The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 852 | "Who’s Gonna Save Superman?"
Episode Date: August 16, 2025The latest episode from the JBP kicks off with Ice giving a recap of Chris Brown’s concert at MetLife Stadium (17:25) before turning to new music with Cardi B’s latest single ‘Imaginary Playerz�...�� (26:55) as well as a new album from Chance the Rapper ‘STAR LINE’ (35:56). More from Drake’s lawsuit with UMG is revealed which includes a response from Lucian Grainge (48:09), Marc Lamont Hill addresses the internet’s backlash from the previous episode (1:10:37), and the room reacts to the Minnesota Vikings adding a pair of male cheerleaders (1:22:49). Also, The Hollywood Reporter releases their list of the most powerful players in podcasting with Joe & the JBP checking in at No. 4 (1:31:43), Lil Yachty is under fire for his use of George Floyd’s name in a new song (1:35:55), a Jussie Smollett Documentary is coming to Netflix (2:13:08), Sha’Carri Richardson’s bodycam footage of her arrest has been released (2:27:30), and much more. Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden Sleeper Picks: Ice | Ryan Blades - “Right Palm Itching” Parks | Roc Marciano & DJ Premier - “RocMarkable” Ish | Sasha Keable - “heartbeat” Melyssa | JID (feat. Ty Dolla $ign & 6LACK) - “Wholeheartedly” Emanny | Lihtz (feat. Fridayy & Meek Mill) - “Crash Out RMX” Marc | Chance the Rapper (feat. Jamila Woods) - “No More Old Men”
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He ain't gonna be dolo.
Oh, not, no, he's not gonna be dolo.
Not at nighttime.
Your boy Flip will be right there with him.
Flip the J-Gong.
Come on, we're fine, son.
What up, y'all?
What's Bob?
Shit, what up?
How you got doing?
Yo, you're sneaky.
No, you hit the button.
Yeah?
Yeah.
This nigger just hit the button on you.
Please do not change the channel.
You are tuned into the right place.
Joe is not here right now, but we are here to turn up and take over the wonderful.
Can you please turn your ring off?
But Joe's not here.
I know you ain't do no country queen shit.
What do you mean?
You got the salkanese on with Nike socks?
What's the other?
Yo, I got some salkany socks for you in the house.
I don't know.
I just got a 12-packed, I got you.
Shout out the salkenies.
I mean, these were given to me.
I wasn't familiar with their game, but, you know,
let's not highlight any negative thing about the guy sitting in the chair.
I got some talks for you.
You rocking a star shirt, too.
Yeah, you look at, what's that?
You got a, what's that?
You got a, oh, flip the network.
moved over there right now.
I'm looking very brandy.
You're looking like a billboard right now.
Nah, I piqued what happened?
Because flip the network,
you don't got your shows picked up by stars.
That's what it is.
Oh, you got your shit picked up?
You ain't split me?
You ain't hit me?
Oh, shit.
Put you on.
Your man, Fifth put you on.
Oh, shit, it's a queen's thing.
Put you on.
I'm ignorant, though.
Like, if I get a network deal,
y'all don't see you back here.
I'm not going to come and play it on me, right?
I'm a probably to everybody face, yeah.
I'm a traitor.
Word.
I can see your brothers.
I can see you all that too.
The way they was talking up here.
That nigga bragged about the 70 grand.
Who was comparing like she's just her?
The way y'all niggas was laughing about y'all don't have the same claws.
Nah, I got smoke with all you niggas, man.
But anyway.
I don't know that.
I was talking about me.
I love you guys.
How y'all doing?
Y'all good?
Good, man.
Great.
Glad to be here.
How was your week?
Great week.
I hit that breezy bowl.
I'll tell you about it, though.
I'll tell you about it.
I tell you when we get there.
You know, I ain't going to lie.
I think everybody I ever known
I've ever known
And my 49 years was at the Chris Breeze
Everybody
Yeah
One of the nights
If you ain't made the first night
You made the second one
Worried
We'll talk about it though
What about you eat?
Oh I ain't do nothing
I chill
I had a nice relaxed week
Why you ain't go to Breezy?
I couldn't make it
You could have made it
Wow
One of the nights you could have made it
I couldn't make it
Man why you make it
You're gonna stop this Breezy
Yo
No that no listen
When we talk
about that?
Oh, all right, yeah.
I'm taking on my shit.
He's down.
No, I'm down.
I'm with it now.
You can't move, really.
You saw how he just walked in the seat.
Sensation.
You saw he walked in that nigga dance.
No, he can't dance no more.
No.
That shit, I just tuck it in there.
Oh, shit.
You was tippy toe on like this to the chair, boy.
Like you.
Like me?
Yeah.
You fucked your Achilles up to?
What's up to?
Um, I don't know.
Nothing.
Just shit.
You got a date tonight.
I swear God, I don't.
We can always tell, you got your little
It shows.
You got your little Chips Highway Patrol glasses on.
You got a date that.
You got your new shoes on, you know what I mean?
Little pythons.
Oh, yeah, the toes, fresh.
They are so not.
And them in your first date jeans.
She got the first date jeans on.
I know, I need to turn.
You know, the one that goes all the way to, let me see.
No, this is the one who walked down the stairs
and they could be waiting for you,
walk down the stairs.
So you didn't do nothing this week.
You was in the crib by the bookshelf.
That's exactly where I was.
I was like a bookshelf.
Just ran errands.
My life was boring this week.
It was a lot of work.
Is Daisy okay?
She's safe?
She's fine.
She's somewhere around here.
She's here?
Yeah.
Oh, who I haven't seen in a while.
And we're here at least, you know, she's alive if she here.
What's up, Parks?
I'm chilling, man.
I feel good, man.
What did you did?
I didn't do shit this week.
My wife is away, so I'm chilling.
Oh, man.
You cut your curls.
It's summer, man.
It's hot.
Yeah.
Stop hating on them, boy.
I like his curls.
Yeah, of course, because you can't grow up.
Don't I compliment your curl all the time?
You do.
Wait, wait.
What are you talking about?
I like his curls.
When you pass 49, you can say stuff like that.
What else you like?
Do you like his legs, his thighs?
Is he a freak?
Too far.
Paul, let's turn a real quick, Paul.
You're ready?
Let's go, man.
Let's get it.
No, hold on.
What you do, nigga?
Don't try to skip over yourself.
Oh, I love it.
Yes.
Did you select this?
Yes, of course.
You now tuned into the JVVee.
Flip
Is your next tattoo
Mel
E
Piggity
Yes sir
Kiss me
Out of the
This is my shit too
This is my shit
Yeah
Swing swing
Turn the volume up, you hit me
Let's go man
You wear them shoes
And I wear that dress
Oh!
Kiss me
Hey!
This is what I leave me.
This is what I'm just in the world.
I got it.
It's the truth.
It wasn't.
Look at him.
He and his back.
Yeah.
I do.
But what in the Z-100 is happening right now?
What the fuck?
So kiss world.
Oh shit.
Oh, shit.
My bad.
My bad.
Yeah.
We got you.
Ah, you said it came back with some John Mayer.
Nah, no, we got our own stuff, boy.
Niggas is turning off right now.
What is the .
I might read the comments for the first time.
This is an appropriation, I think.
Yeah, a little bit.
I need to see what they're saying right now.
Parks, you didn't play the one with Supercat though.
You're right.
I did.
I didn't.
25 years old.
Hey, my mama God bless.
My mama, God bless this up.
Sing man, I just want to fly.
I see you in.
This nigga Joe is throwing the computer ass right now.
What the fuck is this?
Joe going to like this.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
You can tell he, you can tell he not used to the man.
Look, he's just talking all over the wreck.
Go ahead, boy.
This shit need to be talked over.
Woo.
I wish you would suffer.
I'm not bad, my friend.
Oh my God.
When he's up his playing this, I was like,
who did that, that's serious heart?
Is this a wrestling?
If you do not want to see me again,
I would understand.
The first time we heard was fucking boxing.
Oh, I feel good.
You don't know about this.
You meet love.
The angry boy is into insane.
Because you know, I've seen you the pain.
You know you're down.
You're done.
Look!
The giant music!
You weren't too long.
Look my name, Po!
This thing is something stupid, yeah?
You can't be as hell.
Oh, look.
Cut my life into pieces.
This is my last resort.
Oh, my.
All right, here we go.
Come up there.
Don't give a buck.
If I cut on you, I'm bringing it.
You are next in into a JCP.
This is my last resort.
Show will kill us, but I deal with it next week.
Okay.
Okay, hold on now.
All right, hold on now.
Hold on now.
One, two, three,
get it!
All right, now I want to break some.
Hello!
Oh, no!
Look at Bell, yeah.
Her wife's not coming out.
Hey, yo, that niggas got hella-cucci.
Look where his mind goes.
You're like, it's old.
He's the one of his figure, yeah, that's old.
You know what the niggins got on this home?
No.
Kirkland was going crazy.
For self-sure
You know, I'm out
The dirty world
Hello
Hello
Hello
Hello
Hello
Hello
Hello
Hello
Hello
Hello
Hello
Hello
Hello
We're not out.
It's a dangerous.
You are we are now.
Entertainers.
I'm the stupid and contagious.
You know what you are now.
Entertainers.
Oh, that's right.
That was good.
That was good.
Can we get some drops and ride up applause more?
Oh, you're absolutely right.
Can we get you all right?
I know you got caught up in the box.
A white so much.
Yeah, I did, yeah.
There we go, there we go.
That's crazy.
Mm-hmm.
What episode is this, bro?
This is 852.
We gotta do you.
Oh, Paulus.
And Mel.
Mel and Domani.
O&E.
O&E.
Oh, and E.
Hey, I don't even got it.
Oh, and fuck y'all.
Y'all.
Y'all.
Big party.
Let's go.
Oh, man.
Welcome to episode 852 of the Joe Bunn podcast.
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Today, let's just have a smooth man.
Because I'm about to fry you up, but you're right.
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Round of applause for my man, Imani, the building.
The main man with the master plan,
he makes sure everything is above 20 grand, man.
My man, library.
The doctor, the doctor of Lovenomics.
The Lovenomics doctor, boy.
He do not play.
But so far you can go.
He's not always there when you call.
but he is always there when you call and he's always on time my man I thought we were getting
shant to you right face my man freeze that's a love you know how you doing you're good
oh good thanks Elmira's finest my man parks man right of the floor for Parks Lee
we got poem here we got Corey here he's in the back and this man um I forgot my man
name Julian boo that's my man too he's tall too that's my mad ball too that's my man
That's my man.
That's what did it for you?
You got to acknowledge it.
Yo, that's what did it for you?
You like tall niggas?
You know, do you guys?
You said he did it for you.
You said, that's my man.
You got, you got to go real far when it comes to that.
No, that's not, my God.
Man, welcome, man.
I'm happy to see you guys, man.
What's up, man?
I know we talked about what we did this weekend,
but I'm just happy to see you guys.
Same, same.
Can we send a congratulations?
Shout out to my brother.
To our boy, Ian.
Oh, we have to.
Yes.
Happy said a big congratulations.
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
Congratulations to Ian and Jules.
Welcome to the club.
Love you guys.
Bundo of Joy is here.
Baby girl.
That's right.
Another girl dad out there.
Salute.
It's over.
How do you think he feels right now?
Amazing.
Like he's on top of the world?
Amazing.
It's a different feeling.
And also that probably that his wife is a warrior and a goddess.
I concur.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And in another month he's going to be tired of shit.
Another month.
I mean, when he gets into the real routine of it.
Another month.
I mean, he has to be there to.
to help her help her out.
And where now?
Don't you talk about it?
You know, mom.
But you're still kind of in the moment.
You still engulfed in the moment.
Sometimes you can't describe the feeling of having a child.
It's undescribable.
You know, when I told Ian, when I'll congratulate him,
I was like, you know, the feeling that you're feeling right now,
I can't describe, but just know that you are responsible for this human being coming to this world.
Try to be nice.
You know what I'm saying?
But through a little pressure on it, too.
Yeah, yeah.
I did.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
You're responsible now.
for this individual and their well-being
for the rest of their lives.
Is there a difference?
I don't know.
For me, it was.
No, there isn't.
There's not a difference
when you have a boy and a girl.
I wouldn't know.
Meaning when they're born.
I wouldn't know.
It was for me.
I got girls.
My little baby boys, man.
As soon as they came out the womb.
Sit up, boy.
You shook them up like you were in your driving skit.
When princess came out, man,
it was just, oh, my daughter.
You know, so.
I'm sure.
Yeah, man.
Shout out to Ian, man.
We love you.
And juice, for sure.
Shout to Julia, we love you, man.
What's Papa, y'all?
It was good.
It was good, was good, it was good.
You didn't tell what your week was like.
At all.
At all.
How was you?
My week was...
You went to the Adirondacks or something.
Oh, yeah.
You went to go get your...
To the Army base and all over.
I went to get my...
So, yesterday I went to West Point, New York
where I was born, because, you know,
Trump and these real IDs
that had to get my birth certificate.
I lost it a long time ago.
So I went to the town to get it.
and I don't know where the fuck I was at
Excuse me
Like my daughter had to roast me
Because it said bagel
Grandma in caps and pizza
So I said oh look
Bagel Grandma's Pizza
My daughter said Daddy
It's just called Grandma's
And they sell bagels and pizza
I said no it's bagel grandma pizza
Because they had it on the left
My daughter checked me
She brake
It was
It was
Cheekin nugget for fries
I mean
I mean it was unique man
To go there to see that where I was born
I drove by the hospital, but I was born,
I was born on the Army base.
You're a little Army base.
Oh, so you're West Point flip.
Yeah, nah.
Oh, I mean?
That's like the Ivy League.
They got a nice word.
That's what I told them.
West Point is the other shit.
Yeah, that's fine.
That's what my daughter was saying.
My daughter said, I learned about West Point in my textbook
and she started to talk about generals and stuff.
I tuned out.
I turned up Drake.
So, no, but it felt good to be there with your daughter
and show her like this is where I was born and everything.
Other than that, everything else was well, man.
Everything else as well.
Just family time.
I don't believe.
that you're listening to Drake either.
I think you turned up Papa Roach and...
No, no, I listen to Queen.
A little Sabrina Carpenter or some shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I listen to Drake.
But, yeah, it's just taking your children there, man.
That's fine.
That's fine.
I feel lame, though, being born up there, y'all.
A little town like that.
Took a little cooler.
Yeah, I be talking bad shit.
Like, Queens flip high.
You come upstate too.
Yeah, but that's...
Oh.
West Point's finest.
Yeah.
West Point Flip.
Shout to West Point.
Shout to the West Point.
Shout to everybody up there, high falls and stuff like that.
But, yeah.
That's what I did.
Oh, you got your paper, right?
What paper?
For Invest Fest.
You cleared up.
I've seen your name on a flyer, so you cleared it all that up, right?
Some things have been worked out.
Some things been worked out.
Yeah, Corey made the call?
So you're officially going to be there?
Yeah, I'm going to be there.
I'm going to go.
Let's go!
Yo, Corey made the call, bro.
It's all right.
Yeah, he took care of you.
Corey did it.
Yo, Zellam.
You need that.
The 20, you're going to do 20%.
No, no doubt.
There you go.
Damn.
Got to cash him out on the 20.
That didn't seem earnest.
Nah, it's a stand-up dude, though.
He's going to sit in the 20-old.
That's crazy.
Where do you guys want to go?
Where are we going?
What's on the board?
What do you mean?
Where you want to go?
Where the rest of America went for the last, twice this week?
You didn't say to the Joe?
You check, check me.
Yeah.
I'm not.
You're talking a lot.
Yeah.
I like that.
Your ball's hanging.
Your ball's hanging.
You're your message.
I really don't.
Your dust is just drag.
I really.
Where do you want to go?
I stole his exact line knowing that you'll say that.
Wouldn't it come to me, just check me?
Yes, Father.
We only really have one place to go is Chris Brown.
That's the only place to go.
Yes.
Okay, okay.
You disagree?
Who all went to the show?
I mean, only one of us?
I wasn't missing it.
Only you?
I know Joe went, right?
Yeah, he's not here.
You went, he ain't here.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm going to make this really easy.
I don't want to hear.
nobody's name with his anymore.
Like, I'm done.
Nobody.
Like,
nobody currently.
Yeah.
Yeah, stop.
Just leave it alone.
Leave it alone.
Only two mentioned it.
No.
He is clearly in a class by himself.
So where'd you go see him?
MetLife.
MetLife.
Okay.
With night two, MetLife.
It was storming.
Pooring.
Yeah, it was.
Like, no, thunderstorm.
Yeah.
Which worked in our favor.
Why?
Because dealing with women, you run late all the time.
Ah.
So we run in.
late and I'm telling her I'm like yo it's lightning I know the rules that MetLife as long as
it's lightning they can't they got to clear everybody out any open stadiums if it's lightning
they'll stop a football game they'll stop anything for lightning sure we parked the second we
park we got the amber alert shit on the phone all MetLife guests it is now safe to return to
the vineyard oh made it miss Bryson because there was a big mix up with security on the floor like
they closed the gates down people tried to rush the gates they had about five hundred
people standing online to get your
floor wristbands.
But again, because the show was delayed,
the second doors opened,
they had him ready to go.
So we missed him.
She watched Summer.
I'm not really the biggest summer fans.
Cool. That wasn't for me.
But when he hit that stage,
he went on stage at 9.30, roughly.
Okay.
It was after midnight when we walked out.
Oh, Dave.
He did about,
between 53 and 55 records.
Holy shit.
And they said the first night it was more.
He did about between, somewhere.
I saw the set list.
He added, he made some additions.
And he could have stepped, he could have kept going on.
Oh, no.
So he do a little outfit changes and shit, right?
And he has the DJ come out and perform.
The DJ goes, hey, I'm going to play the records that he's not going to do.
So we're going to turn up here.
And he went on a whole set of records that he could have performed.
brought Tiger out
Okay
That's dope
Very dope
Very dope
Very dope
Um
He hooked up the harness
And shot up in the air
Like out of a cannon it looked like
See that
About 60, 70 feet in the air
I saw that on the line too
Literally flew around the
The nosebleeds
He was in front of the people
In the noseblees singing to them
Wow
While flipping
On the harness
Live mic
Everybody gonna get their money's worth
Oh no everybody
got their money smurf. Everybody in there got,
I don't care where you sat.
Like, we didn't sit down the entire show.
And again, it's after midnight.
And I'm like, yo, this nigga's, I saw a TikTok going around
with a girl left the, uh, she left the spot early. She was like,
yo, I got kids. This nigga won't stop singing.
Yeah, no. This girl was like, your dog.
Dog, what are we doing? You killing me. Yeah.
It's too much. Like, my girl was like, okay, I understand that now.
Easily, performance-wise,
one of the best shows I've ever been to in my life.
And you've been to a lot of shows.
I go to a lot of shows.
He go to a lot of shows.
Has this been one continuous tour?
Yes.
Yes.
When did this start?
Because it feels like he's been on tour forever.
It started overseas.
It started overseas.
Okay.
Was that breezy bowl, though?
Because he had something before this.
No.
No.
The breezy ball.
That was last year.
Wow.
I felt like that was, no.
That's what I was asking because it's why I said it seems like he's been on tour forever
because it just seems like he one connected to the other.
Like he never stopped.
No, no, no.
He tours each album.
So last year was the 1111 tour.
this one being that this is 20 years of his career
first album was 2005
we're in 25 so he's celebrating his entire career
all of the videos they played
literally walked you through the career
he jumped around with songs of course
so you know he came out to run it
and then did some current stuff and then back and forth
but all the videos was just walking you through
everything he's been through
he had a whole set where all the lights
looked like police lights and it was flashing
and of course he'd go through all of that
the fall he called it.
It was just different, bro.
I have not heard,
I didn't hear something mediocre yet.
Me either.
Everything I've heard is a 10 or better.
Every single person, man, woman, boy, girl.
Niggas was in the show hitting my phone like,
yo, you bullshit, why you not here?
I'm surprised you didn't go.
I ain't with the New Jersey shit.
I'm going to go.
I wanted to go to London.
I wanted to go to overseas,
but I'm going to somewhere like Phoenix.
I'm going somewhere.
Yeah, I'm never
I was supposed to go to this
I mean Denver I mean
I was supposed to go to day two
And it's the first time I was like
Regretted not going to a show
Any other time I missed a show
I'm like whatever
I'm seeing the videos come across the pictures
Just it looked like you needed to be there
Hey let me tell you
If I wasn't going to be out the country
I would go next week
To Connecticut again
I'm gonna try to go that
What do you think just tells the world now though
Again like you know
Because now we know that
whatever hidden thing is
was whatever hidden halo was over Chris Brown
when it came to whatever he went through
you know whatever that was preventing him
from going to the next level what does this say to them
what's the next level I don't yeah about to say
winning the awards going in the wars
you're performing he knowing the Michael Jackson
tribute if you notice he's always posting
on his stories I don't give a fuck about that
no more he keeps reminding people
hey and it was one of the videos he was playing
it was like, yo, everybody stopped answering my phone calls.
Like, I couldn't even get niggas on the phone,
let alone to try to work with folks.
The only way I made it through was my fans.
So everything he's saying is I only do this for the fans.
I understand.
I don't care about the rest of it.
That's why he was mad at the awards.
You stop even calling me.
Y'all call me, y'all get my fans hyped up,
y'all get all everybody hyped up,
and now pull a rug at the end and say, oh, never mind.
Don't call my phone.
