The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 819 | "Where’s Wallo When You Need Him?"
Episode Date: April 23, 2025Marc, Ish, & Parks are eager to question Joe about his experience at Madison Square Garden for Game 2 of the Knicks-Pistons series as he was seated right behind 50 Cent (15:13) before Marc clears up a...ny beef he’s had in the past with DJ Akademiks (35:13). Shannon Sharpe is being sued civilly for $50 million (43:35), Emanny joins the show with more jokes for Joe (1:12:40), and after a long bout with illness Pope Francis has passed at 88 (1:23:03). Also, Kanye West continues to receive headlines (1:26:45), Roddy Ricch speaks out after posting his son on Easter (1:53:30), the room discusses fandom in social media and if celebrities have the right to be frustrated (2:05:05), the JBP reacts to SubwayTakes with Kareem Rahma (2:36:30), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: www.patreon.com/joebudden Sleeper Picks: Joe | DESTIN CONRAD - “KISSING IN PUBLIC” Parks | Don Covay - “I Was Checkin' Out She Was Checkin' In” Ish | Asiahn - “WASSUP WIT IT” Emanny | Tabeia - “How Much I Care” Marc | Wiz Khalifa (feat. OT Genasis) - “How We Act”
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Oh shit that payroll could look beautiful now.
Don't take a bunch of niggas and get it done.
I'm talking shit, I'm talking shit, I'm talking shit, I'm talking shit.
I feel like there's a mark in this evil mark.
Oh for sure, absolutely. I've seen the evil mark, I like it.
I like that side.
I feel like this whole show has been introducing evil mark to the world, honestly.
And he's loving that shit.
That nigga's going flat-Earth view on that motherfucker. You know, flat-Earth niggas is still mad as shit. introducing evil mark to the world
That's why you you better to me that was like yo you sound like a fucking idiot
Yo, you gonna have a fucking problem what you gonna, beat the nigga up through the keyboard? It's what you was going to do, you was going to meet that nigga in the park. What?
Did you jump to my YouTube?
Did you see that shit?
This dude jumped to my YouTube.
Yeah, he's, I wanted to beat the shit out of it.
What happened?
For the people that didn't see it, what happened?
So, Isha Ice got these flat earthers hyped up now, right?
So everybody-
I got them hyped up.
Niggas drawing me diagrams in my DMs.
Yo, this is what would happen with the X axis and the Y axis if it was, niggas shut up.
Right, so then one of them challenged me to a debate.
I said, I'll debate you with anything except Flatter,
because I don't do that.
I said, you can get Neil deGrasse,
I'm not a scientist, right?
So I'm not doing that shit.
Who I've reached out to to come up here.
Oh, that'd be great.
That'd be great.
So could it just be a one on two?
The homie.
The homie.
The Flatters.
Oh, that'd be dope. I love? The homie. The homie. The flat earths.
Oh that'd be dope.
I love Neil deGrasse.
Me too.
I absolutely adore Neil deGrasse Tyson.
The way that he teaches is brilliant.
He just makes it so simple to understand extraordinarily complex shit.
And he's not a condescending dick bag like me.
That's what I was about to say.
I was about to say yo for him to be, you know at one point they called him the smartest man on the planet.
I did know that.
Yeah, so for him to have that in his planet.
Not planet.
They said the smartest man on the planet.
Yeah, X-Planet, right?
But yo, he still ain't condescending,
like you know what I mean?
I'm glad I know when to mind my business and when not to.
Because whatever the shape the earth is,
It don't matter.
It's none of my business.
Y'all niggas, it's a real thing.
Dykeman gonna be Dykeman, it don't matter.
It don't fucking matter.
That's how I feel about it.
No, I agree.
But this nigga, and he's also,
this dude was a Joe Button podcast stand too.
So he kept saying,
you're not gonna keep talking to Isha Ice like that. you're not gonna keep talking to Isha Ice like that.
You're not gonna keep talking to Isha Ice like that.
Like really, like.
Like, that's my man.
That's my man.
That's my man.
That's my nigga.
I'm gonna talk to him more like that now.
Exactly, exactly.
That's my man.
He was tweaking for y'all.
And then he started talking like you.
He was like, I watch the show and I was like,
who is this stupid ass nigga?
Yeah, he was wild.
That's how you sound when you get high, right?
So he started.
So he started. Oh, he was he was wild. That's how you sound when you get high, right?
And so he just kept saying like little jabs and then mark wasn't checking the jab right so he just start throwing hooks
In this my hold up hold up hold up Yo, you ain't gonna keep talking to me like that.
We gonna have a motherfucking problem.
I'm like, okay, Mark.
I'm a very calm person, but I only got two switches.
And once I hit the other switch, I go somewhere else.
I don't wanna ever do that, especially on camera.
Well, calm is in how soon or not you get to the other switch.
You know what, that's what it is.
That's true.
Yeah.
So if the guy that's in his room on Zoom,
Zooming you in his pajamas, eating Tostitos,
can say anything to get you kind of there,
I would argue you might not be the calmest.
That's a fair.
There's nothing they can say on the internet to me to make me want to meet up and beat
these people up.
That's fair.
That's fair.
I didn't realize you were so calm actually until I watched the Knicks games last night.
Oh shit.
You saw calm?
Calm.
He was calm.
I didn't see calm.
Joe was at perfect peace.
Wait calm or Australian hodurian?
I didn't see calm.
This is our pressure?
Hey yo you got nails left?
Alright I'm just gonna.
Alright I'm just gonna. Yo, at perfect peace. Wait, calm or scream? I ain't see calm.
Yo, you got nails left?
Alright, I'm gonna start.
I've seen y'all ready, so I'm gonna start.
I wanna start, y'all.
Yeah, let's get the proceedings proceeding.
Let's fucking go.
I think this thing got no fingernails left.
Right.
It was a close game.
He don't know.
He don't know.
He ain't way.
Oh, man.
Oh, my.
Yo.
Yo.
Oh, my God.
Shout out to my brothers, Flip.
I ain't shout out to my sister, Mel.
Always here with us in spirit. Shout out to 50 Cent Flip, I ain't shout out to our sister Mel Always here with us in spirit
Shout out to 50th fans we heard you
I'm thinking about y'all cuz
I know y'all will wanna get some of these jokes off with these guys
These guys sound nice and excited
We have a real good time today though man
I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man Like the fire that needs the air
I burn, I miss you out there, you're there
Like the fire that needs the air
I burn, I miss you out there, wake it up out there! Big Jersey, Big Jersey!
Feel this.
EGLE! The women in my life bring confusion to shit So like Nino and Mujet, I oughta cancel that bitch
Look at me, this is the life I chose
Niggas surround me so cold, man my heart gonna froze
I build the empire on the loader, knock stone
No, I'm the weatherman, I take that gold
Believe in me, there's no sin back
Watcha turn the door, watcha go out the door
O after O, you know, homie
I'm just crippled, dreaming
Niggas be dancing Oh, you know, I'm just dreaming Shout out to wherever you might be listening from
Always for the ladies, always for the ladies
You can't see the penitentiary is definitely out the question for me
I want to find the things in my life
So I hustle, hustle
Feeling good, feeling great
I'm trying to get mine
Fuck you, fuck you
I don't care if you come with all where you from N*** mine, fuck you, I'm okay You come with all we get from, nigga fuck you
I'm never gonna leave you, you're my life
So hustle, I'm loose
I let my wife talk for me, my wife talk for me
My gout talk for me, my wife talk for me, my gout talk for me
What up, homemade, my wife sayin' hi, shorty, we could be friends
My whip sayin' quit playin', bitch, get in
Shout out to all the subgroups out there
All the first and last time listeners
Shout out to all the hate groups out there
All the support groups, we need the love, we need the love Ayy, ayy
Getting hot outside, getting nice outside
We pulling the cards out, we pulling the cards out
Ayy, I saw you doing a little Ferrari out there y'all think? I know but I'm talking to all the niggas that hit me when I pulled the Ferrari out like
Yo, I just got the McLaren, let's go, let's go right here.
We on that this summer.
What the fuck they talking about?
Shout out to the non-invitamers.
Shout out to the entrepreneurs out there.
All the parents listening, to all the children!
Wait a minute!
Alright, let's get to it. I go and pop the trunk, come back because I'm done My money coming up, my pockets acting mumps
You see me sitting on the other, that's why you mad, chump
By special request
We gotta go to something, eat
Oh, shit
Good y'all to know, I was playing some R&B shit
I had some Lucky Day queued up
You had a Lucky Day
I had
I had
I had
I had
I had
I had
I had
I had
I had
I had
I had I had I had I had I had I had I had I had I had I'm not gonna let you get away with that. I'm not gonna let you get away with that. I'm not gonna let you get away with that.
I'm not gonna let you get away with that.
I'm not gonna let you get away with that.
I'm not gonna let you get away with that.
I'm not gonna let you get away with that.
I'm not gonna let you get away with that.
I'm not gonna let you get away with that.
I'm not gonna let you get away with that.
I'm not gonna let you get away with that.
I'm not gonna let you get away with that.
I'm not gonna let you get away with that. I'm not gonna let you get away with that. Damn! Niggas wanna be out here and you go, it's crazy!
It's crazy!
Alright, we gotta change the name of that to Mini Co-hosts
Yo
Mini Mini Co-hosts
Oh man
Ah, let me get these drops out the way right quick so we can have some fun man
I don't wanna delay the proceedings any longer than I already have
Mark stayed up all night with his pen and pad out
This part, this part
I didn't really
I didn't really bank on Ish being hilarious but
Excuse me sir, I'm sorry I have to go to your doctor Sometimes Sometimes these variables that you didn't plan for to come up and you got to work around it man. What episode is this?
Welcome to episode 819 of the Joe Budden podcast. I am still alive
You bitch ass niggas. Take that. I'm here made it to work. Yeah, no bruises. Y'all would just love it
Well, we don't know. I got shades on.
That is true.
Welcome to episode 819 you said of the Joe Button podcast.
I'm your humble gracious, grateful, happy to be here, host here with a few really amazing
people to my right.
Just a few this time.
Yeah, literally.
Literally just a few.
That's the mini men, right?
Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building.
Dark Lamont Hill, Evil Mark.
Okay, Evil Mark.
Evil Mark is here, you can tell, I can tell.
Big issues here, King Wawa himself.
Elmira's finest parts is in the building.
Poe is here, Corey is here, Erickson is here,
nobody else is here, that's it.
That's it.
That's it.
She have to say Vaughn and Tanner here with us
by remote last but certainly not least,
each and every one of you guys out there are here.
How you feeling Joe?
I feel good.
I wish you could call Fat Joe to give his version.
Oh, what happened?
I don't know if I want to hear Skinny Joe's version.
I don't know about Skinny Joe.
Fat Joe's assessment.
Yo, this is just hilarious already.
I had such a great night last night.
Last night was great.
Yeah.
Woo.
Got out of there.
Got out of there.
I did watch like towards the end of the game
and he was no longer there.
And that's why I was like,
I wonder how things really went like behind the scenes.
You left in the middle of a nail biter?
Yeah.
That was a close game, fam. It was. I don't know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't a nail biter? Mmm. That was a close game, fam.
It was.
I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't say nail biter to me ever again.
All right, what do y'all want to start?
It seems like it's a lot to unpack.
Do y'all want me to tell a story?
Do y'all want to joke around?
We're at our commentary.
You're sitting there like, y'all, I hope Wallo coming here
so he can work it. Where the fuck is Wallo?
Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello.
And he says you and Metis is good guard.
Well y'all are here to see if I was alright.
Y'all are here so we can ride.
I gave up on that.
Oh shit.
No.
He call us a nigga like, yo you good?
He gonna be like, yo what the fuck you think nigga?
You gonna be calling me with this bullshit? Yeah, you got they're like, yo, you good? He gonna be like, yo, what the fuck you think? Nigga, you gonna be calling me with this bullshit?
Yeah, you got it, fam.
All right.
Who are you good?
So, I had tickets to game two
of the Pistons versus the Knicks.
The Knicks won game one.
Yeah.
Not in a beautiful fashion.
Game one? Yeah. It beautiful fashion. Game one?
Yeah.
It's close.
But we won.
My baby was coming, it was gonna be date night.
It's gonna be a beautiful time
in motherfucking New York City.
So, decisions to make, right?
Sure.
Phantom.
decisions to make right? Sure. Phantom.
Like how are we doing it tonight? This is deflection or something. I don't know what it is.
It's one of them. No, I'm telling my, I'm telling my story.
What do you want me to start at? No, no. You got to lay it out.
Okay. All right. That's funny.
Okay. Okay. Anyway, so, uh so I planned on being early, right?
Because it's the Knicks, it's playoffs, building was going to be packed.
I imagine this to be nuts.
So I had this mapped out for us to leave 30 minutes early.
I'm going with my lady, so we end up running 45 minutes late.
But we still end up walking in at a good time.
So we walk in, and we get there and walk in this good seat right next to the next bench.
I'm excited.
The game started already.
No.
Okay.
Great seats.
Yeah, great seats.
Really, really.
I don't want to talk to him.
I don't want to hear from Mark at all because you're a little too condescending.
And while I'm telling my story, I might not catch it.
Great seats.
But they were really good seats.
Yeah, they were really good seats.
Yeah, they were.
So we go and the game didn't start yet.
We made it on time and time to get our sushi,
the crab meat.
Sushi, hot dogs?
We went and got some, no, no, I didn't do hot dogs.
Oh, okay.
I didn't do hot dogs.
Over the weekend, I ate anything
that wasn't tied down to the floor.
So I went to bed feeling really shitty
and ashamed of myself.
Yeah.
Looking forward to every number two I had to take.
So I wasn't about to go in the garden and do my garden glizzy thing.
We were keeping it cute tonight.
Sushi, crab, water and juice and we going to the sea.
Let's do it.
And it's packed in there.
Everybody is in there, boy.
All of the white stars, I don't know who the fuck they are,
was in there.
It'd be a lot of money in the garden.
What?
A lot of money.
Duh.
But it's different.
Playoff time, a lot of money.
Yes, duh.
Playoff time is crazy.
Nigga, James Dolan is in the front of the,
behind one of the baskets,
in like a polo with a blazer, a lollipop, like a fisherman's hat, legs crossed,
family is here. It's just like, oh, you playing just different.
Looking like a J. Crew ad.
Yeah, exactly. Then Spike is over there and it's just some of the Jewish money is in here.
Vince Diller, John McEnroe.
Yeah, exactly. Gary Vee is behind me. So Ier, John McEnroe. Yes, exactly.
Gary V is behind me, so I'm already in phony mode,
is what I'm saying.
I bet.
Gary V!
Hey!
Long time no see!
No, but I do love Gary V.
Yeah.
But, I'm telling you, I do love him,
but it's the, you know.
Little exercise.
Hey, we do gotta get sushi.
We gotta get lunch money.
Come on.
So we do it all of that.
Here we go, we sit down, cool, we sit there and ain't nobody sitting in front of me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So then Fat Joe comes in with his daughter and they sit down.
Shout out to Fat Joe. Shout out to Fat Joe.
Shout out to Fat Joe.
Shout out to Joe.
So me and my girl start talking about the Bottega outfit
that Fat Joe got on.
But in my head, I say,
now the last few times I've seen Fat Joe in the garden,
he has been directly next to 50 Cent.
Mm-mm.
Mm-mm.
And I said, wouldn't that be funny?
If those are the, it's only two seats left.
They right in front of us.
Those are only two empty ones.
And sure enough, as God would have it, 50 comes in.
And my man, my man, my man, I'm braiding for you right now.
Yeah, shout to Eve.
So I dab Eve, and 50 just sit down, but he don't see me.
But his man sees me, but he don't see me. In fact, Joe knows I'm here, but he don't see me.
And Fat Joe knows I'm here, but he don't see me.
All right, the game started.
We watching.
Fuck it.
We watching the game now.
Were you quiet?
Not too loud.
Yeah, stomach was talking.
I was about to say his heart was pounding.
He couldn't hear nothing.
He couldn't hear the game.
Hey, his heart beats sound like Sasquatch. Right, exactly. He couldn't hear a thing. Hey, his RV sound like Sasquatch, right?
Exactly.
Marv Albert turning around.
Did you see him like, what the fuck is that?
What the fuck is that?
Did you change your yowling voice?
Somebody let some doves in the building?
Now you have a decision to make in this moment, right?
Because, contrary to whatever the internet is saying,
I don't think there's a problem.
So when he sit down, I want to grab him by his shoulder
and say something to him.
Didn't do that though.
Only cause my girl is here.
Sure.
That is the only reason that you just look too pussy.
Right?
Doing that.
Corey, you want your clothes off?
How? Corey can't help himself. What? If that's your normal thing. doing that.
What? If that's your normal thing.
No.
Yeah.
People think y'all got beef in it.
You like, Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nah, nah.
You don't look pussy.
Every camera in the world is on in here.
Yeah.
Every celebrity is out and you right there.
Your girl is here.
We buy a tibetal.
You're not underneath the basket or something
where you can be out the way a little bit.
When he see me, he'll see me, we'll kick it,
we'll chop it.
But to do the extend shoulder hang
up right behind you is the pussiest shit ever.
That's what you said, a toxic masculinity.
That is the pussiest, I don't get what you say.
That to me, what y'all think?
Oh, I don't think that.
If that's your norm, if that's your norm,
and that's something I would normally do,
you and 50 Cent ain't beefing.
Of course we not beefing.
Of course. So if that's your normal thing,
like if it would have been, none of this stuff happened,
and he walked in and he sat down and he ain't see you,
you'd have been like, yo.
No, I would have done it.
Yeah, you would have. No, I wouldn't. I didn't see you. You're the man. No, I would have done it. Yeah, you would.
No, I wouldn't.
I don't do that.
That's all right.
When I'm outside, I'm not the initiated, be seen guy.
I'm really low.
But that's not important.
That's a real life thing.
It don't matter right now.
So I'm not doing that because my girl is here and we not pussy.
I respect that.
Yeah.
I would.
And then what happens?
Oh, so now this is why it's funny.
Because there's famous levels in the garden.
For sure.
You're level two.
I'm not level three.
I'm a different level.
He's in row two.
He's level like five.
Nah, he might be like three.
Don't do that.
Don't try to.
Don't try to.
Don't try to.
You're three.
Three, three is fair.
You're level three.
I say it to say my garden experience is never being the famous guy in the
garden. They'll put you on the little slut with the pictures. No, y'all hear me.
So I come in here and talk shit saying I'm more famous than half of them little
white kid actors. They'd be putting up there, but it's not about that.
And I'm low.
So fat Joe and 50 cent being in front of me means that this is about to be a
different thing.
And it's some black people in this garden that know me so they know what this
situation is. Okay. So they look at it.
So every time the little white lady come over to Fat Joe and 50 Cent with some big time
celebrity shit, there's black people around.
I see it.
What's going on?
Cool.
So I say to my girl, yo, if they come over here with that celebrity camera shit, I'm
wrapping my set.
Because I have to.
I have to just because she said, don't you dare do that shit.
This shit gonna be all over there.
And I said, I have to do it.
And sure enough, they came over and I look.
And we laughed and laughed and laughed and then I and five minutes after that,
I think he's seen me after that. Well, actually in my story, he didn't see me.
It's always her that's making it hot. He's in her.
You turn around
And he said, oh shit, Joe.
And then we spoke. The nature of the conversation will remain between us.
We apologize, we kept it pushing.
Please, sir.
No.
Not tonight.
We had a good time.
Just to start of the fourth.
Just let me stay to the start of the fourth.
Please, sir.
Get this shit on, have fun.
Not in front of my girl, please. Not in front of my girl, please.
Not in front of my kids, Gus.
Not in front of my kids.
Texting Pat Jo on the low line.
You can make us cool.
Hey, Joe.
Oh, shit.
I didn't know what to call Lloyd Banks.
Everybody.
Hey, Banks.
Thanks.
Yo, y'all are so dumb.
But it's fine.
So now, but wait now, because before anything, you know, I'm not going to be able to do
this.
I'm going to be able to do this.
I'm going to be able to do this.
I'm going to be able to do this.
I'm going to be able to do this.
I'm going to be able to do this.
I'm going to be able to do this. I'm going to be able to do this. I'm going to be able to do this. I'm going to be able to do this. I'm not even gonna name him Banks.
Yo, y'all are so dumbs.
But it's fun.
So now, but wait now,
because before any of this even happens, nigga,
man, I tell you, my phone is on absolute fire in here.
My phone is buzzing in a way that it's never buzzed before
with people that I didn't even know watched basketball.
Everybody is up.
My aunt is up, the children is up, your five year old,
nephews is up watching, your brother's is watching.
Everybody is watching this game.
I'm like, oh, they definitely got us on.
Yeah, you was trending on Twitter.
Yeah, oh, I didn't know.
You was trending like all night.
Like that's how I saw.
They can start sending me the photo.
I didn't even understand.
