The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 865 | "Titty F***ing Republicans"
Episode Date: October 1, 2025The latest episode from the JBP begins with Bad Bunny being named as the 2026 Super Bowl halftime performer (20:03) before turning to new music including Jeezy’s new album Still Snowin’ (34:50). J...oe wants to do a proper review of Young Thug’s new project (48:20) as well as react to his thoughts on therapy following an appearance on The Pivot Podcast (1:01:20), Kai Cenat reaches 1 million subscribers during Mafiathon 3 in which the room reacts to the rap freestyle segments of the stream (1:21:14), and the Cardi B and Nicki Minaj feud continues (2:05:00). Also, Diddy’s sentencing takes place later this week (2:31:49), Joe and Marc react to the New York Mets missing the playoffs (3:00:36), TELFAR and Timberland collabs (3:07:54), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden
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get your voices right
my voice ain't gonna get right
my voice ain't gonna get right
nope
we good this what it is
yeah
heard it's popping in the club
gotta get right
hey
let's get right
you know about that
we're up in this piece
Mike Mike Mike
what's up
Mike what's up
no I just noticed
there's no chair here
we've removed the cheer
Joe I came in here
at like 10 o'clock
and sat here for a half hour
and there was no furniture
and I didn't notice.
Yeah, I walked in and I was like,
what, damn, what's going on?
And Mark was like, oh.
Yeah, I mean, the fuck is Park Starger
but I looked at the whole place was empty.
Yeah, I'm glad I missed that.
I thought y'all moved out.
I thought y'all fixed it back.
Hey, Corey, I'm glad you got it back together
before I got it.
Oh, yeah.
Me and Corey lifted the couches and stuff back in.
Yeah, he tried to hit me yesterday and say,
hey.
Mark did not do that.
That was Erickson.
I didn't think it was Mark.
I get black people mixed up.
Okay.
One of us.
I got me, but I supervised it.
Glad that this thing is back looking like you're supposed to look.
What?
What's going on, man?
You're going to shit?
Me?
And let me know what happened?
Yeah.
No, the couches came.
I bought the wrong couches.
So they had to take them out.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, that's all.
And then Corey thought that, and this was after they had carried them all the way up here.
Couldn't fit an elevator.
So they wasn't about to come back up and help Corey put the couches back.
So he hit me, you.
Like, I put the couch's back.
Yeah, all right, put them back.
Did you respond to put your phone down?
You're looking.
But my thing is Corey know me better than that.
Corey knows me better than that.
You're not going to put no couch in back.
He should have known that that meant tomorrow when Eric's getting here.
You get us right.
Yeah, we're fucking forward.
What's up, y'all?
How are you doing, man?
Good, man.
Excellent, man.
Good, good, good.
Good.
Happy to see y'all.
For sure.
You're looking good.
You're smelling good.
Yes, yes.
Flip, what up, man.
something, my nigga. I see you got that Lulu Lemon on.
Yeah, you were making jokes about it earlier.
Don't try to jump in front of them.
No, no, no.
This is when the...
You're not going to tell you, man, do this?
This is when the murder doc does a reenact man.
It's not really dumb, but this is what happened.
Yeah, tell me.
You got your Lulu Lemon on.
I do.
Why?
Wait, what's Lulu Lemon?
Isn't that thing?
I thought women wore that.
What's...
Oh, shit.
No, I'm not being funny.
No, you're being funny.
Lulu Lemon.
I swear to God, my daughter's guilt shop, I didn't know that...
I don't know what it is exactly.
Lulu Lemon is.
It is, uh, ath-hleisure.
Shapeware.
This gym clothing.
He's drawing funny.
He's trying to be funny.
I mean, but Mark, you are correct, though.
Women typically, they make men stuff.
Yo, women typically do you.
Got it.
It's like lame right.
See, already we being sexist and ignorant and immature.
That's not true.
That's what we do.
A woman, a woman started this company.
Okay.
That's the fact.
And they had a flip in mind.
They made men.
and women's clothing
from the beginning
from the start
Okay
They still do
And it's like shape
It's like shape
It's shape
Girls wear
If you ever see girls
With body
Where the types that
Like have a design
On them
Like the outlines
Are where certain curves be
Yeah
That's typically Lula Limit
But anyway
Wait so where's your outlines
At
Yo
I'm going
I'm starting the gym
Man
So you know
I'm getting myself prepared
Oh I like that
You're all right
A guy named Jim
I'm starting
A gym
New cameraman
Yeah
Really?
Nah.
Are you working in his back?
Watch your fucking...
But how did you begin wearing Lulu Lemon was our question?
None of your business.
None of your business.
I've seen you in a lot of stuff.
So you...
Are you saying that you were the influence?
Lulu Lemon.
Are you saying you were the influence?
No, I'm asking you a question
to get some honesty so we can have a vulnerable
guy-to-guy conversation.
I'm not saying that I influenced you.
That's not what I'm saying about.
Oh, I make sure.
Correct that.
See, you don't know what I'm saying,
which is the funny thing.
Because we told Flitt,
I asked him, how did you start wearing this
since he don't want to play along?
And he said
Nah, that was all me
And then I said
No it wasn't
No it wasn't
No it was it
No I said that's not how that story starts
Why do you like to slow walk the dog
Or slow cook the pork?
Because I tried to include you
You got out of my plane
You slow cooking the park
Tell me what you're thinking
Hey
You think I'm out there
Somebody put me on a
What are you thinking
Once upon a time
In like 2011
I was in a mall
Beautiful year
with a beautiful young lady from Tampa.
Shout out to her.
She's married, so I won't say her name.
Ish no one.
Of course.
Shout out Ish.
Shout out.
Shout to no motherfucker.
Anyway.
And we were in a mall, shout to my brother.
And we were in the mall.
And the young lady said, it might even been 2010-ish.
And she said, y'all got to run a Lulu Limit.
And I said, what the fuck is that?
And she said, the whole thing we're doing now,
aphleisure.
It's like men, weird, women, we're just,
really big thing. You never heard a little limit? I said, no, I never heard a little limit.
And she said, I got to bring you the little limit. She brought me in there and it changed my time.
Okay. And ever since I've been wearing a little limit. Okay. What I'm telling you is no guy got out
at bed. No black man from where we from got out of bed and said, you know what? He's wearing cash beer sweatpants. You can fight back.
Let me, no, no, no, no, but from Alo. I like him. From Alo. From Alo. From Alo. More, more. More, more.
More ath leisure.
And not only that, when out...
Those are a workout pants?
No.
These are pants from a workout.
Right. Company.
He wanted to fill the wind between his wings.
That's all it is.
That's it.
A-Lo almost got me.
Yeah.
I'm going to be perfectly honest.
I was in A-Lo.
Oh, we bunch of baddies up here.
Yo, I was in.
Y'all put me on this shit.
With my girl.
She picking out some shit.
And then, you know, you're just walking around.
Sure.
And it's called HALO.
A-L.
A-E-L.
Oh, okay.
It's not a act.
I'm walking around.
I'm like, oh, they got some fly shit for dudes in here.
Then I'm like, I'm not going to do it.
I was close.
Yeah, I'm going to keep it to him.
No, because the shit is fly.
It's fly shit.
It's the way that you shaped.
How I'm shaped, Joe?
Like Humpty Dumpty.
Like Humpty Dumpty?
That's a square.
The clothes are going to look better as you get more.
You know what I mean?
On your journey.
Yeah.
So did you get this because of your journey?
Flip?
Yeah.
Okay.
That's what's up.
It looks good.
I like it.
Thank you.
I'm fronting.
Listen, my daughter and my wife.
You should in front, you should work.
My daughter, my daughter, no, I'm not front about that.
My daughter been talking about going a little lemon.
I came up here, I heard y'all niggas talking about it.
So I went and I said, you heard that little lemon shit
the niggas talking about?
My daughter said, yes, I've been told you this.
She showed me her cart.
I had this.
How old is your daughter?
16 now.
Yeah, it was expensive.
The princess told me that.
And then Linky said the same thing.
So then I went to the mall.
Oh, you're supposed to Linky.
Oh, that's what's up?
That's dope.
Fokelinking.
That's a lot.
Shout to Lincoln.
You know what I mean?
You think that's why I'm right to die.
Right?
Still alive.
Oh shit.
What did you just sell on my wife?
Nothing.
Did you lose your mind?
Are you crazy?
Oh, shit.
No, I love this shit.
Yeah, I'm supposed to linkie, man.
She cursed me the fuck out yesterday.
I told I wanted to move a chef in the house.
Move in?
Yeah.
Is she a guy, chef?
Yeah, no.
I told I'm sure.
Did you show with a chef?
I did.
Was he buff?
No, her thing was, her thing was, and I understand what she was saying.
Her thing was that when you first mentioned the chef was coming here, that you wanted a chef here, you didn't say anything about them staying here.
That's what was her thing.
And I told us, so what?
That's what I told at the time.
Well, you want a chef to live in your house?
That's weird.
I don't think it's weird.
No, listen, I really want to.
I think it's more expensive.
Yeah, it is expensive one, too.
And not worth it.
The thing about it, that's what people were saying.
But I want to really work on my health, all jokes aside.
And, well, you skipped a lot of steps.
Now, he did better.
You only ate.
How many of them nuggets did you eat?
Four.
Yeah, normally it's like seven by now.
Yeah.
By the time you get to the chef living with you is a few other steps that maybe we could have taken.
Like what?
Tell me.
Exercise.
Yeah, like.
Stop eating.
Just chicken nuggets.
If you change your diet, the way that you look at how many meals you'll even need will change.
Yeah.
Like, why not try a, you skip meal prep?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got somebody for you, right?
um she does this for our she does this for us and i got not know a few people they'll come in your
house to cook one day a week they'll prep the meals for four or five six days how many days you
want give you the three meals that way you don't need somebody to live in your house just have
prepped the meals they put in your fridge and you can just heat them up you see what I'm saying
and you have healthy meals they're portioned out you know exactly how many calories you know what
went into it it's all natural organic stuff that's you'll be five times cheaper to
have somebody living in your crib yeah so i'm just telling you don't have some random person living
in your house exactly unless that's what you want you don't be home
He doesn't get a fuck
Who about to live there?
I do, I do be home
But that was a conversation
Watch your fucking mom,
nigga
Hey yo,
that's my house
And my home,
I'm not scattered like you
mentally.
Listen,
at the end of the day,
at the end of the day,
though,
she wanted to have that conversation
I was being ignorant,
just being on some bullshit
and I was like,
man, I can do what I want.
Guy to my,
do what I want bag.
Not you.
I do what I want.
You can't tell me nothing,
you know.
And nobody better be rude to my chef
when they come here.
I don't talk of shit.
All right, watch.
Well, good luck with that.
Yeah.
How'd that work out, though?
It didn't work out good, but I stand on that now.
Yeah, but the chef ain't moving in?
That's not true.
Well, I don't know.
He went straight to the clothes, and now he's going straight to the livid.
I wish your luck.
I wish you luck, man.
I'm just trying to get to it, yo.
Get a treadmill.
Get a treadmill.
I'm inspired.
I'm going to A-Law.
I'm a walking, pal.
I'm going to go A-Lo and get you a little something.
Thank you.
I appreciate this, man.
It's some shit.
I go to A-Lo so much.
One of the workers had to stop one of the other workers from racially profiling me.
Oh, shit.
That's how much I'd be in there.
They must have made a new hire or something.
I came in there on, like, laundry day, bumming it.
They was looking at me with their little walking talking with friends.
Them bitches.
And they checked her.
Hey.
No, no, not him.
Just leave him alone.
He'd do a lot in here.
I got you.
I'm going to get you some shit.
You're looking, bro.
I appreciate that, man.
I got you.
What's up with y'all?
What's good?
You're good?
You're good?
Great, great.
You're good?
Yes, sir.
Good.
I'm glad to hear that.
Mark, you're all right?
I'm hanging in there.
Good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good.
Mike check, Mike check.
To it.
Audience, how y'all feel it out there?
Mm.
Good.
Yeah, this fucking computer.
Turn me up.
Straight like that.
Straight like that.
Yeah, niggum.
It's a guy.
Mike check one two one two mic check one two one two what's popping out
there big charity big charity what up
Super free yeah you know I want a super free
Now you know I need a super freak
Yeah you know I want a super freak
Yeah you know I'm a super freak
I got it for you freeze I got it for you freeze
freeze as for what we give it to him
whole ATL what's going on out there
shout to wherever you might be listening from 08 for the ladies
always for the ladies
Nope.
I got court tomorrow.
No.
Oh, need to show.
I got shit to do.
Only God can judge.
Who the fuck is you?
Hey!
Nika we're that.
Hey!
All the dope boys out there, everybody getting money out there.
Shout to the first and last time listen.
Shout to the patro.
Wow!
Wow!
Yeah!
Hey!
Kill yourself, yeah, I'm a suicide rocks.
Have a murder right to be a dear young man.
You should have known, bell.
I paid too much, you niggas play too much.
I just swear you to talk and I don't say too much.
You niggas say it too much.
You niggas say it too much.
Hey!
I definitely fuck some buttons up on his computer somewhere.
What the hell you was doing that ain't?
I have no, down here.
How about doing nothing?
Shut up.
They say who that?
They're going to be that.
Shown red on the train.
They say who that?
They're going to be that.
They're going to be that.
Yes, sir!
Rest the piece, Backlow Fresh!
Wake it up there!
L-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-A-L-N-N-A-Lews your Bands!
Yo!
Come from on the road, well, you know we tax home.
You want a whole thing, hit me on the platform.
Good nigger, hot chill what I snack on.
Good nigger, it ain't nothing to get you at home.
Trout, nigger, niggas, serve you back to back down.
Don't want to be a trout, nigger clone.
Standing in the kitchen with my wife beat up
Oh
Whatever the new action I did
It does help with the
Yes sir
I did
Because I'm out of bitches in the corner
I'm gonna do the trick
Head time
I did
I did hear this outside this weekend
I heard it outside
I did
I did.
What did it do?
Because I didn't say shit when host was all your fucking mind.
Look.
I remember.
It was a long intro.
I wanted to play that motherfucker right here.
You said you heard it outside.
What it do?
Everything.
Everything is supposed to do.
At least in New York City.
At least in New York City.
At least in the Boogie Down.
Lease in the Bronx.
I ain't going to hold you.
Not for a buggy.
That man keeps his applause going for the best crew in the universe.
going for the best crew in the universe.
Let's get these drops out the way.
Who is that?
Is Mark to my head, pussy, pussy?
New Flip.
And Flip is in the building.
What episode is this?
865.
Welcome to episode 865 of the J.BP
brought to you by, fueled by power by Pricep.
Pryce, gang.
Yeah.
I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here.
Host your button here with some really amazing people
amazing people to my right.
Queens get the money.
Queens flip is here.
To his right.
Dr. Mark Lamar Hill is in the building.
To his right, big freeze, the freesious of the mall.
Mr. Tick and further himself is here.
To his right, Omyra's finest, big parks is in the building.
Poets here, Corey's here.
Erickson is here, Tanner and Savon are here by remote last,
but certainly, certainly not least.
Each and every one of you guys are here.
How are you guys doing?
How are you guys doing?
How's anybody feeling what's Papa?
What's Papa?
It's falling in New York.
Yeah, it feels good going outside the little, little lights early 60s.
Yeah.
Fucking burning hot early in the morning.
Stupid-ass sun.
Enough.
Enough now.
All right.
Throwing the hoodies back on.
Yeah.
I'm ready for hoodie weather.
Yeah.
Same.
How y'all, how was your weekend?
Chill, man.
I didn't really do shit.
Had a nice little phone off weekend.
Chill, wouldn't see the movie.
Went to see a movie.
Yeah.
What did you think?
I thought it was absolutely fantastic.
We can talk about it later.
Unless you want to do it now
No, we can talk about it later
And then I just chill, man
Watch football, man
That's it, kept it light
Pretty did the same
I was like, kept the light all weekend
Watch football
I finally saw
The hip movie
I'm sorry
Yeah, I will talk about that
Well, I'll give my parts later
But that's it
I ain't do nothing else
Yeah, I ain't do shit man
I was in the
Spent most of my time
At the auto mechanic
I popped like two tires
Apparently driving on the side
The road
New Jersey is very dangerous
For your car
Or in the middle of the road
In New Jersey
the Jersey Roads, period.
Yeah, New York Road to.
You need Thai insurance.
Yeah, but him, specifically, have y'all seen Mark drive?
No, I never have.
No.
I'm a very good driver.
Just dangerous.
Batman.
Oh.
Worse to me?
Yeah.
Because you still obey, like, some of the loss.
He don't give a fuck.
Oh, yeah.
I'm a great driver.
He don't care.
Mark don't give a fuck.
Oh, yeah.
If my wife ain't in a car, especially because I'm usually going to get my son or something like that,
like when I leave here, oh, all rules are off.
Man, I'm, I see Waze as like a personal chat.
So, like, if it says, like, an hour and 20, I try to get there an hour.
I do the side of the road.
I merge on the other side.
I make the U-turn in the middle of the highway.
I do whatever I can to shave five, six minutes off at the time.
But it's fucking up my tires, man.
And I got to pulled over this week.
No shit.
Yeah, but I can see if I didn't even get pulled over doing none of that shit.
I got pulled over doing, uh, they said illegal use of a cell phone and doing 45 in the school zone.
I knew that was going to happen after your assizes you go to the radar shit.
You on the radar now.
I figured the New Jersey police would have.
Jersey Drive, niggies.
have something to say about that one.
They're listening, you know.
Anyway, I'm glad
to see everybody made it here, all right?
Y'all are looking good.
Yes, sir.
You're smelling good.
We all...
A lot of things need our attention.
Well, how was y'all weekend?
Y'all didn't...
Yeah, we care about y'all, too.
I did absolutely nothing.
Same thing.
That's why I was...
I was resting my foot.
My foot was fucked up.
Oh, that's your swollen, crazy, last.
Did you get it looked at?
It was really, really bad.
Yeah, I looked at it.
Did you go to the doctor,
I looked at it?
No, nigger.
I didn't go to the doctor.
I'm black.
I looked at it
I walked to the kitchen
butt ass
You don't learn do you
It was nippy
And you're not breaking generational
Curse
Walk into the fridge
Budass
When it's nippy in your house
And your foot don't work
Is just funny
I was in there
Dragging his foot
On the sleep
Somebody would tape it my shit
I know they were
Anyway
Is the foot better?
It looks less swollen
Yeah no it's a lot
It's a lot better
I got a good ice pack.
I've iced it all weekend.
Oh, good.
I don't think anything is really damaged in there.
So I'm all right.
I'm right, thank God.
But that's what I did.
I missed my good brother,
Nodge was having the kickball joint down the street.
I missed that.
Shout to Nodge and everybody else at a kickball tournament.
But that was it.
That's it.
I want to almost start skipping that part of the pod.
More than likely, I didn't do anything.
You on our side now.
That's normally what our shit be.
We ain't do nothing.
Yeah, so when I did try to step out the other night
and my girl said something, I put my foot down.
Shut up.
Which foot, though?
Shut up.
The good foot.
I put my good foot down.
Shut up.
I've been out for five months.
It's over.
I'm going out.
Five months?
No, I'm lying.
No, no, I know.
In Joe time, that's like a week.
I said over a month.
You want to pull up the receipts.
No, it was just two weeks ago.
Just two, three weeks ago.
You are a psycho, bitch.
Anyway, where do you want to start?
A lot of things need our focus
and attention.
Let's start with Bad Bunny.
Hey!
Let's go, Park!
Bad Bunny!
Look at Park!
Now, can we get through
this conversation
without y'all just saying
you're gay?
It depends on how hard
you go for bad money.
Without saying you're gay
or without saying, I'm gay.
Me.
Okay.
Because that's usually
how the bad bunny conversations
go up here.
Really?
Yes.
I'd be thinking
that we're mad supportive
of your bad bunny fanfare.
Yeah, we fuck with that.
A little bit, but we don't,
usually the conversation
gets halted very quickly
with just, oh, you're a little gay.
Well, that's two things to be true.
You might be.
I don't mind the gay jokes.
If you were a little gay.
He's one of the biggest artists in the world.
We should, like...
If you were a little gay,
I don't think it's because of your band Bunny fan fear of it.
I agree.
I agree 100%.
All right, we will not call you gay during the segment.
Yeah, well, wait.
Let's not make any commitments.
How did you feel?
Where were you when the news broke?
I was at the movie theater, and I didn't have a phone,
so I got home and I saw, I say congratulations.
I was like, I don't know what that means, but...
That's why you say shit.
I'm like that.
I didn't even acknowledge it.
I didn't see it until many hours later.
I was confused because I didn't go on Twitter or anything.
So I was just like, oh, shit, okay.
Bad Bunny's headline in the Super Bowl.
I think it's fucking amazing, personally.
He's one of the biggest artists in the world.
The NFL is clearly trying to expand to a global audience,
particularly in Spanish-speaking countries.
Why would they not pick the biggest artist to represent that?
This is amazing.
And it's going to be all in Spanish, from what I'm here.
Yeah, I'm sure.
What was it going to be in, Mark?
Well, sometimes they'll do like two English songs
or to have another artist come out to do a couple of English songs.
so the Americans feel good.
Got it, got, got, got it.
Oh, you think he's not bringing anybody out?
That's what I'm saying.
I think it's going to be an entirely...
What I've heard so far is it's going to be an entirely Spanish-speaking before.
You ain't got a bad bunny insider.
I got a Super Bowl insider.
Ooh, shit.
We call those.
We call home.
Talk that shit.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, I think that would make people...
I think that would excite people.
On two...
On two people...
Depend on the way.
There's the people who weren't happy about it.
Wait, before we get there,
is everyone in the room happy about it?
this. I am very happy. I'm ecstatic about it. I don't care about it. I don't care. I don't listen
to Bad Bunny. Yeah, I don't listen. We should try it. This is one of those where there's been
plenty of Super Bowl right half times in the past where I'm like oh that's just not for me. Cool.
Now I go do something else. It's 15 minutes. I'm going to end of the world. I'm conflicted.
You like Bad Bunny though. I love him. Let me guess. Let me guess. And I need some slaves
on this halftime show. Oh. You know you pro black? Yeah, I know. I know. I want
He's cotton on this halftime show.
He's going to talk on 1876, man.
Mr. Button, one of the top buttons with the...
No, nigger.
My granddaddy built this stadium.
I need some goddamn representation.
Let's go.
You know, he'll play a shoot.
Yeah, go ahead, man.
My money might be black.
Well, at least before he got that jaw surgery.
Anyway.
But I'm a little conflicted here, and I'm going to try to, I'm going to keep my
confliction brief because I support bad buddy.
I want to see him do this.
I think he's going to kill.
I think he's got the songs, the records.
Yep, he does.
Some of them girls that dubbed y'all Super Bowl party invite this year, they'll come.
They're coming.
Oh, no, they'll be there.
It's going to be a very female friendly Super Bowl.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
This is like a step under Rihanna Super Bowl.
Oh, me too.
For them, I'm talking about it.
I don't think it's a step under.
Nah.
In terms of what it does to the women in your living room.
Like, I threw a Super Bowl party when Rihanna was there.
All of us was just there watching Rihanna.
But that's because in her defense, you know, Rihanna was pregnant.
She didn't really, she didn't really Rihanna that.
But that's the difference, I think.
It's today, this year, it might have a little more impact than Rihanna did that.
Particularly just because of the circumstances that Rihanna was in.
Buddy, they left America in droves.
to go to Puerto Rico to watch this dude.
I know some people that went multiple times.
Yeah.
International, I don't know if you're any of the other side of the big Apple Music,
Fuerreida had a concert, you probably didn't see it.
But Fuerreira is a really big group.
They're from California, but they're Mexican origin, Mexican like in roots.
And they do like, they fill up Mexico Stadium, 65,000 people.
And a lot of people went from Southern California, Northern California
to Mexico City this past weekend.
It was live on Apple Music.
The shit was crazy.
