The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 805 | "Support The Lie"
Episode Date: March 5, 2025Beaten and battered from their recent basketball outing, the JBP kicks off the latest episode discussing how their bodies are feeling days later (3:07) before sending their condolences to Angie Stone�...��s loved ones following her tragic passing (33:30). The crew then turns to the Oscars 2025 (45:25) which includes Adrian Brody & Halle Berry’s kiss (52:20) as well as some criticism surrounding Zoe Saldana (1:00:23). Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis and Lamont Roach Jr.’s fight over the weekend (1:27:30), Sixers Paul George says he’s taking a break from podcasting to focus on the rest of the season (1:44:32), and **SPOILER ALERT** reactions to the ‘Paradise’ season finale on Hulu (1:53:30). Also, Notorious B.I.G.'s catalog is reportedly on sale which leads to a conversation on IP, being blackballed, and life’s roadblocks (2:08:51), the latest on Anthony Edwards status as a parent brings the room into a discussion on patriarchal designs & culture (2:50:43), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: www.patreon.com/joebudden Sleeper Picks: Joe | dvsn - “One in a Million” Ice | Jim Jones - “Back in My Bag” Parks | 6ix, KYLE, & Blu (feat. Buddy & Like) - “Firmament” Ish | Bryson Tiller - “Play It Off” Melyssa | Col3trane & Chase Shakur - “Crocodile Tears” Marc | Vertical Hold - “Seems You're Much Too Busy”
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I thought he was on air already.
No, we're on now.
Oh, we're here.
Now you got your shit, yo.
Hi my injured brethren.
How y'all feeling?
Kevin Gates. Good day my brothers. Hi my injured, injured brethren. How y'all feeling?
Kevin Gates.
Good day my brothers.
What you asking me?
Two phones.
One for the plug, one for...
Yeah, come on Kevin Gates.
Here you go.
I'm not supposed to be here today bro.
Why not?
Where you supposed to be?
On vacation.
What happened?
Oh, what happened. What happened?
Oh, what happened?
What happened?
Oh, I have an event coming up this weekend.
Sure they had a change of plans?
No, no, I just have an event coming up this weekend.
So, you know, I had to stay back and focus on that.
Promote the show.
Promote the show.
Mm-mm, mm-mm.
Promote it.
You'll be in the positivity highlighter?
Yes.
I got the room this weekend.
I may not be here Friday, but you know I'm here today.
I just want to show moral support.
Damn, man.
Fuck.
Had big plans for you on Friday.
You hear that, fans?
Flip won't be here at the next part,
and I'm sad about that.
No, you're not.
No, that's disappointing.
Behind the scenes, you just took the shit to me just now.
No, I wasn't.
I said I totally understand.
Go ahead, go, nigga.
Go.
Yeah, you can leave whenever you want.
I ain't gonna beef about it.
Yes, sir.
And you have a understanding.
All right.
We got a understanding.
Yeah, but I'm here.
Happy to be here, happy to see you all.
I'm happy to see you all.
It feels good to watch a bunch of old men
yawn and de-hurt while I'm over here young
and I can kick my legs off stretcher.
You didn't do anything.
You ain't right here, bro. Young? You You didn't do anything. You ain't young.
You ain't right here, bro.
Young? You ain't young?
You're not young.
Two more years to 40.
That's not young.
Listen, I'ma hold on to it.
I'ma hold on to it.
I'm about to dye my beard.
Get some surgery, do some weight.
I'm about to do something.
I need to hold on to that.
You gonna be in the BBL?
Maybe.
You gonna dye your beard for real?
I am.
She's too gray, yo. Like, come on, I got a BBL? Maybe. You gonna dye your beard for real? I am. This shit too gray, yo.
Like, come on, I got a big gray patch.
Like here.
Both sides.
Yeah, it's not even gray right.
That's the annoying shit.
Yo, it ain't even gray right.
Not even proportion right.
I got two big gray patches.
Chin perfect.
Means you didn't stress enough.
Your life too easy. That means I stressed. You didn't stress enough. You didn't stress enough.
You lived a good life.
Are you crazy?
That's what it means.
You could go down to just the goatee.
That's what it means.
I'd be like, one of them Chris Hansen characters.
Who made the blowfish.
I only wanna be with you.
How y'all playing?
This is how we be here for five hours.
I'm leaving at a certain time.
What's going on today?
Why you leaving early?
Nothing.
Gotta go rest some knees.
Ice bath.
Ice bath.
What's been going on?
The bed.
The bed, fucking leg compressions, and cryotherapy.
I forgot to break out my little massage gun.
Yeah.
I mean you're dedicated to the work cuz while injured
I'm twisted. Yeah, I'm twisted. Yeah, I
Mean better than yesterday. Yeah
Yesterday's the rough one second day is the worst. Yeah second day. My Sunday was bad. I couldn't walk we went to go
For the people unaware
We went to go. for the people unaware, we went to go, we had the bright idea.
Genius.
The genius plan of going to rent a gym on Saturday night
at 6 p.m. and play basketball.
That was the problem.
The start time I think was really the big issue.
Wait, so what would have happened if it started at 1 p.m.?
It would have been better.
You would have gotten hurt with the sun out.
Amen.
Jesus fuck no.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
You would have gotten hurt with the sun out.
I don't think so.
Our bodies are ready for bed at 6 o'clock.
We need to get that early.
I was falling asleep on the way to the gym.
I was like, damn, this is normally my nap time.
So I think my body was a little confused.
Why are we doing things? this is normally my nap time. So I think my body was a little confused.
Why are we doing things?
And then the closer we got to the gym,
now like the closer you get to the bathroom
when you gotta use it,
like you start pissing on yourself a little bit.
Like piss on your thigh a little bit.
Turtles start coming out.
Little yellow stains on your drawers,
just a little sprinkle.
Like it's that.
The closer we got to the gym,
my body was telling myself,
yo dog, what are you doing?
What are you doing right now?
And then we got there, I said, you know what, let me stretch.
And during the stretch,
I said, you stretched?
Yeah.
I was there early.
And during the stretch, I'm like, this, I was there early. And during the stretch I'm like, I'm tired now.
I was tired from the little shoot around.
And then I grabbed the ball and did a little shoot around.
And I say, yeah, I'm tired.
I think I jammed my thumb and shoot around.
That's really what the most pain is for me.
Oh my God.
I have so much respect for anybody that's ever played basketball at any level
yo Rudy Fernandez, Hernandez, Jose Alvarez, anybody I ever thought was J Cole.
Obama.
Yeah.
Anybody that's ever played ball yo, my, my, oh my god yo.
I haven't decided if I need to play more basketball
or completely retire.
Yo.
I think you would have been okay
if you had better shoes, though.
I think you would have been okay if you had better shoes.
Maybe, yeah.
What shoes ballin' in?
Pumas.
Oh yeah.
Low top.
And jeans.
I was just jeanin'.
Jeans shorts.
Jeans shorts is crazy.
The answer is more.
I think so. More, yeah. The answer is more. It's more, yeah. The answer is more. It's more. But you won't,
you'll feel better. This is the first time I played, I played competitive basketball
twice in the last 20 years. Saturday being the second of the, that's not enough. No.
It ain't 20 for me, but it's a good eight. That was the first time I probably hooped
in like eight years. I thought I had an advantage
because it was my second time playing.
In five.
In five, right.
I played a few weeks ago, you know.
And yeah, no.
I got to a point, I thought I was going to have the jump too
because I shot on Friday.
We all thought you were going to have the jump, but.
Yeah, my body.
It didn't really turn out that way.
It didn't turn out that way at all.
I had a lot of pre-injuries.
That shit felt amazing. It did. Oh, even gasping for air felt amazing. It didn't turn out that way at all. I got a lot of pre-injuries. That shit felt amazing.
It did.
Even gasping for air felt amazing.
It did.
You know what I'm saying?
Like being tired, all of that shit.
Pick left, watch out, the bump, all of that shit felt good.
Oh, it was fun.
My feet ain't get the memo.
None of my body did.
My brain is like, yo, I had Keebs sticking me.
I thought that was a little insulting.
I'm not gonna tell.
Nah, Keebs was high.
Keebs was the MVP. Shit, Keebs. Nah, I thought that was a little insulting. I'm not gonna lie. Nah, Keeb was the highest. Keeb was the MVP, shit.
Keeb, Keeb.
Joe's the MVP, boy.
Keeb, Keeb, ball, Keeb's in shape more than all the others.
That's what I'm saying, Keeb stayed healthy.
Keeb chose a high basketball IQ.
He did, he did.
Was in great shape.
That IQ shit, as you age, you start to see me as important.
That's what matters, that's all that matters.
Because our bodies ain't good for shit.
That's good for me.
I was like, yo.
Like, cool, I had a good time.
That was a great idea.
Next time I will do things differently.
I have some subs.
Yeah, yeah.
We could have ran threes and used fucking them and subs.
We'll have some subs there next time.
Cause when I posted the picture of me and Mark
looking half dead laying on the floor,
like the niggas I know that hoop a little bit,
they was hype.
Yeah. Yo, your bum ass went out there,
let me know next time, let me know next time.
I was like, okay, I can get some subs in this thing.
But I think that's exactly what my 44 year old ass needed.
Yeah.
That's exactly what I needed to do at 44
on my sit down on the couch and talk job
for the last 10 years.
I needed to go out there and run my body around
and see the effects of this shit and boy did I.
Wake up call.
Boy did I.
I work out and I thought that was enough.
It's not enough.
It's not enough.
It's not enough.
If you don't play ball,
what they say is when you're young,
you play ball to get in shape.
Right.
And when you get older,
you have to get in shape to be able to play ball.
Because when you hit your 40s,
like your skill diminishes with your lack of conditioning.
So like you can't shoot if you don't have any legs up.
You can't shoot because of your mobility.
Coordination is off.
Just even shooting a jump shot,
you're not planting your feet the right way.
All of that shit.
Yeah, my mechanics were horrible.
It was horrible.
Man, you know us, we think we just got it.
I got it.
Look at this thing.
I got it.
That's the funny part is how I was talking before this game.
Oh, yeah.
I had the 31-year-old picture of myself
on the kick-ass.
That happens every day in here.
Wait, hold up.
Hold up one minute, y'all.
What did you say?
A little hate.
No, no, absolutely.
Make some time for a little hate.
Go ahead.
Absolutely not.
He said you think you 31 every time they come in?
No, what he just said.
You talking about the shit-talker? You talking about the shit-talker? No, no, no, thinking that, you know, oh, I'm too tall. We think you 31 every time they come in know what he just said
No thinking that you know that she talking about that male macho bravado
Lead with our ego you guys definitely
Delusion yeah, she has a real version of what we all look like through the through the through the female gaze
But she won't ever tell us because our egos are fragile too. And she knows that working with us.
Listen, I'm-
That's really the truth.
It is.
I'm an interloper here.
I'm the only girl.
But it's also reciprocated.
How's that?
What do you mean?
Go.
Ho-wham.
You're saying you're the most chicken yourself.
I've never claimed to be so, but the record is the record.
We can see where Melissa is five to six days a week on her Instagram page, getting her
mobility up, getting her strength and endurance up.
Talk about it.
No, no, no.
What sport do you play?
Pilates.
No, if you were to play what we just did, what would that be?
Volleyball, softball, softball?
Volleyball or baseball?
You are healthier than us clearly in some areas.
The reciprocal part is we are much healthier than you in some areas.
Please elaborate.
I can't.
I can't say it crazy.
I know.
You're fucking crazy.
First of all, a lot of us-
You think I was bored yesterday, girl?
A lot of us are in relationships.
Wait, what did he say?
What did you just say?
You think that's what makes you healthier than me?
A lot of us are in committed relationships.
Have you heard the statistics about single childless women
being healthier than their counterparts
However men who are in relationships are healthier than their single counterparts, okay, that's true. Yes. Okay. I was gonna say quote the
She'd be ready to go in. She got all the beat to her voice.
Don't lie with me.
Don't fucking play with me.
I got the fuck out of here.
I'm out of here.
Smart.
I'm out of here.
That's a split.
I'm out of here too.
I know it's not a flip.
I'm out of here.
I'm out of it too.
You crazy?
I just feel like a lot of us are in healthy relationships
and we're happy.
No, but here's my icing on the male cake
and then I'm out of here.
There you go.
There you go.
No, I think that some of us would be able to handle
your truth about us better than you would be able to handle our truth about you.
Mmm.
I would like to see that.
So just keep that in mind as you're calling us fragile.
You used the word fragile.
But you agree.
You used the word fragile.
But you agree.
I didn't say that.
Our shit is fragile, it's all right.
But that's also what I learned out there.
I'm fragile-er than I thought.
I'm fragile-er than I thought. I'm fragile-er than I thought. I'm fragile-er than I thought.
Yo, you know what I fucking thought of in the following days after we worked out?
You know what I'm so grateful for?
Advil.
You know what I never thought of?
Yes, Advil.
Ice.
Knees.
Ankle, thumbs is one for me.
Functional knees. Knees. Knees. Yeah. Ankle, stumps, stumps is one for me.
Functional knees.
I never thought about just how many times I use my knees because I'm blessed to be healthy.
But all that sitting and bending and getting up, and I almost killed myself trying to take
a shit the other day.
I almost missed the whole toilet.
The sit down be rough. I'm still trying to take a shit the other day. I almost missed the whole toilet.
Sit down and be rough.
I almost missed completely thinking I know where shit is.
When you get up, you got rock.
Rock?
You got rock.
I had to get naked.
I had to reach for something to get up the other day.
It has been bad.
I took like an hour long bath like a bitch.
Oh my God, yeah.
Epsom.
Yes, that shit worked too.
Epsom is the truth.
I've never had that success with Epsom before.
That shit got my ankle right.
You've never been 40 before.
That's true.
40 different.
Epsom don't play with them.
That's what happened with me.
My girl tricked me into going doing some shit
I never heard of.
She see me in the bed dying and crying like a bitch.
She says, yo, I'm going to book you some cryotherapy. She got athlete kids.
Cryotherapy.
She got athlete kids. So she thinks she got to step up and some information. Thank you, baby,
for helping me out.
It's spotted around here, right?
Book it. I don't know what the fuck that is.
That's like ice bath shit?
I don't know what that is.
I don't know what it is though. I'm just telling the story. I don't know what that is. But
your girl say it can help you. She loves you. She got your best interest. Go ahead and book the shit.
A little cryotherapy. I go in there. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing, but I girl say it can help you, she loves you, she got your best interest, go ahead and book the shit.
Book it, I go in there, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing,
but I'm in this bitch, and they point me to some
little closet, and they say, alright, get down to your
boxers, and put all this stuff on.
I start looking at the little utensils,
like a Resident Evil or one of them games
where you unlock some shit.
It's gloves, ear muffs, wait, it it's gloves and then mittens for the gloves. Oh shit. It's
earmuffs, a big ass fucking thick ass scully, some eye shit. Oh shit. It's match and I'm like wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh you're like Mr. Freeze. I said wait, wait, what you doing in there?
Like oh yeah you're just gonna get in this thing. Have you done this before? We're just gonna make this negative
175 degrees stand there for about three minutes any songs you want to listen to did three minutes. That's all you do
That's the highest it's not the highest you got the only one is not the highest
Yes, if you got the remit, that's not true. I did 245. I'm about to say that's gangsta
I'm gonna say that but there was a four-minute option of area. My stepkids do four minutes Wow. Yeah twice a week
But there was a four minute option. My step kids do four minutes.
Wow.
Twice a week.
The homies do four minutes.
So I go in there.
Well, I say Chris Brown.
That's my new thing now.
The MRI people are like, what do you want to hear?
Chris Brown.
What do you want to hear?
You got a song you want to hear?
Throw on some Chris Brown.
So I get in there.
That shit fog right up.
Now you can't see shit.
I'm in there freezing talking about the fucking robot
Baby that was the slowest to 45
We take time for granted. Yeah, we do.
Three minutes is some shit now if you're doing some shit.
But I did it.
I got out of there.
I want to thank you guys for coming out.
I'm glad everybody came out today.
That was fun.
That was fun.
Even with the injury, it was fun.
Yeah, that shit was fire.
Like I'm mad I got fucked up.
Cause I'm like, yo, we can do this every two weeks.
Every two weeks.
Shout out to the Hebrew Globetrotters.
My man was in the building.
Know what I'm saying?
Shout out to Buck, D-D, Dirk man that was in the building. Know what I'm saying, Buckethead.
Shout out to Buck, D-D, Dirk.
Thanks for taking it easy on us, Buck.
My guy, yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you, Buck.
It was definitely taking it easy on us.
It was a great time.
Buck has been Jersey City All-American athlete
for 25 years now. Forever.
25 years now, yeah.
And you know what I realized?
That Mark is a man, even though I feel like he panders,
he's a man's man, right?
Cause when his wife came in the building,
that nigga turned to Super Saiyan.
He made sure, I said, oh look at Mark,
I watch him carefully.
Super what?
Super Saiyan.
Meaning it's a power up.
Super Saiyan is Dragon Ball Z, like Goku powered up,
and you just powered up, but I'm watching you.
Nah, he was dead from the first play.
Nah, nah. I seen, I'm telling you. All was there from the first play. Yeah. No, no.
I see it. I'm telling you.
All right. Let me get my shit off.
Let me get my shit off, man.
I know you want to save him, white man.
Listen.
Sorry. I'm sorry.
I just saw Mark when I when I watched because Mark was,
you know, shooting, but he just to me, he went harder.
He said, I'm not going to look like a chump in front of my
in front of my lady and she was supporting him.
And that's how I play anyway.
I was talking to Corey from the first. talking shit to Corey from the first play.
He was talking shit from the first play.
No, fuck that.
If he don't call foul, he don't get the ball.
I'm like, okay.
It's real now.
Cause Imani gave Joe a foul.
He's like, yo, he ain't call.
He don't get no ball.
Fuck that.
Imani really tried to hurt Joe.
Nah, Imani and Joe was going at it.
I don't know what-
That was my favorite thing to watch.
I don't know what was up with the two niggas.
That suspension.
That suspension.
That's what he did.
He was, Joe like,
I'm gonna pay you back.
Joe like, he's trying to hurt me.
He came back.
No, Imani really, you right.
Imani got some type of anger pent up
about something that I don't know about.
He tried to hurt me.
He brought brass knuckles.
That nigga one play landed on my foot like on purpose.
I felt like I was playing against that little dirty white boy
that's on Phoenix now from Duke.
Grayson Allen.
I felt like I was playing Puerto Rican Grayson Allen.
He tried to end me out there.
God damn it.
I was like, yo, you want to switch?
He was like, no, I will not switch. He was like, no, I will not switch.
I was like, oh.
I had to switch out with him at some point.
He was, Joe was giving him buckets all day.
Yeah, after the fifth bucket, I was like, hey, let's switch.
He was like, no, then you switch.
Then back to that pride, back to that fragile ego.
Yo, that's another thing.
That is one of the moments where your ego has to be
like tested on the, when your teammate look at you
and be like, yo, you your teammate look at you and be like
Yo
You over there getting cooked
You gotta switch you gotta switch I
Was having going on let no five points. You know not letting you switch five I was but I At the point where I asked him to switch, I said, switch, I'll take him.
He was like, no, I got him.
And y'all were like, no, you don't.
Wait, you had five?
It was like, you don't.
I was one to 11.
You really don't.
Nigga, he had eight.
Joe had eight points.
Yes.
He had eight or nine points.
Joe's MVP.
Seven of them were on the R&B singer.
Oh, no.
No, y'all not gonna do that.
No, I mean.
Let E, wait for E to get here.
I'm gonna be here for Patreon.
That's how I'm saving my...
No.
No, it was so much.
We all, you know, it was a lot of fun.
We were horrible, but it was so much fun.
Yeah, it was fun.
I can't wait till the video comes out
so people can roast us.
They gonna cook us.
Oh my Lord.
What?
As they should.
I'm not watching that.
But I appreciate it.
I'm gonna treat myself better.
Word.
I wanted to ride the Peloton in the morning
with the fucked up Achilles.
I tried to work out.
Yeah, that's great.
It was bad, but it was terrible.
Yeah, I'm gonna treat myself better.
I text a trainer.
Go, all right, it's time.
Are we gonna commit to doing this once a quarter,
once a month, once every other month?
I'm definitely doing this once a month.
We'll play better if we play more.
I told you.
The more you play,
you'll start getting your everything back. You'll start to get your coordination back. Why don't care if we play more, the more you play, you'll start getting your everything back.
You'll start to get your coordination back.
Why don't we do different activities
that encourage more mobility and different.
I'm down for some volleyball.
Volleyball, pickleball.
What the fuck is pickleball?
It's like badminton with a ball.
Tennis for old people.
If we do volleyball, I'm wearing MCM
or pumps and the bump shit. Hahaha! Indoor, indoor!
Where's Pino's with the indoor clothes?
That's crazy.
I'm telling you how I'm on it if we do a volleyball.
Hey!
Wearing Spanx.
Oh man.
I'm down for some bowling.
Bowling would be fun.
Bowling.
That's easy.
I'm down.
Laser tag.
I don't know if this. Bowling would be fun. Bowling. That's easy.
I'm down.
Laser tag.
I don't know if this is a skydiving bunch.
I did that already.
All right, jumping at a shape.
Paintball?
I'm not so mad at paintball.
I've never been a paintball guy.
I love paintball.
Why don't you pick the activities
so you would be included?
Why don't you pick the activities?
These are the ones I can definitely do.
Paintball, volleyball.
Niggas.
Which paintball? The one in PA? The one with the, I can definitely do. Paintball, volleyball. Niggas. Which paintball, the one in PA?
Where we're at, like outside?
Yeah, put us in the forest?
Yes.
Oh, I'm gotta do that.
Yes.
I don't do that indoor shit.
You gotta be outdoor.
Gotcha.
My man, I just got paintball standards, my bad.
Yeah, it's his level.
Yo, once you play outdoor paintball,
you don't wanna do that indoor shit.
You got the gun?
Oh, okay.
You got the gun? You got the gun?
I used this shit.
My man and them had the gun,
them shits was three and four hundred dollars,
we're all like, yo my nigga,
once you play tactical, it's like,
I'm never gonna do this other shit.
You don't want to play inside anymore.
And I told y'all that somebody hit my mom
about an escape room in New Rochelle.
You already know.
I haven't done that in a minute.
Escape rooms was our shit, so I'm always.
I'm always in on poor escape rooms.
I'll follow up on that.
That might be a good turn.
Ball's an easy one, though.
We should definitely do that.
Pool, pool might be funny.
Pool, I wouldn't be mad at like a whole little like
bar, bar, bar games.
Darts, pool, yeah.
Get that ax throwin'.
Ax throwing, yeah.
I've never done that, but. I can shoot pool, I don't ever throw no ax. Axe throwing, yeah. I've never done that.
I can shoot pool, I don't ever throw no axe.
I've never done that.
I've never done that.
I can't shoot pool.
And I'm trash in pool.
I'm trash.
We really sound old.
We have officially, like, that whole 10 year anniversary,
we sound old as hell.
Even though all the games y'all playing,
last time, many, many, 15 years ago,
how long that was was when I when I
decided to leave my poker nose room and go to the lodge the the central meeting
area the game center I killed all them little white boys that was in there
they get you crazy darts and well darts darts air hockey what else they had in
their ping pong 12 old rich white boys.
You nice in Ping Pong?
No, but I was better than them.
Yo, bring the kickball back.
Yo, after Saturday, I'm not saying I'm nice and nothing.
Nothing.
Nothing.
I don't think I'm nice and nothing no more.
You gotta reevaluate.
You can't have your 1996, 2006 mind,
cause your body still think it's that,
like my body still thinks it's 96.
For like bursts of speed and then it's over.
Then you be like, nigga, you can't play no more.
Like you, you, you.
I could have killed Mark ass.
His little fast ass was zoomed to a spot
because he fascinated by it and then just be there.
Yeah.
And then he goes, nigga, shoot the ball.
He's zooming around and then.
Everybody confidence was fucked up.
Nobody was shooting.
Oh, I was like, I was scared to shoot it.
Nobody was shooting.
I bricked the cars again.
I'm gonna try and just pass.
I'm gonna beat my man and pass the ball.
That's what we were all trying to do.
Yeah, yeah.
Yo, game 11 used to go a lot faster.
That shit took an hour to wait.
Way faster.
Game 11 used to be quick,
but not so much when can't nobody score.
Yeah.
My man was right under the basket with it.
Who? You.
Everybody.
I'm just talking about the dog.
Every video I saw.
Lay up after lay up after lay up.
Niggas doing that shit over the backboard.
I was like, yo, this is terrible.
All right, y'all keep going.
I'm going to sign us up at the senior citizen service.
Y'all keep it up. I'm going to sign y'all up. All right, we'all keep going. I'ma sign us up at the senior citizen service. Y'all keep it up.
I'ma sign y'all up.
All right, we ready to work?
We ready to go?
We ready to go?
We ready to go?
Let's go.
Okay, let's fucking go.
10, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one.
One
Mic check, one two one-2 rest in peace Angie Stone
Shout to wherever you might be listening from Real niggas all over the world
Always for the ladies, always for the ladies, hit go
Some old story back again
She's not a lover, she's just, I, I, up right now, 40 and up
Ayy All my lover hang up, call again
What in the world is happening?
Shout out to all the kids out there
All the college niggas listening
But don't yell at me
All the high schoolers, all the champs all over the world
Isn't it ironic
All you gonna do is smoke tonic
Oh, and you forgot when you were young
I can't leave, I can't sleep anymore
Waiting for love to walk through the door
I wish I didn't miss you anymore
All right, what we start with, what we start with here? Y'all figure it out.
Y'all got a birds and a bridge to figure it out.
Hey.
Hey.
All New York City, all New York.
Big charity, big charity. I can't see you anymore, waiting for love to walk through the door
I wish I didn't miss you anymore, I wish I didn't miss you anymore
I wish I didn't miss you anymore, I wish I didn't sleep anymore Waiting for love to walk through the door
I wish I didn't miss you anymore
I can't sleep, I can't sleep anymore
Waiting for love to walk through the door
I wish I didn't miss you anymore Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Alright, what episode is this? 805. Welcome to episode 805 of the Joe Button podcast,
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Yeah.
I'm your humble gracious, grateful, happy to be here,
fully dressed host, Joe Button here
with some really amazing people to my right.
You know the vibes, big, informalist,
afford is in the building.
Queens flippers in the building.
Queens get the money.
King Wawa, big issues in the building
and his walking boot.
Wheels, I don't know if your wheels anymore with that
I told me they ain't giving that little bullshit
Blue little sandal
Walking boot that they be giving you out the little glass
Container thing of my jiggy. You got that first. You got good coverage. That's that. You ain't got the soft little bullshit, K.
You got good insurance.
You got good insurance.
Yeah, no, it ain't matter.
You on your wife's shit?
Oh, man.
High five.
High five.
High five.
Big freeze, the freeze is, ice is in the building.
Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building.
Elmira's finest parks is here.
Paul is here, Corey is here,
Erickson is here,
Keeb and Ian are here,
Savon and Chan are here by remote last,
but certainly not least,
each and every one of you guys are here.
You've heard about our weekend.
I don't know, I didn't do shit.
That was the weekend.
That was it.
That was the weekend.
Well, I went on, the fight was after that.
That's right, I did go out to dinner on Sunday night.
I did go out to dinner and I felt every minute of that that I'm talking about getting out the car getting into the car
I said, oh, yeah, we went to some steakhouse in Montclair. That shit was like I man
I couldn't pick up the floor. My eyes was hurt. Everything was hurt
Your wife know just how much pain your body was in or did you try to tough it out?
Um, I got a pretty hot pain threshold because I'm always getting injured from shit.
You know what I mean?
And so she heard me say that we might try this again.
That picture I sent you of us on the ground,
she took that picture.
She didn't send that to commemorate it.
She was like, stop, nigga, stop.
She was like, this is what you look like.
Whenever y'all think about doing this shit again,
look at this picture.
You're right, that's right.
Let's just be a go-to.
Yeah, exactly. I ain't gonna listen to it just being a go-to. Yeah, exactly.
