The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 845 | "Atheist Mingle"

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Starting point is 00:00:30 It's not a running gun camera. I use it for running gun. No you don't. I do. When I do my documentary, FX6. Yeah. It's a good camera. It makes it look really cinematic when you do stuff. It does. I just bought mine today. You stole the Spike Lee thing when they rolled the thing. You did that effect. Did the Michael Mink, nah, nah, nah, I don't do all that.

Starting point is 00:00:49 I didn't even know that the J.B.P. needed the FXX. It doesn't. That's dope. That's not. You know, it has its- That's crazy. That's the I.A.M. The I.A.M.P. or I.A.M.S. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the I.A.M.

Starting point is 00:01:02 We need it. I see today is one of the days I'm gonna need my headphones. M.A.I. M.A.I. I'm gonna need to hear everything today. M.A.M. Yeah, we need it. I see today is one of the days I'm gonna need my headphones. M.A.I. I'm gonna need to hear everything today. M.A.I. Oh, that's true. That's true. I appreciate the Black man first.

Starting point is 00:01:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Wow, okay. Y'all making moves up here. I put whoever name first, this is in front of me. Like, that's how I do it. You in front of me is Mark and Ian show, and what Ian is to Ian and Mark show. I respect that. What about when they both there?

Starting point is 00:01:27 Oh, then I don't say it. It's y'all show. That's y'all show. It's y'all show. It's y'all show. Got it, got it, got it. Ian trying to make moves, he think I don't see what he doing too.

Starting point is 00:01:39 I see what he doing. He doing something. Just in case. Hey, hey, hey. Can't be mad at the brother. I ain't mad at him. Fool Vince McMahon in a minute. He told me Saturday that live call somebody called. I'm watching.

Starting point is 00:01:56 Look. First time I heard this. Oops. Oops. What's up y'all? Chill. How you feeling? Your little skit about to pay off. They're going to give you an Abraham Lincoln beard.

Starting point is 00:02:12 It's cool. I'm with you. Mark acting his ass off. What's dude Bravo? Macho. You need a macho deal. You need a movie deal with macho niggas. I heard it get about these days. Our sister in Christ is not here with us today.

Starting point is 00:02:28 Why not? She is away shooting her movie. And this time has been in for a month, a month, over a month. Don't y'all dry your shit up. Anybody. Anybody. You know the fans. Nobody cares about that.

Starting point is 00:02:44 I think she's ducking smoke. Up here. We don about that. I think she ducking smoke. Up here. We don't care. I ain't giving a fuck. Who's the boy though? Anyone wanna watch the movie? I'm definitely gonna watch the movie. What? Proud of time.

Starting point is 00:02:52 Facts. Oh I forgot I got a male movie in the tuck. Oh dude there is a, I haven't watched the. I got the male movie in the tuck and the Mark Cote doc. He still never said which one was a good one. You found it? I put it in the movie. I'm not sure.

Starting point is 00:03:00 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm the male movie in the tuck and the Mark Colt doc. He still never said which one was a good one. You found it? I put it, he said, he said, he said in the group chat.

Starting point is 00:03:11 Well, he's not in the group chat. Then we make a new one so that you can accommodate your green bubble. No, it's buffoonery. Although it's better now, the green bubbles. I will say that. It is. Why, is Emerald green?

Starting point is 00:03:22 What are you talking about? Nah, they, they, they. Is it different green? They work better now. Yeah, they work better. I'm serious. I'll jump to the top. Apple went in with the RCS shit that y'all use.

Starting point is 00:03:32 So now the communication between the two are much better. It's not as goofy. It's not as red receipts and all. The pictures come through right. All that type of shit. So maybe it's time to add it. We'll see. I think it's time.

Starting point is 00:03:43 You'll be missing some vital information. No, he not. You don't miss nothing. What is this new Mel movie about? I don't know. She don't tell us her business. Do we need to know? Yeah, that's fair. I'm just hitting play regardless. Mel didn't play. How many days they shooting? I don't know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. How many days Mel shooting? Who's that? The Times? Or someone that read the Times? Yes, that was someone that read The Times. I got a couple of them calls.

Starting point is 00:04:10 I bet you did. I bet you did. I'm not sure how many days. I think she might have asked for a week or two. Oh, wow. She liked 10 movies. Yo. Hey, hey. Hey, hey.

Starting point is 00:04:19 Hey, hey. Dude, the shooting. What the fuck? What the fuck is up? From her seat, though. From her seat. From her seat. It's a diabolical part of it. It's a feature film.

Starting point is 00:04:29 Holy shit. Have you seen one of the movies? I have not. You know what? They're on my to-do list. They're great. I enjoy all of them. Got you. I enjoy all of them. Shout out to my sister.

Starting point is 00:04:42 Don't worry, I'm going to get us started. Don't worry, because I hear y'all. This bod, you gotta watch these dudes' bods. These dudes' bods, everybody come to the club with a burner. The dudes' bod is like. I got one in my sock. The security's Cory. No security.

Starting point is 00:05:01 He ain't in my sock. He let us run away. I got one in my sock and one in my hip. Just in case. That was like the Bronx on Friday. I ain't been here on Friday in a while. Because you know, not allowed. It's a whole different vibe in here.

Starting point is 00:05:22 It's like every hood. It's some Brooklyn niggas, there's some Bronx niggas, there's some Staten Island muggies. That shit don't mix. That shit don't mix neither. All these niggas have some niggas with them. Oh, that's about it. Don't mix. Yeah, that's what a dude gets. Oh my God, Jesus.

Starting point is 00:05:38 This tension is thicker than German god dogs in here. Just walking here and they see all the brothers smiling. Right? We all in a good space, a good mood. Look us out the mark. You looking confused, you okay? You know what I'm talking about? Okay.

Starting point is 00:05:52 Well, shouldn't we all be in a great mood? Yeah, maybe. Maybe, we'll get to it. We'll get to it. We shouldn't be in a great mood? No. Are you in a great mood? No.

Starting point is 00:06:03 I mean, I see what today is. Yeah, today, what's today? Is YouTube good? Yeah, yeah. Is YouTube good? YouTube, YouTube. Hey, make some noise. Make some noise.

Starting point is 00:06:13 I got paid yesterday. Niggas got their YouTube check. Hey. That was yesterday. I got paid yesterday. Shout out to everybody out there. Got that YouTubey. I got advanced.

Starting point is 00:06:21 Oh, you got that adsensey. I got paid yesterday. Oh, that's why you That adsense. I got pay as well. That's why you talking about the FXR. FX6. And the FX6. Yeah, you don't get myself a new one. I got a couple, but at the same time, I think that what it is is.

Starting point is 00:06:34 For the camping shit. Yeah, yeah, for my camping trip. Yeah, I told you, stay in my business. I'm not in yours. I'm not in yours yet. I'm not in yours yet. We gonna get to it. You trying to smile.

Starting point is 00:06:43 You trying to put my temperature out. No. Whatever temperature you think I'm on, I'm on that. You said you wore a couple of them. However you think I feel, I feel that. How much they cost, this? A lot. Eight bands. Oh, you can get two, three, four of them.

Starting point is 00:07:00 No, not two, three, four. I just need two. All right, I see what y'all want to. I got to get your headphones today, Breeze I got it. That's why a great criminal My daughter's birthday she put the flower there rest hair. Today's my daughter's birthday. She put the flower there. Rest in peace, Malcolm. Jamal Warner. It's a beautiful day here in Atlanta. I just wanted to shout out and just spread some love and some good cheer.

Starting point is 00:07:35 You know, life is out here like it, right? No job asked. Just wanted to remind you as I remind myself that no matter what's going on there's always a reason to smile. Like if you just take a minute to stop and take a stop I guarantee you can find at least one reason to smile. And if for some reason you can't find a reason to smile then that's probably the best time to be the reason for somebody else to smile.

Starting point is 00:08:06 So, that's all for yourself. No job done! That's all I've got. Listen to love, it's been a minute. Peace and love and I'll be back soon. When I was 15, I think, I was in the hospital with my grandfather and I literally watched him take his last breath. And if you've ever seen someone take that final breath, there's this piece that comes over you, just washes over you. And I realized, so of course it was emotional when I was sad and all that, but even at 15 I realized

Starting point is 00:08:55 that when we grieve for people who have passed on, we're grieving for ourselves because we missed them. And when I think about people in my life who have gone on and transitioned, I think about the lives that they've led. Like, they were good people. There's somewhere in my head that goes like, yeah, they really made me go off to a better place. Cause I look around this world and be like, ugh.

Starting point is 00:09:20 Yeah. So, and when we talk about why are the good people taking them, you know, taking away from us and I go Celebrate life today fragile and in the blink of an eye you never you never know so speaking We celebrate life today Uh? Mic check, one two one two mic check Mic mic mic mic mic mic mic

Starting point is 00:09:54 Turn me up in a half hole, turn me up in a half hole Not really, Parks Just my ad-libs, four minutes Stick it up, stick it up Throwback, throwback, fully rest, fully rest Poke it up, poke it up Stick it up, stick it up, stick it up, throw it back So happy y'all could be here with us today Poke it out, all the way for the ladies, all the way for the ladies Throw it back, throw it back, fully rich She got a thing for niggas with money

Starting point is 00:10:15 She got a thing for niggas with money Poke it out, stick it out, stick it out, throw it back Home to the charity, home to New York City Wherever you're listening from I got the baddest majority She got my lame on top of her tits I do my dance when I get you I do my dance, I feel like I'm shooting Hit the ball, do a trick Climb on top, do a splash

Starting point is 00:10:46 She wanna do it on my day Sit on my arm areas, I told her look out for the stage I'm from the stage This is a melody Wake it up out there I'm off the money, this ain't a lien This is a no-win game I'm off the mic, this ain't a lean That's why I'm moving retarded Maybe welcome to the party

Starting point is 00:11:13 I'm not, I'm not about to lose the button Give me lip, gun on my hand One in the ass, baby Baby, baby, baby, just lower your tone Cause you can get ego Don't worry I'ma get some energy out of this room one way or the other Don't worry about it I'ma find a vibe in this motherfucker one way or the other Best broadcasters in the world, best broadcasters in the world

Starting point is 00:11:56 Tell me about that Yeah! Just pick the cash out they had on one Macbola Call up my bro Kjini like a love Angela I just spent some cash on the Macbola Just made some burning shrapnel What the fuck is that? And bitch I'm heading to your city Just to cop up all of city Me and JJ went for 50 Fill up the gas tank it was in there

Starting point is 00:12:26 Stockster stock We heading out to filler Filler Filly with a VA with a I got racks all in my billy Shout out to Slice that's the billy For cocaine shites I'm getting trippin

Starting point is 00:12:42 Rotate the opposite with my guys If you busy This is the real world boy Boy, really fetchin' Fuck, okay, shite, stop gettin' trippin' Yeah, trippin' Rotate the opposite way, my guys, if you're busy I'm gettin' busy, baby This is the ring, oh boy The more this day, the shorter that this time This is the ring That's that, that's that Especially when the boys is around Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, My New York bias is showing Come on, doctor nigga, wake up!

Starting point is 00:13:27 Wake up, doctor nigga wake up Wake up doctor nigga dog, I worked my whole life but I ain't never punched a car Now you ain't never seen a nigga get shot, damn Niggas quick to run they mouth when they get jacked We got a great cell line here for y'all, that we go, I promise Everybody in the car right now Everybody at work right now Coach should be chasing money but you chasing b****

Starting point is 00:14:10 Barton the stupas The real bosses don't talk we just sit back and listen The b****es at the Dukdo office She like to argue so I see that b**** lost You keep it real with your bad words She a son of a b****,. All right, we gotta work. Oh my God. Man, turn this shit the fuck up.

Starting point is 00:14:34 Turn this shit the fuck up, man. Rest in peace, Malcolm Jamal Warner. Hold up, man. Rest in peace, Pop Smoke. Rest in peace, Young Dolph. Rest in peace. Rest in peace Pop Smoke, rest in peace Young Dolph. Rest in peace all of the black excellence that we have lost. This show is dedicated to y'all and Padstay, white excellence too, rest in peace Padstay.

Starting point is 00:14:57 Rest in peace Pad. Stop playing. Yo. Bishop Bregante, rest in peace. Rest in peace Bishop, keep the fucking applause going for Bishop Bregante nigga, rest in peace. God the fucking applause going for Bishop or gone thing nigga rest in peace Goddamnit fat man scoop. Oh Rest in peace ur. God he Clark in

Starting point is 00:15:14 Be king Yeah, I mean some of the greats we lost Thank God for getting us here today y'all as well putting breath in our lungs this morning You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with us best broadcasts in the universe we are so grateful and so happy to have you let me get these drops out the way real quick man so we can get to the business I know I know shout out to all the ladies listening shout out to the educator community peace peace peace

Starting point is 00:15:42 how you greet them niggas Mark peace peace peace how you greet the niggas more shout to all the fucking constructive niggas the construction the real that you do how we greet the niggas is talking these niggas say walk one right we greet the niggas all right yeah niggas in Wagwan, right? Yeah, I mean pick up that fucking sheetrock what right now nigga what's the shit to cover the top of the house call the We don't got the machine in nigga. You niggas come up that night and do the machine. We don't got the machine in nigga. You doing man, you a labor. You stupid. What episode is this man?

Starting point is 00:16:28 845. Welcome to episode 845. Best broadcast in the world, best broadcasters in the world. This broadcast is brought to you by Fuel, by Power, by Price Picks Gang. Price Picks Gang here. Here.

Starting point is 00:16:39 I am your humble, grateful, gracious, so happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people Again, our sister in Christ Mel is not here. She is away shooting a movie to my right the good brother Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building mark. How you feeling man feeling good, man? Feeling good good good happy to have you next to him Queens get the money big Queens with Queen's Flip is in the building Queens How you doing? I feel good. I feel great my man So happy to be here so happy to have you here. Next to him, you see the vibes, King Dimples.

Starting point is 00:17:08 What? King Dimples himself. What's wrong with you? Look at this nigga. I got dimples all over. King Dimples. He's crazy. That's your man.

Starting point is 00:17:16 Yeah, this. Simon and Green. Big inches in the building. Simon and Green. Make some noise. Nigga like a- That is Simon and Green. Simon and Green. Salmon and Green!

Starting point is 00:17:25 Ish how you feeling man? N***a like soul food, let's go boy! N***a like AKM. AKM. And you miss lights kids too. Yeah yeah yeah. How you feeling Ish? Excuse me.

Starting point is 00:17:35 It's an honorary. It's a serious matter. All you missing is the Ultima. Oh. I've been in a few. We know, we know n***a. If you give out a few. How you feeling?

Starting point is 00:17:43 Stupid. I'm good yo. Good seeing you bro. we know, nigga. If you give out a few. How you feeling? You're stupid. I'm good, yo. Good seeing you, bro. Good, good. Happy to have you here, my brother. Next, nigga. He don't respond like us, nigga.

Starting point is 00:17:53 He ain't going to say what you want to say. We ain't going to say what you want us to say, nigga. I only did that for the show. We ain't going to say what you want us to say. Oh, I'm happy to be here. We ain't going to say that, boy. That's what I'm supposed to say? No. I am happy to be here, dog. Not at say that, boy. That's what I'm supposed to say? Yeah. No.

Starting point is 00:18:05 I am happy to be here, dog. Not at all. I'm not falling for none of your tricks today. You know I'm on it. I'm in such a great mood. I'm not falling for none of your shit. You've been dodging this since early. I did flip tweet this morning saying, oh, hell no.

Starting point is 00:18:18 And I was like, oh, no, I'm not fucking with Flip today. Next to Ish, you know the fucking vibes. Big Freeze, Mr. Take It Further, Ice in the Builder. Freeze. How you feeling, Freeze? Good, good. Good, good. Next to ish you know the fucking vibes big freeze mr.. Take it further Are you feeling freeze good good good good good to have you here next to freeze King Elmira big part Are you doing part? I'm excellent man. It's not the weekend with the family man. I'm chilling awesome And Elmira we're at the lake. Yeah, I'll say that I was like people got late when they are late properties when they say they were the family, they got a lake somewhere. They got a coy pond, a swing. I'm sorry. That little tire with this way. Oh, there's no swing.

Starting point is 00:18:56 And do you swing? Yeah, I was looking at real estate and Elmira. Oh yeah. Shut the fuck up. I was. That shit is. No, but shut up. He's trying to keep it down. That boy out here making moves. Two rollies bins.

Starting point is 00:19:11 Trying to blow shit up. Parby, Parby cat daddy. You trying to get Park Street out there? You trying to get the parks compound? Valley court. Valley court. Oh that's dope, Parks. Nah, it was fire up though.

Starting point is 00:19:19 I had a good weekend. Disappointing. Disappointing. Disappointing. Disappointing. Disappointing. Disappointing. Disappointing. Disappointing. Hey! Valley court. Valley court. Valley court. Oh, that's dope, Parks. Nah, it was fire up there.

Starting point is 00:19:28 I had a good weekend. Just sat and listened to everybody's voice for a weekend. Everyone was there, you know what I mean? You ever do that? What? I know it's probably weird. I just sat and listened to people. Like your friends and loved one

Starting point is 00:19:39 and appreciated their fucking voice. I know you too, man. That's fire. Yeah, it's fire. I do that sometimes. Yeah. You get so caught up in our world that you know yeah it humbles you sometimes you see how they think what's going on with them I know you told my yeah and people leave it yeah yeah that's the real shit that's for sure let me text my fucking little brother and they can text me about nine

Starting point is 00:20:01 texts that was dope they were so dope that I acknowledged them and didn't reply you ain't had nothing to was dope. They were so dope that I acknowledged them and didn't reply. You ain't had nothing to say back. They were just so fine. They were so fly. I read it and was like, I don't know about the cooking. They just put the fucking thumbs up.

Starting point is 00:20:11 Who's looking you up? Little nigga rapper too. No, just with different, I think his last text was, yo, the addition of Mark. Great, y'all see what y'all doing. And y'all just supported. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 00:20:20 Like little brother texts. We didn't always, we ain't always. I mean, so that's that's why that's amazing That's why Poe is here. Cory is still here single July the end of July Cory. What's up, man? Honestly, yo, how's it be single in the summer honestly get an okay cupid man man. Okay, Cupid. Christian mingle. That funnel of fish. Yo, now I'm got an atheist mingle. Get atheist mingle. Now I got atheist mingle, yo.

Starting point is 00:20:47 The universe brought us together. Hey, universe mingle. Hey, God went up with no pussy in core life, man. God, man. Universal Cupid. Oh man, this guy is crazy. That man Corrigy is home watching Prison Break. Oh, sorry.

Starting point is 00:20:55 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Starting point is 00:21:03 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Universal Cupid Crazy gorgeous home watching prison break South Central. South Central. South Central. Yeah, shit. He watching man, boy. He watching the first one or two. Come on, come on, man. All these new blacks, now he gets in touch with the feminist side and shit. Yo, bitch, it's like the wire, too, Cora. Come on, man. Get it together, man.

Starting point is 00:21:35 Erickson is back there. Ian and Keeb, I think, are here. Savon and Tanner are here. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. How's everybody doing, man? What's going on? Great, man. Great, great. I'm just happy. Savon and Tanner here last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. How's everybody doing, man? What's going on?

Starting point is 00:21:45 Chilling, man. Chilling. Stupid. Great, great. I'm just happy. I'm happy to be here. What was your weekend like? Great, man.

Starting point is 00:21:53 Family, filming, just moving around. Yeah, you doing a campin' trip, a cookout or something? I am doing a campin' trip. Tents? Type of August, yeah, with a bunch of people. In tents? In tents. Where? In tents, probably, too. Pennsylvania. Seriously of August, yeah, with a bunch of people. Intense. Intense. Where?

Starting point is 00:22:06 And intense probably too. Pennsylvania. Seriously. Where in Pennsylvania? I don't want to say it all out. Oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. But yeah, just be careful out there, man. My homie got killed out there.

Starting point is 00:22:14 Yeah. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Camping. Yo dog! I don't want that to happen to Flip. I mean, it's going to be 20 or 30 of us. That's what happened with my man. Yeah, nigga.

Starting point is 00:22:22 30 people killed him? The nigga in the band. The 30 people there and somebody ran up and shot up the spot. They got an argument with Graham, got his gun, and shot him in the face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Mark, why would you cheer that right now? Rest in peace to your man.

Starting point is 00:22:33 And Pennsylvania, you can bring a weapon. I just want him to bring a weapon just to be safe. Keep something in the trunk. He's a weapon. Yeah. Rawr! And on top of that, like, you know, I'm taking certain measures to make sure

Starting point is 00:22:44 that we're secured and protected. I got some people coming. So, so. Just call me before you go. Yeah, nah, that's all right. I will call you, but they don't know you in that part. Yeah, you might. You know what part?

Starting point is 00:22:53 It's the woods, nigga. They don't know you. They're talking out there. The biz know you. No, no, I'm chilling. You about to say something, though. It's right there. I didn't know if Instagram security

Starting point is 00:23:03 is going to risk their life the way normal security do. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know if Instagram security is gonna risk their life the way normal security Oh, no, I don't think I don't have Instagram security. I know you posted in the story. Yo, I need somebody to secure No, no, no, and don't get too friendly and familiar Yeah, I post that so they could be prepared for the type of act, you know my character But I pay for security. I didn't had it wrong. Yeah Free woman boy in the tent. Nah, they gotta pay for their own tent. What?

Starting point is 00:23:28 The security? No, oh the security, no, no, I was about to say it. I'll take care of my security, yeah. You saw my security last time. Yeah, I'm talkin' shit. You got two more. I'm just talking, hey, why not? I gotta see you in the street.

Starting point is 00:23:41 Why not? Wine, beer, bar, shot cars, 20 red, or M.Colla. Holla! Don't try to get on my good side, boy. You know how to get to me too. You be real with me, you master the puppet mastery. There's no puppet mastery.

Starting point is 00:24:00 You just get me in, like you be hyping me, I be in the mood. I be eager to come to work on Tuesdays and see you. I can't wait to see you, sir. Really? Oh, I miss you. I miss you, yo. I miss you too, man.

Starting point is 00:24:12 Did you read the article? No, I did not read the article, but I saw the headline. Saw the headline, woo hoo hoo. I was proud of my boy. Can I put up the headline? Please do, oh god. While you do that, I didn't even know the article dropped. I didn't know neither.

Starting point is 00:24:24 I just knew by my phone ringing or from people that I haven't spoken to in a while. I'm talking about over four years. Oh, she, she texted again. No, not a she. Hey, big free. Yo, you still like that massage? You still got it? You still like that neck rub? Hey, she, she texted again. That's what she said. Shout out to my baby. I don't know what the fuck they talking about. Is this number still the same? Y'all playing? No, no, we ain't playing.

Starting point is 00:24:49 No, no, no, no. I'm not playing with Reezy. Let me know. I'm not playing with Reezy. Nah, man, niggas, I ain't spoke to in years. I answered the phone. Yo, what up, fam? Yo, I'm in a bind, bro.

Starting point is 00:24:57 Who is this? Yo, dog. Y'all can't even hear you. I'm on the bridge. I'm going to call you back in like two seconds. My signal go out right here. Signal go out? Yeah. I'm on the bridge. I'm on the, I can't even hear you. I'm on the bridge

Starting point is 00:25:05 I'm gonna call you back in like two seconds. My signal go out right here Signal go out. Yeah shit for those wonder my signal be extra strong This morning is a great morning to leave niggas in a bind This morning was the perfect morning. Hey, some of them don't even hang up right away. So you can hear the bind. You can hear a tow truck or some shit. Beep, beep, beep. What you in the net duct tape? What kind of bond you with? Nah, for real, some of these niggas woke up talking about,

Starting point is 00:25:36 yo, adopt this little nigga for a few summers. Like, no, nigga, take care of your kid. Yo, people are wondering what we talking about. The headline from the New York Times today says, how does this podcast star make 20 to zero, 20 million dollars a year? And we all sat up and asked the same question, how the fuck does he do that?

