The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 896 | "Young Men That Carry Arms"
Episode Date: January 21, 2026The JBP kicks off its latest episode covering an internet debate of Common vs. Jadakiss (24:10) before turning to new music from T.I. (45:33). The room then has a conversation about creating and evalu...ating friendships (53:28), Claressa Shields calls in to a show to defend herself (1:23:30), and the crew shares their thoughts about two wedding stories (1:43:08). Also, Nike's new MLK sneaker (2:07:07), Keith Lee visits the viral 'tenderism' BBQ restaurant (2:15:50), Joe has a question for his castmates about the YMCA (2:28:56), Marc Lamont Hill recaps the back and forth between Nicki Minaj & Don Lemon, and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden
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Yo, salute, salute, salute, salute.
You know what it is.
We're in the building.
We're talking shit.
Look at Mark.
Mark, it was Martin Luther King Day a few days ago.
Oh, that's, okay.
This makes sense.
And that's when Mark goes and does 20 speaking engagements.
He woke up, started posting all his old pastor clips.
That's true.
I was up at 5 in the morning on his Insta story and seen he was up posting.
I'm like, yo, Mark, my brother.
Look at you, man.
Now you're sitting there miniature.
Yes.
You're like, when you don't sleep, you look more miniature than you know it.
Like you shrink in the chair.
You got your coffee like that's going to help.
You didn't, the hoodie shrunk somehow.
The jeans definitely shrunk.
Everything is tinier.
Pause.
Yo, not everything, man.
You know, the bills are getting paid.
No shape up.
Look at your mustache.
No, you got a haircut.
I got a haircut.
I got a haircut.
Well, did they skip your face?
I'm talking about your face.
Look at your beard.
Did they not do?
Look at you.
Wow.
Thank you for coming in to work, Mark.
That's what I expected.
God, damn.
I was in Madison, Wisconsin, negative seven this morning.
Oh, God.
I got up at 5 a.m.
flew here.
He sounded like shit.
And made it on time.
I had no voice.
I would have called out, but I ain't know who else.
You know what I want to make sure everybody,
you know, there's enough people here, you know what I mean?
Because it's sick season, so I thought, you know.
We show up.
Unless people get sick, you know what I mean?
Well, yeah, if you hop from airport to dirty-ass air,
airport speaking at gate
B-52. We can't all afford
to five private, Joseph. No,
I'm not flying. I ain't been nowhere.
I'm not flying. I don't have a trip booked.
It is staying season.
World short.
Word. Oh, I would love it. The phone this morning
says 17, but it feels like three.
Yeah, so tired of that. It feels like shit. Tell me what
I'm not going nowhere, nigga. I woke
up made some tuna fish the other night.
Like when you plan to be in,
that's some black people bunker shit.
Like, you make this tuna.
You make this tuna. No.
And for the next few days,
Look, you look at the weather and you see, all right, it's going to snow or it's going to be cold and shit.
You stock up.
You ain't going to win.
You don't go out of the freezer.
You know, I made some tuna.
That's some old nigger shit.
I ain't go through.
Salteen crackers.
Tuna held niggas down.
And my girl was like, yo, you on your, you on your, let's do the letters raps on them.
I said, ooh.
See, she'll be upgrading you.
The letters cups with the tuna smoked.
I'm not a big fan of the lettuce wrap.
It's good.
I love a good letters.
She sliced some tomatoes, put them to do.
It was good.
It was good.
Joe, I knew you was on Saturday.
That's why I ain't call you.
We're supposed to, we talked about going to trek out to see Mona in New Brunswick.
My girls are, ain't you going out with Joe?
I was like, is he on call?
I'm not calling him.
Because it was cold and it was snowing.
Yeah, but the funny thing about that, like we should communicate
because I think you got it in reverse.
Like, Mona's thing was Sunday.
Oh, was it Sunday?
I'm sorry.
I said Saturday.
I meant Sunday.
I'm sorry.
There's a long weekend.
So, yeah.
When Mona was here, it was.
you prompted, you was like,
yo, Mona, I'm going to see you Sunday.
Yeah.
And then I said, if you go, I'll go.
So it's not if I call you, that's backwards.
Oh, no, it's totally.
No, he was trying out to go.
He was just like, as long as Joe, I can call, I call it.
I know what's going to happen.
Joe's the move.
Joe's the team player.
Joe's like, oh, yeah, let's roll.
And then I'd be like, fuck, now I got to do.
And I want to see Mona.
I just, it was snowing outside and cold as fuck.
And I couldn't get up in the coach.
The weather was, it was bad.
Yeah, it was bad.
So I ended up in the Toro Locco.
When it's cold like that, you look for any reason to not go.
Wait, what are you?
Facts.
I said, that's how I ended up in the Toro Loco.
The who now what is that?
It's a local bar.
It's a little local bar around our...
You back at the bar?
You're back at the bar?
You're just outside.
What's that what you?
Oh, that was a real spirit in the beginning.
That shit put them out to you.
The spirit lingers.
No.
Ghosts in Christmas.
Fuck!
I have been in a bar five days in the wrong.
It's just coincident.
Are you okay?
I'm not even drink.
I order one drink.
And I nurse it the whole time.
That ass.
Because it's whiskey and I don't really love whiskey like that.
So I can just sit with it the whole time.
That McCallon 6.
6.
Had that Macallin 3.
The Doritos Loco does not have McAllen.
They did not.
They did not.
But the other spot I did have some fly shit.
I was in two bars that night.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
That nix said the Doritos.
So you bar hopping.
I was meeting two sets of friends that were
just, I was meeting two sets of friends that were.
At two different bars
What's how you got back in the house, yeah?
It's too cold for this behavior.
I go out like five times a year.
And you don't have the coats to do this.
I didn't even have a coat on this again.
Time out.
So you can't go see Mona,
but you can go bar hop.
The Toro Loco's going to block away.
She was in New Brunswick, nigga.
Once you were in the car, you were in the car.
She is.
That's crazy.
Why your answer?
Flip.
I didn't hear the question.
I didn't hear what I said.
I really didn't, brother.
What's something did you get back in the house?
Oh, yeah.
I didn't hear you.
I'm sorry.
You all outside.
Everything good,
guys?
Everything is great.
We all go through the same type of shit
at the same time.
Everything I ain't.
No, we don't.
We do.
It gets tricky when you start doing that content shit.
You bar-hopped.
You ain't want to leave the house before, nigga.
I hate leaving the house.
I have friends in town.
We went to work out.
We just didn't end up still training.
You can just invite them over.
Because my wife had her girlfriend's over.
And you have the whole gym in the baseball.
There you go.
That's even better.
Your friends.
Get with my friends.
We can be friends.
Did he reference aside?
I decided that...
How'd that work out for him?
That was a good one.
That was a good one, man.
That was good.
I needed some time and space, you know what I'm saying?
It's not you need time and space for your significant other.
Just a clear your mind, right?
I don't know what that is.
Yeah, exactly.
You don't know what time of space is?
We know how you use it.
I love our spaces.
I'm going down to the basement.
No one comes down here.
I got, without some Friday night, though, for a minute.
He did what?
Yeah.
Oh, you bitch-ass name.
You got outside of house, too?
I didn't.
Huh?
No.
When lights getting a nigga pop up wearing all this race.
Look.
Ice face.
I was there.
I went.
The fella said, yo, let's go across the street and get a drink.
I said, I don't drink.
They said, well, nigga, come get a ginger beer.
Oh, for your birthday.
Yeah.
So, it's a lot of ginger beer.
He went across street.
How you feel?
There's a nish out of hour after we did.
I'm like, niggas across the street.
It was a hour.
It was a solid four hour.
It was at least 45 minutes.
Right.
I was like, how did he get lost from beer to air?
He had a phone call.
Yo, the pie just be lying.
You know, the pie, the guys have rubbed off.
How do you steal?
Oh, nigga.
I'm good, nigga, what you mean?
Ooh, 50.
Yeah, you was looking spry, though.
He was in there.
I was looking spry.
You know, I see.
I see.
He had this, he had his all black on.
Yeah, he was fresh.
Yeah, but it's good to hang out with you, man.
Got the bell while we got to toast him for his birthday.
Yeah.
He held up the orange pills while we held up the drinks.
It was too cold for me.
Sorry, go.
No, we was in all of 10 minutes.
Oh, no, we wasn't.
I'm glad.
This point.
We were there for a long time.
We had two trays of...
Right.
I had three trays of nachos before this motherfucker guy here.
Yeah, we love you, gay.
Oh, man.
Thank you.
Love us?
Sure.
Slap the chin out of you.
You're 50.
That means your ass whoops then.
You can't...
I'm glad to see everybody's in a great move.
Yeah, man.
What's up with you, man?
I'm good, man.
I was a weekend.
It was reflating...
You know how it was.
Oh.
It's good, y'all.
Hey.
Hey
My nigga right here
I love you bro
And I love you too
I love you man
When you calm and mellow
Means you know you things we're just going smooth
Yeah you went outside
You know he can't go outside
Seriously you ain't going to talk
He can't go outside, dick
They're going to wait
Yeah I stay right in the house
Friday for a high second
That's what I said
Actually we went out on a movie
I thought you meant like for the weekend
We went to saw Marty Supreme
It was actually really good
Really
Definitely recommend it
I'll check it out there
Yeah no I was in the crew
Joe I saw you
So you're posting your 2016 reflections
Bitch ass nigga
He fried me up last week on it
And they posted the exact same pictures
2016
Hashtang we working
Now you know what happened
When I fried you up about that 2016
Post
I had so much fun doing that
I don't know why people think
Because I'm frying them up about something
That I won't turn around and do it
Oh, no, we expect that.
I do that.
Often.
But then when I typed 2016 in my phone and looked at the pictures.
Shit was awesome, right?
I'm like, damn, I'm so old.
I thought my 2013 was like 2016.
2016 was a, I started to come back to me.
Yeah, yeah.
It started to come back.
I'm telling you.
So I'm like, you know what, man?
And then my phone started showing me how some of my 2016 went.
and because I have a healthy respect
for my relationship and a lot of y'all's
I just kept it cute
gave him a couple of tour photos
me and my cousin
my son
it was a lot of that
and y'all and
y'all fuck with that on Instagram
but be clear
there was another side to 2016
and I took all the
pictures of it.
