The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 895 | "A Spirited Conversation"
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I'm not letting you all live.
I'm a man on his birthday.
I'm not letting that happen.
Nah,
not today.
No.
Y'all know, of all people,
I'm down to lie on this.
But not today.
Not on his birthday?
364 days of the year,
maybe and a half,
depending what time we get out of here.
How y'all doing, man?
Good, good, good, good.
Should we sing happy birthday, dish?
Come on,
please do my man.
Even looking a little older today.
No, for real.
Why are you looking a little more mature?
I hear you, yo, you stupid.
Like on some.
like on some your demure levels is like
on a thousand right now
with the all black too on some 50 humble
Quarter zip hoodie
On some young.
Still young.
Still young.
Oh,
but I'm young.
Forever.
You got for every young in that Serrato?
That's a nigga stupid.
Young at heart.
It's guys nuts.
What up, man?
None, man.
Good to see you.
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday, man.
Happy birthday.
Wow.
How you feeling, man?
I don't know many.
You know, you're officially eligible for AARP now.
Congratulations.
He was probably already getting it.
Scamming ass.
You've been getting on the bus for half-price.
He definitely was getting it off.
Since 24.
Getting his grand slam breakfasts is.
24 years.
Get your grand slam right.
And Denny's.
Yeah.
It's that time, darling.
You get on the bus half-phrase now, right?
You look like a Denny's-ass name.
Not me.
You're a fool, brother.
What's up, man?
Start us off in prayer.
some shit. What old niggas do?
I don't know.
Set us off with how you feel? How you feel today?
I'm cool.
Nah, now that 50. I waited. I waited 40.
No, I'm not. Stop cutting me off, bro.
All right, my bad. I'm good.
He's an elder in the room. Let the eldest speak.
Yeah, nah. He never even said that to me before.
Right.
Some old school shit.
You know.
Now, again, yo, coming from where we from, you blessed.
I lost people, a bunch of people this year in the last couple years.
So, you know, niggas that was in their 40s.
So for all of us to be up here is a blessing,
but to reach 50 years, it's an accomplishment.
No, it's a baby.
You don't know.
You're the oldest nigga I know now.
I'm saying.
You and Corey's the oldest niggins I know.
I'm serious.
Shut you.
You're a fool, you know.
This niggas an idiot, bro.
I know we're getting old.
My barber said some shit the other day.
He was like, yeah, Hove almost 60, right?
I was like, nigga, no, shut up.
Yeah.
I said, wait.
We did that.
Hold on.
Yeah.
Wait a second.
We had to Google it.
Mm-hmm.
What are the other?
56, 57?
Yeah, it'll be 57.
Yeah, bro.
Puff?
That's almost 60.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
No more Puff's name in the first 90 minutes of the pause.
I'm just saying, niggas that they was running around when we was kids.
They older.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was popping 30 years ago, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That 50 and 60 shit is dangerous.
Like a hard-knock life was 97, bro.
You get home and start doing math.
So far all?
Like, yeah, I got 11 more summers in this motherfucker.
I got to turn it up.
I got to.
Your girl in the background,
running up.
Oh, my God.
Why?
Why, I all that boy.
Yeah, what?
Your girl don't even know that you stressed about dying.
Well, God, you like that.
Be crossing your mind.
They're talking about laundry, dishes, or Aaron.
Shut up.
I'm telling you.
All right, man.
That's a different.
There's good to be here with y'all.
If I ain't do this for a living, well, boy, I'll be one angry male man.
You're on your 49th album.
Boy, I ain't going to front.
I'll be the mailman with the blicky on me, man.
Stoling that shit.
Oh, my God.
Because where are you going to bend about your fucking cheek?
Where are you going to be?
I told you, I appreciate it.
I appreciate you.
Tell you, you pumped it up, pumped it down, sideways.
Oh, shit.
Oh, man.
Yeah, that don't get sad enough up here.
I appreciate you brothers for giving me the ability to just talk shit.
Likewise.
Like that same, bro.
Likewise.
I'd be alcoholic if I didn't get to talk for a living.
Oh, my God, word.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, probably so.
Yeah.
What would you do if you were in?
Some bottom-shelf shit too, sis.
Oh, yeah.
Bricardi.
Mark could be an alky off the McCarty.
You know, I drank McAll, I went to the bar last night at like 2 a.m. by myself.
1115.
In Knoxville.
By yourself.
I landed at 11.
I got back home at midnight.
Hey, freeze.
I was at St. James Gate in Maplewood.
Yeah, you could talk into the mic, my brother.
You ain't got to tell it.
What time she thought you landed?
Oh, no, we went home first.
My wife went to bed.
Oh, okay.
We had a spirit of discussion.
We had a spirit of discussion and I went out before to get a,
yeah.
Oh, that's some old school shit right there.
The old bowl of chain got me tight.
I'm going to go to the bar.
We had a spirit in a car.
We had a spirit in a car.
I was like, they're going to take a drive.
I need a scotch.
Well, I went to the bar, and I was, first of all, I played myself
because I was wearing a JVP hoodie.
Oh, shit.
What a jerk.
I wasn't thinking.
I got, it's like, I don't wear JV, it's like fraternity stuff.
I don't wear it because I don't want people to walk up to me.
It's a conversation, please.
Have a conversation about it.
Yeah.
I can least pretend up because people ask me like, I don't know.
J.B.
No, I just look like him, right?
It's all the time of all.
It's all.
It's all.
I got a scout and I have a haircut.
You know what I mean?
So I get there and I was about to order my Bacardi in coat.
And I had your voice in my head.
Time out.
Time out.
You went and gave a speech in Knoxville with no haircut.
They don't pay you more for a haircut?
Get them niggins they money back.
Oh.
Well, no.
That's his big educated look on some Eric Benetian.
Oh, Jesus.
Well, Hope don't get a haircut.
He said, I'm in my album mode.
All y'all be on his dick.
But when I go outside.
He's in the studio.
Yo, you outside.
Wow.
Yeah, I couldn't get my hair cut on Monday
because something had with my barber or something.
I don't know.
Some shit happened.
You should have.
You and Iceby had in all types of barber issues.
My barber just...
That's plan B, bro.
You could have called me, Monday.
I know you know plan B.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
You should have stocking them motherfuckiness.
Oh, oh.
I ain't slept in three days, dog.
I got a little bit asshole.
Just mean by.
Oh, man, you went to the bar
And so I was like, if I order Bacardi right now
I'm, if I, I was embarrassed.
Y'all embarrassed me.
You should be, yeah.
I ordered McCallan's 12.
Bullion works.
Yeah, bully.
I ordered McCallon.
Wait.
Wait.
What did that wrong too?
You ordered a 12?
12's not bad, Mark.
It was what was right in front of, I.
Yo, fam, you cannot order a 12.
Did they have anything else?
No, 12's not bad, man.
When I walked in, I saw, I saw Bacardi.
It's better like doers or some shit.
Right. And I looked right in front of me and it said, McAllen's 12. I didn't ask for nothing else.
I mean, I actually have a decent collection of liquor.
When you looked to the left or right of the bottle. Did you see some other numbers?
Did you see any other numbers?
12 was in front of me. It was 1.26 a.m. I wasn't really worried about the flavor.
And that spirited conversation was whipping your ass still.
Oh, that said me the choke hole.
What was up there? I just got a MD 2020 right there.
You got the 18, mama? Man, give me some unlady.
It don't mad.
Do it really matter that much they are?
Yeah, a little bit, but it's fine.
Maybe coming off a spirited conversation?
Yeah.
Maybe not.
At the house, yes.
I wouldn't serve nothing that I, you know what I mean?
But at the...
I'm just proud of you for not getting the McCarty personally.
Thank you.
It's growth.
It's growth.
It's growth.
It's a step in the right direction.
That's right.
And you had just, because I'm...
Pardon me.
I got to catch up.
I'm slow this morning.
You had just landed and then had the spirited conversation?
Oh, yeah.
I landed at 11.
Got home at 1140.
Educator beef.
Educator B.
Your data said it's not correct.
Two PhDs, a little 14-letter words, just flying.
Yo, what you was out there, you was out there,
that's a great conversation.
Yeah, no, it wasn't the educated of the conversation.
It wasn't like no big deal.
We're good.
It just was what them spirited combos you have sometimes.
I get it.
Sure.
Well, I'm glad you made it.
Tennessee volunteers.
You didn't cut the camera on for that one?
No.
You know, that won't make the pod.
No.
Darn it.
You know what, though?
I just subbed.
Right.
That's what it's going to take.
So you were in Tennessee and off my issue were saying you were in Tennessee at some point?
I wasn't listening.
Yeah, I was, yeah.
For a week.
For a week.
You know, we see him last year.
Look, you know, this Bregal old arrested development.
How are you going up in Tennessee in Knoxville for a week?
I went out there looking at some property shit.
The answer is in the question.
I must have missed it
No I was out there on some
Looking for scouting
Yeah
Talking to Mike
You're looking at some shit
You went to Knoxville
To interview some
To interview people
No looking for some property
I was looking at some shit to buy
Oh like you need to see it in person
Like you seen it on show already
You fucking ain't right
How long that took?
Two hours
A couple days
Did you make the purchase?
No
Still thinking
right.
Probably got to see it again.
Numbers ain't make sense.
At least two more times.
Probably got it.
Probably got it out there.
A couple of times.
All right.
My question to anybody who wants to answer,
is bitches out there?
It's bitches everywhere, Joe.
It's bitches everywhere, I think.
It's a major city in the United States.
You ain't seen that, right?
Your brain don't register.
All those chromosonal differences.
Yeah, that's big.
Convo is within his hands.
He's got to be careful.
He got to.
She got him shell shock.
Dead ass, I didn't, I flew out at 6 a.m., got there.
I spoke at noon, and I was on a 5 o'clock flight back.
I literally went nowhere but the airport, the campus.
That don't sound like the first time you said, though.
How long did you speak?
It started a little if he, but he cleared it up.
How long did you speak?
About 35 minutes.
It were well.
Oh, that's weird of trouble lie.
It were well.
About 500 people showed up.
It was a great speech.
Shout out to the University of Texas.
I mean, University of Tennessee, Knoxville.
Great.
Great time.
Get it right, buddy.
And all the people out.
there, apparently there were men and women.
I don't even see gender.
So it's a construct.
So I don't know who was in the line.
I don't know who asked for pictures.
It's a consulate.
I don't know none of that.
There's that style.
You had a meeting greet?
Yeah, I love meeting green.
Yo, one woman did walk up.
Yeah, she's mad at shit.
She walked in me, said, give me a car.
I don't have a car.
She said, give me your phone number.
I was like, no.
She got mad and shit and stormed off.
People would be bold in meeting greet's now.
Yeah, but, you know.
That's all she asked for?
I don't even remember, man.
I was so busy to teach him.
No doubt.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, but something woke the spirit.
Yeah, he was teaching.
Had to go find some spirits and woke the spirits up.
It's okay.
It's okay.
I'll wait.
I sobbed, so I'll see it whenever.
Did you?
Whenever.
No, I didn't say it.
That's for the show.
I got like six subscribers.
I noticed what people are.
Oh, please.
Buddy, buddy.
In fact, I don't know anybody here is subscribed.
There's no one up here subscribed?
I used my alias.
This isn't the most.
How is it?
John Steederman.
That's the great answer.
Joe Pacheco.
Nice.
Yeah.
Appreciate y'all.
Well, I look forward to having an amazing show with your brothers.
Like us.
It's going to be great.
We all have to a good start.
We are.
Yes.
You're a head.
You're a lot of silence.
Right.
Moa on a silence.
Listen, I, Mona has the room and the space to be Mona.
Gotcha.
And sometimes.
Sometimes that me?
You can walk them.
That's my girl,
that's my girl.
I can't wait to have that space.
You won't have that space.
Oh, man.
Whoa.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, now.
Now you can put a matter of fact.
y'all don't want a braw me
run a charred done of y'all take it all run it all
actually just a funn it all let me talk to y'all done it all
ah no i a ah ah ah ah no
holley still stack it if the bee's still cracking
you just ain't one prying for that billy jean jacket
don't smoke no pop neither
I'm thinking your hot people
they're a lotch leader
hold the drapes up make the tape up
tell your face up I fuck with more power
it makes up you go
I'm a party for the brother
Just a minute but I feel sorry for your mother
I kill like the great stoo
Stay weird for a minute.
He was only eight, but I hate kids.
No castes think the experts.
Mic check one, one, two, one, two, one two, one two, one two.
Wake it up out there.
I'm ready to start.
Take a lock on the cage, because I'm ready to box.
And niggas don't know when it's on.
Niggas don't go when it's on.
Mugger, she's mad drunk, you know they're feeling it.
Look at your niggas, got I'm thinking that the hill.
I hear that, but don't go near that.
You better fear that.
You wouldn't want that.
Down the house, but the pool, right.
Don't make me back
Why you fuck with your sister
You got me?
Yeah, I mean?
Old school shit
Don't know it's gonna get you fucked up
A look at you's gonna get you stuck up
That's what I thought
Duh man, that's for sure
Kill her
Killer
Diff's up
Dumpin' Duh
Dumpin'in' mine
I really make cake
You could call me Dunkin'Hines
Had a drunken mine
Clubs Wobbleed out next
Whole New York City, what up, down there?
Hold on, what up?
509, yep, skip the line.
Look at home boy, yo, your bitch is mine.
Had a little knife, tried to flick and shine.
Had a big guy, click, clap, get,
don't never come, don't come.
We make this.
Woo!
Let's do it, it.
It's a shirt, come on.
Whole New Jersey, what up, down there?
What you get with you at?
I feel like you at.
Let's do this, man.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
Come on.
Yes, free forms, boy.
Fuck with me.
Hold on.
Honest, nilly.
Authenticity.
I'm on my shit again.
I don't be sitting around thinking what I could have been.
I'm gonna do it now.
I told Mama I'm gonna do what you are laying in so of course they train this throwing tiles.
Cold world I got too much style.
Designer or not.
I just pulled your bitch with no lineup and cracks.
Mic check one, two, one, two, two, one, two, one, two.
Keep his applause going for the best crew on Earth.
Okay, what episode is this?
895.
Welcome to episode 895 of the bong.
There you go.
Welcome to episode 895 of the Joe Button podcast,
brought to you by Fue by Power by Prize Picks.
prize Spies gang.
Yep.
I'm your humble,
grateful, gracious,
happy to be here,
host Joe Button here
with some really amazing
people to my right.
Our good brother,
Dr. Mark Lamont Hill,
is in the building.
To his right,
the birthday boy himself,
is in the building.
Next to him,
the freesiest of the mall,
ice is in the building.
Yo, yo, yo.
Next to him,
Big Parks is in the building.
Yeah.
Pardon me, my Gerd.
Poe is here,
Corey is here,
Erickson is here.
Tannor and Savani here by Remote.
Mona will be with us
shortly, I'm sure.
Last, but certainly not least,
each and every one of
you guys out there are here.
What's Bobineau?
Hey shit, what's going on?
Yo, I added your name, just so you know,
to the famous people's birthdays today.
There was, um, I'm not being funny, I did,
because Shadei was like the famous person today.
I looked it up to see if you were in there,
and it was Shadee, the singer.
And now was you.
I think I know if you're talking about you, asshole.
You're an idiot.
People be clipping out of context, but it's now you.
All right.
That's what's up, man.
I hear you.
Shut up, man.
I'm serious.
Bro, that's good looking out.
That's friendship.
Try to be a friend of this old-ass nigga, man.
You know, old niggas be stuck setting their ways and stuccing today.
Listen, man, what we're on today, man?
Let me know what we're on today.
Where are the pogs at?
Let me know what.
Let me know if I need to get a lie together real.
What's up?
You need to get a lot.
I need to get a lie together real quick.
I got one too tonight.
I carry the spirit of conversation in this Saturday.
Ooh, isn't that the best?
Oh, my God.
I ain't even mad to watch one.
You want to have this talk on a third with the weekend?
All right, all right.
No, I'm joking, of course.
I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking.
What we're on tonight, though?
We're good?
We're like, what?
What that mean?
You spend a night with your girl?
You're spending with, you know what I mean?
Us.
So, what type of night?
What type of night we do?
What's the time?
I think you get some work late, yeah.
You know, Joe be keeping us to going to midnight.
Yeah, yeah.
Sometimes, too.
We got seven guests.
Right.
They clip.
Yo, Parks lost it.
I ain't never seen the episodes come out.
You know, Parks fucked up.
Yeah, we had to start again.
We didn't start over.
We lost all the footage.
That's funny, yo.
We lost the fouls.
We got it had to do a whole thing over.
We didn't start the morning guy here.
We got a woodrow.
We had Janet Jackson up here.
Parks lost it.
Fucked up.
Great interview.
Somebody said.
Somebody said,
Janet Jackson.
look like Tyler Perry and I can't
unsee it. Oh shit.
Nah.
Hell no. Yes. Oh, fuck. Why'd you
do that to me?
Oh, yeah. Yo, what's wrong?
You know somebody who said that? They did this split screen?
They said, no, no, they just said it. And it was like,
there, I finally got it off my chest and I was like, oh, fuck, I read it.
Damn. I read it.
That's the worst thing I've ever heard. It is a little.
And the best thing. That's one of those,
Takashi, Erica Mina things.
Oh, shit. Why did you just do that?
You're trying to ruin my life.
This is crazy.
I had to think for Takashi.
Now I know they look at Eric. I'm in. I don't want to fuck.
I don't fuck no more.
What's wrong with this?
I haven't slept.
That's what I thought about when they said
Takashi was going to jail. I said, oh, man.
Make you a little Eric come in a face.
Boy, you better buckle up.
And take them pretty colors out.
that here too.
Oh my God.
Back to happy birthday.
That's real.
That's crazy, y'all.
I wish everybody well.
Most of y'all.
Okay.
Let me get this cute this up.
Let me cue this up so we can get right into the...
So you've got no birthday plans, man?
Nah.
At all, my nigga?
So when you leave here, you're going to drive to your house like normal.
And then what happens?
Go home and watch some Netflix is over?
Like, go on the house, kiss my...
baby and call it a night.
Yeah.
Like, just watch Matlock.
What's the weekend plans?
Because maybe you're one of them like, I'm celebrating.
Oh, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Probably celebrated in our Tennessee probably.
Knoxville.
Knoxville.
Knocked it out in Knoxville.
Yeah, you're an idiot, bro.
It sounds like you need something to do tonight.
Oh, yeah.
Got you.
I'm open.
Let's have a, yeah, we'll have a spirit of power out.
Don't play.
Some of them Reddit girls is like,
ooh, he is aging like wine.
Don't play.
You want me hit the Reddit girls?
The Reddit girls.
The Reddit girls.
Oh, man.
I always love finding out a podcaster, fuck the Redditor.
Or somebody in that ilk.
I don't know why.
I do nothing with the information, but it's just, I store it.
So I love knowing that stuff, too.
It's good to know, right?
I'd be in the DMs now, fine.
They've been sending me DMs telling me all the business.
Oh, my Lord, man.
Y'all best use hell.
Word.
Fan engagement.
Fan engagement.
Mark your research?
Marker research.
Got it.
Like Knoxville.
Got you.
Got you.
All right, with no further ado.
Yeah, man, let's get into it.
Yeah.
With no further ado.
It's not time to play.
All right.
Oh, yeah.
There we go.
There we go.
My thirst to adhere is a curse.
My life I see it in reverse.
I burst appeared in a hearse.
The job is steered to the church.
My grandkids carry the coffin to the altar as they burst in the tears from that search.
All right.
First thoughts.
Come on.
I'm not just going to let it play.
I'll start it over.
I'm going to start it over.
Ooh.
Ooh.
cold this came out the other
day the other night on the promo
well no the promo was different
then this came out yeah either way
disc two
track two sounds like a double disc
unless he's just the biggest troll ever
could be but I doubt it I doubt it
I doubt it I think he's doing double disc I do too
first thoughts when you guys heard this
up to this point
yeah up to this point not that whole breakdown
just up to this point I said okay
oh he's doing a rewind
I didn't have no
Let me see how we do it
So you picked that up
In the first
Because he says I start from the verse
Yeah you can hear from there
Got it got it got got
Got it got got
I was thinking about
I was like all right
He's not trying to make a single
Like I was thinking like he's just rapping
Like as a cold fan
This is what you want to hear
He's not chasing the hit
He's not trying to do you know what I mean
This is just vintage coal
And I loved it
That's what I was thinking actually
Just from the flow
And from the production
Or a quick point on
And I was like
Oh one of these
Nice beat.
