The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 825 | "K"

Episode Date: May 14, 2025

 The latest JBP episode begins with a recap of Mother’s Day 2025 (19:00) as well as the room’s review of Kendrick Lamar & SZA’s show at Metlife Stadium last Friday night (26:38). Melyssa shares... her experience at the Broadway revival of Shakespeare's "Othello" featuring Denzel Washington and Jake Gyllenhaal (52:38), P. Diddy’s trial is underway (1:03:10), and the latest from Tory Lanez after he was rushed to a hospital following a stabbing (1:23:34). Also, the NBA’s Draft Lottery (1:44:37) and Michael Jordan is set to join NBA on NBC (1:52:40), triggering text messages and communication expectations (1:56:49), Jayden Daniels mother appears on ‘The Pivot’ to address her public backlash (2:19:35), Joe says he’s standing with Teyana Taylor (2:44:55), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden  Sleeper Picks:  Joe | Mariah the Scientist - “Burning Blue” Ice | Snoop Dogg - “Unsung Heroes” Parks | Ben Kenobe - “SMOKE” Ish | TA Thomas - “Devotion” Melyssa | Anike - “WAKANDE”

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The thoughts views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only I Repeat it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing revealing indicting Or telling you anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals. Do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. That's a side of the dance, you saying, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Yeah, go ahead. What happened? Tell them, like, freeze. Shoot. No, I'm just saying that's a side of the dance. Yeah. That's a side of the dance, eh? Because people do like it. That's part of Mel's manipulation. My manipulation.
Starting point is 00:00:43 She tells me to shoot and get right on that axe. Oh my god! I can't believe he said that! The workplace! The workplace! He landed on me. The workplace! My god, you know, for a room full of dudes
Starting point is 00:01:06 who really fucking hate when girls bring up the past, y'all sure remember the motherfucking past. Mm. She tried to reverse card, I see. I reversed voodoo all motherfucking day up here. Oh, she lit, oh. All day. That white nigga got lit, uh-oh. Oh.
Starting point is 00:01:21 You're jumping the gun. Male is in the band. You're jumping the gun. And that ain't my, that ain't my, uh. That's my beef, nigga. Yeah, I'm not in that segment. I am in that. That's a flip segment.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Yeah. I'm not in that segment. I feel like Mel should be able to do whatever she wants outside of the park without being around the houseboy. Why do you say that when the camera come on and remove yourself from your situations? Without being around the houseboy, co-host.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Why do you say that? You think just like me, we think alike. Yeah, but you can't say it. We saw Tommy Hilfiger's son in that picture, boy. Big old man. Whatever that nigga name is. I'm about to say, was that Tommy Hilfiger's son? No.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Does he look like Tommy Hilfiger's son? I don't care. I just lied. But he put like this. You lied and said, yo, I'm going to record you. And then you tried to move past him. The bill, talk about it later. We'll talk about it later, man. Yo, where do you see this stuff?
Starting point is 00:02:04 They sent it to me. They sent it to me as well. My man Simon sent it to you? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man?
Starting point is 00:02:10 What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man?
Starting point is 00:02:17 What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man?
Starting point is 00:02:24 What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What's up, man? What. And I thought about you this week, and like, yo, he really losing weight. That shit be futile to me, son. Yeah, cause he stop eating sugar. I hit somebody up, like, yo, I need that. I said, cause you look good. Look how you grilling me, you look good. And when I compliment you, I think it's old shit. Yo, you still sticking to the,
Starting point is 00:02:40 I stop eating sugar line, that's all I'm asking. Like is that, you confident, and that's the one we riding with still for real, honestly. That's what you telling to people that love you and care about you that you know forever. Y'all stop eating sugar and look. That's what you tell us? I thought about the Ozempic thing.
Starting point is 00:02:58 You're not gonna answer me for real today? But then I watch him eat the whole salad bowl, whatever, I watch him eat it. You think that's how sugar works? You tell us how sugar works, nutritionist. You don't stop and then just lose 40 pounds. I didn't lose 40 pounds. How many you lost?
Starting point is 00:03:13 11. That was a hefty one. You would know. Hell, nigga. Yo, Mark, go in the bathroom. What's up, Mark? Mark, just be him. Blow your nose. We need the on-air sign.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Like a big one. Silence. On-air. Cory be doing laundry. Washing dishes. Opening boxes. Mark got a midget. You can do that when the numbers is coming in, huh? You can just do whatever you want. Yeah, sure. Anything else?
Starting point is 00:03:46 You want to go to the store to you want to get us some drinks? Now I go lie I slept on them educated niggas What you say you yeah to the educators? Hey guys! Hello, hello. Good day. Boo, boo, hello. Boo.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Boo. Boo. Free, what up? What's up, man? How y'all feeling? Feel good, yo. I'm good. Good, good.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Happy to see y'all. Yeah, happy to be here. This weekend felt extra, just, it ain't feel like a short weekend like they normally do. There's a lot of shit going on this weekend. Yeah, a to be here. This weekend felt extra, just, it ain't feel like a short weekend like they normally do. There's a lot of shit going on this weekend. Yeah, a lot of shit. You're doing a good one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Check out over there. ["Sweet Home"] I'm gonna keep trying to push it. Oh, a hundred. I'll get it there. And then has there ever stalled out in it? I feel like that is the New York Knicks. I really do. I feel like they have pushed the margin and
Starting point is 00:05:05 your gas tank and I feel like it's starting to fade out and what I say he's like 19 points on 18 shots Jason Tatum my man Jay will right so I'm in the game shut the fuck up Jay will so when they get seriously my my my my my my For sure I'm not taking him seriously. I'm still not taking up either. I still think the sub to the series I think I had to put money. That's where I bet it I take the odds about the Celtics for sure and theicks don't blow don't let someone now don't let the Celtics off
Starting point is 00:05:46 the hook by saying oh well the Knicks are no they're not they're trash you felt they were trash five days ago you thought they were trash five weeks ago you thought they were trash five months ago five years ago because you know why they're trash They're garbage Oh Fuckin expand big bomb Jerry O'Connell Bad bunny all you Knicks fans who paid a million dollars Is to one next but the series is over you didn't think like you guys played good in game one and two Did you like we're missing any gym threes you guys think? You fucking Mike check Mike check one two one two one two Mike check Mike check one two 1 2 1 2 Mike check Mike check 1 2 1 2 1 2 Boston was good
Starting point is 00:07:11 Whistler was good Springfield was good Yes, sir welcome to real to the records Players zero rings amongst them you got to do like a second great franchise spiky Everyone Timothy Shambhala on bay Jumping around In you knew it I give you credit celebrate when you can we missed a million things that the two were shooting games of the season But that wouldn't last with a world champ. New York City what up though?
Starting point is 00:07:47 New World Championship with Red Armbats. Subway Series this weekend. The Atlanta's come out of our hands. You knew that one. Yeah yeah Queens what up though? There's a lot of good teams. OKC, Denver. Harlem what up though? I'd even say like Indiana and Cleveland. Boogie damn You like it down for real like you have no soul, no hopes, no life. Go around and bing bong and this and that. But you do it, and I do it. You never had a chance.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Bing bong everybody! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yes sir! Mmm Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah One, two, now stop Let's go What you gonna do? We can't stay alive forever Until this shit hit the fan And we might as well die together
Starting point is 00:09:20 Every hood what up though? We're forcing more challenges All the way for the ladies All the way for the ladies If I wanted I'm gonna have it I All my teachers, all my poster workers, all my traders out there, all my entertainers out there, all! Talk to em now! It's been 25 years! Y'all know what the fuck is going on right now! We are! I'm gonna flip when I call a bitch, I should be in the teeth Or I could feel her throwing me in the trash She's sweet, but if she didn't get ugly Then the master piece would have been worse
Starting point is 00:10:08 Everybody, let's do it right now! Robbed her on the chukas Wrath of her! Spent great hoes, home from college And the fuckers, I didn't hear the drop Knowledge on you suckers I see you rock flowers when you fuckers Cops following in the tukas
Starting point is 00:10:18 Time down into the sushes Whole lot of zeros when it comes to pay Bobble is sold out of here Oh, I'm gonna break my legs Throw a berry besides my food The black man's star paper I roll a soul out of hero I lay on the floor, buried beside my own black name shout to all the haters out there all the subgroups out there, all the patrolytes out there they smoking bout a big screen, changing the channel
Starting point is 00:10:32 looks like I'm playing the game shout out to my loved ones, it ain't love one, you heard I put a dot on your head like it's party or religion now I party with the pigeon, I'm going with the ten cause we were standing out flags for a party in the present shout to all the mothers out there with the blue and red straps, I'm the the kitchen, I'm over the tent Cause more skin than outflasks for a party in the present Shout to all the mothers out there Look at me, I'm red straps, I'm the last rapper to skin
Starting point is 00:10:48 This is Craig Mack, and I'm on as a fast dog When they ain't proud, I'm getting dressed as my closet I'm on my ass, I'm passing by, I'm running when you startin' to breathe I'm leaving 12 shells in their mouth like a car in the A's I'm a young parent, part of my age I don't got long hair, but if I did she'd be part of my braids You just find out what club they at, take it with us, we run the train on a one in subway map Your advances a great aggro, see these record labels, got moves artists, get fucked like the gay rapper
Starting point is 00:11:16 I'm on a carriage on a tour, I'm going down to history, nigga, mixed to all the session corn Rest in peace, bot, text how it's in the drawer, I'm the one who's by the Rest in peace, Ben! You hear me, man? You hear me, man? You hear me, man? You hear me, man? You hear me, man? You hear me, man? You hear me, man?
Starting point is 00:11:38 You hear me, man? You hear me, man? You hear me, man? You hear me, man? You hear me, man? Boat we smoking fishing gear As he in a rope remotes Glad to snatch our sick cause the equipment But your friends for our suicide this is a great show I'm down for y'all today. Best crew in the world. Stealin' the projects, niggas. Steal the projects. Swayin' on and on with it, at all.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I'm gonna fuck with you, niggas. I'm gonna fuck with you, niggas. You will, in the morning. Woo, what a freestyle. Goddamn. Woo. So what happened with the next one, Piketty? What type of time I'm on today?
Starting point is 00:12:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's gonna be a hard day. Let me keep these applause going for the best crew in the world. Let me get these drops out the way so they know who they're listening to. So happy.
Starting point is 00:12:31 So happy, everybody could be here with us today. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, enough of that. You could've been anywhere in the world, but you're here with us and we certainly appreciate that. All praise to the most high. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, But you're here with us and we certainly appreciate that. All praise to the Most High for putting breath in our lungs. So merciful.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Come on, keep this applause going. Excuse me, sir, I'm sorry I have to wake you, Doctor. Flip and mail, mail, mail. What episode is this? 825. 825? That's right. Welcome to episode 825 of the J.B.P. Brought to you by, fueled by, powered by,
Starting point is 00:13:20 prize picks, Dave Portnoy, shut the fuck up. Prize picks Dave Portnoy shut the fuck up Jay Williams that's my man too that's my man shut the fuck up got a list of people that need to shut the fuck up today and guess who ain't on that list you guessed it me I know they hate that I know they hate when I come in here in my bag. I know they want to see him humiliated, humbled, calm even, wrong, held accountable. That's how I say it, right? Oh, somebody's got to hold Joe accountable. Suck my dick, nigga. How about that? Mixed in fucking five like the fuck I said. The fuck is wrong with you niggas out there?
Starting point is 00:14:09 You said it. I mean, don't count now. Man, listen. It still counts. Man, listen. Tatum hurt, man. Well, before we go any further, our prayers to Jason Tatum. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:19 We absolutely love Jason Tatum. We hate seeing that every time it happens. Yeah You know my heart goes out to him and his entire family regardless of what type of sports fan you are Some of these guys are really just really good guys. Yeah, and Jason Tatum is one of those people I don't want to see that. Yeah, no I hope I hope it's not as bad as they're saying it is. It was people were saying. It looked like what we think it looked like. It looks exactly like an Achilles injury, unfortunately. But people were saying because his pain tolerance is high,
Starting point is 00:14:51 some people are confused into thinking it wasn't as bad as it was because he wasn't screaming and flipping and doing all the stuff that some people do. But some people just have a high pain tolerance. Yes, he was. Yeah, he fucking was. When I saw him back, when I saw him. When I saw him.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah, the small TV must be. I don't know what TV they was watching on, but when that camera panned back and he was banging on the hardwood. Yeah and even back even back in the locker room I thought it looked like he was looked like an Achilles reaction but people people on TV were saying it wasn't he was reacting like it could have been a small tear or a sprain and not a full tear. Yo aren't you a Sixer fan? Yes we had a great night.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Mark Lamont Hill. We had a great night. Mark Lamont Hill. We had a great night last night. Shut the fuck up! Gotta add him to the list. We got the lottery though, nigga. I'm sorry, we're not talking about the lottery right now. We're talking about being up 3-1 against the defending champs when everybody counted us out. That's all we're talking about right this second.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Oh God. We was up 2-0. Charles Barkley and them niggas said, game three is a must win for the Knicks. When have you ever heard such insanity? Amazing. You got to be up three zip against the defending champs, or you going to lose.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Y'all niggas was gargling Celtic dick. Let's just call a fucking spade a spade. I told you them niggas is old, hobbled, washed up, poor Zing is poop, right? Put him on the fall off list. I don't know what the fuck happened to him. He looked like shit. He looked horrible.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Drew Howell, that's my man. So I ain't gonna say too much about him. That's my man. That's my man. And when I was talking shit at the game, because I was behind the Celtics bench for game three, when I was talking shit, he heard me and turned around. He heard me and turned around He like that when you go to these games and be right behind the opposing team's bench and start talking shit the black People that's involved with that team is gonna talk back to you and say something I'm talking about assistant coaches staff if it's a black ball boy them niggas gonna look around So I was talking my shit drew all they turned around looked at me like I was a athlete He turned around looked at me like I was fucking Glenn. He turned around looked at me like I was fucking
Starting point is 00:17:05 Glenn Robinson or somebody was like all right watch now now watch this. I was like whoa whoa whoa chill bro. I'm joking. He turned around with the passion and competitiveness in his eyes. I'm just kidding dog. I don't know what you are just chill and anyway that was short lived because it was a blowout but yeah enough now enough and we ain't even starting with this I just felt compelled I just felt compelled to come in here and speak this way being up 3-1 Eastern Conference finals looks like it's in our in our near future oh Semi finals. Are you a Laker fan? Antoine.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Shut the fuck up. ECF Antoine. Not semi nothing. Ain't no semi no more. The Celtics are going home off the semi yeah I mean hey and y'all not alone sometimes you tried to get it done as a nigga off the semi and it don't work hey hey sometimes you ain't as hard as you thought hold on nigga I'm cooking now. I'm gunshot. I'm gunshot now. Come on man, help me out.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Fuckin' hit the gunshot. Look, get out of here girl. Okay. 12th of the niggas. Seven for you nigga. Come on, we gonna start this show. I don't wanna take over. I don't wanna be that self-centered.
Starting point is 00:18:33 But right after that, Price Big Sat, we back. We back. How's everybody doing? How y'all feeling? Good. Good. Good. Good.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. self-centered. But right after that, Price Big Sat, we back. We back. How's everybody doing? How y'all feeling, man? Please, please, please.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Feeling good. Feeling good, man. Feeling good. Amazing. Had a fun weekend. Yeah. Exhausted from the fun weekend, but it was a fun weekend. Yeah, I'm sitting there for a while.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there. Let's start. Let's start there. How was everyone's Mother's Day? Mine was pretty cool. Mine was pretty cool. It looked like it. Yeah, mine looked great, she looked happy.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Yeah, fantastic. Yeah, and now the Instagram post of appreciation for your mom is a thing in my house now. So I had to hit them at 8.30 with the, hey, I'll always love my mom. Is that a thing? I didn't do it. I didn't always love my mom. Is that a thing? I didn't do it. I didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:19:27 It is kind of a thing. It is kind of a thing now. If your mom's on Instagram, I guess you gotta do it. My mom's blind, it'd be more for my wife. I can't. I tell my mom she's on Instagram all the time. I tell my mom it's blind. I'm like, I post you every week.
Starting point is 00:19:40 But. Oh shit. Oh my God. My wife won't buy that. So next year I'll start doing it. I ain't always a thing like that. Is that why they call you Dark Lamont Hill? I don't know, it's some secret.
Starting point is 00:19:52 That might be the reason. That was some dark humor. Funny. Is that funny? Oh wait, hold on. They call him Dark Lamont because this is his burner. He comes over here and get off all of his evil fucking treacherous.
Starting point is 00:20:05 But here's what, and I try to leave you alone, but here's what stand out to me. That, you know, when we say dark humor, you know, you guys are horrible, but it's funny when he does dark humor, huh? You just put it's funny behind him. When I did dark humor, can you edit that out please? No, no, that's not dark humor. Oh, see, I got back at me. In defense of Mel. We backed it. That's more fun.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Get him. Get him, oh. In defense, my dark humor was against my own mom. Your dark humor was against her. Oh, damn. Oh, god. Fuck. My mom got mad and she never write.
Starting point is 00:20:39 You right. Say no more. Say no more. Shout out to mom. Shout out to everybody. And your dark humor is misleading, because there's never none of that over the curry duck. Why you keep talking about this curry duck shit, nigga? You're invited, you weirdo.
Starting point is 00:20:50 No, no, I don't want to be invited. No, you're invited, you just don't come to niggas' clans. I gotta point out how phony you are to your sister. I'm phony to everybody, nigga, but I get it from you, nigga. You lead in phoniness up here. No, it's not true. You're the phoniness leader.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Up here? What? Please. Please. Ain't no trying to fire me now,iness up here. No, it's not true. You're the phoniness leader. Up here? What? Please. Please. Ain't no trying to fire me now, fuck outta here. Fuck outta here. I'm not trying to fire you. What was we on, Mother's Day?
Starting point is 00:21:13 Mother's Day, Mother's Day. Mother's Day, what did y'all do? I had a gathering at the house. Okay. We brought our moms together, because that's normally a pain. So I brought my mom up from Philly, she came. I had a little catered event at the house and I had my wife brought
Starting point is 00:21:29 invited some of her friends who are mothers there and it turned out to be about 20-25 people just a nice little nice little thing. Every time you and your wife hold something at the house it feel like her friends dominate like you said your mom came up from Philly and then all her friends, I was 25 at the time, it was like where are your friends? All right here, Joe. Aww. And we ain't getting invited.
Starting point is 00:21:54 To nothing. Facts, words. Well, that's actually, we're gonna go back to that. We like bombs too. Father's Day, I was thinking about doing like a barbecue or something for the brothers and I was gonna invite everybody up here. Well, that's a good idea. Can I come?
Starting point is 00:22:09 Come on. Come on, let Mel come. The wives will be there. That's fine. I've been friends easy. I got somebody I can fucking dust off and bring with me. You know how to bring them. Wives being there is just male up in the difficulty level
Starting point is 00:22:28 of the game. Yeah, niggas. Right. Right. This temple run three, fam. Let's take this off rookie. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:36 You're going to listen, because you're going to have to sit in the corner, sit by yourself. Niggas' moms and moms will be walking around. No, I will not. By the barbecue pit? I will be walking around making friends. Okay, I'll be watching. And I'll record.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I know you will. With my phone, yeah. I know you will. That's a good plan, Mark. I was out at the, I'm coming to that if you do it. I'll guarantee you I'm going to do it if you all. I was out eating, we went to brunch, so while I was out eating, everybody was in such a great mood, we're seeing all these parents and people out, black people out, eating, and shit, like
Starting point is 00:23:02 oh man, I'm going to be a good friend. I went to brunch, so while I was out eating, everybody was in such a great mood, we're seeing all these parents and people out, black people out, eating, and shit, like, oh man, I feel so good, man. Hey, man, Trey, send me your mom phone number, man, come on. Go ahead, man, it's Mother's Day. She a mom, go ahead, send me. Send over.
Starting point is 00:23:22 And I sent my first baby mama happy Mother's Day text. Aw, man. Aw, man. Say, happy Mother's Day a happy Mother's Day text. Aw, man. Aw, man. Say, hey, happy Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day, girl. And she said, oh, thank you so much. Who might this be? Look at you being fast.
Starting point is 00:23:34 That's hilarious. Look at you ready, ready to go. I said, hey. Nah, that's funny. Yo, yo, Tray, he going to ditch you again, niggas. I heard what you said in the par, nigga. Wait, but men think that about anything. Very well.
Starting point is 00:23:42 I was like, yes, baby. I said, hey, I'm going to ditch you. I said, hey, I'm going to ditch you. I said, hey, I'm going to ditch you. I said, hey, I'm going to ditch you. I said, hey, I'm going to ditch you. I said, hey, Iay, he gonna ditch you again, niggas. Your dad heard what you said in the park, nigga. Wait, but men think that about anything. But anyway, what's your favorite baby daddy? Just like, thank you so much, Joe. It just warmed my heart. So my controversial, I know that's dope,
Starting point is 00:23:56 my controversial question for y'all was. That was nice. Did y'all hit? Absolutely. Really? Absolutely. Really? Absolutely. Hitting around a little. Every time, every Mother's Day she get a gift.
Starting point is 00:24:08 She gets a, Come on. That's what I'm saying. Come on man. Happy Mother's Day text. Look at that. Come on man. The giving for me is from my daughter, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Oh you did that trick for my, from my, from the daughter. What type of gift was it? Well she does, I get a different charm for, to commemorate something for her Pandora shit. Oh from Pandora. That's like over $100. No it's not. $40?