I'm not doing this for y'all no more
I've accepted what it is
like anybody said he was supposed to be the next mic
hey he'll never get there
we already got that
but as his fans
he's giving us something
that nobody else is going to give us
and that's still an argument
no it's not argument
but you said some ill on the side though
you said
you said on the side
we need to stop having a conversation
about someone being better
than the person before them
it's literally just a torch
evolution past
at this point
James to Michael to Usher
Now to Chris
My scary story is who is he
Passing that torch to now when it comes to this level of
Creativity and already
They might not be born yet
I mean or they might be 12 years old
You know what I'm saying like they might be out here
Because his year's 13 14 years old
Dogg he is
You know how Jay Z be like
Yo only two people rested in heaven
Could be mentioning the same
You can only mention people that are dead with this kid
Not kid with this man
Like he's different bro
three hours, four hours
of just nonstop
bangers don't sit down
dance the whole entire time
being on tight ropes
being on tight ropes in the nosebleeds
it's crazy to me.
Yo fam you're not sitting on a stool
you're not sitting on a stool
you're not sitting on a stool singing
right.
Yeah that's a part.
Yo, he's flipping, jumping.
When we went to 1111 I was impressed
from what I've seen online
this shit makes 1111 like
this shit makes every other tour
I haven't missed a Chris Brown tour
since 2012.
You know what you just said?
He's celebrating 20 years and don't seem like he's slown.
Like, he seemed like he's picking up.
He's revving up.
Like, that is scary, yo.
Right.
Real scary.
You know his iTunes is loaded with 7,000 other records.
He ain't even released yet.
Chris is different, man.
I don't got no more argument about who the time.
Yeah, I just don't like here.
Like, after what I've seen and like I said, 20 years nonstop, I don't want to hear nobody.
Nobody.
I just don't want to hear anybody.
They can't.
I'm not having a conversation no more.
I'm not even, oh, that's what you think.
cool that's peace don't talk to me no more
to me it ain't even close
he might not have the
one album
that somebody has
as like the confessions or the
you know whatever the Donnell Jones joint
whatever the case may be but
even to what we was talking about
of Mike Ice was like
yo that just goes to the evolution of music
I mean the evolution of just
streaming and all the other shit you put
not a ton of songs so that you can get your bread back
whatever the case may be
If he had an album with a concise 12 songs,
first off, if he put an album out of 12 songs,
his fan's going to write.
I'm going to be the first one.
You better.
We was mad when he first said 11, 11 was going to be 11 songs.
He did.
Everybody, yo, my nigga, I hear all that.
I see what you're trying to do,
but lead that for them, we don't want that.
He's the one of the only, maybe the only artist.
This has been ever since Heartbreak on a Full Moon
that can give you 30, 40 records
and still show.
shoot 85%.
So I imagine
if he took the 30 to a hot
14. Right. No.
I'm just saying, no, he could give
you a potential confessions.
And confessions is a hard
I mean, that's not just a easy feat.
I'm just saying if somebody out here could do it, he could
do it. Well, shout out to
Breezy, shout to Chris Brown, must
see show. Yeah. If you haven't
pulling up, if you haven't gone, please go
and shout out the Breezy.
Yeah, shout out of Breezy.
Like a great show.
Let's keep it in music, man.
Cardi B.
Uh, she dropped.
Yeah.
Some motherfucking brimps that's yours.
She kept it with the ball.
She said, we were going to keep with the box.
She's like, shit I was doing in, like, 2016 type of shit.
Like, you basically don't even know the difference between vintage and our car.
Like.
Yeah.
Look, now I spit that other shit.
Pretty motherfucker shit.
Cardi B, every stone plan on.
I'm not the other bitch.
Whatever you was going to pay her, you got a double it.
Glory hole.
Bitsches don't know who they fucking with.
Yo, I'm not mad at this, yo.
She came out.
I'm not mad.
She came out.
We talked about it before.
We didn't know what she was going to sample.
Mm-hmm.
It was going to be the beat.
When I first heard the snippet, I wasn't really, I'm like,
I didn't like the snippet.
hearing a song in totality
how does this translate to the audience
her audience or to the new audience
right to the people that's buying records
I ain't nobody buying records
well I'm not buying you know I'm talking about you're saying
streaming or listening a person out how does this
translate is this a great
is this a good second single
I don't think no I don't think so
I think well
it's an interesting choice for a second single
I don't think it'll be a hit
so if that's the goal
if that was the goal with the second single
then no but I
think it's a good record, which I think she kind of needed.
I think she wanted a record out to get her shit off on.
Yeah, I don't need a hit.
I don't need a hit.
I don't need something for the clubs right now.
I need to, I got some shit to talk.
The last, however many singles from Cardi have been club records or attempts at club
records, I like the change of pace here.
Yeah, too.
Okay, so why she didn't go, I would expect as a second single for her to go like pop or,
you know, big, right?
With a pop feature or something.
Because they're connecting.
Say it again?
It's not connecting.
Yeah, I think that's what she's been trying to do.
When she popped, Bodak was street.
It was, it was, you go back to where you initially popped
because you tried all that other stuff before
and it wasn't connecting.
So, hold on.
I disagree.
A nigga looked like my twin.
Wait, you're going to look like my twin walking in.
Wait, hold on.
It's clapping up for Mark.
You're all right.
People don't know you got a little slight, you know what I mean?
Why did you?
I don't know what we're talking about.
Oh.
But why you just, why you limped on camera?
Was that limping?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, about that?
I'm in a little bit of pain.
You got a catheter, too?
No.
Yeah.
Y'all Twazis?
You okay?
I'm great.
I'm great.
Just over-training.
That's all.
I'm fine.
Oh, okay.
Some exercise stuff.
That's all.
I need to worry about.
Park?
Oh.
Oh.
You're getting a shit off, y'ammy.
She's getting a shit off, yo.
Is she?
Yo, can we just be honest, man?
What?
Here comes to me.
Okay, let's go.
It's not hate.
I don't like how she sounds like she's reading off of something in the record.
I'm not convinced by the flow.
Like, when we talked about Foxy and the people before, rappers, people who can go ahead,
even if you didn't write it, make you believe that they wrote it and got the shit.
It don't give me that feel for this.
The bars are fire.
You think that's more accent, though?
I don't want to say it's what accent, because she's,
she was able to do that with accent on other records
and she's not in the pocket of it at all.
It felt like she was catching, like, when I heard it,
I was like, I love these lyrics, I love the track,
but I literally said to myself,
it almost feel like she read.
It's how she just learned it last week
and went in and recorded it.
That's what I get from it.
It's a good, good record.
The visual is even more fire
when you attach it with the record,
but I'm not convinced by it.
And at this point, it just feel like
they're just reaching for anything to upstart
something for her before the album come out,
And I'm just like, I don't think nothing's going.
She's saying some shit.
I like you.
She's saying some fire shit.
I think she sounds in the pocket, for the most part.
You know, it's funny.
It sounds better on these figures you're going to did in my house.
You probably listen to the phone.
You probably listen to the phone.
That's a lot more diamonds and more archived, vintage cout on me.
I got more called CIA than John Poblin.
Some of his cheeks out.
Winner is minx out.
I buy grown man watches and make them take links out, yeah.
That's hard, big, that is tough, yo.
That's hard.
That first, she killing it.
The first verse.
is fire and I'm a huge Cardi fan
I just
I love you so it's the delivery
what is it for y'all?
It's the delivery and listen I'm nitpicking
I'm nitpicking just my ear
to nitpick for stuff like that
so maybe it's just just
personal thing
the truth is you're gonna nitpick
if you come from what Jay did
and what she's doing
I'm not a part of it to Jay
yeah you know I'm never
it's not about comparing to Jay
but she has the same cadence
and the same flow
she emulated that
I think it's subconsciously you're gonna
thank you
subconsciously you're going to compare it
you know what I mean
to you know to me
I think
the accent is a little, you know what I'm saying?
Like her, um, the way she enunciates, you know what I mean?
But she's saying some shit.
I like, I like her.
And I don't, I don't, you used to those accents, huh?
Hey.
Swamp and meant there.
$40 hill, boy.
What do you think Shorthy sound like they don't wear the $40?
How do you think how accent sound?
Huh?
With the $40.
Cardi don't got a $40.
I'm not saying she doesn't.
Not at all.
$4,000.
No, I said, shoddy with the $40s.
I don't want to be too critical
but like Marks
I just I'm not convinced by the delivery of it
but is it a bad record
no it's not a bad record
I think it's fire
the bars are fire
glory old bitches don't know who you fucking with
I love the whole song
I love all the lyrics
and like I said I'm listening to it in the car
and I listened to it first in this morning
when I woke up and I was like
oh I like this track but it just don't
it almost sounded like I wish she had just laid the vocals down
one more time
you got to get an accord instead of the Civic
sound better you know what I mean
I'm gonna give it another try
I'm gonna give another try before I
but all first sis listen
I'm a support her regardless
I like this shit I like that shit
I like that first time I heard it
I was like huh? Yeah no she was talking
to shit oh she's saying some shit
It's be balls up
y'hawls look cheap that shit don't cost much
I'm a start but I'll smack you
don't get star-struck
patience looking at me that Cardi
what the fuck
Stripe like Tom Brown
these bitches should calm down
quicker they lift up
the quicker they fall down.
Pause in.
Two of them must be gassing them heavy,
making them jump in the ring with the brim before they ready.
I see whole fan pages, make avatar changes.
All that old up go to new fan base.
Now you're 15 up.
You're already out of time.
I'm a legend.
They're going to hit my hills from the power lines.
That's tough.
I can hear the punch.
Yeah, you can hear the punches for sure.
I can hit a punch here.
Maybe that's it.
Maybe that's it.
And that's all I'm getting.
Yeah.
You can hear the punches.
But for the regular fan, they don't give a fuck about that.
So for them, it's like, whatever, fire bars and they love cars.
Yeah, I'm just glad to get a good song.
Some of the pronunciation is a little, you know what I mean?
That's Cardi, though.
I know.
But when it's faster, you won't hear it as much.
Fair.
You know what I mean?
Like when the bop and the bop and the bop, like you don't hear it as much.
She's talking slower now, so you hear it.
Yeah.
But how do you feel about this, M-Fizi?
Um, yeah.
Ooh.
One in ten?
Oh, shit.
I think there's, I think there's, I think.
that it's really just a cadence thing.
I don't think that we're used to hearing her cadence
like this slow.
It almost sounds like it's like below like, you know,
the 1.0, like the speed and it sounds like it's like below that.
Negative.
A little bit.
Yeah, sounds like it's a negative.
So that's, I don't know.
She's speaking.
You know what's so crazy.
When you spoke just now, right, I was, I'm maturing in real time.
I was going to be funny and say you chose the side
because offset was up here.
I was going to do that whole little thing.
But because you said, eh.
He was defending her last time, but I like that, but I want to respect you.
Listen, it's not always just a gender thing.
Sometimes it's just, the side that I think I'm choosing is the right side.
Yes, you are, man.
And it's not gender-specific.
Got it.
But, you know, like, I always got Cardi's back.
Power to the people we back to do maintenance.
This didn't exactly, like, move me.
There's nothing that there arrives behind a whole clearing a sample for her?
I don't think so.
Should we brush past that and just leave a bee?
Yes, please.
I think those who try to make something out of it,
I think that's a reach.
Got it.
I think it's an interesting story.
If Holt, I'm going to say,
if he was one that wasn't really clearing samples like that,
then yeah.
And he does.
But he clears samples.
Because he's been clearing samples.
He's clear wagging shit than this.
Yes.
And I'm not calling this whack to be clear.
I think this is dope.
I'm just said,
no, I really like this song
and I'm a huge Cardi fan.
Like I said, I just wish they had laid the vocals down one more time.
You put the, you put the ER on.
What?
Whackard?
That's my West Coast.
Real quick, is there anything else in music parks or...
There's a bunch of...
Are you all kidding me?
Wait, we just go act like Chance didn't come out today.
You know, Chance shit is...
It's amazing.
Chance is kind of back.
This is the best comeback I've heard in a long time.
No.
I'm not being funny.
This shit is fire.
He is not wrong.
You was with Chance and Denzel.
We did.
That's my line, y'all.
He brought you to be Dead Hell.
Come on, yeah.
All right, Ma.
We get it, yo.
This is my chance, too, though.
We got you, bro.
You all right?
We got it.
If I met Denzel, too, nigga, I'll beat a stupid.
I'm with you.
Hey, I'm fellow, yo.
You said, he went great.
We love the album.
What's a, Bob?
Tell us about it.
First of all, I mean, I've listened to it a few times today.
It's actually why I haven't listened to the Cardi album more.
This show right here.
This is back to the go with Vic Mensa
Who are absolutely crazy
And I know Vic about to go nuts
I stopped laughing
Damn I'm just listening to the music
I made a mistake
Not like a mortgage but more like a foster home
Supposed to be in too past but now I'm across
the globe and screaming across the phone
On a dog that just lost the phone
I'm back at the bachelor pad
Chicken scratch on the pad
I got a fix for an itch
And I'll be scratching it bad
In the kitchen flipping a script
Like a spatula at
Was packing my bags
Once I unpack I'm back in my bag
Square one ground zero
The homeless hometown hero
I was transient only in a family sense
And in the past tense
Maybe I was absent
I stopped doing acid
But I've been keeping tabs
Since the London hose with acids
And they don't my accent
No I'm not demand them
Maybe I was just accent
Now I'm in the back
I used to be called this accent
Not because they tax him
Maybe it was an accent
Listen man
I don't hear a really bad album
About loving his wife
I understand that
But at one point
At what he made a really bad album
In 2019
It was really bad
It was like his debut album
Like official album
But he had a run of classic mixtapes
That took mixtape
To a level that we haven't seen
As far as winning a Grammy
And fucking being Billboard placed
And all this shit
He was at one point
going to be the next guy in a lot of people's eyes
and disappeared and fell off the face of earth
but this album is really fucking good
it's really it's one of my favorite
it's definitely my favorite I'm not saying
it's the best for y'all jump on me
but it's absolutely my favorite
I need to listen to it more
but there's a few things I love about it
first of all it's there's some
chances of reader and he's thoughtful
and so the song titles are like really
interesting and complex it's called Starline
which is after the black star line
Marcus Garvey he got songs called
The Negro Problem
Drapetomania, which was
something used against slaves back
in the day of a psychological condition. But it's
not a nerdy album. I mean, songs
like Dunning your purse or fire.
Wayne is on here. Young
Doug is on here. The features are great.
The music. If you like the chance
that you liked when you're listening to
like... Chances and rapping coloring book.
There's coloring book moments on here,
especially in the second half of the album. He's writing a letter
to the church that is just crazy. It's called the letter.
It's amazing. There's some
regular like just club shit on there
and then there's some like conscious shit on there
it's like a good mix of stuff
the features a great jet like trying to get back on there
who else is on there um little wayne is on there
it's a great album
it's one of the albums I've been most excited about and I wasn't
to be honest I wasn't sure how I was going to feel about it
because of the last album
which I didn't hate the way everybody else did
but I didn't think it was good
I didn't think it was good but some people were like angry
I was one of those angry
I was you said you think this is one of the best albums
of this year oh it's definitely one of the best albums
it's his favorite it's my favorite for sure
But I need to hear it for a while.
I don't like to jump to, you know what I mean?
Like, I heard...
Prison of the moment type stuff.
Yeah, because I had heard gifts for a while
when I said, like, it's up there for a time.
Whereas this, I'm just hearing today,
so I don't want to say that, but it's a...
I don't see how somebody wouldn't like this album.
If you like Chance, you'll love this album.
Well, that song right there will make me definitely...
Yeah, I'm going to check it out for more for that one song.
Off of that one song.
I had no intention to play on this album.
And you ain't even let Vic Rock.
He wasn't crazy.
Vincewick.
He's one of my favorite Vicvers.
I know he's going to go nuts.
No, I fuck with him.
I know he's going to go crazy.
Did you see Chance stance on his relationship with Kanye?
No, what did he say?
Pretty much.
He hasn't spoken to him in a while, but, you know, they've separated.
He's busy.
I'm busy.
But at some point, you know, maybe there's a world where they connect or something.
That sounds like a whole lot of nothing.
Absolutely.
I don't want to be messy and I don't want no clips.
That's my way.
I'm staying out of it.
Did he get and asked a direct question?
So what's up with you and Kanye?
Oh, you know, we're...
Look, he's busy, I'm busy.
Everybody's busy.
Exactly.
Get that, nigga, man.
I wish him...
Glasses got on some bullshit.
I wish him well.
Politically correct sentences.
That's funny.
Any more music?
Juicy Jay dropped a jazz album that was...
I only listened to a couple of records off it.
It's a jazz, instrumental jazz album with...
Her name is Endaya Owens.
Did he rap on it?
There's some records with him rapping on it.
But what's the rest of it?
Jazz music.
Jazz music.
Just like instrumental only.
Finally, I've been sitting there saying, when is UCJ going to drop a jazz?
And I want to see how receptive people are to this because they gave Andre 3000 fucking shit.
Well, the difference is actually really fucking good.
It's good.
From the few songs that I heard.
He didn't like it.
The flute album was cool.
I like the flute album.
But this is actually like, these are, I don't know who the band is.
These are musicians.
Okay.
They know how to play their music.
instrument.
It's a little
different.
The wildest jabs off.
Like this is good music.
This is just the intro.
More better blues.
Shout to JuicyJ.
I haven't listened to the whole thing,
so I don't have an in-depth review, but from the
four or five songs I did hear on it,
it's dope. He's got a record with
Black Thought. That's super dope.
Please stop the violence in hip-hop.
It's a, is a,
From what I heard is very good.
And I can't believe you put out another album.
He had an album like two years ago.
I was like I said, didn't he just drop an album two weeks ago?
But that's a rap, rapping album.
This is, he's, there's not much rapping on it from what I have heard.
Gotcha.
And by the way, I actually listen to the title of EP.
It's good.
I told.
The four songs, right?
Yeah.
It's good.
You didn't say that.
I hadn't heard it yet.
And people, because you hear 4,000 sales and then people.
So what?
No, they weren't saying that it was bad music.
They were just saying that people had just off her because of.
You know, the comments.
I'm not convinced to that either, by the way.
I'm not convinced to that.
I think they did a shitty job in marketing.
I think they thought the success of the water was going to carry them.
And so they ain't necessarily put as much behind it because nobody knew.
I didn't see anything behind it.
I didn't see no interviews, nothing, no single, no video, nothing went viral.
I don't, but I don't think it's necessarily.
It might be partially a result of her attitudes and the shit that she said.
Or them trying to protect her from it happening again.
It could be that.
I don't want you to sit.
with no interviews because they're probably going to try to
trip you up. They're going to probably keep trying
to address this. We want to get this behind us.
Let's just put this shit out and let's try to
steal the conversation over here. Even though we forgive,
black people ain't going to forget.
Meaning, like, it's best to
address it. I feel like it should be addressed properly
accordingly. She addressed it wrong the first time.
She said correctly. I don't believe.
I don't believe that either. I don't believe that either.
When Doja Cat did that bullshit
and everybody was calling her out for the bullshit,
she just came with more hits and everyone fucking
forgot. Kanye took niggas slavery was a choice.
I just think
if you put out slaps
I think you did
yeah
Kanye also had about
15 years of
equity with his fans
to be able to say
some bullshit
and they'll turn the other way
Tyler's a new act
okay so what's
I'm just saying
I don't think you
I think you can get past
some saying some bullshit
if they fuck with you
and Kanye's from America
and said that
you know what I'm saying
he was born here
Kanye's mother and father
are who they are
historically
he has more context
than this girl
that's from
another country. Did I miss something? What did she say that had everybody's panties in a bunch?
I think she says something. I know that she made a reference to black people. She referred to them
as colored. Yeah. But she's also South African where that's like I understand. I get the
loss in translation and, you know, maybe people thinking that it was a misstep or, you know,
a faux pa of hers to say it. But it's just like if that's. Well, she didn't she say she, I want to
make sure I say right. I think it was her not using the word. It was about how she's self-identism.
It wasn't just that she used to work colored.
It was like, how do you call yourself?
And if I remember correctly, she wasn't identifying as black, per se.
And people thought that that was her saying, I don't fuck with blackness or black people as opposed
to her saying there are different racial categories.
I want to pull it up.
But in South America.
South Africa.
I mean, in part, South Africa, there were distinctions between and colored was one of the identifiers
in South Africa.
So if that's how she grew up and that's saying, yo, I identify as colored because for the
last 20 years or 19 years, that's how I've been described.
I don't think it's nothing wrong with that.
It's like when Mel talks about Canada and how people identify in Canada, they don't
necessarily say I'm black or I'm white.
They'll say, you're, I'm Norwegian, or I'm Jamaican.
They use a lead with ethnicity before.
You go to where your country family origins from, and that's how you identify.
It makes it.
She called herself a colored South African.
It's not that she doesn't say black, but the identity she was using the time was
colored South African.
And then it sparked a controversy.
And in South Africa, they don't.
they don't refer to people as black.
If I'm not mistaken, they don't use,
that's not the terminology.
Man, the problem is she ain't got no slaps, man.
That's all it is.
Niggers will forget all that bullshit.
Like I said, when Doja said all her stupid shit,
she came out with another water.
She came out with slaps.
I think after that, people just...
I think after that, people just didn't fuck with her.
Like, when it came to her being on stage,
there was like an award, something like,
She was a, she was, oh, hold this while I talk kind of thing.
People were like, oh, you're making so-and-so.
Hold your fucking award.
Who do you think you are?
And I was just like, okay, so she's at the point in which she can't win for losing.
