The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 792 | “Best & Final”

Episode Date: January 18, 2025

The latest episode begins with a reaction from the JBP on Drake’s Universal Music Group defamation lawsuit (19:18) while discussing its impact on Hip-Hop, before taking a look UMG’s response (1:32:00). QueenzFlip states that every contract should have an end date as he questions Joe about production deals (1:53:05), accusations against Method Man (2:09:55), and the end of TikTok (2:13:50). Also, Wendy Williams appears on The Breakfast Club (2:21:24), Big Meech’s welcome home concert in Florida (2:30:35), the circulation of a video on the internet leads to a man’s death (2:44:55), and much more. Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: www.patreon.com/joebudden  Sleeper Picks:   Joe | Hi-Five - “Unconditional Love” Ice | Lebra Jolie – “Turn Me Up” Parks | Busta Rhymes - “Letter To My Children” Ish | Horace Brown (feat. JAY-Z) - “Things We Do For Love (Remix)” Melyssa | Troop - “I Will Always Love You”

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This is a Patreon exclusive, nigga. Hey. No it's not. I'm just lying. I'm trying to get some people. No it's not. My nigga got the Michael Jackson shades. What's that shit he did at the motherfucking,

the Super Bowl? Yeah, nigga. You look good, son. Yeah, I like them shades. Yes, we're on if that's what you're son. Yeah, I like them shades. Yes, we're on, if that's what you're asking. I like them. I like them. You got the gold shit, too. What's that? Is gold plated? That shit's a fly.

Nigga, gold, man. That's some nice Aves. I don't see how they look on cam. They look good. They look good, y'all. Thank you. Blended well, nigga. Like some tinted domer shits. Yeah.

Yo, you doing? Who you talking to? No. Yeah, come on. Yeah, she had the text now. Levels, levels, levels, levels. You fucked them up. Mel tried to send a voice note around me. Don't do that.

Here's the picture of my dick. I hate voice noters, yo. Yeah, don't voice note around me. Yeah, she's so old. Yo, hand me my tank top. Yo, she didn't know how to say anything. Yo, yo, yo. She didn't know how to press select and delete the whole thing.

So Mel pressed her thumb. Why not delete it? His whole ear. She deleted it. She got press the like and delete the whole thing. So Mel pressed her thumb. Why not delete it? His whole year, she deleted it. She got nervous. No, stop, how you doing? I'm chilling, how are you? You look expensive. Mm. Thank you.

Louis Vuitton from head to toe. No, these are both taken. Oh, my bad. Still looks expensive. I think that would have been too tacky. Yeah, really? Yeah, had to tell Luli that. That is a nice little soup.

What is that called? Alright, alright, come on. A trucker's sweat soup. Go ahead. Excuse me. Go ahead, I'm not stepping on none. Get your shit on. It's nice.

I'm complimenting you. I don't know what it's called. Dude compliments don't, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, I woke up, I had some other shit on, but then I was like, eh, it's Friday. Go ahead and wear the Louis Cashmere Dickie suit. You got it?

You look nice too, you got the ash black. You got the ash black, fit on biggish. I washed my shit a couple times, shit. That's what you want. You act like you washed it, but you made it like that. Yeah. You hear me, pal? Yeah.

You look good. I'm happy to see y'all. I'm glad to be happy to see y'all too. Yeah, man. Gang gang. Yeah. How y'all feeling? Yeah, what's the vibe?

Tell me the temperament before this starts. I would like to have a fun time today. Yeah, but you know what type of vibe we on today, too. Damn. We can't have fun. Ask Freeze. I'll come up with what I think after you and Freeze talk. I don't think it's going to be fun.

No? Damn, why? What happened? We can have some fun. I'm sad, man. Why? Same. Lawsuit's got you all sad.

Just sad. Yo, you gotta pay attention to Freeze. With Freeze walking with some different type of sneakers. Yeah. It's just a regular, what are you talking about? It's a sad day. That's what you usually go grocery shopping. Yeah. He ready to be professional today. Listen. Regular shit. The diagram of what's going on. He ready to go in his bag today. Today is Freeze Day. Pay attention to his sneakers. I'm sad, bro. We know. I'm with Freeze, dog. Joe said the same thing over there in the corner. I'm sad, I'm hurting.

Y'all see, I wasn't talking much. I'm disappointed. I came here and just sat down. I was just sitting here. You had your iPad and shit. Yeah, bro. Playing Roblox. Worse.

Hoping some of the shit I was reading was, I was waiting for the joke to drop. Shot through the heart. I can't wait to hear you guys' stances. I love this shit the joke to drop. Like, oh yeah, we playing. Shot through the heart. I can't wait to hear you guys' stance. I love this shit too much, man. I mean, I feel you, but let's make fun of it instead of being sad about it. I spent half my 2024 making fun of it.

That's the problem with being ahead of things sometimes. I've been questioning all of this shit from mad long. That's the other reason I'm sad a little bit. This is like the finale to my views rant. Yeah, yeah, damn. This is an entire closed chapter that played out. Like I've just been reminiscing. When I first got introduced to this nigga's music

during the MySpace days, I'm in the car like, damn, MySpace. I put the playlist on. Oh shit, that was old school Charlene. Look back in his bag. Back in his bag. Oh my god, it's sad, man. I put a little playlist on too.

Damn, did you? Yeah. To remember the good times. Yeah, they could have gave us some joints. My new podcast arc has been, you're the Drake hater. That's true. But the people that know, like, damn, man, it's over for my man.

That's that guy. I mean, we're jumping ahead, but you can't listen to old shit no more? It's not the same like it's not the same That's the problem like he's stepping on his own dope That's the problem He's stepping on his cutting his own shit Like he's he's having too much of an impact on his own fall off

He's having too much of an impact on his own fall off from his style of jumping. This is, this, this, this, god damn it, this shit says harassment, Parks. Yeah, I know. As somebody who just went through something with harassment, it's like, oh, you got extra Karen-y. It's like, no, no. Some Karas out there in the world, my friend. Yeah, but then that's hip hop fault, that's the labels fault, everybody play a part,

it's the fans fault, this shit is sad. It is. I'm so sad, I was contemplating coming in here and not talking about it at all. Honestly, like I was gonna let y'all just, and I'm not, still might, I was gonna let y'all have it. I don't need the blogs clipping me up,

like have I personally feel about it. I wanna be able to personally feel about it, but I'm heard like it's me. I'm heard like it's me in the suit, nigga. That nigga was, oh God. Nigga, Paris Morton music, the fuck are you talking about? Nigga, I started remembering the first time I started hearing these songs.

It's like your dog, man. Let the legacy be the legacy. Mm-hmm. Like, at what point does PR come in? At what point do you factor in how you look and the effect this has on your fans that ain't just these new streamers that since you've been pandering all of them niggas?

I ain't talking about that. I'm talking about back in the day when the bitches was quoting niggas. Come on, my God, so far gone. For years you could put it on. I'm playing with me down the highway. Oh, I'm in Ramo. Whatever. Early.

I feel you. I'm shutting up later, man. I can't believe this. How's everybody else doing? Ish? Great, yourself? I'm doing well. Little under the weather, but I'm cool.

Yeah, you sound a little stuffy. It's all right though. Let me clear up. You gave me, who walks around with Sudafed in their bag? People with people with issues. Side issues. Yeah. Like yo, you got it.

I got some bed drill in here. A whole pack. I got a bunch of shit. They got a whole pack of 12 hour joints, the over the counter joints that don't do. Nah, the shit you gotta get the eye to. The pharmacy shit. The pharmacy shit.

He had them in his bag. The mesh shit, the mesh shit, yeah. But why you come to work sounding like that? You sound, your sick voice ain't like. He's saying your sick voice ain't sexy. It ain't like yours, yo. I don't think my normal voice is sexy on microphones, so this might be an improvement.

How about on the phones? No. That's a microphone. No, that's a microphone. So no girls ever said to you? Yeah, they frontin'. I don't believe them. If they said it, they lyin'. You can't get eyes and a voice.

Eyes? You can't get eyes and a voice. You gotta pick something up at the fuckin' dick dealership. Yeah, that's an idiot. Right? You gotta get something for 11. Now some niggas walking that dick dealership with that cash on them. They come out with shit. They start bugging me. Listen.

I'll take what you got. I don't even know what I got. I got some off the counter shit. You got some off the lease shit? I got some off the menu shit. Stupid. Certified pre-hunger. You ain't designing. Come on. I went in there and picked Rough Around the Edges.

What is this? Don't do that. You know it's a base. Now you have a nice voice, especially for broadcasting. Well, that's what I'm saying. From years of shame, regrets and angel dust. Cigarettes, drugs. Like you can get the voice, but do you want the lights? Do you want to do what it takes to get the voice?

Yeah, you gotta be careful what you ask for. Oh man, Mel you look great. Thank you. How you feeling Flip? I feel well. I'm sorry. I feel great, thank you. That's. I appreciate that. How you feeling, Flip? I feel well. I'm sorry. I feel great. Thank you. That's good to hear.

Yeah. Feeling good lately. Trying to figure things out. Sure. You know, navigate through the trenches, you know. You got them doing construction in the sleepover room? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You gonna put some walls up in there and shit? Nah, I'm not putting no walls. Just, you know, safety.

They just sleeping in a dorm. You see. Fuck, this just sleeping in a dorm. This ain't the army. That shit is not the army. The army is a step up. That shit is hell. Drop them niggas in the jail dorms. No, worse.

Hammond shop, shock too. Big JetBlue, we in our bag today. She got the JetBlue pouch. You remember that? Hey, Mel's so old. Where they put their headphones in. Mel, you take the airplane pouches with you home. No, that's my case for my greeters.

You got a JetBlue case for your home? No, that's my case for my greeters. You got a jet blue case for your readers? No, it's ****. I love his label. Alright, okay. That was a nice little ad. Good shit. Until they give you some bucket money. No, **** that. Block their name out.

Well, shout somebody else out. She got a** shit off Chooza. And you can bleep that shit out, too. Shout out, Harrington. Yee. Who's shouting out, man? That's it. ["I'm In Shock"] I'm in shock.

Mic check, mic check, one, two, one, two. Everybody get they mic check on. Yeah. Mic check check. You heard, man. Ma-ya, ma-ya. Ma on him. Yeah. You all good? Check, check, check. Yeah. You heard, man. Man, yeah, man, yeah. Man, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. OK. Let's go. So if you rebuke me for working with someone else on a couple of Vs, what are you really thinking, a nigga that's making your peace? I've done things for him I thought that he never would need. Father had to stretch his hands out and get it from me.

I pop style for 30 hours then let him repeat. Now you popping up with the jokes, I'm dead, I'ma sleep I just left them over but y'all puttin' pen to the sheets Tired of sitting quiet and helping my enemies eat Keep getting temperature checks, they know that my head overheats Don't know why the fuck you're with this missin' You better not steal Must've had your infrared wrong, now you're headin' a pain

Y'all are spittin' on me to whatever you might be listenin' from Don't push me when I'm in album mode You're not even top five as far as you're always for the ladies always for the ladies I got a challenge those but I bring calicoes to the alamo I could never have a virtual in my circle and hold him back if he makes me nervous I want to see my brothers flourish to their higher purpose you niggas lead to surface I think it's good and now the teachers are learning Yeah, your brother said it was your cousin and him and you So you don't rap what you did, you just rap what you knew

Don't be ashamed, there's plenty niggas that do what you do There's no malice in your heart, you an approachable dude Boy sheesh that niggas really sad look at these niggas. Nigga this is a big deal. What's the name of that song? W. W freestyle. But then the signature faded I think that pretty much resembles what's been happening lately Please believe your demise will be televised And as for Q, man, I changed his life a couple times Nigga was at Kroger working double time Y'all like it like he made the boy when I was tryna help the guy Who gassed you to play with me? Man, you made this shit as easy as ABCs Whoever's supposedly making me hits But ain't got no hits sound like they need me

My hooks did it, my lyrics did it I'm feeling with it, yeah I really shouldn't be giving you none of my time Cause you older than a nigga you running behind Look, holla at me when you multimillion I told you keep playing with my name and I'm a leg ring on you like Virginia Williams I'm too resilient, get out your feelings It's gon' be a cool summer for you I told Louisiana, baby, I'ma tell you what's good Tell you we got an invoice comin' to you Considering that we just sold another 20 for you All you self-promoters are janky We established like the Yankees This whole fuckin fucking game thankless

We moving militant but somehow you the one tanking, no limit to where I could take it And you know me as a crisp bottle sender, check pick up on, I thought we looked out for one another So I saw all these brothers in a struggle too blessed to be humble, I guess it's different in the city I come from All of a sudden I got people, but you might not think truly resent me They hold a mean and dispel envy, they tryna tip me The higher I get, the less they accept me Even had the OGs tryna press me hot No way out, cause I'm already in it

I'm not a tenant when I do a show and get a ticket Good business can clean millions, I got the vision They had this sense Y'all good, y'all look focused Even back when I wasn't as poppin' When they told me take an R&B, nigga, on the road And I told them no and drew for Kendrick and Rocky I tried to make the right choices with the world watchin'

Mike never tried to rap like Pac Pac never tried to sing like Mike Those my dad's words to me when I asked him, nigga, they're life And all my mother gave the greatest advice Now, look at me now, they lookin' me like the golden child Can't nobody hold me back now Especially not right now Certain shit is just too wild to reconcile Take that, take that, no love in their heart So they fake that, the Caprio level, the way they play that

Damn nigga, what is that? You don't hear a sound, but hit my phone like you did that You hit my Nalek, where you been at? It's always on some shit like when can I get a favor? Where my bitch at? Like I'm about to tell you where she been at Caught the Correas, I got a kidnap, she ain't sorry and I ain't sorry It's too late to sorry, green, white and red on my body

Cause I'm dipped in Ferrari, all she wanna do is get high and listen to party She complain I tell the driver to drop at Barney's My summer diet is just Rosé and Calamari Look now you got me started, I'm the black sheep Rest in peace to Chris Farley. I got a lot to lose, because in every situation, I'm the bigger artist. Always got to play it smarter.

Y'all shook up. I'm here on the cook up. Camera's pointed every time I look up. That's why I got a duck behind Chuck. Shoulder just to hit the cushion. Sponsorship dollars are sky high. He be like, Drake, will you please stop smoking? La la.

Chugs. Boy, I try. I'm a thug. I'ma die high Got the rose pink tinted lenses, it's a Wednesday All the checks taking dimensions, they redoing the entrance Yeah, redoing the entrance Kinda like when you niggas drop on some again and again shit

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Reach This looks great MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Okay. Look! You know, I said, oh, you know. Flip and Mel. Mel, Mel, Mel. What episode is this? 792. Welcome to episode 792 of the Joe Button podcast brought to you by

Fueled by, powered by PrizePigs, PrizePigs gang here. I am your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here, host Joeden here with some really amazing people. To my right, you know her name, you know the vibes, you know her body. Big Melissa Ford, M4, who do you want? Who do you want?

How you doing, man? I'm great, fabulous, love to be here. Good, good. Next to her, Queen, what happened? You're so dumb, man. Next to her, Queens flip, Queens get the money. You know what time it is. How you doing? I'm good, you know time, man. Next to her, Queens flip, Queens get the money. You know what time it is, how you doing? I'm good, you know, in the building.

Good. I ain't gonna say all that extra shit, but yeah. Yeah, we'll get her later. That was extra. We'll get her later. Next to Flip, come on, King Wawa, issues in the building. Niggas like charcoal, nigga, let's get it.

A little one to the weather, but he's here. Yeah, he is, team player. He is here, and I commend you. I commend you, I didn't think you would come I didn't think you would come this is your man you gotta be heard like me you got to be heard like me that's not my man well up here we think that's your man yeah up here that's your man up here the narrative of that shit now yeah we think that's you sounds like down no this here that's your man. Up here we think that's your man. The narrative of that shit. Yeah, we think that's your man. So I was like, damn, you gotta come in and speak to some of this shit.

You don't care? Nah. No. You may look at it differently from how everybody else look at it, right? It's just a man, yo. We'll talk about it when we talk about it. I can't. Wow.

Next to him, Elizabeth's finest, the freest of them all. Big ices in the building. Took that Ravens gear off, took that shit right off. Fast. What you doing? It's in the dog cage. The shirt. Oh my Lord. Where's the hat? Throw it out. Okay.

And last but certainly not least, big big parks in the building. Now Myra Finest. What's popping? Engineer to them all. Also Cory is here, Po is herepin'? Engineer Tootham, oh also Corey is here, Po is here, Erickson is here, Keeb is here, Ian is here, Savon and Tanner here by remote last, but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys out there are here. Come on, someone read these charges.

Come on, let's get to it. Let's get to it. I don't wanna waste any time. Straight to it, nigga. What's in the suit? We left, he dropped the suit against UMG and Spotify. The, what was the suit? It was a...

Petition. I mean the petition. Yeah, petition. And there was some wording in there. Listen, I'm not a fat guy. Somebody pull this shit up, because I'm about to cry. All right? I am uneasy today.

I'm way to cry. All right? I am uneasy today. I'm way too uneasy nowadays. Yeah, this is like the hip hop I love has fucking got, it's just gone now. It's gone. Hip hop let me die. I mean, it's dead. Nas was early.

I just feel like, I feel like when, when, when Third Bass was out and when MC Hammer was out and Kwame and Kid N' Play in that era and I was in my bag and my uncles and my older cousins would come over and just be like disgusted. It's like, oh, look what they did. Look what they're doing to fuck it up.

I mean, like, shut up, old guy. Like, I feel like that guy, like whatever it is, it's they, they got it dog. We doing this for diss tracks? Disgusting. It's nasty man. He, like we said, he dropped the petition and has now filed the defamation and harassment suit.

But the interesting thing in there was UMG's position, which is Spotify was like, all right, we agree, go ahead. And UMG was like, nah, we reserve our same position. We not coppin' and nuttin', whatever you're doin', you just go do it, you know what time it is with us. That was interesting. And I've been sayin' forever that, I mean, I guess now so much has just come to light

Right like how long have they been beefing? For a while, I'm sure what is that I? Think what does it look like and when can you identify it in his career? I would identify it around certified lover boy when he started putting out check leak record or job as a album I think that's Scorpion See I was always saying you can hear it. That's the same thing I always say. Right after Scorpion is where it just.

After Scorpion, it wouldn't Certified Loverboy be the next album? Yeah. Yeah. Next? No, not next. He did projects after that. Yeah, he did Dark Demo Lane. But all of that to me just. Yeah, that's all the same conversation I'm having where he started just putting out leak records

and demos and freestyles. Throwaways. Throwaways. Through lack of better terms. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there was something there where it's like, I'm not giving y'all my top tier work no more.

Yeah. We're beefing over something, whatever it is, whether, you know, I want a bigger deal, I'm holding out and negotiate whatever it could be. Was it coincidentally that around the same time that he got that outrageous, whatever that was, half a billion dollar deal or something like that? Wasn't that in that same ballpark?

I think it was post-Scorpion that- It's when I came on the pot. Yeah. What year was Scorpion? Yeah, and then they were- 2018, I wanna say. Let's put this in, so we can get this in time order. 2018, I want to say. Let's put this in, so we can get this in time order. 2018, I believe.

And he got 400 from UMG in like 19... All right. Checks. In like 2019. Checks. The deal was 2022, the 400 million. Oh, wow. Yeah, right there.

So yeah, it could have been, maybe I wasn't happy with that deal. What did you say? No, they paid him. Or we don't know the particulars of the deal. We don't know shit. I ain't here to pretend I do. Yeah, because it could be something bigger than just the bread. You know what I mean? It could be some other shit.

Definitely something bigger than the bread. Well, I was about UMG's response. Well, real quick, I remember when Joe came up here and he was saying that, I remember when Joe came up here and he was saying that Drake is traveling too much or touring too much, if you remember that. Joe, you know, Joe, like you're not even getting any rest. You're not resting, you know what I mean? You said that you have some issues with you personally,

you're not resting, something is going on. You know what I mean? That's something that stick out to me when I look at these complaints and look at the unhappiness. And it was the rumblings when all those projects were coming out that, all right, he's trying to speed through,

he's trying to speed through a contract, he's unhappy, he's something, he's working on something. But again, who knows? Yeah, we don't know. Guys lying on us. We don't know, but I just want to track it artistically as well, that's all.

Artistically for me, it was after Scorpion. I'm with y'all. Well go ahead. Yeah, right after Scorpion. That's where you can hear the difference. And I'm with you. I do think it was Throwaways. Yeah, I think he did the shit on purpose.

Lucy's just, my A1 work that I have, I'm keeping it for whatever, whether it be post-deal or independent, whatever the case may be, y'all not getting this right now. But I still have contractual obligations, so I'm not doing a complete stoppage. I think that's a mistake. The shit he said to Shorty. It's a mistake.

The shit he said to Shorty. Which part? Who, Bobby? Johnny Blaze, right? Wasn't that him? Oh, he was like, yo, I got, you know what I'm saying, I'm on tour, I gotta get out of this bullshit deal, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I think he really feels like that. I think that was, he was talking about the touring deal. I'm just saying, but I think that whatever his- Or not rock nation, live nation. Whatever his circumstances are, I think he has, I think he's got a peak into the other side. Again, this is money above our pay grade. I just think that he's gotten a peak into the other side. Again, this is money above our pay grade. I just think that he's gotten a peak into the other side

and the shit that other people would be happy for, he may not necessarily be happy for. Because I'm generating y'all niggas way, way, way more money than y'all giving me, now I want more and y'all might be looking at me like an artist that shut up and dribble, and he might not want to. What's way more money, right? If somebody gives you 400,000, then you make them a billion.

If they give you $400 million and you make them $5 billion. Okay, so that's the, okay. You get what I'm saying? It has to be that wide of a margin. Because what I'm saying is that if you get $400 million and you make a billion, they're just breaking people. But that's that deal. I've made y'all billions before this deal.

Yeah, didn't we come up with a figure up here, like 19 billion? You know what I'm saying? Like that deal, that $400 million deal came before Certified Loverboy and all that. Look at his catalog before that. Got it. I've been major, we pass a B.

That's the shit we was talking about with Michael Jordan. Yes, Michael Jordan got $25 million, $30 million in the last two years, but look at the money that Chicago Bulls have generated. Look at the city of Chicago and the money they generated. Look at fucking Pepsi's. The league, the whole league. The league, dog.

