and just going straight? Maybe. Yes. It probably would have been a C plus, B, but by the time he workshopped it, it was an A. It's an A. And I'd never seen a comedian not come through there and do the exact same thing. Yo, the man is not doing a normal stand up.
Starting point is 01:32:26 The man almost died. I think for him, this is bigger than just work and material. I think, yo, my fan base needs to see me again. I don't got time to try to make this a working thing. Like maybe he wanted it to be raw. Maybe the literal moment he came outside and got on that stage, he started bursting into tears. Did he seem strong and sturdy? His daughter announced him, which was fire.
Starting point is 01:32:51 His daughter introduced him to me, excuse me. The second he walked out, he didn't even say nothing to me, he just walked out and just bust out crying. I could see how that would happen. It almost make you cry. No, I could see how that would happen. He's like, I don't understand, yo, this shit feels so good. I get it. I couldn't understand that. Yeah, he's like, I don't understand, yo, this shit feels so good. Like, I get it.
Starting point is 01:33:05 I couldn't understand that. Yeah, he might have what that raw, authentic moment of, yo, I, at some point, was not supposed to be here. And the fact that I'm even being able to come on stage and stand, I got my kids here with me. He also brought out his other daughter, who played the guitar and sang with him. That, the special to me was bigger
Starting point is 01:33:22 than just him coming out there telling jokes. So does he seem like strong and sturdy, or does he still seem kind of frail? He don't seem frail, but you can tell there's still some like he couldn't walk at a certain point Like he talked about not being able to walk and then and he like he got into like some of the things about that Which was funny the moments about the nurse cleaning them up and all that stuff. So you have moments it was just like For me, it was bigger than comedy. The special for me was bigger than comedy.
Starting point is 01:33:47 It's a legend in the game now coming out and being like, hey guys, I'm back. I might not be back in the way that you might want, but I'm back. Check this out, all of y'all in closing. I'm gonna watch it. Anybody out there that think you're gonna get your favorite vice or whatever,
Starting point is 01:34:02 sit down and watch this and you and your girl or something, y'all gonna be laughing, you're not. Don't waste your edibles on it. This is not for that. This ain't for that. That's all. But salute to him. Quicker reason to get to the, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:34:14 Look, sometimes it be like this, sometimes you bomb. Speaking of which, there was a rap battle, Ice. Bombing got to do with that. I didn't see the battle, but somebody- What you said, speaking of bombing. The streets are saying that one person got- Annihilated? Yeah, that's a good word, annihilated.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Oh, shit. I'm not helping. I didn't see it. Damn, that's fucked up. They saying that about Mook, yo. I wouldn't say he got annihilated. By the way, just for the record, I went in rude for Ars to think that Ars was going to win this 3-0, but I'm hearing it didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:34:44 I wouldn't think that would happen, personally. Did you think the opposite was gonna happen? I didn't think there was a 3-0 either way. I didn't think either one of them would 3-0 each other. So what happened? I have a 2-1 Ars. But you said you wasn't there. Yeah, I watched it though.
Starting point is 01:34:56 I have a 2-1 Mook. I have a 2-1 Mook. I have the first round, Ars wrapped. I didn't expect him to come out like that first round. He said that he did. Fire. Second round he stumbled and then he choked. Automatic loss to me.
Starting point is 01:35:11 I don't care how fire your round is. And I saw my brother saying a bunch of things like, you know, if he would have got to finish and some of the other things, unfortunately he didn't. So that round is an L to me. Third round, my brother went to super disrespectful bag, which I saw people asking him to do. He even put a video up beforehand saying
Starting point is 01:35:30 Battle Rap is getting soft. Y'all act like disrespect is now a bad thing or something. No, I'm bringing it back. So I don't listen to his rounds before he battle ever. But I kind of knew that's where he was gonna go. I think the third round is the deciding round and it comes down to preference. Some people like the disrespect,
Starting point is 01:35:48 some people think he went too far with the disrespect. So it's up to how you feel about it. With Mooc and Oz, I got Mooc waiting too, one, I do. I was impressed with Oz first round, him rapping, and he did go longer than Mooc, but I was impressed by his pen. I'm like, damn, Oz sounds great. Second, you know, he choked.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Moog did great. Moog first round was great as well, and Moog second round was great. Moog had, all three of Moog rounds was great. The problem is with Oz is that he choked the second round, and the third round, the disrespectful shit just turned me off. Because in my mind-
Starting point is 01:36:24 And the battle rap, why? See, some people don't round, the disrespectful shit just turned me off. Because in my mind, I'm- In the battle rap, why? Some people don't want to hear that shit. He goes different with the disrespect, yo. But I can tell you why, because he did so well. We know Oz talks about family members. I seen him do it. Yeah, but Oz did so well in the first
Starting point is 01:36:38 that I thought that he was going to get away from that, me. I didn't see the video he did before. I just thought he was going to get away from that. I'm like, damn, Oz is killing it. I felt like- So you wanted to see more of that. before. I just thought he was gonna get away from that. I'm like, damn, Austin's killing it. I felt like he- So you wanted to see more of that. Yeah, I felt like he didn't have to go that way. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:36:50 And then when he did it, I mean, it's Moog Mubba. I know Moog. I met his family. So it hits different. A lot of people in the building, we was doing the Rewind Show with Lux. A lot of people in the building, everybody felt the same thing.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Maybe it's because we all knew Moog, but it just didn't feel good. Oh, my God. Oh, that's interesting.'t feel good. And then after he did that, niggas to me it was like, come on, you just lost that round. I just felt like all stood away. And in my mind it's like, nigga, you waited all these years to do that.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Like it's a bigger picture. Like you waited all these years to get in front of Muke, how long you wanted to battle Muke to just do that at the third, when you did great in the first, so it just, left a side with Tase. That's a good point. But if that's what people know from,
Starting point is 01:37:30 I'm confused by that because when I watch Arce, I want to see that. That's what he is. That's what he excels at. So I want to see him mix it up. So yeah, if he did the first round and he went rap, cool. I gave y'all something different. Now balance it out and give me what we know
Starting point is 01:37:46 you to be attached to. And my show came out the first round with the disrespect and then rapped in the third. But either way. Whatever, either way. Look, it's gonna work against him either way. If I come out in the first round doing that, I'm turning everybody off already.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Because again, like Flip said, we all know Moog. Like, damn, his moms, like you doing that to him. People are gonna get that bad taste in they mouth. Like yo, you, cause he went, yo, he. Nah, I seen the clip. But Flip also said, yo, I was shocked that he really rap, rap, rapped in the first round. And I was like damn, he really came in gunning.
Starting point is 01:38:17 Yes. So I think, you know what I think a part of it is too? Niggas is getting older, yo. Like that shit that you used to do 15 years ago that we laughed at and thought was disrespectful, it don't hit the same. Niggas is getting older, yo. Like that shit that you used to do 15 years ago that we laughed at and thought was disrespectful, it don't hit the same because niggas is really out here losing people. So now the shit that you got away with when we was young
Starting point is 01:38:33 and then we ain't feel no type of way, now niggas is losing their family members, now niggas is losing their brothers and their cousins and their aunts, and the nigga lost their mother and you came in talking about the nigga moms, it hit different now. But at the same time. Oh, let me finish. It hit different in your 40s. When we was 27, about the nigga moms, it hit different. But at the same time. Oh, let me finish.
Starting point is 01:38:45 It hit different in your 40s. When we was 27, that shit was cool, it was cute. Oh, you heard what he said? Now niggas is 40. It hit different. Nah, I don't rock with that either. We watched him go up against the cat in London, who just lost like a, oh, 10 years ago.
Starting point is 01:39:02 I'm just saying, direct, a recent loss. Like a couple days before. I was like, yo, I ain't gonna say nothing about your mother, nigga, fuck that bitch. And it just went off. And that's a classic moment. Yeah, that's crazy. Like it's just battle rap.
Starting point is 01:39:15 Like, and- I get it. But we saw what happened when they talked about Moog's mother with Bridge Rawstein and T-Top. We saw the big fight on the Amber Zero stage. We see how important it was to move, or how important it is to move. And also, with Oz, I just felt like it was ego shit.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Like, to me. Like, Oz didn't have to do it. When Oz rapped in the first, I just felt the third, man, he just did it to say that nobody gonna tell me what to do. I'm gonna do what I want to do. That was just pure ego, man. N***a, Oz impressed us, n***a. Lux looked at me like, yo, flip. Oh, n*** do, I'm gonna do what I wanna do. That was just pure ego, man. Because he was, nigga, awes, impressed us, nigga. Lux looked at me like, yo, flip, oh, shit, I was like this, that's awes?
Starting point is 01:39:49 Talking like that? It was amazing, man. No matter what, the general consensus that I saw online was that Moog won. That's what I heard. I expect that. You just think they wrong. Nah, I mean, not even just that,
Starting point is 01:40:01 I just think battle rap, again, is subjective, what you wanna see from me. So, that, I just think battle rap, again, is subjective, what you want to see from me. So, I expected the disrespect, I like the disrespect. You come from that. But even with the disrespect, have you disrespected him and you rapped better? You rapped better. You just think he didn't have a shot.
Starting point is 01:40:19 I don't think once he got to the disrespect and the people was turned off by that, because it's like, aw, you went there, come on, dog. And like Flip said, we know what happened last time. It was over, it was over. It was in Detroit, the crowd wasn't feeling it, people started leaving. Well, you see what time it was too,
Starting point is 01:40:36 niggas was ready to get the fuck out of there, that battle started dumbly. But shout to everybody anyway, they're going to try it all over that rap. I'm serious. It's good to have a good car though. I heard the rest of the car was good too. Shout out to Cal.
Starting point is 01:40:49 People been talking about how bad rap and kinda struggling a little bit but. Shout out to Calico man. Calico put together a great car, shout out to Cal. For sure. Shit, we had some other little beef going on in the industry too. What?
Starting point is 01:41:02 Yeah, DJ Mustard went ahead and put your boy, boy wonder on a summer jam tour. He aint like what he had to say. So I guess apparently you know boy wonder had actually messaged him at some point in the midst of the beef when Not Like Us dropped and shouted him out like yo dope joint boom boom. Beat is crazy. But a recent boy wonder has been making it very clear, like, nigga, we don't really fuck with, I'm on Drake's side, so some people made comments and said whatever, whatever, and he's kinda making it a stance, like, well, we ain't fucking with that shit,
Starting point is 01:41:36 Toronto, we ain't fucking with none of that shit. So DJ Mustard went ahead and made it very clear, like yo, why you making this a America Toronto type of thing and started posting up the message, the DM. The receipts. The little receipts. It was more than one message. Shit.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Do you need more than one message? If a nigga, if a nigga. The name is hard nigga, stop it. If a nigga came out with some fire shit, I'm like, oh you caught that. Yeah, but now I see it. We still on your ass. Yeah, but you can't do that in private. Yeah, but you're congratulating the Ops.
Starting point is 01:42:05 Yeah, you can't congratulate me in private and then now when the song is doing what it's doing, you want to make us dance like fuck that record. Well, I don't know. I don't think niggas thought it was going to do what it did. That's it, right. I don't think niggas thought it was going to turn into what it turned into.
Starting point is 01:42:20 So I think that it could have been a mistake in judgment. I see how that can happen. But if Boy wanted to know he did that in the DM, why not just shut up and not respond to it? Because you might not think, it's past that point now. And not just that, you might not think niggas is on that screenshot message type shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:35 Like everybody don't move like that. That's true. He probably forgot that he did that. Oh yeah, he could have forgot. Once that shit got serious, it's like, oh damn. And then now we gotta choose up. It ain't rap no more It's past rap. So now I got to choose now Drake suing niggas and shit. He's on Drake side, you know, you see the effect
Starting point is 01:42:51 Yeah, nobody knew that was gonna have that effect initially. I hate that. It's making producers have to like Yeah, cuz boy one didn't work with Kendrick before and mustard should be able to work with like I hate that They having to take that little stand Kendrick is calling outard should be able to work with, like I hate that they having to take that little stance. Kendrick is calling out Mustard name on records nigga. And Mustard already chose his side. Yo where the fuck, somebody, it was, somebody showed a party. They was at like a party party, like some bougie shit. And the whole, the girls was in there like.
Starting point is 01:43:19 Don't say party party no more like that. Some girls was in there like, Mustard! Like the women baddies was just screaming. I'm like, it was like at a gala. I was like, dang. They tried to do that at the next game. They had a little joint where the people, someone was taping them coming through the walkway
Starting point is 01:43:35 and was asking the players, you know, when you say Mustard on the beat, what comes right after it? And a few players was like, nah, I don't fuck with Kendrick. I'm on Team Drake. Like it's to the point where they're making you decide at this point what side you stand on,
Starting point is 01:43:47 even down to the damn basketball. Oh, I've seen that clip. Yeah, I've seen that. It's weird, yeah. It's weird. It's weird. It's weird. Y'all out here, like y'all ready to die for this shit.
Starting point is 01:43:55 Y'all don't know none of these niggas. Word. Some of y'all know them, but I'm just saying, nigga, just be fair. If you don't like the song, you don't like it. If you like it, you like it. It's not that big a deal. Hey, I'm trying to find this video real quick
Starting point is 01:44:05 with a Yankees fan stood outside of the Met Stadium and was cursing out, Oh, Waka Wansoto. He said, look at this piece of shit street. That street is mad over there. That's a bad street. He said, this is the shit street. You left that for this?
Starting point is 01:44:21 Nigga, that shit hasn't been the funniest. He was so mad. You left that for this piece of shit. Look at this street. I funniest thing. He was so mad. You left that for this piece of shit? Look at the tree. I'm like, that's quick. That's an area where it's fixed. That is a nasty thing. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:44:31 Your people fix the car for like $20. Nigga, fix the brakes. Stop. Because they do. Niggas go there. And they fix them up low. They right there by Yankee Stadium, too. That's racist, bro.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Yeah. How's it racist? How's it racist? How is it racist? Who fixing the cars? Uh oh. His people. Tell me who my people is. Tell me.
Starting point is 01:44:51 Tell me. We gotta stop. Delgado. Stereotypes is real. We gotta stop. Stereotypes is real. Marcos will agree with me. Stereotypes is real.
