The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 832 | "Soft Guy Era" (feat. Jeremy Hecht)

Episode Date: June 7, 2025

With the release of Lil Wayne’s ‘Tha Carter VI’, the JBP opens its latest episode discussing the 19-track album (32:50) before bringing in cohost of ‘The Bigger Picture’ Jeremy Hecht to di...scuss the back and forth between DDG & Halle Bailey (1:32:10). The internet has reacted to the rumors of streamer Duke Dennis having multiple kids (2:24:00), the room shares what they think their ambition level is (2:30:30) before turning to their highlights and areas to improve on in 2025 (2:46:29). Also, the Indiana Pacers take Game 1 of the NBA Finals (2:59:32), Elon Musk vs. Donald Trump (3:18:48), and much more!   Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: www.patreon.com/joebudden    Sleeper Picks:   Joe | Ty Dolla $ign - “ALL IN”   Ice | Lloyd Banks - “IF I WAKE UP”   Parks | Bruiser Wolf (feat. Fat Ray) - “Fancy”   Ish | Leon Thomas (feat. Big Sean) - “PARTY FAVORS”   Melyssa | KAYTRANADA (feat. Lucky Daye) - “Look Easy”

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The thoughts views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only I Repeat it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing revealing indicting Or telling you anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals. Do not have your best interests at heart. Or our own. Enjoy the show.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Yo, are we recording? Oh yeah. The true test of maturity. No, for real, for adult men is being able to turn down a scam that sounds good in your head. Is that what you're thinking? I believe that that is a large part of maturity, yes, that's exactly I dad went to turn out no skin Down something else you pardon this all the mature
Starting point is 00:00:56 Successful our man black And kind of black dad I think it's turning down. He's a scam whisper People who you I don't know no scam I don't want you go to jail but we got a call of what it is I never see you don't have to call it nothing no just let it go what have I got from niggas offering niggas cars nigga niggas offering niggas niggas wallets, niggas watches. Niggas, yo, hey, I got this AP real. I think it's coming with the pamphlet. Fuck your mind.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Fuck your mind. Fuck your mind. They got outside of some mattresses, some cologne. Fuck you think I got a scam for. That's the other part of maturity. At some point in an adult man's life, you realize that they not coming to get you. Like, you not doing nothing.
Starting point is 00:01:47 You not doing nothing. You not coming, you not on the radar. Your phone is not tapped. You living a good life, yo. There's no need anymore. Your phone ain't tapped, boy. A lot of them niggas thought that when they got them PPP.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Nah, they don't know you. They don't know you. They don't know nigg boy! A lot of them niggas thought that when they got them PPP. Nah, they don't know you. They don't know you. They don't know you. They don't know niggas. And they came and got them niggas, too. Those niggas was doing bullshit. Niggas was getting three PPPs. Yo, and I'm so glad they arrested all them people.
Starting point is 00:02:16 PPP law? You glad? The people that was bugging. Have you been outside lately? The streets have felt different since. Oh, yeah. I'm tired. Man, them niggas had lines everywhere.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Oh no, you couldn't get in nothing. Hell no. Short Hills Mall was on fire. And them niggas, man, they the reason that a lot of rules is changing with how companies are operating. Yeah, not wrong. Based off how people maneuvered back then. You're not wrong.
Starting point is 00:02:39 That's all I'm saying. You can't even still let the self-scanner run. Freedom, no, until it's backwards. You can't. Freedom let the self-scanner. Freedom no till it's backwards. You can't. Freedom until they dumb free. Dumb free. You can't self-check out? You can't still let the self-check out no more. Oh yeah they got the camera there and the weight joint.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Oh my shit. That's the other part of it. My elbow went past it and he was like yo you moved your arm and it tried to scan your arm. I'm like fam I'm just moving the shit past him. No, hold on. We do gotta stop stealing. The self, hold on, you stop, you stop, nigga.
Starting point is 00:03:10 The self checkout movement was lit. Oh no, that you say? The self checkout movement, you can just pack the bags and act like you put something there and move the whole shit. It was a whole method to that until they started catching niggas. Okay, I'm glad you said that.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Free consultation advice for ACME. That old white lady, when I get to the self-checkout, I'm going to pay. But in the event I decide to go about it another way, there's absolutely nothing that she can do about it. Nothing at all. Absolutely. Lady, move.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Rebecca up there, She could barely walk. She could walk slow to you. We could out Rebecca. She got the nerve to be annoyed if you're having a problem with the button. Get your fucking ass over here and fix this machine. We could run right past her. Before I walked in my car, I double parked. I didn't park where I was supposed to park.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Fire lane. Fire lane. Right there. Right there. I can see me. My life beeped. I hit the button. Look, the truck Trump open. Shit, some of these cars is a time, man. My shit a back in the store, nigga. Shit, if we wanna get to stealing again,
Starting point is 00:04:15 you get a highlight. Did you go into jail for stealing some popcorn? It's not, I would be. What, popcorn? Wait, what is, what, wait, what is that? I didn't even know. I didn't even know it's some popcorn. Like, it's just not worth it. Oh, having popcorn in your ass? You think? Wait, what is, what is that? What is that with some popcorn? Like, it's just not worth it.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Oh, having popcorn in your ass? You think that's how I steal? You think that's how I steal? What you into? What you into? Your pockets. Your ass lazy to start waffling. What type of thief you take me for?
Starting point is 00:04:38 So he boofing the popcorn. No. Like a pack. He boofing it and walking out quick, guns. Movie theater butter or no? Oh my God. You're going to glide right in there with the movie theater butter. Yeah, y'all niggas are nasty.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Oh my God. Disgusting. Ew. Better have extra butter. I have baby powder in my shit all the time. It's all right. Man, Lex always leaving some Pringles in the bed. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Oh, he's got to go to bed. Hey, when I sit down in bed, butt ass is when I learn exactly what Lex done put in his bed. Reese's pieces bunched up. Man, shit. Come on, dog. Fries and gold Mickey D's. That was bad. That was bad.
Starting point is 00:05:26 And he got the all white shit. Way underneath, deep too, by your foot, nigga. Scratchy as shit. Doritos, scratchy as shit. Kids, why do people have kids? I've been asking that for years. After 80, they couldn't stop. After 1980, they couldn't chill.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Now when you was more of lit? After 89, 87, they couldn't stop. After 1980, they couldn't chill. Now when you was born, Flip? After 89, 87, they couldn't chill. These kids. Stupid, yo. Anyway. Damn. It's all good. It's all good.
Starting point is 00:05:55 I like being an 80s baby. It's advantages to being an 80s baby. You know what I'm saying? Like what? They had medicine for the withdrawal. Yeah, well, first of all, that's rude. My family wasn't on crack. Also, they gotta go to identity crisis like you, They had they had medicine for the withdrawal That's rude my family wasn't on crack also the guy didn't go to identity crisis like you nigga in the 80s nigga You didn't know if you was white or black. I didn't say all right Then we know that nigga. That was your favorite song nigga black or white nigga Michael Jackson
Starting point is 00:06:19 Nigga watch your fucking mouth when you talk to me my family. They go right you had identity crisis as a kid now Let's stop. No My parents was not on crack-ish. I didn't say that they weren't. I wasn't disrespecting your mom. Yeah, but you just did. I didn't. I said in the 80s.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I said in the 80s, bro. Why do I? The medicine was out for withdrawal in the 80s. What the fuck? I got you. It's cool. Nah, it's just great, man. We just, I don't know, in the 90s, early,
Starting point is 00:06:42 when I was young, I just had a good time. Y'all niggas, y'all dealt with the crack era. I don't think the crack era was too crazy in the early 90s when I was a kid. Y'all dealt with it. Talk to your man. Talk to your man. I didn't see it, I didn't see it.
Starting point is 00:06:57 You saw it, nigga, you was born in it. No, I'm talking about, y'all dealt with the hard shit, like the shit with the broken down builders in the Bronx, the shit in Newark and all that shit. Y'all dealt with that. Nigga, I lived in, I was cool, gang. He was born in what year? 87.
Starting point is 00:07:10 You think I didn't know what you're making? Yes. What the fuck are you talking about? Nah, there was shower... You think you just stuttered naturally? No. Shit. There was...
Starting point is 00:07:22 Like you never sat and just questioned certain shit? No. I come from it too nigga. No, I stutter because I- What's up? I stutter because- I know, I know I got scoliosis. They was bullshitting back in there.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I stutter because I try to talk fast. Okay. One, two- That's true. None of my family, watch y'all fucking mouths. I'ma ditch y'all families. Yo, how mean? I'ma ditch y'all family. Wait, you think, no.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I'ma ditch y'all families. Wait, time out, stop. You think you was born in 1987 and nobody in your family did nothing. Not my mother or father, no, they didn't do anything. I didn't ask you that. It's probably some, I probably asked you that. It's in the jeans. No, it's not in the jeans.
Starting point is 00:08:00 It's in the jeans. Watch your fucking mouth. It's in the gene pool. Watch your fucking mouth. It's in the gene pool. Has anyone in your family ever done hard crack or cocaine? Yeah, but not. Not cocaine. Crack. Crack, yeah, yeah. I think so.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Let's still ask. I think so. Second-hand crack school could be a thing too, yeah. I wasn't around. And Posh, what the fuck, Posh? Watch your fucking mouth. And we triggering people out there right now. Y'all was... Oh, man. y'all should be ashamed of yourselves.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Y'all should be putting that on me. I come from a hardworking family. It ain't just you, I spoke to all my mom and dad, friends from when I was born. They tell me clearly, yo, them two should have never fucked. There are nobody, if you could pick two people from the projects that never should have been together, it was your mom who thought she was cute and your dad who was... yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And I say, that explains it. That makes everything crystal clear. It ain't your fault. I don't know. It was that blackout. That 79 blackout. You know what I mean? When Pop was a gentleman, he held Mama up the stairs. Let me stop. That's hilarious. This guy's nuts. That's how it happened.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Y'all never ask your parents how y'all got here? No. Like the night? No, I didn't. No. I did the math. That was enough for me. It was volunteered to me at Thanksgiving dinner or some shit.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I didn't want to hear that information. You do not want to know that. Are y'all crazy? As an adult now, though. I don't understand. We don't want to know how our parents conceived us. The night that you were conceived. No. Bro, I did the math.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I was birthday sex. That was enough. I don't need to know no more. Oh, you know what? I was Valentine's Day sex. I was Valentine's Day sex. Yes, mom. When's your birthday, Bars?
Starting point is 00:09:43 October 18th. Yeah, yeah. So we're out there. Kind birthday, Bars? October 18th. Yeah, yeah. So we're over there. Kind of, yeah. Yep. You don't know. My mother and father was married. I don't know what the fuck they was doing in they...
Starting point is 00:09:53 Fucking. Yeah, but I ain't going to say, yo, on the night that I was conceived. We don't care about that, y'all. Yeah, like, I had to sign my... Oh, wait, you just tried to stunt on me? I missed it it I'm late I wasn't doing that. With the professional sound. Y'all was one night. Yo, I wasn't doing that.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Mom was together. I wasn't doing that at all. I'm sorry. I wasn't doing that. I'm bad. Y'all crazy, B. That wasn't my thing. Nigga, definitely just stunt it.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I did. I don't even like that stunt. Your mother and father still close. That's the stunt. That is. I wasn't trying to do that, fam. Your mother and father still.. That's the stunt. That is. I wasn't trying to do that, fam. Your mother and father still. It's working, but nah.
Starting point is 00:10:47 It's working. That's believable, but nah. And Mel was Valentine's Day sex. Flip don't know. I don't know. Okay. I think when they got married. The day they got married.
Starting point is 00:11:03 My honeymoon. Yeah, no, the day they got married. Oh, you were a consummation baby. Yeah, yeah. Old school rules too. Yeah. I start thinking about my fuckin', back in the days and shit,
Starting point is 00:11:14 the way I had them in the tailspin, I had to see, well, Pop had moms. He said she was baking cakes. My mom was. Why you tell the story like that? My mom is not a baker. Anyway, she go get me. Yeah. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, she go My mom is not a baker. Anyway, she gonna get me. I'm starting, I'm starting.
Starting point is 00:11:28 She gonna get me, it's over. It's over, it's over, it's over. Alright, feeling good, feeling great. Who's ready to rock? Let's get it. Let's do it. Ready to party. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:39 ["Badass Bitches"] We deserve this combination and inspiration that you put says niggas. I just realized y'all can't fuck with me. You never will, bitch ass nigga. We damn big, but yeah. we serve combination and inspiration I do do not like Duncan's I come every bad bitch with a pussy wanna fuck them But I just bought a space shuttle I'ma put some D's on that bitch It's these old stars, nigga, like fleas on my shit Have you seen her? Who mean her? She's on my hip Yellow, white diamonds colored cheese on them dresses
Starting point is 00:12:36 These niggas ain't ballin' Yeah, Mr. Weezer, baby, nigga They go all the way straight when I hit the When I hit the club, it's getting tight. Mic check, mic check, one, two, one, two. It's giving me hugs. And since it's great, I'm not gonna need you. You know I'm a mother back. I need your help.
Starting point is 00:12:53 You know I'm a mother back. Yeah, please. Yeah. Come on, man. Come on, man. Check me out, look. 26 inches, got me sitting crooked. All the schools shimmy faster than the silver bullet.
Starting point is 00:13:01 All right, let it cook, then. At least talk. Give me some. Seats, vanilla pudding, and a cup of coffee. I'm a mother back. I'm a mother back. I'm a mother back. I'm a mother back. Check me out look 26 inches got me sitting crooked All right, let it cook daily Is it genuine though we genuinely blame it yes You know what time it is right now. We had a whole tour. Let's get the fuck up in here, man. Is it genuine though or we genuinely blame this? Yes. Yeah, we blame it. We love Wayne.
Starting point is 00:13:32 We do. We love Wayne, dawg. That six came up. Okay, let's go! I'm out now! Yes! Ha! Oh! Oh, set me down! Oh I don't wanna do a point but that nigga's got the rap. No, with the music, with the music I mean. With the music I mean. Yes, I mean, Big X, Steve, Freeze, Blam, Pops. No homo.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Joey, Joey, Joey, Joey, get out. Hey, it's your mom. One time for me, one time for the DJ. Yeah. P.B. Kelly, I.B. Louisa. Everybody in the car right now. If you ask me if you're nasty, create a gift. Everybody outside right now.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I'm so diplomatic, democratic. All wait for the ladies, all wait for the ladies. That right, I kiss my daddy. Turn us the fuck off! Okay! Hey, we gon' get your foot swag right ma I'm the best rapper Damn, way to hold me I got a man, got a man with a vibe Boom boy, got a nine, got a cop with me fine But I didn't get to it even if I was blind
Starting point is 00:15:10 Like a scary movie, they screamin' when I rhyme I'm a king, you can ask Steven if I'm lying I'm a prince too demanding like my mom Too old, too cold like Westerlain Me, me, it's all about me If a girl got a voice, did she talk about me? Me, me, she say, she say, I say me We'll be in the M.I.A. Me, say me, we'll be in the M.I.A.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Me with me and T and Big M.I.A. Everybody in Miami right now, whole floor over right now. In the T.A.E. Polly somewhere in the G. In Marlin and Flander with Mr. G. Here we go. This is for all the people that are standing with their PPP load before getting caught. You entered a project with a Bentley But, even though, let's go
Starting point is 00:15:50 I know, I know about me It's that focac money out there Let me hear you Yeah Let me hear you! Now the way, now the way, now the way, now the way First I said to the club, she's not the way I did it, fam I see her boyfriend, he's a regular city cop Now I ain't never been a chicken, but I'm a city cop This Wayne right here, yup This club run right here, being outside for this
Starting point is 00:16:40 I feel sorry for any of y'all that missed this one I'ma say my name in the music style Young money, Lil Wayne, little music drop. I make it snow, I make it flurry. I make it out, back to mama, don't worry. Yeah, young wine on the rules. ATK, Mr. Naked, I'm the man. This is really the money.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Yeah, and you know it. Take it out your pocket and show it. And throw it like this away. That way. This away. I promise y'all we starting soon, I promise. Y'all know what it is, you know what we came to do today. NIGGLE! Mic check.com. All right, that's it man. Mic check 1212.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Only the world wants to know this one. Greatest broadcast. Oh All right, that's it man Mike check one two one two only the world was no this one greatest broadcast in the world So they body on vacation right now. Everybody money right now. Everybody working on a grind Shout to the nine to five is the entrepreneurs out there. Shout to the happy couples and miserable couples to its breakup season stay on your griddle your ass I don't wanna advance, give me back her hands, give me back her touch I don't ask for much, but I fucked up, I know I fucked up I admit I fucked up, but everybody fucked up Now this other nigga looked up, tell him me and my quick don't give a fuck She was some jolly, I was my dog shit, I was a soldier I was a gangsta, she was my shoulder
Starting point is 00:18:22 You were the so to my host All right It's almost sacrilegious to cut this off, but we do have to get to work. Yeah, we got a job to do We do have to get to work unfortunately today. Oh my lord. Oh man, but the second verse is when he got his bag What she what she forgot about way Take away my title, take away my strength You give me back my girl and you give me back my life Give me back my, give me back my, give me back my, give me back my, give me back my, give me back my Good shit y'all That was awesome Thank you guys man
Starting point is 00:19:11 Good shit man Thank you guys, I couldn't have done that without Freeze Flip Mel, Big Ish, Parks, Jeremy Hect in the building We couldn't have done it, that's the total group effort and that's the total group effort. N-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n- possible keep this applause going. All right 832. Welcome to episode 832 of the Joe Budden podcast. I'm your humble gracious grateful really happy to be here host. I was really conflicted about shorts or pants this morning too by the way. It's hot out though, I just don't like how the shorts lay on the couch.
Starting point is 00:20:08 I'm about to give them a bad package. Yeah. Come on. I was gonna say those are your coochie-coated shorts. If the wind blow wrong, this might get a dose. A little bit of dose. You gotta put a blanket on or something.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Word. Wait. Take a pillow or something. Get a math book. What the fuck man. I don't want you. I got a pageant in the back. You want it?
Starting point is 00:20:29 Anyway, no, not yet. I'm all right. Okay. Oh my God. It's crazy. Sorry about that you guys. Anyway, this episode is brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Price Picks. Price Picks gang.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Here. Had the pleasure of running down here yesterday. Really beautiful building, beautiful building. Shout out to the Pryce Pigs homies. And I'm here with your ain't no device. Gang, gang, gang, gang to my right, to my right. Miss half off. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:20:58 You got a dude, girl. Keep trying it, keep trying it, keep trying it. Big Melissa Ford in the building. Hooray hooray. Hooray hooray. Queen's Flip, Flip get the money. I don't understand. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Keep going. Queen's Flip in the building. Yeah. How you feeling, man? I feel good. Good. Good to see you. Good to have you here with us today.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Why you looking at me like that? No reason okay. There's no reason you shot you didn't shout us out in the beginning again. Oh flip and mail mail But I'm home working on y'all drops well at least a males drop. Yeah. Yeah, I am working on males drop I can't wait you feel like it was something last episode that I liked yeah, I like yeah We're working on it. We're working on it. I. I can't wait to get it. I feel like it was something last episode that I liked. Yeah. That I liked. Yeah. We're working on it.
Starting point is 00:21:47 I'll be last, don't worry about it. She's right. Yeah. Famous Amos himself. King Wawa, take a bow. Yeah. Big ish, Mr. 1000 Doors. Make some noise.
Starting point is 00:22:06 You got 1000 doors? More, more than that now. Woo. More than that now. Loop. Had Raz come up here. I saw that. Yeah, I mean.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Had his mans come up here real quick. Blessed us. And he's a landlord that go to all the properties. He double check, hey, y'all okay? How you doing? I got some cookies for y'all, yeah? That's what I'm saying. Make sure you feel good.
Starting point is 00:22:26 That nigga turned into Torrey when Raz was up here, boy. You showing out a little bit. He turned into... That was your man. I didn't even know you had them type of interviewing skills in you. At all, nigga. Nah, you cook.
Starting point is 00:22:38 He back. I don't know what you talking about, fam. But it's about your cook. I can answer it. We talking about your interviewing style when he was up here. That's the type of interview we talking about. Yeah, we talking about your interviewing style. when he was up here. That's exactly what we're talking about. Yeah, we talk about your interview and style. Very good, when you were interviewing the mayor
Starting point is 00:22:49 of the city where you buy all the houses at, you know what I'm saying? He did well. Yeah, you bodied that. You did kill that. You could tell he trying to get something popping. Come on now. You could tell he trying to.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Grease the wheel. Yeah. Grease the wheel. I tried to put my man on. You did. You did. Without putting yourself on. I try to put my man on. You did. You did. Without putting yourself on. I didn't mention myself.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Well, the topic was yourself. But he's on first already. He's already on. He's already on. He's already on. To put your man on, you gotta do your own. Yeah, if you say so. Cool, you got it.
Starting point is 00:23:19 And what interests were you to? Big eyes. Oh. That's the point. And it's that back in Bank of America. Oh yeah boy. Turn Bank of America off. The new interest rate. Nah lower this. Yeah that's right. All right next to Ish the freesiest of them all. Yo. Audience, I don't care if y'all think my intro's is long either. I don't care. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Fuck niggas. Anyway, the freeziest of them. They can fast forward, right? They have the option. We don't want to encourage them, but they can. We don't want to remind them. I know the part that they pass forward to.
Starting point is 00:24:06 I don't ever say it. Anyway. Anyways, Freeze. Freeze is here. Freeze is here, man. Come on. Mr. Take it Further is here. New Apple Watch band every week.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Every time? New Apple Watch band every week. I thought that was a Kabbalah bracelet. A new bezel. No new bezel. Wait, what you thought it was? You thought it was a Kabbalah bracelet? I thought it was a cabala bracelet. A nuke bezel. No nuke bezel. Wait, what you thought it was? You thought it was a cabal? I thought it was a cabala bracelet. Is that what it was called?
Starting point is 00:24:28 Yeah. Yeah? Okay, thank you. I don't know what that is. Me either. You know, the religion where you wear the red band on your... Anyways, Parks is in the building. Hey, there we go.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Hey, keep going. We're finishing now, go ahead. Madonna used to wear it, that's all I know. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, And his lovely lady make some noise for her Make some noise show make some noise for fucking it up If anybody else is listening and thought they had they are on Jeremy to make some noise for blowing that one Erickson. Erickson. Erickson. Right on your face. Yo, he catch your man, son.
Starting point is 00:25:25 What? Oh, man. Yo, what? Bitches like pods. Pardon me. You're a black bog, Arif. They listen to them shit. But we know.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I bet you do know. How do you know? Erickson is here. And last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. How's everybody doing? Feeling spiritually, emotionally, physically, mentally? Talk to me, talk to me.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Feeling great. Feeling good. Likewise. Feeling good, man. Very good, just last week in school out the way for these damn kids. It's getting nice outside, so we about to show some ass. Finally, finally feeling like spring.
Starting point is 00:25:56 You about to see. You gonna show some ass. All summer, a little bit, yeah. No, what I mean show ass, I mean, you know, just, maybe, you know, every time it gets hot while we up here, you know, two people take off, three people take off, you know what I'm saying? But we here to bring the best of us to you guys,
Starting point is 00:26:10 you know what I mean? But we about to show ass. It's hot outside, it looks good, Joe. I feel like, okay. Yeah, you feel like what? Show our ass. I think that's the phrase. I'm for self.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Okay. I'm for that. I don't need to go out, I'm very selfish up here. I want to be myself, but yeah, y'all too, y'all too. You phrase. I'm for self. Okay. I'm for delf. I don't need to go out and stuff. I'm very selfish up here. I want to be myself. But yeah, y'all too. Y'all too. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, good.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Good week. It was a good week. How's everybody's week been? It was great. I was in the studio all week. Nothing too exciting. I'm just be blurred and it just go. You not a drunk.
Starting point is 00:26:42 It was May, now it's June. I don't even really be paying attention. See, now we know you want some shit. Look, you got blurred weeks. We know. Lose it on that way that fast. Lose it way fast. Nigga, be blurred.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I was in May, now I'm in June. Nigga, are you here? Old man? What is wrong with you, man? Check on them, yo. They sharing the pack. For the record, Mel got the abs. Yeah, she came out. Big Mel. record, Mel got the abs, yeah!
Starting point is 00:27:05 She came in with the abs. Big Mel. Yeah, she got the sculpting. I work out, that's where I get- You can't get abs like that in just the fort. What? Yeah. I have always, always had them, okay?
Starting point is 00:27:15 Mel, no way. Check yourself, anyways, yeah. You got abs? How do y'all know she got abs? Exactly, that was what I was asking. I was like, literally my stomach is covered. Well, let me be careful because we did watch the HR video. So I'm not able to allow.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Slowly walking the dog to HR too. What do you mean by, what do you mean? Queen's Flip, AKA Trevor. With tattoos located on. You gotta be careful. All right, good, good. So nobody did shit all on. Like, you gotta be careful. All right, good, good. So nobody did shit over here. No, I was outside this week.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Hey. Oh, okay. I went to town for one of my girlfriend's birthdays and then last night I had dinner at Per Se. That was fun. For Delph? What, by myself? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:01 No. And what was fun about it? Like, do we get more of a deep dive than the name of a restaurant? So Per Se is a Michelin rated restaurant here in New York City. We didn't ask about the restaurant. We didn't ask about the restaurant.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Stop giving niggas shout outs. We didn't ask about the restaurant. They don't trust me. Trust me, trust me. They do not need our shout outs. All right, so we're gonna go, man, Per Se. You said that about BMW. You're such about BMW.
Starting point is 00:28:25 You're doing it as well. So one of the most interesting parts about this restaurant is that you can't open the door to get in. Oh, okay, man. They have to open the door for you, and it's a sliding glass door, exactly. So unless you have a reservation, you cannot walk in. Gotcha. So they lock you inside, fire hazard.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Okay, got you. I'm inside fire hazard. Okay got you It was okay, so then it's like I see where this is a thing y'all laughing at about understand this your man Cory had a girlfriend Cory Shit that happened when he was engaged y'all know why Cory is like this he got engaged it went a foul and now This is what we get. So go ahead, Mel, I'm on the edge of my seat. Okay, all right, so anyways, it's a time Warner building. It has a nice-
Starting point is 00:29:13 How'd you get an invite? Huh? How did you get an invite, Mel? How'd you get an invite? I had reservations. So anybody can make a reservation? Yeah. Okay, got it, got it, got it.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Yeah, exactly. So yeah, so you walk inside and it's got a view of Central Park and it's really, really beautiful. It's upstairs? It's up on the fourth floor in the Time Warner Center. Okay. Yeah, in Columbus Circle. How was the food? So it was 14 courses and... Little courses? Yes. Okay. With a flight of wine and I... It was... Was was like artsy food extraordinarily and very decadent and a lot, but did it taste good? Yes That was from earlier that's not for now
Starting point is 00:29:58 And then that's it So you enjoyed yourself ma'am. Yes a good time? Yes. Did anybody notice you while you were in there? Uh, in what way? No, like... You know, you're very clever. And a fucking asshole. I'm just listening. That's okay. I'm done!
