The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 883 | "Not Violins"

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

Joe kicks off the latest episode with his review of the Sean Combs 'The Reckoning' documentary on Netflix executively produced by 50 Cent (27:49) before the JBP asks Marc Lamont Hill about his latest ...interviews (1:19:28). A new Game project with DJ Drama & Mike N Keys (1:32:04), Cassidy vs. Eazy The Block Captain (1:45:00), and the room reacts to some revealing news about Frank Sinatra (1:52:44). Also, Meg Thee Stallion wins her defamation case against Milagro (2:09:06), Trevone Boykin criticizes Russell Wilson over a Thanksgiving he hosted (2:18:07), Ariana Grande & Cynthia Erivo's press run continues (2:38:22), Jussie Smollett's appearance on Cam Newton's 'Funky Friday' (2:44:35), Max B's New Jersey club performance (3:10:45), a trillion dollars or 10 minutes with God (3:29:45), and much more!  Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: www.patreon.com/joebudden 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Enjoy the show. I hate when niggas, I know that was something. You're not happy to see me, bro. I told you when I spoke to the internet. I am so happy to see you. You got cold, though? Uh-huh. I'm a big.
Starting point is 00:00:36 I'm a little. I don't want to talk to me because you feel like I got a cold. That's a new, that's a new, you got all these new lines that I'm not wanting to speak to a nigga communicate. Yo, you got a cold? I'm saying Mark ain't really kicking in with you. Let me get my shades too.
Starting point is 00:00:49 I'm on pure bullshit today. Oh, I never see you. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh. Hey. Come here, stop. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:57 You get it from, nigger. Check it. Hey. Techno. I'm just a little stevie, but yeah. Yeah, a little nerdy. That you went to the IMAX. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Hey, you being in there. Some shit they get you out of the hot dog, you're talking. You're doing in the back. I know, I know you're type. Hey, girl, you know, oh yeah, you're married, parmy. One of us is, yeah. Both.
Starting point is 00:01:19 How you doing? It's good to see you, brother. Like wild, man. I love you, flip. I love you, too, man. You got a complaint, though, yo. Just want to ask, can I start off, asking Mark some questions? Joe? Oh, please.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Listen, so I just want to let you know I'm on pure bullshit today. As opposed to your Yeah, my norm. Contemplative face. Yesterday, I went to parents. You should be very serious. Yesterday, I'm with the parents' teacher.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Mm. My daughter had the nerve to pull her teacher to the side after school because he kept saying the word Negro after teaching about the Negro League. Now, I had to tell her, like, I almost called you. To tell my daughter to call him. He's teaching about the Negro League. She said he used the word Negro excessively.
Starting point is 00:02:00 You can't pull a teacher and say, what the fuck you think you are? You kind of can, though. Would she say like you Negro sit down? Huh? Like, was it like after he was... Yeah, she said that. She said, Daddy, I understood he was explaining it, but he used it excessively. I'm looking at Princess like, wait.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I stand with Princess. He's talking about the Negro League, and you talk about... I didn't like that. I felt away real... I felt a little racism towards my daughter. I almost sold out because I was on your side, but not... Because you're with us. What is I'm going to say?
Starting point is 00:02:26 I felt away as Ricky over here. No, but what I'm saying? I felt the way in my mind is like, come on, Princess, like some battles, you could battle and some not. But she said that she said it like seven times. She counted it and you pressing teachers. So you were at parent teaching night. I was at parent teaching night. Yeah. So I almost
Starting point is 00:02:40 called you to see if she did something right, because I didn't know if I wanted to scold her or champion her. Champion your daughter, man. And then I came in there with the Malcolm X hoodie. So they're like, oh, they, they, they his family's on pure. But I'm not. I'm with y'all a little bit. You know what I'm saying? I happened yesterday, man. I was
Starting point is 00:02:57 a little bit, Joe. I'm sorry, you were a grade. Say it again? What grade? 11th. She's a junior. Oh, whoa. As a junior, I was observing things.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Wait, I was never a junior. No, my question is that if the teacher's teaching about the NBL, the Negro, whatever, the NLB, is he not supposed to use the word Negro? I'm laughing. Listen, I'm laughing because of all the things they could teach about us.
Starting point is 00:03:26 They in there talk about. They play. Baseball too. The school system and how they represent black people, come on, don't starve me today. Don't starve me today. Don't starve me today. I'm in a good mood.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I saw Amani asked Parks the heart-hitting questions. All eyes on me? Oh, man. What's up with y'all? What's up, man? You be in there for too long before you say, what up, man? You'd be in there for like 30 minutes before me and you even speak to each. That's the old school bag.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I hate when he get a shape up. Yeah. You look good, nigga. We acknowledge it. You got the clarity sweats on. I thought you was a nigga to pull a gun on the barber, nigga, nigga. He likeskin like you, but you good.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I just saw it. Yeah, you look good. What's up? How much is that hoodie? That's vintage, man. Like a G. A G? A thousand dollars?
Starting point is 00:04:21 One thousand dollars? For a hoodie. What do it do? I'm not being, I'm fucked up. They got wings or some shit that grow up? What do it do? It's boardproof. You know.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Niggas getting money in here. I respect it. That's not my world. You know his closet, nigga? He got like $30K worth of clothes. He's that, nigga? Just hoodies. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:41 But I knew a lot of them was like that, that's that is merch, but I didn't know you had like $1,000 hoodies in that shit, man. That's what's up, man. Must be nice. Yo, this, nigga. Freeze, how are you doing?
Starting point is 00:04:54 I'm great, man. Glad to be here. How y' y'all doing? Feel great. I'm good. I'm sick, man. I'm over it. I feel good.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I thought I was getting sick again, but not. No, I definitely got a little chest cold, sore throat. It's coming. The old house coughing is going to keep sending a fucking kid over that sick. It's the kid. Not say a word. I had enough one time and said something back. I tried to fight up for Dad Rice like your dog.
Starting point is 00:05:18 They, huh? Huh? They're going to send a kid. No, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Primary with them. Gosh.
Starting point is 00:05:25 I don't get it. Nothing. Go ahead. I didn't know step on a moment with this bullshit with mutinous this motherfucker
Starting point is 00:05:35 yes they'll send again I said what the fuck did I say this fucking guy throw me off this stupid shit
Starting point is 00:05:42 he just did uh anybody oh I say yeah I can't get sick as the nigga that's out here working and moving around I don't have time to get sick
Starting point is 00:05:52 I'm the last person that both of us you wanted to get sick you're a dad But you're a fuck Why are you? Anyway, I'll be fine. Hey, see you see your kids in school, sick on purpose?
Starting point is 00:06:09 How sick? Oh, shit. How sick is the quit? No fever? Yeah, maybe. Or light fever. You go on school. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Yep, the daytime, Danny. You go on school, bro. Oh, school. I do it too. I ain't know if I was the only. Nah, long ain't no fever. Is you doing it? Let's not make her.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Don't worry about. You'd be out. You'd be out. My son was caught. I had to give him a steroid to stop the cough. God damn. No, but it was good. I just needed to stop until he got through the door.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Oh, shit. Once I hit 80, I was good. He's your old. He's just, that's what y'all. Oh, shit. And it's that weather. And it's supposed to snow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Yeah. And it's a state of emergency or something shit. It's a little snow. Yeah. Me too. All right. Y'all got had that bullshit. It makes me just saying shit.
Starting point is 00:06:56 You're a big. I miss the snow. I like a little bit, though. What you miss about it? I'm a New Yorker true and true. I'm here for the change of weather. The contrast seasons changing. It's a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I can have winter without the snow. Are you going out there? We've had winters without the snow. And I'll take that. They ain't, dang, they ain't really been winterish to me. It don't got to be a blizzard snow. Just some snow. Are you going to play in the snow?
Starting point is 00:07:19 Are you not going to play in the snow? Are you going to sit outside? Might, I might. Okay, well, let me see. I might sit outside. Yeah, let me see. I might sit on a balcony. I might take a trip.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Naga, I might go to Colorado somewhere. Okay. Who the fuck are you told? I love the snow. All right, let me see. I just want to say. I'm going to be living. Snow police.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Words. Because niggas just be saying shit, man. I miss the snow. No, you don't miss the snow, niggas. No, you niggas could go to fucking, y'all can move to Florida or somewhere where his fucking sun is out all year. That's me.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Nah. I don't want that either. If I could live in L.A., I would be there 12 months. And ICE, I know where you live. You're not even shoveling nothing. At all. I don't know. You're not going to take that good for us
Starting point is 00:08:00 Your car got that good to yeah That shit comes right off It's a dove for that I ain't shoveling shit Same Really? No I don't either
Starting point is 00:08:08 Hell no You're gonna tip the nigga that shovel us out I don't even see the nigga that do it I don't know when it's done Ain't nobody to tick Yeah they be doing that shit early right for he Yep Do you shovel your build
Starting point is 00:08:17 All your properties Do you shovel for the tenants? Yeah You yourself? Yeah If it's close That's dedication That is dedication
Starting point is 00:08:24 Yo Laylord of the year Come on, yo. Getting the car and drop to the shit. Come on, bro. You gotta get a guy. You got guys. A shovel, nigga.
Starting point is 00:08:34 If it's close. You're not out there shoveling, boy. Stop. Y'naggin' be lying. I don't believe it either. I was going to let it ride. You know why he need body in the stone face. You believe him.
Starting point is 00:08:43 No, we don't believe you. You're not outside shoveling, nigga. What time? You're getting your car and driving and a house to shovel? At one time. Okay, I apologize. I believe that before I believe he paid him
Starting point is 00:08:54 somebody to go out there and shovel. He's going to get some. Well, that guy he got that I saw him with don't charge much. Mr. Leish is freezing. Hey, yo, here, take these gloves. He gets a little cotton shit. Give him sock. Give him sock.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Get him sock. Take these little socks. Matter of fact, double it up. Let me take my shit on. I got a car. He sit out there watching a nigga shovel, too. Seventh car. Just.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Right. Just shoveling or the salt. Were you salting to? Oh. Ooh. Calcium of rock salt. Yeah, because you want to get fancy And how much of it?
Starting point is 00:09:29 No, I leave a bucket How much salt? He tried to stop. I'm about to tell you. He wouldn't make it that take a little scoopy. I leave a bucket at each house. I leave a bucket, a five-pound, a big bucket. Okay, that's cute.
Starting point is 00:09:40 But do you, is that extra? Did you salt it? Yeah, I salted. You leave a cup. Yeah, you leave a cup. You got the little shit. And you leave a cup in there? Black ice?
Starting point is 00:09:50 What the fuck is that? Is there any black ice in your property? Well, that's the fancy salt. Yeah, that's the shit. Yeah. No, no, no. Rock salt, Nick.
Starting point is 00:10:00 We got the dollar store. I don't need no pellets. Give me $13. I got a $40 bag. Stay in the deep box. Damn. I got to do the calculation, nigger. Each house.
Starting point is 00:10:13 That's not a work. You show me. You show me. You show off here. I get it. Even when it's deep? Ooh. It's laws for snow.
Starting point is 00:10:24 For landlords. You got to snow. You need a guy, though. So you ain't got to drive in that shit when he's a blizzard out there. Go ahead, you do that. No. Put your faith in the guy. Oh, yeah, the guy not going.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Fair enough. You pay them in the guy. You pay them enough. You got to pay them right. We got people to come by every time it's no. You pay them right, don't you? Yeah. Yo, who's watching this thing?
Starting point is 00:10:45 I don't know. I have to figure. I can't, I get, I know this guy's gone. A lot of people. You know, why do you think that people be lying, yo? I didn't say nothing about lying. You're like, yo, who's watching this? Because you, I'm saying some fake shit.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I gotta know. I'm not saying you're lying. I shovel my snow, bro. It's nothing wrong with shoveling snow. Who the fuck is watching? I gotta get to the box. I'm gonna figure it out. Like the chair company shit.
Starting point is 00:11:10 That's gonna be my chair company purpose. Is, to pick out somebody and he's looking at him. And he know it. You're crazy. Look at this. Yo, you're crazy. Every time you get this shit,
Starting point is 00:11:21 like when you look fucked up, you look sharp. I look fucked up sometimes. Sometimes. You'd be so stoic- Ever seen a talkative, mysterious Sniggins? Like, I'm not to get into this,
Starting point is 00:11:31 Nick, now. He pissing me to fuck off. Because I know him for too long for this to even still be... For what, nigga? I don't know. Be specific. Oh, all right, cool. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:42 How are you talking about mysterious? It's impressive. My nigga, people ask me the right questions. I answered the questions. Yo, you shovel your own snow. Yeah, no, no, you don't. But look how you do it. I do, though.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Yeah, I shovel it. And y'all said no, you pause and do this, a face. I answered you. Nick, communicate. Yes, I do. Yes. And let me tell you how.
Starting point is 00:12:02 You don't do that. You don't. You do every mic drop. No, it was no, no, you don't. You can't possibly shovel you on snow. You lying. Mr. Eish, gave him socks. All that bullshit.
Starting point is 00:12:12 No, nigga. Antoine. I put on my old nor face. I get outside with my ski pants on it. Dope one, too. And shovel my own snow, bro. Say that's how early? You got to,
Starting point is 00:12:25 wait until it's finished snowing. You got a certain amount of time after it finished snowing at the show. So if it snows overnight, you out there at 6, 7 a.m.? Nah, I'll probably get out there like 10. Ain't bad. That's fine. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:35 You're a good landlord, man. I try. Cut the grass too? That's why you want to do. Yeah, sometimes. He probably used that too, freeze. I'll shove it your snow, bitch. With my rent.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Where am I at? I don't think he refers to as tight as to snap. Oh, yeah, Bobby. Show me your snow bee. A little more LL. A little more LL than that. Shoveled your snow, B. Where am I rid at?
Starting point is 00:12:57 You got it. You got it. You too cool. Look at that, I love you. I think about you when, like, a home. For real. You shoveled your snow? What? I do.
Starting point is 00:13:05 That's cute. You shoveled your snow? Send to people. You don't know what snowy? I'm lost. You want me to wipe the car now? That shit over being in the snow. They still wait for them.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I have managers. Gotcha. The people? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they get to it. They get to it. They get to.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Gotcha. Gotcha. Yo, I had the wildest podcast dream. I'm listening to y'all. It's kind of like my dream a little bit. No, for real. That's funny when you had the work dream. Yo, dog.
Starting point is 00:13:37 It's day jove? I ain't even a dude to be remembering his dreams either. Me neither. Do y'all? Some of them. Do you all dream a lot? Yeah. Yeah, but if they go out, as soon as I wake up, it's over.
Starting point is 00:13:48 No, no. I don't even think I really be dreaming of one either. I used to. I don't dream no more. You don't be taking that bell of totals. Yeah. No, that shit is. Things that a lot going on in real life, Fox.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I ain't going to lie. I don't remember the last time I had to dream. Damn, damn. That's really depressing. For real? Yeah. Damn, son. Let me guess life is just kicking.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I don't know what that means, but I don't be dreaming a lot. When I was young, I did. Just be darkness. Yeah. I just go to sleep. Then you fuck them all. Then I wake up. Nothing left to dream about.
Starting point is 00:14:23 You're so stupid. Once I fuck them all, It was like, oh, what you're eating? Tomato, tomato. Oh, man. Yeah, we was somewhere potting. And we was, it was all of us, though. Like, all of us.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Mono, hey, the whole, everybody, right? But we was somewhere remote podding, and it was a big-ass space. And it was somebody that we, whoever we was talking to, we had to do that interview. It wasn't booked, but we had to do it. And as we was doing that, Dr. Umar walked in.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Oh shit. Now I'm trying to rush whoever the fuck this is, but they won't get up. And then Rory and fucking more people come in. I'm like, oh shit. It was partying this. And then Mandy came. Oh, that's the home for you.
Starting point is 00:15:15 No, I think I have a little pod of dangerous dream. It's the JBN. Showing. No, it's not. No, it's not at all. Why was that happening? Then a fight broke out outside. What's about right?
Starting point is 00:15:29 You're self-conscious. A fight broke out outside, so then the interview was over. But then I couldn't interview. It was. Who was fighting? I don't be dreaming about work. Who was fighting? People outside.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Oh. Oh, not. Nobody inside. Oh, okay, okay. People outside. But then we rushed outside, and then it got hectic outside, and then I couldn't interview nobody. It was over.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Wow. That's a wonderful dream. What lesson did you take from that dream? Thank you for that dream. None, fucking dark. None. We should interpret our dreams. There was no lesson.
Starting point is 00:16:04 We should interpret how many dreams we have. We should interpret all that stuff. But I didn't take anything away from it. I just woke up like, damn, that was interesting. He's the king. I forgot all about it, too. Y'all started talking. The umbrella, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:16:15 Wait, huh? He's the king. He's the dog. He talked about that podcast shit. A lot of people ain't going to survive. Right. You know, the people that came in, you know, they were once under the umbrella.
Starting point is 00:16:24 So it's just God showing them. Nick, look what you started. Look what you did. Motherfucking egotistical dream. I'll slap the shit out of you, real. Ever come over no dream like that again? I didn't pull that for a dream. Rory and Mendy.
Starting point is 00:16:35 All the niggins. Oh, the people that apparently was on the, nigga, shut the fuck up, big. I mean, I started with Umar. Because you, you won, Omar. You won an him all. That's our guy. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:16:45 That's our guy. I'm done with you. I was in here fucking with knobs. Hold up, man. Whoa. All right. All right. She doing your off time?
Starting point is 00:16:55 Is your business? Abdul Carter situation would good. How is that? Fucking with knobs. How? Explain it to me. Knob is a slang word for the penis. Where?
Starting point is 00:17:10 You never heard Slop you loud? Never heard Slop. It's a famous song by a group called Three Six Mile. From Memphis, Tennessee. You got me. Other big hits. You got me. You got me.
Starting point is 00:17:22 You got me. You got me. Oh my God. Okay, that's crazy. You got it. I've been over here fucking with Knob going to. Hey. Your dream.
Starting point is 00:17:32 See, look. That's crazy. Okay, I'm done with you all for real. That was funny. We're in here. We're in here. Oh, cool, oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Girls like your... Make sure. Always got a bad attitude. Got man bad bitches pro. Got man bad bitches fro. Not a half gonna leave, somebody got to destroy. Pretty place with a flip in a mouth with the chef, no, I'm ex-a-fell. And not like I got, I don't need you.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Yeah, yeah. Those that I'm ones, those of ones, stand on a-a-ha-ha-ha. All the patronies shout to wherever you might be listening from. You might be listening front. Game of shots. God's fun. Ain't nothing worse. Been a broken man.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Whole New York City big jersey. Y'all should be about done with those leftovers by now. Now, y'all should be done. Come on, Barks. Don't be that guy. Huh? I threw my turkey away this morning.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah. The rest of the carcass. I had to clear it out. It's over now. It's the right. It's clear the fridge out, man. It's over. Clear the fridge out.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Get that fucking sucker tash out of here. It's over. I can trust her now It makes the motion Yes sir It makes the most I got mixed emotions All these drives
Starting point is 00:19:39 They're hunting jobs Still my blood Though you're tired Even you know I'm not Packing the drop flipping a switch Got them stealing Shops for the ladies
Starting point is 00:19:49 Set for the ladies Set by me I'm eight out of ten I'm a blind in a G I'm letting me up there Everybody traveling Everybody running around Who here knows the New Year's Eve plans?
Starting point is 00:20:04 Not I. I just got mine. No, have any. I think I'm being a same kid. I got invited to speak at the prime minister's gala. All right. All right, man, all right. I know.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I know what I'm playing. I know what I play is art. Word. What happened? I know what I play is art. And that's speaking at the prime ministers gala. Yeah, word. Bustle!
Starting point is 00:20:29 There's gotta be some calming ground Who's to get the run around? That's why you never come around I'm running like you are the only reason that I'm popping down Reading through your conscience make me wonder who you're clubbing now He taught his chick up Leon Thomas She said, what if I'm running from? Please don't make me give on a pocket when I'm off the wrong
Starting point is 00:20:50 She made me gloves with her just to give me hell I mean I still feel an ass-in'all to eat my finger in hell That pussy boo-hoo I just wish she used a different stuff All those emotions now my name come on you act like you don't bring a bell And I don't know how to see you Oh Shout to all the happy couples out there Shout all the miserable couples as well
Starting point is 00:21:18 Christmas is coming I don't know how y'all gonna handle that in the household it gets dark It gets dark That fight got some carryover into the holidays and the birthday and the Valentine's Day and all that Now you gotta play nice because it's kids My heart goes out to you. I know you love it. Some of y'all don't celebrate Christmas, I forgot. The lucky ones.
Starting point is 00:21:43 I know you love it. That cause he feels like. I can't ask y'all what y'all want to start with. No, I don't. What's your boy up there? Yeah. My man Maugh, man, man, man. Who saw it besides me?
Starting point is 00:22:05 I didn't see it, Doc. I don't see the doc. I want to, look. What time it came out? Three of the morning I should have watched it Game out of three in the morning You watched awful?
Starting point is 00:22:22 Yes I watch something this morning I'm a lunatic I wake up at five Because I was on Netflix at midnight I was like all right I forgot I did the same thing
Starting point is 00:22:34 I'm going to bed Yeah that's what I did I was up but I forgot about it by three years I just didn't cut the news on And it's juicy Is it? Oh yeah?
Starting point is 00:22:43 I see they tight as something Is it? Yeah, it's a lot of motherfuckers in there. Where they found him? No, no, no, no, it's juicy. It's really juicy. It's probably like the juiciest. Whoa, it's a lot of juice.
Starting point is 00:22:56 No, no, you better watch the- The first 15 minutes. You're just meeting it now. It's right near bottom of the room, my like. Whoa. We too old. No, we're nice. We are.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Me and Parks keep telling you. Grow down. Yeah, fine. Yeah, fuck you all. I just want to see you on a bit, babe, yeah, I just want to see you on a bed.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Too many nuts. I'm done, I'm done, I'm done. How did I got sped up like that? Too many knots. Not for daddy. Now, the- You're ice and fish. Who was that?
Starting point is 00:24:47 Who was that? Is Mark the by hill, pussy, pussy, pussy, pussy? And flip, flip, flip, flip. Yeah, you put some bass in y'all voice. Flip, flip, flip. Flip, flip. Flip, flip. Yeah, that was.
Starting point is 00:25:05 It was, you're right. It was. It was inspiring. Can we do it again? Can we do it again? Let's go again. Let's go to count of three. One, two, three.
Starting point is 00:25:12 And flip. Flip flip. Flip. Hey, yo. Hey, you know. I fucked up. Hey, yo. Flip.
Starting point is 00:25:19 My flip. Oh, shit. It's just two clint to the rim. I love. Get y'all. Tint down. I love. Joe, what episode is this?
Starting point is 00:25:36 883. 883. Welcome to episode 883 of the Joe Button podcast. Brought to you by a few by power by prize spitz. Pride Spitz gang. Yeah. I'm Joe Button. This is Queens Flip.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Yes, sir. Get the money. That's our good brother. Dr. Mark Lamont Hill. That's our good brother, ish right there. That's freeze the freesiest of the mall. Y'all know him.
Starting point is 00:25:55 That's Parks. That's Paul. This is Corey. What happened? What happened? I'm not going to do it to you. I love you. No, what happened?
Starting point is 00:26:03 Now we're not. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I love him too much. What you did? This is my man, man. He was doing some bullshit. You're doing some bullshit.
Starting point is 00:26:13 It was absolutely some bullshit. Y'all. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. That's a guilty face. That's a guilty face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:19 You did it. Oh, no. Well, that part ain't in question. We seen him do it. Oh. We seen him do it. Oh, niggas, too. Now we got to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Before a second now. First of all, you should put a minute work sign on the door or do not disturb. Put a sock on the handle. But he don't. So he got the door just wide open. Oh, you get crazy like that close. Why someone's in here wide open? Go crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Crazy. Crazy or so then when you hear you're talking with the knobs That stuff was hitting with the ad of Bisi So then when you hear a door slam or some shit Like that should be like okay Let me put it away Someone's coming Let me do something
Starting point is 00:27:02 Let me get up close the door I'll get back to this I get back to this pussy He old nigger here couldn't do that Yeah no So now the door wide open Yeah so somebody walked by He got the blanket over there
Starting point is 00:27:15 Oh shit Oh, shit. Lori, what the fuck? Yo, this is a old nigger, man. Oh, shit. Degas giving them a terminator pumps. Oh, I'll be back. Yo.
Starting point is 00:27:33 So anyway, Corey is here. Yeah, that's good, man. Erickson is here, Tanner Savani, here by remote last, but certainly not least each and every one of you guys are here, man. Everybody look good, smell good. Come on, let's get right to it. Let's get right to it. I was up at 5 a.m.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Watching the Reckoning. Right to it. That is the Puff Daddy piece, executive produced by 50 Cent. I don't even think that's fair because there's a lot more names involved in this piece. But 50 is kind of...
Starting point is 00:28:00 He's the star name. Yeah. But it's mad other names. So, but fuck it. Executive Produced by 50 Cent on Netflix. It's a four-part series. Is there any other industry names
Starting point is 00:28:10 on there or just other names? That's what I was about to say. Just out of curiosity. Like any names that people would... No? No. Oh, okay. No.
Starting point is 00:28:19 That's what industry ain't to know. Yeah. You know, I was thinking like record execs or anything like that. Oh, they, yeah. No, but it's not just by one person is what I'm
Starting point is 00:28:31 saying. Like, I'm sure those people are accomplished and have, you know, so this is them coming together and it's, my point is, it's a very well done piece. Dope. It's a very, well.
Starting point is 00:28:46 depending on who I like well-done documentaries Let me put it that way Me too I'm glad it wasn't a quick hack rush job No They did a bunch of those It didn't come off like that at all
Starting point is 00:28:58 Yeah they did Hulu was going crazy Everybody just had a bunch of And HBO actually Yeah just showing the same So he has some shit It was a bunch of shit Yeah
Starting point is 00:29:05 No this one was very well done I watched When episode one was on I said okay You're recapping I've heard all of this They're starting at his early years and background and yada y'all and just how he, the early stages of. And I'm like, all right, we've seen all of this before.
Starting point is 00:29:28 And I mean, most of the footage we've seen, part two was about, like I just saw it a couple hours ago, so be it with me. Part two was about Biggie and the West Coast and Pock and. More shit that we've seen before. Yeah, but told differently. Okay. told differently. This one did more... It basically blames Puff for Biggie and Pock.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Thanks. Okay. Wow. Which is something we've heard before. Yeah. This piece takes a lot of the reasonable doubt away. Oh. Like, they do a good job of laying it at his feet.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I was pissed by episode two. Really? I was absolutely pissed by episode. Pissed at the death. Oscar Pistet Puff. Yeah. Puff. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Because the way the doc is framing it was Big didn't want to go to L.A. at all. Like that little segment, and we maybe have heard that before, this doc did a good job of making you say right after Pock dies, why would Biggie want to go to L.A. to finish recording an album? Like, that just sounds real stupid today.