Starting point is 00:26:01 Did you read it? I read the article, yeah, I read every one of them. They gave a breakdown? A little something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I it? I read the article. Yeah, I read everything if they gave a breakdown Yeah, yeah, I encourage everybody to read this article. It's a good article. You can't say that I didn't write it I'm complimenting the writer. Yeah, but they begin you up. Let us say that shit like yeah, they're making y'all up to They are they are well, no, they big they mention mentioned they big and you're all up to. They say we're there, too. OK, I'm going to. Yeah, they sit down with them. Right. You know, I had to read this article.

Starting point is 00:26:32 I had to read the article now. How do you feel letting the New York Times put this information out there? You've been very sort of cagey and quiet about revenue. And in the last month, people have gone from hearing big numbers like 900,000 a month to find out that that's actually minuscule in comparison to this 20 million a year That's a lot of information for the world to have how you feel about that on the publishing side No, the 20 is a some bullshit

Starting point is 00:27:03 You know, the 20 is some bullshit. How do you feel, man? The 20 is a slight. None of this is possible without the fans. I feel good, you ain't Stephanie Mills. Without the people that was there from day one. Peezy, Parks, come on now, Erickson, y'all. Yeah, we appreciate it. Yeah, no, it's dope.

Starting point is 00:27:23 Last time I was in the Times, it was the entertainment section. Seven years ago. That's fire. This ain't entertainment now. It's business. It ain't entertainment no more. Yeah, so. That's what's up.

Starting point is 00:27:32 That's fire. Shout out to them. I hope black media covers this well, because. I do too. These are the stories that people don't cover. They'll cover. Oh, they're gonna cover it. It's just not gonna be the way you think they're gonna cover it.

Starting point is 00:27:41 They might, it depends. And that's the part I don't like. Okay, it depends. You know what I'm saying? Like if you can cover the other shit from last year, then you can cover this shit. That's all I'm saying. Let the cheers be as loud as the criticism. I said it.

Starting point is 00:27:53 I said it. No. No. That's not how it works. Everybody up here know that. All you motherfuckers that made fun of my man, when niggas whatever, nigga make fun of this. This is a slap in your face, nigga niggas whatever, nigga make fun of this. This is a slap in your face, nigga.

Starting point is 00:28:07 Self built, independently. That's a fact. And this is a testament to how, and a motivation to others that don't give up believing in yourself and you get done. Nigga we salute you man. I appreciate that. Yeah, hold your side.

Starting point is 00:28:20 We gonna make a shit load of jokes, but I agree with everything you said. I know y'all do. I know y'all do. I know y'all do. We on your ass though. How do y'all feel about that co-host part? They did mention co-host. Tell us, tell us.

Starting point is 00:28:29 I ain't even got it. You read it. They mentioned co-host revenue or co-host income. That's the y'all part. Yeah, that's the us. It said Joe Button and them. It said payment of these contractors, I guess that's us. That's the big up.

Starting point is 00:28:44 Uh-huh. Payment of these contractors and the on-air talent is the company's biggest expense. For example, more than $1.5 million annually goes to the co-hosts of the Joe Button podcast. And they say they include Queen's Flip, Me, Mel, Parks-ish, and ICE. And I'm on it. They didn't say I'm on it.

Starting point is 00:29:04 I know what I'm saying. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. Shout out to I'm on it. I wasn't say I'm on it. I know what I'm saying. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. Shout out to I'm on it. I wasn't trying to play him. I just said they didn't say it in the article. They should have though. Yeah, they should have. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:29:12 Okay. That's nice. How'd that make y'all feel? Because that's going to change people. People will start calling y'all too. I've been getting phone calls. I know you got them already. And that's not even accurate.

Starting point is 00:29:20 No, I can't speak to that. No, that's a good thing. Oh, so, yo, please keep calling for you. No, that's a good thing. Keep calling for you. It's at 1.5 a year collectively. Yeah. No, that's great. No, it's a good thing. I hope so. Please keep calling for you. No, that's a good thing. It's at $1.5 a year collectively. Yeah. No, that's great.

Starting point is 00:29:27 No, it's at more than. Oh, that's great, too. It's at more than. The rumors was that you was paying individually that. Yeah. Everybody. Oh, yeah. No, no.

Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah. That's great. Rumor where? You think I'm joking? The streets. Nigga, the streets be saying that niggas make a million dollars a year up here a piece each. That's why I left the streets. Alright.

Starting point is 00:29:50 But you come in here and report street shit. If you in the streets long enough and you're not of it like me. I don't mean no streets. I mean like the internet streets. They say that. But they got a calculator. This is prior to this. So I'm happy that they thought you was making 40 or 50.

Starting point is 00:30:08 Oh, come on now. I mean, I mean, I hate this motherfucker. Yeah, but they definitely over inflated what they thought everyone up here was probably making. So it's probably good for people to. They did. Yeah. Bring them back down to reality.

Starting point is 00:30:28 I want to. Well, if we don't do that times piece, then there is no voice on the independent contractor side to say what the potential could be if you go that route. True. You always get the headlines from the people that are partnered with. They sign these large entities.

Starting point is 00:30:44 And they're playing a different game with the shareholders and yada yada yada yada. But there is nobody that's going to say, hey, you could do it this way. I mean, outside of the streamers who are just hitting that lick and saying, but even that is a. But that's still a lot of partnership. So yes, it's dope.

Starting point is 00:31:02 It's dope to see. Head down back to the work until I'm 50. And the ownership part. For the next five years. That's really what is dope is coming. Yeah. Like, whatever happened next week with technology or whatever,

Starting point is 00:31:16 nobody could make your decisions for you. When the next version of streaming drops. Yeah, yeah. Cause that's the one thing you mentioned, the streamers, like, you partner up with their, that company still owns that content though right Listen shout to a bike getting it out there. Yeah

Starting point is 00:31:32 Everybody get into it with his will there's a way and it's out there you can do it Where would y'all like to begin? I don't know if y'all want to start With Malcolm Jamal one. I don't want to bring the energy I don't want to get that heavy that soon when you say, I don't wanna get that heavy, that suit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you said people get it, I was thinking about Homegirl to settle her suit with Shayna Sharp. Yeah, you gotta get it how you get it.

Starting point is 00:31:51 She got it. I mean, she's retiring from OnlyFans. You don't say. I don't know what that means for some of y'all. Y'all might be fans of hers, or y'all might have an investment. I'm not familiar with the lady's work. I'm gonna make a citizen's arrest if I ever see that lady.

Starting point is 00:32:05 Yeah, right. That lady needs to be under the jail. Guess what else she going to do? She going to crack it. That's it. Busby will be right on your muffin. You crazy. That lady needs to be under the jail.

Starting point is 00:32:21 Did they announce how much you made? No, they didn't. But it was enough for her to leave her only fans hired sure Yeah, that that was to me was like the signal cuz they did the thing where like, you know, you don't disclose the amount Shannon got what he needed. I think maybe to save his ESPN job potentially right which was they both agreed it It was like a tumultuous but consensus And you'll really that work and sent you in there. That's major. Well, that's where my gripe lie. Cause then why, what's the payment?

Starting point is 00:32:48 How? Pay me to say that. I would like to know how y'all both came to understanding that what took place was consensual. Was tumultuous and consensual and not. That's like when people start telling. Tumultuous and consensual yet still warranted a payday. That's weird.

Starting point is 00:33:09 Well, no, the initial statement was grape. I don't want to keep saying the word. If you come out the gates with grape and land at tumultuous and consensual, I would like to know how that occurred. I would like to speak to the mediator. This lady needs to be arrested. Well, the most generous read of her side. I'm with you. Let me be her attorney for a minute,

Starting point is 00:33:30 or her advocate for a minute. What she would say is, I was harmed, and the only way for me to get justice in this case is for me to agree that there was some consensuality to the relationship. It doesn't necessarily mean that, because you said the relationship was consensual, not everything that happened between them is consensuality to the relationship. It doesn't necessarily even mean that, because you said the relationship was consensual, not everything that happened between them is consensual.

Starting point is 00:33:48 The relationship was consensual. So I feel like there's some wordsmithing happening, so both people can still stand on their square and say, I didn't lie, but allow them to get out of this. And from her side, it's like, I hear what you're saying, which is, if you were screaming the R word to the rafters, why are you not doing that now? And it might be, well, if this is the only way

Starting point is 00:34:04 I can get justice, if I don't do this, I'm not gonna get anything. What's the justice payment? Yeah, for a lot of people, civil is the recourse. And particularly, you can't get a criminal. And that's where, depending on your perception of that, depends on where you stand. I'm not looking at the payment as justice.

Starting point is 00:34:24 I look at the payment as a shakedown. And if there was a way for you to come to an understanding that this was tumultuous, then it means that that existed when you were saying that I was raping you. But she might still feel that way. She might still feel like she was assaulted. That's all I'm saying. I don't want to assume that because she accepted

Starting point is 00:34:43 the payment that she's lying. I'm not, I'm only going by the words tumultuous and consensual. Right. Yeah. But see, that's what I'm saying. Grape meant something different when I was growing up. But remember, she's saying the relationship is consensual. No.

Starting point is 00:34:59 She, they've posted text messages with them talking about relations. No, no. I'm not disagreeing. I'm saying the public statement that just came out. Mark has kind of swayed me. And there is such a thing as, I gotta write my own notes now, someone that you're with.

Starting point is 00:35:15 Yeah, that's true. You could have a consensual relationship and still sexually assault that person. And I think that's what this statement is holding space for, for her to say. That's what you said. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. And I'm not saying it's true,

Starting point is 00:35:24 and I don't necessarily believe her now I have no idea who's telling the truth here I got no idea who's too beautiful over day outside for me to reply to that with the reply that that calls for what part because that's the part where it's it's murky and uncomfortable and sensitive this is the thing I know a person personally. Um, okay. No, I mean, one of my exes, she had a boyfriend and he great. She was her boyfriend. This was her man and she told him one day they was arguing, whatever,

Starting point is 00:35:59 whatever. And he wanted to have sex. And she said, no, he took it. So I'm also agree with part of the saying that you can be in a consensual relationship with somebody you could have had sex with them 20, 30, 40, 50, 100 times and this one time or this two times that you say no and they take it is still constituted as great. Wait, does it sound like I'm opposed to that? No, no, no. No, I'm just saying. No, no, no.

Starting point is 00:36:22 No, it doesn't sound like you're saying that. I don't think you're that guy. I think your initial statement, which makes sense is, if you said X, how's it now become Y? And I think what we're saying is, she's still saying X. I think grapes should be treated like a crime at all times and not like the big joker in your back pocket used for convenience.

Starting point is 00:36:36 I agree, I agree. And that's where it gets tough. And it sounds fucked up to say that, but I mean, it is what's happening out here a little bit. No, that's not fucked up to say. Yo fam, I think that it's scary that any nowadays, and this again, nowadays if you are a man that has any financial

Starting point is 00:36:59 ascension, you have to be worried about a girl that you might have had sex with 15 years ago, coming back saying, yo, 15 years ago coming back saying yo 15 years ago This guy did something to me That is a horrible feeling in the position to be in Well, yeah I'm talking about I'm not and I'm not disagreeing with the women that these things happen to we all have empathy for them But I'm saying as a man now you are being looked at as a lick It's a it's a come-up. I have more than empathy for the victims of this stuff

Starting point is 00:37:29 Yeah, because that's the scariest thing in the world to be thinking that you vibing with somebody who's bigger and stronger than you and them Just you know, yeah, that's that's hard. Wow. That's horrifying My heart goes out there. So I have more than empathy for them that Experience is so terrifying that what is being turned. Yeah. You know, you know, today's okay. Put that article out. Nothing. No, you by putting that Johnny Kemp You better put on that Johnny Kim. Just got paid Friday night.

Starting point is 00:38:07 20 million. I'm glad that hopefully everybody out there got resolve. Hopefully Shana's life is never the same no matter what happens. And that's the crazy part. And that's the crazy part. And she gonna get to go back into obscurity and anonymity back into this- Rich. Yeah. Rich anonymity. into this rich. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:25 Rich anonymity. Even if it was shorts compared to what's the 50. Fam, she got seven figures. I would imagine. Yeah, I would imagine. In her early 20s. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:35 She might've got eight figures. Possibly, yeah. It wouldn't shock me. In your early 20s. So yeah, nobody knows me when I'm in Saint Tropez eating lobster salad. Right. Shannon Sharp walks through it, pspspspspspspspspsps. Like that's fucked up, bro. Nobody knows me when I'm in Saint Tropez eating lobster salad. Shannon Sharp walks through it, like that's fucked up, bro.

Starting point is 00:38:49 Unless he did it. Unless he did it. True. That's all I'm saying. I don't know. No, no, no. You're right. The whole story is like, but the last thing for me about this

Starting point is 00:38:56 is there are some flags here. Let's take who did it or not off the table. Well, he's still nasty for fucking with the licks. That's where I'm going. Yeah, but that still don't make him a crook. And that's where we make, and that's where the water becomes muddy because we identify flags of this older man

Starting point is 00:39:12 messing with a younger woman, but we have to hold the younger woman accountable or the people accountable that's using this joker to put the older man into a situation. So, unless he did it. Unless he did it. I have to, and I agree with that. So your point, the flags that we might look at as flags,

Starting point is 00:39:27 we all collectively will look at as flags. You're 50 something years old. I agree, it's disgusting. And you dating a girl that's 19. To us, you a piece of shit. For sure. Don't make them a crook. They don't, but I'm just saying.

Starting point is 00:39:38 So the flag that we calling a flag, it ain't really a flag. No, it's a flag. No, it's still a flag. It's a flag for us. It ain't a flag for the law. Right. I'm not saying a legal flag. I'm saying just talking to men about making good choices That's how old The 20-year-old girl at the gym is the worst choice you can make that's all I'm saying

Starting point is 00:39:56 Take crime off the table for me. Just don't do it. Your life will never be better from that. Descerm it. Can I ask you a question? Why are we so loud when it comes to our black brothers doing this, but when the white people do it, we're not as loud. Fuck them. Because we not holding ourselves up. No, I hear you, but I want to ask Mark this question

Starting point is 00:40:13 because it's discussed across the board. A lot of people get praised for, a lot of A-list celebrities get praised for having the young hot chick. Oh, you got, you got, they have, so why are we so loud? I'm like that's in the media space. I'm only laughing cuz we said we weren't starting heavy Today I'm not

Starting point is 00:40:41 Finding something I don't want to step we should start finding out or something Need to do 20 million is what I'm saying That shit hurt harm to me. Yeah, don't land it on you know how I feel about that man I'll never be saying yeah, I mean no one I think people do make fun of the DiCaprio's and come after them in a certain way And we do think it's because we had a whole conversation up here about Bill Belichick Yeah, so so I don't I think it's a narrative to say and we do think it's gross. We had a whole conversation up here about Bill Belichick.

Starting point is 00:41:05 So I think it's a narrative to say that we don't do that. I think we actually do do that. When I say we, I'm talking about the broader world. The broader world, that's what I'm talking about. Not us, particularly. Because I mean, it's a white supremacist world. Got it. Yeah, but-

Starting point is 00:41:18 But I can't even say it, we just heard, what's his name on the ESPN? Making jokes about dating a 20-year-old Shane Giles. On the SPS, making jokes about- And 20 year old Shane Giles on the SPs. Making jokes about. To me it's all gross and we should all hold people accountable for that. I don't care so much about what white people do. In terms of culturally, like I'm worried about us. So that's why I focus on us.

Starting point is 00:41:36 I don't like when we justify, yo, but the whites do it, fuck them. Exactly. Like my standard or my moral compass is not, the bar ain't what white people do. My reference point ain't what white people do. Just because white people doing it, that don't mean it's okay if we do it, if we think it's fucked shit. It's fucked shit if they do it.

Starting point is 00:41:52 Also, if you don't watch a lot of white media, you might not be, you probably watch a lot more black media than you watch white media. It's just when we critique ours, it's like we're kicking their backs in. That might be true, too. Maybe they need their backs kicked in sometimes.

Starting point is 00:42:02 Okay. But ESPN, does Shannon Sharp, we're going to see him on NFL Sunday, this fall? Anybody let the heat pass off for a couple months? Because that might have been with ESPN. That might have been their stipulation. It's a lie. Yeah, but football start in a month.

Starting point is 00:42:18 Yeah. Not even. I mean, his press release said back then. That announcement probably was for football starting I'm sure yeah that's what it feel like because when he first took time off from ESPN he said I'll be back for football season he'll be back yo bro I think even I got him coming back I'm totally switching beginning of the season I didn't see it before but I also didn't factor in the state of ESPN,

Starting point is 00:42:45 which is why he will be back. I think if Disney was big dick Disney, like we're used to them being, then they tell him to fuck off. But that's not gonna happen. They gave Pat McAfee the Sports Center block and let him curse and let him curse out Stephen A and let him, they let him do whatever you want up there

Starting point is 00:43:03 because there's a new way to do things. So, and in that new way, Shannon's pretty important. He valuable. Shannon Sharp is pretty important in that new way of doing things. If you go and crush him, which I'm sure there was a C-suite meeting about, then who's his replacement?

Starting point is 00:43:18 Y'all gotta go build one. And it ain't another one. It ain't another Shannon. It ain't another Shannon. But there are talks that saying that TV Shannon, they're basically saying it's not me. They say he a B. He not an A. He needs the A to be really the Shannon that we want to see.

Starting point is 00:43:39 Who the hell said that? Who said that? It's the man at the network. Not me. Bro, if you read any of the stuff, that's what they're saying. I love it. That Shannon is a B.

Starting point is 00:43:48 That's what they're saying. Where do they get that from? I think that's true. He is a B. Historically, he's gonna be outside of the show with Shannon. He shines as a B. Yeah. He shines as a B.

Starting point is 00:43:58 I don't think that's fair. His comedic presence could come out as a B. It's not a dis. It's not a dis. It's not a dis. We take the wrong things as dis. Shannon could come out as a diss. It's not a diss. It's not a diss. It's not a diss. We take the wrong things as diss. Shannon can be funny as a beat. Yeah, I don't want him driving a conversation.

Starting point is 00:44:10 And that's where he's immensely dope when he can be funny, when he can bring out personality and all other stuff. We've also just never seen him really be the A outside of, like I said, the late. He's an A on his show. Yeah. He's an A on anything that he does away from the network.

Starting point is 00:44:23 I think that's his point. TV Shannon ain't an A. But then we can't call him a B mic. Or you just said mm. Then we can't call him a B mic because anybody is a B mic next to Skip Bayless who has the deal at ESPN and FS1. That's true.

Starting point is 00:44:38 He's not bringing in nobody. That's a good point. And he was an A enough next to Skip. They not putting him with just A mics. They putting him next to dynamic people that run shit. Steven A. So the effect that he's having is A mic effect. The revenue he brings in the advertisers,

Starting point is 00:44:54 all that shit is A mic. So I'm not, I cannot go to sleep and call him a B mic. He should just wait for the A mic to go on vacation and then just take that shit off. Well the rumor was that ESPN was clearing out that whole PTI slot and all of that shit for Shannon to be the A mic. And now that just bought them leverage. All this shit bought them leverage.

Starting point is 00:45:16 Let's say his deal for a hundred million might not have been a hundred. Let's say it was seventy five. Oh yeah now you're getting them on a cheat. Now you're getting them for thirty five. Now you're getting them on a cheat. Right. Now you're getting them for thirty 35. I think that is bull It's crazy unless you catch

Starting point is 00:45:31 Which part catching the town to a mic and a bad times bringing him in and making him just be Mike I Think this is this situation is really fucked up. I know you telling a joke this situation I think is really fucked up. It's real fucked up It take a lot of time. I don't think so I'm struck. You know what? Does it depend on what again part of me is like if he did it right? That's that let's take that off the table though, right?

Starting point is 00:45:59 If you take that off the table if you take that off the table He just did some made some dumbass choices. We've all made dumb ass choices in our life. They shouldn't be $50 million choices. Well, if I'm paying you a hundred million dollars, I would hope that you make better choices. Cause he didn't get paid a hundred million dollars. I mean, part of it is like this hurts. This came out once it was rumored that he was going to get a million dollars. Oh, y'all think it's the, Oh, you think it like that. The next month. No, no, I'm saying you think that was like a deliberate, like the next month. Oh, you think it like that the next month? No, I'm saying you think that was like a deliberate like the next month Oh, you can what?

Starting point is 00:46:28 Buzz buzz buzzin he buzzin I got you fam like man, please I Don't know if he didn't do it. Anytime. I see something bro. My question is always why is it happening right now? Why am I getting this information right now? That's it. So when that when when shorty dropped the lawsuit and everything, okay, why write this? Oh, I hear what you say. I thought you were saying something even more deviant. I thought you said the network was in on it. No, no, I'm not saying that. It wouldn't shock me, but I'm not saying that. But I just why right now? Whether somebody put her up to it, whether it was her on her own brain doing it, whatever.

Starting point is 00:47:05 I find it ironic that soon as the news hit, yo, he's looking at a hundred million dollar deal, now this happens, now you don't get the hundred million dollar deal. I don't think it's that deep of a conspiracy. If I see someone that's on a massive ascension and about to go to the fucking stratosphere and I have a potentially reason to sue, I I'm gonna fucking sue right now. It makes sense Yeah mark the reason I'm not looking at it like he did something and I'll say this in closing is because no other Entity out there is looking at it like he did something and yes, he got she got some civil money But as we've just seen the state could watch this

Starting point is 00:47:42 she got some civil money, but as we've just seen, the state could watch this, the feds could watch this, if we feel like you broke a law, we are gonna come for criminal charges against you. None of that's happening. She just got paid. That's tough on sexual assault though. You know what I'm saying? Because it's just one word against the other.

Starting point is 00:47:57 You know what I'm saying? Like it's hard to- We just saw it. We just saw it. All they need is a witness. Yeah, but that's- They didn't win. I'm about to say they got the a witness. Yeah, but they didn't win They are about to say they got the ass kick They don't think they got was the prostitution part and then a whole investigation

Starting point is 00:48:11 That's what a whole lot of investigation but in this case each of us is a one-on-one act I hear what you're saying. You know, I mean, it's hard to prove sexual assault in general I got you know what I mean? Mm-hmm again, and I'm not I'm not saying she I don't again I have no idea who's telling the truth here. I just know that if I work for Disney, and I know that that particular brand has an investment in the host being spotless, I know going in that even fucking a 20 year old

Starting point is 00:48:37 OnlyFans model is bad for business. As opposed to, that's all I'm saying. In terms of choices. I agree with that. I agree. But when he was fucking shorty That was three years before he became the man that we see that's eligible for a hundred million dollars What is she mad when she was 19? recent as the glass January

Starting point is 00:48:56 What it was real reason was fucking up for like two or three years and he wasn't nobody by the way three years ago Right, but he wasn't a hundred million dollar man. I still think that you need to be no he should definitely have a certain amount of As a 50 million dollar man as a 20 million And I'm down to have a conversation about his decision-making and Discernment or lack thereof just not in this in this situation I'm with mark if he did that this punishment is not enough true, and if he didn't do it boy. This is twisted Yeah, yeah, that's good summation. Yes. That's what I got for y'all. Yeah on that in brighter news

Starting point is 00:49:38 Music we got some music man. We got a Monday drop. I love the Monday drop. I love the non Friday. I love the non midnight. I love everything Different from the drops that we usually get right me too. Midnight is a brutal time to fucking stay up and listen to music on a school night Yeah, especially when y'all not making memorable music that part. So what Saturday Saturday? I forgot y'all dropped forcing myself Stay up till 12 30 to fucking get some made and then don't let it be one of those. Oh, we fucked we fucked up It ain't dropped yet. Oh, yeah No, that's not waiting up for them. It's not there at 1205. It's a wrap. Sorry. See you in the morning I want to shout out even how he announced that shit With a I think my sister was at that show. We took on Tyler the Creator. Yeah

Starting point is 00:50:25 Tyler the Creator. Yeah, Tyler the Creator. Tyler the Creator, brand new album. He just did out. Don't tap the glass. He just did out many nights in New York City, sold out, my little sister went, everybody had a blast. And. My niece went to, Philly, said it was an amazing show.

