The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 847 | "From The 19’s"
Episode Date: July 30, 2025Joe returns to the couch fresh off vacation as he shares a couple stories from his past week in Turks with his cohosts (18:35) before Ice shares his thoughts about a recent Ja Rule, Nelly, & Eve conce...rt (40:33). The JBP then reacts to the mass shooting in New York City over the weekend (49:45), Joe praises the new Chris Brown & Bryson Tiller record (1:04:00) and the State of Hip-Hop following Freddie Gibbs & The Alchemist release of ‘Alfredo 2’ (1:12:20). Also, Deion Sanders is cancer free (1:40:30), Deandre Ayton’s scandal with an Instagram model (1:49:53), Tracie Ellis Ross reacts to the death of Malcolm-Jamal Warner leading the room to discuss some of the internet’s feelings over posting pictures after someone’s passing (2:33:40), Sydney Sweeney’s American Eagle ad (2:47:05), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden Joe | KenTheMan - “First” Ice | Starlito & Don Trip (feat. 8Ball & MJG) - “Unrated Version” Parks | Benny the Butcher - “77 Club” Marc | Freddie Gibbs & The Alchemist (feat. Anderson .Paak) - “Ensalada”
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What's up?
You want to share?
What's up?
I just woke up.
What y'all talking about?
Yeah.
Just woke up.
You want to be pod napping?
Yeah, you want to share?
No, I'm just saying.
I was just talking about, you know what I mean?
I was out of town.
I listened to the pod.
I need my headphones today.
I ain't going to hold you.
It's right there. It's right there. don't worry. I ain't gonna lie.
I'm trying to get distracted.
Yeah, yeah.
Keep your thought.
Distracted.
You were listening to the part.
Top three, now one and two, boy, watch your mouth.
Say no more, you all right?
That's true.
Top three, now one and two, man.
Hold up.
But you was what?
I actually think it was number three.
You actually was three?
Yeah, you were three.
You were three.
I think you were three.
I just said top three, now one and two.
Top three, now one and two.
No, he said that, we slow.
Yeah, yeah, we slow. I just said that. No, or two. He said that, we slow.
Yeah, we slow.
I just said that.
No, I was talking, I was listening.
I was listening to the part.
Just seeing, congratulating everybody.
Like everybody had a good time.
We had a great time.
Looked like everybody got along.
That's not what you were saying.
I saw y'all.
Y'all was on some Mr. Gang right here.
That was fly.
It was compelling.
Yeah.
Let's go.
Also some of the worst takes I ever heard.
Oh my God.
Oh my. Some of the worst takes I've ever heard. Oh my God.
Some of the worst takes I've ever heard in my life.
And I have to come back and tell y'all because Hulk Hogan.
Wait, what made it a bad, who side you on?
Make up fuck Hulk Hogan.
Thank you.
What are we in here for?
That's my guy.
Now, maybe I wouldn't have just had the whole eulogy
like you did, cause you started with love,
and you kicked it back.
I just maybe would have said nothing,
but Funko Gogan.
Which was my boy.
He did it too many times.
But anyway, I'm not here to rehash things,
a few things I am.
That's the best.
I'm not even going to lie.
The Drake, oh.
Rick and Faya.
Y'all was in here rubbing your pussies together.
Scissoring.
Yeah, y'all was in here rubbing your pussies together
Know it is y'all I had it to no Canadian club shut the fuck up don't talk to me about what y'all about to do
This song was fire. I know
It was I know
You didn't like it. It didn't do nothing for you. I told y'all that shit was true.
No, that shit.
I don't care what you said.
Both of y'all niggas hate it.
That shit sound like Canadian heat.
No, it does not.
No, it don't.
Yes, it does.
It sounds like it does sound like summertime heat.
Oh, please.
It sounds like London heat.
Get the country life.
Yeah, London heat.
It sound like a Canadian doing London heat.
It's what it sound like.
I don't give a fuck.
Where are you from?
That's where I'm from. Some shit that sound good, sound good. he from. That man down there, man, I'm in this club.
That man done shake that with that girl.
Shut the fuck up, nigga.
Shut the fuck up.
What are you talking about?
He's talking about his voice.
Just shut up, daddy.
He like the last song that was bullshit.
Remember that last song that came out?
You like that shit.
Let's go.
I like that record.
I like that record.
I like the contract.
You get up from that.
I like that record.
I like that record. I'm that record. I like that record.
You're trying to make me have a pussy cause y'all had a pussy.
Y'all was in here rubbing your pussies together.
You still hating.
Oh, what is going on?
I got him.
You got him.
You're not gonna.
As long as there's something he don't like, he's ready to rub his pussies down.
You're taking this.
No, you're the same nigga that ignored a beef because the nigga had an accent.
Yeah, because it didn't sound good.
You ignored the whole... You ain't gotta start to yell and we just talking. No, an accent. Yeah, because it didn't sound good. You ignored a whole, I already heard that.
You ain't gotta start yelling, we just talking.
No, we yelling.
No, you yelling.
No, you yelling.
I'm not gonna lie to you.
You yelling, man.
You yelling.
You ignoring the whole beef because the nigga had an accent.
Because the shit didn't sound good.
It still gotta sound good though.
Check that with that sky.
You can't name one other Central Sea record.
Now you talking about all this is toxic.
I cut Central Sea off this record.
Get the fuck outta here with this.
He's not on this record. You taking this. taking this and shout the central see that's my man
See that's your man. He's all this way shout the central see we saw the stars. Yeah, that's my man
So I don't got no smoke with him you but as an American that record is cool, but as an American
Taking this FBA shit a little bit too far.
Now everything that's not American you will get,
you taking this home with Italian shoes on right now.
You went to South Carolina,
you just by the grave sites and you caught a...
Y'all was rubbing y'all pussies together so much.
Parks changed his mind.
The musician in the room was like,
I mean, when I heard it last night, I hated it.
But this morning...
This shit sound like it's from the speakers. He said last night, I hated it. But this morning, this shit sounded good. This shit sounded good.
It sounded good on the speakers.
You said the same shit.
There's something about this morning,
the speakers about to change.
Play it right now.
Play it right now.
Play it right now.
That shit was on the good speakers all the time.
It sounded great.
You a hater.
And I don't even like Drake.
Whatever, whatever.
Listen, if Drake got two good songs,
I don't give a fuck what Joe's talking about.
I'm not here to step on nothing.
Yes you are. Yes you are. I'm not. He's Joe's talking about. I'm not here to step on nothing.
Yes you are.
Yes you are.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not gonna step on shit.
Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers?
Oh, I was in Turks.
You niggas made me more mad than the mosquitoes,
God damn it.
I was getting told, but I couldn't focus.
You didn't put that shit on the yacht?
You didn't put it on the yacht?
No, no, no.
I did not put D momentum on on the fucking yeah
Holy fuck. Why was you in church listening to the podcast?
That's what he does. Why do you take a look?
I'm not surprised. I'm just saying like why you make a whole vacation. This shit came out of nowhere nigga. He got to
got a mic
The nigga did a prize pick and
For another y'all for me
Come negotiation time the last thing I want to ever discuss is vacay days
You're right, right. I don't care.
I worked through the whole shit.
You right.
You right.
You crazy?
They say the right shit.
I'll be everywhere.
Hey!
Going into surgery.
It's time for my favorite party show.
Hey, y'all knew what prize picks they had was going for anyway.
I was lying.
I like that.
Oh for sure.
Holy shit.
No, I enjoyed y'all.
I enjoyed y'all.
We had fun though.
We had a great time.
Efficient.
Very efficient. Very efficient. Very efficient. We had fun though. We had a great time.
Efficient, very efficient.
Very efficient.
Very efficient.
Got a three hour show in, made it home.
Mark, man.
Gotta let him lead more.
I wouldn't lead, Flip was A-miking.
Flip was A-miking.
No, but you were the management.
Oh yeah, behind the scenes,
I was just keeping everybody on time.
Ah!
Ah!
I was like, niggas, no breaks, no lunch.
Not sure y'all got outta here, boy.
You had the hot chocolate first?
Monday.
The hot chocolate threw you off?
That shit did fuck me.
Monday I woke up, you know what I mean, waiting for 8am.
Ancy.
Ancy waiting for the Patreon.
I had to open it up.
Two hours.
Like on the nose.
Shit, it's a 201.
A word.
Funny how that happened.
Damn.
I didn't even know that.
It worked out that way.
Serendipity.
It worked out.
Yeah. We went back to the house. I didn't say 201. Or work. Funny how that happened. Oh my God. Damn, I didn't even know that.
It worked out that way.
Damn.
Serendipity.
It worked out.
Yeah.
We went 15 minutes over.
He's moving the flow, man.
He's moving the rhythm.
Holy shit.
We went 15 minutes over.
Whoops.
Damn, I swear.
Oops.
Oh my God, yo.
No.
Time flies when you have to move the flow.
That's it.
That's all that goes down.
You guys are great, man.
We had a good time today.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
Tell me to the rhythm of the night.
It's like a song. It's like a song. It's like a song. It's like a song. It up all this shit. That's it. That's all that goes down. You guys are great, man.
We had a good time today.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
Timmy did a rhythm of the night.
I think you said you had the air radio.
What's that?
The air special edge was crazy.
Somebody said that?
That was crazy.
Listen, I am on complete bird bullshit today.
Yes, sir. As you should be after vacation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's only right. He's got all. I am on complete bird bullshit today.
Yes, sir. As you should be after vacation.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's only right.
I wanna tell y'all all about my vacation.
I wanna hear all about you guys' lives in my absence,
but I am on bird shit.
Sorry.
If you are playing this volume,
this podcast at maximum volume
Turn down and adjust to the kaka. Oh
God yes. Yes
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Barks on the combination
Absolutely chefs kids to the intro. I was hype. I was hype in Turks. I'm right drag. Oh, huh? Stop fucking play with me, man
Hey!
Happy to be back, shout out to everybody on vacation right now!
Always for the ladies, always for the ladies!
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for a good time
Oh God
Oh God
I'm not trying to be nosy. Let me know where you going tonight. Yeah, you trying to have fun
Make sure we link by the end of the night. And I said he will don't be out with your friends
You know it ain't right
I got bitches that love how I talk on the mic, baby all of my comments and all
Okay at the end of the day dog gonna strip love I ain't gonna lie
This is the one that does it definition the baddie
You really my time now you can't call me a man now you can't run working with your friends
Now you can't jump grabbing on my party
Now you can't run calling me a man now you can't run working with my check my check my check
You miss the strip club so much
I bring the New York I was honest in Turks.
I bring the New York playlist to Turks.
Yet the Drake record didn't work for you out there.
No.
The Drake record is a fake that record.
Yeah?
I promise I'm just getting started.
Happy to be back.
Wake it the fuck up out there.
Me and her, drunk like bag in that mall.
Shorty said diddy, she looking so pretty.
She give me that wig and back to the road.
Ay, ay.
Yes sir!
Bobby what up? Ross what up?
Northside niggas know that I'm T.
Niggas talk that shit when I leave. I can't got 10 with a drum. If nigga want smoke I turn I be. BWAH SWEAR! Soon as the summer come I'ma get high, high I'm at the top, I am not one of them, I got a Glock
Came with a drum and I'm switched with a box
Niggas came around feelin' me, nigga
Fuckin' me nigga
Alright, we get us your starter, man
Alright
Come on, man
Come on, man, greatest show on turf is about to start
Go get your vice, go get your smoke, get whatever you want right now
Draw Go get your vice, go get your smoke, get whatever you want right now. Drops!
Yeah, this ain't for the PhD niggas, my nigga.
This ain't for the niggas with doctorates, boy. Nah.
It's about time for y'all to walk out. Pay your bill, pay your check.
Tip one out.
Y'all head on out of here man.
Yes you do.
Other niggas is coming in right now.
Hey, Connie what's good?
I promise I'm starin' but I'm getting to this Remy verse.
I gotta hear it, sorry.
Gotta hear, gotta hear, gotta hear it. Sorry. Got it here. Got it here. Got it here The baddies, but I'm sorry little baby. I live in a girl. My bitches is ghetto
Tell them passing
Drug dealers and game members with
Killing shit Oh I Mike Mike Mike Mike Mike Mike Mike Mike Mike Mike check one two one two one two one two
Last looks everybody get it together in here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. Get the energy right
Get these drops out the way It's Mark. It's Mark. It's Mark. It's Mark. It's Mark.
It's Mark.
It's Mark.
It's Mark.
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It's Mark.
It's Mark.
It's Mark.
It's Mark. It's Mark. It's Mark. It's Mark. It's Mark. Happy birthday to Flip! Make some noise! Make some noise!
40 now, right?
No.
Don't say it like that.
How old you turning, Flip?
38.
Oh.
How does it feel?
Feels good, man.
Getting older.
Is this what 38, you thought it was going to feel?
No.
What did you think?
That's what it would be somewhere in Dubai in the sand.
Now I'm saying, no.
38 feeling good, yeah, yeah.
That's what's up.
I'm gonna write your trajectory.
You at work, so I mean, is it gonna be like a Friday turn up?
Yeah.
What are you doing for your birthday?
Yeah, where's the party at?
I'm not doing anything for my birthday, but this weekend I'm going camping.
Oh, that's this weekend?
Oh, yeah, that's this weekend.
Yeah, yeah, but we was asking about your birthday and how you plan on celebrating you. I asked you. We know that camping is this weekend. Oh yeah, that's this weekend. Yeah, but we was asking about your birthday and how you plan on celebrating you.
I asked you.
We know that camping is this weekend.
I don't expect you to be at work on Friday.
I know what time it is.
The game's a game, come on.
I play, I play with my boy.
I play with my boy.
But how are you going about celebrating you?
Family.
Like you said, you on a good trajectory, man.
I know we'd be so busy in the thick of things
that we don't ever stop and take a look
at where we are in the rat race.
Yeah.
But you got to feel good.
I mean, I do feel good.
Clean yourself up.
You got to use a rack.
I don't know what that means.
I'm saying, use a, it's like a rescue dog.
You have to clean you up, shampoo you, gave you that good condition after the coat,
and clipped him up a little bit.
Now look at him.
Look at him, look at him.
Stop playing with him now.
Thank you.
Niggas at every parade they throw at you.
Yo, they're seeing you.
I get tired watching them, man.
But it's gotta feel good.
You can't have your Your kids birthdays all year long
the pictures the family shared you can make some noise for yourself every now
and I deserve it you deserve it. I appreciate that that's dope. I think
that coming from you that sounds good coming from all you guys I mean you know
like I said I'm gonna proper right trajectory and sometimes you need to
take time for yourself and the family is there and you know put the phone down
just relax and just appreciate life.
These are the moments you gotta appreciate life.
You know what I mean?
Oh God, I agree.
What episode is this?
847.
Welcome to episode 847 of the Joe Button podcast
brought to you by Fueled By Powered By Price,
Pitch Price, Pitch Gang.
Yeah.
I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, happy to be here.
God is good all the time and all the time.
Amen. Host Joe Button here with a few really amazing people to my right. You already all the time and all the time amen host
Joe Budden here with a few really amazing people to my right you already
know the vibe big Queen slip Queens get the money flip is in the building to
his right our good brother dark Lamont mark Lamont Park Lamont Hill in the
building make some noise for that next to him we got the freesiest of them all
big freeze ice mr. take it further himself next to him, Big L Myrus finding his sparks is here,
Corey is here,
you got some stupid shit under the door too,
you done met some bitches that smoke weed.
I was wondering what that was.
That's what I thought.
That's what I thought.
Stupid shit under the door,
this nigga Corey, fuck with you.
Anyway, we got Corey here,
Poe is here.
He's talking to me, saying that.
Man, this nigga's crazy.
Fuck it,
Erickson is here,
I think Ian and Keith was stealing it, Corey be on, bullshit. I'm like, why they put this? This nigga's crazy. I said it Eric sent this here. I think Ian and Keith are stealing it.
Cory will be on bullshit.
I'm like, why they put this?
I said it's the summer.
Why they put this?
That's usually some shit for the winter.
And it's expensive.
Cory, stop.
Move that shit.
I ain't mad.
At least he ain't just roll a towel down there.
It's a level of class.
You trip over that shit in the front.
Oh no, I've tripped over it. That's a level of class. You trip over that shit in the front. Oh, no.
I've tripped over it.
Yeah.
That device don't say class and is racist,
because who else you trying to not smell?
That's fair.
There's some people you might not want to smell.
Hey.
Hey.
Sorry.
Hey, I don't want to make it heavy.
I don't want to make it heavy.
Some shit is like by mistake races, or maybe not.
Glad to be here with you guys.
What's going on?
What did I miss?
What did I miss?
What did we miss then?
Yeah, you know what we missed.
Let's go.
What did y'all miss?
Yeah, tell us about you.
I was true.
Well, I went away. You did? I went away.
You did.
I went away.
Full family.
Went to Turks for a family vacation.
Beautiful.
Me, my baby, her kids, my kids, and my only sister.
That's fine.
Wow.
I love the photos.
There were vacations throwing me off when you say all those people a lot of kids
Now I agreed to this trip I guess kinda with co-parent privilege right like I co-parent from my crib
like over the phone
FaceTime some text
Couple days a week some text. Hey yo nigga, what I said. Yo, yeah. Right. Go see your Rooster in DMs. Right.
Hey, couple days a week.
You know what I mean?
These motherfuckers.
So let me start with a family vacation
and a vacation are not the same at all.
Not at all.
Two totally different things.
So now this is the second time
that I took my ass out in the country on a private jet and came back and needed a vacation
I need a vacation. I bet yeah, I start I start with that
Yeah, but for a family vacation
We had a blast
We had a good time come to find out all of these little motherfuckers have their own minds
agendas, personalities, and feelings and don't really care.
They all broke.
And they don't really care about what's right, wrong, logical, not.
They don't really care about nothing outside of their-
Of them.
Yes. Yes.
Yeah.
So, long story, long is out.
So I got to jet.
Classy. Repeat that.
Because I'm an introvert and...
That's a reason.
Let's create core memories.
A rich introvert.
Let's create core memories.
My dad couldn't do it.
Sure.
Let me do it.
Okay.
The whole house wake up late.
These niggas spend the night.
They spend the night in my crib.
So now the whole house wake up late,
but it's cool because I'm surprising them with the jet.
They don't know.
But I also did buy regular airport tickets
that we just now got credit on.
Okay.
That's some real rich shit.
Yeah, it's a different type of rich right there.
Fake airline tickets you really pay for?
What?
I got the airline tickets at a good reasonable price,
but as more kids kept getting added to the trip,
I was like, you know what, let's just do it.
See, that's when I would've been sitting there
using the fake whatever reason I can
to get the insurance to get the money back.
Exactly, yeah, exactly.
These little kids woke up grumpy as hell, late.
It's too early for all that.
Skipped the airport,
walked right through the little Tita Burrow joint
onto a plane and two of them had an attitude about it.
Nigga, when I tell you my little sister and my baby's youngest daughter was
sitting there petrified saying, Oh my God, give me off of this contraption.
My little sister knows some stats.
Don't you know that private jets are way more, way more dangerous than a regular
airplane? I don't know how we're getting back, but I'll swim back.
I'll walk back. Whatever I do back. I've never this thing again. There's little tiny plane. Oh my god
I could see how they would be
thrown off
cool, but that
Should be that made me right into
See my entire story is just full of dynamics. Got it. Got it
This dynamic is when two ten-year-old girls get together and and meet for the first time and like each other
Now I'm dealing with a 10 year old and an 11 year old
Click and my little sister keep doing some shit like this cock that tea
Cock that tea
I'm like, yo, who the fuck are you? Yo, I come up here and joke that we old,
but you're not really gonna feel old
until you get around 10-year-old, 12, 14.
I know.
Clock some T again
and see what I do to your little fucking fingers.
Watch what happened.
Cool.
We get there.
It's beautiful. It's a beautiful place. Look like it? Yeah, get there. It's beautiful.
It's a beautiful place.
Looked like it.
Yeah, it looked great.
That's my spot, man.
They hold me down over there.
So we get there.
We have a great time, day one.
Then we get to family dinner time.
Y'all just at the villa the whole time, chefs and all that?
The whole time.
Well, some of us.
I was waiting for this one. I'm at the villa the whole time. The whole time. Yeah. Well, some of us. I was waiting for this one. I'm at the villa the whole time.
These kids wanted to do stuff.
Of course.
Don't you know after the first day, after day one of a little pool and just looking
around and chit-chatting.
This is what we're doing.
So where we going?
Where's that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wait, what?
Oh, you kids don't know what vacation means?
No, they do.
No, they do.
They do.
You don't know what vacation means.
So day one, everybody's together as a family.
My son Trey don't get in the pool at all.
He just on his phone looking for action.
Now I'm introduced to the 24 year old side of this trip.
Oh yeah.
24, you never been nowhere, brand new passport.
You got the Clips album banging through the JBL.
Speak over there.
Sounds swaggy.
Villa all the way over there.
I check on the TikTok.
He dancing.
I ain't even know.
I saw a video he put on.
He doing all the, hey.
I said, yo, you thirsty as hell.
Let's get some traction, nigga.
Yo.
Yo, come.
Yo, yo, yo.
I ain't done nothing.
I ain't done nothing, man.
I'm so close.
Nah, my nigga.
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Yeah.
Now he has Tourette's.
And I'm used to it.
Oh, like for real?
Oh yes.
I thought you was making a joke.
I'm not making a joke.
I was like, are you sure he had Tourette's?
You know them football players.
Yo, stop.
But he has Touret? You know them football players. Yeah. But he has to rest.
Okay.
And he gets like a tick attack when he's excited or nervous or you know, something like that.
Again, I'm used to this, but because we in Turks, I guess he was really excited. No, when I tell you. That's my man.
That's my man.
That's my man.
That's my man.
I'm going to say bread.
I'm sorry, I can't do this.
I can't do this.
He came down.
Listen, when I tell y'all,
and that's the thing,
he grew since last time I seen him.
So he got a couple more inches on him.
When I tell y'all, this nigga cursed that whole
deputy the whole night, like aggressive.
Like a football player.
Yo, your mother shit had never had you.
Fuck you, you a bitch, I'll shoot you right down.
Yo, and your mother didn't want you.
And black people are armed.
Like what's going on?
Yo, I looked to the side and I said,
yo, yo, wait.
Yo, stop playing, bro.
Wait, so I look up, I've heard this before,
but I look up and I see Lex and Trey and Jimmy.
They're like.
So I do the shit, right? I'm like, hey, don't mind. He's like, don't mind. Jimmy
Don't mind Don't mind like yes, but he is going
Somebody go after restraint this little it's gonna take a couple of us.
Yo, he's bugging.
He cursed that table out the entire dinner.
And as she get up, she put ice down his back.
She trying to stop him.
He's still going.
And your mother's a bitch.
And you, I don't know who the fuck you think you are.
Wait.
I would have been dying like this. Are you crazy?
Wait, what?
This shit fucking my brain.
Poor Lex.
I feel bad for him.
Yeah, my poor baby.
So I learned to ask another dynamic, right?
Kids is a little more like, ah.
My kids is kind of just like, OK.
All right, that's what you want.
That's peace.
My kids is just observing, like, oh, all right.
Bet we'll take account.
We'll take that into account moving forward.