Starting point is 00:24:33 They're not over $100. Okay, I'm just saying, I just think your daughter ain't bought that. You bought that, I think you should be mindful. I am very mindful. From your daughter, just get a little card and stuff, have your mother's day. That's what she gets all the time. With respect, I want your ass. There's nothing to, Happy Mother's Day, a little bit. She gets, that's what she gets all the time. With respect, I'm on your ass. There's nothing to be on my ass about, man.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Yeah. Nothing. But yeah, I sent her a text. That was nice. Something from my daughter, a card or whatever. That's nice. Nice. Well, Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there. We certainly hope that y'all enjoyed the day. Hope y'all will shower with love and fucking flowers
Starting point is 00:25:03 and all that good shit. And remember Father's Day is next month. So just, you know. They don't like it, they don't like it, that's it. They don't like that shit. For Mother's Day, for my lady, I just told her, yo, don't even get out the bed. Like, we went out, we went out Saturday.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Don't even get out the bed. Big freeze. Let's go freeze. Y' freeze, get out the bed. Freeze, freeze. Freeze. Let's go freeze. Yo, I'm like, nigga. I got everything. Freeze, freeze. Just whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:25:31 We can take that two ways, but that's fire. No, no, no, no. You know we all took it the other way. I know, I know. I'm about to say, that's not much. Father's Day. You've been like that. Nah, it was more just on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:25:42 You've been like, get out that bed. Hey, whatever you want. It can't be delegations. Whatever you want, you say it and it happens and that's what we was on. For Mother's Day, I left the keys to the handcuffs right there. I was going to stop that shit. Hey, yo, it's right there by the dresser. Hey, let yourself out if you want to. If you can reach it, you can get out.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Alright. You gotta unlock yourself this time. I'ma play back. Certain people don't like their families played with. I'ma play back. Get him. I'ma give him a fuck. I will play back. Nigga, I'm playing.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I'm just letting you know, I will play back. And I want you to. And he will take it further. No, I won't. I let him rock when she was here. He went crazy on me. I watched it back. He was going crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:23 That nigga was like, who? Jordan, nigga. And all this shit shit here I'm like oh shit freeze goddamn I'm on your ass I told you well we all we all had a family well not a family cuz everybody didn't go but shit Mark freeze Parks and myself did go to the Kendrick and the show and EPZ all went to the Kendrick and SZA show. And EPC. And Coral. All went to the Kendrick and SZA show
Starting point is 00:26:50 at MetLife on Friday night. It looked like fun. It's been all the fuss on the internet, so now we get to hear firsthand accounts from people. What did everybody think? Let me get a recap. You know, I even got the little tour shirt on. Me too. Me too. I didn't make it to the merch booth.
Starting point is 00:27:10 I had to. My wife took my jacket. Ah. It was close as a bitch in there. It was my first time going to a merch booth. That's my first stop every time I go somewhere. Oh yeah. Like I missed the first song because I was at the first. I was texting you right before and then I was like, oh, Iced it tight. I'm online. I'm like, I missed the first song because I was at the first. Yeah. I was texting you right before and I was like, I'll ice it tight.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I'm online. I'm like, I heard the crowd. I told my shorty, I'm like, yo, you want to, we only got like seven people ahead of us. You want to just run back in like, fuck it. Let's just buy up our merch now. So we cop our shit didn't win it. Well, when I got there, I was, so I got there a little late. Somehow I managed to get there much later than I planned. I was on the crew chat, like y'all telling me songs and shit. But I thought the show, I had two thoughts. One, the show was amazing. I thought it was an amazing show, and also I'm old as shit.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Oh yeah, I'm still tired from that show. Like it was a long ass show. Bro, they did three hours set. Yeah. That was crazy. A three hours set. Yeah. That was crazy. A three hour set is crazy. But my initial thought was this was art. Like it wasn't just a concert.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Like you needed the visuals they had with it, the way everything went together. Like they, some outfit changes, says a flying up with the fucking wings on, with the backdrops. And they put a full production together. I love this shit. This kind of tied into my thought. I was like, these two are like,
Starting point is 00:28:30 they seem like the kids that were in the art class and the theater class and were kind of nerdy, and now they're on the biggest stage in the world doing superstar shit. Like SZA being up there dancing Madonna and hanging from the shit, some fucking pop star shit. I was like, look at SZA, man. at SZA man. I wouldn't have pictured that. I mean I would because she's amazing and talented and beautiful and all that shit but like she
Starting point is 00:28:52 doesn't seem like the type to do that. She seems like she wants to be in her little art nerd world. And yeah I also like the pre-recorded I usually don't like the pre-recorded skits they're all from Corny to me but these were actually really good when he was like kind of in the deposition. Deposition, that's what I saw. Yeah, he's in a deposition. And at the end, by the time they ended up at the gas station, I thought that whole thing was dope.
Starting point is 00:29:12 It was well done, it was well acted. It was beautiful. It was just well shot. I loved the color scheme, everything. It was just beautiful. The only thing I didn't like, I thought the ending was anticlimactic. Like I thought they should have ended with Luther.
Starting point is 00:29:24 It's over Gloria. Yeah. They're about to sing. It just felt like, all right, the show is over. And it felt like they were stretching a little bit. The show was over after Not Like Us for a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:35 That was the highlight. People started walking out. Like I had the set list, so I knew the two records was left and I knew the order. But I'm just looking like, I think they wanted to send you out on like a, not so tarped up, so they lowered the energy a little bit. My only complaint was Mad City.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I was just, we're on the same page. Bro, you can't do that to Mad City. That flip was fire, but I was expected like, after the first verse, you went for that yats. You cannot do that, it's like an R&B version of Mad City. Yeah, yacht, yacht, yachts. Cannot do that. Yacht, yacht, yacht, yacht. It's like a R&B version of Matty. Yeah, they butchered it. That flip was not fire.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I liked the flip. No, not forever. I didn't like it. He got like the... That flip, that needed a bigger flip. I liked that shit. That shit was absolutely fire, and it should be for sale.
Starting point is 00:30:16 They should sell that shit. I'm not mad at selling it. I'm talking about for the live show version, that is one of those super, super high energy records that rings off anytime he performs it I get what they were trying to let alright be the energy so I get it but I was like I'd rather not do the record no like man I'm just saying Mad City is one of those songs that anytime he it's like smells like
Starting point is 00:30:44 cheese it will break it'll break the venue but you can't strip it down and is one of those songs that anytime he performs it's like smells like tea spirit for me. It'll break the venue. Like you can't have it to lose. I'll strip it down and make it an RMP track. Yeah but that was one of my issues with this show and I'll get to all of my issues later but the contrast in energies during the back and forth sets. So I'm I would think that somebody had that on their mind and knew what that record did energy wise and you got to temper some of that shit if you're going back and forth between SZA set
Starting point is 00:31:13 which was not as energetic as Kendrick and then Kendrick. I wish, I wish one of them would have went out first and then one of them would have went out second Yeah, and they could determine that based on who's hot in what city I get the whole co-headline TDE We're a family art class, but well, I should just a theater class That was fucking me up in there. Hmm me too. That was fucking me up in there. I'm not gonna some hollow shit Dog in my section where I was at parks Parks was like two rows in front of us. But where we was at, me and Ian and Cory and E, the three white girls in the back of us, when SZA came on,
Starting point is 00:31:57 they was jumping up word for word, knew every one of those songs, and when Kendrick came up, they would sit down. That's not their bag. Right. And then I would stand up up and we did that back and forth I think that was intentional agreed I hate it and I hate that to your energy point that was my that was my tape that was my beef about the GNX album it's the same thing high energy low every song went like this like I think there's a they intentionally are shaping this the, the album, the tour, so that it is a roller coaster. Because like I said, you finish Not Like Us, and then you come back with Luther and Gloria.
Starting point is 00:32:34 I'm not there for the roller coaster. I'm not there for that. That's how you strip. And I'm a huge SZA fan as well. But if I come out to see one of you motherfuckers, that's the energy that, I don't out to see one of you motherfuckers, that's the energy that I don't wanna have to sit down, gather myself, go get a drink, go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Like, oh my lord, they was killing me with that shit. That's where I fucked up. I wish I would've sat down. I stood for three hours, dog. I was handicapped by the time that shit was over. I stood. I was sitting right on a wet seat, asshole, squishy. That's what I did.
Starting point is 00:33:04 I didn't give a fuck. I sat down. Squishy ass nigga. I stood. I was sitting right on a wet seat, ass hole, squishy. That's what I did. I didn't give a fuck. I sat down. Squishy ass nigga. I stood. I was in the fucking riser. You was in VIP. You can say it, you was in VIP. What?
Starting point is 00:33:12 It's the riser. Was that VIP? He was a celebrity VIP, yes. But I told you, I said you would hate it here. Yeah. You would hate it. I was thinking about going over there because wave, shout out to wave.
Starting point is 00:33:20 And then Mark was in the acting poor. I'm sorry, Bark. Mark? And then Mark was in the acting poor, I'm sorry, Mark. And then Mark was in the acting poor, Mark's trying to get Mark arrested. He really said it. Well, we were in like the- He was looking out.
Starting point is 00:33:32 We were clearly in like the comp area. No, no, that ain't trying to get comped. I did not get comped. Oh, salute. We were in the comp area. There were some extra seats there, so I figured Mark and his wife could go over and hang out, We were in the cockpit. There were some extra seats there so I figured Mark and his wife could come over and hang out and then if the people show up then you know.
Starting point is 00:33:51 That's always awkward though. I thought I had, we bought good seats but then the way the stage was it was like a back part of the stage and a front part of the stage and when we got there he was still in the back part of the stage so I was like yo we far as shit. I didn't pay all this money for it to be that far but then when he came around he was writing, we were like basically front row for the front of the stage but I didn't know that so I was like, yo, we far as shit. I didn't pay all this money for it to be that far. But then when he came around, he was writing. We were like basically front row for the front of the stage, but I didn't know that. So I was texting him like, yo, we gotta go somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:34:10 My wife was complaining, I don't care. Well now, my problem was when we got there, I thought I was somebody. I mean, we in New Jersey, mad love from the people in the crowd. It's met life So hey, hey go drive over to the private to the private parking lot over there So where we normally park for summer jam, man. So yeah, we don't but we don't have a
Starting point is 00:34:41 couple up over there Get the fuck out there. Hey, I rolled the window down. I said, so send him over to my side. Hey, hey, hey. Go button, make him a pod. I said, so send him over to my side. I rolled up in there. Tee.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Nigga, Sergey don't watch the pod, my man. Hey, look. He didn't watch it. He didn't give a fuck. Look, I'm looking right at the light. It's right there. I'm throwing one to the guy. Headed right over there. She said, no, you're not. She said, do you have a pass?
Starting point is 00:35:17 I said, no. She said, okay, so let me see your ticket. Okay, so you're going to walk mad far, mad far and then that'll get you where you gotta go. So I cool. We had a good move We had a concert let me just get out in the rain and walk man far. So me Cory Imani Erickson Walk what you did is we were paid. No, you can't pay You can't pay I paid and got pretty good parking. No, no, no, you can't pay in that private parking lot that we talking about. And the handicap is not going to get you in this parking lot
Starting point is 00:35:51 that we talking about. Listen, the handicap get you hours right there. Stuck my boot up and I went, ma'am, it's 500. Write that boot for you, too. The neighborhood directed you to Hackensack Hospital or wherever people with that boot on should be at. You wasn't getting there. But anyways, we get out and we walk.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I don't mind walking, it ain't no big deal, we walk. Run in the rain, ah, hiking it, hiking it, hiking it. Every door we tried to get in, they was like, nah, you gotta keep walking further. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so we keep walking further. Man, we went to security guards like, yo, where do we go for this?
Starting point is 00:36:26 That nigga said. The other side of the city. Oh, God damn. That long zigzaggy line with all of the white people. Man, we look, that line was ridiculous. Y'all got a little one. I said, oh shit, was you a gym bro? None of these guys.
Starting point is 00:36:37 None of them. I walked right in. I walked right in. Yo, why you ain't start? Pump, pump, pump, pump. They said, come on, buy this guy. Well, that doesn't always solve things, man, I woulda thought it did.
Starting point is 00:36:47 But when we saw the line, that's when I made a phone call, and we were able to be escorted with the proper, treated like who the fuck we are and how we're supposed to be, appreciate you, thank you, that was great. What's my other beef about this show? I got a few beefs about this show.
Starting point is 00:37:03 How much of it did you see? Bad experiences Yeah it was Whoa whoa whoa whoa I don't know where you can ever No no I'm just saying like before you got there all that shit y'all went through The seats were amazing too We was right there
Starting point is 00:37:12 We can walk We can walk Shit But anyway once we got in there we was good the seats were great The seats were amazing The wristbands alleviated all of those workers because there was a lot of people working it was a lot of security there A lot of security It was a lot of security
Starting point is 00:37:24 The horses, the horse cops All that shit all of those workers, because there was a lot of people working, there was a lot of security there. Yeah, there was. There was a lot of security. The horses, the horse cops, all that shit. They had the dudes out there with the AR-15s on them. Yeah, you know, there was a lot of security. Security that day looked like that meeting they had before, this morning, strict instructions. We not playing with none of y'all. And I totally understand that with stars as big as Kendrick and SZA. Soon as they got on stage, they threw them in the SUVs,
Starting point is 00:37:46 police escort, straight out. My second beef, internet, we could put the who sold out and who didn't sell out seats debate to rest. Yeah, yeah. That one is not important. Trust me It's not it's it's with the amount of people that came out to see them people. Yeah, two nights around fact Back to back nights and the mall, huh? And the mall and the mall pop up
Starting point is 00:38:17 The mall pop up and shut the whole all four three or four floors Shut down. I'm just saying it's a lot 50,000 people three or four floors shut down. I'm just saying, 50,000 people, 55,000 people is a lot of people for y'all to talk about, the 2,000 people that. Nigga, 45,000, it don't matter. If you got 48,000 people in a 60,000 people venue, my nigga, shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Especially two nights in a row. That was a stadium that was packed and everybody's singing word for word. I don't care what you're talking about. And that's what it looked like, it was crazy. It wasn't a lot of empty seats. Little kids in there singing, I was like, oh shit. Which led to what I did.
Starting point is 00:38:49 The security guards were singing. Right, which led to what I did next, which was Pocket Watch. Sure. So now, as I'm watching the show, I'm here looking at the production, I'm counting the dancers. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Yo, shout out to the dancers. They were gorgeous, too. Shout out to the dancers. They were gorgeous too. Shout out to the dancers. They were all of them. I loved Kendrick's because they had a beautiful, there were a lot of beautiful dark skinned dancers too, which I thought was really dope. Yeah, they had a lot of doaches.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Yeah, yes. It was a lot, it was like they had a doachie factory. That's what it looked like. Every dancer looked like doachie. It was dope. That was fire. That was dope. That was fire, looked like. Every dancer looked like Dochi. It was Dochi. That was Dochi. Damn what the fuck was I just talking about? You're talking about the budget. Pocket watch. Oh yeah pocket watch. Yo dog man this little motherfucker these two going back and forth on the stage. Over the stage. Okay now the G-Nexus drinking. Ooh, it's going down. Ooh, it's coming up.
Starting point is 00:39:45 All right, now let's get the dancers coming out. Romp, romp, romp, romp, romp. All right, now we playing a movie. Yo, these niggas are making a killing. Yeah, they're trying to dice and shit. They look like it was hanging from a windshield. They're making an absolute killing up there. And I gotta say, yo, the performance of All the Stars.
Starting point is 00:40:04 That was fire. With the lights and shit. That was fire. That was fire. That was fire. And they're on the ris of All the Stars. That was fire. With the lights and shit. That was fire. That was fire. That was fire. And they were on the risers and shit. That shit was fire. With all the pyro, that might have been my, that euphoria were my highlights.
Starting point is 00:40:13 The pyro was the best part because it got warm for like two seconds. Yeah, because it was a little brick. It was cold. It was a little brick out there. Bitch, brick is not fair. It was cold. It was a little brick out there, yeah. That pyro, that little three seconds.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Ooh, ooh. Yes. They need to turn that on. Workout did, yeah. That pyro, that little three seconds. Ooh, ooh, there we go. Yes. I woulda get it. They need to turn that on. But that was in my pocket watching, because I'm like, it cost to keep cutting that on. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:32 So. It went off quite a few times. Quite a few times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then as I'm watching these niggas go under the stage, over the stage, under the stage, over the stage, I'm like, yo, he's shorter than I thought. I'm like, yo, he's shorter than I thought.
Starting point is 00:40:49 You know how many times I went to take my phone out and tape and lost him? Yo, I'm like, where is this little motherfucking ass? And he got the nerve to be standing in the back sometimes talking about some... No, no, no, when you do the crouch down, like you already can't see him, dog. Yo, dog. He is tinier than I thought. He looks like 5'6", 5'5", 5'6". That's generous.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Nah, he's probably somewhere around there. 5'7", maybe even. That's hilarious. He's not, he's not, respectfully, mob deep short. But that stage was humongous. The stage was swallowing him, pause. Yeah, it was. In my opinion.
Starting point is 00:41:31 It was a big fucking stage. That stage was huge. The big U, it was like a big U or whatever that was. Big circle, however it was. When you're at them far corners, I couldn't find a beat there. And then the whole time as I'm sitting there, I was having a blast.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I'm like, okay, sizz sis on her earthy shit, she on her, you know that vibe. And she'd given me that for about 90 minutes. Cool, I enjoy that. Man, then she came out and started riding a grasshopper. I'm like, okay. There's a lot of bugs. There's a lot of bug energy.
Starting point is 00:42:04 And now I gotta watch the dude grasshoppers behind her. The praying mantis. He had to talk about grasshoppers. I was high so I was enjoying the show. I was like the animal. That's my dog. If you was at that show high, that grasshopper shit was a trip.
Starting point is 00:42:19 I was just about to tell you that you needed some shero shit. No, what? I was loving them motherfuckers. Yo, the nigga next to me was like, dog, if she, if that grasshopper has a spirit, will, and she starts driving that bitch, I'm leaving.
Starting point is 00:42:34 I know she did! She rode that shit like a motorcycle! Yo, SZA has to stop. Nah, it was me. That goes back to the art class shit. But you're not a grasshopper. Get off the street. Yo, if I was a stage handler or somebody responsible for the, oh my lord. So the grasshopper thing was funny.
Starting point is 00:42:50 The dude grasshopper's doing this behind. That was hilarious. What else was hilarious? What else was hilarious, dear, for me? I enjoyed the set. I enjoyed the set. I loved the set. I loved the set. enjoyed the set I love the set I love the set I left I left early now too when he told me when he left I'm looking at the set list like bro you missed he's I know that was towards the end I'm like Joe I must account at about six fifteen records but they also made that show a lot longer
Starting point is 00:43:23 than I think it needed to be agreed Agreed, agreed with that part. They started at 815 on the dot. Yeah. And I wanna shout out all you bitch ass niggas out there that went to shows in other cities and then told me, no, you gotta go for Mustard. You gotta be here for Mustard. So you know what I did?
Starting point is 00:43:40 I showed up and saw Mustard. Mustard ain't do shit. I love him. And they just stood up there and played some Mustard records. I got them songs. I was in the parking. He said, look, I missed Mustard. I showed up and saw muster muster they do shit I was there about sweet for him, you know, we was at the mall Both of y'all was waiting for y'all maddish I mad as shit. I got the babysitter, we left here early, which is a miracle. I drove from Edgewater back to my crib, 45 minute drive,
Starting point is 00:44:11 got dressed, got the babysitter, fed the baby, came out. She's like, I just don't know what I'm gonna wear. I'm like, it's gonna be black outside, it's a stadium and it's cold. It's raining and cold. Yeah, right. I was mad as shit. And then she wanted to stay to the end
Starting point is 00:44:24 because my wife, I love her. She's a wonderful, extraordinary woman who doesn't quite always understand how time works. That's a lot. I can relate. Women don't fuck with women. Women don't care about time. So I was like, all right, baby.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Not like that. I thought it was going to be the last song. So I said, who did? Uber said two minutes. I said, so when the song starts, I'm going to call the Uber, and then we'll walk to the parking lot. She said, well, let's just wait for one more song. Then Luther came on.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I was like, everybody's going to leave when Luther comes on. She said, well, let's just see. Then she heard another song. I was like, no, we out. So now that two minutes turned to 82 minutes. I'm not exaggerating. Oh my God. So I said, she said,
Starting point is 00:44:58 Mark, didn't you say Joe came with some friends? Let's just ride back with Joe. I said, I promise you, Joe Button is not in the stadium right now. This is a better chance that Joe is home right now. That is a fact. You know the crazy part? I stayed to the absolute end, I was, and drove.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Walked out, I was in my house within 30 minutes. Same, same. I should have drove. I got super lucky when I came in. There was a long ass line for the parking. They kept trying to keep it moving. And I just saw Homeboy like, yo, yo, can I get in here?
Starting point is 00:45:25 He's like, you sure can. Pull right in there, like one of the first lots, right when you pull in the little shit. They gave me an email and was like, yo, if you, to get passage, go to this window. So park here. So I'm like, all right, back. I drove all the way around until I found that parking lot. Hung my joint up there and I was. I know that my dumbass took Uber. The Uber lot was like, it was the worst choice
Starting point is 00:45:45 a human being could ever make. I'm so bad at that. So instead of being out there first, I'm standing out there last in Gen Pop, no disrespect, by having to talk to every black person who walked by on a week where more black people saw me probably than they had in a couple years. It was so, I eventually just went in the bathroom and waited.
Starting point is 00:46:04 In the edge head? In the stall? I eventually just went to the bathroom and waited. In the head's head? In the stall. I was just in the stall. It's going to sound like a shot it's not. With all due respect Mark. Do you know how to be hot? I don't like to be. I like to stay out the way. Bullshit. Carry on. Thank you Mark.
Starting point is 00:46:22 No, no. I'm talking bullshit. Deadass. I just wanted to go to the show, show sneak out get in the car and go home without talking to anybody. Mark. If that was your plan then at no point should you have been in the uber section of MetLife. Do you know that the Joe Button podcast is pretty popular in New Jersey? I get that. That's why I wanted to leave. Salute for sure. Y'all should be sitting there. That's my beef with the rest of the people. They just have no idea.
Starting point is 00:46:49 They just be like, ah, listen, who been sectioning me and my wife? Y'all should tell your wife. Next time you see my wife, tell her this. This is wedding. This is why I wanted to leave with Not Like Us. So that everybody was, whenever I was still in the stadium, so that I wouldn't have to pass anybody. We had left when I wanted to leave, I wouldn't have seen anybody.
Starting point is 00:47:04 But by the time we left, everybody was walking out and then I got stuck. Dog, I was looking around that stadium, seeing all those people in the lights with their phones out and all I could think to myself was, one, this is beautiful. Mm-hmm. And outside, it was a beautiful night.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Like, it was a nice night. The weather held up. Yeah, yeah, didn't rain, didn't rain on me. Cold as a bitch, but cold as. And two, I just couldn't imagine being on Route 3, leaving at the same time as all these people. So I'm like, yo, dog, if he just would play like that, I could be on my way.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And as soon as I sat down at around 950, da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da. White bitch just sat down, I stood up. Da da da da da da da da da. Da da da da da da da da. Yeah. You got your joint cause euphoria was early. You wanted that.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Euphoria was early. Cause you was like, I need euphoria. Yo, if I wasn't there with these niggas, I really could have left in 20 minutes. You said, you was like, yo, long as I get euphoria, I'm like, Joe, that's dumb. I could have left in 20 minutes. I'm, you was like, yo, long as I get euphoria, I'm like, Joe, that's dumb. I could have left in 20 minutes. I'm cool.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Yo, cause what I noticed too, and I shouldn't say this, but I'm going to say it, like they in tour mode now. So I'm looking at Kendrick being in tour mode too. Like preserve some energy, just walk a little differently. Like it wasn't pop out energy. Like not at all. Not at all. some energy, just walk a little differently.