Starting point is 00:50:41 I can't wait to go. I can't wait, we in there. Yeah, we in there. So, but just to announce a full-length project in the middle of your four nights Soul out in New York City with three days three days notice two days notice like that was ridiculous. That's some bold shit Actually, he didn't even he just put a date up. It was rumor. Is it a video? What's he nobody well a handful of people,

Starting point is 00:51:06 we didn't think a new album is dropping in the middle of the tour. Like, all right, you dropping a video for your song, or you dropping maybe a deluxe or something, a brand new album while you're already touring your last album? I do want to mention that. I don't know that this is, I don't know if it feels

Starting point is 00:51:19 or if he considers this to be an album in the same way he's considered his last several. It's very short. It's very short. It's 30 minutes I think. Yeah, it's 129. It felt a little mixtape to me. That's all I'm saying. What's the difference today? Not much. That's an album. He ain't about to call it a mixtape. Well, even if he did, on the back end, it ain't gonna sell. Yeah, not at all. I didn't get a chance to listen to it yet because I was tied up. How good is. Yeah, not at all. I didn't get a chance to listen to it yet because I was tired of it.

Starting point is 00:51:45 How good is it? I like it, personally. You're either gonna love or hate this album. I went right into it. All right, first of all, let's rewind a little bit. A fake track list started going around. Lot of hip hop features on there. Kendrick, Clips, you know, stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:52:02 And he addressed that. Hey, this is fake, y'all can stop. Another tweet goes out, and I see all that talk about a concept album, this ain't that either. Y'all can stop. So that I found weird, because if you're doing a surprise drop or surprise announcement, it's like,

Starting point is 00:52:21 so I'm like, okay, he's gearing up for something different and he's trying to prep people for it. Hey, don't expect whatever you're expecting. So I kind of my head was like, okay, he's going left field a little bit. Yeah This is a um It's a future album to me. You know what it reminded me of it goes back to that vibe to me You know what reminded me of when snoop made sexual seduction? Like the the the beat how you hear him sing over, it's not usually what you're used to,

Starting point is 00:52:48 but it still worked. That's how I feel about this album. Oh, interesting. Different, of course, not the same topic. This just reminded me of earlier, Tyler, where it was a little more chaotic, at least the first half, is a little more chaotic and less melodic

Starting point is 00:53:00 as opposed to the last few albums. A little more edgy, still very hip hop, like he's rapping, it's got like an 80s kinda, it actually, it felt to me somewhere between 80s, like Run DMC, the 80s hip hop, like Def Jam hip hop, and like 2000s hip hop. Yeah, I heard that, like you said, early 80s, LL, Run DMC. Remind me of this. Yeah, I heard that run like you said Hey, play some other shit that this Tyler reminds me of. Uh-oh.

Starting point is 00:53:51 What? This shit is slap. Uh-oh. This Tyler shit sound like the greatest gay night in the history of gay nights Hold up, this shit sound like, where my shit at? Hold up Hold up man Cece Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy y flip you can't fuck with I didn't get that. Yeah. All right. Well, right tonight Right after this I got you. I'm a place to tie with you Flip you can't fuck with me on the white box boy. This is the night Young oh

Starting point is 00:54:36 You too young to know about this. I don't know the name of it. I just know the words Don't worry. you're the hook coming off of you. Hey. Dancing. Hey. Hey. You don't know about this, nigga. You don't know the fuck outta here, nigga. Let's go. Let's go, let's go.

Starting point is 00:54:53 I know this shit, nigga. Nah, you're too young for this. Let's go, Tyler, talk to him. Nah, I ain't get this. I didn't get that. I see how you could, because I mean, it's still that same. It's Tyler, too. Hey.

Starting point is 00:55:01 It's the same. It's the same. It's the same. It's the same. It's the same. It's the same. It's the same. It's the same. I see how you could cuz I mean it's still that same Listen to this shit. Let's go No, are you playing New Tyler, ring ring ring. I like this record.

Starting point is 00:55:29 I like it too. Me too. I like it too. I like the second half of the project. Me too, yeah. The first couple, like I said, feels like old, older Tyler. Hey, let's go, let's go, let's go. Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, I like that song.

Starting point is 00:56:20 I do like that song. I like that song. Let's see more song. I like a lot of shit on his head. I like that song. Let's see, more Tyler. More Tyler for your head tops. Let's see here. Tyler. Where's that song? She sound like Apollonia 6, man.

Starting point is 00:56:36 Niggas really weird, bro. Where I look at you. Stay out the way. Oh Bro. When I get to snapping like Duwap Really got the juice like 2 Potts Oh Great old Tyler It's like when the gay nigga in the club. He in the back. You can't say that as a guy that played karate.

Starting point is 00:57:34 You know, I just learned today that bralic is not a word. It is in the hood. Everybody know what I mean. They didn't put it in the dictionary. Like the shits? They had to put it in the dictionary. Oh, it's in the urban. No, bralic is not a real word and I did not know that until I went and tried to type it today after the Times article. Getting rid of the line. Nigga.

Starting point is 00:57:55 Yo, you know I know I'm getting the whole spell check don't even understand what I'm trying to write. Oh, me either, yeah. It's my ops. They don't even get what I'm, they don't help me no more. It's fun. Just my ops. They don't even get what I'm they don't help me no more Term is not a word We think the hood is bigger than what it is apparently Mesomorphically chiseled buff muscular

Starting point is 00:58:25 diesel miss a morphically chiseled that's so smart neither if Frazier had his education fund Shit. I don't think you ever. Uh. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he I'm just taking your call, man. Anyhow, what do you think overall though about the album? I didn't love it like I've loved the last five or so Tyler projects, but I still enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I'm with you. It's not the last, I would say, what, Igor? We listened to Chromacopia at the lake. My niece was playing it probably because she was hyped to see this. That album was fucking incredible.

Starting point is 00:59:26 I went back to that album a couple weeks ago, getting ready for the tour, so I've just been listening to a bunch of Tyler. That album was incredible. I do fuck with this album though. Me too. I really fuck with it. I just got to figure out

Starting point is 00:59:38 where he wanted me to fuck with this at, right? I put it on in the gym first, which was a mistake. Yeah, no, this is not. I could have fucked with it in the gym today. Oh, no, nah. That NWA shit I just heard, you good? Nah. That shit is nice and up tempo, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:59:52 Nah, that's what I thought too. That 100 miles and running, you good? I put that shit on in the gym and it was, for me it wasn't helping my workout. Because you kept thinking about some gay shit. No, you can't listen to the club. You can't put up no weight while you're thinking about some gay jokes.

Starting point is 01:00:08 Doing the cleaning jerk. Yo, here we go, the snatch. And with the fucking tight ass. As I was about to say, you had them little shorts on. Halo workout shorts. They not even showing your dick print. They showing your balls. So now it just looks like you in the gym with a camel, a dude camel.

Starting point is 01:00:26 So yeah, they're showing your balls. So you started writing the gay jokes in your head and then you looked in the mirror and you were like, oh shit. I gotta cut this off. I turned that shit off. Wait, maybe I relate. Let me put a child in there.

Starting point is 01:00:37 Then I went to turn it on. Then I went to turn it on. Like when I was starting my day, getting the shower and shit, I was like, nah. This is way too impressive too. Not gonna work. I just gotta figure out he wanted me to hear that shit at the rave or some shit at the sound factory. I gotta figure out where he wanted me to get into this bag.

Starting point is 01:00:56 I put it on in the drive. Howie music bruh. Oh see I don't drive. Alright y'all are driving. Yeah that's what I'm saying. You should start driving. Okay. Oh see I don't drive, alright. Y'all are driving. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. You should start driving. Okay.

Starting point is 01:01:06 Y'all got a lot of nice toys out there you should drive. Yeah. Drive us crazy. No I can't afford nice toys. We saw them. The boy you came in and sat all the keys on the table. Remember? Colorful already.

Starting point is 01:01:18 You got some new keys? You said all the keys yeah? No I heard you got new keys. I don't have new keys. And you put the keys right there too. Remember? Flag. You separated them, too. It's like the whole map of Europe.

Starting point is 01:01:27 Yeah. I'm telling you, bro. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Color coordinator. Couple of things, man. You know? Yo, just throw me that orange.

Starting point is 01:01:36 You see, he tried to make it. People, let me just say this. Cool. He tries to make this face, like to try to not encourage me to keep going. But today, today for the first time, you may see a lot of cuts, you may see me come outside, go outside, come back in with a different expression.

Starting point is 01:01:53 Today is the day that we push the line today. He does this thing where he look at me, and like when he turn his head, like nigga, shut up. Nah, not today. Not today at all. You want it? Kinda, kinda. Just wanted to support my man, that's all. And I need that support, so thank you.

Starting point is 01:02:09 You're welcome. Thank you for that, I appreciate that. I think you'd be a little more supportive, a little more jolly, because when you do that, it look like, you know, Pop's called, hey, yo, Flip doing that shit again? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I got 20 million reasons to be jolly.

Starting point is 01:02:20 Wow. Pretty good. Nah, pretty good. Here's nigga. Couple more. Like, way more? Like way more. Way more. Niggas you probably is. It's gonna say that no matter what. That's not true.

Starting point is 01:02:29 It's gonna say that no matter what. That's not true. You think he knows some shit. He do know you. Okay. He know you. You know what is funny, real quick. It's funny watching everybody else react to you now though.

Starting point is 01:02:43 Yeah you might get some IOU now. If that was your thing that you wanted to. Not looking for that. I love my baby. No, I ain't talking about him. I love my baby. I'm talking about your peers. And I believe in marriage. That's funny now.

Starting point is 01:02:55 Good answer. He really believes in marriage. Hey, yo, Mark. Before next April 15th, huh? Oh, no doubt about it. Hey, hey, I'ma tell you who's gonna be married before April 15th. Oh, no doubt about it. Hey, I'ma tell you who's gonna be married before April 15th. The more he believe in marriage.

Starting point is 01:03:11 No, I believe in marriage. I know, it's very smart. Very smart. What were we talking about? Just you. Tyler. Tyler. Just in mind with you.

Starting point is 01:03:21 Get looking good. Thank you. Yeah, Tyler. Well, last week also, Ra Kwan's album came out. That was new clothes. Yeah, which is a solid album. I enjoyed it. I heard some extreme takes on the album.

Starting point is 01:03:33 Like, this is the greatest album ever, and it's the worst album ever. Neither is true. I think it's a slightly above average album, and it's really enjoyable. And I also like the fact that it's licensed. It's a deal with Mass Appeal Records through His company Mass Appeals put out a whole string of

Starting point is 01:03:48 Albums over the next couple of years with a lot of the legends like Rick has a new one out Mark Premier No, it's got one coming out So just keep an eye out on these new records because there's a lot of OG rappers is putting out good music projects I just want to shout them out, too That's a fun. Yeah at some point I'd like to discuss how the older rappers seem to be kicking all the younger rappers Rappers his ass and I think this might be the first time in hip-hop history where that's a fact. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie Rapping I listen to a quality new albums from people who I like like younger

Starting point is 01:04:19 Maybe 20s and early 30s rappers on the way at 10 hours of road times weekend And then I put on Rayquan, which is a good album. It's not like some spectacular. It's solid maybe 20s, early 30s rappers on the way. I had 10 hours of road time this weekend. And then I put on Rayquan, which is a good album. It's not like some spectacular, it's solid. But it was immediately apparent of like good rapping versus what today's version of good rapping is. Bro, that Clips album might have really been a pivot that hip hop needs, I think. That shit was a real cultural moment.

Starting point is 01:04:46 I ain't gonna hold you. Yeah, yes. You disagree? I think it was a cultural moment. I don't think it's gonna pivot anything. Yeah, I think that. I wish it would, but I don't have faith in that happening. Yeah, I don't have, not at all.

Starting point is 01:04:57 We'll see. I think the pivot started even before that. I think they might be the climax of it, but you are gonna have to figure out a way to make your food last. And it's always good to be able to lean on cultural equity and not just that, I don't wanna say any names and insult people, but just that. I don't even think we have to speak in quotes.

Starting point is 01:05:21 I think that just being good at what you do, we live in a meritocracy? Unfortunately, and if you want to have a long career in music or in media or in Performing or anything like hone on your craft and get really fucking good at it man Look as much as I don't rely on tricks go ahead cut your from sorry much as I love this clips album You know pushes my guy nothing against them. This album was master class in marketing. How to properly roll out and market your album. Because there's been people that's been rapping at good quality, putting out good music,

Starting point is 01:05:53 they just ain't been heard. This is independent. So they went and did they thing and got the album in front of the people they needed to get the album in front of. They did the work. They did. That's what I've been preaching up here for weeks now. No, they did.

Starting point is 01:06:07 But what I'm saying is there are albums that are as good or better than this album that did not do the work so people didn't hear them. But it's a combination of the two. Because if they did all of the work, if they went and sat in front of all of the platforms and they did all that shit and the product wasn't good, that shit's going to land on deaf ears. I don't give a fuck how many couches you sit on, how many desks you go talk to in front of the people.

Starting point is 01:06:29 If the quality of the album was trash, that shit ain't gonna hit like it hit. But that's what I wanted to add to your point, Freeze, because a lot of people have talked about the master class of a rollout. They did. It's been, and how to market. But it's also been a master class in how not to market, right?

Starting point is 01:06:46 Like they were really intentional with where they sat, why they sat there, who that audience was, and who was getting this message. I know the people they skipped. And you could clearly see why they are skipping these places versus the normal rollout of a publicist trying to get their act in front of all eyes in the world. Back in my day, they was talking about someone, Sarita was bringing me to some websites I

Starting point is 01:07:13 didn't want to talk to. She'd be like, oh, they get this amount of clicks and this amount of impressions and this amount we have to sit there like. Why? Why? Who are these people? Who is this audience? Who am I even talking to? So they were just extra intentional. Yeah. But they could do that as independent. But even in interviews, bro,

Starting point is 01:07:30 dem niggas have a way of- And I'm not gonna keep calling them independent either. They likable, B. They are. Even when you go sit down, like they are performing- I'm talking to him. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, no, they are performing. They are likable. But they are independent. The way they speak to people, all of that stuff, they just likable men. And so I think that plays a part into people wanting to hear their music too. How are they independent? They're independent with the distribution,

Starting point is 01:07:52 which now looks not independent. How are they independent with the distribution? You own all your shit, you sign a distribution deal that still keeps you indie? Yeah, you're still technically independent. Okay, y'all doing that Chance the Rapper shit. Y'all know Roc Nation now is acting as a one-stop shop after they purchased the every arm

Starting point is 01:08:14 that they need to act that way. To be clear, most of the big distributors are, though. So I understand what you're saying. Are what? Most of the, like the Empires and shit, they've been moving like major labels for a decade. For a long time. So you view, and I don't want to do real,

Starting point is 01:08:30 but you all view what? Empires doing the same as what Roc Nation is doing. It's similar, it's very similar. It's very similar. Maybe different relationships, but very similar. It's different in that Roc Nation has And that's why they're coming out. Vertical or whatever integration, they have management,

Starting point is 01:08:44 they have live venues. It's different, for sure. And that don't sound like it depends to me, but. I get what you're saying. Apples and oranges, they have amazing albums. Do they own the shit? Did they pay for the creation of it? Well, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:09:01 Eclipse is your saying. Yeah. Yeah. Which I was under the impression they did. Maybe I'm wrong, but if they did those things, then I think that that's interesting. They did, and I don't think. Eclipse is your thing. Yeah. Yeah. Which I was under the impression they did. Maybe I'm wrong. But if they did those things, then I think that that's it. I don't think they were able to walk away from Def Jam with that album. Right.

Starting point is 01:09:12 But you leave, okay, cool, but this is ours. Right. And you go and restart from scratch and build whatever over there. All right. Maybe I'm a hater. I'm not calling Eclipse independent. Because when we sat there and said hey, how did when hey How did you get away from Def Jam in that moment?

Starting point is 01:09:29 they looked at Steve and Victor over here who has all the clout and cache and Relationship strength that one would need and if he needed to just write a quick six million dollar check if he did that Then he could do that. Well, I is that. While I agree with you and I'm with you I also don't like taking away from independence because they did a really fucking good job. Yeah that's what that I mean like I think we should normalize independence looking and operating really fucking well and functional. I got the right people around me. As opposed to finding a loophole like oh it's not quite independent because Jay-Z's there. It's like, oh, I mean, is it or is it not?

Starting point is 01:10:07 Like, just because they did a good job doesn't make it not independent. That's a good point. That's a good point. I don't have anything for that. No, that's a good point. Yeah, that was a good point. And I don't want to sound like I'm shit on clips

Starting point is 01:10:19 because I just love it. Yeah, I'm not shit on them either. I love what they're doing. Independent, not independent. It's great, and I hope the trend continues of. I think it was that freedom. What I was speaking to more so is that freedom to be able to, yo, we going here, here, here

Starting point is 01:10:32 comes from being independent. Got it. That's true too. Otherwise you get what was happening to you. Hey, go sit over here. I don't wanna go sit there. Well, go sit over there. In a relationship with them, yeah.

Starting point is 01:10:43 Yeah, I can't say they're not independent because they have Stephen Victor and Pharrell and Jay-Z. Yeah, that's- They just have those relationships. Relationships. They just did a good job. They did a good job. Right, so just a good time to be independent.

Starting point is 01:10:54 There you go. Right. It sure is a good time. Isn't it a good time to be independent? I'm just saying. You know you independent. You missed the super chat. I don't know what you're talking about, man.

Starting point is 01:11:02 You missed it. You are missing the super chat. Oh, nigga, super chat. Dolly, dolly, dolly, my baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, enough about I don't know what you're talking about man. You missed it, you are missing the super chat. Oh, like a super chat. Dolly, dolly, dolly, my baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, enough about Noah, you know what's happening. Anytime you're in a fan prayer,

Starting point is 01:11:11 brother, show us something. Yeah, let's talk about how much money Mark is making. I don't make no money. Prize licks. Prize licks. I know how much money Mark making, because he ain't slept in a month. That let you know what's going on.

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Starting point is 01:13:14 So good luck to all participants out there and run your game. All right. Back to Tyler. I'm not sure if we was finished with him. Yeah, I don't know if we were. A lot of people are saying that they hate it. I don't think this is a middle ground album. Like either, like I said at the start, either you're gonna really like it

Starting point is 01:13:35 or you're gonna absolutely hate it. And it really just depends on when you got introduced to Tyler's music. Yeah, agreed. Like if you're a new Tyler fan and you like that sound that he's been on and then you hear this, I'm like, what the fuck is this? I absolutely hate it, right? Yeah, I think my little sister who I'm just learning is a huge Tyler fan is gonna love this project

Starting point is 01:13:52 I think this project does a good job of like like you said frees them. When did you meet this guy? Mm-hmm, like his fan base is kind of All over the place. This album made me go back to Vince Staples' album. There's one more album this album made me go back to. Fuck, I'm trying to find it. But yeah, he was in, nothing, he was in the back. Yeah, I enjoyed that one. I like different shit, I like when artists

Starting point is 01:14:19 try to be different, even if it don't all the way hit with me, again, some of that first half of this project was like maybe too rich for my taste yeah but the second half I like some of that shit I do shout to Tyler shout to the Tyler fan base Tyler's come a long way from the him and Khaled feud which for me with every passing day becomes the junior the junior whopper version of 50 and Kanye mm-hmm yeah like Khaled was hating. Khaled was they yeah Khaled was they he was in that mm-hmm but to look at where Tyler comes from from that is like he's got to feel like

Starting point is 01:14:56 like the clips feel like y'all throwing up my name in with some of these pop acts and some of these people with all the backing in the world is like that's a compliment within itself mm-hmm What's the projection of his album? Tyler's got good numbers. I don't know. I would guess 150 plus for sure. Yeah. Short week. Don't, I don't care. 150 on the low end. 150 is impressive though. I was about to say 200.

Starting point is 01:15:21 150 on the low end. But it's a short week. What did you say? What is a short week? No, I said this is a short week. So I think that the real tale will be if the second week is going to stay steady. They're just going to have two amazing strong weeks. Anybody know the projections for the clips second week?

Starting point is 01:15:37 No idea. Well, the second week should be out on the clips. Yeah, it should. Yeah, the second week should be out on Eclipse. Absolutely. I ain't that bad with time. I know they had six records on the Billboard 200. Chromacopia did 299.

Starting point is 01:15:51 That's what I'm saying. 150 is the low end of this. Oh, it might do something, yeah, my bad. The album before that did crazy numbers. Yeah, my bad, Tyler. Yeah, I think you probably cracked two something. Yeah. God damn. Don't let them, I bet. Yeah. I think you probably cracked to some Don't let him add bundles or

Starting point is 01:16:13 I'm gonna have a vital look fire. Yeah, the clear body and I like the imagery I like that boy shit with the with the chain and I like it videos fire, too I'm still mad that I was working when when Tyler did that show over there that I wanted to go to oh Yeah, yeah, I just had a tough week. Come on. And I'm mad, because Yachty invited me to that fucking show months ago. You gotta roll with us on that, man. The one other day.

Starting point is 01:16:32 I'm not here Sunday. Oh shit. No, it's... I'm taking my family to Turks. Yeah, damn. I'm not here. Yeah. Rich shit, right?

Starting point is 01:16:41 I'll get on FaceTime with you. I wouldn't know. Only Turks I've seen was at Thanksgiving. Everybody here is taking a trip with their family but me. No, Turks is the part that's the rich part. Yeah, Turks. I wouldn't know nothing about that. I didn't even know what it was.

Starting point is 01:16:53 You took a trip with your family. I had to Google it. We going to Jamaica. Don't let the Times article change how y'all. You have taken mad trips to Portugal and all of the white hoods. Oh yeah, south of France. He was on a yacht. Can, Maldives.

Starting point is 01:17:03 Can, a mafia coast. I don't know how to say this shit. You was there. All the way to the US. He was on a yacht. Can. Mildoc. Can. A mafia coast. I don't know how to say this shit. You was there? Yeah, don't come here. We saw this shit with the water underneath the whole,

Starting point is 01:17:11 we saw all that you showed us. Flip, you definitely been to Jones Beach with your family. Oh shit. You've been to fucking, what's that beach in Long Island? Nigga, it's that Rob Playland. I got it. You've been to Coney Island. You've been to all the islands with your family. For my family, right? Crack that nigga, Flip. I used to be in the Atlantic City. I I

Starting point is 01:17:30 Spent the Atlantic City with where I spent, Pennsylvania You niggas have been on trip with your family. This is my first time. I take my family. Yeah, watch fucking Yo, since my two little brothers have been out there my dad and his wife have been in Atlantic City every little chance to get like birds. They did right now. I believe you. You call me out there. Where your brothers at? They at school.

Starting point is 01:17:53 Already? Well, they doing the- Summer program. Summer program. EOF or whatnot. Three weeks where you learn the school. Yeah, okay. I don't know, I don't know. But yeah, they out of there.

Starting point is 01:18:01 So my dad is in Atlantic City. He is a fucking thot yo His wife keep grabbing the phone. So my chow is on the boardwalk looking at ass Hey at his age, that's what you're supposed to do. Sorry jackie facts. Love you his age My mom's okay. She called me those dates on so so I showed your dad and Jackie how to hear the podcast over the phone. I was like, well, how was they listening to it? She's like, I don't know, I didn't ask.

Starting point is 01:18:33 I did, mom, yeah. Oh, my parents are sick. Anyway, Tyler, congrats. Word, congratulations, man. You in your bag. Gay niggas, congrats. Do we think anything who's talking stupid um Possibly a reach, but do we do it go ahead? Yeah?

Starting point is 01:18:53 Ask I'm gonna ask anyway Do we think he's um trying to start up to start a pot a little bit with this with the new video we dropped Okay since you asked I'll share something that- Girl, I wasn't gonna say nothing. I'll share something that only I believe. I haven't asked anybody about this. I don't care what anybody else thinks about it. I think that every feature on the Clips album

Starting point is 01:19:22 is together in one thought. Oh, I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised. And nobody said that, but they all are aligned in, in one way in principle. Some of them may not say it, but every one of them, nah, that's all that's. That's my whole thinking. I don't shit rattle on what I know for real. But yeah, that's what I think. So that's it.