Note it.
You're right.
OK.
Oh, shit.
Oh.
That's the first night.
Oh, my god.
Boy, that Thursday night.
Friday night, Trey is up early with his club clothes on.
Oh.
And in all of this, all Lex wants to do is work.
He works, that's the problem with him.
Anybody that is working, he is helping them.
These people, the staff that catered to you,
they're all ready, he wanna help them.
That's dope.
And when you, it's not.
It's not.
Because then when you tell him no,
the budding con gene kicks in.
And anywhere he's seen these workers,
dad, I need to go to the bathroom to brush my teeth.
And I'm like, no, you gotta wait till they're done.
He's like, ugh.
So the whole trip, he's just working.
He's working.
He's cleaning bathrooms.
He's got these cook niggas playing catch.
I can see how that thing's complicated.
He dropped the lemonade all over somebody.
He's like, ah.
He's fucking shit.
So he's not the greatest worker yet.
He's still working.
I'm looking at him, I'm thinking yo,
the tip is gonna have to be a lot for this type of turn.
He throwing, glass breaking, ta!
All right, so he's working.
I'm just explaining to y'all dynamics, I promise.
Another dynamic.
Oh, Jesus.
So Saturday, I mean Friday now,
Trey's hitting that TikTok.
Found the little Shisha Club.
Ah, that's you, Shisha.
There you go.
Let's go, Trey.
You found the Shisha Club.
Yeah.
The car service is $150 an hour,
and it's about 40 minutes away.
We are, as it turns out.
It's cool, my pops got it.
We're on the peaceful side of Turks.
Oh, the fun side.
He got to go over there.
To the fun side.
And you don't want him to be alone,
so the car's got to stay there for the entirety of his.
So he goes.
He go dolo?
Dolo by itself.
OK.
Friday night, peace the scene.
He comes right back.
He's out for two hours.
And that's fine.
Friday. Came back on Saturday. I hear it. He's out for two hours and that's fine Friday
Came back Saturday
Because God is good all the time
man his Central air stops working in this villa. I
Gotta be outside now. So now that's a choice now. They have no choice. They can't fix it till tomorrow.
They move him to Villa 14 by himself.
Definitely got to go outside.
Now I'm out.
That nigga hit the TikTok.
So he's like, tonight I'm taking Naim.
That's my man, Mr. Toretto.
We taking him.
We outside to the Sheesha spot.
And we.
Hold on, that could go.
That could go one of two ways.
Yeah.
What?
Hey, shut the fuck up back there.
Okay, go ahead, go ahead.
Let me see where we go with this.
So they hop back in the $150 power car,
and they take their ass out there,
and they meeting girls.
Of course.
Yeah.
They got a, yada, yada.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Apparently some girls from Jersey city happened to be in terms of as fate
would have as fate would have it.
He brings them back to his own Villa away from dad, him and my man.
I, Of course. And his words, not mine,
and he has a therapy session. I'm like boy, that's your words. That's your words. That's you. He
said the girls wasn't into that. They kept trying to make me do stuff. And I said, well, stuff like what, son? He said, they made me, they asked me
to put on some gray sweats and dwork.
Oh, holy shit.
So now my girl start busting out laughing.
What the fuck, what'd you say?
I thought that he said something different.
But she asked him again, wait, you said dwork?
Oh, dwork.
That's not a dick twerk, is it? That is what a dick twerk is.
I'm so glad I'm old, man.
Can you imagine this shit?
Apparently, all the kids have heard that phrase before.
Not me.
My first time right now.
We old.
Dwork, they want my oldest son to put great sweats on
and Dwork shake his dick.
All right.
All right, so cool. now I'm just clowning I'm clowning him of course but uh but wait wait wait did he put sweats on?
No my baby he didn't work he didn't work he didn't work and that was Saturday they went out so my baby had all this Candlelight rose-filled dinner some romantic shit lined up
However trip takes a drastic turn I
Want to say this is Saturday?
Night train and went out but Saturday night. My baby has family friends staying with them in
Houston okay for the summer and the family
friend has children and one of the children unexpectedly passed away.
Oh wow. Oh fuck. 14 years old, cardiac arrest so they think. Wow. Rest in
peace to Preston but I tell you that at five o'clock, her oldest daughter came screaming out of the
villa to where as the entire villa, anybody that was in it, you could hear.
Yeah, yeah.
Imagine.
Now that needed to be.
Of course.
Now y'all got to console.
That's the trip.
Now you got to not tell your youngest,
you're trying to protect them.
Like, a lot happening Saturday night.
Wow.
Saturday night.
Shit.
I'm so sorry, man.
So that was the trip.
Yeah, I was super sorry too.
I can't imagine.
I cannot imagine.
Again, I wanna just thank my higher power
for getting my family there and back safe.
Death is one thing when you you looking at it on the news
and when you seeing it on your phone,
but when it get that close to your doorstep
at such a young age, that was a lot.
So I'm watching her being mommy mode.
Actually, I, God damn.
God damn, bro.
I wanna fucking, I gotta shout out you moms out there,
I ain't gonna hold you.
Another one, another one.
You moms that do this 24 seven with these kids,
that's just there to deal with it all,
from death to feeding them,
to boyfriend's relationships,
to doing their hair every time these girls get out the pool,
you doing their hair.
It's like this was a trip where all focus was just on kids.
It's dads that do that.
Not trying to be funny, but everything you name,
I have to do.
You saying?
It ain't just moms that.
We lucky to have partners, but like,
this shit is still, there's a lot of shit.
Yeah, but this is about the moms.
No, I'm just saying.
I hear you.
I hear you.
Go ahead.
But I'm not mad, I mean, I'm joking.
I know, I know.
Any parent that is on 24 hour maintenance
and raising a kid,
God damn, how do you do it with these little demons?
I'd be so happy, that's what I's why me and Ice come to work so much.
These fucking...
You wonder why this shit look like this?
Right.
It ain't look like this the whole time?
My shit is all white.
Oh dog, I could not wait for these kids
to get back to their rightful owners.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Then me and the 10 year old, me and our youngest,
it's kind of, we got a little power struggle going on too,
because I'm folding moms up.
Now we get that dynamic, like yo,
you sit down and shut up, all right?
I'm folding her, no matter what you got to say.
I'm gonna knock on this door.
These motherfuckers, and they still will knock.
Slide the door, yeah!
Oh. Yo, they coming right in. Kids don't have no respect for nothing. Knock on this these motherfuckers and they still will not slide it over. Yeah
Yo, they coming right in kids don't have no
Nigga, I really believe that kids they got some kind of tick inside of them. They know they know why so they know no
Not that kids know when you know the name on. They know. They know. They come right barge in. It's in the air, it's a sentence.
Oh my Lord, Jesus.
But anyway, so nobody went out Sunday,
everything was smooth, they went horseback riding
and some shit.
We played Uno, fucking, Uno was great.
That little shuffle the card, card?
Swap hands?
Swap hands.
No, swap hands is cool.
The card that say, hey, anybody put they shit
in the shuffle them up and redo it.
What?
Shuffle cards.
That's new shit.
That's some new ones.
So the game is going for mad long three and four hours
like fucking Monopoly.
It's the Richardsons against the buttons.
I rig it so my son can win.
Naturally.
Now they mad.
Yo, it was a good time, but I need a big kiss. Nah, you need a big kiss. Uncle when naturally now
it was a good time, but I need a big now you need to be. Yeah, I can see yes, I need to be a lot. You took a trip. You ain't take a vacation. Yeah,
yeah, I need a vacation every time me and shaw. They do the spa. She get the
masseuse I want and I haven't figured out a way to effectively say move it.
Is it just one of those things where you like want what it didn't come to you.
Have you had, how do you know that that's the head of the
system before because we go to the massage thing. She booked the couple shit
we go is two girls because we waited for there to be two girls. Sure. Okay, so
I'm sitting there salivating over one and she, I think she's making some
noise, I think she eye fucking me too. And then they say, all right, put this blindfold
on. And then you put the blindfold on or you go in the other room and you come back and
it's a whole different motherfucker. But the massage was good.
You should have kept the blindfold on. You could have just lived in the fantasy.
Right, you could have just, oh man, you can't play no more in the masseuse.
You got to just do as you're told in the masseuse.
But good time.
Shout out to Turks.
Drake tried to get out on Sunday too.
Talking about some Noah's Ark.
Oh, this is Drake's favorite bar.
Nigga, sit down.
Lock yourself in the room, nigga.
You're not going nowhere now.
But anyway.
Oh man, that sounds like a good trip.
It was an adventure.
That sounds like a lot.
Yeah, it sounds like a lot. It was an adventure. Glad you. But anyway. Oh man. That sounds like you're a good trip.
It was an adventure.
That sounds like a lot.
Yeah, it sounds like a lot.
It was an adventure.
Glad you did it.
Oh yeah, I'm glad.
I'm glad everybody enjoyed it.
Oh, and my favorite part about all of it is
all of these motherfuckers are still here.
Everybody.
Yeah, we saw them as well.
Lex, fucking up kids.
Everybody's still here.
I saw your face when a couple of them
came out on the balcony.
You had that look like. I ain't used to see my kid on a Tuesday.
Why you here?
I text him yesterday like, yo, we back on American soil.
She was like, all right, dope.
That's peace.
Then is that dynamic to the fight with the parent when it's summer?
Parents check the weather.
It ain't taking that kid back.
So somebody had me to hit you Friday.
So whatever, man.
Anyway, how about you guys?
Nothing like that.
Nothing like that.
That's hard to top that.
I went to Vermont this weekend.
It's my first time in Vermont.
Got out of here nice and early on Friday.
So got there at a respectable time, like 11.30.
Oh, that's dope.
The last hour was terrifyingly dark.
There's not a single light in the entire highway
of Vermont, I don't think, nor cars.
There was a traffic, you know when the shit goes yellow
on the GPS and it's like there's traffic right here?
Yeah.
It was just a car pulled over.
It was a lot.
But it was fun, man.
We were up there, my man Aaron shot to Aaron, it's his people's cabin,
and he listens to music, like we listen to music,
where he DJ'd or had the aux for the entire 48 hours
I was there and was playing all fires, the white fire though.
But I got 700 new songs on my playlist.
That's always dope.
Yeah, it was cool, nice cabin, we just kind of chilled,
campfire, drank, ate some mushrooms,
laughed our asses off,
till the sun came up for two straight days.
It was good.
Good times.
Shot to Vermont.
Sounds good, sounds good.
Did you get your prize picks in though?
You know I did, buddy.
Shot to prize picks.
Hit a little lick, huh?
Yeah, a couple of little things.
You know he did, yo.
Yeah, a couple of little things.
I try more often. There we go.
Now this weekend I took my mom's out. This was fun. We went to Nelly and Ja
even even Chingy had a show. Sounds fire. That's fine. The job for
just you and my dukes. Yeah, just me and my mom. Nice. Well, Nelly and Ja are two of her all-time favorite rappers. She had no clue.
A little fast, though.
So she already, I was like, yo, I'm taking you somewhere.
When she saw the signs and realized what it was,
she was tripping.
That's fire.
And shout out to Ja.
He hooked everything up for me. We get to our seats, perfect seats.
I have to start with, I have to put respect on Eve.
Eve's got a fire, but I, but no, let me just, when I think Eve music,
I'm always thinking the, the hard wrapping, uh, you know, pit bull in the skirt.
She called herself those records. No, she got Pop Smash.
I totally forgot it.
That crowd, I want to say 60 to 70% of that crowd
was there for Eve.
I can see it.
It fucked me up.
Like, I'm like, yo, they on every word, every song,
like, the people in our section was like,
yo, we only came for Eve, we could go now.
Oh, wow. And she went second. Oh, sure.
Josh said was amazing. We did go in the back. I had a chance to see my mom be a
groupie,
awkward, not but obviously act out like, you know, yeah, fandom. Yeah, and that
shit was that was the highlight of my as you were there. No,
Fandom. Yeah.
And that shit was, that was the highlight of my day.
Because you were there.
No.
No, my mom still don't understand that, like,
who her two sons are and, like, the things we can do for her.
Right.
She don't get it yet.
Right.
So when I get her in these spaces
and I see how she acts around,
she's hugging Jah, hugging his wife,
they taking pictures together,
and she's like, this is the highlight of my night. Oh my god
I'm just like that made me feel good. That's amazing. Hell yeah. It's like yo, I mean it's the streets. Yeah
Some light. For sure. You know what I mean? It's regular shit, man. It's regular shit. Stop playing with him.
But um and and you know, we just sat and enjoyed the rest of the show
Who had the best set? Ja. Yeah. Ja
I'm not I don't want to say nothing bad about Nelly,
but he, that was a bad set.
OK.
It was a bad set.
What made it bad?
Wrong song.
Song selection.
Song order.
What I got from this, I could be wrong.
I didn't speak to anybody.
But remember he got sued by Ali and the St. Louis. Yeah, what it felt because they're all on tour with
him. Well, no Ali, but the rest of the lunatics were on tour with him. This
almost felt like
let me get you. Let me get y'all paid.
Like it was
highlighting them. Got it. He did records, he did his records,
but he kind of spaced out his hits.
Got you.
So not well put together.
Yeah, yeah, not well put together.
Just from what I expected.
Like even, if I'm going to a Nelly show,
and he's the headline, I think he had like an hour
and a half set or something.
I'm thinking if I have to put the list together,
it wouldn't have went anywhere like what I saw
like even the the
his finale record. I don't even know the song. I don't know what song that was
like you played a lot of your smashes way too early in the set
and it's tough. I'm up Ja, Ja is amazing.
I've seen him, I've worked with him on some live stuff.
He's incredible.
From the intro, every single song was a slap.
That would be a headache if I was Nelly.
Hell yeah.
That's a tough following.
And then you're coming out after Ja.
Who looks phenomenal.
And Eve, again.
And Eve too.
Tore this shit down.
And Nelly might be used to them country crowds.
He's been getting his country back.
Well, this crowd look like a lot of that, though.
Yeah, but it's not that if Jah Rul and Eve are on the bill.
And that's what I was, and Ching.
From listening to you, I wasn't there,
and I do want to see this show.
It sounds like Nelly's show was still his,
a variation of what he was doing
in front of his country people.
Like where you put in some of the hip hop smashes.
Hot In Here, where was Hot In Here at?
Hot In Here might've been like fourth or fifth to last.
That tells you where he might've been.
But it wasn't the, to me Hot In Here
is the last record you do.
Among black people for sure.
Or close to, close to.
I'm not mad if you follow up with something.
What would you do last if you Nelly?
Hiding here.
I mean, I'm saying, because I would do hiding here.
Dilemma, yeah.
I want to buy with energy though.
That's too low, that's too, I want to,
if I'm gonna be the one who made it.
Most people close with their biggest record.
I'm not sure what his is.
I would imagine Dilemma's up there.
It was up, like he did do Dilemma.
But between country, grammar.
Even like EI, all of them.
That EI was in the first.
That should be early though.
Yeah, that should be.
I would want to start.
What about Rob Rie?
All early.
Yeah, I would do Rob Rie.
And it might just be tough for Nelly to do a 90-minute set.
Like 90 minutes is a lot of minutes.
Yeah, he still rocked it.
Let me be clear.
I just didn't like it.
That's a lot of Nelly for 90 minutes.
90 minutes is a long time.
Cause the time on your records during the show is not
the time of your record.
And again, it's him and the St. Lunatics.
So he's bringing out the St. Lunatics
and they're doing songs of their own.
And I do like how he mixed that in the set.
He did bring J. Quan out.
That's dope.
Oh, okay. I like that. I love out. That's dope. Oh, okay.
I like that.
I love that.
That place went absolutely crazy.
Nelly should sound like he would lean more
into bringing people out.
And I just, like my mom, she was like,
I ain't really like Nelly, is it me?
And I was like, nah, I didn't either.
Hold on, Nelly is still heat.
But he's not.
Oh yeah.
Be clear, still got heat.
It's just, the show didn't go like we expected it to go.
Especially coming off a job who just every song was,
I thought about you Flip,
cause he played the wonderful record with R. Kelly.
Uh, uh, uh, uh.
Shit did damage in there.
It did?
I bet it did.
I'm sure it did, yeah.
It did, it did.
That song works except for when it came out.
For real, I remember him.
He got a lot of flack for that record when it came out
because of all the 50 shit.
50 shit was gonna do it.
And I was like, yo,
Def Jam was excited about it.
I was like, this record don't sound bad,
but it was just tough during that time.
That shit was great though.
Great show, had a great time.
Shot the jobs, shot the time. Shot the moms too.
Every song I played, every dance I did, anytime I was on the vacation, like just being me in my own
zone, one of them fucking rude ass kids would say, oh I keep forgetting, he from y'all from the 19s.
He from y'all from the 19s.
Oh shit. He made the different centuries.
Damn.
And they're shaming it.
Like we ain't even had color back then.
I'm so slow.
I didn't even pick up on what they was saying.
When it hit me, y'all are from the 19s?
I'm going to smack the shit out of you kids.
This niggas is born in 03, 06.
God damn, with voices.
Right, and opinions.
Thoughts, right.
Opinions on shit.
This is a whole new world we're in that we gotta share with these little motherfuckers.
Anyway.
From the 19s.
That's crazy.
You from the 19s.
That's crazy. That is crazy. How would you be getting that? Then they were like, the 19s. That's crazy. You from the 19s. That's crazy.
That is crazy.
How was your week in the 19s?
Then they was like, which 19s?
The 80s.
Oh, way, oh, you're way back in the 19s.
They treat that shit like it's the 50s.
The way I be looking at, when Mark Perrins was born,
that's how they look at us.
That is disrespectful to hip hop.
That's how they look at us. You was talking to hip hop. That's how they look at us.
You was talking about shows,
I do want to shout out Tyler the Creator while I was going.
He was like, yo, come out to Jersey.
I was going, but I watched it out and out.
Me and Park tried to make that happen.
We're not Joe Budden, so it didn't work out.
Nope.
Why didn't it hit me?
Well, we hit Ian.
Shouldn't have hit Ian.
We shouldn't have hit Ian.
I know, I read the New York Times piece
that did put me in equal, Ian, like, call me.
Call me.
We don't like to bother you.
It's like you're on vacation, dawg.
Oh, please, you fucking call me for the Josh's, shut up.
What was before here?
I was here?
Yeah.
I want to go to Ja.
Me too.
Hell of a fantasy football player Ja is too.
That shit was wild.
Shout out to Fantasy Football.
Coming up.
Counting down.
Counting down.
Mark, do you do Fantasy Football?
Nah, I don't watch football.
You don't watch football?
You don't watch football?
You don't watch football?
You and...
He watches PBS and all that shit to get his name in there.
PBS, CNN. Actually, there is a talk to be had about He watches PBS and all that shit to get his name in there.
PBS, CNN.
Actually, there is a talk to be had about, there is a talk to be had, Mark, I'm sure
you have some input about the dude, the homeboy that was walking around Park Ave yesterday
with the assault rifle.
Yeah.
Shit.
You know, I was like a block from him.
Oh, really?
It was me and Ian. Yeah shit, you know, I was like a block from him. Oh really it was what me. Well, so what what happened was we were
so those people that don't know there was a
Shooter we can cover later. You need to talk about now. Fuck it. We're here. I think it's really important
But in New York City, there was a there was a sadly a mass shooting a guy
mentally ill was
Was he into a building,
I think it was 345 Park Avenue.
And opened-
Blackstone building.
Blackstone building.
Apparently, according to what I've heard most recently,
he thought he was going to the NFL building.
Which is there.
Which is there.
He got up on the wrong floor.
I should say he went to the NFL office.
He was in the right building, wrong floor.
But he ended up opening fire,
killed a New York City police officer,
Bangladeshi dude,
family, the whole thing, and injured other people before taking himself out by gun.
It was absolutely tragic.
Ian and I were in New York shooting the Mark and Ian show, and we shot at 10-
The Ian and Mark show.
Tomato tomato.
And we were at the Patreon offices.
I'll tell you about that later.
He took you to Patreon?
We did have some talks.
Don't worry about it.
And we had a five hour break because Ian
doesn't have a scheduled meeting.
So my son was with me.
And he's a crazy person, so I couldn't take him
to the meeting.
Sure.
And so my daughter actually came up from Philly
and watched him in my office and
when I went back to meet up with them she said let's go to Park Avenue for
lunch. There's like a little market right up there.
Yeah.
And we were going up there and we literally would have been right where
the active shooter was and the only reason we weren't was because I was
walking up Madison Avenue with my crazy-ass son and as I was trying to
pull him out of a store a bird shit on me.
Good luck.
Yeah.
That's what that... It never feels like it. Whoever said... I think a store, a bird shit on me. Good luck. Yeah.
It never feels like it.
Whoever said, I think some dickhead got bird shit on him,
so he just wanted to console him,
and that just became like an old-wise thing.
A bird's blind because on vacation,
while I was sitting down, a bird,
if I'm sitting right here, a bird ramped,
dead smack into the glass
maybe right here from where my head is
and ended his whole existence.
Yeah, it rains everywhere.
I'm like bird shit out here, remember?
Yeah, right here on the balcony.
Yeah, birds will do that sometimes.
They do it because they can see good,
they can't see the glass.
They don't see glass.
They see colors.
I tell you that thought I got shot, anyway.
Sometimes you get it.
So anyways, the bird shot shit it on my elbow
and I hate everything Germany, so I I got shot. Anyway. Sometimes I get it. So anyways, so the bird shot on my, shitted on my elbow and I hate everything Jeremy.
So I like ran into a store or a restaurant and was like,
yo, can you, can I please use your bathroom?
And she was kind of like, no.
I was like, what bird shit?
I'm like, oh yeah, go ahead, use it.
And after I did that, I was like, it's 95 degrees.
I don't feel like walking on 45th and Park.
Let me just see what the menu is.
I looked at the menu and the menu was fine.
So we ended up staying at 37th and Madison.
So it was good luck.
And eating lunch.
Yeah. That's my point. And eating lunch there. Yeah.
That's my point, and had that bird not shit on me,
we would have been right there,
and God knows what would have happened.
So it was like just the stroke of luck that we missed it.
So I feel, today I'm feeling very, very fortunate
to be alive.
Not to say I would have got hit anyway,
but you just never know, but you know what I'm saying?
I wouldn't be in that close.
I wouldn't be nowhere near it.
Yeah.
Because it's terrifying.
Yes, it is.
My heart goes out to everybody who was there
and had to witness that.
My heart goes out to that police was there and had to witness that. My heart goes out to that police officer
that lost his life.
Absolutely.
That's awful.
He was literally trying to say,
you know when you're trying to save people,
whatever I think about police officers as a job,
there's human beings.
And when you're making your job
to keep people out of harm's way
and you get killed, especially by someone,
you know, something that is so senseless,
it's heartbreaking.
My heart goes out to his family and everybody.
Yeah, no, it was horrible all around, all around.
There's many conversations to be had.
There's the mental health aspect of this.
They're saying that he left a note.
Saying that, hey, the NFL and Roger Goodell and CTE are responsible for this act.
Yeah he was 27? He was young?
27, yeah. Drove from Vegas.
Drove cross country. Vegas to New York.
Had a Vegas permit for his weapon, had a bulletproof vest on and ultimately took himself out.
