The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 870 | "Hour 2"

Episode Date: October 18, 2025

 The latest broadcast from the JBP starts with two quick conversations on being misread (22:29) and whether or not you judge the way people make their money (24:18). Former ABC News personalities Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes announced their engagement (32:40), Brian McKnight wins $8.8 million lawsuit (46:05), and Joe responds to the Native Land Podcast following their latest podcast title as well as their thoughts on Marc Lamont Hill & QueenzFlip (1:08:14). The room then shares their thoughts on the use of AI with dead icons (1:40:00), Momma Dee reveals she brought strippers to Lil Scrappy’s 14th birthday party (1:46:50), and Snoop Dogg has a new animated series (1:56:04). Also, Marc asks the room how often they shower (2:08:36), the JBP speculates what GoPro could improve on as their value has gone down 98% (2:29:00), new music (2:37:10), a special guest in studio (3:16:35), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden 

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Enjoy the show. No, they're not. They are. We go through this every other eight months. They based the color, the price is based on the color. The fact that they say Cactus Jack changes the price too. Everybody, everybody's stop. Ones is where we're getting confused.

You're saying, those are the cheap Travis Scots. Yes. We are saying those are not cheap sneakers. That's true. It's the cheap Ferrari. You got that shit on. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You got that shit on right now.

I don't. You do. You do got that shit on, though. It was not with you. It's essentials. You got that shit on. Essentials with Travis's and what's that? You got the brightlin on what you're on today?

The roly or the brightlin or the G-Shall. What you got? No, that ain't the G-Shop. Stop hot on your hand, bro. What you got? It's so on already. Some Instagram ads almost got me. I almost bought 20 Cassio G-shocks.

I'm telling you. All the colors? Yeah, they got the gold. They got the calculator. They got all types of, for $49. $70. Instagram will be getting me. You too?

I buy some of Instagram every day. I just bought five kangos. Gingos the other day. I hate to tell you, all of them A6 and soccer knees, they came across by Instagram. Me too. And they make this shit so easy. Hit the button.

Now I understand, like, our grandparents and the older people with QVC and just after the soap operas, how they just sit and just be buying shit. The old I get, I'm going to buy something that you show me. And they know it too. Yeah. They know it. Nick, I got the good voice on Home Shopping Network, that lady. She'd be convincing than the motherfucker.

My mother'd be like, I bought it. I'm like, I still buy it now. Yeah, I'll send you the money, man. We talked about lasagna soup for two seconds. My timeline for the rest of the weekend was lasagna soup. And how was it? Oh, all right, hot take. Lazzania soup might be better than lasagna.

Oh, shit. Lazzania soup is pretty fucking good. I try to tell me about the soup. Lazzania soup is pretty good. I got to try it. She did it. She did it. Can she bring some in for everybody?

Yeah, no, I might still have some left. Okay. I might still have some left. She was supposed to remake it for me, but she's supposed to do it again with the little, and some broth. Maybe for Friendsgiving. Add some broth. Because the longer it's it, and the longer I keep taking.

Oh, the noodles going to suck about the broth. Yeah. What's in lasagna soup that's not in lasagna or vice versa? Like, what makes it differ other than this? The broth. It's just lasagna and broth? It's broth, but the broth is damn near like a root if you put in the right shit in it. So it changes the flavor a little bit.

And then she jazzyed up the ricotta. She put the basal and some other shit in there. So it's like, and then how it's seasoned. The season. Do you dollop the ricotta or is it in there? You dollop it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the fuck?

Ice cream school. After that you put it on top of the soup. It's not in the soup. Not in the soup. So yeah, you taste everything differently than you do lasagna. Gotcha. But I think it is a dollop is implying a liquid-esque nature. No, I'm just saying how people sit the palm of them.

Y'all are really fighting against his hyper-masculine accusation. Y'all must have heard Native land. Y'all like, and then you put a dollop of ricotta. Wait, is there a hyper-masculine conversation going on about us? There's always a hyper-masculine. How is Joe Budden hyper-masculine? That's what they said on it? They said this, yes.

They're getting carried away now. That's what the world says. That's not Native-Land-sa. About us. I didn't care. Yeah, that we have a lot of- Don't get ahead of nothing native land. I'm not going to talk of a native land.

What the fuck is native land? Yeah. Mark Friends did me and Iish about to shoot at. Oh, okay, but. Mark friends did me and Iish about to shoot at. Some podcasts that Mark going to be on in a couple weeks. But it's cool. I see.

That's an hour too. I ain't get hyper masculinity. I got. Well, no, not from that. Neanderthal. No, not from that. They're kind of type. Yeah, their first cousins.

Yeah. They mention names. No. Yes. I'm speaking in general terms. I didn't mean that show. What's their channel? I don't keep in the bulk of with you.

You don't want to go on there. But you mean I don't want to go on there. What do you mean by that? They were insulting you. You don't want to go looking at. They insults it? I think they're insulting you. Oh, that's cool.

A lot. What's their numbers like? I have no idea. Oh, I'll say. Figures. Shout out to them. We'll talk about it, I'm going to watch it. I'm going to watch it, and I'm going to respond.

Flip's going to be over there for an hour. You know, that boy. For the battery I don't think so I think he has a valid question No, he's that's another part of it But I would too It is. It is. It is.

Although it sounds like, y'all got something to get off your chest, I don't know. And nigga Mark, I've been on bullshit for at least, I've been waiting to get to work for at least three days. I'm not going to lie. You've been letting a lot of shit slide too? I've been home.

You've been letting a lot of shit slide? With a bad hip reading. Hmm. and watching and observing. I saw all the sub-tweets and I didn't really know what was going on, so. There's so much happening in this. There's a lot going on in the space.

I see. Like, I was so antsy. I was like, yo, I need another show. Like, I need another show during the week. You can't wait that long? Yeah. Just come in. The cycle has changed.

Yeah. The cycle has changed. The cycle has changed. Hey, y'all heard what you knicker said. Before, used to be ahead of it. Like, oh, shit, them thing's banging them two times. Bong, bong. Now, by Wednesday morning,

and I have a whole new thought process of things I'd like to say about things and people that I would never talk about up here. Oh, you want a side channel. Oh, yeah, the raw channel. Yeah, I want, I want the raw channel. Yeah, yeah.

Just shooting that niggas. Hey, yo, you know what? The gun range. Just like telling the truth. The gun range. Just like going and telling the truth about what I think. My real thoughts.

People got that. They're real. Because I don't do that here. Like, for all that they think about me, this is a polished, very. of myself. Yeah, I can be tested that, yeah. We know, we know.

And I don't be wanting, I mean, so. It was a little. Hour, too. 20 grip sandpaper before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen you. I just seen you and said, how long is my man going to let this go on for?

How long? You gave a warning. Somebody that I'm familiar with, you gave a warning. Hey, this ain't going to be happening too long. I was surprised. And I said, okay, you know, he said, He said another play. And, you know, you've been letting a lot of shit.

Because it could easily just, you let it slide. You could do that, too, right? They say that that's the mature thing to do. Yes, yes. But I told y'all I want to be mature by the time I'm ish age. And I ain't. And I ain't. You'll never be ish age.

It's the fun part. Right. That's your little loophole. Exactly. No, but when I get 48, I mean, when I get 48, 49. I think you said that about 45 and 46. He did. Yeah.

I turned 44. But I turned 44, I'm going to be chilling. I slept on 44 and 45, though. You didn't know, yeah. I slept on it. Another loophole, yeah. 44, 45 is still, you know what I mean? Kind of active a little bit.

What you think, 46 or 47? The mattress is different. I said 48 and 49. Because at 48 and 49, then when they say, yo dog, you're almost 50, they're right. I think if you just stick to I'm mature when I'm age's age, you're good. Yeah. Because then you all never be interesting.

Yeah, exactly. That's a great loophole. That's funny, sir. Yeah, I would never be the age at the same time. Yeah. It's a trick. Me and Ish didn't plan this outfit. I don't know what I don't believe you.

We spoke this morning, but we didn't talk about this. What about you and Flip? You're playing the, he got the Greens? No, I didn't. I didn't plan that with Flip either. Yeah. I didn't. We didn't matchy, matchy group.

That you said. Yeah. Dude cast. Shout to our sister, Mona. She is not with us. She will be with us next week. She had business to tend to. Shout out to her.

Shout out to her. Right, get it. Yeah. Yeah, you know. You know. You know the vibe. You got that money. Can't be a bad thing.

We miss you. Hour two. We do. We do. We do. But I just like when I hear that about, you know. I'm a co-host that's not here. I say that when you're not here, too.

I miss you. And I'll miss you when I miss you and I'm going to get to that. The only miss was when you ducked that. Straight. Yeah, that's funny. I don't want none of the money that Flip or Mark made from their fight that started here either. That's day shit. I'm sure you don't.

That's day shit. You made enough. On God. I think you made enough. You've done just fine, sir. Yo, what's the fourth? This thing I don't have to be fucking mine. You know, what's wrong with you, man?

I got a crazy, sir. I went blind. I don't want none of pennies y'all made. He just said, I see what you think is doing. You're saying this pennies. I ain't saying it. Who's saying it? That ain't me saying it.

That is not me saying. No sir rebod. That's pennies like those are cheap shoes, right? Exactly. Exactly. Now, I don't believe it to be pennies. But why are y'all laughing at me? I'm bugging.

They got that shit in every black excellent magazine, vibe with your Patreon. Exactly. I read a degree on. That's Mark. That's Mark Channel. Yeah, the alert came up. That's Mark people.

They made it a whole black excellence thing. The black ran and saw. Exactly. What the fuck? They lost telly people, yo. Yeah. Fuck with you last month. Not this month, though.

Yeah, this month, yeah. I'm glad you got them articles out last month. Yo, because you said that line when I said tricky word, you said, oh, it's just tricky to you. I feel bad about that because tricky, they made like a music remix to that. Oh, shit. Wait, what?

With the one D&C? Hold on. If they put you as DMC, please have the, you got it. You better not be dumb. You don't. You dumb emcy? Stop. It was just a little clip in that exchange.

It was a little music remix. Well, we have a problem with you being intellectual, talk. I don't know that. I know. You say a lot of tricky words That's tricky to you What's tricky to you

Y'all Yeah, y'all got a certain to you You're tricky words Hey Tricic words Yeah You know Tricic words

What's crazy words What? Oh shit Y'all got a summer show called Tricky Words You got the Pins song It's hilarious yo Oh shit We should do that

Whatever you want Pressure me into whatever you want. Let's talk off. I got to be humble with you, excellent, niggins. I want PC. I've read the whole magazine. They made it into an intellect thing. Like, when we got a problem because he's the smartest

nigger in the room. I'm reading these. I said, wait, there's a PR company sent this in. It's the same shit. Like black men or stuff. I'm like, what that's shit fuck my brain. You know what it is? When shit happens, people will have something

they've wanted to say for a long time and they use their moment to talk about the shit they already want to talk about. That's what I feel like. Mark. Mark, you sure you ain't said that in Mark? I know. here for a year. You are family, man. They don't know. I love Mark down pause. I love fucking

love Mark. Some things you can't get in front of, buddy. Your friend is about to get it. Hour two. All your little intellectual words, all that shit is cool. And hour two, one group of your friends is going to address another group of your friends. And that's okay. We are not a You got to be careful when you can combine friends. We don't share friends. Yeah, that's that. So, out of number two, man. All right.

Now, and let somebody come sage, the room. Like, niggas spray. I love my sage in. Some room spray. Like, but other than that, I don't think Corey got sage. No, he definitely. Yeah, he definitely.

Plugins don't make sage smell. The jail pluggins. Yo. Like a sound you hear that lingers in your ear But you can't forget from some black renaissance music in this piece man Try to ease my ease my nerve and shit Mic check one two one two mic check one two Shout to wherever you might be listening from

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Oh, that's why I got the shit. No, that's why. He put that shit on voice back. Yes, sir. That's like an extra moosey. Good, boss. If I was in a way. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Let this rock for a minute. I'm letting this rock for a minute, y'ammy. New your button. Hey. I'll start. I've stopped along the way Well, I got down on my knees

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Morgan, run off. Got you white. Nah, it's that shit. It is. Whole New York City. Big Jersey, big jersey, hey! Nah, let him get the verse off, man. We'd be with you in a minute.

We'd be with you in a minute, man. Music rules all right now. Well, I got that on my knee. The backgrounds. Yes, go. I forget to pray. You know, he's going to go. He knows I'm going to stay.

Y'ammy, tell me up out there. Hey! Hey! Mike check, one's going to win his day. Keep this applause going for the best crew in the world, man. We get these drops out the way right quick. At some point, I will get up, put some lotion on these dogs of mine, act like I'm on a big broadcast. You know what I mean?

What is that? Who is that? Who is that? Flip. Flip. And flip, flip, flip. What episode is this? 870.

Welcome to episode 870. Welcome to episode 870 of the Joe Button podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right. Are they views higher? Mr. What's their content like? What they doing over there? Big Queens.

Queens Flip is in a building, man. Quinn Flip, how you doing? I'm in the building. I feel good. I'm ready. Did you already put the channel in your little app to figure out what their impressions are? I did. We're going to get to it.

We don't get to it. To his right, the one and only are good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, is in the building. Mark, how you feeling? I'm good, man. Good, good. Glad to have you with us today. To his right, King Wawa himself has graced us with his fucking presence. Stop playing with him.

Mr. Thousand Doors and up. 2,000 now. Big is, it's into the building. Black Jacks. Yeah, a thousand doors and up. They know the vibes. The fuck is they talking about? I'm glad they know.

Yeah. You know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I'm glad to be.

Uh, next to ish. Come on, man. Oh, yo. Come on, man. Uh-huh. In the JCP. Leader of some 5% of group. Yeah.

I don't know what the name of his faction is. Yeah. But ICE is up to something down here. He's up to something, man. That's free. Mr. Take it further, our good brother, ICE is in the building. Yo, yo, yo. You got some experience.

expensive shoes on, too, I don't. No, no, I don't. They don't look cheap. They don't look cheap. I almost had a mushy moment thinking about ice last night. Whoa. Well, it's better than a hard moment. It's Mark's, it's marked to our hyper-manculine. Mark, strong men can be vulnerable. Take about your mushy moment.

No, man, why was that thinking about freeze? I don't know why freeze popped in my head. I was like that. Freeze has been a good friend of mine for a long time. It's a good man. Yeah, he's a good fucking friend. Like, I've repped for Freeze. I don't know if I say that enough of a beer.

The fans know it. Yeah, for sure. I know. Freeze is like my man, man. I love that. That's not said enough. Freeze, I love you, man. Oh, thank you, bro.

Big pose and say it faster, though. Don't, don't. Let me back, nigga. He's sweating too fast. He's sweating, nigga. So, you know, you want to say it back. I'm telling him say it fast. Boy, him.

Elmira's finest, huh? Y'all know the vibes. Big Parks in the building. Birthday, boy. Birthday. Hey! It's Libra season. Libra season.

We're not nearly as annoying as y'all Virgo, so. Nobody is. Nobody is. Nobody is. Don't be it. Don't be a dick. Don't be a dick. It's not.

It's not. It's inherent. Parks is here. Poe is here. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Saban are here by remote. Last but certainly not least,

each and every one of you guys are here. Don't forget that this amazing shit that we're doing here is brought to you by, fueled by, powered by, prize picks. Pride fits gang. Yeah. All right. How's everybody feeling? Feeling good, man.

Corey, you've been kissing this week. We'll talk tomorrow, Jim. We'll talk to you, Jim. Look, he's smiling again. Yeah, he's been kissing. I know my guy went to go kiss some more. What's up with y'all? Can I ask you, you mentioned hypermasculinity.

It made me think of something yesterday. We'll kiss some more. I went to the nail saline yesterday To get a manicure pedicure Right That's very masculine Very masculine Shiny buff

So she can't That's just it Right I walked in And she was like You want What color polish you want No one's ever asked me that before

And I sat there And the thing And watch her as another dude that came in She didn't ask him if he wanted a color polish Oh you're giving up a lot You look sweet You had that long hoodie on A t-shirt

It's covering your phone. You're looking like some sugar. Yeah. And so... And that's okay. It's the pan. It's the jiggings. That's it.

I get it. Y'all thought I was asking you to tell me all the ways I look gay. I get it. That wasn't where I was going. Oh, he reversed it. That was what I was going.

I know all the ways I look gay. I'm fine with it. Does that happen to y'all? Do y'all ever get Miss Red like that? Never. No. They've never asked me what type of color. Not just in the now.

That's not what he asked. Have we ever been, Miss Red. Thank you. I'm sure I've been probably, yeah. Well, yeah, I was just misread before I fucking came to work. I would imagine, let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see let me see him say, yeah, I'm black in America.

I mean, you don't get Miss Red for gay. Oh, he acted as gay. I'm not saying, you didn't get Miss Red, you act like you was gay. No, I didn't get Miss Red or act like I was gay. Wendy Williams took her lion ass on the air when I was a brand new artist and said, Joe Button is gay. Really?

That's what happened. I remember that. That's back in the day. What made her say that? Joe. Well, I mean, gay to her probably went off shit. Since how they know before you do, you know?

I keep telling you, they would know if it was true. They would, hey, y'all would know. Where to get out. Yeah, so Wendy Williams did that. She's amazing at what she does. Me and her later pieced it up and had an amazing relationship, right? So I don't harbor ill will toward her for saying that. And I understand.

The gig is the gig. The gig is the gig. Nothing comes before the gig. That's part of what makes people what they are. So shout out to Wendy Williams. I did get some feet pick requests after our feet pick conversation the other day. Did you? I did.

Yeah. I didn't take anybody up on it. I was going to ask you, like, yeah. If I'll find out you selling pink toasts for $50. Are you crazy? I'm not doing nothing with them anyway. What was your price point? I don't know.

I don't know what the rate is. I got to do some research. Some market in the next. Oh, man. Do some research, right? I got to get a feet pump. That's crazy. You would judge him?

Yes. Why? Not really. Cause those feet, Parks me. Not really. Sell them. Sell them.

Yeah. Well, not. Yeah. That park's the number one engineer. How many, how many ways do people get money that you judge? Not many for me.

It ain't. It's not a whole lot. It's not a whole lot. It's got to be like, like, morally wrong in my opinion. For me, it's the moral thing. If it's just weird to me,

I don't give a fuck. Yeah. I don't respect the niggas on the cards. I don't respect that whole side of what they're doing. What you mean? I don't know what you got the fake card. Oh, the scammer. Oh, the swipers?

I don't respect to that. I used to do scams. Well, I do a little bit of respect for it. But it depends on who you're scamming, I guess. Yeah. You respect them, right? That's my problem. We get the Macbooks half their own.

Respect them. We even gave them. You get the Macbooks for $500. That's not funny. That's not funny. I don't know. I can nobody eat steak, my nigger. Unless it got something to do with you just say I don't like I don't knock how anybody eat steak

Okay, I definitely do like unless there's some kids involved or something you know what I'm saying But there are okay But there are kids involved they're doing this potentially with if you're still for someone's parent Right scamming right fucked up Christmas you're all like fuck no no I'm just saying I get it We're just gonna have a little bit of a healthy respect for the for the under underground shit because of where we from Yes I want to grow out or something. Yo, I just think America is built on a hustle.

I think America's built on scam, and I think America... Scam them companies then. They are. Let me guess, because the companies have insurance, right? They have insurance and get it back. Yeah, if you take this, this is the downside from what I've seen and observed. I've never ran to you. I did.

My cost, I got caught off the way. You better than us. No, I didn't. I just sold you. No, I've benefited off the scam. Yo, I've benefited off the scam. So I'm just saying this, like, bank's going to get your money back.

It's an inconvenient period of time in which it takes for you to get your money back that could be detrimental to you and your family. People's credit took hits. Yeah, like, from identity part, shit like that. They miss Christmas. So that's fucked up.