Because the photos that I got, like they weren't good photos. I couldn't really see 50
Right, so I'm like what the fuck niggas I know he got ticket you can see Joe, but you couldn't see 50
Yeah, so I'm like yo, I know the fuck I know he got tickets like why you sending me this she's kissing somebody's ass
You know who it was?
I don't get it. But anyway, don't worry about it.
So then I'm like, yo, I understand.
And then somebody hit me like, yo,
you see that bullshit your man?
See, see, see, karma.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
They like, nigga, you ain't see the picture I sent you?
I'm like, yeah, I don't get it.
Then they said, nigga, go look at the first row. And I look, I said like, yeah, I'm get it Then they said nigga go go look at the first row and I look I said, oh
Okay, oh you did look a little purpose though
He was you was purpose Ellison
Person trying to look calm and I ain't gonna step on it. He was smiling hard. You look like you're trying to look cool. I'm not even rebutting nothing y'all saying,
because even that looked pussy.
Have fun, have fun.
Yo, get your shit off.
They only remember cartoons
and they could be eating his nails.
Tight rider coming.
It's cool, dog.
Did you see 50s Instagram posts later? I saw it again.
Oh, okay, he posted it again.
Yeah, so that was the way it went.
That was after we talked.
Okay, yeah.
But it was a really good talk.
It was a great talk.
You felt safe after the talk?
I felt safe before the talk.
Because the post was, I seen Joe.
He said I don't need therapy no more.
But the sound of it to my ears was like,
he ain't say, basically he ain't say I need therapy
in person, you know what I mean?
That's how I took it.
Yeah, so people took that.
I think people gonna read that post and think that like.
He was the shrink.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He jokes this big.
Jokes aside, because 50 is who he is before he got here right so his
reputation precedes him so we know why we treat these matters with certain
levels of sensitivity however he's also a genius behind this internet stuff yeah
so I always look at the internet shit as him doing internet shit.
Right.
And being a master of that.
And that's it.
And that's it.
He manages to stay relevant regardless
of whatever the hell's going on.
And I've had this talk with him in the past, right?
Like I think some people don't know
that him and I have other ties.
Him and I have gone through things in the past for this internet 20 years,
this internet is now target niggas is up target the hookah spot.
Like I always bump into him in the most random and unexpected of places,
but anytime I've ever seen him, it's been a great talk. It's been a great talk.
So I forgot why I've just brought all that up
too serious. I didn't mean to but just to let us know you're safe.
Y'all didn't come pull up to help. They would but yes we had tickets. Yes. I was
I was safe. We had a good time. Oh and back to this leaving at the end of the
game because I see this this is a thing. Yeah. The markets new so you don't know.
I'm gonna leave before the game is over.
In a playoff game?
It was.
It was.
It wasn't a nail biter.
It was a nail biter.
It was not a nail biter.
By the time we left, we had missed the shot that would bring us within four.
We was down like five or six with two minutes left.
It looked like-
You don't think being down five in a playoff game is a winnable game?
Five with two minutes left and y'all was going body shot for body shot?
That's not what was happening in that fourth quarter.
I watched the whole game, bro.
Okay.
I didn't see the game, so I can't say.
I did.
That was a close-ass fourth quarter.
Close fourth quarter.
I would have left under normal circumstances.
I'm leaving with five minutes left on the clock.
I stayed longer.
I do that too.
You stay there too long and that block to get up to the Lincoln tunnel, you'll be there for an hour.
I'm leaving. I'm always leaving.
See, I'm not in a place.
I'm never staying to the end of a game.
No, I'm not.
Summer jam, concert, movie strip club, movies.
Movies? Movies?
I'm leaving early.
Like, if the end of the movie is kind of over for the most part.
If I don't care about this movie anymore,
I'm walking out.
Yeah, I'll stand up at the edge of me and my girl
and just stand right here and watch it.
That's crazy, I don't care that much about traffic.
Yeah, I do.
Oh, I do.
I try to beat the traffic, but if it's a playoff game,
I ain't miss this.
If it's a man, it was a close game, bro.
That game could've went either way.
Not to me.
Two threes, if Carrethia Townsend played well.
Either, bro, it was down three.
Nobody played well.
That was the worst game that the Knicks played all year.
I think both games went like that.
I think what happened in those two games,
and this the A-Block so we ain't gonna talk sports,
but I think they were some of the worst
officiated games I've seen.
Them niggas was out there playing gorilla ball,
fucking each other up.
Both games, they was fucking each other up,
and the Knicks were the beneficiary of a bunch of them calls.
I think they just couldn't.
They used to be in bully.
They used to be in bully.
They got even last night,
because Detroit got a whole bunch of calls last night,
and we didn't get shit.
I don't know what Tom Thibodeau was doing,
but I ain't gonna say nothing about it
in case I go to game five and see these people.
That boy, Duren on the Pistons is a big nigga yeah like yo I'm a nigga dived in
the crowd he dived into the crowd well I'm sitting right there oh yeah no I
had I had to pick Rick Brunson up off the floor
ain't a small dude shout to Rick Brunson up off the floor. Rick Brunson ain't a small dude.
The child of Rick Brunson, that's my man.
And that little white nigga, that fucking nose is bleeding.
It's a mess over there.
Whew.
Joe, game five, if the Knicks lose,
are you sport superstitious?
If they lose twice with you in attendance,
do you stop going to the games?
The Knicks lose when I'm near.
That's the running joke with me and my dad.
When I go, and no know when it's happen.
You gonna keep going despite that? Yes. Because this ain't our year anyway. This ain't our year
to win it. No. To win it all? Yeah this ain't our year. I thought y'all had a chance to get to the
East, the Eastern Finals. I still think we got a chance. Not me. I still think we got a chance.
Some health issues. I mean it's possible.. I don't wanna say what I wanna say,
because Tatum is my man, but shit.
If them bones get the breaking over there on the Celtics.
That's the health issues I'm talking about.
Yeah, that's my man.
We don't wish that on Jason Tatum.
Cause on the low-high route for the Celtics too,
cause I love that, I love that coach.
He is a minister society.
Yo, did you see when Tatum fell?
Yes, and he told the medical dude, the trainer,
no, don't go over there.
Get up.
Get your light skin ass up.
He's a monster.
And I respect that, because I'm tired
of seeing players hit the floor and stay down for five minutes
like they got shot.
Just to get up and play again, it's like, knock it off.
And Joe Mazzuto's like, knock it off.
But anyway.
Anywho.
So yeah, I left.
I entered my car safely, got home safely.
Well, not even, cause she got,
ah, let's keep the night going.
Yep.
Let's keep this party going.
Just gonna do this party.
I'm like, wait, why?
Why?
It's lit already.
Let me just go do what I gotta do in the crib.
So now we run over there and then from there,
now she's all the way gone.
She's like, ah, drive through McDonald's.
Wait.
It sounded like my wife told me to.
Drive through McDonald's.
Yeah, let me get some nuggets and some all this drunk shit.
All right, cool.
So then we do that.
And by the time we get in the house, she is now singing the Sunset Park song.
Oh shit.
It's time to get live.
It's time to represent.
That was the shit.
Sunset Park.
What time is this?
Hey girl, if you don't get your drunk ass in the fucking bed.
It's not time for onyx.
Front row.
The Sunset Park song.
That's when you know somebody is just gone.
Yeah, for sure.
We had a great night last night.
I ain't gonna lie.
That sounds fun.
It was a really good day and night.
And only me.
Yeah.
Only me.
That is true.
Only me.
Hilarious.
I'm glad you're safe though.
Yeah.
Same.
Me too.
Me too.
That's what I got for you.
Me too.
That is.
I'm safe too.
Yeah. I'm safe too. That is. I'm safe too. Yeah.
I'm safe too.
You lucky.
I'm lucky.
Look like J.B.P. handle all family business.
What beef you had?
I woke up this morning to find out
that my beef with Ak is over, academic.
You lucky.
Come on, round of applause.
Tough.
I'm glad you pieced it up.
Tough.
You lucky.
You lucky, big Ak.
Ak is a friend of the show.
Yeah.
Ak is more than a friend of the show,
but he's a friend of the show. Yeah. And I, friend of the show, but he's a friend of the show.
And I, you know, we've had issues, I guess,
for the last couple of years.
I hadn't really, I ain't think about it like a beef.
You know, cause I wasn't actively beefing, but.
What the fuck were y'all beefing about?
So a couple, about maybe 2022,
he had made a comment that I disagreed with,
that I found problematic.
I'll just say that.
I don't wanna put it out there
because I don't wanna go back down that road.
And I tweeted about it.
And he didn't like my tweet.
So I think first he tweeted,
Mark Lamont Hill is a bitch.
Bitch ass nigga, something like that.
Which I took as him being upset.
Sure. And then something like that, right? Which I took as him being upset. Sure.
And then he deleted that, but then he went live that night.
He shitted on you.
Oh, it was crazy.
He said he was gonna-
That's what he does his work at.
He was gonna smack me, no, he was gonna spit on his hand
and smack me, so.
Oh.
That's what the live button do.
Little Hennessy in the mix?
Yeah, oh yeah.
Home, back at the cul-de-sac.
Yeah, I'm getting my shit off.
Right, a couple drinks, get it pumped.
Look, and people was like tagging me and shit.
Like da da da da da da da da.
And then it just, it got, I didn't watch all of it
because I couldn't, you know what I mean?
But it went long, the video went long enough
that I was like, okay, he going in on this.
He just really bothered him.
And I was thinking like, we get criticized for a living.
Right.
And I didn't say nothing personal,
but I guess he took it personally.
And I didn't respond,
cause I was like, two reasons I didn't respond.
One, like I don't like the back and forth shit,
especially when you start talking about violence,
like I'm not getting on the internet.
Like, yeah. You were scared.
Terrified. Yeah.
Terrified. You're lucky
and catch you in the garden. It would have went way different. Oh yeah scared. Terrified. Yeah. Terrified. You're lucky he didn't catch you in the guard.
It's a big act.
It would have went way different.
Oh yeah, no, he didn't show no mercy for Mark.
Yeah.
That's probably true.
But unlike you, I squashed it.
You know what I mean?
I stepped up if I know somebody that squashes.
But why did you squash this?
You squashed it?
I did.
That's what I'm saying.
And it was no reciprocity.
Oh, so you brought pieces in his life.
You squashed beefs now?
Yes.
Oh.
Scrooge, yo.
I will say Joe did squash.
Because what happened was, Ak was going crazy.
He was going to smack me on this shit, right?
So I was like, I was calm in public, but in private,
I was on 10.
You were doing push-ups.
So I called Joe.
This is like two years ago.
He was doing curls with books.
Come on, two boys.
I was, I called, I said this before I just didn't mention it was Ak, I called him to
tell me what to do.
This is like two years ago.
And I called him Charlamagne and Van Lathan.
Right?
That's hilarious.
By the way.
But, and I did it.
Yo guys, I need help.
I'm calling up the super friends.
It was like, I was trying to, I was trying to get a little help.
I was trying to get a little help. I was trying to get a little help. I was trying to get a little help. I was trying to get a little help. I was trying to get a little hair. And I did it. Yo, guys, I need help. And you!
I'm calling up the super friends.
It was like, I was trying to, because he said he wanted
to meet up with me to fight.
Right.
So I'm calling up Charlamagne.
Yo, pull up with me.
What the fuck is up with this nigga?
Like, why is he getting into me?
Get him off me, y'all.
Get him off.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
Get him off me, big act.
He called everybody in his home a jack.
Big act.
Big act.
Yes, I love this story.
So I'm calling each one that I thought
was going to hype me up to tell me like, you know,
jump out the window, which is what I was looking for
and excuse to do.
This nigga is laughing.
Because this one I only talked to Joe on the phone
like maybe twice.
You did not call Joe Budden, Charlamagne, and Van Laten
and think that they was going to put a battery in your back. I thought him and fall like maybe twice. You did not call Joe Budden, Charlamagne, and Van Latham and think that they was gonna put a battery in your back.
I thought him and Charlamagne was, I thought Van was.
On paper though, two of those names sound like they might.
Understand, Van texted, Van's the one who texted me the video.
So I had Van back as a courtesy, like, yo, what the fuck,
cause that's his man, like what's up with your man?
I feel like Van might do a little low too.
I think there's an evil Van in there.
There is an evil Van, but Van is reasonable with other people.
Just like me, I wouldn't tell none of y'all
if you did that shit.
Oh shit, I think me and Van squashed.
Well, maybe not think too far.
So I called Joe and Joe was like,
he's like, man, leave that shit alone, man.
Like let that shit go.
You mark on my hill.
Like you can't be out here fighting niggas, right?
And I felt like a dickhead for even mentioning it, right?
Cause I'm like, and then this-
Well, you should have.
Then Charlamagne told me some story about about he started talking about pigs and mud and
some country shit I didn't understand but at the end of the story it seemed
like he didn't want me to he wanted me to leave it alone too and then and then
Van I knew what Van was gonna do so I left it alone I said no no and there's been
other times with him and Vlad have said shit like you know you think in my
career right okay whatever so I ignore all of it didn't care and I was like if you know, you think in my career, right? Okay.
Whatever.
So I ignore all of it, didn't care.
And I was like, if we ever see each other, we'll talk in person.
I'm confident I'm not going to get smacked.
So I'm not letting act do that.
You know, I don't need nobody to let nobody not smack me.
Oh, then I'll unsend the text.
If you don't need that, put the smoke back in. Let me unsend the text. So if you don't need that, put the smoke back in there.
Let me, let me unsend the text.
Now you can do it to him now.
He's any cool
put powder on your hand.
So more importantly, how did you, uh, in the beef?
So basically what happened was the other day,
I guess he made another video about why he didn't come.
He mentioned that he hasn't been coming to JVP.
And now that I'm there, he don't feel comfortable.
And he didn't say comfortable.
Basically, he wasn't coming up here.
And part of it, as I interpreted it, was because I'm here.
Right?
Not like because he got beef, so he
won't be on the set with somebody.
He got beef with that, presumably, right? Wow. Not like, because he got beef, so he won't be on the set with somebody. He got beef with that, presumably is the reason.
And then we went to messy ass spaces
with the JBTV folk, me and Joe was on there on Sunday,
and they-
Told you, go for something that got you.
They raised the issue.
Well no, Mark knows how to space.
Oh, okay.
It's decent, nevermind.
And so they asked me the question,
and I gave the most honest answer I could,
which is I don't have beef wag.
Like I don't have, it's not a personal issue.
I said something that he didn't like, it wasn't personal.
But I went through the whole bit and I said,
I'm not out here trying to beef with anybody
but at 46 years old, but especially another black man,
like that's corny to me.
Like what the fuck we gonna beef about?
And we definitely got nothing to fight about.
You know what I mean?
You said the act has a voice that people want to hear from
yada yada yada. Yeah I said all that and it was sincere. And I called the big homie and the big homie made my
problem go away. Got it okay. So then this morning when I woke up I didn't say none of that in the 50s here.
I didn't do none of that. You my brother, yo. Black on black. Queens get the money.
You went near with all that bullshit.
So at the end of the day, this morning,
right before we started recording this,
I heard Ak respond.
And he basically was like, there's no issue.
Like he said, he thought that I was coming at him personally,
but more importantly, he felt like I was looking down
on his platform and people like him about what they do.
And so he kind of, he's saying he jumped out the window
because he felt like, you know,
like that he worked hard for this platform.
He felt like I was dismissing all of his work
and saying he was worth,
like his platform wasn't worth anything.
And that wasn't what I was,
that was never what I was doing.
You know, I've been in social, in media for a long time
and I respect all platforms.
For me, it's about what they say, not about the platform.
So we ain't got no issue.
So that's it. So again,VP has handled all family business.
Round of applause.
We're in the round.
Y'all got any beats y'all need to settle?
We're in the round of applause.
No beats.
Bitch!
You said bitch!
Yeah I'm a bitch ass nigga!
I'm at the age where I'm comfortable people think I'm bitches. I'm okay with that.
You know what I'm saying? I know I'm comfortable, people think I'm bitches, I'm okay with that. You know what I'm saying?
I know I can fight, I can defend myself.
If something come up, it come up, but other than that.
That's how I feel.
Yeah.
Yo, people are crazy.
Right.
I was reading some comments from the game last night.
Like, what did they think was gonna happen
at Madison Square Garden game two?
Playoffs.
Playoffs, like niggas, do you know what up niggas are?
I was about to say,
with two multimillionaire black men.
Right, both around the floor.
Yeah, like dog.
Yeah, that's crazy.
The only time I've ever seen that happen
was actually with Shannon Sharp
when he was at the LA Lakers game
when he was about to fight,
he was about to fight Jaws dad.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
And.
And they wasn't about to do nothing either. But even the posturing
of looking like he was about to was a lot. Yeah. And it looks like a lot. Speaking of
Shannon and a lot. He just, I know. Yeah. Those that don't know, Shannon Sharp has been
sued civilly for $50 million. I Googled her images too, not just a normal Google.
The woman who-
You got that right.
The woman filed the case as a Jane Doe.
And he un-Jane Doed her.
Right, right, right, I'm just making that clear.
How do you feel about that?
I don't, I haven't-
Puts you in a tough spot.
It's tough because I believe that,
I know why people have Jane Doe's
I I know that victims get harassed they get they get verbally assaulted
They get railroaded they get doxxed and a lot of things happen
I also believe in people having a fair process and I need to be able to confront my accuser and I need to be able
To address my accuser. So for me, it's attention and I don't I don't have an answer for exactly where I land on it
It's kind of case by case basis. Is it circumstantial? Yeah, exactly. So in this case,
in this case, how do you feel about it? I need to know her name, especially given the fact that
Tony Busby is behind this. For me, that is a deal maker. When you hire an attorney who has a history
of doing a certain thing that is unethical
and probably illegal.
How is he still getting this shit off?
Because most celebrities.
He's got a track record.
Yeah, it's his history and the impact.
Most people don't want mud on them.
So he's been successful getting this shit off.
He's been successful all the time.
Yo, he's probably unbeknownst to us.
And he might just be the poster child right this second,
but millions of lawyers across the globe
are getting this off.
Got it, got it.
And that shouldn't take away from the real...
And that's the problem.
That's one of the problems.
Is that it does?
Is that it does.
It shouldn't.
So now what happens when the next celebrity do,
that might unfortunately really do some shit to a woman
It softens the blow because now it's like
Did this really happen? Because the last two people said you get what i'm saying and that's unfortunate to the people that really get
Um violated or or or assaulting. And she may have been again. I don't want to assume that we don't know
Yeah, we don't know. But again true. Yeah, we don't know.
But again, I get your point.
I know seeing 2025 in the docket was a fucking blow to me.
But normally when these come up, it's like, all right, he did this in this year.
She was like, yo, 2025, he was wild.
I was like, god damn.
And it's so many parts to this story.
First, it's the allegation, right?
Obviously, people have a civil suit.
Some people are saying, if it happened in 2025,
why didn't you go to the cops?
There are legitimate reasons why people don't go to police
with sexual assault cases.
So I don't want to assume that somebody
who only sues civilly is lying,
but that's one piece of the case that we have to talk about.
The other piece of it is Shannon comes out with...
Immediately.
Immediately, with his response.
Two pages.
No, no, no.
Before that, timing.
Yes.
Timing is important because Shannon Sharp just got announced that he was potentially
looking at a $100 million deal.
Yes, a huge deal.
And I would like, that's where my focus is.
Right, so the timing of that, that's one.
And then you sue for 50 million.
So him inking that deal or him settling out,
that's the motivator.
Like, yo dog, we'll go away so you can go get you 100.
Give me eight, give me 10.
You get what I'm saying?
Like we're gonna sue for 50, but we'll really take 10.
We'll really take seven.
It's a timing thing.
It's even better than that sometimes.
Sometimes it's what you said, but it's also look,
give me five and we're good.
But if I go public, I'm gonna ask for 50
and you might not get the hundred.
That's the thing, not what I'm saying.
Now we're gonna leverage your hundred million dollar.
It's extortion.
I would like to focus on that for a second at the risk of, uh,
which piece I know we talk about a sensitive subject, but I want to focus on
the timing with his announcement of a hundred million dollars and so forth and
so on. Um, because I've just seen that happening too much and I have to ask,
where are these announcements coming from and why do we need them?
I've never heard him announce it. He might have. I didn't see anything where he publicly
announced it. You know the rumor mill is like um Woj. You know what I'm saying? Or Shans
that'll announce some potential shit coming up because it makes for good media. It's clickbaity.
All right, that was halfway a rhetorical question.
I didn't really want to answer.
Oh, no, no, I'm just saying,
that's where we are in society.
Assuming that Shannon's deal is up,
which is what they're saying,
you would assume that he's in a negotiation stage,
which is normally when these drops start to happen of reports,
someone close to the situation knows and who knows what Shannon wants and what he
is looking for and why would they announce it? I feel like usually that's
their own team using it as a type of leverage pull to let somebody somewhere
know that this is the ballpark that we want to be in.
They'll come over here talking about 20 million dollars.
Or we'll over inflate what we really want. Let's say he wants 50.