They all still in there.
She deleted everything else, but
somehow that's
guilty. Yo, real
rap. When I looked through the 2016 photos, the ones I
didn't put in. Boy!
I had some shit going
on in 2016.
To any man over 40, just go on your phone
to your little Apple, if you got Apple, and just type
2016 in your photos. Oh, my Lord.
And just spend like 15 minutes missing
your pass. I don't miss it.
I'm very happy with where I am.
I don't miss it.
either. Shout out to the Toro Loco.
Everything's great.
Everything's fine at home.
Oh, man.
Flip, how you feel? You good?
I feel great.
It's popping Flip.
I'm all right, man.
Miss you, man.
Miss y'all, too.
What I did Friday for my man, ish?
Just what he wanted.
Talked.
Exactly what he wanted.
Talked.
Bid shit-ass nigga, yeah.
This is his favorite pastor?
What do I got to do with that?
Come on, bro.
You should have nothing to do with that, bro.
I don't have nothing to do with that, bro.
I'm a celebrate you, bro.
I'm a celebrate you, bro.
You saw Danny this weekend?
I did not.
All right, good.
What that got to do with you?
There's nothing at all, man.
I'm just trying to have a good time.
I'm just trying to have a smooth.
How many calls you got?
A lot.
How many what?
You got a lot of calls and stuff like that.
Sure.
I got yours.
I appreciate you.
You guys, you guys.
No, we do.
Chill out, Nick.
Okay, good.
We're just saying, we can chill out.
I'm saying, we're 30 minutes in.
We're ready.
We ready.
I'm sorry.
We ready.
Let's get it.
Oh, my God.
No, I don't got nothing.
Are we ready?
Let's get it.
Let's get to it, baby.
I don't want smoke with you, man.
Please.
I hear you, I know you dropping.
I see you dropping your tracks.
Smok is a rain in the air, game.
That was dope.
That was dope.
Soon as dudes become a rap,
they start looking for rat beef immediately.
I'm not your rat beef, dog.
Just what you want.
Don't don't leave me trying.
You get, here we go.
You go back.
You know, that just put on the other side.
They lost off.
For me so much
Mike check, Mike check
You know
I did the crime
To be
With me silence
To pay to me
Everybody on the floor
That the best in you
Turn in the Faye
While I'm sexing you
I did the crimes on around with you
Taking the charge of confessing
Wait a minute
Wait a minute
Wait a minute
Wait a minute
To get you inspired
out there.
Inge!
Inga!
Look at you, look at you, look at you, look at you, look at you.
Chill, you all in the DJ Serrano.
Right now, chill, man.
Chill, you're in the DJ Serrano right now.
Yo, this is something I promise, man.
Somewhere, it's gonna happen, man.
Stop bullshit.
Quick little hour, 45 minutes, something like,
Loot Joe button said, I got it cover for y'all, I promise.
I know the families out there listening.
right quick if you know about if your guitar flowing shit you know how to do
nothing when this song was out man boy if I was a drunk deal or something if I was
a beige I had a couple dollars when this song was out
it's been a rap man I ain't gonna lie I had a great show lined up for y'all
today so happy y'all could be here with us no matter where you at no matter
what you're doing man hey shout to the dancing niggas out there too man y'all
Boy, TikTok did it for y'all.
You niggas is back like when the kid in play was out.
Anybody in college and all that?
Shout to y'all out there.
All right, where we're starting?
Where we starting there?
Where we starting there?
Who knows?
Who knows?
Who knows?
Let's get to it.
I got it.
You know what I want to talk about.
And I don't care if it's 10 v1.
Although I think there'll be another brave soul in here.
Okay.
We talked about it.
Just what I need.
Fucking fucking, fucking.
My B mic sounds like ice.
You're niggas sound insane.
Mark, you sound like shit.
Shout to all the parents out there.
You can tell.
Feeling your soul, right, baby?
That music, come on.
He started, he started reminiscing this.
Let's, look.
He felt tingles, look.
Who, my man, ish?
Yeah.
What is doing when this is on?
Sing a song like anybody else.
Nah, come on, is.
What you're doing when, like, come on, for real.
Think about Hallie Berry running across the street.
All right.
Enough of you.
When this song is on, are you stationary in the club or are you walking around?
Are you walking around or you, are you mobile?
I'm chilling.
In a section or at your man's section?
It depends.
Do you got your own hookah?
Always.
Always, yeah.
This is Park.
You're ice and Polish.
Ooh.
What episode is this?
896.
And flip, flip.
Big flip is in the building.
Welcome to episode 890.
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I'm your humble, gracious, grateful,
extremely happy to be here.
Host Joe Button here
with some very important people
on my life to my right.
Queens get the money.
Queens flip is in the building.
Next to him,
our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill
is in the building.
Next to him, big ish.
Mr. Thousand Doors and Up is here.
Next to him, the freesiest of them
all, A. A.Lo down.
Stop playing with him.
Big ice is in the building.
You, yo.
Next to him, Elmira's finest.
Marks is here.
Poet's here.
Corey is here.
Erickson is here.
Tannar Savani here by remote last, but certainly not least.
Each and every one of you guys is here.
What's popping, y'all?
What's popping, gang?
Wake it up, man.
Get the energy high in here.
Please, wake it up in here.
What's up, Newark?
I hate fucking Newark.
Can I tell you how I hate Newark?
Oh, shit.
That's a start.
This weekend, and I don't know if I handled this wrong.
Yo, dog, I'll be keeping them off you.
You got to go through doors.
That's the man, tell why you hate Newark.
I don't have to.
to go through North. Good. Keep that energy.
I do. He's hand over. All right. Well, go ahead.
You're thinking, man, so I'm taking my mother-in-law to church. Every Sunday I take my mother-in-law to church.
Every Sunday, I take her mother-in-law to church.
Damn, this nigga. What?
He worked more. The God-Dain, get a break, man.
He was going to take the grandmother, the mother-in-law to church.
He said, you wait for?
What, am I leave her?
You go in?
Nah.
Oh, you send a call?
Yeah, I don't go to church.
Yeah, so. It's a black church?
No.
Oh, okay.
It's a mix.
It's like black people and some Spanish speakers.
It's a Catholic church in Newark.
Okay, okay.
They're punctual.
Anyway, that ain't the point right.
Oh, they're super punctual.
You get there 11, you out of toast.
So I went to get a pizza because I was hungry and I wanted to get a little bit of food.
So I go to the Blaze pizza on Broadway Street.
And I know the people in there because I go there pretty regularly.
Yeah, I mean?
So I pull up.
I'm there about 10 minutes early for my food because I order the table.
through the app, and I'm waiting, and then suddenly I see two brothers come in who, frankly,
didn't look like they should be in Blaze Pizza.
What was that mean?
They didn't look like they were there to buy, and they didn't look like employees.
I know you're rolling your eyes, but we shouldn't make judgments about each other.
You sure?
But I waited.
Okay, Tim.
Now, you're a pro in a judgment game if you're doing that in a pizza place.
Words.
Well.
This guy that looks like he should afford a pizza.
Blaze pizza.
At that.
At that.
At that.
At 11.30 in the morning.
So I don't go in to get my pizza
And I have my son with me
He's in the child seat
So I wait
He could have took him
So I wait
I wait like a couple minutes
And then they make a right
And I'm like
They don't work here
And they didn't wait
Get in line
I said I think they're stealing my pizza
Now I could be wrong
But this is what came to my mind
About 30 seconds later
They go out the store
Holding a pizza
They look mysteriously like my
Large plain tomato pie
How could you tell you?
You need some sleep
Why?
Is this crazy?
Yes, so far.
It's 11.30 in the morning, these niggas did not have an app.
Nothing about their attire or the seven bags they had on them said that they know how to use an app or have the ability to pay through an app.
It's crazy talking about it.
So I think they have my pizza.
So I get out the car, not because they're going now.
Now I can go get my food.
They left.
They left.
I got to challenge them for my pizza.
I wasn't scared, but I'm, well, I don't.
I was scared of course.
Before I go out, get my son out the car, and before I can even get to the door,
the two girls who worked there at the door of the joint.
And before I, they were looking left and right said, did he just steal my pizza?
They said, yeah.
So then, and this girl had to be from North.
She said he went that way.
So?
Okay.
And you said, okay.
You go that way, back to the kitchen.
This is where the wrong instincts kick in.
This is where Joe might have been right.
One time, I don't know if you told me that I might overreact the things.
so my first instant kicked in
so I start going up the street
because he has my pizza
you can't fight for a pizza
I didn't want to fight for a pizza
I just he had my pizza
niggas would have turned you in a mozzarella
they've been tossing you off
so I get to the corner
and it's like five police officers there
and they saw what dude
they clearly saw duet at a pizza
because they said yo he went that way
and at that point it hit me
I'm not following no police directions
I go back to the store
and say well you know
since my pizza was still looking
I have another one
and she said well you couldn't
catch him and I said well
that's not my job I just ordered
a pizza I just want my pizza and then I got
my pizza but that whole ordeal
reminded me told me that I needed to get a little bit of
therapy yeah um
maybe some anger management they needed the pizza
more than you yeah yeah I didn't
care that's it was freezing too
like I don't know what I was but my first
instinct was to go after when I thought it was mine
and that's the shit that I got to work through
I agree with you but that only happens
nowhere else but a Newark pizzeria where they tell me to go
catch the ball that's all I'm saying
got you yep
You're welcome.
I feel like every week I learned like a few of y'all are ghettoard and I thought.
Like, just buy another pizza, man.
No, let them have it.
Evidently, they need the pizza.
They'll make you a new pizza.
Their pizza would have been.
I am not doing this with Mark.
Tell me about the internet argument.
Tell me about the internet argument that a few of you are attempting to bring to real life.
Let's do it.
It's a very good old MC, MC ranking.
Oh, okay, we're starting with this.
Let's do it.
Yeah, let's do it.
I mean, it ain't too much going on.
Come on, freeze.
So somebody tell me about this.
The trending has been Jada Kis versus Kama.