Yeah, you might need that money for something right there. And I'm about to say, not just that, bank give you your money back, but it might take 30 days. That's all the money I have. It might take 30 days for the, yeah. On the other side, when them niggas meet you in the alley? Y'all got this, I got that? 40%

It's fucked up to say, but I think you just pardon I don't believe what you're saying Joe, I know niggas that And I know in you a while But I've refused to believe that Home Depot You've taken

Let's talk Don't bring a minute Just talk Yo, when these TVs fall off a truck Somebody that On the TV Is out of luck It's usually a company, though

It depends Well, speaking from my own experience. Okay. Once I stopped stealing TVs, I purchased all my TVs from, like, the store. No, you've purchased TVs at a drastic discount based on some hustle. You were stealing TVs when they were still a big bag. No, I was stealing, yeah.

You were stealing TV. Yeah, the heavy TVs. Damn. Well, no, I was stealing tubes in the back. I was stealing tubes. I was stealing pro scant. Pro scans. I was expensive.

I was around when the flats just came out. Yeah. Like, plasmas. Plasmas. I was stealing those. But once I stopped, I always bought my TV from a phone. That's part of my problem with what you're saying. We make too much money to still be...

You didn't. What TV is? Name the TV. He said you bought one of the back of the truck. He said you bought one of the back. Name a TV tell you. I never purchased the TV off the truck. A TV or something else?

Are you talking about a TV? Both. Not a tell. Yo, dog, what is inaccurate? All right, cool. What person in here has not purchased something that fell off a truck? Well, something is something different I told me I bought a mattress

From a barber Barbershop where you get the bills at though The barbershop is where the deals Check it out man coming there with It's a nigga that come in a barbershop taking orders What you need One of my niggas takes what creed you want What bond number nine you want

What Tom Ford you want I'm not saying that nothing y'all are saying is wrong. My question is... You got Tom Ford guy? No, cologne. Cologne. People's got you? He was got to jump the fence.

He's strong. I could use a black choice. I got the cream. I got the cream. What the Tom Ford discount and white privilege? He's just trying to... You're trying to kill it again. He's just a noise for birthday, man.

Make a noise for a birthday. I just think at a certain point At a certain point I think it's important to change You know, that's all Can't ask Corey is I'm about to. Can't. We doing houses Corey's not on this show. When that nigger

says, yo, it's 50% off anything you want at Home Depot What do you think I'm gonna say, Joe? He's right. Even the shit that I don't need Let's say it costs me 150 to rent a house. Let's say it costs 150 to Reno. Okay. Out of that 150, a good

$60,000 of that might be material. $70,000 of that might be material. So if you think I can save $35,000 off the material price, I'm not going to do it. You got too much faith in me, my brother. Well, stop. I long ago came to that realization. I just want to reaffirm.

That's one. My response to that is you can find other means to get your 40% discount. When you, it's 50, and sometimes six. Sometimes it's just be right there. But when you let me know the other means, I'll take them. This mean right here.

Hope Deepa don't play that shit. We sent Corey some legal shit to get a discount note. Go ahead and lie. So if you have an option through programs? I'm just saying you don't have to do that just because we was raised.

I want you to know. Whatever you said, Corey. He got what? He ain't used it. Yes, he did. That's not true. He might have used it. Corey said the nigga got fired.

He used it. See, look, now you always talk too much. You always jump in until he ain't on the show for a reason. Don't repeat nothing he's saying. So take it out. Yeah, he's gone. But it's a difference between, to me, taking something from a company. A thousand percent.

And saying, like, oh, I got pipes. I got copper. And you find out somebody else's house don't got it anymore. Mark, can you put that, adjust that mic? Sure. Like, yo, dog, let me tell you something. If somebody dropped a bank roll on the floor and I could be flat broke, I'd be like, yo, dog, you dropped your money.

I'm not stealing nothing from nobody, bro, period. Flatbro. flat hopefully they'll be like oh shit my bad I've been flat broke before five a couple dollars

up the floor I'm not looking for nobody I'm like Yeah it's just so it's just so old school Yeah bro yeah

Someone drops their bank He's talking The one with the A fat How many people They got a bank Right now to drop on the floor

A couple of nigs Even that I don't know where you You got one right now Everything he say is like From some privilege man

He got a bankroll. Some people still like carrying cash, yo. The 1% Niggas name is. You carry money clip? No. Rubber band. He's still trying to relate

to them, niggas. He's still trying to relate to them, niggins. He would have a beeper if he could find one. Yo, beat me on my Android. I got the Android beeper. You put the ones on the inside? Yeah.

Oh, you got a lot of money. It's going to Ish. nigga, we fuck with you, bro. Listen to these niggins. I know y'all- I know y'all niggas front. It's all right. Cool.

I'm just not sure. But you take the discount. For sure. Nick, call ICE like, yo, we got the new iPhones tomorrow. Freeze take anything. Well, you know what we think about. You know what we think about.

That doesn't help you. You should stop wanting us to look at you like we look at ice. Oh, shit. Separate, man. No, I'm honest. I'm honest. You crazy.

No, ICE is honest. It's cool. Listen, man. A lot of important things need. our attention. Not really. Not really. It's one of those days like Monica, but we're the best in the biz, so we'll get through it. What is most important or most unimportant? Or what do we disagree about the most? It's hard to know, but my timeline has been filled with weird shit this week because my algorithms are thrown off. And one

of the things that popped up for me was this Amy, T.J. Holmes and Amy, what's the woman's name amy um amy i feel bad amy is amy for right now amy holmes right it's about to be amy homes anyway tj holmes is y'all know they she was on uh good morning america he's been a fixture in black media for a long time anyway he and his wife or girlfriend got fired from good morning america because they weren't they weren't supposed to boyfriend and girlfriend at the time they were both married to different people they used to double date sometime oh shit used to hang out swang that's fine except they weren't i thought it started with the swing. They never reported

that part. I'll just say that. You never know. Just my intuition. The point is, a lot of scandal, a lot of speculation, and they eventually got fired, because America didn't want to see two co-hosts cheating on their spouses with each other. But now, they cheating was so good that they didn't seem perturbed at all

by this. They were unbothered. I didn't see nothing that said, hey, this is wrong and we're fighting for our jobs. They said, bet. All right, we're out. That's what it looked like. Now we ain't got a hot. It was a podcast. Yeah, exactly. It's my guy.

And I'm trying to find her name. And anyway, they just announced after about a couple years that they're now getting married. It ain't been that long. We've reported on this maybe a year and a half ago. Yeah, it ain't been that long. Yeah, a couple years ago. I've been here a year and we ain't talking about it. The point is they're together and they're now getting married.

Love wins, love wins, love wins, baby. What's your problem with that? Love wins. What's your name? Amy Roboc. Oh, thank you. Let's make some noise. Love wins.

Love wins. True love. Nothing stands in the way of true love. What possible problem that you have with love winning? What happens after that? You can't say that. Wait. You don't go back. You can't say that.

You see them old school vines, nigga? Ask Amy. Amy, it goes back over it. Once you go black and go dark. Why don't you go white? It's all right. I'm all right. Oh, man.

I don't know. It's so many things. I don't like the whole scandal. I didn't like it from the first. I don't like, I don't like. You think it's shameful? I don't like people. It's so disrespectful.

Wait, to fall in love with somebody at work? To double date with somebody to kick it. They were shit. Even the siblings were kicking it with each other. That's disrespectful. That's wild disrespectful. That's a wild disagreement. Nigger, kick in your face, busing your chick.

I agree with that. Nigger, kill your ass. But then love wins? Hey. baby face Vanessa Williams Love Makes things That's it

That's it That was pebbles And fuck y'all Oh shit it was pebbles It was pebbles It was pebbles Love you do wild shit In the name of love

Every wild documentary I watch Is somebody Bugging the fuck out Because of love Let me ask y'all They say they only built bridges To find women on the other side So

I never heard that Wow That's put all the old old he just got them things in the Bronx fire over there I'm sorry, go ahead what do you think about or do y'all think that you could be in a relationship

and you could be in a great relationship and you can meet somebody that could potentially be your soul meet is that the end of the question? Yes, absolutely. That's very possible. Yes. So if that is very possible, then why do you think this is so just because they was hanging out and kicking it?

Based on the reports, he found a lot of soulmates at work. Oh, I'm a soul brother number one. Producers, it's... You're trying to see where his soul fit in the best. He's soul fit. A lot of souls ain't a lot. But I know T.J. I like T.J. a lot.

And I think he's a good dude. I just think that this was a terrible choice. Not the woman, but the workplace. Like, if you want... If you're going to cheat, I'm just saying, don't double date. Don't kick it with us. Don't move me into your world.

It might not have started that way, though. It did. I'm saying, that we could have been doubled down. Oh, I see you saying. And then you start looking across that table instead of next to you. There's something built.

Okay, fair enough. Is he not supposed to double down after they got fired? Yeah, I hate, oh. Is he not supposed to more? Is he not supposed to what? Is he not supposed to double down after they got fired? No, Mark is saying, I get that.

After you get fired. They got fired already. Look, if that's your person, that's your person. I'm not mad at him for choosing her. I'm not mad at him for getting married to. Marry who you want, love who you want. My relationship is not going to keep me from the person I love. Sorry.

You are dumb. Hold on. Can you say that one more time clean? I just want to get it for the clips. I'm going to make you. So when you get that text at 9 a.m. a month, I'm going to make sure. Hey, you said, you know. Yo, Angela Ryre, I swear for God, I'm serious about this nuts shit that I'm saying.

This nigga said that shit like it was Aaron Judge Schott. He is not joking. I'm very serious. I'm not, I'm not parted. Dog, so the person, look, I'm not part of it. That's some sucking shit you do it right now. I'm dead ass. So look, the person you wit your love,

you could love them. You could love them. I'm telling you that I have been in the situation before. Well, let me preface with it. Do you, do y'all believe that you can love two women at the same time? Thousand percent. Yes. Yes, possible.

You can't. I can't see it. I've done it. So you don't believe that? My wife watches the first 30 minutes in the five. No, I absolutely cannot. You 40-something-year-old. Mark, do you believe someone else could?

At least someone else could. I believe every human on the earth is capable of it except me. I got you. Your wife watches. My love is exclusive. Right. I do think it's a little strange to love two people

at the same time when you're like of age. When you're younger, it's a lot of easier. It's some way this shit become a choice. Shit, when you're older, when it get tough. Oh, she's right there. You love me too. We like each other like that. Oh, family.

Yeah, we'll throw it all away. You know, we'll throw it all away. What are you going to do? You know, my family. You can throw in the fucking kerfuckle, nigga? Yeah. Yo. Not me, though, but you're not me neither, but.

I can see it. I can see it before. And love is so strong, the shit is magnetic. So that person is all the way over there in the Bronx. You home. You home having to deal with, Like, whatever your relationship calls for it. Especially in a work.

You being a provider. You're being a fucking, you're doing all of this shit. Sometimes the feelings fucking deteriorating. You're not having those talks in real time. And somebody else catches your attention. That's true. I believe that you've got to be mature enough to have those conversations with each other. But I'm not going to be naive and act like that don't happen where people get a mistress.

Or what's the guy version? There is no guy. A mister nigger. A mister. where you get a mistress or a misterness and you fall in love and now we got to go home and have uncomfortable conversations

because somebody else is making me feel a way that you ain't made me feel in a while. Dog, especially in the workplace because you spend so much time in the workplace with somebody that that shit could just really happen organically you might not have intended for any of that stuff to happen.

Word. Like Johnny coming in, wearing the fuck out the suit, smelling like heavy. Your man, a mechanic coming home with the dirty hands like it's a different ball. How do you identify it work with the ability to submit?

How do you identify it? How do you, you know, bitch? Wait. Hey, shalt and shut out, nigga, it's. That's my baby. Bringing it in and a half time. You're like, yo, what? Your old man, nigga, I'm talking to you.

How do you know, when do you know is love and just not? You interrupted the real funny bit. Pardon me. When do you know it was love? I think what's going on too long. When do you know it was love and not instant gratification? Or like in the, you're serious. You serious, that's it?

Yo, stop trying to be Mr. Syrians because they're playing on your intelligence. When we got serious, when we got a real funny beat going, don't be Mr. Right. All right. This ain't that type of war on there.

Man, some thing is going through this in real life. Like that's me. You don't have to be snored up here. We like you stupid. Oh, shit. I take it back. Oh, man. Go ahead with your shit.

You won't know, though. I think time will tell. I like your stupid. This motherfucker. That's funny. All right, man. Let's move on. That was funny.

To your point, you don't know. Time or tell. Okay. Some shit be good instantly. Yeah, but then when you're at home thinking about them at 4 in the morning, you're laying next to your chick. That works shit.

Or not just that. Like a fake. It could be a fake love. Infatuation. Because you don't got to work with them. You don't got to live with them. You don't got to live with them. You get the best part to them.

Guess what happens? And then when you do, welcome Amy and T.J. Yeah. Do you think that's infatuation still? No, I think I've seen them together. They're in love. That's my point. And they might not have set out to do that.

You know, he'd be cool with niggins and shit on them in a nice way. I'm not sitting on the middle of my man, but I don't grass in the bar shit, TJ. No, I mean, I would tell him if he ever asked me, not that he should or would, but I would say, yeah, I think going on double dates, which is, that's the part I had the issue. You talked about initially. Yeah. But you know where I could disagree with that? And this could be cock sources, but it was also a report saying that the two, the other two, started dating. That wasn't, but the rumor, even if that's true, was after they got exposed for cheating.

Of course. So then it's like a revenge thing. Oh, okay. That's you putting the sentiment of revenge on it. I'm not saying it. Well, I'm saying it happened after. I'm just saying it wasn't a thing. All I'm saying is it changes the optic of our double date.

Not to me. Double date the swingers. He's right. If you steal. If you steal my wife, and then six months later, I'm like, well, fuck it. I'm going to be yours. That's different. Yeah.

That's not true because that means you already had to have some level of attraction for the individual. Unless it's revenge. No it don't. No it don't. She also might be nice. What Park said? She was my wife. Wait, wait, wait.

She was right. Maybe, you know, what kind of shit. But I want to play off what he said. Because I'm with y'all. It don't say that you have to have had an attraction, but I think it starts with having an unattraction for somewhere that you want. once were attractive. Yeah, you're looking, for you

to do that, you're looking at your home base differently than you once did, for you to even be available to fall for the MC Gusto. Especially as a woman. I think that... All right, we're in the man's fair now. No, no.

No, I think women have... Redfield has entered the chat. No, I think women have more... Oh, God. Oh, God. More, more. His next word, you're about to be on a remix. Yeah.

Yeah. Tanner, get ready. Morality than us. I think that if you're a woman, a man could be like, yo, he fucked my chick, I'm gonna fuck his chick back. Yeah.

A woman is giving their body, me too. Look, a woman is giving their body to somebody, like, I don't know if the revenge is revenge for the chick. Today? I disagree with that.

You got the chicks today. Oh, you're not. He's 50, nigga. He's talking about Charlene before they're voting shit. When they had money rolls. You think women are able to Women got some revenge seeking in them too

Yeah, you think women are able to have access To a different level of morality than men I do No, I think that women I think that women Because they're judged more harshly by society They tend to make better choices Because they suffer the repercussions

You got to join us in 2025 That's why they say they mature Faster than us Like listen I think that if women could run around doing what men do a lot more of them would

he left it he's back he saw the shark he was like no no no you forgot you forgot they got a walk

they got the slut walk they are doing that now not in the masses like men no I don't think so if you think many as many women are living like men

we could disagree not as men I agree on that point. A lot more than before. They're there. No, but let me ask another question about this. Because this is the other piece of this.

Is there a respectable amount of time that you have to wait after you leave your ex for somebody else? Like in a situation like this, do you got to wait two years? You got to wait a year? He was already in love with the lady. No, no, no.

I'm saying like before you get married. Like you got to wait six months. You got to wait a year? No. No. When it's right, niggas will go right out the window. Because I feel like they waited two years,

not because they weren't sure, but because they wanted it. Formality. You didn't let it cool down the optics of it because you look like an asshole leaving somebody after I disagree. I disagree. I think if you lose your fucking job and wife you might as well go all in.

What are we doing? Speaking of wives, Brian McKnight, as you know, just had a major victory against his ex-wife. This was one of the weird things that popped up with my algorithm this week too. He won an $8.8 million lawsuit against his ex-wife, allegedly.

Four. defamation and other things and he made a video that is on the internet where he's talking about it's a weird video to me I mean there's a moment where he's saying you know guy

I let guy fight my battles because apparently guy is only on the side of people that has a law degree exactly God is a good lawyer right and then

then he had this weird thing with his son you know we mentioned his son and then he played an old voicemail message from his ex-wife then they showed him kind of skipping off in the background It's a very strange video, but he won the money.

And I guess, again, like, I don't know. He seemed like a piece of shit to be for a long time the last few years. And I'm not convinced that he's not based on everything I've heard from all the sides. You know what I mean? Everybody can make their own opinions. But again, like, he's with a new, like, does it matter? Do the legal victories matter? Do the vindications matter?

Does any of that matter? Once you get marked like that, can you change the image? I think. I'm sorry, go ahead. Sometimes it ain't about the image. Look it. You defamed me I want to win my money

I want a legal victory Just to prove that That shit wasn't true I think it's unfair I think sometimes For men We get shunned If we do publicly a bunch of shit

That women do Like you know we'll be like You're a man you can't do that Like how Anybody that's going through a divorce Or some shit The women could just come out And tell all the tea

If a man comes out and tell a T. We look at him like a bitch. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, dog. Just say the word T. Yeah. So I think that sometimes as a man that that's your, that's your vindication. The court. Like, yo, dog, I was telling the truth all along.

I can't come out and say some of these things because nobody's going to believe me anyway. So this was my win. This was my win. Here. If it's, God forbid, you and your wife went through a divorce, right? God forbid. It's just great. No what I'm saying? God forbid. God forbid. You wouldn't go to

certain steps publicly that your wife will go to you wouldn't you wouldn't you wouldn't I know you might be the opposite you know I'm not saying that your wife would even stoop to some bullshit if your wife did match oh I got you said yeah yeah that's not my style you wouldn't do it yeah yeah yeah but I would call you on the phone like yo you can't you can't you can't do it bro you just can't you got to eat that you got to eat it you got to eat it

Brian McKnight is one of people he's weird and he's done so much awful shit it makes me really not want to listen to his music anymore. And that nigga's fine. He's got some music. And it's so hard. I watch the video of him saying why he doesn't talk to his kids. Why, you know, a video, why he didn't speak to his son before he passed away, tragically a little while ago. And listen, he just abandoned

his kids. He wasn't touching him. We could still play five. He even named another kid. Junior. Right, but am I a social worker? That's what I'm about to say. Then I heard one last cry. On the piano by himself? And I was like, yeah, I was like, how nice was that kid? Like Park said, he ain't Touched the kid.

Karen, I care about my trusted circle of friends, my network, and my family, if they being the best person that they could be. Everybody else, I don't have time to police y'all. Yeah. How are the harmonies? Brian McKnight, I want to sing at my wedding. Four minutes. Four minutes.

Four minutes. Why do I have to, why do I have to, like, when we, when, Lord Elves went to perform at Best Buy, and they was running warrants and lock me up. Like, why do you think that the police about to be at my wedding to lock him up for not being here for the case? I want it. Yeah, all right. Let's try the different one. What's song?

What's all? Like, what are y'all talking? Ain't too many songs better than one last cry. No. I mean, not for your wedding bitch. Nigger. If you love your fucking work wife and then you end up getting married to her after y'all lose your jobs and this come on with respect to his other. Like, why we got to always care about the children?

And we don't know them, kids. They could have bad energy. Nigger, we want to hear this. And also, some things are genetic. Like, if Brian McKnight might be a little bit of asshole, who's to say that that big kid. The first junior. Come on, man.

Come on, man. What do you want me to do, man? Yeah. What do you want me to do? See that's the problem He got all the wedding slacks So who the fuck is supposed to come on after Jesse Powell I saw

Heaven in your house Everything I did before you Look at Corey I got it. Look at Corey want me to send him a playlist I got you I'm going to text it to you. Cori's in love.