I always hate those stories too. and ultimately took himself out.
I always hate those stories too,
when you're taking people away from their families
and then you take yourself out.
I said that last night.
I never liked that.
It feels cowardly to me,
and I know it's a mental health issue,
I shouldn't think about it that way,
but just the human part of me is like.
That's where you're conflicted.
That's where it gets tough.
Yeah, it's like fuck that guy.
Cause you want to believe that, I mean,
if you believe in the mental health crisis,
I don't know how you hear the story
and not acknowledge that that is a real mental health problem
to drive cross country and commit this type of act.
Yeah, it's doing on it for however many days probably.
Right, just straight. It says like
30 some 37 hours or something. Yeah. You know you didn't do that. I need to write a note.
I need to write a note. And then there's this new thing, not new thing, let me not say that, but
since Luigi there seem to be more cases of people attempting to do some just horrific act in the name of justice.
Yes, in some sort.
Right.
So, how do you deal with that?
That's not just you want to let the mental health people know that there are people that
are aware of this whole CTE thing and are handling it the way it should be.
Listen, Calvin Johnson, one of the greatest all time,
retired early.
Will Smith did the movie about it.
There is some awareness on it,
but there's way too much money made in football
for them to ever really give a fuck about this.
In the movie, in the Will Smith movie,
was it Concussion?
I think it was.
Concussion.
At the end, they said, like the way the movie ends,
it comes up that the NFL agreed on something
and they would, part of the settlement
was that they never have to officially acknowledge CTE.
Right.
Like they're able to keep their hands clean.
Yep.
Yeah, we acknowledge this, but officially
we can still distance ourselves from it. Exactly.
It's too much money being made.
I think in a note, they said, he requested for his brain to be tested.
Yes, he said, CTE study my brain, please. I'm sorry. That was his quote.
My only thing with that is I believe them. I believe you.
I believe that you believe that this is a mental health CTE thing going on.
I got it.
Stop playing.
Right, well that's gonna be my point is that
while it's fair and reasonable to criticize the NFL
for how they handle it,
because they've handled it horribly historically
and don't treat players right in general,
guaranteed contracts, all that,
there is also the side of the players
that still want to play
despite having multiple concussions.
I see it with Tua.
You know what I mean?
And I can't blame him if you're going to, in his case, be looking at a quarter of a
billion dollars in salary alone.
See, that's the thing I argue about with Ish when we talk about the billionaire thing is
like, well, yeah, there will be people in other countries that will do bad jobs because
they have no other choice.
Right?
Your kid will do child labor.
Because the NFL doesn't have the guaranteed contract,
you're put in a situation where you have to choose
between making this money or getting your brains fried.
Like, they shouldn't be allowed to make that choice.
You know what I mean?
And the way to do that, not to infantilize them,
but just to say, hey, let's give people guaranteed contract.
Let's give people healthcare.
Let's give people things they need.
It's a fucked up system.
On a different note,
or maybe a slightly brighter note,
this weekend I did make it to Cleveland,
which normally isn't fun, but I had a,
no disrespect to Cleveland, I just normally am in and out.
But I got to spend 24 hours there almost,
and it was the 10th commemoration
of the movement for Black Lives.
Which sounds crazy to me that people started running around
saying Black Lives Matter 10 years ago.
Like the time is moving.
Mike Brown was killed in August 9, 2014.
So that's 11 years ago.
Y'all remember?
So, but it was good to be somewhere
with a bunch of organizers and activists
where nobody died, where we were there to commemorate
the work and to celebrate.
And the movement for Black Lives isn't the
Black Lives Matter organization.
It's all the grassroots movements around the country that have been fighting.
So the ones local, the ones national, it was hundreds of activists.
It was kind of like a family reunion, seeing people who you usually only see on the protest
line.
And it was like a fancy affair, people had their best clothes on, people were performers.
It was so dope.
It was a good time.
I was supposed to go see the Cash Money,
the 30th anniversary tour going on, they were in Cleveland that night,
like a block from where I was.
But I had such a good time with the activists
and the organizers, and we were just vibing,
I didn't even walk over to the show.
I regret not seeing the show,
but it was such a good time,
and just let people know the movement is still alive,
and people are still fighting,
and it's just a lot of good shit happening in the world.
It's not just bad news. People are really making changes out there. So it was just good
to see. I know it's good to just be in Cleveland for a long time and just see, I got to go
out and see people and see the culture a little bit.
Cleveland's dope if you can actually get time moving around out there.
It's great, man. I still wish I could have seen the show. Because I heard some people
that I saw. I bumped into Chris and Neaf in the hall in the lobby.
And I didn't realize they were performing there.
I didn't realize who else was open.
Someone told me GZ was there.
But then I heard he wasn't.
And that's what kind of made me stay where I was, too.
Like, if GZ ain't there, I'm not going.
Got it.
Just because that would have been like the extra piece.
But it was dope, man.
I heard the show was great.
Seen Walker has SeaWorld lit.
What?
He saw that shit.
Yeah.
Oh, G-Wad.
He turned it up.
Yeah.
He got a whole catalog of that.
Yeah.
Like, that's one that you'd walk with.
Walker has workers lit.
Yeah.
SeaWorld and put the whales.
Put someone special in that nigga name.
We got SeaWorld.
We weren't familiar with your game, yo.
We kind of clowned SeaWorld at first.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We did not.
We are a team, Joe Budden.
We are a team, Joe Budden. We are a team, Joe Budden.
I'm only a team when it's convenient for me
as a man.
I didn't clown C-World.
I knew them niggas had a bag.
And if you just keep going over the endless,
and white people like the slaps.
And you're getting the right people with slaps.
That's my thing.
And the first video we saw was Ying Yang Twins.
And people tried to make it seem like, oh,
because you're doing C-World, you fell off.
But I'm like, hey they got slaps.
And the people are fucking with these slaps.
Yeah, that's all that matters.
Those people wasn't there for the TVT era.
Yeah, it worked.
TVT ran this shit.
Yeah, it sure did.
Wait till Lil Jonky.
I don't care how they look today.
There's one of them.
Stop, I tell you.
No, no, no.
That's my man.
You're not talking like it.
No, but I said this when I went through, I almost cried the first time I went to the
Millennium Tour and them niggas came out.
I cried.
Like I love hip hop too much.
Bro, I can't see them.
I'm nigga, hell arms.
He was a, with Stonewall.
All right.
Fuck it.
What?
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me. This is me. This is me. This is me. This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me.
This is me. This is me. This is me. This is me. This is me. But we were questioning. The internet looking at Fat Joe performing at Sea World
and then looking at Waka performing at Sea World,
I don't think they should be compared.
They should not be compared.
Waka's set is for pandemonium.
And turn.
Mosh pit chaos.
Yes, yes.
True, exactly.
Fat Joe chilling a little bit.
Yeah, he's here.
Anyway.
Sea World got the bag.
Yo, speaking of shows though, I looked while I was down there
at the Nelly and Josh show, I looked to see what else
was coming, Bone Thugs in Harmony,
Three 6 Mafia, Tech 9, DJ Quik.
I was like, and Quik too?
And Quik.
I want to be in all of those.
No, that's one show.
You always say that.
That's one show.
That's one show.
Oh no.
I was like, I got to let Park still on. Yeah, we might have to go down there. We got say that. That's one show. That's one show. Oh no. I was like, I gotta let Parks know.
Yeah.
Yeah, so we out.
We might have to go down there.
We gotta make up for this Tyler shit.
We out.
Y'all see Quick still shading Dre on the internet
and liked it.
Mm-hmm.
He shading him?
Yeah.
He can't always shade him.
Somebody said,
Quick is who y'all think Dre is.
Something along them lines.
And you know, just a quick little double tap.
Just a little like.
A little double tap.
Shout out to Quik, man
One of the most underrated people
Quik and J.B. want to let niggas know
That's why
I'm watching all y'all get the name for all this shit, but
I'm really that
And y'all don't know
Yeah
Shout out to both of them
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Don't even pretend like a, just a smile would be nice.
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God damn.
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Now it's time for an uncomfortable part of the show you guys.
Uh oh.
Uh oh.
Oh man.
Ice.
Yes sir. I do have to step to you. Step to me. Step correctly though.
The streets are saying that you've lost a few points on your Chris Brown license
as a Breezy fan. I was in Turks,
just listening to the pod.
We ain't talking about the record.
That falls on nobody but the Breeze. And that rhymes with Breeze.
It does, it rhymes, it rhymes.
You were the only person.
Now I was in Turkey, I waited up for this record.
Because I heard the snippet.
Boy. And when it hit, it hit.
It did.
It was on repeat for me.
I argue that this might be the best R&B song
released this summer.
The record is amazing.
This might be Chris Brown's best record since No Guidance.
Oh wow.
Damn.
This is Chris Brown with one of those and he's trying to play it cute and subtle.
Like, yo, I'll let y'all hear this.
Y'all was requesting this one, so I let it out.
No, no, no, and that is a lie.
He knew.
So.
Oh, Lord. We gotta do this real quick.
New Breezy, Inga!
Ah, right in time on the summer tip. I'm gonna use all these rockin' But you call me toxic
And you make it easy for me to believe in lovin'
You better believe it, cause baby I'm with you on something
It's better than a dick you had before Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, pause, pause, pause right there.
And that's what lets you know that this is one of those, yo, when Chris get on and just start dirty
macking verse one, no, he'd say, yo, this dick is better than the dick you had before.
And he tried to croon it.
So he just before and he tried to croon it so Your fairy tale under your spell I am She gets your mail, oh and the trial will be
You screamin' yeah, I can't come for help from here
You can't call for help from here
Even though that line can be tricky now
If I say, that line can be tricky now
But when you add that consent
Oh, stop
When you got that consent
You screamin' yeah, I can't call for help from here.
Folding it out.
Oh my God.
Oh man.
Oh love.
A few things about this record.
I already told you how amazing I think this record is.
This record is it.
And I'll, listen, I'll get vulnerable for a minute.
Josie came up here, behind the scenes, she played the record with her and Chris Brown.
It was absolute heat.
It was absolute heat, Jossie and Chris Brown.
She sent it to me, I had it, I'm not supposed to tell nobody about it.
I let that slide.
Then I went to the studio with Berg.
Berg started playing crazy records. One of them was Chris Brown and Janay
It's heat. I told him to send it to me. I have it not full talk. I'm not supposed to talk about
So here in him do this
Knowing that those other records exist
He's about to do something different this boy yeah and I like the
timing of the drop the US tour starts with today mmm so yeah let me put this
one out he know what time you know he know what time it is with this record
I'm telling you also I want to say if you are calling Bryson Tiller to feature on your R&B song and it's hot outside, be careful.
Be very cautious.
Bryson Tiller is my type of toxic.
He's a real adult 40 year old type of toxic.
You know how toxic you got to be the out toxic Chris Brown.
Bryson took off. Bryson ate. Clock that.
What did you? You got clocked. You got clocked. Listen. What you
for? No, no, no, no, no, no. This song made me go back to
Bryson album, old Chris albums. You just know that a Usher
remix is coming to this. You just know Usher remix is coming to this you just know us your remix is coming to this
What you want to do I already let you go free at night. See that's a different level of Dirty Mac. That's not, yo my dick is better than the dick you have. That's, yo you can
get away from him. Come on. Hey you ain't gotta leave him. But after round 12, oh my god
Anytime a nigga stopped the record to breathe if if a nigga put breathing in the record, he took off.
You know?
Dog, there's a bridge on this record. It seemed like this record would end right here, two minutes, 30 seconds like the kids
do.
There's a bridge on this, it's a bitch, it's four minutes long, the song.
Oh shit.
That sound like ancient-
Song from the 19th.
19th.
A song from the fucking 19th.
One May for the day.
Four minutes and 10 seconds.
You could really fuck to this motherfucker
Listen Chris breezy Chris breezy. Hey real niggas. No, this is right up there with warm embrace
This is up there I'm done after this, I'm done after this, I promise. Oh God, this is crazy, this is sick.
My girl gotta be tired of this with me.
She gotta be tired of this with me.
This was my only break from them fucking kids.
Waking up at 6 in the morning to go outside with my coffee and this Chris Brown record.
This record is out of here.
Absolutely gone.
Let me say my word for it. Let me say my word for it. I like it a lot. Let me say my word for it.
It doesn't even matter. This is hot. This is hot. I like it a lot. Gone, gone, gone this record.
Shout out to Chris Brown, and Jason Tiller. Y'all did it. Are you crazy?
John Brison tiller y'all did it. Are you crazy?
Puffs in the eyes out freaky ass
What is wrong with that nigga man? Yo take his tablet
Oh you niggas know, I see. That's a wild way to hit the scene.
With the eyes.
Just let niggas know I'm around.
He already said niggas would talk to his man.
He said niggas would talk to your man.
Oh, Tore?
Yeah, tell him.
That nigga switched his whole shit out.
He went from having the Afro like carrot
to motherfucking braids nigga.
He said, ah yeah, we see you nigga.
I wanna big up the Freddie Gibbs album
with Alchemist, Alfredo too,
but I do wanna G-check the internet as well
while I was gone, I was reading.
That includes us.
I don't know if it includes y'all. I put a stop to that one up here I thought. I don't know if it includes y'all.
I put a stop to that one up here I thought.
I don't know about that.
Y'all said that.
You put a kind of stop on it.
I know, I put a stop to it.
I said it doesn't have the depth of clips.
The internet is like y'all crazy.
Internet, rest in peace, Dallas.
Internet.
It's a combat jack.
Slow down.
Relax.
It's okay.
It's a very good album.
It's a very good album.
I like it.
I think Alchemist showed his ass.
Oh, D.
They both showed their ass.
Both did.
I don't know that this is better than Alfredo One.
I don't.
I like this better than Alfredo One.
I like, yeah.
I like.
I don't know that it's better than Alfredo One.
I gotta listen to it some more.
I don't know if it's better than the Chains in June album
that Alchemist also put out this year.
I have to go back to that.
If you wanna keep it 2025.
I have to go back to that.
I have to go back to it too.
Chains is somehow underrated.
But one thing I can tell you is
I see what y'all are trying to do
with this and the Clips album and stop.
Yeah, you don't gotta do that.
Stop it.
Stop it.
Stop it.
Whoever's doing it.
I don't know who's doing it because I was in Turks.
It's really good.
I was in Turks.
It's very good.
It's really good.
And it's a little bit apples and oranges.
This is a little bit more straight ahead, just kind of rap and hip hop shit.
That's what I love about it.
Yeah.
That's what I love about it.
People want that.
Yeah, for sure.
That's what I want.
That's why they would put it. And not to say that ClipZone is not hip hop,
I'm just saying this one's a little more freestyle-y.
I'm not pretty for the internet.
If you want hands on the wheel,
crossing the state line, nigga,
dumb diddy, dumb diddy, dumb,
the fuck are you talking about here?
Well, let me ask you,
if we went old school source style,
are you saying ClipZone's five mics?
I don't know, it's five.
Hot take that's not such a hot take,
I have that Clips album winning album of the year
at the Grammys.
Album of the year or rap album of the year?
What, rap album something.
Rap album, one of them.
No, no, no, not album with Taylor Swift, no, no.
I'm talking about rap album.
That Clips album is winning album of the year.
I don't know that.
And this podcast.
It's gotta go against Kendrick.
It's gotta go against G&X.
I wouldn't give a fuck who it gotta go against. I wouldn't give a fuck who it gotta go against.
I wouldn't give a fuck who it gotta go against.
They didn't shower Kendrick with enough shit.
You might be right.
By the time we get to next year's Grammys.
And the movie they doing.
The Kendrick show should be over.
Should be.
We done gave them everything already.
Yeah.
We did G&X.
We got it.
This album I think continues.
This podcast is run of hosting the rap album of the year.
Winners with Killer Mike and who won last year?
We had them up here too, whoever won last year.
Don't you, don't you.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't you, don't you.
Yeah, we will continue our streak
of having the award winners up here.
That Clips album is winning.
It's a really good album.
I could see that.
I don't know.
I could see it not even just in terms of how good
the album is and I'm not, again, I don't want to step on,
it is an amazing album, it is the best rap album to me,
but it's a lot of politics that go involved with Grammy,
and the moves that they're making.
That's it, so that's why I see that.
You know how I might be rolling with this?
When I was at my white people party this weekend
in the woods, and they're playing all the rock,
independent rock shit that's slapping,
all they want to do is stop and talk to me about the clips
Oh
That's it really is a cultural moment. It is yeah, it is people are talking about this
It was the first album my son played when we got in Turks
I heard that album in Turks just driving around there are people discussing this they still doing all the grassroots shit
They are block parties. They popping up everywhere. They got the Chappelle joint. I think that, yeah, the Chappelle,
I think that they did late night,
fuckin', they sat with one of them niggas.
I also think this is the trade-off for the Hov-verse.
We don't get a Hov-verse,
but Hov is making a phone call behind the scenes.
You are, this is a Roc Nation release,
he's back there calling somebody.
Steven Victor is back there calling somebody.
We see clips and think street drug dealer.
No, them niggas is...
This is different.
Yeah, yeah.
This is very different.
And they might bring Stevie out on stage,
do birds don't sing.
Lenny Kravitz.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It feels like we're talking about two different things.
Like, is it gonna win album of the year?
Yeah, I will put my money on that.
I would say yeah.
But is it the best album is the question.
And an album of the year always isn't the best album.
If I were given, to use the mic reference again,
I feel like this is a four and a half mic album,
the Clips album.
I'm with you on that.
I wouldn't die on the hill if somebody said five,
but I think it's a four and a half album.
I think Freddie Gibbs' album is four and a half too.
I think Freddie's a four.
But if somebody said four,
if somebody said four, I wouldn't die on that hill either.
I think they're in the same conversation.
I think part of me being excited about the Freddie Gibbs
album is also just so that people appreciate the moment we're in
where a lot of good hip hop is coming out.
Finally.
And it's like for me even telling people,
even when I, because I tweeted out,
yo this might be my pick for album of the year
Freddie Gibbs as opposed to the Clips.
And I said I love the Clips album.
It's because I want people to listen to all this dope shit
that's out here at the same time
and not just that one album.
Even though the Clips album is amazing.
Well I smiled to myself after I listened
to the Freddie Gibbs album because it was like,
yo for maybe the first time in my life I think all the rappers I fuck with are winning.
Yeah. The rappers that I enjoy are doing a hell of a job out there. I see. So I'm not mad at
none of it. Everyone. Everybody. Everybody. I don't think I've ever been able to say that before.
I don't think I've ever been able to say that before.
I like Freddie's album. It's not in the same league as a Clips Pharrell album to me.
Not in the same league?
No, it's not in the same league.
To me, it's just the songs don't have
quite the same depth as the Clips album.
I think that's right, but for me-
The rapping is not on par either.
The rapping is not on par.
He was getting shit off.
The rapping, I disagree.
The rapping is not on par.
Freddie Gibbs is my man man. What them boys did on that album
is that should be in a museum somewhere. Freddie Gibbs is a great rapper. What them boys did was
great rappers elevating and it should be away. It should be away. You thoroughly listen to him. Yes. Yes. He's wrapping his ass off. Nothing on there is malice verse on POV. None is on there is
malice verse on FICO. If we go in verse for verse, there's nothing on there like
some of those clip words. I'm glazed. I don't give a fuck. I think the best
verses on Clips album are better than the best verses on Alfredo too. But I
think if you look at that, like the average quality of verse, I think. One album has choruses.
That's gonna be the difference for me.
One album has choruses.
One album has songs.
But again, that's a certain thing.
That's not the shit I want sometimes.
Sometimes I want that old school rockin' soundbombin' type.
I get why you fuck with it so much,
cause the first three or four songs is giving me,
it's a lot of jazz.
It's the second half of the album,
that's where it kicks up.
Me too.
That JID verse, woo.
JID, who we have coming here soon,
to ask him about this absolute tear that he has been on.
Oh good, good.
Is he ready for that next round?
I think he's here next week.
So we get to talk to him.
Good.
Gas Station Sushi.
I still love her.
That whole second.
I love the second half, you're right.
I fuck with the first half for a different reason
than I fuck with the second half, but they both.
But together.
Together they make it great. Yeah, I'm with the first half for a different reason than I fuck with the second half, but they both are made. Together they make it great, yeah.
I'm with Mark.
This makes a great album.
I just go back and press play and just let it go.
I listen to it all the way when I'm flying.
I listen to it all the way home.
I listen to it twice the way home from a long ass drive.
Yeah.
Long ass drive.
But I go back and forth between the two,
which is a very happy place for me.
Yeah.
Dog, motherfucking.
One, two, three.
This one? Gibbs album.
Yo, and that's the other thing too I'm noticing.
All the albums I'm really enjoying
do make me go right back to Mobb Deep.
After Herb, Gas Station, Super.
Come on.
Oh, god.
Oh, man.
Oh, man. Oh, man. I think my favorites are gas station sushi and empanadas
Which one you said
And and Salada and Salada and bananas
I'm just my favorites lemon pepper steppers
I'm gonna get a skinny skinny suit part two live up to step is my shit
Yeah, she's just she lav Like bro, this album just gold.
That was crazy.
It really is.
The minute when it's four, five, six, seven, and eight
is like, oh.
Yeah.
But after this, somebody not rapping.
And I'm not mad at a nice quality.
How long is this shit?
37 minutes?
Yeah, 37 minutes.
48.
48 minutes.
Why does mine say 37?
You got that one.
You're missing some songs, man. Download all the songs. Oh, show complete album. Yeah, yeah, hit that does mine say 37? You got that one, you're missing some songs.
Download all the songs.
All the songs.
Yeah, yeah, hit that complete album.
I don't like that one.
That's why he only missed three tracks.
Yeah, he missed the best three tracks probably.
That's weird to me.
I still love her.
I love her.
That's my shit.
That's your priority.
What I'm saying.
Oh shit was cool.
Who are the younger crowd catering more to?
Freddie Gibbs or the Clips album?
Maybe neither.
This ain't for neither.
This ain't for neither one.
No, but I have seen some of the younger crowd
gravitate to the Clips album.
I mean, I've seen.
Or because it's so visible right now.
Yeah, they make it to that move.
Oh, that's what everybody talking about.
Okay, cool, let me attack.
I've seen that.
Freddie Gris, I heard about the album from you guys.
Well, that was my point when I was talking about the Clips album, when everybody said, this is going to change things, I'm like, no, it's not. You did say that. Freddie Gris, I heard about the album from you guys. Well that was my point when I was talking about the Clips album, when everybody said
it's gonna change things, I'm like no it's not. The Clips album, because of the marketing,
is getting visible everywhere. Yeah.
Gibbs album, unless you are a real fan checking for this, you're not gonna hear this album.
To be fair, in the closeness of their release, I don't know if they had time to learn some
things from the way that Clips handled it.
So when you guys compare that.
Although they ran around crazy for the chains album.
When you three compare the album,
you're basically talking about rapping and quality wise.
Correct.
Beats rhymes.
So we would acknowledge that the Clips
had a bigger impact than.
Yeah, yeah, it's not even close.
Of course, it's not even close.
That's why I'm saying the Grammys, they got it.
I don't think we're gonna see that impact again
for the rest of the year.
Bro, just clips, yo, just clips announcing an album
before anything drops is a moment just because.
It ain't this shit. 15 years.