Starting point is 00:30:19 This is my little recap of what I did during the week. Nobody else is happy. You did more than us. They don't do shit. You did way more than us. I'm fucking with you, but yeah. I'm not mad at per se. Yeah, it was fun. It was definitely fun.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I have a group of friends and we're just trying to try all the Michelin restaurants around the country. That's dope. That's fire. I'm trying to think of something cool like that for a group of guy friends to do. Watch the game. No, try all the strip clubs.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Try all the strip clubs for sure. Yeah, I mean you guys should think about like some out the box activities for y'all. Somebody left a comment the other day and was like under pod wives and they said, yo, next season, every episode of pod wives should just be shot in a different location like Jamaica. I was like, you know what, as, as crazy as that may sound, so the pod wives should just be shot in a different location like Jamaica and Aruba. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:31:06 That's fine. I was like, you know what, as crazy as that may sound, I don't think that's a bad idea. Is one a month? Yeah. But I mean, even if you did it every other month on the fly around tip. You do it that way.
Starting point is 00:31:17 That's kind of fly. That's kind of fly. Super dope. So I'm not all the way opposed to that. But my brain is working. I'm glad that your crew found something that's fly to do Like yes. Yes. No, that's fine. So how do you try all the? Michelin star restaurants and remain so
Starting point is 00:31:38 Work out right away She works out. And they go do late night dinners. It's small portions. Duh. Fourteen courses, you know they gotta be small. She ain't seen Wade Bryant in about nine months. Anyway. This is not the Melissa Ford show.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Houghton Bargain coming in and stationed near you. Gotcha. Wayne. Wayne. Little Wayne. Wayne. Little Wayne's album. Let's start, let's get right to it. Yeah. No need to bull, no need to hook pussy foot around.
Starting point is 00:32:10 It was late, it was late on the DSP, so this is a common thread, I feel like. We've had the conversation multiple times. I stayed up till like 12.30 waiting for it and it didn't show, so I was like, fuck it, I'm going to bed. It was a weird, it was a weird, even prior to the drop. Like, no single, no track list until 11,
Starting point is 00:32:29 I think, well, it went out like 11.30, something like that, the actual track list. There was a fake one floating around, but we heard nothing from what this album would sound like, direction, just nothing. Oh, damn near like a surprise drop. I thought it wasn't gonna come out. I was gonna say, yeah, did you guys know about the-
Starting point is 00:32:47 There was a reason for that. They had a release date? Yeah. Okay. He dropped the release date back- A couple months ago, yeah. During the Super Bowl. Yeah. Like right before the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:32:56 He had an announcement to make and it was that the album was coming. We were like damn, now even, we came here to talk about it. I said damn, that's kind of weird for you to just pop up with this announcement for your album. I will, damn, that's kind of weird for you to just pop up with this announcement for your album. I don't know what. I will say that it's pretty fitting
Starting point is 00:33:08 that there was no direction being presented in the public because there was absolutely no direction on this album whatsoever. At all. Once or, so I woke up and hit the social media streets and it was just shitting all over Wayne's album. So I was scared to hit play.. So I was scared to hit play. I was scared to hit play, but I did, naturally.
Starting point is 00:33:29 And the first couple songs, I'm like, I think people are being a little hard on this. This ain't so bad. And then it made a turn. And then a very hard left came. Right until Brick Wall. Maybe worse than a, I don't know what the Brick. How many songs?
Starting point is 00:33:42 I don't know, 20 something maybe. 19 songs So I'm gonna tell you I had one of the producers sent me five records early yesterday like 3 o'clock Okay, it happened to be like the best five records on the album So I'm like, alright, I ain't really if this is where you going Okay, this could work right? literally, if this is where you're going, okay, this could work. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I did see that track list that was floating around was false, I'm like, okay, that was good, because when I saw those list of features, I was like, I don't know if this is gonna fit the Carter series. Yeah. Like, just reading the names, I don't know. But, then you get to listen to the album,
Starting point is 00:34:24 intro was hard. Like you said the first couple songs and then it just it sounds like there was no, it sounds like he went through a hard drive of records and just randomly picked. Or whoever did it. I don't know if it was him if he had some you know I've heard rumors that somebody else was working with organizing the album, but whoever it was, it just sounds like these are just random records. All right, yo, give me that one, give me that one,
Starting point is 00:34:49 give me this one, give me this one. Yeah, it covered different genres. There's rock records on here. There's, yeah, I don't know. Once I hit the Bono record, I was like, okay, we've gone too far. And then when I heard the Elephant, that's when I said, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:02 That was. Okay, okay. This is not for me anymore. Yeah. When you say it made like a hard left, what does that mean? A hard left, um, because when the first couple of records are okay, or even good. You kind of stopped your review after the intro was hard
Starting point is 00:35:18 and began to talk about something else. Yeah, you did. Oh, I'm sorry. I was waiting on your review for you. Oh, you want like track by track? No, he said the first couple was cool. First couple? Play one of the records that you think is a high.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Okay. I guess that's what I'm saying. Like, y'all are doing a great job at whatever Gregory Hines shit is going on right now. Of course, I mean he's about to go to a show, nigga. I hope he don't perform none of these records at the show that I'm going to I don't worry I'm gonna take it a step further in a second. Sure. I like the intro. So this is welcome to the Carter When you say intro you mean track tracks or track one track one is just yes In the hustle of the streets, we make our claim Welcome to the car, welcome to the car
Starting point is 00:36:08 Where the night is alive, welcome to the car Welcome to the car, welcome to the car Welcome to the car, welcome to the car How you know my name is on the line Man of my word, I stand on my word Y'all get on my nerves, I get high and land like a bird Respect, I don't demand, I deserve, my stand is superb high and land like a bird respect I don't demand I deserve my standard superb Family first family second family third
Starting point is 00:36:41 Like I like that I like that. Nah, he was wrong. I like that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You don't need to look at me and say. No, I'm just saying, we're having a conversation. Yeah, I like that. We're just talking. All right. The next record was Rock Da Bell's Flip that I don't like the beat, but he's rapping.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Like actually, let me reply to Flip because because he says we're doing this. I challenge you to listen to the whole thing and see how you feel at the end. The whole, that whole record? Yeah. Okay. It did sound cool. By the end of it, I was sick of what the producer was doing. Yeah. With the beat.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Yeah. Got it. And the hook. It felt like an AI sample thing. I don't know what that was. It's a far cry from, Hey Mr. Karrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Yeah, how you took this and made it into saying what you wanted it to say Whereas if you I don't know if it's AI or if they had someone just like do some sample recreation shit But when it's like two on the nose, it's not dope like we didn't sample the 70s records with the vocal sample Just because of how it sounded it was the creativity of saying oh I could make this sample sound like it's talking about this when they were maybe there's a love song or something
Starting point is 00:38:04 Whereas if you just put some I don't know like I said if it's AI you put it in the generator and make it say what you want to say. It sounds too perfect you mean or? It's not too perfect it's just there's no creativity there the creativity is in the flip if there's no flip it's. So for example like style speak I get high. Exactly. Got it. Yeah great example. Got you. Great example. Okay. But continue. Come on, please. I like the, I think the Big X plug record came up soon after I liked that record. The Bells record was next. Okay. Let's go. Oh, we can. Yes. I don't mind. Oh, hell no. Now for 19 songs. No. Well, it's not playing with Lil Wayne today. Once we get to track six, we can start to veer off.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Disperse. Yeah. Oh, OK. All right, so where do you want to go? Go ahead, give me 20 seconds of all these shit. Run through it. Fuck it. Let's go. Let's go, Joe. Let's get this whole hard band.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Because you're about to take it further. I see in your eyes. ["Hard Band"] This is another one that I thought was hard for the first 20 seconds. Yeah. L-I-L Wayne is sharp as nails. Hammer anybody that talk that ill. I thought was hard for the first 20 seconds
Starting point is 00:39:21 That was a hard intro, then the beat is like... The beat didn't live up to the intro. Yeah. Parks, is it that you find the beat too elementary? I guess. I guess that's a way to put it. Here we go. Pause. You can pause. Okay. Yeah, I guess. It don't got enough play in it. It's not... It's simple. It's not what Bangladesh would it be the
Starting point is 00:39:50 swag is missing from it like it sounds like a novice producer and that's without me checking the credits yeah no there's no big name producers of note that I've said Manny Fresh did one way late in the album. That's the only big name I remember. The Clef record. And let me just say, what track are we on right now? This is two. This is three. This is three technically.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. I like the Big X the Plug record. The Big X the Plug record to me sounds like a Big X the Plug record. For sure. It does. So I'm not so mad at that. I like that record.
Starting point is 00:40:27 I love that record. The 2 Chainz record I wasn't so mad at either. I wasn't even mad at that. We'll get into the terrible genre mashups later. I wasn't terribly mad at the Jelly Roll and Big Shawl record. I didn't hate that record. I liked that one too. Oh, I was mad.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I didn't mind that record. I'm not mad at that. Play a little bit of it. That shit was cool. Play a little bit of it. That's the one one with jelly rolls on the hook, right? Yeah, I didn't I didn't hate that and Sean Ripp here I got you You got it, okay, yeah free you can tell he ain't never had the awks. Yeah, man You could tell the party nigga never said
Starting point is 00:40:59 The exact opposite No, I know I you're talking about, man. I'm not mad at this. I don't know if I would have started with the hook. I don't know if I would have started with the hook out there, yo. I don't know if I would have started with the hook. Definitely should have started with the hook. Turn this off. Sound like he made this in the same session as, this sound like the song he made before
Starting point is 00:41:53 he made How to Love. This sound like something that should have been, this sound like something that he should have sent, that he maybe sent to Em on the Recovery album. But a bad version of it. And he put out an album that I thought had Recovery vibes. I don't remember the name of it. Rebirth. This sound like something that was left
Starting point is 00:42:12 on the cutting room floor of that project, but I'm gonna rely on the Jelly Roll, the Jelly Roll feature here. That's literally what, a lot of these records, I'm listening to them and I'm like, okay, this sound like it was left over from here. Sounds like it was left over from there. And what track are we on?
Starting point is 00:42:29 That was five, maybe it was six. We skipped four. We skipped, that was the Big X record. See, to me, listening to it this morning, and again, this is off a couple of listens, because I did let it play, just to make sure. It was slowly becoming painfully obvious that this was not the same Wayne. See that I disagree with that. I have a different stance this is not the same Wayne team
Starting point is 00:42:58 yes is what I got from it. Well he's rapping it's still the same Wayne. It's not the same Wayne. If you don't have the team you're not the same for 100% your team is you the team was myself I was getting to that but this is not the same way that makes you question why is it not the same way this sounds like who the fuck is around him yeah yeah but I came on here made that point before you did this sounds like who is this nigga is the engineer niggas still managing him? He may be. I don't, I don't think I'm not sure. I'm assuming so. Cause that was only a couple of months ago. That's disappointing. Right. Even with the Kendrick and TD split boy,
Starting point is 00:43:38 did they lay a foundation for how to split looks when it went well. Right. Yeah. Hey, I'm a still be around, I'ma still tweet you shit. I'm at the shows. Shit, Top still got me my tickets down there. Like, it's painfully obvious there's no Mac, there's no baby, there's no, I don't care that Manny Fresh is on there at the end for namesake, there's no Manny Fresh.
Starting point is 00:44:00 There's no Drake, there's no Nicky, nobody's walking through that door. It is just a God level rapping Wayne unfortunately rap is 2% of Racks, that's that's nice. Okay, see cuz that's what scared me too at this point album Well as it continues, I didn't hear like a proper song at all.
Starting point is 00:44:25 I didn't hear a proper song. With regards to format. Format, arranging, topic, concept, cohesiveness. I hear amazing verses for the most part. Slapped over shit. It beats. Then we get to this. I think it's.
Starting point is 00:44:46 We get to this, Travis T. Oh, please stop, please stop, please stop, please stop. I have to prepare for this. I was. I get emotional. This is so bad. Was that like that? This is so bad.
Starting point is 00:44:55 This is bad. No, that's what it sounds like. So, really. This is a song called Band From New Orleans. It sounds like they chased that. Mel. Yeah. Band from, it's a play on a song called band from TV That's a hit. How do you a good song? It's a hip-hop classic. You guys are fucking featuring
Starting point is 00:45:11 big pun nature cam An absolute classic I Might have we still don't know what now we have to play a little bit We still don't know who had the best verse from this song. Still, 30 years later. Yes. 25 years.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Whatever. And Lil Wayne is a hip hop guy for real, and a skateboarder. But he respects what Band From TV is. Yes. He did the Band From TV freestyle on the mix tape. And killed it. Why he decided to do Band From N from you know with that horrendous beat flip All my shit is mixed a I know oh shit. Oh, this is a mistake you too. Oh there we go. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm In the palm of my hand blow you away like a spark in a plan I gotta call it like I see it, talking how I be it
Starting point is 00:46:26 Walk in my walk, thug down, all defeated Cause I'm soon to be up, give me room, watch me heat up Niggas tryna stick me like I do Louiema, follow the leader Let's go Niggas, let's go Queens Should I work back and show the repertoire, quit at 60 Or throw an extra ball, just for the non-believers I show why it's so hard, I get pussy with my father's features Puff heavenly, see me at 6'1", way above 70 You said that shit like it was brolic, niggas will knock you out, man
Starting point is 00:46:52 But in the song it don't even matter, see me at 6'1", way above 70 Never be packed in like Green Bay, fall a week to Queens Day I'm performing on the color note No DJ, 98 Live, no replay Make it seem easy So tell a friend and tell a friend Let them again, danger No way, nah Champagne in the...
Starting point is 00:47:14 This might be the best... This might be the best arranged lineup in a posse cut. Yeah, not bad at that. They smoked. Who went first, second, third, fourth, and fifth. They absolutely smoke that anyway back to trash We go back to the back of the club, you know, you can really hear Cocaine lighter the rope chain brighter the choke chain tighter the clothes ring sniper the dope gang lifer I thought gang nicer the propane lighter money all like bite and I walk around like
Starting point is 00:47:53 I'm bleeding off bitch Big pussy Well, okay wait That was fire but not the beat. What, the verse? What he was saying was hot. The verse is a fire. And he did say that.
Starting point is 00:48:11 What he was saying was hot. But that, what that, was that an 808 that came in? What the fuck, who put that in there? This sounds like, so far in the project, this sounds like somebody that went to jail. Came home from doing 30, wrote constantly and came out to place these verses. This is like, this is...
Starting point is 00:48:34 So wait though, if he's doing elite rapping and then just the arrangement of the beat, we can't take anything away from him. Yes we can. Yes you can. Absolutely can. You absolutely can. It all falls. Absolutely can. You absolutely can. It all falls on the rapper.
Starting point is 00:48:47 If your publicist does a bad job, it falls on the rapper. If the A&R does a bad job, if the producer does a bad job, if the marketing team, if the video was wack, if the director sucked, if your team is trash, it all falls on the rapper. That rapping though gave me hope that he. Nobody said, yo, Nas picked bad beats because his A&R just didn't hear that. They said, Nas picked bad beats because his aunt Arjit. They said, Nas picks bad beats.
Starting point is 00:49:07 It always falls on the rapper. Yeah, I thought it wasn't fair either. That form of rapping of how he sounds gives me hope that he can put out great music. It's still potential. It's not, he, I don't feel that it's over. By hearing him rap like that, it's not like, damn, it's over when you hit some other guy.
Starting point is 00:49:24 So he's still giving me hope like, okay, I'm going to go back, I'm going to hear Joe podcast, I'm going to read the comments, and I'm going to show them. That's what that gives me. I take that differently. I'm going to flip.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Well that's why podcasting is great, because we get to hear you guys' review in real time. So cool that you feel like that after Track 8. No, all of the stuff that we played. We're trying to have all the grace for an icon, a legend, and a great. So cool. Can you play the bad shit then, Joe? I know.
Starting point is 00:50:02 It's coming. It just keeps going. Can you play the bad shit, Joe? So you can see. So here but. It just keeps going. Can you play the bad shit, Joe? So you can see. So here's the thing, Cliff. And I'm not trying to convince you that it's bad. No, no, I have value what you say, but I just want to hear like.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Yeah. Well look, you saying the bad shit, right? Like again, he don't, Wayne can rap rap, we know that. There's no question, no debate. But if you're rapping at a high level and the beat is still bad, it makes for a bad song. It makes for a bad listening. And another thing. It a high level and the beat is still bad it makes for a bad song It makes for a bad listen and another thing and even just the beats you could tell he can't make a hook no more
Starting point is 00:50:30 Okay, or he just needed help or or he had a lot of help your team your team that goes back to this Either no, sorry Bono and jelly roll that looks like it's fucking Sorry. I mean, but. It's Bono and Jelly Roll. It's not like it's fucking people that can't make hooks. Go back to his discography. Go back to some of his, where his hooks were either features.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Or samples. Yeah. Yeah. He ain't been hooked, man. Does this sound rushed to you guys? Not like, no. Rushed or like lazy? I don't think it's lazy either.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I don't think it's lazy. I think it's just bad A&R, essentially. I think there's lazy either. I don't think it's lazy. I think it's just bad A and R essentially. I think there's a, because I see your point, there's a huge dip in quality from Go DJ and Miss Officer choruses where you could tell there's help or the sample, or even when the beat just goes,
Starting point is 00:51:19 something you forgot to what, All the sample. A milli even, to what is happening on this project. There's a huge dip in quality. And again, if you skimmed it on the beats and you skimmed it on the producer, then how could you rely on your vocal sample to carry the chorus?
Starting point is 00:51:41 If we have a problem with the beat, how could you rely on no vocals and letting your beat rock and that being your chorus? If the beat is black, it's not going to be a pleasant listen regardless. That's it. And the other thing is these records are too long and I hate that I'm even saying that. The album is too long. But look at the links.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Wait, wait, wait, wait. I thought we wanted long. When they're good. I want it when they're good. I want him to stop. I don good. I want him to stop. I don't. I want him to stop. I see you trying to be respectful.
Starting point is 00:52:09 He is, he's trying. I see it and I'm watching you. I wouldn't be mad at, I wouldn't be mad. I told these two niggas months ago when they told me Wayne was in his prime or whatever variation that they said. I remember we had the conversation. Well whatever variation.
Starting point is 00:52:23 You're right, you're right. They sampled this. When you're on a holiday, you can't find words to say. The things that come to you. What? How did that get allowed? Who allowed this? It sounds like there's nobody checking.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Well, maybe he wants that to end up on the pop charts. Maybe that. You don't. If you didn't have money for beats, It sounds like there's nobody checking. Well maybe he wants that to end up on the pop charts. No. You don't, if you didn't have money for beats, you don't have money for pop charts. Yeah. You think Wayne is relying on legacy at this point? Like my name alone is enough to get it done?
Starting point is 00:52:57 I think that Wayne, much like Em and maybe, I don't know, a bunch of other Martians like this love rap so much. I think that he just loved rap and is gonna rap. I agree with that and I will throw in the caveat I think both those gentlemen and specifically that you're mentioning Em and Wayne don't leave the house. Yeah they just want to rap yo. Like you have to go live like a human being Yeah in order to make something they do beings are gonna play up words and simile that Forged in on Tondra's who cares about the hook really you can't compare them and because at least with him
Starting point is 00:53:37 His last In his last two projects were great. Yes He still makes good, but he'll produce you get I'm saying he has. But he'll produce, you get what I'm saying? He has a team that he gets with. That's what I'm saying, so I don't even compare the two. It sound like Wayne is just rapping whatever you send me. Whatever beat you put on, I got it. I got it.
Starting point is 00:53:55 I can rap. Wayne need to go and just. You think it's a money thing? One or two. I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. I can't do that, I'm not going to do that. I don't.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Freeze, is this self-inflicted, right? Is this a self-inflicted rule, meaning that is he intentionally avoiding going around a team? Didn't Wayne sales post? I'm sorry, Flip, didn't Wayne sell? He sold a... I thought he got bred back from over there.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I think Lil Wayne should have a lot of money. I think that he's got... Especially if he got bred to all the people that was taking some of the money. I think that he's got it. Especially if you got rid of all the people that was taking some of the money. I don't think he's broke. Okay, so, all right. So the reason why he's by himself is because people were robbing him.
Starting point is 00:54:32 I don't know that. I don't know that business. And to be clear, if you got Big X Plug, who's hot right now, you got Jelly Roll, you got Big Sean, you got Bono, you got fucking Clef and the Opera Dude. Like, this wasn't the cheapest of albums I mean, I'm sure it's a lot of this comes on favor and strength as well
Starting point is 00:54:47 So yeah, I'm him but still Bono. I don't know if Bono's just like yeah, I'll give you a joint I disagree Bailers out there. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, bro. It'll skateboard it over to Bono's. Yeah Yeah, maybe you left skip bailers and I think and I think Bono is at a point where I don't gotta do it for no money, I'm doing it cause I fuck with you. Or cause I think I'm a fan of yours. I think that you're taking hip hop ethics and mentality and applying them to generational pop stars
Starting point is 00:55:18 that maybe Bono would feel that way, but I don't know that whoever runs Bono's business feels that way. If y'all wanted Bono and he was charging you more than was in your budget, but you had it personally, would you pay for it personally? If the record was absolutely fire, yeah. In this case, would you have? This record, no. I would not pay a dime for this record. I would say Bono, thank you, but no, thank you. Not for that record. Also, if Bono sent over something that wasn't heat, would you tell Bono that he's your big dog? Fuck yeah. Hey Bonoo, I'ma fly up to you and let's work on this.
Starting point is 00:55:47 It's a good start, it's a good start Bono. I'm not telling Bono that, I'm pussy. Oh nah, it's a good start Bono, I'ma come with you. Help Bono get there. I've been in the studio with them, they did some trash shit and we just nodded our heads, all of me waving at it like, hey, alright thanks yo. Yo, you came through, you laced us.
Starting point is 00:56:05 That's what it sound like when you're in the studio and listening to this. Coming out the bigs. Yo, the bigs, anyway. Parks, can you play a little bit of the Bono one? I don't want to, but I will. Just a second. Look what you want to hear.
Starting point is 00:56:19 I want to hear how bad it is. That Parks really doesn't want to play it. You might actually like it, man. You might cry. I do man. You might cry. I do cry for everything these days. These are the days Oh, Redwater These are the days
Starting point is 00:56:34 I don't hate it so much. I had a through something, Bono. In the time of our lives In the time of our youth We bowed down to beauty and truth We found our fortune I don't even like what they did to Bono's voice on here. He doesn't sound Bono-y at all. They cranked the tune up on Bono. They couldn't afford Bono Engineer.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I'm sure not. No, this is some hip-hop rap nigga touching Bono vocal. I'm surprised. So if Bono heard it, he approved that? Bono's like 60, 70, I would say. Can Bono still hear things? We don't know nothing about. According to this, no.
Starting point is 00:57:17 You might have been like, oh, that sounds like some cool hip hop shit. Yeah, go ahead. You know what I mean? You sound like Wayne said to Bono, yo, do you write like I think me and you could just pin this pin this. It just is no writer. Josie just said the rappers need songwriters right
Starting point is 00:57:34 again and I agree. I feel like they might take Bono's vocal off a fucking him and edge on the guitar and put that shit over a beat. It was like now it works featuring yeah. I don't think Bono was getting busy over this production, but I could be wrong. on the guitar and put that shit over a beat and it was like, nah, it works. Featuring. Yeah. I don't think Bono was getting busy over this production, but I could be wrong. This don't sound like a beat Bono was gonna be in the studio picking.
Starting point is 00:57:53 If I'm Wayne, I'm on the first thing to Canada. Hey. Oh no. Y'all seen me being cute. Yeah. I'm headed right up to Queens. Let's go Lil Mama. It's time again, y'all. I can't be left to my own devices in the studio coming up with this.
Starting point is 00:58:33 I'm starting group chat again. And I hate to tell you. Aubrey Nick. It would benefit every party involved. Yeah. Well that's where podcast. Right now? That's where podcast theories can really get fun.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Niggas would have lit this sum up. I at least would like him to just say, hey Manny, just let's do one together. Yo. I'd rather him go- Yeah, a whole joint. Go get Andre's fucking piano book bag and just walk around, man.
Starting point is 00:59:02 It's over, dawg. It's not, you know- It is over. Enough of this's not you know it's not. It is. Oh enough of this shit hot shit y'all been giving me. What I take for it is a rap dawg. We have to take the L today a little bit. No no no I'm just saying. He forecasted it. Where I'm at with Wayne is after this project is two things and one is one is outside of just Wayne it's a hip-hop thing. But Carter's- Carter V was ass. What the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 00:59:27 Carter IV wasn't the greatest. I'm not doing that. And personally, I like this better than Carter V. But I'm cool with Wayne just giving me features at this point. That part. So you agree with me? Because somebody else is doing, picking the beat.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Yeah, yeah. Give me a feature version. That's what I mean when I say he should sit down for a second I sat down for I'm gonna do that cuz I heard the level of rapping that he rapping that yeah I just think that like y'all saying he need to go get with the team. I Don't see how Drake is not a feature on this project It might be something personal, but I don't see how It might be something personal, but I don't see how Drake or Nicki. They not like us, nigga.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Drake or Nicki is not a feature on this project. They not like us on the stage. He did that shit and acted like he didn't know what it was about. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, that's the thing. You gotta go get Nicki. If I'm Drake and I see the phone, it's Wayne. I ain't gonna lie, bro.
Starting point is 01:00:22 You have to answer the phone? You have to answer the phone? We don't even know. You got to? You have to answer the phone? Yeah, I ain't. You have to answer the phone? We don't even. You got to? You have to answer the phone. Not if you won't stay doing it. I don't give a fuck what happens. You saw that nigga? We had a conversation.
Starting point is 01:00:32 We had a conversation. Look, we have a conversation to have, but you gotta answer the phone. Not really. Ish, what are you talking about? You said you gotta answer the phone. Some of your OGs. I don't know what.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Obligation. What conversation is this? What? You obligated? Like, he owes it to him to answer the phone? Some of your OGs gotta obligations. Some of your OGs. What conversations did I have? You obligated? Like, he owes it to him as a loan? Some of your OGs gotta be sat down, bro. And that's why you got a conversation? Some of your OGs get out of hand.
Starting point is 01:00:52 I'm suing the building that you let jerk you around. I don't have time for the hootenanny. Nah, that's not true. We gotta have a personal relationship. Never that. What if we don't go home? What if we don't go home? I don't agree with that.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Not right now. I'm gonna, nah, more? Hell, I don't agree with that. Not right now. I'm gonna hit me. Nah, I'm just, you changed it. I'm just asking. All right, so hold up, Freeze. Since you're with him, y'all played out for me. Maybe I'm being close-minded.
Starting point is 01:01:13 He answers. Role play. Yeah, please. You can be who you wanna be. It don't matter. All right. It's your idea, so you be Drake. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:22 No, no, you be Wayne. He's Wayne. You be Wayne, since it's your idea, and you be Drake. All right, yeah. I think it's better if it's the other way around, but. All right, so then you be Drake. It don't matter. You be Drake. Okay. No, no, you he's Wayne you be Wayne's it's your idea and you be drink I guess I think it's better for the other way around but alright, so then you be Drake. I don't matter you Yo, listen, man If you get straight to it then it comes over I have two seconds for, hey man. What's up, man? We ain't there. If you get straight to it, then it comes over. I agree, I agree.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Go ahead, I'm chained up. This come off of way too though. Yeah, this is nuts. I know, I know. You get hung up on it. What's up, how you doing? We ain't cool like that. You calling me, yo, what's good, man?
