The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 830 | "Stupid Seeds Grow Stupid Plants" (feat. Jozzy)

Episode Date: May 31, 2025

The latest episode of the JBP kicks off with QueenzFlip’s thoughts on the new HBO documentary ‘Pee-wee as Himself’ (28:57) before the room turns to Offset demanding spousal support in a new divorce case filing (37:25). In new music Clipse drops a single for their upcoming album ‘Let God Sort Em Out’ (1:09:46), Donald Trump is continuing to pardon people (1:23:10), and Tory Lanez legal team continues to push for his freedom (1:35:45). Also, Memphis’ own singer/songwriter Jozzy joins the crew (1:54:25) to talk about her new music and her early love for Melyssa Ford, leaving P. Diddy’s label, her inspirations, the need for songwriters, ‘StagePlay 2 Get Her Back’, and much more!  Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden 

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Take the sickness out of the nigga body. Pause. That was a hard situation. Take the sickness out your mouth. That's the body. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Same, that's worse. Don't mention my mouth. But that's worse though. Take the sickness out your body. I'm going to do that ish.

I said you cannot do that. You said how do I make up getting y'all sick? Audience, Ice and Ish are saying that I got them sick. You did. When I came in here last part sick. I said it on Tuesday, didn't I? Now, in their defense, they right. I shouldn't have been here.

Flip told me I shouldn't have been here, but I love the job so much, man. It's my dedication. It's my gift and a curse sometimes. And you cursed me out. Yeah, yeah. You said that some fly shit to me too. I ain't like that. Your tone, it don't be what you say, you be right, but your tone

when you speak to niggas, you can't talk to me like that. I didn't mean to, man. I'm just saying your brother. Hot kettle. Yo, Flip is you. Right. Right. What the fuck, bro? I Kettle He's gonna make a joke about how I can't be here They misrepresent me I'll never talk to y'all in no type of way In real life you we was that recording in real life, I'm saying yes Joe me and you have had these arguments that we have recording in real life, I'm saying. Yes. Yes. Joe, me and you have had these arguments

that we have here in real life, based on your mouth. I don't talk. I don't. Yo, you back that mouth again. I said pause. I don't speak to you in a way or ice where I feel like one of y'all should do something to me. You know what the most important thing you said

to that was? He talked to me in a way where. Where you feel. He ain't feel like that neither. How many times you wanna punch me in my face just when I say something to you in real life? At least 50% of the time, right? So you want to punch me in my face when I talk?

Um, a little bit, but no, I don't think so. That's what I'm saying. Freeze. Sparks. Not in real life. You get crazy. I ain't going to lie off the mouth balls. I just told you to get out of here.

You got some big brother shit with Flip though. In real life or no? In real life. You don't want to hear it from him. No, I'm saying. Flip does that told you to get it. You got some big brother shit with Flip though. In real life or no? In real life. You don't want to hear it from him. No, I'm saying, Flip does that to you in real life or no?

Yes. Yes. Because I've never been around y'all. It's their dynamic though. It is. It's a big brother little brother. It is. No, Flip is Joe.

You think I'd be trying to big bro Flip? I don't think you'd try to big bro him. I just think that y'all have like that that big brother little brother thing where if he Says some shit to you. It's like that shut the fuck up and he barks back It's it feels very simple, you know what they play with me too much He told me this in the beginning of the year as far as the power thing The power dynamic you're gonna lose in me and I think that plays into his mind I was simply telling him yo, we are happy here. Just go so we can handle it.

Mark is here, let's handle it. He tells me about how he fly and how his presence being here is more important than him being single, right? I'm a star, I'm a star. I'm like, wait. Yo, Red. I'm a star.

You bought, I, I, I. No, I wasn't on camera. Podcasting for Red. Oh. That wasn't on camera? No. I thought that's why you took it down. So then that go against your point. Cause if it's not on camera, then that was real life. That's what I'm casting for writing. That was on camera? No. I thought that's what you're doing now. So then that go against your point.

Cause if it's not on camera, then that was real life. That's what I'm saying. He talked to me in real life. No, what you said to him was real life. But he had already said it off. What are you talking about? That's what I'm saying. That was a response.

That was a response. I got it. I got it. I accept that. Pause is like, oh. Shit. I froze. I saidauze is like, oh shit. I froze, I said, oh this nigga took it. In my head, I'm like, this nigga took it.

I saw you, I saw you process it. I did, yeah, yeah, yeah. I could fire back, but I'ma chill, I'ma chill. This nigga took it crazy. But why fire back? He asked me a question, audience, I promise we started soon. He asked me a question, I answered it, I felt like. Yeah, but sometimes when you answer things you do.

And then Mel, Mel don't know how to read, no room where so she jump in that's a bad fucking swing. I absolutely read the room And I was swinging absolutely get the fuck out you're sick do you think that that's wise I can't be the only adult up here all the time. I want to be a kid sometimes. Fuck that. She don't get the wise one. You got those. Exactly. Mel, I love you.

Ice, Flip, I apologize for speaking to you that way. Thank you. Flip and Ish. Ice and Ish. I apologize for speaking to you that way. Thank you. Flip and Ish. Ice and Ish. I mean, Ice and Ish, I apologize for getting y'all sick and if there's anything I can do to make it up or make it better, Zaddy. Y'all. I knew it was gonna be you.

You still in train looking up at me, you know you went too far. Word. You can't help us. Oh yeah, my son is here, Let's not play it around, man. All right. Damn. No, if I can make it up to y'all anyway, please, I will.

You can give him some emergencies. I dumped them shits already in my tea. I stopped at Starbucks. Yo, you should go home while you're here. Because I'm a star. That was some bullshit. He was on bullshit. Yo, he was on bullshit.

I couldn't believe he'd say, quiet. It's more voice. I'm like this. No, yeah,. I couldn't believe he said, quiet, it's more boys. No, yeah, no, yeah. No, he went off. He went off a little bit. You know what you can do for them? And we'll just let you know. What, big mouth?

I mean, you could order them some juices and stuff like that. Some immunity shots, ginger shots. Yeah, don't promote nobody here. I'm not seeing it, no. I'm not seeing it, no. I just happened to know a guy who was on a diet. I'm not seeing it, no. I'm not seeing it, no. I'm not seeing it, no. I'm not seeing it, no. I'm not seeing it, no. juices and stuff like that some like immunity shots ginger My home girl, the Ivy Queen, she's right up the shot.

I was at the Tank show and he's putting something out. Oh man. That was dope. Alright, was it showed up? Yeah, it was, oh my god, it was incredible. So Hell's Kitchen is on Broadway, it's Alicia Keys. Thanks for the invite. Yeah, that's true.

I literally told you. I thought you were going. Which is not true. And you said you were already going. Y'all have a relationship with Tank. He was ready to give y'all tickets. I just took advantage of the invitation from Tank. So you don't know what invite means?

We literally had the conversation. All right, listen, carry on. We had the fucking conversation. I think that dog balance shoot is whack, carry on. Don't play with me. I literally told you the day I was going, you're like, yeah, I think I'm gonna pull up. And that's different from an invite.

It was basic. You know, I'm not talking to you anymore, fuck that. Hell's Kitchen, Tank is now playing Alicia Keys' father. He fucking bodied it. He was so fucking good. I'm not surprised. He was so good, he was so funny and I could tell when he was ad-libbing and it just worked perfectly. The show is incredible. It was my second time seeing it. If you haven't seen it, go see it. But his run ends on June 1st. Yeah. So I don't know if I'll

make it. I was at the Beyonce show while you were doing that which was also absolutely phenomenal I encourage anybody who hasn't seen Beyonce is my first time seeing her live It you should go It showed me having just been to the Kendrick SZA Stadium tour that there's levels to the Stadium tour shit What you wore dog What did I wear? You went out there with the cowboy shit on? No, fuck no. Fuck. Did you just say you didn't have chaps on?

No. You were like, Billy Bob Orton, I'm going to roast you. If I would have had cowboy clothes, I would have worn. I'm going to roast you, y'all. But it was pouring, and it was freezing. So it wouldn't matter what I wore anyway. You were going to look like shit. You were out there at the show with All the Rays.

Yeah. Like, it was pouring out there. out pouring. I was shocked that she continued I was that Wednesday the car shit in the rain. They did yo I was so amazed they had like the mop guys like they have at the garden hitting the hitting the deck every two seconds They did full choreo They did the flying in the fucking horseshoe over the crowd all that shit pouring rain and that's a performance She still looked absolutely amazing, by the way, somehow, like despite being completely drenched.

I don't know what the fuck kind of voodoo was going on there. But when has being completely drenched made someone not look amazing? I mean, it could easily. As a woman. Cold and rain, like, it's a different. It's not like being in the pool in a tropical thing. So she's an actual performer.

She's incredible. Incredible. And with all the choreo that they do? Yeah. Her dancers were fire. Blue was fire. In the rain. Yeah.

You ever catch a girl that didn't want to be out in the rain, and y'all end up in the rain, you see her melt back down there? And she's like, right in front of you. Beyonce did not melt. See that hair gets stressed. Some of them look good when that hair get all. The fizzy. The fizzing.

The eye shadow start doing like the old cats Broadway logo. Anyway, I'm glad you had a good time. Yeah, it was incredible. She's so good at her branding I guess for lack of a better term. Like she speaks to who she speaks to the way she wants to speak to them and it's incredible. Absolutely incredible. All all the production the videos She was doing all the History of black music especially like some country shit. It was it was incredible She sang the star-spangled banner and went into freedom. She did the over the Jimi Hendrix shit

But like saying it note for note with Jimmy and then Incredible levels to that sure is levels It was incredible. It was levels to that shit. It was levels. That's why, yo, all these still. Full band, she had the band, like you could see the band, you know what I'm saying? Oh man.

All these, like hearing that, just got me ready for when Chris do a stadium tour, bro. Word. Because you speak of performers and levels. Oh yeah, that's true. Chris will probably show up. He just put this shit on Instagram, say, yo, the set list is 50 songs, by the way.

The Beyonce show was long. It was like three hours. It was not a short show Ain't nothing else to do you get locked up in England for a week I'm trying to go see that shit in London 100%. What? Nah, I'm trying to go see that shit in London. Oh, you go to London too? In a national age.

Call your fucking cousin, man. I don't know that name. But introduce yourself. How? Call an uncle or something. Somebody? It would have to be a mutual family member to do that. I'm not calling.

That's what I'm saying. You got those though. Who? Yo, call, nigga. All right, in my family, that's Aunt Madley. Hey Aunt Madley. No, Aunt Catherine is a big dog. But Aunt Madley will put some shit together And my family that's uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh There you go. I don't be on that type shit, man. I don't care about that. It's just too cool. If he was 5% entertaining, this nigga would be. I'm telling you, his life and how he speak

and how he carry, he just had 2% of the entertainment bone. Oh my God, he would be outta here. Yo, you a fool. Jesus. This nigga's as entertaining as just- Yo, you wouldn't do that. He be outta here. Yo, you a fool. Jesus. I'm gonna say these niggas nuts. These niggas is as entertaining as just. Yo, you wouldn't do that. He be saying.

You'll do that? Yeah, I would do that. Wait, Chris Brown was my cousin. Shit, I'm calling to get the album. I'm calling to get a bunch of shit. What you working on, dog? I would do that. You got a lot of pride, man.

Yeah. It's not about, all right, anyway. Man shit. No, it's just some awkward shit you calling some stranger, like, yo, you know we related. So? It's just very hard. You got to build the rapport.

You got to offer something. Like, yo, I see your kitchen looks like it could use some new tiles or something. You need to decrease your. You're rich, rich, rich on another level. Exactly why you should be soliciting his. I'm going to LA to do the tile. Yeah, fuck it.

He's rich. Tiles is nice. you need some tiles. What the fuck you talking about? The word, what is the word? Stop trying to find it, it's cool, dog, I'm all right. No, no, no, it's not that, it's like... An old cop ass nigga. It's like rigged, like rigidity.

Rigid. Rigid. Rigidity. Rigidity. Rigidity. Yeah. Rigidity. Yeah, rigidity. Rigidity. Rigidity. Rigidity. Rigidity. Rigidity. Rigidity. Yeah. Rigidity.

Yeah, rigidity. Rigidity. That's another R word. Oh, shit, you guys. You are rigid in your just ways. And we all are. I don't know. We are.

Some of it might be because he's a little bit older. But you wouldn't be receptive to a cousin hitting you up out of nowhere that never met you. You wouldn't be receptive to a cousin hitting you up out of nowhere that never met you. You wouldn't be receptive to that. How about that? I just said I would call Aunt Lee. No, them calling you. Somebody reach out to you.

Nobody would call me Aunt Lee. My family knows how. My family is my family. They know me. They know how to do me. They know how to handle me. And she would know how to reach out to you. Manly would call.

Manly daughter would call. Brenda would call. A cousin I like is calling me. It ain't going to be Orlando. I like it, too. out the you will call manly daughter would call a cut Brenda would call a They call my cousin Gina, they and my family know if Gina called, come on now. Anyway. Shoot me. Orlando bitch. They gonna call me too. They gonna watch as they call you. No, my Virginia cousin's gonna call me like,

yeah, that's what she said. Yeah, talk that episode, don't let the family hear that. You got a Virginia cousin? Yeah, I mean not Virginia, Atlanta, I'm sorry. Atlanta, Atlanta, the black, much blacker. Watch this out. Listen man, I'm not, Atlanta, Atlanta, the black, much blacker. Watch yourself. Listen man, I'm not playing with y'all. I don't have no cousin war now, please.

Yeah, word. My cousins are better cousins than your cousins. My cousins are blacker than yours, yeah. You told that nigga your grandfather would fuck his grandfather for that and that and shit. That was the most crazy. Yo, yo, your family can't cook grits better than my family. My uncle can cook grits better than your uncle can cook grits. Y'all are weird. There's no war to be had. If I'm not uplifting my brother, then I don't want to do it. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, next step but that's my purpose. You're acting weird.

Nah, that's peace. You got it, you got it, Phil. You got it, homie. You got it, homie. Champ. Yeah, champ, that's a good use of champ. Oh, champ. Nah, just champ.

Nah, they champed me. Yeah, you're a champ. Oh my God. In the 90s, them niggas used to sit right in front of you and champ a black and mal for like an hour. Oh shit. Oh. What does that mean?

That's when they take the shit out. Oh, when they take that stuff out? They take the cancer favor out. Oh my God. That shit is all cancer favor. They pour the shit back in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a mess.

It was a mess in the 90s. Freaked the black and mal. All right, what are we doing? Champ. You're the man of the house. Sometimes when you the man of the motherfucking house, you get to go out and have fun and do shit. If a grown man can't stay out late, who the fuck can? Lately it's for grown men.

That's what the fuck it's supposed to be. Goddamn kid, yes I had motherfucking fun, yo. You ever practice the argument? Yep, I sure diducking fun, yo. You ever practice the argument? Yep, I sure did have fun. If I don't want to hear her goddamn mouth, God damn it, I'm not finna hear her mouth tonight. Got in my car, I said fuck that. Started that bitch up and hit a tree, shit.

Fuck that. Fuck that. Fuck that. Put the argument in the eulogy, bitch. I'm outta here. Tell that to the congregation. I am the fuck outta here. Hey.

You don't know nothing about this. Mic check, mic check, one, two, one, two. So happy to be here. So happy to be here. So happy to be here. God is good. Rest in peace, Clark Kent. Rest in peace, Clark. We miss you and we love you.

Shout out to wherever you might be listening from. 25 and up, 30 and up, 40 and up, 50 and up, 60 and up. Big New York York big Jersey I'm so bad! Shout out to all the subdues out there! All the patroly's out there! I promise you no less than a hundred thousand kilometers My bond is the first of how you evacuate In your continent I'm barbaric with the power of the magic And you can let me ride with you

Right in front of your bed This is who rap niggas do and shows you shit Cause I be in the crowd If you make control of the kids I'm the most vicious in the company I'm running with the wildest niggas, Westin' D and Allen niggas I'm employing carless niggas, the foulest niggas I'm a zombie from my cell, I'm a zombie from my cell We savage, we savage, we savage

Oh What we doing? It's usually a bit damn brutally. Fuck who you be or where you're from. West or East Coast. Queezed those leaves. Most in the blood they laying in. As Trey and them shit. I suppose it's time to go stay. Big second verse on here. Oh my God. Sheesh. Down your flow, lads.

That's the Lutre leaf where you've been standing next to that. Glory. Okay. All right, baby, when this shit first hit mixing. Oh my God. With the wild moves, wild moves. Turn my lyrics, they bang like migraines.

Shout out to all the mixing DJs out there. Yes, sir. All the radio DJs. Alright baby when this shit first hit mixing, oh my god! Shout out to all the mixing DJs out there! All the radio DJs! Music exacts all the artists, what up? Killing ya Max L! For my people's with illegal cell phones And real MCs like spring it back home Live from the 215, that lost the back door We might have to talk cause I'm letting that second verse go Anyway how y'all feeling? Y'all good? Y'all good? Y'all good? We're good Y'all looking good, y'all smelling good

We got Gracie Award winners in the building Alright It's hard to yell when the barrels in your mouth It's more than I expected I thought you Jews were running, but they wasn't So run it, cousin, I can chill The heat doesn't, ran up in your shell about a dozen I thought you choose a running but they wasn't so funny cuz He doesn't ran up in your shell about a dozen. You'll never see back like Frank watch your hand clutching the chest Keep your hands high make a right or wrong in this game called survive

It's trading me. I keep Steven or the cream. Why everybody get ready for the summer Uh-oh. Uh-oh. And you're with Showtime, so I'ma blow nines into your spry. Do what's yours is mine. Man, what's up? What you doing this weekend? Roots Picnic. Yes, sir. Oh, so now this is my pick? Yes, sir.

Yes, sir. What up? Yeah. I got bad shit to do. Yeah, Beyonce, man. I know. Damn, I want to go to that shit. Big Roots Picnic.

You're missing the Roots Picnic. I know. It's my backpack. Your backpack. Sorry, I put this shit somewhere else. You out there with a snowman shirt on? Uh oh. He leaving Earth. I don't know if I got time for another Stand in the Rain session though.

That's why you need the gold bands. Oh wow, she stunning. My bad, my bad. I like to be amongst the people, you feel me? No. They my man Biggie, y'all finally in the second verse. Yeah. Yeah, I'm in the second verse.

I'm in the second verse. I'm in the second verse. I'm in the second verse. I'm in the second verse. I'm in the second verse. I'm in the second verse. I'm in the second verse. I'm in the second verse.

I'm in the second verse. I'm in the second verse. I'm in the second verse. I'm in the second verse. I like to be amongst the people, you feel me? No. Hey, mama and biggie, y'all finally in the second verse. He told us to talk. Talk before the second verse came on. Not during the second verse. You gotta cue us in, yo. Really? Come again, selector. You talk about gold bears and you got...

Wait, wait, wait. Could you rewind that a couple of times? There we go! Yeah, man! Let's go, man! Other shit niggas spit me counterfeit Robert come naturally in and out like fucking Make a chest rest That's me your family rest the coffins off then Frank with the Fragile

Rapper slash dope dealer slash gorilla slash So nigga keep your hands Chill tray tray You trying man. He trying. He tried. He did well. I'm about to say he did alright though. Trey wasn't no chump.

Hey he did well. He picked up the phone and called him. Hey big man. Like he think I could get a verse? Nigga big. He just went on, you know I like this beat. That's why you gotta be careful when you call one of them killers in there and they like the beat.

Yeah. Big told me he was on his way like puff, I'm on my way. I'm on my way, Caddady, where you at? Yo, that's crazy. You call a nigga on some threat and you shit, and he'd be like, oh, what? Oh, I'll be there in 10. Right.

You're like, wait, I said I'ma fuck you. I know. I'm on my way. We're close. Word, like, that's crazy, son. Oh, man. You know what? You make that other call, I'ma go grocery shopping. I'm not home place. We're close. Word, like that's crazy, son. Oh, man. You know what? You make that other call.

I'm going to go grocery shopping. I'm not home, though, actually. I'll be there. I'm going to get you. That's crazy. Let me hear these drops for the best true in the world. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, uh, no, sir, daddy. It's part of the show. It's part of the show. Uh, the...

Oh, I see. Oh, my gosh. Flip and Mel, Mel, Mel. What episode is this? 830. Oh, my God. My Gert. Welcome to episode 830 of the Joe Button podcast. I'm your

humble, gracious, grateful, highly favorite, or lowly favorite host here with a few really amazing people brought to you by Fueled By, Power By, Price Bix, Price Bix gang. You. To my right, Gracie Award winner. Big Melissa Ford is in the building. Who'd he fucking who?

Next to her, queens flip queens, get the money. You. Next to her queens, flip queens, get the money. Next to him, ah! Oh wait, hold up, hold up. I didn't notice you didn't have a boot on. You graduated. Make some noise. Come on, man.

No boot, man. All in trouble, no boot, man. That boy here, no boot, man, no, no boot. He here like, Kobe, boy. I get down for my day, boy, nigga. No boots, nigga. Nah, for real. Welcome back, nigga, no boot, man. That boy here like, Kobe, boy. I get down with my day, boy. No boots, nigga. Nah, for real. Welcome back, nigga, no boo, man.

That boy healing like AJ Peterson. This nigga heavy-handed as hell. This nigga crazy, son. We happy you back, bro. How you feeling, man? Boo-less, Boo-less Barry. Can you stretch your foot out? Can you stretch it out?

Stretch your leg out. Could you just be excited? Stretch my leg. He's going to make sure you good. That's all. I'm just happy for him. Does it feel nice to wear two sneakers again? Yeah.

But I think the left one is a little fancier than the right. Yeah, one's a little cleaner. It's all good. All my joints going to have one bend. What did you do with the boot? It's in my car. It's my first day wearing it. Yeah, don't try to be too cute.