I ain't gonna listen, no, we ain't gonna listen.
Yeah, I didn't do shit.
I stayed in bed.
I stayed in bed, I didn't go nowhere.
This might be the first weekend ever
where I just didn't move and was baby free
and girlfriend free. I slept for 12 hours sober
after that.
That's wild.
That Epsom salt bath will do that to you too.
Lay you out.
I shot down Orlando for my niece's birthday party.
Shout out to baby Kylie.
You're good.
I just love kids, man.
I just learned that I got to learn how to swim, yo.
It really hit me.
My daughter is, daddy, let's go.
She take off and I'm rolling with her.
Come on, all right, come on. Then you get to that little five feet
and your toes start to brush up against you five six.
Nigga.
So you only be like right there.
And then five six.
You start realizing like, all right, if she gone,
I'm like, yo dog, come back brother.
So that's my plan.
I know how to keep saying it.
I'm going to learn how to swim.
Fuck this.
If you want to take a group class,
cause I've tried to learn handsome like four times.
I did it mad times. You can't be that surprised a little surprised. Hey, that's racist
How many y'all can swim show my hands who can swim
I'm just gonna make a draw a melon in really so immigrants can swim
A lot of Jamaicans lot of with any
Islanders I know people who swim.
Black Americans.
I was born in, nigga.
Well, you not ADOS.
Nigga, we swim.
I'm not ADOS, but I was born in.
We don't swim.
Yeah.
They threw me back in, like six months.
I joined a baby school for swimming.
Yep.
Your mom did that?
Mm?
Yeah.
I almost drowned twice, so that's how I learned to swim.
Oh, that's the other way.
Okay.
If somebody had the right idea.
Yeah. Yeah. It's not fair somebody had the right idea. Yeah.
It's not fair.
I'm not.
Yeah.
If somebody could have just followed through.
I almost drowned at Duns River Fall in Jamaica.
Then I almost drowned in New Jersey
at my cousin's pool when I was younger.
Duns River?
Like the waterfall thing?
I almost drowned.
Who threw you in that?
Alligator Palm.
One of them shits I almost drowned.
Almost drowned and they helped me.
Three times I almost drowned.
That's a good plan. I almost drowned I drowned, almost drowned in Help Me. Three times I almost drowned.
I almost drowned in it, I almost drowned in Montego Bay,
and then I almost drowned in New Brunswick.
That's a lot of times.
Yeah, the lady jumped in and helped me,
and I was panicking, she's like,
yo, calm down, cause I was pulling her down.
Oh, shit.
And then I had to learn, I just learned how to swim.
Each time, were they able to get all of the infested water
from out of your
They back you know, it was scary but you can't do it in your ear I learned how to swim by default
Mmm, and then I'm down. Let's do it. I know I know
You don't know you don't want to so I told him, I said, Joe, you should go try the Larder Swim. I have to. As an adult, it's dope.
I have to. And I took, you took your daughter to Larder Swim?
Yes. How'd that happen?
Damn if I know.
Because kids are like dogs.
No, I took my daughter to Larder.
I took my daughter to Larder, but she was a little too small.
I took her when she was like six, eight months.
That's where you should start. The one she had to do.
My daughter on her back doing all this shit.
My daughter's a lifeguard.
I'm like, all right.
I took my daughter to swim lessons.
What?
From age six months to about 12.
She took swim lessons, she's a lifeguard,
she could do all that.
I tried to do the lessons, it didn't work.
Do you panic when you get in the water?
Do you panic?
He's 5'6", too though.
I'm 5'10".
You know what I mean?
That shit only coming like right here.
Why you... You know what?
Yo, you good?
Yeah, I'm straight.
I can step on your foot, dude.
That's what I'm saying.
Yo, my nigga.
Yo, my nigga.
That is cool.
You can't swim, right?
Yeah, I can swim.
I can't tread and I can't float like that.
That's what I thought was so... How can you swim and not tread?
I don't get that.
When I jump off the diving... I could jump off the 30 foot joint.
Like in Maplewood, they got the high joint.
30 foot.
When you get in the water,
I figure what?
Yo, don't play that, bro.
Don't play family.
Stop.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news,
but it's been about 45 minutes of...
We old.
Yeah.
Yeah.
At some point, we do have to come to work and fans speak about things.
Can I say something about Angie Stone?
Sure, go ahead.
Angie Stone, first of all, rest in peace, Angie Stone.
She's one of those people who...
Oh, wait, hold on.
You're about to be serious.
At least let the hook go. Oh, sorry. Alright, hold on.
Come on.
Alright, that's all I need here.
Stop, please.
Alright.
Alright, back to the legend.
Yeah, legendary Angie Stone, neo soul legend, all that. I didn't know her well, but I knew
her well enough. You know, I knew her to speak, interviewed a bunch of times,
real good people.
One of the few people that when they die,
everybody has good things to say and doesn't have to lie
or doesn't have to remain silent.
But the thing that I want to say about Angie Stone,
I think is important, is that a lot of people
only think about her as a neo soul goddess.
And they forget that she is a hip hop pioneer
as much as, you you know No Rain in
this Cloud and all the songs that came out when she made that that album in 99
which is great she's part of Sequence you know and Sequence you know when hip
hop is really moving when we move from disco to hip-hop and you start to hear
hip-hop as a party sound she's the voice of that she's the soundtrack heard and
the other two sisters are the voice of that. Sequence is a hip-hop pioneering
group they were the second act sign at Sugarhill Records. They were major hip hop act and when we do the hip hop commemorations in the
50th anniversary sometimes we leave out Angie Stone and we leave out or Angie B at the time and
we leave out sequence. I'm just saying as we remember her let's really write her in the history
and not just in the R&B that's it. Got you. I agree that was very well said. Very well spoken.
I agree that was very well said. Very well spoken right now.
I'm good at the talking job.
That's why you command the big bucks.
I command them.
Anybody sprinkle some silence out there for two seconds.
You gonna let him do that?
What?
You gonna let Mark smoke your fucking boots? On the air? That was your topic, girl.
True, true.
But Mark came in late.
He brought the steam train back.
Yo, when I get to the ANG, I'm gonna take it to the losses.
And how I survived my accident.
And y'all put a stop to that because you did not want to set out the pod.
Turn up, man. You didn't want to set out the pot.
You did want to set out the pot.
I don't think Mark was here when we had a discussion about, you know, the fact that when a loss like this happens,
you could say that this was before her time, this was a tragic accident,
versus somebody that we're aware has like a long-running, you know, health issue,
and then they end up passing away. So the conversation I was trying to see
if the guys wanted to talk about is the process of loss
when it's something like that.
And then especially where she was going,
she's on her way to do something,
to sing the national anthem.
And then that was just really strange
how the people at the game handled it,
was like announcing it.
Like, Oh, well, yeah.
Like our halftime.
I have a problem with that.
I have a huge problem.
I have a big problem with if a artist is about to perform somewhere, you're
announcing to that audience, Hey y'all, the act just died.
Yes.
Yes.
Wow.
I think that that's absolutely nuts.
I don't know that everybody knows that that's nuts.
Maybe they didn't know a better way to handle that.
But I think that was totally the wrong way to handle it.
If I was a ticket goer, I would be distraught.
I would be asking to see somebody.
Yeah.
Irie.
No, no.
I heard the announcement.
It was, she was performing at halftime.
The gentleman walked out.
He let the crowd know, hey, can I get a moment, can everybody stop?
And everybody got quiet, and he was like,
we were supposed to have the legend,
Angie Stone perform, a couple people started clapping.
And he said, unfortunately, she passed away
in an accident car, and we're here.
So everybody was like, like what?
Like you can hear her.
You don't get an idea.
No.
I feel like it would suck the air right out of the room.
You don't get an idea.
And then he asked for a moment of silence.
Everybody gave the moment of silence,
and then they, you know, they clapped and everything
and went on.
But I personally, I'm not mad at announcing,
hey listen, something just happened,
and this is why the person is not gonna be here.
Don't nobody have a problem with you announcing
something just happened.
But not nothing.
You came out there and said,
She passed away.
She passed.
We don't have no beef with something just happened.
Oh my God, an emergency, unfortunate,
and it's not your place to get out there
and tell these fans that the act has perished.
I'm not your place.
It's also the age of social media.
I was just getting ready to say,
you better read it on your phone. No, no, what I'm saying is if I'm in the stands and I tweet, oh my God, they just said Angie
Stone died.
Now Angie's son or Angie's aunt or Angie's brother who doesn't know they're dead yet
has to read that on Twitter.
Well, I don't know if this occurred, if that person got their information.
I don't know if they got it before social media.
They could have got it from there as a TMZ post go out.
Oh, that's fair.
That's possible. And then they announce it to the crowd because the news is already out there.
I don't want to just put that on there.
The local authorities, the local authorities not going to come to the CIAA
tournament and be like, yo.
I thought what her, I thought her team called. That's what I assumed.
But either way, to the other point, because I think that's a great point.
You're right. I pulled that one back.
But the idea of, yo, you just suck the air out of this room.
Everybody in this room is now devastated to hear it.
They hear some people came there just to hear it and just don't.
I believe that.
Yeah, that's crazy to find out that she's just dead.
I don't think you do that.
I just don't think you do that to people.
I don't know what the proper protocol is.
I'm not pretending to know.
You should not put people in that spot.
Shit, when we was on the road, when we found out,
Nipsey died.
No, what's the dude, the white dude?
Mac Miller?
No, Paul Walker.
Y'all was on tour.
Paul Walker?
No, no, DJ AM.
Yeah, DJ AM.
And DJ AM.
And y'all was with his man.
Travis.
Travis and him.
Yeah, I mean that's a little different
because we just happened to be there for a personal call
where we found something out.
When Nipsey died, we was on our way to a stage.
Oh wow.
And it spread out.
And had to perform and the news had just broke.
And we were in Cali.
We were in Cali.
The entire building wasn't really there.
Like the whole place was elsewhere.
There was an energy in the room
that made it a difficult night for everybody.
I think we said a prayer at the end of some shit.
Like it was tough.
So I just don't think you put that feeling in people
that came to a show for a show.
Let them find out, just say,
oh, we've had an emergency, there's someone for you.
As a performer, I don't agree with it.
Maybe as a consumer, you want to know that.
As a performer, I don't agree with that at all.
And also like with social media,
a lot of times reports go out
prematurely where the person might not have passed away and we've seen that
happen before where before the family has a chance to make their statement
people are just like oh so-and-so died and it's just like no they're still on
life support but it's not for us to have a discussion about so I would be really
afraid to be the one that announces this to a whole crowd of people before it is,
you know, without making sure that the confirmation is really actually the
confirmation. Like I would err on the side of caution and say, we had a
performer, there was an emergency, we apologize and that's really, and leave it at that.
Yeah, we just, we don't know the timing of when they got that information.
Timing matters.
Because when it was officially out, they could they got that information. Timing matters.
Because when it was officially out, they could have got it then.
And then I'm not mad at that because nine times out of ten, most of y'all are going
to know anyway.
The last piece of this for me is also people who were tweeting just wild shit.
People were tweeting like the truck itself.
They were tweeting the van that got flipped over.
Because she was the only person to pass, too. She was the only one to pass. She was the only one to pass. They were tweeting the van that got flipped over.
She was the only person to pass too.
She was the only one to pass.
She was the only one to pass.
And they were showing these graphic images
and y'all out there, people are human beings.
Somebody loves them.
And if you're famous or not, it doesn't matter.
Nobody wants to go on Twitter and see the person they love
dead on their timeline or the van crushed on their timeline.
Have some decency.
Post a still picture.
Unfortunately.
You're living in yesteryear.
Yeah, I know, I know.
You're living in yesteryear, buddy.
And everybody most, a lot today are so decent
since the times to that shit.
Yeah.
Where they could look right at that image and scroll.
As horrible as the image was,
that was one of the nicer images
as it relates to our entertainers passing.
That's true.
That's sad.
It was like the aftermath.
I didn't see the actual accident.
There's a video going around right now.
That's the actual accident?
No, not of that.
Of someone else that I only want to talk about.
Oh my god.
No, no, no, no, no.
And the video keeps.
I've been trying to avoid it.
I'm not even going on social media, bro.
That story ended up itself.
Exactly.
And I'm not familiar with the young man, Rest In Peace.
And his five year old daughter.
The young rapper and his five year old daughter,
this is in Dallas.
Texas.
I want to say that this is in Dallas.
Like, oh, I can't.
Yeah, I can't even.
Are we guys' name? G. Dalasan Little Ronnie.
Little Ronnie, yeah.
Yeah, and his five-year-old daughter, Fort Worth, Texas, you know, was ambushed at a car wash.
Rest in peace.
Shit different out here.
The Angie shit reminds me of just how
vulnerable entertainers and performers are that tour and travel and
rely on that
For their income. Income. You know what I mean? Like people really put themselves in a dangerous position all day every day to entertain us
Yeah, like traveling especially in cars is like the most dangerous shit in the fucking world
and people do it for a living.
Yeah.
18 wheeler boy, god damn.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace, for sure, for sure.
The roads be scary though.
Yeah.
Like the roads are,
I don't think we at that age now.
Yeah, my nigga. And it ain't how good you drive.
Nah, cause the other, that's the other part.
The other niggas be on they phone,
swerving in and out of the lanes.
So all it takes is one, somebody not paying attention.
They teach you that you gotta drive,
when you drive you gotta drive for the other person.
Defensive driver, defensive driver. Yeah, that person as well. Depends on the driver.
Yeah, that's why I be getting mad at my driver. He'll spot the worst driver on the road and just stay right by him.
Going 20. Like yo nigga, could you get away from this fucking lunatic nigga? You don't see him?
You could tell when somebody on the road just saying
You can see it right away. Yeah. Yeah, they done fucking got the little fucking Puerto Rican Honda engine in there.
Yeah, that shit be loud as hell.
Now you got your little 20 mile per hour.
Pop, pop, pop.
Yo dog, you haven't left the block yet.
Pop, pop, pop.
Yeah, niggas that merge wrong into the fucking,
yeah, nah man, let me queue up outside.
Yeah, yeah, let's get us outta here.
I'm doin' it.
Damn, let's get us on outta there, bro.
Please.
It's playin', but I don't hear it.
You gotta turn it up.
Oh shit, yeah.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
Oh man.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
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Oh shit.
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Our prayers, thoughts and condolences to Angie Stone and family, our friends, her loved ones Girl you're looking sweet, I'm right
You're my only baby
Wish that I could love you right
In a special way
You light my mind
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The Oscars.
OK.
The Oscars.
Mel?
Yes?
Did anybody else watch it?
I watched it.
I watched it.
Well, I watched it on Hulu, and it died
right before Best Picture.
No, Best Actress.
Midway through Best Actress, right before Best Picture.
What you mean it died? Like, Hulu just went down? The feed fucking died. The feed just over. It's like, actress, right before best picture. What'd you mean it died?
Like who just went down?
The feed fucking died.
The feed just over, it's like, oh, your show's ended.
It's like, no, it hasn't.
Yeah.
Oh shit.
Yeah, it was, that was a-
I watched a nice portion of it.
Okay, all right, what'd you think?
First thing I'll say is it did not seem
like a Jesse Collins production at all.
No, I'm about to say-
So that was the number one thing that I thought.
Conan O'Brien did fabulous as a host.
He's hilarious.
He's really, really good.
I will say that as much as I championed
watching the early parts of the Grammys,
this was like that for the whole ceremony,
which is a lot.
A lot of stuff you don't care about.
Yeah, like best foreign short animated movie, like, congrats.
But, like, no, you could have put, could have tweeted that.
They could make an earlier ceremony for them too.
Very, very much so.
And get some of that stuff out of the way.
I think the Grammys is maybe too far left of not showing enough,
and Oscars is too far right of showing too much.
I love all those. Maybe it's because I make film, but like I love watching like the documentary.
I love watching the best far in this. I like every one of them. I like the best Dolly Grip.
Like all that shit. I want every award show. Every single one.
Yeah. Even the pre-show was long. Like the red carpet show?
They show you on six different stages
on the carpet.
So they were so bad that they had to have on the side
three separate screens to show when you walk in,
you over there on the carpet, you over there on the carpet
and then you come up on the main screen.
It's like, yo, my nigga.
We get it.
Like, yo, we get it, fam.
We got you.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's like, oh, she was over there.
They on this screen.
It's like, yo, dog, we got it, fam.
I'm cool.
So, eh, anybody clean up?
There's a film called Anora that really, it swept.
And it was a very, very, very indie film
that a lot of people have never watched before,
had never even fucking heard of.
And it won all the major categories,
like best picture, best director,
I think it was a screenplay, editing that they won, yeah and no sorry it wasn't it
wasn't screenplay it was a best actress which was huge because everybody favored Demi Moore
to win for this movie called The Substance.
Did you see it?
No, not yet.
Okay.
The Substance and the Brutalists are on my list.
Yeah, I watched.
Good dream, Brody's.
Let me tell you something.
Good fucking luck.
I will never watch The Brutalist.
It's three and a half hours fucking long.
It's like watching baby spit.
We're healthier in that area than you.
Good for you.
Okay?
You tell me how it is.
I have a feeling you're gonna fall asleep
at least five times during this movie.
Mark my words.
Not if it's good.
I'm just saying, I'd decide and watch
The Avengers fucking Infinity War.
I'm in game.
Okay, all right.
I watch Lord of the Rings, I watch Twilight.
That is it, that's captivating shit.
Listen, y'all just watch it.
Listen, the brutalist is about the architect, dude.
Why is that not captivating? Okay, listen. Tell us, man. Well, we'll check it out. Y'all just check it out then come back and we'll talk about it. It's about the architect, dude. Why is that not captivating?
OK, listen.
Tell us.
Well, we'll check it out.
I'll check it out.
Y'all just check it out.
I'm going to watch it.
Because I like shit like that.
I don't know what it's about.
That's the hard part for me.
It's about an immigrant architect
who built a whole bunch of shit, and then the wealthy fucking
people start treating him like shit
and took all his shit and stole his shit.
That's your balance.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You'll watch the hell out of that.
I know, I expected it to be slow, drawn out, plot, story.
You shouldn't be.
Somebody built it up and then they came and stole it, bro.
That's one of the movies where I'm waiting for my girl to leave so I can get into things
that I like.
Yeah, but listen.
Oppenheimer was long.
No, I know.
There's definitely movies that I can watch that, but listen. Oppenheimer was long. No, I know.
There's definitely movies that I can watch that are really lengthy pictures.
I really liked Oppenheimer.
Another really, really long movie that I completely love is There Will Be Blood, which was another
one that kind of swept the amazing movie.
You don't stick around when such shit is long, though.
No, There Will Be Blood was three and a half hours.
Outstanding!
I'm gonna make y'all motherfuckers eat your words, okay? Hey!
She got Tiana back.
Back to the fucking Oscars.
Okay, y'all should watch The Substance.
It's a very, very wild movie.
It looks great, too.
It's really really really good
I'm gonna watch it man. I wanna see the Ennore shit, that's interesting. It's about sex workers right?
It is it's basically about this young girl she's a she's a sex worker in
Brighton Beach and she ends up meeting the son of an oligarch. You know her Paul?
And she they end up getting married and then the family comes down to meet her
to try to get this annulled because I will they will be damned if their son marries a prostitute.
The father hit it before?
No, he didn't, he was in Russia.
But there's a hit man involved,
there's all kinds of shit going on.
Oh yeah, I just read the, yeah this shit's on alright.
I'm watching this.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, good looks.
Yeah, but The Substance for me was really, really,
I really loved that movie because you would never think
Demi Moore would actually do a movie like this and
Basically what it is it's like this this aging starlet she decides that you know she
She gets introduced to this concept of kind of splitting yourself in half And you're like there's a younger version of you, but you guys have to share time. I thought it was about ozempic
It was not about it was about us whooping
Pretty much, pretty much. But anyways, so the young Anjanu,
who was the lead in Anora,
she actually took the award for best actress.
And a lot of people thought Demi had it locked.
So that was kind of surprising.
Also, what was kind of disappointing
was the tribute to Quincy Jones.
Like, it was weird.
That's why I say this was not a Jesse Collins production
because the tribute to Quincy Jones
would have been so much better.
And he, you know, they had Oprah and Whoopi Goldberg
come out and talk about it.
Queen Latifah.
And then Queen Latifah sang, you know,
the song from The Wiz.
Down the Road.
Down the Road.
And I was like, out of all Quincy Jones productions,
that's the song you choose?
Yeah, because it's tied in with the movies.
I mean, it's tied in with Wicked.
Sure, I get it.
And it's still the Oscars, girl.
No.
Who they gonna have somebody?
Listen, you could tell when Jesse Collins produced
the Oscars, it looked and felt like it.
You know what I'm saying?
And that is a huge compliment.
This was very, I don't want to say watered down,
but it just was very.
It's a different W word.
White.
It was white.
It was white.
It was white.
It was white.
It was white.
When can we get to the kiss?
Okay, so.
Let's get to the fucking kiss.
Okay, so Adrian Brody ends up winning for best actor
for The Brutalist.
Fast forward 20 something years.
Rewind.
Sorry, rewind.
Sorry, rewind 20 years ago when he won best actor for The Pianist.
And Halle Berry was on the stage and she was the one who was presenting him with the award.
He got up on the stage and literally swooped her up in this huge unplanned kiss that she was not prepared for and she played it off
really well. So fast forward 20-something years, he's won and she decides to
recreate the moment. It turns to his wife. Walked up to his wife and was like, yo, you know I gotta do this.
He parted me real quick, I'm just paying back. And check this out, he did that in front of his wife. Walked up to his wife and was like, yo, pardon me. You know I gotta do this. Can you pardon me real quick? I'ma just pay him back.
And check this out, he did that in front of her husband.
So there's that.
She seems to be in love.
It's a little different, but.
It's different.
Is it though?
Here's the difference, here's the difference.
Please tell me how it's different.
Her husband was like, where you are, right?
I was about to say, her husband wasn't right there.
Right, I'm sorry, the wife was right there.
Oh, he was right there.
But she turned to him and said,
you know I gotta do this right.
And didn't really wait for a yes.
Okay, well so he didn't ask for permission and she did.
So that is a difference.
I'm not saying one is better or worse,
I'm just saying they're different.
Because I think it's a little,
like I couldn't walk up,
like on stage you could get caught up in the moment.
But grabbing somebody.
On a carpet.
On a carpet.
Pre-plan.
Pre-plan in front of their spouse to me is a tougher sell.
I wouldn't do either.
I think you should kiss people with consent.
She would have got slid.
That's what I was thinking was like.
I don't know what y'all talking about.
My girl was watching.
She was like, that would have been her ass.
We would have fucked that whole carpet up.
What would you have done now?
Adrian Brody's pimp hand was a little stronger I think.
How Georgina Chapman handled it.
She came up and took the gum from him. That is not what he just asked you. He didn't ask you nothing about Georgina Chapman handled it? She came up and took the gum from him.
That is not what he just asked you.
He didn't ask you nothing about Georgina.
That was his woman.
He didn't ask.
Are you asking?
I'm saying that if you're on the carpet
with your dude who happens to be an actor, hypothetically,
old girl walks over, grips him up,
and gives him a kiss, turns to you,
you know I'm gonna do this right,
gives him a kiss, how do you react?
She would have got slid.
Thank you.
Thank you.
There we go, thank you.
Thank you.
She would've got slid.
Now, Beyonce the interaction,
she went up to stage to take his gum in her bare hand,
like she's with it, she's with the shits.
Adrienne's got that shit a lot.
No, no, no, let's actually say it in a different way.
He threw his gum at her.
That's true.
He could've fucking swallowed it. He really could've. He could've done a bad different shit. He threw his gum at her. That's true. He could've fucking swallowed it.
He really could've.
He could've done a lot of different things
and then he got up there and he gave like a six minute
fucking acceptance speech,
told them to shut the fuck up
when they started to play the music.
And then, oh, I mean, I really like Adrian Brody
as an actor, but that was.
He's the man.
I think all this shit sounds like he's the man.
That's fly shit. Yeah, no, he's the man I think all this shit sounds like he's the man that's flashing
hold it
don't and I want it back
don't throw it away
does Holly have a book coming out or something?
no
lube
I was wondering the same thing
why won't
I just gonna say it bro
I don't want it to
the mirrors look amazing.
She looked phenomenal.
She looked phenomenal.
She's beautiful.
She's a beautiful woman.
I mean, that been my whole life.
That ain't, that ain't nothing.
That's nothing new.
That ain't new.
Yeah.
Like she should sit down now.
She's on a press run.
For the lube.
For what?
For the lube.
For the lube's gonna sell itself?
She has, she has a company called Respon.
Okay.
And it's about, it's basically about health and wellness,
but now she's added a component to it
for women's sexual health and wellness.
Man, we skipping the shit.
When these chicks turn 50, 51, 52, something clicks.
Something click.
And they don't know that we can see it.
What do you mean, what's the click? I follow them know that we could see it. What do you mean?
What's the click?
I follow them.
I follow them.
Go ahead.
Use your words.
Expounder.
I'm like, I'm doing it.
Pussy.
Yeah.
Yeah, that pussy get to purring differently.
Yes.
And because you, yeah.
That shit like a, it's like a wounded cat.
And because you've aged and experienced and you've lived
so you know people and you just have a different view
than you did in your 30s and 40s, I don't wanna,
it's not, what's the word I'm looking for?
There's a word that I'm looking for that I guess.
You give less fucks.
That ain't what you're saying.
You ran out of fucks to give.
That ain't what he's saying.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
You give less fucks.
There's a way to act.
You say give more fucks, baby.
There's a way to act out of...
There's a way to act out of...
There's a way to act out of...
There's a way to act out of...
There's a way to act out of...
There's a way to act out of...
There's a way to act out of...
There's a way to act out of...
There's a way to act out of...
There's a way to act out of...
There's a way to act out of... There's a way to act out of... There's a way to act out of... There's a way to act out of... There's a way should act a certain way at a certain age. No, it's true. And it's a Hollywood clique of them.
Yeah, it is.
And I'm no longer talking about Holly.
I don't know her personally to be able to speak about her.
So who's in the clique?
But she has that baby powder on her.
I agree.
Like there's a few people that went to Sephora and picked that up.
Duh.
I'm going to do some fucking, and a lot of it, eyeliner.
I don't care who it is. Who else is in the clique? I'm gonna do some fucking, and a lot of it, eyeliner.
I don't care who it is, I don't care if that guy's married, I don't care if that guy's in a long-term relationship,
I'm beautiful, and because I'm beautiful,
they at my beck and call, and I'm on it.
It's a whole...
This still sounds like salute to Adrian Brody to me.
It is.
You know, listen, he's the flop.
He's the man.
He called it.
Okay, I'm interested to know who's in this clique
that you described.
I would never, man.
I was about to say, if you take that Poisonette-
Man, I would never.
I wouldn't even let you.
Yeah, come on, what's wrong with it?
I can aim with a seven over, though.
All right, all right, you just tell me off camera,
it's fine.
Think more of us. Would you guys on, what's wrong with it? I can aim a good seven over now. All right, all right, you just tell me off camera, it's fine. Think more of us up here.
Did you guys take anything from any of the performances?
Doja Cat Killed.
Doja, yeah, I was about to say.
She's made that shit.
She got it all.
That chick, Rae, is phenomenal.
But I went and listened to her albums.
They are using her way wrong.
Which I mean.
Her voice is incredible.
Yes.
And then her albums are like some dance pop shit.
Yeah.
Is it your fault?
It's almost like, you know what it's like,
A Star is Born with Lady Gaga.
Like how she comes out singing with these kind of,
you know, shallow and shit like that.
And then when the industry gets their hands on her,
they turn her into an R&B artist
with all the fucking weird wigs and shit like that.
It's Christina Aguilera, B.
No, it's Pink.
In the early stages.
No, what it is is Pink.
Pink started as R&B.
Yeah, I remember them days. And then that shit was whack as as fuck and then she comes out being who she really actually is and that's why she's been a
Huge success because she's authentic now. Did we find out why Ariana Grande is Benjamin Button like why she's like
infantizing I
Don't know like why does she look six now? I want to say nothing cuz they said she might have
Issues her Cynthia body that intro. They did. I like their camaraderie too. Fun to watch.