That's what this is going to be like times 10, I think.
Also, not for nothing, we didn't talk about it, but the Bad Bunny concert series in Puerto Rico, there is a live stream that they did two weeks ago on Amazon Prime.
Yep.
And it's phenomenal.
So if you want to get some insight of what this might look like.
I saw about an hour of that, it really was phenomenal.
Because now when I go on my dad's house, there had to be a Saturday night.
It was a Saturday, yeah.
Dropping the kid off to hit the street.
Anyway, anytime I go to my dad's house and Bad Bunny is around, actually, since they've been to the Knit game,
I can't stop hearing about Bad Bunny from my dad's house.
And that's what I'm saying about, like,
when I gave my dad those Nick tickets,
the Joe Button Seats,
and Bad Bunny was seated right in front of him,
I know his wife.
Yeah.
His wife got anxiety and will be loud
and will have no celebrity etiquette.
And he was just an absolute sweetheart to my dad and his wife.
Like he was great to them.
Took all of the pictures, signed all of the autographs.
That's nice.
Like whatever image you had, whatever image I had from him taking the fan phone and throwing it, like, it's out the window.
You can't say them about Bad Bunny to me now.
The music is good, and he seems to be a really great person.
Adult person.
So I don't, I think this is super fly.
Yeah.
I also thought that there was some people that I would have loved to see before him.
Who?
No.
Tell us.
It's not important.
I'm not stepping on Bad Bunny's moment.
It don't matter.
Those people don't matter.
But how do, but I ask who because.
Because you're a messy bitch
No, no, no
Because you're a messy bitch
I know why you're asking
Pot kettle, no
I know what
I ain't saying it
You say it's a pod
I'm not saying
Put your balls on the tape
I'm saying
There were certain people
That were asked
And they declined it as well
Like he wasn't the number one
There was other people
Like who
Adele
Taylor Swift
Oh no
Taylor Swift declined
Yes
I can see that
Oh yes
Please thank God
Yeah word
Thank God
Although I think she'll put out a good show
The people I'm talking about
A black
yeah look there you go there you go
I'm talking about black people
we know
who you're talking about there
you're a messy bitch
no I'm not
I'm just trying to I said some names
you know me long enough to know
some of the people I'm thinking about
he's not getting it
who he's not getting it
I wasn't talking about Chris
okay come on
and I wouldn't
I would put bad
let's not step on bad Bunny's moment
I don't want to do that
bad Bunny is gonna listen
if you think you on the fence about
I think he wins you over
for sure
he wins you over
if you're gonna watch him live
he's gonna win you over
they put a lot of money
in that Amazon set and the smoke and dancers.
That's how it looked in the arena, by the way.
Yeah.
Like, that show was phenomenal being there in person,
even from my nosebleed section.
It was an accurate representation of how the concert went.
So he performs.
Like, it wasn't no backup singers or backup tracks.
He was out there singing and rapping with live instrumentation.
He's a phenomenal performer,
and the production value is super high.
This is going to be a great performance.
I see the other thing.
And I love the, I'm sorry, Fries, and I love the fact that, you know, he put out the message that I'm not performing in America and fear that ICE may come get some of my fans and I'm not supporting that.
So for him to be performing in America this way, like it's flying.
I saw a lot of people fighting back on that.
And I don't think that they understand what that means.
A bad bunny concert at an arena, yes, ICE will be there.
There will be people in danger.
Bad Bunny performing at the Super Bowl in front of billionaires.
and very rich people
is probably not going to bring up
that many ice people putting people in danger.
Ice is not rating
a stadium at the Super Bowl.
The people that's going to the Super Bowl
are going,
don't matter who the halftime performer is.
Y'all got the NFL spoke to ice, y'all.
They did.
The NFL spoke to ICE.
They got the paperwork sign.
Hey, y'all can't come in here.
Don't fuck up our shit.
Yeah.
This is bigger than you.
But what I was saying about Bad Bunny
is I don't understand any of you.
Bad Bonnie.
but that's the thing about just good music though
you don't know good music is just good music
right I've heard you play certain records
and I'm like oh this shit fly I don't know a word he's saying
right this shit just sound good
and I sing what it do when they hear it
yeah yeah and see I know that you believe that
so I don't get your Afro beats take
thank you because I agree with you
right but again I just don't like the Afro
we need to go back to Afrobees
We're not we not we not
It just does bad bunny shit sounds good
it to me.
And everyone does not hear that.
It don't.
That's all.
It's all.
It's got to get it.
And not for nothing.
If anybody ever takes the time and maybe you will, maybe you won't.
And I think Apple music makes it easy now with, I think they have translations.
If you look at his lyrics, especially with this album in particular, he's very, uh, there's a lot
of love songs and just regular for the host records, but there's also a lot of records
with political meanings and implications or cultural meanings and implications to Puerto
Regan particularly.
That's dope.
So the success he's had this year with that album in particular, critically and commercially, this
is the year to do it. And with his, his, um, the show you went to with that residency. They said he bought
what, like 700, something. Three quarters of a billion dollars to his, a million dollars to his hometown.
Yeah. That's crazy. If it was a state, would be the poorer state in the country. Right.
So you bring three, seven hundred and fifty million dollar. Yeah, buy yourself.
Yo, that's fucking amazing. It's amazing. But shout out to him. I don't think there's anybody.
Taylor Swift will probably be the only person who I think you can make a good argument for this year.
who would be at that level
and you're telling me
that she declined
kind of makes sense to me
because she has an album
coming on, I think.
She's coming out.
By the way, she was certified
today, the first female artist
to hit 100 million R-I-A.
So again, that makes sense.
But when you look at who's streaming
the highest, who's getting,
I mean, bad bunny is number two.
Bad Bunny is number two.
That's what I'm saying.
It ain't nobody else to compete.
I was a little frustrated
with some of the people online
who were saying
some pretty ignorant things.
I don't want to get into all of it,
but just to say, like,
they were trying to almost discredit
him and because they didn't have a good argument for
instead of just saying you don't want him doing it
they try to say well we needed a big artist there is no bigger artist
there is no more popular artists there is no more streaming
artist that was going to be in this mix people just live in their bubbles
if I don't know it it ain't popular right and it's that's all it is
a lot of times I know nothing I saw all the time yo name five bad bunny
records well I don't have to right to know what he's doing we know that I can't
name one and I still know what he's doing right yeah name
your artists that you could name
5, 10, 15, 20 records can't go sell out
30. How many shows he did?
30-something. 30-something shows
they can't do it in the same place.
They can't do it.
Where's the Super Bowl at?
San Francisco.
Yeah.
Eagles are going to be
whoever.
They got Puerto Rican.
They got Puerto Rican's out there.
It's a strong Latin community.
Maybe not Puerto Rican.
We're going to find out.
They'll be there.
Money will bring all the Latinos.
I ain't got to be Puerto Rican,
Mexicans, Dominicans, Guatemala.
Everybody who speak Spanish
going to be in that motherfucker man.
It's going to be great.
It's going to be great.
The parties in the area is going to be.
What?
That's where it's at.
Fuck the Super Bowl.
Right.
Catch one of them.
Can't miss.
Well, congratulations to Bad Bunny.
Congratulations.
We'll be watching it, if not there.
So, Joe.
You think about going?
Every year we think about going.
Yeah.
For you, it does it depend on who's
playing yes okay for sure assuming it's the eagles playing against somebody from the from the
afc does that make you does that make you do it no wow what teams would make you do
yeah i'll i know the giants but move that but what other teams would make you do you know what
it's it's not it's it's team based but it's momentum based um it's momentum based like the eagles
went sequin had a uh all career year the momentum wasn't
dear for me. I'm talking about like
if Detroit would have made it,
if the Ravens would have made it. Somebody that
hasn't been there, fan base
is nuts. Got you. Willing to travel
the fan base parties.
Like if Buffalo makes it. Yeah, if Buffalo
Detroit. Yeah, that would be crazy.
Buffalo would make that a good
time. Buffalo fans would make that
a good time for people.
They were. They would put on an amazing show
an amazing game. I loved what they did
when Hamlin was fucked up over there.
Buffalo fans
I'm just saying it depends on the team
It depends on the team
That makes sense
Got it
I don't have that with the Eagles
I don't have that with
Some of the more obnoxious
fan bases
So you wouldn't go for the Giants
Huh
Probably not
Okay good
That's my team
I would want to see that on TV
Right
Even yeah
Oh that's interesting
If it's my team
I want to see it on TV
Yeah I would agree with that
The Dolphins made the
The Super Bowl
That's playoffs
Prodean slip
I don't know if I would want to see that in person
Yeah, I want them to use all of them
Million and billion-dollar cameras
All of those angles
The commentators, I want to hear them
I'm almost like that with their games too
I went to the
I think it was the AFC championship game
That the Steelers played the Jets
Years ago
Ain't nothing like being in there
When your team is in that game
And that wasn't even the Super Bowl
But that energy being in there
You can't match that shit
I would love to go
If my team is in the Super Bowl
I want to see that one there
I don't care what is that
Really good tickets would be the thing.
I gave my dad the amazing Yankee World Series tickets that we had.
Like, I'm just not the type that wants to be in that crowd of people.
I wanted to see it once.
I saw the Phillies win the World Series in 2008.
I loved it.
But I can live without saying anything.
You know what I don't need to be there.
And it's also different being in your hometown when you win a championship versus the Super Bowl
where you're in another city and you're part of a section of people.
You know what I mean?
It's a different vibe.
Half of whom were probably a fan of neither team.
See that.
Yeah, like, Philly did it already.
That one where Kevin Hart was trying to get on the thing
and they shoved them away, that was the time to be there.
Right.
That's what I'm saying.
Now we've won another one since then.
I'm kind of good.
It's cool.
But see, as a Steeler fan, we everywhere.
Yeah, y'all got a big ass.
So I don't care where that Super Bowl is.
If Pittsburgh is there, that's going to be a Pittsburgh home game.
Yeah, that's true.
So it will feel like we didn't fucking.
I'll have to worry about that for a while.
Yeah, it's fine.
I was thinking about you on Sunday
and I was a little frustrated with you.
Uh-oh.
What did you?
You got beef already.
It's not beef.
It's just,
Sunday's the day that I listen to new music.
Okay.
And I had a list of new music to listen to.
But I put at the top of the list for you,
the new GZ album.
Okay.
Still snowing.
GZ and drama mix.
Still snowing.
Let's do it.
DJ drama.
I put it on.
And an hour later,
I feel like you or GZ owes me 999.
why let me hear
I just it was
I
actually
let me preface this
GZ is a giant to me
GZ is a legend to me
and I like almost
I like every GZ project
before this one
okay
so I was expecting
the same thing
I just I just couldn't
there's one or two
one or two tracks
I could live with
but overall no
overall for me
it was not what I wanted
from Gizi
and I understand that
y'all know
I talked to y'all about this
When I first had the album, I came in and was like,
yo, let me prep y'all now.
Oh, I wasn't near that day.
I always played it for me.
You should have texted me.
I'll let y'all know.
I was like, yo, this ain't, I was surprised.
And y'all know how I am when it come to GZ music.
I was super surprised.
I'm like, what are you doing?
Should I give a little?
Yeah, yeah, give a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, give a little bit.
Any particular track I should start with?
Wait, hold on, boss, when it comes to the niggas you like,
look, yeah, walk easy.
Because
Maybe the other thing
You trash
You flip it
Right now
Right now I'm walking alone
Right now
I'm gonna
I'm gonna say
I prepared y'all
nigga we
What do you think
About the album
Nigger
I was gonna get into it
I was gonna get to that
I have thoughts
And I don't hold my
I don't hold my punches
When it comes to Jesus
Okay
Well let Park
Should I start right
With the intro?
Yeah
The intro is an
Intro's always important
To play
Put about 1010s on
Yeah
Pull the rolls out
Shout to drama.
Shout to drama of Philly's finest.
Shout to Cannon.
Cannes.
The guys.
Lake, what up?
I want to see it in this place.
Yeah, that boy in Minnesota.
Soldier rag, yeah, that's when I'm in to know you.
I'm selling that white girl, Tony Montoa.
I just put a fool in a baby in a stroke.
All you're a box with a arm in the show.
Got 20 on me up.
Yeah, I'm trying to make a corner.
Kiss me a car.
As soon as that comes on, the tempo is just like,
this does not feel like the right tempo for G-C.
Yes.
Well, let me tell you, as soon as I press play,
I said, what the fuck is this?
And went to track two.
Okay.
By the time I got the treason,
which I think is track three,
which I love,
but I'm like, oh,
I don't know what he's doing.
In terms of the...
What is this?
The content or the music?
The music.
Okay.
I'm not used to this.
Yeah.
So when I hear Gizi,
I'm thinking club banger.
trap music, you know, shit like that.
I told y'all, to me it felt like
50 cents mixtape, sincerely yours, Southside.
Okay.
Where he wrapped over all of like cookout beats.
Yeah.
But not as good.
This seems like a direct conflict with the snow brand.
And I hated the name.
Like, this is not snow music.
This is summer music.
And at the timing of dropping in October or whatever late September.
He dropped it on his birthday, so I'll give you that.
Okay.
You drop you doing a project.
A lot of, I know a couple artists drop when they birthdays,
whatever.
But even,
snow and shit along with drama's presence.
This gives you a,
if this drops,
you have an expectation that you think of your game.
If this drops Memorial Day weekend,
it makes all the sense in the world to me.
Literally what I said.
Right.
Or even July 4th weekend.
Like,
this is a summertime album.
It's dropping too late.
I hated this on.
Snow in the summer or something.
You know what I mean?
Like, you could make a little pun somewhere.
Exactly.
I hated this on my first list.
Listen, me and you talked.
I didn't have a second listen.
And I'm sitting here like, Parks, listen to this bullshit.
Listen.
It took it.
I don't want to hear this one of these songs for me to get to one.
I was mad.
Yeah, that Tony, what's it, Tony Bragg?
It was one of the Jones.
That's the worst.
I was like, I can't even, it was unlistenable.
Play that one.
What's it called?
Another sad song.
There you go.
Okay.
I text DJ drama.
I hate this song.
What the hell happened?
I was mad already.
I always.
I thought somebody should rap over this, though.
Well, not this.
I always thought it.
If Ross came on right now,
Ross going to do it differently.
Very pockish.
Let me hear, let me hear him.
Yes.
You're going to put me in the game, y'all.
You're holding you back.
I'm hoping you know.
It sounds very much like a Tupac-inspired record.
Which he is.
Tupac is GZ's favorite rapper.
Okay.
And the inspiration is in there.
I get it.
I hate it this song.
Hate it, hate it, hate it, hate it.
Still hate.
All right, let us talk and clown you.
Enough of you now.
We're trying to clown you.
You don't want me to see.
No, he's mad that I'm not.
I hate this shit.
We want to clown you and you won't let us because you're making sense.
Yeah.
Okay.
We don't want to hear none of that.
No, because y'all thought I was going to come in here.
I want you to round for this album so we could tell you that shit.
No, I don't do that.
That was my game playing.
You're right in common.
When music is bad, I'm going to say it's bad.
When music is good, I'm going to say it's good.
My favorite artists in the world can put out some bad shit.
All right, but we want to say that to you.
It ain't the same you saying.
It's like you're trying to get ahead of the,
hey, don't get this to the cookout.
Your favorite artist dropped some bullshit.
It's different when we say it to you.
And listen, the funny shit.
But I still have more, but I'm going to let you all get your shit off.
All right, we're not doing 90 minutes on.
All right, well, let me finish then real quick.
Go ahead, go ahead.
Then he posted that Dee Nice and him was doing it on Instagram live.
I like that in the summer.
cool because we know what de nice does when he gets busy shot the d nice
so let me watch the stream
what d nice did playing the originals like you know he gets into his
cookout groove bag mixing it in with the jizi records i got a different
appreciation for the album then i shut up now
ice i do you gotta shut up now we we we we
now y'all can cook now y'all can cook
if he if his mic is live muted he's finished
All right, do you this?
You know,
Nick said,
they missed the old shit with the new shit.
This is the re-knit.
So if you mix it with some shit,
right then it's in the cloud.
Yo, and then DeNice had an Instalive,
and I seen it,
it gave me a new appreciation
for records that been out since the 50s.
Yo, all of those
classy joints that came out in the 50s
all shit.
Now that DeNice did her instillive.
This is sort of what it's like
when I bring up bad bunny.
What the fuck is he talking about?
Oh my God
I never heard this
He keeps trying to not let us go
Four-n-a-blon's off.
Show a ass up, nigga.
And Jeezie and Lake is my man's too.
Shout to Jeezie.
My problem with the project,
let me be serious now,
but I don't know why I used to get too mad.
My problem with this project is
the records that he's doing this over,
like if you have a love of bands
and what they did in that time.
They stiffen them up.
these you just didn't need to do this on
like we listened to those records
to hear the instruments
the groove yeah the groove and the bop
yeah much different from what 50 did
that freeze bought up 50 picked records
that Bill With is a lovely day
shits that you can hear a rap
cadence song I remember that
I don't want to hear no rapping
over nights over Egypt
I don't
yeah I don't want to hear rapping over the intro joint
And I love Jeezy, but I don't want to hear
Not the right time, not the right vibe
The tempo
It's the wrong tempo
Yeah, slow that shit down
Oh, he got towards the end
He got the slower one
It's hard to make it to the end
What's on this number?
What number is the hot record?
What number is hot?
Look at freeze, yo
A number, tell us a number.
No, niggas love their favorite rappers
Just tell us a number.
I go, you niggas do love their favorite
rappers.
Please just give us a number.
There's a couple of favorites
And it's a couple up there.
I'm not saying the entire shit is terrible.
Treason is good.
Hustlers Paradise is good.
Let's get a little bit of treason, man.
If you don't know me, it's good.
The project ain't great enough to even get 55 minutes of this shit.
It's a couple of shit.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I like this.
I do like this.
Hey.
Hey.
I ain't making my time.
You can lose a no sleep.
Some of these nigga for a season.
Tell them.
That's fine.
I think that proves the point about what happens when you slow it down.
He had the tempo.
Yeah.
He picks some of them.
He still a lot.
It's still 100.
I mean, just with him.
100-ish.
Yeah, I'm done.
Gizi, don't trick us again with the drama and the snowing outside.
That was a bad part.
This is not snowy music.
And the reason why I can't.
Or cocaine.
Well, I guess it could be cooking.
Tap him.
Tap him.
Hey, yo, both of you all, look at me.
The reason why I can't get too mad at them, no, is because Gizi's over 40.
and I want to put out grown music.
I'm not still in the club.
What is your favorite?
I still said the project ain't good.
But you'd be too hard on the field.
I tell the field the project ain't good.
I'm not as invested to the field.
I'm invested to my favorite.
But the way you're doing this,
you're my man, so I ain't going to highlight.
No, come on.
I had a conversation.
We hear to talk.
No, we need to talk about this.
No, fuck that.
To have to talk about, you said me,
the way I'm harder on the field.
You give the field a harder time.
you're doing now.
And I don't even think that's, I don't even think
that's the real conversation.
And you don't give runway for mistakes.
The real conversation is how much love
is it okay to have for your favorite rappers?
Okay.
I want to take it off freeze.
Freeze is just an example of it and it's funny
because he's sitting in front of us.
But at some point, it gets hard
when your favorite rapper drops some,
it's actually, I feel like it's harder when your favorite
rapper drops me, like real mid, not
the internet made.
Like the internet says mid to everything.
Yeah.
That's not good.
there's actual mids in the world.
That's true.
It's harder doing a mid-review for your favorite rapper
than a trash review,
in my opinion.
Whether mid or Dylon Hotfire,
in your 40s,
I don't know if it's okay to love your favorite rappers
or show it at least.
You can't show it.
What age do you have to slow down?
Ain't no age.
It is.
Look at him.
I'm saying with anything with my favorite,
I'm still an AI fan.
And I'm, I'm, with my favorites,
they're going to be my favorites for a little.
I know, but how you showcase it, right?
Like, fucking the Billy Joel concert today,
the last one in Madison Square Garden.
All of Billy Joel fans came out,
they, they're the same age.
They grew up with the story.
But in the audience, you see them, they're like, yeah.
It was dead for that.
They're just mouthing the words.
It just looks different.
We can't be so.
The big old, too.
But you still, has even missing what I'm saying.
You old, nigga.
Exactly.
So, yes, I'm not, but that's why I like the fact that he's not, I don't be in the clubs,
so I don't want to hear the club music from him.
That's all I'm saying.
Oh, that's fair.
That's what I'm giving him at least a pass for trying to make age appropriate music.
Okay, I can dig that.
That's all?
I can dig that.
If it ain't good, it's still ain't good.
This is no, there's no songs off of this that I'm putting on my GZ playlist.
Got it.
Not one.
I do like him making age appropriate music.
Yeah.
There's something to that.
I do like that.
I do like that.
I do like that.
Yeah, even if it don't work, the fact that you tried that, you went.
I'm not in the streets no more, so I'm not making trap music like that.
But, hey, reminisce, though.
Yeah, you can reminisce.
Reminis about when you sold a brick and some shit.
Well, he still sprinkled some of the lines in there,
but I want to do something different that my age group could understand him
and respect these beats, these records, these samples,
which is why I said the D nice shit was really dope.
Not saying I got an appreciation for the old songs.
I knew the old songs, but it made me like these songs a little bit better
hearing them right after the original record.
My mom's is...
In closing, please.
close. My mom's is a D. Nice fan. My mom's is a D. Nice fan. So she watched the live.
I don't even, that's all another conversation about my mother being on social media that I don't know about.
But she hit me and was like, don't you like Jeezy? I said, yeah. She's like, yo, some of those new
songs that he was playing are kind of okay. I was like, all right, mom. If it's mom approved.
I was like, all right, mom. I didn't expect that. Make a noise freeze. We got to freeze.
We got to shout to my ice. You did a big dog.
Alright, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm clap back.
Mickey through the Super K-ball, nigga.
Yeah, what's the time?
We're at a time.
We're 47.
Yeah, freeze.
Yo, don't do that.
Justice Lee.
You know we had another topic first, right?
We got another topic right now, too.
All right, let's see what else, what else, what else?
I love this guy.
Um, all things young thug.
Let's keep it in Atlanta.
Let's do it, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's keep it in Atlanta.
Young thug had something to say about therapy.
Again, I wish issue was here.
Why?
It's just therapy views.
Oh, okay.
I would have loved to hear from him on this Young Thug topic.
And we'll get to that in a second, but I want to do a proper review of the Young Thug Project.
Oh, please.
Because I was home.
I turned the shit on on my Sonos, took it off the phone, I let it play.
Mm-hmm.
It's a really good album.
Yes, it is.
Well, I wouldn't know about really good.
Really good album.
It's a good album.
It's a good album.
It's a good album.
It's better than our review suggested last week.
It's better than all the initial, everyone online was trashing it and thrashing it.
He called you, niggins?
No, it's just not that bad.
Nah, you know what it is?
It's not bad.
It's not bad.
Well, part of it is the album was, again, it's like.
The sequence is terrible, but it's not, there's two issues.
One is the sequencing, and two, just the top of the album isn't that strong.
And so we- That is easy.
not to cut you off mark one of the worst starts to an album i've ever heard i don't know what
he was doing i don't it it ruined my first listening experience yeah and that experience for me
is normally a bop listen i'm listening for bops right and i didn't hear too many of those one
and two old thug used to be able to come on when i was feeling happy like when i was in a great
joyous mood
some of the content on here
most of the content on here is really down
it's heavy yeah it's really down
but once you get past
how horribly sequenced this project
is I had to tip my hat to the young man
it was hard to get
no nobody from Atlanta called me
I ain't speak to me's
this is just listening to music
listen ninja not for me
I'm gonna just go through it
but for you combined with the album cover
combined with what he did
with making all of his
the features on the album,
all of his friends look like that.
It makes it hard.
If this is what you're starting,
it sets a,
oh, no, I don't even know
what you're on this album.