One of these beats, boy.
Talking beat.
Yeah, you know.
I like the video.
Perse to fear through the worst.
My thirst to it here is a curse.
My life I see it in reverse.
I first appeared in a hearse.
The driver's steered to the church.
My grandkids carry the coffin to the altar as they burst in the tears from their shirts.
The tears rise to the side to the face and into the eyes is pierce and wear hurt.
Fast forward 60 years.
I got burst to the year.
My purpose is clearest to murk.
Whoever dare flirt with death, the best alive, but what you now hear is the work.
The inspiration was rare in a spurts for when it's there I'm immersed my experience of being a parent dispersed
Watching my son disappear as I stare at his birth and he returns to the wound white his stomach grown greater than girth
And then declining every time we come here to the nurse with each day the passes I can feel my career coming first
Do I took the way to remember the finger and now I'm single walking up the aisle back was to an era of dirt
Same rhymes scheme the whole record with the story that's what the first thing I heard
It was the rhyme scheme.
I didn't catch that.
I had walked away from the phone and went to, like, my closet or something.
And when I came back, he was still on the room.
I'm saying, no, he did not.
This guy's fucking ignorant.
That's tough to do.
Yeah, the first thought I heard, we were in the studio, we stopped to play, and it was, oh, we got to listen to that again.
Because it was clearly a story.
I didn't pick up on the rewind shit on the first listening.
I didn't either.
Really?
Yeah.
I didn't either.
I was just vibed.
I wasn't analyzing right on.
When I first listened to a record,
I'm not thinking about what's happening.
I'm just vibing.
See, it depends on who it is.
Like, with him, I know he's usually talking in his songs.
So I'm listening.
I can dig it.
And I was like, I can't do that with everybody.
This is, uh...
And I'm a nerd, so I was looking at the video,
and he had the ASR drum machine in there.
That's pretty fly.
Inside the kids, what happened?
I didn't see the entire.
I don't think I saw the video.
I didn't see it.
That's how the was released, so I was watching it.
I may have seen the...
promo
yeah
the car wash
was washing that car
yeah that's the promo one
yeah
I smiled
because I always
hate those fucking
I hate car washes
I watch your shit
by your shit by your
I hate that shit
be wet as fuck
when you leave out of it
I hate them
yeah
wait wait
you guys do the drive-through
shit
I wash my shit with
the
god
I go to
hand wash
there's not too
many drive
at least in my
neighborhood
there's not too
many in New York
so you got
you take it
somewhere
or you don't even
have gas station
You all are just getting used to cars
That's where my car wash is at the gas station
In New York they just started buying cars
A couple of years ago
Yeah and they about to ban the horse and carriages
Because the horse got loose on
Fifth Avenue
Not because of the animal cruelty
Right, no
Because you fucking up traffic
When has that ever stopped you guys
Cruelty
You guys
Don't love me in with those monsters
I'm sorry
Cruelty
All right back to him
Oh, the gloves, tipsy with a bitch I see clear through a skirt.
The cameras be snapping, blogs to yapping, so I'm careful alert.
Walking to my section, whisper right in my ear and we flirt.
We're parked with point waves.
I see it from a distance.
She stands with a smirk.
Oh, my God.
I had a good time with this too.
I stopped to wonder what J-Cold flirting was like.
Nah.
Because he's such a visual artist.
So when he's saying this, and I remember going to his show in Brooklyn.
You're rapping.
They were all there.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
They were all.
Don't think I'm making a joke.
They were all absolutely there.
Yeah.
Yeah, but cold flirting is hilarious.
It's kind of funny.
I didn't think about it that way, but it's kind of funny.
Yeah.
Right in my ear, we flirt with part ways.
I see it from a distance.
She stands with a smirk.
Cheers to the perks with the squad.
We live for the search of new holes.
Lusty cook to fuck me and the wearer they work.
We need a club job to the show and I swear it it's turk.
It all begins with encore.
Cheers from those wearing my merch.
Fast forward.
through years of rehearsal, losing.
Nah, never mind.
It's really hard to do.
No, I'm wondering if after the encore,
the chick's wearing his merch is coming.
Like, I'm just still trying to figure out
if he's still going off the flirt.
No, no, no, no.
He left the show.
He going to the new spot thinking,
I wonder if it's going to be some girls there.
Then he gets to the new spot.
He sees the chick across the room.
They exchange the little smirky smile.
And then he keeps going.
Bingo.
That shit is, it's really hard to do.
That's some, five.
Your Dreamville niggas ain't fooling me.
I'm back to the song.
I'm back in the bank account thinning.
Income streams nowhere near is diverse.
And though I'm blessed, I see me stressing from hearing the turps.
And they say it's lonely days later I don't care to convert.
On cloud nine now signed to my hero.
God, what is the so-called king to this rap thing that I spread to you search.
Yes.
Yep.
Am I overreacting?
No, you're not.
Nope.
You're not.
I didn't think I was either.
You're not so-called?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You put that in there for a reason.
Parks, tell us we're wrong.
What's the reason?
Bring that back.
I missed it.
Gotcha.
I'm signed to my hero.
Now sign to my hero.
One of the so-called king.
Two only days later, I don't care to convert on Cloud 9.
Now sign to my hero.
One of the so-called kings of this rap thing that I swear to usurp.
Decade a mama.
Got to get a shot?
What of those so-called kings that I'm going to usurp?
I don't know.
I feel like that's a rhyme scheme thing.
No, you got to find.
There's a play on his words because ain't no other kings that is rap thing, them siblings.
It's a big one.
But he, it's a play.
Okay.
Tine it with that.
Where did that come from?
I don't get it.
Arkeek.
He's used that.
Fines two other syllables.
Right.
You know a lot of words.
He could pick something different.
And if I'm repeating that.
You know we're going to be doing this when we're tying it to that.
Yeah.
All right.
Now I got you.
You can't talk about your serpent kings.
If you are gifted.
gifted enough to do what he just did,
you could find two other words
instead of so-called.
In what world is so-called not a shot?
I'm down to be reaching.
You so-called engineer.
But also, let's not keep the word usurp.
Yeah.
To me, it's the so-called end of usurp together.
See, usurp, I didn't pay no mind
because on some rapper shit,
we all have to.
You should usurp.
We should usurp.
Yeah, the combination, right?
It's a combination.
account thinning income streams nowhere near is diverse and though I'm blessed I see me
stressing from hearing the turps and they say it's who only days later I don't care to convert
on cloud nine now signed to my hero one of the so-called kings and this rap thing that I swear to
you search decade later mama cut on the cable my motivation to be brave yeah I'm rolling so you didn't
have to so-call you didn't have to you ain't have to so-call and and wait before we do this
let me let you all know that for me
In my head, top of the conspiracy list is I wish I knew what was going on between J. Cole and J. Z.
I've been saying that forever.
These are two brothers that are holding it down in terms of whatever happened.
Yeah, solid is solid.
It could be nothing happened.
But boy, are they holding it down?
Boy, do I wish they would stop.
But that's the dope shit.
Let's say nothing happened.
You wouldn't know.
And that's how it's supposed to be.
I don't know if anything happened.
it might just be a, you know, every rapper starts off wanting to be signed to someone.
And then once they start getting a lot of money and accolades and all that shit,
they no longer want to be there.
The guy that signed the dude don't want to let you go because you're making me a lot of fucking money.
I don't think it's really that deep.
I don't think it's probably venom, but they probably had a butting of heads at some level.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did anyway.
Hmm.
It happens every single time.
I agree with that part.
But I also look at like just the lack of them doing shit together.
I think that could play into it.
If I'm Cole, I'm signed to you, I'm your understudy, I'm the X, Y, Z.
Come on, nothing really.
They did, they did.
When he was still signed to him, but they haven't since he hasn't been signed to him.
So at that point.
Very minimal.
Very minimal.
But even back then it was very minimal.
He had him on, Hove had him on his album.
That's a big deal.
And he was on, his first single.
That's a big deal.
They did work.
Yeah.
But so even when he was signed to him, it still was.
You're talking about?
You're talking about back in the day?
Yes.
Oh, nina.
He's saying that they never did know.
No, they say never.
I did not say.
Minimal shit.
But it's not minimal if you're...
Hope don't have many features on his albums, really.
I'm not saying that those earlier features were minimal.
They were very important in whatever plan that they had gone.
And it worked.
I just feel like if you saw the backstage shit or whatever doc that was where
Hove was like the boy eating the cereal.
Like if your story starts from there and then you find this dope-ass kid from North Carolina,
you all break all types of boundaries, y'all sell all the...
these, y'all do it.
Y'all do it.
Even if
mutually beneficial
is what I'm saying for both.
Yeah.
Whenever it ends, that's what I'd be saying,
yo, when any business relationship ends,
if it was mutually beneficial
and we all happy,
it should be no bad bucks.
Let's go our separate ways,
but yo, let me buy you a drink
when I see you in a club.
Yeah, absolutely.
Let me put an ad lib on something.
Send me a record, let me hear it.
Like, you don't seem closer to push your tea.
You know it don't really work.
It don't work that way very often.
I know.
And I guess I'm just disappointed.
That's all.
But bigger than that, they both are so quiet and mysterious that that could be happening and we would still be none of the wiser.
That's true.
He might have sent this nigga the whole album like, yo, I'll honor your opinion.
Let me know what you think.
We would never know because they both carry it like that.
That's about it.
Very true.
Huh.
Until they hit a booth.
Well, not cold.
Colby holding it down.
Kobe holding it down.
J. Z.
if this is something
we'll know
we won't
this will not be the last time
we've heard about
so called
now I'm thinking about this again
when he's telling us
this is gonna be like
when he did that
I'm sorry Mark
it's gonna be like
when he did that
what was that
bird man
and somebody said some shit
and then he starts
talking about the art
in the house
and you got repoed
and nobody knew nothing
it's like
yeah
it's good
maybe I'm doing
some fan obsessive shit
right now
I'm thinking about
this thing also
he's telling the story
backwards right
so what life
stages when he's saying so-called kings um he said i'm signed to my hero so i'm so-called so-called so is he
just saying i'm trying to give him look at it more generously no if he was already a hero then he was not so-called
no no what i'm saying is though is he's just said as a young hungry rapper i was trying to take everybody
down there's no point in j cole's rap life that that hove was so-called no but i'm just saying like
well he might know he was so-called or in the 90s in the 90s 7 98 i'm sorry when he said biggie jzy
or naz it was so-called it was a fight going yeah but that was where i'm
from. That's like you said, that's the 90s.
But I'm talking about when Cole came out. I'm just saying, is he being
self-critical? Like, yeah, I was a young, cocky
dude that thought I was calling him so-called back then.
That's what I'm saying. That's nice. That's a nice
angle that my brain would have never came up with.
But no, but you can't say that and say he's already my
hero. If he's already a hero, he's no longer so-called.
Well, unless you think you're the king.
See what I'm saying? Like, I'm about to edge his name out,
taking it back to the where I'm from reference, right?
I'm not mad at that. I'm just saying it's another way to think about.
I don't know if that's what it was, but.
I don't know.
I know Coach's not enough to know that so-called is going to have people take it.
That's true, too smart.
Of course, I agree with that.
I'm just saying it might not be as ill as I thought when I first heard it.
Not I'm thinking about the son.
And you know what?
I'm going to give Jermaine Cole the benefit of the doubt because I have to factor in his last year and a half.
And his apology and how he feels about he's one of the more mature guys out there.
I'm not going to put that on him.
That's for us sleaze balls.
That's what I'm saying.
That's for us.
I think he might be something with that line.
I don't think he would do that.
He's not the one coming out after that, after the pulling back of the trail.
To throw a shot at Jay.
That's what I'm saying.
I think he might be being self-critical right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I take it back.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, I'm on bullshit.
All right.
Fuck off.
Ends the moment I'm here in a purse.
I'm going shorter pepers cover my high quarters.
I watch my father walk back in my life and it clears up a hurt.
And that ain't even about to throw a shot on the rewind story.
Yeah, no, no.
Your brain is so gone.
on some deep, my kids, my life in reflection.
Strictly runs.
The summation of shit.
Yeah, I'm just nice.
Like, I'm not doing this in the rewind track.
Yeah, no.
Hey, Mona.
Hey, guys.
Hi, Joe.
How are you?
How are you?
Good.
We're good.
We're good.
We're just going over with Jake Cole song.
That's the first thing on the board right there.
You look great.
I see.
I'm not a big cold fan.
Okay.
My high quarters, I might my father to walk back in my life and it clears up a hurt.
I couldn't explain.
Mama gives me my name
that hands me over to the doctor
And I watch is my spirit reverts
Then I'm no longer hair on this earth
You don't longer hair on this earth
Tats here
Yes sir
I love this
Bye
Muggum
Noghna Nogna Ngo button
Let it rock for a second now
I am I got you
Bucky
Woof
Once again
Who the fuck is you?
Out of way is a real nigga coming through.
Out of way it's a weird nigga coming through.
Computer style of the unibrab, unibomber.
Who maneuver through the drama with the suit.
That is absolutely ridiculous.
That's what got Jesus.
Yeah.
That was nuts.
And that goes to my dead president's loop thing.
Well, I keep reusing the same piano loop
and there's another perfectly fire, sad, melancholy piano loop
that you could have used and he did here.
Can't wait to hear whatever disc and track number that is in its entire.
I like anybody that's showing their appreciation to all at Memphis, get you rowdy shit,
and Jay Cole does it a lot.
Mixed with some mob.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mix with some mob.
Question.
As serious as can, sir.
Double disc.
I think Jay Cole is capable as anybody of making an amazing record,
or make an amazing album, and I think you will.
I'm looking forward to this based on what I heard.
But when you start talking about double discs, you raise,
the degree of difficulty considerably.
I mean, I don't know.
And it feels like every major rapper
who wants to be in an all-timer,
does the double disc at least once.
Hove did it, Naz did it, Pock did it, so forth,
and so Biggie did it.
Wu-Tang.
That's actually one of the ones I think worked.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, there's only a few that I feel like
are really classics.
Double disc.
Biggie Pock and Woo.
Yeah, that's it.
Y'all got Wu forever as a classic.
Although I don't think it's perfect
by any sense of the imagination.
Yes.
It's an elite double disc.
It's an elite double disc.
Most people are like...
It ain't classic for me, but it's up for me.
Could they have trimmed three or four solos off and it would have been a more concise, better project?
Absolutely.
But I think it's impacting time.
It's four and a half mics, for sure.
Yeah, don't mic system me.
That's just how my brain work.
Oh, my lord.
That was horrible.
I'm old.
Yeah.
But the company excluded.
Like, I'm, I'm...
For me, it's like a four and a half range.
Most people, again, like, Blueprint 2 wasn't that.
No.
You know, Nise didn't have that.
Blueprint 2 could have been an EP.
they actually went and did.
Blueprint 2.1 was fly.
He said EP.
I think it was 10 songs, but anyway, like 2.1.
The first five songs are cover songs.
Anyway, I mean, a lot of trash in it, but at least 10 good songs.
Oh, yeah, definitely a whole of text.
Sorry, I mean, he knows it.
He put out Blueprint 2.1 and fix it.
Anyway, point being, like, most elite rappers have tried it.
Most don't make it there.
So I'm just saying, does that scare y'all in terms of the fact that it's a double disc?
No.
I know.
No, I think if it's done right in, you know,
would say,
leaning towards concise.
If it's double-disc,
like 12 songs on each thing,
I think it's fine.
If you give me 20 songs
on each disc,
I feel like that you might be
doing a lot.
Not just that.
He hasn't been out in two years.
Mad shit has happened.
I think...
He also said...
He got a lot to talk about.
He also said in some of the promo
that he's been working
on this album for 10 years,
so he's been putting some shit to the side.
And it's been teased as his final album.
So if I'm going out,
I think Cole could do it.
Swing for the Fence.
Yeah, I don't ever blue.
I don't believe it.
But I'm taking that his word for now.
Sure.
I'll take it.
I'm assuming the best.
He's the one you could.
He might be the one that might be able to.
He's the one that seemed like he just want to go mow lawn somewhere.
Right.
I did all I needed to do in here.
I wouldn't be surprised that they could be in the peace corps somewhere in Tanzania.
Help it like that's just what you wouldn't be shocked.
What else does he do the accomplishment?
You just expect him to be on a bicycle.
Mm-hmm.
He's on a bike now.
Down the high.
On this Andre 3000 shit.
You just see him just pop up somewhere and just move around out.
Like it's nothing.
And I'm telling you, yo, this music business fame shit is really overrated when you're a part of it.
Yeah, I can see.
Yeah.
And you just look at it from Jay Cole's point.
What else does he need to do in hip hop?
Yeah, with and if he feel like being sassy with how y'all spoke to me this past year and a half.
You got you.
Y'all think Drake is on some sassy.
I'm going to show you guys.
I'm going to remove myself in the scene
and then watch how it is.
What if J-Koh don't like how y'all was talking?
It's possible.
But he was teasing this before the battle.
I bet he wouldn't add to some songs.
I'm sure.
Just a tip.
That's how he came with double disc.
Yeah, word.
Yeah.
You know what?
So what's the date on this?
Two, six.
Two, six.
February 6.
So, what, two, three weeks.
Three weeks.
Yeah.
Three weeks away.
New Jay Cole.
First quarter.
I want to shout out Nass and Large Pro 2
for the original rewind.
Made on the same drum machine
in the video.
Small nugget there.
You know fans like Nuggets, man.
Probably unintentional, but...
Nah, you think it was unintentional?
Probably. It's his first drum machine.
He's talked about it in interviews
and showed it in other shit, so...
I want to hear the snippet again.
I think I think I did it when Cole is intention.
Man.
Me too.
Think he just one of them?
I think so too.
That piano loop is not.
Yeah.
Who the fuck is you?
Who the fuck is you?
Who the fuck is you?
Who the fuck is you?
Out of way is a real nigger coming through.
Out of way.
Computer style of the unibrab
Unabreu-bomba.
Who maneuver through the drama with the suit.
Shout to havoc, man.
I want to be sitting.
Yes, shout to havoc.
I need that right.
I want to be sitting in front of some big-ass speakers
When that comes on
I'm not gonna lie, it's gonna make February the 6th podcast day
I'm gonna start a little late, double disc
At midnight
That sounds like a Thursday night party, buddy
Going to bed at 3 a.m.
Sounds like one of those, or waking up at 3 a.m.
Or that.
Yeah, yeah.
I wanna hear this at night loud.
Midnight, the album's in Bacardi, I'm good.
And there was a lot of talk online
A lot of talk online
I feel like with every J. Cole release
Like, you know, every hive kind of stands up.
But his hive is cool.
I feel like he dropped and then people come fuck with them.
You used to be part of that fuck with J. Cole Hive.
I got a text from his fan club.
So I think I'm in the J. Cole Hive still.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
I used to be the fuck with J. Cole Hive.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah.
Every Friday, you're right.
He was the worst.
I wasn't the worst.
I forgot about that.
You were one of the worst.
I was bad.
Bricky there, why?
Was it just more of the told shit?
It used to be such a shithead, yo.
Online anyway.
His digital footprint.
Nasty.
Covered in shit.
Did you delete a lot of it?
Yeah, of course.
A lot.
Respect.
I don't, not to get off the topic.
It's just you're such a great person.
You're one of the best people I know in real life.
I mean, genuinely.
said that before.
I appreciate that.
But he grew into that.
Oh.
No, he was always a good.
That's not true, though.
Tell Mark what you used to do to Jay Cole.
It's Friday.
It wasn't my tweet.
Someone else had tweeted.
It's Friday.
I ain't nobody trying to hit no Jay Cole.
So for like every Friday.
For 10 years.
Like three years or so.
Every Friday?
Every Friday.
Like 150 Fridays.
You just wake up and retweet it.
Like, you know what?
Like, why?
Why don't you do that?
Why would you do that?
What a jerk thing to do?
What is the name?
Nothing.
Monica Saturday.
No, this is what I want to know.
When he says, like, you're a bad person online, right?
You think you could separate that, like, be a bad person online, but be a good person in real life?
He did.
That exists?
He was a good dude.
He was just a menace on the internet.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I feel like growth.
It affects you everywhere, but there's no way you're this great person in real life and online.
You're just a nasty tro.
and if you're that person, you shouldn't be that person.