I've never seen him sing Brian McKnight. Try kissing to this. Got to send his laughs over. I don't know, yo. And I'm saying that with respect to the other kids and sometimes they be hearing the podcast. I've heard a few different stories. I think what happens a lot of times is

I'm joking. Motherfuckers to do some shit that's just way left in public. No man is doing what he's done in public. Even if you feel like he felt, you wouldn't do that what he did in public. It bothered me to hear that he didn't speak to his son before he passed away. Yeah, that about me. That shit, like even listening now, Nico. He said, yeah, see, we don't be listening to

the man's perspective and I don't want to act like him what they say? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I don't want to act like a paper for him. He said some shit. That he tried. They used to have a really, really, really close-knit family. Yeah. Like, you know what I get about, like, I'm a Brian Knight fan. His kids used to be on all his albums. I remember. They played a part in all of that shit.

They said that their relationship used to be super duper, duper tight. And at some point in time, somebody drove a wedge against it. He tried to get it back, and they wasn't with it. They chose, basically. And that's just the problem with having more kids, right? It's like, you face somebody got to get phased out. Like, I can't beat.

Oh, we got to have so much time. Yeah, I got it. The kids were grown. Oh, and they grown? Yeah, they were damn grown. No, they were grown. They were grown grown. It was like a 30.

When they start beat. Yeah, Brian May night's position was some of these kids still wanted me to take care of them. They don't want to write their own ticket, all that kind of stuff. Namans, I don't know who's right and who's wrong and all of that. I know when you have a kid and you name another kid Junior, you already have one.

You can't have Brimeney Jr. And have two of them. Junior, Jr. And this is the other one ain't my kid no more. Didn't George Foreman name his kid? Yeah, but they were all still his kids. Yeah, but it was like the second, the third, the fourth. It wasn't junior again.

He named two juniors. Got it. He basically said the first one don't count. I just owned the first one. He caught a do-over. So that lets the public know which one he phased out, which is the problem. and he might be listening

I don't want smoke you know what niggas be listening to you boy maybe more niggas listen to me than I'd be one I'd be one to just talk shit about some people y'all be hearing me

yeah anyway I feel bad a little bit but okay I got it I listen to see Brian midnight's reason when he lose his voice I'll be off his side

he could be a shithead I'm with y'all on the shithead portion no he's right I can tell the asshole I would be there for all of my kids if I decided to have

all my if I had all these kids. I would be there for him. I ain't that type of it. And they said the judge ruled. He's a little bit of that. Whatever evidence they presented, the judge rule. Yeah, the defamation part is probably,

he's right right about that. What, bitch? I'm down to find out about one or two of them late. Let me ask you a question. If your kid disowned you when they were 30. If my kid. And you kept trying to be a part of their life or you kept making an effort, effort, effort to meet them halfway

or 70% whatever the case may be, and they just like, nigga, fuck. you suck my dick what are you supposed to do in that situation i think i if you're at and i don't want to get us all serious i think that that if that happened i would take that as a failure on my part right me too possibly because well shit if if me and my oldest didn't course correct i mean that's where it might have been headed i remember so i think it's important to i had a lot of talks with my dad with my granddad with just men fathers out there to help set my perspective straight because it's real easy for a parent

to also get angry at a child and that part is not talked about a lot. Like, I was angry at my kid for some shit and he was angry at me. So if it gets to the level you talking about, we missed a whole bunch of steps. And as a parent, you understand that from the kid, especially the kid that's getting shit put in their head.

But as the dad or the parent, it's your job to stay consistent. It's your job to add a different level of perspective. It's your job. And if that don't happen, then no matter what, it's a failure on your partner. And to add on to that, if I'm in that situation, I would still say if that kid ever had a change of heart,

that door is always open to at least have that conversation with that. I would never completely just say it's a dog. And it seems to me when you start changing kids' names and saying that's not my kid no more, you're closing that door. I can't imagine my kid doing anything that would make me do that. I think that's easiest than done. You know, I have two sisters, and my father tried and tried and tried, and they don't fuck with him for whatever their mother said.

And he tried and tried and tried for a long time with money and whatever. And for the first time, I heard him say, like, man, they don't fuck with me. Man, I'm getting older. He has accepted it. So sometimes you accept that. The door's still open. He's down for them to talk to him. Right. That's what we said.

Yeah, like, yeah. You can accept it. I'm just saying it plays something in my hand when I remember him saying that, yo, I tried. I tried. I totally agree with that. I think that's a little different from what I'm saying. It is. It is.

I totally agree with what you're saying. I got people in my family, some of the elders. It's like I did all I could. for such and I'm older now. I don't have the time or the energy. What I'm talking about is me and mine weren't, he wasn't abusing me and I wasn't abusing him. We just are building trauma.

You over there hearing, what you're hearing, and I'm over here, and what I'm here, we in the court both mad at the judge for different reasons. Like, it's a, that's different. Got that, I got you. Somebody's just getting their ass kicked by their kid. I'm not with that in the name of enabling your kid.

I'm not with that. Gotcha. That was a good talk. Yeah. It was a good talk. Hyder masculinity I mean, there's a couple moments I'm trying to move more

right We got something You're going to learn brother It's fucking Marks fall You can't control your timber And now people think That's what we do every week Because that's all they saw

I have no comment And they calling you and you And you have a conversation In the phone like yeah I accept that I did that, yeah I have no comment You're supposed to defend us I do

You know Mark defends us A lot You have no idea Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. All right. No, all the time, all the time. I actually think they'd be wrong about y'all. It's not just that.

I don't just defend my friends because I defend my friends, but I also think they actually be wrong. All right. Even with me and you, like I felt like people just got it wrong. What do you say? Because if you only watch 30 seconds of a clip,

they think that Flip was mad at me for using big words. And whatever I think about what Flip thought or whatever he thinks about what I said, that wasn't the conversation. At all. But because of clip culture, that's what people hear.

So then it becomes like, oh, you know, there's a culture. Black Renaissance. He jealous to him because... And that's the thing. Their points are correct. Their big picture points are. Based on for the clip. Their points are correct, they ain't got to do with us.

There is anti-intellectualism in the world. There are people who don't like learning. We are declining. All that shit is the country's true. This is what we were arguing about. No, we were. And so then I don't want you to become an escape goal or a punching bag or a punchline. You know what I mean? I hated that remix. See, that's where I think some of the ignorance...

After like, I was like, I'm not listening to shit no more. That's where I think some of the ignorance slide though right like and everybody's guilty of it but you got to pick and choose when you're guilty of just judging by clips you see like for me it's very important to remember i don't know these people i don't know y'all everybody is running their own business and running their own race it's real easy for people to think because you're on the algorithm so much or because they hear you speak so much that they know you or are familiar with you or know enough about you to now cast judgment.

True. Uh-huh. You can't do that and on the flip side be called this, this intellectual, not where I come from. Or this progressive. Not where I come from. That just means you are contributing to the divided states of America. True. And that's not my, that's not, that's not, that's not, that's not my ministry, right?

Like, I'm very, my, my church. accept it all and made sure to tell you every Sunday no matter what your walk of life is hookers holes prostitutes gamblers drug dealers dope addicts abusers they went through the gauntlet on Sundays y'all all are welcome here that's kind of my outlook on things I want to be able to communication is is not just what you say but it's what you're receiving. I don't want to be in a place where I'm only receiving things

from people that are like-minded. And some of them on that native podcast said that. Like, I'm really grateful for what Andrew had to say and what Bacari. Bacari had to say. I was really happy that those gentlemen were there. And I didn't, we can get on this later. But, yeah, we can get on this an hour too

because I got to get to the money. But, yeah, the, The money comes first. We'll get back to what they was talking about. And money plays a part in what they was talking about, too. It's just too much of that, yeah, and we'll get to it. It's just too much of that going on. Like, you can't call yourself the fucking, the native land pod and then misunderstand

people from native land. Or no, no, no. Because you have a degree. It's not even misunderstanding somebody. You are purposely shunning them and turning your nose up at them. And then you complain when the white- We got to talk about to say. Oh, boy.

I want to hear what you all got to say. And I'm going to just agree with y'all instead of. for my friends. But I want to hear it. Good. Yeah, you do that. Everybody stay calm, though, please. A thousand percent. Manage your tempers. Now it's time for my favorite

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We got some breaking news here Did somebody die? No, no, nothing that's serious Nothing that's like God He's not bad breaking news This is good breaking news Okay, okay Sweetie has

stood up and shut down the allegations of her being an escort Since we talked about On the show We have to address this Oh please Do you have a quote for us?

She says And this is all I can tell, by the way, it's written it's all her words. Yeah. The recent accusations made about me are false, defamatory, and deeply disturbing. I believe her. These claims misrepresent the facts and are solely aimed to damage my reputation. This person never managed me.

She was simply introduced to me by family. Her motives are now obvious. I'll let the lawyers take it from here. There you go. There you go. Thank God, sweetie cleared that up. Yeah, yeah. Now we got clarity.

Yeah, we get it now. We get it. I just got to wait for the other. Yeah. That was wearing heavy on me. Yeah. I'm glad that she spoke up. Clear her name.

So transparent. She could have just continued to go unseen and on her. But she had a sphere. Well, well, I'm serious, don't. I am too. I am glad that you clear that up. Now, what I feel about it may or may not have changed.

I understand. I don't think the madam was ever claiming that she managed sweetie. It depends. I managed your career. Yeah. I wasn't your road manager. I managed you on a row. I managed some things for you.

You'll make your purse. So she never claimed she was the manager. What else? She said she'll see her in court. Justice for sweetie, man. Justice for sweetie. You don't want to buy a line on your name. That's right.

Never. Took a while. I'm just curious. It took a second. Hey, sweetie, this was a story for a couple of weeks now. I'll pay that money. That's the part. But anyway.

If you're not selling pussy, then it's bad for them to put selling pussy in your jacket. Yeah, it is. I'll say that. Also, a lot of y'all are selling pussy. That's true, too. I'm not talking about sweetie. I'm not talking about sweetie. I'm just saying pussy is getting sold.

And also... There's nothing wrong with that. The alleged manager, madam, whatever you want to call her said, send my money, or I'm going to keep talking. And she stopped talking. All she wanted is her money. and she stopped talking. Did she?

I ain't seen nothing else. No, she had popped back out. She had popped back out a couple days ago. Go sweetie and go madame if you got paid. I'm for the madame's getting paid. Yeah, yeah, pay with you all. That's where I come from. It's hard to find a good madam.

Like, it's hard to find a good fucking accounting, assistant, engineer. Madams just ain't easy to come by out here, ones that you vibe with. So if you find one, hold on a madam that's bringing in an extra a couple hundred thousand a year. When bitches is dormant. Listen, if anybody's bringing an extra couple hundred thousand dollars a year.

Yeah. You want to play friendly with them? The feet picks might do it. They might. They might. Keeping my options open. There you go. This nigga said, yo, hold on to the good bannums.

They hard to come. I'm on God. I believe you, son. Way back in the day. It's a barb-long time ago. Hold on to your barber, my niggas. Way back in the day in my Florida day.

when I was in some of the strip clubs that I shouldn't have been in trying to fuck women that I shouldn't have been trying to fuck. A good house mom helps. It's like a third base coach. Oh, yes, it is. It's like a third base coach. Yeah, it is.

A good house mom will set this straight and let her know who to be with, who not to be with, how would you go, who's a good guy, who got good Carfax, who got... Stay away from this one over here. This one right here. A good house mom, have her just walked in the car.

Like, all right, fuck it. Because the show is too big. Go home. The show is too big now. So when we talk about that stuff, they want me to get arrested. But that's my past, Angela, right? It is our, too. That's part of where I come from.

It's important for me to understand all walks of life. I'm not shaming. I'm not shaming. where anybody got their education what that education may be and how they choose to disseminate that. I'm sure I'm more of an intellectual when it comes to ask for Angela Wright.

But that's what's our point. What are we talking about? Sell it. Y'all want to talk about Angela Rod? We're an hour, too. Well, we're an hour two, and we already just did what we just did coming off the break. So here we are right back to it. Angela Ryder.

I totally accept your non-invite to your platform and would like to add on to it. But she disinvited you from her? No. She said everybody up here wouldn't be welcome. Who wants to go up there? Oh, man, I can't go somewhere that I didn't want to go. I didn't even know that exists.

Why don't we tell the audience what happened? Fuck. Okay, good at. Tell him. Yeah. I thought you all was going to do it. I've never heard Markle by hell speechless. Get your hand out of your pocket, nigga.

He just made noises. In the aftermath of my contretem with the flip last week. You're ha-hoo? He's doing it now. He's doing it. Yeah, he's doing it. Trick-words? Tricky words.

There was a lot of media that came out, but one of the big pods that I saw respond to it. And I just heard it this morning on the way in was the Native Land podcast, which is a podcast with Andrew Gillam, former mayor of Tallahassee, Angela Rob, formerly of CNN media mogul. Mark, if you're going to do it

and give your friends a whole bunch of respect. Tiffany Cross and because... I gave y'all... Give y'all. Let's do it. All right, yo, check this out. Check this out. No, because he'd being too respectful for me. He's supposed to.

We're going to turn up. Yeah, but I don't want to... Let them want to be so big and say they last. Anyway, let me finish the thought. I'll just say this. They put a podcast out responding to what happened between flipping me and they offer different perspectives

on that. I think... I thought they were generally respectful and I agree with a lot of what was said. Some of it I had a slightly different take on but they were basically using this as a kind of launching pad to talk about a bigger issue which they saw was a dumbing down of America. I think the episode was called

Joe Button, the Joe Button podcast in the dumbing down of America. And they were saying the exchange between me and Flip is evidence of that. Now as I said earlier in the show I don't agree with that part of it. It's just not in his head so I think he does. Well that's where problem number one arise for me and then I'll toss it back to Mark.

you title it that and then admittedly say I don't look at that because that's not in my ministry See that's why I appreciate what Andrew had to say because he said one I'm not familiar with this podcast

I don't watch the clips from this podcast I assume this is not their frequency every week. He did. Thank you Andrew. Thank you Andrew. That's why you need niggins with brains around.

Thank you. That indeed is not our frequency every week. He went on to say, I also trust Mark and his ability to gauge where he should and shouldn't be, who he should connect with and who he shouldn't to kind of filter out where he's safe at. So I took offense to the sentiment, I took offense to a few sentiments, but one is that we slash I don't love Mark down. I take offense to that. I don't know how much I want to go into 11 mark down. Fuck one.

No, it's a big, do you think? It's a bunch of things. I think that the young lady Tiffany, so it's four people on the panel. Two gentlemen. Two women. And two women. Angela Rye, young lady Tiffany, Bacari, and the old mayor.

Andrew. Andrew Gillian. Who's your age? So. Former mayor. If we were a little more He ran for governor. He ran for governor. Okay.

So, who I think is dope too, by the way. So a lot of times in these political spaces, a lot of times in the spaces that are quote unquote intellectual.

We often look at demographics and we look and pick and choose when we want to play victim and we want to play aggressive. So when the rich white people are doing certain things to us, we cry wolf.

I mean, we don't cry wolf, we cry foul. And then we'll take the same exact thing and now shun other people that are less than we are or that we deem less than we are. So when we're in a political space and we see all these rich white people making all these moves and doing all these shit

and saying fuck the masses, I don't care what they think. And then the young lady got on the platform and basically called FlipDumb and said, I don't give a fuck what he thinks. I don't want to hear from him because he's not in my opinion credible or his opinion is not valid. It's the same thing that the white people that oppress us say their opinion is not valid. I don't want to give a fuck about the thoughts of sheep when I'm a lying.

So I think that that's a hypocrisy in that. You understand what I'm saying? I do. Also, that's what happened with Flip and Mark is contextual. And if you don't watch the pie, which none of them admittedly do, you don't even understand the argument that was taking place. And this is where my problem comes in, in the so-called intellectual community in thought process,

not watching or citing your sources is a huge red flag. You can't just spitball some shit and then claim you're an intellectual or go off a 30 second clip and claim you're an intellectual. Like if you don't watch the podcast and admit that you don't watch the podcast

and admit that you only see it in clip, and I didn't watch their podcast so I can't speak on that. But if that is indeed the case... That'd be ironic. I know, right? Which why I won't have a ton to stay in here, but I do have a problem

with someone not watching the podcast and having a deep opinion about the podcast. You don't even know what the argument is about where the argument came from. You don't know anything. Well, that's part of where my acceptance of her non-invitation becomes relevant, right?

Like, Angela Wright, I can assure you, like I've got over 25 years in this business. I can assure you if you and I are in the same place is a mistake on my part. Like, I'm all for people saying who's invited. and uninvited places, so I ain't mad at it. But we would never be in the same space.

I disagree with that. And I took offense to that because it was almost saying that, yo, if you aren't this, if you don't have these accolades, I don't even want to communicate with you, right? And again, to my same point, politically or economically, some people can now say, if you don't have X, Y, Z, amount of dollars. I don't want to talk to you and your opinion is fucking nothing

to me. Right. Well, and because of that I wouldn't be so quick to cast aspersions on people that I don't know. Like, is what I'm saying. Like, I've never met these people. I've been in a business a long time. If we've never met, I'm not taking your content and then

just assuming that I know about you or your character it's in bad taste, which is why you'll never see a clip titled up here, Angela Rye, anything. I'm not watching the content. What you're talking about is not my vibe. And that's where the facts stop for me.

See, Flip is my friend, though. You know what I'm saying? And so they were shooting at Flip a lot. It was unfair. And then we get into these spaces where, no, Flip may not have three degrees. I've been to Flip House. Flip got an elevator in his house. I've been around Flip.

Flip generates more income than a lot of these so-called academics do. You understand what I'm saying? So when you go on- A kid is well-spoken. So flip's children are mannerly, their polite as fuck and they good kids that you would think grew up in fucking Livingston, New Jersey somewhere, it's short hills. So I don't have time for y'all looking at content

and deciding which departments people are bright in and people are not. Who the fuck are you people? Hold up, Mark. It ain't time for you to fucking cop a plea for your friends. That's a dead serious. Like, who the fuck are you? see I'm cool with content lands being different too

some of y'all only get on camera with the intellectual perfection areas that you brighten I don't pride myself in doing it that way like I do things in real time I allow people to see my shortcomings I allow people to see where I made an error in judgment I allow people to see I'm a fan of redemption and I allow people to see growth.

I'm not just trying to only pop up when shit is good. I think that there's a certain courage in that. I think that that takes a certain level of tact and boldness. So again, for you people to look and flip, y'all don't come on. I don't know about,

I don't know if everybody's so bright in their fucking relationships. No. I don't know if everybody's having a blast with their parental situation. I don't know what your situation with your fucking kids or your siblings is like. I don't know what you like in social settings. All I know is what I see from the content.

You quote unquote intellectual seem to be pulling a lot from places that, again, like it said, you admittedly know very little about. It just comes off away. It comes off away. It's like if you put... Especially when you pretending to... See, especially when you're pretending to do all of this super black kumbaya shit. I got a problem with that, too.

I got a problem with the people that masquerade as kumbaya, Super Black, all for the people, and it'll be the first one to tell you how we're different. I come on here every week and say we're less different than we all like. We just got different ideologies. But I'm not going to keep listening to people who, in 25 years, I've never said the name, Angela Rye. I don't give a fuck about nothing y'all talking about over there. I'm saying that respectfully.

I don't come on here and say a word about any of that. shit, I expect reciprocity. You could have titled that clip totally different. Don't claim to be super pro black and then take the number one black urban podcast and put that type of stink on it

because you think you got a friend over here. That don't give you a license. I don't think it's that. I don't think if Mark was here or not. I think If Mark was here, they would never have those conversations. No, I... They're having those conversations because their friend is up here. No, they having those conversations because

Mark is deemed an academic and an intellectual, which he is. Not deemed he is. No, no, I said what you are. So now it's, yo, why is he even there? Like Angel E said, yo, Mark, just come home. Angela Rye. I mean, pardon, Angela Rye said, Mark, just come home.

That's the other beat. But then you go on to say how diverse Mark is. So I think that that's an insult because you don't put Mark in a box. Mark is home. Mark is a black man sitting in a room with black men that grew up in similar circumstances albeit we wasn't all in the court.