I don't think he wants 100.
You know what I'm saying? The publicist who throw it out there that he's negotiating for 100,
that might be his team doing it.
And I'm not going to say what he is or isn't worth because I don't think that's right get as
much as you forget all of it, but this is a
We're familiar with it as a negotiation tactic on one side like y'all have said
So on the flip side of that not to be this person
But one
If I want to devalue that, there's a history in this country of putting out stories
where we can shit on you.
I'm not saying that that's what the volume is doing or that they're responsible for this,
but I think that people should stop announcing the money that they're looking for because
this is what comes with it. It's the gift and the money that they're looking for, because this is what comes with it.
It's the gift and the curse.
So you're trying to negotiate to get a higher coin,
but somebody's gonna come along
and make sure that now you're just done
and that coin that you think you was getting,
it's like pointless, it's just no reason for it.
It puts you in more danger. It put you at more risk to announce it
I used to go to like real estate seminars and shit, right and they said that it's people out here that literally read the obituaries
Like lawsuits is a hustle. It's a hustle for some niggas, right?
So you'll read the obituary and let's say it says real estate tycoon passes away
He leaves his family a net fortune of $200 million.
There's a lawyer that will backdate a suit,
go file that shit for four million.
Right, just say four million, something like,
dog, now your shit gonna go on probate.
So now we gonna say, yo, we suing you for four million,
for whatever, this shit gonna hold up you getting 300,
400 million dollars.
What the kids typically do, I'll be like, yo,
tell them we'll give them two million dollars to go away
so that we can get on with our estate shit.
Because it's all, not free money, but it's all property.
Because now we could literally be in probate
for three, four, five years and tie up your bread.
You want the 300 million or you want to give me 2.5.
We'll settle for 2.5.
And niggas will get, that's a scam.
And that's Tony Busby's approach.
He goes to celebrities behind the scenes and says,
look, I got some allegations against you.
Pay me now. Pay me now.
Or it's going to go public.
Knowing that just the public smut on your name.
It's going to fuck up business.
Well, fuck up business.
You may lose more fighting the case,
even if you're innocent than otherwise.
Again, I'm not saying this woman wasn't harmed.
I don't know her.
I don't know the case.
I don't know them well enough to say.
But again, picking Tony Busby, just picking that kind of lawyer, to me, automatically
marks you.
If you are a victim of sexual assault, and I mean this sincerely, please don't pick Tony
Busby because it just doesn't do you...
Certainly not right now.
Not right now.
And probably never.
It doesn't do you any favors. right now. Not right now. And probably never. It doesn't do you any favors.
Shannon did something interesting though to me.
He posted on Instagram his immediate response.
In all of his freaky ass texts.
Right.
He posted the text messages from the woman.
I'm not mad at that neither.
I ain't mad at all.
I don't like it.
Listen, it's something that I wouldn't do.
We wouldn't normally do that. But yo, when you fighting for your life, my nigga, it's something that I wouldn't do. We wouldn't normally do that.
But yo, when you fighting for your life, my nigga,
it's a different ball game.
Y'all niggas need to stop.
I'm not done doubling down on the point.
Y'all announce your money for what?
I'm not off of that yet.
I ain't.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
Because the white dudes don't do it.
And when they do it, it's a lie.
Joe Rogan has fucked up the black community.
I'ma just say it.
I'm not stopping you.
I'm not stopping you.
And usually, you know I don't rock on the racial shit.
The white niggas don't have to do it
because they getting equity
and they getting farther up the ladder.
They don't have to prove they worth.
We gotta prove our worth publicly
just to get table scraps.
If fucking Stephen A. Smith was white,
he wouldn't have to show I got $100 million.
He would have got $100 million eight years ago.
So now the blacks are showing other blacks,
yo, come on, I'm showing you what we making
so that y'all can now go to the table and barter better.
It's wrong. Bro, we shouldn't have to do it can now go to the table and barter better. It's wrong.
Bro, we shouldn't have to do it.
I'm saying that it shouldn't be done.
If Joe Budden show other podcasters potentially what he was making, that would inspire other
podcasters to be like, if Joe could do it, I know it's a hopes and a glimpse that I could
potentially get there.
Joe did that.
That's why you see so many living room sets that pretend to be Parks is old basement.
Which is a great thing. Joe Budden did to be Parks is on which is a great thing
Joe button did it already know which is a great scene it they say oh this crack a bum nigga
Every interview but what I'm saying to you is I did that and nobody still know what I mean
Now listening I'm talking about now at the negotiating table. It's another level. I didn't do it then no listen
I'm up if you had done that if that knowledge if you shared your knowledge about now at the negotiating table is another level. I didn't do it then. No. Listen to my point.
If you had done that, if that knowledge,
if you shared your knowledge.
Listen, I'm talking about financially.
If a nigga had an inkling, then now a nigga could say, yo,
maybe I'm not Joe, but I might look at myself
as a 10th of Joe, or a third of Joe, or a half of Joe.
So now when I go to these tables,
I could know more of my worth and I can negotiate better.
Based off something Joe got, you could be the bar.
Then let's have that conversation privately
the way that I've had it with so many podcasters already.
I've had this conversation with most of the black podcasters
out there privately.
The only problem is the young and up and comers
can't get a hold of you.
You know what I'm saying? No, and the black podcasters can't get a hold of you. You know what I'm saying?
No, and the black podcasters can't get a hold of Joe.
Joe's gonna go talk to about five of these niggas, if five.
Dog, six years of this podcast has been
Joe Budden making it in real time.
And Joe Budden having to make the right decision
at a crossroads with these companies and yada yada yada.
It's been the companies saying, hey, we'll pay you this, but please keep it quiet
because we don't want to pay the other companies.
Then like, you do not have,
the only time I see creators do this
is when they're in a deep negotiation
for a whole lot of money.
And in that instance, the gift is a curse.
Like that's what I was trying to say earlier,
but I was fumbling on my words.
In that instance, the gift is a curse. Your worth's what I was trying to say earlier, but I was fumbling on my words. In that instance, the gift is a curse.
You're worth, I'm not talking about Shannon,
because I don't want to say what his worth is.
I'm not in the business of-
Just anybody.
They're going to give you 60.
You want a buck 20.
What you're putting at risk by announcing to a public
that you want 120 is not going to be worth the reward
when you're already worth the 50 to 60. You're already one of the best in the business. Stephen
A is a different case. He's the best in the business and has been there for 15 years and
has watched so many other people coming into it. Pat McAfee just sent a shot his way or had somebody on the
wrestling dude to send his shot his way.
He's in a different boat.
He's in a different boat.
He, Stephen A's in a different boat.
The rest of us, dog.
I think aside from the money thing, people got to learn to freaky better.
To do what?
Freaky better.
You got to freaky a little bit safer.
Or discreetly.
Yeah. To do what? Freaky better. You gotta freaky a little bit safer. Or discreetly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm saying Joe Rogan has black podcasters
throwing around the words 100 million
like we talking about sardines.
True, but I think that the way
that the Stephen A. Smith shit was handled,
if you saw results come from that,
then your media team is gonna try, even if he's not
Stephen A. Smith, to emulate some of that.
Joe, you saying that he might really want 60 and put it out to the world that I want
100.
You understand what I'm saying?
Okay, so now you're the same way that you think you're signaling to the companies, you're
signaling to bottom feeders.
I'm not disagreeing.
I'm agreeing with you that I'd say give it a go.
I'm telling you this as somebody that has gone through
something similar that I can't talk about,
that I would love to talk about.
But actually, you know what?
I was sued over my dog biting somebody back in the day.
I've told this story here too about sin fucking,
hey, is there a nail, is there a nail tech in the day. I've told this story here too about sin fucking hey is there
is there nail tech in the area and having a stranger just come to your house and now you got
a can corso and now that person but my lawyer at that time explained to me yo dog seven thousand
dollars to people on a quick shot a quick claim yeah you can't sleep on what it does to people.
Yeah.
And if you saying that about seven and 10 and 15 grand,
then imagine what you're saying about 20, 40, 50, 100, 200,
300 grand to people that know that they never gonna see
that money. Sure, I agree.
Yeah.
It's well worth it to fucking just go throw a lie
on a nigga.
I'm super paranoid when it come to this.
That's why you should do it.
I try not to hang around girls
I ain't supposed to hang around talk to be why I ain't supposed to talk to I ain't just it got to be some level of trust
Bus to even have any communication because the stakes is too high. I mean today now so now poor Shannon, right poor poor Shannon
Some people think that the volume might have put this out to step on his shit
But even if they didn't this steps on his negotiation for sure it does it does whether true or not true
I still feel for Drew ski who just put something out that said
Your dog when these claims came out about me on the day
Not only did I have 91 cent I was in Atlanta they claim I was in Los Angeles
It just couldn't be true, but it don't mean nothing.
The damage is done.
Yeah. That's the point.
As soon as you say it, the damage is done.
Respectable companies have to take a step back
just because of what we-
Optics. True.
Yeah, dog, if anybody, if somebody pop up tomorrow
and say, ish blank to me.
Yeah.
You my man, I don't think you did that.
I was around, nigga, you was getting fixed. And you was, I would be really shocked in the ball.
If you were doing it, I was there for some of your glory days.
I don't even put that, but I would have to take a, I would have to,
universe. Yeah, I'm not. So knock on something,
but I would have to have on come to talk with you. Hey,
got to step back, buddy. Go build houses and get the fuck away from me.
So I want to read these. I'm going to read, uh, Hey, gotta step back buddy, go build houses and get the fuck away from there. Make it wrong.
So I want to read these. I'm going to read.
We gotta get the text. I'm gonna. Yeah, I'm going to read these out
and right now at the time of this, they're saying that
there's audio out. Yeah, we got to share that apology address situation already.
Oh yeah, we do. I'll play address situation already. Oh yeah, we do
the outplay that and then I'll get into some of the text that were sent from
Shannon defending himself. Let's see here we go to my family friends,
supporters and colleagues. I want to speak to you directly and from the heart.
This is a shakedown. I'm going to be open, transparent and defend myself
because this isn't right. This is all being orchestrated by Tony Busby, who is targeted Jay-Z.
Tony Busby targets black men,
and I believe he's going to release a 30-second clip
of a sex tape that tries to make me look guilty
and play into every stereotype you could possibly imagine.
That video should actually be 10 minutes or so.
Hey, Tony, instead of releasing your edit,
put the whole video out. I don't have it or I would myself. You know what happened and
you're trying to manipulate the media. The encountering question took place
during the day at her invitation and now that appears to be a deliberate setup.
Coordinated by Gabby, also known as Carly on OmniFans. Gabby and Tony Buzzbees
won $50 million. What they're getting soo for defamation and trying to take me down.
My career is all about real talk and honesty.
I know my family and fans know exactly what this is about.
And I'm going to be out there telling you whatever I need to say just like I always
do.
I love all of you guys.
What do y'all think of his statement?
I'm in support.
I think it's bold.
I'm in support.
And I like it, though.
I think that the shit that Jay-Z did
is going to start being the norm for somebody that's innocent.
I don't know.
Again, I don't want to say innocent or guilty bag,
but I think that's going to start being the norm.
For people that got enough money to fight it,
I think they're gonna step in front of it and not cower.
I'm letting the successful black men out there know
that they are coming through you through your dick.
Yeah, true.
Yeah, you got freaky better.
Cause this nigga's freaky.
Yeah, we've seen it.
Yeah, Michelle told us.
She said it. Michelle told us that he was freaky.
And now you want, you got the OnlyFans chick.
He just put her OnlyFans out.
You know, known as Carly on what is going on.
Oh my God, this is crazy.
These texts, man.
I'll read it.
I'll read these texts.
Oh my Lord.
Jesus, Mary and Joe, sorry.
No, no, he wrote two pages of Microsoft Word documents
about the text.
Okay.
The text go as
she says, only if you put that baby gravy in me,
then I can do whatever I want to me.
See right there, I'm stopping the sexting.
Don't say baby gravy.
Baby gravy is wild.
That's my point.
That's these niggas is too freaky.
Yeah.
So keep in mind, she's very young.
At the time they met, she was 19 and he's in his 50s.
I don't know how old she is at the time
these texts are being sent.
It says 2023, 2024, 2024.
Like there's dates now.
So that's 19.
Either way you being too fucking freaky nigga.
Baby gravy tells me you...
Yo don't talk to no girl that's texting baby gravy to you.
That sounds like the 40 year old virgin nigga.
Right.
She continues.
I'm from Alabama somewhere.
I want to put my tongue in your asshole then marry you.
I mean salute but that's dog you niggas that's trying to get 100 and 200 million dollars
from somebody get up a day.
There's got to be a better way on January 12, 2024. That's my daddy.
Fuck. I want you to put this. I want you to put a big black baby in me. See,
this sounds like 40 old virgin. No, no. When she started talking that baby shit
because a couple of them text messages started talking about, yo, I want you to come in me.
I want you to put a baby in me, all that other shit.
That sounds like money grab to me.
Yes, it does.
It sounds like money grab, and I'm gone.
Like, I would have said.
Yeah, but Shannon is old and from Alabama.
Where's Shannon from?
Georgia.
He from this country.
Yeah, and they might have called him ugly growing up.
Like, he probably just getting into his hay day.
I feel like she's been active for a little while.
I think it's a hall of fame in the field. He's been in the,
he's been in Baltimore, bro. All of that is great. That's y'all.
That's y'all's point of view. I think I've heard him say before,
I'm sure it's kicked up a notch with the media.
He's more famous than he's ever been.
Yeah. Y'all tell me about when he had a helmet on.
with the media thing. Yeah, he's more famous than he's ever been.
He's more famous than he's ever been.
Yeah, y'all talking about when he had a helmet on.
They got it.
Anyway, she continues.
You better crave it,
because you're going to be stuck with it for life
after you put a big black baby.
See, red flag.
These are huge red flags.
Yeah, yeah.
She continues.
Oh no, that was it.
No, there's more, but I don't see it here.
But there's one way she was saying that is-
And she's not black, right? No, she's not black. Yeah, cuz I like people don't talk like that
No, there's one with how many black girls told you put a big black baby in me. They don't say that. Well, he don't know
that's crazy.
The black girls, they don't talk like that. Why Shannon don't just get on black or there's one way she's saying matter to
Jim to see Jim had be had asked niggas. These are all like red flag and steroid
had niggas just getting got by Amazon tights on and that horny as the old
nigga.
I sent you the other page that that was more to set up stuff, but that is
where she mentions
twenty five thousand per cheek. Now that's what you tricking niggas is
paying that
who's you tricking niggas? I know you miss this big juicy ass twenty five
thousand for each cheek.
I want you to put a dog collar around my neck and choke me with that stop talking to the bitch. The second ago over thirty five
it
for the whole ass. Right. Not even for the experience.
This should be. I should be getting all I can eat
for thirty five hundred. Yo, you front. I'm not front. The right buffet could
get six thousand out of you, right buffet can get more than that
Oh
Nigga nigga $25,000 a cheek. I haven't entered that that wait first of all
This is not me sure I'm planning marriage. This is mo button
I'm planning to get married shout them off
But even if me and my girl is on some freaky shit, because that's what I do with me and my girl,
it wouldn't be 25,000 first cheek.
That's 50 grand for an experience.
That's a lot.
That's somebody looking for a money grab.
Yeah, for sure.
All this stuff says money grab.
And if he's paying it,
see, but I don't be mad at the girls
that find an old rich nigga and get them.
I don't, I respect the game.
Yeah, me too. If you that damn, yeah. and get them. I respect the game.
Me too.
If you that damn, anyway.
It gets tricky.
I'm not mad.
25, she didn't look like, you know what, go ahead Mark.
That's why I'm glad Mark is here now.
I want to establish this though, because again, I happen, I don't trust anybody who has Tony
Busby as their attorney because of the history. These texts, these things, the limited exchange I had with Shannon yesterday about this, all of it suggests to me that I
should be skeptical. That said, the thing I don't like about the way we're talking about,
not on the show but in the public, is this assumption that because she's freaky, because
she wants to get choked with a dog collar, that she couldn't happen, you can be, you can like
rough sex and get sexually assaulted. You can like rough sex and get sexually assaulted.
That's true.
You can be freaky and get sexually assaulted.
You can be a sex worker and get sexually assaulted.
You could have wanted all that shit to happen yesterday.
And then today you decide you don't want that no more.
You can decide right now,
I don't want it to happen in two minutes from now.
You know what I mean?
So I just want to establish that
regardless of what happens on this case,
this does not mean that we should not listen
to the voices of people who make these allegations
and who engage in things that we may see
as off the straight path.
This still doesn't make you eligible
for any of the awful shit that she's accusing him of doing.
That's all I want to say.
That's true.
True.
People that live a life that we not living shit.
This is my bag outside of some of these words.
Outside of some of these words, cheese.
Outside of the gravy.
Say, hey, who's to say after 9 p.m. I won't go see what the OnlyFans are looking like.
I'll unfollow a few bitches over there too.
No, but that was a great point. I'm glad that you said that.
No, of course.
Shannon releasing these texts don't say that it didn't happen.
That's true.
So we don't know.
We reserve the right to make judgment later after more details come out
and prayers to everyone involved, but god damn.
And to anybody with something to lose,
be careful, yo.
Be careful, it is not worth that much.
Rub it out.
Save your baby, baby.
Rub it out.
Put some gravy baby in some paper towels somewhere.
Exactly.
Live a happy life.
And listen, for the women out there, right?
In the great words of our sister Mel,
you never know what a predator looks like.
So, just want to be careful.
That's true too.
What, that's bad?
What you saying?
Nope, I had a wildly inappropriate joke.
Can you do something?
Evil Mark.
Evil Mark was like.
Ah, ah, ah, ah.
Evil Mark. Evil Mark was like.
Ah!
Ah!
Ah!
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Yo His name is Stefan Wardell
If you saw that game one
That little I will not I will not allow people to talk negatively about Stefan Wardell curry
I don't even know if he human. Yeah I will not allow people to talk negatively about Stephen Wardell Curry around me.
I don't even know if he human, yo.
He might got some other stuff in him.
That was great D that they was playing on him.
Some of them shot.
That shit is...
That baseline falling out of bounds just throw it in the air.
I would snuff him.
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Anyway, what we don't want to go he is he come sit down the couch
He normally is scared of this main show action
Yeah, I know we was talking last night
He normally is scared of this main show action. That's true.
I don't know.
We was talking last night.
We came on night school, and one of the people on night school
asked if he had any thoughts on your Madison Square Garden
appearance.
Oh.
And he said he was going to save it for today.
And here's today.
Look at that.
What do you know?
Would you look at that?
Look at you.
And you get to sit next to me.
I smell your cologne.
Aw.
You got to give him the two-pack
I'm glad you good
Those were one of the days I was glad
Welcome Imani
Well, let's shot me and shawdeh get to it she she hold it there I was I was worried for you a little bit little word. You didn't text me
Now I want to see me text
Because I was back there you know fat Joe takes
Every time that nigga put his phone up. I wonder what fat Joe
50 with a slid you in Madison Square Garden.
If 50 would have hit ****.
They'll take it out.
Come on. Come on.
I got you. I got you.
But I already had to. You had to play it out, right?
That's funny.
Yo, this whole 50 shit, all this 50 shit did was show me just how many people are indeed
waiting with bated breath.
You get snuffed.
No, no, no.
They seen that already.
Twice even.
They've seen that before and somehow it's not enough.
They want to see they, cause my mom had a fit, they want to see they cause my mom outfit.
They want to see me take a beat down. Punks jump up to get beat brand new.
Being they want to see that somewhere with bright lights and cameras. They want
it. They want to get the footage. They want a bad video of me. Boy,
I wonder what, what if I say you talk talk a lot of shit, that's why.
I know, what I do?
It's part of the job, man.
I do talk a lot of shit, but the shit I be wanting to say
is worse.
You're too old to do what we told you to do before.
What?
Which was just slide somebody.
It don't matter.
It don't matter.
I mean, I think that might help a little bit.
It won't.
A little bit.
It don't take away the-
That might make it worse.
A person that people think can't fight
or be not with the bullshit,
if you give them one little glimpse
that you can really slide somebody,
it might change the narrative a little bit.
They don't think you can.
They don't think you can.
It'll change the narrative that he cannot fight,
but the other niggas still want to see him get his ass with.
For sure.
They ain't gonna stop that.
They might raise it a little bit.
Yo, don't.
Everybody want to see Floyd get his ass with.
Exactly, watch.
They know he can fight.
Yeah. Is the narrative that you can. Exactly, watch all of his fights. They know he can fight.
Is the narrative that you can't fight,
I never heard that narrative.
No, it's only Armani and my other friends that spread that.
I never heard that.
It's only my real friends that spread that narrative.
Not a narrative isn't that he can't fight.
It might be, maybe, might be pussy or something.
Wow, that clears it up.
That makes it better.
That's way better.
Man, thanks for joining the main. Thanks for joining the main show, man.
It's good to see you up here.
I would say I left the game a little early.
Who won?
You did.