Starting point is 00:30:44 It does a little bit. It does. And then they got interviews with all these key people where even if they are saying something you heard before, they stand a little more in depth. So they got the guy saying, I forgot his name, sorry. They got him saying, yo, Biggie was supposed to go to L.A. and then run with me over to London two days later. But that didn't happen. He was urged to stay. I mean, and then they get into the swapping of the Rolling Stone cover.
Starting point is 00:31:14 again, more things that you have heard, but how it, how, it's framed differently. Somebody, and again, maybe that's 50. There's somebody in the no putting his timeline together. Yeah, I was saying fuck him for the big, by episode two.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Wow. Really? Yeah, it was. I got to watch this tonight. Yeah, I'm watching this. The show. For sure. Episode three, then they get into the the women and just, you know where this. That life's, yeah. You know where it goes. And four is the end. Okay. And Forrest End.
Starting point is 00:31:45 How was it in? Like, at him now. Okay, now, okay. Now, Cassie, they got footage of, they just got, they got all the footage. They got footage of Ryan Leslie bringing Cassie in the conference room and then Puff at the head. And then them in the studio with Puff saying, yeah, I like this song, but I want to love it. I need a rapidy to do this part that you want, Ryan Leslie. And then there was no more Ryan Leslie than it was Kim Porter was the wife, but then Cassie was the wifey.
Starting point is 00:32:14 and then when Kim Porter were coming around and sent Cassie to go to the spa or some shit because they couldn't be around each other and they got fucking I'll be sure and they got Eric Sermon in there talking about Misa Wow You know when Puff met Misa Yada yada yada like it's just
Starting point is 00:32:29 A world wind of shit I won't call it a hit piece because they did focus on his success as well Okay and that's the story they were telling It's like But the success drove him to be a monster? Is that how they framed No, no, I won't say that.
Starting point is 00:32:48 But the guy you just, the guy that got away at every turn and continue to rise and rise more. And then when this got dead, the Dan of D.K. They went into the whole making the band shit and what that looked like with today's ears and climate. His relationship with Aubrey and how he was sending her shit on some. Did they put her in? Yo, I'm masturbating tonight. I'm going to think of you. And, yeah, I want to fuck.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And when that didn't go right, uh, then they pan right through the footage of him kicking out of the group. And she's looking at him like, Oh, wow. She looking at him like, yo, did she speak in the dark? Huh? Does she speak in the dock?
Starting point is 00:33:36 Uh, I think so. It's all fuzzy. It's all fuzzy. You go rewatching. You have to rewatch it. Oh, no, this is. It's all fuzzy. But she looked at.
Starting point is 00:33:46 him like, my man. Really? Because he's in there saying, you're not provocative enough, you're not proboscubes. Oh, shit. Right. Word. Yeah, and then it got into, when I was done
Starting point is 00:34:00 with Danny DeCaine, he fucking exed that whole group, took dawn, put in dirty money. Now, it's him in the group. So, he's the focus. The story they kept trying to tell was he always wanted to be the focus. The executive who had all these artists, but
Starting point is 00:34:15 wanted to be the focus. I'm the I'm the arts. Yeah, I'm a star. So, Shug was right. This is when you start the Shug speech
Starting point is 00:34:21 from the Social Awards. Well, then they got into Shug. They got into what he said at the Source Awards, what Puff said at the source awards, how Shug was Albi Shores' bodyguard and how that turned to executive. And this was just a very well done piece
Starting point is 00:34:38 involving a lot of info that you know, but... Framed. Framed. A certain way. And with some more shit. because now they have footage of
Starting point is 00:34:47 and this is what I guess Puffs people was beefing about they have footage of like six days before the arrest Yeah They got fresh footage of him in the car Oh shit God damn
Starting point is 00:35:00 Him talking to lawyers I saw him talking to lawyers That's the clip that was going viral Yesterday was him In Harlem hugging people Oh that they didn't do that no good Either the doc was like And when everybody turned their back on
Starting point is 00:35:12 It was totally over And now you're back in Harlem now you're walking around you're a man of the people and all of these like they was making it seem none and not making it seem at one point
Starting point is 00:35:23 they said he don't fuck with black people oh shit damn yeah they said that shit wow I hate that I'm the only one that saw it so you all are just we'll have a report
Starting point is 00:35:34 on Friday yeah for sure we'll have to report because I'm kind of scatterbraining this whole thing because I was just taking a back well it seemed like
Starting point is 00:35:42 did these people were taking it back too when the piece came out with the footage, they said, first of all, they called it a shameful hit piece. But they said, his lawyer said, quote, stolen footage was never authorized for release. So either there's a rat or somebody's lying. I thought that from what I know is that the person that records the footage,
Starting point is 00:36:03 the footage belonged to them. I don't think that Puff. Unless they signed some fraud. I don't think that he had time or he had the person sign anything. Because in my mind, I met the person at the truth. I met the person. Don't usually think how you sign that shit
Starting point is 00:36:16 before you even start recording? Not where you're going to do all that shit. I don't think. Yeah, it might be hasty or whatever. With a person like puff? I don't think he thought about it though, for you. I thought the same thing is before you go on to jail. You know they're coming to get you.
Starting point is 00:36:27 So you're trying to put out some shit. Well, here's what Alexandria Stapleton say, which speaks to what y'all said. Alexandria Stapleton is the director of the docu series. Okay. She's the one that was doing the press with 50 and all that. Okay, okay. She said, it came to us.
Starting point is 00:36:39 We obtained the footage legally and have the necessary rights. We moved heaven earth to keep the filmmaker's identity confidential. One thing about Sean Combs is that he's always filming himself, and it's been an obsession throughout the decades, which might answer the other question. We also reached out to his legal team for an interview and comment multiple times, but did not hear back. So it sounds like, to your point, like, they ain't getting no illegal footage.
Starting point is 00:37:02 No, it wasn't illegal. It's just a person that gave it to them. You might look at them funny. Right. And the reason Puff might do that. Like you said, if you're obsessed with filming yourself and you know you're going to prison in four days, that might be. Well, he may have had his own doc plan.
Starting point is 00:37:13 or... I'm sure. Especially if you want. Well, that's the other thing I said to myself watching. It's like, there's footage from 89. Like, wow.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I was outside of 94. I can't find a fucking... A video of me doing shit. It's a lot of footage of him doing everything. That's the other part that was... I'm telling you, they had one of his male escorts on.
Starting point is 00:37:43 And the dude said, every March 9th religiously no matter where I was him and Cassie flew me out to be where they was at specifically on March 9th Wow
Starting point is 00:37:56 that's a little creepy that's a little that's what I'm saying there's a lot of other shit that was just like and then later on he goes on to say he goes on to say that toward the end of their
Starting point is 00:38:11 whatever they were doing they would collect his semen in a cup and he didn't say none for a few times and then finally he did he was like yo what the fuck are you going with my seamen and they said Puff was like yo I like to make her drink it play with it douse and then why what's the problem with it and then they have some they have him on that type of shit very early too earlier than all of this, but you know that that's there.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Yeah. You know that that's weird. But back to the dirty money shit. From making a band, the dirty money, the story that they were telling in there, the other girl from dirty money, I forgot her name. Kalea. And let me just say,
Starting point is 00:39:02 the dirty money album is a classic. It is a great album. It is. It is. And a remix album, too. Fire. They did a remix album. So they got her saying that
Starting point is 00:39:11 the relationship between Puff and Dawn was very strange. as well. Like, like, if you ever met a billionaire, what would you do to be his girl or be in his...
Starting point is 00:39:26 Concubine, whatever. Kalina. All while Cassie is there. So it's just, it painted. It's a lot of facts. It's a lot of footage. However they got the footage, it certainly helped in this
Starting point is 00:39:39 story they were telling. It did. It did. It did. It did. It did make you feel like at the end he didn't get enough time. Really? Really?
Starting point is 00:39:49 It would have to. They show the shine shit. They show the girl. They show too much shit to where it's like if you don't believe this or if this didn't do it for you or if this didn't do it for you, it's like certain shit is too consistent in the story that they tell. Did they mention anything about the trial like where the state fucked up or the feds or whoever was trying it or anything like that?
Starting point is 00:40:16 No. Before every episode. they give you, they did the black screen with the, the words, he's serving such and such and such he is charged with such and such and such he wasn't charged with such and whatever they said in the place, man. I don't even
Starting point is 00:40:27 read them shit after, once I'd see it saying the same thing. Right. Yeah, what a fucked up start to the morning to watch it. It wasn't great. That's heavy. And then it's bangor after banger after banger after bangor in this. Oh, did the music?
Starting point is 00:40:44 I mean, yeah, you can't tell the story without. I don't know they had license for it. That's why I was, oh, that's... Some of the music, I mean, Benjamin's came on, Mo Money More Problems came on. The awards with him performing, with Sting coming out is like every, and even that is real sinister if you get into
Starting point is 00:41:00 what they're trying to say. I wonder how they got that. I guess it's fair use. Fair use. Oh, right. Yeah. Whoever was in charge of collecting the footage and the archery and the paper clippings. They did the thing. They did their thing. Yeah, you went crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Yeah. I can't wait to work. And then Puff is saying, this shit is a hit piece because of that little clip they got going around of him saying I need a shower and I hugged 150 people so I need to bathe and cleanse myself. I need to stand
Starting point is 00:41:29 hand sanitizer. Oh, buddy. Who cares about that? No, that's absolutely nothing. I actually agreed with him. Oh, he was afraid about that. I absolutely agreed with him. If I'm out here just hugging and kissing and I want hand sanitizer. I mean, but he seemed to shake 50 hands.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I mean, but he seemed to shake 50 other things at these parties. I'm taking you a germ fove. It's just, yeah, a lot of knobs. But I'm telling you, that was part of them attempting to frame it. Like, you know, like, he don't fuck with them. I didn't get that. I didn't get that. I can take that with it.
Starting point is 00:41:59 That could be with anybody, but I get what you saying. Because I would do the same thing. Yeah. No matter what the crowd is like. After a concert. I'm going to watch my head. It's like, it's not the crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Then the, from the that to the Surrock deal, like, this guy has been the pinnacle of success for. They got in Sean John. It's like, this guy. guy elevated each other. Has had, no, I had 60, 80, and 100 million in... The 90s. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Late 90s. Yeah. That's a long time to have a lot of fucking money. In the recent footage, he's like, yo, I'm on my way to the bank, the deposit, $200 million. They're holding the bank open for me. Yeah. God damn.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Something late. Hold the bank open. I hold a bank open, too, for $200.00. Oh, for sure. You want the money? I want to Boston. Especially if you understand how banks work. Word. What?
Starting point is 00:42:52 Yeah. You got to take that 200. The bank is they open for a week. Bro. If you get whatever, if you bring a 200 million over here. Off of 200, they're going to make $2 billion, $4 billion.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Whatever the fuck, they're going to make off your $200 million. Yeah. We'll leave this shit open. You can come next Thursday. We won't close. You want flat or sparkling? We'll leave it open. Whenever you feel like it, just show up.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Crazy. It left me saying, I just wish she had. like real friends at some point. But when you're making that much and you're worth that much, you don't get that. And you're that type of... You don't get that.
Starting point is 00:43:27 And I'm not saying that he don't. But I'm saying... If you're that type of person, can you even have real friends? Well, that was going to be my question. Because, I mean, we see other billionaires. You can have real friends. If you're that type of person,
Starting point is 00:43:37 you can have real friends. I disagree. You can. You can. I don't think so. I think that the narcissism in these people will... Real friend,
Starting point is 00:43:45 we're saying it under the... It implies that the real friend is a good guy. Yeah, but the real friend will be the one to hold you to the fire or make you accountable for certain shit. And certain narcissistic people with that level going to kick the people away from them. Yeah, you get away from me if you're telling me the truth. Not necessarily. Well, let me ask you question. I'm not saying that because I do think that he has somebody somewhere that is a real friend.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Well, I was going to be my question. Does anybody know who that person is? because I've never heard, you know, like, Hove, you know, he has a crew that he came up with. A lot of other, Drey, I mean, there are people who are billionaires who have crew. I just never, I never heard of, like, a long-term close-puff friend. D-Rock, you said? Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I'm asking because I don't know. I don't. I think there are names out there the same way he just said D-Roy. I'm not going to name names here. I do think that that could be. That would hold him accountable? Yeah. That's good.
Starting point is 00:44:40 It may not be many, and I don't want to sound like I'm vouching saying it's confirming. I can't confirm. But I ain't going to see their name. By hearing some of these people talk, a lot of people looked at it as a benefit. I sense a lot of fear also. You know what I mean? He instilled fear in somewhere. I was telling J.R. the same thing.
Starting point is 00:44:59 People were scared of Puff. You know what I mean? And this is why somebody would record footage and he wouldn't have to sign a document because the nigger wouldn't even play with Puff and do that. You know, Puff would have to be incarcerated in order for a person to even play with him like that to even give up footage. A nigga wouldn't do that regularly. He wouldn't even need that.
Starting point is 00:45:15 any contracts. You know what I mean? Because as I stated, JR and I met the person who was capturing the footage. You know what I mean? So, but... Did you get a sense of what the footage was for? Did they say anything to you about it? Yeah, well, it was for recording. I mean, it was outside the courthouse. They were recording the sons. Like, it was the thing that, like Joe was saying, he was trying to record, it was told to us that, you know, trying to get a documentary, Puff wanted to record this. Want to record this whole journey because Puff felt that he would be, he was coming home.
Starting point is 00:45:42 So that's what he wanted to do. But it just did a... A whole 360. 180. 180. Sorry. The world has never seen anything like puff. Puff is in that. It's my job.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Puff is in that that that speech, yeah, a different, the world has never seen nothing like this before. Like even watching it, you never saw a sinister,
Starting point is 00:46:10 mega talented, more talented than everybody, slash by gangster that sold that, like this guy is in a league of his own. He is. It's dark and it's twisted
Starting point is 00:46:27 and there's some other words that come to mind. But you ain't ever seen any shit like that. That's been the thing that's been said, you know, whispered for years when it was like, anybody that left there had to run to some religion at some point. Like, what did you see there that was
Starting point is 00:46:44 that bad that I got to get away from this thing and get religion. And I'm telling you, with all of this shit, I still think that if he comes out and says the right rehabilitated shit, America loves a prediction. There's a path. I think for sure. Absolutely. His resilience, his persistence, and his just overall. or willingness and drive to win
Starting point is 00:47:18 is something you can't teach. He's also really smart at doing things like buying a thousand turkeys for the jail. Like he's going to do some shit like that. He's not such a bad guy. And he also got powerful friends. That's a winner. Like we keep forgetting that problem.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Who he has dirt on. Yeah. And they know that. Yeah. But I think even... I don't know. Make Puff be the black gillane. I ain't saying it like that.
Starting point is 00:47:40 But I'm saying it like that. I'm sure there's a couple cups floating around that. I'm talking about what he possesses. Yes. I think the shit that he possesses is just, again, yo, we heard the stories of him going to Howard, but he's driving from D.C. to New York in a rabbit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:47:59 He's intern and he's going to college full-time and coming back to New York in a fucking Volkswagen rabbit. Like, that just speaks to his drive and his dedication to be great. Like, everybody won't do that. And I think that certain niggas just got that in them. Yeah, they just got that in them. That niggas a different level. persistent.
Starting point is 00:48:14 And they said, can't start, won't stop. Yeah, bro. Like, it's different. I think if Puff hit the ground
Starting point is 00:48:18 day and he was broke, I think in five years, Puff would be back at multi-million easily, like 100 million in five years if he was dirt floor poor. And it makes you think
Starting point is 00:48:28 a little bit, ish, like he had to be confident in the outcome because he preserved the relationships, right? I'm going to use these relationships if he does have dirt in anybody at when I need to,
Starting point is 00:48:39 not at a time like this. It makes you think a little bit deeper, like, okay, If we say he do got dirt on people, he ain't used it at all. He took the brunt of it, I took everything. Or he has. Well, he might have used the behind-close.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Maybe more people didn't come for it because of dirt. Maybe more people didn't sign on to the back. I'm talking about the execs. That's what I'm talking about. I'm saying, I'm saying I don't know one way or the other. I'm not saying that's the case. I'm just saying Puff is so sophisticated and power is so powerful
Starting point is 00:49:03 that there's no way to know what's happening behind the scenes unless you're back there. That's all I'm saying. I wouldn't know one way to other. I think there's also like a billionaire code where he probably is like, I'm going to go do my little five years or whatever. It's going to.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I'm going to eat it. I'm not about to piss off these other billionaires. Right. That's what I'm going to be useful to me in the five years. Or they may aren't being useful to me now. True, true. I agree with that. Can I ask a question about this code?
Starting point is 00:49:26 Because that was one of the things that came up during the press run. I was watching Good Morning America. For example, Robert Roberts interviewed the director and 50 Cent and other people. 50 Cent to your point, Joe, is one of many people who are part of this series. But he's been the face of it. he's been using it to promote the documentary, but also the troll a little bit on social media, actually a lot bit for a long time.
Starting point is 00:49:48 That's what he does. And some people are like, oh, you got him, you to Petty King. Other people have been like, this is not okay. For example, Jaru, another one of his enemies, tweeted today, you know, this is rat shit. You're a rat.
Starting point is 00:49:59 There are a lot of people who echoed that, you know, in terms of the code, is it, if one of your colleagues does something like this, one of your peers does something like whatever Puff is involved in and been convicted of, is there any violation from 50 side to make a documentary? about it. Does he do anything wrong? 50 plays by
Starting point is 00:50:16 a different set of rules when it comes to that shit though. Like, you, my enemy, it's up for you forever. I want to do whatever I can to see you down. And there's some people that roll with that. I don't think it's rat shit because he wasn't involved in it with him. I think when someone's ratting
Starting point is 00:50:32 is the definition of what ratin is. I don't mean just a rat thing because we always debate. I mean kind of like, is it just violating any kind of, is there anything fucked up about it? If you're puff. Yeah. I mean, If you did that shit, it depends on what side you stand on.
Starting point is 00:50:46 It depends on what side you stand on. Pardon me, Joe. If you're my enemy for a long time, I'm going to do whatever. Because we can say, I don't think Puff did anything that detrimental to make you do that. Some people can say that. In his mind, it's like, if you're my enemy for a long time, I'm going to do whatever it takes to kick you down, keep you down, or whatever it takes to kick your back in. And if you're on the other side, you're like, yo, nigger, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:51:08 I wouldn't do this to you. What are you doing? That's not part of the game. That's not part of the cold. You know, you're participating or hopping on a bandwagon and keep another man down, a black man. You know, whatever, it's just depend on what side of the coin you stand on. What you're saying, Jim, I'm for it.
Starting point is 00:51:22 No, exactly what you said. Either you're on the side of, you're going to feel something when you see a black man kicking down a black man when he's at his worst. Or you're on the other side of, this is run of the show. And I don't think that they're enemies. I think that 50 is, and this is his, line of work.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Yeah, that's where it gets tricky too. I think he's in television now. Yeah, that's where it gets tricky too. And I think it's more than that. Huh? I think he views Puff as his enemy, and this is my line of work, so I can use this to drop more on my enemy.
Starting point is 00:51:58 If anybody else in this line of work, we're not calling in the question their emotions behind when they are doing a piece. The rules change. We play a different game. He's in a different sport now. Yeah, he's in movie and TV, and that's the gig. Yeah, but you ain't did this for nothing else.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Like you are specifically targeted. We know you've been had beef with this man for years. Less money and everything else. I'm just saying, if that's my enemy and I see the opportunity, and this is my line of work here, it's just a perfect star. And I'm not saying, but that's still my enemy. I'm not saying he's never done this before. I think that a lot of what he's done has been his interpretation
Starting point is 00:52:37 or interpolation of something that happened to this. fucking life series on ABC. True story. The BMF shit is a true story. Yeah, but I'm talking about trying to, again, with enemies, you know, you look at Jai. Every chance he gets, he tries to step on Jai. But you're concerned in the word enemies.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Because I believe that to be his enemy. I believe 50 people. So maybe that's the first question. Okay, then why are the enemies? There could be some, there's some whispering. Oh, I haven't heard those. I'm not I'm not repeating
Starting point is 00:53:11 I'm not I'm not getting broadcast them but and if that were to be true I could understand it well I think one way to think
Starting point is 00:53:17 about ICE is like there's certainly evidence that he would have an issue with him it's just a question whether that issue rises to the level
Starting point is 00:53:23 of enemy because you could have beef or somebody but not not enemy because with Phiddy has an enemy it's up forever
Starting point is 00:53:29 is the puff shit that intense or is it also just competition that's for him to decide but some you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:53:34 that's the line for me right like if if I'm in the TV business and I can shoot anything
Starting point is 00:53:39 make a documentary about anything, and there's this one thing that could be put out about an enemy, yeah, I might take that opportunity. You just did. Yeah, that's different. Which we'll get to, too. But if it's just somebody who I have a friendly competition with, then I might not double down on it.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Some people are different. And that's what I say it depends. Some people are better at playing chess mark. That's how I look at it. But what's the end game? What does victory look like? Because I'm pretty sure that there were things that if we look at it from,
Starting point is 00:54:09 a different scope that Puff did to take shots at fifth at certain times. You know what I mean? If you just know the no. Wasn't Puff on the I Get Money remix? Yeah. That's, and it was funny because when they were in that studio together, I mean,
Starting point is 00:54:22 so that's the difference to me. And I'm not saying that that that means. Yeah. But even in that end, because I mean, 50 and J have had tensions, but there's no beef. Right. And I think that's the difference.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I think the beef started after that, by the way. Uh-huh. For what I remember. Yes. When Hove went through this fucking funny shit
Starting point is 00:54:39 recently. Fifth put it on it. He was going at him. Fifth was at him. And that's what I said. He does a little bit of troll and he's always competing. And we start this with knowing that he don't give a fuck. Right. Yeah. We start this just with a common knowledge that 50 don't give a fuck. Right. And for me it's hard to find any
Starting point is 00:54:56 blame or assign any blame to 50 because Puff did all this shit. Exactly. That part too. So it's like it's one thing if like Puff just went broke. Let's just say he developed a terrible heroin addiction and he had gone broke. No crimes. done just went bro. If you make a documentary about that, to me that's
Starting point is 00:55:12 like petty. That's petty and like unnecessary. But like making a documentary about somebody who actually did harm to people. And was found guilty in the court of law. Yeah. Well, that's why calling it a hit piece is laughable because you'll call the piece on it a hit piece but not the piece in it.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Right. Yeah. Right. Right. I'm watching. I'm definitely going to watch it. Oh, I'm definitely watching. I was watching 50 do the press run. Did y'all see him do the press run? Because he was basically down playing all the bee. He was like there's no beef. We had a little competition or there was no
Starting point is 00:55:44 competition. I just didn't like the fact that he came after. He was trying to holl at me. And he was explained this to Robert Roberts. And I don't think he was like, you know, he just came at me a little side. You know, he kept trying to take me shopping and see what he could. He could play with me. You know, implying that Puff was gay. I'm like, you tell us the Robert Roberts who may be the gayest announcer on TV. So it didn't go
Starting point is 00:56:02 the way I think he wanted it to. And then I saw the director kind of jump in and say, no, no, no, it's not about that. It's also about all this other shit. A lot of people were involved in it. So I think they're going to have to be very careful how they frame the Y's. How they frame, yes, that's exactly right, on this press run, because you don't want it to look like a hip piece. You also don't want it to be about ditty sexuality, all these other things.
Starting point is 00:56:21 If you want the mainstream to embrace this. Because this could win a lot of awards, if it's as good as you're saying it is. Because people love to give awards to shit like this. Just like the R. Kelly, true. You know, they love to give awards to like this, and they should. That R. Kelly shit was a point in viewing. That Rkelly shit. at each and every one of us at the TV.
Starting point is 00:56:39 I know. I didn't go finish watching. I never got through it. For real? I've seen enough. Okay. I didn't watch the last phone. Being around enough molesters in my day,
Starting point is 00:56:48 you know, it was hard to watch. It was great in terms of cinema, you know, in terms of the doc, sometimes I got to take a break from that stuff. I can do it. That makes sense. Yeah. And I feel like I should close this by saying,
Starting point is 00:57:03 with all of that said, none of that was my personal experience, because I hate when people do that. Like you think because somebody was with somebody that now they're saying something that they saw and... No, I'm talking about the peace and
Starting point is 00:57:18 it's damaging. You're about to say? You know what I... And I know you closed it because you get doing like that. But what I battle with is that when you know someone and you know what side of the
Starting point is 00:57:36 corn you'll stand on to watch someone that you know when you look up to or whatever when they just take another turn or do something that you may not do. Life is very tricky sometimes. Not tricky, but it's a hard pill to swallow
Starting point is 00:57:53 because, like, what do I respect this because of the respect that I have? Because I wouldn't do it. Or do I understand it? And that's where it becomes, like, for me, me, I'm only speaking for me personally
Starting point is 00:58:08 you know what I mean? It doesn't matter but it's a battle because then you try to find, if you like somebody you try to make excuses of while they're doing it. Justifying. But then say that there was a lot of opportunities for me to do things to people, which I'm not on that level, but I never did it. So it's crazy. That's all I want to say. I'm sorry. Well, it's all about
Starting point is 00:58:23 what you believe. Yeah, but even if you're all about what your belief system is. Yeah, but then your belief system may change depending on the person that's doing it. Like if, that happens all the time. It happens all the time. We don't, people don't want admit that but that's a thing it shouldn't but it does you right it's fucking it it happens all the more times than then we know yes it's like I would never do that do
Starting point is 00:58:43 do you see it like ah ha then you try to because you like them so much or because the relationship you try to make a reason of oh I can see them doing that but in all reality niggas like it still is what it is you know what I'm saying so not many people stick to the it is what it is all the way across the board I got it yeah it's almost impossible we all hypocrites I say it every chance I get number one somehow I think y'all doing that minimizes something. I don't know that I agree with y'all. And again, everyone's belief system is made up.
Starting point is 00:59:17 I understand that, right? But triggers are triggers and fears are fears. I think when you start having that conversation, it's deeper than everybody's a hypocrite or we accept this from this person and not this person. No, there's some people who across the board have a healthy fear of anything sinister that does not change contingent on who the person is. But for a lot of people, like Flip said, a lot of people, it's things that they have this
Starting point is 00:59:51 across-the-board feel about until it's at their front door. And then they might not necessarily agree, but they'll go out their way to try to justify it or to understand it more because it's somebody that's close to them or it's happening directly to their family or something like that. where I could be, I would never go with this, never, never, never, never. And now it's your little brother or your son, your daughter, or your mother, something that hits you real close to home.