Starting point is 01:01:55 What's up? You're too white, nigga. All right, you know it's time for us to get back in the studio, man. What you doing, man? I need you, man. We gotta get back together like the old days, man. Bedrock.
Starting point is 01:02:06 You fucking know? Bedrock. You fuckin' out. Bedrock, I said bedrock. Let me hear you fuckin' it out. Bitch you love me. Call Future on the phone. I'm on that good course, I need that. Yeah, yeah, I need that. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Come on Drizzy. All right, come on, it's gonna be Wayne, go ahead. Yeah, yeah. You, yo, what's good with you? What you mean? What? You like, long time, how's Lil Man? How's your family?
Starting point is 01:02:31 Hey, boy, what's up, what we doing? You know what's going on? Yo, starting a new project. Think it'll be valuable if both of us could get together in the studio. Again, I holla that Nicky already, I holla that Khaled already. I think we got some magic that we could potentially
Starting point is 01:02:45 get together and make. Okay. You know, Weezy, uh... Let me try this. Let me try this another way for you gentlemen. When is the last time y'all have spoken to an artist? I know you spoke to one recently. And you probably have too.
Starting point is 01:03:01 So, what are y'all doing? I don't have a relationship with an artist like that. Unless they're in the midst of doing something on a project, they're very rushy. But when there's downtime, you call niggas and have conversations. I'm asking about your family first. Yeah, niggas have conversations.
Starting point is 01:03:14 I've been speaking to you in a long time. I'm going to ask a question. He might have to drive straight to Jay Prince's house. He might have to skip a drink. He might have to talk. He got to go a different way. Put that nigga in the studio. Are we sure that there's internal conflict between them two?
Starting point is 01:03:28 No. We don't know anything. Because it's lucrative. When you talk, a lot of shit be hitting the head on the nail. I don't know about you. You be throwing shit out there. And they be coming out to you. If I throw the real shit that I think out there, it wouldn't be a part. It would be total chaos out there.
Starting point is 01:03:44 If I just try to hint around the shit, I'd be done. I can't say what I think out there, it wouldn't be a part, it would be total chaos out there. If I just try to hint around the shit, I'd be back. I can't say what I think. Your hints be hitting on the nose. What I think is, that folk are definitely, y'all crazy. But how you gonna say that when Drake, how you gonna say that?
Starting point is 01:03:58 Listen, when we found out that Drake and Kendrick May had a conversation. Hold on, wait, wait. That he fucked that girl when I was in jail. Listen on, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. That girl when I was in jail. Listen to what I'm saying. How we gonna say that when we found out that Drake and Kendrick may have had a conversation
Starting point is 01:04:11 before all those records came out? So? What I'm saying is that we wouldn't think that after how crazy a guy, I wouldn't think that. Oh, I would. That niggas made a call, I wouldn't think that. Oh, I would. I think that's part of why shit got crazy.
Starting point is 01:04:24 No, because if I make a call to you. If you make a call, then you do the thing that we don't discuss on the phone. Now it's, OK. Now it's up. You want some sucker shit. Yeah, I think that's what happened. You really a sucker nigga, it's up.
Starting point is 01:04:35 OK. And we shouldn't make this about Drake. I'm saying about me. If I were Wayne. I got you. Man, Wiggs. I would go get the whole team. And we still ain't playing all the time
Starting point is 01:04:46 Tiger give me a little dose go find Gunna Gunna I'm Gunna Gunna Tiger is on tour with him he got Tiger opening the tour ok so now who can make a song?
Starting point is 01:05:02 Tiger has to make me a batch Tiger makes songs bro you're going to has to make me a batch of songs. Tyga makes songs, bro. Tyga. You're gonna have to make me a batch of songs. No, I'm going. See, hold on, hold on, hold on. Stop for a second. Whatever you wanna say, I'm going to get the boy.
Starting point is 01:05:13 No, no, no, no, no, let's pause that conversation. Yeah, go, go. That's all you need to really hear. No, like this is the beginning of a song? Yes. What up, dope? All my niggas cut throat. Cut a nigga head off. You looking like you're promo. Yes! I'm a bitch, fuck, bro. Rookie on the back like Michael Jackson. New bubble, you ain't here on the track. And I'ma have to go dumb, bro. They gon' go uh-oh.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Elephant in the room, but I can't even sit out the jungle. Oh, I thought that was somebody screaming. That's an elephant braying. Oh, oh. It says Dunbar. What's his name? Elephant Manuel? That was the elephant, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Lin-Manuel, what's his name? Miranda. Miranda, yeah. He's the elephant in the song? He produced it. He produced it. He produced it. It sounds like it. That sounds like something from fucking Hamilton.
Starting point is 01:06:10 That is the- That's a fucking jumbo. Big face, run those. I didn't even bop to this. Well, this one I knew. This one I said, okay. Oh no, this kingdom car is still going down. Oh no.
Starting point is 01:06:22 He ain't done. No, but this one I knew though. Oh yeah, this ain't it. I would like to see Wayne go out like three stacks. As opposed to this, I'm with you. Playing the flute? I would take a flute Wayne album over this. Or a guitar.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Or a harmonica. A song. A bongo. A kazoo. A fuck. What the nigga said, you go lay over here. Or I would like to see him do it with Jim Jones. Like, step back and just be like the mentor to the youth that's just popping up on a Rob
Starting point is 01:06:54 49 record. May time out, Jim Jones is still dropping records all the time. They're a whole album. They be fire. Yeah. Well, because Jim can pick a beat. Yeah. So it don't even matter what he's really doing on it and he did improve his rapping
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yep, and he's going to heat makers He's going to I feel like the person that brought him in like that's why I said manny fresh like go to That's the problem with this way and should we shouldn't be having a Jim Jones We shouldn't be able to get to Jim Jones and a Wayne talk. Yeah, it's respectfully. Yeah, like he's just bringing himself Never to me because I was there for it like I know what time it is with with this man if he get angry enough and the situation is right, but He could always rap we nobody could not we not even knock it's not about the rapping ability on here No, no, no, it's just really bad production
Starting point is 01:07:45 After that, I don't know how much worse I can get oh it gets worse That was as the worst record or it gets worse Mastermind I'm a sucker for love, but I ain't pacify you but I can't deny you. I'm a man on fire She's a man. He didn't I was just an appetizer, but if she get out of hand, I know I feel all of this shit is from the how to love session So clap them hands, they're a mirror on that Got you drawn in them hearts I wanna love you but there's still some fire on here though yo stop no no no gotta let it play hold on man
Starting point is 01:08:53 oh nah that wildin no alright yo what's Wayne real name? Dwayne Dwayne Carter yo no we knew him as wait up
Starting point is 01:09:04 no don't no No, we knew him as... wait huh? No? No. No. No. He first came on the scene in 1990. What year was that? When the Hot Boys came? 7, 7, somewhere in there? 8? Stop. Stop. No? No. Alright, let me just let the chorus go. Absolutely not. You hear the lighter flick? I don't agree. I don't agree either. Yeah. Cause he's still rapping at a high... ...caliber.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Yo. This ain't... This goes out to my homies This song dedicated to my homies I was there for lollipop man I was there for the mixtape run This shit we gettin' now I wish I could burn this on a disc So I could roll my window down
Starting point is 01:10:13 Friends feel a cool breeze on a summer day We gon' get right back to you man. How you think I'm being too hard on him? Yes. Boys? Yes. It's not a good project, let's be clear, but it ain't like he can't rap no more. That's why I think you're being too hard on him.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Oh, he can still rap. He can still rap. Yo, y'all sound like a broken record with this rap shit. Okay, you can rap. Now what? Go get with the good producers. Go get with the right team. That's it.
Starting point is 01:10:52 If Wayne, if this Wayne rapping this way gets with the right team, he can still make good music. That's why it's not over. This is for my homies. This is for my homies, well well. See you when I get there. This video was crazy. There's a video for that song?
Starting point is 01:11:13 Yes. Yes. Sparks. Classic. The Alipid song? No. No. No.
Starting point is 01:11:20 No. No. No, he better not shoot, no, I don't want no videos. No, that's not true. There's some songs on here. big X plug record. I like the two chains record. I like I like them Can we hear it? Yeah. Yeah, I'll play the change record Yeah Yeah Also sounds a little bit Kali Grogui. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got it. Two chains cleaned them up. Two chains cleaned them up.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Two chains, yeah, two chains. Two chains cleaned them up, though. It did. It did. With the slow, lazy flow. Yeah. Shout out to Wayne, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Like I said. Still legend in my eyes. And he announced the tour. Yeah. He, you know the tour is going on tour. That's what's up. That should be a Tour he should just got big extra. He got Tiger no cap and belly gang Cushington as openers Okay And you're gone right well the show I'm going to is just Wayne.
Starting point is 01:12:45 This is, oh, no openings. No, no openings. It's soon. The show? Yes. Tonight, today. Oh, you're going to get some live elephants. No, no.
Starting point is 01:12:58 No. You're going to get the elephants. No, no elephants, man, no elephants. I hope not. He's definitely going to do some of the songs. Yeah. He has to. And the fuck he ain't. No he not, are you crazy?
Starting point is 01:13:11 What song? The new album just dropped. No it didn't. It didn't drop? No it didn't. It got stuck? He is not gonna acknowledge this. I don't think he's gonna do it.
Starting point is 01:13:20 I don't see that. He might do one or something, but I don't think it's gonna be. I don't think he gonna do the whole album. He does at least three. I'll take that. Oh, okay. So the masses are shitting on him now.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Yes, it's bad. It's bad. The masses are shitting on quite a few people, some of whom I'm friendly with. They shitting on a few people out there. I see somebody else having a rough morning. Oh yeah? We gonna get to it.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Oh, okay. You know. But you know what time it is, right? What time it is. I'm trying to remember what yeah? We gonna get to it. Oh okay. You know what time it is right? What time is it? I'm trying to remember what the fuck I was about to say. What were we just talking about? Wayne tour. I don't remember now. It left me.
Starting point is 01:13:56 All right. You know what time it is. You know what time it is? One tag team back again. Now it's time for our favorite part of the show. Price Picks. Come in. All right, first of all, I want to shout out the entire company.
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Starting point is 01:14:35 I went up there peeking around at the moldings. It's a telltale. The mold is indoors,, so tell you something. I looked at some of their balcony plans out there at Price Bigs. Real good time. They had a watch party for game one. Nice. Got to meet a lot of people at the company.
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Starting point is 01:16:25 we went crazy, but I wasn't ever doing it during a game. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Boy. Anxiety, the rush, all of it. Yeah. The impulse pick. Yeah. The ebbs and flow of the game when it's up.
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Starting point is 01:17:46 Let's go. We got Isaiah Hardenstein for more than 15 points rebounds, Anasys. Okay. And Jalen Williams for more than two three pointers. I might switch Caruso and Jason Williams, maybe give Caruso three pointers and whatever. He might not have that. Oh, got it, got it. You see what I'm saying? You gotta go about what they present.
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Starting point is 01:19:29 I've been home watching Connor McDavid highlights. I don't know who that is. Of the Edmonton Oilers. Oh, OK. Hockey shit. Yeah, apparently he's like the best player in hockey, so they say. I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:19:44 I don't watch hockey, so I don't know. I don't watch hockey. Me either. He looks like Kyrie Irving. What up? What up? What's this? On ice. Really? That's what it looks like. He black? No, his name Carmen.
Starting point is 01:19:56 He's not black. I'm just waiting for a black person to come to hockey. He looks like, you know, I'm talking about one of them. Oh, but he like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A real Kyrie on skates. He looks like, like art on ice. I'm talking about one of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A real Kyrie on skates. He looks like art on ice.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Like you can just watch him and don't matter if he... I don't see how he's doing that shit on them shits. With a stick and a blue ass puck. It'd be four dudes around him. That nigga do some shit. He did some shit. He pipped a puck between his legs, behind his back. Some black shit. That's some black shit. BONG! It's like yo dog, who the fuck is he. That's some black shit. That's some black shit. It's like yo dog, who the fuck is he? That's some black shit.
Starting point is 01:20:27 So I'm rooting for them now. Like a groupie. Edmonton. I'm such a groupie. That's why I don't get mad with bitches as groupies. Me too, bitch. I don't get it. You're stupid.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Anyway, listen, Wayne, stop. That's what I got, please. I say that with all the respect that you could possibly have for Who he is and who he's been and what he's meant for us and the people that he's raised out there the classics He's giving us like Wayne is Wayne. I just hate to see our legends I just say go get with some good producers where stop naming these shits Carter's. That too. That too Yeah, that's that's really because you're pulling from equity of classics and A lot of people do that, you know I think he I think Wayne thinks he could just soar off of his name and
Starting point is 01:21:19 It being a Carter that people just gonna run and accept it But and don't say nothing that rhymes with Kendrick either not if you want to have that phone call don't say nothing that could even be mistaken for that I've seen that little act stream when he was like oh buddy buddy but I think that was off the fake track this buddy you did you did the Buddy, you did the right thing. You did the right thing. That'd have been a shish kebab.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Y'all can get quiet, I don't give a fuck. I was trying to see where you were going with it. I wouldn't have. That would have been an absolute shish kebab. Oh, absolutely. That nigga would have been just collecting young money stones out here. That would have been real bad.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Y'all tried to soup that up before. Y'all fans out of y'all ain't shit. Y'all tried it. Anyway, shout out to Wayne. Shout out to him. If I was Kendrick I done went and had a drink after that album drop. Like I don't even know if Kendrick drank.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Then went to the local pub. I had to give me a little lemon drop. I had to give me a little lemon drop. Three lemon drops. Let's really get loose. Damn. Would you order last? You had a lemon drop before? Who have I had a little?
Starting point is 01:22:38 No, never had a lemon drop before. Why not? You got it. Oh, plenty of men order lemon drops. Do they? Yeah. Yes. As a shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:49 You hear me? What is that, yes? Yes, yes. Raspberry lemon drops. Lemon drops wasn't a thing when I was a drinker. Should I? Lemon drop shots was a thing when I was a drinker. Yeah, yeah, they were a thing.
Starting point is 01:22:58 But now they're just a drink. Now it's a drink. What do lemon drop do to you, freeze? Don't do that. I'm just gonna ask, I'm not trying to be funny. Get some loose. Yeah. Nice and loose. It make you, Freeds? Don't do that. I'm just gonna ask, I'm not trying to be funny. Get some loose. Nice and nice. It make you feel a little loosey.
Starting point is 01:23:08 No, no. Raspberry, raspberry, raspberry. Oh, the raspberry, you get a little raspberry. Tell us what it do to you, Freeds. No, it's just, it's a good drink. Open up your pores, huh? Open up your pores. Nice little martini, man.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Did they not? It's an aphrodisiac. Do you actually get it in the martini glass? Yeah. Pinky up? Yeah. He'd be like, shout-a-clock. Sugar on a rim?
Starting point is 01:23:35 You got a cherry in it? Sugar rim. Such a bitch. The sugar rim is crazy. You keep talking, and it gets worse. It gets worse. Sugar on the rim. You are a sugar rim ass, dude.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Yeah. Sugar rim. And the waiter look at you and ask, too. Sugar? Like sugar or salt? No, there's no salt on the rim. You tell him. It's either.
Starting point is 01:23:55 What you had last night? It's either a naked rim or it's a sugar rim with a lemon drop. What you had last night to drink, Nelly? I had a flight of wine. You were airing me eating away from you. You too. Oh, you just had a bunch of wine? Yes. There was a sommelier there and he paired all of the courses.
Starting point is 01:24:10 A sommalien? A sommelier. Oh, so you were in the... A sommelier. Oh. And he paired all of the courses with wines. What, did you get drunk? A little bit.
Starting point is 01:24:20 Reds or whites? Got it. Mellie's dead date. I just want to ask this. Why you making that up? If Mel got drunk, 14 courses and they paired it. Mel is dead deep. I just want to ask this. Why you making that? If Mel got drunk, 14 courses and a pint of wine, you ask if Mel got drunk. Mel would get drunk off the first one. Mel would get drunk off the first one.
Starting point is 01:24:37 Mel would get drunk off the first one. Mel would be drunk. I'm going to refer to the HR tag. I'm going to refer to HR. Drunk as hell up here, question the culture. Off of this. She goes, hey, you. She wants to talk about that.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Hey, you motherfuckers. You know what I did? Somalia. She's like, all over the world. You know you contribute to how toxic the culture is? Up here? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Pfft. That's why I love though. She don't do a fuck. No, I don't care. You respect that, man. She don't do a fuck. So. What do we got?
Starting point is 01:25:13 I have. I know all of y'all walked away on the break, but we was talking about whether we was tough enough to delve right into the DDG shit. And if we do, then we have to at least present the facts. There were a lot of them is why I'm saying this. It was a lot to keep up with if you weren't keeping up with it. So did you just do an off the break expose?
Starting point is 01:25:31 You don't do that nigga. Yo, we get ready to talk about the DDG and how the situation was going on. That's what that's how we but I learned that from flipping that work. We don't do that. we don't do that no more? We don't do that no more? Too many pocket watches, niggas. We got to stop. Niggas up. Pay the taxes.
Starting point is 01:25:51 Well, I'm good. No, but the year started again. The quarterly. Hey, y'all. Pay your quarterly. The year is June. Pay your fucking quarterly. My shit just got back to looking okay.
Starting point is 01:25:59 How long you been doing this? I've been doing this for a while. I'm not even a fan of this. I'm not even a fan of this. I'm not even a fan of this. I'm not even a fan of this. I'm not even a fan of this. I'm not even a fan of this. I'm not even a fan of this. I your quarterly. 50 years, June. Pay your fucking quarterly. My shit just got back to looking okay. It was out.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Oh, that's a way for me. What's up? I'm a dead ass. He wasn't going shopping or nothing. Nah, yeah, nah. Them niggas came back for, them niggas came back, I'm sorry. Them niggas came back for what niggas owed.
Starting point is 01:26:21 I'm telling you. Nigga, nigga, Ian said, ah. This nigga don't believe nothing I say, but I'm being serious. I'm finished. Them niggas came in for what niggas owed. I'm telling you. Nigga Ian said, ah. This nigga don't believe nothing I say, but I'm being serious. I let him finish. Them niggas came in for what they owed. Ah, did you spend this? Them niggas started taxing niggas and all that with me.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Counting the water bottles and shit. Yeah, you can't even leave, nigga. All that leaving shit. Yeah, leave. They was encouraging me to leave so they could dock. Hey, y'all gonna flip. Don't you got some Flip the network shit to do? Get ahead, boy, and try it yourself.
Starting point is 01:26:48 It's all right. It's all right. You know he ain't gonna say nothing. You know he's stone-faced. Stone-faced? Pretty Ricky's what they call him. Look at this nigga. You know I think you full of shit. I know that. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:27:04 What's in your account right now? What's in my bank account? Yeah, which one? What's in that main? The one that the Chase card is attached to, nigga. Not a lot. You know the one. Nothing crazy.
Starting point is 01:27:14 There's something in there. Nothing crazy. That's not the one. You got the new Yankee colorway Roscoe Muffin team. They about to play the Red Sox today. That's the one. What card is attached to the motherfucking verse? Now you're asking the questions.
Starting point is 01:27:27 How much is in that account? No, for real, that's my only question. Something wrong with you. That's true, but what's in that account? That's my only question. He can't say. Nothing crazy. He can't say.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Take a guess. Well, crazy is relative. Oh, true, true, true. So, it's us talking, my... That definition of crazy? Oh, there's six figures in there. About 40. Enough, you're five dollars away.
Starting point is 01:27:48 You about nine dollars short of six figures in there. You said you was gonna tell me. It's not six. It's healthy. If it was six, I'd tell you it was six. But it's five? It's five. He made his last transfer.
Starting point is 01:28:02 Yeah, he transferred some funds. Moved some around a little bit. He kept fooling me. We know, we know. He moved us over here. When a nigga break his leg or something, all he got time to do is check on his bank accounts. And figure out more ways to make money.
Starting point is 01:28:14 He's just home looking at shit, all worried. Oh, you know what? I killed him in April. Oh, you know what? I can put another colorway out. That's the privilege, I think, is that I can sit at home. I couldn't sit at home.
Starting point is 01:28:24 I had to limp in here with put my boot up. You make this shit sound like Harriet Tubman. Nah, you said nigga could sit at home and chill. I couldn't sit at home, I had to work. We moved to New Jersey so you could be closer to home. Oh, no you did not, nigga. No you did not say, are you fucking crazy? You the gift, you the gift.
Starting point is 01:28:48 Are you fucking nuts? But he's included in we all. Did you guys know that? So what I'm saying is a fact. No it's not a fact. It is a fact. No we moved so you could be close and it just don't happen to work out for everybody. No that's cap.
Starting point is 01:29:04 That part is cap. That is a lot If you could have found some super fly shit, which you could have for the same price Overlooking Long Island City in that beautiful water right there. That was an option for you You didn't move to New Jersey for us. Who you talking to? If you could have moved to Manhattan. I comprehend well. You don't think that me, you and Freeze, because this is from that era, living in Jersey, played any part in us moving to studio in Jersey.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Parks had the luxury of being in his house for 39 years from Parks. Yeah, let's go to Jersey, let that nigga hop in a car and go to Jersey. Then that's when we was thugging it to a story. You niggas wasn't always on time. Yeah, let's move to Jersey. Why wouldn't I do something great out of the kindness of my heart? Y'all try to paint it as a bit.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Nah, cause you tried to lie. That's the kindness of your heart. That's the lie. Cause you tried to look. Look. It's the kindness. Hey, Jeremy, would you tell these niggas, these niggas record in front of a black drape and a brick wall, look. It's the kindness. Hey, Jeremy, what you tell these niggas? These niggas record in front of a black drape
Starting point is 01:30:08 and a brick wall, nigga, hold up. Yo, set the fuck up now, boy. I get mad. These niggas record in front of fucking some hospice looking shit. Look around, nigga. Look. Keep going.
Starting point is 01:30:20 It's convenience. No, no, no. No, he full of shit. You think you took away the black drapes and the, what was the pictures in the back? Only dead men are free. It's some, that shit. Fuck us.
Starting point is 01:30:29 You did that for us. Wait, us includes me. I'm not saying y'all excluding me. All right, yeah, you get it right. That's where you're going wrong. Okay. Oh, y'all, oh, when I say us, y'all think I'm not, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:30:38 No, first you said y'all. You said y'all first. You said y'all first. You said y'all first. You're not a part of y'all. There's no us without y'all. You didn't say us. I didn't have to, it's still true.
Starting point is 01:30:47 If I say to you, we moved to Jersey partly because of you. How is that for us? We don't have to be circling right now. When did you say partly? Never. Arthur, say partly now. This boy is bad. We moved to Jersey because of you.
Starting point is 01:30:58 He's a slippery little sucker. I think it still applies. Yeah, a salamander. Who signed you on? Yo, what'd you call that other day? A salamander. Because he won't fire at you. You already scared him for his career to fire at you. Like Targashian. Yeah, a salamander. Who's side you on? Yo, what you call that other name, man? A salamander. Who's side you on? Because he won't fire at you.
Starting point is 01:31:06 You already scared him for his career to fire at you. I'm not that. So pick a side. I hear him. I hear him. No, I'm talking shit. Come on, we supposed to be a serious. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:16 Are we? I'm in the great mood. I can tell. I'm in the great mood. I can tell when you start bullshit. I hear it. Some nonsense. They say who they're juicy for us.
Starting point is 01:31:24 We have to be, we have to. God, we have to, we have to do the DDG shit. All right. And it is serious on air. It is serious. What's this, mic stop though. So, because I know the largest room I've ever been in is the room for growth, I am going to pass this off to Mark, who's on the phone.
Starting point is 01:31:48 Hey, hey, hey, hey, Mark. The days you call out, boy. Distinguished cast, we should review the facts objectively first and then insert our opinions. That's how this goes, yeah. Okay, on the break, we struggled with the facts. This is such a long timeline. We brought in none other than.
Starting point is 01:32:22 We just don't do facts here. Yeah, that ain't our bad. We're bad at facts. I mean, it's that. I really should make a hire for that, but it's sad that we're not. I deal in feelings. Fuck facts, man.
Starting point is 01:32:36 I want to get to how I feel about things. All right? Anyway, to help us along with facts, none other than Jeremy Hecht is in the building. Let's go. Let's go. My second or third favorite white boy in the content space. Jeremy, how you feeling?
Starting point is 01:32:56 I feel good to be top three, not one, not two. Number three in your white boy list. Here we go. Happy to have you here. And thank you for throwing me into the most complex and difficult topic first to lay things out for you guys. I appreciate that. Well no, that's not you. I let you get a pass on the Wayne topic. You did. You did. And you know my esteemed love for Wayne, so I appreciate that. Exactly. And now here we are. So facts. Yeah, please.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Give us the facts, Jimmy. Okay, so let's lay it out. Pause. October 3rd, 2024, public breakup. They break up via Instagram, but said that they would remain, quote, best friends. Oh, that's always a lie. A statement that didn't age incredibly well. They're going back and forth on social media, but then things heat up, of course, in March of 2025, DDG expresses that he's unable to see his son and that she's keeping halo from him. Then Hallie Bailey granted restraining order.
Starting point is 01:33:55 This is May 13th, 2025. She obtained a temporary restraining order against DDG alleging physical, emotional, and financial abuse, including an incident where she talked about and showed pictures of a chipped tooth and physical harm on her arms. So that was said to be a dispute in the car over, you know, their son was in the car. She showed pictures, she obtained a restraining order.
Starting point is 01:34:20 May, 2025, custody and visitation. Bailey was granted temporary physical and legal custody of Halo. She proposed supervised weekly visits for DDG, I think it was a few hours a week, and requested restrictions on him taking Halo outside of LA County. Now, at the same time, she's going to film a movie in Italy and she basically wants to take Halo four months at a time to Italy. So that's what she's proposing. She's gonna be in sole custody. Then DDG was silent about it. He was on Streamer University with Kai. We're not really sure how he feels. June 4th and 5th, 2025, DDG filed a restraining order against Bailey alleging that she actually posed a psychological risk
Starting point is 01:35:05 to Halo. He basically said she was unstable, she was unable to take care of a child, she talked about, and then he provided text messages where it showcased her threatening her life, threatening suicide, threatening that her son wasn't gonna be around to see things. It was all kind of manic, and in those texts,
Starting point is 01:35:23 she also accused DDG of sleeping with someone in Mexico. With Lala. With Lala, yes, a fellow streamer. Definitely hit Lala. What the fuck's he doing? In Mexico? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Straight off my streamer university hype.