I'm off of it.
You can get somebody off of it.
Just about all of that.
True.
Yuck.
Yuck,
Ken Carson, track two,
not for me.
Same, yeah.
Yeah.
On the news,
as much as I love that Cardi B verse,
I don't think the song
is so much to write home about.
I like that record.
I like that record.
I like that record.
I like that one.
I like that one.
Well, hearing that third,
off of one and two
being some bullshit. It didn't make me
it didn't make me
fucking told you
more of the same for me
whoopty do I understood
what he was doing
I won't listen to it anymore
and at that point the album changes for me
blaming Jesus is sick
last last part I wanted to come in here and say
whatever record that is after whoopty do
is fine actually I'm playing that
yeah you can play that
blaming Jesus I think is sick
Sad spider I think is sick
And in this point now
Alright
I see what's going on
You want some blame of Jesus
Give me some lamey Jesus
See me some lame in Jesus
See this
Melodic dog
Is always better for me
Yeah
Yeah
That you hear, and they're crying.
Mm.
It's fire.
That's fire right there.
Yeah.
I've been pushing this shit for years.
It's the vibe I'm looking for from Doug.
Baby, I'm sorry, okay.
Jay said you have me okay.
Hey.
He's saying I be okay.
You're tired of me okay.
Go to the next song.
Go to next song.
Go to the next song.
Go to the next song.
Go to the next song.
Because when he hit the sequence,
sequencing right, it hit.
These two songs, they should be together.
Okay.
I love this song.
This is Fire.
Sad Spider.
Anyway, turn it off.
I ain't trying to play all of these records.
Sad Spider's dope.
The TI record is dope.
I love that record.
Into the features.
I'm not all the way mad at the TI record.
I like the Mariah the Scientist's record.
I do too.
I'm so dope.
I don't remember that one.
What's I'm so dope?
Play I'm so dope.
I can't hear the shit.
Let's go.
Turn me up a little bit, Brody.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
When Doug is in his melodic bag, it's going to work, nine times out of ten.
Yeah, yeah.
I am.
Spider.
See, but for me, he goes on a run right here.
I'm so dope into part in my back.
I'm never listening to this sexy red record that's track 13.
Yeah, that's all.
into the Lucci record
Into the 21 record
That Lucci record is amazing
Yeah, what up Jesus, right?
That record
The second half of this album
With the exception for me of revenge
And like I said
That Mariah the scientist joint
I think this was
No matter how you felt about the music
This was the right album
For him to drop coming out of jail
I changed my entire stance
After listening to it
Listening to him
Listening to what was heavy on his heart
listening to just
it needed to be like this
my first listen I thought
all right
his tone he depressed
I ain't got time for it
after sitting with it I'm like
oh you had to do this
this was a get it out
this was a clonic
yeah to get it out
yeah this was for the soul
and again
even bigger than that
the features
like these brothers being here for him
like past the music
just these brothers being here for him
while he's going through all
this shit easily sounds like the last few years
been the roughest few years as life
like it was very
autobiographic for me
very autobiographic
really good project
I didn't go back to reanalyze it a ton
I skim through it one more time
I still don't think it's great but there is some shit on here
I said that in the last spot don't there's some shit on here
yeah it's uh
it's more shit than I thought on here
I'll say that
overall it's a good project yo
it ain't it ain't be best but it ain't
Terrible.
They ain't terrible.
I could see how you would be sick to your stomach over the gunner thug combination
never coming back again.
Like if you listen to what Gunner's doing on his projects and with this element that Thug
is doing like, I can see how it's a sad day for a lot of Atlanta niggas.
I do.
The fans lost.
On one side.
On one side, it's a sad day because on the other side for Atlanta niggas, again, him
and Lucci doing records together.
They got a record together on Lucci's album, which is really, really,
Lucci's album is really good
And I was about to talk about that
Already Legend, right?
Yeah, that's his album.
You know, they were in the club together.
So on one side,
the Atlanta niggas at least seeing some level
of unity coming back
because them two had the city on fire, apparently.
So that is a good thing.
That's dope.
Got to salute that.
And you get to realize that a lot of people.
It's dope, but I don't like that.
You don't like it.
I mean, I do, but I don't.
Let me hear.
Give me a second
I think that Thug wants to talk to Gunner
I think that everything about his identity
His network and his friend group
Will change if he does
I feel like he's trapped into his own ideologies
That he's having to change your heart on
But don't know how to say it
His whole life will change
So now you kind of stuck there
You stuck
You made this position
You drew the line
And then you kind of got to stand there
That don't feel good
And what it also looks like to me
Because Thug did an interview on a pivot
and he was talking about how
I still love Gunner
Gunner still loves me
but I think at this point
we just got to go our separate ways
and when I saw that I had made a joke
like yo Gunner has been
with his separate way but
forgiving Lucci and not Gunna
on civilian terms is crazy
that's absolutely nuts
if you can do one you can do the other
especially what you all have been through
that's where I disconnect a little bit from
but we're my street niggas so it could be something
I'm not talking streets.
I'm talking hip-hop now.
I'm talking human shit now.
I mind my business on the street shit.
Yeah, but the street shit
carries more to the street niggas,
oh no, a lot of that shit is stupid.
But we can say that.
And I'm saying it.
And I'm saying it.
Forgiveness.
My God is a forgiving God.
If you've shown the ability to forgive
on one front, that means you
possess the ability to forgive.
True, but we're speaking.
I know we're speaking as...
He ain't ever going to do it, so we ain't got to know about it.
Because there's certain shit that you can't forgive.
and that's their core values
and they stand in that
and he's well within his right.
Have a blast.
But have a blast.
This is where you are.
You want to go ahead, flip my back.
No, no, no, it's okay.
No, what I'm saying is that
I disagree with you
but I understand what you're saying.
You said it already though.
I feel like the message is the messengers
and the message is bigger,
a bigger statement for Atlanta.
Those two coming together.
A lot of people lost their lives.
It's a lot of situations that happen behind those too.
So showing that type of bond,
you know,
it paves the way for a lot of people to rectify things.
And I want to say, right?
Like, I understand what y'all are saying.
I know plenty of street niggas
that have a real healthy respect
for people that have tried to kill them.
Yes, me too.
You're right.
Like, I know that exists.
So I'm not trying to slight that.
I just think we should mirror the ability
and they don't think that.
Yeah, they don't.
They don't think that.
And I understand.
That's why I'd be in my house.
That's why I be home.
I go to work.
I go to the supermarket.
Because I had to all this.
I do all types of legal shit.
I open up Uber.
He used to pick some suits.
Like, whatever's legal.
I look for legal.
Legal fun.
Legal fun is fun.
Legal is the shit.
I was just saying.
It's still in there.
No.
Come on.
My bad.
See your face on the news.
Clear your throat, nigga.
Do you know how it fit to see your face on the...
Ice clears, bro.
That should be right there.
All right.
Go ahead.
You all made me forget what I was about to say, man.
Did John have any thoughts on the performance on the courtroom steps?
from Doug
symbolic
yeah
I did at first
because
I mean set up was bad
audio was bad
all that was bad
but on the flip side
look what
was bad about the setup
yeah yeah
he said it sounded bad
it wasn't produced well
yeah that's thank you
he wasn't he wasn't rapping the words
I mean nobody's rapping the words
there's nobody rapping the words
yo plug me up and play my song
no he was rapping
with the with the word
But somebody did point out, somebody did point out to me, though, that when he got released, part of the conditions was he had to do certain things for.
I was about to tell you that.
And I'm like, salute.
I was about to tell you that.
Now salute.
That's why he's there.
Yeah, now salute.
I get it.
Once I saw it, when you hit the group chat and said, yo, Young Doug is performing in front of the courthouse.
It made it sound like it was some rogue takeover of the court out, like a purge.
That's how they put it out.
Once I saw it, and I saw that the courthouse people were.
were working this event.
I'm like, okay, agreement, part of the conditions.
Bring your ass back here and put it on the show.
The way it was put out, he put a tweet and was like,
yo, Atlanta, meet me here four o'clock and just put the address.
I used to be getting God, man.
No, I'm not getting God.
I'm just saying this is what happened.
So, and then he puts the flyer up saying, okay, and it's the courthouse.
But then once I saw, they had it barricaded and security and all of this.
I said, okay, this is a thing here.
Was it a good turnout, freeze?
Yeah, it was a decent turnout.
For some spur of the moment shit
That people didn't know
Well, his people knew
But the average fan didn't know about
That's fire, man
When I see certain stories
Like it brings me back to
My childhood in hip hop
Right
It's fire to just imagine
If that's your favorite rapper
Or
Like and you grew up listening to him
Shit in Jersey City
And 96 or whatever year it was
It was a big deal
When Big Pund came up
To Jackson Avenue and did Winnie's
Some of the people outside
would know about that.
Nika, I stalked every event
that one of them niggas was at
with no club clothes.
You're not understanding me.
I looked like the nigga
that shouldn't have been there.
So to be able to go to a courthouse
and get this whole performance from Thug,
I love that.
I love them negotiating that
as part of his fucking freedom,
freedom fighters.
It was a dude on Twitter.
He was at the Falcons game.
And he was like,
yo, I'm walking out the game.
The game was over about four something.
I'm walking out the game.
And I guess the stadium
ain't too far.
from where the courthouse is.
And he's like,
yo, I'm walking to my car
and I see the post
that Thug is doing a concert here.
And that's my favorite rapper.
Like, that's some fly shit
that you just stumble on a free show
from Thug.
From Thug.
From whoever it is,
it's your favorite rapper.
For sure.
That's fly shit.
So I can't hate on that.
Also,
see, I'm with Thug on the music,
but he's doing so many interviews
and just saying shit
and getting clipped up.
This is where I step off.
I step off when they start
You know what I mean?
So I'm gonna play this clip
This is Thug on the Pivot
Shought to give it his opinion
on shout out to the Pivot
and shout out to fucking
Brandon Marshall
I mean another
Anyway
Yeah I'm gonna play this
This is Thug giving his opinion
on therapy on the Pivot
Another show I want to highlight
Where Black men get real therapeutic
Shout to Ryan Clark
My man to think Russell Wilson
Shannon Crowder.
Shout out to those boys, man.
Shout to Brad Taylor.
Shout to Fred Taylor.
Shout to Fred Taylor.
My guy, I've done that show.
Shout out to black men
getting therapeutic and vulnerable
on some of these shows.
My big sister,
my big brother, my dad,
my mom, my OGs.
I listen to y'all.
Like, it's really a slap in the face
to me.
If I, you know what I'm saying?
I just telling my girl that,
like, I don't think you need a therapist.
I don't think I need a therapist.
I feel like, I feel like I feel like I'm not a man
if my girl get a therapist.
it's like damn you actually call somebody
and listen to what they got to say over me
instead of just listening to what I'm telling
I just feel less of a man
you know in that
there's obviously things that happen
through the calls being released
that did affect your relationship
right we don't need that part
what he had to say about
therapy is the part that took off
distinguished panel how do we feel
a lot of us think what do you think
I just want to ask them what happens if you're wrong.
Like, don't listen to a professional, listen to me.
But what happens if I give you the wrong information or the wrong advice?
I think it's embedded in us in the neighborhoods that we grew up in that therapy is frowned upon.
It's not until I came up here.
Because when I was putting a therapy or as a kid to go speak to somebody, it's based off my behavior.
But Sparford wasn't therapy.
I didn't go to Sparford.
Watch your fucking mouth, nigger.
What I'm saying is that, so that, that is frowned upon, right?
For women, too, though?
No, not women, but he's speaking about himself as well.
He didn't mention initially, I don't need a therapist.
Right, that part I got.
You know what it was for me?
Because I grew up.
Like, him saying, I don't need a therapist, that's not shocking.
It's disappointing.
It's a stigma of attention.
It's on brand.
Not for him, just for people.
Yeah, I'm with you.
I also think it's okay to not need, feel like you need therapy.
Maybe he does, but maybe he doesn't.
Feeling like you don't need therapy is different than feeling like
therapy isn't needed like in general and I'm with you like some people a lot of people feel like
they don't need therapy right and and and neither one of what y'all said is what he said I know that's my point
so I'm that's why I was but when he said he would be disappointed if his girl needed even worse than
disappointed I would wouldn't even feel like a man I feel like less of a man that's the part that's why
that's what stuck out that's what stuck out that's what stuck up me that's why I said for women because
it's like I if he just said for himself okay that that that wouldn't even be newsworthy but I part of what I
thought is that a lot of times in our communities we've thought that therapy compromised
our masculinity. So I would have thought he would have been fine with a girl going, even just on
some patriarchal shit. That still falls on the line of him. Right. Like, I'm the man you should
be able to come and talk to me about anything and let's work through it. Right. You don't need
to go to a professional. I'm with you. I'm just saying I, that was a new spin I hadn't heard
before. And then to ICE's point, that suggests to me that people don't know what therapy actually
is or does. Because if you think therapy is just being a listening ear or giving good
advice. And yeah, I can see you, I don't want this other nigga give you therapy. I can
give you therapy, right? Because I'm your man. I can do this for you. But if people
understood what talk therapy is in the layers that it impacts and the fact that it's a skill
that is, that you need training for. Train professionals. Right. Yeah, exactly. You wouldn't,
you wouldn't feel like less of a man anymore than you feel like less of a man. If your girl
went to see a foot doctor or a heart doctor or a fucking mechanic. You wouldn't be like,
I feel like less of a man. I couldn't fix your car. So I don't know what the fuck I'm
doing under the engine, but let me do it and then take it to a professional. Exactly.
Why would you listen to another person and not listen to me?
Because this might have nothing to do with you.
Or you might not be equipped to deal with it.
Or that too.
You just might not be equipped to deal with it.
You can't help me with what I need.
Hold up, Parks.
Even that adds some of what a manly man's opinion might be.
She might be going to therapy to get a better understanding of things going on in her life outside of you, nigga.
Right.
Like, see, and that's the other part.
Men be thinking that they are their partner's whole existence.
There's no life outside of me.
She could be going to there.
And not her, let me take it off them.
But people could be going to therapy to figure out life without you.
Bro, people could be going to therapy to unpack some shit that happened when they were a child.
Before we met you, some childhood trauma, my parents, hey, I'm noticing that how I'm responding to you in this house ain't of a certain nature.
These are not things that you should go and speak to your man about.
at all.
He's off.
Yeah.
Right.
He's off.
A professional.
Somebody who, like you said, they are trained to deal with this.
That's who you want to talk to.
Let me tell you something, dog.
And I'm saying this, I don't know how much experience y'all got.
I haven't been to every therapist there is.
The couples therapists, that last couple's therapy we went to, and I say it all the time.
She was so, she was trained, licensed.
You could tell she had a gazillion years of experience.
My girl found her on Google
because she did one of these TV shows that we liked.
We was watching one of the shits on Netflix.
Okay.
She liked the therapist.
She looked her up.
Her price said, I'm on Netflix,
give the therapy, and I'm good at this.
So we went, she kept that shit so brief.
It was so fast.
It was one hour.
And we left there and got it together.
Got it.
We left there and got it together.
She was a little too honest with us.
But that's what a professional could fucking do.
She's there to say, hey, you got a problem with this.
he's going to keep doing that
if you love him
what are you doing
hey you're hurting her
if you love her
you're wasting my time
but I got it
because of 900 an hour
like we can talk through this
but this is going to keep happening
with him
and this is going to keep happening
with her
now what
see a lot of therapy
is just getting you
out of your own bullshit
whatever
justifications and rationalizations
you made up in your mind
and your brain
there was a part in that therapy
I was like, hey, no, stop.
Don't you tell her that.
I love her.
She's sitting there being too honest.
He feels like this.
That's why he's doing this.
Shut your ass up.
We're going to be together.
So therapy, it gets tough.
It gets tough and it's tough for people to hold that mirror up.
But it's preventative in a lot of ways and helpful in a lot of ways.
I'm not going to team summit us out here.
But his voice is so loud and powerful.
It's sad when that's what comes from it.
And then you hear his album.
and it sounds like nothing but a man
that needs fucking therapy.
That's his therapy.
That's his way that...
It's not.
That's not therapy.
That's not therapy.
Let's have that talk.
Who's talking back to them?
You just hit the nail on the head.
Let's have that talk.
And we got to stop.
Because we say that everybody does that.
That's my therapy.
No, it's not.
That's just an activity you do
oftentimes to get away from the work
that therapy would actually have you do.
Oh, shooting pool is my therapy.
I'll drink it is my therapy.
Church is my therapy.
So-and-so is my therapy.
Nah.
Well, it makes you calmer.
It takes your anxiety down
when you do things that you like
or comfortable.
If when you speak about something without speaking to someone
and you speak about something
and you're able to get your emotions out,
your anxiety becomes down.
You start to feel more comfortable
and back to who you were.
So that's your coping, that's your coping mechanisms.
That's what it is.
It's not therapy.
It's not therapy.
Right.
But the problem is because you-
Which is the antithesis of therapy.
Right.
However you self-medicate,
however you bandage yourself
before you present to the world,
that's not therapy.
That's just how you surviving out here.
Yeah.
You're getting by.
Yeah.
And a lot of times where we come from, we can't afford therapy.
Like my mom was a therapy nut, so I'm a weirdo in this case.
And me and my brother was fucking her in that house, not physically.
But we was driving her.
So she had to find alternative routes to deal with different children.
Yeah.
She was, we were, I was creative in figuring out how to fuck shit up.
So you had to find alternative.
alternative routes everybody don't do that but if you listen to thugs bank interview like bank is doing
the therapy yeah yeah he was and you're saying yo I saw my brother die when I was I held him in
my arms whatever that story was where you was three four five years old that's where it starts right
niggas don't be knowing that because we think it's normal I thought it was normal you're my
my brother put a gun a man when I was 10 what's going on in your house you don't know what that
does, you don't know that that act
at 10 is going to have an effect on you at
18, 19, 20, 30, 40,
your rest of your fucking life.
I'm holding a broadcast office now
because I'm a big therapy head.
But it just bothered me
because, again, like
niggas always say, our rappers
and our athletes shouldn't,
there are rappers and our athletes
and our entertainers for a reason. Like, once
we get done to start talking about how we should be
living, mute the mics.
It's important to be aware of
the power of your impact.
Mute the fucking microphones.
You out there disseminating just wrong shit.
I told Corey last week, I'm at the bar at fucking Capitol Grill.
They asked me, yo, you want some bread?
I say, nah.
I'm cool.
I don't need no bread.
The lady next to me is a pack bar at lunchtime.
Lady next to me, I say, I'm trying to watch my carbs and my diet because I'm getting
fat and they don't send me to bread.
And the lady next to me who's on a laptop doing some work, she says, hey, just want to
let you know it's not the bread that gets you fat bread don't get you fat she said it's american
bread she said i'm home making sour dough bread i've been all over the world and had bread yeah
it's only here that that's doing that to you and and this whole i forgot why i brought that up but
this whole therapy shit with thug you deprive yourself of the wealth of knowledge that humans have
to give you just don't know it all
Right.
And the bad side, like, I met on Thug, because he was tweeting over the last couple of days.
And I think he acknowledges he needs therapy, but he tweeted, a therapist can't heal this shit.
Like, he believed he's so damaged that.
Maybe not heal, but it can help you deal with, help you get to a point where, yeah, yeah.
But that's, like, what do you say to a person that feels like I'm not anti-therapy, but I'm so fucked up that a therapist can't even do nothing with me?
And a lot of times you'd be, a lot of times you'd be shy or to even,
or embarrassed to even express yourself to somebody.
It's not just as black and white as you're making it seem.
See, you said that it was instilled in you from a young child.
It's not as black and white to sit down and talk across somebody to tell them your business to tell them.
No, you were saying that I'm a therapy head.
You said my mom had to find.
I said my mom was a therapy head because she had to find alternative routes to deal with wild kids.
Got it.
And then did that not trickle down to you of why you feel like therapy is okay?
By your mom going to it?
I get what you're saying.
I'm not even saying my mom went to it.
Oh, did you go?
We was whaling.
So she had to just try shit.
Was we so accepting of it early on?
No, if that's what you're asking.
Got it.
But what I'm saying is that.
But she introduced it very early and we got to, we came to grips with it.
I understand.
Therapy, psychiatrists, psychologists, all of the medical shit.
It'd become embarrassing to sit across where you can.
feel embarrassed in masculinity
to tell somebody your business
like that.
Like, it's a slow pace.
See, that's why we got to fix you,
but you'll shoot somebody.
A lot of times it'd be...
I remember speaking to somebody as a kid.
We're embarrassed about that,
but we'll shoot somebody.
I remember speaking to somebody as a kid, right?
And whatever I shared with them
was used against me.
Basically, that can cause trauma.
That can say, I'm not speaking to a therapist
because I didn't go there to speak to somebody
to get reprimanded.
I went there.
It was painted to me that you
Come speak to me, you come speak, and this is off the record.
But when my mother found out or whatever you told my mom, however crazy it is,
then I got reprimanded for it.
So you don't, you have a, it's a trust thing.
Yeah, so then now, I don't want to, so then now that can pass on, of course,
now that I'm trying, it's different, being a peer is different.
But I also understand people not wanting to share their business with somebody else.
Flip, we can understand all of it.
I'm using my voice.
Got it.
And my platform to tell Black,
like you, black brothers like thug, and black brothers like ish, that there's trauma
keeping black people away from therapy. It's like the resentment. It's like pissing on
yourself and the resentment. It's hurting nobody but you. Got it. Therapy is for the people
that have been beat down to the beat down. Like there's still some work you have to do. You
have to ignite. Therapy is for the people that are sick and tired of what.
is going sick and tired of being sick and tired they're just sick they're ready to try something you
have to be willing to submit see that's the thing niggas ain't willing to submit y'all willing to go
through all that you're going through and get up dust yourself forth and go fight for more no you
have to be willing to submit yo y'all won y'all did it my thinking fucked it up my how i my
ideologies how i was raised my family my best friend my girl see that's the thing about him
he ain't even honest with his girl so you're not honest with your girl I'm
forced to believe you're not honest with your parents you're not honest to your fan base who
the fuck are you honest with i think black men got to start having some real uncomfortable
conversations with themselves we started this pod with holding a mirror up and uh and having that
moment of reflection and you niggas need to do that before y'all get on microphones
and to your point joe you said they don't hurt nobody but yourself that's not true
because you be so fucked up that you start hurting your loved ones and don't even realize you
yeah but you are it ain't just hurting you it's hurting the people around you
you because you don't just get help.
Doug and anybody else out there that might need therapy,
I'm praying for y'all.
I love you guys.
There's a community of people that loves you guys.
Walo tried to give them some therapy.
Like, there's people out there.
There's a community out there that's going to try and give it to you.
That's going to try and love you in spite of what you got going on.
I'd like to always remain in that community.
I'm praying for your brothers out there.
I hope one day y'all get it together.
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All right, y'all want to dive into...
I want to dive into why Amani is here.
Damn.
Hi, Mark.
Hello, Amanda.
Oh, y'all got flirting.
Y'all got hyso.
No, that's not a flirt.
It's desperation.
I understand you so much better now, Joe Button.
When I was, first of all,
congratulations to you for winning potter a month
for a second fucking time.
Congratulations.
Back-to-back month.
It's a big deal.
It's a big deal, you guys.
No, it is a big deal.
It's a really big deal. They made the award matter again.
Well, he won again.
Yeah.
Oh, that surprises you?
Of course.
Surprised me.
Wow.
Me too.
I was shocked.
Now I know how you felt when I was winning him.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
We've been killing him.
That's what I'm saying.
Don't diminish my wings, go.
We've been killing him.
How many men's you did?
I mean, because he kind of helped you by saying, you know,
like, yo, he's been buddying it and all that.
He kind of threw the alley out there.
No, I think the key campaigned.
I want you to ever say I campaigned again.
This nigga got campaign slogans, videos, outfits, wardrobe changes.
You use me in the picture, too, you suck-ass, nigger.
You do what you got to do.
You use me in the picture.
