The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 874 | "Miley & Molly"

Episode Date: November 1, 2025

The latest episode from the JBP kicks off with Halloween 2025 before turning to new music in which we have new albums from Big L (40:10), Lloyd Banks (45:55), Westside Gunn (48:00), and DJ Premier & R...ansom (49:05). Offset drops a new project as the room reacts to lyrics aimed at Cardi B and Stefon Diggs (52:38), Joe addresses Ish over an AI song from last episode (1:13:14), and for the first time in three decades no Rap song ranks in the Billboard top-40 (1:37:05). Also, the JBP reacts to Suzanne Somers' husband creating an AI model off of the late actress (1:57:04), JAY-Z vs. the field in a Verzuz (2:10:48), Amanda Seales weighs in on a new series being executive produced by Keke Palmer (2:19:50), Joe reacts to licensing your likeness to businesses after the release of a new ADIDAS shoe (2:30:19), Sydney Sweeney's appearance at Variety Power of Women event (2:52:54), Ty Dolla $ign's first-week sales lead the cast to discuss his career moving forward (3:10:54), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Enjoy the show. Yeah. Girl. Yeah, you talk. You're in trouble. How about that? You can talk. Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:34 What's up, everybody? How's that? Nobody can talk because I got that's on. Feeling good. Feeling good. Mike's it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. Even though it was yesterday, but still. So what? Halloween weekend. Character day. The whole. And look, look, for the hose,
Starting point is 00:00:53 Halloween lasts all weekend. That's true. And maybe next week. Yeah. So happy Halloween, y'all. We just, We just told y'all two weeks ago we don't celebrate this shit. Now look at us.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Look at a bunch of doofs. Y'all did not take that well. You're so upset. Took my little fast-ass right to Abercadabra the other day. Lying around the block and nobody clearly knew pump it up. Last minute, ass, niggins. I was standing outside just in the rain. Old-ass security guard looking at me, just blowing cigarette smoke in my face.
Starting point is 00:01:28 It was a real one. It was a line outside Yes, it was a line five blocks around the corner Oh yeah, yeah, you can't wait till last minute You can't, right? But then something happened in the store
Starting point is 00:01:38 and they needed him to go inside Stuck right there's lit Got right up in there So he needed y'all to go inside there Got right up in there Did my thing Did my thing up in the Africa Dabra Shout to everybody listening
Starting point is 00:01:50 For Halloween Anybody outside right there Yeah Yeah Yeah, yeah It's popping Listen I can't talk So I'm gonna get right to it
Starting point is 00:01:58 y'all got me in this mask y'all get the intro and y'all get a thumbnail and I'm taking this shit all got a migraine yeah your eyes look all crazy god damn mark ain't moved
Starting point is 00:02:14 I can't breathe in his joints look at Mark Myers look at Mark Myers over there oh shit freeze what's there who you is a black ninja I thought you was I thought he was being it in it when he was in his 30
Starting point is 00:02:28 Oh shit The karate phase Yeah Oh shit He made red belt Yeah It should be here shortly Hopefully
Starting point is 00:02:42 I'm sure he probably Won't dress up Yeah It should be here at some point I think you got to He got to do this shit He got to do this shit No
Starting point is 00:02:49 Oh yeah No I did enough Halloween's here To know how people do I went in there And bought mass for all I wasn't playing with them this year. No,
Starting point is 00:03:00 service. So we got masks. In the name of Ice, man. The Ice came prepared. We left to make you last year. Yeah, yeah, y'all left me on the limb last year. I got you this year. And this year, I was like, you know what? I'm not even taking the change of clothes. I said, yo, I'm the only one. I'm the only one. Fuck. I packed the change. I wish you would have texted me, bro, because I would have dressed that with you,
Starting point is 00:03:16 bro. This game. You know, I text you, you don't text back. I'm working on. Oh, shit. She's the worst text her in. Ever. On the whole team. Yeah, no. She don't text back. At all. And she'll read it. Never.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And she got a rubber seat on. Oh my God, Corey, not you too. Noah is only saying that he'll text back because I literally text him four days ago. He still has a text back. Mauna, I don't think you're texting the right number, baby. Oh, shit. Okay. Because I'd be texting you like and like to check on like your mental health.
Starting point is 00:03:46 And you just leave that shit like. She don't give a fuck, bro. She got seven phone numbers. Stop it. Stop it. Well, then there's that. And I was checking on you because they tried to, you know what I mean? but...
Starting point is 00:03:57 Okay. If you're against guns, consider this. Gun violence kills 30,000 people each year. So they should take away our guns, right? Car crashes kill 55,000. Should they take away our Asians? Oh, shit. Yo.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Yo. That's a good one. Oh Yes, sir I'm sorry if you can't hear me Yeah, it's all good I can't hear Oh shit
Starting point is 00:04:39 That's it That's ish Y'all That better not be ish Oh, this is my man from jail too He knows true Damn I'm not dubbed the jail call
Starting point is 00:04:51 God damn I'll call you back Yes sir! Move with the mask on. Mark Meyer. The video is scary. It was a scary Mona. Well, you were little?
Starting point is 00:07:09 You were on a wet block. Yeah, word. It should have to look familiar. It was a little head close to home. Yes, sir. We have a good time today. The applause, girl, for the best crew in the word. Oh my God. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:08 What episode is this? 874. Welcome to episode. Episode 874 of the Joe Button podcast, brought to you by a few by Power by Pride Fix. Price is gang. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here. Host Joe Button, Heel, some really amazing people to my right. Listen, y'all got about two.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Actually, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, enough. You did, you did it. You did it. You did it. Mark is sitting there. You ever, like, try to put your cat or dog in an outfit or something when they just sit there looking stupid? Oh, my God. That's exactly how you float.
Starting point is 00:10:41 this entire intro. Yeah, he's just sitting there like. Oh, what a whole new world. Like you're gonna punch me. From under that damn mask. Oh, we can take them off? We can take them off? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:52 You can take that off. I just lifted mine up. Whoa. The things we do in the name of content, I tell you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But last year we left Freeze out to dry. I appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:11:03 I wasn't going to do that this year. I'm here with you freeze. I told them niggas to bust the glass in abricadabing when they ain't know who Joe Button was. was looking at me like I was in there trying to steal shit. Because in the daytime, I walk out looking like that. I walk out looking homeless.
Starting point is 00:11:18 It's a trick. It's a trick. Does it work? Does it work? Does the trick work? Does it work? They ignored me like they would the homeless. Good.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Yeah, no, but I had a good time in there. Good to see everybody. Good to be here today. Likewise. To my right, you know the fucking vibes. Racking up the tardies, I tell you. Racking up the Tarties, I tell you. I tell you.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Make some noise. Don't call white girls. And let me put some respect on that. It's the part of the month. Huh? Part of the month. If you don't know, if you didn't know. I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Thank you. Thank you everybody. First month on the gig. I don't even know if it's been a full month. And you take potter of the month. How do you feel? It's exciting. You have a speech for the people that voted for you out there?
Starting point is 00:12:11 First of all, to all my supporters that came over here with you. me, I appreciate y'all. Me too. That's the only funny, because it's true. To the people that had no idea who I was and enjoyed me, I'm so glad that you like me. I do.
Starting point is 00:12:32 You're happy to have you. Yeah, and yeah, I just appreciate it. Like, you know, it's exciting. Oh, you don't do well with vulnerable. Now I can talk shit in the break room a little more. Thank you so much. The break room is just right there. And I have you winning next month too.
Starting point is 00:12:50 No. Mark says differently, but what does he know? Honestly, when I was seeing it, I thought that that was just something that like the communities do. I didn't know it was like a thing. I mean, the community votes, but we take it very seriously because we led a community. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:13:03 That's exciting. Okay. Next to Mona, or used to be part of the month, many, many months ago. It was really impactful, back. I don't know what's been going on. He let him money take two from him. He let him take him from me. He let him money take two from him.
Starting point is 00:13:23 He'll be chilling already. You was like celebrating. He's done new shirts. Five in a row, man. I ain't need no shirts in a while. It's okay. Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, is in the building. How you feeling, Mark?
Starting point is 00:13:35 I feel good, man. I feel good. I feel good. Good. Glad to have you here. Of course, next to him, you already know the vibes. Your favorite potter's favorite potter.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Mr. fucking take your. further. Big freezes in the building. What's going on? How are y'all feeling? Real good, real good. How you doing, man? I'm great. I'm great. Good, good. Glad to be here, ready to get the pot. Now, you are prepared for, if you see somebody while you're in this outfit
Starting point is 00:13:57 for them to try, for them to try you out. I was just thinking that. You got to be prepped for that. He's got the shirt still on, too, so it kind of, you know what? And he's in the gym. Could be a little goat. Stop, bad, because I did court a day, and I can't laugh
Starting point is 00:14:12 because my stomach hurt like a motherfucker. Yeah, you did. that core and you might when nobody by not yeah they're gonna test
Starting point is 00:14:18 that core out no worry about it they're gonna see how much core you did good to have our good brother freeze with us
Starting point is 00:14:25 last but certainly not at least not even last we got some type you took the horns off I did
Starting point is 00:14:29 yeah they're they're tight they are they are they are so I'm like the beast or Prince
Starting point is 00:14:37 Charming or my Yakubian self yeah I mean like a little mix of all three I like it
Starting point is 00:14:42 I like like a gay pirate devil. A gay pirate devil is so spot a way. But you're looking good. I'm glad all of us were feeling festive today. Everybody looks amazing.
Starting point is 00:14:56 We got big Paul in the building. Paul, you don't do the Halloween shit. Why y'all think because y'all ain't on camera, y'all ain't like the rules don't apply to y'all? Should have. Thanks. It's good. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Should have. Yeah, that's when people take an accountability don't feel good when they do it too fast. Right. Like, no, let's soaking it for a second. What? We got Big Corr in the building. Erickson's here.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Erickson is here. Big Juice is here. Savon and Tanna are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys is here. Iss is on the way here, I think. Probably he probably had to stop by the Abergibber or Spirit Halloween. Probably so.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Most likely. I anticipate him being dressed to the nines. Yeah, I can't wait to see it. Shout to flip our good brother here with us in spirit. What's Papa? What's Papa? What's Papa? How we doing, man?
Starting point is 00:15:45 Feeling great, man. Happy Halloween. Happy Hoverim. Happy Hary. Happy Character Day. Yes. Character Day. Character Day is better. Character Day. Happy character. Oh, my Lord. Politically correct. I want to encourage everyone out there to be careful. Safe. For sure.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Safe. Safety first. You know what's funny. Do kids still do mischief night? Remember that? That's a jersey question. Adults are doing it. Why do you say that's a jersey question? It's a Jersey thing. Oh, New York City doesn't do mischief night?
Starting point is 00:16:15 I think that's a jersey question. of Jersey and then Michigan's got Devil's night. Philly definitely did Michigan night. That's all we used to do. We did that more than Halloween. We celebrated that but not Halloween. I mean, we toilet papered and egged in all that shit. We did mischief night. We just didn't call it. It was just Halloween.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Was it always the night before? Because that's what the mystery night was the night before. Maybe they did in New York. Upstate, they did not. We just toilet paper shit. Smoked weed and got drunken. So if you're being mischievous, be like reasonably mischievous or devilish. Don't break nobody's shit.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Yeah, don't break nobody's shit. Yeah, don't break nobody's shit. Missing night's been canceled for 10 years. You're gonna be sitting in there for a week. Then find out. I hope that I can run my door with that mischief night shit. It ain't called. Mischief Life,
Starting point is 00:16:55 nah, Mischief Night anymore. It's just life. Right. Life is just dangerous and risky. Seriously. Every day. So please try to make it home to your families and eggs are expensive.
Starting point is 00:17:06 That's the goal. Making it home. I don't think people throwing eggs, no. They're throwing shit and they stealing shit. I told you last shit. Two years ago they stole my Benny Hanna. Huh?
Starting point is 00:17:15 And I chased these kids. Yeah, they stole. Your leftovers? Uh-huh. You had Uber-Eats at the door. It was $200 worth of a Benny Hanna. I hate when that happens because you'd be mad hungry. And I ordered it.
Starting point is 00:17:26 It was like the last thing before they closed, so nothing else was open. And I was in Maplewood and my mother-in-law's house. Yeah, I left $200 with a fucking Benny Hanna. And I heard a car speed off. So you know what I did. Chase them? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Mark, you chased her. So what happened? I chased him down one block, chasing down three blocks, and I ain't no Maplewood. Then I made a laugh and suddenly didn't look like Maplewood no more. Apparently I was in Ivy Hill. Then I went to the back of some house
Starting point is 00:17:52 and it didn't look like the projects and his name's like who you're looking for. And I was like nobody. You could have that little volcano onion. There's like some soy sauce sauce. I got the fuck about it. Once I saw where I was like it ain't worth it but I was definitely chasing him for a while.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I was like that Mark is crazy. I was like, ain't nobody from Maplewood still in my fucking Benny Hunter. I was going to say, my wife last weekend ordered Uber Eats at like 4 in the morning and when I went out to get the mail in the morning, it was just sitting there.
Starting point is 00:18:16 So I was going to say, did you just not go out and get it and fall asleep? No, I was ordered Halloween candy. I didn't even fall asleep. It was like maybe 10 minutes. It was like to fight 10 minutes. And it was just going with it. I'm sorry that happened to you.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I was very upset. And I'm glad you were safe. Yeah, I'm glad you said fuck that food. I wish I caught them before they got the day little housing project. Even after 11 is dangerous. That's a fact. Or it can be. I'm just so curious and I'm also envisioning
Starting point is 00:18:41 you attempting to put a nigga in the fool Nelson and trying to get the Benny Hana out there. What you got there was like, Nickle, give it up. He's got rage. I don't have rage, but it's the principal sometimes. It's the principle.
Starting point is 00:18:53 We've seen the rage on Ken. That wasn't rage. That's anger. I'll pop a nigga over his fucking shit for our rice too. Fuck it. My wife gets mad at me. Anyway, we talk about another time.
Starting point is 00:19:03 But yeah. I don't like people steal my shit. I don't think none of us like it. You ever was ordering something and you catching the restaurant at the very last minute and then right it. you about to press in,
Starting point is 00:19:15 here go, your girl. Oh my God. Can I see the menu? I'm hungry, too. And now she's going to take 90 years, the restaurant closed, and now you're both starving.
Starting point is 00:19:26 And now you eat McDonald's. Yeah. That story in my life. I don't even tell her to them why I just order some shit. For her too? Yeah, that's smart. Yeah, smart.
Starting point is 00:19:34 So where you're going to get some shit? Tricky, because she normally orders better than me. But either way. It don't matter what you order with me because when my food gets there, she wants my food. That's true, too. Yeah, food.
Starting point is 00:19:44 taste better. What the fuck does that mean? My blood pressure went up just hearing you say it. I swear to God your food does taste better. And our sweaters, sweatshirts feel better. It don't matter. We order the same thing. We can order the same pasta dish. Y'all's have more crab in it. It's always like that. I have to take yours and make sure
Starting point is 00:20:00 you're okay. No, y'all are crabs. How am I going to know if it's poisoned or not? If I don't taste when I start doing this at the table, it's poison. It's crazy because all that shit they say of our women, not not knowing what they want to eat,
Starting point is 00:20:16 acting, confused, being crazy when they're hungry, it's all true. Thank you. It's all true. We're psychotic. It's good to hear that. When it comes to food, yeah. It's good to hear that.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Yeah. But if you know that, why you can't just pick the restaurant. Because when we pick the restaurant, it's I don't want that. Right. That's why. When I say pick the restaurant, I mean pick five.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I'm glad you owned that. I mean, it's true. But it's awesome. And I'll own everything the girls say about dude Instacard deliverers. Oh, they're muffling. They're right. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:20:49 You all right. This shit will turn. I'll say it. Going somewhere else, okay? Because that's sensitive. That shit ain't funny. Yeah, no, it's true. When we get male Instacard drivers, it's instant rage.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Instant frustration. I promise you all, it's a video on my phone right now with me going to the supermarket, looking out for out, finding my Instacard guy and taking my shit from him. I promise you. I had the video. And I posted it, but I posted it too fast, and the address was on it, so I had to take it down. But I promised you it was funny as shit.
Starting point is 00:21:20 And he just in the aisle, lost this shit, in the fucking silverware, plastic, looming for you, looking for asparagus. I'm like, dog, what the fuck are you down here for us? No paper tiles on the list. And I'm like, I'm demona. It's me. It's like, hi.
Starting point is 00:21:36 You're doing a bad job, sir. Horrible, bro. He was there for two fucking hours. I had 10 things. Y'all suck at the supermarket. We do. Why? You know it's big signs in the sky
Starting point is 00:21:46 That tells you where the stuff is Man, that should take too long Like, all right, this look like it It's close enough here You know, they replacements be ridiculous Look at this replacement I order, I always keep it moff I ordered gummy bears
Starting point is 00:21:56 And they were out of them Look, let me Look what he replaced it A macchiallo Hot That's really all it is I'm not even joking I ordered fucking
Starting point is 00:22:10 Albanyes gummy bears And he replaced it With a Starbucks macchiato I promise you That's how it is They were the same price. When I asked them why he did, he said, when they both 379, and they both got sugar in it.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Damn. I think it made an executive decision. That is real. That is real. But if I had seen them in person, you're to rage a little. Oh, my God. I wanted to beat the dog shit out.
Starting point is 00:22:32 That is real. Well, it was the same price. He said, they both $3.79 in sugar. Yeah, like, what's your problem? That's crazy. Oh, my God. I loved them. I keep it simple.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I just get waters and heavy shit that I don't want to carry, so. And I'm sure women is the girl. ladies make mistakes, but it's not to the volume of that shit. My last Instagram guy had his wife with him. So they nailed that shit. I don't play that. Don't pull up as a couple.
Starting point is 00:22:56 They like to pull up as a couple. They like to pull up as a couple. It was a car driver. You know he'd be coupled up. No, I wouldn't. Hopefully she should be getting an old bag. We both can't be in here. Getting an Instacart bag.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Go. Litter Uber or something. I don't like when they pull up as a couple. It's weird. Even though I understand it, you know, broke unity. But. What? Yo.
Starting point is 00:23:21 I do. I get it. Holy shit. Go, dog. I'm in pain, you. But I don't like that shit. His only buddy because it's true. I used to deliver pizzas with a dick before.
Starting point is 00:23:33 There was some broke-ass judy. I used to be like, go off. Then say hello. That's why you got $3 last time. Start saying hello, good night. He was coaching him? Fuck you're right. This motherfucker had no social skills hitting.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Not going to door. a piece of walker. I'll be like, tell that motherfucker have a good day. I'm living pieces with a nigga. I'm not playing. I can't stop telling my business up here. Yo, if you're listening to this broadcast as an adult and your child is still sleeping, go check on that little motherfucker. I mean, maybe we didn't search the candy as great as we don't show. Hey, maybe they did sneak that fentanyl in the sneakers.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I promise y'all the comments and, like, feedback when we, did talk about that before it was like where are y'all from that doesn't happen I'm like it's to be on the news to check the candy that's one of them urban legends we got to alter the problem in America it probably is a herbal legend honestly it probably I'm curious as it ever happened where somebody was poisoned from Halloween
Starting point is 00:24:27 that's a good question it had to happen once this is America everybody tell that story I didn't even met nobody that got razor blade in their candy and there been nobody who had no drugs and they snickers you remember you used to hear at the gas station they put needles on the on the handle oh yeah it's all bullshit yeah it's just a scary
Starting point is 00:24:43 You flash a light, somebody going to kill you. You know what probably has happened? Some dummy gave a kid an edible or a shroom by mistake. Oh, I'm sure that happens. That's my fear right. And I have been around for, I'm letting you get the shit off, but I've been around for people putting shit in the candy. Okay, see?
Starting point is 00:24:58 And it popping up on the news for multiple years. There you go. Like, I just don't have that much trust in the community. I don't have that much trust in the news. We just be right. No, that too. Fear, that part. That part.
Starting point is 00:25:10 That too. Yeah. Yeah. I know my neighbors. It ain't like back in the day where your mama used to rely on your next door neighbor to beat you if you was doing something bad. This ain't them days no more. No. The neighbor now is racist and got a bullet shotgun hole in the door for when you act up.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And the Trump sign. Go ahead and play. And they're raising racist kids. You want to give them a twizzler. Nope. I wish I would give one of you racist little white bastards to a twizzler. I think worse than the razor blaze is when you used to get like Bible verses or pencils or some bullshit like that. That's the real.
Starting point is 00:25:41 That's the real. I got kids. Real bad. It's hell, bro. Raisins. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:46 The box of raisins still. That's what happens. I got like a popcorn ball one time. What I'm going to do with this shit? That's the weirdo that thinks, I'm going to give them something that's better than candy. Just for the kids to throw that shit in the dryway. What? What?
Starting point is 00:25:58 What? What kind of fruit? I was that person. You have fruit. Yeah. What kind of fruit? No, I understand. I didn't start with the fruit.
Starting point is 00:26:08 In fact, it was the day that they stole my Benihana. I was a little bitter Revenge But also they Took it out on the kids They took them in the I had bags of candy And at some point
Starting point is 00:26:18 I ran out of candy And so if 30 kids is there And you got 20 pieces of candy You can either close the door On the last tent Or give them a grape I didn't give them a
Starting point is 00:26:25 Manderin That's the good kids Love Clementines Fair Not on Halloween they don't No you don't Because they threw Because they're all in my window
Starting point is 00:26:32 Close for your eyes What? I had like six Clementines Marks in my window Fuck them kids Don't know I'll learn something new about work every, every pot. The tough part sometimes is just answering the door.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Like one year I was feeling like, oh, you know what, I'm into this, man. You know, the kids, they do a barram, ding-dong. Go get that shit, Nick. By the time, you make it right back up to the door again. Three flights and steps to your bed, ding-dawn. It's like, oh, shit. They did that for four hours straight.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And then one year, I bought some candy for these little motherfuckers. And I put it out there. And I was opening the door. them. But when they was taking the candy, they would be excited while I had the door open. So now you've got to stand there and fake smile. Of course. Like you like it. Like you happy. What are you supposed to be?
Starting point is 00:27:21 Yeah, exactly. That shit is so trash, yo. That shit is trash. You don't leave a big ass bowl and say take one. Yeah. On a note. Yeah. I don't even leave a note, man. I don't even leave a note. I put a big ass, the big bowl filled with candy. Do what y'all going to do.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I haven't participated in this level of. Like, and I, and I, and I, and I, In our community, like, they don't get greedy with it because they're getting candy from everywhere. Rund did it one year. She was just out there with white claws and shit. White claws? Yo. Not handing out the white claws.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Oh, I was saying, damn. Yo, so they do that shit, though. They'll have, if you're walking around with your kids, they're like for the adults, yo, you want a beer? You want this? That's like. Oh, that's a good neighborhood. Like, all right, cool.
Starting point is 00:28:01 We're getting lit. Walking around. I love that. That's a good neighborhood. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I know that we shouldn't be trick-treating now. because they only going with their parents.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Like, I ain't, no kids was just traveling in kid crews like that. They only going with parents now because they know that one of these little weirdo houses to kidnap you like you was the local pit bull and never give you back. Yo, remember when the bigger kids would fuck you up and take your bag? Because we would just be outside. Wouldn't be no adults, really. The adults came out of the candy. The kids were traveling in packs.
Starting point is 00:28:32 You should have at risk Halloween. Oh, my gosh. The bigger kids would take a kid. Where you get stabbed when you could? Every week we learned something about Mona. I just remember being really excited because whatever I was doing it, I was doing it on my own.
Starting point is 00:28:46 So just, you know, it was fun. No, that's dope. I can't wait to hear y'all next month. The story is about how y'all catch the turkey at the drive. Hey, yo, what type of part do we have in, an honest one or not? Yeah. Fuck it, let's go.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Thanksgiving is canceled. One of my business people, The other day suggested I do a turkey drive. But last time I did a turkey drive was 25 years ago. Okay. It was in the projects and I was on the back of a pickup truck throwing turkeys at niggas with bodies. I'm like, now, you should have a turkey. You had killed a few motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:29:34 But all right, fine. But apparently they say it don't go like that. now? No. No. We should do a JVP turkey truck. That's what I'm saying. I'm going to do a drive.
Starting point is 00:29:46 But I'm not going out there. No, you got a pop-ball. But if we do a drive where? On the Zoom? No, you got to be there. Would it be a Jersey? Yes. What about North Philly?
Starting point is 00:29:58 That's far. That's Jersey. Okay. No. We got, we're doing something in Philly. Y'all got bigger fish to fry. You got to clean that wet block. first.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I would do a turkey drive if it's the new turkey drive. What is the new turkey drive, Joe? What do they do now? It's still pickup trucks throwing turkeys. That's what you're doing. No, that's how you do it no more. Oh, how is it now? Now you have it at a spot. They come in, they get their turkey, and you do canned goods, all that type of shit. And they leave.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Yeah. And you don't have to be there now. No, you still got to be there, bro. That's not what my people said. Well, and it was another point, too. You don't got to be there if you paying for everything. No, let's do a homeless drive. Let's do it like... Oh, never that. No, listen.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Can you not house? Sorry. We don't do that one. Mark, I'm not the philanthropist that you are. Listen, listen, it's easy. I used to do in Philly all the time. This is what you do. You just, on Thanksgiving day, from like 9 a.m. to like noon.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Before we all getting into our days, we have hot food for them. Okay. Turkey, some macaroni, green, all the shit. You can't do that in Jersey no more. Wow. Is it illegal? It's illegal. To give out hot food.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Because they put fentanyl until. In the mac of cheese. No, they always fuck with the people giving stuff out. That's true. That's what we always did. And then people came to, home people came to ate, they left, give them a bag to go, some blankets, some socks. What we used to do, me and my mom's do this on Christmas mornings,
Starting point is 00:31:22 we will go down to Penn Station. Yeah. Oh, no. Prepare, like, let's say 50 bags. Just pull up and just hand the back, but the back blanket, socks, toiletries, that type of shit. That's not hot. It's not hot.