Where did it just come from?
I don't know.
That's what I was going on.
The Internet.
The Internet.
There was a reason why it came up on people's lists, but it took the life of his own.
And then it wasn't no longer about lists or the origin of it.
It just became about Jada Kis versus Kahn.
Who's higher on the all-time MC list?
And people had strong feelings on each side.
And I think it's the crazy argument because there's only one right.
answer. And that is? I think we all know. In the count of three, we can all just say it.
One, two, three, comments.
Jada kiss. I love how you didn't. Joseph. I was just listening to
your bullshit. Lay out the arguments here. Let me let me let me. Here's the argument.
These are two names that I would have never even thought to pair. To pair or so if I'm like,
because when we start ranking all time, everybody's in the mix, right? So the different genres,
different styles, all that. But if we rank it all time, common to me is higher than Jada.
It's not a tough argument.
Here's the argument for me.
Well, where do both of them sit on your all-time list?
Start, give me that.
Neither is in my top 10, but anywhere under that,
I wouldn't fight nobody for it.
On my list, they're probably around somewhere between 15 and 20.
So they're about five spots apart.
Yeah, at the most.
Yeah, at the most.
I think they're both of the 20s, regardless, for me.
Okay, yeah, that's probably more.
If I thought about it more now with more rappers,
but I'm just saying they're definitely top 25.
I think everybody would agree with that.
And they're toward the bottom half of my top 25.
But I think Common is a very strong case
with being above JD Kiss.
One, if you talk about classic albums,
which I do think should matter.
Yeah, discography album-wise.
It's not even close.
It's not close.
It's not even close.
Solos.
Solo.
Yeah, Common has three indisputable,
to me, classic albums, but at least two, right?
Resurrection literally changed the way hip-hop.
People thought about hip-hop.
It marked a major turn to hip-hop.
That's classic.
I'm what you on that.
You're all about to be me to death, huh?
B, absolutely.
To me, is one of the...
I just knew it was coming.
B is incredible.
B is incredible.
I'm agreeing with you guys on resurrection for sure, and B is great.
Those are both...
I know y'all hit mics, but those are the five mic albums for me.
And then for me, like water for chocolate.
Like water for chocolate.
Which is my...
Amazing.
Which is one of my favorite albums of all time.
And finding forever one week, it just wasn't beat.
Yeah.
That's four...
I don't know what's on that one.
When you hear it,
you would know.
Which one is finding forever?
There's the one right after B.
He's still,
mostly Kanye.
Knock it off.
Knock it off.
It wasn't B, but it was still a lead album.
I'm not doing this with you all going on.
Then you got the battle resume.
Right?
He was in,
because when you think about his battle versus Ice Cube,
his battle was important.
It was important to hip-hop.
I mean,
Minister Farrak kind of intervened.
I mean, it wasn't just a small battle.
It was a huge battle that affected black culture,
hip-hop culture.
Again, and you can make the KC won.
You might not say,
think that.
Some people were saying,
know, Vaseline.
Some of him say the bitching you,
whatever. It was a major battle. I'm not going to put the Drake battles a major battle,
although he held his own. He's battle tested. So he was tough. Yeah. And he's been in a,
he's at great features, great posse.
Slow down before you rush to the features. Okay. So on the battlefront,
he did that versus Ice Cube, one of the greatest battles of all time against Ice Cube, right?
Yes. One of the greatest rappers of all time. One man. I mean, you could say against,
yeah, sure. Just one person, right? Uh-huh.
Mark, you need some sleep, I'm telling you.
You're spilling coffee all over yourself.
You got the jitters.
Your shit was hot.
And the Drake, if you want to count the Drake battle, that would have to be a loss, right?
No.
Yeah, he lost that.
Canada dry, you think he lost that?
Yeah, he lost.
He lost it.
Okay.
So, all right.
But sweet was fire.
It wasn't like a blowout.
That's what I'm not saying it was.
But he lost that one, right?
All right.
So go ahead to the features.
You think about some of the greatest posse cuts of all time
Like respiration
Oh no stop
This is where he loses
Like
Stay in like
No no no no no
Please let the man talk
Let him go
Respiration is amazing
But please let him
Let him go
I think every verse of restoration was dope
But I'll take respiration off
My point is
He's been in multiple moments of hip-hop
He's lasted through the 90s
Oh he left
He left
He laughed
He laughed
He laughed
He said R-E-S
He said R-E-S and it's fucked up to rest of that word.
The only person on my side is saying, don't go restoration.
I love that record, but features, he's not winning against Jada Kiss.
No, I'm not saying he's winning against Jada Kiss on features.
I'm saying, I'm talking about just comments, resume,
take Jada Kiss off the table for him second.
I'm saying he's battle-tested, elite albums, been on classic songs, great features.
Has one of maybe the greatest hip-hop love song of All Time, Delight.
So you're talking about classic tracks, too.
I mean, also, I used to love her.
They'd make movies after that shit.
Using hip-hop as a metaphor for women comes from common.
So it's long-lasting impact on hip-hop is also cemented.
And he's part of the Soul Quarians, which is one of the greatest hip-hop collectors of all time.
Okay, I mean, you're...
I'm just saying, I think Comin is a hip-hop legend.
And I think it's a soul-quarian ass off of him.
And he's in cocaine, 80s.
He is in cocaine, 80s.
Soul queries.
I love So Quiris.
I'm not putting them as one of the greatest hip-hop
collectives ever.
What did you say,
I love soul queries,
but I'm not putting them
as one of the greatest hip-hop.
I am.
And I might just shout out to Questile
as his birthday today,
but I'm,
happy birthday,
Questlove,
I love you, man.
And rest of peace dealer.
But I'm not doing it.
And DiAngelo.
Fuck.
Yeah.
Damn.
These are all the people
y'all say
are part of the greatest
hip music collective
right,
De Angelo.
There's just not enough.
But do work.
There's not enough work.
There's not enough work.
There's only like three or four maybe
Topps albums that you can attribute to.
I don't want to go down this rabbit hole,
but we always say they ain't got enough work
when we don't want to choose them
because when we get to Biggie,
all of a sudden he's in goat conversations.
I stay in the same.
I stay the same thing.
He's in that same conversation.
Same thing with Jimmy Hendries.
I mean, there's people who are goaded
without a whole lot of material,
but that's my comment.
Yeah, but Biggie's short list of material
is way bigger than Soul Quarians,
respectfully because I love Soul Quirons.
Unless you talk about Erica Badu's,
Mama's gun.
Unless you talk about Combin'I's like Juan for Chalach.
Let's talk about DeAngelo.
No, let's just, I mean.
You got to throw in a circus electric or whatever that shit was too, so.
Which, I think.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
I'm on your side.
Don't know.
I will die alone.
Electric circus was ahead of his time.
Okay, enough of you now.
Once we get to Electric Circus.
I'm not right.
I'm not reping Electric Circus, but it wasn't a terrible album.
That's all I'm saying.
Wasn't good.
Listen to it now.
I bet you.
I have recently, actually.
That and the, uh, Kahn had a pretty interesting discography and that he has multiple albums produced by
by No ID.
He has an album produced by Pete Rock.
He has an album produced by Kanye.
as an album produced by the Neptune's.
The Neptune's one was horrible.
Horrible.
Beyond horrible.
I don't know what the fuck they was thinking on that shit.
I have to find it forever.
I'm like, that's the end of his run for me.
Yeah.
That's why it's cheating for me to be any...
Because my views are not...
My views are unique to me and me.
What y'all talking about is one of the reasons that I probably am not going to rank
Common above Jadicus is...
Common wins the relationships battle by far.
And that matters.
I don't know.
Huh?
Common was the corporate relationships, but I think Jadicus, everyone loves Jadicus.
Not what I'm saying.
No, I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, it's different.
Not what I'm saying.
Media darling shit.
Yes.
I'm saying, I'm thinking ignorant.
I'm saying Jadicus came in on a shit deal.
He did.
On a shit deal, had to fight to get off that deal, then paid to get to be a part of his next run, which was the rough riders run.
That's when we've got the real, real music.
and then from there he's just been him.
Coast.
Like relying on his skill set
and what other emcees think of him.
There's been no common, a large part of,
and he wins the longevity battle,
but a large part of that
is his relationships and his label situations.
I know that the masses will never count that stuff.
I think it's a fair point.
The masses will never, but yeah, come on.
But to me, that's just why common is ranked higher.
I was on Def Jam when Common,
common B came out.
And
we know what time it was with getting
one Kanye beat at that time.
Yeah. So for him to pop up
with an album. Yeah.
And it'd be fire. And Kanye's
piping fucking hide. He was out of here.
Conner was going, man. And again,
one of the greatest MCs. So please don't get,
but I'm just not sure if I personally, but I'm from New York, too.
Like, I'm sure a lot. I think it's a lot of,
Jada kiss features,
Jada kids appears on more songs that are important to my hip hop lineage than common.
Yeah, the banger list, common loses.
Yes.
Like the bangers that Jada kiss is not even close.
But I think if I had to, if you left me with five common songs and five Jada kids songs, right?
Or three or two or one or whatever, for me the common ones are a little more important.
Like to me, there are very few songs in hip-hop that are more important than the light.
There are very few songs important.
I used to love her.
I mean, I'm just going out.
That would be number one.
They're not in that order.
I used to love her to me is top, top, top, top, top, top, top.
The light for me is the hip-hop's greatest love song along with maybe like Renee and a couple of other.
But very, very small.
All of that shit is a hundred slots behind Benjamin's.
I'm not.
Yeah, I don't know.
The light is a hundred slots behind Benjamin.
Yeah, but you can't put the Benjamins in the same conversation.
That's just different genres to me.
That's a posse cut with big and puff.
I think they're both.
I think they're both different genres.
And.
I think that's fair.
And I think that's why...
That's why I would have never thought to even...
To do this.
It's interesting head-to-head.
And I think they're very close, by the way.
I think they're within two or three.
I think Red Man's probably in that same kind of stratosphere.
Yes, but I got them both above Red Man.
But not by much.
Okay.
Again, I don't think you're wrong with you of Red Man higher.
I think they're all in the same conversation.