Which picture?
About me being on my phone.
Me and Mona.
I ain't like that.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah, yeah.
Thank you for an example.
Yeah, I don't think you need to highlight the crew's shortcomings when you're on your better stuff.
Have you never seen a campaign?
No, we never saw that.
Well, no, because we never campaigned for it.
I never saw it in podcasts.
Yeah.
Oh, and then.
Step your game up.
But we never campaign for them.
We just did it on talent.
We'll step your game up.
That's not how you win elections.
And no what, listen, congratulations.
Thank you.
Proudy, buddy.
Congratulations.
That won, congratulations.
But just so we're clear, why I don't campaign is because that would muddy the waters.
It would.
Okay.
Because niggins got a lot of power, boy.
I feel he campaigned.
I feel sorry for you.
I never campaigned.
So if all of us campaigned, like, anyway.
The whole of night school is all for you.
Congratulations to Amani.
Congratulations to you.
I'm happy for you.
Congrats, though.
Yo, wait, let me talk to you a quick.
This award just hasn't meant the same in at least six months.
I love how y'all diminishing when I started winning.
That's crazy.
Because of your influence, Mark, like they had to change up the voting system.
Because you were so influential.
They had to change up their voice.
There's a lot of people were voting for me.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, nigger.
We know night school and all that shit.
I believe.
You just pedaling conspiracy theories now.
I did a deep dive into you.
No, whoa.
I did.
I know we don't say pause anymore.
But that was crazy.
I did a deep dive.
And they changed it.
When I highlighted that, they changed it.
But there's a lot of flip to script people.
You think you parted good enough to win?
I think I hear me.
I think I'm not saying.
I think I parted it good enough to win.
I'm not trying to be funny.
I think the last episode was great.
So you think one episode should get you.
For me, yes.
Just a solid day.
Salad day's work.
Hey, I got you.
One shift.
Right.
One.
You're supposed to be the leader and you're supposed to lead and teach
and help your, you know, your counterpaws be better, yes?
Yo, check this out.
If you are a part of the audience and you think I'm a leader,
leave.
Nah, this ain't the place.
Don't stay here because you think I do a great job at leading.
I don't.
I don't.
I don't.
Actually, I think that's a large part of a while out of y'all stay here.
Y'all know it's going to be a blunder sooner or later.
Joe can't leave.
Let's just think around.
Anyways, congratulations again.
Shout to you, Imani.
Thank you.
Fuck out of it.
Ab soul.
Ab soul.
Well, I get, we can't start an ab soul conversation
without having Kaysanat conversation.
Correct.
Yes.
Kaisanat is doing one of the things
did he be doing.
Mafia Thon three.
Mafia Thon.
Three.
The last one.
Final one.
This is the final one.
Mm-hmm.
And this was, this is supposed to get him to a million subs.
He got, he reached the already.
He got hit the goal.
I know, I'm just telling the people that that was the goal of the thing to get him to a million subs.
He's hit a million subs.
But what I loved about this one is it looked a lot more hip-hop centered.
They did.
Mm-hmm.
So one of the things they did was have the people come up there and, uh, and do freestyles.
On the radar.
They partnered with, uh, on the radar.
That's not the game enough.
That red backdrop is sick
And they had people come up there to rap
Long before Absoe got up there
I wanted to highlight this segment
Because one of the dudes
Who I just thought was a streamer
Is not a streamer
Bittin de Don
Yeah went crazy
I'm sure I have it saved here somewhere
I'm sure I do
There was a couple good freestyle sessions
A dude from Jersey
Yeah, dude from Jersey
Yeah
Oh the Jersey dude
Yeah something like that
He ate
Ben to Don can't fool me
You're not a streamer
You're a rapper
He went absolutely nuts on there
He's been one of my favorite
Freestyles I've heard in a long time
That guy's a rapper
Y'all stop tricking me
With this streamer bullshit
Sometimes you got to find another way bro
That guy is a MC.
He raps.
No, he went crazy, though.
I feel bad.
I ain't here.
I'm going to find it.
Chris Patrick is the dude from Jersey.
He killed that.
He absolutely smoked it over the man in the garden beat.
I'll give a little bit of that while you look for that.
Took my granny from me.
She forgot a baby boy before we laid it down to rest.
Listen to a voicemail every day for 15 months because that fear of granny leaving is some shit.
I can't accept.
Got a job to keep the dream.
I know.
Because the truth is broke was never linear.
Someone reaching for success
Body breaking hosies how my sleep is my anxiety too deep
I need a win before I leak out with stress
I spoke to God and ask him why me his response is holding down to trust the process and
continue with your rents
I want to quit let me not quitting is the reason why a jersey nigga gets to show the world
I feel so surreal used to watch your streams and income couldn't hold the bills
bad for protein powder mixed with water was my only meal
back my labels used to call a sin never closed the deal back against the wall I
get my all on days I slowly heal
Out of all my rights to clear the voices
I don't want to feel
addiction in my blood
Look it's snug until my stomach healed
Cendiary drugs
Keep me numb to things I want to kill
He went crazy
He went crazy
He smoked out of my ego
So much shit I had to up and kill
He smoked that
I just put myself about them days
That I felt unfulfilled
But here I am
Sitting on a stream
With Gabe and God bitch
I deserve it on
Fuck you know
He was crazy
Yeah
He was Chris Patrick
Chris Patrick, his name
Yeah
I got a look at a look
Anybody from Jersey
I'm shout now
Big Jersey
Shout to Chris Patrick
He absolutely smoked that freestyle
Good luck to you in all your endeavors.
This has been the Don.
A million sons on the way, nigga.
Hey, I don't like to brag.
But fuck it today, I'm gonna get on their ass.
I've been having cab.
I do not smoke redger.
I ain't missing my dad at all.
But fuck it, I'm on that.
Those niggas been trolling.
I know they I want that.
Pull up with your whole ass.
He thinking I'm thirsty.
No shit throwback.
No cow.
See how I'm living.
I stay in the pints.
I flow in my building.
He know I'm feeling.
Been biting my style for years he's stealing.
Because how he got M's, he's 30 and chilling.
We really no different.
My niggas caught bodies.
I'm going to make a killing.
That's hard.
That's hard.
Let's see what you mean now.
He's rapping.
He ain't a streamer.
He's rapping.
Listen on him.
He heat up as he keep going.
Can't answer the phone right now.
A little brush you with me.
He'd be thinking this bitch hide.
Niggas from my hood.
I'm still lit.
Boy, you peep back in high school.
Last nigga that tried me, I flew at this bitch.
Made a blow me like hot food.
I'm having that pain for real.
Without that prank and I told her I'm not dude.
I told her, I'm not dude.
I tell her the truth.
He reminds me of early young money
Like, remember when the big Sean metaphor
Took off?
Yeah, yeah, I made your bitch blow me like hot fool
He reminded me a play.
A little bit of baby, right?
Oh, look, look, oh, look, look,
Change the beat on these niggas.
Hold up, change the beat on these niggas.
Hold up, change the beat on these niggas.
All those times I spend with her, sometimes I wish could rewind it.
I go by Dio Double Lynn, I'm in the bid with the mafia.
She wanna suck it while I stream, I told the baby was stopping you.
We don't want to shit.
Oh, nah, he's flowing.
He ain't no stream ball.
No, I said,
I want a bad, but then I hit now I'm awful.
Can't complain.
I had to take the L and charge it to the game.
All that shit I went through, swear to God, was worth the pain.
Clutching on my fire, going to take some time with adjusting to this fame.
Had to bustle down, but I can't lie.
I love my paddy cram.
I'm cutting this off.
Hey, Benaddon, you ain't fooling me, dog.
Hey, you could be over there doing all of that streamer university.
Young nigger, I'm doing a cartwheel, backflip, I show speed, Michael Rudolph.
What's homeboy, Michael Rubin?
I know.
Michael Rudolph.
Shout out the bad, man.
What up, boy?
You're a rapper dog.
Yeah.
And a damn good one.
He found the way.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I have a whole new outlook.
I don't really respect me.
I know.
No, seriously, that's what I realize about myself.
Like, because of where I come from and where my teachings come from, I don't respect you depending
on where you got your teachings from.
How I view him from streamer to MC, it totally different.
Different now?
Yes.
So what was the problem with the streamer?
There is no problem with it, but move.
Why?
Because just moved.
There's nothing wrong.
Don't try to make it be something bad.
I'm not.
I'm just trying to understand.
I'm just from a different era,
it's from a different generation.
It's just how we look at it.
It's just old shit.
My mom, perfect example.
My mom, who if I tell you her age,
she'll kill us all.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't do that.
Please don't do that.
But she is a lot hipper than most people her age.
So she was telling me, she'd be talking to young people.
You know what I was having to talk with some people.
And they was telling me about some lingo that came from your podcast
and then some other lingo about something called chat, chat, chat.
I don't understand.
And I was like, Mom, the chat lingo is for a younger demo
and people that are, I used my brother, Ethan and Anthony,
the people that have the headphones on and the game receipts
and they're on the game, they're talking to people, they're interactive.
That's where that comes from.
is other shit you're saying
is from people around my age
like there is separatism
and where you learn some of this year
so if you tell me you a streamer
awesome cool good luck
I support you get money
you're getting it
but stay over there
if you tell me you an MC
you look at a different eye
you're communicating something differently
yeah I agree
you're telling somebody else something different
so it's not just missing
no no no no no no no no no
I understand that now I get it
now I get it now I get it
Everything that you say to somebody on this earth,
you're communicating something whether you know it or not.
Shit, that's like us saying
if you tell somebody you a podcaster.
Yeah.
That could come off a certain way.
There's a stigma attached to a podcaster.
I don't say that.
I don't say I'm a podcast.
I never say that.
Never.
What do you say you are?
A broadcaster.
A broadcaster.
Don't put no ceiling on me, nigga.
Some of the talks I'm having behind the scenes
ain't no podcast talk.
It's broadcast.
Oh, big boy shit.
Don't podcast me.
I was there in the beginning.
combat jack all of that rest in peace we're in a different game now don't call me no
podcast right because we move in different places now yeah most of the podcasters feel like
that you don't move in just podcast basis I don't know if you're making a joke
or not no I'm just saying wherever you go in and then big boys I'm just saying plural
we're out yeah that's all I'm saying yeah yeah this niggas what you're talking about
yeah yeah this niggas I like the term entertainer no I like the term entertainer
well you are you more well no
I think all of us, all of us are at this point.
But you're also a potter.
But it depends on who you're talking to.
That could also come off a way, though.
Why?
You tell somebody I'm an entertainer.
I would never say that.
I would never. I say I work in entertainment.
You don't, you don't even that anymore.
Yeah, but he is an active entertainment.
Even though my job is to entertain.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Someone who's unfamiliar and they say, what do you do?
I'm not saying, I'm an entertainer.
I don't tell them what I needed to tell them.
But I think for you, it works because you're an artist.
and you're still performing
and you're still doing live
shit.
I mean.
And that's your gifts.
Oh,
that's a good thing.
I'm an artist.
Okay.
I like that's better for you.
Okay.
Entertainment is blurry.
Right.
And people,
people want to ask more questions.
Yeah,
what are you doing in entertainment?
They can kind of take you short for that.
Like I can say,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel that.
Exactly.
What was I talking about the,
we were talking about Kai?
Yeah.
Oh, so congratulations to Kai.
Yes.
And everyone on team Kai,
the whole AMP team,
y'all hit y'all.
Let me hit the fucking button.
Shout out to y'all.
And every time y'all do one of these Mafia Thorn marathons,
that shit hit.
And everything that comes from it, I love.
I love Drewski and the Capitol Heart.
That was hilarious.
Yo, that bitch was thick.
Yeah, look at me.
Juicy.
She was eye.
Made the screen.
I enlarged the screen.
Sometimes you stream my niggas.
You got me?
I'm about to duck.
She was next.
Then I said her face.
I was like, I'll part.
I'm joking.
I'm joking.
No, she had body.
No, she had body.
You'll fuck.
Just him?
Well, he's the only one single.
Oh, that's true.
Correct.
And he's mad at that.
Yeah.
See?
But just because of that,
I'm going to propose and shut him up.
That's going to be the ending.
A lot of people felt like y'all lost that conversation.
I don't care.
A bunch of idiots.
Oh, that's a bunch of absolute.
That's cool.
Yo, in case you don't know this about me,
seriously we've known each other a long time
a million people
saying the opposite of what I'm saying
it don't deter me
I stay on my toilet
that's what makes me a little
I think that all those people were retarded too
for the people at home
that don't know what we're talking about
Amani was saying if you're not married
everything else is in the same boat
whether that be single actively dating
long term relationship
relationship you don't live with your girl
everything that's not marriage
is under the same boat
while I do understand the premise, I don't agree with it.
I'm not passionate enough to fight about it.
Me neither.
But I'm not mad at nobody that, I'm not mad at nobody.
Yeah, and think whatever y'all want to think.
I don't have shit to do in my life.
I don't care.
Listen, my girl hit me this morning.
What she said?
I think we was trying to roleplay, but it was a trick.
Fell off it.
No, she tricked me.
See, fucking with Amani.
She must have seen the pod.
Actually, she set me up because she texted me talking about,
I can't wait to see this marriage,
very single life conversation.
So I hit her and said, the fans are gassing.
It's not.
It's not.
She said, mm.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, hey.
If you send me an, um, I don't, I'm not, I'm done with the talk now.
I'm not playing with you.
I'm not playing with you.
Anyway, she said, eight o'clock this morning.
Hello, good morning.
It's me your girlfriend.
Mm.
I said, oh, hey, what's your name, sexy?
Right?
Okay.
See, you fucked up.
Yeah, you missed the tone of girlfriend.
You missed it.
Girlfriend as in, we ain't married, nigga.
I missed it.
I saw it.
Yeah, you missed it.
Carry on.
Go ahead, though.
I took it as, see, she's been beefing on Sundays because she beefed yesterday.
Sunday is football.
Move.
So she's saying, hey, we ain't spoke.
It's me, your girlfriend.
I didn't take it like y'all taking it.
So I said, I try to be played.
What's your name texting?
It was a trap.
Yeah, yeah.
You missed it.
the first kid right from the
first thing she said was
whatever you wanted to be daddy
and I was like hey
we're role playing
and then she said
but I prefer
Miss Button
got him
got him
dumb ass
that's when you get
that trap
are you talking about
that's right
Shade
yeah
that's right
wait
but this is how
off I am
no he didn't
I said
no he didn't
oh
we road playing
Nicko
That's it
Hey Miss Button
Oh my God
I'm so what you're bad
Fuck out Cory
I'm slow
I didn't know
I didn't know
I didn't know
I was like oh shit
I'm trying to hype that nigga
Holy
No way yo
Hey Miss Button
Hey girl
But she said that
Yeah yeah
I can't read
How many how many lines
Were you with some
All caps in there
She started using effects.
The fact it got to be role playing, it's crazy.
There's a guy.
Got him.
The nigga laughing.
Look, I'll plug the phone.
See?
Oh shit, wait, now.
Time out.
We back to the Bronx.
Back to the Bronx while I'm on this freestyle shit.
And we were supposed to be talking about ass-so.
But hold up.
To the niggas that actually freestyled,
them high bridge boys went up there too.
And I really love that don't cute freestyle,
which I thought I had.
Cute up, but apparently it's not.
Don Q.
Oh, here we go.
Hey.
Hey.
Let's go.
Yo, let me tell you something.
Yeah.
Hello.
Listen to me.
Listen to me.
Listen to me.
Any nigger that comes from where we come from that raps, if they rap, when they hear Fantasia, when I see you, a few things are going to happen.
One, they're going to get really excited to deliver some bars over this.
And two, they've killed people.
It's one of the other
They've killed
No, no, it's true
It's true
It's both
Your brain
To rap about like
Drugs and street shit
And murder
Over to Fantasia
When I see you
They did it
And got away
And got away
I'm not putting on
Donkew on nigger
Shout to Doc Q
Don't know
You went crazy
On this
I'm my guy
Boy boy boy
But I'm gonna play a little bit
See what I mean
See what it is
See look
Even how you sound
and then we'll get the absoe who didn't have the most
who's the most pleasurable outing
bury my right hand I ain't been the same since
had to lock in like King James St. Six
on some renegade shit
I don't entertain this records from niggas
I don't never share stage with
I was trying to find out what I mix my lemonade with
Adderall's bag and raw
about to hit the day shift trapping name day
See I like that
Let me pause it
I like that juxtaposition
Let me pause this
I love the juxtaposition
of street rhymes
over some
happy sound of shit
And when we say street rhymes
Not to bring it full circle
If you listen to the rest of this verse
He needs therapy
We talk about
niggas that need therapy
And acknowledge it over a good
sounding beat
And it works
Uh huh
It's on some afraid shit
Down to my last pounds
It's two plates
Makes cash in the suitcase
Took a two-day trip
Came back with some packs
Made a few plays flip
Got a hustle
I ain't with none of that new age shit
Just getting high in the crib
Playing 2K shit
Niggas broke because they slouching
I gave hope when they were down
With Jesus to the hood
Turned a gram of coke into a mountain
I seen death
I ain't ashamed to go to counseling
Brodin'n and kill for free
Fuck you think he'll do for 40,000
You know
He's going crazy
I didn't seem death
But I ain't afraid to go to counseling
Broden kill for free
Fuck you think he'll do for 40,000
nigger
stop playing with
Donathan Q.
I don't know.
Don't know.
Don's the name.
That's it now.
Because not enough people know.
Like,
if you're in New York,
if you're in the Bronx,
I feel like Don Q for me
gives like Freddie Gibbs,
I'm not Freddy Gibbs.
Fred de Gonson.
Thank you all that.
Fred de Gonson, rest of peace.
He got some of that to me.
Yeah.
Like, that was crazy.
Anyway, back to Apsul.
Apsul went up there and shit to bed.
He did.
Pretty much.
He did.
Afto went up there,
absolute shit to bed.
Even if you love Apsol, there's no way to pretty this up.
I think we all love Apsol.
But I am going to do my best.
I hated this.
Let's hear it.
Let's hear it.
Let's hear it, man.
Solo.
I'm so sad this happened over this beat, too.
I'm sad this happened on my crazy.
Platform on this stage.
And this platform.
You're absolutely right about that.
No, Jitzy, what's happening, man?
Thank you, Fresh Lord.
Pause this.
I'm sorry.
I'm a rapper, I'm sorry.
Can't.
How he's sound coming in, right?
Let you know.
He wasn't ready.
He wasn't.
Something bad is about that.
He don't sound as confident as he's supposed to.
His shoutouts, we assume he's shouting out somebody,
he loved his voice, his tonality, his projection is not where it need to be.
For Absol, Underground, legendary MC to be on mainstream-ass-haired.
in that stream, which this was an odd appearance to me
if you're not going to kill it.
If you're not going to kill it, you shouldn't have been there.
It seemed like he went in there really trying to freestyle.
Like I didn't have, he's like a lot of you, we know,
freestyles are pre-relevant.
Let's hear a little bit.
Come on, let's do it.
I'm just the best who I told you that.
Yeah.
That's too soon for you to even fuck up.
Yeah, yeah.
It's too fast for you to fuck up.
Yeah.
It's like I'm coming.
You said half a bar.
and you started fucking up.
Yo, if you're unfamiliar with Absoe,
this is not the M-C, he is.
I've no Ab-Sold for over 10 years now,
wrapped with him.
He's a problem.
He's good.
Very good.
Him on this beat,
on this platform,
I see the play.
This should have been the moment.
This should have been the moment.
This was going to go.
This was supposed to be a moment.
When I saw it and I heard the beat
and I saw him,
I was like, all right,
this is going to be the one that stands out
the most in all these freestyle.
But if I have to just,
if I have to just speculate, though,
if I have to speculate,
this opportunity was so big for him
that he wrote something.
For sure.
It's the only way that this happened.
He has,
so has all his verses memorized.
He ain't go up there
with a memorized verse
and forget it.
He wrote something
trying to get something off
like the emcees be doing
and didn't remember it.
That's what the fucks
like that.
And if you stumble that early,
that shit fucks up.
You don't know it.
You don't know it.
The conference after that year.
Yeah.
Because when you get up there,
there's no way
for the casual listener,
there's no way to practice.
this. You can't practice it. When you write it and say it in your room, you have it. You can't
you can't reenact real-time platform. Everybody's in the room and it's not muscle memory
anymore. And for someone like him that uses a lot of different pockets and tones and
shit like that. That should be hard to fucking, sometimes you need the styles P, Jada kiss,
kind of simpler rhyme scheme in these situations.
That's the other reason that makes me think
that he wrote something specifically for this
because this ain't even the beat
that the rapper picks to go in.
You have to have wrote to this beat.
Yeah.
You can't just rap to this beat.
I have a million verses.
If you put this beat on right now,
I'm going to sound like this.
Right.
You have to write to this.
I think he wrote to this.
It wasn't memorized.
Horrible outing.
He did own it later, but let's hear some more of this.
I sound like ice on GZ.
I wanted to hear that oxygen bar.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was over.
It was over from the second bar.
No, no, keep it blank.
Keep it blank.
Keep it blank.
Keep it playing.
I want to commend Kai and them with how patient they were.
They were patient.
They wanted him to get some bars off.
Which is funny because guys in that don't know of fuck shit about rap.
See, in my opinion, they should have.
stepped in and just started talking a little.
Like, yeah, you know, we got to bring that back.
You know, they could have eased this over a little bit.
At that point, he should have just wrapped the joint.
He already had memorized at that point.
I would have been like, once he fucked up in bar two,
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, we're bringing that back.
We're bringing that back.
That's when you say, change the beat.
Or that.
But see, the other, the other tip point.
I'm not letting y'all do this whole up.
We aren't costing that.
That's when the showmanship comes out.
Master of Ceremony.
I'm not mad at Kai and his homeboy.
You niggas ain't real rap fans.
But, yo.
No, I'm not going to do that.
It's a part.
It's a part we listen to.
Kassanat didn't know why late three months ago.
So I'm not about to sit here and say he's the guy that will know.
And he caught on seven minutes too late.
Four minutes later.
I would expect Gabe to step in here because he does this.
But the other thing is they don't be, a lot of them freestyles, like when they go on flex, on the radar, all of those.
It'd be performances for us.
Right.
And not just that.
They punch.
They go back.
Like, this is live, real time.
He don't do this often.
No, we can't.
I'm not.
I'm not.
No, Absoe went up to that, that Power 106 shit and went absolutely nuts.
He goes nuts to these shit.
No, but those be, I'm telling you, I've spoken to the producers of a lot of them
freestyles.
They don't be one take when they do those.
It shouldn't have to be.
I'm not, so I'm just saying that.
But this is live.
You're saying what I'm saying.
So the stumbles that might happen, we don't know that he don't do this.
Power 106 or whatever.
But they can.
it because they go back in punts and you shouldn't win.
No.
Then you shouldn't win.
I'm not giving that.
Then you shouldn't win.
Ab has also been someone who was willing and prepared to go on stage and do actual
bad rap events and go against those people who are way more trained than that level.
So he has that about him.
It's not like that's not a part of his pedigree as a rapper.
And he just had a bad out.
Yeah, he just had a bad outing.
That's like, I would have liked to see them.
Hey, bring it back.
Let's diffuse this.
But that goes back into Joe saying Kai is not of that nature.
He's just giving you the platform at this point.
I give you enough.
It's Abso's job to be the experienced professional in the room at that point.
I'm not putting that on Kaysanat and his man.
Absoe is supposed to either say,
stop the beat and get something a little more friendly to what you're trying to do.
Yeah.
Or he's supposed to just freestyle off the top of his head,
which he can and get the props from naming the things that are in the room.
Or just pull out a rhyme that you got in the cut.
You know what I'm saying?
But it might not work on that beat.
Switch the beat.
Cossinat, we on marathon.
You whack-ass MCs, y'all ain't half a dawn.
And I'm here with gay, we in the red room, you dead song.
Like, you got to go to the points of, oh, shit.
