The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 874 | "Miley & Molly"
Episode Date: November 1, 2025The latest episode from the JBP kicks off with Halloween 2025 before turning to new music in which we have new albums from Big L (40:10), Lloyd Banks (45:55), Westside Gunn (48:00), and DJ Premier & R...ansom (49:05). Offset drops a new project as the room reacts to lyrics aimed at Cardi B and Stefon Diggs (52:38), Joe addresses Ish over an AI song from last episode (1:13:14), and for the first time in three decades no Rap song ranks in the Billboard top-40 (1:37:05). Also, the JBP reacts to Suzanne Somers' husband creating an AI model off of the late actress (1:57:04), JAY-Z vs. the field in a Verzuz (2:10:48), Amanda Seales weighs in on a new series being executive produced by Keke Palmer (2:19:50), Joe reacts to licensing your likeness to businesses after the release of a new ADIDAS shoe (2:30:19), Sydney Sweeney's appearance at Variety Power of Women event (2:52:54), Ty Dolla $ign's first-week sales lead the cast to discuss his career moving forward (3:10:54), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden
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Yeah.
Girl.
Yeah, you talk.
You're in trouble.
How about that?
You can talk.
Okay.
What's up, everybody?
How's that?
Nobody can talk because I got that's on.
Feeling good.
Feeling good.
Mike's it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Happy Halloween.
Happy Halloween.
Even though it was yesterday, but still.
So what?
Halloween weekend.
Character day.
The whole.
And look, look, for the hose,
Halloween lasts all weekend.
That's true.
And maybe next week.
Yeah.
So happy Halloween, y'all.
We just,
We just told y'all two weeks ago we don't celebrate this shit.
Now look at us.
Look at a bunch of doofs.
Y'all did not take that well.
You're so upset.
Took my little fast-ass right to Abercadabra the other day.
Lying around the block and nobody clearly knew pump it up.
Last minute, ass, niggins.
I was standing outside just in the rain.
Old-ass security guard looking at me, just blowing cigarette smoke in my face.
It was a real one.
It was a line outside
Yes, it was a line five blocks
around the corner
Oh yeah, yeah, you can't wait
till last minute
You can't, right?
But then something happened in the store
and they needed him to go inside
Stuck right there's lit
Got right up in there
So he needed y'all to go inside there
Got right up in there
Did my thing
Did my thing up in the Africa Dabra
Shout to everybody listening
For Halloween
Anybody outside right there
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah, yeah
It's popping
Listen I can't talk
So I'm gonna get right to it
y'all got me in this mask
y'all get the intro
and y'all get a thumbnail
and I'm taking this shit
all got a migraine
yeah your eyes look all crazy
god damn
mark ain't moved
I can't breathe in his joints
look at Mark Myers
look at Mark Myers over there
oh shit
freeze what's there who you is
a black ninja
I thought you was I thought he was being it
in it when he was in his 30
Oh shit
The karate phase
Yeah
Oh shit
He made red belt
Yeah
It should be here shortly
Hopefully
I'm sure he probably
Won't dress up
Yeah
It should be here at some point
I think you got to
He got to do this shit
He got to do this shit
No
Oh yeah
No
I did enough Halloween's here
To know how people do
I went in there
And bought mass for all
I wasn't
playing with them this year. No,
service. So we got masks.
In the name of Ice, man. The Ice came prepared.
We left to make you last year. Yeah, yeah, y'all left me
on the limb last year. I got you this year.
And this year, I was like, you know what? I'm not even
taking the change of clothes. I said, yo, I'm the only one.
I'm the only one. Fuck. I packed the change.
I wish you would have texted me, bro, because I would have dressed that with you,
bro. This game.
You know, I text you, you don't text back.
I'm working on. Oh, shit.
She's the worst text her in. Ever.
On the whole team. Yeah, no. She don't text back.
At all.
And she'll read it.
Never.
And she got a rubber seat on.
Oh my God, Corey, not you too.
Noah is only saying that he'll text back because I literally text him four days ago.
He still has a text back.
Mauna, I don't think you're texting the right number, baby.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
Because I'd be texting you like and like to check on like your mental health.
And you just leave that shit like.
She don't give a fuck, bro.
She got seven phone numbers.
Stop it.
Stop it.
Well, then there's that.
And I was checking on you because they tried to, you know what I mean?
but...
Okay.
If you're against guns, consider this.
Gun violence kills 30,000 people each year.
So they should take away our guns, right?
Car crashes kill 55,000.
Should they take away our Asians?
Oh, shit.
Yo.
Yo.
That's a good one.
Oh
Yes, sir
I'm sorry if you can't hear me
Yeah, it's all good
I can't hear
Oh shit
That's it
That's ish
Y'all
That better not be ish
Oh, this is my man from jail too
He knows true
Damn
I'm not dubbed the jail call
God damn
I'll call you back
Yes sir!
Move with the mask on.
Mark Meyer.
The video is scary.
It was a scary Mona.
Well, you were little?
You were on a wet block.
Yeah, word.
It should have to look familiar.
It was a little head close to home.
Yes, sir.
We have a good time today.
The applause, girl, for the best crew in the word.
Oh my God. Okay.
What episode is this?
874.
Welcome to episode.
Episode 874 of the Joe Button podcast, brought to you by a few by Power by Pride Fix.
Price is gang.
I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here.
Host Joe Button, Heel, some really amazing people to my right.
Listen, y'all got about two.
Actually, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, enough.
You did, you did it.
You did it.
You did it.
Mark is sitting there.
You ever, like, try to put your cat or dog in an outfit or something when they just sit there looking stupid?
Oh, my God.
That's exactly how you float.
this entire intro.
Yeah, he's just sitting there like.
Oh, what a whole new world.
Like you're gonna punch me.
From under that damn mask.
Oh, we can take them off?
We can take them off?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can take that off.
I just lifted mine up.
Whoa.
The things we do in the name of content, I tell you.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
But last year we left Freeze out to dry.
I appreciate you.
I wasn't going to do that this year.
I'm here with you freeze.
I told them niggas to bust the glass
in abricadabing when they ain't know
who Joe Button was.
was looking at me like I was in there trying to steal shit.
Because in the daytime, I walk out looking like that.
I walk out looking homeless.
It's a trick.
It's a trick.
Does it work?
Does it work?
Does the trick work?
Does it work?
They ignored me like they would the homeless.
Good.
Yeah, no, but I had a good time in there.
Good to see everybody.
Good to be here today.
Likewise.
To my right, you know the fucking vibes.
Racking up the tardies, I tell you.
Racking up the Tarties, I tell you.
I tell you.
Make some noise.
Don't call white girls.
And let me put some respect on that.
It's the part of the month.
Huh?
Part of the month.
If you don't know, if you didn't know.
I'm excited.
Thank you.
Thank you everybody.
First month on the gig.
I don't even know if it's been a full month.
And you take potter of the month.
How do you feel?
It's exciting.
You have a speech for the people that voted for you out there?
First of all, to all my supporters
that came over here with you.
me, I appreciate y'all.
Me too.
That's the only funny, because it's true.
To the people that had no idea who I was and enjoyed me,
I'm so glad that you like me.
I do.
You're happy to have you.
Yeah, and yeah, I just appreciate it.
Like, you know, it's exciting.
Oh, you don't do well with vulnerable.
Now I can talk shit in the break room a little more.
Thank you so much.
The break room is just right there.
And I have you winning next month too.
No.
Mark says differently, but what does he know?
Honestly, when I was seeing it, I thought that that was just something that like the communities do.
I didn't know it was like a thing.
I mean, the community votes, but we take it very seriously because we led a community.
Oh, okay.
I didn't know that.
That's what it is.
That's exciting.
Okay.
Next to Mona, or used to be part of the month, many, many months ago.
It was really impactful, back.
I don't know what's been going on.
He let him money take two from him.
He let him take him from me.
He let him money take two from him.
He'll be chilling already.
You was like celebrating.
He's done new shirts.
Five in a row, man.
I ain't need no shirts in a while.
It's okay.
Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, is in the building.
How you feeling, Mark?
I feel good, man.
I feel good.
I feel good.
Good.
Glad to have you here.
Of course, next to him,
you already know the vibes.
Your favorite potter's favorite potter.
Mr.
fucking take your.
further. Big freezes in the building.
What's going on? How are y'all feeling? Real good, real good.
How you doing, man? I'm great. I'm great.
Good, good. Glad to be here, ready to get the pot.
Now, you are prepared for, if you
see somebody while you're in this outfit
for them to try, for them to try you out.
I was just thinking that.
You got to be prepped for that.
He's got the shirt still on, too, so
it kind of, you know what? And he's in the gym.
Could be a little goat.
Stop, bad, because I did
court a day, and I can't laugh
because my stomach hurt like a motherfucker.
Yeah, you did.
that core
and you might
when nobody
by not
yeah
they're gonna test
that core out
no worry about it
they're gonna see
how much core
you did
good to have
our good brother
freeze with us
last but certainly
not at least
not even last
we got some
type
you took the horns
off
I did
yeah
they're
they're tight
they are they are
they are
so I'm like
the beast
or Prince
Charming
or my
Yakubian self
yeah
I mean
like a little
mix of all three
I like it
I like
like a
gay
pirate devil.
A gay pirate devil is so spot a way.
But you're looking good.
I'm glad all of us were feeling festive today.
Everybody looks amazing.
We got big Paul in the building.
Paul, you don't do the Halloween shit.
Why y'all think because y'all ain't on camera,
y'all ain't like the rules don't apply to y'all?
Should have.
Thanks.
It's good.
Thanks.
Should have.
Yeah, that's when people take an accountability
don't feel good when they do it too fast.
Right.
Like, no, let's soaking it for a second.
What?
We got Big Corr in the building.
Erickson's here.
Erickson is here.
Big Juice is here.
Savon and Tanna are here by remote.
Last but certainly not least,
each and every one of you guys is here.
Iss is on the way here, I think.
Probably he probably had to stop by the Abergibber or Spirit Halloween.
Probably so.
Most likely.
I anticipate him being dressed to the nines.
Yeah, I can't wait to see it.
Shout to flip our good brother here with us in spirit.
What's Papa?
What's Papa?
What's Papa?
How we doing, man?
Feeling great, man.
Happy Halloween. Happy Hoverim. Happy Hary. Happy Character Day.
Yes. Character Day.
Character Day is better.
Character Day. Happy character.
Oh, my Lord. Politically correct.
I want to encourage everyone out there to be careful.
Safe. For sure.
Safe. Safety first.
You know what's funny. Do kids still do mischief night?
Remember that?
That's a jersey question.
Adults are doing it.
Why do you say that's a jersey question?
It's a Jersey thing.
Oh, New York City doesn't do mischief night?
I think that's a jersey question.
of Jersey and then Michigan's got
Devil's night. Philly definitely did
Michigan night. That's all we used to do.
We did that more than Halloween.
We celebrated that but not Halloween.
I mean, we toilet papered and egged in all that shit.
We did mischief night. We just didn't call it. It was just Halloween.
Was it always the night before? Because that's
what the mystery night was the night before.
Maybe they did in New York. Upstate, they did
not. We just toilet paper shit.
Smoked weed and got drunken.
So if you're being mischievous, be
like reasonably mischievous or
devilish. Don't break nobody's shit.
Yeah, don't break nobody's shit. Yeah, don't
break nobody's shit.
Missing night's been canceled for 10 years.
You're gonna be sitting in there for a week.
Then find out.
I hope that I can run my door with that mischief night shit.
It ain't called.
Mischief Life,
nah,
Mischief Night anymore.
It's just life.
Right.
Life is just dangerous and risky.
Seriously.
Every day.
So please try to make it home to your families and eggs are expensive.
That's the goal.
Making it home.
I don't think people throwing eggs,
no.
They're throwing shit and they stealing shit.
I told you last shit.
Two years ago they stole my Benny Hanna.
Huh?
And I chased these kids.
Yeah, they stole.
Your leftovers?
Uh-huh.
You had Uber-Eats at the door.
It was $200 worth of a Benny Hanna.
I hate when that happens because you'd be mad hungry.
And I ordered it.
It was like the last thing before they closed, so nothing else was open.
And I was in Maplewood and my mother-in-law's house.
Yeah, I left $200 with a fucking Benny Hanna.
And I heard a car speed off.
So you know what I did.
Chase them?
Yeah.
No.
Mark, you chased her.
So what happened?
I chased him down one block, chasing down three blocks,
and I ain't no Maplewood.
Then I made a laugh
and suddenly didn't look like Maplewood no more.
Apparently I was in Ivy Hill.
Then I went to the back of some house
and it didn't look like the projects
and his name's like who you're looking for.
And I was like nobody.
You could have that little volcano onion.
There's like some soy sauce sauce.
I got the fuck about it.
Once I saw where I was like it ain't worth it
but I was definitely chasing him for a while.
I was like that Mark is crazy.
I was like, ain't nobody from Maplewood still
in my fucking Benny Hunter.
I was going to say,
my wife last weekend ordered Uber Eats
at like 4 in the morning
and when I went out to get the mail in the morning,
it was just sitting there.
So I was going to say,
did you just not go out and get it and fall asleep?
No, I was ordered Halloween candy.
I didn't even fall asleep.
It was like maybe 10 minutes.
It was like to fight 10 minutes.
And it was just going with it.
I'm sorry that happened to you.
I was very upset.
And I'm glad you were safe.
Yeah, I'm glad you said fuck that food.
I wish I caught them before they got the day little housing project.
Even after 11 is dangerous.
That's a fact.
Or it can be.
I'm just so curious and I'm also envisioning
you attempting to put a nigga in the fool Nelson
and trying to get the Benny Hana out there.
What you got there was like,
Nickle, give it up.
He's got rage.
I don't have rage, but it's the principal
sometimes.
It's the principle.
We've seen the rage on Ken.
That wasn't rage.
That's anger.
I'll pop a nigga over his fucking
shit for our rice too.
Fuck it.
My wife gets mad at me.
Anyway, we talk about another time.
But yeah.
I don't like people steal my shit.
I don't think none of us like it.
You ever was ordering something
and you catching the restaurant
at the very last minute
and then right it.
you about to press in,
here go,
your girl.
Oh my God.
Can I see the menu?
I'm hungry, too.
And now she's going to take 90 years,
the restaurant closed,
and now you're both starving.
And now you eat McDonald's.
Yeah.
That story in my life.
I don't even tell her to them
why I just order some shit.
For her too?
Yeah, that's smart.
Yeah, smart.
So where you're going to get some shit?
Tricky, because she normally orders better than me.
But either way.
It don't matter what you order with me
because when my food gets there,
she wants my food.
That's true, too.
Yeah, food.
taste better. What the fuck does that mean?
My blood pressure went up just hearing you say it.
I swear to God your food does taste better.
And our sweaters, sweatshirts feel better.
It don't matter. We order the same thing. We can order
the same pasta dish. Y'all's
have more crab in it. It's always like that.
I have to take yours and make sure
you're okay. No, y'all
are crabs. How am I going to know
if it's poisoned or not? If I don't taste
when I start doing this at the table, it's
poison.
It's crazy because
all that shit they say of our women, not
not knowing what they want to eat,
acting, confused, being crazy when they're hungry,
it's all true.
Thank you.
It's all true.
We're psychotic.
It's good to hear that.
When it comes to food, yeah.
It's good to hear that.
Yeah.
But if you know that, why you can't just pick the restaurant.
Because when we pick the restaurant,
it's I don't want that.
Right.
That's why.
When I say pick the restaurant,
I mean pick five.
I'm glad you owned that.
I mean, it's true.
But it's awesome.
And I'll own everything the girls say about
dude Instacard deliverers.
Oh, they're muffling.
They're right.
Hold on.
You all right.
This shit will turn.
I'll say it.
Going somewhere else, okay?
Because that's sensitive.
That shit ain't funny.
Yeah, no, it's true.
When we get male Instacard drivers, it's instant rage.
Instant frustration.
I promise you all, it's a video on my phone right now with me going to the supermarket,
looking out for out, finding my Instacard guy and taking my shit from him.
I promise you.
I had the video.
And I posted it, but I posted it too fast,
and the address was on it, so I had to take it down.
But I promised you it was funny as shit.
And he just in the aisle, lost this shit,
in the fucking silverware, plastic, looming for you,
looking for asparagus.
I'm like, dog, what the fuck are you down here for us?
No paper tiles on the list.
And I'm like, I'm demona.
It's me.
It's like, hi.
You're doing a bad job, sir.
Horrible, bro.
He was there for two fucking hours.
I had 10 things.
Y'all suck at the supermarket.
We do.
Why?
You know it's big signs in the sky
That tells you where the stuff is
Man, that should take too long
Like, all right, this look like it
It's close enough here
You know, they replacements be ridiculous
Look at this replacement
I order, I always keep it moff
I ordered gummy bears
And they were out of them
Look, let me
Look what he replaced it
A macchiallo
Hot
That's really all it is
I'm not even joking
I ordered fucking
Albanyes gummy bears
And he replaced it
With a Starbucks macchiato
I promise you
That's how it is
They were the same price.
When I asked them why he did, he said,
when they both 379, and they both got sugar in it.
Damn.
I think it made an executive decision.
That is real.
That is real.
But if I had seen them in person,
you're to rage a little.
Oh, my God.
I wanted to beat the dog shit out.
That is real.
Well, it was the same price.
He said, they both $3.79 in sugar.
Yeah, like, what's your problem?
That's crazy.
Oh, my God.
I loved them.
I keep it simple.
I just get waters and heavy shit
that I don't want to carry, so.
And I'm sure women is the girl.
ladies make mistakes, but it's not to the volume of that shit.
My last Instagram guy had his wife with him.
So they nailed that shit.
I don't play that.
Don't pull up as a couple.
They like to pull up as a couple.
They like to pull up as a couple.
It was a car driver.
You know he'd be coupled up.
No, I wouldn't.
Hopefully she should be getting an old bag.
We both can't be in here.
Getting an Instacart bag.
Go.
Litter Uber or something.
I don't like when they pull up as a couple.
It's weird.
Even though I understand it, you know, broke unity.
But.
What?
Yo.
I do.
I get it.
Holy shit.
Go, dog.
I'm in pain, you.
But I don't like that shit.
His only buddy because it's true.
I used to deliver pizzas with a dick before.
There was some broke-ass judy.
I used to be like, go off.
Then say hello.
That's why you got $3 last time.
Start saying hello, good night.
He was coaching him?
Fuck you're right.
This motherfucker had no social skills hitting.
Not going to door.
a piece of walker. I'll be like, tell that motherfucker have a good day.
I'm living pieces with a nigga. I'm not playing.
I can't stop telling my business up here.
Yo, if you're listening to this broadcast as an adult and your child is still sleeping,
go check on that little motherfucker.
I mean, maybe we didn't search the candy as great as we don't show.
Hey, maybe they did sneak that fentanyl in the sneakers.
I promise y'all the comments and, like, feedback when we,
did talk about that before it was like where are y'all from
that doesn't happen I'm like it's to be on the
news to check the candy
that's one of them urban legends we got to alter the problem in America
it probably is a herbal legend honestly it probably
I'm curious as it ever
happened where somebody was poisoned from Halloween
that's a good question it had to happen once
this is America everybody
tell that story I didn't even met nobody that got
razor blade in their candy and there been nobody who had
no drugs and they snickers
you remember you used to hear at the gas station they put needles on the
on the handle oh yeah it's all
bullshit yeah it's just a scary
You flash a light, somebody going to kill you.
You know what probably has happened?
Some dummy gave a kid an edible or a shroom by mistake.
Oh, I'm sure that happens.
That's my fear right.
And I have been around for, I'm letting you get the shit off,
but I've been around for people putting shit in the candy.
Okay, see?
And it popping up on the news for multiple years.
There you go.
Like, I just don't have that much trust in the community.
I don't have that much trust in the news.
We just be right.
No, that too.
Fear, that part.
That part.
That too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know my neighbors.
It ain't like back in the day where your mama used to rely on your next door neighbor to beat you if you was doing something bad.
This ain't them days no more.
No.
The neighbor now is racist and got a bullet shotgun hole in the door for when you act up.
And the Trump sign.
Go ahead and play.
And they're raising racist kids.
You want to give them a twizzler.
Nope.
I wish I would give one of you racist little white bastards to a twizzler.
I think worse than the razor blaze is when you used to get like Bible verses or pencils or some bullshit like that.
That's the real.
That's the real.
I got kids.
Real bad.
It's hell,
bro.
Raisins.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The box of raisins still.
That's what happens.
I got like a popcorn ball one time.
What I'm going to do with this shit?
That's the weirdo that thinks, I'm going to give them something that's better than candy.
Just for the kids to throw that shit in the dryway.
What?
What?
What?
What kind of fruit?
I was that person.
You have fruit.
Yeah.
What kind of fruit?
No, I understand.
I didn't start with the fruit.
In fact, it was the day that they stole my Benihana.
I was a little bitter
Revenge
But also they
Took it out on the kids
They took them in the
I had bags of candy
And at some point
I ran out of candy
And so if 30 kids
is there
And you got 20 pieces of candy
You can either close the door
On the last tent
Or give them a grape
I didn't give them a
Manderin
That's the good kids
Love Clementines
Fair
Not on Halloween they don't
No you don't
Because they threw
Because they're all in my window
Close for your eyes
What?
I had like six Clementines
Marks in my window
Fuck them kids
Don't know
I'll learn something new about work every, every pot.
The tough part sometimes is just answering the door.
Like one year I was feeling like,
oh, you know what, I'm into this, man.
You know, the kids, they do a barram, ding-dong.
Go get that shit, Nick.
By the time, you make it right back up to the door again.
Three flights and steps to your bed, ding-dawn.
It's like, oh, shit.
They did that for four hours straight.
And then one year, I bought some candy for these little motherfuckers.
And I put it out there.
And I was opening the door.
them. But when they was taking the candy,
they would be excited while I had the door open.
So now you've got to stand there and fake smile.
Of course. Like you like it. Like you happy.
What are you supposed to be?
Yeah, exactly. That shit is so trash, yo.
That shit is trash.
You don't leave a big ass bowl and say take one.
Yeah.
On a note.
Yeah. I don't even leave a note, man. I don't even leave a note. I put a big
ass, the big bowl filled with candy.
Do what y'all going to do.
I haven't participated in this level of.
Like, and I, and I, and I, and I,
In our community, like, they don't get greedy with it because they're getting candy from everywhere.
Rund did it one year.
She was just out there with white claws and shit.
White claws?
Yo.
Not handing out the white claws.
Oh, I was saying, damn.
Yo, so they do that shit, though.
They'll have, if you're walking around with your kids, they're like for the adults,
yo, you want a beer?
You want this?
That's like.
Oh, that's a good neighborhood.
Like, all right, cool.
We're getting lit.
Walking around.
I love that.
That's a good neighborhood.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's how I know that we shouldn't be trick-treating now.
because they only going with their parents.
Like, I ain't, no kids was just traveling in kid crews like that.
They only going with parents now because they know that one of these little weirdo houses
to kidnap you like you was the local pit bull and never give you back.
Yo, remember when the bigger kids would fuck you up and take your bag?
Because we would just be outside.
Wouldn't be no adults, really.
The adults came out of the candy.
The kids were traveling in packs.
You should have at risk Halloween.
Oh, my gosh.
The bigger kids would take a kid.
Where you get stabbed when you could?
Every week we learned something about Mona.
I just remember being really excited
because whatever I was doing it,
I was doing it on my own.
So just, you know, it was fun.
No, that's dope.
I can't wait to hear y'all next month.
The story is about how y'all catch the turkey
at the drive.
Hey, yo, what type of part do we have in, an honest one or not?
Yeah.
Fuck it, let's go.
Thanksgiving is canceled.
One of my business people,
The other day suggested I do a turkey drive.
But last time I did a turkey drive was 25 years ago.
Okay.
It was in the projects and I was on the back of a pickup truck throwing turkeys at niggas with bodies.
I'm like, now, you should have a turkey.
You had killed a few motherfuckers.
But all right, fine.
But apparently they say it don't go like that.
now?
No.
No.
We should do a JVP turkey truck.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm going to do a drive.
But I'm not going out there.
No, you got a pop-ball.
But if we do a drive where?
On the Zoom?
No, you got to be there.
Would it be a Jersey?
Yes.
What about North Philly?
That's far.
That's Jersey.
Okay.
No.
We got, we're doing something in Philly.
Y'all got bigger fish to fry.
You got to clean that wet block.
first.
I would do a turkey drive if it's
the new turkey drive.
What is the new turkey drive, Joe?
What do they do now? It's still pickup trucks throwing turkeys.
That's what you're doing. No, that's how you do it no more.
Oh, how is it now? Now you have it at a spot.
They come in, they get their turkey, and you do
canned goods, all that type of shit. And they leave.
Yeah. And you don't have to be there now.
No, you still got to be there, bro.
That's not what my people said. Well, and it was another point, too.
You don't got to be there if you paying for everything.
No, let's do a homeless drive.
Let's do it like...
Oh, never that.
No, listen.
Can you not house?
Sorry.
We don't do that one.
Mark, I'm not the philanthropist that you are.
Listen, listen, it's easy.
I used to do in Philly all the time.
