The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 803 | "One More Dance"
Episode Date: February 26, 2025The latest episode of the JBP kicks off with the crew discussing Meek Mill’s tax problems (24:45) before moving to news of former NFL wide receiver Steve Smith Sr. being at the center of infidelity ...allegations (35:00). Ne-Yo’s baby mother rips his polyamorous lifestyle (51:50), Rolling Stone is back with another bad list (1:24:05), and Freddie Gibbs seemingly disses J. Cole following his latest release ‘cLOUDs’ leading the cast to debate whether or not Cole should engage (1:29:49). Also, Kash Doll and Asian Doll trade shots online (1:52:12), Rihanna says she’s working on a new album (2:18:24), Tripp Fontaine breaks his silence regarding ‘Tonight’s Conversation’ (2:33:10), Marc Lamont Hill reacts to MSNBC cancelling Joy Reid’s evening show (2:48:40), Part of the Show (2:58:05), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: www.patreon.com/joebudden Sleeper Picks: Joe | Tempest – “Stop Playing” Ice | Benny the Butcher & ILL Tone Beats - “36 Ounces and a Mercedes” Parks | RJ Payne & Erick Sermon - “RIGHT CROSS” Ish | LÉA THE LEOX - “IFY” Melyssa | Zyah Belle - “1-800 Heartbreak” Marc | THEY. - “Rotation” QueenzFlip | Trinidad Killa (feat. Nicki Minaj) - “ESKIMO (Remix)”
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Yo, that's crazy.
Parks got the long sleeve under the short sleeve.
Two black jeans.
The short sleeve under the long sleeve.
The short sleeve.
Yeah, the short sleeve in on top.
Oh, killin' them.
The weather's fuckin' me up.
I don't know which one to pick.
Is it short sleeves?
That's a Marks blazer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Two black shirts on.
Oh man, that's crazy.
That's some wild shit right there.
How you doing today man?
What's good?
Good, good.
The weather's starting to turn.
It is.
You feeling it?
Yeah, almost 60 degrees.
Are you, well you came from LA but it was hot.
Are you feeling the weather? I was not in LA, I was in Atlanta, and it was not hot okay. It was like 40s. It was freezing
Yeah, okay, well 60 degree day. You had a driver. You just will burn it. What you do I had a car
You shooting something out there?
I'm feeling it
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
I'm feeling it.
In the back street.
In the back.
This nigga's chugging.
Stop.
Sto-
I promise y'all.
Don't start.
You got a lot of shit on.
I promise y'all.
You're playing already.
I'm gonna get my shit.
Look at Mark.
She was driving Mark.
She wasn't doing shit.
She was working.
She was.
What the fuck?
I believe. New film?
Something like that.
Something like that.
I've been interviewing people long enough to never stop asking questions right now.
Why are you fucking busy?
Hope it goes well. Hope it went well.
Thank you.
Just get it on?
No, no and no.
I am at peace and I'm here for a good time
Yeah, not a long time shout y'all are not going to trip me into y'all's traps y'all got laid
Well, man, we're happy that you're back. Thank you
You're present you miss you your presence is felt. We did not have a blast
Yes, yes
I saw the race around trade combo We did not have a blast. Not at all. Yes, y'all did. Yes, y'all did. Yes, y'all did.
I saw the racial draft trade combo.
Racial.
That's fucking.
Why you keep talking about racial trade?
Why you keep talking about racial trade?
Nobody traded you.
She keep saying,
no, I think she was traded.
I was fucking, I was super fucking.
I thought she was on the block.
I was on the block for Prime Rory.
But why she said, Oh no, that don't count. It doesn't count? Why she saying racial though? I was super fucking. I thought she was on the block. I was on the block for Prime Rory. But why she saying, oh no that don't count.
It doesn't count?
Why she saying racial though?
I'm being funny.
We ain't talking about nobody else.
Because the racial draft was in Dave Chappelle.
We ain't trade you for a girl.
Thank you, thank you.
Hey listen, small fucking victories, I'll take them.
I will take them, thank you, I appreciate that.
We did not have the most fun that we've had in years
up here with just the guys.
That's not true.
Nah, never.
If you heard that, it's inaccurate.
I know that it's not true.
Listen, Martin, Nellie, Mellie, come on now.
I ain't gonna lie, I started stuttering a lot more.
I got flustered without you being here
to just snap me out of it.
So I miss you, man, it's good to see you.
I miss you guys too.
Good to have you back.
I'm glad you're back.
These niggas did not seem more loose and free to me.
That's it, not at all.
They didn't.
It was the same.
These niggas didn't have fresh haircuts and shit?
Yeah, these niggas.
Nobody talked behind your back.
No.
Like, we was chilling.
Like, we was chilling.
We did it.
Yeah.
You did it.
You did it, okay.
Don't watch our draft while you're going either.
I couldn't help it.
It was going viral.
It was everywhere, Joe.
It was trading metal.
It was going fucking viral.
Yes.
Yeah.
It was all over.
Yeah, just don't start today.
Like in the past.
I didn't know that.
That shit was all over the place.
Please don't start today.
But what I appreciate.
Just don't start today, yo.
I never want no beef.
You got too many mans to not know what's up.
What you appreciated, Mark, is that no one
was willing to trade you, right?
They weren't on the block, buddy.
You motherfucker.
I watched the whole thing.
No, I appreciate it was at the end.
Joe says something very nice.
He said, in real life, I would not trade anybody
that's in this room.
Of course, coming from the nigga who wasn't up for trade.
At this very moment.
He said, at this very moment.
On these couches.
And I wasn't trying to be funny.
That's one of them internet Kendrick DeBunk moves.
I wasn't trying to be funny.
He just came out like that.
No, no, but I know.
But I just want to say, I like that button at the end
where everybody felt like, it's just a nice exercise.
Yeah, that's it.
I ain't on that trade, nobody.
I mean, I had the best crew in the world.
OK.
Good stuff.
Good stuff, indeed.
Corey, you see why you got a Bolita bartender?
I'm playing.
I'm playing.
I'm playing.
Well, the bartenders get the drop on you.
Bartender!
The nigga just left just now, yo.
He walked out.
Tell Ray Ray and him he at the door.
He waited for his turn.
He waited for his turn. He's standing the door. He waiting for his driver.
He waiting for his driver.
He standing outside, he's waiting for his driver.
Yeah, the fucking bartenders, I tell you.
You trying to jam me up.
You trying to jam me up.
I want to get your shit off, go ahead.
I can't say nothing.
I'm not trying to jam you up.
I don't want to play.
I can't say nothing.
I don't want to play with you because you know what?
I'm not a negativity highlighter.
So I don't want to play with you.
I want to say I'm happy that you made it home safe.
I'd be down to play too, if that shit wasn't true as hell.
I was two steps out of there.
Yeah, got out of there kinda fast.
I was like, oh shit, he got the line.
Oh my God, yo, no, leave me alone today, I'm not doing it., he got the mic.
Oh my God, yo, no, leave me alone today, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.
I'm not doing it.
Because I want you to get your shades.
Because you're not going to be there with me.
You're not going to be there with me.
I will.
No, you're not.
Now what happens when I'm there is two different things.
I'll be there.
Oh shit.
Yo, Doug!
Yo, Fiff, come on, Fiff.
You're going to do that shit you always do,
get a couple licks in on me.
Oh shit.
You're going to do that shit you always do, Fiv, come on, Fiv. You gonna do that shit you always do, get a couple licks in on me. Oh, shit.
You gonna do that shit you always do,
push me, knock me to the ground.
I ain't playing with you.
But if I'm not gonna get to the ground,
I'm preventing you from getting jumped.
Oh my Lord, thank you.
So some niggas may not hit me,
cause they know me.
All right, flip, flip, get out the way.
That's exactly how I got hit,
that's the only time I ever got hit.
Nah, he ain't gonna hit me.
Bop!
Oh, shit, thank God Mermaid was just weak that night.
I was just in and out on the humbug. I didn't even know he was on the way.
You gotta move fast to catch me though.
I ain't gonna, that was my third, fourth stop for the night.
And I'm 44.
I ain't just gonna be outside at three in the morning,
four in the morning. I'm going home. ain't just gonna be outside at three in the morning, four in the morning.
I'm going home.
Thank God.
Oh, shit.
Jesus.
It's the line.
Shut up, Joe Biden.
That's it.
So that's what I'm gonna do today.
I'm shutting up.
I might talk to the rest of you niggas.
Don't look at that.
Oh, man.
Hold up, for real.
There's a few of these niggas out here
I wanna know if they can fight.
I was in the comments. I saw that too. Hey, you can, man. Hold up, for real. There's a few of these niggas out here I wanna know if they can fight. I was in the comments.
I saw that too.
Hey, you can believe this.
You think, what's my man name?
You think he can fight?
No.
Because I don't.
Oh, I don't know.
I don't really fuck with him.
Yeah, I'ma learn him.
I'ma learn him.
Is he in the community?
No, mind your business.
Oh, okay.
Mind your business.
Sorry.
Why, you wanna go hang out with him,
have tea and crumpets like you do with people in the community?
No. Oh, okay. You wanna hire him crumpets like you do with people in the community?
No.
Oh, okay, you want to hire them for your show
like you do with people?
No.
Why not?
Yes.
You gotta turn me up in the air for some more.
Mic check one, two, one, two, man.
Mic check, mic check one, two, greatest podcast
in the universe.
Turn me up, Chris.
So happy to be here, God is good.
So grateful to have breath in my lungs, he woke me up this morning, man. So many motherfucking hunters, you gotta make it part two. greatest podcast in the universe so happy to be here God is good so grateful
to have breath in my lungs he woke me up this morning man
fab and death fab and grateful prayers for those inside the room and outside the room I made a proposition to my hitters, I told them not to
get in the field, I did the side round, hit them
business, we move the top rounds, I was a fucking
bitch, got shot down, we was whoring my homie,
I out now, so we on her, I was like 16, we never
made it, we get in the field like it's Pop Warner,
where did the 16, they expectin' me when they got
real child slide on her, I made some men split it
down so that we keepin' it real, maybe not,
and my homie and savage, I put in a casket and I'm at
a hen, cause he died on us, just love his viewin viewing and I told his mom every time she cried we gon' slide on
I was a nigga right there in the eye and now it's probably on your right foot
I was a fool, you best admit with some niggas and they should side on me
How would you feel?
When you so lit that you can't tell if the love real
If I can't tell you nothing I tell you how I thought I feel
And you ain't rich enough to pay my drug bill New York City was popping pussy nigga this is miss a pain
Pull it a special rain that got specific change. He got drug money
I know I'm gonna know I like to just take a ride
and let the music blast now
I don't even need a destination
I'll go somewhere and make a U-turn, nigga
You gotta move fast, you gotta move fast
I tell my rolly-yard tour rich or male
When the triptych with some young niggas
Tryin' to tell them how this rich shit really feel
You ain't never been in the field with them late nights
Meek, I got experts here, man
We gon' solve that tax problem immediately.
Right from the riff, we getting into it.
I was a rich nigga on a mission.
I was motivated.
I was watching smoochie.
I was broke nigga in the kitchen.
I was chasing millions when they said I couldn't.
I was hard-handed.
I ain't listen.
Cause a bad devil never get it.
Now when y'all made it, I'm trying to get it.
All of my money is blue.
All of my money is blue.
Riddle me this.
I supposed to go get the money and keep doing favors and give all my money to who?
You keep telling me niggas keep telling you what
Why they be running to you?
Why every time niggas talk about me and it's bad
They keep coming to you
I never got that part
Never understood it
Nigga know you my man but every time you want to talk bad about me
He come to you and you come to me like a whole ass nigga
Slap the shit out of you
Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck It's the Slap, the Strauss. Fuck. Mock ass in the world of Iggy! Oh, come on, Jack. One, two!
It's getting hot out, bring the cars out, bring the cars out!
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah! Took over the whole racket A kilo after kilo, see who moved the most Two hundred foot yacht, she wanna see the coast You can't be chasing money with the wrong approach
Yo, this shit was slept on
This project was slept on, I ain't gonna lie
This is the Meek Ross project
I came in and told y'all
Nah, this project was definitely slept on
Bitch boys running social media
Rich nigga naming Wikipedia
If I fuck a one one she wanna fuck me twice
All the real niggas click up let's get rich tonight This pandemic infectious, bloody diamonds on this nigga This pandemic infectious
Uh, uh, uh, uh
Mic check, mic check, mic check
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Flip and Mel and Mark.
Mark, Mark, what episode is this?
803.
Welcome to episode 803 of the Joe Budden podcast
brought to you by Fuel Buy, Power Buy,
Price Picks, Price Picks Gang, yeah!
I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored,
happy to be here, host Joe Budden,
here with a few really amazing people to my right big M4 Melissa Ford legend in the building
So her right big Queens flip Queens get the money to his right ish, huh?
Y'all know the vibe King Wawa in the building you got his 10 year anniversary outfit on just with the jeans now
All right to his right King Elizabeth the, DeFriesius of Mall, Ice is here, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building,
Elmira's finest, Parks is in the building, Poe is here,
Chorus here, Imani is here, Erickson is here, Tana and
Savon are here by remote, last but certainly not least, each
and every one of you guys are here, shout out to the first
and last time listeners, how's everybody doing, how y'all
feeling, what's popping though, what's popping?
Feeling great. Feeling good, man. Feeling good. Feeling great. Feeling good man, feeling good.
Feeling excellent.
This weather got me feeling like in the.
Sexy?
Yeah.
You bringing sexy back?
No.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Weather got him feeling good.
He came in his West Coast attire.
This nigga Freeze.
You all right, Freeze?
I'm good.
Yeah, get the mic right, that's right.
It's gotta fix the mic, of course.
That's right, we in this, bitch.
All right, let's get right to it.
Because y'all ain't doing nothing special this week.
Or if somebody did something special this week
that I can exploit for entertainment purposes,
tell me now.
Let's get out of the way now.
If not, we can get right to it.
I'm following the ice glow package I got, Invisalign.
OK.
Let's go.
That's the exciting part of our week.
You got some Invisalign?
Yeah, man.
Let's go.
Let's go.
What was the thinking behind that?
Your teeth look good to me.
Thank you, but you know, get better.
When you get more money, you want to do more things.
Yeah.
That's it.
Or you just want to continuously get better for yourself.
As a human.
Be your best person.
Richard, you look good, Richard.
Thank you.
Richard Gere.
Thank you.
Thought I was going to be in GQ soon.
Yeah.
Who parks?
Mm-hmm. How long you got away that shit? I don't know, I think be in GQ soon. Yeah. Who, Parks?
How long you got to wait that shit?
I don't know, I think a year.
A year?
You don't sound as dumb as Ice did when you had that shit.
Ice sounded a complete fucking mess with that Invisalign.
It's going to happen to him later on.
It was just towards the end.
When they get tighter?
No, it's when they put the guards in there so you can't believe.
When they put the shit in there.
I had Invisalign.
You did?
Really?
Yeah.
A long time ago.
It wasn't even out that long ago.
It's like 20 years old.
It's like 20 years old.
Oh, you were like the first.
No, I was in the first.
They had that shit in Canada first.
Oh, for real?
Park, I have been here for 24 years.
That's true.
Okay, so.
Okay, now you saying that, huh?
Now you was in America 24.
It's green card time, nigga.
Let's be clear, I've always been clear.
I'm Canadian with a green card,
which is why I couldn't vote,
and I've been in this country for 24 years.
Let's just, there.
That's how they deported Simon.
Oh, we don't, we don't know.
They got Simon.
Yeah, I saw that. Who's Simon? They got him. Simon is, what's in it? Portia's estranged. Port don't know. They got Simon. Yeah, I saw that.
Who's Simon?
They got him.
Simon is what's in it?
Portia's ex.
Yeah.
Who?
Ex-husband, Portia.
Real housewives of Atlanta.
Oh.
They got Simon.
He had the visa, the green card,
they knocked the fire's door, yep.
Come on, let's go.
They didn't finothgrace my algorithms.
No, I think his visa was expired or something like that.
They tighten up on that shit.
You have a visa and a green card?
No, I have a green card.
Oh, you don't get, I don't know.
No, visa first and then green card.
You have a 10 year green card?
Yeah, they last 10 years and then you reapply.
So did you reapply?
I'm on my second one.
You reapply, reapply quick.
You won't get citizenship sooner, right?
You know, I thought about it,
but every time I think about going for citizenship,
Trump is in office,
and then the immigration department goes to shit,
and your application just gets put under a pile,
and I just say fuck it, whatever.
I still pay the same taxes.
It's no big deal.
Yeah.
When does new shit expire?
Why?
You gonna call fucking ICE on me?
No, I would never.
I would never.
Can you imagine if they come up here and take Mel?
Are we allowed to keep the footage and put it out there to the public?
Yeah, sure, go ahead.
They're waiting to see it.
And they came in here and locked Mel up.
ICE?
Shit.
That's the two for one,
because you know Imani gonna snuff him.
Imani gotta snuff the ice dude if you take him out.
And he better fall.
He better fall down too.
MTA, first month of congestive pricing
made over $48 million.
Extra.
What?
Is that extra money or?
It's not extra, it's money's from congestive pricing.
In month one, 48 point something million dollars.
To that, what does everybody say here?
I get home a lot easier, that's all I care about.
It worked.
So you do want it to continue?
Yeah.
The program?
Yeah.
Oh you said that shit.
Yeah, I feel great.
It works out for everybody.
MTA, I like politics.
It doesn't work out for everybody.
It doesn't work out for everybody. I'm sorry, I meant everybody in this room. I don't drive out for everybody. MTA, I like that. It doesn't work out for everybody. It doesn't work out for everybody.
I'm sorry, I meant everybody in this room.
I don't know.
I don't drive in New York.
Don't do that, Mark.
I should have been with you.
I've been working here too long.
Yeah, I'm about to say, my man rubbing off on you.
Mark is dead, Mark is dead.
Oh no, he's dead.
You don't bullshit.
No, Mark wanted him.
I think he told me he matches Rolex with his wedding band.
I said, oh, okay.
I don't like mixing metals.
Wait, what?
I don't like mixing metals.
I don't like mixing metals.
I pick my watch by my wedding band.
Yeah.
I didn't say I picked my watch.
Wait, you got multiple wedding bands?
Yes.
I got, yeah.
Wow.
You know what watch I wear for the day.
I don't want to have a gold watch on
with a platinum wedding band.
Well, see, no, it's only because your Rolex parts has both medals on it.
I like that.
That's how you do it.
Right.
It goes with everything.
That's your bag right there.
That's a fly shit I told you.
It's fly shit.
That's a stunt.
Joe, you gonna do the same shit.
I'm on that, bro.
I ain't gonna lie.
Am I?
You are going to have like seven wedding bands.
But you don't have that many watches.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
Wow.
Wow.
Let's go in. Let's go in. shit. Oh shit. Wow. Wow.
Wow.
Let's go, it's time to get in.
Wow.
It's time to get in.
Wow.
Stop your watch game, my nigga.
Come on, come on.
Open that, open that.
Fuck out of here, nigga.
You came with that watch to change the band, nigga.
We saw that.
I wasn't even trying to say it like that, dawg.
There ain't nobody.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
I'm jealous.
Yo, you're an shit. Yo, stupid.
Yo, you're an idiot. Yo, you're an idiot.
Yo, you're an idiot.
What's wrong with you?
That was quick to get up.
Yo, this guy's an idiot, yo.
Oh, man.
I wasn't just all tomorrow
That's not really a bag so you got one watch that you primarily will all the time
That watch calls more than all our watches in here damn they put together. I'm sure it's so I can't say nothing about your watch
I'm just saying your watch. Watches. Watch.
Watch.
Get that niggas, huh?
Wow.
Play my man Alfred nigga.
One watch you got singular.
I was five minutes from not having.
One more dancing and you'd be... That nigga's thinking, one more dance
and you're in a G-Shock right now.
One more dance.
Oh shit.
One more dance.
Oh shit.
That was just stupid.
Anyway, how many wedding beads?
I'm not doing this with y'all all day.
How many wedding beads you got?
I only have three.
I just have three.
What?
And one is very, one is like, cheap.
It's like a, it's the black rubber jaw
I use to like play sports in.
I wear it with, I also wear it with an Apple Watch.
But I do a gold in the platinum one.
What?
Why I catch you straight?
The Apple Watch is the cheap shit though.
No, no, it's just black.
You just said one is cheap.
So I wear that one with the Apple Watch.
It matches my Apple Watch.
Because of the color.
It's only because of the color.
You know, I went to Apple and tried on an Apple Watch
as I was waiting for like the
New iPhone or something and it just didn't look right on me. I love my really I love my shit
You gotta get no I'm not talking about the quality of it and I'm just talking
What's going on up here you got a rash These poor time pieces. My skin won't take it. It's like titanium.
That was not what I was saying.
It didn't look right on my wrist.
So I didn't get it.
And we play, it ain't the cheapest thing in the world either.
It ain't cheap.
And it makes me have a different band.
I had to get the big band, the extra large band.
It came like $1100 or something.
Yeah, this one was like 800 almost.
Jesus.
Yeah, I just got the extra,
the transformer pieces and all that shit.
I get shit made from, you know.
Did you have to purchase all your wedding bands
or did your wife do that?
Great question, I was gonna ask that.
Cause I'd never been married, but to my understanding.
Look at you trying to shoot your wife some bell,
you can't pass that.
Your wife gets you the wedding bands.
I purchased my own, I'll help you.
I purchased my own.
What I was going to say is she technically bought it,
but when she swipes that card, the bill still comes to me.
God.
I was trying to figure out a way to say that.
Be respectful, nigga.
It's our one in the podcast.
She has her own car.
Oh, yeah, it's true.
She has her own car.
The act of purchasing was done by her physically.
Yes.
She swiped.
She picked them out?
That's they bags.
But we shopped for bands together.
Like, I said what I wanted.
Because you said your girl had your card as well,
and she swiped for the trips.
You were saying the same thing he's saying.
My wife got her own one.
Her own actual card?
Also, if you give your girl your card,
you didn't give her her own one on your line.
My girl has her own everything, my brother.
OK.
No problem. Link to't want no problems.
Link to what account?
Only one of her cars is under me.
Nice.
That's the one she bought the trips with, right?
AMX, one of her AMX's under me, but.
You, I don't have nothing to say.
Yo, move along, please.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, move along, please.
Sometimes you gotta look at the side. It's called catching flashes, let's move along. Let Yeah, yeah, yeah, move along please. Sometimes you gotta have a desire to do that.
Bitch start catching flashes.
Let's move along.
Let's get out of Zells.
We good.
My girl sent me what she need next month.
She on punishment now.
Shit.
I don't even know what a punishment look like, but you gotta go sit down.
Yo, hold up.
Real quick.
Starting to ration.
You played the record. She was heat. People to the answer. Yo, hold up. Real quick. Starting to ration. You played the record.
Who was he?
People tagged the nigga.
He was following me, hit me up in 2017,
about a video.
Oh, seriously?
I swear to God.
Wait, you found the dude?
The girl tagged him, his record.
They tagged his page.
I looked in the end, I'm like,
what the fuck is going on?
I said, let me get out of this
Nigga one
I was hot with the videos nigga. I was making like five each one nigga
What videos skits to do to the records like probably the car shits I was doing
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Yo, this a nigga vibe.
Why you cut it off, nigga? That shit was a mistake.
Go away.
That shit was kind of going. No, no, no, no, wait. That shit was kinda going.
Wait, hold on.
Holy shit, alright.
Here we go. One bag of cash bag, I don't give a fuck, please believe me, believe me
Swat on the top, make it them easy One bus low tech, say them need it
Fam just linked me, I say what is your secret?
I said bro you have to fuck them hard, make them ball out, rock shot
We are the digga, let me make them pass out, thrift off
Alright nigga
Yes
Yes
No job button
Shit ain't bad, shit ain't bad Alright come on, let's get right to it man Let's get right to the proceedings this afternoon No Joe Biden. Not bad. Not bad.
All right, come on.
Let's get right to it, man.
Let's get right to the proceedings this afternoon.
Yes, sir.
Where do y'all want to begin?
Do y'all want to, I want to ISO one Isha Mark so we can help Meek with his tax problem.
Ah, our CPAs.
Isha Mark?
Oh, yeah.
Get down.
I'm just from Philly.
Meek Mill said, well I'm just from Philly.
Meek Mill said, well and you from Philly, Meek Mill said in 2013 he made two million
dollars and somehow he owes more than that.
2.8.
2.8 on that year.
I understand.
Break it down for the audience biggish. You had 12 years of penalties and interest coming from the IRS
That shit is a different level. I remember one year. I had to pay them niggas back. I
Think I think I owed him like five I end up paying him like 21 grand some shit like that
It was something that was ridiculous cuz I ain't paying for like four or five years
Yeah, that shit is it is different. I shit is different. That penalties and interest be different.
I owed them like half a million,
and it was on like $100,000 a week, 120, tops.
But I took like a long time to pay
because I got bad tax advice.
They kept saying, wait, don't pay,
we're gonna fight this, we're gonna fight this.
If you owe them six digits, you can't fight the IRS.
All them commercials about discounts and shit, that's for.
We got all the wrong info in the world.
We go looking for receipts.
Right. Let me get all wrong info in the hood. We go looking for receipts. Right.
Let me get all your sneakers, my nigga.
Yeah.
Get some bullshit.
None of that shit matter, man.
But I can see now how, again,
that shit was 12 years ago, dog.
Yeah, he probably owed like 400, 500.
He might've owed him 500 grand.
Let's just say a two million dollar tax bracket.
You might've owed him $700,000 if you made two mil.
And you ain't pay him.
Now you add on 12 years, my nigga,
of compounded interest, penalties, fees.
It could be 2.8.
It shouldn't be set on a grand if you made two mil.
Might be a little more,
depending on what your write-offs and shit are.
It could vary depending on what you're writing off.
And if it's from back then,
he didn't have the good support and advice
to do a lot of philanthropic work, to write a lot. I don't think his business structure was as tight as it is now back then, he didn't have the good support and advice to do a lot of philanthropic work.
I don't think his business structure was as tight
as it is now based on what he said.
