The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 884 | "The Top Package"

Episode Date: December 6, 2025

The latest episode from the JBP begins with the news of Netflix acquiring Warner Bros. for $82.7 billion (31:39) before the rest of the cast shares their thoughts on the new Puff documentary (45:25). Ray J calls out Beyoncé & JAY-Z for not taking photos with Brandy on her and Monica's tour (1:11:09), Daz Dillinger & Snoop Dogg's beef (1:27:30), and in sports, the LA Clippers waive Chris Paul in his retirement year (1:41:55) while Lebron's 10-point game streak comes to an end at 1,297 games (1:56:57). Also, Klay Thompson names a boat after Megan Thee Stallion which leads the room to discuss moving fast in relationships and dating famous people (2:02:36), Pharrell responds to the controversy over his recent political comments (2:17:18), Meek Mill voices his frustrations with the industry (2:22:30), another delay on Roddy Ricch's new album (2:42:43), Part of the Show (2:57:34), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden 

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Enjoy the show. I hate everybody. Yeah, you should. You're bullies. You can start every episode like that. I hate everybody up there. Twice a week. They up here bullying the Philly people.

They're bullying the Philly people. Now when we back to back and get the swinging in this motherfucker. The Philly people got a different type. Nah, I can't even say that because, well, up, Philly. By my sneakers, too. I can't even say. We ain't here. Smart man.

I used to go to the Mitcher in that store over there. So what else y'all got it? And Philadelphia Pussy is very salt after. That's unique to Philly. Yes. Oh, okay. Nah, a couple of Philly chicks. Well, they wasn't Philly chick, but they was working at Philly.

They had me on that phone at 4 in the morning trying to get them an Uber. Everybody like Philly girls. It's a fact. Okay. Ice can't say nothing. He moved to P.A. It had nothing to do with Philly. I know.

Ice was in red. You lived in Ratt in Ratton, right? I wasn't a damn right. The niggaster. You were Lancaster. Same shit. Puerto Rico. It's witness relocation.

They kind of just put you in the spot. You tell everything. I'm Marika. I'm a Rica. It's half Puerto Rico, half Amish. I was like, I don't think you should say that in a broadcast. You know, Mauna, you got a new tat. I got a couple.

How often do you get them? I don't know. I wanted to, I took years off, so I just want to get my shit together and then, you know. I like tattoos. I got don't call me white girl. I got J.B.P. Sight. You got, oh.

I got more eyes lit up He was ready to take that to the Patreon preview street This is what I really think About Moly's new tattoos When I first saw Moana's tattoo I felt like Well I saw you got juice up there

I didn't know if that was for your home girl Or that was something different Or the movie Yeah juice box Yeah Wait you got juice box on your arm I got a juice box But it's for juice

And it's not about juice box It's not about juice's box Because that's what it's Like you got juice box on your arm But I just thought it would be to get a juice box for my girlfriend. Hey, can the Philly people shut the fuck up? Honestly, y'all get into this little

Venus and Serena Philly ping pong game that the rest of the world don't give a fuck. We call. Cap, they love it. Hey, you said, not you said. So what's Aldreys, though? Like, niggins say the girl is crazy. Like, that prevents them from fucking them.

No, maybe you can go. Depends it depends on what stage you are in your life. Like, niggins say... That's not true. What's not true? I'm not fucking with that. If a nigga told you, yo, she crazy as hell, but she was bad. You leave it in alone?

No, I want you to elaborate on what crazy. Yes. Because it's levels to crazy. Like, yo, she busts my windows in my car crazy. Or she got me... It's other shit crazy. What's the kind of crazy you can deal with? I don't like...

Honestly speaking, I really don't like none of it. What's the kind of you would deal with if she bad enough? Yeah, what's the kind of how you say, I know, we ain't got... We ain't talking about dealing with it. You're talking about... I'll tell you to... Taking it down.

Every dude deals with the crazy of who is that. Why you hit like 17 times. You know that the girls that over, like watch everything you do? If she's bad enough, you would deal with that. I hit it. That's what we're talking about. That's what we're talking about.

But they're dealing with... I don't got to deal with you to pop. We're not talking about that. It's plenty of, that's what we say. But at times, then you pop the crazy chick and she becomes extra crazy. But you knew ahead of time that this was the crazy chick. That's what we're talking about.

That niggas. know she crazy and still go in and do it, and then now you stuck with super crazy. All right. Dog, I haven't told a couple of my homeboys after having, like, you know, they run somewhere and then the girl is at the crib talking to you. I talk for 90 minutes.

Get out of it. And I'm in my head like, oh, I can't wait till my fringered back. Get out of it. My fring her bag? I'm pulling it aside. Yo, yeah. Get out of there. I surely pulled me to the side to talk for 90 minutes.

I'm telling you. This chick is a different level of crazy. Get out of it. And what happened? What happened? Okay. I know what you're talking about, so I remember. Well, he loved it.

He absolutely love. Yeah, that means like, go. Oh, word? Thank you. I think some men like it. Used to be me. Some men like it. But I think it's an age thing.

It's a age thing for sure. For sure. Younger guys might, you know, they like it. But I think much you older, you don't already had your windows busted and had a couple disorderly. You know what I mean? Because that's what happens. Y'all go to jail thing.

You know what she'll go cut all your electronics up in your house. You know, it's stupid shit. That sounded like a personal story. He's told that story. I can't remember when I was crazy like that and how like when you back and back back. I don't. Wait, like what? When you was getting saucy.

Exactly. That's how you know. That's why she's not crazy. She had a crazy pill. But no, I remember like having that feeling like he enjoys this, which almost like take the crazy out of it. because it's like, what the fuck? Like, that's weird. But some men like that.

Are you drawing the dudes that are like that? Huh? Are you drawn to dudes that got a little crazy in? I don't think that that's a dude that has a little crazy in them. I don't know what that is that you like that. I don't know if they get it confused with, like, attention or if I make them feel weird. They feel salt after or whatever, but that's weird to me.

It's always been weird. I don't like none of that shit. Yeah. And the whole, and the whole, like, destroying property thing like that, that shit's weird. That's what I say all the whole time. If you end the crazy girls, you probably ain't got enough experience. Yeah, you have to have to come up. You ain't feel the crazy crazy,

we ain't get the right, crazy. If you ain't into it, you ain't, you ain't match a match, yeah. You think her blowing your phone up or her doing her,

you think that's crazy. You ain't dealt with old girl from thin line between love and hate crazy ass. You haven't gotten to that level. You never had them boys show up at the crib or had to, for either of you all.

Right. Yeah. Crazy is when they don't show up. Shit. You scared the call. You scared the call me. You're scared the call me. It's going to bed

doing a Cindy Lobby video having an exorcist and shit. you don't know what to do. Have you ever had that crazy when you were scared to the bitch a little bit? Yes. Really?

Yes. That's so funny. I wasn't. Not scared. Not physically. I wasn't physically scared. I've had crazy where I knew that there were no bounds

for the person. It wasn't nothing that they would do. I mean, that wouldn't do. And that right there is just some shit that's. I'm being physically scared. Like, you better not fall asleep. Don't close your eyes. And don't let her drive.

I've definitely had maybe slightly irrational fears of falling asleep. For sure. For sure. Certain shit, you can't go sleep, right? It's stabbing the shit out of you. Yeah, it's a stabbin that you worry about. When you said, don't let her drive, they used to my favorite drone. Like, I would drive and be like, I smashed this motherfucker right.

That was my thing. In that moment, did you mean it? No. I don't know. But I would always say, but I will always say, like, I'm going to smash it, but I was on his side. You know what I mean? Like, it was never going to kill us. I'm a little swathing when you said to?

Yeah. You think you can drive like that? I'll say car. I'm a good driver. I just had this conversation with somebody. I'm a great driver. seem like you might. Like I don't drive like I'm from Jersey.

You know what I mean? Whoa. You're not a good driver. Jersey people can't drive and it's a known thing. We're not going to waste time on it. That being said number two in the country and my personal experience is the square state. PA. Oh.

Y'all number two on the list. A bad drivers? Correct. Wow. But Pennsylvania? What? What? Wait, we got about to let Buffalo and Philly niggas talk about Jersey drivers.

Y'all are terrible? I would think, that's not true. Like, nationally regarded as terrible drivers. Like, why? Why would everybody say it every race? Nationally, got a mind a business. Word. Nationally, don't bring up national.

Don't bring up the nations. It's only because you're stolen cars. I'm about it. That's actually how it feels when I'm around Jersey people. You're from New York. Yeah. And then me and Parks talking about it last night. LA drivers, D.C. drivers and Atlanta drivers are on this list.

Atlanta drivers are there before you get the jersey. I got the cake. Atlanta is the worst place. Atlanta might have a cake. When me and Parks talked about it, we were finishing each other's sentences about Jersey jobs. Like literally knew exactly what, like, I don't know, y'all suck at drugs. All right, so y'all bonded one night.

And y'all can be wrong. Yeah, nobody can't. We're all right? Us and everybody else. Yeah, everybody else is wrong, right? Just us and everything. I came on here and said, I'm back to the stalker shit now because it's a movie in my head. I came on here and said when the stalker girl

was a jogger and she was jogging just by my house. Just happened to be jogging by your crib. And she said, hey, do me a favor. Water. Leave a bottle of water out there for me. I'm by your house. I met there with my kid.

You get red dress. You remember? Scared the shit out of us. Oh, please. It scared me so much. I was trembling getting her number. All right. You my man.

You're my man. You my guy. Yo, she's scared me so much. I almost didn't get the number. I hate these things, boy. No, that was some bullshit that day. I don't kill. And then pass crazy, because I ain't going to call it crazy.

But when you, when you, when you meet the girl that really only like girls but then she likes your dick and now she's open to men you're the first guy that have opened her up the men that girl's a nutcase that girl is an absolute stalker deranged I don't think I've fucked that many lesbians

I'm about saying I argue that they're not lesbians I guess they're bisexual technically is you the first dick you think that they're not lesbians you being the first penis that they enjoy You think they're not like me? No, your behavior from penis tells me that you're not a lesbian. Okay. Uh-huh.

Guess what I didn't know, y'all. Tell us. Lesbians, like the harder versions, I don't know if you're allowed to stay, like, stud or whatever. I like to say Zike with a Z. I think that that's a lot. I think so. My people like it. But they like dick.

They be sneak-dicking. Oh, yeah. It's an epidemic. Bro, late night. Late night at the Y-WI, and it gets. in the Wawa separately, they get in the same car, they bros, but she got a fat ass under the Methicas. First of all, I've always thought that it suck.

Like, imagine being a stud, you got this whole male persona, but you got a fat old ass on you. They don't know. They don't know. But they put three sports bars on and they got one titty. But it's one. It's one titty in the middle. But when you walk past with that fat ass,

you sagging on some tough shit, you know what I mean? He's like, bro, your ass fat as shit, bro. You know what I mean? That's the suck. Or you your old hippie. Shout out to y'all. The hippie studs, yeah. The hippies.

The hippies. But no, they sneak dick, and I'm telling you, they have a craving for it. Okay. Thanks to that information. You taught me that. But can I also add this? I always thought it was strange men that were attracted to them because it's like the whole persona is male. You know what I mean?

So what's up with you? I concur. You feel me? When I say that, people are still a girl, but I'm just saying her exterior gives men. So what attracted you? Like, what made you look through the ethics at the fed ex? This pussy under the motherfucker's jeez. Exactly.

You got car. Hey, you can put on all the du racks you want to lock. There's pussy under there. Have any of y'all ever, like, dated a stud? No, no. Or had sex with one. How about you? You got used to use different words around here.

Many of y'all never hit a stud. No. Never. No. Free. Why are you making a face? I ain't making no, I'm laughing at Mona, bro. You know Mark Pop one?

Do you know something? You said something? Oh, shit. You know something, nigga. Mark Poppaw one, too. What? Mark Pop the stud? Huh?

Mark and ICE I'm 46 years old. Why am I in this conversation? Because you didn't say nothing. Wait a boy, that's my thing. Why y'all don't cop to it? I was about you, but then Ice made the face. I was bonded to face.

And then he just sold me to fuck out. I'm minding my business. Can I hear from y'all? This is interesting. How to go? You took the wave cap off before you pop? Yeah, dress. Oh.

I love this. One of Newark's studs that play bidwitz. I'm telling you this. I'm not talking to you. He was about to tell you. The truth of y'all, shut up. He was about to give it up. All right.

I want to hear ICE. Where'd your meet at? Damn, I'm still a mutual friend. Years and years, yeah, high school. She spotted you. Hooping. No, no, no, no. Hooping.

She's crossing you to fuck up. Me and the bitch, fuck, dig us up at the Yant T. Oh, man. Hoopin. That is hilarious. What happened? Bro, we were really good friends and she was curious. Okay.

That's it. Did she love it? So you were like the entry. That makes a good way to start. I love what ice tell him. Hey, you know, ice stories. He simplifies everything.

Yeah. So you got to be agitated by the time he tell it. So you mean to tell me. He's an entry level dick. Yeah. Entry level dick. He got a start, she's got to start basic. Whatever.

Now, I know his brain. Now, I know it's early, so my brain ain't functioned it all the way yet. So I'm back to be raw. And I hate that I'm the guy that always highlighted. I know. That's not you're a brain. So you mean to tell me Out of all the niggas in Nebraska

She got curious and said, you know what? I need some of little frees. Yeah, nigga. All right, big dog shit. Damn right. All right, what's there you, brother, Mark? My situation was different. What happened was when I met her, she wasn't a stud.

And then I circled back like five years later and she looked different. Like I bumped into her like at a bar. Barbershop. A barber shot He got a line up together Yo, tape me up Tape that thing

No, I was like What happened to you? She was like Mark, you can't do that What happened to you? I didn't say it like that But I was like, oh, you know how many girls now who dooo-oo-oo-oo-woo-woo.

We exchanged info actually just to get up You know what I mean And you got up And then she sent me a text that night Like, you know, I'm still in the niggas So we got, I mean, that was it Yeah she come to be in the boxers And the beat her?

Word. Only five times. Three? Only three times. Now, see, they did your thing. Now, after y'all were done with you three times, did she fuck would do more,

did she go back to girls? I don't know. No, no, I take that back. Well, I don't know. Because y'all was friends. She would have never. But this is 20 years ago, damn there. So she's, she's into girls.

She's. Yeah. Yeah, she's, okay. Hey, you killed that too. All right, don't recommend. Bring open and great closers. You ain't rep for the niggas. Hey, listen.

You gotta read the Yelp review on that one. When y'all were friends, for her to approach you as friends, I know it fucked you up. Like, you were shocked, like, what? Like, because that shit, bro, that's your homie. Yeah, it was shocked. Hey, Joe. I'm sorry.

He was, like, looking behind him. All right. One type of pile we have in a bit. You can already know. No, no, no, but I need it clear. I need it clear, though. I need it clear. But wait, a guy, because it seems like I'm on booing.

bullshit, but I do have a serious question for y'all. Ice and Mark. Was there every time where y'all was on top? And she just was leaned back on some chills. Like, while you was doing your numbers? You think she was hitting it from behind? What I see?

I'm serious. I promise you. I want to know if y'all was on top paws. You'd be on your Pac-Man shit. She was like, yeah, get her. I'm not doing this. I am no longer sharing. I'm no longer sharing.

Oh, man. You can't be the stud eater. Deter. She stood up on that nigga. Put her leg up and shit. Oh, man. Would you all do it again? Would you all do it again?

No. Mark? No. If you weren't. I know what you mean. No, I know what you mean. But no. Yeah, no.

Even if we were single, we would do. Yeah. I would. You wouldn't do it to that particular. You didn't. No, I was one of the fire. I'm not talking about her. Homegirls that was just a fire stud.

They do be fired. I see the, if they open to it, if I was single and they were open to it, it would be different. Yeah. Probably. Probably. You wouldn't, Joe? I mean, I can't say that I would. I'm not attracted to that aesthetic.

No, but remember, I seen it before she was that. So I had the memory of the priest. If she ain't that no more. She was that when I saw that night. That's the thing. If I got to wait until you get naked to be attracted to you. I was, but I'm not, man, I'm not knocking about it. How about you, Ish?

It's not my thing. Like, I can't. Me and I sh fuck bad bitches all the whole life, nigga. Like, Isch, you want to tell me anything? You want to tell him? Well, you want to sip your little tea and be cute in your little quarter of it. Good tea. Listen, me and I just put numbers on the board our entire lives.

We didn't go through, like, dull spells like anybody else. Right, y'all at every age. Yeah, yeah. All y'all hit was the bad. Same girls, though. Me and Ish, anything we wanted to hit, that's who we hit. And if you got it like that.

Because you're my man, I just let you cook. And if you got it like that. I'll let them cook. Why would it be a stud? You know what I mean? So if y'all hit baby, just the whole life, you'll never hit in an ugly ever? I definitely hear something like.

Oh, okay. I definitely hit something ugly. But I'll tell people about it. All right. I was about to say, please say no. She was ugly with that he. Hey. She was ugly with that he.

Everybody had to be. One in particular, I was like, this nigga Joe is tripping, you know. I ain't fucking, hold up now. It ain't a whole bunch of things. I ain't saying a bunch. I'm just talking about that one. That one. What was up with that one?

It was just, it was very different than what I was used to see in him. Oh, but he'd be putting imaginary people on my body. I'm not. You're talking about that bodyguard, bitch. I did not. No, I did not. We didn't got to do this, yo. You said it did not.

You're a fucking bodyguard? You fuck female Kevin Kossus? You fuck female, Kevin Kossis. Ice, I did not. Fuck that bodyguard. They could be lying, bro. I promise you. The thing asked me to take a friend out

so he could, you know what I mean with the chick. And I still didn't fuck a bodyguard. This niv as you have on like the boots and the whole black uniform. I can assure you. Flashlight. Yo, I'm going to shoot you something about. On my kids.

The body guards be having fat asses under them uniforms. Right back to the beach. Right. They're back. The asses be fast. So you fuck the bodyguard. I've seen her knock niggas out. Security guard police.

I was a free. Police be having fat asses under them. You have a step from a stud. Wait, wait, wait, what? You are crazy. They look like women. With the fat ass under there. Fucking the police officer

where the fat ass is about, all right. No way. There's nowhere near it, dog. You can't even make it make sense. That's what you're saying. I'm saying, maybe probably. They don't have to be. You're just as a bodyguard.

Nah, so. Is she not thinking out? We talked about you to the other thing. We're talking about two of a thing. I'm saying all of that is in the private territory. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not.

No, she got him. I saw him out was 6-4-290. That's the one you fuck. And I knock you out. That's the one you fuck. No, not at all. You climbed up. Ice.

On my kids. Don't play with me. Don't ruin my body. I love the niggins lie on their kids. Well, I was going to say, on God, but that don't work here either. They work for you. But we say that shit. Oh, man.

That's crazy. Six-four? Yeah, I was great. That's being generous. Wow. Were you intimidated? A little. A little.

She took it. She took it for sure. Pitting his ass down. Frist them and fucked them. Frist them. Yes, she did. Oh, man. Frist them.

Damn. I'm sorry that happened to you. Yeah, but nothing happened to you. It's nothing funny about that. You can admit it, it's all right. It sounded like Ish was the babysitter. It's okay. It wasn't your fault.

No, I was an adult. Hish was a child when the babysitter took advantage. Oh my God, Joey. And that's not okay. That's wrong person, first of all. None of it is okay. The bodyguard taking it ain't okay. No, no, no, no.

I'm saying I know you and the bodyguard were consensual. I confirmed that. And I'm glad for you, man. Yo, that is hilarious, man. Shut the fuck the bodyguard. Was it his bodyguard? No. No.

Damn, that's just weird. The funny is, if you ask her, she ain't even going to lie and say that that happened. She wouldn't even lie on it He might already ask him. Who would have that one night they slammed the nigga down and took it? I ain't talk to her. Y'all both better Stop playing with that bitch when she finds out.

She knows who she is. She knows exactly what she ain't that many six foot four Two-nighties. Exactly. She just rolled the window up and turned the radio up. Is these niggas talking about me? The niggas must have forgot her up. The funny shit, the black Twitter streets

know who the fuck we're talking about. She got a long-term relationship after and put that niggis through that. Why are you, come on, so. Now you're doing the most. Yeah, she put that dick of Drew the Frater. For years, you'd fucking him up. Boom, nigga, what you say?

Yo, he's still going. They still are, man. He can't leave. No, no, I'm talking about. I'm talking about. Yeah, they tumble. Yeah. To this day.

Love. See? All right. Love. Now they, you are you out. You'll play something, please. Here we go. Let's get some fairy tales going for the lies being told up here. It's a lot of lies. I'm going to play Paul Simon.

Yeah, the bodyguard came to the compound, but I ain't hit, though. Shout to all the police women out there. For sure. All the crazy women, all the stalkers, all the beautiful studs. Indeed. If I fucking stud, they got to have some waves. You know what I mean? I have to have some waves.