This is what you do.
You just, on Thanksgiving day, from like 9 a.m. to like noon.
Before we all getting into our days, we have hot food for them.
Okay.
Turkey, some macaroni, green, all the shit.
You can't do that in Jersey no more.
Wow.
Is it illegal?
It's illegal.
To give out hot food.
Because they put fentanyl until.
In the mac of cheese.
No, they always fuck with the people giving stuff out.
That's true.
That's what we always did.
And then people came to, home people came to ate, they left,
give them a bag to go, some blankets, some socks.
What we used to do, me and my mom's do this on Christmas mornings,
we will go down to Penn Station.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
Prepare, like, let's say 50 bags.
Just pull up and just hand the back, but the back blanket, socks,
toiletries, that type of shit.
That's not hot.
It's not hot.
You can't give no food.
Oh.
Unless it's all packaged.
You can't give out first food.
I don't like Penn Station.
That's just scared.
PlayStation scared of shit out of me.
No, I, homeless people scared.
That's the part of Penn Station.
Ain't the Starbucks that scare me.
This a nigga defecating in front of it.
Are there still homeless people by Penn Station?
I'm sure.
It is my least in a waste of the world.
Both of them.
He's inside the river.
Yeah.
Homeless people move around frees.
They don't stay in.
same spot. Yeah, but sometimes they do.
Penn Station, they ain't left. Yeah, they're down there.
That overpass provides a little bit of shelter.
I'm talking about Norc Penn Station. I don't know.
Sometimes I'm North Penn Station, I take the 5 am. train to D.C. a lot, and it'd be crazy.
And it'd be going to block up Route 21.
It's like a big grass area over there.
Oh, I know. My wife used to live around the corner.
They'd be out there with tents and shit in the grass.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't like that place.
Listen, we're praying for anybody that is homeless.
Yes, that is in needs, especially during the holidays.
We're praying for you if your mental health is not right.
We're praying for you if you've been affected
or have family that's been affected by Hurricane Melissa.
We're praying for you.
For sure.
Question for y'all.
When black people say, I'm praying for you, is that the prayer?
99% of the time.
I wouldn't say black people limited to black people.
I think that's people, period.
People just got used to saying, I'm praying for you
and they don't take the time to pray.
Do you ever actually go home and pray for people?
Yeah, I pray to go home.
We say thoughts and prayers up here.
And that be it.
That was it.
That was the thought and the prayer.
Start in the prayer.
Together, one word.
Okay.
If you hold your hands like this while you say it.
I for sure.
First of all, I rarely say, oh, I'm praying for you.
But if, like, I will pray for people.
I pray for people.
How long is y'all prayers when y'all go to bed?
Do y'all say prayers?
No.
I do not every day, but.
I pray when, no, no, I don't say prayers before going to bed.
I have certain times when I pray.
Like, when the cop, pull up.
Not right now, God.
Stuff like that.
Oh, when you don't have your white face on?
Yeah, I don't have it.
Can't cold switch that one.
All right, so you don't pray before bed.
Mark don't pray before bed.
Mona?
No.
You don't.
You don't.
She tried to fake like.
I don't know.
I didn't get the perfect.
Five times a day.
These niggas, Islam is perfect.
Muslims are people.
I'm supposed to pray five times a day.
Last prayer is called Isha.
And I've skipped it for a little bit.
Nice mind your business.
Don't skip it.
I'm out.
I'm out.
I'm out of Skippy.
I shouldn't.
I should.
Parks, you pray before bed?
Not every day, but sometimes, yeah.
Oh, she's, dicks.
What is?
The pray before bed, I don't even get it.
It's like, please God.
Now I lay me down to sleep.
I want to do, like, the movies.
Thank God I woke up.
Thank God I made it to bed.
Thank God in case I don't wake up again.
Here are the people that, I mean, oh, y'all are.
I talk the guy all that.
Whoa, okay, never mind.
All right.
Do you pray before bed?
Huh?
Do you pray before being?
Yes.
Every day?
Yeah.
You get on your knees on the side of the bed?
For the most part.
Do you get on your knees on the side of the bit?
Yeah, you do.
Yeah, he do.
Yes, you do.
No.
For prayer, though.
How does it work?
Oh, shit.
How do you know if it's getting through?
I hate it, dear.
Yes, I pray for the most part before, and I'm in bed.
I love that.
And you just do this?
No, I don't.
I'm just trying to, I'm trying to picture you.
You were raised to pray before being in a sooner.
Word.
No, I believe in him.
I just, it seemed like that's like a situation.
If you're not doing any type of ritual with it,
you're just like thinking good thoughts.
Yeah, he's just talking to himself.
Exactly.
You're talking to guys.
Y'all is sick.
No, that's good.
Listen, I'm no longer discussing this with y'all.
And I damn shit don't talk to Corey about.
You can't talk to him about nothing.
Just know, I pray for him too.
He needed the most.
That's why he alive still.
He thinks he's just running on his atheist beliefs.
No, nigga.
Covered in the blood.
That's me.
Yo, check for him too.
Now, that's my man.
Hold him down.
Hold him down.
He don't know.
He don't know.
I love him.
He don't know.
Guide him.
Please give him direction and a heart.
Give him some feelings.
A girlfriend.
Give him a warm vagina before he fucking passes on.
Please, something.
Yeah, I pray for you.
It's working.
I pray for people.
Yeah.
It's working.
He's warming up.
Yeah.
No, he warmed up.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
He got a new phone, man.
That didn't come just by itself.
Exactly.
You know I'd be shower on the pod days.
Yo, thank you.
That's the best thing to do it.
My wife told me that shit, too.
She'd be like, you know it's a pod day.
You one guy texted you to remind you.
Am I lied you on this?
What was up?
I got you.
You got to remind you to?
That shit was like a commercial.
Your shit went from.
Oh shit.
I thought you had those socks.
Yeah.
Oh shit.
Joe don't like socks.
I think he had two socks.
You all are bullshit today.
Damn.
Yeah, it's a holiday.
Yeah.
He don't give a fuck.
What's going on?
I don't know if it's a holiday.
It's something.
It's enough.
It's a something day.
You don't give a fuck.
Hey, all right.
That's better.
I meant to shout out the blue note the other day.
What's the name put on an amazing show, yo?
Robert Glasper.
Robert Glassman.
Oh, man.
It was, they called it Rob Tober.
He had all these different artists.
last Friday
what's his name
came through,
Balow came through
Oh, fine
Oh, I like Bilal
it.
It was an amazing
performance.
He killed it
the artist
The place was packed
and then
Comments slid through
with Jennifer Hudson
Oh shit
And they both took the stage
And performed
Oh,
and put on
And so did
Thundercat
And yeah, it just turned out
to be like
one of the amazing
performance
A shout of Robert
Glasper
and everybody
The Blue Note, man
We got to all do
an out
into one of them spots
man
I agree
Invite us
Yeah,
Lorde
You're on the Blue Note
Nick
You're on the phone
Yo, going here, would y'all like
I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna do that.
That's kind of you.
Yeah, I saw the picture you backstage.
See you, man.
I was like, okay, okay.
Mark, a little calming.
I like all these guys.
You don't go outside, though.
I go to the blue note for musicians.
Okay.
Oh, now I know that.
I don't know your rules.
I assume you don't go out unless you have to
and then you leave about 60%
through a show.
No, I go out for live music.
depending on what's going on.
And Robert Glassburg?
I'll say less.
I live.
Yeah, definitely.
All right, where do you find people who want to start today?
Anywhere in the world, y'all want to start, I'm down.
Let's fucking, let's fucking go.
Let's fucking do it.
Did you, I, said, I had this on.
This is it, right?
No, that's killer clowns from outer space.
Okay, go ahead.
I had an it conversation.
What is it, though?
I watched, because I rarely watched television.
I watched that something called Drury City.
I guess it's like the start of the show where it started from.
Yeah, because that shit off.
I cut that shit off
You did?
Oh, it sucked to you
To me
I was just totally confused by it
I don't know
I wanted to know
Did y'all watch it
Have y'all watched it?
It was bad acting
Bad writing everything
I had to cut that shit off
But if you enjoy it
By all means
It was just gory
I can't say I enjoy it
It just freaked me to fuck out
It's only one episode though
As it came out
Right
That's the beginning
Yeah
It couldn't suck that bad
Because it definitely
It definitely made me
Curious about episode too
Because I couldn't
Figure out
How it had anything to do
What the fuck they were doing
especially with the, like with the car seeded and all that.
That opening scene was.
It was crazy.
Yeah, none of y'all saw it?
No, I haven't been heard of it.
Like, watch it.
Or dope.
Yeah, maybe not.
I like shit, like, you know, make me laugh.
Oh, no, yeah, it's scary.
I'm cool.
Technically, the origin of it where he comes from.
That's the whole thing.
That should sound like an ad, man.
At the top of the pod, too.
Yeah, right.
I mean, I'm not letting a cook.
Say, it's with the new balance.
Right.
They slide it in real stuff.
Hello.
I left more runway today because I know you like to talk.
We're giving it to you today.
No, seriously.
Seriously.
I want to hear you, goddamn it.
But shut the fuck up on the front.
On the front, though, let's, you know what I mean?
Do y'all want to do music?
Yes, because I'm fucking mad at you.
Oh, this is hilarious.
I wake up about 5 a.m., that's when I, you know, I can listen to music, especially new music before the family wakes up.
Right.
And I've been waiting for the big...
You all make mad at you.
I hear you life sounds so great.
I got to check my new music.
Get my little bit of peace in.
But I feel you.
I feel you.
Yeah, because you know, it's big.
I'm listening to Bigger.
I can't listen to Bigger 5A and with nobody else up.
And while you're partnered, like, it feels weird explaining that, you know, I'm listening
to new music.
Right.
Like, that feels like a weird thing to have to, I'm allot in time to listen to new music.
I'm doing something by myself.
I'm doing something without you, yo.
I'm doing something that I enjoy more than you.
You.
We got a nice rhythm in my house.
And that's the problem.
She goes to read her books.
I go in the basement and watch football or listen to music or both.
That's the fucking man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He just do it.
I'm talking to sports.
Listen, man.
Get a man cave, man.
It's important.
Shit, man.
And find a hobby for them.
Or encourage them to have.
So mine is just...
She found her hobby on her own.
No, that's very smart.
Right now I just let her sleep at 5 a.m.
I go downstairs.
My son sleeps so he decides to wake up and terrorize me.
I went into the basement, pulled up the big L album.
I'm excited,
except I'm waiting for the big album.
Obviously, he's a legend.
I love him.
And I see the track list.
I see Hove.
I see Knows,
which we already heard, of course.
You know what I'm seeing?
Method Man.
Method man, who's verse was crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's one, uh, Joey badass.
Yeah.
But I don't listen to none of them first because my man is listed.
It says Joe Button and Big El got a song together.
Yeah.
They do.
It did.
They do.
It did.
I skip past Hove.
I skip past Noz.
I skip past Joey.
You did the right thing.
You did the right thing.
Went straight.
to Joe Butt
And it's this nigga doing what he do.
And I hear this nigga talk every Tuesday and Friday.
I don't hear this fucking put on a track for that shit.
You was just pontificating.
Not one bar, not one verse.
Shit ain't rhyme.
What the fuck?
Yeah.
Shout to the Big Al Project.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
I did the same thing on Connie Diamond's album.
I did the same thing on a few of these albums.
Man, they was advertising it as features.
And you were listed as one of the features.
You thought that I would have a live verse out there and nobody, nobody here, no?
I thought it was possible that you had a verse from 10, 15 years ago that nobody knew.
Yeah, that you were sitting on.
Oh, you thought it was an old verse.
I knew you didn't go in the booth and rap nothing.
Oh, old verse.
But I thought it was a classic verse maybe that was unreleased.
Ah, that big out he got his hands on.
Yeah, exactly.
Or that you just decided, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I thought.
A few people did hit me like, yo, is this a new verse?
A bunch of people.
A couple people hit me that expressed their disappointment when they found out what it was.
But I mean, that's what I want to.
how them way.
I know
I know niggas
was tight.
Yeah.
And the way
it was promoted.
Like,
like I saw blogs
pushing it.
Yo,
Big El new album
has features
from Jay Z
and Joe Button.
I ain't see
nobody else names.
Right.
You said it's a bunch
other people listed up there.
I think they get more sad
when they hit me
and they see my reaction.
My reaction is like,
yo,
L.
Amato dog.
Did you really believe
I was going to stop
what I'm doing right now
and go rap?
Sorry.
But I do like
the Big Al project.
Me too, man.
They did a really good job.
It's hard to do posthumous albums at any point.
And especially with L, there wasn't like a, he was in the tape era.
There wasn't just like a million freestyles on someone's hard drive, like, or half done songs or whatever.
So they did a really good job of pulling together stuff that some stuff is new.
Some stuff is kind of existed in the underground YouTube world for years.
I'm even glad that there's a home for that.
Yeah, me too.
Me too.
The whole second half of the album really is that.
Yeah.
It's the freestyle, radio freestyle.
but touched up and, you know, with the AI.
They were massive a lot of it, right?
Yeah, well, they got AI now.
You can separate the vocals a little bit more than you ever could
so you can actually make it sound pretty good.
And they did a really good job with that.
One other thing I like about this project is when it was first announced,
the family had went up.
One, I like that the family was involved.
Yeah, for sure.
The family went up and was like, hey, fans,
let us know what records you want to hear
because we want y'all to feel like y'all have been a part of this creative process as well.
That's fine.
So now we're picking the favorites that, okay, y'all wanted that record,
y'all wanted that one.
That's cool.
We'll go back, get that, clean it up, and put on a project.
Yeah.
But like y'all said, everybody that featured, yeah.
That Mac Miller record is fired.
That Mac Miller got busy on it.
That's another one.
I saw a lot of people upset about that.
Upset?
Upset.
Why?
Because they were just like, I guess the pairing.
I heard people say it was a little too, like, warm and fuzzy.
Like, it wasn't like the vibe they wanted from a big album.
They said his verse was, I like the verse.
I thought he'd kill it.
I just liked the verse.
The track was definitely different than the rest of the album.
Yeah, for sure.
for sure but I was good with it
I wasn't at it
I was good with it I
the 7 minute freestyle again
like Hove is Hove and it's good
I like hearing classic verses from artists I respect
to remember how Hove rapped 20 years ago
25 years ago I like that
the sound of it again they remastered some of the stuff it didn't sound
the way I like I like the old
mixtape sound vibe a little bit
so some of it I didn't I thought it was overproduced a little bit
on the album but in general
That's reasonable
Demoitis yeah but it was great
all that shit made me feel like I was on a
hall on block in 96 yeah yeah
Yeah, yeah.
Running again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Got her McGruff on there and shit.
Yeah, it felt good.
It felt good.
Got showbiz on there.
Shout to show.
Yeah.
Lord Finesse did a beat on there.
I don't remember what the record is, but shout to the whole digging.
I would have liked to hear a little bit more digging production, but I understand how it goes.
And shout to Royce, who executive produced.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
On this project.
Mike around.
Of course.
But yeah, no, the big old shit is hard.
And shout to your button on that, motherfucker.
You did a great job.
You did a great job.
You did a great job.
You really tied the album together.
You brought it home, you know.
Recipes Bigel.
Shout to Mass Appeal as always.
It's killing it.
They have.
Great job.
Mass Appeal's doing such a great job.
I'm looking forward to just anything Mass Appeal.
That's it.
They're doing amazing stuff.
This is Halloween.
The next one is the Nause and Prima album, right?
Yep.
Yeah, I believe so.
I believe so.
That I'm really excited about.
Yeah, me too.
It's Halloween.
Halloween Havoc Six.
You know it.
Banks.
And I feel like.
an idiot. I had no idea.
Yeah, when I saw this one, he was like, wait, what?
I'm like, yeah.
This would have been my...
The goal to? Yeah. I had no idea that this was dropping it all.
Yeah, I had the Bigel record for a couple of weeks now.
I went right to Banks.
Yeah, man. 16 tracks, man. Yeah.
There's some fire on it too.
The Six of Swords.
I bought it, but I ain't listened to it yet, so I'm excited to get to it.
I didn't get to fully listen. I got three tracks in this morning.
I'm about halfway through that.
Well, I want something from it. Somebody give me something.
All right, this is, uh, eat what you...
Eat what you kills on a much.
What you get here.
Be sounds crazy.
Toad queens, what up?
Fitness miracles don't exist like my tall pitches.
This is small pickings.
You drop in your reaction with all good fingers.
The games extort niggas.
I've seen movies and sports.
Fuck with us.
Little stitches.
Open these words to influence you want before decisions.
For everyone merges, there'll be some more collisions and put small decisions.
When you're in the game, there's no prize.
No prize.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I can't wait to listen to this whole shit.
I didn't even know it came out.
Shout to Lloyd Banks, man.
Our guy.
Our guy, friend to the show.
For sure.
Yeah, I can't wait to get to that.
And I'm mad that I didn't know that was out.
Yeah, I just want to finish the rest of it.
Heels have eyes three.
I'm sorry, good.
No, go ahead.
Heels have eyes three.
What's that gun, y'all?
Oh, yeah.
Gun drop too.
Also kind of a surprise drop.
Didn't know what was coming.
I'd listen.
I skimed through on the way into work today.
Does anything stand out?
It sounded great.
The Stoga record was my favorite off.
Rip, Westside Gun
just makes quality albums
over and over and over again.
I say so consistency, so consistently.
Yeah, and the pace of it. Yeah, the pace.
I was like, I feel like we just drop something.
Is this the gun that I like or no?
Maybe less than the last one.
Okay.
But it's still good.
It's fire.
It's fire. Everything I heard.
I don't let us do it quickly, but it was good, what I like so far.
I'm speaking to ISIS tastes.
What's your gun taste?
Pause.
I like when he approaches the track seriously.
got you
that's the best way to put it
okay
he's rapping on there
it's just not as much
like song
finished song
format before like when he's just
ad libby
and not that
no it's not that
he's rapping on there
he's rapping on it
and always great
production
always great production
we got we got
premium ran
the reinvention
big jersey
let's go
so happy for them
me too
I love where Rand is at
just
in hip hop.
I love the people that in hip hop
that seem to just be comfortable
with themselves.
Iran is chilling.
Rand is eating soup and celery.
He's in the gym.
He's working out.
He's on an island.
He's running track.
He's shred up,
cut up, making music.
Don't want to go TikTok with you niggas.
Don't want to go sit in front of people
that don't understand what's going on.
And to hear a rapper of that
caliber over production of this caliber is a treat for music lovers all over the world.
I am blessed to still remember my reaction the very first time we unearthed ransom in Jersey
City in 90, whatever that. Well, oh, 1, 2000. I don't remember the fucking year. But we were
blown away. So shout out to the fans that are just now getting experienced at in 2025.
Shout out to Prine, four decades, five decades of legend.
Word.
Of legend.
I am blessed and honored to know you.
I am so honored to know some of you people, man.
That ass.
I can't lie.
I can't lie.
We don't say it enough.
We don't say it enough.
That is a fact.
And these are two of those brothers for me.
And it's hard.
It's hard.
And bringing back rap radar was fired too.
Happy to be a part of that.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Getting to see BDOT look all uncomfortable for a second.
Bidon Elliott looked like they should talk
But that's why I fuck with Rand
Bid on Elliot looked like they had just gotten together
To talk to Rand
But hadn't talked to each other
That was fire
And they both so great at journalism
I know it's not a word
So it is now
They are so great at journalism
Yeah
They're good
They're really good
Yeah no they're great
Great job. Great job. Yeah, give me something.
Let's go.
You might get robbed tonight, vibes.
Wow!
Yeah, they say time waits for no man.
Even a broken clock is right two times a day, so bet I replace your broke hands.
They ain't got to watch still write two times a day. Let me validate. There's no chance.
In this lifetime, if any man mortal struggle or write rhymes against his force, I cut off his lifeline.
Wanna be icon who bombs on stage while I'm blowing up every step I take because they're looking like my
My name is my pray God sends me the right sign when it's dark a roach going scatter as the light shine
It's deep in their anatomy come when the work's done but discipline is a bridge between dreams and reality
Y'Rap has never seen no murder scene with a casualty
From a wicked place where murder seen formality nervous fiends who casually step over the body to
Cog Truv's like they never heard the screams of agony agony
That's a cut above.
The reinvention's out now.
Shout to Prime.
I hope that this pace of these short album EPs or whatever you want to do continues.
I love just...
Nah, they found a good bop on there.
Short, concise, to the point.
Like, don't you know?
It's just drag shit.
And I can double back at any time.
Yeah, exactly.
That's why I noticed that the short album joints,
niggies is coming right back.
Yep.
I like that.
I love it.
Offset, another surprise project for me.
know it came out either.
I had no idea.
Listen, maybe that's just me at 45 now.
Maybe I should just stop coming in here and say, oh, I ain't no idea you.
Yeah, maybe I just don't know no more who's dropping.
How we find out now?
Like, dog, every week I hit that new music latest, what's coming.
Yo, I'm checking dates on albums that are in.
So I try to know.
I go to like me too.
But some of this shit don't be listed, yo.
Like that offset project wasn't listed.
Yeah, that definitely wasn't listed.
And that shit dropped at midnight.
I just happened to be up by open.
I said, wait, offset snuck him.
I'm thinking of EP, something three, you know, something.
It is shorter than the last project, but it's still full-length.
And I was just like, oh, shit, he dropped a full-link project.
Oh, let me run it.
I like it haunted by fame.
Yeah, it's only 25 minutes long.
I haven't heard any of it.
Yeah, but let's get to the tea.
Let's get to the tea, though.
What's the tea?
Listen, we're still here to be, well, at least with me.
I'll speak for me.
I'm still here to be a chatty patty.
I see some, I see some of the talk out there.
You niggers is on couches, gossiping like bitches.
I agree sometimes.
I agree.
Y'all ain't saying nothing wrong.
Niggas is sitting up there.
Shat and shit.
But these niggas are given to you.
So here we go.
Offset.
And what I'm sure he didn't feel like saying on his album,
he said on this mix tape like project,
I'll ask you all if y'all believe him in a second.
Here we go.
No sweat, right?
No sweat.
You ain't happy.
I know I had worked.
How you married is thinking of bird.
Oh, shit.
That's it
That's what you get
That's what you get
I'll give it to you one more time
It's fast
Oops
How the fuck you need Jordan for Rodman
You're a fool of you think that I'm hurt
You ain't happy I know I had word
How you married is still giving bird
Gets a hell bitch you're going on berserk
He said how you leave in Jordan for Rodman
Yep
How are you leaving Joe
So he calling him kinky freaky
Kinky freaky
I mean
Perhaps.
I guess that's what he was.
Dennis Robin was a very free man.
And some might call that kinky freaky.
Okay.
I don't know.
I saw people giving the flack like,
oh, we're tired of hearing it or whatever.
But me, I'm somebody that I appreciate
where artists go through shit
and put it in their art.
I kind of hate the whole, like,
new way we do shit
when people just talk shit and do interviews
and tweet shit.
I feel like artists are supposed to respond with songs.
You know what I mean?
So, of course, it's like,
Cardi said a lot.
her album and she also has been real open about things. I just saw her recently talk about,
I don't know where she was, but she was speaking about why they're really not divorced and why
she feels like he's holding it up or whatever. It's like, that's their personal business.
He'd get to say something back. People kill me when it's like, you can't say anything back.
That nigga can say what the fuck. He wasn't. He's supposed to say it like that. I think he could
have went harder. I don't know why he went so light. Well, that's still, because as a man, you can't
do it. As a man, I totally get him going light. He really, he's like he's like he didn't even.
want to do that.
Tell me why.
When he came up here, he basically said,
yo, as a guy, there's
just certain shit that's flawed.
It's certain shit that's not G-Cold.
It's certain shit that's not keeping the people.
No matter what she does.
She could say everything in the world.
Me as a guy, I cannot do it.
He said that.
I think some men out there understand that.
The real men understand that
because these niggis today
will argue to go right there with you.
I ain't with that, too, by the way.
Are you in fist fight?
Yeah, all of it's nasty
To respond
In that case your hands
In bisexual
I feel like
Like I do totally get there
When you explain it that way
But for me
That would be
Leaving him out of it
Why is he robbing then
Nick ain't do nothing to you
You just married
Yeah, oh that
So you ill
Maybe
But you ill
But you ill
That's not me and sure
I never
I was so focused
On the Jordan part
That I didn't get to
I didn't go to
Why might
he'd be saying Rodman.
When you say Jordan, to me, you're just saying,
I'm the best over no matter who you are.
You fucking with this.
He said tipping.
Right.
He said Robin for a reason.
But that's fly.
I mean, the rumors are out there.
I ain't going to say him because I ain't got no proof of none of that shit
in front of my business.
And I'm against.
And I'm against.
Don't do that.
I'm against pulling people out of the closet.
Correct.
I'm against that.
You with that?
I don't, first of all, I don't,
if I'm addressing rumors that I heard,
it has nothing to do what he really is.
That's number one.
So it's like, that's not pulling nobody out the closet saying if somebody said something about it.
No, no.
Too much part?
Pulling people out the closet part.
Got it.
Yeah.
But just, that's my personal opinion.