Starting point is 01:19:51 So if you're saying that, falls in line. I'm not going to do that because. For those who don't know what I'm speaking to, Tyler also put the video out for Stop Playing With Me. And the video reminds me of Kendrick's squabble up video, just from the layout. It looks like it. Empty room. It looks like it.

Starting point is 01:20:11 You know, just he had two speakers there, some stuff going on, and he's standing there rapping in the middle of the screen. And then at one moment, LeBron and Mav pop up next to him. Mav Ricardo, yes. Mav Ricardo. Not Mav Hoffa. Sound like you and Mav pop up next to him. Mav Ricardo, yes. Mav Ricardo. Not Mav Hoffa. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:20:28 Sound like you said Mav. You know your voice. Mav. You know your voice is ugly. Oh, well. What you want me to do? And then in the next scene, the clips pop up next to him. While he's rapping.

Starting point is 01:20:39 And some more Louie. The clips don't run out of no Louie shit. No, they don't. They ain't. They ain't not running out. They ain't. No, not at all. They ain't slowing down. They got custom shit everywhere.

Starting point is 01:20:49 A video is cool, how when you liked it, it did like its own emoji shit on it. I never seen that before. Oh no, that's been happening. Yeah, they do that, like Father's Day, all holidays. If you like certain teen tweets and shit, it'll pop up. They do that when you like it.

Starting point is 01:21:03 Yeah, they got that on Sam's phone. Oh, okay. It'll pop up. They do that when you like it. Yeah, they got that on Samsung. I wouldn't know. But I was just wondering which I you know thought about it. Old rappers kicking these young rappers ass. That's Tyler, that's the clips. The old rappers, this is the only time in history where this is true. And he went crazy on that clip shit. In such a predatory business. Niggas don't be giving him the real, he went nuts on that clip shit.

Starting point is 01:21:34 Oh yeah, his verses fire. He did go nuts, but the clips on POV to me, both of those verses are in verse of the year talks. Both of them. Pusha and Malice. And I got malice verse on FICO up there that's my malice verse on FICO that's the best verse on the album and malice verse on FICO and malice verse on FICO and I got malice verse on so far yeah all right we gonna keep staying on that now and meek on the Friday, but outside of me, it's been malice. That push versus tough to me. I ain't gonna hold you though. I'm not, not enough is being said about it because of how niggas feel about

Starting point is 01:22:13 Jim, but all I see is 68 star 20 year thousand years. And then the rhyme, the whole verse with thousand years pushes a different, yo, I ain't gonna hold you. Yeah, I'm saying that as an MC. Listen to that. Oh my God. That's not the easiest rhyme. Nobody would know MC would pick thousand thousand air to do this whole verse. Rapper is just a headache. It's just a headache. I'm leaving that. He stayed there. Yeah you know you do you do network niggas

Starting point is 01:22:49 Get these 5,500 hosting niggas out of here. Yeah, and anytime the clips drop the beat out somebody die Both of them push and malice. Yeah when the beat drop out a shot is heard around the earth When the beat drop out a shot is heard around the earth Get these 50 that's how I feel about you these niggas are showing up anywhere just doing You talking about us get these 5500 hosting niggas Yeah, yeah, cuz they be popping up like they big shit. They got you are there for some Twizzlers And that's a some Twizzlers. That's a lot of Twizzlers.

Starting point is 01:23:27 Nigga. Hey, I don't know, fuck you talking about. Show out his fucking mouth. That's a lot of Twizzlers. $5500 for the Twizzlers. I can do a lot, I can get a lot of Twizzlers. Yeah. All right, it's a trap.

Starting point is 01:23:37 No, it ain't no trap. It's just levels. It's a trap to make me sound elitist. You're not on that level, you over there. No, no, no, you're not. I don't even take it that way. You say you're on a trap. I'm going to do a $5500 host, though. I'm gonna take it out right now. I'm gonna do a bunch of them. It depends on what it's like. But you also gonna walk like... If it's local? Like you took the $5,500 hosting is what I'm saying.

Starting point is 01:23:55 I'm not shitting on that. Nigga, my hosting was for less than that. Don't let me get to talking. I'm saying... You forgot that though. No, I did not those that forget it Don't you don't talk like those that forget it doing to repeat? I ain't forget a goddamn soccer toe over there, bro I didn't forget this in the 50 500 niggas shit on this right? No, no, no, no, no Mark I was in Newark this morning for free. I'm out here just, you know what I mean? That's because you love the kids. That's the love. But what about the other one? That's the freedom program.

Starting point is 01:24:27 What about the other one though? We know how much you, we know how much you- That's turkey sausage. You know how much you get for- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Kings, kings, turkey sausage, eggs. I know what you did, yeah. But it did sound good.

Starting point is 01:24:37 Yeah. We know how much- And with that shirt on, it's all confusing. We know how much you make when it's speaking engagements. We know you- Yeah, we do. I know, but you're probably in F6s and shit. That's not about me, no. It's about you, nigga.

Starting point is 01:24:50 We know how much you make for them. And speaking engagements is coming back, right? Why are black people so ashamed to be doing good? I'm proud to be doing good. Because we come from a place where when you're doing too good, you walk in the house and somebody tied up. Pretty much.

Starting point is 01:25:04 We're just not doing good like you. We can't shoot them to 55, because we try to do the 55. You know what I'm saying? I don't think it's not in your future. I don't think what I'm doing is far-fetched for anybody in here to do. Actually, I should be the reason that people have more hope

Starting point is 01:25:28 that they could do that, I think. That's how I feel. We're inspired. I agree. I know y'all don't care, but in the 90s, when I grew up, this was unimaginable. You know what you gotta put in your thing? No, I understand.

Starting point is 01:25:38 When I come from, you couldn't convince somebody else that there was a way that you could get to that. So it's cute while we looking back in hindsight, but in the process, like. Yo, you know, Paul Pierce told Shorty, man, you go with them words. You gotta put that in there. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:25:57 You go with the words. He is good with the words. That boy will pivot and get him off his stuff. Right. No, play, boys. You're making sofa. Right. Don't play, boy. I pay all the taxes, nigga. If y'all wanna sit here and talk about me for hours, I'm cool.

Starting point is 01:26:11 There's nothing they could do. They took it already. Wow. I mean, stop playing with the people, man. You can do a lot of shit. They can do a lot of shit. Yeah, they can. Yeah, but they took y'all shit too, right?

Starting point is 01:26:23 We don't make enough from take our shit. Probably paying out. Yeah, I get a refund. I get a refund. I get a refund. I be loving me, man. I get a little bit back. Yo, all right, go ahead.

Starting point is 01:26:33 Go ahead and play. I'm gonna let y'all play. Where we at? All right, Tyler, congratulations. Congratulations, Tyler. Congratulations. What else, what else, what else? Do you think he, real quick on Tyler,

Starting point is 01:26:43 do you think he incorporates any of this into a show now? Oh, yeah, Jared Carmichael Are you crazy? I think he probably does that's why he made the announcement at the show They probably already got the stage show and all that shit worked out to incorporate don't touch the glass Jared Gerard You can't get none of this. That was, he played him so bad that day on that shit, man. You ought to do that on somebody HBO reality show. Right, somebody else's show.

Starting point is 01:27:12 Still one of my greatest Tyler moments is him on Flex. That's the best one. Oh, that's the best thing ever. That's the best one. Him on Flex with the gay bars. Flex looks so befuddled. That shit was amazing. Whoa.

Starting point is 01:27:21 I was like, whoa. Butt sex. Flexed it all out looking confused and then laid on the table for the acupuncture nigga and posted the pictures laying on his stomach with some niggas standing behind him. Joe's different. Wait, what's wrong with that?

Starting point is 01:27:35 Nothing. Posse. Nothing. Oh, that's your bag? On Thursday, I'm getting one tomorrow, Thursday. You're not getting. Lipo? No, he got Lipo.

Starting point is 01:27:44 Acupuncture. Joe said it wrong. He got Lipo. It's Lipo. Oh, no, I'm not getting light bulb no he got light sure Joe said it wrong Yeah, you got little lines on your forehead. They gotta touch you up. That nigga's forehead is not budget. That nigga's shit is standing there. Hey yo, and some of y'all bitches out there that I love, your faces don't move no more. And I think that y'all just think that niggas is stupid so we don't see. We see, we just don't say nothing.

Starting point is 01:28:20 So now our beef, we got somehow past the lip injections. Your face ain't moving. I didn got somehow past the lip injections. Your face ain't, I didn't get past the lip injections. No, what I'm saying is there's more beefs, I never thought there could be. Y'all face don't budge no more, and we saying funny stuff. Y'all laughing like,

Starting point is 01:28:40 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Your lip don't move. Whatever y'all, that doctor, that Botox, and them yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Your lip don't move. Whatever, y'all. That doctor, that Botox, and them fillers, and them bundle packages, slow it the fuck down. Bitch, you 23. That's the death part. You're not even old enough for this shit.

Starting point is 01:28:56 You didn't even grow to your features yet, girl. Yeah, seriously. Oh my god. Anyway. Any news? Anything else in music? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. No.

Starting point is 01:29:10 Well, I want... See, look, I'm getting mad texts. Thank you for the inspiration. Yo, keep going, yo, you can... This is like a, this is dope. Can I just hold something, please? I'm reading the other texts. Thanks for the inspiration.

Starting point is 01:29:24 Yeah, I see that. I'm saying to let me hold something, please. It's my man right there. Call me back, cuz. Call me back, cuz. Call me back, cuz. Call me back. That Family Reunion gonna hit this year. What?

Starting point is 01:29:36 No, it's not, he ain't gonna be there. And I'm gonna be there, yes I am gonna be there. Here he goes. I'm not gonna miss that for the world. Shorty in there? Who is Shorty, my baby? I love you baby, and I believe in marriage. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 01:29:45 Huh? No. Family reunion. Hey! It's a family reunion. I'm only 40 short from the down payment on the condo. Ish, when you going to get a family reunion? I got one coming up, actually.

Starting point is 01:30:02 Hey! Are you going though? I paid to go. But are you going though? Both of my sides paws are black. But are you going? I'm going to try. Where is it at? It's not going.

Starting point is 01:30:18 I'm going to try. Not paid? That ain't going to do it. No the paid is the hour. That's the hour. You can be like, I paid, I tried. Yeah. You ain't lose no money on me.

Starting point is 01:30:29 I paid. Get the fuck out of here, homie. I'm Catherine still trying to make me buy some pigs. Wait. They like, they ain't even Catherine Manley. One of y'all is trying to make me buy some pigs. Somebody, Joe ain't coming. He can pay for the pigs and the beverages.

Starting point is 01:30:42 Oh, for sure. You gotta get the pig. Yeah. It ain't coming. He can pay for the pigs and the beverages. Oh, for sure. You gotta get the pig. Yeah. It ain't no down south family reunion without no pig on the, on the whole. Big. Yeah. Roast the hog in the heart of the whole with the apple on his face. Peel that skin right off. That's just good eating right there.

Starting point is 01:31:02 Your phone going off. This nigga nosy as hell. Hey y'all this nigga be sitting up high. This nigga is defense bro. He is the worst person to be sitting up high. I see. That nigga is defense bro. I just live, I stay quiet. I respect that you can shit all. You can just shit all nigga.

Starting point is 01:31:20 All that shit you say to that nigga. I don't got it. Nah nigga. You got it. Them nigga, you got it. Themselves you be saying it? I didn't even know they had limits. This shit unlimited. Nigga be doing the face shit. Yo this nigga is a idiot bro.

Starting point is 01:31:34 I'm like, I'm lying. That's why I wanted to dead you on that 500 nigga. I'm not giving you that. Who asked you to do a bread bag nigga? This nigga is a fool bro. He keep saying you dead on that. No I made it. He paid you? I paid that actually yeah. He can keeps saying, you dead on that. No, I made it. Oh, you made it?

Starting point is 01:31:45 I made it. I had to, yeah. He kept saying, no, you dead on that. No, you dead. It's when you go to your family reunion, you like to star? He don't go. This is a star.

Starting point is 01:31:53 He don't go everywhere. He don't go. That's true. I mean, he may be, and let Breezy pull up. Oh, shit. I can't wait for these niggas to be there. Yo, nigga, you cussing. That's my problem.

Starting point is 01:32:01 You wasn't supposed to start eating sugar again before your family reunion. You should've pulled a pop-up on niggas with your new non-sugar body. You're doing good. You dropped man weights. We thought you was on the, I thought you, I still think you were on the Zempi.

Starting point is 01:32:13 I'm about to go back. I was worried he was on the pipe. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Wait, wait, wait. Let me see the side of your teeth. Hunter Biden said that's good. That's true.

Starting point is 01:32:21 Yo, this nigga said the pipe. Hunter Biden said it's good. That Hunter Biden interview is fire, by the way. I got an ice-eating chair, I'm so mad. He did not compliment the pipe. Oh, he talked about how fire was, yeah. I'm telling you. He's an addict.

Starting point is 01:32:32 Yeah. I was. He said that when you cook it, you're lying. You're burning off all the impurities. Yeah. So he was breaking it down. I don't like that that's the only part that gets highlighted. I don't, that's all I need to answer.

Starting point is 01:32:44 I don't. You are lying, to your point. What. I don't. That's all I need to see. You are lying to your point. What he said to say. It's really, it's a really good interview. No, this ain't no rumor. This is an interview. It's a clip. It's an interview.

Starting point is 01:32:52 It's like a three hour interview. It's crazy. What? Yeah, I can't believe that. What? That you're the son of a former president talking about how to. Listen, I sat there and thought, I wish that he would have been running for some office, cause he was keeping it bad real in that interview.

Starting point is 01:33:08 He might win. I haven't seen the apartment put me on, I'ma watch it tonight. We might need some more people in recovery in the office. I'ma fucking sell some troops up there. Relate to the masses. That too, knock down. You're gonna watch that, you're gonna be like,

Starting point is 01:33:22 oh shit, I gotta fuck with a dude. Hey, the funny shit right now is to see the people that voted for Trump, how they cry. Yo, they be talking so soft. They be talking so soft. Yo, they so humble. The ones that sold their souls to vote for him after their family's getting grabbed up and their moms and shit.

Starting point is 01:33:40 One dude. Somebody up here. One dude just cut Canada, wouldn't let him come back, I mean, he wouldn't come back in the country, he went to Canada. Oh shit. He was in the United States since he was three. And he was, you know, he go back and forth to Canada.

Starting point is 01:33:52 So he had a weed charge and another charge that got dismissed. They wouldn't let him back in America. On a weed charge? They was like, yo, and it got dismissed. Yo, they was like, sorry. He was like, you know what made me mad about these Trump niggas? You know, he was talking like this, you know, I used to be with them, but yeah, it's a little too much.

Starting point is 01:34:16 What made me mad about the Trump niggas? And I'm with y'all. They look dumb now trying to backpedal and backtrack. Yeah. But listening to them do that, what makes me angry is in the event that they were right, Trump comes in and gives the country together. Right? I don't know what percentage, why I don't know percentage wise how likely they thought that was, but they clearly thought it was like. They bought into the idea. They clearly thought it was like, cool. That to the side.

Starting point is 01:34:48 If they are wrong, then this great this evil bigot of a man had practice already now. See the first term, dog, I'm just in here learning my way around. I'm just, hey, and by the end of that term, them niggas should've knew that he gained some traction because he was talking about voter suppression

Starting point is 01:35:19 and had niggas rushing the polls. So that tell you that he gained some power like Thanos and the first time it was just looking around at You so now you give this idiot experience So that mean from day Pre day one. I'm on bullshit the first day Before he got any put that pin to work So it's like dog y'all asked for this y'all asked for like the worst possible version of a monster you know what he did an experienced monster who knows way around your crib now with a team of monsters cuz he is yeah cuz

Starting point is 01:35:52 he is charismatic and all that shit what he did was he convinced them that his successor after the last term fucked it up and made it worse mm-hmm that's what they bought at. And he played in identity politics. What you're doing right now is Washington commander shit, right? He's doing the same thing again. He's jumping up. My football team. Yeah, that is your team, isn't it?

Starting point is 01:36:13 No, that nigga's not a Steelers fan. No, you're a Steelers fan. I told y'all. He's all over the map. I give you a few. Aaron Rodgers came to Pittsburgh, I'm going to Washington. But go ahead. You should just come to Philly.

Starting point is 01:36:22 You're already a Sixers fan. Go. But no, I mean, Donald Trump made made a statement one of his speeches, right? You know saying that he's basically ordering Josh Harris, who's the owner of the Sixers, who's now the owner of the Redskins or the Commanders to change the name of the team. He's like get it done. Change the name back to the Redskins. Which is particularly interesting because there's always a tweet for everything. If you look at Donald Trump, maybe five years ago, he had a tweet when they were about to change the name

Starting point is 01:36:47 from the Redskins saying presidents should mind their own business and not get involved in the renaming of the Washington football team. That's before he gained his power. That's before he got experience. None of the rules apply to me. And half the shitty say, if you look hard enough on Twitter or some social media platform,

Starting point is 01:37:07 he has contradicted himself in the past. Yeah, that was bitch. That was bitch. It was sweet. Scary, man. Yeah, but now, right, it's just tough to believe that the Colbert shit, because that report came out,

Starting point is 01:37:22 they said that the late night show with Colbert was losing money 40 and 50 and 60 million dollars and That and that was the reason and it's not because Paramount and Sunscape or whatever this shit needs approval But now here we are with him openly Trump threatening to not give approval to Washington for the stadium, for the new stadium.

Starting point is 01:37:47 And we know that that's important. We know that's important to them. So it's like he's just in there thugging whoever need to get into what he wants to do. And I'm gonna keep it real with you. It's like the schoolhouse bully, he'd have knocked enough people out that they scared of him. The Republicans don't rock with him like that. They scared of him though, yeah. Yeah. He's beat up enough people where they are really scared. The Republicans don't rock with him like that. They scared of him though, yo.

Starting point is 01:38:05 He's beat up enough people where they are really scared. Everybody folded. You got it. Everybody folded. I don't think they're gonna fold on the Washington thing because that horse is out the bar and you can't go back and rename a kid a team in the Reds. He probably could have stopped it from happening.

Starting point is 01:38:18 You can't, you could. I think that one's a little too high of a mountain. And I don't think he expects it. I think he just likes to always register that he was on the right side of the issue for those people who vote on that shit. Because I think Trump's long term vision is either to never leave the presidency. I think that. Or more like, or, but if he does leave and he will leave, because they're going to make

Starting point is 01:38:37 him to be in control of whoever's next by still controlling that base. That's the thing. And so whoever that next person is, Trump is still the leader. It's like when Putin left office a little bit in Russia, but was still in charge, it's gonna be like that. He's gonna be the voice behind the curtain. And that's how you do it, by playing with people's identity politics.

Starting point is 01:38:53 People, fuck the fact that I'm broke and poor, we're getting the Redskins back, you know, or he's putting the Mexicans in their place, or whoever it is. And the same thing happens. It's just diversion. Yeah, and Hunter talks about that. He's talking about the cycle of reconstruction

Starting point is 01:39:06 happening kind of all over again, but in a different way now. It's some deep shit in that interview. I hope people don't get distracted by the crack part. No, they are. They already are. That's the first thing I just brought up, but it's good shit in there.

Starting point is 01:39:18 Bruh, you sit there, you're the pipe. Never mind. Yo, you gotta get the good lighter, the bigs. The high flame. What you talking about? When you talk to former crack addicts, even the ones that are really off and clean, when you talk to them about crack,

Starting point is 01:39:37 their eyes light up, man. Bro, have you done it? No, this is. It's the way you said bro, that's where you're going. I talked to enough crack heads, heroin addicts. Only talk to them? Only talk to them? No, he dissed. It's the way you said bruh, that's where you was going. I talked to enough crackheads and heroin addicts. Only talked to him? Only talked to him. No, he got head from crackheads.

Starting point is 01:39:49 He was like- You said that before. You said- You got face off from a crackhead. He said that. You got face off from the fire one. I know which one you said. I know which one.

Starting point is 01:39:57 They had no teeth. They moved without the dentures too, man. Gummy. Now listen, Ish, a lot of niggas got, you know, they were slinging that outside. They had no teeth. They moved without the dentures too. Gummy. Now listen, a lot of niggas got, you know, they were slinging that outside. That's what you was doing? Yeah, no, we're talking about a lot of niggas

Starting point is 01:40:11 that was getting money, took some head from a crack head before. A lot of niggas. Real niggas had that fire crack head slash coke head on the roster for the late night Thursday head. Oh, terrible people. That's for the late night Thursday head

Starting point is 01:40:22 before the real joints come for the weekend. That's hey, that's what she was over there just chilling, playing like checkers or something. And you felt like getting some head like, you know what? Yeah, you know, you did. I can you. All right.

Starting point is 01:40:38 Terrible. That's when you do a little kickback in the living room and do the creep off upstairs with the crack. You come here from the stairs. Come on. You a little kickback in the living room and did the creep off upstairs with the crackhead. Yo, come here. You're from the stairs. Wait, the crackhead was in here? Yo, come up. Come up.

Starting point is 01:40:48 You had a kickback at the crib? Crackhead, cokehead? Yeah. Oh, cokehead. Crackhead slash cokehead. That's different. That's very different. It is different. Very different. Hey, Hunter, made that clear.

Starting point is 01:40:56 They both had a kickback. The crackhead shouldn't be in the crib. They both are. The crackhead isn't in the crib. The crackhead is shit. I'm in a crack house, man. Oh, please. You're outside.

Starting point is 01:41:04 He was talking about how all the celebrities and shit that was bragging about doing coke back in the 80s, like, they were doing crack. Yeah, my thing, he's always a crackhead. Something with free-basing, though, when they were at least getting... Free-basing is crack. It is. It's a higher quality, though, I'm just saying. It's crack.

Starting point is 01:41:17 Nice job. Nice job, Hunter Biden. That is levels to crackheads. Yes. Free-basing. That's what Whitney Houston from Jersey, whole point was. She said, I don't do crack. Ruin Bobby. Mm. Mm. Ruin poor Bobby. Yes, that's what Whitney Houston from Jersey whole point was Roaring Bobby

Starting point is 01:41:33 Roaring poor Bobby what a town one of our best black talents Whitney's whole point was I don't do nobody's nowhere Clive is still yeah, that's no point Yo, how much shit gotta happen before America says, hey, where is Clive Davis? He popped up, I was watching the Billy Joel doc on HBO, which is fire. Yeah, fire, I watched it too. Hey, he popped up in there. Yo, fucking Billy Joel. Billy Joel's a wild boy.

Starting point is 01:41:57 Fucked his best friend's wife. Married her. Married her, it was making songs about her. And then she was turned into a super exec, like she was managing all that shit. What I have to see it. You got you. She's fine. It's fine. It's amazing. I have to see it. Amazing. I've been wasting my time with these fucking missing girl docs like where's Jodie such and such or yeah. How do I keep

Starting point is 01:42:22 all of it? I click on that this shit where is Jodie such and such there's three fucking episodes an hour hour and a half they never found the shit out of fun I hate that that's what I hate oh yeah don't ask me where she is and you don't know I go to YouTube to watch the cold cases like 30 years I hate cold cases yeah I don't even watch Dateline when they solve it I watch the song what they saw YouTube they got the talking about when they solve it. I watched the solve one on YouTube. They got the solve one. They locked up a 94-year-old nigga too.

Starting point is 01:42:48 95-year-old black man from, I think in London. You know what I'm saying? He killed somebody back in the 60s. And then when they were talking to him, he was just like... Oh, fuck that. No comment. No, it was just fire. How you got away?

Starting point is 01:43:01 Nah, they got away, but it was fire. How they caught him. He just came and grabbed you when they locked him up for the crime Yeah They have some new they have some new DNA shit with they could you know, I'm killing myself I'm not doing a fucking stretch. No, don't kill yourself. You don't have to say that mad people listening Oh, sorry, first of all, he's like a trigger warning I don't want to trigger any of the ones who's holding a 30-year cold case and do what you want He did the crime in 60s

Starting point is 01:43:22 You know, it's somebody out there that committed a crime that he didn't get caught for, you know? Yeah. Who's been holding him for 30 years and they're in their 90s now? I'm going to say if I'm- Do you think that's unlikely? No, I'm saying if you're in your 90s,

Starting point is 01:43:33 I don't think that's a bad solution. Man, do you know how many- We can cut this out if I don't want to sound like I'm a crazy person. But I just, I feel like in your 90s, I'm not doing a bid in my 90s. I'll do whatever. I'll go out in a blaze of glory then.