You smell like Murray's next. That's weird, bro. Hey, yo, you, look, look, that is funny. Think about this. I remember I was fucking with the chick with the real, real short hair cut. That shit was awkward. That shit is awkward. Cory,

you're lying? That shit is awkward. Not the Hallie Berry cut. I'm talking about short. Not no Tony Braxton chief. That shit is awkward. We had this conversation yesterday, me and him. That shit is awkward.

I said the same thing. Oh, let the mail there. I'm going to say if... He's just with some more ammo. I'm on your side of this. Oh, yeah, you're crazy, especially in the 2000s? Yeah, I want to...

That Neo-Soul-time girls had the little John A joint you know what I mean? Like the shortcuts dead of the little... What's awkward about it? You grab my... about it? Nothing. That's the shit. That's the bar they're missing.

That's the bar they're missing. No, you just got, you might not be, it's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I wish I had some odd excuse me. That shit is weird by the guy. But you can't tell me why.

They got a low-ass haircut and you, you know what? You get piped down, you. No. Touched you. Yeah. Like, you know, nigga getting the good head, you start being a hairdresser. You start. Facts.

Word. Yeah, that shit is different. Really? Just looking at the back. body from the back. You know, you know, when a chick with a low hair cut give you good head, there's other things that can happen

besides you being a hairdress. No, I'm, you're making a joke. You can touch their body. There's also less interference. You're short. Maybe that idea on me. I can't really touch their body. When a chick got that low hair,

you get to feel a scalp. That's a different type of intimacy, first of all. When you get to rub on their fucking scamping, it's like, oh, my God, that is beautiful. Exactly. Shout to all my short hair queen's idea. absolutely love y'all. I love it.

I love that. It's cool. I'm a little bald. And you pitched it to him wrong like you said Neo Soul. I was in doing that time a lot of ticks had that. Shit.

They were fine and shit. If you said like Ivory Soul or some shit. Oh, where I got you? There you go. Get him and get a blue-eyed soul. But yeah, bald white bitch and change his world. Not a lot of ball white girls.

Yeah. Exactly. I'm good. I'm good. Demmy more? Shit. Damn. Yeah.

Had that. Yo, when y'all fuck the studs When y'all fuck the studs If y'all went out Like, did they ever pay? Hold the door Pull the chair out Put your jacket off for you

Oh wait Yo, girl, let me smack y'all ass Yeah, like after the act Like, hey, bow All right, some silly shit Yeah, got it, got it. All right, this is a family show Yeah

Big time. Come on. Yeah, I mean, let's get right into the proceedings this evening. Y'all mean, my weekend vibes. Shout to everybody up cleaning right now. Everybody at the airport taking a trip, everybody on vacation, for Christmas and all that. We're a few weeks away.

If I fuck the studs, you couldn't touch the a ox. It's mad. It's going to put DMS. It's mad shit that I wouldn't let her do with her fucking. Oh, man. And she got to know how to make grits. Get your boy that. and then fucking get the chef in.

You'd be shocked how many chicks don't know how to make grits until you ask them. There's a lot of chicks that don't know how to make grits. So glad you all could be here with a shout to the Patronies. Shout to everybody over there on you. We're going to start this bad boy, but I need to hear this verse. Year's Eve. Shout to everybody making New Year's Eve plans.

Everything is creeping up. We're on the corner. Yeah, I know. And I got no plans. I think it's going to be quiet for me this New Year's Eve, too. We might to have a little party somewhere or something. I'm not mad at that. Loki shit, but.

I'm not mad at Loki New Year's Eve this year. I'm not. Keep this applause gone. You're ice and fish. All right, 884. That's right. Welcome to episode 884 of the JCP. Brought to you by Fuel by Power.

by Price Pikes Price, bitch, gang. Yeah. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, super happy to be here, host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right. You're already know the vibes, huh? In Tacoma, Washington, they're gonna know the vibes this weekend. Big show this weekend out there.

Make some noise. Don't call me white girl. Big Domona in the building. Next to her, we have our good brother, our good, I can't talk today. Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. Peace. Next to him, we have fucking.

King Wawa, missed a thousand doors and up. That's that is in the quarter zit. Hey. Hey. All ready. Is this any of this shit out yet in the streets? This week.

He's testing shit. Oh, got it. Got it. They got the quarter zip on them already. Yeah, they're killing them. This week. That nigger turns shit around faster. I'm not even thinking about that.

Fasting in fashion. Nova, boy, if he's thinking that shit is out being mailed to you in 24 hours or less. Stupid. Hey. Hey. I mean. Badly. I know.

Come on. That's too much fun. Next in, we got the freesiest of them. All missed to taking further. Ice is in the building. Yo, yo, yo. Next to him, big parks.

Elmira's finest is in the building. We got Poe in the building. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Tianan and Sabana here by remote. Last but certainly not least. Each and every one of you guys are here. How's everybody doing?

Popping though. What's popping no. What's popping no? What's up? Morning. Feel great. Busy week. Good. Good, good. Glad everybody is feeling great. Can I say fuck y'all? Just real fast because Who's y'all? Everybody. All of us. Except more. Well, yeah, monitude. Last week I got passed out on set. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody checked them and they got woke you up. You've been doing it for a year. No, no, I didn't fall asleep. I actually passed out. You didn't pass out. What did I do? You fell and I thought you hit your head on the thing. Uh-huh. So you were sitting there like this. Yeah, I was caught to being knocked out.

Looking like CD Lamb and I was like, yo, me and Mona looked at each other like, yo, is this n-is-n-going? I was not sure if you if it was for the TV? Yeah, no, I was out. Yeah. And I'm about to hit you, but. And then when you woke up, you're like, no, no, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. I finished working because I'm professionals, but a little

you're, how'd you pass out? I really don't know. I don't know. I was a little sick last week. You haven't too good of time. Are you building a case? What the fuck is this? No. Did someone here take advantage? Oh, shit. Yo, what's wrong with you, dogs?

Are you all right? Mona asked me today, like, yeah, you're all right, you was knocked out last week. It's been seven days. We know you was all right. We saw you posted. Well, are you all right? I think so.

I haven't passed out since. There you go. Good. Is that your first time passing out? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It was weird.

Yeah. Well, we're glad you were all right. Yes, we are. Some doctor he is, huh? Stupid. Anywhere you don't want to go, I'm down to go, boss. We got big news in the entertainment. This is absolutely crazy.

Yeah, this is absolutely nuts. It was announced that Netflix is acquiring Warner Brothers. Acquired, did it. Acquired. Not even acquiring. 80-something billion, right? Yeah, 87 or 82 billion dollars. Wow.

Insanity. It's crazy to me to think about how this could even happen. I remember when Netflix was just, you know, they mailed you in CD or DGD. Little niggas. You know what I'm saying? And then they were fighting blockbusters. Now they are the behemoth on the landscape. That's crazy to me to see just how far they've come.

It speaks to some of these CEOs in their vision. Dead ass. Like, nobody could have ever thought that this was going to turn into that. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, that's crazy. I looked at this as a pivot move or a response move because I remember, we all remember a couple years ago, Netflix had that movie Bright with Will Smith.

Uh-huh. But it failed. But at the time, it was like if this works because you got eight, Lister Will Smith and this movie was straight to Netflix. If this works, this could literally change the game. And you saw a lot of, I mean, the movie wasn't the greatest, but it did look like it was a lot of input on it so that this did not work. So with that not working, all right, our next option is now we're going to come over here

and we're going to buy up a studio. Yeah. We're going to get in this way. And not a studio. Yeah. No, these studio. Right. Yeah.

them. So now they got, I mean, that's HBO, HBO Max. So now you got the whole Oz Entourage, Sex in the City, the Wire, you got all of those catalogs for niggas to just stream. Niggas that never heard about it, they could go, you know what I mean, niggas

that heard about it, never saw it. Right. I'm right there. And way more movies. Way more shit. Not just, yeah, the game is subscriber base. So now you phase out the HBO Max app. You could. My Apple TV is about to be two apps. Right.

We're going to get there too because that's part of the problem for me. But, and I know a lot of stuff is going to get developed in Q3. So even though they made the acquisition and it was happening, you'll see it in like in the third quarter, 2006. You'll see a lot of this stuff. One of the things they said was they're going to keep Warner Brothers the brand because it's, and I think that's smart. You know, some people, the ego, you just want to take over everything and have your name and everything. But Warner Brothers is a brand name. It's an American tradition.

So you're still going to see Warner Brothers in the movie theater. I think that's brilliant. Genius. You know what I mean? Hey, HBO, you hold on to those titles. For sure. What happens is you'll see Warner Brothers and then underneath it will say a Netflix company. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. As long as you still. But I need to see that Warner Bros. I was watching certain shows and I'm used to seeing like, you know, whatever the logo is and then underneath it'll say such and such. Now it's changing. Sundance. These, like, because they're buying up these networks.

They buy them. These studios. I mean, man, bro. Do you think this is going to change the kind of programming they do? original programming? Yeah, like, well, you see like prequels for things. And, you know, like, Netflix, like, producing a lot of content right now.

In the same way, like, after HBO, we're HBO Max, and you started to see different kinds of content come into HBO label. I'm just wondering, we'll shape the kind of shows we're going to see. I think you acquire HBO for their back catalog. Because the HBO not necessarily doing what Netflix does. You know what I'm saying? So now I'm going to just go get all of HBO shit.

Now put that up under my umbrella, but we can still keep doing what we've already been the greatest in master at. You know what I'm saying? That's dope. I think they would have to. Bad catalog is awesome, but Netflix has built their own studio. They're getting into original shit.

I could see a world where they take a story that they didn't have access to and now prequel it like you said. Or make it go further like you said. That's what I'm expected. That could be it. At that number, I'm thinking more than backcountry. They have to have a plan. They have to.

But even that, right? Their plan has been right in front of us, right? They're doing this, which is incredible. This is monumental. What they announced that they're doing with those video podcasts. Yeah.

Their football games. Yeah. Netflix went live. Like just that. Netflix's going live. And they tested it out with, you know, a little comedy special here,

boxing match here. But. Oh, yeah, they got Netflix sports. You get what I'm saying? Like, they are, this is a full on takeover.

For sure. We cover in every, we got sports. We got this. I mean, what's the next news? It's big dogs on the block now. Yeah. Yeah.

No, no, this is our block. Yeah, and it's a long block. We're not even battling you on this block. We bought the block. We bought the battlefield. It can't be, man. It's exciting. I do like the HBO app.

I do. I hope they leave it there. I'm going to consolidate. Yeah, consolidated app. To me, because what I say, I'm thinking about what Hulu did, I mean, what Disney did with the Hulu and all that. They integrated everything into the Disney app. I could see HBO doing the same thing.

I mean, excuse me, Netflix doing the same thing. And if they do that, what old show becomes number one right away? The Wire? One of them. Game of Thrones. I can't hear any of you. Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones.

Yeah. Right in that order. Bro. You got 10, like, HBO had a run of, like, a good 12 shows that just was true blood. Yeah. Fucking soprano, Sex in the City, Entourage. They just had the Wire. Eyes.

They just went crazy for a good. 15 years, two decades. So you got now all of that stuff to people that's 28, 29 years old that wasn't around. You're like, yo, I'm watching Oz. This deal was the first time I thought about how much money Netflix has. 80 billion to spend. Because when I went to bed, all of the reports said, Netflix is thinking about acquiring. And when I woke up, it said Netflix has acquired.

Yeah, yeah. That's literally. Netflix has it now, you guys. That's what it said. Now, not everybody's happy. I know you said you can't get mad at that, but a lot of people are getting mad at that. Who's mad at that?

Some politicians, Elizabeth Warren, for example, spoke up. Mark, don't politician me to death. Is anybody else, man? Some content creators. But what's the argument? It's an antitrust argument, right? And it'll be ultimately up to the feds to find out whether it's true or not. But the idea that they have, that market dominance, right,

that they basically have a monopoly over the entire streaming industry, which is not what you're not supposed to have, reduced reducing competition and then also having too much control. So the idea is that they can dictate terms to directors in Hollywood or content creators now because you got no place else to go.

And so it's hard to get a fair deal. That's the argument that content creators are worried about. And from the political side, which I do think matters, the question is, does this stop? Are they too powerful? Are they too big? That's the thing that people are worried about.

Now Netflix has said in their defense, this is going to create more opportunities for creatives. This is going to create more opportunities and more avenues through the various things they're acquiring. It's up to the world to decide, but people are not happy about it. Some people are not happy about it. I mean, there was a, I'm reading here from Variety.

It says a group of major industry players has sent an urgent open letter to Congress, warning of an economic and institutional meltdown in Hollywood if Netflix succeeds in acquiring Warner Brothers slash discovery. And that's what I heard when you were talking about the content creators and politicians. Hollywood. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

I just see Hollywood. Old Guard. Bro, what does this mean for the movie theaters? Like, this could be way more than just streaming. Like, now if we got Warner Brothers, the actor, studios, we have everything. We can literally create new films and bring them straight to Netflix.

We don't have to put them in theaters. But, yo, have we, aren't we already there? No. I mean, the transition is slow, but the writing's on the wall. Bro, a movie comes out. And in a month, that shit is on. pay-per-view and being able to be streamed. I don't, that's a month

if it's doing bad in theaters. That's not true. It used to be six months. The average right now is the three months if it's doing okay. If it's doing bad in theaters, if they have a horrible first week, if they're taking an L on it, they'll pull it from theaters and then they'll shoot it straight to stream it. But on average, it's

about three months now. Wow. And that's, I mean, that's still short. That is short. I don't like it. When we were growing up. It was a while. Some shit that came about January. It might hit VHS or DVD like by the summer or maybe late spring. That's different though.

You had to actually physically make all this shit and distribute it. Right. Bro, Senors did well. Yeah. Senors came out April 18th. It was able to be streamed in July, first week of July. That's fast. That's crazy.

And Senters was a hit. Yeah, I don't like it. It makes to me, it takes the thing out of the movies. Like you don't have that thing of Willie Wondergo see it in the theater. And I always enjoy going to the movie. movie theater. Now, if you didn't, the movie theater wasn't your thing, you know what I mean? If you were going to move theater since a kid, your first date at the movie theater, you got a hand job movie theater. It's the thing for you.

I've made, unfortunately, I've been about movie theaters sticking around and everyone thinks it's the end of the world. I don't think. I think my movie theater that I go to, which is not an eye picker, one of the fancy ones, they just renovated the whole shit. So clearly there's still some money coming in. It has to be. But I think, I look at what you're saying about movie theater. We live in right now, and a lot of people are in the, I want it right this second. Right. So the same way, Marry's the same way, took a hit because now you could go on Amazon and order everything and it comes the next day or same day.

Niggas want to be able to hear this is available and I could just go home and push a button and watch it. For me. That convenience, but I'm just saying the level of convenience and people wanting everything immediately. There's a lot of people that would, you know, it's certain movies where it's like I don't want to go to the movies to see it. And if I knew it dropped today and I could go home and just hit a button and watch it, I personally, I would take that. To be clear, that's not Netflix's fault. That's just, that's just the way to. All of that progression, all of that, the world's changing, because I'm pro-world changing,

but I just feel like the direction we go to is just less human contact. And I just, I don't think it's a good thing. Oh, yeah. We do not see you in your house on a shit or watching a movie versus you go have a little conversation with the popcorn girl. You say hi to the movie guys. Like, we just, we're never going to see you. And the other side of that, Mona.

That popcorn girl was a bitch. She was grew this fucking. No, where you were at, my popcorn bitch, give me extra butter. Don't ask extra butter now. My popcorn girl was the best. The other side to that, how much it costs go to movies? It was expensive.

It was expensive. Today. 100 bucks. You spend a hundred bucks if you go with somebody. Whereas I could pay y'all this, what is it? I think Netflix right now, if you got the top package, it's $24.99 a month or something. Don't say that again.

Yeah, that was crazy. Top package. If you have their best. I mean, I get it. I get it. But for a lot of people, that makes more sense. I can go home and watch the movie with my family for, even if they sell in the stream,

independently for $20. I could go home with my family of five for $20. So I'll be breaking the Netflix up to like five other people. Can't do that no more. They shut that shit down. That shit is a dub. Yeah, and then I love that they shut it down. Over for that.

Like, at all, can't do it. The message comes on the screen like, nigger, you know it's five of y'all using this. Nah, that shit pop up. Yo, this is not the house where this account is registered is. Either put a code in or sign up for your own shit. I mean, you make so much money. You know, I don't know what you're talking about.

That is a bona fide fact that. Netflix shut that shit down. You cannot share your passport to everybody watch it. You would have to get on the schedule and everybody pick times to watch it. But when you clicking at the same time, they know and they shut it down. And now what they do is you give you two weeks. So they'll send you a code.

You got it for two weeks. And two weeks from now, we're going to lock this shit out again. We make too much money to be doing this. I signed up. I was watching a puff doc. They sent it shit on the top of the screen. My people sent their people email. Wait, you don't got your own Netflix?

You use somebody's? I mean, my girl uses I thought you were the owner and you distributed to your bands in him. No, he's the password of borrower. You don't have Netflix? No.

He has password that shit in my house, I'm really surprised. My girl deals with all this stuff in that house. I don't deal with, like, that's not my shit. Yeah, I don't care about that.

What do you do for fun, is? What do you mean? What are you doing for fun? Mad shit. So much fun of Monopoly to have. Yo, no, I don't care about, I don't care about, like, techie stuff and all.

the apps and all that. If I got a question, I'll call ice. Because I know you don't do social media like that. It's not really my back. Yeah. So you don't do social media like that. You don't have Netflix. I have Netflix.

You have it, but you're not really into TV shows. He got a phone. Do you read the paper? I read books. I don't read the paper. You talk to on a book reader. Mona's having a hard time figuring out what you really enjoy it. What could it be?

Damn, man. What is it? It's a missing element here. It's an element. It's an element. I can't, we can't quite put up in, I don't get the joke. He can.

Hey, Mona. Do I want to explain it? Hey, Mona, I got you, girl. Hey, look at me. Look at me. The pussy. I was thinking that. I was thinking that.

No. Hey, the Mona. It's the pussy. He likes talking around the phone. It's the pussy. It's the pussy. It's a boring potter. You said that last week.

He is born for podcasts. And pussy. He born for podcasts and pussy. You know, what is wrong this guy, yo? Oh, man, y'all should stop sharing passwords, though. And I'm not mad at Netflix cracking down if you're trying to buy some shit that costs $84 billion. I'm coming from every one of y'all.

Yes. Sorry. 1799, 1399. I need all of my subscription. Oh, just wait. We'll get it back. Oh, yeah. It'll be a little hype.

I already thought about that. Shit, yeah. Yeah, it made sense. You said you watched the puff dog. Right? Yes. Did everyone here watched the puff dog? All four episodes.

All right. You five, take it away. I didn't really get that much more information from this. I think it was really well done. I didn't get a lot more information than we've gotten in the doc that we got a couple years ago and through all the press coverage of the last year, personally. It was just better done, like you said. Yeah, this was really

well done. And they painted the picture they were trying to paint. Oh, for sure. For me. Oh, for sure. They were trying to paint or the picture that it is. Because you say trying to paint, it's like they got a narrative, or is that just what it is. They, whatever their intention was with this doc, they nailed it. They did it. Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. I think when you tell a story about anybody, you could tell multiple stories. There's another story about Puff you could tell that would leave you feeling different about him. That would also be true. Okay. I get it. But this one felt true. And this one needed to be told, given everything that's going on.

I'm not defending it. I'm just saying, like, I do think there's multiple stories. And they had a particular story they wanted to tell, which I thought was good. And for me, I agree with y'all. Like, it wasn't so much that it was new information. I think you said this the other day, Joe. It wasn't that it was new information, but the storytelling was so good.

Yeah. And a lot of these docs, especially wants to come out fast, this is not good storytelling. Yeah, they saw. Yeah, they saw. And again, remember, my bad moment, you're all speaking for your demo. Like, my parents called me.

Fair, yeah. And was like, yo, I had no idea about a lot of the stuff that they mentioned in this. It was shit that was new to me, but I looked at this, excuse me, nigga this shit was higher than stranger things yeah it was oh no they made so

well because the stranger things niggas is 39 I know that but but that's beside the point I don't know how y'all still getting this later we'll talk about the stranger things but my point though with that just recently and they grew up weird now

they did they did you know they grew up weird and nobody wants to say it so they're trying to put these niggas on a promo run they look like stranger things you can't really

go ahead man this is pretty good though but yeah but the fact is, you know, a lot of people were waiting for stranger things. And this was higher than that. So this tells me it's going to be a lot of eyes getting a lot of new information. Some of us, yeah, we might know certain things. I gained new information.

And they painted this shit as that was his MO. Yes. Right. Oh, okay. That's your girl. I want her. Whoa. And I'm going to, whatever, I'm taking, like, that Eric Servant stuff?

