The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 858 | "Man Of The Night"

Episode Date: September 6, 2025

In the latest episode from the JBP, the room starts with their thoughts and the internet’s reactions to Drake’s ‘ICEMAN’ episode 3 (17:52) before turning to Latto & Ice Spice’s new record ��Gyatt’ (38:53). Cardi B is using photos from her court case for her upcoming album which leads to the crew discussing marketing in music (56:57), songs everyone hits the dance floor for (1:12:00), and Druski’s latest skit has caused some backlash (1:27:18). The JBP then shares their thoughts on Ciara adding the ‘Wilson’ last name to her and Future’s son (1:32:30), Kawhi Leonard’s endorsement deal (1:51:21), Floyd Mayweather and Mike Tyson are slated to participate in an exhibition fight (2:10:45), the top-50 greatest female rap albums of all-time (2:47:40), and much more!  Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden 

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Enjoy the show. Yo, this is an outside outfit? No, no, no, no, no. That's your, specifically your outside outfit. Somebody tell the audience what we're talking about. Isher's outfit. This is my go-off? We looked at Isch's outfit.

Why we're talking about Isis' outfit? This is my go-outside outfit. Wait, they got to know why, how we got there. No, we ain't got to all that. Oh, that's all. We ain't got to all. We start bad. We start bad.

That's crazy. But he do look like he going outside. Listen, when light-skinned niggers, specifically with Hayes, eyes ish that got that had money in the 90s and got women had

their way with the ladies like was a man of the night what called you a Harley man I'm serious a man of the night you you were a man of the night you know the man of the night

he was selling that you were selling beef he was selling beef he was selling beef what did you try on the camouflage shorts with something fly on top All white ups and some, a fly top that has preferably red and white, he's going out. He was a little attention.

He, yeah, yeah. He's feeling bad. Feeling cute might delete later. You know, this guy is nuts. How many lollipops you got in your pocket? Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. You know, you know.

That's it. You play. Yo, what if I just started out of it? That'll be better than eating the orange peals at the bar. So say you. It's cool, though. Don't do that again. when I'm around, man.

Yeah, what's up? We got to step out. We got to remind her. My girl just left. I'm supposed to be fake and sad, but if you're going out, got it. And then if two go out, Squire got to go out. That's true.

I'm outside. See? I hear you. Good luck to him, my fellas. See, outside would probably go smoother if I was married. You are out your money. I don't know. You'll sit your ass down.

Seriously. No, man, I might be able to be like, you know, I'm out tonight. Okay, that's fine. Let me know how that works for you. No, no, no, no. Try tomorrow. Then when you do it tomorrow. Man, I'm not married.

Anything get me in trouble. Steuben as Amani. What am I did? I'm taking a shower. He heard a voice, a voice from the hallway. Hey, Amani bought them girls to the pond. Like, oh, shit. It's like, yo, this don't have nothing to do with me.

You got in trouble for that? No, but I had a talk that I didn't want to have while I was in the shower or wherever I was. That's when they catch you at the shower would be the crazy. No, she might have been a target

or something. I don't remember. It's all a blur. She yelled all the way down. It's all a blur. Oh, you know. What was your response, Lord? What was your response, Lord?

I said, Amani had them girls stuffed in the hallway closet and I didn't see them until they were the truth. Shit. Yeah, that was the truth. The truth.

It was true. But the truth, when she initiates the questions, the truth don't ring off like the truth. Like, it must be coming through different speakers. You're supposed to volunteer that. It's a different record. Yeah, that's what she said. It's accused it to her.

All the pillow talking that was supposed to come in there during that. This is good. That is exactly what she said. Why you ain't tell me? Who the fuck is thinking about? I got 90 million things on my brain that are of important. The least of which being Amani's friends from about a town here. She won't start using funny.

words with me. So you were familiar? No. No. No. Anyway, I'm talking shit. I love you, baby. And I'm super sad that my baby is going.

There you. And if it's just going out, though, I'll fight through it. And if y'all two were going out, I would like... I mean, then the squad got to go out. Naturally. You ain't get your permission slip, sign. The squad got to go out. That's what I just said.

That's my permission slip. No, if you bring your girl, I got to I didn't say break my girl I said the squad. Oh, like, guys night? Yeah. You know the dollars going out? Hey, guys night. Guys night. Look at my face.

Guys night. All right, it's time to have some fun. If we're out, we're out. We don't have phones at. Literally, they have a good time. Look at Mark. What's up, Mark? What's up? What's up? What's on? I feel, Mark.

I ain't slept in about three, four days. What's going on with you? Yeah, what? Come on. Let's have an intervention. Yeah, word. You do got to squinty. school night school themselves for a couple to get a substitute teacher but no no no it's been work stuff

and then my son's been six so I've been in the hospital with him then I then he's Is he all right? He's like at 75% now He was hooked to oxygen before But now he's breathing on his own He's good he's home

And he's a complete asshole man And there's no other way to say it No I've been saying that all morning He only get in the hospital on work days Yo, who are you telling? He back running? Yo, he tore the office up the day so bad. I really think he needed more medicine

and they just, they were passive aggressive at that point. He's fine. And they sent him back to school. But he tore the whole office up, man. He's been up since 5 a.m. I'm going to do the same thing, but with cats. I'll trade you any of the day.

I'm allergic to cats. I'll trade. Yeah, man. So I just ain't been sleeping. That's all. And I had to do a little writing wave yesterday. So, you know. so it's just a lot no sleep

I'll be all right I see you with your old school coffee I got everything I got coffee I got juice I got them donuts I sent everything over you laugh out something

I see A little helpers he's so good coffee juice donuts that a word that was that was yesterday that was I said I said my writing way

he said he's got a guy he said he's better than binges yeah I didn't want to do that on my wave I didn't want to be that guy Flip, what's up, man? Chilling, what up, baby?

How are you feeling? You good? I feel good. I feel good. You look good. Thank you. Viral flip. Yeah, man.

I got friends hitting me up. Yo, flip good, man. Yeah, my parents' ass. Oh, damn. Once the parents get involved in flip, come on, man. I know, I know. I mean, you know, we'll talk about it whenever if I want to, whenever it's time.

Right now, man, it's just, it's good to see y'all. That's all. I'm so happy to see y'all. You said you're stressing with a cat. I got two cats. Kittens. Kittens. Two kittens.

You fight like Blanc. Terrorist. Like who? What? Like Blanca? Like Blanca? Like Blanca from street fighter. That little movie did was the Blanca?

Oh, yeah. I'm just curious. Did you think that he didn't fight like Blanca? Yeah. I never thought about it. He got on the ground, hit him with the electric shop. No, I like this. Who's our street fighter characters?

Yeah, that is her. Yeah, Flip was Blanca. And it worked. Loud-mouth-ass, nigga. Right? They were a nigga loud. You got to put him down. Electric.

You got the little electric. There's something wrong with y'all. You know that. There's something wrong with you? No, there's something. I watched it at V about 35 times. Yeah, I know. It was a crazy day.

That was before you came out on Tuesday? Lean back. Yeah, it happened on Monday. Then I came Tuesday. He didn't want to tell us about. Oh, that happened on Monday. No. No.

I didn't want to talk about that. That shit was Labor Day was Monday. Then work was Tuesday. I was here. Oh. The foot is dropped while we was doing Patreon. So yeah. That's crazy.

It is what it is. It is what it is. Don't let the parents call. You know, mad people call. Listen, mad people call me out here getting their fights, Nick Druski out here running the world. Yeah. Yeah.

That's what I want to put on the world. That's his journey. Oh, we definitely got to talk about. White face. You're doing white face. That's what I was hilarious. I knew it was bad when Pierce Morgan called me today that talked about it on Monday.

I said it up again. I'm busy anyway that day. I got to do something else. But I would have because I want to take that on. But the video was in. That's why you really be going up to you. I think Mark. It'd be a challenge to your fucking vernacular.

Yeah. It's like a fight in the park. It's a spar. Do you feel like Van Lathan is trying to run with some of your sociopolitical Oh, he even took a couple of spots. That little t-shirt he had on at CNN?

He went little t-shirts now, too? If he gets little jeans now you're my flotter. Now you're selling my shirt. Nah, Ben had a t-shirt on CNN that said, slavery is white history. White history.

Us, how we survive slavery is black history. And I was, I just ordered this shirt. I was like, that would be marked sitting right there, him and Pierce or somebody. Yeah, it's cool. He got the spot.

I'm proud of him. Nigger robbed your punk ass. Give me your shit. Give me that, nigga. My shit, man. That's crazy. That's why you can't tell your guy friends when you lose a gig. Why?

Double back. Right. You start behind you, right? You heard you need a host. Nikes start being a happy hour with the HR people. Well, that's the double back. started making phone calls to put everyday struggle in other places and talk all of my friends. The niggas sounded ecstatic.

They sounded like they was having the time of their life. Like, no, man, no room for that over here. So, you knicks happy. I got fired on. Yes. Yeah. It makes me hate us. Yeah.

I had you on a lock back of the days, man. Oh, the good old days. Anyway. We ready? I think of it. Yeah. Let's get it. Let's get it, man.

Y'all took here all y'all emergencies. It's been a long week in my tweets. It's been a long week in my tweets. Wait, I have another question. Is everyone here for the day? The day? Yeah. Who's here for the day?

Who's not here for the day? Who's leaving at 1 o'clock? Whose kid missed the bus? Whose kid had a seizure? Who's kid? Uh-huh-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b. Mr. Secret man over here. My girl ain't here.

Everybody could. Yeah. For the day. For the day. Just for the day. Yeah. And if you're not, could you like maybe let us know, like, well, again, we're going to, and we're going to, oh, wait.

Yeah, all that Irish goodbye shit that y'all keep doing, I had a long week messing with y'all. No, I ain't do with Irish goodbye. I let Corrig. That's helpful. I texted you at Ian. I told me, I was like, E-Jump in because. You were in front of me.

Yeah, we were alive, and I said, I did the. Yeah, see, we need a more, we need a more, we need a more pronounced. Got you. Yeah. Hey, I got a go, guys. Hey, you know what else I'm noticing? A few of y'all are getting poorer at doing your other work here. Like, it used to be smooth.

It used to be cool. Y'all niggins to take a walk down by a little plant. Yo, the she rock, bricks. Do it. And come right, y'all come right back on it. Flip a goat walk to the side. the side, hit publish, doop do, edit some shit, walk right back.

Mark will go talk to peer now. Just be out. It'd be in the middle of the A block. Nick, just get out and walk. Yo! Oh my God. It's cool. We have a good time today.

Yes, we're doing it. Let's see, let's see, let's see. Why not? Oh, wait. Mike check one, two, one, two, one, two. You know what I mean? Kind of got a fake little heat wave.

I was excited yesterday with all that rain and thunder except for during the football game. Yeah, fuck up my dog. Yeah, that. I ain't young enough for the football game to stop for an hour. Yeah, it worked. And I still be awake. I woke up, the game was off.

Damn. Ended the same way all y'all games in, though. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Shout to the patronies and all that. Oh wait for the ladies, oh wait for the ladies. Let me tell you what. You know what I mean?

Just the music I'm gonna get dressed to if I should go out tonight Ishgo out tonight I'm letting this blast through the Sonos. Hey, I might send a couple texts out, you know what I mean? Hey, wait a minute, wait a minute, he go. Let's put this party started quickly, right? Let it all my seat. Yeah, let it all.

40 and up, 40 it up. Shout to the parents out there. Set it off on the left. All of cheering, anybody is still traveling out there. Say it all. Say it all. Hey, wait a minute, Ingo. Oh, this party started quickly.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, go. Bye. Get it on. I suggest y'all. Let it on. Let it all. Send it on. Come on. Say it off.

Just something about you. Yeah. You're scared now. Right? You're going to get me. Do you go by him. Yo, did that Justin album end up coming out? Yeah.

It did. Yeah. I like... Bebibs, the Bebbs. Oh, yeah. There's another one? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know.

It came out last night. It was supposed to admit that. It came like three. Oh, shit. I didn't know. Okay, good. Good. It's pretty good.

It's better than... Is it better than... Is it better than the last one? He combined in both albums. Oh, it's like a four tracks. Oh, it's a lot of music. But the first this is the new one. It's a...

Two hours of music? Oh, my God. Yeah, it's solid, though. I like it better than the last album. Got it. Oh, we got a little beef here Yeah, Thames is on there It's a couple good things

I'm gonna' I'm gonna move your bones Hey, I got a Florida trip I do, I'm getting a fuck out of it. No, Joe! No, Joe Ben! No, so daddy! It's hard, dude, is this, this, this is, this, this is, this, is...

You are so fish. Who is that? Who is that? Who is that? Is Mark the Byrd Hill? Pistling? Pisting? Clip. Flip. Flip. Game over. Flip. Flip is here. My man. What episode is this? 858. Welcome to episode 858 of the Joe Button podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favorite host Joe Button here with some really amazing people. Flip is here, issues here, ICE is here, Mark is here, Parks is here, Poist here, Corey is here, Erickson is here, Savon,

and Tann are here. here by remote last but certainly not Tanner is here Tanner's here I never met him before Tanner is actually here Tanner is actually here I know he's a great guy

so Tanner is here in real life Savon is here by remote and last but certainly not least each and every one of you guys are here what's popping what's popping gang's all here how we doing how we feeling hey shit

feeling good feeling good oh don't forget this episode is brought to you by fuel by power by prize picks prize picks gang you all right what's going on what can I exploit

What can I agitate? Well, let's start in a place we never start. Drake. Or agitate. Or agitate, right? Yeah. Last night, Drake put out a new single, sort of. Well, he did a live stream for an hour and a half.

Which he's been doing. This is his new rollout. Yes, his Iceman rollout. And in it was a song. There was a couple songs. A couple songs. But there was one that people really kind of felt strongly about. But the hour and a half to me was,

was surprising. It was the least interesting hour and a half I've spent in a really, really long time watching something. And I was locked in because, you know, a lot of coffee. Sure. Yeah. I can see how that might lock you in. Yeah. Triple espresso. Yeah, triple. But as I was watching it, I was kind of waiting for something interesting to happen. It was him kind of just driving around. And you heard some of the songs from the party album. You heard some stuff. You heard a new one. You saw him hugging this really beautiful woman sitting in his room with interesting art. I mean, it was beautiful. Aesthetically, it was beautiful, but it was like directionless. Content-wise. Content-wise. It just wasn't saying much of anything. Which is what all of these

have been so far, by the way. I've watched them all by watching, I mean, scrolling through all of the absolutely nothing to get to the things that happen, which are minimal. And it's, yeah, it's what it was. It was absolutely nothingness. I'm trying to think of it. See, I think That's dope. Do you? Retention. The game is retention. If I ain't even got to do it, y'all got to do all the crazy shit to keep people watching.

I could just drive around and play some old shit or some records y'all ain't heard yet, and y'all are still going to tune in. Nobody understands. I get that. You got the four Pinocchio sitting at the table. The fucking waiter come and drop ice in the plate. Like, all right, what the fuck is going on? I'm watching the shit like, oh, let me, let me, let me, what the fuck are you doing, bro?

Yeah. It was not And that's my man, he cool But I don't understand it Football game was on last night Right Yeah I don't watch football And the game

And the game pause I was watching the score Just to make sure I was gonna get a bunch of cowboy trolls In my timeline And I stayed with the Drake thing Only because the song That's just how I feel

Which I haven't heard any of these songs I want to know what y'all think about I only heard one I didn't know I have that's just how I feel There's too There's one with the

And there's this one That's how I feel was the one that everybody was responsible to Personally, before you play it, I didn't hate it. Nah, I shouldn't. It's a little too Atlanta for, it doesn't sound like anything original, right?

The flow isn't original. The content, he ain't really saying shit. But he can rap, and if you, I like when he rap. So for me, it was worth listening to, but it don't feel like that should be the third thing you release. I really like the first minute. That's fair. I really like the first minute.

Again, I'm just playing shit. We shouldn't treat it like a single thing. Yeah, don't do that. Okay. Do you want to hear some? Yes, sir. Yeah, slays your love, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm here, I'm here, okay, I'm here. Bees like this one made me feel like my soul's free.

They pay me to speak from the heart. They think that my soul's free. All of them summers and slappers, baby, you owe me For real. I'm here. Yep. Probably would slow me down if I carry my trophies. Maybe when no one's around, I rap like the old me.

I used to put chains on all of the necks of my bro skis. My OGs. And now to remember I took the chains and I broke free. I wonder how long I'll be at the top if they don't kill me. I wonder how long and take them to count out $2,000 million. Like that? Yeah. And I'm lost.

Yeah. This is the part by saying starting to fill to Atlanta for me. Yeah. And I made way too much in a week. Must be $250 at least. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, way, way, way, way, way.

Oh, y'all trick me, man. You know, audience, just so we clear, just so me and y'all are clear, I told Parks, I wasn't chiming in a nice drink shit because I didn't hear none of it. Well, too late. He stopped doing that to do that. And that's what I was saying. Man, now I play it again.

Let's go rewind. Not from the beginning, but I just need to hear that break again. There's no way that that break got approved. That's what I'm saying. Okay. I wonder how long I'll be at the top if they don't kill me. I wonder how long to take them to count out. Kill it.

Don't be. Nah, this is a whole record somewhere. Yeah, it's a whole record. That's what I did. I hope so. I think he ain't want to put the tea out to the world. He wasn't going to drop that over. But this is just how I feel is this right here.

After the break is. I'm saying, it sound like everything, it don't sound like nothing. Origin, hold up, hold up, because I need to hear you. That's just how I feel. Yeah, that's just how. And I love when they're talking away. They've been talking since 2008. This is what did I miss.

Give it to you and take it away. Yeah, this is what did I miss? That's the same thing. Yeah, a little bit. I'm good on this one. That's just how. And I went about a way for my brother. Same body but two different colors.

Let's go. And I'm like, if I get another, small price to be cat on one. All right, all right, all right. That's what I'm saying, it's not bad. It just sounds like everything else. That first shit, when I heard it, I said, Joe's going to love this. The first shit, when I first first heard it. Yeah.

