The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 793 | "Kaputz"
Episode Date: January 22, 2025A day removed from the 2025 Presidential inauguration, the JBP starts the latest episode with a look at the changes Donald Trump is already making (25:40) as well as the backlash towards Snoop Dogg fo...r performing at a pre-inauguration crypto event (35:20). TikTok’s ban has seemingly been delayed despite it being removed from the app store (1:09:52), Dave Chappelle’s appearance on Saturday Night Live leads the room to discuss their favorite comedians of all-time (1:18:20), and Joey Bada$$ returns with another record titled ‘Sorry Not Sorry’ (1:31:00). Also, Marc Lamont Hill says the Hovengers came after him for his Beanie Sigel take (1:40:37), the room unpacks a pair of Part of the Show questions (2:06:44), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: www.patreon.com/joebudden Sleeper Picks: Joe | PnB Rock & DJ L Nasty - “High” Ice | Ryan Witherspoon - “First Quarter” Parks | Mac Miller - “Rick’s Piano” Ish | ELENA - “Golden” Melyssa | greek - “RIPCORD”
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What?
Okay.
Right up on them too.
Right on Erie Avenue.
Uh huh.
Right there.
Hey everybody.
Is that where he's from?
As soon as we're on Erie Avenue, he got bigger problems than me.
I know.
You said, is that where he's from?
Yeah.
We went to the shades early.
No, he's not.
You know, he got to put-
I didn't think so.
He got to put- He got to put back early. I saw that. He's painting you in the game, boy. No, he's not.
I didn't think so.
He's got to put back on the fly shit
that niggas complimented.
No, I just see the vibe, dude.
Everybody is on.
Da da da da.
They're like, Michael, looking for the Super Bowl.
Hey, are we on?
We on.
Hello.
Hello.
Good day.
You guys did a mic check, pause?
We did, in British.
Okay.
In British?
In British.
Funny, isn't it?
Isn't it?
Oh man.
How y'all feeling?
Feeling good.
Feeling good.
You look great.
Joe, you look very bundled up, man.
Yeah, right.
It ain't that cold in here, my man.
Everything's so dramatic with this
Go ahead talk
That's nice
Cashmere, that's why you that's why you wore it. Let's go man. You play right into it
We was ignoring him fuck that scarf nigga
Or it's nine degrees outside,
and as one of the only smokers here
that actually utilizes that, without a jacket,
it probably would be nice to have at least a scarf.
It's not nine degrees in here.
You're not smoking right now.
So the scarf, while bundled up sitting here,
your fucking neck about to be sweating.
But why?
You don't speak for my body type.
I don't speak for your body type.
Or how I like to be. No, no. You ain't never cuddled. You be sweating that for my body. I don't speak for your body. No, no.
You ain't never cuddled with me.
You be sweating neck all you want.
You never cuddled with me.
No sir, no sir.
I kept the door locked.
You didn't sleepwalk in here.
You don't know how fast I perspire.
I don't wanna know.
That's a good one for you.
Yeah, on my body.
Fuck you niggas.
Mm.
How you doing? I hate that scarf. You good Why is my scarf on you so much? He's like a fucking, like a. That shit's fly. It's fly.
It's in the house, it's not.
It's fly outside.
It's like an anime character.
I want my neck to be warm paws.
Like why do I even got a.
This ain't even something I want to speak to my niggas about.
What the fuck.
The way you got it on nigga, like you're in the Sahara desert.
Nigga take that off.
I'm like, I'm not gonna do that.
I'm not gonna do that.
I'm not gonna do that.
I'm not gonna do that.
I'm not gonna do that.
I'm not gonna do that.
I'm not gonna do that.
I'm not gonna do that.
I'm not gonna do that.
I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. pause like why this ain't even something I want to speak to my niggas about the way you got it on nigga like you're in the Sahara desert nigga take that
shit off you got it on up here blocking like on some fashion shit like you
always do some fashion I wasn't trying to make a fashion statement so put it on
record tie it like how mom is tying it.
He got the fly shit with the red. He do with the hat. I'm like, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that.
I'm not gonna do that.
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I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. I, good. The reveal. Life altering. You and Trey plan on wearing the same hat like that
or is that just some fly shit, there's my son
and we speak to each other.
Telepathically.
I'm gonna give you a number right.
Telepathically.
Yeah, both.
I got you.
Thank you, and I would appreciate that.
Same one.
Don't give me nothing Burlington, nigga.
Same exact hat, bro.
You was in Burlington for a long time that night
when you went over there.
I was.
You was getting your shit off in the hour 13.
I wasn't getting my shit off.
I was looking for a pair of jeans in the hour 13.
I was going to the store.
Walking in slow motion.
He had a slice.
I might have went through the whole McDonald's
drive through, Shane smoked,
he was in there for a while that night.
Oh man.
Got that fly academics gear from 2003.
Yeah, you buggin'.
I got some shit, man, it's cool.
You got some Pepes?
Jibose.
Oh man, yo, good to see all y'all.
Yeah, good to be seen.
What's poppin'?
Hey, Chip.
Yeah?
I got a problem.
What's your problem? What's up? You know, Chet. Hey. I got a problem. What's your problem?
What's up?
Ish, Ish is my problem.
Ish's birthday was last week.
And as his friend, new friend, you know what I mean?
Because he had a lot of mans,
so I don't know what category I fit in.
You not mans yet?
The lowest tier of mans.
Yeah.
Let me help you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
It's the lowest possible, it's the intern.
I'm trying to get in. The intern tier of mans. It's the lowest possible, it's the intern,
the intern tier of mans.
I'm trying to get in the building.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
You're leaving me, haven't had enough of it.
No, for real.
But it's your birthday, was last week Thursday.
Well, it's fucked up, I knew that,
and I didn't say happy birthday to him,
so I guess I'm foul.
Pogs.
I know.
That's white people shit, y'all get away with that.
It's okay, man.
Y'all put us as slaves, niggas, salute.
Happy belated, man.
Happy belated.
Yeah, man. Thank God you ain't let somebody take. Happy belated, man. Happy belated. Yeah, man.
Thank God you let somebody take charge of the cake.
You know what I'm saying?
Niggas would have been on 1500.
No, we got to get a building cake for this construction
worker.
I have a theme in mind.
At some point, y'all have to get y'all closure for this cake
without her participation.
Because she's never gonna stand up.
How you do that?
But Joe, there's a way to get it.
You do that.
Yeah, we can't help her participation
in sending the bread back.
No, yeah.
I'll be close.
You can get closure without the other person.
Beat her back?
No.
Unless we charge her with it.
Yo, now we doing such and such.
We need your...
Oh yeah, yeah.
Work it out.
Scale back. I still got his request. No, we need you. Oh yeah, yeah. Work it out. Scale back.
I still got his request.
No, it timed out.
It expired?
Yeah, it expired.
Like yo, she didn't respond to it.
Well I feel like this weekend might have
made up for that a little bit.
Ooh.
Careful what you ask for.
Hey, I ain't complaining.
Hey, we good?
Oh yeah, good.
So that ain't no biggie.
What the hell happened this weekend?
Oh, we went out to Disney on Ice.
I brought the whole fam.
Why were you at Disney on Ice?
I had a box at Barclays.
What type of question is that to even ask
a black woman in 2025 though?
Why were you there?
I think the insinuation is that I have no children, so why would I be at Disney on nights?
Oh my god, that's even worse.
The insinuation was, I do more like, why would you invite her
and not the person with the two of you?
So even more hate.
Oh, it's all hate.
This is all hate.
But it was your body.
No, listen.
Listen, listen.
She was fired.
It's whining.
Oh, you going to put this on so that I'm not going to hold you?
Auntie Mel?
Listen.
Auntie Mel had laid out.
Mark, please blame my head and not my heart.
Because honestly, I invited this one.
He didn't come. Blame my head and not my heart. honestly, I invited this one. He didn't come.
Blame my head and not my heart.
Wow.
She threw that off.
Wait, you said honestly?
You went to the black church, honestly.
Wait, hold on.
Wait, she turns Canadian when she's on the spot.
Honestly, listen.
No.
Mark forgives you.
It's fine.
So you invited everybody but Mark?
Because I got invited too.
No, that's not.
That's not it.
Oh. That's not it. Wait, wait, can you say that?
This is Disney on Ice.
I'm skating right by that.
Skating right by that.
No, but I will have another opportunity.
Oh, yeah, we cut that.
Oh, she'll catch you on the makeup.
Cut that, cause you know, it's the Jameson bit.
Yeah, yeah, cut that. Yeah's the Jameson bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got you all.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When he come up with me, up here, he just get mad.
I watch all the old shit.
I even watch the night school shit in, like, secretly.
He don't talk about it like this.
I mean, he get a lot of shit on.
It's like he finally free up here.
That shit sound crazy.
People are like, yo, you know, I was watching the news
and I feel like, you see my books in the back of your head.
Nigga drink his juice like this with his pinky.
I'm here, look how he hold his cup,
look how he sit, this shit crazy, sir.
The real Barker.
It's duality.
Thank you, shout out to that.
Thank you.
Cold switcher, thank you. Cold switcher? I thought cold switcher was like an insult, man. No, it Shout out to that one. Thank you. Cold switching. Thank you.
You gonna cold switch it?
I thought cold switching was like an insult, man.
No, it's the other way around.
Cold switching.
Gotcha.
But yeah, the next time you have tickets
or an opportunity for Disney, let me know.
But what made it so good?
I had stuff for the adults as well as the kids.
Mm, so our team male don't play.
You said that.
The kids sat up front, enjoyed the show.
She had anything for them and then adults was having a alcohol't play. You said that. Your kid sat up front, enjoyed the show, she had anything for them, and then adults was having...
Alcohol in them.
A party back here.
Oh man, wow.
You had the mushrooms?
Somebody did tell me you was event planning them.
I wouldn't say that I was event planning.
She worked for what, that company?
Pear Space, I want to...
I've got that.
She got some fucking...
Why y'all are here?
We're not doing this. And not even dancing. I got a box come through.
Issue could come too.
That's hate.
First and last invite for you Mr. Button.
I didn't get invited.
I was just teasing Mark.
He did.
I did not.
Yes you did.
What invite I got?
I was literally sitting here last week and invited you.
Oh.
Wait, you was inviting niggas while I was here?
No, Friday.
Oh, I was about to say.
Yo, they off.
She invited me on air too.
Oh, you can come.
Everybody's off a little bit.
Oh, that was the, okay.
I'll stand down.
I'll promo it. This girl. Oh, you was okay. I'll stand down
This girl oh you had the promo
Everybody spirit world, Al Harrington. Essence.
I didn't do it.
Lifetime.
State farm.
Man.
All right, yo.
That was a good finagle.
Holy shit.
Bitch, you should have told us it was your fucking birthday.
I'm mad about that, I really feel away.
That's odd.
That's odd.
That's odd.
It is odd.
Only because people say,
hey man, what's going on with you?
What you got going on this week?
Nothing.
Nothing.
Working.
That would have been the perfect time to say,
I ain't doing too much, man.
It's my birthday on such and such a day.
What they got to do with the question?
Thank you, sir.
Well, give me the name of the self-righteous black person
from back in the day.
You know, you got Thurgood Marshall, W.E.B. Du Bois.
Give me one of them niggas.
Why?
Because he remind me of one of them niggas,
but I'm not hitting it with him.
Because he mentioned it.
Can you tell us about him?
Yeah, but he like on some stand-up shit.
Yeah, he like the dropout author or some shit.
Yeah.
He like the fuck.
At the end of the day, people love you,
and that is wrong though.
Like there is ethics in friendship.
That's wrong.
I'm gonna flip.
There is, bro.
Yo, my birthday's coming up.
Yeah, you off.
You don't have to say it.
You didn't want to be celebrated?
Yeah, niggas love you, bro.
I wanted to celebrate you.
Yeah.
Me too.
So since it was Thursday,
we would have done something on Friday.
Me too. Cupcakes. I like a good reason to, you know, done something on Friday. Me too.
Cupcakes.
I like a good reason to go out.
Candy.
Cupcakes for a cupcake.
Right.
Hey!
Muffin for a muffin.
You know that's funny.
I think this is different, bro.
It's cool though.
If you pull that shit next year for 50,
we gonna jump you.
Oh no, we're on his ass.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can't do that.
Oh, we all going. We all going to Portugal.
We out, group trip, load up the chat.
Portugal it is.
Well, happy belated birthday, bro.
Thank you, bro.
Happy belated.
50 years old, man.
Cool.
49 of me.
Which, they gonna round up. They gonna round up.
It's your 50th year or something. Yes. 50th year. Gotcha. Yeah, it sound different now.
It sound a little different than 49.
And by the grace of God, I hope to get there.
Well, you look good for 49, 50ish.
You do.
You're the winner.
Complementing you, my nigga, there.
49, 50ish, thank you, brother.
I appreciate it, I appreciate it.
You right there. You right there, you might as well just say 50ish. You can still-ish, thank you brother, I appreciate it. I appreciate it, I want to smoke.
You right there, you right there, you might as well just say 50.
You can still get a you look good for your age.
Oh shit, I didn't even know.
That's how issues to shake the room back in the day.
I used to love being there for that moment.
Guess how old I am.
Yo, who says that?
You nigga, I was right there.
Yeah, you know.
Back in your ass too.
Yes. A little power. It's just, yo the whole room, you used to steal the bitches with that one.
You the best, yo.
I'm 43.
Yo, you the best.
Daddy!
Yo, it's that damn life's good shit on the line. You'll never guess, come said that like, you know, like,
you'll never get some, come on, no you're not.
You can't.
You can't tap on my eyes.
You can't, you can't tap on my eyes.
You can't, you can't, yo.
You can't, nah, watch, all right, go.
You're the best.
You can't, nah, go.
Go, go.
Go.
Uh-uh.
No, you can't.
This thing is a fool, yo.
Okay.
That's potter in the world, that's you, though.
No, stop. No, that's a little fool.
I used to think of Tidy Dutch sometimes, nigga.
I used to snitch early, he over the house.
How many times you think this little trick is gonna fly in?
Yo, he mad old.
Oh, lord. Oh my lord. Oh my god.
Alright.
Oh shit.
Give us some old school shit.
Oh.
Happy belated birthday.
Happy belated birthday.
Happy belated birthday.
Happy belated birthday.
Happy belated birthday. Happy belated birthday. Ooh.
Happy belated birthday to my man. What y'all thought?
Hey.
I got your love.
49 and up.
49 and up to the dance floor.
No further down.
Drinks a little cheaper for y'all today.
Don't you know it, baby, it's time for love.
You'll never need another.
49 and up, 49 and up.
You get discounts at the movies?
Yeah, yeah.
That's your band from next to the men's and women's.
Just like that.
Boy, it's two chunters now. The one with the racks and the handles.
By the toilet.
The shit was on.
Alright, wherever you might be listening from man. But I love you so
Alright, wherever you might be listening from it
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I got a baby later
And this up here to you
They got me a date for you
I want you to love me
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What I'm gonna do is I know it's your only move
When it shows and feels
South Jersey what up Philly what up
I never figured you for the quiet type
Tell away at P-Moy and hold DMV
I always thought you was around my mom
Stirring up dreams and gonna feel you She ain't got no trauma What's the matter huh I wear a P-Mod, hold DMV I always thought you was a raw rap mama
Stirring up crazy, gonna feel the shit out of you
What's the matter, huh?
Cat got your tongue, boss of Mac got you strung
Or maybe I ain't the one
I wanna know, cause if I don't, it's gonna haunt me
Your word up, you got me thinking you want me
Philly's finest, and you're your bag, brother. You know what I mean? When it's cold out, shout out to everybody snuggling out there.
Everybody playing foot cheese out there.
All the happy couples out there, all the miserable ones too.
Who's that, Philly's finest?
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The sample I'm talking about
Shout out to all the parents out there
All the Milton gifts out there
Baby I toss and turn at night Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Baby, I toss and turn at night My whole mouth below baby
We're good to find the covers on the floor
Alright, how's everybody doing, man?
How y'all doing?
Y'all good? Y'all good? Y'all good?
We're good, we're good, we're good
Alright, y'all looking good, you're smelling good
Sometimes I don't know what I'm living for
See, I don't know what I'm living for See I don't know what it's all about but better life
Is better things
And now you can change your mind
But no one will keep you warm at night
He'll give you more
But who could have a better time?
No, no, no, no
A better time
A better, better
N***a shit like so yo
I wasn't gonna do it. I was gonna start start the pop, but I ain't wanna disrespect Mark. Thank you.
This song is another one of those that triggered me and bring back fucking bad memories. I'm good, you flitting that top like baby wife was Got tight, used to hooky and chill So I type, plus she cook up a mill
Had to hook up for real
That's when girl records was popping, these niggas don't even make girl records no more
It's all good, cause I sex be my Tylenol
Best baby dollar for them
Ship the rest to each other's bras
Give me the sex then I'm tired of y'all
So find the next step of life for y'all
Yo, this nigga getting on so much cap in this shit
Yo, all these girls do is give me the sex and then I be sick of them, babe.
Like, that ain't not fuck up that girl Alright, let my man grab me this shit off real quick and then we'll be back for the real thing
My baby girl
Here we go
Don't stop kissing me
You love me
She's my heart's been racing
Don't stop loving me
I won't give you up for nothing
Cause there's no better
I love you
I see you going crazy
You got me thinking about you
Baby, so we got to go
My baby, there's no better I ain't see none of these niggas on the dance floor.
I ain't gonna hold you.
I mean, it's some talk we can't have, cuz when the DJ throw the shit on, you niggas
didn't rush to the dance floor man
Hit your bop
It's cool man
Enough of that
I did it enough for everybody man
Shout out to Speed
Speed birth to bop
Oh my god
You icy fish. You're an icy fish. You're an icy fish.
You're an icy fish.
It's alright, man.
Nah, you stayed a little stepping,
you twar some shit.
I ain't see you on the dance floor and cheated or
none of that.
Pink elephant, maybe you look like
a pink elephant kind of guy.
Nah. We was in pink elephant, shut up,
it's not frontin'. Bottle started takin' over by that time.
You were still there.
I know, but niggas wasn't two-steppin'.
Bottles made niggas forget the two-step.
Yo, you gonna bring money into it somehow.
I'm lyin'?
Nope.
No, you're not really lyin'.
Bottles made niggas forget the two-step.
Bottles and sections.
Yeah, the bottles was the section.
Yeah, facts.
You know what I mean, girls ain't like them niggas in the middle of the dance was sweaty no more
some of your liquor why you couldn't hit the bop in your section I did it
there's always so much Bob you gotta be cool with them you gotta be cool on the
couch
move your shoulders minimum movement minimum bop, no sweat, none of that.
Yeah, you can't go crazy in the section.
There you go.
You gonna look nuts.
Well, where's the section at?
It didn't matter.
It ain't matter.
Cheetahs, they got a section.
I wasn't in no section back then.
I mean, I was walking around.
I mean, I was in the back.
Playing the bar.
I mean. Upstairs somewhere.
He was in the section is what he's trying to say,
but not say it.
I didn't see him.
Are you trying to stutter?
I know.
He said you was in Jem Pop.
He was in Jem Pop.
I was looking around though.
You were dusty.
Oh shit.
What he was trying to say.
Double-hut-toe.
All right, a little up.
Should I get it off her?
She like, yo, that's what he was saying.
Right.
That's what he was saying.
Lil' Hunter said he flat-ala bottles of Grey Goose back there.
I was in chaos, too.
Really, on the top level?
Spun it on you again.
He like, oh, shit, it was a top level?
No, it was definitely a top level.
Lil' Own.
Sorry.
You was in Own.
I was in all of them. You was. I remember you in the Ome. I was in all of them.
You was.
I remember you in the 12.
I was in absolutely all of them.
You was in Griffin's.
His Deployment.
Yo, come on.
A-Flip.
Tell me.
Yeah, that's a little late.
That's later.
That's a decade or two later.
One-O, you know, that's, okay.
Sorry, I'm just trying to keep up with you old niggas.
I mean, Lotus and all of that, man.
Lil' Lightweight Lil' Ome. All right, Lotus and all of that, man. Little light weight.
All right, we reminiscing too much.
What episode is this?
793.
Butter, you always have butter.
Shut the fuck up, you're here.