You did.
Rap won, nigga.
Yo, the fans.
The culture won.
Oh my God, yo.
My last lot. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. Rap one, nigga. Yo, the fan, the culture one.
The fan's culture one.
Oh my God, yo.
My last line.
He tried to hit us with the game,
it was a blowout, so I left.
I didn't say it was a blowout.
You said it was decided.
It wasn't close.
I said it was decided to me.
It wasn't.
Didn't they lose like, by like six points?
No, nigga.
Yo, dog, they was one three away from tying the game up.
He left with eight minutes left in the fourth game, five points.
Carl was out.
Yeah, it's going to get more minutes every time I tell this story.
The crowd was outside, right?
No, so was Double Park.
Wait till I get home.
Baby, it was halftime.
So was Double Park.
They didn't even eat the buffet.
I know.
So was Double Park.
You had reservations.
Yeah, the reservations.
That's what it is.
Reservations are always doing it.
Yeah, reservations are about staying until the end of the game.
Can't miss a super.
Can't miss a super. I I gotta get out of here.
This room.
Can't miss this room, bro.
They had a special strawberry mint.
That watermelon mint will get you every time.
That's good.
I wanted to leave earlier than that,
but I knew y'all niggas were stupid.
And so I said to myself, all right,
I think they put me on TV.
So they're just going to flash to this pan to this empty seat,
and then it's going to be jokes. With seven minutes left in a tight game in the playoffs So they just gonna flash to this pan to this empty seat
and then it's gonna be jokes.
With seven minutes left in a tight game
in the playoffs that you spent the time for.
Yo tell them to put some respect in your celebrity too.
I ain't like to see that when they doing
the celebrity rose shit and they did the 50 shit,
I just had to see you in the back like this.
They probably threw him on the kiss cam and shit.
Come on, that's my celebrity shit.
That's fucked up. He was in the kiss cam.
He was in the celebrity.
Yeah, that's funny, sir.
My bad, my bad.
It's the rugby, man.
Yo, that's funny, bro.
He was waiting on the kiss cam.
And they play Pump It Up.
They play Pump It Up and all that.
They did play Pump It Up.
Yo, yo, yo.
Well, one, we've long as to go with Stabbers, the Garden don't fuck with me like that.
Yo, you gotta hit that hard.
That's what I'm saying.
You gotta hit that hard. They did pump it up and all that. They did. Yo, yo, yo. Got a, mmm. You know what I mean?
Well one, we've long as to go establish the garden don't fuck with me like that.
Yo, you gotta hit that hard.
That's what?
The garden don't fuck with me like that.
You ain't.
Feet on the wood.
Make the back go.
Oh, feet not on the wood.
Carpet.
Mmm, that's true.
I just want to tell anyone hate listening that I'm okay with my life.
Pretty good seats.
I see some niggas say, oh, look where he's sitting. listening that I'm okay with my life. Pretty good seats.
Seats and niggas say, oh, look where he's sitting.
I got to the seats and was like, oh shit, we lit.
Hey, Josh Hart, let's go.
I got to the seats and became an instant fucking groupie.
Let's go, Mitch.
Fucking y'all talking about?
Horrible seats, Jesus.
Did you see the game with 50 in front of you?
This is a serious question, there's no shame in that.
I'm just saying, a lot of times it looked like you,
like when 50 stood up to cheer,
it looked like you just had to ask him what happened.
Like, what's it like back there?
I was able to see the game from her.
Okay, okay, okay. I just wonder.
I'm not even used to Diggas playing.
But you just got to take it.
It's Ohio.
You just got to take it.
They raise them up a little bit.
It's like the movies.
The funny part, right, just in your natural assessment of things when risk is involved.
The garden security, when you're in that section,
there is garden security right there
to make sure you don't do nothing stupid
around the players, right?
Right.
At risk of being banned from the gardens,
let me tell you, in the event that 50 say-
You knew what every one of them niggas was.
Yeah.
Come on.
All I gotta do is grab them.
All I gotta do is grab them. All I gotta do is grab him.
Hey Larry.
Larry! Jerry get this nigga!
Not at all.
In the event that 50 Cent
decided to get angry in there
it wasn't nothing
than none of them garden security dudes
damn I want to choke.
It's like the niggas at the fair
that work the roller coasters over there.
Oh shit, they got carneys doing security?
So if he decided to do something,
yeah, I would have had to thug it out for a little while.
It's like when I fought in fucking Dream.
That fight was going on forever before security came.
It might have seemed like forever.
No, it was forever.
I'm sitting here holding this nigga on the ground like,
hey, any day y'all want to come get this nigga off me so I could get up would be awesome.
That's important to fight. No, I'm on that.
You ain't lying. You ain't lying.
And tucking that head.
That was also the best possible place to run into him.
To see him in the event that it was something, because I know that that's the joke.
I'm rolling with it was never nothing.
But if it was something. because I know that that's the joke, I'm rolling with it was never nothing. But if it was something, what a good place.
I mean, me, Billy Joel, Billy Crystal.
Yeah.
All the Billy's.
If you're going to do something to me
in front of Billy Crystal, nigga,
you just might got it.
You're bold, nigga.
Yeah.
That's funny, so.
Good, though. That's good. But I would say for money, thank you. It's funny, so. Good though, that's good.
But I was safe, Imani, thank you.
It's good, man.
I love all my friends checking on me the next day.
Nah, I stopped checking on you.
Why?
After the last time I checked on this nigga,
he was like, don't check on me.
All right, you got it.
Yeah, you did.
He said that, so I stuck to your word.
I know how to move, man.
I know, I see.
I know how to move.
Nigga, four of the games over, yeah, we get it. Bet Larratt a bob and move, man. I know, I see. I know how to move. You better learn how to bob and weave, nigga.
My method is in prevention.
You know what I mean?
That nigga start hugging Shidae real tight.
I see that nigga like, not in front of my kids,
not in front of my lady.
It's always hard to do it.
It's always hard to keep me safe.
Sade said, man, they're like, she ready for the smoke too.
That's how you fuck with Sade.
No, that's my baby, man.
Salute.
We had a really sunset bar.
That's funny, son.
That's hilarious.
That's the kind of drunk you want to be.
Yeah, for sure. Well, that mean that they expecting some dick That's hilarious. That's funny, son. That's hilarious. That's the kind of drunk you want to be.
Yeah, for sure.
Well, that means that they're expecting some dick that you might not be prepared to give
to.
Oh, I hate that.
Yeah, you got to wave that out.
Just hope they pass out.
Yeah, for sure.
She didn't.
Nah, that's what you get.
The toy was charged.
You want to smoke?
Good night.
What?
Directly to bed.
Don't pass go.
Yeah, the toy was charged up.
Gay with a noose.
Dudes. Good night. What? Directly to bed. Don't pass go. The toy was charged up.
Okay.
Okay.
But the dudes, dudes.
Wee.
Hey.
A little toy finger combo.
TMI.
I'm going to bed.
I'm going to bed.
And I got to work tomorrow.
Bitches don't be having jobs too.
They want to fuck too.
Four in the morning.
Girl, get off of me.
Anyway.
But I am safe.
We got one of those guys.
We got one of those guys.
We got one of those guys.
We got one of those guys. We got one of those guys. We got one of those guys. We got one in the morning. Girl, get off of me. Anyway, I am
safe. Where y'all want to go? Oh shit, that's funny.
Just to get serious for a second, some sad news obviously for those that care. I know
some Catholics are here, Emane being one of them.
That's true. I'm a retired Catholic.
Yeah, I understand.
Yeah, retired Catholic sweaters.
Still wearing them.
You do look like a mad Catholic right now. He said you look like Jesus. I had a retired Catholic. Yeah, I understand. Yeah, retired Catholic sweaters.
Still wearing them. You do look mad Catholic right now.
They said you look like Jesus, saints in Latter-day.
What does your shit look like?
Mr. Rogers.
This is my probation sweater.
She look like Westchester Catholic.
This is what they say.
You got a little crest on it.
Yeah, nigga, these are WC right here on the pocket.
I'm repping for my guy, Pope Francis today, man.
Oh, okay.
Oh yeah, I see you got the cross out too. Yeah, as I'm saying, you look like an upstanding, man. Oh, okay. Oh yeah, so you got the cross out too.
Yeah, as I'm saying, you look like an upstanding citizen.
The cross, let me see.
This is the one with the ashes too.
Wait, you took your mom off your thing?
This is my mom.
My mom's in here.
So you took your dad off?
No, my mom and my dad.
You got two different chains.
You took somebody.
I have two different chains.
The other one.
The one spins.
Yeah, the spinning one.
You put the spinner in the drawer.
You took the spinner.
Did you drop it to the floor? No. You put the spinner in the drawer. You took the spinner.
Did you drop it to the floor? No.
How do you decide which ashes you go, alright nevermind.
Alright Mark.
Pope Francis passed away on Easter Monday after a long bout with illness.
You know, for a lot of people around the world the Pope
symbolizes so much. He is one of the most progressive Popes we've ever seen.
True. You know, no religious leader is gonna be but so progressive. There's some
conservative stuff with everybody, but when you start talking about health care,
housing, even what's going on in Gaza, Pope Francis is calling over there every
day to the hospitals in Gaza checking on folk. I don't think we've seen a more progressive Pope than Pope Francis and I don't know if
he'll be replaced by one like that, but he is a symbol and a model of what religious
leadership can look like for a lot of people. I got a lot of critiques of the Catholic Church,
but at this moment of mourning, I just want to send love and condolences to all the religious
believers around the world for whom this is a
devastating moment
Wow, yeah, you're the best
You're the best rest in peace. I just would have never got that off
So eloquently we used to send some prayers and play some gap
Okay, play a balloon. Oh, no, rest in peace to the Pope.
On the news, they was showing me the seven options
for the replacement.
I was looking at that shit like the House of Cards, boy.
They was explaining who each person was and their views.
One of them dude, the Hungarian, oh shit, if he get it.
It's over, it's a wrap.
Oh, it's a wrap.
Why?
Oh, rest in peace to Pope Francis.
He the Pope of the Trumps?
He Trump of the Pope's?
The way that they described him was like, what was Trump's old vice president name?
Oh, Mike Pence.
Mike Pence.
Mike Pence.
Well, that fits with the Catholic model.
Oh, man, this guy.
Why did everybody keep saying that JD Vance had gone to see him like a day before or a
few days prior? Well he had.
But why was that so important to share? Were they trying to imply something?
They were fucking saying like he sucked his soul out after that.
For instance, he was ready to go back to the Lord.
There was a lot of black people making them jokes too.
They were quality jokes I gotta say.
I feel like part of being black is making like some good inappropriate jokes.
That's the best time to make jokes.
Yeah.
Kinda.
I had a couple but his were way too mature. His speech was too mature so I chilled.
Yeah, the idea that there could be a black pope is also something that people have been juggling around. I don't think it's gonna happen in our lifetime. I just don't think that...
It will. It will. You think so? I believe so. I believe so. Why? We saw a black president.
I don't think the
We voted for that shit.
Well, it's true. I don't think the Vatican is that far away from
If they got this progressive, I do think
we could potentially see it as something.
They haven't even agreed on the whole touching kids thing yet.
You know what I'm saying?
Agreed?
I'm just saying, they haven't resolved that.
There's so much corruption in these religious institutions
And there's also a lot of racism in them and the idea and I'm saying this about all in religion
I'm not just saying Catholics all religious institutions. I'm watching the ad money just lying around
Yeah, I was just saying
You know what, let's take that back
Make a laugh nigga
That's not the ad money
I will not be responsible for that
And this is exactly who I want to get my Vatican news from,
Monty.
Yo.
Yo.
Yo.
Yo.
Yo.
Yo.
Hey, with Pardons, sometimes niggas just
start talking about shit that is like, eh.
Maybe not your wheelhouse.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's fine.
Get it from Monty and a Muslim.
That's funny, son.
That's hilarious. That's hilarious. right. Get it from a body in a Muslim.
What else is, what else is important? What else is important out there?
I know we don't like to talk Kanye a lot or, or, oh no, this is important, but this one felt, and again, it seems perfect after what we just talked about.
Oh my
Karen you go
Put out this song cousin
That nobody heard. I hear nobody knows that this is a song right nobody has bully
Nobody you're you're it did the trick didn't work this time as far as the music is concerned. I don't think that he could just name a song title
and people be like, oh, okay, yeah,
that's what's going on in that song.
Like, I don't think a lot of people knew, but go ahead.
So he puts out this song, I'm trying to pull up the lyrics
and he says, and trigger warning for anybody who has-
Definitely trigger warning.
Yeah, he said, hanging with my cousin, reading dirty magazines, we seen some niggas kissing, He says, and trigger warning for anybody who has... Definitely trigger warning. Yeah.
He said, hanging with my cousin, reading dirty magazines,
we seen some niggas kissing,
we ain't know what that shit mean.
Then we start reenacting everything that we had seen.
That's when I gave my cousin head,
gave my cousin head, gave my cousin head,
I gave my cousin head, I gave my cousin head.
Can you stop saying it?
I mean, I think it's important to note that he didn't slip that in his line.
He wanted that to be.
I want you to know, I heard the song.
Did it slap?
Yes, on brand.
Of course, Imani heard the song.
I needed to understand, was this being said in like a therapeutic way or something?
It's hard, like you should not hear the song.
Was there melodies underneath this?
It's auto-tune of him singing, I can't hear my head, I can't hear my head.
Yo let me ask you a question.
Oh no now you sold me.
Hey that's a clip by me.
Now you sold me.
Nigga you gon' be on the internet forever with that shit.
It's horrible yo.
How do you metaphorically use head to personify something else?
This nigga would not let YG get for two weeks.
YG couldn't be a victim for two weeks before Kanye said,
you know what, I need in on that.
That's one, two, which really should have been one.
I gotta say, for me, this is the greatest,
Okay, for me, this is the greatest,
oh, that explains it, that I've ever come across. Yeah.
Yo, if anybody out there at any time says,
yo, when I was young, I sucked my cousin Dick
until I was 14, I'm gonna say, oh,
that explains a thing. Anything you do after that oh. That explains something.
Anything you do after that, it probably explains something.
Yeah, like I think that Kanye really exonerated Dogg.
First of all, I'm sorry that that happened to Kanye,
and I wanted you to know.
Hey, this cousin.
Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
I mean, he molested his cousin.
Who are we sorry for?
He molested his cousin.
He's the molester in this case, if you think about it.
The cousin is younger than him. Just because you get in the head don't mean you not get molested his cousin. Who are we starting for? He molested his cousin. He's the molester in this case, if you think about it.
The cousin is younger than him.
Just because you get in the head don't mean you're not getting molested.
We got a lot of-
The cousin's younger.
I thought it was his older cousin.
No.
Kanye was the older cousin in this situation doing this to his younger cousin.
Oh, that's why you're in Japan.
He got to go to jail.
It's important to read the second verse too, because this is what Kanye's talking about
in the interview or on his tweets, which he elaborated on.
He said, I know these niggas about to judge me now.
Check.
Started off when we was hanging out,
told my cousin not to tell nobody.
Please tell me, people tell me take it to my grave.
Truth will set you free someday.
I don't think they understand
that I'm not attracted to a man.
Now this cousin, for context,
is in jail for murder, murdering a pregnant woman allegedly,
that's Courtney Conyay, and he believes that perhaps what he did to his cousin, what happened
with him and his cousin contributed to the path that his cousin took. So this is about, and to me
when I hear this, this Conyay as abuser, Conyay as male... of course if you're a kid y'all both
going through some fucked up shit, a whole, they all fucked up, but the cousin was the victim here.
Yeah.
There's so much to unpack here.
A lot of people are sending words of sympathy and,
you know,
to the jail?
To, no, to Kanye, I'm like, he's not,
I mean, don't get me wrong, he is a victim
because of the age, but the person who's really
the victim in this situation is the cousin.
We need to be speaking to that. Yeah.
He's probably blindsided in prison.
And who the hell, like I didn't want you to go ahead and tell that story.
I'm just saying you might go visit the child hall.
Somebody say, Oh, he was like, you got some explaining to do or not,
or not, or her nigga might've been sucking his cousin dick when he heard,
heard this. Oh, that's what your skills came from.
Oh, that's what your skills came from?
Oh.
I don't even feel right making jokes about this.
I don't.
This is a total...
It's not a joke about...
No.
And Kanye has displayed some behavior, deserving us some adjectives.
Yeah.
This is going to sound fucked up to say, and I probably shouldn't say it, but I'm going
to say it anyway. I can't wait for the day where we can really have a real honest conversation about Kanye when he is not able to give us any more stories.
All right, that sounds horrible to say. I'm sorry. I'm saying it like that.
But I'm just saying I want to be able to give a real honest opinion on a positive and
a negative side and I feel like I'm adding fuel to the fire and I feel like the more that he just
keeps doing things we never really get a chance to have a real honest conversation about how we
feel about Kanye and some of the things he's done. Like we have this love for his music and this
love for some of the things he's done in
the past and we kind of keep trailing with it. Who's we? Well the general pop. I'm not saying...
I don't think so. I'm not saying us. I'm just saying for me having a conversation about him
today is becoming difficult because every time I try to give him certain level of grace or
understanding something else pops up and I'm like, back to like ground zero with him.
That's just where I'm at.
The one thing that's been disturbing about this tweet
and song is that so many more people were okay
with the Nazi shit, but then when the Suck and Dick came out,
they were like, nah, this is where I draw the line.
Like, what?
Right.
I agree. The Suck and Dick part is the minor part of the whole shit. We talking about incest and we talking about molestation.
Yeah, yeah, that part.
At the end of the day.
So that's the other part of this conversation that's bothering me.
Like, yo, you niggas don't understand this is some serious shit and he's choosing to
go to Twitter and put this in a...
You have to hear the song just for you to understand why I'm saying that.
It doesn't even come off like a sincere thing of like, I feel fucked up at what I did.
Like he's harmonizing.
I don't want to harmonize over I gave my cousin head.
Right.
But if it needs a harm.
It's like, come on, Kanye.
I mean, the slap for the slap.
Sometimes you got to have some... you gotta approach some sincere
shit in a sincere way if you really sincere about it. He did always have that defined jawline.
When he was singing that ego remix y'all felt like it was...
He was just... He was nasty. He was nasty. It was too real. What if Ye's shit was he?
Joe.
What if Ye was the fire headbuttler?
That's disgusting right?
Oh my god.
It just made me look at some shit differently.
That's all.
Anyway.
I hope everybody that needs help gets the help that they need and deserve and hopefully
Does it in places other than tweets and songs that people don't hear? Yeah and podcasts and podcasts
There's a lot of places that the therapy and help doesn't need to be
podcast tweets I think niggas often I
think he's a
Starving for some level of attention and the masses are starting
not there was like four inappropriate jokes right in that one
leave it alone it's tough to be mature right now it really is it really is it
really is um Easter first of all are y'all Easter followers Easter people
y'all do Easter stuff it It's a pagan, huh?
Okay, okay.
So no Easter egg hunts.
Happy resurrection day.
Who can afford eggs right now?
Happy 420.
Gotta get the plastic chips.
420 was celebrated.
Happy 420.
My family is Christian, so they celebrate it.
You can afford the weed, but not the eggs.
Yeah, the weed's cheaper than the eggs right now.
Weed might be cheaper right now.
It is.
For sure.
I didn't partake.
It doesn't hit the same like it used to as a kid.
Tradition is just dumbed down.
You can throw out no fly shit.
You know, back then, you used to throw in pastel shit.
So we used to do.
Go to church.
Go to the egg.
Eat the egg.
Hunt shit.
It's not around anymore.
So it was Easter. It was 420, it was also Luther
Vandross birthday. I'm sure y'all don't get what the latter, but y'all do 420 shit? I definitely did
420 shit. I know you don't. My friend owns a weed farm and a dispensary upstate, that's where I
was. So they had a little party. I got ripped. You was plucking your own? No, it's not grown yet. It's early in the season. Salute to
Wizards, I smoked some of that on 420. I was fucked up.
Really? Yeah, that's too strong for me.
I can't smoke that. But yeah, 420 I got twisted. Same. It was, nah, it hit.
Like too much. You scared? You scared? Like I turned into a bunny.
I'm no more.
No more.
Uh uh.
Give me the med.
You gotta be careful where you're turning into a bunny at, man.
Were you in a safe place?
I was home.
Good.
Do that shit in the house.
That's it?
I ain't saying nothing bad.
Don't be in that church.
The second I got old enough to tell my mom,
I'm not going to church with you, my G,
that was over for Easter.
There was no more Easter.
That might've been.
Life's great.
Yeah, 14.
Yeah, 15.
Yeah.
It was like, you know what?
I'm not gonna keep going to shit that you make me.
New Year's Eve in church, ah, rap city.
It's a rap for that.
It's a rap for that. A rap for that.
Christmas tree going up, I deaded that one.
I wasn't with none of that shit growing up.
Damn.
Did you get festive again, like with your own kids
or with your lady, like do y'all do like the holiday stuff?