That first shit came on. I was like, shit, why are they killing them? Right, right. Because it gave us 15 seconds of it. Right. That record has to exist somewhere. Yeah, it does. I hope it does.

I need it to. I hope. There's no studio that was okay with stopping that. so you can go through this to do that. That's not true. I'm not even letting y'all talk about Drake like that.

Facts. He ain't that far gone. No. But that other shit, that's just a different version of what did I miss to me. I agree with that. I don't really need that.

And that's why everybody's killed him. Kastinat went nuts. He trashed the whole stream. Yeah. He said that stream was like ass is a waste of his time. Then you had people like Rick Ross

come on and clown making videos about the song and the stream. People don't like you, yeah. Yeah, I mean, people would use it as an opportunity. If it was fired, people probably would have said nothing, but it was so disappointing. Everybody felt like they could jump on.

But this has been the streams. Like, it's been hours of nothing with two seconds of... I think people with this one in particular thought the album was coming. Yes. That's really what it was. They thought the album was coming. Was the other streams on Thursday nights? I think.

I don't remember specifically. I remember that being... We have lies. I remember the big days I'm just saying I saw a lot of talk even leading up to this oh shit

this one is the one the album's coming I don't know where they got it from but a lot of people kind of suit themselves up to think that he's dropping the album tonight let me ask y'all

so when he streams they get the analytics and all that shit from the stream I'm sure yeah he does so I think this is potentially him building back up his fan base

to see that you know when I drop are they going to support me? If niggas is willing to sit there and watch me ride around for an hour and a half and there's 70 zillion motherfuckers in my stream that means that when my album drops we kind of get him back in a public favor.

Okay. I think people are going to listen regardless when his album dropped. I think he if Drake dropped that album right this second we're hitting pause. Everybody's going to stop and listen to this album no matter what. People who love him, people who hate him, people who are looking to say

I told you he backed, people to say, look, he fell on. told you any shit. It's going to happen. He's just that big of an artist at this point. I think he's tapping into streaming is very popular. I think he's been dabbling with it, with Aiden and with Kassanad and all of them. I think that he is tapping into it and trying it out. And I think he's trying different shit from the website to the Instagram drops to the all the different, the content shit that he dropped.

Like, I think he's just trying different shit to see what works for. Amazon shit. Yeah. Like I think he's just trying shit, which kudos. This ain't working. But it's not great content to me. That's all I'm saying. He don't need the money.

I feel you about the engagement You know It's hard to say What I'm saying is I think his stature is so high I think I want him to constantly Put out high level art Same

And nothing Like if he was a different arts I mean look if you can make this much money Fuck it just do it I'm like I'd rather him I don't think about legacy for him Yeah see and I think he stopped doing that A long time ago

Yeah you're right I've been saying like yeah I think post Scorpion He ain't been doing the high level art moves I've been playing whatever games need to be played at the time. All right, they're streaming. Let me give you a bunch of songs. Let me stop making complete albums and start making

playlist where it's music for you, you, you, you, you, and you. And now the game is all of this live streaming stuff. Okay, cool, let me play that game now. I think he's just keeping up with the Tom's. As foolish as this may sound, I've never seen such a dominant artist find themselves in

such a make or break position with a album. Like, this album is very make or break, no matter what it's sales. I'm not talking about that. Yeah. It's been some. This is, I would think, it's a really important release for him,

which is probably why he's focusing on the streaming and doing it this way. Testing the water. He got some advanced analytics somewhere that's telling him to do it this way. In fairness, there hasn't been that many artists of this magnitude to even compare to, like

Mike the Beatles, I guess Eminem, you'd have to throw in there. There's not too many people where it's like, They were in this position. And it ain't, yeah, it ain't too many people that've been through what he meant to either.

Yeah, especially in this era. Yeah. It's kind of like LeBron. Yeah. You really can only compare there's nobody else to compare him to him. He did drop another song. I don't know if y'all want to hear it.

This is with Yeat. Oh, God. Yeah, fuck it. Dog House. They've taken everything from me to me up and spit me out. Big dog loves a crap. We'll tell them to search my house

I bet they find your face down Yo Shout out to that egg See a crash out Took too many pills See a crash out Oh man You'll be

I'll keep going to sound fair Don't try to get me in trouble I ain't saying it I'm tired of that little Batman voice I just want to say that I never liked it I'm tired of that Batman voice What is going on?

All right all right Please You try you force me to say it Well Distinguished panel Distinguished panel How do you guys feel Musical experts

I'm not a musical expert But I don't like that That record's not for me Yeah I'm not the target demo For that song Yeah I'm too old for that None of it sucks, it all feels like album filler to me.

None of it sounds like something that I want to hear. Outside of the... That first 30 seconds of whatever that was. Hey, if it gets much worse, I'm going to start asking to bring Yadi back to the studio. Oh, shit. They dropped the second record, too. The third one, you mean?

No, he dropped another song. They dropped him and party. Oh, yeah, the remix. The remix with Cashgo Man. We can get to that later. That shit sounded great. That's when he's driving... That shit made me look it up and...

I was like, oh, this shit is funny. That's the only thing I liked. But then when I saw was a remix, I was like, yeah. Do y'all think any of these songs will appear on whatever project is coming? Yes. No.

I do too. Yeah. I think the ones that react. Yeah, he says in the waters. That's what I'm thinking. He's going to see the reaction and he's going to just. This is live listening sessions. Bait and Switch.

I don't find these to be too far astray from what he's been doing for the past few years. So I do think they will make the album. But that stuff that he's been doing for the last part. The stuff he's been doing for the last couple of years. years hasn't kept him at the elite level that everybody holds him at. Right. He's actually

getting flack for the shit that he's been putting out the last couple years. So I think these are literally testers that he's throwing out. He got his fillers out today hearing what the responses are from the masses and I think he going to be led in that direction. So that first shit that we played that, everybody

saying it was flyer, yeah. He's going to start leaning into that direction more. If you do that, that's the drink I've always loved. Yeah. That's That's the drink I actually love. I think that shit is, what did I miss? To Joe's point, I think that second song is, well, when it pivoted, that was the same shit. Don't nobody want to keep hearing that, bro. Yeah, I agree.

Conspiracy theory last night, people were saying when the rumor that the album was coming out, suddenly Justin Bieber pops up with the picture holding up his swag two album, saying midnight. Now, I didn't come out at midnight. I came out later. I was up and listened before it. But the argument was maybe they were doing that to block Drake. The Def Jam was potentially rushing this Bieber piece out to push back against Drake and to undermine his success.

Is that a crazy theory? No. I believe it. You believe it? I don't believe that. Well, I believe it only because this is the second time. Yeah, first with clips. Clips.

First time with Clips. Now with Drake. How many Bieber audibles does. Shit. Well, I mean, shit, that's what it tells me, too. Clearly, they ain't been at Justin Bieber House in the while. I don't know who the fuck they think he is anymore. He ain't the guy

that's about to stop. He didn't stop in Drake. No, he didn't stop the clips. Yeah. He drove it up. He blocked the one, though. Maybe that's all they're trying to do. Again, to these artists today, the number one that week is like,

diamond. Oh, paid a 50 grand like Young Thug did. That's the way they treat that. done stressing off of this. Go to Chase. Pay the 50 grand. Block it. Yeah, I do believe that.

And that's why it might not have came out until three because they really wasn't prepared for it. Yeah, they put a lot of tracks. I was 44 tracks on the new Beaver. Swag 2. It's two discs. The second disc is really just

Swag 1, yeah. Never before has there been a rapper to rap as great as Drake raps. not rap great like this not great anymore for a long time that ain't never happened before dog we talked about this when he did

the scary hours three joint which was rapping you already had our we gotta rehash that but the masses ain't taped to that they don't want to hear it they don't want to hear that and again Drake ain't just rapping for one particular audience no more

I hate this I'm so tired of here now what the fuck you want I don't want to hear that. Let me speak, Ben. That album is not what we're talking about Drake rapping great. We're not like, go get alchemist and conductor. Like, he was rapping over Boy Wanda Beats greatly. He was rapping over hit records greatly.

He doesn't have to go do Boombap to. Yeah, that's scary hours to read. It wasn't, I know that you keep painting it like that, but it don't address the point. Like, he was rapping great on hit records. Yes, I agree. He ain't been making hits, period, like that since. All right, so you're not making hits And you're not rapping great

I think he's still been rapping great That's what we differ Just what you're saying There's a period And you may disagree on this You both all y'all may disagree with it I thought there was a period after the M&M show Where M had a couple of really uninspired albums

He was, no one He wraps his ass off But he had a string of albums that just weren't good And they felt uninspired to me He did Is that what Drake is now? Is he uninspired? Or is he just trying to be so strategic

That he's, that he's I think that he's trying to appeal to youth and youth culture and it's not really working because he's also 38. You don't have to try to do this. I think in an attempt to stay in that major pop star lane and

be young and appeal too young, it's backfiring, in my opinion. I agree. That's a really good point. Yeah, like the streamers have turned against him. Well, at least after episode three, they weren't a fan of episode three. Let me not say turn against. I don't know that they're a fan. It sounds like a lot of people haven't even watched the other ones

judging by the because if you saw the other ones you would have the same opinion like he's just it was nothing for an hour however long this shit was with a song somewhere yeah this is the same formula he's used for all three of these icemen I wouldn't expect to get so much love from the streamers

because I would expect them to view me as competition that part too yeah yeah listen I'm reserving anything that I have to say on the matter until I hear the project a lot of y'all how they already know where I stand

on all things Drake. It hasn't changed. I'm just waiting on the music. And I want to be clear, like, because we get the flack for being haters up here. We love Drake. We want to see and hear great Drake. Like, that's all that it is. I was telling Parks outside

that, yeah, I'm not feeling any of this music, but Drake not being great hurts. Yeah. It hurts the ecosystem. Yeah. Like, things are not the way they're supposed to be if he's not

great niggas ain't making as much money as they would normally make yeah listen I follow the excitement the moments

everybody everybody having like that art what the most deaf call him target everybody having that store to go to where you could find

you can get a song for me you can get a song for you can get a song for you that's why I don't like that shit that ICE keeps saying

about scary about oh he's uh oh he's trying to appeal to the kids dog target got shit for the kids and for adults for me yeah so yeah but we'll see yeah but if i'm chasing both could be true though both would be true and speaking to the the content piece like i follow a lot of football uh podcast dolphins because i'm a dolphins fan and they're unbiased you know just reporting but they always say like it's good when the team does good more people care about this shit so like it's kind of the same concept here.

Like, we want to see him do good. To your football analogy, Drake is the Cowboys. You ain't a Cowboy. I'm about to say you ain't on Cowboys that's to death today, buddy. I said one thing. Drake is the Cowboys with the NFL going against them.

Exactly. It could be fucking July. It could be May and Cowboys be on ESPN. Okay, that's who you said. Even when they lose. Even when they ain't shit, guess what? The headlines are the Cowboys.

When the Cowboys are great, guess what? headline is the Cowboys. He's the fucking Cowboys. And from a analogy standpoint. I just hate the Cowboys. Man, not just that. Drake is fighting an uphill battle right now. He is. Like, the damn near the music industry has turned against him. And he's trying to

navigate through this. He ain't never been here before. Ever. Because he's been the darling since he's been crowned. So now this is all brand new shit. It's new territory for him. I agree. I think the solution is slaps, man. Yeah, sure. I agree. It's great music.

It's always slaps. Where's 40? Word. There's an article in the Rolling Stone I haven't read to get. I'm curious to know where 40 is. Because I feel like 40 being absent or seemingly absent is maybe kind of why we're getting some of this. I could be wrong. Shit, give me Quentin Miller again.

Yeah. At this point, shit, I'll take fucking who's shorty to work the head off? Courtney. Give me Courtney from Hooters. Go find the damn Blackberry. These wraps. this is not it I'm interested

I want to see how the younger ones feel about it like that's what because it seemed like he'd be playing to them like I'm fine if it's not for me if I'm not your intended audience but now whoever you're intended to I want to hear what they're like that go home

nigga how about that niggas ain't going home enough go home you ain't making them songs from the embassy your house too fly for you to even lie and say yeah I came up with this in my living room No, you didn't. You're somewhere you ain't supposed to be

coming up with this bullshit. I don't live room, yo. The great room. The great room. The great room. Yeah, he don't have a living room, no. But, yeah, go in there. And be great?

Yeah, I don't know where he had. Listening to somebody he listened to. Anyway, what else? What else? What else we got? Who wants to argue about ice spice and a lotto? Let's do it. All right, I'm gonna play it.

Please. And. Yeah, right? Let you all. We'll let y'all know. Let y'all know before I cut it on. Cook all? I like it.

Let y'all know before it even come on. So y'all know what side of the fence I'm on. I like it. They're going to never change. Unsurressed. 45 or 50? It ain't going to matter. I like this little song right here.

Okay. Okay. I see y'all, I see y'all thinking about it right now I'm trying to see what we're going y'all are unsure lot of start you know what we're going oh oh my man be casting me he putting a pad in my bag I shit on show but I ain't into the skate I turn around and thick shit has into the chat little you're back same dick different night bitches can't relate can't no makeup in a bunny this that's still gonna get eight

Bip mom ain't hard to find Bish, I'm still in the A This whole think I forgot But bitch who's still on the plate I see you're gonna have mercy Shake real curvy My man by me Stop words, he hurt me

I got that She got that Stop playing with Big Lotto He want that He knew that I see y'all, it's okay All right, everybody stop for a second Come on, it's okay

It's okay I like that I'm rolling Yeah, but y'all like fighting yourself. No, not at all. I'm over here. It's hard. Everybody has to have the birds like you.

They're going to do a taraducto. You're such a 20-year-old bird. But this should make you want to go outside, though. He'd be outside. I don't be outside. That'd be giving me in trouble, too. I don't be outside a lot. All right.

But if we go outside tonight. And that come on? Oh, I'm going to ask for that. You're going to make that come on. I'm going to request. Did that come on? The jukebox, right? How do y'all feel about Lotto and Ice Spice,

deading whatever? I think they had. I think it's fly. I like that. I think it's great. I like that. I think it's wonderful. Yeah.

I watched this several times. Oh, you watched the video, huh? Yeah, I like that. That was a good coffee last day. You can't see coffee like this. Shout out to Todd Lil. He was in the video. I mean, too over some coffee, man.

Yeah. Yeah. Be careful now. Stella. Let's hear ice spice, though. Yes, for sure. A bitch like me walking. I'm turning heads.

They like, cat. Puffing on with that cat. I'm a good. Bad bitch always pouting Nix be so damn thirsty Trying to jump heffers I'm spouting I'm about the bruce to the yacht

Like a made back chart cut As I keep bouncing Nick thing with spices I'm always in the mix On top so what I'm his bland That gap On his pan That gap on fucking

It's planned It's all right You're gonna make it up It's fucking You know Hey a little bit I'm not I'm not

I'm not You gotta let the song play Why y' y'all We murdered Digger I'm not mad at ice spice I just said I'm not mad at ice spice

We all fucking with it. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's okay we could say up here that we fucking with the ice spice verse too. I am. I just said it. I just said that. You know what was twerking up on the table or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're like, hell of shit. I'm not doing that. I'm bringing back. My bad bitch always palpins it. Makes be so damn thirsty. Trying to jump heftors from this fountain. I thought I brought the bruce to the yacht like a made-back truck cut as the active bouncing. Big thing with spices.

I'm always in the mix on top so without me is bland. That gap on his hand. That Gat fuck up his plans. This Gack going to make me that band. This Gat going to make him a man. He got behind and he like Dan. He like, let's keep on doing that dance. Fine shit.

I like fine shit around me too. Rich bitch, really live in life without no rules. No, no, no, nigger. Ever was able to tell me what I can do. Big Spice ain't never worry about how another whole move got. I got that. I like the video too. The video, like the old WWF.

logo they put in the ring I thought it was dope two ladies coming together that had issues that came in there it was great yeah I like that yeah Mark

you're relaxing you're good coffee yeah this shit was heavy she was heavy she didn't wait again she got me through the night

she got off those that big niggins she went back she got the honeybuns niggins she eating honeybuns zebra teats tweaky niggie look at Marks, Mark.

Oh, she was hanging, huh? Nuddy buddies. Yo, you see? I'm, I'm great. Wait, hold up. Oh, she has a fat ass, yo. No, wait, stop. But we expect that from you.

We, we, we, we, we, we're... Mark, about to bust. And I'm ain't the jeans that can hide it. Oh, man. Nah, but I saw a lot of people picking up the video. They both look great. They did. to the side, even though I did enjoy Lotto bringing like 20 Suburbans to Ice Spice Block.

I like Dead and the Beef. And I like the song. Yeah. I like this. I like this song. I do. I'm not mad at this. Shut out, I'm watching beef. I ain't mad at it. Now, this ain't better. This to me is not better than Wop. No. No. But it's Woppish. That's a good song. It's Wop light. Nigger, when Wop was out. Wop went crazy.

I went crazy. When Wop was out. Everybody here was faithful when Wop was out? Yes, yes. Extra. Even more. Me too. Me too.

Boy. Me too, y'all. Thank God. What's faithful to you? What's it tough? What's faithful to you guys? What's faithful to you guys? What's faithful to you guys?

It depends on your glasses, too, your shades, you're going to. You want to joke with me like this? No, I do. I do. You think there's wise? I do. And I want you go all the way. I'm down.

No, no. No, you're down the ball away? No, I'm sure right back, don't edit my shit out. And if you do, I'm going to do it on the block. I'm going to do it the other way. See, my girl will even hear y'all talk like that and she's thinking something, but I'm so favorite. No, it's not, I don't know.

So you're saying. I'm talking about during Watt. I'm not talking about now. I'm talking about during Wob. When Wap was out. You see old man over there? It's watching the video. When Wap was out.

Oh, wow. Oh, wow. I tried to told you, man. That shit, great. Now you see why I was. I see why you drunk so much coffee. Exactly. What?