Starting point is 00:31:36 You can't give no food. Oh. Unless it's all packaged. You can't give out first food. I don't like Penn Station. That's just scared. PlayStation scared of shit out of me. No, I, homeless people scared.
Starting point is 00:31:46 That's the part of Penn Station. Ain't the Starbucks that scare me. This a nigga defecating in front of it. Are there still homeless people by Penn Station? I'm sure. It is my least in a waste of the world. Both of them. He's inside the river.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Yeah. Homeless people move around frees. They don't stay in. same spot. Yeah, but sometimes they do. Penn Station, they ain't left. Yeah, they're down there. That overpass provides a little bit of shelter. I'm talking about Norc Penn Station. I don't know. Sometimes I'm North Penn Station, I take the 5 am. train to D.C. a lot, and it'd be crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:20 And it'd be going to block up Route 21. It's like a big grass area over there. Oh, I know. My wife used to live around the corner. They'd be out there with tents and shit in the grass. Yeah. Yeah, I don't like that place. Listen, we're praying for anybody that is homeless. Yes, that is in needs, especially during the holidays.
Starting point is 00:32:37 We're praying for you if your mental health is not right. We're praying for you if you've been affected or have family that's been affected by Hurricane Melissa. We're praying for you. For sure. Question for y'all. When black people say, I'm praying for you, is that the prayer? 99% of the time.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I wouldn't say black people limited to black people. I think that's people, period. People just got used to saying, I'm praying for you and they don't take the time to pray. Do you ever actually go home and pray for people? Yeah, I pray to go home. We say thoughts and prayers up here. And that be it.
Starting point is 00:33:05 That was it. That was the thought and the prayer. Start in the prayer. Together, one word. Okay. If you hold your hands like this while you say it. I for sure. First of all, I rarely say, oh, I'm praying for you.
Starting point is 00:33:15 But if, like, I will pray for people. I pray for people. How long is y'all prayers when y'all go to bed? Do y'all say prayers? No. I do not every day, but. I pray when, no, no, I don't say prayers before going to bed. I have certain times when I pray.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Like, when the cop, pull up. Not right now, God. Stuff like that. Oh, when you don't have your white face on? Yeah, I don't have it. Can't cold switch that one. All right, so you don't pray before bed. Mark don't pray before bed.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Mona? No. You don't. You don't. She tried to fake like. I don't know. I didn't get the perfect. Five times a day.
Starting point is 00:33:54 These niggas, Islam is perfect. Muslims are people. I'm supposed to pray five times a day. Last prayer is called Isha. And I've skipped it for a little bit. Nice mind your business. Don't skip it. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I'm out. I'm out of Skippy. I shouldn't. I should. Parks, you pray before bed? Not every day, but sometimes, yeah. Oh, she's, dicks. What is?
Starting point is 00:34:13 The pray before bed, I don't even get it. It's like, please God. Now I lay me down to sleep. I want to do, like, the movies. Thank God I woke up. Thank God I made it to bed. Thank God in case I don't wake up again. Here are the people that, I mean, oh, y'all are.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I talk the guy all that. Whoa, okay, never mind. All right. Do you pray before bed? Huh? Do you pray before being? Yes. Every day?
Starting point is 00:34:34 Yeah. You get on your knees on the side of the bed? For the most part. Do you get on your knees on the side of the bit? Yeah, you do. Yeah, he do. Yes, you do. No.
Starting point is 00:34:40 For prayer, though. How does it work? Oh, shit. How do you know if it's getting through? I hate it, dear. Yes, I pray for the most part before, and I'm in bed. I love that. And you just do this?
Starting point is 00:34:59 No, I don't. I'm just trying to, I'm trying to picture you. You were raised to pray before being in a sooner. Word. No, I believe in him. I just, it seemed like that's like a situation. If you're not doing any type of ritual with it, you're just like thinking good thoughts.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Yeah, he's just talking to himself. Exactly. You're talking to guys. Y'all is sick. No, that's good. Listen, I'm no longer discussing this with y'all. And I damn shit don't talk to Corey about. You can't talk to him about nothing.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Just know, I pray for him too. He needed the most. That's why he alive still. He thinks he's just running on his atheist beliefs. No, nigga. Covered in the blood. That's me. Yo, check for him too.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Now, that's my man. Hold him down. Hold him down. He don't know. He don't know. I love him. He don't know. Guide him.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Please give him direction and a heart. Give him some feelings. A girlfriend. Give him a warm vagina before he fucking passes on. Please, something. Yeah, I pray for you. It's working. I pray for people.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Yeah. It's working. He's warming up. Yeah. No, he warmed up. Yeah, yeah, for sure. He got a new phone, man. That didn't come just by itself.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Exactly. You know I'd be shower on the pod days. Yo, thank you. That's the best thing to do it. My wife told me that shit, too. She'd be like, you know it's a pod day. You one guy texted you to remind you. Am I lied you on this?
Starting point is 00:36:28 What was up? I got you. You got to remind you to? That shit was like a commercial. Your shit went from. Oh shit. I thought you had those socks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Oh shit. Joe don't like socks. I think he had two socks. You all are bullshit today. Damn. Yeah, it's a holiday. Yeah. He don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:36:46 What's going on? I don't know if it's a holiday. It's something. It's enough. It's a something day. You don't give a fuck. Hey, all right. That's better.
Starting point is 00:36:54 I meant to shout out the blue note the other day. What's the name put on an amazing show, yo? Robert Glasper. Robert Glassman. Oh, man. It was, they called it Rob Tober. He had all these different artists. last Friday
Starting point is 00:37:06 what's his name came through, Balow came through Oh, fine Oh, I like Bilal it. It was an amazing performance.
Starting point is 00:37:12 He killed it the artist The place was packed and then Comments slid through with Jennifer Hudson Oh shit And they both took the stage
Starting point is 00:37:18 And performed Oh, and put on And so did Thundercat And yeah, it just turned out to be like one of the amazing
Starting point is 00:37:25 performance A shout of Robert Glasper and everybody The Blue Note, man We got to all do an out into one of them spots
Starting point is 00:37:28 man I agree Invite us Yeah, Lorde You're on the Blue Note Nick You're on the phone
Starting point is 00:37:34 Yo, going here, would y'all like I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna do that. That's kind of you. Yeah, I saw the picture you backstage. See you, man. I was like, okay, okay. Mark, a little calming. I like all these guys.
Starting point is 00:37:49 You don't go outside, though. I go to the blue note for musicians. Okay. Oh, now I know that. I don't know your rules. I assume you don't go out unless you have to and then you leave about 60% through a show.
Starting point is 00:38:02 No, I go out for live music. depending on what's going on. And Robert Glassburg? I'll say less. I live. Yeah, definitely. All right, where do you find people who want to start today? Anywhere in the world, y'all want to start, I'm down.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Let's fucking, let's fucking go. Let's fucking do it. Did you, I, said, I had this on. This is it, right? No, that's killer clowns from outer space. Okay, go ahead. I had an it conversation. What is it, though?
Starting point is 00:38:25 I watched, because I rarely watched television. I watched that something called Drury City. I guess it's like the start of the show where it started from. Yeah, because that shit off. I cut that shit off You did? Oh, it sucked to you To me
Starting point is 00:38:38 I was just totally confused by it I don't know I wanted to know Did y'all watch it Have y'all watched it? It was bad acting Bad writing everything I had to cut that shit off
Starting point is 00:38:45 But if you enjoy it By all means It was just gory I can't say I enjoy it It just freaked me to fuck out It's only one episode though As it came out Right
Starting point is 00:38:54 That's the beginning Yeah It couldn't suck that bad Because it definitely It definitely made me Curious about episode too Because I couldn't Figure out
Starting point is 00:39:00 How it had anything to do What the fuck they were doing especially with the, like with the car seeded and all that. That opening scene was. It was crazy. Yeah, none of y'all saw it? No, I haven't been heard of it. Like, watch it.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Or dope. Yeah, maybe not. I like shit, like, you know, make me laugh. Oh, no, yeah, it's scary. I'm cool. Technically, the origin of it where he comes from. That's the whole thing. That should sound like an ad, man.
Starting point is 00:39:26 At the top of the pod, too. Yeah, right. I mean, I'm not letting a cook. Say, it's with the new balance. Right. They slide it in real stuff. Hello. I left more runway today because I know you like to talk.
Starting point is 00:39:38 We're giving it to you today. No, seriously. Seriously. I want to hear you, goddamn it. But shut the fuck up on the front. On the front, though, let's, you know what I mean? Do y'all want to do music? Yes, because I'm fucking mad at you.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Oh, this is hilarious. I wake up about 5 a.m., that's when I, you know, I can listen to music, especially new music before the family wakes up. Right. And I've been waiting for the big... You all make mad at you. I hear you life sounds so great. I got to check my new music. Get my little bit of peace in.
Starting point is 00:40:08 But I feel you. I feel you. Yeah, because you know, it's big. I'm listening to Bigger. I can't listen to Bigger 5A and with nobody else up. And while you're partnered, like, it feels weird explaining that, you know, I'm listening to new music. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Like, that feels like a weird thing to have to, I'm allot in time to listen to new music. I'm doing something by myself. I'm doing something without you, yo. I'm doing something that I enjoy more than you. You. We got a nice rhythm in my house. And that's the problem. She goes to read her books.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I go in the basement and watch football or listen to music or both. That's the fucking man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He just do it. I'm talking to sports. Listen, man.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Get a man cave, man. It's important. Shit, man. And find a hobby for them. Or encourage them to have. So mine is just... She found her hobby on her own. No, that's very smart.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Right now I just let her sleep at 5 a.m. I go downstairs. My son sleeps so he decides to wake up and terrorize me. I went into the basement, pulled up the big L album. I'm excited, except I'm waiting for the big album. Obviously, he's a legend. I love him.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And I see the track list. I see Hove. I see Knows, which we already heard, of course. You know what I'm seeing? Method Man. Method man, who's verse was crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:13 He's one, uh, Joey badass. Yeah. But I don't listen to none of them first because my man is listed. It says Joe Button and Big El got a song together. Yeah. They do. It did. They do.
Starting point is 00:41:25 It did. I skip past Hove. I skip past Noz. I skip past Joey. You did the right thing. You did the right thing. Went straight. to Joe Butt
Starting point is 00:41:33 And it's this nigga doing what he do. And I hear this nigga talk every Tuesday and Friday. I don't hear this fucking put on a track for that shit. You was just pontificating. Not one bar, not one verse. Shit ain't rhyme. What the fuck? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Shout to the Big Al Project. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I did the same thing on Connie Diamond's album. I did the same thing on a few of these albums. Man, they was advertising it as features. And you were listed as one of the features. You thought that I would have a live verse out there and nobody, nobody here, no?
Starting point is 00:42:01 I thought it was possible that you had a verse from 10, 15 years ago that nobody knew. Yeah, that you were sitting on. Oh, you thought it was an old verse. I knew you didn't go in the booth and rap nothing. Oh, old verse. But I thought it was a classic verse maybe that was unreleased. Ah, that big out he got his hands on. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Or that you just decided, you know what I mean? Yeah, I thought. A few people did hit me like, yo, is this a new verse? A bunch of people. A couple people hit me that expressed their disappointment when they found out what it was. But I mean, that's what I want to. how them way. I know
Starting point is 00:42:31 I know niggas was tight. Yeah. And the way it was promoted. Like, like I saw blogs pushing it.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Yo, Big El new album has features from Jay Z and Joe Button. I ain't see nobody else names. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:42 You said it's a bunch other people listed up there. I think they get more sad when they hit me and they see my reaction. My reaction is like, yo, L.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Amato dog. Did you really believe I was going to stop what I'm doing right now and go rap? Sorry. But I do like the Big Al project.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Me too, man. They did a really good job. It's hard to do posthumous albums at any point. And especially with L, there wasn't like a, he was in the tape era. There wasn't just like a million freestyles on someone's hard drive, like, or half done songs or whatever. So they did a really good job of pulling together stuff that some stuff is new. Some stuff is kind of existed in the underground YouTube world for years. I'm even glad that there's a home for that.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Yeah, me too. Me too. The whole second half of the album really is that. Yeah. It's the freestyle, radio freestyle. but touched up and, you know, with the AI. They were massive a lot of it, right? Yeah, well, they got AI now.
Starting point is 00:43:35 You can separate the vocals a little bit more than you ever could so you can actually make it sound pretty good. And they did a really good job with that. One other thing I like about this project is when it was first announced, the family had went up. One, I like that the family was involved. Yeah, for sure. The family went up and was like, hey, fans,
Starting point is 00:43:50 let us know what records you want to hear because we want y'all to feel like y'all have been a part of this creative process as well. That's fine. So now we're picking the favorites that, okay, y'all wanted that record, y'all wanted that one. That's cool. We'll go back, get that, clean it up, and put on a project. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:02 But like y'all said, everybody that featured, yeah. That Mac Miller record is fired. That Mac Miller got busy on it. That's another one. I saw a lot of people upset about that. Upset? Upset. Why?
Starting point is 00:44:13 Because they were just like, I guess the pairing. I heard people say it was a little too, like, warm and fuzzy. Like, it wasn't like the vibe they wanted from a big album. They said his verse was, I like the verse. I thought he'd kill it. I just liked the verse. The track was definitely different than the rest of the album. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:44:28 for sure but I was good with it I wasn't at it I was good with it I the 7 minute freestyle again like Hove is Hove and it's good I like hearing classic verses from artists I respect to remember how Hove rapped 20 years ago 25 years ago I like that
Starting point is 00:44:41 the sound of it again they remastered some of the stuff it didn't sound the way I like I like the old mixtape sound vibe a little bit so some of it I didn't I thought it was overproduced a little bit on the album but in general That's reasonable Demoitis yeah but it was great all that shit made me feel like I was on a
Starting point is 00:44:56 hall on block in 96 yeah yeah Yeah, yeah. Running again. Yeah. Yeah. Got her McGruff on there and shit. Yeah, it felt good. It felt good.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Got showbiz on there. Shout to show. Yeah. Lord Finesse did a beat on there. I don't remember what the record is, but shout to the whole digging. I would have liked to hear a little bit more digging production, but I understand how it goes. And shout to Royce, who executive produced. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Yeah. Yeah. On this project. Mike around. Of course. But yeah, no, the big old shit is hard. And shout to your button on that, motherfucker. You did a great job.
Starting point is 00:45:26 You did a great job. You did a great job. You really tied the album together. You brought it home, you know. Recipes Bigel. Shout to Mass Appeal as always. It's killing it. They have.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Great job. Mass Appeal's doing such a great job. I'm looking forward to just anything Mass Appeal. That's it. They're doing amazing stuff. This is Halloween. The next one is the Nause and Prima album, right? Yep.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Yeah, I believe so. I believe so. That I'm really excited about. Yeah, me too. It's Halloween. Halloween Havoc Six. You know it. Banks.
Starting point is 00:45:56 And I feel like. an idiot. I had no idea. Yeah, when I saw this one, he was like, wait, what? I'm like, yeah. This would have been my... The goal to? Yeah. I had no idea that this was dropping it all. Yeah, I had the Bigel record for a couple of weeks now. I went right to Banks.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Yeah, man. 16 tracks, man. Yeah. There's some fire on it too. The Six of Swords. I bought it, but I ain't listened to it yet, so I'm excited to get to it. I didn't get to fully listen. I got three tracks in this morning. I'm about halfway through that. Well, I want something from it. Somebody give me something. All right, this is, uh, eat what you...
Starting point is 00:46:26 Eat what you kills on a much. What you get here. Be sounds crazy. Toad queens, what up? Fitness miracles don't exist like my tall pitches. This is small pickings. You drop in your reaction with all good fingers. The games extort niggas.
Starting point is 00:47:17 I've seen movies and sports. Fuck with us. Little stitches. Open these words to influence you want before decisions. For everyone merges, there'll be some more collisions and put small decisions. When you're in the game, there's no prize. No prize. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Thank you. I can't wait to listen to this whole shit. I didn't even know it came out. Shout to Lloyd Banks, man. Our guy. Our guy, friend to the show. For sure. Yeah, I can't wait to get to that.
Starting point is 00:47:56 And I'm mad that I didn't know that was out. Yeah, I just want to finish the rest of it. Heels have eyes three. I'm sorry, good. No, go ahead. Heels have eyes three. What's that gun, y'all? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Gun drop too. Also kind of a surprise drop. Didn't know what was coming. I'd listen. I skimed through on the way into work today. Does anything stand out? It sounded great. The Stoga record was my favorite off.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Rip, Westside Gun just makes quality albums over and over and over again. I say so consistency, so consistently. Yeah, and the pace of it. Yeah, the pace. I was like, I feel like we just drop something. Is this the gun that I like or no? Maybe less than the last one.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Okay. But it's still good. It's fire. It's fire. Everything I heard. I don't let us do it quickly, but it was good, what I like so far. I'm speaking to ISIS tastes. What's your gun taste? Pause.
Starting point is 00:48:43 I like when he approaches the track seriously. got you that's the best way to put it okay he's rapping on there it's just not as much like song finished song
Starting point is 00:48:53 format before like when he's just ad libby and not that no it's not that he's rapping on there he's rapping on it and always great production
Starting point is 00:49:00 always great production we got we got premium ran the reinvention big jersey let's go so happy for them me too
Starting point is 00:49:12 I love where Rand is at just in hip hop. I love the people that in hip hop that seem to just be comfortable with themselves. Iran is chilling. Rand is eating soup and celery.
Starting point is 00:49:27 He's in the gym. He's working out. He's on an island. He's running track. He's shred up, cut up, making music. Don't want to go TikTok with you niggas. Don't want to go sit in front of people
Starting point is 00:49:40 that don't understand what's going on. And to hear a rapper of that caliber over production of this caliber is a treat for music lovers all over the world. I am blessed to still remember my reaction the very first time we unearthed ransom in Jersey City in 90, whatever that. Well, oh, 1, 2000. I don't remember the fucking year. But we were blown away. So shout out to the fans that are just now getting experienced at in 2025. Shout out to Prine, four decades, five decades of legend. Word.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Of legend. I am blessed and honored to know you. I am so honored to know some of you people, man. That ass. I can't lie. I can't lie. We don't say it enough. We don't say it enough.
Starting point is 00:50:28 That is a fact. And these are two of those brothers for me. And it's hard. It's hard. And bringing back rap radar was fired too. Happy to be a part of that. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Getting to see BDOT look all uncomfortable for a second. Bidon Elliott looked like they should talk But that's why I fuck with Rand Bid on Elliot looked like they had just gotten together To talk to Rand But hadn't talked to each other That was fire And they both so great at journalism
Starting point is 00:50:59 I know it's not a word So it is now They are so great at journalism Yeah They're good They're really good Yeah no they're great Great job. Great job. Yeah, give me something.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Let's go. You might get robbed tonight, vibes. Wow! Yeah, they say time waits for no man. Even a broken clock is right two times a day, so bet I replace your broke hands. They ain't got to watch still write two times a day. Let me validate. There's no chance. In this lifetime, if any man mortal struggle or write rhymes against his force, I cut off his lifeline. Wanna be icon who bombs on stage while I'm blowing up every step I take because they're looking like my
Starting point is 00:51:43 My name is my pray God sends me the right sign when it's dark a roach going scatter as the light shine It's deep in their anatomy come when the work's done but discipline is a bridge between dreams and reality Y'Rap has never seen no murder scene with a casualty From a wicked place where murder seen formality nervous fiends who casually step over the body to Cog Truv's like they never heard the screams of agony agony That's a cut above. The reinvention's out now. Shout to Prime.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I hope that this pace of these short album EPs or whatever you want to do continues. I love just... Nah, they found a good bop on there. Short, concise, to the point. Like, don't you know? It's just drag shit. And I can double back at any time. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:52:26 That's why I noticed that the short album joints, niggies is coming right back. Yep. I like that. I love it. Offset, another surprise project for me. know it came out either. I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Listen, maybe that's just me at 45 now. Maybe I should just stop coming in here and say, oh, I ain't no idea you. Yeah, maybe I just don't know no more who's dropping. How we find out now? Like, dog, every week I hit that new music latest, what's coming. Yo, I'm checking dates on albums that are in. So I try to know. I go to like me too.
Starting point is 00:52:58 But some of this shit don't be listed, yo. Like that offset project wasn't listed. Yeah, that definitely wasn't listed. And that shit dropped at midnight. I just happened to be up by open. I said, wait, offset snuck him. I'm thinking of EP, something three, you know, something. It is shorter than the last project, but it's still full-length.
Starting point is 00:53:12 And I was just like, oh, shit, he dropped a full-link project. Oh, let me run it. I like it haunted by fame. Yeah, it's only 25 minutes long. I haven't heard any of it. Yeah, but let's get to the tea. Let's get to the tea, though. What's the tea?
Starting point is 00:53:24 Listen, we're still here to be, well, at least with me. I'll speak for me. I'm still here to be a chatty patty. I see some, I see some of the talk out there. You niggers is on couches, gossiping like bitches. I agree sometimes. I agree. Y'all ain't saying nothing wrong.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Niggas is sitting up there. Shat and shit. But these niggas are given to you. So here we go. Offset. And what I'm sure he didn't feel like saying on his album, he said on this mix tape like project, I'll ask you all if y'all believe him in a second.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Here we go. No sweat, right? No sweat. You ain't happy. I know I had worked. How you married is thinking of bird. Oh, shit. That's it
Starting point is 00:54:10 That's what you get That's what you get I'll give it to you one more time It's fast Oops How the fuck you need Jordan for Rodman You're a fool of you think that I'm hurt You ain't happy I know I had word
Starting point is 00:54:24 How you married is still giving bird Gets a hell bitch you're going on berserk He said how you leave in Jordan for Rodman Yep How are you leaving Joe So he calling him kinky freaky Kinky freaky I mean
Starting point is 00:54:37 Perhaps. I guess that's what he was. Dennis Robin was a very free man. And some might call that kinky freaky. Okay. I don't know. I saw people giving the flack like, oh, we're tired of hearing it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:54:49 But me, I'm somebody that I appreciate where artists go through shit and put it in their art. I kind of hate the whole, like, new way we do shit when people just talk shit and do interviews and tweet shit. I feel like artists are supposed to respond with songs.
Starting point is 00:55:02 You know what I mean? So, of course, it's like, Cardi said a lot. her album and she also has been real open about things. I just saw her recently talk about, I don't know where she was, but she was speaking about why they're really not divorced and why she feels like he's holding it up or whatever. It's like, that's their personal business. He'd get to say something back. People kill me when it's like, you can't say anything back. That nigga can say what the fuck. He wasn't. He's supposed to say it like that. I think he could
Starting point is 00:55:28 have went harder. I don't know why he went so light. Well, that's still, because as a man, you can't do it. As a man, I totally get him going light. He really, he's like he's like he didn't even. want to do that. Tell me why. When he came up here, he basically said, yo, as a guy, there's just certain shit that's flawed. It's certain shit that's not G-Cold.
Starting point is 00:55:47 It's certain shit that's not keeping the people. No matter what she does. She could say everything in the world. Me as a guy, I cannot do it. He said that. I think some men out there understand that. The real men understand that because these niggis today
Starting point is 00:56:02 will argue to go right there with you. I ain't with that, too, by the way. Are you in fist fight? Yeah, all of it's nasty To respond In that case your hands In bisexual I feel like
Starting point is 00:56:14 Like I do totally get there When you explain it that way But for me That would be Leaving him out of it Why is he robbing then Nick ain't do nothing to you You just married
Starting point is 00:56:25 Yeah, oh that So you ill Maybe But you ill But you ill That's not me and sure I never I was so focused
Starting point is 00:56:32 On the Jordan part That I didn't get to I didn't go to Why might he'd be saying Rodman. When you say Jordan, to me, you're just saying, I'm the best over no matter who you are. You fucking with this.
Starting point is 00:56:44 He said tipping. Right. He said Robin for a reason. But that's fly. I mean, the rumors are out there. I ain't going to say him because I ain't got no proof of none of that shit in front of my business. And I'm against.
Starting point is 00:56:55 And I'm against. Don't do that. I'm against pulling people out of the closet. Correct. I'm against that. You with that? I don't, first of all, I don't, if I'm addressing rumors that I heard,
Starting point is 00:57:04 it has nothing to do what he really is. That's number one. So it's like, that's not pulling nobody out the closet saying if somebody said something about it. No, no. Too much part? Pulling people out the closet part. Got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:15 But just, that's my personal opinion. I feel like what he said is true and what you're saying makes sense. But the real version of that would definitely be not throwing a jab in him. And I took that as a jab. Well, he's throwing, and that's the other part. Because has he said anything? All said keeps trying to act like I'm not hurt and I'm not bothered. Yes, you are, dog.
Starting point is 00:57:31 It's okay. It's on that. Like, even in there, you all, you think I'm hurt, but I'm not. Yeah, you are. True. You are. Everything you have been doing is showing a man that's hurt or bothered and trying to act like I'm not. Like you're going so far to try to act like, I don't really get a fuck what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:57:47 But you're watching everything. When dude have a bad game, you're posting about it. Like you're doing a lot of hurt shit that we can see it. But then you'll sit down and say, oh, I ain't hurt. I'm keeping it play. I'm keeping the pee. No, you're not. I want to offer pushback on that.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Go ahead. I think I think I'm on the other side of it. that. Today, I think I believe him. Like, with this project, with him saying it today, I've echoed your sentiments on his album when it came out. And I was like, what about this? What about his antics on the internet?