You could tell like it was genuine. Like Ariana Grande kissed her hand and was holding,
like you know what I mean? It wasn't some studio shit but I guess you've been working on a major
motion picture with somebody. You mightall might have built that up.
It ain't a show on that stage.
No, no, no, no, I'm saying you're absolutely right
in what you're saying.
They really do seem to like each other.
You can be on a picture with somebody and fucking hate them.
And I like the way that Ariana kind of
pays reverence to her. Do your thing.
Yeah, for sure. Like, I'm her,
do your thing, and really gave her the shine.
Because Cynthia Erivo is fucking her.
No, she is, but in that white.
Yeah, the emphasis is wrong.
I was like.
It's super her.
You gotta drop.
You put my hand up with it.
You can't really put the emphasis.
You put the emphasis on the wrong syllable.
Wrong syllable, yeah.
Right, right, sorry.
You're a Switzerland canine.
You said syllable.
I hate your fucking sentence.
Emphasis.
You put the emphasis on the wrong salable.
Yeah.
Oh, that's clever.
The hell is a salable?
Sure.
A syllable, but you put the emphasis on the wrong one.
Got it. Okay.
It takes a sting out when you got to explain a joke.
I missed it.
I missed it.
Get it later. Catch it later.
Zoey Saldana won.
They on her ass.
Badly.
They on her ass is all I know. yeah, yeah, they said that she cuz she ain't black
One was the race thing and in two some people's climate because her husband was up there
You know he took her last name so some people was finding making jokes about that on on of but wait see I didn't
Miss me on the way. See, I didn't know that. Now that team missed me. Yeah, I only know her husband took her last her last name.
Yeah. And she got a lot of money.
Marco, I noticed my wife sent it to me.
The balls on this lady.
My wife sent it to me. Yeah.
And I was like, I don't know why you sent me this.
His name was Marco Parago.
Now he's Marco Saldana. Marco Parago.
OK, so she.
Oh, so they both kind of prairie names.
Yeah, he had to take the last.
He didn't sound no tougher. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey Green card go faster. I don't know, green cards go faster with Saldana. A lot of money plus snappers.
Exactly.
Might take it.
He might take it.
He might take it.
He didn't take her last name.
So why they mad at this lady?
They said she's not black.
Number one, they said that she played a black role that she's been downplaying.
To them, she's been downplaying the roles that she played.
And they feel like she, you know, because she said she was not apologizing about to
the Mexicans and certain things.
They just like, we don't like that.
What's the apology for?
This all sounds like a headache.
I'm curious, because a lot of times you'll have somebody,
I mean fucking Angelina Jolie played Cleopatra.
Nigga, Charlton has, it's been 17 black Moses's.
Thank you.
I mean white Moses's.
I know, I know, thank you.
Nigga, we thought Moses was white until a certain time.
Scarface.
I thought Moses was white until a certain time.
Madonna is a Vita. Chicken nugget. Nah, it was white until the service. Scarf is a- I thought Moses was white until the service. Madonna is a beater.
Chicken nugget.
Nah, it's not chicken nugget.
Nah, it's based on religion.
You're a badass nigga.
Wait till you hear about Jesus, man.
He's gonna fuck your head up.
I won't.
Nah, hold on.
I let you stop.
That's brass.
Cause I go back, I don't have headphones on,
I go back and listen to a lot of shit you say.
I'm listening clearly.
No, it's based off of the religion that you, you know.
Woolen hair.
I understood.
I didn't understand. She's like brass. I got that you, you know. Wollin' hair. I understood her, but I didn't understand.
She's like frass.
I got that.
That's not whitey.
I got that as an adult when I got older or as a teenager.
Okay.
No, they remixed the shit out of him.
Yeah, what? They did.
Like, Jennifer Lopez played Selena.
They was kinda tight too.
That right, exactly.
I just think that-
Well, she did a great job.
And she played homage.
So she filled in that role quite well.
She played homage to Selena.
Filled in.
But if you're gonna be mad about something,
then stay mad about the same fucking thing.
Jennifer Lopez is Puerto Rican, she played Mexican,
so what's the issue with Zoe?
But she paid homage to them.
She paid homage to Selena.
Who's saying that the other lady didn't pay homage?
She's saying I'm not gonna be apologetic
for winning a role and doing a role.
I did my job.
Yeah, what the fuck you talking about?
The beef to me ain't shouldn't be with Zoe.
And obviously she's a proud Dominican.
People say she doubled down on the Dominican part on the speech too.
Like I'm the first Dominican to win this award and hopefully there'll be others.
And it's like, you're also black, right?
Well, was that the time to make the distinction and go into the whole history of Afro Latina
and the black experience?
You have three minutes. You have three minutes.
You have three minutes.
And then, it's not that.
You have three minutes.
Wait, hold on one second here.
You have three minutes to thank everybody
in your fucking life, people who have contributed
to you getting this role, people who have contributed
to your fucking career
for the last 30 something years,
and then you have to say something profound
and shit like that that relates to your family
and your culture, you have three minutes to like.
Three minutes is a long time.
Do you know?
It's not, it's.
That was like 30 seconds what you just said.
Afro-Latina takes three seconds.
Do you know the ongoing issues
between Dominican and black people?
Yes, I am.
Even Afro-Latinas and black people,
how they say, I'm Dominican,
and they sort of exclude the black people.
This has been going on for generations.
I've had a girlfriend of mine describe herself
as a white Dominican.
I said, what the fuck is that?
Exactly.
That was the first time I'd ever heard the term before.
And a lot of us are aware of it.
A lot of us are aware of it.
When I tell you who the fuck it was.
You will be friends with a white you will I would never speak them again
Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't I a white Dominican around me. She legitimately wait
No
Her complexion is
Extremely light lighter, but she has very dark features. He had dark hair dark eyebrows dark eyes. She listened to Pac
Yes, she live in Deichmann. No dark eyes. She listen to Pac? Yes.
She live in Dykman?
No.
Just try to get-
She's a name.
Fordham?
Oh.
She's a name.
So maybe I should not use the term friend, I'll use colleague.
Because we work together.
Because every time you say the friend word.
Yeah, it's like my man's, right?
OK, no.
So anyways.
Hey!
Hey!
She letting the chopper spray today. Callback, callback, callback, callback, callback. Big man! like my mans right okay no so anyways
I understand the struggle but it's just like how do you really kind of like describe with that and look at who she's talking to. We grew up in the same neighborhood.
You grew up in the same neighborhood.
When you grow up in the same neighborhood, experience the same struggles,
you know, you see this person every day, you see these people every day.
And they say, yo, they don't identify with you.
I'm not black.
I think it's confusing.
If you don't mind me interjecting, you can do nationality versus ethnicity,
because you might go up there and say, you know, mind me interjecting. You can interject. When you do nationality versus ethnicity. Because you might go up there and say,
yo, I'm from Queens.
Would it be wrong for people to say,
but what about Haiti or Jamaica or?
And they will have the right to say that.
And here's the-
Because my history-
I did not say he from Haiti when he get up there and went.
People take that person.
I got to tech a lot,
but I don't represent my Haitian side a lot.
Like that's how people take it.
Yo, you always representing Jamaica.
You going to Jamaica, what about Haiti?
Your mother's Haitian.
So people feel it's very sensitive.
It was different when you was young too.
Man, let the lady get up there and fucking say.
What you mean it was different?
When you was young, my Haitians, just say black.
All I wanna do is say black.
Here's a good example.
Here's a good example.
So.
She gonna be in a Telem the 9 a.m. News
Course all this shit. I thought you was black for years. But also she's representing like a Spanish-speaking film
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like and also so black people shouldn't have no It's nice has nothing to do with that what it has to do with can you imagine if she just said black?
Do you can you imagine if she just said black,
can you imagine how the Dominican community would be?
Well, we didn't say just say that.
Just say Afro-Latina.
We didn't say just say that either.
That would be wrong.
Just say Afro-Latina.
Okay.
And I'm not getting all heavy on her per se,
but I understand why people feel away,
especially when these same people sometimes get black roles
and they trade on blackness when it's convenient.
Oh, like Nina Simone? No No like Zoe Saldana.
No, she played Nina Simone. She played Nina Simone. She played um, this shit with Ashton Kutcher when Bernie when Bernie Mac was her dad
she was a black girl. Yep, but she also played Nina Simone. That's what I'm saying.
Wait, is this the girl that's in Lioness? Yes. Come on, you know the damn Lioness in Dominican. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I know god damn well the Lioness in Dominican. Who's not Dominican? What are her parents? Her mother's Puerto R that say Dominican. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I know, God damn well, the lion is saying Dominican.
What are her parents?
Her mother's Puerto Rican and Dominican,
her father is Dominican.
So she's 75% Dominican.
The lion is saying Dominican, though.
So she's Dominican and Puerto Rican, right?
Yes.
So why do y'all want her to run up there
and y'all she's black again?
Because those are ethnicities.
Dominican's are black. And those are not racist. But she's pointing, I get you- I'm just kidding. Because those are ethnicities. Many kins are black.
And those are not racist.
But she's pointing- I get it.
I'm not- I don't see nothing wrong with this now.
I don't think she's wrong.
I think the people criticizing her are wrong.
Same.
Same.
Same.
I think that-
But that's based on experience, that's based on experience, man.
It's deeper than that.
I'm not disagreeing with you.
It's extremely deeper than that just to say you're wrong for representing your ethnicity.
Yeah. No, it's deeper than that. But go ahead, Mark. It's just- All I'm saying is,'m not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, No white woman in 2025. I heard a rumor. Check this shit out. Let me explain this one.
My point is they let her get certain jobs.
They let certain Latinos get certain jobs
because at that moment they identify as black, right?
And then if you identify as black to get that job
and then later on down the road,
so you throw the black away,
I see why people feel frustrated.
That's all I'm saying.
If you don't be black, don't be black,
but then don't be Nina Simone. She got a lot of shit for being Nina Simone though. That's all I'm saying. If you don't be black, don't be black. But then don't be Nina Simone.
She got a lot of shit for being Nina Simone though.
She got a lot of shit.
Yeah, and I think she apologized for it.
Yeah, and I don't think she should have to.
I don't either.
And since then.
And that's all I have.
Joe, if them niggas gave me and you
10 million dollars to play Manudo,
I'm gonna get up that bitch and
and I'm gonna get the fuck out and I'm about to fuck out of here
What in theory that sounds good, but no you wouldn't
Yo, she's an actress my nigga she's an actress
So a lot of times actresses push themselves to do different roles and to embody certain shit
So I'm not so you don't have a white man playing be a Malcolm X in a film. No, I don't want to see that
But again, we actor what I'm saying is we've embraced that mad times. What's Batman the latest?
A fucking... A rich white man.
We're not doing that.
Robert Pattinson?
Robert Pattinson?
Bill?
Christian Bell played...
Oh, Christian Bell.
He played Moses.
Like, dog, we've had 15 white Moseses and don't nobody...
Fucking Angelina Jolie might be the whitest chick in America.
She played Cleopatra.
That ain't the same, but I...
Why is it not?
Because a lot of Americans still thinks Moses is white and Cleopatra is white.
Exactly. That's different than playing somebody as a black person.
And she got dimples.
And a lot of Americans think Dominican is Dominican,
and they do not associate them with black.
And that's why I gave the Malcolm X example.
When you know somebody's black, we would say no.
So as we start to identify people by their races,
I'm just saying, do we draw a line?
But I had a whole other question about something different.
Did Koning go too far with the Kendrick Drake joke?
That was hilarious. I thought it was hilarious, but some people felt away. A lot of people. They felt away? about something different. Did the coning go too far with the Kendrick joke? The Kendrick Drake joke?
Because I thought it was hilarious,
but some people felt away.
A lot of people.
They felt away?
How'd you feel?
Actually, let me ask you, because I know as a-
I think that-
As a what?
As a what?
As a drinks boy.
As a person whose opinion I'd like to know about-
No, I think that that's where we are.
I think that, and I think that that's a part of
what old boy is talking about.
Like, yo, this shit is in the mainstream
America it's the Oscars and they ridicule on the stupid motherfucker being a pedophile
If it was that don't know the joke was that Kendrick said I mean the Conan said we're halfway we're halfway through the Oscars
It's about that time when we were for kids Lamar to come out and call Drake a pedophile right which I thought was a fucking hilarious
Joke just as a joke. I thought it was hilarious
Which I thought was a fucking hilarious joke. Just as a joke, I thought it was hilarious.
I laughered up.
Yeah, that's it, I'm laughered up.
Yeah, I'm laughered up, right.
I laughed for a long time when he said it.
Me too.
But I also think that Conan O'Brien is borderline like.
Acceptable?
No, he's like one of them.
He's really good.
He's amazing.
He's really, really like, really, really good.
I said acceptable.
Yeah.
Oh, exceptional.
Like I view him like that. And part of that for me was even that joke, right? He's amazing. He's a genius. He's a genius. I said acceptable. Really good. Oh, exceptional.
Like I view him like that.
And part of that for me was even that joke, right?
Like before he says I'm lawyered up,
you don't really know how to take that.
Right.
Like it's open to a million different interpretations,
which is why I thought it was great.
And we saying Conan O'Brien,
but the black dude that wrote the joke
has been on Twitter ever since.
Right.
Yes.
Defending himself, because people have been on his ass.
Hey, why did you write that joke about Drake?
But he said, hey, I wrote jokes the other way when it comes to predators.
I got the tweet.
I can find it, but who cares?
And honestly, that joke to me is as much about a criticism of Kendrick as it is this Drake.
It's like Kendrick is, it's a criticism that Kendrick keeps doing this.
Like damn, another one?
So I didn't see, I saw it as a balanced, Yeah, it was really I just thought it was a funny joke
I didn't from the point of view. I'm a little sick of here my name attached to the
Pedophile yeah, which I get I get it. I get it
But well, that's this is what happens when something that happens in hip-hop grows to be that big
We take all the brands everybody take it a little
and hip hop grows to be that big. All the brands, everybody.
Take it a little further.
Take it a little further.
Right.
They took it further.
You took it here.
They took it further.
And that's what happened.
He didn't want to do that.
And that's what happened.
And that's what happened.
Freeze.
Hey, tell them what he said, Freeze.
I just said it.
I said what he said.
You missed it, I said it.
Yeah.
I said it.
Why is that so funny?
It'll never not be funny.
He took it further, Freeze. He took it further. He took it all the way to the be funny. He took it further for real.
He took it all the way to the Oscars.
He took it all the way to the Oscars.
He didn't want to do it.
He didn't want to do it.
Nah, nah, nah. He's following through.
I told him.
I told him.
That's Homeboy's point.
That's's point.
That's his point.
Like, yo, my name is being associated with a pedophile
in front of the fucking Oscars, dog.
Yeah.
All the biggest fucking advertisers in the world.
But had it went the other way, he would have been calling
Kendrick a wifebeater.
So, I mean, here we go.
Oh, man.
Is it Stacy?
Hey, Nokia is fighting for his life out there.
I'll give you this better foul shit.
Hey, Elf to have a little slap in the tongue.
That shit moving out there.
That shit moving out there.
Take it back.
I like that shit.
That shit moving out there.
Take it back. I still like that record.
Take that shit back.
All the pansies, but it's working for them.
Nah, it's moving.
It's working for them.
I ain't no hater.
Nigga, remember what you said before.
I ain't no hater.
Clean it up.
What I said before?
I don't think you liked it.
I don't like it now.
But it's moving.
And it can grow on you.
Look what you just did.
Is it key, Shaq?
Hey.
It's daisy.
Nah, I don't fuck with that song.
My joints off that album are deeper,
Give Me a Hug, the Houston shit,
Crying in Houston, Rain in Houston, whatever,
and Something for Whatever.
But you can identify with some-
Those four songs, special records.
You can identify with something that's doing well.
Like, yo, that's doing, I can see why it's doing well.
I see why it's moving, but UMG ain't paying for it,
so I mean, that's coming out of somebody else's pocket.
It ain't going to be around long.
You got to pay for songs to stick around.
It don't matter how many of y'all like it.
You have to pay for songs to be around.
OK.
But I'm, hey.
Do do do do do.
I like the song.
I don't give a fuck what they think.
So Lato did in the car. She dancing to it. No, I didn't see what Lato did in the car, hey. Do do do do do. I like the song, I don't give a fuck what they did. So a lot of what Lado did in the car,
she dancing to it?
No, I didn't see what Lado did in the car, nigga.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
And I did see it, but don't say that to me on here, nigga.
I didn't see what Lado did in the car.
Not like that.
Not like that, I'm just saying, like she representing, man.
Come on.
Listen, they doing what they doing, man.
They doing what they doing.
And I'm not mad.
I'm not mad.
Hey, everybody that's rocking with some shit rock with it
I ain't the guy that's gonna try to convince you that a song you like ain't it that
It's subjective. Yeah, like what you like. I like what I like. That's not what I'm going to on the project
But hey, what do you need it right now?
Salute that's not what you try to do
What how no?
No, my taste is too weird for me to try to get
other people liking what I like and don't like what I don't.
No, that's not the beauty of music.
Antoine.
Why?
Why you that?
You trying to shoot shot?
Nah, me?
Ah, fucking.
That's how I fuck my leg up, shooting shots.
Yeah, about to say, bad time, nigga.
I'll do what Imani did to me.
I'll come just fucking stomp on that little
walking boot you got. I don't want no smoke, brother. You'll do what Imani did to me. I'll come just fucking stomp on that little walking boot you got.
I don't want no smoke, brother.
You know why you corny?
You tried to swag out the walking boot with the Sergio.
You are a corny old school nigga.
Why just I just.
Look, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
Look.
Look, you needed something that was going to fit
on top of the walking boot the right way.
Look what you did.
What's the right way, nigga?
Sweatpants.
You know the right way.
Stop.
You look good, man. You look like. He did his guy's nuts. You got it. You look what you did. What's the right way, nigga? Sweatpants. You know the right way, stop. You look good, man.
You look like a...
This guy is nuts.
You got it.
You look like an 89.
Yeah, the great with the great.
You look like an 89, my nigga.
Stupid son, something's wrong with your brain, yo.
When you made your first million at 29,
how fast did you lose it?
Very fast, come on, get off me.
Got the watch, too.
You know some old time pimp shit. Pimp man. Very fast. Pimp man. lose it very fast come on get off the watch very fast how many years three four
very fast hey what's that because the markets fell so you didn't spend it, it just the way you... Not spend it. Oh, okay, okay. Not spend it. Chart house every day.
Got you.
Same barks.
And that's back when the chart house was impressing bitches.
Woo!
And that's back when the chart house...
Chart house every day.
Yeah.
What?
Your number might be in the fours.
I ain't gonna lie.
Your number might, I meant my bad fives.
No, not fives.
Not fives, come on.
Fives, dawg? Mm. Will did it.
Will was the man.
So were you.
You was the man.
Oh, my brain was on the house.
You was the man, nigga.
Oh, the fives.
You're not the fives, never.
Five digits, don't listen to him, dawg.
Wait, five digits or five hundreds?
Five digits.
Oh, oh.
Are you crazy?
Five hundreds.
That's why I was like, I was gonna say that to you.
Are you crazy?
He's somewhere in the thousands.
I don't know where, but I think it might be closer to the five than it is
the three digits
That's my own belief. I'm not forcing nobody else to think nothing. That's my own shit. Johnny North
5,000 is yes Antoine 10,000. Yes
That's a lot. Oh 49 years old fucking long time, okay
Every day That's a lot 49 years old fucking wrong time King No, it's funny about this. All right, I'm wrong. Three thousand. You just drew that number?
I was about to say, did you want the calculator?
Yeah, at three thousand, you gotta pop six women a day for your whole life.
Is that true?
That don't sound true to me.
I just did the math.
Wait, Ish, it's 365 days, 1800 would be, if you did six a day for one year, it would be 1800.
49 years times 365 days. Wait, Ish, if you did six a day for one year, it'd be 1,800.
49 years times 365 days is 17,885 days divided by 3,000 is 5.96 women a day.
Nah, I think you're doing it right.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
Something's wrong with your math.
That's not right.
Something's wrong with your math.
You should have divided where you both did.
No, let's check.
That nigga's doing it.
This is so both, no. Let's check. Damn, that nigga's doing something. But this nigga's crazy.
This is so sick, man.
Yeah, you do some more.
Because again, if you did six a day,
in one year you would have done 1,800 already.
365 days here?
Oh, you're right, you're right.
Damn, this shit, let's go, man.
That's how much you've been fucking, look.
Right.
Look.
You're right.
Yeah, my shit up.
All right, so 5,000 now.
He's like, wait, I did fuck 5,000 with it.
Yeah.
Turns out.
5,000. 6 a day.
Yo, you're stupid, bro.
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All right, before we go any further,
I wanna shout out to my Ramadan niggas out there.
Shout out.
I wanna shout out to y'all for being strong,
being disciplined, getting in that bag.
My barber came over the other day, almost fainted,
cutting my hair.
At the end of the cut was like,
yo, it's just like a store, I can get some snacks.
Anything to fill me up on the ride home.
I was like, god damn, you going through it, this Ramadan.
Dog, why you didn't offer him snacks?
Why you ain't offer the nigga no snacks. Why you didn't offer him snacks? Why you ain't offering the nigga no snacks?
Why you didn't offer him snacks?
Why y'all assume I have snacks?
You got something to eat in your house.
You just told me about how much season.
Yo, you really did have a bad month?
Yeah, I did.
I let you hold something.
Who's fucked up?
Yeah, I did.
No, but hold on, wait, you know what it is?
Nurses, some water now, some snacks.
It is.
I had a bad month.
Wait, hold on, hold on, real quick.
Would you let me hold something?
Of course I would. It's different from when your little Elizabeth friends want to hold something.
No and you was on my case. When I want to hold something it ain't gonna be the same as your
little West Orange friends. I know because they might not give it back. You gotta give it back.
When I come, pause. I need pause. I need a few. I agree with you niggas on my case about the 350.
Nigga like he I started to think my man's struggling a little bit,
but then I had to think that it's all part of his plan
to distract us.
Is that what it is?
Yeah, because we've been coming at him
for the past couple of weeks on here about him showing out
and him not being generous, which he is.
So then now he wants to double down.
What's up with that?
On the flip side, you had call it. He generous to you?
You had a good month, huh?
I did have a good month, yes.
How much you made last month?
I'm 46.
Nice.
From the room alone?
No, not including what you give me.
Hold on.
Let us praise you.
Take a compliment.
Not including what he gives you.
No.
So 66. Well, the money time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I can answer that. Why you don't ask them like you asked them the first time? Oh yeah. What I ask them, how you made that?
Yeah.
Just working, working hard, filming.
How you made that come off a little different
than what's your primary source.
I'll try to be more respectful on camera.
Yeah, I mean, just working hard, filming,
and trying to figure it out.
You know, I put double work in
because my plan was to take the whole month off.
That's my plan.
To go to Trinidad.
To Trinidad and just handle some business
because it's me and him going back and forth playing around.
But you know, shit was looking too sweet.
Shit looking good out there, my boy.
My boy.
I fixed the whole studio.
46, that's a good month.
You see, a month where we made 46 for.
Yeah, it's a great month, my nigga.
God damn. Let's not stop it. It's all work and dedication, man. That money's good month. You see, a month where he made 46 for... It's a great month, money. God damn.
No, stop it.
It's all work and dedication, man.
That money's gone anyway.
You ain't teaching niggas how to do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He niggas.
I am niggas.
I am niggas.
Yeah, I'm niggas.
I'm niggas.
No, no, but it's not that.
I need some help.
And I was just telling Ish, I said,
yo, one of the accountants charged $500 an hour.
Like he even includes email,
if he responds to an email,
he's just some crazy shit that I'm learning in real time.
And um.
Oh, you don't say.
That's actually my business.
I didn't know that.
I thought niggas just, once you hire them.
That's literally the debate they was having two weeks ago.
Oh, for real?
Verbiate them.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, they were.
Yeah, so when I, I thought that, you know,
once you hire them, they communicate with you,
but now they charging by the email.
If they have to respond to you, he's charging,
he's on the clock.
Per phone call, per piece of correspondence.
If they pick up your phone.
Your phone call, yes.
You're getting charged for that.
And they call you on weekends, and week,
they don't mind, they call you at night.
But you being charged for that time.
Of course, 46.
That's great though, man.
And you got a lot of insurance costs too, I'm sure.
Huh?
I would just imagine on your set, the insurance
costs a little higher.
Well, here's the thing.
And this is why.
You have insurance.
I do.
Hold on.
Let me get me.
He just answered like a nigga who don't.
How about the response?
That's a good idea.
No, no, no.
Let me respond.
You ain't got insurance.
You like to crack jokes.
I'm not cracking.
Let me respond, please.
They was about to cancel my insurance
because it was up for a renewal and I didn't pay.
I kept pushing it all, pushing it all
because I was good with that with them.
So then somebody new there that told me,
yo, you gotta pay what you gotta pay
or your insurance is about to be canceled.
Because they off the strength early in the month
when I was not doing too good.
They said, yo, I said, I don't got it right now.
Can you send it?
You know I'm good for it, they sent it.
I gave it to my landlord,
I just totally forgot the room was happening,
but you know, I paid it, I paid it two days ago.
I just wanted it to happen,
like some crazy unexpected shit could happen,
like a brawl could break out on set.
And then somebody get punched in the face.
Stop it.
You know what I mean?
Next thing you know.
I paid it two days ago.
Okay, solid, that's all.
Damn, I'm getting money up here, yo. Yo, man, why's all. Damn, I don't get money up here.
Yo Mel, why did you send me a DM from-
They eatin'.
You sent me a DM from-
They eatin'.
They eatin'.
Do you run the Hot and Bother page?
Is that you that runs it?
The Instagram.
Because you sent me a DM about wanting to live and health, so I don't know if you was
talking to me through it.
It was a video about one black man wanting to live and something.
One of her assistants was cracking on you.
No, it wasn't cracking on me.
But it was like, when I read it, I'm like, damn,
Mel really want me to get healthy.
I think it was me.
I was one of them spaces girls.
No, it was me.
Stop it.
That wasn't nobody but spaces.
This shit should give her free?
Yeah.
It's the team.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She got a team of free.
Yeah.
Intern, intern.
That's how they do it.
Intern.
I did that paid intern move too. I paid for your gas. No, it's a trip. Paid intern to shit. Paid intern, intern. That's how it go. Intern. I did that paid intern move too.
I paid me a gas.
That was a trip.
Paid intern to shit.
Paid intern to shit.
I paid me a gas.
No, that was me.
That wasn't you.
It was me.
No, it was me.
OK.
It was me.
I promise.
I ain't going to lie.
The way you pull it off, you find a way
to get the free shit.
What did you tell him?
What did you promise him?
I'll bring you to the JVP here.
I'll bring you up there.
I flip did it.
He put all the flip the networks did.
Mail the network.
We gonna bring you right on up.
Mail the network.
Mail the network.
Mel be hustling this shit out.
She getting it done, Joe.
You hear me?
Look, then she make this little stupid face.
Look, look, then she make this little stupid ass face.
Gotta love it, gotta love it.
All right, Saturday night was the fight.
Yes, sir.
Saturday night was the fight.
Javante Tank Davis versus Lamont Roach Jr.
I owe that man an apology.
We do.
I mean, I ain't speaking for y'all.
I don't know what anybody else said.
I came in here with my bald ass and was like,
I would like for Tank to fight somebody that I know,
because I'm a casual fan.
That was what you said, yeah.
Yeah, so I owe that man an apology.
He certainly gained my respect.
Really great fight.
The best fight I've ever seen against Tank.
I think he won.
I do too.
I think he won.
If they're counting the knockdown. You gotta count it. Okay count it. Why not?
It's not the rules. What's the rules? The rule is if um, if you take a knee as a result of
Some other circumstance outside of being punched or hit that forced you to take a knee
It doesn't count as a knockdown like an equipment malfunction or something like that. It don't count as a knockdown
But he got punched he did so when they showed it
They showed the super slow-mo the two punches that he threw missed them right before that he got hit
But the two I know so he looked at the referee
He looked at the referee and took a knee he didn't like it wasn't a punch that forced him to take the knee
Do you understand what I'm saying?