When you go buy Laker tickets right now, I look at their Laker tickets to go to the DC game. Dog, Laker tickets be higher than every other ticket. So you gotta kind of contribute some of that bread to LeBron and them, even though it ain't necessarily in LA, any city we go to, we generating revenue around, you know what I mean? Like Floyd said that.

Floyd was like, yo, when I fight, the cabs, the hotels, the fucking casinos, everybody benefits off of me fighting. So for a nigga to feel like they didn't get they just do, they might be right. Could be. Could be. What are some of the complaints that the charges that

Drake accused UMG of doing? And while you do that, I just want to add, he is the one that throughout multiple songs was telling you for years about why he could never go independent. He was the one for years telling you how great of a relationship that he had with Lucien and Universal. He has thrown his status in every artist's face.

That's true. To say I am in a different position. Yeah. The game is the game and no you are not. There is nobody that we've seen or that I can think of that has proved to ever be bigger than the system. And when you volunteer to play in that system, in any field, by the way,

you have, there are the same way you generated numbers, the same way you generated streams, there are expectations, quotas, and money being spent on you. You have been the proof of concept for their... Matrix. For where the game was with their, he's been the streaming baby.

Yeah. He's been the proof of concept for Apple, Spotify and the labels in terms of streaming. When the music business was in a disarray before streaming. So this dates back to the Napster fight to me. So don't ever think as proof of concept that it's all you, right? Like, and that's the difference for me

in some of the examples I heard you say. With Floyd, there came a day where he knew it was all him. It's all me. The rest of y'all can eat, the town can eat, Vegas can eat, and he get those perks in Vegas. They treat him like, hey, open up the stores. Yes. The difference between the boxing or NBA analogy and the music analogy is that when the Lakers are playing?

whoever The the Knicks right that game is happening right now, and that's the game When Drake is putting out music all of the games in the history of music are happening at the same time. It's not quite the same. I was just giving it. Yeah, no, I can say to your point. But if I put up 16 championships, I think like you said the other day, everybody thinks they're the man and they're the last to get to know that they may not be the man no more.

I'm not saying he's not the man no more. But if he ain't, he won gonna be the last nigga to know it. Maybe true. So when you go into office now that treated you like royalty for the last decade, and now they're talking to you a little differently, you might feel some type of way. So you feel like he might've had a stronger position maybe five years ago?

I think that he could. I think he would. At the Scorpion, he had the strong. He would've had a stronger position five years ago. And I think they might have sold him a bridge. Even if they was bullshitting with him, they sold him on, yo, you him, me and you, baby, we gonna be big, we gonna be the biggest.

You know what I'm saying? But he was in the bridge business. He was out looking for a bridge. That's back to my point about independence. And again, you sound crazy, or you sounded crazy talking about that with the biggest dream artists in the universe. But this is why. Take whatever equity that they gained you. There was a period where all of that 3am, spooky time, the countdown shit, whatever he was doing, where he could press a button.

The world stopped. Yeah, but bigger than that, how we distributed music changed. So we talked about it for years up here. It didn't cost you any more to make a song and put it out. There's no overhead. There's no radio feed. There's no this feed. There's no storage feeds.

There's no vinyl. It's you now. Yeah. It's not just you were the man on the music tip. We were at the precipice of a change to where somebody that had leverage and could dictate it could dictate it. And that's why I was running around saying,

this boy's the one right here. But who was the somebody that you were referring to, Drake? Yeah, for me. Okay, no, I was asking. No, I was asking. I didn't know if you were talking about Drake or the lady. Oh, you know, no, I'm talking about, I'm talking about Aubrey. To your example, though, when I was asking, I didn't know if you were talking about Drake or the ladies. No, no, I'm talking about Aubrey.

To your example though, when there was times where he would upload in the middle of the night, scary hours, excuse me, all of that, and like you said, the world would stop. Yeah. I think the label saw that. So part of the deal is you can't do that no more. But that's part of the deal is just like,

we know other artists that, like I said, can't put a freestyle out now because of what they sign. The label now understands that it's not just about iTunes or now your value is also in what you upload on Instagram. Anytime you put your voice on any beat, there's some value there,

and the labels are now signing that too. I wanna control it. Okay, but what's consistent for me with him now is, i.e., in the Kendrick battle, I harped on or focused on his inability to view that long term. Yeah. Like, he focused on what was directly in front of

him with these 20 people ignored the real threat didn't see the real game that was being played and ultimately fell victim. Let me land. Let me land. Let me land. I disagree. The same way in this deal. You have to know that if you were the only person that these labels are offering 400, 500, 600, 700, whatever the number is, you're the only person, then that means you have to ask yourself why? And it can't just be, hey, I made them so much money

or I'm so fly. It can't be that. You can't be that self-centered because had he gotten a real answer, which is because if you walk away from us and with all your power and are independent, it's over for the hierarchy. Why do you think he hasn't come to that realization?

He might have come to that realization. But too late now. And now, no, I don't think that. When are you talking about? When? In the last four years or so? I'm speaking this way because you took deal after deal after deal.

Like today, Kanye has come to whatever realization he needed to. That's after a history of signing amendment, amendment, amendment. You get your info how you get your info. But he steady took the money, took the money, took the money. And now he's not in the position anymore, which is part of the labels argument. And you are on the downside and you think you him,

but you are negating that we made you him. And the same way this team won a championship, hey, when you retire, it's gonna be the organization's job to put another championship team on the floor. They don't give a fuck. Go pull up the clips of how he spoke and how Lucien spoke. The niggas was like the two ones in 11. I'm agreeing with you.

I think that it's one, I'm sorry, I think the one small difference is this. I think that especially, we're gonna keep rolling with the sport analogy. Father Tom takes wins all battles, physically. When you are creating something and it's coming from your brain, Father Tom may not play as an important role.

I think that he thinks, dog, I can do this all day. And I think- You're wrong. I'm saying, I say- Not you. So I think that he threw them niggas to throwaways. Like I heard they got albums in the tuck. Fire is what I heard.

He got albums in the tuck. And I think he don't want to get albums to the universe. So I think he trying to figure a way to sever ties with them. And I got all these albums over here in the tuck. And I think he don't want to get albums to the universal. I think he trying to figure a way to sever ties with them. And I got all these albums over here in the tuck. And now I'm gonna tell y'all niggas to suck my dick when I release them. He might be looking for his Kanye out. That's what I was gonna say with the Kanye example.

He might be looking for the Kanye out. Kanye still was able to come out with a number one album, number one single without them. Without radio play, without any of that. Once y'all all stop fucking with me, I still managed to get back up here. Independently. Independently.

Yes, I don't understand. That's what I'm saying. No, I think that's his out. I think his out is, you're saying he played the card too late. I'm thinking, I don't think he thinks that. I think he's trying to find his Kanye route. I'ma leave you niggas alone,

and then I'ma hit the world with whatever I hit the world with, directed consumer or whatever the case may be. Okay, but I wanna be, in my opinion, because this is all subjective. That's all, that's all true. Yeah, we don't know shit. Drake is not in the same ballpark as Kanye West.

Drake has not proven across the board that he can move units, hardware, people. Of whatever, of anything, hardware, people, anything, across to, yeah, Drake is proven in music. It was a lot easier to be independent when you got that fucking easy sneaker money. Yeah, the Kanye brand, just that easy brand, him, he curated that over years.

You are right. Drake has been, and this is back to art, he's been the system baby. So we don't know that, we don't know. We've never seen him do it. He don't know it. But I would think that he would be confident enough to think that I could, or arrogant enough

to think that I could. I have the same way I told him. But I ain't seen it. Yeah, that's what I'm about to say. The same way I told Kanye, hey dog, I believe you independent when you really start taking that Adidas money and buying your own warehouses and your own factories and your own,

you gotta reinvest in the business. I say it all the time. I have yet to see that from Drake. My thing- Let me land. He's got all the money in the world. He does. He has all the resources in the world.

Albums and to get songs popping and moving cost money. I'm not sure that he know how much. I'm not sure he know how much Universal has spent on making some of these songs stick. But if you know music, today he's having a hard time making something stick. And that's not because he lost talent. It's not that. It's not because he lost talent. No, I don't believe that. It's not that. It's not because he lost talent. No, I don't believe that.

He's still him. But without that label, and without that button that they push, these drop joints that some people feel could go. I was just watching. Somebody I was watching, they was talking about, yeah man, they started naming records. These records should've went.

Hey, if this was five years ago, this record would be a top 20 record. Guess what, Playboy? It's not anymore, if this was five years ago, this record would be a top 20 record. Guess what, Playboy? It's not anymore. It's not five years ago. And there is a reason, I know you fans, so you're like, oh, why is this not good? You don't know shit about shit.

This shit is designed and programmed. I'm a great, I'm a great one. But look, with Drake, with the Drake brand, it really leads more to the label is kind of more important than he's putting credit on, because look at the things he's done more to the label is kind of more important than he's putting credit on because look at the things he's done outside of the label. The knock the Nike brand, it ain't take off like Kanye shit did. Nothing.

The OVO Jordans ain't take off like that. Like the OVO label. The OVO label. Yeah. Respectfully. Everything that you've done outside of music ain't really hit like that. And if music is only hitting because the label is pushing, not saying only, but it's almost like,

and we see in the label not push the button now, and the music ain't even hitting. Do you think the label suppressed it? I think they just let it go. They suppressed where he tried to drop on his own. They snatched it down, like he tried to put some shit out, they'll strike it, they did that. But that was telling us how they felt.

Yeah, true. That was telling us. It's up already now. Where they stood on things and that this relationship has soured. To take it back to fucking the battle and Kendrick really quickly. It's not just me.

I'm what the culture's feeling. However y'all interpret culture, cause it's subjective now, but I would assume that Kendrick Let me not say Kendrick. There's somebody had a talk some conversation with some people yeah, and there was a word on the curb in the great words of Melissa Ford and Yo dog, we were saying it. Hey, this is odd that this record won't leave number one Why is this like that shit? They ain't shoot a video. What did they do

besides press a button? We don't know. Maybe they spent some money. But when a record stays at number one all that time, these are clear indicators and he chose to, and I'm not getting back to his decisions during the beef, but he chose to focus on artists when that boy knew his real beef was higher than that it was higher than that but he knew that yeah but he's been saying yeah but you can put too much dip on your chip you can't but the arrogance can make you it can't happen he's not blind to the point that the beef ain't with the beef is higher up he's been telling us this for years yeah but you that's my thing you would be spending time on asap rocky and them if but you knew who you're Yeah, but you that's my thing you know time on ASAP Rocky and them if but you knew who you're in I don't think the way he was explaining it was like yo

Whoever to higher up is y'all got them together to all attack me It's still coming from above that is the label is so powerful. They're making the fall off look like it's self-inflicted That's true. That's how I agree with that Like he's still talented he still got it But there so they're teaching them such a big lesson that they're making the fall off. They put all these things in front of him. They're making it seem like it's him that's doing it.

He can't rap no more. Because a lot of people, what he's doing now, yes, it's to the culture where we from, yo, you ratting, you look nasty. But there's a lot of artists that wish that they could have done that. Not basically off of being dissed, but just go against a label that are moving things

and to make them look a certain way or helping the career go on a decline. My only beef with that is you had no problem when you were the main recipient. Of course, that's the only issue. I'm just saying. We see a lot of niggas lose to the labels. You sat there and talked like you was the king piece

on the chessboard, which you were. Okay. But now it's, it brings all of that in question because it's like, all right, so they, if you're telling us that they got the power to make you look where you can't succeed in music no more. Yeah. Are you also telling us that all of your success in music still came from them? Yes. Because your talent didn't change. The answer is yes. Yes and no. See that's my other problem with certain things that he says in the suit about just the systems in play and the business of how music moves that are now working against him.

Which says to me, well that means that you knew how they, not only did you know how they were working for you. You benefited. But yeah, but that's a given, but that's what you were running around taunting That you knew how they not only did you know how they were working for you you benefit but Yeah, but that's that's a given but that's what you were running around taunting in the streets along with I make the best music You know that your lawyer used to work for the prosecutor in the town or you know that dumb people behind you They got all the hammers. They're not even letting nothing push. He said some shit like uh Damn, I got a brain freeze right now. But yeah, that's my other issue with him. He knows. He knows. He knows. So I think that

and I'm not, I think that his knowledge is way more than our knowledge about what the goings on are. Right? Of course. So let's just say if he was the golden child and they was able to with his talent push a button and let him go during the beef they wasn't pushing a button on none of them songs which ones that he was putting out against with kendrick and the beef they wasn't pushing a button on the songs at all so now he might have information i'm just guessing that's saying yo y'all doing shit that's not just let it go and see what happens, but eh, y'all might be trying to mute my shit at the same time.

So they 100% probably gonna try to mute all of his shit or not mute, the record business is just gonna have other records be heard. So it's like a phase out. Yeah, instead of promoting yours. So I got seven songs. No, Drake used to job for you, everybody move, everybody move.

It wasn't just us saying it. That was a path being cleared. Now that he's on the other side, everybody we just dropping or nobody's dropping. We're going to freeze all this shit, but you won't, you won't benefit from shit. And so now he trying to go to internet route. I'm trying to put some shit out on. Oh, also wait, let me reply to you real quick. No, he never dropped a song. See, I'm not talking fan talk today. He never dropped a song. See, I'm not talking fan talk today. He never dropped a song.

Not once. Family Matters was released. It wasn't a song. It wasn't a song. It was a response? There was something that, listen, they fucked up the streets in the mixtape game,

so nobody know what's what now. But savvy people know the difference between you going in the studio and you making a song and you put it out on your own versus Something that's being worked by millions of people like that is a song. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. This is on someone's album People have hands invested in this. This is an artist that is largely responsible for some market share. I'm talking about Future now. And then you add Kendrick.

That is a song being worked. Drake was just home rapping and pressing buttons and uploading. There was nobody, it was him on his own. Then Kendrick comes back with fucking what it, everything that he did was attached to something where other arms and tentacles are working this. The only one that wasn't was probably 6 six, six 16 in LA and meet the ground.

Shit that I like. Uh, but euphoria, euphoria. That was all released except for six 16. Dog. The only ones that matter are like that and not like us. Those are the two that matter. But I'm agreeing. But all of those other songs that y'all said wasn't released was still at the top of the charts. So how did that happen?

What do you mean wasn't released? Because Joe was saying it was only. He said it wasn't released. No, they weren't released. He said they weren't worked. They weren't worked. They weren't worked. They not worked.

It's just you on your own uploading to Dat Piff. So you think that organically all, because at some point he had like five or six songs in the top ten who can't read He had like four or five songs in the top ten. Yeah like that. I like us your forie all of them was oh Yeah, everybody was I mean Drake's records was in there, too Yeah, it ain't like the Drake's records didn't pop up on there as well people were listening back and forth to these songs They just don't stay they don't stay they don't stay you have don't stay. They don't stay. You have to pay to stay.

Gotcha, okay. No, I'm not. You might get enough people on your own to pop up. I'm asking for information, I'm not saying. And a lot of times what happens is they hear something and this shit is a bop. Oh shit, this could go. Like when Not Like Us dropped, it was a bop.

Niggas was up dancing. I remember just the initial reaction video, this ain't no belaybo saying, yo, do this, do that. People was like, oh shit, he gave us something that we could actually do. They said California shut down. Yeah, so now as a label, if I see that, oh shit. Now we're gonna put some money behind it.

We're gonna go put some money behind it. Also in his shit, he's saying, y'all cut off the monetization for reaction videos to not like us, which incentivized people to make them or yada yada yada yada. And I'm like, okay, so they had a good idea. Not only did they have a good idea, they're well within their right to flick off monetization for who they see fit and what song.

This is not the first time it's happened. Just some of them salute to y'all and hit me. They turn it off for episode or two. They do that. When it's yours, which is what happens when you surrender your rights, they can do that. And this is also them playing the streamer game now. Now the labels is seeing, okay,

this streamer shit is really out here. It's a major deal. Now it's free promo. This is the next step. So now it's like, okay, yeah, let's incentivize the streamers to push our song for free. But not just the streamers, any video. If it's a TikTok, if it's a whatever,

and you cut it off. I'm talking about the reaction video part. When that word got out there that, yo, they are letting us use this song in the reaction videos, it's going to incentivize more people to make the reaction video. And it's free marketing the promo for them. This is a smart move from a company. I'm not disagreeing with you.

It's just a genius move that he put in there. And it's like, oh my god, you're doing all the Karen shit. But if they wasn't, true, it is some Karen shit. It's some, it's some, it's some brat shit. It's some bratty shit. Like, yo, y'all wouldn't let me do this, but y'all let him do it. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I tried to put my videos out, y'all suppressed it, and y'all took it down off Instagram, but y'all let him do what he was doing. It's some, it's some, it's some brat shit. Like, I'm used to doing this. Y'all said no to was doing. It's some, it's some, it's some brat shit. Like I'm used to doing this. Y'all said no to me now. It's bratty shit. But if it's actually happening

and he can prove that it's happening, then it changes the argument. Was the monetization just for- It goes from- He's not gonna be able to prove it. He's not gonna be able to prove it. I think he is, but- It goes from business to now-

It's not winning harassment- It goes from culture to now business. If he's able to prove that you guys intentionally did this, he has an argument. We have to stop acting like he doesn't have an argument. We're talking about two different lawsuits too. You guys are talking about the first one. Why do you think he doesn't have an argument?

Because he won't have an argument. There is no argument in any of the things that I read is what I'm saying. Got it. What you're describing is the music business. Understood. When I got to Def Jam. Okay, I was gonna add, yeah.

When I got to Def Jam, I was trying to have my records work. Me, Webb, Nitties, Gang, shout out to the Gang. We were trying to have our records work and we were having a hard time. The lesson back then for me was, the radio niggas coming and saying, yo, you go and talk to your label.

They've sent us 13 records that have to be played before yours and unfortunately for you, that's Javru, DMX, Ludacris, fucking Method Man, Ghostface had a smash back. It was a long list of people that you had to, Javro, DMX, Ludacris, fucking Method Man, Ghostface had a smash back. Like it was a long list of people that you had to, Jay Z, we gotta get these two records on. Oh, oh, got it.

I'm in competition with, all right, they just saying what's the, the label is gonna label them. The label is not your personal concierge. But if you had an opportunity, if you had a, if you wasn't rolling with street niggas and you had an opportunity to sue them for that, you wouldn't have sued them for that

if you had the knowledge of the Americans. You couldn't have sued for it. That's my point, there is nothing to sue them for. But I think we conflate in this. In his particular instance, and I didn't read it, so, and his defamation thing is, fam, y'all calling me a pedophile on a national, fuck national, y'all calling me a pedophile on a national, fuck national, y'all calling me a pedophile

on a global stage. That can be looked at as defamation. So can he be sued for defamation for calling Kendrick a woman beater on a record prior to that? Like my whole thing is like, bro, niggas have been saying shit. You saying yes, he can be looked at as defamation.

If Universal put money behind Drake's album, where he's saying something about Kendrick's family or Kendrick's wife or Kendrick's whatever, yeah. Why are we acting like the word, the PDF, why are we acting like the PDF word is just some regular stand you can wipe off? It's not. That's what I was saying. It's not a regular stand you can wipe off.

People be turning the blind out of that part. This shit could be detrimental to your career of being known as that. Who's listening? Respectfully, I have no problem with anybody who's on that side of the fence. That's just not my hip hop. That's not my hip hop.

That's not the hip hop I come from. Has anybody? That is not the worst thing that's ever been said in a diss record or beef. But it's the worst thing that's happened. That in a diss record or beef but it's the worst thing that's happened that's one to my DV stain by the way also you say what a DV state is also if you look at hip-hop and battles and stuff like that we've seen what 50 did the Ja Rule like we've seen different things that had effect these movements that had effect on people in their career.

Now we's watching another one where niggas actually saying. If 50 Cent would have sued Ja Rule for anything that he would have said, it would have turned out different. Of course, but he's different. It's the same for J Nas. Of course, I get it. Ja is saying the same thing.

Anybody. I get it. But Eazy-E, Dr. Dre, like go listen to the Eazy-E, Dr. Dre beef again. And the new shit is he, is he, new shit, is he suing Kendrick? No, he's suing Universal directly. That's what I'm saying. Just Universal.

He's not suing Kendrick. He's not suing Kendrick. He didn't list in the defamation any of the streamers? They weren't? No, what he's using, he's not suing their reference. Okay, their reference, okay. He's using the captions that they used because he's including that when the house got shot at and the security guard got shot

mm-hmm that them having the picture of the house with the Address the number they put the address. Yeah, just they had the picture the house with the little arrows on it like like sex offenders live there Yes, that one that Incentivized people to attack him That's what he's claiming I that incentivized people to attack him. That's what he's claiming. I think he got a claim. I think he has a claim and I think- I'm now, I'm sorry.

I'm now with the violence, right? I'm now with nobody crib getting shot up. I think it also said the day after somebody was trying to dig a hole and dig a tunnel through his crib and yada yada yada yada. But I want to say, shit, I watched that house be built for however many years. One, that house has been featured in every fly magazine that there is. He's also himself divote stories of fans attempting to break in his home while while he's had guests

while he's had company. I assume that that comes with being one of the biggest stars in the world. One on the flip side whenever him and I got into whatever we got into and them fans showed up to my house he incentivized that he cheered them on he put them on a public platform He applauded that behavior and that's my other beef with the Karen move Because if you were Karen be a Karen But you're cold switching because you had to game with you running around with this nigga that has been threatening Kendrick saying I'm a kill you I'm gonna do XYZ you want to get cool with I'm not naming no names But you know who you running around with and you know what you're doing and you know what you're threatening So if you'd act and be that

But don't be that and also Carrying out see that's my problem. That's my that's part of the not like us Foundation that he was building that part right there cuz you run around being being mob ties, mafioso, all of this other shit, saying you know what he been saying. He put it on a song, he put it on a recent record. You know what he been saying. So you're doing all of that, and then this is your retaliation when something happens.

He's playing both. I just don't like that. He's playing both sides, it's nasty in the sky. What if he's speaking for the people who always wanted to go against the label? That he's not speaking for them. This is all very self-centered. What if he's standing up for those people?

What if he's saying that I am the one that can change this? I am the one. That's not his incentive. It don't matter. What will change? Sorry, man. I'm sorry. I didn't hear you, man.

I was just gonna say, that's not his incentive. Okay. I understand what you're saying. But I was with that with the first lawsuit. Yeah, me too. Even though I thought it was bullshit, I was with that. I'm still with this one. But once you drew that and now are claiming defamation and harassment. Because we've been hearing about the latest shit for years.