Starting point is 00:58:20 You're, I don't think they, I don't really think he's showing out. I didn't say show out. If you don't care, you don't care. You can't sit here and say, I don't care and show you that I care. There's no way you don't care and you post him losing the game. Unless you post them losing the game prior to this happening. post him losing the game, I mean, he lose the game, and then you go make a little slick comment
Starting point is 00:58:42 on your Instagram right after him losing the game. You know what you're doing. You know what they're going to do. You know, the coverage is going to get. Why do you care if he has zero catches for, whatever? Why do you care about his stat line? You're right. Why are you even watching, you sound like a chick. That's what chicks do. That is exactly what women do, bro. I'm not letting, no, no, no. They start that Instagram, taking a shot at the other girl type of shit. That's what
Starting point is 00:59:06 women do. Men don't do that. Men don't go at the other where's the other guy? I can have a problem with Homeboy. Like, I'm, I want to agree with y'all if I'm just pardoned, but I do understand him. I can have a problem with Duke separate from whatever me
Starting point is 00:59:23 and my very still wife are going through, especially if the rumors are true of you sleeping with my wife and then I had a baby in there and then you had a baby. There's a lot, there's a lot of reasons why if he feel like posting
Starting point is 00:59:38 and Steph going scoreless in a game. You want every song saying, I got a nigga more handsome than you that's better than you, that's dope than you. Oh, I'm going to small and tiny. You're having to blast. As women do. Yeah, but so if a nigga get out of character,
Starting point is 00:59:57 because I'll agree with you, don't say nothing. But if a nigga get out of character once or twice, I'm not going to put all the sauce on, oh, you care, you care, you care. Nigel, that's my wife. We're going to. We're acting. We might have a reason to it.
Starting point is 01:00:08 We're actively going through a divorce. You don't know what I'm dealing with behind the scenes. That's what I'm dealing with with these kids. You don't know how she's responding to me in real life. Like if I slipped up online once or twice, don't put it all on. I believe him when he says, yo, I ain't as hurt as y'all think. There's been times where I've gone through a breakup with public darlings because women play public darling games better than you. Women care about the aesthetic more than you.
Starting point is 01:00:36 So, yeah, where you, fuck? can do some shit and the public darling lady the whole defense say oh you motherfuck you're cheating on her could you lost all you lost all you lost it and never got it back and the nigga be like yo dog I know her in real life she's dirty as shit her trunk dirty now the bathroom is dirty
Starting point is 01:00:51 the pussy is dirty she fucked and let's get to that too because I'm not saying her pussy's dirty I'm just talking to yeah no off her also how you handle our divorce or breakup may indeed make me look at you differently than I did when you were my wife I'm not
Starting point is 01:01:07 trying to cape them. But if we go through our shit and then you go fuck the football player while we yada yada yada yada I think as a guy you can have a feeling about it. I do. Without people being able to come to say that's not my... No no no no no no. That's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:01:23 I'm saying that's human to have that feeling but don't now act like you don't have that feeling. Yeah there's no I agree with I He'd be walking around like Superman. You're I don't give a fuck what she's doing. I'm cool. I'm cool. But yes you do. Right. That's all I'm saying. It's human to care. What you're saying is right. But I feel like what you're saying,
Starting point is 01:01:38 it fits more if he stepped to him when he's seen him at the club. It fits more if he messaged him directly. But to throw it in a song, it gives me. I don't think that there is any rules which you can't do. You can't do when you hurt. People be heard, people heard, people heard. But y'all are held to a different standard. In my opinion, for him to throw a jab at his athleticism in a song,
Starting point is 01:01:58 it's no way that you can then say you think I've heard I'm not. It just doesn't match. That's all I'm saying. I think that it would be different to go to your point. Right, because of the white part. But I can see you a point. approaching a nigga in person that way, but to throw it on a song about his athletic to him, like that's going to hurt Cardi.
Starting point is 01:02:11 That's not, no, no, no, no. Mona, you just started. That fits nobody but him and his fit. Mona, you just started saying, I love when artists put it in art. I do. I do. He's artists. So if he feel away about something that Homeboy did separate of you fucking my wife and
Starting point is 01:02:27 taking my wife, then why do you feel differently about him putting in art? I don't feel no differently. I just feel that he can't say I'm not hurt and do that. Okay, so my purpose. All right. So my, yeah, I understand. That's the thing I agree with you. My response to that is I believe that, again, I said that I believe him today.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Okay. Today upon this release. I think there are phases to the breakup. Absolutely. We've all been through breakups, for sure. That's what I'm saying. So I think that after I hurt and ball up and cry and get over the shock of you leaving and you bought a new house and I'm in my mansion alone, oh, you fuck dude on. Once you get over yourself.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And you can assess properly. Sometimes you be like, all right, I get it. Even if you fucked up. I'm not saying that he's an angel. Even if you fucked up. The whole time you talking before, not this time, but the time before we were talking to you were like, the way you carry our breakup can make me look at you different.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Please. Like what? We had to break up because you're a fucking horn. Because he was in a relationship wild. I don't give a fuck. How you feel I do the breakup, you fuck my op. You fuck my cousin. Like, you're going to judge me.
Starting point is 01:03:37 me on how we broke up when you was dogging me we was together. I don't give a fuck. Now I go with the mailman. But just to be clear, they both, they allegedly both have that story. But when I say that, I'm not even, you fuck my op. They both looking at each other like the Spider-Man mean. First of all, I didn't know anything about her
Starting point is 01:03:55 fucking his op. Second of all, I feel like that when I was around to you, bigger than Cardi and period. When you say, oh, I'm judging you how we broke up. If the relationship is a breakup because she left because of you, it's like, bro. Who gives a fuck how you're looking at me? Yeah, come on. That's just a, of women,
Starting point is 01:04:08 women, I get that. I get that. And I agree with that. I agree with that. I just don't think that he is soaking right now.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I don't think he's soaking. Which is not busy for? Girl. It ain't even a matter of soaking. It's just like he seems like he's, I'm still paying attention to your moves.
Starting point is 01:04:28 I'm still keeping up with y'all. That's what I'm talking about. And if you move past it, you over it, you don't really do those things as much no more. Unless. I don't want to.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Go ahead, I don't want it to sound like I think that in a different world they both would take each other back tomorrow I do too Let me be clear on that I ain't trying to say like they both are moving on I do too
Starting point is 01:04:50 I wouldn't be shocked today I wouldn't be surprised I wouldn't be surprised Right All the energy gives is they might end up back together Nah You know how old next If you say no who you think wouldn't take who back
Starting point is 01:05:03 You think he would I don't think he would Only for me shit I would be checking about her. I don't think about her. And that's crazy. I was thinking her, maybe she's done.
Starting point is 01:05:13 That's what I was thinking. I thought people go back for sure. One thing about it is I think they were really in love with each other at a point. And it sucks watching the whole thing. It does, especially after they built their family. You're not old that kid got to be before. I say, oh, they ain't getting back together. At least six.
Starting point is 01:05:28 I'm thinking seven. That's the first time, niggas off hit in the baby, right? No, at seven years, you should be able to pick your kid up on a Thursday and every other weekend without sticking your dick in a little on. Without getting a chewy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the way out. At 7, you stop pulling all the tricks of trying to get in her house to fuck.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Right. You slow down. Seven, you beep the horn like the nigga walk off. Exactly. You don't walk the dick out. You ain't got to pee no more when you get to her house. 24 is like you and your booty shorts when you pull up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Did you eat? Yes. Did you eat? In the first five, six years, your baby mom or baby daddy is still trying to look like him or her in front of you. Seven and eight. that's when it's over usually the feelings are like officially like I wouldn't even
Starting point is 01:06:11 date guys with kids younger than 7 to 8 when I didn't have kids because I knew that you probably fucking hurt you know what I mean that is a common thing I would date chicks with kids definitely not always the kids because they had to go it means they had to eventually
Starting point is 01:06:26 you can't leave that little four-year-old for just a few weeks yeah you got to do something now god damn it man and tired all right it's time for my favorite part of the show Pride Picks! Look at the Moan.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Look at the guy. She got it. She got it. Stop playing with her. Stop playing with Demona. I guess. Go ahead, Bona. Hit your little ribbon in the sky for the niggas out there. That's thing going looking to hollum. They got you on Reddit, Popper tuning it up. You know what? Oh, I seen
Starting point is 01:06:58 that. Bro. I seen it too. Listen, y'all. Listen, y'all. Fuck. What a? To tune it up. Fuck being on Reddit. They got you already. I don't got no ass. That's cool. Nah, but when you.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Hold up. Hold up. You mute up. Don't sell yourself short. Some of them girls out there without ass, when y'all pop it a certain way, y'all got enough hips to fake it. Y'all got that little deceiving shit. Don't stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:23 It shook. Something was happening, baby. I mean, I left because I was appalled. An employee was behaving that way. Like I said, it shook. First of all, I don't, I'm not in that group of women that don't have ass. I lost my ass.
Starting point is 01:07:36 I've had an ass before, so I know the glory of having the ass. Got locked up. Like an accident. Oh, wait, and we got to big up the fat bitches that got small, so they got that excess weight down there. That's what shaking. Yeah. Please.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Please. That little flat. Please. And they still feel like a fat person inside, so you could just slut them out. Like, you could just, you could go crazy on them. That's so crazy. No, but y'all, y'all talking about the booty shaking when they put it in there. That's not the one that shook the table.
Starting point is 01:08:05 These niggas family. a visit picture with me and my father when I was in the feds. They posted that. All the comments say, I knew she was a stud, I told y'all. You did look like a stud that. I can go a lot. But this is the thing. I don't know if people know down. In the victory? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:20 I was like, he was the young man. He was just like, he was talking about the picture. The guy that I was with his father, he would be so upset if his picture was on, if he knew his picture was online. And secondly, I don't know if y'all know, but in jail, we all have to wear the same thing. Mom, it's okay
Starting point is 01:08:34 baby. The fuck. And the scar. It's the Where you were it, though. It was a key more. I just tied it up because my clip, I lost my clip. So it was like this in the front of me, but I had to tie it up. Oh. Just give it set it off. Yeah, rural street niggas know where I'm at because that little thing in the back, that's the federal visit room.
Starting point is 01:08:48 And orange is the new black. Whatever. For real. But y'all mother, y'all are like the FBI, man. Y'all are scared of bitch. I ain't going to lie. That shit is spooky. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:56 If you don't know about this audience, that is one thing that they will do is dig up everything in the world and insert their nose in all the business that's not theirs. That's what they'll do. So get used to it, part of the month. Yeah. Heavy as the head. Boy, yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep.
Starting point is 01:09:14 And if you wouldn't have tucked the, if you wouldn't have had the shirt out, like, on some Mary Kingstown shit. We wasn't allowed to tuck our shirts. You had to wear them out. You have to wear your clothes and wear your clothes in jail, guys. Or you could be free.
Starting point is 01:09:26 It's another reason to be free. Like, girls didn't have been to jail. You know what they say? It was 50 years ago, guys. Okay. Well, make some noise for turning your life around. I really didn't turn my life around. And I'm proud of me.
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Starting point is 01:11:20 Put Jonathan Taylor down for anything he feel like doing. I'm riding it, pause. Double it, whatever he's doing. Yeah, what, they play the Steelers this weekend. He's going to end. Yeah, whatever he makes mind up to do. I'm totally fine with that.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Also, Buffalo has can't. Kansas City this weekend. So give me Rashi Rice. Yeah. Give me Rashi rice for anything he feels like doing on that beautiful, beautiful Sunday afternoon. What? Sure. Whatever, bitch.
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Starting point is 01:13:00 Oh, that's fine. That's dope. That's fine, buddy. That is fine. last night. Welcome to the potash. Welcome, Ish. Thank you, sir.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Good to see you, man. I feel like to be. I'm cool. Glad you dressed up, feeling festive. Drug dealer. Okay. I said, he's drunk. A nigga pulled out the Jaboz.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Thin' pulled out the Jabos. What are you? Pulled out the Jibbles. You know, and massed him with the travis. You got something going on right now. What's going on this evening? What's going on? You know he outside.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Take a little sip of some tea on these things. I'm not going outside, but no. I know. I know. I know. I know. my three-year-old. I understand.
Starting point is 01:13:35 That's all right. It's cool. I have a question for you, and while I do want to make jokes about it, I also want to have a serious talk about it because I'm a musician. Were you aware that your sleeper was AI? No. I was driving, and that sleeper just came up on...
Starting point is 01:13:56 Okay. Music. Does it matter? That's the question. That's the question. I don't think it matters, because so many niggas been my DMs, like, yo, I don't know where you found that shit.
Starting point is 01:14:05 That shit is amazing. That's scary, actually. Do you have that many niggas in your DMs? Yeah, that's what you. I'm sure you do as well. I don't know. It's cool, dog. Paying their phone bill.
Starting point is 01:14:20 All right, so your answer is no. Not really. I know. Yeah, I ain't know. No, not that question. Does it matter part? Anybody could get duped. While that song was on, though, I did say,
Starting point is 01:14:31 this sounds like somebody. I know. It sounded like the dual part in the beginning to me when I first heard it sounded like Imani. For real, for real.
Starting point is 01:14:42 And then the girl sounded like I just thought about yesterday. But the girl sounded like somebody else that I was familiar with their voice. See, this is why I keep certain walls up to make sure certain things
Starting point is 01:14:54 don't easily penetrate. Pause. That was crazy. But carry on. Nickets be beating your walls up. Yeah. That's fucked up. Have you hitting on the angle?
Starting point is 01:15:05 Oh, you need the angle to hit. To hit it hard? I should hook to the left arm. Oh, you need to. Yo. Oh, man. I'm not. I'm not comfortable, that.
Starting point is 01:15:15 All right, don't. Can he do the class again? Yeah, it's cool. Please. Yo. We'll throw up. I'm going to be. I'm so happy with somebody else.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Usually that's me. You're going to be the class with you. Oh, my. Yeah, yeah. We got to go to the class together. I've been there. I'm good. It matters to me.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Which part, though. You have to be a lot. first. The bar is in hell now. But for me, for me only, I'm not telling nobody else what to do. I do think that there will be a time where everyone has to adapt to how AI is involved in music. I'm not being a dinosaur with this. 2025, I'm not, there's enough humans. Yes. There's enough humans. I agree. And if I could tell, because some of these AI records, I can tell the humans that it's modeled after.
Starting point is 01:16:02 If I could tell, then I'd rather go to. to the human. That's like me. You know, I'm a don't know. I'm a don't. So I buy music still. Yeah. So I'm a few generations back with how I'm rebelling against the cause. This is all new territory. But it's played that record and I ain't going to say they and lie to you. That was a really good record. That shit was amazing. That was a really good song. So my thinking says you could have given that to a human because I know how the music business works. Somebody had that good ass song. Somebody wrote that song. If you said you know how the music business works. You see why they not give it. You see why the fuck they're not giving it to nobody.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Yo, niggas been hitting me like, yo, that shit is fine. I had that shit on repeat in my car all day. So why the fuck, if the music business can create that without human beings that they don't have to pay and they don't have to contend with, why would they not keep putting that out? No.
Starting point is 01:16:50 It's all about profitability. They would keep putting it out. I'm on the side of artists. I'm on the side of artists rights. I'm on the side of artists getting a coin and being able to travel. Remember I came in here one day and thought that four backs was fucking AI was bullshit.
Starting point is 01:17:04 I didn't really. think that because I know Larry Jackson. But I was just playing around. I was like, I need to see you perform the record that I love. This pandemonium that's going on, Wu-Tang Torn, fucking every old act, Torn,
Starting point is 01:17:18 selling out 50-cent Torn, young boy touring. The artist since the beginning of the time, that's how they got their coin. So you're taking these dope songs, you're giving it to whoever, or you have an AI model it after somebody that's alive. It's just New Age robbery and New
Starting point is 01:17:34 I can't I can't comfortably support it I went to the niggas Instagram page your Instagram page looked like a stupid ass AI Instagram page I can't do it
Starting point is 01:17:45 then I fucking up then I looked at that because I bought the song when you played it I down look at the cover oh y'all looking stupid two stupid AI pictures
Starting point is 01:17:54 on that like I'm not there yet right right and I know I see so many people have a problem with what Timberlin is doing but because Ish brought
Starting point is 01:18:01 that in this room I thought it was like okay now we can have a different talk. Yeah, we could. Because that's why Timberlin is doing it for the people. Yeah, I mean? He's doing it to get ahead of this shit because he's like, it's inevitable.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Exactly. It's too dangerous. Like, especially when you say it sounds like Emeny. That's exactly why it's too dangerous. People that are not necessarily well, like super well known all over, where we could pinpoint it because we know what he sounds like what other people can. Imagine being somebody somewhere and you working for years and doing all this shit. Then you hear this shit.
Starting point is 01:18:29 You know it sound like. You know it has something to do with you. You can't even fucking prove it. It's too dangerous. fuck with. I don't even want to support no AI shit. I can't support the human artists and right, like
Starting point is 01:18:42 I'd be talking to these people in the street that fuck around with this tech shit. They're like, yo, hey, Asia. Look at Asia here. What's up, Asia? They'd be like, yo, you're trying your whole life, it takes your whole life to come up with a hit song. A hit song gonna feed a million families. Once you catch one, all your energy
Starting point is 01:18:59 sometimes is going into, let me catch a record that's going to feed all of our families. the AI come and gets to be Rihanna, Beyonce, Beethoven, Jimmy Hendricks. Like, no, you can't do that to the field. You can't do that to the field. You better get, the last two weeks or so,
Starting point is 01:19:20 niggas's been like teaching me this chat GPT shit. I ain't know none of you. Y'all know I ain't the techie niggas. But the free version, they're like, yo, you got to go buy the other one. They said, yo, when you get the paid version, the shit will start to learn you and start conversing back with you
Starting point is 01:19:34 and your slang and all of that. So if you start talking about somebody wrote that song, somebody might not have written that song. Chat GBT GBT might have written that song. But then somebody wrote that song. Yeah, that's true. If Chad GBT wrote the song,
Starting point is 01:19:47 then somebody wrote the song. Some people wrote it and they pulled from here, here, here and here. And that shit is crazy. And that's an issue for me. I saw Ian the other day tweeting. He bought the fucking robot. Whatever, a little $20,000 robot,
Starting point is 01:20:00 humanoid helper is. and he was super excited on the phone. He was like, I bought you one too. It's like, there goes that cultural different shit again. Just popping in. I'm with it, but I mean, I've seen enough movies to know that this nigga will kill me in my sleep. He for sure is going to kill you. Or go in my phone and tell my girl was in there.
Starting point is 01:20:17 Like, he ain't going to just vibe with what I want him to do. Right. Anyways. This man is crazy. He really bought that robot? Yes. He bought that. He was serious.
Starting point is 01:20:26 He bought it. I saw it on Twitter by the night and then sent me the ad. Keep that damn thing. from the baby. The ad looks like... I put my deposit there. You did? You did?
Starting point is 01:20:36 You're a different type of niggas. There's nothing about me that wants to be around a robot. No, no, no. That's for the purchase. You can do the subscription. Oh, you did the layaway shit. Yeah, I did the layaway shit. I ain't got the 20 to just drop up there like...
Starting point is 01:20:45 Like my... I got your big dog. We got this Thursday part coming. The way my brain works is some country want to do some shit to us. They fucking tap into the robots. That's the first line of the attack. Not even some country.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Yeah, well, you know, I didn't want to... Yeah, but no. I don't know. I just, I don't want to be a dinosaur either. But it's like, even with Chad GBT, when you say they learn you and they talk to you, I remember the case that a little boy that was talking to Chad BGBC and then he committed suicide. Because the family is saying that the chat GBC coax them. But that's the thing about a robot that doesn't have any kind of emotion.
Starting point is 01:21:20 What happened is people are developing these dependencies on the AI assistance. Like, and yeah, they're coaching them into suicide. Like there's a whole class action lawsuit I was talking to Salehi on the phone other day and he was just like Yo type this in type that in Then he's like yo dog The shit the more you talk to
Starting point is 01:21:41 Because you could start physically just talking to him He said yo the shit will start replying to you Like niggins said they put relationship Advice in the chat GPT My daughter you was using it What? And I had to tell her to stop Oh this is ridiculous Nika said yo download your text thread
Starting point is 01:21:56 If you arguing with your girl Just down yo the text thread in the chat GPT It'll advise you on how to apologize to your girl or how to make up with your girl. Now we got to figure out these niggins is using Chad GBT to talk to us. Yeah, you know that nigga ain't say that fly shit on his own. Exactly, he's dumb. Now everything's clicking.
Starting point is 01:22:11 Like the jail niggas writing letters to your bitch. Everybody got the same letter. No, that's crazy, son. That's some scary shit. If that's doing dangerous because, like, you're eventually going to have to talk to her like a person. Right. Or not.
Starting point is 01:22:23 And then my thing is, because I don't want to be a dinosaur, but then I don't agree with that. So where's the happy medium where I'm not all the way out of the loop? You know what I mean? I just don't, I don't know the AI shit. I don't know why any human support it. Because in every way, they're seeping into the game where they're going, they could replace us and make money.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Green. What's funny, we were talking about this at the bar the other night. And Rem and my friend Jeremy were talking about how their kids are in school. And like, the kids will use AI as a diss. Like, they'll be like, that's just some AI shit. Like someone comes in with too much makeup with you, you look AI. Oh, shit. The test is too hard.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Man, this test is AI. Oh, shit. So the kids is on some fuck that. shit, which I thought was dope. I told the story here. My only experience using ChatGPT is maybe two years ago or a year ago Mother's Day
Starting point is 01:23:12 where I hit her and said Happy Mother's Day. Baby, I love you or whatever it was. That was dry to her and she cursed me out. I think that's all you got to say to me on Mother's Day, you motherfucker. I said, all right. Chat GP.T.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Hook me up. Give me a long, loving message for a mom with three kids. Oh, that's them captions. you be writing that be fly. I thought that came from rapper brain. No, I write my own Instagram caption. Oh, shit. I thought I'm in a real text. Yo, you stick a toll on this.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Your shit be flyer. His captions be lit. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I write my Instagram. I ain't Mark. Anytime Mark starts talking about his boundless love, I'm like, all right.
Starting point is 01:23:51 That's just hate. Mark be hitting it with that boundless love shit. I like that. I like that. You'd be soaked that shit. I got to go to your page and read what you'd be saying to your girl. Nothing?
Starting point is 01:24:01 Nothing publicly? No. Not even on like birthdays, holidays. No. His page is all business. He just on. Homes for rent. On that Muslim super private shit.
Starting point is 01:24:11 I'm talking to my bar for the other morning. I'm not even Muslim. Yes, you are. He's part of the nation. He is. Like a lot of people in my life are. So I like talking to them like to learn and shit. So he ain't taught you not to eat pork yet.
Starting point is 01:24:28 What learning you do? He don't play that pork shit. Yeah, don't say. You can't buy it, put it in his house. Nothing. You can't look at it in the super. He don't play that pork shit. So that's for him and his girl.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Shout to Mill. But anyway, he was like, yo, in our culture, our wives, our women, you can't hug them. I said, for real. I always act like he said, like, some. Can't shake their hand. I said, for real. He said, yeah, it's disrespectful. I said, how you, how.
Starting point is 01:25:01 I just say hi to him. He said, Ah, al-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-ha-a-ha-ha-a-ha. Yeah, that's what you're talking about. Like some people, some people are. Wait, that's the end of the end.
Starting point is 01:25:12 Yo, if you was married, you would shake a man here? No, you don't shake no man. We also toward the lower-ar-gays. I mean, I'm not in the FOI, but we have similarities. You and Mark and Isch, y'all, are trying to turn this podcast a different way.
Starting point is 01:25:27 None at all. When I say lower your gaze, you're not supposed to make eye contact. And I know, And I know you know, but you're not supposed to really make eye contact, but there's no, like, male besties, you know what I mean? Or, like, so the only, really, a Muslim woman is only supposed to be, like, with her brother or her uncle.
Starting point is 01:25:42 And that's the same people you could take your overgarment off in front of, too. Okay, so we are Muslim. That's all she can be with, too. Stupid. I know a lot of guys that are not Muslim, but they admire the way the marriage works, and they kind of, like, try to end up. emulate that to a certain extent.
Starting point is 01:26:03 You know what I mean? It's some people are more liberal and progressive on that stuff. True, true, true, you know what I mean? Just like you see Muslim women that don't cover no more. You just trying to justify eating them ham sandwiches. That's your man right here. You don't eat poor, I know that. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my little more liberal.
Starting point is 01:26:17 I ain't, I was talking about the wife and the girls and stuff like that. And lower your kids. No, I know. I know. I don't, I don't judge people that do, but I don't. Even if people are more liberal, still there is, like, mass jit etiquette. So in the mass jill, you're still not doing that. Yeah, like, if I go out. If I go out and travel and I see people, I don't try to hug their wives.
Starting point is 01:26:33 I don't shake hands when I accept the word. I just do this. You know what I mean? Just keep it moving because I respect their rules. You know what I mean? Or how they move. Unless they initiate a hug, I don't go near it. Let's revisit this if Mom Donnie wins.
Starting point is 01:26:46 Winning Mom Donnie wins. If Mom Dami wins. Shit might change. But if Cuomo wins, then let's cater this. I'm glad you mentioned Musco, too. Let's cater the talk. I was the other day. And it made me think about what you were talking about outing people.
Starting point is 01:26:59 And you were like, you don't believe in pulling people. about the closet. Yeah. Is that, like, a, is that like 100% or are there times you feel that people deserve it? Are you asking me?
Starting point is 01:27:07 I'm asking Joe Button. There's never a time where I feel like someone deserves that. Okay. Is there a time where someone deserves that? I'm starting to think there is. Oh, I'd love to hear this. Outing them as far as what?
Starting point is 01:27:19 Telling the world. Sexuality? Yeah. If you about to start telling me about a criminal, then I'm not, then I'm not, I wasn't. Nothing criminal. Nothing criminal.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Okay. My beliefs are not based on. No, that, that, that, I ain't tripping. No, not that at all. I feel like you have a right to privacy unless you publicly attacking people for the thing that you are. That's when I start to feel a little different about it.
Starting point is 01:27:41 And people love to do that. For example, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I told you all the part of the story before. I was walking through Newark. And what you were going like that for? I'm waiting here to listen. The joke ain't on Newark. But they had a gay private.
Starting point is 01:27:57 But it could be. I mean. In any moment. There is a gay pride. festival there. Me and my wife lived in, um, was it brickyard?
Starting point is 01:28:05 No, not brickyard. I am bound. And so we were, uh, and so to get to her crib, we cut through. You know what I mean? And I saw this dude there.