Be Superman with that. Don't try to be too cute out there now. You start therapy yet? Who? You start therapy? I've been in therapy for 11 weeks about what the boot off no at the recovery house. Yeah Well, congratulations, yeah, I know I know that's a big deal I should go to feel amazing It is it's getting there. Yeah, I'm hooping so It is. It's getting here.

I'm hooping soon. Yeah, right. Slow down, slow down. That shit was a shot to my ego, dog. You gotta get, I'm some get back. Need some get back, right? It's okay for your ego to get shot. And then you gotta get some get back.

Yeah, I'm gonna catch you niggas in September. No, yo. Nah, Joe. Come on, man, to the park real quick. Your ego take a shot. You bugger. It's gonna inspire you to come back better. You knowger. It's going to inspire you. You know how many phone calls I got my nigga?

Yes. I think we're going to have. You have to be nice. I'm like, gee thank you. What? You bugger. And now you're not. The evolution of life and aging. You can't let that be that. Your ego has to be set to a new place now.

It did. It got set down there My shoes all the way in hell. I'm good. No, I'm with a guy whooping you crazy Okay, I mean I wouldn't recommend it and as your friend I feel like I gotta tell you that At least we had a calendar year. I think not All the niggas I know that toward a shit. Uh huh. Mark. Our athletes. Mark, tour shit. He who? I mean, Storm tour shit. He back hooping like I'm going back to hoop. But their story doesn't have to be yours.

True. It's not my wonder. You could just lay up now. You own your construction business. You got the PPP loans. Hey, yo. Hey, thing is cool. Hoop dreams never end, man.

What are we trying to get the triplets to play off? Like, say whatever you want. All right. I don't blame you. I don't blame you. I've been trying to well before you go beat me Beep yeah beat me hit me on the beat you on the hip Hit me on the motherfucking what's the shit ice, Icee's toys made me get them shit. What's the other one? The sidekick one. Oh, sidekick. Sidekick. Yeah.

Why did I have a sidekick? It's popular. What are those called, Skytales? I should have sidekicked them. Blackberry. All of them shit. You had them shit? But I shouldn't have had a sidekick.

Sidekick wasn't it. Why? Okay. Why? That's just some birdy shit. Sidekick's fire. Look at me, we was birds. You a bird, shit. Sack it, sass fire. You a bird, nigga!

I do want to eventually grow out of that. Oh, okay. I'll let you, one day. One day soon. You still got wings? Your wings ain't gonna go nowhere? Put them inside, like what's the name? I forgot the mark, nigga.

Yeah, old boy, Archangel. Hold on,? I forgot the mark nigga. Yeah, yeah, old boy. Art Jameson. Hold on, hold on, freeze nigga. Introduce Freeze. Don't ever do that, son. See, he's forgetting niggas. If your other man was here, you would forget him. Introduce niggas right nigga.

Freeze is here. Yeah. Big Freeze. I'm about to fall back. I apologize. Crazy. Here goes that Big Brother shit again. I'm sorry. I don't want to be his big brother if that's the case. Too late. Why? I apologize. Here goes that Big Brother shit again.

I don't want to be his big brother. Too late. Why? Hell no. It's there already. I don't want to be that. Sorry. He is in like my mentorship program.

Yeah, but you know my big brother, you're my older brother. Not big brother. No big. See, even that. Oh, even that right there. Big. Oh, not big brother, no. See? You're my older brother. He can't be big bro? No, hell no. Even that right there. Big brother, no. You're my older brother.

He can't be big bro? No, I have one, man. That's what you mean. Why though? I'm good. I'm good. That's ego. He's my older brother.

Yeah, but it's misplaced. You're big bro is who you call when you ain't got to get them boys up off you. Look what he did. Look what he did. Yes, you're correct. You're correct you? Look what he do, look what he do. Yes, you correct, you're correct. That is a fact. You are 100% correct. I mean, I don't wanna be the one to say it.

I do wanna be the one to say it. I mean, y'all. Okay. Crazy, y'all. So call him Big Bro. Yeah. Oh, you got your mind, come on. At least for the rest of the show. El Mar Respondents, Parks here. At least for the rest of the show. Marcus, Fonis, Parks here.

At least for the rest of the show. Just say BB. Paul here. Just say BB. BB. Cory here, Trey in the building, Ian in the back, Ian in keeping somewhere, Tanner and somebody else is by my side.

The male called you a Big Bro last week, even though she's older than you. She did. Yes, and I appreciate that. You know what I mean? But I move like that. You don't move like that. We cool. Wow. You move like that. You don't move like that. We cool, we...

You move like that. You move like that. Nah, it's cool, you my brother. I love you. You move like that. You don't speak, bro. Hey yo, listen, this is not analog. It's not about me.

That is a great question, but it's not... But you said it. Maybe I would too. I would too. That boy good. That boy good. That boy good. I would too, I would too. Hey, Big Parks is here, Poblety That boy is good. Hey, Alan Tue. Alan Tue.

Hey, Big Parks is here. Poblity and Cory is here. My son is over here looking sad, man. It's cool. She's going to come back. That emo. Genetic. She's going to come back, man.

Don't worry. You were supposed to come and talk about it last time. You ran from that seat last time. You rode 1,000 bars for this one. You ran from that seat. Oh, my God. Genetic. I got a million bars.

Genetic. That bitch. Yo, she going, man. She going, bro. Bro, she going, bro. Anyway, how y'all doing, man? Oh my god I was watching a Peewee Hermandot. I liked it. I know he was you know me salute to him But you know, you know what? mean, salute to him, but you know. You ain't know what? You ain't know what. He's a gay man. I didn't know he was a gay man, but he also said that he played a role. Like he was able to, I forgot the terminology that he used, but he was able to be.

Duality? To come off duality, come off straight while being gay. Like he was able to hide it. He's active. Yeah. And one thing that I. Oh yeah, when that first gay relationship ended, and his fucking heart broke,

and he said, all right, I'm presenting straight now. One thing I learned though from it that resonated a little bit, was not the gay part, just chill out, was when he... But we didn't, nobody said that. Nobody said that. I just want to make sure you don't look...

It was just on your mind. Because he looked at me. Is when he finally, is when he produced, they gave him the rights to produce the movie, and it was a flop. I love that movie. The second Pee Wee Herman movie. Oh, the second one. Yeah, the circus one.

And that shit resonated with me. It's like sometimes, nigga, when you have the help and you don't want to take it, like when you have something successful and you want to do it on your own, and then when you do it on your own, that shit plummet. I didn't even know it existed. That's crazy. That's shit to your ego, man. I was like, damn.

And then he bounced. There was Pee Wee Herman. I was young for all that shit. So the movie flopped, cool. Then he bounced back. The Christmas special. With Jaja Gabor, Madonna, Eddie Murphy, Prince, Michael Jackson, Oprah. The biggest stars in the world was in the Christmas joint. Yes.

So it was like, he fell, but the next movie he killed him. I was like, nigga, who ain't about to kill him if you give me all of these people? In the 80s. Yeah, in the 80s. The Christmas one is the one that I was in school fucking going crazy for. That was a good one.

I don't know if I remember the Christmas one. I remember the first one. I remember the first one. I remember the first one. Yeah, the first one I remember. The first one was good. The second one was the circus one. It was just. Don't even was just, he produced it himself.

It was a flop. Yo, if you are a star, if you are an adult star for children. That doesn't sound great, but carry on. They did. That's not what I'm trying. I know, I know. Yeah, that doesn't sound great.

What's the proper way to say it? Pee Wee Herman was a star, well, it didn't start for kids, but it eventually started. Made children's, yeah. Made children's, yeah. It eventually got to the children. You can't jerk off no more. Not publicly. Not publicly.

Not publicly. You can do it at home. You can do it at home. But it was a present relationship, man. He had time for himself, so he had to get off somewhere. You still can't go to the adult movie and jerk off. He take showers. Sarasota, nigga, he was in Sarasota, Florida. Who the fuck thought there was gonna be a sting

in Sarasota, Florida? He probably thought he was pretty cool there. Who the fuck thought there was gonna be a fucking sting operation in Sarasota? The same shit about that massage parlor in Florida. He got about as low as you could possibly get with an earache. That's real, that is real. He was broke?

No. No. No. No. No, no. No, you're going top of the real. He was broke? No. No. No. No, you're going top of the world. He was just there. Having a good time. He was on top of the world. He just wanted to get down in the trenches a little bit.

Yeah, that was probably the problem. That's all it was. He was on top of the world. This is what got him out of it. Yeah. That's what that was. That's so unfortunate. You can't, you gotta be careful.

He was in Jersey too. When he laid low after the jerk off show, he came to Jersey. He was out here with y'all. He was out here huddling out. He was low. He was huddling out in Jersey too when he laid low after the jerk off show he came to Jersey. He was out here with y'all. He was out in Jersey at somebody crib in New Jersey. And if you live your life as a character it is real important for us to not see the real you. Like his mug shot looked nuts in the paper. They put Pee Wee Herman next to his real face with long hair looking drunk stupid in the face. Rest in peace Pee Wee Herman.

I'm sure they let him finish. He offered them to do a charity for them if they let him go. He probably offered a couple things. He probably brought the shit out of them. Yo dog listen. What I loved about it and then we'll move on from here. We are. And he opens it opens telling you P. We are. And there's no longer with us.

But before he was fighting a private battle with cancer. Yes. But he shot 70 hours 40 40 hours of film for this doc. And he opens with him saying, yeah, man man, like I just feel like a doc about me I should have control of. So this is my story, I'm telling it the way I wanna tell it, yada yada yada yada. And I'm like, I like that.

I thought that was fine too. That's too fire to be true. Why do you do that? Because that's not how docs work. Tell me more. Well, in the very next episode, there's only two episodes, but in episode two, he wanted to talk about the framing of the arrest and what led up to it a certain way. And he was like, well, can you ask me these questions or can I add these questions or just answer them on my own?

And the guy said, I think you know the answer to that. No, you're gonna answer the questions I ask you. We paying you, nigga. I'm producing you. This is our shit, I don't know what you think this is. So, yeah, that was just interesting to me. But he could still, I give both sides, because he could still, in his version, say,

I don't want a doc to be made about me without me in it. Yeah, that's what I... That's all that could be said. They could have sold that nigga a dream and said, yo, now you're going to control this one. You got this. Because you answered your questions, he didn't understand it,

but you inserting your questions right here may fuck up the story that the producer is trying to tell, even if it's two or three questions. I'm deviating from what is a script, and those people put in a lot of work behind the scenes to come up with those scripts. And probably put in their own money or whatever the case may be. They did, yeah.

Yeah, like. And when people die is when we want the tea. We don't want your version of tiptoeing around and making it cute. No, you about to die and we want to know, we want to know the shit, that's why we here. It's a big business out there, niggas, selling their life rights and shit.

And story rights, not even famous people. So look at it, if you him, you know you possibly going to check out soon, I want to get my story out there my way. I don't want nobody else to tell my story because I know how when somebody else put a doc out, like you said, it's the T, you can have me looking all crazy. Let me try to get some level of control over this

by being a part of this. So yeah, I'm going to tell my version of it from my words so nobody can tell my story for me. Now, they could do whatever after I'm gone. Or as much as I can. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It was good.

Go check it out. It's two episodes. Where is that again? I'm gonna watch it. Go check it out. It's two episodes. Where is that again? It's on HBO Max. HBO Max, yes. It's on Home Box Office. Go check it out.

Okay. What did it leave you feeling after watching it? Did you feel like it was kind of like a... I was informed. I felt informed is not a feeling, but I left feeling a lot more informed about His life. Peewee Herman and how he came to be. His struggle, his story from start to finish.

Again, when I jumped on, it was for kids. Yeah. So even as an adult, just seeing that, like it's not recently that they puttin' gay figures in front of kids. True. Like this has been- They're still worried about it has been a lifelong thing,

and you just don't know. Not that it mattered, but I was just well informed. His struggle, when he failed, him finding the character was the most interesting to me. Like developing characters. Finding the character Pee Wee Herman. Yes. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

He was a racist character before that. Native American. And he said it, he admitted that was racist. Because he thought that the Native American character would be the one that takes him to the next level because people thought it was entertaining. And then he found the Pee Wee Herman character. He went through a few modes.

But rest in peace, Pee Wee Herman. Rest in peace, yes, yes, yes. Definitely. Shout out to him. Now we just need to get Bob Ross back his rights. Nigga, they got a whole fact, and they got a whole fucking way out of this shit. Y'all, isn't that justice people

be fighting for the wrong shit? Give Bob Ross his rights like De La Soul. They tried to go there, you can't enter the premises, the doors are locked. They tried, people tried to go get this man's rights. Get the right brothers, who made McDonald's? McDowell's. Who made McDonald's the two black dudes Get us to give us our shit back

They never give us a billion No niggas sold the burger spot watching McDonald's doctor anyway, come on we got to talk about what can we fight about today? The offset what can we argue about today offset? can we argue about today? Offset? Yes sir. All right. So Offset is asking for alimony. It's a new filing within their divorce proceedings. Get paid my brother!

Oh, okay. It seems to be interestingly timed after the footage of the both. Yeah, so Cliff notes our back in 2020, Cardi filed for divorce first time. She decided to give love a chance and got back together with offset love wins Well, you know, that's debatable and then well, I mean, let me finish the cliff notes and then in 2024 I'm not an advocate of love. I am a huge advocate Marshmallow I am a marshmallow, I love love, okay?

Hallmark fucking cards make me cry, okay? I love, I love. Maybe a little bit of a sucker too, absolutely. But hold on, let me just finish the Cliff Notes, okay? So August 2024, she refiles for divorce, and she basically says it's not because of cheating. Well, she retracts that statement a few months later and says, yes, the fuck it was.

And it was also, she also threw in threatening and stalking and revenge porn. So now he has asked for alimony and spousal support, but with the caveat that they have joint custody, but she be, but their primary residence be her house. He wants to cake and eat it too, sounds like. Yeah, sounds like it, right? He said their primary residence will remain her.

Her house, yes. When we get joint. He responded through his attorney and said that he's only doing it because they're trying to just put him over the coals and ask asking for every single thing that you could possibly ask for. Oh really? Also we're not we're not hearing that side of it we're just hearing this. Yeah we're just hearing. That makes sense. Gotta fight back. Get paid. Yeah. Distinguished cast who has a

controversial take on this. Now in pre-production, we all agreed, get paid young nigga, I don't know if Mel felt it. Mel, you agree with us too, right? No, you got, you're such a liar. Nobody agreed with that. Well, yes we did. Oh no, I think we all did. Everybody did.

Wait, hold on, wait, what? Everybody did. Get paid young man. Okay, I'm alone on this island. Please tell me your argument for why he should get spousal support. You don't be listening to my pre-pro. She's definitely not around like this. Anyway, go ahead.

But no, I'm asking, like, please present the argument why he should get spousal support. Usually, the person asking for spousal support actually fucking needs it. You know, this is usually a circumstance in which one person is like the breadwinner. You're wilding on the internet, that's it. You're wilding on the internet, you're doing a lot. Wait, wait, wait. She's wilding by trying to continue on with her life. To him, you're the mother of my children, you're wilding.

Allegedly, you cheated on me while pregnant with our child. Okay, that's alleged, but there's... No, I think she said... I'm saying alleged because I don't know what happened. But this is what he said. So the person that was cheating alleges that she was cheating. I'm not, I'm saying, you asked me why.

I think she admitted. Did she? No. Well, all I'm saying going to cheat is one person cheating. You're cheating pregnant. Oh, shit. It's not the same. Two of y'all.

OK. I don't necessarily believe that she did, but hey, I'm not. You took my baby to his house? I know. I thought, oh, no. So Mel, is your argument mainly he doesn't need the money? 1,000%. I agree with Mel. My argument is that he doesn't need the money? A thousand percent. I agree with Mel.

My argument is that he does not need the money and that this is just malicious intent, just to piss her off. Because the reasons why she's given for filing for divorce is not just cheating, it's also, she's also included threatening, stalking, and revenge porn. Like this is a lot of,

and also publicly speaking and disparaging her publicly, like it's re, he's. They both did it. I feel like it's been retaliation on her part. They both did it, that's all I'm saying. They both did it. Now you do this with these topics. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it pisses Ish off. No, no, I'm trying, no, no. No, you only trying to. Fan the flames. No, I'm doing good. No, he's, no, no, no. you only trying to fan the flames. I'm doing good. No, he's. No, don't put your superman eyes over there. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no's professed how much he loves her, but I mean, they're both young.

They're both young, famous, rich, and shit like that. How do you feel about it if it's just lawyer games? Like, if what he's saying is true, and it's in response to how this is being litigated. Like, what if some of the claims that she's making are not true? Outside of it, we've seen some of the infidelity stuff, but some of that other stuff,

we don't know if that's true. That could just be the- I think that saying that he sent a video, you know, a video of sexual activity with her to another guy, like revenge porn, that's very specific. You know what I'm saying? Well, she then hit up one of the girls that,

allegedly, that he was fucking with, with some tea. What was the tea? Listen, I'm not- Can't get to that. That's putting me too much in their business. Do you feel like, man, if somebody is well off,

they should not ask for a spouse or support? Absolutely. Even if they're man or woman? Absolutely, a thousand percent. Remember, last episode, I'm the woman who said I would want a prenup. Yes, you did say that. Yes, absolutely.

So they both are you know exceptionally rich like maybe even wealthy at this point. Says who? But but and his levels to what was exceptionally rich. He's worth 30 million she's worth 100 million that's what's being reported. Okay. I need a little something. I need a little something. All that shit you say. So wait, what's the spouse? Tell me what this- All that hot and bother shit at school. Tell me what the spouse is for. We get paid.

Tell me what the spouse is for. Niggas is getting paid. So what's the spouse of- Val, I don't see how you could want him to live in a lesser home with those children. A lesser home? A lesser home? Yep. With the children that she's gonna-

My 30 million can't get with that 100 million can get. Where she's gonna have the primary residence with a bad one? But primary is not all. It's not so. It's not all. It's not all the time. It's still joint. And he put his dreams to the side to push hers. Oh, did he?

That's true. That's true. That's all right. Yeah, he did. He says we're so foolish. He did not. He gave her his whole management team, fixed contracts. They represented her for mad long.

Yeah, he did. Okay. Maybe she doesn't get that 100 without him. Mel, just say that you feel. It's possible that she doesn't, but did. Okay. Maybe she doesn't get that 100 without him. Mel, just say that you- It's possible that she doesn't, but here she is. Just say you fucking with the women and don't wanna hear her that much. That's not it.

Yeah, why don't you try to do the word salad, COVID. I distinctly remember a Jimmy Butler conversation in here. Okay. But I don't wanna be, when Jimmy Butler was giving his baby moms maybe 10, 12 grand, 20 grand or something, and she wanted way, way more, and you stood on the side of getting more money

from Jimmy Butler. He was giving his baby mother a shit ton of money already. So again, that is a situation where Jimmy Butler is the primary breadwinner, and she, I don't, I just wanna go, let's just say she ain't got shit, okay? We're not talking about that here. We're talking about Offset and fucking Cardi B.

Whether it's he's got 30 million, she got 100 million. He is not outside with a fucking cup in his hand like please, sir, please. But what's the spousal support? Like. But real quick, but if he's giving her 20, 30 something a month, it ain't that she ain't got show.

Jimmy Butler was paying 55K a month in child support. Okay, that's awesome. We not gonna say she was got shit. And she wanted more money Okay And we said what the fuck And y'all came in here and argued that she is deserving of more money So it's

So let me finish please If Cardi B is worth 100 or 200 million And Homeboy is worth 30 or 50 There's a huge disparity in that number I wouldn't do it Me, the man that I am, I wouldn't ask her for shit, but I'm not mad at him if he is doing it. I wouldn't do it personally, but it would just be interesting to find out his reasons for wanting spousal support. Why? He saw the video on the boat. He didn't like that shit. Because that's what you have to prove.

You have to, you have to prove why you need spousal support. I don't know that to be true. I don't know that to be true. I don't think so. My understanding is that you do. And so they will go through bank accounts and understand, like, the justification is that I want to be able to maintain the same lifestyle.

We got egos, we got pride, and a lot of times when we see our significant other or our ex move on, we gonna do what we can do, even if it's lawyer games, we gonna do what we can do to me. I don't even wanna put that on though. Well I'm not saying him, I'm just talking about me. Yeah, gotcha. And I think that a lot of people, a lot of guys.

I'm gonna do whatever I wanna do to make your life a living hell. You can't be on a boat shaking ass. I think Flip's absolutely right. With pink shit, whatever the fuck that is, with fire shit while I'm in the fucking video shoot with a fucking, what's that, bathtub next to me? It's just different.

Give me spousal, and I want depression report. Give me all that shit, what's all that shit you could ask for? Pain and suffering, I'm a soul at. A large part, a large part. I'm with you, Flip. No, he's absolutely right. He is absolutely right. Well, if you recognize that he's absolutely right.

But she said it's wrong. She said, even if I'm right, that's wrong to use that money. Because he got much away to get it, because you have money already. Oh, no, no, no, no. That's because your ego's been fucked with. Yes, yes, yes.

You know what I'm saying? And that's malicious. That's a malicious. No, you're fucking with it. It's not my ego just so happens to be fucked with. I see what you're saying. You're actively fucking with my, let me just land, please. We do that a lot here. We can't talk and listen to the same thing. I see what you're saying. You're actively fucking with my, let me just land please.

We do that a lot here. We can't talk and listen to the same thing. Just rock with me. It's a good talk. A large part of separation is managing emotions. Mm-hmm. Okay. Not just yours. Sorry, sorry to break it to you.

Unfortunately. I've gone through this. I've gone through this. This is your maturity, bro. Well, I've gone've gone through this. Listen to your maturity, bro. Well, I've gone through mediation before. Listen to your maturity, bro. And I had emotions, and she had emotions. And I had things I wanted to get,

and she had things she wanted to get. And no matter how much emotion was in it, we had to find a way to navigate through that. If you know you going through divorce and no sign that we've seen says it's been a friendly one. No. Then what do you think is going to happen when you parade around town

with the beautiful football player on the boat at the Met Gala? Y'all not just running around. Court side at the next game. This ain't like me and my ex breaking up and then she go to X bar with some new niggas. She had fucking papasitos with some new niggas. This is a different level. This is levels to this.