Starting point is 00:48:25 It wasn't pop out energy. Not at all. Not at all. Not at all. And I feel them because just being a spectator, I was exhausted. So I can't imagine being up there. And you just did the pop up. I know this tour life.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Not just that different, the pop up stage, even though it was a big stage, it didn't have that whole path. It was not. You walk all the way over there to come out of it both it was not even close yeah that was an arena show this is a stadium and it is very fucking different I was a big-ass like over to the part where you was that yeah you got another show and another show last night yeah like that shit you gotta save your voice like at some point I wasn't even mad at when sizzle wasn't singing and it was a the TV track. I'm like, yeah
Starting point is 00:49:09 Yeah, she was doing all types of shit I was that again back to my impress impressive miss with her like she was like doing some fucking yoga kind of Stretching out laying back and still singing and then she went out to a day at after party When like that went off, I think DNA come on. I was like, we will treat. Encore for me. And then after DNA, we walked to the fucking back where our little bands, cause we had the worker band. We walked to the back,
Starting point is 00:49:42 but by now the show was in effect, so they're acting funny. Yes. They're like, you can't go back this way without an escort. I said, all right, escort us. Like, no, you're not going to. Listen, we got these bands that say we can go wherever the fuck we want, and I'm famous, and I'm not walking that way.
Starting point is 00:49:59 So you either go to escort us, or I don't know, but I'm going that way. I got to escort you guys. I know you will. We got the fuck out of't know, but I'm going that way. It's like I'll escort you guys. I know you will. You got the fuck out of this, so pulled up in a timely fashion. I felt like Ice Cube today was a good day. That's how I felt when I was in it.
Starting point is 00:50:13 So pulled up in a timely fashion, we hopped on a three, it wasn't a car inside. That was like that Ice Cube triple double. Nigga, I was home in a heartbeat. I think that everybody must've took the Ubers because I had no problem with traffic. Everybody was in the Uber lot. And I stayed to the end, bro. Like, I was home in a heartbeat. I think that everybody must've took the Ubers because I had no problem with traffic. Everybody was in the Uber. And I stayed to the end, bro.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Like, I'm like. Me too. Well, I walked out of Gloria. And I was like, yo, there's no traffic. Bet. And we was home. Also, I mean, I gotta say, during the Mustard set, shout out to the white, young, male, and female TikTokers I saw that was dancing to all the Mustard songs
Starting point is 00:50:48 and self editing nigger out of the song. That shit take concentration. It was a few times I would have slipped up. No, that white nigger was doing a dance to my nigger and didn't do nigger. I was like, oh shit, he killing that shit. So shout out to the white TikTok, he self edited, nigga, y'all was killing that shit.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Yeah, and I don't have nothing else to say about it. I had a great time. Shout out to Kendrick. Gracious. I'm glad I got to do both the pop up experience or pop out experience and the stadium tour experience. Yeah, I mean. But I've seen that pop up show so many times.
Starting point is 00:51:26 I watched that show. I didn't even regularize it. I got the fire. I just watched it every now and then. It is. It was amazing. That one in the Paris show. That shit, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:35 That shit was different. The Paris show that he did for the Mr. Morale. That shit was crazy. They were both scissor fire in different ways. The scissor thing I love because my wife is a huge SZA fan. She loves Kendrick too, but like, it was a great date show. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:50 And had it been 10 degrees warmer out, it would have been a greater date show. And that's why I like them doing the back and forth. Because like I said, let's say SZA comes out first, does her records. The women that were really just there for her, they bored now. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:06 So it gave everybody, it kept everybody engaged all show. They did like six, seven joints, then a joint together and then the other person takes over. Well that's the thing too, is I'm a huge Scissor fan, but I was thinking during the Scissor Breaks, well I'll go to the bathroom, I'll go get a drink, whatever, whatever, but don't want to leave the wife here in the crowd alone and.
Starting point is 00:52:24 You're a better husband than me. I was in that chicken finger line the whole fucking season. It was good too. It was cold. All they do is be hot. I'll do better next time. Mel! Yes?
Starting point is 00:52:37 You didn't make the show. I didn't. No, I went to go see Othello on Broadway. I see you got the merch. Is that merch or is that like a gift from Othello himself? It's both actually. It was merch. From Othello himself. It's both, actually. It was both.
Starting point is 00:52:49 So, yeah, so Denzel's security got me and my girlfriend into the balcony seats. This. Just put them on. Put them on. Let's go, man. Yeah. So it was a really lovely experience.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Go champ. I bet. Yeah. So that was my third time seeing Denzel on Broadway. First time was Julius Caesar. Second was Fences. And then now this. How did it compare?
Starting point is 00:53:17 Yeah, how was it? Well, the thing that I didn't realize, and it's a, is that. I'm sorry, but I don't mean to step on this, but I just have a question. Before we get to the review of the performance. Yeah, yeah. So Denzel's security. Start us there, how you got to the theater,
Starting point is 00:53:38 how you got the tickets and how you ended up in the special booth. Well, I was with my girlfriend, Kelly. We don't give a fuck about Kelly. Shout out Kelly. And you know Kelly. Oh and I love Kelly. Yes exactly. You know fucking Kelly. Exactly. Tatiana Kelly. Kelly! Exactly. You know who Kelly the same band. That's the funniest thing. That's the funniest thing. That's the funniest thing. That's the funniest thing. That was fucking fast. You don't know who Kelly is.
Starting point is 00:54:07 No, no, I know who Kelly is. So Kelly's now at Brooklyn Chop House. Brooklyn Chop House. Exactly. And so when the play came to Broadway, they had kind of like a night for them, the entire cast and crew, et cetera, at Brooklyn Chop House. Can I interrupt you really quickly?
Starting point is 00:54:24 Go ahead. We need to redo the industry list. Oh, et cetera, at Brooklyn Chop House. Can I interrupt you really quickly? Go ahead. We need to redo the industry list. Oh yeah. On air. We haven't done that in a long time. We haven't done that in ages, but we should get a clear understanding with this crew. Mel is number one. Mel is number one.
Starting point is 00:54:38 For sure. Joe is number two. Right. What does this mean? I don't know what that is. The industry list. It's a throwback. Who's the most industry? Industry meaning like mixie amongst people
Starting point is 00:54:51 in the entertainment industry. Me? Yeah. And it's not even close. You said Ish. I'm giving it to Ish. What? What?
Starting point is 00:54:59 I'm last. No, you ain't last. You're not last, but. No, he might be last. I'm last. You might be last. But you ain't now. Yeah, you are last he might be last. I'm last. You might be last. I'm last. But you ain't now. Yeah, you are last.
Starting point is 00:55:07 You're right. I'm last. I had you second to last, but. Yeah, I would be last. Who would be? I'm talking about now. He is Mr. Outside Outside. Huh?
Starting point is 00:55:16 No, no, no. On every podcast. That's not what we're talking about. That's not what industry is. Liberty is crazy. So it doesn't, so like the slow-mo walk with Simba. Yeah, that's why he's not last. That was two years ago. That was one thing, though. Yeah, don't count that hard. mo walk with Simba and yeah, that's why he's not last that was two
Starting point is 00:55:25 Yeah, one thing though. Yeah, don't count that. I can't say simple few times. We met the returns I was a teacher. So but anyway, I just I just want to know Mel is absolutely number one. Yes, okay. All right, well to flip three Ice for ice is three Me and ish time for less that I for me and it's time for less that's why I had you second to last to the him but we got to get to that anyway back to number one okay so anyways they hosted the the cast and crew when the plate yet Brooklyn times when first half first happened so Kelly meets Sal coolest dude on the planet and basically that was
Starting point is 00:56:04 that was how we we got into the balcony seats. He just reserved them for us. It was lovely, it was great. It was fan-fucking-tastic. Wonderful show. Full House, like, I guess the play started in February, maybe March, and it has been like- At the end, end of February, I think.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Yeah, end of February, and it's going to like June 8th or something like that, Full House, every single night, every single performance. I was pocket watching trying to figure out how much did Denzel make off of this. Like I'm thinking his maybe like 20 mil is his price tag. I'm thinking. I have no idea. I'm thinking that that's- We don't know how much he made but-
Starting point is 00:56:40 I was trying to like you know- I'm sure he got some back-end money. Yeah, we sure, we sure. Oh, no, he definitely got you try to divert It's not enough. I call that what he made. So the play was really great What I didn't know is that they were going to set it in modern time So I thought that they were gonna come out with like, you know the road Yeah, so not only is it set in modern times, but it's but it's Shakespearean language
Starting point is 00:57:00 And it's also like the modern kind of gesticulation like you know I'm saying like Romeo and Juliet the movie sort of But kind of sort of yeah, yeah, and then they make some alterations as well towards the end when all the you know all the catastrophic shit happens But Jake Gyllenhaal was fucking incredible Denzel was I mean he's Denzel did you get to see him and talk to him after? I did not. Okay. I did not. I would like to go see Othello.
Starting point is 00:57:28 I'm gonna try and see him before you. Did you drive to him? I'm gonna get it. No, I did not try to, I did not try. I didn't want to get to him. This is the last time. This is the last time you all saw each other at the spot. At the spot, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Yeah, no, that was cool. Yeah, got it. Don't push it. You sure you got the hook up, let me know. I'm not, but you still got it, nigga. The security guard remember you? Yeah, it was cool. Yeah, got it. Don't push it. You should have got the hook up. I'm not. But you still got it. The security guard remembers you.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Yeah, it was fun. And then. Oh, look how you've glowed up. And then we went back over to Brooklyn Chop House. Shout out to Don Poo. And saw Jason Tatum in there. Okay. He was in the back.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I was like, don't you have a game tomorrow? Oh, okay. I don't know. I'm in business. Did you talk to him at all? Yeah. So, you don't give a fuck, right? You don't even care no more. What do you mean? Talk to him.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Before you started talking, did you come up to him or did he come up to you? I was brought over to his table. So you went up to you? I was brought over to his table. So you went up to him? I was brought over to his table. Watch your fucking mouth. By force? What do you mean? You walked over.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Stop. Please. She was brought to his table. They do that in there. They do that. They tell you who's there and they bring you to the table. They do that a lot of times with me. She's not wrong.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Yo, this person's over there. I'm going to bring you over there. As a matter of fact, I did not want to go over, because I was like, I do not want to interrupt this man and his meal. What the fuck? You know what I mean? It's something that they do there.
Starting point is 00:58:52 How did they convince you? It was Don told, come Melissa. And I was like, all right. You're hilarious. Did you sit at the table with her? You're hilarious. No you sit at the table there? You're hilarious. No, I did not. What?
Starting point is 00:59:11 You sat at the table. I did not sit at the fucking table. Have some chicken rye rice. She started buttering bread and shit. Yes. Now, come on. Oh, shit, that looks good. That's a little far, man.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Well, it's funny you mention it, because I was going to bring up the text that you put in our podcast group chat. Don't you dare. Mm-hmm. Ooh, don't ever get over you until I find the time you end you. Hey, yo, cut that shit off.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Oh, cut off, cut off. Yeah. Ooh. All you got to do is show up to a game, and that shit off. Oh, cut off, cut off. Yeah. Ooh. All you got to do is show up to a game and they'll win. Isn't that the track record? Every time he shows up to a game and it's loose? Don't try to reverse it. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Read what she wrote. That is fact. Read what she wrote. Eh, eh, eh, eh. Don't fucking read. You was joking crazy. Don't fucking read that text. So you wrote this in the Zoom chat
Starting point is 01:00:03 and then somehow ended up at his table. She probably wrote that from his table. Yeah, she did. Oh yeah. Yeah. Look at the time, check the time. That's what happened, isn't it? I looked, see.
Starting point is 01:00:16 She said, I, get it, Joe, you know what I mean? Number one, that's number one on the list right there. Right. No, and. You gave his list. There's a little one on the list right there. Right. No. I read, maybe a little afterwards. That was 11 10 where she texted us. Yeah, that was 11 10 on PM.
Starting point is 01:00:39 I gotta do the science. I guarantee you that shit was real. No, no, no, the first one was 11 o'clock p.m. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Oh yeah, you're right. So the theater's right next to Brooklyn Chop House, so I didn't really, I didn't have to walk far. No, you're at the theater. As soon as the performance was over.
Starting point is 01:00:56 No, you're at the theater. That's what we're saying. Girl, you kidding? One patron. So anyways. Take one for the team. One patron. Yep, mm-hmm. So anyways. Take one for the team. Fucking Celtics won, and then he came back
Starting point is 01:01:09 and had 40 before this fucking tragic injury. Well, I don't know, delayed reaction? Yep. To the... Patriot for sure. Absolutely. 100%. Thank you, I mean, I did my best.
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Starting point is 01:02:53 You get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup. So good luck to all participants out there. And run your game. And now we are back. The Puff trial started the other day. It's going to be quite a spring summer. Yeah, yeah. Day one didn't go well for Puff
Starting point is 01:03:19 from what the the legal experts are saying. Prosecution laid out an argument. I don't know if it's going to work or not. Well, the legal non experts are saying. Prosecution laid out an argument. I don't know if it's gonna work or not. Well, the legal non-experts are saying he had a great first day. Yeah. The legal non-experts are saying
Starting point is 01:03:31 that he absolutely smoked it and his team of attorneys put on a masterclass. Yeah, that's the sentiment I got there. That's what I've been hearing from a lot of the cultural critics, a lot of the observers, and then a lot of legal experts are saying that they're setting the trap for his team. Okay. Again, it'll be interesting to see which direction it goes in, but
Starting point is 01:03:50 to me, Puff has a pretty... he has an argument that will be legible to a juror, which is I'm a wild dude. I like freaky shit. People willingly did the freaky shit. I do fucked up things, but I never did the things they charged me with. To me, that's a winnable case. But the legal experts are saying the prosecution has a few things in the tuck, particularly the male escort who testified. That is gonna be a harder thing to defeat.
Starting point is 01:04:17 And then the other thing is with Cassie's testimony, even though Cassie is saying she willfully did some of these things, she's also saying she felt scared that she couldn't. And so the domestic violence angle is gonna be a thing that may stay in the juror's head, even if it doesn't make legal sense to some people.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Jurors aren't always persuaded by the law, by the facts of the case, sometimes they're persuaded by this monster. If you believe Puff is a monster, then you may believe other things. And unfortunately, sometimes juries convict you on the kind of person you are, not on the chart yeah the letter absolutely I would I would I'm totally with that if you present anything having to do with the actual
Starting point is 01:04:54 charges and I just didn't hear that a day one not saying they don't have it in the tuck but I didn't see or read anything directly related to sex trafficking. They did like a summarization as to the key takeaways of day one. So I'll just read the headlines. OK, so the prosecution highlights the two main accusers, which was Cassie. Also, a woman identified as Jane, according to the assistant US attorney. And basically, it's just talking about the coercion of the freak-offs and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 01:05:28 The defense questions the accuser's motives, which is another key takeaway, which is a typical thing that they would do. In addition to that, both sides agree that Combs committed domestic violence. There's no way that they could get away with, you know, acting like it didn't happen. The video in question is also admissible as a piece of evidence, as are the freak-off videos. I think
Starting point is 01:05:54 that there's some editing that's happening with them, so it's not the entire duration. And the jurors have been instructed to wear headphones when they're watching and listening to it because it's apparently extraordinarily graphic, both visually and audibly. Like I said, the jury will see video of the freak ops. That was established as well. And like I said, the video of the hotel attack is central to the prosecution's case because, like Joe was saying, his character is on trial right now.
Starting point is 01:06:29 That's just the bottom line. His character is on trial and everything that they have heard about this man prior to and during this whole thing is, might actually be what persuades some of the jurors to make their decision. There was the male escort who testified, he said he was paid for sex. He testified that Combs assaulted Ventura twice by way of his witness.
Starting point is 01:06:53 And again, testimony about explicit and graphic descriptions and also Puffy's whole family was there to show support. Which was super interesting. That, I'm going back to the male escort, right? Again, he says he was paid to have sex. If you're a juror, you may say, all right, well, I was paid to have sex. He was paid to have sex.
Starting point is 01:07:15 That's fine. Whether I like it, agree with it, or not, that's not illegal. The problem is that- Well, I think it is illegal. I'm sorry. It doesn't prove that he broke the other laws. Absolutely. The sex stuff is illegal. But it doesn't prove that he broke the other laws. Right, absolutely. The sex stuff is illegal, but it doesn't mean that it was forced coercion.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Right. And honestly, if the worst thing that he caught was a prostitution charge, he'd probably be very happy with that outcome. The problem is, one of the things that the escort is testifying to and already testified to was that he witnessed a lot of abuse with Cassie. So if Cassie's saying, I was scared not to do this, I was forced into this, and you have a male escort saying yeah I watched her be forced into some of the stuff that we did, that's where the jury is gonna have to have that that's what
Starting point is 01:07:55 the jury's gonna have to make some decisions about whether they trust Puffy's account or they trust Cassie's account etc. Yeah that's where it's gonna get murky for him. Yeah well I mean like they're talking the whole the overarching theme here is coercion and consent, you know? And so with the male escort saying that she paid for everything, whatever, that doesn't necessarily mean that she wasn't coerced.
Starting point is 01:08:18 That doesn't necessarily mean that his reach is not that far, the perception of his reach is not that far. You know what I mean? That she wouldn't do his bidding for him out of fear. But it also, it also doesn't prove that she wasn't doing that on her own. Like they have to, like you said, coercion is basically what's trying to be proven here.
Starting point is 01:08:41 That's not proven. He's saying she paid for it and they're just trying to allude to the fact that Puff did whatever. This is, from what I read day one, I don't see it yet. Well, again, remember what the charges are, right? There's five criminal counts. Racketeering, sex trafficking by force, fraud or coercion, and transportation to engage in prostitution Mm-hmm. It sounds like just by observation two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution seems like that's not gonna be that hard to prove Right, right, right Two counts of sex trafficking by force. That's a little bit. That's a little bit tougher Mm-hmm
Starting point is 01:09:17 The Rico one is probably gonna be the hardest one. Right, but but sex trafficking by force fraud or coercion becomes It comes down to whether you believe Cassie. Cassie, you have an eyewitness saying this was done to me. You also have evidence that she was abused. Again, a person could read this and say, hey, maybe this is a revenge prosecution. Someone could hear this and say, why should we not believe Cassie?
Starting point is 01:09:40 She said it was a video kind of. That's what I'm saying. So all the video evidence, all that stuff could make someone have strong feelings as people do About puff whether or not you agree with the charges or not And so to me alive is gonna come down who you believe Cassie or diddy well puff pardon me puff defense opened with this 50 million reasons not to believe Cassie But this is the part I'm confused about she's signed a, I mean they reached a civil settlement already.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Or whatever that number was. Whatever the number is, right. I'm just saying like they signed, she got paid. If the idea is this is a cash grab, she already got paid before the feds intervened. So if this was a cash grab, she didn't need this case to get cash. Who said it was a cash grab?
Starting point is 01:10:21 That's what he just said, 50 million reasons. Like saying that this is... That 50 million reasons don't have to be cash related. I mean, that's usually an expression to refer to somebody getting... It could be vengeful, it could be revenge, it could be a bunch of other reasons or incentives for her to, yo nigga, you ruined my life.
Starting point is 01:10:37 You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, you ruined my life. So I could be vengeful, I could be trying to pay you back. Which again goes back to the who do you believe, right? I think her already having a civil settlement makes her more believable, not less to people. Because usually the argument is they're doing this to set up for the civil suit, they're doing this to get paid.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Listen, I don't have a horse in this race, Lord knows I've covered this longer than I would like to. But even with the civil settlement mark, there were a lot of people on the flip side of that. There were a lot of people on the side of, I'm not gonna say it. I get what you're saying. I'm not gonna say it.
Starting point is 01:11:19 I totally get your point though, right? I'm not even making a case about who's right or wrong right now. I'm just making odds about how the jury's gonna read this, that's all I'm saying. And I'm just saying typically, jurors are skeptical of people when they think they're doing a criminal case to set up to get paid later.
Starting point is 01:11:35 And I'm saying since she's already- And you took that part out already. And I'm saying since she's been paid, I think that works in the prosecution's favor. But if you are a person that believes, look Cassie was along for the ride the whole time, she made these choices herself from day one, which some people, observers do believe, if you're one of those people in a jury, then none of this is going to be persuasive to you.
Starting point is 01:11:54 So it's going to come down to just whose credibility you believe ultimately. But I do think if you keep showing orgies and sex tapes and male escorts and abuse videos, that's going to do something to the jury. It It's gonna inspire strong feelings one way or the other. She's testifying, kind of as we're recording this, and she's already let them know, like he moved me closer to him. He would send security and assistance if he can't find me. So the stage is being set to, I'm under his control.
Starting point is 01:12:22 That he wasn't just enabling, he was enforcing. So then what if they pose a question that how was she able to find, if he was so controlling, how was she able to get with her current husband? I mean, people eventually do leave, not all the time, but people often do eventually leave, whether it's a- I'm just saying they pose that question. I think that's because I found the strength to leave
Starting point is 01:12:45 Yeah It's tough because there's no way to represent the opposite side of what Mark and Mel are saying without sounding the way Yeah, I agree You got to sound the way So is There's no way to do it but That's what I'm trying to know It's just about like I said
Starting point is 01:12:58 It's a defense What? It, it, it, it, I think it's gonna come and boil down to the Whoever they pick for the jury is gonna be really really really really pivotal like if you pick some some people that are Somewhat cynical Yep, that that shit going fly. I heard I heard They have a bunch of videos. I heard some of those videos are very, very, very telling.
Starting point is 01:13:26 I even heard their videos with Puff is not there and is not present. So if that's the case, it's like, you know what I mean? Like it's going to be, it's going to be some shit. But she can also say that he was watching the cameras the entire time and it was an instruction for her to follow. And then he got off of watching the footage later. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:13:47 There's a lot of arguments both ways. Yeah. And finally, I think some of it's just a philosophical question about how you see control. Yeah. Right. Because at some level you could call anything control. Yeah, I'm about to say, then his sheer celebrity would be control.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Yeah. And this is gonna be, this is why I think the Diddy's defense has more ground than people may have thought six months ago or a year ago because I think people thought that the videos would be more smoking gun. The videos are smoking gun about sex happening.
Starting point is 01:14:18 The videos are smoking gun about prostitution, the escort. And the videos are smoking gun about physical abuse. Yes. When you start talking about physical abuse versus yo, I'm flying people in to conduct sexual acts, I'm sex quote unquote trafficking, and all of that other stuff, I think those things become harder to prove.
Starting point is 01:14:37 I think yo, we know he was whipping her ass. Like before the tape, in all honesty, people know that Puff was beating his girl's ass before the tape, in all honesty, people know that Puff was beating his girls ass before the tape even surfaced. But again, when you start accusing somebody of running a criminal organization, an enterprise, that's gonna be something that's harder to prove than me beating yo ass.