Starting point is 01:43:43 But why? I want a perp walk At 90 which your Walker, huh? Yeah Yeah Put you somewhere decent that age that would be one of the hardest pictures in the universe me as a 95 year old perp walk Arrested spitting at the camera I gotta make a political statement Smiles You killed somebody

Starting point is 01:44:08 You mean our smiles? Look look look look at his eyes right now This thing is so stupid Y'all do both squint You still don't think you squint? No he don't Mark Every picture you take you squint Okay

Starting point is 01:44:24 Purposely though it don't look subtle He you squint. Okay. Yeah. The purpose though, it don't look subtle. Let me see boy. He's squinting curly. You can really squint. I did it again. You all squint now? You squint right now. You're an idiot bro.

Starting point is 01:44:32 You squintish. You only squint where the Botox went. My eyes open. Yeah. The rest of your face man, head movement. Yeah, cause he don't got no wrinkles. But your eyes just stay low. I got Botox.

Starting point is 01:44:42 He got no wrinkles or bags, neither boy. You got a little Botox, but boy it's okay. I got botox. He got no wrinkles or bags, neither, boy. You got a little botox before, it's okay. Let me see this. Whoa. This shit clean. Yo, move. Yeah, cause your forehead look 41. No way.

Starting point is 01:44:56 And you're not 41. You see what's wrong with niggas? Yo, you're an idiot. You're not 41, my G. People, I just wanna let you know, when people get exposed, they try to identify everything else in everybody else. So now he's going to point out how Mark had his fucking

Starting point is 01:45:09 forehead is not wrinkled. He's going to point out it's Botox. Chill out my nigga, we own you boys. Stop trying to switch it. You got some Jotox? I make jokes. I think everybody up here looks great. Any joke I make is being performed.

Starting point is 01:45:22 You trying to identify, no, I'm saying that you're trying to get the money up for next month. No, I'm trying to say you try to identify the money that niggas are spending to look good. Like Ish and his botox, like Mark and his botox. Oh no, none of y'all are investing in the bodies. That's a joke. None of y'all are taking the money and pouring it back into yourself. Not one of y'all are doing that.

Starting point is 01:45:39 Only you. Only you. Not one of y'all are doing that. He is fucking Joe LaLanne. Yo, get your fucking ass out He is fucking Joe LaLanne. Yo, get your fucking ass out of here. Joe LaLanne. Jack LaLanne?

Starting point is 01:45:50 You know what I mean with Jack LaLanne? Got you. This nigga here, boy. How is the workout going, though? So far so good, great. Are you like stepping it up in terms of intensity? I'm doing whatever the trainer says to do. That's as simple as it is for me.

Starting point is 01:46:02 OK. Whatever he is doing, I'm doing. I'm not asking questions. I'm just... So whatever weight he put on, all that shit, you don't ask nothing, you just do it? Yeah. That's smart. That's fine.

Starting point is 01:46:14 And if it's too heavy or too much... He lying, Corey? He lying? He didn't question the weight, though. He didn't lie. Well, because the trainer's a liar. The trainer's a liar. You're supposed to be...

Starting point is 01:46:22 He tell you something light under there, but there's more. They're not even supposed to look. I didn't know that. He tell you something light under there, but there train is a liar. The train is a liar. You supposed to be every good train. I didn't know. You're not even supposed to look. He tell you something lied under there, but there's more. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:46:30 Yeah, we're going to do three sets of 20, and you get the last one. One more. I need 30 or 40 for this one. Two more. It's like, wait, what? My arms is dead. My legs is done.

Starting point is 01:46:40 He wanted them. But he's great. He's great. I recommend anybody that's on the fence about it, i.e. my girl, get that trainer and get in there. Get that trainer and get in there. My baby's with 9 times. This guy is an idiot.

Starting point is 01:46:57 What? That's fucked up. It sounds bad. It sounds bad, but she's dead ass. No my baby's losing weight. Why is she killing that shit? Speaking of which, not that part. Y'all anniversary. No no no. Hey buddy, watch your tone. Speaking of your lady,

Starting point is 01:47:14 y'all had an anniversary. I was gonna ask how it went. Six years, yes yes yes yes yes. I told y'all that. Last time we saw you was headed out night on the town. We ain't seen you since. It went, it went. Is that really the gold Tomahawk in the briefcase? Y'all saw the briefcase Tomcase Tomahawk it wasn't go why the time I posted that that was when we went to dinner, but that's from our that restaurant I told you does a good job out there no no runs with Yeah, we went out there had a great anniversary dinner

Starting point is 01:47:39 At the BBs they treat us like family. It didn't charge me at all. Oh They've never charged me once I step foot in there. This is the fucking problem with rich people What's that? appreciate right and Tony shout to Tony to the manager owner over there he's like yo if you come over here with 20 and 30 people then I'll charge you but For now you just come with your lady. What's all like what one two three? But ten here. No, he said that's the problem with rich people.

Starting point is 01:48:05 They don't pay for shit. I'm like, shut up. I don't pay for shitty. You one of them too? Ice don't pay for no octa. Oh you got the Jamaican restaurant connect, boy? Anyway, we had a really good anniversary. Y'all know we've taken our family trip to Turks.

Starting point is 01:48:27 Turks and Caicos. Yeah. Both of them. Right. You leave Friday? I leave soon. I won't be here for the next broadcast. I'm aware of that.

Starting point is 01:48:40 What day you leaving? And Mel won't be here either. She was who I was really relying on to keep y'all together. Be it on the room. Keep it funny and entertaining. Mel's not going to be here. So one of y'all have to try to be funny.

Starting point is 01:48:51 E, can you come early on Friday, y'all? No. No. All right. I'm down. He did forget his name in the article, so I wouldn't. Yeah, that was disrespectful. Remind him.

Starting point is 01:49:03 Remind him. Just wreck. Just in, remind him. Yeah, just wreck. Just in case he ain't read it, just wreck. Oh no, he read it. He read it? No, he saw it? He read the fuck out that article. Other group chat. What's up, y'all?

Starting point is 01:49:14 Y'all wake up, hurry up. I ain't know so many people who subscribe to the Times. You know you had to be subscribed at first if you woke up early enough. I just played a crossword, that's all. I get the article for free. He took the cheap route. He took the other route.

Starting point is 01:49:27 I didn't do it. I played the crosswords every day, but I get the article for free. It's cool. You ready to, bitch? Not yet. They got us, y'all, so I'm sorry. They didn't get us. You getting us, that's what they say.

Starting point is 01:49:40 You got us. All right, hold on, y'all. You all too far. All right, this is how the coupe be starting. Now, what type of time we on, nigga'all. Y'all too far. All right, this is how the coupe be starting. Now, what type of time we on, nigga? Let me see. Let me see what side I'm standing on.

Starting point is 01:49:50 I can't allow that. Y'all might do that to me. You hear what he just said to me? He don't got it. You hear what he just said to me? But like, hi, real quick. That couldn't us is what they say. Real quick.

Starting point is 01:50:02 Yo, stop fucking talking to Mandy every time some shit drop, man. And that comes out. But look, nigga, we'll call Mandy, ain't it? God damn. What happened, Flip? Oh. Nothing.

Starting point is 01:50:13 Just watching you, man. You crazy. You had to know, nigga, that nigga was gonna say something. You had, you just wanted to know. He don't care. I had that dog. He prepped it last week. I paid taxes, dog.

Starting point is 01:50:22 He tried to. I paid taxes. What do you want me to pay? What the fuck about that taxes shit? What does that mean? He's just saying words of distraction. I'm not hiding from nobody. It is what it is.

Starting point is 01:50:36 Like the killer niggas at the strip club see me here. The tax people came, got what they get. Everybody here taking care of laced. Saw me? Shit. This thing is saying what I'm hiding for. Audience, what the fuck am i hiding from anybody here niggas ain't seen nothing when it went from six months to the year two years yo i need you till 2028 2028 oh. Stupid. I think about the leadership. They playing.

Starting point is 01:51:07 They didn't talk to each other all the way. All right. Who hit the 2028? Who? They got you on a death row deal. Why niggas is mad they locked in? It's a Ja Rule calling me. Let me see what the hell is going.

Starting point is 01:51:15 Yeah, yeah. Tell him to get going. Tell him to get going. Tell him to get going. Tell him to get going. Tell him to get going. Tell him to get going. Tell him to get going.

Starting point is 01:51:23 Tell him to get going. Tell him to get going. Tell him to get going. Tell him to get going. Tell him to get me see what the hell is going. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Tell him to get going. I love the woman born this man. Good. Yo, you butt down me.

Starting point is 01:51:35 Yo, you butt down me. Oh, yeah, you butt down. Anyways, man. Speaking of money money Queen's fixed Park Lamar Hill. Park Lamar Hill. Park D-Mob. Sad him down. Hey, the market. All that shit came from something. The market. The market. The market.

Starting point is 01:52:09 Park Lamar Hill. Park Lamar Hill. Park Lamar Hill. Park Lamar Hill. Park Lamar Hill. Park Lamar Hill. Park D-Mob. Sad him down.

Starting point is 01:52:17 Hey, the market. The market. All that shit came from something. The market. The market. The market. The market. The market. The market. The market. The market. The market. Park your ass for two years.

Starting point is 01:52:25 Anyway. Oh shit. The Parkin' In Show. That's right. Parkin' In. Well, listen, we, yeah. Yeah. Yo, don't let this be different than our normal broadcast, yo. What's our next broadcast, yo.

Starting point is 01:52:45 What's our next topic, you guys? Um. Yeah. Yeah. Let's move. Yeah, this shouldn't be no different than what we normally do, y'all. Come on.

Starting point is 01:52:52 The WNBA players are demanding more money from their chief bosses. Yo, you gave them one of our T-shirts. Exactly. Right. You gave them one of our T-shirts. No bullshit. This is at my God, a T-shirt. No bullshit, this is trash. Look how it just lines up.

Starting point is 01:53:08 Yeah, it really do. Sheesh. The WNBA All-Star Game. Oh yeah, let's start there, the actual game. Did y'all watch the game? No. No. No. No. It was a good, it was a burn burner for like two minutes.

Starting point is 01:53:19 Yo, yo, yo. Did you say a barn burner? Yeah. Yeah, y'all don't say that? I said it. No. Yo, okay. It was a good game.

Starting point is 01:53:26 Caitlin, they play. Caitlin's team played though. The Caitlin squad would play. It was a good game. It wasn't particularly close, but there was a lot of action because of the four pointer. And I thought it was a fun game. I thought it was a lot.

Starting point is 01:53:41 No, listen, I have been watching the WNBA. Yeah. Like I played prize picks. And so because of prize picks, I have been watching the WNBA. Yeah. Like, I played prize picks, and so, because of prize picks, I've been learning about the players I'm watching shit. The shit is, women's basketball's coming a long, long way. For sure. All jokes aside.

Starting point is 01:53:54 It's some great basketball being played. It's coming. Outside of Caitlin. You do that more, I'ma get you right. What? Right now. Right now. What?

Starting point is 01:54:01 Yo. Yo, man. Yo. You watch more basketball? Pay attention, we got you more. No, no, keep making that, making that like that. Put that prize mix in there. Hey, you do that, you want to win? Hey, we gonna get you right.

Starting point is 01:54:14 We gonna get you right. You a fool, son. I'm gonna take you in. Anyway. No, but the game was great, but the thing that got the most attention wasn't the game itself. It was the t-shirt. You're a fool, so. I'm taking it. Oh, man. Anyway. No, but the game was great, but the thing that got the most attention wasn't the game itself.

Starting point is 01:54:28 It was the t-shirts that some of the players were wearing. It was the comments made about the t-shirts. Well, right, it starts with the- All of it, yeah. All of it together, right? The team, they were wearing shirts that spoke to their desire to make more money, right? And to get the owners to pay them more money

Starting point is 01:54:45 as they entered this deal. And then the world responded. Some people stood in solidarity, other people were like, fuck y'all talking about. And that became a big debate. And there was also a little backdoor debate if you saw the press conference with Kelsey and others about who participated in those talks.

Starting point is 01:55:02 Cause there were talks about making more money and organizing strategies around making more money. Most of the people were on board. Some people on Caitlin's team weren't, and that became a whole other side conversation. But I don't want to make it about Caitlin. I'm just going to say, the WNBA women are asking for more money, they're demanding more money.

Starting point is 01:55:16 What does the top athlete in the WNBA make a year? Like roughly. WNBA stars have gotten so out of hand that we're now seeing the league compared to F1. A global sports league that generates over a billion dollars a year in TV contracts around the world and has individual sponsors like LBMA that pay a hundred million dollars or more. Now this is obviously a ridiculous comparison for all the reasons I just mentioned and plenty others but I think

Starting point is 01:55:40 it might be helpful to understand what's so challenging about the WNBA negotiation. So for starters you'll commonly hear that WNBA players don't want to get paid the same as NBA players. They just want to split the same share of revenue. For context, NBA players get around 50% of the annual revenue of the league. They split it with owners, 50-50. While WNBA players only see about 10% of the revenue that the league creates. That sounds like a mismatch and they should probably increase that.

Starting point is 01:56:04 Now here's the problem with that. The WNBA has never made a profit. That by itself is not a huge problem. Sports teams lose money on an annual basis all the time and the league will eventually be profitable when its next media rights group is in. The problem is with their cap table. Now since the WNBA has lost money every year

Starting point is 01:56:20 for the last 25 to 30 years, the NBA has funded and covered those losses. It has cost the NBA around $10 million annually. This wasn't a bad deal for the last 25 to 30 years, the NBA has funded and covered those losses. It has cost the NBA around $10 million annually. This wasn't a bad deal for the NBA. The NBA was able to package up the WNBA's media rights with their own and sell it as a year-round package to TV broadcasts. Since the WNBA takes place during the NBA off season.

Starting point is 01:56:38 It also sort of gave them a call option on women's sports. If it's successful, it's worth billions of dollars. If not, they write off the $10 million as a tax loss. No big deal. Now, the problem is that at that $10 million a year, that financing was not cheap. Additionally, the WNBA raised $75 million from an outside investor group in 2022 that included Nike and other sports owners. As a result of the MBA's cash and that additional investment, the WNBA not only controls about 42% of its revenue stream, the NBA controls 42% as well, and that outside investor group controls the rest.

Starting point is 01:57:10 What this means is that out of that $2 billion to other media rights deals the WNBA just signed, the league and its players will see less than half of it. That's why getting the 50% revenue share is going to be so challenging. Now don't get me wrong, WNBA players will see increased salaries,

Starting point is 01:57:23 the league is making a lot more money, attendance is double, viewership is up, they just signed this meteorites deal and they're adding teams. But some players have been talking about a million dollar more a year salaries and that's not going to happen anytime soon simply because of the cap table that the WNBA has had to put in place because of the losses over the last 25 years. It was a little lengthy but I thought it was important information. That is very important.

Starting point is 01:57:45 Yeah, when you have this conversation. It's very important because it takes some of the emotional stuff out. These are the top five earners in the WNBA. Jackie Young, 252K. Kelsey Mitchell, 249K. Jewel Lloyd, 249K. Kalia Cooper, Copper, 248K. and I don't want to mispronounce this name. Rike Ogunbowale sounds I may be fucking up. She's tough. She's tough. She's a monster.

Starting point is 01:58:17 And those are the top five salaries. And the average salary is 106. Oh that's that's significantly higher than it was. Yeah the average is 106 and the minimum is 66 I believe right now. I'm on the girl side and I do think that they will see an increase. You can't be. Why? When you take the emotions out of it, if you're a business owner and you're running a business and you were in a negative for so, so, so long, it's kind of only right that you recoup what your investment was and then start to share that.

Starting point is 01:58:54 I think that once the owners or whomever backed it recoups their money, then I think the splits should be more along with the NBA splits are. See, I disagree with that. I disagree with that. Could be. Anybody starting a business should expect to spend money and lose for five to 10 years.

Starting point is 01:59:13 True. If in that 10th year, and I'm just freestyling here, if in that 10th year, the person that you in business with get it cracking, and that's when the momentum come and the traction come and the brand deals and licensing and yada yada yada, then I'm not, I don't walk in the owner's office saying, hey, y'all lost all this money. I'm going to the office saying,

Starting point is 01:59:34 if you want to continue the upswing that's happening here, you got to pay me now. I don't care what you lost. No, but they- That's on you. But they have had a significant upswing. Like, I don't think if you go back to look at the W. Is UPS workers making more than Caitlin Clark?

Starting point is 01:59:48 Yeah. She's making 80 I think. So we can't sit here and say significant upswing. I'm talking about from where they were. What I'm saying is there is an ascension for what their salaries are. I think if you look back five years ago, six years ago, there were no $250,000 a year WNBA players.

Starting point is 02:00:06 I'm telling you, if I'm any one of those girls, I don't want to hear that when I walk in the office. You can save your breath telling me about what happened before now. Right this second, we getting shit cracking and we got Juju on the way. There's no sign of us falling off. There's franchises that were purchased for $10 million that are worth nine figures today.

Starting point is 02:00:29 So I mean one good example is in New York. There's new teams. Hey, Philly. Forget about all that. There are new teams. You can't tell me too much when I walk in that corner office as a girlie today. I'm not talking about Lisa Leslie, you know. I'm talking about today.

Starting point is 02:00:43 I'm talking about even, listen, and it sounds like I'm on this, I'm just on the side of business. And what I'm saying is, you can't expect for us to not get our money back. Yes, we can. How do you want your business? Wait, wait, wait, answer this, Elise. How do you want your business to continue without us, without our participation? I think that there's a gradual. And you would never, as an owner, you would never stop this right this second.'m never I'm saying that they're gradual Increases that are gonna take place for us and for you. Would you make that argument for podcasters? No, he would not yes No, we should only get gradually Ask Ian and him when I talk to them

Starting point is 02:01:20 You know this I've never came up here and said, yo, y'all making this so I should make this as a result of what Joe's making. I don't even negotiate like that. That was my strategy. I've never done that. Oh, I wouldn't. I just don't. I'm just saying personally. I'm not saying that. I called you different because in that argument we can say, yo dog, the pie is ascending and ah ah ah ah ah so we are worthy of this. I don't make that argument. I'm kind of surprised. I'm kind of surprised. I'm kind of surprised your statement to say that me and you talked I don't know about you and Ian talking this was years ago So I'm not putting this on you and I tried to run that hey

Starting point is 02:01:54 The the annual increase is what the legal annual increase is 3% or 4% or whatever the number what 5%? You looked at me like you were supposed to look at me. I did. That's what I'm speaking to. Not saying that you haven't done it. Listen to this. Not saying that you haven't done it. I'm saying this. If you were in, all right, let's, I know what, yeah me.

Starting point is 02:02:14 Fuck me talk about it. I got a little bit of intel. So if you were literally turning a loss, if you were taking a loss, do you think I would come in here and say, yo, I need an increase? That's what I'm saying. I would. Seriously, all jokes aside, I was kinda surprised you were turning a loss. If you were taking a loss, do you think I would come in here and say, yo, I need an increase? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 02:02:27 Seriously, all jokes aside, if you were taking a loss, you, you think I would come in here and ask you for more money? Would, I don't know. Should, I say yes. No, that's ridiculous. I disagree.

Starting point is 02:02:37 Because if you're losing money and then you have an opportunity to pick up and you're losing money, you start to pick up. You expect us to come in here and say, yo, the shit that you're starting to gain, pay us with it? And Joe's lying. Because half of your negotiation with me and you got together was,

Starting point is 02:02:54 yo, you know we just took on some more expenses. And you know what I'm saying, like, that was your spiel. Well, no, my position changes depending on which side of the table I'm on. Yo, stop playing. Both of y'all do that. That's why I'm fastening up on this conversation. No, that's not true. I'm saying that.

Starting point is 02:03:09 Sadly, he's not just a snuff you. One day he's the label. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. One day he is the label. One day he's the artist. And that's the duality of life. When I speak to Ish or some people,

Starting point is 02:03:26 yes, there are expenses that need to be taken into account when I'm Ish. Fuck them. I don't give a fuck about that shit that you talk about, dog. I do. I got to be taken in. But then again, wait, wait, wait, wait, cause it does sound nuts. So let me slow down. Let me slow down. Let me slow down. I take slow down. I take it back. I take it back. I just, hold on, stop, stop, don't say nothing. Don't say nothing.

Starting point is 02:03:50 Don't say, don't say nothing right now. Just let me get this point out because I don't want this to be misconstrued. Got it. To talk like Barry Bonds, you have to produce like Barry Bonds. Okay. So when I'm on the other side saying, I don't care about what you're saying, it's because

Starting point is 02:04:10 I've produced like Barry Bonds. So yeah, I don't care about the normal, how this should go. Go take a walk and find a way to make Barry Bonds happy. And that was your stance and a Drake argument. Yeah, they need to go outside and come back in. You got damn right. You got damn right. Now, I wouldn't suggest that you try that if you are not.

Starting point is 02:04:37 Who Drake? 1000% positive that you are producing at that clip. Well, there's two things with that. One, you might, you will never know if you're producing at that clip? Well, there's two things with that. One, you might, you will never know if you're producing at that clip. Oh yes you would. Oh yes you would. You'll never get the confirmation from them.

Starting point is 02:04:54 That's what I'm talking about. Oh you'll never get that. Because the company, you'll know. But the company can always take the other side of it. You'll know. And that's when you withhold your labor. Yes. They could take the other side. If you Barry Bonds,

Starting point is 02:05:09 that's not a good idea. That's not a good idea for them to do. And somebody on that side should know that. Yeah. So like right this second with these girls, these girls, women, these women and girls, these girls, ladies, these ladies have the opportunity or this small window to say to billionaire owners, we don't care. They'll never have the opportunity again to say,

Starting point is 02:05:36 hey, we don't care about what you spend and how you got here and your losses and you just now making money. Can I jump in? Even if they don't get their way, they won't be able to even say this again. Go ahead. This is the only thing I would say,

Starting point is 02:05:51 and I see all sides, I see all the arguments. As a business owner, I see it. As a worker, I see it. I think, one, I think the NBA has a history and a trajectory that we can follow. The NBA didn't make money for decades. The NBA didn't really, I mean, through the 60s, through the 70s, through the 80s.

Starting point is 02:06:08 It was going bankrupt until Magic and Burger King. Right, but they still kept playing players more. And the argument still was this is a long-term investment. I don't disagree with Isha's point that do you have to play a long game here? And I don't think anybody disagrees with that, that your share will increase as we make more money and the owner has a right to recoup it.

Starting point is 02:06:26 But you can't recoup anything or bill anything without the players. So the question is not should you recoup it, it's what proportion should you get while we're recouping it. And I think the player, the owners often will understate how much they're making. I mean I think the New York Liberty is the good example because you can't tell purely by attendance, you can't tell purely by ratings, and owners do a lot of mathematical- You don't know how many Pepsi's been sold, Hot Dog's been sold, all of that stuff. All that stuff.

Starting point is 02:06:53 But one clear measure is the New York Liberty was purchased for somewhere between 10 and 15 million and it's valued right now at 450 million. I mean, that's a huge fucking joke. That tells you that these owners ain't just losing money. I didn't say that I'm talking to the but then but then when you start talking about league-wide You'll take the New York Liberty, but then you got to go look at a team in a smaller market You know what I'm saying? That's not nowhere near that

Starting point is 02:07:16 But then you also have to look at the the the TV shares which are which are split this way, right? And you have to look at what's happening in the summer and you have to look at the fact that there is a big pool Of money. I think that, I think you're right. I mean, I don't, I think the misrepresentation of argument has been and becomes a strong man, again, not you, but other people, is that they want to make what the NBA's making. No, they just want a bigger slice of the pie.