There's not a wrong answer.
But I haven't heard...
I can't say...
I don't know, man.
I'm from New Jersey.
I can't sit here.
I can't see here.
I can see here.
There's no way I can sit here quiet.
and let y'all say y'all don't say y'all
even if y'all are right even if y'all are right
because I'm not going to argue it
but I'm from New Jersey I can't let y'all do that
right man no way
no you don't think comments better than red man
all right so there's also a different conversation
and take your light and shut up
and even if you say common is better
I'm just not going to do that while sitting in New Jersey
hold on hold on hold on I didn't say
I didn't say better
y'all y'all y'all have changed the conversation
I didn't say better
when we talk about great
On MC list, we're not talking about skill.
We're not talking about who's a better rapper.
We're talking about, to me, greater involves the whole career.
The whole collective.
Let me ask you this.
I think Red Band Combs started to interrupt.
I think that's a pretty fun argument because they both went into film and, you know.
They did.
The later part of their careers.
And they're both in the same peer group.
That's in the same era.
Yes, the same era of hip-hop.
They both didn't go into film.
And I was about to ask that question.
If you pull comments, filmography, IMDB, whatever you want to call it,
away from this, Commons public persona
definitely diminishes by some.
For sure.
Yeah.
Okay, so it's kind of unfair at that point.
But that's what I'm going just by the music.
A lot of people can't separate.
You can't separate what Common has done
in the entertainment sphere
versus what he's done in the music.
And I think that's true for L.
Like that nigga has
a list shit on his resume.
I'm with you.
And that's the same argument for L,
we can say it about L, Latifah,
for all the people who are greats anyway.
We can't separate them,
but I still want to be able to have them
high on the great list.
But what is the Jada kids?
Do you have calm and high than most deaf?
Yes.
Yes.
But most deaf is a better, much, to me, a better rapper, a better MC.
But just when we talk about a body of work and impact and all the other things we just talked
about, as much as I love most deaf when he's rapping, it's just not enough of it.
There's not enough material.
Yeah.
If a track comes on, if a track, if a track comes on and Common and Kiss are on the track, who does what?
Depends on what track it is.
No, it does.
It does a little bit.
No, absolutely does.
Common ain't going to just get smoked, though.
I'm not saying, don't get smoked.
I mean, you think he did a restoration, but like, no, he didn't get a smoking restoration.
Oh, that was the word I was saying.
Oh, okay.
I was just so don't put posse cuts in this conversation because Benjamins exists and major look remix exists.
There's too much.
And reservoir dogs.
A reservoir dog.
No, no, posse cuts.
Hold up, kiss.
Hold up you guys because I'm taking this call.
Hello?
What up, bro?
All right.
There we go.
I'm live on air.
So don't say anything that'll get either one of us in trouble.
Sean Stockman, how you doing, man?
I'm good, man.
Happy New Year to all y'all, man.
Happy New Year.
Happy New Year.
We were in the middle of a spirited hip hop discussion,
but I did want to answer your call
because I need a lot of tickets to that.
That boys to make new addition.
I'm not going to lie to you.
My mom won eight.
I need about nine.
So this is more tickets than I've ever asked for in my life.
And I'm going to buy some,
but I'm still going to come to you for something too.
Okay.
That's a lot to unpack.
I'm assuming I heard that you guys had a conversation and I want to say that Parks mentioned about the post that I put up on my page.
Indeed.
Note that these tickets that should ask them for, you know, I have to pay for it.
Oh no, I'll pay for him.
We're comfortable with that.
I'll pay for him.
I'll pay for mine.
Okay.
So realistically, how many tickets do you really do?
I don't know. I'm talking shit, Sean. I'll figure it out in real life and text you in real life about it.
Okay.
But are you all right?
I'm good, man. I didn't know you called. I was probably right in the middle of rehearsal when you called me.
Oh, okay, cool, cool. Y'all are kicking ass. You're kicking ass on that podcast.
The podcast is great. I love it. I appreciate it. And Mark, man, thank you for the shout.
Thank all y'all, man, for real, though. I appreciate you guys even mentioning it, man.
on y'all big big big big platform i it helps a lot so i i thank y'all so much for that man
anytime and um and yo joe i if i'm if i'm if i'm in town i would love to stop by if you guys
are filming around the time oh yeah yeah yeah well i would absolutely love that i would
absolutely love that i would love to pull up say say hello to the folks so please please please
Please do.
My door is always open.
Please.
I appreciate you.
But yeah, but hit me later, man.
And we'll talk about, you know,
tickets and everything.
And anybody else that's, you know,
on the team that wants to, you know,
pull up.
Yeah, it's probably just going to be me.
No.
It's probably just going to be me.
I'll text you, Sean.
Thank you.
Yeah.
That's got.
That's terrible.
All right.
Okay.
Your man, turn.
All right, y'all.
Thank you.
Take it.
Yeah, you're terrible.
Yeah, bro.
You don't fuck with that shit.
Right.
Shut up.
I'm definitely going to that one.
I am there.
Got my tickets two months ago.
You're lying.
You vicious, bro.
Give me the first two sentences on Bender Nene.
That's what I mean about you.
See, that's what I mean.
Look, stuck them.
Stumped them.
You still talking.
I got to just.
Just give me the first two of on Bending knee.
Give me the chorus of four seasons.
You bitch-ass nigger.
But you didn't answer mine.
I'm trying to go to reverse bar.
If I hear it, I'm going to say it.
After the reverse card.
The forcing.
That's what niggins do, too.
That's it.
You bitching.
Oh, man.
All right, back to.
I need to hear the Jada kiss argument because all I'm getting is going to be torn down here.
I'm going to just throw a few jabs out.
Oh, wait.
I thought I started that already.
No, you think the common ice cube battle was bigger for hip hop and then.
Jada and beans?
Kiss and beans?
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, no.
Yeah, I think so.
I think it's apples and oranges.
It is.
It's apples and oranges.
It's two of the best battles ever.
That was the best battle ever.
What?
To me.
Well, one of the best battles ever.
Which one?
Kiss and Bees.
The Kiss and the kids win that?
And this is the problem.
That's a tie.
That's why they don't.
This is why they're not paired well.
Sorry.
I'm not asking nobody in New York these questions.
Because the common ice cube battle was bigger in commercialized shit.
Yeah, true.
That's what I'm saying.
But the kiss in Jadaikis battle was some underground pretty.
Energy, man.
Let's get these lyrics out.
I think that's fair.
Shit.
You get them.
Again, if you say I wouldn't die on the,
and I would say comments battle was bigger.
But I also think,
I don't think Jada kids won that battle.
It don't matter.
It was a tie.
What you said?
So you didn't lose.
Yeah, he didn't lose.
He didn't lose.
I disagree with that.
Because you're from Philly.
I'm from Philly, so I'll take that by as a bias.
Just like y'all from New Yorkers.
But that's part of why that battle was so great.
Because who knows who won't true.
No, I didn't give a fuck.
It's like, it ain't just us.
It's a lot of motherfuckers outside of both of these cities
that'll say, damn, I really can't call that one.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, I don't know, one, some years I say kiss, some years I say beans.
I change my mind all the time.
That's amazing battle.
Every day I say beans.
Of course you would.
But still, all they're still doing is chipping away at the comment.
And Q's to me was so big because Carmen was already dissing them niggas on.
I used to love her.
Right.
So, right.
Yeah, well, sort of.
I think Q got his feelings overreacted.
Yeah.
Who won that battle?
You think?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think he was dissing to West Coast.
Yeah, he was.
I don't think that was his intention.
Yo, this is one of my favorite hip-hop songs of all time.
If I heard that, what he was saying, that was a West Coast disc.
It was.
A thousand percent.
I get what you say.
I know why people say that.
Now she pop in tops and hitting switches.
Now she's a gangst and hanging on gang.
I think he was just, I don't think that was about.
I don't think that's a diss at all.
I don't think so either.
I think he's more just talking about the twists and turns of hip-hop.
He might not like all of them, but I don't think he was saying, like, fuck the West Side connection,
which is basically how they took it.
I don't think you were saying fuck ice cube.
No, he said hip hop used to be this pure, beautiful art form.
To you niggas got my bitch and it went over there and now that shit is cheap selling pussy.
It's whack.
But he said that about everybody.
He said y'all slamming to take him into the sewer.
That wasn't about the West Coast.
That was about, I mean, I'm just saying there's a-
That's a metaphor.
One was a whole verse.
It was a whole story in the song.
I'm with you.
I saw it as a conscious hip-hop head.
and it's not pure no more, and everywhere but this pure thing is not as good.
Why is it not pure?
Well, not pure, though.
Because of commercialization, because all the things he's talking about,
I'm just saying I don't think he was trying to diss West Coast rapper.
I'm saying it was pure, and now you're over here and you're not pure.
I don't think he thinks it's pure.
I don't think he thought the East Coast kept it pure.
That's what I think he's, I think it's an elitist hip-hop position more than it is an anti-Westcoast-coast-coast-coast-coast-coast-coast-old position.
Well, after that's don't think it's such a big coincidence that they started beefing.
Oh, no.
They took it person.
They took a person.
They took a person.
I would have took that person.
I get that.
I ain't mad at that.
But that made a great...
To me, that was...
To me, that is one of hip-hop's greatest battles.
Maybe the best.
You know, it's certainly top three for me.
Yeah, that was...
The bitching you was a shock.
It was like, oh, shit, coming.
And that's part of it, too.
People didn't know common could do that.
Yeah.
Because they forgot about, can I borrow a dollar?
They forgot about the original common.
We didn't listen to that one.
The album wasn't great.
But the persona was great.
Boom and you boom.
And you remember, you was in the Jeep then.
Sprangling.
But tell me, just before we wrap this,
because somebody tell me,
watch Jada Kik, make the case for Jada Kis, not just the case
against Kahn. The locks. Very simple.
The locks, the guest features, the
his discography ain't bad. It ain't chump.
He just don't really have the classic album.
That's all he misses. That's all he misses.
Yeah, Kama has him wiped down on the albums.
That's it.
And you think everything else, Jada Kis got him wiped down?
Personally, yes.
Or wipe down. I'm not going to say wipe down.