Starting point is 01:28:16 He's a very prominent Muslim. Okay. He wasn't, he wasn't praying in this festival. Is he in politics? No. Okay. Let's just say he was
Starting point is 01:28:26 lower on his gaze. Oh, He was hiding. He was hiding. Oh, shit. I'm at the edge of my seat with, I want to do. Yo.
Starting point is 01:28:38 And I have seen his Facebook rants about homosexuality being evil and wrong, and they're going to hell and people, you know, disrespecting the community and ruining our families and all this shit. And then I see him there. And he looked different than he'd be looking on the Internet.
Starting point is 01:28:54 He looked different than he looks in the mosque. I bet. Yeah. Yeah, he's saying. Say shay. I never seen He's at a pride event It was a pride of it
Starting point is 01:29:03 Oh shit You're mad at it You're mad at a nodded up joy Yeah You're a fool And we're my wife was like Is that's We'll call him
Starting point is 01:29:12 Jamar His name of not Jamar I said that's Jamar She's like that's motherfucking Jamal And he tried to act like He didn't see me So as a dignified Respectable person
Starting point is 01:29:20 Who believes in people's having space They're on space And they're on dignity I was like Jamal Joe! Joe! Hey brother
Starting point is 01:29:26 Joe! Yo, what you doing? Jay Money. And what I tell you, Jabal? Hold that's. You can borrow him for a quarter, right? So, you go what? You could have bought him for a quarter.
Starting point is 01:29:39 You know, it's a country expression. I've heard it before. You're from Virginia, you don't know this? He's not really, we don't really know his background. This is a hater. He changed his shit up depending on the room. I never heard it either, though. So he comes over, nervous, shaking, looking, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:29:56 Now, he's talked shit about me in the past. before, too. Or on this day, he was my best friend. Of course. Hugs, how you doing? A lot of family. You need anything? No.
Starting point is 01:30:04 So we leave. And then the next day, he's back on his rants again. Okay. Maybe even, I might be reading into it, but it felt like even more than before. But definitely it was a lot what he was saying. The same shit. And apropos or nothing. At that moment, I would not out him.
Starting point is 01:30:23 But I don't feel guilty if somebody do. And if I was one of them people in the festival frolicking with him and I saw his page You would have to see you. You'll be offended. I could understand why they might want to. I agree, yeah. That's all. Yo, I was watching. You know I don't watch that shit
Starting point is 01:30:41 did you y'all be watching. The docks and shit. No, it was, nah, no, no. You picked the biggest genre. You don't be watching it. You don't have entertainment. My girl had one of them shits. What's the one y'all just was talking about? Gacy.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Yeah. Galey. Gacy. John Wayne They were talking about that a lot of those people be homosexual Yeah
Starting point is 01:31:02 We were supposed to talk about that last time And they said that it's some psychiatry Some psychosis shit Where they look at other gay people Like They're not gay The gay people are like Evil or crooks or some shit
Starting point is 01:31:15 They were just breaking down The psychology of it They kind of was like wow So that might It might tie into what you're talking about Like yo this dude is going out And renting Going crazy
Starting point is 01:31:24 But low key he get busy. And people a lot of times double down on that shit because they feel like Yeah, I know I was like that's a good And you see it all the time
Starting point is 01:31:33 with politicians I mean, how many of the Republicans get caught? Yeah, they get caught getting busy and those be the ones They're making laws against shit that they be doing. I mean shit, we see it in hip-hop.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Exactly. NBA young boy's mom right now is saying that home boy is in the closet That's why you're mad And that's why yada y'all. We'll get to that back and forth But she's saying that now. For me,
Starting point is 01:31:55 I understand that the same way you allow people to live in their truths, you allow people to live in their deception. Like if you are not a criminal, it is not I'm just, I'm talking about me. I'm not mad at your way of thinking, but no matter what you're saying,
Starting point is 01:32:11 I'm not going to be the person to do that to you. Because what you're doing, even though it's wrong, the greater cause for me are just how many people from that community end up killing themselves or harming themselves from being outed having to have conversation
Starting point is 01:32:27 with their family that hate gay people. It's too much at risk for me to just say, oh, you a dick, oh, you a dick. But stay there. Based on those rants, though, a lot of people are still committing suicide and fear and shame and, you know what I mean? And all that other stuff. Because you
Starting point is 01:32:45 rant and you're embarrassing them and you tormenting them verbally online, that same result could be the thing. I think most of America projects shit that they have a problem with on to other people. I don't think that's just a uniquely gay or LGBT thing. But I also think that it's different and I feel like gay people have been experiencing that forever. It makes me think of back
Starting point is 01:33:07 when the A's Adam and then we first started, the mayor back then, concious and known homosexual and you know what I mean? It's like I think that that's something that gay people experience and I also think it's a difference when you're outed by somebody that's in your community. So I feel like it depends on who's doing the out and how it's done. Because if it's done by you just said this and this is fucked up. and this got this many views and I just seen you at this festival
Starting point is 01:33:28 with fucking wings on. You had wings on in the thong. Fuck that bitch. But I think it would be accepted better if it was done by gay people. Even though it's still not right. I agree with you. It's not right.
Starting point is 01:33:38 I don't even, not even as far as the suicide and all. It's just wrong. It's not your business to tell. But a lot of times people hate that part of them so they just project real bad. And that's the psychology part. Just like the serial killers
Starting point is 01:33:50 that would be gay is shit and they get into this gay stuff almost like have gay sex and then murder the guy right after the gay sex. You know what I mean? It's a hate for what I'm doing, what I like, when I'm attracted to. But, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:01 And of course, Jamal might say, yeah, I'm secretly doing this. I still think it's wrong. You know what I mean? Don't listen to what I'm, don't follow what I'm doing, follow what I'm saying. I'm saying the right thing even if I fall short.
Starting point is 01:34:10 And that might be what they say. That's with the Republicans offense. I'm a center too, but still, it's still wrong. I don't take that position. It's different ways. And with a topic like that, there's no right or wrong. Right.
Starting point is 01:34:23 You get what I'm saying? But their position is that it is. that it is. They're saying it's, you know, like, it's objectively wrong and y'all going to hell and I'm trying to save you. And that's the shit I hate about it is that you're so stridently. Save yourself, money. For me, what you're saying happens. So I'm not trying to invalidate that experience. What I know to be much more common are gay people being treated a certain way just for existing. Yes. Right. And you know, my point is, because I agree with that. I guess it's just I feel like people like that, Jamal, again, not his real name, y'all. I feel like Jamal is, is what. of people making gay people feel bad for existing. But if you are gay... Yeah, but if niggas want to treat Jamar... If niggas want to bend the rules for Jamal, then go ahead and handle Jamal a certain way.
Starting point is 01:35:02 Like, I'm just saying my blanket, LGBT... I'm not... I'm against it. Yeah, I'm against outing in jail. I wouldn't even out... I didn't out Jamal, right? You know what I mean? And it's not my business, not my place. Jamal's seeing you in the pants and was like,
Starting point is 01:35:15 you know what? And he had this... We got a secret together. You didn't out him, but did you seek a picture? No. I'm not on that. Like, again, like, I'm not on that. Again, like, I could see that I hated, I hated, although I think he's an asshole, I hated the shame that I saw in his face and the guilt I saw in his face when I bumped into him and I said, I hate that the world is such a way that he has to feel this and that he can't be whoever he's supposed to be.
Starting point is 01:35:36 But the sympathy that I had for him was going the next day when I see him back on Facebook, making a whole generation of young gay people feel like that. Yeah, I'm just saying I'm not, that's me. That's me. I'm not telling anybody else how to live. Just just my own views with the shit. I agree. Like that's it. Yeah, I respect that about you too. I also respect the fact that when people do shoot at you. I mean, we joke up here all the time, but I'm talking about like out in the world. That shit bounces off.
Starting point is 01:35:58 You actually don't care. You're one of the few people, you know what we talking about earlier about offset when people like say they care but don't. You know what I mean? Or say they don't care but do. But really care. You really don't give a fuck. Yeah, no. I respect that.
Starting point is 01:36:09 It's a real thing. I've learned. I aspire to get to the level of Joe Button and not giving a fuck. Let me finish. Let me fix something that I say because I do that often. When I said that gay people have been experienced that forever, the first thing I think about is the AIDS epidemic and the mayor being a known person in the bathhouses
Starting point is 01:36:24 is getting down. People were begging for attention because all these people were dying from this disease that they called gay. So it was like this horrible epidemic and everybody's friends is dying, and the mayor is a known homosexual and we're not getting no type of attention
Starting point is 01:36:37 and people are dying. That's what I was trying to say. That makes sense. Got it. Got it. You old is her. Come on. I wasn't born.
Starting point is 01:36:45 I wasn't born. I wasn't born. I like documentaries. You old as hell. Yeah, I wasn't born when he was, I'm the mayor. Who cares that, in more music, who cares that there are no rap songs in the top 40 for the first time since 95? Not me, really.
Starting point is 01:37:02 Not me, really. They're making a big fuss of this online. That's interesting to me. They're pulling up a whole list of classic hip-hop records that never made the Billboard Top 40. It's sparking a lot of conversations. It is. It's interesting for sure.
Starting point is 01:37:16 But then they also change some rules. that make records fall out of the charts and shit. There was 15 Taylor Swift records from her new album in the top 10. Yeah, like, this is the game. They're going to tweak the rules and this is the result of it. And the pay-old.
Starting point is 01:37:30 They're legit. At the month. I mean, to me, the system is always rigged when you talk about rankings. So I don't care. Yeah, me neither. What I think is interesting is less that there's no rap songs
Starting point is 01:37:39 and top 40, but just how much good music has come out this year. So when I think about nothing being in the top 40, but these amazing projects being out right now, it makes me not give. It says more about Billboard than it does a rap to me. It further cements that from me. I felt like I should have seen more people echoing my sentiments, which was, I was happy about it.
Starting point is 01:37:59 It was celebratory time to me for all the reasons you just said. And respect to Billboard, I just left there two weeks ago. So, I mean, I don't want to sully my relationships here. Keep that relationship. Yeah, good, good. I know good people that work at Billboard and fucking variety, which we'll get to in a little bit time. I know good people over there. My views are my views, which are Billboard is a fixed system with their own rules that they change whenever they want.
Starting point is 01:38:29 And they work in conjunction with all of the other. The labels, the streamers, they just work in conjunction with. So if I'm not seeing any artists. then number one, I think that more artists have taken control of their brand. Right. That's a good point. I think that more artists are recognizing their brand power and utilizing it in ways that circumvent some of these fixed infrastructures that you can't do nothing with. A lot of these artists are popping without label support.
Starting point is 01:39:11 How you consume music now, right? Billboard don't account for, and that's the problem with Billboard. Billboard accounts for what they account for, and we'd have to look it up for me to know, because I'm a dinosaur, I'm far removed. But they're not accounting for impressions. Right. They're not accounting for engagement. They may have a chart for that, but it's not the chart that we're talking about.
Starting point is 01:39:31 It don't add up enough to change what they do and they're fixed. Like, I don't know about TikTok and Billboard. I don't know. But if TikTok and Billboard are not seeing eye to eye, it's because they in the back room are not seeing. eye to eye. The same with YouTube and fucking Disney. Like it's business at play. Or they haven't come around yet. They're not going to come around.
Starting point is 01:39:54 It's business. They're not going to come around. You go get it how you live it outside of us if you're not willing to play by our rules. So I was hopeful and happy that more people are fucking finding alternate means. I also just think there hasn't been much
Starting point is 01:40:09 mainstream hip hop from the big dogs that we usually see in the top 40 released recently. So it's a non- it's kind of a non-issue in that terms to me. If we were getting Kendrick and Cole and Drake and any of the Travis, whoever,
Starting point is 01:40:25 Kanye, if he was still in the system, having releases and they weren't showing up. That might be a different conversation. All of them niggas is the problem. I agree with what Parks is saying. We ain't had them so they not did. They all the problem. Travis,
Starting point is 01:40:42 all of these niggas, all of these niggas that dominate the rappers that dominate the Billboard the six of you. Right. Right? Because this problem existed before this happened. Right. Where it was six of y'all. It was covered up by them six, right. So yeah, if you're getting
Starting point is 01:40:57 your hip-hop news from Billboard, then you probably only know seven rappers all together. But, no. And back to the point. Luther would still be there. But it's still only one song. Right. So they changed the rules. Yeah, they changed the rules. And they said to Luther
Starting point is 01:41:13 would still be there, but it's still only one out of 40. But I'm saying, but that one, that one song not being there now makes it a thing. Right. Dog, outside of Kendrick and Drake, all of y'all need to go back to the drawing board. Outside of Kendrick and Drake and Future, maybe. Travis, I'm done with you. Uzi, I'm done. All of these other fucking label darlings, any time you other niggas pop up there, I assume it's because the label made sure you popped up there.
Starting point is 01:41:38 That is a fact. Yeah. I'm not putting it on your fucking star power or ability to a bad thing. appeal to an audience no more. That's go for three fucking people. So if y'all are happy with that, then have it. But don't front, like,
Starting point is 01:41:51 you're mad and disappointed now because no rap is there. Real hip-hop wasn't getting their hip-hop views from Billboard. You was getting it from somewhere else, outside somewhere. Go outside and see what's going on. In fact, look for people
Starting point is 01:42:03 that weren't on Billboard to find out of shit. You know what I mean? Like, that was at one point in time, that was a mark against the rapper. Even this whole thing, and this is my thing with the power of rap, even this is just a commercial for Billboard. Word.
Starting point is 01:42:16 Jay Z bar for everything. We was praising Billboard when we were young. Now I look at Billboard like, is you dumb? Like, we don't care. Yeah. Yeah. Billboard is for those who play the game. That was fly, ice.
Starting point is 01:42:40 That's it. There's a whole bar for everything that happens. It is. A lot of people are now finding success. side of the game yet you're not going to see success on Billboard. Great, like Joe said, we're here now. Awesome. Hey, let's continue to lay the blueprint for how future artists may be able to earn an income
Starting point is 01:42:54 without having to rely on some of these fixed systems. Right. I think that that's reason to celebrate. While you can, at least, because the second too many of y'all do it, here they come to take it over there. No, your dog, you can do it, nigga. You can go make millions of dollars and not be on
Starting point is 01:43:10 Billboard at all. No, no, I'm not saying a billboard. I'm talking about the label games. Like the second you all find, too many of y'all find a way to make money over here, it's a cat and mouse game. You get ahead, they catch it. Now y'all got to make another way, they catch it.
Starting point is 01:43:23 Well, the music business is reactionary, and that's a great point. Why do what's happening with Billboard even make us have a conversation about rap versus having a conversation about record labels? All of them niggas is fucked up. There you go. Hey, you're not seeing nothing in Billboard?
Starting point is 01:43:38 Because they all in a disarray. Yeah. Some of them are moving. some of them are dropping people. I'm still waiting on the Jack Hollow record. They still keep giving me fucking Tommy Richmond songs. Like, I'm still waiting on a lot of record. None of these labels know what they're
Starting point is 01:43:51 doing. Not one of them. If you see an artist out there that's moving like the label know what they're doing, it's because the artists know what they're doing and got a good fucking person or team behind us. The labels have got rid of all influential people that care about this shit, passionate about the shit, know about this shit.
Starting point is 01:44:07 It's a bunch of fucking suits and numbers and tech people. And we look into tech places to tell us about music, I'm not built like that. Never. No. Sorry. I don't care what the algorithm says. Me neither. Never have. Never was the algorithm. Let me just not even play that was epic because I agree everything that's been said, but the dominant music journalist
Starting point is 01:44:25 account of this, the narrative at least, is that this, even if all of what you all are saying is true, that there's still something to be said about the lack of engagement with mainstream rap music right now, that rap music is less popular with mainstream America than before. Is there any truth to that? Well, a lot of it sucks. mainstream rap
Starting point is 01:44:43 I'm talking about mainstream rap A lot of the mainstream artists A lot of the mainstream artists Ain't out Like we could say whatever we want My nigga Drake is Drake That's how much to say Like yo dog
Starting point is 01:44:54 Niggas want to not give him his props That nigger moves the needle In culture and in music And so the fact that he hasn't put out anything or anything quality In the long time That's a testament to him And back to what I said about him
Starting point is 01:45:06 He's gonna have a hard time Just because you can't sue people and not have a harder. And not have a harder stuff. So hip hop is going to do some things. What you're saying is true, but it's true for many reasons. Right. It's true for many reasons.
Starting point is 01:45:21 These niggas suck. Nobody's innovative. Right? Like, it's a breath of fresh year when you see somebody do something new. Yeah. The hip hop I come from, everybody did something new. That was the point. Every other year or so.
Starting point is 01:45:37 Yeah. Yeah. I just don't like them trying to make it seem like, because there's no rap on Billboard right now that all the rap is bad. There's no good music out there because that's a horrible...
Starting point is 01:45:50 Yeah, that's the part that I don't like. I didn't get that from that article. I got them kind of leaning more into the Drake-Kindrick beef as a result. I mean, this being the result of the Drake-Kindrick shit. Like if you read what they wrote, it was kind of leaning toward that.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Okay. But they kind of put a lot of it on the beef, right? But I didn't look at it like they were looking at it like hip hop has been trash. But look, that is true. He was A1 label baby. When we first started...
Starting point is 01:46:21 Playing the game. Exactly. I just remember when I first started doing music journalism in the odds, like around like 0, 3, 04 when I was really getting into it. The generation before me,
Starting point is 01:46:33 the Greg Tates, you know, the Dreamhamptons, the Joan Morgans, all those people, they were talking about how, the question they always were asked is how long is hip-hop going to be here? because there was that thing
Starting point is 01:46:41 this is a fad that's going to go away. The 90s still happened. When I got there, people were still asking us that question, but we didn't have to write about it anymore. And then it came a moment, like, maybe 10 years ago where it was like, wait, maybe this thing ain't going. Maybe this isn't disco. Maybe this is the thing that's just going to be here.
Starting point is 01:46:54 And now I'm starting to hear that bubble up again, like is rap on its way out. All right, we know, we're not even going to entertain it. I will not dignify such talk on this. As a mainstream, no, they're saying. It's someone on the mainstream. They're saying will it go to, is it going the way of? Yo, people, when people make you think that hip hop is just the music thing,
Starting point is 01:47:17 that's like to me some right wing. Hip hop is more than what the Jewish people are doing with the music. True. Hip hop is a lifestyle. True. That's a fact. And if you look at Louis Vuitton Runways, if you look at all of that shit, all of that shit is being influenced by us.
Starting point is 01:47:33 We're in the world. All that shit is being influenced by us. My nigga, Farrell sitting on these couch. in these boardrooms is a testament to hip hop. Agreed. Oh, I agree with it. You know what I'm saying? So I don't think hip hop is going nowhere. That's what I hate about the narrative that I'm seeing from this Billboard thing. I definitely remember that though, like when rap was still like, I definitely remember that
Starting point is 01:47:54 when rap was like, it was new. You know what I mean? It was still fairly new. And it just, we growing up through the 90s through the 2000s, it just, to me, it just got cemented because it infected everything else. You know what I mean? You spoke about. Us our slang words being slang words for the country versus our slang words. Like we really dicked. We're the movement is in the shakers.
Starting point is 01:48:15 We dictate like how shit going. What's cool? You know what I mean? We're getting put dictionaries based on our slang. You can't reverse that. You know what I mean? But I definitely remember like when it was like compared to disco and other things that went in and out and blah blah blah.
Starting point is 01:48:28 It's been here for 50 plus years. It's not going. It's not going anywhere at all. And there's too much great shit to even dignify this fucking. But also we got to just start asking the deeper question. We've had a million artists come up to this very platform and say, I'm not releasing music because I can't release music. True. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Like, some people don't control their output. One, two, what the fuck do the labels, kid? I got your digital rights. I got your TV rights. I have all the rights. You all sitting here bigging up fucking NPR and all these other places that give all the money to the record label. like talking about oh the artist musicianship what are you talking about so every year
Starting point is 01:49:11 or every other year or every three or five years whoever owns this stuff is going to negotiate with the who makes up the streamer people we step into YouTube we step into the people licensing music and we're negotiating so in that I might be holding some music when UMG stepped to TikTok and said what the fuck are y'all doing everything stops that's happening behind the scenes here
Starting point is 01:49:36 So music being plagued is not just a rap Rappers There's a lot of moving parts in this I have a question for you, right? What's up to Demos? I thought it was interesting just being up here with you
Starting point is 01:49:50 and you being so open and blunt about how fucked up the music industry is because people like you have to do that right? For people to get it out there you think back in the day like people know the industries were fucked up for black people
Starting point is 01:50:02 and things were outed but I feel like when I was growing up 90s 2000s, You didn't really see niggas go at the record label and be open with their pieces of shit and their fucking people. Exactly. You couldn't.
Starting point is 01:50:12 So now that we had a time where a nigga might tweak the record label, I mean, there I say it, some people might even push to where it's like they reach on their following and say, yo, this is what they're doing to me, y'all. Y'all love me. This is bullshit. This is what happens.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Or like when we had Queen Anja up here, she's talking about making a project saying, here, fucking take it. Just take it. You know, to let everybody know the feelings. My question is, when it's so open and it's so widely known now, what the fuck would have to happen for that to change?
Starting point is 01:50:40 Because it's wrong and everybody knows. And it doesn't happen. It doesn't even exist without us. Without the artists, not us. I think today you can make your soup a different way. Just go a different route. Back in the day, everything was controlled. Now, most of it is controlled, but there's some options for you.
Starting point is 01:50:57 Again, I always ask people, like when I sign my record deal, I had to sit with myself and say, what do you want out of this? for me, that answer was I want to be the best the best MC not make the best single I had never even tried to make a single I want to have the best album
Starting point is 01:51:15 I never even thought of an album before I want to be able to walk in the room with all the rappers and when I rap they understand what time is every artist got to figure out what they want from this shit that's why when Amani was here talking another day about somebody
Starting point is 01:51:26 giving them opportunity I can't speak to that right because that's not my that's not my wheelhouse anymore I've unprogrammed myself from that Once I learned that I could sell 13,000 copies of a project and make more than I could if I sold 75,000 copies of a project over here, I was cool.
Starting point is 01:51:44 Right? Now you could go to fucking, what's all the fucking shit to fucking, where Pat worked at? Tune core. Oh, yeah, yeah. You can go to your tune core. Shit, Instagram will pay you. TikTok a pay you.
Starting point is 01:51:55 YouTube will pay you. You can sell it on your own. Put the link tree in your shit. If you make music, find a way to sell it. Elibiate the middleman and just do that for your life. I promise you you'll be fine. Yeah. And honestly, people sharing, when you sharing your personalities,
Starting point is 01:52:08 that was my experience on internet. You share your personality like you. They buy anything you have to sell. So if you are a musician that you're not shy, you won't have a problem sharing some shit. Do more of that because that might look like you doing a project and making it 50 bucks. They're going to buy it because they love you.
Starting point is 01:52:25 That's the difference. That comes full circle to the AI conversation, which is another full circle in here somewhere. But the AI shit is cool, but long term, if people don't give a fuck about you, you, they're not going to really give a fuck about the music. It might be a slap in there that people put on play, but there's no money in streaming.
Starting point is 01:52:41 I'm here to tell you if someone who's released a bunch of shit on streaming, unless you have bazillion streams, which you often pay for, there's no money in that. So cool, make your shit and put it on the internet. Who gives a fuck? Maybe you'll make a slap. Cool.
Starting point is 01:52:53 But it's not really that important. It's going back to your, what do you want, combo? There's a lot of people getting in hip-hop as a stepping stone to get somewhere else. True. They heart not really in this. This is just a lick.
Starting point is 01:53:08 I'm going to get in here, get hot, and then move over here where I'm going to make the money and be famous and do it X, Y, Z. This is just an introduction. And it reflects in, and they are. Dog, go write a commercial. Go write a jingle. I think niggas.
Starting point is 01:53:24 They're nine to 20 seconds. Spend your time doing that. If you have children, Put a camera in front of those little motherfuckers. Facts. Especially if they little. Do it. Yes.
Starting point is 01:53:39 Are you shitting me? Anything my son pressed on YouTube is at $70 million. What? That's true. Anything you press is at $70 million. I'm not talking to you people that, hey, my family is my private. Somebody's going to come to that.
Starting point is 01:53:54 I'm not talking to y'all. That's your prerogative. Right. But if you're on some different timing and you want 70 million views, Hey, go explain how that vacuum work with your kid in the back of. Seven. I came in here and was telling you all the niggas during COVID what Ms. Rachel was doing,
Starting point is 01:54:08 and she was doing three and four and five hundred million without a manicure and chapped lips. Shout out to Ms. Rachel. She's a real thing. Shout out to Ms. Rachel. She's real. Ms. Rachel like my nanny in my head. Come on.
Starting point is 01:54:21 Come on. Let me tell you something. Ms. Rachel is willing to wish all the motherfucking views to stand on her platform and say free Palestine and speak for people that they need her voice. She's, she's, Miss Rachel's a real one. You're a real-ass bitch, Ms. Rachel.
Starting point is 01:54:33 I love her. Never heard her name again. She's a real, little. Rachel. Hey. And that was the last day. Thank you. Yeah, that was that.
Starting point is 01:54:43 That's how the doc ends. She might as well come host up here. No, I love that. I mean, it's admirable. A lot of people went and risking like that. And they, because a nice amount of her feet pace turned their back on her. Did you hear that Dave song, by the last song of the album?
Starting point is 01:54:58 No. He talks about it. I'll play it for you later. Okay. Did you see that the UMG and UDO, the AI company, also settled this week, coincidentally while all this hubbub about the top 40 was... That's what I'm saying. Niggas is doing deals in the background.
Starting point is 01:55:12 Fucking stupid fans is talking about some shit. I mean, I ain't paying these fiends no money. I'm paying these things no more. But no, I didn't... Yeah, the company, it's... I think where B.B. L. Drizzi was created on the platform. They think I'm one of them. But what's interesting about it is, at least in the press releases,
Starting point is 01:55:28 is the artists that are getting used in this AI modeling will be compensated how that looks and I'm sure it'll be bullshit. Please, yeah. Sound like a lie. Yeah. No, even if what's the compensation? And I'm sitting here doing all this.