Starting point is 01:35:36 And you've been kind of. And you've been distant. You've been distant. You've been distant at worst. I mean at best. Listen, gotta fuck Lala. Anyway. So Lala actually did, she confirmed in her words
Starting point is 01:35:51 that it didn't happen. It didn't happen. That's what she said. She held it down. She held it down. And that's where we're at right now. That means they're still fucking. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:00 What'd you say to that? Wanna fuck again. Oh, they're gonna fuck again. Allegedly. Allegedly, we can't say that. But yeah, so that's where we're at right now. And he wants to prevent her from traveling out the country with Halo. OK, the nature of the text messages that DDG released
Starting point is 01:36:16 were very disturbing. They were. And there was a lot of talk around the cause of those texts being sent. Was this postpartum or was this a psycho girl? Are there dates on the texts? March of 2024. Okay. Now do we have enough facts to get into our feelings about this? I think that's a pretty good outline, right? Pretty good. That's a pretty good outline.
Starting point is 01:36:48 Thank you, Jeremy. Yeah. Thank you. And feel free to stay for this in case you want to chime in on this tough topic. OK, I'm here. All right. Flip, go to the kitchen on this tough topic.
Starting point is 01:36:59 You know, this topic right here, Flip, go ahead, get out of here, man. Don't worry about this. I know it's flip gonna stay. Oh, man. I have no idea what anybody's take is regarding this, so I'd love to hear it. I know Mel, Mel?
Starting point is 01:37:15 I feel like the only reason why we know any of this is because he is constantly online talking about it and after the breakup being completely disparaging of her making his claims, et cetera, et cetera. Also, when he started talking about the fact that she was preventing him from seeing Halo, he did this on his streaming platform with his millions of viewers,
Starting point is 01:37:43 creating like a hashtag free halo. What does that do? That encourages your audience to go to her and start bullying her without any of the facts other than the ones that you just presented, which are up for fucking debate. Whoever's right, whoever's wrong, it really is, it's gotten so fucking messy,
Starting point is 01:38:06 nobody even knows, but my stance is, he has been, he comes off as being so fucking wildly stressful to deal with after you've just had a baby. I'm just, I'm going to, I'm standing 10 toes down on Halle's side. I don't even have to have all the facts. The fact of the matter is, she had a baby, she has a- That's on brand.
Starting point is 01:38:32 No, but- Shocker. Yeah, plot twist with this. Because that's just how I feel. I'll take you wrong, by the way. Yeah, I just, I think- Well, some of your reasoning, maybe. It all seems like messy shit to me. It is very messy shit, but at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:38:44 you have a young girl who's trying to manage a career, manage a relationship, have a baby, and then there's debates on how long postpartum actually lasts, but it ain't six to fucking eight weeks. It's a really long time for women to start feeling any semblance of fucking normalcy. And she's in the public eye, she has a baby daddy
Starting point is 01:39:02 who's going to the fucking world to get his, to get a sense of validation or to get them to agree with him. Like that is wildly stressful. So maybe she did have a manic episode where she's saying a bunch of fucked up things in text. Why is she being judged on her worst moments when she is in the most vulnerable fucking state?
Starting point is 01:39:21 And that is why I'm going to be on her side. And also he wants to file a restraining order. Childs, she filed one first and was granted. She don't want to be around you. This is, hold on, this is the same motherfucker that went to her house, keeps going to her house unannounced, breaks into her house, takes a picture of her bed to let her know
Starting point is 01:39:41 that he is inside your house and can get in your house whenever you want, and then rips out the camera systems? How fucking safe does this girl feel? This is allegedly. Okay, well. This is allegedly. One thing, his order was, what he filed was so that she can't take the baby to Italy for that time.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Okay, mm-hmm. Like not trying to be around her or keep her away from him. It's just, I don't want you to take my son. That's what he was filing. There's a lot of situations, Mel, when you don't take the text message serious, that something end up happening to the child. We've seen that a lot of times,
Starting point is 01:40:14 whether it's when it comes to domestic issues. And they say, oh, the signs were right there. The signs were right there. So him filing this restraining order, based off of the text message that she's been sending him, is a right move for him to do. I'd like to challenge a few of the things that you said. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:31 Who, Mel? Yeah. In terms of weaponizing a fan base, to bully you? They're both doing that, I feel like. They both are doing that. I don't see how she's done it. Now we let you get a runway to get all of your shit off.
Starting point is 01:40:49 Let's have the conversation without us triggering one another. Because I'm not trying to trigger nobody. And please don't trigger me. And this topic could be triggering. It's very triggering. I've been through every aspect of this. The second that she left him, fanbases were weaponized. Because you had the Disney girl, the Beyonce girl, the clean sister act girl's fanbase saying,
Starting point is 01:41:19 yo dog, you lucked up, she should've never been with you, use a bum, you clout chasing, every chance you get you mention in a baby You mention in her she don't want you that was a thing. That was a real thing. I'm saying this is somebody fan It went on up here We got into an argument about DDG We got into an argument about DDG you took Chloe side, I mean you took Haley side we took DDG side We got into an argument about DDG. You took Chloe's side, I mean you took Hailey's side, we took DDG's side, we got into an argument about DDG. So it's not like he was the person
Starting point is 01:41:48 that was throwing out the bully shit and she was just on the receiving end of that. That's not true. Both of their fan bases were weaponized. She did not weaponize hers. She couldn't, just let me say this one thing, just one thing and then y'all got it. You're gonna hijack the topic.
Starting point is 01:42:03 No, holy shit. You're gonna hijack the topic? How many times have they hijacked dog piled on me? One time. I just wanna say this one thing. Go ahead. She did not weaponize her fan base, and furthermore, everybody's saying that he's a clown,
Starting point is 01:42:18 stay away from him, blah, blah, blah. She didn't listen. She followed her own heart. That was the man she wanted, she chose, she had a baby with him. She did not listen to anybody. So she did not weaponize her fan base. They made their own assumptions.
Starting point is 01:42:34 He went on streaming to me. Now you're off-intentioned. Can you not respond to each point that we're about to make, the same way we did with you? That's all I'm asking. Right. I have more of your points
Starting point is 01:42:43 than I'd like to challenge. And she don't, even with that weaponization point, the artists sometimes don't have to say, skill. Go do it. Yeah. They don't have to do that. If nothing else, we've proven that both of them played part in the weaponization of fan bases. One.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Two. In terms of things being made public and why they are made public They're playing court courthouse games. It's true. Andy. Mm-hmm courthouse games is not only where things become public But it's where both parties go to say the worst of the worst about the other. So unfortunately These stories the break-in stories they're public because they're court filings. Three, she played her hand in some of this being public when she vehemently was against the kid going to Consonant's house.
Starting point is 01:43:36 And put that out. And she put it out. So all I'm saying is, at the start, you have two young people that are engaging in the messiness of a breakup after a baby. That's fair. My thing and I'm not on anybody's side again I think the child is the the real recipient of the negativity but I don't understand to Joe's point, how you could say, yo, I don't want my kid around Kassanate or on a stream or anything of that sort,
Starting point is 01:44:10 but you are electing to take my kid across to a whole different country outside of me. That's totally what you would do. I think that's very, very different. I think that's different personally. A lot of shit goes on on these streams. It be girls, it be a lot of shit going on at on these streams it'd be it'd be girls it'd be it'd be a lot of shit going on on the streams
Starting point is 01:44:28 Me take her taking a kid with with her to work in another just just happens to be in another country You don't know you got a man you got whatever over there with you. I'm not subjecting the kid to anything Necessarily supposedly you don't know That's supposed to suppose it way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way The restraining order says that's not necessarily dependent on what set up the restraining order basically says she has soul She can do that I don't know that to be true. That's incorrect. You are wrong. Does she have so I don't know what they you cannot do Whatever you want just because you have so custody. I've been through it I know that y'all want to fucking is the erasure of father rights around here, but you cannot take this baby
Starting point is 01:45:24 No, you can't And my thing is this and I hate that this point gets overlooked fam You had enough discernment to lay down and have a baby with this man Right We are electing this man to be the father of your child Can I pause you right there for a second and add to what you're saying? Maybe messy, but it is being spoken about. He convinced her to have the baby. She said, I'm having an abortion. No, that's part of,
Starting point is 01:45:56 listen, there's another side to this that paints her as being emotionally manipulative. And I think that is what he filed in his court balance. But but and I'm not even going to continue to speak to that I can speak to how a dad move when he want the kid. Yes That's what I can speak. Is there is there proof of her making that statement? No, it's not proof of some of that. I'm not gonna let neither but we talk about this. Well, I think that Checker, yeah. Well, what I'm saying is this a different check that if there's any proof the written proof that she said she was going to have an abortion and he convinced her to have the baby Because if not, then that is just his word against hers. And that is that's nasty We can't do that though
Starting point is 01:46:39 We can't say it's written proof of this but we don't have written proof of that and the things that we don't have written I'm just talking about text messages since you wanted to put them out. No, but you didn't bring up written proof of. You didn't bring up written proof of. When he broke in the house and yada yada yada yada. We don't have written proof of proof of those things either. He took a picture of her bed.
Starting point is 01:46:54 So, what does that mean? He could've took that picture nine years ago. He let her know that I'm in your house, I could take a picture of your, I'm taking a picture of your bed. You're getting that from a police report, Mel, is what we're saying. But anyway, Jeremy, let us know when you have facts.
Starting point is 01:47:06 It doesn't seem like there's any public record of her saying that. DDG said in an interview, we weren't aiming for a baby. It kind of happened. What are we going to do? He said, she always wanted to be a mom and I always wanted a kid. So from there, we just made a decision to go through it.
Starting point is 01:47:23 I don't know if there's any public record of her saying that. Bro, the point I was making is something different. The point I was making is, yo, the second that we elect to have a child, right, let's just say for all intents and purposes, it was agreed upon mutually. I'm sure it was. You now can't, when we break up, say, yo, that bitch is a bum mom, I ain't never want to have a baby with her, I don't want her to be alone with my kid you elected to have a child with
Starting point is 01:47:47 this woman so that speaks to your judgment and your own discernment that you thought in that moment she would have been a decent mom and vice versa so if you have I can't be wrong though yeah I'm not disagreeing with you but in the moment you can have the confidence that this man is gonna be a good dad so you are thinking that he's gonna have your child's best interest at heart when he has your child and vice versa on the woman Don't think that like that. No, no people don't give it that much thought. That's too Too many thoughts. No, you're like each other. You can both want to have a baby You can decide the one have a baby, but they're not thinking about I think he'll be the best father
Starting point is 01:48:21 I think she'll be the best father, or I think she'll be the best mother. Nobody can't tell people about that. And they don't know what having a baby means. They don't know all the shit that changed. The person that you with right now ain't going to be the same person as that baby. Neither one of you will be like, yo dog, she had my baby over here, I don't want my baby over there, depending on if it's a harmful situation or not. Of course, but yo I don't want my baby around these people. My nigga, that's not your choice to make. And then vice versa on the woman side, yo I, I want my baby around her sister or if they not putting your kid in harm's way my nigga
Starting point is 01:48:48 That's not your choice to make you lay down a hat a baby with this woman And you have to trust that the man and the woman are gonna do appropriate things with your child in mind The only thing I'm familiar with when it comes to consent from both parents is when you trying to take a child to get a passport Out of the country. Yeah, if the man name was on the birth certificate, you cannot go and take the child to get a passport without the man's signature. You can't take the child out the country either. The child has to sign.
Starting point is 01:49:14 I mean, I'm pardon me. The parent has to sign for you to take them out the country. And not to interrupt, but just to clarify, in the court filing that DDG made, it does say, so petition or threaten me by demanding that we reconcile, or she would go through with the abortion.
Starting point is 01:49:29 This was the most troubling of her attempts to coercively control me. So DDG is claiming that she did that. Again, it's a claim. It's a claim. Yeah, it's just a claim. These text messages that he released, the disturbing ones,
Starting point is 01:49:44 if you believe that these attacks are not doctored and really happened in the, they say a lot. I mean, they do tell a story. They do. Y'all want me, should I read them? Sure, you want to read them. The trust, this is a blurry version, I'll try my best to,
Starting point is 01:50:01 the trust issues are becoming overwhelming. Maybe that's for the best. I put in too much time and effort into making you happy to have to deal with the bullshit every day and in your eyes you're never wrong it's frustrating and I'm over it I'm no longer entertaining this argument I need to work on becoming more successful like quote-unquote Jay-Z like you said then maybe you'll take my vision of becoming a big label owner serious instead of shitting on my dreams every second you get. She says, you don't want to be with me, that's okay.
Starting point is 01:50:34 I will never beg anyone. I will be successful. I don't need to be with someone who is going to demean me. You like that I'm insecure. It makes you feel good about yourself. I'm not doing this anymore. Keep your phone on airplane mode, but when I die, don't say shit.
Starting point is 01:50:51 See? This is a lot of TMI. This is two young people. Being super manipulative to each other because their fucking feelings are involved and shit like that. Like they're just, they're really, they're just, they're fucking nasty to each other.
Starting point is 01:51:04 But who in this room doesn't know what that experience is like? involved in shit like that. They're just, they're really, they're fucking nasty to each other. But who in this room doesn't know what that experience is like? When you're at that point where you're mad at each other or where you think the break is happening and one person is playing super fucking nonchalant, usually the guy, and the girl is like, you know, just spazzing out and shit like that.
Starting point is 01:51:24 That's all I hear from those text messages. It sounds like both of them are doing both things. Yeah. So like both of them are playing nonchalant, both of them are being passive to each other. Both of them are not playing nonchalant. Farts and mail, enough of y'all two now. Not enough, but.
Starting point is 01:51:35 Enough of you two. I don't hear her playing nonchalant at all. This is what I'm saying. Not enough of you. What I'm saying is this, and again, speaking from a little bit of experience, I don't know if you brothers have any experience here. And if y'all do, I don't know why y'all talking right now. I want to hear your point.
Starting point is 01:51:52 This is what I'm saying. In the beef where two people are wrong and playing a part, there's the person that's playing along and whatever the beef is, and then there's somebody that's not playing at all there's somebody that is so angry or so emotional and so narrow-minded that they are not looking at the bigger picture here once she says to him i will die behind this or whatever the fuck she said even if it's from whatever is from as a, yeah, now you have taken this to another level and I don't know if you are of enough health in mind, body, and spirit to take care of you and a child.
Starting point is 01:52:35 And nobody talks about that part of postpartum. I'm not against y'all calling this behavior postpartum. Y'all got all types of words, postpartum, Stockholm. Let me ask. But postpartum is, there's nothing to deny about postpartum. Postpartum is what happens after you have a baby. It is, there's postpartum depression, there's postpartum psychosis, there is postpartum.
Starting point is 01:52:59 And there is like her hormone, like, it's stressful enough to have had a child, but when you enter into a chaotic, erratic situation with the person that is supposed to be loving on you and the kid and creating a stress. Can you care for a child with postpartum health? I don't need the word to. You can care for a child, but you gotta do everything
Starting point is 01:53:23 that you possibly can to create as stress-free an environment as possible. And it doesn't seem like this is what's happening. In caring for the child, should you text anybody and say, I'm going to kill myself? And if you do, how do you think that person should respond? That's my question. And seeing that tweet, have I ever got that tweet.
Starting point is 01:53:47 You've never had a girl say that to you? We're talking about, no, no, no. I'm talking about someone that I have a child with. My baby mother has never gotten to that. Had she did, my immediate number one thing is I got to go get my kid. Okay. Whether you're serious or not, I can't play with it. And I totally understand that, but if we're gonna be talking about you, to me,
Starting point is 01:54:10 I don't know what happened between you and your baby mama if it was contentious or whatever, but you seem to be an extraordinarily even keeled logical person, you know? So I don't really, I don't know, but I don't really see you antagonizing your baby mama, especially after the kid has been born. I just don't see that happening with you.
Starting point is 01:54:32 That is what I see. I don't matter in this situation, but this is how I am reading the situation. He is incredibly antagonizing to a woman who has just had his child, and they're playing these nasty little fucking games with each other but to me she doesn't really want to play these games he releases the text messages just to get everybody on he's
Starting point is 01:54:53 playing that game of trying to get everybody on the side I'm trying to get the public I'm trying to get the courts to understand what I'm dealing with okay let me ask you a question when were the text messages written versus when were they released? Because if there's a huge gap between. He dropped the text messages from what I, the dates I looked at was March. Yeah, March 20, 24.
Starting point is 01:55:13 Yeah. Well, the text messages came out a couple days ago when he filed to keep her from leaving. In defense after she released the relationship. Yeah, after she, yes. Can I ask you a question? Does anybody know how old their child is? He's one at the most.
Starting point is 01:55:30 Yeah. Cool. Almost two. Almost two? I want to stay here. I don't want to fight you. I'm putting it out on the record that I don't want to fight. You're great with the facts, Jeremy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:37 Thank you, Jeremy. So think about this. Postpartum can last for a certain amount of time. Right? So you are clear in saying that postpartum is a real thing where you may or may not be in control of your hormones, your emotional state, your mental state, et cetera. Yes?
Starting point is 01:55:53 In certain instances, yes. She's taking three minutes. She's taking some time out. I know. I'm not. So we're not gonna give an answer. So to everybody in the room, we've heard that- Postpartum means yes.
Starting point is 01:56:03 Yes, that you don't have control. Thank you. Because nobody has control over their hormones. You can't control them. I'm asking you a question. You're right, you're right. She can't control hormones. So if you are a dad and postpartum can last
Starting point is 01:56:17 for the better part of a year, postpartum can last, they said, multiple years. So if this person is saying that I'm thinking about killing myself, i.e. my child, whatever the case may be, then I don't give a fuck when the text messages came out. If you're saying that the child is less than a year old or a year old, those text messages are still valid
Starting point is 01:56:36 because she could still be under emotional, hormonal, and mental distress right now. See, my only issue with that, and I'm inserting myself here, Paul, if I were to get that message, I'm not waiting for March to a year or so later to act on it. My point is those text messages still remain valid today if her emotional and mental state are still compromised today. Yeah, but if you really felt that way, why are you waiting a year to go after him?
Starting point is 01:57:06 I don't know what he did then. You don't know that he did. We moving that. I'm talking about today. If I'm him and she wrote me that text message, you know what I'm doing right in that moment? I am calling whatever authority that I need to, and I'm going to try my hardest to get a psychological.
Starting point is 01:57:21 I don't know if he did or didn't. To get a psychological. Mal, Mal, Mal, this is where I have to interrupt you. Okay, go ahead. I have to interrupt you with respect. You can't say that. You don't, you have no idea what you would do. When this topic came up with me and my girl
Starting point is 01:57:34 and we were talking about the text, I said, I mean, I wasn't all the way serious. If I see that text, I'm calling the police. I said that same thing that you just said. She reminded me, I had already been, I'm calling the police. I said that same thing that you just said. She reminded me, I had already been through this. And I didn't call the company. I didn't call the police at all. I went outside while we were on our birthday dinner
Starting point is 01:57:57 and did my best to talk to, you know what I mean? Like, you know, you can't just say, I'm going to call the police. All this theoretical shit is't gauge the seriousness of somebody when they text it is all over. They weren't even broken up yet. And that's my point. And of course, you know, we are totally armchair
Starting point is 01:58:15 quarterbacking this situation. We're just opining on their fucking business because it's everywhere. But to your point, you're right. You don't know what you're gonna do in this situation. You can think in hindsight and say, I would be comfortable having a psychological evaluation done on her because I'm concerned for my child.
Starting point is 01:58:33 You would think that that's what somebody would think, but if they don't in the moment, then that's understandable too. It's also understandable to think that she's just being hysterical in the moment, saying something to try to get a rise out of you because nothing else has worked. But let me tell you,
Starting point is 01:58:47 all of this is potentially true. As a man, there are a lot of steps and hurdles that you have to get to before you convince a judge or a court that a psych eval is needed for your child's mother. It's not just as simple as you going in there and requesting one. I feel
Starting point is 01:59:05 like niggas going court all the time and say hey this lady but you know what they don't they don't have a whole list of text messages showing potentially like erratic behavior yeah you just going in off word of mouth. Yes, you got to prove a lot of that To when you talk about postpartum is dangerous to point the blame at the other person instead of finding solutions of how to deal with Postpartum when Mel is telling the story or freeze even you you saying that the environment has to be like this and be like that but there's really Limited to no solution in dealing with somebody with postpartum. And I feel like it's very reckless to just put the blame
Starting point is 01:59:51 on the person that's in that position as far as creating an environment, a safe environment. You mean a man or the woman? Putting it on the man. Because there's no solution. What Mel is saying or what Mel said is, yo, A, I see him antagonizing somebody who's dealing with postpartum.
Starting point is 02:00:07 Maybe he doesn't know how to deal with a person who's going through postpartum. I watched this man online say how much, yo, please leave her alone. We're not going there. I'm not talking about her. I still love her. This is that and the third, I try to keep my distance,
Starting point is 02:00:19 whatever she says, because I don't know what she's dealing with at this current moment, especially young people. They don't know how to deal with it. And the kids. So to say that and like, oh, he's creating an environment like that, what about the person with postpartum
Starting point is 02:00:29 creating the environment as well? How do we deal with that? How does the person dealing with the person that's going through postpartum navigate in that system? Hey, let me tell you, I'm gonna use myself. There was a time when I thought my baby mother was suffering from postpartum depression. I spoke about this back when we was in Oak Creek. I went to her and said, hey, I know I'm not equipped to deal with this.
Starting point is 02:00:52 I don't even know fully what it is. Do you think we could talk to somebody? I'll pay for it, whatever the case. Let's find somebody. Let's try to... Because I ain't the right person. I know that. Whatever I could say is probably gonna be wrong, might make it worse, but I see there is something
Starting point is 02:01:08 happening here. She told me no, she wasn't. And we let it, it continued to get worse to the point, that's when I was like, she wasn't what? She wasn't somebody. I was just about to say while you was talking, I thought you would end differently,
Starting point is 02:01:22 but I'm like damn, that's the blessing. I went through that and the person I was speaking to had no idea that that was postpartum. It was her first kid, she didn't know. I'm coming to you saying, hey, is this that? Because they warned us about it in the hospital. Is there a way to help? And if you say no, now we're just back to dealing
Starting point is 02:01:39 with whatever comes with it. Exactly. Or if you're a man and they say no, you sitting there like, oh, all right. Can I suggest? She thinks it's having children that you can't. And then the side don't have postpartum. Late 30s, that niggas having children.
Starting point is 02:01:50 The side is still. You're having children in your late 30s so you know how to deal with that. You're more knowledgeable than somebody in their early 20s. Much more tolerant, much more patient. Can I also suggest something? That because she said no, and because yours said no, there is a lot of women,
Starting point is 02:02:08 women when they become mothers, even before they become mothers when they're pregnant, there is this pressure to become super mom and know everything immediately. And I'm speaking from the standpoint of I've never had a child, I lost one, so I never had one, but I have a lot of friends that I was there for when their children were born,
Starting point is 02:02:28 and I was very supportive because they just didn't know what they were doing. They feel like they're expected to know everything, but you don't know anything. You don't know what you don't know until you fucking know it. And a lot of times, that added pressure and a lack of understanding that you are physically in postpartum Not not knowing because you've never had it before you've never experienced it. You just know you feel whatever you feel
Starting point is 02:02:54 It's I feel like it's difficult to identify that that's what you're going through in the moment that you're going through if you've never Experienced it before and that's that's all I'm gonna say in this scenario. That is an amazing point. I agree with her. For women and men. And men. You don't know what you don't know. That's exactly what I was about to say. You just mute it up, just mute it up.
Starting point is 02:03:15 I was gonna agree with you. But let me finish, let me land my plane. I'm sorry. Like, so you don't, I agree. You don't know what you don't know until you know it. And guess what? In the household with the postpartum woman and the man No, he gonna be second to know it no time out though
Starting point is 02:03:29 Cuz Mel said yo the women think that they supposed to be super mom Niggas think they supposed to be super dad to that is a fact You've just taken on a whole new individual that is responsible for breathing Because of you that is if you got to make sure that they're healthy you got to make sure that they're healthy, you gotta make sure that they're fed, you gotta make sure that they're clothed. You gotta also provide a, kids ain't cheap. So now you bring on whole new experiences, whole new expenses, like it's a different ballgame.
Starting point is 02:03:56 It's just not a ballgame. And please don't take this, it ain't just a ballgame that women are playing. The men are entered into that game as well. And that piece gets pushed to the side. And it is, to add on. My nigga, when my daughter woke up, I took the night shift. I'm self-employed.
Starting point is 02:04:12 When my girl works, my nigga, when my daughter woke up at nighttime at three and two and whatever, I'm the nigga that sat in the rocking chair rocking my daughter back to sleep. Men get just pushed to the side for that shit, nigga. I'm the nigga that's going downstairs doing all the other shit when my girl asleep. What you called the Mexicans and told them,
Starting point is 02:04:28 no, about the business. Nothing, nigga, you gotta, yo, no, he's right, my nigga, that modifies your business. All of that shit took place. Like, yo, people just look at it like, it's a one-sided thing, it's not. And look, to what you were saying, as a man,
Starting point is 02:04:42 you ain't just looking at, you gotta make sure the baby's good. You gotta make sure she good too. My girl could barely walk, she had a C-section, my girl could barely walk, I had to walk her, pick her up off the toilet, walk her to the bed from the fucking toilet, my nigga. All of those things, making sure, me,
Starting point is 02:04:57 I sleep hard, kinda. Y'all gotta wake up on a schedule to make sure my girl is taking her antibiotics and her pain pills, all of that shit on different schedules and all of that stuff. It's a joint effort, fam. I hate when we sit up here and act like it's just a woman thing.
Starting point is 02:05:09 It's not just a woman thing, even though they are going through mad shit that we couldn't possibly fathom. Men are going through other shit, and we just discredit that piece. So to them, I hate that this is probably- Because they pushed somebody out of their shit. Of course.
Starting point is 02:05:26 I understand why we're supposed to be there in support. It's not even remotely equal. I'm just saying that both of these people are ignorant and not knowledgeable about what is going on and what's to come. I want to add on to what y'all saying too. Not saying this applies here, but... I'm not saying this applies here, but Dumb Chicks with the angel images, I know ain't nobody gonna talk about it. I know ain't nobody gonna talk about it.
Starting point is 02:05:53 You right, we ain't gonna talk about it. I'ma talk about it though. How about it? Hey. Hey. Joe Budpock, dude. Joe Budpock at it. Prize mix, prize mix.
Starting point is 02:06:04 Featuring Ice and Ish and flipping Mel in parts. Dr. Mark Lamont and Jeremy Hackney. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The women with the angel images are able to get off a lot under the guise of I have an angel image. And I imagine it to be frustrating for a man. I'm not even just talking about them. They young, so we're gonna apply the young card.
Starting point is 02:06:27 But there are a lot of people out there hiding behind just this image of perfection. And behind the scenes, they are an absolute demon and fucking monster. And nobody believes the guy because this girl done been in a fucking movie or two. And I could say that a million times. I thought it about Kiki Palmer and her baby daddy
Starting point is 02:06:53 with what they went through. I can name you six different couples to where the lady is an angel so nah, no way she did that. Kick fucking rocks, man. Do you know what Johnny Depp went through? I didn't look at that case, but yeah. Similar shit, like until he started. Oh, with Amber?