He's higher. He's higher.
I have Jada Kis ranked higher on my all-time list.
Okay, fair enough.
If we're going to...
You can just go to Jada Kis, you know, wherever, wherever you listen
to your music and just hit shuffle.
Yeah.
And it'll answer the question for you.
Yeah. And I think that back in the
height of verses, I was
saying that I don't know if there's too many
people that can beat Jada Kiss and a Versus.
That also is true. He literally has songs
for any situation. Anything.
Come on, I want to get to this other
argument we was about to have. I was going to stay in the
20s rappers because we got some new Ti. For me,
he's about 20s. We got
a new record. Speaking of the verses, that's the other
one that can't be fucked with. Yeah.
So hard, yeah.
Riding to the check of flag running through the real light twill.
Can me gun that won't pull over till I'm dead right.
Rhyin' till the sun ride, count up by no bed time.
Ain't gonna count no bitch and j Ryan with me let their head fight.
Better know.
From the west side of the level of the big shower all my other mind, nigger better know.
Big shit popping ain't no little shit.
Dropping bags is a lot to you to me a little bit.
Let them nines shit before the cowl and allow.
Uh-huh.
Real dope boys in the trap.
Uh-huh.
Big guy, all in like a big shot.
Niggas on my dick.
This is amazing.
This is amazing.
Got to let them know.
I don't turn around so long lip box.
Uh-huh.
Solitaire's all I do with big rocks.
I came from Dilley Rock.
All the way to hit a chut.
On the throne, bitch ain't what I'm on.
She can kick wrong.
Love a little.
Get it bread.
I get what I'm standing on.
Bidna, big chick.
We can dig.
That's weird.
By you.
Better give me respect and some more.
That's a little.
I would put the show for a grader song
I was seven grand I don't care
I don't care
You're not?
You're not here's yet?
No I never heard this
It just came out
Yeah just came out
Fire
When?
Like just like yesterday
Yeah
Yeah yeah
Some sure like that
A snippet came out
And the next thing in the song came out
Yeah the video of him
Cut his dreads off
Cut his brains off
And I'm gonna
I put my
I put my thumb on the screen
And scroll if I see something
That's saying Tia's cutting his head
Now when it comes with this
Just turn the sound up
Yeah word
She was fired
This is your fire from where your girl is running?
This might work.
No, I just mean having the sound up.
I was too quick.
This is made.
Yo, this shit fire, man.
This is amazing.
I can't wait.
That's nuts.
This is nuts.
Any announced his new album?
Yep.
So I can't wait for it.
I thought he retired.
Fuck all that.
What will park say?
Don't nobody ever retired.
Only you.
And now he's saying this is my final album.
Yeah.
Let him know.
Let him know.
See, I don't believe it.
I don't care.
Who did this, who did that beat?
For real.
For real.
And I hope he does a lot more on this one.
I hope you do the whole damn out.
Word.
Whoa.
I don't hope you do the whole album.
I mean, I love Toomp and the million people that he's worked with.
T.
I always has a top flight production.
He does.
I just love this song so much.
Play that me a man.
From the top?
From the top?
No, that shit is.
I wanted to hear from the top, but you saying that maybe.
He was kind of flowing on the second verse.
He was kind of floating on the second verse.
I did.
hit the drum drop again.
Pushing weed,
better give me respect.
Here we go.
And Lella,
no, for I will put the show
for a grand or soap.
I was selling grand right on cabot to
and that's going to.
That flow is fucking amazing.
That's a pocket that he gets it.
That's amazing, boy.
That's Vince you see it.
That's Vince you see it.
Yo, Dahl.
What y'all saying is true,
but whatever he did to these drums.
Yeah, he's stupid.
These drums are doing a whole different type of booge.
No, niggas ain't got these drums and they fucking, it's got Triton.
It ain't in 2000.
No one.
It's a triton logic as something.
Hey, them ain't the Triton drums.
They might be.
But they're in logic, something.
This shit is bad.
Go, go, go.
They're hitting holes in the centerphone, better know.
They call it ball and weed.
They say you live in that by your decision.
Well, I'm a push a till limit.
Never mind the consequences.
In a pure, nigger, I'm a hell to be the bell.
Let him know.
On another level, my SS are put together hit the Pell to do 200 everywhere I go.
Tell them and I stay flat.
Just show the day, man.
On the phone, bitch ain't what I'm on.
She can kick rock, let her know.
Boy, P on the track.
I've been throwing nauseous.
I ain't got no country problem like I still got a pocket for the crack.
All they do is fight for number two because I'm the one.
I'm still make it play with the one.
All we know it's success hit her with some rich sex.
Good looking your bitch back.
She felled up a man to the minute.
This shit.
This is incredible.
Fire.
This is absolutely incredible.
That's vintage T.R. right there.
Yeah.
That's a reminder record.
But everybody talking slick.
And yeah, I know y'all ain't seen,
y'all ain't heard me rap in a minute.
You see the comedy.
You see all this other shit.
This is what I do.
Just in case you forgot.
Yo, I wouldn't be surprised that nigga put that comedy show out
just as the...
Get a little talk going.
Yeah.
Let me show you what was really...
I really was working on.
That's that what you know.
That's the...
first time I was that. That's that. Yeah, I know there's no such thing as a hit anymore,
but whatever the new word is, yeah, that's it. Yeah, flames. They was in the studio dancing. He
was in there saying, we back. Word. Word. And then Farrell was like, yeah, let me get the boo for
that quickly. Ooh. Yeah. God. Damn, I need to hear Shabozy and Young Droze on this
motherfucker. Okay. I need Young Dro on this. That's a Young Drow.
Oh, come on.
Give me young Joe.
That's crazy.
That shit is crazy.
That's amazing.
That's nice right there.
That's amazing.
That was good to hear.
Absolutely.
I just said I was going to stay in the house.
Now you got to hear that outside.
Yo, dog, the only reason I went out.
Did you get a T.I.
I got a T.I.
I got a T.I.
I got a Florida trip in my future.
I got a Vegas trip in my future.
And unfortunately, I have an L.A. trip in my future.
Why is you say unfortunately?
I hate going out there.
It could be tough sometimes.
It's not.
I love it.
If there were ever people,
that were, like, true to where they live at.
Like, I'm so New York that L.A. is just,
it's hustle and bustle time.
It's a million meetings in three days.
It's crowded lobbies.
It's waiters that are waiting for their shot at fame.
Although, I think it was 2016, when we did the fucking crib in the hills,
was zombie and all them, that shit was, that gave me a different view of L.A.
That is better to me than doing, like, the Mondrian, the regular shit.
I mean, don't get a twist.
I've had a lot of fun in L.A.
Some would say too much fun.
Especially the Valley.
Shout to the Valley.
Yeah, but I'll be back.
I'll be back.
That song was sick.
That shit was amazing.
You can't just pull that out.
That wasn't on the board?
Oh, shit, yes, it was.
I pulled that out.
God.
They made fun of the comedy shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, here's this.
Here's a little something.
That's my second job.
Yeah, right.
My first one is this.
right here.
This is what I do.
Laugh at that, nigga.
Hey, don't retire.
You got any more heat like that in the talk before we get to the next argument?
No, that was the only new music.
I think I got to this weekend.
Okay, now we got another classic Joe and Iish argument.
This time I don't feel like it should take too long.
Me and you?
Yeah.
Oh, go ahead.
Right?
I'm listening.
I can't.
Yeah.
Uh, how did this come up?
Me.
Ice was telling me, he was asking everybody for their shoe signs.
Oh, yeah.
in the sneaker game.
And I said,
yo,
I wear 11,
but next to my shoe size,
tell them I might not rock it.
I was just playing around with freeze,
just making jokes.
You know,
I don't know how you construct these deals,
but let them know.
I ain't just putting anything on my foot.
Don't promise the joke.
No guarantees.
Yeah, yeah.
Send jagged edge,
promise.
Nothing is promised when you send my shit over there.
So me and Freeze is joking back and forth,
and then Freeze tells me who the person is
that's asking for the shoe sizes.
So I say,
to him, oh, this is someone that I've worked with previously.
Sure.
Someone who has given me merchandise previously.
I tell him that prior history is very important to me.
Someone's on the upswing now.
Now, I did go into that.
I said prior history is important when deciding these things, so I may wear it now.
Future projections are important as well.
This was a good guy with good product.
I think that this person's stock is headed up.
Yeah.
Count me in.
Mm-hmm.
To which my good brother is chimed in.
Which who the fuck was talking to him?
But my good brother is chimed in.
Am I lying so far?
Yeah, you are.
You bought me in this.
You said, yo, tell them niggas.
I'm not issuing them.
I don't be doing X, Y, and Z.
Oh, I said that.
I said that.
That's what happened.
You absolutely right.
You know, this thing is a great act of reframing the entire picture.
But go ahead.
I did say that.
Yo, I'm not issuing them who just put anything on their feet.
When they come to me, like let them know it might not go down.
But then you chimed in and said,
yo, that matters to you about someone stock going up?
This thing is great.
And I said,
So, Kraout, he added a whole bunch of bullshit
that wasn't there to make it sound great.
He said, oh, yeah, Homeboy's going places.
Count me in.
And I said, that's a deciding factor
on whether you want to wear somebody shit
as if they go in places or not.
And then he said, it's a factor.
It's a big factor.
And to me, you said, yo, so it's not a fact.
for you and I said no.
And then I said, yes it is.
Fam, I've warned people shit in here that
forgive me.
Forgive me.
I know these things ain't gone nowhere.
And I'm just being supportive of the people.
That's not a deciding factor on me
or whether I'm going to support somebody shit.
So what Joe said was right?
What?
Then you just throw on it.
If I'm being supportive of somebody's shit,
yeah.
Like, they trajectory ain't a deciding factor
on what.
whether I want to be supportive or not.
Just one question.
What is the deciding factor for you?
If I like the shit, niggas sitting us clothes all the time.
My nigga, if I don't like it, I'm not going to wear it.
But if I like your shit, I'll wear your shit.
And I don't need no payola.
I don't need none of that.
If I fuck what you like your shit.
I never took taking a dollar.
But I'll wear your shit.