Starting point is 01:00:15 You get a little bit more room for understanding than you normally would. Our capacity for nuance expands than what we love somebody, I think. Yeah. And I don't think that means that we wrong for doing it. Maybe it should mean we should be more nuanced with people we don't know. Yeah, see, to me, that ain't change in my belief system. If I'm against murder, and that's how I feel across the board, and I don't want to drag this.
Starting point is 01:00:36 But that's how I feel across the board. And now my son comes home and he's murdered. Yes, I'm going to be there for him. Yes, I'm going to have understanding. Maybe. Yes, I'm going to support him and try to see him through this. Would you turn him in? Huh?
Starting point is 01:00:50 Would you turn him in? I think I answered this before. I know, but I'm just saying, but there's a lot of people that. But what did you say? Maybe. See, but the fact you said maybe. No, he said, yeah before. But look, the fact you said, maybe.
Starting point is 01:01:01 The fact you're saying maybe. I think I leaned closer to the year, but you're stuck. Really? You think it would depend on the circumstances. No, you got a damn right. But look, just the fact that you're saying maybe, Joe. I'm raising men to be accountable for the actions. I'm raising men to make decisions that help before they get to that spot.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I'm raising men differently than trying to be a coward or hide them when they do some fuck shit. I can see not hiding them. I'm just not making a call. Oh, shit. Fuck you? I'm not hiding you, but I'm not. I can see not hiding. What did he do?
Starting point is 01:01:32 Your kid goes shoot up at school. We come home to you. What do you do? You're not turning to me? turning him in, though. You're not calling the police? No. Okay, then we build different.
Starting point is 01:01:40 We just build different. She ended up at school. I wouldn't protect him. That's the way he'd get in the... I can understand a circumstance. And shit up at school was also not where we started. It was initially when you came home with murder, I was thinking more like a street beefie.
Starting point is 01:01:53 You shot somebody, not Columbine. Well, then I asked a new question, which to me is in the same realm. I don't have kids, but... If your kid do something, you said there was no world in which I'm turning them in. I challenged that. I challenge that or... I wouldn't say in no world, but I think it would have to be something as extreme. As extreme as a school shooter.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Yeah, but if you just tell me he got a beef with somebody over some shit and he shot somebody and he comes home like, yo, dad, shot somebody, the police is looking for me. You can't hide here. Your kid grape the neighbor four houses down from you. God forbid, of course. But now I'm just throwing extreme situations. I would force him to be part of an account. Yeah, that's different.
Starting point is 01:02:29 That falls into. So you're making... So you're making the call in that instance. All right, so Mark is... I'm doing something. I'm specifically talking about making a call, the turn in. But again, Mark don't believe in police. Honestly, I probably call the neighbor and say, yo, he's here.
Starting point is 01:02:43 I don't know if I called the police, but again, I'd be part of the accountability. Yeah, that's right. You see what I'm saying? Mark don't believe in police. I forgot. That counts. I called a neighbor. That got deep.
Starting point is 01:02:52 It did. Yeah, it did. Sorry. You went too extreme. I'm sorry. Because I started to think that. I closed the topic and then you brought it back. Paul.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Why do you went so deep? I think some of your paws got these like, like, hold on too long. too long to these... I can't call it hood ideologies because we all approach in 50. I think that we should start challenging some of the shit that we've been raised to think. I'm not talking about Mark and he don't believe in the cops.
Starting point is 01:03:16 But no, you can't just come in my house having to have done anything. I'm sorry. No, we agree on that. But hold on, and I think a niggish should say... You ain't up being out where... I'm scared of you now. You can't come in the house.
Starting point is 01:03:27 I think a niggas should... There's a difference between not hiding you in telling me. I think a niggis should say... All right, so what's you're going to do? Your kid grow up and he already bad is that. Hell, but he grew up. He started beating it. I've been thinking it threw a lot.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Why he didn't you still training? Right, exactly. Y'all saw that shit in the basement it wasn't for us outside of salants. No, on God. Like, what do you do if your kids just start beating your ass? You flip. I'm going to figure it out. No, he's winning.
Starting point is 01:03:54 I'm going to figure it out. I'm going to figure what else. That's a process. Your combinations? No. I'm forget it. You, I think the problem, niggas. But you ain't calling the police on them.
Starting point is 01:04:04 I'm not calling the police, but I think a nigger should... I'm calling somebody. Yes, I am calling somebody, but I think a person like you should say, because you have to say, you had the same beliefs. Yo, with age, with maturity, with life experience. I never had those beliefs. I was about to say you were assuming that he had those beliefs. You could know them?
Starting point is 01:04:23 How about being? That's murderous? I don't... To call police or niggas that he's been around murderers. To call police or the nigger that he knows that's murderous? No, he wasn't doing that. We got to stop that. That's a mid, and he did that.
Starting point is 01:04:35 All right, I grew. No, that is, no. No, anybody. He's saying he's been a rat for a long time. No. You're going to play around with the rap work. Hold on, hold on. He could have been around people that he knew did criminal shit.
Starting point is 01:04:46 He ain't never. Let me finish, bro. That don't mean he witnessed nobody do some shit. You could have knowledge of people doing shit or you could know these people are involved in certain things, but he ain't necessarily never witness it. It's two totally different things. You're right.
Starting point is 01:05:01 And somebody coming to you saying, I just did a murder. It's different. Or you hearing through the street, yo, such and such, such old bag. No, the murderers I know were brilliant enough to never murder around me. It wasn't like today's street, niggas.
Starting point is 01:05:15 No, and if they did, it would put me in the bind. And I'm letting y'all know early, don't do it around me because I'm not going in the barn. No, stop, bro. What? I'm not going in the barn. Are you crazy? I'm respected.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Do your dirt over there. I can't tell you how you think. You can't tell me, I'm right. You're right. I apologize, God. No, I've had detectives come knock on my door. And you ain't say shit. No, I went to rehab like a real nigga in the 90s.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Catch me here. I volunteered. I only wanted it volunteered in there. They were so confused. Yo, why? Don't worry about it, but we're down. I'm here with you. That's what I did.
Starting point is 01:05:53 God damn it. Anyway. Anyway. Now it's too. Speaking of confrontation. And I don't. I don't like, no, because that I'm mad. Stop, man.
Starting point is 01:06:07 I'm thinking. I don't like us covering a topic when nobody saw it but me. I don't like that. I think we did great. No, that was great. I thought we did great. We did a hour ago. We didn't know about it.
Starting point is 01:06:18 I was good. I was over here like a church mouse peeing on cotton. A church mouse peeing on cotton. Tell them, bro. Tell them. You've been a spokesperson for this whole dot. Joe. What?
Starting point is 01:06:33 You gave me an ill breakdown You made this one to see it I was gonna see it You know both I was doing pull-ups Oh, it's shit They're gonna do pull-ups when they get out That thing in there doing diamonds Joe butt
Starting point is 01:06:47 Can't wait to see you boy What? No, I don't think so Anyways Now it's time for my favorite Part of the show Prize Picks Barely see across that river
Starting point is 01:07:04 right now boy that shit coming for real yeah nuts out there that drive gonna be crazy well that shit can stay there until i get home after that i'm good probably want to get no dumb-as gloomy as weather it don't bother me i see right in the house like this yeah i gotta get home dick i ain't home yet it don't bother me when i'm when i'm home i don't get what it's doing out there gotta get home to your daughter and the rain may make it on why you're such bitches Why are y'all such bitches? We drive a hour to get a drove.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Nick a drive somewhere. Right. Do you hear these niggins? That's all it is. Right. The rain. He don't drive. He don't drive.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Exactly. No, it's so gloomy. He got somebody holding an umbrella for him. Yeah. You bitch, 255 talking about. It's gloomy outside. What the fuck that I got to do with being in a fucked up environment? Because be a man.
Starting point is 01:07:54 And wait, wait, what fuck the environment? Gloomy. Don't nobody want to be fucking thinking about this depressing bullshit. You just want sun rays, right? All year. You want sun rays all year, right? I mean, it ain't a bad thing. It is a bad thing.
Starting point is 01:08:05 This world would be a piece of shit if it never rained. That's why. The rain contributes to your happiness, you fucking fake-happy-ass, nigga. I'm not fake-happy-ass, nigga. I ain't never seen you and you look so chipper. These niggas are arguing about the weather. I'm not. It ain't these niggas.
Starting point is 01:08:22 I ain't know he was an apropologist. Now you fucking Chipper Jones over here. Oh, that my happiness. Yeah, man. You ain't supposed to be happy, nigga. I know. Be a fucking man. Grow a sex.
Starting point is 01:08:34 and stop looking outside at the windshield factor. Small fuckers. I'm glad you all, though. He was just complaining and they told him that he's a dad. He got to deal with the cold. Now, if he can't deal with the fucking water. I'm just saying, they're listening to men. Listen to y'all complaining about the weather,
Starting point is 01:08:52 it's like when the girls say, they hear men say, you know, next Friday. Like, that's what it's similar to me. You know, next Friday, I got you. A man looking out the window saying, woman brain. A man saying, looking out the window and saying, oh my God, that weather is so spooky out there.
Starting point is 01:09:09 It's similar to you. I got you next Friday. We said spooky. I just don't like driving in the rain. That's it. That's it. I just don't like driving in inclement weather. Annie, I drive an hour, nigger. No, that's without the rain. It's worse. When you want nice things. When you want nice things, that's what you got
Starting point is 01:09:25 do. I mean, you can live much closer. You can live much closer. You can live much closer. You in your city. But when you like nice things, vacancies. You take what comes with nice things. Night's just close. I never heard of that.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Yeah. I don't know if that is. Is that like Irvington? Exactamundo. You're lucky I don't remember that name. We can't call Philly niggas boy. You're going to call him. I wouldn't even feel comfortable saying that.
Starting point is 01:09:53 He tried to call Mark a nut-ass freak bull. That sounds nuts. A nut-ass freak bull. That sounds crazy to me. Like, why would people in Philly be calling people that? because some people be nut-ass-freak-ball But what did you got to do to be that? Because I got my gun on me
Starting point is 01:10:06 and I really want you to jump and I'm going to pop your top. You say the most insulting shit you could think of. And that's what you came up with. In-filling. In-filling. At least in New York, the suck-my-dick, you bitch-ass nigger.
Starting point is 01:10:21 That's going to make them jump. That's universal. It's not like we immune to that in Philly. Like, you say that should somebody in Philly too. But, no, I mean, they call each up dickheads and shit like that. Dickhead is not that big. The dick-ha is mine.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Yeah, dickhead is play-play. Yeah, like, Dickhead is like, yeah, that's like a gloomy day. Ooh, I'm a dick-ha-ed. Yeah, like, when you ride the bus home for school, you go back door, Dickhead, that's what you say to the bus driver. Like, that's just what you say.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Like, that's normal shit. Huh? Yeah, all right. I wait for you to get up to walk in until I slam on the brakes. Watch your dumb ass. They say Dick-Eaten, Dick-Head. They say Dick-Eat. That shit's ruined to me, Mel.
Starting point is 01:10:59 That shit ruined to me, though. That shit ruined. Like dicks out there or something. Yeah, like, if I said. like you dick. Like, I wouldn't be insulted by it. I mean, I'd be insulted, but I mean, it wouldn't be like next. It was not fighting words.
Starting point is 01:11:08 But suck of shit is. But nut, but nut, but nut, but nutt-ass-ball is fighting words. Call somebody a nut. The first fight we got in back in the day was somebody called my brother Nut. I'm sorry, my brother called somebody a nut, and he sent it in, and he called some, he says him grow your boyfriend and nut. So he came up. We were in eighth grade.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Dude was like, you know, it's the hood. So he was like 22. And he came up. And he beats the shit out of my brother. And you just still. What you do? I jumped in. Duck!
Starting point is 01:11:34 And he beat the shit out of both of us. I'm sorry you went through that. I'm just saying, but my brother shouldn't call him a nut. We learned a lesson. Worst bystander to have in the world over here. Don't jump in if we both just going to get whooped on. Let me just do it. Nick, I was in sixth grade.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Go call the police. Go get some help, go help. Call the police. This nigga had a legal gun permit. Nick, he can drink. He was 24-1. I was in sixth grade. What you want me to do?
Starting point is 01:11:59 Oh, man. My brother fucking came and got. me to help him with some nigga at the basketball court that was a little hefty. I should have asked them to see a picture. What we're doing, though? That's when you first got your diplomatic bag?
Starting point is 01:12:18 We don't have to be. Everybody. That's all calm down. Just give me 10 minutes. Oh, shit. Did y'all lose? Come and take a walk with me. Calm down.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Oh, shit. Let's breathe. Everybody, let's breathe. Hey, yo, breathe. You are on fire, son. This is him? Oh, we love. Goodbye.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Come on, we're laughing, man. I knew the dude had to be on some shit because me and my brother ain't get along at the time. I need you help. Come with me to the park real quick. I was like, all right, man. You saw that nigga.
Starting point is 01:13:01 You say that big nigger, you pop me unkilly? No, if I remember, Ray, we jumped on his ass. We was violent. I was violent for Joe, but then he was violent. Anyway, trauma. Violence, ice. A V word. He says, that's true.
Starting point is 01:13:22 You ain't know in high school. Violence. Violence. Violence. Not violent. Violence. Violence. Not violence.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Violence, freeze. San Dan, combat. A fight. Not mom dropping you off to the back door in school, nigga. Yeah, mute up. Mike Tyson punch out. The real life.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Oh, man. Not violent. That was good. Oh, man. He warmed up after two hours. After two hours, two hours of meditation. That boy, goodbye. Two hours of live meditation.
Starting point is 01:14:07 After two hours, no. Yeah. My man. Got pace yourself when you older, yo. That's what it is. Once he do that, after two hours and not, chill. Cut it out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:19 I'm straight. I'm good. We're good. I mean, I don't know. War my ass sticker. Get straight into it. That digger, boy. At the live show, what would we do?
Starting point is 01:14:31 At the live show. I would throw a tomato. Hey. You know, when a- Get off the stage, you know, when the car take too long and worn
Starting point is 01:14:43 you got bang that bump at the live show we ain't got two hours, buddy. Hey, when these lights go up and they say,
Starting point is 01:14:52 you better hit them with a dog. You know, you go to the Q&A portion, I can see you. You better haul them shake
Starting point is 01:14:58 or something, you know. Figuring out. All right, now that's time of my favorite part of the show, PrizePix. Oh, did we did that? We did it. We did it.
Starting point is 01:15:09 It didn't do it twice. They don't make me to do it twice. Take one of those shit. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. All right, what is prize picks you asked? Well, I'll tell you as soon as my phone knows up.
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Starting point is 01:16:34 Hicks of the week. Let's see what Ish is on this week. We're going with Kareem Hunt for more than 37.5 rush yards. Justin Herbert for more than 206 passing yards. Jonathan Taylor for more than
Starting point is 01:16:51 17.5 receiving yards. Jemir Gibbs for whatever the fuck he feels like doing that day. Yeah. Which here is more than 74. 74 and a half rushing yards. And Devon. A-Chane for more than 79
Starting point is 01:17:03 and a half rushing yards. If it wasn't for Mike McDaniels, he would be on whatever I feel like doing this too. He's having a quietly really good season. Mike McDaniel's feeding that motherfucker. He said quietly. Yeah. That nigga, he on a megaphone.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Mike McDaniel give him the ball every down. He's in the top five, right? All purpose yards, yeah. You catch him in. If you got A. Chain and Jonathan Teller on your team, you're doing pretty good this season. My fantasy season is absolutely over with.
Starting point is 01:17:30 And anybody that picked Justin Jefferson in your first round. It's all of this. Bro. He has six yards. I think Tyree. No, they're playing. I was playing against somebody who had Seattle's defense. And I turned on the low lights and seeing what home boy, that high school quarterback was doing out there at the Vikings game.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Yo, nah. The fantasy gods is spoofing me. He was running backwards. He fell. They let San Donald. and Dana Jones go. Brough. Yeah, it's over, man.
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Starting point is 01:18:37 I'm just looking in my ESPN league I had the best team and now I can't beat anybody that's over he lost to me this week yeah it's over but you're still in the playoffs I think
Starting point is 01:18:48 I'm preparing for August I'm on I beat you and got eliminated I packed it up I'm ready for August I'm ready to draft I'm ready to draft it's over I'm ready to draft it's over
Starting point is 01:18:59 Justin, fucking Jeff and JJ McCartney. I don't know what the fuck was on my mind. When that Keyb talked me out of so many people, fucking Keith, anyway, it's fine. So speaking of it feeling good to be right, I was going to come in here to give my good brother, Dark Lamont Hill, some advice on how he runs his Patreon
Starting point is 01:19:18 because I always see the clips and the captions and all that and the previews. So I have clicked on about 16 previews for Mark. So when I click it, this is the preview. I click it. Hey, y'all, what's going on?
Starting point is 01:19:38 This is your good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill here. And ready to get into you about something in... That's the preview? Yep. Hey, y'all, what's going on? Mark Lamont Hill here. Had an interesting talk with the barbs this week. And if you want...
Starting point is 01:19:58 He has to extend the preview. You may not let this happen 16 times before telling me. So I wasn't going to say nothing, but it happened to me too many times. So today I was coming to tell him, this is what's happening with the preview. You should make it a little longer. But then this morning when I woke up.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Why you weren't going to say nothing? Because that's his business. He could do it. Just for the record, if you do a business that makes a million times more than my business, feel free to give me advice. No, I thought he was doing like that on purpose. No, I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Because that's how people do the previews you. No, you just told me that. It's automatically fits. seconds. He got to put it to the two minutes or 30. I didn't even know Patreon could preview stuff. I wish I would. Preview. Hey, buy this. I'm about to turn.
Starting point is 01:20:37 Yeah. That's the fuck. A preview. That's like free dope. That's like the nigga in the food court with the toothpicks and the shit. So anyway, this morning I wake up. Did he do it? I paused the puff dock.
Starting point is 01:20:55 Because Mark put out a new page. and it said preview. Messy Bootsmark. This time, though, when I did. When I clicked preview, it looked so good. It was everything.
Starting point is 01:21:05 He got the lights. Yeah. It was everything. It was like five minutes. He finally spent some money. That wasn't his career. That was a studio. He put some bread.
Starting point is 01:21:15 He doesn't use the iPhone no more. This one, the caption worked. And the preview. I need the preview. Join me for my exclusive interview with Brian McKnight Jr. and Julie McKnight. I'm so glad to have been
Starting point is 01:21:28 part of this raw, honest, and healing dialogue. I don't need to see nothing. Purchase. Well, I hit preview. I did not hit Purchase. I'm about saying. But I hit preview and got five minutes where I'm like, oh, so Mark does know how to preview.
Starting point is 01:21:41 I found out today. Yeah, you damn right. See more investigating. Hey, yo, subscribe that shit and watch it, man. Subscribe, bro. No. Subscribe that shit, niggas. No, I'm not subscribing to.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Niggins subscribe to your shit, nigga. I didn't ask you to. No, actually, you made. You made fun the niggins. You made fun a niggas. Please. You made fun of niggas not subscribe. And I did sub to your shit.
Starting point is 01:22:05 When violence. Ice. Violence. I did start to your shit when violence was going on. Like the color purple. And that's violence too. Actually. Not at all, man.
Starting point is 01:22:17 It was. You chose violence. Now that was Markno was violent. He chose violence. I didn't show it at the wedding. Prime Night chose violence. No, you chose violence. Why, did he shoot back?
Starting point is 01:22:27 So you had to up the ante? I got to go grab your family? No, no, no, people would think that this was about pettiness or... No, no, no, this was not about pettiness. No, sure. Pure greed. I really wanted the money. No, no, I'm kidding.
Starting point is 01:22:41 After my... So, Brian Me and I did what he did. I responded here, and to me it was kind of over. Yeah. But I was given the opportunity to interview... To kick a horse, right? Kick a horse while he's down. I mean, if somebody reaches out and says,
Starting point is 01:22:54 hey, the family wants to be able to tell their side, I wanted to be able to give... He's a journalist, y'all. Yeah, it's a journalist. I feel like it's important. Or Mark, take that shit. Right, nigga, fuck out of head. Take that shit.
Starting point is 01:23:05 I'm serious. Take that shit to the native lady. You gave a nigga one and it said, yo. If you, I still didn't. I interviewed them multiple times. Don't make me start. But this is probably why he asked that question earlier about 50 and his intention. Because of you.
Starting point is 01:23:18 You did the math. Yeah. Yeah. This is the thing. The shit that I told by me that I wouldn't say in public, I didn't say in public. And I didn't let. And they didn't say in public in the interview. There's so much shit that Brian McNight has said and done, according to them.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Which one? Both. But the senior is the one that we really need to talk about. And they did an interview. It was an hour and a half, great conversation. But for me, the point was healing. I wanted to be able to create a space for them to share their pain. That's good.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Hey, Mark. Hey, Mark. You ain't got a. No, I'm serious. It's us. There's people watching. And I was doing. But the people.
Starting point is 01:23:57 People that are watching you here from the rear. They kind of getting a good idea. I think when y'all see it, you're going to be very surprised. It was a good healing interview. They were very happy with it at the end. I didn't know you was a chiropractor. I ain't know your doctor.
Starting point is 01:24:12 I didn't know your doctor. I didn't know you was a... I want people to be able to talk and grow and heal. And they did. And I think it was a good conversation. They broke down a lot of shit. They refuted some of the stuff he said in his interview. Why are you putting on YouTube?
Starting point is 01:24:25 It'll be on YouTube. I like to give early... I like to give early access to my Patreon followers. Same Zedes. That's what I learned from you. Same Zee. So it will, you know, I don't want to, didn't necessarily want to say that because that makes people more likely to wait.
Starting point is 01:24:37 I know they curse me out every time like that. But early access, but I want everybody eventually able to see it. But for the foreseeable future, yeah, they should go to Patreon support it. But what do you say to the people that say that, like Brian McKnight, senior said that he was open to come have a conversation and slash debate with you directly. We should. But that doesn't mean that his family doesn't have a right to have a platform and to be able to speak back to what they've already said because Brian can't do all the talk. And Brian should be able to do as many interviews as he wants, but his family has a right to speak out. And they've been quiet.
Starting point is 01:25:12 And so BJ, Brian Jr., which one? The OG Jr. And Julie McNeillight, his ex-wife, they wanted to be able to speak back to some things that were being said about them. and they wanted a safe place to do it. One of the things they said was they respected my platform and my history of giving fair interviews. And so that's why they chose to allow me to do it. You got to blow your nose? You got some of your nose.
Starting point is 01:25:34 You got to blow your nose. You do, you do this thing with your nose when. He took a bullshit. You took tissue. You need to tissue in there. Hydroon machini. Yo, flip. Tuesdays are just as good as Friday.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Oh, shit. What we're saying? Shit. I don't know what that mean. What that mean? No, free. Break it down to me, John. Doing reality.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Tuesdays is just as good as Friday. So you say Fridays is better? What you're saying, nigga? Not it up. Yeah, call, call. Watch your fucking, y'all. Y'all do be a little bit happy on Fridays too. No, that's not true.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Yeah, I do be happy. That's not true. Oh, you say you are. No, not me. Not me. We don't be happy on Friday. No. I think both days is Blue Man.
Starting point is 01:26:23 You're looking happy on Friday? Y'all suck a niggins. Excuse me. Laugh. Fire. We laugh with you too. Yeah, no, I'm good. I'm glad I'm not.
Starting point is 01:26:30 We do laugh with you too. We laugh with you funny. It's me against all you niggas. And watch your fucking mouth, nigga. This is the best day, nigga. You hear me? For sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:40 The way you started with that Negro thing, that was like prior in his prom. Yeah. We were all thinking it. Hey, yo. Listen, just, listen. I used to, he had to do two different things. Whatever they say about this working environment is true.
Starting point is 01:26:57 We have two different styles of interviewing, right? Like, if I'm afraid of the person, what I'll do is I'll go to opposite side so they won't sit down with me, right? You know, I used to do tricks like that, but then I realize that you have to go to the horse's mouth. If somebody calls me out, I want to sit with them, look them in the eye as a man. And I'm not going to use an excuse about safe spaces. Because safe spaces is subjective.
Starting point is 01:27:21 I don't know if your place is safe for them, what it is. might have been a messy space. You know what I'm saying? No, you should watch the interview. It wasn't. I will watch it. But I did. I thought he was going to take Mr. McKnight
Starting point is 01:27:31 up on his office, sit down face and face with him. I've reached out. And then the other nigga that shot at you, you negated him. You know, he started to post shit. Yo, Mark, God. I can't respond. I can't respond to everybody that has that. That's the angle you take.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Markler in my fucking hill that jimped up to try to fight Queensflip. You taking an angle of I can't respond to everything. If he was staying like... And I'm on your side. He just called you Queens. He did. His last name is flip.
Starting point is 01:27:59 I'm on your side, but I'm expecting you. Come on, you got, you let that. Come on, what we doing, Mom? I respond to people who. You know, Bob being messy. I respond to people who have something. With the big lens, too. If this, I got said to my man.
Starting point is 01:28:12 I said this other day, I would debate Homeboy too. I would engage Homeboy too. There we go. Okay. But I'm not going to engage him about something stupid. Like, telling me you think you're intellectual and you're not. is to me, like, the academic equivalent of, like, you think you cute. Like, I'm not debating that because the stakes are too low.
Starting point is 01:28:30 You know what I mean? And it's not about him or his platform. I respect his platform. I respect people who respect him. But we ain't got shit to talk about. And if we do have something to talk about, then we can't have that conversation. But Brian McKnight, I absolutely would have a conversation. I know who Brian McNight is.
Starting point is 01:28:40 I don't know Antoine. But Brian McNight, I know. And not personally, I mean, I know he spoke out, so I respond to him. And he's welcome to come and sit down with me too. I would love to sit down with Brian McNight. I reached out. I reached out. Similar to the way he reached out to us.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Oh, he reached out to the Imagine. You said he was lying. No, he hit the pod page. Yeah, he did. He hit the pod page. No, I'm just saying, no. He said he was lying.
Starting point is 01:29:01 He said he was lying. He said he reached out. And he said the same way he reached out. So are you lying saying you ain't reached out to? I'm being tongue-in-cheek, but I reached out. If you scared, get a dog. And if you're scared or the dog, get another dog, man. I would just get a police officer to stand next to me.