I feel like what he said is true and what you're saying makes sense.
But the real version of that would definitely be not throwing a jab in him.
And I took that as a jab.
Well, he's throwing, and that's the other part.
Because has he said anything?
All said keeps trying to act like I'm not hurt and I'm not bothered.
Yes, you are, dog.
It's okay.
It's on that.
Like, even in there, you all, you think I'm hurt, but I'm not.
Yeah, you are.
True.
You are.
Everything you have been doing is showing a man that's hurt or bothered and trying to act like I'm not.
Like you're going so far to try to act like, I don't really get a fuck what you're doing.
But you're watching everything.
When dude have a bad game, you're posting about it.
Like you're doing a lot of hurt shit that we can see it.
But then you'll sit down and say, oh, I ain't hurt.
I'm keeping it play.
I'm keeping the pee.
No, you're not.
I want to offer pushback on that.
Go ahead.
I think I think I'm on the other side of it.
that.
Today, I think I believe him.
Like, with this project, with him saying it today,
I've echoed your sentiments on his album when it came out.
And I was like, what about this?
What about his antics on the internet?
You're, I don't think they, I don't really think he's showing out.
I didn't say show out.
If you don't care, you don't care.
You can't sit here and say, I don't care and show you that I care.
There's no way you don't care and you post him losing the game.
Unless you post them losing the game prior to this happening.
post him losing the game, I mean, he
lose the game, and then you go make a little slick comment
on your Instagram right after him losing the game. You know
what you're doing. You know what they're going to do. You know,
the coverage is going to get. Why do you care if he has zero
catches for, whatever? Why do you care about his stat line?
You're right. Why are you even watching, you sound like a chick.
That's what chicks do. That is exactly what women do,
bro. I'm not letting, no, no, no. They start
that Instagram, taking a shot at the other girl type of shit. That's what
women do. Men don't do that. Men don't go at the other
where's the other guy?
I can have a problem with Homeboy.
Like, I'm,
I want to agree with y'all if I'm just pardoned,
but I do understand him.
I can have a problem with Duke
separate from whatever me
and my very still wife are going through,
especially if the rumors are true
of you sleeping with my wife
and then I had a baby in there
and then you had a baby.
There's a lot,
there's a lot of reasons why
if he feel like posting
and Steph going scoreless in a game.
You want every song saying,
I got a nigga more handsome than you
that's better than you, that's dope than you.
Oh, I'm going to small and tiny.
You're having to blast.
As women do.
Yeah, but so if a nigga get out of character,
because I'll agree with you, don't say nothing.
But if a nigga get out of character once or twice,
I'm not going to put all the sauce on,
oh, you care, you care, you care.
Nigel, that's my wife.
We're going to.
We're acting.
We might have a reason to it.
We're actively going through a divorce.
You don't know what I'm dealing with behind the scenes.
That's what I'm dealing with with these kids.
You don't know how she's responding to me in real life.
Like if I slipped up online once or twice, don't put it all on.
I believe him when he says, yo, I ain't as hurt as y'all think.
There's been times where I've gone through a breakup with public darlings because women play public darling games better than you.
Women care about the aesthetic more than you.
So, yeah, where you, fuck?
can do some shit and the public darling lady
the whole defense say oh you motherfuck
you're cheating on her
could you lost all you lost all you lost it and never got it back
and the nigga be like yo dog I know her in real
life she's dirty as shit her trunk
dirty now the bathroom is dirty
the pussy is dirty she fucked
and let's get to that too
because I'm not saying her pussy's dirty I'm just talking to
yeah no off her also how you
handle our divorce
or breakup may indeed
make me look at you differently than I did
when you were my wife I'm not
trying to cape them. But if
we go through our shit and then you go
fuck the football player while we yada yada
yada yada I think as a guy you can
have a feeling about it. I do. Without
people being able to come to say
that's not my... No no no no no no.
That's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that's human to have that feeling
but don't now act like you don't
have that feeling. Yeah there's no I agree with I
He'd be walking around like Superman. You're
I don't give a fuck what she's doing. I'm cool. I'm cool.
But yes you do. Right. That's all I'm saying.
It's human to care. What you're saying is right.
But I feel like what you're saying,
it fits more if he stepped to him when he's seen him at the club.
It fits more if he messaged him directly.
But to throw it in a song, it gives me.
I don't think that there is any rules which you can't do.
You can't do when you hurt.
People be heard, people heard, people heard.
But y'all are held to a different standard.
In my opinion, for him to throw a jab at his athleticism in a song,
it's no way that you can then say you think I've heard I'm not.
It just doesn't match.
That's all I'm saying.
I think that it would be different to go to your point.
Right, because of the white part.
But I can see you a point.
approaching a nigga in person that way, but to throw it on a song about his
athletic to him, like that's going to hurt Cardi.
That's not, no, no, no, no.
Mona, you just started.
That fits nobody but him and his fit.
Mona, you just started saying, I love when artists put it in art.
I do.
I do.
He's artists.
So if he feel away about something that Homeboy did separate of you fucking my wife and
taking my wife, then why do you feel differently about him putting in art?
I don't feel no differently.
I just feel that he can't say I'm not hurt and do that.
Okay, so my purpose.
All right.
So my, yeah, I understand.
That's the thing I agree with you.
My response to that is I believe that, again, I said that I believe him today.
Okay.
Today upon this release.
I think there are phases to the breakup.
Absolutely.
We've all been through breakups, for sure.
That's what I'm saying.
So I think that after I hurt and ball up and cry and get over the shock of you leaving and you bought a new house and I'm in my mansion alone, oh, you fuck dude on.
Once you get over yourself.
And you can assess properly.
Sometimes you be like, all right, I get it.
Even if you fucked up.
I'm not saying that he's an angel.
Even if you fucked up.
The whole time you talking before, not this time,
but the time before we were talking to you were like,
the way you carry our breakup can make me look at you different.
Please.
Like what?
We had to break up because you're a fucking horn.
Because he was in a relationship wild.
I don't give a fuck.
How you feel I do the breakup, you fuck my op.
You fuck my cousin.
Like, you're going to judge me.
me on how we broke up when you was dogging me
we was together. I don't give a fuck.
Now I go with the mailman. But just to be
clear, they both, they allegedly
both have that story.
But when I say that, I'm not even, you fuck my op.
They both looking at each other like the Spider-Man mean.
First of all, I didn't know anything about her
fucking his op. Second of all, I feel like that
when I was around to you, bigger than Cardi and
period. When you say, oh, I'm judging
you how we broke up. If the relationship is
a breakup because she left because of you, it's like,
bro. Who gives a fuck how you're looking at me?
Yeah, come on. That's just a,
of women,
women,
I get that.
I get that.
And I agree with that.
I agree with that.
I just don't think
that he is soaking
right now.
I don't think he's soaking.
Which is not busy for?
Girl.
It ain't even a matter of soaking.
It's just like
he seems like he's,
I'm still paying attention
to your moves.
I'm still keeping up with y'all.
That's what I'm talking about.
And if you move past it,
you over it,
you don't really do those things
as much no more.
Unless.
I don't want to.
Go ahead,
I don't want it to sound like
I think that in a different world
they both would take each other back tomorrow
I do too
Let me be clear on that
I ain't trying to say like they both are moving on
I do too
I wouldn't be shocked today
I wouldn't be surprised
I wouldn't be surprised
Right
All the energy gives is they might end up back together
Nah
You know how old next
If you say no who you think wouldn't take who back
You think he would
I don't think he would
Only for me
shit
I would be checking about her.
I don't think about her.
And that's crazy.
I was thinking her, maybe she's done.
That's what I was thinking.
I thought people go back for sure.
One thing about it is I think they were really in love with each other at a point.
And it sucks watching the whole thing.
It does, especially after they built their family.
You're not old that kid got to be before.
I say, oh, they ain't getting back together.
At least six.
I'm thinking seven.
That's the first time, niggas off hit in the baby, right?
No, at seven years, you should be able to pick your kid up on a Thursday
and every other weekend without sticking your dick in a little on.
Without getting a chewy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
On the way out.
At 7, you stop pulling all the tricks of trying to get in her house to fuck.
Right.
You slow down.
Seven, you beep the horn like the nigga walk off.
Exactly.
You don't walk the dick out.
You ain't got to pee no more when you get to her house.
24 is like you and your booty shorts when you pull up.
Yeah.
Did you eat?
Yes.
Did you eat?
In the first five, six years, your baby mom or baby daddy is still trying to look like him or her in front of you.
Seven and eight.
that's when it's over
usually the feelings are like
officially like I wouldn't even
date guys with kids younger than 7 to 8 when I didn't
have kids because I knew that you probably fucking hurt
you know what I mean
that is a common thing
I would date chicks with kids
definitely not always the kids
because they had to go
it means they had to eventually
you can't leave that little four-year-old
for just a few weeks
yeah you got to do something now
god damn it man and tired
all right it's time for my
favorite part of the show
Pride Picks!
Look at the Moan.
Look at the guy.
She got it.
She got it. Stop playing with her.
Stop playing with Demona. I guess.
Go ahead, Bona. Hit your little ribbon in the sky for the
niggas out there. That's thing going looking to hollum.
They got you on Reddit, Popper tuning it
up. You know what? Oh, I seen
that. Bro. I seen it too. Listen, y'all.
Listen, y'all.
Fuck. What a?
To tune it up.
Fuck being on Reddit.
They got you already. I don't got no ass.
That's cool.
Nah, but when you.
Hold up. Hold up.
You mute up.
Don't sell yourself short.
Some of them girls out there without ass,
when y'all pop it a certain way,
y'all got enough hips to fake it.
Y'all got that little deceiving shit.
Don't stuff.
It shook.
Something was happening, baby.
I mean, I left because I was appalled.
An employee was behaving that way.
Like I said, it shook.
First of all, I don't,
I'm not in that group of women that don't have ass.
I lost my ass.
I've had an ass before, so I know the glory of having the ass.
Got locked up.
Like an accident.
Oh, wait, and we got to big up the fat bitches that got small,
so they got that excess weight down there.
That's what shaking.
Yeah.
Please.
Please.
That little flat.
Please.
And they still feel like a fat person inside, so you could just slut them out.
Like, you could just, you could go crazy on them.
That's so crazy.
No, but y'all, y'all talking about the booty shaking when they put it in there.
That's not the one that shook the table.
These niggas family.
a visit picture with me and my father
when I was in the feds. They posted that.
All the comments say,
I knew she was a stud, I told y'all.
You did look like a stud that. I can go a lot.
But this is the thing. I don't know if people
know down. In the victory? Yeah.
I was like, he was the young man. He was just like,
he was talking about the picture.
The guy that I was with his father,
he would be so upset
if his picture was on, if he knew his picture was online.
And secondly, I don't know if y'all
know, but in jail, we all have
to wear the same thing. Mom, it's okay
baby. The fuck. And the scar. It's the
Where you were it, though.
It was a key more.
I just tied it up because my clip, I lost my clip.
So it was like this in the front of me, but I had to tie it up.
Oh.
Just give it set it off.
Yeah, rural street niggas know where I'm at because that little thing in the back, that's the federal visit room.
And orange is the new black.
Whatever.
For real.
But y'all mother, y'all are like the FBI, man.
Y'all are scared of bitch.
I ain't going to lie.
That shit is spooky.
Oh, yeah.
If you don't know about this audience, that is one thing that they will do is dig up everything in the world and insert their nose in all the business that's not theirs.
That's what they'll do.
So get used to it, part of the month.
Yeah.
Heavy as the head.
Boy, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
And if you wouldn't have tucked the,
if you wouldn't have had the shirt out,
like, on some Mary Kingstown shit.
We wasn't allowed to tuck our shirts.
You had to wear them out.
You have to wear your clothes
and wear your clothes in jail, guys.
Or you could be free.
It's another reason to be free.
Like, girls didn't have been to jail.
You know what they say?
It was 50 years ago, guys.
Okay.
Well, make some noise for turning your life around.
I really didn't turn my life around.
And I'm proud of me.
You got it together, God damn.
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last night.
Welcome to the potash.
Welcome, Ish.
Thank you, sir.
Good to see you, man.
I feel like to be.
I'm cool.
Glad you dressed up, feeling festive.
Drug dealer.
Okay.
I said, he's drunk.
A nigga pulled out the Jaboz.
Thin' pulled out the Jabos.
What are you?
Pulled out the Jibbles.
You know, and massed him with the travis.
You got something going on right now.
What's going on this evening?
What's going on?
You know he outside.
Take a little sip of some tea on these things.
I'm not going outside, but no.
I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.
my three-year-old.
I understand.
That's all right.
It's cool.
I have a question for you,
and while I do want to make jokes about it,
I also want to have a serious talk about it because I'm a musician.
Were you aware that your sleeper was AI?
No.
I was driving, and that sleeper just came up on...
Okay.
Music.
Does it matter?
That's the question.
That's the question.
I don't think it matters,
because so many niggas been my DMs,
like, yo, I don't know where you found that shit.
That shit is amazing.
That's scary, actually.
Do you have that many niggas in your DMs?
Yeah, that's what you.
I'm sure you do as well.
I don't know.
It's cool, dog.
Paying their phone bill.
All right, so your answer is no.
Not really.
I know.
Yeah, I ain't know.
No, not that question.
Does it matter part?
Anybody could get duped.
While that song was on, though, I did say,
this sounds like somebody.
I know.
It sounded like
the dual part
in the beginning to me
when I first heard
it sounded like Imani.
For real, for real.
And then the girl sounded like
I just thought about yesterday.
But the girl sounded like
somebody else
that I was familiar with their voice.
See, this is why I keep
certain walls up
to make sure certain things
don't easily penetrate.
Pause.
That was crazy.
But carry on.
Nickets be beating your walls up.
Yeah.
That's fucked up.
Have you hitting on the angle?
Oh, you need the angle to hit.
To hit it hard?
I should hook to the left arm.
Oh, you need to.
Yo.
Oh, man.
I'm not.
I'm not comfortable, that.
All right, don't.
Can he do the class again?
Yeah, it's cool.
Please.
Yo.
We'll throw up.
I'm going to be.
I'm so happy with somebody else.
Usually that's me.
You're going to be the class with you.
Oh, my.
Yeah, yeah.
We got to go to the class together.
I've been there.
I'm good.
It matters to me.
Which part, though.
You have to be a lot.
first. The bar is in hell now. But for me, for me only, I'm not telling nobody else what to do.
I do think that there will be a time where everyone has to adapt to how AI is involved in music.
I'm not being a dinosaur with this.
2025, I'm not, there's enough humans.
Yes. There's enough humans. I agree.
And if I could tell, because some of these AI records, I can tell the humans that it's modeled after.
If I could tell, then I'd rather go to.
to the human. That's like me. You know, I'm a don't know. I'm a don't. So I buy music still.
Yeah. So I'm a few generations back with how I'm rebelling against the cause. This is all new territory.
But it's played that record and I ain't going to say they and lie to you. That was a really good record.
That shit was amazing. That was a really good song. So my thinking says you could have given that to a human because I know how the music business works.
Somebody had that good ass song. Somebody wrote that song. If you said you know how the music business works.
You see why they not give it.
You see why the fuck they're not giving it to nobody.
Yo, niggas been hitting me like,
yo, that shit is fine.
I had that shit on repeat in my car all day.
So why the fuck, if the music business can create that
without human beings that they don't have to pay
and they don't have to contend with,
why would they not keep putting that out?
No.
It's all about profitability.
They would keep putting it out.
I'm on the side of artists.
I'm on the side of artists rights.
I'm on the side of artists getting a coin
and being able to travel.
Remember I came in here one day and thought that four backs
was fucking AI was bullshit.
I didn't really.
think that because I know Larry Jackson.
But I was just playing around. I was like,
I need to see you perform
the record that I love.
This pandemonium that's going on,
Wu-Tang Torn,
fucking every old act, Torn,
selling out 50-cent Torn,
young boy touring. The artist
since the beginning of the time,
that's how they got their coin.
So you're taking these dope songs,
you're giving it to whoever, or you have an AI
model it after somebody that's alive.
It's just New Age robbery and New
I can't
I can't comfortably support it
I went to the niggas
Instagram page
your Instagram page
looked like a stupid ass
AI Instagram page
I can't do it
then I fucking up
then I looked at that
because I bought the song
when you played it
I down look at the cover
oh
y'all looking stupid
two stupid AI pictures
on that
like I'm not there yet
right right
and I know
I see so many people
have a problem
with what Timberlin is doing
but because Ish brought
that in this room
I thought it was like
okay now we can have a different
talk.
Yeah, we could.
Because that's why Timberlin is doing it for the people.
Yeah, I mean?
He's doing it to get ahead of this shit because he's like, it's inevitable.
Exactly.
It's too dangerous.
Like, especially when you say it sounds like Emeny.
That's exactly why it's too dangerous.
People that are not necessarily well, like super well known all over, where we could pinpoint it
because we know what he sounds like what other people can.
Imagine being somebody somewhere and you working for years and doing all this shit.
Then you hear this shit.
You know it sound like.
You know it has something to do with you.
You can't even fucking prove it.
It's too dangerous.
fuck with. I don't even want to support no AI shit.
I can't support
the human artists
and right, like
I'd be talking to these people in the street that fuck
around with this tech shit. They're like, yo, hey, Asia.
Look at Asia here.
What's up, Asia? They'd be like, yo,
you're trying your whole life, it takes
your whole life to come up with a hit song.
A hit song gonna feed a million families.
Once you catch one, all your energy
sometimes is going into, let me catch a record that's
going to feed all of our families.
the AI come and gets to be Rihanna,
Beyonce, Beethoven,
Jimmy Hendricks.
Like, no, you can't do that to the field.
You can't do that to the field.
You better get, the last two weeks or so,
niggas's been like teaching me this chat GPT shit.
I ain't know none of you.
Y'all know I ain't the techie niggas.
But the free version, they're like,
yo, you got to go buy the other one.
They said, yo, when you get the paid version,
the shit will start to learn you
and start conversing back with you
and your slang and all of that.
So if you start talking about somebody
wrote that song, somebody might not have
written that song. Chat GBT GBT
might have written that song.
But then somebody wrote that song.
Yeah, that's true.
If Chad GBT wrote the song,
then somebody wrote the song.
Some people wrote it
and they pulled from here, here, here and here.
And that shit is crazy.
And that's an issue for me.
I saw Ian the other day tweeting.
He bought the fucking robot.
Whatever, a little $20,000 robot,
humanoid helper is.
and he was super excited on the phone.
He was like, I bought you one too.
It's like, there goes that cultural different shit again.
Just popping in.
I'm with it, but I mean, I've seen enough movies to know that this nigga will kill me in my sleep.
He for sure is going to kill you.
Or go in my phone and tell my girl was in there.
Like, he ain't going to just vibe with what I want him to do.
Right.
Anyways.
This man is crazy.
He really bought that robot?
Yes.
He bought that.
He was serious.
He bought it.
I saw it on Twitter by the night and then sent me the ad.
Keep that damn thing.
from the baby.
The ad looks like...
I put my deposit there.
You did?
You did?
You're a different type of niggas.
There's nothing about me
that wants to be around a robot.
No, no, no.
That's for the purchase. You can do the subscription.
Oh, you did the layaway shit.
Yeah, I did the layaway shit.
I ain't got the 20 to just drop up there like...
Like my...
I got your big dog.
We got this Thursday part coming.
The way my brain works is some country
want to do some shit to us.
They fucking tap into the robots.
That's the first line of the attack.
Not even some country.
Yeah, well, you know, I didn't want to...
Yeah, but no.
I don't know.
I just, I don't want to be a dinosaur either.
But it's like, even with Chad GBT, when you say they learn you and they talk to you,
I remember the case that a little boy that was talking to Chad BGBC and then he committed suicide.
Because the family is saying that the chat GBC coax them.
But that's the thing about a robot that doesn't have any kind of emotion.
What happened is people are developing these dependencies on the AI assistance.
Like, and yeah, they're coaching them into suicide.
Like there's a whole class action lawsuit
I was talking to Salehi on the phone
other day and he was just like
Yo type this in type that in
Then he's like yo dog
The shit the more you talk to
Because you could start physically just talking to him
He said yo the shit will start replying to you
Like niggins said they put relationship
Advice in the chat GPT
My daughter you was using it
What? And I had to tell her to stop
Oh this is ridiculous
Nika said yo download your text thread
If you arguing with your girl
Just down yo the text thread in the chat GPT
It'll advise you on how to apologize
to your girl or how to make up with your girl.
Now we got to figure out these niggins is using Chad GBT to talk to us.
Yeah, you know that nigga ain't say that fly shit on his own.
Exactly, he's dumb.
Now everything's clicking.
Like the jail niggas writing letters to your bitch.
Everybody got the same letter.
No, that's crazy, son.
That's some scary shit.
If that's doing dangerous because, like, you're eventually going to have to talk to her like
a person.
Right.
Or not.
And then my thing is, because I don't want to be a dinosaur,
but then I don't agree with that.
So where's the happy medium where I'm not all the way out of the loop?
You know what I mean?
I just don't, I don't know the AI shit.
I don't know why any human support it.
Because in every way, they're seeping into the game where they're going,
they could replace us and make money.
Green.
What's funny, we were talking about this at the bar the other night.
And Rem and my friend Jeremy were talking about how their kids are in school.
And like, the kids will use AI as a diss.
Like, they'll be like, that's just some AI shit.
Like someone comes in with too much makeup with you, you look AI.
Oh, shit.
The test is too hard.
Man, this test is AI.
Oh, shit.
So the kids is on some fuck that.
shit, which I thought was dope.
I told the story here. My only
experience using ChatGPT
is maybe two
years ago or a year ago Mother's Day
where I hit her and said
Happy Mother's Day. Baby,
I love you or whatever it was. That
was dry to her and she cursed me out.
I think that's all you got to say to me on Mother's Day,
you motherfucker.
I said, all right.
Chat GP.T.
Hook me up. Give me a long, loving message for a mom
with three kids. Oh, that's them captions.
you be writing that be fly.
I thought that came from rapper brain.
No, I write my own Instagram caption.
Oh, shit.
I thought I'm in a real text.
Yo, you stick a toll on this.
Your shit be flyer.
His captions be lit.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that.
I write my Instagram.
I ain't Mark.
Anytime Mark starts talking about his boundless love,
I'm like, all right.
That's just hate.
Mark be hitting it with that boundless love shit.
I like that.
I like that.
You'd be soaked that shit.
I got to go to your page
and read what you'd be saying to your girl.
Nothing?
Nothing publicly?
No.
Not even on like birthdays, holidays.
No.
His page is all business.
He just on.
Homes for rent.
On that Muslim super private shit.
I'm talking to my bar for the other morning.
I'm not even Muslim.
Yes, you are.
He's part of the nation.
He is.
Like a lot of people in my life are.
So I like talking to them like to learn and shit.
So he ain't taught you not to eat pork yet.
What learning you do?
He don't play that pork shit.
Yeah, don't say.
You can't buy it, put it in his house.
Nothing.
You can't look at it in the super.
He don't play that pork shit.
So that's for him and his girl.
Shout to Mill.
But anyway, he was like, yo, in our culture, our wives, our women, you can't hug them.
I said, for real.
I always act like he said, like, some.
Can't shake their hand.
I said, for real.
He said, yeah, it's disrespectful.
I said, how you, how.
I just say hi to him.
He said,
Ah,
al-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-ha-a-ha-ha-a-ha.
Yeah, that's what you're talking about.
Like some people,
some people are.
Wait, that's the end of the end.
Yo, if you was married,
you would shake a man here?
No, you don't shake no man.
We also toward the lower-ar-gays.
I mean, I'm not in the FOI,
but we have similarities.
You and Mark and Isch, y'all,
are trying to turn this podcast a different way.
None at all.
When I say lower your gaze,
you're not supposed to make eye contact.
And I know,
And I know you know, but you're not supposed to really make eye contact,
but there's no, like, male besties, you know what I mean?
Or, like, so the only, really, a Muslim woman is only supposed to be,
like, with her brother or her uncle.
And that's the same people you could take your overgarment off in front of, too.
Okay, so we are Muslim.
That's all she can be with, too.
Stupid.
I know a lot of guys that are not Muslim,
but they admire the way the marriage works,
and they kind of, like, try to end up.
emulate that to a certain extent.
You know what I mean?
It's some people are more liberal and progressive on that stuff.
True, true, true, you know what I mean?
Just like you see Muslim women that don't cover no more.
You just trying to justify eating them ham sandwiches.
That's your man right here.
You don't eat poor, I know that.
My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad, my little more liberal.
I ain't, I was talking about the wife and the girls and stuff like that.
And lower your kids.
No, I know.
I know. I don't, I don't judge people that do, but I don't.
Even if people are more liberal, still there is, like, mass jit etiquette.
So in the mass jill, you're still not doing that.
Yeah, like, if I go out.
If I go out and travel and I see people, I don't try to hug their wives.
I don't shake hands when I accept the word.
I just do this.
You know what I mean?
Just keep it moving because I respect their rules.
You know what I mean?
Or how they move.
Unless they initiate a hug, I don't go near it.
Let's revisit this if Mom Donnie wins.
Winning Mom Donnie wins.