Yep.
Like everything is going to be, everything she does is going to be dissected.
And people are going to highlight the negativity and see it through that lens.
Well, fine negativity, even if it's not negative, they'll make it negative.
When they hate you, you can do no right.
I agree.
And she was on that hated side for a minute.
I agree.
And like Imani said, slaps.
We've seen it with everybody.
Slaps.
Slaps fix all at them.
Slaps.
Slaps.
It's everything?
They do.
They fix most things.
A lot of shit.
I was on vacation, so I don't know the answer to this.
Did y'all talk about M.G.K.'s album last week?
Who?
Machine Gun Kelly?
Yeah.
After the intro on today's part, I guess we could.
I have to listen to it, so if you have a deep analysis, by all means.
I have a shallow analysis.
I want to know if y'all have more.
He switched up, right? He switched up and went.
Yeah.
Ravie Pop, right?
A little bit more, but I mean, it's still rapping on this.
You know what I mean?
The album's called Lost Americana.
It's worth listening to.
You know what I mean?
It's more alternative than it is, like, hip-hop.
If I'll find out, you was at Martin's Vanier.
You got some plug? You got some, you got some scratch?
Well, no, I just knew we were going to be talking about music today, and I like to prepare for it.
Hey, yo, dog.
So you might work to the MGK.
You weren't at Mark's Vineyard around Kvartian listening to MGK?
No.
What?
I'm just naming the albums that came out this week that we might have had a dialogue going.
That's all.
I know some nice ones that was up there that weekend.
I don't know.
I didn't see anybody with my wife.
I know.
You know, Tony, Tony Bennett's greatest hits.
Tony Bennett, Greatest Hits just drop?
We're good?
Salute to MGK, it might be good.
I don't know.
I haven't listened to it.
Yeah, it's worth listening to it.
That's all I'm going to say.
I ain't get no payola.
I'm happy to.
If anybody has me payola, please text me.
Email me, DM me.
Oh, man.
William Morris.
So that's in the music?
Yeah, I mean, as far as, like, major releases.
Okay.
As far as major releases, I would say.
So, yeah.
I mean, in music, I don't know if you guys,
want to tackle some of this Drake lawsuit.
It's some nasty paragraphs in there.
There really is.
Nasty.
There really is.
I don't know how to defend this anymore.
I'm not going to hold you.
Like I was with the people that was just like, well, they called him that word, and he's going scorched earth.
Do we have the actual?
Well, yeah, there's a piece here that I'm reading, certain requesting within the suit that Drake is asking for her from.
January 1, 2014, to the present, all documents and communications relating to allegations of
domestic violence, violence against women, and or other forms of violence committed by
Kendrick Lamar Duckworth. That's document request number 50. Document request number 51 is
from January 2019 to the present, all documents and communications relating to David, Isaac
Freely, aka Dave Free, and his relationship.
with Kendrick Lamar Duckworth and Kendrick Lamar Duckworth's children.
And then document requests number 52 is all documents and communications relating to the
rap field from August 1st, 2023 to the present.
These are all requests that are being made.
That's, I don't understand.
It's nasty.
It's nasty.
And I don't understand what that has to do with whether UMG was boosting, uh,
Not like us.
What I think, I think it's twofold.
One, he's trying to prove that y'all boosted lies.
Right.
Okay.
So now I'm going to prove what I said was the truth.
Okay.
So I'm looking for, I'm looking for, because again, part of what he's also trying to do,
and I think this is like the second level of his beef,
is I still want to expose dude as, because remember Joe read a message before where he was like,
I'm going to show you he's not who y'all think he is.
I think that's still part of it
I think he having two fights
I think he's fighting Kendrick still
and I think he's fighting UMG
and I think they're two separate fights
they just intertwined
It sounds like he's trying to legally
Exposed
Rap genius
Yeah
Like yo
I'm exposed you for whatever
That I heard was true
Now I'm gonna make y'all prove it's true
Hip hop is built off lies too man
Yeah
Like come on
It's too much
I don't want to think
that they're gonna even submit
that information to him.
You start playing with somebody's family and their kids
and all that. But
well
Lucian Grange
sad ass some shit to say. He had thoughts.
Yeah, he has some thoughts. That he put in a
declaration.
No.
Fuck out of here.
Fuck out of here.
It's not lengthy, but
I mean, we can get to it.
Yeah. Can you
see, like Zoom?
Yeah.
Now where your readers out, man, man, so give him your other.
Here we go.
I'm the chairman and CEO of Universal Music Group, which is indirect parent corporation of
Defended UMG Recordings, Inc.
Plaintive Arby Drake Graham claims that I was behind a scheme to devalue his brand
through the release and promotion of the Kendrick Lamar recording, not like us.
An allegation that makes no sense due to the fact that the company I run, Universal Music Group,
has invested hundreds of millions of dollars.
in Drake, including longstanding and critical financial support for his recording career,
the purchase and ownership of the bulk of his recording catalog, and the purchase of his
music publishing rights. It also makes no sense whatsoever as I run a publicly traded
multi-billion dollar, multinational corporation whose operations in over 60 countries
covering nearly 200 markets immediately report up to me.
that's in short
and pretty much he's saying
no
yeah no
he's saying this is dumb
yeah
it makes no fucking
financial or
sense period
you're reaching
yeah
yeah
you know
I don't like the way
you read yo
yeah
get your glasses
right
I don't like the way
you read
you read the last line
don't read
don't read like that again
and let me see
if you do better
don't read like that again
what's the last line
now this is a eye test
or a reading
it's a reading at this point
which one
which last line
The recording catalog
and the purchase of his music publishing rights
Read the whole shit
I'm not, nigga
you're big flip from Westmore
You read it man
Yeah
Because you can't see
That's very tiny
Yeah, look at the classes
Boy, look you about
At your home
We put on the Chloe's
What you want to do?
And you sat there right there
You sat right there
Let my man do that
I think you're going to let that happen
You're the post
I thought you're going to let it happen
I think it's going to happen
Oh wait, that sound crazy?
No, you're going to sound crazy at all here
You did just what I expected
Yeah
Oh shit
shit.
Yo.
Oh, shit.
Everybody!
Stop playing, yo.
You can't do that, man.
Stop playing, yo.
You're okay?
That's a charge.
Yo.
You do that shit.
What's up?
You was watching dead devil what's up?
Yo, you just had to get up with your first day jeans on.
She got them.
She got a tissue.
And walked around.
Yeah.
You're such a fucking cuck-ha!
That's why I didn't mean to do that.
I would never get a tissue for you, nigga.
Oh, man.
She didn't even call you about the cat for the cat.
I was just about to go to Mark for his opinion on this whole thing, but my bad is...
Yo, I'm...
Are you good?
More three!
You open, too, over there.
You should have...
You should...
You should...
You're so angry.
I got to go to class.
Next time you read, you got, I got some here.
All right.
I appreciate that.
You know, wait, hold on.
First of all, okay, do we need to have an intervention?
Yes, he's largely out.
You came on the Maypaw.
You're doing, are you okay?
Throwing shit and breaking shit.
You're all right?
The shit hurt.
And he's sitting up high now, so.
All right, my bad, y'all.
Grabbing me pulling on your mom.
Okay, all right.
All right, come on it.
All right.
Come on, let's grow up.
Holy shit.
Mark, you're all right, Mark.
Yeah, the chair's fucked up, though.
Oh, yeah.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
Oh, it's stained.
Yeah, no.
It's okay.
Oh, shit.
These couches need, like, a good once over anyways.
I mean, you...
I know.
You had navy blue bleach.
You had the...
You had your four-the-roll jeans on there.
But listen...
No, back to the subject of hand.
I think that, I think he's just fighting two fights.
I think, one, you embarrassed me nationally.
Internationally.
So I'm embarrassed back.
I'm going to get you back, right?
Try to.
I'm going to spend any expense I can to personally get you back.
And then I think he's fighting a totally separate fight with UMG.
And I think they just intersect.
And I think his goal with Universal is to get my master's.
Yeah.
I'm going to sue you to the point where our settlement going to be, my shit.
And I was looking at that might be the start of the beef because I was wondering how,
because his masters were with young money.
Right.
And Wayne sold young money, sold all of their masters to, you know,
universal for $100 million.
Gotcha.
So now it's like, oh, wait a minute, you sold my shit to them.
Like, I might have tried to buy my shit.
I could have bought my shit myself.
I could have bought my shit.
What we doing?
I'd have gave you $150 for my shit.
Let me ask you a question about Drake, because I'm trying to get into the psychology of Drake.
You said there's two fights.
This is my opinion.
I agree with your assessment.
The second fight I get, the first fight against Kendrick, do you think he's consciously doing that?
Do you think he thinks, do you think he's sitting in this house?
Like, I'm going to get him back?
Yes, nigger.
Yeah.
1,000%
What?
My nigga, you broke my spirit,
you broke my ego,
you broke my public image
that I had
in a worldwide sense.
While we act like
he also doesn't have
the fan base
to support that type of thinking,
like it's not like
the whole world is saying
you bugging out.
A lot of people think
that he's still in the right
and should be shit like that.
That is true.
So even while you have
the other people saying shit,
you can block that out
by your fans standing by you
and say, now fuck that you were right.
Keep killing.
It's just so not hip-hop.
Again, it's not.
I have no...
I don't think he cares about that.
This is past hip hop.
And it's hard for me to believe
because Drake loves hip hop.
I think he does.
Drake cares so much about legacy and image.
Then he cares more about hip-hop.
Stay right there.
Stay where you are.
You're fucking with my legacy.
You fucking with my legacy by calling me a pedophile
to the entire planet Earth.
And it's almost...
The song is so big that
niggas kind of accepted it.
The narrative...
Why not just make another song?
Because when I tried to wrap it out,
niggas stop.
the beef said, no, you lost.
That's true.
You lost, nigger.
Do people, do people, do people, do, A minor, like, yo,
you fam, to a nigger with an ego, that shit is something.
Do people remember that even in, like, if you take the J and Nause beef, right?
And after Nause dropped either, it was kind of solidified.
You, you lost.
Jay still dropped some fire bars after that, and it was just, no one cared.
Nobody heard of it.
Like, at this point, the narrative had been forced.
The narrative's already formed.
That's true.
That's true.
Jay Z dropped his most fire bars on Blueprint 2.
Correct.
But you know the difference, right?
No one cared.
You know the difference.
What?
We're talking Jay and Nas, New York.
I mean, granted, the rest of the country hurt.
Pre-internet.
Right.
True.
This was performed at the Grammys won all the awards and the Super Bowl,
and my whole argument is,
y'all artificially inflated that record to even get to that level.
But here's my problem with it.
I think that Drake is single-handedly trying to change the outlook of hip-hop.
I mean, there's certain principles that, you know, is conducted in hip hop,
meaning that when there's a battle in this record, as you say, you know,
Biggie said what he said, you know, you let it lie where you, where it lies, no one.
And you, I have to look at how you were raised in, in order to even understand what's being done.
Meaning, like, people from the hood or from the struggle, not saying Drake wasn't from that,
but you grew up different.
So you understand and you value things a little bit different.
and principles and morals,
even though it's changing now,
some people still value that.
So if you diss me, I dis you, Nick, I go my way,
I see you, we're going to hop you and flip you,
we go our way, we try to figure it out.
Drake is taking this to court and making it seem like,
which is, I guess he has enough audience to do it,
making it seem like it's cool to do so.
It makes it seem like if I say something to you,
you say something back to me,
and even if the, inflation is going to happen.
You're going to try any tactic to get your record out there.
You're going to try any tactic.
tactic to be the winner.
That's what it is.
Hold on.
What's when it looks like now for him?
Two things with that.
One, we keep saying hip hop, hip hop.
This is much bigger than hip hop.
It's a power struggle, yeah.
This is not, Drake is much bigger than hip hop.
So we compare-
But hip-hop is still the core.
But just give me a second.
Yeah. We're comparing Drake to other
beefs to artists that's never gotten to this level.
We've never seen a artist reach,
a rap artist.
Reach where Drake is at.
So I don't even like the,
trying to box this as a hip-hop thing.
My business, my brand is bigger than this at this point.
You are not affecting my hip-hop side.
You are affecting my brand.
You are affecting everything.
So, yeah, I got to defend this.
I have to clean this up.
Fuck music.
This ain't got nothing to do with music.
Like, dog, Nike is pausing on my releases right after this shit.
Like, certain shit like that that we, again, this nigger is an international.
star. You're talking about big. Big
wasn't never an international star.
Like, Fifth was big. Fifth Sue people, right?
But he's not suing people over hip-hop this record.
My problem with this is that
you started taking it to
a messy place and the mess
backfired on you. Absolutely horrible.
I know, yeah, we make the joke all the time,
but yeah, yeah, we know.
Like, Fifth sue people only.
Fifth suit people, we talk about fifth sue people. Fifth will take you
to court, but he's not suing over.
J-Rood and Sue 50
and 50
whatever 50 did at the time
to Jaru put Jaru on a pause
a permanent pause at one point
there's nothing that Jaru could do
Kelly he could have got whoever he want
but Jaru didn't go take 50 to court
But flip let me ask you
With everything that Drake potentially gets to gain
in this type of a win
none of the other people who ever had
that type of leverage
So do you prioritize hip hop in that mode
Or you do look at the bigger picture
You do prioritize his business
but where it stems from, it becomes tricky to me.
Like, if they had, like, if they made AI stuff or stuff
where to sort of add to them calling him a PDF,
then I'll say, no, you need to get sued for that.
That's what he's saying.
That's what he's saying.
But that's what he's saying.
Add in meaning that, like, I use the word AI,
meaning videos or trying to do something funny to show,
and if it was spread all over the world
and if affected his business, I understand that.
We're just talking about the rap.
A-B-S-A-I.
No.
I'm talking about, I'm talking about, you're talking about specific.
There's a difference between just a rap bar that loosely alluded really to your crew being weirdos and you amongst that.
And a difference between making some fabricated videos or documents or something.
That's what I'm saying.
Yes, thank you.
You know, I feel like Drake's thing is this is the fight that he's had before this whole Kendrick thing even started where he wanted to be in a position.
of ownership, the micro level of
I own my master's, and this is a roadblock to get
into that point. So I have to deal with it in this manner. Like there's no other
way to get to that point. And I think that, me personally, I think
that at some point he thought I'm larger than life. And my ego
is the size of the fucking aquarium. And then you come back in there
and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Chill, fam. You're an artist, nigga.
You still are artist.
We're going to give you $400 million.
You're thinking on your re-up, you might get a billion, you might get whatever.
You still are artists.
And I think at some point in time, and Joe alluded to this one time, like, you're sitting on the other side of the table.
And after a while, you still realize you're sitting on the other side of that table.
You want to be on this side now.
What is it going to take for me to get on this side?
And they're never going to let you get on that side.
You still work for me.
You are artists.
What's interesting to me in this, I don't know if anybody, you probably didn't, but watch the
Kelsey's and Taylor Swift
podcast. No, I heard it was amazing.
It was really good.
I heard it was good.
I mean, it was funny.
There were some moments where I was like,
if we tried to talk about baking bread
and liking otter pictures on Instagram,
Joe would absolutely rip our fucking faces off.
And they could do that,
which was funny.
Different cultures, I guess.
Anyway, the way that she handled getting her master's back
versus what he's doing to get his master's back
to me is very interesting.
She talked about essentially kind of winning with kindness.
like she just had like her mom and her people go talk to the people that owned her shit
I mean you haven't seen it so I mean
the approaches versus going scorched earth I'm suing everybody
she just put her head down and worked and came up with creative ways
did the previous he didn't do that
he didn't go re-record a bunch of his albums and go platinum with them again
and he didn't do none of the shit that she's been doing for the past 10 years in order to get her shit
did the previous label try to do anything
that she felt was trying to stifle her.
Yes.
I'm sure.
Because that's Drake's thing.
Like, y'all are basically lowering my value by pumping these narratives.
And now, especially if we're in negotiations, up, dog, now we talk about Shannon Sharp, the $100 million.
Then X, Y, Z happens.
Let's say that conversation was to continue with ESPN.
We all said it.
You ain't looking at the hundred no more.
Right.
We see it in sports.
It's something like that.
Yeah, sports.
We're seeing it in sports.
So, Kaminga right now.
Golda State didn't want to re-up them, allegedly.
They tried to sit them.
You know what I'm saying?
Then somebody got hurt in the playoffs.
They ain't have no choice but to play them.
He kicked ass in the playoffs, and they still not trying to really, you know what I'm saying?
So they'll sit you to diminish your value so that you can't go nowhere else and get mad bread.
You got to stay here.
I don't know.
If he would just sue in UMG and for something else,
and like it was the artist against the machine
and he's big enough to represent all the artists
that was taking advantage of by the machine
then I was happy behind him.
Because that's how it was sold.
That's how it was sold.
Then I'm like, yeah, Drake, yeah, Drake.
The fact that it's on the back of Kendrick
and a disc record, that's where it becomes a little tricky for me.
Yeah, I still buy him when it was like,
yo, he's suing Universal.
He's not necessarily sewing Kendrick.
So that was one thing.
I think that if you are demanding that they bring somebody's
fucking DNA records,
that's nasty.
I think that's a little stretch, but
again, if I'm trying to prove everything I said with the truth.
Yeah, I didn't personally go through what you got to do that.
But even in proving everything is the truth, what is it doing?
What's the angle?
That's like to get you your master's back.
Yeah, it's not going to get you your masses back.
And it's not going to get you a win in the battle.
Y'all cheating.
Y'all cheating.
How?
Because one of the things that everybody stood on the Pusher shit was
some of that Puscher was saying about him personally,
and y'all was like, look at this piece of shit, nigger.
Pusher exposed him.
So if you got your ass whipped like that before,
you think that the way I could get my lick back
is to do what pusher did to me to Kendrick.
I think...
This nigga has been embarrassed
on a worldwide level, my nigga.
Like, I don't know what that feels like
because I've never been like him.
Yeah, but we passed that.
The embarrassment is over.
It's to us.
It's over to us, nigga.
We didn't feel what he feel.
I think that nigga feels like a fucking dodo outside.
All right, so again, I wouldn't do that.
I think it's corny to bring somebody's children
and into any of that shit, I think that's whack.
I'm saying, for his perspective,
he might be like, I think he's just trying to put it.
I think, in closing for me,
I think he's just trying to prove motive.
That's what I think, too.
Yeah.
Yo, everything this nigga said was a lie.
Right.
Y'all pumped it.
I said that we're on the same label.
Everything I said is the truth
and I'm trying to prove that it was the truth
and y'all stepped on it.
I think it's a legal strategy.
It's all, that's what I think he's doing.
That's what I was saying from the beginning,
but.
I think he looks nasty.
And it makes the,
it looks nasty.
I gotta get nasty, but I gotta get nasty to...
It makes the ass whoopin look even more
biblically.
We'll never see an asswhip like this again.
It's been a great talk.
Yeah.
Yeah, we got it.
You know, my...
I try.
I see...
I love these guys.
Hey, yo, Flip.
Yes, sir.
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Thank you, Joe.
Thanks, fam.
Just appeared out of nowhere to lose.
Yeah, man.
How do fuck, Erickson just leave?
Yo, today's a weird little day.
Yeah, it is.
I'm tight.
Who's back there?
What's that?
Julian.
Julian.
Hey, y'all don't just be hating on, my man.
He is here at, like, Groundhog's Day.
No, I'm hating on your man.
I'm hating.
I'm hating.
I'm hating.
I'm hating.
I'm talking about.
He walked out.
He chucked the deuce.
I was like, oh, you want to get your food or something.
No, backpacking.
Well, but he's here a lot, so, you know what I mean?
All the time.
He's here like, and he's here on time.
He's very punctual, so he deserves a vacation.
Oh, so I'm out then.
You second.
Yeah, you second.
No, I'm second.
I'm second.
I won't be first.
No, in terms of...
One day I ever had.
No, you don't have days off.
As far as early, then you're hot.
Ice is here the earliest.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
But you've never had a day off, right?
No.
He also doesn't live in Jersey, so I mean...
You've had days off.
Kind of.
There was one, actually.
There was one at the pream studio.
Yeah.
Couple.
I think it was just one.
No.
I think it was a main...
You had something out of your way.
Yeah.
What's my name?
I did the one that's doing.
What's a dude named Charles?
Uh, no, Casey.
Oh, Casey.
Gotcha.
Shout to Casey.
Shout to Parks.
Word.
Well, thank you.
Shout to the game.
Hey, yo, don't hate.
Shout to E.
I'm hating.
Yeah.
I'm still going to hate.
Fuck that.
So what y'all want to talk about again?
Can't be serious.
I don't know.
We already got people hacking crazy when it gets a little serious.
Don't want stuff hearing glasses down.
Hmm.
I don't care.
I don't like none of that.
I want to address something because the Internet's been mad this week.
Oh, God.
About what now?
About, I think they're mad at Joe, not me.
About the collective reaction.
I think they're mostly mad at Joe, but maybe the collective reaction.
To me mentioning Al Jazeera and Gaza last week.
Oh, your colleague.
Yeah, and you people don't take a big series.
Kind of making it about y'all.
And I think it's a little unfair.
And I want to say that.
I think it's a little unfair.
I think part of it is context, you know,
because people are like, we don't talk about this stuff.
I don't come here to talk about global policy.
That's not what I came in for.
It's not what I took the job for it.
I think my presence here is helpful.
You don't want to share that money?
Night school.
Night school.
Every night.
But that's what I feel like people would be back.
Go watch my show.
I do it every night.