Oh, man. That ain't a bad video, Joe. If y'all was single, you all will pipe both of them, is what you're saying. No, they're too young. Good answer. But not young enough to make your leg keep doing like this. Why would you watch videos your leg keep? When you hit 50, you can't even control it.

I don't remember what I was saying. I was saying something of substance. You said when Wap was out. Oh, when Wob was out. throat baby was out too. Substance. Let me just remind y'all. The old baby was that shit, though.

Wopped and throat baby was out at the same time. Oh, they got Jadae from Love Island in the video? Okay. The park's looking at the video. Yeah, it was. Yeah, these are coffee. Yeah, there's a little bit. Hell y'all, niggas.

A lot of love on the island. It's a nice video. It is. Sure. Is there any more new music? I think we've glazed enough on the Ice Spice and Lotto record. You're probably

horny old niggins up here Listen, we just appreciate good filmography When Wop was out Bitches was in The niggas say Wrable Go Let that Wap go

Let that Wap go That's the Bitches was in the When Wap was out That's what motherfuckers was sexually liberated I ain't gonna lie

That's like when The Slot Walk was bopping You know Big 21 Savage do the Slot Walk Yeah Look at that goat

I'm crazy We don't talk about that We let it slug No we don't talk about that You had a sign that said I'm a slut too 21 Savage did do the slut war

Yeah Nah yo That's what happened When you got that shit Yeah Yeah You got that walk You got that walk

I thought I saw at the party I told me I said oh shit I knew Let me see I forgot he did The slut walk I ain't mad at them.

I don't know. I ain't mad. She got it like that. I go to Starbucks with mine sometimes. I don't be wanting to go. What's wrong with you, y'all? Where y'all go with your girl that y'all really be wanting to go? Uh, man.

Supermarket. Home. This thing is crazy. set, oh. All right. Any more new music? I'm done with you. Just kidding, baby.

I love you. I'm done with you. There you go. There you go. I'm right. Learned fast. Right. Clean that up.

Holy shit. No, I didn't. Oh, this, Miguel. We got the Miguel record. Did you hear it? Yeah, Miguel drop. Yeah, I like it. I think it was pretty good.

I like it. Should we play some? Yeah, play a little bit. Even though it gets greater later. It does. It's not a, it's not a right-out-the-back kind of record. It's a slow burn. You need to hear the old thing

to appreciate this beauty type of thing. Yeah. It's a real good record, though. This is always time, Miguel. Let's go, Miguel being back. Broken glass, piercing words. It changed so fast, yet it hurts. Rocky paths, lessons learned.

Don't say it's too late. I thought there was always... When you love this heart And you try this heart But it's still not enough Maybe this time love me Let it go Let it go

Let it go I just feels good to hear Miguel again It's a slow burn record. It's not like it comes on. Yeah, it's not an instant, immediate impact type of record. However, I bet you that when Miguel drops his album, that record is either before, this one right here is either before or after something that bangs. Yeah, yeah.

That's what this gives me. Like, you'll appreciate it more in the sequence of the, in the flow of the album. Oh, I'm that guy now. Yeah. Yeah. I'm that guy. Shooting a lot of bell. Yo, this podcast is responsible for a lot.

This podcast is responsible for, you've got that all, parks. This podcast is responsible for a lot of, of bullshit jargon being attached to how we describe albums. Yeah. It is. We started a lot of the book.

Cohesive. Cohesive. That's an old one. I feel like sonically was us. Sonically was us. Not for me. Not for me. Yeah, we started a few of them, I think.

Sequencing. No game of a fuck about no sequences. Oh, please, not at all. I never heard that before. Never heard that before. Let's see. What else is in music? What else is in music?

Anything, anything, anything? Where's my phone? Oh, we got the Leon Thomas remix with Money Long and this one I bought. Let's see. You're going to replace it. You play it. You play it. You play it.

No. I'm buying Miguel when it comes out for real. Because I was about to clown it. Like I just said, when I first cut it on. By the time I got to the end of it, that's a great record. It's a nice record. It is. When you get some time, listen to the old thing.

I appreciate your music. You are in the R&B. Opinions. You go listen to the old thing. I'm serious. But that shit, well, I just heard. You don't like it. That's because you got your camos on.

That's why. That's good. You and that young nigga shit. You and that gack shit. The record is a little more, like, alternative. That shit sounds like issues. It's on a soundtrack to, fuck. and what's the verifying

World Wolf movies? Twilight. The shit is on the Twilight sound track. And you went in your drawer and found the socks that go with the ups. There's no socks. He's got no socks on. No, he got to, it's just not a no sock.

He's just not a no sock. You got to roll the ankle socks on. Do you have socks on? No. Oh. He in his bag. He has a lot. He has a bag.

Wait. All right. All right. Best. Stay nice. We out. Yo, what's right? We're out there. When you started, when you started now wearing our socks? Nick, I'm 49 and I'm from the hood. That's what we don't wear socks in the summertime like that.

That new long sock grew sock. Oh, we're gone. We're gone. We're from New Jersey. Am I lying? They got his ass shape. We have. Yeah. We have in the street. All right. What else? What else? Do you? Leon Thomas? Yeah, Leon Thomas.

When I'm talking to you, I don't know what to say. But I can call up a stranger and talk my whole life away Turned in. Nothing different in the first verse. Like the song is the song and one of my favorite songs off his album. Oh, Still Fire. Now you gotta play it. Turn it up.

Turn it up. Oh, I know. Bible scriptures on your left eye. Verses you won't really live by All she do is work, fuck, ooh but he's and get high. Never when I'm flying coach, babe Never when I'm flying coach, babe Spanions up on a road, babe

I'm a vocal coach for your phone, baby. This is hard. This is hard. But, uh, Money Long is on the second verse of this. Go on, let's get to the second verse. Is it mine? Are you ever? Yeah, she out of Marsha, Marsha's on this.

I love her. So many people yours, the word and pain. If you didn't need it, when we were at the altar then. Now that I'm gone, don't try to act like you did. Now you're coming for my commas. You my little baby mama telling people that I'm crazy when you left you with a baby.

Finally sticking up for myself. Someone said I'm losing my balls. Claiming I'm keeping you from your seat. It's not like I had a choice. I was winning when you left me. Or did you forget? No congrats on the Grammy. Maddie never pretend

Shrap and spreeze with my money She lies up what happened. Yeah, they're cooking. Yeah, I really think you're trying to do me. And I am the sad And everything that I say he can And we'll be used against me. That's shit tough.

They're cooking. Yeah, they're cooking. Some more standard R&B for you. That's a possible. Leon Thomas, Money Long, both friends of the show. Yeah, for show. And Marshall. And March.

Another friend of the show. Leon Thomas reminds, it's funny that she started that second verse like that. He so reminds me of a modern day music soul child. Okay. Yeah, I can hear that. I can see it. But a better vocalist.

Oh, hey. I think he's a better vocalist. And I love music song. I'm with you. I think he's a bit of voge. I'm with that. I don't know if that's true. I agree with Mark.

I don't know if that's true. I can't say that. Might be a preference thing. I mean, or the last few times, We've heard Music Soul Chow, vocally maybe it wasn't the best. But Prime Music So Chowell's voice, I don't know about that.

That's you're all back. Am I saying something that's like far-fetched out of his world? No. No. I got nothing but love for me. And I've seen Leon live. He's off the charts. He's off the charts.

That's what I'm saying. I'm saying like, Dwayne Wade is one of my favorite players. Kobe is a better basketball player. Oh, okay. That's what I'm saying. It's not a diss at all. You're not shit in other way. Yeah, yeah.

I love music, soldier. I know them all the whole life. I love music. You just... You're a Philly card. No, this one, I think this is a different card. Yeah, that's that other one. That's that other one.

It's both of the cards. It's both of them. Wait, I don't know what card we're talking about now. Coat card. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. They're building a case against Mark online. They say you got a lot of anti-black takes when it comes to, like, music.

What? They say anything online. Yeah, anti-black. I think Leon Thomas is a better vocalist. That's got shit they'll say. This is not one of those. What was one of them? I don't think I've had an anti-black take.

He'd be extra. I don't say my anti-black takes in public. I don't never talk about quarterbacks. Yo. I've never said a word. You, this guy has... I think where he fell on Shador was one. Of course, the brawny was one.

See, that's not an anti-black take. I'm just saying what they said. I don't think that... I don't think that. Yeah. I know you don't. Just so we clear. Yeah.

You know what it is? If you don't agree with people, they don't actually listen to what you say. Like, I think I don't like Shador because I said his first preseason game shouldn't be to determine it or whether he proved the people wrong. I said, let's wait two games. Like, you hate Shador. You hate Angel Reese. You hate someone.

I was like, no way. And the other games were not the great. Well, but see if I had been petty and went to game two where he got Maliwopped. Yeah. You know, but I'm not going to blame him. Oh, that would have been anti-blime. Right. Exactly.

So I, like Chappelleau said, I did him a favor but not saying anything. Is there anything else in music that we need to hit? I do want to mention that I like that Cardi's used in the court pictures for physicals. Like alternate covers for the physicals. I think that's hilarious. Don't start your shit, yo.

When Wap was out. You got to do none of this. When Wap was out. different time in the war I guess my question for you, Parks, is and I don't want to sound too conspiracy theory-ish. My question to you

is, do you believe that these court proceedings were in fact authentic court proceedings? Chicken to the egg, I see what you're saying. Yeah, I think they were authentic, but I think that she intentionally may have laid on some sauce in terms of how she looked and how she acted up there,

knowing that she could maybe use this for something. But I do also think that that's genuinely her. So I don't know. I'm a little conflicted. He's saying that especially, I'm assuming the coverage, the photos, the video. It's a little rare to get like video and photo footage from a, it was a hearing, was it?

Mm-hmm. That's a little different. But you don't think it was like a fake proceeding. I think the proceeding was real. I think that the coverage, the media, involved in the coverage of it may have been extra.

But Cardi's must see TV. So you don't know what she is or is not going to do. For sure. But it's been a bunch of... Media outlet. It's been a bunch of court cases involving Cardi, and we haven't seen

footage and photography and album covers come out of it. Either way, I think it's brilliant, by the way. She body that shit. I think that's good marketing. I think that's good marketing regardless. She got to hit that.

number i told you she was going to hit i'm going to read this uh ransom tweet from a few days ago just because i absolutely love that was a great tweet because yeah ransom says and i quote scripted court cases high profile breakups gun charges controversial social media rants etc to sell you an album instead of good music should tell you what quote unquote they think of you as a consumer for sure and not to wake up my woke side wake it out I agree I agree this may be a real court proceeding I don't think it's being handled that way from the label side the label side is like get in real life this is inconsequential there's nothing that's going to come from this let's get the press let's get the

looks let's just be in the newspaper capitalize let's say something funny so I mean I'm at, like, believe none of what you see not even half of what you hear anymore. I think that's where we are with fucking life in general. And I think it's intentional. I think between the screams of fake news to now

the AI and the proliferation of that, pardon me, I can't speak today. I think it's all designed to keep us fucking guessing about what's real and what's fake. Did you see her, did you see her pregnancy unreveal? I did not.

after she won her court proceedings she did a video where she's removing like extra layers from her

almost to say that hey I was faking I was pretending to be pregnant to be pregnant uh

eish don't get all quiet and stupid on me no no it ain't even that don't leave me on the ledge by myself that was flabbergasted

I think I think that was genuine flagged us. All right, we could be a room full of niggas and talk about it. I feel like y'all feel. Regarding the ransom

tweet... Oh, she went back to the ransom tweet. Yeah, I ain't speaking on. Oh, shit. Regarding the ransom tweet, I agree to a certain extent because I think that once you generate a certain dollar amount, then it's not just music at that point. I think it's the music business at that

point, and we've seen what the music business does to generate revenue. So I'm not mad. at them if they had camera crews out there I'm not mad at any of that shit any press is good press she got an album coming out she just beat her

hearing trial whatever the case may be we're going to market that shit as we see fit I'm not mad at that and he also implied that it's not good music pardon me and that's not a given we haven't heard the project yet we've heard enough well not enough

we've heard what they wanted us to hear from the project it ain't been good And he's not saying that, he's not saying that, but he's not saying, but he's not saying good music doesn't exist. No, he's saying versus good music. You're not leaning on good music. You're not selling, you're not using the music to sell your project. You're doing everything else.

It's all antics now. Not many people are using music to sell music. Because music don't sell no more. And that's my point. It's over. But it's not true. That's not true. The times is different, bro.

The times are different and that's not true. The ones that are really argue up here. The ones that are getting head, hold on, the ones that are getting ahead, the ones that's getting the most recognition, are getting recognition based off of the antics, period. All that fake pregnancy shit, all that shit. That's what I'm seeing.

Don't tell me what good music is selling. Just off the music alone. What good music is that was not just off the music alone. You said no rollout, no promo. I mean, that's not antics. Where the music is the forefront, the actual music.

Nah, the clips put the music at the forefront. The clips put the music at the forefront. The clips put the music in the forefront. We disagree. No, they wrote out there. Then what was at the forefront? Yeah, I'll disagree. The fact that this is the new first

song album in 20 years. I hate to break it to you. That's wrong. If that music wasn't that music, nobody gave a fuck like that. Nobody gave a fuck like that. If they wasn't everywhere, people wouldn't even have heard the music.

It's my point. But that don't matter. But they still was everywhere leaning on music. They had music to back up being everywhere. No, they, no, not back it up. They did back it up. They leaned on it. I don't want to conclude.

I don't want to conclude. play all marketing with what we're talking about. You do have to market music regardless. Especially when you left your label. We're talking about all marketing zero fucking music, good music to lean on. That's what we're talking about. Cardi got a court case popping and she gave us imaginary players.

Which I think is a decent record. So I don't want to. Outside. She got SummerSlam. They've done a bunch of other shit that was not just music. Not to lean on. That shit came in a flash. a flash in a pan.

Nobody's been leaning on the music. That's what I'm saying about. So I asked you, you're not leaning on the music. Freddie Gibbs has been leaning on music. Yes. But if you want me to go bigger than that, Drake is somewhat leaning on music. No, he's not.

No, he is not. Oh, I disagree. He just did an hour and a half long stream. You know what Drake is leaning on? Y'all are waiting for me to respond to the bullshit. Oh, he's not going to respond to the bullshit. But they're all that red button, they're still teasing red button shit. I don't know.

That's not my business. I know that somebody somewhere is. But when he gets however many people together to centralize in one place, music comes on. Yes, but how do I get you... Now, whether we like that music or not... How do I get y'all here?

I got y'all thinking it's going to be this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm tricking you, niggas. No, you... No, I disagree. I disagree with that. You said, at the beginning of this episode, you said that the thought was

this was going to be an album, which is music. It's not... This is going to be a dish record. No, but... Sure. Yes, but we all... They're also anticipating. anticipating some level of a response on his album. That's been teased.

But people, fuck the response. People want to hear Drake music, period. Whether it be, like I said, to hate on it, to love it, he's at that point. He could put out bad music and people are going to rush to listen to it. I don't want us to deviate from what we talk about. Chris Brown leans on music. Absolutely. What are you talking about rappers, Joe?

You was talking about rappers. But that might be the problem. I'm talking about artists that lean on music. Not necessarily just rappers. There's an issue that less rappers are doing it, but I think less rappers are rapping. Rap got a whole different issue that they got to address at some point, and this is part of it.

But just for musicians as a whole. No, it's different. A lot of people are letting the music speak for himself when it comes to R&B and other genres of music. I'm talking about rap, and especially once you get to a certain point. You're talking about elite rappers? When you get to a certain point, success. Okay. What did Kendrick

lean on? Music. That's not sure. I'm asking. If y'all think that Kendrick Lamar did not benefit from this draught beef? Whoa, whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Nobody said that. He leaned on music. He didn't say nothing else but music. He didn't do shit else. Outside that one interview that they did.

He did not do a thing, but drop music. Right. He didn't need no music. Even his responses came in music. The beef was a musical beef. Right. I didn't write on you. There was no Instagram post there was none of it was no writing on the black They didn't lean on nothing but

music music. Correct. Got it. You're speaking anomalies. There's a bunch of people who are. I mean I think a lot of people are just leaning on their music and that's where but at the center of our conversation

was can you find success leaning on your music? Y'all are talking about people. Yes, you can. Yes, you can. Yes, you can. Yes, you can. Success is relative there.

Well, Kendrick, again, probably the most successful rapper in the last year or two my far leaning on all music yeah success ain't relative in this one but I disagree with you don't you don't think he's leaning on music what I don't love about this argument is that we're I feel like we're putting too much on Cardi in that I don't necessarily look at her as like a pure musician

to begin with true that's a great point you know what I mean like we're we're castrating her you know for fucking doing what she she does. She's a social media star that used music to advance that. That's true. I agree with her. So why are we judging all rappers by what Cardi does? I agree. And those rappers don't generate the revenue that Cardi does. So other shit comes in to play with that.

Thanks. That's just a fact. I know we're about two weeks from this album. I'm still feeling good about my prediction. What was your prediction again? I think she's doing too. I think she do it too. 250. She would do two and a quarter. Yeah, I said between two and two 50. Two, 250. And y'all said I was crazy at the time. Not me. I agree with

that. I agree with that. I'm going to rewind. Well, now, mine wasn't far from you. I said between 150 and 180. I think pure speculation and Star Power will get her to two. I'm going to rewind I think whatever she's doing with Apple will get her to two. I feel like there's going to be more antics and shit too between now.

Before down and that. Yeah. Which is why I said she's going to get to $2.250. Because people were saying like, oh, it's going to be with $1, $150. They were comparing her to, you know, what Clips did. I'm like, she's going to do, or even what Drake did last bit. That's going to be a fucking Sabrina Carpenter song or some shit on there. Some shit like that where it's like, oh, we're not even talking to same conversations. You know what I mean?

You could. You could. You could. You could. You could. You could. And then it looks different. For sure. Then you reached. You reached for the fly. Yeah, for sure.