You got to, that's what rappers do to let the non-wrapper people know that.
He told them back.
You try to show niggas, you still rap.
Yeah, you want to go on the rear one.
They still streaming.
They ain't done yet.
They got a little bit more time.
You want to go up in there.
You was watching that shit.
I want to get this there.
Look at you.
Look at you.
What beat you had?
What beat?
You wrote some shit, right?
You had a beat.
What's the beat, though?
I didn't have a beat.
beat. I don't have a beat.
Would you wrap up? Everybody
mute up. Everybody mute up.
Now, he's not going to do that.
He'll just be silent. He's not going to do that.
It'll just be silent.
But now I'm curious, though.
If you were, I just wonder what beat
would you choose of a current beat today
that you like, like, yo.
That's why I'm understanding him.
If Kai called me or this opportunity
existed, I would write because
it's big. I would probably
pick bodies because it's recent,
fresh news sound like a killer supposed to jump
on this. And I would be excited to do that.
He just lost his, he just, it was the bad day that every rapper has.
Yeah, it's just a wrong time to have that with that platform.
Every rapper has had that.
Again, not there.
From bar, too, I'm just talking about the, well, they don't be having rappers there.
That's my point.
From bar two, when it goes off the rails, you're supposed to.
Yo, we've seen enough fire shit.
We've seen enough fire shit from Abbaugh that he's going to make up for it.
They're going on tour soon.
He going to go on tour.
He going to showcase that.
I add a little blender, whatever cool.
I'm good now.
But I don't think this will address this in another verse
I don't think this affects his fan base
At all
This affected his ability to add new fans
Yes for sure
He was talking to a different audience
For sure
His fan base know what time of his way abs so
Like I'm not mad at ab having a bad day
I just hate that it happened there
With them eyes on that
Like that's when you were supposed to shine
It happens but I think
There'll be an opportunity to make up for it
Yeah
It was so bad
Listen three four minutes in Kai and I'm figured out
That they should be trying to amp him along
Like your spotter in the gym
like they was like oh oh shit and it wasn't no oh shit get them and it wasn't no oh man 2 30 in the bitch press
they like oh it just wasn't it just wasn't it just wasn't it just wasn't that man
shout shout out the solo chage solo shout out the solo you can't no you can't because it hurts us
yeah I ain't even laugh not at all no there's none it's not it wasn't funny it wasn't like
the uh the the sway uh what's the oh
belly joint?
Like that, that was
funny. That was a funny moment. That was just like,
I, we know that this person rapping can do
what he need to do. The funny part
about that, and it's not funny.
Whatever. How you felt about that? The funny part, y'all, I'm talking.
You know, I asked Mark that when I'm talking. You're crazy.
Mark ain't that important.
Oh, that's right. Mark ain't that
important here. It changed. Yeah,
it's not, not while I'm talking.
I toss it to him when I'm done
when I'm done. Got you Friday.
Talk. Yeah, you talk. All right.
It's going down
Yeah, it happens, man
I forgot
Mark, what are you saying now?
I wouldn't say nothing
I don't know nothing
You don't hear it right?
Nope
Okay, got it
You're not going to speak bad on Philly
Shout out to Philly
Shout out to the whole squad
Yep, nope
All right
It's good loyalty
That's got to be
Somebody got to be
Oh shit
I can't wait for Friday
What's Friday?
Oh when the
The other cast member comes
from Philly.
Oh, I think.
Show the moment.
Shout to a girl, Big Mowner.
Shout to the Big Mowner.
Yeah, man.
It happens, man.
This don't hurt nothing.
We love you, man.
Shake it off.
Got it.
That's the funny part about this.
Your man just had arguably one of the best years
any rapper has ever had.
He's texting you about this, too.
He's texting you.
Because if you're going to go do that,
the nigger, go sit down somewhere,
and let me just continue to ride
the night like us West Coast.
No, don't pop out now and, and, whoops a daisy.
Nick, Ag could not have been happier.
Oh, you know they, oh, yeah.
Oh, you know they're going crazy.
Academics could not have been happy.
West Coast Farrier ass, nigger.
Dot error.
That's what he was.
Yeah, dot error.
He posted and dot air.
I didn't like that.
I didn't like that, man.
Shout to have soul, man.
Waiting here to next freestyle now.
I am.
Yeah.
And you got to kill.
You know, sure.
And he will.
Crazy.
Like, let's not.
He will.
And he might as well pick that beat again and do it right.
Yeah.
Nah, I'll leave that beat.
No, no, no.
He should put that out.
Yeah.
He himself should put that out.
He should do that beat with whatever verse he had where he could read it and be comfortable and put that out.
So the fans at least don't lose so we knew what he was trying to do.
Right.
You said he addressed it.
He acknowledged and said, oh, yeah, yeah, he did.
It was long.
It was long.
Let's see.
He did acknowledge it.
I ain't got to play.
He basically said, I fucked up.
He owned it.
He owned it.
He ain't blamed the beat.
He ain't blamed the headphones.
That's all you can do
You all you can do
You y'all have a take on
I'm sorry Marr
Do you have a take on reason
On Twitter
What reason?
Did y'all see the reason?
I saw it and I don't like
He was like
They gotta get this guy some help
Yeah I'm not
I don't like
And the fans was on reasons
As because it was like
Yo if that's your homie
Then don't tweet that
And then he responded
And said that's not my homie
We're not homies at all
Actually he just dissed me recently
But I love
I have enough love in my heart
to say something.
What side of that are you going?
What is he referring to when he's saying
you should get this guy some help?
Well, that's the part that should be taboo.
That's the part that...
It's not the freestyle.
It's not the freestyle.
And I know he's trying to imply and it's corny.
Got it.
Yeah.
Because that's not the message you say
and sluice the reason I fuck with his music
and think he's dope.
Is it corny even if it's true?
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's not the platform to showcase that
whether we cool or not,
if you're saying it from a place of genuine love,
that's something a back channel gets to
or somebody on the back channel
who can actually get that message to that person.
I agree, and I disagree.
I agree with you.
You're right.
I also disagree,
because I've said that same thing about Kodak
in a tweet, man, times.
Anytime I see a Kodak video come out
and look nuts,
I say, yo, please, can we pray for him
and get this brooms about it?
But there's a big difference
between what Ab did up there
from what we see Kodak
doing on some of these platforms.
There's a big difference between your relationship with Kodak.
Aside from that,
if Absol was up there,
stumbling, falling over,
like looking,
visibly intoxicated a mess.
That's one thing.
If you just fucked up
and you think this
because he was too stoned or something,
like that's...
That's the part that's inappropriate.
That's a little crazy.
The internet and people on the internet
have to stop just diagnosing people.
That would never stop.
Now, you might have some privilege
and information that we don't know about,
but you can't just,
Parks is right.
Based off what we saw,
that's not enough for that heavy of an accusation.
Hey, get this brother some help.
He forgot his freestyle
and he might have smoked some weed before he got to do.
Right.
Yeah.
Like, that's not ring me.
That's not ringney.
Hey, freeze is absolutely right, man.
The drop is here for a reason.
Who's he new?
Go ahead, Mark.
I had a, I've been trying to figure out how to make sense of this.
Kanye West has a new obsolesus.
Oh, my God.
You know every six months and so he got one.
The last thing had like Hove and some sort of familiar faces.
This one, more familiar names, but I was curious.
He tweeted, I am in pain that no one person can fix.
The betrayal.
Therapy.
Right.
Turns out there is someone
And then he gave a list of people who betrayed him
I'm just going to do the list real quick
Kim Kardashian facts okay
I show speed
Wait wait
Speed don't bother no what the fuck speed do
Go ahead go ahead tell you what nigga told me
Diddy that one surprised me because they were just tight
They were just shot at each other out
He was at the courthouse
Oh I just might be manufactured in because the whole
I mean not hold Diddy is a man
That's what I'm saying did he just came to
He just sold the fucking Sean John
Free him shirts
This might be a fake list
I mean he posted it
So oh never mind
Yeah
And that might have been
Opportunistic bro
Go ahead who
Todd Dollar sign
That one
That's facts
Now here's one
None of us
Would disagree with
Harriet Tubman
She was a plant
Yeah
She was a plant
Yeah
In his story
Kanye is going on
The Harriet Tubman
Was a plant
Rance
That's what he's doing
he's done it years ago
she portray him though
right because she don't know you
she shot one of his head
no he's gonna say
what the fuck
every time laying him down
they're gonna in the river
that makes sense to be
anyway
every time I'm gonna fuck Kanye up
seriously
he was official yeah
North West
wait his daughter
yeah
or the direction
I agree
it could have just been directional
I don't talk about
capital in capital W
wait he really added
his daughter to this
yes she's on
I don't know why I have some family
should I ain't going to get into it
but the fact that he mentioned his daughter
is no word
Push him
I know he got a beef with his daughter
I ain't talking about either
because he's kids
He don't want to talk about it
Yeah, I ain't got nothing to do it
Pusher
No surprise there
Freddy Gibson
Cuddy
What down if Freddy Gibbs do to Conier
I'm telling you what he ruled
I know it's say Freddie Gibson
White put his last name
Is there Freddie Gibson
He'd be a funny
Put in his whole last name
What did Freddie Gibbs do to Kanye
Rat
Better
Who else is there
Cutty
Okay I understand that
Curious George
That one for a...
That's one I'm curious about.
The monkey?
I don't know, but one.
There's only one.
It's only curious George.
Donald Trump.
You know, that's so crazy.
Yo.
That's good for you.
This is the first time I've ever thought that.
The curious and curious George was racist.
I thought you something about dude from the beat nuts, man.
That's possible.
But unlikely.
Because why is the monkey curious about?
Everything.
You remember the books?
Are you thought he was a little bi-curious?
Yeah, come on.
No.
You can't make the monkey get...
Look, what's copper right now?
You know, back in the monkey,
you know, all kinds of shit out of this period of day, man.
I'm just saying, today at 45 it reads like, oh,
look at this little.
You know, my man, he woke, he's woke up.
He's a little box.
He's working now.
He is.
He woke the fuck.
Look at this little monkey curious as to why white people are running shit.
Look, look.
Look at these monkeys.
They want to learn about why we the boss.
That does have a little...
All right.
You just watch Planet of the 8.
Pete Davidson.
Pete Davidson.
Makes sense.
All right.
Patrick Starr.
That one also.
That makes sense.
LeBron James.
Patrick Starr makes sense?
Who the fuck is Patrick Starr?
From Spongebob?
From Spongebob, yo.
That's the start.
Okay.
And then rounding out the list is King Vonn, Playboy, Cardi.
Von is dead, you know?
And if you just said that while he was a lot.
This would have had a whole different.
You picked a good time to list that one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
James Murray.
And then the last name, he just wrote Adolf.
all right cool i'm assuming he means adolf reed the professor of political science at university
of pennsylvania oh yeah yeah yeah that's exactly we're for sure that's it yeah i normally don't
respond to conier he tweets because that's what he wants you're gonna be on the next list
is he no i'm not he me and can yeah we ain't got no issue but uh is this just a does this
feel to y'all like a album's coming out it always feels like there's something to sell
it might not be out it's something to sell the easy store going to be back up with $20 off
everything or whatever.
I still hear the last album we put up.
Yeah, me, I think I saw the only one that heard it.
Oh, what was that? Vultures 2?
Yeah.
Yeah, that wasn't good.
All right, niggas is just not over, Kanye.
It's just like, at this point, don't get, like, we have, we don't have to talk about it.
But at this point, what is surprising?
Like, what's new about this?
Kanye is that.
This is the regular schedule program with this name.
It is.
Kanye is that relative that just be in the corner going crazy.
Yeah.
And we know.
Is they in the back room?
We know Timmy in the back.
Yeah, we know.
Speaking of which, Candace Owens.
Oh, shit.
Um, an image or a video clip has been going around.
Niggas is horny.
That's the only way to describe it.
I didn't know about it.
I came in today and people were telling me about it.
Niggas turned Candice Owens.
Just giving a little funny little joint into...
What was you doing?
I can't do it because then they'll...
Not just...
Not in the mic.
You're potter in a month.
You good.
Trust the community potter in a month.
I got you.
And this could be a good start to winning three times in a row.
Yeah, that's true.
This is definitely when you could...
Let's come in to the gig.
I think somebody else should get it.
You're entertaining.
No, no, no, I'm good.
We don't want it.
You already said, we don't care about it.
So, come on.
Whatever she did, she was doing the motion where she was mocking someone
and she had a whole thing when she had a tongue out and started wagging her head back and forth
and looking at her eyes looking up.
I ain't going to lie.
It was the eyes looking up.
And men on the internet objectified her and sexualized.
That was crazy.
Yeah, I kind of do it.
That you all did that.
That's the part that's super crazy.
Y'all needed that clip to do that?
Like for years, we've been telling you y'all now that came to something ain't the worst.
It's shit of hype.
You told me.
Yeah, why y'all need to do this video to do that?
This is what I'm, yeah.
I mean, I'm not saying that.
I'm saying if you look at it.
I mean, you can't say it.
I don't, I'm not saying that.
That wasn't my thought.
It's because it's conservative.
No, because it just wasn't my thought.
Yeah, she spun him for it, tell.
You never fucked a Republican, man.
You want to go, right party.
Wait, actually, actually, a bunch of them, too.
Yeah, not just a lot off.
Mark, you fucked the Republican.
Yes, you had.
Not knowingly.
Okay.
But you have.
I mean, I can't.
And then you found out and then you hit again.
What does she present to be?
I have never knowingly had sex with a Republican.
Would you not?
My wife would hate that shit.
Well, no, don't do that.
That's the out.
That's the out.
That's the out.
No, no.
In my head, I always thought that was one of your leading questions.
Like, what party aside with?
Let me see your voting record.
That might be a king.
I have, that's your king.
No, in my single days, I've never, I don't, first of all, I don't.
You play the bushes.
I'll play the Clintons.
Let's have it out.
Play the bushes is crazy.
I didn't, I don't think I've ever done it because I don't know, I don't, I've never had sex.
No, I've never had sex with a black.
Oh, wait, whoa, what?
No, I'm just taking a turn.
Are you good?
I'm great.
What I was going to say is, I've never had sex with a black Republican.
and I don't have sex with white women.
And I don't have sex with white women.
So the odds are slim.
You know what I'm saying?
I would have to be like, yeah.
So maybe a Spanish Republican?
No.
No.
You've never had sex with a white woman in your life?
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying I didn't do it on a regular basis.
I can count on one hand.
Mark, you know what's funny about that?
To the milk factory boy?
Mark.
Yeah, 46 years.
I can count on one hand, though, is what I'm saying.
I identify with you.
This room
And the guys in this room
Don't seem to be able to compute that
Yeah
Why is that so hard to believe
Because we're lying
Yeah
So we just let him lie
He doesn't say he never has
He's saying it's rare
Few and up far between right
I've been saying for years
That's not my thing
It's not my go-to
It's actually more of a reason
For me to turn away
However
I've slept with white women
In my life
These guys make that to be
Just
Yeah I can think of two
Actually as I'm thinking
You know because you downplay
this shit, like it's only been like one or two.
Check you, nigga.
You downplay it really, really, really low.
Because your thing ago, you said, you go from three and then you forgot to, and then you
forgot to, yeah, you'll say the number of there's five fingers on a hand.
Yes.
You're like five, ten, two hands.
15, 20, 25.
No, at worst case, let's say that they're right and I've slept with seven white women.
I've been fucking since I was 16 years old.
Right.
Seven.
I'm 45.
You hit a rough patch.
If you fuck with seven, if you fuck with seven, if you fuck seven.
white girls, that doesn't say to me
you fuck white girls.
Yeah, that's it. That's it. And for me,
I think the number's two might be three. Like, it's
you know what I'm saying? She said she was mixed, but in retrospect
since she was Puerto Rican.
At retrospect, she was lying. And she was green party anyway, right?
I was 19 also. I was 19. I wouldn't think about
parties. Look like young y'all was. Yeah. Speaking of
fucking white women, real quick, this is not on our topic board,
but it just came to my mind because we talked about fucking white women.
We've already reviewed the Billy Joel doc.
Okay, let's see where this is going.
However, Billy Joe married his best friend's wife, yes.
And not just married, fell in love with, they was really soul-made.
Business partner.
She really took his career, road manager, she took his career, and the Ramon's.
Did the best friend die?
No, no.
He's in the dock.
He's in a dock.
Hey, hey, and to take it a step further, in the great words of you.
after he punched him in his face
and years past
he forgave him
and they began to speak again
well because they got divorced
yeah but I'm curious
where that fell in the kid
no he got sick and then he helped him
oh okay yeah
Billy Joe got sick that was fire
he was by you
fucked my wife took my wife
from me and when you got sick
when nobody was there for you
I was able to forgive you enough to come over there
and save your life
Better man than me.
But that's not where the white girl conversation brought me to.
Right after that, because I was in bed blown away by that.
And then not even 30 minutes later, they introduced Christy Brinkley.
Oh, yeah.
Who was one of the finest hot pieces of white ass around.
1989, yeah.
And that was his new girlfriend.
Yeah, bagged him.
The Lord passed down.
That's it.
Yeah, I'm not familiar, yeah.
That's fire.
Yeah
Billy Joel
That was Billy Joel
for the longest time
Billy Joel
and Christy
Brinkley
I don't know
if I ever knew that
before but watching
it as an adult
I didn't know that
but
Christy Brick
yo they was doing
some sports
Illustrated had all
the high models around
he came in
with this piano
man game
it worked
all the bad
model bitches
surrounded him
started rubbing his
nipples and shit
so now
Billy Joe
was saying
yo I know I'm this
ugly
ugly leprechaun piano man
that has no business with this lady
but here we are.
Yeah, yeah.
And she went and got advice
from somebody saying,
y'all,
I'm with this little ugly nigger,
what am I supposed to do?
And they was like,
listen, you'll find,
there's fine men everywhere.
But if you love him
and he's a good man,
then stay there.
And then they really stayed together.
Yeah.
Talk about it.
Man, make some noise
for bagging a fine white piece of ass
Christy Brinkley.
Make some noise for bag
in a fine white piece of ass
Christy Brinkley.
I can see her being a problem.
Piano man your way into it.
Christy Brinkley
in the 80s.
That's the other part.
Because I'm not old enough,
I know Billy Joel
and I know his cataloged.
But I learned it.
The Billy Joe doc said to me,
Billy Joe started falling off
like when I was born.
That ain't, like 80 to 83.
A lot of the artists that we speak about today
in the highlight,
they had that moment of falling off
and having to catch themselves back.
Yeah, I just didn't know his peak.
His falloff wasn't the best height.
Oh, not at all.
But I just didn't know how.
he was killing shit before I got to the earth.
Every time they said, and we'll move from this,
because we did this already.
Fall off to the River of Dreams and shit.
It was not a bad, you know.
There's worst falloffs.
Right.
Every time they said, yo, this was the biggest selling album
that Atlantic ever did.
The very next album,
broke it.
Yeah.
A man selling five million records in the 70s,
your label never sold that for any artists anywhere.
That's an insane number.
That's an insane number.
Actually, with nobody, your label, he never did it before?
Word.
And I'm playing the piano.
And I turned down Elton John's band,
and I wouldn't got some hoodniggers from New York.
Yeah.
I went to, my guys.
Yo, I really resonated with that Billy Joel story.
Yeah.
And we can move on.
Oh, we can move on.
Speaking of record sales,
there's been some internet fireworks.
Let's do it.
In the last evening.
We waited long enough.
We did.
Yes, yes.
You don't think they made it to this part of the podcast?
No, they still listen.
Oh.
I know they was listening.
Like, these motherfuck.
It didn't even get to the hottest topic.
Oh, no, I wasn't talking about our fans.
I was talking about the people in question.
They are searching.
By the time it gets clipped.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The clippers.
So, as we know, Cardi B has put out in albums,
they had a great first week, over 200K,
impressive number, lots of records broken, et cetera.
Good music.
And excellent music.
I listened to that over the weekend in the car.
I liked it even more than the first time.
I got to say.
It's a really good album.
It's a really good album.
It's a great album.
It's a great album.
Over that time, there have been some Nikki fans, and shout out to Nicky Minaj.
I love both of them.
Nikki Minaj fans who have said that some of the records that are being kind of put out are misleading
and that Nikki still is at the top of the heap, et cetera.
That's been a fan battle back and forth.
Anyway, we all know last week Nikki Minaj posted her, what we think is the album release.
They pitched up a CD in the date, 326, 327.
26. Some people said that was trying to step on Cardi's
pub and all of that. Anyway, beyond that,
last night, at the time of this recording, Nikki tweeted
a cryptic message, somewhat cryptic. She said, to every
enabler, never provoke a writer while they're writing.
You join the game as a willing participant. Don't
try to back out now. 32726. Hashtag rock bottom
nation, hashtag rock inflation. Hashtag rego nation.
You failed. Let the reindeer games
begin we hashtag win again now that went up the internet was buzzing and before the internet
could even get a full conversation about it carty b clapped right back and she tweeted a few
things she tweeted you must have missed me huh crazy now kiss my feet then she followed with
another thing she said nothing more annoying than a board b i tcc h you just said a fucking
bitch no she didn't write it i'm saying she put b blee bl bl blib blib blib yeah yeah i
I would say it in that context.
She just didn't say it.
I don't use the word, but I have no problem saying it, reading it, like, in context.
Being a bitch, my bitch.
Right.
And so then, but it didn't stop there, y'all.
Cardi then went to the direct comparisons between her and Nikki and said,
why you keep bringing up my album?
It's not the gag you think it is.
You've been in the game like 16 years.
You need to compare yourself to your peers that started around your time.
Rihanna, Taylor Swift, Drake, those are the numbers.
numbers you need to be competing with, and you can't because you're doing lower than all of them.
I was in high school when you came out. WTF is you comparing yourself to me for. Now, I'm
just going to get y'all the rest of this, and then we can talk about it. Nikki took it up or not.
She took it further. It no longer was about the music. She took it a little more personal,
and she said, raw dog and pregnant with the fourth baby, Barney B-PV, H-PV.
All right, no, no, no, enough, enough, enough. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
like your Nicki Minaj voice at all.
No, she's putting a lot.
No, these are her putting extra wise at the end of words.
This isn't a person next time.
I just don't like us, you know, but we don't like Mark Minaj.
Mark Minaj voice is sound.
Okay, I apologize.
Well, that's, y'all read it with all the extra letters.
No, try it again.
Try it again.
Try to get a different voice.
What we're also saying is that this stuff is too nasty to be.
It's really personal.
Yeah.
It's really nasty.
It's really outside of music and anything that we cover as a podcast.
I understand that it's hot and juicy.
All of the girls are fighting.
It will continue to get hot and juic, hotter and juicier.
Once y'all start talking about fertility doctors,
check me out.
For fairness to-
Check me out of this.
For fairness to Nikki, I won't read the last week,
but Cardi did respond and accuse her of infertility
and blaming different factors for infertility.
I just want some people don't say,
I didn't read Carly's last.
The things that they are slinging about each other
and to each other, I want no part of.
It takes away from my excitement even about
them being adversaries.
Well, that's the thing.
I love a good competition.
I love a good beef.
I hear what you're saying.
I can understand our stance on that as men, right?
Just budding into women's arguments and conversations.
But the mudslinging ain't no different from what Drake and Kendrick was doing.
It is different.
Not to me.
Throwing around pedophilia and all that stuff.
But it is different if we are to believe.
that those brothers had a conversation
at some point.
Okay.
I also think it's a little bit different
when it's rapid.
Yes, but the contents
of that conversation, right?
Like, some people say
that they offered to fight.
Some people say that.
So when I'm listening to this Nikki Cardi shit,
that's the difference between women mudsling
and men mudslinging.
And men mudslinging,
this is just going to get to a fight at some point.
Mm-hmm.
Women.
Or that for the bitch niggas.
Said a lot.
Or that.
There's our clip.
Why?
Who's doing?
I don't know about it.