Basketball games. This is all French. Holding hands under. We popped out intentionally because it was rumors before that they were seeing each other. He started, he said to catch em. Yo it was here, it was there, it was this. Now it's for sure. Fashion week, shit they was at Girls Love Karaoke.

I got the fuck out of here. They came and sat right at the table. I ain't with all that superstar shit. I'm outta here. But that's what I'm saying though. Being at Girls Love Karaoke is not the same thing as popping up court side at the Nick game. Sure. Holding hands as you walk into the,

and holding hands while sitting down court time. I mean, you say that, I've been, we're flipping saying before, so my brain would take it to, if I'm home stalking my girl or my ex, if you add girls love karaoke with this nigga, that means both of y'all are in New York, and this is an after or pregame, what is going on?

This ain't the real move. You two is coming from somewhere. True. That's not what I'm talking about though. And I'ma keep it a buck. Yo, you add Girls Love Karaoke, that means you really fuck with this nigga. Yeah.

Like you at the Knicks game, that could be for show, that's like some superstar shit. My nigga, you down at the motherfucking cheese steak spot in the hood, you fuck with that. When it comes down to fucking with my ego, like y'all was saying, bro, you popping up at these places, Met Gala, et cetera, that's gonna get national coverage. It's different than you at Girls Love Karaoke,

where niggas outside of New York don't even know what that is and you popping out with a nigga that do all the same shit you was complaining about with me if not more or worse that's what a man says when he's sitting at home lost his whole family and now got time to think about the grievances that she laid out. Now we watching your next move. We be scared a little bit. Maybe she gonna find a good man. Maybe she gonna find somebody that don't agree with my way. And you go out and fucking. Yo that's step one. That's true. Cuz then when you see who she with, you know how he move. Oh it's coming again anyway. And he's sitting there like, he gonna do the same shit.

Y'all broke up and she ran to fucking Houston for James Harden weekend. Pfft. Cue up the playlist homeboy. You sick? Just cue up the playlist. Y'all broke up and it took her three days to be at John Wall DC party.

Okay, so what part is worse? Yeah, you better cut me off. No, what part is worse? You better cut me off, I mean my bad. What part is worse as it relates to you guys, as it relates to men in general? I know y'all aren't a monolith, but try and like, you know,

just do the general guy think thing. What part is worse is that she's stepping out with, can we refer to Steph Stefan as a sniper here? Is that what we would do? What's the male? Okay, so I didn't know if it was like, I didn't know if it was just a woman thing or if it was just like a,

He got some kills. Okay, he's a sniper. Navy Seal. I don't know if he's a sniper, he's pretty, Navy Seal. Navy Seal. Navy Seal. Navy Seal.

You see him. You see him. Yes, yes, I've got eyes. Yes, okay, so. I don't know, Navy Seal? He's a, you see him. You see him. Yes, yes, I've got eyes. Yes, okay, so. That ain't, I don't know, Navy Seal? I don't know if he's a Navy Seal. Can you all come up with a fucking term for this motherfucker? Navy Seals, you know, you don't see them.

That's the point of a sniper. That's all I'm saying, that's all I don't know if I'm. I don't know if he's a Navy Seal. He might be a, I think he one of the young sports niggas that fucking looked up to rappers girls, I mean, or looked up to rappers, seen a girl, now it's his time to shine. He just on a fucking mission mission no matter how you look.

Okay, so we're just gonna call him a sniper for now. Okay, is the bigger problem that she is dating a sniper and so she might have possibly, in maybe offset's eyes, upgraded? Or is it the fact that he now knows that she literally doesn't give a fuck anymore. Because the first time that she filed for divorce, he was able to get her back.

And she stayed for several years, and they had another baby. You glazing. But then the next time she files for divorce, enough shit had probably happened. Repeated actions that she would, and also weathering the storm of continuous public humiliation.

So her public humiliation was while they were married and he was cheating. She's on the outside of that marriage. And is he not the first one to have stepped out publicly with somebody else? And she was a beautiful girl, but nobody knew who the fuck she was. She just happens to be dating a fine ass star. That's really what the fucking problem is. When you put all the stuff on the table. So you asked us a question and he answered it.

And made up some other shit. I did make up some other shit. Well, I mean, Parks did kind of answer it. I didn't. You're speaking for me. No, you did answer it because you said it was the second one. It's a slap in the face when you lay everything on the table and say, this is why I'm leaving this relationship, just to get in bed or get with somebody

that does the same exact thing. No, and he said months ago, when they first were talking about the breakup, this is who she fucking with. And everybody was like, eh, maybe, maybe not, because they were denying it at first. He knew that early. When she was pregnant, he was like,

yo, this is who she fucking with. He laid it out there. Don't fuck with a nigga like me. Go get yourself a nerd, a geek, a professor at a college. Go get yourself one of them, somebody cool. Go get a nigga from Starbucks that worked by a manager. Something different for me. Cardi B is not fucking with someone from Starbucks.

I'm not talking, I'm just talking about, I'm using me as an example. I wouldn't want you, if you lay on the table, I don't like this about you, that about you, that about you, you're doing this, and then you get with somebody that does the same thing I'm using me as an example. I wouldn't want you, if you lay on the table, I don't like this about you, that about you, that about you, you're doing this, and then you get with somebody that does the same thing I'm doing. It's an issue.

And we gotta stop saying that. What? Which one? We gotta stop saying such and such because of their cachet wouldn't do such and such. That's true. They just don't publicize. They might not publicize.

Or the media might not. They do a lot of slicks and yeah. And then when they get the big fish, that's when they pop out on them. Or that's when the media finds it interesting enough to write about. But that was Offset's first beef. What?

Is that, oh, you playing romantic games with my ops. He worded it differently. But he said, oh, you playing different different. Like you fucking mind. Oh, I ain't know that. So you mad that I play your game better than you? Who said that? Who's complaining about me then?

Mel, let me ask you a question. Mel, all right, we should escape this. Yeah, we should. We should leave, come on, y'all, come on. Mel's mind is made up. No, I'm just, I'm posing questions. What game, what game? I'm literally riffing on what Joe was saying

and what Flip was saying. You said, yo, you mad that I'm playing your game better than you? Yeah. What was his game? His game was, he mad that I'm playing your game better than you. Yeah. What was his game? His game was he was fucking her opps? I don't know. No. Cheating.

I'm asking you that. No, just in terms of like- Well, and Cardi would say yes. Yeah. She would say yes, but- I'm asking. And just, yeah. We know he was fucking her opps.

I don't know nothing I'm talking about. Oh, gotcha. I don't know nothing I'm talking about. Gotcha. I have no idea. To your point, yo, I think that they both are married, I think that they both have children, I think that they were in love at some point in time. And when you break up, you, in my opinion, have to consider the other person's feelings,

especially publicly. I think that's what mature people should do. I don't think that he, I think she would argue that he did not consider the relationship. How long does that last? We want to be misogynist. Enough of the woman voice. How long does that last? she would argue that he did not consider me in the marriage. We want to be misogynist. Yeah, like, say it. No, you just keep it. No, enough of the woman voice for this topic.

How long was that last? I'm going to need the fuck. I'm joking. You think that's wise? I believe, and I'm saying this in closing, I believe double standards should exist sometimes. Y'all have definitely said that up here. What? Life is double standards, man.

I hear that. So he's saying, yo, I been hoing. You shouldn't really have as much time to hoe as me because you're the primary. What you need to do is sit your little hot ass down and put an album out, but you won't. That's what he's saying. And the co-parent dad, Newsflash, is always going to be able to say that.

And we're going to say it. And it's going to sound nasty. Hey, we know what the truth is under that. But niggas is going to say, yo, where's my kid with Nana again? You moving and shaking again, where the fuck is Timmy? Where's our baby? I'm gonna need a cut. Anyway, that's enough of us minding people business.

Yeah, facts. Thoughts and prayers. Tease and peace. Thoughts and prayers, listen, summer's about to get hot. Niggas home from jail and they plotting. Be careful out there. This is the right season to lose your girl,

to get a bank account frozen, to get the wrong phone call, the wrong family member done got kidnapped. One bad thing this summer could change the whole landscape. So just be careful out there. Be careful. Some of y'all did the spring breakup and now y'all gonna try to stunt fly

on your ex for the summer. Be careful. All I'm saying is be careful. I already see it out there. It'll backfire. I'm already seeing it. Definitely a backfire. Half of Instagram is doing gender reveals.

Boy, y'all was fucking. Y'all killing them shit, too. And smoke bombs and all type of grenades. And half of Instagram is the streets. And I already see the girls with they break up captions in the stories. Yeah. I see it already.

Wait, what do they sound like? They posting. They posting. What's a breakup caption sound like? You know. You know all of them. It's not on my timeline, I promise. It's not on my timeline, I promise.

One of my homegirls had the new apartment keys and said, free at last. Oh, shit. And the same way I think that, and I'm leaving this again because this might be controversial, but the same way, oh shit, already prospects? Hold up for me the prospects. I'm in my bag, prospects. Hold up for me. Hold. I'm in my bag prospect, hold up for me.

Hold up for me. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, what was I about to say? And the same way. Hey hold up, this might be controversial. Damn, what the fuck was controversial? Some Cardi also. Oh, you niggas need to go to hell now.

The dudes that's trapping the girls, because I talk to the girlies. More than anything. You don't say. I talk to the girlies now. How they trapping them? The dude is going to she's going to get pregnant.

The dude is going to say, yo let's do it. She's going to say, nah I'm cool. Nah let's do it, come on. Come on, I don't really know. He's going to say, nah I'm with you, come on, we for life girl. Our baby shower going to be lit. I believe in abortions. That's what they want. No, that's the one. That's the one.

No, deadass. We're not lying. We are not lying to you. And if she gonna have a baby and then he gonna realize. And then in six, seven months he gonna change his mind. I don't really feel like dude should be able to do that to girls. That's a controversy. That happens. No, that happens. I don't feel like dudes should be able to do that to women. That's fucked up. That ain't me contradicting nothing. No, I said that's a controversial opinion. Well, it's just dude code a little bit I guess. In some circles.

When you in the moment, you want to keep something and then just fire, you're like, come on, keep that. We're going to take it over together. You just say a whole bunch of things that you probably don't mean. But you're saying it in the moment say I also think the dude that says I don't want to be a parent Should not be committed to child support. I have some wild thoughts as far as this speak to that I want here to room speak to that to which one the second or the child support partner No, no just the one that don't want to be a parent. No the man that says yo, Doug

I don't want to go down this route. And then having to pay child support? I think he should do community service, 500 hours at least. Yeah. That should be a charge. You'll fuck that lady whole life up. Yeah, you should take a sex ed class. You lost me.

Fuck. The guy that trapped the lady. No, he said, he said speak to the opposite. Speak to the guy that doesn't. The guy that, she got pregnant and he told her from the rip, yo, this is not what I want to do. And she like, oh well, we doing this anyway. Speak to that, to the guy that got pregnant and he told her from the rip, yo, this is not what I want to do.

And she like, oh well, we doing this anyway. Speak to that guy. Well, I just did. I did the A and the B. I told you my thoughts on it. In that scenario, I don't think that guy should have to bet. Yeah. Those are my controversial thoughts on this.

What should be the repercussions for the woman? Oh, I don't know. I don't know if it should be repercussions. That's what I'm saying. I don't know about that. All right. I'm not a... You niggas that's trapping these girls, y'all need help. That's fucked up. Anybody trapping anybody. It's trapping is going both ways.

And anybody trapping somebody needs help. That's another double standard though. So women should be allowed to trap but not men. No, but women are incentivized differently to trap than men. So differently, yeah, but some men areized differently to trap than men. So differently. Yeah, but there's a Minster minors incentivize to trap a woman and they mine and those men are probably trapping women But I think that women are more incentivized Okay, that way so how you say so man doing it? Why is a man doing that? I'm saying in the case that that scenario doesn't exist where you she got all the money

When that scenario doesn't exist where she got all the money. When that scenario don't exist, how are you incentivized to trap her? Because a lot of them streets, them insecure ass niggas want you to be tied down by a baby and not be outside and be able to play in the streets like you used to. Those are the guys that should do community service. I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm saying that-

So there should be no penalty for the girl that traps the guy? Yeah, she needs 20,000 hours. If he has to do community service, what does she have to do for trapping the guy? Would the penalty be just maybe not she can't get to child support, or at least not the same level of child support?

Oh, that is true. I keep saying that. Yo, you said that. You did say that. You said that. Okay. I was making sure it wasn't listening to me, man. No, you said that.

Sometimes. You want arguments? You got arguments. When male might be made up on some shit, male, you not... Malleable. Malleable at all. That wasn't the word I was thinking.

I mean, I told you I was standing 10 toes down on shit now. Fuck it. You got a grace, you can do that. That part, that part. I'm, yeah, I'm not even going to participate in this part of the conversation, because y'all are wiling. For real? Which part?

The whole trapping and child support and shit like that. That shit is fucking crazy. Who's wilding? Because you guys are speaking. I'm wilding? I think it's wild, period. Let her answer, nigga. In general, like just in general,

the whole trapping conversation, we are neglecting to process the fact that there is a child in this matter that did not ask to be here. So whatever fucking games y'all are playing with each other, there's still a kid that it doesn't even matter anymore. There's a fucking kid that needs to have his life or her life sustained and that is sustained by,

a friend of mine just had a baby and he does very, very well for himself. And my first thought, I was like, I'm gonna call him, I'm gonna say, hey, I to send you a gift for the baby. And I started thinking to myself, what should that gift be? A little baby wipes, a little bouncy chair. I know I was going to send all the essentials. Save his mom.

Okay. Well, there's, there's that too. That's a good thing too. But I was going to send all the essentials because the baby, his girl said, you ain't got to say nothing. Let her ask you. I'm sure she would. His girl said you ain't gotta say nothing. Let her ask you, god damn it. I'm sure she would be very grateful for the essentials

that babies need in that first year of life kind of thing because that's really it. Having a baby is not sexy. Past the fucking gender reveal, the shit gets fucking real. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, who trapped who, blah, blah. There's still a baby here, you know what I mean, that has to be taken care of.

Like, it's nuts. And the, you know what I mean, that has to be taken care of. Like it's nuts. And the fact that you guys are not the ones on birth control is fucking wild to me. You guys can plant. Who the hell, ICE is on birth control. No, listen, I think, I wish more men did what you did. Cause vasectomies are reversible. I think, I feel like more men should do what you,

listen, just go ahead and have all the unprotected sex that you want as long as you've had a vasectomy and then when you do want to have kids, then you get it fucking reversed. But to put the onus of birth control solely on the woman is fucking crazy and then you run the risk of quote unquote being trapped. That was time for my favorite part of the show.

Hey big dog, I got to tell you about. She ain't said nothing wrong though. Go ahead, go ahead. She didn't say nothing wrong. But you run, good. She didn't say nothing wrong. But you run the risk of being trapped. Quote unquote trapped. Ayo, now it's pop. That Gracie Warke was with Adderall's?

She going crazy. That and mushroom coffee. It was in the gift bag. Look at Ish telling fucking post secrets. Oh, she's blowing shit up. Look, look, look. Yo. No, no, no. It is time for our favorite part of the show. Yes, it is blowing shit up. Look, look, look. Yo.

It is time for our favorite part of the show. It is time. Yes, it is. You ain't going to do that. You know I'm trying to get a man. You know I'm trying to get a man. Never. Can you think about my question before you just rush out there?

No, because I know. Have you never thought. Never. Oh, my god. Let them finish. All right, go ahead. Go ahead. Finish.

Have you never, ever, ever, ever thought about trapping a man? Literally, I knew that was the end of the question. That's why I was answering. Well, show me the respect and let me finish. Okay. Respect. Are you finished? I'm done. Okay.

Emphatically no. And y'all know what my roster fucking look like. I don't know. I don't know. Yes, the fuck you do. We don't know that, man. Come on. Yes, you do.

Couple players. What you got? Rex on Rex on Rex, he. We don't know that man, come on. Yes you do. Couple players. Watch me! What you got? Rex or Rex or Rex, we got, Rex or Rex or Rex, we got, Rex or Rex or Rex. And if I was that, if I was that type of girl, I could've done it five times over.

We don't know what your last name is. Yes you do, bitch, yes you do, yes you do. Can't fake on so strong. I could've done it several times over if I was that type of woman. I'm not. It's just not my thing. It never was. Now, when you was running around,

I dated a young nigga. You was trapping. What do I? You was trapping. You do remember I was young at the time, too. Yes. Now it's time for our favorite part of the show. And I'm still here.

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Let me give you the joe-ish picks of the week. Go Nicks, Nicks in seven. From five to six. It's Nicks until it ain't. You got it. Ish has Halliburton for more than four and a half rebounds. Mal's Turner for more than four and a half field goals made. It's a lot of paces. OG and Inobe for more than six and a half points and assists and Brunson for less than six and a half assist. That half is way trickier. You're gonna have five or six but that half. Yeah. Brunson for less than six and a half assists. If you download the Price Picks app right this second and use promo code JBP. You get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup. I

repeat for the people in the back if you download price picks right this second and use promo code J.B.P. You get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup. So good luck to all participants out there and run your game. Go Knicks. Yeah, man. Go Knicks. We won the other night. I can't come in here and get braggadocious because of the way that the pod schedule aligns with the playoff schedule. By the time you're hearing this, we play tonight. It's in Indiana. It could go bad.

I would come in here with egg on my face. Mark would come in here with fucking Dale Davis Antonio Davis, so I want to be so I want to be respectful Good game glad the Knicks did what we had to do in game five Hopefully we pull it out in game six and we return to the garden for game seven That's what you have home court advantage for and you knew eventually once they won two in the Garden that you would have to win two in Indiana. There's no surprises here.

And with that said, good luck. Good luck to them, man. We'll see. We'll see what? You don't feel confident though. It's a little tricky. I feel as confident as you could feel going into the situation.

I'm gonna keep it a buck though. If anybody could do it, y'all could. You know I don't want y'all to win, but the Knicks is tough, y'all. They play hard, they scrappy, they got heart the size of lions. So if anybody could do it, y'all could do it. I look at it like this. The series should be 3-2 New York right now, and then we would go to Indiana and lose and come back home and win it in seven.

Why you say that? Because the Knicks should win game one, they lose game two. The Knicks should win game three, they lose game four. They should, it's reversed, they win game five in the Garden, go to Indiana to lose in game six and then you come home and win in game seven but it didn't happen like that. So that's how I see it, but we'll see. I don't want to date the conversation by talking about Knicks. Go Knicks, I'm with you guys.

And that's that. What else can we argue about? What else can we fight about? Or get along about, but get along don't sound fun to me. We haven't talked new music in a very long time. It hasn't been no music to talk about in a very long time. Overfall these niggas. Ain't no music to talk about.

Oh, sorry. Sorry. We got some drops this week. Yeah, this week was some music. Leon Thomas dropped a Mutt Deluxe. A Deluxe, which I usually stay away from. It's very good. No, it's fire.

Yeah, it's fire. It's heat on there. I was going to play one too, but you got it. Clips is back. That's what I cared about album. The album is coming July 11 Single is out. How much now freeze? I'll I it sounds exactly what you expect from from the clips play Play a little bit fun. We don't want to take your word for it. We need to We need to hear no malice on malice is no malice. Yeah, there's no malice. No malice. No malice. So malice is back in like, yeah. His name's no malice. No malice.

No malice, not malice. He's a man of God. Like me. Okay, I'll wait to hear it. You a Christian? No, nigga, he's a Pentecostal. He's Pentecostal. Pentecostal is Christian.

It's a balmy Christian. It's a corny Christian. Yeah, it's a certain division. It's a certain division. Christian light. What do you wish? It is not light. What do you, Catholic? Pentecostal is the niggas that be.

What are you? Fire and brimstone. You in the mega church? I'm asking. Yo, bro. This is culturally inappropriate. Ballerinas doing pirouettes inside of my snow globe. Shoppers freezing so ho.

You had to see my This is culturally inappropriate I keep three. Oh my god That's on repeat sins of the father. So I call you little me cheese. It's easy Ever seen his peers can't compare you just see see don't you know these clears in my ears only Be these the frog it's in his dark bag. Fro is dark. Just I'm gonna banger you I'm about to ask you in three demonic bag. I'm about to ask you in Freeze. The demonic bag. I'm about to ask you in Freeze, does this change our recent perception of Pharrell? Like if I go in a studio and a producer turns this beat on beat only, it's Rapsody. It's big ticket Rapsody.

This beat is phenomenal. I've heard three other beats from this album that are. That all sound phenomenal. Is Pharrell using the clips to get back some of his rep? Like Pharrell lost some of his... He lost a step. He lost a little bit, but I mean, last time he was with clips, it was banger shit all hell had to...

Yeah, but the last time he was with Travis Scott, it was not. And the last time he was with some other people, you know how we've judged Pharrell. Yeah, yeah, you're right. These beats sound like he's kicking Chad's ass in the lawsuit. When I get with them, it's different, that's all. That just sounds like a certain synergy that's just... Something needs to be said for Push inspiring,

or Clips inspiring Pharrell and Kanye the way that they do. Oh, for sure. Something needs to be said about that. Kanye tweeted, he's inspired him now. He tweeted he missed Push's friendship. Well stop being a bitch ass nigga then. Very simple. If you just stop being a bitch ass nigga then niggas then the real niggas will stick around a little bit. True. But you soft and you suck dick for so many years that niggas could smell that stench on your breath still

like halitosis, like dickatosis in your mouth. Like Squeegees I just keep key life speech All beneath me Beje's in the national flights connect me to the we feed the only way you reach me Ballerinas doing pirouettes inside of my snow globe Shopping sprees and so hope you had to see it stripper shaking ass and watching the dough blow a Trumpets and roads most Ten with papa which I was Doing pasta simply just for Rari window shoppers the one that I just thought it looked like it was built by NASA We call for cash

But it looked like it was built by NASA Over half a million we call for Kasha Reaching for Akasha Never leaving home without my peace Like I'm a hot mom from the truth Pause this, pause this, pause this. He still got it. Pause this. He ain't missed a step.