If Mom Dami wins.
Shit might change.
But if Cuomo wins, then let's cater this.
I'm glad you mentioned Musco, too.
Let's cater the talk.
I was the other day.
And it made me think about what you were talking about outing people.
And you were like, you don't believe in pulling people.
about the closet.
Yeah.
Is that, like, a,
is that like 100%
or are there times
you feel that people deserve it?
Are you asking me?
I'm asking Joe Button.
There's never a time
where I feel like someone deserves that.
Okay.
Is there a time where someone deserves that?
I'm starting to think there is.
Oh, I'd love to hear this.
Outing them as far as what?
Telling the world.
Sexuality?
Yeah.
If you about to start telling me
about a criminal, then I'm not,
then I'm not, I wasn't.
Nothing criminal.
Nothing criminal.
Okay.
My beliefs are not based on.
No, that, that, that, I ain't tripping.
No, not that at all.
I feel like you have a right to privacy
unless you publicly attacking people
for the thing that you are.
That's when I start to feel a little different about it.
And people love to do that.
For example, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was,
I told you all the part of the story before.
I was walking through Newark.
And what you were going like that for?
I'm waiting here to listen.
The joke ain't on Newark.
But they had a gay private.
But it could be.
I mean.
In any moment.
There is a gay pride.
festival there.
Me and my wife
lived in, um,
was it brickyard?
No, not brickyard.
I am bound.
And so we were,
uh,
and so to get to her crib,
we cut through.
You know what I mean?
And I saw this dude there.
He's a very prominent Muslim.
Okay.
He wasn't,
he wasn't praying in this festival.
Is he in politics?
No.
Okay.
Let's just say he was
lower on his gaze.
Oh,
He was hiding.
He was hiding.
Oh, shit.
I'm at the edge of my seat with,
I want to do.
Yo.
And I have seen his Facebook rants
about homosexuality being evil
and wrong, and they're going to hell
and people, you know,
disrespecting the community
and ruining our families and all this shit.
And then I see him there.
And he looked different than he'd be looking on the Internet.
He looked different than he looks in the mosque.
I bet.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's saying.
Say shay.
I never seen
He's at a pride event
It was a pride of it
Oh shit
You're mad at it
You're mad at a nodded up joy
Yeah
You're a fool
And we're my wife was like
Is that's
We'll call him
Jamar
His name of not Jamar
I said that's Jamar
She's like that's motherfucking Jamal
And he tried to act like
He didn't see me
So as a dignified
Respectable person
Who believes in people's having space
They're on space
And they're on dignity
I was like
Jamal
Joe!
Joe!
Hey brother
Joe!
Yo, what you doing?
Jay Money.
And what I tell you, Jabal?
Hold that's.
You can borrow him for a quarter, right?
So, you go what?
You could have bought him for a quarter.
You know, it's a country expression.
I've heard it before.
You're from Virginia, you don't know this?
He's not really, we don't really know his background.
This is a hater.
He changed his shit up depending on the room.
I never heard it either, though.
So he comes over, nervous, shaking, looking, you know what I mean?
Now, he's talked shit about me in the past.
before, too.
Or on this day, he was my best friend.
Of course.
Hugs, how you doing?
A lot of family.
You need anything?
No.
So we leave.
And then the next day, he's back on his rants again.
Okay.
Maybe even, I might be reading into it, but it felt like even more than before.
But definitely it was a lot what he was saying.
The same shit.
And apropos or nothing.
At that moment, I would not out him.
But I don't feel guilty if somebody do.
And if I was one of them people in the festival
frolicking with him
and I saw his page
You would have to see you. You'll be offended.
I could understand why they might want to.
I agree, yeah. That's all.
Yo, I was watching. You know I don't watch that shit
did you y'all be watching. The docks and shit.
No, it was, nah, no, no.
You picked the biggest genre. You don't be watching it.
You don't have entertainment.
My girl had one of them
shits.
What's the one y'all just was talking about?
Gacy.
Yeah.
Galey.
Gacy.
John Wayne
They were talking about
that a lot of those people
be homosexual
Yeah
We were supposed to talk about that last time
And they said that it's some psychiatry
Some psychosis shit
Where they look at other gay people
Like
They're not gay
The gay people are like
Evil or crooks or some shit
They were just breaking down
The psychology of it
They kind of was like wow
So that might
It might tie into what you're talking about
Like yo this dude is going out
And renting
Going crazy
But low key
he get busy.
And people a lot of times
double down on that shit
because they feel like
Yeah, I know
I was like that's a good
And you see it all the time
with politicians
I mean, how many of the Republicans
get caught?
Yeah, they get caught getting busy
and those be the ones
They're making laws against
shit that they be doing.
I mean shit, we see it in hip-hop.
Exactly.
NBA young boy's mom right now
is saying that home boy is in the closet
That's why you're mad
And that's why yada y'all.
We'll get to that back and forth
But she's saying that now.
For me,
I understand that the same way
you allow people to live in their truths,
you allow people to live in their deception.
Like if you are
not a criminal, it is not
I'm just, I'm talking about me. I'm not mad
at your way of thinking, but
no matter what you're saying,
I'm not going to be the person to do that
to you. Because what you're
doing, even though it's wrong, the
greater cause for me are
just how many people from that community
end up killing themselves
or harming themselves from being
outed having to have conversation
with their family that hate gay people. It's too
much at risk for me to
just say, oh, you a dick,
oh, you a dick.
But stay there.
Based on those rants, though, a lot of people
are still committing suicide and fear and shame and, you know what I mean?
And all that other stuff. Because you
rant and you're embarrassing them and you
tormenting them verbally
online, that same result could be the thing.
I think most of America projects
shit that they have a problem with on
to other people. I don't think that's just a uniquely gay or LGBT
thing. But I also think that it's different and I feel like
gay people have been experiencing that forever. It makes me think of back
when the A's Adam and then we first started, the mayor back then,
concious and known homosexual and you know what I mean? It's like
I think that that's something that gay people experience and I also think
it's a difference when you're outed by somebody that's in your community.
So I feel like it depends on who's doing the out and how it's done.
Because if it's done by you just said this and this is fucked up.
and this got this many views
and I just seen you at this festival
with fucking wings on.
You had wings on in the thong.
Fuck that bitch.
But I think it would be accepted better
if it was done by gay people.
Even though it's still not right.
I agree with you.
It's not right.
I don't even,
not even as far as the suicide and all.
It's just wrong.
It's not your business to tell.
But a lot of times people hate that part of them
so they just project real bad.
And that's the psychology part.
Just like the serial killers
that would be gay is shit
and they get into this gay stuff
almost like have gay sex
and then murder the guy right after the gay sex.
You know what I mean?
It's a hate for what I'm doing, what I like,
when I'm attracted to.
But, yeah.
And of course, Jamal might say,
yeah, I'm secretly doing this.
I still think it's wrong.
You know what I mean?
Don't listen to what I'm,
don't follow what I'm doing,
follow what I'm saying.
I'm saying the right thing even if I fall short.
And that might be what they say.
That's with the Republicans offense.
I'm a center too, but still, it's still wrong.
I don't take that position.
It's different ways.
And with a topic like that,
there's no right or wrong.
Right.
You get what I'm saying?
But their position is that it is.
that it is. They're saying it's, you know, like, it's objectively wrong and y'all going to hell and I'm trying to save you. And that's the shit I hate about it is that you're so stridently. Save yourself, money. For me, what you're saying happens. So I'm not trying to invalidate that experience. What I know to be much more common are gay people being treated a certain way just for existing. Yes. Right. And you know, my point is, because I agree with that. I guess it's just I feel like people like that, Jamal, again, not his real name, y'all. I feel like Jamal is, is what.
of people making gay people feel bad for existing.
But if you are gay...
Yeah, but if niggas want to treat Jamar...
If niggas want to bend the rules for Jamal,
then go ahead and handle Jamal a certain way.
Like, I'm just saying my blanket, LGBT...
I'm not... I'm against it.
Yeah, I'm against outing in jail.
I wouldn't even out...
I didn't out Jamal, right?
You know what I mean?
And it's not my business, not my place.
Jamal's seeing you in the pants and was like,
you know what?
And he had this...
We got a secret together.
You didn't out him, but did you seek a picture?
No.
I'm not on that.
Like, again, like, I'm not on that.
Again, like, I could see that I hated, I hated, although I think he's an asshole, I hated the shame that I saw in his face and the guilt I saw in his face when I bumped into him and I said, I hate that the world is such a way that he has to feel this and that he can't be whoever he's supposed to be.
But the sympathy that I had for him was going the next day when I see him back on Facebook, making a whole generation of young gay people feel like that.
Yeah, I'm just saying I'm not, that's me. That's me. I'm not telling anybody else how to live. Just just my own views with the shit.
I agree.
Like that's it.
Yeah, I respect that about you too.
I also respect the fact that when people do shoot at you.
I mean, we joke up here all the time, but I'm talking about like out in the world.
That shit bounces off.
You actually don't care.
You're one of the few people, you know what we talking about earlier about offset when people like say they care but don't.
You know what I mean?
Or say they don't care but do.
But really care.
You really don't give a fuck.
Yeah, no.
I respect that.
It's a real thing.
I've learned.
I aspire to get to the level of Joe Button and not giving a fuck.
Let me finish.
Let me fix something that I say because I do that often.
When I said that gay people have been experienced that forever,
the first thing I think about is the AIDS epidemic
and the mayor being a known person in the bathhouses
is getting down.
People were begging for attention
because all these people were dying
from this disease that they called gay.
So it was like this horrible epidemic
and everybody's friends is dying,
and the mayor is a known homosexual
and we're not getting no type of attention
and people are dying.
That's what I was trying to say.
That makes sense.
Got it.
Got it.
You old is her.
Come on.
I wasn't born.
I wasn't born.
I wasn't born.
I like documentaries.
You old as hell.
Yeah, I wasn't born when he was, I'm the mayor.
Who cares that, in more music, who cares that there are no rap songs in the top 40 for the first
time since 95?
Not me, really.
Not me, really.
They're making a big fuss of this online.
That's interesting to me.
They're pulling up a whole list of classic hip-hop records that never made the Billboard
Top 40.
It's sparking a lot of conversations.
It is.
It's interesting for sure.
But then they also change some rules.
that make records fall out of the charts and shit.
There was 15 Taylor Swift records
from her new album in the top 10.
Yeah, like, this is the game.
They're going to tweak the rules
and this is the result of it.
And the pay-old.
They're legit.
At the month.
I mean, to me, the system is always rigged
when you talk about rankings.
So I don't care.
Yeah, me neither.
What I think is interesting
is less that there's no rap songs
and top 40, but just how much good music
has come out this year.
So when I think about nothing being in the top 40,
but these amazing projects being out right now,
it makes me not give.
It says more about Billboard than it does a rap to me.
It further cements that from me.
I felt like I should have seen more people echoing my sentiments, which was, I was happy about it.
It was celebratory time to me for all the reasons you just said.
And respect to Billboard, I just left there two weeks ago.
So, I mean, I don't want to sully my relationships here.
Keep that relationship.
Yeah, good, good.
I know good people that work at Billboard and fucking variety, which we'll get to in a little bit time.
I know good people over there.
My views are my views, which are Billboard is a fixed system with their own rules that they change whenever they want.
And they work in conjunction with all of the other.
The labels, the streamers, they just work in conjunction with.
So if I'm not seeing any artists.
then number one, I think that more artists have taken control of their brand.
Right.
That's a good point.
I think that more artists are recognizing their brand power and utilizing it in ways that circumvent some of these fixed infrastructures that you can't do nothing with.
A lot of these artists are popping without label support.
How you consume music now, right?
Billboard don't account for, and that's the problem with Billboard.
Billboard accounts for what they account for, and we'd have to look it up for me to know,
because I'm a dinosaur, I'm far removed.
But they're not accounting for impressions.
Right.
They're not accounting for engagement.
They may have a chart for that, but it's not the chart that we're talking about.
It don't add up enough to change what they do and they're fixed.
Like, I don't know about TikTok and Billboard.
I don't know.
But if TikTok and Billboard are not seeing eye to eye, it's because they in the back room are not seeing.
eye to eye. The same with YouTube and
fucking Disney. Like it's business
at play. Or they haven't come around yet.
They're not going to come around.
It's business. They're not
going to come around. You go get
it how you live it outside of us if you're not willing
to play by our rules. So I was
hopeful and happy that
more people are fucking finding
alternate means.
I also just think there hasn't been much
mainstream hip hop from the big
dogs that we usually see in the top
40 released recently.
So it's a non-
it's kind of a non-issue in that terms to me.
If we were getting Kendrick and Cole
and Drake and
any of the Travis, whoever,
Kanye, if he was still in the
system, having releases
and they weren't showing up. That might be
a different conversation. All of them niggas
is the problem. I agree with what
Parks is saying. We ain't had them
so they not did.
They all the problem. Travis,
all of these niggas, all of these
niggas that dominate the rappers
that dominate the Billboard
the six of you.
Right. Right? Because this problem
existed before this happened. Right.
Where it was six of y'all. It was covered
up by them six, right. So yeah, if you're getting
your hip-hop news from Billboard,
then you probably only know
seven rappers all together.
But, no.
And back to the point.
Luther would still be there.
But it's still only one song. Right. So they changed the rules.
Yeah, they changed the rules. And they said to Luther
would still be there, but it's still only one out of 40.
But I'm saying, but that one, that one song not being there now makes it a thing.
Right.
Dog, outside of Kendrick and Drake, all of y'all need to go back to the drawing board.
Outside of Kendrick and Drake and Future, maybe.
Travis, I'm done with you.
Uzi, I'm done.
All of these other fucking label darlings, any time you other niggas pop up there, I assume it's because the label made sure you popped up there.
That is a fact.
Yeah.
I'm not putting it on your fucking star power or ability to a bad thing.
appeal to an audience no more.
That's go for three fucking people.
So if y'all are happy with that,
then have it.
But don't front, like,
you're mad and disappointed now
because no rap is there.
Real hip-hop wasn't getting their hip-hop views
from Billboard.
You was getting it from somewhere else,
outside somewhere.
Go outside and see what's going on.
In fact, look for people
that weren't on Billboard to find out of shit.
You know what I mean?
Like, that was at one point in time,
that was a mark against the rapper.
Even this whole thing,
and this is my thing with the power of rap,
even this is just a commercial for Billboard.
Word.
Jay Z bar for everything.
We was praising Billboard when we were young.
Now I look at Billboard like, is you dumb?
Like, we don't care.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Billboard is for those who play the game.
That was fly, ice.
That's it. There's a whole bar for everything that happens.
It is. A lot of people are now finding success.
side of the game yet you're not going to see success
on Billboard. Great, like Joe said,
we're here now. Awesome.
Hey, let's continue to
lay the blueprint for how future
artists may be able to earn an income
without having to rely on some of these
fixed systems. Right. I think
that that's reason to celebrate.
While you can, at least, because
the second too many of y'all do it,
here they come to take it over there.
No, your dog, you can do it, nigga.
You can go make millions of dollars and not be on
Billboard at all. No, no, I'm not saying a billboard. I'm
talking about the
label games.
Like the second you all find,
too many of y'all find a way to make money over here,
it's a cat and mouse game.
You get ahead, they catch it.
Now y'all got to make another way, they catch it.
Well, the music business is reactionary,
and that's a great point.
Why do what's happening with Billboard
even make us have a conversation about rap
versus having a conversation about record labels?
All of them niggas is fucked up.
There you go.
Hey, you're not seeing nothing in Billboard?
Because they all in a disarray.
Yeah.
Some of them are moving.
some of them are dropping people.
I'm still waiting on the Jack Hollow record.
They still keep giving me fucking Tommy Richmond
songs. Like, I'm still waiting on a lot of
record. None of these labels know what they're
doing. Not one of them.
If you see an artist out there that's moving like the label
know what they're doing, it's because the artists know what
they're doing and got a good fucking person or team
behind us. The labels have got rid
of all influential
people that care about this shit,
passionate about the shit, know about this shit.
It's a bunch of fucking suits and numbers
and tech people. And we look into
tech places to tell us about music,
I'm not built like that. Never.
No. Sorry. I don't care what the algorithm says.
Me neither. Never have. Never was the algorithm.
Let me just not even play that was epic because I agree everything that's been said,
but the dominant music journalist
account of this, the narrative at least,
is that this, even if
all of what you all are saying is true,
that there's still something to be said about
the lack of engagement with mainstream rap music right now, that
rap music is less popular with mainstream America than before.
Is there any truth to that? Well, a lot of it sucks.
mainstream rap
I'm talking about mainstream rap
A lot of the mainstream artists
A lot of the mainstream artists
Ain't out
Like we could say whatever we want
My nigga Drake is Drake
That's how much to say
Like yo dog
Niggas want to not give him his props
That nigger moves the needle
In culture and in music
And so the fact that he hasn't put out
anything or anything quality
In the long time
That's a testament to him
And back to what I said about him
He's gonna have a hard time
Just because you can't sue people
and not have a harder.
And not have a harder stuff.
So hip hop is going to do some things.
What you're saying is true, but it's true for many reasons.
Right.
It's true for many reasons.
These niggas suck.
Nobody's innovative.
Right?
Like, it's a breath of fresh year when you see somebody do something new.
Yeah.
The hip hop I come from, everybody did something new.
That was the point.
Every other year or so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just don't like them trying to make it seem like,
because there's no
rap on Billboard right now that
all the rap is bad.
There's no good music out there
because that's a horrible...
Yeah, that's the part that I don't like.
I didn't get that from that article.
I got them kind of leaning more
into the Drake-Kindrick beef as a result.
I mean, this being the result
of the Drake-Kindrick shit.
Like if you read what they wrote,
it was kind of leaning toward that.
Okay.
But they kind of put a lot of it on the beef, right?
But I didn't look at it like they were looking at it
like hip hop has been trash.
But look, that is true.
He was A1
label baby.
When we first started...
Playing the game.
Exactly.
I just remember when I first started
doing music journalism
in the odds,
like around like 0, 3, 04
when I was really getting into it.
The generation before me,
the Greg Tates,
you know, the Dreamhamptons,
the Joan Morgans,
all those people,
they were talking about how,
the question they always were asked
is how long is hip-hop going to be here?
because there was that thing
this is a fad that's going to go away.
The 90s still happened.
When I got there, people were still asking us that question,
but we didn't have to write about it anymore.
And then it came a moment, like, maybe 10 years ago
where it was like, wait, maybe this thing ain't going.
Maybe this isn't disco.
Maybe this is the thing that's just going to be here.
And now I'm starting to hear that bubble up again,
like is rap on its way out.
All right, we know, we're not even going to entertain it.
I will not dignify such talk on this.
As a mainstream, no, they're saying.
It's someone on the mainstream.
They're saying will it go to, is it going the way of?
Yo, people, when people make you think that hip hop is just the music thing,
that's like to me some right wing.
Hip hop is more than what the Jewish people are doing with the music.
True.
Hip hop is a lifestyle.
True.
That's a fact.
And if you look at Louis Vuitton Runways, if you look at all of that shit,
all of that shit is being influenced by us.
We're in the world.
All that shit is being influenced by us.
My nigga, Farrell sitting on these couch.
in these boardrooms is a testament to hip hop.
Agreed. Oh, I agree with it.
You know what I'm saying? So I don't think hip hop is going nowhere.
That's what I hate about the narrative that I'm seeing from this Billboard thing.
I definitely remember that though, like when rap was still like, I definitely remember that
when rap was like, it was new. You know what I mean?
It was still fairly new. And it just, we growing up through the 90s through the 2000s,
it just, to me, it just got cemented because it infected everything else.
You know what I mean?
You spoke about.
Us our slang words being slang words for the country versus our slang words.
Like we really dicked.
We're the movement is in the shakers.
We dictate like how shit going.
What's cool?
You know what I mean?
We're getting put dictionaries based on our slang.
You can't reverse that.
You know what I mean?
But I definitely remember like when it was like compared to disco and other things that went in
and out and blah blah blah.
It's been here for 50 plus years.
It's not going.
It's not going anywhere at all.
And there's too much great shit to even dignify this fucking.
But also we got to just start asking the deeper question.
We've had a million artists come up to this very platform and say, I'm not releasing music because I can't release music.
True.
Yeah.
Like, some people don't control their output.
One, two, what the fuck do the labels, kid?
I got your digital rights.
I got your TV rights.
I have all the rights.
You all sitting here bigging up fucking NPR and all these other places that give all the money to the record label.
like talking about oh the artist musicianship
what are you talking about so every year
or every other year or every three or five years
whoever owns this stuff is going to negotiate
with the who makes up the streamer people
we step into YouTube we step into the people
licensing music and we're negotiating so
in that I might be holding some music
when UMG stepped to TikTok and said what the fuck are y'all doing
everything stops that's happening behind the scenes here
So music being plagued
is not just a rap
Rappers
There's a lot of moving parts in this
I have a question for you, right?
What's up to Demos?
I thought it was interesting
just being up here with you
and you being so open and blunt
about how fucked up the music industry is
because people like you have to do that
right?
For people to get it out there
you think back in the day
like people know the industries
were fucked up for black people
and things were outed
but I feel like when I was growing up
90s 2000s,
You didn't really see niggas go at the record label
and be open with their pieces of shit
and their fucking people.
Exactly.
You couldn't.
So now that we had a time where a nigga might tweak the record label,
I mean, there I say it,
some people might even push to where it's like
they reach on their following and say,
yo, this is what they're doing to me, y'all.
Y'all love me.
This is bullshit.
This is what happens.
Or like when we had Queen Anja up here,
she's talking about making a project saying,
here, fucking take it.
Just take it.
You know, to let everybody know the feelings.
My question is, when it's so open
and it's so widely known now,
what the fuck would have to happen for that to change?
Because it's wrong and everybody knows.
And it doesn't happen.
It doesn't even exist without us.
Without the artists, not us.
I think today you can make your soup a different way.
Just go a different route.
Back in the day, everything was controlled.
Now, most of it is controlled, but there's some options for you.
Again, I always ask people, like when I sign my record deal,
I had to sit with myself and say, what do you want out of this?
for me, that answer was
I want to be the best
the best MC
not make the best single
I had never even tried to make a single
I want to have the best album
I never even thought of an album before
I want to be able to walk in the room with all the rappers
and when I rap
they understand what time is
every artist got to figure out
what they want from this shit
that's why when Amani was here
talking another day about somebody
giving them opportunity I can't speak to that
right because that's not my
that's not my wheelhouse anymore
I've unprogrammed myself
from that
Once I learned that I could sell 13,000 copies of a project
and make more than I could if I sold 75,000 copies of a project over here,
I was cool.
Right?
Now you could go to fucking, what's all the fucking shit to fucking,
where Pat worked at?
Tune core.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You can go to your tune core.
Shit, Instagram will pay you.
TikTok a pay you.
YouTube will pay you.
You can sell it on your own.
Put the link tree in your shit.
If you make music, find a way to sell it.
Elibiate the middleman and just do that for your life.
I promise you you'll be fine.
Yeah.
And honestly, people sharing, when you sharing your personalities,
that was my experience on internet.
You share your personality like you.
They buy anything you have to sell.
So if you are a musician that you're not shy,
you won't have a problem sharing some shit.
Do more of that because that might look like you doing a project
and making it 50 bucks.
They're going to buy it because they love you.
That's the difference.
That comes full circle to the AI conversation,
which is another full circle in here somewhere.
But the AI shit is cool,
but long term, if people don't give a fuck about you,
you, they're not going to really give a fuck about the music.
It might be a slap in there that people put on play,
but there's no money in streaming.
I'm here to tell you if someone who's released a bunch of shit on streaming,
unless you have bazillion streams,
which you often pay for,
there's no money in that.
So cool, make your shit and put it on the internet.
Who gives a fuck?
Maybe you'll make a slap.
Cool.
But it's not really that important.
It's going back to your,
what do you want, combo?
There's a lot of people getting in hip-hop
as a stepping stone to get somewhere else.
True.
They heart not really in this.
This is just a lick.
I'm going to get in here, get hot,
and then move over here where I'm going to make the money
and be famous and do it X, Y, Z.
This is just an introduction.
And it reflects in, and they are.
Dog, go write a commercial.
Go write a jingle.
I think niggas.
They're nine to 20 seconds.
Spend your time doing that.
If you have children,
Put a camera in front of those little motherfuckers.
Facts.
Especially if they little.
Do it.
Yes.
Are you shitting me?
Anything my son pressed on YouTube is at $70 million.
What?
That's true.
Anything you press is at $70 million.
I'm not talking to you people that,
hey, my family is my private.
Somebody's going to come to that.
I'm not talking to y'all.
That's your prerogative.
Right.
But if you're on some different timing and you want 70 million views,
Hey, go explain how that vacuum work with your kid in the back of.
Seven.
I came in here and was telling you all the niggas during COVID
what Ms. Rachel was doing,
and she was doing three and four and five hundred million
without a manicure and chapped lips.
Shout out to Ms. Rachel.
She's a real thing.
Shout out to Ms. Rachel.
She's real.
Ms. Rachel like my nanny in my head.
Come on.
Come on.
Let me tell you something.
Ms. Rachel is willing to wish all the motherfucking views
to stand on her platform
and say free Palestine
and speak for people that they need her voice.