Right. It could happen. We'll see. Like I said, we're not far from it. I'm not sure that anybody from her camp or the labels camp gives a, fuck about longevity or quality of music. As long as they get an amazing first week in a return on their product, I don't know if they give a fuck.

Man, put Wop on the album. I think it is. It is on an album. They said it's going to be on there. Boss man, Dilo. I can't name a bunch of people that had a bigger year than him last year leant on the music.

I can give a bunch of examples on people that you barely heard a word from. Big X. Big X to plug. Yeah. You got it. Shit, one of my favorite little strip club niggas, what's my nigga name?

Big Boogs or some shit I still don't know nothing about that, nigga. All I know is anytime I go outside, he keep one for you out there. And they're going to play it. It's music. Yeah. Don't let the music industry fool you into thinking

that music is even less valuable than what they're trying to make it. It's a trick. It's smoking marriage, yo. Don't let the music industry confuse you to think that everybody in it is fucking musicians. Yeah. Like, yeah. They're not.

And everybody level of success is different, too. That has historically been the case. There was like the monkeys and shit back in the 60s that were like fucking pop TV stars or whatever that put out albums. It's always been the case. Hey, hey, with a monkey. Yeah, like those things have existed since the beginning of time.

That's true. I like those. California, yeah. I like them too. Fucked the monkey. I used to watch this show. Yo, I like most of the people that the music industry puts out as not musicians, too.

I like them. They normally are the ones with the best writing, camp, the best writing, the best beat, best marketing, the best everything. I like a lot of that shit. Hey, that's what lets me know. I mean, that led to my revelation

and learning that most of y'all didn't like our return of the mat out there. A lot of people don't. I still don't. A lot of people hate that. I didn't even know so many people hated that. I didn't know that either. They hate that record. They hate that shit. I love that. How could you hate return?

It's a polarizing song because people either love it or fucking hate it. I don't understand how do people hate it. What about this is how we do it? How do we feel about that? I didn't know that either. I didn't know that either. I really cut your own face? Yeah, they're listening.

I like these two songs. Wow. This is how we do it. I actually liked until white people got a hold of it until like mainstream pop got a hold of it. So you liked it for a week? Yeah. Yeah. Like I don't hate the song.

I don't hate the song. I hate that 20 years later when I go to certain places I hear. No, yes. He's absolutely right. I was just having to talk with somebody about trying to figure out my New Year's Eve plans this year. Yeah. and if we're going to do out the country again. Oh, okay.

And anytime that I ended up out the country at the wrong timeshare. Oh, like we did it. It's how we do it. This is how we do it. ODP. You hear Shaggy. They take some of my favorite songs

and turn it, just whitewash it into oblivion. And that's when I started. But they do like another version of it? No. No. No. It's a pop song that went crazy. You're going to hear Wayne Wonder.

You ever drop a piece of chicken on the floor and like you wash it off to get the shit off and still try to eat and don't taste the same? How long was it on the floor? More than five seconds. Oh, all right. Hold up. Wash it.

You think that ain't washed. Hey. Pepper. He couldn't. OPP sound different at the Cabo Times year with all the white people than it did on Farmers Boulevard. I've seen the same shit happen though

where a group of like black people who are not really into Rock play the certain rock songs that you just think are those records. Do the same shit. Those are the songs that they think are just the songs. That's a good point.

And if white people would be like, I don't like that no more, I'm good with it. They don't fuck on anymore because we like it. I'm good with that. Wait, and let me rebut your point. There's no dance floor in the world where adding a bunch of black people to it

ruined the song. I'm not saying ruin. That didn't happen. You know, from your perspective. What we're saying, Watching all of them white people dance to OPP, it hits different. Now you don't like the song no more, though? They don't have the same hit.

They might look at us on Teen Spirit and be like, this is a bullshit. I'm sure there's some dude that looks like Drewski and the skit when the country slap come on and the square dance ain't square dance in the way they wanted to. That's possible. I'm making a mockery. Same shit worked the other way around, man. I don't think smells like Teen Spirit is one of them. It's one of what? It's one of them where, like you're saying, it worked all the way around.

I just don't see that. I don't think white people will see us moving. It smells like Team Spirit and be like, oh, you're ruining it. No, cool. I think it's the way that we all. I think humanity dances to Teen Spirit the same way. Joe's crazy. I think humanity dances to Journey the same way.

Yeah, yeah. There's some records that exceed that. Journey, Team Spirit, Bon Jovi. We're mad as hell of the same shit. Joe is crazy. Joe is crazy. But you get some like Some nuanced shit

It might be different Some country shit What we're gonna do To teen spirit Versus what them white people Going offbeat Getting poked by pins White people

Jump and push on beat That's a fact You crazy Nah you know a record All right I got Here's one Here's one that I might

choose the whites On the dance floor You crazy Jump around Jump around Yeah Yeah, we can't fuck with them with that. House of a plan.

Yeah. Not what people jump to the... It's bad as we jump. When it comes to dancing, we jump all right. That's your shit. Nah, you got that one. When jump around, come on. Move.

Let them happen. You might only get this far off the floor. No, y' got it. Nah, that's their move, bitch. Get out the way. You better not be around the white person when jump around, come on. Oh, man.

You're stupid. Oh, God, that's their shit. They got it. That's like a little John's set when that come on. Yes. Is that our shit, though? Huh? Is that all shit?

Yes. Yes. I think that's middle of the road. I don't know. Jump around. We love jump around, too. I know. I think it's middle of the road.

Yeah, that might be. That's a jump ball. You think they might love it more than us? That's bird and magic. I think they do love it more than us. That's burning magic, y'all. I don't know. I think they love him.

No bullshit. Avelas, got him up. Timeless. Do they play it at the Boston Arena? Yes, they do. They do. That's right. That's their name.

That's their. Fuck you, that's hip hopper. That's a national anthem. What? Jump around is their hip-hop around. What? Yeah, that might be their best. I don't know if that's ours, Joe.

But they don't know four bars from that record. You crazy. You are crazy. They know all the white girls know the bars. They know the first-go-bars, yeah. Pack it up. And white people know that song. Are you crazy?

Joe. Chow the coming around, out of the whole crew about. Get up. Hand up. Come about throw your hands up. If you got that feeling, jump like. They know it.

They know it. You're crazy. They do. They definitely. Hineken in the end, too. I came to get down. Hey, black people, y'all better. Y'all better move by the time and get to.

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It's really great till my outside is fumbled, but, you know. But what about the ejection at the beginning of the game? That was crazy. It was crazy, too, because they didn't see the DAC spit first. First. We got a spit in the air. Yeah, he did. That's the very different than spitting on somebody.

Yeah, for sure. So what's the appropriate punishment for that? I've hearing people say they want a suspension, not just, the ejects, but they want a suspension. He should be fined. I think it's best for the Eagles if he's suspended. What did he do? He's a young star player.

They're going to be in an important game later where they'll need him. Yeah. And they'll need him to know better than that. This game, they won anyway. But immediately after he sounded remorseful, he sounded like somebody, he got a text. He got a call from somebody. Yo, that won't happen again. Immature of me, yada, yeah.

He said all the right things. Yeah. And he's been through shit before. so this isn't his first rodeo. Spitting somebody's just crazy to me. That wouldn't even occur to me to do in a sporting contest. Yeah, you know better. Yeah.

Is that the most disrespectful things somebody could do to you? Yes. Yes. Pretty much. Yeah, I can't think anything worse. I was trying to let's think I think anything worse. And again, maybe he thought Dak was trying to spit out of a little bit of bail, but you shouldn't spit back. You're over there.

You're over there. If I spit this way and you're over there, you walk up to where we face-to-face and you spit on my chest, it is a very big difference. And I hate that people are trying to equate the two. well dach spit first fam you over there and he has spit on him so yeah fuck we talk about I don't think it bells him out completely I don't think there's no bell out is the most disrespectful thing but I think it's on the list with the most disrespectful

things yeah outside of getting crazy crazy I think it's up there it's included in physical violence that's assault yeah yeah it's a salt there are few things that there are very few things that would make me just like punch somebody who didn't swing on me first but I think spitting on me

I think that would be the one yeah that would be the one well I can't tell you how I'm a react until I speak to your doctor. Just in case. If you're as healthy as me, then I'll be mad. If you got some shit.

If you got some shit, then you just lit the beef for life. The beef is on for life now. Those niggas that know they got some shit and be in the hood doing, ugh, that niggas is nasty. They are disgusting. Yeah. Last night I ended up My girl's too into gossip.

Your girl, right? It's the girl, right? She's her. Right. Short story, really, really, really short. I'll try to finish this in 40 seconds, maybe 30 even. She perusing the internet on her phone. She started laughing hysterically at something and says, yo, apparently there's a show called

For My Man, where women, where women... I've seen every episode. Yo, she said, there's a show called for my man, For My Man, where women are in love with the guy and doing anything for him, and they end up in jail. So, of course, I grabbed the Remote. You would love it. I grabbed the Apple Remote.

I go search. It's on TV One. I go to Apple. I search for my man. They asked me if I want to download some app that I never even heard of before. Philo. Some shit. I look at her.

She says, I would do it. I hit Connect. and I hit episode one on like season six the young lady in the 90s went out to Freakneck with her friends with no money she didn't have no food no hotels

and when they got there she got out the car and started twerking naturally sounds about right the pop and dope boy saw her came, got a hotel, got a little hotel and some food, got some food, she thought they were dating then, so she started flying out to see him even after Freaknick

for three years. Then he tried to put her on the strip to sell some pussy. Randall met your ass. He got to run out, you ran up a tab. Now she's still in the dog, she's still in the show and she don't look like life was great

even after the dude left. She in the show looking like somebody who went to Freakding with no money and no hotel and no nothing no not a thing

so I can't say what I'm saying anyway did he put on the strip he tried to get her the fuck she was already on the strip what the fuck do we talk about so apparently that's grooming

yeah wait what that's grooming if you get out of a car you start popping that thing to get some things and then you get them things

you get those things based on you well no that's assuming that you know why she's popping that thing she's popping that thing just because she felt like popping that thing okay

she got a dope boy because her stomach was touching her back what can't talk about you can't date somebody for three years and then try to get them to sell a pussy. You can't.

It's frowned upon. It's a bad thing. It's frowned upon. It's frowned upon. It's frown. Look at y'all. You can't do that. Okay.

Have you said so? I'm telling you. Y'all are some savages. No, we're not. That newer couch is, they're getting nasty. Nigger, it takes a lot of guts to ask that. I don't even talk about that with the bitches I talk to that cell pussy.

It's like taboo. So how do you think they start selling pussy anyway for the name? Exactly. You have to ask. I'll tell him. All right. Business. You guys.

Business proposals. I'm just saying. She thinks she dating you. Y'all kicking it. You going back and forth from city to city. You pop out the car, dance one time. And then two months later, you go from being a boyfriend to her pim. Like, dog.

No. No, I'm not saying. Hold on. Hold on a lot. Oh, I'm saying that's how that should be going. Was she dating him pre-pop? That pussy? No.

No. No. But popping that pussy's different than break bread A fake dead Like it's a whole different game Not much What I'm saying is Yo dog

Have you dating somebody for three years And you propose the Threesome Some people feel like that's disrespectful I thought you were You look I know I thought you were about

Sophisticated speaking If I've been flying you back and forth A little prudish white girl Yo, I've been flying you back and forth for three years. Shit ain't the same no more. I'm down on my luck. Or you ran up a tab. Yeah, no, you'm down on my luck.

You riding or you riding? Mm-hmm. You're down with us or you down with you? You can't ask a girl that you're doing. I pay some of that back myself. You're in a grade right now. You can't ask you. You can't ask you.

You can't ask you. You're down with us. And if you and your lady live together and you're down on hard times and you're all sitting at that little kitchen nook. And y'all, you're pulling the mail out. You still can't say it. You got to hope that she just got a hope that she know what time it is. Damn, ain't no money coming in from nowhere right now, yo.

Hey, hey, there's no hope. Yo, you're in shape. You just start dropping. Yo, they're killing on Onlyfans over there, y'all. Well, listen. Now, don't say that. If you get on there, start killing too much. Now, she's going in.

Yeah, she can put you on the street. Right. It's over. It's over. It's over. This sounds like a great show. Thanks to the recommendation. For my man.

If you don't have nothing to do, me and my wife watch it when she was pregnant. Yeah, let me ask you a question. Yeah. Did she sell about? It's funny. Did she go outside? Old girl? Yeah.

In the episode? Yeah. Yeah, but that's not right. Right. That don't prove your boy like this. No. You know, look at the Manosphere right now. Look at you trying to light the Manosphere on fire.

Bro, that is right. Manifference is cut a win. She voluntarily went, too. Br, listen. How far you, hey, my last question on this. How far you think you are from, like, Manosphere? I don't know what that is. Yes, you do.

Yes, you do. You're a lying. You're a lion-ass. You're lying-ass, nigga. He's ground zero. to it. Nigger sell drugs every day for their family.

Commit crimes every single day to put food on the table for their family. So if I hit a lick and the connect is gone, guess what else got to connect? You talk, you,

a day job. It's always a possibility. Electrician, man. That's a good gig, man. Do you all want to talk about Drewski and Whiteface? Let's do it. Kill him flip out here.

What were you going to get Pierce? oh yeah because right I got I didn't really pay much attention to it I saw Imani send it to our group chat yeah he just talked about how funny it was it was funny and then Pierce Morgan hit me his morning like hey can you come on Monday to talk about

this because is this racist Pierce go away right that point god damn it I know Mark don't want to say that's his man yeah and it's the gig's gig you know check it's clear better than gorilla pimping like

dude Nick Nick You know, depending on who the gorilla. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. He's going out tonight. Hey, that boy outside tonight.

I want him to go outside now. Yeah, no, he didn't sit your ass down now, man. You need supervision, man. Go home. Bro. Go to the house, boy. That's funny, son. My man called me because my man, uh...

No, you know, you know my man on. No. You said, where do you know. Yeah, that's going to be a drinking. game today. I don't know. My man owns an NASCAR team. Oh, shit.

You know, Nat. Oh, shit. You are a fucking legend, is. You're an absolute legend. Go on the NASCAR. You got to be a bum in your circle.

You know, my man is always, you know, my man, it's an astronaut, right? Yeah, your man's don't fuck with your little podcast gig. No, but my man, he's the first black owner of an ass cartoon And he was like, yo, I couldn't have did that shit better myself

Like, yo, this nigga is dead spot on Of how these motherfuckers are. Yeah And he was like, yo, everybody's mad saying that If it was the reverse And somebody dressed up in blackface, then we would have a problem Yes, because it's different It's a thousand percent different

Yeah, that's why it was tough for me to even want to waste time on this Like, I don't feel like we're talking to the idiots that think it's the same, but if we have to be responsible about it, Mark. Yeah. Oh, yeah? Tell us why it's not the same. Why is it not the same? Because there's a power imbalance. There's a historical difference.

Blackface has a very particular meaning and a very particular power in the United States, which has been attached to Jim Crow's, slavery, oppression, and reinforcing white supremacy. Take that, man. Yo, I fucking love Mark. Yeah. I love that. We wouldn't have did that. You did that shit in 15 seconds. Hey man, you're lucky my nigga over here

talking about Adela and shit. No, that shit was funny, though. It was funny, man. And whoever did that makeup was crazy. That shit was funny. And you know what? I had to watch the mix. Yeah.

Actually, as much sense as y'all are making on this, let's put a pause to, let's put a pause to y'all making sense. To logic? Because Theo Baum was mad. And he said, and this is about the second or the third time he doesn't got mad.

at it and he said hey maybe it's time for me to go get the makeup and a jerry curl I just want to say do that shit word don't tweet it just get to it

just go do it hey oh my god hey Theovon please go get makeup hey dude on the stream now you should do it and get makeup and a jerk get makeup and a jerry girl.

Dude in Detroit to Chicago. Right. Now with some watermelon or some kidney. And some Popeyes. Kennedy fried chicken. Right in the door. Yo, I think

A Theo Vaughn, if you did that, that might be even funnier than what Drusky did. And I would love to see it, man. Please. Please. Don't let good sense and good sense having folks

deter you from doing what needs to be done. You're right. If Druski could do it, you could do it. The funny shit about the Shrewski sheds that he had people believing he had the he was engaging with the real white people out there they thought he was real he smoked the cigarette yeah that's how good he did that shit yeah oh my god I know this idea has been floated around I would love to see a druskey

sketch comedy show yes absolutely yeah for sure it's time it's time though yeah it's time yeah it's time he's aren't too great at these shit I mean he kind of doesn't with the YouTube channel but like Like, I could, I would like to see a real, like, production, I guess. Although his shit is producing, so, you know. His phone got to be blown up with people who are saying that. Yeah. That shit was really funny. Shout out of Drewski.

Drusky's all my favorite. And Theo Vaughn, please, yo. Sleep on this. You're going to be sleep. No, sleep on it, man. Give it, give it some thought. Take it to your team. Do that shit.

Make up. and a jerry girl and watermelon and chicken and popcorn and chicken fried chicken yeah that'll do it anyways what else needs our attention it's a couple things

come on let's do it I'm here I'm here today one of them I thought that was interesting and I wanted to know y'all take on it was the Sierra future thing or really it's about Sierra and her child with future

TMZ made a big report of it yesterday that while she was there with her children I believe it at the U.S. Open is that what it was? Her son with Future now has the last name Wilson. I saw. The Internet does what the Internet does. Some people are strongly in favor of it, saying if he's not a good father, he's not present, or whatever,

she should be able to change the name. Others said that's the dad. You know who the dad is. That is my dad. You know, don't ever change the name. I'm not saying Future's not a good father. I'm just saying that's the debate people that happen. I don't know nothing about Future's life.

I'd love to hear where you fall I like when you bring these topics in because I get to hear your opinion I mean first Yeah come on Mark I've seen you use the strategy before We flip The

I think if the father is alive and around Unless some egregious shit has happened I would not change the name Unless the father has denied paternity or fatherhood Or just says I don't want to do it this kid I probably wouldn't change the name. I wouldn't. You know what I mean?