Bro, you didn't hear his verse on Pusha's album, on the Nego album. No, we didn't hear all that shit you heard. Oh, sorry, you should be listening to the rap. I'm joking, I'm joking. He ain't missed a step. I think something needs to even be said about that. To step away as long as he's stepped away

and to come back sounding like that, he still sound like Lord Willem, kinda. Yeah, yeah. This is when they was arguing about who's the best rapper in the clips. Right. I'm not saying that ever again because I got dissed because of it.

Out of that conversation. Who did you say? I said Malice was the best rapper in the clips and Pusha T didn't like that. You gotta shut up. And I caught bars because of it. You can't say Malice is better when Malice went to go join the church and I had a band when I was 15 years old. Well no this was years ago.

This was back then. Got it, got it. Back then a lot of people said Malice. Well he didn't care that they said it. When I said it it was a fucking problem. It's funny. Well, your voice is strong. It's funny being tight about that

when it's your brother getting the props. Like, that's how competitive they are. Your voice is too powerful to spread misinformation like that. Yeah. For real. It don't matter, Ice. Your voice is strong.

Sorry, buddy. This is fire. This album is going to be sick. Yeah, it is. It's all like it's it's really going to be sick. They got they got the distribution set up. They probably have a date now, right? Yeah, July 11th.

Yeah, July. They've been doing great since they left Jim Jones alone and Jim Jones put them Jimmy put them boys back on the right. Let me stop. Hey Bush, I got to back on the right. Let me stop and push and diss me. Hey Push, I gotta perpetuate the beef. I'm sorry, even if you diss me, you know I love you, nigga. I don't care. I'm gonna get them to come up here too.

Don't worry, they'll be up here. Push gave this podcast arguably the greatest interviewers I've had. Yeah, that's nice. That was great. Arguably the greatest interviewers I've ever had. I was in Starless when I got that call from Karen. Yo, Push want to come right at the height of the beef.

You want to tell it all. Wait, wait wanna come right at the height of the beef. You wanna tell it all. Wait, wait, what? You can come to the house. You know what I mean? Let me get out of here. Big business move. Shout out to the Clips, man. Yeah, super fine, man.

Can't wait to hear this project. And shout out to Pharrell if he's showing up like that. He's showing up. What other music came out? Honey Baby came out. I didn't get a chance to check it out yet in my R&B bag, but yeah, album. You know I support Honey Baby. I fuck with her. Shout out to Honey Baby, yes, yes. We love her get a chance to check it out yet in my r&b bag, but yeah album You know, I support honey, baby. Yeah, honey, baby. Yes. We love her. Shout to k-mac honey, baby and all that. Uh

What else came out? What else came out? Yeah, Ali. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, Ali with a little EP five songs 12 minutes. Yeah, Ali. I'm gonna fuck you up Not really, but if I see five song it irks me to see 12 minutes Yeah, that's true. And if some of the songs came on, he had the boys on, he had December on there for one, this shit come on one minute and 10 seconds. Yeah, at least stop playing with me.

Niggas are fans of you. We don't have time for this. Make it different. Yeah. Five songs need to be at least 16 minutes for me. 12 minutes? Yeah, that's true. Man, by the time I tell you this shit, this shit is over.

But you know what? But it is fire. And then run it back. But it is fire. And that's why they put that one. Yeah, Ali, friend of the show, that's sweet. Man, by the time I take a shit, this shit is over. But it is fire. And then run it back. But it is fire. Yeah, I leave, friend of the show, that's my man, fuck with him. But he gotta stop playing. We got a new Meek Mill record.

Yeah, Meek and G Herbo. Oh, Meek and Herbo. That shit is tough. You like it like that? Meek's verse was very tough. That's what, yeah, that's what I came for. Okay, okay. Y'all hating.

I'm not hating. Are we playing something? I could. I'm playing. Please. Please. Wayne got some music podcasting. Hey.

It's alright. Get a load of this, Mel. Check this out. Yeah. I'm listening. Don't just listen to Joss and shit. Listen to other shit. I got more guns than a cop and a mansion all alone, but I got four guys in the spot I got to outside of the bed and got some more guys at the top and I don't trust this homeland with like well

You guys stop you can't even sleep. I just see my bro from the fourth grade and when he speak He's stuck in his ways. He want my life should any indeed. I've been out all day with 50 shots. I ain't since PNB This shit well nigga, you don't want me at the white party What the fuck, you want me to kill, niggas? You don't want me at the right party With the rich folks bustin' deals with em' I know all the killers well I was poppin' pills with em' Been fallin' back from Killadel

Cause I might try drill, nigga My youngin' died at 20 like a real nigga Shots to his head, hit his chest like some real nigga Time's in the fence and my homie gotta deal with it My dawg slidin' my other dawg Expectin' me to chill with him You know what you gettin', nigga That's all. Boy, listen. What does that mean? I'm getting old. I'm getting too old now to decipher lyrics. When we catch you, it's just going to be the Super Bowl.

What does that mean? It's going to be a performance. Oh, I didn't know. Shoot out? I don't know. Performance, we're going to perform. I feel like that's the closest. Yeah.

It's going to be the Super Bowl when we catch you. We're going to perform. We're going to show out, nigga. Yeah. I don't know Bowl weekend. We gonna perform, we gonna show out, nigga. Yeah. I don't know. Okay. We gonna kick a Philgo, nigga, who knows? Oh, what the fuck you talking about?

Hey, the niggas he talking to though. Yeah, we gonna get sacked. I don't ever wanna be old enough the way I can't decipher rap lyrics no more. Then I might as well go fucking, I might as well go tuck myself in somewhere. Yeah, go listen to gospel. If I can't decipher a rap lyric,

I'm like, I'm going to listen to Jhansi. There you go. Facts. No, watch yourself. Shout out to Meek Mill, man. I like the record. Annie, wasn't it? I like the record.

Yeah. That record sounds good. I want to shout out Chad West just because. Okay, shout out to Chad West. Just because when I hear the Philly rappers, I think of me rapping with the Philly rappers. I think of Chad West beats Okay, I just think of

Yeah, I wonder what he's up to. I wonder if he's still got a package of some crazy shit over there Paul. I'm sure you do Hmm. I'm sure you do. I Want to rap? Oh I'm sure you do. I do I do I ain't gonna lie The only thing that stops me is I don't have the beat packs so I don't and I don't request them I don't add but if I ever ask Alchemist or Chad West or one of these niggas I love What's my man for Seattle? I love Jake Warren if I just start hitting niggas I love that. I know God's something's gonna make me do something. I was on ransom page the other day

He was like yo here goes something. I never put out and I'm playing this shit. I'm like, oh man God damn this sound like I need to call him, this sound like a Joe Button remix survivor heard it. And he start DMing, nigga, stop that podcast and shit, you know who you are, you know who you are, you're heart and your soul, nigga, you want to come back to the game. Do it, fuck that pod shit, Ransom was super me up.

I don't call Ransom, Royce, 38 Special, all them niggas, we back. I'm here for it. That's fire. I'm here for it. Think you can hang with them though? Think you still got it? No, I'm not trying to shoot.

No, we asked, nigga, fuck that. Do you think you still got it, nigga? Cause these niggas been active at a high court. How's your breath control? Ooh, now she playing with you. See, see. Okay, all right, it's a legit question. That's my breath control? Oh, now she playing with you. See? OK, all right, a legit question. That's the other part. To my memory.

I want to hear what the verse sounds like when you stop smoking and breath control. That's one of the reasons I retired. I wanted to go smoke in peace tonight. For real, and like a rocking grandfather. Cheers. You sitting here smoking with your ass. Yeah, you need breath control to be around.

Oh, what a shit. Huh? Your mind ain't stopped. What do you mean? Nigga, you can rap. I think it would take you three, four, five months to start getting your shit back. But your brain didn't stop.

Nigga, you witty, you funny. For me, I'm only talking about for me. I'm not talking about, well, I'm the only one that can speak from this POV, because I'm the only rapper that actually retires. Yeah. I forgot about that part. For me.

I heard a Norrie verse today. He's on the Master Kill album who dropped out. Norrie ain't stop rapping. Norrie ain't stop rapping. The verse was kind of tough too. Fucking Norrie. For me, thinking of something in my head and not being able to execute it the way I heard it

was a deterrent. Like not having the breath control to do what you hearing in your head and then punching in certain parts, it was like, that was that was the more like your policy and she was fucking you up Yeah, then then then to make some money you had to tour it. Yeah Now let me go a lot of work in it Sell a million copies from patreon and I feel like well not even sound a million copies, but I feel like now

I'm almost to the point where I can do a passion project. Yeah for sure. Yeah, absolutely Yeah, but we shouldn't sleep on it. I've never in my life been in a place where Passion project right so what does that even look like or sound like anything you want it to? Even without even without rapping and we'll move on from this because I want to center myself I do miss hearing a beat and being like oh Shit right like if nothing else I missed the discovery of I always tell people to Like even just when I'm talking to people like y'all you enjoy old music shit like yo I never forget that day we was in Jersey girls and Russian Roulette came on. You had just came off tour.

That feeling. That face. And I'm about to kill this beat. Like I never saw that before. This nigga was like, like you was in a trance, like yo, what the fuck is this? Yo, no, we gotta go. I can't believe rock on play that shit, man. What the fuck is this?

Ain't nobody rapping on this. This nigga was like, yo, we gotta go. What else is super important that needs our attention? Or unimportant that needs our attention? Trump is out here partying in folks. He partying in niggas. Okay, let's get to it. Now, my first time hearing of some of the theories

that's going on out there was Mark Lamont on our last pod where he was like, yo there's rumblings of Trump wanting to let out Derek Sharman, I've never heard that until he said it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's about four or five months. I mean if heard that until he says it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been talking about that for about four or five months. I mean, if I'm just looking at it. They're rallying and everything.

If I'm just looking at the optics, I mean, it looks that way. Yeah, it does. Yeah, so we're going to pacify the black people by letting out a couple people that they might be championing for. You understand what I'm saying? So supposedly he pardoned NBA Youngboy.

He did. And he also pardoned Larry Hoover. He commuted his census. He commuted his census. Commuted his federal census. Yeah, because he still got his state case. So he got, I think, 150 years state. That is, that a man.

It's true. You don't know what Larry Hoover got. I do. I'm fucking with you. So I think that's just a pacification, because I'm about to get into my wild bag, and I don't want nobody says racism. So let me throw a couple tidbits to black people so they can shut the fuck up when I start wilding up.

I look at that in the other way. I don't think it is racism. I think it's, I'm literally just trying to get all y'all, I'm going to do something you like, because again, if he part in Chauvin, he still got a state case as well. So you're not coming home tomorrow either. It's just like, I'm a pacifier.

I'm a pacifier. This base will pacify that base. Okay. Y'all the young niggas, y'all like NBA young boy. I'm a pacifier. Y'all with him. And with Hoover, it's not necessarily about pacifying black folks. It's a dig at the current governor of Illinois who has made claims that he

wants to run for president and this was Trump's way of fucking with him because he can commute his federal his federal case but he can't do anything about the state so now it's up to him and everybody feels like Larry Hoover should be let out everybody don't feel like that actually there's a big conversation

going on right now that they keep having when the likes of Amiche or whoever come out of the younger people are like, hey, why are we celebrating these people being released? Well, I mean, I'm saying he has a massive amount of supporters, that's what I'm saying. I do think that that's corny. I want to make my position clear.

That's corny. The young kid's doing it. The shit that they did with Amiche and the shit they're doing with Larry Hoover. When they announced Larry Hoover has been incarcerated since 1972 and I just sat and thought about how old I am and my life and how old he gotta be, you've been in jail before all of us was born.

Because I ain't seeing the 65 and 70 year old people commenting on this. It's all a bunch of people that just got here, just got shot out of penis when he was arrested already. Most of them people are dead. He and his wife are still together. They've been married 50 years. Like what are we talking about?

Nigga, I'm 49, I was born in 76. So he got locked up in 73, he'd been locked up for 52 years. 22 years old. And he was already grown when been locked up for 52 years. 22 years old. And he was already grown when he went to jail. So you 74 years old. Who the fuck is gonna be commenting on that? I just believe in redemption.

Me too. I believe no matter who you were at 22, that you can change. I know some people are against that. I believe that humans can change. I believe in that as well. Well, that's just this new generation that believes. Like when do you play your death to society? There's no growth whatsoever. They don't want, the internet generation don't want

any type of growth. You can tell when you're listening to niggas who didn't get spankings. Like you could tell niggas that was raised after spankings was dead. These niggas not only do they have opinion, they voice up there, why I wish I was brain-lamming with a nigga. Shut they also he also pardoned the Chris Lee's see mm-hmm and that and that be some reality show shit which is wild but whatever why's that well why's that well you know Todd Chris Lee Todd Chris Lee and his wife I can't remember what her name is um yeah I mean just, you know, they were charged with multiple counts of fraud and all kinds of shit.

Yeah. My whole thing be where do we, how do we pick, you know what I'm saying, like just random folks. But the daughter was doing some shit with Trump and was supporting them. Yes a million dollar a million dollar a plate dinner dinner So yeah Yeah, he don't play yo wash my back I'm gonna wash your back and that's how we move it

I just feel like at one point, you know when the president started their commutations or pardons and stuff like that, it was people who, you know, had been incarcerated and... Unjustly. Unjustly or it was like... Question rule. Or it was like, you know, just like a really, like, you know, an abnormally long sentence

about political prisoners, shit like that. And now it's like we're pardoning NBA Youngboy, I mean, you know, congratulations. But Todd Chrisley and his wife, like it's just fucking weird. Like the selection of people to be pardoned and stuff like that. What's starting to be more and more and more evident

in my opinion is Money Talks. That's it. And they used to hide that money talks back in the day. So you could give a donation to a nigga under the table nobody would know, especially with the internet generation. Now, if you donate a million dollars a plate, everybody fucking knows. If you go get a jet overseas, the whole internet knows.

I think back in the day it was more hidden that these favors were going on. I don't wanna attack what you're saying, cause I agree. Money talks. The scary part is that celebrities seem to talk just as loud. Yeah, because you know what happens.

That's the scary part. What's a celebrity? Like we traded Brittany Griner for the merchant of death and thought it was fair value. Who was the GM? Based on. And I do think that she should have came. I don't please don't misinterpret.

No, I agree with that as well. But it's a thing, but how we value that over here versus how what other people may value is just the internet speaks. But when you are catering to Wayne, when you are catering to NBA young boy, when you cater into some of these celebrities, money comes from that indirect. Exactly. Money comes from that indirectly. Exactly. Money comes from that. Popularity comes from that. Like that's just different bro. Back to your celebrity. Again he was running and had Chef G in the mouth there with him. Like you get I'm saying like he's moving around with the what's gonna... Donald Trump is a celebrity. He's playing celebrity relationship games. No other

president really moved this way because they weren't celebrities first. Not just that no other president. He this way because they weren't celebrities first. Not just that, no other president. And he know that, like you were saying before, Trump understands the relationship aspect of everything. He understands people. I think, too, when we was talking about him during the election time, that the campaign that he ran, it was just masterful that whoever on his team understood,

yo, this demo, we need to go get Trick Trick. Donald Trump might not have known who Trick Trick was, bro. Somebody on my team, understood. Yo, this demo, we need to go get Trick Trick. Donald Trump might not have known who Trick Trick was. Somebody on my team knew that this man is influential out here in this demographic of people, so let's go get him. Right, Donald Trump? The gangsta's know the gangsta's. That's what I'm saying though.

It's different, it's different. No, no, I agree. Trump had his balls close to the Trick Trick then fucking Kamala had them. That's my. Trump knew, Trump had his balls close to the trick trick then fucking Kamala. And that's something else. That's my point I'm making though. So he understands like, yo, dog, the dude that went to jail for Trump. He pardoned him.

Oh yeah, yeah. So you're gonna go sit up for me and show your loyalty. I'm gonna show you. I got you. I got you. I'm coming right home. The relationship. Don't snitch.

Yeah, like so he just comes from that. Like, dog, Donald Trump was a casino owner in the 80s. He was talking to mobsters. He moves like a mobster. Atlantic City, gambling, all that shit back in the 80s. It wasn't no, ****

Right. It wasn't no, you know the other labels. Hey. No, I'm not, I'm saying. Don't even say it. No. None of that stuff was out here.

It was low key ****. Alright, here we go. We'll clean that up. No, I'm saying. Don't even say it. No. None of that stuff was out here. It was low key. All right. No. Go clean that up. No. You understand what I'm saying, dog. Let's go now. That nigga had the Pollywood real, you know what I mean?

And those lessons the average politician don't have. That boy will not let Joe Exotic out of jail. I'll tell you that one, man. I'm getting sad. I'm getting sad. Joe Exotic pouring his heart out. Yo, I didn't kill them people. I didn't feed them to the tigers. They know who did it and they just got me sitting here. Trump, please do something.

Trump is like, dog, get done here. What am I going to get from Joe Exotic? No voters come here. The future looks exciting because, and not exciting, that may be a poor choice of words. Because you know that he be on fuck shit. So at this point, you can sit down and think about it. You can sit down and think about it. You can sit down and think about it. The future looks exciting because, and not exciting, that may be a poor choice of words,

because you know that he be on fuck shit. So at this point you could sit home and just start throwing shit at the wall like. Maybe he will. What if he part in Puff? Yeah. Like what if he just start part, you start throwing mad names out there like.

He could really shake shit up with his pen. He could. Yeah. That's spooky shit. And another piece to the pardons that we want to put out here also is they just signed one of the, the bill. They call it the big beautiful bill.

So now we're going to throw all of these celebrities out here to distract you while we behind the scenes doing some real life shit that could affect everybody. If we're done with this, I would like to shout somebody out. By all means. Okay. I would like to, Spam is calling me. I would like to shout out

Faizon Zaki. Okay. Who's that? That is the 13-year-old winner of the 100th annual scripts spelling bee. I love the spelling bee. I know. I absolutely love the spelling bee. So imagine my surprise when I'm home and it comes on the news that not only is this

the 101, but the word that he won on was. Some wild shit eclair sees a Claire sissy month a Claire sysmont that's the word that he won on it's a French word it means clearing up the clearing up of something obscure King King use in a sense yeah whip your ass, Mo. Your word is, A, Claire C Small. A, Claire C Small. E, C. Now before he does this.

He ain't even asked Mo. Yeah, yeah, he didn't ask. Yo, yo, what's the word? No, he's ready to go. Prospect, P, R, O. Yeah, he just got. Clarification, sorry. You got A, though.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Would anyone here like to give it a go at spelling this word? I'm not even gonna hold you. I'm sorry. Would anyone here like to give it a go at spelling this word? I'm not. Not a chance. No. A-C-C-C-M-A-E-C.

Show us. A-C-C-C-C-M-A-E-C. Say it again. What's the word? What's the word? Fuck it, we're going to do it. A-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C I want some A Claire C small a Claire C small Small easy L

Hey, I think it's one. Yes, who sees I think it's to write so far E clear and see what? EC we was right. Oh, he's correct with it. He clear he spelled E clear it begins with E clear. Okay now it gets Clear see mom, I don't know to say your word is A Claire C small a clear see small he Nothing is it a small You gotta keep in mind this friend so it might be to go You got it. be, it might be. S-E-M-O-U-L-I. We got it.

What about you? E-C-L-A-I-R-C-I-S-S-E-M-E-N-T. What? That is correct. Yo, excuse me? No, no, no, no, no. Yes, I'm gonna say. E-C-L-A-I-R. Kissing my ass.

C-I-S-S-E-M-E-N-T. Are you crazy? Round of applause. Stop playing with him. Stop playing with him. That nigga was like, was he seeing my slur? I bet. Faizan Zaki had 13. Wow. Congratulations.

I'm such a fan of Spellabee. I am. What else do we have here? We got Larry Hard, Larry Hoover. Torrey Lanes. Torrey Lanes. It's more Torrey. Yo, I saw it on Big Freeze, right?

No, no, hell no. It ain't on Big Freeze. You got the beat. Take it further, Freeze. There's nowhere to take it. Take it super further. I don't believe you trying to. I saw it. Take it further, Freeze. Freeze, I just want you to take it super further. I don't believe you're trying to ice-off.

Take it further, Freeze. There's nowhere to take it. The Florida congresswoman has been saying that there was going to be new evidence dropped, and old evidence was repackaged as new evidence and dropped. That's really what happened. Okay. Like, everything that we've heard. Not just old evidence, but evidence that was forbidden.

Yeah, suppressed. Maybe sealed, suppressed. They dropped a website. They dropped a website. They're just dropping everything. With everything up there. We did get to see the body cam footage of her being interrogated after the incident.

What about the witness said he saw the woman shoot? No, he saw the women fighting. He saw the women fighting. The woman got out the back seat, rushed to the front seat, and they started fighting each other, getting out the car. Then he said he saw her shoot.

Oh, he did say that. But it started with a fight. And that part was never disclosed. Or even if it... He said what looks to be, what appeared to be a woman. He said it was dark, it was far, but I saw what appeared to be a woman do yada yada yada yada. And he asked him where was the man?

Where was the black man? He said he was in the back seat. He did. I know. How did he know he was in the back seat if it was like a dark night tinted window SUV? The doors opened up. He seen somebody get out.

And then eventually got out. And go to the other door. You're not helping the black man. No, I'm just asking for clarification. You don't play. Yeah, you don't play. The true crime mind came the fuck out, okay? I'm sorry, I'm just asking. clarification Anyway, no some of the legal shit that be going on behind closed doors is the most important shit.