You're the first person I've ever met who's not a piece of shit.
I had a guy who worked for me in my bookstore.
I won't say his name because I don't want to embarrass Isaiah.
He was a lot.
He was a troll and he would like steal people's tweets and write them as his own.
Oh, shit.
Those are both character things to me.
Yeah, stealing is.
Yeah, but he was like, I just do it for fun and I troll for fun and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Eventually, he stole it.
He was talking about the six-in-tons.
If I see Isaiah, I'm going to fuck him up.
That's why.
You're going to fuck you up, my dad.
Same thing I said about finesse in that Monopoly game.
Shout to Finesse.
It thought I was so crazy.
My man did some slimy shit in the Monopoly game.
That shit don't, yeah.
And I was like, that's the character thing.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't like that.
I don't like to see.
A game shouldn't bring that side out of you.
Right.
They joke.
It's thought I was nuts.
You did some slimy shit in Monopoly games.
Does it support his theory?
I don't really.
Or challenge the theory.
Yeah.
No, I don't know what happened in that game.
That's what I'm saying.
And I don't really remember, but I'm not against slime.
Whatever he did, it was grimy, grimy slime.
It's probably probably remembers.
You remember?
I knew he would.
What happened?
What do you do?
Y'all would like to know what the way.
The way we play Monopoly, you co-op.
Uh-huh.
Right?
And then it's terms to the co-op.
Uh-huh.
Of course.
and when the game got thick
depending those terms
oh he did that
yeah out of the terms
well it's like
it's awesome
like it's bad as hell
like oh nine
isn't that how the co-op
always goes
in the monopoly?
No no no
not in Monopoly no
no
when does the terms end
do you do you set that
when we get up to a certain point
we can disband the co-op
okay I'm just not going to rob you of
you know what I mean
like yeah
if I'm holding a problem
and I got to pay you your bread
I ain't just going to say you dead on that either
it's still ours even though only one person
for older.
And he was at that point too much
of my man and we was in my house.
I'm not getting somebody in my house.
Like me and him we had too good of a friendship
to, but anybody else, that was
anyway, back to whatever we were talking about.
No, I believe that.
Jay Cole. Some of this shit is character shit.
So yeah, ICE used to be a minister's society
and he's matured a lot and he's gotten a lot better
and he's a hell of a person and a hell of a dad.
And to moan his point, you don't see those things.
You don't see those tweets.
Does he listen to J. Cole on Fridays now, though?
No, he fucks him.
He loves Cole now.
That's why it's tricky.
That's why it's tricky to fucking with artists.
Oh, no, it's even worse than that tweet.
I remember a long time ago, I mean, this might be when him and Jay Elect had like just
signed the Rock Nation or something.
And I swore neither one of them was putting the album out.
And I'm like, yo, they ain't never dropping the album on.
I just didn't believe in Rock Nation at that time.
A lot of people didn't.
I'm not the only one, but I was very vocal about it.
I've been blocked by Rock Nation.
They didn't fuck with me for a long time.
We're cool now, but it was a long time
with Rock Nation didn't fuck with me.
And I was like, yo, remember that tweet I told y'all
that Jay Cole and J.LEC would never put an album out?
I'm right.
And that tweet was like three years after I said it.
Cole favored it to tweet in the whole shit.
And then threw some shot.
Like, like people see it.
I've learned that, yo, we see the shit you be saying.
Especially to hate.
Yeah, we'll address it.
You got a real Hall of Fame tweet resume.
No, I don't.
Honestly.
Are any positive?
Seriously.
Yes.
And it's so funny.
Yes.
It's so funny when you think about it.
It's so funny when you think about it because how you deal with trolls,
because you don't even engage with shit.
Like, ice block shit, mute shit.
You don't engage at all.
I know what trolls want.
Right.
I tell everybody.
I don't know why.
It's just like a mind fuck to me.
Probably because I'm trying.
so much happening on line so long, but I just can't believe.
Well, it's that and he's really sensitive.
No, he's not.
Are you sensitive?
Who are you asking?
Why men hate that?
Why do men hate that so much?
I don't know why.
I think that's a sign thing.
Certain signs, y'all just think.
What's your sign again?
The Gemina.
Yeah.
What's that mean?
I don't know.
Y'all don't know.
Y'all got two sides.
It means two sides.
The nigga that got dropped off to school and the nigger that's firing from his
Wi-Fi in the house.
Yeah.
I don't think I've ever met a Gemini.
It wasn't two people.
Yo, not too much of my man.
Not too much on my man, too.
Back up all of ice now.
Ice my nigga.
All right.
Good morning.
Did you wish ish happy birthday, though?
No, but I've been sitting here thinking like, yo, is it this nigga's birthday?
Happy birthday, boy.
Thank you.
My nigga.
Happy birthday.
What you doing?
Shit.
It's corny.
You got your his shit on.
Yo, just check the stories tonight.
I mean, check the MIG stories.
Are we hanging out, guys?
We might be
That's what I do
Hopefully
That's the plan
You gotta do it on your birthday
We can at least get a drink together
I don't drink
But put IG stories
You can get some pills
Yeah
Oh shit
Some hookah
You know
That's your shit
I'm saying peels
I'm sorry
That's my pills
Pills
Oh
Arch pills
Yeah
Is you never
Oh
I hear how that sounds
Having a birthday
Huka
Have 50s
No I'm not letting them do it
Yeah
Cigar
Or something
Get some head
Niggas
Dude something
You gotta do
Well we won't be there for that
A hookah
Who?
Who won't?
I'm not being the wise old ass gets dick sucked, man.
If I paid for it to get done, I'm staying.
So you get your money's worth?
Yo, he's sick.
That's your baby.
Bye, I spy.
It's a joke, man.
Stupid ass fans take me too serious.
All right.
Shouts to cold, man.
Shouts to cold.
Some other music came out.
Y'all heard that.
A sap, I did.
I got halfway through.
Listen, there's a few albums
that came out to the deal.
Yeah, it's a lot of shit.
But what you think?
So far, what I heard, I like.
I didn't, I had low expectations
for this album, I'll be honest.
Same.
He shocked the shit out of it.
Yeah, I was like, oh, shit.
He shocked the shit out of me.
Wow.
It's a good album.
There's some real good records on it.
But I am not, I'm not,
I'm knocking this.
No, there's a real good reference on it.
I don't know, 17, maybe something like.
18, I think.
Yeah.
It's like a weird double-disc situation, too,
It's like two songs on this too.
Yeah, that's something, that ain't no double.
That's a bonus, right?
It's like a video and like a, what was it?
I know you write, it's 15, and then it's 18 total.
Yeah.
But there was some tracks on here.
The two lead singles were good.
What else was here?
The little, they called the Drake disc.
Play the Drake disc, come on.
Let's just get to it, right?
Unpacked the Drake disc.
Drake this.
Drake this.
There's a couple of them.
Will that stole your flow?
Yeah, stole your flow.
You stole your flow?
You stole your B.
You know what I mean?
Go play it?
Yes.
Not because I hate Drake y'all.
Because you stole my flume.
So I stay a bitch.
This album is very abrasive.
It was not my cup of tea first thing in the morning.
I do want to listen to it again in a different atmosphere.
It's a lot like this, a lot of punk-punk-ish.
This is an album that's meant to be performed off.
Yeah, definitely.
That's all I heard.
I'm like, I'm at the show.
Well, don't y'all get some man speakers and shut up.
I don't y'all get some speakers with some umph on and turn-out.
Certain shit is energy-based.
I just don't want to hear this level of abrasion first thing in the morning.
No, I agree with you there.
But give it a go.
Give it a go later.
I'm definitely going to.
I'm definitely going to.
The beat is well produced and all that shit.
I just, first thing, six, seven o'clock in the morning, it's a lot.
I like that.
I didn't care what I thought you wanted to hear shit like that in the morning.
No.
You said you don't want to hear the soft shit in the morning.
He wasn't boom back, though, not like punk.
Yeah, not punk.
Gotcha.
There's levels.
There's levels.
First blind of day.
Yeah, now, A-Saf should exceeding my expectations.
Same.
Granted, I didn't expect much because who knew what to expect, but part me.
Yeah, some of the reviews haven't been as strong.
You know, I read some of the reviews after I listened to it.
I mean, you may not care about it.
How many bikes? Like, The Guardian gave it three out of five.
They said it was kind of meandering a little bit, almost like there was some really good shit
and some shit that, like, felt a little lost, like, sonically.
I didn't necessarily agree with that review, but I read a few more reviews anyway.
Don't repeat another Guardian review up here.
especially same day that I, that's my thing.
Fuck who reviews it.
Why am I looking at a review same day of that same day of the album?
Well, they get it, you know how to.
I assume they got it early.
Sometimes.
Let's not give all the credit in the world.
Sometimes motherfuckers do one listen.
For sure.
Oh, yeah.
Again, I thought it was first listen.
I liked it.
You know what I mean?
Not to use mics, but I'd give it four out of five something.
Three and a half out of something.
You know what I'm saying?
I thought it was solid good production.
I need to hear it again.
I need to hear it again.
I need to hear it again.
I like the Dochi record
Not for nothing
Oh that
Yes
He took other shots on the record
Do we hear that too?
Yeah but that BBL shit
Was the one
I for the street
He shot a couple times
It wasn't just that
He shot about to move to Texas shit
He shot that one
The BBL
And another one
Take care of your kids
All that I have one woman
That's player
The shots on the player record
Like he's he's shooting
Yeah for real
Do you want to hear the
Dochy record
Is that?
Yeah
Go ahead and get to go
For sure
Why not?
Very different
production style
this one.
I mean respectfully.
approach watch my black acid on this way t's
taking up space these white folks don't phase me me let's propose a toast looks could kill the
host princess cut diamonds on me so cut throat
this is crazy this is amazing this is amazing fire
you're a perfect person for that they snapped on that yeah nobody could
yeah this is my favorite track for the album yeah me too
but that was the first morning first thing in the morning listen so i might feel differently
Right
With a little more energy
Behind me
It's a couple of other joints
But this was one of them
What is this fucking
It's a
We know this
This is the thing
It's a jazz standard
It's
Mark you might know
Better me
What's it
Turn up
Turn up
Turn up
You pinch
You cheat
I guess
Honestly nigga
I had it
Just
To cry with you
Knicks
I feel like
They slowed it down
I'm bowed down
And
Man
You know
Fash or you
Nigg
It's
Thelone
You ain't got
Be my blood
B
Oh my bad
Dillone
Munk snitching butt whatever.
That shit is hard.
Crazy.
She probably is the only person
that could have pulled that off.
Yeah, I don't think nobody could do that.
Her, maybe Lady London might have got it.
I love it.
Other than them.
Like the sexy lyrics and then that little beat thing
when she started.
Like how the old school vixing shit was.
Like that's how I was saying when she started.
Hey, that's the original kid.
Hey.
Hey.
Wait a minute.
Hey.
Wait a minute.
Hey.
This is hard.
I'm such a music geek.
Yeah, we've heard this.
Yeah, it's Justin.
I feel like fucking Ricky Ricardo or some shit was dancing.
Hey, hey.
All right, I'm cool, I'm cool, I'm cool, I'm cool.
That sounds great, man.
Shout to ASAP.
Shout out of ASAP, Rocky, man.
Hell of a project to be gone for so long and kind of gone for so long
because you've popped up here and there.
As far as releasing music itself, it's been a while.
Yeah, this has been a minute, bro.
This is solid.
This is solid.
2018, that's almost 10 years, damn it, eight years.
2016
2016
2016
He's happy
He's being loved well
You see Rihanna
See how she got that
Clarissa
That Clarissa energy
Papp upstairs shit
Yeah
But I love it
I mean she loved for me
And he's being loved right
I'm happy for them
And he'll be upstairs
Real shit
He'd be upstairs
That's the whole thing
You gotta come on
She had enough of y'all
On the internet
She took the phone upstairs
Yeah I like that
And he was right there
In the dark
Watching cartoons
I love the videos too actually
Now we're talking to ASEAP Rocky
The helicopter video and the punk rocky
Those are fire videos
I don't watch videos
Me neither
I watch a lot of videos
I love videos
Especially when it's by someone that puts time into it
Like he's got art direction brain
Yeah, artists
Good point
Really really really really hard to do
Yeah
Um
One more album
Can we do one more album?
Mark me up nigga
Okay
What do you got?
I was going to say Wyss Caliph is no album, but Joe don't fuck with him.
No, I absolutely love Wills.
I'm being an asshole.
That's the one.
I actually think that album was really.
Y'all, you all hear chaotic?
I listened to a little bit of it.
I did not.
I did.
I didn't.
I see how I prays for it online.
That shit is fire.
It is a fire album.
I have one little critique, but in general, which is a couple of guest appearances I didn't love.
But Wizz is rapping his ass off.
The production is great, great songs.
It feels good.
That's a car.
That's a song.
That's an album you want to be driving down the street listening to.
This is, I feel like there's two whizzes.
there's like fun stoner whiz
and then there's like, I'm gonna show you I can really rap
and I get with it.
Whiz and this was the latter.
It's only one feature on this album that
I've been saying since he came home
I wanted Wiz and Max.
Yep.
But this was not the Wiz and Max I wanted.
Oh, I like that record.
Do you like that?
I wanted.
Let me hear it.
Oh, good.
Loaded it's not what I wanted.
Great song.
Two or three verses agree.
That's all I'm going to say.
It ain't even that for me.
It's just when I wanted Wiz and Max,
I wanted.
melodic. I want it.
That's what I want to hear.
This is kind of a lot.
Okay.
Let the verse is coming in.
Yeah, I hear you say.
I mean, Max still just don't sound like Max yet, but that's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Hey, you hear it.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Start.
This kid started.
Woo!
This whole album is.
This whole album is key.
I love it.
Like I said, just a couple features.
This is melodic to me.
Yeah, exactly.
You'll hear.
Hey.
You'll hear.
Let's talk about back specifically.
I like you can hear his Pittsburgh accent.
Yes.
Right here.
Chowles not to sing.
And he would have sang here?
I wonder why he chose not to.
Maybe he's just not there yet.
He's still getting his foot.
He's in the closet for 20 years.
Okay, get the niggins.
Like, I'm giving them grace.
I'm not.
I don't like the way they're mixing them right now either.
His voice is already raspy, but like the double is the double.
It's clashing.
It's not sounding great.
It is.
That's one of the big things that,
changed while he was gone.
His voice.
Well,
not just that,
but people doubled
diverse when he went away.
Now that's not really
how they get jiggy with it.
That was a messy era.
If you weren't tight with your doubles,
yeah, and there's a lot more tech out.
There's a lot more
amps and voice shit.
Like, he should be able to just get a clean
lead.
Yeah, clean lead.
Yeah.
He sounded like an old nigga
On that
And some of that is the production
That's what I'm saying
Like I like this
I love the song
I think
I would like to hear him melodic
Yes
I just didn't like the way he sounded
On the song
And I'm a max fan
So I want him to
Anyway
I wish that wasn't where he
It could have been so much better
Because whiz snap
Well shout to Wiz
I do plan on
I do plan on listening
That you see J record
Yeah
Loading up
That's the other one
Let me hear me
Yeah
I need to hear music
Here we go
If you know, you know
Yeah
You can cut that off
That one right there though
That's one of the ones, yeah
Yes
Yo, if that come on for my man birthday
I swear for God
I ain't gonna lie to y'all
Yo DJ, New Jersey and New York DJs
Get my man birthday playlist ready
When we walk in
You're an idiot, bro.
How do you want to shout you out
when you walk in tonight.
John, Antoine?
Don't.
It's your birthday, though.
It's that is.
It's not my thing.
That was crazy.
That was absolutely crazy.
You get a couple singles.
That song come on.
Right there.
As soon as it came on.
You got to reach it.
And you're going to throw $2 a couple singles.
You're going to look like Adam 22 in Starlight.
You played a lot of music.
Joe here, Wally, and Don Kay.
freestyle yes well hear any other now I want all of y'all to mute up is what I want
he got this one I want all y'all I want all y'all to mute up yep I know y'all don't
really get around I know y'all don't know y'all don't really be outside like that
hold up for a minute yo dog nothing needs to be said yo they don't feel me though man
honestly I wish I parted with niggins that felt me this is what I
I'm saying, pause.
It's crazy.
Oh, my God.
This is what I'm saying, man.
You've been out in the last
five, six months, but because
of fucking folded and some
other songs, like,
we ain't really talked about what this
song does, but real niggas,
no, you know Breezy was going to find out.
Please, no.
He'd be out. He'd be out.
You're thinking, and he'd be in, the kickback
be right there.
And when it comes on, all you got to
look at is every girl around
when this song is on.
I'm in a relationship.
I don't play like that.
You don't look, right?
You didn't even see it.
I look, but you can't, but you can't lock eyes.
Gotcha.
Because if you lock eyes while this song is on,
y'all got to fuck.
She pregnant.
Y'all not understanding.
Y'all not understanding
because girls know what the lyrics
to songs now.
For real, so they're staring at you.
They're like, we're going to fuck tonight.
Girls know lyrics a song now.
They start sticking their tongue out.
No, they start doing well shit.
We always knew lyrics.
They start showing you all their piercings.
It's like, oh, shit, wow.
Those are the whores, fellas.
Those are just the horrors, fellas.
If you're working in the song, come on.
Boshuanes, tell me who want to press the peevee.
I'm putting on the goal and lost make his elevator.
Moe to mute up.
This for the bitches that's fucking right now, all right?
Damn, I ain't gonna lie to y'all, man.
Just the record we needed a remix for.
With the person we needed to remix.
With the purse, yes, honestly.
I hate doing this because the fans already got me and you ice
as being the breezy stands.
Okay.
Breezy's and shit.
But listen to this, man.
They hate that on the internet.
We love Chris Brown.
Look at Mona.
I was in that breezy.
She said they hate that on the internet.
We love Chris Brown.
When you say you like Chris Brown, they go right to 2008.
It's like, girl, I don't get fuck about none of that.
I'm like Chris Brown, babe.
I like Chris.
In this Mark after the spirited conversation.
Oh my God.
With the spirit singing system.
Then you got to put the spirit something.
Make it celebrate us.
Yo, do y'all hear this?
How could you not go outside tonight?
Come on.
And it's my man birthday.
You got to go out.
Yo, your cousin did this on your birthday.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my.
Oh, that.
Happy birthday, cousin.
Where is the name?
Hold at.
Is the name Emerald Ice?
Oh, shit.
See your friends.
Try to see you later.
Tell them girls that I got friends.
I'm trying to get your legs in my hand.
I'm trying to shut you out, baby.
And running back again.
Oh, this is crazy.
This is great.
We'll talk about this tonight, man.
Don't worry about it.
Yo, new Gunner, Chris Brown remix in your phone right now.
Don't worry.
We're going to talk about it, boy.
God.
Damn.
That one right there.
Don't play with them.
From jail.
From since he came on.
They must have known videos.
They must have known it.
Right?
Like, inclination.
You know what?
Let's just throw that one out there.
Yeah, I mean, it's going to be.
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I've heard better, but
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Let's get football picks.
Worst take.
Your, please, can we keep worst take short quick and concise?
Please, yo.
The audience is large, and there's people out there that actually know sports listening to us.
We sound dumb as hell.
Let's just keep the 10 seconds.
I'm going to, I'm, I'm picking the Texans.
Same.
I'm picking the Texans.
I am.
Same.
I have Patriots.
The Pat's got to show me.
I had the past coming out to the AFC.
Now, Sam Donald, they say is.
Oblique is strange or something.
They say he's going to play, I think.
At least if that's going to.
If he plays and the Seahawks are the Seahawks, then they should beat the Niners.
Yeah.
If he don't play, then I might.
If you don't play, I'm picking the Niners.
Yeah.
Definitely.
But I think he's playing.
The Knawks.
of one of them teams that even though they got 100 injuries,
it's not going to happen.
They're going to play hard.
I'm going Buffalo.
I'm picking with my Super Bowl matchup of Buffalo versus the Rams.
I'm going Buffalo.
You're going Rams too?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I'm going Rams.
And I'm going Rams.
And if I wasn't going Rams before,
it's been announced that Sean McVeigh,
head coach of the Los Angeles Rams
is really, really, really, really, really,
really good friends with Matt LaFleur.
Yeah.
Of the Packers.
They're all the Shanahan tree.
Okay.