Starting point is 01:45:00 Don't be a hypocrite. They weld the mufflers together. They just make a whole muffler out of nothing. Scratch parts. You want to extend the muffler? That shit go, da da da da da da. And it's playing. But how do you, you into sports, y'all guys into sports.
Starting point is 01:45:21 How does that, what does this mean that Juan Soto signed with the Mets? Well, hold on, can we make it clear if people don't know, Juan Soto, Juan Soto was a part of the Yankees, they didn't have the money to keep him there, he went over the bridge and went to the New York. They had the money, it was cool, they had the money, they didn't pay. It was 5 million, but it was, Juan Soto signed a 7765 million contract for 15 years. From what I'm hearing. Round of applause actually. That's a lot of fucking money.
Starting point is 01:45:49 That's a lot of money. And there's incentives too. Long way from making mufflers, huh? Yeah, I want more baseball bats for my girls sons. We about to learn, we going outside now. I was like, yo, that shit was crazy. Initially they said it was over $5 million, which it kind of was,
Starting point is 01:46:02 but it was also like the structure of the deal. Like he got a $75 million signing bonus from the Mets. Come on. Yeah, 75 million dollar signing bonus That's I mean, it's he got a great deal I think was idiotic move to leave the Yankees to go to the med Why well one because now you up in the shithole of a stadium with this terrible franchise I don't like the Yankees either. So I'm the most objective. I hate both of them.
Starting point is 01:46:28 Terrible franchise? The Mets? They weren't that bad this year. When are y'all paying Bobby Bonilla? I'm just telling you. Holy shit. They've been bringing up some shit for 30 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:37 They still paying him right now. Listen, hey, yo, it wasn't from 20 years ago. Listen, old nigga, Shea Stadium is going to City Field now. City Field is nice. Yeah, City Field is nice. That's a nice high stadium. How are your stadiums over there, nigga? Big upgrade.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Morning Holes, Miller Holes in your fucking stadium over there, Philly. That's a nice stadium over there. Better than Shea? Yes. City Field is nice. City Field is really nice. Nigga, you ain't been to the baseball game since you was six and you went one of them scare straight programs.
Starting point is 01:47:03 I was there. Get on video. You've been to the baseball game since you was six and you went one of them scare straight programs. I'm gonna make that, I'm gonna make that. Get on my own. Did wifey let you on the ground, nigga? Big brother, big sister took him over there. This show was a part of life. Did you bring wifey to the game? I didn't go to the game.
Starting point is 01:47:15 All right, yeah, nigga. What are you talking about? Because she ain't let you go, nigga. I don't need to go. I don't wanna go to the game. I'm Jesus when it come to that, nigga. What are you talking about? You can't go outside, I can't.
Starting point is 01:47:23 I don't wanna go outside, I'm good. You do? I can go inside, I can go back home though, you can't go outside. I can't. I don't want to go outside. I'm good. You do? I can go inside. I can go back home though. You can't. I can go back home though, nigga. I'm always in the house. And you don't recognize that motherfucker. You always got 10 new sofas in that bitch.
Starting point is 01:47:32 And you walking around the- You live in a fucking showroom. That's your trap. And you walking around- That's how I am. And you walking around the- And I'm not yet. He don't like that shit. Not yet. And you walking around the mall with suits and shit on, nigga. And you walk around like an undercover cop, man.
Starting point is 01:47:40 I am. You walk around like a undercover cop, man. I am. I am. I am. I am. I am. I am. I am. And you walking around the mall with suits and shit on. And you walk around like an undercover cop, man. I am. I'd rather be drunk as I am.
Starting point is 01:47:51 You that old nigga that think he still look young. Hello fellow young people. What's up young people? Let me get two weeds. You look like a nerd. I am. Go to church and behave yourself, my nigga. You lost this battle. I'm not trying to have a battle with you.
Starting point is 01:48:07 I know how it feels to be a nigga on lockdown. I'm not on lockdown. I can't relate. I can go outside anytime I want. I can go outside when I want. No you cannot. I like my house. And make sure you put gas in the fucking car too nigga.
Starting point is 01:48:18 Make sure you put gas in the car too. I live in Jersey nigga, we don't put gas in the car. What is this battle about again? I don't understand. I don't know. I just talked about the Mets. I'm just talking about I don't know. I just talked about the Mets. I'm talking about wine, soda, and shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:30 Yeah. 21 Jump Street over here just jumped in. One more. 21. The Mets started off bad last year. How much time do you take your shit to the cleaners, nigga? Loosing your shit up, boy. Stop spraying your shit with starch.
Starting point is 01:48:40 All right. Come on, ass nigga. You can't lose slip jeans at all, dog. Yes, I can. You can't. You over who's jeans is tighter right now. This shit is starting to fire when you walk. Nig you got on my foot is it Levi's nigga you bush Come on. I got the same brand Levi's you can't buy man Levi's nigga stop watching it shit Nigga get some new jeans. I'm up. Okay. That's my man. Congratulations the one I love this guy. The most lucrative deal in sports history.
Starting point is 01:49:23 I'm talking about the Mets. Yeah, so he signed this great deal. The football players. It's amazing, man. $765 million is a lot of money. A lot. He said he has the potential to meet eight and change. But here's what.
Starting point is 01:49:34 Is he that good, guys? Yes. No, he's tough. He's very good. No, no. To me, he's nice. And he's young. I don't know if he that.
Starting point is 01:49:41 Is he better than the Japanese dude? His trajectory is so. No, no, no. Fuck no. He's going up. He's going upward. But like how much money is enough? Like if I'm looking between 700, 750, 800. Hey Martin, come in here with your bullshit.
Starting point is 01:49:54 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen to what I'm saying. Come in here with your bullshit. When I'm done, y'all all gonna agree with me. So before y'all get mad, y'all not. I just wanna hear you out. I'm saying that if I have a chance to be, everybody's gonna give over 700 million.
Starting point is 01:50:06 True, okay. So if I have a chance to go to a franchise that is a position for success, or one that doesn't seem to be, I'm not gonna let $5 million be the difference between. What if I have a problem with something over here at this franchise? I want to be the man here, but Judge is here,
Starting point is 01:50:23 and I can't be the man. But there's 29 of them. I'm saying there's a lot of places he can go. What if I want to be the man here but Judge is here and I can't be the man? But there's 29 of them. I'm saying there's a lot of places he can go. What if I enjoy New York, I've been here long enough, that's one. I like the Yarmouz. What if I watch this organization start the year bad and actually still work their way back into the good spot, into the playoffs, I could think that bringing my potential over would only help this organization.
Starting point is 01:50:44 And I submit my legacy a little bit more by being able to do that with an organization like the Mets. I don't want to drive the room with all the sports, but I'll just say this. If you got 750 M's, there's Yamines everywhere. There's no shortage of Yamines for 750 million dollars. It turns out his legend, like he said, I love New York.
Starting point is 01:50:59 I don't give a fuck. You can be in Spokane, you can be in Idaho. Not Boston Heights. Listen, but if I bring a championship to New York, that's something totally different. To the Mets. To the Mets. Yeah, and that's what Kawhi Leonard said about the Clippers.
Starting point is 01:51:12 That's what everybody says. That's the way I disagree with your point. I think that if you're thinking about legacy, you fuck with the Yankees. Right. That's what I think. I think that if Soto goes on to stay with the Yankees for six, seven years and they get results,
Starting point is 01:51:27 he goes down as one of them. So A-Rod ain't duck the smoke because Jeter was already cemented as the man. I'm still gonna go there and we both gonna be the men. Some niggas don't want that. Some niggas wanna. That was Kawhi Leonard. He said, I don't wanna be a Laker, I wanna be a Clipper.
Starting point is 01:51:44 Some niggas want they own spot. How'd that work out for him? said, I don't want to be a Laker, I want to be a Clipper. Some niggas went there on spot. And look how that worked out for him. Yeah, because you can't be the man when you're on the same team as Jeter. Number three setting. I'd rather be A-Rod on the Yankees than... A-Rod was the man. I'm just telling you what number three said.
Starting point is 01:51:55 First year that nigga got there, give me that MVP. Yeah, I'd rather be that. Because on the Mets, I mean, the Mets are playing well. They betch only beat the Phillies this year, but I don't... And they got to always go spend more. He spends bread. He spends bread. But they dump a lot of bread and they always end up losing again.
Starting point is 01:52:07 It's not like the Red Sox or the Yankees, the other teams that dump bread and win. I just don't trust the Mets. That's a lot of organizations. Have the Mets ever won a championship? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, 1980... 1985?
Starting point is 01:52:18 1986? So you're saying, that team was amazing. In 1986. Yeah. Ronald Reagan was president. Strawberry, Gooden, Dykstra, Wally Backman. There was so much cocaine. Gary Carter.
Starting point is 01:52:28 So much cocaine was in that fucking coke. That's when the coke and the crack was on. They all did cocaine. Took a good little... Lied them up. Lied them up. I miss them days, man. You was doing crack back then?
Starting point is 01:52:41 You was doing crack back then? No, just with my favorite athletes. Oh, you was like, I miss them days. Like, you was missing the... No, no, no, I never did crack. But I just love when my athletes..., just with my favorite athlete thing. Oh, you was like, I missed them days. Like, you was missing the youth. No, no, no, I never did crack. But I just love when my athletes, you know, I just missed the old school days. I don't even like how you said that.
Starting point is 01:52:50 That's how it's crazy. You mean, stop talking. No, no, no. I made too much money to smoke crack. Crack is cheap. I get it. You breathed past that too quick, my nigga. It works.
Starting point is 01:52:57 LT was going crazy. I was like, what? LT? LT? I don't know what the hell it's going on. Come on, you all right, Mo? Lieutenant Dan, you good? Yo, is it crazy that I said to somebody, yo, I ain't gonna lie, I never did no
Starting point is 01:53:11 hardcore drug like that, but if I'm on my deathbed, I'm doing me some coke and some crap. You gonna do crap with my one? I gotta see. I'm going straight to heroin. Yeah, I ain't gonna hold you. If I'm on my deathbed, we out of here. Give me a drug, Neapolitan, mix that shit up.
Starting point is 01:53:23 I need to fit with mine. Oh man, yeah. What? What you doing? Put a little bit of fit in there. Oh, you want fit in there too, right? Yeah, yeah, oh nobed we oughta hear me. Give me a drug Neapolitan mix that shit up I need to fit with mine. Oh man. Yeah, what what you doing a little bit of fit in there? Oh, you won't fit no Oh, no, we want to the top man. Okay to the deathbed doesn't sound lit. You're gonna be just like I think heroin is the way to go that I'm trying to go Yeah heroin yep yep yep yep Niggas is picking a drug of choice for the death What you gonna do Flip?
Starting point is 01:53:53 I don't know ecstasy Hit your button you hit him Oh ecstasy You never did ecstasy before? Nah Neither have I Me either I just I know y'all be outside You did a lot of shit
Starting point is 01:54:04 I have never done ecstasy. You are, you are sick bro. Yo, this nigga said I know y'all be outside. If you be outside all the time, ecstasy is like a business. Nah, I didn't do it. You did Molly though, before. I've never. You did Molly, right?
Starting point is 01:54:16 Nope. Get the fuck out. I don't do drugs. I've never done none of the drugs. You did Perks? I don't do drugs. You from Philly, you definitely did Perks. I knew you was going to go to that Philly shit.
Starting point is 01:54:24 You did, nigga. Yeah, I'd just be on Segal Street just doing percs and violence. Perk 30s, too, the big joints. I don't do drugs, only weed. You mixed pride with your rope of tussoon or something? You did something. No, man. I don't even do rope of tussoon. I never did none of that shit.
Starting point is 01:54:36 I tried to do that shit before. I'm boring as hell. Hey, yo, I tried to, I'm so corny. I tried to mix diamond tap with red bull before and call it like purple. That's stupid shit, making a thing. All right. And just go into this trip, come club trying to make it catch on.
Starting point is 01:54:48 Call it purple bull. That bull shit. I had a logo and everything. Oh, you was trying to? Holy shit. You probably got the children's Dime Attack too. With a little dose of that shit. I had the neck bullshit.
Starting point is 01:54:58 That shit was good. Dime Attack used to be good. See, that's the detriment of rap music. What? What's the devil? Hey, you bold ass nigga. Watch your fucking mouth, nigga. Dime Attack? What you trying to do back in the day, nigga? See that's the detriment of rap music What you trying to do back in the day Get money that's true. I tried it didn't catch all is
Starting point is 01:55:25 Happen red bull I did I was stumbling own fuck. Dime a tap make you sleepy. Where would you- I be fucked, yo. I'm about to blow up. Right. Fuck. I don't know what I'm looking for. Oh shit, we lit. So regular flip. Yeah, man. That's what you want now.
Starting point is 01:55:34 Wait, that's why you like that now. That's why you like that. I'm still stuck. You still dime a tap. I called it, I'ma show you the logo. I called it Purple Bull, nigga. I'ma show you the logo too, but I found it. We good though, fam.
Starting point is 01:55:44 Yo, we straight. Nah, that's how you get these bums. That's how show you the logo too. But I find it. We good though, fam. We straight. That's how you get these bums. That's how we bump. That's it, that's it. If anybody did that, so what? Nigga, support me, I'm your friends. Never.
Starting point is 01:55:52 Yeah, nigga. I'm not supporting you with no bullshit. What was wrong? It's kind of peddling drugs to people, still. Fake purple. My fault. What year was this? He tried to make the NA. Yo, let me ask you.
Starting point is 01:56:07 What made your brain think to do that? Cause he couldn't get lean. Cause I can't go in the Vimz and buy a sweatsuit. Oh shit. Oh shit. All right. Wow. Fuck you.
Starting point is 01:56:17 Yo, listen, sometimes when you see the lean and you heard niggas drinking it and see how they act. I just wanted to be there. You want to be cool. I didn't want to follow them. I want to come with my own shit, but it didn't catch on It was stupid. Yeah, you're lean. They make them lean. You're lean Two type of diamond taps to it was a full great one that was good But I always fucked him about the other one with that
Starting point is 01:56:47 Remixes you did on drugs, man Trying to smoke some fucking you did Some shit you wrote some bull show some oregano you look like the nigga Sniff chalk That's what the sped is kids did it. I was in those classes to sniff chalk. Look at me. I was in the Sped Ed classes and sniffing. Sped Ed? Sped Ed.