Starting point is 01:29:16 Real close. And when it's looking sketch, he rush him. So would you be fair if you sat down after hearing his family's flipping you to catch you. Brian McNine ain't coming to sit down no damn hard. I heard what you're saying. You got to ignore that. If you want to have to sit down, I'll love to have to sit down with you. I'll come to where you are. I'll fly out to West Coast, wherever,
Starting point is 01:29:33 midwest, wherever. You can come this way. I'm happy to do it. I'll interview with you. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Respect the shoot. Bring them here. Listen, a few things before this talk goes any further. You know Brian McNine like 6'3, 6.4? Yeah. Same size as the original son. I met him yesterday. Same size, same size, same vibe.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Yeah. I thought you talked about Jesus. I thought he was talking about somebody from a killer army again. Oh, right. I thought he was back to sons of man. He paid us a break. You edited this shit fast. The prodigal son.
Starting point is 01:30:05 Yeah, yesterday. I was in the studio yesterday. They flew in. We did the interview. Amani was there. Just engaged, man. I didn't know he was going to be there. Drag another nigga down.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Show him so more love, nigga. Put another nigga in that mix. Yeah. He didn't know. Ami just had to be. That was crazy. That was crazy. No, no.
Starting point is 01:30:22 I didn't do that. Amon. My man here, too, nigga. That's a shit on me, nigga. That's what I'm in there, dude. But don't involve Imani in your bullshit. You can't say that. What he did for your channel?
Starting point is 01:30:33 He did. He turned up my shit, but I'm on his side. And ain't hit nobody on his channel yet. He would have let go of a grave opportunity. Woody, you got to come back. We got to run that back. If I hit somebody on somebody's channel and they shit go up, nigger, you better come see me.
Starting point is 01:30:49 The next one. Run it back. It's all right. Anyway Yeah Chaldemar Moni, we love you I can't wait to watch the interview Thank you
Starting point is 01:30:57 Thank you everybody Thank you for watching it And if you haven't Check it out on Patreon We will Yeah That's you I'm talking to people
Starting point is 01:31:02 On the audience See and this is why figuring out Where everybody sits At a wedding Is tricky It can't be here Because now
Starting point is 01:31:10 Mark and Brian Can't be at the same table There's so many people There's so many people They can't even be at the same table anymore We'll be fine
Starting point is 01:31:17 But I didn't Would me and Brian It'll be good We'll have a good conversation. I'm getting me some of it never felt this way. Paul. Whoa. When the Eagles fucking out of come on. Come on. I'm still in love with you? They better they better stop playing man. Shit I'm being here with the lighter up man I love
Starting point is 01:31:35 that I love this music. And it's 20 bill. Come on man. Yeah, violence turn red, roses turn blue. That's the come on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, come on man. That's the ball. Nick, what? See, look what we get now.
Starting point is 01:31:51 No, that's free. Hour two-ish, don't boy. He don't fucked up. Brian Kineck. Start singing this shit. You know, you're a fucked up to connect. Yeah. Fooked up to Kineck is crazy.
Starting point is 01:32:00 He ain't fucking up yet. Not yet. We good. Almost. We're doing. Y'all seen game in the club saying free Kells and free puff. That's what you said? Happy birthday to him.
Starting point is 01:32:10 For real? Like, that's real? I have to ask with everything now. Yeah. It was a birthday something. You ain't had to ask me. I got the new phone. yeah it's real
Starting point is 01:32:21 why did you do that I think he was I mean I think he was I mean for what I was Kanye even saying free puff everybody with ears some people feel like free puff and free cows and he was
Starting point is 01:32:36 what we're gonna be drinking that how no no hey that's your business that's what you that's what you do say it go ahead and rep screaming to the
Starting point is 01:32:43 I mean that's just you go ahead it's definitely a choice I just heard some very noble things he was or semi-noble things he was saying on a podcast. So it seems to conflict with that, but that's me. You got a relationship with Puff.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Yeah. Dark Kelly one was the one that surprised me more than the Puff one. But I get, I get, people have a perspective, right? One of those perspectives is, even if they did everything that they're accused to do and it's just too much jail time. And I don't think that he, pardon me more, I don't think that he was just random. I think Bumping Grine was on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Bumping Grine was playing. Yeah. And he was drunk. was his birthday, right? Oh. Yeah. Yeah. It felt like a moment
Starting point is 01:33:23 they got taken a little. I wouldn't read that much into it. I don't think he's on a campaign. I think he's caught him out a night when he was feeling it. It's filling in. Yeah. I'm not defending.
Starting point is 01:33:33 I'm just saying, I don't, you know. That's another one of them. I want to see the author. I want to see the first person that came up with that one. What? The drunk. A drunk mind.
Starting point is 01:33:41 I'm like, sometimes niggas is drunk, yeah. Yeah. Sometimes. I know too many drunk people. But no, but then when niggas be drunk, they don't be half. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:49 They don't got enough bearings to. Sometimes drunk people will also just be saying shit. Yeah. Like a lot of times. I think that saying negates what Parks is saying as an option. I just don't believe in that. I think sometimes, let's be drunk. I mean, you ain't ever drunk and said no shit you ain't mean.
Starting point is 01:34:05 To say. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Oh. That if you were sober, you would have had enough judgment to not say. Sometimes I'd just be saying. Sometimes I'd just be saying.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Look, you all need to be drawn. Do that often. I'm going to have to wake up like Steph Curry three. I get a couple of reps in and just saying some shit. Bow, bow, bow. Look at you're needing some Cisco to get this off. You don't want to get it off. That's the point.
Starting point is 01:34:33 It's something you didn't want to get off. Game got an album coming out this week, right? It was supposed to come out last week. Y'all was looking for it last week. It's a project with DJ Drama against a real job. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Parks. Because that is where we're supposed to go. But I want to hear an example of the drama.
Starting point is 01:34:49 tongue, they've come out. Your dad should have never talked to you. Like, what?
Starting point is 01:34:54 Give me the guy. The guy is drunk coming in the house. I ain't never like, if I was your dad, I would have left you too. Yeah. I ain't never like your ass anyway.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Yeah. I never like such a such don't like you. That's why they be talking about. Yeah. They start exposing mad shit. That's why you're a girl fucking somebody else.
Starting point is 01:35:15 They're all like, oh, well, you knew that? Yeah. They were drunk. Yeah. My mom married did that. So there's no point where somebody real dad was. Wait, what?
Starting point is 01:35:25 One day, Ma'am Mary. While intoxicated? Yeah, drunk as Cooter Brown. She came. Hold on. That's back when they had to make their own liquor. Yeah, Cooter Brown. Moonshire.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Who was his name? Cooter Brown. Y'all never heard that expression, drunk as Cooter Brown? No, Mark. No, your family is old. It's some Jim Crackchee. Yeah. I won't tell you all the story of Cooter Brown.
Starting point is 01:35:49 What did Armary say? Yo, who's... The legend was that Kuda Brown was supposed to be fighting a war either for the Union and Confederacy so he got so pissedly drunk than nobody so they didn't need the tie
Starting point is 01:35:58 would choose him and so they said drunk is Kuda Brown they were saying that Civil War joke You could try to educate us I don't know Because Koooolew They were there
Starting point is 01:36:08 They were there They're not They did You're free You're going to make us the Dummy For being dummies It's you
Starting point is 01:36:15 You know Harry Civil War Mark My great Cudor was cool. slaves yeah we got some of war jokes in the family but anyway yeah no i'm married did that i think it's okay to say because she's she's got all-timers now she won't remember this she um she came home uh to the house and she was drinking got drunk she got a little argument with my cousin uh john and said to him yo
Starting point is 01:36:36 that ain't your dad anyway and then john got mad was ready to kill her all this shit and then she got more drunk and just started to breaking down your real dad live here he was here he was up there you live up the street you know who you know who you know anybody else in his family got curly here, nigga. Well, she said green eyes, yeah, because it was a green out of Jamaican do. Yeah. So I've seen that happen
Starting point is 01:36:53 with a drunk mind-s and shit that we never heard before. That happened in black families too where you tell them all your secrets to the nigga and the family that's going to get the drunkest. And that's what they do when I'm married. Because she got drunk every week. Okay, but back to game and drama,
Starting point is 01:37:09 like Parks was saying. They're supposed to be putting out a project. This Friday, I had the pleasure of reading the track list. Track 12 being the assassination of Candace Owens is irresponsible and absolutely nuts to me.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Other than that, I look forward to the project. Well, even that, because I do want to hear what the fuck you're talking about. Normally, when you name a track that, the person has been assassinated. No, you know she just put out
Starting point is 01:37:33 some information that she got... Oh, wait, duh. I'm slow. She just put that out. I'm slow. Candice has been saying that people are trying to assassinate her. See, and that's when I get
Starting point is 01:37:46 for judging games. Twice. That is... That's all right. They ain't going to clip this part up. Yeah. That's going to get the first part. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:37:58 The first hour I have done enough. Anybody else, you'll have to leave it at my tombstone. They'll have clip this up. This isn't four dicks by now, buddy. Oh, for sure. Are you getting me? This is all. That nigga got sonosing.
Starting point is 01:38:12 Boy. There's an eagle. Just flying to his cell. Dropping some shit. Dropping this shit off. Yeah, yeah, it's over. It's over. That nigga wanted to kill me when we signed that Spotify deal right after that revoked shit.
Starting point is 01:38:31 No, he did not get it. He ain't get that at all. We announced the revolt state of the culture shit. The billboards up or whatever, a week later, Spotify was like, hey, the show button show. Boy, that nigga wanted to kill me in a year. Oh, man. Did he say something to you? You just heard the brief line.
Starting point is 01:38:49 No, I ain't know six of my... No, it's the time you sent people. No, no, no. Did he summon you? Me and them spoke a bunch, you know. Oh. He called. He could have tore Ian ass up.
Starting point is 01:39:00 And it might have been my birthday that year. You blame me? It was my birthday. You already know. You blame Ian? No, I don't blame me. We were taking that spot of ideas. No, he said when the phone would puff.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Like, look, it wasn't me. I didn't know. Well, no, if it wasn't my birthday, I'd have been at the front of the call, too. But we was at, uh, Lolithers. When it was Saboor, they had to run out there. Boy, that nigga was man. Anyway. And you, and you buttoned it.
Starting point is 01:39:26 Puff, this is going to make the show more value. You don't understand, Puff. You don't see the vision. It's going to make the show more powerful because it's going to take my audience and bring them over to your audience. I said that. We know.
Starting point is 01:39:37 I know you, nigga. Fuck you. Nick, turn the Gregory on. Nick, turn the Gregory Ones, quick. Wait, let me answer you something. This is just funny now. Is it cop in a plea if it's true? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:54 Can cop in a plea also be true? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. You got me then. You got me. How mad was he, though? Like, yellow, man.
Starting point is 01:40:04 He was mad. Did he poke? What do you think? I think he was bored in the jet to get the end. No, he was on his way. I mean, it made sense. Our plea made sense. And we believe it.
Starting point is 01:40:16 It was true. And it probably turned out to be true. No, for sure, 100% It turned out to be true, but he didn't understand. And Pufforda did the same thing in the same situation. See, that's speculative. But we can say that. Yeah, I mean, it's good business.
Starting point is 01:40:30 I'm just saying, like, ultimately, I think people can get overshifted. They know deep down it was the right move. If I give one of y'all a shitload of money and they put a billboard up. And the very next week, y'all sign with the Food Network. And they give you more money
Starting point is 01:40:48 and put up more billboards, I'm gonna have a talk with one of y'all too. Phone going to ring. Okay. Just a talk. Are you gonna do it? Oh, you're gonna ask is, are you not?
Starting point is 01:40:56 No, the turkey bacon, soup slate. You don't say? Because you could have told me first. But then they'll take away. But with that, it just happened to land around the same time. So in retrospect, you wish you would have had a conversation
Starting point is 01:41:08 in before he came to you? No. No, it happened. Hell no. You're talking. What are you talking? I was going to let him finish. I was.
Starting point is 01:41:16 I want to hear it. Look at me. Look at what I wanted him. We was going to answer the live form. No, nica. Oh, man. What the fuck was Corey at that time? Instead of he is.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Right. What were we talking about? Game and drama. Looking forward to them. Yes. Entirely produced by Mike and Keys. Five. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:47 Shout to like for you. I know problems featured on it. Oh, Jason. Jason. Jason Martin, pardon. But yeah, I'm waiting for it. I said, my trip in, I thought it was coming out last. I swear I was looking for it last week.
Starting point is 01:41:57 They announced that it was coming out last week. I made some phone calls to try to get it. And on Wednesday, I knew it wasn't coming out Friday. Got you. And now it's this Friday, so. So you didn't get it? Nope. You want to try to get tomorrow?
Starting point is 01:42:10 Your phone calls fell. No, no, no. It wasn't done to be. It wasn't done. Violence, ICE. Violence. Violence. Violence.
Starting point is 01:42:17 Violence. Violence. No. No. Not violins. Violence. They're violence. Did they answer?
Starting point is 01:42:21 Yes. You just didn't get it. It wasn't done. Stop playing my man. You're trying to play me, but I can't let you. You're trying to play with Free. So you get it when we get it. No.
Starting point is 01:42:32 They sit them to iTunes link. Actually. Free's got the connection. You already try I called to get it. I do. Nick, I'm going to call and get some fucking music. If I know niggas working on it, give me that shit. Now.
Starting point is 01:42:43 Hey, I'm so funny. What's you saying is true. So? You saw this show. Wow. I'm a good. All right. So now I really want to hear
Starting point is 01:42:53 here the assassination of the candidates. I want to hear this whole project. Because game don't miss on a project. Yeah, you don't ever miss. I love it. It's standing for years. One of the best overall discography's out there,
Starting point is 01:43:01 in my opinion. I agree. You know what I'm looking forward to... Is he a list rapper free to you? Yes. Because he said that in the thing. So I wanted to know. A list.
Starting point is 01:43:10 You mean like top tier. Yes. In terms of tapping? Yeah. No. Yes. In terms of talent. Yes.
Starting point is 01:43:15 Is celebrity? No. No. Or a brand? No. But just rapping ability? Rapability? Yes.
Starting point is 01:43:21 Ficking. A thousand percent. There's not a room in the world where people are rapping and he won't be elite. Yeah. And we'll keep up, if not outwrap. Liggers in that room. It might be some dudes nicer, maybe, but he belonged in any room. He belongs there.
Starting point is 01:43:37 That elite rapping is happening. That's the fact. Nice. Shout out the game. And he does that camellia. He can rhyme like anybody in the world. Almost if you're super dope, it's best to shut up around him. Leave him alone.
Starting point is 01:43:48 Because then you get on your track and sound like that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Game is one of them. That was a rough couple of weeks when me and him had to go back and forth. It was.
Starting point is 01:44:00 That is over. I could say it. You can fuck the Spade game on. 8,000 bars. Y'all too long. When did that ask? Yeah. And they'll go right back in.
Starting point is 01:44:13 Quiet as kept. I thought I could rap better than everybody. But I was hanging my hat on stamina and just ability to go. And then you bump into another nigger with stamina pause. Same shit. And got the same amount of energy
Starting point is 01:44:26 and time on his hands and love this year. Oh yeah. Oh yeah? $900 back to you. You're like, all right. You'll go. 900 and what? It's like, all right.
Starting point is 01:44:34 You wasn't supposed to do that. You were supposed to do a 16. I was supposed to say, oh, you can't keep my husband. He was supposed to wait. He was supposed to wait a little bit. All right. So now you do 900. I'm going to give you 900 the next day.
Starting point is 01:44:44 Now you're going to go give me 900 an hour later. It's like at some point. If you got a life, one of you will stop. Speaking of bars, y'all ready for this Cassidy versus Easy Joint? I'm a Philadelphia, so... No. I'll answer no.
Starting point is 01:45:00 Mark sound like such a square intro on some of this shit. Shut up, Mark. You're ready for this... Speaking of bars. You're ready for this Cassidy versus Easy Joint. I'm going to tell you, Mark, the best part of Cassidy battles is the face-off and everything leading up to the battle.
Starting point is 01:45:16 I don't need to watch the... the battle. He's great up until the battle starts. He was cooking him on Instagram. All of that. Up until the battle starts. And he starts rapping. Then I check out. Cassidy is absolutely destroying. Not that I would have put this right here at this block. Since we're here, though.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Cassidy is absolutely destroying easy-to-block captain in the pre-battle battle. Cassidy, you can't fuck with him in none of this. He is the absolute king of the pre-battle battle. All of that from the face-off. everything. From anything. Before the battle, if he decided to tweet,
Starting point is 01:45:53 if he decide to put a reel, anything he decides to do before a battle is Richard Pryor-like. Dog, I follow him on Instagram. Me too. He'd been putting on such a clinic.
Starting point is 01:46:07 I's all right. I can't miss none of this. I can't. No, he doesn't, they don't found, easy to block captains. Yearbook picture. Shit has to.
Starting point is 01:46:17 of it. But yeah, his yearbook picture. They found his best friend did an interview there. I guess he's from Pottsville. His whole thing is, Eiji Block Athens is not from Philadelphia. They don't found old battles where he admit he's not from Philadelphia. I've just learned way too much
Starting point is 01:46:33 about some picture where he's fucking got the slits in his beard looking all fucking crazy. Cassidy is. Yeah, he's killing him. Now, when the battle gets here, a little different. He's going to pay for some of this stuff. A lot of it.
Starting point is 01:46:49 Because this nigger can rap still. He's going to pay for some of this stuff at battle time. I was supposed to meet up with fucking Lucks and Mook last night. And I went right to sleep on them niggas. Right to bed. 8 o'clock mean 8 o'clock, sorry, I'm 40.
Starting point is 01:47:03 I knew he was lying last week when you showed him you're going to see it. I'm 45 years old. If I say 8 o'clock, it may 8 o'clock. But we're going to try to get in the night. I'm going to get with them. I'm going to get with them. So Casson got no chance of winning this battle, though? Not to me.
Starting point is 01:47:17 He got a chance. if easy choke if he ever had a if it was ever somebody with a bunch of shit to work with you got a lot to work with and Cassidy is funny he is well
Starting point is 01:47:29 unintentionally and intentionally Let me start with Cassidy can rap He can yes Like I feel like I'm doing him a disservice box Cassidy can rap Can he battle rap That to decide Maybe not
Starting point is 01:47:39 Okay But I mean his record would indicate otherwise What's his record? I got him above five or at 500. Oh, because he's six. What do you say? No, stop, stop.
Starting point is 01:47:51 I thought that's what you was talking about. Let's not get crazy. I thought, okay. Let's not get crazy. I think it's just out. When is this battle? I think it's just outdated. Yes.
Starting point is 01:47:59 That's it. That's very outdated. Cassidy is hilarious. He still can rap and I think he's great. He beat a murder charge. And hip hop, that's all you need is to be funny and had beaten a murder. And a couple of hit records all hurt. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:12 That don't, a hit record. You got more. You got more than a couple. He has quite a few. No, it do mean something. Yes, it do. Yes, it do. Yes, it do.
Starting point is 01:48:19 In battle, there's never a world. Yes, yes, it do. Yes, it do. What would it mean? It means that I have a million more angles to sun you and make you look like you just inexperienced, never made, never succeeded.
Starting point is 01:48:38 And then I can say all of that and say, you're standing right here talking to me. Have you started talking to me? So what's all your hit records brought you right here? When you would be at these live joints, does the crowd, is the crowd going to give you more? favor and grace because you're a star outside of the battle? Or it's the opposite?
Starting point is 01:48:54 Not in this case. Are they rooting against you? Not in this case. Sometimes it depends on if who, like, if you want a card and maybe somebody home field advantage or might not know this person that much, then yeah. In this case, that ain't going to matter.
Starting point is 01:49:06 It's a boo you. You started talking about some platinum albums and you got on some old timbulins. I am going to roof you. Okay, but if I start talking about platinum albums and I have new timbreins on, then what? What you drove here? I'm gonna find an angle, nigga. I'm just giving it an example.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Y'all are correct. It will always be a rebut. I'm on the side of the guy that has hit records and can rap as being able to come up with more angles. If you was a fan of me growing up, if I was on TV while you was, where was you when I was like, it's too much. It's just too much shit. Hold on, hold on. If you had hit records 20 years ago and you've had five battles in that time frame, give or take, six, whatever. And I've been at a high clip for a minute.
Starting point is 01:49:54 That shit ain't going to help you. Yeah, you get stage me. None of that's going to help you. What's the fat nigga from, I think any angle you could think of can be helpful to you. You also stand in a ping pong. No, no, you're right. You're right with that.
Starting point is 01:50:06 But you got to come better than that. But you're standing across a killer. You standing across from a killer. Easy still a killer. All right, he is. But the killer has given Cassidy an address, his work schedule, where his girl is. He's giving him a lot.
Starting point is 01:50:20 I don't know for sure. Now we'll see. I still think that easy is one of them. So come battle time, this may look a little different. I just, I've seen this. I've seen Cassidy be amazing.
Starting point is 01:50:32 Like I say, face off, everything lead up to the battle. And then once he gets on that stage, it's Cassidy from 2003 rapping. And that ain't going to work. And this has happened time after time after time after time. So yeah,
Starting point is 01:50:48 all of this other shit is great. You win in right now. When y'all standing across with each other on stage, if you bring 2003 nigga up here again like you've been doing, pack him up. I also think, right,
Starting point is 01:51:00 and I'm with some of what you're saying, like it depends on what happens night of the fight, and I won't hold y'all too long with all this shit. But normally with hit records comes different experience too, though. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:51:11 Like, so there could be a situation where, I'm not saying this happened, but where the lights may be too bright. If Cassidy starts saying this might be your biggest battle ever, if he's just started getting into certain shit because he's more, I think it's Keith Sweb Bobby Brown. I always say that.
Starting point is 01:51:30 I think it's Keith Sweat Bobby Brown. The kid who's been rapping and on a tear but you're not like that. You're not like that. Cassidy's just doing his version and not like us with easy. That's all he'd have been doing for the pre-battle. You're not like us. You're from Pottsville. You went to Pottsville High.
Starting point is 01:51:46 Stop it. When we were doing this, when I was beating my murder case, you were eating peanut butter and just in the pre-batter chain, it sounds fly. It does, it sounds fly. I ain't gonna lie. I'm not saying to the work. Until you're not like us point, when
Starting point is 01:52:02 not like us the song came out, it was still good. So I say all that is Cassidy could do all that. You still have to get on that stage and perform, bro. And nothing has shown me that that's what he does. There you have it. We got it.
Starting point is 01:52:17 I ain't know. We did it. We did it. We know. We know. We did. Mark brought it up. That niggins ought to beat shit down. Mark brought up and shut up. You get old. I'm learning.
Starting point is 01:52:24 I can listen. Speaking of bars, you guys. There's a pretty hot battle coming up. Taking away. Throw that and walk away. Come on. Let's get to. And then one intro the topic that we need him to intro.
Starting point is 01:52:38 Frank Sinatra? Oh, shit. We can do that too? Y'all be waiting. Speaking of knobs. So apparently Frank Sinatra. I love that this is your turn. The criminalism expertise.
Starting point is 01:52:52 No, the funniest shit is what is written on the board. Frank Sinatra holding. You know, that's correct. What Mark said. You know, that's crazy. Brother Mark. Yeah, Mark, go ahead. He was excited to tell us about this shit.
Starting point is 01:53:07 Speaking of bars. It rods. Wow. Crazy. Go ahead. Wait to tell us. So the news hit yesterday. No, it did.
Starting point is 01:53:18 No, it did. No, it did. news hit. Fuck out of here. Okay. Anyway, Joe, you brought this topic up this morning. You said it's something you wanted us to talk about,
Starting point is 01:53:25 so I'm just trying to get through the show. It's literally the first thing on the board, y'all. I don't, I don't, I, know, we caught. Not Afghanistan, not Trump. Not the ditty doc. But why he couldn't just drag Parks
Starting point is 01:53:36 who they had this talk? I didn't have no Frankton Nautra got to use a shit talk. Oh, because he's been jabbing for the last five minutes. I got to. All right, fine. I'll take it. Not in the dick conversation. Not in the day conversation.
Starting point is 01:53:49 Submitted. Submitted. It's a man fast, too. Like, ooh, I'll take it. What a bitch. Anyway, if y'all know Paul Anka, one of the really important singer and songwriters of the 20th century,
Starting point is 01:54:02 who wrote my way, by the way, for Frank Sinatra. For Usher? No. That would be funny. You got a piss for me. Singles. Yeah. And so.
Starting point is 01:54:11 What's my way? I did it my way. That's on, nigga. I thought that was Elvis, nigga. But Elvis did. Elvis did the version as well. You know a lot of this. Yo, why?
Starting point is 01:54:22 That's a long way of it as well. I had an AM station, they get to tell you. So Paul Anka, I'm not sure why, but Paul Anka did an interview or had a conversation where he confirmed
Starting point is 01:54:33 that Frank Sinatra has a very large penis. I have a quote. What? I had trouble with eye contact. I said before noting that Sinatra had nothing on Milton Burrell.
Starting point is 01:54:45 Crazy of all people. Apparently his second wife, Ava Garter. previously described her husband as having a 19 pound penis. Yes. She says 110 pounds, but his pieces.
Starting point is 01:54:55 Wait, Frank or Milton? Milton. That sound like the name. No, no, no. Milton barrel. No, no. You're drilling some shit. Hey, Milton Burrow is laying shit down.
Starting point is 01:55:07 I ain't a lot of it. 19 pounds of cock. I just know, little old-ass Milton Burrell. You know, that's hilarious. So apparently they used to hang out in the sauna. This is how it happened. And in the sauna.
Starting point is 01:55:18 Got me looking at these. Ian and Mark shows a little different. But nobody was showing in that show. Regular poundage. Bad son to see him. Didn't see a thing. He's giving Tony Bennett not a...
Starting point is 01:55:34 Oh, shit. Boney Bennett. So they were the song, and I guess back then they would notice each other's size, and Frank Sinatra already had a huge... Franks, he had a reputation, a very well-known reputation in Hollywood
Starting point is 01:55:48 for having a large penis. among the women, including his ex-wife. And then Milton Burrell was another one of those people. And so for some reason yesterday, Paul Anker, who has a doc coming out soon, called my way. Oh, I thought it was about the dicks. That's a different doc. We wanted people to know, he confirmed it. He confirmed it.
Starting point is 01:56:06 I guess I'm not sure why this was such big news to people. My question to y'all, because I don't know. I'm not a sauna expert, and I know what they'd be saying out there about. You sauna, you saw a bro. Shout out to Ian. But I'll ask y'all. Are you supposed to have a hard dick in the sauna? No.
Starting point is 01:56:23 That's what I would. I don't think it was hard. If it's 19 pounds. If it's 19 pounds flat, you got a problem. But I think in the sauna they were just saying, just on the sleep. Just, yeah. Like on the strivel.
Starting point is 01:56:37 In a sauna, they're saying Frank was still holding. No, nigga. If one of them niggas come in the sauna, I'm out. Why would I sit there? What? Well, that's what Paul was saying. That's why he couldn't have eye contact with Frank. He said after he saw that all that, he couldn't, he was intimidated.