I'm with this one too. The Super Bowl is coming up in a month. I don't want you to get on the biggest national platform in the world and say I'm a pedophile. I took it there. Ice. We come up here and say you can't. That's your argument. I don't have nothing to do with what he talking about with the label. If y'all niggas is putting money behind a record that's claiming I'm a pedophile, I have a problem with y'all doing that. It does have something to do with that. It has a lot to do with that. It has nothing to do with

the label. We don't get him called a pedophile. We don't know that we get that. We don't know that. We are here. You opened a door and you didn't like what came out the door. So what? I'm not suing Kendrick Lamar. I'm suing the record label that is promoting me being a fucking pedophile. And I feel like I have a problem with the label promoting an album that says I'm a pedophile.

He can have that feeling. He can have all the feelings he wants. Kendrick can have a feeling about him saying, yo, you beat your wife. And you beat your wife. And your kids ain't your kids. It's foul shit. And if Kendrick wanted to sue Universal for putting marketing dollars behind that, then Kendrick will be well within his right to do so. And so I have a question about the cold of. Let me just jump in real quick. Well within your right to do so, yes, but no other artist would think about doing it because it's the end of your career. The

same way it's gonna be the end of his career. That's a choice. He gotta make that bed lie in it. You know what I'm saying? He gotta make that bed lie in it. I'm just saying, but I don't think, especially when it comes, if he sued Kendrick, he would be the fucking goof of the goofiest.

But that's my biggest question is if he's- Is it still the goof of the goofiest? Yes. If he's filing a defamation- Not against the machines, yo. Yeah. Not against the machine. So those of y'all running with that, running with that. No, I'm with you, but I'm with you.

Sorry, Mel. Excuse me. I'm with you. I understand what you're saying. But I also understand how these infrastructures are put in place to make people look away and to fuck up things in front of the masses. I'm aware of these things.

I hear the complaints all the time. You hear them all the time. Nigga, Michael tried to go against, so many people we can name that try to go against the system and the machine and loss. Now we have a nigga that says, yo, I feel like I'm in a position to go against the machine and maybe the machine put it in a way where it looks like

he's on a downhill because of the issues between them. So now the mass is looking like, well, he's falling off and that's why he's doing it, but maybe he's not even falling off for real. They did that with Michael Jackson. Maybe they just made it like that and we've seen this for years

and now somebody is stepping up to say, I'm not gonna allow you to do this. I think he gonna lose though, but. Me too, I think he's gonna lose, but I'm just, you know, I'm witnessing. And I still think the record gets played at the Super Bowl. The only one that has lost and continues to lose in this. Is the artist.

Is him. Is him, okay, I agree with that. And I just wish that he would find a different way to address all of his grievances. I don't think so. Again, this is above my pay grade. So do we just accept the abuse? I don't pretend to know.

Do we just accept the joke? But dog, dog, what y'all call abuse, have at it, bro. You enter the battle, things were said, you got hurt more than the other person. True indeed. If this is how you choose to deal with that, and you instigated the fight, and another nigga hit harder than you.

I agree. But I was here when it was, hey, nah nah nigga, I've been hearing about these threat records from over there for mad years, so now is the time. I got time, I'm waiting, I'm not letting you escape. Like you persistent in that. Insigated. And it came from a fairly vanilla diss on the future record, really.

Is just big me led to this? That's what- Nah, they been shooting at each other for years and years and years. But it wasn't nothing. It didn't have to get it. They have to get the pedophile. You ain't gotta get personal. It's a friendly fate. Keep it that way like and he's citing the lyrics. I read the lyrics in the shitty. He's like in euphoria. He says, Don't tell no lies about me and I won't tell truth about you, which has the public thinking that everything being said is indeed true and yada, yada, yada, yada.

I'm like. It's nasty, bro. I don't know. Y'all can have it, yo. Y'all can have it. Y'all can say what y'all want. It's just saying, it ain't my hip hop. Maybe I aged out of this shit faster than I thought I would.

But all this shit that y'all doing, it ain't, no, no, not for me. I love it too much. Part of my confusion is also, if he's filing the, the petition made a lot more sense, but if he's filing a defamation claim against UMG, why isn't Kendrick named?

Because he's saying, from what my understanding is, and y'all could correct me if I'm wrong, he's saying that Universal basically put steroids to the record. I understand that and I completely understand it but he but Kendrick's the one who said it. He's trying to keep his foot still in hip-hop. He's trying to keep his foot still in the culture as far as the niggas that he roll with that would be frowned upon. I think he's completely lost sight of how he looks. I think it's a desperation attempt by him to silence the song at the Super Bowl.

That's it. Absolutely. I think Drake has billions of dollars of business worldwide that he is counting on to provide for whatever. And I think those business deals now become, they get jeopardized by somebody calling you a pedophile on a worldwide stage. And even with that, that song might be pushing people to believe that.

Can I ask you one quick question? What do you say to Drake himself on the TaylorMade freestyle using the Pac AI saying, talk about him liking young girls. I heard it on a button podcast, it's gotta be true. That's the first time this is mentioned on record. Before Not Like Us, I'm just saying, you yourself are saying, yeah, yeah, you're basically, you keep poking.

He's being sarcastic, saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, nigga, go ahead and talk about, yeah, okay, so I did it. Careful what you wish for. I'm just, I just wanna get your response nigga, go ahead and talk about, yeah, okay. So I did it. Careful what you wish for. I just wanna get your response. Yo, I think me and you having two separate conversations. I'm talking about global business. I'm not talking about a street fight between me and you when I'm calling your mother names and all that other shit.

I'm talking about on a global business level, my nigga, when people are running around saying that you are having sex with children, it is disparaging. So, but then, and that means that y'all kind of are having the same talk, because one affects the other. That's what I'm trying to get. Supposedly. No, we can see.

No, he's saying. And, and, cool. In order. Cool, Kendrick can say whatever he want. Again, I'm telling you that Drake is equal. Bro, I'm not. Drake and Kendrick are the same. He said the nigga beats his wife.

Nigga, you said I beat my wife. If I never beat my, you said my kid ain't mine. Yeah, my kid is my best friend's kid. Not even just not mine. Yeah, you said my manager fucked my wife and that's his kid. That's true.

I'm telling you that they are the same. That was creative, but that was foul. I'm not disagreeing. I thought about that while listening to it. I was like, damn, that's a foul. That's a wild shit. I thought the same thing. That's a wild shit. They were mudslinging. They was mudslinging. And also about that while listening to him. That was wild. That was wild shit. I thought the same thing. That's wild shit.

There was mudslinging. There was mudslinging. And also, I think that there's a different perception from both people as to what the rules of engagement were. Jake really likes the goalpost move for him. Yes. And it's clear. I think that, I think Universal's involvement in this is the underlying piece.

Okay, so let me read- Like, I think he's accustomed to Universal pushing a button for him, and they didn't. So let me read Universal's response. So now I see you pushing a button for another motherfucker. I'm tight. Real quick before you read that, it's not just they push the button,

they also silent shit for him. Yeah, that's the point. That's what he's used to. Yes. He's used to Universal moving, changing the rules for him. There was records that people said shit that he didn't like, that he made a call, and then they made a call,

and this got to come off this song. That's my point. It happened to him. He couldn't take it happening to him. I'm not disagreeing with that piece, but when the label push the button on your shit, silence my shit, and your shit happens to be one of the most disparaging things in the world,

if I want to get your shit silenced, and I think I got enough power to do so, I'm going to go to the court. That's what motherfuckers do in business. I agree with Ish that a large part of this is not having not like us play to the Super Bowl. Yeah, I think that's the main piece. I've been hearing some things, Universal ain't the only people that he's acting like this with.

Oh yeah, no I know. There's other shit going on outside. When you Karen publicly, I gotta assume that you Karen privately as well. That's part of the Karen profile. That you calling behind the scenes, yada yada yada. And if you look at certain things, like if you look at the last two Super Bowl half times,

that was what, Usher and Rihanna, right? The promo for them was a lot. You ain't seen much promo for this one. Outside of the rollout video, it's been really quiet for promo video for this halftime show. That's a good point. That's a great point. Why?

Because behind the scenes, he's discussing shit with NFL lawyers. Now factor that in. What just dropped a couple weeks ago? Wait, what? His line with the NFL. Whose line? Drake's. Oh yeah.

I don't know where. Just popped up and dropped. Just start doing the math. It's big boy games What I will say to that and I agree with that. That's deep. That's big boy watching the Typically, I'm used to the NFL doing their October announce Chillin and then because we focused on the playoffs and in the Super Bowl coming in It's a big deal when I was seeing that promo for Usher, I think for me, I could be off,

it was a lot of that tied to Apple, with the Apple. Apple has the halftime show. Apple does the halftime. Yeah. Got it. Got it. Like, remember when Nas and Jay was going at it? Nas had a thing where he was gonna hang Jay at Summer Jam.

They silenced it. Dame Dash admitted, yo, I silenced that shit. Nigga, you not gonna hang my man on those stage. Dame publicly said he went to Hot 97 and told them niggas, if y'all allow that shit to go down. Huh? That was power. No, it was Hot 97.

It was summer jam. It was like, yo, if y'all allow that shit to go down, we gon' retaliate. Y'all not gon' be getting our shit. Y'all not gon' be, whatever he had to do and say to get that shit to go away, I think that's just big boy games. And we watch all of these shows.

We watch billions, succession, all of these shows. All of that shit happens in big business. Dog, I hear the night. I think it's sucker shit from our perspective, how we were raised. Like, yo, you don't do that. You take the bumps and bruises that come along with the fight.

But when you got billions of dollars and all that shit on the table. And be clear as we, y'all all keep saying, Drake ain't from where we from. We expecting the nigga to potentially play by rules that we have sometimes ignorantly adopted as a way of moving around, but he don't necessarily have to adopt those rules. Then don't mob-tie me to death.

That's my beef with mob-ties Drake. I miss Drake. Like there's too many artists that are suffering from an identity crisis or begin to lose themselves when they get in this shit. I miss original Drake. Yes, the nigga with the blackberry and the corny t-shirts that couldn't dress with no beard,

that everybody just wanted to get next to and get some of that corny sauce. Y'all knew that nigga wasn't like us, but he had the magic touch. That guy, that guy that made people, that when they collabed, they was joining his world. The guy that said, nigga, I'ma give you the verse and the hook,

look, that's what every song sound like. Drink, nigga, I'ma give you the verse and the hook. Look, that's what I be fallin' sound like. Drake, featuring Drake. Old him. This new caricature of himself, where, back to the not like us point that I don't want to continue to reiterate or emphasize, but all of this, I'm doing an album with him, I'm flyin' with him, I sound like him, the London drill, that is, yo, why did you try to fix what wasn't broken?

You don't think it's evolution? Or it's really, it's me being what I really wanted to be? I could really wanna be that. And the opposite of evolution is what? Regression. Because that's what I see it as. What evolved? Or maybe it evolved into something that was trash.

Yeah, I think it's... It sounds evolved. It doesn't, nothing about it is evolution to me. Gotcha. Okay. To me. When you go make a song with Popcorn in Jamaica and you could go make a song with another artist in London,

you could make a go song down south, you could go make a song with a pop artist or, what's the girl name? Sabrina? Sabrina Claudio? Yeah, like when you could do all of those different things, I don't necessarily know if Drake from yesteryear could do those things.

I think the evolution now, his personal persona is one thing. And I think too. I'm of the belief that Drake from yesteryear could do anything in the world that he wanted to musically. Gotcha. I wouldn't disagree with that.

And to the evolution point of music becoming global, because I recognize that I wouldn't have my point if he were the one still dictating those sounds to increase us globally, like the NBA doing a deal with China. But it seems like you, it seems like. You conform, you rode waves. Music is fickle. Dog, when Norrie was doing his reggae thone,

shit, man, him and Daddy Yankee, that shit was on fire. I was home looking at the clock, man, hurry this shit up. Dog, sometimes you have a record that's fire, I'm not speaking about Drake now, because he's bigger than life. But for the rest of us, we can have a record and be holding it in a tuck, and in a year,

the whole sound of music be totally different. Like, music is a lot about timing. So he conveniently, and not just conveniently, because now in hindsight, I feel like he got word from the curb from his business partners of what the target is. Just like when I was in Spotify or wherever, and them niggas would say, yo, India.

It's like, oh, got it. That's where the focus is. Yo, the population is this over there. So if we do that, we'll see a 10% increase. And they get back there and they start talking that shit. And if you are our streaming baby and we working in alignment, then dog, we are in jobs.

It's Barry Bond, yo, nothing could stop it. But now if you're not dictating those things, right? Like if he could go in the studio right now and do a one dance, which everybody here, I'm sure, believe that he can still make a one dance, why you not? I say yeah. Huh? I always say why you not.

Why you not? Gotcha. Why wouldn't you? That goes back to the concept of he's potentially holding all this material, which again, I think is a mistake. Because the world changes too fast. Music changes too fast. So if you're holding onto all these great songs

and great albums for when you get out of your contract, which you don't really have no definite date, that's a mistake. But not just that. Like when the, go ahead, you can finish. If the music is changing too fast, I think that it's a clever business move that he hops on each sound.

Yeah, I'm not. So that's what I'm saying. A lot of times, when Joe says that I miss the old Drake, I want that Drake, but I think it's actually clever. And you stay relevant, because a lot of artists, the sound becomes outdated. It's a trick. And we laugh at them.

But that's a trick. Not laugh, like ha ha ha. But that's the trick. Even if it's a clever one, Joe. It's a clever trick. It's just a risk. Wait, hold up. Yes, ha ha ha, but. But that's the trick. Even if it's a clever one, Joe. It's a clever trick. It's just a risk. Wait, hold up. Yes and no.

Okay, explain. Yes and no. Because it's still the program doing this. It's still the program. So why is Drake not on a Bad Bunny song right now? Or why is Drake not on a Bruno Mars song right now? Or an Adele song right now? Or a Bad Bunny song right now? Or why is Drake not on a Bruno Mars song right now, or an Adele song right now, or a Taylor Swift song right now, or any of them, the Premier, Post Malone,

whoever those Premier, they're gonna keep you off. The label is. The label is. We're gonna ice you out. So now when you go try to do it, because he's done it. I came in here and was the only one in the world that liked that shit with him and the Spanish dude or him and whoever that dude was

where I thought he got off in the verse. I played that shit up here. Came away. Came away. Nothing. Everything's coming and going. The white girl, he just did it. He went on a little run.

And the Brazilian. Bro, he's got records on the 100 gig shit that if they fucked with him would go. But yes, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about collaborations and the programs program. He could do whatever he want on his own, but they put him with the low racist white girl two times. Two times.

You heard them come out. You heard them shits. And then you never heard them again. For a second. It's very different than somebody powerful putting Rima with uh What's the Spanish girl that's on the hit?

Rima and uh That fucking white girl that's on and when he won everybody heard the song biggest song in the world I want to find somebody look it up Rima and one of them white girl They went up there one the Caribbean award, he brought her to the stage. Like these are intentional collaborations from people that are above the mascots. And we are the mascots. And at some point we expected Drake

to take a hove-like leap to businessman. And it's tough to have that talk with somebody that's as wealthy as him, but I'm speaking from his world. We were expecting him to take that, but he kept drinking the Kool-Aid of Universal and Lucien. They asked him, Lucien, hey, Drake called and asked for some money, he said it. Anytime Drake has ever called and asked for more money,

I give it to him. That's the Lucian grade A version of Lior taking me to the Nick game when Focus was out. And guess what, Joe? But when you don't- Stupid me, hey! But when you don't want this- The Knicks!

When you don't wanna go to the game no more and you want the box seats and you want equity and you start talking Jay-Z talk it's going to be pushback potentially from the same nigga that put his arms around you and said, yo, you can have anything I got. Because he's

never going to think that you're going to ask for what the fuck he really got! Well you talking about the one process. You take me to the game, what happens when I want a skybox. My own skybox. What I'm saying is, it starts with, hey man, why is that happening?

Right? Like a good businessman, you're part of the reason, walking out here, part of the reason I'm such a great spade player, hey, some of y'all out there know about me is because Whatever my opponent is trying to do. I figured it out I figured it out by the time the first two cards are placed the same in business in business Hey, you might get what you want. You might get your deal and be clear

I know that most of y'all and I know for a, most of y'all are back there asking for pennies, pebbles, and fruity, uh, what? Fruit Loops. Y'all not back there asking for shit, demanding shit. I'm not talking about Drake. He could be, he might have my point. But the rest of y'all niggas, y'all ain't back there really negotiating for nothing. Y'all are and have been happy with receiving a look and a hundred thousand dollars to for you to get by for your next six years and maybe get another hundred thousand from the publisher and now you got three hundred and we're gonna make you high and you go get your money on the road and and through brands. Y'all have been totally pleased with that. So it's like, yeah, if y'all are happy

being high priced mascots, which 98% of you are, then when the team get to change in the colors of the mascot outfit, you can't say, you just put that new outfit on. Wear that gold, nigga. Yo, there's nothing that you can say dog. This shit hurts. This shit hurts.

This is like the hip hop version of the fucking house seats. Like the seats that, hey these been dominated for 90 years and now we got this one small window to where we can make a change some and see these labels take a fall. And the few niggas that coulda did it y'all end up fighting with each other, taking a deal and only looking out for self.

There's no union in hip hop. There's no unity in hip hop. None of y'all know what culture mean. Actually, they've been telling y'all what culture mean because they own this shit now. This shit is a fucking mess. It is disgusting. And if you love this shit, it hurts.

It hurts. It does. I ain't mad to come in and fucking be vulnerable or sad about this shit. I'm saddened as a diss track king. As a nigga who loved to get on the mic and tell lies about my opponent. That was the shit nigga. Saigon got on the mic and said my kid was gay. He did. Nigga, I can name all of the things that people say, Lil B said I needed rogames.

I'm joking, that's not that bad. But horrible things get said, man. I just don't like the Karen play both sides. I don't like the aggressor and the victim, especially going through it. I just went through with these racist pieces of shit. I just see how the game is played with systems in place. And when it don't go your way we end up here. But forget about the effect or the

impact on everybody else. I hope that it plays out well for him. I honestly personally don't see how it can't. I don't see how it can't. Not saying it can't. Again above my pay grade. Let me ask you. Let me ask y'all one quick question. Do y'all still think Not Like Us gets played at the Super Bowl? Yes. I don't know if they say the line though. No, just the song. I definitely don't think they say it.

I bet they thought he was going to play the song. Dog, the beat has been played. The beat is at least coming up. The beat has been played in arenas. The organ player plays it at the Knick game. The beat is played. The song. Even if he don't say a word,

I always been on the side of he's gonna edit it. Intro shit is gonna come out. I always say he's gonna edit it and do it. But in the event I'm wrong and he don't say a word, the beat is gonna come on like Usher doing my way for five seconds just walking out to it. Yeah, I see that, that might be the intro. I see that people.

Yeah. And then be the intro. I see that people. Yeah. And then into whatever. His behavior is single-handedly making the legacy of Not Like Us. He's making it the greatest diss record of all time. It's so seven million. I wouldn't give a fuck.

I don't care about myself. I was never ready to call Not Like Us the greatest diss record of all time. It's getting harder and harder. It's solely his behavior that's making the legend of it. That's gross. That's a fact. What I was saying to you, you know, off camera, where I actually you're a man that goes against the system, right?

Especially now in your new life, you just you still keep that same sentiment. You don't give a fuck how high you are, I'ma go against you. If I feel that it's wrong, if I feel that's not right, if I feel I'm being treated unfairly, I'm gonna fight the system, no matter how many resources I have to use. So that's why to me, when you say it,

I understand what you're saying from a hip hop perspective, but from a business perspective, I don't understand why you're not understanding his angle. Right? Like, you're not gonna, if somebody, anything that anybody do to you, you're not taking the line down, especially with the new knowledge

that you gained over the years. You came up here and said all the time, yo, if I would have read these concerts, if I would have understand what they were doing back there, I would have moved totally different. And then now we have somebody that listens to you, that listened to everybody else and decided to move differently. So I would think that you, not from a hip hop perspective,

but, okay, I get what you're doing. A lot of niggas 50 sues everybody, so my man shout out to 5th. Niggas suing, take niggas to court. And a lot of things you may look at like, oh, taking them to court for that, but it's business. So that's just the confusing part when I hear you speak about it. Like you're speaking from a fan perspective, like, yo, I love Drake.

I miss the old Drake, don't do this because I'm a dis-recorded king. But then I'm not hearing you speak from the business side of how things could be put in place to destroy you. And that's just, that's the confusion for me when I hear you speak about it. If I smoke the weed and it's fentanyl in it, I face the repercussions. It's hard for me to empathize when you

have been complicit with the system for so long and reap the benefits and gotten paid and gave everybody your ass to kiss and fucked everybody's girl and said I'm taking a piece of your contract and I'm taking a piece of your contract and I'm not clearing this record and you take that record off of there. Like it's hard to empathize with somebody who's been down for the cause.

Again, above my pay grade. For me, I've always been pretty transparent in where I stand in terms of independence and why. And that's no matter what, that's a forever thing. I don't like going before a judge and the judge having the final say on what the rest of my life looks like. I don't like going to work and them saying,

hey, if you don't have a song in the next 10 days, you're out of here. I don't like going to work and saying, hey, we saw a blog, so you're fired, fuck you. I don't like going to work and saying hey, we saw a blog. So you're fired. Fuck you I don't like complex firing me while I have a baby coming in the same week I that's an uncomfortable and uneasy feeling for me. I much rather sleep with eating what I hunt and Not missing what I never had and for me it's worked out Cool. That's for me.

With all of this shit that's happened, maybe y'all can answer it, I still don't think it's transparent as to what Drake's end goal is, like what he wants. I don't think it's transparent what anybody's been doing behind closed doors, whether that's Drake or Universal. I think that if Drake went public,

whatever information he has, and told if he had proof of XYZ going on, we might look at it in a different way. It's possible. To what Joe was saying before, and to what Flip is saying, I think that Drake and Universal have always been buddy-buddy.

Chummy-chummy. And now, like Drake and Universal have always been buddy-buddy. Chummy-chummy. And now, like Drake and LeBron, like Drake and Damar DeRozan, you not doing what we was doing before, our relationship has changed, and so now I'm looking at you like the, I think that could potentially have happened, or we seeing that it happened.