So he might owe a lot of money.
Well, what made the tweet funny.
Is that he tweeted it.
Yeah, well not just that.
Not just that, because I got the tweet up.
IRS made me pay 2.8 mil from 2013 and I only made 2 million.
How do I fight that?
That's what made it funny.
You ask in Twitter how you fight this.
That's my favorite thing to have.
That's exactly it.
And be some smart motherfuckers on Twitter.
I was gonna say, he probably had like an influx.
It really don't.
That's a big misconception.
It really is.
It really don't.
That's hilarious.
What'd you say, All-Milk?
I was just gonna say, he probably had like an influx
of tax attorneys and you know, whatnot, and CPAs.
Yeah, trying to come to his rescue.
Definitely in his inbox.
It is the only thing, and I love me,
that's my brother, shout out to me.
He's very close with Michael Rubin, billionaire.
He's very close with Robert Kraft, billionaire.
Close to Jay-Z, billionaire.
I feel like there's resources out there
that can give him good tax advice outside of.
That's what makes it fun.
That's what makes it fun.
He knows people more qualified than X
to get his information.
He knows them.
Yeah.
Any question he ever brings to X is?
Always funny.
Comedy.
Yo, who know where I could buy a house?
Who know where I could get a private jet, yo?
That's why I love it.
I love it, yeah. I mean, it is funny. You know where I could get a private jet, yo. That's why I love it. I love it, yeah.
I mean, it is funny, I ain't gonna laugh though,
because I too have been in the tax situation,
and that shit ain't no joke.
It ain't no joke.
And IRS people are assholes.
The more money you owe, they take it personal.
They resent.
I remember going into the office,
and dude, damn, they're cussing me.
Like, I thought we was gonna have to fight.
Like, he was cussing me out like it was his money
I owed him, you know what I mean?
No, I wasn't.
Because they resent you having it.
And they resent you owe it.
You know what I mean too.
Yeah.
I'm like, I know that some more people owe more money
than this shit y'all on my ass about.
Then you really know when your accountant is trashed
because they can't even get IRS on the phone.
Your accountant gonna sit there on hold for seven hours
before he gets some information.
That's just when I fired my accountant. This is what he did. He sat on the phone for hours. He told me, he put it on three way. He was like, you want you to hold for seven hours before he gets some information. That's just when I fired my accountant.
This is what he did.
He sat on the phone for hours.
He told me, he put it on three way.
He was like, you want you on for a little bit,
I gotta go to lunch.
Ooh, that's a great question.
How many accountants have you fired
before you got your tax situation right?
Oh my God, three.
It's probably about three or four with me too.
Yeah, I don't know.
And you don't know, well, let me speak for me.
I can't speak very well, so I'm no expert
in the field in this, but I don't know, well, let me speak for me. I can't speak very well, so I'm no expert in the field in this.
But I didn't know that you can't even start getting your life together until you do it,
until you fix it.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
Nigga, you can't do shit.
Nothing.
I was invited to the White House one time, and they was like, you can't go if your taxes ain't paid up.
Oh my God.
Are you serious?
Oh, my mama.
They was like, yeah.
They said the particular, some things you can get into like the Negro barbecue stuff they'd
be having with Joe Biden had in
October.
I ain't go to that. But like some
of the fancier stuff and like a
formal stuff.
You can't go in there with a text
that I mean, that makes sense.
Don't it did.
I don't think so.
Wait, hold on. So when it comes to
like, you know, the big dinners and
shit like that, like they
check, I understand background
checks, but they check that far into your background. I don't that, like they check, I understand background checks,
but they check that far into your background?
I don't know if they check check,
but I know I was specifically told,
if you have a tax debt, it's a dub.
Yeah, it's a dub.
That makes sense.
Man, fuck that.
It's one of the things I want to argue,
but it makes sense.
It's like when they took my passport
for own child support, as mad as I was,
they understand. Yeah. That make a little bit of sense. And now they took my passport for own child support, as mad as I was, I understand.
Yeah.
That make a little bit of sense.
And now they take your passport with the taxes.
Oh, okay.
You see that and that makes a little sense too.
I found that shout in 2020.
They told me to surrender it.
I didn't.
I paid it since I'm legal, but I just be clear, but I didn't and I still travel, but technically they're supposed to take your passport.
And it makes complete sense.
Because if you owe enough, it's enough to leave.
And me talking about 2013, dog, when they hit me,
it was for 2006, eight, nine, 11, 12.
It was like seven years that they was like,
yo, something was wrong right here.
I was like, dog, that's when I had money.
Y'all catching me dead broke right now.
I was trying to do layaway plans
and all types of shit with them dudes.
Yeah, and they'd be like, fuck your layaway plan.
They told me my layaway plan would be 40,000 a month.
I said, if I had 40,000 a fucking month,
I owe them half a million.
I was like, fuck it. I could pay you.
Yeah, if I was supposed to do that,
I would have no problems.
Yeah, fuck y'all.
Shit.
We gotta hit that bankruptcy.
That's when we gotta hit that. That's when we gotta pull the tricks out. hit that bankruptcy. That's when we gotta hit that.
That's when we gotta pull the tricks out.
Hit that bankruptcy.
That shit been doing your shit for like seven years, though.
Right.
Hey, trade I'm willing to deal with if you don't have the money when them people come.
Them tax debts come back.
Them seven years don't wipe off your federal tax debt.
Yeah, I was about to say, I don't know if it wipe off.
They don't wipe off tax debt.
They don't wipe off them big student loans.
Student loans, yeah.
Yeah, you be fucked up. No, student loan, that's y'all that fell for the fucking school tricks of America. I was about to say I don't know if it wipe off. They don't wipe off tax that they don't wipe off them big student loans either? Student loans, yeah.
Yeah, you be fucked up.
No, student loan, that's y'all that fell
for the fucking school tricks of America.
Damn education idiots.
A student loan.
That was y'all.
Are you crazy?
Yeah, I'll do that seven years.
Meek, good luck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got this.
Yo, 2013 he made two million.
And that was his debut.
I was about to say, that's when he was fish greased.
That's his first year.
Damn.
Life's been good for him.
Nah.
No.
When I'm a boss in the house party and all that came out.
That was like 11th, I thought, right?
Yeah, it was like 2010, 11th.
Yeah, it was like 10th.
But I'm just saying, he was fish greased then, though.
He made it that year.
Two million in 2013 for him had to feel like 10. Yeah 20 now 2 million
He's winning his account paid it like to 2 million shit to him now do y'all think I know we might have covered this before
But the internet was tearing little meet you up for allegedly running through five million dollars in three years. I
Understand today's did he say he paid me to money or he gave like family the money
Like I gave them because I told you like me running through the money if it was him
It's a lot of money. There's a lot of money, but I could
Yes, a lot of life a lot of entourage
They were finding pictures of him in the new outfits
and saying this is where the five million went.
Yeah, I saw that.
Yeah.
And stuff, you know, I mean, when you're young,
you can spend a lot of money relatively quickly.
But I realized that.
When you're young or when you're a girl.
Oh yeah, girls spend money like,
nigga.
Five million, a lot of money, dawg.
In three years, ain't a long time.
We talk about after taxes are like the five million
and then half of it going.
I wasn't talking pre or post.
Just running through that.
That puts a lot of people up.
So five million is two and a half.
Five, it ain't really five.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's usually what fucks people up.
No.
Two and a half is a lot to go through in three years.
You ain't got no financial education,
you can run through that money.
Facts.
An expensive lifestyle,
and you're trying to keep up with rappers and shit
that like live that, you can run through that money quick. And then the other piece of and you're trying to keep up with rappers and shit that like live that,
you can run through that money quick.
And then the other piece of it,
because this is what fucks people up,
but I did a study of this on NBA players,
they think they're investing the money,
but they invested in really bad things.
So like the biggest investment in the 90s, 2000s
was car washes.
Every NBA player said, I'm gonna invest in a car wash.
And so they would, if they got a million,
they would spend three of it.
And then they would say, look, I'm gonna put two or three
into this car wash, and then that would go away. They would lose the money, the investments would fail. So it's million, they would spend three of it. And then they would say, look, I'm gonna put two or three into this car wash,
and then that would go away.
They would lose the money, the investments would fail.
So it's not always that they spend all the money,
it's that they do really dumb shit with it.
And for a lot of us in entertainment,
there's a difference between having it and earning it.
Yes.
Very big difference.
You having two and a half million dollars
don't mean that it's about to replenish every month.
Right. And you don't always know when it's going to, like I know for me,
just I've had years where I made a lot of money.
Me too. And I just assumed the next year would be the same.
You always assume you're going to next year's going to be more or the same.
We never assume we're going to make less until next year come.
And that's when you get fucked up.
And yo, you start just pitch chipping', chippin', chippin',
chippin', spend 20,000 here, 13,000 here, 7,000 here,
and that shit just start goin', you be like.
Nine dollars here.
Yo, that shit just start lookin' crazy.
Right.
Yo, it's different.
That congested toast shit and all that shit
is expensive too, when you say nine dollars here,
I just spent to fuckin' pay the bill of 500 and some dollars
for the month of January and February nigga
It's a lot of money if you if you're a regular person that has to spend an additional 250 a month
That's a lot of money. Yeah for the average person. It's a big chunk of income. It's a lot of money
Exactly. Some nigga might only make three thousand bring home three thousand four thousand dollars a month. You gotta spend two fifty three hundred extra
That's a lot of money.
I agree with you.
It's a lot for me.
You're not tricking me.
I totally agree.
No, I'm tricking you.
I totally agree with you.
All right, good luck to me.
What else is important?
What else is important up here?
This Steve Smith thing,
I need y'all to explain this to me,
because maybe this is some shit niggas from a Jersey do.
Whoa, what happened?
I just, what? Niggas from a Jersey do. Well, what what happened? I just what?
I think it's from Jersey do.
So this guy is young.
People know the story.
But if you don't know the story, Steve Smith, senior football player,
was allegedly having an affair with a woman in the football organization,
Ravens organization.
The guy's husband finds out
the girls, the girls, the girls husband, excuse me, finds out
and puts it on social media.
Yeah, it sure does.
The proof.
Why that's some New Jersey shit, nigga.
No, I'm asking,
because I don't know anybody from my fair city
that would ever put on social media
that their wife was getting shushed about
by a professional football player.
Like goofy nigga ain't from no New Jersey.
I don't know why, I'm just asking,
this is what I don't know.
And number two, what's his race?
The one that put a double husband was what, right?
Yeah.
They react different.
That shit is, like did you think you was playing him?
Yeah, I didn't.
I just feel like, you not playing me
if you put that shit on there?
Then he called him.
And called him.
You're fucking my wife, buddy.
And he's like, sorry?
Sorry?
No, I don't even think he said sorry.
I'm telling you, he was like,
I took the sorry like pardon me
And anybody that knows Steve Smith Steve Smith is a hothead
So I know he really wanted to blast them, but you know he's being recorded right? He's a nut now Steve Smith like has been and doing commentating then you know the mean got some NFL jobs pretty good
It's like you I ain't gonna let you fuck my shit up, but if I catch you outside Steve Smith married
So he want to talk too crazy on that phone
with this nigga being recorded.
That's why the dude did it.
I was gonna lean into that, like that's why the dude did it.
That's what that was.
Like yo, you fucked up my marriage,
I'ma fuck up yours back,
so let me put all the tea out there.
That's corny.
Goofy.
Super corny.
Very corny.
It's not gonna work.
It's goofy.
Look how toxic we are.
And I fuck your marriage up. Why we don't say it's corny. It's goofy. And it's not gonna work. It's goofy. Look how toxic we are. And I think your marriage up.
Why we don't say it's corny for the married dude
to fuck the married girl?
We don't say that.
What you think?
Let's see if a big male on this one, y'all.
I was thinking exactly what you just said.
As everybody's just like, that was corny.
I was just like, well, what about the fact
that it's two married people cheating with each other?
Well, we think it's corny.
We think it's corny.
It happens every day.
I know it does, but that doesn't make it right.
There is more acceptance with that one than it is for.
Yeah, he broke the code, and to you guys,
that's more of a violation than the sanctity of marriage.
That's kind of wild.
It's more interesting to me.
I mean, I'm cheating.
Cheating is fucked up.
Like that's the obvious part.
I dare you to use that tone of voice with your wife.
I wouldn't.
I'm able to use it up here,
but I wouldn't use that with her.
Women always skip the for better or for worse part.
Exactly.
Of the vows.
She participated in fucking them.
The woman, right?
This is part of the worst part.
Yeah.
Of vows. So when you speak about the sanctity of marriage, I'm bringing up of the worst part. Yeah. Of vows.
So when you speak about the sanctity of marriage,
I'm bringing up all the words that were said
during our vows at our wedding.
She's 1000% wrong as well.
Both parties are wrong in this whole situation.
I'm just talking about the dialogue between the two guys.
That's all I'm talking about.
The sanctity of marriage.
Yo, you crazy.
The sanctity of marriage don't mean
it's gonna stop bad things from happening. The sanctity of marriage. Yo, you crazy. The sanctity of marriage don't mean it's going to stop bad things from happening.
The sanctity of marriage should get us through the bad things happening.
For better or for worse.
Yeah, but the sanctity of, for better or for worse, it doesn't mean, you know, tripping
and falling in a plissian.
I'm writing this down.
I'm taking notes.
I'm writing this shit down.
Repeat what you just said.
That's the worst part.
That's the worst part.
That's the worst part.
That's the worst part.
That's the worst part. That's the worst part. That's the worst part. That's to say it. That's the worst part. Let me slip. What'd you say? Save that in a note for later.
What?
When you get hemmed up, save that.
But my response to that is, yes it does.
It does.
If I slip and fall into some pussy,
yeah, that's included in.
Is it the same if she slip and some dick fall in her?
Yes.
Niggas lying, but okay.
I mean, we're gonna respond different,
but it's for both parties.
I hear you.
For better or for worse, it's a death due with part.
I hear you.
They gotta be dead.
They're supposed to be.
And death may come, in some situations,
nah, I can't say that.
Some situations, you know that the death part comes early.
Can't say that.
Don't say that.
But what I'm saying is, it's for both.
It's supposed to be for both.
It's supposed to be, yeah. It's supposed to be it.
It's for both.
What do you guys think is the statistical rate
of men leaving their wives after they found out
that she cheated?
It's not as high.
I don't know.
It's not as high.
Listen to this.
It's not as high as people think.
Okay.
What happens is, when women get cheated on,
they'll broadcast it.
When niggas get cheated on, they ain't gonna tell nobody because now you get looked at like a sucker as a simp. And so they'll broadcast it. When niggas get cheated on, they ain't gonna tell nobody
because now you get looked at like a sucker at a temple.
And so they'll eat it, but a lot of people get,
men get cheated on and stay.
And it's a lot.
And on top of that, a lot of times we did the cheating
so when she cheats back, we understand.
Like, oh.
Yeah, I done got 49 girls off.
All right, this hurts.
Yeah, it hurts.
That you fuck money, but all right, we even.
But you all, but we even.
49.
We even, hold on, man.
Man, here's the difference.
Yeah, he right.
When we even, y'all, when we cheat, not me,
but when you cheat and get caught,
the wife, you tell her how you feel and she understands.
When she cheats and get caught,
we all her ass nigga like this.
Who you talking to, huh?
You still doing that shit again?
Who you, you still talking to that nigga?
What you doing?
Yo, I got you.
Yeah, but the niggas that's not leaving,
you could do all that, you still know that you're not leaving.
You still know you're not leaving.
I ain't even do that.
I think how men look at it versus how women look at it
are different.
I'm not going to insert my views on this
because my views be wild.
But if my wife
checks every box and she slipped one night
I'm not
Doing that is not checking all my boxes. Would you hold on?
That's me.
That's not, you not checking all my boxes.
Yeah, but I don't think that's fair.
Your family, you come from a church going family.
Yes.
Which means forgiveness is paramount in that.
I ain't go to church.
That was my family.
No, no.
You're too diverse.
Would you say that if you do,
if she checked all your boxes, you forgave her.
Would you say that you contributed,
would you take accountability for contributing to her cheating? No. Not at all. No. You wouldn't say all your boxes, you forgave her. Would you say that you contributed, would you take accountability for contributing to her
cheating?
No, no.
Not at all.
You wouldn't say in your mind, like,
I might've put her through a couple of things,
so I understand at this moment why she stepped out.
You wouldn't look at yourself at all.
No.
Okay, so you should.
Wait, understanding and taking accountability
for someone else cheating are two different things.
Okay, explain.
Accountability means that-
I could see the part I played in it.
Got it.
Right, like if,
what's the phrase the fucking stupid therapist said?
Like, if you have a problem
with how your significant other is showing up,
then the first thing you need to do
is check how you were showing up.
Because cheating is not,
cheating is the result of things happening prior to.
Yes, got it.
It's not true.
I don't agree with that.
He said that's what the therapist told him.
I agree with that.
I think it depends on the person.
If your girl is feeling empty,
if your girl is feeling lonely,
if you're not fucking your girl enough,
if you're not paying her enough attention,
if you're not checking certain boxes for your girl,
we all human, I understand how somebody could step out.
What happened to my mom?
What happened to my mom?
What happened to my mom?
What about the nigga?
One more, one more, one more.
Oh shit.
Everybody, what I'm saying is, isn't that an argument for taking accountability? What about the niggas? What about the niggas? What about the niggas?
What I'm saying is, isn't that an argument for taking accountability?
If I look at myself and say, look, she cheated because I was gone, she cheated because I
didn't give her attention, I didn't do all these things and she cheated, I mean, that's
a way to say, look, it's still her fault.
I'm not letting her off the hook, but I'm saying I got a role in this too.
Yes.
All right, so I agree with that.
So then that is accountability and yes, my answer to that is yes.
What about the niggas that's cheating because everything is is accountability and yes my answer to that is yes What happened to my fucking thing?
She's cheating cuz everything is okay at home, and I'm just greedy and I want some side pussy cuz shorty look with some other wife
Those are my women women do that
Why do y'all think women don't cheat cuz they greedy like us no?
Women don't cheat cuz something's lacking. That's one of the biggest misconceptions and fucking
Modern thought people aren't human beings.
My nigga, it's girls that I know that say,
yo, he too available, he corny.
He not challenging me enough.
But wait, are they married?
Are they married or just in relationships?
Yes, yes.
When you commit to somebody, whether you're in a church
or whether y'all sitting on your couch,
y'all committing to each other should be enough.
Niggas use that shit that's married or not married
as an extreme.
It's not. It's not.
But what's the ratio? What's the ratio?
When you spend several hundred thousand dollars on your wedding, it's different than just
being boyfriend.
Every wedding don't cost a several hundred thousand.
Whatever the fucking, how much you spent on your wedding?
You could have went to the Justice of the Peace and got married. If I sit on the couch
with my girlfriend and say, yo, this is what we are deciding to do. I'm giving you my word
that this is what we're doing. And she does the same thing.
Or whether we go in a church and say,
your honor, this is what we're doing.
I think your word should be your word,
whether you're in a church
or whether you're sitting in a couch.
But you're in your church.
If you're just fucking people to fuck people,
then you're immature.
And those are not the people I'm speaking to.
Yeah, sure.
No, we was talking about relationships.
There are people that are in relationships
that are cheating every single day.
All of those people that are cheating in that are cheating every single day.
All of those people that are cheating in those relationships are not cheating because something
is lacking at home.
That is a justification that niggas use to cheat.
Even when the man is, hold on Joe, even when the man is a pushover ish, the wife or the
woman is telling him or giving him signs or saying that you're a pushover, you need to
change.
Let's say a man is a pushover.
He's a pushover.
She gets away with everything. She's telling him, yo, I need you to change. I need you a man is a pushover. He's a pushover. She gets away with everything.
She's telling him, yo, I need you to change. I need you to be more assertive. Hold on. I need you to
be the man of the house. And if he ignores that, then she's liable to step out. There's still a
reason. You married him. You married him knowing he was a pushover. So now you are using that thing
as an excuse to go do something that you want it to do.
You are looking for a justification in which to do something.
If you know your wife can't cook, if you married your wife and she's fat, you can't now say,
yo, she's fat physically, so now I want to go out and find some.
You married her.
You know what I'm saying?
What if she gets fat?
What if she puts on 100 pounds later?
To Joe's point, for better or for worse, it's something that you said you was going to do. So now when it goes for the worse, you can't now use that as a justification
to go do some bullshit. I think that this kind of gets into the weeds of, you know,
people getting married for the wrong reasons or not really understanding who it is that
they get married to. I feel like the conversation is revolved. Sometimes, but sometimes people, just people,
they don't gotta be this deep,
niggas be greedy.
You can have a girl at home that's beautiful,
could cook, pussy's amazing, sex is amazing,
she's attentive, she's supportive,
she's all of those things.
She checks all your boxes.
She checks every box,
and the nigga will go fuck something.
Yo, dog, what are we talking about?
I hate when y'all do this. I hate when y'all do this.
I hate when y'all do this.
Those are not the people that we're having a conversation about.
That's what I was talking about.
No, we are having those conversations.
Because y'all said this.
Y'all said, yo, people are going to do this because of this.
And me and ICE are saying there's a whole different demo
of people that are going to do it.
We're not acknowledging that demo.
But you can't just say people.
No, because Joe said, yo, if you lacking at home
and I'm not being supportive and I'm not this and I'm not that,
then I'm leading to you cheating.
Yeah, we're not just talking about habitual cheaters
who have a problem with discipline
and can't keep their dick in the picture.
Me neither.
Then you losing me there.
Joe, there are people that might cheat occasionally.
Nobody's saying you just some harlot chick
that's just out fucking every time Dick and Harry,
or nobody's saying you just some undisciplined nigga
that's just outside wiling.
There are niggas that might have an-
If you cheat occasionally,
then you married and you took an oath,
then you are undisciplined.
True, but you said like just a whore
that's out here fucking everything.
No, there's a gray.
It's not black or white, it's not whore or virgin.
There's a lot of middle areas that people cover.
We doing a lot of unpacking,
and Shorty said that he rearranged her IUD.
That's what she said.
So I'd rather be funny.
That's what she said.
I wasn't trying to hear the rules and regulations.
He was pissing out his ass for sure.
Niggas cheat. One day, hopefully, if you grow up, that stops.
That's not to say that you'll never be put in a tempting situation,
but that's on everybody to know how to deal with tempting situations.
If that come my way, I can fall victim just like she can fall victim,
so I want to have that understanding, right, and not the fucking all police and the punishment. That's real percussion. I just have understand
It's hard. I don't cheat and my wife doesn't cheat as far as I know. I don't think I'm sure she doesn't at this point
So, you know, it's hard for me to imagine the situation where that would happen
Just off like pure carnal instinct as opposed to like something really fucked up happen over a protracted
period of time and I hope we could talk through that before we get there but if
it does I would have to I would forgive too I mean that's that that's the point
of marriage. Cheating ain't even a word I'm in the crib arguing about. Now it's being
inappropriate that's the new entertaining. It's okay listen It's okay. Listen, I'm speaking for me.
I ain't speaking for nobody else here.
Being inappropriate in what way?
That's the thing.
There's a lot of gray areas.
Everybody got different.
I got a homie who feels like, I got a homie whose wife, I should say, feels like any DM
with a woman is inappropriate.
You shouldn't be in any woman's DM. Just as an example, whereas in our line of work,
DM is a healthy form of, a normal form of communication.
So it's just-
There's mad women out there that feel like
a very normal conversation between you and another woman
is you being inappropriate.
No, how about people are just nice?
Right.
Like what do you do when just somebody nice
hits you and you respond being nice? That's not inappropriate. Not being nice. Right. Like what do you do when just somebody nice hits you
and you respond being nice?
That's not inappropriate.
Not being nice.
Women look at it.
Women look at it.
Women look at it.
Women look at it.
Women look at it.
No, she know what she doing.
Yeah.
That's not women, bro.
That's how they treat that.
That's throwing the fishing line out
and just getting a big fish.
You know, I did the, shout out to Louis J
in Beards and Bottles, I did the thing
for their live podcast over the weekend.
I seen you on the flyer, yeah.
So listen, it was mad people that I hadn't seen
in a long time.
Me and one of my homegirls had a conversation,
she said, yo, I seen you on some spots,
I couldn't say hi, because the nigga that I was with
wouldn't allow me to speak.
So it don't just be women that be on no jealousy shit.
These niggas be insecure.
These niggas are worse for sure.
Niggas are worse.
Yo, she said, yo, I couldn't speak.
I would have gotten in trouble if I spoke to you.
I'm like, yo, that's crazy.
How was your event?
Pimp school was dope.
But yeah, like dog, it don't just be women
that be doing that.
It'd be a lot of niggas that be on that jealousy
and insecure with that shit.
Oh niggas being there. We can tell them to follow him. All of that shit. I done had people women that be doing that, it be a lot of niggas that be on that jealousy and insecure with that shit. Like niggas tell me all the time.
Niggas tell me all the time.
Yes, bro.
All of that shit.
I done had people say that they girl made,
girls tell me that they do made them unfollow.
Yeah.
Wait, you don't understand that?
No.
And unfollow?
Yeah, no.
No.
I get unfollowed, blocked, all that shit.
You would never do that.
I've had a guy- I would never do what?
Make your girl not say hi to somebody that she knows.
Cause y'all in a relationship.
I don't know that I'm beyond that.
I don't know that that's above me.
I don't think so.
Like it's probably situational.
So that's why.
It might be circumstantial.
It might be circumstantial.
But the same nigga that you saying you are,
you just played your ex-girlfriend's man twice
and gayed a nigga worldwide. your ex-girlfriend's man twice
and gayed a nigga worldwide.
Not ex-girlfriend's man.
Baby daddy.
That's her ex.
Yeah, but baby daddy's a little more.
I mean, but I'm just saying, whatever the case may be,
even worse, even better.
Most men are not doing that, bro.
Most men are not secure enough to do no shit like that
and lend no shine to no other man.
That's my girl's baby daddy.
Like, I don't see you telling your girl, yo,
you can't say hi to that nigga.
That's a little bit different.