You can't say he's not home. We all had our own walks of life. Yeah, dog, like I just disagree with that shit. I look at it. And thank God there was a black-owned, independent media company there to pick up our good brother when he was misunderstood by other outlets. Talk about it.

Why is that part not being said by pro-pro-pro-black native land people? I'm getting confused. Yeah, that's a good. Mark was a free agent. y'all had a chance to bring them home and didn't you didn't it's a good point so don't sit up on your fucking platforms or pretentious as one of the charlemites that's how i know you i know you as one of the charlemites and get to saying what mark should and shouldn't be doing please please if you didn't discuss this podcast before if by your own admittance you know very little about it shit the woman tiffany said at least five times that she don't give a fuck about these other opinions all i'm asking is that you act like it Also, if you're for the furtherment of intellectualism in America, and particularly in the urban space, I hate that term, but whatever, wouldn't you want an intellectual on the biggest platform to disperse some of that?

That's what I'm saying, Mark mute up, man. You know what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I love Mark. We all. We all. Facts. We do. I do, too. Slash, I learn from Mark.

I do as well. Slash, I want and need Mark here. It's all of those things. No, what? It's a flip side to that coin. Mark is way more decorated than you academically. Mark can learn something from everybody else up here. And that was one of the things.

I know. And this is not your sentiment. That's intellectualism. That's academia. Yo, and it was almost like, yo, what the fuck is he up there? Therefore, he's just hanging around with these hooligans that he can't take nothing from. And that's not the case, my nigga. Again, you can have a doctor, a brain surgeon, right?

Because sit in a room with a financier. The brain surgeon can have fucked up credit, be behind in his payments. He's smart in that particular area, whereas the financier can't do a fucking surgery, but he over here sitting with a net worth of $50 zillion. You could be smart over here and smart over here, and the two might not intersect. That don't mean that the brain surgeon is smarter than the nigger that's a financier. Flip, like I said, lives well, my nigga. It makes more money than a bunch of motherfuckers that got a bunch of degrees.

This niggas kids are well-mannered, well-raised. He lives well, and I don't think Flip might have never had a corporate job in his fucking life. Well, that's on them because they think black is niche. Fuck is you talking about. I don't like that, though. They are moving around here, like black is just one thing. Flip is independent. A multi-millionaire independently.

You can't say that about a bunch of black motherfuckers in academia. And how about we encourage more conversations with each other just about how, and I'm not necessarily saying us and y'all. I'm just saying with each other about how we can be of assistance to each other. Why do we not, why do we not always try to drive a wedge in between some shit that already has enough wedges? Exactly. If you're so fucking intellectual, one, how about to understand context and nuance?

You could have made that point again without saying this part. Two, I never heard Mark say I'm a fucking super intellectual. I never heard him say that. I never heard Michael fucking Dyson. You know my man. Eric Dyson. Eric Dyson. Michael Eric Dyson.

You know the fuck I'm talking about the nigga. You know the fuck I'm talking about. I never heard him say, I'm an intellectual. I never heard that. I never heard Neil de Gros come say I'm an intellectual. The intellectuals teach. They're not running around

getting an erection or getting a wet click from self-identifying. And it's a lot of that going on that I'm only seeing since Mark got here. You motherfuckers can go back to the griot. Y'all can go back to the spiritual healer or wherever the fuck you get your news from. Again, y'all don't have that license

because your fucking friend is up here. And he could have been near. Anyway, I'm sorry. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done.

Fucking, we're not invited to fucking Angela-Rise show. Are you fucking crazy? Can I say something, please? Right. People, and I've been seeing, as people were saying that you shouldn't argue with me because I was, because I'm dumb, right, in their opinion. A lot of people move with that intellectual arrogance.

And intellect doesn't make you superior. And that shit is not supposed to be used. as a weapon. That's just supposed intellect is supposed to be used as a bridge. You know what I'm saying? Hold on. To connect, to encourage, you know what I'm saying? To connect, to encourage and to motivate me to be an intellectual or

to go over there and study and do that. That was my issue. And no disrespect to my brother, Mark, it's not an issue, but that was my back and forth with Mark. You know what I'm saying? It's like, yo, bro, I look up to you. Bro, I respect you. Bro, you're my man and I didn't take in consideration that you're just one of us. I'm just looking for you for advice.

Like, yo, you know what I'm saying? So when you crack the joke, I'm not looking I'm not looking from that from you. You know what I'm saying? I'm looking at from, ish. I play around like that with you. I was like, you know, so that was my thing. I don't feel like intellect should be used as a weapon.

And number two, I'm not saying you did that. You're my brother. You know what I'm saying? And number two, man, I got it from the mud. You niggas can't relate. You know what I'm saying? And I don't need a book. Not saying I do need a book.

We have a book. That's the clip. We got some part. I do need a book, but I didn't need a book in order to get where I'm at today. Yes. You know what I'm saying?

We make fun of this man and we can say whatever he want, but he took a chance on somebody. He took a chance on someone like me. If you look up my history, he took a chance and said, you know what? I fuck with Flip and I'm going to bring him up here

on the number one podcast. And that shit meant a lot to me. You know what I'm saying? So I look at that and I appreciate Joe and I appreciate everybody. Shout out to you, niggas. You knickers can't fuck with me. And I don't mean to say,

But people can't, people can't fuck with me. Get to where I'm at. I don't, like, get to where I'm at, man. This shit is from the mud. And when you get it from the mud, you appreciate different. You look at people different. You don't put other people down because you want to celebrate them,

especially the ones that got it out the mud. Not a lot of times, especially when you still punching the clock for the white motherfuckers that you supposedly condemn it. Ooh. This nigga self-employed, bro. I think. And one thing that, and one thing, and one thing, and one thing that stupid people,

and Andrew and Bacari said this. I was so, again, I cannot stress. They cannot stress. They held it down. How appreciative I was for what those two gentlemen had to say on the matter. Sure. I beg your part.

Again. I didn't. But one thing that quote unquote stupid people are really, really, really, really, really good at and they said it is known when somebody called them stupid. They did. I'm glad they said a lot.

They said a lot. I'm appreciative of those brothers. Angela Ry, I accept your non-invitation. If I'm somewhere and you there, I'm leaving. No, I'm a fan of Angela Ryatt, too. Yeah. I think I've sat up here mad times.

I'm a fan of Angela Ryre. I just think that in our community, there's unity and community. I'm not not a fan of her, but once we get to our all-black club, we could identify where we're at, who's our tribe and who ain't. I don't, I don't need they all.

I think they all. I think they all. love black people and I think they all care about all of us up here I do sound like it then no I'm just hear me out so I think first in terms of the title of the episode I agree I wouldn't entitled to that because I think that doesn't set the table for the kind of conversation we want to have alienates people from the beginning I agree with that I think and just a dear friend and it just appears a little like my name it's click baity what the fuck chasey click We know what it is.

Like you are their friend, right? So they're invested in a U and Flip back and forth. And I guess y'all are on this podcast, but it's behind a paywall. It wasn't the main. But like, why is my name even attached to whatever this is? One and two, why would you want to cast that type of light? Because also they showed that other clip where you were saying,

rest in peace to your friends that were lost and we handled it very poorly. I admit, we handled that I, not we, I handled. that very poorly. But again, don't tell me that you're a pro-black and then want to highlight the very, very, very worst of the best black podcast that there is. I'm just not buying it. Words and actions need to align it. I feel you.

I mean, I think we're all guilty sometimes of not doing enough research on clips or on shows when we make opinions. That's true. I think that's just all of us. We're in a professional response business, so that happens sometimes. I think if those are the only two clips they saw, I could see how someone

could draw an opinion of the show that's different then I see the show full-time. But that's why we should read more and that's why we should watch more. And trust more. Trust your friends. Yeah. Angela's a dear friend.

I mean, a dear, dear friend. And she cares about me. And so I think we're going to be passionate in defense of our friends. And that might become the top priority. So I do understand that. And Tiffany, all of my friends, but Angela's a close friend.

The fuck out of here. Got a question, please. Let me just let's get it. I'm asking a question after that. Let me get it. So I think. that's part of it as well. I heard their comments a little more nuanced than that. What I heard Tiffany say was when she was pushed on it was I'm not saying people shouldn't be everywhere talking.

She just said that's not my ministry. I don't want to be in those spaces. I think everybody recognizes that we have to be in all the space that we shouldn't just be in academia or we shouldn't just be on mainstream legacy media. I don't think they're saying I shouldn't be here. I think they're saying I shouldn't be here if it's not healthy or safe. She literally said, no, let me finish thought. Mark clean. I shouldn't be here. David,

I'm not going to let you lying what she said. Tiffany said you should not be here. Verbatim. That's not me freestyle. No, I'm with you. And that flip shouldn't be heard.

And that's, hear what I'm saying? There was a pushback. And by the end of the conversation, I think what they were trying to say that wasn't communicated well, I agree with you, was I shouldn't be here

if it's not safe or healthy or productive. I think the problem is, if you don't watch the show fully, from the clips, you might think that. But if you watch the show, you realize that it's not. And that's what I'm saying, I think we have to watch more and study more.

Again, I think part of that is just being protective of your friends. I agree that some spaces aren't worth being in. I agree with that wholeheartedly. As do I. Yeah, I don't think this is one of them. As do I. But I do think that there are spaces. And I think that's the point they're making.

I just disagree with the analysis that this is one of those spaces. That's all I want to say. And then finally, I agree with you 100% on the last point. And this is not about the native land pot, but it's about, all these places is a lot of people who say to me, why are you up there? I give them two reasons, right? One is I actually think this is a healthy and good

or three reasons. One, I enjoy it. Two, I think this is a healthy and good environment for me to have these conversations. I'm talking to people I've never been in conversation with before. I'm talking about the audience. But third, like, to your point, like, I got fired by CNN in 2018. Ain't nobody call?

The thing's what I'm calling, you know what I mean? It's almost like that would be going to everything I was talking about before. It's like, all y'all mad that I'm with this person, but none of y'all wanted to date me. You know what I mean? And so it's like... Yeah, I was perturbed about that. And that's not a critique of Angela in them

because they weren't... They're not in the hiring business, but I'm saying like these companies, these corporations, even some of the fans are like, why are you here, why you're this? Because I took some pretty passionate stands that y'all tell me to take.

And when I take them, it comes at a price. And God damn right, yeah. And I'm willing to pay that price. And I'm always grateful to you for opening the door knowing that it's... It's not an easy choice to hire me. It's easy in some ways. In some ways, it's like, what the fuck are you doing?

And so I never take that for granted. So I think it's a lot of moving parts there. I do think America's getting dumbed down. I do think we need to have that conversation. I agree. I just didn't want Flip to be even the post-a-voice. Because it's not. That conversation because it's unfair.

And he's not that. Because it's not fair, yeah. And there's way stupider podcasters than Flit. I was about to say that, but I was like, I was going to have a fucking ass. Mark, I just wanted to ask you. Mark, I just wanted to ask you because she's a dear friend of yours. Yeah. Has she at any point reached out you and had a conversation prior to going to go up and saying that?

She did. She did. She did. She did. All right. She did. And I didn't get a chance to Hollenbeckville.

And she came to me not about the pie, but about like, I'm concerned. You know what I mean? Like, are you okay? What do you? Yo, learn how to share

your fucking friend. I don't want to hear this shit Mark talking about. Learn how to share your friend. You got a friend that's cool on this side and it's cool on that side. Share your friends.

You know how many fucking mental health conversations we don't have with Mark and with each other? Like, don't tell me about some fucking fight that Mark and Flippad. Like, there's a brotherhood going on up here Whether you see it or not

But it is a prejudgment based on Your perception in the media They look at you one way Like you're obnoxious, you're provocative And all of these other things So you couldn't dare have a brain I'm not mad at you couldn't dare be Outside of a surface level thinker

That shit is insulting I'm not mad at a misjudgment I'm mad at the attempt to correlate it To anti-intellectualism That's what I'm saying You couldn't have a brain in you. Go ahead. Part of the problem is viral culture, though, because if I look, if people look at the three biggest

clips of me ever, maybe the four biggest clips of me, one is me laughing at a dude about the cheesecake factory with Angela, actually. That's funny. You know, one is me and you about the flat earth. One is me and you now. You're welcome. You know what I mean? You see what I'm saying?

So, like, I think we've had some great moments up here. The mace? And me get, well, fuck you, yeah. But my point is, like, there are moments up here that I think are great, talking about mental, talking about depression, that I wish five million. people would see, that I wish the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the or excessive parts of what we do. But they leaned into that, too. They leaned into it, number one, with the name of the clip. You play in the game. They playing the game as well. You leaned

into it with the clip, not just, not just that. You also took the number one biggest platform, and you structured your argument around it to gain some more clips. You did that, too. Y'all playing the game, too. Don't act like you above the fucking game and the fray. You doing the same shit. Yeah, I think it's also weird to of course, I personally, and I think all of us would like America to be smarter. And that's not just a black thing, my nigga.

White America's dumbing down every fucking day too. Technology and all of those. America. Which they did say in the podcast. They did say it. But I just, I was, my point was that I was getting to is I think we consider ourselves an entertainment podcast more so than anything. You can't expect high level intellect

everywhere. I don't want that. I want to go to the channel for laughs and music talks and stupid shit. Just like I want to go to the fucking video essays I watch on YouTube too. Well, that's the thing I got frustrated with with Twitter after this and other times. They're like, why is Mark talking about whatever, you know, Jay-Z or whatever when he should be talking with these other things? Or I hate that he has to talk about these. It's like, nigga, I wrote that on the board. Like this morning, I wrote a little scrappy on the board.

You know what I mean? Like I can name Brian McKnight. We are pulling. We're pulling Mark down to the trenches with us. But that's back to black people or not a monolith. Marquez's old show. Support that, big dad, out. Put that on your platform.

A man from North Philly that has experienced some nigger shit, the same way he has experienced some high-level shit as has most of the people in this room. Don't diminish us and who the fuck we are because we on this podcast talking about jerking off. It's some niggas out here running a million-dollar. No, dog, it's niggas out here running multi-million dollar businesses on their own.

That's where, again, it's just a little naive on the side of the quote-unquote intellectuals. Intellectual arrogance. Flip is running a multi-million dollar business. In spite of what you think about how he articulates things, that's not possible without some type of intellect.

Because y'all would be doing it. I'm running, I ain't going to say what the number is on me. I'm running a business. So my shit multi-million, but your shit is a business when you got a certain number. I don't even know.

Yo, go, I don't even know if your shit a business no more. Your shit might be a corporation. Enterprise. Enterprise. Yeah, you know, man. That's cool. I'm just saying, I'll be the first person to tell you that I left one school in the 10th grade.

I left a second school in the 10th grade. I left GED school. I left Votech. I left piano classes. I left anywhere where they was trying to get me. Yeah, yeah. Yo, I'm not ashamed of it. That's my story.

Right? Like, I embraced that. Part of what got me. where I am. That's why I totally embraced my story. None of y'all could shame me for it, right? But part of my belief system with two recovering addicts as parents is there's genius down there. There's genius down there where some of y'all choose to overlook, where some of y'all choose to not be in rooms or have a conversation.

I applaud Mark for being over there with y'all in the geek show and then coming over here. here and being down with us. One of the very first things Mark said when he got here was, listen, I've been doing X for this amount of years. Now I'm heard by my people. He didn't say by new people. He said I'm heard by more of my people. So if y'all are unequipped, the rest of you intellectuals,

to go to both parties, then don't shame one of y'all for having those tools. in the toolbox to be able to do so is all I'm saying. I hope I conveyed my point with all of respect in the world because I don't have any beat for y'all. Long story. Sure, fuck the vision. Yeah, I'm not with it. Yeah, it's divisive. I'm not with it. I'm not with it. I appreciate

y'all. I appreciate y'all too. Now, when I have my little house events and Angela and them are there and y'all are there, how do I need to have you on separate sides of it? I think Angela's fire. Not big enough, apparently. I think Angela's fine. I'm a fan of Angela Rye. set it up here multiple times.

She loves black people when she loves us. I'm a fan of some of her work as well. Please don't misconstrue what I'm saying as in I don't want to ever hear her. The way my black folk algorithm works is when she says some things I need to hear, it's there for me to listen to.

I'm not a regular listener of theirs. But I'm also just not with coming in here and just fucking kicking everybody in the back for no reason, unless you logic. Do you think that her opinion is she's saying that it's too late for me to learn or I'm too ignorant to learn? No, I don't, I don't, I don't, I didn't get that from what she

said. I don't think it's, I don't think it was even about you at that level. I think, again, you and the show became the faces. Yeah, it became like the launching path for a bigger argument. I think, I think that's how the media works too. People have things they want to talk about and we use newspegs as a way. Yeah, well, make

your point without Joe Button's name. True. Make your point without saying mine. But then I get the chance to respond. And she said that shit like there's ever been a call or a text that said Joe Button is trying to pop up in the hand to look. And I ain't mad. I promise it wasn't about you.

That wasn't about you. That wasn't about you. That was, I think the point was just like. If it's about y'all, it's about me. I hear that. If it's about you, it's about me. That whole speech, it was about me, even if it wasn't about me. But anyway, peace and love.

Peace and love to all. Yeah. And there's enough going around for, there's enough cake around for anybody to get a slice. That's it. All right. her next story. Sex toys. Right.

No, no, no. Your good brother, your good brother Mark wrote that day. No, I did see something that I thought it was kind of cool. I might be on the wrong side of this issue or in a minority on this issue. No, nothing crazy. The lime green joint. The MLK thing, right?

So, yes, I don't know if y'all I've been seeing Martin Luther King popping up on your... Battle rapping? Timeline, battle rapping. Wrestling? Going to the WWE. He said, I am the dream. Yeah, I said that. And they got in these crazy situations and finally the King family stood up instead of

enough, they went to Sora, who's like the creator of this, this AI technology and said, please stop this shit. They agreed. They said no more Martin Luther King AI depictions. But now people are saying, well, we need to do it for all. Like, no more Malcolm Max, no more Prince, no more Michael Jackson.

They, like, stop taking our icons and doing crazy shit with him. I'm of the opinion. That's not okay. I actually think we shouldn't be banning it. Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, I don't, I mean, as much as I hate St. Martin Luther King as a pro wrestler.

The battle right between him and Malcolm X was fire. I like that shit. I think if you're going to ban one, you've got to ban everything. Well, that's what I'm saying. We're banning the free use of it. Yep. Got it. We're not banning the use of it.

We're banning the free use of it. Meaning you have to get permission from it. So if you ask the estate and the estate is fine with it, then please, by all means. But for you to be able to grab our dead icons without permission from anywhere, like that violates ranks. That's the problem with all that. Yeah, exactly. That's the problem. Yes.

Because it's readily available for anybody. So you can go type in a couple commands, and it'll create whatever you want. And if we don't push back about that, then you could potentially turn somebody's legacy into whatever you wanted to be 20, 30, 40, 50 years after they're gone. And that's a scary place. So that's not about the icons, and that's just about people's rights. Yes. Well, I'm good. I agree with that thing.

Well, if you're alive, the rights differ. Okay, so that's why dead icon's rights is a conversation. Because the law was passed that says that once you die, it's wow-W-W-W-W-S. Okay. That's why people are saying this has to stop with the people that pass. The people that are alive, they can't do that with. Got you. But so I can't.

No, they can. That's the thing. With this. Well, there are laws that, the laws are different, I'm saying. What I'm saying is, like, people making them videos, they're not selling. It's not being sold. This is just somebody making a clip throwing it out there. So I saw somebody.

some money. But what I said, not just that, you still use him my likeness. I don't have to allow that. You're building your AI company. For example,

I saw a Patrick Mahomes one just yesterday where right after the game he gave a referee a hug when his pocket pulled out some money and gave it to him. Like, that's funny. But he's alive. But it's not something being sold.

It's just a piece of, I understand what we're saying people make money off of content, but you can't. And the company itself is making money. You can't build your business off someone else's likeness without permission.