Starting point is 01:57:12 Are you sure? That might have been a respecter. Signs you were in special ed. Sign number one, you call it Sped Ed. We call it Sped Ed. You put a D on special. Yeah. We call it spitted in the hood, Mark. This nigga spelled special and wrong. You can't put a D on special.
Starting point is 01:57:33 That's what they call it. You know what's wrong with it? Hey, yo. Hey, yo, Mark, how much time you got bullied as a kid? Listen to that. The niggas picked on you, didn't they? And your wedgies and all that, nigga. Nah, man, I can fight.
Starting point is 01:57:43 Look at you. I was really good at fighting. I had a problem. You wasn't good at fighting. Okay. They told me already. You was not good at fighting, nigga. Okay, who's that? In Philly, nigga.
Starting point is 01:57:50 When I was out there just now, nigga, at your bookstore, nigga. You sound dumb to say that right now. That nigga said you- I was in your bookstore and they said you couldn't fight. Yeah. That's a sped-ed, dog. That's a sped-ed bad story, dog.
Starting point is 01:58:01 Dog, dog. I picked up Oedipus and asked him how your knuckle getting worn. I said, but, wait, hold on, hold on. Say it again, I can't hear you. I want to get you individually. I want to get you individually. What book you picked up?
Starting point is 01:58:15 Oedipus. What is that? Yo, you good, dog? What's in there for the book, Aish? Nothing, you good, yo. Holy shit, man. Oh. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, my gracious, yo.
Starting point is 01:58:29 Y'all niggas getting picked on. I can tell y'all niggas got picked on. Oh. All y'all niggas. You niggas that over-laugh and shit. What's the name of the book I picked on again? Oedipus. Oedipus.
Starting point is 01:58:37 You thought it was poor book. Yo, it's good. You good, dog. Holy shit. Yeah, man. You can do this next time. Wait, now you're trying to make his own lean. Right. I'm a tattletale. You're a tattletale. Yo, it's good. You good, dog. Holy shit. Nigga, you can do this next time. Wait, now he's trying to make his own lean.
Starting point is 01:58:46 Yeah. It's diamond. He's laying lap. Yo, see? See? It's Web & Nitty, yo. You're trying to be the new Web & Nitty in Queens. Yo.
Starting point is 01:58:56 Oh, shit. This nigga was in Spare That. Oh, boy. Y'all all right? Funny, bro. Y'all okay? He said Spare That. We got a lot of bullshit in our eyes. I'm told I'm not gonna hold you, yo. We called it out in the hood. A T-shirt coming. Y'all alright? Funny, sir. Y'all alright? And it says, bad egg. We get a lot of bullshitting around.
Starting point is 01:59:05 I'm telling y'all. We called it. I'm not gonna hold you, yo. We called it in the hood. A t-shirt coming. Oh, that's definitely a t-shirt. A t-shirt coming. They gotta be Jersey and Philly niggas together, nigga.
Starting point is 01:59:15 Oh, god. And then we called it that, niggas. Which is it. Which y'all like in the basement? Know what y'all called? Know what y'all called? Know what y'all called it to? What?
Starting point is 01:59:23 Put niggas in the back hut. Yo, he's what? Nah, I'm with you. For a frog, I'm with you. For a frog, I'm in a back hut. Yo, he's one. Nah, I'm with you. Fur fries with you. Fur fries? Yeah. Ooh. Hey, yo, man.
Starting point is 01:59:33 Yo, man, get your shit off. Get your shit off, man. Get your shit off. It's all right. Fur fries, right? I'm with Fur fries. You say fur fries so clearly, man. Chocolate milk.
Starting point is 01:59:41 You say chocolate milk. The gra- Y'all ain't on that nasty pizza. Gwakwakas? Yeah. So clearly Yo, you the best I go hold you you the best We should have made a'all good? Y'all finished? Y'all got it all out? Yeah we did. You made a lot of that pizza too it's cool. What the aluminum shit? Came out the aluminum shit? Nah I didn't eat it. They ain't having his class.
Starting point is 02:00:16 They had their old office and washing machines and shit. I'ma keep it real. That's why he's the back making them drinks. I went to a private school though. For real. I was like, you know, what I'm saying is that For special kids. I went to a private school.
Starting point is 02:00:34 With a sped ass. I went to a private school. I believe you. It was for certain kinds of kids. It was mad private. It was like 12 of them. Who I see in the back? At the time I went to Yo son, it was mad private. Yo. It was like 12-12. At the time I was young. Everybody wore helmets, they had no team.
Starting point is 02:00:50 I can't hear y'all. Y'all don't talk. That helmet can't fit your head, nigga. What the fuck you talking about, nigga? You can't wear a helmet, nigga. What the fuck you talking about? You had the fucking space cone. Hey, you, Ish, stop playing, Ish. You walking into all this shit, dog.
Starting point is 02:01:05 Oh, man. What did the vehicle look like that picked you up for school? Oh, shit. Oh, just checking. My mom dropped me off. That's number one. Number two. And that shit made noise, too, because they used to hear me
Starting point is 02:01:15 coming down the block. So it made noise. She had me in a Nova, some bullshit. But anyway, fuck y'all niggas. In closing. No, no. In closing. No. Fuck y'all niggas. Isch,. In closing. No, no. In closing.
Starting point is 02:01:25 No. Fuck y'all niggas. Each of you, I'm going to get you back today. I'm going to get you. No, you my man. I'm on your side. Nah, you ain't on my side. I'm always on your side.
Starting point is 02:01:33 That jersey for the niggas to get together. I got you, son. Frif-Fry, right? Frif-Fry. I hate to chalk too, right? Pace. Yeah, yeah, I know. Pace smell like mint.
Starting point is 02:01:41 How you know that? It's hard as shit. Holy shit. All right, Mel, take it away. I mean, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know. They smell like mint. How you know that? It's hard as shit. Holy shit. All right, Mel, take it away. I mean, I don't know if I want to ruin everybody's fun. Please do.
Starting point is 02:01:52 Well, I don't have no choice. We need to ruin this one a little bit. Yeah, we don't have a choice. OK, well, we discussed the Daniel Penny case, I think on the last pod. The jury had basically gotten together. They were going to decide his fate. Well, they've spoken, and they acquitted him
Starting point is 02:02:11 on all fucking charges. Shocker. Shocker. Yeah. So. America. America. America.
Starting point is 02:02:18 Yeah. So anyways, apparently applause erupted in the courtroom after the verdict was read and he had a big old smile on his face. There was fights outside though. There was fights outside and apparently quote unquote some BLM leader has called for vigilante-ism in this situation. Harkness-ism.
Starting point is 02:02:40 Yeah, it's a mess. It's a little bit of a mess. This whole case was like a referendum on mental illness Homelessness as far as I'm concerned race. I just feel like in this circumstance. Let's just say the Jordan Ely was white. I feel like the chokehold would not have resulted in death because it just the perception of you know People yeah, I'm not gonna hold you. It affected me a little bit. I got a little more emotional than I thought I would. Me too.
Starting point is 02:03:10 And y'all know I don't be really rocking with the whole, this was a racism case. Like it was that. I think that it's easy to look at black men and fear us and almost look at us in an animalistic light. You know what I'm saying? So I think even the jury didn't look at it like he killed the person.istic light. You know what I'm saying? So I think even the jewelry didn't look at it like he killed the person.
Starting point is 02:03:28 I agree. You get what I'm saying? Like I don't even think they considered it to be like that. I think that if it was a black man that choked a white man, he'd be locked up right now. A thousand percent. I also think that if it was a white man choking another white man to your point,
Starting point is 02:03:40 he would have let him go. Yeah. I agree. Once he would have lost consciousness, he would have let him go. I heard people talk about, and what the news does, they'll go get a black man on purpose to defend that shit. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:03:55 And so they found as many as they could, and they had a couple black dudes that was defending them saying, yo, he kinda didn't know. Fem, if you are trained, and you've been choking somebody for six minutes, my nigga ain't gonna die. You know.
Starting point is 02:04:09 Like that's just it in a matter of speaking. I just think that it was a racial case. And y'all know where I stand on racism all the time. Everything don't be racial. This was racial. The jury was racial. I understand where the deliberation shit came from when they was talking about the mistrial the first time.
Starting point is 02:04:24 I don't understand how we even arrive here. So basically he killed somebody, got off for free. He had absolutely zero remorse because they showed him in bars right after they left. Him and his lawyers was out at bars celebrating, laughing, joking and all that other shit. My nigga, if this just happened to me, I'm taking my ass home.
Starting point is 02:04:45 Like I'm gonna go home, I'm gonna chill. Again, you escaped something, you know what I'm saying? So I'm not gonna be out and about. You still took somebody's life. So whether you got locked up for it or not, you should still be remorseful and you should have some grief. And I think he didn't exhibit any of that
Starting point is 02:04:58 and I think that shit is trash. And I don't understand the jury not, like you said, like not having any kind of empathy for Jordan Neely. Like I'd be interested to have heard like the prosecution's case. He's a jury of his peers. I know. His peers. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what the jury was comprised of,
Starting point is 02:05:14 like race-wise, age-wise, gender-wise. I don't really know. His lawyer went on count saying basically, and he said it sarcastically, it was definitely a jury of his peers. Yo I'm tired of people having all this compassion after the fact. He's dead now. He ain't here. So even when we have these conversations I remember last part I think I'm not sure everybody had the same thing but Ice you were very big on yo. Listen shit going on I'm out of my bed. These are the moments when it's like,
Starting point is 02:05:45 yo, don't mind your fucking business. That train is packed with people. Cool, I get it. Let's just say Homeboy was bugging. And Homeboy subdued him to whatever degree. There's enough people in there to say to that. Ease up. You did enough.
Starting point is 02:06:01 Yo, dog, you got him. Yo, that minding your business shit, it's the hypocritical shit that I see. Because the moment when he needed the real help and really needed people speaking for him and helping him, no one had nothing to say. Whoever was there. I like, I start looking at those.
Starting point is 02:06:17 I wanna know who those people are. That you can sit there and watch somebody. I can't, I'm sorry. If somebody else got on. Don't get me wrong, I know there's moments where I probably should, mama, but I can't watch nobody get choked out like that for no apparent real reason and then sit there
Starting point is 02:06:30 and then go home and feel okay. Me, as a man, I just can't do that. Let me reply, because I am big on the mind your business culture. And I'm with you there, sitting there watching something. That's not mind, to me, that's not minding your business where you just sitting there watching. You're still playing some role. You're a spectator now. watching something, to me that's not minding your business where you just sitting there watching.
Starting point is 02:06:45 You're still playing some role, you're a spectator now, you're watching, you know what I mean? And when I say mind my business, I'm getting off, I'm leaving, I'm one of them type of, I don't want no parts of none of this because getting involved in something can lead to, we've given examples, just getting involved could lead to charges for you, could lead to you getting killed,
Starting point is 02:07:10 because you didn't mind your business. Unfortunately, that's the world that I live in because again, my number one objective, hey, call me whatever name y'all want, is to make it home. I understand that. So that's it. I just wanted to address that part though.
Starting point is 02:07:24 In those situations, it's easy to walk away. Yeah, I would go home and honestly feel like, damn, there's something I could have possibly done, even to the smallest extreme. Yo, that's enough. To make sure that that- Right, start pulling him off the board if you got to. I used to see that guy.
Starting point is 02:07:40 I tell people all the time, I used to see that guy all the time. And he was like really diminutive too, right? Like kind of frail and thin. I didn't see him towards the later years of his life, but when I used to go to Manhattan and walk around and just want to write, I would walk and you would see him out as a Michael Jackson impersonator all the time. Like anybody that's been out in Times Square, you've seen that guy.
Starting point is 02:08:03 So for me it's just like, I start to think yo, as a kid I used to get on the train and be erratic. I remember me and my friends used to go in there, make noise, bug out, boom, boom, boom. Who's to say at some point somebody could have decided that you were a threat? You are really, really, really creating a precedent now where somebody can say yo that person was being erratic,
Starting point is 02:08:24 so I killed him with no recourse. That's a scary, scary slope, bro. And I don't think that slope would have been looked at the same if a black man had chosen a white man. I wouldn't try. I agree. And I think that's why I agree with everything you just said and everything you just said.
Starting point is 02:08:39 I mean, I think part of it is how we're talking about the case, how the world is talking about the case. Because it's, was he racist? Was he not? Was he intending to be racist or not? It's entirely possible that that he got up, Daniel Penn, he got up to save the train because he really thought the train needed saving. The question is, why do you think the train needs saving when you see that particular person?
Starting point is 02:08:58 Exactly. Exactly. And then when you choke him, why do you think he needs that much force? A lot of studies show that black people are read as stronger than they actually are, more guilty than they actually are, more pain resilient. So you might actually think this black dude needs six minutes of choking. Because if we didn't get up, he might, he might walk.
Starting point is 02:09:13 That was the argument for beating Rodney King for all those minutes, right? If we hadn't, if we got up for one second, he'd have ran through LA and killed everybody. So it's not, to me it's not, did he intend to be racist or not? It's how deeply embedded is racism in our society and in our minds that even when you don't intend to be,
Starting point is 02:09:27 shit like this still happens. And then to Imani's point, to me it's not just about sort of what we do after somebody dies, it's how do we help and pay attention before. Not just when you get to the train. The fact that he's sleeping on a train, living on a train, the fact that mental illness goes untreated.
Starting point is 02:09:44 If we invested in mental illness and in houselessness, we would then not have a situation where a death sequence like this could happen. And if you look at Mike Brown, if you look at Jordan, I mean, you go down all the list of these deaths, a lot of them came when there's somebody whose life is screwed up because the system doesn't work for them. Well, what happens is those are like the homeless,
Starting point is 02:10:06 mentally ill, those are society's castaways. You know what I'm saying? That's like the trash. So if some, and I'm not calling anybody that, that's just the way society views certain folk. And in that instance, it's like, all right, it's all right if it happens to them because don't nobody care anyway.
Starting point is 02:10:23 That's how the- That's why I said that this is a referendum on all those things, on homelessness, on mental illness, and like you guys said, race. So his father, Jordan Neely's father, has filed a civil suit against Daniel Penny. And see, and that's- I hate that.