Like the nigga that articulates the argument, he be fly, he be dope like the Cochran's and all of them that we see. But the people that be in behind closed doors like, yo, Roe versus blah, blah, blah. Doing the research. He said, yo, this should be stricken. And that'd be important evidence that they'll get suppressed. Yeah. Or the police didn't do something the right way they'll get that shit thrown out niggas have gone in it I just said it. Sorry searching case law. Sorry, uh, it shouldn't rub you just in Trump says he won't rule out pardoning

Did he have convicted we'll look at it Or you want to do it shake some up. I can believe I'm sorry and get a piece of money in the back But um, no like there have been times where somebody could be clearly guilty, right? Somebody might have shot somebody. How y'all got the murder weapon was y'all fucked up. Yeah. And so now they have to strike all of that shit.

The person could go free, just based on case law, and this shouldn't be admissible, this shouldn't be admissible, and now we can't bring it to court. So illegal search and seizure, all that kind of shit. Niggas got cold cases thrown out. Birds in the car. Birds in the car.

Illegal search and seizures. Home for you. You ain't read the nigga, they write some stupid shit, and the nigga will go home. And you have probable cause to pull his car over. I'm tired of this shit. You wanted to go protect black women. You wanted to go fuck two broads at the same time.

One of them got immunity. You still didn't get up there and say, that's the bitch that did it right there. I've been telling y'all for years to re-enact that girl, but who am I? What do I know? All y'all did was say that everybody that said that hated black women.

So I mean, y'all don't make it a comfortable, warm space for dialogue or to share or conversation to be had. I think two things would be true. I think he deserved to be there for not fighting this case properly. Yeah, that's all I take away from him right there. He ain't telling me nothing I didn't know. That right there. He ain't telling me

nothing I didn't know. Like all I see in this case is bad legal representation. If your lawyers did this and allowed it to go this way, what you want me to do? That's back then, I don't know what niggas paid for their attorney, but if the person that I need to throw everything on because that's who did something has immunity, then that's the perfect time for me to say,

hey, this is the person that did it. I don't know what he was trying to pull. Know what I think? That's true. No, you know what I think? What? I think he got caught up in the, yo, I'm not snitching. Cause I was going to make me look to the public.

Then have at it. Well, there you go. Salute. That's what he did. Think he was like, yo, I'm not snitching. Cause how it's gonna make me look to the public. Well, salute. That's what he did. Think he was like, yo, I don't have to snitch on her to prove my innocence. I just have to create a reasonable doubt. And I think they failed that creating. Well, they think.

Buddy, I don't care. Whatever. Stupid seeds grow stupid plants. I don't care about this. Like we've done this for years. I'm on tour, I'm team Tory. I've been saying forever that he didn care about this. Like we've done this for years. Yo, that's how I feel, bro. I'm on tour, I'm team Tory. Same. I've been saying forever that he didn't do this.

I've been saying forever that now we stuck with Meg's music. Deal with it now. Yeah. Deal with it. I'ma wait to five years or half a many years is left till the talented young man can actually get back in a real recording studio so I can hear some music. Let me ask y'all this. Do y'all think this this new drop changes anything? No I don't think any of these new drops. That's my point like what do we try? I think it's

creating reasonable doubt with more people. Okay but does it change anything? Yeah does it change anything for him? It could. I mean, that's what their hopes are. Let's just say hypothetically, they bring it back to trial. Like the Innocence Project, go pick it up and then. Exactly, like the Menendez Brothers doc. Like if you could just get enough people in the court of public opinion to change how they see things,

then maybe we can get this thing retried. The Innocence Project's not picking this up. How you know that? Because the Innocence Projects, they. It don't sound like you're rooting for it, do you? No, it has nothing to do with that. It just has to do with the focus of the Innocence Project., they... It don't sound like you're rooting for it, do you? No, it has nothing to do with that. It just has to do with the focus of the Innocence Project. They basically go after cases that, of the wrongly convicted, based on DNA evidence,

you know, that has never been tested, you know, long-term prison sentences and stuff like that. That's usually what the Innocence Project goes after. You know there's a million programs that act as the Innocence Project? That's true. You know the Innocence Project is not the only program to... No, they have chapters in every state. No, there's other programs.

But if we're going to be talking about the Innocence Project itself... I was just saying a group that would pick it up. I just use their name specifically. Any group would pick this up. He might have luck on the appellate court circuit. Well, speak like that then. Yeah, like speak more. Can you give me a second? Shit.

Remember, when we were talking about it initially, it sounds like your mom was made up. It's time to dog pound now. No, not dog pound. No, I'm not dog pounding, but I want to ask you. Even though there's new evidence that come out, you probably was aware of the evidence, does it not change your view on the situation?

Hold on, wait, wait, Joe, come on, man. Sorry, I didn't mean to talk like that. Does it not change your view on the situation, man? Like, it seems like once your mind is made up, it's made up. But since the new evidence- No, that's not true. I said it seems like, I could be wrong. I promise.

I will always leave room for my mind to be changed based on new information. I don't just stick to something just because that's the opinion that I have. I'm always welcome to hearing new information. So what about the information that came up? But it just sounds like, like I said, it just sounds like it's old information repackaged. Okay. You know, and we've had this conversation before where we've all said that the sentence

was, you know, exorbitant. Excessive. Yeah, excessive. I got it. You know, but. My girl got the new shades. Hey, Tori, she got your back now, boy. Come on.

Any who's. The American dream. She trying to stop, please. Oh my God. I'm good. I'm down with you. I like what you had, but clean it up. I told on Kelsey so fucking fast.

I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm please. Oh my God. I'm good. I'm down with you, I like what you had, but clean it up.

I had a toad on Kelsey so fucking fast. You crazy. You can't do that, that snitching. Yeah, that's right. I don't subscribe to that dumb shit. That's not true, that's not true, you subscribe to it. I don't subscribe to that. Yeah, yeah, you know where y'all come from,

you can't do that. I don't subscribe to that. That's not, I hate when you do that because you change to get money now. That is not true. How? That's not true, bro. How much? Ain't the point of getting money to change?

Why are you saying that? Because I just, no, too many stories I heard about you from real niggas and other niggas, That is not true. That's not true, bro. Ain't the point of getting money to change? Cause I just, too many stories I heard about you from real niggas and other niggas. It's not true. That was back before he got money. If you would have been told, is there plenty of situations you could have told on? Oh no, no, no.

No, no, listen to me. He wasn't looking at your ears. No, no, so what he's saying is true. What he's saying is true. There has been, a nigga tried to blow my brains out, I ain't go to court. So what he's saying is true. Shit, the nigga that punched me in the face

is a court case. I'm not going to the police and say, Shit, the nigga that punched me in the face is a court case. I'm not going to the police and say, hey, a nigga that punched me in the face do something about it. Now I did snitch on that nigga that stole my luggage out of LaCroix. You took it too far. He took it too far.

No, you took it too far. No, you took it too far. He took it further. They found him though. God damn right they found him with my assistance. He wouldn't let it go. With my. They found him though. He's got damn luck they found with my assistance. He wouldn't let it go. With my help they found him.

This nigga was a private eye on the job. And I got a restraint order on that. I don't know what he looked like. They sent a text to my phone, yo, just letting you know. You got a restraint order? They let him out, automatically. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, cause he, yeah. You was ready to paint me in that nasty.

I was. Automatically they do it. So when they sent me the text. Automatically cause you ratted? Yeah. He could do something to you me in that nasty. I was. Automatically they do it. So when they sent me the text. Automatically because you ratted? Yeah. He could do something to you as a retribution? Yeah, automatically because I wanted to press charges. They automatically put a restraining order.

When this person can't come near you, I'm ready to do this thing. Yeah, they do that. So they sent me the text. But I had forgot that I ratted. I'm going to quickly. What's your problem? No, no, no, for real. My memory is bad.

You thought it was like your gun license. You were like, oh, it's a bullshit gonna scam scam likely. No, I've seen a tech that thought somebody had a restraining on on me Joe button is the defendant play to protect myself. Oh, they let me know this thing is this game Oh, all right. Yeah, I ran it on him But I'm gonna punch me in my face. I'm gonna try to kill me fucking the appointment We're a man telling them niggas, but I guess what I'm saying is I reserved the right to that's different I'm not not telling because I'm following the script. It's your Your freedom is on the line. I'm not going to sit up in years for some shit

I ain't do for nobody like homie homie that punched me in my face, when we got the drop on him, it's like, all right, he's a fucker, he's on parole, he got warrants, it's like, nah. But that's not your freedom on the line. That's not your freedom. You lucky that, you know what I mean? Don't do it again.

I press charges on girls. Listen, wait, what? Freeze. What are you talking about? You press charges on girls. You check that cut all that shit up in my crib? Yeah. You like to press charges? Yes. You pressed charge on me. The chick that cut all that shit up in my crib, yep. If you like to press charges, yes.

Oh shit, Fred. Yes. You set her up in an order. Yeah, you sure? I swear to God. She got arrested? No, so what happened, my stepfather. Praise.

My stepfather called me, and he was like, yo, yo, you can't do that. And I'm like, why? You see my shit? My whole house is fucked up. He was like, yo, but dog, listen, you don't know what just one night in jail could do to somebody.

Like that girl whole life could be fucked up. I didn't care. I'm like, good, good. Little rotten bitch. That's what we're trying to do. But he really broke it down to me, like, cause he was, you know, he been through the system and shit.

Nah, you know what I'm saying. You have to be real talker. Nah, you know how that shit. He was just like, yo, it could really fuck up, like everything. I hear you talking to a girl. That's crazy. Well, first off.

She cut his refrigerator corn, nigga. I didn't go, I wasn't going to the house. He don't cook. No, look, real shit, I wasn't going to the house without, like, when she told me when she was, I'm going to your house to fuck your shit up, I called them. And I'm like, I need an escort to go home in case she's there. So now you can't say I did something to your house to fuck your shit up. I called them. And I'm like, I need an escort to go home

in case she's there. So now you can't say I did something to you. I'm protecting myself. I always want somebody around. If shit go left, you can't say I did something. Cause now once it becomes my word versus yours, I lose automatically. And I know that.

I know too many people that got fucked up that way. So when she left me that message, first thing I did on my way home was call them they was like come by the station go home with an escort just in case I'm like yeah you know a good idea that's what I'm gonna do they took note of everything you got escort for the nice yes my I don't playing with my freedom. I was talking about the other. I don't play with my freedom. Just listen to us for a second. Oh, sure, please. Have at it. Come on.

Because we're here for this. No, no, for real. You my brother. So you right and I understand. Whatever you talking about, that's cool. We not here for this. We here. I got history. We here. Hold on, get your jokes off. We here for the fun. We here. Fuck out of here Sharif.

Hold on get your jokes off. Get your jokes off. You can call the cops. He didn't really press charges. Nah he was dead. You don't press charges. Yes. I only like the...she little. So she was a little chick.

I don't care. Yo you a wild boy, man. It's your fault, Ice. If you wouldn't get them to that point, then they wouldn't have to do those things. True, Ice. Cool, but also control yourself. Don't listen to him.

No, no, you were wrong. Oh, no. You should have took her feelings into consideration before you decided to cheat and get caught in eating. Because that is a bullshit excuse. Did you get caught eating in real time? I did. That people who don't know how to regulate their emotions,

that's what they say. There you go. I'm angry and it's your fault. Mel, talk that shit, Mel. It's your fault that I am enraged. Freeze got caught. I wish I could put this shit on a video clip and have it on a flash drive from my pocket.

The next time you blame some female's niggas in the flash. Actions on a nigga. I want you, I want. Nigga, he's so old. Yo, where's my racial stuff? He said a flash drive. Yeah, talk this shit, I could just throw that shit out. Niggas actions on a nigga. I want you Just blame everything that fucking party is doing off set What you blame everything card he doing off set nothing? I said she's out here living her life He cheated first. He did this first.

He did that first. I didn't say that she's dating such and such because he cheated. I told y'all it was time to dogpile. You ain't wanna listen. I did not say that at all. She's living her motherfucking life. I'm not dogpiling on that.

But when can we dogpile? Never, leave her alone. I'm not dogpiling on that. She's been bothering us. In about an hour. Oh, never. Hey. Oh. Y'all shall not dogpile now. At all. 11th an hour. Oh, never. Never. Oh. Shal-shal, not dog-pow-mal.

At all. 11th commandment. I mean, I'm like dogs. Freeze, you got caught cheating in the cr- Or piles. You that nigga, Freeze. What? You got caught cheating in the crazy position, boy.

He got caught cheating, the girl cut his shit up, and then he- He got caught eating ass, and she caught him. Hey, how you do- Yo, that's vicious. How the girl that was- how the girl you was eating didn't hear her coming through? Y'all niggas, you was that much into it? Yo, that's vicious. How the girl that was, how the girl you was eating didn't hear her coming through? Y'all niggas, you was that much into it?

Yo. Damn, you didn't hear the door. That nigga is Captain Crunch, nigga. I get it. I hate you, nigga. Nigga, I hear somebody coming to the door. Oh, hey. You got hot.

You got hot, bitch. Hot. Jump out the window. You got to wash your feet. On some chlorine shit. Hey, bro. Hey, bro. Hey, you're kissing too some Corey shit. Hey, bro. Hey, you kissin' too nasty, nigga.

Why you have breath smell like that? I just woke up. Salmonella. I just woke up. Oh, man. I was busy, man. I ain't hearin'. That's crazy. Your story's just crazy.

I don't do that no more. Y'all know that fast Rihanna EDM sound and song came out. We never covered it That's the one from the Smurf soundtrack. Yeah, it was ass. This is like the one from the Black Panther soundtrack I know but why niggas can't say it was ass with their chest say it with the chest It was ass She just you can't say it was ass. And the Black Panther soundtracks was ass You can't say shit is ass when somebody's pregnant So she owed for two to fuck ass The Black Panther one wasn't ass. It just wasn't. The Black black panther one was black Panama was not a it was that it was a ballad you want right

that was yeah me horrible this dispersion was she was barely I couldn't barely even tell if she was on this is Rihanna like just a legacy act now yes Yes. Yes. Yeah. No, like. Yo, Corey. Yo, Corey. Corey, play it right. What the fuck are you doing? Hey, Ice-T. Yo, this is the one. Ice-T. Yeah.

Is Rihanna just a legacy act now? No, no. Yes. Come on, Pauks. Yes. She is, until she puts on more music. I say yes to it. What does a legacy act mean?

A legacy act tours based on a old catalog, right? That's what she about to do. She ain't gonna do that. She not touring. Number one, number two, and she came on the music. She will not Legacy Act tours based on a old catalog, right? Yeah, that's what she about to do. She ain't gonna do that. She not touring. Number one, number two, and she came on to make a new music. She will not tour until she puts another album out. What do we want to call her? Anything based on, anything Rihanna based is based off, you're basing off old music.

Off 10, 15 year old music. That's a Legacy Act. That's a Legacy Act. I know that we still looking forward to hearing new music, but she ain't gonna put no new music out. I know, and she ain't going on nobody's tour either. That makes her a legacy act. I don't think it'd be on tour to be a legacy act.

She's a legacy act. I'm gonna find out. Well, we're here at that ADM's pop and smurf shit. Get the fuck out of here. I don't give a fuck. But the black pen and shit was not bad. I don't care about how fly them clothes is, or ASAP is wearing, I'm cool.

I turned that ADM's, I was like, oh shit, I missed the Rihanna bop, I heard that shit. I was like, oh, that's why nobody covered this. Yes. There's a reason nobody's covering this shit. I was like, oh, that's why nobody covered this. Yes. There's a reason nobody's covering this shit. And she's earned, like a lot of people just won't admit, won't say it. Because she's pregnant, nigga.

It ain't got nothing to do with the pregnancy. I love Rihanna so much. She's earned a pass with a lot of niggas. Yeah, I think she's a legacy. Based on definition, she's a legacy, yeah. Yeah, definitely. All right. We have a very, very, very special guest. Indeed. Yes, definitely. All right. We have a very, very, very special guest.

Indeed. Yes, sir. We have a very, very, very, very, very special guest in the building. This person has stood me up before. This is somebody who hit me before. Like, yo, I'm in New York. Let me come to the pod. And then went Ghosts.

Ooh. This is certainly one of my favorite artists. I think I've made that perfectly clear in this piece. You definitely have. I've heard a lot about this particular person outside of the music too now that we gonna finally get to clear up. Oh yeah.

Actually, I ain't even here to play no games with them. There we go. I ain't even here to play no games with them now ladies and gentlemen make some noise for jazzy I'm less than shit, I'm trying to be I'm just trying to be Hold up now I'm under the best walk on ever Yo, get my girl Mike right Let's get my girl Senna right While the hook, while the bridge be

Hey, I don't wanna be in this world alone Right after this hook, I'm coming up, brother I don't wanna be someone alone Swallow Right after this hook I'm coming up, bruh I'm feeling me, so wanna go Hey So wanna go We let this rock for a minute It goes So I'm ready

With care Come on man I wanna be With care, you're gonna be Feel this fire, your heart will go All day long That's a classic bro, damn. You ain't got to tell me. Damn that song. You ain't got to tell me what that one do right there. He said I stood him up. Y'all supposed to be... Let's get them together right.

What y'all mean? Damn. Oh my God. Josie is in this piece right here. Question, do you impress yourself? I think I'm tough on myself, M. Like, I'm not even gonna hold you.

M, see, you gotta pay attention. Who's M? Who's M? You gotta hold. Miss Ford. I am. Miss Ford. I am, I am.

Miss Ford. I'm not even gonna hold you. Can I tell y'all, like, Melissa, like, yeah, you are a big part of who I am as far as knowing I like girls. So when I was like, yeah, you are a big part of who I am as far as knowing I like girls. So when I was like, no. No, I'ma tell you the story, bro. Like, I kid you not.

Oh, we outta here. I remember the King magazine, I was in band class. It was like, I had to be like fifth grade, sixth grade. And my boys, this is like, you couldn't really be gay in Memphis, like you couldn't really be like that. And my boys was passing the, your king joint in the band class and it came to me and I said. Look at your face, close your mouth. I said, what the fuck?

In my head, but around my niggas, I was like, ooh nigga, I don't wanna see that shit. But the whole time I'm like, oh my God. I was like, yo, what is this? I went to LineWire and I started looking at all your videos and I was like, yo, Melissa Ford, I'm in love. And I used to like, yeah, you were a big part of me knowing I like women. Clap it up for that.

Yeah. Legend. I mean, I don't give a fuck. I'm going to say it. I appreciate that. Then she went to open, yeah. Legend. I mean, I don't give a fuck, I'ma say it. I appreciate that. Then she went to open that drawer. Shit. Hey.

Hey. God. Yeah, nah, you was the one. I appreciate that. Thank you. I remember what you had on on that king of the city. Yeah. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Then she went to pop the drawer. Nah, I was still great. We ain't like, we ain't none of that going on, bro. Oh, oh, oh, oh. We ain't none of that going on. Okay. It, oh, oh, oh, oh. But none of that going on, man. It was just, you know, it was innocent. Condor, innocent. Oh, man.

Put it down. Listen, look at Mel. Mel, she's the cheesiest. Mel don't know how to act with compliments. Come knock it off. No, you deserve it. You deserve all your flowers. Thank you. Well, we're gonna give you all your flowers today because we are huge fans up here. Thank you. Thank you

I already have one of my questions answered. Jossie. I heard a lot about you outside of music Mm-hmm when I wasn't too familiar and before you dropped what went to be on went on to be one of my favorite EPs They was like, yo, Josie been around, her pen, she be writing, but also. She got him. Snipe. She got him. She a sniper.

I don't know where this folk war came from. This is like. And y'all be messing it up for my wife, my future wife, cause like, she gonna hear this and she think that I'm, and then I got to prove this wrong. Then I went to your page and I did some peeking around and I was like, oh, she got him.

She got him. She got him. You got him. I do not have nothing. You got him. You can't claim. No, I swear to God, I want, I want, you know what's so funny, bro?

You don't got nothing that's as yours. I don't think that's true. You had funny, bro. You don't got nothing. It's yours The charisma the personality She said I need to go that's my life My own shit, I ain't telling you what I'm wearing now. She can sing a lot of lies. She smells like the Wall Street Oils, nigga. Hell shit. Not the one-two-fifth of Wall Street. The good shit.

The shit that I did. Now, Jazzy smells absolutely amazing. Jazzy, you all know it. That means a lot. So you're making the rounds. I'm assuming that you got some music coming. Yeah, I'm making it. Yeah, bro.

I heard a Khalees flip. So what's so funny, you ain't even a flip twin? That's like, shout out to Stereotypes. You know, if you know Stereotypes, they did 24k magic for uptown funk. Super fire. They're cold. So like, they just know how to like find the sonics, but not the flip. Yeah, like, and that's what I love. I'm really a student at this, like, I know how to like get that sound, but not having to flip shit. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, I got a new single that's about to drop called Doggum. I'm on a new label, BMG.

Shout out to BMG for like... I got a second chance. A lot of people don't really get second chances. I feel like the Lord gave me opportunity to have a second chance as an artist because I had a little moment where I had to kind of sit down for a minute. So I'm here though. Well what was going on in that time? In my mind? Both.

Well in life, I was with love records. I was with love records. So I just had to get out of that situation because there was no more love records. Right. When did you I just had to get out of that you know situation because there was no more love records Right. When did you know you had to get out of there? Boy My when I went home my mama said I was going up the steps and she looked at me said you know You gotta get out of there. I was like alright I was like alright mama knows

That was like Thanksgiving Like last year. Because I ain't gonna hold you when you hit me and like yo I'm ready to come up there and do an interview. In my head, I was saying, if I went, Josie, I don't know if I'd be doing a run right this second. I might let it sit for a second. But you said, fuck that, I'm outside.