20 years of brand equity.
Got it.
No, I understand that.
You're relying on some, them performing
at that block party look like
like they stuck to who they were.
Yeah. Like it still means something to me that I haven't
seen them with a streamer or they stand far away from you
streamers that respect y'all are not the audience.
That's not what we're doing right here.
My people not watching streams. Right. But again,
no disrespect malice on FICO both of them niggas on POV. Yeah
Yeah
They got some verses you would have hit rap genius for like you you want to really?
Yeah, like it's and the records. I didn't like it first now. I love
which one
The dream on it
Even though I love I just don't like the opening verse I but I didn't like that song things consider my mama cheek I miss it I want
to kill those verses were crazy yeah I didn't like that was the one when that
we were before we were recording us like adding like some of the Pharrell stuff
that was the one yeah that was the one I had to skip. That was the only that's the only song. But now I appreciate the
change of pace that it provides sure on this project. The Gibbs album is missing a birds
don't sing to me. That's that's exactly what I said. I think that's fair like if he get in there
and tries to do that I have no doubt that he can do that absolutely because he's one of the best.
I still love her it was a little bit of that. I still love her.
Not to that level, but.
Yeah, yeah, I still love her.
That was his dad.
Yeah.
I said, Gibbs want to come up here too.
He should come up.
Gibbs is welcome.
I do.
There's a list of people that are-
Al's been supposed to come up here, by the way.
And send a beat pack.
There's a list of people that are welcome
anywhere Joe Budden exists.
I told him the same thing.
Anywhere that I call home is home for a few people.
Like I seen Ransom Kiki in the comments
with some nigga that, some nigga that,
hey, you gotta let you up there.
Ransom talking about Kiki.
No nigga, don't Kiki.
You know.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah, nah.
I feel about you.
And at 44, about to be 45, I don't have time to hide feelings when I love people.
Work.
Especially all us that came up together, Rand.
No one is in Jersey.
And Rand's been up here.
Yeah.
Come again.
Yeah, he should be here.
Come again.
God damn it.
Yeah, especially.
Healthy ass, cardio, running ass niggas.
These niggas.
These niggas is looking extra good out here.
Pause. Health is what extra good out here pause
That's when you're doing more than that 15 minutes on the fucking treadmill. I'm doing that's why I told They're running for now John his man's at the shot said all right
I'm going to the gym like y'all not gonna keep doing this. I think it's 50 freeze
You should go to the gym ish. I tell every week. He should go to the gym
I'm off my vacay body
Said like you actually have some muscle. You're not actually you have more muscles on the arm You should go to the gym. I'd finish that too. I look like shit because I'm more of my vacay body. No, no, no. Actually, when you got up, I actually said like,
you actually have some muscle, not actually,
you have more muscles on your arm.
That's sharp.
There's no shade.
My girl's always saying it's shady.
It is shady.
Oh shit, look at your arms!
No, there's my muscle tone in, but I can see
what you and Cory and I are doing every week is working.
It just feels good.
Yeah, it's good for your mental health too.
Yep, that's the only thing keeping me going some weeks
is working out, honest to God.
And once you get into the routine of it,
it's not hard, yo.
Yeah.
It's more hard when you miss a day.
Yeah.
You be tight.
And it's made for niggas in their 40s.
This is our time.
It is.
It's our time to do that shit.
Yeah.
Anywho, who are y'all waiting for?
I don't know if there's gonna be a surprise release or not but it's no Allegra. Oh. Actually Chris Brown. But I'm talking about like
in terms of like like we've gotten Gibbs now we got because the first half of the year I was like
this is a drought. I don't I wasn't happy with it. It was slow. Yeah now I'm like for the second half who do y'all
want to hear from it y'all? That's plausible. Personally Meek. I'm still waiting for Meek.
I want this Roddy Ricch Navy album to drop. I don't know what's going on. This is like the I still, personally, Meek, I'm still waiting for Meek.
I want this Roddy Ricch Navy album to drop. I don't know what's going on.
This is like the fifth date.
I don't know who's scared to drop this album,
but just something that I'm personally looking forward to,
those two projects for sure.
Because Meek has been working on some shit
off of the Friday feature and stuff like that.
I'm ready to hear a Meek album.
Same.
And I'm always, even though I think he's retired,
I'm always gonna say when you bring these conversations up,
I still want a FAB project.
I do too.
Yeah, we know.
I'm always going.
I feel like somebody from New York is supposed to unpack
whatever's going on with FAB.
I'm gonna always say it.
And nobody's doing it.
So I feel like it's my job.
It should be you.
It should be you, really. FAB, a month ago. I spoke to him when Berg was here. He
said I said yo nigga, the fuck is up come up here, your ass up here and he
said yeah, but me to come up there actually the man in fact, I'm talking
clothes on right now. I make it up here. He didn't come and I ain't called right,
but he should come yeah pause. He should make his way up here. I don't know what Right. But he should come. Yeah. Pause.
He should make his way up here.
I don't know what's going on with him.
I'm still waiting for the whole slate of Mass Appeal records.
Nas, Priem, Ghostface.
That's the shit I'm most excited about.
I think there was a Big L project.
It's the group, Big L project, yeah.
I think there's a Mobb Deep.
That I'm a little worried about.
A Mobb Deep and Alchemist project, I think.
I don't know if it's this year, but I know that's happening. Yeah snow summer Janae
Mmm snow summer Janae. I'm on my arm be shit. I don't know if J. Cole stuck so much
If there if I wouldn't mind that I'm not necessarily waiting on that right now
Just gonna want an R&B mold but I love that. If an elite rapper is gonna drop something
once out of nowhere, I'm hoping it's J. Cole.
That's who I would, that seems reasonable,
like, J. Cole ain't gonna put one out this summer, probably.
I do think that we're owed a whole verse.
A whole verse, yes.
Yeah.
Just a verse.
A verse.
We're owed a whole verse.
It was supposed to be on that Clips album,
but y'all got it.
It was supposed to be there, yeah.
It was, god damn right, it was supposed to be there.
I wouldn't be mad at Deluxe, Clips,
and Kendrick albums too, for nothing.
I would.
Clips say they don't do Deluxe,
but I think with this you, yeah, I don't wanna hear that.
Call us up, we'll do it.
Do it Deluxe.
Call, yeah, give it another name,
whatever you wanna call it.
I mean they did say like they're going right back in.
I wouldn't do it either.
I wouldn't do it either.
You wouldn't Deluxe it?
Not this.
Not this.
You call it something else.
This is a statement. They making an something else. This is a statement.
They making an art statement.
It is.
This album is the album.
Even the movement, everything around it.
I'm not diluting it with songs that could've went
other records for Virgin Megastore, whatever the fuck.
This is my art.
This is how I'm presenting it.
And that's that.
The system will not force me to do it another way
because I'll make more money.
So I like them taking that stand.
And everything, every move that they make now
is kinda showing that I'm not playing the system game.
So yeah, yeah.
Call it shit or something, call it B-Side.
I don't care, call it what you want.
Call it whatever you want.
Well that's the thing, the album,
it makes you say hopefully there's not another long hiatus.
Like I'll take an EP.
Well that's what they, you see what they said.
They ready to get right back to it now.
Great.
And yo, with a lot of, with the independence comes the,
yo I can drop now whenever I feel like it.
Some people it's motivation there.
Instead I have to play label games
and oh I can't get this cleared, I can't drop,
I can't do this. Now I got freedom.
Yeah, I want to go back out there.
How come I bought the Freddie Gibbs album
and was missing songs?
That's weird.
I don't like the Apple system.
Sometimes it'd be weird.
Yeah, sometimes it'd be weird.
Yeah, I don't like that.
Especially if you buy it like the second it drops.
Sometimes it'd be funny.
All right, I have to go listen to the songs I missed.
Yeah.
You might feel different.
No, I won't.
You won't feel different.
No, I won't feel different.
You may give a quarter mic a head or something. You know what I'm saying? You may. Yo, dog, that Cliffs album. No, I won't. You won't feel different. No, I won't feel different. You may give a quarter of a mic a head or something.
You know what I'm saying?
You may.
Yo, dog, that Cliffs album really is just different for me.
I get it.
For me, it's different.
I get it.
Maybe it's them, CMP, I don't know what it is.
It's clearly the bar dish.
No, it is the bar.
It's the bar.
And I wouldn't fight nobody.
Even for people that's not real, like,
diehard hip hop fans, like Park said.
My wife love it.
People are going to bring up,
when you mention rap albums,
just think of her so much about it.
That's true.
But she's not usually running for the hip hop,
hip hop, hip hop.
My girl don't mind when I throw it off.
Yeah.
Same.
She don't say it word.
I'll be playing some other shit
and she'll be like, I want to hear Burris.
I'll say, alright bud.
Burris don't, Burris don't.
But yeah, this is like the conversation,
this is the one.
Everything's getting compared to this.
It's the album of the year for sure. Yeah.
In terms of like the standard and in terms of what people talk about.
Hip-hop, no question.
Yeah.
Is there anything else in music that we need to hit?
I know I shout a Yay Ali's project out before I left.
That shit is still in rotation.
Short, but it is in rotation.
So we not excited about Drake possibly dropping the album.
I mean, if it comes, yeah.
I'll be excited.
When it comes.
Based off the two songs you heard,
one of them you don't like, the other one we like,
where does that put you on?
I don't think it's fair for me to be the voice
because I shouldn't be the voice.
I think somebody that's truly excited about it
should be the voice.
What acts should be the voice?
Number two on the list.
Got it. I'm not all the voice? Number two on the list. Got it.
I'm not all the way excited, like waiting for,
of course when it comes I'm gonna listen,
but it sound like he on some London Man shit.
Yeah, that's right.
So I'm not rushing to it, but of course I'm here.
Of course we gonna cover it.
It's still Drake.
Right. Yeah, yeah.
I don't think Drake can make a bad song
outside the happy birthday shit was atrocious to me.
But other than that, like he gonna make a good song
And I like sent you see but don't try to fool me into thinking that that's what's gonna get American bitches loose
This thing is crazy. You can't trick me. I know American women way too well
And it's been a man done got no something like this for the girl. I'm swing
It might not be for the American chicks I go back to what y'all told me about that Honestly, never mind album that I hate it. American. When I said that, y'all kept telling me,
yo, it's not for here, it's for San Tropez,
and it's for over there, so he make your music
for over there and there.
No, stop it.
That shit go right here.
That's what y'all said to me.
Don't force it.
But you know, I turn up the portable minute,
but this is my problem.
This is my problem with this cast outside of everybody
not being all black.
This is my problem with the cast.
I want you to flip.
But listen.
It's an uptick in it.
This is my, that's how they write it.
This nigga went to the grave site,
he went to the body grave site,
his grandfather taught that.
The ancestors, right?
He went to the ancestral plane and came back on some.
Ever since he came back, real quick,
ever since he came back from South Carolina,
he's been on this, bro. Yeah. Shit been different, bro. No, I came real quick ever since he came back from South Carolina he's been on this bro.
Yeah. Shit been different. I just watched I watched the bond back so I hear the takes and it'd be like
okay go Hulk Hogan not so black. Nobody said that. We heard it. But listen this is what I'm saying
when is Mark gonna go outside and do a litmus test for any record?
I'm going to wait.
He's not.
He's not.
When is Flip going outside to do a litmus test on the music that is being played and
what it's doing to the audience?
I'm going to wait.
Can I ask a question now in return?
What does that have to do with if a person like a record?
You halfway, because your girl is going to make you come outside
to something and it's going to come on.
Halfway for you a little bit.
It's shaky, but you a little bit.
Parks I don't really talk to cause he going to be outside.
Y'all with the girls, y'all going to go,
y'all going to be together actually.
You never say.
That's one.
Where's Ish going to hear this song?
I'm asking you.
I don't know B for nobody.
Shout out to our brother.
He's here with us in Spirit Mound.
That's my man.
He be outside though.
He be outside.
You know that.
You know he be outside.
He not here.
He might be outside right now.
He probably acting like.
That's why I took a down.
Ish wasn't a flood nigga.
What is this?
He burned nigga.
And again, I'm open to being wrong.
So let me see if my mind changed.
Let me look at me.
Does my hair look beautiful?
He set this up for this.
Do my titties look right?
You think I can knock the boy off right now?
All the girls that's here for the truth,
come put both hands on a DJ booth,
then wind your way to the big man sound.
And I get too stiff, cause I tink too round the card.
You think I can knock the boy off right now? All the girls that's here for the truth, come put both hands on a DJ booth, And I get too stiff cuz I think so wrong
What point are y'all getting up to rush to the dear floor my thing to stiff cut the girl to round what? I ain't even know dance floors, you know that. Alright, keep it going. Ain't no dance floors. Let me see. Let me see. This could be Mitchell and the Wall,
and she gon' get on there and do what she do.
Alright.
You're not allowed to tinge your round your real...
Okay.
Don't listen to that, fuck this nigga, man.
Girl, I'm so bringin' you down, but come to the bed,
I'll fling you around with.
These guys can't make songs for the girl,
them trust me, this how the singles should sound.
Fuck anyone that's bringin' you down.
Sweetheart, you're doin doing your thing right now Yeah
But but we get that reaction cuz they're not going away they Joe
don't know where they, they just listening in the computer speaking, you know what's funny though?
Oh shit, oh they might not bring them round
and the girls don't shake their waist come round
and your little tiny thing right now.
But you're doing what I miss from rap.
Hey Joe, go somewhere other than the strip club.
And put two hands on a DJ booth
and they come down you till they're bandan to die.
Go somewhere other than the strip club.
This might not work there, but in the lounges,
this will work.
They work in the lounges.
You have other fans, bro. You have other fans. This is what I'm saying in the lounges, this'll work. They work in the lounges. You have other fans, bro.
You have other fans.
This is what I'm saying.
This shit come on and say they gonna be dancing.
This shit come on in Stafford,
and them niggas will start throwing tomatoes at the DJ.
If this shit come on, this shit'll come on in Pergola,
maybe when the fucking Bengals are in town.
Get that.
Get that.
Get that.
When this shit'll come on and fucking say less, and fucking fucking let me see if the NASA's is there
if the NASA's wants to hear something.
The Joker goes to like the cafeteria.
Oh, they got them bring them around and that's like them ways to that day.
Hey, Drake, you ain't homeboy.
That nigga got wax and homeboy been around. Get your ass out of here.
Well, come out and let's see it. Come out and let's see if a DJ brings it on.
So y'all don't do DJ tests. And as somebody that never made songs,
I can see that.
But sometimes you make a song and just go out and give it to a DJ and just sit
there.
You got to go to the different ones. You got a different environments for that.
And you got to go to the different ones. You have to go to different ones.
I'll go outside to a different place just to hear what the DJ play.
All right, well let's do that then. Let's do that. Yeah, let's do that.
Are you allowed to go do this?
You might be getting to you. Can you do that? Yo, she's still, we ain't that far. I You wanna have sex, what you wanna make? Like which one, which one, which one, which one? Central C is my man, but he didn't.
He cool, he be fuckin'.
That's the worst thing a joker ever say to somebody.
I like Central C a lot.
That's my man.
That's the end.
All right, that's it.
All the girls wanna DJ,
and the switch at the end.
The switch at the end is hard.
Switch at the end is fine, man.
Joe hate that too.
I don't care. This is that too. I don't care.
This is a mess.
I don't care what Joe hate.
I don't think this helps his purpose at all.
I'm joking with y'all.
I'm not trying to get nobody to be against what he's doing.
I just don't think it helps what he's trying to do.
What is he trying to do?
Wait, what do you think he's trying to do?
Well, that's not what I think.
It's what he said, right?
Well, when What Did I Miss came out,
and all the talk was about where he would land
on number one, he hit his Instagram,
he was like, yo, if it ain't this one,
it'll be the next one.
Right, I'm gonna keep you.
If it ain't the next one,
it's gonna be the next one.
Something is coming, none of us may know,
I may not know, but y'all know I'm breaking that record.
And he's right, he's right.
Yeah, he's gonna get the record.
He's breaking that record.
This ain't gonna be the record.
Oh no, I don't think there's gonna be
Fun record it's a fun record is a good way to put we're not looking at the lyrical breakdown of right
Yeah, but y'all want this to come on and get a dance from your girl your wives
Like that's my problem
Your wives. Like that's my problem.
Like that's what I'm saying about you bitch ass niggas.
Like y'all are judging this from the angle of baby dance with me.
Not me.
Hit that beat. Hey, baby, go to the store with me. I said my girl on the Target, nigga.
Every single day I ain't got smoke.
Junk in the trunk, can't see if I'm fine.
Got your way, your teeth, it's big.
I'm strong.
The back side weird, don't want no money.
I got X if you want to take drugs.
I said my girl on the Target, yo.
I said my girl in the supermarket, nigga.
Some strange shit on me.
See if it works.
You can't grade no record with your girl.
Dancing on you. Anyway, I got X if you want to take drugs. Shit on me see if it works you can't grade no record with your girl
I got extra if y'all want to take drugs
Always fucking incriminate themselves, but since she's a cool nigga I can't I want to hate on Drake, but not the niggas he be with like boy wonder
I love the niggas he be with but get this shit the fuck out of here anyway
Mark you coming out well I can't wait for that
what I'm gonna be falling asleep at the bar tell Mel that you coming out and
your wife
Tell me what you want, will you really really rock? Put the queen on the slot, you just rock.
Oh shit.
What else we got?
What else we got?
Oh shit, on the Chris Brown front, Deon Sanders.
I see what you did.
Well played, sir.
I was thinking like, oh fuck.
Deon Sanders, bladder cancer.
They say he had it removed, had a successful surgery.
So we want to hear the round.
He's cancer free.
Yeah, we want to hear the round of applause
for Deion Sanders.
But you know black people.
Right.
Yo, I've been laughing at black people for that.
We can't help it.
Nope.
We couldn't just say,
Nope.
That's awesome, way to go, Prime.
Somehow we are focused on Karuchi's appearance.
Yep.
She was by his side the whole time.
Good woman.
That's right.
When you get a good one, that's right.
Now, what is this?
Why is this news?
Because you're a little hot ass.
Because ain't nobody know.
Anybody know.
That's really why.
And I saw the news, I saw the show,
they're trying to be mature about it.
They were saying, oh, Deon's recovering
and Crew Chief was there by his side the whole time.
It just left it out there like meat for the wolves.
You know what I mean?
Y'all speak for yourselves.
My investigative skills may not be on the level of my girl,
but they ain't the worst.
When Ch'Nur Sanders, before the draft,
was having all them parties,
some of the people that was showing up, I didn't think they was there for him
About where should door Sanders would be drafted some of them was there for good old D on
Silky gray-ass they heard must be the money they didn't hear that they don't know they don't know they weren't there for that Right, gray ass beard. That ain't her, it must be the money. They didn't hear that, they don't know.
They don't know, they weren't there for that.
Right, right, they wasn't there.
They weren't there for that.
That was the 19s.
Yeah, that was the 19s.
That was the deep in the 19s.
Right.
Yeah, so, Karuchi was there.
I'm applauding Black and Brown love.
What is she?
She's something.
Black and Brown.
Black and Brown love, I'm applauding it.
I see y'all tried to make it nasty
because of the age difference
No, I'm not looking at this like
She's an adult yeah, she can fuck
Yeah, yeah, she can do what she wants to do
It's a little bit police
Beyond before he was with Karuchi if he's with Karuchi. He was with
What's her name?
Another famous woman.
Right.
No, no, he was publicly with her.
I don't know.
Yeah, he was very public on Instagram.
My point is he has dated several women
who have publicly dated other men before.
Okay.
My question is, I think there's something,
not even a question, I think there's something cool
about that, some dudes do it but aren't confident
about that, some people feel away about that,
some people think there's a stigma about that, I don't know how y'all think about that. Oh, I aren't confident about that. Some people feel away about that. Some people think there's a stigma about that.
I don't know how y'all think about that.
Oh, I don't care about it.
I don't give a fuck.
I dated at least nine people right after Fab.
I didn't care.
They told me too, yo, Fab, we're ass.
Tracy Edmonds, yeah.
Tracy Edmonds.
That's what I was thinking about.
I didn't want to say the wrong name.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Babyface's ex-wife.
Tracy Edmonds, that's what I was thinking about.
Oh.
I wouldn't give a fuck.
And now, Chris B, you're all hot.
Brownie niggas. Thirsty niggas. Back in the day, they used to tell you the rappers they was fucking with. Yeah,'t give a fuck. And that Chris Brown thing.
Back in the day, they used to tell you the rappers
they was fucking with.
Yeah, they did.
They'd be like, yo, hey, Ma, I don't give a fuck.
Who cares about none of that?
I was about to add one more to the list.
And that's what makes him like you more.
Hey, I see why he was in here.
Yeah, I see why he was in here.
Does that ever make it more attractive to you?
No, that's corny.
That's nasty.
I agree, but some people will.
Oh, no, there's nothing to do but chase it. I agree, but some people will. Oh no, there's niggas that chase.
I know a whole lot of niggas that go like,
eww.
Cause they'll be like,
I'm fucking so and so act.
That's corny.
That's wack.
You're a groupie for the nigga.
What the women like when you say you don't give a fuck.
I'm looking for who you dated before, girl.
You mind that.
Hey, me?
Fuck out of here.
If it breeze them niggas out, they'll have to get you
out of here.
It's my pussy now.
Some of that shit need lights on.
I'm magically excited because of that.
It's weird, but there's a few niggas out there
that I know was excited after the, you know what I mean?
After your work.
And it makes it weird.
It does make it weird.
How you can tell they're excited, gang?
I know.
They find ways to make it known that that was...
I know one in particular that was real corny with it.
Just trying to make it known that not only am I with her,
but that this is his ex.
It's like I'm making it more about the nigga than the girl.
And that's what's corny about it.
That's right, it's corny.
And it's weird,
because it seems like you almost competing with dudes.
That's what I'm saying, it's not about her.
It's just I want to show that I'm the same as him.
Right.
Because I used to think it was just weird like fanboy shit,
but it's actually more than that.
Sometimes it's actually like, I want to beat him.
You know what I mean?
I don't know, it's weird.
And it makes a whole movie, it puts a whole movie in my head
as the video for the Chris Brown record
before he ever released this one.
So now you're talking about Prime, Dick.
Oh, shit.
That's bad?
No, it's funny.
All right, take it back.
No.
Chris Brown versus Prime?
No, man.
For the Karoochee off?
No.
No.
No, no.
Stop it.
That nigga Prime is folding that shit like a launch. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Yo, I made it. I'm not going to lie, still getting some nice shit off
with the Pampers.
That's fucking salute.
We got Pampers, like six toes and no black.
You ain't missing a toe.
It's getting busy.
That's still Pront, you got to do it.
Yo, that's fucking salute.
Karuchi, boy.
Go ahead, Karuchi.
Last time I seen Karuchi,
she had came up to the complex offices for a little bit
and she had everybody head up there in a tailspin.
She is the one.
She's stunning.
I bumped into her Jamaican jerk cut in the villa.
I had no who the fuck it was at the time.
I was like, who the fuck is that?
And then somebody whispered and told me
and I stayed in my place and sat in my chair.
But, cause this was like maybe like 10 years ago.
She's just like in person.
You know some people don't look as good.