And now he on an offensive with a nigga that you might have been fly with before. Him and Lucian might have never had an opportunity for him to see the things from the perspective that you've seen him, because he's never endured what you've endured. You wasn't the media darling at Complex. You were for a second until they couldn't use you.

No, until they couldn't use you no more and your information got up and you asked for something else. That might be where he is in his journey right now. I'm not knocking him. You know what I'm saying? So how he responds to it, somebody could have potentially said, yo, Joe did some bullshit. You have admittedly said, yo, I'm

trying to burn this whole bitch down. You get what I'm saying? That might be where he is right now. I think the line in the sand for most of them. Go ahead. And when I do, or when anybody decides to make those decisions, you get on the phone with your team or your attorney, and if they're competent, plenty of times they said to me,

okay. Sit your dumb ass down. No, no, they're your team. They supposed to advise you. If you do this, this is what can potentially be the back blow. True. And I think he might be the back blow. True. And I think he might be willing to deal with it. And I think his arrogance level,

being where he is at a 40 year old, a 30 something year old man, 40 year old man, I think he might need to be shown. Though everybody never got punched in the face before, man. And so until a nigga punch you back and they might hit harder than you, it's a lesson that you might have to learn in your growth and in your journey. And this might be the punch. And does he care anymore about

being accepted by the core audience of hip-hop, right? Yes, he does. This shit change every day. Weird. Isn't he trying to like... He isn't engaged in the battle if he doesn't care about the hip-hop. No, I get it. I said anymore. I think he tried, he may try to be appealing to the younger audience. They don't care about anything. All they care, they don't care about shit. That song he just released didn't say, I don't care about what they think about me. What do you, which one? The little freestyle shit he just did.

That don't say that. That freestyle shit says, I care. Yeah, yeah, word. I give a fuck. Oh, you're talking about the LeBron joint? Yeah. Oh, allegedly. Fine Irish.

Got it, okay. And the one before that. Yeah, the whole Scary Hours. All that shit. I care. Yeah, it's all alchemist and conductor. Oh, you're talking about the LeBron joint? Yeah. Oh, allegedly. Got it, okay. And the one before that? Yeah, the whole Scary Hours. All that shit, I care. Yeah, it's all Alchemist and Conductor, like, yeah. I care. And I'ma show y'all.

We watch a lot, like I said, with the new audience, new fans, the rules and morals and principles of yesteryear are no longer. That's true. Right, with the new fans, they don't give a fuck. Oh, you're still Koshy, they don't care about that shit. They came this is Akashi. Oh, they don't care. They don't care about that shit. They came home, got on the salt. They don't care about that.

They may not care about a code, but do you think that they care about what's considered corny? No, they don't think so. They don't follow. And it ain't just the new fans either. Because I just let me finish. He right. Ross being outed as a corrections officer both in the 90s We've ended him We didn't give a fuck Because the slaps kept coming

It's a lot of crooked I know it is I know it is and if his ties I'm aware could could dispel that I'm not on that side of the law, Ross could've got it off. He didn't even have to because they didn't care. That's my point. Yeah, like the shit that we talking about right now, I think we a minority. Absolutely.

Looking at this like some Karen shit or looking at it like you borderline ratting or snitching or whatever the case may be. I think we're a minority in that and I think that also goes along with our age demo. I think that's also we're a minority because of his popularity. I think if this was a much less popular artist they would all be the same way they jumped on Gunna's back. But did they? They did. We're in a minority because today, we fans of hip hop. Yeah. Today they fans of the person.

Correct. So we riding with you no matter what. Right. That's the difference today. A lot of, they don't give a fuck. Like you can look corny, so what? We gonna ride with you. Gunna sold out Madison Square Garden twice.

He did, true. I don't know if they jumped on his back. He came home, he was home about six months? I wanna jump in on you guys' minority conversation. Because I think all of that is contingent upon how you view the minority. Like y'all are just talking numerically. In masses, yeah.

Y'all are just talking numerically, right? In numbers, in numbers, yeah, numbers. But isn't that where hip hop is today? Stop it. It's about numbers, but stop it for a second. Let me think my brain is fucking Cluster and that's my problem with the number one urban podcast that hip-hop to some is not only the minority but

very small insignificant urban black only the minority, but very small, insignificant, urban, black, not a factor because of numbers, right, and population and market share and all of that stuff. When I go get to talking, I argue the strength in that because of what culture and that minority dictates. True, I agree with that. So yes, it is small. But powerful. Smaller, minority, right?

But depending on how you view the strength of that minority, we are the ones that dictate, I'm speaking for my beliefs only right now. We are the one, well, I'm saying, y'all can speak for yourself. We are the ones that dictate what's fly, what's hot, what's fashionable, what can sell, what can we drive the numbers back there. We're just not allowed to go back there in the room and have access to the fax machine. So I go back there and they're going

to always try to minimize you with, yeah you're the number one urban or you're the number one in hip-hop or your demo is only black. If I go get to telling these black people what's going on and they get to make an enough ruckus the same way every one of your companies and corporations see everything, every tweet, every reel, every y'all got on design tech and programs to watch everything that we buy, everything that we say, how we cuff our sweats, how we y'all know what time it is. I know what time it is when I go on Botega and buy some shit and the price went up for the last time I went in it. Yes, because I came in here and bought 17 of these motherfuckers and then went on my show they did that shit. I know when the price spikes be happening and why they happen. I'm

speaking only for my belief. So yeah, I speak for these black people, but do you have any other black people on your on your network? What are you doing? Black people. So yeah, the minority is powerful and strong. Yeah, counterculture always has 1000. Regardless of race or gender or whatever. I agree that wholeheartedly is small but powerful, I agree. Pause, if the pause is two. And there's some people that don't view it that way. Listen, there's the team of the super wealthy,

all them niggas being friendly, they getting together now, they busting each other flowers, buying each other lunch, fucking Elon and Jeff and fucking Zuck and I imagine that that team is gonna grow with Trump and all of that. Listen, they, I mean, I forgot the point I was getting at just now. Like I forgot why I brought that up.

Minority shit, powerful. I'm just saying, you gotta get to companies and find out what side of the fence they on. Like I'm making my business to find out how a company feels about a black person and a black person ascending. Now I'm off on a whole nother tangent, but it is a little bit related, right?

And there's some that's gonna put a ceiling over you and look at you like you have the fucking audacity when you come in here. And there's some that they're gonna honor certain things because there's a whole bunch of white people out there where we vibing off shared and similar experiences. I'm real fly with this white dude in the building. Shout out to the people in the building listening. We got podcast fans in there. Yeah! Yeah!

I'm real fly with this white boy from Bensonhurst. We ain't gonna talk about white or black. We got shared experiences. You got jumped over there, I got jumped over here. It was rough coming up, you're pulling that money, you left it, it's just, it's shit, it's not about that. So, again, off on a tangent, I don't remember how I got there, but important to find out how they will view you and that's gonna tell you how they gonna view your reach, your communication, who you talk to.

And your, yeah. You're stealing? Yeah, man, this shit hurts. Oh, that was my point. Get this shit off. When you was talking about the Jay-Z shit, Jay-Z come from a different background. Absolutely. He does.

Jay-Z has always been a CEO. Any nigga that's outside selling drugs, you are the CEO of your own company. You dictate what and how much money you can accumulate, and you're gonna also dictate the risks associated with your decisions. You're gonna dictate how to manage the money, how to manage the re-up.

That's inventory control. All of that shit is you literally running your own corporation. So when you look at Drake, that's always been quote unquote. Coddled. Almost an employee, right? He's not an employee, but he almost is an employee because he keeps taking the check.

Just putting him in position. So now we'll just shut you up. I'm gonna just give you more money and you're gonna go away. So now I think he has enough money to where he might wanna step into the CEO shoes and to your point, the audacity of you, when I just gave you $400 million, nigga,

to wanna get a piece of this pie. No, your ceiling is here. You gonna stay an artist at all times. And don't come looking for nothing else. And I think these may be some of the fights he's having now that Jay never had. Well, I agree. And I put a little bit of this on him

because we in the information era, right? I can see them saying that. I can see them saying that to him. Hey, you wanna be a boss? Congratulations, you won't do it here. So now you got to go to like 50 didn't do it through music. They did a pie of where all his income is. He didn't do it through music. Kanye didn't do it through music.

Puff didn't do it through music. None of the people that you could figure out, none of the examples that we have. Rihanna didn't do it through music. Nobody that's getting it today, music is your opportunity. And with that comes opportunity cost. It's going to be on you one day, and to your point, maybe he's there right now. But it's on you one day to leave that comfy living room with the couch and

the big screen and the masseuse and the charcuterie and get out there and get it down with all of who you are. With all of your star power and your fucking, oh my God, I'm sad. Well, this was the response from UMG and it's from all of, you know, from all of you. Put your reading glasses on, Big Mal. Get them readers. Put the readers on, Big Mal. Who they playing with?

You really look like a librarian. Who they playing with, Big Mal. Get them readers. Put the readers on. Who they playing with? You really look like a librarian. Who they playing with, Big Mal? Hello, Mrs. Ford. Shit, I'll take a book from her. And they'll bring the books back. They'll bring the books back if Mal up there, Big Mal. All right, check it. Well, the gloves are off according to this response.

Is this new? It's all new. Everything's new, yeah. Not only are these claims untrue, but the notion that we would seek to harm the reputation of any artist, let alone Drake, is illogical. We have invested massively in his music and our employees around the world have worked tirelessly

for many years to help him achieve historic commercial and personal financial success. Throughout his career, Drake has intentionally and successfully used UMG to distribute his music and poetry, to engage in conventionally outrageous back-and-forth rap battles, to express his feelings about other artists. He now seeks to weaponize the legal process to silence an artist's creative expression and to seek damages from UMG for distributing that artist's music. We have not and do not engage in defamation

against any individual. At the same time, we will vigorously defend this litigation to protect our people and our reputation, as well as any artist who might directly or indirectly become a frivolous litigation target for having done nothing more than write a song. And that's why I'm saying- Very well said.

Like, everything universal, give me, is up and it's stuck. It's not, let's amicably see if we can, let's have a mediator, let's see if we can rectify. They passed that. No, it's like you got us fucked up. They seem like enough for you now. Which is odd. No, I don't think so. I don't think so.

You don't think that they're tired of the brat just I don't, I think that he might be throwing tantrums and stomping his fucking feet? Or we done had them conversations and the line is drawn. Ain't no budget no more. Okay then nigga, it's up. Do what you gotta do.

You know how you talk to somebody like, all right, that's what it is? All right, you do what you gotta do then. Oh no, they call that best and final. Highest and best. They call that best and final. Once. Highest and best. They call that best in final. Once that's said on the phone, let's all go to our corners,

see what we ain't. I think he got back that best in final and didn't like it and had enough the same way and got mad like we all get mad. And now I'm gonna go and I'm gonna go show you a hundred gigs and no face, no face no face no face I like that no face. I said it when they dropped. If no face would have came out with record support with label support circadian rhythm record support out of here. No face is out of here.

But poor Khaled don't know what to do for an album. That's album I'm waiting on. We keep talking about Kendrick, Future Week, and all of a sudden that nigga, where is Khaled out? Dirk is gone. Everybody gone. We gonna see? And Dirk. Oh my Lord. And you really tight if you him, if he can't get out the deal.

Y'all still holding me and I don't wanna be in. We beefing? What's your thought? Yo. You over there feeling like a cage. We gave you half let you go? You over there feeling like a cage. We gave you a half a billion dollars. You over there feeling like a cage bird. We turn it over.

We'll turn the contract over for life. Yeah, like you over there feeling like. Perpetuity. And I think that might be part of his plea too. I mean, yo, let me go. No. No. And that's my other line though.

You frustrated. Yo. No, no. And that's my other line though. You frustrated. Yo, and again, this might be a culture thing or you might've missed this in your travels. At some point you gotta learn, if you learn how to win, you have to learn how to lose. But you have to learn how to lose. This is on track for him though. If you learn how to win, you have to learn how to lose. This is on track for him though. If you learn how to win, you have to learn how to lose.

Dog, even, go on. Look, there's a such thing as, hold on, let me have your back. There's a such thing as losing gracefully. I know. There's a such thing as after the loss, we go and we do the dab up the line and yada yada yada. Like, and if you just take the loss

and you run back to the locker room, you start throwing shit, you hook off on somebody, yeah, that's not how you lose. And the championship guards, see again, there's spade guards, there's monopoly guards, if you believe in the universe, there's gods to these things. And if you play bad, you get bad hands. If you lose bad nigga we won't send a win in your direction if you believe that if you believe that I

do. You got to learn how to lose. I disagree. This is not how you lose this is just a really bad way to lose. Joe you're missing something this is what he does. Go back to the Degrassi days. No. Listen, listen, listen. He was on a Degrassi show. He shot his ass. Shot him in a wheelchair. In the back. And you know what?

He threatened legal action to get out the wheelchair. And do you know why? Because he said, yo, I'm trying to rap, and this is going to make me look weak in rap if my character on TV is in a wheelchair. That's crazy that he doesn't think this makes him look weak though. But it worked though.

They came, you know, that's the thing. So if, when I don't get my way. Yeah, but it was such a small scale back then. Well that's part of the Karen profile. Exactly. That is part of the Karen profile. So this is who you've always been. Su, su, su.

This ain't new. Get my way, get my way, get my way. This ain't new. Yeah, but I mean, shit, it worked. Man. That's what, I'm looking at y'all like, it worked. Why? What did I say? I ain't never lost.

So this is my, this is my go-to. I don't have to know how to lose. Michael Jordan is a sore loser. Kobe Bryant is a sore loser. Every nigga that's a great is a sore loser. Them niggas don't lose gracefully and they look at you like you crazy if you lose gracefully. How dare you come back to this locker room and not be pouting I disagree with Michael and Kobe not losing gracefully I totally disagree with

that. I feel like Kobe was very vocal about Kobe was in the gym that night. Both of them Michael Jordan was punching niggas in they face in the locker room bro it wasn't no losing gracefully for the niggas that are great. They don't lose gracefully, Joe. Competitor, Joe, competitor. In the public eye, I think they lost more gracefully than what we know really happened. No competitor made a death because you're

naming real competitors and the loss adds to what makes them great with what they do with it. No, I agree. That's all I'm saying. No, I'm agreeing with that piece, but you said they move gracefully. Mike got his ass, Nick Anderson took the ball, kicked Michael Jordan in the back of his ass,

moved, quit, scored a layup, sent him home. No, he didn't do all of that. What was that, my phone? But Nick, they sent him on, they sent him on his way when he came back in his return season. Hey, get the fuck out of here, you rusty bitch. That's what he did.

And he came back and, shit, wasn't that the, that was the second of the three? Second three. The first and the second of the three? Yeah. You gotta take that. You lost, they came back and whipped a magic ass. Yep.

They beat the magic ass. Well, Mike say I took it personally. I'm taking it personally. Dennis Scott come on the court. Nigga. Get the fuck out of here. Doug, when the Lakers lost to Boston, Colby said, yo, he was fucked up, bro. He was fucked up.

Like, yo, I could have lost to anybody but them. I was fucked up. To y'all gunner point, listen, LeBron walking out of Boston Garden in Cleveland, that last game. We was wanting to see the resurgent story from one of the greats. We wanna see the comeback. We saw the L, got it. Everybody had a slice for a year.

Niggas got paid, they talk shit, they put smut on your name, that comes with being great. We wanted to see the comeback story, the comeback. Oh my God, I'm sad. The L ain't, see, now I'm gonna go inside a little bit with that because the L ain't over, nigga. The Super Bowl, the biggest stage in the country is coming up and y'all still about to play this shit.

This his summer. This his summer when we lost. Now I gotta go home, I gotta be in the gym from fucking, when the playoffs? He's gonna be in Australia. Look, the playoffs is May, the season start back in November, Kendrick then kick my ass this summer, he gonna kick my ass this winter, and I'm back in the gym.

And I think that nigga got some shit in the gym. Sure. I think, so. Yeah, but will he pay for it? What you mean pay? Pay for this whole situation. If he has something that he feels confident in and has faith in, will he dig in his own pocket, hire his own independent team to work and support this stuff? It's no longer, it's no longer just show up to work. So you niggas that like to just show up to work, I know, got it priceless. We come hey Did just show up to work days are over

Yeah, you talking I don't know I don't know how that stuff works like the music business and all shit is he allowed to do that with being signed a universal? Probably not probably can't do it. You get what I'm saying? Like is he allowed to do this? So you got to do some fucking backdoor shit and figure some shit out, but that they keep Backdoor shit. I did Come on my nigga. I drop over here on Instagram or whatever. Give this nigga a little credit my nigga.

If I'm trying to come back from and take my L back or try. I mean how does this end? This ends with. The humbling part, I'm sorry man. The humbling part is recognizing when. You up against a different opponent. Or when you need someone. Yeah.

Like guess what? I could go, not to keep using me, because again, above my pay grade, but I could go and do X, Y, Z on my own and we pull out the calculator and see how much it'll cost me, and I could do it. Or I could get with a partner who we kind of believe in each other's capabilities

and they can help to offset some of this load that's on my back. The problem in his case is, like I said, if he tried to do some other shit, get with a partner, some backdoor shit, the times have changed now. Everything is online. So with the push of a button, Universal could strike whatever you do. That's hard. But there's also the real world. It's changed now. But you could do different shit. You could. You were in the fucking change. You can't, it's changed now. You can do different shit, you could. You were the fucking change.

You can't go in. But we've had, but, but, but, hindsight, I'm talking about right now. Right now. How does he find universal? How does he, fuck, how do we, if I want to put off the muscle, how do I do it? He can give away free bootlegs on all his tours

that he's been constantly going on for the past three years. You can do a bunch of fucking sneaky fly shit that would actually look cool. Y'all got this one-on-one CD, it's on a fucking CD-R, or a flash drive or something. You could do some fucking sneaky fly shit that would actually look cool. Y'all got this one to one CD. It's on a fucking CDR or a flash drive or something. You could do some fucking back door shit. We're all just so addicted to this shit. You could, but that was by design. I know, but there is other ways.

There is the real box. But then you gotta be on tour with another slave master. You gotta be on tour with another slave master. But you could be doing your own shit to build your own shit up. Not even trying to be funny. Today, you give a nigga a CD. What are you gonna play it on? If it's a Drake CD?

Maybe not a CD, a flash drive. Whatever the fuck it is. A little card with a fucking QR link. I don't care what it is. Yeah, Pox. Dog, you could humble yourself if you are in a contractual situation that you tried to get out of and cannot.

The same way he humbled himself when they took that petition down and says the day before on the deadline he went he called UMG and Spotify to say I'm taking this down do you guys agree that's a humbling thing that is a change in position you could go to your business partner humble and find something to say that says, for the duration of this contract, I'm gonna, we can, we're gonna meet in the middle. I'm gonna give you what, whatever you need,

whatever they fighting about, he has to come up off of some of that just to end this. Because if he don't, they are gonna end him. I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying none of it is right, but recognize who you in the ring with. True. Now when they say, all right, cool, who you in the ring with true now when they say alright cool We're gonna play nice you sign this three album bill. Yeah, no no no no no what I'm saying is not for a new signature

I'm under the premise. Oh no. I'm saying before they play nice. We want to keep you here We don't want to let you know you're not letting you fulfill the contract album my nigga You gotta let you do more albums for us to even come to the motherfuckin'. Contracts mean things. So, okay, granted, if the label wants to say, hey, you don't wanna sign our new contract, we not keeping you hot or making you hot going into it. Or letting you get yourself hot.

Okay, cool, sir. Or letting you complete it. No, see, that's weird, that's weird. Bro, if I got a deadline, if you don't got a deadline. If you owe me two albums, if you owe me two albums left on the contract and I say, well, we not dropping. You could have 15 albums done.

We're not letting you drop the two albums to complete the contract. So I heard that's possible. Bro, I know an artist personally that this happened to. He had one album left on the deal with Def Jam. Album done. He had one album left on the deal with Def Jam. Album done. Had the next album ready to go. And they were like,

yo dogs, no we not dropping this unless you sign us with a two album. Okay, so I'm playing along with your premise. So somebody tell me that's fake. I want to go with him. No, that can happen, right? Like, E1 didn't want to give me no money when it was my last album.

They didn't want to pay for a single paper. Nobody, labels do that shit. So I got that. And if that's happening, then I would say that the fight is not, or not solely harassment and defamation. Because you're spending money on a fight. That's a fight. If, hey, I have been prepared to get out of this contract, I have these albums,

they are not counting them, that would be listed in part of my fight, is what I'm saying. You should fight that. I agree with you if that was the case. And you, you have all the, you fighting already. See, once you fighting already, let's fight. Yeah. Like, you, you soiled the relationship. I don't really see a, let me not say never. Let me not say never. I don't see a return, but there could be a small beacon of hope or some loophole or a slither of light that's coming from somewhere.

But this relationship currently as it stands is all the way, all the way down the toilet. Can I say something? So get all your fights out the way. If they're stopping you from completing your album, which we've heard rumors about, stopping them from completing this contract, then do something about that.

I agree, I think this, again, it's just a desperation thing about Super Bowl. What up? In closing for me, I feel, we know somebody that's personally that completed all their obligations but would not be let out of a deal that lasted for a long time. And I want to be

careful what I say. And because of street codes and principles they would not take, they would not or will not sue or take it to court. And that's where I'm conflicted at, right? I do want to live by the street but I know somebody personally in a deal that is complaining and calling and the nigga just won't let him out. No matter how many years pass, he just won't let... No, I'm not budging.

Even one of the partners say, Budge! No, I'm not budging. Like, these things happen, especially when you come privy to more information. So, artists, every day, we're in an era of learning different things, re-reading things and saying that, okay, I was at this point in my life when I signed this and I made you guys this amount of money.

And then now I feel like I want to be treated fairly or I want to be out this. And there are some people that stand strong. No, we're not. I'm not letting you out there. No, no. Somebody right now. I just have to respect the game. But it just clicked in my head that this is happening every day all day. See, my take on that, and it's my upbringing

a little different, is the streets and business ain't the same thing. But we had concluded, too. We had put the... But you said they came into it here. That artist that you're speaking about, are they still in the streets? No.

But you're trying to adhere to street rules. Well, meaning- When y'all talking business now. When I say street rules, meaning that, I wanna get out of this, but I'm not gonna sue you guys because I'll make me look. That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about- For me, just to make my point clear,

I'm not mad at Drake or any artist in the world beefing with a label, fighting with a label, or suing a label. For Drake, I'm mad at what he is fighting with this label about. I'm mad at how he's going about it, and I'm mad at what it stems from. Got it, I'm what you do. That's it.