And I didn't do it. I didn't come to do the interview. Oh, before? Yeah. Yes, no you didn't. Like, I had so many people in my ear. So I had one of my friends like, yeah do it, go go go. And then I had another one of my friends is like, they always be like, what would Beyonce

do? Shut the fuck up. That's a good question to ask. So that's how I live my life. I'm not saying what would be, but for real for real, Josie, just put your head down, down do what you need to do and then when it's time for you to go up here you know like you gonna go up here for the right way you know because like I know this world man America's like so drama-filled I could have came up here and said some shit and yeah it would have got attention but I'm really not

trying to I'm really I'm really not I don't want to be in no drama like and it's not really even your drama to be in you know you know it's not for you to defend anybody It's not for you to but you came after everything. I know Well, yeah, I Right I came in a good a great time of his like life like 2023 Yeah, it's 2023. Yeah, 2022. I came in good, like a great time. Everything was just peace, positive, R&B. Like, it was just beautiful and I really was, I really am proud of myself on just actually getting him and getting us to make, completing the album, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, it was just a, it was a great time for music,

especially for me, because I'm a, I'm a student, Like, you know, I came under Timbaland and Missy. I'm a nigga that, like, I like instruction. Like, I hate being the smartest nigga in the room. I hate that shit. I really don't like being the smartest person in the room. Like, I be wanting to learn. But like, I've been the smartest person in a lot of rooms recently.

So seeing him, I was like, I... So some of the songs that y'all worked on are still on the project? Or is this a new batch or so now? What you mean? Did you take anything when you left? From the shit that y'all worked on? No. Everything is new. Yeah. Everything is new. Everything. How much was left? How much did you have to walk away from?

Of music? Music? Yes. So what's so funny? So me being a writer, you know how like Pop, I'll take Pop because I know this, like Pop could do a hundred songs. I ain't that type of person bro, like Songs for Women was Songs for Women. I didn't do any more songs until it was time for me to work on a new album. So it was like Songs for Women, then it was the Love album, and all that shit happened. I just chilled. I was working on a few things still as a songwriter. And then when I got out, that was when I had time to focus on my artistry and just lock in on me. So yeah, I'm not a person that just does music just to do it. So you don't just write in your spare time either? No.

Really? She outside. I'm a person, I gotta live. You write jokes. But no, you can be in the shower and some shit come to your mind, you just get out and jot it down. None of that. Sometimes.

But no, I'm a person, somebody will send me a beat, I'm like, all right, I'm a person like somebody send me a beat I'm like, I'm not gonna listen to it until I get to the studio cuz I'm a person Whatever in my first mod. I'm a freestyler So don't send me to be in the car like I need to be in the studio ready You know in my vibe cuz I'm it's so weird the way I like work, you know So like I'll be telling producers they'd be like, you know, you know I'm like, well send it to me when I'm in the studio, you know when I'm work, you know what I'm saying? So I be telling producers, they be like, yo, you know what I'm like, well send it to me when I'm in the studio, when I'm ready. So yeah, that's kinda how I do it.

You said your mom told you you had to get out of that situation and was it hard for you to get out? Like mentally or like? Both. Actually both. He is notorious for holding people hostage in their contracts. I never told nobody this, right? I'll tell it to us.

Yeah, I'm going to tell y'all. Because this feels like therapy. It's a safe space. No, I'm joking. But literally, so everything happened. So we left London right after the London November, that was after his gig show, then the Cassie shit came out. I didn't know anything. I was like, yo, this is horrible. I went home for Thanksgiving and I went back to Memphis and

then my mama was like, she told me that. I already knew but when your mama tell you something, my mama don't ever get in my bed. When you say the casting shit bro, the news or the video? No, just the news. Just the news. So you don't like, it's just the news. It's just like what she said.

The suit. Yeah. So that was it, that's all I had. My mama was like, nah, cause you know domestic abuse is big, I don't talk about, my sister was killed by her's all I had. My mama was like, nah, cause you know, domestic abuse is big. I don't talk about my sister was killed by her husband. So my mama don't play, we don't really play with domestic abuse.

But the thing about it is, her husband did not go to jail. He was actually still in our church. He was still the deacon in our church. So you gotta understand, that's a different type of, and my brother was locked up for 10 years, so my brother, the hate, he couldn't do nothing. It was like, then my parents is very churchy, so they like forgive, and so which is, which

we should do, we should have grace with everybody. It's not our battle, it's really God's battle, so I understand that aspect of it. So like, so that's the struggle. That's where my mama looked at me and was like, no. I was like, fuck. So you're right, I know I got to, but when your mama say it, you really gotta do it. So before New Year's Eve, I went to Miami to go to his house.

I flew there to see him. And he was like, man, you about to leave me like when it's tough. You're damn straight. So here, I was here, here, here. Manipulation, yo. Then my, this, I was like, bro, Puff, I was like, um, if I was your artist and I did something

that morally correct, you would be like, Jazzy, I love you, but you bad for business. And that nigga looked at me and said, you right, I'ma let you out. And like, I just had to just keep it real with him and me. And like, he was, you know, letting me know it was a money grab. I didn't know what everything was until, you know.

But I just knew that like, bro, if I did anything crazy, even if it was fake or if it was real, you would be like, Josie, I love you, but I can't fuck with you right now. And he knew that. And so I think me coming to Miami and chilling with him, and after we did that, we watched a movie. We went to this theater and watched a movie and just I left and then he was

just like yo you know this is my cross the bear and he was just like at peace with it and uh yes. What did he with you? Bro, get the fuck off. When it rains, it pour. Rain and cats and dogs. It was a TV show, it was a show, but it was about a cancer, I can't even, it was a cancer patient. The Big C? What was it? The Big C? What is that about? It's about a woman. A woman?

Yeah, blonde woman, cancer. I think that may be it. That was it. That may be it. It was about a woman with cancer. She's on HBO. It's a show on HBO, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

That's what we watched. Did it? What we watched. Sit in that moment when you talked to him, right? Did it? What did it do for you emotionally? Because even when you tell the story, it seemed like it was a, not saying it was a tough decision,

I don't want to put you in that position, but you had to make the decision, but how was it to talk to him and look him in the eyes and actually tell him this and for him to actually say, you know what, I got you, I'm gonna let you go, after hearing the stuff about him, how he does with artists. And because like that could, with you, I'ma let you go after hearing the stuff about him, how he does with artists. And cause like that could, with you,

he just said, I got you, I let you go. It could change your perspective on how, not saying you had a different look on him, but it could just be like, oh damn, like he's being human right now. If you know what I mean. You gotta understand, bro, before I signed to Love Records, everybody in they mama told me don't sign him.

But it was about bad, he's bad. Only thing was he's bad business. Like it was nothing else. No, no, like, you know, that was it. It was just the bad business part. So, but at the time, I had great management, great lawyers. I've had so many shitty contracts that I knew that if I'ma sign with him,

my contract gonna be so cold. It was gonna be right. And so I was with him, my contract gonna be so cold. It's gonna be right. And so I was with Roc Nation, J Brown at the time. Hey, J Brown. So J Brown was not playing. That nigga, he really looked after me with his contract. So I knew that my contract was good.

So it was all like, I knew that when I got with Puff and when I looked in his eyes, I knew that he was really going to... I don't know. It's just me and him had a different little energy. I don't know. He really loved me. He really did. I can't even act like that nigga, he fucked with me.

And to the point where I could say some things to him, then the next day, he'd be like, yeah, you right. You know what I'm saying? You right, I, you know, so like, I don't know. So I just, I just looked in his eyes. I just felt it. I was like, I really knew he was gonna let me out my country. I didn't feel, you know, like most people probably would have let their lawyers go and do it.

I was like, yo, I'm going to just go to this nigga. Cause at the time, I don't know what's real or what's fake. I'm just hearing, and I'm like, yo, this is bad. I gotta get out, I pray for you, but I'm gonna to just go to this nigga. Cause at the time I don't know what's real or what's fake. I'm just hearing and I'm like, yo, this is bad. I gotta get out. I pray for you, but I'm gonna let you, you know what I'm saying? But so yeah, but I never not felt like once felt like, um, he wasn't gonna let me out. I'd like to ask you about, uh, I'm on record saying that his last album is,

well, it was Grammy nominated before it wasn't. No, she was fine. It was Grammy nominated before it wasn't. Nah, she was fine. It was Grammy nominated before it wasn't because the stories broke out. But I would like to ask you about this song in particular. Baby won't you come home? Baby won't you come home? Baby won't you come home? I'm trying to get you out of my head.

This song, this is called Homecoming, this is off the Love album. This shit is off. Yeah. I tried to get you out of my head. This song, this is called Homecoming. This is off the Love album. This shit is off. This is one of my favorite songs on that album, but after the news broke. I know bro. This song sounded a lot more eerie than it originally did. I'd like to ask you about the creative process for this.

The part that he played in this song being written. Yeah. And when the story broke, did you then look at some of the music y'all created with through a different lens? Because this song sounds like, this is craziness to... Oh! I absolutely love this song, but it does sound a little like a love letter that you shouldn't be writing to somebody that you had those experiences with.

Well, we are all human. We all have experiences of losing your girl and not everybody loses their girl with domestic abuse. Yeah, of course. You know what I'm saying? Out of like, that's that, so that record was a little bit about him, but a lot a bit about me. That was a lot about me and my ex. She in New York too, what's up?

Yo, you hear the voice? You see this? What's up? You see this, baby? You what? But, yeah, you know what I'm saying? But anyway, so yeah, that was about my ex, but he did tell me a story. You what? But yeah, you know what I'm saying? But anyway, so yeah, that was about my ex.

But he did tell me a story. He did tell me a story. All he told me was, my trainer took my girl. You know what I'm saying? And like, I don't know what's going on. Like, I didn't know any of, like, I just know, let me tell you, I promise y'all, bro, he put Cece, he said Cece, in it, and I told him in the studio, I was like, bro, I think you should take her name

out the song. And this was just because, bro, you a hoe. My boy, you a hoe, like, let her be happy. It was all about the women, like, I know that you're not really, like, she's happy, she married, so I'm at the, I'm not like, you just a dog, that's how I she married. So I'm like, you just a dog. That's how I'm looking at it, not like any other type of way. So I was like, take her name out the song, bro,

she happy, ah, ah, ah. And he was like, I'm gonna do it. He took it out. The whole time, it was, cause we did it during the camp. I was in another room. I did like seven songs that night. That was just one song that I did.

So the next day it come back, bro. And he's a lot of yes men around him. He just got so many yes dick eating ass niggas around him. No disrespect. And like, um, and so, and so when I came back, somebody done got him riled up. I'm like, I'm like, you put it back in? He was like, fuck that, this my truth.

And I looked at, I looked at one of the engineers, I said, one of y'all niggas told a nigga to keep that in there, huh? And I just, I knew somebody got in his head, I was like, nah, fuck that. I was like, it only take one person to hype him up. You know what I'm saying? Or it take one person to be like, nah, my nigga, nah.

And I'd normally be that nigga like, nah, nah. And like, he did it, bro. But but I didn't know I just thought it was just Bro, you still out here vibing with joints like good. She let her be happy, you know, and so so if I'm taking the writing in this to be a lot of your story, too, then You a hating ass nigga on the writing tip. Let me know. Look. Look.

Look. What do you mean by this? If he is. If it's not good to you. Oh, okay. So you want her to leave the new person she talking with. Yeah, 100%. Come back, come back home.

100%, because I'ma tell you why. With my situation, I'ma tell you why I fuck up. Everybody in here has been there. Yeah, nah, I'ma tell you what with my situation. I'm gonna tell you Can I explain that with no twin yeah, please all right, and that's not a hate Girl why don't you listen to us? Your words. I know that you got questions about my new chick. Do you? Just know that you're my favorite girl. Y'all must not be good with y'all exes. That's mad manipulative.

Y'all must not be good with y'all exes. I'm good with all of my exes or something, one that I really want back. That just so happened to be in New York right now? Yeah, because it's my fault. I fucked up, because I said, yo, let's do an open relationship. I did that.

I opened that door. I know I'm a dummy. I'm a dummy. But why'd you do that? I be feeling myself sometimes too. Like, you know what? Yo, see who you want to see. I'ma see who I want to see.

I'm tired of these restraints. But then. You see who she shows up with and you're like, oh. No, it's never about who she shows up with. It's always somebody that looks better. I don't care about that. That's not what that is. Okay, so then what happened?

No, it's just that, okay, so I'm not a long distance person. So she moved to New York and she said she was gonna be there for three months and she ended up being here for a long time. So I was like, all right, so I don't know if I can do this long distance relationship. So you go on dates, I'm gonna go on dates. But I was around a lot of toxic, I think just a lot of niggas had hella girls around me and it was going crazy. And so I was, it was just too much.

It was too much. That greed, yo. It was too much. That greed, yo. It was too much, and I had to really get back into my feminine energy and be like, you don't need all that, you need one person. You know what I'm saying? But I had to go through that little,

I had to go through my little phases and my moments. Get out the masculine shit, get the feminine. Did you ever date niggas? No, I kissed a dude before. Okay, okay. This was high school though, like this is like, this is a dude before. Okay. Okay. This was high school though. Under the cherry moon. This is after Melissa Ford.

After the King? After the King magazine, boy. A.K. After King. A.K. Well, wait, why'd you kiss a dude then? A moment of curiosity? I'm from Memphis, man.

We couldn't be gay in the 2000s. Like that, like that, that, my, like what? I just. So it was just performative? Gay in family mad churchy. Yeah. Man, that shit, man, what? How are your parents with you now?

Like knowing that you're out. My pop, he cool. My pop is like, yeah. Cause he, you know, he's like, yo, you like me. I know How my pop be acting with me but my mama's We got a don't it's like a like military don't ask don't say and I respect that like at the end of the day I tell every girl that's with me like you may never meet my mama Are you cool with that and you got to understand like it's not about

Their life anymore. It's like my pop my pop always preached the prod the prodigy like the prodigal son Like there's a world that your parents can't go into You know saying there's a world that your parents can never go into like so Let's build our own world our own family because you know like but if you try to meet my mom is bad It's not going so for that over for that. She ain't gonna like you cuz mama still mama. We gonna we gonna give her that respect Yeah, I love her but now you she not she not letting you come over. Yeah Tell me about the new record. Yeah, that's not tossing. No. No, I didn't say it was talking. I just said tell me about This is maybe I love this record as well

Jazzy got joints I thought she's gonna come here with the unreleased project You can do whatever you want up here Hey Sco, bring my songs to me Or a Kasta your Kasta Hey Hey Lawrence Hey Lawrence What you really mean You never answer my questions With a straight answer You keep it in the middle

You're busy as sun You wanna stay home Cause I know you're busy Cause I middle You're busy and so now You wanna stay home Cause I know you're busy You might need some time You got a playlist to put on what you're trying to steal niggas bitches With me No, with me

There's a lot of things that I could handle girl But there's just one thing Oh, oh, oh, oh Don't treat me like a maid Like a maid Tell me yes or no Your musical inspirations are who? Man, oh my goodness

Cause I don't know if I'm wrong or not, I don't know if it's the Puff affiliation When I listened to the EP I heard so much What's the 411. Thank you. Like, I was like damn, Puff lucked out finding somebody else who can get married to that hip hop sound and then write and flip shit. Like, that's what I heard.

But who are your musical inspirations? Chuckie Thompson. Chuckie Thompson. Puff. That's goddamn right, yeah. Hands Down Thompson. Okay. Puff. That's goddamn right. Yeah. Hands down.

Mary J. Blige. I did her last whole album, the one Good Morning Gorgeous. Oh, I worked on that album too. That was a great album. Thank you, bro. Mary, Carl Thomas. I love Sisqo. Y'all niggas be laughing when I say Sisqo.

Why? He is such a crazy boy. Niggas be laughing when I say Sisqo. 20 somethings laugh. Maybe, yeah. Maybe, yeah. So, y'all niggas be laughing when I say Cisco. Why? Why? He is such an incredible vocalist. Niggas be laughing when I say Cisco. Nigga, the 20 somethings laugh.

Maybe, yeah, maybe. Yo, y'all, he was like, when I say Cisco around my friends. We know, we know. We know, fam. It's not even Cisco. We know you went on tour with Cisco. It has nothing to do with the fact

that I was the lead in his video and went on tour with him. Show us. Show us. He is fucking incredible. I love you, Lit, or I'm so glad in the video. and went on tour with him. He's the lead in that video. He is fucking incredible. Hey, yo, you lead, huh? She was on tour with Cisco. That's crazy.

Thumb era? Yes. Yeah, Thumb song. That's crazy. Mm-hmm. But that's what I do. Yes, Unleash the Dragon, bro. I love this album.

This album is amazing. It is. Amazing. They don't talk about that shit like that. No, they don't. Well that shit like that. No they don't. Well that's because. Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Cisco bugged that fool over there. Oh, I didn't know he did that. Oh, I got it right there. I just saw it on Cisco. I just saw it on Cisco. Yeah, you wanna play it for you? It's going viral again.

Sure, go ahead. I did not know. I did not know. I'm not on TikTok. Really? I never knew until the TikTok shit, I swear. And that's how R. Kelly say something about him. Yeah, he clap back. Cisco, you a bomb. He said it on the spot.

I always mention Cisco, but he's a bomb. That makes sense. I can hear that in what you're saying. It's cause I'ma tell you, those guys just knew how to like do ad-libs Like Puff used to stress to me like nigga after the song you need to like just go crazy Cuz like a lot of people don't do that like in their songs on at the end Yeah, and I think that's what's so R&B about it is like doing something different at the end Cisco and like Jodeci used to go crazy. Yep. They're so good at doing ad libs, man.

And that's where I come from, I come from that time. And even Mary, like, oh, oh, oh, oh, it's like. Oh, yeah. Man, it's so good. And it just feels good to your soul. And it's so funny, because I see younger kids, and they be thinking I created the sound. I'm like, nah, like, nigga, hold on.

I be like, yo, that's new. I'm like nah, like nigga, hold on. We're like yo, that's new. I'm like it's really not. But to them, they don't know Cisco. They don't know the listen to Incomplete Cisco. You have like a nostalgic sound and so does Teyana Taylor. Both of you have that like that 90s R&B sound. Yeah, now Titi's, she's 90s in everything she does, bro. I love that about her.

Yeah, cold. Same. Cold, bro. 90s and everything she does. I love that about her. Yeah, cold. Same. Cold, bro. 90s fun. I would love new music from you, Tiana Taylor. Wink. What? Wink.

Well, I think both projects are classics. She another one. She another one. That's just my bag. It's nothing, because I know her. Who currently are you fucking with? Who currently? Man.

I think the UK is shitting on everybody. London, London artists are shitting on American artists right now. Cleo Soul. There's a lot of reasons for that. Cleo Soul, Sasha Kevil, El Meme. The list goes on and on. They all shitting on us because we we have to, because they really, London and UK, they don't give a fuck about the drummer aspect of this shit.

They only care about the real. They care about the music a little more. They care about the music. To be out here, you gotta have a scandal, some drummer, some shit to match with your music, and it's so hard for artists to break through. But the UK artists can just be cold and just go stupid. And then-

They wake up, get they beans and sausage. They just so cold. Tomatoes, cold tomatoes. They wake up, get they beans and like- And they're students. I've never seen these niggas as students. El Migno's so querious. He knew what to soak, and he's like 21.

I feel like everyone over here tries to fit in too much to like over there I feel like they're just cool like no I like 70s soul and that's what I'm gonna do yeah but I mean it's some dope it's some dope American artists like Leon Leon's fire yeah you like the artist? Hmm? The artist? She hard. She hard. I feel her. Y'all... I feel her.

I will. I'm so open to do that, but it's just so funny. Collaboration right now, I just... It's not your priority. You're trying to get people out. It's not, man. I don't want to ride nobody wave right now. I don't want to ride nobody wave.

I did that. I rode somebody wave nobody wave right now. I don't want nobody wave. I did that. I rolled somebody wave. As a writer. I rolled as a writer and as an artist. I rolled the wave of Puff. Right. A little bit.

You think that? A little bit. He turned me up with the Love Records shit. I don't think you shined on that. I don't think you rolled his wave. Well, what I mean by rolled the wave is like. He still ushered her in though. Yeah, he got the boost. He got the ushered her in though. Yeah, you got the boost you got the boost

I want to stand on my own. She showed I belong here. She ride his wave to me The worst time to do a scandal, ain't it? Man, come on, guys. She's awesome What you want You know what? That's what I miss about her. I wrote that for Mary J. Blige. Let me tell you that. That sounded like it. Yeah. That wasn't supposed to be me on it.

I was so mad that I was like, bro, I don't want to do this. So wait, what happened? She tried it and it wasn't the best. And so he kept me on it. That was a demo. I didn't record that or re-record that or nothing. That is incredible. And I was so mad. I was like, nah, nigga, this ain't even my sound.

Nigga, I'm mad. Like, bro, I sound like, no, I don't want to do this. But I was like, you know, fuck it. Mary smoked her feature on that album, though. She killed it. Yeah, she killed that want to do this. But I was like, you know, fuck it. Mary smoked her feature on that album though. She killed it. Yeah, she killed that. She killed that, but she would've, if she would've just let me vocal produce on that,

she would've killed that, but. Do you get to do that often when you're writing? What? Vocal produce. I do, but for her I wouldn't have charged, but I'd be taxing on that. That's a lot of work. All right, well, all right, there we go.

That's our favorite thing to do up here, is pocket watch. Pocket watch. Pocket watch. Pocket watch. We want a pocket watch for a little bit. Oh, wow. OK, so.

That's crazy. New artist calls, yo, trying to get you to come through, vocally arrange me. Maybe write a joint feature on something. What does it look like? What's that number look like? Well, I'm not, this is my message, this is my announcement.

I'm, I have, I have. They can't even get you. I am not doing that shit. Yeah, they can't even get up here. I've retired from writing songs. Oh wow. For other people? For other people, yeah.

Okay, just for yourself. Yeah, yeah, like I think that I'm blessed. I had the biggest song in the world, right? I'm blessed. Like, I may never get that again. That's like a lightning in the bottle with Old Town Road, what that shit did, right? I did, I worked with Beyonce.