And you're there too.
Anybody want to get in that butter?
Anybody want to get in that butter, though?
Thanks.
Y'all are hoes.
Where y'all?
Y'all just been outside tenured.
You too.
I was outside learning and working.
Learning.
And working.
It was a learning on a job situation.
You got you.
What episode is this?
793.
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Tanner, I'm so sorry.
The longest, what happened?
The line's lost. Oh, yeah.
It's like God, man. Yeah, they got their asses handed to them. Did they get their asses handed to them?
It was a good game. It was a good game. Yeah, that first half was amazing, but you could feel the
pull away. Yeah. Dog, I looked up and... They still had a chance until... Nah, it was just the turnovers.
I looked up and said, you let them score 21 points in the first quarter, it's not championship
football.
I knew they was determined because them niggas was going forward on fourth down, it was like
nothing.
They was like, yo, we not leaving nothing on the board.
That's kind of the new thing.
Yeah, it is.
I'm just, they are ahead of that.
We're not starting with them.
Nah, nah.
We're not starting with them.
We're not starting with them. Right no. We're not starting with it.
Right this second, but Tanner, our heart goes out to you
and all Alliance fans out there.
All right, what's up?
Come on, let's get right to it.
I feel like that was the longest intro in the world.
All right, great.
We've had longer.
Great, great, great, great.
All right, come on.
We got a new president.
Come on.
Look, Mark came in hot, wrote it on the board big.
That's all he wrote too. Yeah, that's all he wrote. Inauguration, Nelly Ross Snoop. Mark came in hot, wrote it on the board big.
That's all he wrote too.
Yeah, that's all he wrote.
Inauguration, Nelly Ross Snoop.
Look.
That's two more than 90% of this room, for the record.
Oh no, I'm just talking about the vigor in which you.
Yes.
I write this shit that I think we might not,
you know what I mean, focus on today.
I want to make sure we focused on it
because we got a new president. It's been a crazy week. It's been a crazy week. I was frustrated with the weekend, but yesterday Donald Trump became president again
He was he was 45 now. He's 47
And he also had a real big day
He signed a bunch of stuff signing a bunch of executive orders change the laws and change some laws did some new shit
It was just a wild day and I think Katz is getting ready
for the next four years, that's it.
Y'all excited?
Yeah.
It's business as usual.
I know the rich people excited.
I feel like you're holding back on us.
Yeah, like come on.
I'm trying not to say too much.
I got thoughts but you had all I was saying, man.
Lead the way.
No, no, but we're not thought leaders.
This your fed.
We don't have any thoughts about it.
Did you watch the entire thing?
Yeah, I watched it.
He was there.
Y'all watch this shit?
Yes, they watch it.
Yeah, I really watched it.
No, I couldn't.
I hate Trump, but here's ratings.
No, I didn't watch it.
I read the transcripts, I was tied up,
but I thought it was exactly what you think it would be.
Donald Trump came into office doing exactly what he said he was going to do, and he signed
executive orders to change laws or to change the reality on the ground, just like he said
he was.
So he comes out swinging in his speech, you had Elon Musk doing what looked like a Hitler
salute to me, but you know.
No, that's what it was.
It looked like to me.
He said he was throwing, I'm not going to do it.
No, fuck that.
He said he was throwing his heart out to people, but it was not. The worst way possible, if that's what it was. This is what it looked like to me. He said he was throwing, I'm not gonna do it. No, fuck that. He said he was throwing his heart out to people,
but that was not mine.
In the worst way possible, if that's what he was doing.
That was crazy.
He was giving Nazi for sure.
He grunted when he did it.
He did, he made a noise, money.
Yeah, he made a noise.
I mean this shit.
Yeah, his face changed, he was dead ass.
I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt at first.
Why?
Because I was like, who would be dumb enough
to do a Nazi salute on day one?
Well, hold on a second, he's dumb enough.
A billion dollars.
The richest man in the country. Yeah, exactly. Then I watched him get done. No, in the world. Yeah, he could do whatever the fuck he wanted. Why because I was like who'd be dumb enough to do a Nazi salute on day one?
Yeah, he could do whatever fucking one and Trump has basically made him
More important than the vice president and and and that's really that's really a shame But he signed laws to get us out of the climate deal meaning we're not gonna be dealing with you know
Environmental justice anymore. He took us out of the world health organization, which takes us in a lot of weird ways
He declared, you know genders male and male and woman, male, female, there's only two, or sexes.
He said that there, he got rid of, he made DEI basically illegal. He put
the death penalty back on the table
for federal crimes. I mean, he just did a lot of the stuff that he's been talking about.
He called for an emergency at the border, meaning you can get arrested again. He got rid of,
what you call it a catch and release.
So now, uh, people who come across the border can be held.
They can be detained.
It can be separated from their families.
I mean, he did like 50 things.
Uh, he also pardoned everybody from January six, all the rioters, everybody,
every single one of them, every single one of them.
And so, and Joe Biden stepped in and was trying to preemptively do some stuff.
So like he, he pardoned Fauci. And Fauci wasn't even charged with nothing.
Well he was, yeah, preemptive. His whole family.
They don't go after them.
Pardon his whole family.
His whole family, the January 6th commission. So it's just been a lot of moves in the last
24 hours. And I want people who said, look, I don't want Kamala fine. I'm past that, right?
Whatever you think, whatever you do, you do. But the pressure has to still be applied.
Even if you think Trump was better than Kamala,
you still gotta apply pressure to Trump.
Because if you don't watch him,
the next four years gonna be tough.
If you don't watch any politician,
if you don't watch any president, you're gonna have problems.
We gotta pay attention to what's going on.
So everybody don't wait to the next presidential election.
Pay attention now.
Pay attention to everything that's happening
because there's a lot at stake.
Well, he said this is the last one.
There'll be no more elections.
That's true. He's the last one, there'll be no more. That's true.
He's the last one.
Yo, it's wild.
It's wild.
How are you guys feeling?
Are y'all sad now?
Why y'all all quiet and muting your face?
I think all them niggas is crooks.
And I think that, again, I've said up here a million times,
we can't really count on any politicians to save us.
You gotta save yourself,
you gotta do us best for you and your family.
Taking the information, I think now more than ever,
we need to start reading and taking heed
to some of the laws that are being passed
and how they affect us and how we can move around.
But they all ancient.
Like I don't like the pardons that Biden did.
I don't like the pardons that Trump did. I don't like the pardons that Trump did.
I think it's just, again,
two different wings on the same bird.
They might have different lobbyists and different agendas,
but I think they all for sale.
Like California's on fire right now.
You got a president that's saying drill, baby, drill.
Like there's no relationship between fossil fuels
and what's happening.
And also removing us from
the climate deal that's an acknowledging not acknowledging that climate change is
Directly indirectly related to what's happening in California, but he hates California anyways
He's like y'all didn't vote for me. Fuck you burn to the ground exactly
There's it's there's the he's expressed conditional relief being sent to them.
And I don't know what the condition is,
but the fact that there's a condition is-
He's petty.
Petty is important at this point.
He might be the pettiest president we've ever,
he might be the pettiest person
we've ever seen in public office.
This crazy.
Bad time for it, but I've been laughing at
Gulf of America still for three days.
No, that shit's funny.
That shit's funny.
I fuck with it.
It may be a bad time to say it, but.
God's fucking cool.
Then he put in a different name, an official name.
I forgot the name of it, I find it,
but it ain't Gulf of America, it's some other shit
he changed it to, but that shit is funny.
I think that giving somebody like him power
is scary, and then your man, Elon,
who seemingly don't give a fuck
and not feel like I could do and say
whatever I wanna do and say,
because I'm rich, it's just a compounded thing.
And racist.
Yeah, they don't even pretend not to be.
Yeah, nowadays the rich people just be like, so?
Right.
What you gonna do, so?
Right.
I don't give a fuck, so?
I watched it.
What should we do as black people?
I feel like black people's protest really was to not tune in because it was held on MLK day. Yeah, which was
Right, which sucks
That's sort of pastor from Detroit. Lorenzo Sewell. That handkerchief head, man. Yeah, man
You know kind of I was laughing at him. Me too.
He was quoting some of Dr. King's.
He gave the whole speech!
Yeah, and then he was doing a lot of theatrics
and Trump was right there smiling and laughing.
Like just laughing at him, that's how I felt.
I mean, it's just, ugh.
Did you read the faces of everybody behind him?
Say it again?
Did you read the faces of all the people behind him? I did, I did. I did read the faces of everybody behind him? Say it again? Did you read the faces of all the people behind him?
I did, I did.
I did read the faces of everybody behind him.
Know what I'm saying?
Like, that's a telltale.
Yeah, Trump was smiling, Elon was just shucking and jiving.
Yeah, and hand-bombing it.
I mean, it's just, the next four years is about to be crazy
and I feel like I agree with you-ish.
You don't get your shit in order, man.
You in for a long ride and a long day. I just talked about it. I wonder how, I do have a question with you ish. You don't get your shit in order, man. You in for a long ride and a long day.
I just tell everybody.
I wonder how, I do have a question for you, Mark.
The executive order that he signed pertains to the genders.
How does that translate to the society?
What happens now?
Basically rolled back all LGBTQ rights.
At the federal level, yeah.
Because somebody's gender nonconforming
or someone is trans, they can say that
if your biology determines your gender,
if your sex determines your gender,
then it makes it harder to make certain lawsuits,
it makes it hard to have certain policies.
They're going to lose that fight long-term.
There's a couple of fights,
there's a couple of things Trump did
that aren't gonna work,
but sometimes Trump does stuff not because it's gonna work,
but because it makes his base excited.
True, got it. So if you, he could sign a bill tomorrow like slavery's back in effect. It ain't gonna work, but sometimes Trump does stuff not because it's going to work, but because it makes his base excited. True.
Got it.
So if you, he could sign a bill tomorrow like slavery is back in effect.
It ain't going to work, but a whole bunch of people going to be hype.
And for him, that's worth it.
Got you.
Yeah, so.
Like this shit with the 14th amendment, I don't think it's going to stick, but.
Exactly.
Birthright citizenship.
Birthright citizenship shit.
Which basically states that the mother and father could be illegals, but if your kids
are born here,
then they are American citizens.
He denounced that shit and signed a bill banning it
but I don't think it'll have a stick but he tried it.
Because they're gonna fight,
a lot of your workers are gonna fight that.
Oh.
Oh shit.
Sayonara, buddy.
Holy shit.
Because if you didn't do the fly, just that.
Because he did say mass deportation in, it's us.
Jersey, what's your block?
I don't have a block.
Mass deportation in Scotland.
Look at that ass.
It said Houston, fucking Chicago, Ishhood.
Signior Ishhood.
It said Ishhood.
No, the crazy shit is that he picked certain countries.
Right.
Like that's the funny shit, and that's the racial piece.
So fuck the Russians that come here illegally, fuck the Serbians, fuck the Albanians, fuck
all of the Eastern European countries that come here and do mad crime and mad criminal
shit you only focused on the blacks and the South Americans.
And that'd be the gangster shit.
When people be talking about immigration, I'd be like, yo, suck my dick.
Cause y'all not, y'all only talking about
brown people and black people.
Y'all not talking about immigration.
He did the same thing to refugees.
I mean, he's not worried about refugees from Norway.
Yeah, you don't care about the white refugees.
He's talking about Arabs.
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah.
So.
He's moving.
So, based on that, how does somebody like Snoop,
and I'm pulling out Snoop in particular.
Because of the video that he made, what?
Four years ago. Four years.
Yeah.
Like I don't expect that much from Rick Ross,
no disrespect, but like he says, I'm about this bread.
You know what I mean?
I'm not even that mad at Nelly
because after watching Nelly talk about it,
it seemed like Nelly believes in the presidency and actually supported Trump.
So it's not that much of a contradiction.
But when I see Snoop stand up and say, fuck Trump, and I hear him stand up and say, anybody
that performs at the inauguration is a coon.
Sambo.
Yeah, a Sambo.
And then I see him performing at the inauguration.
But that wasn't the inauguration.
Well, it was the at the inauguration. But that wasn't the inauguration. It wasn't the inauguration.
Well, it was the party the day before.
It was a crypto.
It was a few days before.
Thing, a crypto event a few days before.
And Snoop is heavy into the crypto world.
So that did align with his brand one.
Two, and I said this when we saw Chef G, Sleepy Hollow,
a lot of these dudes coming out for Trump, Kodak Black, who had legal issues
that he kind of worked away with.
We did see Snoop a couple years ago
thanking Trump for partnering Harry O,
who was the original founder of Defro Records,
which Snoop now owns.
It could be, dog, once you get up to that level,
a lot of that shit is transactional business.
So you did me a favor over here,
now when y'all call back and say,
yo, remember we did this for you,
we need you to do this,
a lot of niggas are gonna do that.
I think it's a little deeper than that.
I think that in my observation,
not my opinion, but in my observation,
motherfuckers was displeased with how Biden
ran the last four years.
And I think a lot of black men in particular
made the transition from fuck Trump to I'm riding with him.
I know niggas that did it.
Like I've had arguments and conversations
with a bunch of people that was off Trump.
Biden gave us four years of shit that people
couldn't necessarily see tangible benefits
of anything that the administration did.
And so they on a Trump train.
Let me ask you a question.
I posed this question on Twitter.
And I'm gonna ask it here to y'all.
If you knew that popping out for Trump
could get you or somebody close to you released,
pardoned, would you do it?
It depends for me.
What does it depend on?
Am I fly with the nigga in jail?
Yeah.
Yes, yes.
Like it's your bestie.
Or one of your people's.
But did he do it?
Don't matter.
No, it doesn't matter.
How much time do you got left?
It doesn't matter.
It's a fair answer.
He's in it for life.
He got kids.
Yes.
Do I like those kids?
No, no.
I'm just kidding.
It depend, man.
I'm talking shit, but I don't know.
My answer to that is I don't know.
And I think that's most people's real answer
is I don't know, but I watch a lot of people,
so as you see somebody stand up there,
it's like, how dare you, how dare you, how dare you,
not really knowing why they did it.
There's a lot of people that jumped out for Trump.
I named a couple who we know had Wayne.
When Wayne stood next to Trump,
everybody was like how dare you, how dare you,
even though Wayne does appear to be tone deaf
at times in certain situations,
but Wayne was facing 10 years,
got that pardon and didn't have to go to prison.
If I'm looking at 10 years,
if a lot of people are looking at 10 years
and he say, yo, come take this picture,
come stand next to me, you don't do them 10 years,
a lot of people is gonna do that.
That's a fact.
Nigga, I'm doing it.
I'm telling you right now, if I'm looking at,
fuck 10 years, if I'm looking at 10 months.
I'm looking at 10 minutes.
Right?
I would be on that stage.
I'm in there, yeah.
But that's different.
This is loaded a little bit. This is loaded a little bit because I don't think
all you niggas out there, the jailheads and the people
with ties to the jailheads should just be predominantly
speaking for how black people writes,
how black people supposed to feel about this.
We could recognize that.
They're not.
They're so preservational.
We could recognize that, oh, y'all doing
some transactional shit and judge you based on that. Because I was we could recognize that, oh, you're doing some transactional shit
and judge you based on that.
Because I was about to say that that sets us back eons.
And I'm shocked that you said that because you speak for progression.
So if everybody got a price and all we got to do is either give you some money or show
you a thing where you gonna benefit
and we got you in pocket, nothing changes.
That's a no.
Let me just add on to that.
Nothing changes.
And that was my problem way back
when Homeboy was talking about,
yeah, I went to jail and my mugshot t-shirt
is what is relating to and raising my vote amongst blacks.
It's like, okay, maybe,
but we have a problem
with you viewing, well, we already think you a bigot
and a racist and all that shit.
And now you keep correlating these jail
and low life, three fifths of a man type views to all.
And all ain't rocking with that.
But no, but then when you hear people up here
like a platform like us, no disrespecting nobody,
but when you hear all of us
that are in a decent position, all of us are educated people
and we say, yo, I would've did the same shit.
It lends credence to everything that he's saying.
Like all I gotta do is I don't need to say it.
Everybody has a number and can be boxed.
Not just that, but a lot of people.
So would the principal thing for me
be to sit in prison for 10 years?
No, what I'm saying, I'm not.
And people generally feel that way, yes.
I'm not dissing.
A lot of people will talk,
but being put in that position,
you act totally differently with a lot of shit.
We had a snitch and talk all the time.
Niggas will say what they won't do, won't do, won't do,
and there's a good, not saying y'all would.
And that shit just be podcast talk.
Listen, I don't want us to speak from this type
of like New York privilege.
I see what a $9 congestive pricing did tag did to the community.
I was in the city.
So if there's people that are like, you know what?
Fuck Trump, fuck that administration,
Elon Musk and all of that.
However, I'm a buckle up, get low and try to get
as much coin as I can in the next four years.
Like there's people that don't have a political horse
in the race that ain't really thinking as deeply about this
that's just like, all right, I see what,
shit, you see anything that could spike is spiking.
Like, damn, you see that Trump coin shitty?
The Trump coin, the other coin, the Hawk 2 a coin.
That's a joke, that's a joke.
That little bitch still on the run. She ain't Hawk 2 a coin, that's a joke. That little bitch still on the run.
She ain't Hawk 2'd since.
She's on the air.
She's on the air.
But I'm just saying, there's some people that's like,
all right, I'm gonna try to get all the money I can,
but I'm just gonna regulate what's going on.
My thing is this, if we really, if we really.
Nelly could have went and did another show, though.
If we really say we want change, right, as a people,
we really, really want change, then if we a people, we really, really want change.
Then if we really want change,
we gotta stop being for sale.
Like we talk about the colonization of Africa.
We talking about all the shit,
but the second that somebody gives us something
that's beneficial or something that we bite,
we take it and we run.
So do we really want change?
Yeah, but I think there's a difference between money
and trying to avoid prison.
But for me, the issue is-
Transaction.
Yeah, but I'm not taking issue
with transactional behavior in general.
It's like, what's the transaction?
So when it comes to, for example, Wayne,
I'm not mad that Wayne ducked 10 years to-
Wayne stood on that Trump side pre-tent going to jail.
But let's say he didn't. Let's say he decided on that day that I don't want to do 10 years,
so I'm going to stay here looking like a hostage with my thumb up standing next to Trump like he
did, right? I'm cool with that. But the difference is we are able to talk about the fact of why
Wayne did it. I don't have an issue with Snoop saying, look, he got Harry over. I don't think that's a good enough reason.
But if I did, then he owes it to us to tell us that's what he did.
It's very clear.
No one doubts why Wayne did it.
So my issue is, Nelly changed his mind.
Or I'm sorry, Nelly has an opinion about Trump.
I saw the whole Nelly interview.
Shout out to Willie D.
Willie D.
Yeah, Willie D. I love his shit.
That's my man.
And he said it very clearly.
He's like, fuck Biden.
I don't have an issue with Trump.
I support Trump, basically.
And I respect the presidency.
I respect his office.
So if you feel like that, I disagree with him, but it's not unprincipled for him to perform
at the inauguration.
My only issue is don't tell everybody it's fucked up to do X, and then you do X, and
then you just pretend it didn't happen
You got it
You got you got some explaining to do because we follow you just like if tomorrow I stood up for Trump
And I said we got my cousin out of prison was doing like I'm gonna tell you that's why
That's what I'm saying. Just tell me why otherwise it looks like you sold out
You know me as opposed to you made a strategic decision because ultimately
Lil Wayne or Kodak black or whoever shouldn't be swaying elections,
who they vote for shouldn't matter for us anyway.
One of some of these performance agreements
come with a little paperwork that you gotta sign.
Yeah, can't talk.
That's interesting.
Not just that, why does Snoop owe an explanation?
Well he just said.
Because he told us not to.
If he hadn't said shit, then he don't owe me nothing.
But you can't stand on a public platform and say,
I don't wanna see none of y'all niggas at inauguration.
I don't wanna see none of y'all,
yes, master, you a coon if you support him,
and then the next week, do it.
And then you do it.
Can't do it the next week.
You did it four years later.
Four years later.
But there was no explanation.
Then tell me that.
I think he got to.
But I think that's the problem though, Mark.
I think the problem is that people are looking to figures
for the answer or dissuade them.
You have to think for yourself.