That's some shit we all got to agree on. I know she still has his name as like a middle name kind of now. And then at Wilson at the end, I just don't think it's necessary. It wouldn't be a choice that I would make. I wouldn't want somebody to make that choice for me. But other people are like, it's her right to do it. And if he's not active and he doesn't want to be around and go do it.

I probably wouldn't do it even if he wasn't active. But that's just me. What do y'all think? If you don't want to be around, don't worry about what they're doing with your kid. I know it sound fucked up but niggas guy if you don't want to be around

don't worry about it okay but what if you do want to be right okay now you have a now there's an issue here then I'm talking about I'm answering his point if somebody don't want to be

in the picture then by all means but if he wants to be in the picture no you don't change his fucking name no matter what if he's trying to be in the picture wants to be in the picture trying to be a father

even if it ain't to the standard you want or whatever that's his child I think that's the gray area. I agree with everything you just said, but I think that's the great area for people. Sarah did an interview a little while back, and they asked her what co-parenting was like,

and she kind of laughed it off almost like, I don't get no help from him. What's the line where they've sunk low enough as a parent or as a co-parent where you feel like you can change the name without the father's input? Because that's the question. Like if you show up twice a year, do you change the name?

If you show up, you know, like you said, if it's not to your standard, but you're around, do you change it? How bad does it have to be for you to be like, fuck it? You can't have his name no more. for me it got to be they out completely out they got to be out okay anything else no okay they got to be out got you like

anthony edwards type out got you that's that's out you got to be at that level if we had anthony edward's level i'm all for it anything else he never was in he didn't want to be in right for me you could change the name you can't change the blood no that's still my name go no no i'm gonna agreeing with that, but I'm just saying for the mothers that feel like they can take it upon themselves and make this decision no matter how the dad feels, for me, that kid grows up, that kid has my blood, features, my DNA, my genes, you can call, you can name that little motherfucker, whatever you want. At some point, my likeness is going to come up in that house.

And you should familiarize yourself with it, even the aspects that you don't aren't so fond of. So you can know how to deal with it And the best way for you to know how to deal with it Is through Real Dad And then if that's not an option Then step there Not just that, yo you got to think about it

These are celebrities So all of this stuff is documented In the internet universe This child is going to know Who my dad is Read some of the Discourse And dialogue

That is taking place and come up with some semblance of the truth, right? I just think it's up to the two parents to allow this kid the ability to navigate that. The other side of that is the kids know who there and who ain't there. Let's say, let's say. And by the way, Sierra has full custody. We don't know the level of parenting that future does with this kid

and that's very important to know. You said what? I said, we don't know the level of parenting that future does with this kid. I think that is very important to know in this conversation but we don't so it's we're speculating yeah kids know who there and who not there though that kids are coming in the house like this kids don't always know the reason why what you're gonna do that's what you gonna do that what you go on what you're gonna do Who you go out?

You gave a little pretty last name. That nigga can't, is in the upstairs drunk. Rapid March Madness. Now what? Ain't no name going to help. I think the name change shit is more so because like you said, the features, all of that shit is still going to come out.

You can't do nothing about that. But now you basically cutting off lineage at that point because, again, my name, like, you just ended that and made them somebody else's kid. Let me ask you a question. How would the world know that she's doing this? So apparently... Apparently, it sounds like she did it a few years ago,

but because she was at the U.S. opened and they put the kids' names in a print, his name was listed there as the last name. So she didn't, like, announce it. Okay, it's been happening for a few years. So it was just saying the context matters. It wasn't like a stunt. So did she do it or is she planning on doing it?

My understanding, again, we don't have all the information because she's not speaking on it directly is that it's been done. And so it's like Zahir, whatever Future's last name is, than Wilson. Oh, two last names. Sort of, yeah.

Yeah. But then I hyphenated or anything like that. But Wilson is the last last name. Naga, you know we're going to stand for that. That's it. But, I mean, it's tough, though. I mean, again, like, if I see, I'm not saying this is a future case.

I'm using an example. If I see you once a year. So what? I'm still around. The kid is still familiar with who I am. It's a low bar, man. I wouldn't do it, but I ain't that mad about it if you come around once a year.

And on top of that, like, even when it comes to getting passball, I say that they say you still need the parent permission both signatures get a bad for. They circumvent that. I don't, I didn't know about that. I know that you still need it even if the father's not around. I say

that to say that it still should be some level of respect. How do y'all how would y'all feel as a man putting your last name on somebody that's not yours? I would. If I spent 365 days a year with him, yeah I'd feel great. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't mind doing it. I'd feel great. I don't know that I would.

I don't know what I would. I don't know about that. If there's no relationship. The relationship is not all it's about to me. I'll tell you why. And it's not. The relationship should don't be as cut and dry as the world make it see. But here's the, I agree with that too. But here's the thing.

Particularly you have multiple kids, right? So if I have three biological kids and one step kid and I'm the one raising this other person, this is his unit. Your father doesn't come around. It's like some Will Smith on fresh print shit, right? At some point, I want you to feel like part of this fully. And so part of the last name thing is more

so that you don't always look like the outsider when we go to school, when we register for things that you got. You see what I'm saying? So I'm just saying there is another side to that. Sometimes that falls. It gets embarrassing. It doesn't. No, sometimes that fall with the person, with the parent.

Not the kid. The kid don't usually care about that. That may fall with the parent. It depends on what class level you're at. In the hood of Domatics, we all got different names. But if you at one of these fancy schools a day at and everybody's a Wilson, and you're in Akbar, that shit might fuck you up.

I'm just picking a random name. It depends. Like one of my home girls, her daughter's got different last names. And she said one day, the teacher, she had left something in the class, and the teacher was chasing her out. And the lady was yelling, I don't want to say the name, but let's just say the daughter's last name is Johnson and her last name is Smith.

And they're like, Miss Johnson, Miss Johnson. And she's like, yo, I'm just walking. I'm just hearing them saying another name. and she said by the time I turned around I realized she was calling me she said yo that's not my last name I was totally embarrassed as the parent she was embarrassed

right you get them saying that your daughter's got different last names and they go to the school and it's damn you was embarrassed that had to be hard had to be tougher than the other option which would be not being on earth yo man

wow yo yo man some tough feelings that's got to be tougher than never fucking seeing the planet. You know, what are y'all talking about? You know, if I'm dead, I wouldn't give a...

Nah, let me shut up for I sound toxic. I see it from both angles. That's all I'm saying. I can understand why somebody would feel this way. I can see it. But again, I think my only frustration is that some of these dudes that don't come around

to take care of their kids, that don't come around to show up for parties, don't show around for parent teaching night, don't show up for nothing else. When they find out a name got changed or somebody took a photo or went to a daddy door, to death, they lose their fucking mind.

Then they want to show up and get lawyers and do all. It's like you only show up for that disrespect, but you don't show up for none of the shit. Like, you're not embarrassed to not take care of your kid. I still think that's their right. I still think that's their right. I came up with a blended family. Yo, y'all be so one-sided when they come to this shit

and we can't say it publicly. Because if that's the case, if that is the case, say it. No, ma'am, I'm cool. We have to stop. Pardon me, pardon me. It's a big build-up. that you do.

So we are waiting to hear what you're saying. So the woman has all of these rights, right, with regards to the child. And the man has zero. How so? I think he's asking that. The man has zero.

Is this hypothetical or you just? No, it's a literal hypothetical however you want to take it. Y'all speak on y'all experiences oftentimes, which are very, very limited in the broad scheme of things. A lot of people are going through shit outside when it comes to co-parenting

or rights of a dad or a mom that don't go with your societal norms and how shit is. Y'all be talking this shit that niggas didn't experience and that shit be fake for a lot of men out here and a lot of women out here. Like what, what you mean? The woman don't got to give you your name, period, nigga.

They don't have to give you, you don't control that. You don't control none of that. They don't got to give you the last name at all. That's a cool baby mom that gives you the last name. She's doing you a solid from that, from the rip. she decides to change it nigger you don't have no say if she changes it but is there why yes it is

because you can't financially abuse everybody so out here in these streets and so the point that I'm saying is y'all want men sometimes to not have say so when they come to certain shit but when a man stands on the other side is shut up nigger this your kid yeah but that's not what I'm saying that's not what I just saying when they come to money and other shit shut up nigga that's your kid

so that it should be shut up that's my kid when it comes to certain decision But I want you to hear what I said, though, right? Which was different. It's not to you or you. Oh, yeah. No, you said it in direct response to my sense, so it may seem that way to a listener. Yeah, I'm just saying, again, I think it's complicated, and I don't think we should go around changing names,

and I think it does all this other long-term damage. I was just in addition to that as a caveat saying that some of the men I see most outraged about shit like that, like that's disrespectful. Or that's embarrassing to me, aren't embarrassed to not be around the other theories. That they won't buy a book bag. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. And I'm saying, I just find that frustrating when those are the people speaking out. Now, if there's people in other situations, that's different. If you do that, you deprive my family of the definition of break the cycle.

You deprive my family of the chance to break a cycle. But to their argument, you are deprived of the family of that. And that's the point that man I speak. But that shouldn't speak for my entire lineage and legacy. There's bad apples. Every family got them. So, I mean, ooh, you failed the family name. Okay.

I had you, though. So you with the right parenting Can go and grow and fix all of this shit And if we change in your last name I see your point Then I see your point Yeah that just is nuts to me It's a little bit feels like an ego trip then

It's like if you care that much about your family The other way it feels like The both ways are ego trip The other way is ego trip If we're going to point them out Point them out on both ends No no I'm saying in this particular case Again in the case where I'm talking about the people

Again I'm talking about the people Who have been shitty fathers But I want you to keep my name So you can clean up my legacy If you care that much about your legacy to raise them. See, you're looking at that the wrong way. I'm only talking about in the case of the shitty father. The shitty father that's looking at it that way is, in my opinion, a selfless way to look at it.

You're not thinking about you. You're thinking about everybody in your family that's not just you. You're thinking about the Johnson's before you, the Johnson's after you, the Johnson's from 50, 60, 70, 100. Why are you? I don't look at it. Some shitty fathers ain't thinking about none of that. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying in this example I'm saying. An example I'm saying The dad is feeling like

I was a failure I don't feel good about me But I think my kid will have a better shot than me And hopefully that will You know Say Joe's a piece of shit Which I'm not What they say it anyway

Let's say Joe's a piece of shit Say Joe's a piece of shit But Joe's dad Joe's granddad Joe's lineage of buddnism Was them Was them And that particular kid

Now can carry on that legacy And be a great person with the last name of button, that one blip in their lineage was a blip. It shouldn't stop them carrying on the button last name and achieving greatness. Yeah, I think that's crazy. And I'm saying, I don't necessarily disagree with that.

And again, I hear his point. I hear the point. What I'm saying is if, in this hypothetical Joe piece of shit, right, he was raised by a Wilson who actually did all the work to make that kid great. Because, again, he's not around. He's a piece of shit, right? Yeah. So he was in the Wilson house getting to school.

The Wilson person gave him the education. gave him the mentor and the training and now he's a doctor that ain't come from button yeah so so what and wait so what i'm saying i'm just saying i can see i can see the other side of again i'm saying i can see why somebody would say we raised you we made you and this is home for you and so if everybody else in the house is a wilson i want you to be a wilson too so then that's the ego play i don't think that's to make the kid feel home not because i want you could be both i get you i get you i'm not a kid i think I think it's a really, really tough situation. I can objectively look at it from both sides

and see that both entities have points. Close us out. That was the closing. I think when a kid gets older, they could make a more informed decision. I think the kid should be the individual to make that decision. I know.

Go stand in front of your real dad as an adult and say your whole name. I can tell you this. As somebody who met a daughter at 18, right? Her world would be a lot easier if she had my last name. But that man raised her for 18 years

and it would be unreasonable and unfair for me to want her to have my name even though I'm proud of her and I love her because he is her father he was the one who raised her and so that's what I'm saying

I can always speak for my personal experience that it is and you've been on both sides and that's what I'm saying from my actual personal experience like it is like it's complicated I put a lot more stock in nature

to nurture I think that's the disconnect we have it maybe I put a lot more stock in the nature part than the nurture part yeah okay really

I think it's 50 50 I think I don't think it's not 50 50 50 It's for me Me neither I think the nature part definitely matters Like if you got good genes fam And you grow up to be a genius Nigger the nurture didn't make you the genius

It could have helped It didn't give you the brain capacity That you have that you got from your mother And your father She got to be a Lamar Hill I love my hill No, we got to switch that bad She got to be in Lamar Hill

Oh, man You know, this thing is an idiot Yo, on a political note real quick Just just No, no, 10 seconds, 10 seconds It's not heavy It's not controversial You're not going to get canceled

Eric Adams has been offered There's rumors It's not officially confirmed But Eric Adams has been offered To be the Secretary of HUD Right That is very important You always get a nigga

The housing job That's the first thing, right? They think anybody could just be in charge a public house it, right? Just make him in charge of a hub. But the reason is to pull him out of the mayor race. They're trying to get them a step down. Yeah, that's why I'm mentioning it.

So for people that think that Mamdani has a cakewalk, it's going to get a lot more difficult if Eric Adams takes this Trump job. And from what I'm hearing, Eric Adams wants to take this Trump job. So just know that this New York thing is not resolved. Because if it's Cuomo Part 2, if it's Cuomo, if it's Cuomani Part 2 and Republicans are voting, because they're also going to pull Curtis Leewe out and offer him a job too, potentially. And if that happens...

Well, he shouldn't be in there. he shouldn't be in there I know that he's ahead of Adams right now right he's crazy he shouldn't be in there right and the republic is going to take Cuomo especially if Trump

is telling them to I never had a political commercial work on me like it did yesterday when they pulled up hey I don't know who's running against the mayor of Trenton

but take cooking his yeah that commercial came on the mayor of Trenton is MAGA the mayor of Trenton was to raise New Jersey

taxes from 6% to 10%. The mayor of Tritton once they started throwing man New Jersey fax out there. The mayor of Tritton wants to take away Medicaid for over 300,000 people. The mayor of Trinton, I was like, previously voted yes.

Hey, whoever money is he is a problem. He has got to go. You know what I'm going to Jersey with a 10% sales tax with a 10% sales tax in Jersey on clothes grocery. They said in the commercial

clothes and groceries. I'm like, I ain't fuck the man in Trenton. Anyway, I ain't even from Trent. I'm going out there pick it against that thing. Now that I said it, the commercial going to pop up on your TV one. Yeah, of course it is. Anyway, let's get

into KL2. Let's do it. Let's do some KL2. This has been intriguing to me. And I want to shout out Pablo Torres. I don't. Why? Oh, because he's riding a little bit? Are we doing that?

No, not because of who he's riding on. I'm cool with that. Okay. He says that his next case study may indeed be Jalen Brunson. Oh, so I see. I thought that was joking. And I got, it didn't sound like one. He sounded very serious.

So that's my only issue with him. Why is that an issue? Because mind your business. Now mind your business. Mind your business. Oh, okay. The Knicks ain't had no success. Here you come after you got five.

from ESPN wanting to bring back investigative journalism. Doing a bang-up job. Oh, you're doing it. He's doing amazing. He's killing it. I don't believe. Do we tell him what happened? No, let's lay it out.

Let's tell him what happened. Let's tell him what happened. So, Pablo. 70 Dunkin' Donuts. You'll see what happened. You should. They gave me Eli Manor. So sports journalist Pablo Torres did an investigation that looked into a Kauai Leonard's contract

situation with the L.A. Clippers. Yeah. The revelation that he's made or the allegation that he's made is effectively that Kauai Leonard signed with the Clippers for the max deal, but then also had a backdoor contract deal that circumvents the salary cap by taking a deal with a company that Clippers owner, Steve Balmer, has deep investments. And initially they said $24 million. Then I think the number now as of today was moved up to $48 million. I heard of $28. I'm sorry, it was $28 and then with the $48 because of potential. stock options.

But he never, it's reported he's never been paid from the stock options. Yes, but I'm just saying that was the, today they just added the stock options to the conversation, which made the potential number higher. And if this were true, it would be a bombshell in the NBA. And just to be clear, these were allegations that were made when he first signed because his uncle, Quilinor's uncle made a lot of demands of the team. He wanted a house. He wanted a private plane. He wanted guaranteed advertisements. He wanted part team ownership, things that all circumvented the salary cap.

The NBA investigated it back then but found out that there were no violations because they didn't give them any of it. But now they're saying, wait a minute, he got an no-show job where he got signed to be like a spokesperson for something

and never went to work. But the company didn't exist, did it? No, it existed. It existed. It may or may not have been a scam to begin with. Okay, that's what I was talking about. Right.

And that's the difference, right? The question is, is this a fake company designed to pay Kauai Leonard backdoor or did Balmer get hosed himself? Got it. Which he may have. And that's what Mark Cuban, who came to his defense was sort of saying.

I watched that episode as well. That's a really good episode if you want to watch Son Pablo's YouTube page. It's him and Mark Cuban going at it. Mark Cuban was essentially defending Balmer as much as he could, even though he's like, listen, he's my opponent. He owns a rival team. I am also a billionaire, though, and I can see how he may have gotten caught up in his game. and he kind of was putting a lot of the blame on Kauai's uncle

because in part his uncle is not a registered agent or anything like that so he basically has the ability to do this deal and to really not be any repercussions for it. He's like he's actually smart he wasn't trying to make him seem like a bad guy he just made it seem like listen he didn't have anything to lose basically

by scamming this $50 and taking his cut $50 million and taking a cut But it's intriguing, man. It is. It is. I think the other piece of this that we have to remember, though, is that there is a great area here because sometimes when you go to a city, for example, in Philadelphia, Tyrese Maxi has a deal. The team is often sponsored by things like car companies, insurance companies, and those companies want to give deals to players who play for the team. And if you leave that team, you lose the deal because we're the official sponsor of the Sixers.