Nothing.
Is somebody not a bitchnaker?
I was asleep.
I don't know.
There's more suits.
I don't get a fault.
What I'm saying is the girls before they get to fistacuffs are going to get really personal first.
Guys might not do that.
We're getting right to this fight.
When I see you, we're going to fight.
That's it.
women
you had to go see doctor
you can't have a baby
oh okay
yeah they do a lot
All right you got it
They subscribe
That's out of my ministry
If you go low
I take it to hell
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
Well in fairness
Cardi
I mean if I understand
The report's correctly
And I could be wrong
I'll correct me if I'm wrong
There was an attempt to fight years ago
Before all this happened right
Didn't Cardi run up on her
Through a shoe
She was thrown
Yeah but that was after
After people were held back
I'm not
I'm not think
I don't have a side of this
I don't care
But what Joe is saying
men will
you come without your people
I come without my people we go over here
and we do what we got to do
no what I'm saying is it seemed like
they're not going to do that
whatever happened at Matt Gala
unless they had the same strip club together
somewhere and even then that's not going to happen
too many people around
Marty has people on her side
Nikki has people on her side
those two people are never going to fight
so we're just going to say the nastiest things
we could possibly say
about each other
like Cardi's talking about Nikki's whole family
that's out of my ministry
like it takes my excitement out of it
if we're not going to get bars
and y'all going to just be below the belt
yeah I didn't like it
even when they were going back and forth
about record sales and judge yourself
against your peers and all that
whether I agree or disagree
now that's where I want to
that's where I want to say that to me
that's the conversation I want to be a part of
once you start getting into people's bodies
and babies and fertility and health
and all that shit it's nasty
and before we get to that record sale part
I would like to hear what y'all have to say
about what Cardi is saying
about who Nikki's peers are.
What do y'all think about that portion
in Mark Red?
I think she's correct.
Rihanna, Drake, Taylor,
those are the people you came out with.
Why are you even looking at me
who came from a much later class?
What do y'all think about that?
I think she's correct in certain ways
and I also think that she's kind of now using that
to kind of not have to live up to that same legacy
because you want to compete with Nikki.
You've been doing things to compete.
with Nikki. Whether you've said it out your mouth
or not, you are doing things. She did.
You do want to be her peer. For me, before I get
to that, I know that Nikki's
last album did something like 228
and Cardi did
200. $199.6 if you
let them tell it. What are we going to get
to that? We're in the same ballpark
is all I'm saying. Like, it's not like
one is blowing the other person out the water. It doesn't
seem like a fight
worth having.
No, no. Because when they have
you know how it is it's the internet we keep the files
so they immediately pulled up
the spaces the recording of her
telling them y'all gonna be
who's her? Cardi telling
y'all gonna be crying when I drop
because I'm out selling chicks I'm out
hitting y'all y'all are gonna be crying
all y'all that want me to fell
almost everybody but not the one
that you're talking about
oh you only you did not you just talking about
it's been them too all a little
everybody else that's in this mix
is because I'm on one side of the other
When did Cardi say that on Spaces?
I'll get the date.
That's one.
Two, I understand the fan base highlighting, hey, you didn't pass that 200K mark.
But also, though, the first week in hip hop has been overblown for a while.
This is about life of the project.
It also gets really confusing when both of their projects had singles that were out way before the project comes in.
And now there's projected sales getting at it.
I don't know what the fuck is.
It's different when one is coming off of six, seven.
seven, eight, nine, ten times platinum project, which is carding.
Like, I've seen the number reported different, but I've never seen the reported
lower than six.
So you sold six million records.
It's safe.
You could say him, but you could say that.
Now, if you said that, which you did, Nikki can say, oh, bitch, yeah, $199.6, guess you
didn't do it.
I'm still the only one in my class.
I think Cardi shouldn't even speak to having to lean into that we're not peers.
You guys are peers at this point.
We view you as peers, whether it be on an artistic level or not, you guys are fighting the same fight.
That's how I view it.
So when she said that, it was kind of like trying to relinquish yourself from the competition that you've already participated in.
You and Nikki are obviously the two women that we look at as the top two to even have to consider who's the queen of hip hop at the moment.
Stop it.
It is.
Stop it.
Even though I don't, I don't personally, I don't have it as a...
It is. Why does we consider in that conversation?
There's nobody.
I don't want to get to talk.
If I'm Nicky Minaj, I don't want to hear that.
I'll just get ready to say there is no competition.
If I'm Nicky Minaj, you can't say that around me.
And I don't want to, I don't want to present that side of the argument because I'm not picking a horse and fight right now.
Right now, I'm not.
I understand both sides.
And to the people that was confused when Mona was here and me saying I'm in both hives, it's because I'm from New York.
Like, I don't know what the fuck you internet kids is doing.
out there. I'm from New York.
Cardi's from the Bronx and Nicky's from Queens. I'm from New York.
I'm for New York. And I'm from neither.
I'm from Philly and for me.
You like Bahamadilla and Jade. What's the name and all of them?
Miss Jay. Miss Jay. I love Ms. Jade. I mean I do that.
I'm sorry. I misrepresented Ms. Jay. I love Ms. Jay.
Thank you. And shout to Bahamadea, one of the greats too. But my point is, as an outsider,
I don't want to feel like I have to choose between them anymore than people.
I would have to choose between Kendrick and Drake. I may have preferences.
But this idea that you got to pick aside to me as wow. And I hate the
way the moment now is like if you say anything
about Cardi, it must mean you
anti-Nickey or vice versa.
And us as broadcasters, if we offer a criticism
of Cardi, then we
pick the side. We love those moments.
We've enjoyed it in every part of his.
It's a hip-hop thing. It's a hip-hop thing.
I just never like it.
As much, I don't like that is getting this
nasty and dirty, but when we had the
Jay and Nas moment, we felt like we had to pick
aside. I don't see, I don't feel like Jay and Nas
we had to pick a side in the same way. People picked.
I didn't think. It's just the internet
the end-in-a-5s all this shit.
That's what it is.
With Jay and Nas, like people pick sides.
But you didn't have to pick a side.
With Cardi and Nicky's number, it feels like you have to pick a side.
Almost like with Drake and Kendrick, like you have to pick aside.
That's the shit I feel.
Remember I was at, we were still playing Nas and Jay Z.
That's what I'm saying.
And Marlind Jersey, we still playing both.
You might say Nas won or Hov won, but you still was playing both.
Right, we were still Madigan.
There was no way for you to love hip hop and not play both.
This new option didn't exist back then.
Yeah.
This new, what the hives are doing and what the fans are doing.
That's, this separatism shit is new.
internet shit, social media shit
not just internet, it's social media
shit that forces people
the sheep to feel like
I gotta pick one side and if I'm on this side
I can't fuck with nothing that side doing. But the artist is playing into
it too. Of course. Because they're not
a weaponized. They're fan base in a certain way.
Both of their music is too fire for you to really stand on one
side of the defense. Guess what? Guess what's
happening to March? Nicky's coming with heat.
Yeah. Guess what's happening right now?
That Cardi Sheep's heat. Yeah.
Both going to have a fire tour.
Both going to go ahead and...
You say a lot...
You say a lot of things that if I'm a barb,
I don't want to hear none of that shit.
You've got to hear it.
No, I don't.
No, I don't.
You really do not have to hear that shit.
You've never toured.
You've done nothing to prove that you could be in this conversation.
I'm speaking about you like you in the same breath as me.
You've never toured.
You're going out with 900 artists.
You're doing a type of bundle shit.
I went domestic and international.
and sold out everywhere.
I don't want to hear that hot shit you want.
So you want me to pick a side at this part now.
So I can't, I can't view Nick,
because we went to Nicky's show,
and Nikki's show is amazing.
Fire.
I now can't go to a Cardi show
whether she did a tour before
and consider it a fire show.
If it's a fire show, I'm not allowed to say that.
That's a totally different conversation.
That's what I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.
You can't get if Cardi show is fire,
I'm going to come in here and say,
yo, that shit was absolutely crazy.
Yeah.
That's not what we're saying.
That's not.
We're saying that you saying they're both going to go out
tour and have a fire tour.
If you see one of them do it,
I get that.
We can't keep saying that they both are the same.
And we've seen one do everything.
That's not what I'm saying.
Nobody said they were the same,
if you say that we both going to go on tour
and put on a fire show
and one person has never went on a fire show
and what are you saying?
You don't know that.
You don't know that.
We don't know.
That's based on nothing.
You're just being positive.
Okay.
Come on, nigga.
You can say, I hope she put on a fire show,
but you don't.
She has no track record to put on fire show.
If we get into the semantics of what you guys are saying,
yeah, you know what they're doing.
You need to be a semantic.
You just said she sold six million and ten million records.
Yes, I'm assuming.
I'm assuming that she will, based off the music that she has,
based off of the relationship, based off of a crowd,
a big part of what's going to make that tour fire is the crowd
and how they come to show up for her.
So, yes, I'm assuming on the Cardi side.
They're talking about.
They're talking about.
We've seen it.
And putting on the actual show.
Cool.
I'm saying to you.
You know what's going to make them shows different too?
You tricked me in a half.
having this talk now
friend groups
friend groups and features
and you was at the Nicki show with me
so when she wasn't out there and the DJ was out there
the same shit because fire amazing
they took you on a trip
from when you was
18 I see what he's saying he's doing 13
you know who the hottest crews were last
decade she was affiliated with them
I think Cardi's feature game is A1
but their newer acts
And not just that is all
It's Rob 49
It's JT
It's Glorilla
It's Kalani
It's Lado
You got Bruno Mars
Features too
That's like
Yeah
That ain't
I'm talking to hip hop
I'm talking about
I'm going to a hip hop show
And somebody playing
Hip Hop Slaps
For three hours
You're correct
There's nothing to say
There's not a
The conversation
That Cardi show
Should be
The conversation
Isn't
Who's going to have
A better show
Because at this point
That's not my conversation
Just put on a good show
Good shows
A good shows
A good
show to me at this part
if Cardi can do that on top
of already drop it a great album
there's no conversation that we need to have
as far as comparing but we can at least say
she's doing her part I want a record with these two
I would love to I would love for that
I don't want people to think I'm just
up here perpetuating violence
right I've the the
end all to this is dumb holding the blue
and red flag up in the air and doing
records I would love it came up
on that fucking A time remix
and if Nikki comes on a third verse of that that's
fine. Motorsport. That shit is fire.
Any song that either one of them
do, you can hear the other one come right
behind them. Maybe not now.
Maybe in five years, if everybody's still here and alive.
We don't know. We get another fucking thugging
lucci shit. Life is long.
A feature swap. Yeah.
But that's down the line. But again,
if they could come back from that, because I'm about to say,
his lines crossed. But you could still come back from.
My Nicki critique is when you come,
be direct.
when you come be direct
don't give us all these tweets
like you're about to smack the shit out of bitches
or like this tracks is coming
or like you're about to answer on your album
and then when your album come
it's just the hits and we rap
little subtle little subtle jazz
be direct
you know what where Cardi is winning at
being direct
hey Ice spice fuck you bitch
hey you I ain't thinking about you
bitch fuck you
Cartney is saying
with her Megan shit
she was very direct
so I don't think that she's not direct
There's been mixed reviews about that disc track.
Well, because of it, because of the chain.
If you're being direct, part of being direct is how we receive.
Cardi wasn't very direct with the shots that we think were at Nikki on the album.
Yeah, you what, you what?
I disagree with that.
She didn't say her name.
Yes, you're right.
I totally disagree.
Some of y'all out there talking about some Akbar.
The very next bar says, hey, every trip you take with your nigger, you're paying for it.
None of y'all have seen Akbar on a trip with her nigger.
What are y'all talking about?
I follow Akbar
I follow Nicky
I follow Cardi
Where are the trips
That Akbar is on
Where the world is saying
Hey your nigga baby
You can't
You can't
You can't
You can't
You know what internet takes
Yo I know hip hop
I know the fuck
Somebody somebody's talking
Joe
She did a sublimity
She talked direct
No because the internet
Is a subliminue
A rapper
Hey no she's talking to Akbar
Hey yo don't waste my time
A subliminal is not direct
So don't sit here
And go ahead and say
Be direct
Set the fuck on
Don't do that
You're arguing
I know
I know
I know she was
You got it
I hate the internet
No he's screaming be direct
Right
No I can't use an example
As a subliminal
That's a subliminal
Joe was saying
He knows exactly who she was talking to
I think what y'all is saying
He knows
Being vague and direct
And what I'm saying
That's still not a direct
Hit the way
Cardio Bia was
Where you literally say
Diary of Bia
I mean there's no confusion
about that
Yeah but she could also feel
comfortable doing that
Because she might not think
Bia is someone who
can match up to her level, right?
But you ain't going to do that with Nikki
because, you know, if you do that with Nikki
and you get that direct.
Why she's not going to do that with Nikki?
Because Nikki is the top of the top rappers at this point.
Nikki ain't shown nobody that her disc track
is something to run away from.
I'm saying that.
That Remy Mawkshit that she did was in so.
That's where they're getting that from.
I'm not saying that about Nikki.
I love Nikki.
When the Remy track came out, you were there,
you know what was said, the MAG track.
Like, you know what's being said.
Say what you want to.
about Cardi, the
diss hits. When she
diss, it hits. And Park's old crib
he used to have a dart shit, the dart
shit in the kitchen. Sometimes we used to go up
there. Bullseye. Sometimes because
Parks will practice more, he'd go out there, bull's eye.
Sometimes they hit the mark, nigger. Sometimes
you go to shoot somebody, that's the person
that died. That's the
run that Cardi is on. I'm telling you something.
That's the run she on. Any
bitch I target with my crew,
my team, not my writer.
the motherfuckers get hit
so if Nikki is going to do it
I'm just saying do it
if you're going to do it
do it in the bitch
end it you dope enough and powerful
enough to where if you don't want to hear from her no more
you could put another eight years on top of the seven
she's going to put on herself and we'll never hear from
Cardi B again
no I don't think she could do that
I want to say that shit I don't think she could do that
not by herself but it wouldn't be by herself
see part of being a rapper is knowing
when to align and who to align with you're pregnant you've had a baby every year the label might be off you you took a eight seven year break on your own like all i got to do is come add be an additive which we know she know how to do because the whole nicky and meek relationship she said yo these are all the ways i added to him and we saw it it worked she knows how to add Nikki's a brilliant yo she looks like she looks right now but nicky is brilliant and cardy's if she's not brilliant she has brilliant people
people around. I'm going to say she's brilliant because I've seen when she started
and where she's at. They both brilliant. They both
brilliant. They both are brilliant
thinkers. They both running their shit. Swash it and give us some
music or one of y'all kill the other one like fucking
Dolf Lundgren and Apollo.
We don't need all these girl rappers.
There's not a world where both can exist but not have to...
We've seen that world. We've seen that world already. What did it do?
we've seen that world
I got my bodack yellow
and I got my classic first
Cardi album and Nicky is Nikki
so you got the
decade plus run
of that.
I'm interested in her set list
on this tour. That's all I want to see.
That'll tell me a lot.
I said way more on this topic than I wanted to.
I know.
Actually, I wanted us
I wanted to just sit out.
We talked when we wasn't going to do.
Before we spoke on this part,
we said, yo, it's too messy.
Let the girls be the girls.
We don't want to talk about this at all.
We was just going to talk about the sales part.
And we mainly did.
I mean, we didn't get into the, I mean, there are other.
We left the nasty shit about.
You hear what she said?
We ain't getting them.
I think it's responsible to report
that it wasn't just a sales beef
that it got personal and nasty.
We reported it and then we went past it.
You know, these two artists deserve to be,
I mean, even though we might not want to highlight
the, but it's a hip-hop moment.
Now, some of the stuff
that's going along with it are some nasty shit
but at the end of the day it's two premier acts
in hip hop who are slugging it out
and like you said we would like to
see y'all go if y'all to go that route
go music route let us be able to
judge baseball for the music that you guys are putting out
if one person is saying you're not that talented
and other person is saying well why you even compete
go ahead do it musically and let's go from there
and the words of Gina views
get in the booth
her tour is right after she drops the baby
I'm curious to see how does that
you know it starts in what with February
right?
Yeah.
I'm curious how does that affect her.
Nicky's in March dropping, so
listen, that's the moment
when we start to see what happens.
It's right there.
That's the other difference.
See, Nikki knows the power,
impact, and effects of the barbs.
Of course.
I don't know that Cardi has that
with her gang.
Only because she hasn't toured yet,
is what I'm saying.
I think every...
Tour is when you see it.
I think every...
Spend money is totally different.
See, every female rapper should go sit and watch a Nikki show.
That should be a requirement as far as if you want to go ahead
and be a part of this game and that type of level.
Nicky's show is, forget just the stage,
just to experience itself with the way she curate her fan base
and how much they feel like they are a part of it.
That shit is amazing to watch.
That's like artist 101.
If you are female artists trying to make it as a female rapper,
I get that, of course.
That show was so good.
That's when Amani dubbed that Big Titty White Biss that was on his body.
Yeah, I couldn't even pay attention her.
Yeah, that's a Nicky
when you put on a gray show. She was on you, too.
I'll be back.
You tell what?
Nah, nothing.
You got a next time.
They didn't come up when you're talking about me and white women.
You're not in the big titty white girls, aren't?
You're not in the big tities.
I like them, but they...
I never seen you with like a big titty joint.
Buzz it to the slim gym.
Slim joints, right?
Not like fat asses.
For real?
But of late, I've been like it more petite.
Yeah.
You've been slim.
You've been slim-jipping it out, you've been snagging into a slim-jim for a little.
You've been on the slim way for, man.
You've been on a slim-jew-of-late because it's...
Of late.
You got a nigga start talking.
He's not.
He's fired, nigga-knit-for.
You're a titty-fought?
I had a pass.
But it's not a go-to.
What years is the past?
What's the last time I gave a little...
And why you think I'm going to think, too?
218.
Yeah, we don't want to hear your story.
We don't want to hear your story.
2018 was like the last little...
I don't talk about that.
Yo, Joe, you can't just...
Talk about that.
I ain't titty fuck since like 99, nigga.
Oh, okay.
Like, seriously, that shit, I haven't figured out
how to do it and not be awkward.
Titty fucking is mad pointless.
I've never done it successfully.
Because it's not a physical thing.
It's supposed to be, though.
No, it's not.
None of the niggas supposed to come from that shit.
You're trying to get a shit off.
No, they are.
Yeah, you're right.
I get it.
You're right.
You're trying to.
I have an educated talk with me.
I'm trying to.
The guys are coming from that.
Yes, but I also, do you know that coming is not always attached to just the physical.
It's a combined of the visual and the mental.
Oh, you want the niggas that be coming in a closet off of, off of a fucking, off of salty.
Off a Polaroid.
This thing is a mental thing.
You keep the mental picture with a windblow.
Hey, we got you.
Talk to women more, man.
They'll tell you that these are the things that get them off.
I'm not going to be a dope to the fucking.
Sorry.
That's how you do it.
Sorry.
I wish there was a way to transition out of this.
movie. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just going to move on.
Speaking of titty. You do that shit?
Like, in your day?
Occasionally.
Yeah. When's the last time?
To the Republicans, too?
Or just the Democratic?
Republican titty fucking is crazy.
Which I also think should be the title of this episode, but
it'll get a bad problem.
I thought that too with that.
Republican titty fucking.
Sometimes circumstances,
sometimes circumstances,
you got fewer options on a given night.
And sometimes that be the option.
Okay, okay.
Okay, I see what you take.
I'll follow.
I'll see what you're taking the coach.
Just can't titty fuck a ugly girl.
Shit.
Well, I'm not into it, period, but why not?
Because as you're doing it and you're looking down.
You got to see her.
You got to see her face.
Well, she got great tities.
Ugly girls be having great tips, though, sometimes.
I know.
So you just do it like this.
Stevie one to that shit.
You just got to not look up.
Overjoyed.
If you really love.
If you're building.
A castle of love.
Mark, you had something else, yo?
I do.
Anything else will work right now, but a quick ditty update.
Oh, shit.
From Titty, fucking and ditty.
I don't see how he won part of the month, you was doing that all September.
You know what?
When you fly at a high level, you have to, like, do some other shit to win.
After a while, they get tired.
They get tired of your greatness.
Oh, because you think that.
Tell me about it.
No, I understand your position now, because then what happens is somebody comes out of the, you know,
someone wins the prize, gets on the floor.
Or maybe you're just limiting what potting looks like.
Maybe y'all think it's just talking.
Maybe there's a whole other thing that goes into potting
that can make this more entertaining.
Like what?
Oh, I don't know.
Maybe dancing a little singing, maybe a little bit.
Entertaining.
Just, you know.
You say shuffle?
Oh, shit.
Little shuck and or jive.
Whatever works.
Big Saj coming back.
Oh, then you're going to get it again.
Yeah, if he jumped.
No, no.
Shit, I see.
I ain't doing it.
I'm not doing it.
So Diddy is, as we know, at the end of this week,
facing sentencing.
The prosecutor in New York
reportedly
at the time of this broadcast,
I'm going to say this again, reportedly at the time of this
broadcast, according to multiple news sources,
has said the prosecutor requested
11 years.
Now, some people have said,
and we have not confirmed this yet,
that the prosecutor is asking for 11 years
but that much of it be on probation,
but still once a sentence of 11 years,
others have suggested that the, that the
prosecutor wants a full 11
years in prison. It is unclear
which, but the very idea of saying
that you should be convicted of 11 years
for this is the thing that people are
talking about right now. And that conviction will be
towards the crime of prostitution? For soliciting
prostitution. Okay. And this
is, again, where it gets complicated.
One of the things that the prosecutor has
pointed out is the
victim impact statements.
One of the victim impact statements comes from Cassie.
It is a very
very very powerful letter really it is hard to read it and not be affected by it to not be saddened by
it and to not feel for her in every way victim impact statements really do impact judges decisions
and I can't imagine that this one won't the question people have to ask though I think is
how do you weigh the impact that this person had on a victim that no one disputes when
that's not the thing they were prosecuted for.
That's what I was going to ask.
And that's the moral and ethical dilemma.
So if you,
because she's talking about all the ways
that Diddy controlled her,
all the ways that even when she,
when Diddy asks the question,
it's really a demand and an order,
and she knew how to read his moods,
and she knew how to say she wanted to do X
because he was demanding why,
and she knew the punishments that were coming from it.
And of course, everyone has seen this video.
The prosecutor also talked about the fact that,
or suggested that Diddy's actions
are consistent with people who got 10 or 11 years
in prison.
So when you look at all of that,
again, you have to ask yourself,
what is the right way to judge
Diddy's appropriate sentence?
I don't have an answer for you.
That's for us to discuss,
but I think that's at least the thing
we need to think about,
and I don't think it's as cut and dry either way.
I can say something,
because whatever I'm going to say,
I'm probably most likely
going to get shitted on for us.
So y'all go ahead.
No, I think as potters,
we should not do that.
We should either say it or not say it,
but I still say it.
As I'm trying to build suspense
for what he got to say
on some part of the marches.
This is the fuck up, man.
He's trying to buy it.
He's trying to cook out.
You know, what I got to say is,
I can't say that real.
I'm shattering.
Not nasty, nigga.
You don't need that, boy?
Calm down, Mr. October.
This is nasty.
Yeah, when you win one season,
the other teams get the footage.
Yeah, we're watching your play.
You get more difficult, bro.
Yeah, yeah, they put two defenders on you.
We're too focused on me at this moment.
Just making a little less focus back on the topic.
You made it by saying that fucking statement.
Well, because I wanted to hear you out before I said.
So what you're saying is we weren't too focused on you and you
when you made it about you.
Good playback.
Wow.
Or maybe I was being a team player
and passing a ball instead of wanting to teach.
Being a team player is not saying.
I'm not going to say what I got to say to this.
Yeah, that wasn't.
It's just too deep.
No, no, we're excited.
No, we're excited.
Let's let me want to hear what you're going to say.
No, no, no.