Dog, if you met somebody that's going to rearrange
your IUD every now and again.
I don't want you speaking.
That might be my line.
That's what I'm saying.
Like you went in her phone being nosy, snooping around.
That's mistake one.
Saw it in aaconda in there.
A real nigga.
Yeah, you saying some shit in there
and she was talking to him like that,
she was an anaconda.
I can see you asking her not to go to the punchline
at the prom.
Yeah, we need the IUD.
Fam, the crazy shit.
The crazy shit.
The crazy shit.
She's got to say it right there.
That part, that part.
The crazy shit is when Shorty told dude,
I wanna come see you, but I gotta go home.
Why is that crazy, Freeze?
He just, he just.
Yo, he just.
His wife gonna see this.
I'm gonna call you tomorrow, he just pulled up.
You wanna be he, yo?
You don't wanna be he.
You don't wanna be he.
I wanna come see you, but he home.
He here now.
This nigga. So, you saying you don't wanna be he here. I wouldn't come see you, but he home. He here now. This nigga.
So, you saying you don't want to be here?
I don't want to be the other dude either.
Like I want access to the person I enjoy fucking.
All right, so you being mature.
I'm on joke time.
Nigga, I'd rather be that nigga.
What?
Fuck out of here.
The lowercase E.
Fuck that.
Lowercase E.
You don't even get a capital H.
I don't want get a capital H.
I don't want us to beat this to death
because I do have another kind of relationship-y topic
to throw to y'all.
Okay.
And this is with Sade, Neo's latest baby mother.
Oh.
Oh, I was, my head was spinning for a second.
Yeah, yeah.
I thought you were getting some nigga joke.
So, I'm going to give it to you as soon as my phone loads.
All right, my phone is loaded.
This is Neo on doing an interview, I guess,
explaining how he told his kids about his poly lifestyle.
Okay.
Oh.
Oh.
About your relationship.
Of course they do.
I can answer them.
Kids have questions about that? About your relationship? Of course they do. Can I answer them? Kids have questions about that?
About your relationship?
Of course they do, and I answer them.
Yeah.
Okay.
Honesty, again, I'm not lying to nobody,
not even my children.
Hey, this is daddy's girlfriend,
and so is that, and so is that, and so is that.
You got no problems with that.
She gonna make you some cereal,
and she gonna cook lunch,
and she gonna wash your clothes.
Come on, man.
And it's all good.
Come on, man. It's family, it's community.
That's what it's about.
Well, you need your own book in the Bible,
right, between Corinthians and Ezekiel.
All right, we've heard enough from Neo at the interview.
They told that nigga he need his own book in the Bible.
Sade, friend of the show, friend of Joe,
whatever you want to call it, says,
this is disgusting parenting.
I'm sorry to everyone that this narrative is being
forced down y'all's throats. And didn't I tell your corny ass not to have that
shit going on in front of my kids? To do that cornball shit on your own time. That
shit is sick as fuck. You are hella fucking weird for that, she added him. But
I'm glad you think I'm playing with you after I done already warned you
I'm not playing about my kids.
And poly relationships aren't five plus quote unquote
girlfriends that party with you every night
so you can pick up more girls to hook up with.
That is what you call an open relationship.
You are a wanna boyfriend, I guess wanna be boyfriend,
I don't know, wanna be boyfriend slash pimp slash trick get a life oh no you like GFE I don't
know what GFE is Girlfriend Experience
Stop disrespecting Polly there's nothing exclusive about what you got going on
weirdo and I'll just be patiently waiting like this
for a motherfucker to sneeze wrong
before I dust out my receipt book
of everything under the sun.
Foot on neck now, belt to ass.
Oh shit.
Just had to make that clear.
That shit is weird and we don't condone clown parenting.
Moving on, how are y'all doing don't mind me last slide you need your fucking ass
beat belt to ass that's the problem I did want to hear where y'all stood on
that I'm with her which part on their argument on him intro on him making his
kids aware of his poly lifestyle and his multiple
girlfriends or the moms. I was about to say that was matters. I would have to
Google it. I do think they're young. Okay. Well, well, they just had a kid last
year or two years ago. Okay. So young. Yeah. I'm gonna say this. That's not
something I would do. Mm hmm. Me because I don't live a poly lifestyle.
So I think that would be inappropriate to.
Give to your kids.
But for the people that are in that particular type of lifestyle,
if that's their truth, that's the truth is like people that do porn.
Right. We look at that like, oh, that's taboo.
A lot of people introduce porn to their kids really, really, really
on early on and let them know that this is what mommy and daddy
do for work.
But there's still limits, like you don't really,
you guys are wild.
I never heard that.
I ain't gonna, I didn't hear that before.
This guy's a wild POV.
This is not my view, so what I'm telling you
is I could be objective, I could say yo,
I feel like this, but I'm not condemning them
for feeling like that.
I hear, but you draw lines, right?
Like if you introduce your kids,
I'm a porn star, you don't bring your daughter to work.
They don't bring your daughter to work,
you don't show up.
You say, here's the, that's a lot.
They don't hide it, that's wrong.
I got the ages, by the way.
I got you, I was about to say.
They don't hide it, and actually,
a lot of the porn stars, they kids go into porn.
Wait, what?
All right, yeah, I don't know what you're doing.
I know, give me the ages.
Ages, 14, 13, eight, six, three, and then,
I guess these are twins.
They don't even have the age.
But which ones are Sade's?
Isabella and Brayden are two years old,
and then Brixton is nine months old.
Okay.
That was as of a year ago, so your age is more accurate,
but that's the general age.
They're little kids up to young teens.
I think all of them are probably too young
to be introducing to this.
Not to teenagers, but the smaller kids is confusing to the smaller kids.
If I had a, actually I did have a, so when I had teenage, a teenage daughter,
if I were in that situation, I was dating at the time.
I was like, hey, I date different people. There's nobody you need to meet right now.
Correct.
To me, that's different than...
Wildly different.
Than like, yeah, I'm in a polyamorous relationship. It's actually the opposite. Right. It's the opposite. To me, that's different than... Wildly different. Than like, yeah, I'm in a polyamorous relationship.
It's actually the opposite.
Right, it's the opposite.
And to me, that's the proper way to handle it.
I understand everybody's different.
If you're in a polyamorous relationship,
like a real one where, look, I have two partners,
I think that's okay to say, these are my two partners.
But as Sade said, that doesn't sound like what he's doing.
That's exactly what was gonna go exactly there.
Her analysis is right.
He's just openly fucking a lot of people. And to say, she's gonna pour you cereal, she's gonna give you the, that shit is weird. That's like what he's doing. It sounds like. Yeah, it was gonna go exactly that. Her analysis is right. He's just openly fucking a lot of people.
And they say, she's gonna pour you cereal.
She's gonna give you the, that shit is weird.
That's not what he said.
And I had, I had this, I had Neo on my,
on my topic list before this interview
and before she replied because he looks nuts.
Yeah.
Yeah, agree.
Like, I know as a nigga nigga you ain't supposed to be able
to say, Annie, Annie, I love you, friend of the show,
been up here.
Neo looks nuts.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He looks nuts because he's sharing his lifestyle
with everyone.
He looks nuts because what he has numerous partners.
I thought all of them were the same.
It's more than showing, it's like highlighting.
Like I constantly see clips that are not just like someone filming.
It looks like PR that I have multiple girlfriends and...
He's making a spectacle of it.
He's promoting that lifestyle basically.
He's adding people to the mix. Cool.
But most importantly, nobody on the internet after a breakup
of people you've been with for X amount of years,
nobody ever just goes and sits the fuck down.
Right.
Because your way of-
We just watched you beat and shit
for the last however many years.
Go sit down for a minute.
Because with the internet,
you have to win the breakup.
So you gotta show like-
This is not winning the breakup.
This is how these niggas move though.
After we go through whatever, I gotta show that
I'm unbothered, I'm living life, I'm winning,
I got all of this happening now,
and I have to keep showing y'all that.
I think that if he's just out here fucking,
I don't think you should be introducing your kids.
You should not.
I don't think you should be introducing
the people to your kids.
If those are his quote unquote girlfriends,
which he kinda said like, yo, I got multiple girlfriends,
this will make you breakfast, this will make you lunch.
If those are his girlfriends,
and that's the lifestyle that he live in.
Then he still shouldn't be introducing them to his kids.
I think that's drastically different
than him just fucking random people.
No, even if, let's go with the latter, right?
Let's pretend they are his girlfriends.
That's what they're saying.
How long?
How long with it?
Exactly.
If you had one girlfriend that you just got with
in the first four or five months,
they shouldn't be meeting your fucking kids.
I agree.
Bro, with me and my girl.
So now you got four of them,
y'all been together for six months.
Exactly.
When me and my girl got together,
we both knew we had children.
We made a decision initially,
hey look, if we make it to a year,
then we'll introduce the kids.
Cause at that point we know we're invested,
we know we got something real here,
but if we don't hit the year mark,
I ain't meeting your kids, you're not meeting mine.
I agree with that.
And y'all talking about it should be kept
from the young kids, but maybe not the teenagers.
I'm on even more high alert with the teenagers.
Absolutely.
Agreed, definitely agree.
Especially today. Especially today, 14, look that's not. Today? So think about this, and again, I'm on even more high alert with the teenager. Absolutely. Definitely agree.
Especially today.
13, 14.
Today?
So think about this.
And again, I'm just giving an opposite perspective
for the sake of discussion.
Neo is Neo.
So in today's society, they keep a camera in everybody's face.
See, I don't roll with that.
You don't have to.
I don't roll with that.
He's powerful enough to have privacy.
There's plenty of people that's all the way up
and are private.
Yeah.
That's true.
Or have certain matters in their life, private.
I'm not mad at Neo doing what he's doing.
Let me not, I don't want to come off wrong.
I'm not mad at whatever lifestyle he want to live.
That's on him.
And he's Neo, like I actually applaud him
for saying to himself, yo, cause he been on.
I don't have to discipline the fuck with one shit.
Nio been on, I mean, don't make me say it.
He was.
So if now he's saying, yo, one relationship,
one woman is not for me, that's not how I'm on it.
This is how I wanna live my life.
Then I applaud that freedom.
Yes.
I think that that comes with a line in how you parent.
I agree, I agree.
I agree, honey, I agree with that.
Because what happens when your daughter comes
home from high school and says,
Daddy, I got a boy.
I'm in a polyamorous relationship.
I got a boyfriend and so does my girlfriend
and so does my other girlfriend.
We all got the same guy.
Like our parents say. Just like you.
You don't do what you see me do.
Right, yeah.
That's only gonna, that's not gonna go far.
I don't think that works today.
That is not gonna go far.
It doesn't work today, but it needs to.
I think it ever worked.
Y'all don't understand that kids are coming home
saying that now.
Because it's been glorified in a situation like this
where people don't seem to understand
what polyamorous relationships actually mean.
Let's say his daughter or somebody's daughter,
take it off of Neo and their family,
let's say somebody's daughter comes home at 17
and says, yo, I'm Polly.
I'm probably gonna whoop some ass.
Because now we can't stand on a,
yo, we pro this, but we not pro that
when it comes to sexuality.
Yeah, we can.
Yes, I can.
You can do that.
Yes, I can.
Damn sure can.
And if I'm that person's parent,
I'm gonna want them to define what Pollyly is and why they want to be in it.
And if they do it for me?
I'm just, I'm going to talk them through it, you know what I'm saying?
Just so I'm not making them feel like I'm judging them.
You're not Pauly under this roof. Where we living at?
I think it's perfect. I don't even have kids, but I wasn't a kid so long ago to know that your parents can be hypocritical with you.
They can.
Well, I'm not saying that as I do. But some of it is a hypocrisy though. I wasn't a kid so long ago to know that your parents can be hypocritical with you. They can
Don't we condemn that when it come to other sexual life choices
No with parenting. Yes, give me give me with teenagers if your kids came if you're doing
Your son came home and wanted to be trans now at 15 16 years old I've heard everybody up here come up here and defend that. Not everybody. Not everyone.
Oh, you're actually-
Not everyone.
You're right, Philip.
I'm just saying.
So now we drawing a line.
We drawing a line now about when your kids could come home and be open to you about their
sexual choices or their sexual preferences.
I know you can be open.
I don't think that's hypocritical at all.
Some shit we gonna go with and some shit we not.
Yeah, I don't think it's hypocritical.
I think it's hypocritical if I say, this is right for me, it's the right thing to do,
I'm not doing anything wrong.
When you do it, it's wrong.
That's hypocritical.
What I'm saying is something a little different.
I'm saying that at that age, oh, two things.
One, I don't think what Neo was doing
is actually polyamorous.
And so I think he's muddying up the water
so that when the kids follow that lead.
We offer Neo.
Or whoever.
What I'm saying is when we start using these terms loosely,
it gets messy. And I also think at that age you have to as Mel said talk through
it with them. If my 17 year old daughter had come home and said look I'm polyamorous and
that I don't know I actually don't think I would trip about that. My worry is how is
that I'm not confident that a 17 year old would have clearly know what you want and
what you want to do. But you've been an advocate and a proponent of...
When do you think is an appropriate age for them to make that determination?
Some of that is kid to kid. Some kids are more advanced and mature. Because I have two
daughters who are very different personality-wise and maturity-wise. So I don't think it's like
when you turn 18, something magically happens.
I think it depends on the kid.
But I worry that if we just say,
go do that because we're so progressive,
which I am progressive,
but we don't have any oversight to it
that it can become dangerous.
And I think people like Neo make it harder
because there are people who live very responsible,
careful, healthy, polyamorous lives.
And I think what he's doing is so messy and different
than that, that it makes it harder for everybody else
to talk about it, because they only think
just fucking everybody's polyamorous.
They don't even know what it really is.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that's why I say get off that.
If you're not an adult, and I'm a parent,
I have a hard time believing that you are now capable
of managing
Poly relationships at 17 years old. I think you got a hard time managing being with one person or just learning how to be
It's hard for adults I would imagine to manage a poly relationship
Learning a checkbook, getting a job, learning people, learning the world, learning life
Don't you ain't coming to my house at 17 talking about I'm nigga who?
So real quick and I'm not trying to be the black sheep,
but are we moving on from that other subject
because it's sensitive, meaning what he's saying,
that would you allow your child at 17, 14, 15
to come to you and say, I want a sex change?
Is that a sensitive topic that we want to move from
because he said it.
No, if you want to talk about it,
he been saying. I don't think that's to move from because he said it. No, if you want to talk about it, we can. He been saying.
I don't think that's the same, so I left it.
I didn't leave it in fear of speaking about it.
Okay, wow.
If you come to me and tell,
if my kid comes to me and tells me,
yo, I want to be a transgender,
you're having a conversation with me
about how you feel inside.
Okay.
As a person.
Okay.
That to me has nothing to do with other people
or outside people.
That's my kid telling me how they feel.
As a human.
We're also talking about a teenager potentially wanting
to modify their body as opposed to just dating someone.
Right.
It's a big difference.
It's a big difference.
Which one is way more important?
I don't know if the word is important, but.
I think it's more like high stakes.
It's more high stakes.
Maybe I used the wrong word.
We understand what I'm saying.
Consequential, yes.
But I would say, yeah, exactly.
Revealing that you're trans and wanting as gay as sex is.
We get in the borders that we don't know what we're talking about because every trans person
that's underage is not looking to get that operation done.
Most aren't.
So if we don't know what we're talking about, let's leave it at leave. And that's what Joe just said is really important because that's the misconception.
If we're just talking about how you feel inside, I'm willing to engage that conversation, have that conversation.
I agree.
If my son comes to me in five years or two years or two months and says I feel like a girl, I'm fine with that.
And I will work with that and we'll go through that. But that doesn't mean that I would allow a sex change.
I think the misnomer about trans folk
is that people are trying to give
all these trans kids sex changes.
Most of them don't get it until after 18.
And the hormone.
A lot of them don't get it.
Let me just finish this off,
let me just finish this off,
this is really important.
The hormone blocker is a thing that people often get.
But hormone blockers can be undone.
So if you get a hormone blocker
because I don't want to transition into certain things
that happen naturally to the puberty,
and then suddenly I change my mind at 14, 15, I feel differently and I'm actually not trans, I'm just queer, I'm a hormone blocker because I don't want to transition into certain things that happen naturally to the puberty. And then suddenly I changed my mind at 14, 15,
I feel differently and I'm actually not trans,
I'm just queer, I'm not trans, I'm just this or that.
You just stop taking the hormone blockers.
That's what I would do to address that point.
Because again, just like that,
it's a high-six choice to make at 13.
But how you feel inside is how you feel inside,
I'm not fighting that.
Got it.
Such a supportive parent.
I don't know, I would do something though.
Bro, you gotta be open to talk about all of that shit.
That was my whole point.
You can't condemn one and talk about the other.
But go ahead.
No nigga, I'm transgender nigga.
You can't.
Maybe we buying less snacks now, so.
No, no nigga. Yeah, you're an idiot, nigga. You can't. Maybe we buying less snacks in the house. No, no. No, nigga.
No, no.
No, no.
Yeah, you an idiot, son.
We gotta do something, gotta change now, no?
No, no.
No, already.
All right, fuck.
That's your man.
That's your man right there.
Change clothes.
Yeah.
Freeze.
No, absolutely.
Gotta have those conversations, nigga. He's right, gotta have them. And then y'all. Gotta have this conversation, man.
He's right, gotta have him.
And then y'all had a talk?
Like, how you feeling inside?
And then y'all said that to your kid?
No, no, no.
Niggas don't talk to their fucking kids at all.
No.
Yo, only on podcasts.
I would talk to them.
Yeah, we got that.
Niggas, but I don't, but y'all didn't even.
Yo, who talks to their kids, yo?
If Flipkid wasn't his cameraman,
he would talk to them motherfuckers.
I don't know when I talk to my oldest,
when he need a couple dollars.
I should call, man, how you feel inside?
So y'all got young kids, so y'all excluded from this.
You got a young kid too?
And I got a 24 and, actually,
and a one who'll be 21 on Thursday.
Oh, happy, happy birthday.
I was going to actually ask y'all.
We'll talk later.
I need some gift advice.
Okay.
Money.
It's just money now.
At 21?
At 21?
It's just money.
Look, ain't you rich?
Money.
What is the proper amount?
So I was going to give her like a fancy,
something thoughtful, like a bag.
She's been, you know, but you said just give her cash.
What is a reasonable amount of money
that won't make me look cheap,
but also isn't ridiculous?
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wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, to give her 2100, like, because she's 21. But is that cheap?
No.
No.
It's not cheap.
Oh, y'all just talking 5.
I saw 5.
No, no.
That wasn't y'all.
Not y'all.
Y'all ain't safe off.
What would you do?
What would you do?
I would have said that.
21.
2100 is first.
At 21, your kid been waiting to be 21 their whole life.
You give them a little something so they can act and feel 21
and leave you alone for a little bit
and see what they do with it.
And if $2100 don't do that.
$2,100 does not do that at 21 today in this economy.
It doesn't, sorry.
You are out of your mind.
I'm telling you it don't.
You are out of your fucking mind.
I have a kid that's over 21.
I'm telling you.
And you rich.
Stop, I don't have watches.
I'm not trying to be funny.
I don't have watches.
I know but that one, woo.
I don't have watches.
That one, why you keep saying,
I ain't gonna do that
because they're gonna think I'm focusing on me.
You have to stop saying that about me
until I get more watches.
Man, shut the fuck up, Joe.
Shut your dumb ass up.
It is true.
Bust that one down about three.
Nigga, super up, nigga.
Even.
We got you a camera telling me I'm super up, nigga.
Nigga, I'm up already, nigga.
That's a fact.
All right, so you up.
You up.
So you can give trains more than that.
I told you all about the
misconception that that spreads when we say that from this room because that gives the impression
that you where you want to be to the people that are above you and I ain't. Where you want to be
is in. That's internal. I'm not viewing it like yo are you up you up you up. No I ain't know where
I need to be. I'm nowhere near where I need to be.
I ain't at the spot where I can just go to short hill.
Let me talk.
I ain't at the spot where I can just go to short hills
and get every watch I want.
That's not where I am.
My money has to go to like important shit.
You do these magicians.
You are a magician.
Hold on, wait.
You are a magician when it comes to conversation.
You try to conflate things and deflect.
No, the contractor come out.
You talk about, hold on.
You talk about the niggas that you trying to reach to.
You don't want them to look at you like you up.
But the niggas that you are above
and the niggas that you are up compared to, you're up.
You're up, you're in a great position more than average.
You dress for where you trying to be.
Nigga, why would we don't care about the niggas
you trying to get to? That's you, that's your own goal. You have to behave.'re trying to be. Nigga, why would we don't care about the niggas you're trying to get to?
That's you, that's your own goal.
You behave, you have to behave.
See, y'all calling me crazy spreads the wrong message to the audience.
You should move, act, behave, and present and appear for where you want to go.
Not for where you at, and not, you should look like where you're trying to go, not from where you come from. I believe that. And I agree, I do too, so you're trying to go. Not from where you at and not you should look like where you trying to go not from where you come from.
I believe that. And I agree I do too. So when y'all say that in here it gives a certain impression.
I asked y'all last part what What do you think you have to do
to double your income today?
What do that guy do with you not being able
to go to Shore Hills Mall and buy any watch you want?
Nothing.
You can go to Shore Hills Mall and buy any watch you want.
You talking to me, four of them.
Exactly.
I could, it would be irresponsible.
I didn't say watch you can't.
We're not talking about the responsibility, man.
Yo dawg, you about to stop being an eye tracker.
He said he couldn't responsibly do it.
These bigas conflate my points. He said he didn't responsibly do it. These niggas conflate my points.
He said he didn't mean it.
Yo, you could, yo.
I know what he meant though.
I don't know what nobody means, Mark.
I know what they saying.
An adult knows what I meant.
Mark knows exactly what I meant.
The fuck are y'all talking about?
Yo, you a smoking mirror man.
No, he ain't.
To me.
He ain't any good at it.
That nigga picked the whole goal post up.
Do, do, do.
No, I just speak with context and nuance
and everybody don't get that. Nobody. Look at your response and everybody don't get that nobody
Mark by the way, I think that you should get her the nice bag that you were thinking of and put the $2100
Five stacks nigga. We bet that on a Sixers game
Who's we
Me and Mark. You broke ass up here, I'm talking to Mark.
I actually owe you five sacks.
I think, don't owe you a shit.
Yeah, yeah, see?
I'm glad you stopped painting the narrative of me.
Antoine, when your daughter turns 20.
No, I'm not.
Would you do that to me every week?
You come up here and paint this narrative of me
like I'm rich every fucking week,
and then you don't like what nobody's doing to you.
If we paint the narrative of you rich, you have-
Shut up, stop, stop, stop.
You have consequences, nigga.
I want, you got consequences, that's why we can't do it.
We can't tell you the truth.
What are you looking for me to say?
I want you to say, yes, you're right.
I apologize.
I take accountability for doing that.
For calling you rich?
Yes.
I don't apologize for that.
I'm not rich.
I think you're rich.
You got it.
Are you a lot?
What's that watch you had on ice?
Sky Dweller.
The Sky Dweller.
That's the one.
Yeah, that's a nice watch.
That's rich. You're not Rick, but you up.
You all the way up.
You uh.
I don't know about that.
You uh.
You uh.
You the hell.
The B-overs come together.
You the uh.
He think he the only nigga in New Jersey
that knows math or has a calculator,
and he's not.
True.
Yeah, but Corey, Corey Grant.
You don't got no numbers to put in your calculator.
Yo, let's move on.
Yeah.
I do.
No, you don't.
You have one number to put in your calculator.
I have more than one number.
And when I go home, I put more than one number in there.
They made up though.
I know what you're doing.
I see how you're moving.
It's nice.
It's attractive.
It's inspiring.
This nigga's crazy.
What's wrong with me for saying that?
How you moving is inspiring to people.
Okay.
What you bringing in, I think you could run a class
and a course and teach people, especially with the state
of the market, on what's going on out there.
You could be fucking Ian Fun Lap.
You could be, you could be fucking something,
you could be doing something.
Ian Fun Lap.
Yeah, you could be fucking' something. Being fun lappin'. Yeah, you could be fuckin' this nigga Dickey Fontaine.
I be Wall Street rapper.
Yeah, yeah.
Yo, this nigga's a Dickey Fontaine.
This nigga just make up shit, yo, stupid.
You all gonna do all this shit and then I go behind the scenes
and try to convince people out on debate, all right?
That's the problem.
And then by you doing that and putting
highlight in saying my man is up.
Yo you gotta stop.
Hold on.
I'm not in this.
I'm not in this.
I'm not in this.
I'm not in this.
That's y'all.
You put other lights on him that don't need to be on him nigga.
Shine a light on him nigga.
You put the bright lights.
This nigga just said yo I gotta go and sit in other rooms and explain to them why I'm
underpaid while he shines this fabricated, busted as
neon light on my money acting like I got more than what I got.
What the fuck you think I got to do when I go sit in other rooms?
The rooms you sit in is...
What room?
What you got?
What you telling me?
You know what you gotta say?
What you saying?
What you...
Man.
Yes, your honor.
That's the room you sit in.
Yo.
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All right with that being said at some point during the broadcast we giving
Mark Lamanna ISO for Joy Reid I don't think that's right this second before we
continue I'm gonna say rest in peace to Roberta Flack.
For sure.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace, Roberta Flack.
The legend.
Rest in peace to Al Troutwig.
For sure.
Nick's Broadcaster, that fucked me up.
That fucked me up.
And Gwen McCray.
Gwen McCray, yeah.
And Gwen McCray passed.
So rest in peace to everybody that we lost.
Again, rest in peace to Irv.
His brother Chris Gotti did an interview
talking about his last poker game
and he was eating Chinese food
and had that massive stroke.
I had heard that story in the street about the poker game.
It's just sad.
Food is killing us, man.
I ain't gonna hold you.
I thought-
Jerry Butler too.
Singer.
Soul singer.
Rest in peace, Jerry Butler.
Yeah, I thought about, again, Irv and Clark and everybody
when I went to go get that full body MRI.
So rest in peace.