Starting point is 02:07:35 No, I don't understand. No, I just said, you're not saying it. And you shouldn't take your product while it's more valuable and higher than it's ever been and try to frame it a different type of way it sends the wrong message right for the 10 year old and 11 year old you should be trying to incentivize the farm system that's coming behind this wave right we're doing the wave the wave is here now with what these ladies are

Starting point is 02:07:58 doing you want to make this wave last 10 15 and 20 years and this sends the wrong messaging to the young Hooper. It does. And the truth is, pay the people that need to get paid. If y'all, Okay, I agree with that. Kayla Clark's found a four year, $338 million deal. Yeah. Right?

Starting point is 02:08:17 If you go back to five years ago. With who? The Fever. That's $80,000 a year, yeah. Right, the Fever. If you go back five, six, seven years ago. I think you said the wrong number. He said million.

Starting point is 02:08:29 He said million, that's why I said, wait, I thought that was a Nike shirt. I heard thousand too, I'm sorry. Yeah, I heard million. $338,000, I'm sorry, dollar deal. If you go back years ago, bro, them girls would have died for that deal. So I'm not saying that you're wrong.

Starting point is 02:08:46 But it was still a bad deal. And that was wrong. But it was a bad deal. I'm just saying, but as the stuff gradually, yeah, like I think that it should be incremental or- Can I make one more argument? Because there was a second piece of what I was going to say, because I hear what you're saying.

Starting point is 02:08:59 The other thing is, as an investment, it's a bad strategy. The reason, and I know it's an extreme example, I can see that. But the reason Brittany Greiner's locked up in Russia is because she had to go somewhere I should get more money, right? So you're risking the legs the arms the body parts of these players who have to play around the world just to make ends Me and so to me as an owner and it was locked up in Russia because she had a vape in this against the Lord I have that out there, but he's saying she was basketball she would have never had

Starting point is 02:09:24 Doesn't require the big benches. Let me put it differently. Let me use it. I'm wrong. WNBA players have to play in other leagues around the world during the off season in order to pay their bills. I'm saying that that puts your investment at a danger. If I draft, what's my man, Cooper Flag, if I draft Wimby,

Starting point is 02:09:44 I don't want Wimby playing in Latvia. You know what I mean? I don't want to play in the Summer League. I don't even want to play in the Summer League. Yeah, sure. But if he has to, because I want to pay him, to me it's worth it just to protect your investment and to protect the league, and to make sure that Europe,

Starting point is 02:09:56 that you close the market and cornered the market on his talent. So for me, it's all those things too. It's just from an investment. I'm in agreement with all of them. Yeah, so I'm saying pay them a little bit more. So for me, the max salary in the WNBA right now is 250. Maybe should be 500 I'm not saying it should be a million because I don't know the numbers well enough I'll be your MBA was founded on April 24th 1996 Lisa Leslie a prominent player earned the maximum salary in a W which was

Starting point is 02:10:18 91,000 and that's in 2006. Mm-hmm. So no these numbers ain't so in 20 years. It's Double plus one. Yeah, but that's not right. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm not, bro, again, I'm not against that. They should be making more money. You just explained it from the owner's side. I'm just saying that given the objective perspective, like, yo dog, we was paying her 100 when we was taking losses.

Starting point is 02:10:45 We was taking losses, paying everybody money and not making no money. Yo, you know what? The NBA, I mean the NBA, the WNBA and the people that run it could say what they say in this meeting. They know the effects when, they see the effects when just Caitlin Clark is in.

Starting point is 02:11:02 No, but Joe, and that's a big thing. A lot of these jumps have only really transpired over the last two years with the emergence of Caitlyn Clark and Angel Reese. Okay, so this is my point. They getting $3 million sneaker deals now. To advance this conversation, this should be the point to Kelsey Plum

Starting point is 02:11:20 and the rest of them that are shitting on this girl. Shitting on Caitlyn Clark. We see what the power of one and two is. So what could it look like if three, four, five, 10, 20 of us decide to take this stance? They not gonna have a choice but to pay these girls. I don't like the fact that they came for shorty and was like, yo, well, we ain't gonna say nothing.

Starting point is 02:11:40 That was corny, your Kelsey Plum. I think that was horrible because guess what? She's the biggest star in this league league and she got the t-shirt on Which is getting the entire movement more notoriety Yeah, I don't give a fuck if she wasn't in the morning to decide if we was wearing it Hey when y'all decided to wear it, she had one right? Yeah, and I'm glad that Sabrina told yo That's not even relevant to what we're talking about right now relevant It makes zero sense. Yo when LeBron James and them stood up and said, yo,

Starting point is 02:12:06 we need this, this, this, and this done. Nobody said, well, LeBron, was you at the meeting? No, nigga, I'm the biggest star in the sport. I now come forward and take the public stance that this is what we want done. That matters more than if I was in the back door meeting at 6 in the morning. Just to be fair, though, they say

Starting point is 02:12:23 Caitlin Clark's team wasn't there, not that Caitlin wasn't there. People like from her squad or from her representation. Did they mean from her representation? That's what I took it as, her team, like maybe her PRP. See, I didn't take it that way. And this is an important piece because the WNBA All-Star game was divided into two teams

Starting point is 02:12:38 and one was Kaitlyn Clark's team. So I thought they were saying that her entire team wasn't there. Yeah, meaning that that's not really a diss against her. It was saying she was just talking that she was still saying too much. But I don't think it was personal to Caitlin. I thought she was more saying like the other team. It's not relevant to be said.

Starting point is 02:12:52 Oh, it's fucked up anyway. But I just want to say, I don't know if it was an attack on Caitlin. I think it was more just too much snitching going on about the whole collective. The biggest star in the sport is supporting our movement. I don't give a fuck what nobody's saying. And that's what I'm saying. The last couple of weeks when we've been having these talks about unionizing up here, you know, we've been here.

Starting point is 02:13:07 And anyone who wasn't at the meeting is okay. We don't talk about it. True. Well, me and you had the lamb chops. Exactly. Flip wasn't there. Ice wasn't there. We was just piling.

Starting point is 02:13:19 We just piling. Hey, yo, real quick. What I wanted to say is that I was kind of surprised that Joe Stantz, from a business perspective, stop being professional, the nigga go on, let's kick his back. No, no, no, no, no. But what I'm saying is that,

Starting point is 02:13:29 because I go through that as well in my business, where niggas feel like, yo, you gotta pay me this, and I'm saying, if things are just starting to pick up, why would I pay you this when I can go out there and do it myself? And if you feel you worth this money, go out there and get it yourself. Because they're, they're, they're,

Starting point is 02:13:45 their point to you would be, we the reason why things are picking up. Yeah, but then I can, but then, but then that's why I'm kind of surprised that he said, I can show you that you're not the reason, number one, number two, me involving you in this is a luxury. Yeah, but that's different, Flip.

Starting point is 02:13:58 No, but hold on, but listen, you can't be, you can't, you're, who's the, who's the biggest star in your network? You. Yeah, back Woody. No, it's you, Flip. Yeah, but we talking about somebody where I can go. Hear what I'm saying, in the WNBA, they can't do the WNBA without them players.

Starting point is 02:14:13 Let's not bring in a WNBA, I'm talking about Joe's comments of standing on the side of a, cause people use that against me, listen. People use that, yo, I heard Joe say this. Yo nigga, if you know what you're worth and you're worth, don't bend in no fold. So somebody, if I'm booking somebody, they will hold up content to say I'm worth this.

Starting point is 02:14:28 And then when we look at the numbers, you can't even make that shit on your own. So you just doing that, you being selfish, you're playing to my feelings and my emotion, and you're using my man who I respect as a talking point. So it's kind of reckless to say that, because it's not true. If for the years when niggas,

Starting point is 02:14:43 for years if I'm'm paying you more than enough or more than your worth to me, and then I've been losing now that I'm gaining because I got some traction. And you coming back around. And I can tell you like, yo, about the numbers when I was paying you this, you shouldn't have got that.

Starting point is 02:15:01 So let's work together and we can go there. And then flip here's's a tricky spot. It is tricky, but I got it. Know what the trickiest piece of that was? When you said to you. To me, meaning that I have the analytics so I can show. So when you go to the accountant and they're like, you're paying, why would you pay all this?

Starting point is 02:15:18 Or even before I went to the accountant when I was talking to Ian and he looked at it, like, okay, this doesn't make sense. Why don't you do this and get a bunch of people that wants to do it and don't feel like they can play on your feelings? He's been saying that. Damn, but Flip, like, fuck Joe.

Starting point is 02:15:32 Don't stop, no, no, no. Joe just said he bullshitting though. Nah, but he still be doing that. He said, depend on what's out of the table one more. I got you, I know, he, he, he. We trying to build something. No, I said you need to be very bonus. No, and that's where you got me at. So if you could hit it no don't listen to that nigga

Starting point is 02:15:49 You got it You know you go outside right now and make and make something your own you've shown right now when you go outside And sit on a platform, the views you bring, that's value in that. You mean selling dope? No. Yeah, that platform. We talking about like, that platform free.

Starting point is 02:16:11 That platform at work. You go outside, you know the visibility, so you know you can step outside and add something to it. So, I feel like to, my message to people is that, nigga, if somebody don't want to pay you, nigga, go out there and get on your own and show them. Go get it. Show them that you work, because I don't want to pay you, nigga, go out there and get on your own and show them. Go get it. Show them that you work,

Starting point is 02:16:26 because I feel like people hold up content, they hold the platform, they hold the business hostage for selfish means and for selfish reasons. I think you're right on all of that. I think you're right on all of that. But you just said, fuck Joe. Yeah, I'm just saying, fuck Joe.

Starting point is 02:16:37 All right, gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a little serious now. I see Cory pointing at me. We got to organize, man. This nigga, Joe, balked out. This nigga got 20 million. Yeah, but I don't care about that, because I I know I'ma go out there and get it.

Starting point is 02:16:46 Yo why y'all keep saying 20? That's the lie. That's how the capitalists. Mark you go out there and get it. Yo we sat here behind the scenes and told us how much you made of speaking to gators nigga. All jokes aside. No listen to me I'm not even being funny no more. All jokes aside, that's how they get you. You can get your own 20 million. No, almost nobody's gonna get 20 million.

Starting point is 02:17:04 True. That's how they hustle you into taking a short cause you, you can get your own 20 million. No, almost nobody's gonna get 20 million. Like that's how they hustle you into taking a short because you figure one day when I get my 20 million, I'll be, no. But what if you believe in yourself though, Mark? What if the nigga that, what if somebody that told you, what if seeing that, now fuck me. What if seeing that told you nigga, once we let you go,

Starting point is 02:17:18 you can't go up there and get what you made up here or get more. They can't tell you that. You step out and talk nigga from the land to the rail and all that and you get a lot of money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you believe in yourself. You sit there and have the African people dance

Starting point is 02:17:30 on your stream, and you cake it up. I don't know if you paid the... That's it. All I'm saying is... It's a hard conversation. I think it's a bad conversation. I think that... Tell me why it's bad.

Starting point is 02:17:40 I think that's how they divide and conquer us. That's what I'm saying. But before you... I think that's how they do it. Okay, can you explain it? I don't want to be on that side back. You know, I just need to know this is true Cuz I might hurt her wrong If if one of y'all start making 20 million y'all leave the job never no no Come on nigga, may leave before he makes

Starting point is 02:18:03 Yo what I'm saying I think that that's a bad thing because that's how they divide and conquer us. So whether somebody, let's say a label or network comes and says, yo, why are you sitting over there working for the nigga Joe? He making $20 million Joe, you could be doing your own thing, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:18:18 And so they'll pull you away from something. I mean, oh. But people been saying that to me. We don't fall for that. It'll pull you away from something, right? Which is one, that the probability, not saying that it can't happen, it's a possibility that you could go on and make $20 million cool.

Starting point is 02:18:33 You possibly could. It's not probable. But what I'm saying is it lessens this and lessens you. And sometimes that's how they split us up. That's all I'm saying. Three years later from now, Flip could be fucking dropping cheeky nuggies. And then Joe could have dropped from 20 to 11.

Starting point is 02:18:54 You got what I'm saying? And it hurt two things. I dropped from 2011, somebody's getting fired. Yeah, Flip left. Oh, that could be true. You see what I'm saying? I don't think you're gonna drop like that, but what I'm saying, you also promote us going out there and getting you also promote believing in yourself.

Starting point is 02:19:08 So it's double. That's just what he says. We ain't got paid. No, no, that's not true. I believe you. I pay you every time WME call. I have no complaint. I'm worried.

Starting point is 02:19:23 This is for Andy Van Slyke and Bobby Bonilla. Barry's fine as Andy Van Slyke and Bobby Bonilla. I'm writing for him right now. Tim Wakefield over here. That was a strawberry, nigga. Anyway, because this was about Caitlin Clark. Yes, it was. It was about the women of the WNBA.

Starting point is 02:19:42 I apologize, y'all. Which means Caitlin Clark. Because a bunch of white people sitting around saying, the boys of the NBA, y'all be mad as shit. But I think that they should be paid. I think we all agree they should be paid more. The question is just how much. And I just think we can't use a traditional job metric to assess it, right?

Starting point is 02:19:58 Because this is a long-term investment. And we just got to see. Speaking of people getting their money, Fat Joe was at SeaWorld. Oh, money, Fat Joe was at SeaWorld. Ah, shit. Fat Joe was at SeaWorld. You missed it. Performing a medley of his hits.

Starting point is 02:20:13 Sure, shout out to Fat Joe. Shout out to Fat Joe. The internet seemed to have a good time with that. Why? So I went and clicked. I don't see what. I clicked on it. I went and clicked on it once the internet was having fun.

Starting point is 02:20:27 Sometimes I be down. I'll be honest, I didn't really get the fun this time. I got it. I didn't get the fun this time. Not me neither. I didn't think it was as horrible of a SeaWorld performance with the audience or people leaving. Even everything was overdone. Like when they said, oh, here's the crowd leaving, seven niggas leaving. Like I did hear a faint internet though. I did hear a faint call and reply. Yeah, when he was doing in New York, I heard New York. I didn't think it was as horrible as the internet made it seem. Because you said the

Starting point is 02:20:59 key word, you said SeaWorld performance. What the internet likes to do is do an out of context gotcha. So if it was a Fat Joe show and nobody's jumping up and shouting it's whack He didn't get he was in SeaWorld They didn't come they didn't come to see Fat Joe and he still had that place full and enough people and they were rocking To it, so I don't think it looks bad either But if you look at the internet's passing around like it was like his show and nobody was into it So also all these SeaWorld shows are like the halftime show kind of yeah. Oh then That's what I'm saying. They're here to see a whale. Yeah, they're not

Starting point is 02:21:37 Yeah Listen I've been saying I feel like SeaWorld has a bag I feel like some of the people talking shit have never had to perform in front of people that were not fans of them. Or just perform. Or perform, period. Yeah, or perform, period.

Starting point is 02:21:54 That is, y'all giving them way too much credit, bro. So yeah, Fat Joe going out there at his age and doing all of those his, like I'm not, I'm not never shaming that unless it's good reason to shame it. Do not shame Fat Joe's slaps, man. He's got mad fucking laughter. Just like anybody that is not popping right now, trying to point out that there has been some.

Starting point is 02:22:14 Breaking news, breaking news, breaking news, breaking news. Ozzy Osbourne is reportedly passed away. Really? Wow. Damn. Did it say I don't know, right? No. I was literally just reading last week

Starting point is 02:22:27 that him and his wife had a pact. A pact? Yeah, they were gonna go together. If the dementia ever got too bad with one of them, that they would go together. They had a company in Switzerland that does it. And I was just reading that. Sound like a pact I would make and renege on.

Starting point is 02:22:48 Change your mind? Yeah, like if you go first. I can't leave the kids. Well anyway, rest in peace Ozzy. If that's true. If true. Rest in peace Ozzy. I was born.

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Starting point is 02:23:24 Another legend. Another legend. Another legend. Another legend. Another legend. started to show a little sad after hearing his voice on your intro, it really kind of worked. That was great. It was wonderful. It should have let Rudy rock a little bit though. Yeah. Baby. Baby! Yo. In the outro, outro. Bro, that's our childhood. Yeah, for sure.

Starting point is 02:23:33 No bullshit, like that's all I thought about. Like, yo, the Monopoly one, the Justine, Justine one. Like all of those things, that shit plays so much a part of our childhood that it almost seems surreal. I'm older than y'all. You know what I'm saying? That shit was a little different.

Starting point is 02:23:49 That shit was a little different for us. Yeah, he was, and I knew him, he was a wonderful dude. You know, but before we get to the personal part, I mean, what you just said is so important. I mean, this was TV at a moment where most of us had five channels. Yeah. When people turned to Thursday night, Must See TV at 8 o'clock and The Cosby Show came on, 35 million people were watching The Huxtable Family.

Starting point is 02:24:14 And Bill Cosby was America's father. And that made Rudy and Sandra and Vanessa and Theo. Our sisters and brothers. Exactly. And to the older folk, they're children. And he was the boy of the family. He was the teenager. He was the one who many of us could relate to.

Starting point is 02:24:33 The middle-class kids could relate to him. They could see themselves in him. Some of us aspired to be him. Some of the girls and maybe boys had crushes on him. There was, he meant so much to America. He was adored. And I think the beauty of the Cosby show was they didn't make the perfect kid.

Starting point is 02:24:48 He was the one when he was like, you know, dad, could you just believe in me? Cause I'm your son. And he's like, that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. And then he struggled in school, but then eventually they found out that he had dyslexia. So even neurodivergence was explored through him. His mistake, he got the Justine Justine comes on the episode

Starting point is 02:25:04 where he gets caught kissing. He got caught cheating. Right the other girl who had to be Vanessa K Williams and so it's like he meant so much to us because we could relate to him because he wasn't perfect. Him teaching the little gang member boy how to read. Yep he did he's worked after school in a program to go and he attended NYU. Went to NYU and all other stuff and carried. And the Cosmic Show episode when they dance off set, ends as they're going to his graduation, which was a perfect arc from the early part

Starting point is 02:25:29 where he's trying to figure out who he is, and to the end where he is a success story. And we can't forget, just one more thing, Gordon Gar-Trout. Come on now. What? Talk about it. Gordon fucking, I mean, woo! I was about to say, and my boy was trying to get fly.

Starting point is 02:25:40 Stylin' on! And my boy was trying to get fly for my fucking Denise. Stupid ass fucking Denise, man. And then she promised she could do it. But you know what she did? She flipped it on him and was like, yo, brock that. See, a guy's like,

Starting point is 02:25:55 yo, that's the real guy's like. Hey Ice. What? If you don't know. Bro, we've done this, go ahead. Y'all can do y'all thing. I don't know the Cosby show. We not gonna do that.

Starting point is 02:26:04 I didn't know you didn't know what the Goring Gar Troll was. We've done this a bunch of times. Oh, you should watch that, man. I'm not gonna watch Go ahead. Y'all can do your thing. I don't know the Cosby show. We're not gonna do anything. I didn't know you didn't know what the Goring Gar-Trel was. We've done this a bunch of times. Oh, you should watch that, man. I'm not gonna watch it. But y'all can. Okay. No judgment. But I'll just say this. I had the honor of knowing him, and I'm trying not to.

Starting point is 02:26:15 Watch that old shit. I'm not watching that. That show's... The greatest. You won't watch the old show? Not that I haven't seen already. I'm not going back to go watch it. Again, like he said, it was his childhood. It's gonna hit different.

Starting point is 02:26:27 Me watching it with my eyes now, I might say, okay, that was cool. It's not gonna affect me the same way. I don't know if that's true. That's mature. I don't know if that's true. I think you would probably enjoy it. Yeah, I think you would.

Starting point is 02:26:37 I think you would. I think it's worth trying, but you know, again, to each his own. Just to bring it back to Malcolm, most child stars, and we've talked about child stars up here a lot. End up being fucked up. Yeah, I mean, and not because they're bad people, but the industry does a thing to you.

Starting point is 02:26:54 It's hard to be famous and loved and adored and the breadwinner for your family at an early age. 13, 14. And be normal, but Malcolm Jamal Warner is not just normal for a child star, he's just normal for any celebrity I've ever met. I mean, he was cool, he wasn't cynical, he wasn't bitter. He was generous, he was kind.

Starting point is 02:27:16 You didn't have to be super famous for him to fuck with you. He was just a dope dude with a great spirit. And even, you know, and he had other roles besides Theo. Obviously, we know him from comedy. We know him from, you know, all kinds of, even suits, you know what I mean? And he had these amazing roles and these amazing people, but he was also an artist. He was a poet. He was a thinker. He was a reader. We used to talk a lot about, like, the elections and we were going back and forth about this Kamala election. Even afterward,

Starting point is 02:27:42 we would check in and he always, there was an optimism and a hopefulness in him, a buoyancy I like to say, that people don't see. I mean, even what you talked about, the idea of smiling, and he's often said there's always something to smile about in life. He just had a way of, yeah, there's just a beauty in him. And my heart goes out to him because we lost

Starting point is 02:28:01 one of the great ones, and my heart goes out to his family. He lost, obviously he's leaving a wife and a child. Dying is one thing Dying on your family vacation In front of your family's place That was a totally different ballgame. Yeah, it is said that He was just going for a quick swim by himself in the morning and his wife after an hour had passed And alerted the authorities saying something may be wrong

Starting point is 02:28:25 and they found him about 100 to 200 feet from, yeah, with the, and listen man, listen, I can't swim, so, you know, I speak from a whole different perspective, but when you travel, those water, that water is aggressive. It's different. Yeah, I kept seeing people,

Starting point is 02:28:44 all black people need to learn how to swim. This ain't about swimming. No, it's not about swimming. This has nothing to do with swimming. It's about the force of the entire ocean going against you with a wave or current that is five, six, 700 feet high, depending on where you at.

Starting point is 02:28:59 That's extra. It's pulling you. No, no, not the waves. It's the current. The water is pulling you. So you jumping right here, that shit is pulling you down here mad quick. And now you just can't get back to shore. Yeah, you can't swim back up there.

Starting point is 02:29:11 And anytime I've been to Cabo, that water's so aggressive out there, they keep people on the beach 24 hours because people go out there and get missing and lose their life and so forth and so on. So they keep people out there to say, hey, no, no matter how attractive this water looks, do not come over.

Starting point is 02:29:30 That's scary, bro. That's scary. 54 years old. But I mean, if you're going to fucking, where was that, Costa Rica? Costa Rica. You're going to Costa Rica. Costa Rica.

Starting point is 02:29:38 You tell your wife and your kids, hey, I'll be back for breakfast. I'll be right back. Yeah, I'll be right back. Give me 30 minutes. No, but and that shit is different. Like, God damn. That shit is different. Like, God damn. As a 54 year old.

Starting point is 02:29:49 And he might have been a good swimmer. Right, he is a good swimmer. That's the thing, he might have been a great swimmer, fam. I'm sure he's a good swimmer. Mother nature is different, B. It don't matter out there. Yeah, mother nature is different. Like, get one of them bungalows.

Starting point is 02:30:02 And God is different. It's your time to go, it's your time to go. If you don't go in the ocean, then they'll fucking find another way for you to go when it's time. I think the thing we learned yesterday, and today, and tomorrow, and probably for the next upcoming weeks,

Starting point is 02:30:16 is how adored he was. You know, I mean, I think some people- Did we learn that? People were, I watched people who aren't in our culture be surprised at how upset and distraught people were. Like, I wasn't surprised because we all grew up loving him, but I don't think the outsiders understood that. Because people were commenting, damn, people really cared about him. Yeah, motherfucker. Yeah, but back to your earlier point, when we lose a cultural icon like that,

Starting point is 02:30:42 I'm not really looking toward what other people were thinking or doing. That's true. That's true. Black people that I know of all ages, everybody, because if you a child, nigga, your mom is in the kitchen with a little boo like, oh shit. Like, yeah, that was, we all, we all pause. Fam, it hit different. The show was so great because, and this is a good thing in the bag thing about the child stars, fam, I don't give a fuck what other role he ever was gonna take. That nigga's Theo. He's Theo.