Starting point is 01:14:57 And again, that's where it's gonna get, it's really gonna come down to me, to what the jury, how the, like you said, the jury's disposition toward these people, how they see people, how they see celebrity, how they see force, how they see relationships. This is gonna, I think by the end of this trial, there's gonna be a lot of people mad at each other
Starting point is 01:15:12 and fighting with each other. Not about, it's not like O.J. what, like who, you know, was he really in the woods? It's gonna be like, can a person be in the- Your morality and integrity gonna be on trial. All of it is, right? That's true. I mean, if you're in a relationship with a celebrity and you say, well, I did these things
Starting point is 01:15:26 because I felt forced to, I felt coerced to, the physical abuse is one kind of coercion, but financial coercion, and then fraud, all these things are things that are a lot more subjective and debatable to a lot of people. We laugh and joke up here all the time about what y'all be saying? The financial abuse.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Bro, if that's the case, it creates a really great area for, yo, this house mom sits at home. Right. This man makes all the money. So on the days that he might want to come home and get some coochie and she ain't really up for it. Like that's, I'm oversimplifying it. Of course, I'm not saying that they're parallels, but I'm just saying like that.
Starting point is 01:16:04 That's a good example. That opens the door to that. And that's why the prosecution is going to focus on the violence. They're going to make it seem like it wasn't just this abstract thing. It was a lot of, she was literally scared for her life. And I'm not saying she was, and I personally happen to believe Cassie, but I understand that this is not an open and shut case by any stretch. If you'd asked me a year ago,
Starting point is 01:16:25 I would have said, oh, they got him. But when I look at the actual charges and what the actual evidence is, this is a lot messier, anyway. Well, she's on the stand right now talking about the abuse that she suffered. And that is the focus of her testimony right now. Right, we'll see what happens for me.
Starting point is 01:16:40 See, that leaves me to believe that they don't have the long as the traffic in case They're promising to have more that's what's saying and their opening argument They suggested that they have some footage that is more smoking smoking good And that does that don't work on me, but now hold up a second that that don't work on me because I've heard that For months I've heard that for months and months and months and I've seen I've seen nothing be brought to the table besides things that were immaterial.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Like, you telling me about the baby oil. Like, you telling me about all of this shit that just don't really matter, one. And two, even with the thug case, where the public, the court of public opinion maybe thought that he was outta here. But once we get into how these celebrities are being handled, how the evidence is being handled,
Starting point is 01:17:30 how there seems to be a rush to judge me. Prosecute. Yeah, a rush to prosecute. It just seemed like there's some other celebrity shit that goes on that helps prosecutors drop the ball in terms of how evidence is presented. So, I mean, it's been too many months for me with this puff shit to not hear more than the horrible shit that we know, which is he's an abuser, everything that
Starting point is 01:17:54 his lawyer is saying, Hey, he's a piece of shit. He's horrible. However, he didn't do this, which is the defense is arguing, but moving on from puff for a second, you said something that I think is really interesting about the third case, because there's a parallel there around the Rico. The Rico is used way too often these days. Sounds like it.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Yeah, like that shit don't. And when you ever seen a one person Rico? Right. And well, in argument, it wouldn't be, the argument is that he's using the label and all of the things to do this stuff. I've never seen a Rico with no co-defendants. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 01:18:27 That was the point of the Rico. That's a Rico. You run into criminal enterprise, he starts talking to them. He running it by himself? He don't have no code? He's saying with his business, he's utilizing his business
Starting point is 01:18:37 and the people that work for him to. They get charged. They can get charged. You got it. You can, right? But obviously he was the only person they wanted to get. But the RICO is being used now. Like, for example, in the Atlanta teacher scandal,
Starting point is 01:18:50 when the teachers were allegedly cheating on standardized tests, in Atlanta, there were 14 or 16 of them, they didn't just arrest the teachers for corruption or criminal theft. They charged them with the RICO. Middle school teachers and high school teachers for allegedly cheating, erasing student answers on a standardized test.
Starting point is 01:19:10 It was intended for the crime families. It was intended to stop low level people from taking the hit for the bosses. And now they're using it against anybody who owns a business, anybody who's part of an organization. And again, let's assume Diddy is 100% guilty. I'm not convinced Rico was the right charge. Let's assume Thug had been, I still don't think,
Starting point is 01:19:30 in any of these cases, the Rico can't be used like this because it's often overused against people who can't defend themselves. Well, in the Thug case, the Rico kind of made sense because again, we rounded up everybody because now, and that was Rico, that was the state. And Georgia's one,. Georgia is the state that uses the Rico, Georgia also used it against the teachers. It used to be a federal thing now in Georgia and I think 78 or 79 started using the Rico statewide for everybody. I concede the point. Yeah, I see
Starting point is 01:19:55 what you're saying about that. No, because in the start case it was applicable. That's why they kept trying to tie him to the blood. That makes sense. You get what I'm saying? Okay, that makes sense then. I'm wrong. So it seems like that's a good example of it. Yeah. Teachers are a bad example of it. Sounds like Puff isn't a good example of it. You get even if you did everything. Not for nothing, even with the teacher thing, I get it, they're not a gang,
Starting point is 01:20:13 but if I'm trying to- It's a group of them. It's a group. And I'm trying to get whoever is at the top, I can charge the Rico here because now I can convict all of you all at the same time. I'm gonna squeeze all of y'all together. So somebody's gonna talk and roll on the other person. We roll uphill.
Starting point is 01:20:25 And that's my issue with it. It's not that I don't think it technically meets the standard, but it's being overused beyond its original intent. Got it. Because now you're giving people who should be getting five years, 30 years under RICO statutes for something that is relatively small. I think that's why they use it.
Starting point is 01:20:40 They use it to intimidate the co-defendants to keep on the person that's higher. Absolutely. They offer you this massive time, 30 years, and then you end up working out a deal to get less of time to, you know, for sure. In the Georgia teacher cases, they got the teachers to roll up on the principal.
Starting point is 01:20:57 It wasn't John Gotti, they got Miss Edna. You know what I'm saying? Man, I ain't gonna lie, that's fast for Cassie to hit the stand. Yeah, I just, I think they... I'm not gonna lie to you. Yeah, I think you're playing your big joker. I think you're playing your big joker early.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Unless that's not the big joker. He doesn't get that reference, but yeah. Unless that's not the big joker. You heard your man? No. You still ain't gonna play though. No, I think they shooting... Let's see.
Starting point is 01:21:24 I don't think Cassie's the big joker at all. I do, I'm. No, I think they shooting. Let's see. I don't think Cassie's the big joker at all. I think they got something. That's what I'm thinking too. I think they got something. I think they got something in the tuck that nobody knows about. That's possible.
Starting point is 01:21:32 You think they got like a Mark Fuhrman? I think they- Like that type of big? Yeah. But aren't they supposed to let his- Yeah, I don't think it's an actual secret. His lawyers know? Yeah, they're not gonna like pop up on TV. Oh, I'm sorry, okay. I get what you're saying, but I don't think it's an actual secret. They're not gonna like pop up like on TV.
Starting point is 01:21:45 I get what you're saying, but I think they are going to have, I think the testimony is gonna be more damning than people will expect. So both parties do know who they have. Absolutely. The faster this trial goes, the better for Puff, yes? Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:01 I think if the defense calls all their witnesses by two, three days, I think Puff comes home. This is a two month trial though. I expect it to be a two month trial. We'll see. We'll see. It's definitely at least be a month, but I believe.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Because I think they're trying to convict them in the court of public opinion. Agreed. That's what I see. Clearly. I think he could present the best case in the world. He getting hit with something just because we want you. Clearly, what was it?
Starting point is 01:22:30 Transportation? The prostitution. Yeah, that's a tough one to beat. We're getting you with somebody. It may not be the 10 years worth. Yeah, I believe that. You know, you got off of the shine shit? No, no sir. No sir. I believe that. Yeah, no, you got off of the shine shit? No. No, sir.
Starting point is 01:22:45 No, sir. I believe that. I believe that when you get in front of them people and you get away, if they want you, they will. Especially the feds. The feds? The feds don't miss that much. They be on that shit like, yo, if I see you again,
Starting point is 01:22:58 you got me, but come here again. That's how I broke my foot at Starless. The judge said, boy, if I see you anytime soon, that show ends. You are over. I thought that was like a childhood. Oh, shit. It's all right.
Starting point is 01:23:12 That's how I broke my foot. Shut up. So they're going to blame the judge for not being able to hop the gate. Well, no, I didn't spend my childhood running from the police. No, just a stereotype. Just being a boy.
Starting point is 01:23:22 That's just a black stereotype. Jumping gates. Yeah. Being a boy, it's all a black stereotype. Jumping gates. Yeah. Being a boy. It's alright. I used to be that nigga jumping gates. I'm not talking about that Star Wars gate with you no more. How are y'all feeling about this Tory Lanez thing?
Starting point is 01:23:36 This thing hit the news yesterday and people have been all over the line talking about it. Not just the facts of the case but also the why and how to feel about it. Don't feel good about it. What's the why? but also the why and how to feel about it. Don't feel good about it. What's the why in terms of why he was stabbed? So let me, let me say first, Tory Lanez was stabbed 14 times, according to his, um, his Instagram. I want to make that clear. He, the hospital hasn't confirmed that and neither has the prison.
Starting point is 01:23:59 I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm inclined to believe him, but I just want to be clear that, uh, I'm going to read exactly what, uh, what Tory Lanez is, uh, what Tory Lanez said from his um it was his Instagram account? Yeah yes. Yeah I love 2025. We don't know if that was Tory Lanez, Story Lanez, Bory Lanez. And listen up, yeah let me read you what Tory said straight from his Instagram right after the incident. Tory was stabbed 14 times including seven wounds to his back, four to his torso, two to the back of his head, and one to the left side of his face. Both of his lungs collapsed and he was placed on a breathing apparatus. He is now breathing on his own.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Despite being in pain, he is talking normally in good spirits and deeply thankful to God that he is pulling through he also wants to thank everyone for their continued prayers and support what we know is the fact that he was stabbed and he was taken to an outside hospital right and and that's what we know for sure and originally one of report came out they said it was non life-threatening injuries that sounds different to collapse does not sound like it's so walk walk in the park. It sounds pretty life. The reason why they're saying that is like just Allegedly a Mexican Mexican gang in there
Starting point is 01:25:13 It was like a hit they stabbed them up The rumors in the street are saying that because while Tory is in there the black people around him He's making sure that they eat he's making sure that good, if you look at Tory wrong and all that, he's just, he's filling up everybody's, he's filling, he's taking care of niggas inside the jail. And sometimes one crew has the upper hand of the other. So that's the rumors behind the scenes. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Y'all clearly are willing to take this further than my journalistic integrity. No, but for real, it's not funny. So, of course, there's nothing funny about this. I absolutely love Tory Lanez, but as far as all of these facts that we have. Cytrosources? No, I'm letting him go. He was feeding the jail. What the fuck, yo? The Mexicans didn't like it. They They didn't like, they said everybody ate.
Starting point is 01:26:06 It's gonna cause a race war in there. That's what they're saying, man. Like there's a lot of news coming out. But who said that outside of WAC 100? Niggas from the prison. I saw WAC 100 and I seen it. But for you, purple, that's enough to source this. Yo, it's mad people listening to this shit.
Starting point is 01:26:22 That's why I was trying. Niggas calling them from the jail. They interview niggas that was shit. That's why I was trying to. Hey look, niggas calling in from the jail. They interviewed niggas that was there. That's in the jail. Any more people? What's up with? Yo, he ducked right at this. So hold up.
Starting point is 01:26:35 Yo, I was right there. Are you acting like niggas from jail don't get the news first before us? Holy shit. Come on, so I just, fuck out of here. Niggas from jail, there's a lot of shit to happen. Okay. You know that, you know better than that.
Starting point is 01:26:45 So why would they stab Tory? I'm not gonna think it's conspiracy shit what they saying, conspiracy. I'm from the school of, I don't know. Right. It's all a legend. I have no idea why none of this happened. I don't know who did it.
Starting point is 01:27:02 I don't know how many times. I know when somebody get hurt bad enough and blood is coming out, that it becomes a matter of liability. I know we start talking about who's responsible, who got what insurance, whose family knows what, how important, there's too many factors in play
Starting point is 01:27:19 for me to feel comfortable saying, all right, I just spoke to Ambray. No, that's not it. spoke to Ambray. No, it's just- Yo, Ambray just gone. That's it. That's it. He said, he said. Yo.
Starting point is 01:27:35 And, and, and, and. Fuck that nigga. Also, if I've been stabbed before, as far as having two collapsed lungs, and then speaking an hour later. Yeah, it's different. That sounds, yeah. That's tough.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Difficult to do. Now listen, Tory did make fucking, what's my song you made? What's the song? I keep the fucking song confused with Drake's song. Not one dance. What the fucking Tory song? What's the song? I keep the fucking song confused with the Drake song. Not one dance. What the fucking Tori song? What's the fast dancing Tori song?
Starting point is 01:28:09 The one he did off the Drake flip? Controller. No, he got his own. Damn, that's gonna bother me. But anyway, listen, Tori made Playboy, but no, that's a tall task. That's a tall task. It's medical professionals that like I was
Starting point is 01:28:26 No, they're not questioning it. They say this bullshit Getting on a breathing apparatus and then being taken off but that's publicist it could be publicist. Yeah, it could also could be How do I say this You there might be an opportunity there to have some good things happen for you if it sounds more dramatic than it was. Yeah, exactly. Better facility, maybe cut some time. All the things you might be thinking. That's why I just want to say we know he was stabbed. They say he got stabbed 14 times. I have no idea how many times he was stabbed. For me, it's been about the conversation people are having about it.
Starting point is 01:29:04 It's disgusting. I kind of don't like it. It's disgusting, Kaniyia. I kind of don't like it. Let me be clear, I'm not a Tory Lanez fan. And I've obviously been very supportive of Meg in the whole situation. But what I find frustrating is the same people. Are you a Meg music fan? No.
Starting point is 01:29:18 He's a Meg fan because she's a woman. I'm a Meg person. She's a Meg person fan. She's a Meg person fan. I know her. I know her. So in a second, I like her Meg person fan. I know her. So I'm saying I like her as a person, one. And two.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Oh, please. You said you knew Charlamagne. They've been shooting at you all weekend. Shut up. Everybody keeps saying he's shooting. I don't think he's shooting at me. You told me he was good friends with him. You've been getting shot at before days.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Yeah, he's shooting at me. I can't listen to y'all, which is I'm good friends with. But my point is, for me, I- Did Charlamagne clean them up? He really did. Did Charlamagne clean them up? He didn't clean them up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:49 About what? Charlamagne got them together. I missed it. Because it didn't happen. Because it didn't happen. He was so much, he don't like when I'm pressing it. No, no, I'm going to be pressing it. I'm going to play it.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Play it. Let's play it right after we finish talking about Meg. Please. We can have this. You know Meg personally? Yeah. Not like we're not homies, but I her well enough to, and I supported her during the situation.
Starting point is 01:30:09 And what I say is I- You DM'd her? No, no, I had conversation. Anything you need. Nah. Nah. I got you. Your bag is different, OG.
Starting point is 01:30:17 No, no, no. Wait, look at Freeze. Anything you need, why you going through all the time? I'm here for you. You want some eggs, youngster? Nah, get it, get it. I'm here for you. I'm here for you. I'm here for you. I'm here for you. I'm here for you. I'm here for you. I could go, wait, look at Freeze. Anything you need, why you going through all the time?
Starting point is 01:30:26 I'm here for you. You want some eggs, youngster? Nah, get it, Mark. Nah, dude, anyway, that's a whole other thing. My point is I supported Meg's position. I thought it was important to defend her given what happened. And I thought that accountability for Tory was important. Where I take issue is if you're asking for Tory
Starting point is 01:30:51 to be held accountable, and for those people that meant prison, you can't then be cheering that he gets stabbed in prison. Cheering for someone getting potentially almost murdered is not dope. Yes, I'm saying, it's fucked up. But if you don't- Like y'all did to the internet or something. You know what I'm saying? It's fucked up. But if you don't.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Like y'all did to the internet or something. I guess what I'm saying is, if he didn't go to prison, you feel like he got off scot-free and this somebody stabbed him. I can see you feeling like, all right, he got what he did. But I'm saying, he went to prison,
Starting point is 01:31:15 what else do you want him to, like he got 10 years. That should be the end of it. So we shouldn't be out there celebrating, especially celebrating, I don't celebrate anybody getting stabbed in prison, but especially in this case. And it's the same people that are calling for justice that are also celebrating him getting stabbed. I don't think that's stabbed in prison but especially in this case and it's the same people are calling for justice
Starting point is 01:31:26 That are also celebrating them getting stabbed. I don't think that's okay. That's all I'm saying So whether you like Tory personally or not whether you agree with the case or not Well, however, you feel about what happened with him and Meg or regardless of that You still shouldn't be on your sub race might get stabbed in a prison yard. That's all I'm saying Okay, and I hated that conversation that was happening on the internet hated that conversation that was happening on the internet. F***. What? Cuz, we always talk about it and leave her out.
Starting point is 01:31:50 That's the important part. Yeah. The f***ing Meg and Tory. Sure. Alright, forget it. Sure, but nobody was saying that, I'm lying. Everybody was talking about it. People were even saying, oh, this is Meg's fault.
Starting point is 01:31:58 She did this to him and now he's getting stabbed. All that conversation was so stupid. It's all stupid. Yeah, I don't get it. Yeah, I can't. Yeah, I hated it. That's not in my ministry. Completely mean, all that conversation is so stupid. It's all stupid. Yeah, I don't get it. Yeah, I can't. I hated it. That's not in my ministry. Completely checked out of that.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Yeah. I would like for Tory to be okay the same way. Shout out to him. I hope that Meg was okay. I would like them both to just be okay. And that's my position on that. Same. 14 times is a lot of times to be stabbed.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Yeah. Yeah. Or cut or anything. Anything. Any interaction with a knife. Word. And the niggas stabbed them must have held the Guinness Book of World Records for being able to stab that many times. You might have got stabbed by multiple niggas and nigga you fighting. That's three. Take much? Yeah, that's true. Listen, listen buddy, that's why.
Starting point is 01:32:49 I obey the law. Yeah, everything you say, I believe you brother. That's just all the more reason why I try my best to stay out. Yeah. It's unfortunate. Yes it is. You're fucking crazy, nigga. Back when I thought I was is. We're fucking crazy nigga.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Back when I thought I was tough running around, Jersey niggas was like, yo in Hudson County they prickin' niggas with HIV needles if you're not down with gang. I said wait, they're doing what? Obeying the law. Very easy. It's the easiest thing in the world.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Don't jaywalk. Just give me 10 minutes. Yeah, nah, I mean. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What everybody say. Oh my, I go out to the world. Don't jaywalk. Just give me 10 minutes. Yeah, nah, I mean. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You know what everybody say? Oh my Lord. I'm going to the studio. I ain't gotta see you, niggas.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Fuck that. That first breakfast plate you get at six in the morning, I'll let you know. If you like food, stay out there, man. Stay out there. Anyway. Rubbery egg. Prayers for Tory, man.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Tory, we love you. We love you. We hope you are well. It's just an unfortunate story. Indeed. A lot of unfortunate stories. One more unfortunate story real quick. I just want to say a rest in peace to LTP Quad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:54 I'm brother to Philly. Yeah, man. Young cat, man. Real dope rapper. Real positive energy. I don't want to call him a kid, but real cool young brother. Yeah. I'm a big fan of him.
Starting point is 01:34:02 I'm a big fan of him. I'm a big fan of him. I'm a big fan of him. I'm a big fan of him. I'm a big fan of him. I'm a big fan of him. I'm a big fan of him. young cat man, real dope rapper, real positive energy. I don't wanna call him a kid, but real cool young brother. He was murdered on Sunday, on Mother's Day. That's awful. Terrible. He was settin' up, actually about a block and a half
Starting point is 01:34:17 from where I grew up. They was outside and he had his chain on, so guys came out, ski mask, tried to rob him of his chain. You know what I'm hearing is that you know he you know it's always a struggle over those kinds of things and they shot him in the chest and he died at the hospital and he just had so much promise. He was so you know I mean it's super talented. I just talked to him a couple weeks earlier that was a DM and I had said to him like cuz we did back and forth I was like, yo, let me know how I can support you. I got new album coming out
Starting point is 01:34:47 I'm excited about it. Can you just repost spread the word or something drop? Maybe put on the pot, you know that kind of thing and he was just so excited about what was up next for him And he had no idea that two three weeks later. He would be He will be going over this foolishness man. I'm just I'm at a point maybe since getting older But I'm just tired of hearing the same story not just about young rappers but just young black men everywhere we're just dying over nothing nothing man over a physical item right right right and I don't want to blame him or anybody you know for you know I've seen same thing happen with um PNB Rock
Starting point is 01:35:21 you know where you know people try to rob you and there's rob you. You have a right to keep your shit, but I also want brothers to understand that their shit is not worth as much as their lives. And all of us gotta do better. All of us gotta do better. All of us gotta do something to stop all this. That's it. So rest in peace.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Yeah, rest in peace. Super duper talented, man. I'm excited to see. Yeah, that one's hot. Yeah, there we go. Rest in peace to that young man, rest in peace to anybody that lost somebody recently out there if you're listening Wish that I could love you right You're special, baby You light my fire
Starting point is 01:36:43 I feel alive with you baby You blow my mind I said I'll take it So much that I need So much that I need So much that I need So much that I need So much that I need So much that I need So much that I need So much that I need So much that I need
Starting point is 01:37:18 So much that I need So much that I need So much that I need So much that I need So much that I need I was watching get up the sport show on ESPN last week and I think Jay will or somebody started talking about how Stephen a did law and order and I know Stephen a is trying to get his acting chops off right and I know he's trying to run for president. It's a lot.
Starting point is 01:37:44 That's two big things to try to get done. He got his hundred million dollars and we still don't know where Max Kellerman is. So as somebody is a supporter of Stephen, a the other day. I was like, man, I ain't doing shit in the crib. Let me go ahead and fucking turn on law and order so I can see them murder. Fucking Stephen A Smith because he's a sports agent.
Starting point is 01:38:05 Like in the show, he's a sports agent of a star athlete who's caught up in the grips with his friends. So it's very similar to things that you heard him say in real life on the show. Did he body? Man, sure enough, I cut on the Law and Order. He's the first scene that comes on, where he's telling the sports star that you ain't LeBron, you ain't KD, you're a grinder, you can't afford to have 11 people on
Starting point is 01:38:29 your staff, you're fucking this up, fire everybody or I'm out of here. Opens up like that hard. It's like oh shit they wildin' right now. So I walked to go get my uber eats that came because I had ordered a little meal. I go get my Uber Eats and I come back, as God would have it, Stephen A is dead on the ground. Hey, they killed Stephen A in 3.3 minutes at the front of this show. He laid in central part. Oh man. You talking about they're gonna fire me,
Starting point is 01:39:00 they're gonna fire you. Oh my God, they ended the shit out of Stephen A. Shout out to Stephen A, but black people, we just died so fast in these shows. Would you do that? Would you do like a walk-on like on a drama? Yeah, 100% especially if I'm a fan of the drama. Okay, like law and order Damn, what's the other one that starts with a fucking? criminal minds What else did I watch all these shit so yeah, no, that'd be a good one. Criminal Minds. Yeah, yeah. What else? I watch all these shit, so yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:26 Mel, can you pull them into one? I'm still trying to get myself into this shit. I mean, you're a star, the lifetime journey. Still trying to get on NBC. It's been a struggle. ABC. CBS? I mean, I got priorities.