Go on Mr. Artoe what you got to say.
You don't even got shit to say.
Morally, no, morally, I agree with
her victim impact statement
should be considered, right?
Morally.
Yeah.
But he's not on trial for that.
at the moment.
Whatever she's speaking to in that.
And Mark just said that.
It don't matter.
They'll clip it up.
Let me.
That's what they do.
Well, let me add.
The second place bought it.
Let me say something.
Are you still on your take from the second place?
Yeah.
You think that's wise.
You're all playing dirty with that shit, boy.
I think it would be a horrible statement to convict a man with 11 years for prostitution.
If that's what he was convicted for and that is the crime that we are speaking to, we're not
talking to about anything else morally,
anything else that we've seen,
because all that shit we've seen,
we thought were disgusting.
We still think it's disgusting.
You know what he's convicted.
Well, I'm speaking to the law.
The law, right?
So he was convicted of prostitution.
I don't think anybody up here
would want to sentence someone
to 11 years in jail
for prostitution.
Here is what the prosecutor will say to you.
Did you fuck one of my prosecutors?
No, you gave him all this.
All right.
See?
Here's what the prosecutor would say to you.
Part of what we have to determine is a person's ability to go back into society, a person's
threat to society.
That's what they would say to you.
And that if this person is known for physically attacking people, for averting the law,
for doing all these things that we might know factually, even based on Diddy's own
and his lawyer's own testimony during the trial.
Yeah, I did these things I'm fucked up, but that's not what I'm going to trial for.
That's the argument, right?
should that impact the prosecutor would say that should impact the sentencing because this person's not ready to go back right now this person doesn't deserve to get right back into society because of all the harm that we know they're going to do based on what they did last month last year last decade etc i'm not saying i agree with that but that's just i'm just saying there's an i don't think it's cut and dry i'm inclined so people don't say i don't give a take my my my suggestions people should not be prosecuted or sentenced more harshly because for crimes that they weren't convicted for that's my general rule because the system has
has to be fair. Because while we might hate what Diddy did and hate Diddy, that could also be used
for somebody else. That could be used for our uncles and our cousins and our aunties and our
sisters when they get a relatively minor crime like shoplifting, but they say, yeah, but we know
they were selling drugs. Right. And then suddenly somebody's getting two years for a misdemeanor
because of what we think or even know they were doing in the community. The system has to be able
to prove its case and meet its burden. I don't think, to your point, that that's not
necessarily the moral answer, but the law and legal ethics is not the same as morality.
And we have to make a distinction between sort of our own moral compasses and what legal ethics are.
And at this point, he's no longer, well, he's no longer on trial at this point.
Everything is done. We've already decided morally how we view diddy. Right.
Morally, we look at him how we look at him. He's been on trial in that sense for us from day one. And we kind of closed the book on that. He's a piece of shit. He did what the fuck he did. We don't fuck with it, boom, boom. If he was on trial for that, slap him with whatever.
sentence you can give him because it's clear as day for us. All this other stuff that the
Man Act and all the things that you could not get on him and you caught him on prostitution,
now let's go by the law. That's the fair way to go about this process at this point.
We have to remove our moral stance at this moment and just deal with the outcome that we got
dealt with. He did not get convicted of the Man Act. He did not get convicted of this. He did not
get convicted. He didn't get convicted on that. So whatever was provided by the prosecution wasn't
enough to get the law, the people who were actually his
jurors to convict them on that.
So we have to now move from that process.
Remove your moral feelings, remove all of your person and shit.
He's going to be sentenced.
What is the fair sentencing for what he was convicted for?
So let me ask your question then.
How do we determine what a fair sentence is?
Because if there's a guideline, two to ten years,
how do we decide who gets two and who gets ten?
Case study, which is what the prosecution is supposed to bring up.
thing they look at is this is a
first-time offender as well.
Exactly. It's not many first-time
offenders that you could justify giving the
max to. Each count carries up to
10 years. Right. So you look
at you, they're asking for 11.
I don't
repeat offender, yeah.
I'm with y'all. Piece of shit. We saw the video
but at the same time
that's not what we convicted or we said
that. If the prosecution can show
case study of past convictions
that led to that
level of sentencing? And the prosecutor is saying yes.
Cool. If they can do that and that's what they land.
Cool. To be clear, just for the audience to sake, that
is the, that is the prosecutor's argument, that
that there are comparable cases to Diddy
where they did get those 10 years. I don't know
if it's true or not, but that's the prosecutor's argument.
To be clear, I got that today. New York Post reported
that that's what I'm reading it from today.
If they can provide that, then I'm
all for whatever is the end result because
at that point, then everything that you're saying
as far as the other things that he might have not been convicted
for or judge based
on could affect him moving
in society after that and they can show
past the situations where that person
got 11 to whatever, cool.
But if that's not enough evidence to show
that at this point, and that's the hard part.
Then we have to convict and sentence him
in the proper manner. Because no two cases are the same.
So what they're going to do basically
is draw a parallel between him and somebody who's probably
nothing like him. Now, you have to do that because
no two situations are the same, no two people
are the same. And so the debate probably
is going to be
how comparable to
did he is that case for, is
that case study we're drawing from those cases that were drawn from different type of powerful man who
has access to whole another world in comparison so i get it who here thinks that puff is getting
11 years or more no one i think this is what i think he's going to get i think if he gets 11 years
it's going to be mostly supervised release in home they they may want to put a big number on
the board so they can say we sentence him to 11 years and to keep a kind of surveillance on him which
is another thing that the state does which again i don't love in general is they instead of giving you six
months, they'll give you five years with four and a half suspended or whatever so that you're home,
but you're always a doorstep at the doorstep of the criminal legal system. So that might be what
they do. So to answer your question, it would not shock me if they gave him 11 years, but he's not
going to spend 11 in prison. I think they may give him 10 years, eight and a half suspended. He's
already done a year. He does six more months. That's how I think it's going to look. That's what I think
is going to probably happen. See, I can't see that. You see it differently to me. So
Is there anybody that see him coming home
Me? That day?
I see him walking out. Friday?
I don't see him walking out. I think he gets six more.
I think he's going to spend six more months if I were just guessing. I don't know.
And to me, that's the same as coming home.
Yeah.
If they got him in there for six more months and he come home in April for the summer, then.
And that's what I'm saying.
Ten years, eight and a half suspended.
That means a year and a half left.
He did a year time serve out in six months.
That's what I'm saying.
All right.
So that's paperwork tricks.
That's my point.
That way they, but it's not just paperwork tricks, though.
It's also, for the next eight and a half years,
we have the right to watch every move you make in any misstep.
You're trying to get you back in.
Basically, trying to get you back in.
I think that's happening for the rest of his life anyway.
Yeah, period.
I think so, too.
But it's even harder where you've got to go in for a piss test
for every month for the next decade.
It's even harder when they have a right to run in your career,
when they have a right.
You just lose so many rights when you're in prison.
And when they put you out, if they parole you...
That's you thinking that parole is the same for everybody.
It may not be the same thing.
It's not.
But I think they're mad that they...
Plenty times I walk.
in the probation and they made me skip to
fucking piss test because I had a
I'm with you but I think
I think the fat pro is different. It's a different
process. I think they may want revenge. Yeah, I don't
think they may want revenge. They got egg on their face and they're
the state's embarrassed. They got egg on their face
and they don't like that shit. So they're going to try to get them back
the best thing. They're just trying to wipe the egg off their
face. Yeah, so I don't think Joe's
take is necessarily wrong. I think it
could go that way to. I don't know that's just, I'm sorry
Mark. Yeah, please.
I'm not sure why that
prosecutor was removed.
public opinion is
they have egg on their face
from how you lost that case
but that's not the word on the curb
what's the word on the curb i don't know it i ain't saying it okay
but the word on the curb is uh believe it is trump nepotism
nepotism shit essentially let's just say that okay
because dad was already i mean i'm just saying
this is not my area of expertise and i don't know
more will be revealed and that's when i'll kind of surmise
but yeah I just don't know I don't know right now work but I don't see him doing 11 years and even I agree with some of what you say even if they gave it to him they're not giving it to him yeah they're not giving it to him and I and I just turned down 50 million dollars from the this gentleman four times three times I'm getting some money from this nigga I'm getting some money out of him get them back yeah don't get them back in that's a plan a lot of people there was some people that thought that this whole shit was just to see some assets and gain control with some shit mm-hmm like I'm getting
Like, my conspiracy brain is still in play, but this broadcast are too big, so I ain't going to talk about none of it.
Well, can let me use more will be revealed.
For sure.
Let me use my conspiracy brain for this Eric Adams thing, too.
And I don't even think it's a conspiracy at this point.
The current mayor of New York, Eric Adams, has withdrawn from the race.
He won't be pursuing re-election.
He already didn't run the Democratic primary, though he's a Democrat.
So he always was playing a kind of long-shot game.
He knew he couldn't win the primary as an unpopular candidate, but he thought he might be able to win the general as an independent.
Andrew Cuomo kind of came in and knocked him out the box with that.
Zohran Mamdani, the Democratic nominee, is leading,
but it's far from a finished battle.
What the Republican structure is basically doing is saying,
we're going to take everybody out and make it so that everybody's voting against Mamdani
as opposed to it being a field.
So the first thing is get Eric Adams out.
If he's running at 5%, 6%, even whatever.
And you said that before.
Yeah, I told you that was going to happen, right?
And he's out.
It was either him or Cuomo had to go.
We'll get home boy with a little red hat out of there.
That's it.
Curtis Leeward, former Guardian Angel.
Maybe he still is, who knows.
Get him out of there.
He's the actual Republican nominee.
Let's get him back to just walking around third half.
On a two train.
They used to be deep.
Let's send him back to where he belonged.
Exactly.
Cardi and Angel used to be deep.
So that means everybody.
Say the 80s no more, you can jump.
Yeah.
Cardian Angels.
You don't respect that shit.
No, no, it did.
You know, please respect to that red hat.
In the 80s.
In the train station.
Like the war.
Like the war.
Warriors.
Come out and play.
Them niggins ain't been back.
They're clear for closing doors.
They can get out of here.
They ain't been back down there since the crime got lit again too.
Hey, home boy.
You can go right down there.
They're killing.
But there's a play here just so y'all know, right?
So Curtis Lewa, I assume, even if he stays in the race, probably won't poll super high.
But it's hard to get Republicans to not pull the level for the Republican.
And to get the, just the average voter who's a Republican is going to pull the Republican lever.
they're not going to pull for Andrew Cuomo independent.
So they really need leeway out of there, right?
That's the thing.
But this is coming from on high.
I guarantee you, within the next month,
you will see Eric Adams be appointed to something big.
Oh, yeah.
Or something lucrative.
That's the play.
Trump is effectively pulling Adams out
and trying to help Cuomo to ascend.
Which is wild, because y'all remember during the pandemic
when Cuomo was...
Oh, in Trump's eyes.
Yeah, he was Trump's biggest.
him. He was his nemesis. And Trump is
once again putting his thumb on a scale
and buying his
opposition. So just wait for that
and then see where Curtis Lee would land. I never thought
that would be your ringtone, Corey.
Go ahead.
That was changed that shit.
You thought that show would be
Bairm, bann, bann, bann,
bam. That's such a regular shit. He just got the
He got the original ringtone
niggins. He's too tough to do that.
He too, too, do, do, do.
And also, we've been talking big money
Ice
Ice has a story
about big money
He knows someone
Freeze one bread
You were bread
I thought he was going to the joint
I thought he was about to go to the joint
Freeze
I was like
He was gonna freeze out of it right
For opposite day
Oh shit
Oh shit
Watch you
Hey yo
Don't talk to freeze like that
Nah
No my man
Yo my man yo
Yo my man yo
You big dog
Nick on the church talks
With this
You my man
You're good
Freeze on the church stocks
I violated.
My man free, look at my phone.
I violated, yo.
You violated?
Hey, my phone, Bree.
Oh, shit.
He's hit the church ankle sight.
No.
He got the church socks.
He's not church socks at all.
He got the church socks.
Like ankle socks, me.
Leave my man alone.
Flip got to get it off on somebody.
No, that's what it is.
I get at this nigga, free.
No, no, sorry.
I get at this nigga.
No, no, no.
Have you ever thought about getting at the top of it?
Yo, no, shit.
Order and the court.
No, that's what you got here.
brought here for, nigger?
We all here to talk.
You got brought here for
to talk to you
run your fucking mouth
so he can look at you.
That's what the podcast is, bro.
We talk.
Nick, there's too many people talking.
Mark and Flip.
No, no, I'm not trying to fry me out.
No, I'm not front here.
There's too many people talking.
I'm not going to talk over a nigga that's...
No, I'm not going to talk over you, bro.
That's fair.
All right, so we'll all be quiet.
What topic do you want to talk about?
Nothing.
I want to talk about you.
Okay.
No, no, no, no.
Get back to Joe.
Hey.
All right, somebody has to listen to me.
I'm going to listen.
Go ahead.
Let's get back to the socks.
I got to keep the show on track.
Look at this nigger's socks, yo.
Don't get distracted.
Let me see these shit.
Come on.
Freeze.
That's five.
It quarks.
Hey, look at this nigga's legs.
How many times you fell off the bike, nigga?
You're just trying to reach it for anything.
Nick is just thirsty over there.
Come on.
Get something.
At least be funny, though.
Is she's not here.
That's normally the guy
But make them good, though
Nah, nigga, fuck you
I'm corny now
So electronic arts, EA
Has sold
Oh, God damn
Oh, fuck
Ice, break it down
Fuck
Fuck!
He did it again
Shit
Um
He got it
No, because this time
I'm prepared for him today
I don't know the story
He wrote on the boy
I don't know the story
I'm still confused
Over your last Saudi Arabia story
Oh
I got no position on this
I don't know the story
I'm here fired
is what they did.
55.
So Bill Byrne, I mean, like,
Joe.
That's the day went to do research.
That's part of what they said.
Leap it out.
Yo, please.
Joe.
But yes, back to EA.
EA was sold to Jared Kushner.
They got comedy and games.
No, they got everything, bro.
They come up for some other shit, too.
They come in for a lot.
For $55 billion.
They got $55 billion.
They got a football league thing they're doing.
Can you stop coming in here lying, though, at least?
Like, you hear what a freeze is saying?
We're $55 billion.
$55 billion?
Yeah, what would a B?
Mm-hmm.
What about it?
Anything about it.
You would start a whole news channel over there.
No.
If they came, if they came, what are the fucking wrong with him?
Are you saying that if somebody gave me $55 billion I would take it?
Is that all you're saying?
Yes, sure.
Okay.
You got to be.
No, to go against your beliefs.
Oh.
It would depend on what the belief was.
Your beliefs.
You.
No, I mean, which of my beliefs?
Religious.
For example.
It was not religious.
Last part, you said the niggas was cutting Americans' ears off, so we shouldn't go do comedy.
And I don't...
It's not American ears.
I'm worried about, but in terms of Saudi Arabia, yes, I would not take money from the Saudi Arabian government.
I wouldn't.
No matter how big the check was.
Okay.
I'm not saying in a blanket statement, because we have a gotcha culture where...
I'm not saying that there's no belief in the world I have that I would not...
that I would not take a step back on
because it would depend on how intense I believe it.
For example, I believe in free speech.
I don't think books should be banned from bookstores.
I own a bookstore.
If you gave me $50 billion fucking dollars
to ban a book, yeah, I would ban the book.
Because I could make an ethical argument
that the $50 billion in what I could do with that,
which redistributed, not keep it, would be far more...
Keep a little bit.
I mean, I would keep less than a billion.
Look how much it would be.
cost to not being a book.
It's just, I'm just using it.
I'm just using, I'm just using it.
But you say, do we keep less than a billion?
Yeah, I don't believe in billionaires.
We're not going to go here again.
Oh, I forgot.
I forgot.
Right.
And if I don't say that, then on the, he said,
he don't believe in billionaires, but he would keep the, it's like, everything
is a gotcha, right?
My point is, I am not perfect.
I am not suggesting that I don't have things that I fall short on.
In that case, in the case I just gave, I don't even think that's falling short.
I think I have a, I think there's a bigger principle at play.
But sometimes, I'm sure if you ask me enough questions, you'll find
contradictions. We all got contradictions. I don't claim not to. What I'm saying, though,
is that's a glaring one for me. And when it came to Saudi Arabia last week, for me, the issue
was, it wasn't when Mona said when she's hungry, she would, you know what I mean? She might
take the check for 50 or 100 or 200, right? For me, some of these people are worth half a billion
dollars. You don't need the check. You know what I mean? And I know, you let everybody's pocket.
Yeah, sometimes you can be. If someone is publicly worth a half a billion dollars, I don't
thing is asking them a lot to say,
don't take this million from a government
that is literally killing people.
I agree with you. That's all I'm saying.
I don't have no back and forth about that.
Anyway, what happened with EA sports?
Yeah, that's all we were saying.
Yeah, shut up, Mark.
Nick, you started it!
Just to catch you in contradictions, but
if you were going to be all...
He owned them. He'll all mature about it.
Yeah, he smoked it.
You got October.
Yeah, I'm with you.
EA sold to Jared Kushner
and Saudi Arabian group for 55.
billion dollars which affects everything from
your video games
your matting
um fucking
why does it affect it
why do you feel it affects it well
it's just now private company so its own
ownership has changed hands
so it is it is affected they could decide
to do whatever with it do we care
if you're a gamer you do
I don't think it's going to affect gaming at all though but
I get your point it could
it could yeah that's all it just could
yeah hopefully it doesn't I hope it don't
I mean I still play matting
me too
I do a little 2K
a little mad
and all that stuff
you know what I mean
I'm in terms
of video games
I'm starting
to get into it more
I'm looking at
you taking some time
off for yourself
yeah
it's like one hour a week
but
I bought the PlayStation
to play against you
that's up
how do we
how do we feel
about these
American bread
companies
like
WWE
EA sports
like companies
who are kind of
bred
and somewhat
American culture
feeling comfortable
selling
to these foreign
government
I think
I think it's just the next step.
Yeah.
Because just like a home,
just like a local company,
then they go national.
Now to people,
national ain't the ceiling no more.
Now we want to go global.
Unfortunately,
yeah.
And the money ain't here.
Yeah.
But like at any point,
does the,
does the coach's side of what we provided
get diluted once we sell over?
Absolutely.
That's kind of what.
Yeah.
The second you start to selling it off,
that's the coach is gone.
But a lot of people don't give a fuck about the coaches.
I don't know if I agree with that.
Oh, shit.
Because what, if I,
if I agree with that.
I started EA Sports and someone paid me $55 billion to sell said property.
I might create some new culturally dope shit with the $55 billion that I had.
Yeah, but the equity that's in EA sports.
Let them drain it if they will.
That being slapped on.
I'm just saying that culture itself, that's a whole thing.
There's Matin culture we speak about.
There's Sims culture that we speak about.
I get it.
That is still attached to somewhere else.
You could start something new.
You got to start from scratch.
Not saying you won't achieve it.
A little easy to do.
55 in the pocket. Of course. Of course. Not saying you won't be successful in starting
something new, but what you built here is going there. And now
it's, they could put their flavor in it and do whatever they want to do with it. And you just
stuck on the outside like, damn. That's my baby. You always build another one, especially
with more. I don't know. People say that. People say that. That shit ain't easy.
Yeah. Famous Amos couldn't build up another cookie shit, man. Well, they took the name.
He couldn't use Amis. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. And he did come
up with another cookie. He had another cookie. Yeah. But it
ain't he went on shark tank and all that for it it didn't hit that's for different reasons he
could no longer use his own name yeah he sold he sold he sold the rights to his name but what y'all
talking about happens in business all the time the creator of venmo sales go creates cash app the
creator of the internet look at twitter this happens too many times for us to debate it and the people
that leave certain companies go try to start over somewhere else and it don't always get to what
you're known for it don't get to that level well that's what separates the week from the strong but
Whether I succeed or fail, 55Bs of help.
You damn right.
You're damn right.
Jack did well.
Yeah.
Jack did super well.
Yeah.
A few times.
I was about to say he's still doing well.
There's a big difference from jumping from company to company within the U.S. territory and all that in comparison.
How much money you need to sell me a Patreon?
How much money I need to sell you my Patreon?
Yeah.
As it stands right now.
No more growth.
You're being funny, right?
No.
That's your shit.
built it up. It's strong. I'm looking
at future projections. I'm just using
this as an example, but...
Am I still involved with the creative process
and all? For the next five years. You're going to run it
for the next five years.
I want to answer this on a serious way.
All right, so come back to me later. Yeah. Come back to me.
Let me catch you a question on that, too. Is there anybody you wouldn't sell it to
also?
If the numbers were right.
Charlie Kirk, before he passes away, says, I want your Patreon.
You're right. No, there are certain people I wouldn't sell
it to. Am I one of them?
Yes.
No.
No, I will sell it to you.
Okay.
You do a really good job with it.
Oh, I would.
I'd have all kinds of things that about you.
That nigga would call up that...
Unpublished?
You'd call up that African couple.
Oh, man.
Got another place to dance.
I got another place for me to dance.
I got another place for us.
Can y'all dance outside?
I watched them.
I watched them.
They were talking to some other people, too.
The lady on there, she was talking to another couple.
Yes, shit.
I went to a night school, nigga.
Oh, you're talking about aspiral.
Okay, you're talking about my week
that weekend show that April Silver does
just because they dark skin don't make them African.
She's from Brooklyn.
She said, no.
I'm not, that's not me.
No, the people I'm talking about
we're doing African dances.
Yeah, he's just talking about any dark skin
person who's just talking about.
Well, that's that.
Mark, cultural.
I will say this.
Cultural what?
Hey, yo, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all,
are you crazy?
You're not FBA.
You're not FBA.
No, you're not FBA.
Shout out of the FBA.
You and I, but hold on, listen.
Wait, how the fuck I get in this shit.
You know, what the fuck?
He got no else to pick on this all.
Oh, here I get used to that.
Listen, shut.
My view, shout to FBI.
I fuck with FBI.
You said FBI?
No, Cointel, bro.
No, you heard him, Mark.
He infiltrated.
Shout out to FBI.
I fuck with him.
But what I'm saying is that I don't think any Dawson person is African.
That's not what I'm talking about.
All right?
That's a great input.
Thanks.
I didn't even know.
You're still on that shit.
Yeah, I didn't move past it.
That's peace.
Hey, Mark, you're playing with me, bro?
Mark, you need to take naps.
I think you're doing great today.
you're playing playing i don't want any problems
i love you flip see my history
are you playing i don't want the problem with you
same um
a little look yeah
mark i was just saying too i
you need to take naps
gotta get some rest mark
yo i'm directing the show
oh you oh my bad
we forgot
yeah you're okay
you think it's wise
you think it's wise what we're doing
no I was saying
Because I watched the last night school.
Mark, you work a lot.
I know we keep saying that.
But just, brother to, you know, everybody,
I was watching and I literally saw your eyes at a certain point.
Like, you could have possibly fell asleep during your shit.
Pause for looking at the nigger's eyes.
But keep going to, I feel you.
I watch.
I support.
I appreciate that.
I appreciate that.
I want to, you need to take some.
Now, I'm reconfiguring my whole thing.
So, you know, starting probably next.
week. I just got to get some ducks in a row.
I'm going to start the Patreon.
And it's going to live
because I have to go live.
Yeah, we're playing around. Are you doing live on the Patreon?
We'll do a little bit of live, but
what I'm saying is I'm going to do some more pre-recorded so I don't have to be
up at 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock at night.
Got you. Broadcasting every night because it's
becoming taxing, especially after the 14-hour days
here. That's true.
I'm blaming my pen, no. Don't blame
up here, me. Now, you're right? How do you decide
when to jump on the side?
Nick, I'm never on your side now. He's always on my
I'm not on your side.
Read the comments.
I'm never on your side,
Nicky, I don't fuck with you.
I don't fuck with you.
I'm just trying to figure out.
I don't fuck with you.