But there clearly was Ben Johnson, Matt LaFleur beef at the end of the Packers game.
That was highlighted.
Okay.
So he's inheriting the beef.
He's inheriting the beef.
There was Ben Johnson saying, yo, there was a lot of chirping from that side of that other locker room over there.
Players heard it.
Coach's heard it.
Talking about the Packers.
Yeah.
Players heard it.
We didn't take kindly to it.
We let the game do the talking.
He went right immediately after the win.
He went in there and said, fuck the Packers.
I like it.
And I like the Packers.
And he did that sassy handshake.
I fuck with Ben Johnson a lot, but he did it.
So for Sean McVeigh to sit at the podium and say, me and Matt LaFleur, he's a real, real, real, real good friend of mine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Says, you know what time is.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
That's an interesting point.
Real beef is back.
I'm rude for the Bears.
Real beef is back.
How big of a factor do you have weather being?
in Chicago. I know they make it a big deal about it.
It's huge. Yeah.
Yeah. Warm weather teams do not typically, as a fan
of a warm weather team, they do not typically fare well
in conditions. Dog, they said it might be the coldest day.
The dolphins are soft too.
The dolphins are soft.
Joe, they said it might be the coldest day in 50 years.
They're talking about potentially canceling the game.
They can't make it warm or the field for them nests.
You'll moan to let us do this.
No, fuck that. I got a team two that I think going to win.
Who that?
San Francisco, one of my niggas from San Francisco.
That's all chicks.
That's the only way they pick or watch a game.
Well, it's the Eagles first, but we lost.
So we didn't do well this year.
I know that.
That's true.
Yeah.
And fire AJ Brown.
I know that too.
You know,
Matt Stafford played in Detroit all of the years.
He did, but it's a dome.
It's a dome, but he went home to Detroit.
And that's only one person.
And you know, Matt Stafford is like a, I'm about the glaze,
but Man Stafford is one of them.
He's different.
He is?
He is?
You heard the whole team.
You talk about Matt Stafford on the sign line when they was down with like 40 seconds left?
When the whole team was like, none of us was worried.
We got the NEPP over there.
He don't run the ball, throw the ball, catch the ball, block.
He don't do all that.
Okay, but it's one thing you're forgetting too.
The beers ain't never played in January.
They practice, Joe.
The bears ain't never played in no January with the lights bright.
They'd be called Chicago in December, November.
They practice.
That ain't January football.
That ain't January.
The Rams are a team that is built to withstand the cold.
I will say that.
They run the ball on.
They play defense.
They got two running backs.
That's true.
You ever just watch Pooka Nicole?
You think he'd give a fuck about snow?
No, he probably don't.
I don't.
He might not.
Yeah, I'm playing with a broken leg.
I'm picking the Rams.
Go Rams.
And is there one more game I'm forgetting or did I do one?
Which one?
Denver.
Denver.
Oh, Denver Bill.
No, by Denver.
Buffalo.
Buy Bo Nix.
Enough of him.
Enough of Bo Nix.
A defense is tough, but I think that I'm not been against Josh Hill.
Sports shows, highlight reels from sports shows in the last two weeks of January.
We don't, Bo Nix enough now.
Enough of you.
You did it.
14 and 2, whatever your record is.
Enough of him.
Seriously.
What's the game I'm forgetting?
Past Texans, but you picked the Texas.
Pick that.
We picked the Seahawks game.
You got them all?
Four games.
Four games.
I'm getting that mincha.
Oh, man.
It's creeping up on me, boy.
That mincha.
Go ahead. Take your hardball.
Oh, round of applause.
Come on. Come on. Round of applause.
I like it. Round of applause.
What's not to like?
They gave in the bag.
Yeah, they did.
What is not to like about this?
Harbow.
How many years he got?
Five.
You think he'll be there for five years?
Has that been announced?
Maybe not officially, but it's rumored to be five years, $100 million.
Yeah.
You think he'll be there for five?
Yeah.
Yeah.
New York media is tough, but.
No, the giant's ownership is tough.
Yeah.
I don't think they're that tough.
Okay.
I don't think they're that tough.
Seriously.
I don't.
Like, they've kept coaches during bad seasons.
And the people they let go was every reason in the world let by Joe.
Sorry, Joe Judge.
Sorry, we're not loyal to you, buddy.
Cawfman.
Cawfman was there for him.
When they fired him, there was some bullshit.
But it's cool.
But he was there for us.
That was our guy.
He was cool.
You talk about.
Yo, don't play.
Talk about y'all, all right?
This is a giant segment.
We hottest coach out there, best coach out there.
They targeted somebody.
They didn't let them leave the building without having something done.
It is to be applauded when the organization does that, especially when it's your team.
Yeah, for sure.
And I think it was more of a situation.
That's where Harbaal wanted it.
He had the power.
He had all the bargaining chips.
He wanted to be there.
Which makes sense because they have a great wide receiver, great running back, a potentially good quarterback.
Everyone's young.
Pulled out the checkbook.
Yeah.
It didn't seem to, as of today, hasn't had to fire the Joe Shone, the GM.
He got to have to just take a little back seat.
Yeah.
Also, there's rumors of Todd Monkin coming over.
So, I mean, I like it.
What's not to like?
I like it.
Go Giants.
Go Giants.
Good for y'all.
Ice, you got anybody you hope that y'all get?
We didn't really get a lot from you and the Steelers for you to be such a big fan.
And for Tomlin to be there so long.
I feel like we didn't ISO you enough.
Is there any?
It came at the end of the part.
anyway, that's why.
But I like y'all coach.
Mike?
Yeah, I like Mike.
I think we're going to regret letting Mike go, but that's a different story.
No, I just, I ain't like the celebration.
Like, people, good, we got rid of, it wasn't that.
Like, Mike Tomlin still did what he did.
Thank you, Mike Tomlin.
I think everybody should be saying thank you to Mike Tomlin.
It's just, it's time for something different.
Everybody keeps telling me, you're going to see now
when your team is the bottom of the barrel, I'm fine with that.
I just, I'm tired of the mediocrity.
Same thing I've been preaching.
So I just want to see what's next.
That's it.
And they say that Mike Tomlin stepped, that was his decision.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I had that wrong last time we reported this, but there was no info out.
Yeah, Mike Tomlin's decision to step away.
I did it enough.
Yeah, ownership was trying to keep it.
Y'all go rock out.
Yeah.
And then, um, so first it was rumored that he'll step away for the year,
do like broadcasting or something.
Uh-huh.
and then if he decides to coach next year
Pittsburgh will still have his rights
and would have to trade him.
But then I was reported that he said
no, I'm done done, right?
I'm done, done, done.
He doesn't want to coach again.
I'm not coaching him.
He said 19 years enough.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He said, I'm done.
We'll see how that.
How about say?
A year old may change that.
Yeah.
It's emotional.
I do have one final sports
but kind of not sports question for y'all.
I don't know if y'all were able to see the presser
that the Ravens owner, Steve Bisciotti gave.
I saw a lot of clips on that.
But there were a lot of clips to come from it.
One where they asked them if the field goal kicker made that kick,
would Harbo still be coaching?
And he was like, for a week?
Oh, shit.
Yo, that NFL owner's swag is a different.
Different assholes.
It's on some.
No, he was up there.
They come from old money.
It's very, very different.
Yeah, they come from some other shit.
He was fly, though, up there.
He was fly.
But anyway, what I wanted to ask you guys about was he said
that when he leaves the earth,
he has no plan on leaving the team to his children.
He says he has seen that bring nothing but turmoil to siblings,
nothing but beef over money.
He said he heard Jerry Jones the other day say that he would give a limb for a Super Bowl.
And he said when he's that age,
he does not wish to feel that at all.
What do y'all feel about him saying
I'm not leaving my team to my kids?
A lot of billionaires say the same shit.
But what do you think about the thought?
Like what do you think about that train of thought?
I think it's whack, but a lot of them had the same sentiment.
So maybe they get to something when you get that,
I've never sniffed that level of money.
But a lot of them say that.
Bill Gates, all of them niggas, be like,
you, I'm not leaving my kids with shit.
I think it's crazy.
And maybe because we're black,
we're going to definitely think that that's crazy
because we're so far behind the bus
that we want our lineage to catch up,
I think it's Asiname, but...
But this dude here, though...
I'm sorry, Mauna.
I ain't really mad at it,
because, one, he gave his reasons.
Like, I've seen it tear families up,
just that in the third one.
Two, that's not my only source of money.
Like, I can still leave them some bread.
I can still leave them other things.
It's just the team.
Just not the team.
Yeah, the team, I've seen...
This happened and this fuck the family up.
I don't want to fuck the family up.
Y'all do that with whatever else we got going on.
And the team, I do something else with it.
I could sell the team for $4 billion and lead them that.
But now I'm one of the four.
He's not saying I'm clipping y'all.
And you know which one of your kids are dumb.
He might have said all that, but he might know he got some dumb-ass and joking-ass kids.
It's like every, you know, you can try your best with your children,
but they're going to turn out how they turn out.
I mean, how many times people do their best by their kids
and they still go the way they want to go.
Or the first half of their life is horrible,
or then they get it together in the end.
If anybody know they got some dumb-ass kids,
this is the motherfuckers that made them.
I'm not giving these dumb-ass kids this so they can fuck this up.
Yeah, I think you...
Oh, good I'm saying.
I mean, I'm just set them up.
You just set them up for them to be okay.
Like, every kid is not a business person.
That's true.
I've seen some of the media moguls
leave the station to the kid,
and they're fighting because dads are a Republican,
he only, you know, like that kind of shit.
And the kids are all liberal,
got two niggas kissing on the commercial.
You don't even want that.
You owe, these two niggas,
the kids are on the shit you built.
I told these motherfuckers don't go there route
They don't listen
Fuck that
It's true though
You're right
I didn't see that turn
You were having to Joe by the network
To them children
And they just do some
Some crazy shit with it
And then you're old and man
You know you won't care
You know
It's true
That's funny
I agree with your wife
Mark you were saying
I got nothing to add
I'm not a note
I was waiting for the end
Just to toss it to you out of that
Oh my God
I will
say this. I think we all have a duty
to make sure our kids are okay.
Billionaires kids tend to turn out just fine
no matter what.
Is that a fact?
Financially. Financially. I'm saying
very few billionaires lead their kids with
nothing. Their idea of I'm not leaving
you with much is I'm leaving you with this $20 million.
You know what I mean? You're just $200
million and that's all you're going to get.
Literally, that's how it would be. So I'm not leaving
no sleep over. What was interesting to me was the
second part of it. Because the first part is like
these kids fighting over cool. But he also
said, I don't want to be in that Jerry Jones mentality of like I'll cut my limb to win a Super Bowl.
Like, almost like, I don't want the last days of my life to be spent stressing about this thing
just so that I can give it to them.
You know what I mean?
I'm going to do his best for me.
Like my dad, before he died, he had properties.
He sold them.
We encouraged him to sell them all so that he could enjoy that money and he could live with it, right?
Because he didn't, and not be stressed about managing it.
Everybody's life is different.
And we turned out fine.
If we were a different life situation, I would say something different.
But the point is, it's okay to make choices about your life to make you.
okay and not always think about the kids as long as the kids are going to be okay
that's my question to you all to close this topic out that was interesting you just said that
mark because i've had these talks with my mom and with my parents as you age dipping into your
savings to live for yourself versus right leaving it all to the kids like what do you
what do y'all think y'all will be spin that shit for me it's a little bit of both
For me, it's a little bit of both.
I don't want you to be in poverty.
I don't want you to be lacking or going through a season of lack for me.
But I also, I just think that it's important.
We talk about some of this stuff and how it affects our communities.
I think it's important to build our communities up by leaving some shit for the legacy.
But I do want you to enjoy yourself.
I don't want you to be going, like you out here
I want some bullshit. No, enjoy your money, live.
You know what I'm saying? I just think it's 50-50.
It's a nightmare of mine to be 70, 80-some
bawling out of control on the money that I work so hard for.
And then some of my kids or my wife or somebody come whack me over the head.
That's a nightmare, my.
Yo, and just out the blue yesterday on the ID channel.
Stop watching Doc.
Just yesterday.
on the ID channel was the story
of Lorenzo Wright from the
from the Memphis Grizzlies
who oh my God rest in peace to
Lorenzo, right? Are you kidding
me?
He had just told his man, yo man
enough of these girls. I think I'm about to settle down
get back with my wife, do this thing right.
She in Memphis setting up to murder him
with the gardener that she was fucking.
That's one of the stories I forgot about
like I knew about it.
But as you watch it
Yeah, no, don't kill me
While I'm fucking, fuck you.
I'll shoot a relative, niggins.
You can't ball too hard.
That's why you got to watch that stuff.
If your family look at you, not your family,
but people general look at you like they can't,
the only way they could get it
is like getting rid of you.
The wolf starts off.
But that's why you're going to be on point.
You're going to see it coming because you watch dogs.
They kill the shit out of one of these.
Listen, I'm waiting to play with me like that.
Oh, you crazy.
You all you better wait till I'm going.
I'm going to be fighting the case.
Oh, my God.
Anywho.
Mark's man, Mark's man Anton Daniels seemed to get into a, get into a something with Corey Holcomb.
He went on his podcast and boy, that was a lot of fun.
So I'm going to play some clips from it because it was interesting.
I guess like, you're stupid.
I'm going to answer you a question.
Okay.
I'm going to answer you a question.
It depends on the circumstance.
And the interesting thing about it is this.
The majority of the people, because you like to use a blanket statement.
That's like me saying all black people are stupid.
Well, you, have you said all white people stupid?
No, I'm talking about cops.
You should say that one time because it's easy to say all black people are stupid as an example.
Say something about the white people.
No, no, no, no, no.
I don't think you got.
Well, I didn't hear you.
Can you tell me?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I hear you talking about liberal white people literally being.
the biggest enemy of the United States of America.
That's the thing I say every single thing.
I started it from earlier in the fight, but I think it's all important to hear.
What about their men?
Facts.
But we're going to get there.
Because you keep trying to get me to qualify it by participating and joining in on the court.
No, I think you're doing what's easy.
No, no, no, no.
I'm doing what's real.
I think you don't want to go against them.
Somewhere in there seemed like there was a conversation that they were trying to have.
A session.
I don't talk about your boss.
I don't have a boss.
We say that.
We say that.
But here's the truth.
It's a reason you go after black males or black people quicker than you will go after white men.
What are white males responsible for?
Here we go.
I'm a equal accountability smoke giver.
I talk about everybody.
I'm just saying, I ain't heard you talk about white men since you've been up here.
You ain't been listening.
You ain't been listening.
I've been listening to you.
I've just haven't.
I hear you taking the, you don't have the capacity to be able to listen because you're too busy.
No, no, no, no, no, you got to be long.
My capacity that you just criticized, that's an opinion.
Here's the fact.
Have you saying something about Caucasian males and how they destroy this nation?
What did I mean?
Let's slow down.
Because you're talking loud, but you're not saying a lot.
No, no, no, you're talking about.
You still talking around what did you do to America to bring it down.
I'm not getting into that.
You're piercing around it.
And that's why I lose me.
respect for you when you start dancing and kissing Caucasian males ass.
Oh, here we go.
Don't do that in front of me because I'm not an ass-we.
We got action.
No, we get up.
You suck the dick of black people right now.
Whoa, you're doing it easy.
What you do, let me tell you what you do.
Welcome to the Franks dad.
Hey, I don't tell you.
I don't know.
Yeah, you do.
So free you're doing it right now.
Here we go.
You're doing it right now.
Believe me when I tell you, I don't do that.
I don't do that.
I don't do that.
Listen, listen.
So don't come in me with no dick-sucking shit.
I'm gonna give you the same energy you get me.
Let's switch it.
Now you switch in.
With his co-holds.
So they could be face-to-face.
They write next to your stuff.
Furniture movement.
That's right.
Uh-oh.
The nose and no scene is weird.
I don't give a fuck about nothing.
Well, I tell you what.
Watch that dick-sucking shit because that'll go bad.
Call it what you want.
I don't do no dick sucking, homie.
You say a lot of shit that I don't fuck what either.
Okay.
But that gay shit.
Ooh.
Hey, homie, I tell me, I tell the way.
I tell the way.
I tell the way.
At this point, Corey is all in Anton's face.
They're like doing like a zoo's face off.
Dance around it.
I don't know, no, no, no.
I don't do no dick sucking shit.
I'm gonna respect you because it's your platform
and I flew out here to have a conversation.
We good.
But you're not forcing up on me.
Y'all got to put it already.
I don't need this.
We can put the microphone right down right now and go on back.
I don't give a fuck about this.
Oh, I don't know, sir.
I don't know.
I'm not talking about.
You're doing this shit on the internet.
Yeah, he's offering the rumble.
You want to save your time.
No, no, hold on.
I'll pause it, dear.
They nose and knows like they're about to start break this.
Caucasian man, tearing families apart.
I have a question, fellas.
Again.
Who is this nigga?
This guy.
Okay, so Anton Daniels is a popular, especially on YouTube, like commentator, right wing,
got a lot of critical stuff to say about Black.
He's the one who interviewed Brian McKnight that called me out.
Okay, but he's also like, some may say he is a rage baiter, right?
Is he one of them where it's like he says shit because he knows we're going to get upset
and then we push it because he's a rage bait.
I think he believes that shit.
Oh, he really does.
I do.
I don't like what he says, but I think he believes it.
Oh, okay.
That makes me think differently about the argument, but whatever.
Go ahead.
What was you about to say?
So when I saw the headlines, it was like Corey Hocom checks Anton Danz.
Corey Hocom, you know, was about to whip Anton Daniels ass.
And as somebody who hasn't been a fan of Anton Daniels,
I pleasantly hit click.
We can see that.
But honestly,
Antine didn't come off bad to me.
He stood his ground.
Like, he didn't look like no nuts.
He didn't seem like no bitch.
That's what I'm saying.
Personally, and I don't know Corey Hocom either,
but it looked like Corey thought he had an easy one.
He was just going to go chump him and kick him off the stage.
And when dude was like, nah.
Like, you know what I mean?
He was calm.
But he didn't back down.
I actually don't make Corey look bad.
Yeah, because he says we can go out back to fight.
The only thing after that is, okay, come on, nigga.
If somebody, first of all...
It don't take that long to fight.
He says to him, oh, you suck the dick of black people.
I wouldn't get fuck if he said you suck the dick of a person that doesn't even have a pen.
You suck the dick.
You can't say to a black man, you suck a dick.
You know what I mean?
Or anything...
See, that's where I don't.
You can't...
I'm talking about me, a person, a shit talker.
I'm getting into argument.
I watch that because somebody can clear you for that.
Like, punch you, really aggressive.
Feel it up for it.
You can't call a man a pussy.
You can't, sometimes you can't call men a bitch.
You can't say kiss my ass to certain kind of men,
and you cannot say suck my dick.
I know certain men that no matter what,
you say that they're going to put their hands on you.
That's what I'm saying.
But, Mom, that's what I'm saying.
If you tell somebody you kiss their ass and he responded
when you suck their dick.
I'm saying, y'all in the same conversation.
That's all I'm saying.
But then you trump ass with dick?
No, see, that's why I think it was a disconnect.
I think everything was cool at first until he said,
yo, you be kissing these white men's asses.
Which is an insult.
Right.
For now, so I can say no, but you suck black men dick.
I think depending on where you from, we don't look at them like they're equal.
And some niggas do look at it like it's equal.
Like, oh, you disrespecting me.
Now let me throw a jab back at you.
I don't think he would have told him you suck dick.
If he wouldn't have said.
That's what I'm saying.
So I think they are equivalent depending on who you're talking to.
The bad part, not the bad part.
But once he said to suck dick shit, now your ego and your pride get into it, you got to get up.
You got to walk over there.
And surprisingly, Homeboy was like,
yo, my nigger.
You're not bossing up on me.
He turned his whole chair, bro.
He spent his whole chair on you, boy.
What are you doing?
He was like, yo, dog, like, I'm not scared of you at all.
And as somebody, like, I'm not, I don't watch Corey Hocom stuff.
Cory Hocom comes off harsh to me.
So I don't, and I like dark humor.
I like shit like that, but some of that is too rough.
When he was like going, him and just had a thing,
just hilarious, and he was going real hard on her.
It just turned me off.
I stopped really watching after that.
But I will say that for me, as a black person,
especially an angry Negro like myself.