Starting point is 02:31:09 Yeah. That's Denise. He's called him Theo. That's Sandra. He's a great. And that's Rudy. I don't give a fuck what happens, fam. That nigga's Theo. And that's how pivotal and important that show was for us when we were kids.

Starting point is 02:31:20 Yeah. Like he can't escape Theo. You know what I'm saying? And that's crazy. If If you gonna be locked into a role, that's the one Nobody wants to be taken across the ticker like like Kobe. Yeah. Yeah, that's how I felt Oh, it was room when Kobe came across the We plan to like not fuck I don't the phones wild. Yo, bro Yeah, the phones wild and we jumped off that mother fuckin' helicopter. With the baby, with the baby.

Starting point is 02:31:47 Yeah, right, right, right. They gon' find that nigga. We was like, yo, they gon' find Kobe down there with a broken leg out there in the desert, yo. That's how we found. My heart goes out to his family, his children, his wife, like listening to him on Mel's pod, just like, just hearing him.

Starting point is 02:32:03 That was the last interview. I don't know if you knew that. I still don't know that. That was the last interview. I don't know if you knew that. I still don't know that that was the last interview. That's true. I know it was one of the last interviews and he dropped a whole lot of, he dropped some shit on there. I mean, I know we got our, I mean,

Starting point is 02:32:13 but he dropped some shit on there. Just to hear the stories of how his dad named him and how his dad had him fucking reading certain literature at a certain age when all the other kids was outside. Like his story got deep this morning. I was in a rabbit hole with all his poetry. Like, like dad, it just hurts. It just hurts.

Starting point is 02:32:37 And again, any death from 40 to 60, I pay a lot more attention to now. Like honestly, when I first heard about it, it kinda, he passed away swimming, right? And so he passed away, it's a tragic thing. But I was thinking more along the lines of some physical ailment at 54. That's like seeming like the sweet spot that people are going now. but I was thinking more along the lines of some physical ailment at 54.

Starting point is 02:33:05 That's like seeming like the sweet spot that people are going now. You start hearing. From heart attacks and strokes and sugar and all of these other things in the early 50s, late 40s. People are checking out. Well, that's how I know I'm all fucked up because of course, as shocking as the news was,

Starting point is 02:33:22 after it passed for a second, I was so happy that, you know, you read accidental drowning and we start thinking of- I ain't wanna say it, I reworded it, that's where it was going. We start thinking, but I was so happy once the story came out that it really just sound like a freak accident. What it sounds like.

Starting point is 02:33:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, that one, when the story came out, it fucked me up even more. Cause I'm just thinking about that feeling in that moment when you ain't nothing but gold. You know. You know. You pull out, yeah, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 02:33:54 And I'm on vacation with my family, and they there, I'm not gonna make it back. Like I was reading that and I was like, yo, just a map, oh. That's some shit. Yeah. And I've had family friends that have died out of the country. And sometimes dying out of the country makes it tough.

Starting point is 02:34:13 I'm sure. Problem. With the laws to get the body back. The body back. All of us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, it gets.

Starting point is 02:34:19 To get the body back if you don't have the finances. All of that shit starts to come into play. Custom paperwork and all of that. Mm. And just having to manage that. And nobody to come into play. Custom paperwork and all of that. Nobody ever expects to go. So I mean, then you hope that people have their business and all that. Yeah. Shout out to him, man.

Starting point is 02:34:38 Rest in peace. Rest in peace, brother. Thank you. Thank you for your service. Thank you for everything. Thank you for the example you set at that young age for a kid as a young age watching on the living room TV. And we'll miss you and we love you. And this is a sad and dark time for not just fans, because there's a lot of white fans too, but especially black people, man. God, I can't even think of too many names that when this happens, it's like a pause for everybody stop.

Starting point is 02:35:12 So shout out to Malcolm Jamal Warner, man. Again, thank you. Going too soon, rest in peace. We love you. I am gonna show up some else, man. While you do that, I just wanna clear something up. I did misspeak when we were speaking about Ozzy, and I said the mention was Parkinson's.

Starting point is 02:35:29 Oh, okay. So I just want to clear that up. Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it. Let's see here. Boom. ["Dreamin'"] Again, if you want to see some of that Malcolm Jamar interview that we played earlier that should be on Mel Forrest YouTube Check it out High and bothered one is final interviews

Starting point is 02:36:11 Again we miss you we love you prayers Hey, throw some prayers to the family and friends on real quick man, you're gonna be fucked up as well. Probably be talking about it. Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyy yyyyy yyyyy yyyyy yyyyyyy yyyyy yyyyy yyyyy yyyyy yyy yyy yyy yyy y There's not a minute, hour, day or night that I don't love you You're at the top of my list cause I'm always there for you I still remember in the days when I was scared to touch you How I spent my day dreaming, planning how to say I love you You must have known that I had feelings deep enough to swim in That's when you opened up your heart and you told me Oh Ask me the question again Have room for one more dancer

Starting point is 02:37:26 Oh Oh Cockroach you go No man I think you should go No cockroach go ahead And look guys come on I gotta get back inside Cockroach go ahead Okay see you

Starting point is 02:37:42 That shit taught me a lesson Good evening Mrs. Banks Mr. Banks Okay, see you. That shit taught me a lesson. Good evening Mrs. Banks, Mr. Banks. Hey! How wonderful it is to see the whole family spending time together. I thought that only happened on the Cosby show. I'm cutting it off. Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright.

Starting point is 02:38:03 What else needs our full attention? Let's see, let's see, let's see. Brown League, WNBA. You said you had a question you wanted to ask us. I do have a question, but I'm only gonna ask it if y'all are gonna be 100% honest with me. On these mics, of course. I can't do.

Starting point is 02:38:19 This question is pointless if y'all are not gonna be honest with me. Bro, all we do is tell the truth. All we do is tell the truth. All we do is tell the truth. Well, in that case, I'm gonna ask you. Oh, then you have to ask the question then, bro. Tell me the amount of times each of you has initiated with a woman it's 11-11. Zero.

Starting point is 02:38:35 Come on, it's all right. Look, come on, come on, come on. Don't look stupid. A couple of times. Come on, come on, come on. What does that mean? A couple of times. Come on, come on, come on.

Starting point is 02:38:43 I did that goofy shit. Come on, come on, come on. come on. What's that mean? Come on, come on, come on, come on. I did that goofy shit. Come on, come on, come on. How many times have you been the initiator of, oh, it's 11-11. Make a wish. Oh, make a wish. Make a wish, yeah.

Starting point is 02:38:56 Close your eyes. I did that to my wife. I've definitely done that. Send a screenshot. I've done it that time. We just happened to be on the phone looking at, babe, it's 11-11. Oh, I'll see the time next to him.

Starting point is 02:39:05 What do that mean? I'm slow. I don't know. Make a wish. Oh, like some jinx type shit? Like it's 11-11. It's something good. You don't know what 11-11 means?

Starting point is 02:39:13 I ain't never heard it before in my life. You heard the Chris Brown album. You too is? I only Chris Brown. Angel numbers. When it's 11-11, you fucking make a wish and you don't tell anybody? No.

Starting point is 02:39:22 Oh, you niggas is a fucker. We're straight from the hood though. So that might be. Well, that we don't know that we don't have that confirmed that y'all are straight and from the hood. That's why the times is important. In fact, it's our fact checking. You have me. Oh, shit. Can't just say I'm straight and from the hood. We go find old boys. What time? New York Times. New York Times. New York Times will go find them. Pick it up. Pick it up at Hudson News.

Starting point is 02:39:50 They'll go find them. Yeah, be careful. Watch what you say. Alright, let's see. Alright, so these niggas lied on 1111. Nah, we said nah. Me and Flip told the truth. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:40:02 Old rappers outperforming young rappers. Did anybody here get a chance to see the new secondary logo for Range Rover that they just came out with? No. No. Where it's two Rs. It's an R over another R upside down. Like an R, and then underneath it is an upside down R.

Starting point is 02:40:20 OK. And this is a big deal because you know Range Rover is not, I mean, Range Rover has not changed their logo in however many years. And this is a big deal because you know Range Rover has not changed their logo in however many years. And this is a big deal because one of them other car companies recently changed their logo and it was trash and everybody has killed them. Jaguar wasn't it? Jaguar.

Starting point is 02:40:34 This is trash too. This is trash. And that's why it's the talking point now because people are like why would Range Rover do something like that? This shit look trash. This shit look like my daughter Drew. This shit look like the Pittsburgh Pirates logo. A P and a P. It don't even look like an R. This shit look trash. This shit look like the Pittsburgh Pirates logo of P and P. You don't even look like R. This shit is trash. Is it real? I'm looking on their website or on their Instagram. I don't see that shit nowhere. This shit is caca. Oh yeah, this shit ugly.

Starting point is 02:40:58 This is real ugly. You all should be proud of your mind. Look, it's still trash. Yeah, I mean, I don't care how you do it, it's trash. All right, so y'all not fucking with that at all? At all, no. Okay, I just wanted to ask. Not at all. I just wanted to ask. Let's see, Trump threatens y'all. How many times you niggas in there?

Starting point is 02:41:13 Malcolm Jemar. That shit goofy. Does anybody care about Cash Out, send us in. I keep forgetting who this nigga is. I don't know who that is. You know the song. I know the song. What song? That's what I say, Ice Cold School. Cash It Out. I keep forgetting who this nigga is. I don't know who that is. You know the song. I know the song.

Starting point is 02:41:25 I was about to say Iceco School. Cashin' Out. Cashin' Out. Riding around with my Nina. Riding around with my Nina. And doesn't ride well with my Nina. Cashin' the nigga that got life. I'm cashin' out.

Starting point is 02:41:33 Cashin' out. This girl, I'm cashin' out. Yeah, that's him. I guess he was cashin' out. Shit, all I'm crying. Because he did all that shit. He did all that shit. They offered him 25.

Starting point is 02:41:41 And he turned it down. What a deal. And he said, no, because I want to have a baby. I want to have a baby. I want to have a baby. I want to have a baby. I want to have a baby. I want to have a baby. I guess he was cashing out shit all I'm crying Because he did all that shit he did all that they offered him 25 and he turned it down He said no cuz I want to have my day in court Well, sir, you have had Like I've wrote a day to do for me 25 to yeah for until you get life No, but life could be it don't gotta be like very very little role

Starting point is 02:42:05 25 is very different in life. It's some consecutive time on there. It's like so I'm gonna read the charges Tell me let me do that. It's 9 million of them. Yeah. Yeah, let me Because it's thank you could be there. Yeah, not it say that you know, you see right there. Don't worry It's coming your way. It's coming your way right now. Okay It's coming your way right now. Okay. Itch Diggie can beat them. I'm saying if they offer you 25 years. Itch Diggie can beat them.

Starting point is 02:42:29 Just listen. Count one, violation of Rico. Itch ain't take them traffic tickets to trial. He want to take stuff to trial. You playing on double parking. Yo niggas, he know he ain't say whatever, boy. Joke. He went to Rykos and paid that money, nigga. He wasn't going to trial. I went to Rykers and paid that money nigga. He wasn't going to trial.

Starting point is 02:42:46 I went to trial. Nah I'm with Ish on that. Ish is 63 years old. If they give him 25 that is life. Your mom's gonna just roll the dice? Yeah so your mom's gonna roll the dice. You ain't got shit to lose. If I'm anything over 50 I'm rolling the dice. Don't do that because this morning I started doing math. I was like there. I got fifteen more summer, so I'm sixty you got to be lit. I can't sit in so I'm a trash bring on the fall. I was doing that math too, but then I realized I'm forty. I'm forty one and if I make it to eighty, I'm just going to do this all again. You know, I'm saying like

Starting point is 02:43:22 that's a lot of fucking time. It'll go faster obviously than the first 40. No, that's why privilege to, to, to think 80 is real. 80 is a real thing. We count no 60. You'd be comfortable. They've been killing us. Hey, you won't make it to 21. You won't make it to 25. Oh, you definitely won't make it to 30. Oh, you're not making it to 40. 50 is R80. You'd be comfortable going at 80 you say. Well, who wouldn't be comfortable going at 80?

Starting point is 02:43:44 Yeah. I mean, I don't want to go at 80. My dad lived to be 90. 80 is 35 more years of lit. My family's older than shit, so I expect to go to 90. 90 is kind of my magic number. But I know you can't bank on 90, but I'm unreasonably hopeful for 90. But if I was looking at jail time,

Starting point is 02:44:00 I would be doing the normal averages. And I'd be like, look, I probably, we get to 60, 70. I'm not taking 25 years. I Don't I don't want to leave jail 70 your 20 more years or 65. That is nuts to me. Yeah, that'll come quick Yeah, that's over. Look a motherfucker. I got area. I have another baby out these bitch I gotta do it to him one more time. They think they think I'm gonna just go peacefully. I Gotta drop one demon Why are you like this I got to I got somebody got a torment this year while I'm

Starting point is 02:44:38 They gotta do that come on mark no unacceptable, please I see your kid Come on, Mark. No. Unacceptable. Please, I've seen your kid. Hey, yo. That my mom. Your kid is a terror to society. Yo, he embarrasses me.

Starting point is 02:44:48 If I was doing 20, I ain't going to lie to him. Hold on, y'all. If I was doing 30 million a year, I'd have another one too. That's true. You got another one in the way. So what you waiting on? I'm not doing 30 million a year. But what did the hoodies do?

Starting point is 02:44:56 You got another one in the way. Hold on, hold on, hold on. But what did the hoodies do? Not 30 million. How you got that part? But what's the number on it? I don't know. I've seen the records.

Starting point is 02:45:04 Mo'Kore asked. We saw it. But what did the hoodies do? You got another one on the way. But what did the hoodies do? I seen the records. Well call S. Call up 3 right now. Hey let's call somebody that can get to the bottom of this. Oh shit. You don't play. That's Rebels?

Starting point is 02:45:22 Yeah. That's my nigga though. I like that about you. You can tell a nigga that's confident. I ain't speak to him that long, but that's my nigga. That's my people, man. I'm going to fuck my better through you, nigga. She's my people now. I love when Ish gets to that part of the people.

Starting point is 02:45:33 I ain't speak to him in a while. He do the head shit too. That boy right there, that's my man. Yo, come out with me one time, please. Please, yo. Come out with him, Ish. Please, just one time in Atlanta, one time. For the old times sake, so these bitches can always be there.

Starting point is 02:45:48 Hey, yo, Ish, don't eat an orange pills, please. Oh, no, no, no, you can't come out with me. You know what I mean? Are you going to behave like that again? Eat that shit. Eat that shit before you get there. No, all right, never mind. Never mind.

Starting point is 02:45:57 Get all that citrus in you before you get there. Come in there, citrusy. Don't. This nigga crazy. Do that shit when you get back in the white van. Nigga, eatin' pills in the club and niggas fire. No, that's crazy. It didn't seem nothing, bro.

Starting point is 02:46:09 He just doing the thing. Or just swallowing orange pills. Still back in the white band. White bitches is weird, yo. White bitches don't give a fuck what you doing. Hot black, hot black, home catcher bar. Just tossing some orange pills back. Yo, this nigga's a fool.

Starting point is 02:46:24 Had to hustle a Club on fire. God damn. Hustler Club on fire. You must have had fun this weekend in the Bronx, huh? Oh man. I had a good time, me and my baby. Yeah? I had a good time with me and my baby.

Starting point is 02:46:36 Yeah, man. We had a good time before we got there. We had a good time. Okay, ready for your trip? Yeah, yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready to go. Let's see what these kids are up to. You bought some new Hoochie Daddy swim trunks?

Starting point is 02:46:51 No, I got enough swim trunks. I ain't about nothing new. Me too. But let's see what's going on. I thought you said you don't wear no old ones though. I'm just saying last year. Oh, I'm off of that. I'm off of that.

Starting point is 02:47:00 It's tight now. It's tight now. Well, yeah, it's that way. It's not that I'm trying to be Hoochie. I can't fit some of them shit. Some of them shit's fitting a little. I mean, that's right up your alley. That's tight now. It's tight now. Uh Well, yeah, it's that way. It's not that I'm trying to be I can't fit some of them shit some of them Just fit a little me Little leopard joints I bought from the Mardur on three years ago. I tried to avoid yesterday. I wasn't a cheetah. I Wanted a cougar. I want none of that shit with leopards. I

Starting point is 02:47:24 Was trash out there my new you go you you're gonna be head ass out there my My girl is my girl. So I ain't gonna have no choice. Her middle name is head ass. I spent on vacation On vacation. Hey, we just had that come we just had that combo yesterday. Well, yeah, we we don't I go we don't we gonna do it I just want to see what these fucking kids like. And I got a surprise for him. I got a surprise, I think I told y'all. I can't say it on here, because it's a surprise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I got a little surprise for him, we'll see.

Starting point is 02:47:53 I wanna see what the kids is like out of town. Every time I talk to Trey, well, the last three times I've talked to Trey, his mom is in the background right there too. Like, on the phone. Why you making that face? Because he looks so disgusting. The way he's spoken 30 years, so I mean, shit.

Starting point is 02:48:08 Yo, when that baby mom get on the phone that you ain't spoke to in 27 years, it's still. Oh my God. Well, you can take that phone out. But she's so happy to hear from me. She's like, you have to keep our baby safe out here, girl. Shut up.

Starting point is 02:48:21 You know what it is, nigga. You know what it is. It's the dad you told wouldn't be here. Yeah is it's the dad you told him wouldn't be here it's the dad you told him was evil girl yep we go to Turks yo dad's that's going through it in your co-parenting situation just be patient in 26 years just be patient in 26 years, she'll see it your way. She'll see it your way, 26 years. Or not. Or if your kid is bad early and she calling you when he about 12, 13,

Starting point is 02:48:53 like you better come get this little bad ass nigga. Yeah, I told you. Keep thinking you could raise my genes without me. I knew them genes were. Thinking sometimes. Hey, them genes were sending your number through my caller ID at some point now, maybe not at four, five and six. Jordan Ash worked their way back.

Starting point is 02:49:11 Yeah, come 10, 11, 12, it won't just be a single mom type of thing. So it took you, how was that though, the conversation, you don't mind having a lot of, you don't hold grudges, right? Or you let it go because you able to have a conversation with a. Ain't no grudge to hold. She did the best job in the world of raising my oldest boy. True, but that mentality.

Starting point is 02:49:32 Oldest boy, my first boy. That mentality comes from maturity. You know, we're gonna be. Well, I'm gonna let you understand what I'm saying. Like, that mentality comes from maturity. Because I'm pretty sure you wasn't saying that a couple years, years ago. Hell no. It all comes from maturity. It all comes from maturity. I'm pretty sure you wasn't saying that a couple years, years ago. Hell no.

Starting point is 02:49:46 It all comes from maturity. It all comes from maturity. In your 30s you think, oh, fuck this, I'm not raising a child through the courts this time. And all the shit you think in your 30s. And it's like, at 45 it's like, oh, I was bugging the fuck out.

Starting point is 02:50:03 If I go do what I was supposed to do and she do what she's supposed to do, then we should be able to do what we supposed to do, whether we was best friends for 25, 26 years or not. So I'm happy to hear from her. I'm happy that she's married. I'm happy that she's happy that we could do things like this, like in your 40s,

Starting point is 02:50:18 it's time to be happy about shit. When you make as much money as me. I can't complain. They said money don't buy happiness though, so you can still make that money and not be happy. Exactly. Well, that's true. But I got a lot of people in my life.

Starting point is 02:50:35 I see you. Let's go freeze. That nigga freeze. Freeze energy different than that boy. Niggas ain't shopping at the rice store. They got happiness. Hey now. They sell it. You got to go to the store. They got happiness. They sell it at the back. They're going to the back. You know they're doing movies, the wall.

Starting point is 02:50:46 This is special. This is special. Toot, toot, toot, toot. Yeah. Yeah. Move the library book, the wall move. Yeah, go back there. They got happiness back there.

Starting point is 02:50:54 The back rooms. All the happiness back there. All colors. Go back there. All sizes. That's just a myth too. Happiness ain't even as expensive as they make it out to be. Hey, happiness.

Starting point is 02:51:04 I can believe that. It ain't a lot. I can believe that. It ain't even as expensive as they make it out to be. Hey, happiness, it ain't a lot. It ain't a lot. How much happiness cost you think? Well, a target trip for my girl while I'm in the crib chilling. That's the best. Send her to Target real quick. Let me get a long time. Hey, let me see what else I need.

Starting point is 02:51:19 I can get happiness for undefined at all. How long? Short, now you're talking short. Short, a band-aid. A temporary band-aid, a little temporary band-aid. Little temporary band-aid. What would be the yearly amount for a friend that you think that you would need to make to be happy, like consistently happy?

Starting point is 02:51:40 Listen, this is a great conversation. In real life, I think that you should be able to get your happiness for free. True. That's not true. But in this conversation, I believe that, but in this conversation, that's who I believe that should. Yeah. Should, should, should, should. But for the shallow Bane people out there, I don't think that much given your, given who you are right now and shoulds off the table. What's the number? Listen, do I have an ancillary 2,500 to spend every week?

Starting point is 02:52:10 Cause that's 25, 25 is fine. How many weeks is fine? That's 10, 12 bucks 20. You said an ancillary 10 grand. Yeah, so I'm talking about an ancillary buck 20. So you still gotta pay all your bills. He talking about ancillary. Yeah, ancillary.

Starting point is 02:52:24 That's what makes it ancillary. So you're talking like maybe with a gold, half a million a year you would be able to. No, that's what I'm saying. What do you think? Nigga, I was happy homeless, but since we up now. I was homeless and was not happy. I don't know what the fuck you was at.

Starting point is 02:52:35 Yeah, it's your line. What the fuck you was saying. I'm not lying. I ain't lying. I'm not lying about it. I've been around you when you wasn't homeless. We was having some hella cool parties. We wasn't here.

Starting point is 02:52:44 Bro, yeah, we had, we... You weren't the happiest, my nigga. We had a good time, bro. We had a great time, bro. I ain't gonna lie. Niggas was happy. I had more fun, bro. Hold on now.

Starting point is 02:52:53 I had more fun, bro. Niggas was happy. I had more fun, bro. I'm talking about. This shit may look different now. You by yourself in the room. I hear that. Happiness.

Starting point is 02:53:00 Yes. Oh, some niggas was happy. I was pretty happy. I didn't have a number for that. Not number distractions, happiness. I was pretty happy, bro. I'm talking about. Me too. I wasn't happy homeless, but I was happy, bro. I was pretty happy. Not number for that. Not number for that. Distractions, happiness, I'm talking about. I was pretty happy, bro. Me too, I wasn't happy homeless, but I was happy, bro.

Starting point is 02:53:08 Thank you, E. Yeah, I take it back. Yeah. Happy, bro. Yeah, I was happy. I was hella happy, bro. Real happy, bro. If I had enough money to pay the bills and do like maybe that.

Starting point is 02:53:16 So he said pay the bills and have an extra 2,500 a week. Yeah. The nigga was happy when they couldn't pay the bills. I was just looking for my bro Davis. Yeah, man, that's a trick with him. His bills might be butlers and mansion fees. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying like like I think if I was at I think if I was a Be careful, you know, you know they listen to 1.5 a year Consistent, I think I'll be sure about the say how many years you got to make that for that because it's No, if I was consistently at one, please mean period I'll be sure I'm about to say how many years you got to make that for that because this no if I was consistently at one point you just

Starting point is 02:53:48 mean period I'll be fine you'd be happy I'd be more than content mortified about I don't think that about you yeah what cuz you're gonna want you won't get tired of that one point five one more we cheat well not if you're not a 50 you may 1.5 we back to cheating nigga you cheat. Well, not a 50, nigga. You make 1.5, we back to cheating, nigga. You. We. No, no, we. No, us.

Starting point is 02:54:09 I don't speak French. Tell you what we were doing. Fuck you talking about. I'm telling you what. All right, now what's the number? I'm telling you, look at me. Now what's the number? You said you make 1.5.

Starting point is 02:54:16 If you make 1.5, we back. What's the base number? For you. It's 1.5 or is it? No. I was just saying. So now what's that number? For you. It's 1.5 or is it? No. That's what I'm saying. So now what's that number? Nigga, 350.