That's just- You can payola in other ways.
Right.
And be clear, I wasn't just talking about wearing somebody's shit.
Like, I was saying if somebody is going places,
then that factors
and if we have a previous history
yes, I factored that in
on if I'm fucking with you or not
100%. Got you. Not about just wearing the sneakers.
And then you said you don't do that, right?
Yeah, if he liked it, he put it on.
No, but just on a broader sense
because that's real narrow.
But there's a difference between
like it something we put it on
and like it something, put it on
in front of three million people every week.
Yeah. If you just wear it
because you like the shit, like that's cool.
Y'all are narrow-minded
my fight week.
is.
Fuck the clothes.
What I took that as, the way I took it
you were saying,
fuck the, I know this person, I like this,
all of that.
If I know this person's
going somewhere and they got something
that I might rock with, oh yeah, then
I'll attack it.
You'll hitch to their wagon.
I don't want to call it hitch,
but I'll fuck with it.
That's what he's saying. I'll fuck with it.
I'll fuck with it. Is that kind of what you were saying?
Yeah, I'm, and I say yes.
I may support it.
I think we all would do it. This is somebody that's giving me
shit in the past. I rock with them. We've a
establish something and I believe them be going
somewhere. I'm fucking with it. I'm fucking with that.
Okay. And if I like the shit.
More importantly. You gotta like it. That's first.
Right.
Y'all both agree that I got to like it. Even if you don't
like it, you're going to fuck with it. You say? No.
No, I'm not. No, I have to like it.
They both got to like it. I have to like it. Okay.
I got a lot of shit I don't like.
And it don't, it stays in the boxes.
Unless we get that. That's true. People send me terrible stuff.
You're trying to win on
clothes and I'm trying
to put you in the corner of
how do you establish your new
relationships and does
that person's stock
factor into how you fuck with them?
No. No.
I'm answering you for the fourth team time.
I got friends that are
going nowhere. Major money. I got friends
that don't have no money. I don't pick and
choose my friends based on what their trajectory
is. He just loves. I got friends
I talk to niggas. Yeah, he's saying, yeah.
New people. No people.
I'm asking you on this part. I just think there's a difference.
New people, I have new friends that don't have
no money. I have new friends that I
I think, no disrespect to nobody,
that are just plateaued and they got...
Yeah.
So not just money, but just...
You can still be a quality individual
and that shit don't matter to me
what your trajectory is.
Oh, yeah.
See, this is a different conversation to me.
We're talking about friendship versus putting something on.
He said that.
Oh, okay.
I was never told my friendship.
He moved it into...
I'm never talking about friendship.
No, not friendship.
No, not friendship.
No, not friendships.
He took it off of clothing and all other shit
and moved to relationships.
And I'm saying, yo, I don't pick and choose
the people that I fuck with
based on what I think they're going to ascend to be.
Oh, me either.
Yeah.
I think that's fine.
And you do.
I think wearing someone's...
Yes, that bitch right here.
Hey Mark.
He too.
See, reason why I said...
If we're not doing that,
then what the fuck is the point of a new friendship?
Look, I'm gonna tell you this.
These things is great.
There's quality people.
But look,
I think Joe said in the room of quality people,
he's going to pick the one
when's high and not.
This is why I said I thought...
This is why I said I didn't agree with it.
But I understand.
Because you're a person that will say, like, yo, you don't even know.
That conversation could lead to X, Y, Z.
That means that that person has some level that could take you to another level.
True.
So they got some, you see something in having that relationship or building that relationship with that person.
Anyone can bring knowledge of three.
But that's not a deciding factor on whether I fuck with somebody or not.
Or support them.
Yeah, I think that's all very different from wearing someone close.
That's not a deciding factor on whether I intern into a relationship.
All right.
Then I had you back wrong, Paul.
I bet you did.
I had you begged wrong.
I just seen how you act with like I, so, but I mean, maybe you change.
You had a, that's funny.
All right.
You might have changed.
You said and you see how he acts.
Say more.
Mark, you're trying to give me the fire my brother.
No, I'm asking for clarity for the audience.
We don't understand.
We don't have your relationship.
Look at here, yo.
I have seen, I've seen, I've seen, I've seen, I've seen,
is communicate when
when
the girl looked like she
worked on Wall Street
and I've seen them communicate
when the girl looked like she worked
on Canal.
Same with men.
You think the communication is different?
The twinkle in your eyes.
Everything.
Not just the communication. I think everything.
Yo,
you know, swag.
Oh, swag.
You ride with that?
No.
You ride with that?
No, please.
I'm not right.
That's why I'm breaking this couch up soon, too.
Anyway, don't worry about that.
This is one of the reasons.
This couch is getting broke up.
You riding with that.
I don't give a fuck why he's riding with him.
Flip ain't ride with that.
No, I'm not.
I'm with you, nigga.
Yeah, flip ain't ride with you, nigga.
I don't think so.
Which has never stopped the car from moving.
Also, which has never stopped the car from moving.
You know better.
All right, that was a quick fight.
That was a quick fight.
That was a quick fight.
Damn.
Good, dude.
That's it.
Yeah.
Nick, you accept everyone.
This is why you have a lot of friends around the world.
That's why I'm trying to paint me with the shitty brush.
Everybody likes the bad bristles.
No, he's just like talking.
It's not one bad thing I heard about you outside.
I would say that.
I would say that.
I've heard bad things, but.
Well, what type of bad thing?
He heard that I be shooting that niggas girls.
Oh, yeah, that's bad.
A few niggins got me in tears.
I heard about that too.
I heard about that.
That's a bad.
That's just, it's bad.
That's not true.
That's not doing that.
Is it your friend?
Was it your friend?
Were you shooting at your friend?
Whoever do that?
This one nigga was telling me a story for 20 minutes while cutting my head.
I had to tell him, yo, but I'm good.
I'm good.
I was like, I can't hear no more.
He's about to fuck my head up talking about this thing.
It's like they introduced you to the girl and then this, you go and shoot at them?
Like, how do you do it?
Or they shoot at you?
This nigga had the, he was like, she was in the freezer aisle.
Yeah, go ahead.
Is.
That's true?
That was in tears, dog.
You took the nigga chicken in a supermarket?
He said she was in the supermarket.
He said she was in the supermarket.
I'm lying.
Oh, dude was lying.
I called you when you were telling me.
Look at my hairline.
You did this.
He tried to move over me.
It's trying to move over from it.
Yeah, I don't want to center on Ish.
It's the Joe Bond podcast.
It's 8 million listeners.
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
But no, actually, I think you do have.
If we say that you're such a great scholar,
we can talk about it for a long time.
But this shit, we can't talk about it.
I'm what you flipped on.
I'll drink to side.
Like, when I meet people who know it's just from all walks of life.
Yeah.
From the high ups to the everyday people.
They have great things to say about them.
Yeah, he don't got picks like that.
Joe, do you think in the next five years
you'll make any friends
to build any relationship
of somebody who's not going anywhere?
No.
Watch your fucking mouth.
He's trying to get rid of what's that guy?
I don't think that's going to happen.
He's a nice guy.
I'll listen to this.
Do you actively try to get rid of some of the people you've...
Do you look at inventory and say,
you know what?
Mike ain't going nowhere.
I just got views on new friendships.
I just got views on new friendships.
Do people get grandfathered in, though?
I don't know.
Keep that point.
I'm weary all you motherfuckers.
Okay.
I'm weary them all.
Don't I say that you all the time?
You got to give me reason or not be weary.
And part of that is what's going on with you?
What you got going on?
The same with women.
You had to learn that lesson.
Start fucking with women that had something going on.
Something to lose.
Yeah, you got to look at a little bit.
It's the same thing to me.
From that side, which is how I heard it first, when I agree with you, I get it.
Like, it's hard to build relationships with people who ain't going to where when you're going somewhere.
And I don't mean money or nothing like that.
I just mean lifewise.
Because that's a recipe for disaster.
It's one thing if you got them people in your life from 20 years ago because you kind of know that you trust them.
But new people that ain't doing shit don't usually, it don't usually end up.
Where does the conversation go after a while?
Because my whole life is work.
Because we've done it.
Yeah.
Most of my whole life is work.
By the time you get to, well, let me speak for me.
At 45 heading into 46, every, all the boxes in my life are there.
Got my friend box, my work box, my relationship box, kids, dad, like a new box, a new person.
I feel you.
I understand.
I'm cool on new people.
Where did they come from?
No new box.
And why?
And why at age, nigga?
And what do you like to do?
Like, where are you coming?
You going to call me when you get out of Sears?
You know, I just picked up a microphone.
What the fuck are you talking about?
I'll do that, nigga, stop that.
I get what you said.
Stop.
That's not nice.
That's not nice.
You're a leader show.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
Answer Marse question, nigger.
Are you trying to get rid of any friends?
Yeah.
I'm not trying to get rid of any friends.
get rid of it. No, I love my friend group, just the way
to do this. I love him. I don't have
any friend that I sit and think about how
to 86 him.
Do y'all?
Yes. Yes. I know.
I got three this on the bubble right now.
Oh, shit.
There's a lot of niggas. You just realized
you're our group, motherfuckers. He wasn't bad choice away.
Yeah, you realize you are our group, niggas.
It's a lot of shit life
will teach you, man. You realize
some of these niggas ain't going nowhere.
How many friends are you got? How many male friends are got?
I had a little bit.
This is a small enough.
A bunch.
This is not a conversation.
I'm just asking my memory is bad.
No, yeah.
A bunch.
74.
Yeah, this nigga got a lot.
Friends?
Like, no, probably about 15.
Like, 15, 20.
Friends.
Do you make a distinction between your friends and your mans?
As I get older, the friend word definitely has more meaning to me now than it used to.
But, yeah, I probably got 15, 20, like, friends.
Niggas I'll get out my bed for it.
It's a lot of niggas.
That's a good measuring stick, too.
Yeah, if you get out to bed.
That's a lot of niggas, man.
Yo, I get out of bed for you, bro.
That's a lot, man.
There's a lot, though.
I'm probably willing to get uncomfortable.
I was comfortable in bed.
Now I got to get up.
I got to show up for you.
Put on my aloe.