When I see stuff like that the same way
I was real impressed by Glass as Malone
with him having this debate with this guy that says all shit that I hate,
I'm expecting for you to will possess.
If it get that far, I'm expected for you to beat him up.
Or you to at least look like the tougher guy.
You see those kind of guys on the internet
and they talk and all that shit
and they have all this vitro for us
and then they might say certain things about white people.
You inadvertently start to hate them.
I hate people like that.
I don't care.
I feel like certain conversations with black people
when we pulling each other up
needs to be done in certain spaces.
I don't think that that's a place that you do that.
I've never agreed with that.
You'll never see a poster mind from 10 years ago saying,
oh, I hate when we do this.
Are black people so dumb?
I don't even talk like that.
I don't think it's progressive to like our movement
and the shit we go through.
And I think that we're supposed to pull each other up in certain spaces.
You can't do that in front of white people.
That's why I hate shit like that.
You know what I'm saying?
I want to go ahead.
I've seen,
I've only seen it do Anton a couple times.
Like he mentioned me in a couple of his shits.
Did he like you?
Was it positive?
Yeah.
I mean, he ain't, when he went at you,
niggas were sending it to me.
And he said some shit like,
yo, ish, yo, I fuck with you, like, why?
Because I was...
I don't know.
How'd that make you feel, Lord?
That's a bad. I just think of fucking...
No, no, it's true.
No, he said, I love it.
No, when I went to go defend Mark,
he was like, yo, dog, dog, chill,
like, sit this one out, I fuck with you type of shit.
But the stuff, I only heard him a couple.
You went to go defend more weird.
What was this happening?
On one of the pods, me, I went to defend Mark
and one of the pods.
and he was like, yo, chill.
Oh, nigga, I thought she finally was sliding.
He was a knox for that week.
You do it.
You do he won't.
I thought he slid for a bar.
Oh, you mean you said the DM?
You wrote a strongly worded to hell.
Yo, but.
I get what you're doing.
No, and then, I said some real estate shit up here
or some finance shit up here one time,
and he took it and clipped it and expounded on it.
But those are the only two things I've ever seen.
It's outside of that.
I'm unaware of his concept.
Freeze, who won this exchange?
I don't think neither one on one.
Honestly.
Oh, I disagree.
I disagree.
If somebody got, if somebody get up to chump you and it don't work,
you got still.
True.
Then you up.
You got still.
You up.
But see, reason why, because that clip continued.
Me too.
And he kept telling them like, all right, say it again.
Yeah.
Say it again.
He did.
He did say, say it again.
He didn't say it again.
No.
So that's like, nobody wants to really take it.
One at the time.
We were talking over each other.
The whole thing is juvenile, bro.
It is.
That's what I'm saying.
Nobody won.
Yeah.
I disagree.
Let me tell you why.
You got out your chair.
You walked over to this man and you started to attempt to chump him off.
As if we switched seats.
And every time he said, say it again, say it again, that nigger still said, we could go outside right now.
Yeah.
He didn't mutter.
He when he said, said it.
He like, yo, nigga, we could get up and take the shit off and go right outside.
That was his reply.
So it wasn't like,
yo, say it again, I dare you, and then he cowered.
He didn't coward.
He's like, yo, let's get up outside.
But he's not going to say it again.
Excuse me, my, real quick.
To me, this is part of being mature.
If I just said to you.
If I know all these cameras, it was like the camera.
But not, not just nothing mature happens.
No, I don't know.
I don't think Antime was immature here.
And again.
Me either.
Wow.
Telling somebody to kiss day.
Well, you don't be saying that because he just slid you a couple months ago.
Oh, she.
You were watching your commentary.
You were watching your commentary.
You're trying.
You're trying to.
You always happen.
Do I got to show you how this done
when you don't fuck with the niggas that you're talking about?
Because I don't fuck with either one of these niggas.
But I'm objective and I'm going to, I'm going to say to her.
Like I said, I wanted this to go a different way.
I want him, but it didn't go that way.
And I don't want no violence.
I just thought after hitting play it was going to be something else.
Who wanted violence?
You're supposed to grab that, Corey.
I don't be wanting, I don't be wanting real life violence.
And yo, if Corey Hokel would have knocked that nigger dick loose,
you ought to be like, yay.
Why does it always go there?
How do you always end up with dick?
That's an old Virginia.
You're all right?
Not too dick loose.
You're not going to knock you.
I'm not going to dig loose myself.
Oh, okay.
See, now look what you did.
See, but I was making a point, right?
My point was, I think the mature thing of Anton was, look, you told you obviously feel
disrespected by this.
I'm not going to just say it again to antagonize you.
To me, that would be rage big.
Look, look, if you feel like I disrespect you,
in your platform, I'm not going to say it again, but you're also not going to treat me
like a pussy, is what he basically said.
I respect that. And then when dude kept talking,
say it again, he was like, well, we can step outside if that's really what you want.
What does a loose dick even look or feel like?
All I know is, it don't seem like neither of them was particularly interested in fighting.
But Anton never said he was.
He was just defending himself.
And Corey could have followed him.
He was moving slower than the groomsman when it was time to actually do that shit.
That says something.
It looks so stupid.
And I feel bad for that girl when he was.
here because every time Corey go too far, she's just deer in the head like,
like she don't know what to do.
You don't know your partner.
And I think it's funny that I don't care where a nigga from.
It's always the end of the same.
I'm from Detroit.
Like, I'm from Jersey City.
I'm from the Bronx.
Like, everybody thinks they hood.
I don't like that part.
Yeah, he's from Detroit.
Should I continue?
Should I continue to clip?
Please, it's a little more.
But there's another clip I want to play to.
Let's see.
I'll show you I ain't doing it for the internet.
I'm saying, yeah, let me ask you, before I play this,
does it matter at all to anybody?
that this is content on Corey's show
because I'm conflicted, right?
Like, if it's my show
and we about, and we turn it up,
then no matter what you think.
Ultimately, I win no matter what.
Yeah.
Also, because it's my show,
if I buck up and you don't cower,
then I got a punch in your face.
No, nigger, outside of it being your show.
Now, Anton has security there.
They both alluded to,
I'm saying, don't disrespect me like that.
If you want to say Anton, don't disrespect me like that, I'll respect you.
But don't boss up on me because you said a lot of shit to me today that I don't fuck with either.
But I let that shit ride because you don't know me.
You don't know me.
So I'm going to extend the same respect to you.
You called me out of my name.
You said some wild shit, especially with regard to how they call this, nigga, out of this.
Nick, I'm telling you that you did.
You can't tell me how I get you.
I got a question from bro.
Okay.
No, no, no, hold on.
Hold on one second.
Hold on.
We just get loud.
I ain't get to get it loud.
Then don't switch seats.
No.
That's what I'm saying.
That's cool.
But I take that shit as a threat.
Okay.
Well, it is a threat.
And I understand that.
It was meant to be a threat.
Right.
Now, fuck what you're talking about.
I don't dig this.
All right.
Antons are winning me over in this.
That's what I'm saying.
Nick, I said it already.
And he said you're not going to do shit.
Right.
And he didn't.
He got up to go.
See, I like that.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
Antoine, what are you talking about?
I don't fuck with all that.
Antio said I'm with it.
Yo, don't, let me tell you.
This sucks, Corey.
Real nigger shit.
Nigel like, yo, we don't got to do this for the cameras.
We're doing this inside your studio is camera base.
We going outside putting our dick beaters up like men.
That's the last one.
That's the last one.
That's the last one for you.
I know it's your birthday.
You say hands.
That's a camera.
Why hands is.
It's shorter.
Dick, Dick, Dick.
You getting carried away today.
You're getting carried away today.
You're saying here probably running our dick suckers.
God, damn.
Yo, dog.
If you throw up your dick suckers and knock his dick loose.
Wait a what?
I said dick beat us, nigga.
No, and then before you said knock his dick loose.
Yo, but anyway,
a lot of niggas would be like, nah, it's too much crowd.
Let's walk around the corner.
Of course.
Like, old-ha niggas be like, yo, dog, let's go around the corner.
We don't got to do this right here.
You're making the scene.
You're having all this commotion.
Let's walk down the block.
Unless they both thick and shit, they can't fight back there.
There ain't enough room.
Well, now, see, that's where I want to jump in here.
Last week, we was talking about, whatever we was talking about,
and ICE was on his fucking, I hate when he get all kumbaya,
when there's two niggas that we love beef, and he was like,
yo, man, just don't want to see nobody fight.
And I was like, well, sometimes I do.
And he said, name something?
This is another example of two niggers.
I would have loved for them to fight.
They should afford it.
I would have absolutely loved for these two niggas to fight.
because Anton was tough, but his arms is about short.
It's like this.
He's got the T-Rex shit in Marshall.
Yeah.
You can't really square up.
And then Corey Hocom seemed like at some point in his life, he was tough, but he's older now.
So he's working from his brain.
I want to see these two niggas fight.
I don't.
They wasn't about to slide nothing.
If they would have went in the backyard, I would have appreciated it.
I don't want to see them fight because it makes us collectively look stupid in my opinion.
Corey, you wasn't sliding nothing, nigger.
I hate when we do that.
do that. Why two niggas podcast and fight
and make us look dumb? We did Joe Button Show.
You know why? Because people from outside look at us collectively.
They don't look at them. You're talking about the white people and I don't care
with that they're talking about whoever. They got to go sit in somebody's room for a contract
and you're in the middle of a contract negotiation or dispute and they're looking at you
like, no. They're looking at you like, yo, Corey Hokem and Anton.
Damn. Yeah, come on, bro. They did. They fucked it up for you. Yeah, sorry.
I was just about to give you that deal. Get out my office.
I'm going to give you a podcast 360.
Yeah, just because of Antone.
I'm too niggins wrestling.
But we do look stupid out.
I mean, especially the shit we argued over.
I mean, at some point, and it's myself included, right?
We who?
Those of us who engage in these type of dumb-ass arguments.
That's what I'm saying, myself included, right?
You get into argument over words at 40, 50.
It's stupid.
And we end up ultimately looking stupid.
It's not worth fighting over.
You know, somebody, I mean, even my argument would flip.
Like, honestly, I wasn't, my mind didn't go to fight until he stood up.
Really shed a bad light on the company.
Totally made your button podcast
That made us look bad
No, that made us look bad
Like that made us look bad
Seriously
Hey that what you say
Who us?
Yeah like go
No I'm saying
Even that day
I didn't
I wasn't feeling anything
It wasn't until he stood up
That my mind that a switch went off
For me
What I'm saying is
You had to hold him
My belt loop
I'm not saying I didn't
No no
You went in third with the sucker
You was driving normal
And then you got it up to about
Yeah I'm not saying I wasn't mad
But I wasn't thinking like actual
Like throwing hands from words
But I was there
Even if I wanted to
But my point
his words shouldn't be setting us off and I think
we had an age now where he said suck
his dick or he said you suck dick
that's them dumb shit to be fighting, rolling around on the ground
moving furniture for it. Myself in place, it's just dumb.
That's the first thing that stood out.
It's like it's so stupid because it's not like
they don't get that the argument doesn't get to the height of
and they're about to rumble over what they're really here
for. Why the fuck are you
came for the white man and da-da-da-da. You're all getting
you suck dick. It's like it's stupid but
I don't know. I would appreciate it if he would have punched him.
They didn't have to fight but
could have removed wearing a little furniture
little sweat for me. You know what I mean?
Because it's the thing. And I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, I don't want to see any violence.
It's all that. It's like, motherfuckers, have a argument. I p. I've had to have a
for two, three years. I've never argued in front of the camera. You don't have to p.
And to disagree and get to that way. And then it's like, when shit, get, it's, that's where the fuck it leads to when you,
when you do it that way.
It's like,
yeah, it could be yours,
my, can be mine,
we don't have to,
but a nigga,
a stick you and fuck with you
and play, you know what I mean?
So it's like, you know,
I don't know.
I know what you mean.
You can't at home talk shit
about it because y'all watch it.
If you didn't watch it,
motherfuckers wouldn't do it.
People are at that point now
where they're setting up the room
where they're setting up shit.
Because people like it.
I think it's corny.
I feel like I could be entertaining
just popping my shit
and I ain't really got to disrespect nobody for real.
I don't have,
I'm very good at disrespecting
niggas.
And niggas is making too much money now to hit you when the camera is rolling.
Oh my gosh.
Like, he is for sure.
Sorry.
Well, I don't know how much these two niggas is making.
They might still be broke enough to scrap.
Like my laptop was $100.
I ain't, nah, with a camera on?
Sorry.
Sorry, buddy.
Sorry.
So a nigger run over the camera punch you in your face.
You walking off?
Oh, no.
He initiated the fight.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Is that how they go?
Yeah.
Right that down, juice.
Yeah, he initiated the fight.
I'm talking about me hitting somebody while a camera is rolling.
So that could be a battle for the next two years.
I agree with you.
So that when you're going to Amazon's office
or when you walk in whomever's office
and they're looking at you like the nigger
that was punching somebody on camera.
Okay.
Yeah.
You get what I'm saying?
When you go to, I'm assuming that both of these guys
are trying to increase their media presence
in their empires, I'm sure.
So why the fuck would I do that on somebody's camera?
So now it's footage that's going to live on the internet forever.
I don't want to do that.
Corey Cougham has no reason to type.
He already, the raw is the dirtiest, the nasties you can get.
So if he's going to get the deal, he's going to get it.
He type a nigga like that type of shit he do and say,
he has to fund his own shit.
Because people don't stand, a lot of people don't want to stand behind his.
No, that little folding target table and chairs is his peak.
Yeah, like, I'm just, I mean, really, it's his subject matter.
What Corey got going is what the fuck he going ahead going.
That's not hate going to hate going.
He don't move.
He doesn't put out shit like he wanted to be no better.
He does the Corey Holcomb thing.
He's going to say some nasty shit.
And because recently the long folding tables come 16 inch.
They long now.
You can get them in any size.
Bro.
That nigga was like, fuck my daughter and her mom.
Like, niggins like that, yeah.
No dove commercial for you, pop pop.
Like, you don't have even see Corey with a shape up no more.
Like, that's how bad.
He didn't, he, like, he, like, he don't look like he'd pick a cologne before he leave the house.
And don't know why he won't go back to corporate.
I'm not trying to be funny.
He's not joking.
It's real.
I'm not trying to be funny at all.
I don't have no beef with, I don't have a horse in the race.
I think the fight would have been a draw.
And it was going to smell like feet in the world.
We beat each other senseless.
A draw and it would smell like feet in the beginning of the fight in the end.
But Anton, you do get, you do get respect for standing up and trying to take it outside.
Not for me, Anton.
You do.
You do.
It still fuck you, niggas.
Fuck you in your brain.
Yeah.
It's still fuck both of y'all.
Fuck all of y'all.
That wouldn't happen with me.
It's so hard to watch from up here.
Well, I wouldn't have been around no, no, nigger, like I wouldn't.
My thing is, and lastly, in closing, is that one person flew to the other person to have a talk.
And this is what it's...
Right.
And he said that too.
He's like, fam, you brought me here to discuss certain shit on your platform.
That's what I came here for.
So cool, you've been saying disrespect.
I ain't see the interview.
But he said, yo, you've been disrespecting me all day and I've been letting it rock.
And Corey tried to talk crazy after Homeboy left, too.
Let me see him.
Did he?
That's funny.
This is a fact.
I like this chat.
Let me tell y'all why I like the chat.
Why I like the chat?
No, no, no.
No, I'm fast forward on your whole look.
Because he did kick him out.
Hold up.
Oh, he kicks him out?
He walks off.
He walked up.
Antone walks up.
I'm telling you when I said, you felt offended by it, so I apologize.
Tricky words.
All I'm doing is rehashed from the conversation that happened.
Why you so easily offended?
We just didn't talk about me.
It's not like a argument.
Because I'm right.
I'll be around bitches and they tell me about myself all the time.
Because that shit don't hurt no feelings.
It's probably better this way.
Because I just proved my point.
Be down.
So you proved the point.
Homie, just gone, man.
Just gone, man.
You're gone.
I'm not the jet.
You didn't did it this before.
Hey, homie, get your bitch ass to fuck on.
And walk over there with your body.
You can't say that once a nigga leaving.
Walk over there with your bodyguard and your bitch.
I got shit to do I just slay them that's crazy
dog that you ain't gonna stand on dog he said that about that lady his lady if you got a
bitch what you explain the bitch Anton's no answer to be on my show nigger can she be on
the show I don't know that bitch nigga oh oh now get your whole ass to fuck on and
pay for your pussy like you got to yeah cake ass nigga yeah see now sweet ass
I don't get you a bodyguard because the nigger beat
to slap the shit out your bitch ass.
You can't do that.
Come on.
Come on.
Come on.
And the boy was going by it.
That's what I'm saying.
To me, anti-Kin.
It's a lot of wolfing.
If I had never heard of Anton Danes before and Corey Hokem, I'd say I'd fuck
with Anton based on that video.
Just because of how we carry it.
You know what I'm saying?
But we did and we don't.
We don't.
Facts and facts.
But that shit's corny.
What else?
What else?
What else?
What else?
I was watching this interview.
I think y'all saw you.
Jay Prince put it up. It was the, uh,
an old interview with Hove and Toray.
Did y'all see this? I did see that. Yeah,
I think I did. And Terray
is basically,
Jay-Z was shouting out Scarface showing love
to Scarface, and Teret was like,
Scarface, he only got one flow.
And then Jay-Z proceeded to
explain to him why that was the dumbest take
in the history of the world. He's like, do you hear what
he's saying in that flow? Do you hear what he's doing? Even if he had one
flow, that's enough. But also, like, you're wrong. He don't
got one flow. Right. And
I saw Teret in the comments, like,
you know when somebody's like this is a terrible ass take and he was like yeah it was like
I mean he owned it because how could you not because they was killing them on that shit but what
what I made me think is like for y'all what is the worst take y'all have ever had not not necessarily
on music on anything where especially as public people what's the dumbest shit you've ever said that
when somebody 10 years from now pulls it up you're going to be as embarrassed as he was about
that scarface shit I said a lot of stupid shit is so much one that one that comes to mind is
that scoot henderson should be considered as the number one pick before victor women yaw
I mean, women,
Women Yama.
Yeah.
I said that.
That was bad.
That was real bad.
I said, I had a real bad one recently.
It was real bad.
It'll come back.
Your views take was bad.
Huh?
I said your views take was bad.
But, um.
Yeah, I don't think that's the worst.
That was bad, Joe.
Oh, go ahead.
I'm talking about like egregious takes.
Like I said, chance is going to be the next Drake.
Like, that's a, that's a bad.
I just told you all.
I just told you all.
I just said, I said, Jay Cole's never drop an album.
Oh, yeah.
That might be...
It's got a lot of these.
Seriously.
I know.
Your bowl,
take.
It wasn't bad.
It's atrocious.
It's not.
What's your,
what's your bowl take?
Bro,
I ain't doing this
what you do that.
That's because you know.
No,
because all niggas is spent
37 minutes on it
and I don't feel like doing it.
It's your birthday.
We would not do that on your birthday.
I said that bowl bowl
has similar skills,
if not better than Wimbangama.
He just ain't been used
in the way
that Wimbingyana has been used.
I withdrawing your honor.
Yeah, that was terrible.
And a week later, guess who said it?
Shack and all the rest of them.
They got some of the skill sets.
I give what you saying.
He doesn't think it's a bad state.
You got to, he got to people where he thinks is a bad state, not y'all.
Boom, Mona.
That's true.
What's the take that you think that you think was trashed?
I got a bunch.
I think that when you sit up here and talk for 20 hours a week, you're going to say some shit.
Which one was an example that?
I don't know off the top of my head, but it's a bunch.
I got a lot of them.
Okay.
I got a bunch of them.
Fair enough.
Just give us one.
I think it's cool.
I know this, this, niggas, my niggas, he's not doing that.
He's not doing that, bro.
The racism one was bad, too.
What racism?
That's actually, that's what it was.
What racism?
It's my man birthday, so I'm not doing that.
But that was another one.
Because he can't seem to think of any.
That was real bad, too.
What you had, Mark?
You said you had two of them.
Yeah, that draft with Wiggins, Jabari Parker, and Embeddeed,
I was really strong Andrew Wiggins.
Superfoot as the number one.
I was worried about Embed's injuries.