You know that's where it's interesting, right?
Like I'll get festive.
Like I'll buy gifts on Christmas.
I'm not running around saying I don't celebrate Christmas,
but I'm not into the other Christmas tree and all of the bells and whistles of
it. I'm gonna have to clean it up. Like I said, I know people still with their
fucking Christmas tree up right now. Yeah, I just, my understanding of holidays and
where they come from and why they're there was just, I'm off that. Not to say
the name of the church, but your mom still go to the same church. No, my mom goes to a different church. No, okay
When our pastor died, we stopped going to that church along with a lot of other people rest in peace to our reverend. Okay
I wouldn't mind being a part of a church like that. You came to church with us, right?
I did I did and came to couple of the you know how much Jesus I had to feel I felt like you needed
Yo, my G.
What you doing Sunday?
I don't ask niggas to come to church with me.
You know how much saving I felt like
needed to be thrown your way, man?
And you left the church and just
behaved the same.
Nah, I needed that.
That was around the time my dad passed.
You held me down.
I'm talking shit.
You held me down. I ain't go back after that.
Rev Ron was dope though.
He was dope.
No, he was, no, amazing.
He was amazing.
Rev Ron was him.
So like if I had a church like that,
when Rev Ron was around,
I would definitely go there for,
there was some that was still tradition
and it felt like family.
So if I had something like that.
I could see you in there.
No, it was amazing.
Was that a mega church?
Nah. It wasn't a mega church. Rev Ron, it was amazing. Was that a mega church? Nah.
It wasn't a mega church.
Rev Ron, this was in Irvington.
It was a church that the niggas went to.
Oh, it was in Irvington.
He was one of us.
Got you.
Like, I remember I went to,
he on a pool pit, and somebody had walked behind him.
He like, yo, dog, I don't really like niggas
walking behind me.
So, everybody laughed it off.
He kept on, and dude walked behind, he like,
yo fam, for real, I don't like people walking behind me.
Yo, I was locked up, my state number is boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
and I had some stuff happen to me
when people walked behind me.
Could you stop walking behind me?
Oh, shit.
Yeah, Ron's story was locked up. Like, yo, he set a state number on the pulpit bro. Damn. Nah, he was amazing. He was
he was amazing. And just welcoming to to all pimps, hustlers, scammers, murderers, anybody could come
here. No telling who you was gonna see in that church along with all the seniors. That's what I
love and respect man. You get religious leaders like, oh I already know
Fify, yeah I already know, it's crazy, it's probably like a let out. But that's what we need more of.
Unfortunately we're moving toward the megachurch model where everybody has 25,000 members and
everybody's giving. Not in the black community. There's a lot of black megachurch. There's a lot of black.
From the south. No, there's a few out here. No that's not true, up north too. It's a lot of south. No
New York Brooklyn has a couple of men and a lot of smaller ones are trying to be bigger They are the production value of a mega exactly and they're hoping to grow to 25,000 because that's how you get that's how you get the bread
Yeah, that's how you get the bread and it's not just that they have a lot of people is that their actual message is different
They do word faith, prosperity gospels.
Like, you're rich, I'm rich because God made me rich,
and if you wanna get rich, the pastor gotta get rich.
And that becomes the model, like Creflo Dollar
and all them talking about, you know,
the Lord wants me to have a jet.
People buy into that shit.
People buy into it, so that's what they get.
You disagree?
Yes!
Oh, but you said nobody should be a billionaire.
Which he stated here.
Yeah.
You said what?
But you don't feel nobody should be a billionaire.
Yeah, but I also don't think you should go to poor people
and tell them to give you your money.
Even if I believed in billionaires,
I wouldn't want to back support people.
All right, so let's just say he considers
what he's doing the Lord's work.
I don't think he does.
And let's just say,
because he's a global bastard. I don't believe that. I think he's a hustler.'t think he does. And let's just say, cause he's a global, he's a global bastard.
I don't believe that, I think he's a hustler.
I think he's full of shit.
I'm allowed to say that.
I'm not saying every P.J.,
I'm talking about that one in particular.
Creflo.
Yes.
I mean he got dollars in his name.
Yeah, and he was trained by Fred Price,
who also, again, interesting name,
also, prosperity gospel, right?
Anybody tells people that the only way
to show that you have faith is to get rich,
and being rich is to show it's a tested sign of your faith,
to me is bullshit, and it's dangerous.
I'm not wrong being rich, but if you're telling
a bunch of poor people who are giving you their last dollars,
and you're going, he doesn't say this,
but you're going to hell if you don't tithe,
or you know what I mean, the only way,
all that shit, man, you're exploiting the people,
you know what I mean?
And everybody.
The less black people you see.
Damian Wayans.
Money brings you into a new category.
You move to a different house in a different neighborhood
and you get different friends, your money,
people that come around you to help you make the money
and maintain your money and make more money.
The complexion changes, you know what I mean?
I like that.
That's what I love about LeBron.
He got Mav and he got Randy and he got Rich.
Yeah, yeah.
So he kept that group.
Yes.
For sure.
And that's not the money clip I'm looking for.
There's a football player that was talking about,
I saved it, I don't know where it is.
Just talking about how he don't care about money
and don't need all of the extra money.
Like to Mark's point about it should be no billionaires.
He was just like, the amount of money I have
is enough for anything I wanna do and need to do
and I don't have a desire because the more money
that you make, the more you're asked to do things
and the more you're tasked with
and it can make life unmanageable, unhappy.
It just comes with some other things.
I saved it because it was real interesting for Patreon.
I can't find it now, but whatever.
Like how much money do each of y'all need
to make in your life?
I'm going to ask Mark because he doesn't believe
in any of that billionaire shit.
I need a number though.
All right, so I'll ask him.
I'd be good with 50.
50 million. 50 million?
That's all I need.
If I, liquid I'm talking about.
Lifetime.
Like if you made 50 million in your lifetime.
No, he's saying if he 50 million. If I could put my hands on 50 million at any given time I be oh you need a bulk
Liquid liquid. Yeah, these are my investments and houses values, you know, I'm talking about like that would be enough money
I would need but if you see if I said net worth of 50 million, I'd be fine
I'd be fine
Actually, that's an average 25 million. I think I'm on it. Uh
mine's really Really really, maybe 10.
Like 10k?
10 mil, 10 m?
He said I'm paying cash for this ultimate.
Yo, in all honesty, I would want to at least make enough to where I can pass down to my
kids.
At this point, I'm not really concerned with the aspect of how much money I personally
have for myself.
Ish? Ashley, I'm not really concerned with the aspect of how much money I personally have for myself. Ish?
Ashley, that would save you for last part.
10 million would be more than enough than I would ever need, honestly.
I'd probably be cool with having 5 million.
Ish?
I don't have a number.
I think that as your experiences grow and as your money grows,
then your spending grows. I think that when you get 10, 10 is not going to be enough for
you no more.
That's true.
Because right now, Parks got an E-Class. If Parks had $10 million, Parks don't have
an E-Class no more. Parks might go get something bigger that costs more. Parks' house that
he wants right now, he might want a bigger house. That's true. Parks, what he does for his family,
his mother, his father, his sisters, might change with all of that money. Like if you
get money, you'll buy your sister a crib, you buy your mother a crib, your nieces get
college funds put away and all of that shit. It just depletes what you already have because
those things are now options for you. So I think the more money you get, you find ways to spend it.
Now the obscene amount of money is like the money we talking about with Elon and them,
them niggas don't have that amount of money liquid to Mark's point.
Like Mark's saying 50 million liquid.
If you got 50 million liquid, your net worth might be 200, $300 million.
Yeah.
Antoine, can you just participate?
I don't have enough. I like you write about what you're saying. $300 million. Yeah Antoine Can you just participate?
Like you write about what you're saying But can you just if you had to say a number and it came and that was the only number you had to liquid
We number a liquid
Thirty forty million
Like 40 million liquid. Yeah, I feel like if I made any more than ten million dollars, I would be doing a lot of charity
I don't know what I would need that much money for
Personally it's probably not good to say cuz they do say you manifest I don't think I'm supposed to have that much liquid
I agree. I don't me personally. I definitely don't think you should have
No, I don't think so I don't think so. I don't think so. I think nice, safe, comfortable, space, living, happy,
cool. Anything more I might bug out.
I think when you get to 10 million, to Isha's point, I don't think you'd be doing charity
shit because things do, like if you have 10 and then you buy a house that costs say three.
Right.
You're right. Just take care of that house is going, you know what I mean? Now if you if you have ten then you buy a house that costs say three right you right just sir
Just take care that house is long
You know I mean now if you're very conservative you save your money you can you can live off the interest things like that
but ten million is not enough money to
Be done start giving stuff away
50 I think you can start giving some some stuff away. You can start being real generous
See and even answer your question, I can see how there's people out there
that hear these talks and be like, I'm going to find a way to insert myself in some shit
and lie or foul.
And two part question.
And has your number changed?
Since when?
Since five years ago.
Seven years ago.
I never ever changed this.
I never asked myself this question
because I was never, I'm not the money guy.
I know, just can't say that here,
but I'm not, I don't care about the money.
It's changed.
Because at one point,
I remember having a conversation with you, right?
At one point you're like, yo, if I get 50, I'm good.
51,000 50,000 a month.
You like, if I could get to 50 K a month.
Oh, I've said that before. I said that.
That's all I need is 50 K a month on air.
Boy, was I wrong.
It turns out, hey, listen, I couldn't have been anymore wrong about that.
But that's how I felt.
To the average person, yo, there's nothing in the world
that I can't accomplish that I would quote unquote need
with 50K a month.
A lot of people feel like that.
Most people feel like that.
Yeah, and so now when you get 50K a month,
you can see how that shit go.
Yeah, but if your goals change,
you start to partake in more things
Yeah, that number's gonna have to change like if you want to just work for your 50k and that's cool
But if you want to own some shit build up your own network, then yeah, I can see how that number would have to increase
True, but you gotta have an enough. No, I'm talking about you making 50k like net you net and 50k
You got I'm saying outside of your expenses whatever your expenses are just go home with 50k
I just think that that's enough money
Until they get 50k because it is I mean I'm gonna hold you nigga when my driver went to Africa for two weeks
Section 8 right it's fucked up. I had to drive a
The front I don't even know no A couple hundred thousand dollar cost. And got a ticket. In the Ferrari?
I don't even know, no.
Nigga, just a normal car, the Rolls.
Normal car.
It's normal.
No, no, no, Rolls.
No, that's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is the ticket world has changed
since my last time driving.
They needed to pull you over to give you a ticket before.
Oh yeah. They just built.
They mailed me some shit. You're doing 35 in a 25.
They sent me the video. You can't even lie. It's you. I was cruel.
They talk about at a school district nigga is Sunday. Yeah.
My girl got one of them this weekend. Actually they sent the video. It was Queens Boulevard so I was like what school is right there ain't no school it's a highway yeah I never
want to drive again school anyway I never want to drive again but if I made
whatever y'all talking about a few things have to go like Martha has to go
the driver has to go I could do it it would just be miserable
miserable it wouldn't what's the number What's the number where you could be like? I'm good
Basically play our game participate
If I'm just freestyling and this number is gonna hold me over till death
Yeah, I could see is gonna hold me over till death?
Yeah, I could see 500 million.
I think it could make do. Yeah, I think you can make that happen.
Tighten your belt a little bit.
It's not for me, it's for my kids.
It's for the estate at this point.
Nothing I do is for me.
It's all for the estate.
So you wouldn't need 500 million to hold you down until you pass?
I mean the word estate to me says it should be more than $3,500 in there.
I know when I was estate planning and I was before I knew what he was doing and I still
don't all the way know I need to call him again because it's a long process but when I was telling him what I would like to leave everybody I
Had more than that and didn't know
Does everybody get the same amount all kids get some know
How about for y'all we saying kids my kids? Yes, okay, but I got brothers. I got sisters. I got fucking
Cousins I got other people that I'm.
And that's the part that I'm talking about.
Right now, where we are in, well not us,
where we are in life, that's not an option for you.
Because you don't got 20 million, you don't got 30 million.
Your nieces and taking care of your nieces
and your nephews is not an option for you.
That's what I'm saying.
When you get 10 mil, that 10 mil will run away like that
because other things open up.
Well, the more money you make,
the more people you feel obligated to take care of.
You have the option to do it.
For most people.
You have the option to do it.
I can imagine it being like that.
Know what I'm saying?
And I feel differently about the legacy piece of it
and the estate part of it. I mean, I want to leave my kids stuff, but I don differently about the legacy piece of it in the estate part of it
I mean, I want to leave my kids stuff. Yeah, but I don't feel the need to leave them
I'm more like the way Warren Buffett is like, you know, he had a good Julian dollars
He left him a very conservative amount relative to what he had and the rest of it he gave away to the world
And the world he did I know he wanted to do it while he was alive
He's saying and I believe them niggas be talking. Sometimes I check up on, well actually recently
I asked my dad where Bailey's money went.
Bailey is my dad's friend who hit the lotto
for like 300 million or something like that.
And he passed.
I didn't like the answer.
Like he wasn't all the way together,
so it's probably with attorneys.
The state of New York and shit like that.
And that's a sad, that's just a sad thought.
It's different.
And for us, especially being black.
And rest in peace Bailey.
Black people will be,
yo when you start sitting down with them lawyers,
your mortality starts to be a certainty
that a lot of people don't want to think about.
That's for sure.
Especially for blacks, you know what I'm saying?
I hate it.
My aunt just passed away, rest in peace.
Oh, I'm sorry.
So now you know my mother and my aunt,
they was like sisters.
That's a conversation I have with your mom.
They were sisters.
No, it was my great aunt.
Oh, okay great.
But they was like close in age.
So they was like.
No, no, no.
I was confused.
My mom and my aunt was like sisters. No, no, no. It was my great aunt, but they was close in age. So they was like, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
It's my great aunt, but they was close in age.
And so those are conversations
that you gotta start having with moms.
Like, yo, where do you want to be buried?
Yeah.
That's some bullshit.
Like that is a conversation you don't want to have.
That's what I did with my sisters.
Just everything is on them.
If I pass before them, they administer everything, pass
you control what gets to my kids, because I just trust that they're going to do the
right thing.
And they'll defy your state up.
And I don't care. Y'all go handle with that. And then if my, you know, my oldest son gets
to a certain age where he can show that he can go ahead and do, then I would change things
at that point. But moving forward, my sisters, hold everything there.
I was thinking about, Roddy Ricch.
The reason that's about the kids
and how you treat different kids
is because of this Roddy Ricch Easter controversy.
Did y'all see this thing?
No.
Where he, Roddy Ricch got in trouble for posting,
he took a Easter pic with one of his children.
Sure.
But he didn't take a picture with his other child
who apparently is autistic.
Ooh, that's gonna hit home for him, Frish.
Was he there?
And that's what I wanted to ask Joe,
because Joe was the one who first hit me to this.
See, this is the picture that went out
of Roddy Ricch and his daughter.
Uh-huh, okay.
Beautiful picture.
Yeah, it's a great picture.
Amazing picture.
But apparently, let me see here.
All right, I'm gonna read Roddy Richards'
response to this first.
He says, this will be my first and last
and only time discussing this matter.
Yes, I included my son in the photo shoot
of my daughter's first Easter and first time in LA.
No, my son did not want to take pictures
due to overstimulation. Yes, my son did not want to take pictures due to overstimulation.
Yes, my son is autistic.
No, I do not love my son any less.
Yes, I've been ridiculed and slandered through social media.
No, I do not feel I am obligated to explain myself
to complete strangers.
Yes, I threw my son a birthday party yesterday
with my entire family present. No, I did my son a birthday party yesterday with my entire family present
No, I did not share the moment online because it was also the second time my kids were in the same setting
Yes, I provide for both of my kids. No, I do not give a fuck if you believe it
I do not complain about my responsibilities
Yes, I am tired of this situation.
Happy Easter.
And this came because his son's mother saw that picture
and was like, yo, you didn't post a picture of our son.
Are you ashamed?
What's going on?
So she said, and I quote, yes, your son was a part
of a shoot that was never announced as Navy's first Easter.
You said it was because
you wanted to take pictures with both of your kids for Easter. Yes, my son was overstimulated
because you took two hours to get a haircut and your makeup done. Yes, there were pictures
taken with my son, but because he wasn't standing there posing like a robot and instead being
himself, he wasn't included. Regardless your son
celebrated his fifth birthday and just got a text that said happy birthday son.
Yes he had a joint b-day party yesterday with his cousin. Yes you showed up four
hours late and stayed for an hour and didn't come by your son till it was time
to leave and you wanted a picture. Yes I've had my son every single day since
last year regardless of a court order.
If you're going to tell the story, tell the whole thing.
That got me.
It's intense.
Yeah, that's a lot.
That's a lot of, I don't think the whole world
should know it, information.
I hate this.
You know what though, what I find in recent years
is that the kid's birthday is when some shit could pop up,
if there's shit to pop up.
I agree with you, I don't think it should.
But like we saw with Kanye and Kim,
not that he's the greatest example,
but there are examples where on the kid birthday,
if all is not right, it could go away.
True.
Yeah.
Yo, thank you to the parents who are able to go ahead
and just keep some of this shit off the fucking internet.
Like as much as I sit back and I complained about a lot of the stuff that I went through with my sons moms,
I'm so happy that today we can just get on the phone
and if we have a problem just talk some shit out and never feel like we got a tweet or
Instagram some stupid shit just out of nothing. Like you both love your kids.
Why the fuck you taking this shit to the internet?
Like he has every right to do what he wanted to do. Just out of nothing. You both love your kids. Why the fuck you taking this shit to the Internet?
He has every right to do what he wanted to do. He shouldn't have to
go explain this now to the rest of
the world because you felt the way
about something that could have been
a phone call.
Right.
We don't need to always be a part of
your group chat shit.
Ever.
Leave us out of this shit.
I shouldn't even have to have a
judgment based upon why he didn't
want to put his son in a picture.
That's his business.
Imani is absolutely right. but I love reading your business.
When it's funny.
That's the problem is this one is not funny business.
Right. So then you get all you watch it.
I read this stuff and I just get anxious because it just takes you
to all these different places.
And it frustrates me because first of all, I understand why people
don't post their children on social media.
Word. Yes.
I completely get why. And for a long time, I didn't
because of these types of conversations and
Audiences fans the public whatever make a lot of assumptions about your life based on what they see in that picture and they get not
Just judgmental but they get invested. Uh-huh. And I remember
This may be like six months ago when I had posted a picture of my daughter
I think she I don't know what it was, she did something, right?
Maybe she, I don't know, turned 21, whatever, maybe it was more recent than that.
One of those weirdo fake accounts started hacking me.
Mark has another daughter that he's ashamed of that he never takes care of, never mentions,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, because I guess they had, they
do internet weirdo stalker shit and realize that I had another child and a grandchild,
you know, and these two grandchildren. Right. And so, because I had never told that story
about me just meeting her until I was here
a couple weeks ago, they made all kinds of assumptions
that I was being a shitty dad
and that I was somehow ashamed of this other girl
and that I was a deadbeat,
as opposed to the exact opposite being the case, right?
But they were trying to start a kind of campaign,
you know what I mean?
They were almost trying to, not blackmail me,
I wasn't that strong,
but they were definitely trying to
kind of apply pressure on me,
because they don't fucking know.
And so when I see that thing with Roddy Ricch,
I'm like, I don't know if his child's mom could be right,
he could be, I don't know.
But I know enough to know that I don't know.
So I'm not going to go on the internet and slander him,
attack him, say he's a,
I mean, and I saw the attacks that he got.
I didn't know that the mother responded,
but I saw the attacks he got, and I'm like,
we don't know enough to have an opinion on his life.
At all.
And this is why people should just,
I get why people don't put their kids up.
I get it 100%.
Well,
the internet can be very mean to children.
Yeah, and dangerous to children.
Shit, I'll use Summer Walker as an example.
She's somebody, there's plenty of people I know that,
if they could take back ever putting their kid
on the internet, because y'all are mean-spirited fucks,
especially if I have an autistic kid.
Yeah.
We just saw this.
Because then the audience.
I hate to bring it up, but back to,
yeah, he's friends with this family and was mean to kids on the internet. Yeah. We just saw this. Because then the audience. I hate to bring it up, but back to, yeah, he's friends with this family and was mean
to kids on the internet.
Yeah.
They don't even always be the fucking-
Strangers.
Dog avatar stranger.
Yeah, be people you know.
Nah, that shit different.
And depending on what level of autism, them niggas don't be beat.
I ain't gonna hold you.
Nah, they don't.
The kids with autism, yeah.
Get the fuck out of here.
The lights, the cameras, the noise. All of that. Yes, yes. Of ain't gonna hold you. No, they don't. The kids is autistic. Get the fuck out of here. Fuck it up, man.
The lights, the cameras, the noise.
Yes, yes.
Of the kids, it's too much.
Leave me alone.
And you leave alone.