Starting point is 01:56:56 Oh, man. Shit that make the news. All right, so let me ask you all a question. The niggas do be intimidated. I'm getting the fuck out of there. Are you kidding me? So, this is a safe space, right? No.
Starting point is 01:57:12 No, no, no. But it's fine. Go ahead. Do y'all, do y'all be in gyms and so on us? Have you ever known? No, no, no, no, no, gyms. I be in the gym. The gym.
Starting point is 01:57:25 I bet it's on us, too, and I've never encountered a 19-pound penis. But y'all see penises, right? When you go to the locker? No. No, not really. You've never been on a team sport and accidentally inadvertently? No. Ish, don't you mute up after the conversation's all spot.
Starting point is 01:57:42 Not these cool niggas here. Go ahead, keep going. And he got the nerve to be making a face. So if you could speak to the side that way. And you was on a basketball team, right? when you were 4 11 or some shit? I was just listening to y'all live, but go ahead. What don't you speak the truth?
Starting point is 01:57:55 Speak truth to power. I was waiting for him. Speak truth. Beans. God, I'm listening. So, I mean, it's just sort of like what the dancers know is moot, but I was just going to say, like, y'all have you ever seen something to make you be like, oh, shit?
Starting point is 01:58:07 It's like in Timothy. No. Oh, shit. You're going to say, oh, salute. All right, nigga. That's what you're saying. What? Wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:58:16 Wait a minute. Tuesdays are back. You said, you put that one. You said, what. You're putting that work in, you know you need a tag deep partner. Listen, the greatest. You go and dab him up. You go and dab him up.
Starting point is 01:58:28 You said salute, nigga. You're holl the big dog. I know you put that work in. No, the niggins you're going to be a big man? You call on big man? Nah, I don't do all that. But not, some niggins, listen, I know what he's talking about. Get this, JR.
Starting point is 01:58:40 Oh, shit. She's not saying me my son gay? No. How he talks about Jay-R-R-D-G? No, he's the camera man. He's the cameraman. Watch your fucking my man. Don't punch me.
Starting point is 01:58:51 Yeah, but I say salute, nigga? Oh, yo, why would you say that? Because you got to respect. You pointed out, too. No, listen. Let me paint the scene for you. It's funny, he'd be saluting the mid, too. He'd be saluting the backyard bookie day.
Starting point is 01:59:09 Oh, shit. Listen, listen, paint the scene. You know what I'm saying? No. No, look. Please let him. Please let a paint the scene. Listen, listen, a lot of times
Starting point is 01:59:18 growing up niggas would put work in in group settings right? You know what I'm talking about? Okay One of the niggas maybe maybe holding more than others
Starting point is 01:59:30 so when you go out the room that old nigga you put that work in salute You know what I'm saying? That's not gay Y'all won't watch your hands first You salute your man Yeah
Starting point is 01:59:37 You took in a pal town What? No I want to stay on this topic too for me for me. We got to do you So what are you supposed on me, nigga?
Starting point is 01:59:46 I apologize That's all right, sorry What are you saluting them for, just to be clear? He put it work. He put that word. Like the quality of the strokes? No. Everybody's not intimidated like you, bro.
Starting point is 01:59:54 This is what I'm saying. I'm not intimidated. You gotta go put that work in. I don't have group sex with dudes. So I, so I. You never ran a train with a girl? No. Oh, I was in the cold.
Starting point is 02:00:04 I forgot. My fault, I take that back. No, I just had sex with women. Ooh, even at the young age. If I'm in a cold, I'm doing a train. Especially when that calls, whole business. If I'm in a car. Hey, Wayne.
Starting point is 02:00:18 A train is going down. You might have been in the kamburess. No. No disrespect to the women out there. Let me just be clear. Let me just say something. No disrespect. Because trains means different things in different places.
Starting point is 02:00:27 You mean a consensual group sex. Yes. No, no. I'm saying that to the audience and all later. I'm just saying it. It's just saying. It's what I just saying.
Starting point is 02:00:34 It's what I just said. It's what I'm trying to say. And what Flip is explaining to y'all is that he was in the middle of it. You just trying to dig his friend. Yo. Yo. You got a snubber thing. You got a hook.
Starting point is 02:00:47 You. You said niggins on your caboose. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying what they take the... No, don't hit me, please. I'm not saying that. Chew-chew. Yo.
Starting point is 02:01:00 Yo, two-hour hiss, got train noises. No, I'm not saying that silly. Yo, niggas being disrespectful. Nah, they say nothing, bro. I'm saying normally in the consensual train, I hate society that you have to say consensual train. But in the consensual train, I was either very first or very last.
Starting point is 02:01:25 You thought I was in the middle. Wow. Watch your fucking. Middle is better than last of the train. There was never a time where I was coming in the consensual train. Who was the one of the caboose? Wait a way. You was dead last?
Starting point is 02:01:36 You could clean up man? Yeah, and he kissed him. And he kissed him. Oh, dear. What? Damn, girl. What he did? He made a.
Starting point is 02:01:46 Niggum, nigga, love to her shit like that. I don't know. Look, look. Look at him. Two hours. I ain't going to treat you like this. What he did?
Starting point is 02:02:01 Tell me your story. You get mad at him when you get out. Joe, you've been in it for two hours, nigga. Get the fuck out. You've been in it for two hours, man. Constalling her.
Starting point is 02:02:12 This is funny? The truth is way funny. And what's true? If I'm last in the train I was talking I was talking to them It was never sex Oh shit
Starting point is 02:02:26 I wouldn't do it You did an interview I was it What was your favorite Which one was your favorite What was England now Was there any Franks and I'm in the room Or are you
Starting point is 02:02:37 Are you good? Are you okay? Are you good? You really downed this shit After one of them I learned quickly today life wasn't three. One of them shit, I stepped to my niggas like, yo, why are we doing?
Starting point is 02:02:50 Why are y'all doing? You pressed their niggins in the middle of the train. Listen, I was, when this is going on, I'm 14, everybody's older. They're picking the girl up from high school at lunchtime. Like, I'm 14, but very shortly after that, no one I realized.
Starting point is 02:03:07 I could just beg who I want and fuck them. Like, we no longer need to go out, get in the Chevy. You need a coupon. Groupon the pussy. Got five on it.
Starting point is 02:03:21 Yeah, yeah. We didn't need to do that no more. I would go to the same schools. Hey, niggins and just do my own one too. You niggins are fucking freaks, nut-ass freak boys. But flip, just before we lead it to this. Yeah. Mark ain't let this shit go.
Starting point is 02:03:36 No, no, but you say in the middle of all of that, if you saw somebody who was well-endowed, you would shout them out. Not in the middle. When everything is done. Not the middle. When is it acceptable? Oh, it's all done. At the end, that's better.
Starting point is 02:03:49 I'm not accepted. Yo, by the way. Hey, yo, listen, I saw you. Earlier. Yo, you, I saw you. I didn't know you had all that. How you walk with that, yo? Look at you.
Starting point is 02:04:00 Look at you guys. No, no, no, no. How you can hold all that, right? Look at you all. That niggas is whisperers. Look at you. I get credit what credit is due, man. You think credit was due, though?
Starting point is 02:04:10 That's my head. I can put that work in salute. Okay. There's nothing about your shape, say that you was. walking in like on some bone crush attention. Hey, yo listen.
Starting point is 02:04:21 On your Clint Eastwood. They sandwiched that nigga in the train like the bad verse in the song, boy. Oh, man. Oh, my God, yo. I didn't need to know this about, about, was Frank Sinatra bisexual?
Starting point is 02:04:35 No. No, nigga, I told you. We got to ask Quincy. I'm not saying. Quincy never, you know, he never just mentioned it. Oh, no, but he worked with it. So he might not, he would be able to play. A lot of people would say,
Starting point is 02:04:45 No, Conce's Quincy. The last few years of Quincy was everything. Giving it up, yeah. Literally. And, but no, I read all his biographies. No one has ever suggested that. That was a shady literally. I don't want that literally to go on. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 02:05:01 You're shady. Mark is a game. Right. Shady, messy. Oh, all the same. He's all the things. That's what he's doing. They catch it later.
Starting point is 02:05:10 And none of his little educator friends seem to know it. No. They don't see that sign. Take that angel. No, no, it's real friends, though. In the house, they knew. In the house, they knew what Tommy was on. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:20 But, no, Frank is just, it's all based on the song. It's all based on the kind of stuff we're talking about. We do is just hanging around in a homo social space, which all of us, you know, hanging out, kicking it. And sometimes you just notice things. If my dick was like that, I would be in the sauna, too. Yeah, let the thing hang. I would.
Starting point is 02:05:34 Yeah, fuck it. Just on some show-outs. That's all right. That's a little around. Yeah. Hell, it's real hot here today, fellas. You know, Richard Price said, dick. Nigger with the big meat
Starting point is 02:05:46 just come in the urine and we'd be standing back in here. Like, me, niggas, be in the urinal like this. Niggins said, they come in like a party, dog. I'll make my shit to the left. That's crazy, yo. You would be in the song of showing off.
Starting point is 02:06:00 Big dick, niggas just going to make me not talk to her no more. You can have it. It's cool. It's like you're putting a bat inside of you, bitch. Oh, that's what you want? Yeah, I'm cool. Yeah, you're a Martian. You're a alien bitch.
Starting point is 02:06:13 You're a alien bitch. That's your type of shit you? Fuck you. Crazy is that. Yeah. TLC said it. Stick to the rivers and the lakes. That you used to.
Starting point is 02:06:20 Streams in this case, maybe. I'm, I'm skinny dipping, nigga. I want it all. You're crazy, sad. That's back when you used to dream. I mean? Skinny dipping and shit, huh?
Starting point is 02:06:32 What? He do want all the pussy. You think I wouldn't go behind another nigga because they... No, we don't... Nobody thinks that about you. Nobody... It's not one person that's saying
Starting point is 02:06:42 his ain't going behind his man. You said what? That shit, yo, I'm realizing a lot about you. So, it was an era where you would just fuck behind your men. Fucking behind Milton Burroughs is wild. Yo, that's great. I'm madge, bitch. It's old.
Starting point is 02:07:00 No, that's not. That's not what we're saying. He said, yo, if a nigga got big dick, you wouldn't fuck behind him. And I said, yo, you fuck that guy doing me. Because you got a big one yourself. I'm not going not fucking behind a nigg. All right. Make this doubt.
Starting point is 02:07:12 All right. So, Malagra. It's right to turn to the meat respect. Jesus. It's crazy. I big you up, nigga. Fuck these niggins.
Starting point is 02:07:23 They're secure, nigga. I big my son up. We need to dig him up for. What are you picking them up for? We know what he bakes people up for. All right. All right. I'll tell you, some of the wrong peer
Starting point is 02:07:35 of A-Lo bottoms show your shit on extreme nap time. You ain't. Super sleep. Super sleeping. Hey, you were in. Hey, you're white. Niggas is fucking around with these ALO outfits.
Starting point is 02:07:49 On Thanksgiving, I had two 18-year-olds and Kino coming in with that quarter-zip A-Zip A-L-L-Shit. I'm just telling you, A-Lo, niggas, some of the bottoms. Hey, bro, you know. You're watching. It's cock washing. Yeah, what are you talking about? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:06 You all are confused. Where did you don't get there from? You just remember the things that had the A-L-L bottom at your shit. Quarter-Zip and a lot. matcha is the thing out there. I know you don't have. No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying that from bottoms.
Starting point is 02:08:20 Show your shit. Yeah, you meet watch. Some of them. No, I buy them. What are y'all talking about? Oh, you say your shit be on sleep. All right, you guys got it, man. You'll take the gay stuff too far sometimes.
Starting point is 02:08:31 No, but you got to hear what you said. Listen back to it. Put a rewire, whatever that's thing. I get where the confusion happened, but the joke was on you, so I just let it rock. Man, on Thanksgiving. That's what you're doing? Like,
Starting point is 02:08:43 that makes it sick. You know, you're the one said it? Hey. He's going to turkey leg. That's a thing. Come on, man. No, I said it because sometimes
Starting point is 02:08:54 I could grab the wrong A-low bottoms going to work out and it's mirrors all in the chair. Oh, shit. And they complain? You know what? Megastallion. Megastallion has won
Starting point is 02:09:08 her case versus he's such a bitch we did it we did it we did it magna's dalyan has one kind of won her case against uh malagro
Starting point is 02:09:23 for defamation and a few other things I got all this shit in my phone I ain't pulling it up I got it you do it mark she wants 75K no right it was even less than that's 56
Starting point is 02:09:32 I think it's 50 something yeah 59 yeah 59 that's right the judge hasn't decided that hasn't said the actual number but the federal jury sided with her and agreed that a blogger defamed and harassed her.
Starting point is 02:09:44 Jure's initially awarded Megan 75,000, which district judge indicated could change in her final written judgment. So we don't know what the final number is going to be. But there were a couple questions on the trial, one of which was whether Milagra counted as a journalist. Right. Because that was part of the debate.
Starting point is 02:10:02 You know, like who, what's the duty of the person doing to talking? But ultimately, they ruled in Megan's favor. I think Megan wanted a lot more. or we know Megan wanted a lot more money than that. And I don't know how I feel about the amount. That's not really my thing. But she clearly was defamed. They said that she was being used as a proxy.
Starting point is 02:10:17 Megan alleged that she was being used as a proxy. Well, we don't know if she was defamed yet. Megan Cunliff, the court reporter, says that the judge is still waiting to determine if the judge sees it as the jury did. The jury said, uh, Malagro is media. And we have to see what the judge thinks. A Malagro's attorney put out a statement that said the judge agreed that, she is media so the defamation case will be dropped. That's all they're waiting on for the defamation part of it.
Starting point is 02:10:45 It's the revenge porn thing that's going to be, or whatever they call it, right? That's going to be the bigger issue. None of it was a big issue. I just don't think that you could put out porn of someone else, whether it's AI or not, and use a media personality as a fair use. It says here, a jury has found Malago liable for defaming Megan Estuary intentionally inflicting emotional distress by coordinating with tort. for Rory Lanes and for promoting the deep fake video.
Starting point is 02:11:12 Yeah. So, yeah, they found a liable for that. But again, it's still waiting for the judge's final. Yeah, but that's about the sentencing is. I mean, that's about the judge, the award. Award, yeah. Yeah, but I mean, I'm glad. I mean, I think it says a good precedent.
Starting point is 02:11:26 Take the Tory Lane stuff off the table. Take the Megan and Stein stuff off the table for a minute. Just in terms of journalist defaming public figures. Putting out revenge porn about people, whether it's AI or not. These are things, that's a precedent we don't want to say, whether we like the person or don't like the person, and agree with them or don't agree with them. And I happen to support Megan Estagian.
Starting point is 02:11:42 I support her this entire time. But even if I didn't, I'd be saying this. This ain't about that. If someone did the story, I'd say the same thing. Yeah, I'm with you. I agree 100% with that. Now, she spent a lot of money to get that $75,000. That's true.
Starting point is 02:11:59 So at some point, you've got to ask yourself. Should I pay a lawyer fees too, right? Yeah. But she's going to have it. Yeah. So this is where it gets interesting. So some people, it ain't about getting. It's like, again, I'm sending a message, bro.
Starting point is 02:12:11 If you got it like that. great. I'm all about going for the principal and spending the money to do it if I have it. But if you don't, I don't know Megan's pockets. I think she's aligned with the right people that got it. Okay.
Starting point is 02:12:25 They'll spend it to get to. Oh, then didn't it, then go for it. You think the Cardi case was the motivation? Like, just, I think that Um, oh, Natasha. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:12:38 Like, yo, these people wake up every single day and see people saying just the worst shit that they could have, possibly say, it's like, yo, enough is enough. I'm going to try to put it into it. Because Cardi got awarded four mil, right? Yes. So I'm assuming that Meg thought she would have probably got,
Starting point is 02:12:57 you know what I mean, in the ballpark? Well, she was asking for $30 million. Meg. So if they were to settle that three or four, it would have been, you know what I mean, an aha moment at that point. I don't think she thought she was going to get $70,000. Yeah, no, it's not worth it financially.
Starting point is 02:13:12 But again, you're setting the precedent. Yeah, I agree. I think some of these, I'm not even saying Malaga, just in general, some of these people cross a line with, it'd be personal with some of these attacks on celebrities. And sometimes they cross a line, and folks want to, you can't do that. So now you've got to be punished for it.
Starting point is 02:13:32 And I think that that needs to be, I'm with the president being said. Me too. Like, yeah, you can dislike me all you want. But once you cross a line, like in the Cardi, instance, you're discussing medical diagnoses and shit. Like, you've crossed the line. Same thing with Meg.
Starting point is 02:13:49 You're promoting deep fake porn videos. You've crossed the line. Yeah, but one of the points of contention were, if I'm media and I have crossed the line, then before you file, you have to send me a cease and this, which you did not. Right. That is one of the points that they want that still. I agree. I'm just saying if the line has crossed, though, there are things you're supposed I'm with it.
Starting point is 02:14:10 So now some procedural misconduct. because as protocol or procedure, you're supposed to send me a cease and desist and give me the opportunity to take it down? And they didn't do it. Yeah, if I'm media, which is why they're waiting to see as she's rude media.
Starting point is 02:14:25 I think it's a win for Milagra. I mean, I'm not going to get into it because the clippers are just waiting to clip me up talking about some magic shit and I'm over it. But I don't see how it's not a win for Milagra. Well, that was going to be my question. Do you run the risk of amplifying somebody's voice
Starting point is 02:14:42 and expanding their platform by doing this. I don't know how big Milagos was before this, but I can't imagine she's not much bigger and if she only had to pay $75,000. Well, let's not do that because she will be liable for the attorney fees
Starting point is 02:14:55 and that's where they're going to bang her at. Fair enough. But even that's payable. That's all I'm saying. It's payable when you have an audience and Milagro does. She has an audience. She's good at what she does.
Starting point is 02:15:05 I think this is a learning lesson for her because I was one of the first people to say it's not the wow, West, you can't just start doing and saying anything out. If we are media, we got to be held to a certain standard. But Milagra has a huge audience. She's really talented,
Starting point is 02:15:19 and I don't see how any of this hurts her. Like, I went, how? Let's say the attorney fees are half a mill. A, by and just sitting on 600,000, 600,000 liquid. I'm not saying she is, but she's already raised
Starting point is 02:15:37 money in support of what she's doing. She has an audience to where, as, That's not so, that's not such a daunting day. And if you add half a million views, if you add, and if my audience goes up, yeah, if my audience goes increases from this, then I don't, I don't see it in that sense. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying because that's what you were asking me for 30 million. Uh-huh. How do you not walk out of their high-fiving your attorney?
Starting point is 02:16:03 No, I get it based on what you were facing, but it's like somebody saying, yo, I was looking at 20 years, but I only got five. Still five. Some motherfuckers be like, yeah, five. Five is five, my nigga, like that shit ain't no... Yeah, but she got parole, I think, is the point. Yeah. Relative, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:16:18 In a lifetime movie. Yeah. I guess maybe, I guess that's contingent upon what, which, how much money she got? Then, because $600,000, let's say, I know Meg ain't got the cheap attorneys. No. You know what I mean? And then the attorneys on purpose will probably bump up the bill and hours on purpose to stick it to you some more.
Starting point is 02:16:37 You know what I'm saying? And so... I just think. think if your platform expands where I think hers will from this, it might is probably still worth it. It would justify it. Yeah. And I'm not saying you should do it. Again, I think what she did was awful. But if your calculus is,
Starting point is 02:16:50 how can I get more famous and more wealthy? This probably still worked out for her. And this don't always go this way. So like you said, this just worked out for her. Yeah. Because you could have got banged for that 30. You got bang for that 30. Or now, that was totally different. Totally different conversation. Listen, Milan Girl is online painting herself to be
Starting point is 02:17:06 the new modern day fucking martyr and fucking savior and I fought the war for all of us and we are changing the media landscape and the rules I mean both sides are doing their own twist I think
Starting point is 02:17:24 Milagros is just a lot more believable plot twist to Joe Button is saying that they got all types of Joe Button Meg hit pieces on me going around yeah I saw some nasty shit I saw too but I don't care if they know y'all know where I stand with this lady like I don't think I need to
Starting point is 02:17:38 I'm going to keep saying nothing. And that's perfectly fun. Yeah. Hey, I'm on this side of that. People act like you're not allowed to do that. So whatever. There's a quick trial. It's quick.
Starting point is 02:17:51 They got to it. You got to appreciate a quick trial. You have to. Yeah. Well, a week. Week and a half. Yeah, something like that. Nice and fast.
Starting point is 02:18:01 See, if it was two weeks, I'm done talking about that. I'm done. Anyway, move on. What else we got? This is Russell Wilson. story is interesting to me. I didn't know a lot about the dude that was talking about him. That's not really my world.
Starting point is 02:18:15 Did you all hear this story? No, no, no. I heard. So a former NFL player, which is weird for me is like, what the fuck are we doing here? Exactly. Trayvon Boykin talked about when he was a teammate of Russell Wilson, and he went to his house. And he said, I went to Russell Wilson's house for Thanksgiving, the weirdest feeling. and like he catered.
Starting point is 02:18:38 I come from a traditional country as black family doing that. If I got as much money as Russell Wilson, my whole family would talk about me so bad if I ain't fly everybody out there for Thanksgiving and I'm sponsored by airline. Maybe he's just not close to his family. Maybe he's not, but his mama wasn't there.
Starting point is 02:18:52 Sisters wasn't there. You know what I'm saying? Even though like still weird to me. He said, I'm still, even if you don't fool with your family, like it's still weird to me on Thanksgiving. My family are going to do the food. This is what we're going to do.
Starting point is 02:19:02 If you're going with the money, we come into your house. So he basically spent a lot of time talking about how weird The Thanksgiving setup was at Russell Wilson's house. Do we know who he sat with to say this? Do we know what interview this was? It wasn't clear to me, but I didn't like that.
Starting point is 02:19:15 I didn't see that either because his name just went flying around. Yeah. But, dog. It was a podcast, though. That's the problem in America. Podcasts? Podcast. That's the problem.
Starting point is 02:19:27 The House of Playmakers. See, all right. Anyway, what do you think about this? I think two things. I think it's corny. I think it's corny in whack to take someone's invitation to thank you. given, go over there and then talk shit about what you saw when you're there.
Starting point is 02:19:41 Let's some wild shit. I mean, some real wild shit happen. Just because I'm not talking, I just think it's a bad guess. I think if you're not being raised well to me, or not, I mean, I'll say that. It's not a sign of good manners. You're talking shit talking about the niggas food was catered. I'm used to cooking.
Starting point is 02:19:55 I mean, the nigger could have been looking you out. Why you ain't go with your family and get some home cooking there? Right. You know what I'm saying? If that's what you want, go there, my nigga. You ain't had to come over here. Yeah. Or he up.
Starting point is 02:20:07 and got catered food. No, no, no, I'm with that. I'm talking about the nigga that's hating on it. I know. I'm talking about Russell Wilson had catered food. My nigga, like, who are you the shit on that? It's in the middle of football season. Yeah, I'm getting catered food.
Starting point is 02:20:18 In the middle of football season, my wife is up, and we got kids, and she might not have had the opportunity to cook a house full of food. And there's a million reasons why my family might not have flown to wherever city we happen to be in. Somebody allegedly, you know, you can't tell the internet these days, but it was saying that his sister played, college sports and had a game and the family was here at the game. So that's why she wasn't there at the house.
Starting point is 02:20:43 Right. But again, so what? Yeah, so what. I don't give a fuck if they were just at home watching fucking the parade. The thing about the story to me was less about the Thanksgiving story of it because, you know, whatever, people talk shit.
Starting point is 02:20:56 It's something about Russell Wilson that gets people mad. Every time. Every time. And that's the thing I'm trying to get at. And, you know, the popular theory is because he's clean cut and he takes care of his family and he's God-fearing. He's all these great things
Starting point is 02:21:08 and everybody who ain't shit hates him because he's a reflection on them. That could be the answer, but that could be too simple too. That's what I'm going to get a sense from y'all. Why do y'all think so many people hate on Russell? I just think it's pretty much that.
Starting point is 02:21:18 He don't fit what the norm of that dude is. He don't fit that. Because the Jealousy? The prototype of what, just that type of dude, the clean cut, the God-fearing, the take care of my family,
Starting point is 02:21:32 everything like, and again, a lot of people love future, they love to compare it to, all that bullshit. The name. He's the exact opposite of what niggas think is cool. Yeah, a lot of the guys that be super like religious square,
Starting point is 02:21:47 for lack of a better term, get flack in the football world. Unfairly, probably. And they're like Jose, once you tag lame, the game is follow a little leader. So he's been tag lame. So now it's just cool to call that, call Russell Wilson at. Would you smile at age? Joe. Smiling it, Joe.
Starting point is 02:22:09 Yeah. Oh, you miss our trains. Yo. Yeah, go, I got a sauna. Y'all. Oh, man. Go on the old green eyes. Look at the old green eyes.
Starting point is 02:22:26 Oh, I need to do. Let me see. No, what else is about to say? My question for the room. So, y'all don't think that Russell Wilson has been just a dick at any point. Oh, he might be. Totally. That's entirely possible.
Starting point is 02:22:40 Because all this bullshit pot of shit, y'all's, oh. He's so cool. And hey, he represents everything that people ain't. Okay, all of that's cool. But do you also think? I don't know. Because my first time hearing about people hating him came from the fucking Legion of Legion of Boom where they cited very valid reasons why they hated him.
Starting point is 02:23:04 So if it's coming from like football players. But they know him. I'm talking about his niggas. that ain't never seen, met Russell Wilson, nothing, no, no, no, anything about him who got a lot to say about him. So we're talking about, like, the internet people or strangers or people that don't matter
Starting point is 02:23:19 talking about Russell, and why do we think that is? Okay, then y'all are right. Or even maybe football players we didn't play with him. I mean, some people just don't like him. You know what I mean? He seems to inspire a certain kind of hate that I don't quite get. If I was a Denver fan, I would hate him. Like, I could keep thinking of instances
Starting point is 02:23:35 where those people can hate him. I think there's a legit reason. If you're a Bronco fan, Hey, Russell Wilson. That shit worked out for the Broncos. Well, yeah, losing works out. Yeah. Losing works out.
Starting point is 02:23:49 Just the process. You hear that Steelers? It's okay. Fucking assholes. My back. Go ahead. I'm sure there's plenty of good reasons to not like him. Just like there's plenty of good reason not to like any of us.