Starting point is 01:55:40 That's the other thing. Like, I don't even talk about this topic, really, because I know most of y'all are signing your rights away voluntarily. So I'm not really talking to myself. Right. Like, I'm the model of what I want to see in the community. You niggas is fucking pay. for play.
Starting point is 01:56:00 Y'all do whatever the fuck they tell y'all to do. So is some of you are out there right now who don't have you, who don't even have your AI rights? Yeah. Mm. Dog.
Starting point is 01:56:11 Like, I ain't about to come in here and keep preaching the niggas. Are you crazy? I used to talk about niggas just using it as a stepping stone to go to something else. Somebody's using niggas is using it as a stepping stone
Starting point is 01:56:21 to get out the pissy hallway. Like, fuck. Niggas can't even think about the next step. Niggas is thinking about getting the foot. fuck out this hallway when niggas is selling
Starting point is 01:56:31 scag every day. No, when I say that, I mean, we talk about people like caring about the art and shit. I'm just saying, like, that's not the purpose for joint getting into hip hop.
Starting point is 01:56:38 Listen, it's Halloween. I don't want to beat people down with this. It's Halloween. Y'all making me man because I'm really passionate about this stuff. But I do want to stay on this AI topic
Starting point is 01:56:46 for two seconds. Do you guys know rest in peace, Suzanne Summers? Of course. Damn. Did y'all see the story about her husband?
Starting point is 01:56:58 She's been dead, though. Suzanne Summers has been dead forever. She and her husband were married for 50-something years, 60-something years. Now that she's gone, the husband has made an AI doll that he says he doesn't like to call AI. He likes to call it her twin. And he says... Does that to make it less creepy? He says that Suzanne Summers wrote 27 books before her death, and these were her
Starting point is 01:57:28 wishes that they program to this AI model because he's not ready to live a life without the person that he married. I'm not mad at that. I do want to ask everyone here their thoughts on that. I'm not. I told you all before. I think it's weird. I thought that's, remember I said a long time that's where I've envisioned all of this shit going anyway. Transferring consciousness. Yeah, yeah. That's like step one. What do you say? Transferring consciousness. Like when your body, some, we see it in a million movies. Like your body is a show. It's a host. So if they can take your brain or your whatever and put it in another physical
Starting point is 01:58:02 soul for lack of a better word that's what they're vying for we see it in a bunch of now they're building it bro bro no fuck no I'm not I'm not forward I'm just talking about I'm mad at it I don't know if I would I think I would one of things I'm freaked out about it that's weird
Starting point is 01:58:17 often the audience when we're off camera a lot of times I tell my colleagues that if something God forbid would happen to my wife she was abducted by aliens got hit by a bus or something like that that I would immediately be aliens let's stick with the aliens live a life of solitude and loneliness. And this seems like it offers an alternative to that.
Starting point is 01:58:34 You know what I mean? Where you can still have that partner that you want. I'm shocked. That's one thing about living is a part of it is death. It's just what we fucking do. I know that we can update things and make everything easier and accessible, but we should not make it so that you can put your grandma and Barbara in your fucking in a robot. Did you say grandma?
Starting point is 01:58:52 You know, I'll come back to grandma with this one. Listen, when it, at the end of the day, the fact that you, you know, you go through through life and you get this acceptance and you know that that's the end and you have something even when people change you want to get better before you death where people think about heaven or hell or whatever I don't think we should upset the order of that you get to spend a certain amount of time when this fucking play then you go nigga it's over my nigga man that's I hate that I hate that I agree with her I think that even like we all are 40 plus right and I think that when we go remember our lives when we were 20 and we were just doing stupid
Starting point is 01:59:27 shit thinking that oh i got time oh i got time i'm not going to do that because i got time when you get to a certain age you like no time is finite right and so let me get to it if you know that you could just not die or y'all could just keep transferring my consciousness then you're not going to be motivated to do nothing because you know you got time i got kids later when you and when you know how many women i know that put off having children until they realize damn i don't have a certain amount of time in which to have children. Let me get this done. They thought you would spin. And then they thought, look, look. It was waiting on you.
Starting point is 02:00:01 You let them down. Now there's technology to those that after a while couldn't, they're still having children. Look at this lady, man. This is not Suzanne something else. No, no, no. That's my thing. This is step one. Like, that's my thing. This is step one, fam. Oh, yeah. It'll get better. That's all I'm
Starting point is 02:00:17 saying. I'm not. Yo, I mean, have you seen the movies? I've seen a bunch of them. Blackbeard. Can we be honest? You don't have to put the books it heard to fuck that doll. That's all that man doing with that thing. I don't think. Okay.
Starting point is 02:00:29 He's definitely fucking that dog. He's not listening to shit that bitch saying. But that's also like the movie I came in here and asked you all about where old boy bought the doll to fucking the wife got jealous and yada yada yada yada yada. Yeah. I think it's a little deeper than that. I think it's a little more mental. If I'm fucking the doll, nigga, check me in somewhere.
Starting point is 02:00:47 Bro. Even though I'm not king shaming. Yo. I get it. Hold on. I'll be what. I fuck the Fifi, nigga. So you ain't got to talk to me.
Starting point is 02:00:53 I get what you said. It wasn't a body attached too many times up here. I'll talk about Fipi's too many times up here. I'll be trying to relate to Hush. You're a jailbird. The gross. Yeah, what's y'all got on the female side? Yeah, what's a girl Fifi called?
Starting point is 02:01:06 A BB? No, I've seen girls make strapp ones and dildos. I don't know. In tespines. Like underwear, you make the strap on with the underwear. The dildo is usually like, usually internally pins. Then you do maxi pads around it. And a lot of maxi pads, then you do rubber gloves.
Starting point is 02:01:21 Now you've got a rubber hard whole dick. You're not going to beat the allegations. I've never had any pussy. You don't know if I get some pussy because I'll be in your bitch phone. Stop playing. You don't want me to try pussy. Trust me.
Starting point is 02:01:33 Stop playing with demona. Really, though. But no, seriously. Eat your bitch out, nigga. They do. They do. We made tin pines in jail. We made pants.
Starting point is 02:01:43 It don't give you nothing. You don't have no supplies. You got to do what you got to do. And unfortunately, they don't sell dildos on commissary. Would you believe it? No, but I think that, I think it's morally wrong. Don't even bring in religion or whatever. I just think that even learn how to deal with grief
Starting point is 02:01:57 and getting past that, you know, or having a certain respect for people that left your family and we remember them and we have events and stuff like that. It's like, you are supposed to go. I don't, there's no way. Some of the stuff that we do here when it's planning as humans, it should stay that way.
Starting point is 02:02:11 Like really. See, I think that's the next step in humanity, man. Because what you said was that you would do it. You would totally put your lady in the fucking dog. You said that. I didn't say that. I said that. And what you're saying is not humanity.
Starting point is 02:02:24 I'm just saying I'm talking about So whatever I'm with you that there will be a next step I'm again My pushback is I don't think We will be here for it No we won't
Starting point is 02:02:35 We might not be We're starting It should be escalating quick though We're starting Technology I mean And it might be right around the time We need it Like when we in our 70s
Starting point is 02:02:42 And our 80s That's still 30 40 years from now That shit might be right You know what I mean You gotta look at the dial size You gotta look at the downside They come out with something While I'm 80 now
Starting point is 02:02:52 Hold up thinks about the positive. What's the negative side? Donald Trump is president forever. Forever! Nika, no, overpopulation. It's a whole bunch of other things that are going to take place. We already scrapping and clawing for resources now. So imagine when motherfuckers is not dying and leaving the planet,
Starting point is 02:03:09 where the resources are going to do? But it's a robot. He's not eating. He's not doing this? Like my ears in? Listen, it's your house. And listen, I just watched this random TikTok where it was like, it was like three or four minutes of old people saying, I'm ready to die. Literally. birthday parties for grandma she make a wish she blows the candle I hope I die
Starting point is 02:03:26 all people will be ready to fucking go like even having that feeling of like I did my job here my titty's on my knees I'm ready to see Jesus It's nothing wrong with that I just I'm almost surprised that more of y'all are not where me
Starting point is 02:03:40 it's and Joe are like what the fuck I'm okay I am I'm sorry Because what about when they start doing it without your fucking consent Go ahead then you close us Because for me but for me right and one of y'all can close us out still.
Starting point is 02:03:53 I'm still down with the reports that was coming out about niggas paying to go freeze themselves and get unfrozen laid on. Like I haven't left that part of reincarnation or freezing. I haven't left that yet. So to skip to all right, you're dead and that's it.
Starting point is 02:04:10 And now I'm taking all your shit and putting in AI, I can't get jigger with that. I just feel like every generation confronts technology that makes us rethink what life is and what natural is. from freezing eggs to there's time people in comas and resuscitation and all that shit people like no they're supposed to die let them die like that's nature like we always confront this and I think it always seems weird to us but the next generation it might be normal so I'm I'm not with it either in all jokes aside but I could empathize for somebody who would be did anybody see did anybody see Kim Kardashian say that the moon landing wasn't real oh please I missed that one dang I need to see it well it's only a thing because of like a real scientist that was involved with the shit replied to her and was like, big dog. We were
Starting point is 02:04:55 there, we were there a few times. I can meet with you, I can teach you. The niggas that be educated when they're reading you, it's so nice and sweet and polite. It makes you feel warm. I can meet with you and educate. I can show you the studio where we filmed it.
Starting point is 02:05:11 I'm not mad at her, though. Listen. You don't believe the moonlanders? Fuck no. I'm not doing this anymore though, no. Okay. See, I'm not willing to say that publicly. I would say it because I don't believe. You shouldn't. What I will say is I believe Kim Kardashian knows things that we don't.
Starting point is 02:05:31 I do feel good saying that. I feel good saying that's put a lot of faith in the couple. I know Jay the sex tape. I stand with him. But niggas is like, we know. On the news this morning, they was like, oh, Kim Kardashian, oh, we were looking to hear from her. Let's hear from. And I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:49 But I do. I do believe she knows some shit that other people don't. I think there are things she knows, especially in politics in the world that she operates in. When it gets to science, I probably am. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that part. I have less faith in. You know, she can't, that money, certain types of money put you in certain types of rooms. And I think we, we.
Starting point is 02:06:08 Oh, tripper. And I really believe this to be true about her mom. So I believe that she talks to her mom. I think her mom knows some of the dad secret. They know some shit. See, I don't like the thought that someone has a lot of money. so they know shit. It's putting wealth in...
Starting point is 02:06:23 I agree. I said access. Praise. Whatever. There's mad, rich people that are not very bright. They just were intuitive and genius
Starting point is 02:06:32 in some type of operation. So, like, a whole bunch of very rich people in a room doesn't mean necessarily to me that they have some secret meaning of life or anything else. I agree with that.
Starting point is 02:06:40 There's a bunch of... It could be a bunch of rich, stupid people in a room saying dumb shit. Can the room give me three people that are very rich and dumb? Donald's... I'm not doing that. I'm going to be rich.
Starting point is 02:06:51 Donald Trump. Because we say that a lot and I believe that. It's going to be hard. What does dumb mean? What's rich? See, all right, I'm done. I clock out. We got to do that.
Starting point is 02:07:00 It's so annoying. That's what I'm saying. What side is going to get? I don't like smart and I don't like labeling people smart or dumb for that reason because to me it's always about context. Donald Trump. See, and I don't think that's true. I don't think he's dumb.
Starting point is 02:07:12 And this was my point that I made when we was having a conversation before about we know what we're talking about. Have y'all heard him talk? You could be smart and. some area. And you could be a total fucking Neanderthal in other areas. That don't mean you dumb. It's some people, like the analogy I gave,
Starting point is 02:07:28 you could be a brain surgeon and know nothing about finance. That means you're not stupid, my nigga, you just are not knowledgeable in that particular facet of life. That don't mean you stupid. You could be an entrepreneur, no, absolutely nothing about space. I would love to. Exactly. I would love... You could be a boxer and can't read. I would love to hear what
Starting point is 02:07:44 topic that Donald Trump has ever spoke on, what things that he's ever taking place in. Investing in real estate. Real estate and investing. Okay, yeah, we just want to agree to disagree. Right. Because that's crazy. I will also make a distinction.
Starting point is 02:07:57 How much failure that motherfucker had? He learned from all the fucked up and small mistakes he made. He's a bum. That's what you learned from. But let's really talk. Fuck it. The father was in the real estate. So he talked about somebody.
Starting point is 02:08:08 Your father basically laid the blueprint. He switched it up because the father was in residential ghetto shit, no apartments, right? But still, if y'all had a dad that was in real estate, when you started, would you had that many bankruptcies? Would you fuck up as much? he did, that boy is dumb. He's an idiot.
Starting point is 02:08:23 He made bad decisions. He shouldn't have gotten to Lany City because he was a bad idea. But bankruptcies are good bankruptcies are great business decisions. Yes. Because what it allowed him to do was not pay his vendors, not pay the contractors, not pay all of these people. All the good people of
Starting point is 02:08:40 Jersey, they did they too. There's no good people of Jersey, but your points will take you. Thank you. That's why you're here. Clean it up. Yo, but again from a business perspective, because I think it's weasel shit, but from a business perspective, if I can run up $300 million worth of debt and then file a document that says, yo, I'm bankrupt now and I don't have to pay $300 million a debt, that's a great business
Starting point is 02:09:00 decision that he was taught. So his father, and I don't like Donald Trump, and it sound like I'm capable. I know, I know, I know, I'm being objective. If my father left me $2 million, $3 million, that's a head start. And I took that $2 or $3 million and turned it into $500 million or $500 million or $2 billion. you can't say that I'm dumb. Right. Because there's a lot of motherfuckers that leave
Starting point is 02:09:22 their kids money and they do nothing with it. They squander it. I just read an article about Homeboy from a different world. Ron. Duane Wayne's man. His father left him mad bread. They said that nigga ran through the bread and squandered everything. So it takes a certain level of intelligence
Starting point is 02:09:38 and navigating the New York City versus the mob and all that shit in gambling to get where he got. Yeah. And I just feel the opposite. The bankruptcy probably was the wrong example. I feel like for a person to have a head start like your father giving you a loan and have that record in real estate
Starting point is 02:09:53 and when you look, if you really look at his past his start in real estate, I just feel like he's stupid. Like he makes bad decisions. Even how many businessmen that made great money would have gotten to politics,
Starting point is 02:10:02 that was stupid. Him even saying, let me be the president made no fuck his power play. His family, what's president? Fuck him, my mom.
Starting point is 02:10:09 Stop, stop, his family, they say, on record, has made a billion dollars every month that he's been the president. And close me out. You close me out. So you can't now say
Starting point is 02:10:18 that that's bad decision making getting into politics because it gets me the access to do other shit and be around other people and be in other rooms that I could mask my real goals in politics. On to, because we still not leaving music, on to an
Starting point is 02:10:34 argument that I feel like we've had up here a bunch, but it's come up again. So I'll ask you guys again. Jay-Z versus the field in a versus. He loses. There's Jay-Z audio. I mean, I feel like it's old audio
Starting point is 02:10:50 It is. It is. I don't know why this is a fucking thing again. Because the Versus. Because Versus is back. And now they're trying to coax who can JZ to be in the Verses. It makes sense. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if Tim would never do it up. Swiss knows Jay Z would never do a version.
Starting point is 02:11:04 And Timblin knows Jay Z would never do a verse. Still gets more Versus talk going on. But now it gets more Versus talk. So maybe an artist that may not be Jay Z now put his hat in the ring. Right. Okay. So I'm just going to ask you all quickly and hope that it doesn't go into like a full rage.
Starting point is 02:11:17 I don't want to. It's only two people. That's more than the stage. It's more than the stage. I do it. Do it. Say it. I think it's only Drake and Kanye.
Starting point is 02:11:24 Got it. Freeze. I hate it. We going to 20. Drake and Kanye. I heard you. I don't even want to say it in this room. Honestly.
Starting point is 02:11:37 Because. Why? Because of y'all. I'm not going to fight with you. You got to say Gucci? No. He's going to say some Westco's. Do you say Wayne?
Starting point is 02:11:45 I don't say Wayne. Sexy Red. Future is a hard time. Oh, future. Future is a very hard time for Jay Z universes. That's a weird matchup, but yeah. A very hard time. Very hard time.
Starting point is 02:11:58 Okay. I think for the matchups, they would actually make sense on paper from, you know, in entertainment standpoint, I think, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 02:12:04 and Drake, probably, I'll put in a conversation. I don't put Kendrick. It would be a fight. I'm just saying people that could put a fight. Anybody that can, you need somebody that can go
Starting point is 02:12:15 wherever Hove can go. Like, all right cool you got you got a hard barred up record I can go here you got a hit record I can go here you got a girl record I know you got a clever like you need it's really a select Tia another one I stay so sick of you as the New York
Starting point is 02:12:30 Southern nigga I'm not a New York whatever you're so tired of ice I don't care about don't tell me what they think about me I don't care I'm being me saying Southern shit I don't know the future I don't know the future wait wait hold on mute up mute up I just said I'm not saying I wasn't doing this with your
Starting point is 02:12:46 And you said you wasn't going to fight with you. You said that with Future and I didn't fight with you. I said, names. I said, I only want to say this because I don't want to fight with y'all. You're not saying with your whole dick, not tuck, that T.I. does anything with Jay Z. I'm saying this is why this conversation is nuts. I'm saying that it's a lot of songs. It's a lot of songs.
Starting point is 02:13:05 And somebody that can go wherever. Are you saying that T.I. is one of those people? Yes, I am. Yes, I am. Stamp it. Yes. Ice. I don't care who.
Starting point is 02:13:14 I don't care that you all don't agree. I don't care. I don't get 20 for Jason. And I love Tia. I love Tia. Shout out to Tia. All right, so next topic, man. Go listen.
Starting point is 02:13:24 I'm not a minute. I would say part of it is also... Part of it, I think is generation. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I said so I can go to sleep audio nightquil. Poppy. Hey, shut up. Poppy.
Starting point is 02:13:35 All you all, y'all, y'all want me, right? Possible, you know? I was chilling. I tried to chill. Bring their rural ninja out. Come to do. Dragon Flachos. Bring the world ninja house.
Starting point is 02:13:45 Bring the world in jail. Go ahead, Mark. All I was going to say was... But he know all the silk to shock... Every last one of them. You're going to go to sleep when the world is yours come on. The world is mine.
Starting point is 02:13:57 Go ahead, Mark. All I was going to say is I think a little bit of his generation. I don't think nobody gets Hope out of there, but when I talk to people... Like, when I talk to, like, my kids or people of that generation, they think nobody gets Drake out of there.
Starting point is 02:14:07 And so I think Drake's 20 does match Hoves 20 if you're 25 years old. For me, it doesn't. So that's the toughest out for me. The tough is out from our job. generation, I think is Ye. Because Ye's also going to bring his stuff that he produced, and I think that just makes it a tougher matchup.
Starting point is 02:14:21 But I take Hove over everybody in the universe. I take Jay-Z over everybody. Hope is the goal. I think only two people can stand on stage, and that's Kanye and Drake. I think everybody else is going to fall short. Like, I don't. Future got some bangers, but you say he got barred up records. I don't see nothing where Future could sit down and put his
Starting point is 02:14:39 favorite lyrical record out, and Jay-Z is going to demolish the level. Again, and I would have to go with one of my the Trump cards to play against that. Gotcha. That's all. If we bring it back, if we do the versus is coming back, we also need to bring back more, like, celebrity boxing matches. Like, I don't get as exciting about a versus as I get at the thought of, like, Judge Mathis and Judge Joe Brown fighting.
Starting point is 02:15:03 Like, I would love to see that. See, I don't, because these things, when I watch these celebrity, they, like. I would pay for it. I'd pay, no, or MC Shan and Will. Facts, shit like that. I would love to see Joe Brown. and Judge Mathis, and I want him to argue like what the battle rappers do first, and then
Starting point is 02:15:19 rumble. I just want to see my beat this shit out of Joe Brown. No, for sure, Judge Mathis. He's on my least favorite people in the world. Joe Brow can't fuck with Judge Mathis. I want to fight some of you podcasters too. I ain't going to like that. Yeah, we could definitely do the pie fighting. I'm with that. On God. On God. Set it up. Seriously. I know, I know y'all going to think
Starting point is 02:15:35 I'm joking because I'm pardon. Set it up. There are a few podcasters that I would not mind putting the shit on and going to a park somewhere and beating the absolute dog shit out of. Just because of your style of pardon. Me and Joe back to back is a scary sight. How many on your list?
Starting point is 02:15:50 It ain't a lot that I want to do that with. Three or four. That's only two. No, it's not. No, it's not. I know two. I know two. I know two.
Starting point is 02:16:00 I got to get beat up. Just because that's, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Homeboy Duke. He another one. Put him in there. And I'm not saying that it's beef because niggas hear this shit and take it the wrong way.
Starting point is 02:16:13 I like. But. Come to Central Park. There's a few of y'all that y'all can come to the park and get pause put on y'all for PlayPlay. Or pause put on me. Paper. I'm right.
Starting point is 02:16:24 Yeah. That'd be great. You might. Put it together. This is my other podcast. I'm with that shit. No. I'm with that shit.
Starting point is 02:16:32 No, because then I got to speak to him. No. I don't want to speak. That's gross. How your people speak. I don't want to speak to nobody. You ain't got to talk to nobody. But the niggas, the niggas I'm following strangers that are by the monkey bars
Starting point is 02:16:44 in their head gear. Some of them in New York on cement. Like, I'm following sickos. It seems to be a budding business also of just meeting up, scrapping. When it's over, it's over. Like, it's a ref. It's a real thing.
Starting point is 02:17:02 It's not me just talking shit. But I think that that could be really profitable for podcasts. We can even donate some of the money to our favorite charity. We can do Turkey Drive. We can fight at the Turkey Drive. I fight some of them. You got a list on them? One of these niggas break your way.
Starting point is 02:17:17 And you podcasts look flabby and sick. I quit smoking and I'm in the gym three to four times a week. You niggas look flabby and sick. I'm with all the shit. I was beating you niggas up out the gym before. I'm totally with this now. I trust my hands.
Starting point is 02:17:30 I'm sorry. I'm sorry you don't. I'm sorry you don't. Joe would a swobble. I'm sorry you don't. Shit you're dumb. Man, you need to put the fucking gear on this. You ain't say nothing?
Starting point is 02:17:39 On the top of my head probably. You got a new dog. You got four? Yeah. for her but I was one I once wait oh I want that big bad it's not all you think I've never said her name on his platform
Starting point is 02:17:52 yeah I love more I really love all of you I do you guys are great what else what else what else what else did he got his first assignment don't stop it did he is in four dicks like I told you all
Starting point is 02:18:06 he was gonna go what you mean no no I mean he got his first prison assignment inside of dix oh where he's he's in jerks he's in dicks he's in four dicks And he's in charge of clothes. He's in charge of laundry. He's in laundry? He's in breaking news.
Starting point is 02:18:17 Yeah, he's in laundry. That's surprising they put him in laundry. Tell me why. I don't know. Like, Kim worked in the warden's office. She cleaned the Warren's office. They kind of keep them separate. Laudry is like a basic job like the kitchen.
Starting point is 02:18:28 Everybody's like, so maybe he's in laundry. So maybe he's in laundry, but they got him like just in the corner doing something. Because they're not going to just sit him on a line foating what niggas is not. Or maybe he's trying to blend in. I hear a lot of, a lot of... You don't have that choice. Are you saying because...
Starting point is 02:18:41 You know what I'm saying? Like they don't, you, sometimes you go you directly in a hole. It's for your protection. But Fort Dix is a law. No, not in Fort Dix. Yeah. No, I'm just saying, I'm saying some situations you're directly in a hole, but I mean, he's doing a bit. I'm sure he's not in a hole, man.
Starting point is 02:18:53 What, Fort Dix? I think it's a law. I don't think so, no. My dad cried for weeks when you turn about Fort Dix. It's levels inside of Fort Dix. Yeah, it's more than one, I think. If you end Fort Dix, it's a luxury and it's a privilege and thank God before they they ship you out to somewhere else.
Starting point is 02:19:07 They said they got him cleaning clothes is what they're directly with it said. If you clean in the floor with your tongue, in Fort Dix and somebody that has to do a sentence, you should be happy in New Jersey. No, I'm telling you. You're different between something with your tongue. Niggas was living great in Fort Dix. It could have gone a different way for you.
Starting point is 02:19:22 Shows of Cus. Listen. Free you. Whoa, you free now. I know a lot of y'all out there, don't fuck with Amanda Seals. I love Amanda Seals. I love Amanda Seals. She's my friend. She's my friend, my dear
Starting point is 02:19:33 friend, my sister, my homie. I like her. What do you know? I felt bad when I was, Amanda Seals done said some stupid shit before did I disagree with? She has. However... I think she's got a good intention.
Starting point is 02:19:45 I feel like the people don't know and she may not know, but I really fuck with Amanda Seals, but I don't say it enough. I'm glad you said that. People don't say it enough. And my last time speaking to her, she expressed something like that
Starting point is 02:19:59 to me. Like, yo, dog, we go back to fucking college days. Like, nigga, when they talk about me, like, if anybody understand it should be you. And I think she's absolutely right about that. So shout out to Amanda Seals. I love you. I hope you're doing well.
Starting point is 02:20:13 Love you. And boy, I laughed for about 45 minutes. I just clipped that Amanda Seals put out the other day. I didn't hear the clip. Oh, I got to hear this. I did. Okay. Okay, this is great.
Starting point is 02:20:22 This is great. Because we don't know if we talk about Amanda Seals. But I had to write this down. I got a bunch of bullshit topics here, and this is one of them. So Amanda Seals went on a rant about a movie that Kiki Palmer is executive producing. Okay. How do it? Oh, no, I can't because that's a set up question.
Starting point is 02:20:38 What do you think about Kiki Palmer? I fuck with her. I think she has a great attitude. I don't know enough to make a judgment. I've been through some shit with Kiki. I rock with her. I think she's a winner too. She's consistent because, you know, that's a killing to be.