She's, she's, Miss Rachel's a real one.
You're a real-ass bitch, Ms. Rachel.
I love her.
Never heard her name again.
She's a real, little.
Rachel.
Hey.
And that was the last day.
Thank you.
Yeah, that was that.
That's how the doc ends.
She might as well come host up here.
No, I love that.
I mean, it's admirable.
A lot of people went and risking like that.
And they, because a nice amount of her feet pace
turned their back on her.
Did you hear that Dave song, by the last song of the album?
No.
He talks about it.
I'll play it for you later.
Okay.
Did you see that the UMG and UDO, the AI company, also settled this week,
coincidentally while all this hubbub about the top 40 was...
That's what I'm saying.
Niggas is doing deals in the background.
Fucking stupid fans is talking about some shit.
I mean, I ain't paying these fiends no money.
I'm paying these things no more.
But no, I didn't...
Yeah, the company, it's...
I think where B.B. L. Drizzi was created on the platform.
They think I'm one of them.
But what's interesting about it is, at least in the press releases,
is the artists that are getting used
in this AI modeling will be compensated
how that looks and I'm sure it'll be bullshit.
Please, yeah.
Sound like a lie.
Yeah.
No, even if what's the compensation?
And I'm sitting here doing all this.
That's the other thing.
Like, I don't even talk about this topic, really,
because I know most of y'all are signing your rights away voluntarily.
So I'm not really talking to myself.
Right.
Like, I'm the model of what I want to see in the community.
You niggas is fucking pay.
for play.
Y'all do whatever the fuck
they tell y'all to do.
So is some of you are out there right now
who don't have you,
who don't even have your AI rights?
Yeah.
Mm.
Dog.
Like, I ain't about to come in here
and keep preaching the niggas.
Are you crazy?
I used to talk about niggas
just using it as a stepping stone
to go to something else.
Somebody's using niggas
is using it as a stepping stone
to get out the pissy hallway.
Like, fuck.
Niggas can't even think about
the next step.
Niggas is thinking about
getting the foot.
fuck out this hallway
when niggas is selling
scag every day.
No, when I say that, I mean,
we talk about people
like caring about the art
and shit.
I'm just saying,
like, that's not the purpose
for joint getting into hip hop.
Listen, it's Halloween.
I don't want to beat people down with this.
It's Halloween.
Y'all making me man
because I'm really passionate
about this stuff.
But I do want to stay
on this AI topic
for two seconds.
Do you guys know
rest in peace,
Suzanne Summers?
Of course.
Damn.
Did y'all see the story
about her husband?
She's been dead, though.
Suzanne Summers has been dead forever.
She and her husband were married for 50-something years, 60-something years.
Now that she's gone, the husband has made an AI doll that he says he doesn't like to call AI.
He likes to call it her twin.
And he says...
Does that to make it less creepy?
He says that Suzanne Summers wrote 27 books before her death, and these were her
wishes that they program to this AI model because he's not ready to live a life without the
person that he married. I'm not mad at that. I do want to ask everyone here their thoughts on that.
I'm not. I told you all before. I think it's weird. I thought that's, remember I said a long time
that's where I've envisioned all of this shit going anyway. Transferring consciousness. Yeah, yeah.
That's like step one. What do you say? Transferring consciousness. Like when your body, some,
we see it in a million movies. Like your body is a show. It's a host. So if they
can take your brain or your
whatever and put it in another physical
soul for lack of a better word that's
what they're vying for we see it in a bunch of
now they're building it bro bro no
fuck no I'm not
I'm not forward I'm just talking about
I'm mad at it I don't know if I would
I think I would one of things
I'm freaked out about it that's weird
often the audience
when we're off camera a lot of times I tell
my colleagues that if something God forbid would happen
to my wife she was abducted by aliens
got hit by a bus or something like that that I would
immediately be aliens let's stick with the aliens
live a life of solitude and loneliness.
And this seems like it offers an alternative to that.
You know what I mean?
Where you can still have that partner that you want.
I'm shocked.
That's one thing about living is a part of it is death.
It's just what we fucking do.
I know that we can update things and make everything easier and accessible,
but we should not make it so that you can put your grandma and Barbara in your fucking in a robot.
Did you say grandma?
You know, I'll come back to grandma with this one.
Listen, when it, at the end of the day, the fact that you, you know, you go through
through life and you get this acceptance and you know that that's the end and you have something
even when people change you want to get better before you death where people think about
heaven or hell or whatever I don't think we should upset the order of that you get to spend
a certain amount of time when this fucking play then you go nigga it's over my nigga man that's
I hate that I hate that I agree with her I think that even like we all are 40 plus right
and I think that when we go remember our lives when we were 20 and we were just doing stupid
shit thinking that oh i got time oh i got time i'm not going to do that because i got time when you get
to a certain age you like no time is finite right and so let me get to it if you know that you could
just not die or y'all could just keep transferring my consciousness then you're not going to be
motivated to do nothing because you know you got time i got kids later when you and when you know how many
women i know that put off having children until they realize damn i don't have a certain amount of time in
which to have children. Let me get this done.
They thought you would spin. And then they thought,
look, look. It was waiting on you.
You let them down.
Now there's technology to those
that after a while couldn't, they're still having children.
Look at this lady, man. This is not Suzanne
something else. No, no, no. That's my thing. This is
step one. Like, that's my thing.
This is step one, fam.
Oh, yeah. It'll get better. That's all I'm
saying. I'm not. Yo,
I mean, have you seen the movies? I've seen
a bunch of them. Blackbeard.
Can we be honest? You don't have to put the books
it heard to fuck that doll.
That's all that man doing with that thing.
I don't think.
Okay.
He's definitely fucking that dog.
He's not listening to shit that bitch saying.
But that's also like the movie I came in here and asked you all about where
old boy bought the doll to fucking the wife got jealous and yada yada yada yada yada.
Yeah.
I think it's a little deeper than that.
I think it's a little more mental.
If I'm fucking the doll, nigga, check me in somewhere.
Bro.
Even though I'm not king shaming.
Yo.
I get it.
Hold on.
I'll be what.
I fuck the Fifi, nigga.
So you ain't got to talk to me.
I get what you said.
It wasn't a body attached too many times up here.
I'll talk about Fipi's too many times up here.
I'll be trying to relate to Hush.
You're a jailbird.
The gross.
Yeah, what's y'all got on the female side?
Yeah, what's a girl Fifi called?
A BB?
No, I've seen girls make strapp ones and dildos.
I don't know.
In tespines.
Like underwear, you make the strap on with the underwear.
The dildo is usually like, usually internally pins.
Then you do maxi pads around it.
And a lot of maxi pads, then you do rubber gloves.
Now you've got a rubber hard whole dick.
You're not going to beat the allegations.
I've never had any pussy.
You don't know if I get some pussy
because I'll be in your bitch phone.
Stop playing.
You don't want me to try pussy.
Trust me.
Stop playing with demona.
Really, though.
But no, seriously.
Eat your bitch out, nigga.
They do.
They do.
We made tin pines in jail.
We made pants.
It don't give you nothing.
You don't have no supplies.
You got to do what you got to do.
And unfortunately, they don't sell dildos on commissary.
Would you believe it?
No, but I think that, I think it's morally wrong.
Don't even bring in religion or whatever.
I just think that even learn how to deal with grief
and getting past that, you know,
or having a certain respect for people that left your family
and we remember them and we have events and stuff like that.
It's like, you are supposed to go.
I don't, there's no way.
Some of the stuff that we do here
when it's planning as humans,
it should stay that way.
Like really.
See, I think that's the next step in humanity, man.
Because what you said was that you would do it.
You would totally put your lady in the fucking dog.
You said that.
I didn't say that.
I said that.
And what you're saying is not humanity.
I'm just saying
I'm talking about
So whatever
I'm with you that there will be a next step
I'm again
My pushback is I don't think
We will be here for it
No we won't
We might not be
We're starting
It should be escalating quick though
We're starting
Technology I mean
And it might be right around the time
We need it
Like when we in our 70s
And our 80s
That's still 30 40 years from now
That shit might be right
You know what I mean
You gotta look at the dial size
You gotta look at the downside
They come out with something
While I'm 80 now
Hold up
thinks about the positive. What's the negative side?
Donald Trump is president forever.
Forever!
Nika, no, overpopulation. It's a whole bunch of other things
that are going to take place. We already
scrapping and clawing for resources now.
So imagine when motherfuckers is not dying and leaving the planet,
where the resources are going to do? But it's a robot. He's not eating.
He's not doing this? Like my ears in?
Listen, it's your house. And listen, I just watched this random TikTok
where it was like, it was like three or four minutes
of old people saying, I'm ready to die. Literally.
birthday parties for grandma
she make a wish she blows the candle
I hope I die
all people will be ready to fucking go
like even having that feeling
of like I did my job here
my titty's on my knees
I'm ready to see Jesus
It's nothing wrong with that
I just I'm almost surprised that
more of y'all are not where me
it's and Joe are like what the fuck
I'm okay I am I'm sorry
Because what about when they start doing it
without your fucking consent
Go ahead then you close us
Because for me
but for me right
and one of y'all can close us out still.
I'm still down with the reports
that was coming out about niggas paying
to go freeze themselves and get unfrozen
laid on. Like I haven't left that
part of reincarnation
or freezing. I haven't left that yet.
So to skip to
all right, you're dead and that's it.
And now I'm taking all your shit
and putting in AI, I can't get jigger with that.
I just feel like every generation
confronts technology that makes us rethink
what life is and what natural is.
from freezing eggs to there's time people in comas and resuscitation and all that shit people like no they're supposed to die let them die like that's nature like we always confront this and I think it always seems weird to us but the next generation it might be normal so I'm I'm not with it either in all jokes aside but I could empathize for somebody who would be did anybody see did anybody see Kim Kardashian say that the moon landing wasn't real oh please I missed that one dang I need to see it well it's only a thing because of like a real scientist that was involved
with the shit replied to her and was like,
big dog. We were
there, we were there a few times.
I can meet with you, I can teach you.
The niggas that be educated
when they're reading you, it's so
nice and sweet and polite.
It makes you feel warm. I can meet
with you and educate. I can show you
the studio where we filmed it.
I'm not mad at her, though.
Listen. You don't believe the moonlanders?
Fuck no. I'm not doing this anymore
though, no. Okay.
See, I'm not willing to say that publicly.
I would say it because I don't believe.
You shouldn't.
What I will say is I believe Kim Kardashian knows things that we don't.
I do feel good saying that.
I feel good saying that's put a lot of faith in the couple.
I know Jay the sex tape.
I stand with him.
But niggas is like, we know.
On the news this morning, they was like, oh, Kim Kardashian, oh, we were looking to hear from her.
Let's hear from.
And I'm like, yeah.
But I do.
I do believe she knows some shit that other people don't.
I think there are things she knows, especially in politics in the world that she operates in.
When it gets to science, I probably am.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that part.
I have less faith in.
You know, she can't, that money, certain types of money put you in certain types of rooms.
And I think we, we.
Oh, tripper.
And I really believe this to be true about her mom.
So I believe that she talks to her mom.
I think her mom knows some of the dad secret.
They know some shit.
See, I don't like the thought that someone has a lot of money.
so they know shit.
It's putting wealth in...
I agree.
I said access.
Praise.
Whatever.
There's mad, rich people
that are not very bright.
They just were intuitive
and genius
in some type of operation.
So, like,
a whole bunch of very rich people
in a room doesn't mean
necessarily to me
that they have some secret meaning
of life or anything else.
I agree with that.
There's a bunch of...
It could be a bunch of rich,
stupid people in a room saying dumb shit.
Can the room give me three people
that are very rich and dumb?
Donald's...
I'm not doing that.
I'm going to be rich.
Donald Trump.
Because we say that a lot and I believe that.
It's going to be hard.
What does dumb mean?
What's rich?
See, all right, I'm done.
I clock out.
We got to do that.
It's so annoying.
That's what I'm saying.
What side is going to get?
I don't like smart and I don't like labeling people smart or dumb for that reason because
to me it's always about context.
Donald Trump.
See, and I don't think that's true.
I don't think he's dumb.
And this was my point that I made when we was having a conversation before about
we know what we're talking about.
Have y'all heard him talk?
You could be smart and.
some area. And you could be a total
fucking Neanderthal in other areas.
That don't mean you dumb.
It's some people, like the analogy I gave,
you could be a brain surgeon and know nothing
about finance. That means you're not
stupid, my nigga, you just are not knowledgeable
in that particular facet of life.
That don't mean you stupid. You could be an entrepreneur, no,
absolutely nothing about space. I would love to.
Exactly. I would love... You could be a boxer and can't read.
I would love to hear what
topic that Donald Trump has ever
spoke on, what things that he's ever taking
place in. Investing in real estate.
Real estate and investing.
Okay, yeah, we just want to agree to disagree.
Right.
Because that's crazy.
I will also make a distinction.
How much failure that motherfucker had?
He learned from all the fucked up and small mistakes he made.
He's a bum.
That's what you learned from.
But let's really talk.
Fuck it.
The father was in the real estate.
So he talked about somebody.
Your father basically laid the blueprint.
He switched it up because the father was in residential ghetto shit,
no apartments, right?
But still, if y'all had a dad that was in real estate,
when you started, would you had that many bankruptcies?
Would you fuck up as much?
he did, that boy is dumb.
He's an idiot.
He made bad decisions.
He shouldn't have gotten to Lany City because he was a bad
idea. But bankruptcies are good
bankruptcies are great
business decisions. Yes. Because what
it allowed him to do was not pay his vendors,
not pay the contractors, not
pay all of these people. All the good people of
Jersey, they did they too.
There's no good people of Jersey, but your points will take you.
Thank you. That's why you're here.
Clean it up. Yo, but again
from a business perspective, because I think it's
weasel shit, but from a business
perspective, if I can run up $300 million worth of debt and then file a document that says,
yo, I'm bankrupt now and I don't have to pay $300 million a debt, that's a great business
decision that he was taught.
So his father, and I don't like Donald Trump, and it sound like I'm capable.
I know, I know, I know, I'm being objective.
If my father left me $2 million, $3 million, that's a head start.
And I took that $2 or $3 million and turned it into $500 million or $500 million or $2 billion.
you can't say that I'm dumb.
Right.
Because there's a lot of motherfuckers that leave
their kids money and they do
nothing with it. They squander it. I just read an article
about Homeboy from a different world.
Ron.
Duane Wayne's man. His father left him
mad bread. They said that nigga ran
through the bread and squandered everything.
So it takes a certain level of intelligence
and navigating the New York City versus
the mob and all that shit in gambling
to get where he got. Yeah. And I just
feel the opposite. The bankruptcy
probably was the wrong example. I feel like
for a person to have a head start
like your father giving you a loan
and have that record in real estate
and when you look,
if you really look at his past
his start in real estate,
I just feel like he's stupid.
Like he makes bad decisions.
Even how many businessmen
that made great money
would have gotten to politics,
that was stupid.
Him even saying,
let me be the president
made no fuck his power play.
His family,
what's president?
Fuck him,
my mom.
Stop, stop,
his family, they say,
on record,
has made a billion dollars
every month that he's been the president.
And close me out.
You close me out.
So you can't now say
that that's bad decision making getting into politics
because it gets me the access
to do other shit and be around other people
and be in other rooms that
I could mask my real goals
in politics.
On to, because we still
not leaving music, on to an
argument that I feel like we've had
up here a bunch, but
it's come up again. So I'll
ask you guys again.
Jay-Z versus the field
in a versus.
He loses. There's Jay-Z audio.
I mean, I feel like it's old audio
It is. It is. I don't know why
this is a fucking thing again.
Because the Versus. Because Versus is back.
And now they're trying to coax
who can JZ to be in the Verses. It makes sense.
Yeah.
I wouldn't be surprised if Tim would never do it up.
Swiss knows Jay Z would never do a version.
And Timblin knows Jay Z would never do a verse.
Still gets more Versus talk going on.
But now it gets more Versus talk.
So maybe an artist that may not be Jay Z
now put his hat in the ring.
Right.
Okay. So I'm just going to ask you all quickly
and hope that it doesn't go into like a full rage.
I don't want to.
It's only two people.
That's more than the stage.
It's more than the stage.
I do it.
Do it.
Say it.
I think it's only Drake and Kanye.
Got it.
Freeze.
I hate it.
We going to 20.
Drake and Kanye.
I heard you.
I don't even want to say it in this room.
Honestly.
Because.
Why?
Because of y'all.
I'm not going to fight with you.
You got to say Gucci?
No.
He's going to say some Westco's.
Do you say Wayne?
I don't say Wayne.
Sexy Red.
Future is a hard time.
Oh, future.
Future is a very hard time for Jay Z universes.
That's a weird matchup, but yeah.
A very hard time.
Very hard time.
Okay.
I think for the matchups,
they would actually make sense on paper
from, you know,
in entertainment standpoint,
I think,
yeah,
yeah,
and Drake,
probably,
I'll put in a conversation.
I don't put Kendrick.
It would be a fight.
I'm just saying people that could put a fight.
Anybody that can,
you need somebody that can go
wherever Hove can go.
Like,
all right cool you got you got a hard
barred up record I can go here
you got a hit record I can go here you got a girl record
I know you got a clever like you need
it's really a select Tia
another one I stay so sick of you as the New York
Southern nigga I'm not a New York
whatever you're so tired of ice
I don't care about don't tell me what they think about me
I don't care I'm being me saying Southern shit
I don't know the future
I don't know the future wait wait hold on
mute up mute up I just said I'm not saying
I wasn't doing this with your
And you said you wasn't going to fight with you.
You said that with Future and I didn't fight with you.
I said, names.
I said, I only want to say this because I don't want to fight with y'all.
You're not saying with your whole dick, not tuck, that T.I. does anything with Jay Z.
I'm saying this is why this conversation is nuts.
I'm saying that it's a lot of songs.
It's a lot of songs.
And somebody that can go wherever.
Are you saying that T.I. is one of those people?
Yes, I am.
Yes, I am.
Stamp it.
Yes.
Ice.
I don't care who.
I don't care that you all don't agree.
I don't care.
I don't get 20 for Jason.
And I love Tia.
I love Tia.
Shout out to Tia.
All right, so next topic, man.
Go listen.
I'm not a minute.
I would say part of it is also...
Part of it, I think is generation.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
I said so I can go to sleep audio nightquil.
Poppy.
Hey, shut up.
Poppy.
All you all, y'all, y'all want me, right?
Possible, you know?
I was chilling.
I tried to chill.
Bring their rural ninja out.
Come to do.
Dragon Flachos.
Bring the world ninja house.
Bring the world in jail.
Go ahead, Mark.
All I was going to say was...
But he know all the silk to shock...
Every last one of them.
You're going to go to sleep
when the world is yours come on.
The world is mine.
Go ahead, Mark.
All I was going to say is I think
a little bit of his generation.
I don't think nobody gets Hope out of there,
but when I talk to people...
Like, when I talk to, like, my kids
or people of that generation,
they think nobody gets Drake out of there.
And so I think Drake's 20 does match Hoves 20
if you're 25 years old.
For me, it doesn't.
So that's the toughest out for me.
The tough is out from our job.
generation, I think is Ye.
Because Ye's also going to bring his stuff that he produced,
and I think that just makes it a tougher matchup.
But I take Hove over everybody in the universe.
I take Jay-Z over everybody.
Hope is the goal.
I think only two people can stand on stage, and that's Kanye and Drake.
I think everybody else is going to fall short.
Like, I don't.
Future got some bangers, but you say he got barred up records.
I don't see nothing where Future could sit down and put his
favorite lyrical record out, and Jay-Z is going to demolish the level.
Again, and I would have to go with one of my
the Trump cards to play against that.
Gotcha. That's all.
If we bring it back, if we do the versus is coming back,
we also need to bring back more, like, celebrity boxing matches.
Like, I don't get as exciting about a versus as I get at the thought of, like,
Judge Mathis and Judge Joe Brown fighting.
Like, I would love to see that.
See, I don't, because these things, when I watch these celebrity, they, like.
I would pay for it.
I'd pay, no, or MC Shan and Will.
Facts, shit like that.
I would love to see Joe Brown.
and Judge Mathis, and I want him to argue
like what the battle rappers do first, and then
rumble. I just want to see my beat this shit out of Joe
Brown. No, for sure, Judge Mathis.
He's on my least favorite people in the world. Joe Brow can't fuck with
Judge Mathis. I want to fight some of you podcasters
too. I ain't going to like that. Yeah, we could definitely do the
pie fighting. I'm with that.
On God. On God. Set it up.
Seriously. I know, I know y'all going to think
I'm joking because I'm pardon.
Set it up. There are a few podcasters
that I would not mind putting the shit on
and going to a park somewhere and beating
the absolute dog shit out of.
Just because of your style of pardon.
Me and Joe back to back is a scary sight.
How many on your list?
It ain't a lot that I want to do that with.
Three or four.
That's only two.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
I know two.
I know two.
I know two.
I got to get beat up.
Just because that's, sorry.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Homeboy Duke.
He another one.
Put him in there.
And I'm not saying that it's beef because niggas hear this shit and take it the wrong way.
I like.
But.
Come to Central Park.
There's a few of y'all that y'all can come to the park
and get pause put on y'all for PlayPlay.
Or pause put on me.
Paper.
I'm right.
Yeah.
That'd be great.
You might.
Put it together.
This is my other podcast.
I'm with that shit.
No.
I'm with that shit.
No, because then I got to speak to him.
No.
I don't want to speak.
That's gross.
How your people speak.
I don't want to speak to nobody.
You ain't got to talk to nobody.
But the niggas, the niggas I'm following strangers that are by the monkey bars
in their head gear.
Some of them in New York on cement.
Like, I'm following sickos.
It seems to be a budding business also of just meeting up,
scrapping.
When it's over, it's over.
Like, it's a ref.
It's a real thing.
It's not me just talking shit.
But I think that that could be really profitable for podcasts.
We can even donate some of the money to our favorite charity.
We can do Turkey Drive.
We can fight at the Turkey Drive.
I fight some of them.
You got a list on them?
One of these niggas break your way.
And you podcasts look flabby and sick.
I quit smoking and I'm in the gym
three to four times a week.
You niggas look flabby and sick.
I'm with all the shit.
I was beating you niggas up out the gym before.
I'm totally with this now.
I trust my hands.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry you don't.
I'm sorry you don't.
Joe would a swobble.
I'm sorry you don't.
Shit you're dumb.
Man, you need to put the fucking gear on this.
You ain't say nothing?
On the top of my head probably.
You got a new dog.
You got four?
Yeah.
for her but I was one I once
wait oh I want that big bad
it's not all you think
I've never said her name on his platform
yeah I love more
I really love all of you
I do
you guys are great
what else what else what else what else
did he got his first assignment
don't stop it
did he is in four dicks like I told you all
he was gonna go what you mean no no I mean he got his first
prison assignment inside of dix
oh where he's he's in jerks
he's in dicks he's in four dicks
And he's in charge of clothes.
He's in charge of laundry.
He's in laundry?
He's in breaking news.
Yeah, he's in laundry.
That's surprising they put him in laundry.
Tell me why.
I don't know.
Like, Kim worked in the warden's office.
She cleaned the Warren's office.
They kind of keep them separate.
Laudry is like a basic job like the kitchen.
Everybody's like,
so maybe he's in laundry.
So maybe he's in laundry, but they got him like just in the corner doing something.
Because they're not going to just sit him on a line foating what niggas is not.
Or maybe he's trying to blend in.
I hear a lot of, a lot of...
You don't have that choice.
Are you saying because...
You know what I'm saying?
Like they don't, you, sometimes you go you directly in a hole.
It's for your protection.
But Fort Dix is a law.
No, not in Fort Dix.
Yeah.
No, I'm just saying, I'm saying some situations you're directly in a hole, but I mean, he's doing a bit.
I'm sure he's not in a hole, man.
What, Fort Dix?
I think it's a law.
I don't think so, no.
My dad cried for weeks when you turn about Fort Dix.
It's levels inside of Fort Dix.
Yeah, it's more than one, I think.
If you end Fort Dix, it's a luxury and it's a privilege and thank God before they
they ship you out to somewhere else.
They said they got him cleaning clothes is what they're directly with it said.
If you clean in the floor with your tongue,
in Fort Dix and somebody that has to do
a sentence, you should be happy in New Jersey.
No, I'm telling you.
You're different between something with your tongue.
Niggas was living great in Fort Dix.
It could have gone a different way for you.
Shows of Cus.
Listen.
Free you. Whoa, you free now.
I know a lot of y'all out there, don't
fuck with Amanda Seals.
I love Amanda Seals.
I love Amanda Seals.
She's my friend. She's my friend, my dear
friend, my sister, my homie.
I like her. What do you know?
I felt bad when I was,
Amanda Seals done said some stupid shit
before did I disagree with?
She has.
However...
I think she's got a good intention.
I feel like the people don't know
and she may not know,
but I really fuck with Amanda Seals,
but I don't say it enough.
I'm glad you said that.
People don't say it enough.
And my last time speaking to her,
she expressed something like that
to me.
Like, yo, dog, we go back to fucking college days.