Starting point is 02:10:38 I hate that. Because he's going to win, right? They're going to give him $5 million, some shut up nigga money, right? And the man is walking around laughing and joking in a bar after he just got acquitted for killing my son. Yeah, you're not gonna feel good about that money. I still would take the money because again, I mean, he's not gonna get the money.
Starting point is 02:10:56 Daniel Penny doesn't have $5 million fucking dollars. So even if there's a judgmental render. I'ma sue the subway too. I'ma sue the MTA, I'ma sue the city of New York, I'ma sue all of that shit. He gonna win some money because society's gonna dictate that he needs to be compensated because he got no justice for sundown.
Starting point is 02:11:11 So he gonna get some level of compensation, but is it really compensation when this nigga goes on to live? It's like, he was 26, dog. Word, yeah, as a baby. No, Daniel Penny was 26. Like, yo, dog, he look like a kid in the face. He does. Let one of our kids do that shit.
Starting point is 02:11:27 Every time I feel like we win, this situation, this shit affects me. I ain't gonna hold you. It takes us 10 steps back. It affected me in a way I ain't thinking. And it's unfortunate, like it's really unfortunate because it's like, you think that we're, you think that we're finally getting justice.
Starting point is 02:11:43 It's progression and this happens, you know what I mean? Society shows you, the jewelry shows you. Show you where you at. How they reported it, all of that shit. It shows you that some of this, the racist, the shit ain't going nowhere. Yo, be proactive, please. I agree.
Starting point is 02:12:02 That's what I, for me, when I think of things like this, sometimes the risk of something might be worth, you know, taking a chance because I hate knowing that that guy went out like that. Like, I wanted to remember him as the guy that I used to see, not the guy that got choked out on the train. People held his hands, dawg. Yeah, like. So he couldn't... And that person should be charged.
Starting point is 02:12:24 That person should have been in the hospital. And there's like good Samaritan laws and shit. I thought like you observe some shit you supposed to State the state though, you know like Vegas imposed one, you know Because of this happen in the bathroom where somebody watched it happen It was a young girl was it was sexually assaulted in the bathroom and the person didn't say anything and they were like, okay We're gonna add a good Samaritan law there There's some in the East Coast but a lot of states don't have them. And unfortunately, it takes shit like this to happen before they say, you know, we need one. Do you think that, I don't agree with the Black Lives Matter,
Starting point is 02:12:50 I don't know who that is, the person that said it. You mentioned his name, Mark. I talk new some of my things when you talk about him. You know, saying what he said is helping either. No. Like vigilante or saying that justice needs to be served and shit like that. I don't think that's just putting us back in the box.
Starting point is 02:13:06 But, I disagree. I disagree, only because sometimes that's the only thing that they respect. So now, if you start seeing real repercussions happening, it's like, all right, we gotta switch to this. Another black man dead or in jail. Do they respect that? Why you think they respect that?
Starting point is 02:13:23 Violence? People respect violence. People respect violence. People respect violence. We do respect violence. I'm not going to sit here and be an advocate for violence, but I will say motherfuckers respect violence. Violence gets resolved. In this country? No, around the world.
Starting point is 02:13:34 Niggas respect violence. Violence gets resolved. There's two things that white supremacy respects. The loss of money and the loss of life. I understand, but nothing happened to George Zimmerman. Nothing. Nothing at all. Niggas walking around, running around. Sitting around laughing, joking, blacking understand, but nothing happened to George Zimmerman. Nothing. Nothing at all. He was walking around, running around. Sitting around laughing, joking, bragging.
Starting point is 02:13:48 What happened to him? That was Holes for it. He said, y'all talking about wanting to murder me. Y'all letting these niggas run around like that. Exactly, so then now he's saying that like, he's like, nigga, why don't you go do it? That's your people to go do it. I don't know him, I don't know him,
Starting point is 02:13:58 and he's not my people. Oh, my fault? Yeah, I just know his name. But I only know his name because I was debating about him the other day, because somebody was trying to get me to defend him, and I was was like, well, no his position isn't my position, right? I don't necessarily even this is what I say. We have to fight back We have to resist but the the fundamental issues here are not between
Starting point is 02:14:18 Daniel Penny and Jordan, you know, there's bigger issues that I want to fight, but you can't fight them, right? So then so then we got to. But you can't fight them. Right. So then we got to organize. Because I can't fight them solo. And so people feel helpless in that. And so they feel. Let me break some shit. No, they feel like you have to resort to a certain level of Neanderthal carnal violence.
Starting point is 02:14:39 Yeah. Because organization is not yielding results. All of the political action is not yielding results. We're not yielding results all of the political action is not yielding results We're not yielding results at the polls We're not real the results in in legislative laws being passed So it's gonna be an eye for an eye to for tooth. That's people's mental. I'm not saying that. Yeah, that's my man They're not wrong understand where that frustration will lead you to think like they're not wrong It's just you have to have a tactic in a strategy. I mean, we just saw, I mean, anywhere around the world, you see all kinds of resistance happening.
Starting point is 02:15:09 It works, but it can't be just me. I remember we were in Ferguson after the Mike Brown uprisings, and it was me and a group of people, and we were at the top of this hill, and we were like, yo, we could make a similar vigilante type move at this moment. And one of the people was like, yo, that's not tactical. That's not what grads, I mean, there were, when you go to Ferguson, there were helicopters, choppers, grenade launchers. This is a town that had 16 cops.
Starting point is 02:15:32 They didn't even have dashboard cameras, but when the government- When it's time to turn up? The government had everything. You can't win like that. You're not going to win like that. So? So you have to organize.
Starting point is 02:15:42 I agree. Yeah, and it might not, and to me, organizing right now is the laws. Organizing right now, not only that, but organizing for laws, changing how we think about mental health, and also educating our people. Because most people with mental illness walking up and down the street. Are not threatening.
Starting point is 02:15:57 They're not threatening. At all. Even when they're talking to theyself. I mean, I walk through New York train station, which is the most terrible place I've ever been in my life. And New York train station all the time. No, no. Am I wrong?
Starting point is 02:16:08 You're wrong, nigga. You're wrong. Newark Penn Station? You've been to North Philly before, nigga. I'm sorry. I'm trying to put my time. That shit is fucking bad. That's Newark Penn Station.
Starting point is 02:16:16 I've never been to a fucking Penn Station. I haven't been everywhere, I haven't been everywhere, but that shit scared the fuck out of me. It was the worst thing I've ever seen. When did you go there, man? You just need freestyling' to be cosigning. She lives in New Jersey!
Starting point is 02:16:29 Stop! She live nowhere near Newark, Penn Station? Hey, yo, Mark, stop right now. Mind your fuckin' business. So I did a Google search as to which one was closer, Penn Station or Newark, and then the fact that was, yeah, so it just made more sense for me to go to Newark. From where you live. If you take a hamster. From where I live.
Starting point is 02:16:47 From where you live, it makes more sense for you to go to Newark station. Yo, I can see, I can see. You a liar. You can get on a nine minute ferry and go to Newark. Yeah, walk outta here. Yeah, I gotta go. Rest in peace, man.
Starting point is 02:17:01 Rest in peace. Come on, man. You guys are telling where I live? Rest in peace, her, dude. Come on, man. Oh, shit. You guys want to tell him where I live? The fuck? Rest in peace to Nikki Giovanni as well. Yes. Really? Nikki Giovanni died?
Starting point is 02:17:10 God, I've been under a fucking rock the last three days. Yo, yeah. Mel. What? Stop. Okay, listen, geographically, maybe I got some shit to learn. Okay? But just stop.
Starting point is 02:17:24 Plus, why was I gonna pay the toll to go through the tunnel just to go backwards? We know, but just don't offer it anymore because it just... Yeah. Well you left in a sweet dark night You found a lady named girl Psst.
Starting point is 02:17:44 You said I could love you back And so it's worth the night You make my mind I feel alive You make my mind I'm so excited I'm so excited I'm so excited I'm so excited
Starting point is 02:18:08 I'm so excited I'm so excited I'm so excited I'm so excited I'm so excited I'm so excited I'm so excited I'm so excited
Starting point is 02:18:24 I'm so excited I'm so excited We'll be back. And we're back. And we're back. We are back. They caught the killer. Allegedly. They caught the United Healthcare CEO killer. The vigilante. Luigi Maggioni. Allegedly. They caught the United Health Care CEO killer. They had a vigilante.
Starting point is 02:18:46 Luigi Maggioni. Allegedly. So, y'all believe in conspiracies then? It's Mario and Luigi and all. Yoshi, fuckin' Bowser. Somebody lost their life here, guys. I know. No, no, no, we know that part here.
Starting point is 02:18:58 I'm talking about the other side of that. You know, there's not a lot of people that are sympathetic to that shit. I mean, we should be, but there ain't too many people care. I'm not even saying that. I'm not, I'm. Yeah, I'm not gonna say that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:11 I'm talking about. I'm just telling you. The killer. The healthcare practices. The professional killer. Are horrible, there's a lot of, you know, it's just a lot of shit they're doing to people. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:21 A lot of shit, I read something that, it's just a lot of shit. I don't know, some manifesto that came from him, but I read something on Twitter I was talking about his mom and shit like that It was just they say he set up some other shit to like to be released on different day like he got Yeah, yeah, December 11th. You got something coming out and shit like that. You know, I don't know what you to deleted his page anyway They caught that nigga McDonald's man, they. They did, in Altoona, Pennsylvania. Which makes sense.
Starting point is 02:19:48 He spent some time in Philly. You'll stay bugger. It's been a weird week, yeah. Well, he's a Maryland native, so he's not from Philly. So maybe he was just passing through and getting a little happy meal or whatever the case is. He went to Penn, too. I mean, with the University of Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 02:20:01 Went to New Penn. You know the role. And this is one of the most interesting killer stories I've heard in a long time. Like, and there's so much lore around him. From like y'all talked about last episode, like the gear that he wore, you know what I mean? He was throwing that shit all over.
Starting point is 02:20:14 The fact that it was a 3D fucking gun and silencer. Right, and he's like a heartthrob on the internet. I mean, this is very interesting. This is the most sympathy I've ever seen America have for like a cold-blooded murder. This is very interesting. This is the most sympathy I've ever seen America have for like a cold blooded murder. Oh, it's fucking, it's eat the rich. That's what's happening right now.
Starting point is 02:20:31 That's exactly what it is. Yeah. I'm with it. Like the bigger conversation, not the killing him part. You know, I actually was really frustrated at all the death, laughter, and you know, this is somebody's father, this is somebody's son. This is a human being with a family.
Starting point is 02:20:47 And so, and he's not the reason why healthcare is fucked up. You know, and so, I don't want us to celebrate this and go back to keeping the system the same. To me, like, if we're gonna talk about this and make all the jokes and all that other stuff, we gotta look at, you know, a system where people are getting denied medicine, where people are getting kicked out of nursing homes.
Starting point is 02:21:05 That's the shit we should be talking about. I understand why people mad, I understand why people don't care about dude dying. I understand all of that, but I just hope we get past that too. But he's gonna be the most celebrated killer in prison for a minute. Yeah, well he's been charged in New York
Starting point is 02:21:19 with second degree murder, possession of a loaded firearm, possession of a forged instrument, and criminal possession of a weapon. but he's also been charged in Pennsylvania with charges of carrying a gun without a license, forgery, falsely identifying himself to authorities and possessing instruments of crime. Wow. They just do all of them. Yeah, all they do. Pennsylvania wants them to shoot.
Starting point is 02:21:42 Right. Is it Hannah's shoot of Commonwealth? Right. Because if you said the Commonwealth? Right. Because if you commit an open... So they didn't give him a first degree murder charge? No, which is interesting, because this was 1000% premeditated. He made a fucking gun.
Starting point is 02:21:57 No, a lot of people make guns now. No, no, but it's seeming like he made it for this. He walked up behind a dude from far over here and popped him. So you had to find him. You have to know where he's going to be. This is the definition of premeditated. So I don't get the second degree charge. Then walked up on him, completed the job, got away.
Starting point is 02:22:19 Allegedly, he had three bullets written with different words on them. Defending on the suppose. Basically, described how he felt about this particular dude, or this particular dude's company. If that's not a premeditated murder, tell me what the fuck is. I can't because it seems very premeditated. So what are you getting at, Ish? Because I hear you and Ice talking about that the person that they may got is not the killer.
Starting point is 02:22:46 Oh, I'll tell you what I'm getting at. I don't believe that at all. I don't believe that. Not at all. By the way. You don't believe that it's him? No. That he's the killer?
Starting point is 02:22:53 No. No. That's the fall guy. It don't really look like him to me. It didn't look like him to me, neither. Really? No. But that's not him.
Starting point is 02:23:00 I'll tell you, sure. I don't care if it was that guy that matches the mask that they said that, yo, I just think that if you are that calculated in attempting to kill somebody. New York City, bro. Right? He did shit that allowed him to quote unquote get away. I think that you're not as careless as pulling your mask
Starting point is 02:23:21 down and doing some of the little stupid silly shit that he did, I just don't believe that. You know what's interesting is like when we first saw as pulling your mask down and doing some of the little stupid silly shit that he did. I just don't believe that. You know what's interesting is like when we first saw the photos being distributed about his face when he's flirting with the girl at the hostel. You know what was the first thing I thought of that I didn't say?
Starting point is 02:23:37 He's cute. Hot. No, that is not what I thought. Sorry. You know. But I thought, you know what came to mind? V for Vendetta. That's what what I thought. You know. But I thought, you know what came to mind? V for Vendetta. That's what came to mind.
Starting point is 02:23:50 Yes, because it's all about creating anarchy based on like a fucked up system. And the mask that the guy wore. That's what his face reminded me of, but I just was like. He only had a, what type of mask? What, those fucking? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about his actual face. He only had a, what type of mask, what the fuck? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about his actual face.