Starting point is 02:07:10 He had to prove, man. He had to prove, like, yo, no dog, she shitted in my bed. I wasn't familiar with Amber. They didn't believe, nobody was, but she had an image of a certain level of innocence or purity or coolness that he had to now start going to get voicemails and recordings that she didn't know when he was recording her saying, you pussy, I only
Starting point is 02:07:31 smacked you, you pussy, you're a man, eat it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like he had to have video, I mean, not video, audio recordings of the shit that was transpiring before he was even taken seriously. Yeah, I just think that's, I just think it's whack. I think that shit is whack. That's it. I don't have a deeper dive on it, but there's a lot of it going on out there.
Starting point is 02:07:52 I'll be without class and coof to continue to give you the names on this list. So I won't, but anyway. I just wish it wasn't all public. Like that's the worst part. That's the hardest part. That's the hardest part. We're seeing every inch of this play out in public.
Starting point is 02:08:06 And it was clearly a lot of like, there was maybe postpartum depression in manic, there was maybe cheat. Like there's all these things going on, but we had to see all of that play out versus them just working it out in private. Which again, I'm not in the public eye like that. I don't have a child, so I can't speak to that.
Starting point is 02:08:22 But throwing some of that on the way. It'd be the women rushing to the courthouse. It'd be the women rushing to the courthouse. It'd be the women rushing to the courthouse to get help because the dude is not doing something that they want or not behaving accordingly. Men, I'll speak for black men, a lot of them ain't rushing to go start the courthouse process. That ain't happening.
Starting point is 02:08:42 Some more shit that's taboo that we can't say. It'd be their ass going up there. Shit, in my case, I said it. Yo, this is about to go public. We should, let's do our best. It never works like that. So I mean, we can sit there and I feel like calling Ben Stables. We're, oh, it's public. It's public. You, where the fuck did you think it was going? But that's a you ain't important enough for them to seal nothing. You didn't pay for no fucking mediator. You went to court and unfortunately The emotional part and the young part they don't even think that far They don't think about it. Oh, this is age coming to that part
Starting point is 02:09:20 I know but I'm supposed to think the person that, all right we can do age, age plays a part. The person that can't, I'm so, but I received that. The person that don't think that far is also the best person to look after a child. That ain't no Chris go there. That's a good thing right there. This topic is home for me. Home? The topic is home for me. It does. It does. That's large. Home. The topic is home for it, it does. It does. We cook it large. That boy, yeah, that boy. It's a fatback in that motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:09:47 Yeah. Ooh. I ain't even going to Popeye's. I'm over here, bro. I'm busy. I'm glad, I survived. I survived. Fuck you.
Starting point is 02:09:57 And a lot of that is in large credit to both of my kids' moms. It may have been rough for a second, I survived. And I couldn't have done it without you. That's how, I survived and I couldn't have done it without you. I couldn't have done it without you. I'm in the same boat. I'm extremely grateful and blessed. Hey, the other night my kid left the house.
Starting point is 02:10:11 They threw the lawn out there and he got the Swiffer. My kid left the house the other day and I couldn't find the Apple remote. I'm so fly in my co-parenting, I call late. Like a mutt, hey. If the kid is awake. ask him what remote is. Me and my unknown talk afternoon, 11 o'clock, 10 o'clock, nah, I wouldn't even do that because you know, you don't want motherfuckers to start thinking shit. I ain't calling you for whatever you do, you make a popcorn with your nigga, I don't know
Starting point is 02:10:42 what you're doing over there. I want it to be peaceful though though She's thinking it's an emergency I should do the it's already on your phone Control it from your phone. She put him on the phone She put him on the phone, he was stressed. I don't know where it hurts. I ain't never been in bed, you don't see. I'll be back. Yo, you gotta be.
Starting point is 02:11:07 I love you, man. I love you, man. But shit, that shit like that is just a blessing for me. It's the little things. It's the little things. I done been through the depths of this. And it don't feel good. So prayers to both of them.
Starting point is 02:11:18 Indeed. I shall remind them. I hope y'all find a pathway. And the baby. And the baby. Nobody wants to say it. The baby come after we just. And the baby. And the baby. Nobody wants to say it. The baby come after we... The comic girl. Yeah, after we settle off fighting.
Starting point is 02:11:31 Comic girl. We'll both get to think about the baby again in a second, but shorty wildin'. Once the emotions cool off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Once the emotions cool off, then you can start thinking about the baby, if they ever do.
Starting point is 02:11:42 Yeah, I agree. What'd you throw on after you got the remote that's the real question oh damn what was I feeling in the finish oh the friends and the John had to finish something it wasn't that I remember it I remember I was in the middle with some shit I had to finish oh it was it was on Netflix. What's the shit I've been watching on fucking Netflix? The three episodes. Love Island? No.
Starting point is 02:12:09 No. No. I'm gonna just open that shit up. It wasn't Mobland, y'all. Oh, no. It's Mobland. What you call it came out this weekend. It wasn't Mobland.
Starting point is 02:12:19 It was the three episodes. But anyway, I'll let Jeremy know, but what is our next topic? You guys did great. You too? You did great. You killed that shit. I was worried.
Starting point is 02:12:30 You did good though. You could hear that tick that she did. Earlier? That's why I was like, anybody just stop, because I thought. We could hear the ticking, Mel. I thought she was gonna, it was about to be a storm. It'd be jumping out.
Starting point is 02:12:40 Oh no. I'm not doing that anymore. I am. You got all POVs there, not doing that no more. Are you okay? I am. Okay. You got all POVs there, I feel like. Yeah. I can't wait to hear you and DJ Head and Elliot Wilson break this down.
Starting point is 02:12:52 You know what, I think we might be skipping that one on the topic. That's my problem up here. Like, we don't skip shit. And when we skip shit, we get in trouble. No, I respect it, but the internet gets on you guys if you do skip it. Like they will, your community is so strong,
Starting point is 02:13:08 they'll be like, oh, and they have conspiracies about it too. They'll be like, oh, they didn't talk about it. They scared to talk about that, or they, such and such is paying them. Do you guys look at all that stuff? Like, I know you have the JVP community and Twitter. Like, are you looking at all these clips
Starting point is 02:13:22 and all the stuff that people are saying every week? Like, do you guys pay attention? They see a lot of it. Them too. I used to. No, I don't see a lot. I see it all. I see every word that's said.
Starting point is 02:13:32 I search every name, I go on every platform, I look at the niggas with two views, 10 views, 100 views, 1,000 views, every one of them niggas talking shit. Or picking us up, I'm looking. Cause I see, I feel like you give nods to it too. Like you'll throw little like comments in that you know the people who commented it will see it and they'll be like, oh see, we're making our, you know.
Starting point is 02:13:56 We're having an impact. Look at you, look at you. You one of them. Hey. He's picking it up, he's picking it up. What else needs our attention? Come on, we on a roll. We on a roll, you guys, don't stop now.
Starting point is 02:14:12 All right, well, I mean, it's not in the same realm, but there's court involved. Eminem is suing Metta for... Oh, I'm not familiar with this. Yes, he's suing Metta for, On a million, 100 million dollars. They've licensed, well they've used his music without licensing.
Starting point is 02:14:34 How? Through Instagram, Facebook, all their platforms. He's suing them for 109 million, and it's over 200 songs that they have been allowed on their platforms without interest. Like to use on like reels and shit like that? Yeah, all of that. For years it's been.
Starting point is 02:14:49 For years. Almost, I think a decade or a little around there that they've allowed their users to bump his shit. They said he just sat back in the cut chilling until accumulated to the point where he could sell him for 109 million dollars. So couldn't every artist in theory do the same thing? That's what I was just about to say.
Starting point is 02:15:08 Yeah, but they might have already got those artists' license. Or they might have got a license through... I don't know how the licensing shit works, but when I was reading over it, yeah, it was saying that basically they've been allowed people to use his shit for a decade. Apparently he got some level of control. Yeah, without paying.
Starting point is 02:15:23 They don't have. Got it. That the other artists don't have. Yes. Or he got some little control. Yeah, without paying. They don't have. Got it. That the other artists don't have. Yes. Or he might own his shit. I don't know how it's working. I think, I don't know his situation. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:15:33 If he owns his own shit, then they would have had to come directly to him, whereas other artists they might have to go to UMG or somebody else that owns their shit. Right. Interesting. Or they might have got a partnership, Mettaigod already got a partnership with UMG. Yeah they do. For the whole gamut of their artists. Whereas if he owns his own shit,
Starting point is 02:15:52 they might be outside of that scope. Or he might be trying to start something. You know what I mean? Like break down a barrier. Could be. Which I mean kudos to him if he does. 100 million. 100 million. 100 million.
Starting point is 02:16:05 Yeah. Do you think that affects things at this point where Instagram's just gonna say, fuck it, we're removing all music? No. No. Cause they got deals in place already. Most artists don't own their own music. They're actually, if you go now,
Starting point is 02:16:17 go post something on Instagram now. Hey, if you add music, they will make you, make you increase your reach. They'll kill 10 of y'all artists before they remove your music. What the fuck are y'all talking about? A magic bow accident. The sharks got them with five A-list artists.
Starting point is 02:16:35 Removing their music. Those artists want their music on there. Yeah. And he probably does too to a degree, but... I want to get more out of it. I'm curious to read more about this. I was on the way. To answer you from earlier, Jeremy, Jeremy was the Tylenol murderers. I had to finish episode 3. Ah Tylenol murder
Starting point is 02:16:55 Into the capsules I wish anybody up here would would watch it because it like kind of ended on a cliffhanger All right, and I don't know I'll watch it. I would totally I've just been stuck on fucking Yellowstone. Sorry. I haven't even started Yellowstone. Yellowstone's fire. You've never watched Yellowstone? I started in 1923 now. Still don't know if I love it.
Starting point is 02:17:16 I like them all. Did you? I like them all. Yellowstone is so good. Yellowstone, the main one is Superfire. Super. Yeah, I just don't know if it's good enough for me and my girl. It is.
Starting point is 02:17:28 It fucking is. If it's good enough for her, then I'll watch it sooner than later. My girl put me on Yellowstone. I'm in my track. The shows that only Joe Mudden likes are going to take a while now. I can't just immediately watch them. I have to find time for those. You got to find time for the solo shows.
Starting point is 02:17:42 You're like hiding in the corner watching them go. Y'all missing what he's saying. I'm not hearing him. He don't have the time for the solo shows. You're like hiding in the corner watching the show. Y'all missing what he's saying. I'm not hearing him. He don't have the time for the solo show. He can't watch the show. There's plenty of shows that Joseph Anthony Budden Jr. Would love. Would be into and love to start,
Starting point is 02:17:55 like Yellowstone being one of them. But I have to wait till I'm 30, I mean, 50, 60. 77. Yeah, so those don't take precious. You just have a list of one day I went to this. Yes. I do too. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:08 I do. I finished Mobland as soon as my girl got away from me. Man, right through it. Yeah. Now I don't want to put that on her. I'm not a big fan of the accents and she knows that so we just left it. But when she left I was like, I'll try these British motherfuckers. And I can't lie, some of the worst English accents you'll ever hear in the series.
Starting point is 02:18:27 Which is funny because I think Pierce Brosnan is really from over there. And his accent was so bad. Those accents were really bad. The accents. Some of that other shit. Nigga, I had to get through that and not understand a third of what they was talking about sometimes. Y'all know I hate accents. But my hearing is bad too now. All that, turn that shit up into bigs for 30 years.
Starting point is 02:18:50 Yeah. It don't work. It don't work. I put my TV to volume 89. I can't hear nothing. It's with the subtitles on. Anyway, I didn't love Mobland's ending. I didn't love it. I didn't love my lens ending. Um, I didn't love it. I didn't love the ending. You're too great of a series today. I didn't love the ending, but you know. You see they're going into season two. With absolute certainty they're going into season two. Yeah, but give me something. Give me something.
Starting point is 02:19:18 I know you're going into season two. You had a good series. Nah, I think they left it open. Too open for me. Too open. I think they got four or five directions I think it's gonna get better. Why you didn't show me what Pierce Brosnan's wife was doing the same way you showed me Pierce in the jail scene at the end. They did. I think we should have got another one. Do you know how many of these actors are actually English in Mobland? No. Like Helen Mirren, she's an English actress. Tom Hardy's
Starting point is 02:19:47 English. Pierce Brosnan is Irish actually. That's why I couldn't understand nothing Tom Hardy was saying. No, and Pierce Brosnan puts on an Irish accent. You said he got a bad English accent. Whatever his accent is, it's Irish. He's from Ireland. I don't care. He was from Ireland in the show. I don't care, what are you talking about? Janet McSheer, she's an English actress. These were real accents. That's not changing what I'm saying. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 02:20:15 They real English accents are bad. So, you know there's different English accents too, right? Educate me, I don't. Okay, so there's different English accents too, right? Educate me, I don't. Okay, so there's refined English accents, like Downton Abbey, and then there is like Cockney accents. What's the shit man's in them? What's in it? What's the problem?
Starting point is 02:20:36 When we think about England, we only think about London. Yeah. Y'all don't like that. It's like how somebody thinks about New York City in a tribute to the United States. Motherfuckers from North Carolina don't speak like us. Muffuckers from Cleveland don't speak like us. People from LA don't speak like us. So we just attribute England to London
Starting point is 02:20:53 and think that everybody from England is supposed to talk like a Londoner. And it's like, no, there's like the south side, like they are, it's daunting. Manchester's different shit in England. You know what else didn't make sense in Mobland? Let me fucking just ruin it for some people. I'm more on Mobland.
Starting point is 02:21:09 Yeah, go ahead. Spoiler alert, so fast forward me. What is the real nature between Pierce's wife and homie that she caught? It don't make sense. I think he popped. He did, but that, it don't make sense. It don't make sense. I think he popped. I think she had, she thought her cachet with him was bigger than it was.
Starting point is 02:21:30 You just killed, alright stop Ish. This is where you lose me. Again, fast forward to this because I'm ruining this. I'm mad that y'all ain't finished. You killed dude's kid and wife and it's shut it up. And then called him with some type's shut it up. No, I'm and they called him With some type of reprieve. No stop it. So they was fly until you kill my wife I'm a rock with me. You killed my wife and my kid that'll usually do it Yeah, once he she killed the wife
Starting point is 02:22:00 Get my wife for no reason just like you ain't like an attitude. No't like her attitude at the repass. No, because she assaulted you at the repass. She assaulted her. She said, yo, do you think Conrad has to sleep with this every night? Ugh, he has to fuck her. Because we're at my son's funeral that y'all killed. Allegedly. Allegedly.
Starting point is 02:22:16 Not allegedly, killed my son. Because it was alleged initially. Nigga, they know you killed his. They didn't know that until after they killed the wife and everybody got on the phone and the son said, I chopped your boy up real fine. They didn't know it at first. Did somebody call you after your son and wife is murdered and say Richie? No. No. The sex would have to be absolutely insane for you to answer that call. It's not so coochie that good in the world.
Starting point is 02:22:39 What's up? That's the only part in the story for me that was just tough to get with, but I still enjoyed it. It was a few. I still enjoyed it. I still enjoyed it. My plan was pretty cool. What else needs our attention outside of TV shit? Where my phone at? Duke, Duke the God. Duke Dennis?
Starting point is 02:22:58 What? Dog, no you didn't. No. Look at this. Duke, Dennis, and shout out to Duke Degas. Word, shout out to Duke. That's my arrow. That's why I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 02:23:09 I ain't never trying to diss Duke Degas. Duke Degas introduced me to A-Rap, I think. Shout out to A-Rap. Duke Dennis. Duke Dennis has children. Yes. Okay. Is that true, Jeremy, or fact checker?
Starting point is 02:23:24 It is true. Yes, he did. He has kids. He didn't say how many he didn't say all of it, but there's like speculation that he had six children every year. It gets brought up on stream allegedly that he has a new, this is not a super important topic and one that we probably normally wouldn't even cover, but it's so funny. And it did take over my timeline until DDG took over. Duke Dennis is the streamer dude
Starting point is 02:23:49 who all of the ladies were going crazy over because he's an attractive man. Well, Relish outed him out of the song. He's a part of A&P. But how a lot of casual people learned about him for at least a year, women were going crazy over Duke Dennis. True.
Starting point is 02:24:06 Yes. Then they learned he had kids. How many kids? It's a lot of kids. Six. Six kids. I'm hanging on to numbers. By how many people?
Starting point is 02:24:18 Six. A lot of people. Yeah. And then women totally turned on him. All of a sudden he was not attractive. They start saying shit like, oh, he's a nasty dick all around town, nigga, and you're 31, hanging around,
Starting point is 02:24:30 they just, all the insults came out now because they learned that Duke Dennis has kids. Are you familiar with this? I'm looking him up right now. Yo, when you pull out your scope, though. I gotta stop talking about it, because it's a few other, but when you pull out your scope though, I gotta stop talking about it because it's a few episodes, but when you pull the scope out on it, talk to me, yeah, stop playing. Scorpio, big Scorpio vibes.
Starting point is 02:24:54 Anyway, what do you guys think about Duke Dennis having children and women changing how they feel about you based on the amount of kids you have and the amount of baby mothers that you have? Are men allowed to do that to them? Oh. That's one too. What do we mean, what do we think that he has kids? He has kids. He has children. The amount of children is, you know,
Starting point is 02:25:15 that's the lifestyle that he's living. It became a TikTok trend. Girls started lying saying they was his baby mama. It's a lifestyle. And then some of the baby mamas came out and started talking about him as a parent, which I won't do, but it's become a thing, is all I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:25:29 I think it's hilarious. The women turned on him online. They started taking pictures of him without his glasses. I'm cool with it, like I said, it's a lot of pictures. They found a picture of a man without his glasses trying to roast him and stuff like that. Yeah, they called him Glasses Fish. It went viral, that went like 100 million views
Starting point is 02:25:45 on that one picture. Yeah, they was trying to do all that, man. He did look a little different without his glasses. All right. I mean, when you, yo, listen, when you're younger and you inspire to be, to live a rock star lifestyle and you finally catch a moment, man, you just going to live the lifestyle
Starting point is 02:26:01 whether it's right, wrong, or indifferent. You just living the lifestyle, and now hopefully that this has came to the surface, he could reevaluate how he's treating the mother of his children. Ladies, I will give y'all a piece of advice that my OG dollar deal gave me in 95, 96, when I used to see something fine. And he would say, do you think you are the first gentleman to notice that she was fine? Nah, nah, nah. Nah, usually.
Starting point is 02:26:38 Not that, that's fine. Somebody better had seen that before me. So she got a couple of kids, she on wick. She... Niggas is runnin'. Niggas eatin' them wick snacks. Juicy, juicy. So why do the girls think the day the first people to notice that this nigga was fine? Somebody noticed before you, and let him shoot it up. Like you would.
Starting point is 02:27:04 So what the hell's the problem here? I don't think there's necessarily a problem. I mean, I've definitely, you know, in the past, found somebody attractive and then found out that they had like seven children and, Lord Jesus, you know that's you? Spam. Okay.
Starting point is 02:27:22 Found out that they had like seven children from five women and I was like, okay, pass. Doesn't really seem like a- What would the number be? Like if it was both of them? Ideal situation for me. If it was three would that be okay?
Starting point is 02:27:35 Seven was too much? Three what? You love the guy, three kids. Oh no, no, there's no love yet. I've seen you and I'm mildly interested. Okay, okay. How many kids is too many kids for a guy to date Melissa Ford?
Starting point is 02:27:47 Yeah. Oh, I mean, there's different variables now because of like, you know. Well, I'm asking now, I'm not asking back in the day. At this stage of my life, I understand that men have probably, you know, had long-term relationships and have children. So they should be grown in a way now.
Starting point is 02:28:03 Hopefully, hopefully, because if you got like newborns or like two years old, no, no, no, no, no. I prefer them to be like in their teens. I'd be a dope stepmom, but yeah. Wish you would walk through the house with my stepmom. Yeah. Are you crazy, girl? Can you do that?
Starting point is 02:28:24 Yeah. Your searches are your girl crazy. What are you fucking? Mom! Kavis Parker. My genre. What the hell was that? Popular genre too. Word.
Starting point is 02:28:39 First thing that pops up, you just hear it. I'm just in trouble, help us out. Since you supplied your phone number, I can't help but call you too. Oh, lord. Popular genre, too. Word. First thing that pops up, unfortunately. Yo, right. How did you get stuck under that table? That's how I know that I need help.
Starting point is 02:28:56 You got stuck. I think if Mel went home right now and started a YouTube channel pretending to be everyone's godmother. She's out of here. Godmother or stepmother? Stepmother is the genre. It's the genre. No discounts on this one.
Starting point is 02:29:16 We raisin' it up on this one. Stuck in the sink? Under the bed? Yeah, Mel just thought, where did I put the pomalas? Oh, here it is, here it is, Catherine. She's like, wanting a lawn and shit. Yeah, rolling house.
Starting point is 02:29:36 You went beyond for something. I'm trying to tell you, I don't even want peace. Might have to try that shit out. I don't want peace. No, no. No? You can't give them half off on that one. I don't want a piece.
Starting point is 02:29:45 Okay, alright, full price. There you go, man. Oh no, that got. Okay. Mel is not ambitious enough. Nah, she not. One to ten, what do you think your ambition is? That's for the room two, Mel to start.
Starting point is 02:29:58 Huh. Two. And I do have three questions for y'all two. I think it might be for Patreon though. No, fuck that. We having fun. I'm out of the way. Wiley's calling for Patreon. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:30:08 How ambitious do I think that I am? I think I'm... One to ten. I think I'm like a seven. Seven. Take away six. Six in a pot. No, seven take away six.
Starting point is 02:30:21 Six in a pot. I give you six in a pot. Flip. Nine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Flip might six in a pot. I give you six in a pot flip nine. Yeah. Yeah You'd be ambitious in the project See my numbers is up right You doing when I'm talking all that shit I gotta issue it I'm gonna take you by the 20-8 boy Yeah, I keep doing it. I see my numbers
Starting point is 02:30:44 Queen's fixed and all that shit I got to issue with. I'm going to text you about it later on. Yeah, keep doing it. You can see my numbers, all right? Queen's fixed. Queen's fixed. Fixed it right on up. Flip demon. Queen's fixed. I'm a three. I'm telling you right here.
Starting point is 02:30:55 Why would you say you're a three? I disagree with him. I really want to know. Why would you say you're a three? I don't think so either. No, I feel like this answer is going to be fascinating. Go ahead. No, I just think that most of the freak? I don't think so either. No, I feel like this answer's gonna be fascinating. Go ahead. No, I just think that most of the things
Starting point is 02:31:07 that I could embark on or attempt to take advantage of, I don't. Do you think it's because you're a procrastinator? It's Dennis. He always has some fly shit to say. I said, I said. I disagree with that, though. Don't say embark.
Starting point is 02:31:19 Niggas said embark. What the fuck you think you're talking to, nigga? Niggas slapped you, man, boy. Embarked on something. Niggas slapped you, dude. Embarked. Who you trying to sound cool for nigga? That's cool. Don't sound cool nigga.
Starting point is 02:31:27 Why are you a three? I just explained. I love his honesty but he don't even care to change his shit. He don't want to change his shit. This is what it is. Cause he got a thousand dollars nigga. No my favorite part about itch is yo I'm 50 this is what it is nigga. It ain't changing.
Starting point is 02:31:35 It reminds me of Nana and them. When Nana and them got old. I just do what I want. Yo I'm 50 I've been like this my whole life. Fuck it it ain't changing. I'm 50 I've been like this my whole life. Fuck it it ain't changing. I'm 50 I've been like this my whole life.
Starting point is 02:31:43 Fuck it it ain't changing. I'm 50 I've been like this my whole life. Fuck it it ain't changing. I'm 50 I've been like this my whole life. Fuck it it ain't changing. I'm 50 I've been like this my whole life. 50 this is what it is nigga they change I'm 50 I've been like this my whole life fucking it ain't changing. I'm up nigga deal with it. I'm not fucking with my uncle still My ways is my ways is my ways ice freeze shit if you were three, I'm a two. Yeah, I think you're more like a six. I don't think so, Bree. I'm dead ass. I'm a six, seven. I'm dead ass.
Starting point is 02:32:09 Ice around the two? Lie in front of the boss. Ice around the two is called ambitious? Yeah. What's ambitious to you? The word. You just out here striving to do way more stuff. This nigga comes here on time.
Starting point is 02:32:24 Nigga, he came on his day off. Oh, stars in hell. Wait, that ain't ambitious. He comes on time. What does that mean? Come here and work on time? He came here on his day off. Nigga, this nigga is lit.
Starting point is 02:32:33 Let me ask you. Do you think Ice could, if he wanted to and he set his mind to it, jump into a whole bunch of other outside ventures? Yes, and he has. But I mean, commit and like really commit to it. As many as he can. If he could have 10 on the table, if he could have 10, how many do you think he'll pursue?
Starting point is 02:32:48 Okay, I get what you're saying. That's the, gotcha. All right, got it. Answer that. If I had like two. Probably two. Yeah, probably two. Two out of 10.
Starting point is 02:32:56 And I know that. He don't, I have opportunities now. That I get mad at myself. Okay, so let me put the. Hold up for a second. We asked Ish why. He's answered procrastination. Why for you? He's in the soft man era.
Starting point is 02:33:10 Yo, let him handle it. I just wanna love! Free shit! Free! Free! Free! That was a lie. That's funny. You can't fight the soft man.
Starting point is 02:33:25 That is an elaborate, yeah. I just wanna lie. That's the soft man, you can't fight. That nigga's a whole triple dad. He just lied. No, I wanna hear it. Yeah, Freeze. Honestly, I don't think I have the time.
Starting point is 02:33:35 And I know that sounds crazy. I know it sounds crazy. I think it's for both of us. I can't speak for him. I'm just going by my observation. Let me give you guys a- It's fear, too. Let me give you a definition. Fear plays a part in it.
Starting point is 02:33:46 Fear plays a huge part in it. Fear of what though? Success, failure. I think fears of success and failure play a part. I don't have a fear of failure because I'm trying to shoot and fail. Maybe success.
Starting point is 02:34:02 I fear of failing that I keep wanting to do more and more and more so I don't fail. You are ambitious. An ambitious person is someone who has a strong desire for success, achievement, and recognition. They are driven and motivated to reach their goals, often setting high standards for themselves. An ambitious individual is determined and willing to work hard to achieve their aspirations. So, yeah. I don't hear we and bitches by that definition. Me or Flip?
Starting point is 02:34:29 I thought the truth on mine. He said he and you. No, I said I'm not. I know, but she said you are. No, I was saying. Oh, Flip is not in question. Yeah, Flip is in question. Jeremy.
Starting point is 02:34:39 I would say a nine. The only reason I wouldn't put myself at a 10 is like, I'm not willing to sit there and do this 24 hours a day. I'm willing to do 15, 16. You know, most of my time goes towards advancing myself. What can I bring to the world? How can I use my gift to to reach the highest heights I possibly can? But I'm not willing to stream for 24 hours.
Starting point is 02:35:02 You know, I still am willing to have. Then how the fuck you get to a nine? He said the only reason he's not a 10 is because of. Oh, it's scary. Let me add, let me add real quick. The other reason why is because I'm not selfish enough. That's true. That's why.