Starting point is 02:23:58 You know what I mean? And I've heard teammates say things like he had, you know, he kept himself distant from teams separate from team, made his own. I heard all the things that made people not fuck with him. But like you said, a lot of the hate I see ain't about that. Yeah, it's not that, bro. It's not that. But why did this topic
Starting point is 02:24:11 hit so close to home for you? Yeah, what the hell? I don't know. I don't understand. It seemed like, no, right? It's weird until you figure out why Mark could be bringing this.
Starting point is 02:24:21 I'm like, where are going with this, man? If you really think about why he could be bringing this up. Yeah. I just like. This one really hit his heart. I like to know your opinions
Starting point is 02:24:29 about these things. What are you like? What was it? Like, tell us. There's nothing to share. I'm good. No, you know, it's looking Mark like the fucking
Starting point is 02:24:37 square, corny guy who never got no bids chis. He's a squib, but he's not corny. He's a squid, but he's not corny. I could be all those things. And he could turn the square off. He could become a fucking... Yeah, I don't think Mark is nothing.
Starting point is 02:24:50 He got your fool. He got a lot of money. He got anybody fools. He got anybody fools. It's a trick. He had me fool. I'm like, oh shit, this nigga's a nigger. Yeah, but dark ain't ever got no pussy.
Starting point is 02:25:00 It was always Mark. Dark ain't never leave with the darkness. How to get you! And get you. I had to get you. He had to get you. He had to get shit. Mark, he figured out.
Starting point is 02:25:12 That's a talent. The fuck are you talking about? Mark, can you relate to Russell Wilson? And this, have people looked at you and just automatically assumed that you were corny and didn't deserve to get pussy and yada, yada, yada. I don't know about the second part. No, because by the time I was moving and shaking.
Starting point is 02:25:29 Yeah, people, you know, by the time people knew who I was, I was already a different part of my life. He made me a body already about that. He laid enough up him down. Hey, audience, what are you saying? Let me be a train. They know about me how dead the streets. By then, I laid them, I knocked enough bowling pens down
Starting point is 02:25:43 and be invited to the league. It wasn't what I was saying. Not a more, huh? You're in a few bowling leagues. What I will say is people. Steve, right? Turkey. I got a speaking engagement in Miami.
Starting point is 02:25:57 I know. Yeah, we know. Right. A lot of Eskimo, brother. No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't share space like that. but what I was saying is I think that if you stand for something in public,
Starting point is 02:26:15 people who don't stand for something are always looking for excuses to say, aha, aha, or to undermine it. I'm not going to quite put Russell Wilson on the fucking freedom fighter list. No, no, no, for him, it's his faith. It's like the T-Boh shit. You know what I mean? It's like there are people, and I'm just saying if you stand up and say, I'm a good guy, I stand up for like marriage, whatever the thing is.
Starting point is 02:26:33 I'm talking about Russell Wilson, not me. I'm saying like he comes off. it's like the clean cut, I'm a good guy thing. People hate that shit. Sometimes people hate it because they think it's fake. Sometimes people hate it because that's not who they are. Some people can also be a little bit obnoxious with their promotion of certain virtues. For sure.
Starting point is 02:26:48 And that's what I'm saying. There's legitimate reasons to not like that shit. That's why I'm not. But I think it's complicated. That's why I asked y' because I'm like, there's people in the world, people just hate. You know what I mean? And they haven't necessarily done anything to earn it. Also, to I guess his point, the very last boyfriend is going to get more praised than the rest of the guy's guy.
Starting point is 02:27:06 Like, you were the last, like, we watched Sierra for years. And we watched Russell come and be the last guy and in marriage and the kids change the name. We at the game. Like, he's going to get, come on. Yeah, he deserves whatever praise comes with him. Shit, Giants fans should be mad at fucking Russell. Yeah. That's, they got to read.
Starting point is 02:27:27 That hit on fucking Jackson Dirt last night. Boy. Why should they be mad at him? They're going to kill that boy. Yeah. Yeah. He got to learn, yo. He has to learn at some point.
Starting point is 02:27:36 They're going to learn them. That hit was... They're going to learn them. That shit was an old school football shit, boy. It did that shit on purpose, bro. Yeah. Yeah, my... Football play, though.
Starting point is 02:27:45 Yeah, what Mike Gwerve said, that's real football. That's a football play. It's a football we grew up on. I mean, yo, if you choose not to slide, all right. Yeah, you're a runner-down. Yeah. He hit that nigga by five yards out of bounds. I forgot what that, uh, the fucking...
Starting point is 02:28:00 What is it? I was watching the hard knocks where somebody was playing Kansas City, and the opposing teams coach was like, yo, Pat Mahomes do all that skirting by the sideline running and trying to be cute act like you're going out Kill him Yeah
Starting point is 02:28:13 And Jackson Dart was inbound All it takes one good time Oh I'm going out Don't know And people who already hate that quarterback Gets up Preferential treatment We hit you when we can hit you
Starting point is 02:28:26 You don't really get that chance to really lay a hit on the quarterback So in that moment We've been waiting for this Dug season Wambesie Yeah Tored his ass up
Starting point is 02:28:34 They tore his ass up I think it's corny, but You think what's going? Which part is corny? That Yo, you see him... Now I got a hit. Now I got a hit.
Starting point is 02:28:49 No, I'm just... Yo, you see the quarterback running out of bounds and you purposefully... Like, I just think we're not there no more in sports when niggas be purposely trying to hurt motherfuckers.
Starting point is 02:28:58 That's like old school mentality. I don't think niggas be doing a show. You don't think it's corny that he runs out of bounds. But he was part of the game. I don't know if he was intentionally trying to hurt him. You can't breathe no more
Starting point is 02:29:07 before you're taking, Nick. You're crazy as hell. He was trying to hurt that thing. But not like injure. I don't know that he was trying to injure. Maybe try to hurt him, yeah. You stop disrespecting us. If I'm defense, niggas, you slide when you see me.
Starting point is 02:29:21 He's also, I don't even, you ain't even respecting me enough to slide. Ice rules and effect, man. He's also athletic. When you see me, slide. Yeah, you're athletic. You're not going to be out here running at all that. Violence. You see me?
Starting point is 02:29:41 You're going to fight free? What happened? I don't know. Nobody pressed you. Ain't nobody press free. Free, what's up, nigga? I know the Muslim brothers ain't going to let that shit happen any. Nicks I met at fucking VSU or whatever the fuck I was at?
Starting point is 02:29:55 Is you two ice fight? Me neither. I feel like I need to, but we groan so the windows are closed. No, there's a problem. No shit. I'm not fighting. Nobody should be right now. Nigger, I'm going on.
Starting point is 02:30:10 We're too old. If you don't feel like we should see this dick and do something. If you see one of us getting a jump, you know, you're not going to be, where would y'all be, how are you jumping?
Starting point is 02:30:21 How are you jumping in? No. No, I mean, was y'all fighting at the same time? No. Oh, so y'all, y'all say y'all ain't see ice fights if y'all's all fighting.
Starting point is 02:30:28 No, they're trying to make it a thing. No, me and it's, we're out together enough to wear ass. My bad. When shit was about to go down, it was about to go down. It was thick situation. We were never around ice,
Starting point is 02:30:39 Not that I can remember maybe one time where it was a thick, intense situation. So it's different. And you saw Ish about to get busy. Me and Isch had been in the depths of him. Did Ish look like he was about to get busy? That's a question. Yeah, Ish was well prepared for the moment.
Starting point is 02:30:53 Oh, no, this was going to get him about it there. But freeze, if we get, one of us get jumped. I'm with you off. Wait, wait, wait, you get jumped with us? Are you stopping it? You hold, you ever see Matt? Are you going to hold us back? Yo, you never see.
Starting point is 02:31:04 You never seen bad boys. You know, you're very disrespectful to me. You know, not one. Talking his apple-1. You, 9-1-1? Check here. Check here. Go 9-1-1.
Starting point is 02:31:15 You're all right. You're gonna be like 9-1-1. I'm gonna help them niggas now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of niggas do that. That nigger watch is the kit.
Starting point is 02:31:28 The kid to his night ride up. Hey, oh, freeze. A lot of niggas hold their mans. Not a lot of niggins. The people hold their people. When they get fights. No. Now you got to go to the game stop.
Starting point is 02:31:39 and slide somebody. We got to do it down. Fuck that shit. Holy shit. This is so immature, too. You should need to, I've never seen Parks to lay something down. You should need to see that from your friends.
Starting point is 02:31:51 That's stupid and toxic and dumb. But it sure is funny. I'm gonna say so funny. It's really immature, but it is funny. We said, we already said we're not mature in this year at least. Never. We almost, we're not
Starting point is 02:32:05 206 to get a mature. No, but I made a certain amount of money this year. I'm mature. How? This year? What does that look like? This year?
Starting point is 02:32:11 If I make a certain amount, I'm... What if you made the money being immature, King? 30 days. Look. Dogs, it's December. You got to keep straight and roll. What you got playing, dick? It's December.
Starting point is 02:32:22 No, I mean, 26. Oh, okay. 26. No, there's no hope for me this year. That's what I'm like, I'm as immature as you could want to be at December. Yeah, man, we ain't mature. Funny, it's how I know I'm immature. When 12-1 hit and it happened to be a Monday,
Starting point is 02:32:38 I was trying to get even more immature I was like, what? The first is a Monday who I could turn up with these things What can I do? I was in, I'm thinking of ways to be immature. You crazy? Shit, the fucking all of Hats, it's money is up?
Starting point is 02:32:54 Niggins are you shot y'all shopping out there? All right, bet. Watch this. Oh, shit hit on the first? Huh? Y'all shit hit on the first? No, I'm saying Monday. I just love Monday. The first was a Monday. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:04 Some of the shit hit on the first, yeah. Oh, I mean, yeah. Fly me to the moon. My son shit, the Patriot. Yeah, we got to figure out of the club. Patreon hit on the first. We don't talk contracts and business. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:33:24 We don't talk about contracts. We don't do that. Oh, yeah, stop me. We don't think he just get rid of the first. Hey, we don't do that. He's in Cyber Monday. My shit is Cyber. Cyber.
Starting point is 02:33:35 Hey, no previews. I think it's safe. Hey, the cracker's right. Yeah, my shit hit on money, so I know his shit. No, stop, stop, stop, stop. That's not what I was talking about. And we did, should not talk about this. And it's a different hit.
Starting point is 02:33:50 And they give you an option. And they give you an option. And it's a different hit. Your shit be like this. Yeah, my shit like this. His shit be like, pah! It's just sound like the, got you, toast. Yo, when are y'all gonna start the newest boys' Patreon?
Starting point is 02:34:03 That's my last pardon about pardon. Don't try to divert. They're not start. They're not starting. Shit, called Imani, nigga. No, hit that start enough. Don't try to distract us. With your shenanigans?
Starting point is 02:34:14 No, nigga. All right, which one, all right. Which one of you, Armani's booking Sasha next? Oh, shit. Me, I'm gonna book it. Yeah, I'll book it. You book Sasha? Yeah, I did something with her.
Starting point is 02:34:28 You booked Sasha? I did a content with Sasha, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Dope. Think Sasha's dope, entertaining. Me too. Salute to her.
Starting point is 02:34:37 Hey y'all. Shout to Sosh, man. Pahler. Shout to Tosh. I'm gonna fuck you up, niggins. I'm gonna fuck you up. Watch your boughs. I'm watching niggas what they do.
Starting point is 02:34:47 I like Tuesdays better than Friday. I do. Me too. Friday was late. I was playing on coming in to, but I'm gonna- see, Mark, putting the songs on it down was the most classic episode I've ever been a part of.
Starting point is 02:34:58 You see them? You know, you got to do that. You just see that retweet you were with the target of time? No, no. Mark said, nobody asked me, but wow. What a classic, Friday. You know what they try to do though, right for you?
Starting point is 02:35:10 I know what I said. It doesn't work though. They don't work on you. Not me. It had nothing to do with me. It worked, man. You had the whole Negro League story. Mute up.
Starting point is 02:35:18 Oh, me. All right. My daughter for real. Yo, I've been reading. And experiencing. Hold on. And I have a story. Yo, Josh.
Starting point is 02:35:26 About what I've been reading. And experience. You know, they're playing with you. You know. Negro leagues, am I right? Yeah. They're playing with you. They're playing with you.
Starting point is 02:35:34 There's been my daughter? There you go. Don't let them. Don't let them. Children? Dr. Mulamont Hill. For the children. My daughter, niggas, I swear to God that happened.
Starting point is 02:35:43 That niggins says, Satchel Paige. Josh Gibson. I knew that that was lying when he said, went to school of a parent teacher night. Oh, shit. And she in junior. Right here. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:35:56 And she in college, nigger. She in college. This is a little. Yo. That's thing is so. We believe, bro. We believe. No, flip.
Starting point is 02:36:08 You know. They're gonna play my child. Now, you're gonna play my child. Hey, Mon. They're gonna play my child. Fuck y'all. You know, talkative and how much laughter is going on right now?
Starting point is 02:36:17 Oh, man. You hear it? Wasn't like that in the first block. Oh, that is hilarious. Well, I tell you, these niggas left me to drive. Oh, my God. Boy, they laughed. His niggis ain't see it.
Starting point is 02:36:30 They left me. Look. He forgot the part that. He the only person that saw it. We didn't see it yet. No. It dropped that 3 a. I also forgot the part where I said,
Starting point is 02:36:38 hey, man, y'all are y'all talking about this? Nobody's seen it but me. They said, yeah. That show was good. We did a good talk. We got to talk. Great talk. Good talk.
Starting point is 02:36:47 Wait to Friday. It's going to be even better. Because we will have seen it. Yeah, we all going to have seen it. Friday we all seen that show. Good. I can't wait to see you guys. Hey, yo.
Starting point is 02:36:58 This thing is right here. This thing is evil, bro. You try to tell you with the tip of you. Y'all, he'd be saying shit. Yeah, yeah, because you know on Friday this shit gonna be rocking. I just make because we all seen it by then. Hey, yo, hey, yo, hey, yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:12 I wasn't say, let's say, hey, yo, we don't gotta do that. No, no, no, there's no, there's no, I really miss. You see us, right here, you see this. You're down with us, but. Yeah, who's us? You're talking about part time and part time? Us, yeah, all that.
Starting point is 02:37:25 We mesh well. You do. We mesh well. Here's the problem, though. It's like the Negro Lees. No, it's not like the niggilies. Here's the problem. Like, my name, you just got to respect the game, gang.
Starting point is 02:37:35 I do. I'll be here Friday. I'm gonna come up here Friday Just for you You can have my spot Yeah, no I ain't gonna have your spot I'm gonna sit right over there Nigger
Starting point is 02:37:41 I'm gonna go to Yeah I'm gonna show you what I'm gonna do nigga What? No, look at what you want to Look at what you want to I'm not looking at none of you And I think that
Starting point is 02:37:51 And I'm trying to be Hold on let me finish this And I'm trying to be respectful And I need you to promote that And help me to do that When you do that When you do that put a battery In my back
Starting point is 02:37:57 I don't want to prove nothing Because you just trying to participate In my demise No I want you to uplift me I want you to shine as always Okay I don't need you to do that
Starting point is 02:38:06 I'm a Leo, nigga. I'm a son, Nick. I'll teach you to do that. I'm Sean. Sean Tom, nigga. I think this is the totally wrong room to broach this, but we work together
Starting point is 02:38:18 fucking hitting the foxhole. Ariana Grande and Cynthia. Arrivo. That's it. That's it. That's the topic. That's what I have to say about
Starting point is 02:38:36 the topic. Have y'all been seeing? And because I know I'm not... I remember the last cycle, they were super chummy. Is it worse this time? It's interesting. Okay. It's interesting.
Starting point is 02:38:51 Like, every video I've seen of them working there, you know, doing their press run, just interesting. Okay. Niggie, they look crazy. Doped out. They look fucked up. Like, why? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:39:04 Listen, we plan on getting deals with the niggas. We plan on interview one of them niggas? Stop tippy toe and they look nuts I was looking for what they called their relationship Oh here we go A non- Double-checked that
Starting point is 02:39:18 Demi Double-check that I don't think that was real I saw what you're talking about We don't know if this is true I'm saying it Yeah yeah yeah Because it explains the behavior
Starting point is 02:39:28 A non-demic curious Sim-binary-binary relationship I got a headache You know if I got a call up with all I'm words to describe the relationship. Well, I don't want to sound like I'm shit on nobody, but... These two on the wicked promo run have been wicked.
Starting point is 02:39:47 They have... They've looked like just a weirdo couple. And that's framing it kindly. Cynthia has been extremely overprotective of Ariana. Okay. protective is not even the word where she would just totally disengage from whatever interview they were in not not give eye contact to an interviewer uh to hold her hand the kiss on her they answer certain questions for each other they hold hands out of like they they just all of the
Starting point is 02:40:28 stuff that you could possibly be doing that looks a little strange okay do you think hollywood did that to them. Because remember he, Leisure had to go into a part, rest of peace. And, you know, that was something that they said, like, he had to play the role or turn it to a certain person when he was playing the Joker. Do you think that they just overdid it? They had to go into a certain character. Method acting. To play these, you know, a certain role to play these characters. Maybe that's part of it. Yes, maybe part of it. If the white man don't know, niggas over. Pox, he's disgusted with them. The funny shit is on the flip side. you could say that they're acting like good, good girlfriends.
Starting point is 02:41:09 Which Ariana, I feel like, has done before with other people she's worked with and stuff. They look, you see her at the games on the TV or whatever. She's got- Girls be protective of their girlfriends. Nah, man, dude was talking to Shorty in the interview, and she, like, reached over and pulled her arm back. That ain't just good-good girlfriend stuff. Like, we're not going to dance around that part.
Starting point is 02:41:28 Some of this shit look weird, but we don't know what it is. I don't want to label nobody. And I don't want them to put the masculine part on the, dark-skinned black woman like she's the who's what they do which is what they're making it seem like well that's what's happening cool they're not making it seem like no no but
Starting point is 02:41:44 but if it was a white woman being protective of another white woman they wouldn't be getting blown out of proportion like this I don't think and Cynthia is if they were doing it in the same fashion then maybe it would Cynthia has looked like she was about to square up with men yeah I'm telling that's not a color thing
Starting point is 02:42:02 if a girl does that protecting her girl as an onlooker, I'm going to say, all right, that's a little odd. And from what I've known, Cynthia has been in a long-term relationship with Lena Waith. So I don't even know if that's... Oh, so you got more cheating than me. Yeah, that's a girl. Yeah, I think she's... Or used to be...
Starting point is 02:42:22 Oh, on some level of... Oh, so come on, man. Call a fucking spade of spade of spade. I don't play cards. You do. I forgot how. It's cooler. You didn't.
Starting point is 02:42:35 This nigga got right up on that one hour. We back to one hourish. We back to one hour. Bring that topic back up. Yeah. All right, y'all don't care, I don't care. I mean, maybe they're dating or something.
Starting point is 02:42:51 If they are, then got us. So they look crazy. It is what it is. Yeah, look nothing. That's it. Fuck it. It's what it is. Look at more quiet.
Starting point is 02:42:59 Yeah. You got to know, when it comes to women, he's such a bitch. He's such a fucking big. I support that. I support freedom. I don't. It's her.
Starting point is 02:43:05 Their body, their minds. I support that so much. Look at them. I just don't know the story that well. Oh, shut the fuck up. And what I decided to do. What I said the same thing that I would have said, right? I mean, yeah, but you're more researched than bitch.
Starting point is 02:43:21 Don't try it. You know the story. Tell us how you saw it. All I saw it all I saw from the story was it looked like she was being framed very masculine, but I also saw her behavior, which seemed like she was performing a certain kind of masculine. To me, it's like two people were dating on the low, except it ain't that much on the low. That's how I saw it. So you feel like the media is overblowing it?
Starting point is 02:43:38 It's overblown. You know what it is? I just don't care. Okay. So I'm saying I didn't read that much into it. Got it. I just assumed they, I was like,
Starting point is 02:43:47 oh, they date and they fucking, you know what I mean? It kept it moving. That's kind of how I saw it. It didn't think too much of it. TikTokers made me care. You do a lot of TikTok these days. There's always the TikTokers.
Starting point is 02:43:55 You do a lot of TikTok. Yeah, you do. When people send me clips, they be TikTok clips. Same. And by people. Me, you're girl. Me, you know. We don't.
Starting point is 02:44:02 Trust. Trust. We didn't know. Oh, okay. Okay, cool. It's like, all right, let me just download this shit. Fuck it,
Starting point is 02:44:08 because I can't see these shits anymore. Sometimes I wonder when she thinks I work. Like, I think she thinks I work Tuesdays and Fridays. You do. Got it. She's worth way more than that.
Starting point is 02:44:23 Ain't trapped and triggering me up. I'm cool. I love you, baby. What's up with your man, Jesse Smolet? Yo. I was going to ask you all. I see him on the board.
Starting point is 02:44:31 Back at it. I've seen his interview. What he did? Back at it. What he do? He went on, why people, let me not say that. He went on Caminoon show.
Starting point is 02:44:40 Oh, this sounds great. It sounds like it. It sounds great. Amazing. Where's my fucking. Yeah, Mark, you can tell him. No, no, no, that's all y'all. Now, that's your man.
Starting point is 02:44:51 Wait, what you mean? That's all y'all. He's friends with him. You know, what's up with you, man? This ain't Puff. It's Jesse. You can take him. Like, if I'm not scared.
Starting point is 02:45:00 If I think I'm puff, you could do the Jesse. You didn't take on puff. You sent Ian and hit under the table. You're talking about. I mean on this part. When he's not here, man. I mean, I don't really, I know he mentioned the video, the music video where he was like, I don't know what the angle was. I'm assuming the, you know, good faith in that.
Starting point is 02:45:20 He also mentioned the Dave Chappelle comedy routine. He's basically talking about what I saw. The million dollar question that anybody would want to ask, are you? are you still sticking with the story? There is no story. Are they still sticking with the story? I've stuck with the truth the entire time.
Starting point is 02:45:46 That's true. Now there have been things that with me telling the truth that people will... Some lies in there, but... Because it's like, I remember it being where they were like, oh,
Starting point is 02:45:58 he did a hoax and I was like, I did not! And then they're like, well, he was buying cocaine and I was like... Why he did that voice? This is cocaine boys My bad You know what I mean? Like that was true
Starting point is 02:46:10 That was true Or they're like oh He did it no The fuck I did not Or what he was buying that And I'm like Okay motherfucker I was But that has nothing to do with that
Starting point is 02:46:21 Yeah true so I just want to separate The bullshit From the truth that they tried to put on it The fact of the matter is Is that I was walking down the street And I got jumped Didn't have to get you
Starting point is 02:46:33 I'm a grown man and have no reason to do no corny bullshit like that. If I was going to set up some bullshit to look for attention, I would look like a hero, I wouldn't look like a victim. If I was going to set up some bullshit and I was really a dumb ass to do some shit like that, I'm a director, I'm an actor, I'm a writer, I'm a creator. It would have been flawless. It would have been fears.
Starting point is 02:46:52 It would have been no bullshit like whatever dumb ass did that, did it. Now, whoever really did it, congratulations to them because they actually got away with it. You know what I mean? but at the same time, do not come at me like I'm some complete idiot. I'm a very intelligent man. You know what I mean? Humble, all of those things.
Starting point is 02:47:16 But come on, I'm an intelligent man. I stand in who I am. I've gone out there and I've told who I am when I did not have to. I did not have to. I've been very honest about my life and about who I am from the very beginning of my career. when I didn't have to do that because there's a lot of people that don't they don't have to do that
Starting point is 02:47:36 So it just doesn't run with the history of me doesn't run with who I've ever been and that has to stand for something People's history should mean something I've never been a frivolous man I've never been an attention whore I've never been any of those things so you cannot then pull me into this and convince me to start seeing myself through the eyes of other people yeah again I've said what I've said is for seven years I've never changed my story. Everyone else has. I would have no reason.
Starting point is 02:48:06 I have nothing to gain from that at all. I did not want to be seen as a victim. That's facts. You all he answered the question. I was waiting for that part. He did. I missed it. He answered at the very beginning.
Starting point is 02:48:24 Remember what the question was? Because he answered directly. Why are you sticking to the story? Yeah, and he said, I don't have a story. I just have the truth. He basically said, I've, he said, my story. He said, oh, y'all stick it to y'all story. Yeah, he's basically, I told the truth the whole time.
Starting point is 02:48:35 And he said, and he reiterated. Like, I'm still telling him the truth. I'm telling my story. And he said he was gone. Fix the mic. There's your mind. The fuck you doing all day. Yo, he said he was going to buy cocaine.
Starting point is 02:48:48 And it was like, oh, that became a part of the story now. But first he said he was going to. Subway. Maybe he's buying coke at the subway. From the subway. From the subway, perhaps. He goes down in the subway, slinging. You did work a subway, didn't you?
Starting point is 02:49:03 Corporate. And you were a drug dealer. But they weren't open at that time of night. Every time you mentioned one of his jobs, he said corporate. No, I don't. I don't. You wasn't that subway corporate. He was making sandwiches?
Starting point is 02:49:16 Oh, yeah. With chaffir. And that didn't even fly. I was in corporate for subway. Shut up. Why in the fly? What you was doing? Corporate everywhere.
Starting point is 02:49:26 You know like when like there's like bankwitz and stuff in coming, he bring the sandwich. That's your oil and vinegar, my guy. 10,000 hero. What? It's a cold cut combo. Mail on both sides of the brain. Listen, Cincinnati's out of lays. They don't claim back at that time.
Starting point is 02:49:41 You know who was working in. Yeah, you got to be careful. Look at you always making it. I worked in real estate leasing and construction at Subway Corporate. Okay. But it's cool. You ain't runs a gym. Wait, what is he?
Starting point is 02:49:52 Wait, because he's done, what he said? I was in the stock room at the Whiz with you, still in TVs. You work at leasing construction and what at Subway? So you built Subways. Yes. Man. Corporate Subway, you just build it Subway. I don't think that's corporate.
Starting point is 02:50:06 No, nigga, I set the leases up with the landlord. I was a liaison between the Subway franchisee, the landlord. And it's all right, bro. That's cool, right. That's all right. I was the liaison. How are we doing this? You said.
Starting point is 02:50:21 How old were you? 20. That was my last job ever I ever had. I was 20. Wait, that's the last. 20, 27, 28. How do you feel as an employee? employer when someone tells you that.
Starting point is 02:50:37 I mean like that was my last. That was my last job. I would have left that shit too. We saved them. Nick, some ways, eat fresh. No wonder you hate the winter.
Starting point is 02:50:51 It's nice. No, that's dope. That's a good job, especially the young age. Actually, my stomach growling right now, man. He's about sending him back to corporate.
Starting point is 02:51:01 You got it. See, you got it. I don't get it. He tried to tell you go get it. He tried to go get a sandwich. Run the corporate. Put a little mobile subway. Bring the cookies, man.