And now Jazeera's season starts in two.
weeks. You're going to watch me on Fridays. But I don't, it's, it's, did you just plug? Yeah, get too. Yeah, that wasn't
good. Shameless. You're good. Every Friday is good. Let them cook. But the point is like, I don't want
people to think that I'm being silenced up here. Like, I'd be trying to bring stuff up and y'all be like,
don't say that. I've never been edited. I've never been silenced. I're going to say that y'all
made me say that too. They're going to be like, you know, blink once. Right. But like,
no, I can talk about this stuff. It's, to me, this isn't the space to talk about it.
Because these things deserve in-depth analysis. They deserve 20. They deserve 20.
20 minutes or 30 minutes or 40 minutes and we can't do that up here.
That's not what the job is.
If I work for ESPN, they wouldn't expect me to do it because that's not the job.
Similarly, if I'm here, that's not the job.
Did people personally hit you up?
Yeah, some people.
Some people, it's just like when I first came here, like, why would you go there?
It's the same kind of thought process.
Same as the woman.
Oh, the lawyer at the vineyard.
You're still waiting for you to respond as to why the fuck you're here.
Right.
And it's like I'm up here to be part of a great conversation, which we are every week.
So I don't want people to feel like I feel away.
about that conversation.
What I prefer, if y'all had said, like,
sorry to hear that, rest in peace, move on,
maybe play some gap band.
Outstanding, yep.
Yeah, yes, I'm not going to bring.
But that's a blip, but the actual decision
to not talk about it in depth
or to not have a reaction in terms of analysis,
I'm cool with that, because it's a complicated topic,
and if people don't have an analysis of it,
I don't want that.
And that's the truth.
I think the truth is why we don't talk about it.
A lot of us have, well, I have a skew,
what's the word, skews, a right word?
of ignorance, ignorant view on things.
I don't want to miss speak, right?
I don't want to say anything that may become insensitive,
and a lot of times that happens.
So, and we're not really familiar with the topics
and stuff like that or what's going on.
Now, maybe we should, or me, let me speak for myself,
should read more and understand what's going on.
We all should.
It's not just you.
We all should.
And open our eyes and stuff like that.
The topics become, because we see what happens a lot
when you touch on these topics,
and if you take a stance,
we see what happens,
we see the outcome,
and I just don't want to misspeak.
I don't, me,
I can speak for myself.
I don't want to say nothing.
I don't want to just, mm-mm.
I keep myself informed,
but not enough to talk about it.
Like, I'm cool.
Because if you don't know what you're talking about
or you do like,
and this last thing I'll say on this,
Madonna did this early this week,
where she made an Instagram post
where she was kind of like,
I don't want to take sides on this,
but kind of like thoughts and prayers
and, you know, love to the babies.
And she got blasted for that,
and I was one of people that blasted the dog.
What did she?
She was talking about Gaza, you know.
Just, okay.
Yeah, but my point is, like, sometimes if you don't know anything,
you just say I'm here, basically like, I'm rooting for everybody,
that can be bad.
Yes, it can.
You know what I mean?
So, like, if you don't know enough to have an opinion on it,
we don't have to talk about it.
But people may be mad at you because they may feel that Mark you.
No, they're not mad at him.
Wait, hold on there.
Listen, you've been, I'm going to get you in a little bit about doing this Mark's here
because you checked on him about his back and then check on my man.
Listen, um, the people may say, well, Mark, why don't you teach them?
I do. Every night on night school.
YouTube.
10 p.m.
You get too much money over there.
I don't like it.
As opposed to here?
This money coming up to fucking faucets here.
How are you talking about?
You get a lot of, you know, I mean, I watch night school.
I appreciate it.
You did a lot of money over there.
I appreciate that.
That's all I'm watching, though.
What's night school you watch?
Camera Hart?
No, I'm watching his next.
Oh, shit.
I'm only watching.
Look how quiet.
Look how quiet our white counterpark gets.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
This guy has.
It's wild if nobody looked at parks.
you sit there and say, oh, that's no, but like, why, why is, it's quiet?
Why doesn't, it's, and it's, it's well versing these things.
It's not my platform.
Got it.
And again, that's not what we do here.
And it's okay.
Like, I think the worst platforms are platforms that try to do everything.
Yeah.
Oh.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's not the job.
No.
You get tired of that, right?
Just everywhere you go, you feel like you have to be the spokesperson for.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it becomes, what I mean, I was just here.
I don't you know, why don't you know about black shit more?
Because I'm in Qatar.
You know, like, what the fuck?
Like, watch me on Joe button podcast.
Watch me on nights.
And it's the same thing for all of us up here.
You know, I think we all have things that we might.
Your accent away, niggins.
Are you, are you going?
Kata.
Are you going to Gaza?
No, I fucking help it.
I can't right now.
I don't want to right now.
It's not safe.
And while I respect people who are going and doing that work,
like I said, every one of my colleagues has been killed.
Yes.
And he has young children and he has family.
That's not a choice I can make right now.
Right.
It's not.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mel.
You know, let me ask you a question.
First of all right, wait, wait, rest in peace.
No, just like you can't agree with me.
Otherwise, you're a simp and you're handering.
Oh, whoa.
Rest in peace to your fallen colleagues and stuff like that.
Yes, serious.
All just aside.
We didn't do that last time.
Rest of peace, thoughts of prayers.
And salute to their family.
I'm going to kill you on Patreon now.
Now, go ahead
Go ahead
Melissa Ford
You think you still go on Patreon?
See
After this coffee shit
You think I'm going to let you on Patreon
The fucking toy
Yeah, do it again
No, no, no
No, boss
I'm a C-O
No stop
I got two toys
You got the flappy shit
Okay, I got these
But yo
Yo, you know
I heard after I said it
That sounds crazy
In the audience
Broadcast
What did you say,
Flip?
Yes
So
Here's my issue
with you today
I don't really have...
Glad you said today.
I'm not going to hyper-focus on you.
Okay.
I just noticed that you were concerned
about one friend and not the other.
Like, I hurt my leg the other day.
I fell in the hallway.
You walked past me.
He didn't ask me anything.
He didn't ask me anything, but you asked Mark about his back.
You have such a liar.
I did not know you fell in the hallway.
That's number one.
You made it sound like I just stepped over you in the fucking hallway.
You might as well.
That's how I heard that happened.
It's not fucking...
I did.
I heard he was laid across the hallway.
And you walk right over.
Daisy did a little.
That's what I heard.
No, no.
It's been an ongoing thing with him.
His back has been hurting him for like a really long time and he refuses to do anything about it.
I have tried to push him, you know, in the right direction.
I'm like, go see my physical therapy.
Yo, how far are we in the pot?
It's fine.
There's another.
There's another double M.
There's another M that's around.
That should be pushing him to fix his bad.
Everybody.
There's another M that'll stop that.
Everybody up here has expressed concern about everybody else's well-being.
It's not that big a deal.
I agree with her.
Hold on a quick, I agree with her.
We are worried about you.
I'm good.
No, no.
And I do take care of my back.
I got to act.
You got to stop doing that because you act like you're the superhero of the world.
But who's going to save Superman?
Every time outside the balcony, I pull you to the side.
You do.
Yo, what's good?
Are you okay?
No, all you're the side.
Look, look at the hater, look.
Who's going to save Superman?
Who is going to say?
Don't pay me no mind, yo.
Go ahead.
Why are you laughing?
Go ahead, nigga, just talk.
No, it's not, go ahead.
Don't ever say who's going to save Superman again.
Who is?
What is you talking about me?
Why don't you like this, man?
Hey, yo, listen, Robin.
Nothing serious.
Get your, you know, Robin.
You leaping Lennie Popper?
Green Arrow.
Chill the fuck out.
Stop.
You call a nigga, Rob.
You can't, I can't throw shit at me.
I can stand up.
I can stand up.
I can stand up.
I don't like what you did.
All blob.
I take that
I take that I take that
But what I'm saying
Don't laugh at that
Superman
No I'm laughing at all
This stupid shit
He said what he said
Let's move on
Let's move on please
Can we talk about
The Minnesota Vikings
Making some
History here
What fucking history?
What history?
They're adding cheerleaders
Male cheerleaders
Oh shit
Didn't see that coming
You're calling you
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
you'll have been genufine in the purple and gold
I'm a cowboy for real
all right
you know you had a little viking suit
why you picture me in a viking suit
he is walking around
documenting his shit too
he's like doing like a documentary
so
he's that what you're doing
he's watching it up I was watching
it all the time on the internet
Folding jeans
Right
Tying his shoes
Who?
Hey, let me
Let me
Let me
Wait in
No
I took a page
I took a page
I took a page
You got some
Nick in the call
with you
You're standing by
The boys
Coy or Harlem
I'm like
What the fuck
Going to his life
My
My favorite
Was having him
having the cameraman
With the cameraman
Follow the cameraman
Yeah
Oh shit
How about it
You got a
You know
I'm not going to lie
I'm glad to be
Where I'm at in life
Sure
Let me just say that
I'm glad to be here
escalator walking up there with the 17
cameramen. Nah, listen. You need the
cameraman to follow the cameraman. I went back to
my old hood where I lived.
I went back to my old hoods.
Was you good?
Yes, I was good. Okay.
Let me just say it was sad,
you know. It was sad to see
some of these buildings from
1983 still looking and smelling
the same. Like
just nasty. Just documenting
your life and your travels. I've lived
in 27 different places in my old life.
Was you working on the biopic?
And it's kind of scary.
I'm like, yo, listen, I check my text message.
I went to the thread with him.
I said, what is this nigga doing?
Like, why are you taking us through your life?
Like, what are you preparing us for, nigga?
Stop doing that, bro.
That's why I called you like four times over there
and you ain't picked up, like, shit like that?
Yeah.
Why are you doing that?
Why are you walking us through your life?
Nick, you're young, make what we...
And you ain't going to where?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't look like B Street.
No, I look back.
When you tried us, at least tell us what you, at least tell us we told us.
All right, so, so, for the patchy.
You said you're taking a page out of somebody's book.
Because you do nice documentation of, like, certain areas.
So I was like, you know, I want to also tie into my life.
But, you know, no joke.
But when you deal with a certain thing, you deal with seeing your friends pass,
you deal with your own level of coming to your own mortality.
You kind of like, not saying prep for some of the work,
but you want to go ahead and kind of dissect how far along you come.
You don't know how much time you do have around.
Yeah.
So for me, that was.
Father O'Neill was in and shit?
You know, it's crazy? I went back then.
Father O'Neill.
They closed down my first Catholic school.
It's amazing, God.
Praise the Lord.
They can't hurt you no more.
He might be on the list.
We don't know.
We don't know.
We don't know.
That's funny, son.
I'm letting you shout at the biggest twice today.
That's crazy.
You shout at him, like, he may be on the list.
That's funny, sir.
Do you feel safe for now that it's closed?
Like, is it like a mentally, like, do you feel like?
Closure.
You've got closure.
That's the word I was looking for.
Thank you, man.
Oh, you're prepared.
He's thinking crazy.
You're walking around doing a documentary with two cameramen.
I'm looking at this shit like, and I zoomed in, too.
That's what type of camera he used.
Like, he's really doing some documentary shit, man.
You're going to tell that story to tell.
Yeah.
No, I don't, there's no story to tell with that.
I got the high notes.
You're my head.
When they get you going,
it's all right, I can't do nothing.
So the Minnesota Vikings.
Yes.
All right, I got it.
I got it.
The Minnesota Vikings have introduced,
shut the fuck that,
nigger.
Talk about something I'm interested.
The Minnesota Vikings have...
You interested in males twerking?
Wait, what?
Yo, Joe, it's going to kill you, ladies.
I'm talking to y'all.
Don't worry about me.
Okay.
The Minnesota Vikings have introduced
Blaise Sheek and Louis Conn as male
cheerleaders for the 2020.
25, 26 NFL season
sparking a polarizing
reaction amongst fans and
commentators.
It's okay.
Blaise Sheik.
I can be.
Oh, the name?
They do sound like male strippers.
They do a little bit.
Blaze?
Sheik.
She's like a married American
gladiator.
What the fuck is this?
Yo, Louis Con.
I think it's interesting.
Mel, let me ask you as
a heterosexual woman.
Does the
idea of
male cheerleaders appeal at all to you?
No, not really, and I feel like, can we,
can't we just have, can we, like, not have anything?
Like, just, can we not have, like, our own spaces
where men don't go of interest rates?
You don't want no cheerleaders?
Okay, listen, if they're going to,
because they're talking a lot about, you know,
you know, inclusion and whatnot in this,
I'm just like, okay, so when does that mean
that women are going to be?
Quarterbacks?
Man.
niggas
The sack record is broke
at the first game
Or even
Or even widely considered
For the coaching staff
That's fair
That's fair
That's fair
That's so I'm just
We want to talk about
Inclusivity as it relates to
Men occupying the spaces
That women have primarily occupied
But I'd like to see that inclusion
Well they're working there
They got women referees
I want to say last two three seasons
The announcers
announcers.
Okay.
I noticed that in the new man.
One of the main announcers
is a woman.
Really?
Wait, that is Blaze.
Let me see.
Let me see.
Come on.
It's a scene.
Why did you search Blaze?
Like, if I was too right.
Show us.
Yo, they said
they said real estate too.
They show us, bro.
Can you show us?
Can we see?
We're live.
Blade sheet.
This is funny, my nigga.
I'm not going to hold you.
That's funny.
This is,
Yo,
can we get the cameras in there?
Mal, you're good.
No, you're good.
That's Blaze.
Oh, okay.
What am I?
Just so the audience who can't see this,
what's happening?
Eric saying,
going to put that on.
Yeah.
Or describe Blaze Sheek.
Blase Sheik.
Oh, is it a femme?
Is it a femme?
Like a, um.
It's, it appears so.
Okay, got you.
From what I just saw.
Okay.
I got you.
You know, I don't want to speak out of turn, though.
You know, leave the cheerleaders alone for the ladies, man.
Why, though?
Why, though?
Why not?
Because this is equal opportunities, equal rights.
Yo, no, all right, listen.
They do be having male cheer leaders there.
In high school and stuff.
In high school.
And college.
Yeah, they were the ones who were like holding.
Yeah, but come on, man.
Like, almost like, they're almost like.
What if one of the male cheer leaders
don't want to lift?
They want to be on top of the pyramid?
They want to dance.
You just say don't?
Dons.
Mass him up.
I think that's fine.
Look.
Let me say this.
Personally, I don't think we need any cheerleaders in football.
I just don't, I don't think they add that much to the game.
Watch it out.
Basketball is a little different.
There's sports more like baseball, we don't have cheerleys.
I mean, this isn't the, I'm just saying I don't necessarily think we need cheerleaders
in NFL games.
That's just my, my, my, my.
We need the Cowboys cheerleaders.
Dolphins ones, too.
And that's what they said about the Lakers.
I mean, there are certain teams that are known for that because of the cities they come from.
But in general, I don't think we need them.
But if you're going to have them, this is my preference.
But if you're going to have them, having men and women do it,
I think it's fine.
I think this is a solution in search of a problem.
I think 99% of the time, no dude is going out for the
the Green Bay Packer cheerleader team anyway,
and it's not going to be an issue.
Packer, all right?
Yo, Packer up?
That was out of you.
I think that it should be equal opportunity,
like everything else that people fight for the rights.
It ain't just there.
The Rockettes got them in there.
Yeah.
And I think that's fine.
The rocks, I think that's right.
The rocks, rockers.
Yo, I don't think that I'm wrong with that.
I just think sometimes when we talk about opposite sides of the same coin,
they don't play out the same.
In the same way, some of y'all go to strip clubs all the time, right?
We don't need inclusion there.
I don't, not in your club, but I'm saying, like,
I don't think male strippers do the same thing for women
that women strippers do for men.
They don't.
Yeah, a lot of the women I know hate male strippers.
That's what I'm saying.
You're wrong.
No, they don't.
You are wrong.
Break it down for me.
Tell me how I'm wrong.
They'd be blowing them off at the party.
Bro.
A little dancing band party, right?
In our hood back in the day.
That shit was, what was that?
The shit right there on Springfield Out.
Ciam.
Wait, how are you doing that?
What are you doing?
I don't know.
Is it cold in there?
My nigga, that shit.
I don't know what he's talking about.
Yo, dog.
I don't know what he's talking about.
Let him talk.
Y'all wish my brother Joe was here who is not
a, oh, wait, he went to.
Phobia.
No, dog, them niggins make hella bread, bro.
Now coming to the stage.
They used to make hella, hella, heller, hell of money.
And Twan.
Nancy.
Now, coming to the stage.
They call him.
How much you made on a good one?
I never, yo.
Women don't look at strip clubs the same way.
They just don't.
That's what I'm saying.
They don't go to smooth.
Okay, let's use Joe as an example.
How often does Joe go to the strip club?
Let's just say, on average.
Two or three times a week.
Joe's different.
Jermaine Dupree sat up there and literally talked about stripper culture
and how frequent and how common it is for men to go to strip clubs to watch women.
Women do not think like that.
Today maybe not.
It's a vagus event or it's a bachelorette party or it's some other occasion.
But trust me, we don't fucking want to go see fucking niggas working with a fucking
too-hand-sam fucking, you know, song.
Y'all invite them to the Bachelorette party
and get real frisky with them.
I didn't say that.
I didn't say that women don't do that.
That's my point though.
Like, we just go on a Tuesday.
They put the foreign objects in there.
Like, they get crazy at Bachelorette party.
Mell, you know what I'm talking about.
I know.
Not you doing it, but you know what I'm talking about?
I can't really imagine.
Like, what's the last Bachelor party I was at?
The last one you was at and the stripper came through.
Y'all was going crazy.
No.
A stripper didn't come through.
Okay.
I think men are the shit we want to do.
I think men and the shrivers and women.
That's all I'm.
Yeah, I would say so.
I'm just saying, like, back in the day in our hood,
like that shit was popular.
Today, the women going to see the women's strips.
Now, that's interesting.
Yeah, women like women today.
Much more than male strippers today.
Yeah, you do know that there's male strip clubs that don't stay empty.
So obviously there's women that go.
I'm not a lot of dudes too.
Maybe.
The strip clubs that I know of usually are gay strip clubs.
Those are the ones that are packed.
and they're packed with men, you know,
but the reality of the situation is,
it's just...
I was saying, male strippers
tend to be very fluid,
and so a lot of interesting things happen.
Interesting, though.
Yeah.
It's what I...
It interests you?
Ah.
The topic does, yeah.
Why your next name is Desani.
Come into the stage,
Ms.
Miss.
He won't get slow-bulchee.
Oh, shit.
The skin, you know I love your...
Licking live to the stage, boy, if you don't...
Oh, shit.
Have you ever danced?
Have you ever done that?
Yeah, up here.
No, no, I mean, like, in a club.
Yeah, Mars 2112 when they was over.
Yeah.
I've never danced for money.
No.
I'm not going to throw something else at you.
No.
You think you'd be good at it?
Oh, shit.
No, I...
It seemed like it could have been on his resume.
Have you danced for a woman before?
Because he's an entertainer.
No, that's not a disc, because he's an entertainer.
No, have you?
Did you take of your clothes, slowly and dance for women?
I've done that before.
He's, yeah.
So ancient.
What song was playing?
What song was playing?
Pony.
That's female scripted on.
I'm pretty sure.
Oh, man.
Yo, y'all are disgusting.
That dude, that diga lip was...
Yo, sorry.
Father Jackson was happy as hell.
Father Jackson was happy as hell.
I said I'm sorry.
That is funny.
No more Father Jackson.
That's hilarious.
All right.
You don't want to get into this top podcast list, man?
Yeah.
Let's give a round of applause.
Saluce to Joe, man.
Number four.
No, I'm not saluting, Joe.
I'm saluting to us.
We are the podcast, too.
So what?
So what?
We all won this motherfucker too.
That's a win for everybody.
Y'all ain't say that shit
when they left me off the motherfucking New York Times.
We did.
We was in the New York Times, so, yeah.
Yeah, we're cool with the article.
That's great.
I'm mad at that.
None runners for a house.
Take your ass to the post.
National Enquirer.
Shoo, fly.
Yo, that's hilarious, yo.
Oh, man.
Yo, we did defend you, but you wasn't on the...
No, that's cool.
It's cool.
But it's cool.
Hollywood reporter.
Hollywood reporter put out the 44.
44 most influential.
Most powerful.
Oh, powerful.
Players in podcast.
Different word.
Okay.
Well, it's whether they're behind.
Behind the mic or behind the scenes, these trailblazers are steering the maturing medium through an increasingly crowded landscape and critical transitions to video and AI.
You need to be on Moana Part 4.
Moana.
Moana.
I'm going for it.
I believe you.
Okay, so number one is SmartList.
It's got Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, and Sean Hayes.
They started that during the pandemic and ended up with $100 million deal at Sirius XM.
I've never watched it.
Damn.
Yeah.
I like all of them, though.
I listen to it.
It's cool.
Yeah.
The next one is The Daily, and it's the New York Times flagship podcast.
Newsy pod.
Yeah.
And then the next one is Stuff You Should Know.
It's been around for 17 years.
I know this one a little bit.
They just, they were the senior editors at How StuffWorks.com.
So it's all the shit that you didn't know you wanted to know.
And then at number motherfucking four is the Joe Budden podcast.
Flap it up again.
Fuck that.
It's not the podcast.
It ain't the podcast.
It's the podcast,
I mean, it does say the Joe Button podcast.
Oh, look at that hate.
Look at that hate.
It does say the podcast.
You don't say Justin Bateman by himself.