So again, I'm with E, it's not our business,
but once I saw him say that his son was autistic,
I had a new level of understanding
for what was going on.
Let's say this.
To me, it's audacious for some strangers to even attempt to hold you accountable for why you did or didn't do a certain thing.
Yeah, but this wasn't a stranger that was attempting to hold him accountable.
Now the strangers came later.
Came after you.
You get what I'm saying?
Like the comments and all of that shit, it's like a level of entitlement that they are
not supposed to have. It's crazy. I didn't, again, I didn't realize that till I came here. Cause all that
shit was not a part of my world. You know what I'm saying? I didn't know these things
even existed until I got here.
You know what's crazy is I had a situation with my oldest son and his mom was very adamant
in the very beginning. Please do me a favor, do not post our son on Instagram anywhere. I don't post them. I have people that typically
attack me online. I really don't want the troubles. And for me, I was like, that ain't
got nothing to do with me. But at a certain point I sat back and I was like, you know
what, maybe this is best not just for her, but also for my son. And on the top of the
fact that I'm in a space where people
Like to just dig into my own shit as well
So maybe that would be the best thing to do for him like so sometimes just those little
Conversations even if it might not be where you mark talking about the investment like these niggas will go digging
Yeah, I've seen people go digging for years
Niggas have asked me yo dog. I fuck with you on the pot. Can I just see a picture of your daughter?
You just had a new daughter, right?
That's crazy to me.
What are we talking about?
It's crazy, it's sick.
Like what are we talking about?
Yeah, y'all can't see no fucking picture of his daughter.
I ain't seen a picture of that.
Bro.
That shit, that shit goes from, that's not fandom to me.
That's, it's not fandom.
Like it's not cool, it's wack to me.
Fandom in the age of social media has gone up another notch.
People feel like they deserve to be inside your house.
Yes.
Yeah.
In a way that they didn't before.
Because so many people do that.
They're inside of people's house right now.
Yeah, the Truman Show.
Everyone took Truman Show to be truth and reality
in the past 15 years.
For me, it's less to do with the actual person.
It's just them wanting to be a part of something,
no matter who it is. If they can just find it through you, then cool.
But they just want to feel a part of something that's bigger than them.
This is one of my biggest regrets on shit I brought to the game.
And you did. You did though. You did.
Sometimes I lose sleep over it. This wasn't my intention when I created this.
They use it for evil.
Yes, that's the problem. That is the problem.
So stupid.
What you created?
What you created?
The Truman Show in hip hop.
Yeah, that's true.
No, yeah, no, no, I give you that.
I agree with that.
I give you that.
You was very stupid away from that.
No, no, no, no, no.
I just had to do it.
No, I didn't like the snarl in your ear.
What you created?
What you created, you bitch ass underage?
Yeah, I didn't like that.
Yeah, that was, all right.
No, I was just trying to understand what you were saying, but no, you were big on Yeah, I ain't like that. Yeah, that was, alright.
Nah, I was just trying to understand what you were saying, but nah, you were big on
that.
I agree with that.
Stupid ass Joe Button community went out there and found the porn stars that look like Ronnie
Cyclee, huh?
Oh shit.
That was a little fun.
That was fun.
What else happened?
Y'all tore me up for the female silver surfer shit.
Fuck y'all, I'm old, I forgot.
I ain't like that. I don't like that. That little female silver surfer lady was
important for two months in the comic book. So
these niggas are not good to fuck. I remember shorting out of just that
anyway.
What else? What else? What is anything in music that needs our attention? No
right, not really other than the non music shit that we just talked about.
Right.
right now really other than the non music shit that we just talked about
right.
Let me see, let me see what's on my list because I know I got some bullshit
here. Let's see
all right. I have Tyler being Tyler
and a story that no one cares about, but I wrote it down anyway. Tyler or
Tyler Tyler. Oh, so what the Brie Tyler with the Britney Spears inspo outfit where Tyler came out and was like,
I didn't get this from her, no inspo there for certain.
I just thought the outfit was cute.
And then somebody said something to her
and she was like, why don't you shut the fuck up?
So, wait, let me find that.
So, but they was on Tyler's ass. I can't say nothing about it
though, because I already said enough.
She maybe was, she probably wasn't, but your style is.
Yeah, I was just about to say her style.
She might have said put this on her, she don't even know.
No, it's like a green top with denim shorts.
It was like iconic Britney Spears outfit when she did MTV awards.
Oh, MTV awards.
When she had a snake on her and all that.
Gotcha.
I mean, it's very similar.
And at the end of the day, someone got some info.
Right, your stylist knew if you were.
Tyler is how old?
20?
Two?
I don't know.
She wasn't born when she was 20.
She might not know what the fuck.
You get what I'm saying?
That's what I'm saying.
She might have not been inspired by it, but.
Yeah, she might have not been born.
Don't get me wrong though.
If you're a study and a real artist and you've known you know the legends you know those
certain looks that came across like the JLo look is just a legendary look that
she did at the MTV Awards. Yes sir. Little Kim shit with the one boob out is a
legendary look whether you are a kid at that time or older you remember those
looks so you know what the inspiration is coming from. Shit, you bugger.
Anyway, that's not the point. The point is whether you got inspiration
for Britney Spears or not, why'd you say that?
Yeah.
You couldn't be more.
Shut the fuck up.
Just don't say shit.
Because they come from a mean, yo dog,
they come from a mean ass place.
My nigga, we just talking about this.
These niggas come from meanness.
These niggas on the internet,
they growing up in the internet.
If you disagree with a nigga on the internet,
they like, suck dick you bitch ass nigga.
That's what they come from.
Any remote slight disagreement is,
oh yo, you sucking dick.
You so get your fuck, get the dick out your mouth.
You like, yo bro, what are you talking about?
I just said, no, I disagree.
That's what they come from.
I expect almost any celebrity to crack at some point
when you getting nothing but bullshit
thrown your way all day.
Unless you are older veterans.
You know what I mean?
The new gods, you're gonna crack.
Shit, the veterans is cracking.
So you're gonna at some point be frustrated
and wanna respond back to somebody.
Everybody has those moments.
I'm on the total opposite side of this.
Yeah, I believe you.
I believe you. How you see it? Again, like we started earlier, like when you was talking about being calm and
what being calm means. I come from the old school meaning of celebrity, which was limited access.
Which was limited access?
That's real. So today
Fans should be able to say
Anything that they want and most of it probably will be mean without really knowing how you feel in response to it. I
Don't agree with that. Mm-hmm You don't agree what she could have been in her house or just any celebrity
They don't people don't have to know how you feel regarding all of these matters
There's nothing wrong with shutting the fuck up especially when
it's this inconsequential who cares if you got inspo from Brittany or not a
missed rumors already that you kind of a dick I'm not gonna say that cuz I'm 44
and I've said it already about her but yeah all the comments are just like all
right we can understand why some people think
that this girl is a dick.
And that's cool when water's out.
I think that's unfair.
I think that's unfair.
I think that this is a human being.
And yo, just because you're a celebrity
and you wear a certain, or you have a certain job,
that don't entitle people to say whatever the fuck
they wanna say to you.
And if you feel like it's a day
where you tell them suck my dick and shut the fuck up,
you are entitled to do that.
If they're entitled to be disrespectful,
you're entitled to tell them suck your dick.
You come in here and daze and tell them people suck your dick.
I think you're 45 years old.
I think you're entitled to, but you shouldn't.
Yeah. Yeah, I think you're entitled.
I agree, I empathize with everybody who does that.
I've had those moments, you've had those moments.
You're picking and choosing, bro.
No, no, I'm saying, I think we have to pick and choose at that level.
Just, I don't think we should, because I
think it's bad for business.
I think it's bad for how we.
You know why I don't like that?
Because once again, it gets back to picking and choosing
who we like it to come from.
There was a lot of times where Rihanna was clapping back
at everybody.
Everybody.
And we was cheering it on, laughing.
On Twitter, she was going on.
She went back at celebrities.
She went at other artists.
And we were like, yo, that's some real shit
because she's speaking straight from the heart.
She a human.
But it's a little different, Rihanna, too, because-
Yeah, that's a crock of shit.
Part of me, for me, Rihanna is having fun with it.
It's different when you look like you clowning people and playing people versus you actually
look angry, like you wouldn't actually go out and fight somebody.
And again, I'm not saying I'm above it.
I'm just saying, I think we end up looking bad if we show that they're getting to us.
You know what I'm saying?
That's all I'm saying.
I didn't feel like they were getting to Rihanna.
I feel like Rihanna was just clowning people.
Celebrity, regular, whatever.
That's cool, I mean we don't gotta keep talking about it.
Rihanna, Cardi, has had interactions with fans.
Like get the fuck out my face, suck my dick.
She said talk to dog walking before me.
You get what I'm saying?
Yo dog, humans are humans.
Y'all are naming people, one, that are outliers,
two, that have partially built their brands
on this behavior that you talking about.
So Cardi can come out and do that.
Rihanna didn't build her brand on that.
That was part of it?
No, it wasn't.
It 100% was a part of building her brand brand on that. That was part of it? No it wasn't. No it wasn't.
It 100% was a part of building her brand.
It was 100% a part of it.
Her being able to say certain things
that other artists were unable to say
and it be received a certain way,
that was a part of it.
She started building a part of that brand.
On risque.
Off of, she was already successful at that point
when she started to build that brand.
This young lady is in no way near the type of success Rihanna was at that point.
This can still be a part of her building her brand.
Yo, I'm very blunt.
I'm not going to sit back and just let y'all say whatever.
So school me on this, I don't know her well enough to know.
Why are people reading her as a, literally as like maybe a dick as opposed to the Rihanna.
It was good. It was good. It was the, uh, it was the, uh, uh,
your hold my award. Could you hold my award please? That played a big part in it.
Okay. Oh yeah.
And the manner in which she did that.
A lot of people turned their nose at the Usher, the Usher dancing dancing, dub. I remember that one, yes.
There was a colorism conversation.
There was a conversation about ethnicity.
Oh, she was the one with the black colored thing.
She's from South Africa.
It's been a few.
It's been a few.
Some don't seem fair to her, but I get it.
I see what you're saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yo, I'm not with celebrities wanting everything to be fair.
I just don't understand this.
I don't understand that.
Nothing about your celebrity life is fair.
I'm confused by this.
What is she saying that she wants to be fair?
No, I'm not talking about her.
Oh, you're just saying her.
I'm just saying what Mark says.
Damn, some of that's not fair to her.
He's right.
Okay.
Where, I don't know when we got to this time
where fairness should be allotted to celebrities.
But it's not even a celebrity thing.
The world ain't fair to nobody, right?
Cool, but if the world's not fair to nobody,
then we gonna hold everybody to the same standard.
And if Joe Button wasn't a rapper
and Joe Button was a mechanic or engineer or an accountant
and somebody says something rude to you,
you're entitled to tell them, suck my dick.
Not, okay, yeah, I don't like
the word entitled right there and I don't want to be circular in this conversation. You can say
anything you want. How much money do you make while you say it? I think the money piece is irrelevant.
Oh, see I don't. Yeah, I think that it. See, I don't. I think that you stand in what you stand in,
and I think you welcome.
I think that's foolish to even think
that the money portion of that is irrelevant.
I disagree.
I think that some people make choices and decisions,
and they live with the recourse or the circumstance,
I mean, or the consequence of what they say.
If you made a choice to go into a career
where you're going to be put in front of a bunch of people,
people are going to have criticism.
You should know that. And not everyone is
gonna be nice and positive. And for me this is a classic Franklin from Snowfall,
y'all want me to be mad at the way a nigga talk. I disagree. This nigga's
getting too much money. And I don't want to make this about me. When I came
inside on this couch, I don't think I came inside on this couch and said, yo,
I'm gonna come now speak in front of the public and so now I take whatever comes along with that.
Did you have any expectations that would happen?
No, I knew nothing about that.
That's a little bit...
You should have.
No, I shouldn't have.
No, I shouldn't have.
No, that's not, that's not, not for him.
That's not, I shouldn't have.
Why?
Well, this was never part of his background, he didn't really have before understanding
of what this would look like after that.
But true, but when you come and decide to be a public figure, no one really told him
what to expect.
How do you know what to expect?
You don't know that.
If you're a,
if you hit the lotto, right,
if you hit the lotto for $100 million,
how the fuck do you know what to expect
that comes along with having $100 million?
Well, some things you don't expect.
You don't know that.
No, some things.
Until you experience it, you have no idea.
For sure, but if a bunch of people started asking for money
and pretending they were your cousin,
you wouldn't be surprised by that.
I would say that's something you should have expected.
Or, but the people that might be close to you
that you looked at and you loved,
and they start treating you funny or they act funny.
That's surprising. That would be surprising to you.
For sure, but what I'm saying is,
the example of the person who has an extra,
who gets extra criticized now that they're on TV
or in front of a camera,
I'm saying that to me is more akin to
a bunch of people asking you for money.
In other words, like, we've been on the other side of it.
You and your homie sit in the barbershop,
we sit in the barbershop and talk shit about people,
famous people, right?
So I would assume that you would have expected that.
I'm not saying you're right or wrong,
I'm just saying like, I'm surprised that you-
It's fucked up that y'all just expect people
to turn off their human instinct
of just wanting to go ahead and respond.
Like, I get it, yes, there are certain things,
there's a gift and a curse that comes with entertainment.
Yes, you 100% should be able to understand that people are going to critique.
But it's a human thing to want to respond and even sometimes respond.
Of course it is.
I don't think you're wrong for feeling that way.
I'm just saying, the one thing I'll say is a lot of times we normalize and naturalize
like the benefits of this position.
And this is the part that I think Joe was right about.
Like, it's not going to be fair, but it's also not fair when we get kicked
to the front of the line at the restaurant.
It's not fair.
I said the world ain't, listen, I'm not saying,
but both can be true.
The world ain't fair.
The world ain't fair if you're a mechanic.
But you can respond how you respond.
You just got to live with, no doubt.
Okay.
We're on the same page.
Okay, respond how you want to respond.
Yeah. Let me let y'all know out there We're on the same page. Okay, respond how you want to respond.
Yeah, let me let y'all know out there that people are talking bad about you right now.
Famous or not famous?
More people are talking about you guys.
No matter what you're doing, you can be the accountant, the mechanic, all these fucking occupations,
somebody is talking bad about you.
I can't think of the amount of times I've walked out of a mechanic shop or stopped and
talked bad about the person I dealt with because they were whatever rubbed me the wrong way.
You go to a restaurant and they get bad service.
You're going to be talking bad about that waiter or server.
The gig is the gig.
This is just cool.
He reserves the right to tell all of these people. Fuck my kid.
Diddity diddity did. And he choking people too.
He just got locked up.
Who did?
Mark.
For real?
Yeah, like a month or so ago.
Got into an incident with a dude in a restaurant.
Say you like his song?
Nah, he was doing some racial slurism.
He didn't like it.
Yolked him up.
Mary Fitzman.
I didn't think it was possible
But they're turning me off this song now. It's fucking terrible
Turning me away from this song. I don't know if you guys heard this clip, but I'll play it for you being influence yo
Tesla Cybertron make me more, make me like it more now. You know what I mean?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I tell you, I tell you, I'm sure about this song.
Mark Morris, they were like.
This audio is bad, so I'll just tell you.
This is actor Miguel Nunes.
I know I'm not familiar with him.
But he claims that Simon Cowell,
creator of X Factor and former A&R executive,
offered the hit song Return of the Mac to Eddie Murphy,
but Eddie Murphy turned it down.
And now not only can I not un-hear it,
this is an Eddie Murphy song.
It should have been an Eddie Murphy song.
I can't un-hear that now, one.
For sure.
And two, now I look at it as one of those songs that were fucking...
A spoof?
Yeah, the spoofs that they pass around the industry, the creator hit.
Oh, yeah.
The manufactured science lab hit that we can give this to whoever and it's a hit.
I don't like those hits.
I don't like those hits.
Sometimes I like those hits.
Well, sometimes I do. I'm not going to hits. I don't like those sometimes I like those hits. Well, sometimes I do
Sometimes historically I like the person if issues a hit maker. I want to hear what those hits sound. Yeah for sure I don't want to hear just hits being shopped to anybody if anybody do it as a hit
boom
Bum-bum, except for what it works
Okay
and it works with Okay. And it works sometimes.
It works sometimes.
So as a...
Bomba, I hate that.
Like if you were a writer, right?
I'm a writer.
Or a producer.
And a producer.
Like I'm saying for other people primarily.
You could write a song and say,
yo, to me, I would like to give this song to X.
Or I would like to give this song to Y.
Like if you hear Kanye talk,
Kanye was like, yo, he did Heart of the City.
He said, y'all want to get that song to DMX.
Like, I envision DMX having that song.
You get what I'm saying?
So you-
I understand what you're saying.
Let me, let me-
Cause that sounds like an Eddie Murphy-esque song.
What adds to my point is that Mark Morrison
never had nothing else.
That's where it gets tricky.
There was never another song, slap, jam album.
It's just, we gave this to you.
This is forever cemented with your name, but you gone.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Just a one time quick hit.
Hell no.
I can't respect it.
You still gotta deliver the record. And he did. So
let's not strip that away. He delivered the record the way but it was tailor-made to just be more of
a fun loving thing and his tone fit that which is why when you hear Eddie Murphy could have did it
it makes all the sense. I don't want to hear that shit now. Now man. I think I think would have been
an even bigger smash. Smash if you have because it's you have an affinity for Eddie Murphy songs oh yeah that's true because you
was in the Michael Jackson was that Eddie Murphy walks in any record label
and says hey Rick James produced this for me and here's what we got.
They're putting all the money to make sure people know.
Eddie Murphy has some more slaps on that.
Huh?
He has some more slaps?
More Rick James.
I hate his music.
More Rick James.
See what I mean?
Rick James will write you a hit.
And he can really sing.
They said that that that.
Oh, you're on it.
You glazed it.
You're getting too far.
This is what the young boy is called glazing.
Eddie can hold the note. Eddie can sing for glazing. You're getting too far. This is what the young boys call glazing is.
Eddie can hold the note. Eddie can sing for an actor.
He can hold the note.
Eddie can sing. Can he sing better than Sadeq?
Come on, stop.
How many girls think Eddie Murphy can sing better than him?
I'm just checking your temperature, buddy.
Stop. Don't do that.
All right. Tell the audience how Eddie is fucking...
Luther Vandross.
Look, they're just about to drag it and put something in the universe.
I'm saying that Eddie Murphy can sing.
He ain't no bum singer.
Yes he is.
He's a mediocre singer.
There's a lot of mediocre singers.
Some of our favorite singers are mediocre singers.
And I think Eddie's right.
None of my favorite singers are mediocre singers.
That's not true.
Some of your favorite artists.
Like who?
Name somebody.
Keith Sweat.
I'm not even going to insult nobody.
I ain't going to insult nobody.
I think Keith Sweat's a better singer than Eddie Murphy.
I love Keith.
OG Keith, love him.
If y'all about to say that Eddie Murphy sings better than Keith Sweat,
Keith Sweat is the name I wanted to ask you about after I heard your shoddy take.
Oh no, so listen, I wasn't about to say that.
I was saying he said name some other mediocre singers that are great artists.
I think Keith is a great songwriter, great producer,
all that.
I don't think he's known for being a vocalist.
Right, and I'm saying Eddie's under him.
He stepped the niggas too.
I know.
That's on the line.
Right there too.
And you and Harlem.
I know, I don't want to wrong someone.
I know.
Smooth to you.
Eddie was a benefit of being famous
and having a great production and a great album.
I agree that there's a lot of mediocre singers out there.
I just think Eddie would not be somebody I would call a singer. You know what I
mean? And he's a fucking plant. We don't always want to hear a virtual so
singing. I can sing to. I don't want to try to sing along with someone that I
can't sing to. That's fair. Otherwise we listen to opera. But that's the beauty
of us. That's the beauty of somebody songs that you can sing sing to. That's fair. Otherwise, we listen to opera. But that's the beauty of some of these songs,
that you can sing along with.
Don't get me wrong.
It wasn't like Mark just didn't have any type of vocal ability,
but he did enough to where you didn't discredit him,
and he did not enough to where the next normal person walking
down the street can sing.
That's sometimes the catchiness of a great fucking hit record.
It's almost like the rappers that can rap super well don't necessarily be the most successful
because it's hard to keep up with it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The only reason I was saying anything about him being a quality singer is I'm not necessarily
convinced that if he had the song that it would have gone to the next level.
I think sometimes it's the right person at the right time that just hits that mark.
And even though Eddie was more famous, I don't know if he would have bodied the song. I think he would have...
I think the song would have been a body bag.
This would have been a body bag. If Eddie would have did that, body bag.
You like Eddie more than I do, so that's a big part of it.
I mean, that's a big OG. And you know who Miguel Nunez is?
From where?
That's Johanna Mann. Johanna Mann, he was also in Life, he played the game.
You don't think I remember.
Don't be scared.
Don't be scared.
That's this dude's name?
Yes.
Don't be scared.