Starting point is 02:54:30 350 grand a year? Are you back at cheating? No, I'm not saying that. That's what I'm asking you. Oh, no money. You're just sick. But are we all over the place? Hold up, but 350,000 is not enough.

Starting point is 02:54:41 350 is your number to be happy. You said, I don't believe me, but 1.5, what's your number? To be happy? Yeah. The times got a very happy now. See this is why anybody can't just say what they want to the times.

Starting point is 02:54:54 The times got a chance. No, that's what I'm saying, 350 bro? Okay. It's not enough. You can't tell me what's enough for my happiness though. What does your happiness consist of? That's an internal question, bro. Cause everybody's happiness ain't the same.

Starting point is 02:55:08 Yo, how much money? I'ma keep wanting more though. That's what I'm saying. So the happiness, the happiness. It's gonna be temporary. I don't need that. It don't take a lot for me. Yo bro, I'm telling you,

Starting point is 02:55:18 like even in my older age, bro, the things that I would normally do with money, I don't do it. It don't take the money. No, so what I'm saying is, dog, at certain numbers, I could travel as much as I want, I could travel in a decent manner, my house would be fine. So what's that number?

Starting point is 02:55:36 I just told you. He said 1.5 for him. Yeah. If I'm at 1.5 or two, somewhere in that range, I'm fine, bro. That's the point. The thing is what makes you happy. For me, the happiness comes from the peace. Like not having to stress about certain things. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm money now. That's what I'm saying, yeah. That's my point. I just want you to get it without having to go back to the block.

Starting point is 02:56:06 Why are you not happy now? It's family to me. I didn't say I'm not happy. I'm saying I would be content. Like happiness and contentment are two different things. They're two different things. Yeah, right now I'm content. I'm not fulfilled.

Starting point is 02:56:20 Let me ask you a question. Because there's still gaps in my life that I want to create. Yo, don't say that again, yo. Does everybody in here know what makes them happy? My girl my I think a lot of people don't know what make you happy. That's true. My girl nigga I'm looking up school prices and them shits are a monster on I told you Yeah, the house prices are monster in. Yeah, and taxes are another monster.

Starting point is 02:56:45 Yeah, my clarion is a joke. King Kong and Gossels, I'm the bitch. You could be happy for- Bro, my clarion taxes are a mortgage. You could be happy for a while, but then when you start to experience new things, you start to come across new things, you're going to want more. But I would want that in a form of experiences. It don't got to necessarily be material shit. some but some some people to flip point are never happy

Starting point is 02:57:07 like you get that house right then you go to the homies house and that would be like I've gone house searching and I went to just cuz I like to not cuz I can afford it but just cuz I like to see shit I've gone house searching and I went to just cause I like to not cause I can afford it but just cause I like to see shit I've gone to see the 20 and 25 and 30 million dollars motivation. Believe it or not. He can afford it. Some of them I walk out of there saying Never. Thank God. I don't own this motherfucker waking up. Oh, that shit would be a headache. It would ruin life Yeah, it would make everything miserable work my day-to-day looking at all This is too much overhead dog too much

Starting point is 02:57:49 Nobody needs it Joe, but you don't know that if you just on some bullshit This shit that takes maturity fantasy this year the one I do when I sat this year and I said you did you see this? I was no talking about right. I'm gonna see it It's that What he's also mad. I know, I know. But I'm just saying. You gotta be careful to keep and stick to the rivers and the next thing we used to.

Starting point is 02:58:10 Yeah, bro, and again, if I had a house and my house was 5,500 square feet, 5,000 square feet, that's more than enough house for me. Same. I saw the interview you did in the kitchen that night. When you gave the lady the nickname. I was smiling downstairs in the kitchen that night? When you gave the lady the nickname. I was smiling downstairs in the kitchen. There's a lady with a nickname.

Starting point is 02:58:31 We watched that. You're a fool, yo. No, like that's more than enough for me. I don't think, I'm going to be honest, listening, I don't think I would be happy. I'm happy with my family, I'm happy. They bring me stability, but the fact that I always want more and I have to go get it, it causes me to, it's not happiness for me.

Starting point is 02:58:53 I used to feel like that and I don't anymore. I think we're switching it. And I realized, you know what I realized honestly is the house thing. It's when I started to go house hunting and it was like, okay, I can afford a house like this, but I don't want that. I don't want that. Or I'll pay this, but I'm not gonna get the biggest house I can find for that amount.

Starting point is 02:59:10 I wanna get the house that makes me, and it was at that moment that I felt like I had matured because there was a time where I would have felt insecure about that. Yeah, bro. Or I would have felt like I needed it. Nah, you're leaving that there for your happiness and your soul.

Starting point is 02:59:19 I'm gonna keep it real with you. But wait. Even cars and shit, I just don't look at them the same no more. Me neither. I don't look at cars the same. I used I don't look at cars the same I used to I got clothes out there. I don't I'm a sneak ahead. I buy sneakers all the time, but outside of that bro. I don't really want much. Yeah So if you go through depression 1.5 we cheat in Brazil to

Starting point is 02:59:44 So if you go through depression 1.5, we cheat in Brazil to Beat we thank you. I'd be cheating foreign. I beat we are Croatian your girl gonna beat the shit out of you No, I was just going to the... He's going to go with his white ass. He got black shit motherfuckin boy. You was saying... So Mark, if you go through depression, happiness is what?

Starting point is 03:00:16 Dormant at that moment? You know, sometimes in everybody's situation is different from depression. Sometimes it's chemical. Sometimes it's not about your material circumstances. Some people have like things that are triggered by things and sometimes mine is. Sometimes it's seasonal, sometimes it's triggered by like my winter stuff happens because of things that have happened to me in the winter time. But it's not about what's going on in my life. Like there's nothing that I

Starting point is 03:00:37 can get that would make that better. I don't want more. I'm not like, oh if I have more money, if I have more. It's not that for me. I'm generally pretty... So there's nothing that can be done to had more, it's not that for me. I'm generally pretty, like I don't do- So there's nothing that can be done to make that, that's what you're saying, like no material things? Not material, the three things, I think I said this before, the three things that my therapist always recommends and others do often for depression is like

Starting point is 03:00:58 exercise, therapy, and medicine. He says you should do like two of those three things. And so for me, I don't really like the drugs. So, Exercise and therapy. So exercise and therapy, and talk therapy, for me are like the two things. And when I'm doing that, I'm generally okay.

Starting point is 03:01:11 Now sometimes things will happen, and we all have stressors, but in general, those are the things that keep me level. I mean, speaking to you, I realize that sometimes, I went through forms of depression or anxiety, but I think I just fight it differently. I think that the environment I came from, it was sort of looked down upon if you acknowledged that.

Starting point is 03:01:34 So I fight it differently. I'm just in one of my moods. You might not afford it. But it's not a mood, I'm going through something. It's not a mood, like if I could wake up and just be mad at my family or be mad I don't want to talk to, that's, it's not a mood, like if I could wake up and just be mad at my family or be mad I don't want to talk to, that's, that's, it's not a mood, you're affecting people. But you know what though?

Starting point is 03:01:48 You know. You might not afford it, like you said, where you came from, you couldn't allow it to happen, so you just kind of suppressed it. That's not really fighting it though, that's just like stuffing it over here. That link is to adulthood. Yes. What I mean is that like, when I speak to Mark and Mark has explained the certain things he went through,

Starting point is 03:02:06 Mark and I had a conversation. I'm like, okay, got you. Then I started to say, I've experienced that. I went through that too. Yeah, I felt that way, but I handled it different. Meaning like, I didn't speak to somebody. I was just like, man, I love a couple of days, I might go take a shower, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 03:02:22 But shout out to you and shout out to everybody. Yeah, but that's the journey and we all gotta get this. I tell everybody out there as we rap this, like yo, just like see a therapist, do what you gotta do, find some way to find joy and happiness. I just have the opinion that, you know, we say you can't find joy and money,

Starting point is 03:02:37 but also it's really hard to find joy when you don't have any. Lil Roman talk. Gotcha. Yo. I don't know man. My wife can't, yo, first of all, I should have never let my wife watch this podcast, much less reach out to y'all, man.

Starting point is 03:02:50 First of all, she walked around the last week. She smacked my ass three different times. Went, ho-am. Which, yo. I was like, I fucking hate this nigga, man. I fucking hate this nigga. Ho-am. Yo.

Starting point is 03:03:01 T-shirt's coming next week. And she thinks it's the funniest shit every time. The T-shirt's coming next week. Oh, what, what the funniest shit every time. The T-shirt's coming next week. Oh, what, what, what? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You can do that by your business, nigga. You got the T-shirt, the Ho-Wam T-shirt?

Starting point is 03:03:11 Of course. I'm buying Ho-Wam! Show this nigga, nigga. We can't keep putting out these shirts at the same time. Oh, shit. Those shirts is coming when? Next week, nigga? Oh, shit.

Starting point is 03:03:20 Yo, we're with my man. They really are already here, but it's OK. But they dropping next week? No, they out they dropped already Oh, thank God. Yeah Stupid yo, I'm old. I'm old niggas Nigga Al Green one of them niggas pit family will get you man I'm telling you I gotta call the times back if you was dropping the wham shirt How much you made now off the that's that is hoodies and the whams

Starting point is 03:03:48 And did you factor in like the the the one-offs? Autism awareness. Oh, yeah breast cancer History mom small people's month. You think I'm a fucking fool. You can't say shit like that. That's pure T.P. Fuck. Fuck. How was?

Starting point is 03:04:18 It's a dirty job somebody got to do it. Mark's over there like this guy. What else do you mean by attention? Nothing. Nothing at all. That Nothing? Nothing. Nothing at all. That's the thing. Nothing at all. No. Nothing.

Starting point is 03:04:29 He did that same shit going on his phone. All right, no, we found his sleepers. Sleepers. I'm gonna go with a young lady by the name of Sophie Marks. And this record is called Easy to Dream. This might be a banger. Let me put my headphones on. Easy to Dream This is Sophie Marks right here, let's go, easy to dream To be in our lives You and me Talking, cause I'm other friend Well it's easy To cheat

Starting point is 03:05:32 You'll come back again After all the rain Making everything about me I'm making why wild play the fool I'm sticking to the medium I've been waiting for somebody To love, to love, to love Honey, can can shake your troubles free

Starting point is 03:06:08 Be honest, you wanna put all your pain on me Cause you've been talking with some other friend Now it's easy to cheat You'll come back again after all the reading Thinking everything about me I'm making why you play the fool I'm staying to believe you Staying too beneath you You're waiting for somebody To love, to love, to love

Starting point is 03:06:53 Don't you get tired of it Shady, while running head-front Baby, one day we'll face your face escape Girl, the days are fleeting and I'm not that annoying no more That's right! Sound like the new Miami Vice soundtrack, god damn it! Sound like the new Miami Vice soundtrack, god damn it. To love, to love, to love. Wait up, wait up, wait up, wait up, wait up, wait up, whoa!

Starting point is 03:07:31 Brand new music from Sophie Marks. This record is called Easy to Dream, available on your phone and on DSPs. Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy y got that up right now. track... Oh man, I'ma go this record, well, Gibbs and Alchemist are dropping Alfredo II later this week. For sure. And this is the title track, 1995, oh excuse me, the intro track, 1995. Shit, shit, shit, shit, shit. Get your ass on my dick, bitch. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 03:08:18 This the way God planned it, hope you can't stand it. We on die, we multiply like rabbits. We're like like an addict. Took the high road on niggas, I ride Nova Passers Nothing in your catalog plastic, you shackin' like tenaces My father Kane, I turn his sons to bastards, built an ass like Joseph Jackson No relaxin', rabbit niggas to plastic It's alright if they won't start this shit It's alright cause I'm tough my shit It's alright, it's alright

Starting point is 03:08:54 Niggas thinkin' I'ma still be your rapper It's alright, it's alright Niggas thinkin' niggas feelin' what I just said Had to come back with a sequel, ain't no equal Riggs and Murk's all this shit V2 Pluggin' the feathers off this ego when I shed I'm the boss, they're in my section Now I'm the Marlowe in my section Another review, nothing new, another crew of Freddy clones I put more niggas on this field than Jerry Jones Need that man to go Yeah I'm gonna leave that man alone It's alright if they wanna talk that shit

Starting point is 03:09:33 Yeah The album dropped Friday It's alright if they wanna talk that shit I heard that nigga never walk right bitch It's alright if they wanna talk that shit It's alright if they wanna talk that shit Bitch it's Nathan, I'ma still be your buddy It's alright if they hate me, I'ma still be your rapper, yeah See some great, that the bill was alright, yeah We smashed like mashed potatoes, taxi vaders

Starting point is 03:09:48 Shouted my brother honey, I just made like 1.5 in Asia, yeah Man this shit crazy, how a nigga knew if the Nick rocks his whip Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I'ma still be your rapper, yeah Niggas hate me, I'ma still be your rapper, yeah See some great, that the bill was alright, yeah We smashed like mashed potatoes, taxi vaders Shouted my brother honey, I just made like 1.5 in Asia, yeah

Starting point is 03:10:04 Man this shit crazy, how nigga look with a nick box A red whip Jen poppin' Netflix Yeah I was in the cell Making up a set list For my next show For my next lick

Starting point is 03:10:13 I was suicidal With a death wish Yeah I threw out it With the sex trip Know my baby mama About to set a trip I don't give a shit

Starting point is 03:10:21 21 niggas ain't with shit These niggas ain't living it Oh, reek I was selling red meat In a box shop He on Spinner's bitch Got a bitch I'm about to set trip I don't give a shit These niggas ain't with the shit These niggas ain't living it Oh, real, I was selling red here in the box Said he on spinners, bitch, got a dope voice, sir Dick, I'm from the Eastside, Crown City

Starting point is 03:10:33 Get straight thugged out, you a cartoon thug Nipsey, but I broke them all Hey, turn it down Hey, Conductor Williams Conductor, that's what I'm talking about, right? Yeah Yo Just make your little slaps yo He about to start some shit. I ain't start no shit. They know what they are. Hey Conductor Williams. We love you

Starting point is 03:10:54 Just make your slaps yo this boy right here Leave leave him leave him Leave him. Cabbage bitch I'm coming right at you, put on your 3D glasses Don't take your mask, we ain't giving passes Foul, the front row tickets to your show and make that shit disastrous Now shoot up the front and give them bitches cancer Hold your hold, we're in for ransom, money call you scared to answer I know you niggas thought I was scared to answer back These hip hop cops is on my set, I really been plotting on my attack Niggas really don't want no smoke, they want

Starting point is 03:11:45 that clap shit off the back Man this rap beef shit is corny, now I'd rather not be attached To none of these lame ass niggas We can't do another interview without the gang train getting mentioned Knock a nigga off with this bulldog, fuck switches and stitches Send a salmon back in your fanny pack, hold you sleeping with your bitches Pissing bitches I said, no, freaky, but you're doing so good. I said, no, freaky, but you're doing so good. Yeah, let's go to my house. I'm back, bitch. Because you're two of the most qualified for the job.

Starting point is 03:12:10 50 in the cliff. Yeah. And that's how I got to the end of my day. I'm back, bitch. I'm back, bitch. I'm back, bitch. I'm back, bitch. I'm back, bitch. I'm back, bitch. Bitch, you're two of the most qualified for the job. 50 in the cliff.

Starting point is 03:12:26 Yeah. And that is 1995 by Freddie Gibbs and Alchemist off of Alfredo II, which will be in your phone and on DSPs later this week. All right, I'm playing R&B. I don't know if anybody's played this, but if they did, I don't care. This is Kamari, Head in a Jar. I want you, head in a jar.

Starting point is 03:12:50 Yo, give what up. Good luck. Get high. First thing in the morning, of course you put on that U.S. sweater. Just like you always do Tears drip from a faucet Index to play on that television Just like you always do You put the volume on the, for the neighbors down below But I'm stuck in places why I grew to you

Starting point is 03:13:31 Walk away, I'll grow you, and I'll be by your nose I'm the closest here that I've been to you I've been to you, cause you keep on Hey, me job Here on your high stand I'll spend my life left With you by Hey, me job If it's a self-wagant thing

Starting point is 03:14:02 There'll be something to you I want you Is the self-gone thing, something to you? I want you Mine's a prison, nobody can come Nobody's with the own body I try my best not to trip These walls are paper thin Every now and then I hear voices in the wind

Starting point is 03:14:22 Would it flow, scream, death that we could have been With the ones who are alone, or our neighbors down below But I'm stuck in place as I grew to you Walk away, I grow you, And how am I to know you? I'm the closest here that I've been to you Cause you keep my Candy doll Here on your ice and

Starting point is 03:15:02 I'll spend my life there With my Candy doll I'll spend my life, let me lie Angel If it's the self-wagant dance, don't be something sweet I'll watch you Angel If it's the self-wagant dance, don't be something sweet Ooh Is the self-gone dance gonna be something to me? Ooh, I watch in the way you give someone a free embrace This is me in my place, my place

Starting point is 03:15:38 No goodbyes, no overdue, hold this thing outweigh Even my place, my things I want you Cut That's Kamari, head in the jar Cut Biggish, what you got for us today? That was fire

Starting point is 03:16:01 That was fire I'm going to Alex Isley, Masego and Jack Don. Song is called Good and Plenty. ["Good and Plenty"] Take up some space I think you should stay I think you should stay I think you should stay I think you should stay

Starting point is 03:16:52 You'll get every little bit You ain't never seen a drip like this Heaven at your fingertips Don't you let him intercept Just stay here I can't wait All day stand and see Hope you don't sleep on me

Starting point is 03:17:25 I got good and plenty And I'll be all the spaces in between It's magic when I taste ya in the bin And average days spent all in the sheets And I find it when I tell you what you mean Chemistry, intimate memories Every time I give you all my energy Emphasis, never sleep

Starting point is 03:18:02 Say you won't have me All day sitting and singing Hope you don't sleep on me I got good and plenty to see See, see I'm tasting, see Don't you sleep Oh, don't you sleep Don't you sleep, don't you You've got good Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, You have me

Starting point is 03:19:10 All day sitting and sleeping Hope you don't sleep on me I've got good and plenty Bring me up, bring me up Bring me up That is Good and Plenty by Alex Isley, Masego and Jack Dine. I'm going to the new Rayquan album, Emperor's New Clothes. I'm going with my favorite song on there to join with Ray Quentin and I, it's called The Omerita. In the peelin' underworld of Wonder Girl Dope fiends lovin' shootin' they nuggets up Extreme criminality, I'm like the raw steams The offsprings, all of this toughness out my galaxy Frankie Yale of the jail, silks, diamond spiders

Starting point is 03:20:12 We master writers, we dumb out Relentless on the come out Nocturnal habits to mavens I'm too insulated This is just a crusade, nigga nigga we made it Get into it Everybody rise up Everybody up Everybody up Everybody up Everybody up Night of the long knives, focus the gun toaders

Starting point is 03:20:34 The boulder's getting over, it's over now Eating hummus and rovers, each leaking Bumble and gophers get rocked and they loafers Tryna stunt, blunt frontin' No one niggas will notice we jewel kings Hate the bother, you robbing, you don't even argue with us, slide it off, make a movie nodding off Drinking makers to paintbrushes, we cape makers

Starting point is 03:20:52 Louis luggage, puffin' the Dewey brothers, we straight haters Barragamos glass shooties, what's this? Just a silk and a crunch wrist, your lunch niggas Call a chef for these leftovers, they eat anything Some niggas get caught in they best moments We the examples, we who we said we was Never faked it, ones who are jury they couldn't play with The ones who stayed rich, details of my revolutionary

Starting point is 03:21:14 ways Collegues studies the CIA shit Who has true power? The Torah are sin of God leaders Quran readers are palm readers Witchcrafters are christian pastors, rich rappers Mark said, religion's the opiant of the masses, when Nas says, I got thoughts as if a therapist said, what time you wanna learn what's in my head, well I'm reclinin' I'm just stating facts as I respond, like when the army walks, with assault rifles and the army bases far beyond New York, I'm firing blocks like Hamas, guys and emergency triage, extended magazine

Starting point is 03:21:44 that targets off, heart beating stops, cars beating, cops pull you over To check for warrants, so give your best performance Nobody got time for petty in the city of bosses Syrians is my psychiatry office This morning I woke feeling great so I went to an auction Ticket lost in a different scene, spent the ticket on art So interesting, a painting of a fiend in Hudson Yard Another painting was black natives before Central Park You know the claims, this was all natives terrain

Starting point is 03:22:09 And the year was like 16-something, so could this mean hustling began? When the Indian finessed a dustman with opium and horseback This way before crack, we always been the mecca for supplying demand And every era ledgers in this land was going hand to hand Damn, it's mind boggling who we are, the modern kings It's spooky in Harlem, Bronx, Brooklyn and all of Queens It's that and Alan, real type shit, dying species of real men I feel that shit, yo Everybody young, young Everybody young, young

Starting point is 03:22:45 Everybody red bow Everybody red bow Everybody young, young There's Zio Murta, Rayquan, and Nas off the album, what's the album called? Emperor's New Clothes. Emperor's New Clothes. Solid project. Go out and cop that. Alright man, good part. For sure. Good part today man. This the squad right here. Boom, boom, boom, boom.

Starting point is 03:23:08 This the crew. This the squad right here man. Oh god, this is so stupid. It is, what? Come on man, this nigga's an idiot. Why y'all get mad at me? Cause every squad is the squad. I ain't get mad at nobody man.

Starting point is 03:23:19 I'm chilling. That speaks to his fucking pension of being able to find talent. Yeah. It does. I know y'all don't want you to shit because y'all read the little article or whatever and y'all want raises.

Starting point is 03:23:30 But I mean, shit. What's wrong with you? Some of us can't get raises in fixed contracts. Not if you're locked in. Fixed contracts. Not if you're locked in. Yeah, niggas can't get raises fixed. If you wait a second, if you would've waited a second.

Starting point is 03:23:45 This shit fixed, yo. I got something for this nigga. I got something for my brother. He taught me well. Hey. Lil Ray Charles for him, man. I mean, another nigga that was blind. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 03:24:02 He was blind. Flip might have been blind when he signed. Hey. Hey. I mean he was blind. Flip might have been blind when he signed. Hey! That was good. That was, that was. You got it. I was blind as hell. But now I can see.

Starting point is 03:24:17 I can see that. I got LASIK, nigga. Yeah, listen, if any of y'all, if any of y'all want to prove our value to you all to the company quit in the middle of The contract and just show your worth. I'll pay I'll pay if that trick works My father, the people shall abide. Night and day. What? Hey! These are the songs that they play before something happened. Listen man, keep us in your prayers.

Starting point is 03:24:57 Yes sir. Lord knows we need to be there. Shout out to every legend that we have lost recently in the past few months. For sure., but not forgotten We love you. We miss you and thank you for your service each and every one of y'all Again man Yo imagine being in the studio though in the 40s or 50s and coming up with this Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

Starting point is 03:25:32 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

Starting point is 03:25:40 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey arriba, durci, hasta, la vista, arv, watch, so long, goodbye, or simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Lastly, the baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel. The closed-minded women want you to teach them things,

Starting point is 03:26:04 grab you a title, or you might need it shout to you niggas out there that's not flossing man get you a little new dental floss stick clean the fucking shit out there fucking last night's dinner out your teeth you dirty bastard. Y'all get the water pick. Yeah I mean the water water pick shout out to Freeze got me that good water pick. Yeah me me too. Oh yeah, that's good. Freeze got me this shit to feel good. The water pick, the nostril, nose, the hair shaver. I be in the bathroom shaver to shit out my nostril.

Starting point is 03:26:35 I feel 10 years younger. I feel like it's real when they put that Beijing on. It's your mark when they put that dye on, nigga. You got, look, your your new hair new growth is great Y'all it down out there will be back in the New York Times in five years Maybe less if price picks come to play y'all hold it down until next time Rest in peace Malcolm Jamal Warner man, we love you And Ozzy

Starting point is 03:27:08 Yes sir, and Ozzy God damn No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no JVP, why would you be without the JVP? We'll fold that up right now! Don't look away now! Pussy!

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The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 845 | "Atheist Mingle"

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