I thought Embed would be number one
I thought Wiggins was going to be an all-star
I thought he was going to be a consistent all-star player
It's not a bad take
In retrospect
It wasn't like a stupid take
But it's one I regret
I also thought that
Jason Tatum was going to be
Only slightly above average
Because I was following that trend
To like Duke players that like play
That turned out to be really good college players
And complete NBA players
But not
Oh y'all got to give you all shoe sizes
So I could give Jason Tatum
I feel like you said six months ago
Yeah that changed though
She changed though
He fucking with us again.
No, seriously.
He sent me a DM like seven months ago.
We know?
All right, sorry.
I'm sure just gone.
First of all, y'all said bad takes.
Now, Taterman ain't going to do us like that.
Y'all started a topic about bad takes.
Everybody talked about sports.
No.
No, I mentioned some of my hip-hop takes.
My won sports.
Bad hip-hip take is harder for me to think about.
Not because I don't have them just like I'm trying.
Well, it's because every new hip-hop album that drop you call an album in a year
and cover yourself for the last bullshit, you say.
Or new albums come out and they get better.
Yeah, I know.
It wasn't good.
This was a good year.
Yeah.
This was a good year.
So I'm not, I'm not jumping on that.
That's what happened.
Clips came out and I said, this might be album of the year.
And then I really fell in love with chances album.
And I thought that was album of the year because it came after.
Here's a good take.
Why don't all the men get together and carry Jervante Davis to prison?
Damn.
What's the latest?
What do you do now?
He's horrible.
What did he do now?
In general.
they've issued a warrant for his arrest because they got them on film going in the strip club grabbing somebody by the neck and head
pulling him out pulling her out yeah this is on video they're waiting for him to turn itself in they got the marshals out
yeah his main problem is parks i feel like is his hands are bisexual like you know it's a problem
he don't got a problem in the bitch in the morning or the night you know you come alive in them topics
I don't know about that.
Do you notice that about yourself?
No, I don't.
And I disagree.
I had a take.
Y'all just skipped me.
I mean, you said barely would do.
What was your bad take?
I'm sorry, you're right.
We skipped you.
What was your bad take?
Because you kind of said, like, we had so many, but you did the itish thing.
I didn't really, like, part of my worst take is I had to apologize for it.
I watched a documentary, I mean, a comedy special by David Chappelle, and then I got on my
podcast and said, I don't feel supported by gay people as a black woman.
And I met white gay people, and they dragged me for four days.
And I lost 20.
thousand followers
but I apologize because I was wrong
not because of the followers gays
love you guys
that's a good beef to piece up
I mean but this is the thing about it
I was wrong
that's not even what I was you know what I mean
how did you have at the time just wrong
probably like 180 something like that
and 20,000 were gay people
I mean I have a lot of big huge gay
following like seriously it didn't and just because
you get into it with the gays that's not only
gays that are going to follow you so
straights are disgusted by that my mother called
me about that shit. My mom. My mom has never
even came to a show. My mom called
like, bitch, them people set you up
like, you know, they call you mother and shit like that.
You gotta correct that. If you make white
gay say it and stand on it and I did.
In an emergency episode, I apologize. And that's
the thing about having a platform. I think
people don't understand why it is
important to apologize when you're wrong. It is important
to read and find out, oh, I was wrong
about that. It doesn't make you less of a woman
or less of a man. It makes you intelligent.
Intelligent, people make mistakes and learn.
Idiots stand on it. I don't give a fuck. That's how
I feel and this.
You sound dumb.
Like, I feel like I'm blessed with itself.
Well, you killed that, and I agree.
Parks, you got one?
Bad take?
Yeah.
I didn't like Dan when it came up.
My bad.
My bad.
How good you?
Damn.
All right, so y'all don't want to help carry Tank Davis to the jail.
Oh, no.
Yeah, I'm saying.
You don't know.
Listen, someone will get hit.
That is necessary.
He's not going down without a fight.
But he has to go now.
So you're going to go in the room first?
I have zero problem.
You know, in the jail?
In the jail?
They said, you know what I mean?
Bro, can I tell you all something?
I don't want to say the girlfriend, but he was dating this girl at a time, right?
And they were live, and he had scratches all over him, like all over him.
And then they were like, it was tension in there.
But I knew then, oh, he really hit bitches.
Because, like, you know what I mean?
When you got scratches like that, y'all in there fighting.
She's not just attacking you, your fist fighting.
And being in his license hands, I always looked at him funny then, and that was years ago.
Like, he'll hit you.
He's known for that.
Like, you don't even have to be his girl.
you can just say the night he will smack you
Well if he's innocent I take it all back
But I think they got enough footage of him
Getting it done
Where's his old heads? Where's his like people?
Is he on drugs?
What's wrong with that brother?
Speaking of where is your people
Actually
That's a great segue
So Jay Leno recently opened up
That his wife is struggling with dementia
Which is horrible
And we're praying for her
Of course we are
Of course.
And they've been together for 45 years.
They seem to have a beautiful relationship.
God, damn.
He's taken care of her 24-7 now.
He sort of opened up.
And he said, like, look, I've had a great life.
If this is the worst thing I've had to encounter, you know what I mean?
I still had a good life.
He has perspective on it.
He was talking to Maria Shriver.
When he did the interview, though, he said that, like, the thing that shocked him the most
was that people have been walking up to him saying, like, you know, so are you going to
get a girlfriend now?
Oh, shit.
Because his wife is.
It doesn't seem right.
Well, that's what I said.
And then I had a spirited conversation with my wife last night, and I rethought this.
You know.
Is this what drove you to the McCallens?
Wait, Jay Leno?
Yes.
No, I actually was reading that in the bar.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
But it made me think, like, how does your partner have to be before you start to get another partner, why they still live?
Well, that's touchy with the dementia because it's so many different levels of it.
And I've seen people that have dementia.
and they still want to kiss from their husband or they still embrace, you know.
Like I've seen people that are totally out of it, but when they see their significant other,
they hug, they kiss and everything.
But will she remember what I did yesterday?
She probably wouldn't, but I just feel like if you really love her and she's going out
that way, I don't think that you would even be fast to go get somebody else.
You really love her.
Depending on how bad dementia is, she could be a new person every time.
Facts.
You could be the new person to her.
You could just, you know what I mean?
You can roleplay this and turn it into something else.
You could.
I mean, all right.
And if I'm taking care of her, who's taking care of me?
God.
Who else?
Does anybody else matter?
No.
Bro, it's sickness and health.
If this nigga gets dementia and she's not dead yet, no, you can't get another bitch.
Well, that's what Jay Little said.
He said, we took a vow.
I don't understand why people are so upset that I, you know,
are so shocked that I would honor my vows.
And I support that.
And if my wife, just to be clear, wife, if you get Alzheimer's or dementia or any other thing
where you don't know where I am or who I am
and you can't track me
and you don't remember what just happened
I will be 100% without a girlfriend
because that's how I roll.
However, you can't track me.
Well, you didn't hear what you said.
They got married in 1980.
Yeah.
Back when vows meant something.
Yeah, and I think you got to honor those vows.
I'm just saying there is another way to look at this.
And I saw this with B. Smith up in New York
before she passed away, rest of the piece.
Some people feel like if I am so out of it
that I don't know where I am,
I don't want you to be without companionship.
I don't want you to be alone.
So if I got dementia Alzheimer's,
I'm telling you my wife can have a boyfriend.
I don't care because I don't know where I am.
Oh, she really got the best of that spirit of conversation.
She whooped your ass.
But that's a real mature way to look at.
I agree with that.
Me too.
I agree with it.
My son of that.
Bro, the thought of getting dementia and Alzheimer's all of that
is scares the fuck out of me.
And I really feel like if you really love me,
take me out back like a dog and just get rid of me.
Don't have me wandering around the fucking cold sack,
assing for shit,
talking to neighbors.
I don't even fucking like it.
She's wandering around the coldest.
I got my motherfucking house dress on backwards.
Titties out.
In the fucking cul-de-zac.
Get rid of me.
Oh, that ain't seen none.
Nigger?
Oh, shit.
This is birthday.
But no,
when you don't think about
the worst ways to go,
those are one of the worst ways to go for me.
Yeah, that's scary.
Like, bro, that literally you just,
doing your regular, you go to Target.
You miss the while while.
You go every weekend and then you have a rural farm.
Just confused.
You don't know.
What the fuck going on?
What I mean?
But is it looking for the freshman out?
You can't figure out why you don't have a call for you love.
But look, outside looking at it might be the worst.
But to the person, they don't even know.
How is it that bad?
They don't know what the fuck.
It's got to be frustrating.
It's bad because I've watched so many documents.
It's levels of it.
Everybody is not totally zooted.
You might lose a day a week and then lose a couple days.
People in my family have had it.
And it starts the way on a family because think about somebody that you love that you would die for.
And now they don't know who you are.
That shit is crazy.
It's hard.
They start calling you your brother name.
They start calling you other people's names.
That shit is rough.
But you're speaking from the, I'm talking about the person.
Cool.
Now the person, you wake up, you looking at all these strangers.
You don't know who the fuck these people are.
You guys, this was just supposed to be fun.
Yeah, we don't care about.
Like, I just want to have some fun with.
I was trying to run it a little bit.
He got real dark.
It got a fun way.
God damn.
Yo, it never fails, though.
Anytime I'm trying to have fun, somebody says,
My family got that.
And then you got to shut up.
Everybody got somebody with their name family.
It don't matter.
Them niggas on dateline, them white people on dayline,
when they partner dying,
they go crush some pills up, drug them.
You know, take this.
On dayline, them white people,
I just thought about that when Mark was like,
yo, people believe in their vows,
and the vows mean something.
On dayline, them vows mean so much
that they will kill you before they divorce you.
Let's move that death date up a little bit.
Oh, my Lord.
Until death do us part.
But that's commendable from Jay Leno.
I mean, I also think you could get her a new boyfriend slash caretaker.
So we're even Stephen.
Yeah, but that's a lot of first dates.
And listen.
Stig of him, bro.
That's funny.
That's crazy.
Yeah, we're going to get her some motherfucking.
fucking Chippendale hospice
Oh shit
Chippendale hospice
She's some sexy
Hospice worker
I'm in the street
You're me
And I'm joking
I don't know if I would be in the street
I don't know if I would
I'd still come home
With the end of the night
Yeah
So what I'm saying
Chase Swift's the shifts
You know what I mean
Right there with you
Yeah that's true too
But like Chippin jails dude
Thanks for hold me down
I'm back
Right
Parks
So you would do
You'd be okay having a girlfriend
I would get her a boyfriend too though
Slash caretaker
Because for married people is
You know
You took vows and shit
We did
We did
I'm still there
Did
That's often
Just not like all day
Yeah you know
In 20
In 26
Are y'all still honoring
All the shit
Y'all said at the wedding
Yeah
Like every part of it
No they took
In 26
The married people in 26
Did I see getting divorced
Or getting divorced
Over
Kibble and shit
Or
I'm just tired of
snicking you.
It's bullshit.
That's the only reason I ask.
It's like,
it seems like today's married couples.
Till death.
Well, the love died.
There's the death.
We out here.
That's how they be.
Yeah, I'm good.
I can't, I can't see me leave it.
I can't see me leave it, babe.
Me is.
Off camera,
money offered a different take,
which explains a great deal.
Jay Leno, we're praying for you
and your wife.
Yes, we hope that she gets better.
We hope that you are all right.
in dealing with that because that's got to be heavy as well.
What else?
Kaisanat.
Kaisanat announced
that he's taking a break from streaming.
And he's venturing
off into fashion. Yep.
Oh. And he talked to La Roach
Fashion God.
What he's that? He talked to La Roach about it.
You know who La Roach is, right? Yeah.
Yeah. He talked, and he spoke to a lot of people.
He's doing vlogs. He's doing vlogs.
They following him. He's doing,
seems to be doing his due diligence
and learning about the fashion
textures and materials
and all this fashion shit.
And he says that he doesn't want to use his clout
to influence whatever he's got going on now.
He wants to really be a student of fashion.
It may not be possible, but it's cute to say it.
Yeah, honorable to say it and have a thought.
Thoughts on Kai Sinat,
stopping streaming,
learning how to read,
There's a lot of clips, Sam.
I'm not trying to be funny.
No, no, he is.
I think it's fucked up that they're killing him.
Yeah, I think it's fucked up.
They're killing them for reading the dictionary.
Yeah.
Like, looking up words is not a bad thing.
That's a great thing.
What?
Yeah, but I think it's the timing of it.
It's after the breakup.
Hold on.
I'm confused about that.
About what?
He can't read?
He's trying to read better.
He's trying to read better.
So he's reading and then in certain words, he'll stop and grab the dictionary
to look up to see exactly so I know what this word means.
Okay.
I love that.
Yeah, I think that's great.
And I mean, the joke of it for the people online is right after the breakup.
Yeah.
And that might not be a old joke.
Nigger, it tracks.
When you go through one of them breakups like we discussed.
You start finding ways to better yourself.
Like, niggas start going to the gym.
Niggas start jogging.
They're going to get money.
Yeah.
You start trying to better yourself.
Like, you know, wait till she see me next time.
With all these books.
With all these books is something.
But I just think that it'll sit you down and give you perspective.
you start doing the self-reflection.
And it's good for,
we live in a copycat society.
If we're going to copy all the dumb shit,
maybe not how's that an example
for people to read and learn.
What do y'all think about his fashion decision?
I think it's dope.
I don't know where it came from.
Like usually when somebody says
they want to get in their fashion,
usually that's kind of represented by their fashion
where at least they was fly
or they had a different look or whatever.
I just didn't see that coming.
I feel like he could do whatever he wants, though.
You know what I mean?
The way he stayed there.
I remember bumping to him on Clubhouse
because he was jumping on Clubhouse first,
way before the streaming thing got big or whatever.
He really stayed down and made it happen.
So I think a person like that could be successful in anything.
You know what I mean?
I agree with you, Mona.
I didn't think of him in the fashion world.
Yeah, me neither.
That doesn't mean he can't do it.
But, like, is there any indication from you, Joe,
or somebody who knows fashion?
Was that intuitive to you when you heard him say it?
It was cool.
He talked to La Roach.
It was really cool.
He took the law room.
He just not a fly nigger.
There's no disrespect to him.
He's not a fly niggins, so I didn't see it.
Oh, that's what we did.
Joe's going to punch me in the face.
This guy, yo, he's not
say intuitive to you?
That's someone in no fashion.
I think he'll do well.
I'm all for...
Let me start with.
I think there's more to this story.
Okay.
Everything I say is based on my belief
that there's more to
discuss and that stuff.
Agree. Just the timeline
for me with
the streamer awards,
Homeboy getting accused
to all that shit.
Her
looking a little
off kilter.
Don't forget the mental health
conversation.
Right after the mental health conversation,
just a cold
retirement from
streaming. That seems weird
because a lot of people including
whoever he's partnered with on the streaming end
and people that he works with on the production end
for his streaming, that's
a lot of money allegedly being
made over there. That's what I'm saying.
Even if he wanted to
normally when we see a pivot
is because somebody read
their contract and
now has a way to funnel
things back to them the right way
accordingly they've learned from whatever just
happen.
And typically, whoever you were signed to, don't really jive with that, especially when
you're a cash cow.
So even if he wanted to do that, I would imagine somebody from AMP or whoever he was affiliated
with would be like angry or have some emotions about it.
They might be.
Or we could really look at this like he's really going through some mental health shit.
And I don't have the emotional capacity to sit in front of this fucking microphone and
stream.
Oh, then it's the breakup.
I forgot.
I don't feel like doing that shit.
Yeah.
But usually corporations, large media corporations, don't give a fuck about your mental health at all.
And it depends on how much leverage he may have.
Yo, the young people, I'm with the young people prioritizing their mental health.
They drinking less.
They selling less drugs.
They fucking and getting married less.
They just fucking, I mean.
They're doing it their own way.
They're doing it.
Yeah, I'm happy for them.
I'm happy for them.
Go, Kassanat.
For sure.
I think he'll be great in the fashion world.
Can't wait to see what.
else he's got coming. And that fashion money
is insane, bro. For sure.
It's definitely, definitely understated.
It's a lot of money. Like if you have your own line?
Yeah. Like, I'm talking about
like your own line. Yeah.
Like different colors.
Cups. Different items.
All that. Yeah.
Like, for real, it's crazy.
And if something new happen, you could jump right
on it right away with your line. It's crazy.
Ralph Lauren, bro.
Ralph Lauren.
The fuck out of you.
In Forbes.
That is.
I need my dad's that issue.
quarter
quarter
I'm waiting on
quarter of the
quarter shit
that shit
that shit
that's hard
no
I'm
wait
give me
the quarter
shit
in a small
get
the fuck
out of here
look
they hate
he did
he didn't
look
they hate it
now
when the hate
don't work
they start
tell you
he might
need
an extra small
by something
yeah
let me get
down the
small
yo for real
when you
get free
um
um
what else
what else
what else
what else
what else
yeah
did you
you're going
back
to the moon next month?
I did not hear that. Well, first man
mission, they're sending humans back.
Back, and I'm saying back with air quotes, because
yes, I'm sorry, I don't believe it. But yeah, we're going
back to the moon. Well, you don't believe
that we ever been to the moon. That's why
I sang back like that.
I'm sorry, I don't want to go, I don't want to relitigate this, but I'm
not doing it. No, just to be clear. Do you think it's fine?
You're not just saying we didn't do it when we initially said.
You're saying never in history have we been to the moon.
How did we put men on the moon? Ever. Okay.
I think that moon landed was making.
It's been on television.
You know, some of the contrarian.
shit, I feel like niggas just hold on to...
Why, I gotta be contrarian. I just might not believe it.
That's all? That's contrarian.
No, no, contrarian is, okay, y'all all do this.
I'm doing the opposite of what you're doing just because y'all are doing.
We all believe we...
That's not what I'm saying. You're basing on the evidence.
I'm saying, I don't believe this.
So if I play Neil de Gros breaking down us on the moon for Madlaw, you still wouldn't give
up. Or the people like Buzz Aldrin who've been on the moon who came back and gave the
interviews and talked about being on the moon or all the other countries...
I also watch the movie wherever.
I can believe. I can believe either way.
I feel like some conspiracy theories we got to grow out.
Yes.
I'm as big a conspiracy theorist as they come, but some of them get dated.
I also just think they're fun, not necessarily to be taken serious in a lot of times.
But that's why they're not fun because people take them serious.
Like, none of us really think Stephen Wonder can see, right?
Like, we joke about it.
It's fun and makes some great stories, but like we don't really think he'd be driving cars and shit.
You ain't going to walk this thing to the steps and leave him.
I don't think he could drive a car.
I don't think he'd drive him.
but yeah, I think you can see.
Because he's rich, not because he spent too much time
playing instruments, not because he's blind.
I think I'm going to leave.
You want to leave?
Before you said that, I said we play around about Stevie being able to see,
but nobody would walk his blind ass to the steps and walk away.
And you're saying you do think he can see.
So you would walk his blind ass down the steps and just let him fall down the steps.
I don't think you'd fall.
Dred's first.
Dread.
Well, they walk him to every piano at the watch, you know.
I think you got one dread left.
Yeah.
And it's right here.
I think it said
Drain.
Like a snork.
No, Steve, he's not being in it.
Oh, my God.
Oh, you took it back with that.
Oh, shit.
I do think Steve you can see a little bit.
Oh, my gosh.
And I don't think that's as wild as
we've never been to the moon.
It's not.
It's not.
It's not.
It's not as concerning.
Well,
congratulations, I guess, to the people that are going to the moon.
Would you be down to go?
Yeah.
Interesting.
I would.
That's how, okay, I believe it now.
I would be down to go.
Would you think you were the first person?
Once you got there, would you be like, yo, I'm the first person like move?
Oh, yeah, I did.
Yo, yo, it's real.
It's real.
It's real.
It's real.
He's real.
Do you think it's flat?
Yo, man, we're not doing that.
Okay.
We're not.
Do.
Gil King went to the moon, right?
No.
No.
No.
No.
They just went right up there.
They went up and came back yet.
Gil Kinghead was a mess when she left the moon.
Bro, why?
She went to him all the way back.
Yeah.
What else?
What else?
What else?
What else?
What else?
And the moon.
Congrats.
To the moon.
Buzz light year.
If anybody was ever there.
Well, congrats to them.
Would you go even if your girl couldn't go with you?
Yes, bro.
I would go to the moon.
You think your girl let you go to the moon?
Yeah.
Without a.
Yeah.