Starting point is 02:24:07 He had the whole shit. Oh, okay, I see what you're saying. Yeah, I'm talking about his actual face, like just from like that, because he was hooded at the time. I understand, yeah. So you only really saw like the bottom part of his face, but it just, it reminded me of like, you know,
Starting point is 02:24:17 that kind of, that sinister smile that the guy in V for Vendetta was wearing, you know? And so it just kind of tracks him having this manifesto and doing this based on what he thinks is a heavily corrupt system. I think it's really weird to have murdered someone and then walk around with said murder weapon in your bag. And the manifesto. And you are the most wanted person
Starting point is 02:24:39 on the East Coast damn near in the country. Probably in the country. In the country at that point. And look, you kept the manifesto, you kept the gun, the silencer, all your notes. But the cops are not the ones that found him. You got the manifesto, you got all the shit lined up on YouTube and all of this to happen,
Starting point is 02:24:56 all triggered by dates and times. But it's not premeditated either though still, right? So let me ask you a question. So what's in it for the Fall Guy? What's in it for this young man who graduated from Penn, who was I think valedictorian as well, who was on the honor roll. What's in it for him to destroy his whole life? Tell me the opposite.
Starting point is 02:25:13 If you saying that he's the four guy, so what's in it for him? I'm with you. It's a couple of things. One, he might not be, nothing might not be in it for him. They locked a bunch of niggas up falsely and there wasn't nothing in it for them. Yeah, I think niggas, don't get me wrong, it'd be because of conspiracy theories, but I think sometimes we just like throwing conspiracy theories on shit to make it more interesting. I think this nigga just bugged out and did some shit,
Starting point is 02:25:38 didn't really think it through, thought he thought it through and then didn't go ahead and fill certain gaps and went and got a McChicken. They were showing that he didn't have a uni brow, but niggas cut their uni brows all the time. It's like, like just bullshit. So he cut his uni brow, but they ain't throw the gun away. Got it.
Starting point is 02:25:55 Souvenir. He cut the uni brow in an attempt to escape. He put the gun on eBay. He didn't know he was gonna get caught. He wanted to sell a gun. This is the gun. Yeah. I didn't put the man up.
Starting point is 02:26:04 He didn't know he was gonna get caught at McDonald's. Or maybe he wanted to get caught. Or maybe he wanted to sell a gun. This is the gun. Yeah. He didn't know he was going to get caught in McDonald's. Or maybe he wanted to get caught. Or maybe he wanted to get caught. So why shouldn't he be on the ground? These are all... No. If I wanted to get caught. Something's not adding up, I agree with you.
Starting point is 02:26:13 I just don't know what the main pieces. Do you think he wanted to be a martyr? Do you think he wanted to get killed and be a martyr? Maybe. People who do these kinds of killings and then get caught in McDonald's often want to be celebrities and heroes. But the reality of the situation is he's left New York,
Starting point is 02:26:27 he's in a totally different fucking state, and he was not caught by the cops. These were Keystone fucking cops. They had not found him. These were all witnesses that were in McDonald's like, yo, that looks like the motherfucker. Exactly. So they got a tip.
Starting point is 02:26:40 So they had not been able to find him. But that's usually how they find people. I mean, this is what I say. Why you just ain't go to the job? Why you gotta laugh? Wait, wait, wait, wait, what's so funny, fellas? Let me ask you a question. If I wanna get caught, why am I leaving New York,
Starting point is 02:26:51 first off, in the city that's under constant surveillance? I could get caught without having to go through all of this. So when the nigga gonna actually did it then? Yeah, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Hold up, can I ask you a question? Job well done, soldier salute. You back on your job.
Starting point is 02:27:05 You don't know who the fuck you are. You don't watch Lioness? No. You need to. But listen, great show by the way. Great fucking show. Back to the finale. Yeah, we do.
Starting point is 02:27:16 Yes. Go ahead. I don't like to. Me neither, go ahead. You're dying. Something's not adding up here for me. Maybe y'all can explain it to me. So, cause I, I, I.
Starting point is 02:27:25 No, they can't get conspiracy to me. Oh, let me ask you a question. And I am too. I just don't know what the conspiracy is. Let me ask you a question. Could you have picked that man out? If you would have seen him in your McDonald's lawn? Yes.
Starting point is 02:27:34 You're a fucking liar. You're a fucking liar. We've seen his face on the TV all week. Would you have said? Yes. Man, you would have been like, all white men look the same. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:27:44 No, he has some very distinct features. Yeah, he has features. Yeah, like the unibrow that wasn't there. What do you mean? What the fuck are you guys talking about? He has these thick eyebrows. He has these thick features. Yes.
Starting point is 02:27:54 Only you looking at him hot and bothered. Everybody else in this motherfucker. I am not the only one. I am sorry, I'm not the only one. Sir, can I get you? Sir, you want fries with that? Like, I'm not thinking about that nigga if I work at McDonald's.
Starting point is 02:28:06 But he, listen, I'm just saying he had... McDonald's over there too. It's not like it was McDonald's right here. Yeah, what are we talking about? They released these photos. They released these photos. He's all over the news, guy. They released these photos nationwide.
Starting point is 02:28:14 And you put it and burned it in your mental Rolodex. How you think a lot of niggas get caught? How you think people, when fucking... It does happen. They do sketches of people. How you, it's in their mental Rolodex. That's how people are able to describe somebody. America's most wanted. Put them to draw a sketch of them. I's in their mental rolodex. That's how people are able to describe somebody. America's most wanted.
Starting point is 02:28:28 I ain't going to hold you. I'm with them on that. Because at the 9-11, all niggas thought they saw old boy everywhere. Who? Bin Laden? No, he did not. They did. Are you crazy?
Starting point is 02:28:40 Bin Laden? They thought we saw everywhere? Yes. Or they were making fun of Muslims? No. You thought that nigga was in Newark, man. At the train station. I know. At the Newark train station.
Starting point is 02:28:48 That's right. That's what I'm saying. Fuck is we talk about. The six-five Muslim with the turban. That's my point, though. We just thought he was everywhere. You get calls in about, I think this is bullshit. It'd be bullshit.
Starting point is 02:29:00 Well, here's the thing. I'm kinda leaning with them on. No, they could've said, he looks like the sketch. They go in in they find out Oh, he's not the guy but can see why you would have thought that McChicken and get out of McDonald's Man or the lady who called from McDonald's is thinking about the next person in the line You're having a shitty morning the coffee burnt my hand. I'm having a shitty morning, the coffee burnt my hand,
Starting point is 02:29:25 I don't wanna be here. Ice cream machine broke. It's the good lawsuit too. It's wild, you are wrong. They forgot my hash brown. Aw. Yeah, like yo dog. That's the worst.
Starting point is 02:29:33 I could kill. Maybe I watch a lot of murder death kill shit, you know what I'm saying? A lot of niggas get caught by spectators. Exactly, so when cops go out to investigate like when, what was somebody's last sighting, they'll, oh last saw them at Starbucks. They go to Starbucks and they interview
Starting point is 02:29:47 all the baristas and shit like that. This is not a far cry from reality for me. That's where I get conflicted, right? On the one hand, this looked like, at the beginning, a very professional hit. It looked like, huh? The timing of it, the silencer, the, The knowing he was gonna be there to even catch it.
Starting point is 02:30:04 All this shit, right? The bike. But then over the next, the city bike, all of that, right? I know how to go get away in Central Park. Right. All of those things, fam, have been mapped. All that looks professional. To a point where we don't have no cameras and it happens after you actually achieve
Starting point is 02:30:21 the mission. Wait, that does sound backwards. But hold on, but hold on, no. Going in, before he actually completed the mission, when they went back and looked at the surveillance cameras, he did tip his mask down a little bit. He did some things that didn't seem professional. So I can't tell if this is an amateur,
Starting point is 02:30:35 because he's an engineer, really smart, who did some real professional shit on the one hand, or if there's a professional who got away and now they're making somebody else the Patsy. I'm saying they both seem possible to me. Maybe he's a motherfucker that played a lot of fucking video else the Patsy. I'm saying they both seem possible to me. Maybe he's a motherfucker that played a lot of fucking video games. And that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:30:48 I'm saying it could just, it might just be the most obvious thing. He might just did some dumb shit after. A lot of good criminals do dumb shit afterward and he's not a professional criminal. It's 2011, they caught Whitey Boga after a 16 year manhunt, they caught him. I knew you were gonna say that.
Starting point is 02:31:00 In California. Somebody saw him. Yeah. Yo, I see this fucking, oh, he's old, 16 years late, he's old. And he'd been on the lam for what, I see this fucking oh, he's oh 16 years ladies Oh, and he'd been on the lam for what like how long 15 20 years? Yeah Oh, I see this guy that looks for me that somebody I looking for come it happens I believe you this thing is face might have been embedded in your brain for the last 16 years This nigga right here is fresh off a three-day murder
Starting point is 02:31:22 Everywhere but it faces everywhere Clearest of faces, it's every I wouldn't recognize fresh off a three day murder and out on a mission. But his face is everywhere right now. I think it is. And his face is everywhere. But they're the clearest of faces, it's everywhere. I wouldn't recognize him either. But I also can't tell. That nigga could've came right downstairs in the lobby, I wouldn't know who the fuck that dude was. In the lobby downstairs, I would not know.
Starting point is 02:31:36 Another white woman walking by. That nigga works at the pizza store down the block. What are we talking about? I'm just telling you. But there are people. Yeah, like. I wouldn't know that nigga. That'd be racist.
Starting point is 02:31:46 But it's a little bit of a lag point. Some people are hyper aware of it, and they call on everybody. So I don't know how many calls they got of people saying they did see that dude. Man, that nigga look like Parks. What you talking about? He did not look like Parks, you idiot.
Starting point is 02:31:57 He didn't have the black eyes. Parks was missing for a couple days. Yo, he ain't had a fancy curly beard. That nigga look like Parks. I mean, there are people who are that nosy, who are that, who will call. And they might have called on 10 other people that day. For sure.
Starting point is 02:32:10 And they might have gotten the wrong hint and called on somebody else. So it's possible. You want to supersize that? I mean. Wait, but it wasn't an employee who called, right? Yes, it was. I feel like there's somebody in the McGuy.
Starting point is 02:32:21 It was an employee that called. Oh. Again, they had rookie cop number one come through, hey sir, have you been in New York lately? True, true. And they said, that's the first question they asked him. And what did the dude say? He got defensive, his body language was defensive.
Starting point is 02:32:36 Come on, dawg. Come on, dawg. I'm not rolling, man. Come on, dawg. I am not rolling. He's a 26 year old. I see why you're skeptical. You seen Shooter?
Starting point is 02:32:43 Nah. Word. Hey, he's 26. I hate y'all skeptical. You saying shooter? No. Word. I hate y'all niggas. Goodbye. He's 26 years old. He's from Maryland. He went to Penn. I never saw a shooter, no.
Starting point is 02:32:52 Mark Wahlberg? No. We can't keep having it. It's OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're just taking it out loud. You different. I have a Mark Wahlberg issue.
Starting point is 02:33:00 No, I got a Markie Mark issue. That's why. That was intentional. Fam, he said that basically when one shooter, the dude's picture was out damn near before they had any details. So they knew what hostel he stayed in. You couldn't find him, but you knew what.
Starting point is 02:33:17 Why we wouldn't know what hostel he stayed in? How would you know where to go look at what hostel if you don't know who did? Don't call me a name, you almost called me a name. Why'd you fix yourself? I didn't. I'm sorry you fix yourself? I didn't. I'm sorry. What I'm saying is that there's a lot of cameras around, Ish.
Starting point is 02:33:29 You can go like, the way the city is set up. And that lends to my professional hit that he escaped all of the cameras. Yes. I escaped them. How if he got caught in the fucking hostel? He got caught in an Altoona pencil. No, no, but before the shoot, he was in the fucking hostel? He got caught in the outtuna pencil case. No, no, but before the shoot he was in the hostel, they show him there. They show him in the Starbucks, they show him in other places.
Starting point is 02:33:50 How you know that was him? I don't. Again, I- They told you it was him. The whole thing, I mean- They could have put me up there and said, Yo, this is the guy right here, we got a picture of him going in to Starbucks over here. No, but we would have thought that because we'd be like, now that stupid nigga was with us. I would have been like, I wanna fuck with you, now that stupid nigga was with us. All right? I would have been like, hey, I want to fall for you, nigga. You ain't never gonna lose, nigga.
Starting point is 02:34:09 Yo, they could tell you anybody. You're going to believe it. No, as I'm saying, if we're beginning from the premise that everything law enforcement's saying isn't true, which I'm fine with, then yeah, it could be a whole conspiracy. But if we're saying that the guy they told us killed this person and the person who's on that video
Starting point is 02:34:22 was there, this is not a professional. This is somebody who knew how to get a gun, who not do all this other shit, which makes sense. He's an engineer. He has a master degree in engineering. I'm just like, what's the purpose of the conspiracy? Like typically when you have a conspiracy, there's like something bigger at hand. That's what I'm saying. Like get bigger. The thing at hand was we, was the seed of a company that brings in
Starting point is 02:34:41 hundreds of billions of dollars a year. I mean, yeah. So that's what I'm saying. Walking by himself, we're in the middle of the a year. I mean, it is. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. Walking by himself in the middle of the night in Manhattan. No, I get that concept. Just explain to me why that type of fall guy.
Starting point is 02:34:52 It's above our pay grade. All right. That nigga's above our pay grade. Yo, stop watching TV, bro. OK. And y'all are the dock kings and queens. I don't understand how this is so far-fetched for y'all. And for the fall guy, y'all asked what's in for it.
Starting point is 02:35:04 Is we not charging you a first degree. Yeah. I had a good life before. You may not have had a good life. You might not have. But I was a recruit. They recruit. You might not have had a good life.
Starting point is 02:35:13 I'm going to keep it a secret. Hold on, issue. I might have caught you doing some other shit. I was just going to say that. I might have caught you doing some hacking shit. I might have caught you doing some other shit. And now, this is the trade-offs. You take this.
Starting point is 02:35:22 That is a first degree murder all day, by any definition of first degree. I need an explanation from the prosecutor about why this is not a first degree murder. If your evidence for charging him the other charges, the fake ID, all the things leads to the murder. And to premeditation. Yes. Yeah. And malice, forethought, the intent to kill, these are all things that you do.
Starting point is 02:35:44 Fam, you wrote on the bullets. Delay, deny, depose. Delay or defend? Delay, delay, depose. The bullshit. He bullshit, bullshit. I feel like a lot of conspiracy theorists, like you niggas, man,
Starting point is 02:36:03 there's nothing that we can tell you to make you believe what we say. We never gonna know the truth. What's interesting is it says that he's the grandson of a wealthy self-made real estate developer and philanthropist, and he's also the cousin of a current Maryland state legislature. For him to be really pissed off about... He went to UPenn. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:22 Right? Yeah. It's an Ivy League school. It's one of the best schools in? Yeah. It's Ivy League school. It's one of the best schools in the country. It is. Go ahead. So for him to kind of like have like a disdain for corporate America. Oh, that was it.