This is still America. Or intellectual property. And this AI is not building their business off of someone's likeness. That's just a use of it. I could make a video that will have this. I'm just saying, I can make a video that I have this statue stand up and clap. That is also a violation of intellectual property. Of course, of someone that owns that.

That's the problem with AI in general is that it's just stealing. Right. And that is how to build a business. That's what I was. They are building their business. They are building their business because they are taking certain images and certain things. and getting popular with it, which means my business is growing

as the popularity grows, and I can now build up market share and go sell to a big dog for a whole bunch of money. And let's call it what it is. They're coming to us again to build their business. They're coming to us again to do it. Could we fall for it?

Like, yo, dog, so again, I put all these Prince memes out and Michael Jackson memes out, and my homes memes out, and Michael Jordan memes out, and now I didn't make money then, but now my valuation is how, I built my business on those images

and those means. The entirety of AI, the learning models, all that shit, as we know it at least today, is just taking a bunch of shit that already exists, i.e., someone else's intellectual fussing property and amalgamating it into something quote-unquote new, which is why there was hip-hop fucking lawsuits

in the early 90s. It's the same exact thing. It's sampling laws. So intellectual, and I don't know, I'm not a lawyer, so I don't claim any expertise on this. I'm just thinking, like, what makes sense to me ethically. You are, Lloyd.

If the intellectual property part, I'm with you. But in terms of just icons, dead icons. Should we not be able to have fun with their images? Should we not be able to do interesting, creative things with it? Should that be like a non-starter? Now you're opening a slip and slope. Malcolm X is one of your idols. If you saw a meme that somebody thought was funny of Malcolm X doing some wow, egregious shit.

It's not funny anymore. Right. Right. So your definition of funny and Parks' definition of funny or ICE's definition of funny is different. If somebody took Hitler and had an image of Hitler running around doing all this wild shit,

it's a whole group of people that's not going to think that that's funny. I'm with you. But I'm just wondering if I want to outlaw just because I don't like it. Because, for example, I would love to do some wild shit with the old image of Abraham Lincoln, showing he he really give fuck about freeing the slaves. I would love to have, you know what I'm saying?

And so I'm saying just because I'm offended by it doesn't mean that I want to outlaw. because I don't like seeing Martin Luther King in that light. I would hate to see Malcolm X in that light. But you would like to see Abraham Lincoln in that light. Exactly. So I'm like, I have to, I have to let it all in if I let. Or protect everybody from it.

And I'm not sure if it's practical. It feels like this is a, what do you call it? Inevitable? Yeah, it's inevitable. Thank you. It's some First Amendment shit or teetering some First Amendment shit. Yeah, and I'm a little scared of what it means. Because when the King thing came out, it wasn't like, all right, we need to stop everybody.

It was like, we have to protect our icons. And that to me feels like we're protecting some people from this. and not others and that doesn't feel that don't feel sustainable to me That's exactly what it feels like Because now who determines who's an icon

Right Or what's funny and what's not funny So to put a blanket out there We're gonna protect everybody So nobody gets offended Were y'all offended though When y'all saw Martin Luther King No no I was entertained

That's funny I was entertained When him and Malcolm X did the battle around I thought it was funny I thought it was funny With him in the ring I had it I know I had a dream

I don't stand with the dream I am the dream and all of that shit because I'm a fan of wrestling so I understand. And I thought about Amani when I saw the Michael Jackson one and I was sitting there like

as a Michael Jackson fan you could enjoy watching him and Prince talk about who did a better funeral or you could be like I'm hurt like his loss meant something to me and watching people play with him dead or Prince is awful. Like I can see people feeling but ways about it.

It's art though and so I struggle I just struggle with it anyway. My other problem with that fucking native land part, when did we ever have an intellectual that didn't need to learn how to convey their message to other people? Like, I'm just listening to y'all talk about Martin. I'm listening to y'all talk about Malcolm.

Like, this been around long for the Joe Button podcast and Mark joining. Not to arguing back to what you're always. Yeah, yeah. Sorry. But, yeah, anyway. Strippers. Strippers. Yes, strippers.

Let's get the truth. Little Scrappy has made the Internet's again. And let them know. You wrote this on the boy. Yeah, this is my story. This is my story. Little Scrappy, there's a couple of little scrappy going around when he was with his mom, Mama Dee, who people know from VH1 is.

Child, Scrappy and Mamadie, love him both. And they were talking about his childhood birthday parties, particularly when he was 14 years old. And Mamadie kind of matter-of-factly mentioned that there were strippers at his 14-year-old birthday party. And I was curious to know why. And before I could ask, she answered. She said it was important for girls to be there

because she wanted to make sure that he liked girls. He was chasing for us and not around the turks. But, okay. That's a little weird way to say. Flip her more, because there's another piece of the clip that I missed. She wanted him to chase pussy and not wear a tote. And she shouted out the LBGTQ community. She said, no offense.

Toast are very popular, though. Yeah. I love a good tote. Joe got 77 of them. Yeah, they definitely ask you a bunch of pot. I think the uproar was that she doubled down on that while Scrappy said it traumatized him. He said he had to go to therapy, and that traumatized him being 14 to see strippers and his And his mother said, you got traumatized by some pussy.

So that's what the argument is about. 14? So there's a couple of beats with that, right? No pun intended. So the first one for me is I didn't know that people really felt that way. Like Mama Dee, when I looked on the internet, there are a lot of people who agree with Mama Dee, right? They're like, yeah, you bring strippers around your kid early, bring girls around. Not as a strippers, bring girls around the boy early to make sure that he's quote unquote okay.

That's crazy. But Busy did that. Busy did it with his son? He talked about it. When Busy said it, and Busy took it a step further. Yeah, he did. I thought he was the outlier. I thought, like, he was, like, one in a million.

I didn't realize that a lot of people think that shit. Did y'all grow up when they didn't think like that? People thought like that. I mean, we older. So that wasn't necessarily a thing. Yeah, it wasn't a thing back there. Yeah, stop. Joseph, thoughts?

I'm quiet on this because, and what I hear you saying is changing the conversation. right like there is this negative undertone to mama d trying to figure out or bringing hiring strippers to see if her son is gay see i don't think he's trying to see i don't think he's not i don't think it's trying to see it's even if there's a question i'm bringing them to make sure this is to like this is what you're gonna like any way that you tell that story it comes with a negative it does it does it does to me make sure he's not gay it sounds negative no However, the negative is if you are gay, it's a disappointment. And that's the negative piece. That's the negative piece. Yeah, like that's the negative piece. As, listen, I say all the time how many gay friends my mom had, the hairdresser was great, everybody was gay, and my mom is cool with all of them.

There was a thing of, in black families, trying to identify who was going to be a little and who wasn't. And that's not because you were about to treat them any different. You just wanted to know. You just wanted to know. I think that's reasonable, by the way. I think that's very different. I don't have a beef with that. Make sure is different.

I don't have a beef with that. And when I say figure out they didn't hire adult entertainers to do so. Let me clarify what I'm saying. But I'm not going to shame parents, aunts, uncles, family for having that curiosity when kids are young. I don't take that that way. I don't take it that it that it's a curiosity. of trying to figure out it's more of a matter of fact type of thing like even if you are we're going make sure you this yeah yeah when you go to the extent of hiring adult entertainers and so forth and

so forth and so on then yeah i'm only talking about the ability to be curious oh yeah i'm not talking about you trying to you trying to drag something right yeah yeah because that's what i hear when i hear those type of stories it's like i'm making sure like i'm deciding for you i'm making sure this is what you want, no matter what. Yeah, like, every kid, every parent I know looks at their kid and at some point wonders, like, are they going to be gay? Are they going to be straight? Or it at least crosses your mind.

You know what I mean? You know, and you, how you respond to that is to me the issue. Being cured or in the family, I think also might be. You know, we all do that shit, right? It's the idea of trying to undo it. Black mother be like, she call herself liking girls. Yeah, that's it. They definitely think it's a phase.

The gay part is always the phase. She called herself being gay. Now you're talking. That's the body. Now you know, I'm shutting up. But now you're talking. See, because we're talking, in this conversation, we're talking about teenage boys, young boys, little scrappy being 14.

But today, the real shit? Oh. You know, it's the other way today. Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's the other way today. It's the other way today. What you mean? That's the way to talk is, for real.

It's in looking at our. daughters and our nieces it's the girls when they hit a certain age bringing over their BFFs and bro today wearing their hair a certain way dressing a certain way it's like hold up now and until they get the courage to come tell you or until you bright enough to figure out yo this is what's going on right it is a thing right yeah that's so much for the boys the boys if they close the fridge a certain way at five you just if you close the fridge with your hip at five that's what I'm saying wow and do that noise Uncle's be like, thaw.

Yeah, yeah. It's the girl running around and fucking camouflage sweatshirts. Yeah. With, fucking, if the girls run around dressed like Derek, where you're like, okay, something's up with this little motherfucker. And then they go get one boyfriend. Yo. You tell them. No, guess what?

Hey, as soon as you think it, they come home with their first and only boyfriend. But guess what he looked like? Oh, shit. A bitch. I'm like a little girl I'm done with your arm And they're walking that Why little Timmy look like that

Fucking Timmy like a little And they don't go And they don't go nowhere Once they once you Once it's out They come into Thanksgiving With their girlfriend too Oh that's a fact

So if you got a problem You eat your turkey fast Because the kids are coming with their significant others with their same-sex significant other as they should. I got family members

that's gay they ain't going nowhere without their motherfucking gay girlfriend nor should they and they should I ain't mad and come on you get some

sweet potato pot too girl go and get in here it's a good segue into Snoop's new animated series where he has decided to make some same-sex

relationships happen after his outlash a couple months ago before we get there can I just ask y'all messy questions Of the same topic, please.

Better than anybody I know. Have y'all ever been anyone's last straight encounter? Maybe not last, but... Close to last. Have you all ever pushed someone to the other side? Yeah, y'all fuck their heads up. Yes, Fais, is? Mark, I've been a last straight encounter yet.

Flip? Well, you've been married forever. I don't think the last, and I don't think you could push someone to this. But you put somebody over there. I don't know if you can push someone gay after you. Yeah. I think so, yeah. Yeah.

She was done with niggas completely. And parks. Well, to this day, so you never went back too. So, you know, you know. Yo, you're just a fuck up. What a fuck up? So y'all ain't never double back and pop? What?

Look at ish. Yeah, but that's not the question. That's not the question. Yes. Oh, you mean after she came out gay? Yeah. No, that's different. I fucked a few chicks that.

Yeah, that's different. But the problem with that was when I fuck that chick that swore she was gay after me she was trying to be straight oh no get your head back in the back to the other side back in the camera all coming over here

every day no and that's why you had to stop fucking the gay 25 year olds 24 year olds too now I realize oh no you know go back over there I'm not doing what no we done

I'm finished they don't stop Then you had the girl that was just throwing your pussy for years, but you never took it that way because she was gay. Yes. Had that? Yeah, you was faking. That gay shit is a nice thing to have in the two bucks sometimes. For a girl.

And for a guy. You tell you about joke quick. That sounds homophobic. You about to say something, right? Oh, yeah. That Angela Ryder would have been ashamed of. No, a joke is on you. She'd be fine with it.

The community is saying. And every week, twice a week, you talk about how gay I am on the low and I just miss it. I think it's more than that. It's a lot. It's a lot. He's awesome.

I don't give a fuck, Mark. What else we got? What else we got? Oh, Snoop, I'm sorry. Snoop, yeah. Yeah, they learned him. He's making an animated series on YouTube called Doggy Land.

And it's going to feature same-sex marriages or relationships. And he has a whole press release about how far he's got a damn right. He's got a theme song called Love is Love. See you. It ain't me, Snick. Clap, nigga.

You got me more? I'm not anti-gay. That's not what you're saying was. He just expected Donkey Man to be something different. I didn't say that. He told me Snoop was making a cartoon called Donkey Land. That wouldn't leave what I thought it was going. Yeah.

But good for him. Snoop leaves no bag uncovered. None. Him and Shaq. He's got flip that bad PR into great PR. Snoop and Shaq and I saw Shaq in some commercial last thing. I said, wait, he's in this too? I forget what it was during the game.

I was like, wait, what? They don't play. They don't play. They don't play. A master class in marketing and branding. I don't want to bunch them together. Shaq wasn't performing at the Trump show. Sorry.

Shack can't host the Olympics either. I mean, I'm just saying. Listen, kudos to everybody. They got to re-invite. Yeah. If you snoop, would you do it again? The crypto ball? No, I don't think you have to do that again.

I think he would. Shit, I think he would. I think he would too. I think he would. Hear him to explain why he did it, I think he would do it again. I think he would do it again too. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

He felt like he was doing it for crypto. He, hearing him explain it, it wasn't about Trump for him. It was about his business partners. It was about crypto and he had relationships. I'm not saying I disagree with it a thousand percent, but knowing how he makes sense of it, how he justifies it, I don't think he would do it. Why I disagree with y'all is because exactly what just happened with the doggy land. thing. He made, it makes sense when he initially made the statement

about not wanting to see same-sex relationships on TV. It was a valid thing. I don't want to have to teach my kid about this. I want to watch a movie. And then immediately he's got a show and a song. So I think Snoop is very brand conscious and he's one of the greatest we've ever seen at it. So I think that he would

not do the crypto thing again. I think one is offensive and one is less offensive. You know what I'm saying? I think one, you offended some people and potentially hurt some feelings and I think the other one you're just upset because remember most people want Trump

that's the thing like I get that he's brand conscious I think Snoot would do whatever is popular but we at sometimes in our part of the world

we act like Trump's not popular like most people voted for including some people up here like it's a thing why you keep saying because somebody did because he's fucking somebody up here did that

I'm telling you not in this room nobody did that mom okay name them then because you keep playing teetting around the line nobody in here did that

bus your gun or put it in the host and you do that shit I'll put my gun in the host I'll never say it again I'll never say it again All right, I'll never say it again. What a bitch. Tyler.

I keep people's, you know, I got to keep. Nobody told you that, Marr. Yeah, I just want to say that you're not keeping someone secret if every buff you say, somebody here did it. Somebody over here did it. I ain't going to say who, though. Yeah, you, okay, you're right. So I won't do it again.

I know it ain't me. I know what they ain't me. I didn't vote. And the second. I didn't vote at all. I didn't vote. I love it. I love it.

So the number gets narrowed down. Okay. Was it you? Was it you? No, I think it was Mark. It might have been Mark. You did it. You cracked the cold.

I cracked the cold. Somebody did. I would have got away with it if it wasn't featured. It was you. It was not to me. That's all I said. Mark, you voted for Trump? He wouldn't never.

I didn't. I didn't. Did you all yet Trump say he don't want to get in heaven or he's not getting in heaven? No. Do we care that our president doesn't think he's going to happen? No, but he's so religious. His followers are so religious. Right.

Man. Dumb ass is up. Anyway. There is. Yeah. Yo, real quick, we was talking about Snoop, I want to ask you all about somebody else from that error for me.

Is Fat Joe playing a caricature, and if so, a caricature of what? I don't think so. I don't think so either. You got to be more specific. You have to. Like, look at the clips that go right about Joe. I think you're leaning into it.

The story detail. Yeah, I think he's leaning in. He's leaning into being entertaining. Okay. At what cost is what I'm saying. I understand that. I'm not here to debate that. Okay.

Let me talk. I said, I bought Flo Joe. I bought Don Carter Gina. That's my shit. Me too. To hear Fat Joe say, I miss my uncle Georgia is like a slap in the face to emcees. I give that one a little bit of a pass. Some people are good to remember the lyrics.

Or hearing them. You don't got no lyrics you've been fucking like for 30 years. Not that one. No, stop it. I miss my own. Uncle Charles, y'all. From, There is no way that I miss my

Uncle George. I can hear somebody fucking that up. Stop that. No. Somebody, yes. Fat Joe, no. Why, though? Because he's MC.

We all got lyrics that we fuck up. It's one thing fucking up lyrics, but that is like the part of the song. If you don't know, Bone Thugs rap fast, we all know that. A lot of people don't know entire Bone Thugs. Midwestern.

But you knew that part. No, you knew that part. No, a lot of people knew that. That's why I was a thing with Jada kiss Another MC points it out You have to be pretending at this point to be stupid

To me he's doing the same thing Fabio does on Instagram Let's stop it I don't make you stupid And let me tell you this I'm not saying stupid And I'm gonna say this Fat Joe solidified it outside

I'm solidified Pardon me outside Right He solidified in his hip hop Rap career Now I want to do this podcast thing And I want to be provocative I want to be a little

entertaining Yeah some shit you might do I would never do that. You might not do that with that specific topic, but you've said, nigga, I'm going to be by for a week. Some niggas ain't going to do that. You know what I'm saying? Just for the interaction and response

and all that other shit. What I'm saying is y'all are correct. My stance is only coming from an MC's point of view. But Fat Joe's not an MC no more. He's not approaching things as an MC like that no more. Fat Joe still put out records. Fat Joe, the podcaster, is not an MC. He's approaching this as a podcaster.

Joe's podcast and puts out music, though. You're missing my point. My job when I'm on the couch is not to be an MC. It's to be an entertainer. That's true. So I'm going to be entertaining. If I know when I tell these stories or I do these little funny things like this, those be my clips that go viral and at work, I'm going to do it.

I'm not arguing with y'all. I got that. I'm just saying at what cost. Like when the word went around that Fat Joe tells the most amazing stories and it could be lies, we as a fellowship kind of just laughed. And because it's funny, and we understand that. Okay. For niggas that purchased Fat Joe music

to hear him sing out loud, I miss my uncle Georgia. He probably got an Uncle George. No. No, no. I get what you said. No, no, no. I get what he said, too.

I think he's made a mistake. I think if you see Asap Rocky, if you see critical, if you see Joey badass on a movie for that particular role. It's one of the most identifiable lyrics. And all, you're being too critical. This is a completely unrelated note.

Have you ever noticed how long it takes for the chorus to come out on on Crossroads? Yes, I have. I should don't come until like two and a half minutes. But they was cooking. And we pray and we pray and we pray. They was cooking though. They were absolutely cooking.

Uncle Georgia is hilarious. Oh, I know you're MCC. I'm offended by that. Yo, it's funny. I'm offended by him. I can hear him fucking that. And he could be just joking around. I think he's joking around.

It didn't seem like he was joking, though. I put Fat Joe in the same boat that I put Fabio in when he do on Instagram when he's spelled the shit wrong. Oh, okay, easy. No, when I say that because Please, let me finish, please.

Pause. He's spelled, I pay it. He'll say he's spelling shit wrong because, again, I'm playing into something that y'all already think. And it's gone, that's what goes viral. That's what, this is the content space where niggas got to do shit to go viral.

That leads to the check. That leads to money. You're saying, at what cost? Well, guess what? You said at what cost? Niggas ain't really making a lot of money selling music today. But I might make a lot of music on this podcast,

and I need my numbers and my views and my clicks up. So yes, I'll be entertaining to do so. Freeze. You are absolutely right, my brother. I'm saying at what cost, him and you and him are saying a cost I'm willing to pay. It might not be a cost.

It might be some debit. You holding me to MC world. You've been here since 92. There's a cost. Allow him to grow past MC world. I'm not going to let your new kids in the block do that.

It is at a cost. What's the cost? You're not looking at Fat Joe to MC the same no more. You are. You're wrong. That's a cost. Joe, I'm not saying

it's a big one, but it is a cost. We don't have to care about it. You know, you know part of what makes they dynamic, they dynamic on that fucking show is the fact that he's sitting

across from somebody that the entire universe knows the shit on that mantle. That's what makes it. Yes. So now I'm going to, to play that wrong. I'm going to play the opposite. I have a question. You got it.

There's never a word. There's no content universe where Jadikis would misinterpret such an identifiable. Exactly. So now let's be Oscar. Do it. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that I'm looking at you a little different and you look stupid. I have a saying that Uncle Charles is Uncle Georgia.