Get out the house.
I got to show up for you.
How many people will you show up for?
No, you're right.
So you'll get uncomfortable for them.
I'm just repeating what you said.
He'll get out of the bed and get uncomfortable.
So you'll get out of bed and you'll get uncomfortable.
I told you about the history of Newark.
It must have definitely transition to Jersey City real early.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
He's stupid.
I would ask Mark, but I was at the kickback.
Mark got mad.
He didn't get out of dressed.
He got a bunch of.
He got a bunch of friends.
Yeah, you got a bunch.
People who went to college though, I give them the college pass.
You know, they got a little more.
But I don't consider all in people friends.
There's like the list of like people who come to your house.
I ain't saying the same as the list of people who I would get out of bed for.
That's a much smaller list.
It's probably about the same as yours.
Probably about the same as yours.
How about you flip?
At this age people?
Like five.
Like five people that I would get up for.
I'm counting on my head.
I'm at like eight.
Same clue to me when you say it, though.
You said what?
Because since your number's so low, you got to say including me.
I got five including you.
Make sure.
Do you my included?
Yeah, you included.
All right, so it's really four, y'all.
It's four.
You know.
I don't measure it by getting out to bed out because it may be an emergency and I'm just a helpful guy.
But that's the point.
Who I would go to the extent for about five niggas, five, six niggas.
And you know, with the mess up and you're all saying that some of these people that you'll get out to bed for who you'll go to the extent for.
who you'll get uncomfortable for.
Some of these people are going absolutely nowhere.
No, you got to get rid of the dick,
I'm asking you.
I can't do that no more.
The measure stick that we use in as far as going somewhere,
we talk about career-wise or financially
or whatever the case may be.
I'm talking about character, too.
That's my point.
So a nigger could be going nowhere financially.
Sometimes a nigger's characters are going backwards.
If you never spoke to somebody that you just,
when they're not going anywhere,
you just feel this draining.
What do you have to talk about?
What can you?
What's the relatability now?
He's still got them TV.
He's still got them TV for them.
What is the related?
Because now I don't judge anybody because any nigga can be useful.
If you're not, if you're not useful, if you can't be used, you can be useless.
So any nigga could be, you know what I'm saying?
There's some niggas that you're saying, bro, bro, I got, but what I'm saying is that have you ever
spoke to some of them?
He was trying.
He was trying to say, come on.
No, no, stop, stop, stop.
I'm saying that there's niggas out here that you can use for other things.
It's a big broadcast.
You can use them for.
for other things besides business.
That's what I'm saying.
He's saying if you're not useful, then you're useless.
Oh, yeah, like if you're having some trouble
on one of the Brooklyn streets.
What nigga are you doing?
Anybody that may be having trouble
on the Brooklyn streets.
You wouldn't do nothing if I had trouble
in the Brooklyn streets anyway, nigga.
But I'm still in that five.
It's a damn shame we're having to flip.
I can see you right now.
You wouldn't do nothing.
So don't worry about the Brooklyn streets.
What I'm saying, though, you know what I'm saying.
I do.
Speaking of somebody, it's just draining, nigga.
That's it.
But I got friends
Same story.
It's like a fucking circle.
I have friends that are
going somewhere
and sometimes talking to them
niggas is drained.
I agree with you.
Shout them out.
You get what I'm saying?
So I got friends that don't necessarily
based on the context
that we talk about financially
and shit like that
that's not going nowhere
but them is my niggas
and I love them
and we engage in good conversation.
I'm not picking my friends.
That's like some cute bitch shit
where they just pick their friends
based on the girls that's cute.
Huh?
They girl,
picking their home girls based on who's cute.
That shit is whack to me.
What has to happen for y'all to consider someone a friend?
Like what, what?
Some solid shit.
Yo, nigger changed my tire, yo.
I love her.
I was stuck with an eye to file.
Nicarang my tire.
It's fuck out of here, nigga.
It's easy to be your friend, isn't it?
Be honest.
It's not.
It's easy to be cool with me, but for you to be my friend,
no, that ain't easy.
You got to go through some shit.
Yeah, like, I don't fuck with these nings.
I agree.
I love you
Listen, I'm very
Listen
You know what time it is
You know what I'm right
That nigga me
He's lying
He ain't tricking me
We sent to them enough
So he ain't tricking me
Life after
Digger better
Digger
Wait that
Oh my dog
No you not
He just shaved you
A fucking orange juice
Digger
Now he's a dog
Why?
That's not me
Because he gave you a straw
Stupid nigga
No
You know
You got 15 friends
Enough of that
My man
My man
My man shit too
Why
dead that
I'm gonna
if you got just got 15 brands
I don't want to hear that many
my men
yo somebody
that I know
somebody that I know
I'm on a broadcast
if I'm telling the story
that happened with some people
what I'm supposed to
let me ask you
a guy I know
your last question
because I knew
it would move up
it works
we talked about this before
right
so if you have a man
and I say you're out
and he's rude
to a waiter
is it over for him
because you said you don't like that
like if he's new
is it over
if he my man
I'm gonna be like
why the fuck
you been an asshole
to the waiter
oh but just
still talk.
Yeah, I'm going to cut people off.
I argue with my friends, bro.
Clearly.
It just don't cut nobody.
It's crazy, mom.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm good.
Is it cool?
Yeah, I'm good.
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All right now it's time for our worst take
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I would promise you that it's going to be short, quick, and concise.
We got it.
But it never is.
It never is.
They promised me it would be this time.
So let's see.
Gentlemen, what did you think of the games?
Great slate of football this weekend for the most part,
except for Seahawks absolutely destroyed the Niners.
It wasn't even funny.
That team is impressive.
Park, you root for the Bears, right?
No, you're for the dolphins.
Never mind.
I am a Dolphins fan.
But I was rooting for the Bears,
and that was an amazing game, Caleb Williams,
through one of the best passes I've ever seen in my entire life.
Amazing.
I actually saw that.
I was out and I saw it on the TV and I was like,
yo, that shit looked epic.
That shit was...
Same night.
Mark, we got it.
We'll do the football.
No, no, I want to ask you.
We'll do the football, buddy.
I'm not, I'm asking, because I don't know.
I'm saying, so, like, I'm assuming Chicago was the underdog there?
They were hosting.
They were the home team.
So they weren't really the underdog,
although the Rams, a lot of people view as the best team in the NFC.
I disagree.
I think the Seahawks are, but they're both great teams.
So we got a good NFC championship,
game coming up.
We do.
A little bit less exciting in the AFC.
Great Bill's Denver game, but then Bo Nix is out for the year.
So that's going to, yeah, we get Patriots Denver with a backup quarterback.
Boom.
Sorry.
So who's going to the Super Bowl from the AFC then?
Probably the Patriots.
More than likely.
Wow.
More than likely.
Yeah, the Patriots had the easiest schedule in the league.
They got to play play.
Playoff Herber.
they got CJ with five
turnovers and now they get
Denver's backup
and it looks like they will be in the Super Bowl
congratulations to all the Patriot fans out there
talk about a rebuild
quick talk about a quick fast
talk about Drake May
they talked a lot of shit about that pick
panned out
Brable is him talk about getting away from a coach
when it don't work and then hiring one that does
man man you got to salute that
CJ, way to let down
One of the best defensive efforts
I've ever seen in a football game
Yeah, why are people saying that?
Because Texas, the Texas defense is really like that.
I know, but yo, dog, he couldn't breathe.
Yeah, but he was a party in the backfill, my nigga,
like he was trying to make some shit happen.
They blame him like, my nigga, he's like,
huh, ha, ha, ha.
What the fuck?
They were fucking him up.
He wouldn't have even been in the game
to start the second half if I were coaching.
Oh, I.
We were, my deities.
You the best of them?
And I hate to tell you, they really had a shot to win the game until the end.
Which is why I would have been to.
Remember, I text you like, yo, dog, they're not putting them away.
I thought Houston was going to come back and win that game.
Because they weren't really putting them away until one of them picks.
Houston, your defense really showed up.
CJ, I have no idea what the fuck you was doing.
Somebody tweeted me and said, CJ ain't been the same since he gave Amber a ride.
And I'm inclined to agree.
Talk about an epic falloff from his first season.
that these last year.
Shultz is the man.
Nico is the man.
Neither one of them played.
They couldn't run the ball for shit.
Don't they was on his ass.
I think that's an unfair criticism, but nonetheless.
He's stunk it up.
You can't look the way that he looked and not come away with criticism.
They have him in interviews when he was saying the top, the best quarterbacks in the league.
He put himself in the top five.
You can't go out there and do that.
Granted, your run game did nothing.
You were without Shultz.
You without Collins.
Still, and the weather was bad.
Run the ball.
Do something.
You cannot.
do what he did and not have some criticism.
Sorry.
And he's got a fifth year option coming up.
Talk about somebody that lost a lot of money.
Talk about losing yourself a shit ton of money.
That's what he went out there and did.
Congratulations to the Patriots.
Who else?
Who else? Josh Allen.
Sean McDermott, out as coach of the bills.
I didn't shock me.
There's rumblings that they were going to move on from him.
What's the argument?
Because they've been so successful.
Can't get over the hump.
Can't get over the.
The Mike Tomlin argument, that niggas is saying, like, yo, dog, we just keep getting right here.
I disagree with it, but...
Yeah, but they got further, though.
And they was playing Patty, bro.
Josh Allen, you have to win that game.
Sorry.
Yeah.
It's no excuse.
You have to win that game in a playoff with no Burrow, no Mahomes, no Jackson.
He had a couple...
He had some bad turnovers himself.
He didn't play great.
He always has bad turners.
He just be going under the wraps.
Yeah, he's throwing the ball to fucking Kincaid and Keon,
Coleman.
Yeah, their general management has dropped the ball for that team.
I think they're a bigger scapegoat than McDermott.
Well, he's gotten a promotion, the general manager of the Bills.
He'll be in charge of the coaching search.
So let's see how that goes.
Yeah, I feel bad for Bills fans.
This should have been the year.
And now it's, who knows, what the future looks like for them.
And I would much rather see them in this playoff without Bowe Nix being there.
I agree.