I encourage everybody out there.
Check on your health. check on your health.
Check on your health, health is wealth, don't be afraid of the doctor. Just go.
Just go. Just go. That's it.
It was tough to hear about Roberta Flack in the circumstances, her age, her dying from
getting her back kicked in here on the JVP last week.
She actually lost her battle with,
fuck, hate, not hate.
You monsters, y'all tore her up last week.
She died of a broken heart.
We did not kill Roberta Flack.
I need to investigate this, man.
Do y'all feel like shit that the last thing y'all said
about Roberta Flack was that she was elevator music?
How do you feel about that, King Wawa?
Don't look at your phone now.
You ain't got nobody to call. How do you feel about that, King Wawa? Don't look at your phone now.
You ain't got nobody to call.
How do you feel about that?
Do you feel bad?
No, Roberta Flack is a black grape.
You can do what you want, nigga.
You didn't sign?
You didn't sign?
You didn't sign?
You didn't do what you want, nigga?
I didn't know I ain't sign.
Oh, you didn't?
You did?
Clear it up?
It's not, it's not.
Clear it up, clear it up.
Why do I gotta clear it up?
Because if we say you didn't and we made a spectacle about it you should come up here and say
No I shouldn't. I should tell the spectators. Oh you want the narrative to run that you didn't?
In my hood they say spectators get spit on. With some old school shit from the 40s.
I don't know.
I'm talking about it.
It's too crazy.
Strumming my pain.
Speaking of hoods right, I bumped into a list of the...
Oh my God.
You bumped into what?
Well yeah, because I follow all of the New Jersey pages.
Like New Jersey News, New Jerus, this, Jersey, that, Garden State, this.
I follow all of them.
It'd be really interesting New Jersey news,
but I bumped into one that wanted to tell me about
the five dirtiest places in New Jersey.
You saw that?
I'm going to play it for y'all, but I do disagree with it.
Let me hear it.
All right, fuck it.
Which is the dirtiest place to live in New Jersey?
Most New Jerseyans know that the cleanest place to live in New Jersey? Most New Jerseyans know that the cleanest place
to live in New Jersey is Ridgewood.
So, which is the dirtiest place to live in New Jersey?
You got the little horror soundtrack going on?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Patterson struggles with trash disposal,
abandoned buildings, poor sanitation enforcement,
illegal dumping, and industrial pollution.
I agreed with this one.
Patterson is dirty. Water and overall cleanliness is damaged. That's a silk city illegal dumping an industrial I agreed with this one
Water and overall cleanliness
fourth place
Which is the dirtiest place to live in New Jersey
Aging infrastructure and poor sanitation caused trash buildup I don't know enough about this thing to know where to call littered streets. What part flooding that worsens?
It's ever parts per se for sure.
Third place, Elizabeth.
Oh, Elizabeth's industrial over crowding and for waste management cause air, water and storm water pollution.
Littered streets and declining local environmental quality.
In the second place, Jersey City.
Oh, shit.
Wow.
Hessex.
Watch your fucking mouth about your littered streets industrial pollution
Hold on number one before announcing the first place comment in the no
First with air pollution litter industrial waste
illegal dumping aging infrastructure and high crime worsened sanitation issues
Smog and neglected public spaces are we going that's Newark
So wait Camden and Trenton weren't on that's my jersey. Oh, it's not stop Camden is Jersey
That's fake I don't believe it Newark and Jersey City should be on this list
Not the one to release Irvington not being on his list is probably that should be number one is Bay root, man
That should be number one. Irvington is Babe Ruth, my niggas.
Irvington should be on the list.
Irvington is, I know that.
Irvington is fucked up.
Newark ain't Newark anymore.
I ain't been to East Orange.
With all of them cities, they all big as hell.
I ain't been to East Orange in a while.
East Orange, no, not even close.
They cleaned it up?
Not even close.
East Orange ain't going to be in the with it. All right. All right.
Let them live.
East Orange ain't going to be in the top ten.
Top ten.
Let them live.
North need to be number one.
You do that, nigga.
Irvington, New Jersey is number one.
Nah, man.
Nah, Patterson and Camden got it.
All right, it's a global broadcast.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I don't want to focus on New Jersey.
I just thought that one and two for us three was... Yeah, that was a little crazy.
Okay, anything in music that we need to get to.
Yes.
Who wants to tell Rolling Stone to shut the fuck up? Yo, I think... Hey, Rolling Stone, shut the fuck up. It was so little crazy. Okay, anything in music that we need to get to? Who wants to tell Rolling Stone to shut the fuck up?
Yo, I think-
Hey, Rolling Stone, shut the fuck up.
It was so- Please.
Rolling Stone says, I'm not even gonna read it
from the thingamajiggy.
Rolling Stone says that Thriller was damn near perfect album
until they got to Lady and My Life.
You know, it was part of the 50 worst songs
on great albums list they made.
And the Lady and my life came number 20
They said the lady in my life. Not only was the worst song on Thriller, but a horrible choice to end the album with
This is what I don't remember the song
You've heard it you know what you've heard it on the regal you've heard it. He's a voice to men. Yes
I got it. You've heard it. He's a voice to me. Yes
Migrant no, I mean now you right I was born here you fucking weirdo
You boy, but they're bugging
Great way to see what just let mellow you right on out. Go ahead, go home. Oh, god.
Roll the still got shit to fuck up.
Ayy.
There'll be no darkness tonight.
Come on now.
Yo, this song is fine no matter where you place it
and no matter what R&B album you place it on
Let's go real quick 40 and up 50 and up out there
Oh my god. I can make your feeling more right. Through your band. And maybe through the years.
Gonna love you more each day.
So I promise you tonight.
That you will always be the lady you're mine.
Here's what fucks me up about this.
Blasphemy.
The thing is, if you wanted to make, and I love Thriller, if you wanted to pick one off
Thriller, there is a song, all you had to do is say the girl is mine.
Yeah, get Paul McCartney the fuck out of here.
Get Paul McCartney the fuck up out of here.
That song did not age well.
We can't say.
No, I'm saying it's cool.
They're not going to say that.
But I mean, the song is, to me, that one always felt out of step with the album. It's a little bit corny. It doesn't age one
It's not a terrible song, but if you had to pick one off a thriller, that's the one you pick off and
Monica and Brandy smoke Mike and Paul McCartney's body. Yeah easy. They smoked a boots. Yeah
I'm looking at the whole list. They did get one right up here though. E-Mans. E-Mans.
They got uh, Drunken Hot Girls.
Get the fuck out of here.
I'm a level-headed fighter.
What about Drunk Hot Girls?
I was making sure it was on the list.
He's right. He's right.
In terms of what?
Terrible songs on great albums.
Terrible songs on great albums.
Howie Fetzel.
That song is hard.
That song should not have been on that album.
That song is hard.
It's a mess.
What's the song, Ays?
Drunken Hot Girls.
Did they get Drake's birthday song?
Happy Birthday?
Ratchet, Happy Birthday?
Is that on there?
It's your fucking birthday, girl it's your birthday today.
But it said on great albums though.
Yeah, but I say it.
What album is that?
Scorpion.
Scorpion.
Scorpion.
It's that great album.
I like that album.
I got Bad Blood up here by Taylor Swift.
Yeah, I get that.
Yeah, they got Bad Blood on there by Taylor Swift.
I love Bad Blood.
I like Bad Blood.
Y'all tripping.
I like that song.
They're tripping. You know Bad Blood. Take me Taylor Swift. Yeah, they got Bad Blood on them by Taylor Swift. I love Bad Blood.
I like Bad Blood.
It's y'all trippin'.
I like it.
They fuckin' trippin'.
They trippin'.
You know Bad Blood.
They kill Bad Blood.
You definitely know Bad Blood.
I'm also not asking Roland Stone about their opinions on this thing.
I think they be doing trolley shit
just for conversation purposes.
That's the game now.
Yeah, I hate this.
That's what all this is made for.
That's why I hate music journals.
Clicky shit, clicky shit.
It's a joke.
Rage baiting. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. It's rage baiting, that's exactly what it is. That's why I hate music journalists. Clicky shit. Clicky shit. It's not. Rage baiting.
Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
It's rage baiting, that's exactly what it is.
Yeah, no, that's true.
They ain't in my life.
Just get in my life.
Shit.
That's fun.
That's crazy.
Better go down right now.
What was number one, if that was number 20?
Just out of curiosity.
That blood was 14.
I'd be curious to hear the top 10 in general.
I'll give you the top 10 real quick.
Let's go, Freese.
10, The Stooges, We Will Fall.
Who knows? Nine, The Beatlesooges, We Will Fall. Who knows?
Nine, The Beatles, Good Morning, Good Morning.
Eight, The Who, Silas Stingy.
Nine is white ass, isn't it?
Yeah, exactly.
Seven, The Beach Boys, Student Demonstration Time.
Oh my God.
Six, Simon and Garfunkel, Voices of Old People.
Stop.
Five, Black Sabbath, FX.
Four, Elton John, Jamaica Jerkoff.
What?
Three, Guns N' Roses. Wait, what? Wait, wait, what? Wait, slow down, go back to that one. Fx for Elton John Jamaica jerk off what three guns and roses
That's the only here is trash that it's trash. Yo, I'm not. Trash?
That was on Yellow Brick Road, I believe.
Yeah, oh damn.
What about Yellow Brick Road?
Three is Guns N' Roses, My World.
That song is trash too.
Two is Pink Floyd, Seamus.
And one is The Police, Mother.
And that's why they would never get rid
of Paul McCartney on that list.
That's what I would.
Yo dawg, keep Michael Jackson off your white ass list, man.
That list was extra white.
Super white.
I don't even know some of them shits.
I don't.
Yeah.
And, and, and, and Vidalago.
Yo.
And Vidalago, yeah, extra white.
White remix?
Yo, this guy is a fool.
Um, all right, so we said fuck Rolling Stone.
What else in music do we need to get to?
Y'all want to do J Cole versus Freddie Gibbs. We could do it. Yeah. Yeah, let's do it. I'm not mad at it
Like well, why are we doing it? It's Freddie Gibbs versus J Cole
Yeah, why are we doing that?
Well gives been shooting that coal
pretty much I
Think I think it opened the door to say you can't keep talking about how well you rap
and how you rap better than everybody if you won't engage.
Because that's the spirit of hip-hop.
And I don't think it's, I think that's a little misconception.
I don't think Cole won't engage. He just didn't want to get in that.
I also don't think that battling is necessarily the entire spirit of hip-hop exactly
It might not be the entire spirit, but it is one of the pillars pillars
Gotta be battle-tested man to be to be up there all of the greats that we name are battle-tested
Yes, that's up. That's that's one of. Is Rakim Brown battle tested? Yes.
Is Andre battle tested?
I mean, like it's some great things.
Don't get me started.
All right, so Freddie Gibbs tweeted out the yawn emoji.
Then he said, niggas be rapping about how they kill rappers
and yada yada yada careers and blah blah blah
but be backing out of rap beefs.
All right, so Freddie Gibbs did go on a little
run of Instagram reels,
putting font on a black screen when J. Cole dropped Clouds.
All right, so that's how we got here.
Yeah.
And then a lot of-
And I guess, yeah, Freddie Gibbs has been-
And then people are saying, this is the right person.
Like, hey Cole, make an example out of somebody
that's a formidable opponent.
Why not him? That you don't have a personal relationship with, you know, that an example out of somebody that's a formidable opponent. Why not him?
That you don't have a personal relationship with,
you know that the Kendrick and Drake shit
was gonna go way left.
So if you want somebody that's a formidable opponent,
cause he is, he goes, he goes.
Let's see what you got.
And I do agree with Cole says a lot of like,
I'll take any of y'all heads off, I'm him, you gotta get in the ring at some point.
You can't walk around saying,
yo, I'll knock any nigga out in here.
And then when somebody says, all right, what's up?
Just can't do that.
That's fair.
It's still weight classes.
It is.
So you saying what?
I'm saying that there's still weight classes.
I agree with that.
So if I'm boxing.
Are you saying they're not different weight classes
We talked about just rapping I feel like we've had this talk here before and I said that before
That they're not always are we talking about just right? That's all we talking about. This is just rap
Yeah, they in different weight classes who's in a higher weight class J Cole
It's only one up I think they're pretty close to the same weight class.
It's only one up.
In just rapping.
Pretty close, it's not the same weight class.
It's one up.
It's one up.
I think they're in the same weight class in just rapping.
Freddie Gibbs is my man and he listens to this part.
I don't want to come off of taking the other side in this.
I just never heard anybody put Freddie Gibbs
in J Cole's weight class.
I'm not just speaking for me.
And that's why I think niggas are shooting.
Like yo dog, you be getting more than other niggas
that's out here putting pen to pad.
Show me.
Who have we heard Freddie Gibbs battle?
I was about, no.
I was gonna say it too.
Yeah.
It don't matter. I'm here.
She does matter.
Why?
I'm here now.
Stop it.
He hasn't battled that.
I know. Stop it.
No, that's not true.
I got some records.
We got records where he popping his shit
and talking his shit and we can assume who it's about.
Those exist, right?
Like it's a bunch of-
But the other person got engaged to make it a battle.
That's my point.
And can we make the same conversation about Cole?
Yes. Yes.
Well that's what they were doing kinda.
That's why I asked it about Gibbs.
Cause if a formidable opponent were to say something
to Cole, like Gibbs is, I'm not mad at that,
but if you saying, yo, you not battle tested,
you ran from the fucking battle, you ain't smoking nothing,
then I'm looking at you like, all right, who you smoked?
I might've shot that nigga, but I shot them.
I shot them.
I'll let my gun go, pause.
No, that's not a pause.
All right, all right, that's fair.
Yeah, yeah, you gotta prove it.
Like you saying this, like I said,
Cole is the one running around saying,
I'm out anybody, I'm that nigga.
All right, well, somebody wants to,
you gotta show me now.
So somebody gonna stand up and say I get.
Y'all know that and, oh man, I should just shut the fuck up.
I don't never mind, I ain't talking.
Well, good.
You get paid to talk.
I get paid for y'all to talk.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
He got here, he got here.
No, that's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah, he got it. No, that's a great one.
Yeah.
Pfft.
I ain't never heard his not respond.
I don't know what the fuck to do.
I responded.
I guess, I guess.
Tsk tsk tsk.
Tsk tsk tsk.
He texted his attorney.
Y'all know that in hip hop,
the bigger guy gets to,
if I'm Tank Davis,
I get to turn down this fight.
Of course.
But you gotta fight at some point though.
Exactly.
I don't think it should be a strike
on J. Cole's record for turning down a Freddie Gibbs invite.
I think it looks worse if you take it.
You gotta strike somebody.
But I don't have to strike the person
that show up to my door seemingly trying to get hit.
Ice, here's the other thing for me.
If after backing out of Drake and Kendrick,
you then step into Freddie Gibbs,
it might look like you got picks.
Yeah. Yeah, that's true.
That's not true.
I'm just saying that's how I look.
No, no, that's not true.
I'm saying that's how I would look at people.
That's how I look at me.
No, because you got a legit reason
why you didn't jump in that fight.
And he explained it.
If you didn't have that, then yeah, it would. But you got a legit reason why I didn't jump in that fight. And he explained it. If you didn't have that, then yeah it would.
But you got a legit reason why I didn't jump in that fight.
Y'all don't think, again, I'm not trying to rep for Cole.
Y'all don't think that,
y'all don't think it's possible that he could think
that that fight might lower his cash at?
No.
It could.
You're crazy.
I think right now.
You're crazy.
Listen.
You think about the Freddie Gibbs one?
I think it does the opposite.
Yes, yes.
Thank you.
Because I'm this, if I'm me and I'm all the M's up in the world and I'm doing things by
my rules and my book and I'm independent and I was in that top three talk, no matter how
y'all feel about how I handled it, it was a designated top three.
Legitimate. And now my very next contest is Freddie Gibbs.
I could see him feeling like just in namesake and likeness,
that's not where I wanna be mixed up at.
It's some of these podcasters every day
that be shooting at me,
showing up to the door to get hit.
Hold up homeboy.
They're not Freddie Gibbs.
It's not that I feel like I can't kill you
with the snap of a finger.
It's that me even snapping my finger to you
make me look like, yeah.
So when you snap your finger to me.
But wait, hold on.
So why you keep running around saying,
I'll snap my finger, yo.
I'll snap my finger, dawg.
Don't make me do it.
Don't make me do it.
It's art of expression.
I don't want to strip MCs of their ability
to talk to a hypothetical opponent. True. A lot of expression. I don't want to strip MCs of their ability to talk to a hypothetical opponent.
True.
A lot of people-
But you're the same person that came in here and said,
yo, MCing is based on this, this, this, this, and this.
So now if we take that out, stop saying it.
What you woulda did?
Stop, it's not fair.
It's not fair.
I'm not-
You know what I woulda did.
That's not fair.
I'm not even gonna lead you to that standard.
What I'm saying is this,
Kendrick, Drake, Cole are listed as the victory.
So anybody under those two niggas
which you wouldn't shoot at
would be four, five, six, seven, and eight.
So now you're saying, yo, I'm not gonna come down
to shoot at nobody beneath me.
And I'm not shooting at them either.
But the point is, and I'm not no disrespect
to Freddie Gibbs again, I'm a huge fan.
What I'm saying is if Gibbs is six, maybe,
but if he's 25.
He's not 25.
He's not 25, he's not 25, he's just rappers.
He's not 25.
But I'm not 25, one, and two,
what if J. Cole's statement earlier
about the Drake and Kendrick beef,
we only taking it to apply to that.
What if that's a blanket statement about beef?
Then to Freddie Gives point is,
stop running around here saying like,
you'll murder any of these niggas
I don't think that's fair. I feel like I feel like I understand it. I understand it. I'm not arguing against it
There's a lot of people that's like you I don't want to hear that talk from Cole no more until you engage with somebody
But the peaceful niggas hold up for a minute flip the peaceful niggas while they go in the booth should have the freedom
To explore any type of
bar that they want to explore without somebody taking it personally or feel
like I'm talking to them. Also killing someone can mean a bunch of different
things. It doesn't necessarily mean you want to battle head-to-head, pause if
applicable. I'll kill you on any song. Put me on a song with anybody. I'm
gonna kill them. To me I feel like it's risk versus reward. If Cole wins we
expect him to win. If he loses it puts a stain on See, I didn't want to say that to Santa way,
but if I'm J. Cole sitting in North Carolina somewhere,
what do I gain from that?
Letting you niggas know the stuff.
Yo, all right, so this is Jay-Z Bar for everything.
Once you get tag lame, the games follow the leader.
So now, you respectfully stayed out of the other shit.
I think that was a logical and rational move for him to do. respectfully stayed out of the other shit.
I think that was a logical and rational move for him to do. But now the rest of you little niggas,
if I'm looking at you like little niggas,
not gonna keep playing me.
One of y'all gonna get punched in your face.
It's like running around niggas smacking your hat off.
Right, you in school, niggas smacking your hat off.
You know you can beat them.
All right, cool.
I'm sure your hat got smacked off.
Way more than mine, man. Chill out. Well, you was four for one. That's what they do. You smack your hat off? I'm sure your hat got smacked off. My hat got smacked off. Way more than mine.
Yeah, bro, got smacked off.
Chill out.
Well, you was four for one.
And?
You were shorter.
And?
You think Ice Hat got hit off his head more than yours?
My hat didn't get hit off.
My hat didn't either, sir.
But go ahead.
Finish your point, though.
You ain't have a hat on.
I wouldn't.
You ain't have a hat on.
They want to make some eight and a half.
He had his helmet.
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So?
The only part I disagree with in your shit,
yes, we all clown J. Cole for the apology.
I don't feel like everybody has tagged him as lame.
Y'all know who the fuck Jermaine Cole is.
Indeed.
You didn't hear what I said.
I said once you get tagged lame,
the game's followed.
I don't think that's happened to J Cole yet. That's happened.
I think he's saying if Gibbs and other people keep doing that,
he don't respond, that's what's going to happen.
So he got to stop that by pushing back.
He got to let people know that.
I think that Cole along with Kendrick.
He became an easy target to shoot at.
I don't think Cole is operating amongst the normal confines
of hip hop rules.
I don't.
Can I ask a question?
I agree with that.
I agree with that 1,000%.
Who is a formidable opponent for J Cole?
Yo.
Who's in his weight class?
I'll try to answer that.
Again, I don't think J Cole wants to beef with anybody.
Okay.
That's my opinion, but I'll do it to engage.
Nobody.
Nobody.
We said it at the same time, nobody.
Cool. Nobody. So we said it at the same time, nobody. Cool.
Nobody.
So that's what we saying.
If I'm not fighting Drake, if I'm not fighting Kendrick.
Nobody.
I'm saying nobody, I still say I don't think
he would want to do that with anybody out there.
Cool.
Yo, niggas that grow to dreads.
And don't care about jewelry and none of that other shit.
Yo, if you came in the game with a Caesar,
seriously, cause some of these niggas just came in
with the baby dreads, no hang time,
looking stupid and dusty and poor.
Talk about it.
But if you came in with a Caesar.
Got your Bob Marley bag.
And in a few years, you not only started the dreads,
but went through the weird transition of it looking stupid.
A box braids first?
You had to look stupid for at least six years or some shit.
You know who else came in the game with Cesar
and got dreads now?
Ho.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
And that don't apply to him.
I don't know if that.
What are you talking about?
Ho shot at niggas way down here,
just because none of y'all are gonna play with not dread hoes.
Oh yeah, before the dreads. Before the dreads. I'm just saying before the dreads.
Cesar Cole, Dred Cole, niggas, no no no niggas shot. We were shooting at Cole. He shot back.
We were shooting at Cole. He didn't always shoot back. Yes he did.
Who didn't he shoot back at? Cole shot a little bit though too. He didn't shoot back at Joe?
He shot back at Joe. No. He shot back at Joe. shot a little bit though too. He didn't shoot back at Joe?
He shot back at Joe.
No.
He shot back at Joe Ceylon.
He said, you set your little ass up.
That's what I'm saying.
And then every now and then he'll remind him.
Yo, let me see your reminder again little nigga.
Just in case you forgot.
Fuck outta here nigga.
And give me your beat.
Yo, he didn't know.
I didn't even talk about that one.
No, I was talking about all of them.
You were talking about my reminder.
Yeah.
But not just Joe, I mean he shot back at fucking Jim Jones.
He did.
Cole shot at Wale and Ye and them on that shit where he's in the back of the bus.
The false prophets shit.
The false prophets shit.
He did.
He did.
And I'll see what the game is.
There we go.
Yeah, false prophets.
Let's go, Parks.
And he shot at Kanye.
Yo, you heard my feelings, Ye.
He did.
That's a shot.
I don't think that niggas in the rap game is running around looking at J. Cole like he's sweet
I don't I don't care what they say in that booth. I don't know nobody thinks he's sweet
I don't think Freddie Gibbs thinks he's sweet. I think Gibbs is only even approaching it this way cuz he knows the opponent that he's talking to
But I think Gibbs is also confident that hey if he engaged I'm really let's go. I can hold my own
Yeah, I don't think he's sweet, but I ain't sweet. Yeah, Gibson Cole is fucking- He's on his Joe Bunshit.
Me and Drake.
Yeah, he's on his Joe Bunshit.
It's me and Drake.
But them niggas knew not to play sweet.
They good.
No, by the time I did that, I already had a track record
of whatever you want to call it, 40 and two.
Like whatever you, it's a record.
Say no more, say no more.
It's a substantial-
Hold on, you document it.
Hold it too.
Get your shit off.
Lil B and Arsehole.
Lil B. Some people feel like I lost the it true. Get your shit off. Lil B. Lil B.
Some people feel like I lost the game. He lost to Arce and Lil B.
Some people feel like that button, button, button,
button shit was effective.
I ain't mad, shout out the game.
My career is over.
It was effective.
It was effective.
Oh, Lil B is.
I smoked game's boots.
I loved it.
It was great.
I didn't play with niggas.
But that don't matter, it ain't about me.
My point is, by the time that happened,
I got a record out there.
I wasn't saying that-
And that you would engage.
Yeah, I wasn't saying that just zero and zero.
I got you.
Niggas ain't wanna fuck with you.
Everybody that's zero and zero gotta shut the fuck up.
That's not true?
Yes, it is.
Cause guess what?
You gotta get in the ring to get one and oh.
Gotta fight one.
And then two and oh. And then two and 0.
Yup.
And then three and 0.
Go spar, get one.
Go get one.
Fight back.
I'm not just swinging.
No, no, your first fight ain't J Cole.
And J Cole's first fight ain't him.
This is not his first fight.
I don't think this should be either one of their first fight.
This is not his first fight.
Even if they was gonna fight,
it's a fight that should be led up to.
This ain't a first fight.
These niggas don't want to fight no more.
Then everybody shut the fuck up there.
And I ain't gonna lie, these little niggas be shooting.
That's why we talk about the rappers right now.
We talk about the little Wale, Big Show.
I got a list of niggas that I think just on sheer marketing should go smoke something.
I got a list of people that it don't need to be no problems with nobody.
You should wake up and just go pick somebody and smoke.
And that's exactly what you would do,
especially if your career fell off a little bit,
I'll lie a couple of niggas you named.
I've been trying to gas a nigga to do that for months.
Let me go show these niggas how I go.
Yo, just fire, nigga.
Wale, could you go in and smoke somebody?
I'm keeping Big Sean out of this
because I've seen him attempt to smoke a cig outside.
And he in a different space, you know,
with his old mental, all that stuff that he's on,
the therapy drugs.
I think Sean's the one.
I'll leave Sean alone.
I think Sean's the one.
I wouldn't mind me tanning somebody up.
That whole class from last decade,
I wouldn't mind if they mixed it up.
They too quiet for me.
Say what you want about Drake and Kendrick
and all these niggas.
In 2024, shit got active.
That's true. Absolutely.
Sure did.
And boy was it entertaining.
Yeah, go get active.
If the two biggest niggas could get in the ring
and start fighting, any of y'all niggas could do it.
That's true.
And they don't even gotta go where they shit went.
That was personal.
They ain't like each other.
That was personal.