So sometimes it looks like a secret deal to circumvent the salary cap, but sometimes it's just the natural progression of being a star on a team in a city where companies are there and in the same galaxy. So it could be, I don't know who's lying and who's telling the truth,

but I wouldn't assume the worst and I wouldn't assume the best. I ain't mad at it. I'm sorry, bro. I don't like it. I don't like it if it's bad. I tell you what I don't like. I've never liked the advertisements

on the jerseys in the courts. I hate that. but I think this is a reason to prove that it wasn't like some weird dislike they are the official logo shit on all their shit aspire was whatever it's guy yeah

yeah so that kind of seems to be the problem to begin with yeah I don't care about players getting their money I want them to get every dollar they can I don't go to fuck about that but I do want fairness and my concern is

some owners have the ability to make better backdoor deals than others and if you're in a major city you have the you have more So it gives... That's why niggas won't playover in... But that fucks it up if you live in Cleveland or Denver or... I get it.

He's like, I don't know of fuck. Listen, find a way to pay me. I disagree. Yeah, I think that all of these owners are billionaires. Yeah. All of them. So I don't give a fuck if I'm the owner of this team in this small market or a team in a large market.

We still are billionaires with unlimited resources. And sometimes it might benefit the small market billionaire to make these deals. to make these deals because then we could get the major stars to come to these smaller markets. But they're illegal or against the rules.

These niggas got billions doing something illegal. You just told me a couple weeks ago you can't become a billionaire without some immorality. A whole lot of it. I just want fairness in sports. This conversation is not reserved

for the small market team. And this is the direct rebut to fairness in sports. They had the meeting all the small market owners was like, hey, it's unfair, it's not right. They added the second apron. So now the playing the playing field is even.

But the playing field will never be even because Steve Palmer's money is longer than all you're on the box. Yeah, but it didn't come from. The niggas that it don't matter. It don't matter. It don't matter. That's not true.

The niggas that own the Mets, they money, they're going to be able to do things differently than the Rockies. Do it. You'll never, it's nothing you could do about it. But I'm okay with that if it's like I can pay more into the luxury tax because I'm richer. That gives you an advantage because you got more money. I'm cool with that.

I'm saying don't cheat. They removed that option. No, no, I'm just saying as an example. I'm saying don't cheat. All I'm saying is don't cheat. And if you're going behind making fake company, I'm not saying Baltimore did that, that's what's debatable. But if it's true, you can't make a fake company to pay somebody an extra $24 million. And I think your whole don't cheat thing, and this is just my belief, is smoking mirrors.

I think we've passed that. That's old school sports. There's too much money in sports. It's too much money in the other G word that I can't say. But none of this shit is as we see it. So it's just about who's doing the manipulating. So just let it be the Wild West? I mean, if someone had to have a hand in the manipulation,

I would vote for it to be the owner. I vote for it to be the owner. See, but what we've misconstruing is how somebody got the money. Steve Barmer didn't get him. his money from being an NBA owner. True. So Steve Balmer, with his rich ass, was rich before he ever got the clips. Most of them did it.

Almost all of me. Both of them. Cool. So whether he went and bought the clippers or he went and bought the Pacers or he went and bought a small market team, he still would have more money than most of these NBA owners. Which means he still has the ability to make these deals. These deals are not just relegated to big market teams.

No, that's true. That's, but I'm saying the big market teams gives you more. If we're going to start making backdoor deals. that are illegal. I'm just saying if I'm in New York, there's a lot more players. And avenues. There's a lot more advertising dollars

and shit like that. I'm in players like companies. People are, yeah, yeah, yeah. Versus like if I'm in Toronto. Oh, not tough. That's a bad example. Denver or Cleveland or something like that, which are great cities.

So I don't want that imbalance to get doubled down on. That's all I'm saying. And it's not, it just seems unfair. Again, like some people want to actually play by the rules. Are you have the belief that this is a new, or unique occurrence? No, I know for a fact it's not.

I've seen play. I know players, I don't say who, but I know players in cities that have gotten these kinds of deals before. It wasn't Philadelphia, but I know players who got these kinds of deals. And it really wasn't. But, like, I always thought this is fucked up.

Now, again, if it's like everybody's doing it and it's just a secret and this one just happened to come out, then I'm not tripping about it. To your point, that's just the game. But I'm not sure that that's the case. I think some people are playing by the rules. It's like steroids, right?

If everybody's doing steroids, I don't give a fuck, right? But if 75% of doing steroids and 25% are playing by the rules, that's not okay. And that's what I'm trying to understand. I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that. I know that my take is not the right one. But I don't agree with that.

If 75% of the league is taking steroids, baseball but C League never saw more money than when 75% of baseball was taking steroids. So what the fuck? Who gives a fuck with these 25%? They just make it legal. Weirdos. Yo. Who can the fuck with these losers are saying over here? That Mark McGuire Sammy Sosa race

Yeah Chicken-legged weirdos Hey Hey all of them televised game McGuire Sosa and Bond You know what I never heard I never heard

From none of them niggas Not doing steroids They didn't put a microphone In front of them That sure Dweeps Niggum Mark McGuire Hit a homeowner every day

One arm Every fucking death Dead ass Dead ass Dead ass She was funny That she was crazy. Primetime TV right there, more.

The worst is Barry Bonds, because he was actually better than everybody already. Then we started doing Roids. And I think Backbonds is a greatest player ever. Once he started doing Roids, it was a rat. I think that's not. I disagree with that because Roger Clemens is better than everybody. He started doing it. So if the pitchers start doing it, I'm doing it.

If the pitchers start doing it, and it gets him an extra mile per hour, extra break on the ball or anything else that gets them in advantage. And I'm the hit. I'm going to. I'm going to do it. I'm for it. My point is, then make it legal. Let everybody do it.

It was. it was that's why everybody was doing it let me ask you something do you believe it's just frowned upon let me ask you something frown upon

do you believe in unwritten rules I do all right yeah I'm good with unwritten rules I'm good with it

like I said I'm fine with it my point is in baseball at some point they made a banned substance list they should not have but once I'm saying

once you do that it's no longer an unwritten rule there's a written rule that's because here comes it'll be an unenforced rule at that point we did that because here come

The dorks. Here come the initial gang and the dorks, but here come to FCC, the AC F-C, F-C A-C. A-C. A little steroids are bad for you. Oh, they're illegal. Who, subpoena.

But we like, home run. You fucking little testies. Whoa. Yeah. Fucking loose-ass name. And all the steroids announced, we need people to watch the home run derby. We don't care no more.

Right. Yeah, no, I'm with y'all. I believe sports are filled with unwritten. The niggas went to every fucking rock movie. it's got no problem And then they point to them The Golden Age of baseball with Babebrew

What do you think they were doing back then? That shit was a wild one That's a mafia It was doing what they were back in the way Back in the way of PTs though That was drinking whiskey Babe Ruth was killing those farmers Yeah

Doing cocaine in the fucking dugout Fucking out They also took all the Yeah Yeah Yeah Hey Rod had this steroid nigger Come to the dugout

Yeah Drop it off over here Man Fuck the traffic. Right. Uber Eats. Yo, man. No, look, I'm good with the Stelra era.

I love the steroid. That's my favorite era of baseball, honestly. Uber Eats need to give me the option to decline, homie on the bike. Oh, yeah. I completely agree. Technology is there now to where I should be able to switch that out. Because if I order tacos, they are going to come soggy.

Yeah. But don't. At first. They be riding with the shit, the fucking, the flap open. Yeah. The motherfuckers. They be riding with that little domino pizza. thing to keep it hot.

That shit don't work me. No, I'm on that shit open. Hey, remember I told y'all, the nigger was riding the bike with my pizza and they said, oh, I'm a nigga, the long, the long pizza box, I almost killed that nigga, son. I almost killed, I said, what are you doing? Yo, what you matter?

He like this, riding it with the electric shit too and all the wind is blowing, that shit was cold. Why would you bring my pizza like that? It's because you had the long box. Yeah, I had to fit that shit on the school. The square joint shit. I couldn't believe that shit, son. Is that just for you?

for you. Oh, shit. I'm scared. No, no, I was going to ask if, you know. You sure? I can't hear you. Say it again. Yeah.

Some of these stores do need to update the technology. Some of these stores are making too much money to still receive payment the way y'all do it. They got the supermarket the other day. Somebody was in front of me trying to get a money order. I guess they had just got a new money order. It took that niggas two hours. You know, the money was tight. The niggas at the supermarket?

at the supermarket? Sometimes just to keep me grounded, I walk by places that do Western Union. And it keeps you grounded. You still do Western Union? I have to, yeah. You are bum. Niggas in jail. I got niggas in jail.

And jail and people overseas. Those are the two people I got to say. Yeah, you got to do Western Union. They laughed at me or MoneyGram. Yeah, I sent money grand to people in Gaza. I help them out with lessons. You know. Do this.

No, don't do that again. Yo. Change, you. Learned lessons. I helped him with lessons, niggas. Y'all, that's a niggas. I help him out with wisdom.

He was with some of the pot and get me sucking on it. I like to slap this out of this. He's nuts. I helped him with less. Hey. Hey, you know, watch EYL. You'll be straight, my dick.

Oh, shit. You know, that's crazy. Send him in a vest vest. Oh, man. Watch this link. That's crazy. That's funny. Yo, yeah, I hate that shit.

I feel very adept. place, but you got to do it. And that shit expensive. Yo, yeah. That shit high as fuck. You spend it $25 and send $100. Yeah, that shit is crazy. It's usury. Oh, I don't know. Yeah. They got an app now. You just let your niggas rot, huh? Yeah. Just let your niggas right. They fleece you too a little bit.

Jay pay payles you too. All of them do getting outdoors for the video stuff. It just lets your niggas right. She was like, I don't know if it's anybody. Word. That's crazy. Yeah, I sent my brother some sneakers yesterday. I paid I paid like $100 for some like Adidas Mids. You know what I'm saying? like some shit

that in the... No. You wouldn't even wear on the street. The cold nikes. Yeah. Oh, them joins too. Yeah.

Coles nikes. Yeah. Oh, speaking of jail. Yes. We got to unpack this young thugs. Oh, my God. Hey. I'm tired of it all.

I'm tired of it all. I'm here. Hey, Micah, turn this part up right now about to unpack the young thug tapes. I'm so serious. Anyway, I'm tired of it, too. We're not. Thank God.

He said that Glorilla was ugly. Yeah. She said boy you know my phone trying to ask me to cover my eyes boy you better chill out

I'll make it hot over there fast and then he said I apologize I never even thought you was ugly and I was home saying he did right

he did the right thing he did the right thing at this point I think it's fair to say that Doug was just bored and it's okay that's it well he's being set up

that is exactly yeah clear facts and nobody's saying a thing and it's pretty easy whoever's doing it is doing it from the comfort

of their home like it's like they had a whiteboard in the jail like what do you think what do you what are you

honestly what do I tell you whoever setting them up is doing it with the ease at home would they feed up eating the journal

it's over the journals they're trying to ruin they're trying to try it Great job. He's not helping.

It's not helping. How so? Slaps. Oh. Yeah. Slaps pushes all his noise out the way. Right. They do.

Hell, you know it's funny, man. And it's not funny, but... It ain't that easy to find a slap. I was just about to say, like, I think we kind of get comfortable with some of these good artists and how effortless it is. but then when the machine is not behind them, the machine that y'all talk about so much, y'all just be like,

nigga, go make six slaps. If we take it for granted. If it was that easy, my nigga, I would make them. Right. Drake, heard the song, you heard no slaps. Thug, you need slap. Little baby, you fell off. Ain't no slaps.

At some point, we have to say, the slaps are far and few now. The people that come up with the slaps, maybe don't even work here no more. Something is awful. Things have changed. Yeah, things have changed. Things have changed.

Whether it be the team, it's not... Doug could use a slap. You don't say that. A drink could use a slap. Yeah, well, drink, I could use a slap. Who couldn't use a slap? You know, anybody to do music, if you just wake up one day to a slap. Yeah.

That sets you a year. Sometimes your next two years. Your career is the biggest slap. You're publishing. It changes the conversations you can go have. Changes the fees you can ask for. Changes your touring the size of the places you're going to tour at. A slap change everything.

Yeah, for sure. So I ain't about to keep shitting on niggas for not having them, but I am. Only because these are the people that had the slaps. Like, these are the people that understand that, you know, all I just put music out. Yeah, in fairness, we're also not talking about generational hits. Like, just good music.

Yeah, that's it. I'm not talking about no game changer, no iconic record that we're going to play 20 years from now. Just some good music now. Yeah. They ain't doing it. Some of this music ain't been bad. some of it has

a lot of it has some of it it ain't been feed me for a year exactly so I don't know I think we're looking for slaps

I don't think we're looking for good music I think we're looking for slaps from the slap makers that have been proven to make slaps that's all here

and like I said whatever change ain't just right there whatever changed that's not entirely true though when you say that it's like

some of the shit sounds good it's easy to make shit sound acceptable now there's too much technology

to put out something that sounds horrible okay So put more time into the actual craft of the fucking song. Does that guarantee a slap? Nothing guarantees us. And that's my point.

Like, you, niggas act like you just go to the mailbox. Like, oh, six laps in here. Good looking. That shit ain't just that simple, evidently, because we haven't seen them in years. Flip, yeah. I was thinking about you yesterday when I saw that Floyd Mayweather and Mike Tyson are going to have a fight, an exhibition fight. What do you think about me for?

I know, you're in the boxing. I know it's not one of the sports. You just finished fighting in the street, you know, for free. It was exhibition. Exhibition. God damn. I wish I thought of that.

I was just being. That nigger said you was doing the blonker. Yeah, you said that. Hey, yo, listen, man. Look, look, man. The time has come. The time has come, man. I got to get my ass.

That's what I'm saying. Off the parkway. The time has come, man. I don't need to be going through that. I don't need to be going through that. what I went through, man. You had security. Yeah, yeah. I did have security. And police.

You know, what you ain't peep? He looked at the police first. No, I peeped. And then rush homeboy after he said the police did. You know they was going to get him up off you. No, no, no, no. No. To me, in that moment, I heard somebody called my name. That's why I turned around. And then I saw the police. I did charge and take it, you know, advantage of the situation. But you still

the first nigga I ever seen. Turn. Make sure the cop was there. Let's start to fight. I didn't make the show the cop was dead. And then do something to just totally get arrested. Like, that was fly. That was fly. That was fly. Are you crazy? That was fine. You got to arrest? Did they actually arrest you? No. No, no, no, no. They didn't.

Detained. Nobody did anything. I wasn't detained. I wasn't arrested or anything. I think that it was the officer that called my name. You got a little pep. Somebody said, yo, Queens. That's why I turned around. And I saw it, then I, you know what I'm saying? But it's over, man. It could have been a group of women. Huh? Could have been a group of women. He was just calling him Queens. I need to get off the parkway, and I just got to just do other things, man,

when it comes to that. I think that... We'll just walk away, not... You know what I mean? Well, no, no, no. I don't think that walking away right now is in my repertoire. I'm saying, maybe that's a developing skill. I think... I don't have to fight. I think... I think that... I didn't hear you say it again? You said you don't have to fight. You don't have to fight. I'm saying to say, like,

I don't have to fight. You don't have to fight. He doesn't say, like, metaphorically. You just, like, literally walk away from the situation. No, I know what he's saying. No, I didn't hear you. What did you say? It sounds like aggressive. Yeah. Intentionally. I don't want no smoke. Just assume for the rest of this episode,

I'm never shooting at you. Even when I, I'm used to sincere questions. I promise you. There's no joke. I watched it and I thought, okay, dude is obviously instigating something.

Yes. And he wanted a problem and you gave him exactly what he wanted. Yes. And that's the thing I hated about it. I understand. You know what I mean? You've come up here for months,

maybe years talking about how the old shit that you used to do, you don't want to be known for that no more. Yeah, that wasn't. Okay, yeah. I'm talking about pertaining to you. You didn't like how you would go out in public and people would see your skits

and think that that's how they should approach you and handle you in real life. Yes, sir. So what happened? Y'all going to be mad to me. We got to have our intervention leader. Okay. We have no intervention now.

I'm just saying. We got to have it. Sorry. Well, let's do it. I want back to the fight. I'm going to talk about Mike Tyson and Floyd Mayweather. That's actually the thing that I wanted to talk about because to me this is rock bottom.

I know it's going to make a lot of money and I'll probably watch it. I'll probably have a fight party. So I'm part of the problem. I'm such a coon. I am a whole coon. I'm trying to tell you right now. However, I wish they wouldn't do it.

I think too much of Mike Tyson to watch him lose, which I think too much of Floyd Mayweather to watch him lose in an exhibition fight. I don't want to watch either of these people. They're 60-pound difference. They shouldn't be fighting each other. They're 100 years old. I don't want to see it.

It's going to be a horrible fight. But you do want to see. You said I'm watching it. I want to see it for the spectacle of it. a bus accident and I'm saying like That means you want to see it Yeah and I'm saying I'm part of the problem And guess what niggas do? They put together a whole bunch of accidents

Put a compilation together And put them out to the world and make money off of it Yeah and I just wish one I didn't want to see that shit I wish I had to discipline to not watch it Because I'm part of the problem But I also just know this isn't good for either their legacies Even though I'd love to see Mike Tyson get paid I disagree

You think it's good for their legacies? I think that at a certain point in your life when one we don't want to judge anybody's money that's number one but wait what I think they're both doing we don't when we start that way the hell

that never we don't know if somebody has enough money now to where legacy matters to them Mike doesn't and that's my point I don't want to say that no he says it he says it he says it allowed so Floyd might be doing him a service as the OG

to be like yo I know we can go get 200 million over here you're going to take 100. I'm going to take 100. I'm looking you out. And fuck what Legacy is talking about when you can't put steak on the table for your family. I'm not telling them that they're wrong. I'm saying I hate it. I hate the way it looks. I hate the way it feels. How much is steak?