She looks amazing in person. I'm sure. was like damn. No, she had everybody everybody was gone. Yeah, I didn't blame him
Pretty girl pretty girl
At this point, I feel like Dre is just trolling us with her shit. What's she do?
Every week she pop up with some new shit like
It was how long have you had your license?
And he said, oh, six months ago.
She played like little TikTok games.
Yeah.
Everything played on his age.
Yes.
Yeah.
Lean into it.
Fuck it.
Y'all gonna talk anyway.
Dre is a business woman.
So I'm gonna use it.
It's nasty.
Hey, we all talk about narratives
and some people lean into them
and others run away from them.
So y'all going to keep talking?
Fine, I'm going to lean into it.
That's nasty.
I don't see it that way.
I'm not all the way, I'm with you.
Yeah, I don't see it that way.
You got to have a kid, you got a kid.
We got a kid?
Yeah.
I'm with you.
It is what it is.
Y'all are going to talk.
I'm not going nowhere. Oh, because a kid means They got a kid. We got a kid? I'm with you. It is what it is. Y'all are going to talk.
I'm not going nowhere.
Oh, cause a kid means we got to talk.
No, no, no.
I'm not.
No, no.
I'm talking about the people are going to talk.
It's a fucking ass.
Fuck.
Oh shit.
I hate this nigga.
Yo.
I don't know.
This fucking asshole, bruh.
Oh shit.
Man, pussy in the pampers. Wow.
Salute.
Shout out to him. I'm glad he's recovered and he's going to be playing, he's going to be coaching.
He says he's going to be back on the field coaching.
Same way, put the port-a-potty on the sideline, but it's all good.
Yeah, it's fire.
You ever come in a girl, she told you you ain't got to worry because she's not ovulating?
Yeah.
Did you feel, did that bring you comfort?
No. I had a girl tell me feel, did that bring you comfort? No.
No.
I had a girl tell me that.
And I thought she meant she was not.
I was like 19, 20.
I didn't know the answer right.
Way back.
Back in the 1900s.
Yeah, in the 1910s.
In the 1910s.
In the 1910s.
Yeah, I had just moved out the coat,
but she was still kind of in.
And she wore, her garb was all covered,
her face was all covered up.
But under the garb, she was like,
I think she ended up being a dancer
in New York, she was...
Quite the trajectory.
Quite the trajectory.
But oddly, common, and she was bad as shit,
and I didn't use it, kind of, I busted all that shit, man,
and I was like, should I pull up?
She's like, no, no, you're good, you're good, you're good.
Oh, you fell for it.
Yeah, and then like a week later, I was like,
she was like, you know you came at me, right?
I was like, yeah, you told me I could.
You said it was good.
Like, you can't have kids, right?
She's like, no, I didn't mean that.
I said, what you mean by that?
She was like, I just meant like,
God wouldn't do that to me.
Wait, what?
Yeah, I didn't.
Got him.
Yeah, Po.
How many times that worked on you?
Twice.
One more time, but that time I was, yeah, I take the L for the second time.
That time, yeah, because she said it with such confidence,
I thought it was like a medical reason.
She was like, yeah, I wouldn't do that to me.
I'm not in my ovulation period.
Bitch, if you don't take this pill and FaceTime me.
That's the oldest chick in the book.
Send the video.
Send the video.
Send the video.
Send, hey, send the video.
Send the video. Send the video. Send the video. Send the video.
Send the video.
In some instances where they try to make men
seem like assholes and I don't be vibing with it.
Like send the video, you can't make the man be an asshole.
Send the video.
Yeah, but he really wasn't being an asshole.
He was keeping the conversation here.
Like yo, we not friends, we don't have nothing to talk about.
You trying to take us and, you know, BS me over here?
No, this is a transactional conversation.
You want this, send video.
That's not asshole.
Speaking of that, that's going on right this second.
DeAndre Aiden seems to be under fire or not under fire
because he was in Turks.
He sent the private jet for a young lady
that goes by the name of Caribbean Curls on Instagram.
Okay. What? How'd the name of Caribbean Curls on Instagram. Okay.
What?
How she look?
Caribbean Curls.
The name sounds, yeah.
She's a great looking girl.
I'm in the itch shit, ho-wham.
Ho-wham, but if my memory serves correct,
she was younger, at least when I found her, she was 22.
Whatever she's wearing with them gray sweats on.
Now she gotta be 24 or some shit,
but Deandre Hayden is young and old, man.
So he flew her out on the PJ.
She says that because she didn't want to fuck,
DeAndre Aiden's security kind of left her
in the middle of nowhere in Turks, which
does sound like some horrific shit to do do until I take into account all the scenarios
and stories that women are coming up with when they're in private with a guy.
So where do y'all stand on this?
So when I heard the story, I was like, that's fucked up.
It's always fucked up to leave somebody in another country.
I see you.
You see her, right?
Yo, you with that? for the people that are wondering
why we laughing at, we went to her page
to do our journalistic investigation.
You and itch right there.
And two people that follow her from the JVP.
Right there.
Joseph Anthony Budden and Anton Ishmore.
I meant to, that shouldn't be,
I meant to unfollow that girl years ago.
That girl is too young for me to follow,
so I'm gonna unfollow, I didn't know that. Seriously? I'm dead serious. You might have followed her recently, I don't think you did girl years ago. That girl is too young for me to follow, so I'm gonna unfollow her.
I didn't know that.
I'm dead serious.
You might have followed her recently.
I don't think you did it when she was young.
I don't know, but I wanna unfollow that girl.
Okay, okay.
I'm not playing with none of you 23-year-olds.
I ain't doing it.
Sorry.
Oh, shit.
Sorry.
Turn that shit dark, nigga.
It's not dark.
It's just, we had a time where niggas need to have
discipline in certain areas.
Yeah, yeah, no, you're right.
That's real. I'm not playing like that.
But shout out to him.
In this scenario, do y'all blame him?
Yes.
Here's the thing.
It's two conversations happening on the internet.
I think they both wrong.
Some people are saying, yo, it's fucked up to leave somebody there.
It just is.
You should never leave somebody somewhere that you flew out.
It's just fucked up unless they did some horrific shit, right? You know, if I caught you stealing my shit
something like that, then it's different, right? But then other people are saying, like, well,
just because she's out there don't mean she got to have sex with him, which is also true. That's true.
That is true. But it's not, but it is unrealistic to say, to suggest that she had no idea. There is an implicit understanding that when I fly you out to another country
that we don't know each other, that there's some intimacy expected.
Now, you have a right to revoke the consent at any time.
I'm not saying if you fly out, you got to fuck.
I'm just saying no.
But to act like she was shocked by the prospect of fucking
after being flown to another country is kind of crazy to me.
But if she don't want to fuck him, don't fuck him.
And he has a right to.
I agree with everything you just said.
I agree with that too.
It's also funny, I see a lot of girls
tweeting things like, hey, fly me out.
I know what I'm doing.
I know what I got to do.
I've been dying at them tweets.
Hey, check this out.
If I get on a plane and go X, Y, Z,
I already know what I'm doing.
And you're making, how much is there?
That's why I'm laughing.
That's why I'm laughing, Ed Bitchy.
I see girls online saying,
they're trying to crucify Karoochee.
Bitch, Prime would have folded your ass up too.
Like, don't do that.
I see the girls laughing at Shorty
that got right to business with Duke Dennis.
Yo, you want some head?
Yeah.
And then he tried to-
Yo, and see, that's back to my point about
this thing.
Lady, most men have been in that situation where
you hot and head monster is coming and she's being direct.
Yo, would you like some head?
I'm the best head giver in Rochester.
Ask around about me.
I can make calls.
There's nobody that sucks dick in Rhode Island better than me
And now you gonna have to make the choice
Yeah, yeah, do I dip off in his bathroom real quick?
Mm-hmm, or do I leave it alone and some other discipline to do it that Duke wasn't a Duke Dennis. He double-backed
He was too intrigued
He was wait. He said well really but we can't say that right now, but for real
on right now, but for real. It's camera on right now.
No, you gotta do that. Tell me what happened when the best head giver
in Boston approached y'all in private and said,
yo, this is a Michelin star mouth.
What a man of God.
I want to give it to you right now.
You can find out for yourself firsthand.
How did y'all handle that?
I went back to my room and prayed.
Yeah, yeah. It I got the Bible.
It's right there in the ninth thing.
It's at the app.
Oh, yeah.
Exactly, that's why.
Oh, the girl dumb chick dumb round.
And the girl gets up on the ground.
I'm a little too stiff because your ass is too round.
And the girl gets stiff when it's round.
Da-dum-dum-do-si-do, it's round.
I'm married.
OK, Flip, Mark?
Not married, nigga.
I hear that shit. They play around like that, but I'm good. I'm married. They, Flip, Mark. Not married, nigga. I hear that shit, they play around like that,
but I'm good, I'm married.
They can smell married on me,
they don't even say that stuff to me.
My girl thought she was getting proposed to for a second.
That's our bad.
That's our bad.
I tried to hold you down on that shit.
You can't raise that as a possibility,
that just fucks up the weekend.
Well, nobody here should've raised that as a possibility.
Imani's a jerk.
Yes.
Imani is a jerk for that.
But.
That was definitely an IOU for all the jokes
that you make about the Nissan's and so and so forth.
You said you were bad.
You think she heard it?
Well, she heard it.
I was listening to the part.
And I didn't get to the fan on X that was like, hey,
skip to 21.01.
I saw that later
So just shared it
What she says?
Private
Like I know what that mean. I saw the nigga walk to the door like the nigga walked out slow motion.
He walked to the hallway man slow.
I'm like what's up that he just got back?
He was like this.
Yo we sorry.
Fuck him on the up.
He walked through like Michael Maxx on the slow motion.
He saw that shit right?
Nigga look through the cabinet man slow.
Suit of fan. Stupid ass park. right look through the cabinet man slow
Stupid ass part niggas. I'm uh, you think Joe would do a head-ass proposal like that. He'll go barks. Well
Nigga know what are y'all niggas talking about? Cory was like, nigga, I don't know he wouldn't do that.
And it was crazy.
And I'm like, you know she's gonna hear this when they're there.
You fucked up the trip.
Them kids wouldn't even, first of all.
That's what Cory said.
That's literally what Cory said.
Let me tell you something about these kids.
He's like, what the fuck are these kids?
And this is my own brain.
Oh, the girls in that one.
But I could tell that these kids didn't grow up
with a dad in the fucking.
Yo, hey.
All right.
You motherfucker.
These little, hey, yo, hey, this trip
made me think of nine more good reasons
how a deadbeat is born.
Oh, you.
more good reasons how a deadbeat is born. So we sit down at the dinner table. This means something to me and her. Like this is like a we here with the kids, whatever
you want to eat. These little demon ass kids. They sit down, don't wait for nobody. They just eat, grab the,
we don't say a prayer. I don't think we said a prayer once. Well, me and the Taurus
nigga, we said a prayer. Me and my man, me and I ain't prayed a little bit, but had
to be on edge during the prayer.
I'm not laughing.
I'm not laughing.
I'm not laughing.
That nigga would have been like, yo, thank God for you, but bitch, I think I fucked you up right I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. And he probably like, what the fuck is going on? So for the rest of the trip, anything this nigga had to say
during the dinner, I'm like, yo, don't start, yo.
Yo, yo, yo, chill, feel, just let us eat, yo.
Anyway, no, soon come, soon come, soon come.
It gotta be a surprise.
Once you get to year six and seven,
you can't surprise them no more.
Yeah, they know your tricks.
Ain't no surprise.
There's a pressure on my man.
Because it's like they wait.
It's like, yo, yeah, nigga. It's about time. It's a pressure on my man. Because it's like they wait.
It's like, yeah, nigga.
It's about time.
It's about what's up.
And then anything major, they start thinking,
all right, now it's about to happen.
That's what I'm saying.
Now it's about to happen.
I can't believe I got my shit off.
That shit was some fucking sleight of hand.
And how'd you do it?
Which of your propose?
Banked on hangry.
It was a family dinner at a Colombian spot in Flushing.
Queens, yeah.
Queen Jackson Heights, Jackson Heights.
Got it.
Yeah.
I got lucky that she was so angry
that she was blinded to the obscene situation
that was unfolding.
So I had to invite, she wanted her best friend there,
I wanted my best friend there, it's a family dinner.
I had to figure out how to make that make sense
because we weren't doing dinner on a Tuesday
with her best friends and my best friends.
But she was so angry that she was just mad at me.
But what was the excuse for them being there?
Oh, they're obscene.
She had to, the one friend had to come get something
that she left at our house, like a screw or something.
It was bullshit, pure bullshit.
And my friend was just like, oh, I happened to stop by.
And they're like, oh, do you want to come to dinner with it?
Like, pure bullshit. Got you pure bullshit.
Anytime this motherfucker expecting a proposal,
every fucking David Yermann commercial in the world. Come on,
David Yermann fucking David bright.
David's bridle. No, I won't.
I wasn't even looking for David.
I want no parts of that.
Oh, they got them bringing them around and they shake them tits in the door seat.
Oh, birthday shit.
You want your birthday?
Oh, shit.
You want to get your birthday off there?
You got to do right.
You want peace?
You got to do right, boy.
You can't have everything straight.
So just because I'm here with the fellas and I'm so happy to be with y'all.
I bet you are.
I'll give y'all an update and then we can move on.
We'll find a topic.
Mark, bring up Dr. Umar and some shit.
Fucking, we've gone from,
we've gone from her saying,
why would you even ask me about who's allowed and who's not
allowed? I think that's weird. We've gone from that.
We're getting out of
nigga every other day. This motherfucker got a name. Yeah. I
don't forgot about two days ago. She said my last question, which is not, of
course, are you flying girls in for your birthday dinner?
Am I flying girls in or are girls flying in?
I'm not a pilot, so no.
Yeah, yeah, I'm not flying.
Then no, are you paying for women to come?
Girl, no.
And why would you think such a thing?
No, no.
No.
I will not. No, I'm joking. No, anybody that comes pays for their own ticket. Playing with you, Joe a thing? No, no. I will not.
Anybody that comes, pays for their own ticket.
Playing with you Joe.
He wired them the cash ticket for their own ticket.
Shake that thing.
Did you see his face though?
I didn't see his face.
Look at our man Freeze.
He going through that.
Look at him. Look at him right now.
I'm not going through the damn thing. Me. Look at him. Look at him right now.
I'm not going through the damn thing.
Me and my baby got all the understanding in the world.
We are chilling.
It's going to be a night to remember.
Shalimar.
Ba dum ba dum dum dum.
Da da da da da.
So, okay.
I asked you off the camera.
I asked you off the camera.
Now I'm in trouble.
No.
I'm sorry.
Just that quick.
Niggas don't know how this part don't work.
Yeah, that's right.
Yes, I do. Now you got to lie. Make up something. Niggas don't know how this pops. That's the worst. Yeah, that's right.
Yes, I do.
Now you got to lie, make up something.
What kind of boys are going to be here?
What are you going to do?
Nah, man.
I think the stakes should be pretty good.
What else needs our attention?
Mark, anything that's pressing on your mind?
I know this Ray J thing is something
you said you wanted to talk about.
No, that wasn't me.
I see Ray J on the board. That's all you see on the board, huh? You see another name under Ray J thing is something you said you wanted to talk about. No, that wasn't me. Oh, I see Ray J on the board. I thought, ooh, ooh, something about Ray J.
That's all you see on the board, huh?
You see another name under Ray J.
Ray J.
Yeah, I didn't put that on the board.
Oh.
Yeah, but you could introduce it.
Mr. Toppett introduced it.
I don't know.
What's the story?
Oh, Dr. Umar?
It just says Dr. Umar on the board.
I didn't put it on the board.
Yeah.
What's the story?
I think Dr. Umar is full of shit.
What happened with Dr. Umar?
I don't know if we're going to get to it. But I don't the board. Yeah, what's the story? I think Dr. Umar is full of shit. I don't know if we're gonna get to it.
But I don't believe him.
Dr. Umar went on the internet and said,
I'm broke, send me some shit.
They fucked with my Chase account.
All my money disappeared.
I don't know what he said.
Is that what he does?
No, I said, oh, I really don't know what he's talking about.
So, he didn't say he was broke.
He just said that his funds are frozen.
Yeah.
Which is different. Like, he got, he just said that his funds are frozen. Yeah. Which is different.
Like, that's different.
Like he got like someone hacked into his account, sometimes when people hack into your account,
you can't access the money.
They freeze your account.
They freeze your account.
And so right now the only way he can access money is through PayPal. All the girls are fucking, that's my man.
That's my man, nah, nah, nah.
I know that I was going to do that.
Hey, yo, my account is fucked up.
Send a cash out, man.
Nah, but he was, all jokes aside,
he was having some problems with hackers and stuff.
In fact, I think he had to contact the FBI
and some shit because people was fucking with him.
Yeah, he was having problems.
That's what I'm saying.
So it's real. And he's never asked for money before.
He's fundraised for the school before,
but he's never asked for money for himself.
So to me, which is different, right?
And he's not spending the money for the school on himself.
He's spending it on the school and I can vouch.
I've been to the school.
I've seen the school.
I was in Wilmington, came to check out the school,
went on a tour, it's real,
and he's building something there.
And so if the brother's in a pinch,
I say send it to him.
Send him something then, eh?
Godumar, the longer you stay away from this platform,
the more great questions I come up with.
I ain't gonna hold you.
Last October when I asked you to come,
it was just gonna be a cool revisit thing.
Now, gotta ask the tough
questions I got to. What's a tough question? Where the fuck is the school?
He's been there. I've been to the school I'm telling you it's a real school. I've been to the
Frederick and Marcus Garvey Academy. I have been. It's actually a beautiful facility.
Is it open? It's not open for, they're not matriculating yet, but he's physically getting things done.
Like the HVAC thing needed to be redone.
It's hard to build a full school,
fully private, for black boys
without a lot of resources, a lot of investment.
And it costs a lot of money.
And it takes a lot of time when you're doing it
on the muscle.
He didn't open a charter school.
He didn't try and do like what some of the NBA players do
when they take a public school and put their name on it.
Like he's actually building something from the ground up.
So shout out to him.
I think it's great.
And I've donated and supported
and hope other people do too.
So the HVAC system has to get fixed now?
I think it needs to be,
I don't remember the whole situation with the HVAC,
but I know at one point,
what he's basically trying to do,
and I think he's right,
is to get the community to not just pull money,
but resources.
Like if you have an HVAC company or business, lend your services.
You can, when you're trying to build something, you can do three things, time, talent, or
treasure, right?
Either go there and volunteer, use your skills to teach, or make a donation, or do all three.
So that's the people should do. She do
Work is good
Work is not bad. I'm just likear. Shout out to the school and him.
Umar, come up here, man.
Go on, let's talk.
That'd be dope.
Let's talk.
I've gotta get to the bottom of this.
All right, let's try it a different way.
When they froze my account.
Yeah, I had my accounts frozen.
When they froze my accounts, and that's where all of my $17 was, I was broke.
Yeah, when all of it is in the same place so that they could just freeze you out, then there's no money in the shoebox.
Mama can't loan it to you.
You ain't got a hidden account somewhere
that your big mamas don't know about.
Then it's more of a situation.
But you different.
Then they just froze my account.
You're a celebrity and you.
And if they freeze your account,
then go through the proper channels to get it unfrozen
in the least amount of time that it would take.
Well that's what he's doing.
Yeah, he wasn't like that.
He said they just took it, they said it's indefinite.
They do it silently.
They told him it's indefinite.
Here's the thing, when you make a life
in service of the people versus a celebrity life
or a rich life, it's different.
So, like Malcolm X died with almost no money in his pocket.
Dr. King died, he made $50,000 last year,
which was a lot of money in 1968, gave it all away.
A lot of times when you're a grassroots activist, organizer, teacher, you're not going to have
cash the way a celebrity is.
I think it's interesting in this day because some of us are in the public eye, and so we
get treated like we're rich and famous.
And you might be visible, but you still are doing the sacrifice to the people, so you
ain't got the same amount of cash.
So I don't think he's broke, but I do think that being a poor, righteous teacher means
just that. So indefinite, that means?, but I do think that like, being a poor righteous teacher means just that.
So indefinite, that means?
It could be a day, it could be a month.
I don't know, I only know what he said.
So I don't know if it's unfrozen now or not.
I just saw what the announcement he made last,
a few days ago or whatever,
and I'm hoping it's unfrozen, he's good.
What I'm saying is I feel like Dr. Umar's name, likeness,
and brand is too big to ever be put in a situation
where because his accounts
are frozen, he has to take to the internet to ask the public for help.
I think his likeness is like way greater than this action makes it seem.
And I think he knows that too.
No, I think you're right.
I think you're right that it shouldn't be that way.
I'm just saying some people read that as something dishonest.
And I'm saying I think it's more of like there's a long tradition of people who do that kind of work
who don't...
Who have the cash.
Who don't put, yeah, the cash doesn't match
the value they have to our community.
But the work, I don't have pocket watching or nothing,
but the work he does...
Can get you the cash.
Right, because he do, like I remember he posted
on his Instagram, he had a whole tour of stops that I'm I'm gonna see here and he's get he gets booked to do these
But a lot of that stuff is for like like I know I've been on panels with him
I've been in places with him where both of us did it for sure
Like we didn't do it for the money
We did it for the community so you can have 50 dates on your tour and 35 of them could be for a community center
African Center school and they might just be paying your way out there.
You know what I mean?
And now when you go to the universities,
you take the big bread, or whoever.
But when you're doing the local stuff,
a lot of the time you're doing it for the people,
and so it just doesn't make a lot of cash.
Again, or you give the cash back,
or you pour it into what you're building,
and for him that's the school.
And that's why-
So you're still not necessarily making the money yourself.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
And you gotta make that separation. Like I said, that's why he's Martin Luther King is the example. I mean, Martin Luther King, when he got his Nobel Peace Prize, they gave him a ton of cash.
What was it? A ton of cash at the time. Gave it all back to the movement. You know what I mean? So I get it. See, Martin and Malcolm made a few
decisions that... Wouldn't it went that way? You did it different. Fuck it. Malcolm talking about, no, no, no, we don't need our guns.
Let everyone come feel free and safe and the children will know that.
No.
Strap up.
Yeah, get the fucking, get the joints.
Niggas from New Orleans coming.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Shout out to them.
That's what he said. Did y'all hear about
Mandy's book tour getting canceled? No. It didn't get canceled. She canceled it. She canceled it to be clear. It didn't get
canceled. But yeah, they I don't know why. I don't get the details. But she made some great stops. She was at Uncle Bobby's.
She made some great stops, she was at Uncle Bobby's. Great tour, great book sales.
Salute.
Salute me.
Did you meet her, were you there?
No, no, I didn't go.
I was here in at home.
Got it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But we support all black authors.
Yeah, we support it, black books matter.
All of them?
Enough of them. Nigga, trying to keep that Uncle Bobby's flow coming through, nigga.
Anything in love and service to the people, man.
Shout out to Mandy and Weezy, even though the book tour is canceled because the book is too successful right now.
They'll get it back together.
You said what? I didn't get it before.
New York Times bestseller, though.
Mandy said the book is doing better than they imagined, so we're gonna dead the tour plans for now because the book is too successful.
I get that.