Starting point is 02:36:33 He had a back surgery not too long ago. They found his roommates immediately and they all start talking about his back. It's weird. I watched way too many movies to believe this. I thought it was something about his mother. So it wasn't that article that I thought was true. They said he had a back surgery not too long ago, allegedly, and they interviewed all his
Starting point is 02:36:51 roommates and all that shit. I did see something about his mom having some surgery, three surgeries or something, but I saw something else where it was saying at age 26, I think it is, you're no longer, if you were a student, you're no longer under your parents' healthcare. So the anger comes from that right now. He wrote that the US has the most expensive healthcare system in the world and that profits major corporations continue to rise while our life expectancy does not.
Starting point is 02:37:19 This is according to his handwritten notes. And it also said that he called Ted Kaczynski a political revolutionary. No, Kaczynski. No, Kaczynski. Unabomber. Unabomber. Look, he wanted to get away.
Starting point is 02:37:35 They got him. They just wanted to get away. He just kept all that in his bag. He should have went to Taco Bell or KFC. They don't call the cops to go get him. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, just Uber Eats. Or something. Go to White Castle. Let him win.
Starting point is 02:37:46 The employees will never call the cops. Burger King too, nigga. They're gonna get you. You good. Al tuna don't got no chicken shot. Well, he should have did. If he really was trying to get away, he should have just went to a Jamaican spot. Yeah, the Miami business.
Starting point is 02:37:54 Oh, for sure. They rule this shit. They ain't gonna pay attention to you. Yeah, but you're gonna be in there for two hours. So, no, we not. Man, I talked to no Beast Boy. Man, I know nothing. You're not.
Starting point is 02:38:02 Man, I know nothing. Stop it. Stop it. Stop Boy, damn it. Me not know nothing. Me not know nothing. Me not know. Me not know nothing. What you talk about?
Starting point is 02:38:15 Me not talk to Babylon Beast Boy, damn it. What you talk about? Screw you, face. Two heads and four eyes. Two heads and four eyes. What the fuck you talking about? See what they're doing? You're the police with the whip and then it's like...
Starting point is 02:38:30 With the long teeth side. Tractor action. Man, I know nothing. Yo, now stop. From Pund me. We out of oxygen. Yeah, picnic. Man, what you just said? From Pund me. We out of ox-pits. Yeah, pick me a good one. Pick me a good one.
Starting point is 02:38:46 Man, what you just said? She said we out of ox-pits. We're not even trying to sell police ox-pits? Yeah, they ain't gonna give you no information. Before you even ask. We're not giving you no information. Y'all want me to say we ain't got no information. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:39:02 Exactly. Your name is all racist. You should meet two Caribbean women. See? Where you're working, go like you now. Yo, Ike, they got a Chinese store at every corner, even in Altoona. Go in there, get your dumb ass some fried rice
Starting point is 02:39:15 and some chicken wings. Go, go, go. They not saying nothing. Don't say anything. They ain't saying shit. They ain't saying shit. Nothing. And you in and out real fast.
Starting point is 02:39:24 Real fast. Real fast. You go, you go, you go. They ain't saying shit. Nothing. And you in and out real fast. Real fast. Real fast. You go, you go, you go. I'm trying to get you out of there. All right, all right, I'm bugging you. You bugging, we bugging. You want some duck sauce? Yo, the fuck is you talking?
Starting point is 02:39:36 Somebody help. I don't know. Stop, stop. Barbecue sauce and ketchup. Stop. We the only one that do this, the barbecue sauce, ketchup and hot sauce, who the fuck? We the only one that do this. That shit's fucked, that shit's fucked. It is, but we the only one that do this. the barbecue sauce, ketchup, and hot sauce. Who the fuck? We the only one that do this.
Starting point is 02:39:47 That shit's fucked. That shit's fucked. That shit's fucked. That used to be my thing after school. Why a nigga don't do that? Chicken wings, french fries, hot sauce, ketchup, and barbecue sauce. Oh, that was it. Oh, that was it.
Starting point is 02:39:55 You gotta let the hot sauce marinate. For a little bit, yeah. You gotta let it stay in there. You know what I mean? Oh, so you stay in there for a while, that's right. I don't eat it right then and there. You gotta let this hot sauce get all in the... And it was kept in
Starting point is 02:40:05 The nice little styrofoam They need to bring the styrofoam back We eat and gonna give us cancer you might as well just give us the whole cancer Bring back the styrofoam we need it for some For some reason, no, it kept the fool warm. It kept it fresh. It kept the flavor in there. It kept it crispy. That stupid ass plastic shit, I hate that shit, man.
Starting point is 02:40:32 Me too. That shit is disgusting. I like the paper shit. The styrofoam was salt. The styrofoam was seasoning. It was seasoning. That shit was good. That shit was good.
Starting point is 02:40:40 It was good. Poisoned meat. It should be so hot, the styrofoam, the melt of the oil. Yeah. We'll see. That shit was good. That shit was good. It was good. Poison me. It should be so hot, the styrofoam, the melt of the oven with your wings. Yo, we be so better. We be so selective on our poisons that we want.
Starting point is 02:40:54 Like, we all got some po... Give me the styrofoam, man. Over that stupid ass fake plastic shit that they got? I prefer that, nigga. I got a whole cabinet with them shits, man. Styrofoam? No, with the plastic shits. Like, Mel got. Mel got some shit on her. Mel did. As my Tupperware. Tell us about it. Give it all that shit, man. I prefer that I got a whole cabinet with them shit smell
Starting point is 02:41:11 Give it all that shit man, what's bad for your body is bad for the That shit ain't got that. That shit is a plate. You can open it and turn it into a plate. No, we don't know. We ain't had that in the hood. What? It's a plate. You take the handles out and you unravel it and open up, it's a plate. It's a plate, yeah. That's why it's made like that. I never did none of that shit.
Starting point is 02:41:33 I just eat it out of the kitchen. I don't eat Chinese food from the hood. Oh. I eat chicken fried rice with four chicken wings. They can chop it up all the time. I don't do that shit no more, man. And make chicken wings affordable again, too. Nah, my shit boneless spare ribs.
Starting point is 02:41:43 Hey. That's not pork. That's not pork. You report? We don't care, though. That, my shit boneless pair of ribs. Eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy When I'm spot like in New York or in Philly or like in the Spice. No. Listen. No, no, no, no, hold on. Big dog, big dog, big dog. No, I'm from New York. New Jersey. I ain't eat no fucking Chinese food. If the menu says no MSG, you can't get that. No. It has to have MSG.
Starting point is 02:42:14 And you need little kids in there. No, wait, hold the fuck on, nigga. This shit's disgusting. We do the no MSG. No, we don't. No, we don't. I want MSG. Who has to know MSG on the duck sauce?
Starting point is 02:42:21 I don't go there. I want MSG. Yeah. The garden. That's what make it good Madison Square Garden You're going I'm done with her Chinese food you're going there Spring roll, they'll fuck them niggas. Nah, that's good. They don't eat that. What? They don't eat none of that shit. They don't eat that. You going there.
Starting point is 02:42:46 I'm done with her Chinese food. You going there. Them niggas got the table. Ain't none of that shit up there. Well, no, that's not true. You will see them eat some rice and they'll do the greens and all that. They'll do the soup.
Starting point is 02:42:52 They don't eat some white rice. They'll do the soup. That's it. They're not gonna eat that shit y'all eating. The beans probably do the beef. That's fine. That's for me. Niggas got fish with the head on it.
Starting point is 02:43:02 Y'all niggas eating that. Hey, yo, real quick, in closing, man, they got the suspect, man, he's been charged. Let's see where this goes, man. Praise everybody that's involved, all parties involved. Sure. You know what I'm saying? Believe what you want.
Starting point is 02:43:15 But mainly people that shitty healthcare. Salute McDonald's. That's really the crooks of the shit. So if you want to go conspiracy niggas, what, McDonald's is up now in the stock They caught the killer there Any held a motherfucking happy man with Simba on it nigga So all that I swear to God because they doing the movie the new we didn't mention that either
Starting point is 02:43:37 I was about to mention that we didn't mention that to salute a blue IV She's in a new Lion King Mufasa movie. And both her parents showed up. Yeah, that was dope. It was a beautiful moment on the red carpet to see that. Beyonce was looking like something, too. You can't watch a nigga wife like that. Come on, it is.
Starting point is 02:43:54 You outta line. I'm congratulating the man on this shit. Beyonce was looking like, you can't, you outta line. But you said nothing to James. That's why you hide your girl. That's why you hide your girl. He ain't killin' niggas. This is why you hide your queens, yo.
Starting point is 02:44:04 Cause what? You don't want niggas complimenting your queens like that. What the fuck about that? All right, so bring her around. That's why you hide your girl. This is why you hide your queens, yo. Cause what? Cause you don't want niggas complimenting your queens like that. What the fuck about that? Bring her around. That's against the protocol. You bring yours around, nigga. I have.
Starting point is 02:44:11 He has. Once. Bring yours around now, next. You bring yours around once. So what? I'm just saying, you can't tell who. Yes, I can. No, you cannot.
Starting point is 02:44:18 Yes, I can, though. You can't compliment a man's wife, nigga. Especially if you're Jay-Z fan. You can't, nigga. You got to lie. I don't even look. I was with... What's the nigga name?
Starting point is 02:44:28 Omari Hardwood? Hardwick. Omari Hardwood. It's Hardwood? It's Hardwood. It's Hardwood. Okay, Hardwood, let's go with that. Hardwick, you just like...
Starting point is 02:44:35 Three guys. Cotton Bobbin' ass. They ask about you all the time. What? They ask about you. The people like, yo, shout out to Joe. Every time they shout Joe out, they always gotta shout out Melissa. They don't say nothing about me-ish, Ice, or none of that. Yo, shout out to Joe. Every time they shout Joe out, they always gotta shout out to Melissa.
Starting point is 02:44:45 They don't say nothing about me, Ish, I said nothing of that. Yo, shout out to Joe. Oh, I said hi. Oh, I don't like that shit. They're like, all right, cool, go tell yourself. Yeah, Ish Hardwick. I'm saying somebody was looking good. Beard said she was looking good.
Starting point is 02:44:58 Talking about, Jay had a nice suit on. Really nice suit, actually. I seen a picture with Victoria Monet, Teyana Taylor, and Janelle Monet. And Mufasa? I don't know where it was at. I don't know where it was at. That's the hyenas.
Starting point is 02:45:14 They look amazing. Ooh! That's the hyenas. Happy birthday to Teyana Taylor, today's her birthday. I think that's what it was. Happy birthday Teyana, we love you. Happy birthday to my sister. They look amazing. They look amazing.
Starting point is 02:45:25 No bad lawyer, man. That nigga's a pervert. That nigga's a pervert, so. Who? What? How? You don't respect niggas girls and boundaries. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 02:45:33 My complimenting somebody looks? I ain't say nothing disrespectful. Say she looks good, that's it. I said that. Beyonce, what do you like about her? I sort of hope them look good. Like yum, hyena, and all that fucking. You did get the dirty old man voice.
Starting point is 02:45:41 We were talking about Mufasa, so they look like that. I'm not talking about Mufasa. I'm talking about Mufasa. I'm talking about Mufasa. I'm talking about Mufasa. I'm talking about Muf? I sort of like some. Like Yum, Hyena, and all that fucking. You did get the Dirty Old Man voice. We was talking about Mufasa, so they finally go. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 02:45:52 You gonna see that movie-ish? What, I go see it? Yeah, you gonna see Mufasa? I will. You'll probably bring your kid. Yeah, I wouldn't go see it. If I had my older daughter, I'd take her to go see it. My small daughter.
Starting point is 02:46:03 You gonna go see Mufasa on ice? You know, he gotta go see it my small daughter You go see Fossil on Ice? You know he gotta go see the other version of the shit He see all the other versions of shit Have Michael Mex on Ice was bullshit I never went to see Michael Mex Michael Mex on Ice He's wild, keep listening to the people
Starting point is 02:46:18 It's for real, how they How they put that up there How they set my enemy up How they set my enemy and then he's like, I'm thinking about- I'm thinking about- Hey, yo, this nigga came home to the room. Yo, Fleming Brod, I'm living on this. Idiot, yo.
Starting point is 02:46:36 That one ain't real big. How you even found that, son? That's some Portuguese shit, bro. What are you talking about? You said Malcolm X won ice. It's not Malcolm X on ice, you asshole. So what was it about? It was MLK, right?
Starting point is 02:46:48 It was a Broadway play about Malcolm X. It wasn't a... Was it good? Wasn't on ice. It was a musical. It was a play. Was it a musical? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:57 Was it? We needed it land on Plymouth Rock. Was it good, though? It was all right. Was it better than B.B. King shit that you saw? She saw B.B. King. Louis Armstrong. Louis Armstrong, thank you.
Starting point is 02:47:09 Why you don't love us? They have the guns to sing by any mean necessary. They was turning by the window. Hey yo, one of these days, niggas go get some culture. Right? No time for me. I don't play when it comes to Malcolm X. Them niggas do not play that's outside
Starting point is 02:47:23 that represent for X. They are pressing niggas. They press King Erna. They press me before Malcolm X. Them niggas do not play that's outside that represents for X. They are pressing niggas. They press King Erna, they press me before, they are pressing niggas. And no disrespect, I don't play around with Malcolm X, nigga. Whatever Malcolm on the ice, that shit was fire. They don't play, now for real, Mark, am I lying, Mark?
Starting point is 02:47:40 They take that shit seriously. He didn't even wanna say it. Them niggas running down on you. Y'all niggas, boy. Yo, that shit seriously. He didn't even want to say that. That nigga's running down on you. Yo, that's funny. It's alright fam. Y'all niggas is ignorant. What did you see? I saw an opera joint.
Starting point is 02:47:56 That was good. You saw it too? No. No. I'm on the board of the Malcolm X Center, so we sponsored it. That's why I was saying. At the Lincoln Center. At the Lincoln, yeah.