Mm-hmm, and they showed it a super slow mo. That's open for interpretation is what I'm saying.
That's true.
And there's a lot of AI generated videos with that
because they're saying that at one point he turned his head
and the punch missed but I didn't.
He got hit.
He got hit.
Bro they showed the super slow mo.
And then those two jabs, I seen them in the middle.
You're talking about two different punches, yeah.
I'm talking about the hit before those two check jabs.
Right.
And then he looked at the ref for a while,
and then he took the knee.
And that's what makes the rule interesting,
because based on the rule,
the fact that you didn't get hit with them two jabs
means you can take the knee,
because the jabs didn't cause you to take the knee.
But your point is well taken,
which is you can still be dizzy from the punches.
It was 30 seconds.
It was four punches thrown.
He threw a hard ass hook that missed.
Then he hit him with another semi-hook. Then he threw two jabs that missed.
So it's a possibility like when Tank hit Ryan,
Ryan with the, that liver shot.
He punched him.
My man took about three steps back and then was like, whoa.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not disagreeing with you.
I'm just saying it's open to interpretation.
Like Mark said, my thing is I don't think he lost.
I'm not hanging my hat on that knee either by the way.
I think he just lost.
Nah, they gave, I think it was a draw.
Cause they gave, two of the judges gave Roach the 12th round.
And that 12th round wasn't really Roach's in my opinion.
So I think, I think.
See I read the opposite.
I read that Tank got, two of the judges gave Tank the 12th
and if he didn't get those two judges in the 12th,
he loses.
See, I read it, but they said that they gave Roach the 12th.
So we'll check it.
We'll check it.
Well, Tank won the last round.
To me, and two of the judges gave Roach the last round.
Those two judges would have gave Tank the last round.
Fact check that.
Fact check that.
What we're watching in real time is how the audiences,
I don't want to say they getting tired of Tank,
but they, you know, they, they, they,
I want to say tired, because I fuck with Tank.
No, tired is right.
I took a nap during them first five rounds.
No, but they, they, they, they, they, they,
I was dozing in and out.
They were booing, they were booing,
they don't boo Tank, they were booing Tank.
They started to boo Tank based off his excuse
about the grease in his eye, and they were booing him.
He looked differently than,
he looked different than we're used to seeing.
Regardless of what you think of the outcome.
You think he was using the step or you think it was just a bad night?
I mean, I think that everybody...
I don't want to take nothing away from Roach.
I'm talking about two separate things.
I'm not taking nothing away from Roach.
I'm saying the tank that I saw on display that night
was not like the tank I've seen in previous fights. That's what I'm saying.
That could be from a bad night.
He looked frustrated in areas
that I'm not used to seeing him frustrated in.
I've seen a million clips that say he was beefing
with Coach Cal in the corner.
So there could have been a few things going on.
I just know that I'm not used to seeing him like that.
Word. I was just saying, I'm not used to seeing him like that.
I was just saying, I got the official scorecard up
and two of the judges did give Roach the 10th round.
I mean, excuse me, 12th round.
I don't think Roach won the 12th round.
He didn't win the 12th round.
So that's the thing, like they saying that they would have
gave.
And those are the two judges that had to even score.
Had to even fight.
So if those two judges give Tank the 12th round,
it's a unanimous decision.
I think what I told Corey, we had an argument off camera,
I think Tank gets hit a lot.
Every fight he fights, he gets hit a lot.
What happens is he finds a way in the seventh or eighth
round to hit somebody with some clean, hard shit
that puts him down.
And a lot of those fights, he'd be losing on the scorecard.
He'd just be knocking niggas out.
So in this particular fight, he couldn't knock Roach out.
Roach landed, I mean, went the distance,
and it was a pretty even fight.
I think Tank might've got the edge, in my opinion,
but it was a real clear fight.
He gets hit a lot.
Tank was doing pretty good.
If he didn't lose it, he didn't win it.
Yeah, I think the draw's fine.
If he didn't lose it, he didn't win it.
He didn't win it.
I'm not mad at the draw.
I'm not mad at the draw.
Me either. I'm not mad at the draw. I'm not mad at the draw. Me either.
I mean, I'm not mad at that.
Can we acknowledge how we thought
that this would be a bum fight,
not on Tank's behalf,
but just like we didn't know who the guy was
and we were off our seats.
We were on the edge.
Like, Lux was at my house and, you know,
I was sitting there like, we were like this, oh shit.
I thought it was a good fight.
It was a real good fight.
I thought it was a real good fight.
Shout out to the fans.
I'm sorry, it's.
One of the things I like with Tank,
because we criticize people like Shakur.
We criticize people when they wanna box, right?
When they strategically box.
Tank kinda gives us what the fans want, which is a brawl.
So then niggas was dissing him when he was brawling
with a brawler and he wasn't dominating him.
Which one do we want? We want a boxing match or you want a brawling with a brawler, he wasn't dominating him, which one do we want?
We want a boxing match or you want a brawling match?
You get what I'm saying?
And I think that he typically brawls, he gets hit a lot.
He just hits harder.
The nigga was hitting his shit out of me.
Yeah, he just hits hard.
He was taking some hits.
Yeah.
From round six, seven on, that was a match.
It was a slow press.
That was an absolute match.
Great match, right there.
Great fight.
I got a problem with how late them fights be starting.
Me too. Me too. This shit started real late. I don't understand. The fight. Great fight. I got a problem with how late them fights be starting. Me too.
Me too.
This shit started real late.
I don't understand.
The fight started at 11.45.
Yeah.
I be bad.
Why do they do that?
It's over after one.
Is that a business move?
No, it was in the east.
It was in the block place.
No, I know, but usually the fights are on the west coast.
So it starts around like eight, nine o'clock over there.
You niggas is in Brooklyn.
Get this shit cracking.
Right.
We in Brooklyn. So that's y'all. Get the undercar going in six so we can Get this shit cracking. We in Brooklyn.
Get the undercar going in six so we can see this fight before bed time.
I agree. That's a good point.
Again, all of respect in the world to Lamont Roach.
But again, them saying Lamont Roach won would have bigger implications than just on boxing.
How so?
Because tank is the biggest draw right now, right? Indeed. Yes.
Like nobody near in any weight class.
Nowhere, nowhere near it.
And I think he's the, what is it?
What did I read this morning?
Not he's the last American fighter, but he's the, what is it, what did I read this morning? Not he's the last American fighter,
but he's the dominant American fighter.
Like a lot of the other fighters have signed deals
where they in Abu Dhabi or over here or wherever.
I'm not fact checking right now,
but I read something that says Shakur
and a bunch of other niggas fuck with
just non-American places.
So if you're taking it from the biggest draw in America,
then nah, hell no.
You're saying that still might be signed
on American soil. Business, business.
All business. Big business.
It's too many, it's too many things that are affected.
Yeah, we can't let that happen.
Yeah, nah. Sorry.
I'm with that.
I mean, we say it about other sports. It's true. You're a fool. We won't let that happen. I'm with that. I mean, we say it about other sports. It's true.
You're a fool.
I'm gonna let that happen.
I'm with that.
That's our brand at that point.
Shout to Tank, man.
I think Tank.
They announced all night, yo, we have reached a record for the number of people even allowed
in the Barclays tonight.
Hey.
Wow.
They kept saying that.
They haven't been to Barclays a million times.
It's like we're at 19-7-25. They was
packed up in this. For a boxing match. For a boxing match. So and I don't know another fighter that
could put him in the stadium like that. What did y'all think about his hair grease excuse for the knee?
I think he believed it. No but and that's what they showed it. And Amanda, she came out and said
that she had a similar situation.
Same thing happened to her, I read.
Amanda Serrano.
Oh.
Yeah, she said that it happened to me before.
She said that it burns your eyes.
It happened to me before when I was getting to Beijing.
Beijing started dripping in your eye now.
It's like, they're old shit.
Oh, when hug grease start dripping in your eye. She It's like, they're all shit. Oh, when hug grease start dripping in your eye.
She crazy.
Hug grease?
She on top.
Shit.
You a porn star.
You would have been in the Playboy matches.
Never.
That probably was your wish as a kid.
Never.
I can't wait to go there with them snow bunnies.
They charge.
With all due respect.
To getting there?
After watching everybody at the basketball court. What's up?
She gonna be on top.
She did, word.
Word.
Word.
Respectfully.
No, no.
Respect niggas family.
Myself included.
I said word.
Myself included.
Respect niggas family.
That's the first thing I said to him.
I said damn son, you can't even,
I was like damn son, you can't even
get into your shit no more.
What'd you say?
It's a wrap.
She gonna be on top.
He's like, I'm gonna hurt her.
My head work. I get a little rope, you know'd you say? It's a wrap. You gonna be on top? He's like, I'm gonna hit work.
I get a little rope, you know what I mean?
That's what my Sunday was.
I'm gonna rotate a cuff.
That's all good.
Our partners deserve better, but nah.
Nah, I felt horrible.
I felt horrible.
If Lamont, if Lamont.
Yo, you good?
Hold up, are you cool?
Oh no, I'm great.
Are you cool?
I caught you making that little stupid face at us.
I caught you making that little stupid face at us. I caught you making that little stupid face at us.
Listen, I'm just glad that, you know,
like the collective delusion has lifted.
The cloud has lifted and now you guys are, you know.
We're in our place.
Yeah.
We're in our place.
Yeah, yeah.
That's fair.
It's cute.
It's cute.
You were saying.
I said, if Lamont Rhodes Jr. does well in his next fights,
man, we got a new star, you know.
And how he tough.
He's fire.
I mean, he made a statement from DC.
Yeah, and he started.
What's his record?
I don't follow boxing much.
You got a good record.
You got a good record.
Okay, so this isn't like a styles mixed fights thing
where like, we're like.
You got one loss.
Okay.
He was trying to do, he was doing a shoulder roll
and I see that Tank figured out the double jab
with the left or whatever he was doing
to get past the shoulder roll.
People can't do it like Floyd.
Floyd.
People can't do it like Floyd.
That's Floyd.
Yeah, people can't do it like Floyd.
That's Floyd.
Yeah.
Then that's the other problem, right?
With all due respect,
I ain't just gonna throw the star word around so loosely.
Like it take a lot outside of boxing
to do what Tank has done, what Floyd did,
what Pacquiao did.
What De La Hoya did.
Tank is that nigga, yeah.
Like when you start getting into the box office aspect,
Lamar wrote for all the got the boxing.
You need that other part.
But he's never had an opportunity to do it.
So we don't know if you can do it until you get the boxing. You need that other part. But he's never had an opportunity to do it. So we don't know if you can do it until you get the shot.
Dog, I feel like even at the weigh-in and interviews,
when they're at the table and they're doing the interviews,
they're leading up to the fight, even kind of lacked
some of the normal flair that tank normally has.
I think they're like they were cool.
I know you, we've been fighting since we was 10.
And they both from the same.
He like, yo, your mom is here.
Come on, I'm not gonna do that in front of your mom.
It's like, we not getting this.
I ain't trying to kill you.
And Lamont is like, they asking him some of the juicy shit.
Yo, in the interview you said Tank wasn't gonna knock you out
and you was gonna destroy him.
What do you think about that?
And he gave the logical man answer,
like the fuck you want me to say?
Right.
That's what they asked me.
I'm fighting this man.
Like, how would you like me to answer that?
That makes sense.
It's not so box office.
That ain't what boxing is for.
It's not so box office.
Nah.
But I think when it-
Not when you're friends with somebody, Joe.
No, I think once you respect a nigga,
once you've been in that ring for 12 rounds,
that nigga hit hard, he wasn't no slouch,
he wasn't no chump, I gotta respect him more,
I'ma look like an idiot.
Nigga, they start to fight each other dirty and love a nigga.
Yeah, nigga, like that shit.
They start to get mad at each other.
Well, Tank do that a lot.
We in war, nigga.
They be talking crazy to each other in the ring, Joe.
Yo, what y'all think about the hairstylist coming out?
Sit down.
Yeah, I think-
It's not your time.
I think she's lost a couple thousand dollars
because that's the last time you'll do my hair, you dummy.
Just to get some fucking clout.
You a idiot.
Shut the fuck up.
You shouldn't have had none to say.
Stupid.
I didn't use greasy hair.
Ida came out, y'all put extra grease in this shit.
My bad, it's my fault, boy.
Right.
Crazy, stupid ass.
To get some clout.
Yeah, I would have just took a different angle.
Did y'all like his hair?
My bad, Tank.
I apologize.
I'll try to use some oil base next time.
Nigga, I've said all I should.
Even if he was lying, that ain't for you to say shit.
Support the lie.
That's your job.
We need to bring back people supporting your lie. It ain't enough of that no more these bitches got all the gadgets and the tricks and the iPhones and the iCloud link to
They phone and the iPad
No, bring back
One friend to support the lie.
Yo, you know what they need to bring back?
Yo, call her right now.
Like, we don't even get that no more.
That was the one.
Call her right now.
Call her right now, yeah.
When Joe received the call, they were looking for Michael Paul.
He came inside like, something's going on with my phone.
They call me about Michael Paul, like about that doctor.
Like, his shit is tapped.
He know his shit's tapped, his shit's tapped.
They called me and asked me if I was available
to do a surgery, I knew they asked, I said, you joking?
I said, yo, go ahead, cause I'll come up there.
Yo, my thumb a little fucked up,
but I'm nice with the knife.
I'm free, I'll come up there and save somebody,
John Q, bitch.
I owe it to you, try. Yeah, no, for real.
I owe it to humanity to try.
Great fight, though.
Shout out to both of them.
Shout out to both of them.
Looking forward to a rematch.
Hopefully, they get a rematch.
I don't think you got a rematch clause.
He did have a rematch clause, he said on Twitter.
Really?
Because Tank was like, I'm pushing for the rematch fast.
And then Lamont was like, it's in there already.
No, they both was like, yo, we should do it again,
but he didn't sound.
No, no, Lamont said it's in the contract already.
On Twitter.
Because you wanted it in there,
so if you want a rematch, take the fucking rematch.
Right.
Cool.
We'll see.
Look, you know all it's gonna do?
Cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching. It's gonna push the price.
That's it.
It's gonna push the price.
Now everybody gonna wanna see the shit.
Yeah.
It's gonna push the price.
Maybe you're gonna be high.
It's gonna be 90 days.
And now it's gonna command Vegas.
Did that fight make you feel differently about what you thought of Tank versus Shakur?
No.
No.
Who would you have winning in that?
I can't answer.
It's hard because styles make fights, but I told, me and Corey had this argument off
camera, I said that, see the way Roach was fighting, they was literally going toe to toe.
Like, yo, Shakur's not going to do that.
Shakur's not trying to get hit.
You get what I'm saying?
So it's gonna just be, it's gonna be a style thing.
If Shakur can hit him and move and hit him and move
and hit him and move, he'll beat him in points.
If Tank can land one of them monster hits
that he be doing, then he'll knock him out.
But Tank could take punches.
He got a chin, yo.
He take a lot of punches.
He got a chin.
So I think that you never know.
Because again, it's the style thing.
The North New Jersey in me will not allow me to honestly answer that question.
Word.
That's my answer.
There you go, Free.
Yo, you stupid, yo.
There you go, Free.
I ain't gonna say that.
I seen a lot of people giving a tank slack for coming out with Jim and Juelz.
I'm from New York, so I can't get into that.
I thought it was fly.
Why though?
Like what is their,
this probably is like. What's the connection?
What's the critique?
The critique is a lot of people feel like
they've never seen Tank look like that.
So they're saying bad Juju was on him
from Jim and Jewels.
Cam said it's bad energy when you came out.
Then there's some other comedian niggas
that have been saying,
yo, why the fuck you got these old young niggas,
whatever they were saying.
Again, I'm from New York.
I can't rock with it.
I was high.
Yeah, man, you just want to see it.
I was high.
I like that song.
Yeah, I know what they mean.
I like, I like crunk music.
Get crunk.
They just gonna keep getting that Jim fool looking young.
Yeah.
Like dressing young, the chrome hard scarf.
Like, you can't win.
But that's his battle.
That's what he do.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Listen, my New York bias shows in Jim Jones conversation.
So I'm leaving it.
So I'm leaving it, man.
That album is crazy though.
It is really good. Yeah, it is really good. I really like it. So I'm leaving it, man. That album is crazy though. It is really good.
I really like it.
I really like it.
Start the conversation.
Yeah, it is.
All right, what else we got?
What else we got?
Why is Paul George on the board?
I just want to understand.
Cause Paul George last week.
Ski mask Hall of Fame.
He might be the...
He was done done.
Don't you wish for the days when all you had to complain about was Tobias Harris contract?
Remember that?
And he killin'.
In Detroit.
He's doing well.
I didn't want to lose to Paul George.
Paul George said that he's stopping his podcast to focus on winning a championship.
Thanks.
And I thought that was Centel, but it wasn't.
It wasn't.
He really said that.
So the question for me, not to take it off of Paul George,
because I think that's fair, is in general,
should NBA players be allowed to have podcasts
while they're in season?
While they're in season.
I don't like it.
Or even while they're in play?
Yeah.
Versus the ones that are retired right now?
I'm not a fan of the sports athletes having podcasts
during season.
I've never been a fan of it. I stand with ICE. sports athletes having podcasts during season.
I've never been a fan of it.
I stand with ICE.
I almost wanted to say, really not if your team
is doing bad, I can't see how your conversation
with the owner is going in that respect.
Jalen Brunson makes it tough for me to have that argument
because him and Josh Hart have a podcast
that I want them to stop.
But every time we're down by 12 with 30 seconds left,
he scores fucking 14 points.
Right.
So I can't say anything about Jalen Brunson's performance,
but would I like that podcast to stop during season?
Yeah.
But then they got Dolan on the next podcast
that they're promoting,
which is like a clusterfuck for Knicks fans,
because Dolan has had strict media rules
since he inherited the team from his dad.
So for him to be sitting with a player
and talking is like phenomenal.
It's almost like the Yankees changing the beard rule.
I think it's dope.
I think it gives them something mentally
to distract their focus.
They don't, they work out every day, but they don't work out hard every day.
You know what I mean?
Like they watch film, they might do walkthroughs and shit like that, but then they have a huge
portion of their day that belongs to them.
So if these are things that bring their anxiety down, it's fun, they enjoy doing it.
Keep them up to clubs.
Yeah, and that part.
We in New York City, bro.
We've seen what New York does to athletes.
You know what I'm saying?
So if they could do this.
You've seen it for sure, right?
You too.
Talk about it.
Yeah, you got us.
We talking about you right now.
Talk about it.
You've seen it for sure, for sure.
I've seen it for sure, for sure.
You was one of the niggas that did it.
I don't who.
You didn't need to.
Anyway, so I think I'm for it.
I'm against it.
Even what you said, if it takes a focus,
like if I think if your team is ass,
I don't want to see you focused on nothing else.
It's Kyle Murray playing Call of Duty.
So, but like I don't, you could do it,
and I just don't want to know that you doing that.
To me, you should be trying to get better.
You all should be trying to focus
on how to turn this team around
and try to get some wins out there.
If you sitting here kicking it with your homies
or whatever on a podcast about,
it just seems focus is off.
They human, bro.
So to Joe's point with Brunson and Josh Art,
they winning.
Yeah, but that's an outlier.
I know that's not true.
Draymond is winning. Draymond is winning too, but for, but that's the outlier. I know that's not true Draymond is winning Draymond's winning too, but but it for me for me. It's not about Ron is winning
If you're winning no one complains if you're losing people complain
But for me and that's ultimately what it would have come down to right as a fan or as a owner
That's the perception of it for me as well as the effectiveness of it
The first question is can you pod and be good at this?
It's your job and I don't know some people can some people can't before podcast Paul George was sitting out as well as the effectiveness of it. The first question is, can you pod and be good at this?
It's your job.
And I don't know, some people can, some people can't.
Before podcasts, Paul George was sitting out games.
Before podcasts existed, he was fucking,
coming up short on playoffs,
at least in a lot of people's minds.
The numbers don't really show that, but whatever, right?
It's a perception of it.
So if I'm the Sixers owner,
and they're selling tickets for a dollar right now in Philly,
they're literally selling tickets for a...
You ain't been down there in a long time, neither.
No, I sold all my tickets.
I paid like $200,000 for them.
Look at you just wanting another date.
No, I didn't.
No, he didn't go.
Who said that?
No, he didn't go anymore, yo.
He gonna call you when he go again?
So if I can't give these tickets away
and beat his injury, Paul George ain't playing,
and then I go to YouTube to type Paul George in
to find out when he's gonna play,
and instead I got another episode of Podcast Pete.
It just looks bad, and it's bad for business.
That Paul George contract,
I think it's like a five year deal, something nuts.
It looks nuts as it goes.
Embiid being unavailable is a understatement.
They're now talking about getting their money back
on his contract. Yeah, medical, early his contract if he's unable to play a year
from the date that it's, mm-hmm.
Yo, you don't get my money, I don't care about all this.
It's over now, right?
We gotta go figure out what that bet was.
It's $5,000.
Five bucks.
Yeah, you just gotta send that.
I'll give it to you right now if you want it.
You have $5,000 cash in them jeans?
I was gonna.
You'd be able to see them. You have five thousand dollars cash in them jeans? I was going to be...
You'd be able to see them.
You'd be able to see them.
I was going to bring you a kid
and bring it to you in cash.
My man is doing bad.
Four years, two 11s.
He must be fucked up.
My man doing bad.
He collects on his bets.
Nah, but he usually, I never see my...
There's a hunger in his voice.
Nigga, you gotta, touch him so he got a fever.
You good, my nigga?
You doing, it's looking shaky for you, doggy.
I don't know what plan you got.
It's tough out here.
But I ain't falling for it, nigga.
I'm saying it's tough out here.
Niggas brought fake water in here, all type of shit.
Force it water with niggas names on it.
It's tough.
I don't always assume I'm doing good.
Check on your strong friends. He making 53 million this year. He's tough. Don't always assume I'm doing good.
Check on your strong friends.
He make a 53 million this year.
He's at career lows.
Joe?
Yeah, Joe about that.
About 40.
That shit is nuts.
He signed a four year deal for 211 change.
They sick.
He's killing.
They sick.
And as a fan.
He averaged 16 as a fan.
He averaged 16 points a game.
As much money as I spend on season tickets, when I actually see it as like, y'all are
fucking with my money right now.
I feel disrespected.
I feel disrespected to watch somebody not play.
I mean, when we went to the game, he was just sitting there chilling.
Chilling.
Yeah.
He was chilling.
To see that and then to watch you be on a podcast every day.
And podcasts is different than playing basketball.
I get that. We proved that this weekend.
But at some point, you gotta look like you've given
that effort, you know what I'm saying?
As an owner, I think they should just make a rule.
I can't say nothing about Paul George negative ever,
because many years ago, we was heading into Whip,
right there by Greenhouse, we was walking in Whip, and I was behind him in the whip, right there by Greenhouse.
He was walking in whip, and I was behind him in the line.
Boy, he was behind me in the line.
I got respect for him.
I got respect for him, man.
How many?
That's a, that shit is a cheat code.
Six and nine in the line.
Decent looking, nice skin.
Satu, fresh line up, good contract.
I'm in there, bummy as hell shooting.
I don't care.
Joe Budden.
I got immense respect for Paul George.
I can't say nothing about him.
I have a question real quick.
When Luca wiped his sweat on the basketball,
and that was tight. That ref was tight.
That ref wanted to smack the shit out of Luca.
Did she have a right to be mad?
Was that a girl?
Oh, hey, I don't know.
I was gone, I think.
Sorry, pardon me.
Did the ref have a right to be upset?
Yes.
Yes and no, but.
Luca has a right to do that.
The ref has a right to be mad.
Stop, nigga.
It's a million people that work here
that can get you a towel or anything to wipe your sweat off.
I'm the one handling this ball.
You wiping your sweat on the ball
and I gotta handle it right here on the free throw line.
Jordan niggas be sweaty as fuck.
They be wiping their...
The Yugoslavians.
All, no.
What's Luka?
What's Luka?
The niggas, they be...
What's Luka?
Some shit, right?
They be sweaty, them, them.
Them.
Them, them.
Them.
Yo, but again, everybody's jersey be sweaty,
like they're white, they jersey, it's the same shit.
The black people don't act like that.
Black people act like that.
I was right, he's Slovenian.
See?
He's Slovenian.
What the fuck is that?
What country?
Yugoslavia, nigga.
Yes.
No.
No, it's not Yugoslavia.
Slovenia.
Oh, shit, same shit.
Potentially part of the old Yugoslavia?
Potentially.
Yeah.
Melania's from there.
Yo, hold me down.
Hold me down, man.
Yo, you American, though.
Enough of that sick shit you be talking about.
You an American, man.
She's Russian, too, nigga.
She know that, son.
You an American.
She know that, son.
We just crack jokes.
Our mother was whooping her ass as a kid.
She knows that, son, nigga.
She had to walk with the president picture.
Remember what we said?
Man, that's how?
I think Reddit found a picture of her in her mom,
that shit was funny.
It's possible, it's possible.
I've posted pictures of me and my mom on my page.
Reddit, get off your fucking ass.
You held it down though, that was mad funny.
You mean you held it down?
No, I mean the jokes, like that shit was funny.
She's a great sport.
Yeah, no, that was hilarious. That was absolutely
Paul George, I think he got the memo. Yes, he did
Even saying that out loud
All right, we're gonna try to do this with care and sensitivity.
We're gonna try to do this in a manner to where y'all still have time to do what you
need to do out there.
We're gonna try to do this with the utmost respect for the viewers without too many spoilers.
Spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert,
they may indeed, oh my God, they may kill the soundtrack.
They did, they did.
They absolutely smoked the soundtrack.
They smoked it.
Oh, let me stop this for a second.
How me singing that shit with what I have to say?
No, because first thing was she's doing an instrumental
and I caught it and I was like, oh, they caught that.
This is my question to y'all.
This is just quick.
Which do you prefer?
I'm gonna play that in the car.
You're such a honky, shut your ass.
It's Bill fucking Collins.
He's him.
Which do y'all prefer?
What they did on Paradise,
where they have the angelic white voice coming down
to do your favorite known slap like Paradise
under a soft bed of uh, better music or the
trend in the movies where they take the hard rap song hook and slow it all the way down
like the horror movies.
Like I got five on it.
Ooh, I love when they did that.
They do that a lot now in the movies.
With that one in particular.
Say My Name for Candy Man.
They did that one.
They're doing it now.
I'm with that.
And the new one, uh, bear with me cause my brain for Candy Man. They did that one. Yeah, they're doing it now. I'm with that. And the new one, be with me,
because my brain is leaving me.
And the new one, not a Marvel movie,
but one of them new hero movies that's coming out soon,
I think they did Starship.
Like, and they slowed that down,
and that was absolutely insane.
All right, y'all know what I'm talking about.
What song from Starship, though?
Fucking Sarah, like. The one. Hold up. Hold right, y'all know what I'm talking about. What song from Starship though? Fucking Sara, like.
The one, hold up.
Hold up, hold up, hold up.
It's the one I just played recently.
That was it.
Oh fuck.
Well anyway, I like the slowed up shit
on a hard hip hop record.
I like what they do both.
I like both.
Like how they did with this.
I like both.
The angelic white voice is underrated
I love me good angelic white voice. Yeah, no, it's true
All right, did everybody here see the finale of paradise?
Yeah, 40 and up right now, let's go get your baby
40 and up right now. Let's go, give me your back big bell.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Let's go Ish.
Down to the legend Phil Collins too.
They play it a lot in your house, right Ish?
Here we go.
Here we go.
He walks on, can't hear her
Starts to whistle as he crosses the street I'm so mad at myself for all the guesses that I did as to who's gonna kill Cal
Oh, think twice
Cause it's another day for you and me in paradise
Oh, think twice Near paradise
This y'all rock
Borderline but yeah no. Yeah.
A little passage.
All right.
Very angry at myself and my guests.
I'm not listening to these spoilers.
Same.
You didn't see it.
Take a break.