Starting point is 01:39:41 CW. CW. I don't even think that exists anymore. Stop being out here, bud. CW? CW? Stop, yo. Right.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Check out the dude who be making homeboys in outer space. No! Vacate from outer space. No. Oh, man. CW. What is wrong with y'all, man? Is that Channel 11?
Starting point is 01:40:03 Yes. Yeah. They still got UPN? UPN? UPN9 or something? What was the first? wrong with y'all, man? Is that Channel 11? Yes. Yeah. They still got UPN? UPN9 or something? What was the first, first was WB, right? No, first was Channel 9. First was WPIX. After Arsenio.
Starting point is 01:40:13 That's what we, it was just PIX. Oh shit, okay. That's hilarious, yo. Man, you got this, man, trust me. Those are the man that's discovered you. I know, I believe in those, man. You gon' be on Dancing With The... Fry Green Tomatoes, part two. Dancing with the people. Some bullshit spend over
Starting point is 01:40:29 lifetimes. Dancing with them. Dancing with friends. Melissa Ford. Dancing with them. Yo. Yo. But she do good in the movies that she's in. I think so. She do. Thank you. I ain't see the last joint that you saw. I'm gonna buy it today. Yeah, it's solid.
Starting point is 01:40:51 It's good. I appreciate that you guys. Thanks for the support. You get PC off of that if we buy it? What's that? You get any money off that if we buy it? No. Or you get the one time fee.
Starting point is 01:41:00 In my, yo, every other week I get a male is so white segment as I watch back the pod. Like you just don't put us in the greatest position to win. Let me just. Shut up. What it's called, it's said. Streets right, man? Take him off the streets.
Starting point is 01:41:15 And call him an electric slide. I will learn it, okay? You've been home practicing? No. No, no, no. Listen to me. No, I, no. Listen to Mel. No, I'm trying to get that fan dance down. I'm sorry?
Starting point is 01:41:28 Like that... I couldn't remember it was called. No, don't say nothing. Don't say a fucking... It's that new country dance that everybody's doing with the fans and shit. How we going? They're talking to you about black shit. It is.
Starting point is 01:41:39 It is. Oh, that's some Chebusey shit? She was a fairy, that. Huh? Shut up. That's a song. That's a song. This was Mel's description of the boots on the ground craze. With the fan.
Starting point is 01:41:50 Oh, that's what she was describing? Yes. It just sounded so different when you said it. Shut the fuck up. No, I'm not being funny. I didn't place it. The first thing I said, the dance with the fans. What?
Starting point is 01:42:01 I know what she was talking about. I didn't know that. Thank you. He knew what I was talking about. You know, do you know any of the moves yet, ma'am? No, I do not. Okay? Ma'am, you didn't get the electric slide down. You're probably not going to get none of the other new dance moves.
Starting point is 01:42:16 We'll see. We'll see what happens. You know, I'm planning a trip to Atlanta soon. My girlfriend does the shit. She going to try and teach me. You run to Atlanta just to...oh. girlfriend does the shit, she gonna try and teach me. You run to Atlanta just to, oh. Oh. Oh. I did it.
Starting point is 01:42:26 I did it. I'm hoping for the best. Let's go, man. I think you got it under control. You got some more press to do. Yeah, I do. I do. Another movie coming out in the show.
Starting point is 01:42:38 Girl, girl. Anyway. She admitted it yet? No. And she won't, nor am I trying to get her to admit to anything. Can I ask a question real quick? What's up? Wasn't there supposed to be a cook-off happening this pod?
Starting point is 01:42:52 No, it was next Tuesday. Oh, well she thought she was losing her job, so she had to make sure she throw something out there so y'all could look forward to. Just in case I leave, let me provide that with food. No, man, get your ass in. No, no, not like that. Not like that. Next Tuesday I leave, let me provide that with food. No, man, get your ass in. No, no, not like that.
Starting point is 01:43:07 Not like that. Man, we've been waiting for Mac. Come on. But here's the thing is I bought it. And you're better than that, man. I bought everything. I'm getting ready to do it. And I took video.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Are you a breakfast maker? Yes. You took video of what? I took video of the ingredients that I bought. You buying cheese? I'm getting ready the ingredients that I bought. You buying cheese? Getting ready. She wanted cheese. I got the macaroni noodles.
Starting point is 01:43:30 I got the pan. Let me see. Which noodles? Let's see. Let us see. The fucking elbows. Which elbows? The macaroni elbows.
Starting point is 01:43:38 There's a couple of them. You guys. Yeah, a lot of people. It's okay. Anywho's. It's coming. This is why she be on her white sheet, because every time we try to talk to her about it and bring her back to the black side,
Starting point is 01:43:46 you stop us mid joint. You always do that. She gonna stay white. Well, we've done our part in terms of adding suspense to the mythical mac and cheese. Just one clarifying. We waited three years. It's never happening. Just one clarifying question.
Starting point is 01:43:57 You went to Zoom on yesterday? For next Tuesday? I have a really busy week so I decided to just kind of get it out of the way sure I just bring them down with you what else needs what else needs our full attention I can tell you something these are full attention the draft yes You got them right? back Everybody thought the sixes was done. We we who this niggas got a third pick for the fourth pick the third
Starting point is 01:44:36 Number one pick like a 70,000 times Shit you say that up for the number one beat wrong. We back greatest job of... I'm a Sixers fan. That's the who is we. That's the old administration. Markel Fultz.
Starting point is 01:44:52 You can pick everybody. Ben Simmons. What else you got? I just loved it. Will Chamberlain, Charles Barkley. I just loved it. You started... Yeah, from going back.
Starting point is 01:45:02 I'm about to pull George McGinnis out of my ass. I just loved that you started betting, well, you know our bet, that the Sixers would have a better record and now we are happiest can be over their lottery position, third pick. When you have, look. I get some consolation prize. Tyrese Maxey got McCain over there, Paul George, PG. It was an injury season. This happened to the Spurs where Dave Roberts was injured for a year?
Starting point is 01:45:27 They get Tim Duncan and they created dynasty at the first pick though I know but sometimes the third pick turns out pretty good a guy named Michael Jordan third pick Sure, I mean the Dwayne Wade draft third pick, right? We've got a lot of the old three draft, but there's a lot of great third picks. But the point is, Ace Bailey, I think, is who we're gonna get. I think he's a solid player out of Rutgers. But the point is, the point is the Sixers
Starting point is 01:45:53 are in a position now to rebuild and hopefully maybe even trade something. What J. William said today, which I agree with, is the Mavericks, who I really wanna get to, should consider trading their number one pick. There's a lot of talk about that. To Milwaukee. To Milwaukee for Yannis.
Starting point is 01:46:08 Or to the Sixers to try to get a Tyrese Maxey. Because if you get a Tyrese Maxey and the number three pick or something like that, you could rebuild. I support that choice. But the real question I have is, how the fuck do the Mavericks keep getting the number one pick when there's a white superstar on the table?
Starting point is 01:46:24 Is this their first time getting the number one pick. I mean the lottery pick, the lead lottery pick. A lottery pick, when I say number one, I mean like lottery pick, not the overall number one pick. Nigga, they just traded. In the last couple years, they've had blockbuster trades. There have been some conspiracy theories. I'm just floating the conspiracy theory.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Just a percentage of them winning the lottery pick. 1%. Less than 1%. It happens. I don't think it's a conspiracy, but I'm just floating. There Just a percentage of them winning the lottery pick. One percent. Less than one. It happens. Yeah, I don't think it's a conspiracy, but I'm just floating. There's a lot of people. Sometimes it be a duck when it looking quack like one.
Starting point is 01:46:52 Sometimes it really could be a duck. Spurs keep getting top picks, Mavericks keep getting top picks, I don't know. What's the conspiracy for the person that watch basketball? He says it's fixed. People have been saying that the lottery's been fixed since Patrick Ewing drafted 85. People have been saying that the lot of the fix since the Patrick you and it draft the 85 people Have been saying that the league decides where players go
Starting point is 01:47:08 I don't believe that but it's been a prevalent theory and the fact that the Mavs got another big pick is interesting I don't think it's I think it's just coincidence and good luck, but it's fixed I think it's fixed to and the conspiracy really is because Luca just went to the Lakers Yo, we're gonna trade y'all star over here. To our biggest market. Yeah, one of our biggest markets. There's the conspiracy right here. And we'll look y'all out on the flip side, we got you.
Starting point is 01:47:33 With the Cooper flag. And that was on the anniversary of where the conspiracy, I want to say started, which is us with Patrick Ewing. Yup. There's fucking. The Magic was involved. The Shacken Pitch. The Magic got hella lucky.
Starting point is 01:47:49 Yeah, Spurs got hella lucky with some knuckers. Spurs got super lucky. They were 41 and 41 that year. No, they were worse than that, but they weren't great. They were, no, they missed the playoffs in that one game? No, no, they were bad. Oh, were they? They were bad.
Starting point is 01:48:01 You're right, okay. So, that's right, because Dave Roberts didn't play, you're absolutely right. It was the Magic that was 40. And Sean Roberts didn't play. You're absolutely right. It was the Magic. And Sean Elliott didn't play. I'm sorry. I'm confusing the Magic and the Spurs. The Magic were 41 and 41 in catapult. Cleveland and 03 with LeBron.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Yeah. Derrick Rose to Chicago. Zion to New Orleans while the league owned New Orleans. Yeah. There's been a few. The Anthony Bennett Cleveland pick. Cleveland has gotten the number one of mad times. Wiggins.
Starting point is 01:48:30 What's up, dear? And they're showing how in the last eight years the team with the worst record has not finished in like the top with the top pick. I feel like they're almost trying to punish teams for tanking too much after the post process. That's the whole part a top pick. I feel like they're almost trying to punish teams for tanking too much after post process.
Starting point is 01:48:45 That's the whole point of the lottery. Right. Yeah. But I mean, teams were still, the Sixers didn't even know we weren't guaranteed one. Right. Now it seems like having the worst record, you almost not going to get it. Niggas did all that for Ben Simmons. Bums.
Starting point is 01:48:57 Yo, the process in hindsight, y'all are sick. The process in hindsight is one of the nastiest things in sports With the Jason time. We was four bounces away the process didn't necessarily it was the process works They traded they traded out of Jason Tatum The New Orleans Noel pick The Ben Simmons pick and how that turned out. And in Beads Injury. So the process, you're looking at five, six draft picks that they were supposed to do.
Starting point is 01:49:33 And they all, it's like a curse. It's like the high five curse, or the Three's Company curse. You think that's reflective of the process? Or just them bum ass GMs? Well, some people call it karmic retribution. All of that's the process. Y'all were adamant and vocal about trying to lose for years and just kept telling your fan base, trust the process.
Starting point is 01:49:54 So now this is what happened with each player that you picked in those five, six years. It looks the way is all I'm saying. I'm just saying, to Isha's point, that's not a referendum on the process. If the Sixers had better GM's if we Had Danny Ainge We'd be in we'd be winning our fifth ring right now. That's not replying to the comic retribution part
Starting point is 01:50:11 No, the kind of car go pick up stars. I don't believe in that we got your Paul George We're taking making moves to telling people trust the process. I give example the year nothing worked We dread we traded drew holiday. Yep Which got us the right to draft Michael Carter Williams, and we already had a pick to get nervous. Noel. It's nasty Right. Do you know who went number 15 in that draft a guy named Yanis out to the Kumpel? Now nobody knew the house will be honest white with 15, but we could have gotten but even when y'all picked up Michael Carter Williams he won rookie of the year y'all traded the nigga like a
Starting point is 01:50:46 Played I mean it was the right choice if you think about it They can one rookie of the year, bro Started to have a nigga start playing too good and you gotta get out of here because you fucking up the real process of thinking What's happening to it? Oh what you doing? No get him out of here Michael. Carter Williams works at sunglass hut now He uses a lot of a lot of focus on the lottery team. I'm not talking about the lottery team. I'm talking about the lottery, the lottery. The question is, is the NBA fixed?
Starting point is 01:51:09 Let's get back to that. Not a lottery team, the lottery. I don't think the NBA is fixed. Yo, your Knicks been good for like two weeks, and y'all just, you know what? I'm talking about car wreck rep attribution. But they built that team the right way. They did.
Starting point is 01:51:21 They did. Dog, can't nobody say nothing to me about the Knicks, dog. I was there watching Chris Dudley as a starter. Yeah. Like if I just tell you all of the people I've watched throughout the year, you can't say nothing to me about what's going on now. You crazy? I don't fuck with them. Like, but they, they, I was there for Vin Baker. No, they did it. Like washed Vin Baker. Super watching Vin Baker. Even Jerome James. Yo, they, they, they took their number two pick that they drafted and sent his ass to Toronto for a pivotal piece of the team Like they doing it the right way. I commend them for what they do. I don't fuck with them, but I mad at them I hate them by but I but I ain't mad at them for the for their journey and getting there going to state did it
Starting point is 01:51:58 The right way they kept drafted in the players. They did it just to me the Sixers and other teams that lose on purpose I'm okay with that. But what these other teams have shown us is that it doesn't say it don't work. I'll just say it ain't the only way because there's no guarantee. I mean Boston Celtics are a good example of that. They rebuilt without ever being as bad as the Sixers were because they had a better GM. They finessed us. I agree. Out of Jason Tatum. I mean they didn't finesse out of Jason Tatum but they finessed us into another. No I mean they already had Jason Tatum. I mean, they didn't finesse that Jason Tatum, but they finessed us into another, no, I mean, they already had number one pick.
Starting point is 01:52:26 They had, yeah, they had the one. Yeah, they swapped. Again, this is just a lot of focus on lottery losers. I'm talking about Boston. Losers, excuses. You know what? We don't, like, it's a lot of losers. You know what, I'll move on from that. Then how about the other NBA piece of news,
Starting point is 01:52:39 which is that Michael Jordan, to me, the most underwhelming piece of news, Michael Jordan is now going to be doing NBA coverage again. I love it. I can't wait. I love it. They're bringing the theme song back, right? That would be fine.
Starting point is 01:52:52 They better. You damn near have to. You have to. They better. What's your thoughts on that, Mark? Sounds like a good idea, right? Not to me. I think it sounds like a great idea.
Starting point is 01:53:00 If Michael Jordan wanted to do it, you can't say no. I just don't think he's going to be good at it. I remember when Dr. J was doing NBA coverage. He was terrible at it. Michael Jordan is not a good talker. Horrible. And he's the most reserved person in sports. The reason he's a superstar is because he doesn't say anything about anybody in public.
Starting point is 01:53:14 So I'm not sure he's going to be as provocative as we think. If he is, it's going to slip out. No, I think you're wrong. Some hate is going to slip out. I think you're wrong. I think Michael Jordan is going to be like, yo, the guy ain't shit, really. Like, what are you talking about? You think so? What? We saw Michael Jordan be like, you know what a guy ain't shit really like What we saw Michael Jordan
Starting point is 01:53:36 They had him as a judge for the dunk contest of the All-Star game and it was some fire shit Wow Teal Nothing higher than the six yo, but just sitting here hating just to look on his face I want to see, get up here and hate on this shit because I know you don't like the game today. I would love to see him. I want to hear him talk about it. Bird, Karl Malone, and Barkley get up there. I want to hear Michael Jordan. He's a dummy.
Starting point is 01:53:52 He's a dummy. The Paces shooting, excuse me, Celtic shooting 45 threes. See, and I want to hear Michael Jordan's son talk about the Celtic shooting 45 threes. While on coke. He'll talk about it here. I don't get it. All right. I just think Michael Jordan going to come in there, fuck around, be off that. What?
Starting point is 01:54:07 Easy Jesus. Nah, he's got to go tequila. That nigga be drunk. That nigga lights somebody up. That's a tequila drinker right there. You know, the real reason they lost, because he ain't shit. Like yo, he's charged. He's coming in with his eyes yellow and get to talking.
Starting point is 01:54:15 What? That deep drinker. That deep drinker. That deep drinker. That deep drinker. That deep drinker. That deep drinker. That deep drinker.
Starting point is 01:54:23 That deep drinker. That deep drinker. That deep drinker. That deep drinker. That's a tequila drinker right there. You know, the real reason they lost, cause he ain't shit. Like yo, he's trash. He's coming there with his eyes yellow, and get to talking. What? That deep ass voice, he talk mad slow. This is gonna be comedy. It is.
Starting point is 01:54:34 I don't think it's gonna be good. I didn't say what he's getting paid, right? No. No. That's what I want to know. You think it's a lot. Yes. Yeah, what?
Starting point is 01:54:42 Well yeah. For me to leave my NASCAR team, for me to leave my billions to come sit up on this dusty ass podium, y'all gonna pay me. I guess that's our one, like, is there, Michael don't really need money as far as we know, so when you get to that level of money, do they still have to like make like a stupid offer for you to say yes?
Starting point is 01:54:57 Gotta pay for my time. How much is that worth? Depend on the person. I'm asking, how much you think Michael Jordan's time is worth? More than Charles in there. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:07 And they getting a nice bag. Maybe. Is it worth more than Charles? Charles is so good. Well. Charles is great. Shaq is great. We're talking about Charles with 20 years
Starting point is 01:55:16 versus Michael Jordan today. They gave Tom Brady $30 million, my nigga. That is true. Tom Brady's good though. No he's not. No he's not. And he did not have any experience at all. I just assumed he was good.
Starting point is 01:55:26 No, he's not. He's stale. Really? I don't watch football, so. They gave him $30 million out the gate. Yeah. Is he a draw then? Does he bring in the audience?
Starting point is 01:55:35 Yes. Is that what? OK. Yes. So it's like he could be mad. See, I don't think he's really mad as if Tom Brady is good or not. Mm.
Starting point is 01:55:41 All right, so just to answer your question, the theme song is returning. Yes. Michael Jordan is joined as a special commentator. I don't know if that means he's gonna be sitting on the panel the entire time. This thing's gonna do occasionally. Special means he gonna pop in just to say niggas is ass.
Starting point is 01:55:56 Yeah. That's all I'm gonna do. I'm gonna take and go back home. And the other commentators, which I think this will be fire, the other commentators are Jamal Crawford, Carmelo Anthony Anthony Reggie Miller Reggie's a pro. That's great. Jamal is very good. Jamal has gotten very good as of late And I'm excited to see Carmelo. I don't know about the other two. I don't think I'm not the biggest Reggie commentating Reggie's cool
Starting point is 01:56:19 He need to be paired up with somebody. Yeah, but I was good for color. I don't see the comedy Yeah, I was gonna say where's the personality in there? Like, who's going to shoot up? Carmelo. Well, sorry, not that. Who's going to shoot off at the mouth? Mellow, hopefully. OK.
Starting point is 01:56:33 And we got Mike. That's to be determined. I'm telling you, I think Mike will disappoint you. I hope not. I think this will be like the Bobcats all over again. Yeah, maybe so. The Bobcats all over again. Yeah, maybe so. The Bobcats. A study shows that K is the most emotionally triggering text you can send a person.
Starting point is 01:56:53 That's a fact. No, it's not. You got something else? Yeah. We need to talk. Oh. Yeah, well, yeah. That's the one. That's the one.
Starting point is 01:57:00 You feel that shit in your... Definitely for y'all. ...spine. That's not worth it, K. K triggers a different emotion. Yeah, yeah, K. K triggers a different emotion. What do K do to y'all? K is so fucking dismissive. K is a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:57:12 It is a lot of things, but I think that dismissive is extremely high on the list. Like imagine you wrote an entire text to somebody and it's like, you know, well thought out and whatever, and they just hit you back with K, not even just K, period. Oh, see I hate the thumbs up when I get that. Same shit. They are synonymous. Thumbs up is meant to do the same. K is meant to do the same.
Starting point is 01:57:34 You couldn't do that before. I dig it. So that's like the new version of it. See I be writing K all the time, I don't be meaning shit. Nah. I just been pissing motherfuckers off. And I think it depends on what it's in. Yeah, basically. Nah, we need to talk this way. And I think it depends on what it's in response to,
Starting point is 01:57:48 but yeah, K is some bullshit. There's nothing to write you one of them books. So my wife writes, I miss you and I write K. Oh, bro. You don't do that. You don't hear that. I'm just joking, I'm just joking. Stop it.
Starting point is 01:57:59 I'm just joking. I wouldn't do that. There's no point in the day that a K is OK. No. Really? No, I'm downstairs. No point in the day is a K. They get you with the? No, I'm downstairs. No point in the day is a K. They get you with the, yo, I'm outside, K.
Starting point is 01:58:06 Yeah, that's how I answer it. If you could text K, you could text okay. No. No. It's all right. Yo, I'm outside, K? No, dog, I'm not one of your little friends in the street, dog. Yes, you are.
Starting point is 01:58:17 No, I'm 20 times. What if it's Ish? What if it's Ish? He is one of your little friends in the street. Ish is a man. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, you know what I mean.
Starting point is 01:58:24 I'm a little me with nothing. You know what I mean. You know what, whoa, whoa. Well, you know what I mean. I'm Lil Me with nothing. You know what I mean, you know what I mean. So if like, you know, Is says I'm down. Stop eating sugar. Yeah, he eat Lil Homie. He's smaller now. He's smaller now. Yeah, he might be a Lil Homie now.
Starting point is 01:58:34 Just cause he lost some weight. But anyway, he shouldn't be saying K to me. No man should be saying K to me. See, I think it sounds less macho for sure. Like, K. Sounds like a bitch. That's another way to put it. You don't use that word, sorry. Right. But I'm just saying, like, that'so for sure. Like K. Sounds like a bitch. That's another way to put it. You don't use that word, sorry.
Starting point is 01:58:47 But I'm just saying, that's why I don't use K. Like if you sent me a note, I would be like K. Not because it feels like I'm in this and that and just because it feels like I shouldn't be saying that to you. It feels like something your lady should be saying to you. But it don't trigger me. My girl know better to say K. If she say K to me, that's just a way of letting me know
Starting point is 01:59:02 that it's on. It's on. All right, K. that thumbs up shit, and a good morning or something with no emojis, just on some dry, yo, morning. GM. Who the fuck are you talking to? Morning.