I don't think that, I think that is,
if he made that decision, you can change your mind.
Things happen in real time that makes you change your mind.
Then tell me that.
Or don't tell me shit from the beginning.
That's what I'm saying.
I think we have too much expectations
of celebrities and public figures.
There's too much expectations.
Like today, we could come up here,
it's seven, eight people up here,
and we could say, yo, we feel X.
And in four years, we could say, we feel Y.
So we felt strongly in 2025 about something.
And then in 2029, we could feel a totally different way.
But do you see the difference?
In your example, first I said this, and then four years later I said that.
My issue would be if you said this
and then four years later I found out
that you did that without saying anything.
Once you start talking and you have a public,
I'm saying you owe it to the people who follow you
to be responsible and tell them something different.
Don't let me sit up here and say,
fuck Donald Trump, fuck Donald Trump,
every week on the Joe Button podcast
and then they check my voting records in four years
and they find out I voted for him.
I owe y'all something.
Yeah, but that was happening.
And it's fucked up.
Yo, a whole lot of happening.
Hey yo, listen, I'm gonna give you an example with me.
Like, I know I make a lot of the migrant jokes up here
and stuff like that, but initially,
some of my family from Haiti, you know, extended family,
benefited off of that, right?
And then now, when everything is plastered on the television,
it sways you.
Oh, that happened?
Oh, they setting people on fire?
Oh, they doing this?
Are you going into the city and there's just a lot of shit
that can change your mind in real time.
So then when Trump comes out, out of respect for my mom,
I don't really speak about politics.
But when Trump comes out and say,
yo, things can go back to how they were when I get back,
you know, when I get in the office.
It can sway, okay, it can sway your opinion in real time.
I think it's possible, and I don't know shit about shit,
I think it's possible that Snoop may be in rooms today
that weren't accessible to him four years ago.
I think with the taxes going up and up and up,
I think niggas is out here.
Again, getting to whatever bag they can.
Snoop plays political for the most part,
but you see him on ponies at the ship.
You see him at F1.
You see Snoop is the biggest rapper.
Snoop today?
The Shaquille O'Neal of rap.
So that crypto ball, you know what crypto is doing,
you know they paying 100X what you would typically get.
I'm just saying you asking a lot of people.
And not just that.
Just send it on your Instagram, just go to Instagram,
you know what, I'm here because of blah, blah, blah, blah.
No.
I don't, I don't.
Now you're cutting off a good portion.
Yo, Snoopops fan base today
Mm-hmm, it might be more than than us today. So then what so then what so then what is it? What's the harm in saying? Yo, I'm out here to pick the ball cuz I support crypto. I'm non-political. I'm just here support
What's the harm in not saying it?
Opinions is gonna do the altar where I'm at or what I'm doing
Oh, I'm talking to do because you because you jumped out the window already. You are- Four years ago.
Yes.
It changed, my nigga.
People follow you, right?
So if it changed, tell me or don't say shit from the beginning.
You said people follow you,
and I got a lot of new people that follow me
maybe from the other side.
I think he deserves the right to do whatever he want,
and I think people reserve the right to view him
a certain way afterward if that's what they want to do.
It don't always need to be a conversation sometimes people tell you things through the actions. Mm-hmm
His actions look like he'd do anything for a bag
That's how people are reading and he just might and he might
Yeah, let me tell you something in the next four years
Yeah, you look we're gonna be calling a lot more people sellouts
Mm-hmm. This is the tip of the iceberg.
Y'all wanna talk about Snoop Nelly and fucking Soulja Boy.
This is gonna be a repeated continuous thing
where people are making decisions
that is gonna look a little way with the optic,
but they got a bag that's once in a lifetime
and it'll never happen like this again.
Listen man, people doing what they gotta do for them.
I mean, yes, we reserve the right to say something about it,
judge them if you want, but at the end of the day,
they making that decision, like you said, yo,
I might not never see this bag again.
I'ma take it.
Let me ask you a question.
Some people are gonna take that bag.
Joe, let me ask you a question.
You talk about being independent,
having your own business, et cetera.
If tomorrow you decided to sign a big contract
with Spotify, or tomorrow you decided to sign
a big deal with Def Jam.
Everybody who watches you is gonna be like,
what the fuck is he doing?
You wouldn't feel an obligation to tell the audience
why you made that choice?
I'm not talking about the choice, I'm talking about.
I think he would, I think he would.
I wanna answer that honestly.
I don't think he would at all.
I do.
I'm on both sides of that.
I'm on, I don't feel like I have to divulge
my business dealings with my audience.
Or your reasoning.
And two, I think naturally who I am,
that would come out of me, Paul.
Gotcha.
That's his makeup, that's the makeup of how he does things.
I wouldn't say to myself, hey, I have to do this
because my fans are old, yada yada yada.
I would just do that instinctually
because that's kind of what I do.
And you built your brand on somewhat transparent.
Transparency.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Yo, listen, it's a really slippery slope.
Like one of my dudes from Baltimore,
I kinda met him through the pod.
He runs a non-profit in Baltimore.
Real positive black dude, dope.
He hit me and he said, yo, I'm having mixed feelings.
He said, yo, he bought some of the Trump coin.
He said he was in class on Saturday.
And one of the dudes in his class started crying.
And he said, he looking at the nigga like he crazy,
like yo you all right?
Said the dude showed him his phone,
he was up $307,000.
Right?
And one day he said yo,
that's when the shit was at $7.
He said, ish I took my last 23 grand and I bought that shit.
He said yo by the night he was up 80 grand in profit.
He said yo he's having mixed feelings
because it's called Trump coin.
I said, nigga, are you fucking stupid?
You better get that money.
So I don't give a fuck if Trump was the incentive
on getting the money,
long as you ain't giving it back to Trump type agendas,
if that's your stance, get that money.
That shit.
All right, that's it.
Hawk to a girl, give me a call.
Word, dead ass.
Call me up, Hawk to a.
Let's talk about things. Saturday night, that shit was in the 20s. Nigga, Sunday, that shit hat. Call me up, Hot Tua. Let's talk about things.
Saturday night, that shit was in the 20s.
Nigga, Sunday, that shit shot to $70.
Mark, you ain't get no Trump coin?
No. I ain't get none either.
But I would.
But y'all standing on principle,
and I get it?
It's not a principle.
No, hell no, I was trying to get it.
I just couldn't get this shit.
I just couldn't get access to that.
ICE called me Saturday night,
yo, you heard this shit?
Yo, I could get y'all to Trump Air Force Ones.
Nah, I'm serious.
I'm serious.
I'm up on a coin. Trump watch. By the way, why y'all to Trump Air Force once. Nah, I'm just kidding. I'm serious. I'm up on the coin.
Trump watch.
By the way, why y'all can't get it?
It was hard to get.
Because they not like that.
One, it was kind of hard to get.
And then two, it was unbeknownst to most people.
Ice couldn't get to the Uber spot.
He couldn't get to Trump, the Trump coin.
And it's no, the hookup on the Trump coin won't serve him to ICE.
ICE is the first person that told me about Trump coin.
Gee, he stay looking out for you. I didn't know nothing the ice. Ice is the first person that told me about Trump going. Gee, he stayed looking out for you.
I didn't know nothing about it.
After you left him like that.
Wow.
Can I add one more layer to this real quick?
Chrisette Michelle.
Did you make sure you got back to his car?
I'm sorry again.
No, go ahead.
No, go ahead.
I was gonna say Chrisette Michelle.
That's the only thing I hate about all of this.
Is that she got roasted four years ago.
She got kicked off her label.
Her career was demolished.
Her career is over. And because she performed at inauguration,. She got kicked off her label. Her career was demolished. Her career is over.
Yeah.
And because she performed at inauguration,
I mean she literally got dropped from her label.
People mock her, she can't get money.
And I don't think one thing is gonna happen
to Snoop, Ross, Nelly, or Soulja.
I'm not saying it should, I'm saying I wish
Chrisette Michelle would've gotten the same grace
as everybody else.
I think a lot has changed since that inauguration in this
Michelle doesn't have 30 years ahead. Yeah, I wasn't
Okay
You're gonna shit again that mumble issue what because I see I've seen the internet been saying that with the old percent
Michelle the same energy for you know the, that you had for Chrisette Michelle.
Chrisette Michelle, with all due respect, I think we were label mates at one point.
One of the most angelic voices out there.
This is not to speak to her talent.
Her career was over before she made that statement.
She was canceled way before that.
Her career was done before that statement, before that performance was done.
When career being over and canceled
are two different things, why do you say canceled before that?
I'm just saying the same thing.
He's saying what?
I'm saying the same thing.
Her career was canceled.
They canceled her and they just said her career was done.
Beyonce, she didn't know that shit.
I'm saying before that, before they called themselves
canceling her, she was already.
It was, for the most part, kaput.
But she could still make a living
You know what? I mean, she could be on the chitlin circus. She don't step on caput
So
Yeah, I'm sure there was some added added to that afterward, but I just don't think it's a fear comp to it
I think if any I think it is a fair
How we're talking about her
No, I think it is a fair cut. I'm talking about how we're talking about her.
It's not the impact.
If this was four years ago,
and Nelly Ross and Snoop did that inauguration,
I think they faced the same level of shit.
You think they got kicked off the label?
No, but Snoop owns the label.
But I think they would have gotten the same scrutiny.
I don't think Nelly's on the label.
Them niggas would have gotten mad scrutiny.
Today, people feel differently about
Donald Trump than they did four years ago.
That's what we're not acknowledging.
And I think them niggas still caught heat.
I think they caught some heat.
They did.
They caught a little heat.
They caught a little.
Four years ago, the niggas would have been in the oven.
Yeah.
I don't think so.
There's no such thing as an oven now when they put them five, four white people in the picture and it added up to a mega gazillion,
trillion dollars, there is no.
The relationships that y'all keep telling,
and not y'all, because I'm down with it,
but that we keep telling people to distance themselves from
are the ones that are going to continue to get these people
more paid than they've ever been.
So they're willing to stand on the front line
with however you poor people feel.
I just posted an article the other day,
I read some shit, they said the 40 richest white people
in America have more money, 400, pardon me,
400 richest white people in America have more wealth than every black person
in the entire country put together.
400 motherfuckers have more money than 41 million people.
That's crazy.
Like dog, what we talking about?
So our little we shall overcome,
that shit ain't going nowhere.
Careful.
They had like a 300 year head start.
No, the 500 year, really, if you want,
you better keep it a buck.
And everybody got their reparations except for black people.
And then they said, yo, the top 1,000.
It was given out land, there was a lot going on.
No, I'm not just a grouch.
They gave out little land, they gave land.
There was a lot going on as to why we are in the deficit.
Sure.
So, and then they said the top 1,000 white people
have more cumulative wealth than every Hispanic person
and black person put together in the entire country.
My nigga, it's a different game being played.
It's a totally different game being played.
So we could look at them niggas,
they looking at us like ants.
To be totally honest with you, now you walking on the street,
you step on an ant, we don't think nothing of it.
I don't do that.
I don't do that.
I don't do that.
I'm pro-life.
Me too.
Bugs and insects.
I put the mice outside if I catch one.
I don't kill them.
You're my son.
When did you start doing this?
You're lying.
I'm not lying.
You knew I was like that.
You heard my melody.
Read about my life in the papers.
Anyway, but yo, dog, they look at this just like that.
How we look at deer or some shit,
you know what I'm saying, niggas is just killing deer
like it's nothing?
That's how they look at this, like collateral damage.
Oh, 5,000 people?
Oh, okay.
Like it ain't about nothing.
If it's going to mean me getting some more spanky.
So again, I just want everybody wouldn't have made the bold choice that you made
with your last gig and how that everybody wouldn't have made that choice.
Is that only you and Amanda?
And I don't, I don't ever expect anybody to make the choice that I make.
All I tell people, again, if I was to stand up tomorrow and say the opposite of
what I said that day,
I think I owe some, I got some people to,
I got some explaining to do.
That's all, that's all, that's my only thing
is just be consistent.
You can either not say shit,
or you can say something and stand on it.
Y'all being too serious for me today.
Only you, only you and Amanda Seals,
and y'all just kept her to the side.
She might have said some shit I didn't know about.
That's my girl, she texted me last time
when we was talking bad about her up here. She's hitting the text. I didn't know about. That's my girl, she texted me last time we was talking about her up here.
She's hitting the text.
I'm going to fuck ice up.
Something's reading me.
Man, there's somebody I've known for so long I wouldn't think that.
Well, I might be lying.
She definitely texted me.
I don't want to quote the text, but I'll get another text.
Too late, you already are.
Fuck.
I love her, man.
I love her, man.
That's my sister.
Listen, Nelly told y'all, Bill Gates, Donald Trump let me in. Told y'all. That's my that's my sister. But there's an Ellie told y'all Bill Gates Donald Trump
Let me in he told you he went on clear. Oh one
And now y'all sitting here 24 years later
All them rappers Trump dick everybody why
Celebrity apprentice nigga, you was that's y'all letting... Facts. Why y'all gonna... Celebrity Apprentice, nigga. Yeah, he was.
That's y'all that be letting rappers dictate your fucking...
Yeah.
Whatever.
Yo, nigga, as you was watching Celebrity Apprentice.
Who?
You.
Nah, I watch every time.
I watch regular Apprentice.
He wanna go on one of them celebrity reality shows.
No, I don't.
Yes, you do.
I'm far from it.
It's Smallberry.
I'm talking, you be lit on that shit.
Lick his lips at those.
Hey, thank you, Sharon.
Thank you for having me.
Thank you for having me.
Thank you for having me.
Yo, look at the stupid face.
You were trying to compliment the women.
Giving them nicknames in real time.
You were a good talker.
Sharon B. Shasha.
You Shasha.
What did y'all think about the TikTok shit?
I think they're pulling a move.
The move was pulled already.
Yeah.
Yo, everything for the next four years
It was just advertised a move, for sure.
is a move.
Are we gonna stop and have the,
they pulling a move talk every time a move happen?
I made this analogy the other day.
This is like, this that bump shit Cory and his man did
when he was playing Spades in Costa Rica.
When you don't win, you can't change the deck.
True.
So now the cards is all stuck together,
but they keep going your way,
and the fucking losers just gotta sit there
and play with the nasty deck with no spades
coming your way for the next four hours.
That's what the next four years is gonna be.
Yeah. A whole lot of it four years is gonna be. Yeah.
A whole lot.
Stay low, mind your business.
Plan, get healthy, read, get educated, save stack,
love on your people, talk to your people,
communicate with your people.
Word, that's real, pretty much.
Yeah, get you, this is what Big Mama used to fucking write
some shit on the fridge that you had to read
each time you opened the fridge.
Yeah, nigga, go get healthy.
Go get right.
Watch the mediums of which you consume things.
I've been saying for a while,
some of that shit is there intentionally,
and that little Nazi shit just drove that point home for me.
It's like, oh exactly, bitch.
That's pretty slick move, shitting on media
and raising questions about everything we read.
Rightfully so, maybe, maybe not.
Only then to get the entire social media behind you
and it's even more fucking disinformation out there.
That's a fucking play, a long play.
The long play, these niggas control
your goods, services, your food, your water.
I mean, y'all talking about protesting.
Man, she's getting real.
Hey, better fast.
Better fast.
Voluntarily.
Yeah, Ramana. Niggas are how you fast. Voluntarily. Yeah, Ramana.
Ramana.
Niggas are how you fasted involuntarily.
You starving out this bitch.
I'm telling you dawg.
Yeah, it's going back to one meal every two and three days.
They about to start putting shit in the air.
Yeah, yeah.
About to start. They already was doing that.
No comment.
I mean, I don't want to get sued.
I'm just saying, whatever trick you could think of,
it's being played,, is already being played,
save your tweet.
Shit, bro.
They making money off that too?
Facts.
Yeah, you niggas is on ex-protesting.
Protesting.
Seriously.
Protesting, either.
I came in here and asked y'all a few months ago
what y'all think of these fucking Tesla truck
owners.
I've been egging them shits all week.
Don't come around me with one of them little Tesla lunch boxes, dog.
I'm letting you know I'm egging that shit.
And you better hope I don't got a wire hang on me.
But times have changed.
I don't.
What do you want to do with the wire hang? Breaking it or scratching it? Anything, I ain't breaking that shit.
They got cameras outside that shit, you know that.
I wouldn't give a fuck what's outside this,
they got masks.
I can see Joe right now, nigga.
I got masks.
There go Joe again.
There you go.
There you go.
Egg and cyber trucks is funny.
Yeah.
Egg and anything is funny.
And booing at places is funny too.
It is. It is. It Yeah, egg and anything is funny.
And booing at places is funny too.
Are you a boer?
Sometimes.
No, you're a boer.
Not Joe.
I don't think...
Joe respects the craft and art too much to boo someone.
Sometimes that's why you boo.
Really?
Yeah, because you respect the craft and art so much.
But you don't do it.
Like boo somebody where? You don't boo Joe, stop much. I love booing. But you don't do it.
Like boo somebody where?
Joe, you don't boo Joe, stop it.
I absolutely love to boo.
Show or something?
You boo niggas?
If it's called for.
Booing somebody at a show is crazy.
That's what I'm saying, you don't get it that tight.
Y'all wouldn't boo the show?
No.
No.
Hell no.
Maybe a comedian.
Did I pay?
So then yes.
I was thinking music when I said no,
but I'm thinking it through.
Maybe a comedian, maybe.
The Sixers? I never boo it through maybe a comedian the Sixers
Yeah, I never boo you know boo the opponents you ain't boo at all during the 10 and booed opponent No, not really. No, it's easy bullshit. The last one thing I've booted a game was Ben Simmons
So you're down with us. Why do you keep y'all do this word soup shit when y'all just agree with us?
You would boo somewhere. I'm only talking about music
I don't boo because because I'm about the craft and the art of it.
I couldn't boo somebody
because they didn't play well or sing well.
What if someone does some fuck shit?
If somebody disrespected the craft
of performing and showmanship, then I'm booing them.
Did some foul shit on stage.
Yo, and during the Jada and Beans beef,
if you was at a show in Jada,ada did this in Philly, would you boo?
Oh, that's good.
Uh oh, we got him.
Yeah, you got me, yeah.
We got him.
Yeah, you got me.
You would boo.
If you was waiting in an arena for three hours
before an act came out and they came out
and did two songs in bounce, you wouldn't boo?
Lauryn Hill did something to me like that, basically.
Oh, I knew that's what you did.
And I didn't boo, I wasn't happy, but I didn't boo. That was like, like, the other shit. I know she's the poster child for that, but rappers are good for that.
Yeah, her shit was egregious, but it was really bad.
Rappers are good for it.
At least there was space in there.
Y'all had elbow room to boo at that Lauren shit when y'all was waiting.
The rappers should be 400 cap.
Now you're sitting waiting in SOBs for two and a half hours.
And he right downstairs
He ain't even outside home on his way
Yeah, no, it get bad. I'm booing if I pay my dollar
I reserved the right to boo and if I'm bad and up there fucking up shit, then go ahead and boo
That's real or if you curse out the opening acts or
up shit they can go ahead and boo. That's real. Or if you curse out the opening acts or we've been in a couple of situations. This dis-taluing. Yeah I was wild. I was wild. A few cities I went up there and just said some shit I
shouldn't have said. Facts. Growth. Yeah but I also caught an active polyp in the
middle of 15,000 people in Virginia
in one of them Omni theaters,
like dead in the middle of a song, completely no voice.
I was still on the first verse.
How did the audience react?
Did they boo you?
No, they didn't boo me.
I think I was just in a state of shock
and not knowing what was going on.
But if they would have chose to boo me,
is what I'm saying, Then you'd understand. Get your shit off.
You can't lose your voice while I'm singing along to your song.
I'm not doing it in karaoke time.
That nigga is cruel, man.
If a nigga lost his voice, I ain't booing you.
I think I don't want to lose his voice.
Nigga, if I paid and got a fit and all of that shit and up in here
and now you up here for 10 seconds and you lost your...
First off, I don't believe you lost your voice.
That's one, I don't even believe that.
I think that's some rapper bullshit you pulling
to get up out of here and run off with the money.
I'm boom, and we might line you up.
Okay.
I ain't gonna hold you.