Starting point is 02:51:18 The famous aim is this too. Yo. You, corporate. I would start using that shit. I can't. I can't use it. That's you good? I worked at the whiz.
Starting point is 02:51:32 Corporate. He was a liaison. Between the sales. Between the boosters, between the niggas in the subway. I actually was the liaison for the Wills. I did work in WIS corporate. You did. There you go.
Starting point is 02:51:46 But Jussie, man, how did you feel about the interview? What's your thing? I'm going to be respectful because his sisters is fine. I got a newfound respect for the Smolett family. It's not because of Jussie. So I wish he'd mute up. He keep fucking it up. Yo, we're out here trying to get some roles.
Starting point is 02:52:02 Your sister gave the redact. Your sisters gave the redact. They're fine. They're killing shit. They're beautiful. You had your run. That's what you did with it. You got the whole Chicago PD, man.
Starting point is 02:52:13 You're like, it's over. Yeah. When Cam Newton, when Cam Newton call you, you shouldn't even answer the phone. Like, what is Jesse Smolett going to Cam Newton? I want to hear your in-depth opinion on how you feel about the interview and what he said.
Starting point is 02:52:27 I think I don't understand. One Patreon. And his Patreon. I don't understand why Jesse's still doing the interviews. I just, I don't think it's advancing the story. I think people who believe him are going to believe him. I think the overwhelming majority of people who don't aren't going to feel
Starting point is 02:52:40 any different after the interview. I just don't think it helps anything. And I think the way he's responding to questions doesn't make him look stable. Some of his rambles don't look just like regular. Like I talk too much rambles because we all talk too much at times. President of Company excluded. I think
Starting point is 02:52:58 it's more like it reminded me how he looked in the courtroom. You know what I mean? He was like, I'm not suicidal. I'm not suicidal. It looked unhealthy. He did it well. That was nuts. Yeah, and this doesn't look well. And so I don't think it helps the story. I just don't think it helps anything.
Starting point is 02:53:14 I think it's drugs? Yeah. I have no idea. I don't want to speculate on. I don't want to speculate. No. No. No. No. Oh. No. That was a good answer. You was running a little bit. No, no. No. I pulled you back over here. That was a great answer. He pulled them back. Yeah. He didn't want to talk about that. He didn't want to talk about it. I just didn't know
Starting point is 02:53:34 what angle we were taking on. I think we were talking about the other stuff. I'm cool with the nigger. Yeah. Yeah. When he was, I haven't spoken to him in about a year. A pack mark. No, Mark.
Starting point is 02:53:43 I can't be cool. We got a pack Mark. You can, Mark. You can. You can be cool. To be clear, I knew Jesse before all this happened. True. You can be cool.
Starting point is 02:53:51 So now I saw him right away, right? No, but they. And you're a writer and a director. I interviewed him a couple of years back to the pandemic when all this was happening to get his side of the story. And there were a lot of us who were advocating for him, to do prison time you know okay you know for me the resolution to the Justice Small that thing should have been him at the very least paying for what they
Starting point is 02:54:17 paid all of the man hours that yeah the loss all of that you know putting them in a cage for a year or two I don't think it was gonna help anything to me it was was there ever a version of the story where you were one of the attackers and he had to send you to A's hardware to get the rope and shit to avoid incriminating myself I don't want to speak on this matter at all. Smart. Yeah. Your mom, has any of your friends hit you up, DM you after one of your takes up here?
Starting point is 02:54:45 Say that again? Has any of your friends hit you up, rode you after one of your takes up here? Yeah, all the time. Like mad, I mean. Your mom, what's up, man? You saw your soul. No, no, not sold my soul. It's more like people.
Starting point is 02:54:56 There are a few like people who I wouldn't call friends, but like celebrities who are like, yo, why did you say that? A few people who stopped doing content with me because they didn't like a take a hat on something. Up here? Oh, yeah. About them or your take about something that they were passionate about? Usually the latter. It's usually not about them because I don't really go in on people like that.
Starting point is 02:55:14 But like the Saudi Arabia thing definitely didn't win me friends among comedians. When did you meet Jesse Smolet? I met him with Harry Belafonte at his many rivers. Oh, that's been a bunch. He fucking asked the question. At the mansion in St. Martin. You know what I mean? At the mansion and St. Martin.
Starting point is 02:55:31 Yeah, because Harry Belafonte obviously was really big on connecting with artist activist and Jesse was doing activism at the time. And Angela Davis was a deep admirer of Jesse's work. And actually... Yo, Mark, he drops them. Three. Three. He got before.
Starting point is 02:55:49 I'm picking them all up at once. He asked me how I met him. That's true. So Angela and I went and were backstage and watched him perform at the Many Rivers Festival. That's where I first met him in Georgia. It was a big music festival. It was Harry Belafonte's last music festival. And then after that, we connected and stayed in communication.
Starting point is 02:56:04 I became a state in communication with his family and then when he got arrested we you know, we stayed in contact So Mark, you know, I'm not friends You're not friends in all, Mark I didn't say Jesse's my friend Y'all keep saying that's your man I didn't say that's my friend
Starting point is 02:56:17 I said, well, who's mine? Yeah, I don't call people friends that I'm just cool with this man. Okay, I don't do that. I thought I had them. I'm sick of Mark with that friendship. No, if I say they're my friend and my friend, usually I say I'm cool with them
Starting point is 02:56:27 more I know them. That's different. I wish I would have walked in Friendsgiving and Jesse Smolet would have been by that pool table. What? They were about three people who were on the gray list,
Starting point is 02:56:37 but because y'all was, there were about three people who were on my invite list that were kind of gray. They were on the, they were teeter in between the invite and non-invite. And based on y'all being there, I said no. Because I know y'all. Really? Yeah. Like who? Josie Swann. We know one.
Starting point is 02:56:49 I don't know one. Yes, you do. Your man's who's like, oh, good, it ain't just me. I'm like, damn. Yeah, it was one of them. Yeah. I'll tell you, I'll tell you off Mike. And then, yeah. Was it because of me or one of them?
Starting point is 02:57:02 Both. one was probably all the above and then there was two more yeah yeah and then two more people who you probably wouldn't have been happy to see I'd be so shocked to learn that people have issues with me really?
Starting point is 02:57:17 Why? Maybe I'm just aloof Yeah might be over there Shut your ass up, man I'm serious Whatever I'm sorry to you bro It apologized for me
Starting point is 02:57:27 Whatever happened to whoever this is I'm not even necessarily You was wrong I was probably wrong One of them you definitely was Doug ones not necessarily A lot of times it's just I don't want tension in my house. But how old was I, too, when I was wrong, too?
Starting point is 02:57:39 Six months ago. Oh, you know? Fort and a half. How old are you? Shut up, fuck, y'all. This niggins, crail. For real? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:57:53 Hmm. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, you better not that came to Mark's house that day, nigga. I don't know who is. I'd have been cutting more than clubs. How do you move to? How do you, nigga? How you pull that off, man?
Starting point is 02:58:06 Joe's coming. It's a lot easier to pull it off before you on a podcast. You could just not tell people something happened. But then if people watch the podcast and know something happened, they'd be like, oh, yeah, I didn't. I didn't get the invite. I hit them with the, oh, you didn't get the delivery? Well, I can't tell my excuses now, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:58:19 Oh, like you did with the party. No, no, I showed you, you was on the list. Oh, same thing. I remember now. I didn't deliver. All y'all was on the list. It's, you've been on list for everything I've ever had since I've known you. Niggas one inch around.
Starting point is 02:58:34 I just got one more no show before he's off the list. Yeah. Niggas want you around, bro. I ain't going to hold you. You shouldn't take a person. You need an issue after Friends giving, though. Yeah, he was supposed to be. We want you around, bro.
Starting point is 02:58:46 And you're the connector. And a lot of people who are upstairs knew you. A couple was asking for you. And your birthday coming up. Your birthday coming up. And we're doing something. And I dare you not to show up. That's the thing I want to talk to you.
Starting point is 02:58:56 Hold on. It's on the day of work. I'm on the day. I'm on the day. And I'm on that. Wait, birthdays. Your birthday's on the workday? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:59:03 Yo. I'll beat you up. Nigel. I'll snuff you if you don't come in on work. I'll bring you a cake. I'll bring you a hug, nigga. I made me kiss you in your cheek. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:59:12 Your birthday is on the work. Hey! I'm coming in that day. Oh, shit. I'm sure Molo will do something great for us. Yeah, my only got something for you. Oh, I'm sure. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:59:25 I'm sure. I don't know it's birthday. I'm just a birthday. I don't know it's a birthday. It's a birthday. It's a Friday. We're gonna bring you a cake. Come on, Ish.
Starting point is 02:59:33 We gonna celebrate, man. We love you, bro. You're gonna be 50. You did it enough, nigga. You played 007 long enough. You hid the family from us. Okay, good. You got it. But let us celebrate you, nigga.
Starting point is 02:59:44 We love him. We need a family from us. He didn't freeze. He body that shit, though. Word, at this point, you can come out your shell, we don't want to see y' house. We don't want to see if you can be private. We just want to love him.
Starting point is 02:59:55 Yeah, we just want to say. How would you feel if you walk into a surprise? You're in a shell. You bitch. How would you? I'm going to ask that again. How would you feel if you walk into a surprise party? It's not my back.
Starting point is 03:00:07 Would you be angry at us? No, hell. You ain't going to do nothing to be angry? Say less. Mike here. Oh, wait, this is a good topic. You wouldn't be angry at my surprise party. No.
Starting point is 03:00:16 Real happy. What type of surprise? Happy as we've seen you in two times, boy. On the $40 choice. Swave Mende. She should do a fucking circle. We love you, bro. Come on, man.
Starting point is 03:00:36 Like, we ain't gonna play pranks with you and throw cake on you. No, no, no. We're gonna throw him something nice. You don't think Elvis was appropriating Dominicans. Wait, what? Yo, how? You'd be thinking so wild shit joke.
Starting point is 03:00:48 Elvis might have never seen it. But yeah, that's what you mentioned it. Elvis never saw Dominican's life. Okay, but do you think he was appropriating Dominicans? What's all? Hold on, y'all. To him.
Starting point is 03:00:58 Give me a thine himself. Him, the outfits, the hair. All right, now you're saying. The look. The look, the moves, all that shit. Hold on, hold on, y'all. My daughter, princess. Hey, I.
Starting point is 03:01:12 Can you tell them what you did to your teacher, please? Okay. Yesterday, he was teaching or something, and then he used the word Negro a lot, and I didn't really like it. But after class, I see him, like, he bumped in to me, and then he was like, oh, do you want to tell me to me? And I was like, yeah, I do.
Starting point is 03:01:30 And then I told him, like, I told him, like, although I know he's educating us, and he might think I'm sensitive for this, but I told him on him like how he was staying Negro a lot, and he could use a different word. Now, like, once or twice, okay, like, you're saying the word up on the PowerPoint. That's fine. But he said it at times. And then usually, like, whenever he's teaching something about African Americans, he used the word African Americans.
Starting point is 03:01:52 Like this particular lesson, he just kept saying Negro, and I told him how I like me. Okay, thank you, Pris. I wasn't lying. You're welcome. Watch out of my daughter. That's great story. Princess, we love you. Thank you.
Starting point is 03:02:01 Thank you, guys. All right, Princess. Say sense. Very, Daddy. I love you, baby. Make sure you stay in school. No, she's in school. Come on.
Starting point is 03:02:10 I don't. She's trying to be a lawyer. I can hear her mom is killing that shit. Yeah. Salute. Body. For real. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:02:19 What you said, though? Are you crazy? I'm acting. I'm outside. I don't like. Outside? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 03:02:27 I mean, we agree. You're mad outside. Look at this people, you're about to invite over to the crib, nigga. I want to talk to you about that, because I got somebody in my mind who I'm thinking he's about you trying to slide over. I'm going to talk to you, nigga. Okay. You know what I'm talking about? I don't, but we probably on the same page.
Starting point is 03:02:42 I got another really random question for y'all that's not on the board. I got to tell you out. Fuck, no. I thought you was trying to buy it. I thought you was lit. I don't, I don't aspire to be that. Go ahead, Joe, what's your question? I would have definitely love to be there, boy.
Starting point is 03:02:56 Joe, what's your question? Me, it! Please, please stop. Please, move on. Please, Joe, get us out of here. What's the question? What is y'all?
Starting point is 03:03:03 Where do y'all stand with Ellen DeGeneres? We love her. What she? She'd be crossing some lines some time. I used to be a really big fan. Like, I thought her personality was dope. And then when all of the behind-the-sea shit start coming out, it was almost like all, you know,
Starting point is 03:03:23 they say with there's smoke, there's fire. it was so many people wasn't it just that she's mean as hell yeah like different type of mean like was treating her cast like shit treating all employees like shit was like like one of the meanest like Steve Jobs level mean like
Starting point is 03:03:41 Steve Jobs mean yeah yeah he said he was all right the movies and even a little worse right because with Ellen her her stick was her brand love yeah her entire brand was being kind of people loving people donating, giving money away,
Starting point is 03:04:00 organizing shit, shining a light. Yeah, do all that shit. No, I got to get my shit off. I just wanted to know, I mean, I was, again, one of my favorite things to watch is the dark side of comedy. I've seen every one of them. I watch them. I watch him whenever I'm just beat. Yes. Yes, it was an Ellen episode. It was a
Starting point is 03:04:15 Family Matters episode. There's a Robert Williams episode. There's a bunch of episodes. Yeah, I saw the Robert Williams. But, yeah, I was like, I wonder if everybody still believes Ellen to be the dick that she would have to be like a really like crushing people's lives they said it was bad bro what I'm saying was there any examples instead of just hearing it was bad
Starting point is 03:04:36 it was I mean on it on it on it I mean one of the examples used on dark side of comedy there was a young kid who was a singer he had some type of fucking talent and Ellen called them and she was going to fly him and they was working together for a while And I guess she had a script that she got from a movie that wasn't out, that she had to go through a lot of loopholes to get.
Starting point is 03:05:03 And she gave it to the mom so the boy could read it because she was going to get my opportunity. Right. And it's the boy, but he's a little older now, so it's him telling the story. Okay. And he said, whatever was going on that weekend, he hadn't gotten around to read the script.
Starting point is 03:05:19 That's mistake number one. Fuck with Ellen. And he said, Ellen called his mom. and they were over there having a long, long, long conversation that the mom later told him some of the things that Ellen was saying, which was on some shit like you failed as a mom. Like, how could you not have him read this? I've jumped through all of these hoops and what the fuck are you doing and yada y'all?
Starting point is 03:05:42 Just on that type of vibe. Like a dick. That's not enough for me. That's not enough. That's not enough. That's not enough. I hate hearing those stories. I'm talking to my mom like that
Starting point is 03:05:55 is crazy, but I don't... Yeah, y'all just pardon now. Somebody just called your mom and started whiling on your mom. No, if it happened to me, that's different, but hearing it happens somebody else, you know what it is? I assume that anybody who's that nice on camera
Starting point is 03:06:08 is probably a bit of an asshole behind camera. Same. I naturally is something. What about Oprah? So I guess that's why, so it doesn't disappoint me or shock me because I'm already walking into it, expecting that.
Starting point is 03:06:16 I got to hear, Oprah, I don't know enough to say. You know what I haven't heard those awful stories and I've read all of her biographies. That's what I'm saying. Like, I mean, I heard there's a lot of dirt, but none of it is like, she's a monster. Got it. You know what I mean? That don't make you a monster.
Starting point is 03:06:29 That's all I'm saying. Like, hey, all right, a dick. Yeah. But a monster, bro, I need a little bit more. You go through all the loopholes you can and get somebody the opportunity. And they fuck it up. And they fuck it up. Joe, you'll be upset too.
Starting point is 03:06:42 I'm not calling nobody mom and calling them a failure as a mom because their kid didn't read the script. Yeah, that's terrible. I got you. I got it. If I asked for an example, that's one of the examples. There's much more you'd have to see it yourself. You got here on both sides. Seale Parkes is a dick.
Starting point is 03:06:58 Sorry. Because what if the person just interpreted it, her being called a terrible mom, and she wasn't calling her terrible mom. She was just implying that she could have done better at making sure that this was important. What are you guys doing? But the issue point, there's been so many stories about it.
Starting point is 03:07:12 Yeah, you're with that if it's a standalone, but this is fudged in between. If I hear the rest of them, then I might be on more. And also, is it because everyone assumes that she's so nice that if she's a little bit mean, it comes off as, oh, my, I thought she was an angel. But she's not, she's, and she's not really that mean. If any other normally keeled human beings said the things that she said, they would take it at face value. But if it's coming from someone that you perceive as this angel, now it looks like you're a monster.
Starting point is 03:07:36 But you're not really a monster. It was stories. I don't recall. I would have to hear more. Yeah, I don't recall. You know what I mean? There were a lot of them. It was a lot of them.
Starting point is 03:07:43 I'm sure. From people that worked with her for over 10 years. There was a lot of stories. But anyway, I just wanted to ask. I thought about it. Sorry. That's all good. No problem.
Starting point is 03:07:52 Shout out the other. Or not. Or not. Or not. No, freeze. Yo, I'm with you a little bit. I was looking at the special people Olympics. Not Olympics.
Starting point is 03:08:07 I mean, the walkway, the runway. The fashion show. Ooh, freeze. Is it still a runway? Yo. Yo. You, freeze. You freeze.
Starting point is 03:08:18 The roadway, whatever it is. I bookmarked it. I said, okay freeze. It's not okay freeze. Ooh, I see your style. I can see what you like. That's not my style, man. I saw the nubs, no legs, fire with a fatty too.
Starting point is 03:08:30 Chubed up, right? Huh? She had the fatty with no legs. I said, hey, I wonder how this is it look. Your hands, no restraints on the side. I thought about it. I don't give a fuck. I was going through it, too.
Starting point is 03:08:44 I thought about it. I think it's great to come in and report what chubbed you up over the weekend. Hey, you're, Paul. It was nice. Some of them be fire. I bet. There's a disabled person's fashion show.
Starting point is 03:08:58 Yes. I saw clips online. Yeah, I saw the clip. Everybody keeps sending it to me. Yo, yo, this is your back. It's not. It is. It is, though.
Starting point is 03:09:07 See the colors are you, that's why you got the clothes. They attract those type of colors, too. You know what? Please! What the fuck? That the nigg is James, Pius, Bronson. You, oh, man. Chill, Joe, stop, no laugh.
Starting point is 03:09:24 Freeze, you that nigga, son. I'm chilling. I said, I wonder what freak. Because at first I was cutting your ass, but then I went, and I said, hmm, and you got to go through some shit. See, I went through some shit, so my mom was just, just wanting to go to another round,
Starting point is 03:09:35 but I salute you. Show me some more, nigga, send me some more, gang. Send me all the pages. Don't salute me, bro. Salute to the disabled community. Indeed. I'm glad you all can see their humanity. You're all right.
Starting point is 03:09:45 Frank Sinatra, right? Not me. Watch the fucking. You know, the dude, Paul Acre. What's the date of? Bill. Burl. Look at you, Milton Burrow.
Starting point is 03:09:57 Milton Burley. Let's see here. Oh, no, we're going to touch a, duh, duh. What is that? What was that? Yo, it's not a same. You, I'm asking. You ain't going to be that.
Starting point is 03:10:20 You, duh, duh. What allegation? What allegation? What allegation? What are you saying? No, what allegations, nigga? Get out of them fucking booth. What allegations, nigga?
Starting point is 03:10:27 Come on. Come through it is a segue. Nick. I'm, I'm, I'm, I know. Your segue, be like, fuck out of here, Mike Meyer. Listen, no, the Max B performance.
Starting point is 03:10:37 Oh, that's what I was saying. That's why I didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on. Come on. Who's ready to tell the truth in here? Come on. Come on, come on, freeze.
Starting point is 03:10:45 So last Friday. Tossing it to freeze. There we go. Black Friday. Max B performed at Excell and Elizabeth. Were you there? No. Yes.
Starting point is 03:10:55 I was not there. In spirit. Yes, he was. I wasn't going there. You had someone there streaming it for you? No. Tell us about it freeze. It was, you know.
Starting point is 03:11:04 But anyway, so as the video started to go out from the performance, one of the songs he performed was his A-Rap Money remix, which is called Grand Crew, Grand Crew Money or something like that. Yeah. But it contains lines in there where he's distant Jim, distant Chrissy. Yeah. You sent them to no DJ version? No, they didn't answer. I actually, I said something about that to them. Like, yo, y'all.
Starting point is 03:11:29 But anyway. But yeah, so then video comes out and it looks like a direct contrast to everything he's been saying about moving forward, moving positive, and why would you do this song? Like, a lot of questions came out. Yeah. And then his report, his retort was that Funkflex was DJ and that's all he had, right? Yeah. He said basically Flex backdoored him. That's what he said.
Starting point is 03:11:54 He said, Flex told him he was going to only play Pinned the Tail. I have one record, which is Pinned Tendor and Donkey. Yeah. He said that Flex played that. He said he was just in the moment. He didn't want to not perform the record, but he said he had no intention as a disrespect to Jim. He said, we all got families. We all got wives.
Starting point is 03:12:10 And he apologized for doing it. And my question to freeze was, do you believe that story that Flex might have did that? And is Flex to blame in doing that? I took it at face value. So if that is what happened and Flex played the record, and I've said this to them, to his camp.
Starting point is 03:12:27 I say, I think Max handled that wrong in that moment. I see, as I watched the video, I see he never said certain words, but the backtrack is playing. So it's the same thing.
Starting point is 03:12:36 Like, he went like this one time, but you still played it. Like, you could have freestyle, a cappella, or just not done a record. So, yeah, Flex, yeah, it's only doing,
Starting point is 03:12:44 I mean, this is a club appearance. So you're only doing two songs. Right. Or three songs. You know, you're, it's real short. So, and I was just like,
Starting point is 03:12:53 and how do y'all not have, if you needed me to send your sexy love for the barclays, how do y'all not have a thumb drive with three to five records? Right. To go at any time. You should have that anyway.
Starting point is 03:13:06 So, what do you think, Joe? Yeah. I think it was a good attempt at a cleanup, right? I mean, yeah, it's good to apologize and shit. Yeah, of course. I believe everything Max said.
Starting point is 03:13:21 I don't think that he should be running around. I don't, I don't, I don't think that he's just running around with thumb drives. And yeah, if you just came home, I'm talking about, you said he should. His people. I'm saying, his people's. Your manager gets, I don't even know if he has picked people. He has people. I'm telling you something.
Starting point is 03:13:40 Yeah, Karen Sibble with him. He has a group of people. I don't know that his group of people is the same at every event Max B does. they you're saying for the most part are for the most part for the most part they were not they were at some of the people from that team were in elizabeth at excel okay i used to say and they reached out to him for i see too many worlds where max is saying could happen no it could happen for sure but even in that moment you got to if i i don't think max went in on some trying to be funny shit
Starting point is 03:14:16 personally you got other records that will do it way more than that that the crowd would know that ain't even the one of your top records like I was even when I heard it I'm like why the hell is he doing this song so that stood out for me so maybe that's all flex had but you got as as the DJ you still got to know what's going on too like you're in charge of that you have to know that so if you're playing this song you know you know what you're doing yeah yeah the DJ you're saying yes the DJ so you feel like flex that's what that's yes that was indeed flex DJing? Yes. Or was it just a Flex thrown event? No, no, they have other DJs, but when they do them type of parties and they have like a headliner, so to speak, flex comes out
Starting point is 03:15:01 to DJ for them. But do we know that that was Flex that night? Yes. He said it was flex. Yes. And I can totally see Flex to shoot him to bail. Like, he could have just went into his max B in Strato and that's what he had. So he was like, fuck it. Okay, I remember this and didn't remember all the connotations that were in the verses. That's entirely possible, bro. As a DJ, your mind isn't necessarily thinking of all the disc lines in a record.
Starting point is 03:15:26 You're just trying to... No, I'm not rolling with that. I'm not rolling with that. That's irresponsible. It's too much as stick. Exactly. It's too much as to stay. It's somebody's job to know that.
Starting point is 03:15:38 Max is on some shit like, yo, the gig is the gig. I just came home. That's the song that the DJ put on. I mean, I didn't rap it, but I'm not going to cancel the gig. I'm going to give my people to show that they look for.
Starting point is 03:15:48 He said that. I take him at his... word. I believe what he tweeted out after that Jaru fight at the Barclays. I do not believe that Max B is on any bullshit. But even bigger than that, I was just proud of Harlem's response. Like the people that I heard talking about it,
Starting point is 03:16:03 when I first saw it, I had the it was a big side. Big side. But before Max addressed any of it, I heard people from Harlem talking about just how much both sides mean to Harlem. what could happen if this goes a different way
Starting point is 03:16:22 and how everybody needs to be preventative in making sure the people on both sides, they love both people to make sure that none of that is happening in 2025. That was 17 years ago. We're not on it like that. We don't want to see it. We don't want bloodshed.
Starting point is 03:16:38 We don't want none of that shit. I love that response from New York. I absolutely loved it. I was more happy for New York responding that way than I was for thinking about flex and yada, yada, yada. I can understand flex position. I understand what Max B is saying. But New York and the resounding response that I heard.
Starting point is 03:16:55 Niggas made sure to put that to bed early. Yeah, yeah. And that's dope. And that's how it should be. Even on the Max cleanup. Even on the Max cleanup, it was somebody saying, yo, nah. Yeah, we ain't on that.
Starting point is 03:17:08 That ain't what we're doing. We're not doing that. Please tell me you not doing that because, you know. So I appreciate it. And that speaks to what we were talking about earlier. having real, real people around them that can speak out and say something. You know what I'm saying? In a moment like that, yeah, your phone should,
Starting point is 03:17:24 there should be somebody that got your phone number that should be able to call you. It's cursing you to fuck out. Yeah, and be like, yo, dog, what the fuck are you doing? Even if, to hear your explanation, then it'd be okay that, but just the way that shit looked crazy at first. And we needed the explanation same day. Yeah, right away. Don't let it.
Starting point is 03:17:40 I'm glad that happened like that. Yep. They didn't waste no time. Yep. Thank God. Thank God. That's all I said. And do I think Flex was trying to, like, incite some shit?
Starting point is 03:17:51 No, like I said, it was just bad preparation. But as the DJ, if this is what you're doing, you got to do better than that in that moment. True. Because that could have went all the way left completely unnecessarily. And Max got enough songs that he could, he should have. That's the point. He got way better. Nigger, if that's the only option, then don't play no song.