Starting point is 01:59:17 So when you're good morning, I come up with emojis? About that. I'm big on how you start, how we start the day. That niggas is crazy. You can't start my day with no bullshit. That's too dramatic. So what do you want? You want like good morning with like a sunflower or something?
Starting point is 01:59:32 Baby, something, you know. Something warm. Yeah, if y'all don't shut your stupid ass up. Something that speaks to the quality of this relationship. Put some sugar on it. Yeah. Good morning is good. Good morning, King.
Starting point is 01:59:45 Babe. My King, my love, my Earth, my all, my everything. My oxygen. Some emoji. My reason for living. Well, watch your mouth. Watch your mouth. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:55 You said all that shit out the niggas. Who the fuck am I saying that shit to right now? When you're in a relationship, you said that? I am so ridiculously affectionate. I'm such a kitten. Yup. Yup. My king, my oxygen, my reason for living. Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:00:11 You did that for homeboy birthday last week. It is my king. I mean, he has someone. But happy birthday to my king. My love, my everything. I just said, you know, me and more. They're going to get you. You said me and more?
Starting point is 02:00:30 They're going to get you. Look. She's just affectionate. She shows a lot of love. The kitten is showing paws. Yo. Hey. Yo.
Starting point is 02:00:36 What the shit? That's one real crazy. You get involved in lawsuit each time. That's wild. Slap, now this. The kitty is showing, the kitten is showing, okay. Okay. I don't play that case.
Starting point is 02:00:51 Nah, we need to talk is still the worst. That's a different level of stress. There's nothing worse. That shit makes my heart beat fast. Yeah, I don't want to, yeah. Makes you want to not talk. Yeah. Just text me what you got to say.
Starting point is 02:01:01 Because there ain't never nothing good. Never. I'll put it on. Yeah, you all see the memes. Nigga be water in the grass. His girl be like, yo, we need to talk. Next scene, that nigga be up here with the water above his head. And he's still like, nigga, in the swimming pool. Right, he's stopping us.
Starting point is 02:01:15 Say, everybody want to talk. I'm good. Fuck that. Yo, we need to talk. We'll give you the straight BGs. Yeah, for sure. I don't know if it has the same effect on us. What you mean?
Starting point is 02:01:26 Because we'll never want to talk. Niggas don't want to say. It's never happened before. It never happened. It never happened. So what kind of text can a dude send you that would get you anxious? Other than.
Starting point is 02:01:40 Silence. No, it's funny. No, it's funny. No, it's funny. You've got to leave. Silence. Get your ass, girl. It's been four days. Get your shit.
Starting point is 02:01:52 Get your shit. Get your hat and coat and leave. Let's talk shit. Uber's outside. That's funny. No, silence. That's what gives me anxiety. Like when you send something, you get nothing?
Starting point is 02:02:04 Yeah. Yeah, something like that. How long? It depends. Depends if there was like a flow of conversation going. It just depends. I understand people are busy, and you can't. I don't expect like to. Do you believe in giving space, ma'am?
Starting point is 02:02:19 You can just hear the annoying. Leave her alone. Stop it. I'm just asking you how long you can hear it. It don't matter if we hear it. She's been in listening. She just annoying. You know what? We don't matter if just hear it. Leave her alone. Stop it. I'm just asking you how long you've been in here. It don't matter if we hear it. She just doesn't know. Listen, you know what?
Starting point is 02:02:27 We don't matter if we hear that. Here's the thing, is I am so easy breezy beautiful cover girl when I'm in a relationship. I don't stress you out. I am not just on you all the time where I need constant attention and constant this and constant that. That's not me. I'm busy. So you believe in getting home-based.
Starting point is 02:02:44 I'm busy. So what were you about to say about understanding how someone else is busy but. I understand that you're busy, so it's just like I'm not expecting an immediate response. Maybe if there's some emergency aspect to the text, but other than that, go on about your day. But if, I don't know, I text you in the morning and I don't hear from you until seven o'clock,
Starting point is 02:03:01 I'm like, yo, what the fuck? That is a lot. Thank you. And then also, What's the name? Also, also, in the dating, this is a conversation that's come up online. What's going on, man? What happened, man?
Starting point is 02:03:14 Is when you have expressed, two people have expressed interest in each other and there's synergy and whatever else, what is the expectation of communicating every single day? Synergy, too. Bitches be missing? Synergy too, bitches be missing. Synergy. That's a drink. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:30 That's a wrap, old cousin. Yeah. What are the expectations as far as speaking every day? Yeah. Yes, you should. I've never been interested in somebody and I talk to them every day. That is exactly my thinking. And that's what I judge whether or not I'm continuing.
Starting point is 02:03:51 Mark, don't listen to Mark. Yeah, don't listen to Mark. I am going to listen to Mark. Don't listen to Mark. I am because he's sensible and that makes sense to me. Oh, okay, hold up. Easy. Easy.
Starting point is 02:04:00 Stop it. Do you believe in giving space? Do you believe in that? Why do you need space in the beginning? Like, you know, when we're starting to talk, why do you need space for? That's what you need the space. Time out.
Starting point is 02:04:11 You know what I'm saying? Why do you need space when we just starting to talk? But then on the other hand, you said, yo, I don't really need the communication like that. I know niggas is busy. No, space is different. Then when we first start talking. Well, okay.
Starting point is 02:04:24 Okay. I basically, I Then when we first start talking? Well, okay, okay. I basically, I said that we started talking, there's synergy established, you like me, I like you, I don't get the gaps. I don't fucking get it. If you like somebody- I'm not talking about like day one, day two, day three,
Starting point is 02:04:40 I'm not talking about that- Come on, day six. Y'all been on some dates, y'all starting to kick it? Yeah, you're kicking it. You're probably like- I at least send you a hello, I might not want to talk all Like, no. Y'all been on some dates, y'all starting to kick it? Yeah, you're kicking it. But are you a- You're probably like- I at least send you a hello. I might not want to talk all day, have a whole conversation, but I'll probably send you something. Let's go, let's go.
Starting point is 02:04:50 I ain't never been forty-nine. We talking pre-sex or post-sex? And how many hoes you got? Well, I said we talking. Y'all niggas be up here filming, y'all. I'm cool. I'm making a good shit, bro. All right.
Starting point is 02:04:58 We ain't exclusive yet. No, but here's the thing is- I just like you. We just kick it. No, but here's the thing is- How often do you talk to somebody? If y'all like each other, how often y'all talk? thing is I just like you But if I just like you I also like her in her in her
Starting point is 02:05:16 Like that's kind of becoming you You can see more than one text in a day I know yeah, but she a little bit more entertaining right now. Maybe I'm maybe. Enough that you can't even say it. No, no, no, no. Hold on, y'all. Let me hug you that shit off, please. Maybe I'm just speaking from the perspective of somebody who is looking for some level of like maturity.
Starting point is 02:05:34 You know what I'm saying? And somebody. Sorry. No play, no play. What the fuck are you doing? And somebody who is actually looking for something. If that's not what you're looking for, cool, no problem. But I'm looking to build upon, you know.
Starting point is 02:05:50 You're dating with intention. I'm dating, thank you. Thank you very much. I'm dating with intention. And if I do not get the feeling that you are there, by all means, go with God, don't let the door hit you on the fucking way out. There we go, ma'am.
Starting point is 02:06:01 So when do you express that to them? When I start to see a pattern, and patterns show up very, very quickly, I will assess it very quickly. I mean, when you express to them, hey, I'm dating with intention. Thank you, thank you, man. Please, God damn. What? Not you, I'm just, that niggas just.
Starting point is 02:06:21 What? No, no, no, no. Where's the frustration? Mr. Married Man of 17 years who has not been in the dating game whatsoever. No, I'm, shh, you got me. I know I did. I know I fucking did.
Starting point is 02:06:33 And you just, at the second time you just fucking beat me. But I'm saying, I got you. I'm protecting you from yourself. I was asking you, thank you, are you a back to back texter? Meaning like, do you respond instantly with a nigga text? Cause that can be an issue no I mean Yes, it depends if we're having a conversation like on
Starting point is 02:06:52 If we're having a conversation on text and whatever he said or I said warrants of response is it man Yes, but then not not always you guys We can continue on patreon we did yeah, okay or later Not always. You guys. We did it. We did it. We did it. Oh, we can continue on Patreon. We did it. Okay. Or later, but let's just give it a little. Breathing room.
Starting point is 02:07:11 Yeah, just let it breathe for a little bit. Let's check the temperature of the room. Okay. Fucking, so the Puff Trail is still going on. We talked about it earlier, but I want to just make it very clear that I am not an expert on any of the charges, I'm not a legal expert, I don't know nothing about, I mean don't take my word
Starting point is 02:07:30 as fact, I don't know exactly what sex trafficking is. I feel like that should be described at some point. Defined, yeah. Yeah. Well I mean I have a definition of sex trafficking from, it's the Office of Victims of Crime, it's a government office. They break it down in regular English.
Starting point is 02:07:51 Is it different in the feds as it is in state? I don't know, but he's a fed case anyway. Cuz most sex trafficking is federal. Yeah, because it involves state law. Okay, federal definition of sex trafficking. The recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, or obtaining of a person for the purposes of commercial sex act in which the commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud,
Starting point is 02:08:18 or coercion in which the person, or excuse me, or in which the person induced is under 18. OK, so I'm wrong earlier when I say that they haven't addressed sex trafficking then. Because everything in Cassie's testimony, by that definition, describes sex trafficking. They break this down. If they bought somebody in, if they flew,
Starting point is 02:08:38 what the girls are saying, flew then, got flew then. No, if Cassie is saying, yo, I was here because I was afraid of you and this is what you made me do, then that falls under that. Well, let me break it. They go a little bit further. Just, they break down the action. So recruiting, proactively targeting an individual's vulnerabilities and or grooming. And then you get the child part or befriending a child with the intention to abuse.
Starting point is 02:09:03 Using, supplying alcohol and or drugs to garner an intimate relationship or support an existing habit. Harboring, isolation, confinement, and or monitoring of another person's movement. Yeah? Transporting, the unwanted movement and or arranging of travel of another person.
Starting point is 02:09:24 Unwanted. Unwanted, Unwanted. Key word there. Providing the act of giving a person as a commodity to another person. Obtain that's where it gets tricky. A couple of these. Obtaining, forcibly taking something from someone else, exchanging something for the ability to control another person.
Starting point is 02:09:50 And then soliciting, offering something of value in exchange for sex, such as housing, food, clothing, travel, etc. So those are the actions. And I looked up Commercial Sex Act. Okay, and this is key. Commercial Sex Act is defined as any sex act on account of which anything of value is given to or received by any person. So it breaks it down exchange of value the definition emphasizes the exchange of something of value for the sex act distinguishing it from a non-commercial sexual activity. So if I pay you for some, if I buy you some shoes, if I take you shopping, if I take you to the mall and buy you some a bag. If it's in exchange for it.
Starting point is 02:10:28 In exchange for some. That's not the same as like. That's not. Tricking. Yeah. Yeah. That's the distinction. That's the nuance.
Starting point is 02:10:36 It's not courting. It's not that. That is tricking. No, no, no, no. You mean tricking in the slang sense. Basically, if I take a girl and we go to dinner and we have sex and then I buy her shoes the next day, that's not a commercial sex act. If I give her sex for the shoes.
Starting point is 02:10:47 If I buy you some shoes for the sex, but then that's a gray area, like, yo, I was doing this just cause. This is all the shit that they're gonna have to prove in this case. But that's done a lot, though. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 02:10:58 I'm just saying, that's done a lot. They're highlighting the consistency of the act. But remember, he's not being charged for the commercial sex act. It's the combination of having a commercial sex act. It's, it's coercion force or fraud to put somebody into a commercial sex act. So it's not enough to say I'm fucking you for shoes. Well, this is where it also, so they break down force, fraud and coercion force, physical assault, sexual assault, isolation, and or confinement of another person
Starting point is 02:11:25 fraud, false employment offers, sexual assault, isolation, and or confinement of another person. Fraud, false employment offers, sham marriages, lying about work situation, withholding wages, and or taking legal documentation. Coercion, threats of violence, threats of arrest, slash deportation, debt bondage, and or withholding legal documentation? A lot of shit is based on the immigration shit because you know they'll promise they papers they'll do all of that shit so that's where a lot of that. There's a big
Starting point is 02:11:53 you talk about law and order like that's that's a big thing that would happen on those episodes where the girls get shipped over or you know you think you're coming to the United States to get a big guest worker or do child childcare. You put your, put your strip club. Yeah, or a rub and tug, right. And those kinds of things. So it's a lot to prove in this case. It is. A lot of the stuff that I'm hearing,
Starting point is 02:12:11 like I'm reading the transcript of Cassie's, the AUSA. A couple of these things could apply. More than a couple. I think a lot of it is open to interpretation. And that's what the jury selection is going to matter a lot. Well I have a question. So I just checked the definition out about coercion which is a with force or threats right but persuasion, is persuasion illegal? Persuasion is still illegal because persuasion still implies that a person is making their own choice. Got it. Coercion is when you're forcing their hand You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:12:45 And in this case forcing the hand to make them do something that's already illegal which is the commercial sex act So it's a it's a bunch of things happening that one. Yeah, and I don't again there needs to be a lot more evidence Shown to make that case, but it seems like Setting the stage. Yeah, it's a stage for it in a it and the legal framework seems to be there for a potential case. But again, we'll see what happens. This is going to be the hardest one for him to beat to me. Did you guys make anything of the daughters leaving the courtroom as their escort was testifying?
Starting point is 02:13:18 No. That seems like decency. That was decent. Taking the kid, taking the daughters out. And as the person that I never just saying oh damn I mean they make some valid points I never thought I'd say it but Boosie's his comments on this have surfaced again and a lot of people are like I get what he's saying. Comments from the past? Right after Puff was arrested.
Starting point is 02:13:45 Okay. And it's making its rounds again. Yeah. He said, I feel Diddy's in jail for basically doing whatever the other famous entertainer has done. Flu chicks out for threesomes. He's just freakier. We actually go call, we actually gonna call women
Starting point is 02:14:01 prostitutes who fly in willingly to be with their partners for sex. If that's the case, if you've been flued out and had sex, you should be labeled a prostitute. If that's the case, then 80% of the women reading this and trafficking, hell no. If you're a celebrity, you gotta fly pussy in. How else are you gonna get the pussy? You're never in one place.
Starting point is 02:14:24 Now when I saw that video, I was pissed off at this nigga. Like he really got a problem. But facing life in prison for basically doing what so many other entertainers has done. And, okay well- It's that gray area again. I don't think it's that gray. I don't.
Starting point is 02:14:43 Me either. What's, what, what? I mean, some of that in there is okay. I think he made it a little more broad than what seems to be on trial. Exactly. Which, when you make it broad like that, it seems like, yeah, he's right.
Starting point is 02:14:58 But if you're talking about actually coercing people and persuading people with pressure, that's a different conversation than just flying, willing participants. That's exciting. Yeah, and that shit is relevant. If you're flying a prostitute from Cleveland to New Jersey, yes, prostitution is illegal, but you as the nigga that's paying for it,
Starting point is 02:15:20 you not telling, and she as the person that's prostituting, ain't telling. Yeah. There's nothing that's happening there, not condoning it, not telling and she as the person that's prostituting ain't telling yeah there's nothing that's happening that's there not condoning it not saying is right I am very I don't see he's wrong with it well prostitution is against the law yeah I'm just saying I was registered I don't think I think that's part of what we got my stance too but every time I say that on the bar these niggas think that I'm fucking escorts every week so I'm trying to do clean my image up. Fair enough, fair enough.
Starting point is 02:15:47 You, they not gonna ever say, Mark is fucking escorts. I do not do that. And I don't know why they wouldn't say that. Because I don't? Because I don't? Oh, neither do I. Fair, so yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.
Starting point is 02:16:02 And that's the problem. But to Isha's point, if you have a certain moral makeup and you think that that's wrong, then you may sit in that jewelry box and say, just because he's fucking prostitutes, he's already a bad person. And let me be clear, Puff is a bad person. He's a piece of shit, but not because of that.
Starting point is 02:16:17 I think that's very different than you ordering a prostitute and then beating her ass and then taking her shopping and then saying, I'm your man, and then handcuffing her to the bed, and then following her to another stage, and then black her ass and then taking her shopping and then saying I'm your man and then handcuffing her to the bed and then following her to another stage and then blackballing her and then saying you can't put your album out and then like that's very, very different.
Starting point is 02:16:34 They asked her about albums. It was like she signed a 10 album deal. She put one album out. And she's like, I got it. That should have been the first sign. Yeah, I can't do that. I got to do. That's where my deal is.
Starting point is 02:16:44 So I've never had to put more music do. That's where my deal is. So I've never had to put more music out. Anything else was leaked music, mixed tape stuff, but. And even that could be a form of career that we spoke about. Right. For me, anytime Bootsy talk, I'd normally disagree with him.
Starting point is 02:17:00 This was the least outlandish thing he said. And it was, and again, in fairness to Bootsy, which I never thought I'd say, that interpretation was based on the information we had at the time. But now that we're getting more information, it's like, oh wait, okay, it is more than that. It is more than that.
Starting point is 02:17:13 And the more information we get, the more we realize it's not what Boosie thinks it is. Well, he described it, he's right. But what he's describing ain't what's happening. That's not this. Yeah, it ain't it. Well, it's not fully describing it. Yes.
Starting point is 02:17:22 And omission sometimes is. It changed everything. It changed everything. It changed everything. So he got two counts. Does anybody know who the unnamed individual is yet? The Jane Doe? This is just the Jane Doe? No.
Starting point is 02:17:33 And I was just reading, it was like around 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock at night, they submitted paperwork to allow the Jane Doe to actually testify under an alias. So then she's not gonna say her name even on the stand. Wow. Just so y'all know on a different note, Smokey Robinson has broken his silence. Oh. I know everybody's been waiting.
Starting point is 02:17:56 With bated breath. Yes. What did he say? Please tell me what Smokey said. I'm appalled. I can't speak about this right now. Why you stuttering, my nigga? Y'all say it like Smokey. That's how we sounded. Y'all say it this right now. Why you stuttering my nigga? That's how we sounded.
Starting point is 02:18:08 That's how 85 year old niggas from Detroit sound when they catch sex. He wrote the stutters in the notes. I read the transcript. I'm appalled. I can't speak about this right now. And then he did an interview with the Daily Mail. The Daily Mail? Yes.
Starting point is 02:18:24 Christ. And after that, they reported that he started mumbling incoherently. See, that's what I get for fucking. He's 85. And then hung up. So I think, one, he could be incoherent. I don't think it's theoretical, 85-year-olds incoherent.
Starting point is 02:18:39 You ever talked about it? If they're incoherent? Not all of them. Not all of them, but he might have been. Not all of them, but my mom is 86. And at least, I mean, she's quite incoherent. Right? Why is she with your mama?
Starting point is 02:18:52 Obviously. What's his date? Just passed. Right. The status is over. I know something. You can go. Every time she sent me birthday money, at least once a month.
Starting point is 02:19:02 Oh, bro. Man, I'll be killing off that shit. I got thousands this year. Mark. Yo, Mark, what the fuck? And they ain't going to hate no Frazier getting this shit off my mom. Land on it, and they'll put hands on you, Mark. What's wrong with you, man?
Starting point is 02:19:25 Look, I was just, anyway. It's mama love. Let Frasier get some of that lick. Speaking about moms, you want to talk Jaden Daniels moms? Oh yeah. Jaden Daniels moms did the pivot. Shout out to Ryan Clark, friend of the show. And she expressed her position in cock blocking. Or just always being seen with her son while he trying to get his one two on a
Starting point is 02:19:50 lot of people were anxiously awaiting to hear her side of things and I love when podcasters go get the obscure interview that you know we wanted to notice but we wasn't gonna try to interview Jayden Daniels' mom. All right, here we go. Go, Ryan. Protecting Jayden from the wrong woman. Get in your bed, Ryan. So, first and foremost, and I have a meme out there, and it's funny, it's like, I can't laugh,
Starting point is 02:20:14 I can only laugh about it, but the whole girls' comment was made, first of all, to you, it was gonna be the LSU, And it was a question asked, like, what is your biggest fear? And that's every parent's biggest fear. That should be, if you're a star athlete and you're a female at WNBA, that should be your biggest fear is, you know,
Starting point is 02:20:35 the men or, you know, the women, because you're a public figure. And, you know, your dollar amount is associated with your name. So you never know who really is there for you and who's really against you. And our thing is, is like, I want Jay to date. I don't want everybody to say I'm putting it on record.
Starting point is 02:20:54 My son can date, he can live freely, makes his own decisions. However, the relationship we have, he does value my opinion because, you know, when my kids were little, I did a lot for them. So, and my kids saw that. My father, my background, I worked too hard to allow anybody at any moment to come in and just, you know, take it away. So, I have a view of what I feel a good person is. And, you know, but my son is 24 and he does have
Starting point is 02:21:24 to go through things and he has to learn on his own. And, you know, but my son is 24 and he does have to go through things and he has to learn on his own. And you know, he's a great kid and I'm thankful for him. He's, you know, not like some of these other guys, you know, he's really to himself. He's a homebody. He just really is, he's brilliant. He loves sports, like he really is.
Starting point is 02:21:42 So I'm trying to work on his afterlife after sports because at some point it does end. And I don't want him to just be like, now what do I do? So I want to keep him involved in the world and, you know, have opened up a lot of doors. Shut up, Cory. Like we're in charge of his foundations. You know, there's all, we're trying to build facilities and, you know, back in his hometown that are going to help the youth and things like that. So that's what I'm in charge of on top of his everyday business dealings and
Starting point is 02:22:09 Give her some grace. She's not a celebrity, she doesn't talk in soundbites. How we're positioning him and you know all this other stuff so it's not just about you guys seeing me out and thinking we're just like singing and partying. I mean. Okay. Give her some grace. She doesn't have media training, so she doesn't talk in sound bites.
Starting point is 02:22:30 It was a little long-winded, but she was trying to make a point. Yeah, and she made it. Maybe not the most succinctly way, but we got the point, did we not? What's the point? I didn't get the point. We did not.
Starting point is 02:22:43 She's trying to protect her son from gold digging hussies. That's're the point. She's she's she's trying to protect her son from Gold-digging hussies. That's the fuck she's making about herself. So same every mom says yeah, she's making it about self I mean, it's good to protect your son with when you start to say that I work so hard To avoid anyone I work too hard to prevent anyone from taking it from me like it's not yours is his number one number two Yes, a lot of parents do sacrifice a lot in order for you to become successful, whether it's work hard to pay a lot of money. You miss out. You know.
Starting point is 02:23:14 Sacrifice, but at the same time, parents like that, no disrespect to her, they make it about themselves a lot, about what they want for the child. And when you reach a certain age, that causes a lot of friction, contention, and later on, if a girl do come along, they're gonna exile you out of the situation.