How much is steak now? 6099 pound ball? Oh, come on this. Joe. What? Mike Tyson could go buy a ribeye. Yeah, but I don't know if Mike Tyson could pay the mortgages and the lifestyle that he has sustained over for the next 10 years. Mike don't care about Legacy. So,

I don't want to keep you as it. I know that he don't care. I mean, this is his however many a fucking exhibition. So, like, we don't have to really. I'm not sure that Floyd cares as much about it. Because also, this is his, I think he's his, it's not, it's not a, it doesn't count. I know, but Floyd being 57 and O in actual fights,

if he gets knocked on his wallet and knocked, whatever it is, if he gets knocked unconscious and loses his fight and doesn't go on his record, I don't, I don't, I know. Nobody's getting knocked. Nobody's going to land a punch. Which is why I fucking don't, that's why. y'all don't see that as a problem this is back to the ransom tweet what do they think of y'all that's what this is we're going to put these names up here say this people will say oh i want

to see them fight they're not going to fight first off it was not going to be a fight but people are stupid enough they're going to they're going to buy it they're going to parties they're going to do all of this and it's going to work you're all invited also just bored enough like it's going to be on a saturday night in the winter or fall or whatever she said 2026 two of our favorite sports personalities getting in the ring doing whatever they're doing and making some money I'm not mad at it.

I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it. And I don't mind it. It's not like they're in their primes. They're both retired, essentially. That's why I don't want to watch it. It sounds disgusting. Did you all see Dr. Jay and Creamman and Dojibar play 101?

No. It's one of the work. Go on YouTube when y'all get a minute. No. And watch it. It's after they both retired. I'm going to go back and watch more Mark Lamont Hill versus Patrice O'Neil clips.

Actually. Go watch for my man. When you watch Dr. Jay versus Cream Drew-Jbar, if you choose to watch it, it is the worst basketball game ever. One, again, they're not matched well, and they both way past their prime. And Kareem dusted them, of course.

But Dr. J didn't look like Dr. J. He looked like we did. You know what I'm saying? And Kareem didn't look that much better. He was just bigger and tall. So I'm just saying, like, I hate for that to be a lasting memory. And there's kids who will never see a Floyd-Mayweather fight or a Mike Tyson fight, and they're going to see this.

And I just hate that. I just don't like the leg. Anyway, we can move on. I just don't like the leggings. I think there's kids that might go back and watch some of the old fights because all of us, the unks, are going to be sitting around like, man, these guys used to be the shit. And they'll be like, let me go watch them to the shit. I like the birth of a new revenue stream. I'm a fan of that aspect.

Yes. I like having something compelling to watch, even if it's going to be terrible. A new revenue stream would be nice. Compelling. I mean, one thing we did see on the flyer was Mike Tyson Productions, or Mike Tyson Promotions, which was nice to see. Yeah. Floyd, I'm used to see it. the fly. But seeing Mike Tyson promotions was

striking to me. So I think to your point there might be a much bigger revenue share in this for him. But I would just like to see him do. I don't want somebody, a 60-year-old man to have to get, even pretend to get punched in the head in order to pay his bills. What's the other option? What's the other option? A new revenue show. I don't know.

You know, I know he's doing, he was doing podcasting. He was doing weed. Great podcast. Elweed. You know, all those kinds of things. Great edibles. Yeah. See, but that's the other thing. How many times do I need to come up with a new option if I just made $20 million six months ago. Right.

Like, how many times do I need to get water from the well? Now, I'm not at that discipline, so I would go do it. Also, maybe you take the $20 or however many millions of dollars you get from this fight to fund your next venture that you have planned and don't have the funding for. I would be so excited about this business venture, I would ruin it. Like, I'd hit somebody for real. Like, I would make it a thing. I think it's got children, bro.

No, you wouldn't. You're trying to get as much money as you can leave your children when you get off the face of the earth. So if a nigger brings me a $100 million deal in 2026, I'm going to fight again for 75 mil in 2028. As long as there's a market to keep giving me checks and I'm at a minimal risk, I'm taking them. I'll also say as a casual boxing fan, there hasn't been like a lot of big fights to watch, so I'll take it. You know, niggas got to stop saying, yo, niggas got kids. You want to leave all the money to them. Sometimes.

You want you to blow it? Sometimes you just, it might not even be that. Want the money? To blow it. Yeah. I got a lifestyle I like that I used to have it. These fucking kids. Sometimes you want the $30 million rolls worse that look like a little boat with the shit in the back.

Yeah. And that might be it. Listen, I keep looking at shit that I don't have no business looking at online. I could see where a few extra dollars would come in handy. Jim Urstay selling his lake house for $30 million. What else? Hey, they just showed me a bunch of pictures of Jayze and Beyonce's portfolio. Oh, if you really want to get sick.

And they're looking at some shit in the UK right now. That's all that shit. Ridiculous. Nigger. There's almost some more shit to get now. It's always some more shit. That's the thing. There's always some shit to go get.

I mean, if you're... Yo, how much money you need? You can't buy another house? Shit. Maybe not on here. Yeah. I don't know where the rumors are coming from, but they say Jay-Z is working on something again.

Yeah, it's been bubbling. Yeah, they've been getting louder. I feel like in Memphis Bleak podcast, shout to Memphis. Bleak. There's been a bunch of people on there mentioning it. Yeah. I took Bleak's words serious, though, when he said... Yeah.

Real quick, I was reading the tweet from Lauren and she was saying that she was at the press conference when they were talking about Jay-Z. You mean Lauren from the Breakfast Club? Yes, LaRosa. And she was saying that she was at the press conference where Jay-Z was talking about or where they were talking about the casino.

And she said that the reception there wasn't too positive. Like she said, as human beings, people were against Jay-Z bringing casino to 42nd Street to Times Square. What do you think about that? Because I think it would be a great business move for Times Square, I think it would be, you know, or you think it would, like...

I feel like... You're on my real opinion? I do. You seen Times Square lately? Come on, stop doing that. They could use a casino. Top Square ain't done. You can't fit right in.

Why can you say the dirty, cleaned it up? If you've been to Times Square, the evidence story, gonna get it done. Yeah. Really, Julianne cleaned that shit of years ago, man. The biggest Ruby Tuesdays in the world is not enough of an attraction. I'm sorry.

You're like... There's a red lobster there, too. Delicious. Come on, Joe. That olive garden is still fire over there. It is. How you know? It's on the second floor.

I'll go there. When? When last time you've been out of garden? Two years ago. Oh, okay. No, not when the last time you picked the olive out of a garden. When is the last time you went to Olive Garden? Two years ago.

Two and a half at most. And it was that one in the time square that I'm talking about. I like that one. Will you go up the escalator? Yeah, it's nice. Why do you think I don't do nothing? regular I wonder why

He always paint me as a fucking wig I wonder why I'm an olive garden G when there's one around That's one of things Always one around That's one of things

That's gonna keep me Stop It is We live in New Jersey They get to Olive Garden around here All the time 22 Springfield

22 It's more than that one I know It's cool That's my one though You had the address Off the top of your head Yeah that niger

That nager You went that tour Italy Bobbett Stoufers See here you go Tom Square is a hot fucking mess Look you can use a little something

So is O'Anne City They got to sit here Watch your billboard over there Bro Yeah, they're gentrify everywhere else Tom squid Yeah listen When the billions come

They're gonna clean that shit up I know you talk about I'm down A little bit We'll be dead before they clean that shit up No well they've got Fam do you remember What Times Square was like

When we was kids Yeah the real time square Yeah and they did something different and if J-Z or whoever comes and puts more billions of dollars in there that some of that money are going to be allocated to cleaning that shit up so these tourists because some

feel safe spending their bread. Do people not show safe in Times Square right now? It's pretty safe over there. I'm in Times Square a lot. Times Square is not super safe. You're in Times Square a lot, you said? Times Square is not safe. It ain't that safe.

It's pretty safe. All jokes is hot. Fox News is 47 for six. And BETT was right there. Tom Square is not safe. Tom Square is fucked up. No, it's not safe. No, they ain't.

You'd be passing. No, you're saying that because of who was occupying the streets over there? Is that what I'm going? No, they got scams. They got niggas over there doing mad shit. They don't care. Hustling all of shit. Atlantic City is disgusting.

And guess what? They go down there every five minutes to gamble. I worked at Times Square for. They're going to be there. 15 years? It's, and granted, it's been six years. The old studio and it made his music. No.

Yes, it is. That's 37th Street. I had to walk through time. Square both ways, hang out, go out, eat, drink, all that shit in Times Square. I was in Times Square. It ain't good, bro. I haven't worked there in a few years. I've worked in Times Square for 10 years, too.

Yeah, old tall ass over there. Yo, it's different when you were hanging out here. I just go to what you was talking about when you walking through. Just going through, passing through. It's a whole different bogg. Dog, this, Times Square has his own precinct and niggas will still shoot you over there, stab you over there, go over there. Can I get a shot in Times Square.

No, no, no, then you're not paying attention to times. It scams and robberies. You are wrong. I look it up. People are getting shot in time square right by the little... They just shot somebody in the last year. Oh, my God. They just shot somebody recently.

I'm not lying. Okay, out of how many billions of people being in Times Square? Yeah, I got to look this up. I don't judge it like that. If you're going to pull out the gun by the hot dogs man at 3 p.m., I think it's dangerous. With Spider-Man. Yeah.

Hey, that could have been the only time the gun came out that year. But guess who ain't going back up here? I wouldn't quite call that dangerous because one occurrence had to be. What I'm saying is when the investors come, unfortunately, they can't be grifters, though. They clean up the neighborhood. They spend some money to get an ROI on their investment. I'm trying to figure out why would anyone be against it going there, right?

The same reason people were against all the shit in Brooklyn. No, because you tend to displace the people that are already there. In Times Square? Who's in Times Square? I was saying, you're displacing. It's businesses and other shit. Viacom. I don't care about them.

The way I would, like, in the neighborhood, like, you know, get rid of people. The Eminem stores can go. It's fine. Ripley's. Yeah, Republican shrimp. We do need a new casino, though. That's fucked up. I don't know if I'd want to go to a casino in Times Square either.

It's just already too dense for me. I don't need a casino. Depend on how I look. I don't know how I look. I don't want to go, but I may want to Uber someone from there. You ain't that gambling yet. Girl. oxygen being the building three at the morning

they be wide awake that's the new cafeteria that shit is going to bring back some of that old time square show over there now too yeah I need to want the old shit yeah yeah

the casinos tend to come like that some stragglers yeah all right what else is important there's more people than that are from New York listening to this broadcast

what else needs our attention or doesn't need our attention rest and peace are Georgio Armani Yeah, for sure. We're pretty late in the broadcast. Rest in peace to Georgia Armani fashion, legend, fash and icon. Along with Roland Ray, rest in peace to rolling Ray.

For sure. Internet icon. We got, we lost two legends. We did. We lost two legends, man. Let me queue up outstanding. Mark, you don't have a beautiful eulogy for Georgia Armani, huh? Or Roland.

If I was Jewish Romani, I'd be mad as shit that I did all that. Rolling Ray's in my, you know what I mean? In my rest of pace. I was about to get worse because I'm not. I'm going to throw streamies. I was just my recipe. Streammeese sushi. Let's get something that we really need outstanding for.

What the fuck? Go ahead. Get your shit off. What is streamie? Stream East was a bootleg, streaming site for sports. Watch all the sports shit without the... If I was Georgia or...

I'd be mad. We've rushed over my shit for streamies. Streamies fucked a lot of people up. That one's going to hit home for a lot of people. You good, eh? Yeah. Legends legends all there we go there we go. There we go.

Everybody are legends. Thanks, I. Anybody loved them. Oh, you're here, freeze. Hey, let Mark do the rest of pieces, all right? Freezing, look at Mark. You don't get him, fuck about this shit. Oh, my God.

I don't give a fuck. You know, I don't give them. Freez. Nah, everybody loved them. Everybody loved them, man. Thank for he. Love by many. At least that's effort, though.

Yeah. No. Hey, by. Anybody like to Because I'm laughing Everything you're talking about laugh I'm not He ain't going to start

That is effort though That's more than Mark did They did Mark I was close out of your joke I didn't put much effort Into it I'm not saying

Roller Ray I actually was sad But my daughter was very upset about Roland Ray She was a big fan of him at high school

She loved him She called me yesterday She's like I can't believe he's dead And I was like Really? Everybody loves

You just see the picture? No What the fuck? Ticket time, Oh, my God. No, I'm just saying like he was a ticket time by me.

I was hoping that he would have gotten better. He had a lot of health issues, you know. Oh, that ain't going to work. That ain't going to work. Roland Ray got some of my favorite reads.

He's fucking hilarious. When Roland Ray was talking to Trina cousin, Bobby Liked, and he was like, I'm rolling around bitches like you. He was cutting Bobby lights out.

I know y'all don't care because straight man. But he got some good reads. Rest in peace to Roland Ray and Georgia Armani. Everybody loved them. All right. And streamies. And streamies. We might as well RIP to WNBA season, too.

Oh, shit. Damn. That's a lot of people are saying. I don't feel that way. But a lot of people are saying that because Caitlin Clark yesterday announced that she's out for the year. And so the eyeballs are going to be gone. the view you know a lot of the national televised games are probably going to get changed people are going to see how much she meant to the league and again I love a whole lot more players

and Caitlin Clark you know and I hope now that people look at the Asia Wilson's and you know me all of them right but it's a big deal that she's out but I'm glad she's resting up because she's had injuries all year and she's had just a really rough second year so I'm rooting for her to recover and I'm rooting for the league to still get supported even if you only watch for Clayton Clark try watching something else do you think that the racist this will discover page i think that's still going to be their new kately yeah got i think that's exactly what i got a fall back player got a fine got a fine one best yeah but i hope they pay attention to angel reese's great season i hope they pay attention to all these other things that are right

yeah for work oh i'm sorry doing that shit again i'm over here i got i always get distracted anytime i see something that says mother faces backlash over what she wore her her son's game She always got all the ass. She just wears some regular shit. Just has some eyes. No, he had a lot of ass. Oh, he had a game. That's just, that's just it.

He can't even put the pads on. Move, nigga. Where's your mother? You know special teams anyway, man. You ain't getting no burning. Sit down. Oh, man. Let's see, let's see, let's see.

We did KL2. We did streamies. Cardi, recipe, Tyson Mayweather. I see Little John bodybuilder on the board. And I know I saw the images of him doing competitions and stuff. I don't know who wrote on the board, but somebody was really interested in this, and I wanted to know why.

We're just trying to promote health as wealth up here at the Joe Budd podcast. As bodybuilders ourselves, we want. A lot of us are going to the gym. Are you going to the gym now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's what's up, man. That's dope. It's dope. Proud of you, man.

And you get to the gym. That's normally the next step. Once you learn, security won't hold it down. Let me get my shit right I got to be able to do this In case it pop off Hey yo You're talking to security yet today

I got winded I'm like yo Fuck I gotta get my shit together What's up with us? You're my man You just said I don't want to say nothing 20 minutes past

Yeah I don't have no beef with you It doesn't have to be beef We can have a conversation This is a broadcast And we're here to have dialogue I think it's unfair to the listeners that you may start something.

I'm going to let it sim in and not shoot. Just think so. I can handle whatever you say if you won't have a conversation. Do that that nigga connect with that long-eyed hook? No, come on that, please.

And pause. Yo. Oh, yeah. You got a flame with words. Oh, my God. Wait. Wait. Wait, what?

Yo, did he connect with that long-ass hook? Yo. Oh, my God. My lord is. You are a flagrant boy. I've been with children. The other day, I felt like I was 33. I took my knee up off the bed.

Went to work. It's been about 20 years since I took that other knee off the bed. I just think I said I took my knee off. Yeah. To Captain Morgan. Yes. Yeah, she looked mad like, Who the fuck you is?

That's a dangerous game Because now you got to do it again. Right. And when you're doing it, you got to do it if you're doing that. Like, you got to go, you can't, you got to put working. You can't pump fake that one.

No, you got to put working. What that knee is off the bed. And she looked back, huh? You up there like, nope. No, no, no, no. Long. Yeah, we're done. You're going to get the seven power strokes.

And then we back to normal. Got to get the oxygen tank like we're here the mile hot. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Anywho's, let's see. What else is going on up here? Oh, the Epstein list. Oh, yeah.

We finally might get some action, even though I doubt it. I doubt it, yeah. The Epstein's victims said that they're going to come on with their own list. Yeah, I mean, I guess who better to do it. Good for them. They don't know. They was under all types of drugs and Cisco. Hey, you can't.

All the rich old white guys kind of looked the same anyway. Hey, hey, hey, those are some different party favorites. Hey, hey, hey, those are the guy in the suit, real pale. A droopy face. Liver spats. It looks like you get him a dead. I don't know. The kids can't be trusted.

It was dark on the island No facial hair Click and mark Beattie eyes Looking like Purdue Yeah

Yo Tell kids about to falsely accuse Somebody They're about to They're about to lie When somebody famous

They're going to They're going to get that thing A Purdue chicken Oh Yo Holy shit All right

Oh, man. They say they're going to come out and put the list out themselves since nobody else wants to do it. My advice of y'all is the same as it was that Theo Vaughn. Do it. Hey, but the mistake was announcing it.

They should also maybe wear wigs and shit. Try to hide the identity a little bit. I was like, wait, you know. You made a press cover. Like in the horror movie, we don't watch, waited two hours to watch the good guy finally get the upper hand

and the bad guy and you give a speech you tell him what you got to do and now he'd uncoffed himself stabbed you you're like dummy

what do you do it same thing with these kids if you was going to do it god damn it just do it I was only thing I didn't get about it I made a press conference

announcing that y'all are gonna say something content and y'all still live right over there y'all live right on Johnson your niggas is right in Long Island

still Niggas are pulled up. Staten. Staten. Randall's. It's less security. You're right there. Look.

They're distracting us with this young thugs shit. Word. Mariah, the scientists, you ain't low neither, talking about some damn. They say she'd look like. Yo. Stop. It's important in a relationship to know when your partner is setting you up to. For real.

There'll come a day where it turns in Mr. and Mrs. Smith in the relationship and you got to win. You got to win. You can let us. They say, you're like, Rihanna.