Starting point is 02:48:08 I couldn't make it that day, we couldn't make it out. But the Lincoln Center, you on the board or the Malcolm X Center? The Shabazz Center. Oh, okay. You always is the... Lincoln Center would put me on the board. You always is the...
Starting point is 02:48:19 Nah, Lincoln Center, he ain't. Lincoln Center ain't having me nowhere near. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You might not fit that. Yeah, he wouldn't fuck with me. Lincoln Center ain't fucking with me. But Malcolm X does, yeah. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:48:26 His daughters, shout out to his wonderful daughters. Now that's gonna be dope. And how was it, how was it working with them? Wonderful, man, it's like a dream. It's like a dream. Malcolm X is my hero. Yeah, he's amazing here. You know, and so to work with his daughter,
Starting point is 02:48:35 Ilyas, who's the chair of the board and all that, it's really dope, man. But doing great stuff in the community for Malcolm, to keep Malcolm's name alive, especially up in Harlem, is beautiful. And the event at the Lincoln Center was one of the amazing events. I didn't know that's what you're talking about.
Starting point is 02:48:45 You know, I didn't go, I didn't make it, because I was sick. But um. Malcolm, Malcolm, I'm sick. Right, it sounds so far from what actually happened. I didn't know the fucking story. We shall overcome. We shall overcome.
Starting point is 02:49:00 We shall overcome. We shall overcome. Triple London. Oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit This nigga's stupid. Yo, man, shut the fuck up. Just get your laughs off. Laugh quietly.
Starting point is 02:49:12 I'm not making no jokes. They don't play with the Cuddle Mockle, Park. I love Malcolm. I would never. I love Malcolm. Amazing. Man, listen, is there anything else that's near and dear to our hearts that we're missing? I just, oh.
Starting point is 02:49:24 No, just one quick thing. Kendrick Perkins was reporting this morning Okay, one ESPN that his sources are saying the Lakers are that a Lakers are saying that LeBron James wants to be traded They won't stop it if but he has to come to them Basically and say like he wants to trade is there a rumor that he does want to be traded He said he might want to go to Golden State. Yeah, that's one of the rumors going around He hasn't directly said anything but Golden State is one of the places that he does want to be traded? He said he might want to go to Golden State. Yeah, that's one of the rumors going around. He hasn't directly said anything, but Golden State is one of the places that he's suggesting he might want to go.
Starting point is 02:49:48 LeBron just retired, yo. That's what I'm saying. Doesn't he just want to be traded? You're not going to go to Golden State? Yeah, I'll watch it. Why? Because they got a bunch of young niggas we can use. It's good for ratings, but it's a terrible idea.
Starting point is 02:49:58 It's good for the Lakers. Wait, who's we? I'm a Laker fan. I'm a Laker fan too, so it's like I don't see that. This is the problem with light skinned people. Let me explain something. Go ahead, Tuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:50:07 Give them niggas. They front runners, man. That's cause you were in the room. They don't want no hard times. They duck the grind. They duck the smoke, man. Oh, cowboy fans. You forgot the Cedric Sabalas years
Starting point is 02:50:17 and the Eddie Jones years and all them? I'm not even listening to my... Like, we had hard times. We just don't have them often cause we have an actual organization. We have had hard times for a long time. So you, in your lifetime, you've seen like five championships.
Starting point is 02:50:29 No, more than that. Like five that you were like alive for. I've seen- Five Laker championships? No, I've seen more than that. You've seen like maybe, because you saw some of the magic ones as well. I saw some of the magic ones.
Starting point is 02:50:39 Well yeah, for me, let's say five. I'm saying five that you like. Let's say five. That's what I'm saying. How many chips Cole got? Five. Five. That's what I'm saying five is right. Let's say five. How many chips Cole got? Five. Five. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:50:47 And you saw the bubble ring. Six. Oh, I forgot about the bubble ring. The six. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't count that, but yeah. I saw it like nine. But anyway, all that to say, the point is, you talk about New York all day, every day.
Starting point is 02:50:57 Jersey this, Jersey that. LA is really fucking far from New Jersey. You're from New York? Mm-hmm. You heard of the Knicks? Mm-hmm. Yeah. You remember what the Knicks? Mm-hmm. Yeah. You remember what the Knicks was like in the late 80s and then they got, don't get me wrong. Yeah, they were terrible. And so light skinned people, that's when they defected. They defect.
Starting point is 02:51:15 They ducked the smoke. They ducked the grind. You equate that to skin tone? Yes. Oh, that's crazy. Light skinned people be simple, ain't, right? What the fuck are we talking about? See, this is the problem with us now. This is the problem with us now. And you back it because of Dawson, this is the problem with us as a people. That's crazy. How about when I was young, Magic Johnson was my favorite basketball player.
Starting point is 02:51:38 How about when I was young, Tony Dorsett was my favorite football player. Tony Dorsett, wait. I'm a cowboy. So, we wasn't shit. I as- Tony Dorsett, wait. I'm a cowboy fan. You're a cow- So we wasn't shit. Nigga, I used to walk in every Monday and the whole class would laugh at me being a cowboy fan wasn't easy. So don't act like I had this lovely road being a cowboy.
Starting point is 02:51:54 You had a lovely road as a Lakers fan. Yeah, but we had our times though. Different times. Yeah. Lakers have been in the NBA finals almost half of your life. No they have, I'm 48. Yeah, how many finals have they been to in your life? 12?
Starting point is 02:52:10 15? 10, 12. That's a lot! That might be not even that many. 25% of your life. Who's your team? Philly. The Philadelphia teams, cause I'm from Philadelphia.
Starting point is 02:52:19 I ride with my team. I don't abandon them when it gets difficult. Nobody did that either. It's not an abandonment. He's saying an ish. I'm saying, nigga we was one in 15. I was getting laughed at every day. I don't abandon them when it gets difficult. Nobody did that either. It's not an abandonment. He's saying that Ishpa, Tray LeBron. Nigga, we was one in 15. I was getting laughed at every day.
Starting point is 02:52:28 There was no abandonment. I'm talking about the Lakers. Can I tell you, can I tell you, can I tell you, when I started watching basketball, really watching, I was on the East Coast. That was the years of Jordan. I didn't go and run to the Chicago Bulls, which would have been an easy thing.
Starting point is 02:52:42 I was a Magic Johnson fan. We're all the Bulls fans. I remember crying when they lost that first championship. I hate them too. Like, no, I just, I liked Magic Johnson, so I stuck with him, and I continued to stick with that team through. To me, that sounds like more loyal
Starting point is 02:52:57 than just picking a team just out of blanket shit. You're loyal to the bandwagon you jumped in. Mark, I'm gonna tell you why your argument kind of fall flat, cause I'm not light skin, and I'm a sixer and still a fan. How many championships have the Sixers won? In your lifetime?
Starting point is 02:53:11 Not even one, the year I was born, I think. Right, so we're not even really counting. My point is, you didn't duck the grind, you picked a team that never won. The Lakers is picking the Lakers is picking a team that always wins. So why are you discounting the Cowboys? I don't know enough about football to talk about it.
Starting point is 02:53:22 Oh, you know. I'm not a footballer, I don't watch football. I said Daw dark skin shit. Okay, okay. Wow. We did it, we did it. Yeah please, we did it. We did it.
Starting point is 02:53:30 Ms. Faye gonna fuck y'all up. We did it. I just want y'all to know. Shout out to Ms. Faye. Sleepers! Sleepers! Yep. You got your sleeper ready?
Starting point is 02:53:38 I gotta kick it off, right? Do I have my sleeper ready? No, why the hell sleep? All right, I'm going big Jersey, man. I'm going big Jersey., I'm going big Jersey. This is Redman, don't want to see me rich. Brick City, let's go. Bring this thing back. Yeah, cock it back Pulse. What you, E-port? Get on your hustle, babies! Yeah! Never punch a clock for a job Too busy making money with the drive
Starting point is 02:54:11 Cross my T's and dot my I's My hustle mode in overdrive Haters don't wanna see me rich So I catch them all slippin' for a lick Pounds get broken down into a zip My money off to the scale on the fritz My circle of people they hustle hard Cash money no credit cards I learned a lot watching better call Saul 30 years in rats nigga I want it all Yo I'm doing alright I get an attitude when my money ain't right
Starting point is 02:54:38 If it's over 35,000 you can either pay pal or I'm on the next flight Haters don't wanna see me rich Haters don't wanna see me rich Haters don't wanna see me rich Your team don't wanna see me rich Y'all bet they all back down when they hear the click Y'all bet they all back down when they hear the click I don't collect checks on the first I wake up, I'm putting in the work
Starting point is 02:54:59 10% I gave it to the church I did that selling out on my merch The homies be looking for a check A business man pay all the homies with a check Work smarter not harder that's the goal With a poker face till my bank account never fold Generation who's wanting in the wealth Saving money more less Gucci on the belt Swim high motivate from Mike Phelps Only what can fuck it up nigga is They say money is the root of all evil I say the root of all evil is the people
Starting point is 02:55:26 The boss try to talk to you indirect Cause he look at you as a threat Get money Yo I'm doing alright I get an attitude when my money ain't right If it's over 35,000 you can get a paypal Or I'm on the next flight Haters don't wanna see me rich
Starting point is 02:55:42 Haters don't wanna see me rich Your team don't wanna see me rich Haters don't wanna see me rich Your team don't wanna see me rich I bet they all back down when they hear the click Know I'm doing alright I get an attitude when my money ain't right If it's over 35,000 you can either pay pal or I'm on the next flight Haters don't wanna see me rich Haters don't wanna see me rich Your team don't wanna see me rich I bet they all back down when they hear the click And that is Don't Wanna See Me Rich, Redman, Brick City, what up, what up?
Starting point is 02:56:17 Shout out to Reggie, man. Good to hear Reggie, man. He's been killing the Instagram freestyles, too. I'm going to go to some J. Cole. He played this. This is off the Truly Yours mixtape. This is Kind of How I Let You. It's a little emo, but fuck it, I don't care. Cause you went crazy on this. What, can I lower it?
Starting point is 02:56:37 Yeah, over the lower shit. One day, I'm gonna understand. Can I holler at you? Let me holler at you Special, never forget the day I met you We was destined for each other like a son to his mother, uh uh Sister and brother, man this bond is deep We go a couple years and don't even speak But know it's love though, you can never let them dirty your name
Starting point is 02:57:24 I got the utmost respect for ya Came back home and had to check for ya Word round town is you locked down Some older nigga snatched you up, gave you a rock now Damn, they coulda beat, she like if you was me you wouldn't wait for me Living fast and wouldn't master breaks for me Big city slicker nigga on a higher track, bigger now But when she send a letter, always write her back And time revered, she feels that she settled too soon While she see me go for miles and she admire that
Starting point is 02:57:51 We speak about time as if we could just buy it back If only it was that simple, damn I miss you Can I holler at you? Can I holler at you? Let me holler at you Yeah I know it's been a while but ain't no better time than now Can I holler at you? Can I holler at you? Let me holler at you Yeah I know it's been a while but You betrayed me The day you played my mama you played me Can't believe I let you in my heart nigga I I shoulda followed my instincts, a stranger in my house Only five years old, but since danger in my house
Starting point is 02:58:29 I was too young to scrap you, but damn if I ain't want to I'm blowin' up fast and I hope these words haunt you Thirteen years knew you more than my real pops Put me on the pack and all the rappers that kill cops Who woulda thought that you would leave my mama high and dry Last words to a bitch, nigga, why you lie? Feelin' bitter so these words might seem jumbled When you left I watched that lady crumble I know by now you probably your old man But still I feel like we're not satisfied
Starting point is 02:58:54 Until we throw hands for all the ass whoopies Heard you tryna talk, tell that punk don't call me You ain't shit and I'm scared it rubbed off on me I'll holla at you I'll holler at you I'll holler at you And let me holler at you Yeah I know it's been a while But ain't no better time than now Can I holler at you? Can I holler at you?
Starting point is 02:59:18 Let me holler at you Yeah I know it's been a while But I heard you on that shit I hope it ain't true Was hard to holla at the last time I came through Could barely recognize you, nah nigga this ain't true Cause you ain't lookin' like that nigga that I once knew And plus you act like you don't know me, we was homies now you call me by my rap name See me do my thing so you expectin' me to act strange
Starting point is 02:59:41 Ain't hollering but you on my mind nigga I don't forget the good times nigga White tees in the club jeans baggy as fuck Sometimes I look back on my life that was the happiest stuff We had potential to be monumental Their mentality, you know that old killer beat Kill mentality, I look at where you at now it's a real fatality Cause where you supposed to be is on top Close to me, chasing hoes like the old days, but now we overseas Dog, congratulations on deceit
Starting point is 03:00:07 Yo my nigga, can I holla at you? Can I holla at you? Let's can I holla at you J Cole? I fucked with that That shit is amazing man Nah, he kinda went crazy He went super crazy Shouts to Cole man
Starting point is 03:00:20 Yeah, go check out the podcast man, it's really fucking great I'm going to The song is called the audacity and it's listen with Jaqueese and Rob 49 It'd be crazy when folks wanna call you crazy, but they demand one playing crazy and your face It be crazy when folks wanna call you crazy But they the main ones playing crazy in your face Listen You had the audacity to call this bitch Had the audacity to text this bitch
Starting point is 03:00:50 I mean, you had the audacity to kiss this bitch Let alone the audacity to sex this bitch Aw man Yeah, Benadar before this rap shit I was him I pipe all my bitches up shit, they need bags and pot of tennis My bitch dawgs get with no weights, I spoil a bad applying pressure We ain't gotta fuck, you tellin' my mind don't think that you for next time You ain't for him, but you for me, I ain't for you, I'm for the street
Starting point is 03:01:10 Stretch me out, you better leave, I'm a dog off the leash You know when I come from out of town, I'm fucking out your sleep You know you my main bitch, but when I leave, I'm doing me You had the audacity to call this bitch Had the audacity to text this bitch, I mean You had the audacity to kiss this bitch Let alone the audacity to text this bitch, I mean You had the audacity to kiss this bitch Let alone the audacity to sex this bitch Oh man, this nigga on trash, he bout to get his ass beat
Starting point is 03:01:33 Why you playing with my heart, fuck with my feelings See, I thought you really loved me You proposed, you got down on one knee I guess that ring ain't mean a thing to you Cause my heart ain't mean a thing to you Take your lies and all your fangs with you Cause I cannot stay with you It's alright, we'll be fine
Starting point is 03:01:54 Chanel and Gucci, she gon' get what she like What she's saying, you know I'm all in Cause they ain't even mean to call it Who would've thought they'd leave it where I was? You had the audacity to call this bitch Had the audacity to text this bitch I mean, you had the audacity to kiss this bitch Let alone the audacity to sex this bitch Oh man Yeah, pen is up before this rap shit I was him
Starting point is 03:02:17 I pipe all my bitches up shit they need bags and pot of tennis I'm sorry, you knew I said it That's the Audacity, Listen, Jaquees and Rob 49 That was hard Nope That was hard Big Mel Mine is by Aaron Frazier, it's called Have Mercy
Starting point is 03:02:35 That's my shit, I played it before but I don't care You have? I don't care, play it Oh wait wait wait, I got something else No, don't care Tuh Don't care That shit fired
Starting point is 03:02:43 It was like a year, it might have been two years ago I played this. Well then that wouldn't have been here. Bell around, bell around. Yeah bell around, it's a great record so. He put out a tape this year that's fire too. Didn't know a thing about it But I knew enough to know If I was gonna be around it It'd be too hard for me to take it slow Well my heart started racing and I took the
Starting point is 03:03:21 place of your shadow I went all in and that's when I knew nothing else mattered Ooh, have mercy Lord, have mercy on me Lord have mercy on me Don't hurt me Never been afraid of falling But I've never been so happy for I just want to praise you darling For giving your love to me and so much more You see me for the one that I am When the others are blind
Starting point is 03:04:24 If you leave me, believe me I still wouldn't treat you one kind So I'm asking baby You got me on my knees singing Don't you hurt me baby, ooh Don't you hurt me baby, ooh You see me for the one that I am when the others are blind If you leave me, believe me I still wouldn't treat you unkind So I'm asking baby, have mercy Lord have mercy on me Ooh, don't hurt me God have mercy baby Ooh, have mercy
Starting point is 03:06:18 That is the smooth sounds of Aaron Frazier with Have Mercy That shit remind me of Smokey Robertson Yeah, he's Smokey-esque. That was fire. That was fire. Yeah, he's super duper dope. You have a sleeper? Imani's got one too.