Sometimes when I get things that are just so successful.
Yo, all right, yo, stop, all right.
That nigga's trolling me, stop it, man.
No, no, no, in all seriousness, though.
Man, they ain't say no shit like that.
Book tours are onerous, and if your book
is doing really well, you don't want,
it's not like music tours
where you get a ton, you know what I'm saying?
Like you go to, I don't necessarily want to go
to a bookstore in Schenectady to talk to 50 people
if I'm on the bestseller list already.
Like her book is, their book is cooking right now.
It was New York Times bestseller,
the book scan numbers are high, in all seriousness,
I probably wouldn't want to go on a long book tour either,
if it's already doing well.
Since you want to be more selective.
I understand that logic that you just said.
But it just creates the position of
when I'm planning my tour,
I'm not planning for my book to be so successful.
That might be true.
Or the publisher.
Or it could just surpass expectations.
I could have planned for it to do this.
And then, oh shit, it did that.
Right. Just higher than what you expected. Expectations I could have planned for it to do this and then oh shit. It did that right
Just
Hiding what you expected and in the book business is hard to get tour dates
Like like a publisher doesn't like publishers in the last ten years don't like to give tour days
I remember my first book I got maybe 15 cities my second book and I had a bestseller they gave me four four cities
You know me I mean? So, know who I love, Mark.
Know who I love, Mark.
Him and Mel do the same shit.
Him and Mel do the same shit.
Yo, Mark is the man.
I love that dude.
Mark is the man.
You know, he don't know I'm just sitting there being a dick.
Like, he really breaking it down.
Yo, and for the books, if you go out to Rochester,
nigga. ["The Birds on the Sand"]
Show your ass off, guys.
["The Birds on the Sand"]
Ah, shout out to Mandy, Malcolm, Martin.
Is that the only thing?
Uncle Bobby.
If I sit here and laugh while you being addicted,
and later on people be like, yo, you was with it.
So I gotta always make myself appreciate.
Like I don't co-sign in his foolishness.
Do they think that we're so different on the dick tip pause in terms of playing a dickhead do they think
they're one way and you're another way I think I think the perception is and it's
accurate is that you are messy and sarcastic and mean-spirited with humor and I'm above the fray and
that is accurate. No it's not.
Wait what?
That is exactly how I see it.
Above the fray.
That is exactly how I see it.
Above the fray.
No they just don't know you yet.
That's how I see it too.
No they're gonna know I'm here.
They're gonna know.
Mark is a grade A dick.
Mark is a dick.
Just an asshole.
Someone who weaponizes his intelligence
to make people feel inferior, stupid.
Damn.
Lesser than.
Yeah.
Yeah, Neil deGrasse don't do that.
Should you be doing?
Nah, he don't.
He ain't got work with y'all, though.
Oh, shit.
Fair.
Fair.
Point to me.
Fair.
Point to me.
What else needs our attention?
Wanna talk about your guy from the Raiders? We can do it.
Christian Wilkins, man.
Former Dolphin.
Freaky for all.
Great defensive tackle.
He left the Dolphins, got a massive deal,
100 something million guaranteed money from the Raiders.
Hated to see him go.
Blew it to kiss on niggas.
Well, you know,
he injured his foot,
and that's why they waved him,
is because I guess he didn't rehab the way
that he wanted to,
but I guess some other information came out
that he at some point kissed one of his teammates
on the head in a joking manner,
and the teammate did not find that to be a joke.
Was it like jokingly sexual sexual or was it just like,
just like literally just like a joke?
Man, what way could you kiss?
After something like, you know,
I like Ian walks around like making like jokes
and jokingly hug us,
but we know he's not making a pass at us.
Ian come kiss you on your head.
What you gonna do?
Where are we in the contract season?
I need a few more questions.
My question is who did you kiss? Because if he kissed
Max Crosby, that's really, really funny.
Who's I don't get it because I don't know. He's a big Viking looking.
He's the best black player,
but from what I know of him in the past from Dolphins coverage that I've read,
like he used to like whoop on people's asses in practices. So it's a good chance
that he whooped on some poor offensive lineman and then gave him a kiss to be
even more of a dickhead. Oh, he's also had a reputation on the field. Yeah, yeah,
I've seen that he's um, it happens sometimes in football that players,
when there's like a pile on,
someone might grab some places.
Put their finger in your ass.
Yeah, several places.
Grab a little cock.
Yeah, grab a little dick.
Oh, shit.
And he's been accused of that by Josh Allen for one like
multiple times. I think it's sexual is it
if somebody just put a finger in your ass that's sexual. No, I was talking
about the grabbing like I know if it was like a like a pain thing like I'm
tackling you now trying to hurt you by so no they already down there sometimes
and he just reach in and get him a little low. I'm a him a little piece.
Oh, that's weird like on on some like dominate you prison shit?
I don't know.
I don't know.
It leaves a lot for interpretation.
But anyway he got his hundred, the remainder of his hundred something million dollar contract
chopped, waived.
Wow.
Based on the injury rehab and potentially him kissing his...
That's the sickest way I've ever heard to lose a hundred million dollars.
Yeah, but he's filed a grievance and he probably will get it.
Okay.
So he's going to probably end up playing for some other team for a dollar
and still get his 20 million from the Raiders.
Let me ask a question. Is he good enough that if he doesn't get his money
another team will... Yes, he's really good. Okay, even with the foot, even with the injury. question, is he good enough that if he doesn't get his money, another team will?
Yes, he's really good.
Yes.
Even with the interview.
Yes, he's really good.
Okay.
Yeah, he's really good.
Did you guys happen to hear R. Kelly's tribute song
to Malcolm Jamal Warner?
I heard that it existed, I didn't want to listen to it.
I wish that I had, and I have a feeling I'm going to.
Oh, we're definitely going to. Well, I am going to play it for you guys. Mark, if you want to listen I wish that I had and I have a feeling I'm going to well I am going to play for you guys Mark if you want to exit the room
or go do some of that philanthropist should be doing then now be a good time
but it's work now I'm just not gonna do it at home like at the crib and it's
confirmed that is real correct oh we don't care yeah I'm not checking to see
refer to the tag if it's real I don't speak out. So there's no way for me to have a no got it.
But I ain't gonna lie to you.
Let me go. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, Before I play it though cuz up when I first saw it R Kelly makes tributes on the Malcolm Jamal Warner again, I'm thinking this is AI. I'm thinking this is some old shit where he taught my Malcolm. I don't know
Already and they got a fucking they got a good studio in that job
Oh, nah what?
She Shit. That's it? You sure?
It sounds...
No.
Talk to him.
Ooh!
Ooh! Talk to him
Keep going though I Did you see where it's going
Not at all
Yeah, yeah I felt the loss, like we all lost something You were told to go
From this prison, I bowed my head
For a brother gone too soon, a life well spread
You left your mark man, you stood your ground
Now I'm the king Where is my home? Wait, okay. This nigga's the greatest.
No way.
Y'all know if he could put a choir right there, he would.
Y'all know if a choir could's no way that's that's he
Niggas two minutes left for this motherfucker. This is a four-minute joint
Ladies and gentlemen distinguished panel, I think it's fire. It sounds good, man. I
Don't know R Kelly, but I know Malcolm Jamal Warner. I'm pretty confident if he was asked who he wanted to sing a tribute to him after he died,
R. Kelly wouldn't be on the list.
That's all.
That's it.
I don't know Malcolm Jamal Warner.
Rest in peace.
But I do know.
But if somebody happened to tap them and say yo I'm still not fucking with this nigga. No. Freeze the fuck with it. No, don't fuck with it.
It took 16 bars, now he the R again.
Damn.
He got something 30 years, nigga.
I'll turn to the R too, nigga.
Oh shit, he got the choir.
I cut it off before the end.
At all.
This boy still got it.
I'm still not fucking with this nigga.
I'm still not fucking with this nigga.
I'm still not fucking with this nigga.
I'm still not fucking with this nigga.
I'm still not fucking with this nigga.
I'm still not fucking with this nigga.
I'm still not fucking with this nigga.
I'm still not fucking with this nigga.
I'm still not fucking with this nigga.
I'm still not fucking with this nigga.
I'm still not fucking with this nigga.
I'm still not fucking with this nigga. I'm still not fucking with this nigga. I'm still not fucking with this nigga. I'm still not fucking with this nigga. I'm still not fucking with this nigga. get off before the end.
This boy still got it.
I don't
know. I can't be. It just don't sound like our Kelly to me. I sounds like our
kind of like a go at it, but
how if it is
how the fuck you get he get a Newman into the jam? That ain't no fucking Newman, boy.
That's a whole fucking studio studio.
Y'all clearly ain't seen enough of these fucking jail dogs.
If the dirty tattooed nigga from Mississippi named
Ralph the white nigga with the funny hair
could get the CEO to quit her job and lose her life,
what you think the R is doing in there?
If y'all call that nigga the R one more time.
Can we just throw it down a little bit?
We don't want to call the nigga the Pied Piper.
How about R Kelly?
He back at the R, boy.
Bob.
Bob Gales.
Can we call the nigga Robert?
You got to the bridge on the
It's okay mom Kelly's talented yeah, then we talked about the guy on that out
We took we talked about the other day we can like he smoked this shit
We can like the artists, but not the human. Oh, please mark mark
All them nasty niggas was in the fucking,
in the cult, wildin' out.
Now you wanna come over here, nigga?
Fuck you.
Yeah, it was wild.
It was some un, what's the word?
Unsavory people in the cult.
There were, but we know they was unsavory.
And they didn't have a pen like this.
Nah, they didn't have a pen like this.
I mean, African-American body was never that talented.
Not R. Kelly talented. I don't ride for him.
No, I know. I wasn't. You didn't.
They be trying to do all that.
No, fuck that.
You tell African-American body to come over and jump in there.
There's a few more niggas that they be trying to pump up in the name of hip-hop.
I ain't with it. I ain't jacking some of that.
I read what you did.
I don't stand by it.
There's no way. It's like, yeah. I read what you did right? I don't know right? No, right
But if Africa be by the drop it now, it's not draw
See that's my boy rock rock
Good enough to deserve like the reprieve you like a Markeli however Kelly studio
deserve like the reprieve. You like R Kelly, however.
R Kelly's studio is...
They got a nice studio up in there.
God damn.
He's protecting the capacity of a studio like that.
They got the sound proof and all that shit.
Put the mattresses up.
Hey, yo, put four mattresses in the wall for me, please.
Make it six.
Mark talking all this shit.
R Kelly's little girlfriend, Dr. Dill, holding him down.
They still like, nope!
No, no, one of them. That's my baby. One of them turned though. One of them turned.
Yeah, one of them did turn. Turn 16? Oh, no. Oh, that's the line? Wow.
That's the line in the place? Testified against him. The other one, the one that's dead,
she's still mad against her family.
Fuck you, mom, stay away from us.
Don't talk to me, I am 25 now.
She is cursing her parents, move out.
24 hours, she had it like 15 years ago.
And you're right. That's what makes this shit so awful. and her parents move out. 24 hours, that should have been like 15 years ago.
And you're right.
Oh, shit.
That's what makes this shit so awful.
Oh, my God.
That's what I'm saying, R Kelly is awful.
He is.
I agree.
He is awful.
That's true.
All right.
Speaking of awful, holy shit.
Did he?
George Washington's awful.
He is, and if George Washington.
You still spendin' them fuck, what dollar you on?
Not Calvin, either, nigga.
The single.
Oh.
You are people.
You are people.
Fuckin' with George Washington.
But no, did he just filed another appeal?
Okay.
For some of us, this is the most disturbing one.
Okay, let's hear it.
And I'm gonna make a distinction between the legal appeal and the argument in the appeal.
And what I mean by that is, I think I don't believe in revoking bail from people unless
it's exigent circumstances.
The bail system is not meant to keep people locked up.
And there's too many people in this country who are locked up because they don't have
a mic, Mark.
Oh, sorry.
There are too many people in this country who are in jail
because they don't have enough money not to be in jail.
And that's a problem.
It is, agree.
Bail should not be a financial thing.
So I agree with that.
So I don't like revoking bail for those reasons.
That said, Diddy has asked to be released
on a $50 million bond.
That's his request, a $50 million bond.
Did he do that before?
Yeah, he did.
A few times.
This is another one.
And he's making some interesting arguments, though.
And one of which I agree with, one of which I don't.
OK.
One of the argument is saying, he's saying,
I'm being treated unlike anybody else in history.
They're talking about specifically him being convicted under the Mann Act.
And what his lawyer said was, and I think again, I think they're right on this, on this point,
he says, they said in the history of the statute, the Mann Act has never been applied to facts
similar to these to prosecute or incarcerate any other person.
They're saying that the motion that in the in their motion, they said that for the last 75 years,
the Mann Act, which was passed in 1910,
has been limited to cases of interstate travel
for financial gain through the business of prostitution.
In other words, they're saying,
you're using this statute for me in a way
that's never been used in history.
That's a hell of a good argument.
Whether you agree with Diddy's shit or not
in terms of his guilt or innocence,
that's a great argument.
I think Diddy's guilty, I think he's guilty
of the shit they found him not guilty for,
but I still don't want laws being used against people in unfair ways.
But the other piece is what I don't like.
The lawyer, the judge said, we can't let you out because you have a history of violence,
specifically the domestic violence.
And the judge said that you have a history of violence.
And so if we let you out, you may do harm to other people.
Here's what Diddy's lawyer said.
They acknowledged that he had
been violent with Jane in June of 2024, but said that he had been quote provoked by her quote
through her own acts of violence. So they're basically saying that yeah he beat Jane up,
but it's because she hit me first. She put hands on him. Yeah, I don't think that's a good legal argument
I don't think it's a good I don't think that's gonna persuade any judge and I think it really sends a disgusting message
Particularly we see what we saw in the video. So I don't get the logic of saying that I
Think there's a better argument. He could have made what it kind of said that during the trial to right during the trial
They were like yes, he's a piece of shit. We've seen him commit horrendous acts of violence.
We're going to tell you why.
Right.
Well, we're going to tell you what preceded that.
That's like, doesn't matter.
Yeah.
And what they also wasn't about, what makes you can't make
with a knife, it was that she pushed his head into a counter
once.
And so when you see her, when you see him,
and you say, OK, you pushed my head into a counter,
and you beat, kicked, and dragged it on a hallway,
it doesn't match. all even if I accepted
the logic and argument that that's some that some things were worthy of a
response that ain't one of them right you know so so I don't think that he's
going to get out I don't think that was gonna work I think the arguments actually
gonna hurt him but I do hate that again we're using weaponizing bail against
people I don't like that well I don't think he's getting out
just because they denied it the first two times
that they ran it through the board.
And now that the trial is done,
again, we got egg on our face,
we may feel embarrassed, we spent a lot of money.
They fired the lead prosecutor.
We only got him on, yeah, they fired Homegirl,
which that said a lot.
We only have him on prostitution,
which what are you gonna give him?
Five years, he's been in for close to one.
He already enrolled in all of the good behavior programs
that are available to people in his position.
So it's like, okay, you're denying him bail,
but what we do know is he'll be home soon.
One word, yeah.
When he tried this on July 2nd,
the prosecutor who's now fired his flip said,
the only thing exceptional about this defendant
are his wealth, his violence, and his brazenness.
So the state is making it very clear that
we want him to sit in jail,
and we think he's an asshole, pampered celebrity
who doesn't think he should follow the rules.
That's their argument.
The judge found it persuasive then.
I don't see what's different now.
If I'm on in defense, instead of saying,
hey, she hit me first I'm saying what is there for my client
to be angry about? Yeah. We won. Right. I'm very pleased with the testimony from
every Jane Doe. Right. From everybody that took the stand justice was served I'm
not gonna do anything to now jeopardize
That after I just not that that would be my angle. Yeah. Yeah, I said the same thing
What is the sentence again October? Oh, yeah, they're trying to move it up unless it's moved up
Yeah, they're trying to move it up, but we'll see I think it's gonna stay in October October's around the corner
It's not it is. It's not over now. Yeah's October now. Right, exactly. You're not wrong.
Can y'all believe it's August?
Yo, it's summer.
I can't believe that next week is August.
And that's what July had in 31 days in his motherfuckin'.
This shit still was fast.
Super fast.
Yep.
Super fast.
So we're talking about courts and trials and stuff.
Tory Lanez is going back to court on August 18th.
Oral arguments begin in his bid to overturn his sentence.
Good luck with that.
Or at least transfer him to where R. Kelly's studio is at.
I don't understand.
They got an SSL in R. Kelly's studio.
They got the big shit.
How do y'all think this will bode for Tori?
I think it may help because he does have some politicians
and stuff riding for him now.
So, and they have people that are like petitioning
the governor and these are actual lawmakers.
So I think having them on your side kind of helps.
Man, let those petitions be working though for me.
No, no, I'm talking about,
I'm not talking about the petitions.
I'm talking about people that are actually speaking out on his side.
There are a lot more noises, a lot more noise about the Tory situation.
I think it might help a little bit.
Yeah, I think it might help.
He may not get out that day, but I think, you know.
I think the political pool could help with clemency.
It could help with, what's the other thing you get?
Acceleration?
Pardon, thank you.
Clemency, pardon, something like that.
And I think clemency could be warranted.
I actually think he got too long of a sentence.
And again, I think he's guilty.
I just don't think he should have gotten
that long of a sentence.
But the problem is, to get a sentence overturned,
you gotta make a procedural, like there has to be issues
like, you know, was it something procedural?
Did he get an unfair trial?
Is there new evidence?
And those politicians can't really work with that
unless something shady happened in behind the scenes.
And I don't see Tory being powerful enough
to make that part happen.
But I do think if you get the right people behind you
in the right moment, you could maybe overturn
or get clemency.
And when the difference is a partner is basically saying
you're no longer considered guilty.
Clemency is you're still found guilty,
but we can make the sentence shorter.
So you still found guilty,
but now we can make it two years.
We can make it three years,
in which case it'd be time served already.
So those are the different options.
The challenge is, this was California. The governor is Gavin Newsom. Yep
Gavin Newsom is what wants to be president
The pathway to being a Democratic nominee for president is black women
Mmm, I don't see this will make you public enemy number one base making an anti-Megan the stallion
Yeah, again, and I support Megan think she's right. But I'm saying take who's right and wrong.
We just talk about pure politics.
And agenda, yeah.
Yeah, I don't see the governor of California
pardoning Tory Lane's or commuting Tory Lane's
a sentence at the expense of Megan the stallion.
It seems to be that counter to his own political interests.
Interesting.
Yeah, and that's just my.
That's a good answer.
That's just my hypothesis. I think it makes sense. That's just my hypothesis, but I think it makes sense.
That means he's right, but...
Well, I'm praying for Torrey.
Hopefully he sees some good news.
I don't know if he's seen any in a while.
So we shall see.
We'll keep up to date with that.
I meant to ask you guys off at a Malcolm Jamal conversation with R. Kelly.
Did y'all see some of the heat that Tracee Ellis Ross was facing online about how she
chose to memorialize Malcolm?
No, I didn't know what you do
She put out a bunch of pictures from their show when they were husband and wifey. He's right. Yeah, what's wrong? Okay?
It was a lot yeah, it was a lot of pictures that were
Intimate dare I say.
It was just very close.
From the show?
From the show, but it was a whole slide.
It was a whole slideshow of five, six, seven pictures
of y'all being husband and wife.
Pull it up and look at it.
I'd like your opinion on it.
I saw it.
I think she did a lot and the backlash was warranted.
She did a lot, which made me want to ask y'all. Is there a way that you shouldn't
mourn publicly?
Yes,
because I think that this falls under that all this at this. These are press
shots. Yes, I don't have a problem with shots. I don't have a problem with this.
I don't have a problem with this.
A couple of these I would have cut out.
Yeah.
The one that shows called read between the lines.
The one that has like the show title and all that,
I think is fine.
The last slide.
The magazine cover, I think is fine.
The penultimate slide, the second to last one,
I think just didn't need to happen.
And I don't think she had bad intention. The one before that with the red dress, I think it's fine.
That's fine.
The first one...
The quote on that one's a little wild. We have a great rapport. It's probably one of the best non-physical love affairs that I've ever had.
I'll say this. If someone came in from another country just looking at this slide, they would assume they were together.
And I think that's the concern people have.
And I think that is just... It's a bad time when somebody is married with kids
and die on vacation with my daughter.
My wife is over there, has to break the news
to my other daughter that I'm no longer,
like now ain't the time for your little TV show shots.
I've never really been a fan of the whole,
I gotta post our pictures together.
I hate that.
Like, I hate that. You can just put the whole, I gotta post our pictures together. I hate that. I hate that.
You can just put the picture up
and say whatever you gotta say.
You know.
But it's like you're attaching to it
to make it like, hey look,
I knew them more than you.
It's not about that right now.
We don't give a fuck about that.
It's not about you right now.
And I love Tracee Ellis Ross.
I absolutely love Tracee Ellis Ross.
But she could have posted all the pictures
of Malcolm Jamal Warner without her involved.
She could have just posted a headshot, boss.
Like just a picture of him.
Like you don't have to do the me and him.
How do you even hear the story that happened, right?
Because the next day after we recorded,
the news came out about his daughter swimming with him
and now they saved her.
Like the story got worse the more we heard.
How do you hear this and be like,
and hit send on all of these pictures of y'all too?
I just don't see it.
I think if you have a platonic-
I wouldn't do it.
I wouldn't do it.
I think if you have a platonic,
and maybe her publicity seems,
I don't know who did it,
but I would say if you have a platonic relationship
with somebody, you're not thinking that way.
Like I don't think she had ill intent,
but I think it was just a bad choice.
I think if you have a platonic relationship with somebody, you should not thinking that way. Like I don't think she had ill intent, but I think it was just a bad choice. I think if you have a platonic relationship with somebody,
you should be thinking that way.
I also do think, by the way,
that it depends on her relationship with him
and his husband and his family.
Because if they have a super great relationship
and maybe have joked about some of these pictures
and the roles they play on TV,
fuck what the internet thinks.
Nah, nah, I'm on no way.
If God forbid.
If y'all have such a great,
and I'm using your premise,
if you had the great relationship,
then that's more reason for you to not post
this whole fucking slideshow.
It ain't really about what the internet think.
I'm not getting this from the internet.
Sometimes the internet be right on shit.
This one I think they kind of hit.
Like, I think there's a sector of the internet
where it's like the mamas and the aunties
that are like, hey, this is just in bad taste.
So if, God forbid, Bill Cosby dies,
he's going to die, we're all going to die, right?
More.
But let's say Bill Cosby dies.
What? I'm just saying we're all going to die, right?
Fine, then you slide up in the temple hall of fame.
Right there.
Shit. Right. Fine. Then you slide up in the temple hall of fame. Right. Yeah.
Would it be weird to see the classic Cosby show photos
of like, you know, Rudy running the room in there
in bed together with Felicia Rashad and I'm just trying
to think of other TV husbands and wives.
It would be 100% weird if Felicia Rashad did
the same exact thing.
Yep.
And she wouldn't.
I'm just trying to think about.
I was about to say, I don't even think she would do that.
She wouldn't.
I'm trying to think about what?
I'm just talking about what other famous TV spouses
would they post pictures of them as a couple.
Like if I saw George and Weezy after Sherman Hemsley died,
how would I feel?