Starting point is 02:20:51 Yeah. You know what I mean? Shout to her and her beautiful mama. Yeah, she definitely comes off like she's a nice person or she's like, you know, easy to be around. I'm never a matter. Kiki Palmer is executive, is the executive producer on a film that is putting,
Starting point is 02:21:05 that is showcasing and highlighting an Asian woman's experience going to an HBCU. This sounds like it could be funny. It's a comedy? Congress executive producing about the Let's go, man. Wait, and before I play this, that's why we need Amanda Seals.
Starting point is 02:21:25 Yeah. Regardless of what you think about her. And, I mean, I know about that bullshit. She says you walked back. We offer that. But this is why we need Amanda Seals. Because all of y'all are just going to say, I love Kiki Palmer.
Starting point is 02:21:38 She's great. I don't know that about her. She's amazing. Man, listen. Fuck out of here. All right. Heke Palmer's executive producing about the Asian girl at the HBCU.
Starting point is 02:21:51 Like, what are we talking about? Why is that a movie that needs to be made? She's right. Black community needs a leader like me than more. No. What is the black community? No. I disagree with this part.
Starting point is 02:22:09 Well, I say, no, I don't. She goes on explaining. No, I don't want to leave the black community. Nope. Come on. I'm interested in community that is about collective liberation. That's what I'm about. Collective liberation for all.
Starting point is 02:22:32 You know, the Black Panthers? Like, they had a 10-point program. And within that 10-point program, I believe the first one was, power to the people all power to all people No Joe Biden And she goes on the rant So I don't need to play this
Starting point is 02:22:51 But her first statement of Why do we need this Who asked for this And why is this the story that we're telling I think we're all amazing points That need to be said And somebody need to say And all y'all pussy so y'all won't
Starting point is 02:23:07 So we need a man to seals to say it But in the movie The girls adopted it. So she's raised by black parents. That's an important caveat. She's raised by black parents. So her experience growing up is that. So in college, she still wants that to continue, hence the Asian girl ending up at the HBCU.
Starting point is 02:23:30 If this is not a big deal and a nothing burger to you guys, please feel free to say it now. It is not a nothing burglings to me. I think it's interesting. Same. The conversation. And I agree with Amanda. thousand percent on this. Same. Same.
Starting point is 02:23:43 You know, there are a million stories to tell in Hollywood. They don't all have to be told, though. And when we have such a small slice of the pie anyway, to devote that much energy, I mean, there's a lot of great HBCU stories we could tell.
Starting point is 02:23:59 To tell a story about the one Asian person raised by black people who go to HBCU seems like an extravagant waste of time, to me. It's another American slap in the face to black people, to me, and then they always go get one of us to fucking walk, walk the dog to us.
Starting point is 02:24:15 Like, nah, that's the thing. That's the thing. You know what it makes me think of? It makes me think of the whole, like, you hit the nay-nay and then we in the comments, like, you could come to the cookout, Billy. It's just, we just always giving where we got, we, you know, we ushering or we helping or we assisting.
Starting point is 02:24:29 It's just, I just think that today's climate is just not the time. I just think it's bad timing. I don't know if it was ever would be good timing to do some shit because hourly we think about it, it's probably funny. It's probably, you know, Like funny to watch.
Starting point is 02:24:41 That's what I'm saying. Our gift is our curse. Black people, Giff is just being welcoming and loving and being warm. And the curse is being welcoming and loving and warm. Because when they go put y'all in an Asian movie, they're going to make you the black boyfriend that they brought home to the household that ain't familiar with black people.
Starting point is 02:24:55 Right. That's the movie that you're going to be in. Yeah. And they're not making that movie. They're not. That's the thing. It's not even coming out. It's not even coming out.
Starting point is 02:25:03 Actually, that's not true. They make that movie sometimes. And it comes off the way that we think it comes off. Asians ain't making it. That movie might get made. That's what I'm saying. Like, we are wounded people, and we've been through so much, and black people have been despised people for so long
Starting point is 02:25:16 that we are so happy when people fuck with us. Oh, my God. That sometimes we, like, oh, they fuck us. This Asian person, this white person fuck with us. So then we. That we lease our experience to them. Yes. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 02:25:28 And I hate that that happens. And we abandon our own. We not only lease our experience. Like when they did integration. And now we could go eat at the white people restaurant. They feed you at the back door. walked in the front door or the black restaurant, you'll go eat food from the white man's back door
Starting point is 02:25:44 when they're spitting in shit just to say you ate from the white man restaurant. That shit is insanity. But I'm not, I don't feel the same way about the movie. And to be clear, I don't know what Kiki's role is in this movie. Executive producer That's all it's reported. For film. As y'all know, executive producer can mean everything
Starting point is 02:26:00 from you paid for it, you got it shy. Although usually produced, the producer in movies is more important than executive producer. Do y'all want to play the trailer? Is that important at all? Let's play it. I want to hear it. I think all of that stuff matters because I'm not against the movie. Okay.
Starting point is 02:26:17 I know I got some explaining to do. I got it. Let's start with the elephant in the room. Yes, I'm Asian. Yes, my family is black. And yes, I've always been hard to miss. This is Coco. Her name Cocoa.
Starting point is 02:26:33 Why her name Coco? See, I hate it. Once you enrich yourself in the opportunities here, I'm sure that you will find W has so much powerful. I mean, to hell or not to hell. All right, no, no, no. And let's be real, right? If you are, if you are, if you are the Asian girl and you are raised by black people,
Starting point is 02:26:51 wouldn't you think at that time where you like, because there's a lot of kids that are adopted, when they're 18 and 20, that's when they go looking for their people. So why wouldn't you want to get into your culture, being that you'd be surrounded about niggish shit for so long? Because the age, BCU is lit. True, but in reality. It's not your culture.
Starting point is 02:27:06 It's not your culture. It's not your culture. It's not your culture. I'm saying... This is all I know. If I was raised in a black neighborhood by black people... Like you were. For 20 years...
Starting point is 02:27:15 Yeah. Well, I'm saying to discover what you came from. That's not everybody's... When I say to you that a lot of people get adopted, sometimes they go around when they age because you're away from your parents that you can make your own decisions, right? A lot of times adoption papers,
Starting point is 02:27:30 they're still until this nigga just fuck me. Y'all, y'all can't see this, but Amani just walked into the room. He got to come here. Dressed like Michael Jacks. Just walk on set for once. Because I don't want people to think Fuck me up with this fucking hair.
Starting point is 02:27:42 Can you just step on here for one second, sir? Yo, please, yo please. That's synthetic hair too. M.J. would never. No, that's his hair. You look good, he, man. He looks like something. Oh, nice to see you.
Starting point is 02:27:55 I love you. You're talking. I'm over 16. I love you. Oh, shit. I kid. I don't even. I'm done.
Starting point is 02:28:04 I can't. Amani, you really, I like how you. You really like enjoying your 40s, Joe. Like, look. He really is. You look like you wanted to do this your whole life You know how you wanted to do this when you was at What's the name of Mike House?
Starting point is 02:28:17 Neverland Neverland You look like you had this in your closet your whole life No we all did We all did dress up We all did dress up Check my Instagram I'll post a picture
Starting point is 02:28:28 Go ahead Does anybody have any more to say on this I'm good on this movie I hate that her name is Coco also Fish Out of Water stories are a central trope In Hollywood right We love stories with somebody somewhere they're not supposed to be.
Starting point is 02:28:42 So I get that as a theme. Again, but when you do, when the fish out of water is here, I worry that the joke becomes the HBCU, that there's Asian girls in this place with these people. And we become the butt of the joke. Or we get exoticized and it becomes, look at me in this place,
Starting point is 02:28:57 but I can make it because I can dance like them or talk like them. I just don't like what it does when there's so much beauty in HBCUs. And at a moment where HBCUs are in desperate need of funding, getting underfunded and need support. I don't know if this is the story
Starting point is 02:29:08 I would want to tell about it. You could tell us. You could tell the story of Dion Sanders. I don't know if it's the story. You can tell a story of Deon Sanders being a dad to his black quarterback at Jackson State. Like there are some great feel-good HBCU stories that you could tell without having to go get the little Asian lady. Yeah, or a young drug dealer from New York. You like this Asian lady story.
Starting point is 02:29:28 You keep making faces shaking your head. I don't know the story, so I don't know if I like it or not. I'm open to going to see the movie. The premise of it. I don't know the premise. We didn't give the plot. We need you down with us, nigger. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:29:39 I'm not saying I'm against it. on forward. He went to HBCU as a nine. I mean, like he had the same. They accepted. As a non- as a non-black. You're right. I was not a part of, what was the name of your cult? See, they always go to the cult.
Starting point is 02:29:54 No, what was the name of it? HW. CU. I'm not, I'm not opposed to either one. I'm good. I won't be seen. Listen, I know it's not a topic that we normally broach up here, but I thought it was compelling and interesting, so I wanted to at least ask
Starting point is 02:30:08 you all about it. Let's stay on the topic. of licensing your likeness to people and being a fish out of water. Let's get to Adidas. Farrell put out the jellyfish sneaker a few months ago. Freddie Gibbs came up here warm in front of my face when I didn't have a peer.
Starting point is 02:30:24 I told my girl for months that I wanted some jellyfish. She still ain't going stock eggs and give me the jellyfish. So now we have in a jellyfish conversation. Months after the jellyfish came out and I still don't have it. That's unacceptable for me. However, you giving her to jellyfish. Niggins, she's getting... Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:30:39 Now, you got to slot them. You got to slot them, y'all. Nah. That's a problem. You're even. Oh, no. You're my man. You're my man, don't.
Starting point is 02:30:56 You're my man, darling. You're my man. Wow. That was. That was a good one. It's up for you for the rest of November. We could. The whole month.
Starting point is 02:31:07 I don't let go. It's the first. I don't let go. I don't let go. He got that off. And he got off that other one a couple weeks ago, paying holes daily.
Starting point is 02:31:19 What he said? Oh, the PhD band holes daily. I didn't forget about that. That's what I said, you see how you remember some shit? That's the thing is crazy. I didn't forget about that. And if niggas cashed you
Starting point is 02:31:29 a little something on the side, like don't Instagram it. That's crazy. You know, somebody did that, dude? Not to me. I'm in love. Oh. ain't that part of philanthropy
Starting point is 02:31:45 yes no no yes yeah there's some other things in this equation that we're probably not a part of philanthropy yeah
Starting point is 02:31:53 see y'all changing what words I'm looking up right now me too if I donate to your cause what's the cause ain't that philanthropy whatever the cause may be
Starting point is 02:32:03 what's the cause free to because you didn't have to niggas you did it free to sperm oh shit sperm well
Starting point is 02:32:09 yeah there you go so yo fam Anyway, Adidas and Farrell put out the jellyfish sneaker a few months ago. Limited peers were available and it went in the aftermarket for astronomical prices. Right? Not even four months later they are back with the squid sneaker, which is the jellyfish sneaker at an affordable price. Nothing wrong with you doing that. I think this is what Kanye was talking about
Starting point is 02:32:43 when everybody was calling that. Exactly what he was. You're taking all of my designs. You're taking my sauce and my swag. You're repurposing it and reducing the price. You're fucking me up out of here. And you own it so you get to do what you want. Put Kanye to the side for a second.
Starting point is 02:32:59 Tell me how this benefit... Well, no, actually, I know how it benefits Adidas. What do you mean? Yeah. Is this a case of Adidas stepping on their own dope? Yes. Or would you guys have done the exact... same thing with the exact same timetable.
Starting point is 02:33:14 I think Adida did two things, and this goes back to... And this squid sneaker looks like the poor version of the jellyfish. Look, this is similar to the argument you are having, where the people behind the scenes are dropping the ball because they're not relatable and they're not related to the culture. When those conures were dropping, those shits were spreading like wildfire. That's a fact. They dumb down those conyers and made them at a better price point, thinking that it was going to do something.
Starting point is 02:33:43 We haven't heard about Adidas since fucking Kanye left. Nobody's out here wearing Adidas. A6 then took over and new balance is going crazy. Sokinis are going crazy. Motherfuckers threw them yeasies in the closet and never wore them shits again. That's why I don't understand the move because of what you're saying.
Starting point is 02:33:58 But I think that the numbers might represent something else. Who's tied to Lewis Vitton, he comes up with an amazing sneaker and you don't even give yourself six, seven, eight, nine months of this. you come right back three months later and put out the same sneaker for cheap. But what might have happened?
Starting point is 02:34:17 How does it behoove you? I'm about to tell you what might have happened because we don't know Adidas numbers. It's greed and short-term, short-term success. But in the long run... Joe, hold on. Let me finish. Go ahead. Go ahead. So let's just say the Kanye's were $300, right?
Starting point is 02:34:35 But now we put out these Foniers and we're selling them for 100, but we're doing crazy volume. I made my money. Yeah, so from a number standpoint, and you're only looking at analytics, it was profitable. So now when Farrell comes and puts out the jellyfishes, we're going to put the squids out or the octopus or whatever of a shit at $80. And if we sell a zillion of them at $80, then it still worked for them from an analytical standpoint. They just not popping in culture.
Starting point is 02:35:01 Let me play Bima just because I love Bima. Jellyfish, you five, P. Adidas just cock block for Rale's jellyfish. You finally made the first skateboard piece sneaker that. actually matter since it's NMDs. And then what you do? You make damn near an identical duplicate called the Adi Star XL BBL or whatever for half the price. It's like watching your collab getting bootlegged by your own kinfo. I don't know who's more misguided. This strategy or that Nike complex sneaker of the year list. Look, every product has a life cycle. You got height,
Starting point is 02:35:34 growth, maturity, decline. Smart brands stretch it. Adidas is collapsing it. Between 2016 and 2018, they released like 160 colorways of the NMD. And yes, revenue spiked and then it went straight to the outlets. Translation, they milked it to death. This is a discipline issue. You're chasing short-term revenue at the expense of long-term heat. And so it's like we're witnessing a case study in poor product pacing. You're training the customer to wait for the discount instead of buying into the dream.
Starting point is 02:36:05 There's a better way. Like maybe design some distance so that the general release doesn't look like the collab and then wait nine to 12 months before you do a takedown. That's how you scale without self-sabotage. Now Cousis, is Adidas actually building equity or are they burning it for quarterly gains? That is Beema Williams on Instagram, B-I-M-M-A. He is amazing. He's absolutely amazing. He knows what he's saying. He's great at his following if you love this type of shit. He's absolutely right. He may be. The only thing I would have to imagine they have some more details on analytics than we do.
Starting point is 02:36:41 Exactly. More people are buying. He's saying, you're projected. I'm sorry. I'm saying if I'm looking at this like, all right, cool, we put these out. We got everybody going crazy.
Starting point is 02:36:50 Now we're going to flood them, come back with a cheaper version, and people are going to buy them by their projections. Why wouldn't you do that? He's saying, yo, you're giving you, you are taking short term gains over long-term heat. A lot of these motherfuckers don't care about heat or cultural relevance or any of that other shit.
Starting point is 02:37:09 They are caring about profits. That's why it's important what you're saying because that's the same conversation that we have in music. Yeah. Yeah. But in shoes, I guess. It's the same conversation.
Starting point is 02:37:22 The same exact conversation. The people in the backboard rooms don't give a fuck about what y'all talking about. They care about your classic. Sir is going to take three to five years to put out his quality music. And Isish's AI Sleeper is going to model sir and put out the fast food version.
Starting point is 02:37:39 of that every three months for the people that maybe can't wait or can't afford that because it's art at a premium. But art should be at a premium. I think art gets tricky when you're talking about I guess you can make the same argument for music to some degree a very hard line product. Bro.
Starting point is 02:37:59 There's a... Adida gave out. There's a value in exclusivity. What is the point of... I'm sorry. Like, who is that? Ferrari don't... You're not going to see the Ferrari commercial. on TV. This is Farrell, who just had the clips
Starting point is 02:38:13 at the Vatican, is changing the way Louis fucking does things, especially for black people, how it's represented. You cannot cheapen what he is and what he means to culture by taking his design and selling it for crackhead prices.
Starting point is 02:38:30 Yes, you may make more money. But long term, is it wise, especially for a brand that's so tied to culture, for a brand that got their They're pop from Run DMC for a brand that every 10 years you come right back to us
Starting point is 02:38:44 to rely on us to get you lit. I think it's a horrible idea. That's all. I'm shocked they did it. I only brought this up because I'm super shocked at this. I'm shocked. What is the point of doing a deal with somebody?
Starting point is 02:38:56 Like for real, everything's saying about for real. What is the point of doing something like that with him just to do that? Yeah, what's the point? Is that the whole point to create this clamor and create this thing where, you know, it's this thing that you can't afford and we're going to do the cheap version
Starting point is 02:39:09 and make this rush of money? Yes. I don't know. That's stupid to me. I guess money-wise is great, but it's just stupid. If the goal is dollars and cents, and I created a demand
Starting point is 02:39:18 by working with Farrell while he's fish grease hot, and we got a sneaker that's fish grease hot. And now I know I can cut the price on that and flood the block with it. No. And make my money. Yeah, but you're absolutely right in what you're saying. But what you just said was the goal is dollars and cents.
Starting point is 02:39:34 Yeah. I am saying fundamentally, I think it's a mistake. if it's only dollars and cents. You need to have more people in the C-sweet. You need to have more people in the room. Fuck the people that's just going to say, if we do X, Y, and Z, we will make more
Starting point is 02:39:50 over the next two years. We just spoke about how fucked up these companies are we reading about layoffs every day. Like, yo, it is dollars and six right now. That's it. Y'all niggas are too optimistic. It's fucked up out there. Y'all's companies out here laying niggas off
Starting point is 02:40:03 that's not even doing bad. Like layoffs is the thing that you do. Amazon laid niggas off. 48,000. I didn't want to say them. UPS was 48,000. I'm sorry. But I didn't want to say them,
Starting point is 02:40:14 but it's companies out here that are profitable, that are doing well, and they still layin'niggas off because it can mean even more money. So you're looking at this, Adida shit, like, yo, y'all are a fucking up in culture. Nigga, they dividend was two euros.
Starting point is 02:40:31 Like, so if I got a million shit, I don't give a fuck what you talk. And what they do on purpose is we're going to make this dope-ass sneaker exclusive. We only put out 10,000 of them. Great demand. But now we're going to give y'all the B version that's just overpopulated in the store.
Starting point is 02:40:46 So if you can't get the A version, you're going to get the B version. I'm curious. You have lost the office and signed felt at the expense of they came from outer space. I don't know what that means. I'm talking TV metaphors right now. I just don't. I don't know how to make that make sense. But I understand what you're saying
Starting point is 02:41:10 I totally get it I just don't know how to make sense of that In my head go ahead more If Ferrell would have said look Listen hey we're doing this deal And just in case you niggas on some bullshit Y'all can't make no sneak that look like the one I just made And I need that to be a part of the deal
Starting point is 02:41:24 So what you're saying they would have been refusing Because that was always the long Possibly we don't know Kanye got so mad at them niggas He told them niggas I want my own building Where none of your people are Because they jacking my shit I want my own building over here
Starting point is 02:41:38 because y'all are taking my ideas dumbing down my shit and I'm not getting no money from that. Right. I've been stalking, I've been stalking this house on Zillow for the last two years. It's a rendering. It was just pictures. Is this shit Corey called me about? I don't know what Corey called you about. All right, go ahead.
Starting point is 02:41:54 You think I talked to Corey? But I've been stalking this house on Instagram. The other day, I go to see the house. Oh, you did go? Okay. The land. No, he got sticks up. He got half of the outside up, and it's just,
Starting point is 02:42:09 just sticks. It's just wood. But I walked through it. And he had pictures for every room so you could see what was coming. You can see what was going on. He said this house will be done by April. But this guy who he was awesome. I wouldn't shout him out now, but he was absolutely awesome. His family has been developing in the greater parts of New Jersey for 30 to 40 years. He's the son now. Parents got older. He's taking over the business. He's making his name from doing really, really, modern quality homes in places where all of the old money exists
Starting point is 02:42:45 right so I'm talking to him that's far and he's telling me about all this amazing shit he got everything he needed to build this house came in already I got my marble from over here he's showing me the pictures all these people
Starting point is 02:43:01 I'm dealing with are crim della cream best of the best he's I fuck with how he was talking so I start asking him about all just some of the houses I've seen, right? And it was this $16 million house in Englewood that they eventually sold for $10 million that was all over TikTok. It was all glass. It was beautiful. And everybody that had a dime was going to see this house. And I say, yeah, did you go see such and such house? Because I went to see that house. And before I could finish the sentence, he said, it's disgusting.
Starting point is 02:43:30 Trash. It's horrible. You get these companies coming in that they're just going to slap up some walls they're going to take a short on everything in there so the finishes are dusty it's all garbage it's like an influencer it's like an influencer garbage that you're paying and he's like if you're paying 10 million you're paying 12 million 18 million for a fucking house you're not trying to walk in something where the finishes is done over here you can't even buy a lot if you buy a lot then they assume that they're not selling a lot without selling the house that's not built yet He was talking that shit And I was like
Starting point is 02:44:05 Exactly Because in that house Everything was garbage But if you don't know that it's garbage If they're able to just put The bullshit sink And the bullshit this And the bullshit that
Starting point is 02:44:18 Then there'll always be a market for it That shouldn't impede With the people that enjoy quality Yes Well the people that enjoy quality That shouldn't impede with the people Who have an eye And an ear
Starting point is 02:44:30 And a hand For quality shit So what I'm saying is You're losing your Ferrari Audience because you want to put out The fucking I can't say here because that's lit No you're not though
Starting point is 02:44:43 You're not Hold on hold on Yes you are You are You are losing them And it's gonna build a house Over there Tell me
Starting point is 02:44:50 Take it back to the Adita shit The person that wanted to spend the money Got that that sneaker The original jellyfish The one who could afford it That didn't blink at that price The one who went on stock axe who didn't care about that price got it
Starting point is 02:45:04 now the other person who want to look like I got it but I couldn't afford it they're going to get the B-Line same thing with this company here you're sacrificing this Seinfeld in the office for perfect strangers ice they put now 90 different not 90 but let's say
Starting point is 02:45:21 eight different color ways of the real deal so yes homeboy went out and got the orange ones that Freddy Giswold up here we got eight other colorways of premium exclusive shit that you will never be able to sell because the niggas that want to buy that don't want to walk outside
Starting point is 02:45:38 and see 800 cheap colorways of the shit they just paid for. You are wrong. So they're going to go get them. You don't want to go get them. We can't prove it. No, I'm talking to court. Yo, so this is the point.
Starting point is 02:45:50 There's an audience of people that Ferrari appeals to. And then there's a wide audience of people that Honda appeal to. They are not the same audience. So I don't have to reach the Ferrari audience if I want to sell Hondas and vice versa. I don't have to reach the Honda audience
Starting point is 02:46:06 if I'm selling Ferraris. That's why we don't see Ferrari commercials. Let me finish, Joe. I encourage you. So when it comes to the house analogy, you are looking at the house from the perspective of a homeowner. The other people are looking at the house
Starting point is 02:46:18 from a perspective of an investor than a developer. So the developer's bottom line is profit. You looking at it because I'm moving in this house so I want the best finishes that money can buy. These niggas say I want the best finishes. That's looking finishes that money can buy because my profit is my overall objective.
Starting point is 02:46:37 And a lot of times when these niggas buy these high-end houses, they get in here and they change shit anyway. They got enough money to change the marble anyway. This is the stock marble that we picked. They're going to get in here and change the shit anyway because they got enough bread. So if I could turn a $3 million, $4 million, $5 million profit, I'm not going to make my profit $3.5 million to go get the marble from fucking flown in from Croatia. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 02:46:59 So you're talking about it from two totally different perspectives? You're talking about the Honda Accord owner and the Ferrari owner. What's the jellyfishes are the Ferrari owners, and they're going to pay whatever they got to pay for that shit. If every word you said was true, then I agree with you. I only disagree because if Toyota, actually it's true. Toyota right now, I saw it yesterday, is putting out a car that they feel like will rival the Bentley and the Ray. Do you see that? I show a car.
Starting point is 02:47:32 Keep going. What I'm saying is, if that car comes out, it will affect how, let's call it, race drivers feel about purchasing raves. I'm coming. Yo, exclusive. We got to bring back the value exclusivity, y'all. I agree with you in most part. If I have a raf and I come outside and it's 30 of you niggas in the Toyota rave,
Starting point is 02:47:57 then you're going to get a different goal. You don't have a rave. That's the fucking that. Yeah, I don't understand what the. I don't get where the argument is either. You know what the niggas gonna say? It ain't this. When you bought your Ferrari,
Starting point is 02:48:06 guess what you came in here in dissed? And dist? You diss Lamborghinis. When you bought your Ferrari, you came in here and diss Lamborghinis because the niggas that know, no. Well, I was probably dissing in Lamborghini before then, but I remember what you're saying.
Starting point is 02:48:20 The niggas that know, no. So the nigger that got a rafist, like when they said the Christ with 300 looked like the Bentley or, no it fucking don't. And the niggas that had a Bentley laughed at that stupid-ass statement because it didn't look like no Bentley and you wasn't going even remotely pull up to this
Starting point is 02:48:35 and say, yo, we're here. Hey, hold up, hold up. I like that example. Nigel, my defrauster clears the window like this. They also stopped making that car shortly after. But they sold a shit. They also stopped making that car shortly after. That's fine.
Starting point is 02:48:49 Look how many they sold. Which one? No, the $300. The $300. The expensive Chrysler. The 300 C. The 300. The big, big, big, big, big,
Starting point is 02:48:59 the big, big, big, uh, rolls worth that they don't make no more. I don't really under... I'm trying to get what you're saying. I just don't think it's true. I just think you're talking about two totally... Yeah, you're just talking about two totally different targets. Two different companies. Two totally different markets
Starting point is 02:49:14 of people that we're shooting at. You understand what I'm saying? Again, Ferrari might make... Adidas St. Ferrari. 2,000 cars a year. Adidas St. Ferrari. I'm not saying the Yard. But that particular Adida, that's high priced... Sure. Is in this analogy,
Starting point is 02:49:30 representative of Ferrari. But Adidas St. Ferrari. Nike ain't Ferrari neither, but them Travis Scott's cost $2,000 and everybody don't have them. But they don't cost $2,000. That's the aftermarket. You got to buy him. You'll spend $2,000. Wait, wait. Wait, wait. No, no, no. That exclusivity and them putting out
Starting point is 02:49:46 a limited amount of Travis Scott is what made them go to $2,000. And it's, okay, I received what you're saying. My response to that is a smart company, any company that has boots on the ground. Whoa, got my boots on the ground.