Like, nigga, when they talk about me,
like, if anybody understand it should be you.
And I think she's absolutely right about that.
So shout out to Amanda Seals.
I love you.
I hope you're doing well.
Love you.
And boy, I laughed for about 45 minutes.
I just clipped that Amanda Seals put out the other day.
I didn't hear the clip.
Oh, I got to hear this.
I did.
Okay.
Okay, this is great.
This is great.
Because we don't know if we talk about Amanda Seals.
But I had to write this down.
I got a bunch of bullshit topics here, and this is one of them.
So Amanda Seals went on a rant about a movie that Kiki Palmer is executive producing.
Okay.
How do it?
Oh, no, I can't because that's a set up question.
What do you think about Kiki Palmer?
I fuck with her.
I think she has a great attitude.
I don't know enough to make a judgment.
I've been through some shit with Kiki.
I rock with her.
I think she's a winner too.
She's consistent because, you know, that's a killing to be.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Shout to her and her beautiful mama.
Yeah, she definitely comes off like she's a nice person
or she's like, you know, easy to be around.
I'm never a matter.
Kiki Palmer is executive,
is the executive producer on a film that is putting,
that is showcasing and highlighting an Asian woman's
experience going to an HBCU.
This sounds like it could be funny.
It's a comedy?
Congress executive producing about the
Let's go, man.
Wait, and before I play this,
that's why we need Amanda Seals.
Yeah.
Regardless of what you think about her.
And, I mean, I know about that bullshit.
She says you walked back.
We offer that.
But this is why we need Amanda Seals.
Because all of y'all are just going to say,
I love Kiki Palmer.
She's great.
I don't know that about her.
She's amazing.
Man, listen.
Fuck out of here.
All right.
Heke Palmer's executive producing
about the Asian girl at the HBCU.
Like, what are we talking about?
Why is that a movie that needs to be made?
She's right.
Black community needs a leader like me than more.
No.
What is the black community?
No.
I disagree with this part.
Well, I say, no, I don't.
She goes on explaining.
No, I don't want to leave the black community.
Nope.
Come on.
I'm interested in community that is about collective liberation.
That's what I'm about.
Collective liberation for all.
You know, the Black Panthers?
Like, they had a 10-point program.
And within that 10-point program, I believe the first one was,
power to the people
all power to all people
No Joe Biden
And she goes on the rant
So I don't need to play this
But her first statement of
Why do we need this
Who asked for this
And why is this the story that we're telling
I think we're all amazing points
That need to be said
And somebody need to say
And all y'all pussy so y'all won't
So we need a man to seals to say it
But in the movie
The girls adopted
it. So she's raised by black parents.
That's an important caveat.
She's raised by black parents.
So her experience growing up is that.
So in college, she still wants that to continue, hence the Asian girl ending up at the HBCU.
If this is not a big deal and a nothing burger to you guys, please feel free to say it now.
It is not a nothing burglings to me.
I think it's interesting.
Same.
The conversation.
And I agree with Amanda.
thousand percent on this.
Same. Same.
You know, there are
a million stories to tell in Hollywood.
They don't all have to be told, though.
And when we have such a small
slice of the pie anyway,
to devote that much energy,
I mean, there's a lot of great HBCU stories
we could tell.
To tell a story about the one Asian person
raised by black people who go to HBCU
seems like an extravagant waste of time, to me.
It's another American slap in the face
to black people, to me,
and then they always go get one of us
to fucking walk, walk the dog
to us.
Like, nah, that's the thing.
That's the thing.
You know what it makes me think of?
It makes me think of the whole, like,
you hit the nay-nay and then we in the comments,
like, you could come to the cookout, Billy.
It's just, we just always giving where we got,
we, you know, we ushering or we helping or we assisting.
It's just, I just think that today's climate
is just not the time.
I just think it's bad timing.
I don't know if it was ever would be good timing
to do some shit because hourly we think about it,
it's probably funny.
It's probably, you know,
Like funny to watch.
That's what I'm saying. Our gift is our curse.
Black people,
Giff is just being welcoming and loving and being warm.
And the curse is being welcoming and loving and warm.
Because when they go put y'all in an Asian movie,
they're going to make you the black boyfriend
that they brought home to the household
that ain't familiar with black people.
Right.
That's the movie that you're going to be in.
Yeah.
And they're not making that movie.
They're not.
That's the thing.
It's not even coming out.
It's not even coming out.
Actually, that's not true.
They make that movie sometimes.
And it comes off the way that we think it comes off.
Asians ain't making it.
That movie might get made.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, we are wounded people, and we've been through so much,
and black people have been despised people for so long
that we are so happy when people fuck with us.
Oh, my God.
That sometimes we, like, oh, they fuck us.
This Asian person, this white person fuck with us.
So then we.
That we lease our experience to them.
Yes.
Right, exactly.
And I hate that that happens.
And we abandon our own.
We not only lease our experience.
Like when they did integration.
And now we could go eat at the white people restaurant.
They feed you at the back door.
walked in the front door or the black restaurant,
you'll go eat food from the white man's back door
when they're spitting in shit just to say
you ate from the white man restaurant. That shit is
insanity. But I'm not, I don't feel
the same way about the movie.
And to be clear, I don't know what Kiki's role
is in this movie. Executive producer
That's all it's reported. For film.
As y'all know, executive producer can mean everything
from you paid for it, you got it shy.
Although usually produced, the producer
in movies is more important than executive producer.
Do y'all want to play the trailer? Is that important
at all?
Let's play it. I want to hear it.
I think all of that stuff matters because I'm not against the movie.
Okay.
I know I got some explaining to do.
I got it.
Let's start with the elephant in the room.
Yes, I'm Asian.
Yes, my family is black.
And yes, I've always been hard to miss.
This is Coco.
Her name Cocoa.
Why her name Coco?
See, I hate it.
Once you enrich yourself in the opportunities here, I'm sure that you will find W has so much
powerful.
I mean, to hell or not to hell.
All right, no, no, no.
And let's be real, right?
If you are, if you are, if you are the Asian girl and you are raised by black people,
wouldn't you think at that time where you like,
because there's a lot of kids that are adopted, when they're 18 and 20,
that's when they go looking for their people.
So why wouldn't you want to get into your culture,
being that you'd be surrounded about niggish shit for so long?
Because the age, BCU is lit.
True, but in reality.
It's not your culture.
It's not your culture.
It's not your culture.
It's not your culture.
I'm saying...
This is all I know.
If I was raised in a black neighborhood by black people...
Like you were.
For 20 years...
Yeah.
Well, I'm saying to discover what you came from.
That's not everybody's...
When I say to you that a lot of people get adopted,
sometimes they go around when they age
because you're away from your parents
that you can make your own decisions, right?
A lot of times adoption papers,
they're still until this nigga just fuck me.
Y'all, y'all can't see this,
but Amani just walked into the room.
He got to come here.
Dressed like Michael Jacks.
Just walk on set for once.
Because I don't want people to think
Fuck me up with this fucking hair.
Can you just step on here for one second, sir?
Yo, please, yo please.
That's synthetic hair too.
M.J. would never.
No, that's his hair.
You look good, he, man.
He looks like something.
Oh, nice to see you.
I love you.
You're talking.
I'm over 16.
I love you.
Oh, shit.
I kid.
I don't even.
I'm done.
I can't.
Amani, you really, I like how you.
You really like enjoying your 40s, Joe.
Like, look.
He really is.
You look like you wanted to do this your whole life
You know how you wanted to do this when you was at
What's the name of Mike House?
Neverland
Neverland
You look like you had this in your closet your whole life
No we all did
We all did dress up
We all did dress up
Check my Instagram
I'll post a picture
Go ahead
Does anybody have any more to say on this
I'm good on this movie
I hate that her name is Coco also
Fish Out of Water stories are a central trope
In Hollywood right
We love stories with somebody
somewhere they're not supposed to be.
So I get that as a theme.
Again, but when you do,
when the fish out of water is here,
I worry that the joke becomes the HBCU,
that there's Asian girls in this place with these people.
And we become the butt of the joke.
Or we get exoticized and it becomes,
look at me in this place,
but I can make it because I can dance like them
or talk like them.
I just don't like what it does
when there's so much beauty in HBCUs.
And at a moment where HBCUs
are in desperate need of funding,
getting underfunded and need support.
I don't know if this is the story
I would want to tell about it.
You could tell us.
You could tell the story of Dion Sanders.
I don't know if it's the story.
You can tell a story of Deon Sanders being a dad to his black quarterback at Jackson State.
Like there are some great feel-good HBCU stories that you could tell without having to go get the little Asian lady.
Yeah, or a young drug dealer from New York.
You like this Asian lady story.
You keep making faces shaking your head.
I don't know the story, so I don't know if I like it or not.
I'm open to going to see the movie.
The premise of it.
I don't know the premise.
We didn't give the plot.
We need you down with us, nigger.
I don't know.
I'm not saying I'm against it.
on forward. He went to HBCU as a
nine. I mean, like he had the same.
They accepted.
As a non-
as a non-black. You're right.
I was not a part of, what was the name of your cult?
See, they always go to the cult.
No, what was the name of it?
HW. CU.
I'm not, I'm not opposed to either one.
I'm good.
I won't be seen.
Listen, I know it's not a topic that we normally
broach up here, but I thought it was compelling
and interesting, so I wanted to at least ask
you all about it.
Let's stay on the topic.
of licensing your likeness to people
and being a fish out of water.
Let's get to Adidas.
Farrell put out the jellyfish sneaker a few months ago.
Freddie Gibbs came up here warm in front of my face
when I didn't have a peer.
I told my girl for months that I wanted some jellyfish.
She still ain't going stock eggs and give me the jellyfish.
So now we have in a jellyfish conversation.
Months after the jellyfish came out and I still don't have it.
That's unacceptable for me.
However, you giving her to jellyfish.
Niggins, she's getting...
Oh, shit.
Now, you got to slot them.
You got to slot them, y'all.
Nah.
That's a problem.
You're even.
Oh, no.
You're my man.
You're my man, don't.
You're my man, darling.
You're my man.
Wow.
That was.
That was a good one.
It's up for you for the rest of November.
We could.
The whole month.
I don't let go.
It's the first.
I don't let go.
I don't let go.
He got that off.
And he got off that other one
a couple weeks ago,
paying holes daily.
What he said?
Oh, the PhD band holes daily.
I didn't forget about that.
That's what I said,
you see how you remember some shit?
That's the thing is crazy.
I didn't forget about that.
And if niggas cashed you
a little something on the side,
like don't Instagram it.
That's crazy.
You know, somebody did that, dude?
Not to me.
I'm in love.
Oh.
ain't that part of philanthropy
yes no no
yes
yeah
there's some other things
in this equation
that we're probably not
a part of philanthropy
yeah
see y'all changing
what words
I'm looking up right now
me too
if I donate to your cause
what's the cause
ain't that philanthropy
whatever the cause may be
what's the cause
free to
because you didn't have to
niggas
you did it
free to sperm
oh shit
sperm well
yeah there you go
so yo fam
Anyway, Adidas and Farrell put out the jellyfish sneaker a few months ago.
Limited peers were available and it went in the aftermarket for astronomical prices.
Right?
Not even four months later they are back with the squid sneaker, which is the jellyfish sneaker at an affordable price.
Nothing wrong with you doing that.
I think this is what Kanye was talking about
when everybody was calling that.
Exactly what he was.
You're taking all of my designs.
You're taking my sauce and my swag.
You're repurposing it and reducing the price.
You're fucking me up out of here.
And you own it so you get to do what you want.
Put Kanye to the side for a second.
Tell me how this benefit...
Well, no, actually, I know how it benefits Adidas.
What do you mean?
Yeah.
Is this a case of Adidas stepping on their own dope?
Yes.
Or would you guys have done the exact...
same thing with the exact same timetable.
I think Adida did two things, and this goes back to...
And this squid sneaker looks like the poor version of the jellyfish.
Look, this is similar to the argument you are having, where the people behind the scenes
are dropping the ball because they're not relatable and they're not related to the culture.
When those conures were dropping, those shits were spreading like wildfire.
That's a fact.
They dumb down those conyers and made them at a better price point, thinking that
it was going to do something.
We haven't heard about Adidas since fucking Kanye left.
Nobody's out here wearing Adidas.
A6 then took over and new balance is going crazy.
Sokinis are going crazy.
Motherfuckers threw them yeasies in the closet
and never wore them shits again.
That's why I don't understand the move
because of what you're saying.
But I think that the numbers might represent something else.
Who's tied to Lewis Vitton,
he comes up with an amazing sneaker
and you don't even give yourself
six, seven, eight, nine months of this.
you come right back three months later
and put out the same sneaker for cheap.
But what might have happened?
How does it behoove you?
I'm about to tell you what might have happened
because we don't know Adidas numbers.
It's greed and short-term, short-term success.
But in the long run...
Joe, hold on. Let me finish.
Go ahead. Go ahead.
So let's just say the Kanye's were $300, right?
But now we put out these Foniers
and we're selling them for 100,
but we're doing crazy volume.
I made my money.
Yeah, so from a number standpoint, and you're only looking at analytics, it was profitable.
So now when Farrell comes and puts out the jellyfishes, we're going to put the squids out or the octopus or whatever of a shit at $80.
And if we sell a zillion of them at $80, then it still worked for them from an analytical standpoint.
They just not popping in culture.
Let me play Bima just because I love Bima.
Jellyfish, you five, P.
Adidas just cock block for Rale's jellyfish.
You finally made the first skateboard piece sneaker that.
actually matter since it's NMDs. And then what you do? You make damn near an identical duplicate
called the Adi Star XL BBL or whatever for half the price. It's like watching your collab
getting bootlegged by your own kinfo. I don't know who's more misguided. This strategy or that
Nike complex sneaker of the year list. Look, every product has a life cycle. You got height,
growth, maturity, decline. Smart brands stretch it. Adidas is collapsing it. Between 2016 and
2018, they released like 160 colorways of the NMD.
And yes, revenue spiked and then it went straight to the outlets.
Translation, they milked it to death.
This is a discipline issue.
You're chasing short-term revenue at the expense of long-term heat.
And so it's like we're witnessing a case study in poor product pacing.
You're training the customer to wait for the discount instead of buying into the dream.
There's a better way.
Like maybe design some distance so that the general release doesn't
look like the collab and then wait nine to 12 months before you do a takedown. That's how you scale
without self-sabotage. Now Cousis, is Adidas actually building equity or are they burning it
for quarterly gains? That is Beema Williams on Instagram, B-I-M-M-A. He is amazing. He's absolutely
amazing. He knows what he's saying. He's great at his following if you love this type of shit.
He's absolutely right. He may be. The only thing I would have to imagine they have some more
details on analytics than we do.
Exactly.
More people are buying.
He's saying,
you're projected.
I'm sorry.
I'm saying if I'm looking at this like,
all right, cool, we put these out.
We got everybody going crazy.
Now we're going to flood them,
come back with a cheaper version,
and people are going to buy them by their projections.
Why wouldn't you do that?
He's saying, yo, you're giving you,
you are taking short term gains over long-term heat.
A lot of these motherfuckers don't care about heat
or cultural relevance or any of that other shit.
They are caring about profits.
That's why it's important what you're saying
because that's the same conversation
that we have in music.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But in shoes, I guess.
It's the same conversation.
The same exact conversation.
The people in the backboard rooms
don't give a fuck about what y'all talking about.
They care about your classic.
Sir is going to take three to five years
to put out his quality music.
And Isish's AI Sleeper is going to model sir
and put out the fast food version.
of that every three months
for the people that maybe can't wait
or can't afford that because it's art
at a premium. But art should be at a premium.
I think art gets tricky when you're talking about
I guess you can make the same argument for music to some degree
a very hard line product.
Bro.
There's a...
Adida gave out.
There's a value in exclusivity.
What is the point of... I'm sorry.
Like, who is that? Ferrari
don't... You're not going to see the Ferrari commercial.
on TV.
This is Farrell, who just had the clips
at the Vatican, is
changing the way Louis
fucking does things, especially for
black people, how it's represented.
You cannot cheapen
what he is and what he means
to culture by taking his design
and selling it for crackhead prices.
Yes, you may make more money.
But long term,
is it wise, especially for a brand
that's so tied to culture,
for a brand that got their
They're pop from Run DMC
for a brand that every 10 years
you come right back to us
to rely on us to get you lit.
I think it's a horrible idea.
That's all.
I'm shocked they did it.
I only brought this up
because I'm super shocked at this.
I'm shocked.
What is the point of doing a deal with somebody?
Like for real, everything's saying about for real.
What is the point of doing something like that with him
just to do that?
Yeah, what's the point?
Is that the whole point to create this clamor
and create this thing where,
you know, it's this thing that you can't afford
and we're going to do the cheap version
and make this rush of money?
Yes.
I don't know.
That's stupid to me.
I guess money-wise is great,
but it's just stupid.
If the goal is dollars and cents,
and I created a demand
by working with Farrell while he's fish grease hot,
and we got a sneaker that's fish grease hot.
And now I know I can cut the price on that
and flood the block with it.
No.
And make my money.
Yeah, but you're absolutely right in what you're saying.
But what you just said was the goal is dollars and cents.
Yeah.
I am saying fundamentally,
I think it's a mistake.
if it's only dollars and cents.
You need to have more people in the C-sweet.
You need to have more people in the room.
Fuck the people that's just going to say,
if we do X, Y, and Z, we will make more
over the next two years.
We just spoke about how fucked up these companies
are we reading about layoffs every day.
Like, yo, it is dollars and six right now.
That's it.
Y'all niggas are too optimistic.
It's fucked up out there.
Y'all's companies out here laying niggas off
that's not even doing bad.
Like layoffs is the thing that you do.
Amazon laid niggas off.
48,000.
I didn't want to say them.
UPS was 48,000.
I'm sorry.
But I didn't want to say them,
but it's companies out here that are profitable,
that are doing well,
and they still layin'niggas off
because it can mean even more money.
So you're looking at this,
Adida shit, like, yo, y'all are
a fucking up in culture.
Nigga, they dividend was two euros.
Like, so if I got a million shit,
I don't give a fuck what you talk.
And what they do on purpose is
we're going to make this dope-ass sneaker exclusive.
We only put out 10,000 of them.
Great demand.
But now we're going to give y'all the B version
that's just overpopulated in the store.
So if you can't get the A version, you're going to get the B version.
I'm curious.
You have lost the office and signed felt at the expense of they came from outer space.
I don't know what that means.
I'm talking TV metaphors right now.
I just don't.
I don't know how to make that make sense.
But I understand what you're saying
I totally get it
I just don't know how to make sense of that
In my head go ahead more
If Ferrell would have said look
Listen hey we're doing this deal
And just in case you niggas on some bullshit
Y'all can't make no sneak that look like the one I just made
And I need that to be a part of the deal
So what you're saying they would have been refusing
Because that was always the long
Possibly we don't know
Kanye got so mad at them niggas
He told them niggas I want my own building
Where none of your people are
Because they jacking my shit
I want my own building over here
because y'all are taking my ideas dumbing down my shit
and I'm not getting no money from that.
Right. I've been stalking, I've been stalking this house on Zillow for the last two years.
It's a rendering.
It was just pictures.
Is this shit Corey called me about?
I don't know what Corey called you about.
All right, go ahead.
You think I talked to Corey?
But I've been stalking this house on Instagram.
The other day, I go to see the house.
Oh, you did go?
Okay.
The land.
No, he got sticks up.
He got half of the outside up, and it's just,
just sticks. It's just wood. But I walked through it. And he had pictures for every room so you
could see what was coming. You can see what was going on. He said this house will be done by April.
But this guy who he was awesome. I wouldn't shout him out now, but he was absolutely awesome.
His family has been developing in the greater parts of New Jersey for 30 to 40 years. He's the
son now. Parents got older. He's taking over the business. He's making his name from doing really, really,
modern quality
homes in places where
all of the old money exists
right so I'm talking to him
that's far
and he's telling me about all
this amazing shit he got
everything he needed to build this house came in
already I got my
marble from over here
he's showing me the pictures all these people
I'm dealing with are crim della
cream best of the best he's
I fuck with how he was talking so I start
asking him about all just some of the
houses I've seen, right? And it was this $16 million house in Englewood that they eventually sold
for $10 million that was all over TikTok. It was all glass. It was beautiful. And everybody that had
a dime was going to see this house. And I say, yeah, did you go see such and such house? Because
I went to see that house. And before I could finish the sentence, he said, it's disgusting.
Trash. It's horrible. You get these companies coming in that they're just going to slap up some
walls they're going to take a short on everything in there so the finishes are dusty it's all
garbage it's like an influencer it's like an influencer garbage that you're paying and he's like
if you're paying 10 million you're paying 12 million 18 million for a fucking house you're not trying
to walk in something where the finishes is done over here you can't even buy a lot if you buy
a lot then they assume that they're not selling a lot without selling the house that's not built yet
He was talking that shit
And I was like
Exactly
Because in that house
Everything was garbage
But if you don't know that it's garbage
If they're able to just put
The bullshit sink
And the bullshit this
And the bullshit that
Then there'll always be a market for it
That shouldn't impede
With the people that enjoy quality
Yes
Well the people that enjoy quality
That shouldn't impede with the people
Who have an eye
And an ear
And a hand
For quality shit
So what I'm saying is
You're losing your Ferrari
Audience because you want to put out
The fucking
I can't say here because that's lit
No you're not though
You're not
Hold on hold on
Yes you are
You are
You are losing them
And it's gonna build a house
Over there
Tell me
Take it back to the Adita shit
The person that wanted to spend the money
Got that that sneaker
The original jellyfish
The one who could afford it
That didn't blink at that price
The one who went on stock axe
who didn't care about that price got it
now the other person who
want to look like I got it but I couldn't afford it
they're going to get the B-Line same thing
with this company here you're sacrificing this
Seinfeld in the office
for perfect
strangers ice they put now
90 different not 90 but let's say
eight different color ways of the real deal
so yes homeboy went out and got the orange
ones that Freddy Giswold up here
we got eight other colorways of
premium exclusive shit
that you will never be able to sell
because the niggas that want to buy that
don't want to walk outside
and see 800 cheap colorways
of the shit they just paid for.
You are wrong.
So they're going to go get them.
You don't want to go get them.
We can't prove it.
No, I'm talking to court.
Yo, so this is the point.
There's an audience of people
that Ferrari appeals to.
And then there's a wide audience
of people that Honda appeal to.
They are not the same audience.
So I don't have to reach the Ferrari audience
if I want to sell Hondas and vice versa.
I don't have to reach the Honda audience
if I'm selling Ferraris.
That's why we don't see Ferrari commercials.
Let me finish, Joe.
I encourage you.
So when it comes to the house analogy,
you are looking at the house
from the perspective of a homeowner.
The other people are looking at the house
from a perspective of an investor
than a developer.
So the developer's bottom line is profit.
You looking at it because I'm moving in this house
so I want the best finishes
that money can buy.
These niggas say I want the best finishes.
That's looking finishes that money can buy because my profit is my overall objective.
And a lot of times when these niggas buy these high-end houses, they get in here and they
change shit anyway.
They got enough money to change the marble anyway.
This is the stock marble that we picked.
They're going to get in here and change the shit anyway because they got enough bread.
So if I could turn a $3 million, $4 million, $5 million profit, I'm not going to make my profit
$3.5 million to go get the marble from fucking flown in from Croatia.
I don't give a fuck.
So you're talking about it from two totally different perspectives?
You're talking about the Honda Accord owner and the Ferrari owner.
What's the jellyfishes are the Ferrari owners, and they're going to pay whatever they got to pay for that shit.
If every word you said was true, then I agree with you.
I only disagree because if Toyota, actually it's true.
Toyota right now, I saw it yesterday, is putting out a car that they feel like will rival the Bentley and the Ray.
Do you see that?
I show a car.
Keep going.
What I'm saying is, if that car comes out, it will affect how, let's call it,
race drivers feel about purchasing raves.
I'm coming.
Yo, exclusive.
We got to bring back the value exclusivity, y'all.
I agree with you in most part.
If I have a raf and I come outside and it's 30 of you niggas in the Toyota rave,
then you're going to get a different goal.
You don't have a rave.
That's the fucking that.
Yeah, I don't understand what the.
I don't get where the argument is either.
You know what the niggas gonna say?
It ain't this.
When you bought your Ferrari,
guess what you came in here in dissed?
And dist?
You diss Lamborghinis.
When you bought your Ferrari,
you came in here and diss Lamborghinis
because the niggas that know, no.
Well, I was probably dissing in Lamborghini before then,
but I remember what you're saying.
The niggas that know, no.
So the nigger that got a rafist,
like when they said the Christ with 300
looked like the Bentley or, no it fucking don't.
And the niggas that had a Bentley
laughed at that stupid-ass statement
because it didn't look like no Bentley
and you wasn't going even remotely pull up to this
and say, yo, we're here.
Hey, hold up, hold up.
I like that example.
Nigel, my defrauster clears the window like this.
They also stopped making that car shortly after.
But they sold a shit.
They also stopped making that car shortly after.
That's fine.
Look how many they sold.
Which one?
No, the $300.
The $300.
The expensive Chrysler.
The 300 C.
The 300.