You know what else makes that clip work? I look stupid every week ago. I don't mind it. You know what else to make that clip work? The one who doesn't look stupid, Jada kiss, responding the way he did. True. I would also say being on this podcast for a long time and working with you in the real hip hop space

there's plenty of people who got a lot to say about you liking the fucking birdie music from the strip club and big up such and such while not talking about such and such I say this is probably a lot of people that look down on your MC career

because of how you have podcasted and maybe that's unfair it probably is unfair but yeah I would say that that's unfair but I think it's unfair to say that about bad Joe. I think it's unfair to Joe not me

okay I'm Mr. Critic I had a whole different take which is just that I think podcasting is hard. I think when you emce and you're a star, you can curate your image real easy. You control when people see you, how

people see you, you tell a story on a YouTube, it goes away. But when you've got to do this shit every day, and you've got to come up with stories and be interesting and funny and all these other things. And keep engagement and all that shit. Yes, bro. I think some of it is people just seeing other sides of them that we might have not know. Like, maybe he's a lyric fucker rapper from way back. We just

would never know. Maybe. I don't know, but I think a lot of it is just you're seeing the cracks because this job is hard. And being interesting every day is hard. Oh, yeah. The goal. Yeah. Double on top, triple on the hundred, maybe. Yeah, I think Joe's shot to fat Joe. I love the show. Yeah, I like the show. I love the show. Oh, cool. Even though they, even though y'all

stole my flag throwing shit. I saw that. Yeah, they did do that. Oh, they got the flag on the flag? Yeah. They throw the flags. That's funny. Not funny if you believe that you're being spied on, but I'll save that for my truth podcast coming soon. Do y'all care that at Jay-Z is following the Joe Button podcast fan clips page. Well, I think you should follow the official, which, quite frankly. I know, because I've seen this happen before,

holy, press the buttons. Yeah, by the time you look, he's not following no more. He'd be following shit, liking shit, or accident from scrolling. I checked this morning. You're still following. I checked the other page that he was following. It was like a very right-wing, inappropriate joke. There was people without, you know, with,

physical disabilities that the people are making fun of so Hove is a wild boy if these are the two pages that he actually wanted to follow on intentionally I've like I said

I didn't take too much into it because I've seen it before where oh shit Hove like this or Hove followed this and then he can correct it I don't take much into it either but I know that Hove does that to kind of just let people know

that he sees things here and there's a cool way to do that shout out to him what I will say if he's listening is Hove that that page hates me if you think Maybe that's why he follows my wife Yeah

It's all adding up now Right What I'd be willing to say Follow god If you think that that page Is like in support Of something we're doing up here It's it

It's not Like not at all But do what you want I mean follow you want Yeah just text That's it Yeah yeah he text you He won't text me

Anyway What else? Oh How often do we shower? Yeah I was asking how How often do you shower Pa days for sure Oh my God

Yes I'm sorry. Oh, and that. I'm in between y'all and Joe. The reason I asked that question. The reason I ask that question is because... Even if you don't leave the house? He asked the world to clean my house.

Yeah. If you don't leave the house for four days, you're showering every day. Well, there's never a day. I don't leave the house for four days or a time. But in the event that there was a time where you didn't leave the house for four days, you would shower each of the four days. For sure.

It makes me feel like I did something. Correct. Really? At least three. One thousand. Not. At least three. I'd go out of y'all.

No, it might be a quick shower. No, at least. 1,000% before I'm getting in the bed, I'm taking a shower. Your shit starts sticking to you. Unless I have sex. Speak for your shit. I'm not shower. My shit don't get you sticking in.

Oh, I'm going to say, wait, what? No, not in life. I mean, during them four days. If you put me in the house before, like during the pandemic, there was times where I was in the house by myself for a week. You think I took seven showers? You didn't smell like muscle. No, during the pan.

Now, if we talk about the. pandemic, my numbers changed. Because I was with the earthy. I was in my earthy bag. I wanted to embrace. Oh, shit. No manicures, pedicures and barbers. Oh, no wild mad.

Sorry. I'm telling you. I was not showing every day during the pandemic. I should. I think I still was. Really? We're washing mail. I'm going to watch my body too. You don't want to go to the pandemic.

I was still outside of it. White gets dirtier faster than me. That's true. That's true. I definitely would shout out. They don't get a white car. I shout it almost every day. I shout it every day during the pandemic.

Black cars also get really disgusting, but... That's true. That's true. Wait, what did you say about black cars? It's true. The reason I asked the question is because, is it Zazzy? Is it Zazzy B, too, we know from Atlanta. I love her from Atlanta.

I love her. She made a comment a while back that has been resurfacing, and so the conversation has been popping up online the last day or two, where she said that she basically doesn't buy. into the American concept of showering. She said, I actually think Americans shower too much. She's from somewhere else, I think, too. She's German maybe or something?

She said, I like a catwash, also known as a Hobart, the snowbrows. I like a catwash. I do my face, my armpits, and my... What is she used to do after that score? Intimate. Once he went to the trunk. You got a little bag of the trunk.

Niggas put a shit in the sink, then. Once he went to the trunk, you got a bat. That nigga put his balls in that little tiny ass sink. He didn't use hand soap. Every spring. Oh, the little... Hell, yeah. She said she likes to have a little scent

and not from perfuming shop. That's why he would end so much, so much sooner than me. She needs to have a little... Now it's ended before him. He said he leave and I still be in the room. He had to run... I was still going to work while that nigger was popping the trunk. It's one to stay over.

No, it stayed. This one is to stay. He stayed. Which one is it? Anyway, go ahead. I support that about her. Yeah, I support her. You all okay with a woman who says, you know, I just do quick hobat every once in a while, maybe shower once twice a week.

Let's, uh, can we differentiate between okay with and prefer? Unless she drinks Chlorfield? Because I definitely fuck some earthy hos in my lifetime. Oh, yeah, I mean, everybody, yeah. I think it's fine. Listen, you got to drink chlorfield. Clairfield eliminates body odor, so if you drinking that. Clorpe, wait, oh.

Or whiskey. Clorffield is definitely. Cloorffield is definitely. Clorffield is definitely. We're just drunk. I just never heard. I was going to ask you more about it. I don't know about it.

Clawful fill is a liquid. It comes in a bottle. And you take it in the morning, yeah. And eliminates body odor. Even if you don't shower? It helps. That sounds like some bullshit. No, it's true.

It's like, I mean, so. Even when you, you can wake up and not brush your teeth and your breath won't stink if you took chlorophyll for a month. A lot of, a lot of, oh, he's not lying. But I don't want to. I prefer to do the. Yeah. You don't know. Tell me that.

Explain it. My life skin, white brother. a lot of the vegan people. Seriously. I'm aware of some of these things that people say... You're not a redlawfield ball. Like the people that say,

I'll just try some lemon juice under your armpits. Like, no, you smell like body odor and lemons now. They don't... No, they don't use nothing. Because they say that once you eat in the proper shit.

I understand that. Your body's way of pushing the toxins out and you don't have those toxins. I've been friends with a lot of hippies for a very long time. And I understand all of these theories. The thing is, is they just smell like fruits and armpits.

I'm glad that you're healthy. And I'm glad that, like, the garlic thing is working out for you, but you smell like onions and garlic and lemons and body odor. Yeah, exactly. Oh, shit. Now, I don't care if they shower or not. I just don't want them to, I just want them to, I just want them to be able to smell it. Yeah. You guys ever dealt with some armpit hair?

Yeah. Hair? That's right. Yes. Yes. Have you ever what? Slept with a woman with armpit. Yeah, it was rough.

The earthy joint. Yeah. And I have no problem with that. I didn't. I wasn't trying to fuck an armpit, so I didn't care. Yeah, exactly. Keep the arm's down, ma. She had a terrible, she had a really.

rough smell and it was it was rough and like we hooked up one time and it smelled really bad but she was a dancer so she was working no not that kind of dancer she was I was about to say wait hold on what no like like what club was she had you know he'd be down there and Phil that was the earth dance in the neo

professional dancer dancing of black stars and I was like this don't smell right you know and then the next but she was coming she was coming you know so the next time she came over I was like you know why would you still be? Huh? Yeah he still took it down

yeah fuck on that shit go It was the first time. Then you still beat. Yes. Okay. Yeah, yeah, because we came home together. You got to turn your head the other way. And then the next time, this is like 20 years ago.

And then the next time... You don't let nobody ask the time. I have to establish the time. I do. I know, I don't play it. And then the next time it didn't smell great, but I was like, maybe she's just coming from dance rehearsal when she's not shot.

Did you beat the second time? Yeah. So then the third... That boy, Ms. don't care. That's what I'm trying to get him to get them. Just a minute. I don't think that there was much showering happening at the pyramid.

Right. At all. Oh, we did that for the shower at the pyramid. And then the third time, I said, let me meet before you go to rehearsal. You know what I mean? Guess what? Still smelt like that.

Whole way, you know. And still be visible, yo. Yeah. And after that, I just realized that this, whatever they were doing wasn't for me. I couldn't take it anymore. I did it each time. But I couldn't do it again.

I couldn't do it a fourth time. That's when, that's when, that's when as a single man, you had to up your. your, hey, I have these things on deck ready for her in the bathroom. Fire. She comes through my crib. Keep a bottle of fireball handy. Keep a Gillette.

It's insulting, man. Keep a bottle of Yeagermeister on deck. You know, how do you approach that conversation? They lie. You stink. Well, you don't. To anybody out there, if you give them some fireball, if they're a drinker, some fireball or some something that, you know, some Yeagermeister, something that smells very strong.

it blocked us If you've been in the game for long enough And you're playing that game Whatever they need They're going to say upon arrival If she need to shower When she comes in She's comfortable

She's going to ask Hey can I hit the shower first She's going to say Do you have whatever it is If you're a nigga that's playing the game And trying to be good at it At some point You wanted to have all the shit

That she may need As a single man playing the game His point is Most women that I know Before they lay down Before they lay down, they're going to ask to go to the bathroom anyway. We're not talking about them. We're talking about the other them.

So to Joe's point, Joe's saying... We're talking about it. We're talking about, man. So Sasquatch is not going in the bathroom. You got polo towels or not? Yes, she is, because some of the bitches know they stink. I would tell you to go to the doctor and go check. That's my point I'm making with him.

I told a girl to go to the doctor to check before. Long long time when I was younger. Yeah, you might be the... You got to tell him. He's in middle school. And that's why Angela said... That's not wrong. Angela, somebody, you have me, you know what?

You made some point. Yeah, you guys want to tip me toe around. You have to be, I want, if I smell bad, I want somebody to tell me I smell bad. You told me to go to the doctor, though? Because after a couple of times, I'm not doing it. You just, you smell submission in medical attention? V-V? Yo.

How? But you be wearing the shirts in the tops that don't leave room for perspiration, too, though. Who? Who? Who? You just got sort of wearing big shirts. I don't want to do this with you. How does she respond when you told her she needed to see a doctor?

She went to the doctor and said you were correct. Fam, one of my homegirls told me she had BV and it took her three years to get rid of it. Oh. What's BV? I'm sorry. She had BV Plus. Bacterial. And one of my, and this is my homegirl.

She told me like dog and she said, yo, the crazy part. Are we talking about funky vaginas now? Yes. Oh, I thought we're somebody. Yeah, I wasn't talking about vaginas. She told me niggas did not care. They did. Yeah, they're the fuck right through that BV.

What? Yo, she told me niggins. And a little bit of yeast. All of it. All of it. All of it. Oh, you're going to get it that little mayonnaise. A little fat cheese.

What's your face, nigga? Don't touch me. You wear it on? Hey, yeah. Hey, Adelaide. You were right. You was right. These niggins is he.

No, all you're going to get his little fettuccini on his chair. Yeah, real quick. You can just chucking it. Oh, she's a creamer. She's a creamer. She's a creamer. That shit might be aprodisiac. Nick, you might kind of get your shit off quicker.

Yo, niggins fuck through some yeast infection mark. Look at this green. Oh, I'm killing it. Yo. Oh, shit. That's funny. We may be the end. I'm killing shit.

Let me get my shit on. Oh, shit. You all are absolutely awesome. That's disgusting. When you ever had that little light glaze, a miracle whip on your shit from the yeast and then went to go have an uncomfortable conversation. All you did was go in the bathroom, wipe it all. Nika had no conversation after that.

Not at all. And listen, I just walked by like, I mean, it's like, look, look. I just got on my period. Look, look. That's when they come with explanation. I just got, oh, I was at Harvard last night and fuck ten guys. Oh my God. All right, ma'all, it's cool.

I understand. Holy shit I need to go home I'm embarrassed Hey Hey Hey hey You're home

Hey Andrew Roy Points were made Yeah No that's true Points were made Andrew And Tiff

And Andrew They were the girls In the pyramids Right They were the worst They had everything But that was You know

They had what Everything Everything Oh for real No elaborate It was a cult They were Yeah, everybody had sex with everybody, and the leader had a bunch of diseases.

So all the girls in there, after a while, I realized, had a lot of stuff. They didn't believe in Connobs? No. He has 182 kids. Listen, and sometimes she didn't know she had yeast before I got in there. I had to be the bearer of bad news. No more prodigies. I had to be like, yo.

Shirk that right on. Hell my. He couldn't do it. Did you smell that little? Do you smell that? Did you smell that? Did you smell that? No, anybody go deep in the oven.

Yeah, word. Word. For real. Let's go it. Yo, you know, you know what I mean? You try to talk them through it. You know, sometimes at life. You know, you're crazy.

These things happen. No, I don't. No, nigga, you tell them. Get your ass and go. Doing the shit for a bunch of chefs is crazy. Paul me, Jeff. Go to the doctor. Oh, man.

Nigger, it's a city and D. Well, that's new shit. What was back in the days? That's how you get caught up. City of D is new. It just came out. Look. Don't say that, dog.

That's you. Go to the hip center. Real quick. Question that has nothing to do with anything. else in here. Thank God. Has anyone ever put their chain on y'all for a few minutes?

Huh? What you said? No way to put their chain on me, nigga. Fuck, I look like if he's right put their chain on me. I didn't flip. I didn't.

Yeah, nigga, he tried to get me to fuck you off. I'm not, I didn't say nothing. Watch your mouth, don't. I'm just asking. Nigger ain't never put no chain on me, nigga. Berg put his chain on flip

for a couple minutes. Watch your mouth. Oh, my name. Well, you held it. He let you hold it to see the weight. Which one, the hit or the maker? Nick, Berg said your Put this chain on.

I'm not putting it off his neck and was trying to put it on yours. Was it heavy? Which inspired me to ask y'all. Yo, Joe, he'll do that. You know how to put that chain on. I know, but I want to know has anyone ever put it? What you said? It's a nice weight, daddy.

Hey, no. That's how they take me. It's heavy. I didn't say that. No, no. Your gay voice ain't bad. You get a BBL. I'm telling you, son.

Trainer already trying to give him a fat ass, he said. Oh, yeah. He was saying that. He was telling us that. He was talking it was. You said you're gonna have a shit sitting by the summer when I was younger though like I would wear a web chain when I was younger Wait, wait, hold up yeah you can't just let that baby we got cuz ice brought it up should do a little hip thrust Ish is in the gym y'all by the he's looking good

It's just in the gym is does look good he looks better He is in the gym he told me the other week that he's in the gym he has a trainer I'm proud of him so I'm not I don't have I'll pause for you yes right health as wealth help as well baby I'm not gonna clown my brother out the gym but I'm gonna clown him while he's in in there. So, so he said, well, I heard I wasn't here for this, but what did he say that the trainer, what happened? He said the trainer is trying to give him a fat ass. And he was like,

I didn't say anything on the sword. Wait, how's he offering to do this? They be making up shit. What did you say that? What'd you say? B.B. I was there, but I won't go say nothing because I didn't know you want to talk about it. But what nobody said anything of the sword. Just tell us. What happened? I was at the kitchen. I said my legs is hurting because the trainer been

kicking my ass. So I'm like, yo, she'd be having me to do all these fucking squat. Female trainer. Oh, it's a woman? It's a lady. She's behind me. Why are we surprised?

Yo, I can't believe you got that off. You got it. You got it. You got it. Light eyes is back. Yo, you niggas is a bunch of juke. Right eye girl. Hey.

Of course. You got it, boy. Of course. Yeah. That shit of fucking new. The whole time he's talking about somebody's trained, I don't know it would make sense. What's that?

Where's she from? Where's she from? She's black, you ass. Switch it up, switch it out. Yo move, yo. Get away for me, man. So my is came home. No, she'd be doing, like, having me doing all these lunges

and all these squats and shit. So I'm like, Corey, like, oh, she'd be making do it. I'm like, hell, yeah, that shit, had you not being able to walk two days later. And I was like, yo, fam, you know I ain't no baddie, right? Like, I ain't trying to get no fat ass and she started laughing. It'd be tough to walk.

Yes. Seriously. No, yes. See, they laugh. Listen, I start working out with Shannon Briggs next week, nigga, for three months. So, nigga, I'm preparing myself. Wow. You ain't going to still be in the fight. Oh, shit. You see what you did?

You see what you did? No, not. He ain't. Wait, hold on. Yo, let's get wrong. So we stopped with the hypermastrelatity. He kept walking when homie in Brooklyn was taping him. Oh, man.

Oh, true. Who kept walking? I stood right there. See, I don't want to talk about it. You did. You did. Wait. I stood right there.

You know, it's not true. I stood right there. That's not true, you're lying. I had too many people in there. You went, you went to your car to pump fake like he was getting something. That's some pussy shit that I ever seen. I went to my car and put my phones in the car because last time on the parkway, I was holding my phone's on. I said, hold on, give me a second.

But going to the car could be viewed or something else. Nothing happened. So you can't fight with your phones? Nothing happened. No, I'm not fighting with my phones. No, I understand. I watch niggas still niggas phones. I watch niggas on and so on, my nigga.

No, I get it. I get it. I get it. I got preferences when I want to get it on. No, I understand. Give me a second. By and I know his dad, too many people with me.

It was not that. You were safe. Who, him? Y'all. Hey, yo, you punk-ass, nigga. Hold up. I'll be right back. Let me go put my phone away.

He went to his car like punk faking and get to me. He put his phones up. What's your fucking mind when you took about me? Hey, don't top of that, nigga. I saw him. Shout to shit in red. I thought we got next week. Nick, all that hit and shit.

I'm going to fucking fix you, man. Hey, yo, tape it. Please? No, he's taking it. No, please, pretty, please. They're about to serve flip up, boy. I don't know how to do that. One, two, three.

I wouldn't love to do that. One, two, three, slip. It'll be tough. Oh, man, I'm a fast out watching this. That's hilarious. Yeah. Have you ever trained before? I have.

Okay, cool, cool. Yeah, yeah. Yo, back to the content that we watch when we away from here. Sure. I have been watching the street fights. Well, it's not street, the organized street fights. It's not the head gear and the gloves on. and it's a ref and I'm telling you

not that you're all too inspired this idea for me but we could do it we can do what get the head gear, get the gloves sign paperwork and have like an organized fight in the park

after the basketball game how the shit gonna look hey yo what's wrong with your man that's bad don't you know how much money we'll make no you know how much money you would make I would pay y'all stupid But you ain't gonna pay us what we want

What do you want? I'm not doing it You have to pay us a lot What's a lot? Yo My headgear? I gotta pay y'all To fucking defend yourselves

No we don't need it from somebody You're paying to beat us Yes You have to create content to yourself You have to pay us to create content That you are going to put out To 8 million people And generate income from

How much do I got to pay Let me finish talking first Be open mind I'm not close. Let me finish talking for it. Door shut, my neck. He's a baddie. The baddies of close-minded.

How much would I have to pay for us to put the gear on, pull to record, and me not put you down? One, you're not going to put these down. Because if I'm paying a lot, then I want to control the output. You got to take the dog. You got to take the dog. You got to fall. In our contract, you got to go down five times.

Quick, too. Yeah. For real. I'll pay you your work for it. I'll pay you more than Mandy. The last time I fell or, the last time I fell or, the last time I fell. for your content, I got a limp and I ain't get a dime.