Starting point is 02:50:04 Sorry. Sorry. Go ahead. With them fan that, with them fan that let your body move. Hey, yo, if you had a fat ass, you might be a problem out there. Now, I'm ready. They're ready to take them on or down. Please.
Starting point is 02:50:19 They're ready to take O yellow round back. Oh, yellow. Oh, yellow. That's how you're going to kill me. Oh, yellow. Hey, you kill that food for shit. Listen, damn it.
Starting point is 02:50:31 Damn it. Travis Scott. He's crazy. And I think Nike is in tune with culture. I think that everybody that's what I'm saying. I'm sorry. What I'm saying is when I bought my Mayback during the pandemic from the aftermarket with the aftermarket price.
Starting point is 02:50:51 Mercedes didn't see that and up the line on Maybacks they would put out. Gotcha. they saw that and modeled their business after the demand they were seeing from what was happening in the aftermarket. I'm saying what Adidas is doing is the opposite of that. They're seeing the demand for something, seeing the aftermarket price shoot up like the jellyfishes were, however many thousands of dollars, and they're eliminating it. I'm saying a smart company would see it and work in conjunction with what the market is telling you about your product. That's what I'm saying in closing. they didn't eliminate the jellyfish right
Starting point is 02:51:31 they still have it I feel like you're eliminating the jellyfish by making a fake jellyfish I don't wonder where jellyfish is if we're standing next to each other and you got to squint to see which one is the jellyfish I don't want to wear it I don't want to wear what she got on that's why I buy shit like that
Starting point is 02:51:46 to me there's nothing way to refute that I don't get it I get the money part and all that but it's almost like you're saying fuck one thing for another at the end of the day every money of his sneaks can be affordable you can do that you can have an affordable sneaker We're talking about Adidas. They've been around forever.
Starting point is 02:52:00 And they've been like a big part of like American culture forever. So I don't know. I think that it has to be, I think that there's no way that if I go through all this shit to get a pair of sneakers and y'all making something that close to it, just like when they did it with the Yeezy, it just takes the fun out of. You don't want to do it again. So now we're taking the L of never being able to do the jellyfish thing again, no matter because we know what you already do anyway.
Starting point is 02:52:21 You're going to just put out a replica. All right, we'll close it up. But real quick, I just want to say real fast, to the person that, like you said, that got the jellyfish standing next to the person that got the fake jellyfish. Guess what? Adita sold them both. Right.
Starting point is 02:52:32 They don't give a fuck. You're all missing it. For you to keep saying that to what we're saying tells me that you're talking past each other. You might be missing it. It's okay. You're looking at the culture. It's okay.
Starting point is 02:52:41 Can I ask the question? Sure. Why Sidney's Sweeney on the board? Who's going to reveal their horny? With a fan that. I don't know what this means. I'm getting nervous. Huh?
Starting point is 02:52:55 You could say. Could I think? Yeah. You know, he started off as R&B singer. I sung before I rapped. I don't know if I could do since that. I definitely sung before. He performed Apollo Allah.
Starting point is 02:53:05 He's a major. I'm not being funny. Seriously. Normally I am, but I'm not. Okay. I used to be able to sing. When I got shipped away to my board in school, I learned violence, drugs, regrets, be in ease and shame.
Starting point is 02:53:21 Singing hit the back burner. I started robbing people in houses. And rapping and fucking rap. Well, that's when I went away to, rehab. But yeah, I was smoking blunts and then that led to dust and the dust led to the robberies.
Starting point is 02:53:36 There was no time to sing so I was rapping. You still go hold it to me. So I was right. Witham fan. I noticed that about your voice even the way you do an ad, like the way you throw your voice.
Starting point is 02:53:46 You're good at that. Amani calls me Anthony Scramleton. She's a sad of a joke. Yeah. That's my man. Let me get back to my list. Sidney Sweeney. right.
Starting point is 02:54:00 What's a new day, man. She appeared for, she out of variety for varieties, power of women of Los Angeles. Okay. It's a ceremony at the help to celebrate powerful women in L.A. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 02:54:17 And Sidney Sweeney showed up in a gray number that took the world by storm. It was, it was America's appreciation for white tities. Sure. She wore see-through dress. It was the new J-Lo dress.
Starting point is 02:54:32 And I'm not, it was see-through, but it was just form-fitting. It was titty's out. Oh, Tis are out. Yeah, okay. It was nipples more than tities. Nah, if the whole shape of the titty is out. No, that's titty. That's titty and nipple.
Starting point is 02:54:45 That shit was poked out. Yeah. She looked good. Did y'all like it? Yes. I'm liking it right now. I'll tell you double-tape. Yes.
Starting point is 02:54:51 Well, let's stay on who liked it first. Okay. Me. Me. Which is interesting, right? Because these little, these little white. girls that shaped like white teenage boys if they were the right shit like because other pictures of sidney i didn't feel like that this night her body it looked good in the dress it did i got to
Starting point is 02:55:13 get props we're proxed for context this the girl we debated about before with the good jeans air from american eagle yada yada so now you're saying the she took that she took that stop took it through the moon the rage bating work black people were mad but our response to this tells me I mean, maybe we jumped the gun. The bitch maybe got good genes. I mean, listen, listen, man. Now, we can continue to talk about Sidney's Sweetie's Titties. And I want to leave an ISO for Ish who has an affinity for white tities different than the rest of us.
Starting point is 02:55:46 I don't, though. You fuck with white tities. I don't do that. And I do, too, if they're right titty. I'm not a titty guy. White little perky tities you like them. I'm not a titty guy, Joe. Did you see the pictures?
Starting point is 02:55:56 I did. Did you like it? It was nice. Because you ain't even really got to be a titty guy to appreciate it. You're a titty guy. I'm not too. She's been naked in TV shows and movies before, guys.
Starting point is 02:56:09 What? You look. Okay. Flabbergasted. Stop. Because I don't like when he does this and I don't like when I employ him and he does this. This is what I'm saying. I'm posing a lot because you pay me?
Starting point is 02:56:20 Yes. Hold it down. I think, and I've said this before, the right set of tities. attracts men that aren't titty men. That's true. That is a fact. I think that if you're just a man
Starting point is 02:56:36 and you see the right set of tities, you appreciate the tities. A thousand, 100% facts. So I think that's what you're saying about me. I'm not necessarily a titty man, but I appreciate a nice set of titty. He's saying that you are a titty man and you lying.
Starting point is 02:56:50 Then I don't know where he gets that from. I've been an ass man my whole life. You're a voluptuous man. I like curves. You like all of this shit. It's not been. one or the other. You with all those curves
Starting point is 02:57:01 and me without no bricks. Ooh. Anyway, I can appreciate Sidney's titty. I think she looked great. Indeed. She did. My Sydney Sweeney take is not about Sidney's Sweeney. It's about the advertising
Starting point is 02:57:17 I'm all ears. Company? Well, they were honoring Sidney's Sweeney and Jamie Lee Curtis. And Jamie Lee Curtis went viral recently for her ad for whatever movie that she was putting out where her cleavage was showing. Do you all remember that? Oh yeah. Yeah. So it was a moment having Sidney
Starting point is 02:57:41 who had the biggest viral movement and changed the stock of that gene company and Jamie Lee Curtis at the same time. Wasn't it the cap? I did go Google if Jamie Lee Curtis was married to a man and she is. Yeah. She also has children. So let's say that. And I just said that I'm not with pulling people out of closets because I'm not. This dude is crazy. I had to look them up. I wasn't.
Starting point is 02:58:11 For tities? No, the ad. I didn't, I wasn't familiar. How do I? Watch this. What I'm saying to you is I saw Jamie Lee Curtis when she greeted Sidney
Starting point is 02:58:25 on the carpet. And I saw the grab. As a man, I always watch him. the hand during the picture and the cuff and the tightness and Jamie Lee Curtis had it down to a science. She might have did it before. And then when Sidney Sweetie was
Starting point is 02:58:42 trying to go, Jamie Lee Curtis was... She did the linger. So, she looked back like, text me, girl. So I was like, I think Jamie Lee Curtis want to eat Sydney Sweet. That's fucked up to say.
Starting point is 02:58:59 I mean, is it? But I mean, shit. Sometimes when you feel in a certain way as a dude You can spot the girl that feel the same way you feel Yeah Also while I can appreciate a good set of White Titties and Nipples Rack
Starting point is 02:59:17 I am a chocolate milk guy So Tiana happened to also be dressed For the time 100 people Some shit that she was being celebrated for Okay And she had on a blazer Not no see-through shit It was taped to yada, yada, yada.
Starting point is 02:59:35 I was like, God damn, Tiana looks amazing. Her body is her body. You already know. You already know, Tiana, a friend to show. I'm not looking at it like that, but Tiana is that for me. So to get this, like, dose of Tiana and Sidney Sween, it's got to feel like when Oreo double stuff put out the fucking, put out the chocolate and the white cream. You say it's a good week for Tis.
Starting point is 02:59:58 This is a great week for Titties. Why am I the only one talking about this? Make some noise. Make some noise. You know, applaud for titties, man. Well, there were some people booing those tities. Who's tithes? No one should ever booed tithy.
Starting point is 03:00:15 They weren't booing the tities per se. Stop it. They were booing that we could see the tics. I'll take, Megan Kelly. Sit down. Sit down. Sit down. It's important.
Starting point is 03:00:25 No. I'll tell you why. Meg Kelly didn't booed the tities. She didn't booed the tities. She didn't booed the titty. She booed the showing of the tis. What she said is, she said, she said, She said, Sidney was on the red carpet on Wednesday, and she decided to show off her number one asset, which, contrary to the American Eagle jeans ad, is not really her jeans. It's her enormous breasts.
Starting point is 03:00:41 That is it? I mean, that's true. She said, now, she did say the breasts were spectacular. Which are not really enormous either. No, they're just nice. Because this would be looked at differently if they were enormous. Right, that's true. She said, and she said they were spectacular, but she also said, I object to this. I disapprove of the dress because it's completely see-through. You can see her entire nipples. She reminded me. of Kim Kardashian. And then finally she said that she draws the line at the ariola being visible.
Starting point is 03:01:09 So I'm reasoning it's not so much because of what Megan said, but to ask, are there titty display rules? Well, there are. And did she crossed the line. To me, no. No. No, society she did. That was artsy titties.
Starting point is 03:01:20 Old, yeah, no. That's artsy tities. Just because they're big doesn't mean that the same. And they're not big. And they're not very. Even if they were small, back in the day,
Starting point is 03:01:28 you don't show the areola. They put that thing on it. Is the ariola the rule still? No. I've always been against women having to cover the nipples. I think it's stupid personally. I mean, y'all show your nipples. What's the big deal?
Starting point is 03:01:41 I feel like you're right. If you want to show them, you show them. As far as when you talk about red carpet events, it's like, to be honest, a part of your brand, your whole team works what you're going to wear on the carpet. You're supposed to break the internet. So if I'm doing that with a little titty, unless it's not allowed to the point somebody's going to come and say,
Starting point is 03:01:56 hey, you need to cover that up or leave, it's a go. I agree, ammonia. Yeah. If you have red carpet tities and you decide to showcase them in that way, it's worked every time. It's worked when Lil Kim did it. It's worked when Jaylor did it.
Starting point is 03:02:09 It's worked when Maryland and Road. There's too many women that have done it in a tasteful, classy way. And I think a large part of that depends on where you're going. For these types of ceremonies, yes, do it. If you go into Stafford.
Starting point is 03:02:22 No, if you go on to the corporate Christmas party. If you go to Harvard. Now, if I go see through, they might walk me out. I thought you're going to say, We're the nipples point, but... You know? Nah, you gotta go with the see-through fupa.
Starting point is 03:02:34 Nah, that's what I'm saying. If I go see-through fupa long titty, they're going to actually leave. No, the ready-nigger's gone. Imagine it's going to be a group of niggas that's like, I love natural mother-Africa tities. But for the most part, they're going to say go. Those cities look good. They're nice to cleaned up. And she is Sidney-Sweeney.
Starting point is 03:02:47 Because of that big thing with American Eagle, motherfuckers is waiting for her to be like, what's she going to do on the carpet? You know? Women know when they got tities that could go in that outfit and when they don't. And they should be allowed to fucking police themselves. Like, do what you want. If you think your titty's gonna look good in that dress, then by all means, please, have it.
Starting point is 03:03:05 Any time I've ever wanted to go see through, I did it because I wanted to. Like, it didn't really matter what the event was. Also, again, both Jamie Lee Curtis and Sidney have done a lot of nude scenes. So this isn't like the most... Oh, that's a good point, too. This is regular.
Starting point is 03:03:20 Yeah. And they're just tities, first. Titties is dope, y'all. Titties is dope. Titties is dope. He about to tell him himself that he had a titty man, for real. I'm not a titty man.
Starting point is 03:03:31 I'm a man. You took it. Who can appreciate great tits? When Kanye wife was running around, that's his wife. So with, or was his wife, so with respect. And after I said all of my horrible shit about him and how they looked running around, I did get to, she got a nice set of titty. She did.
Starting point is 03:03:51 She did. I think when you see a nice set of tities, there's nothing. If you appreciate that, there's nothing that you can say besides. Nice titty. Those are a nice. Those are nice. You did that. Those are nice.
Starting point is 03:04:03 Those are nice. So she turned that shit upside down. I don't save way too many Sidney'sweeney pictures in my phone. I didn't like too many shit. I don't found her on Instagram. Then she went to the Dodgers game,
Starting point is 03:04:16 put the glizzy to her mouth. Oh, Joe. Then she went to the Dodgers game. Put the glit. My type of white bitch right there. What the fuck are y'all talking about? But the double glizzy with an old girl or some white bitch.
Starting point is 03:04:29 You know white bitches get freaky on the nighttime at the Dodge game. It's about some of my stuff. Yeah, nigga. I ain't going to allow nobody to talk that shit about Sidney's. Let me pull up this fucking Dodger picture. So y'all I'm pissed for Sydney, Sweden. Your nigga is hate. I'm not hating on her tinnies or her.
Starting point is 03:04:45 At all. What are the best young actresses? Look, look, look. She's totally like, look. Look. Yes. Messy white head. She's a fucking free.
Starting point is 03:04:56 She's a freak. What are y'all talking about with the glizzy right there? She's looking at the top of it. She knows what the fuck she's doing. Shout to Sidney Swift. I could tell when the white girl's my type of white girl. I don't care what y'all talking about. I ought to bid it enough spaces.
Starting point is 03:05:10 I'm about to shout them out, but I'm involved. I can tell the white girls I want to party with. When I get the ox, I go right to it. It's a party. It's a party. It's a party. It's a party. It's a party.
Starting point is 03:05:25 White girl weighs down. I got my white girl playlist. Mad Miley. Oh, you crazy? Yes. Yes, and Mali. Miley and Miley. Miley and fucking Miley.
Starting point is 03:05:36 You got a nice set of little perky white titty. And I got money. What the fuck is you talking about? Nigger, yes, we're going to the after variety party. Are you wearing that? I might wear my see-through shit. That's how we feeling. I might give him my lace.
Starting point is 03:05:53 She's the fuck as you talk about. She got some other shit for that after party. Naga. Thanks. Ice. It's a party, it's a party, it's a party, yeah. I might play little John, nigga. You know the freaky white bitch is like all that you.
Starting point is 03:06:03 You don't know they like it. They like that shit. It's like, get crunk in this motherfucker. Hey, you know, mama, let me whisper in your ear. Say you a little something like that. I like the gay. And da-da-da-da-dha-ha-ha-ha-da-da-da-da-da-n-n-n-ha. When you see my dick.
Starting point is 03:06:20 What? That song is made for Siddy, sweetie, little white tinnies. Nigger, where you see this black dick. What the fuck are y'all talking about it? Everybody in here know when they catch the vibe with the little fly white freaky joy. Give it to me, babe. Rick James. Huh?
Starting point is 03:06:41 On Halloween, that's what we pop these white bitches. It's, y'all. Why are you what you in? You can't sign me. Halloween night. Y'all know that's when we pop these types of bitches. That's a good night for white people. I'm lying.
Starting point is 03:06:53 It's a good night for white people. I'm lying. Halloween in New Year. Y'allon. Yeah. New Year's Eve. That's a good night for white girls. Yes it is.
Starting point is 03:07:02 We bar hopping on, look over there well unsuspecting. She don't even know. Yeah, we know. Hey, yo, and the niggas that do this. Are you crazy? Oh, man. What are you think white girl wasted came from? Oh, we're in the corner with a perky tini by herself.
Starting point is 03:07:19 Her ride left left, she's telling strangers. Oh my God. Oh my God. My ride left. I am stranded. That's where I-e-com. That's what I'm going to pull a van out. You pull a van up on these.
Starting point is 03:07:32 Pull-a-a-a-a-a-down. I got this cribbed. I'm trying to refurbish. Bitch. You can stay over there for the back. All I want to do is see them little perky white tetties. I ain't going to do that to you.
Starting point is 03:07:44 That sound crazy. That sounds nuts, man. That's a little bit. My bad. Perky white titty. You're crazy. This nigga is insane. Hello.
Starting point is 03:07:51 He's really got you turned up. He crazy. Hello. White titty. There's some. He did some. Hello. And they wear them shirts
Starting point is 03:07:58 The bitches I'm talking about They look at their city Swedish shirt like another Wednesday Bidges I'm talking about Where that shit, nigga, they go in the right To urban outfitters Where the shit, they go to skims These bitches are going outside
Starting point is 03:08:14 And lingerie with pants with jeans, nigga What are you talking about? They don't make shirts these bitches wearing No, yeah All right You know, I roll Get this nigga He all worked up.
Starting point is 03:08:26 Give up paper towel, juice. God damn. Maybe I'm a Titty guy. Yeah, baby. Baby, Joey, baby. Look what Titties can do for the world. Titties can solve all the world's problems. Tiddy's got him turked up. This guy's nuts.
Starting point is 03:08:40 You guys, see me during fucking sex. I close my eyes just to keep opening them and see him tics. Naga, I'd be like this on the bottom. Oh, shit. What? I'm fucking making shit. The new Eschisketz, nigga. Are you fucking crazy, nigga?
Starting point is 03:08:58 Will you close your eyes? And you fucking open up again? Big-ass-haired fucking eggs. Like a fucking child, nigga. I'm a kid with some shit. The fuck are you talking about? What's the wrong with you, sir? What's happening?
Starting point is 03:09:14 Wait till the educated community gets over. It's over for me. They got Mark up there talking about tities. White tities at that. Right. But after like, why do you think I'm a titty man?
Starting point is 03:09:28 Right. Why would I be? Right. Why would I be? Why about this? All the niggas that bought Kanye first shit and turned the drunken, hot white girls know what I'm saying. That's the third album. Oh, stay still.
Starting point is 03:09:40 Still, still a pie. Well, the first album was that workout shit. Yeah. That work out. Who do you think that was more? Big Titty white girl. Well, she said it in the song. I'm from Mobile, Alabama.
Starting point is 03:09:51 Exactly. Exactly. All right. Take it away. I'm done. I bought a double-wild. We got a show. We might have did it.
Starting point is 03:09:58 Yeah, I think he did it. There's no top of that. Yeah. That was great. Yeah, well, how can we go behind that? Go out of the high note. Fuck. That was a good one, nigga.
Starting point is 03:10:07 Sidney Swinney. Her tities. I did not see that coming. Not at all. I didn't, I just asked my Sidney was on the board. God damn it. Got a classic. He showed you.
Starting point is 03:10:15 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen. Shit's like that. Yeah. No, it's some good titt. Yeah. Some good titt.
Starting point is 03:10:21 You gotta go see you. He's going to go see Euphoria now. She was in it? Yeah. Yo, and I fix a business combo. You said you wanted to move it to an artist? I'm out of breath. Don't you just.
Starting point is 03:10:37 All right. I'll come up for me. Yeah, you should be. Titty's got you done. And I fixed a business combo, Joe was talking about moving it to an artist. Todd Dallisand's first week numbers came out, and they were really, really, really, really. really low.
Starting point is 03:10:53 Okay. For him. How low? How low we're talking? $7.9,000? 8,000, right? Yeah, $8,000. Call it $8,000.
Starting point is 03:11:02 Yeah, $8,000 in first week. And we're trying to find out what's, like, what's the problem? Marketing. I had no idea that album came out until a week later. That's the thing I keep running into with these artists that have low weeks. Like when Tyler came out, other people,
Starting point is 03:11:16 it's like, oh, wait, there was an album? Oh, wait, there's just no marketing for some of these acts. And I think they're riding on their name and thinking that people are just going to do it. Rely too much on Instagram. And Instagram, if you look at most people's analytics that I've talked to at least,
Starting point is 03:11:28 is very fucking low, let alone click-through rate on the people that actually see your shit. Like, you can't just post something on Instagram and people are going to go out and buy the album. You know what I think it is, too? A lot of them are used to the label doing more. That's true, too. Like now with the labels being in disarray,
Starting point is 03:11:44 all the shit that's going on, the artist is thinking, you know, I do my usual one too. I post here, I do whatever, whatever. Yeah. And y'all take care. of the rest. The world knows my albums come. I damn near thought Todd Dollar Sign dropped as an independent. I had
Starting point is 03:11:57 the check to make sure this was still Atlantic. Oh, it was? Yes. Oh, wow. There's been no single. Well, no, there was a single. I'm sorry. But there's been, you haven't even seen him. Right. Like, when your album is coming out, you got to get outside and do something. Yeah, you got to go sit down with some pods, tell some stories,
Starting point is 03:12:15 do something, anything, literally anything. I mean, not just to take it off him, you got to actually work. Yeah. I don't hear y'all fixing them, though. So the fix, I always said Tidal-A-San was known more for his features than his albums anyway. I caught hell up here for that. That first album was a classic damn near to me, though.
Starting point is 03:12:39 Still. Free T.C. Is that what it was? Yeah, free T-C was. Still, I just have him more as a feature artist. As far as fixing him, I think standing next to Kanye like that hurt. Probably. So in terms of the fix, you got to walk back some shit, bro.
Starting point is 03:12:57 Oh, he's publicly said that he didn't fuck with condoms and saying certain shit. No, he said I don't fuck with hate speech. Fixed tie dollar sign. One writers is a reason why we enjoy him on these features more than we enjoy him on his own songs. Those songs have writers. He getting in the studio, probably just writing his own shit. Going off his own vibe. You don't think he wrote his hopes?
Starting point is 03:13:23 No A&R. What he featured? I think I can, I think it sounds like there's no A&R on his project. It sounds like there's no nothing on his project. It sounds like these are leftover joints from him and Kanye. And I'm a fucking Todd Dollar fan. So it did that, then it deserved to do that, right? I know, but we want to fix him because we know he's talented.
Starting point is 03:13:43 We know his brand is there. We know people like him. He has the appeal. But when it comes to his solo music, it's just not hidden like his features. writers number one for me number two he's an EDM act for the rest of his career I'm taking him away from you niggas
Starting point is 03:13:57 that's where the money is I'm putting him with Calvin Harris I'm putting him with some of the big techno DJs that can repurpose his old joints I just heard a new edium version of Rihanna Kiss It Better Rihanna who ain't seen a studio in 20 years
Starting point is 03:14:13 and it sounded all the way fire I'm putting Todd Dollar in that mix he's one of the only people that could do that have a presence they love hip hop I'm doing that for sure. I'm going to be more consistent if I'm Tide Dollar Sign. All of this at one album every five years shit
Starting point is 03:14:27 that's not going to cut it. That's not going to help you cut through all the noise. What else? I'm going outside if I'm Tadala sign. He's been outside. No, I mean... He don't be talking. These niggas just be outside.
Starting point is 03:14:37 What I say outside, I mean popping up talking. I'm being visible. You're going to hear from me, not just music. I want to sit down and do interviews. I got to put something that the people could gravitate to. Or if you don't want to, back to the fucking Daniel Caesar Romani argument. Go just be an amazing because he can play.
Starting point is 03:14:54 He can play bass guitar. You can play instruments. And he can sing. Go do that shit somewhere. And the millions of platforms where they let you do it. Todd Dalla, I agree. Or just outside. He need to hit the grassroots.
Starting point is 03:15:06 Go do the In the Porch series. Yeah, one. Yeah. Go do the in the Cadillac series. Right. Go do the homegrown nigger grassroots shit that's helping people connect to their audience. Tadala, I think, is just,
Starting point is 03:15:20 used to major label, big budget, feature, pay me, big video, and then you're going to connect with the vibes. I think we're past that time. That time is done now. You have to actually go out and show people why they should fuck with your brand. And it starts and ends with you. Not your team, you. I wish Todd Dollar nothing but the best.
Starting point is 03:15:40 Of course. I was disappointed in those numbers when they came back, but I was also halfway disappointed in the album as a huge Todd Dollar sign fan. So I hope he gets it together. we don't have to wait another six and seven years to hear him and he has all my him not even coming up here he's supposed to come up here he canceled the shit he went around and i know i say this all time but nigger we us yeah we are we are y'all y'all are us come up here and talk to talk to your people don't let me just monopolize this fucking audience on some self-sonnish shit come up here
Starting point is 03:16:10 and use it please maybe do some streams with the street with people they slide through the they're talking about saying that on the fix of business go sit with playboy man I don't want I don't want him doing that anyway Kyle will fix it for you I don't want them doing that They sick on saying that in the business segment
Starting point is 03:16:29 We've said it four times We gotta actually fix some shit I don't know Go-Pro called Kai Sanat You gotta get your GoPro with Playboy Max and the streamers They ain't a bad plan though
Starting point is 03:16:43 I wish you can't It can't be the It can't be the It's a band-aid But that also could be the same kind of things that we're looking at now. We were just talking about
Starting point is 03:16:52 with like Instagram and all these other things that are back to the billboard charts all that shit where how much interaction really comes from that. All right. That's a good point.