He was on, he, don't be scared.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
I ain't know that.
Pretty Ricky's what you call him.
Martin.
Okay.
Come on, man.
I ain't know that was his name.
I just wanted to put some respect in his name.
I wish niggas could see my thoughts sometimes.
Okay, nah, I know who it is now.
All right.
All right.
That's not, oh yeah.
All right, what else, what else, what else, what else?
What else is there?
Let's see.
Damn, the draft is Thursday.
Yeah, it is.
The draft is Thursday. Yeah it is. The draft is Thursday.
I don't know if y'all are equipped to have an NFL draft talk.
I mean a little bit but.
I only wanted to ask you guys, I think the entire draft is decided by us, the Giants,
that pick three.
I think two actually is going to make a lot of.
I think Travis is going to make two.
Whether they pick Travis or Abdul Carter is going to make a lot of it. I think Travis is going to make a lot of it. They pick Travis or Abdul Carter is going to make a big difference.
I think the Giants are taking that running back.
Gentry?
I think they're taking them.
I think after that point, it's Weber.
OK.
You don't talk no more on this topic.
Please, if you don't mind.
OK, do me a favor.
This is like that Vatican stuff, do me a favor. This is like that Vatican stuff.
Do me a favor.
If it runs down being Kam Ward,
Travis Hunter, and then that little running back dude,
then come back and talk to me.
Ashton Gentry is very...
A lot of people consider him a top five talent.
If the Giants take Ashton Gentry in the great words of Charlamagne the God,
I...
Okay. Hey, how the God, I okay,
hey,
you should be excited.
That's how egregious I think your football take is right now, but if that
happens, I don't think that's that egregious. That's not that egregious. I don't think it's that egregious. If you all took him right there, if I were
giant spirit, I would be happy with that yeah, yeah, unless you bypass Travis. Okay, trap if Travis
Hunter is pig. What do you do right that check Joe? No, we did it. We die.
I'm out of here. I don't think they will, but I don't think it would be the
most egregious thing. There's a lot of people that have him regarded as a top
five at least overall talent in the draft. They don't typically drive
running backs. I but the guys did before we say quality. I don't think
it would be that agree and never and never grow and they fucked up keep
got it guys and that is our NFL
that is our NFL draft coverage.
Holy shit, so stupid. Are you niggas crazy? Giants, please pick this nigga.
Are you all crazy?
Please pick him.
It's almost like I'm in a room with people
that haven't watched one draft show.
I've watched a million.
And no one has him slayed there.
No one anywhere in the world has said
Gentie to the Giants at three.
I agree, I agree with you.
Nobody's saying anything.
So y'all, I just wanna know.
No one is saying anything. I did let y'all know, y'all I just want to know when I did let you know y'all are breaking that okay. That is a
hot take. I don't think that will happen, but that being said, I do think that
his tail it would yeah, I don't think makes it. I don't think they'll take him
either, but what I'm saying is if they did take him, I wouldn't be like, oh,
they the biggest floppy. I wouldn't do that.
Okay,
they just didn't pay sake. Well, so I doubt they'd take him.
Well, this is the Seqwad thing.
Our running back now is actually pretty good.
He's also young.
Like this is his second or third year coming up.
But he's more of a scatback.
Shit.
He's nice though.
Tell that to fantasy owners.
He didn't look like that to me.
That nigga was putting up buckets.
He was the only back they had for a long time actually.
He was.
So you don't got no choice but to put up buckets.
Listen, hey, I'm done with football talk.
We did it.
We did it.
Hey, the draft is Thursday.
See you guys there.
Saturday I'm sure we'll unpack it.
I feel like there's something in music that has to be there that we're just not discussing.
Is music that beat?
Yes.
Okay. Yeah, nigga. It really is. It really is. Is music that beat? Yes. Okay.
It really is.
It really is.
Bro, we almost in May.
Oh, I know.
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody's like, nah, nah,
the heavy hit is coming first quarter.
Ain't no hitting been done, my nigga.
This shit is trash.
I'm fine with that because I,
there's albums that came out that. I'm still got Bad Boney and Kendrick, I'm fine with that because I I these albums that came out that I'm good yeah
I'm still listening that bad bunny me too yeah his tiny desk was great amazing
amazing incredible yeah I'm gonna just go to the hikes
I'm gonna just go to the Heights
It's not my thing y'all doing anything this week
I'm traveling on go to Nashville
Nashville yeah, it's Rem's birthday. That's what she wanted to do all our friends. Let's go
Yeah, me my man Duff will be the only dudes there. I think
That's is he single no his girl his girl. Yeah, his fiance is coming as well. Nobody is single but you.
Oh yeah.
Like everybody in the world found their person.
He found some people.
Yeah, he found his people.
His tribe.
How about that though?
It should be fun.
I do feel like at some point we're gonna be
the only dudes there with like eight women.
When y'all leaving?
Friday, Saturday.
Yeah, pull up.
It's right there.
Got it wrecked right quick.
Look at him.
He ready already.
I love Nashville.
You said you traveling?
Yeah, I got to do a, I got to, Friday I got to,
well no, Saturday actually.. I got to do a
Speech in North Carolina. I'll be in Charlotte, North Carolina speaking to think about a thousand educators
About what's going on down in North Carolina and then I'm headed to Denver on
Sunday for a few hours to deliver an academic paper, which I'm on the wall tour
It's exhausting man, I wish I, I wish I could not do it.
How what?
The academic shit don't pay.
No, like it literally doesn't pay.
This is for the culture?
Really?
Yeah, I spent six months writing an essay,
a theoretical essay that I'm gonna deliver on Sunday morning
to the American Educational Research Association.
So, you know, I want people to hear the paper, so I'm going to do it.
But it's a drag to go all the way to Denver for that, and then I got to fly all the way
back on Monday.
What pay?
Like the drinks that Dr. Uma and them be doing?
Yeah, I mean, I get paid for speeches, but I don't get paid for papers.
You know what I'm saying?
So the speeches pay pretty well, and I give a large chunk of it to charity.
But the papers is what draws in the speech
money, right? You'd be surprised how much they don't. People don't care about the paper.
It's very inside baseball. Nobody pays attention to it. If I go on TV or I write a newspaper
article or I do a magazine thing, yes, but academic papers, 12 people read those things.
Hey, big dog, how much you say you give to charity?
A significant portion. About the same portion he gives to autism.
I don't give money to autism. I gave money to a non-profit organization. No, he's just buying prom outfits. I get the same percentage. Did y'all do that already?
When the fuck is the prom? Tomorrow, man.
May. May. Oh, that's right. I didn't know you did this. You buy prom outfits for people? I'm donating
I didn't know you did this. You buy prime outfits for people?
I'm donating
Tuxedos and outfits to a bunch of boys that
Can't really afford them But they GPAs and shit like that are high and a lot of them wasn't even gonna go to the prom because they just couldn't
Afford that's dope. Oh, how much does it cost to do that? You can get someone
I'll talk to you. Yeah, tell me I'm gonna donate that's what I'm asking. Yeah, I definitely donate to that
Yeah, I'm gonna donate, that's what I'm asking. Yeah, I'll definitely donate to that.
I just need some photos.
Just to show that they were.
That they were purchased.
That they were ready to see.
Going for off of this little pyramid scheme.
If you want more.
You gotta be careful fucking with the boy.
That nigga's so last.
Four niggas on a swing.
Exactly. Four niggas on a hoodieat. Exactly. Four niggas on a hoodie. Exactly.
Y'all can wear Ikea sweatshirts.
That's that itch on the side of the limo.
Holy shit.
I'm pointing to you nigga.
That dog, man.
You stupid little idiot, yo.
It's dope.
It's nothing?
You ain't do nothing?
Oh, nah.
I'm going down south.
I'm going to the south.
I'm going to the south.
I'm going to the south.
I'm going to the south.
I'm going to the south.
I'm going to the south.
I'm going to the south.
I'm going to the south.
I'm going to the south. I'm going to the south. I'm going to the south. I'm going to the south. I'm pointing to you, nigga. That dog, man. He's stupid. Oh shit. Idiot, yo.
It was dope.
It's nothing?
You ain't do nothing?
Oh, nah.
I'm going down south.
My eye passed away.
Oh, right.
Condolences.
Condolences, man.
Condolences.
I gotta invite y'all out next week.
You perform it?
No, no, no.
Some of the people, it's a funny invite.
But there's an establishment that wanted to honor
certain customers and stuff at the establishment.
And then one day, they-
It's yourself.
It's shady as fuck, the way you tellin' the story.
Yo, this why he don't do the main.
This right here.
This why this nigga is not allowed on the main.
But go ahead.
It sound like you spent your ass money already.
Say it, but shut it up.
I'm not saying the establishment,
because I didn't want it to seem like I was getting in trouble.
Go ahead, shout it out, man.
But this spot that I'm...
Is this a strip club?
No, no, it's not.
No, I'm not coming.
That nigga don't want to say it.
Come on.
Go ahead.
Now, you niggas, They showing love, so I.
Oh, really?
I didn't want to say it.
Free appetizers?
He said it.
I didn't want to say it.
These niggas are d***.
So you know, so.
I might want to get one drinks.
So I'm going to buy a child, you know what I mean?
Might want to get one well drinks.
Just a way to get the guys out.
Like when Mel had the Disney sky boxes, you doing that.
You doing that shit again.
Okay.
That's fine. Just want to invite everybody out.
See, I'm that paranoid.
Yeah.
When people invite me out is when my paranoia begins.
I can see it.
No, that's not from me.
Don't personalize it.
Yeah, but he should know me better enough to know that I can already determine
you not going to want to be here.
So I'm not even sending an invite.
I'm good at that.
What kind of spot is this?
I don't know.
No, it's true.
You're an idiot.
No, he in the mad times.
They get him all the time.
They get me?
No, they ain't never get me.
I ain't never get God.
That's pink.
You talking about the spot though?
Nah, I'll put you on after.
I mean, not the name of it, it's like a restaurant, it's like a lounge.
It's like a little hookah lounge.
Where did they give you the brown bag?
It's no brown bag.
Come on, it's me, my nigga. We took the brown bag.
I would tell you too. I would, it's me, my nigga. We took the brown bag. I would tell you.
I would tell you too.
I would split it with niggas too.
No, you don't split it with me.
Yeah.
With niggas.
Who you want?
Don't split it with me.
So the whole crew invited though?
I'll speak to you after.
Because you said I want all y'all.
I didn't know if you meant all of us seated here.
I figured it would be a nice time to really hang with the cast.
And I'm sure depending on who shows up, it'll be beneficial for you.
Don't get me wrong.
You're not paying for a drink and saying ever again in your life.
You niggas did not come.
Free hookah for life for a body.
Exactly.
You don't give a fuck if we come at all.
Trust me.
Niggas ain't negotiating the watermelon mint.
God damn it, man.
Love 66.
Holy shit. Let's see, let's see, let's see.
Does anybody care that Kendrick Lamar
has been announced as a brand ambassador for Chanel?
Let me hit the round of applause.
Hey.
It's him, it's fine.
That's fine.
Okay, nobody gave a fuck about that.
No, that's dope. I'm nobody gave a fuck about that.
I'm kindred out, yo.
I hate to say it, I'm kindred out. I think that's fine.
Congrats to him. I'm just talking about him.
And I think him pivoting to other worlds
and being accepted over there, I think that's fine.
I think you just build on that brand.
I don't know if I like that word.
Accepted. What's that? That's not true. I think you just build on that brand. I don't know if I like that word.
Accept it? What's that?
That's not true.
Yeah, I don't like that.
Everybody don't get accepted into high-end fashion.
That's a task.
Well, he's already been, like,
before the Chanel announcement,
he's been showing that he's into fashion
and he has some relation to it.
It's not like this is his first time
doing something in collaboration with a brand, but I just.
They made him the ambassador.
I'm not gonna lie, I'm kinda with Mark a little bit.
I just do your thing, but I've just heard so much of you.
It's past years.
I could use like six months of no Kendrick out.
How you even gonna say that in that T-shirt?
That.
Shit.
How can you say I'm Kendrick out in a t-shirt that says
the future is black and feminist?
I feel like that's his same movement.
No, no, not at all.
I mean, again, salute to him.
I want him to win.
I just, it feels like.
I don't need a new headline every.
That's what it is.
I don't need a new headline.
It's been 12 months of him having a loose stool
and we gotta talk about it.
You know what I mean?
Which is, again, nothing bad about Kendrick.
And I'm not criticizing us talking about it right now.
I'm just saying for me, I just had like overexposure.
I feel like he's almost overexposed right now for me.
So I just, even as a brand move,
it's interesting to think about.
Why? Just the timing of it.
Like, I wish this announcement would have happened
right after the Super Bowl, right before the Super Bowl.
Like he was right at that peak, for his sake.
You know what I mean?
I don't know if other,
because I feel like other people may feel like he and I feel,
which is a little Kendricked out, that's all.
I can dig it.
I mean, he's coming out,
his single is still number one
and he's going on a stadium tour.
Listen, I get it.
But with someone like him,
who's always been so, like kind of like,
recluse a little bit and not really always,
it's a little different for me.
So maybe that's just what it is too.
I think he's building his own brand now. He's not under TDE no more.
And I think him doing that, I think if they would have announced it around the Super Bowl,
it would have almost seemed gimmicky.
I think now right here it seems more authentic and it seems, you know what I mean?
Like around the Super Bowl shit seemed like y'all just dick riding.
You know what I mean?
Like now I think in May, well April, May,
they're announcing it, I think it sounds more authentic.
I appreciate the wins.
Yeah, it was.
Like I said, just every two, three weeks
we get in another, and not even by just him,
just the people, period.
Stop hating it.
Yeah.
No.
Fuckers hating on the K-Dot.
You could've waited to see someone
who was hating on Kendrick up here.
I'm still going to that show.
And I'm going to the show.
It's just all the other stuff through your time.
Yeah, it's just all the other, yeah.
I can dig it.
Because it's a slow day, I follow this page that does subway takes.
Okay.
It's a guy that gets on the subway.
Oh, with the card?
With the microphone, yeah, the card, that's the microphone.
And he asks somebody to give a take.
Yeah.
And they give one.
Which to me, now is a great show,
but it is the fucking essence of podcasting,
like give a take.
So I be really listening to these shits.
I wanted to play one and get your listening to these shits I wanted to
play one and get your thoughts or I actually wanted to play a few of these I
wanted to do this on a patreon but since we got time today I'll just do it tell
me what y'all think of this concept what's your take there is no such thing
as nothing hundred percent disagree yeah look okay all right something no I'm
saying there's no such thing as nothing. Oh, so everything
is something. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so I was, so I do 100%. I think you 100% agree. Try to
conceptualize of nothing in any manner. Try it. Try to describe it. Just black, like when
you close your eyes. Oh wow. That's a profound something. Oh my goodness. Wait, so I do 100%
agree there is no such thing as nothing. Everything is something. We use the word in a way that
I think undermines our ability to conceive of Everything is something. We use the word in a way that I think
undermines our ability to conceive of a brighter future. We use the word nothing. Yeah, we say well there's nothing there.
We learn to use the word in a way that I think dismisses the incredible existence of
everything. Maybe it is a defense mechanism. Now either this is some really high shit. No, I'm rolling. I'm rolling. I'm kind of with him. I'm 100% rolling.
Yeah I think on one hand that is what it is. Only on one hand. Yeah I mean because even the vacuum of
space you know I mean I just think like there's there must be some kind of
nothing. Yes I just think that in science the possibilities are limited. I need some clean air. I'm waiting to hear you niggas.
Well me and Parks said we agree. I agree. I agree too. I think blessed with black people have always done.
Agreed?
Yeah, I think we've always rejected the idea of nothingness
as the final word.
That's why we say we made a way out of no way.
You know what I mean?
We turn nothing into something, right?
Because we always know that there actually is something
there even when we say nothing
and that's the basis on creating new shit.
I think that's why black people so dope.
Appreciate you, my black brother.
It's laughing at me.
What's nothing?
That was hard being woke, boy.
What was hard being woke?
How do you see it?
What movie was that?
He was like, man, night school.
He was like, man, it's hard being woke.
I didn't see that.
I think it's too much thought going into that.
Like the actual word nothing, saying that nothing is something that's true, but when you start trying to delve into it, I think you're trying to.
Everything ain't that deep, yo.
Yeah, like you're trying to work.
Don't give me, I see the logic in this.
Yeah, it's no such thing as nothing, but
you don't have to define it, you don't
gotta go down this rabbit hole.
Alright, batter up.
He's good at it.
Segregation.
So what's your take? Bring back segregation.
100% disagree bring it
back I want to know where I'm not welcome okay put them signs back up
colors only whites only let's do it especially for a restaurant are you
kidding me whites only what do I want about. Mayonnaise, hot dogs. Colors only we got seasoning. Tumeric.
Not trigo.
I like this.
You were saying that the black excellence,
the segregation is to get the-
The colored excellence.
OK.
OK.
What's the playlist in the white totally spot?
They playing Carrie Underwood and Kid Rock.
We playing Babyface and Babyface and Babyface.
Ain't no overhead lighting.
What are you talking about?
Ain't no overhead lighting. Look at his hair. Talk about, where am I going? Ain't no overhead lighting. Hell yeah.
Look at his hair.
Talk about where am I going?
That's the problem with North Africans.
That's what I'm talking about.
Hell yeah.
I'm in.
Distinguished guests.
100% of the crew left.
I'm talking about where I'm going.
I support what the fuck you said.
Fuck y'all.
I'm going out on a limb.
Prior to my current involvement, I wouldn't have been opposed to what she
said. I wouldn't have been opposed to that now. You can't use your wife as an
aside. I don't want to go back to the whites guys. This is gonna be a
problem. I don't want to go.
They can make some mutual spots.
Please.
We'll all go together.
Please.
The middle zone?
Middle zone.
I'm not mad, yo listen, it sounds crazy.
Yes.
Be careful after your little Vatican talk.
Sure.
It's been posed before by a few people.
I'm not mad at the take.
Do I think it would solve anything?
No. I don't either. No, but'm not mad at the take. Do I think it would solve anything? No, do I think it would be helpful?
No, but it's not a bad take.
I do like, I like my racism in front of me.
All right, Nick, better.
Good memories overrated.
100% agree, I have an awful memory and I love it.
It's great, right?
Yeah.
Pick up a book, awesome book,
three years later, same book, fresh.
Water movie twists and turns five years later, same book, fresh. Water movie twists and turns, five years later,
shocked and all again.
What?
I'm gonna take down a good guy.
Oh, they're gonna be together.
Oh my god, they're not, he's dying.
Sorry, spoiler alert.
Honestly, the best thing is, oh, go to sleep upset,
go to sleep in an argument.
Wake up the next day, it's a new dawn.
That's a nice thing to give to the old ball and chain.
Never go to sleep upset.
Yeah, but if you have a good memory,
you might wake up still upset.
Yeah, and then you have to suppress it.
I agree, I agree with a lot of y'all.
That was for you.
I'm not gonna beat y'all down with all of this shit.
That was for you.
But it's nuts, bro.
What's the name of that pic?
Cool.
Subway takes.
I definitely gotta go look at that.
Cuckoo's Anonymous.
Look at this shit, hold up.
What's your take?
Anything is a dating app.
100% agree.
Spotify, Venmo. Spotify. Cuckoo's anonymous Wait you met your wife on trivia. That's right, tribute
correct.
What's that? It was like trivial pursuit, but like an app game and had a little
DM. That's where I got my flow. It was horny horny.
You saw the twelve letter joint
baby gravy.
What? What did you write?
Baby gravy.
What?
Baby gravy?
What?
Yeah, anything's dating up, she's right.
That's hilarious.
That is her.
And it's a fact.
What?
It's fact.
I ain't no word will get him horny, bro.
Listen, you can't go too.
Get him on all of them.
You definitely knew that.
You throw all the words at these bitches.
Look.
I ain't even going to be of words to these bitches. Look.
I ain't even gonna send you.
You got me.
It's cool, I ain't gonna send you.
Later on, I might go through some more of these
just because they're pretty creative.
Oh shit.
They're trying to play the Shannon audio in my phone.
Every time I open my phone,
that Shannon audio is right at the top.
I'm trying to avoid it because I don't know what's real
and what's fake and what's doctored and what isn't.
I'm just trying to wait.
I'm just trying to wait it out.
Fair, fair.
I just love that he said the video was 30 seconds.
The real interaction was a whole 10 minutes.
Whole 10 minutes.
Put the whole thing out.
Right.
I also don't know about famous men allowing themselves
to be recorded and not keeping the video.
Or maybe he sounded like he didn't know.
He didn't know.
He didn't know he was being recorded.
She caught on to the crib.
And I'm also
Yo
Let me ask you this if if that is the case right why is he at this girl's house?
She might have been at his house recording him. She could have been how do you still get to record? Oh, I don't I don't know how that pans out. She could have little spy camera shit
You know what type of technology is out here? My thing is this, is it safe to say
that if somebody is recording you,
that they plan to use that recording at a later time?