All right. That's it. Same. If he's fine with all of the criticism that is gonna come from the move, then who the fuck is anybody else to say, hey dog, you a bitch, you a carny, what will you do? Especially if he gets his desired outcome.

Yeah, whatever that is, and I ain't pretending to know. I ain't pretending to know. He could want to get away from them, he could want to get more money from them. He could want to, I don't know. He could just want to block this shit from the Super Bowl. Or he could just want that. It could just be that. It could just be that.

It could just be that and the only way to do that is legally, I don't know, we'll see. I was hoping that Drake Kendrick stuff wouldn't permeate my 2025. So I didn't wanna talk about this. I didn't. The fans would have had my ass if I had came in here and said, nope, I don't give a fuck. I thought about it.

And I ain't one of them kicking my back in. I'm sad. I think our conversation was good. It was great. I loved our conversation. I'm just, I'm having real life affair. I'm sad. I'm sad for real.

I feel like when I cry for Daylight Soul. I don't know why anybody don't love this shit for real. I feel like when I cry for Daylight Soul. Anybody don't love this shit to say, I love this shit. I can't believe that we are here right now. Hey guy, I'll be 45 anyway. I guess that's the age where you're trying to get away from this shit. When you bring money into that shit, dog, all of the passion and shit like that

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and have been with them for 20 years. After so many years after coming up together with them and if they call you about like 25 or 30 years later after reviewing their contract and saying yo. After 30 years. You reviewed your contract after 30 years later, after reviewing their contract and saying, yo. After 30 years, you reviewed your contract after 30 years. I'm just saying like, well, just trying to find loopholes and asking to get out of it,

I feel like you should accommodate them. Especially- Based on what? Time, loyalty, friendship. You listen to all things that don't work in business. Yeah, but when I sign off first, that's what you're presenting to me. You're presenting those options.

Loyalty, friendship, time. I'm presenting a business contract. It's not true. Well, they put bait on the hook when you go fishing. The evidence fucked up, right? Then you- We gotta get the fish out of the water. Smoking mirrors a lot, Joe.

There's a lot of smoking mirrors. That's the music business. And niggas use love, and this is why the new age content creators or new age artists is winning, because there's no more morals and principles than even if you try to implement them, niggas negate them.

They forget about it. I forget about all that. If I was going through something, if I was signing to you for a long them, niggas negate them. They forget about it. I forget about all that. If I was going through something, if I was signing you for a long time, I would want to call you years later if something could happen for me. If I can make another move, I wouldn't want to call you.

Yo, Joe, listen, it's been a long time, bro. So I'm going to let you go. Do me a favor. Can you let me go? So I'm going to let you go and watch you make another move? Let me ask you. Why wouldn't you?

You're making the move yourself. Why would I do that? Flip. I don't know. Flip. Yes. Why wouldn't you? You're making the move yourself. Why would I do that? Flip. I don't know. Flip. Yes. So I let you out of the contract.

Yes. So I can go feed my family. So you can go feed your family. Yes. And I'm taking money out of my family's mouth. Yes. Because you made all the money already. I went to Webb fucking six, seven years later when I didn't have a pop to pick up.

He told me you did that shit. Everything was out the window. I didn't see how anybody could even view me as profitable. And I'm like, yo dog, it's over, yo. Let me out. And he's like, why would I do that? I put this amount of money in you. I bought the studio equipment.

I was picking the records. I fought with the DJs. I ran around radio stations. I did all of this shit for years, and I ain't really making no money back. So why would I let you out? I was like, I guess you wouldn't. Yeah, but that doesn't make it right.

I mean, Webb told me on the phone, he said, I probably, you found another way, and you found a way to make it happen, Joe. I did the same thing that I just said, the blueprint was laid out before us. The people that I see make it happen, they did it outside of music. But what if, okay, so then,

what you're saying- If I would've stayed in music, I owe fucking who I owe. I owe some shit now, musically. I probably owe some Slaughterhouse albums. I probably owe Empire, an album. Did my publishing deal. Oh, it's finished now.

Salute, salute, but shit, 20 years in the pub deal. I got people that was fly that I met up there, shout out to Jessica Rivera, all the people that was working in that building. Hey, y'all have made all the money, at least give me some money or let's just end this so I could go really feed my family. No!

You know what bothers me a little bit? I get it. But it seems like somebody who was so headstrong, once you got in position, you end up conforming to the same rules that was implemented that we were against. I'm one of the only ones that don't conform. I say that all the time.

What I mean by conforming. Yes, you do need to. The example is me. I don't sign off my rights. I don't sign off my likeness. I don't just willingly relinquish things. I'm not talking about that Joe, that's what I'm probably saying the wrong thing.

What I mean, Conform, is that you're now speaking from the other side. The other side of the table. That's what I mean, I don't mean Conform. You're speaking from the other side of the table, which is like, why would I let you out? But when you were the artist, when you were going through that, you would hope that a web and nitty would say,

yo, all right, because I love you, because we gave you these promises, I'm going to let you out. You would hope that. You keep kind of making that point you did a little bit earlier. I continue to highlight the difference is if you are complicit in the system, then that's on you. Okay, yeah.

I, from year three or four, was trying to find a way out of this shit to never return. Because it wasn't acting in your favor. I was unhappy. I know. I was unhappy. I was unhappy. That's not what I wanted to do.

I wanted to bet on me at all times. I understand. If I had an album, I wanted to be able to just drop my album. I didn't want nobody telling me, hey, you can't do this, you can't do that. We control your shit. I didn't want that. Some people want that. What I've learned, and I've said this before in this podcast, is most of the people that I'm preaching to,

the good fight of independence and a union and unity and the power of numbers, they want to be in the situations that they in. They don't want that shit. It's a safety, it's a comfortability. It's more risk involved. Bro, it's a safety and comfortability and getting a check every week. It is. Facts. Niggas can say whatever the fuck they want.

They don't want to get up out the comfy living room and go make it happen. So I'm not going to try to convince you. And I know that when I do try to convince you, if you hide enough, somebody is on the other side offering you something that is undeniable for you to feed your family. We come from poverty.

So I could be telling you, hey, from experience, hey, do it yourself, do it yourself, do it yourself, get out the mud. If somebody else come and say, yo, here go a million dollars right now, here go two million, here go five, $10 million, yo, I'm not gonna be mad at nobody for making the best decision for them.

But I also understand how the game is played now that I was a part of it, fell victim to it, fought my way out of it, and now watch from afar. What if you're in a production deal, right? And then every deal you try to go get, what if you're in a production deal and then, I guess I'm saying it right, and if you try to go get a new deal, the people that have you in a deal from a long time ago is still eating off of you and eating a big chunk. No, no.

I invested in you, you wouldn't be able to get that production deal. You invested in me years ago and you made that money back, and you made more than that. That's not what a production deal is. Am I saying the wrong thing? No, no, no, no, I'm saying if you're in a production deal, then that's what you are agreeing to.

You're naming, a production deal is you're gonna, we are gonna build you and carry along with whatever deal you go get popping because we're the production deal, we're not a label. If you signed to a label, you can't go sign to another label. We're the production company, we're gonna develop you, build you up, make you a star for the label and for the brands to come fuck with me.

What if you no longer have a hand in making me a star? What if you no longer have a hand in it? There's no such thing as that when I made you the star. When I made you the star. Joe, you understand what I'm saying, but you- I'm responding to you. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I made you the star. I'm agreeing with you.

But I get the other side. I get it too, but- Yo, there's- listen to this, right? Let's just say, hypothetically. Yeah. If Jay-Z signed Rihanna to a 360, you can't become Rihanna that owns Fenty, which is a billion dollar brand, if I never had Umbrella.

I'm with you. You understand what I'm saying? So indirectly, that person is still responsible for some of all of your ongoing successes, because if I never put you in front of the spotlight before, then you never become this. I don't, I get it. I'm not saying I don't. But then everybody suffers, right? So I'm no longer going to make music or get the deals, so you can, like, everybody suffers.

Except the person that put their money out their pocket the first time to make you a star. I'm gonna keep recouping some money because if it was not for my money, you wouldn't have what you got today. And I don't think everybody suffers. I think you're the only one that suffers. Yeah, you might be the person that suffers.

You're gonna be the only one that's gonna suffer. A manager can manage his whole life. An artist can't artist his whole life. A production company can go find anybody and do the same thing again, unless you're outlier like a whole board, you know, the one of ones. Drake is a one of one.

But other than that, the game is the game. Do you feel like when the artist decides that they no longer wanna be attached to the production company, right? Do you feel like that's a mistake or you should just always just go along? Circumstantial. Circumstantial, got it.

I think it's circumstantial. I think that there's some marriages that seem to work, right? Like there's a lot of production companies that act as a TBE for whatever the artist is and it's silent and they do it, they work. And you kind of want that. You recognize the benefit of the relationship.

There's some where there's a lot of production companies that don't do shit. But we have the contract. Do you think it's predatory, Joe? Like do you think business is predatory? I don't think those contracts are predatory because again, you didn't get to that next step without this company taking you in there.

I think you should be trapped door in it. I don't think that because you're being trap door in it. I don't think that because you helped me when I was 20. Exactly, you should've owned me when I'm 40. Thank you. I don't think that. That's what I'm saying. I think it's nuance and I get it.

If I put my money out my pocket, I put you on a diet, I put you with the nutritionist, I paid them, I put you with the stylist, I got your XYZ done, you were not that when you walked in my office. You had a voice, when you walked in my office, I made you a brand. I'm supposed to reap the benefits of my hard work. I still don't think though, that I should be owning ya,

ugh, for the next 20 or 30 years. But what if it's a fair deal? Hold on, let me ask you a question. Well if it's fair, then it's fair, cause I don't think other people. But what makes it a fair deal? Like a low percentage or something like that? What if they just get a small cut of everything

after they're out of the equation? I'm getting a piece every night. I was going to ask y'all, do you think that Jazz Prince should be getting money off of Drake today? He was the one who discovered Drake. He was the one who called Wayne and said, yo, I got this nigga right here.

This nigga's ill. I'm going to bring him in. You need to holler at him, you need to hear this nigga. Yes. And that was what, oh five or something? I don't have to jazz, man. I do think so, and I think that's the-

You say no. Wait, wait, let him answer. You say no. Really? No, I think the time's passed already. I think I made you enough money, man. I can get him to go do it on my own. Do you think that every deal

should have an expiration date? I do. Yeah. I do. I was about to say this thing too. I can get them to go do it my own. Do you think that every deal should have an expiration date? I do. Yeah. I do. I was about to say this thing too. I do because unless it's understood from the beginning, a lot of times when we're making this deal, niggas make these deals and say you need-

I don't know if anybody actually makes the deal and says the whole perpetuity thing up front. That's usually the finest of fine. No, I understand, but I just feel- That's for the lawyers of lawyers. You go get with your lawyers. I agree that this business is predatory. And what I mean by this is we target, they target,

now they target the younger acts and there's ageism in this shit. So yes, but you have to go pay your attorney. You have to go pay your business accountant, your business manager, your road manager, your production company. Sometimes niggas try to your road manager, your production company. And sometimes niggas try to keep the money from the production company.

And Lord knows I did sometimes. You gotta pay the people. What you'll learn is art, and most artists don't wanna pay nobody. Most artists think they should get 100% of the pie. All of this is because of me and that's it. But if you are just trying to make it, let's say you got away from the production company.

Yes. In your next phase, you have to pay for services still. That money that the production company was taking for their service, if you don't pay for services, you ain't getting them. You're not just taking this money and putting it in your pocket. That's true.

It's like in my field, property manager. Yo, dog, when somebody's managing your property, you might be giving them a commission. It's months that they don't do shit. But then it's months when it might be three feet of snow outside and they get the snow going and you don't even have to get out your bed. It's times where the grass be up here

and the nigga cuts the grass and you don't get out of bed. It's a service that you paying for. You know what I'm saying? And so you get an optimum rent because they are doing a service for you. Y'all artists out there to who this applies to, all of the times that you pick up your phone to express either a grievance, an idea,

a thought, an action that needs to be executed. Those ain't just phone calls. When you pick up the phone to call your lawyer, I hate them fucking invoices. Them niggas charge you on 15 minute increments, 20 minute increments. A lawyer, when Lizzo or somebody, when somebody pick up the phone with a problem with their Uber Eats order and want to get in touch with the owner of Uber Eats, hey, I'm going to

send a tweet, but contact Uber Eats and let them know, contact Delta Airlines. Yo, let them know that the airport treated me unfairly. You calling in somebody with the pull to do this. And anytime an artist wants somebody to get something done, it is a service. Good point. Pay for it. True.

Got it. And that's how I feel. That's true. That's how I feel. I still think it should be a terminating point on a bunch of these contracts, yo. You gotta work your way out of it. Like I agree with both of y'all on the Jazz Prince point.

Yes, I think Jazz Prince should still be compensated. He should be compensated the whole ride. Or. You buy your way out. Yes. And it's been enough years to where, listen, Drake has successfully, for all we know, handled the Jazz Prince shit.

Young money. Young Money. Young Money. Mm-hmm. Cash Money. Oh, that one too. Whomever. His OVO shit with these people. And Universal's the final boss.

Universal is the chess master now. But he had successfully done these things. This one will be a bit more difficult. I wish him all the luck in the world. I'll save the audience from personal jabs at demand. Like all of that, you a bitch and you like, y'all know where I'm from, you know what I think. I spent all last year telling y'all what I think

about some of the behavior. This is sad to me. This is sad to me. I'm gonna playstanding or something. Yo, you stink. Prayers to all parties involved, right Ice? Yeah, that's it man. Thoughts and prayers.

Yeah, thoughts and prayers. Yeah man. You gotta read them contracts, Freeze. That's it. Woo. This could be Drake's Outstanding. I'm the song that always makes me feel good I'm the song that always makes me feel good I'm the song that always makes me feel good

I'm the song that always makes me feel good I'm the song that always makes me feel good So tell me, is it just me or your friends? Your worst nightmare, it's my first night here And this girl right here, who knows what she knows So I'm calling for a phone and she go in the bathroom With her purse right there, I don't trust these people I know the daddy But that's just a result of me paying attention To all these women that think like men with the same intentions

Talk to strippers and models and try to gain attention Even a couple pornstars that I machine-emission But we see a stunner, my only role models Half of Jordan, my only role models That's why I walk around with all this gold on And every time I run into these niggas, we're going nowhere I'm just about to see some chains and some braces and rings All of the little X's that we can't eat

I never hit a distance, they try and point out to me But it's whatever if somebody won't make it a thing I'm more concerned when niggas think about Christmas in August Do anything if I kiss for they daughters Get some shake a brick in the press He cheffing like Mrs. Fields they making a cookie stretch Yo you're lying if you say you ain't gonna miss this guy I don't give a fuck

I know y'all new fans out there is trying to act like all the latest slaps is the same slaps. You are lying to me if you're telling me you're not gonna miss this guy. Miss him already. Been missing him. Yeah. What are we talking about?

Same. That's what I thought on that last shit he put out when he was like, I got a body double. I was like, shit, that's what the fuck I been saying. Yeah. That is not me. Yes, nigga.

No, go get you. Oh, my lord, man. Go get you is crazy. What else we got that is important, unimportant? Is there anything else in music y'all want to talk about? Oh, the assaults? The OGs is OG-ing, boy. Which one you want to start storing the feeling?

For real. Play around with these niggas if you want. I with? Restoring the feeling. For real. Nah. Play around with these niggas if you want. I don't like that. I don't either. I'm just joking. I like Method Man's. I don't like Busta Rhymes.

No, his. Yeah, the situations. Yeah, I love him. I don't like what he did. What Method did, I get it. Yeah. Allegedly. Allegedly.

He just caught his daughter's ex. Allegedly. At Crunch Fitness. Yeah, Crunch Fitness and punched him in the face. And I think that even that's very Method Allegedly. At Crunch Fitness. Crunch Fitness and punched him in the face. And I think that even that's very method man, being at Crunch Fitness. Yeah, nigga. I met him in there earlier in the morning.

Is that who I think? I ain't in lifetime. Yeah. I'm from the bottom. I'm in crunch, nigga. $29.99. Was there a reason given as to why he punched him in the face? It's just his daughter's ex.

And he ever seen me. Sometimes there ain't no reason. You don't need to give a reason. We ain't talking about it. Okay. Sometimes... Don't I tell the media why Mary Fitzmull's you up? Sometimes... I read enough and just seeing that it's his daughter's ex from over a decade ago and she's 28.

That's it. That was enough for me. That's it. Sometimes the punishment tell you what the crime was. Mm-hmm. Method Man catching you in crunch fitness and punching you nine times upside your head. Seven times.

That's what they reported. You know you gave him two more. Yeah, yeah. Come on, come on. Nah, he five percenter. You don't give him seven. Oh! Oh!

You know what I mean? Nah, you take this seven. You ain't told him today's math. Nigga. Yeah, that was all I needed to say. I'm with him. Dad's being a dad. That's right. Girl dads, they mad. Yeah, that was all I needed to say. Yeah, I'm with him. Dad's being a dad. Yeah, yeah. Girl that's a man. So, yeah, so shout them at the man. I have no problem with

catching somebody in crunch fitness and putting the beats on him. Yeah, bust the rhymes. However, beating his fucking you can't beat his fucking 50 year old assistant is not quite the same to me. I didn't realize the assistant was 50. He was 50 years old. Yeah. Busta on the road.

I'm about to say, hold on now. Busta 50. Somebody say he was on the phone at work. What the shit? What the article read? I ain't mad that two 50 year olds getting shaken. Busta might be 50 something. But two 50 year olds didn't get it shaken.

One 50 year old assaulted somebody and they ran down the street. Why they wanna shake back? Then that's not two people getting it shaken. I agree with you. I'm just saying, there could be- Hey, yo, you gotta keep your eye on the 50-plus-year-olds that get it shaken.

Like, there's 50-year-olds that be like, yo, I'm 50. I'm 50 now. Nah, a lot of these 50 year old niggas that came from the time. Hit you with the dead arm. That came from the time when you had to put your hands up. They come from that. Which means, for me, if you violate them,

you will learn. You will know. I'm talking about the 50 plus year, exactly. You will know. I'm talking about the 50 plus year, exactly. You will know. I'm talking about the 50 plus year olds that are initiating violence out there. And I'm not saying that that's Busta Rhymes. The assistant would say it's Busta Rhymes.

But. You might have caught that assistant doing some bullshit. The assistant didn't make a PTA, another case of a bad PTA, or scenario, or what's it gonna be. Put your hands where my eyes can see. Yeah, now he did. He put them.

He did. So hopefully the assistant is well. That's funny. Hopefully all parties are well, except for the ex-boyfriend though. Yeah, I'm not with that. I'm not with that. That's my take.

Yeah, that's it. Yeah, salute. That's my take. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, salute. That's my take on that. Salute. I wonder if Swift Star was there kicking in there. I don't think Swift Star was there kicking. Yo, y'all here, the Supreme Court upheld it. The TikTok band is officially going into effect Sunday.

Unless it's sold. I've heard a very, uh. Yeah, I've heard that. Varying story. They're not doing nothing and Trump is going to try to save it. I don't know what the fuck's going on. I know my wife found some other, there's some new shit that they found. Some new app?

There's a new app, no, there's a new app that's like. Oh, yeah. Some other shit. The Chinese. Red note. The Chinese people are mad. Who on Red? a new app that's like oh yeah, some other shit and the Chinese read no red note. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, people are mad. Who are they crying because people can't Chinese Chinese they came over there

and they started trolling. What happened? No, it's not that they started trolling. My barber was told the Chinese people are mad and they're making videos crying because white people have invaded red note. That's what's going on. But some of them are being like welcoming, like, come on Americans, like, we cool over here. They're writing in Chinese and they're showing pictures of them crying on Twitter. Tight. Like, leave us alone.

You came over here with your same shit. The red note is not- Chris is for Columbus behavior. You came over here- You came over here and colonized this shit. They are tight, boy. Discover Beijing. Get your fucking ass over here.

You can't make this one come over here. They're colonizers and shit. They are tight, boy. Discover Beijing. Get your fucking ass over here. You can't skip. Yo, hoi. Put your Nina and your Pinto get the fuck out my country. You know? Yo, Joe, you know they upset Joe. What your papa told you, Joe?

He was really excited about that red note. He said he likes it a lot. He said a lot of the people that really enjoy TikTok were sad to see it go, found an alternative and they enjoyed just the same. Yeah, Rem said all her little people that do the book clubs and all that shit on TikTok is a big deal, apparently. They're all over there, so she's like, I'm good.

On Red Note. Yeah, they moved it right over. So what's the deal? I thought it was, so the Red Note is owned by Chinese people as well. I believe so, yeah. Yeah, it's not English. No, I'm just saying but

wasn't the argument this was a Chinese-owned brand that posed a security risk. Yeah. So we just transitioned to a different Chinese-owned brand. Yeah. I just finished saying that people will relinquish their rights and want to be there. People volunteer to do these things. Yeah. I just said that. And maybe they don't take as much data or something. I don't know. Maybe, but probably not. Why the Chinese are mad though? That's the funniest shit, man.

They are tight-ish. Get out. You heathens, not saying that, but that's what they saying. Come on, X, get out. My barber thought that he found a friend in me. He's like, yo man, you use TikTok? No.

No. No, never had it never downloaded it I watched the tiktok joints when they make it to other platforms and and I got my girl login just in case yeah yeah which doesn't make for the best time during breakups either. I bet not. Stupid as me, we had broke up. But it was a light breakup. We knew we'd be back together in like five days. But she wanted attention.

So every time we break up, she gotta go put on some video and go out and she go have some tits somewhere. And she gonna film it right in the bedroom in front of a little stupid mirror. And she gonna post it somewhere so I could see it. But she posted a TikTok link on Twitter. And I was in bed, miserable and sad. I clicked the TikTok link.

Can't get in, buddy. Clicked the TikTok link, can't get in. They asked me a series of questions. I answer them, I get in. Three minutes later, she send me a text with the code that it sent her phone. She said, yo dog, here go the code in case she's looking for sides.

And indeed I have it, I have it, thanks, I'm in it. I'm in it, thanks, I appreciate you. Here go the code you looking for, big dog. That's funny. That's hilarious. No, y'all skipped the major part. What was that? They asked me a series of questions. No, the prompts. The prompts, yeah.