The last two weeks,
Burn A Boy just been walking off stage for whatever
and it's been the funniest thing in the world.
Now some of them have been fundraisers,
some of them have been hey I wasn't even paid. This is some volunteer shit
But I'm still in the spirit of getting a joke off
Somebody I guess and he had an incident with somebody ran on stage
He kicked so so a few weeks ago somebody ran on stage again the security got to him
They got him out of there and burning boy was like, you know what?
Now I'm out of here now
I'm out of here and that one was understandable the other day, he said, yo, these lights is too hot on me. That's the fifth time the lights have burned me.
And if it happens again, I'm leaving.
I think that that's hilarious.
I also think if they decide to boo his ass,
then they well within their right.
Because don't talk to me like that at the show.
Y'all are just a tough crowd.
I mean, I'm not a tough crowd.
I'm not a tough crowd. I'm not a tough crowd. I'm not a tough crowd. I'm not a tough crowd. I'm not that's hilarious. I also think if they decide to boo his ass,
then they well within their right.
Cause don't talk to me like that at the show.
Y'all just a tough crowd, man.
Y'all a tough crowd.
You're from Philadelphia.
We respect you.
Y'all boo Santa Claus.
Y'all still bringing that shit up?
That shit was like 40 years ago.
It happened.
Batteries at the fucking game.
They moved the timespan.
We threw one set of batteries,
and they were D batteries, But they were D's?
Yeah.
Those are heavy.
Mel, who just has a battery accessible to throw at a sporting event?
Would you just got dressed and put them in your pockets?
Honestly, there's a lot of blue collar workers in Philly that people have flashlights.
Yes.
I could see that.
It was for JD Drew because he got drafted and didn't play for us.
I actually thought we were wrong for that.
Throwing D batteries at somebody
because they didn't sign with your team
as a free agent is fun.
Did you hit him?
No.
No, thank God.
Because I could have killed him.
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I know there's a lot of people that was sick to their stomach this weekend
I know there's a lot of people that were sad, hurt, angry, and
disappointed this weekend as some of the results gangbusters for that Lions game.
Oh my god. Congratulations to the commanders. For sure. That was on the set. Jaden Daniels specifically.
Jaden Daniels went off. Terry, Terry, uh, McLaurin. Scary Terry. No, that's Jason Terry.
That's McLaurin. McLaurin. Yeah, he goes out. I'm picking him again. Scary Terry? No, that's Jason Terry? That's yeah. McClure, McClure. Yeah, he goes, I'm picking him again.
Actually, right now, give me McClure
for more than 70 receiving yards.
He might do that in a play.
Give me Jaden, I'm taking him for more than,
cause on the low, quiet as cap,
I think I'm going commanders.
I'm really definitely going.
I've been going commanders from the beginning of the season.
Commanders.
I rooted for them against the Bucks. I'm rooting for them, but I don't know I wasn't mad at them against the Lions. The affiliate team is stacked
They haven't looked the greatest to me
They look like they could be had in Kansas City looks like they could be had depending on what the refs had for breakfast that
Morning. Well, you know what they had for breakfast
Cheetos
And I think I've seen the Kelsey brothers on the Wheatie Box. For real?
Yeah.
You taking the commanders to go to the Super Bowl?
I am.
I know it don't sound sexy and it don't sound like something that Roger Goodell would.
It sounds like hate.
No, not for me.
Oh, not for me. It's not about the Eagles to me.
It's personal for me. Oh, not for me. It's not about the Eagles to me. It's personal for me.
Personal?
Oh, right.
Yeah, my cousin's an all-on coach.
So, yeah.
I'll give you that.
And give me St. Juan for more than 70 rush yards.
Yeah, in a quarter.
He seems to work.
And give me Josh Allen.
Does Josh Allen want to pass James Cook to football this
week?
Nah.
Give me Josh Allen for,
he should step up after that last week.
He only had like 160 yards, something.
Snowing on the ground like crazy.
Don't worry about it.
Gonna be cold and casey too?
Give me Josh Allen for more than 200 passing yards.
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With that said, I want to go back to that TikTok band.
I know we maybe started talking about that.
But I'm not shitting on nobody that was actually going through
like real emotional stress and pain
because a lot of people was going through it.
They was fucked up.
I think I was with him on here at the time
and he was pulling out the phone like,
oh my God, cap cut, not cap cut.
I was like, yo, you such a dweeb.
Not my cap cut.
But yeah, a lot of people were going through it
with the TikTok band.
It came back the next day.
So I don't really have much to say about that,
but what I do wanna say is,
it did give me a bright idea
and think that we should all kinda just lose WiFi
for a week mandatory every month.
That would be great. Just to see what.
Most people can't do it.
Most people can't do it.
Your phone is so connected to your day-to-day life
that most people can't do it.
Not only that, there's certain people
that's running their entire business off their phone.
All of that.
All of that.
Like this shit is different.
They got you.
Well then they could use business WiFi.
They could get some type of business pass to use it.
Nah, they could use the hardwire shit.
Same way over here.
He said WiFi, he didn't say ethernet.
He could still plug it.
Dialect shit.
Oh, plug it. Etherect shit. Oh plug it.
Ethernet cord.
I think everybody should get a little break.
A little go get yourself right.
Spend time with yourself, your thoughts.
I saw all four of them, five of them dudes standing behind Trump the other day and I
promise you that is never going to happen.
Bro the place is all lined out.
Like even the TikTok ban, the real ban is still in effect.
How you saw it? Like even at the TikTok ban, the real ban is still in effect. Mm-hmm.
How so?
Yeah.
You can't, like right now, if you go to the app store
and try to download TikTok, you can't.
Oh.
That was the, it was never the ban on the service.
That whole message that popped up on the screen
and them going dark for 12 hours or so,
I think that was literally a deal they worked out with Trump.
Oh, for sure, for sure.
You can tell.
His name worked off.
Yeah, this is just to make him look good.
But the real ban, it's just like some of these other apps
once they get banned out the store.
If you have it on your phone, you straight.
That's like the people that went and deleted the app
when they thought, oh shit, TikTok is banned, it's over.
They can't now get the app back.
That's crazy.
That was the real, we spoke about this on a Patreon episode. I was explaining how, where their banning is really gonna work back. That's crazy. That was the real, we spoke about this on a Patreon episode,
I was explaining how, where their banning
is really gonna work at.
That's it.
That's why you can't go get CapCut now.
That's why you can't go get, it's like seven or eight apps
that was under ByteDance.
You can't get them.
Ironically, Instagram has just announced
that they're coming out with an app called Edits,
which does exactly what cap cut does.
Which is what? I'm slow. It's just for you to edit your videos.
It's a video editing tool.
Oh, on the white and video.
For niggas that still get flunked.
It does like cool transitions and shit like that.
I don't even pretend to.
But yeah, they just playing games in front of everybody's face.
Yeah, the message that popped up on my phone was, sorry, TikTok isn't available right now.
A law banning TikTok has been enacted in the US.
Unfortunately, that means you can't use TikTok right now.
We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on the
solution to reinstate TikTok once he takes office.
Please stay tuned.
That's wild.
Exclamation fucking point.
And then before he took office,
it was already back up and running.
It was, yeah.
How many of y'all here use TikTok?
I have, but I'm just not committed to it.
I need to start.
I post every once in a while.
Yeah, it's not my favorite app.
Only time I see TikTok is if somebody sent me one
and you click it and it takes you to the fucking big game.
My girl sends me TikTok, so I use it for when she sends me.
Yeah, that's it.
I got like eight posts on TikTok.
I never use it.
It's not interesting to me.
It's not for my audience.
We all just watched.
We all.
They ain't know the shit.
Because they live on that shit.
My kids live on it.
I would have people tell me, they TikTok things
they don't even Google.
Like Google is old.
Like you know how anything we want to look up,
you Google it, they TikTok it.
They get their results and their answers
and shit right there.
What app or what social,
what app did you guys become addicted to initially
when it came out?
Was it Instagram?
Was it Twitter?
It was Twitter for me.
Twitter for you.
The addiction part.
It wasn't an app though, right?
Twitter.
Twitter's an app.
No, it's an app now, but not the time that I,
10 years ago.
It was always an app.
No, no, no, no, no. It was text code first, so 404, initially.
And then it became an app.
Yes, exactly.
You became addicted since then.
No, I was an app by the way.
I got addicted with the app in old times.
I was addicted to Facebook though when that shit came out.
Me too.
That was my shit.
Somebody was like,
oh my God, how will I know where to go eat?
And somebody was like, no, you go cook. And they were like, yeah,, how will I know where to go eat? Somebody was like, no, you go cook.
They were like, yeah, but how will I know what to cook?
I was crazy, son.
I understand the impact that TikTok had.
I felt for them for the 12 hours,
but it was a nice little break.
Was a nice little break.
Yeah, come over here.
Get over here.
Like a whole new influx of people shaking ass on Instagram.
Like, hey, new rills.
Fresh meat.
One lady said she makes 30,000 a month.
She was in the car crying.
I felt kind of bad for her.
I feel bad for her, yeah.
I'd have been in the car crying too.
She said, I'd make 30,000 a month.
I don't know, I might.
That's what we do though.
What do she do on there?
Nah, niggas make millions of dollars on TikTok.
I don't know what she do, but. That amount of What do she do on there? No niggas make millions of dollars I know I did what she do with that amount of money. I'm moving
We got a save up right?
Y'all been it. Okay. I'm gonna write it works
You're saving yes, I took from it now you got to say for rainy days
Yo people got everybody ain't in the position that's making shit is high as fuck
I mean here but when niggas make 30, they spend it 27.
Oh no, you right.
28.
You right.
I made 30 a month, let me go get a new,
like it's just shit that we do.
Put some shit away, man.
That's what I've been learning, put it away.
There you go.
I didn't know how much people was,
I was on a spaces, my wife was out of the countryside,
I had a little more free time.
Time of your hands.
Yeah, a little more time of my hands.
And I went to a couple spaces with you and Imani and Joe.
There might have been like two in the morning or something.
I was just doing research, you know,
to understand the app better.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so I started clicking on some of the profiles
that was in the audience.
In the audience, to understand the fan base better.
It's called demographic research.
And what did you learn?
That a whole lot of them make a whole lot of money.
Only fans.
Yeah.
So those are the ones you was clicking on.
They had the only fan.
Well, they gravitate.
They were the vocal ones.
Ah, she's fooling you.
No, no, the algorithm.
They were vocal.
No, because he's right,
because I don't follow them,
but the, they were vocal.
On TikTok late at night, the algorithm bring them to you.
No, we don't.
He's on Twitter though.
Twitter, that's what I'm talking about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The algorithm.
The algorithm.
Yeah, and I just bring them up.
I go to their page first and say, oh, she's,
okay, come up.
Like that's how I do it.
It's an influx of them.
And I do the research on the people he brought up.
Yeah, so do you.
So y'all had the one, two thing going.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was just in the audience.
It was him and Amani.
And then I brought you up there.
Posting.
Oh, you brought me up.
I didn't say a word.
Let's spend more time unpacking what happened
on the free spaces.
It changed my life, man.
And how you discern, how you bring people up.
Let's spend more time right here, right this thing.
No, no, we ain't doing that.
Talking about that, what y'all think?
No, we ain't doing that.
All I'm saying is there's a lot of freaky people in there
making a lot of money and I didn't realize it.
I don't see how you didn't realize that.
It's not my world.
I'm not talking about the audience anymore.
I'm just talking about how they're getting to it out there.
I just didn't appreciate how much, like it's not my world.
I didn't know either.
So you, you kinda...
Be careful.
No, I'm serious, like the pod rather, not you per se,
but the pod made me realize it's whole other worlds out there
that I know nothing about
I'm dead. I serious like if it if it's not in your
Immediate circle or circle. I don't know some of that shit exists Like I've never had a tick tock in my life
But I know people make money like my niece and I'm be killing them
They make mad bread on that shit, but this is like it never really crossed my path
You can make money. Yeah, you gotta start TikToking your house builds.
Today we're going to build a roof.
Let me show you how.
Hey yo, Jeff, come.
You make mad money, huh?
You gotta take advantage of that shit.
I don't know how to do none of that shit.
You just?
I don't know how to do none of that shit.
Have your niece teach you.
True.
You don't have a pod TikTok page or nothing?
No.
Interesting, why wouldn't you?
I did, but I stopped it.
I'll tell you why I offer you.
Okay, gotcha.
Got you.
All right, well, did y'all catch Chappelle on SNL?
Yes, it was great.
I personally think he absolutely smoked that.
It was a 17 minute monologue, which was really a set.
Pretty much.
And he touched on everything from Trump to Paul.
Yeah, the world.
The fires in LA.
And Chappelle Genius was just able to say some real shit
while making it funny. and then tied it all together
at the end.
Because I loved him opening with,
yeah they called me to do this shit months ago
and I was like, no nigga, get the fuck out of here.
But they were so persistent that I just said,
ah fuck it, January 6th or whatever the date was.
I loved him highlighting that
because I done got caught a million times with that.
You try to get somebody off the phone,
so you just end up booking yourself to do some shit
that you're going to forget about in a few months.
I loved it.
I love how he ended it with basically saying that empathy
and just being compassionate to your fellow man
is really what's the priority.
So he mentions whether you're in the Palisades
or Palestine, empathy.
Mark, I have a question.
How do you feel about people who can freely discuss
Palestine and not kind of pay any kind of consequence
at this point?
I'd be hating.
I'd be mad as shit sometimes.
I'm happy for them, and I'm happy, it's like Kaepernick. You know, it's like, people kneel and don't get in trouble,
where he got blackballed, and they make him the example,
so it's always gonna be difficult for him,
but other people are able to do it because of him.
I'm not saying like I'm the Kaepernick of this shit,
I'm just saying, I appreciate it.
You should be able to do SNL.
I just fucked up.
They won't take my calls, man.
They keep fucking ignoring me.
No, I mean, I just, you know, I love it.
And I love that Chappelle's using his platform
to be courageous.
I also just thought that he was funny as shit, man.
He was.
I mean, you can get,
I don't usually like poor people jokes.
Nah, he smoked that.
But he killed it.
I was laughing, like, you know what I mean?
It was like, it was actually funny.
You know what I mean? Sometimes when people do it, it's not funny. I'm glad that he killed it. I was laughing like you know I mean it was like it was actually funny You know I mean sometimes when people do it. It's not funny. I'm glad they wore sleeves. I guess first time
Don't smoke a cig
And the skits were pretty funny that he was into not for nothing SNL be hitting miss. He's he's low-key
He's putting his name in the top three.
I feel like it was already there.
Like, it was, yes.
Not for me, boy.
It was already there.
He's low key putting his name in the top three.
Top three is hot, but yeah.
Did you see the Chappelle show?
I did.
I wasn't a fan of the Chappelle show like that.
Oh.
Really?
I get it.
That fits. That's right. No, it doesn't. Do you not like, like, um.. Huh? Really? I get it. That fits.
That's right.
No it doesn't.
Do you not like humor?
Yeah.
So you didn't like the white pile with Joe Bigsley?
I knew you was gonna say that.
I don't believe what Flip did do.
You didn't like the white pile with Joe Bigsley
and all that?
Yeah, that shit wasn't really funny.
What?
When he thought he was white?
No, for real.
I don't think that, I should think that that's funny. Oh
Yeah, right Rick James
I'm not the biggest fan of slapstick comedy or sketch comedy like that. Mmm. What type of comedy you like it
Rick James, bitch, smack that, that's not. That was a bomb joke. No, that's a whole.
That's a whole, yeah.
What the fuck?
I think it's slapstick.
Somebody got slapped, they don't make it slapstick.
Yo, it's go watch this Chappelle show, please,
to at least be like.
They need to play a hit of ball episode.
I've seen the racial fucking draft.
World Series of Dice.
But be cultural with us a little bit, come on, man.
No, but you gotta find out what's our brother's,
what do you consider comedy?
What is your comedy?
That's what I was curious about.
What is your comedy?
C-SPAN.
Mr. Bean.
Kelsey Grammer.
Harlem Nights, Boomerang.
Eddie Murphy.
All right, like current time shit though.
Yeah, like.
Anything the century.
Niggas ain't laughed in 40 years.
He ain't laughed a century.
All right.
All right.
Niggas said Harlem Nights, Boomerang. You ain't you ain't laughing.
Hollywood shuffle was funny as shit.
Ocean 11 original one with the Rat Pack.
With the Rat Pack.
Dick Gregory, Johnny Carson. So, so no, you don't have no new comedy that you watch that you think is, you know, Johnny Carson. So you don't have no new comedy that you watch, that you think is, you know, that's relatable
to us.
You don't have to always be like a mystery.
Like relate.
What are you talking about?
Fam, I don't got to necessarily conform to what everybody think is funny.
What do you find funny?
What do you find funny?
Bro, I just started talking and the room cut me off.
Well, this century, that's what we're trying to say.
This century.
In the last 25 years. Who's in? What do you find funny today? Bro, I just started talking and the room cut me off. Well, this century.
That's what we're trying to say.
This century.
In the last 25 years.
Who's your top three?
You said Chappelle's entering the top three.
Who's your top three comedians?
Red Fox.
Richard Pryor.
Red Fox.
Eddie.
Eddie.
Sammy Davis.
Mops Mabley.
Eddie. Sammy Davis.
Mops Mabley.
If you take this old chit to another level, Red Fox, I just.
They get homeless in the Lenny Bruce records.
Weird Al.
Weird Al Yankovitch.
I'm sorry, what the hell, I forgot his name.
Who's your top three?
Peewee Armies for sure.
Who's your top three? Who's your top three? Peewee Armand for sure. Who's your top three?
Who's your top three?
Richard Pryor.
Eddie Murphy.
And...
I'm going to add you to my seat.
Cory, don't try to help your man.
Maybe Carlin?
George Carlin.
Okay. I'm going to go with the guy. I see. Cory, don't try to help your man.
Maybe Carlin?
George Carlin, okay.
Okay.
Who?
That's what I was waiting for.
Who the fuck is that?
George Carlin.
Nah, George Carlin, that nigga the whole world.
George Carlin is, yeah. George Carlin was Chappelle George Carlin that nigga the whole time. George Carlin is, yeah.
George Carlin was Chappelle before Chappelle.
Really? George Carlin, he's alive right?
And he's still alive. Wait, is he?
No, he's not.
Look, they don't even know.
Yo, get the fuck out of here.
His last special was 40 years ago.
He was good for real?
Yes, in 81.
But his stand up is all over fucking TikTok and Instagram.
You don't even have TikTok.
I do have TikTok, bitch.
Yes, the fuck I do.
I said I don't really use it that much.
His standup is all up.
Yeah, yeah, I don't knock it off.
Let me look at this.
He's George Carlin.
Look at the words you can't say.
What is it?
10 words you can't say on television.
He got a couple bits that are really classic.
Look at that bitchy.
Look at the motherfuckers talking about George Carlin.
All right, who's the fourth?
Who's the fourth?
Come on, this is getting good.
Good boy, Ish.
The audience is on edge.
I can't really think off the top of my head, but.
Chappelle, maybe?
Maybe.
Okay.
Because Eddie Murphy's last comedy special was
81, 84.
84. He stopped doing comedy. comedy special was 81, 84. 84.
He stopped doing comedy.
You know that?
That's what I'm saying.
So for you like the last.
He got vintage.
He got a vintage.
I don't know if you know.
Yo, that nigga get his comedians from Jack.
Oh, Jack.
Oh, Jack.
I think so, that's too much.
Can you pick people that's still doing comedy?
But that nigga said, Can you pick people that's still doing comedy?
But if you have a top current three.
You got it.
No, there's nothing wrong with that.
Those are legends.
Nah, that's his list, man.
Come on, man.
Do you have a top current three?
You ever hear somebody listen to me like.
Joe, you have a top current three?
Top, I wouldn't say.
You said current?
I have my own personal.
Yeah, current changes the whole thing.
I have my own personal favorites in Chapella's.
Are they current, your personal favorites?
Chapella's current.
OK.
Bill Burr's current.
You naming current comedians, not your top three
comedians of all time.
It changes the whole entire-
Chappelle is in my top three all the time.
George Carlin could kick a rock somewhere.
Nah, never that.
No.
George Carlin's hilarious.
So?
He could still kick a rock somewhere.