What does it say?
Okay, so it says a decade after Joe Button launched his namesake podcast,
it remains the most influential in all of hip-hop.
The rapper turned to hear that.
Recently revealed that his podcast,
podcast network is expected to generate more than $20 million in 2025 between subscriptions
and ads, making him one of the most successful podcasters in the industry.
When he was asked, biggest challenge facing podcasting now, he said it's us versus algorithms.
Fair. Yeah, that's true.
It's indie, yo. Shout out of Joe.
Indy, that's indie. Huh? Say it again?
Got to say that. It's indie. There ain't no, no serious when nobody comes here.
Yep.
Salute?
Salute.
Damn.
They read the Times article, too.
Yeah.
The Patreon League changed everything.
They really did.
I was just talking about that shit the other day.
Nothing was the same.
Talking about just bumping into people
and seeing tweets and shit.
Like, oh, they read the article.
Yeah, man.
They read the article.
I should change people's tones, like, overnight, boy.
Joe Rogan is number 17 on this list.
That surprises me.
So I don't know.
I'm trying to figure out if this is like in some kind of like
if it is actually in an order
because it's not saying like one, two, three,
it's just listing them.
But like if it was, he's number 17.
Wow.
He's like under Call Me Daddy.
He's under Mel Robbins.
He's under Michelle Obama's new podcast.
I mean, in fairness,
I haven't seen a whole ton of viral moments
from his show in the way that we used to.
So I mean, there may be some analytics to back.
I mean, but have we seen viral moments from the other ones as well?
Like that?
Michelle Obama's, yes.
I mean, hers, but I mean, as far as Chasing Bateman joined.
Yeah, no, that's true.
I don't even think that matters.
Well, they're not video.
As far as I know, they're not video.
They're audio only.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
They listen, great.
Off the audio?
Off the audio.
That's just nuts.
Congratulations.
Shout to everybody.
Congratulations.
Shout to Chuck.
Shout to us.
Shalt to us.
We did it.
We did it.
Yeah.
We did it.
All right, something we didn't cover in music was Lil Yadi's got some new music out right now.
that's getting people a little up arms.
Riled up.
A little riled up.
I guess I'll play.
I don't really want to, but fuck it.
ITSU.S.
I'm going to break the bank for it.
Put my knee up on her neck.
I went to Joshwood.
Okay.
We've heard enough.
Even before we got to that bar,
I don't know what the opposite of a gunshot or air horn is,
but I would have hit that.
A fart.
Yeah, fart.
Fucking fart.
A loud fucking fart.
That's horrible
You gotta read the room
You gotta read the country
Fuck the room
You gotta read
You know what I'm saying
I think it's a little
It's just like
Politically incorrect
And a little bit distasteful
Is more than a little
distasteful
Putting my knee in her neck
What the fuck are we doing
What are we talking about here
Am I missing something?
I did see a nigga do some wild shit
In one of them videos
I know
I don't know
Wait so you did it
You're probably in the neck
sounds like
I hear you
your frustration about
putting in your knee
on her neck
and I think much of America
it's all of the above
like the whole thing is offensive
but I'm like
could we
could we just address the fact
that this is like
a really horrible thing to say
yeah
it is it's disgusting
it's terrible
yeah
it's horrible
and then to use George Floyd
as a reference
like who the fuck raise this kid
that's why
like I sound like the old lady
right now
I know I feel like
an old head now
I have a controversial, though,
something I said the other day
that stuck with me again
that I wanted to pick up on.
First, George Floyd,
using him in that sentence to me
is so representative
of where we are as a culture.
And that's what's frustrating me.
When I was younger, it bothered me,
but now as the old person, it makes me sad.
It's like we marched, we bled, we cried,
we struggled because a police officer
killed George Floyd,
and because black men and women
are getting killed around this country.
And to mock it, to me, is, is this, is, is, is it's a distasteful.
I think it reminds me of when Lil Wayne had the lyric about Emmett Till.
I was going to bring that up.
And even in that, not to cut you off.
No, please.
The backlash wasn't immediate.
Right.
It was years later.
Right.
Like, that was karate chop remix.
And that record line, all that shit rang off.
Right.
It wasn't, the times are different now.
So, yeah, now you say something like that.
Because that's, that's the first thing I heard.
when I heard this.
I'm like, oh, he's doing the same shit.
We still did.
You can't do that.
Different day and time.
Yeah, different day and time.
Read the room.
Have some common sense.
That's the part of it.
That's the point for me.
That's the point for me.
It's like, I want us to be at a place as a culture, as a community,
as people where we don't want to do shit like that.
I agree.
You get what I'm saying.
Like, that's all I'm saying.
Like, I get read the room as a different time, but also, it's all true.
But also, like, I don't want to raise a child.
I don't want to raise a child.
I don't want to, our community raise children.
that mock our fallen ancestors
that mock our elders that mock people
who died for us or who got killed
whose lives are like a ransom for our struggle
like for me that's fucked up
and that's the part that really makes me sad
and what I was saying earlier
you mentioned I don't know
it was Tuesday you said something about
C. Delors Tucker
and when I look back
I remember in the 90s and even in the early arts
we used to talk about C. Delors Tucker and Dionne Warg
like they were hating on hip-hop
In a bad way right
They were fucking right.
They were 100% right.
They were.
Yes and no.
Yes and no.
Because again, there is a part of that First Amendment freedom of expression part that is what hip hop was.
I don't think that was what that point was.
Can y'all inform me what was said as far as back in the day, C. Delorsesseller's Tucker, she was, was she was in Congress?
No, she was, what was her official title?
I thought she was something, but she used, she used, they were like doing congressional hearings and shit to try and get.
some of the misogyny and some of the vulgarity out of hip hop back in the day.
Okay.
Activist and former secretary of the Commonwealth for Pennsylvania.
Yeah, got you.
So all of the rappers and all of them used to be kind of dissing them.
Like Pock was dissing them.
Other rappers used to diss them.
I understand now from a parental standpoint that some of these things are horrible.
Some of these things should not be said.
But from an artistic standpoint, and if that's how we.
speak in our day-to-day life and music supposedly mirrors our day-to-day life and our day-to-day
struggle. That's how people speak outside. When I come up through your love, my nigga, you don't
say, yo, don't call me the N-word because it's not politically correct. That's not. You get what I'm
saying? So some of those things are just reflective. We don't do that in movies. We don't tell
the movie people, yo, don't do these things and don't say these things because, and again, visual
art is more powerful than
audio. No,
that's, I don't, I do not agree with that at all.
I think that the, I think that
the spoken word when you don't
have a visual and you have to use your imagination
can be more powerful
than the visual because you can just like
just have like, you know,
glazed eyeballs. Well, that's where your imagination
takes you. But somebody else
putting it on the screen is where they're there.
Like Hove said, Scarface the movie did
more than Scarface the rapper to me. All day.
What's that? I said, like Hove said,
And I always say a whole bar for everything.
Scarface the movie did more than Scarface the rapper to me.
That Scarface interview, by the way, was absolutely fire.
I don't know if y'all watched that.
Yeah, that was same clip.
Give an example, Mel.
I was going to give the example of like, you know, if I say who's the voice of God,
I feel like the whole room will know who I'm talking about.
Morgan Freeman.
Right, exactly.
Everybody knows that.
Like, when you, I feel like, I just think that when you get into people's heads
through your voice, then they start to do narration using your voice.
I think that that is like an incredible place of power.
Great point.
But that came from video, though.
That came from movies.
That came from a movie.
Okay, so just using him as an example,
but I googled, when I googled C. Dolores Tucker,
this post came up on Instagram,
says, C. Dolores Tucker told us in the 90s
that we would be exactly where we are today.
Rap music has done a number on the black community,
just like she said it would.
I can only imagine how much more real progress
the black community would have made
had we listened to her
and how much safer and healthy our community
would be, goes on to say, you know,
she made a quote, you can't listen to all that
language and filth without it affecting you.
So, about crack. Like, what the fuck?
Who wrote that? I hate when that happens.
Apparently, that's a quote from her.
Here's where I would have
a departure from her. First,
a couple things, right? One, there's the First
Amendment question. Yeah, people should have a right to say what they want.
For me, this isn't a legal question.
People should never write, as I said, I want people to
want different choices. I don't want to restrict
people's choices. I just want people to want different things.
You shouldn't want to say that. You shouldn't want to say that.
I remember when,
when Dionne Warwick
spent some time
with Shug and Snoop
it was a Drey and Snoop
I believe it was Shug and Snoop
but it was definitely
Snoop was there
and she was like
call me a bitch now
and they wouldn't do it
they wouldn't do it
Snoop was like
that's the most gangst
she was the biggest
gangst in the room
that day
because there is a way
that when you're on the record
you can say certain things
that you might not say
in your personal interactions
right because we've been
raised with respect
and respect to elders
but Dion still got to hear
them songs and those
nuances and distinctions
are made on the record
so for me it's about
wanting different things
but then the other piece
of this is
we do have to make a distinction
between sort of the structural shit
that happens to us.
People aren't selling drugs
because they heard a rapper sell drugs.
Exactly.
People are jobless.
People have had markets clothes on them.
I mean, schools don't open.
I mean, there's a million things.
If I'm making a list of reasons
why people sell drugs,
rap wouldn't make the top 20.
We didn't make the top 20.
Exactly.
So we're not going to blame rappers
for the conditions.
But at the same time,
I think the mirror excuse for me
always lets us off the hook a little bit for our behavior
because mirrors do reflect reality
but when I look in a mirror most days
and I see the fucked up shit I try to fix it
I see my hair's out of place I brush it
I see some coal in my eye I wipe it out
except that one time right
there's a way that like the mirror is supposed to be a corrective
but a lot of times when we
look at hip hop or listen to hip hop
it doesn't necessarily the music isn't inspiring us
to not call women to be word
it's not inspired to not shoot each other
and when I'm walking around Philly or New York
or New Jersey or whatever and I'm here watching
just take drill rap for example.
We're killing each other
and the music isn't inspiring us to stop
killing each other.
Whereas a mirror inspires us to look better
and act better.
This music's not inspiring that
and that's the thing.
Again, I want us to want something different.
It may not be inspiring us to do so
but it's not preventative
in any way, shape or form.
And also in terms of like music may not make you
you, you know, may not be the reason that you sold.
Well, I don't know if that's necessarily true
because of years and years and years
of glorifying like drug dealing
and the drug business.
There are people who grew up listening to it and aspired to actually do that.
I agree with that, too.
And you said that...
I'll listen to that.
You said that what about the jobs that I did that the young people don't want to take, don't want to do?
That's where culture is important, but I don't want to...
You're making a...
You finish it, I don't...
Yeah, no, no, no, because when you say that the jobs may be there,
but then some of the people in our culture may not want to take the jobs, right?
They want to follow what they hear or what they see.
Right?
When you go and see the, if your mom don't have it, she's working a nine to five.
You see her sweating all day, coming to work, coming late,
and you're not able to get the stuff that you want,
but you watch Tommy over there.
He's getting all the money, and he's selling drugs.
Right.
So, but I can also be a kid to go get a job at a fast food restaurant,
but I want the fast thing because of the culture,
so I will follow in Tommy's footstint.
Right.
So it all coincides.
You don't think so?
It does, but I,
And I think as a young person, I would relate to, say, Jay-Z or Nas or Scarface,
whoever, more than I would relate to somebody else.
So their stories were more persuasive to me than the bigger culture stories.
But I don't want to act like this stuff is indigenous to hip-hop.
Everybody in America wants to be rich without working.
Everybody in America is overextended.
Everybody spends more than they make.
And in every culture on the planet, nigger, the bad boy gets worshipped.
I was just talking about how when I was in.
Italian niggas, they wanted to be mobsters coming up.
That's not something that is only, yeah, like, come on.
That's not something that's just, I hate how hip hop takes the brunt for a lot of this.
And be clear, my nigger, prior to somebody rapping about these conditions, the conditions had to exist for me to be able to write about them.
And I was saying when I was in Nashville at the country museum or whatever, they had fucking all types of gun glorification and there's mad country songs about the same kind of shit that's happening in rap.
So my point is, yo fam, if these.
conditions didn't exist, then NWA couldn't have written about them.
The conditions had to exist first.
Rap didn't create the conditions that some of these conditions created the rap lyrics.
People who rapped about what they saw, what they were living.
And so, and again, little kids every single day, whether you white, whether you black,
whether you whatever, the little boys in the world want to emulate the people that they see
get reverence and praise.
So if it's a pimp in your neighborhood that gets the reverence and praise, guess what you want
to do?
If it's a doctor in a neighborhood that gets reverence and praise,
you want to grow up to be a doctor or athlete or whatever the case may be.
So a lot of these things are people trying to mimic what they see.
They're not mimicking what they hear so much as what they see.
I'm not sure that a song about welding is going to slap that much.
It's going to get no bitches.
It's okay to call this nigger, an ignorant nigga who says some ignorant shit without vilifying hip hop.
Like, I think you make it more than what's needed to be at the moment.
That's a goal post.
a lot of moments where, yes, hip hop does influence
some ignorant thoughts, but that's not this.
This ain't one of them.
No, no, this, I don't think hip hop in general mirrors
and we're choosing that shit.
Like, it's rhapsodies out here, fan.
We are choosing some of the other lyrical shit that, that chance.
Yeah.
It's shit out here that we can go to if that's what you want to go to.
But if we're talking about systemic shit,
it's not the little Yadi and Emmett Till references,
George Flynn and Emmett Till references.
Those I think are outliers.
But misogyny?
homophobia
that shit
is baked into
hip hop
because it's
baked into
American society
no no
that was
that was baked
into just
America society
and it's
represented in movies
it's represented
in movies it's represented
in many other forms
not just hip hop
I'm just at a stage
in life
and I agree with everything
y'all just said
I'm just at a stage in life
where I don't want to stay there
like I don't care
to everybody else does it
I don't because
I only care about the fact
that black people are killing each other
a whole lot
and I'm tired of us
killing each other
And so if we keep rapping about killing each other
And then I'm watching these kids kill each other
Then I watch them rap about having just killed each other
And not just fictional shit
They're like I killed this nigga on this corner
On 14 street going out to stop light and blue
Yeah
I want us to stop killing each other
And so I get all of Americans
I can watch Tarantino
And see the same shit
But the difference is I'm not
I don't identify with fucking whole fiction
That's all I'm saying
And the misogy is the same way
And I'm just at a point where I don't want to just keep saying
White people do it or America does it
Even though it's true
Because we got to be better than that
True. I don't want to
them to be our bar. I agree with you. I'm just
saying, but when we look at it, we can't
blame some of these things on rap.
I think that
societal conditions existed
pre-rap. Yeah.
They did, yeah, but Mark's
point is accurate as to what
the current, you know, landscape
looks like now. You know, it's not
exactly like, and I don't want to speak
to what how people are. I'm sorry.
You know our chance don't rap about killing niggas?
Because of how he was raised.
He grew up in a family.
with two parents, and Barack Obama knew him when he was a child.
Because he didn't have to kill niggas.
He didn't have to kill niggas.
He didn't have to sell drugs because he didn't have to fucking sell none.
Can we also talk about hip hop?
The normal consensus isn't that everybody in hip hop is moving and living like this.
Like for hip hop, it's a way out for a lot of people to get from situations and better their life.
That is the majority.
There is the small group of people who do live in that type of way.
But I feel like we focus, hyper focus on that so much
Instead of speaking about the positive part of what hip hop does
That's what I get disappointed about
So yes, you get these moments
You get those moments where we talk about
Niggas glorifying but for the majority of what hip hop has done
For the community, it's not that
We had that conversation when
Dr. Umar tried to go ahead and say what he said
No, stop making hip hop seem like
It is the reason for a nation of black people
Being down in the dumps for a large part
It's a big part of why a lot of us
Has come out of the fucking dumps
Like the most successful hip hop for the most part is not the super violent, super offensive shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Like Drake, Jay Cole.
Most of the people who live up for that, they're here today and they're going tomorrow.
Yeah, Jemaine Dupree was just here last week.
Yeah.
He was, he's, I'm sure he close to a B.
I don't want to count his pockets.
My bad, but he shit, J.D.
But, fam, at 17, 18, 19, 21 years old, he was employing tens of people.
You know what I'm saying?
At a young-ass age.
And I'm sure hip-hop has.
transformed the lives of all of those people that he's touched.
For sure.
Outside of sports, fam, it's hard to find a vehicle that has made more successful people on a certain scale than hip-hop.
Yeah.
Then hip-hop.
Like, so I don't, again, it definitely has his bads.
For sure.
We all, I don't think anybody in here is going to disarris.
Everything has his bad.
Some of our bads are bad, though.
That's true.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes.
Some of our conditions are bad bad, true, true.
And that's all I'm saying.
I just want better fraud.
I just want better five.
I'm a thousand times.
And we don't have to use
white people as our bar
or our reference.
I'm just saying in society,
the bad boy gets worshipped.
You don't know.
Speaking of getting worse.
Worse?
Donald Trump is president still.
Yeah.
He's here for it.
You're me.
And he sent in the National Guard to D.C.
Sent the National Guard to D.C.
And for the record, Joe,
I didn't put that on the board.
I'm just transitioning.
I'm mad.
Congratulations.
Yes.
You transition?
Yeah.
Happy for you.
I'll be,
what's that club
you used to go to?
20s.
20s.
Yo.
No,
Cheeto T.
He ain't playing with these things.
Yo.
Yeah.
What's the story, though?
Somebody had it.
So, supposedly,
he is sending the National Guard
into major cities in America,
D.C. being the first one,
to quote unquote, clean up the city.
Mm-hmm.
So, from what I hear, actually we saw clips of them just walking up on kids, like people.
You guys got your ID on you?
Like, it's like stopping frisk to the 10th power.
You know what I'm saying?
But nobody's doing anything.
They're literally just existing.
Just being black and outside.
So if you outside and you smoke, you drinking a beer, you're going to jail.
Like now we just find this shit kind of back in the day.
Prior to, right after slavery, they was just walking around picking niggas up.
Yeah, black coats.
Yeah, you spit on the ground, you go into jail.
Like, certain shit like that, I think they're trying to get us to a place where we're going to start repopulating the prisons.
That's my personal opinion.
I don't want to make no political stance for us, but I think we had it there.
Well, it's getting wild out there, man.
If you in D.C., please be careful out there.
The curfews are kicking in.
You know, it's crazy as the CBC is happening, like, in a few weeks.
Yeah, congressional black caucus, y'all.
Yes, so I have no idea how that's going to pan out.
It's going to be better than that Cleveland thing.
You know, the CBC, no, it's not.
Let me tell you, yo, you guys really, you guys made that shit seem like, but.
And I got so many calls after that little discussion happened up here about NABJ.
Like, they shit all over.
It was like their 50th year.
It's like there was so many reasons that I wanted to talk about it.
What the NABJ stand for?
Blow job at the end?
Oh.
I'm playing.
I'm playing.
What the way?
It's a joke.
And y'all really be saying I'm the horniest.
Person up, you're a huge crazy.
No, no, no, that's over.
You're kidding.
You're number two.
I'm playing, fam.
But, you know, but, peace, but you can send a couple of them to the South Bronx.
Clean that shit up.
I tell you, I was there this week.
You better stop.
Yeah, be careful.
You sounded like the Trumper up here.
No, no.
But you know with me.
Everybody thinks I was pointing to a certain person.
I'm not going to say who it was.
Okay.
To flip.
They do think it's you
They thought you was pointing to me
And I wasn't
And you ain't make it clear
Or go on the internet
And make it clear
Is it disrespect to me
If I say who it wasn't
It narrows it down
And my mom and everything
I can't say who it was
I can't say who it was
I'm narrowing it down
In my little checklist
But you wrong for that
I didn't say anything
No the funny part
And I'm telling that he's
And you know
And you know how passionate
Somebody thought he has
Somebody thought he had some
Inside of information
And you look at one nigga
Voted for
I do they told me
Okay
Hey yo listen to listen to me
I'm gonna text you
You're doing that as a trick
It's no trick.
You know how passion I am, especially with that.
That's what my mom.
How she feels about Trump?
And you know that?
I didn't even vote.
You know what I mean?
That'll show us.
I know.
He's not.
I ain't vote for Trump.
I didn't vote.
I don't know.
I'm just saying like.
Mel.
I'm sorry.
You can't vote yet.
You know, listen.
I'm working on it.
A checklist is getting.
That's why I don't want you to keep talking about it
because people will find out by process of elimination.
Process of elimination.
got it
I know who it is
got it
there ain't nobody
in here vote
for no fucking
I'm telling you
I know it is
I'm not
I'm not
it's not a theory
I'm telling you
I know
I know
nigga they can hear
you y'all on microphone
I don't care
I'm asking
I can't
I can't
stop doing that shit
no you cause it
a lot of havoc up here
I'm not going to
take you to the office
stop
he is the office
okay
no he ain't
no fucking off
not my office
so with that
Donald Trump shit
man
my mother almost killed me
sent me a law
text
motherfucker Mark
because he did
that shit
they pointed out
that point he did
I'm like
I wasn't doing
a part
I was scratching your nose
but the people
did that
they read too much
in the stuff
hold up
I said my
I know you
ain't put
over in this direction
Mark's not doing
shit like this
I don't say
but I'm pointing
elbow
yeah but it's getting
nasty
and you know
like
it's so nasty
with that
DC shit
that on the
White House
actual
Twitter page
they got these
excuse me they have these people mugshots
I'm worried about
mug shots for what what did they do
that they pick it that they pick up in D.C.