All right,
Nick.
He had a tracker.
He ain't going to the moon.
You look a little closer to the Saturn.
You sent the moon.
That big booty bitch in the background on the...
All right.
Elliot got long hair.
What else?
What else?
What else?
What else?
What else?
How went out?
In New York.
I didn't experience it.
I didn't experience it.
Verizon sold, sold your data again.
For sure.
Yo, it happened.
We're so desensitized to it now that when the news break of the data leaks, I'd be like, damn, it just keeps scrolling.
Yep, yep.
They made off, made a whole bunch of money from our shit Verizon.
Y'all couldn't use the phone for hours.
19 hours.
No, it was a long time.
I don't know.
I'm not.
I'm not Verizon game.
And I don't call people.
Like, like us.
At first one, it went out.
They thought it was all of the companies, but then I like the other phone company shooting back.
like T-Mobile was like,
yeah, yeah, yeah, we good.
That's just them.
AT&T was all like,
no, no, no, no.
Reason why it's not working
because you're calling them Verizon phone.
We straight over here.
And if you want to come over here,
here's the link.
Can T-Mobile join the phone wars?
Of course.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Oh, because you're merged.
Yeah.
Now, right?
I'm so old.
I still remember when they was
they were body cells.
Oh, man.
Who they merged with again?
Sprint.
Oh, yeah, they big dog now.
Big dog now.
That is spending big money.
God damn.
Singular.
Wait until I make a phone.
Dog.
I'm telling you, I'm going to make something.
That meant mobile and all that shit made a...
Mint mobile?
Maybe when this was the last one with a blackberry holding on
because he thought the feds was tracking him?
It was the last one with the blackberry.
It was in that case.
You and...
I remember you, dog.
I'm sorry.
He was in corporate.
A lot of the corporate people used BlackBerry.
Yeah, fucking corporate.
We had a blackberry pen and all that.
Fucking corporate.
We all had a wholeola, hold on.
I don't say that.
We all had a Blackberry pen.
Tell me something that was better than BBM.
I didn't have a blackberry pen.
It did not exist.
I loved the trio, the Palm Trio.
I had one.
That was my shit.
But yeah, no, we all have, you.
Yeah, I'm with you.
The days.
Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see.
We did Khyde.
Speaking of outages.
There we go.
Thanks, Mark.
Speaking of outages, I see on the board, and I know nothing about this.
It says power goes out at Jim Jones's studio.
Can somebody help me understand what happened?
Yeah, apparently.
I mean, I saw 50 cent posted.
I don't know how.
I have no clue.
But 50 cent posted would look like someone standing behind like a curtain or some shit recording
inside Jim Jones' studio.
and they were asking like, hey, I mean, there and there were flashlights,
and they're asking, you know, if we call Con Ed, can we get the power back on?
And he's been making jokes nonstop since he's put the clip up there with turn off the lights in the background.
Oh, shit. Teddy P.
Yeah, Teddy P. Yeah. He went Teddy P. on.
Wow.
But it's just more...
For the people that don't live in New York, it was 15 degrees at 4.30 a.m.
It's been cold as a bitch.
Winter's back.
Arctic cold out.
It was about 19 degrees around 5.
Good time to add some heat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was cold.
And then Jim is on it online leaning into it.
Of course.
Sitting in the darkness surrounded by candles.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Same way he was doing the construction.
Whatever he did himself.
That's the thing about Jim.
Jim said it.
He was like, yo, I'm, anytime y'all talk about me.
I learned it now.
I'm going to play the algorithm.
Y'all going to talk about me.
I'm gonna play along with it.
That's a good way to lean in.
So whether it's true or not,
don't matter.
You got the out.
You know what I mean?
I'm sure he can afford to pay the electric bill.
It probably was either a power allergy
that he couldn't control
or it didn't happen.
But either way it's funny.
The realist niggas done had their fucking lights cut off.
Oh, I didn't know.
What the concern needed to be is who the fuck was behind that church?
That's what I want to know.
That's what I want.
Probably the same person that was on the phone with 50,
giving him all of his lease information.
That's crazy.
That was crazy.
But with that type of footage, you can kind of figure it out.
Especially if you're on cameras, you can figure out who the fuck that is.
Unless you have like an open door where everybody can just come whenever.
You know what I mean?
As long as you know who being your shit, you can figure it out because you're getting your ass with for doing that to me.
It's no discussion.
I'm going to act like everything cool.
You're going to get in here.
We're going to cut the lights out on you.
You're going to get your ass with.
Because you know what you did, nigga.
We ain't going to ask your questions.
That's just some grimy, cool.
Now you're going to turn the lights off on them?
Yeah, we're going to jump this thing.
You're going to have a lock in the sock?
Maybe, dude.
Exactly what used to happen in boarding school.
You come in somebody room, there's all the niggas from that floor in there.
They got a sock with the soap in.
And they start to commence the beating your ass with.
That's why I was in board school?
Oh, my God.
Board and school, it was like, it's like, yeah.
Yeah.
Did they ever beat you up?
In boarding school, yeah.
In the room in the dark?
No, in class.
Damn.
That was like a one-on-one.
You got beat up in geometry?
Jonathan Isaacs.
You know, what?
who on top now, bitch.
You see y'all diggers carry their trauma with him.
I know the name anybody
ever beat me up.
Jonathan Isaacs was the
six, nine freshman
that,
that what they called him?
Well, he was on the basketball team
on the freshman team
and they were looking to
they were looking to see if he could develop
and make varsity.
And you started to fight with him?
He's better boxing.
Yeah, we were in class
and yeah.
I said,
some. He said, say it again.
He said it again. I said it again.
I said it again. Probably worse, too.
He got up first.
I didn't have all the fighting tools and knowledge.
Oh, no, that way he got up.
Oh, that's he coming over here for?
The six-d-old.
Oh, shit.
That nigga dunked your dunds.
Now, I think about it.
Anytime I got beat up, I got dumped like that.
The funny shit, I was sitting in the desk.
And the desk at the time was the, oh, man, this is so old school.
It was the desk that was attached.
The one piece of it.
You can't get out some shit.
Nah, you get that.
When I tell you, John, then picked that old desk up.
Wow.
In the air.
Boom.
Say it again.
Put the head to the other than that.
And just went back to his feet.
And you got up and they say nothing.
You say it again.
Joe said it again.
That's the, Corey Holcomb drew.
That's why you fucking anti-prack.
He got up and moved that desk back and said to fuck this.
Oh, man.
sat right to fuck back there.
I'm sorry that happened to you.
You know, A square plus B square teacher.
I can honestly say I have never been in a fight
where I didn't hit back.
Like, that's some pussy-ass shit.
Thanks.
I'm hitting you back.
Fuck that.
You wanted to kill me up here.
No, sometimes you make a business decision.
That's a fact.
You do a lot.
Don't make it worse.
As a man, sometimes you make a business.
You start to get a calculation.
The numbers start falling like,
you know.
I guess it's a big.
Stand up, pick you in your chair up and throw you.
I guess that would be best to sit back in.
No, he was a real 6-9, 6-10 arms down to his knees.
And they're using him long arms.
He likes him freckled nigger with red hair with anger issues.
It's hard being light skin with the red hair.
Yo, what school is that?
Lorinberg, in North Carolina.
You're trying to find him.
Are we going to find that, nigga?
Stop before you get mad again.
Throw that whole couch off the balcony.
What that got to do with me?
Oh, my God.
That is crazy.
That's funny.
What do you mean?
Because if you slid me, you can slid you.
We different slots.
It's not.
No, no.
No, same part.
Yeah, you're both slots.
Same part.
Y'all both slots.
Let me see.
What else?
What else?
What else?
What else?
His and hers.
Let's go.
Have it.
Has it heard.
Let's bring this bullshit down.
Audience, I've been waiting to talk to y'all about his and hers since way before y'all was waiting for me to talk about his and hers.
but last few pods
the whole crew was like
Oh I'm on episode one
Yo I just started
I'm on episode one
I'm on episode three
And I'm like all right
Y'all watch it
So we can talk about it
Because if there was ever
If there were ever a show
Made for a podcast to discuss
Sure
It's this one
Six episodes
His and Herds
Married
Married couple who done it
They opened with somebody dead
You got five episodes
To figure out who did it
Then they throw you
90 million
Curbball.
That's what I hated about it.
And I guess that's jumping ahead, but whatever.
When they do the twist at the end and be like,
psych, it wasn't that the whole time?
It's like, why did I just watch six hours of this bullshit?
I hate twists like that.
I hate twists like that.
Couple of your ears, Antoine or Ice.
I'm not even, man.
I'm not even, man.
I want episode two.
And on episode two.
This is about to get spoiled for you there.
Yeah, the first.
I'm about to spoil it.
Like, use the bathroom.
Go pee through something.
I'm going to spoil it.
I'm out of it.
I'm telling you.
But I'll tell you where I left off.
At the end of episode one, you knew who did it.
Like you just knew, you thought you knew who did it.
Then at the end of episode two, you were like, so, so far this shit is fire because
the shit that is predictable, be asked to me.
The shit that really puts your mind in a twit, that shit is fire.
So I'm on episode two.
It was something.
But I'm going ahead.
Yeah, step off.
You want yourself.
It should got an eminite, shamoline.
That's what I took from it.
Like I said, I kept trying.
I haven't made it past one.
I just be like, all right, I'm out.
Listen, the show's been out long enough.
Listen, even if I don't spoil it by telling you who did it,
because maybe some of y'all still need to see it,
I'm definitely going to talk about who didn't do it.
Sure.
I was intrigued off the bat by the cast.
I love dude from Walking Dead and Punisher and all that shit.
He's great all the time.
Tessa is also great and everything.
And the cop dude was in Orange and the New Black
and a bunch of other shit.
he's good.
He plays kind of the same character,
but he's a good dickhead dude,
the cameraman dude.
Yeah.
And Rem had read the book,
which also kind of ruined it for me too
because, like,
part of the whodot it fun
in a relationship is both guessing who done it.
Oh, yeah.
But she knows the whole time,
so it's kind of like,
she's just watching you guys.
Yeah, she's watching me guess.
I don't care for that.
Do she do to try to play along with you like,
oh, yes.
Yeah, that pissed me off.
Stop.
Don't be a little being in this way.
Yeah, yeah.
By episode
By the end of episode two
I thought that it could still be Anna
I thought it might be one of those
Whedonididder's where the suspect is
Right there right there in front of your face
Right
I thought it could still be Anna
By episode three I was off of that
When
When I learned that Duffy
Was fucking his wife
And Helen
Yeah
I said okay
It's Duffy
Right
then I thought it was
Homeboy's sister for a second
Okay
For two seconds
She got that little off
Kind of vibe
Yeah
And then she had the shit in the drawer
That was coming up
Like somebody had to have
The little friendship bracelet
And then by the time
They kept going on with this friendship bracelet story
And they made it seem like
It had to be one of the girls in the crew
Right
I immediately guessed
Who I won't say
which ended up being the person before the person.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like I guessed her.
And I did, I did, by episode, by the end of four, I figured out who it was.
Really?
Yeah.
He was right?
Yeah, I was, I guessed the last two people.
I guess the fat girl.
Okay.
I'm just talking about it.
I guess the fat girl from the friend group and I guessed the mom.
Okay.
I did not see the mom coming.
And I hated the way they, I hated the way they revealed it with a fucking stupid
lettered mom.
monologue at the end. Come on, man.
Kaiser Sosei.
They were doing their Kaiser Sose style.
That shit is pretty.
It was entertaining still this while.
Oh, super entertaining.
Listen, the first time that they showed the mom just walking through highways, I was like, okay, something's odd about you.
Right.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
But listen, really good entertaining show.
I can't lie.
Yeah.
And it's quick.
It keeps you in it.
Like, I don't know how these guys are.
I don't know.
Yeah, that episode is only half hour or some show.
I couldn't.
I'll try.
I mean, I'll try it.
Do you and Ish get to control the remote in your house?
Yes.
Or do y'all's girl control the remote?
Like, y'all take a long time for certain, like, dude shit.
Says the person that you can't finish a show if your girl ain't there.
Cool.
You?
Well, I like watching shows my girl.
Oh, okay.
All right, all right.
But, yeah, but no, I don't know.
Just this one didn't do it for me.
That's it.
I'm watching and I'm getting, like, next to you know, I'm distracted,
and I'm not paying attention no more.
I got to go back again.
I just, I have not made it past one.
You know, I was pretty good with a crazy sister, too.
I mentioned it briefly.
The John Ham Show on Apple, your friends, your neighbors, or whatever.
That's a good show.
It's only one season.
I cut that off after, yeah, rightfully so, too.
I cut it off after episode seven.
Really?
You didn't like it?
By episode seven, they annoyed me.
Okay.
Fair enough.
By episode seven, he then met the girl.
It's starting a robbery business.
He keeps going to the pawn shop.
It's like, yo dog.
Get to what we get into.
And then he's escalation.
and he starts with the watches, then he gets to the art,
then he gets to, now he's just breaking in everybody.
So I was just like, all right, buddy, all right.
Where are we going with this?
So I never finished it.
I like the show.
It was good.
It was good finale?
I did.
It wasn't.
Was it a good finale?
Yeah, it wasn't.
And they're setting up season two.
It's happening.
Oh, it is happening.
Yeah, it's happening.
It wasn't amazing.
It was kind of, it was a little bit better than his and hers to me.
It's like entertaining.
It's not amazing, gripping television, but it's an entertaining show.
If it were done in six episodes, I would agree.
Okay.
How many episodes was it?
Nine?
It might have been 10.
It might have been 9.
Yeah, they wasn't getting 10 out of me.
Did you get into hunting party back yet?
Not yet.
And I ain't going to lie.
I turned on the first episode of hijacking.
Cut that motherfucker off.
Oh, really?
I cut that off.
Yeah.
I saw it sitting there by watching.
I might have made it about 15 minutes in.
I was like, yeah.
I cut it right off.
You just got off the plane survived.
Now you're on the train looking dumb in the face.
I'm not doing this with him.
Wait, so they're just going to make the hijacking the train now?
Yes, yeah.
Oh, God.
From the same.
But even you can see the
It's like a same story
Dude getting on the show like you see it all already
And I'm like
Yeah I'm not letting them do that to me this year
I mean I'll get to it but it wasn't at some point
I'm gonna watch this right now
I'm gonna watch it but I'm not rushing to it either
And since we're on TV
They're also ain't really shit out
I'm not gonna spoil it
Because it probably just aired today or so
But uh they found they aired the series finale
Of power force
Oh you can take it's one away
All right, buddy.
We don't care.
We don't care about that.
I'm with ice on this.
We're done, y'all.
We're done.
You watching it too, work?
So I can't let anything go.
You watch all you guys.
I watched Empire to the last episode.
Oh, my Lord.
Same?
So I haven't finished force, but I will because I started it.
But I was going to ask y'all if y'all have watched Heated Rivalry.
What's that?
No.
It's their newest rage.
It's all over the internet.
People are talking about it.
It's a, it's a short, it's a series.
I think it's streaming on HBO Max.
It's about two gay hockey players.
I did not watch that one.
Damn, Ice put his phone away quick.
No, I found it.
Oh.
You said HBO Max.
I was trying to see where it was at.
Oh, okay.
I saw them on the Golden Globes, but yeah.
Women are going crazy.
Women are really into it.
They're watching it.
They say it's amazing.
They're into the dudes that are playing the protagonists or whatever.
But also I hear it's just good writing and a good show.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I think we should all-time.
HBO needs one.
As a group outing, watch it.
What's name of it?
He did.
I don't like the group outing part of that.
Oh, this layer said.
I didn't even mean it like that, but that's good.
Mark, you have to be joking, you know.
I heard it's an amazing show.
I don't care about the show.
Five minutes ago, you joined the 2016 challenge?
You think I did it myself?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I had auto time.
I didn't know I was sitting here, but yes, I picked the photos in the text, yeah.
So then you did it, you did it.
I thought you were saying with that.
I thought you were talking about me doing it on the show.
I don't know.
It's just the fact that you joined this two.
2016. Somebody help me.
I'm lost to. Everybody's
2016, 2016, 2016, 2016.
I woke up and Roxy Diaz was doing 2016.
Mark, you were in that one, too.
What am I missing?
I think for a lot of people, 2016,
well, one, we know it's 10 years ago, but why,
like, they didn't do it last year for 2015.
But for 2016, that was like the last
amazing summer that a lot of motherfuckers are.
Oh, my.
Yo, you know, Mark.
Mark.
Mark.
Mark.
Can you get a paper towel, please?
I just spit Gatorade all over my white couch.
It's coffee. It hit the couch.
It all hit me.
I wish it hit the couch.
It's crazy.
It's just a child.
That's what I was.
It's on you and the couch.
Can you learn how to keep liquids in your mouth?
Please pause.
Oh, all right.
That was crazy.
Hell.
What happened?
What did he say that was funny?
I didn't say two words to this digger, bro.
I didn't say nothing.
That's his game.
He doesn't say anything.
You know what he does.
It's a face.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, this is an audio adventure.
No, like I was saying.
For a lot of people, 2016 was the last, like, amazing summer.
It's amazing year.
Pre-Trump, right?
Yeah, it was pre-Trump, yeah.
So it was like that was the good, the good times down there and before shit went and got fucked up.
Before the pandemic.
COVID.
We're here now.
So I could see why some people would want to remember 2016.
Those were good times.
2016 was amazing.
It was amazing.
2016 deserves to be, have a tribute.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's how I feel about it.
I mean, it's been 10 years, so I get why people are just marking 10 years.
But I'm just saying, like, I don't remember last year people doing the...
They didn't.
They didn't.
That's what I'm saying.
I think 2014.
So now you say, why 2016 and you start to think what 2016 meant?
It was very special year.
It was a very special year.
A lot of people.
Not judging by these picks.
Let me see.
All right, you met the Rizza in 2016.
These are jobs I had.
This was like when my career took a hold and trying to clean it up.
You met the Riza.
That was big.
You met Patti LaBelle.
That was big.
you met Jesse Powell
That's Jesse Williams
and that's me co-hosting
Harry Belafonte's music festival
Wait
Jesse Powell
Wait
You met Jesse Williams
Why are Jesse's
You met Carlos Santana
We were working with
You met Donald Glover
Danny Glover
You're saying anybody you met
Okay
It's Danny Glover
These are people I met
These are me
This is me at major events that I was doing
I was hosting a BET special
MTV special
You met Harry Bluffer
Harry Belafonte.
His last major interview.
That's huge.
You met Belle Biv DeVote.
On my late night talk show that launched.
You keep making it sound like I'm just meeting people.
It just sounded like you're a groupie.
I wasn't going to say that.
I didn't see the pictures.
But the way he making it sound like.
Ice, look at these pictures, yo.
They look like groupie pictures.
Oh, those are we working pictures?
Yeah.
No.
Exactly.
No, no.
I'm talking about what niggins took a picture.
Yes.
Yes.
That's what it is.
We working.
I hate these things.
He's like, yeah.
He's definitely reworking.
Because if you was just big enough like your show,
we are some of the people that work your show
from behind the scenes.
Like, we're the people that help keep the show running.
There's the whole power cast right there.
I see why you're still watching.
That was the first power cast.
You're right.
You're right.
But yeah, that's when power was popping.
They all did a surprise visit on the set of VH1 Live,
which was my show.
So that was the point.
In 2016, it was the big year.
And then I realized, like, oh, that was the big year.
That's before I started talking about.
certain things.
Yo, you was Photoshopping your face
on the promo for this tonight, this VH1
live show. That's my real face.
Mark.
It's 10 years ago. I was 35.
36.
No, buddy, you photoshopping your face.
VH1 launched that.
Anyway, I agree with y'all.
2016 was a great year for music.
It was a great summer.
It was a great year.
Was that rage?
Or was that 2050?
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
2016 was big.
Time was changed.
What was you doing in 2016?
That was my final album.
Yeah, or a tour.
That was my last album.
Rage against the machine.
Raging the machine.
Torn.
That's the, that's the year I said,
you know what?
I'm about to change my life around.
Sure enough.
You think it's supposed in 2016,
it's like a throwback, throwback.
Ten years is a throwback, though.
Especially considering all the shit we don't been through?
That's what I'm saying.
Shit was different.
Donald Trump wasn't president yet.