I'm not trying to say that he's not a legend and funny, but bye, get out of here.
Okay.
So who are the two in your top three?
You said Chappelle?
Chappelle?
Oh, I'm not naming it. Oh, doing the top now. Top three all the time? All the time. Who in your top three? You said Chapelle? Chapelle. Oh, I'm not naming it. Oh, doing the top now.
Top three all time.
All time, who's your top three?
Eddie.
Good.
I put Patrice.
O'Neal. I put Patrice in O'Neal.
I put Patrice in mind.
It was short, but it was short.
I feel you.
That's impactful.
That's how I feel about Robin Harris.
Short but impactful.
He's in my talkery.
Short but impactful.
Wow.
He's my all-time favorite comedian.
You don't agree?
Top three of all time?
No.
Just my list.
Yeah.
I'm just saying wow.
Y'all stay wow with my hip hop choices. I'm wow with your comedy choices. That my list. Yeah, I'm just saying wow.
Y'all stay wow with my hip hop choices.
I'm wow with your comedy choices.
That's cool.
Robin Harris will not be in my top three.
That's fine.
You'll be in my top eight.
Who's your top three?
Top ten ain't in your top three.
Who's your top three?
Probably kind of got to go Eddie Pryor and Chappelle for me.
It's Eddie Pryor and Robin Harris.
Wow.
You got Robin Harris above.
This is my favorite.
I know, nigga.
I'm surprised, I'm expressing surprise.
What about you, Mark?
I wouldn't put Robin Harris above.
I wouldn't even put Robin Harris above Bernie Mac.
At all.
That was what surprised me.
I mean, for that style of comedy,
if that's your style of comedy,
I would have had Bernie higher.
But Eddie would be on my list.
Chappelle would be on my list. Chappelle would be on my list.
I might go, Chris Rock and his Prime. Chris Rock is funny.
Chris Rock and his Prime.
Actually, Chris Rock replaces Chappelle for me.
There's too many comedians that I love for me
to even have this conversation.
And that's what makes it hard.
I love way too many.
Because Bill Burr is right at the precipice.
There's a few that are right at that line for me.
Is Bill Cosby on any else list?
I hate Bill Cosby. Bill Cosby's a piece of human garbage,
but he is a top five comedian of all time.
Bill Cosby's funny, so.
Really?
He's funny.
He's fucking hilarious.
Cosby's standups, like the old school shit
from the 70s was funny.
Yo, Whoopi Goldberg, old school standups,
funny and shit, like it's some good stuff.
I mean, Bill Cosby's the template for Kevin Hart
in a lot of ways, but in terms of like the family style,
the family style of storytelling, I think Bill Cosby is the template for Kevin Hart in a lot of ways but in terms of like the family style the family style
of storytelling I think I think Bill Cosby's I mean excellent. Red Fox actually is I mean
we clown him. Red Fox is another one top ten to me. Lenny Bruce top ten. Richard Pryor to me is
upper echelon. I mean there's a lot of great comedians though. And salute to each one of them. Yes.
We did.
I hate being that guy. Sorry you guys. I don't like it. I hate being that guy.
No, no, no.
Sorry, you guys.
I don't like it.
I'm trying to change.
I'm trying to change.
That shit bad.
You look at your phone and do the same show all the time.
You go like this.
I was telling Joe on Spaces last night that,
hold on, let me just say this.
That you make fun of our topics,
but you have a plethora of topics in your notes,
and you just be going right past them, just like this.
I watch you all the time from here,
and then you say, you act like you don't know about the topic,
then you go to ICE.
So tell us about it at ICE, be ready to go in.
And we was laughing about it last night,
so I'm watching you today.
If you do it, I'm gonna point it out.
You need to start speaking on some shit
because we wanna hear from you. That phone, whatever you got, today if you do it. I'm gonna point it out You need to start speaking on some shit. We want to hear from you that phone whatever you got has a lot in it
I'd be trying to see for you, but is the screen protector shit on it. Yeah, that's illegal, right?
That's against the law
Trump might change the law back to do a read into my shit in their phone
I'm not gonna do anything with the information.
Are you a phone reader in general?
No, I'm not. Yes.
Yes, she is.
Oh, okay, Mel.
Mel, no.
Turn the pot up with some lies.
Yeah, let's go.
Nah, let's get back in our bed.
Like in terms of when I have a man,
do I look at his phone?
Yeah, like if you sit like somebody on the couch,
are you like looking at the phone?
Do you look at Joe's phone, Mel, honestly,
because I'm sitting here with a laptop screen.
Why don't you look through phones?
The only-
Boxes in the closet.
No.
Like, why do we even...
Okay, that was a long time ago.
People debate and lie about shit that they don't even have to lie about.
That was a long time ago, and that's what taught me, don't go looking for shit that you
don't want to see.
True.
And really, honestly, the only thing I'll be seeing is when you scroll through Instagram
for some motivation that you want to hit us with, or comedy.
See, and that's why people shouldn't talk about nothing you do in your phone.
They be saying something they think is helpful.
Get out of here.
Okay, fine.
All right.
I'm sorry Flip, I tried.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, god damn it.
Anyway, Joey Badass.
Joey Badass.
Joey Badass.
Wanna get ready to some music?
Why not?
Why not?
Let's go.
Come on, let's go.
More Conductor. More Conductor. We'll get ready to see some music. Why not? Let's go. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, not sorry.
More Conductor.
More Conductor.
They f***ing around, woke up the star seed from Marcy.
Not the projects but them Brooklyn streets with my heartbeat.
Okay.
F***ing Ron Harsky, 193 Vernon Avenue, n****s with attitudes.
Man, I'm bigging up my city, that's something I had to do.
Do it down home of the gully, where we let laugh fly.
2025 with my bully, I know that men lie.
Women lie, but Joey don't.
Mike Delete later, I know damn sure that Joey won't.
Fuck it, I went on a schmoo.
That's all right.
That's the line.
That's the line that people were upset about.
Little J. Cole jab.
Why they upset about that?
Mike Delete.
I really don't understand.
Like, rappers are going to continue to point to poke fun at that probably forever. For eternity. Yeah.
Because they're stripping away the rapper's ability to rap and be creative and
say some shit with all these sensitive bitch-ass emotions. Yeah. Now. And Joe's
leaning into it. And yeah. Which I like like me too. I like hearing that from him. I
He was flowing he was
What's wrong with punching up
Nothing, I respect it. Nothing's wrong. I'm one of my favorite things to do
Why waste time punching with the equivalent or lesser and he might not think it's up
equivalent or lesser. And he might not think it's up.
Niggas that confident in their skill,
like nigga you might be up in terms of popularity
or whatever, but if we put Pitt in the pad,
it ain't, you ain't up.
He can rap rap.
He could.
He can, yeah.
And a lot of people don't know it, so yeah.
Don't worry about it, let me do it.
And I like that he not doing no internet shit with it.
I'll just keep rapping.
YouTube drops too.
I tried to find this on the DSPs and it wasn't there.
I'll just YouTube.
Nice video too, I like this video a lot.
But don't bark at me, I was just saying
that most people have J. Cole probably higher
on the list than Joey Badass.
I wasn't trying to stifle his.
I would be one of those people,
but I still like hearing this though.
I like hearing it and I like it being somebody from New York.
I think New York is wide open and there for somebody to be aggressive.
New York has always thrived when somebody was aggressive with the I'm from New York.
I don't think it's enough of that going on.
I think the West Coast is running around with all they pride.
Atlanta been having pride.
They mad at the West Coast a little bit now.
New York has just been kind of silent on the matter.
So I love it because all our greats
either get taken away from us
or make too much money on their first album
and want to continue to do music.
But yeah, yeah, it's over.
Or they take the stand.
It's nuts in New York.
Gun charges, oh shit, they pop somebody
in the projects over there.
Like New York has been in a rut., so if Joey badass want to take a break from the acting shit to get lyrical
Yeah, who the fuck am I who the fuck am I to stop when I don't care we talking to some people said that he should
Have came back
with something to say toward rave on
Daylight and some of the other people
that had things to say about them.
I don't necessarily agree with that.
I'm also with rappers ignoring who they think
they should be, or who they think should be ignored.
Do you think that comes from being afraid
to be bested in the situation?
Because the whole ignore thing, I noticed that even
in hip hop, even in battle rap, like people could,
a match could be so perfect, but the person would be like,
I don't wanna go that direction.
They'll make a whole bunch of excuses,
I'm punching down, they're not on my level.
They say a lot of fancy words for risk assessment.
Risk, got it.
They use a lot of fancy words.
I think all rappers begin to do their own risk assessment.
I think everybody do.
There was a little daylight jab in this, by the way, so people say that he didn't say none. I don't remember. I decided not to mind now funny line all the time saying it's my time Swiss or divine probably
Alonis little lighter my promise. I'm a let it shine
Little little bit of a day like rough. I got it. I got it. Well now that we got the fucking
Rap genius forensic foul crepe diggers out there. They're gonna find a diss even when you didn't mean it this
Some symbolic meaning by mistake.
I used to love when fans did that with my shit.
I ain't go, oh shit, he meant this.
I was like, I didn't, but I'm rolling.
But that was fly.
That's the good though.
That kind of could work too, I think.
Yo, I'm the Ellis.
Nobody do that shit more than Kendrick fans, bro.
That's true.
Word.
Nobody, no, they win.
Yeah, but you can't hate on what somebody got in a bag
Like if you're a fan base do that with you as another rapper. I can't sit there and be like I
Don't actually that's part of his bag
Different levels come with different perks
Except for fucking miss pac-man whereas the levels get harder the ghost time gets shorter and shorter
Yeah, it worked You never got that far who you talking to you never This Pac-Man where as the levels get harder, the ghost time gets shorter and shorter. No, they don't even turn.
Yeah, word.
Sometimes they don't work.
You never got that far.
Who you talking to?
You never got that far.
And don't say it again,
because I'm a buy Miss Pac-Man and put it in your head.
You've been saying that.
I hope you do.
Why you won't play Monopoly with me no more?
You sound like a broken record.
I'm free tonight.
Me too.
Y'all did the same thing last time.
Cory, what's up?
Y'all are just talking.
Yeah, they did the same thing last Tuesday.
They just defeated it. They just talked now. Yeah, they did the same thing last Tuesday. They just talking.
Now it's your ass.
Now it's your ass.
That's it.
I'll remind him.
I know your bag.
Please do.
Don't fuck with my man, is that right?
He know you're my son.
He's on the stands, nigga.
Monopoly, that's my son.
Do I realize that's your thing?
You just raise shit, talk shit, and then don't do it.
Only in the, and don't do it.
And don't do it.
Oh, you just talking right now.
I'm just, nothing. He put some bass in his voice behind that one. And don't do it and don't do it
I've been the only one to
Follow up with the gems. I've been the only one they follow up with you about space It's fucking black whatever happened with the basketball thing y'all give it he got hit in the face with a water bottle and threatened to sue Corey
First of all
Second I'm ready to-
Oh, shit.
He know who he was naming it.
Or you and Mel been talking again.
They been on the phone talking more than just lotto tickets.
Okay.
You know, Mark, I saw that, right?
Yeah, witness.
I can vouch.
She used words like I can vouch for you.
Vouch. Yeah. Joey Badass, I can vouch for you. Vouch.
Yeah.
Joey Badass, I'm with it.
Sorry, I don't have nothing deep on this.
I'm with it.
But now when somebody punched back,
don't go trying to shoot a new show.
Right.
That's my only thing.
Don't talk about it.
When the boomerang come back your way,
niggas start talking about, oh, I'm on tour. I was with my girl
Yo, I'm not even I'm this is beneath me. I don't want to hear none of that shit, buddy
I don't think you're gonna get it from it sounds like this is his energy. Yeah, you stated it
It sounds like it. I think so and he just beat somebody up in the coach store
Energy and Daniel Leathers. I think he's doing that void. I think he's seeing a void. Stop doing that, bro. Because the people over there, the other spot, they think you're doing that on purpose.
Stop.
It's affecting me.
Here's another spot.
Daruchi, nigga.
Oh, see, I only know Dan.
No, stop doing that.
I had a full understanding with them.
I used my voice for all the wrong things.
I had a full understanding with them
and all you kept doing was putting Daniel Leather on me.
That was foul.
That's nasty.
That was foul.
And you ain't been in the first six.
How about you can't get your shirt on.
You can't get your shirt on.
You can't get your shirt on.
Y'all definitely start wearing them sports jackets.
They took his joint back.
What was those shirts called?
I don't even remember.
Pro player.
Pro player.
Non-starter.
Black hawks. They don't sell starters anymore anyway.
I said non-starter.
Them jackets was non-starter.
It's a non-starter, sure.
Yeah.
That's all right.
I went there the other day.
I did go to the Roochie the other day
and I was hanging out with him
and I was talking about it.
Please.
Nobody asked about homeboy.
What, huh, by who?
Please.
About my man.
Nobody asked about that. Look at me. About my man. Nobody asked me about that.
Look at me now.
Take me.
I need a jacket.
Hey, yo, let me get your, what's up?
I would like to film content for this.
I'll shoot it for the JBN.
Let me go get your white fur.
JBN is off until.
No, I'm just saying, like, I had Paul recall me.
I want to go get the white fur.
You never picked up.
Let me get that. No, it's OK, My man. It's okay. I do need to go
Same motherfucker who was that? I'm fucking Griselda niggas at the bills game
Yeah, they look good
Good time they look good. She's gonna have a gun hat on. Yeah. Yeah, no play. Yeah gun look great
All new set of jewelry to you. I think a lot of you rappers is running around with That shit gun hat on look. Yeah, gun don't play. Yeah. Gun look great.
All new set of jewelry too.
That's the thing, a lot of you rappers
just running around with, oh man.
What's the night?
I mean.
The flimmy of the flim.
I'm letting y'all rappers know,
I make the picture bigger.
I put two fingers to screen fast.
Doop doop.
Oh shit, oh that's the 03 Jacobs.
This niggas got the old, old fuzzy foggy shit.
It's a trick. They go to the Diamond District, but then they go to the one across.
They said they made it to the one across, they act like they in the poppin' one.
They in the nasty shit in the Diamond District.
They just walk up in the damn Diamond District still.
There's some nasty shit on down in the Diamond District.
It's bad.
But anyway.
You gotta get it, I guess.
Exactly.
Yeah, since we talking music, man,
y'all sent all the whole Vendors after me.
All the, everybody who watched the podcast last week,
it was two kinds of people.
People who were telling me I was 100% right,
and then people who were trying to make it seem like I was saying
something crazy for talking about Beans staying with Hov or being better on a
bunch of tracks. And then Beans to me gave me some vindication this week when
he did the interview where he talked about the fact that when him and Jay and
Bleak were on the same track that Jay was writing for Bleak.
He was saying he was always trying to give him an advantage.
And the reason I say that is because that's another reason,
Hope clearly saw him as competition.
And so he was always trying to keep the race tight
because he understood how dope Beanie Seagull was.
And I think in this room,
because there's such an anti-Philly bias
and so much Philly hate in this room.
We love Philly.
We love Philly.
Beanie's is fire.
But for starters- That was your vindication is fire. But for starters, you did medication.
Yes.
Well, one, you started wrong, though.
Because initially, you told us Beans was washing whole.
And four seconds later, I took that back.
But that's where it started.
It wasn't no anti-Philly or nothing like that.
It was like, whoa, that statement you made was a little crazy.
What?
Crazy.
No, it's crazy.
So then, once you said he either kept up or bested him crazy. What? Crazy? No, it's crazy.
So then once you said he either kept up or bested him on some records, you're like, oh
no, no.
You agree with that statement?
Do you agree with that statement?
That he kept up or bested him?
Yes.
On every record?
Kept up or bested.
No, not on every record.
We didn't.
So talking about him, because I hear people saying he's snitching, right?
That basically if somebody's writing for somebody,
you can't come out and say,
yo, he wrote for him on that track.
I was gonna ask what's the,
for clarification on the difference.
My thing is, what Mark said was his vindication,
and your rationale behind it is crazy to me.
Yo, if me, you and Joe rap,
but y'all rap better than me, and we all crew.
Someone give me a little bar, too.
Yeah, why the fuck would y'all want us to all be a team
and a crew and putting out a project,
and y'all just belittling me on the raps
and I can't keep up with y'all?
But that don't mean that Joe writing my shit
because he is looking at you like a threat.
He writing my shit because he want the team
to come in representing.
I think another way to look at it is, I'm trying to keep you in your place.
So if we assume that if me, you and Joe was a rap crew, right?
And we assume Joe was the best, far fetched, but let's assume Joe was the best.
And then it's me and you, right?
And I think you know you better than me.
Right.
But I think me, but what I'm saying is I got to really I'm trying to compete with Joe and
Joe really trying to compete with me.
You know, actually, this actually works out in real life would be y'all too.
Right?
Y'all just and you're from Philly, so it works out. It actually works out perfectly. If Joe starts slipping raps like y'all want to make sure you keep up with me. You know, actually this actually works out. In real life it would be y'all two, right? Y'all just. And you're from Philly so it works out perfectly.
Yeah, it actually works out perfectly.
If Joe starts slipping raps like,
y'all I wanna make sure you keep up with Ish,
I wanna make sure Ish stay in.
That's the idea is that he's on the low,
he's trying to keep Beans and Bleak in the same place.
All right, now let me, let me, hold on, hold on.
Jay, now hold on.
I know, that's my interpretation.
I'm telling you, that's my reading.
All right, now what about if I'm Jay,
and y'all are both my artists,
I want y'all to look good. True. That's it. And if I know I've got a right shit. I'm eating, I'm eating and y'all are both my artists, I want y'all to look good.
True.
That's it.
And if I know I've got to write your shit.
I'm eating off of this.
Okay, cool.
So why not somebody who can rap?
This my man.
I got my man on.
He's my man from home.
I just, I never liked it.
I never liked it.
I mean, he wrote, the thing is, first of all,
Jay admitted that he wrote for Bleak since day one.
Okay.
He's talked about it from,
literally from the first album. Coming of Age. Coming of Age, he wrote. And part Jay admitted that he wrote for Bleeck since day one. He's talked about it from literally from the first album.
Coming to age.
Coming to age he wrote.
And part two, that he wrote that too.
So at some point, and according to Beans, if he's writing all your hits and all your best verses.
That's not all your hits and best verses, one.
I said according to Beans.
I'm not saying, I don't know if it's true or not, but if that is true, then at some point it's like, what's the-
And at that time, if you didn't keep up, we used to have an H Money bag on Hot 97,
how he just, when he was on there, how,
you know, shout out to him, but it was no longer,
at that time, you have to keep up with the who was who
and make sure you sound good,
or it'll look bad on your team.
It will.
That's it.
I don't think him writing for Bleak is,
I don't think he wrote for him completely,
but I don't think him giving him bars
was anything far fetched.
I still think that's niche, what Bean said,
because whole writing for coming of age one and two,
those are back and forth records.
And a lot of times when two artists do a back
and forth record, one usually writes more,
if not the whole shit.
Especially if one is an experienced rapper
and the other one really isn't.
I'm gonna write my verse, I'm gonna write your verse, I'm gonna show you how to do your verse so we can do this track together
That's not the same thing as your biggest hits
That I'm not even on or your biggest records
My he wrote those two here's why that's that's different comments. Here's why it's not snitching me one again
Jay already talked about it to Dame Dash two earlier said, yo, he wrote for bleak.
Right, Dame Dash literally said the same thing two weeks ago. So if I ain't, if it's already out there,
it's like y'all were saying to me about Luther and it's like, if it's already out there,
then me saying something about it is different. You know what I mean? No, it's not. How? How's it snitching if people already know?
Because y'all both rats. It could be two rats, nigga.
Cause y'all both rats. It could be two rats nigga.
What the fuck you talking about?
It don't gotta be one rat.
If y'all both ratted, y'all both ratted.
And nobody confirmed it.
So if you got up there, it could have been my word versus his word.
Now you get up there and say, nah, it's two rats.
The CEO saying it to me is a little different than another rapper saying it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like if another rapper said it, that's just his word versus's just his word, version. You standing in your Philly body.
Did Ho say I wrote the coming of age records,
or did he say I wrote bleak records?
He said he wrote coming of age records.
Okay, so that again.