No, I'm going to the bathroom.
Take a break.
Yeah, I'm like six inches by y'all.
Oh my God.
Get out.
Take a walk.
Starbucks.
Take a hike.
Go to fucking Starbucks.
Go grab us some lunch or something.
What a jerk.
What a fucking jerk. It's no way anybody could. Yeah, no fucking Starbucks. Grab us some lunch or something. What a jerk. What a fucking jerk.
It's no way anybody could've.
Yeah, no fucking way.
It's not possible.
It's not true.
How?
It's not possible.
It was real easy to say,
oh, the guy that they showed us trying to kill him.
Nah, but you don't think that.
But you don't think that.
We thought that they tackled him
and he went to prison.
I feel like my brain should've came up with that one.
Oh, it's the guy that they showed us already.
No.
Trying to merc this nigga. You would've never thought that. No, why? Because you that they showed us already. No. Trying to murk this nigga.
You would've never thought that.
No, why?
Because you wouldn't have a backstory
as to why he tried to kill him in the first place.
To me, that shouldn't have mattered.
And I would've thought they killed that guy.
I would've thought, yeah.
Or he's in prison for life.
I thought he was locked the fuck up.
Yeah, I thought he was locked up.
Which he was.
He was locked up, but he...
He got out of there.
Yeah, but we don't, we don't,
we never would even remotely have an inkling
that he would get out of there.
In prison break, he got out of there,
and that hunting show, they get out of there, an inkling that he would get out of there. In prison break he got out of there, in that hunting show they get out of there,
and on TV the guy gets out of jail.
On TV jail ain't as secure as they fucking may be.
The other guest with the lady, that was a better guest.
That was a good guest.
That was a better guest.
What did y'all think of the finale?
Come on, talk to me, talk to me.
What did y'all think?
When I was going too much into detail,
I didn't like it too tough.
I was very underwhelmed.
I liked it. Very underwhelmed. I remember when too much into detail, I didn't like it too tough. Same. I was very underwhelmed.
I liked it.
Very underwhelmed.
I remember when it first went off, I looked at the T.O.S. like damn, that was kind of
ass.
Were you underwhelmed because you didn't see, you didn't know that he would be the killer?
We were underwhelmed, if I could talk to both of us, because the fucking show Jump the Shark
in the first season.
Whoa, that's a little...
That's aggressive.
That's aggressive.
What does that mean?
Tell the people what Jump the Shark is. It's a TV term. That's aggressive. What does that mean?
It's a TV term we've broke this down at least six times
New listeners if you do not familiar with the term It basically means when a TV series plotline has gone from plausible because there's always you know a suspended state of reality
It's from happy dramatic effect. Yeah, so it goes from being plausible to completely ridiculous
What did you think was completely ridiculous about it?
And if you thought that up to episode seven it's been plausible.
Yeah.
No.
Because that could be deemed as completely ridiculous.
No, you're right.
And like I said, that's why I said suspend reality and just kind of understand that the show is a lot of dramatic effect is
Taken here a lot of liberties is taken so you do that, but then it's like
Okay, dudes in fucking jail happens to be in Colorado
Then there's a prison break and it's just like the timing is so short and for all of these tiny little
Variables to come into play he breaks out of fucking prison. It happens to get the guy
Walking down the street, you know
Checking IDs of people who are in cars and there's hundreds of thousands of cars
But he just happens to buck up on the two people that have clearance to go to paradise come
the fuck on
But the timing this it's just...
He was from the area, he was working there.
He tried to assassinate him there.
He wasn't from Colorado.
He was working on the thing.
He was working on the thing.
He was one of the creators of the thing.
He helped build it.
He was the manager.
He was the engineer.
He was the foreman.
You're right, you're right.
They locked him up in that jail.
Yes.
Cool, so when the jailbreak happens,
of course, if the world goes awry,
the motherfuckers that are in jail
are gonna try to break out.
That would happen next door.
If the world goes awry, he gets out,
everybody else on some run-a-muck shit,
he's an analytic, he sees the dude down there
with a badge, with a uniform, with all of those things,
I get out, I kill him.
I mean, I kill him, I take the knife out of his chest,
now I have a uniform that makes me look official.
Official and representable at that point.
Totally understand, and I see the purpose for it all,
but it just to me was-
And it wasn't hundreds of thousands of cars.
Did you see the aerial shots?
I saw it.
Of all those camp-
They wind around down there.
Winding down the mountain.
And he's going car by car like yo.
Finding someone with it.
And they like yeah, they got us going blah, blah, blah.
And that road might have been the road to.
Promise land.
Yeah.
I knew he was gonna kill the people.
Yeah, he killed the people.
And then the only.
And then he's coming out of like a convenience store
and just happens to find this woman
who's just sitting there.
It just.
That was one of my favorite parts. That was one of my favorite parts.
That was one of your favorite parts, because now...
You happen to be in the best spot that you could be of anyone in the world.
Right place, right time.
Yeah.
And it makes me look that much more representable because it was the librarian and his wife.
So now my wife and I are going to get on and makes it look, you know what I mean, like
more... You won't think that's not... Acceptable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now my wife and I are going to get on and makes it look, you know what I mean? Like more acceptable.
Yeah.
Like it's a husband and wife couple as opposed to just a single man coming on.
No, bring the wife and the family.
And then in addition to that, we look at the president's house or the former president's house.
He's got guards and so he just happens to know that he just happens to know that he's going to
get past
all the Secret Service agents and get up to this man's
bedroom and kill him?
Only two.
And it was off their guard.
Only two.
And they showed you that.
How would they know that?
You wouldn't know it.
In episode one, the guards were addicted to video games.
They play video games every day at 11 o'clock.
There's manholes in the security door all the time.
Every day at 11 o'clock.
But how would, he doesn't know that though.
How you know he's not stalking the house?
He might be stalking the house.
He's, cause he set his watch to exactly 11 o'clock.
If you see he was in the bushes,
his watch said 11 o'clock.
As soon as his wife said 11 o'clock,
he put his shit into play.
So at 11 o'clock, they always say that these two
stupid motherfuckers killed a security to play Wii in the fuck.
Yes.
So he might have been watching the house for a period of time.
Because to me, what made it less plausible is the daughter going with the girl.
The daughter should have died.
That is my only beef about the finale.
The daughter should have been gone when it looked like Jamie texted Natcha
and said, yo, it was done.
I don't know how, yeah, I don't know how she survived
and Jamie dropped her off and that.
Nah, she was lying to her, the whole shit.
I know, cause she had-
The lady was really crazy.
Jamie. Jamie. Jamie.
Jamie is really nuts.
So I'm confused-
Would you have popped her?
Popped Jane?
Yeah.
Popped her with Suda or popped her, fucked her?
No, no, no, fucked her.
If I was, huh?
Bill or anybody in there,
if you was the guy playing the Wii in there
and worked with Jane.
Yeah, you would fuck Jane.
Little goofy ass girl, you don't know she's nuts
cause she played the goofy role to the T.
Yo, niggas have to throw that line in the garbage.
We didn't know she was nuts.
Sometimes, sometimes you don't.
Sometimes you don't know it too.
Only sometimes, a lot of times we know.
Most times we know they nuts, right?
And we just be like, all right dog, that girl was playing,
you like girl was playing goofy very well.
She was.
When she poisoned that nigga, I said,
you said bring the biggest motherfucker.
The nuts bitches be having a good shit and abusive bitches.
Yeah.
You know what I keep saying? Y'all stop playing.
No, no, no.
Twice.
The bitches that's going to throw a lamp at you,
they'll be like, fire.
Right after too.
They just passionate, they passionate.
That's all it is.
That's what it is.
Okay.
Okay, but I was confused about the,
when Jane shoots her,
and then she walks up to Sinatra and she says,
he was gonna shoot you in the head.
I say, shoot you.
And she was like, you have a long road of recovery.
Where did she shoot? To where she didn't look like she shot her in the neck. No she was like, you have a long road of recovery. Where did she shoot?
To where she didn't look like she shot her in the neck.
No, because she's a Secret Service agent,
they don't really miss.
So I'ma shoot you bitch, I know you ain't gonna die.
Probably to the right of your heart somewhere.
That's what it looked like.
Yeah, it looked like it was a mission.
You not gonna die.
Okay.
You welcome,
because he was gonna shoot you in your fucking head.
He should have been shot.
And I need to make it look like you're gonna die.
Like I meant to kill you.
Yeah. Should have been shot in the head. Listen, I don't want us to delve too deep into this because I want to give people a chance to watch it even though we just unpacked everything for the most part. But I wasn't mad at the finale. I wasn't at all. For a quick eight episode run. And you got to figure that they didn't necessarily know for certain that there was going to be a season two. Exactly. That's right. That was a bit. And I think that again, I'm always looking for the other shit.
The overall theme. Yeah. I think that when he starts to tell him like, yo, Doug,
I started getting comfortable here. I thought that we had like a rebirth of potential for society.
And you same rich oligarch motherfuckers put us in prison and start doing the same exact things that y'all fucked up upstairs with,
that shit was monumental for me.
Him talking to homeboy, like the little subtle shit,
like when I'm watching shit,
I'll be looking at the shit away from the action.
You know what I mean, but go ahead.
All right.
But dog, that shit was monumental
when he was talking to him.
I agree with you.
Like y'all did this for Adam.
Shit like that, like, it was big.
And, and, trigger warning,
I ain't really like the Librarian's suicide jump.
That was kinda fly.
I didn't love it.
I thought it was like some,
nah, he should've been shot before then.
Like, his jump wasn't assertive at all.
He wouldn't, took that little chunk of that sky.
He did. Sure did.
And I don't think he should've jumped.
I wouldn't have shot him if I was them.
I would've shot him. If you were them. Hell yeah. Not in the head. Not me. He did. Sure did. And I don't think he should have jumped. I wouldn't have shot him if I was them. I would have shot him.
If you were them.
Hell yeah.
Not in the head.
Not me?
He'd have got shot.
That's what I'm saying.
You could shoot a nigga without killing him.
And he had the weapon in the library.
He should have definitely shot him.
He had the murder weapon in the glass case
in the library.
You could have shot him.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't think he should have shot him.
I think that we trying to get out of here.
So whatever information that you have
is more needed than not.
I wouldn't have shot him.
And after he sat there and told you why he did what he did,
it's the same journey that homeboy was on at that point.
We bringing down all the rich motherfuckers,
it was the same exact journey
that homeboy was on at that point.
So why not make him an ally instead of shooting him?
I enjoyed the episode. I also enjoyed uh in real life Sterling K Brown's wife doing uh uh she was
doing a watch reaction. Oh for real? Holy shit. So I like her. So when Sterling K Brown the wife is
watching like yo nigga that's all you had to that's that's what you said to stop her try to stop her from going to Atlanta
Like now I'm looking at you funny like what?
What if this was the real deal like tell your wife his real wife that's funny
It's watching this shit. No practice right now. Tell me how you could get me to not go to Atlanta because this shit's passive
No, that's it was absolutely
Like when Cal That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. nuclear bombs and just shut the world down and sets us back 500 years.
But I thought that was great.
I like that part.
Yeah, me too.
And I just chalked this up as one of those shows.
Sometimes you get shows where the finale is before the finale.
And that's what this was.
Like episode seven was their kabang.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now we just closing this up to get to the next season.
Into Parks' Point.
And if that happens, I remember everybody's reaction
after episode seven.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But again, to Parks' point, they might have had a whole
different episode eight.
Yeah, yeah.
And now we got to renew, we got to rewrite episode eight
to, you know what I mean, to open it up for the next season.
Overall, still a great show.
Yeah, still a great show.
Eight episodes, even if you didn't like the finale.
You can't be mad.
I'm not knocking the show at all.
Let's hit the round of applause for Sterling K. Brown,
everybody on the staff for Paradise, really good show.
It is made by the same guy as This Is Us, that makes sense.
Dan Fogelman.
Dan Fogelman, I see his style, man.
I see his style.
It's a good style.
You're good, boy.
You mad at that boy?
That boy is good.
Let's bring this right back, fuck that.
Yeah, I ain't mad at all.
I ain't mad at all. I ain't mad at all.
What else, what else out there is important or unimportant?
Y'all said Biggie's catalog is going up for sale?
It is, and his- 125 million.
Likeness and all that shit.
Wow.
With the likeness?
Yeah.
Is this, does this coincide with his mom's passing away?
That's what's weird about it to me.
Could be. That's what's weird about it to me. Could be.
That's what's weird about it.
It was announced literally, I think,
maybe a day after she passed.
Oh wow.
That's weird.
Wow.
I don't think that's weird.
Not weird at all.
It kind of flows together.
Makes sense.
The estate is in probate,
so now we gonna see what we can get.
I don't know.
Yeah.
You know.
And kids don't want it.
I was about to say I'm not picking
or knowing what his children have. His kids might not have much.
Nah, well don't do that.
You can have much and still want 100 million dollars.
Facts.
True, no I'm just saying, but if you got something,
then you might not immediately put it up for sale
the very next day.
You evaluate your options and you know what I'm saying,
assess what your financial situation is.
You're not gonna just throw it up for sale tonight.
Let's take this off Biggie.
Yeah, when you're gonna get.
We don't know about any of it.
Keep it a buck.
When y'all dying, young kids is getting rid of y'all.
A lot of times.
But that's why you.
Right away.
That's why you put things in place to prevent that.
That's not true, bro.
That's not true.
It's all contingent upon where you are financially.
My kids sellin' their shit out of my condo.
Oh. They ain't keepin' shit. My kids selling their shit out of my condo. Oh.
They ain't keep that shit.
They ain't put that shit out there.
Not if they got money up.
Especially Trey.
That nigga ain't beat for money?
I don't know if it's, that's where we differ.
I don't know if it's a beat for money thing.
But that's what y'all saying.
Y'all like, yo, immediately we gonna throw the,
I think Trey, I've known him since he was a kid.
Trey don't really be fazed by materialistic shit.
I don't think it's necessarily a money play.
When my grandma died and she gave me
whatever she gave me in Campbell's soup,
it made sense and it was a good investment.
Give me this shit the fuck out of here.
If you don't give me my seven grand,
whatever the fuck it was worth.
When was this?
My grandma died, I want to say 2011.
What was your financial? 2010, somewhere final 2010 today today you don't sell it
That's my point today now today you don't
But they do have a point you hear the stories about when a parent passes away,
our children sell off their assets.
True.
It's kiss them door to door.
This is why a lot of people put things in place
where they can't sell them.
True.
Like my father put in place some shit,
like, no, you and your brother.
No skits.
No, not at all.
You can't sell this, it needs to go down.
I didn't even know that was possible,
but at the time I didn't know it was possible.
Have you evaluated, have you had an evaluation done on your IPs?
Are you trying to be funny?
No. No.
That's a gross conversation.
No.
You should.
Yeah.
How much does your shit work?
I said it last week.
It was all right though.
I was in the ballpark.
What is IP?
Intellectual property.
What do you mean?
What do you mean, what is it?
Look, let's engage in this.
All the shit you ever came up with?
I have, no, I haven't had it evaluated, no.
I didn't think that you would
because we don't behave that way as the living.
But I'm learning now.
You should.
You should.
It's like, think of the artists that are selling the catalog.
Like I got it.
Right, like it has to be evaluated.
Let me see what my catalog is worth, just so I can know.
You ain't even having to sell it.
And what it will earn over the next four,
Over the next 10, 20 years.
When it'll be at its peak value, like.
See, I'm mad at that because I think,
because it's not my wheelhouse,
I think you could borrow against that catalog
as opposed to selling it, and I'm always a fan of that.
I'm always opposed, I'm always a fan of keeping the asset,
borrowing against the asset, generating more wealth
with the borrowed money, and giving it back. So now I just have way more assets as opposed to against the asset, generating more wealth with the borrowed money and giving it back.
So now I just have way more assets as opposed to selling the asset.
Like if you could sell it for 125, I could borrow 50 against it, take the 50 and make
it work.
I still got the catalog and more shit.
And you can pay back the service.
I'm always a fan of that.
Yeah, that's a level of financial sophistication.
And a tax gratification.
Right.
And a desire to grow financially.
A lot of these wealthy kids, like they just want to spend, they just want to spend the financial sophistication and a desire to grow financial.
A lot of these wealthy kids, they just want to spend,
they just want to spend the rest of their life
spending money.
And they like-
Think about after them.
Yeah.
You had your IPs evaluated, right?
Yeah, nigga.
It ain't a hard question, yes.
That slow ass answer.
Yes.
I just think it's dope.
You gotta do that for the state planner.
No, yeah, I understand.
Yeah.
I'm learning.
Do you got wills and insurance and stuff like that?
And everybody should get into that.
No, I don't have, no, I have insurance.
Again, I want to urge everybody
to get into their state planning too.
Everybody, yeah.
State planning, what's the shit my dad be preaching,
your PSA number for the cancer shit, what else?
What may I be preaching?
Health checks. Yo, listen, real screening. The audience? One may be preaching health checks. It's time.
The audience up here that listens to this
is too smart for me.
And I say that to say to go back around
because when I say I'm learning in real time,
they have a problem with that.
Like, oh, you're old.
I think that that's one of the greatest things about me.
That's amazing.
No, I think that.
I'm so comfortable in my skin.
We are OGs now.
Hold on, I'm comfortable in my skin
to learn that a lot of times in my life,
I just wasn't into certain things. No, but no, sometimes. Coming up here, I'm comfortable with my skin to know that a lot of times in my life I just wasn't into
certain things.
No, but no sometimes-
Coming up here-
I'm sorry man.
Sometimes your circle exposes you to things that you would have never been exposed to.
My mom was only, and I'm not trying to make it about myself, they don't like that neither.
My mom was only-
Holy shit, you learned that.
I got to get to the, fuck that, now I'll stay on and stop.
I got to get to the bag.
I came from nothing, I was poor,
and I don't wanna be poor again.
So if I can get 15,000 from doing this,
if I get 9,000 from doing a minute,
let me see how much I can get in the time.
And then, you know, your lifestyle,
you start spending more.
So coming up here is just learning different things
about how to navigate through the world of media.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And people don't understand that.
Like when you, when you, when you, it's, that's why I understand the story.
Sometimes when it's say like, it's predatory sometimes to give somebody
out the hood a big contract, the same thing.
Like if you don't have the information, it's not predatory, but it's crazy.
If I, if I, if I started YouTube, look at my account and within that year, I had
nothing, I'm living in my mom's basement, nothing, and within that year I had nothing.
I'm living in my mom's basement, nothing.
And then now, at the end of the year, I have 70,000.
And it's like, okay, there's something here.
So now you're seeing how you could double it
without the knowledge or the education.
So then you seclude yourself from the rest of the world.
I don't know about the podcast and financial shit.
I don't know about that.
I just thought of it.
What's my man named?
And being in Vest Fest every year,
the billionaire black dude Robert Smith. Robert Smith. I just thought of it. What's my man named? Being at Investfest every year, the billionaire black dude,
Robert Smith.
Robert Smith, I seen a clip with him yesterday.
He was like, don't y'all know the word capital,
the root word, capital is Latin, and it means information.
I was like, oh, should be cooking now.
I think that we frown upon people learning.
No, he was going crazy.
And you know what, and they demonize it.
I think we frown upon people learning in real time or teaching in real time.
I think everybody wants to come off as this knowledgeable person.
No one knows.
I think it's wack.
I think that vulnerability is a strong vulnerability, bro.
Well, to me...
But I'm telling you, it's not a vulnerability for you not to know something and openly admit
it.
But how many people say that?
But you're being vulnerable to say it in public.
True. How many people say it publicly? They're being vulnerable to say it in public. How many people say it publicly?
They wanna know everything.
When y'all be talking, I write my notes.
I go home like, oh shit.
And I start Googling the shit.
Yeah, ain't that vulnerability.
I love to hear them niggas talk.
Like, again, certain people, Dame, 50, Jay, even Irv,
rest in peace, a lot of times when niggas talk,
they'll be saying some shit and you be like.
Yeah. Like Flip saying, Robert Smith, fucking Don Peebles. Them niggas talk, they'll be saying some shit and you'll be like. Yeah.
Like Flip saying, Robert Smith, fucking Don Peebles.
Them niggas be talking that shit.
You'll be like, oh, okay.
You know what you're supposed to know.
What does that mean?
I disagree.
Yeah, I totally disagree with that.
Yeah.
I totally disagree.
What does that mean?
His mind is so crazy.
Like, I don't know.
Crazy like.
It means that the world is designed
and there's levels in it, right? So we look at the NYCHA niggas,
the niggas that's in the NYCHA apartment housing
in fucking in New York.
Like there's certain sectors of the world
that they're not gonna allow you to have access to.
And as you progress and as you get the tools to level up,
there will always be levels above you
that you have no knowledge on at all.
You know what you're supposed to know
for where you are in that moment in time,
for what you make, for all of our past, right?
Like sometimes in the morning, I stand on my balcony
and I'll stare over at Billionaire's Row
and just be like...
How?
Like you don't ask yourself how?
Not really the how, right?
But it's not for me right now.
Whatever that is for that point of view,
even though it's not far from here, right?
Like I've said before, where I live,
I can step on a balcony and see Spanish Harlem.
From right here, we can see Spanish Harlem. We're probably across from Harlem, right?
But the people over there, as close as it is in proximity,
it's a different POV.
But Billionaire's Row is a lot of generational wealth.
That's pretty much all it is.
I don't assume that.
I don't assume that neither.
I don't assume that.
Not today.
Not today, there's people out there.
There's too much tech money today, you know?
A lot of them didn't come from money.
True, but the majority, I would say that the majority
of the population of Billionaire's Row is,
it's not new money.
It is generational wealth.
So do you think?
Sorry, guys, I'm sorry.
So when people categorize,
they call this right here.
The Gold Coast. The Gold Coast, right? So they say all
this is new money. They refer to all of us as new money, like this is new money.
And the Edgewater, Fort Lee, Weehawken area, we've been here for 20 years. 15
minutes away from here, niggas didn't know this shit existed.
Yeah.
Literally 15 minutes away from here, people did not know that this shit existed.
This used to be my date spot.
And people that lived 10, 15 minutes from here didn't know it existed.
Rest in peace to the multiplex.
What the fuck are you talking about?
I used to go.
I think that when Joe, I disagree with Joe when he be like,
yo you need, because I think if you don't put information
in your brain, you become complacent
and you'll never scale up.
Do you think that it's designed for us to be comfortable
in whatever situation that we're in?
Thousand percent.
Yes.
Because it's like, you hear the rare stories,
a rarity for someone to say, that's not really rare,
but I want to go out and find more information, so I'm going to take the steps
by spending my last to find it.
If I have to lose this apartment or lose my apartment,
and I've seen somebody in NYCHA,
I want to go out there and find the information.
I have to struggle to find it so I can go to the next level,
but a lot of people don't want to take that chance.
I don't think it's designed like that.
I think complacent and comfortability
is just a human thing. Why would you think it's designed like that? If you're
staying in the project building, rent is cheap, you're able to get, you get no
disrespect to anyone, you're able to get food stamps and then the money that you
make from work or on the side you pocketed and spend could fund your
lifestyle that you're trying to show the world, that's comfortability. I don't have
to do that much.
I can stay in here.
I'm not willing to learn anything.
There's a process on how I'm achieving it
and I'm getting it.
Do you understand what I mean?
Yeah, I do.
I think that growth is uncomfortable.
I think people only grow when there's uncomfortability.
That's one.
So, were things designed to keep us in a certain space?
Yes, but I don't think that those designs,
today a library card is free
because you like people give they last.
So information is around you free.
We got the internet, we look at bitches all day on the gram.
We look at our, what you call it, page?
For you, I'll go you page.
Yeah, the for you page, and all of that shit
is based on what you spend your time watching.
If you start watching financial shit,
it's gonna keep feeding you financial shit.
That shit is free.
A lot of times, escaping these traps is free.
So I don't think that, maybe it was designed
in yesteryear to trap us, yes.
But today, I just think motherfuckers become, okay.
But the trap is inside your mind.
Like you have to have the where,
you have to have the wherewithal to seek that information,
and also to try to seek different relationships.
Like if you're the smartest one in your circle of five,
then you need a new fucking circle.
So me and Joe stand, me, Joe and Corey,
stand on total opposites.
This is one of our biggest fights.
We stand on total opposites.
I believe that, they believe that people got their foot on your neck.
I totally am against that theory, right?
I believe that if you want to grow and if you want to succeed, you can.
I don't believe that nobody can stop you from becoming Robert Smith.
I hate when you do that.
I do.
I hate when you do that though.
Why?
Because I'm on both sides of that.
Because one day I'm on the gate to other.
Yeah, but I'm on both sides.
Yeah, but have you saying that they're stopping you
from doing something?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
See, but that's you misinterpreting
what we be saying.
We don't be saying people are stopping us from doing something.
We never, you never hear me talk like that.
They just put certain things in place to prevent you
from doing something.
I'm just not aware of all of the obstacles
that are in place for me versus someone else.
They don't say it's impossible.
I'm never preaching that message.
What if somebody put an obstacle in front of you
and this is your dream, right?
If we talk about from the media game,
what if it's like you have all the qualifications,
the people are interested in you,
the person is interested in you to do something
and then somebody who was higher or in the same field
that you in put an obstacle in front of you
to prevent you from getting that.
They just throw a monkey wrench.
What's my course of action?
Your course of action is to either go somewhere else
or find another way through it,
but what if the obstacle is so,
there's a lot of times you hear people in a media game,
it's called black bowling and gatekeeping, that is real.
Oh yeah.
That is a real thing.
I've gotten all that.
Like you right there, you can have the conversation,
and this is why they say from a kid,
don't share all your information until the deal is signed
or don't, whatever that slogan is.
But people put up roadblocks-ish.
And then now what do you do?
Do you change your course of action?
Do you go into a new field?
I got two names, Jay-Z and 50 Cent.
50 Cent got blackballed.
Okay.
The niggas that was blackballing him
admitted numerous times, yes, I was blackballing a nigga.
Purposefully.
50 Cent is worth a couple hundred million dollars.
So either you're gonna circumvent the blackball,
you're gonna keep trying, you're gonna go through it,
whatever the case may be,
but I believe if you got persistence,
you could get around it.
But 50 Cent was blackballed, no disrespect,
50 Cent was blackballed not by someone in that office.
Not by a-
That's not true.
Irv was in those offices.
Irv told me that direct.
Irv was in those offices and had their ear.
Jarroul was in Cottage Fish Creek.
I think what Griff is saying is 50 is blackballed
in one little corner in one sector.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
The foot on neck theory that we talking about
speaks to systemically abroad.
Yes.
Not just one aspect of something.
Cool, but at that particular point in time,
that was his world.
That was the only world that he knew
that he could get out of the-
But he wasn't gonna go make TV shows in 2002.
Yeah, he wasn't gonna go write a book.
Like in 2001, 2002, 2003, this is his world.
You know what I'm saying?
This is the world that I know that could get me out
the jungle of Queens, that I could go to put some food
on the table for my family.
And that's back to my point.
Because that was his world and he was a megastar
in his world, he gained an access and was privy
to things and people and info and resources and networks that other people are not
Because he's a genius post black boy. He took that
That wasn't pre black ball. He gained that access after he fought through the mix tape 50 before get rich comes out
He's got a little music black ball is a dot on the piece of paper now
But he still had to fight wasn't a doctor. They're megastar. It wasn't a dot on the piece of paper. Now. But he still had to fight through that to become a megastar.
It wasn't a dot then, Joe.
That shit was a big-ass circle.
That he was fighting his ass off to get through.
If that's the only world you can see.
True.
I think that he is greater than that
and saw more than that.
If that's the only world you can see,
then yes, that black ball is insurmountable.
But he still had to get through that black ball
because he made it in that world.
The world where they tried to blackball him in.
He didn't go somewhere else.
You got the clue to get to the next clue.
We gonna do the escape room.
Some of them clues, you'll get to one early.
You can't do that until you figured out the other clues
that line up to that clue.
We know the story.
Yeah.
The 50 Cent story.
Em was listening to the mixxtape on the airplane.
It just landed in his lap.
Whatever the case may be, from what I heard, I might be wrong.