I was blessed to do Sizzle. I've been blessed to do Fergie, Coldplay. I'm good. You was on them. You did Old Town Road. Yeah, she wrote Billy Ray Cyrus. I'm cold on Old Town Road. Man, get, get, get a little nods, X. We gotta talk on board. No road. She wrote Billy Ray Cyrus. I co-wrote on some roads. Man, get a little nods, we gotta talk on board. No, no, he wrote it though. I just co-wrote.

That was his brain. That was his intellectual properties. All I did was just come in and do Billy Ray Cyrus shit. But that's fucking huge. Yeah, I did Billy shit. It was all black folks behind that song. You got a pub deal? Yeah. Big John signed it. I look H on the side of his side. Oh, not me. Not me. I'm out of the game. I'm just trying to pocket watch.

Shout out to Big John, dog. When did you sign your pub deal? Right out the old time. Yeah, what are you talking about? Oh. Cracked him. Got him. Got him.

Got him. I'm blessed. I'm blessed. I'm super blessed. I bought a house in Wheeling Hills. I'm out the way. I'm chilling. I'm blessed. So I don't eat... That's a two-bedroom shit?

Three-bedroom, four-bedroom. They trying to play you. Four-bedroom. Stop playing. I turned one bedroom to a closet. Nigga, four-bedroom, three and a half baths, nigga. Stop playing, yo. It's a constant.

Stop. I ain't doing that. That's empire. Two-bedroom shit. I had to ask. Stop playing, y'all. Don't do that. I had to ask. I playing, y'all. I don't do that. I had to ask. I didn't know.

I'm playing you, y'all. So I get it. I get it. And you up. Yeah. You up. Go. Two bedroom mean you ain't trying to move nothing.

I'm going to tell you though, Jay Brown, Jay Brown, I don't really. It's expensive. Yeah. Oh, god. I don't really like say like, I'm not saying, Rock Nation was trash, right? Rock Nation was trash.

So I'm not saying good things about Rock Nation. But I will say, Jay Brown told me the realest shit. He said, Josie, when you get your money, buy a house. And I thank Jay Brown for telling me that. Because that's one free game. If nobody ever did enough for me, dog, I really thank Jay Brown for telling me, yo, go get a house.

Because I don't know what I woulda did with my money. J. Brown told me way back in 04, yeah, we gonna put your album out. Oh, damn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, keep working hard. I went to see Hov, hey, what's up, man? He said, yo, go talk to J. Brown, say that name. I'm like, all right, man, J. Brown, what's up? Yeah, we got you, just keep working. Oh, man. Crazy, son. Tough times call for tough people. Anyway, shout out to J. Brown. And you tell her, just keep working. Oh man. Crazy. Tough times call for tough people.

Anyway, shout out to J Brown. And you tell her, look. Shout out to J Brown. Lion cloth. You, lion skin. Okay, so we in LA, we bought a crib, we moving around. So yeah, I'm not writing songs no more to it. I don't wanna write songs.

Pop did, we not writing songs for none of you new artists no more. It ain't even new, no, shout out to the new artists. Like, I may do a collaboration with them but like I'm not writing for no artists I don't care how big you are. It's your boozy called them all. I'm not writing. She wrote the most successful song of all time. I'm not writing no fucking song. Only person that can get me out of retirement and this is Jamie Foxx because I want to work on Jamie Foxx's album. That's

just something because he's one of my influencers. That nigga, I don't think y'all understand how cold Jamie Foxx is as an R&B artist. No we do. No we do. No we don't. That nigga, that last album. Don't play with us like that.

His second album, every song, shout out to The Dream for going crazy and starting major, rest in peace. Crazy, stupid. The Dream is another one. Oh yeah, The Dream. Oh yeah, facts. You don't play with them. Yeah, I ain't peace, like crazy, stupid. The dream is another one. Oh yeah, the dream, oh yeah, facts. You don't play with them. Yeah, I ain't writing no more songs, man.

They don't respect writers enough to do all that shit. How so? I agree with you, I'm just curious about your experience. The industries. I thought that's where the bread at. No. It is, but they don't treat it like that. Bro, first and foremost, it's three ways.

The label treats you like shit. They don't want to give you points. They want to get a producer everything like the... I heard that. So, alright, so take my lyrics off and put the goddamn producer shit on the radio. And I heard it take a long time for y'all to get paid, where the producer get paid way sooner. Well, not with me. I got my front end. Oh, pardon me. I was good. Pardon me, Keele. Stop playing with her. She got all that shit together. But it ain't about me. It's about the songwriters, bro.

Got you. Got you. Some songwriters are not getting their front end. Then on top of that, the artist wants you to be a ghostwriter. Then on top of that, the artists are so insecure, they don't even want to thank you. You know how in the credits of the CD they would be like, thank you so and so and so? Yeah, yeah. Back in the day. These niggas won't do want to thank you. Like you know how like in the credits of the CD they would be like thank you so and so and so. Yeah, yeah, back in the day. These niggas won't do that for you now. They won't acknowledge that you.

They won't acknowledge that just a few of them will, but like some of these folks are so like narcissistic that they don't even respect the writer. So it's like, and like the thing is like I'm a service as a writer, I know that I'm a service. I know you're supposed to use me, but like when it's the misuse of it, and I don't feel like you replenishing me,

I'm outta here, dog. The credited thing is enough alone. That shit is your whole calling card. That's more important a lot of times than the bread. That's your resume. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's your resume. That's your Benny card.

Yeah, exactly. That's your Benny card. They wrote such and such and such, but if it's like, I did, but nobody knows that. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, it's wack. So you want a nigga just, so you just gonna just

spoon feed me, you just gonna, nah, like it's so bad for writers. I feel bad for songwriters. That's the best, that's the biggest part of being in the industry. And it's like Spotify's treating them bad. The song is the product. That's kind of tricky spot to be in as an artist though, no?

Like I don't want nobody knowing that I'm not writing my own shit. Even if I'm not writing my own shit. How though? Why though? Michael Jackson had run to me. You're not a rapper. Whitney Houston didn't write nothing. Rap is different.

The skill is in the writing as a rapper, but as a singer the skill is in your vocal ability. Correct. I'm thinking about it. And when I wrote with rappers, I never touched these niggas' verses. When I did Lato, I never touched Lato's verses. Lato writes all her raps. When I did 21 Savage, he wrote all his raps.

It's just a hook. That's OK. But the hook be the song a lot of times on a rap writer, especially the songwriter. The hook can make a hook. Like, it's a hook. Like, that's okay. But the hook be the song a lot of times on a rap record, especially like the songwriter. No, but a lot of times the songwriter producer might send the record and they just fill it in the blanks and no disrespect because they still got to body it, but the song is the song already. I think, I think every, I think even to help rap right now, labels need to give rappers songwriters.

Songwriters, I agree. 100%. Let's go back to give rappers songwriters. I agree, 100%. Let's go back to making shit big and pop. Yeah, yeah. Or just well written. Just as simple as, hey, don't you have to be poppy. It could be some dirty underground shit, whatever, whatever, but making a song still.

100%, bro. Yeah. But like, it's just like, there's just no formation in the intro. All that freestyle shit is cute, but like, It's bad. There's no longevity in that shit. It's bad right now.

It's horrible, but that's because of the songwriter. Facts. Like nobody wants to like actually really nurture relationships with writers. So you just- Why do you think that is? That's interesting. Yeah, I would've thought.

Because it's the money. It's the bottom line. It's money. It's a money play, bro. Like if I'm an artist running around and I need a hit, or I need something that resemble a hit, and I know Jossie and a few others make that shit, that's a, why wouldn't I?

Cause you come from a different time, legend. You a different type of nigga, you come from a different time where y'all niggas had hits, like Pharrell was giving y'all niggas 100% of, Pharrell would do the beat and give y'all a hook. Like, and you gonna do that song. Like, and the song gonna be a hit and give you a melody and give you the idea for the video.

And like, you gonna be like, yeah, that's hard. But like, can't even say no to that. Can't even say nothing. But like, these artists today, bro, is so weird, bro. They like, they get a take, and I love, no disrespect to these artists today, but like, a lot of these artists today, bro, it's so weird, bro. They get attacked, and I love, no disrespect to these artists today, but a lot of these artists today, bro, are sipping on they own Kool-Aid,

and it's like got them a little. Too much dip on their chip. You know what I'm saying? And they kill it, but it's like, can you do it consistently, and are you cool with actually letting your homies flourish? I know niggas got ghost writers, but they don't let them flourish. Let that nigga show, let them say he did this.

Why do you think that is? You think they just want to keep him under them? I have no idea. Because if you get an opportunity to spread your wings, I could fuck around and leave you. I have, maybe that is. I really been, I think I slept on it and tried to come up with an idea,

like an answer for that. Because I really don't know, bro. I don't know, but like. A lot of it's just a devaluation of music really like if there's no value associated with this music no one's gonna spend the time to do it right but it's a bad mentality because if you do it right it will be black and it'll last forever it's only in black music expel I don't know It's only in black music, I promise you. Like pop, pop, pop music, they collaborate. They motherfuckers collaborate. If you look, like when you see a pop artist, they're thanking a lot of people.

Molly Cyrus is thanking, she's thanking my boy, she's thanking her writers. She's bringing them on stage. Bruno Mars, you saw what Bruno Mars did? Brought D-Miles up and James Fonteroy. Like her writers. Yeah, she's bringing them on stage. Yeah Yeah, about D miles up and James Fauntleroy facts like that's like it's a But he's not you get what I'm saying. Like we are the only people people have taught us to like We have to be super nigga. I'm a super nigga. Like I did this by myself. Whoa, like No, like why do they make us like they really it really, they have programmed us to think that we have to collaborate by ourselves.

Thankfully, like I said, UK artists, like certain UK artists, they're collaborating. They want to come and work with other writers and stuff. You know, I just, I'm just over it. So I'm like, damn. That's so interesting. You know what I'm saying? Back in my day, back in my day,

if you weren't treating the PD at the radio station a certain way, if you weren't treating the people in your label that work your records and your video, if you weren't just treating everybody a certain way, it could be over for you. Yeah. Like, you better learn the value of collaboration. So that's interesting to hear today that everybody just

wants to do it themselves, like everything. But not everybody. Technology kind of got them doing a lot of this shit themselves. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Yeah, not all of them, but for the most.

When it's time to scale, or when it's time to get your shit heard for more people that's in your hood or on your block, It's time to bring in the blood. I agree bro. And pay them. That's the other thing. Niggas don't be wanting to pay the lawyer, pay the business accountant, pay your manager, pay your road manager, pay the people that need to get paid. It's sure exciting because good songs last forever. All the other shit you might get a hot TikTok hit or viral hit or a little placement in the commercial or something like that and that's cool.

That's the money right now but the people that have made careers, long careers wrote good songs and took care of people. Can I ask you a question? Ask me anything you want. So around your time, who was the writer that y'all knew that would like, who would y'all go to for songs or hooks? Well you got to remember in my day as a rapper I had to come up with the hook, the verses, there was no, it wasn't writing camps, it wasn't uh, and if you

were a different tier artist then you go to your Pharrell, you going to producers that's giving you a hook. Okay, so it always just started with the producer? Of course. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's always a start with the producer, with the beat. But in terms of going to get joints, that was reserved for a different level artist than I was. Yeah. Like when Neo started having hits floating around with hooks on them, they wasn't coming to Scane.

For me. Scane was my N.R. They wasn't. Yeah, no, they was going to Ho first and Fad, Ja Rule. You remember, I'm in the building with everybody. Ludacris. I'm in the building with the thick of the thick. So yeah, no, if you didn't come up with the everything on your own, then you just ain't got one. You ain't got one.

Because you don't have the budget to go pay the people that. Yeah, that's crazy, yeah, true. Damn, also Nio's, yeah, the Nio's, the Kanye's. It was Nio's, Pharrell, like my era is Fab first album. So a lot of that is Clu and Doro, Timbaland, fucking Pharrell. I was so jealous of Fab, all that shit he had in his album. It was me, on my album it was me and my man from Bayonne that I knew since I was 15.

I ain't having a budget for nothing. And we couldn't go say, hey, I need to re-forecast, which is I need more money. Hell no. That's crazy. Yeah. But look at you now, up. Oh my.

Super up. Super. Super. Hey, I'll tell you. Super. Super. Oh, God, outta here. Niggas escalating still. Oh, my. Super, uh. Super, super. Super, super. Hey, I'll tell you. Super. Super. Oh, come on. Out of here.

You'll follow your dreams. Escalator's still going. Yo, never quit. Look, look, look. Talk to the people, right? This shit here, bro. We said the alternate round's a long one, right? Yeah, this shit here, my guy.

The alternate round is a long one, but you will eventually get to the same. Yo, never quit your dreams, yo. Uh-huh. Damn, bro. You're an idiot, yo. Damn. Hey, let's clap to that. Hold on, bro.

Fuck that. I'm sorry. That's... Hey, bro. That's a sick ass nigga. Like, I just... It's so funny, bro. Like, Jaru's daughter got married and I saw comments like, damn, Jaru look good.

Like, he don't want... Jaru looks great. Like, he don't want up after all that shit going on. Like, he the one. I was on like he doing I was like damn I was like you right like Jarrou's got a good life you saw your daughter grow up There's lifestyle to these niggas don't these these rappers they look like he had a gym six hours a day I'm saying these rappers is hot today Like nobody's really thinking about their lifestyle tomorrow, right? Like I'm blessed to be okay at 45,

but when I was 23, 24, 25, wasn't thinking that about that shit. Ja Rule has had a wife his whole life. That's true. Has been in the house with his kids his whole life, their whole life. Has provided big ass mansion, ran around the world, made all the money, workout every day,

don't do drugs, I don't drink. But that's not what we look at. We don't look at that. Those examples are around. Go to Big Daddy Kane Instagram page. He looks amazing. He does, he does. Dressed to the teeth, looks very healthy.

He keep that botox. If you see him at a show, his breathing is clear. Hey, I be having the doctors come to my house now, birthday, they do a little shit breathe for me Just breathe Okay, you sound good. You're great. Be daddy came breathe like Uninterrupted yeah, we just keep looking at fucking perc heads and fucking The motherfuckers on pink cocaine Talk about oh, he's nice

He's a crackhead He's a sniper. That's a good looking crackhead right there. All right, forget it. I let them take the crackhead. Hey, that's that new crack. Anyway, I'm joking too, shout out there. What else do we need to ask Jocelyn? Tell us about stage plays to get her back. I love you for that.

That's why she Melissa God damn four, bro. Could she be Googling? No. So, hold on a second here. So, here's the system. So, here's the system. So, here's the system. So, here's the system.

So, here's the system. So, here's the system. So, here's the system. So, here's the system. So, here's the system. So, here's the system. So, here's the system. So, here's the system. That's why she Melissa God damn for, bro. Could she be Googling? No, so hold on a second here.

So here's the thing. Listen, I've had my own off-Broadway experience. I just saw Tank on Broadway and he killed it. So I have such an appreciation for artists who step outside the box and do something so different. Like that just, I just had to tip my hat to your creativity. So tell us about that. All right, let me tell you where it came from.

So I'm chilling with my boy Ricardo Scove and Madonna, right, we at dinner at Fashion Week last year. Wait, Madonna, Madonna? The greatest, the great Madonna. I just knew you. You just dropped out of school. She's better than me. She's better than me. I thought it was something else. It's only one Madonna. It's me, Kurt, Kurt, Ray, greatest, the great Madonna. I just knew it. You just dropped that. She's crazy. She's better than me.

I thought it was something else. It's only one Madonna. I didn't know. It's me, Kurt, Kurt Ray Ray, and Prince. What? And Madonna. It just threw Madonna in there, right? Ay, bruh.

So I had the salmon. Kurt Ray Ray and Prince. What? Nah, but bro, so she's an amazing woman, and she just don't sugarcoat nothing. So I'm like, I'm gassing my album up, so she's just looking at me. She like, I've been in this game for 30 years. She was like, 30 decades.

I was like, three decades. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Four decades. Four decades, right? And she was like, I've seen every R&B artist. She's like, what are you going to do different from everybody I've seen? I'm like, the fuck? I'm like, I was mad at this question. She's like, what are you gonna do different from everybody I've seen? I'm like, the fuck?

I'm like, I was mad at this question. I'm like, damn, bro. She is right, like what? Who, Madonna? Yeah. She gotta shut the fuck up sometime. I ain't gonna hold you back. I ain't gonna hold you back.

Nah, nah. Hey Madonna, hey, respectful. Hey, where you doing that to? Hey, nah, but Joke, I needed that. Not in there. There's that other interview running around where she walked up the homeboy like, oh, Montell Jordan.

Oh, I saw that. Like, hey, don't I own you? Like, all right, girl, girl, relax. I saw that. But it is a good question. No, I saw that. You still gotta shut the fuck up, but still. Yeah, no, but for me, that conversation was a wake-up call

because nobody gonna really give it, because nobody really give you the real spill. So the whole time I'm like, damn, what's gonna separate me from a lot of artists? Because at the end of the day, we're a business. We're not just like, that's what's going to separate me, is I'm a business. And I looked at like the Queen Latifas,

I'm like she's a business. So the stage play came about and I was like, I got this album called Soundtracks to get her back. If it's a soundtrack, then I need something, either a movie, and I was like, man. It's a movie. It's supposed to be a soundtrack too. Yeah, but I'm like, yo, Michael Jackson did the best movie

in the world, and then Kanye did Dark Twisted Fantasy. Who the fuck gonna, can't nobody beat them? So I was like, all right, I gotta do a stage play. And I'm from the South, so like, Muddills and all the Tyler Perry stage plays. And I was like, let me do an R&B stage play. So I linked up with this girl, Brionca, who is Lena Wave, shout out to Lena Wave.

Chicago, she does The Shaw, Queen and stuff. Her writer on The Shaw, she wrote the script for me and I gave her the idea. I told her the whole story and it's like my album. It's like losing my girl and getting her back. But it's got like a fucking cliffhanger. And then I posted it. I literally, it was guerrilla marketing.

All I did was post on Instagram and little TikToks, but went out, passed flyers around. That shit sold out in LA at El Porto Theater. And it was the prettiest girls. I didn't give nobody free tickets. Everybody had to buy. I gave 10, the label, like BMG, like Spotify, but like it was women showing up by themselves,

niggas showing up suited up. Like I had niggas that was like, yo I ain't never been to a pay before. I'm like, wow. So stage pay to get up back. First show sold out, so I'm gonna take it on tour. I was about to ask. I'm about to, Chitlin's Circus did boy.

I'm going Tyler Baird. First stop about to ask. I'm about to, Chitlin's circuit boy, I'm goin' to Taliban. First stop Memphis? What shows he do? Oh yeah. First show is Memphis. Well, I pray it's Memphis. Right now we still trying to figure out the, like where we gonna go, but for show New York.

Me and Mel would love to attend. Y'all are there. Me too. What? Me too. What? I would love that, cause the play is fire, bro. I have amazing cast, and I'm singing in it.

It's, and that's complicated. Like actually going from acting to breaking into song. I didn't know how complicated that shit was. So I respect like Broadway to the, that shit ain't easy, bro. Like talking to you got to, nah, that's crazy. No, it's tough. Like them church women. I've seen Carisha and BMF.

Oh. All right. No, for real. What she say? What she say've seen Carisha and BMF. Oh. Alright. No, for real. What she say? What she say? She smoke that shit. Where my...

What she say? What she say? Yes, nigga. No, that's power. Don't do that. Shout out to my dog Carisha. I love you, girl. You trick?

Huh? Do I trick? I don't know what that is. I'm from Memphis. Talk to him. Talk to him. The only reason why I can't do that is, first and foremost, how you get them is how you got to keep them.

So if I start like that, I got to stay like that. I'm scared she going to break me. I can start like that for a few days, but stay like that? Hell no. She going to catch me. So it's like, there's certain things I know that I can do constantly. I can take you out to eat

Buy you cute little gifts like when you're my girl, you know saying but like Shrinking. That's songwriter tricking actually Yeah, that's tricking for songwriters. Let me write a little too. I write a song for her, but they I've done it I write a song for every girl I talk to That's like future with the AP. Yeah No, like every girl in my life got every girl in my life got life got a song because it's like she's making me either better or worse. You gotta write a male song, though. I would love to. Do you have a song for male?

Nah, because Melissa ain't in my life like that. Come on, man. Now, yeah, but she's been passing your life. Why you throw a male out there like that? Do you make chicken? Don't scare her like that. I'm not scared. I didn't mean it.

That one's just serious. Don't scare a male like that, y'all. You make wingettes? Yeah. Relax, you know what? Can you make wingettes? Don't scare her like that. I'm not scared. I don't mean to do that one. Don't scare me like that. You make wingettes? Yeah. Relax. You know what? Can you make wingettes? What's that?

Chicken wings. Flats. Little flaps. You don't need that. Can you make wingettes? Hey, do you trick? Can you make chicken breasts? Well, I got a girl.

I trick on my baby. But did you used to trick like when you were... On your girl? Oh yeah, on my girl I'm going to trick. I was broke before. On my girl I'm gonna trick. I was broke before. On my girl I'm a trick, but like, yeah.

Yeah, I was broke before. Oh yeah, yeah. Is it tricking if it's your girl though? I just trick up my baby. Is it tricking if it's your girl? It's not tricking if it's your girl. No, no, that's the only time it's not tricking. That's just spoiling.

My baby made my life complete. Yeah, now niggas is buying girls crazy shit, bro. I had a, I'm not even gonna tell you, I'm talking too much. I wouldn't trick, but pay a light bill. A rent? What's the rent? Pay a little. What's the rent? Well, depending, if you live in Union City.

If you live in like West New York. You pay a light bill? A little thirteen hundred. Hey Melissa, can I ask you a question? Melissa? Yes. What's the craziest gift that a nigga ever gave you? What's the best gift that a nigga ever gave you? What's the best gift you feel like,

before he even got to the homecoming with you? What was that gift? The homecoming. It was a, it was a, the homecoming. We're not gonna breeze over that. The homecoming, it was crazy.