One person failure to appear
for trial on an assault offense
can you imagine the White House doing that?
Of course they're all black people.
Possession of a firearm
another black person. I just noticed you did
something you're going to try to stop using
that word or something because you just know I didn't want
to call them niggas. Oh that's all.
I'm never going to stop you. I'm never going to stop
using an in-word.
Okay.
I wasn't calling a little bit.
You think they're just running a play action to divert attention from fucking
fucking that scene shit and all that other shit?
You gotta find a diversion.
Something or unauthorized use of a vehicle.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
And I know you were joking to money,
but we don't want to send a National Guard nowhere to come in.
No, no, I'm talking shit.
I know, I know.
I know, but again, I just, I know you're joking.
But D.
But D.C.'s filed a lawsuit against it.
Right.
And the problem with D.C. is because it's not a state,
it's under federal oversight.
So stuff becomes federal crimes when they don't have to,
if it were in New York or wherever.
But wherever y'all want to clean up crime, send jobs, send food, send shelter.
Right.
That's how you clean up.
Send options.
Send schools.
Alternatives.
And then you'll...
You get a lot less crime.
He mentioned Baltimore.
And I want to shout out the mayor of Baltimore again, who is out there kicking ass.
He is.
Climb is down, yeah.
Is the crime really bad bad in D.C.?
It's not.
No.
No.
That's what's crazy about it.
No.
No.
You used to be horrendous.
I remember back of the day.
Sam, D.C.
That was bad, bad, bro.
We're back with issues down there.
Oh, that shit moved.
That's why he came up.
Exactly.
You know, that shit changed him out of D.C.
That shit used to be bad, bad, bro.
It's night and day.
He's tied up in the basement.
It's night and day.
I've never had no issues when I was up there.
Yeah, shit is night and day, bro.
It's not that.
You know, you'd be good.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, he's got the complexion for the protections.
A little George Shell flow.
But, no, I just think it's whack.
I think it's a diversion.
And I don't think it's going to get worse way before it gets better.
Go ahead. Thoughts and prayers. Thoughts and prayers. Tees and peace.
Hey, yo, hey, yo, freeze.
Yo. I think Doug was talking to you.
Doug put out a tweet and says, you fucking rap
representer, shut up.
Oh, shit. You think I was free?
Damn. He was definitely talking to you, yo.
Of all the people, you're a rap representative?
I didn't think so. Why were he talking to me?
I mean, because
you'll be a strong defense of Gunna and how unbothered he is
because he's 16.
You were the only one that talked about Gunna
and took the stance you took
that was on the internet as of recent
Oh, damn, damn, hey thug
Yeah, I meant all that
Oh shit
Yeah, everything I said
I mean, you can call me a rap representative
But I am listening to some good music
And you are not putting out good music
So, hey, what do we do?
This is rap?
Rap. If you don't want to rap, that's fine, but we're gonna,
me, not them.
Me, ice, officially ice.
And only ice.
And only ice.
I like Young Thug.
I like Thug too.
I would love to hear.
Ain't no more you like Thug too.
Okay, well then I don't know.
Yeah, it's over, yeah.
That's fine.
Yeah.
Gunna has been delivering great music since he came home.
I am appreciative of that.
I am a fan of hip-hop.
I spend my money on this.
I went to Gunna shows.
I bought Gunna merch.
I wish I would have saw that tweet before I came in here.
I'd be sitting here with my Gunna shirt on right now.
New I see.
Don't put that.
Yeah, no, no.
You don't know, right?
My man, my man.
You what?
Is she don't agree?
Um, she tried to walk.
Wake it up, Mel.
Nah, I don't really agree with that.
I don't think you said anything wrong.
I don't either, but, I mean, if the shoe fits, you know how people get.
He might not have been talking to me, but Flip said he was, so he was.
I'm just a girl, though, you know, so like, I'm just a girl, though, you know.
I don't have a dog in the race.
You don't really even understand.
You got principles and morals, right?
Yeah.
So I don't, that's what I'm saying.
I don't agree with that.
I'm looking forward to some Young Thug music.
Me too.
I have been looking forward to Young Thug music for a minute now.
But not no more, right?
But not on more right.
I'm still looking forward to.
I don't give a fuck about that.
If it's good, it's good.
Maybe we're going to go to the Young Thug show?
I haven't went to a Young Thug show.
But you go to a Young Thug show.
Yeah, I'll go to a young Thug show.
I would show.
Me too.
Has Young Thug ever headlined a tour?
Oh shit.
Oh, shit.
I'm just curious.
Wake it up.
Has he?
I don't know.
That would normally be a you question.
Word.
Listen, listen, this is all...
I don't know.
I would have went.
Some of us up here like Thug a lot like you do.
Yeah.
And some of us up here just respects his music
and respects his opinion
on how he feels within his camp.
All of that's fine.
Yeah.
He can feel...
Again, I'm just speaking as a fan.
I don't know Thug.
I don't know Gunner.
I know the people that I know.
in Atlanta, I'm just speaking
as a fan. And it seems
like I said, everybody that has
a problem with
Gunna, who are rappers,
have been putting out mid
since Gunna came home.
That's a fact.
You might be putting bad smoke on them.
Doug might have not been talking about it.
He's been on some, no, no, he got
a couple feature verses out there. He's got some
features out there. You're going to new chance. I didn't hear that one.
I didn't hear the chance album yet.
And if it is fire, I will admit it. Again, I'm not
a hater. But what I said, Gunner has
one of one album.
What's the newest album? The newest album is called the last one.
They said all the songs sounded like. They've been saying that about them for a long
time. They were actually playing, that clip you're talking about where they say all the
songs sounded like. They were playing clips from the other albums with this one
back and forth. Like it was a song here, song here, song here. And it's like the same
tempo going through. But if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And it's working.
Okay. All right. All right. All right.
Freeze, you put jeweler's discount questions on the board.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, man.
Speaking of, thug.
Well, it wasn't just thug.
So there was a jeweler.
The first video went viral.
It was the jeweler and lotto.
And he said, you know, she was purchasing some jewelry.
And he said, I'll give you a discount.
If you can answer this riddle.
So the 45th and the 47th president of the United States have the same parents.
How is that possible?
Is that a riddle, though?
It's not really much of a riddle.
It's not a riddle at all.
It's literally just a fucking...
Is it right for couple of they know the answer here?
Yeah.
It's not even a stable fact.
It's just a regular fact.
It might be a riddle for some motherfuckers.
For the little spad.
That's what...
Sped ed.
Sped ed.
That shit is the Pythagorean theorem.
Some of my fucking I don't know what you talk about.
Because guess what?
So what would they answer?
So, so she couldn't answer it.
She didn't even give a...
Like a, no answer.
Like, not even a wrong one.
I think one she said was, are they brothers or something like that?
Siblings.
And then the guy said no.
So she couldn't answer.
There's so much wrong with this.
And the internet tore her up.
Yeah.
So then, same jeweler was there with Young Thug.
He asked Young Thubb.
Oh, same question.
And Thug was trying to talk his way through, try to figure out, like, he's like,
it don't make sense.
It don't make sense.
How, what do you mean?
He's like, the 45th and the 47 president have the same.
parents. Are you giddling it right now?
No, no, no. I know
his answer.
He's true.
You're lying in this guy.
She came for your neck.
I was about to tell you, I was going to tell you.
No.
I'm going to say, yo, the chicken tenders and the chicken.
I got caught with a question like this in the street.
But a kid named Drette TV caught me with a question.
He said that your uncle's your uncle's sister who is not your aunt,
who is she?
And I got stuck.
It's tricky.
How?
I'm joking.
No, I was stuck, and I was like, but I got caught with a question.
No.
Chicky?
No.
But he asked me a question, and you know what it is, right?
How did your mom feel about that?
Yeah, word, what she said.
You didn't know, Mel didn't know.
How the fuck didn't I know is your mother?
Whoa.
What you're talking about his mom?
It's so simple.
She's not your aunt.
She's your...
Okay, there's another one.
Two plus two times two is what?
Uh-uh.
I'm not a math genius, all right.
Exactly.
I'm out.
Wait, wait, wait, no.
Two plus two times two is what?
No, it's the math genius part that was throwing me off.
Hmm.
I'm not.
Okay.
I think I've seen that one of people saying six.
It's not eight.
It's six.
Six.
Please excuse my aunt, my dear aunt's out.
That's what you say?
You do the, I say, please excuse my daughter.
Wait, the what?
You do the, please excuse my.
You do the multiplication first.
Perthese, X, excuse my,
This is American math.
Okay.
No, math is universal.
Math is universal.
We got a clip for the day.
Oh, shit.
This is American math.
Two plus two is the same in Canada.
Two times two is 17 in Canada.
What are you talking about you?
What's the chicken nuggy in Canada?
Right.
There ain't know that.
French baguette.
Nougat.
Nougat.
Nougat.
Yeah.
I got to stop that, though.
Flip, you just ate 30 chicken nuggets.
No, but there's some kids that who told like that.
I ordered 30.
We went over there, was two left.
But people talk like that.
You got to stop that.
It's true.
Stop what?
Stop that voice.
What I said?
Like, you're talking, like, you can't really pronounce the word.
This is, chicken.
Chicken.
How many syllables, baby?
If Johnny had five apples.
Chicken nuggets are good.
You ain't seen.
Hey, you ain't seen the meme.
You ain't seen the people trying to dignify it with
I order a very weak.
You would like to get some of them, huh?
So, so, we'll go back to Thug and Lano Failed.
Yeah, Thug said they were the bushes.
Damn.
That was his answer.
That guy was like, no.
And then when they explained it, Donald Trump.
Yo, some of them would be caught off guard, you know,
they ain't thinking.
Okay, well, hold on a second here.
We all know that.
Hold on, it thug depends.
He was like, oh, yeah, I know that.
I just wasn't keeping track of the numbers of the...
I didn't know, like, he's number 47.
But the Bushes wouldn't have been the right answer.
It's fine.
It doesn't make sense.
But I can understand not knowing...
Wait, you said the Bushes doesn't make sense?
It wouldn't be the right answer?
No, because George Herbert Walker Bush is the father of George W. Bush.
No, no, no.
No, no.
I was trying to catch Parks or something.
Because the Park said the Bush made sense.
He said it did not make sense.
No, he said the Bushes don't make sense.
Oh, then I didn't hear you.
Because his father and son.
Yeah, I know.
I'm familiar.
I thought you worked at you just said it last year
I thought he said the opposite
He was born at West Point, bro
And the dad might have worked me
The pot, dude
I said the boss's father worked here, yeah
Everybody just calm down
I'm ready to suit so much in it
What's wrong?
We'll be together next weekend
And more serious news guys
What is, again
Who ate all the pussy?
Thank you, Imani
Wait
I'm sorry
It's been brought to our attention
that the pussy has been eating up
Waka, walker
What is it?
I don't hear of the story
Crunching munching right there
And Mike can you tell me what this means
No, I cannot
Come on break it down
You don't know about eating all the pussy
You're the munch
Willow Smith posted on Instagram the other day
Who ate all the pussy
With a selfie of her crying
Just look at his face real quick
He got that face too
He got the munch face
Look at it
He mottomboats
No
No
Yeah
That's it
You got to be quiet, though.
His top is the sticking in the bottom.
The dick is a fucking Pokemon.
He's a fucking talking about.
Lickapolus, Nick.
You eat two at once.
Lick a potter.
Yeah, yeah, he can eat five at once.
Lookupon.
That's his name.
Oh, man.
Willow Smith.
Yeah, Willow Smith had a question.
So she posted, because I don't know the story at all.
She posted.
She can't follow.
What the time, y'all?
With a picture of herself?
Crime.
Crime.
Okay.
And she says she can't find no pussy?
Like, I'm confused.
I didn't even know she...
Oh, now we knew.
That whole family just said.
You didn't know she what, ma'am?
I didn't know she had made any level of declaration as to what...
Oh, sometimes you don't have to really...
I guess I just haven't seen anybody with her either.
Yeah.
She's a sniper.
Take your little ass back to Ella.
She can't go back.
I can't go back.
I can't go back.
I'm joking.
She whipped your hair back.
I'm not sure if this was a reference.
There was a Zach Galfinack's stand up
where he did a Who Ain't All the Pussy Joke.
I think it was Noam Chomsky was the answer
or something like that.
Which is a great fucking joke.
It was a hilarious bit.
So I'm not sure if she was referencing that, but.
My sent you a clip, she said she was, obviously
she said she was joking.
I mean, people don't know how to take a joke.
Do we want to hear her?
I mean, yeah, please.
And y'all forgot funny.
Existed.
She's kind of right.
She's big, here.
Y'all niggas, like molasses.
She never said niggas right.
I was sweet, though.
Be sweet, too.
Yeah.
But it was.
I didn't need things.
Okay.
Yeah.
It goes back to the question Joe said on the last part.
I don't know if we answered it, but what did he say about watching kids grow up to see
who they become?
Remember that question?
No, yeah.
It was more like.
Thank you, man.
Was it?
to see like the
to see how they've been raised
like the effect
like the effects
the who raised them
yeah like
seeing it in them
as they grow up
this fall right there
this fall right there
my brother
you said they had
shout out the
that's the homie
but you saw he was outside
Jane's your homie
no
I just
he just laughed
I just laugh
damn
you were exposed
I'm sorry
you're going to
no problems
listen
she was like
on your dick a little bit
about that
she was excited for you
to be friends
with Jane Smith
Nah, she was impressed.
Yeah.
I would have been.
That's a different type of friend.
That's the next level.
That's the next level.
That's like Kaisnett level.
Oh, shit.
That's Trusky level.
Niggas.
See now?
Kaj's my homie.
Shout him out.
Kyle's my homie.
So is Drusky, right?
Associates.
Does he know who you are?
Of course.
He did Jusky.
I don't know y'all.
No, Juski, DMed them in 2011.
He know who is.
He dubbed him.
He said, you're not 40 in them.
Who's up?
Say, let's work.
Yeah, that was bad.
I don't want to talk about that.
Listen.
No.
Now you.
Now, yeah.
Because it's a lesson learned.
It's a lesson learned.
Yeah.
And I don't make you turned.
I mean,
because how, but how?
The K turns.
Let's make a K turn.
Let's the blinker on.
Last time we talked about, shout out of Drewski.
I think I'm a fan.
I think he's a big.
Last time we talked about that up here,
people were agreeing with you.
I think you said that, or somebody said,
up here that it's okay to go back even if you shun somebody i'm saying it's embarrassing if i shun
somebody i don't think that i feel embarrassed to later go back to them and try to
oh hand but if he came up to you you'll say yes or sir maybe yeah i'm gonna get the shucking
and you're shucking oh no i'm just saying like if somebody gets out to you exactly what you
in my mind i'm gonna think that he's always going to remember that and he's going to try to
embarrass me he might not mean one thing you could do
And also, just apologize, if you did something wrong.
Yeah.
He might not even be on that.
He's like, yo, come on, Lord, man.
Yeah, I got you.
Let me hold my boom mic.
Oh, shit.
You want to be the boom mic here?
His others are not long enough.
Oh, shit.
Stop and stop.
You, the new J.R.
You the new J.R.
Oh, shit.
You're Trusky Jr.?
Oh, my God, that was foul.
You said.
You said.
Are you?
He's trying to pass off the founders.
That was the found thing to say.
All right, Joe, we got a serious piece of business to cover, though.
All right, what's up?
I think a lot of times in America, like, lies get told.
Okay.
And we have a duty as journalists.
We never figured out who ate all the pussy.
We'll get back to it.
The first time I'm about to bring up is not the answer.
Oh, Jesse Smollett.
For damn, no, he didn't eat the pussy.
Jesse Smollett is releasing his Netflix documentary.
On what happened?
Oh, he's producing this dog.
I don't know if he's producing it, but he's certainly promoting it.
And saying that this is the one where he tells the whole story about what happened.
So I hired the niggas.
And I think it's important in a country that often buries lies to have the truth finally told.
So I'm happy to see this document.
That was your people, too, right?
Yeah, we're cool.
You know, let me ask you a question.
You're cool with the smollets.
You don't think the truth was already told?
No, I don't.
So you think there's a possibility that he wasn't lying?
No, I don't.
Okay.
There's the truth.
There's three sides to the truth and the truth.
Your side, my side, and the truth.
Oh, no, he's not producing it.
It's the same producers that made the Tender Swindler and Don't Fuck with Cats.
Oh, I love them.
They're good.
I like this.
They're good.
Yeah, listen to these niggins.
Yo, Tindler, Swindler, yeah.
No, don't fuck with cats is amazing.
Yeah, that shit was different.
But Jesse has said that, you know, more of his stories told on this.
I think.
Version.
Yeah.
Here's the thing.
I personally never cared whether he was selling the truth or not
because, I mean, that wasn't the interesting part of the story.
In terms of his incarceration.
Wait, so what's so interesting for her?
Sort of what would make somebody make these choices?
Like, the document, the stuff that makes a doc interesting.
Like, what was going on in his brain to make the choices he made?
What was going on in the police department?
Subway.
Going to Subway.
Right.
Go to subway at 4 a.m. in the winter is wild.
And also what was going on kind of like, you know,
in the environment, like socially,
what was happening at the time.
To say that Maga people attacked him,
for the police to spend this much of time and energy
locking somebody out for false,
I was filing a false police report,
which lots of people do
and very few people get prosecuted for.
So for me, the story is interesting.
I never cared so much about whether he was innocent or guilt.
Not because I believe him or don't believe him,
just because to me, like, I just don't care that much about that part.
I think people are right to care about it.
I just don't care that much about it.
it you know what I mean yeah this is
and we never found out why he lied
well this is the
listen listen let's remember his conviction was overturned
okay what were you going to say for his
um
what his conviction was overturned
we know you cool we're not
we're not stopping yeah we're not stopping
I'm just telling you his conviction was over
I'm just putting all the facts out
the Netflix tagline says
this is a shocking true story
of an allegedly fake story
that some now might just
be a true story
that somehow might just be a true story.
Featuring interviews with police, lawyers, journalists,
investigators who claim to have uncovered new evidence about the case.
Hold on, let me finish.
And with Jesse himself, this compelling documentary invites the audience
to decide for themselves who is telling the truth about Jesse Smoller.
Oh, so they're not going to give us the answer.
No.
No, they want you to come watch.
They want us to watch.
And he's going to be in their line again.
No, but even in docs, sometimes they don't give you the answer at the end of it.
That's the most annoying shit in the world.
I hate that.
Did he end up telling you the truth, Mark?
Did he tell you what happened?
I did do an interview with Justice Mallet.
One of the two interviews, I think, that he's done.
You can check it out on my channel.
If you subscribe.
Yeah, if you subscribe.
But, I mean, I've talked to him off the record or on the record.
I've talked to him, you know, I have a bigger picture of the story.
Yeah, because off the right.
It's often if you went to that club and Jersey.
If you go to 20s, you know, matter of fact, that's what we was at.
You know, both got 20s.
You all got to, let you.
Did he let you let you in?
Yeah.
Oh, sir.
You both got the glissies with an extra horse rat.
Oh.
Oh, both don't play with you.
You'll be letting him get away.
Get his ass.
No, don't get his ass.
We're so far off the rails here.
This is all I'm saying.
I think that there's a bigger story here that we don't know yet.
I don't believe everything that Jesse Smarlett said.
Like what was on a sandwich?
That's what's to find out
Who's hide the news?
I don't know the whole story
All I'm saying is like
It ain't just one person lying here
Is all I'm saying
There's a lot to this story
That's more interesting to me
Than what happened at night in Chicago
Please tell me what
Watch the documentary
Are you in the doc?
I am not in the doc
It sounds like they should have had to the doc
Were you interviewed for the doc?
No no no I have nothing to do with this documentary
I have just spoken to Jesse
In no more details than what he's told the public
Where's the last time you spoke to Jesse?
Do you believe?
What he told you.
What he told me, I have verified.
Again, and knowing all the information I know,
I don't believe his account of what happened to Chicago is accurate.
I don't care.
Again, I started with that.
But that don't mean he lied?
All I'm saying is there's more to the story than that.
That's all I'm saying, there's more to the story than just that part.
And it's like most people just focused on that nigger lying.
I'm saying, okay.
That's the major part.
Yeah, that's a big part of it.
And I'm saying, but once we stipulate that, if you accept that,
if you believe that, then I'm saying that doesn't mean we can't talk about this other shit too.
That's all I'm saying is a documentary.
gets at the other shit.
All right, but just so I'm clear,
you do believe that nigga was lying.
I don't believe his account was accurate, no.
Mark, when's the last time you spoke to him?
Tomorrow.
It was a whole made it for sure.
Maybe a year now.
It's been like a year.
It's been a minute.
Who's some change going to come again?
We've DM'd and stuff since then.
Don't tell me it's another Sam Cook story.
It's not another Sam cook story.
Oh, they killed Sam.
No, rest of peace.
But what I'm saying is that don't tell me he was
somewhere into some things and then they got
No, no, no, no, no. I don't know anything
about anything like that. All I'm saying is
that this story is, to me is an interesting story.
My question is...
Because the only way, to me, I feel
you. Pause. Let's say he's lying for a second.
Let's just assume he's lying.
We do. At this point,
at this point, do you just...
I mean, could he make a U-turn?
Could he say, you know what?
K-turn. I think you should make the K-turn.
You don't ride it out. You don't ride it out. You don't ride it out.
You don't ride it out like, fuck it. I'm in too deep to do that.
ride it out, but don't do all this
if you're going to ride it out. Or
if you're going to come clean at the end
shut your ass up, accept your feet,
come back, put your head down, do the hard work,
put out an album, because he just got signed.