Like it was a different world
We was no Obama was president
It was different man
This man Trump voters out there talking about 2016
Shut up
This ain't for y'all
This ain't for y'all at all
I don't want to be the dark
dark gloomy guy
But the motherfucker I say it all the time
Them pandemic summers were great
They were
They were I had a blast
The pandemic summers were all some of the best
If you're a fan of no traffic
Oh that's yes what I was pandemic
It was
pandemic.
Shout to fraud.
Shows for it.
Shouts the fraud.
It was the line out of Louis Vuitton,
Gucci, sacks, all.
You had to wait to get in that motherfucking.
Crazy.
And people would be talking on shit.
Oh,
them now the broke niggas out the bar.
I was happy to see niggas
that don't normally wear shit like that,
wear shit like that.
That's a good point.
Everybody had them big ass belitts dey Jaggers on.
You ain't talking about land man.
I'm not watching it.
Why did your mouth drop like that on your birthday?
I'm not watching it.
What?
I watched the first episode.
It was great.
I was like, nope.
Letting it sit.
Oh, I thought you meant nope like this shit.
No, I'm letting it sit.
Okay.
You know I'm letting it sit.
It's land, man.
I'm not doing that episodic shit.
It's the season finale already just came on.
Oh, that can't be true.
That cannot be true.
That's not the finale.
The finale got to be this week.
But either way,
listen, Amani was hipping me to the TikTok couple that broke up and got divorced,
which is the only reason I'm saying.
the Desmond Scott dude was spotted out kissing a girl.
And it was a big deal.
What the fuck did people expect him to do?
What did people think he was going to do?
He was cheating, though, Joe.
That's why they're upset about it because supposedly he cheated and that's what happened.
But I need divorce.
No, no, no.
And you keep saying supposedly don't make it factual.
It's brand new.
No, no.
I'm saying supposedly because I don't know what somebody is.
I went back and watch some of them videos now to get a little educated.
Yes, he cheated on her.
Yes, he cheated on that lady.
Who is shocked by that?
Did y'all see the videos?
Of her wilding, right?
Do, that lady is off in the head.
Mind you, the only video that I saw,
because she's a really pretty girl,
but the first video I saw,
she's doing the flips in the shoe store,
and he's in the background, right?
And when she flips and jump up and shake her ass,
the son, they're in a shoe store, not a cheap one,
and this bitch is doing flips
and the stiletto's he about to buy.
That's the point of the video.
But her views is crazy.
People like her, that's her brand.
But that's her thing, like,
I should put a random taco costume on.
and run around. She just wanted them. Nice house,
nice car, nice whatever, but she's kind of wild.
And he lived there. He's a chef.
He'd just be at the stove trying to make his little food.
And he looks so annoyed. And here she
come back flipping this shit.
But Chicago can't say nothing because y'all making bread from it.
The video, exactly. And it was her bop.
It wasn't his. But at the end of the day,
on that video that I'm talking about ICE, when she does the flips and
turn around the twerk, the son flips and turns around to shake his ass too.
That's the first thing that it took out to me because the dad was right there.
And I'm like, well, just me as a woman
and being in a family structure with my kids, right?
Certain shit, dad just never allows.
I'm not saying whether I allow or don't allow,
whatever, we ain't even going to get into all that.
But just from what I know, most dads I know,
video would have been cut off, the snick would have been grabbed,
everything doing off.
You're not even posting that bitch.
The fact that she could still post that,
I know the type relationship they had.
He cheated a lot because that bitch is annoying.
And them fucking kids, he only liked them kids.
You fucked them up.
I told you stopped doing this constant shit with these children.
Yeah, they all boo-joo.
I ain't going on.
holds you sometimes the internet act surprised about
shit and then I go check it out and be like
oh yeah yes
because I saw this a mile away
yes he was cheating on this girl
and they're both attractive parks they're both
attractive people she's just annoying
you heard me
there's annoying but wait but but
wait but wait but hold up hold up
hold up because some bullshit is coming
it's not
only that she was annoying
being with her
at least in the videos that I
saw could be emasculating.
How, Joey.
Okay, now you're on to something.
Yes.
How, tell me y'all, what the fuck?
You know what you're describing?
Yeah, I can see that.
You know what's crazy?
If you, we can't do shit.
You can't scratch a titty without like being damasculating.
How are me doing flips and my shit trying to get my little account up?
How the fuck does that demasculate you?
Nigger.
It's email.
I didn't say, whatever.
I didn't say you couldn't tell me not to flip in the video.
I'm still flipping in the video.
How what I'm doing making you less of like what happened?
You just said it.
It answered it without answering it.
I don't want to fight you though.
What with the sun join?
No, yeah.
And you said, yo, she was allowed to put that out,
maybe against his wishes.
Okay, I guess.
I hate when I'm going on.
In most of the videos, I saw he was made out
to look like a chunk.
A sucker.
Forget the fact that he looked a little uncomfortable.
He's in the background looking like.
The punching back.
You know, the funny way to say is,
looked like he was about to go cheat.
But yeah, he looked like he didn't want to be there.
He looked like he didn't really agree to how he was being presented.
But hold on, but deepening that, how he was being presented to the world as a man looked away.
And then your partner is actually getting gigs from this shit.
Your partner's at the fucking Emmys.
Your partner, and I don't know where she was, but she started to get a bunch of gigs.
The part that I don't get is that.
When I see him, the first thing I think is he may not like it.
he's not into it.
I don't straight think that he couldn't say he couldn't do it.
You know what I mean?
To me, I'm more feeling that maybe he is that comfortable as a man
that that doesn't bother him.
You understand?
I'm saying in general, I don't get that concept
where it's like y'all say shit like that
and it's like it only matters to y'all.
The opposite sex might not be looking at you in that way,
but a man-to-man thing, y'all looking at him like a bitch-ass.
You was looking at him like a bitch-ass nigger.
Shut up, just that one time.
I'm trying to pot here.
That was my point, Joe.
I don't think annoying necessarily makes you cheat.
I mean, some people just cheat because they want some.
No, that's just a pod joke.
I'm talking shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
I mean, sometimes people just cheat because they want something different.
I get that.
You know what I mean?
Because everybody's partner's annoying on some level, right?
And everybody makes their own choices about what they're going to do with it.
But that other point, I think, is it.
A lot of times dudes, at least that I talk to,
when they feel like their masculinity is compromised and you play into that.
That shit will make you, you almost want to feel like a man again.
And the best way to feel like a man for a lot of dudes
is to go out there and find something else
because you feel like you don't feel like that at home.
That's common. Whether you agree with that notion of masculinity or not, that's how people will be feeling.
I want to play a clip.
It matters.
Yeah.
Stops fighting for you.
When a man stops fighting for you, understand something.
He didn't stop caring.
You taught him his effort doesn't matter.
Every gesture dismissed.
Every attempt to lead met with resistance or criticism.
That isn't him giving up on you.
That's him finally accepting the pattern.
Men don't bond.
through talking about feelings.
They bond through action, through providing, through showing up, and having that presence felt.
When a man offers his time, his resources, his protection, and you treat it like it's expected instead of valued,
something inside him shifts, not dramatically, quietly.
He doesn't announce he's pulling back.
He just stops extending himself into spaces where he's not honored.
That is self-preservation.
That is maturity.
And here's what women miss.
A good man doesn't need you to perform or be perfect.
He needs you to receive what he gives with grace.
He needs his effort to be met with appreciation, not demands for more.
When you weaponize his consistency, when you take his stability for granted, you create the very distance you'll later cry about.
Men don't go cold because they're heartless.
They go cold because warm doesn't work when it's not reciprocated.
If he's still showing up, still trying,
honor that before he stops trying altogether.
Energy matches energy every single time.
I usually hate this kind of content, but that was cool.
Oh, my God, first.
If it's a fucking beat in the back of it,
I don't want to hear that shit.
I normally hate the sappy shit, too,
but she was absolutely clicking.
And I think a lot of people out there may need to hear that.
So that was a good time for it.
And also, like she said, once that distance is created,
guess what's happening?
Well, she didn't say this.
I'm saying that.
Another bitch.
And then you're going to say,
that's cheating you had somebody all the time no no no no no that's not how it works cheating is
much deeper than the actual act what's going on in the house like home boy was an attractive
dude but do you think he met somebody that he felt comfortable putting his tongue in her throat a day
after his divorce is announced no i don't think that'll be well unless you're dragging
maybe a little drunk i'm getting drunk and make out because because when the wife is loved
online.
Period.
You're going to get killed
no matter what.
It doesn't matter
if you were a good guy
or you're the bad guy.
If you are just
the background guy
they take her side.
Like literally in her comments
if you just go to her page now
it's people like
fuck him
I don't care what happened.
What time we're going
to go kill him
with a
damn?
Yeah with like a meme
and people with knives
and shit
like that.
And sidebar
she hasn't said shit
that bitch went
got a bob
and every bitch in America
was like
fuck him girl
cut that hair
he cheated bitch.
You know what that barred
Yeah.
Because if we get the bob, hell, come on.
I pull out the bob, nigga.
I'm on some shit.
And you got to suck.
Y'all talking about all that dictionary, rega.
If we cut bobs, it's going to fuck down.
She's not going to start bobbing.
She's done with you and she's going to suck a dick with it.
For apples.
And she's going to suck a dick.
Beware of that bob when that bitch going to get that bob.
If she get a taper with the fade, it's over.
Mm-hmm.
We all want to be in reverse.
Shout to all my black girls with a pixie cut, man.
It was chili on the back of that neck.
I love you.
All right, I think this is a new part of the show
that I can read for the first time with all of us here.
Hey.
This is from Vanessa.
Hey, Vanessa.
Vanessa says, hey, y'all.
A little background before I get to the question.
My man and I started dating while we had a baby on the way.
It's a good time to start dating.
What do you mean?
Wait, huh?
Oh, no, I'm sorry, right there wrong.
My man and I started dating.
I think it's ice here?
Right there.
My man and I started dating while he had a baby on the way.
Oh, that's different.
They separated very early in her pregnancy with no chance of reconciling,
and somehow I didn't see it as a red flag, so here we are.
That's a whole other story for another day.
Baby was born early into our relationship.
Him and I moved in together right after that,
and since then, the baby has had solo overnight stays,
at our home starting from two months old.
Fast forward.
One year.
Baby is now spending equal time between us and the obsessed with me mother.
Oh, shit.
I do majority of the caretaking when the baby is with us because F.A.
Oops.
What's F.A.?
Financial abuse.
Oh.
When the baby is with us because FA?
Yeah.
I meant to do this to allow dad to maintain his daily routine.
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about now.
I'm taking this role because he's paying for everything.
He paying the bills.
So I'm going to stay home and take care of the kid when the kid is here.
Okay.
Because of this, naturally, me and baby have formed a very strong bond.
Our nanny asked me a question that I hadn't considered.
What title will I want baby to call me?
I hate Vanessa.
A few of you, a few of you are stepdad's aside from being parents.
to your own children who now have a bonus parent.
What is your opinion from both the stepdad point of view and the parent point of view?
And does the gender of the baby change the answer?
Side note, I was one of the very first email submissions to be read on air back with the original cast on my third relationship and countless JCP cast updates since we're still going strong, baby.
All right, shout to me.
Please can I go first only because I feel like this is written to step date.
when it's a stepmom up here.
I was a stepmom before.
Number one,
the baby should call you Vanessa, bitch.
Yep.
If you like anything fancy,
we could put a miss on it.
But mom and shit,
step parents don't do that.
We don't do that.
If the kid grows into
calling you mom on his own,
has that conversation with the mom,
calling you dad on his own,
had a conversation with the real dad,
then we go there.
But you bitch and the nanny
don't put together,
I'm gonna have this bitch calling me
Mama Cita or whatever the fuck it is,
right?
That's number one.
Number two,
Who the fuck fucks a nigga with a
Who wife's a nigga with a baby on the way?
Vanessa? I already tell what type of bitch you are, girl.
Because first of all, you can't never listen to what the nigger say
When it comes to the baby mom, you have to count both sides and you can't.
So why would you take them serious when you have a baby?
Now you raise another bitch baby.
Want this baby to call you mom?
He don't have no interest in coming in you because he already got a baby.
Now you're about to cause a bunch of problems because you want a baby.
No, you're a glorified babysitter.
That's what step parents are until the kid get close to the step-parent.
Step-parent can't get close to the kid.
You got some trauma on this
Not only do I not have trauma on it
I was in relation with a guy
Our kids were similar ages
His baby mom was ridiculous
I never beat the lady up
I always got the little girl closed
I made sure when we purchased the house
That we got her own bedroom
I can remember arguing with him
Like oh why it's because you know it's like
20 30 extra when you get another bedroom
Sometimes right
His whole thing oh she only comes over
No she needs to come and enjoy her room
Without my daughter or my kid
messing up her stuff
You know what I mean
I know what it feels like
My father had a lot of bitches.
I know what that felt like going with my father to one house.
And my experience depends on the bitch he fucking and how she carried me or how her kids carried me.
I felt that before.
So when I got into a situation where I was somebody stepmom, all the rules were surrounded
by what I felt like as a kid, period.
And that was like the bonus of it.
I knew how that felt.
I see a lot of women and men make so many mistakes in the stepparent category when really
it is a beautiful thing.
I kind of had a step parent for most of my coming up.
You know what I mean?
but it's like it's a way to do that shit
and it's so easy to go too far
or be disrespectful. Most of the boundaries
have to be in place by the parent
which is dad but dad working, dad doing whatever.
Vanessa, don't let that little girl call you mom,
bitch.
I'm in agreement with regards to the name.
Like, yo, I think
is sufficient.
Like, my girl got a son.
He's 20 something, 25.
And he calls me ish.
Just ish, not Mr. Ish, not Uncle Ish.
It caused me.
Ish. And that's sufficient.
Can I say some names? I think he called you?
No. Any other girl that I dated, again,
I've dated girls that had kids and they call me ish.
Like, I don't think that that mom-dad shit, I think that's a stretch.
I agree. And I think to Mona's point, if the girl, because she's been around a girl
since she was two months old, I think if the girl develops that bond with you
and wants to call her second mom or her whatever, I think that has to be.
decides that. There has to be a decision on the child.
Right.
But you can't tell that kid.
Call me this.
Yeah, I don't think that.
And how many, I know I have had friends that every nigga she date that kid,
them kids got to call a dad, the nigga dad.
Because it's a pattern thing.
Like you get into that.
I get why people want to do it because it feels like a family.
Some people even think, oh, well, you won't hurt my kid if they call you dad.
When it's not true, you picked the wrong person, that person was still hurt, abuse,
hurt, you know what I mean?
Assault, sexual, whatever.
But I think that's why people do it.
People want that family dynamic right away.
At the end of the day, my kids have stepmoms.
I wish my motherfucking son would come home and say,
can I call this bitch mom?
I just couldn't even imagine the conversation, you know?
But that's what it has to be.
It has to be like that, you know?
It's happened once with my girl's kid,
but it was an accident.
And I corrected it right away.
Like, we both did.
No, no, we don't, no.
We nipped that in the bud.
My step dad, you should tell me I'm not your father.
All the time.
You're going to have the trauma bond later.
It's not a trauma bond.
It's not.
It's not.
My stepfather would tell me I'm not your father.
He would say it all the time.
You know, I'm not your dad.
As an affirmation of like, I'm not your father.
No, it would just be like, I feel like he was always showing respect to my day.
Like, I think he, now looking back, he was intimidated.
My dad was a street nigga.
He was a cop.
So I think he was a little intimidated by the nigga.
But he was constantly like, he never wanted it to be like, that was his shit with me.
You know what I mean?
I was just a manipulative person.
So I called a nigga dad if I asked for $20.
I ain't give a fuck.
I dropped my hand.
You know?
They let her cut me on.
That's what's up.
Vanessa, I hope we were able to help.
Vanessa, I don't like you.
And I don't like when y'all
speak to me first.
Put me in the journal.
You see me sitting here.
They'll come off and go,
Hey, me and he flipped.
I like that.
I like when they do that.
This bitch was you could tell.
She don't know I'm here.
This bitch.
Tap the fuck in.
I wrote with the first crew and all.
Like, girl, nobody care about that.
The first crew is dead and going.
I mean, them is alive, but they're not here.
That's the clip.
She's talking about it.
What the fuck?
I'm going to start picking clips because I'm getting tired of the clips that you're
picked.
I'm out here trying to get a nigga.
You out here trying to get a nigga.
A little bit, not really.
I do have a show this weekend.
Anybody?
What did you say?
Yes, I have a show.
I don't say anything.
New Brunswick.
Yes.
Oh, shit, winning.
Oh, my God, the 18.
Get your tickets.
There's still a couple tickets left.
Would you know it?
I might go.
Sunday?
I might go.
Mike Schmite.
No, actually, I am going to go.
Y'all go.
Who matters?
People to buy tickets.
I ain't doing nothing Sunday.
If I look in the crowd and I see you, I'm fucking ex-up this weekend.
How big is the venue?
It's big enough that I can see you in that hair line from the stage.
So if you dare, come.
Yo, that's a little.
You too, skinny.
No, no, I'm definitely.
Somebody on large coffee.
Block twist.
Oh, shit.
Yo, Mark, what's?
Dave.
Ice, nobody supports me and cares about me like you do.
You a is.
You know.
You are right.
Why don't I sit on that couch?
I wish you would.
Sips sandwich between two haters.
Listen, is there anything else that we need to get off of our heart, soul, spirits?
Anything else we need to get off of our...
Just a happy birthday.
That's it.
Just want to affirm you, my brother.
We love you.
Thank you.
So much.
50 revolutions around the sun is amazing, man.
We appreciate you.
We love you.
We wish nothing but another 50 years of joy and love and prosperity and health, man.
We love you, man.
Thank you.
So much.
Embo the eyes.
You are right.
Like when I think about you, my eyes border sometime.
You're a fool.
Like you are beautiful.
Way cut to the skinny ass.
You ain't got to lose weight to be cute.
Some people got to lose weight.
You know what I mean?
Put the fucking ball!
Put the ball!
Oh my God.
Stop, damn.
I'm leaving.
I'm leaving.
I ain't saying nothing else about.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm going on.
I'm fucking hurt.
Oh, man.
Oh, shit.
Yo, y'all hold it down out there, man.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there.
Until the next time, we bid you a do farewell.
Adios.
Arriva, dirchy, asta, a vista, au revoir.
So long goodbye or a simple head now will suffice.
Remember life is a serious?
No, hold, let me do it right for my man.
Let's do it right for my man.
I thought you'd do the 50 in the club.
You know what I mean?
It's a birthday song.
50.
Oh.
It's so stupid.
It's seen a lot of talk about
great double albums.
Oh shit.
Don't do that.
You know this.
Nowhere near that list.
It's a good album.
Remember life is a series of
moments and moments past, so let's
make this one last as if it's
all we.
Yo, Drake is crazy.
This is definitely a polarizing song.
I know people that love this song, but the people would taste hate this song.
What about saying?
When my birthday come, I want to walk in the gifts and stuff, guys.
Oh, man.
I never even heard that record to hear the drums coming.
I didn't know that song.
I ain't know they had drums on that motherfucker.
I've never heard that song.
It's shiver.
It's shiver.
It's actually really relevant.
Listen, lastly, the baddies are insecure.
The stagnant women want to travel.
Did you have to read the script?
No.
Oh.
No, no, no.
I'm looking at those.
He's getting hungry.
I want you to teach them things.
Grab you with Tylenol.
You will need it.
Anybody got any interest in plans for the weekend?
Anything late, lay, lay, lay.
Well, we got Sunday plans now, me and Mark.
Yeah, I think I might fuck with that on Sunday.
Let's do that.
Saturday I'm going to hit that Brooklyn Paramount show.
Who's this?
That's it.
What you got going on this weekend?
Nothing.
Let's my girl do something.
Sleep it all day.
That's it.
That's right.
Sleep that shit off, pop pop, pop.
It's go time tonight.
Park's about you.
No big plans.
No big place.
Call me pop pop, yo.
Call your girl, let your girl know.
You'll be home about five.
The muffin, man.
The muffin' me.
The funny
shit.
Oh, too, is that, Jimmy.
Wait, no.
You're a fucking fool.
The funny shit is the clip.
And the clip.
The funny shit is...
The more...
Yo, no, the funny shit is the clip, and the clip, it says,
when I'm making both of the tens laugh, and now bro randomly decides to show he has a talent.
Who are you?
Look at the face.
It's amazing.
It's an active on them.
You've never heard of Joe, bud?