Niggas could just rap.
Sure, I agree with it.
J. Cole ain't coming outside with Freddie Gibbs.
And if he come outside at the wrong bar,
then Freddie Gibbs might, I mean it's not worth it.
Hit him with a bottle?
Yes.
Yes, niggas rap.
He can rap his ass off.
Both these niggas can rap,
which turned into a discog for discog thing online.
I'm not doing it.
Me neither.
I'm not doing it.
Nope.
Good luck to both of those gentlemen.
I'm minding my business.
In the event that y'all mix it up,
I will be by a speaker.
And waiting to go to a microphone.
No, no, no, no, no. I ain't going, well yeah, I ain't waiting to go to a microphone. Oh yeah, to talk about the part about it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no.
I ain't going.
Well, yeah, and waiting to go to a microphone.
Oh, yeah, to talk about, part about.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.
For sure, for sure.
We know not that microphone.
It's not your bag no more.
Joe, you are the- You're doing a lot of highlighting of what's not in my bag today.
I was just about to say- Watches, raps.
That's not true.
You're doing a lot of highlighting of what's not in my bag.
Big me up.
That's not true.
Your watch is amazing.
I just said your watch is amazing.
I just said your watch is amazing.
I just said your watch is amazing.
I just said your watch is amazing.
I just said your watch is amazing. I just said your watch is amazing. I just said your watch is amazing. I just said your watch is amazing. I was just about to say, watches, raps. That's not true. You're doing a lot of highlights.
I was not in my bag.
That's not true.
Your watch is amazing.
I just said your watch costs more
than anybody watching it.
But you keep saying watch.
Watch.
I don't know of another watch that he got.
You're making me mad.
You got another watch.
You gotta go buy some shit.
Watches.
You gotta go buy some shit.
They say gangsters.
And I didn't know where your two losses came from,
so that was me bigging you up.
I didn't know nobody that smokes you in the rap.
Big me up in a manner to where it won't be confused
by some of the audience.
Make it direct, like a kindergarten listener.
I said, yo, where your two losses?
You said 40 and two, I said where the two?
I thought you was about 35 and 0 from my book.
There you go.
I think I never lost.
He ain't B. Hove. Hove ain't bad on me. I'm 21, who the fuck you was about 35 and 0. From my book. There you go. I think I never lost. It ain't B. Hove.
Hove ain't battled.
I was 21.
Who the fuck are you talking about?
Hove did that.
Oh, shit.
But the shoe fly.
Shoe fly?
Yeah, he went to shoot down.
Listen, if you come outside and I come outside
and the battle is over and then six, seven, eight years later
you come back when I'm minding my business and say,
if you need a reminder, Joe butt is a bum ass nigga,
then yeah, I feel like I did all right at 21, 22 years old.
Tall task too, by the way.
You have to understand, it wasn't a battle.
Tall task at 22 years old.
But if I call you Sean Bradley.
Dealing with the best rapper in the world.
Yeah, that's what I say, it wasn't a battle.
Kind of, you know, go ahead, go sit down somewhere.
I'll sit and bar this nigga tomorrow.
And you won't. I'll sit and bar this nigga tomorrow. And you won't.
I will sit and bar this nigga tomorrow.
I'll go off on the banner.
Suit me up.
And you won't.
Suit me up.
Oh, man, this guy's a nutcase.
Let's see what else is out there in music.
All right, there is a word written up there
that I won't say, but we already reported that Diddy's attorney stepped back, stepped down from the case.
He said he did that because he couldn't morally continue with what he knew. The whole internet tried to guess what it is that he couldn't know.
I'm not going to play that game because it's too big of a broadcast. What I will say to y'all is,
to y'all is, you know what, I'll just say it, I ain't gonna ask y'all shit.
If I did some shit, just foul,
and I get a defense attorney, I want you to defend it.
That's your job.
No, look, or even, maybe.
I'm coming to tell you the truth about what I did
so you could defend it.
Find a defense.
It's not for you to pull out your moral compass and tell me that you can't continue yada yada
yada yada.
But there are.
Here's the problem, legally you can't do that, right?
It depends on unless you're mounting an affirmative defense.
In other words, if I'm going on trial for murder and you my attorney Joe and I say,
yeah, I killed him, you now cannot defend me as not guilty.
It's not true.
Well, not guilty is It's not true.
Well, not guilty is not the only defense.
That's what I just said, right?
So if our, but if my defense was,
I ain't do that shit, it wasn't me,
you got the wrong person.
And I'm supposed to be the one that did it.
And then somehow you bump into information
where you can no longer deny
that you know that I did it.
We can either change the defense strategy.
To self defense or crime of passion or something like that.
Right, we call it affirmative defense.
That's why I did it here.
That's called affirmative defense.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, but you can't suborn perjury,
so you can't then go out there
knowing as an officer in a court that I did some shit.
I'm not saying that's what happened with Diddy,
I'm just saying that's where lawyers sometimes pull back
because they no longer can have plausible deniability.
That's why lawyers often say don't tell me shit.
So I should tell you.
I didn't know that. I should lie to my lawyer.
Yeah, I didn't know that.
I want to be defended.
A lot of the mom's lawyers, they knew the truth that they still went and came for the
defense.
But if they ever got caught doing that.
Oh, if they got caught?
Right.
And so it's possible.
And again, I don't know.
But what about lawyer and client confidentiality?
Right.
But I, so you can defend me in a way
that doesn't invite me to say something
that you know isn't true.
Gotcha, okay.
You can raise reasonable doubt without getting me to say.
Got it.
Like you can't bring me to the stand
and question me and say, did you do it?
And I say, no, you know I did it.
Cause then you play on a party.
You used to be born in Perjury, exactly.
Gotcha, gotcha, right. That's what. All right, that makes sense. That makes sense, that makes sense. You're still born in perjury, exactly. Got you, got you.
Right.
All right, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
That makes sense.
Yo.
And we don't know if that's what happened with Diddy's thing.
What Diddy's lawyer said that people are reading too much
into is he said, under no circumstances
can I effectively defend him anymore.
That language people read as, you know.
What I found out was so horrendous that I might morally
am against it.
And that's not necessarily the case.
The reason when you withdraw as an attorney
at this stage in the game, the trial is in May.
You have to be able to present not just to the court,
but to the potentially the Bar Association
that you have, that there's no way
you can responsibly defend this person.
It could be for a lot of reasons.
It could be, I got surgery
and I'm gonna be away for three months.
There's no way under any circumstances
that I could defend him well.
My family has some shit going on.
I can't possibly give this case as much attention as me.
Exactly.
But this is the problem with that.
And I said this last week.
I think that when you come out and you put out
this ambiguous language, you open up
the door to speculation.
And we know that the media game is piranhas in the water just
waiting around for something to chew on.
I think that that was irresponsible of him.
And I think that is going gonna weigh negatively on Puff.
But here's the thing, I was just gonna say,
I don't know if he put it out in the public
or if that's what he said to the judge,
which you have to do.
Which was then made public.
Which you have no choice to do.
True, true, true, true.
Like I just think that don't build well for Puff.
You know what I'm saying?
Because it looks bad.
And it might be nothing,
it might have absolutely nothing to do with his case.
Could have something to do with the lawyer.
Well, in other egregious music news,
I know what y'all was doing this week.
Anybody happen to see that Murder for Hire on the timeline?
No.
No.
Yes.
Saw it.
I'm not going to say the young lady's name, but all right.
The dolls are mad at cash doll cuz she went on
Shannon sharp shit and said how she felt about all these other dolls okay and she
challenged anybody who was feeling a way to get in the booth and rap and rap sure
like Freddie Gibbs doing mm-hmm but agent doll who I think is unfair to her
that the very first time we speak about her on the broadcast is under this light
Like if we don't speak about people I like to just not speak about them, but I just thought this was so wild
Asian doll says now is call FBI and the police laugh my ass off
Bitch said she was gonna slap me on stage, and I said I was gonna kill her now
I'm wrong laughing my ass off this bitch was going to die in real life
I told my niggas we gonna let her do her show. She got kids with her just for the bitch to get on Twitter
the next day popping it. And then somebody said died for what? Didn't she
just troll me and say she left my city untouched? And I showed her why why she
left my city untouched. You didn't see the bitch start with me or I'm just
saying shit out of nowhere. You hoes pick and choose and that's why
I don't give a fuck.
See now somebody on the internet,
and that's why the internet needs a break.
It's more than that though, she deleted something.
She put the screenshot up.
I know, I'm not touching that.
We don't need to get into it.
She posted something that could be seen as evidence.
Got it, okay.
And that's why, just the trolling shit, I'm not.
Trolling?
I'm not.
Doug, niggas need crook 101.
Like I ain't gonna lie, niggas need crook 101.
Yo, when we was running around young,
niggas was doing their best to hide the shit
that they was doing.
Now these niggas will show you,
yeah, I killed them on 34th Street,
right under the stoplight.
Over there, yeah go look.
It's a bullet casing right there in the bushes.
Like they, and then we be mad and we come up here
and we cape for niggas when they get life
or when they be on trial for life.
When these niggas is telling you the crimes
that they committing and bragging about the shit on records.
But you don't think that if social media existed back then
the same shit wouldn't have just happened?
No, hell no.
Hell no, I think so. Fuck no.
Niggas was rapping about crimes that were being done.
That was very, very few people.
I think if social media existed back then, the same thing would have happened.
And I say that because it was crimes that happened.
Look, it was crimes that happened.
I can't hear you, what?
Don't interrupt for you.
I'm going to say it when you finish.
It was crimes that happened that we wasn't there
or that we heard about because niggas ran their mouths.
Same shit is happening, but now niggas got phones
and they runnin' their mouth on the internet.
Now everybody got this, I gotta prove how tough I am.
I gotta prove what I'm, that I'm not getting down like that.
How much money I got?
I just gotta prove shit.
Everybody didn't grow up in the same department.
There you go.
Here's the difference.
No, everybody ain't grow up in the streets. Back in There you go. Here's the difference. No, everybody ain't going to the streets.
Back in the days, a lot of those people
had gangsters actually in their cliques,
which would prevent that.
Let me tell you the difference from back then.
Back then, niggas had real old head niggas
that taught you the rules of the game.
Today, niggas is learning the game
from hip hop and rap songs.
They learn the game on the mall.
Back in the day, you couldn't come outside
and do what the fuck you wanted to do.
Today, niggas could come outside
and do whatever with no recourse.
So back in the day, your old head nigga
would have stepped to you and said,
sit your little dumb ass down
before you get everybody locked up.
That'd be my problem when we get to like
comparing errors and shit.
Pre-NWA, it was like a peace movement.
Yeah, it was.
It was.
Like it was, so again,
everybody don't come from the same hip hop.
So when I say that, we flip say that say what?
Niggas are doing that back in the day. I can't jump in and say
No, they wasn't because I don't know if we told my the same things for me. I was just saying
Fucking ex-clan wasn't doing that public enemy wasn't doing that kumodee wasn't doing it
Karex wasn't doing that but he was in gang every day heavy D wasn't doing that
yeah now he was with a gang but that's the point yeah but that's the point yeah
he was with a preeminent but all of them niggas they didn't get on the record and
start talking about all of the street activities. They did the opposite.
Right.
Just the opposite.
They talked about rapping and fucking bringing the peace.
Yeah.
Because they didn't want the light.
Salt and pepper.
The gangsta niggas.
Even when niggas was beefing.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
The gangsta niggas didn't want that light on them.
Right?
This is my money.
This is my resource.
This is how I get the money.
This is how I can change the street money into clean money.
So we don't want any type of police
or any that type of light on us.
Attention, we don't wanna be in a picture.
We don't wanna be in a newspaper clipping.
When do y'all think that changed?
Joe.
When y'all think that changed?
It goes by person.
If you're asking me.
It didn't change.
It didn't change,
cause some niggas are still outside doing mad,
crooked shit and they don't want no attention brought to them.
Fam, Meach and BMF was brought down
because they put billboards up.
If you're asking me.
It's niggas that's getting money like Meach was getting money,
well, not as many niggas at that level.
But they still don't...
Feet up at the mayor's office on the desk taking a picture.
And guess what happens?
It's niggas that's getting money
and have been getting money for decades
that didn't bring that attention to themselves.
I'm not saying everybody.
I've asked y'all when did it change though?
It was niggas back then. We all seen Frank Lucas movie.
It was Frank Lucas, then it was Nikki Barnes.
It was always that. It was some niggas that wanted attention and some niggas that didn't.
That's since the beginning of time. What I'm saying now is niggas is glorifying some of
this shit. And now little kids that are coming up under them
are looking at them as the poster boy for doing dumb shit.
The niggas that we admired and the niggas that we revered,
yeah, we knew what their reputations was.
Yeah, we knew if you crossed a certain line,
that was your ass.
But they wasn't sitting around saying,
yo, if you do this to me, I'ma kill you.
You just knew you was gonna get killed.
This is common sense.
I used to love her. I think the second or third
verse. Yeah. And I'm with him on some of that. I highlight NWA as changing a lot
of what was going on. Gangsta rap. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah my niggas was conceived to
some of that shit. No they- so when you start talking about the next people in
the 90s I probably can't even name too many other people outside of NWA, but if you start a wave, if you plant a seed and wait for it to grow by 99, 2000,
2001 niggas might be spilling the business.
It was niggas doing it, they made money from it.
It was a lot of gangster rapper niggas, they made money from it and they took that shit
like damn near commercial.
And I ain't gonna lie, again, this is why it's bad to compare errors, right?
But fuck it, we here.
Even if you was doing that in the 90s, it's not the same as you doing it today.
A thousand percent.
A thousand percent.
Oh, for sure.
Like in the 90s, I don't think some of the social judge,
well, now that always existed,
but not the highlight on.
Joe, it wasn't a cell phone that is tracking
your every location, pinging off of a site.
It wasn't traffic lights that got cameras up there.
It wasn't mad shit that is gonna put you right
where you said you was when the nigga got killed.
So technology and the technological advances
were not there when NWA was running around.
Not just that, everybody at NWA wasn't a gangster.
And I feel like back then, you needed your talent
to get a deal, and then if we found out
that you killed some nigga outside of that,
then oh shit, that's crazy.
Today I think it's reversed.
It's reversed.
You know what I was having?
Back then the street nigga was trying to find a rapper to put on.
Yeah.
Now the street nigga's trying to get on.
Is the rapper.
The street nigga wants to be the star himself now.
I saw a clip this morning on the internet where somebody was asking Rallo, yo, what
was your most expensive, what was your biggest loss since becoming a rapper?
And he was like, honestly, becoming a rapper.
Wow.
He said, that's my biggest loss.
Before that, I was a dope boy, I was moving around niggas.
No, I had the hot shit on the block.
I was making X amount of money a month
and I was able to move around accordingly.
Soon as I decided to become a rapper,
now I had cameras on me, kids was asking for autographs,
people was in my face, I couldn't move around no more.
The feds was on me, it was just hot.
And I'm watching that shit and I'm like,
then why the fuck would you become a rapper?
See that wouldn't have got asked in the 90s.
The niggas wouldn't have became a rapper.
That's true.
And Shout N' Rawa.
Yeah, indeed.
So Gangsta Rap, by the way, you know,
Gangsta Rap started in Philly.
I had a quick, who?
Spoonie?
Who, Air Rap?
Spoonie? PSK,wrap? Spoonie?
PSK, man, Schoolie D.
First gangstrap out there.
Schoolie D.
Schoolie D.
And that nigga's literally PSK.
Parkside Killers.
That's when people started naming they gangs,
naming they shit, and that's the decline to me.
Ain't Schoolie D still locked down?
Say what?
Is Schoolie D in jail?
No, you're thinking of Steady B.
Steady B.
Steady B and then Rob the Bank, right?
Steady B and Cool C.
Steady B and Cool C.
B is for life, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I follow one of these Instagram pages recently
that all they do is keep me up with the crime
and what rappers is in jail and for how long
and when they're supposed to be released.
I be watching that shit astonished.
Astonished at what rappers think they could get away with
while actively trying to be a rapper.
Now or back then?
It's current.
Well, they had a steady beat.
But for the most part, it's current.
And that's where me and Ice, that's where I normally disagree with Ice, right?
Because when he get to talk about the rappers that's doing it, those people shouldn't have
rapper first.
Like, they're not rappers.
They just rap.
Yeah.
No, no, I agree with that.
They kill us that rap.
Yeah.
Car thief with bars.
Yeah.
Niggas just trying to transition over to something else.
But you still this?
Fucking car thief with bars is funny.
I was doofy as hell locking my steering wheel up with the club.
You know how stupid I look?
I could never work the club.
The club was a weapon.
It was just a bat that was in there.
That was legal?
That shit was legal in your head?
That was a metal bat.
That was in the backseat, that's it.
All right, so I gotta cue something up.
This one hurts me more than it hurts you.
Oh, shit.
Oh, wow.
Gotta cue it up, man.
I know some of y'all out there sad.
Some of y'all are feeling down.
Yo, for the audience, I won't tell my cast when I'm about to talk about shit.
They have no idea why I'm playing this record right now.
Playing it for the legendary place that we know as Hooters.
Oh yeah.
That's a big deal.
I thought it was going to be Joanne Fabrics.
Who? Joanne Fabrics.
Joanne Fabrics.
Joanne Fabrics. It's like 82 stores went out of business.
It's like Michael's, but old school Michael's.
Rest in peace Joanne Fabrics too.
I'm black.
Word.
And you don't knit. Listen Hooters is out of here. I thought you were playing it for somebody else.
I'm not gonna lie I haven't seen Hooters in 15 years. Hooters been ass in 20. Yeah. Now the one thing that probably led to this unfortunate
unforeseen circumstance for Hooters
is the lack of Hooters.
The lack of tits.
Squeeze.
I've been saying for a long time,
Hooters start hiring them A-cup bitches.
Yeah.
Rebecca.
So when I wanna go get some fucking wings.
Jennifer.
And see titties.
Sarah didn't get it done when she came up get a table tiny be cup not even a double B
You know why why because the girls with the C's and D's was going to the other spot. That's so well perfections
Starless the perfections
Yo Hooters wings was fired and it was they were amazing Hooters wings was fire
So the shirt comes got good wings. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah for sure. I'm gonna say wings
I'm just saying I don't want us to laugh. You can get him to go
I hate did you just say Leave my man alone, he got it. I got out of there. Oh man.
I didn't have no food.
You ain't even get a chance to eat.
I wasn't there to eat.
Go ahead.
Just make a stop.
I don't want to step on the joke.
They rushed me up out of there.
That's fun.
Look at Mark.
He didn't finish the song. Damn. Yeah. That's fun. Look at Mark.
He didn't finish the song.
Damn, damn.
You didn't even get to the bridge.
Oh my God.
Oh shit.
That's hilarious.
All right, page one on the,
you wanna be famous pamphlet, maybe page four,
is don't be stationary.
I don't just walk walking and be stationary nowhere.
You got to move quick.
Thanks.
I'm in and outta here.
And learn how to power walk.
I know it feels uncomfortable as a man.
No, that nigga really does do that though.
I power walk.
No, I don't know.
And I ain't sitting nowhere for no extended period of time.
A nigga walk fast.
Yo, this is before, like this was a long time ago.
Way before Driver, when you used to be in New York clubs,
you had to park blocks.
Man, we had come out of home against,
I was just, nigga be, you know a nigga never be to the side.
That nigga used to be, I'm like, yo, my nigga slow down,
shorty was high right there.
This nigga like. look, distraction.
That's how it happens.
Oh, Shorty Ike, you the one lying.
That's how it's at.
Yo, that nigga used to be, all of that, the food tastes good.
I was outside during Mars 2112,
where I just was standing on the corner,
smoking a cig.
That's when the stick-up kids was walking.
They just kept, hey nigga.
Oh shit.
Look at this nigga puffing away right here.
Hey, get it up nigga.
Is that the Mara 2112?
Did you got robbed at Mara 2112?
No, I didn't get robbed at Mara 2112.
They definitely tried to rob me at Mara 2112.
They ain't see Dill.
I was by myself on the corner, but Dill, we Dill wasn't. Dill fixed that.
They left.
Shout out to anybody who ever kept niggas off me.
Shout out to Ish. You welcome.
Yo Ish didn't do nothing. Ish was afraid. So whatever was coming.
Ish was afraid and didn't want to die that night.
I was with death.
I was all the way with the death.
Him and his knife?
Which knife?
Which knife?
Oh shit. He's cool bro. Go ahead.
You ain't saved nothing.
You ain't saved nobody.
You got it. Look, uh. Uh.
Uh.
Uh.
Uh.
Also, did y'all hear about the trick
that DoorDash was doing?
No, I was here.
All right, pull out my phone.
DoorDash had to pay it up.
DoorDash was not paying tips to the drivers.
Uh-oh.
Oh.
Oh, shit.
The drivers were getting tips. Wow. But DoorDash was not giving it to the drivers. Uh oh. Oh shit. That's fucked up. The drivers were getting tips.
Wow.
But DoorDash was not giving it to them.
That's fucked up.
That's fucked up.
That's some bullshit, my nigga.
OD.
Yeah, that's wrong.
Them feet be hot as hell.
They are.
They're still.
Do you really feel it's wrong, Mr. Tips Tip?
I'm a great tipper.
He's a great tipper.
I am an absolute, I'm one of the,
I'm sitting down, probably one of the best tippers in the restaurant. I told you, Mr. Tips Tip. Yeah, I don't great tipper. He's a great tipper. I am an absolute, I'm one of the, if I'm sitting down, I'm probably one of the best tippers
in the restaurant.
I told you, Mr. Tipster.
Yeah, I don't play like that.
But you do need to give people they tip.
DoorDash slapped with a $16.75 million penalty
for cheating delivery workers out of their tips.
For example, if DoorDash guaranteed a worker $10
and a customer tipped $3, the worker was only paid $10,
with DoorDash using the tip to meet its guaranteed pay.
DoorDash's deceptive model tricked workers
to line their own pockets.
That's fucked up.
Yeah, that's fucked up.
Get them.
That's wack.
And they work for so little.
That's not cool.
In the snow, all types of shit coming out.
Nine dollar charge, dollar charge over there.
Yeah.
Bicycles.
Nah, for real.
Yo, you're an idiot.
Is there a limit?
Oh, good, I'm sorry.
All right, just a quick question.
Mark, for the half of the niggas.
Just playing devil's advocate.
No, I do have a limit on what I'll tip them,
depending on what I'm buying.
I've decided that this year.
Why you looking at me like that, Ish, I'm looking at you speak my brother.
I think you don't know what your face look like.
He don't know a lot about him.
I'm just looking at you.
He likes facial self-awareness.
You'd be like, I'm just looking at.
And the sentence stands, if you just take facial out.
No, I'm just saying like, I give you an example.
Like if I buy sushi, sometimes like if I'm in New York and I buy it from Blue Ribbon, it's very expensive.
Do it there as a sushi.
Look, sometimes I'll be on a set and I just want something healthy, right?
So if the sushi comes to $300, do you, I have to tip the driver $60 to bring me one box
of sushi that's this big?
Yes.
Yeah.
Why?
Tell me why. Because you have a wedding band that match every Rolex? Yes. Yeah. Why? Tell me why.
Because you have a wedding band that match every Rolex.
That's one.
No, I tip 30% in general.
I tip 30%.
God damn.
So tip him 20%.
Yeah, but 20% on three, on three, on, on, on, on.
So your 30% is contingent upon the price.
I think there are exceptions.
There are outliers.
Or like I just bought, I just went to the juice bar, bought a juice and a chili.
Shit came to about $20.
Then I bought two bags of gummies.
So now my bill was $120.
I now have to tip at the takeout right there.
See, now I got tips.
The new takeout tip shit is getting outrageous.
But if somebody drove through New York on a bike
to bring you your fucking blue ribbon sushi.
Or if it's a car. Then you are not getting tipped,
because buy a vehicle and don't bring me my sushi
on a bicycle.
But no, not on a-
What?
No, that's the easiest way.
That's the fastest way to get into it.
Scooter, yeah, I hear you.
Moped.
Don't come to me on a bike.
My rule is if I go on the spot and I don't sit down,
I ain't tipping.
But then there's a difference between $300
and you being served and $300 and it being takeout,
because the service is what you're tipping for.
Service I always tip third.
I tip third.
I tip, I tip.
So if somebody just picked it up and brought it to you,
then the 20% doesn't really kind of factor in.
That's my thing.
If it's a pizza, sure.
If somebody picked it up and brought it to you,
it's a service.
Hell yeah.
It is a service, but it's not the same thing
as waiting on me.
Yeah, it doesn't have to be the same.
You know what I'm saying?
Shit, it's more important. All right, I don't know what you talking about.
Shit, that's more important.
That's more important.
I understand what you're saying.
Then they can come and back, sir, everything okay?
You want another water, you want another juice,
you want another drink, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I'm saying that it's equally as important.
It's more to me.
Or more, but at least equally...
I ain't have to leave my house.
The person that's picking your food up,
not digging in the bag to spit on it or give you
fries, the person that you trust in to give you your food as the restaurant and delivered
it to that person deserves it.
I think that that's...
All of that type of shit.
I just said that you look like I was crazy.
I think that that just puts the bar in hell, because I think that's basic decency to not
spit on my food.
Maybe possibly?
You're throwing some Canada shit right now.
The bar is in hell, number one.
The bar, number one one. The bar number one is inhale and inhale
and two if you black in America they teach you very early that people can
spit in your food. Yes. That's not for us to say the bar is in hell that's just
knowing humans. People do that. Yes they do. Yes if you get to this
drive-thru showing your ass I'm gonna put a nice slab of phlegm on your fucking,
what's that shit you be ordering?
What'd you be ordering?
What'd you say?
I make a special wonton soup for you.
Yeah.
Ramen.
I'm tipping somebody for not putting phlegm in my soup.
They're gonna rag your quarter pounder bun
through the floor all tight, what?
They do bullshit, man.
Some of them do bullshit.
I know that, but a lot of times we're worried about that
when we are in the establishment and not in the takeout because- You. I know that, but a lot of times we're worried about that
when we are in the establishment and not in the takeout because...