But dog, again, that's just me keep making mixtapes.
I say, yo, these niggas is blackballing me, I'ma quit.
I'ma keep doing what I'm doing and doing what I'm doing and doing what I'm doing.
I'ma be resilient.
I'ma be persistent.
I'ma not take no for an answer.
But see, I think that's where-
So that was-
Wait, wait, wait.
Sorry, I'm so sorry.
No, go ahead bro.
You got blackballed from the industry,
but then you captured the air of the streets.
So? Right?
So when you capture the air of the streets,
the noise from the public, it-
Overrides.
It overrides it, and on top of that,
not included of getting shot, not a time surviving.
Like, it's so many things that happen in that situation
that play into big role.
All are based on persistence and resilience.
But that's what makes this system,
this me to systemic stuff so important to acknowledge
because part of it is there's roadblocks.
And then part of it is figuring out
how to get around those roadblocks.
But part of it is if you've been come up,
if you come up in a system where you don't even,
you're not even given permission to think
about those alternatives as real,
that's what makes it difficult.
That's one of the biggest things.
That's one of the biggest things.
I'll use myself as an example.
Let him land.
I'll use myself as an example.
And like, even at this stage in my career
or earlier in my career, it was like,
get a TV show, get a TV show, host a TV show, host a TV show.
And it wasn't until I got lucky and got to a better agency,
WME, that they were like, why the fuck do you keep trying
to get hired as our TV host?
Why don't you make a show?
Like, why don't you create a show?
But that wasn't something I even knew was a possibility.
So, but in that case,
it wouldn't have been a lack of persistence.
It wasn't like I was afraid to get a show or didn't.
I didn't know that that was a thing.
I didn't know it was a thing you could do.
But other people are taught from day one,
go make your own shit.
True. You know what I mean?
And then I meet people like Joe and stuff and it's like,
oh wait, why the fuck do you need a TV?
Fuck TV, right?
But there are people who are miles ahead of this
who I don't get to meet
because I don't have access to that information.
Yeah, that's true, but I think that's life.
Yeah, but I think it's designed.
It ain't life for everybody.
It's organized that way so that some people
do know that stuff and other people don't.
Mark, would you say when you got black,
because you was a black boy from television.
Still am. Would you say when you got black, because you've been the black boy from television. Still am.
Would you say when you got black boy from television
that you had no other choice but to pursue other options?
I already had four or five other things going.
I still sold books, I still spoke on the street.
But I still can't get on TV.
You know what I mean?
I still, there's a war in the Middle East
and I'm one of the leading experts on this topic,
and I can't get on TV about it.
This is a complete sidebar, I'm sorry,
but I really actually wanted to,
like when we were talking about Oscars,
you saw what the documentary was
that won.
So it was a Palestinian and an Israeli
director who kind of came together,
and they're winning the Oscar for this documentary.
And you know why you all haven't seen it? Because it's not distributed anywhere. It's not on Apple TV.
It's not on Amazon. It's not on Netflix. With all due respect, that's important.
I don't want to take away from where Mark was with the I'm Black Ball.
Okay, put a pin in that.
Yeah, I had other ways to go
because I was already far enough along.
But if that had happened,
if that was my entry point into this business,
if that had happened in 2005,
I wouldn't be doing anything.
Y'all wouldn't know me.
You might not have recovered.
You might not.
I'd be teaching public school,
which is a great thing.
That depends on the person though, bro,
because sometimes people get that roadblock
in front of them and say,
yo, I'm determined, I'm going to make this regardless.
All right, cool, y'all not letting me get in over here.
I'm going to make y'all want me in over here.
This is the only thing I say in response.
Yes, that's true.
I just don't want, I think the danger of that approach
is just that it means that anybody who doesn't get
where 50 gets or anybody who doesn't get to this other place,
we see it as a lack of determination
or a failure to persist.
And that's my only problem with that.
And we don't look to the system
that makes that impossible for most people.
50 Cent is a genius.
Like, yeah, I don't look at every blind,
Southern, Jim Crow nigger and be like,
why don't you beat Ray Charles, right?
Like, even if you're decent at the pin,
like you have to be so extraordinary
to get past some of this stuff.
And I don't look at everybody who didn't,
like, why the fuck you need to do a Ray Charles?
Exactly.
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
It's almost like the idea that if you don't reach
the pinnacle of success as a black person,
then you've failed.
That's all we have, it's either or.
And it's like, I agree with you.
It's a dangerous sentiment.
To clear it, yeah.
Preserverance comes with, and it's gonna sound crazy,
you end up draining yourself out in the long run.
So while we're talking about this,
and it's good to be, you know,
to go out and get it,
because I agree with Ish,
no one can stop anything, I'm gonna go get it,
but when you sit down with yourself
and you have to analyze that,
it's causing a wear and tear on you mentally and physically.
Emotionally, absolutely.
Emotionally, now you're trying to question things,
why is it like that?
What did I do wrong?
What can I do better?
So yeah, it's good to persevere,
but sometimes you have to take a chance
and that's it, I'll leave it at that for me.
Oh, don't end it when I'm about to pull up a song
to clown you.
Nah, you can't do that.
I'm about to say, I think y'all kept going
being motivational, I was gonna pull up a song.
You can't do that.
That was fire, that was fire.
I got you beat, I appreciate that.
We appreciate your teamwork.
That was absolutely fire.
You cold? You all right? Yes, I'm that. I appreciate that. We appreciate it. Teamwork. Absolutely fire. You cold? You all right?
Yes, I'm cold.
The air in here, they be doing some weird shit
where they put it on.
It was at 68 five minutes ago.
Your blood start flowing slow when you get old, right?
I don't know motherfucker, you tell me,
you older than me.
Man, what it all mean?
You need to keep that elevated?
I do.
Okay, somebody give him a fucking foot stool.
I don't trust you.
I ain't no boss that's coming after that.
I'm not even playing with men like that no more.
Nah, I'm playing with men.
I'm not playing with men like that no more.
What? I don't know.
And you get a salute.
You get a salute from me.
Thank you.
Me too.
Like, the dedication and shit that you put
into your health and your body, I ain't joking.
No, that shit is different.
Thank you.
I ain't gonna joke with you. But look, you know Cory. She do I ain't joking. No, that shit is different. Thank you. I ain't gonna joke with you.
But look, you know Cory.
Should do it for different reasons.
No, you know Cory beyond his bullshit.
Muscles.
That nigga was out there.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
The cardio's different.
Cardio is different.
Yo, go ahead over there Mr. Squat.
Go ahead over there nigga.
I was trying to post Cory up and feel some body.
That nigga wouldn't let me feel it pause.
Look at ya.
That nigga kept backing up,
trying to pull a chair from under me get over here
Somebody get your little athletic ass over here
Wait what he's a disgusting
Body on the post on the post on the post
How many know where I'm going if I don't feel your body
That's why Imani was trying to kill you.
Imani tried to injure me for good.
I don't know what I did to him.
I thought that was one of my better mans, but.
Nigga, now I got an ego.
He just knows that you're an aggressive basketball player,
so he's trying to meet your aggression.
Hey yo, you really,
yo, Imani called the offensive foul.
He did, he screamed.
In the street game.
What?
Off ball. And I rolled with him too. I was like, yep. Yo. He called the offensive foul
Off the front he was fronting me he was front. Yeah, he was front me. They threw it over the top I called on he called off
Yo, I never seen such a bitch and pick up best bitch and pick up ball
Yeah, my man got the tattoo of the mic of his neck. Of his name? Yeah, he got his whole, he got a whole,
those type of mic, what's that again?
You took LLJ?
Imani played like a Puerto Rican,
the Puerto Ricans that got all the energy
and wanna come out and run around
and hit you and fucking do all that.
Imani was wilding, bro.
Yeah, you not invited next time, I ain't gonna lie.
He, he, he, he.
Yeah, he did good though.
Spanish niggas do burpees all day.
And then my guy D-Did came over to me in the second game,
whispered to me, said, you know, we need you.
Don't stick him.
He's just running around, saving energy.
I said, oh, that's a good idea.
I took Corey.
Corey wasn't doing shit.
That's why I got Corey the first game.
Mark sticks Corey the first game.
Mark sticks Cory the first game so they could double.
And I'm like, Cory, cut to the basket.
Cory's like, I ain't going nowhere.
Cory right on the three-point line.
Then when I was sticking Parks, I was in a good mood because we both smokers.
It's like, all right.
And then Parks got hurt.
It's like, oh, no.
Put the young boy in. And then it brought in Klay it's like, oh no. But the young boy.
And then it brought in Klay Thompson.
22 year old came in.
24.
24.
The young boy with a J like water.
From the Indian reservation.
Yeah, good head.
Fuck him.
Stocky nigga, fuck outta here.
I was like, I'm just gonna keep fouling.
Who was he, he was y'all people?
No, he was with Erickson.
Erickson man.
Shout out to him.
I was watching him in the pre-game.
He was like, he was doing drills and shit. He came to the team, Erickson man. Shout out to him. I was watching him in the pre-game, he was making, he was doing drills and shit.
I said, oh you played Juco?
Nigger, Erickson, other man, six, seven, jumpers.
Julian.
Yeah, Julian, yeah.
Julian.
Yeah, I played, oh he.
He played Wringers.
Yeah, yeah, I played NIA.
Next time we do this, the people I invite to be subs
are gonna be like people that play basketball.
Yeah.
Not us who had no business out there.
Oh, no, no, I don't think, I think we gotta have non-athletic gray hairs. It gotta Not us who had no business out there. Oh, no.
I don't think, I think we gotta have
non-athletic gray hairs.
It gotta be all the same.
Exclusively.
You can make a thing out of that.
No, we just gotta do it like we told Buck.
Yo, we not doing that.
And Buck was holding it.
He was holding it back.
He was holding it back for sure.
He shot a couple jumpers,
but Adam shit's hitting that.
So we had a point game.
We out-mounted dying.
Buck grab a rebound right under the rim
Don't put it up. I said buck
Being modest you just put it in dog point game to go 30 minutes
It probably was realistically only six minutes, but it felt like 30
11-5 for like the things that they're gonna say about us
when this is published.
Oh my God.
They're gonna kill us.
This is gonna be hilarious.
See, you know what?
They're gonna kill me and Mark probably the most.
Oh please, me too.
I thought they had no shirt on.
No, because I talked the most shit.
You were scoring.
I was pregnant.
You was, but you were scoring.
I was pregnant out there.
You scored all the points.
Don't matter.
No, it matters.
Look at me.
I need to know how you did,
because you was talking a lot of shit. Actually, I wasn't talking a lot of shit, but I was responding to him talking shit. You're the reason this is happening. No, no, that Look at me. I need to know how you did, because you was talking a lot of shit.
Actually, I wasn't talking a lot of shit,
but I was responding to him talking shit.
You're the reason this is happening.
No, no, that's not what happened.
But I'll let that go.
It started with me and Ish saying something,
and he said, y'all two can't play no ball.
Let's go play ball.
That's how it started.
Right, but you was talking a lot of shit about your game.
You were talking a lot of shit.
You talked a lot of shit.
I'm just saying I didn't start this shit.
But it's fine.
I think that, Joe, you can make this a thing, yo.
No, honestly, I really wish I had heard my phone.
I would have really been ready to go out there in two weeks.
Yeah, I mean, I would play again.
I'm playing again.
I'm ready.
I just need to work.
When summer breaks, what I did think about
was bringing back the kickball tournaments.
Yes.
Like back in the day, during the summer,
I used to wake up at like eight and tweet a park.
Yo, meet here at noon, kickball.
And all the fans would come.
She was lit.
That sounded like fun.
She was lit.
Kickball is fun.
Kickball was the shit.
Heard yourself playing that now too.
You don't have to be Kobe Bryant in the kickball.
Like you could play at your physicality.
My man was training for the marathon.
He tore his calf playing fucking,
it was either baseball or kickball, softball,
one of them just hit the base.
But the kickball was only lit.
When the Yamines showed up.
Hey, hey, hey.
Oh, can you?
I'm lying.
That's right.
Them first kickball games.
That's not true.
That's not true.
That's not true.
You weren't around for the first ones.
Them first kickball games.
Kickball is fun, whether the yamines
or the non-yamines.
Actually, my favorite kickball is
when one of them fucking six-four fucking,
I forgot what he was, niggas would show up
and we would pick him on our team.
I was looking for him every kickball match.
Like, nigga, come outside.
The yamines.
What I meant, I don't know. Ryan grant beaming niggas in the head
Home and think that your days like meeting women is over. Yes
Every day I just go Instagram. That's it. I like looking at him. No, that's a
Don't even do that. No, I don't do that. I love my damn. I'm addicted to them. I don't even do that no more. I don't do that. No, I love my thing.
I'm done with Instagram.
They all liars.
I don't care.
They all liars.
I'm not trying to talk to you.
I'm not getting, yeah, I don't care.
I'm just looking.
I think he means the picture is a lie.
I don't care.
Okay, all right, fine.
I don't care.
Hey, she a liar in the club too.
Good point.
I'm a liar in the club.
And I don't care long as them heels don't, you know what I mean?
Toes don't come over the hill
Right this nigga really will zoom in on anything. Um, that is hell. I do that too though. I do the zoom in. Yeah. Yeah. This is important.
It's important. You know what I was laughing at? With respect,
with respect, I was telling my girl,
I said, yo man, no, no, I met Mark wife.
I'm gonna ask that nigga to do pod wise. Like she's a professor, man, now that I met Mark's wife, I'm gonna ask that nigga to do Powerwides.
Like she's a professor, mad smart, mad cool,
mad funny, sense of humor, fucking got along with everybody.
I was like yo, I don't know why we always make it seem
like our girl at home is the ball and chain,
even though they be cool.
I never said she was, that's what y'all always say. Why would we get around on niggas? You would say it without saying it. the ball and chain even though they be cool.
I never said she was, that's what y'all always say.
Y'all is acting a curfew.
You say it without saying it.
I'll say that shit.
You say that shit, dog.
You say it without.
Niggas girls is cool.
We talk like we gotta get the fuck away from them.
We do.
Why do we do that?
That's part of that ego, just pride painting a picture thing.
It's something that's there, yo.
Niggas definitely do it though.
Mark took a break to go kiss his wife.
He said he had an eye injury.
Mark ran to the side and got some sugar.
And it made him feel better.
Something in my eye.
I went in there, I said, yeah nigga, oh, it is your eye.
I had a few fake injuries that just catch my eye. I went there I said yeah nigga, old age is in your eye.
I had a few fake injuries that just catch my breath. Shhh don't say nothing.
Yo this counts for like heaven.
I tried to guard Armani full court.
Yeah that nigga looked like a jumping bean.
But y'all was playing full court.
No, no. I have to look at that.
I'm saying I picked like, no, no, no.
Yo so Mark got an ego. Mark got an ego.
And Mark is my genius. That's what started this. I'm saying I picked it like we, no, no, no. I picked them up. You picked them up at the top. Mark got an ego. Mark got an ego.
And Mark is my chief.
That's what started this.
I'm telling you.
He called himself the touch ball,
picking Imani up 94 feet up there by the half court line.
The very next play, I think was finished.
I was done.
That was all my energy for the rest of the day.
The next play, yo, he was finished.
I was done for the next five possessions, man.
Done, so I was hollering like, yo.
That's all I had.
I was like, then you start thinking like,
shit, in my 20s I could do this every possession.
Now I can't do that shit.
I can do that once a day.
It's over.
I have, I do have a bit of bad news to report.
They are reporting that Rafael Sadeek's brother,
Dwayne Wiggins, Tony Tony Tony is receiving hospice.
Y'all know Dwayne.
Dwayne.
Yeah.
You know Dwayne.
None of them name was Tony.
That was one of the funny things with the group.
Right.
God.
Oh, this is the other age shit, man.
We was young.
Our favorites got like killed in gunfire and random shit.
Now they die from like health shit.
Yeah, bro, we old.
Yeah, damn.
Sending strength to them, to Rafael Cedica and the rest of them.
Yeah.
I was in bed last night, Chris Cross, I was like,
I can't believe I'm gonna die one day.
I'm still not over the concept.
I just don't want it to hurt.
He's right.
I just don't want it to hurt. Know what right. I just don't want it to hurt.
Know what I'd be looking at?
Say the same shit?
My daughter.
When I'd be looking at my daughter,
I'd be like, damn, it's gotta live.
Yeah, it's a point where I could possibly not be here.
And that shit fucks me up.
And you got young kids.
I think that shit be fucked.
The kids make you think you gotta live
or that you gotta die.
Live, live, live.
Especially what I saw, like with my uncle that passed.
Interesting.
When his daughter was 10 months old and he dies.
Yeah, why you think that?
Cause that's what it means.
The cycle of life.
It don't mean you gotta live.
No.
It means you gotta die.
No, no, no.
A constant reminder.
No, when we say that it means I have to live for her.
Focus on your heart.
I have to let my daughters know what these niggas be doing.
Unnecessary stress.
If I shoot the club up tomorrow
and have a beautiful, beautiful child tomorrow at 44,
probability says I may not see that child hit 35.
Yeah, that's true.
I'm not stressing myself with,
damn, I won't see my child at 36 or 37.
I could be cool at 35.
No, I think what you're saying is you wanna be here
for as long as you can with your kids.
No, and you wanna maximize that time
that you are here with them.
That's what I just said.
But look, if I got 35 years out of here.
Oh, quality of life you're talking about.
Yes. Yes, yes.
If I got 35 years out of now.
Got it, I understand what you're saying.
And not for nothing, this only been three days.
It resonated. What has only been three? They can't tell you. No, the injury, I'm saying the injury this only been three days, it resonated.
What has only been three days?
The injury, I'm saying the injury has only been three days, so dog, every morning we got like a routine.
So my girl wakes up earlier than me. My girl goes downstairs taking a shower.
You don't mind? You let your girl wake up before you?
Go to bed at like two, three o'clock every day.
But anyway, right, so you go to bed at nine o'clock. I'm doing paperwork at nine o'clock.
Anyway, yo, listen, let me finish my story.
So my girl wakes up, she goes, cooks lunch.
My job is to bring my daughter downstairs,
start getting her dressed.
My foot is fucked up.
So I couldn't, you know what I'm saying?
I couldn't do that.
So it was like, damn, small shit like that
that you might take for granted.
Now I can't do it.
So now me getting injured puts more stress on my girl
to have to do all of that shit for my daughter.
And I was like that, I apologize like 50 times.
Yeah.
Yeah, my bad.
I'm sorry.
You thinking I'm fucking Superman.
I got some breakfast in bed off my injury.
I got some breakfast in bed off my injury.
I was like.
So now like small shit like that.
Yo, you just like, yo, you got,
you got to kind of be here for your kid.
35?
If I get 35, I've given you enough game.
Hold on, you...
That's how I feel about my older kids, yeah.
If I do wanna get to 35, both of them,
I've given them enough game that I could possibly give them.
Atlantic City trip is not worth no coochie.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know what that means.
It's a joke, you ain't ever see the meme? No, I understand the joke. When they be like, yo, I'm taking my kids around the world. I understand the joke. I don't know what that means.
It's a joke.
You ain't ever seen a meme?
No, I understand the joke.
When they be like, y'all taking my kids around the world, see a little dusty ass son can't
take her to Atlantic City and get no goot.
You never seen a meme?
I just shut up when you girl dance, get to talking.
I mean, sometimes when I lay down, I think I'm like, damn, one day I'm-
No, because I never, no, no comment.
We don't never hear that side of the girl that, nah,'s true, it ain't worth it girl, don't go.
I be thinking that one day I'm not gonna be here.
Don't hear the other side.
Yeah, it's because, come on.
For all the bitches y'all slid,
for all the lies that you've told,
for all the tricks, the maneuvers, late night runs.
You ask me how many of them dad was there for?
Did I say you asked me how many of them dad was there for? No, I didn't ask you that at all
Okay, I just say when you take it all into account. So you try say it's gonna happen back to our children. Wait, hold up
for all of the tricks you've
You've done. Mm-hmm. And
At this present point in time and with a universe and the planets aligned, y'all
doing great.
Like y'all don't think God is spinning at no time?
No.
Got it.
Nope.
I don't think I know what you're talking about.
Karma.
Karma.
Yeah, fuck outta here, nigga.
Nobody, we gonna try our best to prevent it.
So let me ask you a question. We gonna try our best to prevent it. So you think that all of the issues. Come on, yeah fuck out of here, nobody
You think that He wanna laugh loud, let him do it. Let him do it. Yeah, go play something, that's right. Hey!
Hahaha!
Hahaha!
Hahaha!
Why you think I'm laughing?
No, it's not funny.
Hahaha!
Haha!
Hey!
Hey! It's the thug in me trying to find the dude. You went and had the moves. What you had to see.
It's the thug in me.
It's the thug in me.
Yo.
Why would you think niggas be?
And the future thugs?
Chill out.
Why would you think niggas be?
They got my kids at Bally's.
Oh my God.
Nobody wants their daughter to deal with a nigga like her.
Like I wouldn't want my daughter to deal with a nigga like me.
I try to prevent her from dealing with a nigga like me.
That is a revelation.
I don't want her to do that.
She serves better.
How you going to prevent her?
I'm a better father.
Because we do go for men that remind us of our fathers.
Yeah, I don't want that.
I don't want that.
She's not going to.
His daughter don't see that side of him.
Her daughter didn't see that side of him.
So I try to avoid.
Who knows what she's seen?
She don't see that side of him.
Who knows what she's seen?
You'd be surprised the shit that kids see.
Cool.
How cool do you think you can from them?
Cool, but I put the best face on for my children.
Right.
I believe you.
And I'm very upfront and I'm communicative.
Yo, I was doing this shit at your age.
Yo, watch the boys that's trying to even ask you for anything.
Watch them niggas, because this is what I was doing.
I'm very straight up with her and I let her know, because if you participate in that,
first of all, it's all to make you look crazy
It's gonna break my heart two things. I try to do manipulative. Yeah, you have to
If I definitely tell my daughter
I've made a page on my space called pops on blast nigga. That shit was all open like the shit I was doing
You swallow. Okay. I was wildin. I don't want that shit my daughter to go through that play a fucking music
Nigga, you it but you have your daughter
I'm gonna fuck you up wait till you have your daughter you have twin girls nigga
twin Indian daughters nigga my
Fuck that guy
Still rules that I should have but I met that nigga in that car and he's so drunk
But I met that nigga in that car and he sold drugs He could be 54, he could be 10
I grew up with all the love from dad
But I left with this dude who was in his bag
And papa tried to help, but I sucked his dick
Then I went home.
You can take him to day flip.
You can take him to day flip.
That was really good on the fly.
That was solid freestyling right there.
You think that's funny?
You singing that about your niggas?
And he's so drunk.
Who the fuck you talking about?
Get the fuck out of here with that. He is not talking about me. I don't know what the fuck he talking about. He get the fuck out of here with that.
He ain't talking about my daughter.
He is not talking about this one.
He said whatever the fuck he want.
At least let the hook get to it.
You gotta stop.
Now for real, what y'all think this song is about?
I don't know, I never heard it before.
Please.
Hey.
What'd you say to Madone? What'd you say to Dad? I'm free, I'm in trouble, fuck my dog, I'm with you.
What'd you say to him, Adon?
What'd you say to Dad?
I made up my mind.
I'm keeping my baby.
She keeping that shit.
She keeping her baby.
You dead ass, man.
I fucking love this song.
You joining this nigga.
That's a slap.
That's a slap.
You know me and the 80s music,
as soon as it plays, white 80s music,
I can't help myself. I'm gonna be the adult in the room for a minute and say that we have created some me in the 80s music. As soon as it plays, white 80s music, I can't help myself.
I'm going to be the adult in the room for a minute
and say that we have created some tension in the room.
How?
Y'all seem bothered by this.
I don't give a, I'm ignoring that shit.
They ain't paying me no money.
You look irritated.
I'm balling the money.
He texts his daughter and shit.
They ain't paying me no money.
I'm not paying that nigga no money.
OK, then we good.
Yeah, we're great, I promise.
You look irritated.
I am, okay.
Hey, listen.
Cause he be around my kids, he be around them,
they come a bit and they look at him.
That shit don't stop with girls?
It don't.
Family issues don't stop with girls?
Clean up.
No, I'm telling you, like that shit don't matter.
But you know what it is, a lot of times dudes
be more hype about, like no dude that I know
is that upset about their son getting in some wild shit
It's the way they are. It depends on wild shit got levels. That's true. That's true. Wild shit got levels
But like nobody's like oh my son's 15 eating pussy
No, I'm just saying a lot of people don't talk I'm not saying they write it wrong. Your son 15 hunk come home sucking dick
Then what? I mean wouldn't bother me. Fathers dudes. You always make it gay. people don't talk, I'm not saying they write it wrong. When your son 15 come home sucking dick, then what?
I mean, it wouldn't bother me.
Fathers do.
You always make it gay.
We don't care.
Right.
If he's gay, he's gay.
We don't care.
You always try to make us trans.
I mean, I'm not trans.
It's not about homophobic.
But nobody wants to think about their daughter
being out there at 16, 17, 15, doing anything, nigga.
So don't think about that.
No, but when you fucking highlight and then play music and look at me in my eyes, doing anything, nigga. So don't think about that.
No, when you fucking hollering and playing music
and looking me in my eye like I was.
I think it was the freestyle.
Yeah.
It was the pop freestyle.
Roll one like that.
He's so drunk.
You're looking at you, you're on some jokes.
The shit that you do, you sell ass for this shit.
For your joint.
The shit you do on this camera, I'ma get you.
I think it was the second to take part in it.
This nigga ruffled the feathers.
I mean, entertaining, but in all reality,
we know he don't feel this way in reality,
but it's just cool.
No, he might.
He might.
Also, while we're talking about Madonna telling her dad
that she wants to keep the baby,
it's being reported, and I say that loosely,
Say Cheese is reporting.
Anthony Edwards, I believe Say Cheese. They don't be wrong a lot. He one of the ones I be believing reporting Anthony Edwards, I believe say cheese
He wanted the ones I'd be believing Anthony Edwards allegedly filed a motion claiming that he does not want
Visitation or custody of his four-month-old daughter with Aisha Howard
That's rough. Where does everybody stand?
I a lot of niggas feel that way. It just takes a special kind of person to write this shit on paper
Especially when the whole world gonna see it because your kid is gonna see that later too that you didn't want that
Just do old school don't show up
Like a man did I'll be there 15
I think you just got some growing up to do and he's gonna change his mind later. That's dismissive
Okay Now I'm not saying it's not true
but
It's dismissive of the let's pretend that we talking about a man is older than him. That's that's
Vocalizing his non-parental rights that's saying I'm signing over all
Parental rights to you. I told you I'm one done to do with it
I really don't want that anything to do with the child or you I'm signing over my rights like I think it's fucked up
I don't want I don't want to say that the person that feels that way has to grow up because it'd be mature men that
Feel like I don't think I don't think that's what you're a man. That's saying that that's okay. What age you are
I think if you I mean listen, we know how bling stupid,
we know how babies is made.
And you put yourself into that,
now you have to deal with that.
And if you choose to just walk away,
I think that's some immature, coward shit.
That's my take.
Nobody has to agree with that.
But I feel differently about parenting.
I think it's bigger than you.
And you made this child, you don't just get to walk away.
The moms, they just, she's stuck.
She got it, she can't just say nevermind, I'm cool.
She could right now.
No, the child, ain't the child here?
I thought she was pregnant. Four months old.
I'm sorry, I'm thinking four months pregnant, forgive me.
Yeah, no, four months old.
I mean, she had a moment to make that choice.
Right.
She could still make that choice.
Even with the child is, she can make that choice.
Adoption, foster, I got you.
That's, y'all can. No, no, I agree with you that I think is cowardly.
I don't like the idea of abandoning your kids.
I think no matter what the situation is,
you gotta be there once the kid is here,
you just gotta make that choice.
But I agree with you that I don't think
it's necessarily immaturity per se.
I think just some people are fucked up.
Yeah, some people just feel that way.
Yeah, and they just fucked up people.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I don't know. Anybody else? My stance is same as Ice and last time we talked about this this was my stance as well like we brought up the
whole topic of her keeping it knowing he has a track record he has a track record
of doing this.