Starting point is 02:35:17 That plays a role. I'm sitting here thinking about it. That plays a role. I put everybody else's shit in front of mine. When it comes to ambitious, oftentimes ruthlessness is a company. Mm-hmm. You know what six in order to be successful you you have to be self fucking next I just learned that like you have to be selfish. You have to be successful in order to get to the next level Well, if you follow and abide by some principles and morals that you live by I wouldn't say have to I would say it
Starting point is 02:35:45 Okay, I would say it comes hand in hand. Yeah, they can't go around. But if you, okay. I think you also, like. Come on, Parks, you know what I'm saying. I understand what you're saying. I may not be saying it right, but. There's such a thing as being too democratic, for sure. There's a lot of times where opportunity.
Starting point is 02:35:59 For sure, someone has to take the reins. There's a lot of times where opportunity will be right in front of you, and because you may like a person or this is my man, you won't take it. And when they take it, you're still behind. Oh, yeah. I've seen things like that.
Starting point is 02:36:11 I think a bigger thing is like, well, at least for me, is trying to bring other people along and. Did you say your number? No. Lifetime, scale of 110, right? Yeah. Now, 15. Today, probably like a 7 and a half, eight.
Starting point is 02:36:25 Got it, got it, got it. And tell me your number again, I forgot. I said seven because. You said six. No, I said seven. No, he said you were six. He said I'm six on the pop. I was just talking shit.
Starting point is 02:36:36 Yeah, but I'm seven because in terms of like my scale of values, ambition isn't, I don't even know if it cracks top 10. You know, there's so many other values that I place higher on the list. And in terms of peace and- Pretty privileged, too. I mean, maybe, maybe.
Starting point is 02:36:57 But also, I equate ambition with ruthlessness because of what I've witnessed, being in this industry for 25 years. The most ambitious and the most, generally speaking, the most ambitious and successful people I've ever witnessed that were super driven. Step down, motherfucker, forget it. All the fuck over them, like just rungs on the ladder.
Starting point is 02:37:17 I ain't got to let me do that. I disagree. It's just lived experience. Your experience is your experience. The things that I've witnessed, I'm just like, success does not mean enough to me to do things like that. You know? You've been around a billion year niggas.
Starting point is 02:37:30 But see, that's one view, and she's right. And I do have another question in closing, and she has more questions for us, so. One more thing, some people look at their success as being unselfish in that I'm doing all of these things for other people. I get that. You understand what I'm saying? Like some people doing that shit for themselves
Starting point is 02:37:51 in their own recognition, in their own conceitedness or arrogance or whatever the case may be. Some people like, yo, I'm busting my ass and I'm selfless so that all these other people that rely on me can have a better life than myself. Real quick, I know you- So it depends on what motivation. That's the ends justifying the means
Starting point is 02:38:07 type of situation there. But in the moment, you have to be a little selfish. You have to put the goal first. You have to, if I'm trying to become successful, I have to leave a little bit of shit behind. I said before, if I didn't, I live where I live just because I'm closer to my daughter. If I didn't have that. You found out live just because I'm closer to my daughter. If I didn't have.
Starting point is 02:38:25 I found out where you lived too. My mom told me. I ain't hiding from y'all. But I didn't know you lived over there, boy. Hey yo, stop, don't start you. Nice, all right. All right, all right. Man, that's the new shit.
Starting point is 02:38:37 That's, I know where you live. I'm coming over now. I didn't know that you was doing it like that. I'll be over there, nigga. The three bedrooms over there? That is the old one either. No,'t know that you was doing it like that. I'll be over there nigga the three bedrooms over there No, no, that's the new one the new one new new new new Yeah, that wasn't there when I grew up Well, okay So yeah, you know he lived there, you know, I
Starting point is 02:38:59 Know my mom started over I sleep right Say where? Oh, I'm driving over there. Oh, you crazy? That nigga in my hood? All right, go ahead. But yeah, you just got this, you have to be selfish. My final question to y'all before I toss them out here, which she had to say, specifically y'all, because the number was low.
Starting point is 02:39:20 Y'all don't have nobody that can push you through that or that you could lean on when you're not feeling so ambitious, right? Like sometimes I don't feel the greatest and I could rely on Ian to fucking have a good month and pull me, wait till I get back in my, I could rely on, my girl might push me sometimes. Hey baby.
Starting point is 02:39:39 Like y'all don't have nobody to push you or recognize when you're not feeling so ambitious and try to help or is that just a y'all thing? thing? No I don't to answer your question I got people that definitely try and push me I don't speak to them often enough. For the push to be effective? Yeah. Got it. I do have a couple people but honestly they don't even. They don't know? Yeah they don't know. They have no idea got it got it. Big male? I have people but they. No I meant for? Yeah, they don't know. They have no idea. Got it. Got it. Big Mel? I have people, but they.
Starting point is 02:40:06 No, I meant for your questions you had. Oh. Your number was high. I'm not asking. Oh, OK. Did you answer, Joe? What was your number? Shit.
Starting point is 02:40:12 One of them will call me as soon as he sees this. 100s, 1000s. 100s, 1000s. I refuse to even be limited to the nines and tens of this. You think that? Ambition-wise? Oh, for sure. For sure, for sure.
Starting point is 02:40:24 You think that too? Now? I don't definitely. I don't think that at all. You think that? Ambition wise? Oh, yeah. For sure, for sure. You think that too? Now, I don't definitely, I don't think that at all. I think now, I don't even think it's a six. I don't think that's fair. I think you all are projecting what you want him to do as opposed to what he wants him to do. Yeah, but no. That's not.
Starting point is 02:40:38 But that's a part of it. If you see, this is the thing, the people that push you see something in you that you may not see in yourself. So to push you, I see, I'ma just take it to some things that he said he wants to do. He ain't embark on them, and he right there and can do it, but he won't do it out of fear.
Starting point is 02:40:57 Nah, you're projecting. No I'm not. I think that's projecting. No I'm not. Like I said, it's not my shit. No, no, I'm going on what you said. I've sat here and said that I would try my hand in stand-up comedy. I don't think I'm not. It's not my shit. No, no. I'm going off what you said. I've sat here and said that I would try my hand at stand-up comedy.
Starting point is 02:41:07 I don't think I'm not doing that. Why you ain't buy no real estate yet? No, why you invest in real estate yet? Like, on a bigger scale? It's a simple answer. This is a very simple answer. Cause you drop money. Yeah, maybe I don't know.
Starting point is 02:41:22 And nobody knows it until you step off the ledge. Nobody don't have enough knowledge to go down that path. I just don't think that speaks to my ambition because I'm buying a bunch of real estate. My portfolio looks amazing. But never mind. It don't look like you saying you think it should look. No, the things that you said you want to do is what I'm saying. The shit that you buying is easy.
Starting point is 02:41:40 It's effortless. It's effortless. I think that's pretty much. It requires no effort. You needed the effort to make the money in order to buy the stuff that you wanted. I know, but that's my point. I think that's privilege. I think that's privilege.
Starting point is 02:41:52 That's my point. It's like an athlete, right? You might make $50 million a year playing basketball. You put in the effort to get good enough at the craft of basketball to attain this amount of money. But you might say, yo, I wanna go and learn how to do X, Y, and Z. You not necessarily taking the hours
Starting point is 02:42:09 that it takes to go learn X, Y, and Z. But the basketball shit is a layup for you. No one intended. Wait, I'm with you. I'm with you here. But that's because my hours, it ain't like my hours, my hours are dedicated. I'm serious though.
Starting point is 02:42:23 That's not true. Okay, let me just disagree though I think that my hours today most of them are dedicated to my goals one to ten one to ten thank you thank you I agree that's a flaw I don't even know that speaks to ambition. You gotta work on them. All of the flaws that we have in our personality, I'm shy by nature.
Starting point is 02:42:51 The people that know me know I'm shy by nature. I don't talk to strangers, I don't talk to people. Nigga, you gotta step outside of that personality trait that you have to get what you wanna get. And those things like what Corey is talking about, a million of them have come in your path and you turn them down all the time. Yeah, I just don't look at it as a lack of ambition.
Starting point is 02:43:12 I'm ambitiously chasing something else, so I'm not doing that right now. But I understand what y'all are saying. I don't really agree with that. And I don't know if I'll ever get to a point, Corey, where maybe I will. And I don't know if I'll ever get to a point or where where Maybe Jet I went to this shit
Starting point is 02:43:39 They offered to pay I said no will will do it. I showed up I sat in the middle like a fish in a fish tank Everybody who was anybody was able to come, say hello, shoot the shit. They were Patronis, they were fans, they loved y'all, they loved me, they had stories. Something like when I was a rapper and it was smile and I'm not good at that. So that's not, that's not, I'm not comfortable. That's just, the fact that you did that shit is fire.
Starting point is 02:44:00 Yeah, that's true. That ain't you. I can't say that I'll ever be comfortable with that, but I don't want to put a limit to what I would be comfortable with. And you might get comfortable. If blah blah blah came out and said, yo, we want to give you 50 mil to do X, Y, and Z,
Starting point is 02:44:14 this is a part of what we got to do. I want you to meet the... And if anybody out there would like to offer me 50 million to provide services. To be uncomfortable. Feel free to call Brother Schmortzman and we'll discuss it. You'll be on 10 that day. Because Stephen A went and cracked.
Starting point is 02:44:37 They kicked Michelle Biddle out of Sirius for Stephen A. And they got a little beef, so that's funny. But Stephen A just got 25 mil annually from Sirius for his show to go on top of the 100 that he just got. So Stephen A might be at Carl Anthony Towns money now, which I would be too if Paul Rosenberg didn't have me blackballed from Sirius. It's cool.
Starting point is 02:45:01 The alternate route is a long one. But it'll get you to the same place. Congratulations to Stephen A. Smith and all you niggas out there getting a bag, running it up. I see y'all, I see y'all, salute to y'all. Mel, your questions. Well, when I was at the birthday dinner, you know, we kind of went around the table
Starting point is 02:45:21 and just said a bunch of nice shit and stuff like that, but we asked each other some questions. I was like, I'm going to bring that to the guys on the pod because I feel like it will make you kind of introspective, but also kind of allow yourself to congratulate yourself, whatever. So one of the questions was, what are you most proud of having happened this year so far? We're like halfway through the year, so the three questions were,
Starting point is 02:45:50 where do you see room for improvement? What are you most looking forward to this year? Or has it already happened? And what are you most proud of yourself for having done or completed this year? Three-part question. Yeah, kind of sort of, yeah. What are we most proud of? What are you most proud of? Where do you see room for improvement and what are you most
Starting point is 02:46:12 looking forward to or has it already happened and what was it? I'm most proud of, I'm probably most proud of my kids today. Like that's probably where, it's funny, I just had that talk with my dad this morning where he was like, yeah, man, I need to go make a run, but I was like, dad, you can go anywhere that you want in the world, like it's fine. I know you think it's, but you can pick anywhere in the world and just go, like I got you.
Starting point is 02:46:48 And he said, Joey, it ain't even about that. Like my joy today is for my kids. And one day you'll understand that. And I said to him, I'm already there, so I feel you. But just watching my sons gain understanding or lose understanding of the world and humans and people, that's probably what I'm most proud of where I could improve 10 11 years 12 years into this bottom thing I
Starting point is 02:47:11 could still learn when to shut the fuck up I'll take it out on you on a future episode. I will take it out on you on a future episode. These seven episodes down the line, niggas just come in firing. But no, on the playback, and we've been adding mics, it's been a rotating cast for the most part, and how you show up, how I show up, shouldn't be the same in each instance, and I'm still working on that, so I can improve in that. What was the final question? Where are you going? What are you most looking forward to?
Starting point is 02:47:51 Talk essay. Just know. You're gonna know. Actually, there will be signs. I can't say but there is something I'm pretty much looking forward to. Okay. Should be soon. Any day. Will everyone know what it is when it happens though? They'll be like, that's what you're talking about. Hey, Jeremy, hey. Ass up, fucking. There will be no denying what's going on in a couple seconds.
Starting point is 02:48:25 Oh, this is what? Oh, oh. No, no, no, no, no. I'm going to try to lie too. I am going to try to lie, but pay intuitive. Y'all just go. Flip, go ahead. What am I most proud of?
Starting point is 02:48:42 My family. Okay. My family is what I'm most proud of. How do they let you move around? What's the second one? Oh, that was the answer. Short answer. No, my family. My family is what I'm most proud of, man.
Starting point is 02:48:56 What do you need to improve? See, hold on. We can chill out now. Watching my daughter become the woman that she's growing up to be, that she doesn't let my behavior influence her thinking, just how she just thinks of her own and stands on her own and she's willing to check me on something just as a 15 year old turning 16 when she's like, oh daddy, you bugging. That means a lot to me.
Starting point is 02:49:20 Watching my son JR just be around me every step of the way even though he wants to live his life but just still making a sacrifice. Watch your mouth, he does have a choice. Still making a sacrifice that he makes. And just Nico being a badass kid that should remind me of myself. You know, Nico's bad. Yeah, watch your mouth.
Starting point is 02:49:36 He said pause to you. What was the second one now? Room for improvement. Room for improvement. Just being, listening more. Listening more, not thinking I'ma know it all. Willing to take advice. Being more willing to just get more understanding.
Starting point is 02:49:52 I mean, we protect what we create, but even with that protection, there is some flaws in the creation if you are in a bubble. A lot of times I'm in a bubble creating without having, you know, getting outside forces. So I really want to listen more. Yeah, he's right, because you don't listen to me.
Starting point is 02:50:08 And get comfortable. Well, I started to. Lil Wayne. I started to listen to you. I made some moves. Me and you had a talk last week. I made some moves. Soon as you had to talk with me about the studio, I made some moves. No, that's true. Yeah. Now, I'm talking to you. You do listen to me.
Starting point is 02:50:20 So, yeah, so I ain't not listening to you. I asked you not to have Imani come to know more of that shit. Oh, Imani down with me forever. I love Imani. I'm sorry. I'll fuck y', you do listen to me. I asked you not to have Imani come to no more of that shit. Imani down with me forever. I love Imani, I'm sorry. I'll fuck y'all two niggas up. I love Imani, nigga. What have I got to do with the keys?
Starting point is 02:50:31 You say you got Imani locked in? Yeah, and what's the third one? What are you most looking forward to? I'm looking forward into taking the flip of your view and what I'm doing just to the next level with JR. Just being the father and son duo and actually getting him on the camera to get me comfortable,
Starting point is 02:50:46 and put my family in front of the camera next. You know, when I turn 40, I just want to switch things up. So these next two years is very important to me when it comes to working. So I'm looking forward to where it's going. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:51:02 Shut the fuck up. Shut the, yo, that's financial abuse, yo. That's like financial, mental abuse, yo. Like, I be doing that shit in the JR. Yeah, right, yeah. Stability's important. Stability, right? Feel good.
Starting point is 02:51:16 Yeah, it's what you're doing. For this year? I said the year. Nah, cause she said, what are you proud of this year? So y'all took it a little bit. You know you don't like to get into your Fort Knox business. This year professionally, a couple acquisitions I made are dope, long term. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:51:44 You thought acquisitions going to change? What, 2000 dollars? Using that word acquisition. Woo! Yeah! That word got the doors. You got the yeehaw, nigga. Stop, man.
Starting point is 02:51:52 You bought a horse? This nigga's crazy. Little mergers and acquisitions. Ooh. Right? Little M&A. M&A. We gotta talk here, you know.
Starting point is 02:52:04 That's overdue. Leave alone. M&A? M&A. We gotta talk, man, you know. That's overdue. Leave alone. Improvement, I could get out of my own way with regards to some of that shit, like the ambitious shit or embarking on new shit, attempting new shit. I could get out of my own way with that. Kind of sabotage on some of the shit I could be getting into. Where I'm going, I just had some good meetings.
Starting point is 02:52:33 I think I'ma push it. Did you take off to heaven? Uh-uh. Okay. I gotta edit, because I see him. I see him, you trying to, yeah I mean. You can't say that to people. I gotta ask him. This guy's an idiot. No, I see him. You trying to, you know what I mean? You can't say that to people. I gotta ask him. This guy's an idiot.
Starting point is 02:52:46 No, I had some good meetings. I think some bigger development shit is on the horizon, so that's dope. And that's where I want to be in that lane. So I think that's dope, I think that's promising. Yeah, it was a good chat. Give us some advance notice, though. For what?
Starting point is 02:53:04 Before it pops off. I don't gotta go nowhere. let us know no, no, no, no, just like what you just did like couple days But I'm not gonna Both proud of, of course. Look at us bonding and shit. I wanna use the same answer. This is a hella Courtney savage. Yeah, that's why I ain't use the family shit. It's a hella Courtney savage. Yeah, it's a hella Courtney mushy male shit. But fuck it.
Starting point is 02:53:31 It's definitely years, potentially. So that's why I ain't do it. I am, but it is family for me. Y'all know that's, what you said, soft nail, whatever Paul did. Soft man. Soft man, whatever. Hey, my baby graduates next week, so.
Starting point is 02:53:48 I'm gonna be up there crying like a motherfucker. We got two of our kids graduate next week, so. Yeah, I'm proud of that. Like, getting them through the school year and smart as hell kid. How was school? Oh, shit, yeah. I'll tell it after this um
Starting point is 02:54:06 where I could improve is Have you all over the place no Where I could improve seriously Taking more initiative yo is I got a lot of opportunities that come right to me, and I just Because it means I'm gonna miss time from doing this or being there for my family or being here, I let shit slide. And again, it's back to that selfish shit.
Starting point is 02:54:33 Stop putting everybody else before me. I'm really trying to work on that. Listenin' to y'all, it sound like if y'all ambition level wasn't at a three, y'all would be outta here. I know for a fact. That's what it sounds like. Like I'm off, I'm bugging. Sound like y'all got a lot of opportunities
Starting point is 02:54:50 coming your way. Yeah, be careful. Oh, shit. You're joking. No, yeah, nigga. I'm talking shit. When you say out of here, you mean out of here or out of here?
Starting point is 02:55:00 No, nigga, not out of here. I meant out of here. Yeah. No, I of here. Nah, I'm here. But, what was it though? I was stupid. What are you most looking forward to? Right now?
Starting point is 02:55:12 Graduation next week, man. I'm sorry, I'm gonna be happy as shit about that, bro. That's fair. Jeremy and Parks, unfortunately, we're getting shorted for time, because we took so long. I don't even want to participate in this, really. I don't like to dwell on the past so I'm proud of everything that I do and everything.
Starting point is 02:55:29 I'm mostly proud of what my friends and family members are doing more so than my own personal accomplishments because I'm always going to work hard and that's kind of that. I'm proud of this skin care routine. This skin care routine my girls got me on. I'm like 10 days in. Feel like my shit's glowing a little. Just a little. I don't know how the cameras make it look. You look good.
Starting point is 02:55:50 Thank you, thank you. But no, I am extremely proud to be here today. I'm not just saying that because all you guys are here, obviously that helps, but I remember like seven, eight years ago, listening to the podcast on the way to an internship that I hated being like, this is what I look forward to every morning, every day and to be here, literally in the moment,
Starting point is 02:56:13 having a conversation, God is great. So I'm very proud of myself for the work you took. Thank you. That's a salute to us. All right. Salute to Gary. Nice work. Nice.
Starting point is 02:56:23 Yeah. And I could improve on being more, the same work that I do for others Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. And I could improve on being more, the same work that I do for others and the same energy I put into others, putting it into myself. I feel like I've helped build a lot of people up, a lot of companies up, a lot of brands up,
Starting point is 02:56:36 a lot of channels up, and I've done a lot for a lot of people. And when it comes to me, I always push it off. And I'm like, ah, you know, I don't need to do that for myself. That video can wait. My YouTube channel can wait. Whatever it may be for myself can wait. And so I think putting more energy into me.
Starting point is 02:56:52 And I know what you guys have done, what you've done, Joe, with your enterprise, your network is super inspiring. So more energy into me. And then, yeah, looking forward to whatever the rest of the year brings. Thank you, man. Make some noise for Jarrod. Thank you, guys. they just saw what I was doing and they said go. Because before that it was a lot of, stay over there, stay in your lane. You can do that little thing over there, but don't get too.
Starting point is 02:57:29 When, I don't care about that. When do you get to re-approach in the negotiations? So I'm technically on a work visa. I'm Canadian, as you know. So. I didn't know. I had no idea. Oh yeah, so I'm from Winnipeg, Canada actually.
Starting point is 02:57:44 Okay, get out of here. So they're helping me, you know, stay in the country and work. H1B? I'm on H1B right now currently, you know, yeah, you know. That was the one I was on. So, you know. I asked him about his work contract
Starting point is 02:57:59 and he's starting to tell me about his work visa. Cause he's small, he's small. He's small, he's smallocked. He's smocked, he's smocked. Hell, you killin' hell. Very thankful to be in the country right now. And you know, in the future, maybe there'll be some renegotiations, but right now I'm very happy.
Starting point is 02:58:14 Damn, hell, no, you gotta go get with Julien now. Hell, you bodied it. Oh, shit. Oh, man. You and Julien gotta. Get out there and that shit, boy, shut up. Stop. Jeremy and Julien, he did the reverse.
Starting point is 02:58:29 I did the reverse. Wait a second. I got immature. God, that's foolish. That's dope. All right, what else is important? What else needs our attention in here? Let's see, Timbaland signs an AI artist.
Starting point is 02:58:42 I don't know if y'all care about that. Let's talk about the Pacers. You don't say. You don't say. What? Shout out to the Pacers. No, I ain't coming to make jokes. All right, I ain't coming to make no jokes.
Starting point is 02:58:54 Listen. Shout out to the Pacers. Halliburton does it again. I left that game at halftime because I'm leaving prize picks in Atlanta, so I'm trying to get home. But the shock on my face when Keeb shows me the final score and the Pacers won.
Starting point is 02:59:13 In the first half, they had 19 turnovers. I think the line that I saw was 16 and a half for the game. They just didn't look the greatest in the first half, but the Thunder were never able to take off. It was always an 11 to 13, I think it ballooned to 15 at one point. But they were never able to take off. And as a Nick fan, I've seen that movie before.
Starting point is 02:59:34 So it was eerily similar to game one of the Knicks. As a Nick fan, I'm also validated that they went and did that to the Thunder. I don't know if Tibbs feels the same. I know he cursing somebody out right now. But shout to the Pacers. They've won game one in every series. So and the line was nine and a half.
Starting point is 02:59:57 People were expecting a Thunder blowout. But so congratulations to the Pacers. I want to start with that. Secondly, I think the NBA is. I want to start with that. Secondly, I think the NBA is doing a horrendous job with the finals. And that's outside of small market teams. How so? It's only been one game.
Starting point is 03:00:12 I don't care. I wouldn't give a fuck. No, explain. The finals is your final, right? So, I mean, if you old enough to remember the NBA on NBC and what they did for the finals, you would damn near see a monologue for each team and their journey to get to the finals.
Starting point is 03:00:29 They don't do that anymore. Fine. Maybe I was busy in prize picks. I didn't see player intros that resembled the finals. They didn't have NBA finals written on the fucking court like my entire life. That was special. That was special when we saw that.
Starting point is 03:00:49 I'm positive. And you know what? They didn't even have it on the jerseys. I'll take it a step further. They didn't put the Larry O'Brien trophy in the middle of center court like they started doing. It is inexcusable for playing games courts to look better than NBA finals courts. Yeah, I don't think there's an excuse for that. And Adam Silver's doing a horrific job with how the finals are being presented, how the finals are being covered.
Starting point is 03:01:16 They're not treating this like the creme de la creme of your sport. And I just think it's a mistake. That's outside of the small market shit. I get that you got your YouTube money, so maybe you don't really give a fuck but the finals is a big deal and if it ain't you should make it look like a big deal should look like a big deal that's that's what I got for that congratulations to the Pacers they've made this a series for the people that thought it wouldn't be one and I'm a believer Tyler Halliburton I mean Tyrese Halliburton
Starting point is 03:01:42 four for five on tying or go- baskets in the clutch in just this post season. None of us have ever seen anything like that. So I think it's time to get them some props and I'm here to do so. I told people from the RIP, I said that I did think OKC was going to take the series, but I didn't think it was going to be a layup for them. Like I think Indiana matches up pretty well with them outside of the bigs I think Indiana is just as quick as them They defend the bigs wasn't on the court for that final offensive possession for the Thunder you and I agree with that That was a mistake. Shea shot that shot. There was nobody on the rebound. No nothing. Yep. I think that um, I think that uh, Indiana is just as deep if not deeper
Starting point is 03:02:23 I think Indiana defends well and they shoot the three well. A lot of them could shoot the three. And that was the thing that I said, well. We got a little more grit too. Yeah, I said that the Thunder had some of that cavalier in them where they a young team. So you're going to expect them to resemble a young team at some point. With a superstar.
Starting point is 03:02:43 Yo, the Pacers had 25 turnovers. The Thunder had 11 points off of them. You're not gonna win like that. You're not gonna win like that. And the Pacers shot amazingly, and the Thunder didn't shoot well. So even though they were getting all these turnovers, they still were shooting a shitty percentage at the half.
Starting point is 03:03:00 Like they weren't up by amazing, you know what I mean? At the half, the game looked like it was a runaway, but it really, really, really wasn't. I think that coaching's gonna come into play in this series. More than I was. I think Carlisle did it again. Carlisle, he coached the fuck of a game. No, he's a monster.
Starting point is 03:03:17 In the timeout, he said, yo, you get the defensive rebound, I'm not calling the timeout, even though they had one. We just running this shit. And you see Halliburton begging for the ball, went to the right, got to a sweet spot, mid-range, hit the mini, got the bucket. I was watching that shit live, I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 03:03:33 I watched the whole shit live. I didn't turn, yo, I had to pee, I was just sitting there like, I'ma hold it, like this is some bullshit. They ain't not gonna do it again? Because at one point, it was just 10, 11, 10, 11. They couldn't break 10. You know what I'm saying? The fourth quarter point it was just 10, 11, 10, 11. They couldn't break 10. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:03:47 The fourth quarter it was just 10 points, 10 points, 10 points. They shot a three to cut it to seven. I was like, okay. They, it's something different now. So I think Indiana deserves all the kudos in the world. All the kudos in the world. I'm blaming the fucking stupid ass players in the league
Starting point is 03:04:01 for calling this nigga overrated. The most overrated player in the league. The most over the most overrated and when we gotta go see about the dude. No seriously it's something to be said about that after I order this stromboli let me play this. I thought you were looking at stats. I'm trying to time the food to get here at a certain time. No, let me play this clip because again, I enjoy Halliburton when he speaks and he finally got honest after they stole game one. And I like people talking about his voice keeps changing. I like that too. Where's my Halliburton clip?
Starting point is 03:04:41 Like to hear it, here you go. After you have a run like last year Then you get swept in Easter conference finals He's just keeping it a beam right conversation is about is how you don't belong there and how you lucked out to get there and That it was a fluke Guys are gonna be pissed off. We're gonna spend the summer pissed off and then you come into the year with all the talk around How was a fluke. You have an unsuccessful first couple months
Starting point is 03:05:08 and now that's easy for everybody to clown you and talk about you in a negative way. And as a group we take everything personal. Like as a group, it's not just me, it's everybody. You know, I feel like that's the DNA of this group and that's not just me, that's our coaching staff does a great job of making us aware of what's being said.