Oh shit. That's a fact. That's a fact. That's not a fact. And he's going to limp off. But that's not a fact. Oh, Andy going to limp off. Look. That's not a fact. You're lying. I don't got a look.

No, you do got a limp. I know. Pause. I want to pay to put you down. You got a fall and you can pick the park. Name one of Essex County Park. That would be such a great idea. Or some of your pods

out there talking shit. We could do some type of cross-fix shit. That's more fun. That sounds like fun. Yeah, let's pick a pod to fight. Oh, whatever, man. I'm crazy. My algorithm will be having you bugging out. Anyway, what else is important or unimportant? Wasn't that business you wanted to fix?

Yeah, you wanted to fix the company. Oh, in our new segment, in our new segment, uh, help fix that fix that company. Hey, hey. I see it, then you're getting into the bed. You're supposed to such a little. Chase?

My son, shit, lit. I see you like you sit here now. I get it. Yeah. Yo, that is against the law. It's not. It is. It's not against the law.

It's against the phone. You can't just look at the people's content in their phone. Nigger, get a screen, but get the screen privacy. No, the bank just popped up with dollar signs. Get a privacy screen. I used to have that to I learned. My girl got right. My girl could see through whatever screen.

Don't get about that black shit. Really? My girl look right to the side of Texas Debrigan, huh? I was like, God damn it. That's why you guys got to go to bathroom for long periods of time. Got to take a shit and text Deborah. I'm joking, by the way. Yes.

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The founder, Nick Woodman, just wanted to film his surf trips, but no camera could survive the waves. So he built one himself and accidentally built a culture. With a $200,000 loan from his mom, GoPro was born. Small, tough, waterproof cameras.

Perfect for the YouTube era. Every athlete became a filmmaker. The marketing, genius. No glossy ads, just real footage from real, people doing crazy things GoPro didn't just sell cameras they sold adrenaline

by 2014 GoPro went public this is normally where the problems arise valuation $11 billion stock hit $98 per share Wall Street called it the next media

empire that's when the cracks began Woodman believed GoPro wasn't just a camera company He thought it could be the YouTube of action sports, but he forgot one thing. You can't sell a dream without a plan. They burnt millions on a failed media division. No strategy, no infrastructure, no audience retention.

The media empire never launched. Then came the karma drone, a rushed product meant to rival DJ1. DJI. Oh, I'm sorry. It literally crashed mid-air. GoPro had to recall every single unit, millions lost, reputation shattered. Yeah, that's it right there. Meanwhile, smartphones got better.

That's it. iPhones started doing what GoPro's did, only easier. Consumers stopped asking for GoPro's. They already had cameras in their pockets. Instead of pivoting, GoPro panicked. More models, more accessories, but innovation slowed, and customers stopped caring. Revenue tanked layoffs followed from $11 billion in 2014 to under $1 billion within a few years

that is a 98% collapse The founder's $285 million paycheck became a PR nightmare The hero who sold adventure was now fighting for survival GoPro forgot its purpose It wasn't about gadgets, it was about freedom And once the story died So did the brand

Damn. Distinguished cast, I asked you today. If you were charged with how to fix GoPro, could you come up with something and what would you do? I don't know why they wouldn't do wearables. I would do what? Wearables, glasses, necklaces, wearables. They're already popular, but the ones that exist currently,

at least that I see, are all tied to meta or some other company that I don't want to be tied to. I just want glasses that look good. that take pictures or video. That's a great idea. I would go app-based, and I would go to look to create an app or a service based on housing.

You can already record you, like I said, the phones, iPhones, all that shit can already do what GoPro does. So now we'll create a community that lives in an app, subscription-based app that could... Like Peloton almost. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. And in that app, I'll piggyback off that. Set up some sort of licensing

thing where people can now use these things as stock footage on other platforms for a fee. It's another great idea. Yeah, I think that I didn't even know wearables existed. And I had a GoPro. And one of the hard things a GoPro was, that shit will fall, you have to

hold it. Like, you might be coming down a water slide doing 30 miles an hour. You drop your shit off the side. It wasn't as user-friendly. Maybe some of the bike niggers and shit like that. It wasn't as user-friendly as people thought. You know what I'm saying? Like, I've lost them shit. They fall all that type of shit. I think that the wearable shit is fly.

I didn't even know they had that. And then I think they should emerge. I think they should emerge at the height with YouTube and one of them other people as a storage for the content and allow people to download their content there, almost like an Instagram thing. Instagram was just pictures. Great idea.

So if you could take your GoPro shit and put it in one platform so everybody could see your vacation and your adventure and you jumping off the yacht and all that shit, I think it would have been a good idea. Y'all nailed it. Y'all said everything I was thinking. Yeah, and I think that it's just... And to the merger point, right?

I'm sorry, flip, to the merger point, like, I would fucking align with people and give a GoPro angle to F1 or two. I would want to put a GoPro on, on quarterback's helmets. Any of that. This was years ago, but. And just master the durability, right? So, you know, sometimes GoPro fuck up and even,

just master it because one thing the iPhones can't do is they can't stay underwater for long, right? But they, but they may. they make the case for it. Yes, I'm saying. Everything that you could do, you can do on the phone now. But still, like, if we talk about the football helmets

and stuff like that, like Joe said, they should have a camera from the quarterbacks should be made. GoPro should have built a camera to go on the football. Exactly. Or that. But at least the quarterbacks, like that should exist anyway. Someone should do that. And with innovation,

GoPro should have been number one in the drone space. Number one. They should have been early, early, early in the drone space. Because if they would have got the drones, drones first first is we call Vaseline Vaseline because they was first

is petroleum jelly so if they would have been in the drone space first and got that under their belt then every vacation person in the world every realtor in the world because now realtors is taking a drone putting it and getting the top view of the houses and all of that shit they would have been number one

in that space and they would have got it off they should have had another department to operate as an amp if you know streaming is going somewhere you should have identified the young popping streamers that are only using GoPro. They're not using anything else to stream. You're getting these exclusive angles.

They just needed to pair, much like Lego again, whose success story I'm just in awe of, just make the right partnerships. Partnerships. The right partnerships. And innovation is key, right? You've got to know that the bigger ship is coming to bite exactly what you're

doing and that they might not be space for you in the future years. Act now. Act now. You get these executives that's comfortable in the suite receiving whatever money they receiving, no, and you still got to be proactive. To come full circle how we were talking about the other part that we were talking about,

I don't want to keep beating their horse, but sometimes you got to get with a Kassanat. And a lot of times these older white executives are looking at Kasa not, like this young boy don't know what the fuck he's talking about. I made X, Y, Z amount of money. You got to pair with some of these young people that could give you ideas. You could pair with

Flip. That could give you a different perspective because Flip is outside. You're right. You get what I'm saying? And sometimes we just diss them niggas and dismiss them. They should have stepped to Kassanat the way that Under Armour stepped to Steph Curry. Yes.

Right. Or Brandon. Yeah. Under Armour went to Brandon Jennings before even Steph Curry and shot that. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying Steph because he could have got a bag from anywhere.

Steph took the brand to another level, but they tried it. And he got the lifetime. Lifetime deal. Lytton. Yeah, I would have stepped to Kaisenet or maybe not Kaisenet. That check is a lot probably.

I had to step to Playboy Max, any of them niggas and been like Use this when you're not streaming. Early. Early. Yeah. Identify the partnerships to make sense for your company. Indeed. And lean into it. Don't be scared. Good job. Good job, fellas. I like the segment.

I do too. Yeah, that's cool. I do. Great. What else? We didn't touch music at all. It wasn't much this week. Davies dropped Karma 4, which I got about halfway through. It's a long album, so I don't have too much in-depth on it yet. Yeah, same. It's 1017, so the Goose. Gucci Man Fan knows what that date means. Yes, he dropped another album called episodes.

It's a double disc. I did not get a chance to listen to it yet. I absolutely will. Speaking of him, I did see him on Big Bank. Okay, dope. And they were asking him about the verses. With him and Jeezing? Yeah.

And Gucci was saying how he got caught up in a moment. Like he didn't go into that planning to say all of that, he said and um he was like he had to give a shout out to jizi and he respected the way he responded to it because he was like i just thinking about that moment he got turned up again and he's like had jizi would have went right after that and placed stay strapped he said this whole thing was over he said i had people with me they had it on them we was ready to go but the approach that he took it was like some grown man some grown man i'm getting money and he was like he was actually able to lower the tension in the room and he he joked about he was kind of like um

he outmatured me because Gucci was like I'm mature now so he was like he outmatured me take lessons from Gucci that's what I always try to do but yeah it was just speaking of the album it was just it came up but I like that I like that remix too Chris Brown and Usher

and Bryson Tiller yep you put me on that that join us fire I hated the intro first and seconds we could do it out yeah but once we get to it yeah what usher's killing it it depends it depends remix is out no disrespect a bad bunny oh boy go ahead go ahead they're doing this boy a disservice not having him doing the Super Bowl he did the Super Bowl already who I'm just his right oh Chris Brown that's what I say that it's just like I hate it just five I am oh and D baby tell me what you want to do with me and S-H-I-S-B-R-I-S B-R-O-W How many minutes?

No, Joe Biden. I got a call from Chris, Sam, that he wanted to do another remit. He didn't already took my hit and made another hit. Ain't that a bitch. But I said, okay. Long as I can do it my way.

Let me take you down. And realign your chakras. You can do that. No one like your tired when I'm picking you down. Do that. Fire. Fire. It's fire.

I'm the only one to lose track. Then you take a dive off from his suck and do what. I feel like to do you know your bad I'm fucking right I will I'm a freaking freaking like the one that's have a bitch to feel game I get you into my damn tells me a lot yeah you got a man

but he ain't him so shoot your shot I call this from the rip by the way know what it is they come to me all the peace of nine times that I take into my hair your ass I want to let you know I'll say I'll watch you wear I will that shit is heat

Fire Absolute fire go usher go usher the remix i was waiting for the the remix is here sounds great uh i'm probably still gonna play the original i'm playing i like the remix too though i like them both i like them both yeah i like them both not mad at it at all not mad at it the original just a little little different from me we got a summer walk a date well i've been at a date well we got a summer walk a date ass you don't think I wasn't on justice ass to get that date

almost a year what's the date? November 14 probably oh it's coming up put it in that's true

finally over it ending the trilogy um classic yeah classic before it drops yeah classic before it's out already

I cannot wait I cannot wait let me get you all a little bit of this man A little bit of this tycoon, this Todd Dollar. This is Todd Dollar, Kodak, Black, and YG. This record is called Smile, Body, Pretty Face. A lot of good strip club records on this project.

Uh-oh. I was broke and sliding in the safety. Here go. You was there, but nobody believed in me. Talk about it then. I didn't have to climb me Don't climb me But you stand and feeling with my money

Put a love But you so passy with it Never fall, never sweet, never got you did it This is going to sound so crazy live Even when I want to turn the cheese You never gave up on me We're making the same mistake, babe Now, I wish that somebody else would have came in singing, but I'm not so mad.

Yeah, I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I'm not so mad. I'm not mad. I forget sometimes what to say. Wait a minute, hey. Your smile, your body, your pretty face. Let me fuck you, baby.

This is fine Your body Hey face Let me You're like to make the whole Don't get jealous You should hide up In your present

Big let you and even try hard That card If we're talking face card To the wavehole city No no Take your time Take your time You're about to look

You're gonna kick the guarantee This dick You're about to Take your old ass down That's what you did Bro It's bomb No, no

No, no I'm bug it out I'm bugging up I'm holding I'm old I'm old Yeah Joe ass down

Oh It go Wait a minute Hey I like a few The joints on here man I like a few of the joints on here man

She's what I want, but not what I need. She's what I want, but not what I need. She's what I want, but not the one I need. She's what I want, but not what I need. She's not what I need. Let you have my bit for I let you hit my weed. She thought she got the best, but it's just good to me. Okay.

I thought I had a three-some with two sisters on the beach. She said you never find another bitch. Yeah. There's a bunch of these on here. Yeah. It's a bunch of these on here. I like, let's see, there's 15 songs, 41 minutes of music. I probably, I like probably six or seven of these.

But if I remember them, if I remember them, I'll go back to them. Like, I like these. It's an easy listen. I don't think any one of them is so memorable. Got it. The Tory record is fire. Let's see, let's see, let's see. Yeah, the Tory record is fire.

It's some heat on it. It is. It is. he'll be happy to know. He put the whole the New Toronto series on streaming finally. People, you know,

he's been dropping, people don't know. Tori's been dropping two tracks a week like from the vault from other shit for about two years now. I think he's up to

76 tracks on the lost tape, maybe another 20 on a Twitch tape, and maybe another 14 on, he's been dropping multiple projects in like every week. I want to say Tame

Impala drop too. I didn't get a chance to listen yet. But y'all know I will go and listen to him and Paul. It just didn't get to it yet. Also, in music, Carisha is accusing Tyler of stealing her record called Chanel. Okay.

She even tweets that she even tweets that she played her record for Tyler on tour. Okay. I'm going to play snippets of both of these records. You guys tell me what you think. Let me hear Caritia first. Hey me to Chanel, yeah. Take me to Chanel. Creative.

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Hey. Hey. Do you have a good feel for the record? Yes.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Actually, can you break down the lyrics for me? Alright, so what? Alright, so what part did she steal from Karisha B? The drum pattern? No. Take me to Chanel.

Oh, the word Chanel. She said put me in the way Chanel. Oh, she said the word Chanel. I got it. This is why I shouldn't have a microphone. Yeah. Or internet. You should even have internet access.

You're like the wrong podcast for that sentiment. Oh, that's true. Yeah, I mean. Go home. I'm going home. Fuck this. Do you all think that that is biting? No.

No. Just because you use the word Chanel as me, you bet off the first. Chanel's very popular. It's very. Right. Girls like Chanel a lot. It turns out. They do.

They do. Yeah, the girls do want people to take them there. Yeah, and put them in it. And put them in it, yeah. Poor Carisha. You think she believes that? Well, she said it. She tweeted it.

Like, is this like publicity or is it like I actually, because she might have played the song for her. I believe that. I think she believed it, especially if she played the song for her. I played your record and you got a song called Chanel, and she might even look at it as like you, you, and this inspired your song. The songs don't sound similar.

So you didn't steal my song, but you stole my concept. if I played you my song and now you have a song that's saying the same thing unfortunately for Carisha is tough to prove that that's your concept. Is she not saying the same thing? I also would be pretty... I'm going

out of a limb here and I don't have the facts but I'm pretty sure there's probably other songs about Chanel. Yeah, yeah. Like if it was something... If she found like some, one of these new brands or some shit and made a song about it, I would be like yeah, she might have got that. But Chanel has been a fucking mainstay

for however long. That's why y'all got to stop playing your music for people. That part too. That too. Again, if y'all started treating music like it was actually valuable, or you wouldn't just be running around playing your shit on every tour, but you could find. Anybody ever bite your music?

I'm sure. That's part of the game. But you never heard none and be like, yo, they got me. I'm sure I have. I have. For sure. It's fine. It's fine.

Easy. If you expect to have success in the game, then somebody probably stole from you before. make sense if you dope enough you'll go back to the lab and figure some shit out shouldn't just be relying on this one little slap

that you wrote anyway what else needs our attention anything else in music is there anything else in music I don't have any we got a ransom and preem single but I'll wait for the EP to go too much in depth

and we also got the Nas and Bigel single shout out to Mass Appeal again I'll also wait for the album to you. Fuck you. All right. Fuck you. Let's go.

I got to give him a little bit. Just a little bit, a little taste ball. Rans some free. What up, though? That's a hard. That's a hard. All right, all right, all right. All right, you stop, we're not doing it.

They can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that. Oh, my God. I'm like, go, Parks. And we're going to show him, plug it up, Parks. I'm sorry, you guys.

That was absolutely, you're trying to get to the 100 million. Hold up, you got to apologize to hip-hop for that. I'm sorry, hip-hop. Yeah. That's worse than Uncle George. Yeah. Yeah. You apologize.

This ain't harder when Park plays out. Yeah, my feet sound better. My style so lazy. It's so like. I'm stupid. I got style, flavor, grace, and fuss a different technique. I see you, Cren, turn me up, though. I need my vocals loud.

I got a style, play ball, grace and fucking different technique. That's a nice, that's a nice motherfucker shit. Playing ball at the ruckership. Knicker. These niggas read off a script. When they see me, they stop the acting. school shooter, green coat 45 when I'm locked a class in drunk nights, yeah. I would battle the Remy with lots of passion, lost the war knowing it never was easy to block

a captain. Lean back, soldier, you need crack, don't you? Won't let you quit, hit go and fix, just relapse, vote ya. Just that fatigue wrapped, jeans black, green bay jersey matching a team hat, you all need crack so I brought cream back. Normal Mr. Nice guy, we the owner's a street rap, it's hard to earn, my daily operation is bringing streets back. Every day I go in a booth, I load up and shoot. I step in the arena, always seen a moment in truth.

I've been a gangster. From flipping raw to prison brawes and shake scars. No need for thanks, y'all. I'm from the bottom bread with niggas a twist your top like they lock and dredge. Chestnut checkers your bishop get jumped by Rada men. Turn it up, please. Yeah.

Turn that off, please. That's all right. Frame, you shouldn't still be this hard in 2025 pause. Like, that shouldn't give me J-Rue to damage your vibes. It does. Ransom, you are so nice. You are so amazing. I said it before.

I'll say it again. I love you. And I'm honored, super honored to be a part of your earlier story. I'm super proud of you. Keep killing these niggas. Prem, you already know.

And both the reinvention, Prime and Ransom drops on Halloween. And the big L album, I've had the privilege to hear and it's really fucking good as well. Keeping the mass appeal streak alive. I've got his lick back. Yeah. Nott's got his look back.

Yeah, he did. He did. I don't look at it that way, but I feel it. He did. He did. Explain to me. Nogh was on the Ray album, and people thought he was coming at niggas, so he made it clear because Ray is his man. Y'all, I didn't use this opportunity to go with nobody.

That's not what it is. And now he's on the L verse, and he's saying some things, and he has not clarified that he's not dissing the shit out of who we think he's dissing. That's what I'm saying. Okay, okay. Got it. You think he's not? No, he might be.

He might be. I thought you were saying something else. Yeah, yeah. I'm just saying he got us look back on who he needed to get his look back on. Nause has been absolutely killing shit. Yeah. He's been on a tear. That verse on my deep album.

Both bursts. All three of them, actually. All three of them. Oh, my Lord. Between the artistically, musically, he's killing it and from the business and musically and from the business and outside of music, he's been on a fucking tear. He's doing it in the name of hip-hop and I fucking love it. Yeah, I made a round of applause.

It's impressive, man. applause from nods and what he's doing, man. In all facets. He just seems like he's in a fucking amazing place. Yeah, he's in a bag. Yeah. He's in a bag. Like all cylinders.

Yeah. Shout to nod, shout to mass appeal. Always. I can't wait to hear all of the projects that you have coming. That's all right. They're killing it, man. They big out in two weeks. Harlem's fight is returning to king.

Yep. Let me just check. I think that's it for me and music. I don't have anything else that I need to hit. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Yeah, now's not the time for Benzino's DeAngelo tribute.

But it was never the time. It was never the time. That was the problem. Benzino got some video where he was naked on steroids. And he's saying that he was inspired by DeAngelo. I'm not, I can't be mad at nobody saying they were inspired by DeAngelo. He was very inspiring. Benzino just looks funny being inspired by DeAngelo, number one. Number two, I wanted to ask you guys, is there anybody that y'all absolutely do not want to honor you after you go?

Is there anybody you do not, that you wish you don't inspire when you go? Mad people. Mad people. Like, in terms of I don't want them mimicking anything that I do. Anything. Yeah. Anything. Yeah.

You can, like, pay homage, tribute, whatever. write up a nice thing, wear it up a nice tweet, whatever exists in hopefully 50 years. But like, copy? Oh, fuck that. I don't want nobody doing that shit. I'm copy. Leave me alone. Yeah.

I'm cool. I'm most of y'all. Ish. I'm good. I'm straight. I'm not whack. I'm good with it. There's no like person in my mind, but I just don't say you were inspired by me and put out some black shit. Yeah. Yeah. That really is the gist of it all.