And then Dane Dad said he wrote bleak records.
Again, I'm not saying it's true or not, I don't know.
I'm just saying, but.
Yo, do me a favor.
Go downstairs and fire up the DeLorean.
If you start the DeLorean, I think we can bring this info back and make a change in
how history was fucking written, like for real.
What y'all think?
Yeah.
Do you hear these niggas?
Back to the future shit.
Do you hear these niggas?
They will get trapped and start having a hole in neither one gonna let it go.
In closing,
Bleak got too many hits for anybody to say something to him about any of it.
Like, a Bleak setlist is a Bleak setlist. There is no disrespect that you could
put on Bleak's name and this probably won't be the last that you hear of
stories from people that have had a falling out with All Things Rockefeller.
Talking about the ones that didn't have the fallout.
Is there a rapper who could write something for you that you would take if it was dope enough?
No. A lyric?
Yeah, like if Hov called you and said, yo, I got this, yo, do this track with me, I wrote the bars for you.
Is Hov producing me?
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh, then yeah, but it wouldn't be a lyric.
Like, he's done that before.
Hey, the beat is doing this, so try to catch this flow.
I think the hook needs, rappers need help with-
I'm sorry, I mean the whole verse.
With song, man.
Not a bar, the whole verse.
And not a flow, not a pocket.
No. Words.
No.
Just curious, just curious.
There's no need.
Because he does, that's what-
I'm the wordsmith.
Yeah, and that's what Hov does,
what you said as far as the pocket and the- That's what that's I'm the wordsmith Yeah, and that's what ho does what you said as far as like the pocket and that's what produces to do
Somebody that could help you like I'm from rappers helping each other damn
It's not with I saw my voice dude
Royce is the king of that shit of hearing something to beat that nobody else is gonna hear and just giving you a different way to
Attack something to me. It's the same as ballplayers helping athletes helping athletes
but words I attack something. To me it's the same as ball players helping athletes helping athletes. But words, I can do the words. Tell me about where you want the
direction of the song, the hook, the pocket, the words I can come up with. I don't
need, I don't need help. And I'm not knocking nobody that, that takes either. That takes.
Today they got entire writing camps where rappers are getting together and
helping each other with the writing.
I think in that infiltrated even battle rap a bunch of years ago. So however you get it, it's how you get it.
If a room of five of us can come up with something that's going to generate seven and eight figures over the course of the next 30 and 40 years,
then my pride is not, shouldn't get in the way of that, is what I'm saying.
But I'm one of the best rappers to ever live.
I didn't need help with the words.
And if my man took me out to projects and said,
yo, come with me, I want to change your life,
and I'ma just pin some shit for you,
and you just gotta say it with some emphasis.
I ain't mad at that.
It is not enough of that in the music business
where you trust someone.
I'ma come up, hold my own way to what?
Yo, there's some people that have more expertise
in what we're doing, they got more experience,
more knowledge, you could just trust that person
and give something a shot.
The music business is all about shots.
So, try some shit.
Same, I mean, it could, and that pause,
that kinda landed on me, pause. What do you mean? Because like, and that pause, that kind of landed on me pause.
What do you mean?
Because like, before coming up here, I had my own podcast that was doing good, right?
And then coming here, I learned so much, I learned so many things about the business from Joe.
You're bleak.
I'm not bleak, no.
I never watch your mouth.
Watch your mouth.
Listen, for the first two years,
for the first two years, it was extremely hard for me
to take any form of criticism.
But I started to watch it a little bit,
and I started to implement it in how I do business.
It happens, man.
There's too many niggas out there,
separate from this, there's too many niggas out there
that's just cool
or wanna be the boss of nothing
instead of partners with everything.
Yeah, that's real shit.
Real shit.
That is so real.
A lot of times you realize,
it's like a slap in the face.
Like damn, and I'm so headstrong.
So as long as I saw the numbers,
what I thought, I'm doing it, I don't give a fuck
you know what it is, and then coming here, it was doing it, I don't give a fuck what it is.
And then coming here, it was like, ah, okay.
It's a whole nother world.
I hate how it sounds sonically.
I hate it all ararar, talking on top of each other.
It's just little things that I picked up
on how he just structures the business of podcasting.
I found myself, when I went back to do it again,
and it got, I guess, more traction, or better traction,
better comments and stuff like that,
because it's like, all right,
yo, yo, yo, y'all niggas is talking to each other,
slow down, or do this, or do that.
You started producing?
Oh yeah, I started producing, yeah.
And I learned that up here.
You left that shit with me, I'm a nigga,
it would have just been some.
That's what life is about.
Yeah, learning.
So people make fun of that,
but it's okay to come and partner with somebody,
and a nigga that's willing to teach you.
Yo, I watch it, it gets a little frustrating, right,
because you have a nigga like this,
what's the word, meticulous,
who watches everything and he criticizes,
frustrated and puts pressure on you
if you're not comfortable.
But it's also a good thing,
because he'll put me,
I saw that, try to do it like this.
Why?
And he's not going online
or going anywhere to take the credit for it.
So you just you know, I
There's a humility to that. I was thinking you told my ghost writing you bleak. You definitely definitely
There's no wrong with the bleaker. Yeah, yeah starting that stupid narrative Memphis bleak you
Nashville bleak
That should get on line be tight just remember I'm gonna come at you and get that job again
No, it's you just gotta stay humble with it you and get that job. Okay, what you say?
No, you just gotta stay humble with it
when you get that support and when you get to another level.
I ghost write books for people,
including like for celebrities, politicians, et cetera.
And sometimes they forget that they didn't write the shit.
Like their ego gets big enough.
Oh shit.
Like nigga, you didn't write this.
You know what I mean?
They start going around giving people writing advice,
doing writing workshops.
You know what I mean? That's hate though. That's hate., doing writing workshops. You know what I mean? That's hate though.
That's hate.
That's hate.
That's hate, Mark.
That's not hate.
That's hate.
How is that hate?
Maybe they learned from the process, like he said.
If Joe Button writes all my verses
and I come out with an album,
and then the next week I'm leaving that rapper's camp.
You know how much the camp payin'?
Yup.
Oh, you talking about the money?
I don't give a fuck about the money.
To me, it's the ego of it.
How much the camp payin'?
Sounds like you care about the money a little more.
All right, then you know what?
Then I'm hating. I'm just like, yo, your thesis statement is supposed to be, it's the ego of it. How much you can't pay. Sounds like you care about the money a little more. All right, then you know what? Then I'm hating.
I'm just like, yo, your thesis statement is supposed to be.
You crazy.
And it's like, nigga, you didn't.
Yeah, we didn't even start it.
All right.
Quentin Miller really had a fucked up run after that hole,
if you're reading this, it's too late.
Yeah, he did.
He had a really, not to depress you all,
but I think about it as you start, I was like, I would want to hurt somebody still.
Some things happen in the music business,
I wouldn't have totally be over yet.
Tell me what, I'm missing.
He didn't lose his leg, that's okay, he lost it.
Yes he did.
Yes.
He lost his leg.
Yeah.
He lost his leg, he lost his credibility,
then them boys went and got on him, they jumped on him.
Do you think that?
He had a hard time.
He had a rough run.
So basically, Joe, with that situation that-
After I just gave you all my slaps.
And your name kind of was like mud after that.
Even when he tried to now go out on his own-
And work with other people.
Yeah, they would-
They was like, nah.
But wait, okay, so let me just get, you know,
because you guys are here now.
This business is-
We're talking about him coming out and out and that he wrote some of the records, right?
No, they didn't come out and write and say shit though. It wasn't him wasn't his fault
He didn't come out and say hey, I wrote that so why did it?
Why would it fall bad on him if somebody exposed it you told me exposed it right when it got exposed?
Yeah, yeah, why would it fall? Why would it make him look bad if he didn't say anything?
It sure does it sure did That's what that's't say anything? It should have, but it did.
That's why he said he couldn't be associated with it.
You think the world knows that?
He didn't say it?
That's crazy.
I mean, I think those that paid attention know
that he didn't say it.
He hasn't really said much of anything.
It don't matter that he didn't say it, did say it.
None of that matters.
The particulars don't matter.
All you remember is, had a spark when you started
and for whatever the reason, shit went totally awry
afterward and I lost my leg.
Yeah.
Shout out to Quinn Miller.
Shout out to Quinn Miller.
I will keep my slaps.
No you won't.
But the slaps won't even hit the same coming from me.
You wouldn't keep your slaps. And you just said something totally different. You will not keep your slaps. Keeping my slaps. No you won't. But the slaps on me hit the stage coming from him. You wouldn't keep your slaps.
And you just said something totally different.
You would not keep your slaps.
I'm keeping my slaps.
You could be the boss of nothing or a part of anything.
I'm about to say you keep your slaps
and only you and your people's here.
And you making no money off of them.
But you got your slaps though.
You'd be the nicest nigga locally.
They ain't even slaps.
And they ain't slaps.
I believe in my slaps. I believe in my slaps.
I believe in my slaps.
Okay.
After a while.
Bet on yourself.
Cool.
Bet on yourself.
Believe in yourself.
If the slap could do that for him, then I'll take 30% of that doing it for me.
I don't need to have, his fate ain't mine.
He ain't gonna be the 30%.
What's for me, if what's for you.
Right.
If you can't speak to what it is, you'll never know, because you chose option number
one.
Mm-hmm. You chose option number one. But we don't know how't know how long he was choosing. I'm not even talking about him no more
I'm just talking about having some shit believing in yourself having a record having our time with it because you can't find backing and funding and
Then somebody with a name and a deal and a crowd come and then you fold
Cool, nothing wrong with that
Some niggas managed to make it with their shit
when they go the other way.
That's it.
Percentages are low.
Yeah, and a lot of niggas got life to juggle.
So it's like, all right, yeah, cool,
I can bet on myself, but I got a baby.
You might have been betting on yourself
for 10 straight years.
And this could be the break.
Oh shit, I've been betting on myself
and here comes a break.
Let me
Do y'all do y'all care at all about the new footage in the Meg Tory?
Police step out the car shit that came out recently
She stepped on the glass
Yeah, it's nothing there's no new information in that it's all that's a bit I didn't think so either but the internet seems to think that that's a gotcha moment because the
Internet is ridiculous. It's stupid they and they're easily duped that info that that footage isn't new that information isn't new
She told the doctor that this is not new information people
Just really want to believe that she's lying and so every time a new video comes every time a new piece of information comes out
The world goes upside down in that small group of Twitter people talk about it, but ain't nothing different
out the world goes upside down and that small group of Twitter people talk about it but ain't nothing different. And to be fair like she's lied a lot so
because of that there are people looking for the gotcha you lied here moment. Yeah
that's all it is. I don't see. I personally I don't this shit is I don't
want to hear about it no more it's over and done to me. That's how I feel unless
something new comes out and something like a game changer on either side,
then I don't care.
Let him do his time.
Let Meg move on with her life and keep it pushing, man.
I agree.
How hard of a time do y'all think
Mark Andrews is having right now?
Oh, I feel bad for him.
I feel bad for him.
And would y'all be able to deal with that?
No, it's a different deal.
I would definitely delete all the apps off my phone
You have to change my phone number. Mm-hmm. You probably don't come outside for like a week. A week?
You'll see him at OTAs
Like that's hard, man. Yeah
Then they pulling up the footage of it happening before
Same type of play two-point conversion. He dropped it against Pittsburgh like
Yeah, if he ain't dropped a ball since what, 2019?
Tell me what type of teammates y'all are.
I'm Mark Andrews.
I just dropped the game tying two point conversion.
What is y'all energy toward me
as I take the long walk back to the sideline?
I'm gonna give you a little hug.
I'm gonna hug him.
Yeah, I'm gonna give you a little hug.
You're gonna give me a hug?
You're gonna tell the truth? Yeah.
And that right there in that moment,
I might, we cool once I cool off,
but right there, nigga, no.
Wait, did he drop it like Deshaun Jackson
dropped it at the one yard line,
or did he just get knocked out of his hand?
I'm trying to figure this part out.
He dropped the pass.
Leave her alone.
Okay. Nobody knocked it on him. He just dropped part out. He dropped the pass. Leave it alone.
Nobody knocked it on him.
He just dropped the easy play.
He caught it, it was like this and he just dropped it.
Andy fumbled earlier in the game that set up the whole need for the two point conversion,
which was really the worst, more agree just play.
That was the biggest play of the game.
I think that in sports like dog, everybody throughout the duration of that game
We all fucked up and we all made mistakes. Yeah, so you can't count really
Like it's just a part of sports. I don't do that. I never believe in that. Yeah, we fucked up
We all made mistakes, but we got back we got to this point
We made it here drove down the field, scored a touchdown, all we need is the two,
ran the perfect play, the pass was right there,
it hit you in both hands, it's like Mark,
with the water bottle, and you dropped.
Niggas are hot in that moment.
It's his human emotion right there,
like dog, this was our trip to overtime,
they possibly win this game or whatever.
Yeah, of course it did. And the fucked The weather had nothing to do with the ice?
Yeah, of course it did.
Yeah, of course it did.
Freezing in the snow.
And the fucked up part is,
if you look at the Ravens page, they had him out,
you know, they put their little clips out
and shit before the game.
He's running with the little sleeveless shit on,
oh, the snow is no problem for Mark Andrews.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go.
That always seems to backfire, by the way.
Yeah, I'm the opposite of the teammate.
I wouldn't be mad in the game.
As a teammate, I was always the person
that would hug the guy, talk to him. After the game, I'm thinking opposite of the teammate. I wouldn't be mad in the game. As a teammate, I was always like the person that would like hug the guy, talk to him.
After the game, I'm thinking about that for the next,
till training camp.
I'm mad as shit and I probably wanna get him cut.
I wanna do harm to him.
But in that moment, I'm trying to win the game
and I'm trying to be a good teammate.
But it would eat away at me for the rest of the year.
And I know it's gonna eat away at him for the rest of the year.
It's the exact opposite for me.
Yeah, that's what I get it.
I get it.
Cause in the game, you can't be petty.
You can't be, we still at war and we still trying to win. Our game's over. The game is me. Yeah, that's what I get it. I get it. Cause in the game you can't be petty. You can't be, you got, we still at war
and we still trying to win.
Our game's over.
The game is over.
Yeah, that's fair enough.
But I'm still in war mode.
Like even in the locker room afterward, I'm still not like,
nigga, what the fuck?
I hate people that do that shit.
I hate that shit.
If I miss the game winning free throw,
I don't want nobody in the locker room like,
yo, what the fuck?
Like talk to me about that tomorrow.
But right then, nah, we still a family.
But you want to get them cut in six months.
Yeah, I'm not saying I'm right,
I'm doing the right behavior, I'm just saying
that's how I feel.
Gotcha.
Yeah, it's fucked up, but that's how I feel.
How you feel?
About which part?
Mark Andrew shit, like how would you feel?
If you're him.
If I'm Mark Andrew or if I'm his teammate? No, if you're his teammate feel if you're in Mark Andrews or from?
You'd likely be more can't you?
Shit, I feel horrible. I feel horrible
Again, I think a lot of people are watching that aren't football players
I mean the past was a little under thrown. It was thrown it on the run. It's a slippery ball
Like you going back. It's falling. I get it that I'm a pro, so I'm expected to make this catch.
I also don't think it was the simplest catch to make.
And listen, niggas fucked up during the game,
that's how we got in this position.
So as a team, we take it as a team.
That's how I feel.
We take it as a team.
For every missed block, every missed catch.
I'm talking about him like when he get away from his teammates and people that are in
that state of mind, when he just goes to the local bar or the Macy's or something.
I can see him having a hard time.
The gas station, all that shit.
You can't get gas no more.
You're public enemy number one.
You gotta get EV.
You gotta go light your car.
You gotta block your shit up.
Just drive to Jersey to get your gas.
They gonna hate your ass.
Yo, that's crazy.
Yeah, it's rough.
It's rough.
But it's a good thing. You gotta go. You gotta go. You gotta go. You gotta go. You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
You gotta go. You gotta go. You gotta go. You gotta go. You gotta go. I'm going to see some house, some big crazy Batman looking house in Connecticut this week.
Oh yeah? Really?
Is that the move Connecticut, you think?
No, I never thought about actually residing in Connecticut.
I just thought the house looked so amazing that you kind of just got to go
Old school?
It was built in 1990, but it looked like the design of it
and the structure of it.
I'll show it to you, but it just looks unbelievable.
So I'm just going to lay some eyes on it.
I don't know if I could live over there.
In Connecticut.
They gotta be some tax incentives.
I was gonna say, what are the taxes like in Connecticut?
Plenty of taxes incentives.
Plenty of taxes incentives.
WWE is in Connecticut, NBC is in Connecticut.
That's what I did in the spring and shit.
They're not as high as-
No way near as high as New Jersey.
They're not as high as we are.
No way near as high as New Jersey, number one.
And I ain't gonna hold you.
I just looked at whatever tax I had to pay to New Jersey,
like the New Jersey tax, like the-
State. Could you work here.
Yeah.
Nigga.
It's hard.
That's an understatement.
Yeah, like we're in the top three.
That's an understatement.
I can see why niggas getting the fuck out of here.
We in the top three.
Y'all better pay, y'all work here too.
That's why I hate this state, man.
Everything is so fucking expensive.
Taxes, property taxes, income to everything, man.
It's ridiculous.
Everything except gas.
New Jersey will get you the fuck up outta here.
I'm gonna keep it on.
I get it.
No, it's bad.
It'll get you outta here, yeah.
Why we do this and stay here?
Not to localize.
Nah, because you...
Why we don't stand up for ourselves?
For real, why we don't move somewhere else,
just go live in a house with our families, our kids,
find an island.
The fear of the unknown.
You know what you know.
True.
It's the fear of the unknown.
Miss your little sandwich spots and shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like you know don't walk down that block.
Or you know the niggas down there,
so you can walk down that block.
Like it's just literally the fear of the unknown.
I don't think it's that.
Because of the pattern.
A lot of times it's just like,
I told y'all when I moved out of the state,
you don't know what it's like living,
it's not even a fear of it, it's just you have,
this is your norm.
Yeah.
Like.
You have no community set up anywhere else.
Right, you see, not, I'm talking about
in terms of what we pay here,
like until I moved out of New Jersey,
I didn't even realize I was paying high rent.
Because I'm so used to it, this is just the norm.
So a lot of the shit we pay for here,
you might hear it's hot, you have been other places.
No, I'm just saying not now,
because the internet is more prevalent.
Anybody is different when you're actually in it though.
They showing houses in Texas for 280 grand, 300 grand,
the houses look like a Batman house.
So if you was curious, you would be like,
where I could get that for that?
I'm going.
They got shit that's in Newark
that they showing apartments
and you see the prices like whoa,
then you realize where it's at.
All them shit's high.
I'm talking about in terms of the area.
It's still ain't as high as the area.
So if you see some of them houses
and then you go look, oh wait,
this is fucking an hour outside of whatever. Yeah, I don't really believe the little
Instagram. Yeah, that shit sounds like fools gold. Yeah, that's why I hate
Jersey. That's literally why I hate this place because I got all the burden and
I don't get none of the community. Like I don't know nobody. I don't know these
hoods. Couldn't go to Disney on ice. Don't get invited to Disney or the kings.
Nigga, I'm about to have my pitch up in Kings, man,
as much as I mean.
You gotta go, no, no, not Uber.
It's something about Mark.
Look, look, pull up and walk inside.
Yeah.
You don't do that.
But you're gonna have a voice note on the wall.
Yo, let me get a number seven.
What are you talking about?
They know who I am when I call, so all I gotta do
is go up in there.
I'm good, man.
I'm good.
I just joined the basketball league in Jersey
just to find, like, people, because I don't know nobody. Nigga, I'm good. I'm good. I just joined the basketball league in Jersey just to find people, because I don't know nobody.
Nigga, I've invited you out 17 times.
You have, you're the only person that.
Yeah, but the ish invite is you outside.
That's not true.
It'll be like 10 p.m.
Don't do that.
But he's respecting you.
He's respecting your space.
Our techs' mark can be like,
yo, what's up, what you doing?
Yo, I'm out.
What are you doing when? what are you doing today?