Starting point is 03:18:09 Don't play it. Cut the music off. If all you got is some shit that's going to start a fucking war, then cut the music off. Have Max Be come to the stage. some words, a cappella, thanking his fans
Starting point is 03:18:20 and the people and that'd be the end of that. Max got records that they know. He could have started singing and let the crowd would have participated on songs. Like if it's a Max B crowd,
Starting point is 03:18:28 he has, I know, I've been seeing ever since Max came home, a lot of people saying this whole, oh, who is Max B? We didn't listen to him
Starting point is 03:18:35 out here. That's fine. New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, knows Max B's music
Starting point is 03:18:45 through and through. And, when he's performing anywhere in that strip right there, when they show up, they know the songs. So you ain't even have to play that song. Or as soon as you realize something, you could have cut it.
Starting point is 03:19:00 That's so narrow money. You should be a fan of, I enjoy watching somebody. I don't enjoy watching somebody sit up for 17 years. But I enjoy watching people pick up where they left off. Hell yeah. Like I think people should be allowed that opportunity. I do.
Starting point is 03:19:15 I'm a fan. I saw next to Providence this weekend. And I was like, see, that look, that's what I'm used to seeing. Like, I like that. And it was lit. It was late. And they knew the words. Him and French used to run that whole, man.
Starting point is 03:19:26 That was their strip. Yeah. And him and French got music coming out. Yeah. New Cokeway. January 26 or January 6? January. I forget the day.
Starting point is 03:19:37 I know the show is the 16th and 17. Yeah. So it might be the week before. I have to double check. Shout out to that. His album was supposed to be dropping PD7. they were saying it was Friday, which I'm kind of glad
Starting point is 03:19:50 that didn't drop just yet. Like, let it, let it build up. For sure. Let it build up. Oh, speaking of music, did you hear, uh, stove gods? I still have it because we're going to do a live reaction
Starting point is 03:20:02 on the air on Friday. Before y'all broached that, let me just throw in because we was talking about the show at the Barclays. I want to say that Money Long has removed herself from the boy is mine tour with Brandi and Monica citing
Starting point is 03:20:13 health concerns. Her doctor said, you cannot continue if you do it. be bad for your health. Oh, yeah. You all right. You got to listen to your doctor. Yeah, you got to listen to your doctor.
Starting point is 03:20:21 So money long, we love you. We're praying for you. Absolutely. They've since added Maya to the spot dates. I think that makes a lot of sense. So shout out to y'all. If you have a chance to check out the boys' mind to it when it comes to a city near you, I suggest you do so.
Starting point is 03:20:36 Well, have y'all being horny again? Yeah. You got it. It's that simple. Well, he wanted me to look. No, I wasn't on that. Oh, what was you on? You wasn't on my?
Starting point is 03:20:47 I think a nigger. Nica too good for Maya. You're that nigga, boy. I'm with you, though. I'm with you. Never fails, boy. Back when Maya, in the run of Maya, I wasn't looking at Maya like that as an adult.
Starting point is 03:21:04 Honestly, I look at my as an adult. That's about to say. And Maya still look like Maya. Maya back in. And then was that. And Maya said she ain't fucking like 12 years or something. She's like, married in. She's just sitting there.
Starting point is 03:21:18 I just believe. No, my. Yes, we believe women, nice. I believe women, too. Especially when it comes to their pussy mouth. Of course, of course. I believe women. Anyway.
Starting point is 03:21:27 Anyway, yeah, I saved my reaction because I want to do it. Live on there. As a Stove God fan, I've had Stove God on my record before, a Christmas record, too, still. I would like to hear what this sounds like. Live reactions. I've seen it's got some people in a tussie. Let's go.
Starting point is 03:21:51 I'm here already. What's the problem? This is fucking hard. I love this record. I like that. You know the problem. Come on. I completely know what the problem is.
Starting point is 03:22:17 Let it play. Did you sound? Yeah. Too clean. Make sure it's a goal. Make sure it's good. This shit is key. This is fire.
Starting point is 03:22:53 You know, whoever does it like this, your ears are. What's the issue? You know what? You know what? You're, come on now. We're not going to play like that. This is like some old school mentality shit where everything got to sound like a a preem beat.
Starting point is 03:23:02 No, dog. Yeah, but this is fire. People get used to you in a certain... They got stove in a box. But Stove was doing other shit. I understand. Even on the gun records, there were some trap-y-ish, not trappes to the wrong word, but not super slow boom-bap shit.
Starting point is 03:23:19 Like, he's always been on different shit as well as doing the boom-bap shit. This record is he... I think that you know more about Stovegaw cooks than most people. That's probably true. I think that since his Clips album appearance, some people that may not have been so familiar with him. There got to be some of those here. That's a lot. Yeah, for sure. A lot. If a hook could take over an album, he got damn did it.
Starting point is 03:23:40 I think there's new people here. I think they're just saying, like I said, it's in a box and it sounds different. I think that not only is this hard, but this is the natural next steps for him, I feel like. He's also put out records where I've played one on his sleep right here. I made a joke, like, I'm going to play some R&B too
Starting point is 03:23:56 and it was stove god over some fucking... I remember that. That was hard. Yeah, it was a hard record. Like, this is not even weird or rare for his solo shit or nothing. so shut the fuck up. Hey, listen, I'm all for doing some other shit when it's dope. That shit, I heard that record and was like, yeah. I woke up that day and thought the internet had them dead to rights before I heard this
Starting point is 03:24:17 on the way they was going. Yeah. I said, I was still waiting. They were hanging them out to dry. I was like, whoa, let me go check it out. And I started fucking nodding my head. That shit came on. Ghost dog God.
Starting point is 03:24:28 Some of y'all ears be bad. I don't know to tell you. Oh, they just wanted, like you say, want to keep you sounding just like this. No attempt at growth, nothing, so that we could then complain and say you make the same song over and over. Right. Sorry, dog. I'm playing this just because it was hard. You won't know what I know.
Starting point is 03:24:45 You ain't seen what I saw, no. You ain't still got, bates. Hey. Hey. Hey. Oh, come on. That reminds me Come on, man.
Starting point is 03:25:10 Remember that record? Good drink. It was two chains, I think Gucci and Cuevo. But then he went and got the choir to do the hook. And it reminded, that's when they started using the trap choir first. Gotcha. And it reminds me of that.
Starting point is 03:25:25 The other day there was a clip of Stokely singing, If You're Breaking My Heart. And the band was playing it behind him. I think he was too close to the home. so you couldn't hear him, but great idea. Great idea. He owns as loud as fuck, though. Also in music, I want to read this.
Starting point is 03:25:44 I saw Parks posted, and I saved it to read it just because I thought it was fly. This is great. A record producer in L.A. said, most musicians don't fail because they're bad. They fail because their nervous system can't survive the industry. And every artist in the room went still.
Starting point is 03:26:04 He said, the biggest myth in music is that success depends on exposure. No, he said. It depends on whether your body can handle being unseen longer than you expected. Most artists quit not because they're untalented, but because their brain interprets silence as danger. The industry doesn't break voices. It breaks nervous systems.
Starting point is 03:26:29 They scout emotional, he said, labels don't scout talent. they scout emotional durability. This is when I saved this. This is the one where you spend. The ability to create when numbers drop. To write when no one cares. Facts.
Starting point is 03:26:44 To perform after rejection number 47. Or 400 and 47. Yeah, $4 million. To stay human when algorithms treat you like a product. Air horns. He said 90% of rising artists crumble, not from hate, but from the invisible weight of being ignored. Yeah, he left Earth right there.
Starting point is 03:27:02 Then he told the story of a singer who went viral overnight and disappeared six months later. Not because she lacked songs, because the dopamine crash after fame felt like grief. He is killing this. Her body couldn't handle the altitude, he said. And no one teaches artists how to breathe up there. The crowd went silent like they suddenly recognized themselves. He revealed the real industry filter, consistency under emotional pressure, not talent, not looks, not luck.
Starting point is 03:27:36 Just the ability to keep creating without collapsing into comparison, self-doubt, or the terror of being, quote, unquote, too late. Most artists don't lose their dream, he said. They lose their self-trust. He ended with a line that felt like a punch. Your biggest enemy isn't the industry. It's the version of you that believes you're running out of time. He is.
Starting point is 03:27:59 He can't smoke. Yeah. because that belief kills more careers than bad marketing or missed opportunities. And every musician in the room suddenly exhaled, exhaled, like someone finally named the monster under the stage. He spoke that shit. Whoever this is. It could have been AI.
Starting point is 03:28:16 I don't care. The words were great. The words were absolutely great. Even if that's AI, AI got that from a real place. Yeah, they spoke that. Somebody that really went through something. He, that was it. That was it.
Starting point is 03:28:30 So I wanted to throw that in there on the tail end of our stove god conversation. Brother Mark. Oh, yeah. I just wanted to send an RIP to one of our, at least for underground rap fans. Yeah. One of the greats. Mars Co-op. Mars Co-op.
Starting point is 03:28:47 From the Roots Crew Collective, most famous for the opening verse and clones. Yes, he body clones. Which he went crazy on, but did a number of other features. He's all up and down half-life body in it. Yeah. Yeah. We don't know the cause of death, but rest in peace. At least I'm not aware of what it is.
Starting point is 03:29:05 Yeah, nothing's been announced yet, but shout out to him and salute, tend of love to all over the rules. I was just Googling trying to find it, but yeah, you're all right. Yeah, they haven't, to my knowledge, revealed anything. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Rest in peace. A life lost. Man, it's getting rough.
Starting point is 03:29:18 It's a Roots fan. Yeah. Over the years, you know, from Hub to even the manager of Rich Nichols to obviously, you know, Malik B. I mean, you know, it's some, some losses, man. So sending him love and comfort. For sure. For sure. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 03:29:35 There's now a good time to tell y'all what B. Simone said? It's always good time. Always. We always want to hear what she says. This is just funny. I don't even know if it's true. It's so funny I'm saying it. And it's true.
Starting point is 03:29:45 Let me not say that. B. Simone was on live and someone asked, which would she choose? A trillion dollars or 10 minutes with Jesus. She said the money because Jesus probably wouldn't tell her nothing different than what's already in the word of God. And she would waste her 10 minutes. stuttering. And the internet is on her ass about it. Why? Why are they going to ask?
Starting point is 03:30:08 I mean, I can see both sides of it. Why? Well, I'd like to think Jesus, if you believe in Jesus, you'd like to think you got something else to say. Like, there's no remix, there's no new... Like, Jesus is not giving you the fucking murder. Mark, I'm just saying, if I believe in Jesus and I'm like an active Christian and all of that, I'm going to see him later on anyway. Let me get this weird right now.
Starting point is 03:30:31 We got an appointment already. I'll holl at you when I get up that big dog. Let me get this bread right now, though. Counterpoint. He's not like Jesus is a genie. He ain't going to make your wish come true. How you get the trillion in? I knew what you should have to ask this for a minute.
Starting point is 03:30:51 You spent 10 minutes with Jesus? Yes. You got a lot of money. You got a lot of money already. You're your way to a true. If I was making $20 million, yeah, I'm like, yeah, I see that, nigga. Hey, yo, jeez, well, good looking, my man. You looked out for me.
Starting point is 03:31:05 Hey. Ice and Corey, I believe. What would you pick? You know what I'm picking. I don't. Picking the bread. Mark. I'm trying to think of a creative way to say I'll take the bread,
Starting point is 03:31:22 but I'll take the bread. Cash me out, big dog. Say it loud. I'm blacking up. Hey! I'm going to be tap dancing out of heaven. This is like lunch with Jay-Z. I shouldn't even ask you, right?
Starting point is 03:31:39 Why? I'm asking. I mean, what you think? Why are you saying you shouldn't ask? Bro, what's your answer? I'm saying, like, is it obvious that you would pick the money? I wouldn't take the money. Oh, got you.
Starting point is 03:31:51 That's what your friends? No, I wasn't rude against them. These dicks just scaring me. Okay. Awesome. What's your reason? What should reason? What's your thinking?
Starting point is 03:31:58 You need a reason to say for that? We gave our reason to take the trillion. Because y'all, if you really got faith in God and you really believe that God got you, then you can make the money. If you really believe God got you, why you didn't see him face to face? So that I could talk to him. About what? What y'all going to talk about?
Starting point is 03:32:13 That you can't talk to him when he's not there. Whatever the case may be. But you can talk to God every night in prayer. You said you pray every day? I do. How do you pray, it? But you feel like... You said...
Starting point is 03:32:24 Nigger, I heard you. You've been asking for money. I sent you a trillion dollars. I sued you the option to get the money. I sent you a trillion dollars and your dumb ass came here to see me. And you still came to see me. That was my gift. Mark, you will pick a trillion dollars over being able to have a 10-minute conversation with Allah?
Starting point is 03:32:43 Yes. You can say it's slow. You can say it dramatic. You can change the name. You can put all of them together. I'm still going to be that. The delegation about Mark, too, he ain't going to beat them. That's fine.
Starting point is 03:32:57 It could be a whole conference loan. I'm taking the money. I have a relationship with God already. Jesus, Allah. It's a long distance one that we good with this. Moses. $1. The no-brain of Thanksgiving thing.
Starting point is 03:33:08 Maybe it's not a big deal. These niggas are... Man, brought my money, man. You know what I could do? Come on, though. What you're going to do? I'm just saying, I could change my entire family's... Like, everything.
Starting point is 03:33:21 You mean, like God could. Yeah, well, he gave me the trail. He gave me the trillion. God didn't work quite right. You know what he's top. God's plan. Anybody that picks the money can't really believe in a higher power of a third way.
Starting point is 03:33:35 I disagree. I think anybody that picks the conversation doesn't believe in the higher power a certain way. Why is it? Because I think if you have a relationship with the higher power, you've already talked. Faith. I've spoken to him. All the time. You think that that would be ignorant of me to think that he's not listening.
Starting point is 03:33:49 And I need some reassert. And if you really wanted me to hear on me? But this question is not saying you can talk to God and he's listening. Uh-huh. This question is saying you get to have a 10-minute back-and-forth conversation with God. That's what it says. Okay. I don't got that many questions.
Starting point is 03:34:06 Yeah, like that's you. My main question is, how can I get a trillion dollars? But you could ask that and have nine more minutes and 45 more seconds to get more shit. I think I could. A lot more with the money than I could. Keep at it. Keep at it. We're hard.
Starting point is 03:34:22 Make sense to my own for a trillion dollars taking, dickhead. I don't think that anything that God tells me the rest of civilization would bleed. Anyways. Listen, to each is on for everybody. Mark, I'm more. Pardon me. Mark, I'm more taking it back. Because he's negative, say, don't nobody even need a billion dollars.
Starting point is 03:34:38 Oh, I'd give it away. I'd give it away and change the world. I wouldn't keep it all. Like, Scrooge McDuck. I would take one dip in the pool, though. Jumping into a pool of hard coins feels really like a bad idea. I've been watching this as I. I've never sold on it.
Starting point is 03:34:52 Yes. Not to be that guy. Do y'all ever think that God can hear some of this shit, you're saying? I was like, hey, y'all throw it all away for a hypothetical off the gram. Yes, but I was made in God. image. So God put me here to do it. I'm speaking for me. Yes, I was.
Starting point is 03:35:09 No, you wasn't. Exactly. You wasn't, yo. Exactly. Blame God for my sense of humor. All right boy. God I'll talk me later about it. So you talked to him already. You talked to him already, man. For free.
Starting point is 03:35:24 You talked to him already. And he talked back. But you have to believe that. If he talked back, then why you need his face to face? To not pick the money. Yeah, shit. If you're already talking back, I don't know. You have to talk to somebody on the phone? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:35:35 You want to see him sometimes, right? Sometimes. But they say I get a trillion dollars just keep going on the same on his phone. I can't believe that this whole room Sands Ish. I'd have been wrong. If somebody would have bet me a million dollars.
Starting point is 03:35:47 Or a trillion. Well, I wouldn't have took the best. But I would have never guessed that Ish would be down with me and the rest of the room. Paul, what about you? You're this poor? Like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 03:36:00 Yes. Yes. The y'all's view of God is, Amani. That nigger, come on, you y'all can see the face of money just made. I wish y'all could see the base he somebody made. Like, he's disrespected that Joe even asking him. I thought he would have said. I thought he my brother.
Starting point is 03:36:19 No. He's good. He's good. Holy shit. He's good. Erickson, what's your choice? It's over, Joe. You were interested.
Starting point is 03:36:35 by ourselves, like back of the days. Yeah. This is why I'm running to man. Hopefully not. Oh, yeah, not. It's not even just y'all pick. It's like, y'all proud of it.
Starting point is 03:36:47 Yeah. They're happy. They're not like. Yeah. It's not real. Go ahead and say it. Go ahead and say it. Wait. Wait. What else ain't real? I could touch his money, though.
Starting point is 03:37:02 Flip, do you believe in, do you believe in eye power? I do. Mark? Sure. Okay, we can move on. We got it. We got it. Sure. We got it.
Starting point is 03:37:13 That's crazy. We got it. We got it. No, we got it. No, we got it. No, we did it. We did it. We did it.
Starting point is 03:37:19 Ma, you don't believe mine? Shit. He don't, yo. You converted Mark? That's what I'm saying? All this fucking... Converter to me what? You believe in love?
Starting point is 03:37:29 Yeah, sure. But like, no, no, Ma, it's not a conversation I have on podcast. What I say is how I understand. Well, then yes, sure, shouldn't be a thing that you say on podcast with that little smug-ass voice. Oh, that was a joke. I was lobbing it up for Corey. Corey's not on. You know what?
Starting point is 03:37:44 You might have a religion talks on podcasts? You feel like that. It's just, I don't think religion does well on podcasts because you don't have a chance to actually expound. But what I would say is how I understand and conceptualized God is more complicated than other people. So the idea even of having a one-on-one conversation like it's a king on a throne for me is something I don't believe. So it's hard for me to choose that over something that's material. You believe all man is God? I don't conceptualize God that way.
Starting point is 03:38:09 That's more what it is. But that's a complicated conversation. Okay. Over here. But also, sorry, brother. Also, I want that. Okay. One trillion dollars.
Starting point is 03:38:22 You know what's so crazy? He talked about anything else, but when it comes to religion, that nigga. That's not true. There's a lot of personal stuff I don't talk about. It ain't even got to. This is a personal matter for me. It ain't got to be a trillion. You got to be a trillion
Starting point is 03:38:35 Stupid me through that commercial I told you we were running A lot of Sunday morning air time I'll change it next time Or take this out I gotta easier fix Oh my God A million?
Starting point is 03:38:47 I'm taking the cash ish Yes Really? Yes A million cash right now Yes Wow Over a 10 minute conversation
Starting point is 03:38:54 A hundred thousand Nigger Yo tell these niggas Yo tell these niggas Yo it's flat right A million hold dollars No dick Joe was really disgusted.
Starting point is 03:39:05 Go on what, bro. I am. I'm a million dollars. Recently y'all said a bunch to me. Bro what, we are your friends, bro. To make me disgusted, though. It's fine. And I'm sure you all are discussing it.
Starting point is 03:39:15 Yes, you can. Yes, you can. Yes, you can be disgusted at some of your friends. Yes, you can. We discussed each other all the time. All the time. That's just the gig at this point. Not by your personal belief, nigga.
Starting point is 03:39:26 It don't change. It don't change anything about our relationship. It don't change. I can just be like that. This nigga really think that. That's crazy. I'm getting serious. But you know why picking the money is stupid?
Starting point is 03:39:35 All right. So you pick the money and then God dead your whole family. Or not. Or not, though. You're saying it like that's the other alternative. Okay, all right. Or that don't happen. Or you had a conversation with God and you have a 10-minute conversation with God
Starting point is 03:39:49 and he showed you how to be abundant in all these other areas outside of finance. Then what? Yeah. You're a motherfucker. It spat on me, nigger. And he's a white couches. And what are you drinking? Coffee, some shit is stained.
Starting point is 03:40:02 Jesus was Bruce. Holy water. Something that the tide pin ain't getting out. Yeah, type of. Holy water. Wow. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:40:12 All right. You know what? Yo, you said God is the greatest trick. I say religion is a great of the truth. It's been a good three and a half hours. I ain't going to do it. I ain't doing it. I ain't doing it.
Starting point is 03:40:22 But yes. Is that a three? Yes. Three and almost four. Oh, then what that's serious? I had this podcast will be that before. Hey, up. I had a bus about 3.30 right now.
Starting point is 03:40:30 We was cooking. Yeah, Paul. We cooked with this non-God shit. Your box. You know what? Your man hurt. He hurt by that. Look, he don't like that shit.
Starting point is 03:40:38 He was mad about the Thanksgiving. Oh, you weren't. I was a Friday. No. No, I was a classic scene, man. Time was good. I was filming in Chinatown getting a lot of money. Yeah, that's what's what.
Starting point is 03:40:49 They're not praying on thing over the Thanksgiving food. I could understand it, but it was a little judgment. The, what decisions certain people made in the voting booth? Hey, your world, but that comes with a little judgment. I think this one is kind of worse. Is the conversation with Jesus or God? This one is Trump's own. He said Jesus.
Starting point is 03:41:07 You said Jesus first. I did not say Jesus. You did. Yes, you did. You said Jesus first. Well, let me read it. Which is also an important distinction. We don't have to clean it up.
Starting point is 03:41:15 No. No, because that matters. To cater to his feelings? If they came to God, the y'all opinions will still be the same. Oh, no, I'm still going to take the money. I just want them. But it is important. It is very important.
Starting point is 03:41:25 Oh, yeah. It is a good. But still. Yeah. But still. Yeah. They're going to still. Oh, Corey.
Starting point is 03:41:35 That's the solid point. I don't listen to nothing that I don't hear him. Yo, Mark, who does. Nothing that he says. I'm not playing with Corey. You already are. No, I'm not playing. No, because he goes too far.
Starting point is 03:41:45 Y'all understand? He goes too far. He goes too far. He goes to far. You know, stop. See? Yo, Joe. I fully understand how Corey doesn't have a mic.
Starting point is 03:41:55 Yeah, yeah. I didn't understand what the first guy here. He said a mic. No, no, no. No. Now I get it. You can't judge us like that. What a show, though.
Starting point is 03:42:01 What a show we did today, man. Play, take me to the king. Take me to the king. He played that shit. Don't play no gospel, bro. Yeah, no disrespect, man. Come on, man. Joe is crazy.
Starting point is 03:42:17 He bothered. He's fucking making faces to himself. It's all right, bro. He's good. We love you. No, they're going to do. Just turn the comments off for a couple of days. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:42:27 That's all. I don't think it's any, man. I think we say any, man. It don't matter. I get it. They, you know, you know how it goes. Don't make the shit. You know, they pay.
Starting point is 03:42:38 How do you think how they're seven of the shit on Sunday, name? They got the soup, boys. Church. Yeah, they got the soup. Damn, sure, though. They're going to fry us up. Forgive them for they know not what they do.
Starting point is 03:42:49 It's, Mark. Yes. Yes. Is. Really? I'm surprised that you, bro. Actually, I just thought of a nice little comedy series of niggas pick a.
Starting point is 03:43:00 the trillion dollars and then god just fucking with the br-bo-poo the rest of the episode oh you like handicapped girls huh oh yeah go ahead over there oh my lord
Starting point is 03:43:13 oh my god yes sir good episode for sure yeah this is good episode this is good good job yeah
Starting point is 03:43:30 Get out of it, man. We did it, Nick. He gave me past my good episode. Watch your fucking mouth,
Starting point is 03:43:39 nigga. Every episode I'm going to be good, man. It's just like... I ain't going to lie. Flip went crazy. That's what... I mean, the mom.
Starting point is 03:43:45 Yeah. You got to say that, yeah. Hey, yo, listen, I'm here to support, baby. I'm in my life. I'm here to support, man. I got something for you. I bought something for you.
Starting point is 03:43:53 That's my brother. I bought some of these. You know what I'm saying? I love you, man. I'm still slapping you, though, if you don't come in on your birthday. Are we doing a surprise yore on for him when he don't expect it?
Starting point is 03:44:02 I choke the shout down, yeah. You know, they needed, bro. I was gonna tell you the place. Yeah. I was, I was gonna tell you the place. I can't even hear Todd Dollar sign right around these niggins right now. I got right. Yeah, no, no, no, for real.
Starting point is 03:44:16 No. Honestly, though. Come on, Roy. Honestly. Everybody thinks different, brother. Like, y'all should have just lied. God could hear y'all. You're about to lose favor.
Starting point is 03:44:29 over a hypothetical from the Graham. You about to be stuck in Chinatown tunnels. No, no, no. Because you want to play. But I was lying, God, God, you are crazy. Don't worry about it. Moment it sounds for my goals. It's snowing outside.
Starting point is 03:44:48 They were scared of snow before they did that. Yo, guess way, I'm getting home safe. That's a fact. That's a fact. I live right up there, niggas. I just changed these tires. She's these tires during the tailspan. You were right up that hill. That's a deep hill.
Starting point is 03:45:04 You better not crash. It's going to be like cartoons. I don't remember a cliff being here. Hey, I chose God. Why am I crashing? Why are you talking like this? Mike Check 1, 2, 1, 2, Mike check. I know.
Starting point is 03:45:21 Look at your man. Making my career. Don't wish that on your man's niggas. Don't do that. Wish no. But sometimes. I don't even say things I think because it would be an inopportune time to die right after I said that. You say everything that you think.
Starting point is 03:45:37 You're done, but it's your time. Corey would be having to say your thing. If you believe in them. Tid that up. And that was determined before you got here. Listen, don't talk about it. It doesn't matter what I do. Hey.
Starting point is 03:45:53 A real good song. He only sees me for who I am. Does anybody know that tonight? So, as much as we enjoy delivering it to you, keep us in your prayers, some of us. Keep me in your prayers, at least. The rest of these niggas, I pray they get a buck. Hit the lotto.
Starting point is 03:46:13 Make a mega millions. That's crazy. Oh, Lord knows we need it. Until the next time, we bid you adieu, farewell. Adio, cerebroderchy. Asta, a revoir. Moments past. So let's make this one laugh.
Starting point is 03:47:11 on the closed minded women want you to cheat them things grab you a talent this week he's so disgusting yeah he gives a fuck with your house Friday st-time same place Saturday for y'all actually it might be Friday he saw the best in here no no no he didn't see the best in y'all look at y'all oh wait we ended it we out of here man y'all y'all hold it down man same time same place this weekend throw the left over in the fridge away it's over my nigger yeah it's all right let them shins god you're holding down praying for anybody that might be going through it inside and outside
Starting point is 03:48:17 the pod anybody fighting a silent battle anybody with loved ones you got to take care of people getting sick health as well please can i ask you all one question the question is simply this what did you see i can't get no help of it here because there's some I don't have the phrase, bruce you off, said you would never amount to anything, said that you would never end up being anywhere. But Myron, tell him one more time, what did he see? He's gone. You would never be nothing when Antis and Uncle said that you never mount to anything. Hmm.
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