It would be a combination of thoughtfulness and expense. So what was it? I'm about to tell you. Not what it would be. It was a diamond bracelet that he had custom made to look like a diamond ring. Yeah. And it was beautiful.

That nigga said, I ain't ready to marry yet, but I'm going to give you something. Yes, that was exactly what he said. How much you got when you pawned it? I did not. I still have it. Why you playing? Yo, stop.

I'm not a very sentimental person, but I have... I love that gift, and I still have it. I would never pawn it. Why you don't wear it? Why you be wearing all that saving Mary book? You wear all this shit from the crystal shot. You can ship a crystal. Why you wearing that Pandora shit if you got the real shit? The crystal shop is crazy work.

Because I wear it when on special occasions. We ain't special, nigga. That's why I don't wear it up here. That's why we don't show her. And when you wear it, would you send him a picture and be like, I don't wear it. No, no, no, but he knows that I still have it. It came up in conversation not too long ago.

So you still speak to him. Yes, yes, I'm cool with some of my exes. Me too. Yo, that line, that line that people get off that's not in real life, I'm still cool. All right, all right, I know what that means. I know what that means. I've been outside long enough.

I'm still cool with my exes. What it means, man. What it means. I'm curious. That means you turn with open garage. Help me, help me to understand what it means. You said that's the shit Ishby's saying. Jhazzy said the same thing, so tell me.

I know. Y'all three Jezebels. Yeah. Y'all three fucking whores. And you'll leave the garage open. That's what that means, leave the garage open. What that means is I can still fuck my own work whenever I feel like it.

Nah, I love you, sir. I know. I would never spend a block except on this one girl if I could. Ah, yeah, she heard you. She heard you. She heard you. Bring your beckon back.

Damn fam. Yeah. She was watching right now. What would you say to her? Yo, you gotta keep your G. You put it out there. Nah, army beckon. It's chill, man.

It's chill. I'm a civil. I'm a civil. I'm a civil. I'm scared. You know you gotta keep your G and you put it out there Or or it's or it's stalking More than more than once. Now if I go back... It's a gesture. One time it's a gesture. Now that one time is cute. Second time is... Alright, Josie, you trippin'.

Yeah. Uh... Hey, yo, you... Hey, you said something about this one interview. What'd I say? I love this song. I love this project. I ain't gonna lie. Thank you. My album is incredible though. Oh yo, bring me my phone. I wanna play some new music.

I wanna play some. Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy How many joints on your album? 14. Alright. Okay. You never tried to turn nobody out, did you? I didn't know what's on your list. All of my friends. I'm not scared of this. Because the bi girls or the gay girls with braids get a bad reputation like they'll meet a straight girl and try to turn her out.

Try? I don't be the opposite. And that ain't no reputation. That shit is. But she's not doing that. Okay, so 2025 I vowed that I would never talk to a straight or bisexual girl ever again. She's got gotta be gay. Yeah, she gotta, I have to know that she knows

what she wants and she's- Oh, you lost a bitch to a real nigga. Wow. Let me tell you, man. Hey, hey, hey. We got a- We got a- No, no, let me tell you, let me tell you,

let me keep it real with you. Suck the rot off her feet. Let me, like, first of, like, I'm not that type of person like, oh, I lost her to a nigga, like, that's not even that. It's just that I'm at this point in my life, I really want relationship. I want a companion. I really want somebody for me.

So- Jazi. I'm so serious. Jazi, cut it out. What's up, Rob? We all taking a L, Jazi. She's gonna hear it. She's gonna hear it.

Jazi, we all took an L before, yeah? Oh, no, like, no. You thought that by getting the braids. You wasn't, you're so checking to take an L too, nigga. That's smooth shit. That's smelling like Wall Street don't mean shit. It's smelling like fucking. I took an L, I'm not saying, but I'm saying like,

I'm done with, like, don't play with me. Got it, got it. I'm not experimental. You're not gonna experiment with your sexuality with me. You know what I'm saying? Oh, somebody came over and fucked you that was curious and then boogie'd. Somebody just wanted to taste that snap. It's one of my favorite songs.

Tasting that pop tar. You got the fuck out of me. Turn it up three inches to that twang. Toast the shooter. Nah for real. Hey man. The jazzy was liking the girl and she boogie'd like nah I'm in the men. She ran right back to Rakim

Yo listen, any girl that I go like that That I'm intimate with, I like them I'm not a nigga that just be out here just doing anything So I have to like them, you know She just like Rakim She just, nah I mean She just don't, she doesn't want to fully go there Got you

You know what I'm saying? It's not a person like How old are you? I'm 33 You know what I'm saying? Like it's not like a person but it's still like And I'm at are you? I'm 33. You know what I'm saying? It's not like a person, but it's still like, and I'm at that age where I'm ready to settle down. You get it?

I'm at that age where I don't want to be out here. I hear you. Oh my God, you don't believe me. I believe you. He don't believe me, dog. Just a 30 something year old, they not maybe on your page. Yeah, they are. Okay.

It's just, it's got to be the right person though. And I'm not going to niggas, y'all got me fucked up. That's it. Ugh. Yuck. She said, ew. Ugh. Yuck.

Yuck. I feel bad for y'all straight women. Yeah, I'm so fucked up out here. So when can we expect the music? I got some new music. I want to play something. I want to get to the music. I want to play something. For real? Can I please? Off the record or on the record new music. I wanna play some too. I wanna get to the music.

I wanna play some to him. For real? Can I please? Off the record or on the record? There's a lot of people listening. There we go. There's a lot of people listening. They gonna put it right on LimeWire too.

Word. Maybe I should. No, no, no. I'm gonna play one. I got the old iPhone. You got the old iPhone. Oh shit, okay. Parks, we got?

I'm too bougie for me over here, this goddamn show button. You got 17 cameras. Oh, she got the 9S. All right, let's find some shit for the old iPhone right quick. Hey, get back. All right, we got something, we got heat.

We got some heat? What's up? Keep dropping off new shit, new shit. Take the whole Harlem world on some clue shit. Oh I need this in my phone. Whatever it is on a Friday night Why I had to the strip club to see my favorite bartender? Don't my girl listening I heard you the number one trick. Oh shit.

I'm talking, I'm talking. Drake is my house. I just be chilling. I throw a couple of grand. Oh. Mmm. Oh yeah. Oh this is nice.

Oh. Yep, they got that Mary shit. Brand new music. Oh, that's oh this is nice They're gonna marry shit bring the music bring new music Nah, Puff ain't supposed to be on trial with this. This is fine. The peaches and cream. Yeah. Nude, nude, nude, nude, nude, nude, nude, nude, nude, nude, nude, nude, nude, nude,

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If I was temporary Now I'm feeling like we're married I Don't act like you do the necessary Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, hey, can I tell y'all? No, my favorite verse. 42. Club, bro, club. Are you a Marcus Houston? Oh, clubbing, yes. Nah, I can spot you at the corner of your eye. Said you wanna ride. You looking at Poppy like, oh.

Oh, Poppy. Who the fuck was Poppy? Joke can't, broke can't, broke can't. Joke can't with you and your friend can fuck that. I smoked that. That's another one of my hits that they trying to throw under the rug. Because Kells wrote it. Like, I don't know. Yeah, I spoke that that's another one of my hits They try to throw under the rug because Kells wrote it Like, I'm keeping an eye on it I was when he was Pied Piper too

Oh shit They lucky I ain't doing shows no more I open up They gotta go on tour right now and do Marcus Houston shit I don't know why I'm bad while I don't call me for the Millennium Tour. Anyway. Nah, you should. This another song right here.

Me and Chris Brown. Shout out to my brother, my heart. Oh, my brother, my heart. That means some fires in the talk. I need all this in my phone. I ain't gonna hold you. I'm about to say this is Chris Key. Yeah. It's that Chris Key.

You know what's about to happen. Mm-hmm. It go. Right now I go walkin' home After I lay it down, now I won't stop Quicker, book the youth that I was about Yeah, oh no, no, no, I bet I need you now Right now, you got me needin' it I need you now right now I need you Nah, man, ah send this through through ego nah man Baby you are mine, I love you baby. Yeah, even Superman has a weakness man. Listen to this now, especially the new Superman with that little color boy outfit he got on.

He don't look like the Snyder Superman. Little different. This is my new single though, I'm about to drop a real song. Please play it for us. It's called Doggum. I really feel like this is a hit out of this world. We gonna help it to get there too. Now play this.

I'm proud of this right here. All right, here we go. ["Doggum"] Mmm. Super tough. Yeah. Yup. ["Doggum"]

["Doggum"] We're mailing the video. Huh? God, hey, oh my God. We're now boarding the videoiggas think they girls don't beat me I'm about to move forward I'm about to move forward I'm about to move forward I'm about to move forward I'm about to move forward I'm about to move forward I'm about to move forward

I'm about to move forward I'm about to move forward I'm about to move forward I'm about to move forward I'm about to move forward Damn n***a, she ain't the one to play with your her DM's, they be sidin' like bass hitters You say you want an angel to give her heaven or earth I respect your leadership, I don't care if you I think girls, she better than men A dog gon' be a dog, but a bitch gon' be more clever Ayy, oh, they gon' run with that But a bitch gon' be more clever

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On the farm, yup. Now you got it there. You got it there. I just gotta find her. She asked her, literally. That's what I'm saying, that's too complicated, bro. What do I have to do to gain the relationship equity to have these songs sent to my text and released at Chris Joint? What do I have to do to gain the relationship equity

to have these songs sent to my texts, at least at Chris Joint? I won't play it for nobody, I promise. No, you know what, I'ma- I promise. I won't, I won't. I won't let nobody hear it. I won't let nobody hear it. I won't let nobody hear it.

I promise I won't. I promise I'm not that type of person to be like, you know, oh, nah, I'm sensitive, but like, I'll sing them to you. I get to Chris Joint at nine before I hit the yard. Hey! Hey! I'm going out with him, bro.

I got my friends, my homegirl's trying to go out too, so what we doing? Oh, you more than welcome, please. Yo, Lauren, call him up, Lauren. Please. Look at Lauren, like. I got you, I got 2,500 in the crib to spare. What's up?

Yo. I got 2,500 to throw tonight. I'm. What's up? I got 2500 and throw it out. 2500? 2500 nigga. Now Josie come out, it's five. Josie, I throw five grand and Josie come out. Nah, that would be great. All of those songs sound absolutely fine. I got a question out of all them joints

that I just played y'all, what was the one that really stuck with y'all though? Them. All of them. Yeah, all of them. But that last one, they was all different. That dog one was great. Dog one worked.

I could just see where they're going to go crazy with that. I could see the chicks subbing they niggas with the lyrics. Yeah, my mama. That's going to go. For sure. They all resonate. The first one. I like all of them, but the first one, yeah.

I like the Chris Brown shit too. I need that Chris Brown for when I'm fucking and I grabbed the Apple them, but the first one, yeah. I like the Chris Brown shit too. I need that Chris Brown for when I'm fucking and I grabbed an Apple TV roll, hit that Joseph's playlist, Joseph's Mix, what did it say up there? Say your name with whatever your recent jams be. I need that to come on when I'm in that bag. Are you shittin' me?

I know Mel need that to come on. I love that one. I love that one. But when she in South Jersey, stop playing with Mel. Yeah. Huh? William Ferg. When she take a long drive.

She's in William Ferg. Her and Daisy. Hey. Big man. No, that's a little. Chinatown. All of those. No, all of those.

All the songs. Every single one of them. When can the audience hear some of this music? I'm actually, a verge of marketing, getting ready to dog them in June. You about to go crazy with dog them. Oh, we here. Oh, yeah, June is here.

We here. Yeah. You honestly think that women eat pussy better than men? Of course. You think they cheat better than men? Eat pussy better than men, right? Eat the box. I just think we more attentive to it. They do.

I think y'all dick just be ready to slide in. When I be having my little fun? Y'all be ready to slide in it and not really just go. I walk to the kitchen when they're all like. He like, hell nah, I be hitting that move. I'm a munch. Listen, you a lesbian then, bro. Well, we been saying that to each other.

You a lesbian. He been a lesbian. And that's beautiful. That's a beautiful thing. Lesbian with a beard, too. That's the ass old nigga lesbian. Flavor saver. That boy got the flavor saver.

Save all. He be like, dude. Hey, Big Freeze. Wait, answer each question. You think women cheat better than men? Way better, bro. You want me to tell you why? I know you ain't shit.

Can I get y'all? Nah, I'm so much shit. I hear the songs. Let me tell you, bro. Y'all niggas are hard. Y'all are dumb as shit. Y'all be cheating in the dumbest way. It's really like dogs and cats.

Women really are like cats. You know when like dog shit, like a dog will like smell the tree, pee, and then just shit right there, right? Like, a cat would be like, kitty, like digging, shit. Bury the shit. Bury the shit. The woman way you won't even know she fucking shit.

And then if it's a cat, the only way a woman would want you to know she cheated is if she mad at you or she hates you. And that's what cats do. If you know about cats, if a cat hates you, oh not a hates you, if a cat is mad at you or you, or at their owner, they'll shit in the house. That's how you know your cat is mad at you, is cause she'll shit or like pee in the house. You know what fucked the game up? Women are, women don't play.

When another cat call another cat and want to come to them as a woman. What the fuck are you talking about? That's what fuck the game up. You read my mind. Fuck did you talk about? Women are not a monolith, so there's no way to tell when you're dealing with a woman who will tell your woman. Like if we just had a sign, remember like Justin was in that movie, In Time, where he looked at his watch

and see how much time he had left? If we can look at our watch and see, this bitch will tell our girl. She's a teller, yeah. We won't do it. What you mean, the junk you messing with? you. She's a teller, yeah. We won't do it. What you mean? The junk you messing with? Yes.

The girl will tell. They tell. And they want to check your girlfriend's Instagram stories. Now your girl see her big ass face at the bottom of the screen checking her story. Now she's like, who's this new bitch checking my story? So why do y'all, okay, I'm just curious when y'all cheat, because I've never cheated on my... Well, we don't cheat up here.

This is a podcast full of faithful men. When y'all used to cheat, or when y'all used to cheat, like I'm curious when y'all cheat, cause I've never cheated on my boys. Well we don't cheat up here. This is a podcast full of faithful men. When y'all used to cheat, or when y'all used to cheat, I'm so curious, I be asking my boys, why do y'all cheat in the same vicinity as your girl? This is the Instagram era, you could be cheating with somebody in Swahili and get caught.

Yeah, but it's a little bit harder. Oh, you done did it? Nah, I'm good, nah, nah, nah. I ain't even remotely thinking about it. It's a little harder, I think. Dudes don't tell. Most guys won't tell. They don't want you to leave your man. I want you to keep being the side.

Even if I caught feelings, I'm still not going to snitch and call you a dude and be like, yo big brother, I'm just coming to you as a man. That's my beef with the gay girls. The gay girls- The gay girls is crazy. I love it. These gay girls know how gay girls is crazy, I love it. These gay girls know how these bitches is moving because y'all dealing with them.

Y'all understand what time it is. Y'all understand what time it is. Meaning what? Y'all understand how tricky it can get sometimes. If you're dealing with somebody you like and you develop a good rapport and now they just do something totally out of whack that you couldn't predict.

100%. To let your partner know, It just gets tricky dealing with women. Yeah, no it's very tricky and I've, bro because of that I got myself in some situation that was like a little messy. No. Not you. Really. Not you. Not Josie. Not Big Jos. I hate that y'all think of me so, these folk lores are just wild. This is crazy. Watch I'ma pop out one day with a dress on and be married to a nigga. I'm joking.

Girl, please. Woo, I started sweating when I said that. But I will say, bro, I ain't gonna hold y'all. We just need to just, bro, like that whole Mr. Stil Yo girl, all that shit is dumb, bro. Like, niggas just need to just like... They got you, yo. It's all right. Listen.

Somebody got you. Yo, somebody, somebody. Yo, what's her name? Yo, what's her name? Yo, we're going to try to help you find her. Nah, it was... But I needed all those lessons. I agree.

I agree. Because those lessons like, what if I was to mess with somebody who I didn't have shit to lose and they would have just fucked me up? Or like, you know what I'm saying? I'm glad that it was with somebody that I know what I'm saying? I'm glad that it was somebody that I needed. I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad.

Oh shit, she got hurt by somebody. Yeah, she got hurt. Statue of Liberty. She already had something to lose. She already had something to lose. Yeah, we're going to help you find it. No, no, no, no. I don't want to find it.

Damn, man. You just said you wanted to send us some roses. No, that's my girlfriend. You signed the Candlelit NDA. I'm talking about, you know what I'm saying? Take it. Like, super shit. She signed the NDA. That good NDA. I'm talking about, you know, like taking like, super shit. She signed the NDA.

Nah, man. That good NDA. The super shit, too. Oh, man. Na-na-na-na-na-na. Josie, we- We gonna take this picture and get about it? Yeah.

Listen, we absolutely love you. Oh, I'm grateful. We are all fans of you. You have our support. And if you ever need anything, please, you know, I am a call or text away thank you for coming and make some noise for fucking Joczy man. Thank you so much. Amazing.

And if you do indeed what if y'all want to move around later I was gonna stay in but if y'all do want to move around later I already told them yesterday. Yo now you got an excuse. Nah, boy, I wasn't even. It wasn't even. But Josie hit me and made me go. I ain't even wanted to. Josie is the home girl. You can't really tell your girl you going out

with to show a good time. Damn. She's like me. Like if Ish go home and say, yo, Joe wanna just go out and have some fun. This girl will be like, Yo, what's up with this folklore of me? I'm a good, yo, I'm a peaceful,

I'm gonna make sure you get home on time. My girl loves you. I thank you. My girl loves, she's up with this folklore of me? I'm a good, yo, I'm a peaceful, I'm gonna make sure you get home on time. My girl loves you. I thank you. My girl loves, she's so mad that she not here. But bring out Sars. We got you, we got you, and we got Keisha Cole coming. She was here for fucking the mayor of Newark. She so mad.

She so mad. Hey, watch that nigga. She so mad, she excited. We got the good shit coming. Again, Joczy, we love you, man. Yo, hit Willie for me. Please, please. Look, they don't look like they gonna hit Willie.

No, he really gonna hit, no, for real. They told me you wore Willie. Like, they so- I always wear Willie. And if some of that shit I can't get my proper size and then Birdorf, if he right there in Brooklyn somewhere somebody text this nigga look he ain't texting nobody send me song and please hit Willie for me. Watch. That's all I got. If we do you gotta I'm telling you watch. I'm stepping out. We need a we need a gift. I'm stepping out. We need a thank you card or something. No no for sure you got that from me. Make some noise one last time for Jossie. Fantastic, Josie! Yes sir!

That was great. Absolutely loved Josie. Yeah. So happy that she came by. So fire. I see some talk out there about them wanting us to, that looks like fucking yellow. I see some talk out there about them wanting us to get rid of the sleeper segment.

I don't know. It's been such a staple. No. Because they say that's the only, this person said that that's the only way to truly evolve the show and take it away from anything with old remnants from what used to be one, two, or do some reconstruction to get it back in its proper light of discovery, discovery of music. I don't know, I wanted to ask y'all, I read it,

it made some sense, I wanted to ask y'all, should we take a vote to end the Sleeper segment altogether? I'm not mad at a re-imagination of it. I don't know how that looks, but. What'd you say, Ish? I like playing. I like it too. I like Sean Light, unknown artist.

But there are times where we play like major artists, so. We do, but I think that the appreciation that we get from the new artists that get their shit broken on a platform this big is dope. Payola! Hey, Po, wherever you at, go set up. Oh, got it. Alright, so what we'll do is,

we'll skip Sleepers this episode. You sound like an A&R's now, ish. He's right, I mean, I think it's super dope to shine. I think sometimes it gets weird, we're playing some non-super artists, yeah. If there's a reimagination, fine, but let's play them until we re-imagine it. Okay.

You know. Listen, man, we got a good weekend coming up. We'll be back with Sleepers next week. Shout out to the first and last time listeners. We want to thank Josie for coming by for sure. Yeah. For sure, for sure. Keep us in your prayers Lord knows

we need to be there till the next time we bid you adieu farewell adios to Riva Durci, hasta la vista, au revoir so long goodbye our simple head now will suffice what else should we give it one more try ego ego ego We give it one more try EGLEEEE Oh, it really is It really is Y'all hold it down out there for the weekend

We give it one more try Stay safe, stay dangerous How we live Go Knicks for sure, we gotta win tonight We give it one more try We give it one more try If anybody can do it, we can do it We give it one more try EGLEEEE If anybody can do it, we can do it. Igor!

Anybody doing anything fun this weekend? Roots Picnic. Roots Picnic. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm doing a Mets game tonight. I got some family shit Sunday. Park's been outside.

Yeah, it's a lot going on. Park's been moving around. It's a lot. Probably better rave. Word. Shout out to everybody going to the Roots Picnic. Shout out rave. Word. Shout out to everybody going to the Roots picnic. Shout out to the Roots. Shout out to Black Thought. Shout out to Questlove. Always. The whole Philadelphia city of brotherly love.

Shout out to Tank, all our friends in the show. For sure. Shout out to Teng, all our friends in the show For sure Alright we gone cause Kisha Gold got her heart out NIGGA Wait up, wait up Again shout out to the kids participating in prom All the kids getting out of school All the parents out there

Shout out to the happy couples The miserable ones as well. Ego! Hey! Hey body in the community man, shout out to the Patronis. Everybody checkin' this podcast out, enjoy your weekend. May got outta here like a handsome with a beat We prepping for June, first of the month is tomorrow Ya mean them bills don't stop? Them bills do not stop

And it's so depressing man, let's get to the strings right quick Good part, hopefully y'all enjoyed this part as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you. Good job y'all! Good one! No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no JPP JPP why am I to be without JPP EGGOOOOO BYE