So, I don't know.
I feel like there was many conversations
that should have taken place before this even happens
to avoid this shit.
Or if she was just looking for a lick,
you hit the lick, cool.
You're gonna get the money from it.
That's all you wanted?
That's true. It's a win-win.
He don't want nothing to do with you or the child.
He just wanna be there financially. You might not't want nothing to do with you or the child. He just want to be there financially.
You might not just want this nigga, you just want the money.
I don't know you.
Text me though, if in month nine, if you look like me.
Text me, shoot me a text.
I might change my mind and pop up.
We got hops.
I got, yeah.
If it looks like that.
I want you to sign off.
Hey, hey, text me if that motherfucker start
playing the drummer earlier than he's supposed to. I want you to sign off. Hey, text me if that motherfucker start playing the drummer earlier than he's supposed to.
I want you to sign the paperwork.
No, no, I can still come back to develop a relationship.
Yeah, I can still come back.
If he jumping out the walker.
If he jumping out the walker.
Let me know if he's Picasso with the crayon.
I am going to come around here, here, here.
And he three feet at 18 months high line.
Yeah, man, yeah.
I ain't gonna front.
I be thinking about who some of the dads that wasn't there.
Where LeBron dad at?
Look, he gotta be the sick one.
He's some mad as shit.
That nigga is sick somewhere.
Cause it don't take much to be a black.
If he had just showed up to like one skate party.
Shaq dad, like some of y'all kids
is gonna grow up and dominate. Yo, this about to sound
fucked up. Some of them might not make it to that if dad was there. Some of them. I'm just saying,
some of them, you hear them talk, they use that shit as like fuel. So some of them niggas might
not have became that if dad was there. Shaq would have been just fine. If the son or the child that
I didn't want turned into fucking Serena Williams, guess who come be at the US Open.
You got them tickets and I need a plus one.
And I gotta make up a lie for what I've been doing for 25 years.
I gotta, busy busy. I gotta make something up bad. That's when they blame moms.
They blame the mom
Do be the mom, but if you're trying to reinsert yourself into the kids life You can't blame it on mom. The kid loves mom. You got in there. You got to own it yourself. Yeah, I was in jail traffic
I've been trying to drive to you
Just got right
And LeBron look just like his pops, too.
I just googled it.
Nigga, if LeBron is my abandoned kid.
He looked just like his father, yo.
I'm back, buddy.
Anthony McClieland.
I'm back.
And he played basketball, too.
Look.
I changed my name to James.
I'm just gonna be this.
I'll be Anthony James.
I'm talking about LeBron.
Shit, if it was Byron Russell's shit,
I'd have been back.
Right, don't take much.
It wouldn't take much for me to come back.
That nigga, whole father name on the Brawn.
Luffo, Luffo.
I can't believe Zoe out, Zoe's husband,
fuck it, she's a, he's a fucking, what a mutt.
Let me see, what else, what else, what else?
You think that's muttish?
I think that's muttish.
Why would you do that?
I just always say why somebody would do that.
He hyphenated his name.
No, hyphenated, I can understand.
Did he hyphenate or did he just take her name?
Yes, no, he hyphenated it.
Oh, hyphenate, I respect. I'm probably hyphenated. Oh, still a pussy. I wouldn can understand. Did he hyphenate or did he just take her name? Yes, no he hyphenated it. Oh hyphenate I respect.
I'm fine with hyphenating.
Oh please.
Still a pussy.
I wouldn't do it but I respect it.
Still a pussy.
I don't see no, what's wrong with hyphenating?
Be a man.
Well the hyphen part, his name is before.
So it ends in.
Saldana?
Yeah.
I can live with that too.
Like I think hyphenating it,
my personal belief is just keep your name.
I don't own you. You know what I mean? My wife has her name, just keep your name. I don't own you.
You know what I mean?
My wife has her name.
I got my name.
I'm good with that.
But I know people who say as a family we want to be able to walk in.
And for women a lot of times-
Well, your wife didn't take your name?
No.
I didn't want her to.
Neither of us wanted to.
Same with mine.
Yeah, same, right?
Yeah.
And also, you know, and then there's the Latin American thing where, you know, you have different
names and like naming is different, you know? and then there's the Latin American thing where you know, you have different names and like naming is different You know, but no, I don't know. It's like so
Sometimes like a lot of times kids will take kids will take like both names of the parents
You know what I mean? And then and then as you as you go down the line then one name gets knocked off and the next
Name comes on so
That's a way of acknowledging both parents
So it's not this thing where just like the dad's name takes over everybody's identity
So then what do you do with your male dominance there?
Mel, how you feeling?
I save it for financial abuse and sex.
Except for after the game the other day.
Your son got your last name off?
He hyphenated.
He got both of our names.
And my daughters have the same thing. We all hyphenated with them.
And I'm good with that. You know what I mean?
Like I don't need that. But I know people who say like as a family unit,
we all wanna have the same last name.
Yeah.
And I'm okay with that.
You know, Hov hyphenated, right?
I thought that, I was gonna bring that up.
I wasn't sure if that's-
That's not Hov's Hov.
Wait, so he's Carter Nose?
Nose Carter, both of them.
Oh, she doesn't think that's dope.
Then why don't you fucking mouth talk about Hov like that?
Are you crazy? Don't be disrespectful like that. Oh, see, I think that's dope. Why don't you fucking mouth talk my whole like that? Is he crazy?
Don't be disrespectful like that.
Let me see this shit.
You think that Jay-Z is Sean Carter-Nose?
Sean.
Sean Nose.
Nose Carter.
Carter.
And.
If so, shout out to him, I think that's dope.
Well, it's.
I think hyphenated.
Mel, would you want your husband to hyphenate?
Y'all trying to trick me into saying something.
You see me over here?
Hands folded.
What is the issue?
They trying to trick us into saying something.
My mother's trying to twiddle in my thumb.
I want to hear your stance.
Mel, let them get their one v one.
Your question, I would definitely keep my name,
because my name is my name.
It's my stage name.
It's my real name.
So I would keep it.
No, it could still be your stage name.
Yeah.
Nah.
No, his last name is, Jay-Z's last name was not hyphenated.
Okay.
I'm cool with the hyphenation, but my name would be on the end of the hyphenate.
And Zoe Saldana's husband doesn't believe in...
You said your name would be on the end of the hyphenation.
Yes.
If you got married.
Yes.
Oh, you don't want to get married.
Hold on. hold that thought.
Because Zoe Saldana's husband does not believe in typical gender wars.
He stays home and raises their kids.
Because of her, the success of her career, this is just the role that he is.
So we the Saldanas.
So the more successful one determines how this last name thing is going.
Not necessarily.
For me, it's about just what flows better.
You know what I mean?
And things like that.
Like if you name it Sheshevsky,
another one is Smith,
like Sheshevsky Smith might just flow better than Smith.
You know what I'm saying?
Like that's how I would think about it.
To me it's not who got more money or who's more dominant.
It's just what flows better.
I think my girl did mention something
about trying to preserve her dad's legacy.
And then I had to have the uncomfortable talk. Yeah I'm daddy.
Wow.
That is like literally patriotic.
Pop's up in heaven.
Yeah.
With all due respect boy,
you birthed a good one here.
But uh,
Give me that legacy. Daddy got it.
Daddy got it now. Daddy got it from here.
I got it from here.
No, no, no.
Daddy got it now.
Mel Ford ain't going to be on the end of nothing.
That Ford's going to be crashing on the highway somewhere.
Ford.
If you don't get that Ford shit out of here.
Are you crazy?
Let me see.
Who's this?
And Mel, would you feel okay with your-
Oh, this is Zoe's shit.
I tried telling y'all.
What?
Zoe's the most successful female actor.
She up there
with Julia Robertson she's big yeah
she's in Avatar she's the fucking action
here literally Sigourney we have passed
the fucking baton to her yeah she's big
no you said what so so you can we your name, or would it be y'all say separate?
Like, is he Michael Smith?
It would definitely be a conversation.
It would definitely be a conversation because I feel like the type of man that I would end up wouldn't just, he ain't going to be a beta.
He's going to want to have a conversation about this, you know?
Do you think it's possible to be possibly alpha man and take your name?
You like alpha man. No, yes, you like alpha man. You can't walk
If you say your thought
Come on man, I don't have a thought this is a board
Like it's such bullshit so
So you want these men to be traditional men when it's convenient.
Traditional women took the last name of their husbands.
Talk about it, nigga.
You are honoring your husband.
You're not honoring your father.
Who says that though?
Me. Him.
And tradition.
And tradition.
Me too, nigga.
But patriarchy is...
I would love to keep speaking. I would love to keep speaking. Okay.
I would love to keep speaking.
So now you're saying that the patriarchy don't exist
when the lady again is the CEO of Xerox.
When the lady is the CEO of Xerox,
then the patriarchy goes out the window.
You can't take your feet up like that.
Yo, look at me.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, come on, what the fuck out of here, my nigga?
Like, y'all want them to be men or y'all don't?
She got the more reason.
The men don't, the manhood don't come and go
with the ladies convenience.
But is it possible to think about saying I like tradition
but say some traditions just aren't good anymore?
Yeah, when they're convenient for your specific needs.
Why does everybody say picket,
you're supposed to picket you.
I'm not disagreeing, but if you live your life like that,
then that's fine.
I'm totally with that.
I am totally with homeboys sitting at home
raising those kids, and I don't look at him
like less of a man at all.
If my wife is out here doing 20 million per film,
then nigga, I'ma sit home, how you like your eggs, honey?
I don't have a problem with that at all,
and that don't take away from my masculinity,
and I still run my household.
I've dated women that had way more money than me,
and I still was the man in that particular relationship.
What we do today in society is we attach dominance to the finance.
And that's fucked up. So now when the man makes more money, people shun,
oh yo he treating her like shit, yo he treating her like she's subservient.
But then when the nigga makes less money then he automatically becomes subservient.
And that's accepted. So we can't have it both ways, it's bullshit.
Right.
If it's based on morality and it's based on a stance,
let's keep that stance across the board,
regardless of who brings in more money.
Let's go big ish.
I hear that, I guess I, from what I say, Mark.
Smoke mail.
Smoke.
Smoking on that mail pack.
Smoking on that M&M's.
Smoking the A's.
Smoking on that Ford. Smoking on that Ford. Smoking on that Ford pack.
Smoking on that Ford pack.
Smoking on that Ford pack.
You must be talking about Harrison Ford.
That's this Ford.
The reality of my particular lived experience
is that I have bucked tradition.
I have lived my life in a way that I have
bucked tradition.
So I think that I have
the bandwidth to yes,
pick and choose what I feel like is acceptable to me
in terms of what is considered tradition
and what is fucking antiquated
and rooted in fucking patriarchy.
Antiquation.
Here's the thing that I think Isha's right about.
I think that women, I can't speak for you personally,
but there are women who will say
that they don't want tradition and traditional gender roles,
but there are moments where they want what they call a benevolent patriarchy.
Like you still want the door of hell for you.
Let's go.
Let me finish.
I'm not speaking for you.
I'm speaking for me.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on one second here.
Is that just not manners or being or chivalry?
No, tradition.
Hold on, wait.
What's the difference between, what is the difference?
That's just manners.
That's just fucking good manners.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. Manners, why would manners also include you holding
the door for me?
I can.
I can and I would.
Right, but if you, but Mel, but Mel, but Mel.
But, sit the fuck down.
But Mel, but Mel, if you and I were to finish.
But a lot of times, a lot of times,
there's men who will not let you touch a fucking door.
And that's them.
That is on them.
That is the role that they want to play.
I don't disagree with you, but let's say hypothetically I wasn't married and you and I went on a date.
Let's say you and gentlemen.
Don't use me, don't use me.
No you, we grown man, use you.
Okay, so hypothetically you and I go on a date.
I suspect that if I didn't open the doors for you,
You'll judge me.
At the end of the date, and I just let the door close, or if I didn't pick up the check.
You're cooking.
Right, that there would be a thing of, yo, what say, and I just let the door close, or if I didn't pick up the check. You cooking.
Right, that there would be a thing of,
yo, what kind of dude?
What is he or? Butter in a pan.
No, no, no, no.
Because there's an expectation
of what I'm supposed to do.
The fire are hot too.
So what I, no, I mean, we just talking.
So, but when I-
Y'all clear out.
So, when I hear you say chivalry,
even chivalries are expectations
of what manners look like that are gendered.
Because chivalry is me opening the door for you,
it's not you opening the door for me.
So I think sometimes when we say we're traditional
or we're non-traditional,
to Isha's point, we are picking and choosing.
I'm okay with picking and choosing,
but I think we have to sometimes be more self-aware
about how invested in some of those patriarchal traditions
we are, especially when they benefit us.
Okay, so hold on.
Let us respond.
Let us respond.
Let us respond.
Let us respond.
Let us respond.
Let us respond. Let us respond. No, no, let us tell jokes in between. Let us respond, let it respond. When Mark is on the guy side, fuck with Mark. Let it respond, nigga. Yo, when Mark is on the- No, no, no, don't laugh, let it respond, nigga.
No, no, let us tell jokes in between.
No, let it respond, nigga.
And when Mark is for the men, that's my favorite nigga.
Ah, yeah.
He don't play with me for the men.
All right, go ahead, man.
Let Sister Mary Clarence respond, let's get it.
I think that with the example of opening doors,
if somebody walks through a door
and lets it fucking slam in your face,
it's fucking rude, regardless of gender. Regardless of gender.
That's number one.
Number two, I have found myself in southern states.
And I try to open door for myself.
And they will not let me because that's their custom.
That is just how they believe.
That is how they are raised.
And they say, you northern girls are like that.
You always want to do shit on your fucking own.
And I'm like, maybe that is in fact true because we're so
fucking used to it so it is not it's not something that I would go back and
report to my friends over this motherfucker didn't open the door for me
because I wouldn't even be literally thinking about it so first thing you have
no expectation of him paying the bill honestly honestly if he has asked me to
go out with now come on don't waste the time with lies no I'm lying the bill. Honestly, honestly. If he has asked me to go out with you. Mel, come on, don't waste the time, we're live.
Mel's lying.
No, I'm, stop!
Stop, stop, stop!
Stop attacking her!
Stop, let's stop.
It's a date that Mel went on and she came up here
and told us she didn't go on a second date
because the man didn't do something
that he was supposed to do traditionally.
What was it?
What was it?
I forgot.
Exactly, okay, so anyways, your argument sucks.
You remember?
We remember, but let her finish, nigga.
If you have asked me out on a date, if this is not just us getting together and this was
not planned or whatever the case is and we don't have anything romantic going on, then
I'm pulling out my credit card at the end of the fucking date and I'm offering to pay
fucking half.
I do not walk around with the assumption that the man is going to pay just because I'm here.
If you have asked me out on a date, yes, I absolutely believe you should pay for it.
And if you're dating somebody,
say you go on five dates, 10 dates.
There's gonna be times where I get the bill.
Okay.
That's just, and is that a progressive way of thinking
or is that a traditional way of thinking?
I'm asking, I really don't.
And so that's the tradition that I don't believe in.
That's the tradition that I think can be moved forward
in a progressive manner.
Interesting, okay.
Now y'all know I support lying in podcasts.
You do.
You encourage it.
Yeah, I encourage it.
Hold on, maybe I need to make something clear.
That is if I'm in a relationship.
What is?
The last statement that I made with Mark. That's what I was saying, in a relationship. What is? The last statement that I made with Mark.
That's what I was saying, a relationship.
Why would that matter if you're in a relationship or not?
Why would that matter if you're in a relationship or not?
He got her.
You blew it.
She blew it.
I'm thinking about it back into the debate.
Why?
Why would it matter?
Doesn't matter, y'all.
That's true.
That proves Mark and Isha's point.
Why? That proves the point because you are now now if you're not in a relationship and you're
expecting this man to do certain things predicated on his gender.
According you. Then it then it diffuses the whole point that there's a
expectation based on gender. Or not according you. For men to do X. Like me and you have
always been platonic. We've been out a million times
You've never reached for the check once I mean
No, what?
nothing
She pointed him nothing. No, no, no fish. What about both of us? I miss I just didn't get the joke
Nothing, nothing. Never mind. No, but
That's that's a whole other ball of wax
I think I understand Joe's point and Joe's's point is, if we friends and we cool,
and you saying if we go out to eat,
then there are times that you reach for your wallet.
Why didn't you reach for your wallet when we went out?
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, like when I do it,
that is the patriarchal scale in the gender
and the expectations, that's what that is.
I don't mind, I'm not throwing it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the beat.
As a man, that's what we should do, period. That's the beat, so, but that is what they is. I don't mind it, I'm not throwing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the beef. As a man, that's what she do, period.
That's the beef, so, but that is what they saying.
Yeah.
And you're down with that is all we be saying.
Olive branch, white flag.
I don't got it anymore.
And it's not a beef thing.
It's not a bad thing.
Because I think men also have that.
Like, as progressive as I am, there's certain things
that I don't let women do.
True, thousand percent.
Because, and it's patriarchy, right?
Thousand percent.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm, some of it is patriarchy,
some of it is expectation.
Like, I know that if I take a woman on a date,
no matter how progressive she knows I am,
when I was dating, if I don't pay the bill,
she's not gonna say, oh, that nigga's so progressive,
he thinks we have gender equality.
He can be like, that nigga cheap.
She can be like, that nigga cheap.
You know what I mean?
So some of it is just how to work.
It's just expected.
It's just how the world works.
And so some of it we play into.
And also, it's like, there's way too many nuances, which is why I'm saying olive branch, white
flag, because there's way too many nuances involved in the conversation because the fact
of the matter is that the longer that you start to see somebody and the courtship progresses
and closeness starts to develop and stuff like that, then a synergy starts to happen.
There's a lot of things are developing where understanding starts to come into play. that, then a synergy starts to happen. Like there's a lot of things that are developing
where understanding starts to come into play.
You know what I'm saying?
No, that's true.
That's true.
In every situation is different.
I'm just saying that I think a lot of times
we fall into these traditional roles
even when we think we don't.
And we just don't see it.
And it's easier even for me to,
like for example, like I don't wanna cook.
So it's easy for me to fall into, or a better example, because neither of us really cook,
but washing clothes, I don't want to wash clothes.
I fucking hate washing clothes.
She has no more of a duty to wash clothes than I do,
but she does it.
She cleans the house 99% times more than I do,
and I just let her do it.
I just fall into that, and that's patriarchy,
whereas I wouldn't do that about fixing her car. When it's time for a car to get fixed, I just jump in and do it. I just fall into that. And that's patriarchy, whereas I wouldn't do that about fixing her car.
When it's time for a car to get fixed,
I just jump in and do it because that's my instinct.
But that's just because I think as a dude,
I'm supposed to be doing that.
Do you think that, see, my household is just the opposite.
So I wash dishes, I clean, I do all of that shit.
I don't think it's patriarchy.
I just look at, it's two adults.
Yeah, that's how I envision it.
I don't look at it like that's my girl's role.
You understand what I'm saying?
Like if my girl cleans the kitchen that day,
she just cleans the kitchen that day.
But typically I clean the kitchen
because I'm up late.
So my girl go to sleep.
That's my.
That's right.
But it's not a role.
But it's not based on my gender.
It's both of y'all realizing this shit has to get done.
And that's why she would walk in this house late
and try to clean this kitchen.
Boy, I hit you with a fire. But the other thing is that as progress,
us trying to be progressive,
we're less likely to talk about gender roles
and refer to our mates as, you know,
in the gender, we refer to them as partners now.
And when we think of, when we call each other partners,
we're really expecting, our expectation is,
this is a partnership. So this is shared responsibilities kind of thing. So it's less of a gender role
assignment and it's just about we have decided to cohabitate, we've decided to
have a family, so whatever the, wherever the slack is, somebody's gonna pick that shit up.
And I'm just saying, I'm more likely, the last thing I'll say is I'm just likely to let some slack go.
With the washing clothes.
And it's usually very traditional. Like I'm not going to like change, I'm not going to let some slack go. With the washing clothes. And it's usually very traditional.
I'm not going to let the tire change and slack go,
but I will definitely let some draws get in.
I don't play my girl touching garbage.
I've been like that with anybody.
I'm not cool with that.
You're not taking the garbage out.
The most you can do, take the bag out right there and tie it.
That's it.
The sad part about it... it. That's it. But you don't touch, like,
it's gender shit.
No, that's big.
And I'm not, shut the fuck up.
Tradition, we would love for tradition to work both ways,
but we can't because life is evolving every day.
Double standards exist.
Double standards exist, but I do what my wife to wash dishes,
I do what my wife to do the laundry I do what my wife to do the laundry.
Not because I can't do it,
because she's better at it than me.
Get in that kitchen, brother.
Maybe because she got all the practice
from doing it all the time.
I mean, you never do it.
Get in that kitchen.
You know you don't wash the whites with the colors.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I may wash the white clothes with cold water.
You know what I'm saying?
I just made this, I know what I'm saying?
I just made this, I know, I'm good.
Anime?
Yeah.
Not anime, no, no, no.
I'm on the cook, she tell me, you know, just do your thing.
Everybody made a lot of sense.
In closing, that Ford is going in the junk drawer.
Shut up.
Word.
It ain't gonna be on the head.
I'm taking Ford, nigga.
What do you crazy?
It's what Harrison Ford said, nigga.
Throw this shit to Hudson River, the Ford, nigga. So what Harrison Ford said, nigga? I had to move to Ford, nigga.
We'll see.
Hyphenated Ford.
Get the fuck out of here.
Also, happy to report the police are saying
they have identified all of the suspects
in that horrific shooting with a homie and his daughter.
Oh, good.
Oh, yes.
They have active warrants out.
Get them.
Yeah.
See Sequon got paid?
Sequon got some swaggy?
20 plus a year.
Two year extension, 40 something.
40 million, 41.
He earned enough.
He earned every dollar.
You know what, I'm thinking basketball numbers.
He's the best running back in the league I think.
It's the highest I think ever.
By far.
Okay, okay.
I don't know enough about football tonight.
He was fighting with the Giants to get 13. She thought it was 15. Yeah 13
That's the Giants wouldn't give him 13. No, they would give him 13. I gave Danny Doms 40
And I told y'all that these running backs that are up for renewal next season are gonna change the entire market
I just said Jimmy Gibbs be Robinson, Christian McCaffrey,
Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry.
And now that Saquon just did that,
what are you going to tell a young early 20s Jameer Gibbs
he can't get?
Right.
Oh, he's going to take a break.
He's a threat out the backfield, catching a ball
and running a ball.
There's nothing I can't do.
What?
You got to give him 16, 17.
You got to give him 18.
You got to give him 18.
He's young still well
We don't football. How do y'all feel about Debo to Washington? I don't care. I care
Why you care I'm a cowboy fan what I mean
Division stop enough now
He still thinks cowboys can win you like me bro none of that matters. I still want my team to have a shot at winning. It makes sense.
I'm a fan of the team. So yeah, I'm still rooting for my team. But you should. I'm just
saying neither outcome will lead to a different situation. You all gonna be in last place.
D-Bo wasn't the reason. You want some money? You gonna be in last place? I like taking these niggas money up here.
I don't know enough about football to bet on it.
I just know the Cowboys ain't shit.
We ain't.
This year, we weren't shit.
I don't like what they do on the Shadoor.
I didn't have that on the board, but I don't like what they do on the Shadoor.
Me either.
What you mean?
Or Cam Ward, even for that matter.
He seems fine to me.
I haven't heard anything about him.
He's QB1. For sure, he's gonna be QB1. On most boards. No question, no question.
What they're doing to Shador is he's too arrogant,
he's too, didn't interview well,
we got him dropping late in the 20s.
The gap between him and Cam Ward is bigger
than the gap between him and Jackson Dart
or whatever the rest of the quarterbacks are,
but below him they got him dropping.
They started to do the mock drafts
where his name is just being totally disrespected.
I don't know what's happening out there,
but I don't like what's happening with Shidou.
How good is he?
He good.
He's pretty good.
I mean, if you're going off what you've seen on film.
Do you expect him to be like a,
like who's as comparable in the NFL today?
Like who would be a comparable player?
Tua.
What's my man name from?
Tua.
The Falcon?
I mean like the Falcon.
He plays very similar, he plays similar to Cardinals.
No, he's nowhere near, nowhere near.
He's not mobile like that.
I like the Tua comp.
Okay.
I like the Tua comp.
He's not mobile like that.
Yeah, he's too ish.
Okay.
From what I've seen.
The way they slander in his name,
I don't know if the Giants take him if he's there
Well, yeah, I gotta take him cuz he black. I've heard that they're trying to trade off cam
That package that I saw looked absolutely ridiculous to trade up to the first pick
What was it was a package y'all giving away the house?
It was our our third pick from this year our second round pick from this year our second round pick for
Next year a player. It was man. shit. Some old Hershey Walker type shit. Some Hershey Walker shit.
And the team ain't gonna be shit? Hell no.
And it's the thing, the team ain't gonna be shit, cuz you're gonna give up mad shit, and now he gonna be stuck in the same situation with no O-line with any-
No, hold up. Their offensive line isn't horrible, and they got, uh, my man, Neighbors.
Neighbors is a problem. You put a good quarterback there,
you put Ken Ward there,
they're gonna be a good football team.
They're gonna be something you have to deal with.
And their defense is not, there's pieces.
There's pieces.
The Giants are not that horrible.
They're not as bad in bad shape as like the Patriots,
you know, they have a lot of capper room.
They're not in the worst, worst place in the league.
Except for the quarterback.
Yo, keep into the book. They never were. They always had,
but without, you know what I'm saying? Like I thought the quarterback,
I know I'm not, I don't think Danny Dimes is a bum like that.
I don't think he's horrible, but I don't think it was a bum. I think,
I think the old line was trash. That's why I kept,
say Kwan kept getting hurt year after year after year cause they all line
wasn't shit.
Danny Dimes don't be getting a chance to throw the ball and they didn't have a
number one. Malik neighbors is a certified bonafide number one.
So we'll see.
Uh, Cuomo running for mayor is interesting to me, but we tore it in.
We don't have to get into that right this second.
Uh, and I think he's leading polls with all of that. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
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I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it.
I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. and being like, maybe, yeah, maybe that was a little. My nigga, how can you justify picking a president that got 30 sexual allegation charges
and ousting the governor that had one or two?
With no proof, this nigga got convicted.
He the president.
This dude got accused and he had to step down.
When they made him step down,
his ranking was way up there.
Because post COVID, he was the man.
He was America's leader.
He was post-COVID, he was him.
So.
And we thought he'd be the next president.
Yeah, they thought he was going to run.
So I think that, I just think he has a way
of talking to the people.
He resonates with common Americans.
I think that that's his strength.
And I think they've learned a lesson, too.
I mean, you look at Al Franken, for example, you know, that's his strength and I think they've learned a lesson too I mean you look at Al Franken for example, you know powerful senator in Minnesota
He stepped away for a very small charge relative to what some of these other Republicans have been accused of
I'm not defending what Al Franken did
I don't even know what Al Franken did exactly because I don't I just don't remember
But I do know that I think Democrats have learned a lesson that they're playing by two different rules
Yeah, they keep stepping aside Republicans be like, yeah pull my dick out
I don't care. I'm running again and you can vote for me.
And they do.
And I jerk it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, yo, what's the charge?
Lude-ness is when you jerk it.
Yes.
Right?
Yes.
I don't know.
They lewd.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I think just the Democrats are pussies.
Yeah.
So Andrew Coleman might be the return
of some courage for them, you know what I mean?
Even though I don't like him, you know,
I hate Eric Adams, so I'll take it.
And that part, that's the part too.
New Yorkers by and large, I think, are...
Eric Adams versus Mario Cuomo.
Lancelot.
That's a nice fight.
That's the fight. That's the tank.
No, it ain't.
Tell me more. Cuomo's putting that nigga to sleep in the third round.
I don't even think it's close.
I wasn't talking about Billy Results.
I'm talking about the personalities.
Those two personalities.
On the campaign.
And in the primary too.
Because you really get a good primary challenge.
Cuomo's a New Yorker B.