You don't pay for your food a lot, huh? You know what? Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, I tip very fucking well because I've been in the service industry. Okay, no all those are lies. They are not lies
They are not fucking lies. Do you pay for your food?
maybe
75 80 you got it
All right, anyway, don't let me believe you that's not the room
No consequence of email. Thank you. I believe 80% 75 80 she said 90. I wouldn't believe it to me. I believe you, Mel. Thank you. I believe Mel for that. 80%? 75, 80.
If she said 90, I wouldn't have believed it.
75, 80, I believe.
Okay.
65, 60.
I believe you too, Mel.
Thank you.
65, 60, I would believe.
Okay.
All right.
I would believe, Mel.
All right, moving right along.
I stand with Mel.
When Mel go outside with people,
she not put, she go to the bathroom,
she not putting her hand in her pocket.
I would agree with that.
She not even going outside without fishing for somebody.
She might not go outside.
I don't think she's fishing, no.
And a lot of the time, I'm picking up the bill.
But at seven.
Really?
Yes.
All right, lie.
Fuck it.
And now I'm about to clunk you.
Especially if I'm writing off the meal
as a business expense.
If I'm out with some of my team members.
Pay them back the cake money then.
No, we not talk about you.
See?
You suck your teeth.
Because he keeps on trying to like, you know.
I don't think she eats out six days a week.
I don't.
That's why I think she pays her own bill.
That's where my makeshift Tupperware comes in.
I don't think Mel pays when she goes out.
But I don't think she goes out.
She doesn't pay when she goes out.
Yeah, but I don't think she goes out even twice a week.
And she get away with it.
Niggas don't even think twice to pay for Mel.
Because she's, while the bill comes, she's talking to you.
Hey, she's distracting you,
so you're putting out your wallet.
Well, I mean, are we just talking about dates?
Are we talking about just regular?
Friendships, not dates, friendships as well?
With friendships, no, I'm pulling out my card.
I'm not gonna make an assumption
that just because you're a man,
you're gonna pay for me if we're just friends.
All right, shake my hand on that.
I'm not doing that.
Now look, on that, yeah, yeah, yeah,
on that little hooters.
I'm not doing that. I'm pulling out my credit card if you take it that's a whole other but just the girls know you pull your card
I sit on the table knowing that he gonna be like no a little lady put your money up
Put your little discovery card
Discovery. Put your little discover card.
It's got that D shit on it.
Discover.
And it goes.
Discover card.
I don't have discovery.
Belle told you she just got a credit card
when she was 46.
42.
Your first?
Yeah.
Okay, technically it wasn't my first.
I was 18 and that whole,
we were talking about how in 18 they really get you
the predatory shit.
So I ran that shit up and then I was like,
fuck credit cards.
Credit one.
I didn't trust myself.
So it was just, cash was,
cash was coming to me for many, many, many years.
You had a credit one card?
Credit one is some bullshit.
I had that bullshit.
They got me.
I paid that off years ago, but they had me for a long time.
No, it was like a Visa and a Victoria's Secret card.
What card you slapped down now on the table?
My mileage plus Visa.
Yeah, I'm trying to get points and shit for travel.
He's so bougie, yo.
This thing got a lot of points.
He's so bougie.
He don't give nobody his points.
I'm trying to increase my credit portfolio.
And she pull out the mileage plus visa.
I too am gonna say, my mama.
That's the great shit.
My mama.
My bank.
Chase.
That's tier one.
Okay.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Okay, man
He is he is shaming me he's credit shaming me right now
Okay, is everybody in this room's credit? I credit score. Yeah now
We didn't
What's good what's good what had a good... My shit is good now nigga. Watch your fucking mouth. We don't think it is. What's good? What's good?
What's a good number?
590.
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
It's like 580 right?
Nah, I'm about a sneeze away from 700.
A sneeze?
Alright.
I'm being honest.
I mean that's respectable.
Decent.
It's decent.
But good is...
Like you could definitely get a rush card.
Mid-sevenths.
Holy shit.
Hey yo listen.
I think this is...
Don't worry. I'mma tell you. You get your cards twice T. I got him. I'm gonna take you some lye. Hey yo Mark, be mindful.
I want you to.
I want a smoke.
Be mindful.
Withdrawing your honor, I want no problem.
Yes, I can, yes.
But I can get a lot of cards, man.
Yeah, I know you can.
Plus you get money so you don't need the cards in the same way.
So I'm playing a lot of things with cash.
Actually, you just did get a card so your credit might be good, but now if you run it
today, they're gonna see a little.
You got a 4X.
You got a 4X.
You got a 4X.
You got a 4X. You got a 4X. So I'm playing a lot of things with your cash. Actually, you just did get a car, so your credit might be good,
but now if you run it today,
they're gonna see a little.
You got a 480, they can get you a car.
You're coming off that lot with a car.
Oh yeah, nigga.
What I've been saying,
27% right? You got a real nice crib.
You got a real nice car.
What I've been saying lately,
they're gonna find a new car.
You get a real nice crib now?
I'm saying I believe him because
I see how he's moving out of here.
I think if they try to run it again.
I don't got a CPN.
I'm about to get one.
If they try to run it like now, then it's going to be a little stretchy.
I don't say that's what he's saying.
I don't agree with that.
They're going to look and be like, eh.
Where your shit at, nigga?
Is it close to an eight?
Oh, I don't know.
All right.
So before you talk to anybody else, check yours and then come and credit shame us.
And be like, yo, you got anybody else you can sign with this?
You got a lot of buildings and shit. Where your shit at nigga?
This shit is stellar, I guarantee you. I will put my money in Ish.
This shit is not, let me see.
One of the highest credit scores.
He about to pull it off for me.
I don't believe him. I think it could have been, but he procrastinated.
Let's go Ish.
Nah, nah.
You gonna pull up your credit score?
Hurry up nigga.
Wait, where you going?
Experience?
Transition?
Okay.
Who what?
640.
I'll tell you.
650 tops.
Keep going.
That's what I got for you.
Nah, Ish bought an 8.
Yeah, I was gonna say.
I feel like he might have 7-8.
You think Ish is an 8?
I think it's about 7-8.
I got him at 750.
Ish ain't moving nobody IUD around.
Mom, will you hit shit there?
Yo!
You got an 8-something credit score, mom?
Ish never did that. Look at that. You ever move somebody IUD around? Shit's hurt. So you did it before? Ma, where your shit at? Yo! You got an H up to critical, Ma?
This never did that.
Look at that.
You ever move somebody's IUD around?
Shit's hurt.
So you did it before?
You did.
Hey, you know what I can do?
I can show you how to put the IUD in.
Hold on.
This is how you do it.
You freak ass boy.
I do have a music question for y'all.
Rihanna recently was talking about that she's working on her album
and she's been working on her album
for the last half of the years.
And Anti is the only album that she can listen to
of hers straight through without skips.
With no shame.
Yeah, with no shame.
So I wanted to ask y'all, if Rihanna drops tomorrow,
what do y'all think the first week looks like?
Insane.
Insane.
Oh.
Eight.
Yeah.
Damn.
Single, big single? Let's give her a single. She gotta have a single, yeah. Oh, she's, single big single
Let's give us things you have a single. Yeah. Oh, she's up. Wait. Wait. What single like is it a
Half a pop. It's a Rihanna single
Rihanna Rihanna might do it. Yeah, yeah. I'm like I think read with a blind drop get you seven
With no I get you views numbers.
I don't remember what views numbers.
One, one point two.
Views did one point something week one.
And I came in and shitted on it.
Let me double check, I don't wanna misspeak.
Yeah, you know what I'm like,
just before Rihanna did it.
No, it did a million, I was like, somewhere.
So you have Rihanna doing eight, you said six-ish.
Maybe more.
Six-seven. Views did one million forty thousand. God damn. First week.
Hotline Blung and Control Light and Work. One Dance. Yeah.
That Cheesecake line bothered me. That's the line that bothered me. I like your style.
The Cheesecake line. Because Drake was not at Cheesecake Factory or Arbyshell.
But he loved to go there though, bitch.
He loved to go there.
That's just like on the new album.
What are you talking about?
He had to make the girl, the girl had to move out of mom's crib.
His credit, his credit is cool, it's cool.
He talked it? He talked it? This nigga nosy. Ish credit is cool, it's cool. It's not, it's you.
Yeah.
He talked it?
Yeah.
He talked it?
This nigga's an idiot.
It was supposed to be what Mark said.
Ish credit is cool.
What Mark said?
750.
Yeah.
That's great.
How much you're high?
Little higher.
That's awesome.
That's awesome credit score.
I know, but you can do anything with that.
But it's just, it's not for Ish though.
You can go to eight.
Why are you looking so stupid in the face?
Cause you got a 750.
I don't have a 750.
You got seven.
Sorry.
It's all right.
Yo, this thing is flip.
You can't pull your phone out of our face.
This thing is a monster.
Can you three participate in my Rihanna question?
I said, I said.
Oh yeah.
I'm with Parks like around 800.
She might hit a mill.
She would be close.
A mill is tough.
If that single goes, she would be close.
I agree.
You come to Mermaid with me.
I agree.
We can knock that together.
They ain't gonna knock me out.
You agree?
No.
I think Rihanna would hit closer to what views it hit.
If the first single really go, I think her fans have just been starving
so long for new music that they just.
Without a single, I gotta add 500.
I don't put it as high, Joe.
More.
I just think people are starving to hear.
That's no doubt.
That's not to doubt her ability.
I guess I'm just putting a cap on music fans.
So you think that Kendrick could do, for G and X, they what?
319.
And that's a surprise drop, no single no nothing.
Not just that, Kendrick don't transcend all audiences
like Rihanna does.
And I think Rihanna is more widely spread
amongst age demographics as well.
So not just social, you know what I'm saying,
but age as well.
I think she definitely can double what he did.
I'm not mad at five to six.
I'm not ready to jump and say seven, eight.
That first single is up.
That first single matters.
That first single is up.
That's why Ashley got that first single is up.
She also said that she was like,
do not expect this to be a commercial record.
This is not going to be traditional.
But I think everybody say that to get expectations over here.
But even-
I also don't expect Rihanna to put music out.
I don't give a fuck what she's saying.
Yeah, I don't think there's no music coming out.
There ain't no music coming out.
Like Rihanna's so diverse and what she can do musically, bro.
It don't even gotta be a commercial shit.
But I am at a B.
She's at a B, yeah.
She's a B.
Fuck, what B?
Billion, a couple of them.
Two billion, oh, she's partin'.
Pardon, pardon, sir.
She's two Bs.
Fuck, music.
I had another question I wanted to ask y'all.
Who B she worried about is babies.
Facts. Just in me attempting to ask y'all. Oh, he thinks he worried about his babies. Facts.
Just in me attempting to profile y'all.
In your miniseries or movie that you're watching,
would you prefer to see the villain
and see him operate as a villain
or have to guess who the villain is?
Guess.
I love a good coup d'un.
I love to guess.
I like to watch.
And I want to be right. I want to be right Guess. I love a good, who done is? I love to guess. I like to watch.
And I want to be right.
I want to be right.
Because I like to guess, but what's the shit that we liked with the nigga in Europe popping
niggas?
Ashley in the, oh.
The dude in Europe that was popping.
Jackal?
Jackal.
Yeah.
I liked that we knew it was, I was, we was rooting for that nigga.
Most villains don't pull it off in that manner that make you kind of empathize with them a little bit. Where they're likable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if they could do it and pull it off like that, you was ruined for that nigga. Most villains don't pull it off in that manner that make you kinda empathize with them a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So if they could do it and pull it off like that,
you're root for the villain.
I like a likable villain.
I like Penguin.
Me too, I like to watch how they mind work.
Yeah, I like to watch.
You put me on to that shit.
Penguin, I like Penguin.
Penguin had us rooting for him a little bit.
But most times I like the suspense or the not knowing,
I think makes a good series where it's not predictable.
You give me a good finale where, oh shit.
I never would have guessed it was this motherfucker right here.
Because somebody said, and this is not even a spoiler alert
because it's somebody's opinion,
they said that they think the son killed the father.
I could see that.
That's where they're leading us to think.
They said they think the son killed the father.
Y'all ain't watched the last episode.
Oh, you need to. And we are not about to spoil it.
I'm not saying nothing about it.
We paradise out.
The fans are revolting against us.
They said not one more word of fucking paradise.
So cool.
I don't think they like it as much as we do, though.
That show's fire.
Because every other series we've talked about,
they've been cool with it.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
But this one...
Nah, they get mad about spoilers, always.
Not the spoilers, the show itself.
We talk too much about a show
for the audience to be so large,
everybody didn't see the show.
Like some of the shows are still niche,
and us up here, some of us are TV people,
so we catching it early.
Some, some.
3AM.
One, two, three, four.
Y'all are different, bro.
No, they more different than I am.
Don't put me with that.
No, you with them.
You and Parks are with them.
As a TV person.
When y'all went through that shit the other day,
this one I knew I was a mutt,
y'all went through that shit the other day,
HBO versus Apple.
Ice was like, oh yeah, that's fire.
Oh yeah, that's fire too.
Oh yeah, I'm like, I never heard of that shit.
Ice and Parks over here, that's one, that's a banger. I was like, yo.
I was five, four, five years old.
So you didn't know you was a mutt
when your girl told you you can't watch that
on the living room TV because she was watching something?
No, that wasn't really inkling that I was a mutt.
That was sweet, that was cute.
Aw.
Blow it away, it's good.
Blow away, it was an eyelash.
Oh, OK.
It's three million people wanting it.
No, I didn't know I was a mutt.
What's wrong with you?
I just want y'all to always be aware of how many people are listening. But my man has someone on his didn't know I was in the line. What's wrong with you?
I just want y'all to always be aware of how many people are listening.
But my man has some on his face, so I was doing him a service.
I love that you did that. The five minute bit to carry afterwards.
Niggas watching.
We back now.
Look nasty like a dick. Take it out.
Nah, that's all right.
Look Jack Lee or something.
That's why they rooting for me to go to Mermaid.
They rooting for me.
I wanted to ask y'all something else.
Well, do you have anything y'all wanna ask me?
What's your answer?
On what?
The villain.
The villain versus?
Yeah.
As much as I love to guess,
I don't think anything beats a charming villain.
Do you have a favorite villain? Like in recent history? No, I love TV. I love TV too much. I don't have a favorite a charming villain. Do you have a favorite villain?
Like in recent history?
No, I love TV.
I love TV too much.
I don't have a favorite.
Me and my girl fought recently
cause she said night agent
wasn't night agent-y enough for her.
And I was like, well, what do you mean?
Season two?
Yeah. I was like, well, what do you mean?
And she said, when he, I can hear y'all,
when, just three million people.
She said when he went up on the trolley in the air
with Homeboy, the villain dude,
and the villain dude got him to be down with the plan,
she said that he should've tossed some shit up.
I said, well, the villain dude put him up in the air
on the trolley to where you can't do nothing.
And she said, all right, what about when it got down?
I said, this niggas down there with hammers,
this whole place surrounded there on a dock.
I thought that was a smart villain move.
Do y'all remember seeing him talking about?
I didn't.
I saw it in my season two.
It's fine, it's not even that important.
Fucking, I just finished watching Zero Day.
Okay.
Zero Day.
I heard it's somebody amazing.
It's on Netflix, it's a quick six episodes.
I'm starting it today.
Robert De Niro and Angela Bassett.
Angela Bassett.
It's amazing.
I'm in.
I ain't seen it.
I didn't see it.
I didn't even heard about it.
It is good.
It won a lot of promo on it.
It's a good show.
I won't spoil it because it's new.
Go ahead and watch it.
Don't worry.
You got to watch The Baldwins.
I don't know what that is.
It's a reality series.
The series goes.
It gives us unfiltered access into the highs and lows of one of the world's
most famous and infamous families.
Is that Alec Baldwin?
Yeah, Alec Baldwin and his wife and his kids.
And his wife Hilaria.
They try to do some little PR shit.
They got a whole series.
I'm not watching the ball.
What you were saying about Zero Day?
It's just good. How do you rank it in comparison to Paradise?
Because I heard they similar in plot a little bit.
I don't think they're similar at all.
Like outside of there being a president.
Okay.
Zero Day is about,
Zero Day is about domestic terrorism and a cyber hack.
MCI is my kind of shit. I heard this though.
Got me.
And how you deal with that type of cyber attack.
Gotcha.
I don't get that from Paradise.
It's a little different, but there is a president involved.
What else, what else, what else, what else
did I have for y'all?
Do y'all see the people in mad at Lizzo about losing weight?
Yes. I don't understand that one.
I get it. I get it completely.
I understand it too.
Because the whole thing was body positivity and body image and all of this that you flaunted in our face for years.
Now you go and lose the weight.
She went to go get healthy. What the fuck is the problem?
I was about to say that.
So she went to get healthy, so we found it on somebody.
She might have did that based on health reasons.
I'm just saying, I understand the people
being upset with that.
I don't.
I get it.
My unpopular opinion is this is the problem.
I support body positivity.
I don't think we should body shame people.
However, I think we enter the moment
where we just pretend being really, really overweight
is healthy.
And part of why people are mad at Lizzo to me
is because Lizzo's part of the people saying,
not just that you should be positive with this,
but this is okay.
There's nothing wrong with being an extra 100 pounds.
This is healthy, healthy, healthy.
And then when you lose 100 pounds and you like,
oh, it's because I'm trying to live better and be healthy.
It's like, what the fuck?
That's what they was telling you.
Right, right.
I just don't like that.
And again, I get it.
I respect people's bodies.
People should show up in the bodies they want.
But I hate when people pretend that it's not okay.
Man, they told us we was wrong
when she showed up at that Laker game
and people had something to say about it.
We was wrong about that.
Oh, what she was wearing?
Yeah, when everybody said, we don't want to see that.
Like you shouldn't be dressed like that, Lizzo.
But I don't want to see it, not because she's fat.
I don't want to see a skinny person do that.
Oh, I do.
Well then that's, that I can see as a problem.
You can't say, you can't say like the bigger you are,
like you got a dress code at the game.
Do you?
You shouldn't say that.
Yo, you good boy.
I'm being honest.
Whether I find it attractive or not ain't the point. I'm not telling somebody you can wear that. You can wear that. Yo, you good, boy. Ain't he? I'm being honest. Whether I find it attractive or not ain't the point.
I'm not telling somebody, you can wear that.
You can wear that.
No, no, chill.
Wear them sweats.
I'm just saying, I don't want to see it.
Yeah, but they shouldn't be shaming her for that.
She does look good.
She looks really nice.
She looks really nice.
Yeah, she looks really nice.
Shalda Lizzo, congratulations.
Hopefully you continue on your journey.
That's fine.
I thought body sh shame was fun.
They put a halt to it for a little while there.
Listen, if the world wants one less
accountability system, then fine.
Yo, what do you think?
Yo, you a monster.
I mean, it was an accountability system.
That's true, yeah.
Go to school, put your body in it,
it'll take away, go ahead.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I like seeing you like this.
Like what?
Oh shit.
In your Sit the Fuck Down outfit.
Say more words.
How is this a Sit the Fuck Down?
Last, I'm not gonna objectify you.
Last few paws you showed up here,
looking like a little hot tamale.
Then you took a little trip for the movie promo stuff
that you was doing.
And now you back, a little lazy.
Let me see your shirt, I like your shirt.
What did your shirt say, man?
I love it.
You got the fresh back from a flight mustache.
Leave alone, I am not responsible for what my face.
You can tell when somebody just was doing too much.
Like when you've been in the game for a long time,
you can look at somebody and tell,
all right, they had an active week,
and now they're sitting the fuck down.
So those are my more words.
Okay. There you go.
All right. Am I off?
Am I there?
Yeah, wildly.
Wildly off. Wildly off.
So you're not sitting down.
We lit still.
This outfit's a little comfy.
I did land very, very late last night.
So yes, I was not coming in fishnets in a dress.
Absolutely not. However, we did have celebrations.
All right. I'm not objectifying.
This morning, I was almost late to work because Trippie Fontaine decided to get on YouTube and tell his side of the story.
Don't call him Trippie, please.
What's his name? Unless you know him personally to call him Trippie. Oh shit. That's your nickname?
Tripp.
Tripp.
That's crazy. That was wild.
She talk about me in the groups?
You try to be down with that nigga?
Do you know him?
Yes, she does.
You know Tripp, Q-Tip.
Leonardo DiCaprio.
Snoop.
You will not sit the fuck.
Just sit down.
I mean, you know.
She no seal.
I haven't seen it in 25 years in the business.
She no seal too.
La da da, la da da.
Oh, if I really felt like coming up off the stories
that I have.
Okay, anyways, so Tripp Fontaine.
Trippy Fontaine.
You know what I'm saying? Now I'm gonna do it more, because Tripp Fontaine. Trippie Fontaine. You know what I'm saying?
Now I'm gonna do it more, cuz I know you're mad.
Tripp Fontaine got on YouTube and decided to tell his side of the story.
Tripp Fontaine is a podcaster and he was on Tonight's Conversation.
Y'all know we've been trying to follow why Tonight's Conversation broke up.
He's been silent, he's one of the stars, so I did wanna hear from him.
And I'll play it.
One of my lives, man.
And my fault for giving you something that somebody else leaked
because niggas were screaming.
Now, this is like a 25-minute piece.
I'm just trying to play a little bit.
So you get it.
We got three superstars on the team.
That's Keita, Randy. And I'll say by the time we hit the road, by the time I even really
got there, it was probably like Keita, Randy, and probably Ace for real.
Probably Keita, Randy, Ace.
It was probably the ones that everybody, and Richie, everybody came to see.
So you got like your big three, kind of like your four, this your cap, it's your salary cap.
There's no big company in Milwaukee to sponsor the team,
like you kind of reaching to get the sponsors and shit,
like this your salary cap.
Then you got me who come out of nowhere,
who was really brought in to be the sixth man.
Cause I started out on this, this like lower tier podcast.
With a relationship with a girl.
No Joe Biden.
With a relationship with a girl.
Got you.
With a relationship with a one.
It was uncut.
That's why I gotta give a big up to Rico and all of them.
Cause they, they made the platform what it was.
That shit was built on like key to shoulders, literally.
Got you.
So, so I, I ended up getting brought up into the,
into the mix just cause like I had been a live performer.
I've been a trained speaker, I had been a trained
speaker, I had done TEDx already.
So me on stage, improvisation, this was my bag, regardless of what we talking about.
Then I blow up on a Ricky contract, which ain't no problem while I'm on that Ricky contract.
My 30 points a game, the greatest shit that ever happened to the team while I'm on my
Ricky Contra.
You had like a Jeremy Lin.
Remember when Jeremy Lin was super hot?
Except this wasn't no fluke.
So when it come down to rotation, the more minutes you give me, the higher my averages
become.
Granted, I'm sharing the rock.
This means certain people got to fall out the rotation. This means that certain people not getting touches the way that
they used to. This means that certain people not getting plays designed for
them the way that they used to. And it also means that the money won't get
tighter when these renegotiations come around. Now if my 30 points a game proves
to be efficient and you only got to give me 25 minutes to get there I don't know if
you're gonna get them minutes back mm-hmm and I don't know if you're gonna
get the money you asking for either he might prove to be a little bit more
valuable in the next few seasons much more youthful mm-hmm people don't know
who he is yet much more marketable. People don't know who he is yet. Much more marketable because people don't know who he is yet.
We can mold him to our program.
So there was an opportunity in your mind,
if you were approached with, like,
hey, we gonna make you the franchise player.
They didn't plan on me being a franchise player.
But if they would have came to you, said...
Then yeah, probably wouldn't have been. And, hey,. But if they would have came to you, said, then yeah, probably.
Hey, we're going to maybe put this person on the bench,
restructure this, and lean into what we see as the day
the shows.
Yeah, it might have worked out.
But they were trying to not.
Maybe.
But I do think things happen as they're supposed to.
I'll give you the Cliff Notes. they supposed to I get a clip notes
He went on to say in the same very same interview that they went on a historic run
They went on a three-year run of touring selling out venues of 4,000 seats Wow killed it. They did
Yeah, 4,000 seats
He said there were other stars of the show, but he came, he put on, he was happy with
his contract.
At the end of the contract, he asked for more.
They didn't give it to him.
They wouldn't budge.
Wow.
That's the long and short of it.
He said any other problems that he might have had on the show, he dealt with in person.
But him, he said the only problem, the only problem with him,
the only time he was vocal about a problem
that he didn't handle in person with somebody
was him and other cast members coming together
feeling like, okay, if we come together,
maybe we can all get paid.
And he said that didn't happen.
What is everyone's take on that here?
Ali Duff, I don't really have a take about it because he left.
Yeah, you know my take.
He left.
So if you ask for something and if you ask for what you want and you don't get it and
you feel like you can go out in the field and get it, then by all means, chuck the deuces
and go handle your hand.
And I think that could be done amicably amongst adults. Like I think if we don't agree,
especially if the agreement is only based on money.
Like if it's only based on money, right?
And-
I know you're just saying only, but I get it.
No, like if we just can't-
Money's a lot, that's a big one.
No, but I'm saying if we don't have any other issues,
you get what I'm saying?
The only issue is we can't agree on the compensation piece,
then I think that could be done amicably
and it's no harm, no foul.
You see what I'm saying?
I could see you in the street,
what up my nigga, da da da da da,
how you think moving?
Da da da, without.
He didn't come off as salty or upset or any of that.
He the one that didn't really.
Oh, you know him too?
He ain't come out for a while and say nothing.
This has been going on for months and months and months.
You know him, right?
Nah, I mean, he cool with me, but we ain't people's.
You know what I'm saying?
But he handled it like.
Yeah, you're a liar.
So you second run up, nigga.
Everybody go to itch.
To have that ability has to feel good.
I know you don't want to play modest,
but the ability to just attract others,
the ability, not attract, like,
just to make people come into, you know,
want to come into your environment or your orbit.
I think the kids call that Riz.
Yeah, ooh, oh, oh, oh, oh, shit.
You around some young nigga?
Yeah, she went to Atlanta, learned the word.
You got the Riz.
People fuck with you.