I don't fuck with you or that nigga now.
As soon as he starts,
I fucked with him earlier,
but now I'm on his ass.
I don't fuck what you either.
You fuck with him only though, right?
I fuck with him only, yes.
All right.
All right, good.
That's dope.
We all do.
We love you.
Good.
You to see.
Got you.
I have two segments
that y'all won't necessarily
give a fuck about here.
One, I just want to say my heart goes out to Mets fans.
Fuck me.
Fats fans.
What happened?
So, the Mets missed the playoffs.
Do you know how terrible they are?
I'm sorry, I want to step on your thing.
I love it.
But they're not terrible.
They have no pitching.
The Mets are not terrible at all.
I disagree.
Do you follow baseball?
Very closely.
Probably more closely than you.
You don't follow baseball more closely.
Okay.
Did you know that the Mets are 0 in 70 this season when trailing in the eighth inning?
Okay.
That's an unprecedented number.
That means that at the end, they have never had a comeback.
It speaks to, they have an excellent closers, I'm sure you know.
But the problem is they never get to that point.
You know what I mean?
Because they're struggling mid-ed-ed-al-ending.
Signing Soto was great.
They packed up their offense.
They had some injuries at pitcher, but at the core,
the Mets don't have a pitching staff that match their offense.
That's all I'm saying.
I know, but you're talking about what happened.
I'm saying there's not a MET fan anywhere in New York City that didn't think they were due
for a deep playoff run this year, especially after what happened last year.
I think that's fair.
But they should have been.
This is a very MET ending.
Yes.
Even for MET fans, I'm a Yankee fan.
So you know something bad happened if my heart is going out to y'all.
That's how I'm shocked you said it.
The Mets have the second highest payroll in baseball.
The Nets, the Nets, the Mets had career years from everybody they wanted to have a career year from.
They had a great offseason last year.
The Mets fans were looking at Yankees, like Yankee fans, like, hey, we got y'all.
Get the fuck out of here.
You're all a little brother now.
So what happened?
For them to not be able to go, they needed to win two out of three.
Okay.
Either two weeks ago or a week ago.
Okay.
And they went to Miami
I mean they went to Florida
Where the Marlins are trash
I think the week before that was the nationals
The National League is really really really really bad
And they lost two out of three each time
Yep
They only needed to win two out of three
And they failed both times
Two weeks ago they had an 84% chance
Of making the playoffs
To your point they only had to win
To go from an 83% chance two weeks out
To missing the playoffs
It's a stunning, you're right
It's a very Mets collapse
The Reds are in the playoffs.
Yo, stop, stop, stop disrespecting the Yankees.
This is another curse that we've bestowed upon the Mets like we did with the Red Sox.
That's all this is, you know.
Soto left.
Well, y'all should use some of that energy for yourself.
Cool.
And now they curse.
At some point, the Yankees are struggling.
At some point, the Yankees are going to figure it out.
They always do.
Even if you get four, five, six years of, this is that.
Yeah, I agree.
If you spend enough money, this is my thing about baseball, you know,
unlike other sports like basketball you can spend the money but you just payroll I mean there's a salary caps
like elite cities if they pay it spend enough money will be okay to met's a kind of the exception
sometimes but with Anaheim with los angeles with philly the marlins have the lowest payroll
payroll in baseball yeah basically they should not have lost to the marlins is what you're saying
no I don't follow two out of three two out of three is rough okay but again even at the beginning
of this season and I think I tweet this but I don't know I'm sure they'll tell me if I didn't but
I know I've said it a lot
I was always worried about the Mets pitching staff
I never thought that they had the depth in pitch
They went through I believe 45
pitchers
See the 45 or 46
pitchers this year
That is an unprecedented number
That's crazy
Again, some of that is injury
Some of that is bad luck
Just regular
But to go through 45 pitchers in one season
It's the curse
Maybe y'all should stop cursing people
The jail you prepare for me
The one you're going to rot in
You know what I'm saying? Maybe yon nays need to stop
cursing people and focus on the Yankees right now
And by the way, it looks like the, I mean, the Phillies, I think, are the strongest team left.
The Brewers are also very strong.
The Dodgers are always the Dodgers.
My worry is that if anything in the last, since the advent of the wild card, the team that has the best record isn't necessarily the hottest team going in.
The Phillies had the best record in baseball last year were second best, but the Mets mopped them coming in because the Mets were on a tear.
You know, we've seen that with Houston.
We've seen that, you know what I'm saying?
We've seen that several times.
the team that's hot is one
it makes until this year
even though the Phillies
I say that because I was scared
to the Mets going out
if the Mets snuck in
I was terrified of the Mets
because they also have been kicking
our ass as Phillies
even in the midst of their struggles
baseball to me is not always
about the best record
it's more like the football
at least when I used to watch it
which is sometimes
that wild tar car team that's hot
is more dangerous than the team
that gets the buy
but hasn't won that hasn't won
we saw that with the Eagles
a few years ago
when they won 12 games
got the ass kicked in the first round
like so baseball is wild open
right now, I'm still thinking the Phillies
are going to win the National League.
See, all right, enough.
You're right, that's crazy talk.
You're doing great.
The number two T, we have the second best
record in all of baseball.
It's not crazy to think that we could win.
The Brewers have the best.
So again, how to team will win?
We'll see.
We'll see.
The Mets season freeze.
There's 162 games in baseball.
I'm freestyle.
Yes, you're right.
Let's say they went.
Let's say they won 30 or 50.
Then they lost 17 or 20.
Then they won 10 of 17.
Then they lost 17th.
Like, that's what I'm saying about this season.
It's an epic collapse.
Got it.
It was an epic collapse.
It was like when...
Up and...
So where I understand it, it's just like a couple years ago
when my team, the Steelers, was like, 11 and 1 or 11 and 2
and bombed the entire rest of the...
Similar, but imagine that happening six times in a row,
because we're talking about 1602 games.
Yeah.
Imagine that happened six times in a row.
And then you catch another wave again and you look like the best team
and then you look like the worst team.
And then that like...
Got it.
Well, is that based off of, what do you say, like injuries and just...
It's partly injuries starting pitching.
Some of it is just the juju, right?
Again, last year the Mets were to come back kids.
You could go into the seventh, eighth, and they were down five sometime going into
the eighth and will win.
They didn't win one game.
That's crazy.
That's zero and 70 staff.
I believe the number is 0 and 70.
It was 0 and 68, and I believe the...
The curse of the Soto, man.
To not win extra inning games?
No, he had a hell of a year.
Don't do that.
No, I'm not saying curse on him.
He's great.
He's great.
I'm just saying when the Yankees lose that type of player.
We were talking about that if Joe wasn't here that day.
We were talking about Soto.
And again, I was like, if I'm Soto, I'd have stayed on the Yankees.
He too.
But, good job, Soto.
And if there was ever a year where the Yankees should have made the playoffs, it was this year.
Yeah.
So now you have the Yankees in
Had the Red Sox last night
And the Mets out, New York is in a
Yeah, I get it
And New York is lit when all teams make it
That's true, yeah
Like when both teams making New York
It's a different place
So my heart goes out to you Mets fans
It's bad
It's bad
It's bad
And what was my last one
That you guys don't give a fuck about
Okay
It's my fashion segment
Around a bunch of fucking
Oh yeah
Unfashionable nigginsins
fashionable niggins.
Oh, for sure.
Telfar is coming out with a Timberlin.
I got the email.
Did you see it?
Yeah, I got the email yesterday.
I did want to know everyone's thoughts on this.
I'll show you.
Tellfar is the black brand that fucking Beyonce blew up
and everyone who was running around here with the bag.
Telfar, Telfar, they're putting out three timblins.
One is the super, super high draped down.
They're all, two of them are draped downs.
Super high, thigh-high draped down.
The second one, I think.
I think for $3.50 is up to the knee, big draped down.
And the last one is like a sandal.
Erickson, I'll send you a picture so we can maybe put it on the screen.
But I know Louie and Timberlin had their collab, mixed reviews.
This Telfar shit, that second one, I think, is going to go.
Which one, the mid one?
Yeah.
The mid one is the one.
I do think that that's going to go.
But for Timbalin fans, right, who there's never been a Timberlin for more.
was not at Timberman right now for more than
$250, $240.
Timbalin fans getting
adjusted to these new prices from the
collabs. I know the Louis Boot was
$1,500, $2,000.
This is more affordable,
different brand, but one, what do y'all feel
about a lifelong brand like Timberlin
now doing these collabs like Kith does?
One and two, how do y'all feel about it
as Timberland wears?
I'll say this. I think
I think it's great for the company.
I think the collabs are great.
They inject energy, new designs.
I think generation of people will love it.
As a nigga from the 90s that wore Tims,
and we didn't even let them wear
Timbs that didn't have leather.
The other soul.
Yeah, we call it.
Yeah, if you're walking around butt-necked as we were kind of,
I will never wear anything but traditional.
I just never would.
Oh, shit.
But I ain't mad at people who do.
I'm just an old man at this point.
Got it.
But this is a whole different, I don't look at this quite the same way.
Yeah, this is like a different design.
And I think this shit going to work.
Well, it's a collaboration.
Yeah, but I'm saying
It's different from
A Timberlin
Yeah, it's a different shoe
Yeah, it's a different shoe
Would you wear that?
Not that one, but I would wear some other
Timberlin
Would you wear the Louie Timberlin?
Okay, got it got to go
Well, there's a couple different ones, I think
I like the ones that was just regular
Newbuck's
Them Bronx hole's going to tear that tall
Timberlin boot up
That mid one is, I don't know what y'all
They're going to tear that boot
You're going to see that boot.
You're going to see that mid one.
The mid one is fine.
But that tall one
in particular,
you will see a lot of
for sure.
All right,
I just wanted y'all
quick opinion on that one.
I know that we're not a fashion show,
but they're going to put the boot with the bag.
Trust me.
Peek my interest.
You're going to wear it?
You're going to get it?
I would get the mid one.
He's going to get the tall one.
And I got both for the Louis,
the Louis Timberlin ones,
the laces and no lace.
I ain't wore either one of them yet.
You kind of get them,
you kind of get them because you can't get it.
If you don't get it,
you can't get it.
They're not going to settle it again.
then you then you fucked so and i got mine from louis not the secondary market where that
shit went absolutely crazy about i said they can ready eat that's what do it secondary market
go timblin though i guess i bring this up to say i'm a fan of like like staple brands like
lifelong brand like lego you're familiar with the lego story yeah yeah for sure like they do all the
clabs yeah yeah about how the collabs kind of brought their business back after they were in the tank
I just saw the SGA Chuck, because I'm sure this is hard.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, they all fire.
They all fire.
I'm in the Anthony Edwards commercial, so I'm going to slow down on that.
Let me say.
Let me say.
I mean, that was just cool.
If that's what you're into, you know, I should be.
Yeah, yeah, that was cool.
Good show today, gentlemen.
For sure.
Good show today.
Shout to our brother, it's here with us in spirit.
For sure.
I know, Mark, you got to get out of here, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And freedom.
Traffic and freedom.
Yep.
tracking
Yo
It's crazy
Amani, if you have a
Potter of the month's speech
You want to get off
Before Mark leaves
So you can hear
And be salty in the car
No, you should just go watch
The clip that I left
I watched the video you made
Okay, that's it
She watches everything, bro
Yeah, I feel like that's all
That was need to be said
But you know, just good luck
Today's the first
So moving into this day
Let's keep it together
Part of the month Eve
Let's see if you can do three in a row
It's a feat
You know, hey, we'll see
It's never been done before
Shut up, bark
If I get ass
Yeah, man
Nickas still did Irish
Nice out, Mark
Nick's still did the Irish
All right
Save travels, bro
Let you all
Get they safe
Oh my God
What else needs our attention?
You guys are killing it
You guys ask
I wanted
Maybe we can do it on Patreon
I'm curious to hear
Conspiracy theory
About one battle after another
I saw the movie this weekend
It was one of the best movies
I've seen, to me, it was in the same ballpark as Foxy Brown Pulp Fiction.
Like, whereas I said the Zoe Cravitz movie that came out earlier was kind of in that
genre but didn't knock it out the park.
They absolutely smoked this movie.
The acting, the acting, the cinematography in particular, the, the chase scene on the
desert highway was absolutely incredible.
I saw yesterday, to me, my favorite movie the year.
It's my favorite movie the past 10 years easily.
Yeah, I'm going to just keep it.
know people are so big on sinners this year so cool i love centers but this is a different
this is this is different this was fire everyone acted they ass off it's rare that you can get a
movie that is political and funny and not only is it political and funny it's political and funny if
you are right leaning or left leaning because it shows the left being kind of goofy and uh extremist
and it shows the right being the right i love the mix of the casting too yeah the casting was great
Jason was great.
Leo bodied it.
Benicio del Toro
bodied it.
Of course, Tiana
bodyed out when she was
in there a little bit longer
but it is what it is.
The daughter,
Chase Infinity,
I believe her name is,
the actress's name.
She bodied it.
Absolutely great.
It's great to see
original film again
and to see it executed this.
Regina Hall, right?
Regina Hall is underrated
when it comes to
her skills on the screen.
I know a lot of people
lean into when she does
a more funnier shit
and more playful shit,
but she can act
the ass off.
The music.
It was great.
I think the guitarist from Radiohead did that.
He did a bunch of other movies as well.
The music, original music and the songs that they chose to use.
I don't know if the spoiler, but American Girl, when it did happen, phenomenal.
Absolutely body that movie.
Absolutely.
But 10 out of 10, 12 out of 10.
Go see it immediately.
Some people have this as a top three, top four Leo performance.
It might be the.
I won't say, it's high, though.
It's high, but I wouldn't give it.
Damn, you said it's like that.
I'm just telling you.
But yeah, some people are saying they're holding it in pretty high regard.
It's, you think that's not, you don't think that's recency bias.
No.
It's a really good movie.
It was too good of a movie for me to only focus on him.
I'd probably have to watch it again.
You know, it's funny.
I feel like you, I feel like you undersold it a little bit.
Because you did say it was dope.
You said you had a great time.
Which in itself is, it's rare for Joe Button positive movie review.
So that alone should mean.
When I walked out of there like, holy, this was.
I was a little fucked up when I walked out of there
And not so much of conspiracy
But I guess it hits so close to home
We joke up here about Mark being a freedom fighter
And yada yada yada y'all
And they focused on freedom fighters
Yeah
But they also focused on
Some of the other groups
Yeah
And
I think what also the timing of it now
I don't want to blow
That Sean Penn shit at the end
Yeah it was crazy
Yo
Yeah
Deep
I can't talk about it
Yeah no doubt
No spoilers
It's deep. It's deep. Go see the movie. Go check it out.
You should absolutely go see the movie.
It'll fight with weapons and sinners for movie to year.
You ever seen a...
I loved weapons and sinners and this smoked them to me.
In terms of be a movie.
This movie was absolutely incredible.
Yeah, weapons is dope, but this, I wouldn't even put this in the same conversation.
I wouldn't even put that in the same conversation.
This was a deep movie.
All right.
Listen, check it out if you haven't seen it.
What?
No, I want to ask.
Have you ever sat your kid down and...
forced them to watch like a certain movie, like a real
important movie that you feel like they
needed to watch?
No.
Okay.
You could stop that after. Have you ever sat your kid
there?
Yep.
I've done it with music.
And I haven't had to, but I've had
the important music talks. Like, hey,
do you know Ice Cube? Do you know NWA? Do you know
Cybers Hill? Do you know? I didn't do the movie
test, all music.
I find that when you sit someone down and make them watch a movie
that they didn't have interest in the beginning
the beginning.
It never fucking works.
Nobody gets pissed off of me.
Yeah, word.
They fall asleep.
I'm not mad except I'm going to watch it.
I was watching, I was watching an old school movie, well not old school, but older movie,
last American virgin.
And that to me, that movie, every father should sit his son down to watch that movie.
I've never seen that movie.
I've never heard of it.
Last American Virgin.
I never heard that movie.
It's.
It's.
It's.
It's not you.
The last American nonversion
As far as that conversation of
Nice guys finish and last
It's the epitome of that as a film
So as I was watching
I was like this might be an important movie
To show your son
The balance between being a good guy
And not being the push-old
And you couldn't relate to that though
You can't relate to that?
You can't relate to that
I can't
I can't
You don't finish last night
See? You finished from it.
See, you playing.
I was saying that literally just because I was thinking
for everybody with kids,
have you ever had that moment where you watch the movie
and you feel like it's something that you needed them to watch
to get a life experience from.
Kids and I was doing that with the young bitch.
Bitch and why Herka Rain.
Yeah.
Herbara is one of those.
Talking about the kids.
Kid, kids.
Yeah, not the kids.
Bad.
That's it.
That's a whole movie.
Making your girl watch some shit is,
it's only going to be you
with the egg on your face.
Yeah, yeah.
She's going to get up,
go to the kitchen
and not ask you to pause it.
Word.
She ain't going to ask you to pause it.
Go to the bathroom.
I can still hear it from here.
You're missing something important.
Or you're going to ask you a million and one question.
You just watch the movie.
Yo, Task?
I didn't see this week.
I didn't see this week.
I haven't watched that show yet.
No comment.
I just see why you got upset
with Black Rabbit, too.
Black Rabbit is fired.
I just started.
I haven't seen that either.
Episode two or three, I'm like, I started to get upset.
I'm gonna finish watch it, though.
You watch TV?
Yeah.
Black Rabbit is annoying.
It's great with great actors, but it's annoying.
Yeah.
It shouldn't be talked about with Tats.
What you said?
Yeah, Tats.
I haven't seen this week, but it's been movie.
You don't take me at somebody that got enough time to say I'm watching TV?
I'm home all the time and I'm watching TV.
Oh, that's beautiful.
All right.
Shout out to your household.
Make some noise to flip's household, y'all.
That's true.
No, no, no, no, no, I'm clap for my household.
I don't talk about you.
Don't clap for my house.
You do talk in my mind.
I got checked.
I never talked about truth again.
Thank God.
Yeah, because I respect my man.
Thank God.
I want to come do some checking.
Yeah.
Where in my house?
You're invited.
Come through.
Oh, bad.
Yeah.
You watch an SVU?
Excuse me.
Are you watching SVU?
No, you fuck with SVU.
Like, they killed off.
Homeboy Dad.
Yeah.
Who?
Captain, Captain Crager.
Captain Crager.
Which was that?
The bowhead captain.
white boy to do
he died for something
they didn't say
well how he passed
but you just
Contractor free negotiation
That's what I said
He died of contract
When they killed him
And didn't show
How he died
Didn't say how he died
The new season started
With them at the funeral
Like it's just a picture
Of him on the shit
They'll explain it later
Maybe
I don't think so
Hopefully so
But I think they're trying to treat
Like he just died
From natural causes
They did the same thing
With fucking
Stapler when he died
And then he came back
Seasons later
I mean I died
But you didn't know
what happened
And, like, law and order is pretty good
with closing the chapter to a story
and reoccurring characters.
And he was so important, I was kind of like,
how you just start the shit?
What? What?
Yeah.
It's so important for them to not explain that.
They probably will.
They get around.
But I did see a little rest in peace floating around.
Yeah, that shit fucked everybody up.
You cut that show and it's like, they walked in
and it's the funeral on the, like, the board.
It's just his face on that shit.
I don't watch Law & Order as it air.
Oh, okay, got it.
Yeah, Law & Order.
He hit the law and he hit the,
on that, just see what's going on.
I think we covered everything that I
wanted to cover. If you guys have
something that's really important near and dear to your
hearts and homes, I think we did it.
I did see, I did
finally see him, the movie.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, yeah.
I was completely pissed off.
I was mad at myself. Like, why the fuck did I even?
I told myself I wasn't going to watch the shit, but I'm like,
all right, let me, it's Marlon. I fuck with Marlon. Let me give it a shot.
Marlon did good. He did. He did.
Marlin did good in it.
I enjoyed him in it.
I'm done.
I'm done.
It was done with Jordan Pell movies.
And again, it's not a George Pell movie.
It's Jolent Pell produced.
We don't care.
Produce.
I don't care.
If I see a monkey Paul and see that little shit, you're not watching any of it.
I'm good.
Sorry, bro.
They lean too much in, like, surrealism and movies and all that other shit.
Like, it's just, it's too much.
It's you making shit more complicated than what the fuck.
What is the purpose of this film?
What are you trying to get across?
You don't have to hide it in.
And I understood what they?
to what they was trying to say.
I got it to contract with the...
It just wasn't executed right to me.
I'm not the...
And the natives coming back in...
Yeah.
But I'm cool.
Salute de Marlon, though.
He did this thing.
Yeah, he did.
Good.
I'm never watching it.
Hey, there we go.
Never watch it, bro.
Skip it.
Come on.
Play that bone thugs, yo.
Skip it.
There you have it.
Just skip that one.
Let's see.
You got to trust you.
One battle after.
No, no.
If I don't go tomorrow, I'll go Thursday.
sure totally watch that movie
as well
oh we go
I know what that is
we got to grow your hair back
E
wake up
it's the person
in love
to get on
yeah
yeah
so check to
wake up
this way
to wake up this way
to wake up
you know
yeah
it's fucking October
already man
it's Halloween time
Delma season
and Libra season
Libra game
Oh, my God.
That almost season lighten up.
You see them.
Libragett.
At least one.
Yo, I'll be horny later.
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As if it's all we have.
Hey.
What's y'all on this week?
Anything interesting?
Nope.
Anything fun?
Anything new?
Anything exciting?
Never that.
Hey.
Oh, wash, niggas.
I'm a catch the movie.
I'm hitting a circus this weekend.
that's it
the circus
yeah
universe old
that's the one
it's never
they still got that circus
yep
they don't show animals
anymore though
right freeze
no it's performances
that's not a circus
niggas
universe soul is
leave
a little
a circus
no animals
ice is the man
yo
ice is so on brand
ice found
the circus
ole
I will go
the tickets
no animals
just the performers
and we go
You're going to go to your girl, your kids, the kids?
The family?
It's for the kids.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Okay, so we can't clown somebody.
It's for the kids.
The kids is going.
But I used to be liking the kid stuff too much.
That's my beef with him.
No, I like the kids.
I like watching them at the kids stuff.
They enjoy that shit.
That shit is a good feeling.
So I enjoy it.
They still do the tightrope rope shit up there for you.
Yeah.
All of that.
You got to be careful fucking with Freeze, too, man.
Me and me and Freeze did a little fucking,
let me turn this down, play a little music bed.
Me and Free.
You used it a little play date for the kids and shit to the trampoline house.
You can't, you can't do that with freeze.
Because he'll jump in.
No, because you'll be in your phone chilling, ignoring your kid being a bad dad.
And freeze a jump up, run, go save his daughter from turmoil.
So now you've got to get up and save your kid from the same turmoil.
It's like, no, let him do it.
I'm getting out of it.
No, my kid, I almost wanted to fight 11 of those kids.
Yeah, trampoline park is different.
It's 11 of those kids.
If you got kids, don't do it.
Trampoline Park, it's not worth it.
I'm going to give y'all some of it.
If you got young kids, for real, for real,
trampoline park, go early.
Go 10, 11 o'clock.
When somebody do the rottie, Roddy Piper,
leg drop on your kid's neck,
you're going to feel away.
Once it's about three, four,
and the older kids get there, time to go.
Those are spaces where kids get to learn how to interact,
though, with strangers.
And I'm going to learn how to interact too.
But stranger kids.
That was even creepy how you said that.
But stranger kids.
Learn how to interact with other kids.
You little fucking freak
They can do that in school, my nigga
Not jumping and landing on my kid
Yeah
Yo, y'all hold it down out here, man
Y'all have a good week
Same time, same place this weekend
Keep us in your prayers
Lord knows we need to be there
Yada yada yada yada
Last but certainly not least
The baddies are insecure
The Stagnet women want to travel
And the close-minded women
Want you to teach them things
Grab you with Tylenol you might need it
Until next time man
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Skipping that
Yeah
I'm good
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