What do you think? Anyways. Holy shit. Y'all hear, Drake, tell the people why he colored his paint his nails? I missed it. Was that in the Bobby interview? I fell asleep.

Yeah. He said he bites his nails. so he just wanted to have pretty nails like Yaddy because he always bit his nails and they wanted unattracted. I see. That was the least informative content piece I think I've ever seen in my life. Yeah.

Just another reason to get her in a bed. Yeah. Yeah. You know, he do shit. Don't nobody mad at eye. Hey, why he wasn't you do this interview? In the bed, nigger. It's for the first time.

None of the other reviews were in the bed. Like, what, hey? Nice or bad? I won't be the one to bring it up. I'll tell you that. Nice or bad. Anywho, yeah, much nicer bed. View.

And he talked like he beat. If you watch. I see it, but I get your point. You have to see it. There's definitely a post-beat vernacular. Absolutely. You would have to see it. A post-beat energy.

She was trying to keep, she was trying to carry a lot. Nah, nah, you know. Keep the beat going. Let's see, let's see, let's see. I think we might be done with all this. We might be done with all this. I don't see anything else up there. How y'all feel about your football teams this year?

I feel great. You should. And you don't watch the game anyway, so. Yeah, but just knowing, you know what I mean? I guess you don't have to ask me. I want a tank. I think that y'all might be kind of right. yeah y'all gonna be good i would love us to win six games y'all i think you're gonna win eight i think y'all

what i'm saying is i think that they know that this is uh a transitional year i think they've seen enough from jackson dart to be happy i've seen enough to be happy he'll be there so i'm sure they do so let russell and james do whatever they're doing let's get a good draft pick and let's get this ready for next year and if we start losing early enough to put him in the game like around week 11 sure I feel good going in the next year or the next few years. So I'm not mad at where the Giants are.

Kudos to the Giants for having a quarterback room with black guys there. And this is the first time in NFL history where half of the starting are black. So let's make some noise for that. Yeah, man, absolutely. In four or five years, it'll be more. You don't want to make noise for that?

Yes, I love black quarterbacks. They're great. Very accurate. Oh, anti-black Yeah, you're not being the allegations You're not being the allegations. Did you use an accuracy joke in this? No, it wasn't being funny.

It wasn't being sarcastic. I'm saying like, you know, historically they were seen as like athletic but less skilled. I'm saying now they've actually their skill, they're elite quarterbacks. I love it. I love seeing a progression of black quarterback. Yeah.

They're not just legs anymore. I'm with y'all, whoever putting that compilation together. Y'all got some. That's fine. That's fun. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm disappointed a little bit for you

as a Steelers fan. Because I think... Commander's fan. I thought you were Steelers fans. Go ahead. I'm joking. Oh, okay. I was like,

because y'all are so well-coached and have such a great organization, you're probably going to win nine games, 10 games, make the playoffs and not get better again. That seems to be like the Steelers. Yeah, they live in a world coach. They live in mediocrity.

Yeah. That's where Pittsburgh has been for the last... A decade? Longer than that. I mean, if you're lucky, maybe Aaron Rogers will come in there,

like, shit up like in a bad way and you can tank if that's what you think it's better I do think it's better it's not better we ain't we're playing to compete for a championship and haven't done that and haven't done that

since about 2015 16 been trying to have no quarterback this ain't the answer we'll see though listen I'm hoping to be wrong I think he's going to shock people too and play well he might pull the uh Brett Far

go to the Jets and suck and then go to the next team. I think I'm going to all right again. I'm thinking about going to the game Sunday. Oh, yeah? Where is it? MetLife. Oh, why wouldn't you go? No, reasons.

Oh, okay. Fair enough. How are you thought with them Cowboys? I thought we had a really good shot at winning yesterday, even before the game. I said that. I think we look good. I think we're going to be better than people who think. Playoffs?

Stretch. Right there. Wild card. I just, I think that, I think Dallas has enough pieces to be a playoff team. I don't necessarily see championship or anything above in us, but I definitely think we have enough to be a championship team. I think the projection on the Cowboys is seven and a half games. You got more or less?

More. I think around 9-10. Oh, 9-10 is 10. 10 games playoffs. 9-10, you're going to make the playoffs. No, it's not. Ten, you will. In the NFL, you probably make it.

In the NFL, you might make it on the playoffs. No. Yes. You might make it on that. I don't think that the Cowboys are going to be in that, though, by the way. I think they'll be fourth in their division, unfortunately. I disagree. But, okay.

Oh, you got them fourth in the division. I do. Damn. I do. I think a defense is going to be leaky. I'm anxious to see what that Giants defense looks like on something. I think they're going to be amazing. I think the Giants defense is going to be really good.

They got good receivers. is a competent quarterback. For the first time they got a one and a two receiver. Got a running back. Actually, it's for the first time they got a one receiver. A bona fide one. In a very long time. Since O'Dell, yeah.

So I just think the Giants are going to be better than people give them credit for. I think so, too. Who fell off faster than Ben Simmons? That was fast? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

If you think about the year that Sixers lost to Atlanta, where he didn't make sure that lay up? Yep. I mean he didn't play It's been over since Yeah, it's been over since He was a all-star day From here to now

Nigel he ain't been No no but I'm saying From that year Just to that next year And then he's And people thought it was injuries But he has got back The talk now is retirement

Yeah He's been retired He's been retired I'm worried about him To be honest Mentally Yeah Yeah

He is for me A really really talented Player Mm-hmm Exceptionally talented Who was always never quite figured it out. The scouting reports on him

when he came into the league where he doesn't affect winning enough. He doesn't show up in big games. He's not coachable. He doesn't have a motor. And I think when he got to the NBA, that played out that way. I watched him for those years

struggle with shooting. And I watched him get the ball wide open and wouldn't put a shot up. By the time you got to point, it got in his head. And then when Doc Rivers kind of publicly said, I don't know when I asked the question, about him. And when Joel Embed

also had critiques of him, I think there's shame, there's embarrassment, there's ego. And now the money's going. I'm not saying he's broke. I'm saying like the big contracts are going. He's not going to get another big contract. I worry about his mental state right now. I know people say they don't care because he made all this money, but I'm talking

about just as a human being. I worry about Ben and where he is because he's still a young guy. I think he I think he even really care about basketball. That's what I think. I think that outside of his outside shot and him not having a proficient outside shot, he was still damn near

walking triple double and he'd get damn sure and an elite defender. Lent to a team and I think at some point he just stopped caring about the sport in itself. Like, yo, I don't feel like fucking with y'all. It's like when somebody come in the industry and the industry games and all this shit they don't want to play him, I'm like yo, fuck y'all,

I'm here for the check and I'm out. I think the injuries hit him to you're saying about his mental health, I think I think he's kind of been processed this this point a long time ago this ain't this ain't an abrupt change where it's like

oh shit now it's over I think mentally he been checked out of basketball I agree see the red flag for me is the fact that he's lost an agent he stopped Rich Paul no longer represent him now his most recent agent

let him go yesterday or two days ago when your agents start getting rid of you that's a sign of something else and that's that's what I don't know but anyway we'll see I hope he finds a team. I hope it's the Knicks. You know, what's your fucking man.

Well, after that Jaylon Brunster scandal breaks, after Pablo Torres goes to Jason Brunson, you might need a point guard. You find out he got oil in Wisconsin. I keep telling him, Pablo, look at the Knicks. I would take Ben Simmons if he wanted to play basketball of the Knicks. Y'all get them for the cheat.

Yeah, we'll see what happens. Niggas. 6-9, defender, long arms, can handle the ball, dish the ball. He ain't going to shoot nothing, but you don't need that. Six and a high with a hook. Yo.

He got a hook. Like a hook shot? Oh, my God. I don't, he can make later. My basketball. Oh. You guys. This nigga is stupid.

Is you not immature enough to, too? I caught the call the joke. All right. There's more young thug jail calls, but we can skip it. Yeah. Yeah. This time he's taking aim at three stacks. Hey, Cole.

What do you say he ain't heard two, Andre's songs? He didn't name two years of his songs? I said that, uh, Jay Cole. was never sold as much as NBA young boy, so I don't know. He said Andre didn't put nobody on it. I'm done. He was just bored in jail. Yeah, that's all this. I can't get mad at it. What did he, what do you tell, uh, Glow?

I was in jail just low on life. That's it. I was just low in life, just saying shit. You got it, young dog. It's not like he was on the record saying all this shit. Yeah, you should be able to talk shit in the privacy on home. That's a fun. Or whatever. You're on the record if they're taping. Well, this call is being recorded.

That's the record. I suppose. I suppose they did warn you before you hit five. That's funny. What else? What else? What else needs our attention? Stumbled across another list.

Ooh. Stumbled. And this is the top 50 greatest female rap albums. 50? Okay. Lauren's number one. Of course. Miseducation is one.

Little Kim Hardcore is two. Okay. Missy Elliott, Super Dupa Flies 3 The Brat Functified is 4 That's where I jump off Yeah, you lost me. Yeah, that's my stop right there That's a good album though

It's a wonderful album, I think Foxy Brown Foxy albums, it ain't better than that It ain't better than Queen Latifah That first Queen Latifah I'm better than Cardi for his album Well, let me get through the top 10 Light is a rock Yeah, let me get through the top 10

Five, Rhapsody, Layla's Wisdom Six, Foxy Brown, Il Nana 7, Nicky Manage the pink print uh eight bahamadilla scredo college collage yeah when they bump it nine trina right the baddest and ten is queen latifo black rain i have black rain i have black rain i have like number four or five for me not me i got the first um but you

know no no salt on pepper you're like black rain are you fucking you fucking asshole that salt and pepper uh first album very next oh no Yeah, we fucking. This is what I say. I'll get crap. Just because I don't want to come in and big up Foxy 77 times, nigga. You just agree with me on my Foxy takes. What are you talking about?

No, I like, I think Foxy's... You cold agree with me. No, but it's other people. This is what I like about the list. Hey, take that Salt Pepper shit to the pantry. Salt Pepper appears on the list at 22 with very necessary. That's about right. Fucking crazy.

Salt Pepper's back there with Stetsisonic. Jiggy fans That's the sounding thing So fuck you up Okay 3 5, 5, 7 Goose They back there

With all of them This is what I say About that list though For once They weren't just Going for the biggest star They were actually Talking about a quality album

True I agree Because Black Rain isn't a really good album Collage is an excellent album Layla's wisdom is an excellent album So at least they're trying to actually talk about the albums And not just who's the biggest star

Or who's the biggest name That's true I respect it Where did Carty for on that? we were like 21 or something They're wrong as hell She's in there That Cardi album

Crazy What's the best Nicky album Probably the one is up there Pink print Pink print is the best one Yeah Not bad at that I thought MCLA

I mean Light should be up there somewhere Yeah that light to me That's either one of the first two Yeah Cardi was 21 Hey No yeah that's wrong Give me the teens

I don't curiosity All right All right 20 Emanage, Pink Friday, 19, Lady of Rage, Necessary Roughness. 18, Queen Latifah, All Hail the Queen. Yes, that's another great one. 17. That was the one.

That was the one. The one, Black Ringlet. Yeah, All Her Queen is the one. Got it, got it. 17, no name, telephone. All right, we got to stop. You didn't like that no name album? I didn't hear it.

I like no name, but she should not be in the top. It shouldn't be that high, but that's a great fucking album. I didn't hear it. I like no name. She should not be in the top of the time. I didn't know about that. Oh, I don't know about that. I don't know about that.

You just say that because you guys both own bookstores. She's a book club. All of that. 16. Gene Gray, genius. 15. Missy Elliott, so addictive. Missy got about five albums that could be in this top 20.

Facts. Gangstaboo. Inquirer minds at 14. 13, little Sims. Sometimes I might be introvert. I just came out a couple years ago. It's a good album. Top 20 is insane.

12. MC Light, Light is a rock. Okay. And 11 is Eve Scorpion. Okay. That works. I thought Gene Gray should be hired, too. But I didn't, I want to put genius.

I want to put this week. But that's just me as a Gene Gray fan. But there's a Doja album that goes somewhere in this mix. They probably would consider the Doja rap. I'm a head. I love the Rod Digger album, the first one. That was the other one. Dirty Harriet?

Dirty Harriet. That's a good album. I feel like that about, I think, the first boss album. Okay. You ain't wrong. You got. I think that was Recipe or the album. ad recipe.

Yeah, the album's hard. Dirty Harry, it is 27. Okay. I'd put Dirty Harry a higher too. If you all are telling me that No name, man, I'll go listen to it. It's right. No name is dope. I wouldn't put her in top 20s.

Personally. The album is a little, it's like a monotone. Same issue with Gene. Like, sometimes, like, it's the same, like, tone. It's a little lo-fi, too. It's a little, I don't want to say earlish, but somewhere along that lines. I don't know if you're going to really fully enjoy it. You're not going to like it, but I love it.

It's dope, though. I loved it. Yesterday is my shit. All I love it. need is my shit, Sonny Duet, like all that shit. Like, that's a really good album. It's better than the next no name album, which I think is really good, too. Got it.

Got it. And the boss album, the boss album you referenced, 35. All right, good. All right, that's not doing. At least they had it in mind. They acknowledged it, yeah. At least they had it in mind. I'm not mad at that.

What did you think is? Nothing. What did y'all doing this weekend? Anything fun? Anything lit? Like, I know we covered all the news and all the topics. The first week, football. kickoff.

So, niggas gonna be I might be at that game. I'm thinking about it. I'm really, I might be at the game. You definitely should go out of game. I should, right? What?

You want to watch the games? I'll watch the game. Well, actually, I got a game on Sunday. We're going to watch the game. Oh, shit. And that's the whole school. And GZ's in Jersey.

Where? When? New Jersey Pack Sunday night. Oh, where? He hates me. It's another one of the black tie joints. Oh, okay. Yeah, it makes sense for that.

Yeah. Why Sunday, man. What's up? And it's black tie. Is he doing a half these? So all these have swear black time? Yeah. Like all of the GZ, this whole tour,

niggas have been getting jingied up. That's fly. From state to state to state. It's a 20 year anniversary of TM 101. So he's doing that with the live orchestra and the whole shit. And he's asking all the fans that when you come into Black Tie it up. And you get kicked out if you don't? Nah, you don't get kicked out.

But it's like a suggestion. It's proud of the pot of. Yeah. You're going to look crazy in a, everybody dressed in the 90s and you in there with a hoodie on. When did you say that? was Sunday not gonna cancel the spades game for that I mean I won't have to we should have made quick work of the opponents by the time by the time Jesus up here Mark if you free you can come on Sunday I might be in Philly yeah look at that

as luck would have it oh don't as luck would I reach out I make you I grab a partner and come over there with you guys just I hear you buddy my dad had cards on him in my birthday dinner he damn sure he pulled me to the side always got I said, fam, that's what you're doing And you will really sit right here What? He said, let me show you with a real player, dude Yo, if somebody had

Open up his jacket and put on a deck of fucking space 50 a man, he'll sit right there Yeah, I was impressed That cake What? That's crazy Amani, do you play Spades? A random partner

Me, you could be Spades partners You never played? Okay, we're talking from Patreon, bro. Yeah, he played Dominole. He ain't really black, he's Puerto Rican. Play dominoes, right? Dominoes.

See? See, look, look. Yeah. They got excited. Domino's mufflers. Eating Gucci. Yeah. They said mufflers.

That's the Puerto Rico trifecta. Yeah, that's a chappaccarra. In a heartbeat. Spades, he don't know, but give a civic. We do, we do. We did different cuts over here. Rap br-br-br-br-br-r-r-r-h. Shit ain't going nowhere.

Loud as hell. He said, we cut different on this side. Sure enough. Bring that Civic down here. y'all hold it down out there man I hope you all have a good week and enjoy some of this some of the last of this good weather

that weekend in New York if you're outside go ahead and be outside I've seen a tweet the other day niggas was like you niggas is 38 talking about some cuffing season

go go get a job oh shit no they say go Go get your blood check to some shit damn Oh man

Make sure Them levels right All right All right man I ain't doing done this week And my baby gone Man

So I'll just be in the house Sad Lonely Oh Miserable I don't really know What to do Without her

So I'll just be in the house Man Probably crying Mm-hmm Regular shit Depressed Wipe them tears

Away at 1230 Oh shit Call so Oh shit Find out where you're at. Oh, Goddy. What's up? What you're on, though?

Chilling. Just chill. You're outside of me. Stop talking to me. To tell him, I'm chilling. The thing is not chilling. Yeah, what's you on? Nothing chilling at all.

Anytime you put on the, Sergio, what you got on? Anytime you put that on, you're going to be. I thought it was a camo shorts. Well, no. But it's the combination. No, it's the dad because they match with anything. But when you put that Sergio on, it's time to be a man of the night. You do that you're trying to go outside.

Stop with this time to be a man of the night now. Man of the night with some jeep. You got this military shorts. Yeah, it were. Military short to us. Stupid eyes. Man of the night. Those are not military shorts.

You are correct. Those are a designer. You know, they're from the Army Navy. I can tell. Shit's got a different kind of stitch. Yeah. The stitch is different. Just get you caught.

And they fit different. them should be baggy as hell at the military store. I'm shit. I'm the real shit. I know. Listen, y'all hold it down now there, man. Play it a heavy-d-d version, man. First and peace, heavy-dee.

Oh. You know what I'm saying? You can't get that? Why? You told him to play. He already had it on. No, that wasn't it at first. He just switched it to that.

That's what it was. That's what it was. You kidding you that was heavy-d? That was it. He played the first one and then it was already playing. Everybody can't tell the difference. It was already. I'm playing when you told him to play the Heavy D version.

And if you say something else, we'll hit a rewind. If you say it's like, look at my heart. Look at my heart. You just can't, you just hit that on. It's okay. It's okay. Just walk away, bro. It was always.

It was always. I think it's to be making the big deal by the last one. Let's play it again. It's totally right. Rest of peace, heavy D. Rest and peace to Abby D. Listen, man. He said, play the Heavy D verse.

shit. A nigga like diddly, dittly. What the fucking is that? Y'all keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Hopefully you enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you.

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