Brough, I never knew. Eric Serving. That's the story I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. Yeah. man was like on the window I was like oh this motherfucker crazy yeah he a little trod I didn't know that I didn't know um that he got bad like he because the the neighbor the one that because

they live in a duplex and she's written out they written out the downstairs to the other family he alluded to that he went through like rough beatings getting his asses right but he like he was like it was like oh like he don't want to remember it like it was so traumatic or whatever um he's him and his mind was so like in love with him like whenever you would see him I just didn't I didn't know that. And I like the fact that they really went into, to me, I took it like Janice was still street connected after the dad died.

You know what I mean? Before it's almost like... They invited real smooth. Right, because before it's like, okay, they're from Harlem. He's this big drug dealer. He gets murdered. They're in Mount Vernon.

They're excluded from him. He's going to private school. But no, she's driving in Harlem and she's her and she could leave her car. She really was outside for real. That's the brilliance of it to me when you tell a story like that where you lead to audience understanding it without having to be heavy-handed with it like some of these other docs. Like, my man was just like, yeah, she just leave the car there, leave it running, and nobody mess with it.

Like, just saying it like that, we got it. You know what I'm going to. Yeah, like, to me, that's what made the storyteller. It must have been pretty wild for Puff to have found out his mom was working in the after-hour spot on a talk show. I don't think he, I didn't think that was real. I thought that he just reacted that way. You ain't got to tell the world. Yeah, I think he knew his mom was going on.

That's just some cutie shit for TV. That's how I took in part. That was some cutie TV shit because, like, they're in tune and they tight. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Now, one part that was a little confusing with me. But it might have been, because, you know, we end this. We're in the industry shit.

So, you know, you say what you're supposed to say or what the public is to tell you to say. But at one part, he's doing some kind of interview that I've never seen before. And it's like from the late 90s or early 2000s. And he says something about that his mom was, that's the same. It's the same scene from when he was talking about that he had to fight, like he had to whip ass or he would get in trouble. That interview. I had never seen that before ever. And I was like a puppy fan.

Like I've seen every little, when they show clips of his interviews and shit, I've already seen it. You know what I mean? I had never seen it before. I want them to drop that. Because the way he was talking about candidly, it seemed like he was being real honest

in that interview. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, exactly what you're talking about. And then at the bottom it says something, it was a title, it was almost like that was a documentary that never came on. Yeah, that part, I don't know the source of it,

but I agree. All the childhood stuff, having people tell stories from his childhood. Yeah. It gave you a sense of his mindset. They were building a case about his mindset. For sure. that I thought was helpful.

When Joe came in and talked about it, I thought it was going to be worse than what it was. For me, to Parks' point, I had heard 97% of that shit already. A couple of things were new. Like, I never heard the nigger say, yo, he really gave us a million. He hired us for a million dollars.

I never heard that before. Right? That was new for me. But I think the part about him getting his ass whoop by his mom, and I think the whole episode four, I think they shot him some bell They were pretty

They tried to be fair I think episode four Really shot him a whole bunch of bell Where was the bill? The jurors They didn't have to do that in that dock Yeah true They didn't have to talk to the jurors

Because the jurors were like, nah We thought she was lying And we felt Yeah, it was just two people in love Yeah, like they didn't have to display that In the dock I think the dude rod Little rod

Nobody took him seriously No Which is a shame I think that, I think that. I'm saying that as somebody that didn't take him seriously. I have a question for all of y'all about Ryan. We reported on that. We didn't take him serious at all.

And then hearing that, I was like. We got changed his name. Damn, sorry. When he came, when he went, I always thought that Rob was the one that got it jumping. Because Rob won his money wherever he said, you know, give me my fucking money or else. And then he went and told, is that really true that Ryan is the one that got the shit. No.

Cassie got to jump in. Rod happened in January. Cassie happened like three months earlier. Oh, okay. And then everybody looked at Rod, like, oh, you saw what happened. You started. Okay, okay. But there was like 100 more.

Yeah. I definitely think they was fucking, though, Puffy and Rod, for sure. I think he hit that. I don't know. I can't speak to that. Personal opinion. What I took from it is that Puffy is a shitty businessman on the side of paying people. Yeah.

And I think a bunch of these people have been working with him for a long time. Good. No. fish. And I just think a lot of them niggas, I think a lot of them niggas is mad. I think bitter. You can hear the anger in some of their voices

as they talk about what he did to them in business. You know what I'm saying? And so I think that it was almost like, all right, this is my time to get back. Yeah. The ride story did come off like a love story. Yes, it did. They were, I'm not taking nothing away from him.

His claims are wishing the best, but it just gave, they go together a little bit. Like they went together. The shit that really got me, was when they were talking about big funeral I never heard that before. Yeah. Some people have come out to say some of that was

not true. Somebody didn't come out and say it wasn't true. But, I mean, just seeing it in that moment, seeing the way he was presenting himself and then hearing the other things by it was like, who really are you? What part of that disturbed you the most?

The money part of it? The whole shit. Like just seeing... Big playing for his own funeral, I think. That's what I'm saying? That part. That would be fucked up. Yeah.

Yes, that will be very fucked up. Yes. Yes. I went on record saying that I'm going to pay for this. I'm going to have... And then when I see the expenses start piling up, because I'm trying to do this shit big, no pun intended. And now it's too much.

And I'm like, I ain't paying for that. You're not saying it's fucked up to not pay for it. You're saying it's fucked up to say you're going to do it and not do it. No, it's fucked up to say, we're going to do this bigger than anybody's ever seen. I want the biggest thing. We're going to stroll big through Manhattan, I, Brooklyn, whatever. And then when you start seeing the expenses pile up, you say, y'all, I want them to do it, that shit.

he got to pay for it. That's some bullshit. But I'm saying if that hadn't had, I'm just a curiosity I had when I was watching it, if he had instead all that, and they just did a normal funeral, and he paid for it at a big estate instead of his own pocket, would that be fucked up?

Yes. For me, yes. Especially when I feel like Puffy, with one thing, bad businessman or not, the nigga got a vision. He knew what he was about to do after that nigga died as far as all the song, missing you to big.

He knew he was going to go hard on the death part. That was a no, he knew. And I feel like Puffy wanted that rap thing, and I think with Biggie going, he knew he could rap a little more. Like, you know what I mean? I could be the rapper. So I was like, yeah.

So if you know that, the least you could do is pay for the fucking funeral and look out for the kids. Like, what the fuck? Is this your man or not? Is that your friend or not? Like, did some, is it confirmed that that wasn't true? Hard to say this point. It sounds like a both sides. I think that's hard for me, bro.

Why the person spoke out, he said he was speaking on behalf of Viola Wallace. Yeah. Estate and everything and said that is 100% not true. That big he paid for his own funeral. Yes. That did not happen. Now, a lot of people who said. You could go further down that rabbit hole if you want and say,

yes. Is it possible somebody said, yo, my man, I need you to say this and clear this. Right. We don't know. Because she's gone. Exactly. Yeah, and there's been other allegations of stories changing from that side

after some other agreements were made. I don't know what's true or not. I'm going to give a fuck if it's true or not. If any two things in this four-part thing is true, then, wow. I think Puff is a monster. regardless, by the way. I do it.

Nothing that comes across as he's a good dude. Like some of that footage there with him and his son saying, yo, we need to call such and such and have her do this. Like, some of that shit was hard to watch, bro. The Orbio Day shit was riveting. Yeah. Orbio Day, am I saying the name right? Yeah, I believe so.

Orviot Day, episode four, having to listen to somebody, tell her for certain what was happening with her because she was passed out and blacked out and don't remember any of it. who also doesn't drink, she said. Yeah, no. That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. You know what was fucking shocking to me

because growing up as a puppy fan and, you know, being a person, you know, separating the artist from the person, I just wanted to assume that that happened to him from the money and it happens to him Hollywood. Nah, he was just fucked. Like, you know what I mean? From the gate.

I think it's the combo. Like it got worse? That's what I thought made the storytelling so good. It's like, okay, he's born into this really unusual situation. In some ways, privilege, in some ways really fucked up. a lot of trauma.

And then you add on to that, this whole world that almost no one in the history of the world has ever experienced. That's a hell of a combo. Because even the guy said, there was that moment where he felt to switch golf for who Puffy became.

And he was like, oh, that was the last time I saw the Puffy I grew up with. So I think it's both. I think it's like trauma mixed with power that just turned you into somebody else. They did a really good job. Because even when they started

showing like video music box, they showed the nerdy kid dancing on the steps. That was just thirsty as hell trying to get into the industry. by any means. And then they showed this transition of him now being a party promoter, being the hottest party promoter, and then transitioning to Andre Harrell's assistant. And, like, I think they just did a really good job of telling the story of who he was and who he

became. But, nigga, we was outside. Like, bro, it's hard to find somebody that was as popular as puff in the late 90s, early 2000s, bro. We're talking about pre-social media. So you still could maintain a level of mystery and mystique. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, dog, them niggas was just something that we've I think Russell Simmons kind of passed the torch to puff.

Right? I'm going to jump over, Andre Hoerole. No disrespect intended. No disrespect intended, but I just think that Puffy took black music somewhere that we haven't seen it go, especially as far as the money goes. My sampling and stealing. Well, that was the other thing. I mean,

I mean, they said it explicitly at times. He's like, He's not that talented. He's not. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that's what they said. I actually think he is talented. I think he was talented. But back then they would say that.

Back then, a lot of people didn't like the fact that that's all he did was sample shit. People, you know, saying that about him. And back then, niggas. And back then, people didn't like when he was running around doing the biggie shit. People said that shit back then. I was a wealthy fan. I remember people would say, like, he was exploiting him. And it was questioned what he did for the family.

But I think it's, I always am skeptical of those narratives of like almost like anybody could have done this. They couldn't. And it's like they could not. It's a unique person, a unique talent to do what he did. Bro, Puff's ear for music alone is unique. Right. Finding talent, talented people with a talent. That is a talent.

And developing them. But having producers in the room, other producers in the room, every single time you produce it, and then we already know that he would take things from you. So it's like to assume that maybe the good ideas came from the nigger he sat with and he just put his name on that. If I'm the conductor and y'all are the orchestra, I'm still, I might not, I ain't got to be able to play a single instrument,

but I'm the one that's arranging and doing all this shit that's making it all come together. Right, and I get that. That is a talent, everybody can't do that. Right, I get that. But that guy being also the guy that comes in your office with a bat and say, sign off your son over your fucking stock. Like, to me, it's just like, how the fuck do we know what he added into it? Who the fuck he found?

I mean, it's a good point. That's all I'm saying. Let me ask you this. And I'm a puffy thing to die hard back in the day. The hitman was the hitman. Did any of them Kind of has a different Yeah

It has a different ring to it Damn, Where the fuck is StevieJ? My point is this All of those niggas was talented Where did they go on to What did they go on to?

When you take me out of the studio now If I'm still the genius nigga Like I think Kanye West is a genius I think Kanye West could create music With some fucking bongos And some coke Like I just think he a genius And so I think that when you take him

away from whomever that might have been staring the ship, I think his genius is going to still just be there. I mean, Stevie J has some hits. Yes, he did. Outside of the hitman. All of the hitman. All of them. That's what I'm saying.

D. Dod, Chuckie Booker. Limmigas was dope. They all had the talent. He was very talented. But Puff did have a unique thing. I think that's the point. I think in the docs in time they underplayed how that skill says. Because he was like, oh, he couldn't rap.

No, he can't. But there's things he can do that nobody else can do. Exactly. The dog was the first time I heard somebody say, yo, Puff ain't do drugs. Puff was never in the drugs Right Yeah, as he cut

Yeah That even got him hooked on the own Painkillers and shit That was wild After he what? The shit with his wrist It was like they couldn't tell If it was an attempt or

Whatever but The doctor, he got hooked on painkillers After that Okay And then that's where it just Damn I don't know I mean

Don't worry if I write rhymes I write checks So your final thoughts on On this I give it an A Me too great doctor. I want to watch it again.

I'm going to watch it again. I have to watch it again. I have to watch it again. I watch it by my wife, so I could watch it before this. So I'm going to watch it again. And I was dreading having to watch it again, the idea of it until I started watching it.

Then I was like, oh, I need to see this again to actually catch some of the other little small. All the stuff. After we're 50 cents. Even, hold up, I'm sorry, Mark. Even, y'all talking about when they jumped homeboy at the MGM in Vegas, I've heard that story 90 million times. I ain't heard it like this.

Me too. That's right. I heard it like this. Me too. Never heard it like this. Yeah, I take back about it being the same thing. It was a lot of new shit in there for me. But I didn't necessarily keep it whatever.

They specifically walked you through. This is the man that did this. This is the man's relationship with this person who was Puff's dad's friend. They did it. You didn't hear that. You never heard that? Never heard that? So I've seen all the Pock stuff because we were doing some research on it.

So I've seen everything that's been done. but I've never seen it. Every doc had a little thing that was interesting, but what I think this one did was they put all the pieces together in one place. In a very clean narrative. So you could connect the dots in a way that you couldn't before. That's what I thought made it good. Like,

I've never seen the dots connected in this way. It made the, because the whole was greater than the sum of his parts. Like even though we knew all those things, when you tell a story like that, it's making a case that wasn't made before. Or you're making a timeline for the, like I never heard the shit with him before on the mix tape saying, y'all, I put a million dollars on your head.

Oh, yeah. That was new to me. I had never heard that piece. You know what I'm saying? The dude, the crypt dude, D1 or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had never heard that. I heard all the Keefee D shit.

I heard all the Orlando shit. I heard all of that before. Well, then you agree what I'm saying? Because he played a role in the MGM shit that I'm talking about. Not the D1 thing. It's Shade he knew 97% of that stuff. Yeah, the D1 nigga, that story when he was like, yo, I told them niggas when I walked up on big and they was in L.A.

Like, yo, fan, what the fuck? y'all doing here. Niggas out here don't play like that. Even if y'all with me, y'all under my protection, y'all, y'all still bugging the fuck out. Like, I had never heard him. And he, to me, was the most credible nigger up there. That D1 dude seemed like he was the most credible nigga out of me. So I'm thinking about somebody. So I'm thinking about somebody's dead. No, no, no, that dude.

Yeah, I kind of agree with that. In terms of the validity. Yeah, like, he was the one, because he didn't really have no personal vendetta against Puff. Yeah, everyone else had a little bit of accident. Everybody else was like, yo, this nigga ain't paying me. Like, I'm tight. I'll say whatever. the fuck you want me to say. Correct. That dude right there was like,

yo, we was cool, then was my niggas, and I walked up to the nigger like, yo, y'all niggas out. Niggas out here don't play like that. I don't know that part about Big. Palm Ears. The other half of the dirty money.

Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. I didn't know that. Me either. And she didn't, she was one of the people they showed where she loved him. She loved him.

She loved him. And she was valid. And still loves him. Still loves him. Yes. And just in a very hurt Way was saying, this is funny. A few months ago, I needed him. I needed you. I asked you for $5,000

or some shit. And he told me no. So to watch him kind of beg in that moment of desperation, there was a lot of little, even if we're not even talking about facts and storytelling. If you just watch closely enough, you'll see some things that maybe. That that nigga was a piece of shit.

And he was a selfish motherfucker. I think up until the last minute, like if you watch this shit when he's talking to his lawyer, like he, on the phone with the lawyer, he never believed that this shit was happening. It almost seemed like, yo, I got out of everything that's ever,

I was always managing to find a way to get away with this shit. I don't think he took it serious. I don't think I'm not comfortable with him. I ain't necessarily interpreted like that. Even hearing Shorty talk, that, she was valid. The girl, Capricorn.

Okay. She was valid to me because they didn't necessarily just rip them down. They told good shit and they told bad shit. And I think that those three people for me really painted a different story than the rest of the people like the girl. She loved that girl.

The other half of dirty money. I forgot something with a cat. Kalina. All right. She was like, fan, I love you, dog. Like, I've known you for a decade. I'm losing my kids. I asked you for five grand.

And you said no. And then she turned around and still did it. Still did it. She turned around and still wrote that letter in his defense. And that's what I was going to say. Bro, you can hear him even when he was talking to the ride kid. Puff can talk. Bro, he can talk.

Because he wanted to say to the ride kid like, yo, my nigga, stop threatening me on the phone. But he wasn't even saying it like that. He was like, yo, bro, you're taking it somewhere. I don't got to go. I know your lawyer's got to do whatever. I'm going to pay you. My nigga, like, be cool.

I'm going through some shit. I'm going to give you your money. But you threatening me on the phone. Somebody else would be like, nigga, what are you going to do? He didn't do that. He's like, yo, bro, we family, bro. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

I could tell that he could talk. Superman-deal-in-law. That nigga could talk his way out of fucking anything. I can hear it. That nigga was... For shit, he's been doing it forever. Yeah. Do you all believe that he sent flowers to 50 cents?

No, I don't think so. I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised. Got it. What do you think? I wouldn't be shocked. He probably did. I wouldn't be surprised.

Probably haven't sent over there. Speaking of 50, that's what I was asking. If 50 posted on Twitter afterward, obviously he was celebrating the success of it, but he said, what other people would you all? want me to cover. Is there another doc like this y'all want to see from somebody else? Doesn't, that's not necessarily from him but done this way.

Yeah. I can't tell you, although. It's one. Funny to this is, a lot of this shit I was watching in the puff, Doc made me think of this other person that. Who? Something of the shit. I'm not going to be.

Okay, is anybody we can say on the show? No, we wouldn't do that. That would be irresponsible. And we don't want to go through what Milagra just went through. I'm keeping my 59,000. I don't give a buck. I'm keeping my shit. Let me think.

Let me think, let me think, though. That's interesting. Then you can't answer it without being a rat. Yeah. I think you can because I think there's some things

that are just so public that you just want more info. Like, for example, Death Row Records. Or Shugnike. I thought Shugnight. I would want to see a four-part doc on that. I mean, he's already in jail.

I'm not trying to get more. I want to see that type of big budget shit about bullshit. Like Adam 22. Oh, shit. I want to see that in plain. podcast. Let me shut up because I got the most

info out of here. That's funny. I think the doc was well put together so it don't necessarily have to be something negative. If it's something informative, yeah, I would love it.

But the negative shit I could do it out. Anybody, you want to see one on in particular? Nah, not off the top of my head. Cool. And there you have it. Good talk.

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Brandy and Beyonce, there's a lot of talk about Beyonce going to the Boy's Mind concert and not speaking to Brandy. I only know about this because of Ray J. I feel like Ray J has been in the news entirely too much in the last three to four weeks. But fuck it, we hear. I never thought about this before, Brandy and Beyonce

not speaking to each other. Do we have any reason to think of it being other than Ray J saying? Like, so for those that don't know, y'all saw the Ray J. Vida, right? When he's, like, pleading to Beyonce. Mm-hmm.

Like, we love y'all, respect you and Jay. Why don't y'all come? When y'all come to all these shows, why don't y'all come and speak to us? Don't just speak to Monica kind of thing. I'm like, oh, was it an us thing?

Yeah, he definitely said us. Because my whole thought was, hey, Ray Jett, maybe this isn't about Beyonce, Brandi at all. Is you? Maybe what you're doing right now might be the reason why they don't stop.

I mean, Monica took his phone in the middle of the show. the night. Why? That was hilarious because all the bullshit starts from Ray J. having a phone. So he was at the show, Monica saw him, said, give me that phone playfully, of course, she gave it back, but I feel Monica. And you, Monica, no, now.

But Monica, no. I can't say how she knows, but Monica, no. So, like, maybe they're in a beef. Yeah, I don't think so. I just might be moving through the stadium, not stopping. I'm, all. Hold on now. Stop it, stop it, stopping, stop.

It's her show. It's Brandy Monica. The boy is mine tour. I'm here to see my sister Kelly. Okay. Okay. Now we're about to get in the show etiquette. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

You know what this is. And you stopped and saw, you stopped and saw her. You stopped and saw everybody that was backstage. I ain't hear him say that. Every single person? Beyonce has some pictures with Ponce. So now it looks like...

Something going on. I saw anybody but you. you. And if you think hard enough, I mean, the big, big celebs don't never say. But if you think about them hard enough, the people that they're never associated with, any of the people that's even associated with the people, if they're never associated with them, I assume there's something's going on. And I ain't seen Brandy, I mean, I, I ain't seen Brandy and Beyonce. And nothing. In anything for over 20 years. 30 years. It's a good point. I hadn't thought about it until this. Same.

Same. And I mean, I heard Lauren from the Breakfast Club say that she did some digging to find out if this is true, if this was not true. And she says it's true. I'm getting this from her. So if it's wrong, kill her. But she also says that she hears some of the reasoning behind it is just them both coming up in the music business being those girls. Brandy was the girl. Then Beyonce came and we know how that story went.

So, gee, I got a little bit of, I don't fuck with you. And then once you don't fuck with something. and then they skyrocket? Or the other way. You don't fuck with somebody and you skyrocket. But it depends. Did you do something during that?

I don't fuck what you face. You get what I'm saying? Like if it's just, you over there, I'm over here, that's one thing. But if this person's skyrocketing and you throw in some shade, you might deny something

or you try to use whatever influence you had. Like, you know what I'm saying? If you do something. It's not publicly throwing shade at nobody. I'm not saying nothing about publicly. I'm saying nothing about publicly. I'm just saying we would never know. True.