The big, big, big, big, big,
the big, big, big, uh,
rolls worth that they don't make no more.
I don't really under...
I'm trying to get what you're saying.
I just don't think it's true.
I just think you're talking about two totally...
Yeah, you're just talking about two totally different targets.
Two different companies. Two totally different markets
of people that we're shooting at.
You understand what I'm saying? Again, Ferrari might make...
Adidas St. Ferrari.
2,000 cars a year.
Adidas St. Ferrari.
I'm not saying the Yard. But that particular Adida,
that's high priced...
Sure. Is in this analogy,
representative of Ferrari. But Adidas St. Ferrari.
Nike ain't Ferrari neither, but them Travis Scott's cost
$2,000 and everybody don't have them.
But they don't cost $2,000.
That's the aftermarket. You got to buy
him. You'll spend $2,000. Wait, wait.
Wait, wait. No, no, no.
That exclusivity and them putting out
a limited amount of Travis Scott is what
made them go to $2,000.
And it's, okay, I received what you're saying.
My response to that is
a smart company,
any company that has
boots on the ground.
Whoa, got my boots on the ground.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
With them fan that, with them fan that let your body move.
Hey, yo, if you had a fat ass, you might be a problem out there.
Now, I'm ready.
They're ready to take them on or down.
Please.
They're ready to take O yellow round back.
Oh, yellow.
Oh, yellow.
That's how you're going to kill me.
Oh, yellow.
Hey, you kill that food for shit.
Listen,
damn it.
Damn it.
Travis Scott.
He's crazy.
And I think Nike is in tune with culture.
I think that everybody that's what I'm saying.
I'm sorry.
What I'm saying is when I bought my Mayback during the pandemic from the aftermarket
with the aftermarket price.
Mercedes didn't see that and up the line on Maybacks they would put out.
Gotcha.
they saw that and modeled their business after the demand they were seeing from what was happening in the aftermarket.
I'm saying what Adidas is doing is the opposite of that.
They're seeing the demand for something, seeing the aftermarket price shoot up like the jellyfishes were, however many thousands of dollars, and they're eliminating it.
I'm saying a smart company would see it and work in conjunction with what the market is telling you about your product.
That's what I'm saying in closing.
they didn't eliminate the jellyfish right
they still have it
I feel like you're eliminating the jellyfish
by making a fake jellyfish
I don't wonder where jellyfish is
if we're standing next to each other
and you got to squint to see which one is the jellyfish
I don't want to wear it I don't want to wear what she got on
that's why I buy shit like that
to me there's nothing way to refute that I don't get it
I get the money part and all that but it's almost
like you're saying fuck one thing for another
at the end of the day
every money of his sneaks can be affordable
you can do that you can have an affordable sneaker
We're talking about Adidas.
They've been around forever.
And they've been like a big part of like American culture forever.
So I don't know.
I think that it has to be, I think that there's no way that if I go through all this shit
to get a pair of sneakers and y'all making something that close to it,
just like when they did it with the Yeezy, it just takes the fun out of.
You don't want to do it again.
So now we're taking the L of never being able to do the jellyfish thing again, no matter
because we know what you already do anyway.
You're going to just put out a replica.
All right, we'll close it up.
But real quick, I just want to say real fast, to the person that, like you said,
that got the jellyfish standing next to the person
that got the fake jellyfish.
Guess what?
Adita sold them both.
Right.
They don't give a fuck.
You're all missing it.
For you to keep saying that to what we're saying
tells me that you're talking past each other.
You might be missing it.
It's okay.
You're looking at the culture.
It's okay.
Can I ask the question?
Sure.
Why Sidney's Sweeney on the board?
Who's going to reveal their horny?
With a fan that.
I don't know what this means.
I'm getting nervous.
Huh?
You could say.
Could I think?
Yeah.
You know, he started off as R&B singer.
I sung before I rapped.
I don't know if I could do since that.
I definitely sung before.
He performed Apollo Allah.
He's a major.
I'm not being funny.
Seriously.
Normally I am, but I'm not.
Okay.
I used to be able to sing.
When I got shipped away to my board in school,
I learned violence, drugs, regrets, be in ease and shame.
Singing hit the back burner.
I started robbing people in houses.
And rapping and fucking rap.
Well, that's when I went away to,
rehab.
But yeah, I was smoking blunts
and then that led to dust
and the dust led to the robberies.
There was no time to sing
so I was rapping.
You still go hold it to me.
So I was right.
Witham fan.
I noticed that about your voice
even the way you do
an ad, like the way you throw your voice.
You're good at that.
Amani calls me Anthony Scramleton.
She's a sad of a joke.
Yeah.
That's my man.
Let me get back to my list.
Sidney Sweeney.
right.
What's a new day, man.
She appeared for,
she out of variety for varieties,
power of women of Los Angeles.
Okay.
It's a ceremony at the help
to celebrate powerful women in L.A.
Okay, all right.
And Sidney Sweeney showed up
in a gray number that
took the world by storm.
It was,
it was America's appreciation for white tities.
Sure.
She wore see-through dress.
It was the new J-Lo dress.
And I'm not, it was see-through, but it was just form-fitting.
It was titty's out.
Oh, Tis are out.
Yeah, okay.
It was nipples more than tities.
Nah, if the whole shape of the titty is out.
No, that's titty.
That's titty and nipple.
That shit was poked out.
Yeah.
She looked good.
Did y'all like it?
Yes.
I'm liking it right now.
I'll tell you double-tape.
Yes.
Well, let's stay on who liked it first.
Okay.
Me.
Me.
Which is interesting, right?
Because these little, these little white.
girls that shaped like white teenage boys if they were the right shit like because other pictures
of sidney i didn't feel like that this night her body it looked good in the dress it did i got to
get props we're proxed for context this the girl we debated about before with the good jeans air
from american eagle yada yada so now you're saying the she took that she took that stop took it through
the moon the rage bating work black people were mad but our response to this tells me
I mean, maybe we jumped the gun.
The bitch maybe got good genes.
I mean, listen, listen, man.
Now, we can continue to talk about Sidney's Sweetie's Titties.
And I want to leave an ISO for Ish who has an affinity for white tities different than the rest of us.
I don't, though.
You fuck with white tities.
I don't do that.
And I do, too, if they're right titty.
I'm not a titty guy.
White little perky tities you like them.
I'm not a titty guy, Joe.
Did you see the pictures?
I did.
Did you like it?
It was nice.
Because you ain't even really got to be a titty guy
to appreciate it.
You're a titty guy.
I'm not too.
She's been naked in TV shows and movies before, guys.
What?
You look.
Okay.
Flabbergasted.
Stop.
Because I don't like when he does this and I don't like when I employ him and he does this.
This is what I'm saying.
I'm posing a lot because you pay me?
Yes.
Hold it down.
I think, and I've said this before,
the right set of tities.
attracts men that aren't titty men.
That's true.
That is a fact.
I think that if you're just a man
and you see the right set of tities,
you appreciate the tities.
A thousand,
100% facts.
So I think that's what you're saying about me.
I'm not necessarily a titty man,
but I appreciate a nice set of titty.
He's saying that you are a titty man and you lying.
Then I don't know where he gets that from.
I've been an ass man my whole life.
You're a voluptuous man.
I like curves.
You like all of this shit.
It's not been.
one or the other.
You with all those curves
and me without no bricks.
Ooh.
Anyway, I can appreciate
Sidney's titty.
I think she looked great.
Indeed. She did.
My Sydney Sweeney take is not about
Sidney's Sweeney. It's about the advertising
I'm all ears.
Company?
Well, they were honoring
Sidney's Sweeney and Jamie Lee Curtis.
And Jamie Lee Curtis
went viral recently for her
ad for whatever movie that she was putting out where her cleavage was showing. Do you
all remember that? Oh yeah. Yeah. So it was a moment having Sidney
who had the biggest viral movement and changed the stock of that gene company and Jamie Lee
Curtis at the same time. Wasn't it the cap? I did go Google if Jamie Lee Curtis was married
to a man and she is. Yeah. She also has children. So let's say that. And I just said that I'm not
with pulling people out of closets
because I'm not.
This dude is crazy.
I had to look them up.
I wasn't.
For tities?
No, the ad.
I didn't, I wasn't familiar.
How do I?
Watch this.
What I'm saying to you is
I saw Jamie Lee Curtis
when she greeted Sidney
on the carpet.
And I saw the grab.
As a man, I always watch him.
the hand during the picture
and the cuff and the tightness
and Jamie Lee Curtis had it down
to a science. She might have did it
before. And then when Sidney Sweetie was
trying to go, Jamie Lee Curtis
was... She did the linger.
So, she looked back
like, text me, girl.
So I was like,
I think Jamie Lee Curtis
want to eat Sydney Sweet.
That's fucked up to say.
I mean, is it?
But I mean, shit.
Sometimes when you feel in a certain way as a dude
You can spot the girl that feel the same way you feel
Yeah
Also while I can appreciate a good set of
White Titties and Nipples
Rack
I am a chocolate milk guy
So Tiana happened to also be dressed
For the time 100 people
Some shit that she was being celebrated for
Okay
And she had on a blazer
Not no see-through shit
It was taped to yada, yada, yada.
I was like, God damn, Tiana looks amazing.
Her body is her body.
You already know.
You already know, Tiana, a friend to show.
I'm not looking at it like that, but Tiana is that for me.
So to get this, like, dose of Tiana and Sidney Sween, it's got to feel like when
Oreo double stuff put out the fucking, put out the chocolate and the white cream.
You say it's a good week for Tis.
This is a great week for Titties.
Why am I the only one talking about this?
Make some noise.
Make some noise.
You know, applaud for titties, man.
Well, there were some people booing those tities.
Who's tithes?
No one should ever booed tithy.
They weren't booing the tities per se.
Stop it.
They were booing that we could see the tics.
I'll take, Megan Kelly.
Sit down.
Sit down.
Sit down.
It's important.
No.
I'll tell you why.
Meg Kelly didn't booed the tities.
She didn't booed the tities.
She didn't booed the titty.
She booed the showing of the tis.
What she said is, she said, she said,
She said, Sidney was on the red carpet on Wednesday, and she decided to show off her number one asset, which, contrary to the American Eagle jeans ad, is not really her jeans. It's her enormous breasts.
That is it? I mean, that's true. She said, now, she did say the breasts were spectacular. Which are not really enormous either.
No, they're just nice.
Because this would be looked at differently if they were enormous. Right, that's true.
She said, and she said they were spectacular, but she also said, I object to this. I disapprove of the dress because it's completely see-through. You can see her entire nipples. She reminded me.
of Kim Kardashian.
And then finally she said
that she draws the line
at the ariola being visible.
So I'm reasoning it's not so much
because of what Megan said,
but to ask, are there titty display rules?
Well, there are.
And did she crossed the line.
To me, no.
No. No, society she did.
That was artsy titties.
Old, yeah, no.
That's artsy tities.
Just because they're big doesn't mean
that the same.
And they're not big.
And they're not very.
Even if they were small,
back in the day,
you don't show the areola.
They put that thing on it.
Is the ariola the rule still?
No.
I've always been against women having to cover the nipples.
I think it's stupid personally.
I mean, y'all show your nipples.
What's the big deal?
I feel like you're right.
If you want to show them, you show them.
As far as when you talk about red carpet events,
it's like, to be honest, a part of your brand,
your whole team works what you're going to wear on the carpet.
You're supposed to break the internet.
So if I'm doing that with a little titty,
unless it's not allowed to the point somebody's going to come and say,
hey, you need to cover that up or leave, it's a go.
I agree, ammonia.
Yeah.
If you have red carpet tities
and you decide to showcase them in that way,
it's worked every time.
It's worked when Lil Kim did it.
It's worked when Jaylor did it.
It's worked when Maryland and Road.
There's too many women that have done it
in a tasteful, classy way.
And I think a large part of that
depends on where you're going.
For these types of ceremonies,
yes, do it.
If you go into Stafford.
No, if you go on to the corporate Christmas party.
If you go to Harvard.
Now, if I go see through,
they might walk me out.
I thought you're going to say,
We're the nipples point, but...
You know?
Nah, you gotta go with the see-through fupa.
Nah, that's what I'm saying.
If I go see-through fupa long titty, they're going to actually leave.
No, the ready-nigger's gone.
Imagine it's going to be a group of niggas that's like, I love natural mother-Africa tities.
But for the most part, they're going to say go.
Those cities look good.
They're nice to cleaned up.
And she is Sidney-Sweeney.
Because of that big thing with American Eagle,
motherfuckers is waiting for her to be like, what's she going to do on the carpet?
You know?
Women know when they got tities that could go in that outfit and when they don't.
And they should be allowed to fucking police themselves.
Like, do what you want.
If you think your titty's gonna look good in that dress,
then by all means, please, have it.
Any time I've ever wanted to go see through,
I did it because I wanted to.
Like, it didn't really matter what the event was.
Also, again, both Jamie Lee Curtis and Sidney
have done a lot of nude scenes.
So this isn't like the most...
Oh, that's a good point, too.
This is regular.
Yeah.
And they're just tities, first.
Titties is dope, y'all.
Titties is dope.
Titties is dope.
He about to tell him himself that he had a titty man,
for real.
I'm not a titty man.
I'm a man.
You took it.
Who can appreciate great tits?
When Kanye wife was running around, that's his wife.
So with, or was his wife, so with respect.
And after I said all of my horrible shit about him and how they looked running around,
I did get to, she got a nice set of titty.
She did.
She did.
I think when you see a nice set of tities, there's nothing.
If you appreciate that, there's nothing that you can say besides.
Nice titty.
Those are a nice.
Those are nice.
You did that.
Those are nice.
Those are nice.
So she turned that shit upside down.
I don't save way too many
Sidney'sweeney pictures in my phone.
I didn't like too many
shit.
I don't found her on Instagram.
Then she went to the Dodgers game,
put the glizzy to her mouth.
Oh, Joe.
Then she went to the Dodgers game.
Put the glit.
My type of white bitch right there.
What the fuck are y'all talking about?
But the double glizzy with an old girl
or some white bitch.
You know white bitches get freaky on the nighttime at the Dodge game.
It's about some of my stuff.
Yeah, nigga.
I ain't going to allow nobody to talk that shit about Sidney's.
Let me pull up this fucking Dodger picture.
So y'all I'm pissed for Sydney, Sweden.
Your nigga is hate.
I'm not hating on her tinnies or her.
At all.
What are the best young actresses?
Look, look, look.
She's totally like, look.
Look.
Yes.
Messy white head.
She's a fucking free.
She's a freak.
What are y'all talking about with the glizzy right there?
She's looking at the top of it.
She knows what the fuck she's doing.
Shout to Sidney Swift.
I could tell when the white girl's my type of white girl.
I don't care what y'all talking about.
I ought to bid it enough spaces.
I'm about to shout them out, but I'm involved.
I can tell the white girls I want to party with.
When I get the ox, I go right to it.
It's a party.
It's a party.
It's a party.
It's a party.
It's a party.
White girl weighs down.
I got my white girl playlist.
Mad Miley.
Oh, you crazy?
Yes.
Yes, and Mali.
Miley and Miley.
Miley and fucking Miley.
You got a nice set of little perky white titty.
And I got money.
What the fuck is you talking about?
Nigger, yes, we're going to the after variety party.
Are you wearing that?
I might wear my see-through shit.
That's how we feeling.
I might give him my lace.
She's the fuck as you talk about.
She got some other shit for that after party.
Naga.
Thanks.
Ice.
It's a party, it's a party, it's a party, yeah.
I might play little John, nigga.
You know the freaky white bitch is like all that you.
You don't know they like it.
They like that shit.
It's like, get crunk in this motherfucker.
Hey, you know, mama, let me whisper in your ear.
Say you a little something like that.
I like the gay.
And da-da-da-da-dha-ha-ha-ha-da-da-da-da-da-n-n-n-ha.
When you see my dick.
What?
That song is made for Siddy, sweetie, little white tinnies.
Nigger, where you see this black dick.
What the fuck are y'all talking about it?
Everybody in here know when they catch the vibe with the little fly white freaky joy.
Give it to me, babe.
Rick James.
Huh?
On Halloween, that's what we pop these white bitches.
It's, y'all.
Why are you what you in?
You can't sign me.
Halloween night.
Y'all know that's when we pop these types of bitches.
That's a good night for white people.
I'm lying.
It's a good night for white people.
I'm lying.
Halloween in New Year.
Y'allon.
Yeah.
New Year's Eve.
That's a good night for white girls.
Yes it is.
We bar hopping on, look over there well unsuspecting.
She don't even know.
Yeah, we know.
Hey, yo, and the niggas that do this.
Are you crazy?
Oh, man.
What are you think white girl wasted came from?
Oh, we're in the corner with a perky tini by herself.
Her ride left left, she's telling strangers.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
My ride left.
I am stranded.
That's where I-e-com.
That's what I'm going to pull a van out.
You pull a van up on these.
Pull-a-a-a-a-a-down.
I got this cribbed.
I'm trying to refurbish.
Bitch.
You can stay over there for the back.
All I want to do is see them
little perky white tetties.
I ain't going to do that to you.
That sound crazy.
That sounds nuts, man.
That's a little bit.
My bad.
Perky white titty.
You're crazy.
This nigga is insane.
Hello.
He's really got you turned up.
He crazy.
Hello.
White titty.
There's some.
He did some.
Hello.
And they wear them shirts
The bitches I'm talking about
They look at their city
Swedish shirt like another Wednesday
Bidges I'm talking about
Where that shit, nigga, they go in the right
To urban outfitters
Where the shit, they go to skims
These bitches are going outside
And lingerie with pants with jeans, nigga
What are you talking about?
They don't make shirts these bitches wearing
No, yeah
All right
You know, I roll
Get this nigga
He all worked up.
Give up paper towel, juice. God damn.
Maybe I'm a Titty guy.
Yeah, baby.
Baby, Joey, baby.
Look what Titties can do for the world.
Titties can solve all the world's problems.
Tiddy's got him turked up.
This guy's nuts.
You guys, see me during fucking sex.
I close my eyes just to keep opening them and see him tics.
Naga, I'd be like this on the bottom.
Oh, shit.
What?
I'm fucking making shit.
The new Eschisketz, nigga.
Are you fucking crazy, nigga?
Will you close your eyes?
And you fucking open up again?
Big-ass-haired fucking eggs.
Like a fucking child, nigga.
I'm a kid with some shit.
The fuck are you talking about?
What's the wrong with you, sir?
What's happening?
Wait till the educated community
gets over.
It's over for me.
They got Mark up there talking about
tities.
White tities at that.
Right.
But after like, why do you think I'm a titty man?
Right.
Why would I be?
Right.
Why would I be?
Why about this?
All the niggas that bought Kanye first shit and turned the drunken, hot white girls know what I'm saying.
That's the third album.
Oh, stay still.
Still, still a pie.
Well, the first album was that workout shit.
Yeah.
That work out.
Who do you think that was more?
Big Titty white girl.
Well, she said it in the song.
I'm from Mobile, Alabama.
Exactly.
Exactly.
All right.
Take it away.
I'm done.
I bought a double-wild.
We got a show.
We might have did it.
Yeah, I think he did it.
There's no top of that.
Yeah.
That was great.
Yeah, well, how can we go behind that?
Go out of the high note.
Fuck.
That was a good one, nigga.
Sidney Swinney.
Her tities.
I did not see that coming.
Not at all.
I didn't, I just asked my Sidney was on the board.
God damn it.
Got a classic.
He showed you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, listen.
Shit's like that.
Yeah.
No, it's some good titt.
Yeah.
Some good titt.
You gotta go see you.
He's going to go see Euphoria now.
She was in it?
Yeah.
Yo, and I fix a business combo.
You said you wanted to move it to an artist?
I'm out of breath.
Don't you just.
All right.
I'll come up for me.
Yeah, you should be.
Titty's got you done.
And I fixed a business combo, Joe was talking about moving it to an artist.
Todd Dallisand's first week numbers came out,
and they were really, really, really, really.
really low.
Okay.
For him.
How low?
How low we're talking?
$7.9,000?
8,000, right?
Yeah, $8,000.
Call it $8,000.
Yeah, $8,000 in first week.
And we're trying to find out what's, like,
what's the problem?
Marketing.
I had no idea that album came out until a week later.
That's the thing I keep running into
with these artists that have low weeks.
Like when Tyler came out, other people,
it's like, oh, wait, there was an album?
Oh, wait, there's just no marketing
for some of these acts.
And I think they're riding on their name
and thinking that people are just going to do it.
Rely too much on Instagram.
And Instagram, if you look at most people's analytics
that I've talked to at least,
is very fucking low, let alone click-through rate
on the people that actually see your shit.
Like, you can't just post something on Instagram
and people are going to go out and buy the album.
You know what I think it is, too?
A lot of them are used to the label doing more.
That's true, too.
Like now with the labels being in disarray,
all the shit that's going on,
the artist is thinking, you know, I do my usual one too.
I post here, I do whatever, whatever.
Yeah.
And y'all take care.
of the rest. The world knows my albums come.
I damn near thought Todd Dollar Sign dropped
as an independent. I had
the check to make sure this was still Atlantic. Oh, it was?
Yes. Oh, wow. There's been
no single. Well, no, there was a single. I'm sorry.
But there's been,
you haven't even seen him. Right.
Like, when your album is coming
out, you got to get outside and do something. Yeah, you got to go sit down
with some pods, tell some stories,
do something, anything, literally anything.
I mean, not just to take it off him, you got to actually work.
Yeah.
I don't hear y'all fixing them, though.
So the fix,
I always said Tidal-A-San was known more for his features than his albums anyway.
I caught hell up here for that.
That first album was a classic damn near to me, though.
Still.
Free T.C.
Is that what it was?
Yeah, free T-C was.
Still, I just have him more as a feature artist.
As far as fixing him, I think standing next to Kanye like that hurt.
Probably.
So in terms of the fix, you got to walk back some shit, bro.
Oh, he's publicly said that he didn't fuck with condoms and saying certain shit.
No, he said I don't fuck with hate speech.
Fixed tie dollar sign.
One writers is a reason why we enjoy him on these features more than we enjoy him on his own songs.
Those songs have writers.
He getting in the studio, probably just writing his own shit.
Going off his own vibe.
You don't think he wrote his hopes?
No A&R.
What he featured?
I think I can, I think it sounds like there's no A&R on his project.
It sounds like there's no nothing on his project.
It sounds like these are leftover joints from him and Kanye.
And I'm a fucking Todd Dollar fan.
So it did that, then it deserved to do that, right?
I know, but we want to fix him because we know he's talented.
We know his brand is there.
We know people like him.
He has the appeal.
But when it comes to his solo music, it's just not hidden like his features.
writers number one for me
number two he's an EDM act
for the rest of his career
I'm taking him away from you niggas
that's where the money is
I'm putting him with Calvin Harris
I'm putting him with some of the big
techno DJs that can repurpose
his old joints
I just heard a new edium version
of Rihanna Kiss It Better
Rihanna who ain't seen a studio in 20 years
and it sounded all the way fire
I'm putting Todd Dollar in that mix
he's one of the only people that could do that
have a presence they love hip hop
I'm doing that for sure.
I'm going to be more consistent
if I'm Tide Dollar Sign.
All of this at one album every five years shit
that's not going to cut it.
That's not going to help you cut through all the noise.
What else?
I'm going outside if I'm Tadala sign.
He's been outside.
No, I mean...
He don't be talking.
These niggas just be outside.
What I say outside, I mean popping up talking.
I'm being visible.
You're going to hear from me, not just music.
I want to sit down and do interviews.
I got to put something that the people could gravitate to.
Or if you don't want to,
back to the fucking Daniel Caesar Romani argument.
Go just be an amazing because he can play.
He can play bass guitar.
You can play instruments.
And he can sing.
Go do that shit somewhere.
And the millions of platforms where they let you do it.
Todd Dalla, I agree.
Or just outside.
He need to hit the grassroots.
Go do the In the Porch series.
Yeah, one.
Yeah.
Go do the in the Cadillac series.
Right.
Go do the homegrown nigger grassroots shit
that's helping people connect to their audience.
Tadala, I think, is just,
used to major label, big budget, feature, pay me, big video,
and then you're going to connect with the vibes.
I think we're past that time.
That time is done now.
You have to actually go out and show people why they should fuck with your brand.
And it starts and ends with you.
Not your team, you.
I wish Todd Dollar nothing but the best.
Of course.
I was disappointed in those numbers when they came back,
but I was also halfway disappointed in the album as a huge Todd Dollar sign fan.
So I hope he gets it together.
we don't have to wait another six and seven years to hear him and he has all my him not even
coming up here he's supposed to come up here he canceled the shit he went around and i know i say this
all time but nigger we us yeah we are we are y'all y'all are us come up here and talk to talk
to your people don't let me just monopolize this fucking audience on some self-sonnish shit come up here
and use it please maybe do some streams with the street with people they slide through the
they're talking about saying that on the fix of business go sit with playboy man
I don't want
I don't want him doing that anyway
Kyle will fix it for you
I don't want them doing that
They sick on saying that
in the business segment
We've said it four times
We gotta actually fix some shit
I don't know
Go-Pro called Kai Sanat
You gotta get your GoPro
with Playboy Max
and the streamers
They ain't a bad plan though
I wish you can't
It can't be the
It can't be the
It's a band-aid
But that also could be the same
kind of things
that we're looking at now.