Starting point is 03:06:30 Oh, I'll be forgetting about that. That's disrespectful. You forget about the one nigga who actually does music. But you guys can fight over it. I mean, he just started really doing music. He just started doing sleepers. He started doing a lot of shit up here, huh? Oh, shit, see. Really doing you just started doing you started doing a lot of shit up here, huh? Oh
Starting point is 03:06:58 Yeah finish my sleep is Shower sounds like a slap you lost the the biggest shit in your life, boy, didn't you? Yep. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. My sleeper is me, ATF. Erickson. That's fire. Now you're mad at that.
Starting point is 03:07:16 Oh! Get your shit off. He cool now, Spire? You got that cool? Why you got to do? We on the same side. Fuck! Yeah, fuck that nigga.
Starting point is 03:07:25 I've been focused on you Let's go, V. Focused on you, baby. And nobody else On her Facing the truth Can't do without you Can't do without you Can't do nothing without you
Starting point is 03:07:52 I think we should put our lives back in fact Come alive, nothing to lose Give it tech, give it a chance Let me change your mind Ooh, let me change your mind Girl, I know how you feel I know the change ain't feelin' good If I go and you stay, will this be easy to replace?
Starting point is 03:08:27 If you send me back to the streets, I'm back to the old me But I don't want nobody else laying beside me Touching your body, you know that it's on me Say that you trust me, that what it's gonna be Let me change your mind Let me change your mind Let me change your mind Let me change your mind I think we should boot Atlanta, Pack a bag Call my life, nothing to lose
Starting point is 03:09:17 Give it a chance I think we should boot our lives back a batch Come alive, I've been a loser, give it back Give it a chance, let me change your mind That's Imani, ATL What's up with the move to Atlanta, you good? You trying to explore different options? That's Imani ATL. Fire. What's up with the movie The Atlanta Shit? You good?
Starting point is 03:09:46 Like you trying to explore different options? It was a moment. What moment? I know sometimes when we get a lot of, I heard when you get a lot of sex you may want to explore different things. You some type of freaky shit? But how does that correlate to? Think about it when you have time.
Starting point is 03:10:06 And don't come back and attack me when you put it into. When you have time. What's up, Mo, you had a sleeper baby? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's from one of my favorite albums this season, Cordae's album. Album's been a really good album, man. Shout out to Cordae.
Starting point is 03:10:19 Thought she was about to play Cassidy or something. Nah, that's next week. Summer Drop with Anderson Paak. Mm. Oh. What happened? What happened? Bro, that ain't Parks no more.
Starting point is 03:10:30 Yeah, no, that ain't. Shit happens. Parks is fucked up right now. He got a black eye. Yeah, I'm injured, man. I got my back a little concussed, too. Concussion, man. Headache.
Starting point is 03:10:38 No shit. Summer Drop. Summer Drop. Pussy popping with the church's Pentecostal. No shit I'm in my other drop, from beanies to buckets A hundred bucks in my polo socks, remember when summer dropped We was at Uncle Spock, three niggas with nothing to do But wrestling slapbox back, when the summer dropped He would cut me for practice, finite grade My 360 waves was splashing, saving up the cash
Starting point is 03:11:19 To get some food as platinum, fat boy with braces A1s and glasses, when the drop, I wanted to make beats and rap My big brother said I need the MPC for that Next summer I was cooking up a Easter batch A-selling sandwiches I used to feed for that When the summer drop, I got cashed and blew it down Back on tour, I guess I'm going overseas for that When the summer drop
Starting point is 03:11:44 Pussy popping with the church's Pentecostra candy painted New Impala spinnin' zonin' plus I drive the summer drive Niggas knockin' sweatshirts, pickin' pockets small Hoppin' in the coffin, we ain't got no fuckin' under the summer drop I worked at the barbershop I swept up the hair from under the chair, couldn't talk a lot I saved up the whole summer, that's how I got school clothes I bought some pullmans and some some fake chains that was foods gone
Starting point is 03:12:07 My nigga what you know about those hot summers, no air condition My niggas got rare ambition but pain impaired division I done lost so many homies in summers, I cherish livin' Nobody cared to listen, they suffer from their decisions I never hit that 7-Eleven on Ben and Roll while wearin' them trendy clothes Pick up niggas like gimme those, till the season Never hit that 7-Eleven on Ben and Roll while wearing them trendy clothes Pick up niggas like gimme those til the season They robbin' and schemin' to knock your block out
Starting point is 03:12:30 Just make sure you safe when it's hot out, nigga Boom, summer drop Niggas knockin' sweatshirts, pickin' pockets, small hoppin' Rentin' a coppin', we ain't got no fuckin' options Summer drop Poppin' pussy poppin' with the church's Pentecost Or candy-painting new Impala spinners on the bus, I draw the cop Boom, summer drop Niggas knockin' sweatshirts, pickin' pockets, small poppin' with the church's Pentecostal candy paint it New Impala spinna zone it, but it's our darling cop Niggas knockin' sweatshirts, pickin' pockets
Starting point is 03:12:48 Mall hoppin', riddin' and coppin', we ain't got no fuckin' options Pussy poppin' with the church's Pentecostal candy paint it New Impala spinna zone it, but it's our darling cop Pussy poppin' with the church's Pentecostal candy paint it New Impala spinna zone it, but it's our darling cop That's Corday, Summer Drop with Anderson Paak. And I believe J. Cole produced that as well. He did a couple of records on Cordae's album.
Starting point is 03:13:13 That's the definition of keeping your head down, minding your business, and getting to it. Yup. That's right. Yeah. Gotta respect it. Yo, good show, y'all. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 03:13:24 Good show. Excellent show, man. Give yourselves a little round of applause, man. Good show. Thank you, thank you. Marc, Marc tried to put me in the headlock of Whispering. You doing your thing. Like, I get up. I'm trying to give you the headlock, man. Good show, man.
Starting point is 03:13:37 That's how we do it, man. Take some props, man. That's cool. Ain't Mike Flip, man. No, I don't like props. I love it. It adds pressure. All of our love with Joe, too. Add pressure. Yeah, for sure. We Mike Flip, man. Nah, I don't like props. It adds pressure. All of our love with Joe, too.
Starting point is 03:13:45 Yeah, pressure. Yeah, for sure. We love you, boy. I know y'all. Your viewership is- They don't care, but- Y'all don't give a fuck, but- We do.
Starting point is 03:13:53 We care. We care so fucking much. We love you, boy. You know what I mean? As long, I mean, he put it together and we stepped up to the plate. Exactly. We put it together.
Starting point is 03:14:00 We all stepped up. It's a teamwork, man. This shit is teamwork. And today was a great show. I like when E come outside smiling. Nigga, even though nigga, Erickson fucked me up today, y'all. I was sitting on the wire.
Starting point is 03:14:10 The nigga didn't even tell me, excuse me. He came and pulled the shit from under me and moved me. I said, now hell be playing when it come to this shit. Yeah, hell be. I ain't like that shit. I bumped into one of the cameras one day. That nigga ran outside with a banger. I was like, no, no way.
Starting point is 03:14:22 No, hit the moving one, watch what happened. Yeah, that nigga was dead. I felt like, yo, I'm in the way, nigga. Damn. No, get the moving one, watch what happens. Yeah, that nigga. I felt like a- What about that one? I got a moving camera. Yeah, I kicked that shit by mistake, he's like, oh my God, damn it! You hear him in the back, oh fuck!
Starting point is 03:14:31 Fuck! On my back, bro. He don't have no middle. It's extremely nice or extremely aggressive. Yeah, I like it, I respect it. That's called producing, though. Yeah, it is, man. Shout out to y'all.
Starting point is 03:14:41 We got a little bit of breaking news real quick. We could probably talk about it on Patreon, but NBA Youngboy was officially sentenced to 23 months in prison and 60 months probation. Okay. So you'll probably get into it on Patreon. Let's get into it on Patreon. She passed away yesterday, she's age 81, one of our legends, returned to the ancestors, sending love to her and her family. Versus peace. And Mark, I was doing some thinking, right? Word? Oh shit!
Starting point is 03:15:13 It's okay, it's okay. Are you, yeah I know you had to say, hey I'm going to get, yo, I'm going to turn up, I'm going to turn up and Renek going to take it out. I'm going to ask you a question, Mark. Are you fully like for the culture? Like sometimes you dibble and dabble. Dibble and dabble.
Starting point is 03:15:28 Yeah, I mean, you know, I was dibble and dabble enough, man. I know you married, but you're full of culture. What about the question, would Dr. Umar be proud of you? Nah, what up, homie? He was talking to Umar, I think it was salty Umar and I coming in. He was tweeting today, it was Umar in there right now, was going back. Umar coming in. They're gonna be salty Umar not coming in. People tweeted that there's Umar in there right now. Umar gonna be up here. We rescheduled, you know, and we're gonna do that.
Starting point is 03:15:50 And it's gonna be a good conversation. I can't wait either, man. I'm looking forward to it. You be ready. I'm watching you. Hey, yo, listen. Classic show, nigga. Hey. We all here to work together. One team, one dream.
Starting point is 03:16:05 I see the remix, I like that. I get out here. M-D-Z, Pop-E-Z, E-M-E-Z, Mark-E-Z, Ben-Z, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma bleep, I'ma I like that. We can do more without Joe. He's got an open for me. Shout out to Corey. Corey too happy too. Corey's got 15% nigga. New York niggas copy niggas like it's all good. No name, no place for the week? Anything going on?
Starting point is 03:16:44 Yeah, I plan on going to deep down in Pennsylvania You go to see the guy you go to the McDonald's We got a proper improv tomorrow, listen do everybody props tomorrow. Yes. Yes We got some more here. Man, look at that power tonight. I got some work to do, man. I plan on doing that. I plan on going to Europe and I plan on going to Argentina before the month is out. So I got some work to do. Dope, dope.
Starting point is 03:17:14 Before the month is out? You got some fire chicken niggas. You're a rich friend. I got some work to do. Niggas is cool. I got a study. In Argentina, they whitewashed Argentina. I've been doing a lot of study over there. I'm going to get that to the bottom of the list.
Starting point is 03:17:31 A lot of the Nazis fled to Argentina. Yeah, foot on ground. I'm going to get Queen Philip with that to the bottom. Careful. Yeah, I'm going to be careful. Don't cry for me, Argentina. I want to give you the acapella. Go ahead. Continue. Go ahead.
Starting point is 03:17:46 Right on. I don't know how the rest of that shit goes. What you doing this week, man? What you doing this week? Working. I got a taping episode tomorrow of Hot and Bothered. At your new studio? No, at my own soon-to-be-old studio.
Starting point is 03:17:59 Got you. Got you. You fighting anybody yet? No. You fighting anybody? Not yet. Damn. Yeah. You fighting anybody yet? No. You fighting anybody? Not yet. Mm, damn. Yeah, it's crazy. I like that.
Starting point is 03:18:10 Yeah. Mm. Any plans, any plans? No, I ain't got no plans. Working, traveling. We're going to the Apollo tonight. Hopefully we'll finally watch this Luther Vandro's documentary.
Starting point is 03:18:18 They're doing special screening up at the Apollo. It's fine. Really? Yeah. Is it dope? You watch it? I've been stalling. No.
Starting point is 03:18:23 And I'm saying, I'm saying that's dope. You're making a hiker shit. You had me hiker-stallin' shit. Listen, I be in Harlem a lot, and Apollo has been doing a bunch of dope events, like, literally, for us to really want to be a part of. They let you back in Harlem? You go and use the bathroom again. Look.
Starting point is 03:18:38 Old nigga got to use the bathroom. Hold on. They let you back in Harlem? Excuse me? Because before they, you know, Who's before they escorted you? No one escorted anything with me in respect to all of them. All right, I'll turn the cameras on. Never mind. I'm getting intense.
Starting point is 03:18:50 Yo. Let's go. We're going to let them live. We're going to let them live. Hey, hold up. We love y'all. JVP. Thank you for tuning in.
Starting point is 03:18:58 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, JVP, JVP, where would you be without the JVP, JVP, why am I to be without the JVP?

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