Don't listen to him. It's five o'clock. This is a be like, yo, I'm in the conference in Cleveland and tomorrow
I go to Philly. That's the next day. I gotta go to Utah and then
He tried to act booked in busy
But if you hit me on a Wednesday say what are you doing Friday? I was gonna say I can make that happen
I don't know what I'm doing Friday, and that's the difference between our way to making a plan
I don't know if he doesn't plan but not he does he planned to go to fucking Malcolm on ice when we had the goddamn
And what he planned
My girl bought the tickets.
What I'm saying is, if I hit my man on a Friday night
and be like, yo, what you doing?
It's five o'clock.
And he say, yo, I'm in Utah.
What the fuck I'm supposed to do?
Mark, listen, you gotta remember,
even though he makes it look good
with all those black, white power shit he got going on,
like shit in the house, it's a structure, nigga.
He can only get out.
He don't know in real time. Oh, when he out, he out. Hey, yo, I'm about to shit, in the house, it's a structure, nigga. He can only get out. He don't know in real time.
Oh, when he out, he out.
Yeah, yo, I'm about to take the garbage out.
I'm about to bring it to the actual.
Why are you taking the garbage out?
You should have new clothes on.
That's funny, son.
Yeah, I'm about to go outside.
No, no.
This, you know what I'm saying?
It's hilarious.
This is it with that shit.
OK, somebody here seems like they need our help.
OK, what's going on?
Part of the show.
Charles.
What's up, Charles?
What's up, Charles?
Chuck.
Hey, JBP.
What's happening?
Hey, buddy.
I've been a fan of the show for years,
and I had a life change that I could use some advice on.
I am 27, and I recently became a first-time dad to a baby girl.
Girl dad. Congratulations. I had always said I recently became a first-time dad to a baby girl. Girl dad. Congratulations.
I had always said I wanted a boy because raising a boy was more in my comfort zone.
But unlike Joe, I don't make men.
You goddamn right.
You're pansy.
Me and my girl, who are living together and engaged,
often have conversations about differences between raising a girl versus
raising a boy.
She feels that our daughter should be able to go out and experience the world, but my
views on the differences between boys and girls has me more reserved with what I am
willing for my daughter to get involved in.
I've spent some time outside, so I know what it's like out there for young girls with
friendships,
dating, the workplace, etc.
I also know what it's like to be a young man that can move outside.
Speaking to the girl dads out there, Ice, Ish, Mark, Flip, Corey, bitch ass.
And Joe, just for a parent perspective, what approaches do you guys take to raising your daughters if you have thought about this at all?
How can I allow my daughter to see the world without seeing the world?
Joe and Mel can add something to this from Joe's general parent perspective and Mel having grown up without a dad
I'm not from being a girl
Drive by Jesus I'm not from being a girl. Holy shit. Oh shit. Damn. How would you read that, yo?
Drive-by, Jesus.
Fuck Chuck.
Y'all carry on.
I don't think he was trying to be a dick.
Okay.
Well, it read dick.
It read Richard.
It read my shit.
It read Richard.
I didn't grow up without my father, Chuck.
Go on.
I'm not sure if you guys have already covered this.
I know there have been parenting talks in the pod before.
Appreciate any advice
and keep the energy high throughout 2025.
Thanks.
Chuck, just throw a fucking chastity belt on her
because that's what it fucking sounds like you want to do.
Lock that shit up until she's 30.
Chuck, like, my daughter turns five next week
and my thing with her is communication.
Like I have even now, my daughter's not afraid
to tell me some shit, like we talk.
She's texting all, well she's not with me.
So I think you just need to have that openness
so that your child isn't afraid of you. Your child isn't afraid to talk to you. Your child isn't afraid to let you know
what's going on because kids are sneaky. They're going to do shit. So you can't protect them
from the world. Yeah, you really can't agree. I learned too late. Chuck. I learned too late, man. Well, not too late, but my daughter is about to be 16. And, you know, now of...
Now, you know, I try to have open communication,
but I realized that, you know, like, I agree with you,
you can't protect them from the world,
but I don't play that shit, nigga.
Look, nigga, I'm gonna try my best.
I'm gonna go down and swing.
I got the old school in me, nigga.
I got Aunt Jemima in me, nigga.
I'm not going down like that.
Yeah, look, when it comes to my daughter,
listen, there's certain rules and regulations
that I put out there and that I expected to follow.
Like what?
Following rules in the house.
I mean, what's different for your daughter
than your son and me?
It's a trap.
No, it's not.
I can say it.
It's totally a trap. It's a trap. And me saying it not. I can say it. It's totally a trap.
And me saying it, it's still not going to change the outcome.
Well, it's not going to change the outcome.
It is a trap.
You don't think there should be any difference, Mark?
Come on, I'll feed into it.
I think there should be differences.
Like what?
So everybody should be treated equally equally but everybody's not the same
So there are things that I have to think about specific for girls that I don't think about for boys
But I try my I always try my best to think about like am I doing this because it's the safest choice
Am I doing this just because she's a girl?
Like what is both for me? I give you an example. So
My daughter when she was living with me would would have to walk, she would have to walk
three or four blocks to get to the house.
There's a lot of sexual predators in the block.
If she were a boy, I would let her walk the four blocks.
Because I would feel safe that my son could walk
the four blocks without harm.
I don't feel that she could walk those four blocks.
So I'm treating her differently,
but not because I actually don't think it's safe.
That's kind of shit I'm talking about.
So you didn't clear the whole block?
That's what they were saying. But you know that So. You didn't clear the whole block? They didn't.
Did you know that sexual predators like boys
as well as girls too, right?
Yeah, but typically the bridge where I was living
in Germantown, they weren't jumping boys,
they were jumping girls.
You know what I mean?
It just wasn't a thing.
And I feel like I like my son's chance to defend himself.
Your name ain't Karen.
Okay, okay.
Let me say something real quick,
because I just thought of something.
When you're a strict parent, you tend to protect the girls more.
Because the girls, if you're strict, the girls will go outside and look for that type of
whatever man, predatory men out there would do, they would look for that in a man.
I can't really explain it, it's crazy.
But if you're a strict parent,
you have to over protect your daughter.
To me.
I think y'all do that.
Nigga, you can't just say that.
Protect your daughters, yo.
Stop, man.
If you be doing that shit,
and that's how I be messing up,
and they'll flip you sounding stupid
because you cut off me and shit, stop.
But I wasn't the only guy.
God will take your daughter,
I only go for my son is fine, nigga, they can do it.
Nico could do running around,
I'm pretty sure he can't do it because I said so.
And see, that's the problem with me.
But I think when Mark said,
just feeds into everybody's point,
he said, yo, I'm parenting my daughter
and my son differently based on the fear.
Yeah, he keep doing it, he agrees,
and then he tries to act like he ain't agreeing.
I never said I didn't disagree,
all I did was ask, do you treat them differently?
It was just a question, I didn't say I disagreed at all. I didn't give a position.
Y'all just assumed that I was gonna be different than y'all on this and and but there are things that we probably do differ for example
I wouldn't tell my son that he could have a boyfriend slash girlfriend
at a different age than my daughter. You know what I'm saying?
Like I would say if the age is 16, the age is 16, I don't care who you are.
If you can go to the party as a boy, you can go to the party as a girl.
There are some things though, again, in terms of safety that I would be thinking about.
And it changes how you parent each based on just that fear. So if I'm scared of my son
going, I'm not scared of my son going on a date with a girl at 16. I'm fearful that my
16 year old daughter is going on a date with a boy.
So it's gonna change how I'm parenting
each particular situation.
And not just that, knowing your kid.
If you got a kid that's easily impressionable
or follow the leader type, you know you gonna have
to be on them about certain shit.
They succumb to peer pressure easier.
Then you have other kids that stand in their shit
and I could kinda let them, I know he's gonna do his thing.
We frontin' you.
I'm not frontin' you.
Not you.
Nigga, we scared for our daughters
cause we know how we was when we was young.
Exactly.
And that's what I try to police on myself.
That's it, like yo fam, we know how we were,
we know what we was out here doin',
we know what our homeboys was doin',
we know what locker room talk is like,
we know what studio talk is like,
you don't want your daughter being the subject
of the locker room talk.
And see, I know how the girls that-
She can just date one guy and she'll still be the,
she can still be the talk of the locker room.
And that's the kind of stuff I try to tell.
And if you're not monitoring your son properly,
then you are inflicting that same harm
on multiple people's daughters.
Yep.
True, that makes sense.
And that's the kind of shit I'm,
that's the kind of shit I'm always trying to say to myself,
am I doing this for the right reason?
There's no perfect way to parent,
but that's the shit I think about.
For example, like sex, right?
A lot of times we tell, you know,
our son's 15, 16, having sex and nobody's trippin',
the girl's like, you gotta protect your virginity,
you gotta save your virginity.
Even calling it virginity is a whole thing, right?
And I don't want her to feel like it's that high stakes.
Wait, is it calling the virgin?
What?
That's the whole other conversation.
But the idea that, because we typically
don't do that for women.
Like there's this thing that you have that once you lose it,
you have less value anymore.
Right?
You're not clean anymore.
You're not pure anymore.
Nobody's ever talking about a boy's virginity.
Right.
He's a virgin.
Right?
I mean, we use it to tease each other.
But in general, like it's a thing that women have that they
can lose. So's I'm answering Chuck
So I'm saying like don't make you don't make your daughter feel like sex is the highest stakes thing in the world that if she does
It she's fucked up for life because if she if she fucks the wrong dude, I had sex with the wrong dudes
early
You can make other choices later
But if you feel like it was so high stick you already lost it
It's fucked up is over
Those are the kind of things you can do to make your daughter feel different
And so I always tried to have those conversations with like look wait to have sex because it's not healthy
It's not a good choice. You are not capable of having sex at a young age you you
Was that funny?
Because I know my I know my child's emotional well-being like you can't do it. Other people's kids, some of them can't.
I could, it wasn't a problem for me,
but I know other people couldn't.
So like I said-
You know that journalist thing where you can't tell
when people are falling asleep during the book?
Can y'all shut the fuck up?
All right, I'll leave it alone.
God damn it.
And one more person needs our help.
We don't have 40 minutes to help Joe.
All right
curiosity
Hey you guys
Hey, that's the person's name
That's what they sent it. Oh
So I've been on and off with this guy for five years never beneficial, but in both of our brains
You couldn't tell us that we weren't every time we try to make
Every time we try to make things work it seems to never work out
The last time we got into a really bad fight where he told me to, and I quote, die like my mother.
Jesus.
Rest in peace.
Holy fuck.
Holy shit.
My God.
Yo, don't laugh.
Don't laugh.
That's wild.
Good.
You can't do that, you can't laugh, that hurts.
The person's hurt.
I'm laughing at Mel laughing.
Die like your mother is crazy.
Crazy. Yeah, that's the laugh, because that at Mel laughing. Die like your mother is crazy.
Crazy.
Yeah, that's the laugh,
because that is fucking insane.
Respect, man.
You still talk to him after that?
That's why I'm waiting to hear it.
Salute.
RIP to her.
Somehow, it says that right here.
I'm reading it still.
You're making trouble.
It's not really uncommon nowadays, to be honest with you.
Y'all get up here and act like wild shit
don't get said during the fight.
Shut the fuck up.
Wild shit get said during the fight.
Cool. There's got to be like, there's a deal breaker.
Like there's something that somebody says where it's crossing the fucking line
and that's the end. And personally for me, that would be the end.
That would be my end. That would be the end.
Is it financial abuse?
Bitch, keep reading.
For real, do you? Keep reading.
I'm asking because you don't have a home to go to.
We're not talking.
Do you have a home?
OK, she has not expressed that, OK?
This is on again, off again.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say
they don't live together since they can't get a fucking
relationship together.
So let's go on.
RIP, mom.
Somehow I am still not 100% over him and I cannot hate him.
I told myself I will never talk to him again,
but deep down inside, I cannot help
but to think this was my person.
See, y'all be doing all that repping for women shit.
That's a person y'all, tell her how to fuck it.
She don't know what the.
Keep going.
Is that the end?
Yo, yo shit.
Don't be, don't say dull.
How do you get over the delusion of love?
Or in my case,
maybe a twin flame.
Go to fucking therapy. Thanks.
And happy new year.
Let's start out with Mel for this segment.
Go to therapy and
read up on what self esteem is because
you lack it.
Oh that's helpful to the person that, wow.
Yes, it's fucking, it's helpful.
This is tough love.
That is what I'm saying.
Go to therapy, discover what self-esteem is
because you don't have it and you are slightly delusional.
I thought you don't believe in tough love, man.
When did I ever say that?
Oh, maybe it's pertaining to children.
She'd rather walk you down.
Okay, maybe you're subject, okay, I got it.
Cause I could've sworn you said tough love
when I was told my tough love
pretending kids at a point you said that tough love is not good. Oh yeah if we're talking about children
that's completely different. This is an adult. Got it okay. Yeah this is an adult. So you don't care that that's a person? I don't
necessarily think that that is her person. I don't know. I'm not in their fucking illusions. Do y'all think that somebody's person can't say something inappropriate in the heat of an argument?
No.
No, that's not what I think. I think that your per- first of all, I don't believe in your person.
Like there's this magical person in Skyland. This shit is what you make of it. You got ten persons.
Seven billion people on the fucking planet. You have a few persons.
And some of them ain't gonna talk about your dead body.
I mean, if y'all are fast.
Look, all I'm saying is, you can say hurtful shit,
your person can do fucked up shit.
If that was the only thing that person said,
I wouldn't be like, that's not your person.
But if y'all been together all this time,
y'all not official, y'all never name it,
and when you get in fights, they say crazy shit like that,
maybe it's time to move on.
That's all I'm saying.
It doesn't sound like a healthy relationship.
Hey girl, that's, go grab your daughter and hug her.
Word.
But we always want to tell motherfuckers to move on
and but we be putting up with bullshit ourselves
or doing bullshit.
I stay out of, listen.
Nigga on land, man, her daughter was getting hugs from dad,
she still was fucking the quarterback.
Bruh.
Look what her mom was giving her.
In the back of the pickup truck.
Look what advice her mom was giving her.
She was living with her mom most of the time. Your hug ain't gonna stop her from getting slid In the back of the pickup truck. She was living with her mom most of the time.
Your hug ain't gonna stop her from getting slid in the back of a pickup truck.
Y'all up here lying.
Yeah.
Niggas is not up here lying, Joe.
Niggas is not up here lying.
I'm being quiet.
That screams daddy issues right there.
That does sound like daddy issues.
That screams that shit.
She's searching for it with this nigga.
I was saying that earlier.
That's not necessarily true.
Okay.
It could be true. I'm not saying that it can't be true, but everybody's been in
love in this room before. Right? Yeah. Your logic and all of this theoretical bullshit
runs out the door when you are in love with somebody. So all of this playbook shit that
we talk about in relationships and therapy and all that shit, that shit don't matter when the
nigga is in love with, when you're in love with somebody,
they say mean shit, they do mean shit,
and you go back to them.
Hey Ish, you know what else though?
That's why they need to go to water in their face.
When they have them daddy issues,
they don't have that love, I said that's a possibility.
You're putting too much shit on daddy.
No, I said it's a possibility
that they could have daddy issues.
But there are people that don't have them and they fall for the banana in a fucking tailpipe
You can yeah, you can that's what I'm saying. Absolutely. You could not have daddy issues and say something in the heat of an argument that you didn't mean
This ain't just saying something in the heat of an argument though. That's just one little piece of this
You could not have daddy issues and that nigga couldn't own your soul. That girl can't own your soul.
I have been on and off to this nigga for five years. We've never put a title on it.
That's the shit I'm talking about.
She is missing a lot of shit here.
True.
That's the shit I'm talking about.
You don't get to fall in love.
You missed a lot of shit on the way to falling in love.
She's like a yo-yo.
She's like a yo-yo.
That's the shit I'm saying.
I know, we started laughing when she first said
the five year shit.
I started laughing.
That was the best laugh.
My thought was, where's your father?
My nigga, but you could be in love with somebody
and totally be doing goofy, dumb ass shit. You looking at yourself in the mirror, That was my thought was where's your father my nigga, but you could be in love with somebody and absolutely totally
Goofy dumbass shit you looking at yourself in the mirror
No one is my stupid ass shit and continue to do it that is that don't mean that part is a fucking help
Or you didn't have a daddy or you didn't have nothing you in love with him
I'm letting ice get his shit off cuz I don't think the ice got no fucking
Parent issues not seeing him fucking string a girl on for four years
and no title, anybody did that.
I don't think that that necessarily speaks to daddy issues.
The girl had the daddy issues.
Look, he said the girls got the daddy issues.
They let him do it.
You trying to put it on ice?
You're kidding me.
Then we knew it.
We all up here have fucked with girls with daddy issues.
That's true.
No, we was getting it off on them.
They were easier to yo-yo.
You get yo-yo.
I didn't know, I thought they had daddy issues.
But I gotta say though, I've been pretty shitty.
I told you, I never did that Ice.
I know, I know, I know.
I ain't no, I ain't no.
I know, I know, I know, I know.
I've done it, I've done it.
Not them, not them.
Me too, nigga.
Me too, I agree with you.
It's terrible, Ice.
You know a girl don't have a father,
you could just get some shit off
that you wouldn't get.
What'd you think about the adopted bitches?
Oh my God.
You get some shit off with them too.
I'm asking a question. How adopted are they?
Like we talking foster care,
cause that, no no, this is what I'm saying.
Yo Mark, the shit that they seen,
you get a lot of shit over there.
That's what I'm saying.
They slept in bucks.
That's what I'm saying.
Stay down with whatever.
And I see them get the worst treatment.
You get your own room. I'm not being funny, I'm saying they get the worst home. And I see them get the worst treatment. You get your own room.
I'm not being funny, I'm saying they get the worst treatment.
I didn't say that.
My fault.
They get their own room at my house.
Oh, yes.
You know how that's.
Oh, shit, you can get paid for sheltering them niggas.
Oh, man.
You get a check.
Niggas get mad checks.
You know Melon, this will sit well with our sister Melon.
My home girl.
Wait, what you talking about?
She don't sit well with our sister. Stop My home girl. Wait, what you talking about?
She don't sit well with our sister.
Stop, stop.
Go ahead Mel, say what you got to say for the ladies
at the end of this forsythia.
I said what I had to say.
If you, she's not too happy about that forsythia.
You'll be knowing from the rip she ain't got her dad.
This telltale sounds.
Yo, she's like, it's so foolish.
Two hours.
If you do shit.
If you.
Two hours? What the fuck are you talking about? If you do sticking the Hennessy bottle in their ass
hole.
That was a tell.
Dead giveaway.
If you do shit right in front of them and you can get the shit off like, oh, that wasn't
like that.
Mel, go to Starbucks while we talk about it then.
She's mad at it. I'm not. Listen, Mel, go to Starbucks while we talk about it then. So she's mad at it.
I'm not.
She's got to protect the women.
No, I'm processing.
If she's judging.
But I think-
Yo, wait, hold up real quick, Mark,
because with all those educational shit,
I'm going to be ignorant for a little longer.
You know my problem with y'all talking about the girls
that have daddy issues and didn't come up with a dad
and all of that valid, fair point.
Nigga, what the fuck dad?
My nigga's getting his shit off with the dad
at the same house.
Shit, shit, I'm living in a house, dad did it.
He bought the two family, put her in the basement.
Nigga, got her!
I still got her.
It's the time for all your great fathering.
Ooh, she getting dropped off at 5 a.m.
Sucking it off, spitting in the sink
of the basement you bought, nigga.
What are y'all talking about?
Sorry, sorry.
There's ninjas out there that get around that.
That's why the whole season at Land Man,
he was fucking that little football player up.
Niggas, South Orange and Maplelington Maplewood. Catch all dads.
Yeah, it be girls that come from good,
daddy, households.
Still get busy.
I'm not talking about households.
That's when the household is too bad.
I'm the man when I walk in that house.
Look, that's the household too quick.
It's quality households, I was in there like this.
Yeah.
I'm not talking to daddy like,
sit with that guy, shut the fuck up, dad.
I'm leaving with him.
No, don't ever be talking to dad like that.