Starting point is 02:23:30 So let me ask you guys. And then when they exile you, you're gonna be over there, somebody in Timbuktu stressed out, wondering what did I do wrong, instead of just giving them the space. Sometimes we can't protect our children from life, Mark. We can't. Sometimes you gotta let them bump their head.
Starting point is 02:23:45 I get it a little bit, be there, yo, hey, chill, but sometimes you have to, it's a give and take relationship, it should be. So let me ask you guys this. I wanna ask you guys this, because having children. I understand, man. Do you feel like your sacrifice deserves
Starting point is 02:24:01 to be rewarded? No. Yes. I don't, yes, no, not me. I would think... I feel like you sacrifice for your children in order for them to be better than you. Go ahead. The reward would be to whom?
Starting point is 02:24:15 Yeah. Okay, so I don't know their circumstances. I'm saying that you're moving or something. I know, I know, so I'm just drawing off of what I perceived from what she was saying. And it seems like she was saying that she worked very, very hard to provide for this young man, to provide opportunities for him to get to this stage in his life where he is a professional football player. So that's an enormous amount of circumstances
Starting point is 02:24:45 and choices that she had to make. And so now he's here to where he can now provide, he can probably be the provider for the family. And she's trying to protect him from life experience he may not have. And now that he's in the league, he's gonna get a whole lot of things thrown at him that he might not be prepared for.
Starting point is 02:25:07 My question was, reward for whom? For her or for him? The family? Yes, then I think it's wrong. I think that as a parent, the sacrifices that you make should be for your child to live a great life, the best life possible. But I don't necessarily think that you make should be for your child to live a great life the best possible But I don't necessarily think that you should be doing those things so that they could you could reap that that is a several
Starting point is 02:25:31 Does that your child live in a great life or being a productive member of society or whatever case may be? Yeah, she's his agent. Also that that's the reward. Oh, well if she's his agent as well Then she's doing double duty and trying to, like, you know, protect his wealth and future earnings. And the other side to that, yo, you say sometimes you gotta let your kids bump their heads and stuff. At the level he had, them head, the wrong head bump changes your entire life.
Starting point is 02:26:02 I understand. It's hard, yo. It ain't just a head bump. It's still. I understand. But it's hard. It ain't just a head bump. It's still hard because at some point you're going to have to let go of the reins. So I think that she not going to be there forever. And you mess around and get one of them snipers that we talk about.
Starting point is 02:26:19 That know how to just lay in the cut. Bruh, and they'll have him blocking his mom. Like from speaking to her, I think that you gotta kinda let, I think, from living with your mother to living on your own is a transition. And I think that that transition comes via college. That's why I'm an advocate of college sometimes, for the social piece more so than that part. So I think that as his mom and as his agent, it might be overkill.
Starting point is 02:26:49 Like, yo, have you seen me out and I'm with my mom 24-7? Well, the shaky ground is that, for me anyway, is that if you're trying to protect him to be a beneficiary yourself, aren't you just now becoming the person that you're trying to protect him from in a different sort of way? No, no, you cooking.
Starting point is 02:27:07 No, not you cooking. But that's why I asked you about, but see, I feel differently than Mel about it. You're right. Not that Mel, but what Mel asked was, you know, do you deserve part of it? I think the difference is the outsider doesn't deserve part of it.
Starting point is 02:27:16 I actually think the parent does deserve part of it. That's not, I couldn't disagree more with that. What, that the parent deserves some? What does the parent deserve? I don't see no deserving in there. Yeah. Deserve? If you are a single mom or a father,
Starting point is 02:27:30 and you raise your kid the whole life, and you go into Pop Warner, you're doing the weight training, you're taking it around the country, you're doing AAU, and they go pro and make $100 million, I'm not saying I would ask for it, but I do think I deserve it. You don't think you deserve any of that? So what happens if you do all that
Starting point is 02:27:44 and they become an accountant? I think I deserve the same thing, which is that they should do the best for me that they can. Now, if you're an accountant, then best thing might be a Father's Day gift, but if you've got $100 million, the best you could do for me is a little bit more. I think that-
Starting point is 02:28:02 You get what you raise. Yeah, I think if you raise- I think you get what you raise. I think if you raise your child a certain way then when they hit the lick, you just taking care of. I'm not speaking for them because I don't know their situation, but you don't have to... I also think there's only but so far your parent can take you professionally. I subscribe to that. I think that's generally true. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:28 He's one of the best quarterbacks in the world now. Mom, you did your job. Hey, you want to even negotiate the next contract? Cool. But there's something to be said for the parent being, if you want to be on that, the eye in the sky or the eye that's watching from afar, we consistently see her as the mother and the agent, two roles that we not used to seeing as much as we keep seeing her.
Starting point is 02:28:52 So I think that's- Let me see, we meet momagers. We've seen it with Lamar. We've seen it a lot with- Jackson. I think we've seen it more with artists too, actors, actresses, a lot of the dance moms, the managers, things like that.
Starting point is 02:29:01 But they're behind the scenes though. Not necessarily. And a lot of that shit goes around. That's just a Not necessarily. And a lot of that shit goes awry. That's just a good example. And a lot of them can only get you to a certain point. I mean, Matthew knows that Bessie got it. And then he didn't. You know, some professional.
Starting point is 02:29:14 And that's kind of the point. He did, he did all you could do, and now you hand your child to Quincy or a professional now to take your child with him. And we always have experience in this field. Cultivate the talent and not just be the parent that's babysitting. This is, y'all are bringing up all these instances
Starting point is 02:29:31 where we may see this. I've never seen it one and two. This instance is different because we keep seeing her in what we deem to be dating scenarios. Yes, this is the regular shit. This is not just a parent with their kid chilling. It ain't manager shit. It ain't agent shit. It ain't agent shit.
Starting point is 02:29:45 It's just like another telling point was, she says- You chaperoning, you shadowing. I think I know a good person. And if he like it, I love it. Right. But you don't, oh go ahead. She said, yo, I think I know a good person. When I see him, like, that's your discernment.
Starting point is 02:29:59 You might look at somebody and be like, yo, I think this young girl is a huzzy, and the girl could be the farthest thing from, or vice versa. You might look and say, yo, this, I think this young girl is the model individual and that young girl could have all negative intentions like, but it's his life. He might want the hussy and know she a hussy. And he might want his mom in it step by step with him. It's looking like that though. He may.
Starting point is 02:30:27 I feel like if he didn't want her around all the time, why would he have appointed her as his agent? And then also, well, so also, wait a year. No life outside of there. He'll know different. He don't even know anybody. This is a question because I don't know, as a sports agent, don't you have to have some kind of licensure?
Starting point is 02:30:46 You know yeah, but so was she an agent but as a manager you don't yes, and no so okay Because some people let attorneys represent them in all a contractual shit. Yeah, but that's still licensure Yeah, but you're still an attorney. I'm just saying like you can't just do it as the mom is a agent You can be a manager and make a deal though She yeah I'm just asking. He said like you can't just do it as the mom, as an agent, you can be a manager and make a deal. Let me see. She has a company with the lawyer. She, yeah. Yeah. Associated with the lawyer.
Starting point is 02:31:09 You gotta get a license, you gotta get a license. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. So, I mean, I don't, my thing is, I don't think the mom is the best choice either. And I think that separating from your mom as you become an adult is a good thing. Well, she's an NFLPA certified agent. Oh, well then that's, yeah. She has a master's degree in hospital administration and another one in entrepreneurial business.
Starting point is 02:31:30 Okay, so she did the work to become an agent. That's important. That counts. That does count. That's very important. So, that helps. I think the professional relationship should be separate than the social relationship. It doesn't negate the point, right, which is I think they should be separate for his
Starting point is 02:31:44 own growth and development. Because I think a mom has an interest in what the, I mean, for some of us, no woman is good enough for our mom, or no dude is good enough for our dads, or whatever, right? A manager has a particular interest, or a judge has a particular interest in protecting your interest financially, because you want the biggest check possible.
Starting point is 02:32:00 As a mom, you may have a different interest, and sometimes those things compete. And she said it. She said, yo, your social credit score affects your brand and affects your bag. She said that in what she was saying. I think as a mom, yo, I'm going to speak for myself. Fam, some of the bad relationships that I may have had, I learned from those relationships and they have me to be the individual that I am today.
Starting point is 02:32:24 So if I didn't go through those hurdles or I didn't go through that shit right there Well again you crying and you going through it and all that shit You might not be the individual that you are today your mother can't protect you from adversity adversity builds character the only thing I add to that though is I was gonna clap it up for that okay, no, no, no, no, no Just an agency if you're a big star, actor, football player, whatever, and you outside dating people that don't earn a good look, your agency's also gonna try and shut that shit down.
Starting point is 02:32:51 They'll tell you that too. And they're also gonna sit between you and the girl. You think they're not telling Anthony I was your my nigga, you gotta chill the fuck out? How about I say some niggas don't care? You think they're not telling him that? Yeah, I'm just saying, I don't wanna make some of the mobbies do some shit that other agents or agents don't do.
Starting point is 02:33:01 But your mother, You just can't stop her the same way. Have the influence, like, you know what I'm saying? She can't stop her to say have the influence like you know I'm saying You can't pick and choose who you date the agency might give you advice your dog you out here Wow, and you bugging the fuck out right you affecting your brand you affecting your bag Well the other thing an agency might have experience with these same women in a different level than the mom might You know like what she was he was chooses dating such and such from the jazz. I'm sure He was he was chooses dating such and such from the jazz. I'm sure
Starting point is 02:33:27 All of the yamis I'm at over that point that you made earlier There's a word for when the mom is acting like your girl. There's a word for that There's a word for when your mom may not have a boyfriend or somebody in her life And it's a little slow and now she just on your body and she can't take the separation from a child that she's been with All the time. I sacrifice my social life, I sacrifice my dating life and all of that shit to make sure that you did walk the straight and narrow. A lot of parents did that. Is that kind of like eatable? Right. The eatable complex kind of thing? Edipis. But like reverse sort of. It's different though. Ryan Clark kept letting her talk like uninterrupted.
Starting point is 02:34:06 And I think she was giving herself away in terms of talking about her son as strictly an investment. And we didn't hear enough about the, hey, that's my son. And he should get his own lived experience part. And I'm always here for him. But he should go right. I didn't even. Was she trying to talk as an agent? Was that the idea that she's speaking as an agent?
Starting point is 02:34:23 As opposed to as a mom? I think she was combining the two. She was toeing the line. Because agents are supposed to talk like that, moms. I get your point. She said, yo, I know good people when I see them. Huh? She was occupying both roles when she was speaking.
Starting point is 02:34:36 The longer that she spoke, you can hear both of her playing both roles. The dude that you are today in your relationship, right? If you didn't go through some of the tumultuous shit you've been through in past relationships, you wouldn't have the patience you have today, you wouldn't have the tolerance you have today, you wouldn't be the man that you are today
Starting point is 02:34:53 if you didn't endure that other shit, my nigga. That's real right. Adversity is definitely a teacher for anybody. So if you're trying to protect your kids from that, fam, as a boy, I can only speak for being, yo, you getting punched in your face? You learn something from that fam as a boy I can only speak for being yo you getting punched in your face that you learn something from that true you fighting at three o'clock my nigga let's take it up on the hill in the grass you learn some shit from that all of those things you know I'm saying that they have their lessons that come
Starting point is 02:35:17 along with those things but some some could argue the other side like if and again not speaking on their relationship I don't know anything about it but like a Jalen Green and Dreah, you know, somebody say if there was a mom there to prevent that, cause she could be looking at these types of shit. Who says his mom ain't there? No, I'm talking about Jayden Daniels' mom
Starting point is 02:35:37 could be looking at those situations and saying, like yeah, heartbreak, all of that teaches you things, but I'm not about to let my child Get groomed by somebody older who's looking at him as a lick because he's all this became all of this Don't live from the juju thing right yeah, but even that look they don't gotta be Heard to me they don't gotta be 40 years old to get you a lick We know some of the snipers out here in a 20s and 30s correct, but this this is my thing. I would rather my kids take bumps in their 20s than now when he 35 and he run into the Yami.
Starting point is 02:36:10 When he's 30, he run into the Yami. That was it. That was it, for sure. That was it. I mean, not really. She didn't say nothing. She made faces. Made a little face in the 30-year-old hotties.
Starting point is 02:36:21 I know he's a, you guys know, the 20-year-old snipers. Nothing, nevermind. Why you always trying to paint that picture? I'm not trying to paint any picture. Or make the faces that we can't see. Why you always trying to paint that little nasty picture? I'm not trying to paint any picture. I'm not trying to paint any picture. We're basically saying, we're saying the same thing.
Starting point is 02:36:43 Michelangelo. We're saying the same thing. She's trying to protect him from snipers in general. Not just older women in general. That's what she's trying to protect him from. When she finally let him loose, he ain't going to have that training. He ain't going to have that training. And guess what he has?
Starting point is 02:37:00 And guess what he has? DC. And guess what they do out there? It's like, choo choo. Go girl. DC's neighbor. Choo choo. Has he expressed anything about the criticism
Starting point is 02:37:12 that she receives from being around him constantly? What are you going to say? Yeah, my mom's going to be bugging. I haven't heard that. I mean, I don't know. Well, I mean, like, why? So if he had a problem with it, wouldn't he have tried to? We wouldn't know.
Starting point is 02:37:23 No. No, we wouldn't know. We wouldn't know. Especially not in this. You know how you'll know if you No, we wouldn't know. We wouldn't know. Especially that it's not gonna publicly You know how you'll know if you get to the agent, announce our mother. Not denounce, but just like not have her around as much. Like while he's in, from what I understand,
Starting point is 02:37:34 it's not that she's around, she's also around in social situations where he could be, you know, like almost like chaperoning dates. Jesus. Is she like heavily religious or something? Yes, they are. Well, he appears to be, you know, like almost like chaperoning dates. Jesus. Is she like heavily religious or something? Yes, they are. Well, he appears to be. He always is.
Starting point is 02:37:48 Because it could, you know, like, it's a real sex before marriage and all. Like, it could be. She could be pushing a lot on him, Paul. He popped something in college. She might know that nigga herb. That's the other thing. That's a good point.
Starting point is 02:38:01 That's the other thing. She might have seen him in action. She might have seen him for herself. Nah, I just keep my eye on you. I got you, kiddo. They're going to spank you. Yo, you can't. Listen, he like it.
Starting point is 02:38:11 I love it. Yeah, true. What's good for the goose? I'm looking forward to watching players here. It's a spin and a rinse in every washing machine, man. You're going to get spunked sooner or later. I'd rather them get spung when they young Yeah, one day you're gonna be sitting at a restaurant and don't pull gonna walk Melissa Ford
Starting point is 02:38:35 You got to make a decision mama or the Kenmore mama We're mama now. Here you go, baby. Here you go. Oh, I need boots on the ground. 200 million, you might burp them on your shoulder. Give me a little towel and put it right over there. That's your problem. That's why I got smoky in trouble.
Starting point is 02:38:58 That's your problem. That's how I talk to the towel. The towel got smoky, right? And we'll never paint that picture of you like you do to us. Oh my god, yes the fuck you do. Keep powers in them. Mmmmm. Mmmmm.
Starting point is 02:39:14 Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhiah. I need boots on the ground. We gotta be careful man. No comment. Yeah that's right. I'm your mama now. I was keep out. Is it as 30s now right? How does DaVinci?
Starting point is 02:39:34 So you do. Who? 29 I believe. Who is that? You knew that right off the cuff. I mean he said it. DaVinci. From BMF.
Starting point is 02:39:43 The dude that you said Melvin run around with. I was not. I mean he said it. Da Vinci. Da Vinci. From BMF. The dude that you said Melvin run around with. I was not, I interviewed him. You just said last week, I wish, was somebody said. I did, I mean. You sound like you were. Say something else, we'll read that text you put in the group chat. Say something else.
Starting point is 02:39:56 I'll read that shit right now. I'm talking to us like it's tough. I'll read that shit right now. We'll read that fucking text you put in our work group chat. I'll read that shit right now. You put this text in our work group chat. You was a senior when that nigga was on the bottom. I was trying to be helpful.
Starting point is 02:40:08 I bet. OK, I was trying to be helpful. When you was helping. To whom? That's not what you said. You was helping. That's your problem now. You be helping, anyway.
Starting point is 02:40:17 And you put a dance. The ultimate helper. And you put a dancing emoji. Yo, I knew everybody's face when they looked at that text Yo, I do want to take this time out to thank the Boston Celtics. Yes. What a run y'all have been on. This is one of my favorite collections of Celtics.
Starting point is 02:40:58 You know back in the day, you niggas was ultra white on your white boy shit. All these black people on the Celtics. It's a shame that we broke this team up. It's a shame that we will never see this group of Celtics together again. Sound like Triple H. Y'all think they keep the nucleus? I think that next season, what's the nucleus? I think that Brown and Tatum stay, of course. Derrick White.
Starting point is 02:41:26 Derrick White or Drew or Porzingis or Horford is out of there. I think next year their payroll is at $600 million for new owners. For new owners. No, I don't think that new owners are looking at that bill. I think Drew's gone. I think they keep Derrick White. I think Drew's gone. And I think even if you want to bring Hoerford back,
Starting point is 02:41:48 you can bring him at the veteran minimum. I think all of them look like fucking bodega bread in front of the NBA Clutch Player of the Year, Jalen Brunson. And I keep trying to get people to say his name with me, but they won't. Every time I try to get these niggas to say his name is Jalen Brunson, they decide to say something else
Starting point is 02:42:07 Jalen is putting on an absolute clinic out there. Go Knicks Garden was on fire. Yeah now the Celtics you had a good run G spin Don't feel bad my brother don't feel bad bad my ivory brother. It's over man. Sent them niggas packing in five games. Five of them. Nobody thought it could happen. Anyway man. So it's over. It's a good run Celtics.
Starting point is 02:42:36 Nixon five. Gentlemen sweet. Gentlemen, we're going to be gentlemen about it. We're going to be gentlemen about it. Even though the Knicks have not closed out a series on their home court in God knows how long. 25 years. It would be great.
Starting point is 02:42:51 Flip knows how long. So it would be great to do that in game six. But why play with them? Don't play with your. Hey, when we was kids, we played with our food. You know what I mean? I don't believe all that shit. As an adult, you finish your meal
Starting point is 02:43:05 Finish the breakfast more serious to come the fucking self Confident support after this who they play next most likely in the Indiana looks like the roof Indiana That's crazy. Whoever's next though. Whoever never want to jump on the plate the dinner plate next Hey, whether that be Cleveland Nimhar Tyrese Halliburton and the light-skinned ninjas over there hey whoever want to jump on this dinner plate next it's all good Nixon five also the second favorite to now win the NBA champ championship right behind the Thunder Vegas odds my brother I don't work there
Starting point is 02:43:44 my man hey I don't work there my I don't work there, my man. Hey, itch, I don't work there, my brother. He does not. That's a good thing. I'm just reporting to you what the Vegas odds is, man. It's cool, man. Y'all gonna work out Austin Reeves' contract and all that? He just on.
Starting point is 02:43:56 Y'all gonna work things out? He good. Y'all gonna bounce back? He good. I doubt it. Y'all gonna bounce back? We'll be on it. We talking about to Eastern Conference finalists
Starting point is 02:44:03 right now, though. Mute up. Not yet. Mute up for a minute. I mean, we're not talking about first round exits. I don't even talk, I want them to talk in basketball. Good, don't. That's all right. Don't.
Starting point is 02:44:14 You too, Philly Sixers man, mute up. I ain't got nothing to say. You niggas mute up. I ain't even talking to this. You niggas mute up when the Knicks is raw. I ain't got nothing to say. What'd you do with the Sixers ball? It's behind you.
Starting point is 02:44:24 Oh. I'm gonna throw that shit in the Hudson. Who that shit? Who that shit? Ever disrespect us out here. He flip snitched on me too. I was over there mumbling and shit like that. I didn't like it. Joe sold you out 10 seconds later.
Starting point is 02:44:40 He did. He's a traitor. But you know, hey, I do it for the team. What team? Mine, nigga. He did, he's a trader, but you know, hey, I do it for the team. What team? Mine, nigga. Oh, I gotcha, I gotcha. Delph. On Patreon, I'm gonna have a word with him on Shumpert. Hold on, hold on, oh, hey, hold on.
Starting point is 02:44:58 What type of word you ever want to shunt? See, now me and you about to end up having a word. I'm just asking you what type of word so I can get up and remove myself. Oh yeah, you gotta remove yourself. Nah, I can't do that. You gotta remove yourself. Can't talk to my man like that, not in front of me.
Starting point is 02:45:12 Cause I won't let a nigga do that to you. Oh then remove yourself. Nah, I'ma be here, nigga. I won't have what you guys say about my man. He's getting it. Based off of what? Imane Schumpert is getting it. And I may not say getting it, like I'm somebody.
Starting point is 02:45:25 That ain't what I'm trying to say. That's not what I'm trying to say. You have an opinion that you want to express about the latest headline. I mean, just how I'm- Which seems very foul. Yo, yo, if you my people and you introduce me to somebody or you now have kids with somebody or that's your people,
Starting point is 02:45:40 then I'm rolling with them just off the strength of you. The second that shit get awkward there when it's family shit I still shut up because it's family stuff. Family shit is family shit but once shit start getting too goofy and I got to read a headline saying that I'm on Chumpert once Tiana Taylor arrested. I don't agree with that. That sounds crazy. No, no, this is my home girl now. This is somebody I care about on a deeper level than music. And as a dad, I don't understand that. Somebody would have to explain that to me. Maybe I'm missing something as a parent.
Starting point is 02:46:16 I've been in some of the roughest co-parenting situations you could possibly be in. I never said I want her to go to jail and be in jail and then put my kids with Nana or with Grandma or let them come with me. What? That's wild. Yeah. That sounds crazy.
Starting point is 02:46:35 And the headline came out on Mother's Day. No. It was nuts. It was nuts. You had it. What happened to it? Yeah, I got it. Iman Shumpert has filed a court motion asking for Tiana Taylor to be found in criminal contempt of court
Starting point is 02:46:51 and send her to jail. In documents obtained by Complex, a motion filed by Shumpert and his legal team demands that Taylor be found in contempt for violating the terms of their divorce, claiming neither party could talk about the case. He's asking the court to fine her $1,000 and throw her in jail for 20 days. That's crazy. No, no. According to him, Taylor willfully and contemptuously exposed and broadcast specific provisions of the final judgment decree of divorce and related provisions, recklessly disregarding
Starting point is 02:47:18 the financial circumstances, privacy, safety, and securities of the parties and their minor children. And he added that Taylor's violation of their deal caused him financial loss and damage to his reputation, both personal and professional. See now, he gotta knock it, your dog, you have to knock it the fuck off. Amon Shumpert has been out of the league
Starting point is 02:47:38 for however many years, and that's not because of Teyana Taylor to our knowledge, to my knowledge, I'm speakin' for me. Like what the fuck is he talkin' about? It's nuts. Iman, this ain't keepin' it P dog, I ain't gonna hold you. This ain't keepin' it none of the letters. I hope it's not true.