We were just talking about
with like Instagram
and all these other things
that are back to the billboard charts
all that shit
where how much interaction
really comes from that.
All right.
That's a good point.
Do y'all care about
BMF canceling?
Getting canceled after four seasons.
I feel like this was a nothing burger
and everybody knew this was going to happen
if you followed the 50 cent
Meach.
That's what it felt like.
This is just the natural.
If you watch the show,
you kind of wanted BMF to get this over.
Yeah, last week.
Like, come on, dog.
I've been coming in here telling you, like, all right, enough.
And does anywhere, lastly, I'll save whatever else I have for Patreon.
Lastly, does anyone here care about Trump beginning to test nuclear weapons?
Oh, my God.
I mean, I care.
Whoa, whoa.
I say no in the sense that there's no surprise.
And the U.S. is always testing nuclear weapons, even when they don't tell you they're testing nuclear weapons.
So them saying that they're testing nuclear weapons signals something, but I think a lot of time it's a
power flex. And that's, you see a lot of legal. I think that's all Trump
be doing is be up there, like, you know, put a press release
about something that's been happening or I'm already doing it.
And make it look like I'm doing some shit. And to
that's scary, that, that is scary to me. I'm sorry.
You know, I think it's wrong. The U.S. testing nuclear
weapons I'm at peace with.
Trump testing. I don't feel the same. I don't think
it's the same thing. I feel. I feel. I get why. I think
he's been testing. But we're not. We're last to that party.
Yeah. We're last to that party.
Yeah. And that's all I'm saying. Yeah. I don't feel
any more unsafe than I did last week.
Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. I just think he talks about
the shit behind the curtain. Like he just,
he don't give a fuck. I'm just going to tell it.
Yeah. And which is why a lot
of people didn't want him in there. When it makes him
look powerful or great. Of course. Of course.
But I'm just saying a lot of, where a lot of other
presidents were doing that, just
we don't like to blowback from it.
I'm not sure that anybody wasn't
testing nuclear weapons in this country.
They always are. But some presidents,
and we saw us in North Korea with Kim Jong-El
and then eventually Kim Jong-un,
Sometimes they do
nuclear display.
They do displays of weapons, of weapons testing
as a way of showing, look how powerful
or look how mighty we are.
We're still in control.
Still got my hand on the wheel.
And I think that's what Trump is doing.
He's taking a page out of the fascist
or the despot leader book,
which he is.
So it makes sense.
Before we go, Mark, we got one week left
in the New York mayoral race.
Yeah, less than that.
I know you've been glued to this the way
I've been glued to it.
I'm still indeed glued to it.
Along with that Trenton,
governor's shit.
That shit got you in a chokehold, them commercials.
I'm finally seeing the other side's commercials.
Right?
Like, I've seen nothing but Jack Chittarelli is a shithead.
This week, I've seen the woman that he's running up against and what he's saying
against her.
Jack Chirrelli, you're done, buddy.
It's over.
Mikey, Sher.
Home girl.
You familiar with her?
He tried to say some compelling shit, but it didn't work.
It didn't work.
Trent, if you listen out there, as a New Jersey.
resident for most of my life
with the key to mad New Jersey cities.
I'm not voting Jack
Chitterelli. Fuck out of here.
But the New York shit.
Some uneducated takes for me.
Uneducated takes for me.
Eric Adams, you like a sucker
standing by in Cuomo. You do.
Yeah, you do. He looks so
soft back there because of his
because I heard him. The bravado,
I heard what he was saying.
But Eric Adams do look like he's
having private calls with Trump and
being kind of...
It looks like that.
To my uneducated political opinion, it looks like that.
So you look nuts back there, Eric Adams.
What else?
What else?
What else?
I'm still laughing at the Curtis Leeward commercials.
Yeah.
Classic.
But it appears that Mom Donnie is going to...
If we're going by the looks of it...
It's a done deal.
I mean, it looks that way.
Yeah, it's been a done deal,
but then there was this moment where people worried
that the Adams' withdrawal could lead to enough votes.
But Curtis Leeward didn't pull out.
which honestly means that Republicans are going to vote Republican.
It's hard to get Republicans, people who register a Republican in New York to vote independent.
They're Republican for a reason.
Do you think it makes a difference if Slee would drops out?
Or if he dropped out?
If he had dropped out at the exact moment that they wanted him to,
which was when Adams did, it would have been a competitive race because then what would happen is
those numbers don't add up to Mounde's, but what does act,
when you start to see people say, oh, wait, you can win.
Oh, we'll dump more money into your campaign.
Oh, there'll be bigger ads.
They'll take more risks.
They're not taking no risks on Cuomo because it's too big of a...
Well, bigger ads historically have meant bigger turnout.
Yes.
Right?
This race, again, my very uneducated opinion, seems to come down to, and even just
watching the commercials and some of the debates, I think New York is just too expensive
for people to not go mom-dome.
I think that's right.
See, I think New York just costs too much.
So his message of hope and the time that it comes at
versus what Trump is trying to do with
Blue States versus Red States,
I think it's just a perfect gumbo right now.
I think New Yorkers are going to surprise people.
I think that Cuomo has a bigger dog in this fight
than people think.
And I think that whether the Republicans
are going to come forward and say they rocking with Curtis Sleeva,
I don't think majority of the Republicans will vote fam.
I think the majority of the Republicans
are looking for,
to vote for Cuomo and they can mask it however they see fit, but only you in the booth
when you go vote.
What do you say to the people that say that the New York we're seeing is Cuomo's New York?
Currently?
Yeah.
I think they're wrong.
I think this is Eric Adams is New York.
I don't think this is Cuomo's New York.
But these prices and shit, the main things that are in contesting.
Yeah.
We have been here since Cuomo.
Yeah, before.
They've been here before Cuomo.
True.
This ain't a Cuomo thing.
Cuomo don't do this to New York City.
New York City has been ridiculously.
expensive. When did Cuomo take office to New York?
Because I don't know that to be
true. When did he get there? When he was governor?
He became governor. I don't know.
Somebody just Google it quick while we continue to conversation.
New York has been expensive since
where. When is it? When do you feel like you can pinpoint
that turn and I don't want to regionalize us out?
I'm telling you that since
we were children, New York has been highly.
Oh, okay. No, but I think that's the point.
I think it's just right, but I think that's the point is that
Cuomo is the status quo.
2011. And I think that and I think that this is what
Oh, yeah, I disagree that.
Look, this is what I don't like in politics.
I don't like in politics where people start quoting shit,
and this is what Trump did.
I don't like in politics where people just start saying the correct shit to say,
but they can't physically do the shit.
Donald Trump went on TV and told everybody, y'all fucked up,
y'all poor, y'all broke, I'm empathizing with y'all,
and I can change it.
And he can't.
And I think this is what Homeboy's doing.
I think Homeboy's saying some of the same shit.
I think he's saying, yo, I'm going to give the buses for free,
and I'm going to do all.
You cannot do that.
And I think you're promising people's shit that you can't do
and you plan on people's desperation.
And I think that shit is whack when politicians do it.
I don't give a fuck what side of the aisle they're on.
And we're calling it out for Trump, lying the motherfucker saying,
I'm going to make groceries cheaper and I'm going to make housing cheaper
and I'm going to make all of these things cheaper.
He can't do that.
He don't possess the ability to do that.
I think that homeboy don't possess the ability to do some of the shit
that he's saying he's going to do.
That's true.
And I think that that's whack.
I think that that's true.
At the same time, I also don't think that New York was this way in 2011.
and I'm saying this as someone
that is not so politically inclined
just as someone living
out here
you can see where there's not a home
for middle class people in New York
more evident than ever before
to me. I think that's been a topic on this podcast
for a little while as a podcast
that ain't in the politics.
And that happened. And that happened.
We just got more money now
so we're looking at more shit now. I've been
in the real estate game since 2003.
New York has been high as giraffe pussy
back then.
But we're not talking about real estate-
I'm talking about
but cost of living
the major expenditure
that most people have
is rent or mortgage.
So that's everybody's
biggest bill across the board.
Right?
So if your rent in New York City
in 2011 was $3,500
or $3,000,
my nigga, the cost of living
is high as shit.
That's just,
wham, that's just number one.
Cost of rent.
And that's most people's
biggest bill.
So you can't say
that it wasn't as high
maybe in the last few years
it's gotten
the gap between rich and poor
is growing a lot
but that's not just because of New York
that's because of jobs
that's because of technology
that's because of outsourcing
and all that other shit
on his real estate conversation
everything is more expensive
as someone who lives in New York
who has apartment shopped in the last
apartment shop all the time
really crazy
it's much more expensive than it used to me
that being said everything is much more expensive
than it used to be
that's what I'm saying
yeah I
yeah that's for sure
I think Mumdani has some things
within his power
some things he can't
But I think having a vision, a progressive vision
for what the city could look like is in it.
And what he's, yeah.
I think that means.
I think people need hope.
I think people need plans.
I agree.
Actionable plans.
I think making buses free as possible.
He didn't say he's gonna make all of public transportation free,
but buses, I think you can make for me.
When you look at his plan, I think it seems doable.
So when you make buses free and then they lay off mad MTA workers
because they're not being as profitable as the MTA once was,
and then we gonna bitch at that.
Like yo dog, I just think that.
But that's not what he's, that's not what he's not, that's not, I'm just giving you an example.
But it's not an example.
This is a real thing.
That's what I'm saying.
What part of his plan do you find unworkable?
I don't think that he could possibly make the buses free in the city.
Well, how's he proposing to do it?
I don't know the, I don't know the ends and outs.
How do you know he can't do it?
That's what I feel like he's given reasons.
He said, I mean, I don't mean to cut you off.
Go ahead.
I think that what you are going to propose is going to have kickbacks.
And I think when you propose these things, again, to whatever policy, bro, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a realist,
number one. And then
I think finances
play a part in everything. And so I think
when you start doing, taking money from
here, the money got to come from someone.
And where's he proposing to take it from? I don't know.
Then how, okay,
I would only say respectfully that we should at least look at the plan.
Before we say it can't happen, we should at least see what he's asking.
Because what he's saying to take it from, and you might
still disagree, but I just think it's better to know
his plan before we say the plan can't work.
That seems fair. True.
He's saying that raising corporate taxes,
he's saying more aggressively collecting unpaid bills from elites,
particularly like water bills and things like that.
So he's not saying take from this public source
that's getting funded and put it over there.
He's saying this money does not be being collected
that can be more aggressively collected,
and he's saying that there are people who aren't paying their fair share
at the highest levels.
Now, I'm not saying there's not a consequence to every action has a reaction,
but I do think, at least the financial experts,
I'm not a financial expert, so I can't say.
But the economists that I know who've looked at,
and the financial experts I know who've looked at it
have said that this is a workable plan.
buddy there could be a large a large portion of people that think that his ideas are not doable and sound preposterous
there's a lot of people that just like someone with new ideas true and that i.e. Donald Trump
Cuomo just keeps saying he never had the job so he never had a girl he don't have experience he don't
and that I just don't think it's enough for savvy New Yorkers I would I'm not disagree with you but when
you start talking about the corporate the corporate be going to make the
corporations pay more taxes?
Everybody in this room, I hope, knows that
corporation pay no taxes.
So unless you're going to go restructure
the entire tax system... That's what he's proposing.
He's saying raising the corporate tax rate.
Cool. And the powers that be are not going to...
We're going off on the tangent.
No, that's the exact point.
The powers that be run New York.
Not him. The powers that be run
the United States of America, not him.
The powers that be run the world, not him.
Or these smaller people that have these
huge, monstrous ideas. And so when
The heartbeat of New York is corporate America.
And so now when you start beating up the heartbeat of New York,
it's going to be pushback.
And I don't think that he's going to be able to deliver on that, is what I'm saying.
If he does, he does.
I just don't.
I think it's a far.
I wouldn't say that.
I wouldn't go that far.
But I call it a farce.
But I do think that his overall agenda is a progressive one.
And some of it can be an actor.
You used the Trump example.
Trump wasn't able to build a wall.
I know. Trump told the niggas in West Virginia
he's going to bring coal back. No, no, but hear what I'm saying.
They voted for him. No, but hear what I'm saying.
But the person who wanted Trump to build a wall
had a certain vision of what the world should look like.
And that vision is being enacted in policy.
So maybe like only half of what they want
that he promised, or even 25% what he promises there,
but it's still moving in a different direction. The country's
still moving in the direction that they want now.
And I'm saying similarly with Mumdani,
let's say he doesn't make buses free,
but public transportation gets cut in half.
Let's say we don't lower the price of rent,
but rent control gets stabilized in more places.
This is still a different direction.
And I think for a lot of people,
it's not just I'm saying the shit you want to hear,
which I agree would be, like, empty.
But I'm saying he's actually moving us
in a different direction, and that's helpful.
I agree with you on the Trump point, but it's two-faceted.
So the Trump point where he appeals to the idea
of these elitist or these racists or whatever,
that is definitely moving in the right direction.
But he also appealed to the desperation of the American people,
and he has not delivered on that.
And a lot of people voted for him
based on that particular thing.
The people with the wall and the ice,
they did.
He doing what they want him to do.
But over here, these motherfuckers that he appealed
to them saying, yo, I'm going to fix groceries.
He has not done a fucking thing.
I'm going to lower gas.
He has not done a fucking thing.
I'm going to bring jobs back to America.
He has not done a fucking thing.
And those are the things that got him elected to me.
Right.
And that's because some of those things to your point
are outside of Trump's control, right?
The things as a mayor of a city
that he's proposed, I think, are much more actionable.
If Mundani were running for governor or president
with the same proposals, I'd say, well, no, you know, this isn't doable.
But mayors have been able to affect rent.
Mayors are able to affect roads and they're able to affect housing.
And I think that this is an opportunity.
But I mean, we'll obviously see, because I think he's going to win
and we'll find out.
But I think it's possible or at least doable.
I don't think he's selling pie in the sky
and a great buy and buy.
We'll see.
Because this is New York.
This ain't my fucking, this ain't a regular city,
A lot of them rich New Yorkers, they wanted their shit to count in Florida.
So they're doing their 50, and for tax reasons, a lot of the most influential New Yorkers,
they're not voting in New York.
They're voting in Florida.
So that's also a really important thing to think about in terms of who's going to make this thing happen.
But anyway, we'll find out.
In closing, do you see Cuomo winning?
No, I think, I just think it's going to be tighter than what people think.
I think Curtis Lewa is a joke to most of the New Yorkers.
I don't think he has the Republican vote.
I think Cuomo has the Republican vote.
And Malcolm, you think, Malcolm?
Yeah.
That is Malcolm.
I think Lewell gets the majority of the Republican vote.
I don't see any way where he doesn't.
Who do you see winning?
Mum Donnie by 60%.
Got it, got it.
Especially if Leewell gets the Republican vote,
he's going to wipe the board with everybody else across the thing.
We'll see.
Slee will keep posting pictures of him from 84.
It's over him.
We don't care nothing about that little hell's angels.
That hat you keep wearing.
Guardian angels.
Guardian, yo.
Don't disrespect the hell's animals.
Angels.
Yeah.
If he walked around
being guardian angel
today, these little niggas
Angels
Angels,
guardian angels,
Victoria's Angels.
Show you some
Angels.
California Angels.
Yeah, yeah.
All of the angels.
Really good part today.
Ice, before we leave,
Disney pulls
from YouTube
all of their shit,
which is FX,
National Geographic,
ABC.
From YouTube TV.
From YouTube TV.
From YouTube TV,
from channels.
Yes.
Close us out.
Yeah, I got the email
actually last night
because I actually
subscribed to YouTube
TV.
Oh, you got it too?
Yeah, they don't.
I've had it out of it.
You don't have YouTube TV-ish.
Go ahead, freeze.
Yeah, they just said they couldn't.
He can't have nothing.
He's like, I got to run the water.
He's like, no, fuck you don't get up.
You got to fucking run the water.
And then they say, yo, he always competing with Joe.
He wanted to be like Joe.
Okay.
That's a good one.
Yeah, they just, they say they couldn't come to terms.
And what's happening is, what happened was happening
is ESPN has their own app.
I want you to come here.
So I'm going to charge you out the ass to go over there.
You know, to license it to y'all, I'm going to put an astronomical number.
Yeah, the company's going to say, now we're not going to pay that.
Okay, cool, we don't want you to pay that.
Now, everybody that wants to watch.
All of that.
Bring it on over here.
They've already consolidated their apps.
They got Disney, Hulu, and ESPN in one hub now.
So yeah, I want you to come here.
It makes it.
It makes all the sense of the world.
If you got YouTube TV, you can't screw right now.
You can't see your ABC affiliates.
You can't watch sports.
You can't do a lot of stuff.
So I think they're going to come to terms because I think Disney got them where they want them, to your point.
But until then, you got to.
Y'all got to you got to.
Is the World Series?
Can y'all see the World Series?
I don't watch baseball.
You don't watch baseball.
You don't care.
But I have everything anyway.
Yeah, Toronto, right.
Getting busy.
They're on the brink as of this conversation.
Yeah, I don't want to date this podcast.
but they got to show up tonight, the Dodgers.
I think I've accepted that I, as a Philadelphia and I hate the Toronto Blue Jays
because of what they did to us back in 93.
I can't get over that Joe Carter home run.
The entire league would be happy if the Blue Jays win.
And I had to accept that because I can't, the Dodgers put us out, but.
I came and hit all the day and said all the Dodgers cheating.
Like the Dodgers were viewed as this powerhouse unbeatable.
They swept us last year, right?
We won a game.
won a game that's my dad too yeah yeah that that's not good if you do that to the
Yankees on the biggest stage it's bad for the parody of baseball you want the
team that doesn't have this fucking no salary cap in baseball no so you want the
team that is built like a baseball team to beat the team that has spent the
nine hundred gazillion dollars yeah exactly exactly anytime the super team makes it
to the finals yeah that's such bullshit because when New York was building the
super team ain't no New York can say that
But the rest of the world did.
The rest of the people did.
We were all pissed.
We were all pissed.
First we were happening, Boston built their own kind of super team.
And then the Mets built their super team, but didn't work.
And then it was like, okay.
No, the Yankees have been building one for 20 years.
Well, that's what you're saying.
What you're saying?
What y'all saying is not fear.
When the Yankees were doing this when George Steinbrenner was alive,
he was saying, I'm not doing anything that other teams cannot do, right?
Okay.
When he died, began bidding on players.
which changes everything.
It does, but...
That's not just a salary cap.
We've all got the same money,
which was a lot too,
because we all don't have the same money.
If you have your own channel,
New York has more money.
Steinbrenner always had more money.
The Mets weren't even winning
and they had more money.
Exactly.
Markets have more money.
But today, when we're doing
blind bids on
superstar Japanese players
and Dominican players,
it's not just Japanese players,
yeah, your money don't really matter at that point.
Yeah.
And I hope we get back to the point
where farm systems matter.
How you money don't matter at that point?
Yeah, I disagree.
It's a blind bid.
You're rich, I'm rich.
We can all do the same thing.
You can't see nobody.
You can't see nothing that nobody is doing.
Okay.
Yeah, but like if you look at the blue.
So if you want this guy, right?
Like this new Japanese prospect,
I wish I could get his name right now,
but I don't have it.
Everybody's going to bet the house
because of what's going on.
Like we're in the middle of something.
But when Homeboy went,
the Red Sox was short by half of many millions.
The Yankees were short for the,
And these are franchises in major cities
that also have all the money in the world.
We're just not doing it.
We can't see.
We're not willing to go that far.
So it's how far are you willing to go?
The Dodgers brought in new management,
I mean, new ownership,
fucking magic in all these niggas.
They're just going to operate differently.
And they've seen the result of that.
If I know my opponent got a lot of bread
and I got a lot of bread,
I'm going to shoot for the moon.
Right.
But put a number of, even if you can afford it.
Also, what's not fair
not to interrupt on fuck with that.
Also, what's not fair is,
is when the bid for Otani was going,
what was happening,
what they were saying in baseball circles
was this is a done deal for the Dodgers already.
He's not willing to go to any other city.
Japan is right there.
He's close to the home.
We're in LA.
It's just unfair on levels that have more to do with just money.
Exactly.
I mean, I think every team has a,
and if it were basketball,
where you've got 12 guys
and one player can really kind of change the whole franchise,
I think it's easier for the smaller market team
to stay in the mix.
But in a baseball team,
I mean, first of all,
rarely is the guy pitcher
and an offensive play.
and a position player, right?
But even if they were, if you're Milwaukee, that's a good example.
The Brewers are an excellent baseball team.
Well-structured, great line of one through nine, strong bullpen.
But they ain't got the money that the Dodgers have.
They don't have the money that the Yankees or the Mets have.
They could bid for an old tiny type player.
It's a cap.
But yeah, but it's an informal cap because then what you're going to do with the other positions
as they age out, whereas the Dodgers can have four of those.
The Phillies, we got three guys.
You know what I mean?
When we got Bryce Harper, we didn't blink.
You know what I mean?
Yankees and Mets don't blink.
I think, and we're still looking at it to step up.
So I still think...
You think there needs to be a salary captain baseball?
No, no, I don't think so.
So then you can't bitch about the unfairness.
You either can have it one way or another.
Y'all not responding to everything.
Listen to that.
You're saying, you're not just talking about the money.
I know, you're saying it's unfair stuff,
but all of the unfairness that you based everything was on money.
That's not true.
Like, you based on...
L.A. being right there about Japan.
That ain't L.A. fault.
That's true.
Like, certain niggas don't want to go to play for the
the bucks.
They don't want to be in Milwaukee.
They prefer to be in bigger markets, larger markets.
Yeah.
Houston, I mean, not Houston, Texas.
Florida, they don't have state taxes.
It's other things that go into where somebody wants to go to play.
But you're making the point.
That can't be solved by salary cap.
No, those things can't be solved by salary cap.
But I'm saying for the Eon,
you just said that New York,
based on demo, has more money than smaller market teams.
I'd like to be creative about it.
I understand what you're saying.
We got a channel.
Yeah.
And it's New York City.
We could charge more for a ticket in New York City than we could charge for it in.
I don't, I don't, I guess something's, I don't want to cap players money as a solution to this.
I don't know, I don't have a solution off top of my head of how to fix this,
but I would imagine there's something other than a salary cap that we could think of
that would allow at least these elite players to not keep going to the same three cities.
Or do you put a rule in play?
That's what I'm saying.
I can't have no more than two.
That's the kind of thing I'm talking about.
Two Max players or whatever you want to call.
That's what I'm saying.
That would be a perfect example of how to do it.
So we'll figure it out.
Got it.
And Max.
This ain't Lil' Kim Mona.
I was about to start spittance.
Look at Mona.
I don't want dick tonight.
Look at Mona.
Want him ready, love.
Eat that pussy right.
Hey.
That nigga pop feet.
You.
Last week.
On.
Real good episode today, real, real important.
If you ever thought this song was about anal sex?
What'd you say?
Have you ever thought this song was really about anal sex?
No.
Me either.
Let's just carry on like that, didn't happen.
Big miss.
Big miss.
I see why they got rid of that club that y'all had.
There's shit going on in that club.
We turned out of that club.
Yeah, sure know.
Hey.
Really enjoyed the topics slate tonight.
This was great.
It is.
Again, happy Halloween to y'all.
out there.
Here it goes.
I can turn me now.
You show you how.
Hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there until the next time.
We bid you adieu.
Farewell.
Adios, Eriva, Durche.
Osta, Arvois.
So long, goodbye, or simple head nod.
That bass song got a little butt sex pop to it.
This is a butt sex song.
Y'all gets to pretend I'm crazy.
It does.
The little, the little, the bass line songs,
or no shit.
Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past.
So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.
Last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure.
The stagnant women want to travel.
And the closed mind that women want you to teach them things.
The clocks go back tonight.
Yes, sir.
Daylight saving.
No, this is the good one because we get an hour.
Yeah.
Okay.
We get an extra hour.
That's an extra hour in the strip club tonight.
Hey.
Hey.
What y'all doing this weekend since we talk my day like savings?
What y'all on?
What y'all on?
What y'all on out there?
I'm in Chicago.
All right.
Shout to the shy.
Shout to the shot.
Quick stop in the shy.
All right.
Halloween party.
That's it.
All right.
This is going to be shy.
That's it.
I'm traveling.
I'll tell y'all later.
Got it, got it, got it.
Demona?
I'm getting paid to shake my ass to stand on the couch.
Hey, Docvins this weekend.
Williams and a lot.
Ready, get ready.
Ready.
Let's get that screen record.
Ready.
You know they got it.
I'm not doing too much, man.
I'll be spending some time with my youngest.
My drop him off at around 11.
Hey!
We're doing it.
You all the day.
Hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you.
Shout to the parents out there.
Shout to the kids out there.
Everybody that dressed up for Halloween.
Shout to Chef Kino and Chef Edith's chefing it up for us a Halloween.
Shafing it up for us a Halloween.
JPP, where to be without the JVP?
We'll fold that up right now.
You've never heard of Joe, buddy?