They said he got signed to Dallas
Austin's label. So, you can come
out, put your project out. See your money, even
he got signed. Oh, shit.
Oh, shit. Damn, yo.
No, no, no. He was not.
Stop me, stop.
You, no.
Yo, fan, we gonna go to Home Depot.
That was for the first one.
We're gonna go to Home Depot.
We're gonna get a rope.
Oh, my God.
Subway.
The Mark?
Two light skin, man.
We'll go to Jersey, Mike.
Go to Blimpys.
Go to Blimpy, though.
We go to Blimpie.
Yeah, get that Blimpie.
It's believable if he didn't say Blimpie, I'd believe him.
That's crazy.
That's fucked up.
Come on, my d'a.
Come on.
Mark, you know dead well.
You know, man, put your head down.
You had a decent career bubbling that was in it.
Are you think you could sing better than Jesse?
Uh, yeah, no, he can't do that.
All right.
Now you can't.
I just wanted to get it out right.
All right.
Hey.
I think you did.
Every time I heard you sing on the internet,
you've always said you had that you cheated a little bit.
Like you had Donnie Hathaway singing with you.
Oh.
So you were kind of like the backup singer.
No, he might be saying.
I told you that off camera.
No, no, no, no.
All jokes is, I say it on camera.
He did.
You did have a good voice.
Oh, shit.
I'm a home.
How do you have a good voice.
Just many things to throw over there.
What are you doing over there?
What are you doing over there?
You said?
I got a kindergarten class over that bitch.
And I brought your ball back.
Yo.
Oh, shit.
Hey, yo, fam, what are you doing over there with this, my nigga?
No, flip, please explain why you got the globe over there.
I don't, they put it over there.
I don't, they put it over there.
Oh, shit.
And the towers.
And queen nothing.
Yo, y'all, oh, yo.
Yellow, yellow.
It's not funny.
Y'all.
Y'all donated to the wrong people.
You're better donate to the cause.
You're right.
Stop that shit.
Enough.
Swing.
White goes at W.
Mommy, water.
And we're talking at the same time.
Man, Jesse Sima.
It's awesome.
Bullkin.
I'm not sitting here listening to the park.
He was wrong, though, by the system.
Both things can be true.
All, I, man.
All, you got, you know, mommy.
All, you got paid.
You are.
Shout to justice.
Let me ask you a question.
Hold on.
Hold on.
If he ain't lying, did the system get a chance to wrong him?
If he didn't go make up this big ass thing that could have potentially sent some innocent
motherfuckers to jail, the system would have never had an opportunity to wrong him.
Get the fuck out of here, my name.
That's not my point.
So if they give him an electric chair, it would have been okay because he lied?
Nobody said that at all.
So I said, I remember I started with the lie part.
And I'm saying, in addition, you can't.
We can't as a system, we can't leave the system off the hook because personally, I'm less interested in the justice story, but I think people have a right to be outraged by it. People have a right to be outraged by it. What I'm saying, no, is they made a deal with him. And then after they made the deal in exchange for community service, they then prosecuted him again. You can't get prosecuted twice. Which is why they overturned his conviction. Same thing with Bill Cosby. Bill Cosby is guilty as sin. But they made a deal with him. Right? They made it, and then he pled guilty.
And they charged them anyway.
All I'm saying is the system has to play fair.
Cool.
So I'm agreeing.
Yeah.
So I have no disagreement with you with Justice.
I don't feel no sympathy for him.
I'm not asking you to.
Oh, okay.
As I said, people were right to feel however they feel about Justin.
Yeah, like, yo dog, let me tell you something, bro.
Again, just imagine if they would have locked somebody up.
Let's just say.
Those two Africans?
No, or anybody that he, because he was saying some MAGA people did there some
other shit, any innocent person that could have potentially went to jail.
Let's just say hypothetically, a father went to jail.
Some poor instant Republican.
I'm about to say some guys wearing Maga Hatson.
They probably did it.
Chester and them with two teeth went to jail.
Holy.
Chester got kids.
That's racist.
That's crazy.
Chester got kids, my nigga.
And Chester goes to jail.
That's some fucked up shit.
And he made up a story.
It's no different than what the white people used to be doing to us back in the day.
Making up fake stories and bullshit like that.
You talk about.
He might make a period or something else.
Yeah, it's a little different.
He might say Emmett Till got lied on.
What I'm saying is.
Emett Till did get a lot on.
I know, but you might use that as an example.
I'm just saying he did get a lot.
No, no, no, I'm saying, like, it's degrees to it,
but I still think that all of it is fucked up.
I don't care if somebody got charged
and they got community service.
They didn't go to jail.
They still were falsely charged based off a lot of he made up.
Fair enough.
We're not disagreeing on anything.
Let's move on.
I agree with everything you just said.
I'm going to watch this doc, though.
The doctor's worth watching.
What?
It's going to be some bullshit in there, boys.
Yeah, Netflix got a Charlie Sheen.
Doc coming, too.
I'm going to watch that too.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
That's right.
That's a story.
Charlie Sheen is one of guys.
those stories that I'm fascinated by.
Again, like Justy Smaller, I want to know what goes
on in his brain.
Well, I mean, there was a lot of, like, you know,
chemistry alteration by all the fucking drugs.
Yeah.
Everything, right.
But how do we feel about allowing these people to also benefit?
Like, because financially, they're going to be well off off of doing these docs.
And Charlie Sheen's story ain't the cleanest.
How much money do you think they're really making off these dogs?
You make a whole lot of money off these docks.
I mean, I think anybody...
I don't think Charlie Sheen is going to consent to a dock without some money.
Yeah.
I'm not saying...
He's not getting some money, but like, how much what you think?
Like, Charlie Sheen, my nigga, he ain't no slouch.
Charlie She ain't walking to the table and getting no bullshit.
Wait, but is he actually a part of the dog?
He's in it. He's in the dock.
Yeah, but I guess what I'm saying is if he's not producing it and he's not getting like real money off of it, right?
And I don't know his financial situation.
I can't imagine he's the money.
I'm not getting $10 million to do the doc.
That's what I'm saying.
Like Charlie Sheen got Charlie Sheen money and I'm just saying.
Because they can't afford that.
Because the dock ain't worth that.
Yeah.
So to me, Charlie Sheen is like...
They don't make a lot.
Don't generate a lot of money.
Docs don't make a lot of money.
And people in docs don't usually get paid in anything.
So I think sometimes these people just want to get their shit out.
And I'm not saying he's not making any money off of it.
But Charlie Sheen don't need the money and he ain't doing it for the money.
I think it would be similar to Justi because I have a story.
I have a story that I want the world to hear.
I want to reframe how the public sees me because right now Charlie Sheen is seen as a monster to a lot of people.
Or a crash out or a head case.
All the above.
All the above.
And I'm saying, like,
he might want to tell
a different story
about himself.
He's just out of ego.
You know what I'm saying?
But all these,
I love all these docs.
Is there a doc
y'all would want to see somebody make?
Or rather,
is there a doc about who,
like, about whom would you want to see a doc like this?
Oh, I'll watch any doc,
so that's a low list for me.
Gotcha.
I would love to at some point
have seen that Prince Doc.
If that would have been released,
I would have sat there
and not blink the eye.
That would have been the one.
That's a good one.
I feel the same way about Michael Jackson,
Doc, like a real Michael Jackson
doc, not, like, funded by Michael Jackson,
not funded by his enemies, but like a real,
yeah, like a real independent, like impartial
I swear you.
Go ahead.
You think is an, am I any joke coming?
No, a Mike joke coming.
No, no, no.
No, but I think that it would be hard to do that
because to get Mike's okay
and get...
Would be real hard to get his okay.
No, no, you know what I'm saying?
I mean, like, or another information, like,
where he was on.
okay with getting that, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Your man they did a documentary about Michael Max.
He was independent, right?
Oh, Abdulahman Muhammad.
Yeah, that shit was fire.
That's one of the best documentaries I've ever seen.
One of the best.
Who killed Malcolm X?
Yeah, I loved it.
Newark.
And, um...
You close.
They come right.
You ain't that far.
They don't come right there.
I live in Irvington, yeah.
You know, you talk to all right.
Ten minutes.
One block.
They got still on one street.
They ain't got a turn.
You don't got a turn.
Straight up.
You know, facts and facts, yo.
There's a story that came out
the last couple days
it's been sparking
a little bit of a gender war
our favorite
I thought we was gonna get through a pie
without a gender war
we don't gotta do a gender war
we could just talk about it
do we're responsible people
we're mature
let's go we're thoughtful
Shakurie
oh Richardson
we touched on it
yeah we did
yeah we talked about it
when she got arrested
we talked about it
now the video of her
actually being arrested
is there any new information
from that video
does change how y'all see things
I mean I
was already like
I ain't what that put your hands on nobody's shit
so
she told them nothing happened
it was just verbal
She told the police
She told the police
Nothing happened
It's just verbal
You know me and him
blah blah blah
They kept the files
Yeah they said
She even told them
Y'all can look at the tape
But they look
They did what they did
What I don't like is
She said why am I getting arrested
And he's the man here
That's crazy
That's where my problem came right there
I stopped dating
I would never speak to her again, ever.
Because of that part?
Yes.
Yes.
It was another thing, too, because she was looking at him like, really?
Really? Really? Like getting mad at him?
And it's like, fam, you getting arrested based on you?
You. I didn't do anything to you.
He tried every.
He was, yo, bro, he tried everything he could to not remotely get misconstrued any put.
He didn't push back. He didn't nudge.
He didn't do anything.
No.
You don't think there's something a little kind of, I mean, let's just say there's nothing he could have done.
There's a cop made up their mind.
We're arresting her, blah, blah, yeah.
You can just sit there and just say nothing while your girl getting arrested.
At least no level of, like, come on, like, please, like, nothing, like you just.
No, but they showed parts where he was like, yo, dog, I'm not pressing charges.
I'm not doing none of that.
My thing is this, do we compound the problem by now allowing them to jump on him?
Because they're not going to treat him like they're treating her.
Did my girl just get done beat my ass?
Because in that case, I'm like,
I'm like, hello.
You know, let's be a Friday.
Sit down a little bit.
I feel like, you know, when she spoke,
it was already like a volatile situation.
And you say things when you're upset
and the threat of being arrested and whatnot.
Since then, she has apologized for everything.
She's apologized for her behavior.
Are you talking about the video or the post?
Hmm?
Yeah, what you're saying?
What you say in the heat of the moment matters, bro?
She did a video apology
Addressing everything
Which I
She was kind of smirking in that
Takes the sincerity out for me
If you're sitting here apologizing
And accepting accountability
I don't want to see
I love this family
I call it like I see it
Ys loves this girl
I know that
I call it like it is
And yes
Y'all know I ride for her
Yeah you do
But
Even in an apology
You smirking
Which
Now when you're doing that
The sincerity is like
No fam it was
If you watch it
You can see
She's damn their smiling
Gotcha.
You don't think that the smiling was due to, you know, a sense of, like, embarrassment
and her not really knowing how to react to it and it's just awkwardness.
I would accept that if it was a rideer boy.
Because guess what?
If that shoe was on the other foot and he was sitting there smiling,
you would not come in here and say, well, maybe he was a little embarrassing.
He felt a little awkward with the camera.
You would be like, he threw that, she threw the boy into a pole.
If it were live, I'd say fine, she's smart.
I mean, just make another video.
Like, if you look back at that, you see yourself smirking, make another video, right?
Like, where it doesn't look like you're smirking.
I thought, I had a little bit of a different take than y'all on this.
You'll be shocked to know.
We wouldn't.
I think, one, I didn't think she should be arrested.
You don't think anybody should be arrested, though.
No, no, but even in the, fair, that's a fair point.
But I'm saying even in the context of the current laws and rules, I don't think she broke enough laws.
Did you see it?
I saw the description of it.
And when you all reenacted it for me outside on the back community.
Oh, you didn't see the actual video?
I read the news reports and I read the police report.
And so I read all the things that she did.
So, you know.
So you know.
That's not enough to be arrested.
But it's contextual because you got to see it.
I stand down.
So if what I'm saying is nullified by what you saw on the video, then I'll concede because I didn't see the video.
I only read the police report.
Okay, but the way you read it.
It sounded like some shit where if I were a police officer, I would be like, yo, y'all need to go your
separate ways go home. I just don't. Okay, let me ask. That's all I'm saying. Had it been flipped,
you think it's the same thing applies there? Police officer says, okay, it's enough here.
It wasn't enough to arrest nobody. Y'all just go your ways and go home? The short answer is yes.
Absolutely. Let's just do this. Let's offer you a view at this moment. Sure. It was one of them
pushes. It was two of the pushes that were really hard. Like one of them, she threw him up against a pole,
bro. One of the, one of the pushes, she kind of threw him up against a pole a little bit. Full force,
both arms. Full force. And he hit the thing like, on.
I thought he would have bounced back and bounced back.
That was the one that I was like, okay, now she's overdoing it.
Her nudging him with her shoulder and all that was something different.
And my thing is this, if we're going to go by fairness, if he would have threw her into that poll like that, everybody in their mother.
Everybody and their mother would say he should go to jail.
Wait, you see it now?
Okay, I've now seen it.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I don't think anybody should go to jail for that.
Male and, this is what I'm saying.
and just take it, believe it.
I'm calling Kat.
I mean, then there's no point
to have a discussion.
I'm listening.
It's an unfair question.
If you say, well, if I say no,
then you say, aha, you have a double standard.
If I say, yes, you say, I don't believe you.
So, I mean, I can't.
But what I would say is, in general,
I don't necessarily accept the premise
that we have to always reverse things.
Because I think size, strength, all those things matter.
You know what I mean?
Physicality.
And that's not necessarily gendered,
but it typically becomes gender.
the words, if my girlfriend were 300 pounds
and 6'4, you know what I mean?
I'm saying? Then, yeah, I think
her push is different than my push.
Can I actually? So for me, it's about, it's about
the harm that was caused. But in
this case, I think what she did was
bad. I think what she did was unacceptable.
I think she should be held accountable
for that. And if I were him, I wouldn't
fuck with her anymore either. I think
we have to say that. Nobody should put their hands on anybody.
Correct. Gender, regardless of gender, nobody
should put their hands on anybody. All I'm saying is,
as a police officer
if I saw that exchange
and I've done that on the street
where I've broken up
potential domestic violence
and since you know
I mean I just couldn't
I wasn't going to let some dude
beat some girl ass in front of
there's two things in that
but let me finish the thought
let me finish the thought
as a police officer
I didn't think that
what I saw right there
amounted to an assault
and so I would have sent them home
and if it was the other way around
I would have done the same thing
Mark you don't think the airport
plays a part in that
for sure
you know what I'm saying
like now this isn't
It's on the street.
That's fair.
So in the airport, yeah, we're going to treat this a certain way.
No, never mind that.
I still wouldn't, but I understand the difference.
The mindset of somebody that feels that comes through to act like that in the airport,
imagine what you would do in private.
Exactly, yeah.
So I can't police you based on what I didn't see.
But I'm just saying, if you're thinking as an officer or anything and you want to prevent
something happening in the future, you have to sometimes think that way.
But that's not your job.
To prevent.
That's like me saying, well, I saw you steal a candy bar.
You probably rob a bank later.
So I got, you know what I can't do it.
I see you physically assault someone even to a minor degree.
It's not my job to make sure that it doesn't proceed.
I would intervene, but I don't think I would arrest them for assault.
But we can't pick and choose when you doing your job is at your discretion then.
No, you absolutely can pick and choose.
Because now I've got to follow the letter of the law.
We have you on cameras in this big-ass airport.
And you are assaulting somebody.
So my job is to book them, Dan, or we can have discretion.
Right.
And what I'm saying is discretion is picking and choose.
People always say you can't pick and choose.
I'm saying you absolutely have to pick and choose.
We always have to use our judgment.
based on context.
If I pull you,
I'm sure as a young boy
you got pulled over
or stopped by the police and frisk.
If you had a small joint in your pocket,
they don't have to lock you up for possession.
And police officers make those choices all the time.
And that's all I'm saying.
Technically, did she break the law?
Yes.
But I'm saying male or female,
I would not have interviewed
that moment in lock somebody else.
You know, Mark, you know how many times?
You know how many times
things like that have happened
where people use their discretion
and say, you know what?
It wasn't a big deal.
And they'd get home and get home and some bullshit happens.
It was just that documentary about the creator
girl that the boyfriend
they pull them in Utah
I was about saying that and you know what
the police locking you up
for those five minutes
doesn't stop that shit from happening
no the police didn't lock them up but the police
sent them separate places and then
she end up going to the hotel where the guy was
at when she was told not to no what I'm saying is
Imani is saying if the police
he's arguing locking them up as a way to stop
a bad outcome I'm saying
90% of the time when you lock people up for that shit
they go back to each other true
again I'm not saying we shouldn't stop domestic
violence. I'm just saying this particular case
wouldn't be something that I would want to intervene the police
in. And I would argue that 90% of
dudes, 99% of dudes
if you were walking down the street and your girl did that shit
to you, you would not want the police to come in and lock her up for that
shit. He didn't want her. That's what I'm saying? So I don't know why I wouldn't
sit here now and say, ask for something different for her
than I would want for myself. And maybe that's
the problem with the mindset. But if the police pulled over and saw
it, they're going to act. But that's not
fair, though. Because we also speak to the mindset
of men just allowing certain things
to take place. That's not normal. That's
not normal.
That woman shouldn't feel that comfortable, especially in public,
doing something like that to a man.
And that's why I would not fuck with her ever again.
That's a great thing.
Again, I'm saying nobody should put their hands on anybody.
And if you don't feel, because once they put them cuffs on her, it was a whole different
tune.
She was a little different.
She was a little different.
She was way, you know what I'm saying?
Oh, hell yeah.
That shit's scary.
All right, cool.
So now this is your lesson that you learn.
So the fact that you got arrested and you know that this is a possible consequence.
You might calm down a little bit.
You might need that.
There's another piece this before we close out on it.
And that was, y'all said that y'all didn't like the fact that she said, why you arrested me and he's the man in this situation.
I heard that differently too.
I didn't hear, y'all heard it like you should be arresting him.
No, that's not how I heard it.
Okay, maybe I just heard.
There's a man here.
I shouldn't be getting arrested.
Even if it's nobody, if somebody's going to be arrested, you got a man right there.
I should not get arrested.
That's the way.
I heard it.
Not saying, yo, y'all go get him.
But, okay.
There's a man that y'all coming to me.
Christian, really?
Really? Really?
Like, she's getting locked up looking at him.
Like, y'all ain't do it.
That sounds like this has happened before.
This is how I used to interact with you.
And you've been the guy to walk away and we're going to create this pattern that's going
to continue until one of us end up really in jail for some stupid shit.
I agree.
So real quick, last question on this.
Would any of y'all stay with this person after in it?
Could you imagine some staying with a person after interaction like this?
not at this stage in life
No
Back in 20s
I know
I know that face
He's like
Today absolutely not
It's like if she hit me with the
Wham
I just might stay two more weeks
Yo listen
Is that right
I ain't got no time
I believe me that shit today
Yo dog
Listen to this
At their age
I was staying with that girl
Oh at that age
I was to be honest
Everybody can I would leave her
We was going to have some fun
When we got home
But look
We grew up in different times
That's true too
We grew up in different times
The fact that she looked at the cops
and said,
yo, why am I being arrested
when he's the man in this situation?
That's a red flag.
Fuck a red flag.
That is deep, bro.
We are minimalizing that.
That is not.
He's somebody, too.
Yeah, I got shit to lose me.
I'm going to just serve me up right now.
Fuck out of here.
No, you got to go.
That's big, bro.
You have to go.
You know how wacky your brain
got to be in that moment
to where you're doing that
in the airport?
I'm on with E.
Like, you know, that's comfortable.
Never mind just you in a hotel lobby.
You're in the airport.
And you're all metal.
Metal.
And you're a back star
that just got in trouble for smoking weed
a couple years ago and got disqualified.
So your perception
ain't the greatest. She got to be held
accountable for just. Never mind
just the action of the abuse
because it's abuse. It's abuse. I don't get fucking nobody's.
Of course it's abuse. Just the thought process that you
have as a star at this
point. Somebody that's
recognized. Come on. You can't do that.
He can't. No. We need to hold her accountable.
You'll get your shit together. Whatever y'all
got going on, fix it. If I need to separate.
race separate, but you as a black woman who's now in this world with a big name, you can't
feel that comfortable to just go out here and to be touching on anybody like that. Let alone
your boyfriend. I agree. It sounds like she needs some support. It sounds like she needs some
intervention. If they in a house by themselves, I see her smacking the shit out of him. 100%.
Oh, what? I see her smacking the shit out of him. When that's happened to you, how have you
responded? Um, okay. It depends on, I've responded different. It depends on how good the box was?
No. No, it depends on my mood. It depends on why they hitting you.
Shit like that matters. You know what I'm saying? But I've been assaulted by women before.
As well.
So, dog, but again, if she would do that, if she would do that in the public airport, my niggins like doing that in Madison Square Garden.
You got it.
That's a hard line right there, me.
All right, we did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. It's been a great conversation, guys.
We had some other gender warship out. Maybe we should leave that alone.
Yeah. I can correct.
We should put it to sleep.
Put it to...
I see what you did there.
I see what you did there.
You are, my God.
You are all right.
Are we going to sleepers?
Do we have friends of the show?
You didn't get the joke?
No, you ain't, yeah.