You gotta fucking match the car. Just whatever's there and then they let you in, but they send the email. Oh, I thought it was, who was your dog in third grade? No. No, no, no. Oh, that was me. I thought it was you. That would make him a fucking creep.

Oh, you thought it was them? That was the Capaccia, the Cap- the Cap- the Cap- the Cap- the shit. Wait, that's what you thought about me? Wow. I thought it was you. I thought it was you. I thought it was you. I thought it was you.

I thought it was you. I thought it was you. I thought it was you. I me. I know what I thought it was too. That would make you a fucking creep. Oh, you thought it. I don't, damn. That was the cappaccia, the cap, the cap, the cap, the cap, the shit. Wait, that's what you're talking about me? Wow. You talking to me, bro. You might know where she went to elementary school and what her favorite food is.

Elementary what? That's just girl. Elementary school. Elementary school. Elementary. All right, just to clear the record, I don't know nothing about my girl as it doesn't pertain to me.

I don't know where she went to school. You don't her. You don't know each other's favorite color joke? No, stop, I'm joking right now. Oh, man, I was about to say, you're still talking to me. Yeah, her favorite song is Barry White. She's thinking of all those security question answers, nigga. You ain't fooling nobody. You didn't hear the story.

The nigga got past the second password on the phone. I didn't know they had a possibility of a second. Who said that? Oh, back in the day. Oh, oh. He is unwavering. This nigga takes persistence to another level, bro. I used to be off.

I used to be off. And back before they had advanced the tracking systems and you had to just drive to her job, hide in the car and wait till she get off. Duck, you gotta duck. And then she starts speeding, you start speeding. Stupid ass bitch, I got caught at the light, no license. She's zooming up seven times. Eeeh.

What the fuck you guys. She's getting away. Oh man. I did all that sick old shit. Listen, Joe did that. So hopefully you all have to go through that. Sure. Got something wrong with you, Z.

And we grow, we listen and we don't judge. And we grow, we change. You still crazy. You still bow down. No I'm not. Joe stop it. No I'm not. You just met somebody crazier than you and I love it.

I love to watch you stuck. Shada is your match, bro. You met your match. Yeah, for 44 year old Joe, yeah. She couldn't fuck with 30 year old Joe? That's not true, she could. Pop it up on you, nigga, the way she be popping up. I think she woulda had her hands full

with 33 year old, 34 year old Joe, but I'm in settle down mode, I'm in. That's what they say now, right, Frank Ice? He much calmer now. I'ma give him that. I know he much calmer. You're gonna give her a headache. Yeah, I ain't even trying.

She had more frequent fly mouths than anybody in the world. You're the one that gave her a headache. Carmen Sandiego type shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Flying around trying to touch your ass. We was in Starless. I said, hey, yo, look at y'all there, Joe. To the bottom.

Thank you for that. I said, I was just, it's funny to me. I love it. My man, it's just funny. That's funny. I let her do it for 20 minutes. She ain't put that phone up yet. Yo, that's crazy.

No, no, I swear, I'm looking at this TikTok band stuff. I swear to God, I'm looking at this TikTok band. Show these niggas that you read. There you go. But you got the up shit, man, where you press up and go to the different sections. Shut up, okay? Just swipe the app real quick.

You can swipe up. Do the swipe up real quick, man. You want to tell us about your findings? I mean, it's a whole lot of nothing. You didn't put your reading glasses on? Like, tell us. What's happening? I'm trying to. Since you're reading for 20 minutes,

like, what'd you come up with? That was why it took me 20 minutes, because I don't have my fucking readers on. But what happened? What did they say? They're just basically saying that the log takes effect. I'm fucked off. Yeah.

She did the man. But why did you lie? Man, give me the phone. I'm not lying. Man, you are a legend, son. I'm not lying. You're lying about lying. I was reading TikTok ban shit.

I'm not going home. Yeah, she's a legend, son. Yeah. Read what's on my phone. No. Right now. Because you know it's not going to support what you're saying right now. So were you reading and thinking about something else?

Because you just said the shit on the surface. She'll be in box. No, but the thing is, let her read it. January 19th. Anyways, what else, what else, what else, what else, what else is going on? Did y'all see, well hear, Wendy on the Breakfast Club? Yes. I didn't hear her yet.

I actually set an alarm, because I wanted to hear the whole, I don't have a listener radio, but I wanted to hear the whole thing. And? How was it, Ice? She did sound... She sounded good.

I mean, she sounded distressed in all that shit, but she sounded good. She sounded coherent, I guess. Coherent. Coherent. Coherent, yeah. After listening, I'm not an expert or anything. I don't think she needs that guardianship shit that they have her in.

This looks really bad for the judge and for the guardian. That shit sounds crazy. She's up there like, dude, they control. If you don't call me, I can't even call out. They got rid of her cats. Yeah, she was like, someone has to unlock my door for me to walk out. Like she described this shit, like she's literally in jail.

Some fancy jails is what she described to us. And then she's saying the people that she's on the floor with are really having, you know, like mental problems. She's like, I shouldn't even be here with these people. That was fucked up. Yeah, she said, she made it sound like she was like in a convalescent home where everybody was around 80 and 90 and that sort of thing.

But she also indicated by what she didn't say that there was a lot she could not say for legal reasons, so she had her niece on the phone with her. And obviously she's had a lot of conversations with Charlemagne, so she relied on her niece and for Charlemagne to say the things that she couldn't say. Got it. Yeah, so, but the thing, the thing that most people took away from it is that she did sound very coherent, and so it just kind of made you wonder about all the reports that were coming out about the dementia and whatnot. What we saw. I think when people see stuff, it hits harder. The A&E documentary? And when they had that documentary on, she did not look well.

She didn't. In all fairness, I'm not trying to be just having a conversation. Yeah, they talked about that, too, during the interview. Yeah, I think that, um. Like, when you go to court sometimes, you don't ever sit with the judge, dolo. Right. You get what I'm saying? Like, you don't sit with the judge. So whoever hides the best attorney,

that's the depiction that they're gonna give you. In your case, I'm telling you, even with your case, if that film was not available to be seen, my nigga now is at the who could present the argument the best. You get what I'm saying? And so if she never had an opportunity to sit with the judge, they got this big-ass A&E doc

that's showing her not seemingly in the best light and in the best state of mind, then the judge is gonna be like, all right, cool, I'ma rock with you. I don't know the process, so y'all correct me if I'm wrong, but there should be some level of experts on each side

to at least evaluate you, and there should be a re-evaluation period or something when it comes to this. Because the person I heard on the radio, like I said, I don't think that person, you watch the doc? I saw the doc. I saw the doc as well.

So you talked about the doc up here, remember? Yeah, we did. Now one thing I will say, she did get a little confused at times in the interview. On the interview. Yeah, like she quieted everybody so she could talk and then got a little jammed up or confused and was just like telling her niece,

you talk, you talk, you talk. But she still seemed in right mind though. The way they made it seem like is she don't know what day it is and what's going on. And the reason why I think she said for her niece to talk is because again, the legal issues that she can't speak on. You know, so, but it just really- And she has a family that loves her, so why am I in this?

Like I have family members that are coherent, they're able and willing. This is all the information. They can take care of me up until my final days. What's going on here? Yeah, surely there must be some at home care that you could get that would allow her to live a relatively normal life.

She was up there saying how she was trying to get down to Florida or to Miami where her family is. For her dad's 94th birthday, and they're making it seem like, we'll let you know if we're gonna let you go. She's like, yo, my family is not up here. Yeah, y'all know me from New York, radio, all of that, but she's like, years ago, her mom and her mother and father

were the first ones that moved to Miami, and then the rest of the family went. Like, we're not, my family's not up here. Her son was in Florida for a while, on the dock. Her son was in college in Florida. You're gonna learn about these different businesses when you need to. Same way we keep saying the music business is a business,

this conservative shit is also a business. It's a system and it's broken. That's a business. Exactly, this is one that Kanye has spoken about, Britney has spoken about. Some people have tried to bring awareness to it. Wendy is next in line. If you think that them people are not paying themselves

handsomely for whatever it is or is not going on. Consultation fee, all that. And they already receive a really, really hefty commission or payment for their role as guardians. I believe you. Which is the Grammy shit of now, why would they now come forward and say, nah, she good?

They not. Yeah. There's no incentive for them to do that. Bro, Wendy says she got $15 to her name. She's like, I got $15. I believe you. Well, not to her name, but in terms of access. Excuse me, I'm sorry.

She has no access to her money whatsoever. That she has access to. So she got $15. That's her name. That's crazy. That's how I took it. The conservatorship is in somebody else's name, and they got to give me the OK to get my own spanky?

What? I mean, how does that happen, though? That's crazy. It's based off what you sign when you get in bed with these people? Yes. They said the bank set that up. Like it was the bank that started all of this shit.

If I make a lot of money and I'm getting old, they can make a decision to like that. Don't you sign over stuff to your family and put names like you can power for this and stuff like that. Yeah. But if you don't have that in place. So let's say you don't have these things in place, right? And a bank starts to see an excessive amount of money

moving out of your account. That's not normal. They may raise a red flag. They say her son was wilding. But she said her son was wilding, her son was taking money, et cetera, et cetera. And we just objectively speaking, but you might've been saying, no, that wasn't me. I want to charge. You know what I mean? And then they like, yo dog.

But she was like, yes, I know he had these things. I know this was happening. That's my son and let him, yeah. A judge in appropriate court decides whether to establish a conservatorship, reviewing evidence to determine if someone is incapacitated and needs a conservator to manage their personal affairs or finances. They also choose the suitable individual to serve as the conservator if necessary. That's the way it went to be. Listen, none of us here are experts on conservatorship, so I don't want to put ourselves in a position

to speak on it. And we don't know how it happened, how it started. We don't know anything. We wish Wendy Williams well. For sure. From what we heard and saw, it sounds like a really fucked up predicament. And hopefully them doing that interview

and bringing some awareness to it can make a change. It was good to hear from her, like her own words. And it was good. Shout out to Wendy. Shout out to her. Yeah, no, legend. And she still managed to get her puff shots in. She did.

That's what I said, oh yeah, she, yeah, yeah, she back. She good, she good. There she go. There, that's the Wendy. Yeah. What else we got? I got a question for y'all. So this flip, I wanna keep talking about loyalty.

Using people that are not family members. Okay. Describe to me what your perfect version of loyalty looks like. For example, off the top of my head, I would say, Alonzo Morning slash Eudonnis Haslam to Pat Riley. Okay. An example is what you're asking for, roughly. Using people, yes.

Your version of loyalty or loyalty that you would like to have looks like what through people? Pusha T to Pharrell. Tata to Jay. Kendrick to TD. Bleak DJ. Bleak to Jay. Bigs to Jay.

That's what I like about the Kendrick to TD thing is he seems like he's doing his own thing yet is still loyal. I like that. I like that one. And vice versa. And vice versa. Yeah.

And vice versa. I like that. It's some better ones. Kelly to Beyonce. Hmm. You got any? No, and I'm not gonna question y'all. So fuck it.

Jordan to Phil Jackson though. I'm gonna go with the same. I'm gonna go with the same. I'm gonna go with the same. I'm gonna go with the same. I'm gonna go with the same. I'm gonna go with the same. I'm gonna go with the same. I'm gonna go question y'all. So fuck it. Jordan to Phil Jackson though, right? That's not, no.

But again, because some of these are in question, we really don't know. Yeah, we don't know that. Some of us might be more privy to behind the scenes shit that they might have went through. Adversity. You know what I'm saying? That they might have been through. I don't know. It's just a question. Yeah. Itversity, you know what I'm saying? They might have been through, I don't know. Just a question.

Yeah, just a question. What else we got? Big Meats concert. I don't know anything about this. There's a welcome home Big Meats concert taking place. In Florida. In Florida, Sunrise, Florida. It's on February the 13th and it is basically like a who's who of current hip hop.

Everybody from Lil Baby, Ross, Sexy Red, Money Bag Yo, Bossman D-Lo. It's just a who's who of the current hip hop scene. The Welcome Home Show. Notably missing, which everybody pointed out. Jeezy. There's no Jeezy on the show. There's no Fab on the show. I hate when they're adding that dude out.

But it's dead if you point it out. Yeah. That's all. We don't know what these guys got going on. But what does that mean? It might be Booker's house. It don't mean anything. Or it could mean something. Or they might show up.

You have no idea. The full lineups. Yeah, unannounced guests. Lil Baby, Rick Ross, 21 Savage, Sexy Red, Kodak Black, 4 2 Doug, ESTG, Money Bag Yo, Boss Man D-Lo, T Grizzly, Babyface Ray, Iceware Vezos, Skillababy PZ, Payroll Giavone, Boosie, Young Scooter, and it says more artists to be added. That's a big show.

Well, there's your hat right it says more artists to be added. That's a big show. Well, there's your out right there, more artists to be added. You know putting this out, you know what putting this out is gonna say without certain names on there. Yeah. Even if they are added later on, seeing it right off the bat

without certain names attached to it is, hey, that looks odd. And people are gonna point that out. It's a promoted event. Yeah Hmm. That's why though. Yes. Oh, that's a hell of a come home Yeah, listen good fam. Yeah, or good fam. Oh everybody attends has a blast. No violence I'm not about to make nothing yet that for real no violence. I'm not about to make nothing of names that are missing

Or not yet added Potentially. Yeah. Yeah, what's wrong with it? Just not about to make nothing of names that are missing or not yet added Potentially. Yeah. Yeah, what's wrong with a nigga just not wanting to go? Ain't nothing wrong with it. It's again my nigga. I might have took care of you your whole time Like we can all should be internet internet and yeah exactly It'd be the internet internet and like you don't know what I did for you the whole time you was locked up, right? You my man for real. I don't got to go did for you the whole time you was locked up. Right. You my man for real. I don't got to go to no show to show you you my man. You know what I mean?

Maybe I'm going and I'm just not performing. Or I might not be going. I see you last week. I'm not doing that. I don't want to be around them crowds. I'm just not doing that. Yeah. Because all them people on that list is newer acts.

You know what I'm saying? So I'm not signing up to no festival. Yeah, I ain't got no. That's what I'm not signing up to no festival. Yeah, I ain't got no. That's what it is, low key, a festival. Yeah. Big ass lineup. You know what I'm saying? So we got a relationship in real life, nigga. I don't have to come near to show that.

I don't have the internet. Yeah, that I'm in support of you. Yeah, none at all. My opinion. Agreed. There's 10 and five of your ass up for misspelling demonic. Yeah.

I swear that was on purpose. Swear it's on purpose. Why? Demonic. Did you see how we spelled it? D, what is it? Demonic. Yeah, D-M-I-Q-U-E.

N-I-Q-U-E. Yeah, that sounds a little intentional. Like, there's more ways you could fuck up demonic without going that far. That was AI. He fucked up some words, he clear. He got his career fucking up some words. Like, he fucked up Miami.

He was talking on the phone and said, D-M-I-E-N-Y. No. No. I'ma bell him out. I think he's leaning in. He's leaning into the bullshit. I ain't gonna laugh too hard,

because I'm at the age where, you know, I'm forgetting everything that I've ever learned, and certain words be kicking my, and nigga, I was stuck for 40 minutes with aesthetic the other day. I was stuck sitting there, sounding it out. I got a hoodie coming out. I'm gonna look up hors d'oeuvres.

That's a motherfucker. That's a monster. H-I-E-S. Yeah. I got a hoodie coming out. I couldn't figure, it's my shit. My nigga, I. Or Durr's. Yeah. Yeah. I got a hoodie coming out. I couldn't figure, it's my shit. My nigga, I couldn't spell the word to save my life.

What was the word? Ish. Fuck yeah, that's it. Like yo, this shit was crazy. What was the word? The phone was coming out. You can't tell shit. I was fucking high by brain.

Yeah, this shit, yeah. They was on Lil' Kim ass too. Phones make us dumb, yo. Oh yeah, they were. That was funny though. That was hilarious, bro. What Kim do? Lil' Kim ass too. Phones make us dumb, yo. Oh yeah, they were. That was funny though. That was hilarious, bro. What Kim do? Lil' Kim put a post up saying,

been sending strong players up for LA and everyone affected by the fires. Please send a monsoon. This is heartbreaking. I pray to Jesus that God make it monsoon in LA. God bless her heart, because she really just meant like, you know, send some rain.

I know it, but yeah. Yeah. A monsoon would kind of fuck shit up. It would make it worse. Mudslide, fuck. Well, mudslides. White LA off the map. It's also a natural disaster. So yeah.

We'd be playing for LA again. Right. Shout to Kim, man. That was good intention. Yeah, your heart was in the right place. Yeah. Prayers are still with everybody out there. For sure, for sure.

Let's not forget to say that. That is true. Yo, I was in the news recently. You called them? No, nothing. No, no, no. I didn't call anybody. I called my patients.

And I showed them the seats, nigga. You burned it. You called the news. You started that shit, son. I don't like that. I didn't start that shit. I didn't like that, but I let you slide. Why are you saying I started that?

I let you slide. You started that shit. I did not start that. And the parts came behind it. I don't like that. That disrespectful using your mouth to put me down. But I got something for you. I got something for you. At the right time, I'm gonna get both of you.

They don't put it in your mouth. No, you use your mouth to put it down. Zha Zha got mad at me and said, she made a video, said, if I don't fuck with you, you're not loyal to Stag. I never saw you around. She said at the interview that I did with her years ago,

I only invited her up there to discredit her information on Stag Bundles and Jim. And then I wrote a tweet, not a tweet, but I wrote it on her post and I was apologetic. I'm like, you know, cause she said, cause of me, cause of you Flip, I don't wanna ever do interviews again cause the niggas like you.'"

And I apologize, and I stand in my apology because her story is important to that movement. You know what I mean? What happened. And I don't want to discredit her. Just my angle at that time was playing the devil's advocate. That's just all my interviews. It wasn't intentional to her. Had plenty of arguments with Charleston White, with all the drug dealers,

Al Poe, Kinga, like all, this is just my style of interview. And so I didn't want, I don't want anyone to feel like, I don't like to hear that, yo, because of you, that interview, I don't want to talk to nobody. Niggas reached out and showing the receipts, yo, niggas reached out, but I don't want to talk to nobody because you, how you made me feel. I kind of felt bad because I don't know if I'm in a new

place, but I didn't mean to do that. Shout out to her, you know what I'm saying, prayers and thoughts, and I hope that she be able to tell a story without sitting across a nigga like me that will do that. And I was your man. And Stac, yeah, rest in peace. Rest in peace, Stac, for sure.

And as big as you, Stac, I love you, my boy. Because the stories be different, right? And that's what I learned up here, though. Like I learned up here that everybody have their own version of the story. If I hear something, if I witness something with Jim and Stack and I know a story, cause the story is that Jim left Stack in the hood,

not knowing that Stack called Jim for some money and the bank was closed. Right? Like, yo, we'll get them out. I was there, me and Biner was there, but people don't want to acknowledge that. It's easier to paint that about Jim. Yo, you left Stack out there. No, Stack wanted to stay out there

cause Stack has his own movement, just like a Queen's Flip. Some niggas is just in their own bag, and if I need something, I can call my man. He call his man. Yo, the bank is closed right now. Jeez, I'ma get it to you. It just so happened my man got killed the next day. You know what I'm saying? So people take these stories and they mix it up.

So when Yaja was telling the story, I wasn't discrediting her. I'm just like, yo, this is what I've been through. And by being up here, I learned that, yo, her truth is her truth. And at that time, it wasn't intentional. I was just being'm just like, yo, this is what I've been through. And by being up here, I learned that, yo, her truth is her truth. And at that time, it wasn't intentional, I was just being a devil's advocate. And that's it, so shout out to her,

I just wanted to say that. All right. Yeah, I support it. I'm still laughing a little bit though. It's adult of you, yeah. What? This nigga says, you know, yeah, I made the news recently.

It's like, oh shit, what happened? Yeah, Zha Zha tweeted, that's so bad. No. No. Well, I'm mad at you. What news outlet did that mean? That's not quite. Yo, if you happen to hear that story in the New York Post

or the Daily News on page six, please take Queen Flip's organic word up here instead of that story. Hey, let me ask you a question. You let your mans get away with all that Q&A. You let these two niggas get away with all that TMZ, call TMZ. You let these niggas get away with all that call TMZ. Flip, I was on your side.

And on top of that, because you thought I shouldn't have, these two niggas. I was on your side. And you thought I shouldn't have did it, right? You ain't come out of the field like that. Flip wouldn't do that. You know that, Joe. I call TMZ on myself.

You know me, man. I don't like that shit. I was on your side. I said I disagreed with the streets. You wrote a tweet, nigga. Everybody bigging me up, you and your white counterpart put a tweet out to discredit me. I said the street said this, and I said that they were lying.

That's nasty. Would it affect our friendship if I maybe did think that you would call TNV on yourself? Joe. I'm saying I don't love you no less. Joe, what? I'm not saying I think that, but would our relationship change? So in your mind, you're saying,

why would they go to Queens flipping out of Melissa Ford? No, I never said that. Meaning like somebody, not this is you, man. Like you're more, you know. I ain't put on the- Give me your comment, girl. God damn. Okay, sorry, thank you. Holy shit, man. Sorry, okay.

Don't touch me. All right. Nah, I'm sorry, you touch me. Yo, why you did that, though? Why you put that news out? You did that? You behind that? I'm not behind it. I promise you. Yeah, I you did that, though? Why you put that news out? You did that? You behind that? I'm not behind it.

I promise you. Yeah, I don't get, yo. I'm not behind it. Okay. I had your back. I'm just, for the record. I always got your back. No, that's just nasty.

I sold you, yo, you sure? Did you show you didn't call? Like, I read your tweet, like, wait, what? My bad, if you saw that. Is there anything else that is pressing on our minds, bodies, and souls, our spirits? Is there anything that's super important to get out there? I started LAM, man.

That shit is absolutely fire. I don't have a take, because I'm still early in the episode. I'm doing Tulsa King. I like it. Tulsa King is fire. What is it, season one or two? I'm on two now. I'm almost on two.

That shit is pretty short. You can kind of run through it. They quick. Yeah, like 30 minutes. You see's pretty short. You can kinda run through it. They quick. Yeah, like 30 minutes. You see Severance season? Saving it. Got it. I'm watching it tonight.

I'm gonna re-watch it actually. They ain't never gonna give me with the episodic drops, watching one episode. No, no, no, no. I'm storing them up. I like the episodic a little bit. Me too. When it's something that I'm anticipating seeing.