Yes.
You get what I'm saying?
And that's so scary, my nigga.
If we take Shannon at face value too,
when he recorded himself on Instagram Live,
he's not very good with technology,
is I guess what I'm clear something I still don't believe that
when you actually hit Instagram live yes okay happens to be all the time and
then started selling dick pills right next episode yeah yeah I don't know
is that what he did yeah yeah. Yeah, literally. Soon after.
Started announcing his dick pill sponsors.
Pills, yes.
Yeah, niggas started selling the rhinos right after.
And we covered it here.
That's crazy.
I remember covering the thing, I didn't know he started selling the monkey meat.
That's funny.
What are you calling me?
He'd say shit like that and they look at me.
Who told you your shit should be called a monkey?
Nobody nigga, whatever you...
I don't...
Yo, what you call your shit nigga?
Pichotazo.
Whatever.
Who the fuck come up with another name for whatever nigga wanna call like Monkey?
Y'all have names for your dicks? No. No. Oh, okay.
Just making sure. I thought I was missing out on something. No, nigga. You got a name for your dick?
I'm not saying a person. I'm saying your lady.
Me and Mike coming over here. He said me and Mike coming over here. He just working.
It definitely would be. I'm Jay too.
Right.
Watch your mouth.
I'm going to give you that right.
Old night.
Yo, me and Jeffrey coming today, baby.
Yo, I'm saying, your lady doesn't refer like,
you know when you have like little nicknames
for certain things as a couple, she
don't got like a nickname for certain things?
Please let us know one of your lady's nicknames for certain things. As a couple, she don't got like a nickname for certain things. Please let us know one of your ladies' nicknames
for your Johnson.
I don't have one.
One of your women.
Come on.
I've had, no, I've had it referred.
Give us a name, nigga.
Oh shit, Mugsy.
Mugsy.
Ha ha ha.
Spud.
Yo, Spud! He played Mandy! Yo that's funny! Yo! Spongebob won the dunk contest, yo. Chill out.
Chill out.
He got hops.
He got hops, nigga.
Fuck you.
Oh shit.
Shit little with energy.
He's going to the gun.
He's as thick as Michael Adams.
He's a little bit of a dick.
He's a little bit of a dick.
He's a little bit of a dick.
He's a little bit of a dick.
He's a little bit of a dick.
He's a little bit of a dick.
He's a little bit of a dick.
He's a little bit of a dick.
He's a little bit of a dick.
He's a little bit of a dick.
He's a little bit of a dick.
He's a little bit of a dick. He's a little bit of a dick. He's a little bit of a dick. He's a little bit of a dick. He's a little bit of a dick. Oh shit, your shit little with energy. I'm going up the gutter.
It's as thick as Michael Adams.
Holy shit.
Oh man.
That's crazy, son.
Oh man.
You ain't going to tell?
Nah.
You got it, bro.
It's a safe space to tell this kind of stuff.
Tell us.
Nah, I was just asking y'all.
If I'm on it, get a nose ring. He would look like a stud
Yo, you do look like Bernice
That's funny sir the Bernice of the stud world. Yeah man Ice Nite here. There's something going around right now where they're saying Bernice, people are saying that Bernice looks like just every 40, there's plenty of 40 year old women that look like Bernice.
Wait who said that? People. Just people are saying that on the internet. Yes I saw know, Twitter, yeah. And you mad Ice not here because?
It doesn't matter.
Why would they say that?
I wanted to hear him speak to it.
And he's not here.
I miss the guys and women.
Like I miss the three people who are here.
Clean it up with your shirt on.
I meant.
With your little feminist shirt on.
I miss the gang.
I miss the gang, I miss the whole gang here miss the gang. I was with the whole gang here.
It's a good show though, but it's you know.
You think that?
Well, they what?
Yeah, your opinion on it.
On what?
Which one?
Bernice is just the average 40 year old.
I think my opinion on this is well documented.
We don't need my opinion.
No.
Not in anywhere.
Nowhere.
Nowhere.
She's not the average 30 year old.
I think she's got the 30 year old bitches.
Right, I was saying she got them all wiped out.
Average?
Yeah.
I don't think people know what average is.
She got some 20 year olds.
She might have got the average 20 year old wiped out.
Yeah, fuck me.
Are we talking about averages?
It is.
On an average, yeah, for sure.
Face card alone.
And I'm mad Ice is not here
because I want to ask him if this is my New York bias,
my Bernice views.
No, no.
No.
Yeah, I don't think so.
We have Instagram.
Yeah, it's right.
Yeah, that's true.
I don't have anything else that I need to get off of my
mind and spirit and soul.
How about you guys? Call me a fucking stud. that I need to get off of my mind and spirit and soul.
How about you guys?
Call me a fucking stud.
I know bro, seriously.
Yo, you look like a Nicky.
I'm a fucking Nicky.
And whatever he did to his hair,
there's something going on.
Yeah.
Now you gotta go lay something down.
Just like, now you gotta just go balk us out there.
Muggsy going for 30 tonight.
Yo stop calling Muggsy Muggsy too yo.
Muggsy Muggsy.
Yo Muggsy.
Muggsy is fucking insane.
Yo that's insane.
Muggsy is fucking insane.
I wish somebody would call him Muggsy.
Oh my god. Alright sleeper, sleeperer sleeper sleepers sleeper sleeper sleepers sleeper
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I'm realizing that, slowly as things go by.
Sinners was fucking great.
I really loved it.
It was very Tarantino-esque.
I don't want to do any spoilers or go deep dive
because I know y'all are going to see it tonight.
So we'll talk about it on Friday, but I really loved that.
Really cannot wait.
I got date night set up for it and everything.
Oh yeah, we had a little bit of 420 Edibles left over.
So we, you know what I mean?
Oh, you saw it on edibles?
Oh, fuck yeah.
Oh, that's a good idea.
I like it so much, I think I'm gonna go again this week.
I'm not mad at that.
That's what's up.
That's why you're going again this week.
I'm going by myself.
I'm going by myself.
The first time I went with my homegirl,
we both enjoyed it, but movies like that,
I want to sit by myself
and just really watch.
Okay.
Can't shit, can't shit.
I ain't saying nothing, man.
I swear, can't shit.
I'm not saying nothing, yo.
Mugs are outside.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Lil Mugs!
Yo, that's my damn video.
Look at this.
Lil Mugs.
All right, I am going with Destin Conrad.
This record is called Kissing in Public.
["Kissing in Public"] I'm with you I'm with you I'm with you
I'm with you
I'm with you
I'm with you
I'm with you
I'm with you
I'm with you
I'm with you
I'm with you
I'm with you
I'm with you I'm with you Hold my body Don't hesitate when I kiss you
You know I'm with you
Hold my body
You like it, I love it
So long you can't keep above it
We kiss and it's love
You're in and out of discussion
You like it, I love it
So long you can't keep above it
We kiss and it's love you can't get above it We can't stop, you love it
You're getting it up, up, this love
You're so far, fuck my job
You in LA, I'm in London
You're so shy, I wonder why
You won't do my heart
I really wonder why you're on the mou-ou-ou-ou-ou I really wonder why
It wants me dry
I could let it slide
Cause you're so fly
Oh, I
Things don't change when I'm with you
It don't feel brand new
Hold my back
Don't hesitate when I kiss you
You know I'm with you
Hold my back
You like it, I love it
So now you can't be without me
Forget you, live on me
In and out of discussions
You like it, I love it
So now you can't be without me
Forget you, live on me
In and out of discussions
Don't call me late night or in the day time
Or we outside making love with
Kissing and hugging
Kissing and hugging
Kissing and forgive, kiss it and forgive, kiss it and forgive
Things don't change when I'm with you, you don't feel brand new
Hold my body, don't hesitate when I kiss you
You know I'm with you Hold my body
These old chains when I'm with you It don't feel brand new
Hold my body Don't hesitate when I kiss you you know I'm with you
hold my body
do I give, I love
so are you thinking about me
forget you, you love me
you give me love
oh discussion
do I give, I love
so are you thinking about me
forget you, you love me oh discussion I'm a little bit of a I'm a little bit of a I'm a little bit of a
I'm a little bit of a
I'm a little bit of a
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I'm a little bit of a
I'm a little bit of a I'm a little bit of a Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!
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Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! I was checking out, she was checking in. Okay.
Oh, my God.
I just got finished giving the hotel manager back the room key.
Bro, bless it.
That's some old shit.
I was outside in the car, That's some old shit. And all of a sudden another car pulled up on the parking lot But I couldn't believe my eyes, cause the woman that was sitting in the front seat beside
another dude Turned out to be my old lady
Lord, I was checking out
And she was checking in, yeah, yeah, yeah
That's funny, son. That is funny
Let me tell you people, I was checking out
And my old lady was checking in
Oh Lord, that was so sad
I was with my other woman
And she, she was with her boyfriend
She waited outside I can't believe she would do that. Wow. Shhh.
The nerve of her.
Here we go.
She waited outside y'all, in the car.
Crazy.
While he went in, yeah, to rent the room.
I wanted to say something to her
But there was nothing I could say
Cause the woman I was with
Yeah she was married to Lord
I was checking out
And she was checking in
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Before you killed me
I saw another man took my old lady
Took my baby
Let me tell you
In the hideaway motorway
Motorway
Mmm I was with my other woman And she was with her boyfriend She was supposed to be at home, minding the kids, to both of us, had been untrue. I have to go on being blind.
I can't reveal a gift about showing my love.
I was checking out.
That is Donn Covay.
I was checking out.
She was checking in.
I saw this from 1973.
I love it.
Oh, bullshit, it's timeless. I love it. I saw this from 1973.
Bullshit is timeless. I love it.
I'm going to ASEAN and the song is What's Up With It. Let me get you like what you see Wish you sign you compatible with me I think we are a diss at all my time and ain't for free
And if you bought that action, baby, come roll with me
Yeah, yeah
BBS, sliding down her neck
Her did, she know the shitty shit
On bread, she bought her own crib
Say she want me, don't know who she fucking with
You wanna pray, you wanna pray
So you wanna hurt
I'm not you in the games
But I'll show you what it's worth
What's happening, baby?
You look a little anxious, baby
We could just lie, panics to the side
Get a little active, baby I act but ain't acting baby
Cause you was my favorite lady, really I'm the one
Really then they come, would you come save me baby baby
Tell me what's up with it
What's up with it
What's up with it What's up with it? What's up with it?
I ain't bout to lie to you, I won't win her
I know you want me too, baby, don't front
What's up with it?
What's up with it?
Let me get your life
What you see, what you see
What's your sign, are you compatible with me?
I think we oughta diss it all my time and make it free
And if you're bout that action baby come roll with me
Yeah, yeah
Yeah she fly, she roll a good spin
Smart though, she stay on the ship
Ain't no drama, she say money is a bitch
She happy, she be sage and this shit you wanna play
So you wanna hurt
I'm not doing the games
But I'll show you what it's worth
What's happening baby? You look a little anxious baby
We could just slide panties to the side Get a little active baby
I act but I ain't hacking baby Cause you was my favorite lady
Really I'm the one, really didn, won't you come save me maybe baby Tell me what's up with it, what's up with it
What's up with it, what's up with it
What's up with it, what's up with it
I ain't bout to lie to you, I know you want me down, baby, don't front out
It's something
Something, something, something That's a bop. I fuck with it. I don't know, you guys gotta like fight for who goes next.
We go in seniority order, he's next.
Okay.
That's patient.
So diplomatic of you.
It's great.
This record is, believe it or not, it's Tabea?
Okay.
If I'm saying your name wrong, I'm sorry.
But it's Tabe to be how much I care I'm in love with you But I'm too shy to show
Even though I'm all in I'm big enough to you
As much as I like to control it
I want you to choose
I may be a little unsure
I may be too shy to show you Let me find a way to tell you
I will find a way to show you Let me find a way to tell you I will find a way to show you Just how much I really care
I know
You didn't even know
I know that you are overthinking It's best when you move in slow
Best believe it or not Like I told you, come inside
I'm not showing up quite got Hitting safely from the start
Just believe it, come and start I didn't choose to be in love with you
It's what you do to me I may be too shy to show you
Let me find a way to tell
I will find a way to go
Just how much I really care
I might be an angel
I may be too little bit true I'm able to shine, to show you
Let me find a way to tell you
I will find a way to show you
Just know that I'm in the air That is, I want to make sure I say I name her Tabiah.
It looks like Tabiah to me, but I could be wrong.
Are you Noah?
No, no, no.
I just bumped into the record the other day.
No, bumped into the record the other day.
But sorry if I pronounce your name wrong, but that's how much I care for a record.
Yeah. Mark? Up tough. Fire record.
Yeah.
Mark?
Up next, our brother.
What to me?
Our brother Wiz Khalifa just dropped the album last week.
The whole album is Fire.
And I chose How We Act featuring OT Genesis.
Let's go. Yeah, it's your boy, boy, boy Mr. Easy Wine, back up the stage
Ten Pigs, that's two pounds of that crush, with cushion orange juice too
So put two fingers in the air, grab two girls with long hair
And nice them up with whiskey for y'all
Both hands on the wheel, she was Taylor Gang, she Taylor Gang still Them niggas boring, she hit me, she wanna chill for y'all. I feel my cup and cleaning up is feel When I indulge in what I'm puffing I can tell that she troubles some two girls. That's double fun
Show off what you got don't gotta cover up
Don't look behind to see what's in front of us like this weed is a couple of them say you can get it
Tatted if it ain't the gang fuck them don't really trip on other bitches. You the main one switching the whips
I never pull up in the same one
She wanna cut I wanna cuddle to legs in the air dick in the same one She wanna cuddle, I wanna cuddle too
Legs in the air, dick in the middle, that's a W
Ain't tryna fuck you, better say something
Mashed potatoes, rice and beans, you ain't the main one
Only hate when you get your cake up
I'm never mad at A's
Or a bitch that I can't fuck
Still hitting from the back
That's how we act
I'm the one that you hit up to come relax
I'm the one getting you Taylor Gang tats
Putting that all on your body, rubbing your back
I'm rolling up and you rolling the match
I get some on my back
You wanna drink but don't know how to ask
You love the feeling, you hope that it lasts
Cause at the moment we both feel intense
No, I'm gon' get a chance
Nobody put you on the game, help you program it in
Don't wanna leave, you wanna stay with me so it depends
One of the G you really got, one I just know how to win
Like when I see you need a rollie to go on your wrist
Me and my team we make the goal, we don't know we a 10
So like to sweep and get your phone cuz the homie a wimp
Ain't no half with me 100 is the only percent
She wanna cuddle, I wanna cuddle too
Legs in the air, dick in the middle, that's a W
Ain't tryna fuck, you better say some
Mashed potatoes, rice and beans, you ain't the main ones
All I hate them, get your cake up
I never met an 80, or a bitch that I can't fuck
Still hittin' from the back
That's Wiz Khalifa and OT Genesis, How We Act, off Cushion Orange Juice, Volume 2. Fire, shout out to Wiz.
Shout out to Wiz, always.
If you've ever seen our Wiz interviews on Patreon right now, check it out.
Coolest guy in the world.
Check it out.
Yeah, amazing.
Yeah, cool in the other side of the pillow, shout out to Wiz.
Was that it? That's it. Oh, the last of out. Yeah, amazing. Cool in the other side of the pillow, shout out to Wiz.
Was that it?
That's it.
Oh, the last of it?
Oh, shit.
Oh, okay.
So, let me find something here.
Find a little Diddy.
Find a little Mark Morrison B-side or something.
You know, you know.
You play that?
You don't want to play a little Diddy, you should look, I'm playing a little, did he look for Mark Morris in these sides?
There we go.
Alright.
Nice, peaceful day.
Static selection.
Easy, easy.
Hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we have enjoyed delivering it to you
Here you go
Keep us in your prayers, Lord knows we need to be there until the next time
We bid you a due farewell, adios, to Riva Durce, hasta la vista, arrebois So long, goodbye, oh, a simple head nod will suffice
Overtime I've been too humble, time to up the wages
Eight figures later, got my life on the line
Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass
And if you wanna make it out, you know that
So let's make this one last, as if it's all we have
And lastly, ego
In my bank, no, I'm just a freak out, I'm a freak out
The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women wanna travel
And the close-minded women want you to teach them things
Grab a Tylenol, you might need it
Remember be careful what you say out there
Never know who'll be seated in the garden right in front of you
Or recording you
You never know, gotta be careful at all times
Head on a swivel in New York man
Stay safe, safety first Yeah, head on a swivel in New York man stay safe
safety first
Make it back to your family your children and love you. Hey remember your kids see you as Captain America man your superhero to them See you as Captain America man you're superhero to them
Niggas outside see you as Captain Kangaroo
Captain Crunch
Captain Crunch
Some of us stayed alive through the World Star era
Yeah
Niggas was playing knockout and screaming World Star in the background
Oh that was a nasty time Be careful man Niggas was playing knockout and screaming world star in the background. Oh
Be careful man
They're gonna tell the world how much money you make make sure your horny is contained to a nominal level I
Don't think that black men should be running around saying yo a hundred M's next month I'm not sure that anybody should but yeah, especially maybe
Yeah No one should 100 M's next month. I'm not sure that anybody should, but yeah, especially, maybe. Yeah.
No one should.
Especially if you black.
Fucking Joe Rogan, man.
He got niggas just saying.
It was.
That's what did it.
Spotify did it.
There was nobody else.
Spotify did this.
These companies have just ruined us.
And I took them public, man.
I didn't know that was their intention, man. I would've did something different.
Yeah, it's hate to me. I don't give a fuck, nigga.
Look what you created.
Look what you created.
It's two things.
Shout out to Iceflip of Mel yo
We love y'all work was a lot harder without y'all today, but we managed to get through it D
They would us in spirit shout freeze. This is a happy anniversary to freeze and miss freeze
Shout to our good sister Mel shout to Flip who's a little under the weather.
Get well, get well.
Get well, get better man.
We need you on Friday.
And when you sick on a Wednesday,
I would just tough it out and use that day for the Friday.
Get a little extended trip.
Not wrong.
Shout out to my dad going to Puerto Rico next weekend
with his lady for a little fun time
hey!
Salute!
I ain't gonna lie, I need one of them weekends.
I need a quick weekend in Turks or DR or fucking somewhere.
Yeah I'll take my little Nashville, that's good for me.
Then we're doing Puerto Rico later in the summer so.
Puerto Rico for me is in August.
See what weekend?
You know?
Yeah yeah.
Where you staying at out there? I'm supposed to go to Tennessee in August. See, what we can, you know. Yeah, yeah.
Where you staying at out there?
I'm supposed to go to Tennessee in May.
I work.
Oh, you still in that phase of your life.
What are you talking about?
You still in that phase of your life.
I hate the assumptions.
She gonna tape you.
Somebody gonna tape you.
Yo, and again, whoever has the footage of my last fight,
please release it.
Please put it out so we can got nothing going on this week man. Not that I could think of anyway sinners tomorrow. Oh shit
I did see the first episode of black mirror finally. Boy, that was great. Yeah, first episode was great. Amazing. The first two were great. What a really great episode. Let me stop the music of Black Mirror.
That was a great first episode. It was. Because it's real. It is. You could see it. It, one percent.
Dog, not to spoil it for anybody out there, but I'm gonna spoil it.
If my robot wife is now doing ads,
I'm gonnaging her.
You didn't get the ad free version of your wife is nuts.
Mark, have you seen the first episode of Black Mirror?
I haven't seen it yet.
I need to.
The way Mel said it, they didn't.
They just popped it up on her.
Yeah, yeah.
You didn't know there was an ad free version.
No, you didn't know.
Yeah, that's crazy.
You didn't, but every month there was a new plus, living plus that you could get and you've
got to charge you more now and if you get pregnant we got to charge you more now.
Yes.
And at the end, you know, I don't want to spoil it.
I'm going to watch.
I don't want to spoil it.
But really good way to bounce back Black Mirror.
Yeah, for sure.
Just off that first episode, that's better than that last doppelganger, whatever the name of that bullshit was y'all put out.
Oh yeah.
I forgot the name of it.
Episode two was good too.
Episode two was good.
The end was a little weird.
Little stupid ending but.
Yeah.
And the other three weren't bad,
they just weren't as good to me.
That's the first thing.
Listen, stay tuned on Patreon.
We will be discussing how Jason Statham
makes the same exact movie, but I'm gonna go and give him my money every single time.
I'm going to see this Worker Man shit.
You gotta watch Last of Us.
Oh my, the last episode.
Bro.
Last of Us.
All episodes came out.
No, only two episodes.
Only two episodes.
Oh, I seen one.
Yeah, we buggered out.
Last of Us started in an amazing way. Yeah
So one two episode two. I'm saying one was I see to you one was warm up one was warming it up
All right, so last of us I still need to see Godfather Harlem. I finished yellow
So that show is absolutely phenomenal. So front to back. Yeah, I can't wait to start yellow stone
I see why he gets the green light for all that shit got it mm-hmm oh yes they beefing
until next time
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