We would have. Because I'm just like this many years later, something had to have happened. It ain't just we were both on the rise. Either one of us was higher than the other and hated on the other one in some way. Something had to have just happened. It ain't just we both. If I'm just talking shit, which I do for you? Of course.

Well, Brandy was on scorching hot way before Beyonce. Yeah, yeah. And Brandy come from that Whitney school. of, you know. She comes from that. Whitney, who's the other one? The older one. Mariah Gary?

No, no. Who's Whitney's fucking old Jeep? Anyway, she comes from that world. Yeah, all that diva time. Get this fucking talent on this bitch away from me. I'm not saying Brandy said that. But I can see a world where if you brandy during the I want to be down,

it's 96 Moesha. Yeah, who's who? Destiny who? I was, I was, I just, disagree with you, Ice, I think that it could just be a come-up thing just because women are always pitched against each other. So even if you don't have an issue with her,

it's going to be an article about it, it's going to be on MTV, T. Jams, it's going to be, it's always alluded to. So I think it's very hard not to fall into that shit. And then I don't even know if I would say the fans, because without social media, I don't know how much impact the fans have on those kind of situations. But for sure, media, when you back then, you're doing a lineup of

interviews all day, and people keep constantly saying shit. Okay, but then what better way to put that to bed? If I'm at your show, I know what people are saying. Right, but that's... And there's never been no thing between us. But that's what I'm saying. I think what I'm saying is that... I'm on top of the moon.

Ain't nothing going to bed. No, or... No, I'm not weird. What I'm saying is that the damage is done then, and now we don't fuck with each other. Nothing happened, but we're too far going because we was always pitched against each other. That's what I'm saying.

So we don't speak now because of the buildup before. A small comment in an interview? Yeah. Who? It may be some credence to that. It could be. It could be something. Because they put Beyonce against everybody.

It was a Shanty issue, Kerry Hilsson. Like, I remember the Kerry Hilsen. She was a big woman in the world. They had tried to compete with her at one point in another. Help me think through this, though. So if there was an issue, Brandy and Beyonce would know about it. Sure. It's unlikely that one would know and the other one wouldn't, right?

Sure. So if Brandy knows about it, then Ray J would know about. Is it a world where Brandi has a beef of Beyonce that Ray J. They don't know about? Yes. See, I don't see that. I don't see that. That's her best friend.

No, it depends on how big the beef is, one. And Brandy might not have been just out here publicizing the beef. That could be Ray J. He's talking about talking to Ray J. Your brother. Thanksgiving. Not publicizing anything. Ray J.

would know. Ray J knows. And Ray J. No. There was a third step to that. So if Ray J knows, then why would Ray J. publicize it? Because he seems sincere, even though he's doing Ray J's...

Repeat that question. Ten times. I got you. Let me say. different. He seemed befuddled. Yeah, like I really,

why ain't y'all fucking, like he seems sincerely like I love y'all, we, we, he said we, he kept using the we. I feel like if he, if his sister had a beef with Beyonce, he wouldn't be up there saying, we love you, why aren't you speaking to his act unless that was all around? If Beyonce was A.

He wouldn't have been talking like that. He talked, he spoke like that out of respect. But what he also was saying was some of the same things that he was saying to Mario, which is we to know it would, we ain't chump. Like, you know us. Come speak to us. know you, we came up, you know, and you're at this show. And that's some of the difficulty

with having Kelly Rowland on your show. I'm not going to lie to you. That is some of the difficulty. Open things up a little bit. I said, I said that when I came in here after I watched the show, I said, Kelly Rowland with all of those records and how she was looking and how she was dressed and I totally didn't even think about her network of people coming to this show. And I'm the headliner. No, no, you're not going to have Sammy Davis. Jr. Backstage. He don't take a picture with me.

You got fucking, you got Shelby Wonder's here. All Obamas. No, no. That ain't going to be happening and none of them is talking to me. I'm going to feel away. You're going to feel away.

That's valid. You're going to feel away, dog. Yeah, you are. They're taking pictures with Patty LaBelle, Beyonce, Brandy, and no, I want to be included. I mean, not Brandy. If I'm Brandy, I want to be included in that.

Yep. I do. You want to be down? Ah, see what you did. Yeah, I did. She might just been sitting up in her room, though. Missed the picture. And Beyonce's not her best friend.

Y'all should keep this going. It's grow, breaking stuff. But this shit has left Ray J. Broke Hornet. Let's go. Panetta, you took mine. We're running out of titles, people. DeMona, if you go do your show in Tacoma, Washington this weekend, if you ain't got tickets.

Sevens. If you go do your show and one of the opening comedians is tight with Chappelle and them. And Chappelle come in, smoke a sig, talk to everybody backstage, take pictures to everybody but Demona. Oh, my God. That's a problem. I'm with her, though. It's a problem. You take a disrespect.

You take a disrespect. You're gonna find you at SOB. Yeah. Yeah. The other office space over there. Yeah, that's crazy. When you think about it in that way, that's crazy. Especially because, you're talking about R&B,

she had the top of it. Dave Schelley's the top of comedy. You were in, you would want to... I mean, I was just polite to say, what's up? And the video looks shady. The video looked security dudes saying, Make Wave! Make Wave, Brandi coming through.

I never seen Beyonce move so fast. Get in the cutting hide. Now, I'm not saying that that's, she was hiding. She could have just been listening to the security and moving out the way. Being polite. Fair. Fair.

I agree with you, Freeze. Okay. Beyonce's listening to the security moving out the way. She might be polite, freeze. I know she's compliant. I'm shutting up with somebody.

What fuck are we talking about? Yeah, y'all sleeping on the phone. I know she's polite. She's very polite. I see what happened when Beyonce walked down the hallway. I've seen it. What happened? What happens?

What happens when Beyonce was down? They clear the whole shit out. Everybody, yo, Beyonce's coming. What you do? move. They. What do you mean they? Was you in the hallway? Yeah, until they said, yo, all your move. Beyonce is walking, everybody

moved. And you moved? You got damn right. Julie, it's big as shit. Freeze. Nigger, they got a fucking private militia walking them down there. Yeah, we all moved. All right, but how fast did you move? Just like that, nigga. Did you take your time at least? He scurried. Everybody got their ass out of the way.

Everybody got got their ass out of the way. They got a fucking, that little Russian militia dude. And I just feel like they would have featured together on some type of song somewhere. It makes too much sense. It's possible. I'd be needed to know what people beef or beef is about, though, before I jump in and pick a side. I need to know what to be.

I love your. When I love both of y'all too much, I need to hear the particulars on the matter. Recently, I forgot maybe it was TMZ. Somebody came out and was like, we finally found out the reason behind the Salon's kick Jay-Z in the elevator. And that's because he was flirting with whatever the girl was in the middle. that, wherever they was at. And I'm like, okay, well, then that was overblown. This is the real reason.

That's what happened. Well, we still got two classic albums, but now they don't hit the same. Yeah. If that's the reason, we got to jump on. Oh, he's eliminated in the carters, right? That's probably the most, that's probably the most. Oh, that was, that was ill. Yeah.

What? You got to let that go, bro. He got two classic albums? It's the worst take. It's one of your worst takes. He has a lot of bad What's one of his worst days? He doesn't like 4-4-4.

I don't love that album either. I don't like 4-44-ne either. We ain't got to do it. We beat it in-Ithold. What did you do for Jay-Z's birthday the other day? You know he did. He'll celebrate Jay-Z birthday before his.

Yeah, that's why I'm asking him. What did you do? What did you do? You did somebody or something? The fact that y'all know it was his birthday speaks more about y'all than me. He has a song. So you didn't know.

You didn't know. You did not know that December 4th was Jayze's birthday. He has a song. Yeah. but I'm not thinking about it on December 4th If y'all didn't say that to me It's not in your calendar? I mean the song starts with his mom saying

December 4th Sean Carter was born December 4th Yeah what did you do on the 4th though Don't interrogate us Don't reverse our joke You ain't got a little 92 on you You ain't got a little 92 right What is a 92 for? He wouldn't got the

sneakers 92 bricks You know just just in on a hole Oh shit Y'all niggas is I tell him, age so fans Vietnam two briggs things going. Oh my God, stop it, Joe. That would be their end-dard friendship,

I would send him up. I would send him back. Hey, yo, if you have it, don't tell me. He's the guy. I'm telling you, don't it, but if you have it, don't tell me. Even playing about snitching. It's a snitch guy. He's crazy.

He ain't even in trouble, right? Nobody in this corner would rat. This whole corner is not telling. I ain't right. Wait, where's the, where's the end? I thought she was open without I call a cop tape, Rob. I'm not, no, right? I'm not doing shit with y'all.

That's going to get involved in that bullshit. You're going to avoid it so you don't have to tell you don't know shit. But we're in the car and I say y'all got 92 in the trunk. You have a problem. You better tell them about your 92. You don't just get out the car. I'm not, that is what would happen, truthfully. In real life.

I'm not getting that car. If somebody else tell me, it's bought 92 brick. He ain't even got to be the one. If I hear it, if you just hear it. You're gone, I'm telling you. You better keep it claim. That is crazy, bro. But they're not even questioning them.

Live the straight and narrow. He's doing this Live straight now The love of the game This is crazy Put it into this bro man That is crazy Now y'all got to argue over jail

15 minute calls You was looking at the Toray kid With admiration I was looking at who? You got to talk I'm cool Who I was looking at? My man I was

What's his name? Toray The dude that's writing a report The sport reporter Pablo Pablo Pablo Because there is a Torre.

Not that Torre. He got smoked with Pablo. Oh, yeah, yeah. I get it. His was a feeling that shit. That's tight. He's like that shit. Wait, are we serious?

You could tell when it was happening, but I got to really see because I was over there. I'm like, oh, Ish was tired like this thing. He was mad at this shit. He sat up like, so when you think about them possibly going away or something, do you? I'm like, no, he don't give a fuck. He doesn't care. He just called him a snitch just now. He just called him a rap bastard.

I didn't like that. I wasn't. I'm gonna say that, but yeah. He did. No, he did. He said, okay, I won't go to say. But why you take that approach like you still gangbanging or in the street? It's not the point.

That's not the point. That's nothing to do with that. He's standing on principle. Yo, dog, you come. That's what you're supposed to do with him. No, no, no, no. This don't have nothing to do. It's street shit.

Bring it down. Somebody's doing something. With your tea. That don't affect you. Somebody doing something that don't affect you. Don't have no bearing on your life, none of that. And you, you. start a crusade to bring that person down,

I think that's corny. See, that's what we differ at just a little bit. And I told Mark this. I think Duel got a call from another one of them that's sicked on them. Which is the type of games that they play amongst each other. He was the weapon. Yo, yo.

Is it changing? Just in case the audience missed it. Just against the audience missed it. We're talking about Pablo Torrey's interview here where he did an investigative journalism project investigating the LA Clippers, allegedly colored outside the lines. and getting Kawhi Leonard

on stuff outside the salary cap. I got to go watch it again now that y'all was saying Ish hated. Oh no, he ain't like that. I'm pretty sure Erickson didn't put his face on camera. When you're sitting in it, when you're sitting there, I don't think you can catch it,

but being over there and you can see it. Oh, well. You got to look at it. It's hard not to look at it. No, not for me. Okay. You know, not for me. Beauty's beauty, man.

You know what I mean? It's universal. It's a monopoly game. Thank you, my sister. You're welcome. Now your sisters. We've been to. Thanks, my sister.

Yo, y'all go too hard. Last week, somebody said, we were saying something. That's woman to woman. That was you. Talking about when we talk, woman to woman, y'all are crazy. No, that was funny. Let's stay in beef land.

Let's stay in beef land. Who else is beefing? Who else is beefing? Snoop and Dad? We got Dads and Snoop. Oh, this Evergreen. Yeah. Every couple months,

Das comes out with another, well, with the same beef, over and over. he claiming Snoop bought Def Row and owes him a bunch of money This is just an ongoing thing Like I don't understand it from Dad's point of view Just because

Snoop bought Def Row and I think it was 22 I'm not mistaken First thing they did was A Dog Pound album Right Did an East Side of his album Like did things

Went back to the people who Founded Yeah been in from the rip got y'all touring the whole shit and you're you're beefing with him like i don't understand that it looks like somebody tried to help you out but you might have been you might have did that out of desperation okay that's like that's also sued death row prior to snoop getting him i'm just addressing your original thing so it's like somebody saying i remember when Puff

and them did the reunion tour. Mace was on the reunion tour. Right. But that didn't negate the fact that Puff owed Mace money. Well, there's one piece there. Puff owned bad boy from the 90s.

So you're beefing over your back catalog money that you owe that Snoop did not own that label. We're not talking about that. I'm just saying that that's, I'm talking about the principle of you complaining, but you still went on tour with this man.

So the two things can be true Somebody might have needed the money Or they went on tour for whatever reason That don't mean or negate the fact That they might still be owed some proceeds Yeah I agree Correct

But again I'm speaking to Wasn't the Dawn chick on Puff's love album? Yeah Yeah Shit money gets funny boy You know what I'm saying And that's what he was saying

Like yo dog you just was on my album Now magically we And I might have been on with some financial shit You never know what's going on out here niggas don't be bad I agree with that I just, this is a little different. Again, like I said,

Das' beef, I've been reading into this, is old shit that he's old, which was prior to Snoop owning death row. It's like your beef, I don't get how you do it's still transferred. Yeah, but if you buy a company, that's not how business works. Yeah, if you buy a company,

you inherit all of the debt as well as the revenues to that particular company. Because who else is he going to go to? You know what I mean? The nigg's going, chugs waiting on breakfast. Nika, when Netflix just bought HBO, they incurred HBO's assets as well as they debts. It don't go away because you got acquired by somebody. Understandable.

Without saying too much, I spoke to some folks and... You know, ICE is Deaf, I know. That's true. We forgot. Say what you want. Ice is Defere. I am not Def Ro. You played that sexy Red Snoop record and gave it away.

That's when we learned Ice was dead, though. He ain't listed it. listening to this song. I knew that before. I still like that song. That's why I think. Yeah, I heard it in the club. So anyway, um, yes. Went back to Deco, shut up. Yeah. Go back to club deco to hear

a little something. What? I think he was saying shit. I heard it in the club. I did. You scurried. You scurried when Beyonce was coming you. I'm on a new joke, nigga. I'm on, I'm off there. You scurried when Beyonce walked down the hallway. I mean, I wouldn't have been there.

You actually, you was outside in the car Oh, sleep Yeah, sleep You was outside sleep in the car That's when all y'all was dick riding them, niggas. Y'all go ahead, I'll be, I'll be sleeping That's when they was dick riding Beyond saying, oh, who, who, who, who, where we going next?

Where were we going to A-O? Where was y'all? I'm in the bourbon, my nigger. Where was y'all at, ice? Where was y'all at? It was some spot uptown. It was like a little speakeasy. It was a piece of joint in the front

with a door that opened and took it to a club. Okay. So everybody's lined up in the hallway going into the club part in the back. And then they just came up, yo, Beyonce and Hoves walking in,

everybody got to move. Yeah. And it was like 15, 20 people, a little skinny hallway. It was like, yo, Beyonce and Hove is walking in. Clear this shit up. Hey, guess where Joe was that? Sweet.

Yeah, cool. Knocked out. Give a fuck about this glove shit, nigger. Get me out of here. Tired. You're checking autograph? No.

I got my Hove autograph years ago. No, we're talking about Beyonce. No. You got a Beyonce autograph? You have a Hove autograph? Mm-hmm. What are you sons? I was Stefan Marbury jersey, actually.

Why your mouth open like that? Whole-a-borderly. Your first thing I thought was like, when niggas get them, do y'all walk around with the sharp beat? Like, if you know you're going to catch the person? No. What's the real first thing you thought? Shut up.

Mona. ICE has an autograph book. Mona. What do you mean? He has a book. I don't have an autograph. I don't have an autograph. He got Harry Potter.

He got Harry Potter. I don't have an autograph. You have a scrapbook. No, I don't have a scrapbook. It's nothing wrong with the... Where's your order? I had a Marbury jersey because we were in the next game. We was in the back.

This ain't helping. You should have to... You should have to... Oh, my God. Well, keep talking about it. Please tell it. You have it. No, no, no, no.

Yes, he did. Let me tell you. I'll talk to you because these niggins are immature. Go ahead, yeah. Chris Gatlin's father took a couple of us to the game. Okay. He dropped a name. What?

He worked at. He was the vice president at our high school. Okay. And he took a couple of kids to the school, to the game. Back when it was playing,

back when the Nets played in the medal lands. We're there. He was like, yo, we take y'all in the back. So I bought a Marbury jersey because I wanted to get Marbury to sign it.

And then while, and then Hovis walking by it. I'm like, oh shit, yo sign this two, please. He signed it. I don't let nobody take me in the back. Okay. You're just doing too much.

Yeah, you do yours right out in the public. You're doing too much. That's right. But where do you have that order to grab about that? Wow. Did he sign Jay-Z or Sean Carter? Jay-Z. Okay.

He signed Jay-Z. All right. Wow. A couple of my people have my signature tattered on them. Oh, shit. Did you do it? In jail? Did you write it?

Shut up. They asked me, can you sign this for a tattoo and they got tattoos? Yeah. I'm saying, did you sign them and then they got a tattoo? Yeah. But to me and greet, I signed my name and then they went to the corner. Now, let me ask you, your signature is consistent? Oh, it's ugly as shit.

Is it consistent, though? But is it the same thing? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. You signed Domona? I just did hashtag this. I did what's on my arm. Hashtag the acronym.

You got your own signature on your own? No, nigger. I have my Instagram name. Parks. Wait what? Don't come to white girls too long. Wait. Are you okay?

You don't got your button tag on you? You just got the acronym? Hold on. So you just got D. I sure do. I got hashtag these. I don't like how hardcorey laughing. He only laughed this hard when we talk about hating God.

You got your Instagram name, tattoo? I tried to set this up for you earlier with the tattoos. I missed it earlier. Oh, with the pound sign. I used to be on a rotary phone. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck with these niggins think about my tattoo. I'm not mad.

I like it. Self-promotion. So you got your Philly. I just got that. I had to get it dark in. Yeah, because it was faded. I thought that was Hennah. Like you really went and put that

I sure did I thought you just had that same thought we all have I've seen a lot of your tattoos Joe So don't do that I've seen a lot of your tattoos My tattoos To me even look a fucking absolute mess I don't encourage anybody

I was gonna ask you are you in your post tattoo phase? Like you never go get another one? I don't got nothing No damn tattoo And he's tatted Joe's tattered You got a lot How about the rest of y'all? How about the rest of y'all? I didn't got nothing.

There's one place. This is a... I assumed you did. No tat's. I figured you didn't. There's one place. It's against my religion. There's still room left.

Parks, you know tats neither, me. No, no tats. And your body is a temple. I'm so curious about people that don't have tattoos. I just told you, the body is a temple. Oh, no. Ice couldn't get no tattoos and come in his house and come in his mama house?

Oh. Actually, the opposite, I would have been able to. Oh. My brother said, I didn't told you how I could do whatever I wanted. He couldn't. You didn't, don't. I didn't want any tattoos, you know?

There was nothing I loved enough that I wanted on me permanently. Why the fuck did you have any rules and your brother had rules? Because I was more trustworthy. You got different fathers. There's another word for that. Because the father, you like the moose. Yeah. Trust me.

The father that's being child support. You can get another fruit snack. Yo. You're an idiot, yo. Who mean? You get another fruit snack. I don't even want to get into it about the favorite every time I talk about that

people stiffing up because your parents have favorite kids. Some of y'all are the only kid and you still ain't the favorite. That's okay. I was a favorite. But parents had favorite. There's no way you got a couple of these motherfuckers and you don't like one of them a little more than other one. Especially if one always hollering and screaming acting stupid. It's like they ain't your favorite one.

He got in trouble all the time. He was always doing shit. Was he the favorite though? No, he's the favorite. Because my brother got in trouble he was the favorite. I was the favorite. I was the favorite. It's been around my family. I'm the favorite. You still the favorite. To this day.

Is you the favorite? He's the only, right? He's the only child, right? He's the only child, right? He's the only child, right? It's been a little while. Don't that, though. You're the favorite.

They gave you the Cherokee, right? It was Toyota. Ain't you the one that got the Grand Jeep Cherokee? They left it to you. Amen. Are you the favorite? My mom, when I ask it, because I asked, She says, I'm the favorite for six months

and he the favorite for six months. Oh, that's so fair. She tells her friends the truth. No, she don't. Yeah, she tells her brother the truth. Yeah. My mom don't play about her kids. My favorite.

Even if somebody tell her who the favorite is, she just slapped that shit right down. She don't play about her kids. She don't let me tell her who the favorite is. Believe you. Do you have a favorite? Do I have a favorite? Depends on the moment.