I know, I'm a fan.
I'm a fan.
But I think that's your game.
I'm a fan. I'm a fan of yours I think that's your game. I'm a fan.
I'm a fan of yours and they really a fan of yours.
I'm not a fan of everybody.
So I think that.
Not a fan of mine.
I saw, I'm a fan of yours.
I went to tonight's conversations.
I think, like he's saying, the numbers spoke for themselves
with regards to his value to the show.
So if they couldn't agree on the numbers,
they couldn't agree on the numbers.
Cause a lot of times, even let's take us.
I don't know what the show generates.
And I think a lot of times people are.
Yeah, of course, of course.
That makes sense.
As it should.
I think that a lot of times people overestimate
what a show might be generating.
And they, you know what I'm saying?
So you come to a thing, like if I came in here and said,
yo, I want 200 grand a month,
and the show only generates 250 a month,
it's like issue out your mind,
it's something that's impossible to do.
Because I may not know what the show generates,
and I might be over-inflating it.
You get what I'm saying?
Do you agree with the part that,
because we had a conversation like that, you and I,
as far as like it has to be a collective
in order to get what we want.
Do you agree with him when he stated
that him and the cast members should work in unison
in order to-
I don't think, what do they call it?
In a coup?
A coup.
A coup, I just haven't seen that work.
Well, that's not really a coup.
That's asking for like favorite nations.
In this clip, in the-
It's a semi-coup.
It's a semi-coup.
I didn't play the rest, but he said me and the other cast members got together
and felt that that might be the best way
for all of us to get paid.
That's in a coup.
Oh, not that.
But that arrangement within like a business situation
would be called asking for favored nations.
See, what happens is even in that situation
or in those circumstances.
I mean, like it's realistically, it alleviates a lot of problems. What alleviates? I disagree.
Favorite Nations. I don't even understand what that means. Favorite Nations basically means we all get paid the same
amount. We agree that this is our cap, this is what we're all gonna get so
that nobody's backbiting and fighting over who gets more. That's not what they did.
No I know that's what I'm saying Favorite Nations is and that's what he's saying. He's just like I was trying to get the cast together. That's not what they did. No, I know, that's what I'm saying Favorite Nations is.
And that's what he's saying.
He's just like, I was trying to get the cast together.
Like, friend, the cast is friend.
That's not what he's saying.
That's not what he's saying.
He's not saying anything about Favorite Nations.
He's saying, so let's just say, me, you and Flip,
we want to come to Joe and say, yo, we want more bread.
Yes.
You make 2,000, Flip makes 2,000, I make 2,000.
I might think I'm valued at 10.
You might think you valued at five. You might think you value that five.
Flip might think he valued that seven.
Nah, 15.
Okay.
We all not coming together to ask for 10, 10, 10.
We just are asking for a raise collectively because we are the three cogs on the show
that make the show go forward.
So we come and band together to say, yo, you can't lose all three of us.
Now we kind of putting the pressure on him like we got the leverage.
Is that considered a coup?
Semi, semi.
Question for you, how successful do you think
that tonight's conversation is gonna be without Tripp?
I think what happened, I think this is what I think they did.
I think that.
Cause from what I understand, it was solely just money.
If he asked for a price, and that's it.
It didn't get reached. So I asked for a price, and that's it. It didn't get reached.
So, I feel like a bitch ass nigga
talking about these niggas' businesses,
but what I think is, I think they'll still persevere.
I think that what they did was highlighted Tripp so much
that he almost became the face of the show.
You know what I'm saying?
For good reason, because he was killing shit.
I think so, I think they gave him the leverage. He was killing shit on the killing shit. I think so. I think they gave him the leverage.
He was killing shit on the show.
Killing shit.
So I think they gave him the leverage,
and I think he used the leverage to negotiate with.
And I think they might have did it mistakenly
from a business perspective.
It's like if every clip up here highlights Ice.
Every single clip is highlighting Ice, or 80%
of the clips is highlighting Ice.
Now Ice has leverage.
And I think from a business perspective,
you don't never wanna give somebody that much leverage
because it leaves you vulnerable.
I don't look at it like that,
but I understand what you're saying.
It does, it leaves you vulnerable.
I ain't comment,
I'm not gonna comment too much on them
because from to my understanding,
they were a touring outfit.
And they was killing shit.
So if you're a touring outfit, okay,
so now I have to account for, if our business is the road,
then I have to account for being on the road.
Yeah.
But they also have a podcast.
So when I went to see them, I saw them at the Javits.
They packed that shit, back-to-back events.
They packed that shit, like it was packed.
You know what I'm saying?
And then they did the Javits three days in a row.
I don't know if I could pay one person,
especially the one person, if it's an ensemble cast.
And like you just said, I was on a rookie contract.
Stay here, and even if you could pay the one person,
now y'all try to get-
Is that a bad precedent?
No, it don't.
Y'all try to get together as a collective
to press me for money.
So now I can make me afford to pay him,
but now I can't pay the other two or three motherfuckers
that all want substantial increases in salary.
I can't do that.
So had y'all not got together
and tried to press me like this,
I could have paid you in confidence or in secret.
Now I can't pay the other two or three.
That's part of my problem with the cool shit.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I said it was a semi, because they wasn't necessarily
trying to overthrow, dude, they were just trying
to come up and use their collective leverage
to say, yo, you can't lose all three of us.
You can't afford to lose all three of us at the same time.
And in this outfit, in a touring outfit,
maybe you can, right?
Like, I don't know that they're touring anymore. Also, also I put a lot of stock
in the eye that recognized Tripp Fontaine was a star. I don't know if that person
has that eye. I don't know if they knew that. I'm gonna assume they did. I think
they might have picked, I can't say yes. He says he came in as six man, so I don't think that
they really had the understanding
that he was going to blow up the way that he did.
He just talked to Sean maybe.
Yeah, yeah.
I think his perspective is so unique.
I think his perspective was unique enough
to where the shit he started saying
just started resonating with the people.
And it resonated with both men and women.
Yeah, mm-hmm.
Oh, that's...
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, and I have you on the contract
and you killing shit off the bench,
so it makes sense for me to highlight you.
Of course.
Yeah.
I, no, who said, that's not what you said.
But then it will also make sense for them to...
That's not nothing what you said.
You said that the person had an eye that he was a star.
You might not have thought he was a star.
You might have thought, I'ma pick him up
as a serviceable player that could play
three or four different positions and now when
that nigga getting in he getting buckets you didn't know that this Jordan pools
in the G League I still think there's something to be said for identifying
star talent in real time I'm not just okay but I'm saying maybe I maybe the
person didn't know when he first got there once he start cooking it's still
a talent to say hey right give him the the ball, feed him, feed that person.
So I put stock in that person.
If it's your job to put a show together,
it's your job to put a show together.
And that's what you just said too.
He attested to that in the clip that you just played.
But if what I'm hearing about what he might have wanted
as one person.
It was a lot.
And then you gotta assume this person is talking to the rest as one person. It was a lot. And then you got to assume this person is talking
to the rest of the people.
That's a lot of money.
No, it is.
And again, now somebody has to take a shot.
Now my whole tour outfit is asking for just out of world
numbers, and you can't maintain a show like that.
I can't run a business that way.
You can't.
You can't run a business that way. You can't. You can't run a business that way. Because now, Imani got a double his salary.
Now Mel want more money.
She might not want double, but she want more money.
And a billboard.
Fast ass.
Now Flip want more money.
Now I want more money.
Now Ice want more money.
Now everybody want more money.
What you just did to the bottom line
of that particular company is made us be in a negative
if I grant everybody's wishes.
We are no longer profitable.
And now me as the owner of this said company,
my nigga, I'm the one taking the risk up here.
So I should get some money, especially a lion's share
of the money because I'm the one up here taking the risk
and footing the bill for everything.
That's a fact.
You can't do that.
We'll be able to down move.
I'm not mad.
He left when his stock was high.
And it was.
So now I would like to see him perform
outside of that construct.
Because that's where you showed us.
That's it.
That's it, you're real funny.
Again, if any of y'all tonight's conversation people
want to come up here and spill tea,
they do.
Tripp is a little too mature,
but the floor is yours. Please, by all means, come up here and spill tea. They do. Trip is a little too mature. But they wanna come up here. The floor is yours.
Please, by all means, come up here.
I'mma ford you.
But don't come up here talking to my coals.
Don't come up here talking to nobody,
gayfully employed by,
y'all mean, come up here, tell you a little story and go.
Don't try to go start today's conversation
with my niggas, nope.
How long you known this guy?
Because he just got kind of popping, right?
How long you known him?
Doesn't matter.
Just like really simple questions up here, good stuff.
I don't really know.
It's just you meet in passing kind of thing,
you talk a lot and just.
Do you consider him like a friend?
Or is it like a casual?
Yeah, Mark, thank you.
It's casual.
Just gotta ask the right questions, man.
I'm not doing this with Mel.
ISO on Mark for Joy Reid, give it to me.
Man, I am outraged, I'm frustrated, I'm angry.
Joy and Reid, the host of The Readout at 7 p.m. at MSNBC
was let go, they announced it this Sunday
in the New York Times.
From what I understand, talking to her team,
they found out in the New York Times,
they didn't find out from the network, they found this out.
This is all part of a process.
Maybe two, three weeks ago, Rashida Jones
stepped down as president of MSNBC,
the other Rashida Jones, and not
Quincy Jones' daughter, and she, when she stepped down she was replaced by somebody
who just overhauled the whole network. They said it was because of ratings that Joy Reid
was let go. I don't buy that fully, because nobody watches these cable news networks anyway.
They all got shitty ratings. But everybody with shitty ratings wasn't cut. And the people
with the shittiest ratings weren't the ones at the front of the line getting cut. When you look at the image on Sunday,
it's Joy and Reed. When you look on Monday, it's Joy and Reed. It's Jonathan Capehart, a brother who
had a Sunday show. It's Ayman Mohaldeen, the Egyptian guide. Katie Fang. Katie Fang. I mean,
it looked like the Rainbow Coalition of people getting fired from MSNBC. And Lester Holtz is
stepping down from NBC.
So it's just a lot of brown people, a lot of black people.
And from what I can see,
it's people who didn't kiss the ring.
Since Big T, as y'all say, came into office,
he's been running up in these corporations
and these media outlets telling people,
if y'all wanna play ball with us,
you're gonna do what I say.
It's not like eight years.
Or else. Or else.
Or else. It ain't like before when all networks were like, we're gonna be the loyal opposition, we're gonna with us, you're going to do what I say. It's not like eight years ago. Or else. Or else.
It ain't like before, when all the networks were like, we're going to be the loyal opposition,
we're going to challenge Trump, we're going to beat Trump.
Now they want to be in bed with Trump.
And Trump is like, I don't like Joanne Reid.
He's been very explicit.
I don't like her.
And he's pointing at certain people.
There's also people who've been critical of certain things.
Those are also the people who are getting laid off and fired and let go.
And the new president of MSNBC.
Rebecca something.
Cutler.
I remember her name because she's the person
who fired me from CNN.
Oh, fuck that bitch.
She gave me the call.
I'm not blaming her.
I won't say she fired me.
She was the one who gave me the call.
Got it.
I actually think it was above her,
so I don't blame her for that.
But what I am saying is that the business is the business
is the business and it seems to me that MSNBC
is in a new zone, all cable TV is in a new zone,
which is we're not in a diversity game anymore.
We're not in the both sides game anymore.
It's getting more and more right wing.
And I think it's a message for all those black people
out there protesting, please stop protesting
to get people their jobs back.
One, it doesn't work.
Ain't nobody ever got their job back from people protesting.
Two, create your own shit. It's time for us to have our own media outlets so that we don't always
have to come hat in hand begging people for jobs and not being able to take the positions we want
to take. Joy was courageous. Joy took some positions. I don't always agree with her,
but she always took principled positions and she's not there. And she wasn't always, she was very
critical of Trump, but she was also very critical of the Biden administration.
Because she was very vocal about her opposition to the war in Gaza.
Exactly. That's what I'm saying. And so was Ayman Mohaldeen.
And so was Mehdi Hassan who got fired a year ago. You know,
there's a pattern here. You know,
if you go against the establishment on two or three major issues,
you're not in here anymore and that's a problem.
Let's get our own shit.
Those are not always looking TV is dead anyway.
Let's move away from it.
They run that shit like Defro.
They run the country like Defro.
My nigga like they have put pressure on all of the tech niggas.
All these niggas that we got them zillions of dollars.
They made them niggas kiss the rain.
They run in this shit like a different,
like this shit is crazy.
You know how in other countries you can't say,
yo, fuck the president?
They down there gonna be like, you said what?
Yo, he's fired.
That's what it's starting to feel like.
And that's what America is.
America is we can say certain things.
Like other countries, you can't say,
they said North Korea dog, if your house catch on fire,
you better run out the house with the picture of the president. they said North Korea dog, if your house catch on fire, you better run out the house
with the picture of the president.
Before you save your dog,
you have to come out the house
with that picture of the president,
or you can go to jail for that.
We not there, of course that's an extreme,
but we going down the road of-
Autocracy.
It's yeah, it's just different bro.
This shit is something we never seen in two months.
Only been two month, month and a half.
So anybody on TV that's going to speak out against anything MAGA,
y'all days might be numbered. Your days is numbered. Unless you kiss in the ring.
Because there will be certain people who will be allowed to be critical
because behind the scenes they're doing certain things. So there's always a secret arrangement
when it comes to cable news.
What do you think about Rachel Maddow?
And the model of the show.
Shout it out to her.
I love Rachel Maddow.
That's how you show up and that is how you're an ally
and that's how you use your white privilege the right way.
But it gave me chills.
White people, if you're trying to figure out
how to show up, watch that video.
That's how you do it.
That's how you show up.
What she say?
I got you.
Oh.
Look at you boy, producing the show, huh?
Let me see, hold up.
Stupid ass thumbs, my thumbs is big as hell.
Our great colleagues and great at what they do.
No, no, no, hold up.
I have learned so much from her.
I have so much more to learn from her.
I do not want to lose her as a colleague.
I know she's smaller than number one,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
All right.
Even bigger program change is at 7 PM,
7 PM Eastern, where Joy Reid's show,
The Readout, ended tonight.
And Joy is not taking a different job in the network.
She is leaving the network altogether.
And that is very, very, very hard to take.
I am 51 years old.
I have been gainfully employed since I was 12 and
I have had so many different kinds of jobs. You wouldn't believe me if I told you
But in all of the jobs I have had in all the years I have been alive
There is no colleague for whom I have had more affection and more respect than Joy Reid
I love everything about her. I have learned so much from her. I have so much more to learn from her.
I do not want to lose her as a colleague here at MSNBC. And personally, I think it is a bad mistake to let her walk out the door.
It is not my call. And I understand that. But that's what I think. I will tell you it is also unnerving to see that on a network where we've got two, count
them two, non-white hosts in primetime, both of our non-white hosts in primetime are losing
their shows, as is Katy Fang on the weekend.
And that feels worse than bad, no matter who replaces them.
That feels indefensible, and I do not defend it.
No job button!
But there's just one other piece of I do not defend it. No Joe Biden.
There's just one other piece of it that you should know.
Cook.
From your side of the TV screen, you will mostly see
changes in terms of who's in the anchor chair.
And actually, everybody who's going to be in anchor chairs
from here on out are great colleagues and great at what
they do.
And you are not going to be disappointed in who's on our
air and what you're going to be seeing.
But one thing you cannot necessarily see
is that the people who get our shows on the air,
they're really being put through the ringer.
Dozens of producers and staffers,
including some who are among the most experienced and most
talented and most specialist producers in the building,
are facing being laid off.
They're being invited to reapply for new jobs.
That has never happened at this scale in this way
before when it comes to programming changes,
presumably because it's not the right way to treat people,
and it's inefficient, and it's unnecessary.
And it kind of drops the bottom out
of whether or not people feel like this is a good place
to work, so we don't generally do things that way for you. Yeah, you can't do real on air right
to the people who are getting this very show on the air right
now maybe they will all get new jobs here and I hope they do
but
in the meantime being put in this kind of limbo
the anxiety and the discount to discombobulation is off the
charts at a time when this job already is extra stressful and difficult.
It is not news for me to tell you that the press and freedom of the press are under attack in a way that is really
it's a big deal for our country. It's very visceral for us here.
I know that the business of the press is not an easy thing and I know that no job is forever.
I know that the business of the press is not an easy thing, and I know that no job is forever.
But I think I'm safe in saying for all of us anchors
who you know through the TV,
please know that what pains us the most
is not what happens to us.
It is what happens to our coworkers on whom we depend
and who you don't necessarily know,
but we respect and love them and depend on them.
And did I mention we respect them?
Yo, man.
No, I love her.
Yeah, yeah.
Word, word.
She's one of them.
Yeah, she's body.
And has been one of them for some years.
No, she don't play with them.
No, she's one of my favorite whites.
Yeah.
Dog, she don't play.
Top tier white.
Top tier white.
Real good white, not like that ish.
That's not in this we talking about two different. No we not. I love her yo. She's amazing.
She absolutely smoked that. She did. I want to send a proper send off to
another one of my favorite whites. I feel like basketball never be the same.
Greg Popovich. It's being rumored that he will not return to the Spurs. Y'all know he was battling health complications.
I'm gonna miss him.
Me too.
And another great white in regards to the social shit
off of, off the court.
Yeah, speaking up.
And a heartbeat, he'll speak up and start wowing.
What you gonna do, fire me?
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, so that's amazing.
All right, I got a quick part of the show for y'all from someone named Jeremiah
Jeremiah says what up gang? I got a light-hearted question cuz some of these niggas be depressing
But I guess they are Joe Finn, so it's probably expected
He continues so I was listening to Holiday Inn by Chingy and realized
listen, I
Love this song. It was good. Yeah
And I had to compete with that motherfucker trump times me still
I I was listening to Holiday Inn by Chingy and realized he is the worst friend to invite to the hotel party
He said his homie called him up and had eight chicks in the hotel and all Chingy had to do was bring some liquor.
This motherfucker brings a 12 pack of Corona. One beer for everybody.
I don't know how we've gone this long and nobody has pointed that out.
My question is, have any of y'all been in a situation where everything was set, the girls were there and down,
but one of the homies fucks up the situation?
Flip kinda gives me the guy that jokes too much
and annoys the women vibe.
That was the end.
Oh damn.
Mm.
Let me.
You know, a lot of you get that mistaken,
and I can see why, but nah, not me. I mean, I know, a lot of you get that mistaken.
I can see why, but nah, not me.
I mean, I'm the vibe.
They want to come because of Flip, you know what I'm saying?
So that's your Flip.
You know, back in the days, I can see that.
Talk that shit Flip, get out of here.
No, no, no, no, for real.
Back in the days, yeah, but I had some niggas around me
that taught me the right way to do it.
And I learned, you got to navigate through these,
through these rooms full of vultures sure is nothing worse than someone showing up in charge of the alcohol
Yeah, bring only enough alcohol for them. Yeah
Bottom tier party etiquette and on top of that you have to just navigate through these things man, and you know and
the ladies
Love me and
They'll have fun, Joe.
Jeremiah, I wish I could speak to the topic,
but anytime a nigga was fucking up the kickback,
I went upstairs.
Hey, was there not another level
that you could bring the bitches to?
I went to the rooftop to get away from this
corny ass nigga.
Extra loud nigga, the nigga that's doing too much.
The nigga that's, yeah, the attention is on him. Nah, nah, that's doing too much. The nigga that's just doing it.
Yeah, the attention is on him.
Nah, nah, nah, nigga's on.
Yeah, I gotta away from him.
You're making him uncomfortable now.
The next party he's not invited to.
Yeah, no, he's done.
He's dubbed.
Nah, you're done.
He can't come.
You ain't invited up the stairs.
You'll stay down here and just make sure shit cool.
He might be invited to leave.
Sometimes you're in a tricky situation
because he may be the first one to hold you down
and hold you down if something pop off,
but you can't be great and perfect in every area.
Something pop off like how?
I'm at the crib during the kickback.
Oh, you're talking about your crib.
Some shit be popping off sometimes.
Well, I was doing the kickbacks at the crib.
I'm just saying, the nigga that don't know when to leave.
Oh, that's the worst.
Yo, you came, you shot the shot, it missed, it's over.
She's tapping a home girl
The nigga that can't handle his liquor
That was like Netflix before Netflix
Look at him. Look at him. Nah, that can go bad.
Yeah, because some niggas get belligerent.
Some niggas get belligerent.
Or they can't handle their coke, right?
Oh.
What the fuck wrong with you?
Please. You know how many of these, they front on this pod.
You know how many niggas was at the kickback when
Shorty went to the bathroom and came back
acting noticeably different.
Stop moving.
You know this?
Stop moving too fast?
Talking a little funny.
Who's the coolest one in here?
Who would be the coolest one in here at the kickback?
Me.
Who's the second one?
Me.
We know who the second one would be.
Who?
We know who.
Who you think?
You can answer, answer.
Fireman, nigga.
Fire drill, that's my man, fire drill.
He be cool.
Oh, how you doing?
I don't want him.
Girl, you can sit here.
Girl, don't worry about that.
You want my seat?
No, I don't want Isham in my kickback.
I don't.
You don't think Isham be in another kickback?
I don't want him in my kickback.
Why, competition?
No, you don't.
What he gonna do? He's cool, he's a conversationalist. He don't what he gonna do
He's cool. He's a conversation. He wants it then just look cute and drink water in the corner They're gonna get the fuck out make a joke or something play play a game now
I think so now it's got his bag once that boo came out, but other than that. Yeah, not get out of here
Nigga, if you don't talk bye, so it's gonna try to back try to bag what he can and get out of here
No, so Imani is gonna kick back though. He's Conversational bag what he can and get out of here. No, they got moves. So Imani's good at a kickback though, E.
Conversationalist, making people feel comfortable.
Imani's pretty good at kickback.
Okay.
He is.
He's quiet?
I put Imani second, just cause he just don't talk.
Really, I didn't know.
You didn't give me.
Are you like a quiet dude?
He tell y'all all the time that he the quietest.
I know, he don't get me.
My brother, look at him now, he quiet now.
I don't be quiet like that.
I don't holler.
Yeah, but hollering and making somebody feel comfortable
is two different things.
I can see him having the conversation
and being afraid.
He's funny than anybody I brought him around
or came around me.
I get it.
So he would be your W man?
Nah, nah, nah.
That's what you call it.
The kickback, if I had a kickback,
I think that I'd put all three of you on the same level.
Free's good at the kickback.
He gonna motherfucking get the hooker right.
He gonna set us up.
Set the T.
Oh, that's racist.
Yeah, that's racist, yo.
Watch your fucking mouth about Free's. Yo, see the T. That's racist, yo. What's your fucking mouth about Breeze? Are you crazy? It's a compliment.
It wasn't a compliment.
It was a compliment.
Hey, Breeze, don't change the chat.
That ain't no compliment.
You call that nigga tech support.
K-Boo guys.
Hey, Geek Squad.
K-Boo guys.
Hey, Geek Squad.
That's funny, son.
I like this question for everybody before we get to our sleepers. Mel, who are you with to kick back? Geek Squad! K-Ball guys! Geek Squad! That's funny, son. That is a compliment.
I like this question for everybody
before we get to our sleepers.
Mel, who are you at the kickback?
Who am I at the kickback?
Profile-wise, yeah.
I'm lit.
I'm Martinelli Mellie.
Can we have more words?
Um.
You swear that Martinelli Mellie shit.
I'm lit.
I'm social butterfly.
I'm walking around, I'm talking to people.
I can see that. I'm drinking.
Yeah, if there's games, I'm down to play.
Do you think that it'll be borderline annoying or you know the line?
I know the line. Okay.
Are you down to meet somebody at the kickback or are you one of those, hey, I'm just here because I got the invite.
I'm just look cute and have fun, but I'm trying to meet down to y'all at the kickback.
I pretty much talk to everybody. Unless you're fucking creepy, I talk to everybody.
I can see that.
So are you down to meet somebody at the kickback, I'm saying?
Yes.
Got it, got it, got it.
Marco, who are you at the kickback?
I'm laid back.
I'm a little quiet.
But chill, not like weirdo quiet, just quiet.
Yeah, I mean.
Harvard head ass niggas.
No, I'm not like that.
Everybody know Harvard.
Harvard niggas don't get to come to the kickback.
He's a sneaky one.
I was about to say the problem is,
That's a sneaky one.
Whatever you came with, you might not leave with.
He's standing by the, Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, yeah. I ain't sneaky, I just, you know. I can see that now. Nigga write the number down on the paper,
slip it, give them a shake their head,
and I'll say, they head, oh.
Keep that, you took it back to 92.
Yeah.
I know you're tight, Ma.
Who are you at the kickback clip?
When you get out of here.
Same, I'm quiet a little bit.
Quiet, chill, to myself.
And then, you know, when somebody talk to me,
I talk to them, but you gotta remember,
when people look at me, they already see me in one way.
As one way.
That's not a disc kickback.
They don't even know nothing about you.
Oh yeah, I'm still chill.
I mean, I'm gonna say what's up to everybody and chill
and go on my own world, probably chop it up with S&E,
make a couple of jokes, you see that?
And just keep it moving,
try to find a little corner and figure it out.
Do you become the center of attention at the kickback?
No, no, no.
So just here?
Yeah.
I get paid to be the center of attention, nigga.
There you go.
I get paid, nigga, watch your fuckin' mouth.
Huh?
My shit, watch your mouth, you're on the ground. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. That's why you ate mermaid, nigga. Huh? Yeah, watch your mouth, you old bruh.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
That's why you ate mermaids, man.
Look, look, look, look.
You got a mermaid, you know what that mean?
You was the center of attention, nigga.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, nigga, bro.
Hey, you just laughing.
Nigga, Joe said he turned around and the call was so,
hey, so you exposed me now?
Like, God.
Joe was funny, you know what I mean?
Mark having too much fun about me getting in.
Yeah, he really is.
Mark having a blast, good old time.
All right, I don't have anything else
that is near and dear to my heart
that I need to share with an audience.
What say you guys?
No, we good.