I got it.
Put it to sleep.
Put up the other.
You really just destroyed his perfect segue.
Yeah, you fuck this whole shit up.
Oh, we do a friend of the show?
Washa?
No, listen.
Rousia.
Listen.
Listen.
You are you, y'all playing with me?
No.
No, no, no.
That fucking play on me?
Never.
It was a great thing that he did, but I just thought that we had friend in the show.
If we don't, then...
All right, should we play for a sleeper today, man.
I thought we don't do sleepers on Fridays.
We don't, but we didn't do sleepers on Tuesdays.
I don't know much on Tuesday.
Nigga, I'm the great disruptor.
What does it?
I disrupt this old shit, nigga.
La-la-la-la-la-blah.
I'm making those.
That's why you just out of the room with the grape.
With it what?
With them what, nigga?
Great pads.
What the one?
No room.
Are you crazy?
Ice got a sleeper.
Stop rushing.
I was letting them go.
Letting them go.
All right.
I'm going to Toronto.
So my guy Ryan Blaze.
This record is called Wright Palm Itching.
Living in the shadow of the monster within.
Wait, that's a cheerleader?
Forever fearful of its next outburst of violence.
Was watching everybody eat while I remain patient.
You cannot manifest success while your brains hate you.
Came from a block where we nickel squeezing and caves raising.
Raided the trap house, made it hot, now it stays vacant.
I ain't never so worked, not what I used to do.
Played with 38s and 380s and clutch the Rougatoo too.
But we wasn't reckless though.
We just had to even odds, grew up fast.
We ain't even see the prom.
Bought our first whip at 19, five stacks and it was all cash.
Cherry Red, Chrysler with tinted windows, I crawled fast.
Gray and Tyria, but they played me because I had hubcaps.
Shooting at the whip while we bucking back and we ducked fast.
Stupid niggas around us is not allowed.
This is not allowed.
The way we test them out, we just ask them to read aloud.
If they mumble and stutter and flush them out, the obstacles the way I ain't finding another
route.
Wow.
I feel my right palm itching.
Money's coming to me believing my mom's thinking.
Hood and tuition ain't needed alarm systems.
My Muslim homie told me Korans and Psalms scriptures.
I feel my right palm itching.
Money's coming to me believing my mom's thinking.
intuition they needed alarm systems my Muslim homie told me Quran's and psalm scriptures
my potential is high but require sacrifice wish I could party and fill up my
social appetite but my daughter needs millions and I should master life have to be proud
of the current me and my after life I can't be regular and think that I'm gonna
flash some ice and turn around and say that a hundred K is my asking price you've got
to put in the work and master your craft deliver on your product before you ask
for a bag. That's why I learn to make beats and perfect my lyrics. Arrange a song. Think of the concept and engineering. Don't pay for studio time. Never will send deposits. I own my music so every dollar I make is profit. Put the studio in the house and I do it my way. Want to perfect your jump shot, you put the net in your driveway. Look how I set up my future. I'm boss-driven. No wonder why my right palms itching. I feel my right palm itching. Money's coming to me, believe,
my mom's thinking, hood and tuition ain't needed alarm systems.
My Muslim homie told me Korans and Psalm scriptures.
I feel my right palm itching.
Money's coming to me, believe in my mom's thinking.
Hood and tuition ain't needed alarm systems.
My Muslim homie told me Korans and Psalms scriptures.
And that record is right palm itching by Ryan Blades.
Sing your phones on DSPs.
Shopped the blades, man.
He bodied that.
He sounded great.
I am going to go to this
Prem and Rock Marcy project, which I
really love.
The Coldest Profession is the name of it.
It's an EP or short album.
I don't know how you want to describe it,
but this is rock markable.
It's been real about it.
Elastrous.
If you got pounds and or something.
Oh.
This shit remarkable print
Yeah
Pen out sweet shit
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
About it
The little slick remarks
I took all that shit the heart
I'm living large
So that shit come with the job
Still railing and kind
Been in the fishing rhyme
Hitting different bitches I walk from here to Wichita
Which is why I keep the stick in the ride
For the beef like we making shit gabbs
Now tell your bitch goodbye
Don't let your feelings get you tricked out of your spot
You niggas is with you it's not
willing to die, especially not about I'm some hip-hop.
It's a killing that I exhibit, but it's not an episode of pent my ride.
All I do is shine and get flied.
That's a design of hip-hop.
You can't get this feeling from any narcotic inside a zip-lock.
Shipping dock or prescription jar.
Just know that when the sled, I'm a ticking bomb.
I'm a ticking bomb.
I'm a ticking bomb.
I'm cut from a different cloth.
You can never put this on.
This could never.
Let's be real.
About it.
If you got bombs out to some.
Rock Marciano.
Let's be real about it.
If you got bombs out to some.
Rock Marciano.
Let's be real.
About it, about it.
Y.
Besides you, still gone, like a boss.
I'm killing y'all.
That's a body on the floor.
Remind me to hide the course and I get coursing wearing my talk.
I try to ignore the side talk.
If I get 25 in court and it's my swine song.
I'll be fine.
I'll be fine, mama, I'm strong.
Why I kind of saw with the time of hawk.
I was just caught side watching the next month the hawks.
Knocked your bottom haul, a lot of them fall.
I spent about 25 long in the brighter store.
I'm just trying to inspire y'all.
You're witnessing this firsthand.
It got to feel like you'll fly on the wall.
The flies of them all, I skywalk.
My closet like the mall.
That's no bow.
This ain't tug of war, but I got so much poor.
The gun clear four, but I feel bulletproof.
As DJ premier, rock Marciano, Remarkable, off the coldest profession, which is out now.
Cop it.
Ash, what you got?
Pardon me.
I'm going to...
You're right?
You got stuff?
It's a ice, yo.
I'm going to Sasha Keeble.
The song is called Heartbeat.
It might be
You're crazy
bitch
It might be
It might be rain again
Yeah
We're playing all of these sins
That you try to defend
22 hours on flights
Bitch we know you and friends
I'm used to stood at trying to try to
fucking front on me and wear out my emotions internally oh oh oh you lied or you lie
lying straight through your teeth it's clear you don't respect what I've done after all
these years the moment I try to move on you just reappear and nothing about this feels sincere
Because I can feel your heart heart beating out of your chest
You're trying to find the best way to twist my words next party this you
Since you get got me back so
Don't play with it don't play with it
You've been trying to slut on anyone you came
Don't think silence means I don't understand
Thank you got me blowing in the wind
The wait now you really just a fan
Oh huh
The new bitch told me everything she already exposed you
Told me how she cut you up and she don't want to hold you
How you fuck me over for someone who doesn't love you
But I hope it was working in the end
Oh huh
Because you lie, don't you lie like it straight through your teeth it's weird
Stay pussy black and me with all your fake asses
In the moment I try to move on you just free up here
And nothing but you feel sincere
Because I can feel your heart beat, beat, teeth out of your chest
You trying to find the best that way you pull, who twists
With my words next
All these excuses
You get got me back so hard.
So don't play with you.
Don't play with it.
All right.
Sasha Keeble.
Fire.
Heartbeat.
That shit is super hard.
She's amazing.
That was great.
She's fucking amazing.
Big Mel, what you got for us today?
Jid was not lying
when he said his album
was a contender for best rap
album of the year. It's fucking
incredible. It's so good
and I'm playing
wholeheartedly off of it. It's Jid
Tide Allis 9 and Black. It's fucking
fire. It is. That is one of the best
records on that album. Good shit now.
Jay, what up, boy?
Good.
Noop, no, no, no, no,
Joe Biden.
Play the game by the call don't change on the game
No you roll never trade for my soul won't betray my bros
Into my baby baby don't you go
I don't want you say so long so long
Let's be unafraid to where this don't
It's Candy Rainy
Never switch up on me don't change
Don't switch up on me
Don't switch up on me
No
No switch up on me
No
Just me
Love you take
Love me
Oh
Oh I need me
Don't switch up on me
Don't switch up on me
Don't switch up on me
Trust me, love me, love me, holy.
I've been counting my blessings and spinning them too.
I know to keep it solid on the other side seeing it through.
Never switch on me, this ain't no multiplayer.
Mobile racer.
Pick your mood up, party favor.
Red and green lane, do we stop a go?
Rev the engine, then I locked the door.
I guess on this road that cannot control,
releasing the reins, felt like a fetish that needed the pain.
I needed the pain
You gonna regret if we do it in vain
I ain't trying to hold no grudge
I ain't trying to lose no love
They play roles like call time
Cross lines and we all fly
Another chain
Pick inside
Make a play for this far
What is Ait is all
For the plane in the sky
For my gang I thank God
Everything we prayed for us
We was looking at the same stars
Now we're riding in the same cars
And if the world is all for you
It's just like they're out for me
Don't know what we're about to do
Just like Thelma and Louise
Just like you need house and food
Just like you need air debris
So high act is out to do
Seen so much you can't believe
But if we're talking about the truth
This could be the proof, I'm right to rule
Chilling with the crew crashed in the coop, crash in the coop,
Cache, ban the coop, clean at the cash dash, I can loot
Heaven's in the bad we've been playing few
I've been living fair like been on a loop
Look out for my back like I do for you
You niggas with your side, bitch is bird brains, niggas brandy, keep the same game, like your run dead.
Tell them lay, niggas, move along so you see the snakes when you do your long kick.
If you love me, tell me when I'm wronged.
If you love, you should play this song then.
You're my baby coming put it on it, long as you ain't being phony, on it.
Don't switch up with me, don't switch up on me, no.
Never switch up on me, never switch up on me, no.
Just me, love tea, love me, oh, heartily.
Don't switch up on me, don't switch up on me, never switch up on me, never switch up on me,
no.
Just me, love, tea, love me, oh, already me.
That's J.I.D. Tide Dollar Signed, Black, wholeheartedly.
That Jit album is absolutely incredible.
It is.
It is.
It's like the best albums of the year all came out like in the last like month.
I was going to say that second half.
Yeah.
It's like that last month.
It's overwhelming, but I'm not mad.
I'm glad we got here.
I'm glad we got here.
This is a jump ball.
I don't know who goes next.
I'll go last.
You want to go last?
You have a seniority. You go.
Oh, shit.
We should have let you go first.
Oh, yeah, go ahead.
You should have.
This record is Crash Out Remix from Light
featuring Friday and Meek Mill.
Oh, shit.
Said I'm letting go.
Finding me time.
Let she go.
Swimming on the deep side.
Fuck you.
Pussy, you ain't never leaving me.
We're in this shit forever.
She said fuck you
You ain't never leaving me
I feel your shit no better
Pressure
That's up
Pressure
Tras up
So good
I should have
Knew that it came with
Smart mouth
Attitude
Left folks
Told myself I put up with your shit
Because your ex could
Everything that's wrong with you
Your ex did
You took out baggage
And you gave it to your next name
Look inside my mirror and I said
see myself as that name. Your homie said she'd see me with a bitch that was my step
sister. And you knew that was my step sister. And you knew that was my step sister. Still you had
a nerve to go question. And that's the type of shit made me think less of you. Oh, you like to
deflect when I'm addressing shit. And that's just unacceptable. You said it's better if we moved on
told me best wishes. As if you really want what's best for me. Say I don't love you because I
I told you to leave and then you left and she lied you to leave for real.
Said I'm letting go.
Finding me time and she go.
Swimming on the deep side.
Fuck you, pussy.
You ain't never leaving me.
We're in this shit forever.
She said, fuck you.
You ain't never leaving me.
I feel your shit no better.
Pressure.
Pressure.
Pressure.
Pressure.
Pressure.
Girl, I think you like this love better when we be making up
It's like you choose violence every time that you wake up
Said you want a piece of mind that you had enough
But when it's up what you were stuck
You get in your fear to say your words you can't take back now
30 minutes later how you want me to blow your back out
The only reason a lot is toxic shit
That's when your pussy had his best now
Ain't no I'm about to post down
You listen to your friends selling you lies and then you buy it
Don't tell me where they've been and what all the mansions is they should try it
My auntie told me you go looking for shit there you go find it
If it's me and you will get the rug then I won't hide it
Because I made this when we had in the more days
I want to fight for it I'm talking about teenager
Back then it was only us 25 said for juice hug in the back of your mama room
First time that we made love
That's when we ain't getting no fuss
I know that I fucked up but I know that you need my love
But you say
Crash out.
Crash out.
Uh.
This that crash out.
This that crash out.
It's so good that made me lash out.
Fucking in Waikiki off how biggie till we pass out.
I want you come see me.
I go CC on you cash out.
When I see it with that goofy I almost spazzed out.
Kevin P.
You love that bitch straight on us.
She was trying to get next to me.
Heard you out on leg going up.
Tweaking out the ass to see.
Bro was like, sure they throwing you off and I'm like,
definitely is bad bitches.
Nigs get behind the bands.
Can't get in touch with me.
me I'm letting go finding me time I try to test her to find out she lies she like fuck
you pussy you're never leaving me I want to see your phone and let me see if you don't
want let me see to let me be trying to be real you keep talking while I'm talking let me speak
hard to be thorough when you're living like I live especially me in the free world she
keep lying like I'm regular in London I got three girls that a crash out by meek mill
My Philly chick had three on the K, I took it to three mill
She still ain't be real and I still want me that pussy up
Cause I don't hit no females and I block doing everything
But now I want her email
She go swimming on the deep side
Fuck you pussy you ain't never leaving me
We're in this shit forever
She said fuck you ain't never leaving me
I think your shit no better
Crashout, Crashout, Crashout, Crashout,
so good.
As Light, Crash Out Remix
Featuring Friday, Meek Mill.
That shit fires.
I was on his features as you.
Meek.
I would like to see a project.
I would like to see a little project,
a little EP, Meek Friday.
From Philly right there?
I'm from Philly.
I would like a Black and Jid project too
while we're on this up.
That would be fire too.
That would be.
Yeah, that would be fire.
Salute.
Salute.
Mark?
Since you played
the other,
the Vic Minster John.
The record that you wanted to play my bad.
Yeah, it's all good.
I like this whole album.
So I'm going to go with No More Old Men,
chance to rapper featuring Jamila Woods.
I was in need.
I was in need.
I remember a long time for.
I remember a long time for.
This shit is nice.
Yeah, darn
They say shy don't
And the little kids don't got a chance no more
They ain't even trying to free the old man no more
One day it won't be no old man no more
Mr. Darden used to take the bus over from hostage
Mr. Harper used to be so exhausted
exhausted. The barbershop bustling bootleg lacrosse fest. Forget the DVDs. They
trying to get that golf drip. Freckles by fulgles and can't go hats. Spinning stories
about blocks that they can't go back. Singing songs about the women that they can't hold back.
They used to rub them on the hair that they can't grow back. Clippers buzzing, crying grand
baby boy cousin. The first cut little man quit all that fussing. God the father may love
ya, the world doesn't. That's how I learned to put my dudes up and play the dozens.
Lessons in the strategies of love and war. Chess boys in King Magazine.
It's a lot less love than it was before
It's a lot less old man than it was before
I said we go live till I had turned wide
No law can find our names
And when we run no one's facing us
Street lights on the kids
Don't come back on me
They're on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and I don't
They say shy don't dance no more and the kids don't even got a chance no more
They ain't even trying to free the old man no more pretty soon it won't be no old man no more
I danced with my father Luther Van der Ross
We played catch so much
I turned to Randy Moss
I had uncles all up and down
79th with his boys bedding on
Floyd every fight
Cold beers and cigar smoke
Pellico's card decks and some harsh jokes
Jacks when they cars broke
Sleepers have a separate rooms for years
when they hearts broke
So at least somebody there if they start strove
I used to play street fighter
With my play cousin
Now the streets are how you playing with your real cousin
They said the world didn't love me
And it still doesn't
I guess that real old love
wasn't real was it the president's past the future is sick the culture gave us cut out
life-size funeral kicks rich your instincts nigger act like you forgot it's the four black
command this man you know what we rock it goes one watch your health that's your wealth two
watch your brother that's yourself three watch your home that's your door four if they want it we go
to war in the distant future the twilight of our lives contains all the last the highlights
of our lives the knowledge that can help a young man go forth for the day you don't see these old
Man no more
I said we'll be able to turn right
Till I can find out there
Look at find our name
And when we run
No one's chasing us
String lights on the kids
There's always come back
On and on and on and on
I know we go
And on and on and on
We don't let it ride fucking
We don't let it ride fucking
Yeah, it's fire
On and on and on and on
You know
Oh my head turn wide
Oh my
Oh my name
Oh my name
Fire.
Wow.
That is no more old men, chance to Mila Woods.
Those two might make me go.
Fire.
I'm listening to that album now.
I'm listening to the ones I leave it.
I ain't been the biggest chance fan, but from what I heard, that's enough for me to go give it to listen.
The album is tough.
I only gave it the one listen, but it sounded great.
There's a couple of records that I can do without, but that's always a little long.
This is about three albums.
Three records I gave.
That's fine.
But it's 18 songs.
Oh, no, that's great.
I'll take it.
I'm going to definitely check it out.
Thank y'all for that.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm a damn sure what.
Good to hear a chance again, man.
Yes.
Good show, y'all.
Yeah.
Great, great show.
Excellent.
And great job, flip.
Thank you.
Thank you, thank you.
We're not being sarcastic.
Yeah, you'd be hosted, man.
You mean it?
They mean it.
You sure?
Yes, we love when you're A mic.
We do.
We talk a lot when it's time to leave.
Shut the fuck up.
You sound like Joe right now.
Thank you, Bell.
You know I like me at my back.
Hey, yo, man, we did it, y'all.
Thank you for tuning in.
Um, what do you guys doing this weekend?
Huh
Nick, hey, yo, talk
I know we're about to
I'm gonna go see Eric
Robeson
No, not Erica but Badu
Eric Robeson
Eric Robeson
He's performing this weekend
So me and some of the girls
Are gonna go see him
How many
How many uh
Five of us, I want to say
And then we're gonna go to like a speakeasy
I know what time of you on
Hey, say it's a speakeasy
Yeah like watching
You know watching live music
And then enjoying each other's company
At a speakeasy
That's a vibe
I think that's...
I hope y'all have fun, I hope y'all have fun.
Hey, what you do this weekend?
Well, you're going to switch it out to the sea.
You got to switch it every once in.
What you doing?
Now, this is my last weekend with it in, so I'm...
Yes, I know, I know.
I'm being home.
Read the Bible?
Tell your sister call me, yo.
I don't know, she's tight.
Nah, she good, she good, she's talking shit.
No, I'm gonna be chilling.
Be chilling.
Take this weekend easy.
You have sex again as soon as it come up?
No.
I feel a-a-lion.
A man, man.
What about you, bro?
What?
You going to ask you.
You know what?
What you're doing this weekend?
You're going to roll him up.
Yeah, right.
Put a little tie in this.
Come on, yo.
What you doing?
I ain't doing shit.
Preping for next week?
A little bit of work shit, yeah.
Oh, yeah, you got to do you.
Recite the shit in the mirror and what I'm going to say?
You wearing the suit at Invest Fest or are you going to wear this?
The strongest.
Receiver.
That's right.
That's fucking right.
What's up, man.
What you doing?
What you doing?
I'm chilling, man.
I'll be in a pool or some shit.
I ain't got no plans.
Getting ready for vacation, man.
Okay.
You're going to vacation?
Yeah.
On Jamaica.
Right.
Not damn right.
Miz.
All nasty shit.
I got a...
My wife can bad time most weekend, so I'm going home doing home shit.
Clearing deer shit out the yard, fucking,
and potty training my son.
I'm doing a 72-hour man.
method starting no no pepper nothing yeah just like that just nature boy all
weekend me let me know you need the nanny I think you're gonna say if you need no whoa
yo I think you're going through the diaper situation that I don't you had some tips
oh shit I'm not doing shit man I'm chilling I'm keeping it light I'm keeping it like I'm keeping
it like he's all right now you're crazy I got some for I got some of them all listen y'all
Thank you for tuning in, man.
Remember, the baddies are insecure.
The broke women want to travel.
I hope you enjoyed the show just as much as we enjoyed getting into.
Excuse me.
Can we talk?
I just, you want to do it?
Do it?
No, you got a playboy apartment.
Dude, you started walking out and I'll jump on your back.
I'm not doing this weekend.
What you're doing this weekend?
I'm not doing nothing.
I got a bad leg already.
You can't jump on.
Hopefully, hopefully you enjoyed the show.
Remember, the baddies are insecure, the broke women wants to travel
and something else want to happen.
Close-minded women want to travel.
Stagnant women want to travel.
Stagnant women want to travel.
Yeah.
Keep a nigger like Corey off your lawn, please.
That niggas is coming seriously.
Hey, yo, we appreciate y'all seriously, man.
Joe, we love you.
Shout to Mama Faye.
Shout to Papa Joe.
Shout to the whole family.
Yeah, man.
I love you guys.
Thank you guys for allowing me to sit here
and lead you guys and trust me to do so.
It means a lot.
It helps with my confidence.
As they say, I'm insecure.
Congrats to Ian again.
Congratulations.
Yes, to the years.
I love Ian and Jules.
Remember rock and roll lives on in all of us.
You're going to get flea on your chest next?
Yes.
We love y'all.
And I'm out.
Yeah, no.
Come on, man.
You know, it's a dangerous, you know.
You're all right now.
You're here.
You're here now.
It's just dangerous.
You're in our now.
Entertainers.
I'm the stupid.
And contagious.
You're going to want this morning.
I'm not.
No, no, e, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no to draw button.
JVP, JPP, why are you to be without the JVP?