Maybe they got with her. No
No, sir Lion and it was lying saying that they gonna spend the night at Kim's house district dad
It was dipping out of Kim door cuz Kim dad might not have been the greatest or Kim mom might not have been the greatest
It was popping off
I'm talking about looking for love going for the bullshit. I'm not talking about the holes
Thank you for that, I don't know that I know
Sneaky being a hoe is not the one that's out here running searching for love in any man or whoever just shows her some attention I'm not getting
Mark was a genius one too
He walked in the house nigga nigga, dad or no dad,
nigga, mom get his shit off.
He'll talk to the parents to let the girl come over, right?
Me too.
I wasn't that kid, but I wasn't that guy.
I'm not about to do this.
Y'all ain't doing this.
There's nothing to me.
A lot of y'all can feel the pain.
There's nothing to fight about.
Did y'all have any advice for her, by the way?
Did y'all have advice?
She need therapy.
I think walk away from this relationship.
Yeah.
It's not a relationship.
Right.
It is a relationship.
Whatever this is, it ain't healthy.
It's a relationship.
I don't think it's the healthiest,
but I think communication is pivotal.
Oh my God, enough of this educational podcast bullshit.
Are we giving him advice or not?
Enough, shut the fuck up.
You all educated him, yo.
What's your advice? What's educated him. What's your advice?
You give some advice.
You are a woman that he comes to for his convenience.
Period. You're a doormat.
I got a problem with that too.
That's not true.
Y'all on these moral high grounds act like some of these situation shits don't serve you.
And then when y'all get on your fucking soldiers, shut the fuck up.
But even if it serves you,
Go get your person. If it serves you, it doesn't change the fact of what it is
But that's not hold on he could be her person, but that's not that's not necessarily mean that she's his person
That ain't your person exactly
He's my person, but I'm not his
That ain't your person.
You think, all right, she gonna listen to that.
She gonna listen to that, that'll stop her.
Hey, get outta there.
And you a good dad.
Hey, get outta there.
I'm not saying that.
And niggas is bugging.
My nigga, he could find just as much solace in Shorty
as she finds in him.
Y'all, I'm honest.
I've had plenty of those situations.
I've had situations where it's casual
or where the person wanted more than I wanted and it was situation shit for me, they weren't in love all. I'm not saying I've never been of those situations. I've had situations where it's casual or where the person wanted more than I wanted
and it was situation shit for me, they wouldn't love all that.
I'm not saying I've never been in those situations.
Don't worry, we talk about it in the 12 years, 13 years.
Talk about it again with all y'all good fathering asses.
I mean, my kids has grown, my daughter's grown,
I've watched it happen.
You know what I mean?
I've watched them pick bad dudes,
I've watched them pick good dudes.
And like you said, the communication is important
because I've been at least able to talk to them about that shit
Did they listen to me fuck? No, they don't have to there's no guarantee. They're gonna listen. They didn't listen ever but
But it would have been worse if I hadn't been there
That's all I'm saying. All right. Thank you for that
God damn it.
Oh, that right there is exactly why I left school.
Why you just gonna learn on reading rainbow?
That ain't like enough of somebody up there
trying to educate me for too long and I can't move around.
I can't sit still with all of this bullshit
y'all are talking about.
I got a sleeper.
I got a sleeper somewhere.
All right, rest in peace, PNB Rock.
I'm going PNB DJ Luke Nasty.
This record is called High. High PnB, rock on up, be in them killings
Yuh, yuh, yuh
Girl, I love you and we
Do it, turn you on, shawty, tell me if I'm wrong
I can see it in your eyes, oh yeah
That you feelin' my pulse, baby, you ain't gotta lie
I've been waitin' all day to get
With you, shawty, you don't do my boo
I got all this weed for you, girl
Let's get
Tonight, shawty, let's get high, shawty
I just got your text, let's say what you hate
You had a lonely day, I got some weed for you, stress
Bought the white shop and get dressed, send me your address
And I'll be on my way, let's fuckin' roll up some pants
I'll pull up to your face, see that smile on your face
Show me just how much you miss me, come take off all this bag
Yo, God, you know you on key
With me, shawty, I got what you need
Me bag was an Halloween, I can't wait to get
With you, girl, with you, girl
You should know, you should know
I can't put you on another
So let's watch, shorty
Let's get hot, shorty
Cause, girl, I love it when we
Do it tell you on, shorty
Tell me if I'm on
I can see it in your eyes when you That you feelin' my vibes, baby You ain't gotta lie, I been waitin' all day to get
With you, Shawty, you know you my boo I got all this sweet for you, girl
Let's get
Tonight, Shawty Let's get high, Shawty
We run around with the top bag Smokin' on this I-Pack
My baby, she exotic exotic But together we so toxic
It's me you and Mary Jane This thing will never change
We take off like a plane Then we go MI
And I love it when we
Cause I know that at least till you getting naked
You pull out my wood and then you face it
This the type of shit you can't replace it
And I love it when we
Not smoking fucks and chill
Took your love, you fells
I love it when we both
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, I just wanna get high, yeah, high
Just wanna get high, yeah, high Just wanna get high, high, yeah, high, high Just wanna get high, high, yeah, high, high
Just wanna get high, high, high, high, high
I just wanna get high with you
I just wanna get high with you
Hope nothing just flies
I just wanna get high with you
I just wanna come fly with you
Hold up and get high with you
Hold up and get high with you
Hold up and get high with you Rest in peace, PNB, that was dope Rest in peace, PNB. That was dope. Rest in peace, PNB. I love what happened when rappers found that sample.
Yeah.
Love what happens when rappers listen to music.
They bodied that flip too.
Yeah, no, it's fine.
All right, I'm going to go to Brooklyn with this one.
This is First Quarter by Ryan Witherspoon. 1090 ahead, Jackson here Know the fuck going on Talk my shit
Yeah
Uh, uh, uh, uh
I caught a wave and I ain't going backwards
Looking for results, nigga, I'm number four and after
About to be my greatest chapter
Out in Brooklyn like King Tut
I really snatch your Cleopatra, keep her close
Put your girl up in that ghost
You won't ever see her, nigga
Look up at the stars and now she's talkin' bout
She dreamin' bigger, like for me
Life that I'm livin' it could bring jealousy
I'm the chosen one so you better pray for my enemies
Always in the back of the back like I'm on MMG
You can take a look at my life and get the game for free
Chef Curry, 30 on my wrist, come get the recipe
Catch me at the garden, nigga, I could trip the referee
And that's the subtle flexes, sudden text your nexus
I haven't seen her for a while, I think she moved to Texas
I just seen her latest pictures, she still wear the necklace And that is the first quarter freestyle by Ryan Witherspoon.
So real quick.
Yeah, a little quick, quick joint.
I'm going to Pittsburgh rest in peace Mac Miller.
This is Rick's piano.
Josh.
Yes. Knock knock. I'm going to Pittsburgh rest in peace Mac Miller this is Rick's piano Uh Josh?
Yes?
Knock knock
Who's there?
Rick Rubin
Rick Rubin who?
Rick Rubin's piano
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy y up All of y'all are still bitches but
The smell just in place of your makeup The best is yet to come
ET's not dead, just a little bit faded Please don't give me any credit, that's how people get jaded
Please don't nod your head, and please don't tell me I made it
Cause people start to get worse, once they think they the greatest
The best is yet to come
This is, yeah, yeah, yeah
I told her it'd get better soon, I probably shoulda told her when she was in a better
mood She lookin' at me like anyone except for you
I had to go to California, she wish that I never moved
Said, baby, the best is yet to come
Yeah, this is the end I wonder if the blind mice even wanna see
I wonder if the deaf father ever hear his
daughter scream Is there a heaven?
Can you see the God in me?
I don't know, probably But for now we'll keep waiting
Cause Divas is yet to come
Yeah, the best is yet to come
I wonder if the truth come with a song
And if it do, will we ever get to sing along?
Spent her paycheck on that lingerie, she scared to put it on
She never let her boyfriend see her in a thong but
The best is yet to come
The best is yet to come
I shot myself on my birthday, fell into the ocean
Listened to their voices, I was lost in the commotion
None of us were chosen, I forgive them for their ignorance
But what's a man gotta do for a little bliss?
Fuck the future!
This is it, it's yet to come
The best is yet to come What is this feel like?
What is, what is this feel like?
Oh, oh my god
What is this feel like?
I wonder what is this feel like?
Oh, oh my god
What is this feel like?
What is, what is this feel like?
What is, what is this feel like?
What is
What is this feel like? What is, what is this you like? What is this you like? What is this you like?
What is this you like?
What is what is this you like?
Oh my god
What is this you like?
What is what is this you like?
Oh my my god
What is this you like?
What is what is this you like?
Oh my god
Oh my god What is just you like? What is just you like? Oh, I'm gone
Rest in peace Mac Miller, that is Rick's piano off his new album Balloonerism
Rest in peace
Which is out now
Biggish
I'm going to a young lady's name is Elena and the song is called Golden
and the song is called Golden. Saturation or love, come and get it Rhymes on your body and you know Down on your knees, tell me your name and your reasons
I wanna see you, got you on the more when you're leaving in the morning
Causing commotion, I picked you when you walked in
Got what you need, yeah So why won't you, baby
Come a little closer, oh it's nice to meet ya
Got me feeling higher
Got that perfect face to be near
I know how to treat ya
Come and get that golden love
So golden, I like so golden
Come and hold on, get that golden love, yeah
So golden, dreamin' so golden
Dreamin' so golden
Try high-gassin' Try, how you guessing?
Hate to know when I lose
Got me going one touch, just wait, get it
Honey's thicker with soul than you know
Yeah, I ain't no snitch, yeah
Body a playground with me, babe
I wanna feel you
Got you in the mood when you're leaving in the morning
You're like a sunrise I can see your shine with closed eyes
Got what I need yeah So why won't you baby
Come a little closer Oh it's nice to meet ya
Got me feeling higher It's nice to meet ya, got me feelin' higher
Got that perfect face to be near
I know how to treat ya
Come and get that golden love
So golden
I'm like so golden
Got my heart won't break
Get that golden love
So golden Dreamin' so golden So golden But I'm cold and cold and so cold and So cold and so cold and cold and
You're so cold and cold
I love my life so cold and
So cold and cold and so cold and So golden, so golden, so golden
That is Golden by Elena.
A vibe.
Big mouth. bill. Mine is called Rip Chord by Greek. I thought I'd take it out on you What you wish you got to say love, thought I'd told you
Please don't come every day, I, there'll be
I can't hold back my words, I pray that I'll just get to say it all
I hope I do, life goes fast when you're not around
Hope she'll make a sound, let you go, she's my song
And mellow, couldn't put a curse on her Life goes fast but you're not a pound Don't you make a sound that you got your car So I saw her lying below
Couldn't put a cruise on her
But I
Bet I wouldn't fucking shit for a lay-up
Falling down my nose
Watch me go, watch me burn away
I need money for the day, yeah, yeah
I need a place like yours
I need a car like that
So let's make what's yours, sell me by the time
I can't do nothing, I can't do nothing, I can't do nothing, I can't do nothing
I can't run away from everybody
Watch me go like fucking two-house
Could I ever love you if you love me when it's happening
However could I let you go
However would I let you win
I'm sure I spent the time away, I know I spent my time today
I'm searching for you I found what you need I found what you need I probably hold me down
My feet touch the way too long, that ain't even saving time
I bet you been fucking around way too much these days
Can't get enough these days
I'm from where you been, tryna put you out of that place
If you don't work, you don't need me, I can't wait on you
I can't even wait on me, I can't do this shit for free
I just do this shit for free I just do this shit for me I just do this shit for me I just do this shit for me
I just do this shit for me
That is ripcord by Greek. I fuck with that.
Who was that?
Greek.
No, whose sleeper was that?
Valley.
Come on.
A few things.
Yeah, you're gonna fix your face up when I'm talking to you now.
You don't have to be the fence. Yeah, you go fix your face up when I'm talking to you now.
I'm going to have to be defensive.
I'm starting with some dab.
I'm starting with all nice things to say.
Okay.
Mel, have you seen the graphic of you in the pink onesie dunking on everybody that they
said is, Mel, once you get to aux cord, have you seen that?
You did, because you commented on it.
You did.
No, I retweeted it actually.
You retweeted it and left a little comment.
Kiki.
I laughed.
I didn't know what it was,
I had no idea what it was about though.
No, don't be knowing none of the slang or nothing.
They said when you get to aux, that's what you do.
You be dunking on people.
Which leads to my next question.
Ish.
Ish.
Look at me, my brother.
Do you feel any way about Mel coming for your sleeper title this year?
No.
Do you recognize that she is attempting to come for your sleeper title?
No.
You don't recognize it?
I don't.
That's why you my man forever, they can't tell me nothing about you.
You don't even see that.
He don't feel it.
For real, seriously.
Serious question.
You don't feel nothing?
You don't feel heat?
Do you feel like you're coming for the Sleeber title?
No.
No.
I think that collectively we all have such a high appreciation for music that this is
the way that we get to express it.
But one person got the Sleeber title by the fans and that was Ish for last year.
Okay.
It seemed like you trying to break a back to back run
for him.
I really.
You going hard this year with the sleepers.
No.
You killing shit.
No.
Thank you, I appreciate that.
I appreciate that.
That joint right there,
I'm gonna throw that on his sonos.
Hey, that joint right there, I'm turning all the sonos Hey, that's that joy right there
I'm turning all the sonos on in the crib with that come on. You hear me now?
It was um all right one more question for the room. It's been a rather serious pod. It's good
I could tell when mark get a adderall in the system
It's fine. I think it just get the talk of the time. I don't know
Well, no, I think the dad's be good. And I'm thinking about Donald Trump.
Ish.
Actually, not Ish, the rest of the room.
A few weeks ago, I told y'all I was going to go get the count
on how many times Ish has said my mans.
Oh, I'm dying for this stat.
In the last year.
I'm dying for this stat.
The numbers are in.
Oh, shit. The numbers are in oh shit the numbers are in
So my distinguished cast how many bands would anyone like to bet on the amount of times?
Is has said my man
In the past in the calendar year calendar
Year
675 I got a no all right we got a
675 from parks 12 we got a 675 from Parks.
312.
We have a 312 from Ice.
240.
We have a 240 from Mark.
432.
We have a 432 from Mel.
Flip is not here at the moment.
You said 700 plus?
Ish can get a guess on his own shit, of you might know. Hello discount page. You know, okay
Cory doesn't know
That's a 432. No, these are just episodes. Okay, just regular episodes. Just me. I'm keeping my no
Hold on. Let me change your break main episodes. Okay, then I'm gonna go
I'm gonna go
175 I'm gonna go 175.
Anyone else?
I'm gonna lower my audio.
My audio's based on Patreon too.
I'm at 300, 312.
I'm gonna drop to 200.
Yeah, if it's only just main pods then.
I'm dropping to 200.
He's got more bands on Patreon.
I'm keeping my number.
265.
What's your number? 317. I said 312. I'm keeping my number. 265. What's your number?
317.
I said 312.
I'm gonna put 265 of it, it's just main pods.
You ready?
Plus 400.
You ready?
Yeah.
Of course.
Yeah, let's go.
In the past calendar year.
Grand ma, oh no, Flip is here.
Flip, let's get a guess.
Let's get a guess from you.
How many times I said my man to the main pod?
In the past calendar year, how many times has Ish said
main pod?
My man's.
Main pod.
On the main pod.
Main pod only.
About 500.
500, drum roll please.
Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it.
In the past calendar year, Ish has said,
my man on the main pod, 1,047 times.
Get the fuck out of here.
Fuck, I should have kept my 432.
I should have kept my 675.
That's like 10 times an episode.
Yeah, that's what I did to math.
I don't say my man's 10 times a day.
How did you do the math? How many times do you think you say it per episode? I don't. I don't say my man's ten times a day. What? How did you do the math?
It's not fair.
How many times you think you say it per episode?
I don't.
I don't say it every episode.
No, you definitely say it every episode, but like once or twice.
I did.
It's two episodes a week.
Okay.
Times 52 weeks is 104.
It's a hundredish episodes a year.
He don't say it ten times a episode.
He might.
I think he says it more. I don't. I think he says it at least four or five times that. No, I don't say it 10 times in the episode. Yeah. He might. I think he says it more. I don't.
I think he says it at least four or five times out.
No, I don't.
I give him more than that.
He say my man five times within a sentence,
within a topic.
And I'm not arguing, I'm just telling you what the,
That's funny.
What they come back with.
All of you guys alone, it's 1,047 times, man.
I would have never, god damn.
That's a lot of men. That's my man. You got a lot of mans I would have never, god damn. That's a lot of men.
That's my man.
You got a lot of mans.
You got a lot of mans.
That's my mans in them.
Y'all sleep on how many mans this guy.
You got a lot of mans.
You got a lot of mans, yo.
Gotta respect the friendship.
Word.
The brothers.
Them too.
Um, all right.
Good show.
Oh, I thought this was...no, man.
Really educational, informative show.
We thank y'all.
Thank y'all, man. Shout out to the journalists.
We couldn't have done it without you man.
Shout to all your wisdom, all of your fact checking.
The research required to come in. Come on man.
Stop playing with them out there.
Big doctor.
Come on man, y'all put the light up in the air real quick man. You got one Only the two of us together flying high
Flying high, I'm only a bird
I'll be looking at you, look at me fly
Just like the snow, when the sun is in the air
When the rain is falling So long goodbye Or a simple head novel suffice
Remember life is a series of moments and moments pass
So let's make this one last as if it's all we have, man
We say our prayers for the people inside and outside the rooms
Shout out to the people out there going through tough times
You can make it, it go!
All the wings of our love
And the wings of the In the wings of love
Stay strong for these four years
The road will get dark
As all the wings of love
They'll test us out there
All the wings of love
All we have to do is persevere
All we have to do is continue to be strong
These next four years will try us.
But we just gotta come together as a people in parks.
Hey, get Billy Joel on them.
Yes sir.
Shit.
Burnt the shit out of my finger.
What y'all got going on for the week?
Anything funny?
Anything interesting?
Is it anybody's birthday?
Is there anything I need to know about y'all?
Come on, what's up?
Talk to me, talk to me.
Nah, I have nothing interesting to say. anything fun, anything interesting? Is it anybody's birthday? Is there anything I need to know about y'all?
Come on, what's up, talk to me, talk to me.
Nah, I have nothing interesting to say.
Yo, we praying for y'all in Atlanta and Houston.
Y'all got two inches of snow.
New Orleans got snow too.
You wanna walk it back?
I never said it wasn't gonna be no more snow.
Day later.
Well, if y'all call that snow, then I will walk it back.
It was snow.
I said snow that requires some shoveling and stuff,
and y'all said yes.
I didn't shovel anything.
I didn't say you would have to do it.
I didn't shovel shit.
I went outside, started my Maybach, hit the clicker,
rock, hit the road.
I had to hit the turns a little softer because, you know.
Yo, is that real wheel drive? is that real wheel drive? Huh?
Is that real wheel drive?
It is?
Oh shit, huh?
You had a big car.
Yeah, it is a real wheel drive.
But I went out, got me a ribeye, drove slow,
it was empty outside.
See, I love it.
Any earthly conditions outside of catastrophes
like what went on in LA, but any earthly conditions
that keep you fucking criminals, scammersammers and dirty heathens inside the house while
I'm trying to enjoy a good ribeye I'll take it sorry We love you! Each and every one of you out there! We'll be back same time, same place next week! Take it up on them! Remember the Nazis are empowered!
We love you!
Each and every one of you out there!
We'll be back same time, same place next week!
Take it up on them!
We love you!
Each and every one of you out there!
We'll be back same time, same place next week!
Take it up on them!
We love you!
Each and every one of you out there!
We'll be back same time, same place next week!
Take it up on them!
We love you!
Each and every one of you out there!
We love you!
Each and every one of you out there!
We love you!
Each and every one of you out there!
We love you!
Each and every one of you out there! We love you! Each and every one of you out there! Each and every one of you out there! Each and every one of you out there! On the wings of love, up in the clouds, the only way to fly
On the wings of love, up in the clouds, the only way to fly
On the wings of love, up in the clouds, the only way to fly
Together flying high
Flying high
Flying high Grab you a Molly. A ecstasy. You might need it.
You might need it.
Next season of America 2025 is officially upon us.
Be careful.
Holla!
Holla!
Rest in peace George Carlin.
We gone man.
We love you all.