Starting point is 03:05:28 Us as players, we talk about it in the locker room. We talk about it on the plane. We're a young team, so we probably spend more time on social media than we should. But I just think we do a great job with taking things personal. And that gives this group more confidence. And we turned things around in January, which you guys know and
Starting point is 03:05:48 We just stuck with it Every every point She sounded great, right? He's absolutely right. You're right inspiring hearing him explain that like He's absolutely right. You're right inspiring hearing him explain that like Makes sense you totally get it. I like I like that. I like that also before I toss to my distinguished cast The fall off of Doris Burke as an announcer needs to be studied She's a goat though. She's um, come on dog
Starting point is 03:06:22 If y'all don't want to have to talk we don't have to have to talk Nah Nah, because I disagree. There's nobody that's a bigger Doris Burke fan than me. I love Doris Burke, yeah. She's been horrendous this offseason. I mean, nah, this playoffs. If you keep talking I'm going to find clips. She has been absolutely horrendous this offseason. I mean, that's this player. I've seen her a few times.
Starting point is 03:06:40 I don't know if I necessarily... Look, they made the announcement. Doris Burke not guaranteed to return to lead ESPN's top broadcasting team in 25-26. You don't fucking say, but hold up. She older. I ain't watching much of it. Um, here we go. Hold up. Oh, much of that.
Starting point is 03:06:58 And there's contact on the elbow. This is why he's called the free throw merchant. Every player in the league can do this. They lit up for that. This is from the Wol called the free throw merchant every player in the lead They lit up for that. This is from the wolves and thunder series That's not the one that way for here We go about history, but I know the French and German don't like one another and Rudy says bonjour Mr. Hartnestein have a little bit of that left-handed dump. What much about I was watching the game when she said And Rudy says bonjour, mr that left-handed dump. What? I was watching the game when she said that. The French and the Germans don't like each other. Mr. Hartstein, have a little bit of that left-handed.
Starting point is 03:07:30 Have a little bit of that left-handed. Let me tell you what the advertisers probably didn't want to hear while they were watching the final. Bonjour. The French and the Germans don't like each other. The Germans don't like each other. That's no picky. No it ain't. No it is not. I don't think that was horrible. It was a little corny
Starting point is 03:07:51 Particular will cost her her broadcasting job That one line and that presentation of a basketball play is gonna cost her entire job Are you crazy? You couldn't that is not how we present. What's so bad about that? It's horrendous basketball coverage We not then that man of these announcers be having some cringy fucking yeah, I go Roger Miller's been having cringy fucking Shit for 20 years do that that that's offended anybody Like do we need to get into fucking race wars now?
Starting point is 03:08:26 That's not race wars. In the basketball? Hey, let's see if she's back next year. I'm not debating it. But it might not be because of that, but... She has not been... This has not been her greatest display, is what I'm saying. That's possible.
Starting point is 03:08:37 I just love Doris Burke, but... Me too. She's replacing Mike Breen and Jeff Van Gundy. I know. They should have never fired Van Gundy, being cheap. Well, I'd like Jeff Van Gundy. I know, they should have never fired Van Gundy being cheap. Well, I'd like Jeff Van Gundy to be a next coach candidate. So I'm going to shut up. Anyway, back to y'all.
Starting point is 03:08:51 And y'all, what y'all thought about the game, the finals? I thought, to be honest with you, I think these NBA playoffs have been amazing. They really have. I think these NBA playoffs have been, you can see the parity in the teams. Usually it wasn't that many just runaway series with sweeps and shit even most of the the favorites lost to underdogs
Starting point is 03:09:15 Indiana was the underdog to Cleveland when you say the playoffs have been amazing I don't think that applies for the Western Conference. I can see how you say that on the East. I disagree. The Thunder got, they injured Ja Morant. So we had a Ja Morant-less first round. Okay. That Denver series was impeccable. Denver series went to seven, was amazing. They made quick work of the Wolves,
Starting point is 03:09:41 and now we'll see how this goes. But Wolves Clippers. Who did Clippers loss to? The Wolves, now we'll see how this goes. But Wolves Clippers. Who did Clippers lost to? The Wolves right? Yeah. Clippers lost to Denver. You are correct. Yeah, he's right. I think the Clippers were an amazing team in the Western Conference. I had them high up there it's just unfortunate they ran into a buzzsaw but I think the Clippers were good, I think the Wolves were good, I think in a bunch of these series there was just, it wasn't a block, you know what I mean? Like it wasn't a block. There's a reason to watch. Outside of the Lakers, and I'm a Laker fan, I didn't think the Lakers had the
Starting point is 03:10:19 chance of winning, but outside of that I thought that everybody played exceptionally well. And I think it was a bunch of close, close, close games. It was a few blowouts, but I think overall the series were- A lot of crazy comebacks. Yeah. I'm just gonna Pascal Siakam is getting the love he deserves. Former Raptor, he was getting shit on for a long time. They were saying he's overrated.
Starting point is 03:10:38 Highly underrated. They were saying he didn't develop enough, he's not a superstar. I blame the commentators for that too. Highly underrated. saying he didn't develop enough, he's not a superstar. I blame the commentators for that too. The commentators said that Siakam should be a first option, but he failed at that, so he needs to learn how to be a better second option right when they're about to play the next one.
Starting point is 03:10:57 What you saying? Say a word. Wait right here. All right. 42 on you. Like Mike said in the last dance, and then I took that personal. That was enough. That was enough.
Starting point is 03:11:08 So Yocum is ballin', I'm happy for Miles Turner. That Nim Hart cross dribble tween tween. No, no, no. Jab step. Back up, let me hit you with it again. Step back, her schwam. See, that's the problem with the Pigs. Nim Hart going to turn into Kyrie at the end of the game, and hit some shots that he just, it's like what the fuck?
Starting point is 03:11:27 What the fuck? On the man. After y'all got a little pushin' match going cause they both from Canada too. They both from Canada so it was one play where Nimhar fouled Shea and Shea pushed him. Nimhar walked to the foul line and pushed him back. He's going to shoot foul.
Starting point is 03:11:43 What the fuck you talking about? Also having nothing to do with basketball. That SGA post game, whatever he was wearing was tucked in, but you seen it still. It was a lot going on up under that shirt. I see. And he had the pearls going across.
Starting point is 03:11:59 He looked like somebody that's about to get- Okay, I'm starting to sound a little Beasley-ish. That's how you want, you want to dress like SGA, yo. I think if you had it, you want to dress like SGA. I think SGA is one of the best dressed players, at least. You want to be him, want to love. He looked like somebody that had 700 million a year in the future on his radar, which is what they're talking
Starting point is 03:12:18 about, rumored for his super max, eventually. He's a 10 on the ambition scale. He's sick. Halliburton is going pay for that that cute shit he did last night when SGA came back. Maybe something against the Knicks, too. I'm not counting the DL out. I'm not counting them out. Yo, he-
Starting point is 03:12:36 Not after what I saw last night. He and Jalen Brunson. That fourth quarter. We can't take none away from Jalen Brunson. The fourth? You'd be like, a motherfuckin' again? Halliburton is different than that fourth quarter we can't take none away from Jalen Brunson. Yeah fourth You'd be like again Halliburton is different in that fourth quarter. Yo Nick fans out there. I'ma say this in closing I know we still distraught over the Tim's firing
Starting point is 03:12:54 It's a lot of rumors going around and false misinformation being spread some of which says their Rick Brunson players are unhappy with Rick Brunson and that Rick Brunson players are unhappy with Rick Brunson and want him removed from the team. And some of your fans is pump, pump, pump, pumping that up. I'm here to tell you, grave mistake, grave, grave mistake, pumping that up to the best contract in the NBA. If he go to his son's bedroom and talk and then he demand a trade, everybody gonna be sick. Don't let a tear fall. Dog, what the fuck is wrong with these niggas? Y'all bark up that tree, that tree will fall on you. Yo, I just don't like the way they was treating me, son.
Starting point is 03:13:34 Rick Brunson, y'all want Rick Brunson removed. Nigga, all right, it's gonna be him and his fucking kid. Nigga. And I'ma come in here and read every point guard that has played for the Knicks in the last 25 years. And his son is college homies with the other three. They out of here, the college homies is out. What? For the back of Villanova, reclass. Yeah. And anyway, that's my sports report. I don't have anything else in sports. I got one thing
Starting point is 03:14:02 that it pains me to. Yeah, right. Welcome to Pittsburgh. Yeah, right. What? I don't have anything else in sports. I got one thing that it pains me to. Yeah, right. Welcome to Pittsburgh. Yeah, right, what? Yeah, I don't want that nigga there. I've been saying this from day one. You ain't want Mason Rudolph starting. Yeah. Fam, I don't want Aaron Rodgers.
Starting point is 03:14:16 I never, I told y'all last year. You did say that. I've been saying that. I remember that shit. It's the best option right now. I mean, outside of the customs maybe. Yeah, because of all the bullshit that y'all done to lead us up to this. It is the best option right now Bullshit that y'all done to lead us up to this it is the best option now you help yourself with no other one thing That nigga could do you can still sling the rocks a little that ball
Starting point is 03:14:33 I'll be curious Curious cuz he does things his way as we I'm really, really curious, because he does things his way, as we evidence right down the street, and Tomlin does not play that shit. If he's there in the 10th round of my fantasy, I'm getting him as a backup. 10th.
Starting point is 03:14:52 Because I think niggas will play with him and leave me. Yeah, about 10th. Oh yeah, quarterbacks go there. And if he's there, a backup quarterback position is very important in fantasy. Damn, this is. For when your starter want to act cute. Or go get hurt.
Starting point is 03:15:04 No, so when your backup want to turn up. Get crazy. Yeah, when your backup be fucking, what's my man from Minnesota? Kurt Cousins. Oh, you start getting Kurt Cousins as your number two and he start acting like a 1A. Sam Dorn will be doing that shit too. Talking about. He be going off on some backup shit.
Starting point is 03:15:21 That fucking Run Joe Flacco hat with Cleveland. Somebody was. He went crazy. He was lighting me up. Good waiver wire pick. That is our sports report. We have yet to delve into Trump and Ead Long. What do y'all think about the NBA All-Star game next year being USA versus the world instead of East West? I'm cheering for world. That's fire. I think that they needed to do something because everybody was fucking bored as shit with the All-Star game. Nobody cared. They tried everything else. They did. So now they got a tug on your pride. That's fucked up. Patriotism and shit. I just think, listen, I understand trying to come up with something new. So I respect that. I would be tired if we get cooked up. I don't think Adam Silver has watched the foreign players and during all-star weekend. That's true
Starting point is 03:16:11 Them foreign niggas with the exception of a few of them they don't give a fuck about all-star weekend. It's egregious Yokes might not show up. He's the main culprit second Luca I will never forget He's second. Oh, I see what you're saying. Luca, I will never forget. They passed him the ball from the inbound, and he shot that shit from the other team's pre-throw line.
Starting point is 03:16:31 See? There, there. He was there. He's saying it. And this is what I think. Oh, okay. Okay. I think their pride is going to come out.
Starting point is 03:16:39 I think they're probably going to come out. Wim Benyana. I think their Shay, Luca, and B. Well, not and B. If he's got too many. Players with pride better outnumber the dudes that don't give a fuck. Because none of the American niggas like the attention that the foreign niggas begin. And I think it's gonna be a personal game. I think it's gonna be personal. I think it's gonna be personal. The only thing I don't like about this is with this format, you're announcing that you're robbing some people
Starting point is 03:17:09 of their All-Star spots. Yeah, okay. How? Because you have to fulfill a world roster. So any USA roster. So people that might, but people that might not have made the world roster will make it just to fill up a team? Yep. Maybe. The USA not so much, but the world roster. make it just to fill up a team? Yep. Maybe.
Starting point is 03:17:25 The USA not so much, but the world roster. Cause it's not enough. I think both sides. Both sides. The USA got all the old niggas. Yeah. And you, shit. Fans be picking up shit, the old niggas be making it.
Starting point is 03:17:35 Fans just pick the starters. I like it. I'm also interested to see how inside the NBA looks on ESPN without them having NBA rights to games. What does that look like without y'all being able to show me the game? So we'll see about that. They'll be potted basically. ESPN not having the rights to games just sounds funny. Whatever we'll see. We do have to cover Elon and Trump for a second.
Starting point is 03:18:05 I know you guys want to go enjoy your Friday nights, but we got at least another nine hours in this business. 17. At least another nine. Especially these niggas got opportunities that might change their life coming. Yeah, you should. I need nine more hours out of y'all before some deal gets signed. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:18:24 Do y'all care? Hello. New York here, hello. Trump and Elon, man. The bromance fell apart. In the messiest way possible. Yeah. They said this is the Drake and Kendrick beef for Republicans. Yeah, I like that.
Starting point is 03:18:38 Yesterday on Twitter, I saw people going crazy. That's funny. Back and forth. That's funny. Because half of the party kinda did. Pick a side. They picked a side I think I think this is more telling. I think that a lot of Republicans really don't fuck with Donald Trump. Like I think they really don't fuck with Donald Trump and they just been too scared to come public with
Starting point is 03:18:57 it. Agreed. That's been literally for a while. Yeah, they don't fuck with him. And I think that Elon is right. I think the Elon fanboys helped him win the election this year and possibly some other things. And some money, and some money, and. And $280 million. You know what I mean? I think that, I think, I think Elon,
Starting point is 03:19:16 I mean, Elon, pardon me, did get a little big in his britches. And forgot that he was talking to a narcissistic motherfucker in Donald Trump that you not going to just come come in here just keep publicly big bro with me I don't think that's gonna keep happy. I'd like y'all to break this down for me and like I'm a kindergartner but I agree with that tenfold at least for a year and now at least for six months Elon has seemed to be getting too big for his britches as it pertained to Trump. Man they was running around saying that he was the one running the country for real. They were.
Starting point is 03:19:47 Because it looked like that. It did look like that, yeah. Bro, I'm in the Oval Office. What? With some sweatpants. He ain't having no sweatpants, but fam, nobody comes in the Oval Office dressed down like they go on a dinner.
Starting point is 03:19:59 Like, yo, you in there with your kid, your kid telling the president shut up publicly Elon set this off with the debt they win or the debt plan said that the bill that they just passed the bill that they just Passed was trash a lot of people are saying the bill that they just beautiful bill Pertaining to everything So the budget shit a lot of the budget shit so so Elon came forward and said, yo, Doug, not for nothing, no disrespect, this bill is trash. This bill is gonna add, they're saying, way more money to our deficit.
Starting point is 03:20:33 Donald Trump and them said it's not. Public people that are in support of Donald Trump have come out against the bill. Kevin O'Leary, who's Donald Trump's man from Shark Tank, Mr. Wonderful, he said this bill is horrible for all small businesses. He said basically 62% of small businesses are the driving force to our economy.
Starting point is 03:20:52 You shittin' on them. So he's like, yo dog, my people gonna be callin' me, like yo, what the fuck is goin' on? So Donald Trump and them of course said, no it's not. It's helping small businesses. The tax cuts to the 1% are enormous again. They're saying that it's some future shit that's going on where people that are making under $30,000 a year
Starting point is 03:21:12 are going to get hammered in taxes. Like if you already at under 30 grand, no disrespect to nobody out there, like yo fam, you can't afford no more tax hits. You know what I'm saying? So it just, and so the motherfuckers that are being truthful saying yo, this is some bullshit. I have a brief summation from like New York Times.
Starting point is 03:21:29 I'd love to hear it. All right, here we go. Hold on a shit. Rewind. Come on. You've been killing since that whole Take Fridays on things. Okay, shut the fuck up. Never seen anything quite like this.
Starting point is 03:21:44 Elon and I had a great relationship. I don't know if we're well anymore. So last week, Elon Musk left government. It was the end of his tenure as a special government employee. He got this nice press conference with Donald Trump in the Oval Office. Thank you, Elon. Thank you. Take care.
Starting point is 03:22:00 But behind the scenes, it didn't seem that everything was going well. Over the weekend, President Trump removed the nomination of a key Musk ally from the head of NASA. And throughout this week, Elon Musk has been posting about this supposed big, beautiful bill that Donald Trump has been trying to push through Congress. And he's expressed his worry about this bill adding to the federal deficit and increasing the federal debt. And on Thursday, it became a little bit different.
Starting point is 03:22:26 Donald Trump addressed that kind of rhetoric. He knew every aspect of this bill. He knew it better than almost anybody. That's what I was wondering. It caused the war to explode online. Musk unloaded his full clip on Donald Trump, accusing him of being associated with Jeffrey Epstein. He talked about how Trump's tariffs were gonna be bad for the economy and lead us to recession. I don't think we've ever seen someone at this level
Starting point is 03:22:49 fall out with Donald Trump. You know, in some ways Elon Musk is his equal. Someone who is incredibly wealthy and someone who has taken credit for a lot of Trump's win. Both men are known for- Are you getting his opinion now? All right, we don't win. I don't see them as equal.
Starting point is 03:23:06 Why? Elon Musk is way richer than Donald Trump. Well, richer, but power. Powerful. Power, influence. Power means a lot. Yeah, it does. I'm thinking on the power tip.
Starting point is 03:23:16 But with wealth comes power, so. But Elon basically said in his tweets, he was just like, I got this motherfucker elected. Like, I did. Thank you for your service. Yeah. He's like. You so rich and wealthy and intuitive.
Starting point is 03:23:31 And you ain't doing me a favor. I'm waiting for him to say that they rigged the election. Well, I think he's all but said it. Donald Trump is just a New York nigga. That's it. He's more than that. What I mean is that, we'll let you feel like you got, you inside and we all cool
Starting point is 03:23:45 and chummy chummy and it's all great and it's all good. But in the back of my mind, I'm watching you and I have a plan just in case you get a little bit too comfortable. I would agree. And that's what Donald, he played possum. Trump played possum, made Elon Musk get extremely comfortable and then wham and showed him that. Because he'd been saying things in the beginning. Elon Musk tried to run against me,
Starting point is 03:24:06 but you know, he's not even from this country. He's been saying things and he got quiet. So then Trump just showed him, man, never, you know, I could play possum better than anybody you know. I got 50 years dealing in the swamps, nigga down with the mafia, from the mafia to the thugs. Like yo dog, I've been with them. I've been with them.
Starting point is 03:24:24 You just a wealthy dude that's a genius. You're a genius and you're a goof. So when we need the money and when we need the tools and the assets and resources, then we'll call you. But other than that, nah. Trump's narcissism is one of my favorite reality shows because I can bank on him doing something to act like he fly with Pence for the rumors to go around, yo when Pence take over, yada yada yada, and then Big T saying nigga, never the case, you done. So he does
Starting point is 03:25:01 this. So when him and Elon Musk was acting like friendly, friendly, friendly, and Elon Musk didn't see it coming, I was like, oh, this is happening. Yeah, he didn't see it coming at all. He was none the wiser. I don't think so. And I think the relationship was mutually beneficial. Like, honestly speaking, you can't say Donald Trump was no corny nigga in the 80s.
Starting point is 03:25:19 He wasn't no corny nigga, son. He kinda was him. He was corny. No, he wasn't. He was was corny. No he wasn't. He was not corny. I don't wanna defend him. I mean, I'm just being honest. Donald Trump was, in 80s, 90s Donald Trump was him.
Starting point is 03:25:34 He was running around here, playboy nigger like Iron Man or some shit, you know what I'm saying? And then his other views started to cloud. Honestly, if he never runs for president of the United States, he continues on that trajectory of being one of the cool whites, unfortunately. Maybe true. No, I'm just saying, because a bunch of that shit would
Starting point is 03:25:53 have never come out publicly that he did. When he started running for, then people started going to search and find some of the little racially motivated shit that he was doing. But Donald Trump was a cool ass white dude running around billionaire messing with all the baddies back when we was coming up. If I have to pick between which evil I like more,
Starting point is 03:26:16 I'm picking Trump over Elon Musk. Sorry buddy, I am. Sorry, it sounds bad. No, don't. I'm with you. I'm not fucking with them fucking doofy ass Elon Musk. And I don't fuck with Trump, but Elon Musk. Yo, so it's funny.
Starting point is 03:26:30 So he says, yo, I'm about to drop the big bomb. I think that was a mistake. If this is your big bomb, I don't think it went the way you planned. Yo, Trump is on the Epstein tapes. We don't know. And we like, well, we knew that. We knew that.
Starting point is 03:26:42 But why you didn't know that? He did. No, you knew that too. Oh no, you did know that. And you was. But why you didn't know that? He did. No, you knew that too. Oh no, you did know that. Oh, so you was cool with it. And you didn't say nothing. You didn't tell y'all start beefing. Exactly.
Starting point is 03:26:50 Yeah, and if you did, why did you keep working? Farms people's question. Your man came out, the King Goof. Who? Kanye. Oh yeah. Oh, I'm not even doing that. No, bros, please stop fighting.
Starting point is 03:27:02 We love both of you guys so much. Man. Yeah, but he sucked a lot of dick. No, bros, please stop fighting. Man. Yeah, but he sucked a lot of dick. Yo, what the fuck is wrong with you? Because, what? Literally, you can't say that. He did, don't tell me what he said. He did suck a lot of dick.
Starting point is 03:27:16 I'm not telling him what he said. No, you can say whatever you want. It's his cousin, his uncle and some shit. You can't suck your fucking uncle dick and then chime in when the president is gone. Your cousin, you can't do that. Because now it looks like you're rushing to suck another dick. Mind your fucking business. You're not a politician.
Starting point is 03:27:32 We're not checking the album. You lost the Gap deal. Sit down. Enough of you. You lost Amber. Nigga, move. Move. It's over. You lost the white girl. Move. We don't want to hear that right now. We want to see the Titans. It's a big fight. Here You come making it about you. You are a different class of narcissist You got a move wait for a second. We've been waiting for this for a while. Sorry Kanye. It's not about you right now
Starting point is 03:27:56 How does this end like what is what is a possible result of this. Nothing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 03:28:19 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, shit, you start pulling my money, we gonna start beefing a little bit. You might have made some promises to me that I need you to follow through on, and now that you out, this is all speculative, now that you out here fucking with the motherfuckers in UAE and you got some other heavy hitter money niggas behind you, you don't necessarily gotta sit down
Starting point is 03:28:42 and kiss my ass no more. you, you don't necessarily got to sit down and kiss my ass no more. Trump said the easiest way to save money in our budget billions and billions of dollars is to terminate Elon's government subsidies and contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it. Then he went on to say, hold on, what is this shit? Big bank politics, what? Yeah. He says I don't mind Elon turning against me, but he should have done so months ago. This is one of the greatest bills
Starting point is 03:29:11 ever presented to Congress. It's a record cut in expenses, $1.6 trillion, and the biggest tax cut ever. Nigga, please. If this bill doesn't pass, there will be a 68% tax increase and things far worse than that. I didn't create this mess, I'm just here to fix it. This puts our country on a path of greatness.
Starting point is 03:29:31 Make America great again. So, so great. So, so great. The bill is so, so beautiful. You have no idea. Fuck outta here. Oh man, that's your man. It's your cousin.
Starting point is 03:29:44 Think somebody ain't here voting for Big T, man. Not I. Not I. No. Me neither. He can't vote. I can't vote. I'm just happy to be in the country.
Starting point is 03:29:53 Thank you. To whoever makes that happen. Thank you, Ali. Yeah. Oh man. Are we done? Are we done with this? I mean, yeah, we done.
Starting point is 03:30:03 Until Mark gets back, I don't care about this shit. Yeah, I mean, I don't care. What else needs our attention? This has been rather long. Let me see. Shout out to friend of the show, A Marie, her tiny desk episode released yesterday. I didn't see it yet.
Starting point is 03:30:20 I didn't see it yet, neither. I haven't seen it yet. But it's been buzzing online, huh? I don't know. I don't know. I'm asking y'all because I Don't do that. We said off mic. I know you're not talking about the shit. We say off mic I'm saying are you questioning are you calling back to things that we said off mic? Yes Got it He does it all the time He does it all the time. He does it all the time. More rats.
Starting point is 03:30:47 Hey. More rats. More rats. That's the fucking lutely. And more rats. Absolutely, yep. I see the chatter out there. A. Marie is too great to me
Starting point is 03:30:57 and has been too great to me for me to participate. To us. Congratulations to A. Marie. That's right, congratulations. She sat here and told us how much she was looking forward to her tiny desk. And let the legends fucking get warmed up. Get back in their bag. It's been a while. It's been a while. But is it possible that people who
Starting point is 03:31:15 listen to it just don't have an appreciation for Gogo? Okay, now we... Okay. I feel like we should play a little bit of it because she's...we've listened to the music that she's been releasing and she sounds incredible. I'll play a little bit. Yeah, whatever. You gotta go from the tiny desk to the big desk. Little steps. If y'all buy me a little bit of time.
Starting point is 03:31:38 I threw your name in it. Hey, yo, hold on, you know they called your man name at the trial. Ooh. They called your man name at the trial. Oh. ["Fallin' Love"] Who was that? Fallin' love. Yep, yep. One of the greatest songs ever made. Shout out to friend of the show, Amaree.
Starting point is 03:32:00 We love you. I'm looking forward to some more performances. Sometimes when you come straight off a flight and go straight to business, sometimes you gotta rest beforehand. It's hard. Yeah. Let's go, A. Shut up, Cory. I love it. I love it. Oh, I love this song. I love this song. I love this song.
Starting point is 03:32:25 I love this song. I love this song. I love this song. I love this song. I love this song. I love this song. I love this song. I love this song.
Starting point is 03:32:33 I love this song. I love this song. I love this song. I love this song. I love this song. I love this song. I love this song. I love this song.
Starting point is 03:32:41 I love this song. I love this song. I love this song. I love this song. I love this song. I love this song. I love this song. I love the song. There's some fluctuations happening there. What's your fire? Was there a mic cutting out? It could could have been it probably was a mic malfunction I guess folks performance I've had to honor here. I think it was probably the my I'm blaming the mic great the mic I got a back up dance. I'm loving anybody before I gotta watch that back because
Starting point is 03:33:38 hers and baby face Fuck y'all fans. They always talking shit We are tiny desk I'm in Super Music. I'm in Super Music, no doubt. Yeah, fuck y'all fans. They always talking shit, shut up. Yeah, they always got something to say. We all Tiny Desk gang. Let's see here, we don't need to get into Timbaland right now. We can get the fuck out of here. Yeah. We can get out of here. I think I am going with,
Starting point is 03:34:02 next week is a good week in music for me. Y'all hate me up with all this Lil Wayne shit but I knew this week was a deuce, a deuce snooze fest. Next week I think there's Ty Dolla Sign project. There's another album next week that's fun. I'll tell you later. I'm going with Ty Dolla Sign off that Tycoon project. This record is called All In. Do you mind if I sport you, baby? Cause I want you. Tell me do you mind if I show you some love? Anything with the Loomy D beat is a win for me.