Cuomo is a New Yorker. B. He is. Cuomo is a New Yorker.
Talks like he walks like Eric Adams.
Eric Adams not a New Yorker?
He is.
He hard-cores me.
Eric Adams got on TV and was like, hey, fuck Kansas.
New York got a spirit about us.
Eric Adams been talking that New York shit for a while.
I don't think that's...
He was a Brooklyn police.
I just think Cuomo has the edge in how he handled the pandemic before they did that shit.
I just think how he talks and he resonates with the people.
Eric Adams from Inception, from the first day.
Niggas was like, yeah.
Yeah, he was a plurality.
Niggas like that?
Yeah.
He's somebody who was like, all right,
of all these people, he's the least.
He's the one we hate the least.
Whereas Andrew Cuomo, people stand up for him more.
And with Eric Adams, yeah.
Puff at the time
Yeah, Angie all of them
Yes, I don't know if he has all of that just go around well, it still was he might have puff um I
Hit the round of applause a few quick hits
Whole fouls defamation suit on Busby and the Jane Doe Accuser.
Round of applause. Go Ho, go Ho, go Ho.
We support you and we love you.
Casey Anthony has a really weird rebrand going on right now.
I guess I'll tell you about it on Patreon, but she's a weirdo.
I don't know what future has going on with this little young girl,
but it's a constant reminder not to fuck young girls.
Is she young?
Yes.
She's older than me.
She looks older than me.
Yeah, she ain't looking young.
Don't give me the line, and I'm going based off her behavior.
Oh, mentally young.
Yeah, I'm going based off her behavior.
Like her face didn't look that young.
Uh, we got a rest in peace for Skype.
There is no more Skype.
Skype is officially a rap.
Skype used to hold it down.
Oh, my God.
We sad.
You know I'm sad.
You know I'm sad, boy.
Fuck that nasty nigga.
Skype, Gmail chat, Uvoo, all them shits.
Come on now.
G-Chat was the shit.
Oh, my God.
That was fire.
They added that little video feature, it was over.
Yeah.
What else, what else, what else?
I had something else, but I don't remember it.
I don't remember it right now.
It's cool. I don't.
Sleepers. Sleepers.
Which get those sleepers?
I'm going in the vault, I'm going in the vault for this one
I don't know if this is available on your phone or on DSPs
This is Division, one in a million
I don't know if this was a SoundCloud error or what, I don't think it's out though.
Shout out to Division, Daniel, what's good?
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Spend my life with you
Won't be you
In any way I can
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Your love is warm and all in all day long Your love is all in all day long
It's all in all day long
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division friends of the show.
Before we continue, off of that Anthony Edwards news that we reported earlier, Anthony Edwards
gets a win in court after a judge ruled that Aisha Howard's child support case she filed
in California has no jurisdiction. Anthony claims Aisha lives in Georgia despite her claims that she moved to California
before giving birth. He alleges she gave birth to their daughter and filed her case in California
in an attempt to get more child support. So small win. Yeah, item like again back to what I was just saying seemed like
She had it for a bag. She had the baby for a bag and he don't want to do it
So don't get pregnant and try to foul in California. God damn it. No, no foul in Tennessee. Where the fuck I met you at
California
That speaks for me
California you should be trying to yeah, yeah that speaks volumes
Yeah, all right what we got man um
I'm playing some of this gym album. This is back in the day off at the church steps
You just heard Mark say he wanted to play back in the day
Mark said he wanted to play Friday and meek which I play It's like going on but we not over wrong. I like this one. Where's the great eat?
Sturdy
Just a season
You all welcome, they told me, you're back in my bag, it's like the bottom of some chips Bitch we never lie, you know we got it on the hip
We wasn't scamming, we was gramming, we so proud about a brick
They was blaming that Miss Ippo, shit they shot him in his whip
I'm getting money, shit I got pride on my kicks
My jewels like a plume, she said she boutta take a dip
Fuck lights on the porch, cause where I live is always far be
We gettin' real money, bitch, every day we walk the dog
Just left, say less, couldn't tell you what the tab was
We put money on that boy's hands, I couldn't tell you what the bag was
My willy was at the table, shit, I'll tell you how to bag up
You and your Louie on your Burke and that lil' nigga get your bag up
The Versace, Silk and Shockin' Rollie Master P
Red face with the bezel
The Rollie Master V
If the club close at four
I might roll in after three
I used to buy two for Kinect
And he would throw in half a king, nigga
Galangay!
Go out the west so Bobby
Shit, furred up like a car's a
Bernie made up in the projects
Foreign praetor, foreign audace
Well nigga, I'm a beast
You gon' make your moms a target
Take it to the, shit Take it to the the streets I'm really out here like that, it's a fact
You ain't really out here, shit, where you at?
We really in the mix, nigga, we really taking trips, nigga
We saw a smoke to them, they treat their opps like, uh, huh
I really got some crashes with me, some Unabombers
All them niggas know is go and blast the blicky
Or pass the blicky just so they can blast the blicky
Every time they watch boys in the hood them niggas laugh at Ricky
This shit is all a joke to them
They treat their opps like his eyes are all smoked to them
That H-T, matching my name that'll cause a reaction
We really making movies, their voice is just acting
We ain't playing games, ain't a toy, we ain't strapping
And I gotta watch the phones, the boys they be tapping
He's either black and white or red or blue
Back to back, the gang is red but the bread is blue
Half of the trial with the feds and blues
Still rocking my red chucks though
I ain't finished with em I sold packs to the crack till I was finished with em
Niggas think they steppin' to the spinners, get em
I make one call to the steppers, they gon' spin and get em
Make that boy a plate like we had dinner with em
Any cars dropped that we ain't got, we finna get em
And if I did burn a bridge then we gon' swim to get em
And if they catch us in the spot they let us in with em
Seaplanes landin' on the ocean bed
If you eatin' you gotta make sure that your folks is fed
Not much has changed since I had that tester roast a rat
And tell Ted I'd rather talk about the coke than stack
Don't get burned for that butter tryna toast the bread
Pourin' liquor on the floor when we toast to death
So we can never let it slide just like a broken slab
I been killin' shit, wonderin' for murders what the poster said
The fuck you think I supposed to say?
I been lookin' for my friends but they mostly dead
Swazy, so I brought them ghosts instead, black shit, I'm swazy, niggas know
Enough of that D
That was hard
That is Back in My Bag, Jim Jones at the church steps
Alright I'm going to Maryland, this is 6, Kyle Blue, Buddy, and I'm forgetting somebody, Like, for a moment. That intro is crazy!
Is it a hook on there or nah?
Is this a beat?
I ain't starting already, yeah
I need a favor, I need that Zada hit like Ali and Frazier
But only papers, niggas, still buying packs with the flavors
I see you later, player, I'm on these capers turning racks into acres
I need a baker on my playlist, thankful, named after the angel Gabriel
I know you tired of that same-o, same-o, stay aware of other angles
Angles ain't shit sweet, this ain't mango tangled
More like Django, oh baby
Might be the coldest to hit the firmament
So wavy, blow in the water and make the current shift
Old Navy, anorak hoodies we used to glow a bit
And niggas still bite like my doberman
I'm over it
Pop the gas by the zip, I'm finna roll this shit
The odor hit like two sticks of old nigga deodorant
Oh shit, never been my match but for sure was lit
The whole kit, 86 coupe with the gold, oh shit
Yeah, yeah, sugar, don't stop the party
Yeah, yeah, sugar, don't stop the party
And when the sun goes down, ooh
Don't stop the party, don't stop the party Yeah, till the DJ play my favorite song
Don't stop the party, don't stop the party Yeah, I'm ready to body shit, I'm ready to
body shit No Rowley on my wrist, but y'all niggas should know what time it is
Ain't committing homicides and all, but that's alright
Cause I ain't one of them guys that just be saying something cause it rhyme with shit
Been a long time since I had the 9 to Friday shit
I'm still bout a billion away from where I've been tryna get
I'll still mix up some of the Hanes with the designer shit
I got designer that, designer this, I got designer whips, designer crib
It came with a one on one designer bitch She paid like 20,000 got designer that, designer this I got designer whips, designer crib It came with a one-on-one designer bitch
She paid like twenty thousand for those, their designer tits
I don't even take it to the club cause she keep tryna kiss, ooh
Shorty don't do that, that's not cool, that's rude
And any sucka shit they said I did is not true
And any nigga that they said was wack is not blue
And whoever they said can hang with us is not you
Yeah, y'all already know this how we do, come on, come on
Yeah, yeah, sugar, don't stop the party
Yeah, yeah, sugar, don't stop the party
Yeah, and when the sun goes down
Ooh, don't stop the party
Yeah, don't stop
Don't stop the party, don't stop the party
Uh, cause it's a celebration bitches
Take it from the best in the gang
Spitting all the hella hatin'
Never least to elevatin' riches
Uh, escalates and ranges
All switches you niggas is on the internet
Banging from long distance, I'm sayin'
Come on with it, uh
Get in the vicinity to visit me
Just literally you ain't it all
Bitches you playing it off
Endless I'm sayin' you soft, you say you hard
But nobody else that you know in your circle
Say you are, say you fall like a tree in a forest
No one will notice if I slip, no one will trip
Because I'm one of the dopest
You ever try to smoke me, gotta smoke me to the roach
Clip, cause I ain't going out like Double Data with no bitch party
You couldn't be an MC Fly
If you was Marley, I'd leave you as is
And sorry, no joke, as is And sorry no joke As is and sorry with no joke
The gold was gold ropes for dope Quotes the folks go That was second. That was absolutely fine. Who was third? I don't know who the last one was. Third. It was four niggas or three?
Well, there's the dude in the hook.
No, the next to the last nigga went crazy.
That's Kyle, I believe.
Artist is Eviction of Love.
The song is Play It Off, featuring Bryce Antilla.
Oh, that's serious.
When I pull you to the side
When I pull you to the side Girl I think you might like what I'm saying
Patient all night, too grown to be shy
Need to be mine, stop playing
I said this ain't got me geeking
Looking at my watch and it's a demon Oh my god, jumping off the deep end
Either I'm in love or yeah, this drink is way too strong
Or you let me feed that
When I holler at you looking for a reason
Just too tough, but you think about leaving
Gotta get you home with me tonight
Time to see how this fumble drive
120 up the hillside
With me we do what we want to
I think you're ready
It seems like you're ready
Girl I've been in love with you all night
Girl I really flexed on you
Yeah they really slept on me
Girl, I'm so pressed on you, and I can't even play it off
God really flexed on you, niggas really slept on you
Girl, I'm really pressed on you, and I can't even play it off
Honestly, I think that we could use a little privacy
Nobody in the business trying to see who I'm with and where I'm with him
Honestly, no, I don't wanna hear it
I gotta make a few plans or something
So do you got a man or something?
And if you do, baby, he don't gotta know
But either way, I can't really let you go
I think you're ready
It seems like you're ready Girl, I've been bad, it seems like you're baddie
Girl, I've been in love with you all night, yeah
God really flexed on you, yeah, they really slept on you
Girl, I'm so pressed on you, and I can't even pay it off
God really flexed on you, Niggas been slept on you
But I'm really pressed on you, And I can't even break it up
If you want we can stay, All friends can leave
If you want we can hang, Just you and me
If you want me, Shawy gotta pull up on me
Cause I want you And I can't play no, I can't play it all
Girl, God really flexed on you Baby, we slept on you
Girl, I'm so pressed on you And I can't even
I can't play it all God really flexed on you
Niggas, we slept on you Girl, God really flexed on you Niggas be slept on you, God be grassed on you
And I can't beat it all
That is Eviction of Love and Bryson Tiller, Play It Off
I see what you did there Ish, went to a man, yeah
Trying to get those niggas off, we ain't falling for that. We ain't falling for that niggas. That ain't gonna work. We got you figured out. You already know. One week ain't gonna throw us off. Give me back. Mel, let's go. Crocodile Tears by Coltrane and Chase Chakor. So I ask you and your own girls to be intimidated
or proud of what I hear.
Don't say it's about me
Tell me the truth girl
Say it's about me
Tell me see you so deep
And I know
All you want is comfort
You say everything is ever so human
And all this is the way it's heard
You're so selfish, baby Cause I've always been about mine
Snake skin bells in a ring changing
Home runs don't stuff The crocodile tears
No, I didn't do it
Did you hate me somehow?
But you don't even know what I did
No, I didn't, yeah
Snake skin, bells, and I'll be changing
Chrome, bronze, stone, stuck
The crocodile tears
Ooh
Did you hate me somehow?
That you don't even know what I did
And more I did, yeah
Ooh
Ain't trying to sign no fantasy
You fucked with me, luckily
But you still fantasizing, oh no don't need you while you're wildin'
Shit ain't been exchanged since we touched, bro
Touched back in the city like, you know your heart could hold
Your throat froze from the diamonds like, you know your tears
fall from the one side, you said you need some love for the one time
Now I got rid of the snails like double pie
Why you say the girl I'm with lies?
Stay skin bells and LV chains and chrome hearts don't stop
The crocodile tears
Cause you hate me somehow, but you don't even know what I did
You know what I did, yeah
No job ends
Snake skin bells and LV chains and chrome hearts don't stop the crocodile tears No job done! Snakes getting burstin' I'll be changin'
Home runs don't stop The crocodile tears Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh- As Crocodile Tears by Coltrane and Chase Shacor.
It's gonna always be some Coltrane.
Mark?
You gotta rock, nigga.
Mine is in honor of Angie Stone, you know. After she left the sequence, she joined Vertical Hole.
So I got a track from Vertical Hole called
Seems You're Much Too Busy.
Now they stupid couches.
Now they stupid couches.
When your knees fucked up, they stupid couches.
Got it.
Oh, shit.
What the hell, they recorded this off the vinyl or something?
She got mad. Some tacky shit.
No, I just had a mad space at the beginning.
Is it? Yeah.
It's gonna be cool.
There we go. And I can't stand it seems too much too busy these days That's a great joke. You gotta do that on the pie.
She could fit my daughter. I bet she could fit you in there now.
She's got wet with a t-shirt. Oh damn. Busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy I'm gonna get you a hoodie bro, too damn busy Baby, make some time for me
I really need your love right now
I'm asking you to find the time
So much too busy, so much too busy
Can't stand it, so much too busy
Can't stand it I can't handle it
Stare in the eye
And I can't wait to know
Let's me know
And I can't stand it
Just how you're feelin' by me, babe
And I can't handle it
Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo- I'm getting a little bit too much sometimes Soon you're much too busy for me and I can't stand it
Soon you're much too busy these days and I can't handle it
Soon you're much too busy for, and we can't handle it Soon you'll have to be standing, and we can't handle it Soon you'll have to be standing, and we can't handle it
Soon you'll have to be standing, and we can't handle it
Soon you'll have to be standing, and we can't handle it
Soon you'll have to be standing, and we can't handle it
Soon you'll have to be standing, and we can't handle it
Soon you'll have to be standing, and we can't handle it
Soon you'll have to be standing, and we can't handle it
Soon you'll have to be standing, and we can't handle it
Soon you'll have to be standing, and we can't handle it
Soon you'll have to be standing, and we can't handle it
Soon you'll have to be standing, and we can't handle it Soon you'll have to be standing, and we can't handle it You're making me wait too long You're making me wait, you're making me wait too long
You're making me wait and baby I'll be gone
You're making me wait, you're making me wait too long
You're making me wait and soon I'll be gone Stay with me on Don't make me on my way
Don't make me on my way
Just how you're feeling by my bed
Soon you'll watch too busy
With me and I can't stand it
Soon you'll watch too busy
Please stay with me
And I can't handle it
Soon you'll watch too busy With me and I can't stand it I'm too young, too young, too young, no, no. I ain't going to the park baby
I ain't going to the park baby
I ain't going to the park baby
I ain't going to the park baby
I ain't going to the park baby
I ain't going to the park baby
I ain't going to the park baby I ain't going to the park baby Weak Pod for they head tops. How's it going? Nice light vibe, huh?
Come on now, what the fuck they talking about?
Also we want to say rest in peace to Dolly Parton's husband.
Yes, for sure.
Carl, I want to say his name is.
Can we fact check that really quickly?
Gotcha.
I don't want to fuck Dolly Parton's husband name, bro.
Is his last name Parton?
Some of y'all with that old I'm keeping my last name shit.
Carl Dean.
Carl Dean.
Rest in peace.
They made 60 years.
They were married for 60?
Yes.
Amazing.
Could you imagine being with somebody for 60 years?
God damn.
I guess that's the goal, right?
See, you're doing it again.
You just did it again.
Your wife is cool as hell.
Look what he did.
I got the best wife in the world.
There we go.
I just couldn't imagine 60 years.
Why don't we all do that shit?
Make it seem like we miserable at home.
I'm happy at home.
Shout out to you, baby.
I love you.
There you go.
But why would we do that, though?
We just do it.
It's nigga shit.
But we don't have to do that, man.
Yes, we do.
We do.
That's what make us feel like we still got something.
Right. That's all make us feel like we still got something. Right.
That's all. Oh man.
Yo, speaking of, I know we said rest in peace to Angie Stone.
We brought up sequence and all that.
We ain't bring up how she took D'Angelo out of the game.
Ooh.
Snatched D'Angelo.
Hey, bitches couldn't understand it back then.
Had that nigga head in the clouds.
Oh my Lord.
Shit. Yo, that.
Yo, it ain't nothing like a breakup to how you get in the V.
Start jogging, you start running, you won't be in shape.
All that.
Breakup, take weight off you like Jenny Craig.
We gotta break this shit down to Patreon, man.
I heard some things.
What'd you heard?
I just heard that there was plenty of rain in that cloud. yeah yeah
yeah. she glad that nigga when he was doing all this out there now. all up now.
she drove him crazy and made that nigga gain all that weight too right? that wasn't D.E.S.L.O.K. that big?
I think he lost it over the breakup. that's when he lost it. yeah. is that what happened?
that's when he got untitled.
Yeah, that good.
Oh, don't do that.
He don't, he on some Tiana Taylor shit.
Yeah, nah, I'll break.
Shit.
You can't do that.
Don't go lose all the weight after I leave, nigga.
Fuck you talking about?
Oh.
All right, man.
Shout out to Tiana Taylor and fucking Moosafa.
Moosafa, yo.
Hey, hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows if you've been listening, you know we need to be there until the next time.
You want to call? Let me hear you.
Hey. Hey. D'Angelo walk in the karaoke.
You leaving?
Yeah.
Yeah, you're about to hit me.
Until the next time, we bid you adieu, farewell, adios, Aviva Durce, hasta la vista, RV, adios,
adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios,
adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, adios, ad hit me. Until the next time, we bid you adieu, farewell,
adios, arrivederci, hasta la vista, au revoir,
so long goodbye.
Remember life is a series of moments and moments pass.
So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Oh, we have. Oh, we have. Oh, we have. Oh, we have.
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Oh, we have. Oh, we have. Oh, we have. Oh, we have. Oh, we have. Pretend that they against patriarchal fucking designs The stagnant women wanna travel
The baddies wouldn't wanna travel too
The baddies don't wanna just sit at home
They wanna go out and you pick up the tab
Go shopping, what's that little shit you be wearing?
America's people? What's that shit?
Martha's line, free people
I mean, the baddies want some of that free people now
Don't blame Yeah, I mean, stagndies want some of that free people now, don't play
Yeah, I mean stagnant women want to travel to close-minded women want you to teach them things grab your talent all you might need it
Anybody out there fighting a silent battle we are with you anybody out there going through fucking aches and pains like we are we here for you
Anybody out there that lost somebody we with you
Hey Anybody out there that lost somebody, we with you. Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy y'all I heard you in hour one say that you was going to show us soon. Something might be happening soon.
You didn't say nothing else.
I learned my motherfucking lesson.
You didn't say nothing else.
I know I didn't.
But I read between the lines, girl.
Hey, things going good.
Hey, things going good out this bitch.
Hey, turning up out there now.
Y'all see.
Yeah, y'all going to see.
Show them bitches, man.
Show them Andy.
Y'all are bitches.
Y'all are bitches.
Y'all are bitches.
Y'all are bitches.
Y'all are bitches.
Y'all are bitches. Y'all are bitches. Y'all are bitches. Y! Hey! Hey! Y'all see.
Yeah, y'all gonna see?
Show them bitches, man.
Show them Andy.
Y'all are bitches.
Y'all are the bitches.
That's what I mean.
That's what I mean.
That's what I mean.
Anybody got any weak plans?
Anything for the week?
Anything for the week?
Just working.
Prayer star brother-ish, man.
Hopefully he does not need surgery for that walk-boob.
Word.
We working this week.
Ain't that many Sergio's in the world, nigga.
Go ahead and throw some jeans on.
I'm trying to be cute.
You trying to do that sympathy vote shit with...
Oh girl now.
Oh damn what happened to Schmell?
Some chicks was on IG.
I saw his crutches.
Yeah. Is he okay?
On my IG. That's how you know he can't sit down.
They seen him already on the crutches.
Yeah where would they see me? In the streets, where you was. Outside.
In the streets, nigga.
Like dog food.
I wasn't outside.
You move around, nigga.
Yeah, outside, man, it's all right.
I wasn't.
It's okay, my brother.
Might have been the people at the...
Mr. Crutch Man.
Prior to the gym.
Mr. Crutch Man.
At the hospital.
Prior to the gym.
Oh, I didn't even think about that.
Oh yeah, niggas noticed you in the hospital, right?
Oh yeah, the hospital, that's probably where they saw you.
Hey!
Hey!
Hospital, man!
Yeah, it's probably right there, right?
You gotta kick me, you go to the hospital, nigga.
She has the scrubs on too.
Hey, with the jaddy, huh?
Hey, show me your little baddie.
Yeah.
Hey, girl, you put that boot on my foot.
Don't let my girl see.
She ain't here.
You're going to kill her now in this episode.
I did hear you say you was hurt on the farm.
I did hear that.
I did hear you got a little injury.
Can I bring you some food?
I know you're tired of that Portuguese shit.
Here, take some of this.
Fried chicken.
Wow.
Fried chicken.
Mmm.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
Come on.
This nigga's so fucking ish.
Fried chicken.
This dude.
Now, you gotta turn down that head that just fall
in your lap when you're not looking for it.
Turn it down.
Yo, Joe, stop doing that, you nigga, Joe.
Stop doing that.
What? It's true.
I don't think our girls recognize that. But you're not saying for it, turn it down. Be strong. Stop doing that, Joe. Stop doing that. What, it's true, I don't think all girls recognize that.
But you're not saying it that way.
Shit, who?
Who?
Shit.
Oh, shit.
Nigga, you went some awful shit.
I'm telling you.
Seven seventeen bitches over to suck my dick today.
I'm still here.
You went to 720, nigga.
You can't get this.
When you turn, nigga, she right there.
Hey!
I'm right here.
Now he's subjected to,
I love my babies, she cook good meals.
Yeah, I love the meals.
Niggas be popping up.
One more year I see this nigga, sad.
Sad with the baby leave.
The old ball and chain.
The old ball and chain.
I saw you last time on Twitter.
My baby left, they both crying and shit.
He can't escape.
Yeah, that's when I tried to go and use the fuck.
I tried to go make me the little shake she'd be making me,
but she'd be using the bullet, the nutriment bullet and shit.
Nutri-bullet, yeah.
But she tried to show me how to use it.
Catastrophe.
You can't do it like that.
Be like that, son.
Because it's turned on as soon as you put the thing.
Yeah.
Turn it.
That's the stupidest thing I ever heard.
Put it on and then turn it.
Not for left-handed clumsy people.
So when you got to turn it off, you got to push it down and turn it.
You just turn it the opposite way?
Milkshake all over the floor.
How?
How?
Because when I turned it, it unscrewed the top.
You got to screw the top before you put the thing in there, don't you think?
You think I don't know that?
When I pushed and turned, it was unscrewing.
Tight, tight, tight.
You're a bitch if you can work the bullet.
No, it's not.
No, you're trying to work the bullet.
You're trying to say you're a bitch. You're trying to put some negative shit on some regular shit, nigga. You're a dono if you can work the bullet
Okay, tighten the shit up nigga, oh shit niggas say you ask your girl to untie the mason's I'm saying if he tightens it up and then go open
She get more... I hear you doing that.
Yeah, boy, I can't open this.
She added a different slaver.
Yeah, boy, I can't open this.
I can't do it.
I can't do it.
I can't do the Trilla Daddy and swag niggas.
You know what I'm talking about?
Black Power shit, nigga.
Stop, don't do that, because we already in the...
What's the newspaper in Jamaica?
The Jamaican Star or some shit?
Stop, chill now.
Enough for now.
I told you to stop.
That'll be enough for that press.
Wait, what happened?
What, baby?
What, what, what, what, what?
What, what, what, what, what?
What the music?
They got a whole...
So Joe Button step kids is the Jamaican superstar.
I'm like, wait, whoa, buddy. Holy shit. Yeah, you right. What going on? The music. They got a whole... So Joe Button step kids is the Jamaican superstar.
I'm like, whoa, whoa, buddy.
Holy shit.
This podcast is big.
We gotta shut the fuck up.
With the moment shit.
All right, man.
Again, y'all be good out there.
Yo, Daylight Savings time is this weekend.
Yes, it is.
You lose an hour, daylight saving times this weekend.
Shit crept back up on us.
Y'all hold it down out there man.
Peace, love, health, wealth and prosperity man.
Stay sucker free and we will be back to you same time, same place this weekend.
Let the beat go.
Ford.
Damn shit. Ford. Damn sure is.
If you didn't believe in all that patriarchy shit, they wouldn't have paid for the cake.
Not to bring the cake back up.
Oh my God.
You know, you bring the cake up more than anybody else in the fucking room.
I know you're not talking.
You still owe me fucking Uber money.
But don't dismiss.
Oh yeah, from when we dropped off on one.
No, we are not clear. We're not clear. No, we squashed that. No, we didn't. still owe me fucking Uber money. But don't dismiss. Oh yeah, from when we dropped off on one. No, we are not clear.
We're not clear.
No, we didn't.
I don't owe you the Uber money.
I left it alone.
I gave you the Uber money, but not gave my shit from Lola.
I left it alone.
I can't hear both of you.
I left it alone.
See, why you gotta start some shit?
I'll pay you Uber now if you give me my $100.
I was talking about the cake.
Basically, it cancels itself out.
Exactly.
Where my cancellation?
All right, all right, all right.
Where my mind?
Listen, look.
Where my mind, where my mind?
Hey, I just want one day for Mel to come in and say, yo.
I got you, niggas.
I would leave Earth if patriarchy left Earth.
What?
She's mad down with the patriarchy.
That sounds crazy to say, just like that.
She's all the way down with the shit.
But it will fuck up her sponsorship.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, that's true.
Lay.
I'm going to lay.
God, I might add more sponsorship.
No.
What Mel's stand for.
She's just frontin' trying to get the fuck
her woman menopause pussy sponsors.
Mel's image, what she stands for, she can't say.
Versus what she really is.
She can't say what she really is.
She cannot.
You gotta play the motherfuckin' drops.
She can't say what she really is.
You gotta stop thinkin' that, bro.
She can, man.
You think she can be herself?
JVP, JVP.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
JVP, JVP.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
With the double deuces, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That damn hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, feeling good. That nigga got you in a good mood, girl.
I ain't gonna lie.
Unison, nigga.
That nigga doing his big one.
My nigga is surging, yo. Look at this.
He's like, outpouring them niggas, man.
Broke outpouring, like, when he was looking for his first...
for his first half.
He's like, outpouring when he needed a loan.
And he got the white tee, too,all. Look at this fresh shit too.
This is fresh white tee.
Oh my God.
All right.
Fuck these niggas.
Enough of that, D.
I'm going to go to bed.
I'm going to go to bed.
I'm going to go to bed.
I'm going to go to bed.
I'm going to go to bed.
I'm going to go to bed.
I'm going to go to bed.
I'm going to go to bed.
I'm going to go to bed.
I'm going to go to bed.
I'm going to go to bed.
I'm going to go to bed.
I'm going to go to bed.
I'm going to go to bed.
I'm going to go to bed.
I'm going to go to bed.