Otherwise I can wait and just catch a couple. If I have something that has my attention and I could wait, and Landman, Landman has me. Did you watch the joint I sent you? No, I don't. It was a Hulu series, it's called Scam Queens or something like that. Oh, I just saw the ad for that.

Yes, I'm like. You just auditioned for that, I mean. Sure. Yeah. Right, you just got it? Hey hey I am Melissa Ford and I scam my team out of 700 dollars just get the white titty cake and pull it off as a black ass that was a ill scam I ain't gonna hurt you. Yo we really sit down amongst ourselves and talk about that like how you pulled that shit off. Oh my god you guys are gonna have to let this go it's 20-25. Give me back that money.

Oh my God, you guys are gonna have to let this go. It's 2025. Give niggas back their brand. Yo, what episode you on in Land Man? Four. All right, I'm on. I'ma thug through one, yo. I'ma thug, why not fell asleep on one like three or four times? And I think that is so disrespectful to Land Man.

Yeah, I'ma thug my way. Episode one, I feel like they get to so many storylines popping, especially between one and two, but just try. I'ma force myself, but. You might fall asleep because it ain't so action. Yeah, it's a lot of dialogue and understanding all of that oil business. I'll get through it.

You hurt? Cut the closed captions off. Cause like shit like that. Hey, closed captions. When the shit I'm watching start talking in Spanish, I don't need you to say Spanish. Yeah. Espanola to say Spanish.

In Spanish. No tell me. What the fuck. Yeah. I hate that. Yeah. Y'all ain't gonna hold you. That's why I love having a bilingual queen next to me.

Well you've already proven to me and Cory that that shit has its perks. That shit has its perks. Listen and when I was watching Den of Thieves 2 and the coming attractions let me be phony real quick. Hey the residents partied about shit. Let me be phony real quick. I Know I've had a lot to say about John wick There's a new John wicker I'm not gonna lie to you The ballerina spinoff looks great wait Or at least I'll say that ballerina trailer.

You gotta watch it. Yes, I'm watching it. They got you. I'm watching it. They showed about three or four movies that I do wanna see. The Russian lady. And ballerina is one of them.

And she is the protege or the, this is the next, the next, she's girl John Wick. She in there kicking ass. Janetta. I'm she's girl John Wick. She in there kicking ass. Janetta. I'm not the biggest John Wick guy, so. I really like it. Me neither.

Oh, okay. Me either. Yeah, I'm good. I think I saw the first one, that's about it. I saw two. But if I'm a watch an action flick, I want to watch it from a movie company that is going to pay to put action in it.

For sure. And they spend the whole bunch on action. They're going to do that. Yeah, they're going to spend on action. He kill about 1,400 niggas per movie. Per scene. Head it. For sure. And they're gonna spend the whole bunch on action. They're gonna do that. Yeah, they're gonna spend on action. He kill about 1,400 niggas per movie. Per scene. Headshots. Per scene.

They don't run out of bullets. That nigga's gun is different. I was flicking through the channels in Rush Hour 2, I think, whatever it was with Chris Rock and Jackie Chan. I watched that shit. Chris Tucker. Chris Tucker. Another one that you just shouldn't watch with adult eyes and ears.

It's another one that we should just leave wherever the fuck it was. That movie, boy. Part two is the one where they went to China. Yeah. Yeah. That's the one with Rosalind Sanchez? Them niggas are saying that.

I watched it three times. You're not making another Rush Hour, girl. Sit down. This is the all, we're talking for us coming out. Sit down, girl. But I watched watching too. They was getting a lot of shit off. They're going to take you to Bangkok.

That little fight scene between, that shit was just a mess. Hey, yo, Joe, you know what's so crazy? He might be the horny one. Wait, hold up. It just said what to Mel? He made a Bangkok joke. You made a Bangkok joke, yo. Yo.

Yeah, I got to do the horny one. I ain't going to hold you. I'm going to hold you. Nah, nah, you up there. He never won them. I'm far from horny. Nah, nah, you up there. He never won them. I'm pout, nigga. No. Anyway, that's funny, yo.

We could talk about this. That shit is juvenile. It's some juvenile bullshit. It is. In film shit, Rest In Peace, David Lynch. Brilliant director. Rest In Peace. Rest In Peace.

We could talk about this on Peaks. You guys weren't the biggest David Lynch fans. I don't even know who that is. It's Swin Peaks. Swin Peaks. Swim Peaks. Swim Peaks. The Holland Drive. Swim Peaks.

The Broncos. Blue Velvet. Elephant Man. Weird shit. Lost Highway. Weird shit. Yeah, really weird shit. Rest in peace.

Yeah, rest in peace. Before we get out of here though. Speaking of rest in peace. Yeah. Did y'all hear about the dude that pulled up to the bikini coffee shop joint got caught and then some transition? Well, first, I don't think anybody knew about the bikini coffee shop joint, got caught, and then... Well, first, I don't think anybody knew about the bikini coffee spot. Yeah, so apparently there's a coffee spot where the women that serve are in bikinis.

Where is that? Kind of like in Land Man, right? A little bit. Okay, anyways. So, the young lady posted a video, the guy pulls up in the car and she like, uh-uh, like he ain't had no pants on, he was, he was getting money while he pulled up to the window.

He pulled off real fast. It was actually a couple of cars that they did this to. And the video got to circulating, so out of embarrassment the next day the dude self-transitioned. Whoa. This one I kind of have been confused about. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that there was a lot more going on in his life. It sounds like it. I would hope so. Because the act of masturbating at the local Hooters or whatever the fuck that is and getting caught and taking your own life when you're married with child, I'm befuddled. I'm not.

I'm not. Not today. It's the same thing we say about internet bullying. Yeah, yeah. Like, yo, it's different. What shit used to happen when we was in school, you know the little neighborhoods. It'll go local.

It'll be local. Yeah, he's right. Today something happens the whole world knows instantly. So to do that video getting out there. Meant what? Your wife is getting ready. Worldwide humiliation for you and your entire family. Some people out there. Meant what? Your wife is getting ready. Worldwide humiliation for you and your entire family. Some people out there that got a video of me

sleepwalking butt ass naked in the hallway. Not to compare. Joe, but you are you. I don't wanna compare. No, you are you. You come from a different era too. Yeah, somebody else is different. I think as fathers, we have a responsibility.

Million percent. And an obligation for our behavior to not do anything that would put us in a predicament to make us wanna remove ourselves from our child. Now I'm talking about a predicament, I'm not talking about mental health, that's why I said I'm gonna assume and give him the benefit of the doubt.

And I said I hope so. But if it's just this isolated act and it was the embarrassment, then my man. A lot of people can't deal with that shit. You know how many niggas are in jail for being humiliated in public and they went and got a gun and did something somebody that embarrassed them

and now they doing life? Doing it to you and doing it to myself, I don't view the same. There's a lot of people in this country. Your life is gone. I mean, one, your life might be spent behind bars, and another one, your life is gone, but. It's a privilege to wake up even behind bars.

True, tell your kids that. Tell your family that, because you use that. And they have to, right? No, I understand, but you use that as the catalyst. Like, yo, if you have a wife and you have kids, and you allow that thing that you are saying is small, I'm agreeing with you. It's not worth you taking your life.

I'm not saying it's small. It's small when it regards to you taking your life. I think if that's an isolated act. Yeah, true. I'm agreeing with you. I'm just playing, we having a conversation. So what I'm saying is nowadays with the viral moments and all of that shit, my nigga, you could

be a meme from now to eternity. Niggas can't handle that, bro. Playing with your dick over some Tim Hortons. You know what I'm saying? Like everybody not prepared to deal with that level of public embarrassment and scrutiny. Not just that, now your kids is getting picked on. Your wife, coworkers see it. Your wife's family members see her husband.

Now you can't never go to the cookout and get looked at the same when your sausage been on TV. What did he think was gonna be the outcome though? I don't think he thought that somebody was gonna put him on TV. Niggas just pull up, get his shit off and was going a little freak booty horny nigga, you gonna jerk off to the ladies with the bikinis on

but you never thinking it's gonna go viral. Well one, in New Jersey, not that, cause we getting serious, I'ma be ignorant. No me too, I said sausage y'all missed my joke. Cook out sausage. All you trying to ask is a little pun. In New Jersey, at Hooters, they stop hiring the hoes with Hooters. Like, so it made it tough, yeah, and ass. It made it tougher for you to go over there and hit your one, two, right quick one.

They ain't stop hiring them. What happened then? The strip clubs got him because it was more bread. Fuck he talking about. I ain't giving out no wings. And two, to whoever out there needs to hear this, ask somebody that's beat off in my car a few times, you gotta drive to the far end of the parking lot where you are alone.

And you gotta face the, for me it was the multiplex. Yeah, don't back in, don't back in. For me it was the multiplex when I'm at the movie theater. Come on, I'm at the movie theater early. Gotta go back there, gotta go back there, all the way to where the water is at. You go to the movie after this? Yo, dog, let me ask you a question. Oh there, you never back all the way to where the water is at. You go to the movie after this?

Yo dog, let me ask you a question. Oh yeah, a little beat off in the movie. Let me ask you a question. What's up man? What you was beating off to? Something with my phone. I had to do it. Oh y'all different.

No, I had to do it. I did that shit on the highway. You never beat off in the car? Never. Well you stand up and beat off. You can't stand up and beat off. You never beat off in the Sprinter? I laid down and beat off too.

Beat off in a U-Haul or something? Yo, dogs. Sometimes you gotta let it out, Ish. Something come. My nigga, so when the multiplex was open, because this is a long time ago. You lived around the multiplex. Go home.

Go home! The movie starts in five minutes, 10 minutes, 15 minutes. I ain't got the time, nigga. You gotta get this out. Yo, Ish, I lived life. You ain't got the time, nigga. You gotta get this out. Yo, Ish, I've lived a life. You ain't never beat off in a car, ever? Ever. Vanilla ass nigga, I've lived a life.

I don't want to talk about it, but I'm just giving advice to the people out there that want to beat off in the car. You can't do it at the, where they fucking shaking ass and wearing skirts on the roller skates and pulling up, you can't. You can't do that shit at Sonic's, nigga.

Yeah, you can't do it at Sonic's. That's what I was thinking about. You can't do that. You can't do that shit at Sonic's nigga. Yeah, you can't do it at Sonic's, that's what I was thinking about. You can't do that. You can't do that. You gotta beat off over there. You gotta watch. Yeah, you gotta be isolated. No, but when they start getting good,

you ain't checking the mirror. Yeah, go fix yourself, man. Oh my gosh. What are you talking about? And this nigga ain't no pants on. See, that's the problem too. When you beating up in the car, you just gotta scoot them down.

You can't be pants-less. You gotta scoot them down. Hey the car seat, that leather seat get cold. But get your shit off, pull them up. Be on point. Be on point and go on about your business. I don't know who needs to hear all of that. But.

Money pulled out with no pants. Y'all niggas is freak. That baby wife and Tissie in your car. Giving jerk off 101 in the car. No, I'm done. I'm done. Listen, if people gonna take their life behind this, then we can speak to it.

Yeah. That's it. Rest in peace to homeboy. I'm praying for his family. Praying for his family. His mom's came out. She's actually trying, she's actually, she's blaming the girl that recorded it.

I disagree with that. I disagree too. I disagree as well. She just wanted, cause he was going around, they were getting calls. She wasn't the girl, she was the manager of the spot. And your son might have traumatized this girl by turning off in front of her with no pair.

But if it's just a girl, then maybe you make a case of somebody just gumming up to you and telling you, oh my God, whoizing this girl, by turning off in front of her with no pen. But if it's just a girl, then maybe you make a case of somebody just coming up to you and tell you, oh my God, who's this girl? She's the manager of this place, and she sees a car out here suspicious. It's my job to walk over there, hey, dog, did you order something? Can I help you?

Oh, shit, you're getting your shit off. No, that's not, they've been getting calls of this car. Of people doing that. Going around, doing it. They got a call, so that's what she said. You been here before? Yeah, and then she got them, yeah. You been going around doing this and now we got you.

My nigga, who's just driving around with no pants on? That's... Not I. Nigga had the Mustang. What kind of car he had too? A Mustang, it was a Mustang? Yeah, what kind of car was it? On the leather?

I don't know, I wasn't pocket watching him. That matters. No, it wasn't chump. Was it a Charger? I thought it was a Challenger. Or a Camaro, one of them. It looked like one of them. Y'all better get 42 Doug's Hellcat back.

Yeah. Hey, yo, my nigga, if I get a Ferrari like you, I might be riding around in some boxes, yo. I ain't gonna hold you. You gonna have tents? Or you just gonna? Yo, I might be riding around in some boxes, yo. I ain't gonna hold you. Do you have tents? Or you just gonna? Yo, I might be riding around in some boxes. Are you gonna have tents or fish bowls?

You fish bowling? You fish bowling? Yo. You know what I'm saying? You fish bowling? I'm just saying. What's that? No tents.

No tents. Of course. I ain't buying no tents, nigga. So if you jerk off, then you gonna let them see you. I'm not jerking off in my car. But when she get in the car. Hey, yo, Ish. You know what I mean?

Look, look. I'm starting to think about it. I'm starting to think this. Yo, you might come through the little box a hole by mistake on purpose. He a freak, sir. All right, moving on. No, no, no, no, no.

Moving on. You right. No, I'm not tapping. You move. I see nasty, son. Yeah, this nigga's nasty. I think you do that other shit. I gotta say, we got really good sleepers lined up for y'all.

That's true. Oh, shit, before we really good sleepers lined up for y'all. What? Oh shit, before we get to sleepers, I have one question for Ish. It's my only question. I'm not arguing. I'm not beefing. Shoot. When the pandemic and shit was going on, you didn't get a PPP loan?

For a different company. You couldn't get P PP loans for real estate. But you did get a PP loan. I did. Okay. But you couldn't get PP loans as landlords for real estate purposes. PP loans.

I read something that said y'all got some little landlord kickback. I wanted to come in here and read it to you. I won't, because you're a landlord. Well, I'm a landlord. I mean, I've been getting these shits all, the overwhelming majority, because they've been going crazy on Twitter, the overwhelming majority is, yo, you're right. And then other people that challenge me behind closed doors, I tapped them out and they said,

yo, you're right. I stand. The biggest point of contention I saw with your argument was that the that money that you was talking about that the additional six wasn't the entire year was not for the entire year one the second that is that the yeah they tried to the 400 in some state from some places in 300 the jersey stopped in July of that year and then they kicked it then 300 instead of six they They brought up the median income in New Jersey, which was high.

That was the real beef of what you were saying. What I saw people say. You were making it sound like there was this overwhelming group that were paid more than what they were making during the time. And they were saying you should isolate the median income in New Jersey, which is higher. So these people were struggling, yada, yada, yada.

I don't bother. I don't care to get it back into all. Yeah, yeah, no, no, but again, I was speaking generally. So when you speak generally, people in New York make more money than people in Ohio. You understand what I'm saying? But overall, nationally, landlords were affected. So I didn't want to say, yo, in New Jersey,

yeah, we have a higher cost and standard of living, but that also means that landlords have higher mortgages. Right? And so the landlord's cost of living is high too. When eggs got high, nigger eggs was high, they high for the landlord too. They still are high. They still are high, you're right.

When gas is high. My pop just pulled me to the side and said, Joey, I told your mother, the eggs I buy cost $18.17. I buy the dual, the 12 and 12. And it's a class of eggs. You don't find that. It's a different level of eggs. That's my man.

That fucking time, lose that time shit, nigga. Man. Yeah. You gotta get old enough to have the tough talk with your parents. Depending on how we signed up for it, they just put the click to cancel shit into effect finally. Meaning like people that sign up for gyms,

planning fitness, all that type of shit. But you know how it was hard to get out of it. Now it's federally mandated. However you sign up, like anything, you can just click a button and get out now. Oh, that's fantastic. Oh, that's fire. Yeah.

Cause they was holding niggas to memberships. Like that's crazy. You gotta call a number and do some freaky shit. Oh no, nigga. And niggas would be like, nah, well what had happened was you ain't read that far and cut at the bottom. Sorry y'all. My DJ skills don't work.

Shit, get the fuck out of here. No, you getting better. I'm trying. You getting better. Y'all can see white glasses nigga. I ain't been listening to nothing new. So I do not have a new sleeper. Again, shout out to Teddy Swims.

I think I played that record last week. Yeah you did. So I'm not have a new sleeper again shout to Teddy swims. I think I played that record last week. Yeah, you did So I'm going throwback. I'm going with one of my favorite groups of all time This is high five and this is unconditional love I do know this song. You don't know. What you doing this song without? What year is this? 94? 94. If I was 14, you was 17, 18.

You was fucking. Definitely. And I moved him in the house. You told us you never gave that nigga no coochie. Wait, what? You be lying. No! That's a lie. See? No! Yes you did!

Oh man. Yo, you don't even remember your lies. Hold on a second. You are the best liar. You are the best liar. I love them liars though. Hold on one second here. You are the Rocky of lying.

Who are we talking about? It's on Big Mel, yo. Who are we talking about? You told us you did not lose your virginity to that nigga that y'all moved in the crib. I didn't. I'd already lost my virginity. I didn't. Sure you will. I'd already lost my virginity. I don't want to talk about that.

You told us that. I would come the highest speed To the deepest sea I would go to the desert land I would do anything For your love I'm here to show you Hey Let's go Joe. For your love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I can never say no to anything that you ask

And I really hope that you would do the same for me Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah How far will you go? How far will you go? In honesty? And that's the way it's supposed to be Unconditional love Honestly, unless the wind is supposed to be unconditional love How far will you go, girl? Time, time, time, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye I don't know what to do Girl I'm head over heels in love with you And I need to know what it means to you With all this madness going round

I really think it's time that we settle down Be my only girl And I'll be your only man I think it's time that we settle down Be my only girl And I'll be your only man Tell me girl It's a precious In honesty And that's the way it's supposed to be Unconditional Girl

Tell me how far will you go Girl Take my time, time, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice And that's the only way it's supposed to be Unconditional, girl I'd be right there for you Time to sacrifice, to a die I need an unconditional, how far will you go? I would fly the highest peak Swim the deepest sea I would cross the deserts of land I would do anything For your love, love, yeah

Would you do the same for me? Girl, girl You know I love you so much It's important for couples to stay together I never want you to leave me I missed this part of the song for the 90s Yeah, what? You see baby, you need somebody in your corner

I tried to do that on a couple of S.L.V. songs You did? It was kinda hard Fuckin' Imani stole my vocals, man Get some sex That's, that's, that's it I'm not in love, still not in love Baby, yeah I'm just running across on the street You and me, baby

On condition of love, girl Love Yeah One edition of love My, my, my, my, my baby Trust, honesty I mean, they lose some beat on the end for you fuck R&B niggas That's brand new, very, very, very old music that is High 5.

And that record is called Unconditional Love. Love those guys, man. Rest in peace, Tony Thompson. And rest in peace. I'm going to Houston on this one. And watch that High 5 doc if you haven't seen it. I don't know where it's at. They got a doc?

Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. It's on YouTube. If you can't find it it's on YouTube. Them niggas had a hard time. Like the different Strokes cast of R&B groups. But anyway. Done? Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, don't do that. Iceman, you've been old like a little square off, man. What is this? Get this shit off, man. I'm going to Houston on this one.

The record is called Turn Me Up, and it's by Libra Jolie. Let's go, Libra. Buddha blesses me. This shit on. She's smoking this shit. She's fine. She's smoking this shit. Turn me up, ho can't fuck like me, can't cook like me,

can't fuck like me Can't cook like me, can't look like me That bitch ain't built like me, ain't booked like me Wish you could like me It Hulk be talkin' all that shit, they wish they could Heard a Hulk be lookin' fuck me, I might've been wish a bitch would Turn me up, tell a Hulk come out and play, you know I lay shit down Heard she mad about one of these niggas But he my favorite now

He call me baby now And shit we just met You really wasting breath No shade but this nigga just love I ain't pop my shit on the white coat in a minute I swear to God I ain't going back and forth With a hoe that say no tennis I swear to God

These hoes be looking for Claudia in my mention Swear to God A hoe really fuck my beat he catch a feeling But you the man, huh? You fucking men's, huh? Ain't got no Benz, huh? That little bitch fan died I think she playing now

You can't be that dumb All the niggas in the world with money And you fuck that one Turn me up Can't fuck like me, can't cook like me, can't look like me That bitch ain't built like me, ain't booked like me Wish you could like me It hope be talking all that shit, they wish they could

Heard a hoe be lookin' for me, I'm out in the wish a bitch would Turn me up, hoe can't fuck like me, can't cook like me, can't look like me That bitch ain't built like me, ain't booked like me Wish you could like me It ho be talkin' all that shit, they wish they could Heard a hoe be lookin' for me, I'm out in the wish a bitch would Fuck all that talk, I'm tweakin' And you know I'm a crash, I demon

Bitch, you gon' die behind that dick, I'm tweakin' And you know I'm a crash, I demon Bitch, you gon' die behind that dick I'm clickin' out, I mean it Runnin' her mouth, she teasin' Bitch mad, ain't got no reason Like a holiday, it's my season Man, these hoes got me fucked up I'm in that big body truck

Find shit, better get your money up D-Haw be talkin' bout goin' 50-50 With a nigga for a nut Bitch, I wish I was it I could never be the hoes you fuckin' How you gave your pussy up to a bitch, nigga, still left with nothing Turn me up, hoe can't fuck like me, can't cook like me, can't look like me That bitch ain't built like me, ain't booked like me, wish you could like me

It ho be talkin' all that shit, they wish they could Heard a hoe be lookin' for me, I'm out in the wish a bitch would Turn me up, hoe can't fuck like me, can't cook like me, can't look like me That bitch ain't built like me, ain't booked like me, wish you could like me It ho be talkin' out all that shit, they wish they could Heard a ho be lookin' for me, I might as well wish a bitch would Turn me up, turn me up, turn me up Turn me up, turn me up Is that for your records?

I told the nigga Cash sent me some bread. The nigga go Cash sent me and said, I have no idea why. Why would you write that? Why you did that for your records? That little note shit is important to niggas with bad memories. Alright, swimming classes. And again, that record was Turn Me Up by Libra Jolie. That record was hard. What's her Up by Libra Jolie. That record was hard.

What's her name? Libra Jolie. She sound good, she's from Chicago? No, she's Houston. I played a couple of records up here before. She's hard. Oh, I don't know about her. I was out there and wasn't familiar with your game.