Starting point is 03:34:36 And Wayne Wonder. Oh. You say that I'm costalized. If you be did I hate money from the back or the front now baby? Do you mind if I pound it, I'll submission me Do you mind, I make you mine, don't give it away Beat it up by the hard and price I could throw it deep in the end zone
Starting point is 03:35:09 Put a baddie in the friendzone I give you the keys to the curve, oh Summertime come, I change clothes And I just wanna know, do you buy? Do you buy? Do you mind if I sport you, you, baby? You my do you And if it did I'd come running That's the one I need She's a beauty Very special And even truly
Starting point is 03:35:53 Take a look at me Life is for beauty I go ride my monster Night and day No I don't care what it costs My monster, my baby Here we go, baby No, I don't care what it costs, we know the prices Should he give what you want, just put it in the cart, yeah Shot this beat, soft on me, put your money away Treat every girl like it's her birthday
Starting point is 03:36:23 Do you mind if I spoil you, baby? Cause I want you Tell me do you mind if I show you something? Cause I can't take it Wish I let out pasta day If you need it I can find it Like a bunny Brand new music from Ty Dolla Sign That record is called All In off his Tycoon album
Starting point is 03:36:51 That should be in your phones next week Shout out to Ty man, can't wait Good shit, good shit I've been playing this Banks album Over and over Came out a couple weeks ago And I'm gonna go back to that So So my sleeper is if I wake up Lloyd Banks
Starting point is 03:37:09 Whoa, hello Hello Hey when you're not in there On a matters when no one's lookin' And can you look in the mirror? Can't be biased when you're critiquin' Just cause someone's familiar Poverty's a shortness of breath
Starting point is 03:37:31 For Benjamin's dead inhaler You got money to spread around here Things only get realer The minute you brush niggas away They start paintin' the wicked picture You think sober and it make me feel better I'm gettin' sicker Nigga, money and flicks don't mix
Starting point is 03:37:42 Like different liquor, blicker Don't let me die As words of a victim's whisper I wasn't always a winner, who knocked me down with a loss Got addicted to lavish living, got me back on my course, just be original Can you picture a copycat with a torch, God in the physical Hard-hitting, rocky pack to endorse? Deadliest writer, he ain't filthy in my survival plan Any event I die, bring a nigga back with a hologram
Starting point is 03:38:03 The drama land, I'm in limited edition monogram Don't let them cause separation more than the comic can I woke up today I won, I should have been dead Look at what I've become, I see your spin sheds fixing me where you from Investing me with your gun, struggle and sacrifices just to be number one I see tomorrow, I'm blessed, niggas that ain't here wishing they could be stressed So you're from Tennessee, living peace was a stretch I'm blessed, niggas that ain't here wishin' they could be stressed Some firms ain't feelin' the peace, so just stretch I'ma leave violence and sex, ain't no armor and thieves
Starting point is 03:38:29 They gon' tune, they never appreciate the door Until they know that it's shut, can't know my distance from it Even when the world opens up, the less fortunate is another individual's luck Snitches get stitches, nigga, the son of a ritual cut Respect nothin' more than what's honest, know what you tell me the truth You wanna change history, don't you? They can bury the proof, Lip out the noose, a stained up nigga in the face of whoever
Starting point is 03:38:49 Got two pair of eyes, look at Abby, gotta raise em up better Buying everything I wrote off, you gotta pay me forever Hating coming back from your shady endeavors, can't spend a day being jealous Hanging up all this war jewelry, hard to remove the victor None of this scripted perspective coming from newer scripture I moved the ritual with new elixir to tool a fixture Two crucifixes, why follow? Don't think the shoes you fit ya You losing nigga, good picks and make the illusion bigger
Starting point is 03:39:12 In the blink of a eye there's heat on you No room to shiver, now I woke up today I won I should've been dead, look at what I've become I see those new sheds mixing me where you from Busting me with your gun, struggling sacrifices Just to be number one If I see tomorrow I'm blessed Niggas that ain't here wishin' they could be stressed
Starting point is 03:39:30 Sometimes I ain't feared, lookin' peaceful's a stretch I'ma leave violence and sex, ain't no honor and thieves They don't true me next Know I made mistakes cause shit ain't go according to plan Maybe I was right all along, and it was all in God's hands Classic composers, therapeutic, thank the Lord for my fans Knew I would make it the same day Niggas told me I can't Get you the spot to see me climb Mark all my names in the tower All praise to the throne above me
Starting point is 03:39:51 He didn't gave me the power Cut communication of lady I need all of my hours living long The hope in the conscience shakes the wrong essence out us By that time they give me your flowers Leave me dead with no color Got no problem getting my fate wrong Cause it's not my my brother You know when I'm driving any day I could get stopped for my color You'll never understand the trauma if you're not from the gutter I was told it's 187s when a cop on the cover People will lose their whole identity for a popular summer
Starting point is 03:40:15 Sometimes everybody won't make it I'm not gonna wonder I knew niggas selling their soul every day McWhorter's come, when I woke up today I won I should've been dead, look at what I've become I see those things, says mix it be where you're from Best to be with your gun, struggle and sacrifices Just to be number one, if I see tomorrow I'm blessed Niggas that ain't here, wishing they could be stressed
Starting point is 03:40:36 Sometimes it ain't fair, looking beast was a stretch I'm gonna leave violence and sex, ain't no honor in thieves I'm gonna tune in next That's all this new project? You are my thieves, you're too next little it's a different style of rap this is bruiser wolf and fat ray fancy you'll get there busting her face twice the same life game women's I mean my rain pop My rain pop They tell a man like damn it's the same guy It's the same guy Swim or drown Brown coaching
Starting point is 03:41:27 I'm the AI I was stuck in the same place like a hostage or a statue My life was born downhill I was facing an uphill battle I'm trying to better my wealth Tell my better man how I'm doing I ask my rookie what's the odds If I battle myself
Starting point is 03:41:38 If I battle myself My past is dark Gotham Gotham dead Everything I say sound good It's melodic Sippin' on gin tonic Talkin talking, blowing clouds that look like pow in a comic
Starting point is 03:41:50 Her legs spread just like gossip, I give her dick, I ain't kill a pussy but it pop a drip Like the grandpa of Adonis All these potlucks, I need a demonic, zero trick Three sixes, you think I'm demonic I was hooked on chronic when y'all was hooked on phonics But y'all can dial him on a loose leaf, got me a groupie They sit out the sand with Puff and Ria Coogee Cause I'm doing big things, I'm doing big things Hopping on tracks, leading shit stains Bruiser Wolf, cooler than a nickname The crew rich, playing shit change
Starting point is 03:42:33 Bruiser, ha ha ha ha ha Roll up the cigar, repertoire used by me The FAT, if you're seeing what I'm seeing We can make a killing and stack it to the ceiling Bru, the FNN been copped This butter out the zip lock at the pit stop Competition gon' block Resistance, I'ma go the distance It's a hit, me and Wu back lit Bet the gang beat yo' ass if you sneak it
Starting point is 03:42:57 Let a nigga hit yo' new shit, they gon' leak it The industry the weakest, see me Be that is, all that is You is, ER er I see your squares don't you know my nigga Danny fucking fed they kids fuck your podcast it ain't fucking with his that's how it is this shit is brewed up fuck a freak bitch they're getting flued out you feel the ball feeling like I'm in snowfall all y'all living for likes and follows all my bullets hollow my bitch gon swallow
Starting point is 03:43:24 happily not download the app for free and follows On my bullet-tolo, my bitch gon' swallow Happily, now download the app for free And spark the tree with some heat Yeah, I can see why your brain would go there. Yeah, I'll like, is this like a spoof of sugar? You would probably actually really like the album. Oh, I'm going to check this shit out. Yeah, you would probably really like this shit. You know I'm going to check this shit out. It's Detroit shit, player shit, you would like this shit. Anyway, Bruiser Roll, Fancy.
Starting point is 03:43:56 Got you. Check out the album now. I was going to play this last week, but uh. You going to play that record? You going to play that last week? I don't know Bruiser. Oh, that's your man. I don't know him, I'm going to get familiar though. You familiar to play that last week? I don't know. I don't know Bruiser. Oh, that's your man. I don't know him. I'm going to get familiar though.
Starting point is 03:44:08 You familiar with Bruiser? No I don't. I said I'm going to get familiar. And The Punisher? I see. Promo. I'm going to Leigh-I-Thomas. Yo, song is party favorite. That's my shit right here Yo
Starting point is 03:44:45 Yeah, I might get low, on the two, yeah, hi-8s Mary and Betty, whose homies get blamed Who keys are my cars, and turns up our paintings And spend hella cash, like she the one who made it Then tells me she's sorry and fucks me like she really means it I let her drive the Bentley once and told her she could keep it She be keepin' secrets, that is not a secret But you know what they say sometimes Yeah, yeah, she better keep it, she better keep it
Starting point is 03:45:14 But now all she wants is party Pain by this party, pain by this party Pain by this party, pain by this party Favourites, Favourites, Favourites, Favourites Some of them don't ask for favourites, I'll do it to them Favourites, Favourites, Favourites, Favourites All the favourites that I'm doing, you know it's all for my favourite Girl, you high everything, not just high maintenance High class and you showin' up high, high heels, boots high
Starting point is 03:45:49 Then Mary J Blige, and the worst part about it is You barely say hi, even if they confidence is up to the sky Knowing that you just a magnify eyes It's a shame your high horse don't got a passenger side You the prize, if it's ride or die then I'm still alive been popping prescriptions that was never prescribed got you giving descriptions that you can't even describe if you her enemy no kumbaya's so I'll coupe the grass
Starting point is 03:46:14 walk around this bitch like my shoes untied this bitch so bad that she looks sexy in a suit and tie fuck her once you too alive break her heart and suicide she gon' pop up with a rich' nigga, don't be too surprised But I swear that you my favorite Both catchin' feelings, damn, my guess is contagious And I'm just a mutt focused on the paper How you think I could afford on your party, friend?
Starting point is 03:46:35 It's goddamn famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous
Starting point is 03:46:43 Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous Famous, famous, famous, famous, famous Fam, Favors, Favors For someone who don't ask for favors, I'll do it to any favor Favors, Favors, Favors, Favors As Leon Thomas and Big Sean, party favors Sean ripped that too Eba, I'm so glad someone brought that Andre flow back that no one ever touched again. Yeah that was that was a fire verse. Big Mal. Mine is Caitranada featuring Lucky Day it's called Look Easy. I'm hotter than the wild I do I feel, I'm not my feeling anymore
Starting point is 03:47:28 You know, you know Stay with me I am, I am, I am, I am, I am You feel me, can't ignore it You know, you know You know I'm sick and dazed I stay, I stay cold I'll let you know, like it's gonna close
Starting point is 03:47:50 You'll see I'm ready to make a move Just playin', winnin' like I make the rules, yeah We make it look easy So make it look easy Make it look easy We make it look easy, she make it look easy I feel him staring from across the room He's got it all, I just let them assume You couldn't beat me if you wanted to Your yesterday's a bitch and I'm the new Make it look easy She make it look easy
Starting point is 03:48:56 Make it look easy Make it look easy Make it look easy She make it look easy Make it look easy, she make it look easy, she make it look easy A lot of things I do, I do I got my feeling, boy Yeah, still you feel it Light, light, light, light, light
Starting point is 03:49:21 Feeling it, baby, light Oh, fire, fire, feeling pretty dark I'm moving, yeah Still feeling fire Hey, it's K.Tranada, the lucky day, look easy I see you repping for the Canadian, man There you go K.Tranada, Canadian K.Tranada's Canadian. Caitranada is Canadian?
Starting point is 03:49:45 Yeah. And it was fire. And gay. It's promo. That's what you were saying, okay. Y'all always think, y'all gotta stop talking. Caitranada and Lucky Day, I stepped away with that. It was fire.
Starting point is 03:50:01 It was fire. That sounds fire. That was cute. A little summertime vibe almost the hers you know the lucky day in her joint with a fun is her I wish you hurry oh no I don't want you ever take your time I ain't rushing greatness when she come it's gonna be and we're supposed to be she talking very start she we should get something new from her she got the single her probably waiting to step on summer
Starting point is 03:50:40 Her better be aware of when summer would like to drop she don't have to yes you do why no she don't they different A little bit about two albums. They're different away demos levels. I don't know how different the demos are What do you think the demos are I think a little bit more? earthy Earthy and like appeals to adults a little bit more. I think summer's a little bit more man her got the secret earthy holes summer got the overt earthy. Okay, I'm saying I this is different. That's different. I'm just talking to you in
Starting point is 03:51:17 the pot. I think that summer will probably break three hundred thousand units week one and who ever it yes and keep going. Yes and her what she do last time. I think she was close last time. Well, she I think, but we can look it up and I say a lot and I think that any I think you need to be aware of anybody that can do three hundred week one. Why would anybody have to? Why do they have to choose? Yeah, that's what I'm sorry. do nothing near that I remember her to be in hell. She did a hundred and sixty six. Yeah
Starting point is 03:51:49 166 be where'd I get three hundred? Her her didn't do 300. This was hella low. Oh her was mad low cuz that was a topic here for a while. Yeah She might have did like 50,000 or something like that. It was low. Okay. Well I can see summer breaking 250 then let me bring it down She you think she's hotter now that she was going into the last album I don't think I don't I don't think that her album sales week one will be predicated on heat I think summer is out of the I gotta be hot to say I think once you start talking to anything over 200 it's predicated on heat I think once you start talking to anything over 200, it's predicated on heat.
Starting point is 03:52:25 No, I thought Jeezy could have did 250 when his heat was going up. I'm taking it to ancient dinosaur time. Yeah, that's a whole different. Yeah, I think Summer could do 250. I think honestly, if you're talking to anything over 150, it gotta have some heat. I think 150, 150 for Summer.
Starting point is 03:52:41 So you think she goes down? Yeah, I think she does too. Oh, y'all got some more fucked up. I love some of her. I just don't think she, I think she's been quiet. Don't worry. She will learn you. This is like that Wayne and his prime thing.
Starting point is 03:52:54 Y'all doing it again? You know, hey. Hey, before we leave, can y'all stand on, just stand on the fact that you said it. And now shut up. I didn't say he was in his prime. I said he is plateaued but. I don't worry.
Starting point is 03:53:08 But the plateau you gotta still be at your prime level, right? Like you go up and then level off. Because the argument was peak versus plateau. I think he was spitting. I think he still raps extremely well. Yeah, I think he was spitting. I just think that his production,
Starting point is 03:53:21 which you're right, falls on him. I think Wayne can still put out an album on the level of those other albums that we love him for, but he needs the right team. He has the talent to still do it. There's artists that don't have that talent anymore no matter what team you put them with and I don't put Wayne in that category. I agree with what he's saying. The niggas that make their cereal with the milk first. I don't know any of those people
Starting point is 03:54:01 No freeze we he in the soft guy, so he warmed the milk up. I believe that. He warmed the milk in the microwave. Put some honey in it. Yeah. You're a heathen, yo. Freeze, you a freak. Is it bad for men to have like a soft,
Starting point is 03:54:13 is this soft guy era for men? Yes, nigga, now. Freeze, nigga, right now. I'm in it too. Freeze is in it. Oh, yeah. I just love my family, I just want to chill home. That's it.
Starting point is 03:54:23 I don't care about the world. Yo, my girl's talking to me so rough the other day, I just love my family. I just want to chill home. I don't care about the world My girl talking to me so rough the other day. I just was like Rough as in message your tone tone. Oh Because you know your foot ain't healed all the way My mouth is a whole boy. We can see, we can see, Tungie. We can see. Look, I'm just like, yo.
Starting point is 03:54:49 You got it. The old me. I want you to let her have it. I want to be in my soft guy era. My wife too, nigga. She was talking. You're in your soft guy era for sure. No, he's not.
Starting point is 03:54:59 But you got the shorts on. Maybe soft. Maybe, yeah, right. Salmon. Salmon. Salmon. You got to put the L in there. Lululemon is in the soft guy era. Maybe soft guy, soft era means something different
Starting point is 03:55:12 for men than it does for women. Oh, it does, for sure. Yeah, it gotta mean something different. So what does it mean for men then? Less gardening. For women it means like you letting the man take control, you don't want nothing to do with that. For the man you just want to be pampered and taken care of.
Starting point is 03:55:27 That's what the women, that's it right? Women just want to be aloof and not worry about nothing and be led by a man strong enough to where they're able to be their soft self and not have to wear the hardcore exterior that they present with. I think for men it just means not fucking, Not doing too much.
Starting point is 03:55:46 Grinding your hands to the nubs. For men it's just being rich. Just relax. Well, I guess that's a way to put it. It leads to it though. If you rich, then I guess, okay. That's a damn shame. That's a damn shame.
Starting point is 03:56:00 That's a damn shame. That's crazy. That is kind of, that's disgusting. I guess it also could be if you find a sugar mama. You could be a soft guy. Still involves money. Well, I think soft, I think that always involves money. No, that's not, soft girl era does not involve, doesn't necessarily involve money.
Starting point is 03:56:14 We'll add another hour to this podcast. Okay, nope. If you lie like that. I'm lying. Are you kidding? You're full of shit. Mel, come on, for real. It doesn't.
Starting point is 03:56:23 Yes, it's specifically about that. No, it ain't specifically, but it goes, look. Hand in fucking hand. Big hand and little hand. Are you kidding me? They're first cousins. They're real close. Real close.
Starting point is 03:56:33 Real close. No, they are. They are. They're West Virginia brothers. They're in the room with each other. They're in the room. They're cousins too. They're cousins.
Starting point is 03:56:41 Yeah. Mel, explain yourself before we end. They're in the room with each other, but it doesn't necessarily mean that. When women are saying, you know, like, you know, I feel comfortable to be my softest self, it's because I feel a sense of security, you know? I need to think of what provides the security.
Starting point is 03:56:58 Huh? J-P-P, J-P. No, I'm not doing that to Mal. Y'all listen to Mal. I ordered food already, so. I ate, I'm good. I to Mel. Y'all listen to Mel, I ordered food already. I'm good. I already ordered some food. No, it just offers a woman the chance to be her softest self and feel like she is secure
Starting point is 03:57:16 in her relationship. Not worried about anything, right? Just not worried about anything. Mel, what girl is with a broke nigga is in her soft care? What girl is secure? I personally don't know. What woman that don't have to worry about anything, one of those things is financial stuff.
Starting point is 03:57:32 So when you don't have financial cares or worries, then that means that homeboy has stepped in and taken that worry away from you. That's maybe one way of looking at it, but not necessarily. What's the other way? That's just one of the things. What's the other way of looking at it, but not necessarily. What's the other way? That's just one of the things. What's the other way to look at it? Okay, I'll put it to you like this. I have a girlfriend who was very, very, very, very, very,
Starting point is 03:57:52 very, very, very, very fucking tough. Her exterior, everything about her was just combat and fucking fight because no motherfucker ever made her feel confident and comfortable and allow, where she could feel confident and comfortable and allow where she could feel vulnerable and feel like he wasn't gonna go anywhere. So the man that she ended up marrying him, marrying, that's what he did for her. He made her feel soft and secure
Starting point is 03:58:16 and that no matter how she showed up, no matter what insecurity she displayed, he wasn't going anywhere. He was, no, he was not. He wasn't broke. He wasn't no. I don't even know. He wasn't bro. I don't even know. Thank you for your contribution today, honestly. I enjoyed having to do this.
Starting point is 03:58:32 It was really great. Yeah, I feel big. We could help amplify the woman voice today. Wait, wait. I know you had enough. I lost it. You had enough of the woman voice. I got it.
Starting point is 03:58:41 No, no, we always want to help amplify the woman voice. You did it. All right. You did it. of the woman voice. I got it. We always want to help amplify the woman voice. You did it. All right. You did it. Hey. Hello. You know how you know. This cost money.
Starting point is 03:58:50 This shit sound so crisp, yo. I know. Hey. Hello. Yeah, like when this drop niggas was like, yo, there's a Mr. Carter sample somewhere laying around How appropriate Too new forever from me to you I heard somebody say church I'ma need a suit
Starting point is 03:59:15 I'ma need a coupe I wouldn't need a roof Fly in a Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice I got the flow of truncism That nigga made us say Beetlejuice You see what I had shot Three times, it's dangerous Three times It's a dangerous game Oh my lord Steve Aaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy y that nigga made us say Beetle juice three times dangerous Oh my lord Got this spring hatin' on me, cuz I ain't never sprung winter Hatin' on me, cuz I'm colder than y'all
Starting point is 03:59:45 And I will never, I will never, I will never fall I'm being hated by the seasons, so fuck y'all, I'm hating for no reason You Mr. Cosy, tell me where have you been? Around the world and I'm back again Askin' me, who's been askin' about me? In case you're wondering, real life I am him, around the world now I'm back again Who's been asking about me?, so you know what the real problem is with Wayne and this is- Yeah, he keep finding studios.
Starting point is 04:00:25 No, no, it's honestly, it is, it's, that's what he did. That's what he did. Wayne don't rap about shit. That's really what he did. Yo, I was about to say, that song that we just heard, he wasn't spittin' nothin' crazy.
Starting point is 04:00:39 The raps from the earlier album that we heard are much better than those. But on that album, he did that. He did that. No, he went crazy. He had concepts, too. No, he did. He had concepts. He did.
Starting point is 04:00:47 Not a lot. No, that's not true. Not a lot. On Carter III? Yes. You know way more about Wayne and me. But Carter III was, he had conceptual songs on that album. A couple of songs.
Starting point is 04:00:59 Overall, he does not rap about shit. And it's hard to stay current and do that when you're just putting words out there, putting words together. Just rapping. You're just rapping. Just rapping. You it's hard to stay current and do that when you just putting words out there, putting words together. Just rapping. You just rapping. Just rapping. You just rapping to a beat.
Starting point is 04:01:09 He's basically in this, oh they're gonna kill me too. It's almost into the pot, they're gonna hear this. Shit. He basically is Eminem just not as technical. Em do that. Just at a very technical level. You were right. They are gonna kill you. Em does it too. Just at a very technical level. You were right. They are going to kill you.
Starting point is 04:01:25 M does it too. Just technical. Put the words together. Hey Tanner. No, no, hey Tanner. We good. We good. Hey Tanner.
Starting point is 04:01:32 Send this to Eminem. Yeah. Put this in the notes. Don't keep me in the clip too. Like you could cut right here. That's how you do it. Yeah. On God.
Starting point is 04:01:40 On God. I'm telling you, bro. And I love you when I'm up over them. Woo. Yo, we want to hear you. We. And I love when I'm up over them. Woo. Shh. I ain't a star, but it's time to team up. Yo, we want to thank our special guest, Jeremy Heck,
Starting point is 04:01:52 for a show. Very seldom can I meet someone for the first time, and their voice graced these microphones. So it shows how I feel about this guy. One of my favorite white guys. Not Parks, but one of my favorite white guys in the game. I want to thank my sister Mel. Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Adios, ariva, dirce, hasta la vista, arvore, so long, goodbye, with simple head nod, with some pipes. And I deserve a throne, and if the kid ain't right, and if I die in this song, see, I be riding, just riding alone.
Starting point is 04:02:32 With my daddy on my mind, like, you gotta be kidding. How the hell you ain't here to see your friends do his thing? Sometimes I'm on the drop a tip on new emotions from my fate. Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass, so let's make this one last as if it's all So bitch why the fuck is you trippin'? I'm takin' these chances What else? What else? Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy y' ain't doing Potter University. I'm a motherfucker. He got a couple hooks, man. He has some. But I'm just saying overall, he's not known as the hook guy in his career. Oh, we doing part of university.
Starting point is 04:03:28 All right. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I said he can never do it. What y'all think is going on? Let's break it down. Jay-Z can't do hooks. Okay. But he got a couple.
Starting point is 04:03:40 Don't mean he's known for his hooks. Ice, you just getting a lot of bad takes off in the last second of this part And because it's the end I can't give me give me give me five jay-z hooks that he did himself that are fire hooks Oh, you just moved the goalpost. I just said he can't do hooks like that, but that don't mean you doing the hook means That's where we're based. He's the comment. We said Wayne doing the hook. We talked about Wayne doing hooks He named a Wayne hook that he did, and I'm like, you can still be a great rapper
Starting point is 04:04:08 not being able to do hooks. Picking a hook or a feature hook is not, I'm talking about you doing the hook. I remember the era, I was around for the era where producers were saying to get a Jay-Z placement, send him a beat with a hook on it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It don't take nothing away from that.
Starting point is 04:04:22 It don't take it at all. Well then I'm talking about it. It's talented, know that. Identifying a good hook, that's what I'm saying. It don't take nothing away from that. It don't take it at all. Well then I'm talking about it now. It's talented to know that. Let me get my hook in it. Identifying a good hook. That's what I meant. So when I say somebody can't make a hook, it mean they can't identify a good hook.
Starting point is 04:04:34 Make a hook and identify a hook mean two totally different things. So I'm out of here. Hov don't want to do his hooks, either. You had no fight for me. OK. But he's going to identify. Absolutely.
Starting point is 04:04:42 100%. A good hook, or pay for it. Yes. OK. Mel, Or pay for it. Yes. OK. Mel, what you think about Hov's hook making? Before we, no, honestly, we got to get to the bottom of it. As a woman. I think it's fantastic.
Starting point is 04:04:59 I don't know. I think that sums it up. They put you in the back of the big pimping yacht. I was not in the back. You weren't in the front. Yes I fucking was. You know who it was. The little boat that be on the side of the yacht that you dropped out.
Starting point is 04:05:13 The dinghy. I was not on the fucking dinghy. The dinghy. You know who was in the front. Don't play. Who was in the front? You know who was in the front. Who was in the fucking front?
Starting point is 04:05:21 Hey. She know who was in the front. Me. I didn't even know who was in the front. I was in the front. Who was in the front? I was in the front. Who was in the fucking front? Keep it lit up in my cup, all my cars got lit up with in my little car. She knows who was in the front. And I. We know.
Starting point is 04:05:29 Me. I didn't even know there was other verses on that song. On the canopy, my stem and the bees hang up a family, Anderson Lee, MTV, jam of the weeds, made my money too long to gamble with me. But I'm still sitting on the thing. You know who was in the front of that boat. In front of that yacht.
Starting point is 04:05:42 Are you saying Gloria? Are you saying it? Gloria wasn't there. No, she was there. No, saying Gloria? Are you saying it? Gloria wasn't there. No, she was there. No, not when you was there. No, Gloria, Gloria. Not early in the day. Gloria was in Miami.
Starting point is 04:05:52 I know. There was two different shoots. I know, that's what we're saying. There was the Trinidad shoot and there was the Miami shoot. That's what we're telling you. She was not in Trinidad and I was not in Miami. That's what we're saying to you.
Starting point is 04:06:03 Trinidad came to her. Yeah, you wasn't there. Leave it alone, man. That's what we're saying to you. Trinidad came to her. Yeah, you wasn't there. Leave her alone, man. It's OK. That accord couldn't make it to Trinidad. OK, you did. Ha ha ha. JVP, JVP, why would you be without JVP?
Starting point is 04:06:21 Bye. What's up, man? Dash 40.

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