I'm mad at myself now wait I inspired this bullshit I fucked up I did something wrong yeah my bad let me go yeah yeah I gotta resurrect and fix it work I should not have inspired this

all right well go Benzino man yeah for sure you can't help who you're inspired this is true and in fairness he made that video before DeAngelo passed oh okay I told everybody know that

he didn't have a long time made that when DeAngelo passed I'd have been having a whole different I know the only thing he's winged up butt naked after the after DeAngelo died he made that video long time ago. Shout out to my man Benzino.

And rest of peace, DeAngelo. Rest and peace, DeAngelo. I was fucked up on small live videos and shit, man. DiAngelo's. Do we care about young, them canceling Young Boy's second show in Atlanta? I mean, I guess, another smart move. Why did they?

To a good reason. So he did a show in Atlanta. He's supposed to have two back-to-back nights. He performed a record called I Hate Young Boy off his new album, and it's a disc song. This is Dirk, Vaughn, he mentions Gucci, Little Baby, 21 Savage. Jesus. He also had Little Toomey on stage or Timmy, whatever his name is.

Little Tim, that's his people, so he's been with him. It's not like he just brought him out for this. I just want to clarify that. But he did have him on stage. Him on stage during the performance of that record in State Farm Arena. In Atlanta, yeah. Is a thing. But those don't know, Little Tim is the person who killed King Vaughn.

You know, he's from Chicago. That happened in Atlanta. so and also he was given first they said it was a key to the city but they said the actual city of Atlanta put a statement out saying no it was not a key to the city and we don't give those out that was given by Fulton County in the state of Georgia which okay cool but he was giving Atlanta's in Fulton County exactly so whatever but he was given an honor by somebody in Atlanta on stage so and now you're supposed to come back again the next night And they was like, nah, let's not do that.

Wow. I ain't matter to. Yeah, no, you got to protect you. Safety, safety. If it's for safety, security. Yeah, it's the safety. It's the same thing with Chicago. Because he was absolutely going to perform that record in Chicago.

And it's not like a record he's been doing it every stop. So he was 1,000% going to perform that in Chicago as a sign of disrespect to Dirk and Vaughn, et cetera. So, nope, we can't have it here. Because this tour is so big that some of these records. are just taking off because he's touring him. Yeah. What he's doing

without radio support like major mainstream support at all is some next level shit. For sure. And he's been doing it for years to the point where people was like, yo, what, where the fuck

are these numbers coming from? He thought it was fake. I got to respect him the same way. I got to respect Rod Wade when he came in a shout out of Rod Way. some of these new niggas that's that's changing the template of how things are done and those definitely are two of them shout the young boy shout the right way i'm old but i see what's going on yeah what you're about to say flip i say he's doing the same thing like how tech nine did it

no tech nine tech nine was no it's not the same because it's his first tour teg nine tours always all the time tech nine is a touring outfit yeah He, that's, he is a, he, they do the merch, they do the whole, I got, I understand, I got you. This is his first tour, because that's why, and that's part of why this tour is so successful. A lot of the young boy fans have never had an opportunity to see him live. He's never toured. So people are always wondering, and then again, you don't have songs on radio, your videos

ain't doing this, you're not always at the top of the billboard charts and none of this, and you're doing arenas? Let's see how this really play out. That's why I salute the tour and salute him. Got you. Because you're doing all of that and packing these, venues out every single night but again people that wait nine plus years to finally see you tour got it so again salute to him and that whole team yeah shout the young boy again like i said man everybody out there selling out tours and living their dreams and all that all that good shit

uh i really enjoyed this part i just want to tell you all that same same this was this was are we recorded yeah this was great you can't give us sitting on your phone they take y'all to Corey. Corey, that's why I love you, nigga. You don't really, you don't want to really care for me,

John. Up here, you want to eat you, nigga. Like, just other niggins. Corey, kid, you and Mark

went to the hallway, that nigga sat right there. Corey had a long to talk for me outside, Nick.

That's your fucking mama Corey. You didn't sit right there and did nothing. He didn't too,

he might be to you mindy to you let you all to each other's off. Thanks, fuck.

Don't say that all the air I wasted out my fucking lungs. Right, right. When you give advice, your shit comes like, like, scolding. You give scolding advice. Listen, your motherfuckers are stupid.

Nobody want to hear that. Your stupid motherfuckers. You want me, you have, you've been babied enough. That's why you look like Teddy Ruskwin now, nigga. Oh, shit, that's a stupid-ass. Like, a homeless Teddy Roskney. No, he's got a home. The shit that's in the stakes.

The shit that thing is threw out. And they be trying to refurbish them. You be seeing the shit, and they take the old Teddy beers up to That's why I can't say I grew up poor. I had to Teddy Ruxman and both of them watch you. And I had it were expensive? And I had the cassettes. No, they had multiple cassettes.

They weren't in the cassettes. They weren't in the cassettes. It's the toy that, you know, it's one toy every Christmas that can't nobody find so they jacked the problem. Yeah, yeah, shit like that. Oh, cabbage patches and shit. Yep. I thought my buddy. But you can stick the tape inside of them, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's the one I had I had all the fucking tapes. You

tell everybody. You knick is lucky. That's a fact. That's a fact. No, I don't though, for real, though. Like, y'all be saying that about me to play into that. I don't really tell everything, huh? Yes, you do. You don't tell me. You tell him enough. He don't tell me.

He tells more than normal. He tells 99%. He tells things you don't. Joe, look at me. He's the shit about itself. Look at me, bro. I made an inappropriate joke last week. As soon as you seen the nigger, you snitch, he barked on me.

Now I got in trouble. You tell too much shit. Joe, you told the joke in front of all of the, and Poe had it on camera. I didn't say it in front of the person I was joking about. And it wasn't on camera. That was you didn't rad. You just a rat. I control Poles at it

Why are you talking about Po? And you read it And I got barked on And felt small and inadequate It was funny though But I still felt small and inadequate Stop telling shit If I'm talking about somebody back

Don't tell them when you see him So don't tell our man Yes We used to slap you y'all Yes The fuck Now they're trying to kill Talking behind people's backs

I think that's way I don't like talking behind people's back You know that No please We didn't talk behind your back so much, nigga How many of y'all are here talking about my back? How many of y'all?

Point them out. Point them out. I don't have that many fingers. My man, Trey didn't, Imani did. I never spoke to my son about you. And my nigga Morgan. But that is, I'm talking about to say, nigga. Freeze didn't.

I got to sell that. That's on the cue, though. Anybody in here that I haven't talked about, flip wit behind his back, it's coming up. It's coming up. Yo, my thoughts and prayers go out. to anybody that was parked in that garage that collapsed in the Bronx.

What garage collapsed? I thought it was a building. No, it was a garage where cars parked. Well, it was a building, but it was a garage. Where cars parked in. Like a big garage. It's like a house garage garage garage garage. A huge garage and it just landed on people's cars.

Some niggas was going to their shit and it just couldn't move. It's fucked up. Jel to them. The Bronx got to fix that shit, man. The incinerator part collapsed in the building. The whole shit came up, came down. And now someone with the Bronx

My main niggas is going to be like, yo, my car was parked in there too. Yeah, I'm going to park my shit right now, nigga. I'm going to park my shit right now. I'm going to my shit going to hear. Speaking of the Bronx, did you all see J-Lo say that her relationships fail because men weren't capable of loving her? I didn't see that. Can I'm accountability.

Oh, shit. I'm with Jay-Low. Do you really have experienced loving someone? Yes. You have? Yeah. And when you can't get that love back. What I learned, it's not that I'm not lovable.

is that they're not capable. They can't love. They don't have it in them. They need to appreciate the little person inside of them. They have little together. And they gave me what they had. Right, but it's not enough.

They gave me all of it. Every time. But it's this much. All the rings, all the things I could ever want. Right. Try to give me the houses, the rings, the marriage, all of it. But. They didn't love you.

They didn't. And didn't know you. And I didn't love myself. He's doing a lot of talking about. Because you're from the Bronx. A.I. Let's load it up. That better be A-I.

Yeah. Why you keep saying, let's load it up. Let's load it up. M-M-M-M-M-M-M-A-M-M-A-M-M-A-M-M-A-M-M-A. I don't know if that's A-I-I-I-I-I. I don't know if I say I-A-I-I-E. Yo, don't worry about my phone. Don't worry about my phone.

So you want us to fact-check if it's Cox-Sources first. That was Howard. I don't know. Are you saying this AI because you can't believe anybody would actually think like that? It sounded funny, but, yeah, she didn't make sense. because it's J-Lo. That's what I'm wondering. That's what you're saying.

It's a video of J-Lo on Howard Stern. I'm old, so maybe I'm falling for cocks horses, but it looks pretty real of me. Ish, but she's saying that you give her whatever you want, but you don't love her. She didn't say nothing about... She said they gave me everything but they didn't know who I was.

They said they gave me everything. That's how I fell a lot of times when I was in love. She said they gave me everything I wanted. She said the houses, the cars. She didn't say nothing about encouragement, support. Isn't that just lyrics to...

About my love don't cause of things? That's the literally what I think you got to buy me ice? You don't. I think I need to spend your cash? I don't. She's been. She's playing the lyrics. That's all it was.

Oh, cause. That's funny, yo. Yeah, me a little. Nick, itch, what you do with J-O, nigga? She don't care about your houses, but. No, this is real. This has been confirmed by multiple news sources. I tell you, how are you?

White ones. What I was telling him was real, but. Take you. Nice to meet you. You would tell J-Lo that you're taking. For sure. Not now, what would you tell her later?

I got what you- You'll meet me in the back. Initially, we all, yo, Ma, come on. I never disrespect my union like that. Come on. Come on, I got a girl getting married.

That's my everything. That's my baby, my love of the death. She was there with me. I had two doors. Hour four into the phone. One conversation doors. What would you say later when she text you?

What would you say when you get on that? That I ate you. That I was what I'm saying? Hour four. into the phone combo. When you get on 80, when you get on 280, away from your girl. Two 80, damn, you're far. You're an honorable man, bro. Thank you. I appreciate it.

Appreciate it. I appreciate that. Me too. You all are. Bitches can't get me away. I'm saying, thank you for help. You honorable too. That's why I just post me and my girl. You got to fuck us both if you want me. Girls want you more, you post your girl. That's why I do it. I mean, and I love it.

Anytime I post my girl, the girls I've been waiting for the DM, he hit me. That's a joke. And if y'all don't laugh, it's going to sound serious. And my girl, and my girl listens. Pretty far. A-ha.

What they say? I'm joking. Don't nobody hit me. Don't even get me started. Nope, nope, nope, no, no. Nope. Nope. I don't have anything else that I need,

that I need to get off. I have anything else that's super important to me. All right. You did it, y'all. It's great. I'm agreeing with the boss Mark ate a fucking snack

And then he just crashes out It's like a sugar eye It's like a sugar cook I told you if I eat chicken or sugar It's a rap Really? Yeah, both Man

I had a piece of chicken And two slices of sweet potato pie You're all killing me up here See, in my old jobs They gave healthy food But since I've come up here Y'all are destroying my diet Heathens

Well it's a shame Go home They got vegetables home Go home Oh shit Well you've been black listed in blackballed from those positions. So we can get those shepherds pie now, buddy.

That's sweet potato pie it is. You can't cherry pie. Motherfucking macaroni. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Um. It's a beautiful night. It's part of the showtires.

Motherfucking heating up. Yo, I'm changing the Patreon prices January 1. Don't say I didn't tell you. I left enough time for you. to have Thanksgiving, Christmas, Halloween, birthdays, New Year's Eve, even. Because that's December 31. You're just going to do that to the fans?

But January 1, yes, inspired by you in your $100 tier. And the success that you've been having behind it. Lowering the prices for the fans. That's real good. January 1. I would never do such a thing. Yeah, the prices are changing on Patreon. Fans, if you don't want you.

I think that's dope. Hosts. No, it is dope. Lower the prices. The fans love that. They deserve it. All in your fans changing the prices. Come on over the mark of my hill.

Come on over here, this dark one. And you know if you change the price of a 10, it automatically charges, though. Listen, the Joe button Patreon price will be changing January 1. And if not, that means I had a bunch of fun, December 31st, and it will change January 2. Oh, shit. Yeah, no, but we're going to get to it. Shouts of tears, man. What else is there?

What else is there? I'm straight. Anything else I can say for Patreon. I'm all right. All right. I might talk some more shit on Patreon. I ain't going to lie. I don't feel right doing the right thing.

I don't feel right doing the right thing. Also, yeah, we do have a, come on, come on, talk about it, Freeze. Before we get out of here. Before we get out of here. We got a special treat. We do, we do. I want to give a shout out to my man, Victor Solomon. Okay.

Artist, designer. shit, I don't know. Sculpter? Sculpter, everything. He's the gentleman that made. The Knicks ball we have on the table, we all also have basketballs as well. We do.

I love my Knicks ball. We are, the Laker ball is fire. We are blessed with the presence of the new and improved. Official. Official. This is the real one. The real one. This is the one that the Knicks will be holding soon.

It's the closest the Knicks going to come to the world. Real deal. Larry. O'Brien Trophy. That's fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, can I hold that? Pause.

Yeah, that's the closest. That's the closest. Yeah. Ooh, let me ore farm right quick. On some Tatum shit. I'm about to do the Kobe. Do the Kobe shit. Do the Kobe.

I got to, man. I be hugging my. It's beautiful. What? That shit is amazing. Yo, you designed that. What material is it? It's all gold.

We make that one with Tiffany, but we redesigned the whole collection. He says it's all gold, man. Come on over here. Oh, my God. Y'all want to touch it? Stop saying these things. Yo, please stop saying.

And yes. Oh, you're going to cut the mic. Oh, shit. That's going to look heavy. Right, right, right. We do what happens to there? Oh, yeah, good, good. Oh, man.

Wow. Damn, I took Parks, Sherry. That's crazy. What an honor. Yeah, everybody starts their first episode. We'll work our way up. But a few years back on the occasion of the 75th anniversary of the league, we've redesigned all the trophies, including Larry Bryant Trophy.

And we continued to produce that with Tiffany, but the biggest thing that was important to me is on the base, we engrave all the previous winners. So every year's trophy is not only a celebration of that year's victor, but... Those that came before. Exactly. Exactly. So paying homage to all the...

the people that came before. So that's not that many Knicks. I ain't found the Knicks yet. I see Laker, Laker, Lakers, Sixers, Lakers, Warriors, First. Nobody asked y'all to read. This thing is beautiful, though, man. When you look at the trophy on TV, you don't get to see all the descriptions of all the different teams and won the championship. Or the detail.

It's beautiful, man. This is great. And frankly, that was part of the story that we were trying to tell is, like, those intimate Easter egg moments that only the champions get to experience. So those sort of special things. and then on the underside we have the final script so when that moment does get to happen

and hopefully your boys get to hoist that up. They won't. They will. They'll get that little splash of the finals behind it. Wow, that looks dope underneath, yeah. Yeah, try to see it. That is absolutely stunning. That is absolutely stunning. My question I have for you,

because I used to be an athlete, I got a triple double at Oak Hills back in the 90s. But my question to you is, you get a discounted, Tiffany's I need to make some calls about that actually I never

taken them up they did a phenomenal job with this yeah they absolutely killed it this shit is amazing man

look at you ready to go to Yukon and do something he remember the video he remember the video he didn't have been one of them huh

I saw the video yeah my man freeze freeze at the connect if you didn't break your knee on a finger roll

you you had a right future it's deceptively heavy as I said that's how to get up the head to you that's for athletes and people that work out freeze shut up but that really gives you the perspective I mean remember that that shot of LeBron where he's holding it with one hand out like this like these guys like it's a wine glass yeah different level oh yeah that is true all right to be able to hold that shit with one hand like that yeah your little your little gym run ain't that thank you your thumb though you might go

That shit is heavy as her. Don't break it because we can't, we can't afford to replace that motherfucker. No, no, no. I said that shit right there. Kobe was up. The Kobe moment. Yo, this shit dope.

Yeah, I'm trying to wheel us back to greatness, you know what? It's not going to happen. No, that's right. All right. You can give it back to him now. You're going too crazy over there. That thing is nice, though. Thank you very much.

That's fire. And the design is crazy. So, yeah, I was about to say, where the idea come from? That's just all you? Collaborated with, obviously, collaborated with the league and the approach to all the trophy stuff, but really, it was just, again, like I was saying, these guys are in the gym since they're 10 years old in chasing this object, this moment. So to have the extra symbolism, the canonization of the previous winners for those things to last on, felt like a really important contribution to it. So glad I got to bring it up here and share with you guys. Likewise are we.

Likewise. And it should be another great season. You do the other ones, too. You do like the in-season, all that, right? Yep. In-season tournament, MVP, all my babies out there. Kobe Bryant Award. Mm-hmm.

Do you design rings? Yeah. Yeah. Trying to get into rings more and more. His ring is nice. Wedding rings? Look at his ring. Yeah, if anyone has any weddings coming up, that might be room.

Invement rings, yeah. Yeah, me and free is going to talk to you. I ain't doing it. I ain't doing it. I ain't going alone. I ain't going alone. Me and Frie is going to talk to you about it. I'll get you guys lined up.

That's fire. That is fire. Thank you again for bringing that fire. That is fire. I'll see it at the garden in June. Soon enough. On the screen. What's happening?

It's concert? Yeah, they put it on the screen. They put it on the screen. That's crazy. Y'all swear y'all so damn funny. That shit is dope, dope. You got it. All right.

Got the net on it. You got to be in a gym for that. Look at that bad, boy. I told you it. That's why I was like, I ain't had it. I didn't want to break it. Yeah, no, you gotta get up. That shit.

Hey, you don't want to leave it right there? It's got dressed. You come get it in like June. Leave it there till May or June. You're making me want to grab my Chelsea boots again, man, getting that bag. Grab my old Durango. Sway jacket. That's how I'm...

Oh, man. Such a great show. It is. Great show. No, no. Yeah, put it up. Put it up. We're ending.

Take my mind. Real good show today, man. I appreciate everybody. You guys are awesome. Hey, hey, hey. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. It's me. That's right. Thank you. Thank you all for listening, man.

Until next time we bid you a do. Farewell. Adios. Irichie. O'Ster-Livista. Arvois. So long and bye. Our simple head now will suffice.

Hey Remember life is a series of moments and moments past So let's make this one last as if it's all we have And last but certainly not least The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel And the closed-minded women want you to teach them things Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it Until next time

All right, come on, come on, what's the weekend vibes? What's the weekend by? Y'all know where I'm at tonight. Y'all know where I'm at tonight. We're celebrating part of the birthday. We're outside. Hey, you know what I mean? Happy birthday parks.

Happy birthday parks. I will be at the shindig early and late. Right before you, the street. White Street. All right before hitting me. What y'all doing this weekend? The rest of y'all, what up? What up, what up?

Filming, working. Working, traveling. That's it. Same thing. What you have, Mark? Trying to sneak back. Houston and then trying to fly back early tomorrow night that slide through parts of the spot.

Try to move some things around. They can happen. Doing my best. Fire, fire. Get the PJ. There you go. That's a Joe button question. No, no, no.

Joe going to be there. No, go home like your friend told you, dude, nigga. One person got a PJ, that I know. And it ain't at home. Is what you are, man? What you are this weekend? Go to my man, my man's party, you know what I'm man? It's what you want this weekend?

Work every day, Joe. Every day? I do. Treat yourself. No days off? No. You got to get rid of. Try to get more Travis's, man.

I'm tired. Yeah, yeah. The traffic scene is expensive ones. Yeah, he's going to the ball. The blue one, I got to get the blue ones. Why don't you take off and dipping your savings? And do what? I don't even have a savings.

Treat yourself. Dipping your 401k, man. Go under the bed, get the box with something. I'm about to say, you know, he's still got the shoebox under the bed. Call the Portuguese banks. Tell him the transfer someone has shit over. We got a big move this weekend. That's what you got to do.

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