I do. Depends on the moment. You got a favorite? Fucking right. And they know it. I ain't ain't in hot. I need to aspire to be like him. Oh shit.

Yeah. Smush is my favorite, Joe. Rashad. What makes him the favorite? He's an individual. He's himself. He doesn't like rap music. He's like a little Republican.

He got that on his own. You know what I mean? He's very funny. He's witty. And he loves this shit out of me. He's the only boy? No. But he loves this shit out of me, though.

Does he always been your favorite? Because those are like personality traits. From the gate. The bar is in hell. He was funny from the door, though. He had a lot of personality from the door. Yeah. The door being...

Like from the beginning from the first came up. Oh, the door being his cat. That was funny part. Yeah, no, I have a favorite, though. It ain't a secret neither. You don't need to earn my love. Sounds. Mark, you have a favorite?

No. No. Cat. You know political. Mark got a favorite. He's a favorite. He got a favorite. He got a daddy.

Danny right here. That ain't got no, what? He got a favorite. He got a favorite. His name? No. No. No.

No. You have a favorite? I can't have a favorite. Only got one. That's biologically mine. Yeah, so you can't. Right. That's true.

You couldn't have a favorite. I can't. Or you could. Oh, you can't. No, you can't. You can't have a favorite. You cannot. I know.

I know. You can't have a favorite. I know. I know. I know. You can't have a favorite. I know. I know.

I know. That's where the joke stops. I know, and they know. That's a problem. Yeah. We're not. But yeah, I think people don't realize. Exactly.

Moving the fuck on. That's what. Exactly. She does that shit like Beyonce walking in here. Moving the phone. Look, ICE ain't fucking around. Boundaries. I respect that.

My kids be so bad sometimes. I'll be in the house like, man, I'm pretty cool. I'm my favorite. These two little motherfuckers A horror show That's how I feel I get a kick out of my kids though My kid's funny

Yeah I really don't have a favorite What I think about it I like different things about each one And it depends on the mood I'm in That's a good answer It's diplomatic It's not true It depends on the mood I'm Mark-ask

Yeah I don't have a least favorite I say that G thanks I think he does I don't have a least favorite Yeah Because I have such a different relationship to each one.

They didn't all grow up in the same house. They didn't all come around the same time. Oh, okay. That's what I said. So everyone is different. Oh, yeah. Like, I know my favorites are going to pay my bills. That nigga right there when he put that bullshit Huffington Post voice on.

How about she's talking about? No, you got the kind of voice you could do that, you could do like phone sex or you could do the tapes that just to go to sleep, like motivational tapes. To go to sleep? Whatever. People missing the motivation to take us to go to sleep, but he could do that, though. Like, you are the best.

I'm going to share some shit I shouldn't be sharing. So I'll just give a little bit. My girl said, and one of the times she went in my phone, I guess there was a time where there was some voice notes.

And your stupid ass, bitches love your voice. They, the heavy voice note they say, that's, ooh, your boy, and hear your goofy ass go, leaning into my, uh. What a nice voice, though.

Lean it in. With your dumb ass talk about to. You put the extra deep on it? Yeah, like a suck-ass singer. Lenny Green. And you know how to throw his voice. Oh, man. This voice.

I don't know of his music shit, but yeah. Oh, man. No, yeah. No. What else? What else we got? What else we got? I'm feeling bad for Chris Paul.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They did him dirty. That was nasty. That was nasty. Maybe. But.

But maybe? Yeah, maybe. But I feel, because I feel like there's more to the story. I'm hearing it's more to the story. And it's almost always more to the story. When some shit happens, it don't make sense. It's usually because you don't have enough information. That's my general rule of thumb in life.

But I still didn't like the way this wins. I don't. Well, what can you tell us about what you're hurt? Well, let me tell the audience the story first. Chris Paul was basically effectively waived from the LA Clippers in what was his farewell season. At like 4 a.m. On a road trip.

On a road trip. We saw, because he posted on social media, I was just told to stay home or I was sent home. Now, according to Bleacher report in some other places, you know, one of the big execs from the clippers did fly out to talk to him about it. But ultimately, he was told to not return to the team. This was his last season, and I think that's important.

Lawrence Frank. Lawrence Frank. Lawrence Frank said he'll take the blame for it, which means that it ain't him. Right. Exactly. He's taking the fall for it. Exactly.

Yeah. And they're saying that, you know, and I'd love to hear what you heard, but what they're also saying is, he was around and they're just trying to hold people accountable. Some of the players, some of the front office members. That's where I get confused a little bit because I don't know how much holding people accountable

I'd be doing in my retirement season. Yeah. That's who he is, bro. Yeah, I was going to say, that's him. That's who he is, bro. Yeah, but sometimes you don't want to hear that shit from someone who's not really that anymore. He's not that anymore.

But that's a problem. And you got to know when to not be what you are. Yeah. You have to know when to not be what you are. This is your last season. Okay. Okay. You requested, hey, I want to end it here with my Lob City history.

This is where I want to be. Go out there. Let us salute you. Let the crowd wave call it a day. Melanin? Especially as a team player. Like, you're a point guard. Like a notorious team player.

No, the point guard is the spokesman for the team that holds everybody accountable. Sometimes. That's your role. The starting point guard name. Wait, wait. What do you want him to do, though? Y'all sounds crazy. Yo, I don't have a chip.

I think that this team has enough talent for me to get to the chip, which they do. And y'all niggins out here? No, they don't. Yes, they do. No, they don't. You think the Los Angeles Clippers have enough talent? Yes.

Do you think they could get past the Nuggets? I mean, the Thunder? Yes. No, you don't. You think the L.A. Clippers can get past the Thunder. Pull up their record right now. Listen to what I'm saying. Before this flips into some stupid shit,

I think they have enough talent to potentially. beat any team in seven games if they all on the same page. Yeah, I don't see that. You can't name six players from the Clippers. Who can't name six players from the Clippers? Well, I'm not going to put you to the test, but what's the talent you see on the Clippers? Clippers are six and six.

Kauai is still Kauai. I think that he's not still Kauai, but he can get you 30 points on any night. Yeah, but just not every night. Not every night. Not every night, right? Yeah. I think, I think James Hardin is James Hardin. He's not.

And that's an old person. Listen to what I'm saying. I'm not saying he's going to get you 50. I think he still. good. They got arguably a top three center in the NBA arguably. So I think that they have enough talent with the role players and all of that stuff with those three guys

to win some games. Last year they was good. Last year toward the end of the season they started kicking ass. And I know the season just started their 13th place in the Westin. They're not a good team. They're going nowhere fast and the team that they traded SGA 2 has their

draft pick this year. So if you're that whole shit is a dumpster fire and a dumpster fuck right now. What I'm saying is, I'm not having to tell my argument. Look, that's what I'm saying. Based on, yeah, the organization is some bullshit. They have been bullshit for a decade. You come back here and you like, yo fam, I've been on teams.

Chris Paul took a team that was worse than the Clippers to the playoffs in OKC. That team wasn't shit. He took them niggas. I don't remember that team. He took them niggas to the playoffs. So he's looking at like, yo, fam, I've done more and got more out of less. y'all it's your effort it's your this it's y'all that and he feels like he can speak

to that based on I'm Chris Paul he's wrong that's a matter of opinion I don't think he's wrong I don't think so either they said it wrong yeah that's what else so you're saying the should

he should be able to do that yeah absolutely he should but I think you think he should I think if you're a legend and you're a vet you should be able to speak out even if you're not that person anymore when Gary Payton goes to Miami the year they won the championship in fact

he's still a vet and he's still Gary Payton. He should be able to say some shit. If you shack, I don't care if I'll give you to Cleveland Cavalier Shack. Boston Celtic Shack. Boston Celtic Shack. You should be able to talk some shit. I agree.

But, but. To a point. That's where I'm going. And Chris Paul, and I've been hearing this for over a decade. He's a dick, they said. I wasn't going to say that. They say he's a dick. But he wears on people.

I'll say that. Team teammates say that he wears on people. He's hard to get along with. He's hard to get along with. And so if you all, I remember Alan Iverson was late to practice. every day for his whole career. But when he came back to Philly at last time and he lost his first step, suddenly being late to practice was a bigger deal.

Now it means it. Because you're not, right. Chris Paul's always worn people, you know, worn on teammates, but now that you're not the guy that can give you 20 and 10 every night, they don't want to hear that shit. And I think from what I've heard from some players in the league this week is that there's a, there was a significant tension between him and Tyrone Lou that had grown over the course of the year.

And so Tyrone Lou didn't want him. back. Well, also what I'll say, maybe even unfairly, because I didn't get this from nowhere, but when the news broke, the first person I thought of with James Hardin. Yeah, I did too. Because you have a repeat teammate on your team that was with you in Houston where you also kind of got the shaft. So, that's not new.

For the last decade, they've been saying he's hard to get along with. He demands excellence. All the other shit, they was like, yo, like they're not even sure. when they started talking about the Laker trade, if him and Kobe would have but a butt head or if they would have just been thick as thieves because they both approached the game with this intensity that's insane.

Also with NBA teams, the bad one specifically, when they're losing, trust you and me that somebody in the front office is tasked with figuring out why they're losing the personnel, the plays, the coach. So if I'm in the middle of a losing season,

I'm not going nowhere. Pablo Tourier just outed my man. He can't even plant the trees no more. Fucking James Hardin is carrying this. Norman Powell is in Miami looking like every bit of that. Every bit of that dude. The last thing I want if I'm the front office is legendary Chris Paul coming back here, telling me all the ways that we're fucking up.

And then bringing that in the locker room telling that to some of the players fucking with the enthusiasm, the level of enthusiasm in everything. you need in there. Yeah, you don't want that. And you have to feel like the Clippers know who Chris Paul is. So they know the backlash that was going to happen.

They know that they was going to get killed for this and they did it anyway. So, I mean, I think you might be giving too much credit there. And I think you might be... Everything that's common sense for a team to know the Clippers seem to do the opposite. And I think you might be...

You might have it wrong. They might have bought him there to be the veteran spark on the team to motivate these niggas and hold them accountable. That's a possibility. I'm sure that's probably part of it. Because they go get veteran naked in the locker room.

You go get veteran people in your locker room to kind of corral the younger troops. But how many of them do you need if you got Coral Leonard and James Hart? He's not vocal. He not vocal. James Harden might not be the most vocal leader. And James Harden might not talk neither if it's a strip club in the city we're playing in. You know what I'm saying? So you got to get PJ Tucker those type of dudes to kind of corral the troops.

Right. I'm splitting this. On one hand, I think no matter what Chris Paul does. you don't do that to him. I feel like there's another way to do it. Say he's injured or something. You know what I mean? There's a better way to do that.

That's nasty. Time out. They might have tried to do that. He's the one that took it to Twitter. Well, like, they might have came out with an official report that he pulled a hammie. He's out for. But he wouldn't have gone to Twitter if they were working together to come up with something. Or not just that.

You'll tell me in the middle of the night, yo, your dogs, you send him you home? What's that way to even do that? It's a way to do that. Maybe the next day. Maybe we wait until we get back and we put you on injury. So you're saying that was spicy. That shit was nasty. It was all purpose though. It's supposed to be.

That shit was nasty. I still think there's some information missing. Well, it's definitely information. If I'm the front office, I might not even like his retirement announcement. I just think the front office, they're the only people that can look at this from a different point of view. And they might have had a bad taste from the jump or something. One thing that I'm excited about for Chris Paul is a chance for him to finish this season. He's going to finish this season.

He's going to finish it somewhere else. And I'm hoping he gets to finish to some place. Charlotte? But I just want to finish somewhere where he can play some meaningful basketball. When the last time you've seen a Hornet game? It's a mess. It's a, we just played them the other night. They got a bunch of dudes you can't name.

They got a bunch of 19-year-olds. And Lonzo Ball almost made eight threes and brought him back from a 20-point deficit. There's nothing else going on over there. I'd love to either see him be on a competitive environment for a playoff spot or a championship, go to an elite team and play just a couple minutes. or I'd like them to see a team like that where he's going to play a lot of minutes even if they're not going very far

but he can at least finish his career playing real basketball 25, 30 minutes a night. I'd like to see one of those two things. I'd hate to see him at the end of a bench on a team that's not going nowhere. I would want to say that I wouldn't mind seeing him in some type of backup role on the Knicks

but the very first time I see him talking to Jalen Brunton aggressively I'm getting him to fuck out of it. Right. I don't want to see that. So what do you think he goes? What do y'all think he goes? He goes.

To bed. No. Go to bed. No. Go to bed. I don't know why people have such a hard time going to bed. Chris Paul for me. No.

He got to finish up a season. Top 10 point guard of all time. One of the best point guards of his generation. I think he deserves a farewell tour. I think people thinking that they deserve shit is... I mean, I don't know if he thinks he deserves it. I just as a fan would even love to say goodbye to him. Chris Paul is now...

Chris Paul and the Clippers, unfortunately, now go down like the Denver Nugget Carmelow. And it's unfortunate. Yeah. It's a shame. But the Nuggets act like Carmelo Anthony didn't. He don't even exist. Yeah.

By the grace of God, thank God, he went to another team and had a run. He didn't win, but he had a run. And I'm so happy that the Knicks celebrate him like they're supposed to. I think he was more celebrated in New York. Maybe it's just because I live in New York. And is. And is currently to this day. I don't Chris Paul

Whatever team he goes to that that that history Unless it's the Pelicans Yeah And who the fuck wants to go over there right? Yeah I guess it would be the Pelicans Yeah Because there were the Hornets when Yeah

It's tricky because they did something They did something they're not supposed to do We'll just switch the Switch names, yeah Not just switch names but then they gave the franchise To the actual city versus the team Right He just need to go somewhere where again

And they should have did this on the Clippers Where when you run out there And they introduce him play or they put you in the game for whatever minute you play, just wave to the crowd, take a bow, put a fist up, and go back to doing what the fuck you was doing. Right. That ain't a bad idea.

That ain't a bad idea. And you can do that silently. But I think a lot of the tension was in practice and in the locker room afterwards. It's not like he's on the court saying you should have got on top of that screen. It's more like in practice. Like what the fuck are y'all doing? Yeah, I think he's still a competitor, yo.

Like some of that shit really be in people. And a coach. If I'm out here, I'm doing it. it's to the best of my ability, even if I'm not who I used to be. Even if it's to his detriment. But I would have to imagine. That's all I know. I would have to imagine. Maybe I'm wrong. There was

a conversation before the conversation. I'm sure at some point during this short part of the season that we're into, someone said, yeah, you can chill out a little bit, bro. You're not here for this. They wasn't looking. I don't think they just said, you know what fuck, get the fuck out of here. I agree. And it don't look like they were looking to do this

the smoothest way possible. They let them pack for a road trip. Yeah. I think something happened. I think something missed. The store that broke the camel's back happened on that road trip. And it was like, you know what? We're not even,

yo, you got to go. But the last piece of this for me is just outside of Chris Paul is just the clippers. So I have, there are a few franchises. And maybe this is why I don't have the same position on Pablo Torre as Ish does. Although, there's a lot of reasons why.

But the big one is because I don't have any sympathy for the clippers. Like, they're just such a poorly run team. Historically. Historically, I mean, from San Diego to L.A., I mean, honestly, Lob City is not. the one blip where they were competitive, and even then they weren't well run.

I think everything you're saying is super unfair, because these are not those clippers. We've seen this clipper, not this clippers, but a recent Clippers team beat the Lakers, have traction, have motion, win, have identity. They have a new owner, the richest owner in the universe. They just built a new arena. Like, everything about these clippers is the total opposite of your Lamar Odom. clippers. And I thought that too until the balmer thing happened, right?

And then it's like, oh, well, yeah, y'all got, you're calling outside, of course you got coaliters. What bomber thing? The plants? Yeah. I'm saying, I just feel like some clipper. That can't go into old clipper land, the plants? What I'm saying is, even that, even that, that's somebody, it's a scam, but is somebody being innovative trying to figure out how to get a star

player and keep them happy? That's not old clipper to me either. I mean, yeah, Clippers like. I guess what I'm saying is for me, the Clippers always... Will be a dysfunctional... Yes. No matter what. That's what I'm saying. And some of this is...

I agree, they're different traditions and different owners. But it seems like no matter what they do, they end up as the clipper, it's like Gilligan's Island. They just always end up back in the same place again. Even when they get Coah Linner and Paul George, they together play... They together don't play a whole ton of games. It also doesn't help that that Paul George trade will go down as one of the worst trade in the history of... They gave up the best... playing the NBA. They gave up a lot more than that.

And a whole bunch of traffic, right? That's what I'm saying. So that's what I'm saying. Even this new Clipper team, it's done some real Clipper shit. So I don't have sympathy for them. And I'm only saying that to say, if we don't know what happened between Chris Paul and the Clippers, I'm going on the Chris Paul side. Because the clippers have done nothing in their history to make me feel like they handle shit the right way. That's all. I'm with ICE. Whatever Chris Paul did, he doesn't deserve that. Yeah, that's all I'm, that's all I'm doing. He doesn't deserve that. Like, we can all agree on that.

The LeBron 10 point streak has ended. Yes. Yeah. You're championing. Mark, that's sick. No, no, no, no, no. You're a sicko. You're missing what I'm saying.

I love LeBron. What I'm saying is I love the fact that it ended with him making the right basketball play. Yeah, that was. I thought that was great. I mean, if you're going to end your streak, and I'm sad that it ended is one of most impressive streaks I've ever seen 18 years. But I'm like, he could have taken that shot. And there's a lot of players in the league that would have taken that shot to try and get 10 points.

The street ended in the most. LeBron way that it could possibly And thank God that all you I hit that shot Yeah And that's what I'm saying So I'm saying salute to LeBron Like to me If you look at LeBron's legacy

This is like an embodiment of it You know what I'm saying Even when he didn't score the 10 points He did it because he made the right basketball play And they won the game from making the past Which to be Future reference When I say the LeBron streak ended

And you say yes We don't get all that context It looked a little crazy You don't get all that extra content That you threw out there It was sorry I was excited to talk about it It wasn't on the board

And I was like oh yes we get to talk about I was excited. Got it. Yeah, I've been really happy to see. Ish. What do I stand? I'm not disagree with him. No, I'm asking you about your Laker fan,

so I'm throwing it to you now. And we're working. No, no, no. You said, ish. I just want to hear your thoughts, period. Or as a Lakers? No, about the streak and then as a Laker fan. I don't care about that shit.

I care about us winning games. So him making that play and we win a game based on that play is all I get a fuck about. Got it. Do y'all think we ever see this again? See what? A LeBron type of person? No. That type of streak.

That's not. That's tough. 18 years in long time. Staying healthy that long and playing at an optimal level is really, really hard to do. Even with today's technology, that shit is hard to do, bro. I don't think we see that. A 20-year career is hard to do. Of, like, playing well.

At a high level. Yo, just playing at that level of, yo, you running and you jumping and you pounding on your body, that shit is hard to do for 20 years, bro. I'm with everything y'all's saying. because we're on air. If we are not on air, then if I'm LeBron James, after that game,

I'm hitting Luca and Austin Reeves group chat to tell them, yo, give me some more fucking shots for I choke slam one of you motherfuckers. No, you're not. I'm the greatest in the world, all right? Fucking LeBron.

Make sure I get more than eight points. No, you're not. Hey, hey, home boy, I see you on fire right now. Before the fourth quarter, make sure a big daddy get his. Keep cooking so y'all can get me another three years and I can come get some more money

give me another $25,000 $25 million a year. Continuing to Cook says that he's going to get more time. I don't look at it like that. No, I say if they keep playing at this level, I ain't got to play that hard. LeBron could get another two or three years. If they

keep playing at this level, he's going to get the Chris Paul wave in the middle of the night. You crazy as hell. Hey, this ain't Jeannie Bussing them no more, big door. Remember, they sold. This is some old nigginess that don't know nothing. No, he know. I mean, shit. He know, though.

Whoever, whoever, they know. You said it's somebody that don't know. That's LeBron James. They still know. Yo, let's have that talk. Because we can't repeat in people's names. That's Chris Paul. That's LeBron James. No matter who you are, what goes up, Muscombe. Yeah, of course.

Of course. And when you're on the downward, everybody is not adhering to You was who you are. Yeah, everybody ain't rocking like that. That's true. for the most part. We talk about LeBron James. Just him saying, hey, this is my last season.

Dog, this rumors right, this room is right now. They're not getting along right now. It's rumors right now that LeBron is contemplating this being his last season. I'll see it. Because he is still at odds with, I'm just telling you rumors. Okay, okay. So. We're my last season here.

No, I got the rumblings. It can be the last season over here. Yeah, I heard the rumblings. I might not like them. It don't look like they're getting along. Yeah, it don't. If you're just looking at it, but I'm mind of my business. I don't have insiders.

Have you see how JJ looked out? him the other day when he was getting blown by 20 and he was over there, Keith Cannon, laughing and joking with the Phoenix, niggas. Niggas is looking like, what the fuck is you doing? That looked funny, yo. Last year, when he was doing that shit with Ant Man and then when we was losing in the playoffs,

niggas was mad. That looked funny, that shit where he going and say peace to everybody he'd know on the other team on the bench. I don't like that shit. I mean, I've accepted that superpowers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just old we dinosaurs in that aspect.