Starting point is 03:17:02 Do y'all care about BMF canceling? Getting canceled after four seasons. I feel like this was a nothing burger and everybody knew this was going to happen if you followed the 50 cent Meach. That's what it felt like.
Starting point is 03:17:14 This is just the natural. If you watch the show, you kind of wanted BMF to get this over. Yeah, last week. Like, come on, dog. I've been coming in here telling you, like, all right, enough. And does anywhere, lastly, I'll save whatever else I have for Patreon. Lastly, does anyone here care about Trump beginning to test nuclear weapons?
Starting point is 03:17:35 Oh, my God. I mean, I care. Whoa, whoa. I say no in the sense that there's no surprise. And the U.S. is always testing nuclear weapons, even when they don't tell you they're testing nuclear weapons. So them saying that they're testing nuclear weapons signals something, but I think a lot of time it's a power flex. And that's, you see a lot of legal. I think that's all Trump be doing is be up there, like, you know, put a press release
Starting point is 03:17:54 about something that's been happening or I'm already doing it. And make it look like I'm doing some shit. And to that's scary, that, that is scary to me. I'm sorry. You know, I think it's wrong. The U.S. testing nuclear weapons I'm at peace with. Trump testing. I don't feel the same. I don't think it's the same thing. I feel. I feel. I get why. I think he's been testing. But we're not. We're last to that party.
Starting point is 03:18:17 Yeah. We're last to that party. Yeah. And that's all I'm saying. Yeah. I don't feel any more unsafe than I did last week. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. I just think he talks about the shit behind the curtain. Like he just, he don't give a fuck. I'm just going to tell it. Yeah. And which is why a lot of people didn't want him in there. When it makes him
Starting point is 03:18:32 look powerful or great. Of course. Of course. But I'm just saying a lot of, where a lot of other presidents were doing that, just we don't like to blowback from it. I'm not sure that anybody wasn't testing nuclear weapons in this country. They always are. But some presidents, and we saw us in North Korea with Kim Jong-El
Starting point is 03:18:48 and then eventually Kim Jong-un, Sometimes they do nuclear display. They do displays of weapons, of weapons testing as a way of showing, look how powerful or look how mighty we are. We're still in control. Still got my hand on the wheel.
Starting point is 03:18:58 And I think that's what Trump is doing. He's taking a page out of the fascist or the despot leader book, which he is. So it makes sense. Before we go, Mark, we got one week left in the New York mayoral race. Yeah, less than that.
Starting point is 03:19:14 I know you've been glued to this the way I've been glued to it. I'm still indeed glued to it. Along with that Trenton, governor's shit. That shit got you in a chokehold, them commercials. I'm finally seeing the other side's commercials. Right?
Starting point is 03:19:28 Like, I've seen nothing but Jack Chittarelli is a shithead. This week, I've seen the woman that he's running up against and what he's saying against her. Jack Chirrelli, you're done, buddy. It's over. Mikey, Sher. Home girl. You familiar with her?
Starting point is 03:19:42 He tried to say some compelling shit, but it didn't work. It didn't work. Trent, if you listen out there, as a New Jersey. resident for most of my life with the key to mad New Jersey cities. I'm not voting Jack Chitterelli. Fuck out of here. But the New York shit.
Starting point is 03:20:00 Some uneducated takes for me. Uneducated takes for me. Eric Adams, you like a sucker standing by in Cuomo. You do. Yeah, you do. He looks so soft back there because of his because I heard him. The bravado, I heard what he was saying.
Starting point is 03:20:15 But Eric Adams do look like he's having private calls with Trump and being kind of... It looks like that. To my uneducated political opinion, it looks like that. So you look nuts back there, Eric Adams. What else? What else?
Starting point is 03:20:30 What else? I'm still laughing at the Curtis Leeward commercials. Yeah. Classic. But it appears that Mom Donnie is going to... If we're going by the looks of it... It's a done deal. I mean, it looks that way.
Starting point is 03:20:41 Yeah, it's been a done deal, but then there was this moment where people worried that the Adams' withdrawal could lead to enough votes. But Curtis Leeward didn't pull out. which honestly means that Republicans are going to vote Republican. It's hard to get Republicans, people who register a Republican in New York to vote independent. They're Republican for a reason. Do you think it makes a difference if Slee would drops out?
Starting point is 03:21:01 Or if he dropped out? If he had dropped out at the exact moment that they wanted him to, which was when Adams did, it would have been a competitive race because then what would happen is those numbers don't add up to Mounde's, but what does act, when you start to see people say, oh, wait, you can win. Oh, we'll dump more money into your campaign. Oh, there'll be bigger ads. They'll take more risks.
Starting point is 03:21:18 They're not taking no risks on Cuomo because it's too big of a... Well, bigger ads historically have meant bigger turnout. Yes. Right? This race, again, my very uneducated opinion, seems to come down to, and even just watching the commercials and some of the debates, I think New York is just too expensive for people to not go mom-dome. I think that's right.
Starting point is 03:21:42 See, I think New York just costs too much. So his message of hope and the time that it comes at versus what Trump is trying to do with Blue States versus Red States, I think it's just a perfect gumbo right now. I think New Yorkers are going to surprise people. I think that Cuomo has a bigger dog in this fight than people think.
Starting point is 03:22:05 And I think that whether the Republicans are going to come forward and say they rocking with Curtis Sleeva, I don't think majority of the Republicans will vote fam. I think the majority of the Republicans are looking for, to vote for Cuomo and they can mask it however they see fit, but only you in the booth when you go vote. What do you say to the people that say that the New York we're seeing is Cuomo's New York?
Starting point is 03:22:29 Currently? Yeah. I think they're wrong. I think this is Eric Adams is New York. I don't think this is Cuomo's New York. But these prices and shit, the main things that are in contesting. Yeah. We have been here since Cuomo.
Starting point is 03:22:40 Yeah, before. They've been here before Cuomo. True. This ain't a Cuomo thing. Cuomo don't do this to New York City. New York City has been ridiculously. expensive. When did Cuomo take office to New York? Because I don't know that to be
Starting point is 03:22:52 true. When did he get there? When he was governor? He became governor. I don't know. Somebody just Google it quick while we continue to conversation. New York has been expensive since where. When is it? When do you feel like you can pinpoint that turn and I don't want to regionalize us out? I'm telling you that since we were children, New York has been highly.
Starting point is 03:23:10 Oh, okay. No, but I think that's the point. I think it's just right, but I think that's the point is that Cuomo is the status quo. 2011. And I think that and I think that this is what Oh, yeah, I disagree that. Look, this is what I don't like in politics. I don't like in politics where people start quoting shit, and this is what Trump did.
Starting point is 03:23:25 I don't like in politics where people just start saying the correct shit to say, but they can't physically do the shit. Donald Trump went on TV and told everybody, y'all fucked up, y'all poor, y'all broke, I'm empathizing with y'all, and I can change it. And he can't. And I think this is what Homeboy's doing. I think Homeboy's saying some of the same shit.
Starting point is 03:23:44 I think he's saying, yo, I'm going to give the buses for free, and I'm going to do all. You cannot do that. And I think you're promising people's shit that you can't do and you plan on people's desperation. And I think that shit is whack when politicians do it. I don't give a fuck what side of the aisle they're on. And we're calling it out for Trump, lying the motherfucker saying,
Starting point is 03:23:59 I'm going to make groceries cheaper and I'm going to make housing cheaper and I'm going to make all of these things cheaper. He can't do that. He don't possess the ability to do that. I think that homeboy don't possess the ability to do some of the shit that he's saying he's going to do. That's true. And I think that that's whack.
Starting point is 03:24:11 I think that that's true. At the same time, I also don't think that New York was this way in 2011. and I'm saying this as someone that is not so politically inclined just as someone living out here you can see where there's not a home for middle class people in New York
Starting point is 03:24:30 more evident than ever before to me. I think that's been a topic on this podcast for a little while as a podcast that ain't in the politics. And that happened. And that happened. We just got more money now so we're looking at more shit now. I've been in the real estate game since 2003.
Starting point is 03:24:45 New York has been high as giraffe pussy back then. But we're not talking about real estate- I'm talking about but cost of living the major expenditure that most people have is rent or mortgage.
Starting point is 03:24:55 So that's everybody's biggest bill across the board. Right? So if your rent in New York City in 2011 was $3,500 or $3,000, my nigga, the cost of living is high as shit.
Starting point is 03:25:07 That's just, wham, that's just number one. Cost of rent. And that's most people's biggest bill. So you can't say that it wasn't as high maybe in the last few years
Starting point is 03:25:15 it's gotten the gap between rich and poor is growing a lot but that's not just because of New York that's because of jobs that's because of technology that's because of outsourcing and all that other shit
Starting point is 03:25:27 on his real estate conversation everything is more expensive as someone who lives in New York who has apartment shopped in the last apartment shop all the time really crazy it's much more expensive than it used to me that being said everything is much more expensive
Starting point is 03:25:38 than it used to be that's what I'm saying yeah I yeah that's for sure I think Mumdani has some things within his power some things he can't But I think having a vision, a progressive vision
Starting point is 03:25:48 for what the city could look like is in it. And what he's, yeah. I think that means. I think people need hope. I think people need plans. I agree. Actionable plans. I think making buses free as possible.
Starting point is 03:25:58 He didn't say he's gonna make all of public transportation free, but buses, I think you can make for me. When you look at his plan, I think it seems doable. So when you make buses free and then they lay off mad MTA workers because they're not being as profitable as the MTA once was, and then we gonna bitch at that. Like yo dog, I just think that. But that's not what he's, that's not what he's not, that's not, I'm just giving you an example.
Starting point is 03:26:19 But it's not an example. This is a real thing. That's what I'm saying. What part of his plan do you find unworkable? I don't think that he could possibly make the buses free in the city. Well, how's he proposing to do it? I don't know the, I don't know the ends and outs. How do you know he can't do it?
Starting point is 03:26:30 That's what I feel like he's given reasons. He said, I mean, I don't mean to cut you off. Go ahead. I think that what you are going to propose is going to have kickbacks. And I think when you propose these things, again, to whatever policy, bro, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a realist, number one. And then I think finances play a part in everything. And so I think
Starting point is 03:26:52 when you start doing, taking money from here, the money got to come from someone. And where's he proposing to take it from? I don't know. Then how, okay, I would only say respectfully that we should at least look at the plan. Before we say it can't happen, we should at least see what he's asking. Because what he's saying to take it from, and you might still disagree, but I just think it's better to know
Starting point is 03:27:08 his plan before we say the plan can't work. That seems fair. True. He's saying that raising corporate taxes, he's saying more aggressively collecting unpaid bills from elites, particularly like water bills and things like that. So he's not saying take from this public source that's getting funded and put it over there. He's saying this money does not be being collected
Starting point is 03:27:25 that can be more aggressively collected, and he's saying that there are people who aren't paying their fair share at the highest levels. Now, I'm not saying there's not a consequence to every action has a reaction, but I do think, at least the financial experts, I'm not a financial expert, so I can't say. But the economists that I know who've looked at, and the financial experts I know who've looked at it
Starting point is 03:27:42 have said that this is a workable plan. buddy there could be a large a large portion of people that think that his ideas are not doable and sound preposterous there's a lot of people that just like someone with new ideas true and that i.e. Donald Trump Cuomo just keeps saying he never had the job so he never had a girl he don't have experience he don't and that I just don't think it's enough for savvy New Yorkers I would I'm not disagree with you but when you start talking about the corporate the corporate be going to make the corporations pay more taxes? Everybody in this room, I hope, knows that
Starting point is 03:28:17 corporation pay no taxes. So unless you're going to go restructure the entire tax system... That's what he's proposing. He's saying raising the corporate tax rate. Cool. And the powers that be are not going to... We're going off on the tangent. No, that's the exact point. The powers that be run New York.
Starting point is 03:28:34 Not him. The powers that be run the United States of America, not him. The powers that be run the world, not him. Or these smaller people that have these huge, monstrous ideas. And so when The heartbeat of New York is corporate America. And so now when you start beating up the heartbeat of New York, it's going to be pushback.
Starting point is 03:28:51 And I don't think that he's going to be able to deliver on that, is what I'm saying. If he does, he does. I just don't. I think it's a far. I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't go that far. But I call it a farce. But I do think that his overall agenda is a progressive one.
Starting point is 03:29:10 And some of it can be an actor. You used the Trump example. Trump wasn't able to build a wall. I know. Trump told the niggas in West Virginia he's going to bring coal back. No, no, but hear what I'm saying. They voted for him. No, but hear what I'm saying. But the person who wanted Trump to build a wall had a certain vision of what the world should look like.
Starting point is 03:29:24 And that vision is being enacted in policy. So maybe like only half of what they want that he promised, or even 25% what he promises there, but it's still moving in a different direction. The country's still moving in the direction that they want now. And I'm saying similarly with Mumdani, let's say he doesn't make buses free, but public transportation gets cut in half.
Starting point is 03:29:40 Let's say we don't lower the price of rent, but rent control gets stabilized in more places. This is still a different direction. And I think for a lot of people, it's not just I'm saying the shit you want to hear, which I agree would be, like, empty. But I'm saying he's actually moving us in a different direction, and that's helpful.
Starting point is 03:29:56 I agree with you on the Trump point, but it's two-faceted. So the Trump point where he appeals to the idea of these elitist or these racists or whatever, that is definitely moving in the right direction. But he also appealed to the desperation of the American people, and he has not delivered on that. And a lot of people voted for him based on that particular thing.
Starting point is 03:30:14 The people with the wall and the ice, they did. He doing what they want him to do. But over here, these motherfuckers that he appealed to them saying, yo, I'm going to fix groceries. He has not done a fucking thing. I'm going to lower gas. He has not done a fucking thing.
Starting point is 03:30:27 I'm going to bring jobs back to America. He has not done a fucking thing. And those are the things that got him elected to me. Right. And that's because some of those things to your point are outside of Trump's control, right? The things as a mayor of a city that he's proposed, I think, are much more actionable.
Starting point is 03:30:41 If Mundani were running for governor or president with the same proposals, I'd say, well, no, you know, this isn't doable. But mayors have been able to affect rent. Mayors are able to affect roads and they're able to affect housing. And I think that this is an opportunity. But I mean, we'll obviously see, because I think he's going to win and we'll find out. But I think it's possible or at least doable.
Starting point is 03:30:59 I don't think he's selling pie in the sky and a great buy and buy. We'll see. Because this is New York. This ain't my fucking, this ain't a regular city, A lot of them rich New Yorkers, they wanted their shit to count in Florida. So they're doing their 50, and for tax reasons, a lot of the most influential New Yorkers, they're not voting in New York.
Starting point is 03:31:17 They're voting in Florida. So that's also a really important thing to think about in terms of who's going to make this thing happen. But anyway, we'll find out. In closing, do you see Cuomo winning? No, I think, I just think it's going to be tighter than what people think. I think Curtis Lewa is a joke to most of the New Yorkers. I don't think he has the Republican vote. I think Cuomo has the Republican vote.
Starting point is 03:31:37 And Malcolm, you think, Malcolm? Yeah. That is Malcolm. I think Lewell gets the majority of the Republican vote. I don't see any way where he doesn't. Who do you see winning? Mum Donnie by 60%. Got it, got it.
Starting point is 03:31:49 Especially if Leewell gets the Republican vote, he's going to wipe the board with everybody else across the thing. We'll see. Slee will keep posting pictures of him from 84. It's over him. We don't care nothing about that little hell's angels. That hat you keep wearing. Guardian angels.
Starting point is 03:32:06 Guardian, yo. Don't disrespect the hell's animals. Angels. Yeah. If he walked around being guardian angel today, these little niggas Angels
Starting point is 03:32:12 Angels, guardian angels, Victoria's Angels. Show you some Angels. California Angels. Yeah, yeah. All of the angels.
Starting point is 03:32:18 Really good part today. Ice, before we leave, Disney pulls from YouTube all of their shit, which is FX, National Geographic, ABC.
Starting point is 03:32:28 From YouTube TV. From YouTube TV. From YouTube TV, from channels. Yes. Close us out. Yeah, I got the email actually last night
Starting point is 03:32:35 because I actually subscribed to YouTube TV. Oh, you got it too? Yeah, they don't. I've had it out of it. You don't have YouTube TV-ish. Go ahead, freeze.
Starting point is 03:32:44 Yeah, they just said they couldn't. He can't have nothing. He's like, I got to run the water. He's like, no, fuck you don't get up. You got to fucking run the water. And then they say, yo, he always competing with Joe. He wanted to be like Joe. Okay.
Starting point is 03:32:58 That's a good one. Yeah, they just, they say they couldn't come to terms. And what's happening is, what happened was happening is ESPN has their own app. I want you to come here. So I'm going to charge you out the ass to go over there. You know, to license it to y'all, I'm going to put an astronomical number. Yeah, the company's going to say, now we're not going to pay that.
Starting point is 03:33:26 Okay, cool, we don't want you to pay that. Now, everybody that wants to watch. All of that. Bring it on over here. They've already consolidated their apps. They got Disney, Hulu, and ESPN in one hub now. So yeah, I want you to come here. It makes it.
Starting point is 03:33:40 It makes all the sense of the world. If you got YouTube TV, you can't screw right now. You can't see your ABC affiliates. You can't watch sports. You can't do a lot of stuff. So I think they're going to come to terms because I think Disney got them where they want them, to your point. But until then, you got to. Y'all got to you got to.
Starting point is 03:33:55 Is the World Series? Can y'all see the World Series? I don't watch baseball. You don't watch baseball. You don't care. But I have everything anyway. Yeah, Toronto, right. Getting busy.
Starting point is 03:34:02 They're on the brink as of this conversation. Yeah, I don't want to date this podcast. but they got to show up tonight, the Dodgers. I think I've accepted that I, as a Philadelphia and I hate the Toronto Blue Jays because of what they did to us back in 93. I can't get over that Joe Carter home run. The entire league would be happy if the Blue Jays win. And I had to accept that because I can't, the Dodgers put us out, but.
Starting point is 03:34:25 I came and hit all the day and said all the Dodgers cheating. Like the Dodgers were viewed as this powerhouse unbeatable. They swept us last year, right? We won a game. won a game that's my dad too yeah yeah that that's not good if you do that to the Yankees on the biggest stage it's bad for the parody of baseball you want the team that doesn't have this fucking no salary cap in baseball no so you want the team that is built like a baseball team to beat the team that has spent the
Starting point is 03:34:55 nine hundred gazillion dollars yeah exactly exactly anytime the super team makes it to the finals yeah that's such bullshit because when New York was building the super team ain't no New York can say that But the rest of the world did. The rest of the people did. We were all pissed. We were all pissed. First we were happening, Boston built their own kind of super team.
Starting point is 03:35:13 And then the Mets built their super team, but didn't work. And then it was like, okay. No, the Yankees have been building one for 20 years. Well, that's what you're saying. What you're saying? What y'all saying is not fear. When the Yankees were doing this when George Steinbrenner was alive, he was saying, I'm not doing anything that other teams cannot do, right?
Starting point is 03:35:31 Okay. When he died, began bidding on players. which changes everything. It does, but... That's not just a salary cap. We've all got the same money, which was a lot too, because we all don't have the same money.
Starting point is 03:35:44 If you have your own channel, New York has more money. Steinbrenner always had more money. The Mets weren't even winning and they had more money. Exactly. Markets have more money. But today, when we're doing
Starting point is 03:35:54 blind bids on superstar Japanese players and Dominican players, it's not just Japanese players, yeah, your money don't really matter at that point. Yeah. And I hope we get back to the point where farm systems matter.
Starting point is 03:36:08 How you money don't matter at that point? Yeah, I disagree. It's a blind bid. You're rich, I'm rich. We can all do the same thing. You can't see nobody. You can't see nothing that nobody is doing. Okay.
Starting point is 03:36:17 Yeah, but like if you look at the blue. So if you want this guy, right? Like this new Japanese prospect, I wish I could get his name right now, but I don't have it. Everybody's going to bet the house because of what's going on. Like we're in the middle of something.
Starting point is 03:36:30 But when Homeboy went, the Red Sox was short by half of many millions. The Yankees were short for the, And these are franchises in major cities that also have all the money in the world. We're just not doing it. We can't see. We're not willing to go that far.
Starting point is 03:36:43 So it's how far are you willing to go? The Dodgers brought in new management, I mean, new ownership, fucking magic in all these niggas. They're just going to operate differently. And they've seen the result of that. If I know my opponent got a lot of bread and I got a lot of bread,
Starting point is 03:36:58 I'm going to shoot for the moon. Right. But put a number of, even if you can afford it. Also, what's not fair not to interrupt on fuck with that. Also, what's not fair is, is when the bid for Otani was going, what was happening,
Starting point is 03:37:09 what they were saying in baseball circles was this is a done deal for the Dodgers already. He's not willing to go to any other city. Japan is right there. He's close to the home. We're in LA. It's just unfair on levels that have more to do with just money. Exactly.
Starting point is 03:37:23 I mean, I think every team has a, and if it were basketball, where you've got 12 guys and one player can really kind of change the whole franchise, I think it's easier for the smaller market team to stay in the mix. But in a baseball team, I mean, first of all,
Starting point is 03:37:34 rarely is the guy pitcher and an offensive play. and a position player, right? But even if they were, if you're Milwaukee, that's a good example. The Brewers are an excellent baseball team. Well-structured, great line of one through nine, strong bullpen. But they ain't got the money that the Dodgers have. They don't have the money that the Yankees or the Mets have.
Starting point is 03:37:51 They could bid for an old tiny type player. It's a cap. But yeah, but it's an informal cap because then what you're going to do with the other positions as they age out, whereas the Dodgers can have four of those. The Phillies, we got three guys. You know what I mean? When we got Bryce Harper, we didn't blink. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 03:38:05 Yankees and Mets don't blink. I think, and we're still looking at it to step up. So I still think... You think there needs to be a salary captain baseball? No, no, I don't think so. So then you can't bitch about the unfairness. You either can have it one way or another. Y'all not responding to everything.
Starting point is 03:38:19 Listen to that. You're saying, you're not just talking about the money. I know, you're saying it's unfair stuff, but all of the unfairness that you based everything was on money. That's not true. Like, you based on... L.A. being right there about Japan. That ain't L.A. fault.
Starting point is 03:38:32 That's true. Like, certain niggas don't want to go to play for the the bucks. They don't want to be in Milwaukee. They prefer to be in bigger markets, larger markets. Yeah. Houston, I mean, not Houston, Texas. Florida, they don't have state taxes.
Starting point is 03:38:47 It's other things that go into where somebody wants to go to play. But you're making the point. That can't be solved by salary cap. No, those things can't be solved by salary cap. But I'm saying for the Eon, you just said that New York, based on demo, has more money than smaller market teams. I'd like to be creative about it.
Starting point is 03:39:05 I understand what you're saying. We got a channel. Yeah. And it's New York City. We could charge more for a ticket in New York City than we could charge for it in. I don't, I don't, I guess something's, I don't want to cap players money as a solution to this. I don't know, I don't have a solution off top of my head of how to fix this, but I would imagine there's something other than a salary cap that we could think of
Starting point is 03:39:25 that would allow at least these elite players to not keep going to the same three cities. Or do you put a rule in play? That's what I'm saying. I can't have no more than two. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Two Max players or whatever you want to call. That's what I'm saying. That would be a perfect example of how to do it.
Starting point is 03:39:42 So we'll figure it out. Got it. And Max. This ain't Lil' Kim Mona. I was about to start spittance. Look at Mona. I don't want dick tonight. Look at Mona.
Starting point is 03:39:55 Want him ready, love. Eat that pussy right. Hey. That nigga pop feet. You. Last week. On. Real good episode today, real, real important.
Starting point is 03:40:08 If you ever thought this song was about anal sex? What'd you say? Have you ever thought this song was really about anal sex? No. Me either. Let's just carry on like that, didn't happen. Big miss. Big miss.
Starting point is 03:40:20 I see why they got rid of that club that y'all had. There's shit going on in that club. We turned out of that club. Yeah, sure know. Hey. Really enjoyed the topics slate tonight. This was great. It is.
Starting point is 03:40:33 Again, happy Halloween to y'all. out there. Here it goes. I can turn me now. You show you how. Hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there until the next time.
Starting point is 03:40:57 We bid you adieu. Farewell. Adios, Eriva, Durche. Osta, Arvois. So long, goodbye, or simple head nod. That bass song got a little butt sex pop to it. This is a butt sex song. Y'all gets to pretend I'm crazy.
Starting point is 03:41:09 It does. The little, the little, the bass line songs, or no shit. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel. And the closed mind that women want you to teach them things.
Starting point is 03:41:32 The clocks go back tonight. Yes, sir. Daylight saving. No, this is the good one because we get an hour. Yeah. Okay. We get an extra hour. That's an extra hour in the strip club tonight.
Starting point is 03:42:07 Hey. Hey. What y'all doing this weekend since we talk my day like savings? What y'all on? What y'all on? What y'all on out there? I'm in Chicago. All right.
Starting point is 03:42:22 Shout to the shy. Shout to the shot. Quick stop in the shy. All right. Halloween party. That's it. All right. This is going to be shy.
Starting point is 03:42:31 That's it. I'm traveling. I'll tell y'all later. Got it, got it, got it. Demona? I'm getting paid to shake my ass to stand on the couch. Hey, Docvins this weekend. Williams and a lot.
Starting point is 03:42:43 Ready, get ready. Ready. Let's get that screen record. Ready. You know they got it. I'm not doing too much, man. I'll be spending some time with my youngest. My drop him off at around 11.
Starting point is 03:42:59 Hey! We're doing it. You all the day. Hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Shout to the parents out there. Shout to the kids out there. Everybody that dressed up for Halloween. Shout to Chef Kino and Chef Edith's chefing it up for us a Halloween.
Starting point is 03:43:21 Shafing it up for us a Halloween. JPP, where to be without the JVP? We'll fold that up right now. You've never heard of Joe, buddy?

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