That was hard. I'm going to play some Busta Rhymes, man. We put out a new EP today. This is Letter to My Children. Let me bust a punch a nigga on the roll out. She got new, she got new. EP today this is letter to my children. What these rappers know by spittin' on these swaps, my nigga? Niggas are temperate, but they shit be signing whack, my nigga They rap like two trains collided on a track, my nigga Blame it credit for the shit we fathered tryna dab me, nigga

The original fashion forward advocate Dread up on hairstyles that niggas would never think of Pioneer, so much shit it be making your bitch bug I'm finally in a place in my life where I'm the happiest Bars full of punishment when I spit, bitch, I'm finally in a place in my life where I'm the happiest Bars full of punishment when I spit bitch I'm the nastiest I'm a different type of creature Request collabs and hit a bar They start when they fall from the feature Yeah, thank your moms for the life she gave Beat you with punchlines that hurt

Now you asking your moms to save ya I'm your daddy when it came to these raps I'm the one that raised ya The weird child at birth Now you beggin' for me to change ya So I nurture all of my children so they don't see me as a stranger I teach them how to eat you niggas' food and be the danger I think the niggas need to move from around me I believe it's safer how I negotiate with promoters Nigga give me my paper Look, could give a fuck where niggas come from

I continuously run towards what most of you niggas run from Most of these niggas scared to rap with me Now what's the purse bet? Better rethink all your favorites and why and get me your verses yet I'm still waiting, I'm still waiting From the high you on, from the percocet While I continue giving niggas beans and your squad hurts I give you spankings bitch, don't ever question how a law works I jump in the souls of the people and give them large spurts

When I'm fighting demons, I be still making your mom squirt You rap niggas, I ain't here to pacify ya But while your father's present, I might pass the pacifier You don't want the smoke, so walk right past the fire And end up being the one left as another ass for hire Another nigga lost with all the confused symptoms Let me guide you to the destination as your navigation system You're equally fucked up, let me send to y'all Big homie here, let me try to mentor y'all Scientists, when it comes to the culture Let them refill the baskets with rose petals

Whenever I enter y'all Shit, that's what I'm talking about They see greatness in busts of u-turn and start walking out Employees working hard as hell learn what a boss about Fascination with sanitation. I love to toss them out My aspiration is to force around and eliminate any possibility to source a doubt Feed you sickness that swear your foot up like it uncalled a gout throw this money and bag your bitches cause a coachy drought I'm nice with both hands. I will manage lay up with my left and right like I'm making a sandwich My frequency is powerful niggas to check the bandwidth when I fuck you niggas up and continue taking advantage

Welcome to Dragon season Buster I'm sluttering my children And fucked them up for no reason It's nice to hear Busta sounding like Busta again Yeah, I said it double time Yeah, yeah, yeah What you got Ish? I'm going to, um, Horace Brown featuring Jay-Z What happened in there?

Now you kinda sparked my lil' man me back Fuck out of here No, you did the high five Oh So I was gonna play Shy, I was gonna play some, you know, I mean back. No, you did the high five. So I was gonna play shy, I was gonna play some, you know what I mean? Oh, so his sleeper inspired your sleeper, is what you're saying. Today. Got it.

Today. Today, yeah. I was gonna do changing faces. Got it. You know what I mean, I was gonna, yeah. But I'ma just go whole brow, featuring Jack. How we do? Big look. Ready, set. Featuring Jay. Just the things we do Ha ha Lightning winds Girls and things Trips and miss and love

Things we do for love Fancy cars And panic cars Do you remember Things we do for love Romantic places in my mind Hoping someday I would find the perfect one And I just shared

And then that day you walked inside And no longer could I hide my love I had to take you there Sailing on a cruise at night Rays into the ocean under the moonlight Taking me to paradise And I can feel it all When it means a thousand things, two things in a single word

Things we don't fall in love, things we don't fall in love Because you're granted cause love You remember, you remember Things we don a fall in love I shot with you with gifts of love But it was never enough To bring You closer to me Chicken money was no thing

The several pleasures that you bring My wings Makes me back to the days we were Selling on a cruise at night Rays into the ocean on the moonlight Taking you to paradise to paradise yeah yeah When it rains

Thousand things, trips in the summer Things we do for love Fancy cars, granite cars Do you remember? Things we do for love? Keep shorty dip like Grom Dada's We ain't home, it's trips to Nevada Push your chips on 6, I roll tray twice People way in the back, hoping they're crappin' They don't even play dice Me an old girl against the whole world

Under the lights, ice lookin' blue Mother of pearls, just the things we do, baby Down in your wrist, one of the many reasons that I rhyme like this Spend 20, push a 320, drop, gold chains, ice around the penny Hot, envy, yes it finish, stop, baby cop the Benz 3E Backed it out the lot, made a whole crew sick Jet around the wave, playin whole brown nu-shin Motown, 3G, CZ, Bacardi, JC Baby see you at the platinum party The granite cars, do you remember?

Things we do for love, love Lightning wings, girls and things Trips and missing love Things we do for love, love Fancy cars, the granite cars Do you remember? Things we do for love? As things we do for love, Horace Brown and Jay-Z. That's the Eddie F remix. The time was had.

Fuck. All right, well, since we're, I'm just going to keep the rhythm going with old school shit. Okay. Okay. This is my um, I pick. Troop, I Will Always Love You. Ah. Ah. Ah.

Ah. That's what? Nah, I hit the niggas with the, uh, spread my wings, though. Spread my wings I tried to figure out a pathway back to you Break me down to little pieces Show me all the things you need I will make your special wish come true, yeah When things go wrong you need someone to help you see them through I will always be there for you

I want someone to stand beside you I'll hold you With this wind I'll be the best I won't be the very best I will always My love won't stop Baby you, I find the reason to keep trying Baby let me take you to heaven I'm gonna let you try for a second Let me show you, yeah baby I love you, hold you, tonight with this ring I pledge I will be the best, I will be the best, I will always

We'll always Take my body for your pleasure This will be the night I treasure Forever is my memory of you Close your eyes and make three wishes Take my hand and realize this time I'll be the very best for you When things go wrong you need someone to help you see through I will always love you In the nighttime when you know that I will Hold you

If it's when I push out I will be your best I will be the very best I'll be around I'll be around I'll be around I'll be around I'll be around

I'll be around I'll be around I'll be around I'll be around I'll be around I'll be around Only you, we feel safe I'll be the best I'll be the very best I'll be the power of my highest being With the devil's seed

I will rock and dance with you I will always be with you I will always play with you now I'm gonna play with you now I love you I love you J.I.I. With this With this I pledge I will be

I will be the best I will always I will always love you I will always love you I will always love you I will always love you She said she ready. She means like you ready. She can't. Show Joe the video.

I'm gonna put it in. I'm gonna send it to him. Nah, I might put it back in my rotation. Yo, three glasses of Merlot. That nigga start rubbin' on your leg on the West Side Highway. About four. Three. About three.

Three. She's some. Water. Some seltzer. Nah, my girl Mel is red. Mel, that nigga said some seltzer water. I said water. Some seltzer. Now my girl Mel is red. Mel, right? That nigga said some seltzer water. I said water. Any beverage.

Seltzer. Apple juice. Are you thirsty? That shit falling off the bone. Since that Chicago nigga came out with his family. Oh my god. Since Facebook guy act, that shit is ready to go. Yo, I can't believe.

What? You fell for that Facebook guy? This shit went to Chicago after that. Hey, big man. Posting no pictures. I told y'all 2025, we out of Mel's pussy business. What? You hating on my man. What man?

Oh nigga, they got a Facebook hack? Yeah. Yeah, it's Facebook got hacks though, right? I told y'all, we mining Mel's pussy, I mean we not mining Mel's pussy business. At all. Not in 2025, but we hear from the music. You around, you, you know, We minding Mel's pussy, I mean we not minding Mel's pussy business. At all. Not in 2025, but we hear from the music.

You around, you, so you be sleeping on you around. Like you around niggas that get information when you ain't trying to give it. So when you play a little slow jam like that, real niggas could tell. Uh oh. Uh oh. Hey. Little shot, I was gonna hit them with that shot. Hey, she ain't quite ready to go home after the meal.

So what you doing? She ain't ready to hit home after the dinner. What you doing? What you doing? What you doing? I was going to drop you off. No, I want to hang out for a moment. Yeah.

You trying to be the gentleman. I'm going to drop you off. Already? I'm going to drop you off home. Damn, so soon. Already? It's early, though. That's how you get there.

I'm wide awake. Oh, man. I'm up. Sleepy. I took a nap early That's how you get there. I'm wide awake. Oh, man. Sleepy. I took a nap early because I knew he was going to hang out. I'm not even tired yet. You sure you don't want to go bowling? Hey. What are you trying to say?

Can we just get back to your place? I want to play some balls. That's what you're trying to say. Oh, whoa. You did that. Word. And you did that so you could write it in the suit against us. Yeah. You did that. Keep my name out that suit could write it in the suit against us. Yeah.

You did that. Hey, you know, keep my name out of that suit, please, even though I know my name is on each page. Your name is in bold print at the top. And again, flip. Queen's flip. Trevor. Trevor.

Trevor came, commented on. Yeah, I mean, yo, speaking of bowling, I don't know what y'all are doing Monday night. Me and Cory have been talking about it. Let's go hit that new bowling alley up there. There's one near. There's one near. Monday night. I and Corey been talking about, let's go hit that new ball in the alley up there. There's one near. Monday night. I'm with it.

Mel? Yep. Freeze. I'm with it. Fuck it, yeah. When y'all say it like that, it seem like I'm forcing y'all to hang out. No, no, no, I'm sitting with it. I'm with it.

Yeah, but then the audience. Fuck them, we know what it is, I'm with it. I never been there, I just be driving right by there. Dash told me it's fine. Dash shouldn't be going, they said it's fine. Oh, if Dash going. Dash taste is typically my taste too.

Shout out to Dash. Shout out to him. Classy gentleman. And live right there by my son's school so he be letting me use his driveway. Shout out to Dash. What? Transactional.

Are we gonna talk about on Patreon? Yeah. Or you gonna run and cower? Who? You. I don't even know. Joe, you just got- I'm asking you. I'm not trying to be funny, I'm asking you.

If my man answer you, are you gonna acknowledge the fact that you have that effect on people? That you have that effect? That you become friends with niggas and you don't value the friendship as much? He's admitted that. I didn't know that, I didn't know that. No, he said it was me.

You don't value friendships as much as niggas do value. At all. But you value family. At all. Family is the only one that gets a pass. My real friends is my family. I ain't gonna play with you. Word tricks, baby.

I'm not trying to be funny. My friends that are friends. Yo, I know him for how many years, he can shake his butt. I know him for a lot of years. I know him for a lot of years. Him for a lot of years. Him for a lot of years.

You clock 15 or more with me and we on the other side still standing we survived some shit You family you family, but you if you fall out you still have some shit to say that would downplay it though No, no, I didn't say nothing about it. We fell out. I don't say nothing about With I try not to talk about people. I got after we Trying to diminish you yo if you were a part of my history in any type of way, I do appreciate it. I'll show that respect and I speak about it.

Me, I'm not saying everybody gotta do that. But yeah, my real friends is family. My mom called for me. Hey, the cables, something's happening. Dad, can you come? Hey, you're gonna hear my iPod. Won't take all the OJ's music that I got. Wanna hate that. Yeah, my iPod won't take all the OJ's music that I got.

Yeah, my friends, yeah. But friends? What's a fucking friend? A lot of people get hurt by that though. It's a track record. A lot of people when they come out, yo, I realized later on or in the business transaction. Cause we never get closure.

I don't give closure. I don't believe that you need somebody else to get closure too though. Not just that, most people don't. You. I don't give closure. I don't believe that you need somebody else to get closure too though. Not just that, most people don't. You agree with him with that? Most people don't conduct business with closure. You agree that you don't believe that you need to get, you don't need somebody else to get the closure that you need?

It depends on the circumstance. A lot of times niggas will step over. Freeze, you co-harded anyway. A lot of times niggas will step over a line where I'm never gonna speak to you again in my life. So I don't need. You can never return back to where I was. That's the closure. That's the closure. When you see me in the street

and I look like I ain't see you. That should be your closure. Or you know what you did. So what if they apologize or try to? It depends. Some shit you can't apologize for. Some shit is unapologizable. Yeah, I agree with that.

Really? Keep your apology. I don't even need that. You apologizing for you. I don't want your apology. Even if you're not apologizing for you. Even if you mean it. Yeah, some people are just.

I know that you have the ability to behave this way with people that you love. I'm good. I think humans, all humans, I believe to be pieces of shit. We can all adapt. We can all get shady if we need to. But when you get shady with somebody that you love,

like was there for you, I know the audience got a blast. Hey Joe, you're the shadiest motherfucker in the world. That's not you. I know the audience gonna be blasting, hey, yo, you're that shady ass motherfucker in the world. That's not true. I just, once it's over, I don't speak to why it's over, how it's over, how I felt about it, how you hurt me, it's over. Does it give you sort of like a,

not, I don't wanna say thrill, but. No, I don't get any thrill from it. So what I'm saying is that if. I be hurt more than anything. When people say. Wait, I'm finished with this sentence because I think I know where you're going. Does it give you a thrill that people

mess up with you and then end up regretting it later? And then they talk about, yo, the only thing that they use is that I don't think Joe valued his friendship as much as we did or I did. Uh, sometimes. Oh, okay. Sometimes.

Thank you. That's fucked up to me, but I like it. No, it's not. No, no, meaning that... Because you know why people will cross you, right? People will cross you. We gotta talk like it. No, it's not no no You know why people across you right people across you we got to about on patreon But yeah, we are people across you right and the only reason that they really feel regretful Is when you are you ascend it? Now you get in the mud in your face because I'm up if I was still down

You'll still be cool with your decision. I know I know that I don't know It's been people that's lower than me that I felt bad. Being around people, being around friends, and they may tell a story. You crossed them? And I might have crossed them, and I'd go home and think about it, and like, oh shit. You didn't realize how much value they added to your life?

How much value or I might have took advantage of a situation. I've been on this journey of correcting advantages that I might have took. You have been, that's gross. You know what I'm saying? So, and I thank y'all. Yeah, but even in that,

you gotta live with the loss of a good friend if they on the other side of, yo, you did some shit that there's no coming back from. You lost a good person. They don't have to accept you. But it's hard to accept that. It is. Because you would try to apologize,

I change, you wanna show them, you wanna change. It doesn't matter. Let me show you. And then you start to think, because then you start to trick yourself and manipulate yourself to get mad all over again. Okay, you never really value me because my apology isn't valuable to you. So, talk about it on Patreon.

Because this nigga cold blooded. This nigga ice. Nigga silver surfer nigga. No, I don't think so. That nigga, what? I think that nigga the way this nigga Think I'm a good guy. No, I'll be looking at that. He's I think you're a good guy. No, you're a sucker sometimes like me

No, when you know when somebody do certain shit to you my nigga, yeah, we could go to patreon Yeah, I ain't with that but he needs it. He don't say it though. So? He lets you. That's a fucking trick. It's like some fucking maze. It's not my fault. I feel like Joe was a good stock to have.

That's how I view myself. Oh, that's Bitcoin. If you in it for the wrong reasons, I say Joe was a good stock to have. That shit going up, up up up up up up up. I always felt like that. I may be a contrarian. If you're not in it, I don't know. I told you what I made already pocket wide. I told you I 3x'd whatever it was. No, I was more than 3. No, I was 3 or 4. 5 or 6. Who counted? I had to count for it in my estate planning. It's that much. Yeah, but if you're not in it for the wrong reasons then there's no reason for any of this to ever come up. We're just friends.

All right, man. Damn. This sip was right, E, feel this? ["I Forgot To Call You On Your Birthday"] I don't give a fuck what y'all got to say out there. This guy will be missed. And that's why I be hating when niggas be like, yo he only make bubble gum pop that nigga in. Nah, this nigga's just fuck outta here. This man will be missed.

I don't like to fall off. I don't like how the breakup is going between my love for him and his catalog. I don't love it, but this man right here, yo, is one of the best times in music in your lives, in your entire lives. Listen, man, yeah, I miss the nigga that was getting hurt, dubbed, played, violated That's why he fucked everybody girl That's why he fucked everybody girl But you did that to me?

I don't wanna talk about that I do, you lose them how you get them How you come in is how you go out Look, look, yo, niggas don't wanna talk about that I love you, you say you. How you come in is how you go out. Look, look. Joe is crazy. Niggas don't want to talk about that. I love you. You're bogged out. Something's wrong with you. I may be.

I may be. I got some wild ideologies, but this one hurts, man. This is. It had to be somebody, but before. Somebody in your life that might have come. And when you went up, you might have shot at the back. Jay-Z over Drake in the verses. Jay-Z over everybody to me. Jay-Z over everybody to me.

Jay-Z over everybody to me. It's a horror. Look at all right. Jay-Z. You got Jay-B and Jay-Z? You got to say Kanye West. I mean, it's biased. It's biased.

I think Hov might have a hard time with Kanye just because his producer bag. He's got so much of his grades on like. Jay-Z has a very hard time with Drake. Very hard. 20 songs. Anybody in the world has a hard time with Drake. Very hard. 20 songs. Anybody in the world has a hard time with this boy in the verses.

Drake in that pin bag. Everybody has a hard time. Oh, everybody? It's no winning. Well, who I am in my spirit and soul would never let me say that. Everybody has a hard time with him. But it's gonna be about what people's personal preferences

are at that point. Song match up. You know what I'm saying? It's about your preferences at that point. This nigga is great. Drake man. This boy is good. Yo keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there keep him in your prayers too. This fall off is horrible. Until then I bid you a due farewell adios to Reba Durche, Asta La la vista, au revoir, so long, goodbye, or simple head nob, will suffice. Hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you. Remember that life is a series of moments and this was a long

moment and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have Last but certainly not least The baddies are insecure to stagnate women want to travel to close-minded women want you to teach them things She ain't got ass. She's just sitting on the countertop Grab you a Tylenol you might need it Say by his weekend plans? Talk to me, talk to me, talk to me.

Work, work, work, work. Put things together. Some family shit, family shit. All right, family shit, we got work shit. Big male staying in town, huh? Uh-huh. Ish, some work and shit, some house shit. I'm still just going out of town, man.

I'm not going out of town. No, no, she here. Mm-hmm. Love will be right here. I'm not going out of town. No, no she here. Mm-hmm. Love will be right here. I'm not sneaking around. All she do is sneak. Yo, man, will you take the Amtrak at this point in your life? No, I'm just saying, will you take the Amtrak? Yeah!

Oh, I'm just saying, the Amtrak, go. Yo, everybody enjoy their weekend. Stay safe, head on a swivel at all times. At all times. We will be back same time same place next week Yo, my man work for Amtrak, speaking of Accela Yo, listen, this shit is amazing bro Don't keep it bro, look This nigga is the greatest The nigga is on an Accela train going from New York to DC Nigga gets on the train looking weird

Like they said he was mad suspicious They kept asking him for his ticket, for his ticket For his ticket, for his ticket For his ticket, for his ticket train going from New York to DC. Nigga gets on the train looking weird. Like they said he was mad suspicious. They kept asking him for his ticket, for his ticket, for his ticket. He ain't give nobody a ticket. They stopped. They ain't stopped.

They made a detour to a cellar in Philly. The cops came. The nigga had a bag of guns this big on a cellar train. When was this? Just recently? Yeah, last week. Your man? My man works for Amtrak. He's on a cellar and they go on the DC. So your man wasn't the nigga that got locked up? No. No my man works for

Amtrak. They say yo luckily the the conductor took it upon his own discretion to get off in Philly. They don't know what would have happened but they caught this thing. I got the picture of the guns, a bag of guns. Three handguns, two rifles. I got the picture on my phone. That's crazy. That's crazy. So keep your head on the swivel. When you brought up the Amtrak, it was like, when?

Yeah. Shout out to your man. That shit is crazy, man. First class ticket joint. Again, head on a swivel at all times. We praying for the people inside and outside of these rooms We praying for the homeless we praying for the sick both physically and mentally all y'all and my prayers man Let's do our best to get back here next week

Same time same place. We've enjoyed this. Hopefully y'all have enjoyed it as well We gone man. I don't know what I'm getting into this weekend. I gotta see as well we going man I don't know what I'm getting into this weekend I gotta see shout to the bitches that just go with the wind blows oh I'm just going with the flow just going with the vibe of the night vibe of the night gonna get you crab legs going to the Knicks game probably go get some garden glizzies. Hey, I love a garden glizzy with the little seafood. What'd you want me to do, man? Go home, watch a little lamb man. Crab, crab, crab, crab. That's even worse. Crab. I don't think that crab tastes

great with the glizzy. Whatever. Can we own it? No, nigga. I'm not, you might have a crab. No, the seafood spot is next to the glizzy spot. Oh, they're doing a surf and surf. In the garden. They're doing a surf and surf. I thought it was crab meat in the glizzy. That's what I thought, too.

Oh, fuck. Mel, get Tupperware. Shut the fuck up. That's what you need to go do this weekend. When's your birthday? Oh, it passed. We don't know. November. We don't want to know.

Big Mel, 52, I mean, fuck off. 50, 50, the big five-on-it. No, it's not. How old you turn to, 49? Yes. Nigga, you close. You gonna be 49? You a sneeze at 50?

I think so. Yo, where I'm at? I don't know. You're 50, you're 50 and 50. Okay, y'all, can you just wrap this this f... Can we throw you a 50-year birthday party? I'm talking about me. Actually, yes.

Exactly, but we not inviting any of your friends. Look, back at it again. No. We not inviting any of your friends. We go by our own friends. You know who we're inviting? Oh, man. It's the Sketchers. Blank Doc Carter turned rapper in the water.

Hey, separate fathers from their daughters. Hey. Sketchers. Terrible. We terrible, aren't we? You more terrible than than me. She might be a plus one. Oh, sorry. And my Andy. I heard a peep about Mandy out of you since she moved to fucking Mississippi.

You've never heard a peep about Mandy out of me. She moved? I don't know, I'm just talking shit to her. Stop doing that to the girl. How you getting it now? Nowadays. Oh shit. Getting in what? Anywhere.

Anywhere you want to go. Oh shit. Oh shit. Same way I got in for the last 48 years. Parking on the sidewalk, nigga. Fuck you talking about? You can't park on the sidewalk in these stupid ass times. You got extra tires.

You got extra tires. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not for daddy. JVP, JBP Why would you be without the JBP?