And the game I see to do it was Dallas. Don't walk to the other team. And do your secret handshakes with them. You can do that when you're winning. We're not losing by 30 and you keep in with them niggas over there. No. I don't want to see that shit at all. But again, that's just my own-school.

These guys like each other a lot more. They're best friends. You know, opposing teams. I'm not used to that. But I respect that LeBron does that and he still shows up for the game and still plays to the utmost. He's a legend. He deserves all the praise. This streak for me, in some ways, is, you know,

No, to me, it's just as impressive almost as his NBA scoring, as his all-time scoring record. I mean, just terms of the consistency night after night after night, really never having a night where you don't do that. I mean, that's impressive, man. And I don't know if we give LeBron enough credit. I think we see so much greatness around him because he's been here around. I think we're going to need five years of distance from him to really appreciate how amazing and unparalleled LeBron James is as a basketball player. I agree. Yeah, Pete, speaking of big.

super big superstars. Let's wrap this up so we can get Demona back in the game. I'll be trying, bro. You see, Des Moaner. No, you know, and I said something about the Chris Paul thing because that sounds pretty bad. Well, DeMona, what do you think about Clay naming a boat after Meg? I think it's lit.

I think it's a maze balls. It's a boat. Like, what is it a boat? It's not like the little cheat boats, the little motor. It's a yacht, right? It could be the minnow. Somebody named something after you. I don't want a ragny ass boat named that.

A little tuckbook After you are some shit The fancy matchbook With the thing on the side The little strikeer on the side of the box Yeah, yeah, yeah, the fancy one I think they roll in They're gonna name a Delta 88 after Mona

Did they show the boat? I haven't seen the boat I just know Clay Towson named the boat None of this is moving too fast for y'all Mark As niggas that have moved fast The mark is such a bitch You don't know

Listen to Mark Yeah, I am. You're asking the wrong niggas if something is moving too fast for them. You are. Why, y'all move fast? Hey, ha, ha, ha. And they're calling me. That's the funny part.

These niggins is Ben Johnson, Carl Lewis. Who say Mike and Michael Johnson. These things. Is it moving too fast for you? Yeah. Why? Um, I assume celebrity romances don't last. that's why.

I just assume celebrity romances don't last. It might not be fair, but I assume they don't. Clay are really a celebrity, though. Huh? He famous. And a celebrity... No. Yeah, just walking back.

No, no. He don't live, in my opinion, we don't see him outside like a celebrity, is what I'm saying. Like, he don't be at all the shit. Yeah, he's more private. Yeah, he's more private. That's what makes me worry more about this. Because he'll lose that, fucking with her.

I'm not, I just want a relationship to move at a good pace. But who sets that pace? Why? Who are you in the game business? Nigel, this whole story ain't our business. I'm just saying, don't make me the same. That's getting games in a month. It's working, yeah.

Tell me what you think, Joe. Don't make me. I love it. Love wins. I love it. I love it. I'm a fan of love. Love wins.

He picked up from the airport the other day, car full of gifts and shit. I love it. I love the romantic seeing all of that. A little bit of paint take all the way, too. That's true. I guess you can unname a book. A little bit of pace.

Oh, now that's a fact. You know, y'all. Maybe that's how I need to think about it. You know what I mean? You don't move fast? You don't move fast? Look, if my- I move fast, I'm pregnant.

I think you're a big board, nigga. You that movie. Moving fast is fun. I like it. It's so exciting. Let's get to that bar since you want to talk shit. Oh, I love moving fast. I just know it's a bad idea.

It's a blast. All my gosh. All right. So Joe. moving fast for you. Like, what's the, have you moved somebody in fast? No, you're not understanding what I'm telling you, bro. I couldn't answer that. And I try, I tried to, I tried to told you.

Okay, so paint the picture for me. So two weeks. Well, he was trying to move in too. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Corey said they just never leave the first day. I mean, two weeks. Yes, I have moved people in fast.

Now, if you moving, if you're moving a bitch in two weeks, that bitch ain't have a home to start. Whoa. I don't know. I don't think it's exciting. You know what's made. I don't know what these are. Look.

I don't know. I don't think it's exciting to move fast. It's funner. Moving in a stranger with fire pussy. I don't know what these niggins is talking about. Like, well, you get to know the bitch every week. It's exciting. Mm-hmm.

Every week you learn something new. By week six, you find out her last name and the middle name. See, that's crazy. So, Joe, you do the quick move in or whatever. Have done, Ma. Have done. I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, you can't play like that now. I'm paying the pen.

I'm saying, so you do the quick move in and then things don't work out. What do you do? Do you do a quick exit or do you have to sit? Stop where you make my girl mad. Ow! Because don't move everybody else in and take your time. Oh, shit. No, no, because I'm doing that.

This is what he does. Have Shade lived in the tri-state area? She had already been there. What are you talking about? Shit, back in the day, yeah. Anyway, what did you say, DeMone? I like moving fast.

You never move fast before? No, that's not my thing. Ever? He do. You never move fast. To make somebody my girlfriend officially, that's not my thing. It's not even about it.

It's not even about it. You know, that's where he hang his hat always. He just said the same thing, bro. Everybody, not you, nigga. I don't play with him like I play with you, boy, pause. I don't get money for that. I'm talking to you.

No, that's not my thing. No, but this is what I'm saying. Because you said, make him your girlfriend. We're fascinated him the title thing. Before you know it, we just wrapped up in this shit. Yeah, but I'm not calling you my men. You know, my niggum. When I look up and we locked in and around much and move fast.

We're not locked in two weeks. Oh, yes, we are. We're locked in. You ain't never had a good two weeks. Yeah. You ain't never had. If you didn't do this, I challenge, you never had a good two weeks. Two weeks is long.

Yes. Be a fire weekend. Like the week. Don't let it be a three day weekend. What? What? Don't let it. No, let it be.

Memorial Day weekend. Nobody did you. Labor Day weekend. Oh, my God. I said him, him and him. You are in a hotel. I get how it was fun to do that, but that ain't ever been my thing. Like, I look a little.

You was on some doctor shit. But in the real nigger street. I just take a while. I get to know them. In the real nigger streets, hey, how much it takes for you to take off? Why don't just stay with me. Stay in the bed. Don't go to work.

Forever. Forever. Forever. RIP to all the niggas, how much it costs for you to take off? How much it costs for you to wipe your whole day clean because we so in love. That's a fucking so bad. We had so much fun at the diner yesterday. Oh, my God.

Do y'all remember when the business was out? He's talking now. Oh, my God. Pay to stay home is crazy. I remember that. You ain't got to go to bankers today. He gave me chills memories. No.

Yo, how much? Yo, stay home. That is the shit. No. Like, oh my God. You got to pay for what she would. have made it the job. I get the logic of it. I know trickling up.

I let him go to write. Yeah, it wasn't a lot of money. No one other. They won't $75. Throw them something on it. Here you know. Bidgette don't be making shit. You're going to 100.

Stay home. I want everybody to know in this room and at home. See, they're like the corporate chicks. That don't exist no more. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You like just at home, drive through and take care of itself. They got corporate. Perkins can run itself.

Yeah, you're good. The clothes to fold themselves. Right. He's absolutely. What a lot. What a lot. You're crazy as hell I'm in their kid

And I'm gonna go to the kid room in the morning Let me see what little Timmy is up here You ain't, nigga? What's up? Why did you keep calling me Timmy? My name is Ron. Exactly. If you're hungry and I'm hungry,

Mama will wake up. Get to making some eggs or something up in there. Yeah, hell yeah, move fast. There's people out there listening right now. Just met each other last night, hungover, still kissing. He told me, ever heard this podcast? They're viving. It's a vibe.

Young lady go home. No, moving fast is fun. Nah, no. You're in love, you're a love. You're in love. And moving fast is more fun if you're both famous.

Now you get to step into that world see what the fuck she's doing? I think that could be. I don't know nothing about that one. You seem like it was fun. So, so you've dated famous people. All that are a date of it. I have not.

Everybody here has a dated famous. I haven't. Everybody hasn't. Everybody hasn't. Everybody hasn't. Don't assume because I did it the room did. I don't have no goals. dating famous people

just showish age I just dated Twitter famous people I just dated Twitter famous Who did it's interesting That was famous They're not doing Uh huh

Hold on They better stop playing with them That's true You're right I'm not saying When you date somebody famous There's also the The world gets in your business

Faced Yeah I think that's slower And it's a commitment You know what I mean No no Listen what I'm saying Let's what I'm saying I'm just saying

Like, it's one thing to date somebody for a weekend and then you get over that shit or two weeks later, you move it right back out. But you don't took pitches, you weren't, all the blogs, you on the tabloys back in the day. And now you've got to explain a week later why y'all not together.

Like, that's too much bullshit. Well, that's what helps keep y'all together when you move fast, put out some content y'all gain an audience together. And now we got to make this work. That's what I'm saying. We're going to let our fans down now. That's what I'm saying.

You stuck in some bullshit because you're, because the world is watching. Or the flip side of it. That is, it can help you. I don't even really know you, girl. Get the fuck out of it. Like, you could get it, you could just get on whatever you want to get on. I need to know who is.

Stay out of the libraries, nigger. I need to know. What do you need to know what? I need to know who the is date that was famous. Ask me right there. He's right there playing with his sneakers. Like a duke. I asked him, he called me, he called me fam.

He was talking to you. He already did. He already said, no, fam, no. He already said no. He turned to me like, I don't want to talk about it. That old white lady in Toronto wasn't famous. He did that little lick pucker. That little 70-year-old white lady from Toronto

wasn't famous? I'm playing with my son. Was she famous, famous or like? Like an extra in the Best Man holiday. She was the... Actually, she wasn't. Best Man How was. Oh, shit.

Stop, yo. You gotta beat. I'm playing. I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad. This nigga, yo. No, I'm joking.

Will you tell Mona off-air to one person? Never. No. Damn. No. I'm not going to do it. I fuck with you. That's what I'm talking about.

That's why I'm going to move fast because he's not going to tell you. But why not? But to answer your question, she's famous, famous. Okay. And dub this shit out of him. Duff-d-do you. Through that nigga to the streets. Y'all still close?

No, she don't speak to that nigga. You, double? Hey, look. Hey, she threw that that nigga right back to wherever he was that. Go build that house, boy. Oh, shit. You, what happened? What happened?

I just remembered. I forgot. At first I was being authentic, but once I remember jokes, once I remember jokes started flying. So she was famous, y'all was, how long was y'all to get them? She's still famous.

She stood? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I don't know famous chicks.

It's you that don't date them. Yeah. I agree. I don't date models, my dick. I don't, I ain't date no famous chicks. I'm with you. I'm with you. No, he's been charging his shit off.

I don't date Let them get this shit on the phone Hey, that's what it is I don't take NBA contracts Same shit You know what I'm saying I don't hit the lot of Right

Fuck the lot of Yeah No what I was saying I don't have any on my Gotcha Got you got you That's them guys I have no interest in date

Anybody famous Famous people are assholes I think that's true But see I think That's what They also stop me from doing Your All thing Which is moving fast

I think too many eyeballs relationship fucks it up. Even if I dated somebody famous, I would never do it publicly. You know what I mean? You ain't in control of that. I ain't trying to make no TikTok. Yes, I am in control of it.

I think you would do if you were to love you together for a year or two. First of all, I ain't that famous anybody following me around. I still still from out of Walmart sometimes. Okay, but they might be following the nigger around. That's what I'm saying. I'm not doing it.

I'm not fucking with no nigger where TMZ going to throw out the butcher's, oh, is this the new baby mom? No. I don't have any interest in it because of that. And I'm still still from Walmart. They got the new camera shit in there now. Target, ice, shut up. Walmart got it two now.

Please. I'm telling you something. I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying to hold you down. Me and Joe bonded over stealing stories recently. Y'all ain't bond over no Walmart stories, I'll tell you. And what they do is. I don't know where me and Joe still.

No, no, no, Mona. They let you run it up to a certain number. That's Target, ice, please. All right. When the last time y'all stole something? Exactly. I'm not talking about the PPP shit. I mean, for real, for real, for real.

Like not stealing from. the government. Oh my shit. Ice don't steal. I know it. Nope. Pack of bubble gum. You would never.

Nope. Never. Ice, you were the type of nigger one of them kids walk out with lollipop. You walk him back in and pay for it. No, I don't.

I say, I'm on my business. That's still stealing. Nothing but his baby's hard. I'm talking about your baby. Walk out with the lollipop with you. You notice it in the hall wheel. Oh, please. Come on, dog.

You're raising them up right, migger. Sorry. No, you, you raising your kids right? It's not. And dig into them taking something? They're so little. How did we get to ice-raising?

All right. Because you, you want to keep his baby's heart, nigga, yeah. Now let's talk about it. Let's talk about it, yeah. So Apple, speaking of ice. But if you could date a famous girl, like if that wasn't your rule, like, who would you pick? That is not ICE's rule.

Yes, it is. He just said that. Ice is lying. Yo, what do we doing? If ICE was single and one of them disabled famous chicks? No. I don't know. I don't know what he's saying?

talking about who would it be I don't know if ICE was single I do remember you're saying date date or fuck I got a fuck no oh those two different conversations but I think ice is open to both if he was single I think every nigga in this room the right girl and you in the room full of real niggins when we say date we pop that's we oh no no no no you just off the rip you could just so all us happened well that's happened before dating yeah pop and it's before yeah yeah but wave way way before you're right Same night.

Same fight. You know. Like, I don't. I don't know nothing. Yeah, nah. I don't know shit. Might not make it to date, too. After work today, get with me.

I'm gonna tell you about some of the chicks that's dated. Please, I need to know. I'm curious. I'm curious about the time. I know who want to know. Guess who know. Guess who know. The truth.

I know the truth. I'm with that. I'm with that shit. We can start with the famous bitch. I want to know who that is. Oh, that's going to be quick. That's it. Did she sing?

It wasn't like, oh. Is she in music? I'm not telling you nothing. That's my man, so I ain't going to give it away on air. But off air, I'm going to tell you all his business. That's his favorite pass on. That's his shit. But I got to fuck with you to tell is business.

Like when them niggas see me in the street and want to kick it with me about is, that's my man. I don't fuck out my face, nigga. But if I know you and love you, oh, please, key it up. This is your shit and me? All right, I do have. Oh, oops. I do have Farrell's clip.

Farrell responds to the recent controversy surrounding his political comments while accepting the 2025 FNAA Shoe of the Year award. Let's hear it. Like to hear it here. Yes, sir. Uh, the dude.

Sound like this. Since most people don't like to read but do research and you- He's such a smug motherfucker. This nigga is a smug, snarky fuck. Sound like this. Virginia sound like this you don't know what I go you ain't seen what I saw no you ain't been where I go the fettie so strong we got nice

it's a child nobody's been for been convicted more times than me bites turned off water turned and at times had to pump the water have a name brand sneaker until I was 16 when I got four them for my first paycheck for me down it's a long clip too What is that? Like, why? Like, why? You're fast. Like this.

Don't be fooled by my bourgeois taste in luck. I'm proletarian. In fact, I'm lumping proletarian. Not about this. Oh my God. Sound like this. But I could never walk in the shoes of my parents, parents, parents, parents, etc.

All they had to have to my parents, door and door while staying on their feet. Or my ancestors who arrived as captives enslaved, who had no shoes yet had to stay on their feet as they landed on the shores of Virginia. As black and brown people on this earth, we have to stay on our feet. We have never had a choice.

Sound like this. We've needed to meet them to somewhere to walk in our shoes. That's why sound like this. Oh, my God. Yeah, all right. A dog, big dog. Yeah, yeah.

Being the hook to death. I'm done. Is that a hook in his speech? What the fuck is that? He's so corny. And I don't know why you think that just because you basically saying you grew up in the mud, you grew up in the churches, that that takes away that you said something really insensitive and ignorant. It doesn't.

If anything, it makes it worse because you had that experience. You've lived that experience. Weirdo. I don't trust niggas with little heads you see my head ice

and forehead oh sorry I just didn't know I just didn't know I never seen my forehead so recently and it's been a little shocking I'd never leave a bob

I always get my frontal ice down further on my head to chop this motherfucker down and every time I've ever came here I've had frontal right you know what I mean walk in with the forehead

I'll just need oh what the fuck oh no like what the fuck you never seen a big forehead nigga that's

speech was bizarre to me. It was. I'm not sure who the audience is for that or what the context is for it. But I don't think it accomplished what he thought it was going to accomplish. Yeah, he didn't eat down like he thought he did. Yeah.

Sound like this. I'm one of you. Yeah, you're not. Broke asses. Right. Right. It's weird. I'm the proletarian. You're not. You're literally the 1%. Yeah, like what is he talking about? Don't let the art fool you. And just take your shoe of the year award and go. Like, we had a shoe awards.

Oh, that's what it was? We had the shoe awards, nigga. If there's one place I don't want to hear about the nigga ancestors, it's at the shoe awards. Yo, just go ahead, nigga. Thank the clips, thank Louis. But all of this, my ancestors, I'm from Virginia. They were standing on business without shoes,

and we got here on the shipping over here. I don't demand. Farrell's a fucking dup to me. I ain't a lot. Great producer. He is. Great producer, but he's one of them. You could tell he's angered by the reaction, though.

He doesn't have any feeling or feeling bad for it. He's just pissed that people talk, you know, that got mad about what he's. I'm just saying if I'm him, I made those comments. Like you said, I'm angry at the response that I've, if I'm just saying, if I'm for real, and I feel like this has been taken out of context or something, my next chance to speak where I know it's going to be cameras and shit, I'm probably going to do something like that. You know what you would do, though? you would actually address the thing that you thought people got wrong.

Word. Well, that's what, and his version of doing it is the whole sound bite this, like saying that y'all don't read, and you're just taking sound bites and going off of that and having a whole discourse off of that. It's just a lot of strong into me. Like, no one was saying Farrell's statements were fucked up because he wasn't born poor or because he grew up with a silver spoon.

You know what I mean? It wasn't. It was, yo, you said this shit. It's insensitive. It's inconsiderate. And it's wrong. And DEI stuff and all that stuff. It's out of touch.

It's all those things. And so even if everything you said is true in that speech, which I don't doubt was, it don't change. It don't apply. It don't change. They ain't got to do what we was talking about. Yeah. I give you, that's all for me. Sound like this.

I see Meek's message to O'Head is on the board. And I always love what Meek speaks out. I heard him speaking out about violence in the neighborhoods and stuff like that. So I'm always happy when Meek speaks up because it's a lot. Are you always happy with Meek Meek speak up? I am. I am. I cringe.

He's always embarrassing us. All right. Mick Mill says, These niggas holding info on the next generation and snatching all opportunities and using money to control the motion. I'm going to all white men and a rabs about business and getting play. No black men, quote unquote. That's no black men quote unquote that's older than me. I'll never get it.

But I'm going to change that. We can't look up to the black older artists because they be damn near hating on us, it feels like. But if a white man asked them to do it, they're going to twerk for them. He is the wrong person to say that. I will never get this part. I don't care if I die in the streets. I ain't being around that devil mental warfare shit for money. I don't want none of these people saying they love me or saying my brother anymore.

Just straight up, just straight up head up business. The biggest manipulation tactic in business. End quote. What do you think, Joe? I really enjoy me tweeting too because I love it. It's always compelling and interesting. and I mean as the guy that lost the bet and had to do the bunny bunny rap the bunny hop

yeah that was just an interesting comp to be drew I wouldn't have said that but I think meek is old head he is how old is meek he's not he's not the youngest 30 40s yeah yo dog anybody in rap with 10 years in you old head meek is 38 30 young you old head but I don't know if he's He's talking about it from a level of age more than business and wisdom. To a bunch of people meek his old head with the experience of wisdom.

But I'm saying the people above him that he might get information from. He's talking about another generation above him. He's saying that I would give the information and filter it down to the niggas that's younger to me. The people above him that have amassed more than me, they're not sharing the information. Let me ask, did him at home fallout or something? Are we missing something? This is what it looked like between this. The rants he had before about I'm trying to put the project together.

I'm trying to come up with this money. I'm trying to get, what he said, $5 million in investment money. When you was running around with Hove and Michael Rubin and all a billionaire crew, I don't really see you with them like that no more. And now this statement right here... I still be fucking on Michael Rubin. Okay. Well, I don't see you with Hove anymore.

And this statement right here sounds like directly talking to Hove and Rick Ross. I was thinking Rick Ross. I was thinking Rick Ross. I'm curious. That was the rumor. I just seen a picture with him at him. I just posted a bunch of him. just with him and Rick Ross, which is also trying to say, hey, I'm not talking about Rick Ross. The rumors was that it was whole.