You know, I don't know.
Or maybe it's because they're more attractive.
We never even seen them be romantic on the Jeffersons.
Or there's reasons for that.
Well.
Yep.
I was gonna say the censorship, that's all.
I was gonna say. Sure. that's all I was gonna say.
Hey, I'm not telling nobody how to mourn.
Rest in peace Malcolm Jamal Warner,
my heart goes out to the people.
Wait, hold on, what's wrong?
No flip, nope.
You didn't know that?
Come on, stop.
Oh, he just found out something in real time.
Oh, I love these moments.
George Jefferson was what? George Jefferson was a dry cleaner in Queens. Jefferson, I love these moments. George Jefferson was what?
George Jefferson was a dry cleaner in Queens.
Jefferson cleaners, five locations.
You didn't know that George Jefferson was a dry cleaner?
No, he said something else.
He said George Jefferson.
I'm telling you, he was,
a lot of people didn't know this,
but he was definitely a dry cleaner.
He cleaned up the shit that was dry.
Okay.
A lot of people didn't know,
and it wasn't common knowledge
that he had those different stores,
but he was definitely out there.
Or in there.
Or in there.
Yeah.
Roll, I will say this.
Fold and Sher...
Village Voice.
Village, he was definitely...
Actually...
Fold and Sherwin Hemsley ass.
Yeah, I was about to say, or the other one.
Or the hell yeah, or that one.
Yeah, I was about to say from where. so, all right, since we got here,
I will say this, The Village Voice did a very important
piece on Sherman Hemsley when he passed away.
Sherman Hemsley was never out, so I don't want to out him.
But I will say that-
Wait, he wasn't out?
No, he was not.
Come on, Mark.
How did niggas know?
Exactly.
Because they got eyes and ears and, but I'm saying,
he never publicly said that he was gay,
but after he died, many of his paramours and others
have said that he was gay.
His paramours.
So we doing some, so we doing some Patti Labelle shit
right now?
That's why I mentioned the Village Voice
and other people have already written stories
about his sexuality.
Yeah, I would think that's why I mentioned that.
I don't know him to be gay, so let me take that back.
Other men did.
It's fucked up when you take something back
that you didn't say.
Right.
Like, I never said that.
But Sherman Hemsley was known to be, yeah,
Sherman Hemsley was known to be queer.
But he had a wife as well, right?
Did he?
I don't believe so, no.
No, he never had kids.
No.
Never had kids, never had a wife,
which is totally common for men of their era.
Okay, yeah, I understood.
James Baldwin didn't either.
Oh, there was them pictures.
There was the pictures.
Pictures?
Your hard drive is different than mine.
Sherman Hemsley don't have no Oscar de la Hoya-ish pics out there.
Not that I know of, but I never did the Google search.
I'm not taking back.
I'm not educated in this.
Just watch him.
Just watch the show.
Go watch the Jeffers's again with that eye
All them dance scenes the soul train scene when he when he made his foot when he made that album
I was just trying to keep Tracy Ellis
We got here but yeah, but yes, it's sure Ramsey was I support him anyway
Yeah, yeah, if one of y'all pass God forbid
Yes, no reason not to. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Deacon Ernest Farage.
If one of y'all pass, God forbid,
you know what I'm thinking,
we'll be in bad taste,
and I'm off to the Tracy Ellis shit.
I'm just a new scenario.
For your ex to start posting,
or some of your old work to start posting
a bunch of pictures that they have in their phone
that have never been published
of y'all just looking a little romantic.
Yes, it will be in bad taste.
Of course they're going to do it.
They're going to, you know what they do
when they don't got the pictures?
They go post conversations.
Yeah.
So I think about that a lot.
It's weird, but I have a thing.
I think about like, if my exes die,
the ones who were moderately public,
like how would I
commemorate them?
Right, and mourn them.
Do you even mention that you were with them?
No. Like if it's your ex, do you mention them. Like, do you even mention that you were with them? No.
Like, if it's your ex, do you mention like,
hey, this is my ex, you know,
I was rest in peace, we missed you, loved you,
we were this, now we're not, you know.
No, I don't think you have to.
You don't have to.
You don't have to, you're rest in peace.
Just rest in peace.
Or nothing.
I think even doing that.
I think even doing that is taking their moment
and making it about you.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, I think you're right.
Like there's no reason, you could say everything,
you could put up a beautiful rest in peace paragraph
or whatever, you still don't have to mention
the past relationship between you.
Yeah, you don't have to do that.
Or a photo, and I think, I moved away from the,
I used to be part of the people,
sometimes when somebody died,
I'd post a photo of me with them,
depending on who they were,
and now I don't even want, go my countryman Warner and other people
I didn't want to do that because I just I'm at that point now where it feels like people are doing it as a status thing
That's literally that's why yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Only the but the immediate family are only when I feel comfortable posting pictures of him media family to do whatever they want
Yeah, I'm shocked you niggas not you niggas, but I'm shocked y'all niggas out there
even got so many pictures with people.
Like for real.
Niggas is moving around, yeah.
Maybe one time before somebody died,
I was like, you know what, let me hit this little pic.
That was like from 07, I couldn't find it.
Y'all have access to these pictures,
dude, you niggas are crazy.
Oh man, Tracy, y'all just do what you want, man.
You royalty.
We love you.
You royalty, do whatever you want.
Y'all see the JLo and Mariah Beif still out there?
No.
Is that a, what is, what's?
They're dropping music on the same day.
Oh.
And it brings up, I mean, I guess you have to be
in the know about JLo and Mariah for it to matter.
If you're from the 19s.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you're from the 19s, them dropping music
on the same day is a thing. So now oniktok all the kids are fucking that little learning their history
Mariah Shansia Kehlani shit's on it all right from the snippet i heard i didn't hear the whole record
it did sound good yeah it sounded good Shansia's fire Kehlani is fire her last song didn't get
enough credit off folded that song is absolutely her Shansia Kehlani's rebrand everything she's
doing is fire but Mariah gonna go get with who she need to get with.
J-Lo on the other hand, some conversations need to be had
about her.
J-Lo did an interesting move to me
after she moved out of the hip hop space.
And when she started making global music,
I don't know how people feel about J-Lo here,
but when you go to Latin America, or you go even up
in the Middle East, J-Lo be everywhere.
You hear that music everywhere.
When I first heard J-Lo versus Mariah
in terms of a release date, I was like, that's crazy.
But J-Lo in the global market might win that battle.
In terms of sales.
Ooh, I don't know.
I can see that.
That's a hot take.
I can see that.
I can't see it.
Mariah's a lot.
In the global market, I can see that.
I'm talking about global.
Sold.
Like Mariah's last project, do?
Mariah sells Christmas time now.
True.
That counts.
But even before Christmas time, she has a lot of records sold.
She might be one of the top five top selling artists of all time.
From all the records.
All the time.
But right now?
J-Lo dropping now, I get what Mark is saying.
Yeah.
On the international market.
And right now.
I mean, 10 years ago though.
They're all going to make me go find
whatever J Lo's single is and play it against Mariah's.
It ain't about, we wouldn't be the market for it though.
That's kind of the point.
Right.
You play that record here
and Mariah's record probably 100 times better.
But we not the market that's, we talking global market.
They don't give a fuck about that record.
Right.
Her last album was in 2018
It's all this is Mariah only sold 51,000 which is I'm shocked
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but let's put numbers in perspective
There are some older acts that are dropping canceling tour struggling to sell 10,000 you for sure
So that 50 though it may sound low like let's
look up our jailo I have right has sold over two hundred and twenty million
records while jail I sold around eighty records yeah I don't even think they
belong in the same conversation yeah anybody that puts them in the same
conversation is doing some fucking I think it's the losing to put him the same
conversation last album which is this is me now right twenty four eighteen
thousand yes stop it and they viewed it number one don't I don't care don't same conversation. JLo's last album was 2024, 18,000.
Yeah, stop it. And they viewed it at number one. Don't, I don't care.
Don't worry about YB to death. She sold 18. Mariah about to, it did 50.
It's not the same world today. And Mariah's...
Listen, maybe I feel different if you play a song that speaks to what you're
saying from JLo, but the fact that we ain't heard it, y'all ain't heard it.
We don't know it.
to what you're saying from J-Lo, but the fact that we ain't heard it,
y'all ain't heard it, we don't know it.
And the funny thing is, I'm reading further,
that last J-Lo album, which goes against
what me and Mark was sitting here saying,
it says, this is me now, saw virtually
no traditional album sales outside North America.
Oh, that's interesting.
With most of its global consumption being streaming.
Was that a global music album, though?
I don't honestly remember what the last album was.
I don't know.
Again, I'm not remarketing.
Because J-Lo started doing this interesting thing
where she made some albums, like domestic albums,
US music, and then she made some.
International.
And then she did a Spanish language music,
which is different.
That's where she was really cooking people.
And then she learned Spanish.
She really did.
That was the crazy part. Yeah, because on No Man Makes, I was really cooking people. And then she learned Spanish. Yeah. She really didn't. That was the crazy part.
Yeah, because on No Man's Eye makes,
I was like, ooh, that's some interesting Spanish.
But yeah, but she got busy with the Spanish by the end.
Be one more can of that.
Shout out to whoever taught J.Lo Spanish.
We love you J.Lo, I do.
And she loves J.Lo.
Oh yeah, she definitely does.
It ain't hard to get it, nevermind.
Yo, can I ask y'all something?
I want to know if something is racist,
because my answer's always yes.
So I want to get a different gauge.
There is an ad campaign that came out for American Eagle.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
Whatever you about to say is racist.
Joe, can you play it?
Yes, I can play it. But if you said that you want to buy the jeans, I'm not going to stop you.
But as it were clear, this is not me telling you to buy American Eagle jeans.
Sidney Sweeney, Hasbro Kings.
You see what I did there, right?
Jeans are passed down from parents to offspring.
Sidney Sweeney got no ass.
She got a nice, she got that ass the white dudes like.
My jeans are blue.
Sidney Sweeney, Asgard Kings.
What's racist about this?
Her.
Okay, I get it.
Well, she had a magical moment a couple years ago,
so I mean, that's possible.
It's possible.
But I didn't hear the racism in this.
I don't know anything about who this person is.
So I don't know Sidney Sweeney.
She's an actress, she was in Euphoria
and has had a bunch of other roles since.
She was in Euphoria.
White Lotus.
Tracks.
More racist shit.
Yeah.
But so obviously people are saying
that this promotes eugenics or the idea of superior genes.
White people, you know, there's the Hitler,
Hitlerian, you know, philosophy,
that Aryans were superior, that blind hair,
blue eyes were superior traits.
She's literally sitting there with blind hair,
blue eyes, and mentions her eyes, her body,
and she's saying, I have great genes.
And she's talking about genes being passed down
and mentioning the eyes.
So she's playing-
While selling genes.
While selling genes, and she's playing on the-
Okay, okay.
Genes, you know what I mean?
What was the dude from-
That nigga's a d- The Marvels that stretched?
That's one of them.
Mr. Fantastic?
That's a Mr. Fantastic.
So here's the issue for me.
I got sent this with the question, is this racist?
So I was already watching it with that question in my mind.
So my question is always to people,
if I just showed it to y'all, some of y'all on during
the break, do you have any reaction to this
without saying why I thought that?
So like Joe, when you saw it,
did you ever thought on it immediately?
Yeah.
And what was your thought?
She ain't gonna know I asked.
Okay, Joe had two thoughts.
She got a call board.
She didn't have no ass,
but that's that ass that the white dudes be like,
it look like a nice Utah ass.
Little eye hole ass.
My second thought, I don't know who this lady is.
Third, without her doing this ad,
I feel away about American Eagle,
Aero Pastel, who's the other one, Urban Outfitters.
There's another one, there's another one.
Damn, what's that fucking, huh?
And I'm like, girl, that way, have a coffee.
Anyway, I saw a dog
The dude that came up with some of these stores and how he was on racist bullshit
Also, if you know enough about marketing, you know that there are these dog whistles in
marketing
whereas
Yeah, this could take on the personality of maybe somebody behind the scenes. You don't know so all sounds racist to me. I
personality of maybe somebody behind the scenes that you don't know.
So, all sounds racist to me.
I think the most generous read I could give it
is they definitely were playing with the jeans
versus the jeans double entendre.
Right.
And they're saying she has superior jeans
because she's attractive and because she has this stuff.
Were they trying to pass on Nazism?
Maybe not.
I think that might be the story.
If she would've said blonde hair, blue eyes,
I would be totally on board with it.
But they showed her with the blonde hair and mentioned the blue eyes.
She has blonde hair.
I mean.
And they picked her for the ads.
See what I'm saying?
Like, if you're going to, if someone were doing that, they would want us to be having
this conversation.
They want to get plausible deniability.
If you say blonde hair, blue eyes, it's too obvious.
It's over the top.
So you got to do one, if it's true.
If it's not true, then this was just a really irresponsible ad. And you know, because we're having this conversation.
If I'm selling jeans, I don't want people asking if it's Nazi or not.
Yes, you do.
Nobody believes that American Eagle has the best jeans.
Nobody believes that.
No, yes, you do.
We're helping him out right now.
Leo, I always go back to H&M, Coolest Monkey in the Jungle shirt.
And everybody said, how could you all put that out?
We went crazy talking about that.
Outrage marketing works on us.
That's a really good point.
I don't think black people buy it, man.
No, no, but it makes white people.
It makes us talk about it.
We react and we get on cameras and do all of this.
We're boycotting and they're racist, racist, racist.
We bring attention to it where other people might even miss it.
And then the Fox News viewers
who hate our outrage buy two of those shirts.
That's possible.
And so I could see the argument for, again, I don't.
On one hand, I like the fact
that we are more conscious of the dog whistles.
On the other hand, I'm kind of tired
of people trying to find
the race angle and everything.
Race angle and everything.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm in the middle.
As you get older, you see things.
And when Joe said that,
yo, I'm starting to see things,
I went and said, oh shit,
he brought it to my attention.
It's like the shit where they have the new content thing
that they have all the dancing people in the video
when they say, your eyes may play tricks on you.
Like, let's test your vision.
So when I say that to say when he brought it up
and I start to pay attention now,
I start to see a couple of things,
but I'm also tired of people looking for racism
in every little thing.
It's like, okay, so is everything going to be racist?
Are we really that much divided?
We came far, are we really that much divided in the world?
You know what I mean?
Then on top of that, if you feel that way,
then petitions and all that stuff we're signing
and trying to speak to the local government
may not work because we outnumber tremendously anyway.
So then now what's the solution?
Where are we when it comes to that?
If you understand what I'm saying, Ma.
For me, it's about like,
what's the impact of this particular thing?
Got it.
I have another question.
Yeah. Once you're done with your talk.
So for me it's like,
how do we at least have the consciousness
that if they're going to put these ads up,
we have the critical media literacy
that's strong enough that when it comes up,
we can talk to our children about that.
Because for me, it's,
I'm not outraged.
It's just, I don't want another group of,
for example, black girls
to grow up looking at that image,
or black boys.
Thinking they're less than.
Got it.
Thinking that they're less than or thinking
that superior genes means looking like her.
Even if that, let's say it's not the intent of the creators.
I have no idea what's in their brain.
But that's still a potential consequence.
And so for me, that's the question.
So I'm less worried about writing petitions,
although I see why people do that.
Mark is tricky,
because I feel like sometimes you do the work
for these people.
Like, and I told you that with the fucking CNN shit,
and this is one of those examples again.
Like, this is the most I will talk about American Eagle
for the next three years.
Right.
They're not marketing.
Not just you, but a lot of us out there who are out there going.
This audience ain't ever going to have a a 20 minute talk about American Eagle.
I agree with what they're doing.
I agree with you about what they're doing,
but they also not doing it for us.
Right.
They doing it to tell the people that know
what they're doing, that this is how we own it.
See, I disagree there.
I think they are doing it to get free advertising from us.
Yeah, I hear that.
I really think that's what a lot of,
I think somebody sits behind there and say,
yo, we play it just this way
and we know we can piss them off, it'll go.
I also wonder if that- What's the last American,
what's this, American Eagle?
American Eagle. What's the last American Eagle
ad any of us even seen?
Let alone talked about.
Haven't seen one in years.
That's my point again.
So you think they actually knew what they were doing?
Yes.
I thought it was one of those, we don't got no black years. That's my point again. So you think they actually knew what they were doing? Yes.
I thought it was one of those,
we don't got no black people in the room,
this is a blind spot kind of moment.
No, no, I think it's done with the day.
Vox had a question.
I wonder if there's going to be any other ads,
I'm trying to look on their IG
to see if they have any non-white folks.
It looks like they have some people
of some level of ethnicity on their page,
but I wonder if they will play into the same thing like,
oh, I have good jeans, I have curly hair, or I have good jeans, I have brown eyes.
That would be great.
And if I were them right now, and I were operating in good faith,
and we just fucked up, then I'd be on the phone right now
to the curliest, darkest models in the world.
And if they do that, I'll come in here and give every apology to American Eagle.
I didn't know that. I wasn't familiar with your game.
I would right away go get Alondra.
That's real shit.
That's real shit.
I don't apologize.
I mean, hold up, don't fix their business for them for free.
Fuck them niggas.
I hear that too.
I'm telling them who to go get.
Take a movie.
Right.
But thank you for that.
Yeah.
We do that a lot up here.
We correct a lot of things up here.
Yeah, I know.
And I'm down to do it.
I think you're the only one that really,
I catch onto it a lot. I see the after effects, but know, and I'm down to do it. I think you're the only one that really, I catch onto it a lot.
I see the after effects, but do you ever?
You can't call me a nigga and then me tell you
which tone to use to make it more palatable.
Like, no, man, no.
I'm sorry I'm doing it again.
I'll come back to you.
Sorry, hey.
It must feel good to have a strong voice.
And I mean that.
A lot of things that you've said up here before, and that's why sometimes when we talk, we
like, man, this thing, I have to have an insider on some of these situations.
We see people change things, and I don't like the word I use, the phrase, in real time,
you know, after we talk about it.
Listen, niggas like white ass, man.
That too.
Niggas like white ass.
Saha, I'm waiting for his album.
He fucking threw up the,
threw up the half court shot to Yes Jules.
Y'all see that?
I just know that's who he is.
I see.
Uh, yo Saha.
Is this your hard response?
Saha, Jay-E-Lek, it's a few of y'all.
If y'all really wanna be there with the mission,
you gotta give up that milk.
You can't, what I did.
Hey, sorry.
Hey, my cousin Walter wouldn't do it.
No, cousin Walter wouldn't do it.
Y'all know how cousin Walter,
cousin Walter with none of that.
At all.
Sorry, sorry.
Yo, Jess, somebody tweeted,
women don't like the good guys
and the guys that open the car door and shiver
or whatever and then Jess Jules said said if I met one of those guys I would
love to have a chance with him with him to be in my do I give him the chance
every day he goes I go retweet it so much you've been around him already a lot
nigga why every time I get fly with this makeup. And then she said.
I didn't see nothing after that.
She was like, yes, but we were working back then.
Something like that.
Aw man, I'm done.
We were just working back then.
Go ahead and praise White Ass, White Ass is nice.
It is nice.
Just White Ass.
Just not all of it.
What else is important?
What else is important? Let's see Clarissa Shields.
I want to go see her. You go first. Well, Pap is my brother and I love him. I do too.
Shout out to Pap. I'm rolling with the people that say this look like it's her first boyfriend.
I'm sorry. I'm rolling. That shit with the
Papoose tattoo right underneath the titty where it ain't really. And then you've
got the titty fighting underneath so you pull the titty so we can see the fact
that is nuts dog. But I love Papoose so and I support black love. Shout out to her
on her fight. She whipped ass. She whipped ass. Didn't get the knockout which I
wanted to see but she got she got busy yeah sure he was
running for sure she got busy yeah good fight that girlfriend make it tough to
co-parent I'll tell you that one that's what I can say let me get it off done
for a minute if it was me and my new girl got the Joe button tattoo under the
titty it was like yeah playing the baby then right after that we have another baby that another bit my co-parenting situation. It's the best fighter in the world would yeah, it would be tough
It would be you don't shout the bad boost. That's that's my
In the public eye it kind of looked like you went in the breakup, too
Yeah, it make'll make it tough.
And then we go into the fight and my baby mom just there right on the other
side of the stand it up too. I'm not touching this topic. Yeah, please.
I'm out of here. Thank you. Hey, and see, hey, hold up. You got it.
All right. Who's ready to hear a Fantastic Four review?
I am, I am.
I did get around, because we talked about last pod,
I did get around to go see Fantastic Four and.
It was an apology.
Apology?
Yes, you see I wasn't rushing to go see it.
Which I didn't do.
I don't expect it to be good.
I said Marvel's peaked, which I still believe they have. It wasn't terrible.
Did you like the movie?
I did like the movie.
I did like it.
Was it good?
I'm not going to say like, oh my god, it's amazing.
Rush out to go see it.
I liked the movie.
It been out a week.
How you didn't rush to see it?
Because I watched the bootleg stream.
I didn't rush to go see it.
No, you didn't go to the movie, did you?
No.
And you waited like four days?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Usually, me?
Or was it his first day? My nigga, I go on the movie did you? And you waited like four days? Yeah. Yeah, real Marvel. Me?
Marvel has first day.
I go on the Thursday to go watch this shit in the theater
the day before it even drops on the normal.
Got it.
So for me this is not rushing, that's all.
Got it.
But nah, the movie was surprisingly good.
I thought I was kind of over Marvel.
This does set me up to look forward to Doomsday,
Avengers which is next December.
And Galactus gonna kill all you niggas.
They, they, I, I.
Hey, hey, I ain't see it yet.
I got nine tickets to go see it tonight,
but I saw a picture of Galactus,
with fuckin' Mr. Reed,
spun around like, stretching that nigga like,
Just like this, right?
Mm.
This little stretch.
This little string cheese is out there,
this motherfuckin'. Yeah, yeah, exactly, like, what's This little stretch trick you can do.
Yeah, yeah exactly, like what's the cheese shit?
The polio string cheese.
Yo, he fucking, I'm going to see this.
I already, I can't wait till the next part.
Why would Mr. Reed step to Galactus like that?
That nigga's like, what is this little trick you can do?
I'm going to stretch you out.
I love seeing it too, man.
Galactus is a trick.
But it was all right though. Again, I'm not mad at it. I'm gonna see it too then. Good luck. But it was all right though.
Again, I'm not mad at it.
That's all I got.
I don't want to spoil anything,
but it does set up for what's next.
You've been saying that for some years.
What?
Oh, this is, okay, it sets up for what's next.
Well, yeah, and then it had to abandon
the whole fucking multiverse shit.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, because of the DeMajor, right?
They were setting up, and then they just went,
they never finished.
Whoopsie.
That white ass again.
That white ass.
That white ass.
White ass.
I wanted to ask about John DeMajor last time.
I forgot the topic, but he was like,
oh, we closed out on the topic.
I still didn't see Magazine Dreams. Amazing.
I didn't see it.
Hmm.
Do you think that, oh, I think it was about, who had an issue with a white lady recently?
Everybody.
Most people.
Yeah.
Come on, man, come on.
Somebody recently had an issue, we were talking about it.
I need more than that.
If we playing heads up, I need more.