No, I'm straight.
I feel like I asked y'all so many questions.
Do y'all have anything to ask me?
Anything? Anything?
Anything y'all wanna share with the audience?
Anything that's important?
Anything that we might be forgetting?
You stumbled on the way out?
On the way out of where?
Mermaids.
You heard.
I didn't.
They ain't get no details.
No.
My man good, my man good.
He cool.
No, I didn't.
Did you think I did?
You ain't hit me.
You ain't hit me to check on me like Freeze.
Yeah, why would I do that?
Freeze hit me the next day, 3 o'clock on a Sunday.
Nigga, I'm gonna be dead in the hospital by then.
You ought to wake up and say, nah, I'm good.
Now, your exit routine is lit, though.
I watch your exit routine.
Now, you do a trick, like...
No, you did a different one this time.
He tried to go up that way.
Nah, he ran a fire escape this time.
Hey, listen, he tried to act like he going up that way.
He do some ill shit.
He tried to act like he going through that way. He do some ill shit.
He tried to act like he going through that door
and then just get to the wall and then walk back slowly
and exit down the door you don't see him.
Where you going, nigga?
Maybe on Patreon.
I got a rant that's inside of me.
I got a rant.
No, I got a rant.
But you gotta get it out, Joe.
Get it out.
No, no, no.
You gotta get it out.
Dude, no, no.
You gotta take it to the bank, nigga.
I need that.
I got a rent.
I need that 30 piece.
On Patreon, though.
You're right.
I need that 30.
They will get us up.
Yeah.
I'm not joining the rent.
I'm not going on a rent.
Yo, yo, yo.
Because.
Hey, Flip Fontaine.
I'm not going on a rent.
That's for a 30 piece.
Say hey, hey hey Flippy.
We would like to know how
he can get there.
He tried to involve y'all.
I don't give a fuck.
I didn't involve y'all.
He tried to do it as a group.
I said, ask y'all. Right Joe?
You got shit on me? I don't give a fuck about that.
I'm like, the niggas are
strong in they field. I told you all that.
I said, I ain't gonna lie, he brought everybody up.
Well, if we, I said, I looked at this nigga like he had 16 heads in that closet, whatever that shit Parks got, that booth.
I said, nigga, what?
I tried to bring up all the ensemble cash.
I don't give a fuck, nigga. This is what I want.
I was like, alright, damn, bullshit.
Alright, man. Jesus, man.
Alright, man.
All right, well.
Say it, we be the rapper.
Well, I mean, I ain't mad at you, but, uh.
Oh, shit.
That was the point it looked like we've, uh.
Let me stop.
Oh, shit.
Head to the road.
Oh, my God.
All right, I got a sleeper.
I got something to be sleeping on.
Let's do it.
I got something to be sleeping on.
When you was telling us about the, you said you're not going to go on a ramp, but, and you started to say something. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God. All right, I got a sleeper. I got something they've been sleeping on. I got something they've been sleeping on.
Well, you was telling us about the,
you said you're not gonna go on a rant,
but you started to say something.
Good job, Ice.
Oh, I'm saving my rant, please, bro.
Oh, you're gonna save it now?
Yeah, I'm putting my rant.
But what's the rant about?
Just so people can be-
Yeah, you were talking about this.
It's about the internet people.
And my new thing, I can't respond to internet people.
The 27 views people?
The internet people, no.
The internet people just are internet people,
so you can't be like a real human in real life
and just have all these responses to them.
But just reading some of the shit.
Say it.
I feel like you're wrong.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
a lot of it, when I went through the comments,
a lot of it was inappropriate,
especially for some of the people that you could,
that are tangible and you could be familiar with.
I felt the same way.
Same thing when Cam did that same shit to me.
It's like, nigga, you?
People get, I agree with him on that. Like people get massaged themselves when it comes to
figures that they may look up to, dissing n****s that they may know. And it's a blurred
line to that.
Yeah, I wanna go off, bro. I wanna go off.
Even when I read that, I felt the same way.
Yeah, so I just ain't a drink, why do I just say it to 50 Cent?
All right, internet.
Let's talk about a picture.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Let's get to it.
Let's now act like, all right.
You know what.
All right, I got a sleeper from some little white boy.
Let's see, his name is Greek.
I played him up here before.
Did you?
Did I get this song from you?
It's possible.
You're my son.
Do you remember?
Oh, shit.
Oh.
She took it crazy.
I don't know what you did with her.
She had her auntie back.
She's going at it too crazy.
Hey, Jun Jun.
Ever since the nigga chased you out of Mermaid's Quay, stop.
Because you can't be true.
No, but for real, I know you draw.
I don't want to step in the joke.
Did I get it for you?
Did I play something else?
Yes.
I played it back in January.
OK, then I am going to.
Yeah, really good song.
It is.
Shout out to Alex, man, where these niggas begin to sleep it from me. All right, so I'm going with ombre friend of the show
And this record is called actually no, I'm not no, I'm not no, I'm not hold up. I might have been one of mine
All right, I'm going with my girl, Tempest,
friend of the show, and this record is called Stop Playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah You set a fuck up bitch you don't like Cause you lost that bitch you love
Stop playin' with me
Oh, stop playin' with me
Yeah, you set a fuck up bitch you don't like
Cause you lost that bitch you love
Stop playin' with me
Stop playin' with me, stop playing with me
Talk a lot, yeah you talk too much
You act like it's in love, your actions a dub
But just don't add up, forget around
Yeah who's climbing now?
Yeah, who's coming now? Conversations are you wasting?
When the day is over
You gon' settle for a bitch you don't like
Cause you lost that bitch you love
Ooh, stop playing with me
Stop playing with me
Yeah, you settle for a bitch you don't like
Cause you lost that message you're not Stop playing with me Stop playing Yeah you settle for a bitch you don't like
Cause you lost that message you're not
Ooh stop playing
Ooh stop playing
Stop playing
We'll be walking on a thin line, thin line
Who's on your mind?
Who's it gonna be then all of it was just a game?
But it feels like, like this time, to lose
Can't keep chasing looking lights
You know you can't do it
You're a set of what I bet you don't like
Cause you lost that bitch you loved
I don't know you thought't like, stop playing with me
Stop playing, stop playing, stop playing with me
Stop playing, stop playing, stop playing with me
Yeah, you started with a bitch you don't like, cause you lost that bitch that you love
Stop playing with me, stop playing, stop playing with me
Stop playing with me, stop playing with me
Still got your way, wish I was proud of you baby
Still you pass the bat, looking forward to be playing Oh, you know you know you know it's me, it's me
Ba-ba-ba, you know
Things that I like you know That is my girl Tempest and that record is called Stop Playing Brand New Old Music.
Shout out to Tempest, friend of the show man, hopefully she is doing well and that's what
I got for y'all.
What's up?
Alright, I'm going up to Buffalo with mine.
This is Benny the Butcher and Ill Tone Beats, 36 ounces in the Mercedes N***a, my life a movie Trust me, Martin Scorsese couldn't write
this shit I'm on an island trip watching Tyson Clips
I'm twice as rich so my diamond kit do my guy with tricks
This how being thorough look I'm so dope and got a hook
Or I just took advice from a crook But got my knowledge out of book
I rent a mansion in LA and tell a caller for
friends It's fucked up how enemies last longer than
friends, got a stamp And all I wanted was a Benz and a brick, uh
36 houses and a Mercedes, yeah All we wanted was a Benz and a brick, uh
36 houses and a Mercedes, let's go
I risked my freedom for that Benz and that brick
36 houses and a Mercedes, yeah
All we wanted was a Benz and a brick, yeah
36 houses and a Mercedes, let's go
I got thoughts in my brain racing for voices saying be patient
We front runners, we crunch numbers just like age it went from locked up in cages now
We popped up on stages what I don't know why from no major my name on top of your playlist
You gotta know what's hustle involved. It's either get eight being from the jungle and all before I got this comfortable
I had to stumble and fall my neck worth a hundred for sure, I'm not as humble as y'all
That's how they made me in, 36 ounces and a Mercedes
Nigga, my heart still on Tennessee and Bailey
I'm writing shit about my life, I think it's only a song
Nigga, you crazy, cause it's back to playing corners if I get lazy
Let's go, ah
And all I wanted was a Benz and a brick 36 houses and a Mercedes
All we wanted was a Benz and a brick 36 houses and a Mercedes
I risked my freedom for that Benz and that brick
36 houses in a Mercedes All we wanted was a Benz and a brick
36 houses in a Mercedes I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star
I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star
I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star
I'm gonna be a star, I'm gonna be a star
I'm gonna be a star, Benny the Butcher and Ill Tone Beats.
He put a little, B.S.F. put a little two pack out.
Oh, okay.
Shot the whole B.S.F. bit.
It's that and then the other one is Conway and Ill Tone record.
Oh, okay.
I think there's an album coming from that too if I'm not mistaken.
Nice.
I'm going to fill you.
This is R.J.
Payne and Eric Sermon.
Right cross.
Yeah.
You know what time it is, don't you?
It's that three piece. Eric Sermin, Right Cross. Yeah.
You know what time it is, don't you?
It's that three piece. Eric Sermin, R.J. Payne, Death Squad.
Beautiful Payne Entertainment, Tito on the boards.
Watch this, watch this.
Look, get it straight, I obliterate mics.
My skill level's superb, words imitate life
The renegade type, I used to run the street Now my destination is underneath the center
stage lights I was gutter made, dearly beloved, I dug your
grave The heart of a king and I got the blood of
a slave Spilled my soul on a paper until I flooded the
page Just for everybody that put in work and it
wasn't paid Soon as I made a pivot, we made a blizzard EPMD, Eric and Payne, we makin' digits
If I was gonna paint you a picture I'd make it vivid
This flick is one of my greatest and my latest exhibit, yeah
Picasso maybe, I'm not so crazy I'm old school but I ain't never going rock, old Navy
The whole block obey me, I'm the truth if I shoot
Ain't no way I'm a Mr. Shell, word of a rock, old lady, it's Payne!
Uh, ayo, back up from the road, uh, you haven't seen this dope since Pop Smoke I'm the truth if I shoot it in the way I'm a Mr. Shell, word of a rock old lady, it's PENG!
Ayo back up from the road, you haven't seen this dope since Pop Smoke, nope, Erick and
Payne hard to cope, Cap's already scared and he ain't even spoke, y'all prepared for the
worst Think Baghdad, bombs dropping everywhere, that's
the hashtag, shell nuff, that's me in the last drag, get the wrong idea and end up in
the trash bag
If I was you I'd raise the flag, white Cause any other color, good night
And yeah, I'm about that action Eric, I'm him, y'all can read the caption
This the wrong set, them dudes is actin' Just a bunch of extras, no attraction
Ask them, that's a bunch of lame ass niggas A bunch of no name ass niggas
Yeah, I call them how I see em
Are you entertained? With no color see em
Yeah, this hip hop thing is how I feed em
Eric, RJ Payne is kinda hard to beat em
See I be leaving Earth when I start writin'
I got the freedom, lyrics I provide
Come from inside of a mausoleum, how'd you be em?
I come pull up while I was drivin' to GM
If I met her this m, I'm hitting by 5pm
See it's about to get lit, just a chapter to get rich
And I ain't gotta talk slick and disarrapa
I told em get off my dick quick, you halfs to these bullets that I got
And my clip could flip a tractor, the dope is in the pot
I'm woken up to block, the cocaine that went mainstream
It's floating up the dock, I'm loading up the Glock
If you don't blow your weapon, you gon' do a show in heaven
Have you open up for Pock?
I been bagging up the work
I had to go berserk
I made so much racket even John Mackerel was hurt
Boy you have to go research
I'm rolling blunts up with 20s on a dump truck
I'm just dragging over Dervis Pank!
He went crazy
RJ Payne, Eric Sermon, Red Cross
He went crazy
Yeah he went too crazy on there boy Damn He went too. R.J. Payne, Eric Sermon, Ray Cross. He went crazy. Yeah, he went too crazy on there, boy.
Damn.
He went too crazy on there.
I'm going to Leia the Leo, IFY.
I've been on a roll, been on a run Now I'm looking for someone to love me right And it's looking like I might've found someone to hold me when it gets cold
I'm not even asking for forever
Really I'm just hoping to whatever gets my mind off the right and the wrongs
What do you know?
I found you
You
I found you, babe
Tell me what's a girl to do, I haven't thought of doing it
I don't mean to play with your emotions
If you're open I can show you how it feels
I let you come inside the confines of my mind
Cause baby there's nothing to fear
I know you're not asking for forever
Looking for someone who does it better
Can't get it off your mind, maybe that's the reason why
I found you
You I found you You
I found you
Baby
I found you
You
I found you
I found you Oh no, oh no, no
I found you
Tell me what you wanna do
We could try out something new, baby
Tell me what you wanna do
Got my hands all over you, baby
I think we should see it through, think you got something to prove
With the way you look right through me
I think you should do me
I can't find a million reasons not to stay
Like I got work in the morning
I got some calls I'm ignoring to keep it real
I don't even know your name
But we both know there's one reason I'm at your place
So let's just live in the moment
We'll work it out in the morning
All I can say is I found you
You
You
No, no, no
No
I found you
That's Leah the Leo, is that how we're pronouncing it?
Leah
Leah the Leo Is you That's Leah the Leo, is that how we're pronouncing it? Leah. Leah the Leo.
Leah the Leo.
Have you ever, um,
Play a dude?
Have you ever met a,
or even an unattractive vocalist?
Of course.
Who?
It's part of this whack ass game to get the DMs lit.
You ain't slick.
Bell?
Mine is by Zaya Bell, it's called 1-800 heartbreak
when you say that you feel the same way that I feel about you Don't play with my heart, I need you to make a move
Can't afford to put my heart on the line to be hung up on you
So what you gon' do?
As I lay here dreaming in this bed of stars
I pray I wake up right next to your heart
What a brush you give me sends me up to Mars
I hope you come, I hope you come, baby I hope you come, I hope you come
Am I, am I trippin'?
Won't do much, I'm flippin', ooh, but this is different
Gave myself a mission I'm tryna go missing out the way with you and bullshit
On some real shit, I hope you feel this
Mmm, call me back baby, I'm still here
Mmm, call me back baby, I'm still here
Ooh, ooh
As I lay here dreaming in this bed of stars
I pray I wake up right next to your heart
When I brush your giving, sends me home to Mars
I hope you come home I hope you come home
I hope you don't leave me
I hope you come home
You've been on my mind
I hope you call me
I hope you come?
Come, come 1-800-HEARTBREAK. I ain't gonna lie to long, Amel don't have a nigga, she turning into like sleeper galactus.
It's tough to take her out, man. She just home, digging internally, watering plants, feeding the cat.
She's just home, picking out lonely slaps.
1-800-HEARTBREAK. Go ahead fellas, dial it up.
If you listen out to your dial-it number.
Who's next?
Y'all pick.
You play boy.
Go ahead.
You wanna go last?
Nah, I go last.
What?
Mine is from They.
They got a new album out called Love Jones.
And this joint is called Rotation.
Oh, sorry.
This is from They.
They got a new R&B album out called
Love Jones in the track is a rotation I'll be with you feeling someday She's going with us I'll be with you feeling someday
No, Jovan!
Day and night, some stand past tears
Pulse up, make it go away smooth
Grip tight, I can barely move
Baby, you've been on my mind
Day and night, so you know that I'm on
Pull up, I ain't gotta stay long
All night, we be playing my song
Playing my song
Keep that in rotation, keep that in rotation
Keep that in rotation, keep that in rotation
Good head, knowledge, three cups, I'm vibin'
Sexually violent, sexually thiving Hop on and ride it, come get this mileage
Switch all of me, drive it, switch all of you, take charge
Touching, caressing, while I'm stripping you naked
Tying both of your hands up Love watchin' you take it
I'm applyin' depression Girl you got me so anxious
Don't talk to me nasty You're not the one you should play with
Late nights, I'ma stand past it I suppose I'll make it go away smooth
Great type, I could barely move
Baby, you been on my mind
All day, nights, so you know that I'm on
Cool up, I ain't gotta stay long
All night, baby, playin' my song
Playin' my song Keep that in rotation Keep that in rotation
Keep that in rotation
Pay the slider to the curb in a Bentley sedan
Take your foot off D&D, I'ma call an advance
And I know it's been a while but I'm taking a chance
Hurt that nigga that you wouldn't go according to plan
Girl, where you got me geek? Really turning me on? Yeah, I know you be on bass but I'm taking a chance, right that nigga that you wouldn't go according to plan Girl, where you got me geek? Really turning me on?
Yeah, I know you be on bangs, but I'm playing along
Trying to see how it feels, how it feel in my palm
Oh, while you touching, caressing
While I'm stripping, you naked
Tie both of your hands up
Love watching you take it
I'm applying the pressure
Girl, you got me so anxious Don't talk to me nasty I'm not the pressure, girl you got me so anxious
Don't talk to me nasty, I'm not the one you should play with
Late nights I'm standin' past tears, post-hump make it go and smooth
Grip tight like a belly move, baby you been on my mind
Late nights so you know that I'm on, up, I ain't gotta stay long All night, we be playin' my song
Playin' my song
Keep that invitation
Keep that invitation
Keep that invitation
Keep that in rotation So
Oh, we have it under control
We're going to be the country man
We're going to be the country man Big Flip, what now you got?
Yo, I'm going to Trinidad.
Carnival is around the corner next week.
Are you going?
Yes.
I'm going to play a record from Trinidad Killer featuring Nicki Minaj remake of Eskimo.
Trini where?
Trini, Trini, Trini where?
Trini know it, Trini eyes, Trini here.
I ain't see only mother come Trini here.
Keep on the beat, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini,
Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, Trini, He want his name in the snow so I write it down I make these bitches lift up I don't fight them down
When he see me he be getting so excited now this, the vibe, the feeling alive
You know how I'll turn the gun, miss the sun when it snows
And I can't fight the feeling, and I wish I could be there for you
When you turn the road, I'll write your name in the snow
Now I'm missing the feeling, and I miss all these ass and the party
Cause all I got is the man, I'm feeling lonely
Only vibes, only fun in the party
Big up to all the friends everybody
She my inferior, motives ulterior
These bitches bad but I am a bit scarier Only vibes only fun in the bar Big up to one of them every party
She my inferior, motives ulterior
These bitches bad but I am a bit scarier
Eskimo coupe, that's the white on white interior
I'm in your area, eatin' no cafeteria
You let me, let me hear, rebel be cherry here
Them trini real nice, them Andes really stare
Bitches be talkin' bout they trini, be like trini we're
I is the only mother cunt trini here
I know you wanna hit it, come send you for, St. James for the spang if you really ready
I miss you bad though, when you coming back home, Waste on skinny but that ass on fat so
Big up the people who just fight for what?
Dumb day, dumb day, to keep the music playing, to keep the music moving
Big up the people who just fight for what? I'm your naughty gal and I'm lost for you, so keep the music with them. Better be people who just fight for the win.
And you know they got them life for you.
So keep the music playing.
Eskimo.
You know I won't take the call.
I'm not feeling alone.
That's brand new music.
It's brand new music.
Trinidad Killer.
Hey, Trinidad Killer featuring Nicki Minaj.
Eskimo, the remix.
Look, don't look at me. Why are you looking at me? What you gotta say? What happened nothing?
I don't have nothing to say. We support our brothers and sisters
Yeah always
Split version of the check-in
Making sure he's safe
Yo I'm headed to Trinidad next week. Here you go Trinidad killer.
All right, now you got it.
You got it big dog.
This podcast is over, but it would be unfair to our good sister Mel if we didn't at least
allow her to make a trade.
You wasn't here. Go her to make a trade.
You wasn't here.
Go ahead and make a trade. No fucking way.
You gotta do it, man.
No, I do not.
Now, please.
No, no.
No one will take a person up here.
Huh?
No one will take a person.
It's funny.
Please participate.
Just trade us, man.
Please, man.
Anybody.
Seriously.
For real.
However you feel, no judgment.
I really can't say that I would trade anybody.
I'm sorry.
I just, I like everybody's personalities up here.
And how different they are.
If we could trade a money for Tripp Fontaine, we'd do it.
I thought this was main cast.
No, anybody.
You can't trade anybody. No. Nope.
She took the freeze route. She got out of there. Mark how about you? I don't want to be
unfair to you. You can make a trade if you want. Oh, no, I'm good
Orange all mature
Package all two together
See what we have an M M and M M and M see we can get back for some M&M think we get 50
For y'all to yeah See we can get back for some M&M. You think we can get 50? For your altar? Yeah.
Well we know we can get 50 and we get rid of you.
As soon as we get on the elevator,
you going over the fire escape.
Oh shit, listen.
This weekend is March 1st.
Yeah. That's true.
That's our gym reservation for the people that have forgotten.
I see you over there stretching your legs,
doing all types of bullshit.
Are you cool?
If you're there, I'm there.
I'm there.
Say less.
Ish. I'll be there.
Flip.
Can you give us a time and a location though? He said six o'clock. I think it's at 6 p.m. right? Oh I didn't get that.
But we didn't get the location though. Yeah we didn't get deeps. I'll send an address to the group chat.
And then send it to everybody who's not on the group chat so there's no excuses.
I'll send it to the group chat and I'll send it to Ish. Saturday 6 o'clock.
We lit. Mel you're more than welcome. Thank you.
That's that. We lit.
Yo, real quick, by the way,
we didn't say this during the show.
Yesterday Wu-Tang Clan announced their final tour.
I'm going to that one.
So just everybody grab tickets.
I always wanted people to support it.
That's all.
You know what I mean?
They'll be in Newark,
so y'all can go to see it in the world's dirtiest city.
You can also catch it in Philly, New York,
and every place else.
Yeah, that was New Jersey's dirtiest city.
You think- You know. Philly, you know Philly's dirtiest city. You think you think. You know.
Philly, Philly, you know Philly's dirtier than Newark, right?
No, I don't know about that.
You out your mind.
You know, you know.
Every time I go to Newark, I'll see it's dirt.
Projects and rats.
Ain't no projects and ain't no rats.
Yeah, there's definitely some projects.
There's no projects in Newark.
Where was I when I ran up in the projects?
By accident.
When they chased you?
Nah, quite the opposite.
Quite the opposite.
You chased them? You laid something you? Nah. Quite the opposite. Quite the opposite. When you chased them?
When you laid something down?
Yeah.
What happened?
Oh.
Doc laid something down?
You wanted to fill the hood again,
so you went and something?
No, what happened was, no, I wasn't.
Why you looking at me like we had this conversation?
Because we did have this conversation.
I asked you where I was at.
I was in Maplewood, and somebody stole my Benihana,
and these niggas started taking my shit, like ain't nobody Maplewood stealing my Benihana
So I started chasing these niggas
That's not no project
Then I get in the car keep chasing then I went I left Maplewood end up in another neighborhood and before I knew I was
In some high rise with a bunch of niggas like who you here for and I was like, you know
I don't need the Benihana that bad. I thought it was
Yeah, you got a body like Seshwan you
So if you could look at the camera right now and give a word to the Maplewood niggas
Maplewood They let you They're... Maplewood
We got a rapper that let you slide
What did you say?
They let you slide
I was driving around for hours
You settled straight in Maplewood right?
He was acting like you was looking for him but you know
I was looking
I think it was a block away from Seton Hall
That's a good word
You said that's what I'm talking about
Borderline of South Orange
Nah
You don't get your ass out of here
What's Irvington Avenue? What is that?
Maplewood nigga
No no I was at... it's the part... no nigga
Ivy Hill or something
It's newer It's Ivy Hill. It's Newark.
It's the Ivy Hill project.
It's the Ivy Hill apartment building.
Maplewood turned into Newark right on that street.
3 million people, 3 million people.
Whatever man, whatever.
Nigga didn't get his shit back.
I definitely didn't get my shit back.
Definitely a serial that night.
Really?
They stole your Benny Harnas? Yeah, from Uber Eats. It's gonna make that nigga heart jump
Listen man, hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we have enjoyed delivering it to you
Keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there until the next time we bid you a dude farewell
Adios, Arriba, Durche, Osta, La la vista, arvoire, a simple head nod will suffice.
Remember life is a series of moments and moments pass, so let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Hopefully everybody has a real productive week.
Anybody doing anything fly this week?
Anybody doing anything?
I'm just busting some niggas ass and ball.
How about y'all?
Yeah, work it.
Just work, you know.
Get into it.
Heading on down to Orlando for my niece's birthday party.
Oh yeah, Orlando.
Oh yeah, yeah Orlando.
That's it.
I was gonna go, I forgot about the gym.
I ain't missing the gym.
Hi man!
Actually, I'm going to go to the gym.
Cause you know that I'll be here to keep you warm I ain't even got it in my computer, but let's stream it up.
Come on man, let's get out of here the right way.
Rest in peace Roberta Flack.
Rest in peace.
The legend.
88 years old man, it's a nice life.
It is.
It's a nice life. It is. Great life. That is a nice life. Hey
there we go.
She gone so I can't do none of the Roberta Flack talks I used to have with my dad.
It's over. Rest in peace for those talks. Hey come on now 70 and up 70 and up out there. Hey 60 and up out there
let's go. Come on now. Mel, airplane is in Canada? No. Yes.
I heard he had a son And so I
He's on their phone with Roberta, come on, alright
Alright
Listen for a while
She's a queen, she's a legend
After what you said?
Yes, she's still a legend, even more so now
Even more so
It's that time
Here you go
Hey
Singing my life with the drums Here you go. Hey. Do, do, do, do, do, do.
Do, do, do, do, do.
With his song,
With his song,
With his song, telling
my whole life
With his words, killing
me softly.
With his
song. Bam, bam, bam, bam. I'm gonna give something with his arms
Bam bam bam bam
That's not right, that's not right
That's just a testament to her greatness
That's all
Oh what the f-
This is dysfunctional
Not at all
I don't think so
I think that's a tribute
We honor her
Two times
We honor her and then we gettin' out here. Rest in peace Al Trawick. Nick's
legend Nick's announcer legend also Lester Holt stepped down from the news so he could
focus full-time on Dateline shout out to Lester Holt legend a lot of legends moving around