I don't know if it was true or not, but that's what people were, to your point, that's what people were saying. I'm curious to what young niggas coming up that are younger than him have to say about him. Did he usher anybody in? Did he help anybody? He might have. I'm curious. I've heard some, but I'm curious what the masses would say. I feel like it's always like that.

You look up and it's like, oh, I ain't getting no support or I ain't getting, whatever. But he's at the age where his niggas looking up at him, too. But the thing is, for the facts from Philadelphia, his niggis looking up him and tried to reach out and do shit. And Meek has worked with lesser known younger artists. A lot of them. Plenty of them.

Especially artists that rep the trenches and all. He has definitely done that. Meek might not have the, like, he don't have a label. He might not have the ability to really maneuver and usher somebody else in like he would like to do.

Or like they would even think, you know, Meek just has his name right now. you know what I just don't like him speaking from not just him this anybody I don't like people speaking from only their experiences and then turning around saying all black OGs are not helping they're not talking they're not funneling down the information

that makes me wonder who your OGs are who are your OGs that's part of what I was asking what you thought about it because I was wondering what your experience was coming through the business oh I don't oh coming through the business is different Coming through the business is dog eat dog. Trying to get a record deal in the 90s,

you know, I used to wonder why you would see fucking Chris Lighty or whatever exec. Whatever exec. And you could be nice as hell and not get a callback. But niggas ain't trying to help people that's nicer than them or that was the thing in the 90s. I don't know if that's so much the case today as I got older, as I went through shit,

I got plenty of jewels from people older than me. A lot of the, the, KRS 1 don't stop teaching Black Thought don't stop teaching Royce don't stop teaching Fucking There's names I can name Of people who will

Willingly give you the information Free of charge I don't know what circles he's in But And to some people's point Like because I know that was a common thing Where a lot of people Was having a problem with Master P about that

Where P was trying to help Some of these younger artists Like, yo let me look at your paperwork Let me see this, let me see that And then he got burnt a couple times and then when I was saying I'm not doing this shit for free no more. I'm not trying to help you. Masterby?

Yeah, Masterby said that. And then it was another thing where it's like, I believe it was, I think it was Kodak. Yo, let me try to help you all, make sure you were the proper situation and you waste my time. So now it's like, y'all I'm charging for this information. I guess it's not just help you for the love and a game or help you for free. But don't take the information. Some people don't want.

Because they don't hear what they want to hear. Right. And they don't want information. They want you to hold their hand. They want you to hold their hands. And then walk them through the steps to get them to the next level. And some people say because they're only one step or two steps to your point. Right.

People say they want information, but they really want you to move something for them, get it done, move a mountain. It's like, bitch, that's not what you ask for. That's how you should be direct because you never know what I mean. But for the most part, I think it's like a doggie dog thing. I think age don't matter. And I'm talking about in general, just in this country, rich motherfuckers keep their money from keeping other people away from getting it, period. That's just what goes on.

My fucks you out, blows you out that. I don't think that that changes whether. it's black, white, whatever. It's the American fucking way. It's capitalism. That's the part I didn't like about what Meek said. Because I agree with him that is you and him that is dog-eat-dog. And I do think there's a lot of people to hoard information or will exploit you and pretend

use the brother card as a way to exploit. Like, we're brother, you know. I get that. But it's not like, where's this history of, like, white men being that helpful? Exactly. Arabs? Like, I think all race, I think, like you said, as a capitalist, like, I think everybody in the record business who's an exact or powerful, they got powerful by hoarding power.

That's what you do. I don't think it's a, I actually don't think that's a race thing. I think it's just, that's the way the business works. That's just what goes on. And those niggas come from the music industry got in the podcast and did the same shit.

That's what people are going on. That's what niggas do. And it's the thing. It's like, you could have a cry about it. You can figure it to fuck out. I'd rather figure it out. You're not going to see me on a platform, bitching because anybody help me.

Fuck y'all. I don't need no help. But I didn't hear me bitching about it. What I heard him say was I'm going to do something different. And that's the part I appreciated about what he said. Like, nah, he was bitching, though. Anytime you get on a platform and start the black men don't, you bitching. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then he was talking about us. I ain't with that shit. See, I don't even like that part. Like, I don't like that part because it was a black man, Ross, who put him on. Put you in front of the rest of us. Yeah, and not even that. Before the black men, I remember distinctly because Mick Mills was everything in certain years. Tiya got on that mixed state and everything changed.

Because he was going to work in Tia. Because Tiya got indicted, so he couldn't sign him. And that's how he ended up with Rick. But it was huge. All of rap niggas, all them DVD niggas, all them people. That's what set me apart when Tiag got out on that mixtape. And that shit went crazy and he'd been unlocal ever since. You know what I mean?

So for that guy to say it, it's like, you the nigga that's going to say it? I don't like that. I don't like that. But I think there's a difference between the music piece and the business piece. I think we keep taking this back to music. And I don't necessarily know he's referring to music. He might not be referring to music. He might be referring to other levels of business, which I...

But music is the business, y'all. What are we talking about? No, I think what he said is, you'll put me on music, because you can put on and still get exploited. Yeah, that don't make... Like mad niggas have been introduced to the world. We diss and puff. Puff can say, y'all, put all these people on,

but all of these niggas are still broke at the end of the day. They all still bitching about not receiving what they were supposed to receive or what they contractually signed up to get. So Puff can say, y'all, put you on. But if you to do, Rod, whatever, he's saying, I ain't get no money. And he's saying more too, but...

Of course, I'm just giving you an example. So, yeah, I could put you on, but I don't even necessarily thinking he's talking about the music business. I think that, from what I've heard, Rowland... What he says, and I'll just repeat this. We can't look up to the black older artists because they be damn near hating on us, it feel like. That to me, sound like he thinks that he's of a younger age

and the older artists. To who he's talking to? Yeah. He's of a younger age. Yo, let me tell you something. Bun B ain't going to hate on nobody. Nope. That's a fact.

Yeah. He's going to give you all the information. I can name a list of OGs who they'll talk to you. I can't speak. I can't speak for Meek's experience. But again, but framing this like this is. Because again, yo, Meek got records where he's saying, is it because I got the billionaire for Marcy who got my back?

Excuse me. Stuff like that. I think this is a hove beef he has. Whereas, Hove, you're here. you got this, I'm trying to get to that level and I expect you to bring me to that level. Why? That's a big expectation.

Because we brothers. Yeah, now of them. That's what it sounds like. But that's why he's saying, don't know. Stop hiding it behind the brother shit. Just because you, my sister, don't mean I got to help you and get on my life. That's crazy. But if a white man asks them to do it, they're going to work for them.

Bro, he's not all the way wrong. He might have a point with the one. He's not all the way wrong. So I can stand on the opposite. out of y'all. And again, I don't know nothing about the music business, but in business itself, there are times where somebody might have some information that can help you ascend and they not give it to you. And they'll give it to a stranger. That happens, bro. He's not totally way off. Again, I'm not familiar with the music business, but in business, a nigger will give a stranger

way more information than they might give somebody that they've known forever because you're not necessarily competing with some stranger. That stranger's going over there. The nigger right here that's at an eight and you at a 20 I got to see him every day. So now I might give him some information and he could take that eight and turn it to a 25 and I'm still stuck at a 20. That happens in business yo. He's not completely wrong now. So to oppose

that too, there are also maybe someone that you have given information for 20 years and they don't do anything with the information and they keep asking for information it's like how much more can I give you? That's true. Both things can be true. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, both things can be true. Yeah, but one thing I don't have a whole lot of time for in business is

crying. If somebody ain't giving you the information and we're still in business, all right, what's your next move? Yeah, but you still got to figure it out. But to some people's point, why would I have to figure it out? If my man that's calling me his brother got a PhD in this particular topic, I shouldn't have to figure it out on my own because you went through it. I agree with you. So don't say you love me. Don't say we pro-black and we all these other things.

If you see that you could solve this problem for me or help me solve this problem and you leave me to figure it out. Hold up a minute, moment, but he's the last person now. He's the last person that can say that. As I'm just sitting here thinking, part of ICE's earlier point, Meek has been in all of the rooms that none of y'all can get in. He's been around all of the brainiacs. He's been around the best lawyers, the best accountants. He's had access to shit that nobody has.

He's been around the best. So for him to be the guy to come and say people are gatekeeping the information, it's like, dog, you can't say that. Your whole trajectory is that. Because somebody gave you access. We're talking about the same dude that because meet God's support in the city. Before he was first coming out, he caught that stupid-ass case because Pennsylvania locked you up and throw you away the key for nothing. But his bell was real high.

He was facing a lot of time. The door on the street then was he got support by somebody big in the city and they came through and paid the bell and da-da-da. Then again, he'd get booked with the dirt bike shit, all the people, you know what I mean? It's like it's been a lot of times where he's got support from big and small. and everybody else. So I don't want to hear you bitch on Twitter. Yeah, that was gonna be my next point.

I don't want to hear you bitch on Twitter. Come together. Stand up. Go to Philly. City Hall, March. Like, you can't say that is all. Nah. Not the nigga that lands on the helicopter

first day out of jail on top of the corner. I mean, I think it's different though. I get to your point. I still think that that all happened. He could still be saying but when you get into this business world is different.

Was he not in the business world? It's the same shit. I think he's saying the people who are in the business world who help them are the white men and that the black men are gatekeeping the business side of it. I'm not saying it's true. I would challenge him if that's what I thought he was saying. If you think that black people,

you're just misinformed. You ain't been around enough white people in the business, period. If he's saying that's because he ain't been around enough white people. Or if Michael Rubin and Robert Crack. He's not. He felt like they're giving them more games than the black person. That's what he's saying. That's what we get, get keeping from.

Mona, get that. Mona, get that, girl. There you go. Tightening the shit up, man. I got you. I'm not productive. The side pieces. This shit should be done.

ready when I get it. I'm turning it the wrong way, yo. You know about the side piece. You know about the side piece is better than me. Oh, shit. There we go. You sure. There we go.

Oh, you were saying? Oh, I was something. I know. Where was that? I don't know. Oh, you said that the gatekeeping came from. Oh, yeah. Me personally.

I mean, that's that I, yes. Black people got gatekeeping from white people. Oh, for sure. That's a fact. Yeah. And again, I think we put, sometimes we do put more criticism on each other. A white man might give you one piece of information. And it's like, oh, they did everything for me.

Exactly. You know, and to your point, you could have gotten 10 years of information from a black person. And one time they say no, it becomes like black people don't fuck with me. So I don't know what's true in Meeks case, but I just, I'd like to know more about what he was talking about. Because the problem with the tweets is that they're so vague. Yeah, they're cryptic. Yeah, they're cryptic. That's a better word.

I don't even know exactly what he. Because I'm saying It still sounds like Hove to me Bro, if he put them tweets out And then everybody's saying Okay, he's talking on Hove or Ross And then I turn around And put up a bunch of pictures

With me and Ross But what is he thinking Hove on calling? I'm telling y'all something What is he gonna get out the tweets I never heard that there was a meek and Hove beef. Oh, I didn't hear it

But I mean So I'm just tracking it from Oh, go ahead Because I mean I feel like that was the first That was the first rumor of it That there was a tension there That's why in the whole

In the verse when Hove's like You know what I mean Me and Meekin Nuff I freed that nigga from the whole bid. He was responding to the rumor that they had a beef. I remember that.

But that response doesn't mean that they actually don't have a beef. It just doesn't mean we shouldn't have a beef. No, it means you might be beefing with me. I'm never about it. But also, you shouldn't be because I freed you from a whole fucking,

I'm just saying so you can read that a lot of ways. But it didn't clear the air. Right. And then since then there's been less community. I pulled every string in the world to free you. I agree. You can't say anything about me. You can't say anything.

Freedom, man. Freedom, me. I don't owe you nothing. I feel the same way. You don't know how Pennsylvania citizens, people. And so, but since then there's been this undercurrent that there was some tension between it. I don't know if it's true or not, but that's definitely what people are saying.

And that's definitely not stopped. He ain't helping it with this. And these tweets, these tweets reinforce that to me. Exactly, I agree. And if you wanted, if that's the relationship that he wants back, he wants to mend, that's not how you went to do it with a nigger like that. I don't know. I ain't going to lie. Bring back the motherfucking late 90s in the 2000s

where if we had a problem with Hove, we told you what the problem was these motherfuckers now they'll never say whatever if you're the real beef is they're not in fairness 1999 JZ nigga I'm gonna say why because he's so powerful

yeah I was like hope was your peer to him he's like a mob boss to them you're 25 you ain't saying shit about old you were battled a nigga shit he was a mob boss yes but he was your level's levels to peers yes for sure

we shouldn't have been saying stuff about Mr. Carter he wasn't a nigga's peer then But people might have thought That's what I'm saying Now it's clear Now the separation is apparent

And the air up there is different And you can't say nothing if you want to perform A Super Bowl If you want to perform at Joe's pub You can't say nothing That's how they feel like he can erase everything Wow Niggas that silent sneeze

That's the thing about it What is it? It's a thing about this is silent sneeze I thought he just said Fuck the sneeze This nigga actually sneezed It's just sneezed And it was like you're a beautiful ass niggie

It wasn't the prettiest sneeze That wasn't the prettiest sneeze Clean butthole ass knes Needs It was a good light skinnees Clean ass butthole ass Sneeze Everything he do is beautiful

Meek Good luck I guess I guess Until the fuck off Twitter Until the next week I'm done it I'm done to the next week

Yeah I like Probably already out now I like three out of the four songs off the four pack So I'm cool Yeah Four pack is good

The music is good The music is good The music is the music there, but get the fuck off his Twitter, bro. I got some music. He didn't give a fuck. He'd been shit that got off of social media.

I don't care. No, I get that. I'm a fan of Meek Mill the rapper. So as long as I'm getting raps, I'm cool. You can do all that other shit. You got it. I'm just thinking about all of the times

that Meek has going to the internet with something. And the one that keep coming to mind is when he was mad about Roddy Rich. And what happened with Roddy Rich? I can assure him that that wasn't a black person that did that. Yeah, so go.

I can probably. I could promise him that wasn't a black person that did that. And if the business would have been right in his eyes, there wouldn't be no four-pack. I go back to that all the time. If niggas got they just do and what they accomplished in music, then the beefs would even be different. Oh, for sure. Yeah, absolutely. That's true.

Because that's where a lot of his shit started from. He learned what, I thought, I think it was his first album. He learned what it made. And then he knew what he got. and then that's when he started like hold up wait wait I made how much and sold what where that's what he's maybe he started asking about South Africa numbers and all he started now I'm looking at global numbers this is all shit you're not thinking about before he started to get more information

and then you realize wait how much did I make oh no something's wrong here no and it has been on that ever since and you posting pictures with Ross I can assure you Ross has more information than a lot of people in the music business. For sure. I can assure you. You're right next to the person that we can speak to. Speak to him. For sure.

That's why it feels like one of them, when you say niggas or people, you really mean person. Like this feels like it's targeted at a person. Whoever it is, I'm not saying it's whole. I would respect it more if he highlighted the person or people and didn't say black OGs. That's my only issue of what he's saying. Black OGs are not doing X, Y, Z.

I can't even say how many times. I think Meek would have went and hung around the black OGs that I think are just freely giving out information. You're over there with the cool kids. You're over there with everybody on the French pop that record. It's like where you expect to get your information from? I'm off, right? Yeah, I don't know, Meek.

I don't know. I don't know. I support you. I support you and all you doing because I love the independence thing. I love anybody that's willing to grind it out. And when you're willing to do the independence thing, not to be the broken record again, it's going to be Roblox.

It's going to be roadblocks and people ain't just going to offer to help you get where you going. Independent means you get the lion chair. Unless you're going to start paying people, what do you want me to do? Yeah. Yeah. What else? What else? What else?

And you know, you'd be doing a like fix this business type of a little segment. Roddy Rich. It's a name I thought about. Okay. Who was supposed to drop, right? He was supposed to drop and it magically disappeared. No, no. See, people reported that.

first of, this is either the fifth or sixth date, just in 2025 that this has happened with. I don't know why people are just saying this now. This has been happening since February, where he had a date, and then as the due to presave, and then it disappears. That date approaches, it disappears, it'll pop back up April, July, October, and now December. So I'm not really talking about the date state. I knew that album wasn't coming out. Me and Lo Kee had a whole conversation about it on Twitter. Like, that album's not dropping.

But how can we fix Roddy Rich? And just for the record, it's worse now because it's not just that the Navy album. Yeah, the Navy album. It's not just that it's not pushed back. It's been completely deleted off Apple Music. Oh, really? Yeah. So there's not even a pre-page anymore.

Oh, wow. So it's difficult to say because what's the cause? Yeah, what's the cause? Is the sample clear and shit? Is he not happy? Is he recutting shit? Is he, you know, not paying producers, the label not paying producers,

the label holding it back? As somebody that don't know a thing about any of it, since all the, uh, Julie and Craig leaving Atlantic, what artists at Atlantic? Yeah, yeah, I forgot he's over there. He's in the rut. Yeah, he's in that.

He's in the mix. I think it's more than that, man. I think with him in particular, he dropped, uh, the, please don't excuse me, for being antisocial album. I had the box, which is a diamond record,

I believe at this point. I think that album was like five times platinum or something. Then the next album, which was Live Life Fast or something, wasn't received well. And I think with him,

I think they're scared of that. Or whether it be him, the label, somebody, we can't have another one of those. And I think there's no confidence yet in to,

He dropped a single Survivor's Remorse, which is okay. I like the single. He dropped, something else he dropped. But I think there's a disconnect just in confidence in the music. Which is still an Atlantic thing. Because Roddy Rich came up here. Didn't strike me as somebody that didn't have confidence. He seemed like one of the more confident artists in the universe.

And again, you would be. With the success that he's had. If all those things are true and are true, and what he makes from the show. I'm just saying I don't know him. He didn't seem like he lacked confidence. But even that, what he makes from the show. I thought about that.

You know, festival runs have been going around. I haven't seen his name at the top three lines in a minute. Because he hasn't had up? Well, he needs to come out. Yeah, he hasn't had a record out. Like, I talked to Roddy Rich at the, uh, when we went to the Kendrick show. Okay. He was there.

And we had a quick little conversation. And he still seemed his confidence self. Like, he was like, yo, I'm coming. I got this. I got this. I got this. and nothing. I think that some of the people over there at Atlantic,

and I don't know none of y'all new niggas, I'm from a time before y'all, but it seems like there are some advanced analytics people. Yeah, it's possible. Over there, we're not going off the pulse of things and who's cool and who's dope. We're going off of what we see on this paper. And they may not have seen enough to convince them

that Roddy Rich needs an album in the marketplace right now. It's a weird era too. Again, I'm shooting up to come. Yeah, yeah. It's a weird era too now where we're seeing, especially with the Waleigh project that we've discussed a million times,

but I think that's kind of the blueprint for most of these labels where they're not putting no money up front into the shit. So. Yeah, but at least like with the Waleigh project, which is what a lot of labels are doing now is post-drop marketing where we drop it.

Sure. But I'm saying, we don't even have an album. I'm saying, yeah, put the album out. That's what I'm saying. Like, why would the label have to have confidence if their current business model seems to be, let's put it out, see what happens, and then react from there. I haven't seen anything that says that Atlantic is down with that.

Okay. I'll tell you what, when he first came out, those first was it two? The box was the second one. And then the first, how many was before the box? The box is second and the first one is what? The box was his single, single. That was the one. No, the album was called The Box 2, though, right?

No. That was the album called The Box 2. Please excuse me for being antisocial. Yeah, all that shit was so good. I just never foreseen the beauty. hear this fast. Like, because it's been a while where it's like, what the fuck is going on?

Because he was like, like, it was no skips for me. I fucked from the door. First, I used to think that he was, like, depressed. Like, because, you know, when Nipsey died, I thought they, I knew they were so attached and that was a mentor his. And I thought that could affect him.

But, like, at this point, it's like, what the fuck is going on? And he spoke to dealing with some of the same things that, um, that Bryson Tiller talked about. Like, my first project being so successful that it made me depressed. Yeah. Like, he spoke to a little bit of that happening as well. So it could be a combination of things.

And then he came out with the second one, and the second one was good, too, though. That's what I'm seeing. It wasn't received the same. The second album was nowhere near. It wasn't received. That's one of the downsides of having a hit record is people are going to look for the hit record. But I think that he should just keep all and keep it on because he's dope. Right.

He's very dope. He's very dope. I've been looking forward. Every time a date, come up, like, all right, fine, we're going to get it this time. That's what I'm like, I don't care about the gossip because I'm going to get this album regardless because I believe in his songmaking. He's talented. That's it.

If he don't get no promo, I'm going to go here what's going on. That's where I am with it And he got light eyes But I don't think I think Oh you're a eye person I do My mother never all

Have light eyes Except for me I used to be very angry About it Get the color contacts Like issues to wear Why the fuck What he did color contacts

Because the hazel shit Didn't always get it done From some bitches They went green I mean they go from hazel to green Sometimes bitches It's laugh in his face Get out of here

Pretty boy sucker When he goes from tropical islands They go a little blue That's the Warner This thing is beautiful Anyway, without talking to anybody, I can imagine people on Atlantic trying to do the little Uzibert. I can't see it.