Starting point is 02:47:58 I hope it's not true. I hope they lying on somebody's name. You sayin' you wanna see Tiana Taylor in jail? I don't, I don't, I don't you want to see Teyana Taylor in jail? I don't think. What if she did cost him some money though? I'm just, I'm just for the conversation. What if she did do something that cost him something? Can we go back to the beginning where she tried
Starting point is 02:48:15 to keep the whole thing under wraps and he and his team is the one that. Yeah, they didn't want everything filed under initials. You had to use the names. Exactly. So he's the one that broadcasts to the world that their shit was fucking falling apart. So it's just, it's so ironic that this is exactly what he's trying to accuse her of doing.
Starting point is 02:48:34 Dog, niggas didn't know Tiana, no shame, we know Internet Games. That part, too. Tiana Taylor's not, we know Internet Games. She's not that, she know Internet Games. And if you start playing Internet Games, yo dog, niggas is niggas. So you know that you know your partner buttons and what's going to steer them off of a cliff. So if you know that your wife don't play or your ex or whatever they are don't play no internet games and you play them every chance you get. I don't respect it. I don't respect it. And
Starting point is 02:48:56 after the terms came out or they split the divorce niggas was like oh shit. He did alright. Yes. Niggas was bigging them up. niggas. He did all right. Like, yes, niggas was bigging him up. Why would you want to see Tiana Taylor in jail fresh off of the Met Gala? You know what? He wanted the cops to come to the Met and get this. Now, I know how it is when you see your ass shining, niggas. I get it, but you cannot do that.
Starting point is 02:49:24 I don't agree with that, yeah, he can't do that. That shit hurt. And I don't know if he got somebody in his ear to say this or it's corny to say this, but this ain't it, this ain't it, dog. This is hard, and she, people that's usually private like that, they take it hard when you try to do things like that, if you understand what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:49:42 It weighs on her because she moves smooth. She's not with none of that, she's not with putting the family out there, she's not with outing him, she's not with trying to make him look a certain way, she just want things to move on, let's say, amicably. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:49:56 But not only that, they have children together. They do have children, and they have children also. This is, to me- Dog, I put you on my album. He's on Tiana Taylor's album rapping. Rapping! Yeah, I put you on my album. He's on Tiana Taylor's album rapping. Rapping. Yeah, I understand. Now, who the fuck was looking for Iman Chumpert rapping?
Starting point is 02:50:14 She was making calls. Yo, my boo has a mixtape or some shit coming out. The television show, I have to assume that that was off the Strip. What are you doing. What are you doing? What are you doing? No, I'm leaving this show was on the strip for her too though. What that mean? What do you mean? No, the shot. They killed them off the show from some information that I've heard. I'm talking about the reality show. Oh, I'm
Starting point is 02:50:42 talking about the TV, the shot that he was on. I'm just saying he was a character. I said, what if she cost him some bread? He was a character on the shy. For a couple seasons. A continuous character. Yes, a continuous character. And when the news came out about what they were starting to go through, call it irony if you want,
Starting point is 02:51:00 he got killed off that season. Again, who is the one that put their business on front street he only has himself to thank for all the door cuz all it is with a state under wrap listen and who's to say that she didn't lose any fucking income because of all of like the bad press I'm saying that I'm sure there was income loss when when power couples or people that you deem to be a power couple split somebody's gonna lose some money somewhere. I can't speak to the rumors that you're talking about because I don't watch the shot.
Starting point is 02:51:30 But I know when Amon killed Dancing with the Stars, they wasn't together and she was the biggest cheerleader publicly. That's a fact. We actually shouted her out for it. I know, hey, I'll do you one better. I'll take it a step further, Big Freeze. No, seriously, when the rumor came out better. I'll take it a step further, Big Freeze. When, no seriously, when the rumor came out
Starting point is 02:51:49 that he was cheating and sleeping and sucking and fucking, the first one to his defense. Was her. Was her. Yeah, not gonna get in between me and my best friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you want that woman in jail? Locked up, it's crazy. Please, you can't make that make sense for me no hey niggas die to
Starting point is 02:52:10 have a baby mama like that step out of them solid even when we might not be the best she rumors my name yo that's my homie we're not doing that we friends y'all not gonna divide us I support him mind y'all not going to divide us. I support him. Mind y'all business. What? Come on man. Stop playing. Stop playing tomorrow. Come on. That's all I got. I want to drag that. I want to save for Patreon. Because I want to put it on the main and start getting folk. But fuck that. I feel about it. I feel about it. If I see a headline tomorrow to save one of my ice free, we want our baby mom. If you see something for me to say yo Joe button one baby mom locked up somebody check on me. It's a problem
Starting point is 02:52:50 I don't care what level we are. I'm gonna stick. Yeah, that is sick. That is sick Yeah, I'm gonna get at you don't feed don't get at me pick a side. You just told me cuz you told me that I'm down for the pick a side and I you just told me, cause she told me that. She told me that. I'm down for the pick a side Olympics. Don't do that to me nigga. I'm in the pick a side Olympics and have zero problem picking a side, especially when I love one person more than the other. So Flip, she asked you to pick a side? She said what he just said.
Starting point is 02:53:17 You can't be neutral in this situation. She said that he is hurt, he is doing some shit Flip, that's hurting me. If you care about him, you should call him and check on him because file is file. Nigga, you and check on him because file is file. Nigga, you call me your sister, file is file.
Starting point is 02:53:28 Nigga, you need to check him and say that. And I called him. You know what I'm saying? And I told him and he just said the shit that you not read to somebody, that shit ain't true. But that's just me being wiffily obtuse, I guess. You want to believe the best about your people. Yeah, I don't want to hear that.
Starting point is 02:53:43 That shit hurt my heart just now. You see, I just think that shit fucked my world up because I know how strong she keeps it. She doesn't believe in that she's not with all that. Like Joe said, she's a wonderful person. She don't believe in blasting niggas. So for him to do that, that shit hurt me. That shit fucked up.
Starting point is 02:54:01 Now what I will say about Tiana, that little video she made saying, I just want to get my back blown out in peace, that probably didn't. That probably didn't. Massage the situation is all I'm gonna say. And that's it. Other than that, Tiana, I love you. Amon, come on, dog.
Starting point is 02:54:22 Come on, dog. I don't have anything else. I don't have anything else that is important, unimportant. Is you guys on? No. Why you making that face? What happened? I'm chilling. Why your foot about to fall off? One more. I'm chilling.
Starting point is 02:54:32 Nigga, the whole New Balance attire, nigga. NB socks. Yo, get off my socks. Ishmael, you lost a lot of weight. Let's send you a package. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that.
Starting point is 02:54:40 I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. NB socks. Yo, get off my socks. Hey, hey, hey. Ishmael, you lost a lot of weight. Let's send you a package. So you can balance your life out.
Starting point is 02:54:51 New Balance, look at you, you look good, boy. I'm gonna get down to the bottom. There's a big Sean, Abso, Joey Badass, Red Bull freestyle rolling around. It's six minutes long. I listened to Sean and a little bit of soul. I haven't heard the rest, but from what I heard heard sounds like fire. They say Joey was firing on daylight and then rain for an ad Let's listen to it talk about a picture
Starting point is 02:55:14 Think they're in the studio doing it together Yeah, it was like a it's like a shot of it like a cypher type of live See and that's why I can't fall for rap beef because when monster or Red Bull call with a check you gonna stand next to the digger But I do want here yeah, I want to hear her they go crazy Dan could Joey bad-ass rap better than that song no no no disrespectfully No Alright, so on patreon we'll get to that It's a lot of good music out there right now.
Starting point is 02:55:48 Why are you looking at my computer? I'm not looking at your computer. Why are you looking at my computer? I'm not. Why are you looking at my computer? I'm not looking at your computer. Scooby-Doo. There is a lot of good music out there,
Starting point is 02:55:57 some of which I'll talk about on Patreon. Shout out to the Patronis. I'm gonna play a record that I have been playing since Friday, since it dropped. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie to y'all First of all, I'm a sucker for anything that sounds like Prince with the Prince music in the background and the chords But this Mariah the scientist burning blue record. I Heard it on Instagram Mm-hmm. I heard it on Instagram
Starting point is 02:56:27 It hit. I heard it on Instagram. It's crazy. I almost really ain't played nothing else since this record dropped. Mariah the Scientist, Burning Blue. Let's do it. Oh my god, come on stop playing with her Stop playing with her I got that blue fever Cold as ice till you can't hear You're like another fire breathing creature But it don't burn how it appears It's true you could make me melt But don't you forget it if the person you fell for ever do For reasons, it's only because you ain't here
Starting point is 02:57:12 I can't feel it in the air, I wanna lose it Tripping everywhere, I'm all wet I don't even care as long as you're with me Playing in my bed, I'm falling Whatever you say, I wanted I couldn't care less as long as you're true leader Another blast from Mr. Pleasure If you're open-minded then it's treason
Starting point is 02:57:55 And I decide to go out swinging If you shoot then you can take Every single dollar and your last few cents Then I will too, and I mean it Tell me where do we go from here I can't, really, really get my clothes wet Drippin' everywhere I'm on it I don't need to care as long as you're
Starting point is 02:58:30 On it, yeah Playing in my bed, I'm falling, yeah Whatever you say, I'm on it I couldn't care less as long as you're burning blue, burning blue I'm burning blue, I'm burning blue Oh Playing everything I could, yeah Whatever you said I want I can't get it to go on Yeah, it's your heart Brand new variety of scientists, that record is called Burning Blue. Absolutely flames.
Starting point is 02:59:47 This is crazy. Major League Baseball has just reinstated Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson. Fire. I mean, good, but trash. Wow. Pete Rose should have been in it. So that's fire to me. Wow.
Starting point is 03:00:11 Baseball suck monkey balls. Why is it fire they wait till we're there to do it? I mean, I'm just saying the fact that it's still done now, it's accoladed, Hall of Fame, all that type of shit. Even though he's dead. So what? Not so what, but he's dead, better late than never, never I guess so you'd rather just not do it at all leave it the way it was he don't know it got done I mean maybe it was great family and great
Starting point is 03:00:35 that you are finally doing the right thing here it's a shame that he's rose couldn't be alive to see that and listen and I'm still okay when they say fix Barry bonds indeed yeah fix Barry bonds up do that I agree you want to do something mm-hmm anyway rest in peace Pete Rose yes rest in peace and congrats and congrats it I'm gonna go to West Coast on this one I've had this record for a couple weeks I've been wanting to play it, but this is called Unsung Heroes by Snoop. He is dropping a new album called Is It a Crime? And should be out this week, probably tomorrow.
Starting point is 03:01:14 But the record's called Unsung Heroes. ["Unsung Heroes"] It's been a long time I shouldn't have left you without some hood shit to step to when you act nice. That's when they disrespect you Come sit down with your uncle. Let me say that you now feel me. Let me holler at you my nigga Gang members lifting weights in the front yard life's a game of space better keep a trunk on You ain't used to hell's kitchen get the hell out me and Dre at the sofa the only way I sell out never
Starting point is 03:01:49 I know I say a lot of shit be patient a lot of knee-jerk reactions false information fuck that I'm at the house on the PlayStation dancing with these dead presidents the ribbon operation too many niggas playing with my reputation to step on our turf you need an invitation No conversation, that's just how we live First watch was a flavor, flay, pop You know what time it is, time's up 21 gun salute to my lieutenants This that west coast flow that I invented Some advice to my young niggas tryna get it Don't never let rap beat affect your business School or hardlux, we don't do the academics
Starting point is 03:02:25 Nah, that ain't a shot You know how dogs get when the moon rocks Hood niggas still eating moon pie Mama must've raised the fucking hell raiser Keep that lighter fluid, I'ma trailblazer Yeah cuz he got that sticker Triple OG, focused on these zeros This the perfect song for the unsung heroes Dare a nigga to whack out my face on a mirror With sharpening arrows, baptizing pharaohs Shoot for the stars, you know who in charge I eat with the gods, just get throwed
Starting point is 03:02:53 I put my mic in these bars It's kinda hard to compare it From the fashion to the lyrics Wanna carry out God's plan? You gotta have a kindred spirit Point blank period I know you hear it Bang bang boogie, say upjump the boogie to the bang bang boogie
Starting point is 03:03:08 Say upjump the boogie now this shit is timeless Long beach finest show me Mount Everest my nigga I'm tryna climb it Bang bang boogie say upjump the boogie to the bang bang boogie Say upjump the boogie now we keep shining All bloke dynas please rewind this nigga song behind this Nuff said, all blue diamonds, plates with whiteness, niggas know who behind this. Enough said, all blue, all red. And that record is Unsung Heroes, again by Snoop, off of upcoming album Is It a Crime?
Starting point is 03:03:36 Why you driving so many albums? Independent, independent now. Same way a lot of these other niggas doing, I could drop out every month. A lot of these independent casts, it's getting them out there. I'm not gonna hit Billboard, I'm not gonna do 100,000.
Starting point is 03:03:50 But you mean he independent though? Snoop owns Def R. He own Def R. Yeah, but it's my label, so I'm independent. I gotta deal with Gamma and I'm just dropping. Gotcha. And whatever I feel like. He went back and got the Eastsiders, Dog Pound,
Starting point is 03:04:02 did a gospel album. Both of those albums. Yeah. I'm going to DC, this is my man Ben Kenobi, it's from Short and Sweet, it's Smoke. If you believe in public, see that for us. If you believe truly that black men are started, stay out of our way.
Starting point is 03:04:17 We are beastly, we are god, but we don't kiss. Ain't no honor in this game no more. Since they killed Trayvon, this shit ain't been the same no more. Sacrificial lamb, it opened portals to the ain't no honor in this game no more Since they killed Trayvon this shit ain't been the same no more Sacrificial lamb it opened portals to they ain't no more Visits from the dam see I don't even want the fame no more Too many wicked men had to cross the burning sands Fire in my hands like Shrakajima in Japan I get as lethal as you can Not too many understand
Starting point is 03:04:41 The pressure it demands to match the evil of the clan I'm trying to free my fellow man Just like Egypt, they tried lockers, niggas in the slam Tell a man named Moses, party, seize with a stamp It was brought back as Kenobi, part you niggas with the craft And when the spirit taking over sparked you niggas with the rap My man hit my line, he said, my nigga, what's the plan? At first we need they trust, that mean we gotta build a brand Playing on the internet and posting on the gram
Starting point is 03:05:07 If the machines think we safe, they gon' treat us like we fam They gon' spread us to the fans, putin' power in our hands And then it's like the spook, we flip the switch on niggas fast Build militias in the trap, just like Move, then we strap Yellin' Move, bitch, we black, this a Moose Shear'd attack Again, that has Ben Kenobi, Smoke, off his project Up in Smoke, which is fire I'm going to T.A. Thomas, the song is called Devotion I got a question, do you pray for me at night? Is your devotion to me, is it wide as open sea? How deep is your love?
Starting point is 03:06:06 How deep, how deep? How long have you been waiting? Yeah, waiting up for me I wanna know what goes with your mind And by the last thing I'm gonna win I wanna know, I wanna know Girls, the number one thing I wake up in the morning Is the first thing I get from love
Starting point is 03:06:36 I wanna know, just wanna know If we could get even, would you let me? I wanna hear your choir singing praises to me Why the hell did you play in with me? A sprinkler of tears up your spine, leave you tracing Day dreaming baby, I've thought of you staying up with me I wanna know if you're gonna sleep at night By the last thing on your mind
Starting point is 03:07:17 I wanna know, I wanna know Girls, they never know that I'm fighting for the first thing I ever do I wanna know Just wanna know I wanna know Girl, I'm a stranger Girl, the last thing on your mind I wanna know I wanna know, I wanna know
Starting point is 03:07:49 Just wanna know, I wanna know Just wanna know, I wanna know Just wanna know, I wanna know Just wanna know That's what I'm looking for That's what I'm looking for That's what I'm looking for You icy bitch That is T.A. Thomas, Devotion That is T.A. Thomas, Devotion A Bop, Melissa Ford Yes Mine is called
Starting point is 03:08:18 Wakande By Anike Before we play it though, did you hear what it's played? It was fire. Did you have your headphones on? Stop trying to fucking instigate shit. It was fire, I said it was fire.
Starting point is 03:08:33 What? I'm just asking. Don't touch my food. Huh? Yes, you can have a fry. You're looking at my dollar, I'm taking four. You can take four. You can take five.
Starting point is 03:08:42 Any who's. Wakande. Wakande by Kanye. Kanye. Oh yeah, that's my law, eh? No, no We here about it, Miss Barbie, baby No, no No, no Ain't no wonder, to a dead man It's that freedom, I'ma lead him
Starting point is 03:09:16 To the one that read my skull Send it, Stephen once believed that I was really in control Wasn't even, I was reading, but still that is, I don't know God done flipped my story out white Till I get them stereotypes Won't, uh, aim really came on me I ain't nothing but just a frame on me Rolls on the bottom, put the strain on me
Starting point is 03:09:32 Bound pain on me, overcame all these, okay I'm out with the train, I'm free, won't fall I ain't trippin' when they stay around me, they lost You the one that throw shade on me Cause the shade on me, put the shades on me, okay Oluwati with me, oh ya joke with me Oh ya pakomo, Oya jekalo Oluwati with me, Oya joke with me Oya pakamo, Oya jekalo
Starting point is 03:09:53 Here we go, let em know See the ceiling, that's the flow Here we go, take the trouble O you see the squad, you gon' know Ain't gonna, I'm gonna rise to the, ain't gonna stop I'm gonna rise to the, ain't gonna stop I'm gonna rise to the top, ain't no stopping me, ain't no blocking me I just gotta be me, I am proud to be me Got my squad around me, I can go to ground me Fits my pride in my seat, yeah You know that's what that
Starting point is 03:10:27 Real women on the map, really We just get it started Where I'm headed, it's a wrap, ayy Here we go, here we go, yeah, no, no See the ceiling, that's the flow, yeah Here we go, here we go, take the trouble, yeah When you see the squad, you gon' know, yeah, yeah All the watchers with me, all y'all just with me The queens are here. I did what I did, man. It's hard time now.
Starting point is 03:10:59 That's Wakande by Anike. My apologies if I messed up any of that pronunciation. Nah, that was boppy. Yeah, that was tough. Super boppy. That was tough. Mark? I didn't have one. I said I didn't have a sleeper. Oh, okay. He's been sleeping. Yeah, he's sleepy. Yeah. I told y'all, around halfway through the day. I'm gonna so many missed the PhD man over there. You're about 5.30? Yo man, who you been hanging out with? I'm about to reach out.
Starting point is 03:11:30 Da Vinci nigga. Da Vinci got you playing some shit. He been, girl. That just can't be a song that I select on my own. Girl, you listen to Cher still. You listen to Sonny, and y'all, Sonny and Cher. Sonny. Girl, fuck out of here.
Starting point is 03:11:47 Sonny got the new slaps? Yeah. You stupid, yo. I happen to find that one on my own. Thank you very much. Shout out to you, man. That was fire. Give me your pound.
Starting point is 03:11:55 Great. Yo, if you listening from Boston, your club's closing one. That's an idiot, yo. You listening from Boston? Do they really? I don't know Oh Early earlier than us early. I don't know why they everybody close earlier than most of us
Starting point is 03:12:16 Shouts of Middle East we had a lot of good times out there Facts a lot of good shows out there Middle East. I know a lot of good people out in Boston Well, fuck all that right now your Fuck back fuck all that right now man. Hey listen anybody listening from Boston If you know what I can do with my game six tickets Because it looks like it looks like we won't be needing those Should I make content out of them like burn it like the LeBron Jersey when he went to Miami? Cause it looks like we won't be needing those. Should I make content out of them?
Starting point is 03:12:46 Like burn it like the LeBron Jersey when he went to Miami? I hope J.L.E. get y'all 50. Hey bro, I'ma tell you like this. I don't want to hear a thing son if they come back and won the series. No, no, I want to hear a whole bunch of shit. I want to hear apologies.
Starting point is 03:13:00 The odds are not, no the odds are not in their favor. No, cause you'll start doing it. The odds, the evens. Nothing is in their favor. No because you'll start doing the odds the evens None of them if Tatum didn't get hurt and I would entertain that okay, but again we want Tatum to get well soon Yes, oh, I'll pray for a place that Achilles man Play some these Celtic niggas could relate to, man. The beautiful part, Boston people, is like, what is your favorite fish? They up there in New England.
Starting point is 03:13:54 Listen, some catfish, whiting. Come on, you know I only know two fish. Morgan's bass, Salmon's soup, cod. Cod! You know Tilapia? Oh shit. Good job playing me. Good job. I do know Tilapia though. I know you do.
Starting point is 03:14:21 Sounds right. That's the extent of my fish knowledge. You had some Chilean sea bass? I had that. Oh, wait, what's my other shit to start with a B? Bronzino. Bronzino. Hey, Bronzino.
Starting point is 03:14:35 All right, I know four fishes. Fishes. Yeah, you know some snapper, some salmon. Salmon count? Salmon I agree. Salmon counts? Salmon's fish. Salmon is a fish. I'm at 7 Fish. I'm at 7 Fish.
Starting point is 03:14:53 Yo, keep up to your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there until the next time. We bid you adieu, farewell, adios, arriba, derci, hasta, la vista, au revoir, so long, goodbye or simple head nod will suffice. Remember life is a series of moments and moments pass, so let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel
Starting point is 03:15:22 and the closed minded women want you to teach them things Grab you a town and all The funniest part about Mel saying she want to know the boots on the ground dance Is it's not a tough dance. What part is it that you're having trouble with? I don't know if I can flick the fan like that. We'll have to see. I don't know. I just ordered a fan. Oh you wanna do a TikTok?
Starting point is 03:16:01 You fuck with the young niggas mad, oh they call me a camel But I'm nasty to drought, what the fuck I'm an animal Half man, half mammal, my son is a sag This is just what I plan to do, oh don't be mad Anybody doing anything fun this week? Anybody got any plans that they're excited about that they want to share with their audience or that we can exploit for entertainment purposes?
Starting point is 03:16:43 Just going outside Yeah, just working Going. one of the boys birthday is this weekend so I'll be doing family shit. it's daytwan's birthday this week. alright on the wall already I'm a worker on I'm a wall haul already on another level on another plane already HOP I got my own lane on the way. yo y'all are are down out there hopefully you enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you We'll be back this weekend same time same place And I am nigga, I'm already home already Already If y'all can already see, I ain't worried about y'all Cause I already need you Do you already? Enough with the complaining boo-hoo's already
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