Someone had an issue with a white lady. Yeah, come on, come on. I need more than that. If we playing heads up, I need more.
Someone had an issue with the white man.
Come on, come on.
The time running out.
The time running out.
Somebody had an issue.
All right, skip it, skip it.
No, don't skip it.
Keep going.
Who you talking about, Flip?
Oh, okay, okay.
Shannon Sharp, how the situation with Shannon Sharp played out, right?
I wanted to ask last time, do you think that there's any hopes for Jonathan Mayer to be What are you talking about, please? Oh, okay, okay. Shannon Sharp, how the situation with Shannon Sharp played out, right?
Mm-hmm.
Right?
I wanted to ask last time,
do you think that there's any hopes
for Jonathan Majors to overcome that?
Meaning that, Mark,
because you make a face and I'm about to get at you.
Not about your content.
I just, my brain went somewhere else.
Can you help me a little bit?
Because Mel's not here.
Meaning that Shannon Sharp and the young lady
came up to an agreement where they
didn't acknowledge, they acknowledged it was consensual. They acknowledged the
relationship was consensual. Yeah the relationship was consensual that's what I
mean and then we said that that was opening the door back for him to work at
ESPN. Potentially yeah. So do you think that with the situation with Jonathan
Majors do you think that there's anything? Oh I think he's back in the game. Oh you think he's back in the game.
I think they both were affected the same way, like with Shannon Sharp.
Before Shorty's allegations and everything,
you were possibly looking at a $100 million deal.
Right. He was.
Right, right.
I don't think you're looking
at a $100 million deal today.
So even if you get back to ESPN,
it's not at the level that you were about to get before.
I think the same thing applies with Jonathan Majors,
where you are about to go with Disney,
and as far as that goes, it's not the same now.
You might get your back,
but now it's gonna be a little different.
Disney said that the Villains now are stronger than King.
So stupid shit somebody said.
Yeah, they botched a lot of that.
I'm interested in seeing what happens next.
Next coming to ZDMAC.
Some good news out there for you music fans, R&B fans in particular, the 25th anniversary
of Mama's Gun is this fall, Erykah Badu.
Isn't that crazy?
25th anniversary.
That's sick.
And she just announced a new tour.
So she's going to...
She's touring with Elle, isn't she?
Yeah, so this is like, that tour is kind of ending and now she's launching a new Mama's
Gun tour. I think she's launching a new Mamas Gun Tour.
I think she's just performing that album.
Great.
So she's coming to our area.
She's going to be in Brooklyn.
And get your tickets now.
I bought mine yesterday, and it was like limited seats left,
even a second market.
I thought you would have known Erica.
No, you know, there's one person I've never met.
What?
I didn't know.
We're like one degree separation in a million ways,
but never met her.
But I bought seats.
But I'm just saying, it's limited seats, but she's traveling all around million ways, but never met her. But I bought seats, but I'm just saying it's limited seats,
but she's traveling all around the country
from now through December.
So it's dope.
And again, like you, I'm like 25th anniversary, it's crazy.
I'm seeing that.
Yeah, it's worth it.
I'm definitely going to see that.
It's at Brooklyn and-
King's Theater.
King's Theater.
Oh, I'm not going to see that.
That's why I added that.
I tried to tell you.
I'm not going to see that.
I thought it was pretty interesting.
King's Theater's nice. That's why I added that. I tried to tell you. I'm not going to say that. I thought it was pretty interesting.
King's Theatre is nice.
I will catch the Erika Badu show at another stop.
She'll be in Atlantic City if you want to go down there.
You'll pop out there anyway.
I'll do that before I do fucking, they both trash off shit.
I was just kidding.
I'll do Atlantic City, at least you can make a fucking drive out of it.
That's what I'm saying, it's at least an adventure.
Wait, hold up. What theatre is in Atlantic City? It's you could make a fucking drive out of it. That's what I'm saying. It's at least an adventure, yeah. Nigga, wait, hold up.
What theater is in Atlantic City?
It's in...
Probably at the Bugata or something.
And that's better than Kingston in there?
No, Atlantic City is the one.
They got the shit at Hard Rock.
It's the one where everybody perform at.
It's at Hard Rock.
Have you been to Kingston before?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's where she's at.
Hard Rock Loft, that's the one.
Hard Rock Loft ain't bad.
No, it's not.
I wanted to go see Kevin Hart down there.
I feel like that's how Joe Scott there, 242.
That's all, but it's nice.
But it's deep in Brooklyn, yo. Yeah, it's definitely deep in Brooklyn. It's deep I was gonna see Kevin Hart down and just got there to for to it's nice, but his deep in Brooklyn is definitely even
it's deep in people, parking the bag. They got a
you'll park it. Yeah, but I'm not sitting in. I'm not being chauffeur to
that.
The tour with Alchemist is interesting, so they have an album coming out and
that's where you go here
before it gets released right. That's fire. That's pretty interesting. Did you love the first single?
No. Me either and I wanted to. It was just cool. Yeah, it was cool. Yeah, I was
actually disappointed because Eric has such a great ear. He usually puts out
nothing but he especially as a first single. I was a little surprised at this one.
I mean it's just because it was the same sample that he has a classic move before.
Right. So for me it's like, yeah, but I'm sure the album. Well, a cool G rap. Right. But the album is
gonna be fire. I have no doubt. Eric ain't put out a bad album in her life and I don't think she's like, eh. But I'm sure the album. Cool G rap. Right. But the album is going to be fire, I have no doubt.
Erica ain't put out a bad album in her life
and I don't think she's going to start now.
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Yeah.
Anything else in music need us?
No.
I don't think so.
Anything else in pop culture need us?
No.
I think we need a sleeper.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Let me just check.
Let me just look at my phone, no.
So all them notes is critiques on us, niggas? Yeah. Yeah. Let me just check. Let me just look at my phone, though. So all them notes is critiques on us, niggas?
Yeah.
No, but what happened was I never made a new topic list.
So this is from the part that I'm just...
Oh, you just added.
Who's adding to your list?
Okay.
Last time you came with notes and critiques on us.
I do want to hit the round of applause for Steve Stout getting mogul of the year from Variety.
Steve, big deal. Really big deal. So a lot of success this year with a big extra plug.
Let's see here. The T-app y'all covered. Taylor Rooks wedding y'all covered. Kind of.
You can maybe give us more thoughts on the Patreon.
Kind of.
You can maybe give us more thoughts on the Patreon. Taylor Rooks.
Broke a lot of hearts, man.
Yeah, a lot of group chats was on fire that day.
The internet was on fire.
He was crushed.
It was like, wait, what?
I can't believe that, well, I can't believe it,
nevermind, nevermind.
I guess because I saw Taylor move up here
and kind of ingratiate herself in the New York scene and just be
Dedicated to the work. Yeah, like she came up here from Chicago
Whatever and was dedicated to the work and things started happening for a rather fast
So maybe I missed when she turned into such a sex symbol for everyone. Yeah
But happen it happened. It happened fast. It happened. Congratulations
to Taylor and her husband. I absolutely love the no phone rule at a wedding. I love Stay
Low and Build. She's just popping out. Yeah, I love that. I'm with the internet though.
We need to know if Joy Taylor was at the wedding. She was. All right, good. Saw the pictures. That's Seh Quan up there.
Uh-huh.
Seh Quan going.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
All right, man.
Hey, old Pedro.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
That nigga will run back and forth.
All right.
What else?
I don't have nothing else in these, Art.
This is old. This, we good. We good, yeah. I guess it is sleeper time. Mark All right. What else? I don't have nothing else in these, Artin. This is a whole list.
We good.
We good, yeah.
I guess it is sleeper time.
Mark was right.
No, Amber-El.
Amber-El, Food Network.
Amber-El, he said she lost, she took her own life.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace to Amber-El.
Food legend.
All right, that's it, man.
I'm done.
Come on, let's get to it.
Let's get to some, how am I feeling? Am I feeling on some R&B shit? I'm on some bird, I'm done. Come on, let's get to it. Let's get to some, how am I feeling?
Am I feeling on some R&B shit?
I'm on some bird, I'm on some bird shit.
I ain't gonna hold y'all.
I'm on some bird shit.
Sorry, sorry.
Gotta happen like that.
["Can't Be Cut"]
Mm, mm, mm.
Hey.
We got Ken in this motherfucker.
Let's go, Ken.
Tell that bitch that I get even.
I don't get mad.
I got too much designer.
I can't kick it and don't kick back.
Swear you niggas act like bitches with your bitch ass.
And I be cheating first.
I ain't got time to get no lick back.
I be on that done hoolie with my rich friends,
trying to see if I'm going to get this nub before this back in
Soon as shit ain't adding up. I'm subtracting
And it's still fuck you niggas with a passion
They can't even eat a pussy don't be lasting Niggas really don't have money they be actin'
He was used to fuckin' with the average
Then he ran into a total pack
I love this part, I ain't gon' hold this
Hey, I'm a nigga first bad bitch
If I buy a stow he gotta match it
Fuck this, just let me have it
Used to fucking bitches every actin'
Ken the man
I'm the nigga first bad bitch
Bitches watch my every move like a PI
Hollin' bout they big but they tiny XTi
All in Mexico they callin' me
Miha, my life really a movie
I ain't talkin' CGI
I don't need a nigga shit
I just want a nigga shit
If a nigga waste my time, he gotta spend a lil' bit
Hey, a nigga flashin' money made me cringe a lil' bit
I don't care how much you got, it's you gon' send a lil' bit
I told him, hi, my name is Ken, and I'm so in love with him
Nigga, A.M.E.M. so good, coulda tatted him on my neck
Pussy got his ass trippin' like the n***a missed a step
A cleaner macho probably think I was the help
He was used to fuckin' with an average
And he ran into a total pack
Used to fuckin' bitches that ain't had shit
I'm the n***a first bad bitch
If I buy the stoker, you gotta match it
Fuck that, just let me have it
Used to fuckin' bitches that be askin'
I'm that nigga first bad bitch
Brand new old music man, Kenderman
Record is called
Where is she from? I don't fuckin' know
Sally's from here
I don't know where she from.
Every record is called First.
In your phone and available on DSPs.
Write this very second and shout out to Ken Da Man.
She got some joints on there.
So if you're into all that bird shit like me, check it out.
Ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka.
Oh man, that's a hilarious joke.
I'm going, we were talking about albums that we love.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's happening?
That's a mistake.
Sorry.
Even though I ain't mad at that.
I'm never mad at that record.
You just called yourself a bird, but.
Yeah, I see what you was doing.
We were talking about albums that are still great.
I'm still on this Step Brothers four and a half.
So this record is called Unrated Version,
features 8 Ball and MJG.
Oh, the legend.
Try not to rap on my plug.
He keep it one thousand like half of a ton.
He never trip, I no longer take trips.
Yeah, he something like Tripp, he come back every month.
Yeah, step in my path if you want.
I don't fist fight with my ratchet, it's packing a punch.
I ain't that tall, but I bet if I stand on my money right now I can actually dunk
Boy, you a pussy, it's prolly genetic
I hope you ain't panting shit down to your son
I called my wife and I told her as soon as I make it back home I'ma have her for lunch
All my pockets might look like the Clumps, Hercules
This that dope? Yes, I know
If I drop a record, I serve the fiend
Tryna stick clear to serpentines
Having my way like it's Burger King Clearly my mama ain't teeping my virgin
B's Cause nobody's fucking with me, that's on bill
I ain't teach about condoms either If I reach the yard, I'ma be squeezed
Believe me, yeah, we overheated Like fevers just peaked at the mom of the
reading It's the reason why I don't get even
Cause I know that I'ma just take it too far To be preachers and momma screaming
Yeah, these sad, started with a three-five Or should I say a eight-five?
Then I had to defrag Then I tried to re-tie
Then I heard the streets dry Tryna be like my uncle now
Told me keep it peak Just like Pimp Type, damn right
Hip-hop is a house that's on fire and I'm runnin' in
To say very individual I'm the gorilla who against a hundred men
Pimp type, Pimp J, gee I mean I be coming in
In out of these verses, in without no rehearses, look what we done done again
Give me a pen, I write it then jump in the booth and spit nothing but fire
Burn this bitch down, call me some shit that just might leave a tear in your eye
Straight out the mound, talk about how I'm living on music
The rest of my life Don't need no crown
I'ma shoot this bitch up and then pass it back to Pimp Type
Give it to me baby, Rick James
25 like the Tesla nigga
School out, can't Tesla nigga
No hoe, can't stress a nigga
Never ever jumped off the porch
Matter fact, I do a rope down
Every dog gotta have a stage
Come around, gotta go round
Mama bless me with inner strength I can meditate, then levitate
Get bored with this shit, take a break, dust it off, and still be great
Indestructible, individual, street poetry that give you visuals
We need an A-Bot and MJG, down trip to Stardito Festival
Take your vitamins and eat your vegetables, say your prayers, try to be confessional
Keep a pistol on me, we're inseparable, ceramic blade on me undetected
Treat the vocal booth like you're professional, my hardcore you on thin ice
Teach you niggas how to keep resilience, make a hundred G's off of bent brides
Suppressor on a 15 sound like it's sneeze, resim type
Too clipped trip, better know I keep them stitched like we having shrimp rice
Never buy into the hype, you feeding your babies, my nigga you winning in life
You never had to go build shit brick by brick
Then you shouldn't be giving advice
Niggas ain't step in the kitchen until I was finished
Now they tryna get him a slight
Claiming they got my back, and we speaking facts
I don't trust them with a knife
Seen it before, the nigga that hurt you the most
Always a nigga you know
Been giving niggas a cheat sheet to the streets
They still never stick to the code
Sit here and walk, probably ain't never gonna end
Ain't no structure to it Be from way back when if that's your man's might feel forced into it
No wonder I think we're stuck in ruin nigga been out here fighting for so damn long. I don't know what the fuck they doing
Yeah, bro, I know people think like I'm doing this, but this shit's amazing.
It's good to hear 8 Ball MJG on something too.
Yeah.
Always.
This shit is absolute fire, but again, Shouts to the Brothers, Shouts to Memphis, that's
an unrated version.
Don Tripp, Starlito, 8 Ball MJG off of the deluxe Step Brothers
Four and a Half. That was hard. I am gonna go to Buffalo and play something off this
Summertime Butch 2. This is Benny the Butcher 77 Club. He can't talk money to a nigga who broke game rich money
In a trap with my stick out I ain't going back to the big house
Frontin' like you on but y'all were just asking for discounts
300 in a day, wait, that's actually a miscount
My lawyer told me it's a half a million by his count
You know that's real shit I don't gotta check my bitch cause I tame
mine It's time to go and I just tap my wrist like a damecom in a pocket throwing spirals
You know this game, you put out something hot and they won't like you
Bugging shots, you going viral, push the culinary in the muller hand
I played the game right, with stash houses and rubber bands
One hand wash the other hand, this year we gon' settle it
As veterans, we know that nothing come before presidents
Muscle don't be the intelligence intelligence I fought when the school was irrelevant, wrong
one to bet against I gave my hood drugs like I had a degree in
medicine Spinning digits on glitter
When the last time you heard a nigga spit it as realer
Got dope boy trending on Twitter I made this shit look good again I made this shit look good again
Buck 20 in the trackhawk, look at this shit wrap up
Pick my niece up, she point at my piece and say what that cost
Your money slow enough, I guess the streets got you blackbawd
Cause every plug you know sabotage with a hacksaw
But how I'm anti-Semitic was only handed y'all credit
Immigrants built foundations, these standards that I commended
If I'm wrong I stand corrected, not divorced but
Me and my Jewish lawyers still toast over glasses
The man is shephard, my right hand man rich
But my big brother buried, went to my OG's funeral in All White and Mary
Me and Hitboy got a classic, same thing for me and, I made millions just kickin' it like Adam Venetary, Bush it come at nigga, they wonder
how I did it, I'm hearing whispers from critics, but the numbers never lie and neither do analytics,
fuck all the naysayers, they say it's crazy that even my bitch make more than a WNBA player,
ah, let's go That's 77 Club
Betty the Butcher off his summertime butch 2 which is a really dope project
The first couple songs didn't sound like they were mixed so at first it was hard for me to get into but once you get
Past that it's a banging project
Go check it out
Since I've been repping this Freddie Gibbs, Yeah, put your money where your mouth is.
That's it.
Pause.
I'm going with Insalata from Alfredo II.
Let's go.
Crazy.
Insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata,
insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata,
insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, insalata, It's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot
It's a lot of cold nights, other things in this bitch
Water whipping on some cane in this bitch
Robbing women, hitting slang in this bitch
It's a lot, it's a lot of cold tears
Hard times in this bitch
Murder can't stay out my mind in this bitch
Ain't no dust, you don't decide in this bitch
Waking up in cold sweats, I'm soaking wet
And got this stunner good and mad for this shit You ever had to work a gold, ain't got the stomach good mind for this shit
You ever had to work a gold line, see your homie mob standing by for this shit
It's a lot of, it's a lot of job, a lot of dirt guns in this bitch
It's all fun and games till the nigga need to bail out and ain't got the funds in this bitch
Fuck ass nigga, only come around me, make it down on your duck ass nigga
Ass who the fuck I trust bitch, I trust me, I can never trust that nigga
Pumping in another crib and if they catch me slippin at least I never fuck man nigga
Ass who the fuck I trust bitch I trust me I can never trust that nigga
Get the switches, got the bitches mixin up the baby dirty enough dishes
Customary or vituary, fit your ass inside a homicide ditch
Suck me in the dock with 26ers, fuck a phone or videos of bitches
Ass who the fuck I trust bitch I trust me
Never never trust these bitches
Help me get away from this God forsaken place
I'm in, you should run away
If you ain't really ready for the way I live
It makes my heart break when I see
Girls who's done with angels
Yeah I'm still grateful
And I would never ever wanna trade it
It's a lot, it's a lot of niggas
Got a lot of love to take It's a lot, it's a lot of niggas got a lot of love to take
It's a lot, it's a lot of bitches but I wanna see my fame
Come and get away from this godforsaken place
I'm in no flight of pain and drive to go the opposite way of fame
Shit is scary, obituary, put your ass inside a homicide edition
Dippin' in the dark of 2016, mixin' up the femur, dirty up the dishes
It's a lot of, it's a lot of stab wounds
Scar stitches on my body
Niggas wanna take the spirit out my body
Took it here but I ain't snitchin' on nobody
Fuck ass nigga, I done whippin' across the map
And hit a nigga right across the couple time zones
Diary confessions of a killer
I scan faces with my eyes closed
Feel like niggas never really met a plug
All I'm asking every five loads Diary confessions of a killer I scan faces with my eyes closed Feel like niggas never really met a plug All I'm asking every Pablo Died reconfection's of a killer
I see dead faces with my eyes closed It's a lot of fuck niggas called slagging
on the gang Steady ducking calls over nigga chains
On the grand power, knock a nigga name It's a lot of, it's a lot of, said it's a
lot of niggas fighting Mercies wanted me before I ran up
They gon' have to murder me I reminisce on what the shit done done to me
A lot of white shit, yellow paint dreams When you're like a nightmare, you can't dream
So instead of running, tryna chase dreams I was making sure to save clean
It's a lot of niggas on the state team Give a white shit, yellow tape dreams
Tie a nigga up, cause I don't chase dreams I was making sure to save clean
It's a lot
Help me get away from this God forsaken place I'm in
You should run away if you ain't really ready for the way I live
It makes my heart break when I see gangsters turn to angels
Yeah I'm still grateful and I would never ever wanna trade it
It's a lot, it's a lot of niggas I would rather let it take
It's a lot, it's a lot of bitches but I wanna see my babies
Help me get away from this God forsaken place I'm in no flat out, baby driver To go the opposite way, baby
It's a little weird. Nah, we done.
That's Encelada, Freddie Gibbs, Alchemist, Anderson Paak.
I love that shit. I had to let the whole outro run.
That's one of the ones.
That's one of the ones on the album right here.
Yeah, got to let them out to the ride.
That's one of them.
Tell you that album is something else, man.
I love it, I love it.
I'm just glad I got a couple great albums this year.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm so grateful for the last thing you won.
Last year was so bad,
because you know usually I do my favorite.
I don't do that best shit,
that's subjective to people.
I do my favorite, I do the 20.
I had a hard time trying to come up with 10.
I didn't even put a list out last year.
I was like, you know what, fuck it.
G and X, maybe two other joints.
At least I got some music.
Yeah.
It's the music.
And we still got the rest of the year to go, so.
Yeah, we're only halfway through,
a little more than halfway through,
so there's some good stuff.
Especially that fourth quarter,
I'm expecting some good stuff.
I'm sure.
Yeah.
Mark, is it all right if I close this out
with some Smokey Robinson?
Or is he on the list?
He hasn't been found guilty yet. He's innocent until proven guilty.
Okay.
You playing something off that Gazm's?
From all 17 cases.
Oh, what you playing off that Gazm's, yo?
I need to be inside you or whatever.
Oh, it got to be.
I fit in there.
I fit in there.
That's the one.
No, no.
Y'all played Anderson Park, so I'm going back to Anderson and Smokey.
Come on, man.
All right, all right.
This was a joint. Innocent until proven guilty. We got a few more months.
Yeah.
Because Smokey did everything that they said he did.
Oh yeah, and he caught a new case last week.
Oh yeah, no, no, and next week.
And next week. They coming. It's coming.
But for now, here we go.
It's easy yet to walk away.
Yo, hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to
you.
Ego!
Remember when we first met?
We were having so much fun, so now how could we both forget?
Keep us in your prayers, Lord knows we need to be there until the next time we bid you
adieu.
Farewell, adios, Sariva Durchi, I still a beast to our voir,
so long goodbye, our simple head nod will suffice.
It go.
Remember life is a series of moments and moments pass.
So let's make this one last as if it's all we.
Hey.
It go. Hey! Here we go!
Yo, you can't help it, yo. You can't help it y'all
Bring your wings out
Slap your wings
I just had a baby cut bitches off they was acting hella shady
Bitch is weird
Man for my life for my money don't want my savings
No way they acting I should get a bitch an agent
I should get these hoes a agent
I just bought a Porsche, trust God
Three story house, went and got it on some boy stuff
Just went and sexed and I spent up on some more stuff
All this Chanel, wanna fuck they an' endorse us
Fuck they an' endorse us
You stand up in your bird shit
I don't give a fuck
I love that bird shit
Alright, I can't knock it
You stand up in your bird shit
Honestly, I ain't got the You stand up for your bird shit
I'm ending this y'all, I promise
Guilty pleasure
Jesus shit
Let's go kids
Treat him like my son built the ass He be jailed
Nigga I got questions
Me and my bitches don't trust
Me and my bitches say fuck you
Nigga I got questions
Me and my bitches don't look
Me and my bitches say fuck you
It's at least
Nigga I got questions
This ain't Four Slaps on there
It's at least Four Slaps on there
Ken Da Man got some shit on there
Y'all hold it down.
I don't know what anybody is doing for the rest of the week.
Keep us in your prayers like I already said.
Until the next time, hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast
as much as we have enjoyed delivering it to you.
Peace, love, health, wealth, and prosperity.
We want to thank God for getting us here safely
and hopefully he brings us back here.
Same time, same place.
To next time.
Mm.
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