I can't get music done. There's a bunch of new niggas over here. His fucking OG son is over here running around like, yeah, get me the fuck out of town. Yeah, get me out of here. Atlantic people, if I'm wrong, call somebody phone and know me. Not mine, but somebody's song. Somebody else. Pat past the message.

that way. Yeah, for sure. All right, what else matters? What else matters? New music? Can we talk about music? We can do new music. Whatever that toothy shit is up there. Oh, that's actually good. Yeah. That's actually good. I don't. I got to relax. Why it's more than to read stuff?

New music. I think the headline for me was gangster girls. It was the game. Yes. For sure. Finally. Finally. We got a new game project, game, DJ drama, Mike and Keys. What was it? Every movie needs a... Every movie needs a trailer.

Yes. Every movie needs a trailer. I got through, because it was saying way too late, I got through about 11 songs, and I am heavily fucking with this. It is old-school, like, beats. I love this whole album. I listen to the whole thing already.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mike and Keys absolutely bodies it. Game was going crazy. There's a lot of different pallets on here. There's some kind of boom-bapy stuff. There's some West Coast stuff. some of the mixes were his voice sounded a little money to me but maybe that was just me on my little speaker this morning so let me not pick that apart this is really dope game really doesn't miss on on projects at all this one is no exception i just love hearing a rap he just a rapper's rapper to me and every track

any standouts for y'allown emojis i love clown emojis yeah was the one right out the road well can y'all play some of that and i don't want to hear some of the assassinations of it Oh shit. That's not a really long intro. You want to buy? A couple of joints take a minute to get in. Give it that. Make it take a minute to get in.

Give it that. Make sense feel it off. Pinchinell, you got a purse from Chanel. You're spicy as hell. You say clock it. Niggas stop it. My glocks hit coffee and my foam heart pocket. Bodies in the bone yard.

I'm stone wall locked in. The long shots that's the thorn darts for some dark. Thorn Darts for Stone Jog rocking Niggas wearing skirts on earth And call it fashion Nigger wear a moose you gets no love for that shit Section full of niggas, no bitches, nigga What?

Vaping like these holes, man, who raised you niggins up? I was raised by a family of Chris and went blood. Heard McAvelli so many times I win thug, but you niggas, clown emojis. You said she's going down and show me. All right, that's hard. Yeah, that's hard.

I'm with you on the mix. Yeah, he sounds... His vocal. He don't sound all the way like he's supposed to. Yeah, I really did. That was crazy. It sounds like some ruffs. There's a lot of dope shit on there.

I like the America's Nightmare. I like the Quarters of Shade. Oh, yeah, you wanted the assassination, right? I fuck with that, too. I wanted to hear the assassination record. Why is the truth black? And why are you going to be truthful with me when you lie to everybody else? Production on that shit.

Great Bees. Started with Jay. You get to your money. You must. You love you. You love you. You love you. You'd be lied to.

They wouldn't believe it happened if it happened and they were sitting right beside you. Fantasy world. Fantasy world. About a thousand people die for every dominant pearl. That mean body stacked high as condos from Zudan to the Congo. If I train you niggis today while I go out like a Lanzo, Moni Carlo, with it while is gawking blood that I can't swallow.

Hey, you know, soon as rappers die, they get a couple million follows. What's the infatuation with violence? I mean gunshotss last. But at funerals all of a sudden we get silent Land of the tyrants where murder spread like a virus And life is a bowling alley And we just in this bitch with I'm just young thugs, what we do No biggie, no bad stopicent, no commisansious,

Just empty bottles are lean, we swan diving in But I blame the media, it's cancer we live and dying in And you only get one life, you can't erase this shit And try to him. All right, all right, all right, all right. He went crazy. He went crazy. He went crazy.

Yeah, this album was great. That's all of him is great. I got a little more I was listening to it in the shower and shit, so I don't know the song titles of everything. There was one that was kind of like public enemy. Yeah, it is. It didn't pop up in like the new shit. You had to go in.

You had to go in five. Yeah, that's the, that shit. But I like that. I like that from top to bottom. Yeah, this is great. This is great. You're locking in with this one when I leave. Get the rest of it.

We got a new West Side Gun 3 pack. I haven't listened to it yet. Maybe it came out while we were recording. But I am going to check that out. There's a new Sky's new album. An Eric Serman, Dynamic Duo, album, which just sounds like what it is, and it's actually really, really dope. And another one who I don't understand what's happening with, Little Baby.

Also, he put out a five-pack, I want to say two weeks ago, called Middle of the Summer in the winter. Yeah. But he put out middle of the summer and then turned right around and dropped the leaks, which had the songs off of that plus eight more records. It's not a deluxe. It's just, now it's an album. I don't know what's going on.

But that's another artist I don't really understand I don't understand what's happening with a little baby right now. But I did get a quick skim through it and it's good music on here. I said the same thing when the EP dropped. Yeah.

I played the record with him and G. Herbo as a sleeper. Again, if it's good music coming out, I don't, whatever y'all are doing with y'all, whether it be your deal or you're working something with the label, that's fine. I don't get it. The little bio said it sounded like it was like records that were maybe SoundCloud leaks or the equivalent thereof.

There were records that came out that were never an official project. That's what the first one was. I don't get the E.B. I don't know. I'm always down for more music. For sure. I want to give a shout out to Beanie Siegel, too. Just put out a new single.

It's really a Porsche Truck Rucks single. But it came out two days ago with a little video. But I loved it because the AI was being used once again, the right way to use AI. Yeah. We get to actually hear beating Segal's voice. It sounds so clear. It sounded like it was the truth back then. And I thought this verse was dope, too.

I thought the whole song was dope. So shout out for them. You got a little bit? I got a little bit. All right, let's see. Yeah. That's dope, man. I'm not mad at that.

I love it. If A.I. can do that. It sounds great. I'm happy. Great use of. Great use. Great use. Any more music?

All right, you guys don't. Did Bismarkey drop? Rest and peace to the great Bismarkey. It might have been a posthumous project. Yeah. He just had a bunch of beatboxes laying around. Who else? Smiles and such.

Did Lozane drop something? Oh, my God. Lozzeen. He'd be on TikTok live all the time. And if you wanted, we could do it in the black fun, hunting with the top down. I know you, but if you don't know, play with Zane. So let's get away to get away. He still look good, too.

Yo, you are. Yeah, your dog. Yo, Mona. I'm gonna find a happy-end spot for women. Yo, I got you. My treat. My treat. My-dick, damn.

I think it's just an act now because I'm on the day. She had a nigga on the air mattress. Oh. You put something through the air mattress? She had, she pulled the air mattress out of the closet. Had a little something there, walk to the bathroom. You put the niggas through the air mattress? I'm off the air mattress.

Right on a close. That's a lot. Make some noise. Thank you. Got to do it. Because that's awkward when you're on the phone. I got two part of the shows for y'all. Okay.

All right. All right. Michael says, I am not ready. Hey, you guys. Longtime J.B.P. fan and ice, give me some glass house versus a nigger. I need some guidance and advice. My ex is pregnant and it's mine.

We've been on and off again for eight years. And each time it escalates. Oh, Lord. It's escalated a lot. Right. Two of which times resulted in her and I going to jail on separate occasions. Oh, shit. Okay.

This last time, she was struggling bad, y'all. And I had been the last arrest. So you said, fuck it. I felt as though my actions caused a chain reaction that resulted in her being nearly homeless, addicted, and fighting for survival. God damn. Me trying to help, moved her in, moved her in with me, funding her, and thankfully getting her sober.

That's dope. However, in that time, Daddy wouldn't got a cookie out. Come on. Come on. I mean, we see where this was doing. However, in that time, because the dope bad bitches look good

if they're in your house. If they're in your house and left their habits outside, you're on Papa. And he cleaned up. Yeah, you're going to pop her. Smelling like dove. Let's see.

She's showering down and shit. Come on. Look at you, girl. Girl. I'm your electric. She's got love you a little extra, man. It's like a... I have love her, but we are not meant to be together.

I guess I'm just asking those who have experience. How do I raise a child with someone I know I don't have a future with? I feel like that's a good. Watch your fucking mouth, Nick, and it's part of the show shit. And I do want to add, I have my own vices as well, and I'm not trying to paint her as a drug addict who needed help and is now pregnant. Exactly what you see. Yeah, you didn't paint.

You know, Mark. Brody. Yeah, that's 4K. Both of us wronged each other, and now we're connected for life. I appreciate all of you. Call me if you want. I'm him over there, so I can take a call. I like that.

The questions came too late. It's too late. The baby coming, nigga. Just speaking about the child, man. That's the answer. That's it. You can absolutely raise a child with somebody who's not for you. It ain't about you anymore.

Just raise the child. Oh, I mean, yeah, you can do that. or that's the other plus about having a baby with a dope baby. Like, you can go to court and just say, yo, look at her. Well, she clean now. Oh, my God. And he's got his voice. She might go to court and say, look at him.

Yeah, yeah, that's true. Hey, don't listen to me. Careful what you ask for. Don't listen to me. Distinguish panel. Y'all fix them up. The next one's a doozy. I'm doing two part of shows.

Okay. Help the brother out. That was a help, man. I don't got no kiss. Break up with her. Whatever y'all supposed to be doing, don't do it. that and just rate, the quicker you can get to the place where y'all just raising a kid together, the quicker you'll be happy. Because if you keep going back and forward for her, that's it.

And I don't care how, well, let me not say that. Yeah, I'll leave that part. Yeah, because it's clear this is not the person for you. Y'all going to jail now and shit. Like y'all, yeah, again, it's a kid now. Get away from her as fast as you can and focus only on raising your child together. That's it. Time to grow up. That's all I got for you. I got an elevator coming to work. It was this guy in there on some business casual jeans, little light sweater, had a handbag and all that. You know, I'm talking to you. You know, I'm like, hey, good morning.

He said, you look great. He says, yeah, man, 67. I said, 67, you look amazing. What's the secret? I'm such a bitch. You tried to bag him? He said, I'll be like, this guy gets out of him. He said, I'll be on.

Go ahead, get your shit off. Get your off. Get, yeah, get, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He says, I'll tell you what the secret is. no kids I said brother that'll do it

he said up out and no wife again just some good girlfriends gay that's hate that's your mom mom I'm a joker I'm a manna

shit you think that's gay no no I don't think it's gay I just think that you think he was gay because he was too excited to get them compliments by some random

nigga and hell of him Let me think about it. You in the elevator with him, you know, making your best move, your best language. I mean, you're telling him he looked good. He ain't got no kids, no wife. Most people who's 67 with no wife and no kids. It's usually a reason. That's all I'm saying.

Maybe his choice. I'm not going to lie. I've met a lot of stressed out gay people in my life, so I don't know if that theory quite follows. I'm just saying, I haven't met. It don't be all hunky-dory over there. I'm not saying the gay people are happy. I'm just saying, if you meet a, women tell me this all the time, they meet a dude over. 40 who's never been married, never

lived with nobody, don't got no kids. Corey, oh, he's got a kid. He's had a room, man, too. And Corey's got a kid. He does. That's what I'm saying. And it's not wrong with you. I'm just saying, yeah. Me and Mona think he's gay.

He didn't the elevator flirting with Joe. Well, that's the other thing. He's flirting with Joe in the elevator. Yeah, like, come on. Joe getting on the elevator. We're going to meet furt back. 67? You look great in the morning. Sixth.

Yeah. I'm on to my second. part of the show. Yeah, telling the man he looks great in the elevator. What's your secret? He goes, 67. Yeah, that's all that's, yeah,

it's not wrong with it. I like it. Joe might have added all that sauce on it. My man might not have said it in that manner. I have another word for why y'all think the way you think,

but I've said it too much this month. So I can't. Okay. But it's poor. This is it. I got sure. I should have a compliment. That name is.

look like he was walking to his brand new porch or old collectible porch that nigger you would have said it to him too we had a scarf some gel moose in his ear he was killing 67 i'm a huge compliment i'm joking i always cop a guy right um this next one is from crystal was that in christmas yeah it's from crystal crystal says if your partner lost their memory today and you had to remind them of who you were and y'all's relationship what would you tell you them and would you leave some stuff out? Can you read that one more time from me? If your partner lost their memory today and you had to remind them of who you were and y'all's relationship, what would you tell them and would you leave some stuff out? That's deep. I'm going to answer the second part.

Yes. I would definitely leave some stuff out. There's a lot. One million percent. I'll just tell you. You'll never know again. It never happened. Sorry.

It ain't in my phone no more. It only happened because you remember. I don't think I'll leave nothing out That's a tough question Oh here comes perfect white man again Here he goes I'm gonna tell you everything Stress free life

Um If your partner lost in memory today And you had to remind him of who you were I would try to just move forward I'm daddy I would build up a character Of a great great bitch I wouldn't like why not

You know what? You don't get a second chance of what Exactly I'm like what I'm reminding me all the shit I'm not everything. I'm like cold spring water on a hot day, baby. Nah, I don't even know how you would possibly remind them who you are because those experiences make y'all.

You know what I'm saying? Like, that would be a hard one. See, I think that's where you tell them the best. Like, you don't know to say it out loud, but like think about like the best moment y'all had. Can't film. And we going down. Yeah, we can paint the picture. I'm going to.

We actually got the pictures. Hey, look, this is what we did this. Look, let me show you. This is us. baby look this is it right you ever have someone tell you like a dream yeah yeah that shit is boring as fuck you can't just go tell me you know it was beautiful

this one time one third river falls and we jumped in there she ain't got no memory she might be looking for that shit this sounds like a um like a 90s movie remember those movies the 90s where the wife Eternal Sunshine of Spouser that was my shit I don't know I'm talking about more sillier lowbrow movies

the one that comes to mind wedding crashes the mom loses her the mom loses her memory and the dad has the whatever, whatever, you fucked it up. We did, right? Yeah. If y'all don't know the movies, I'm talking about. You didn't have cable.

Yes? You don't have cable. The cable movies was different than what they? Goldie Horn, joint. Goldie Horn, thank you, is. He wouldn't say. It was a Goldiehorn. You're Goldiehorn.

That's a good movie. Thank you. And Kurt Russell is exactly. Silly-ass niggas. Niggas. Crazy. Yeah, that's hard. If my partner lost their memory today, shit.

Is it too you? Hi, I'm Parks. I'm saying, nigga. No, no, no, I'm chilling. I thought this was a real good question. I wish I had more to offer on the topic, but I can't even imagine a day. There you go.

I can't imagine. Oh, please. There you go. Get out of me. Yeah, I'm going. Get out of me. I'm going trying to set me up. I think the hard part is, like,

You know, like, relationships all got this, not all that's not true. Damn, wait, hold up. So she lost her memory, so she only know how to... Nothing. That might be muscle memory. Wow. I got another one where, I mean,

it seemed like he's trying to diss us, but it does seem like it interesting. This might hit different. Who's this? Wesley, watch your mouth, Wesley. This might hit different, given all the recent noise about the pod being anti-academic or whatever.

But did y'all see Nipping Steel just paid $14.9 billion for U.S. steal. Everyone's asking about jobs and national security. Nobody's asking where that value actually came from. I did the research. Dog, not now.

Hey. Yo, yeah, I agree. No, not now. I mean, this sounds really compelling, but it's an end of the pond. I'm going to go to the C-SPAN for that one. It's Friday, big dog. It's too nerdy for me. Yeah, no, he went.

Crazy. He did the research. Salute to Wesley, man. Stop right there. He did call it stupid a little bit. Why would Wesley think we'd have the answer to that? Yeah, word.

What do you think about the steel industry? You know what I'm going to ask? Mr. J.B. Here's Krista with another one. And then I'm done. We can get out of here. I was watching the ditty dog

and the woman said she told her mom as a child what happened and the mom wrote a letter to his parents. I'm not buying that. That made me think we always want to automatically believe women. All right. That's not I'm done with you. I'm done with you. Try to jam me up.

reading your words. I'm going, hey, listen, good pod today. Yeah, there you go. Listen, it was a good pod. We got a street going. We got a street going a really, really strong pods.

I'm not doing this. What? Yes, we do. It's a J.B.P. Every pod is a strong pod. That's not true, but some days we have bad enough, some days we put up 30, some days we put up

22, but we put in putting up 30 every night. That's all I'm saying. It's been really good street. We're killing it. Don't you agree, Joe? Yeah, I do think that we've been killing it.

I'm sure you got to. Each and every one of us. Each and every one of us. Each and every one of us. A tune to play. Yeah. To get out of here. Yeah.

Yeah. Get us out of it, man. You all want to sing us out? No. No. No. No. No.

We're good. Yes. Thank you. Oh, we're good. Jesus. This is so much jealousy in here. It is. An envy.

This way. Oh, my God. I'm going. going on, man. What y'all doing this weekend? Anything fun? Anything I can exploit for entertainment? Tonight. Parties and events. Tonight I'm hitting Erica Badu. Her show.

Tonight, I'm going to Erica Badu's concert. There you go. Guys could dream. Right. Which, yeah. Brooklyn, Williams, Burma. Cam, yeah. That's close, Brooklyn. Are you following her show around? It's not the first time

you've been on school. No, you chose. Are you stalking this? I mean, I would, but I'm not. But I absolutely would. But me and my wife are going to check that out. And then Sunday I'm going to see Stephen Colbert and Conan O'Brien at a Prential Hall in Jersey.

Oh, that's good. You got nice weekend. Prudential Center. I'm sorry. I'm going to fuck him to Newark. It's the one thing y'all got. Oh, shit. I have a show in Tacoma, Washington.

Hey. Hey. So I'm talking about. You're going to hit the shoulder shimmy on them? Out there. No, out there, I mean. Oh, always, yes. Like, how do you come?

Like, how do you come to the stage at your shows? A normal walk? Do you dance? Do you turn it up? I promise you, I come out, they stand up, I turn around and I shake my ass, every show. Walking out that show. That ain't got up.

I just took on, I want to stop this. Because I had the phone in my hand, and I'm looking at the video with me coming out, and then all I can see is my feet. And I'm like, just stop. Like, why are you doing this? But the Reddit boys like when you shake that shit. Oh, please.

When you shake them legs. Please. Hey, oh shit. Back region. Y'all ain't right, man. He ain't shit. No, the little legs. Get them going, boy.

Newer couch. What are y'all doing for the weekend? Anything you all can shit? I'm not doing that damn thing this weekend, man. I wish I was having that type of weekend. I'm tired. I'm burnt out. I'm not doing shit.

You're going to make money. Can't be mad at that. Yeah, you can't. Yeah, you can't. Yeah, I ain't made at all. But I need one. You can make some money this weekend, too. I'll put the calling.

They'll pay. Just don't say, They'll pay. Yeah, I didn't even listen to them. Pay for some of that. You got that nigga, number off the elevator? In the corner of shit.

Nice for first. Yeah, man. Yeah, it's cool. Do you have any friends? Park, what you on? I'm chill. I got a couple events and parties I got to go to. I'm tired of events and parties, but tis the season.

So, fuck it. You got to the season? No, I'm not getting paid for these parties. They're like house warings and birthday parties and. That's the shit that you don't really want to go so much. You got to go? I mean, I want to, but I don't want to. cold out now. It's over for that run around shit.

But. Corey, I want to ask what you're doing, but you better have bought the sign that do not disturb. Don't want. Just for the sock of the doorker. Yeah, you do. You're tough. Sock on a doorknob. Old school.

That's old school. That's for the niggas that was fucking a lot. Or just niggas that lived alone. Had a couple of hours. It's all right, though. Listen, man, this part was great. Hopefully y'all have enjoyed this. What do you do this weekend?

Fuck. You're going to dodge the fun? Yeah, what's the line up? Fun reporting. I said my dad, the next ticket, so I'm chilling. Oh, okay. I'm chilling. I ain't got too much going on.

Niggins said, what's the line up? What's the line? Yeah, that's a shame. One day I'm going to expand my... It's a shame because you knew the line up. Word. No, he knows. Like, I actually, you know, that shit trash tomorrow.

He knows. He knows. He knows that she trashed tomorrow. That's horrible, too. I'm a change. I'm a change. Just, just, do you know the lineup, though? Yes, you know.

I can't even lie. I can't even lie. You know how Alex does, like, the album releases and single releases every week? Yeah. You got to do that for the strip gloves. You know, if you want to see go on Wednesday, is such a such. Thursdays.

New up and cover over here. That's crazy. We have a budding process. expect. Potential rookie in the year. As Maratha. Whoa, that's crazy. You're the Colombians and Queens.

It's a place for you. Listen, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows that's exactly where each one of us need to be. Until the next time, we bid you a do farewell. Adio, cerebroder, giovista, arvo. So long, goodbye, or simple head now will suffice. Remember life is a series of moments and moments pass So let's make this one last

As if it's all we have Hey And last but certainly not least After the hook, Ego Women want to travel and close-minded women want you to teach them things Grab you a talent and all you might need it Eagle Hey

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