I'm so glad I get to turn on my TV and not see Bo Nix.
I'm not the biggest Bo Nix fan.
You drafted him.
I did.
That's why I'm still mad at him.
That's why I'm still mad at him.
I'm not the biggest Bo Nix fan, but I don't want to see Jared Statham or whatever his name is.
Jason Statham.
Jason Statham playing quarterback.
Their defense is for real, though, so it might be a game, but I can't see them.
Bo Nix is the Tom Brady of Gino Smiths.
What?
What you're saying?
Bo Nix is the Tom Brady of Gino Smiths.
I mean...
You understand that?
I do.
Oh, please enlighten me.
He's a great game manager, I think, is what you're trying to say ultimately.
He's the best one in that body.
He's the best of that class.
But he had some very good clutch moments during the year.
He's a solid quarterback.
And I hope he gets well soon.
You don't wish your injury like that on anybody, especially somebody that's making a Super Bowl run.
Especially on a young kid.
A kneel down in the fucking fourth quarter to set up a field goal.
That was crazy.
I had no idea he was even injured until I saw a Schaefter tweet.
I was like, what the fuck happened?
I didn't know that either.
On the final Beers drive in the Bears Rams game, after that unbelievable touchdown to...
I never seen no shit like that.
Was that Kemet?
Yeah.
I think that was Kemet?
Yeah.
I think Ben Johnson should have went for two to win the game.
No.
I like that.
I like the go for two.
I don't like that say to try to play for OT shit.
Go for it right here.
Nah.
Live with it, die with it.
Go for it.
Bro, the Bears have been doing miraculous things in the fourth quarter and overtime.
The whole season.
The whole entire season.
I'm going to let my defense go win the game for me in OT.
And the defense played pretty well.
Yeah.
In the O.T.
Only one problem with that.
Yeah, that boy.
That boy's over there.
And in that horrible weather in Chicago, I don't know if y'all saw Matt Stafford.
He looked like he was in the playground.
Yeah, he was comfortable.
That play across the field.
I think he played in Detroit, his whole.
That's indoors, though.
Oh, that is true.
I'm saying how he threw the ball outside was he didn't have a care in the world.
Not at all.
Dangerous balls all over the place.
In the end zone.
Same play.
Run it again.
Same play.
Let's try it on others.
He was just flicking that shit.
Yeah, he was.
Matt Stafford is different, man.
I'm not going to hold you.
Can't wait to see him go against that Seattle defense.
That defense is for real, for real.
What are you going to see?
Yeah.
Yeah, the Rams special teams almost gave that Beards game away again, kicking it to their fucking 50.
Yeah.
We're going to see.
That was scary.
But special teams, y'all got to show up against that Seattle team.
They look for real.
Seattle's for real.
That Sam Darnold, that Sam Darnel touchdown to Jackson, Exit-Smith.
Yeah.
Like, cornered the end zone.
Oh, my God.
But on top of that, just the way they attacked the ball as the offensive line, is the defensive line.
They just, it's like they're fast and strong and play aggressive as fuck.
When you see, when you see they D line, it's three motherfuckers that look like refrigerators on the D line.
Like, it's hard as hell to run the ball on them.
They get after your quarterback, bro.
They made Purdy look like y'all saying, homeboy look.
Yeah.
They was fucking him up, bro.
I'm rooting for the Rams.
I may pick the Seahawks.
We'll see how I feel on Friday.
Seahawks winning that game.
Yeah, I see Seahawks and Pats.
Seahawks.
I see Seahawks.
Rams pads.
I thought it was going to be Seahawks Jacksonville,
but I see Seahawks Pats.
Y'all see the national game?
I watched it, yeah.
That was a real good game.
It was a very good game.
Really, really, really, really good game.
I was rooting for Indiana.
Of course.
Shout out more.
Signetti is the truth.
Signet is the truth.
And Mendoza looks like he's the truth, too.
That was a great game.
Miami probably overachieved this year,
and they played great.
Can you say that?
Can you say they overachieved?
Yeah, they're not even like the guy
and got that got blown out or?
No, they play great.
They're a good team.
They just were.
Indiana looks like grown men playing against boys, yo.
Yeah.
All season.
They are older players for the most part, so that plays a factor in it.
But they run a really good organization over there.
16 and 0.
It don't matter.
They're going to have to deal with Carson Beck for another three years.
At 20s, he's going to be 30.
Yeah, it's Carson Beck.
You got classes.
They keep fucking them up.
Yo, do you have classes?
He said, I graduated two years ago.
I don't have any classes.
That's crazy.
NIL, we ain't leaving school?
Hell.
We ain't not leaving no school.
I'll be here for nine, ten years.
Gwagon on the campus.
Gwack.
That as a freshman.
Go ahead, Carson, Ben.
Anyway, these people are going to keep hyping up a white quarterback.
What's the homeboy name, Frank Mendoza?
What's his name?
You know how it's just somebody's name.
But it's not Frank.
It ain't Frank, no.
He's like so.
He's tough.
Yeah, he's tough.
It'd be the most hyped up 156 yards a game you ever seen.
Every game is 166 yards, 145 yards, 170 yards, and they make it look like he's just out there.
Listen.
Those two fourth-down drives, though, I don't get for, how many yards you got?
That's a dog quarterback.
He seems like a dog, and he seems like he's definitely got a high IQ.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Super high IQ.
We'll see how it's.
But I was around for, I was around for Burrow and Andrew Luck and just.
Surgeons.
I was around.
I was around for some good college runs.
He ain't.
He's not in that tier.
They're trying to make it seem like that.
No, he's not there.
Oh, okay.
That's more of a product of the coach and the system that he's built over there to be
than the quarterback.
But he's going to go the first pick to the Raiders.
I'm pretty sure.
Yeah.
And then the draft is up in the air.
Yeah.
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
Congratulations to Indiana, man.
A basketball team?
Winning some football?
Keeping it on sports as soon as I find my wire.
Not sure if you guys saw, but there is an up-and-coming YouTube show that was discussing Clarissa Shields
when none other than Clarissa Shields herself called in, allegedly, as someone that knows
Clarissa Shields, not as herself, to defend the name of Clarissa Shields.
I know that was confusing, but that really is what happened.
If you would like to hear it, it goes a little something like this.
Hello?
Yeah.
Yeah, mute your TV for me.
Yeah, you want to black talking about Horace the Shield?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, mute your TV for me.
Go ahead.
I saw I miss your call.
Okay, go ahead.
So, I'm sitting up your listening to this live and I see so much misinformation.
Okay, well, go ahead.
Okay, well go ahead, go ahead.
Hold on, hold up, go ahead.
I want to hear you, I want to hear you.
I want to hear you.
I'm lying seeing that this woman owes tax money.
Why are y'all lying saying that her image is ruined?
Well, hold on, correct that then because there's a lady
who put out some tax records today on her site
and we're all like where'd they come from,
like Clarissa Schilm owes money based on the document she provided.
So clear that up for us because I'm glad.
Your Choresa Shields, nobody's doing...
Hello?
They're running behind Tasha Kaye and Legiza Dean believe in anything to ask about
Clarifying question, because I don't know Clarissa Shields's voice very well.
Is she disguising her voice right now?
This sounds like Clarissa Shields.
Okay, so she didn't even try that.
This is not her with a voice coder.
This is not her trying to disguise.
She sounds exactly like Larissa Shields, which is a large part of why this is hilarious.
Dr. Cade and Legita Dean believe in anything bad said about Correction.
Well, her life has been documented since she was 15 years old.
Well, hold on, hold on, hold on a second.
Hold on.
Hold on a second.
I'm going to let you talk because I'm not rude.
And I'm not saying you're being rude.
Now, I don't watch Tasha Kaye.
I don't even know who the other person is.
But the ladies in the chat, they definitely know who they are.
So just to let you know.
So, but go ahead.
I want to hear.
from you because I'm glad somebody who are enough of you home boy very very false I know
correct to myself so therefore no it's not true secondly you're you are talking about that her
image is destroyed how are you guys on this live the girl you had just before to say that
oh he only made eight million dollars like eight million is not a lot of money since if he has the
most lucrative boxing deal in women's boxing when do we start doing this of okay keep going
So you don't think her image has been destroyed because of the deal?
It's not about no.
She has not done anything for her image to be destroyed.
She is a female buster.
What else is he supposed to do?
But what does that mean?
No.
Okay.
Listen, this was a long exchange, but by the end of it, she was no longer in third person.
She's not saying I am me.
I refuse to believe this.
I refuse to believe this.
I was a fan of Clarissa.
I've done videos on Clarissa.
You go back on my channel saying she should be a gazillion there.
This is effed up.
I don't see why this girl doesn't have gazillions of dollars
with everything that she's accomplished.
Now, in the last two months,
that's where it's like I started doing these lies
and let people call in and speak.
But now, you don't follow my channel.
Come on, hurry up home boy.
I don't know what I hear you.
We're not here for you.
I just start doing these lives,
so you probably don't even know who I was.
That's fucked up when it's his show.
But I spoke highly of Clarissa.
Because you're saying that my tickets aren't selling for the fight.
You know what you're saying that?
Um, taxes and then you're making up all this stuff about my image.
And um, literally getting them, training, running, getting ready for the fight, taking care of, taking care of family.
And then you just keep on coming up with more and more lives.
And then you're letting people come on your channel and few more lies and don't even speak the truth.
You don't need, none of y'all have spoken.
I'm not.
I'm not going on here lying about, about me.
about me every single day.
This is great.
Wow.
That's great.
I thought he's exaggerating.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Shout to Clarissa Shields, first of all.
That's hilarious.
And the caller.
I'm sure her very good friend.
As you can guess, people were having a good time with this one.
I'm sure.
As he should.
I think this is brilliant.
That's so embarrassing.
Huh?
I think it's absolutely brilliant
Why she wouldn't just say
Hey it's me
Yeah I'm not mad at the calling
But you're acting like you're somebody else and forgot
That's what happened
She felt like she didn't want to give them clout
Yeah because she shouldn't be calling that show
Yeah
Like in a celebrity's brain
And the celebrities brand I'm not calling
You say what you want
But your words are not getting to me
So I'm calling me
So I'm calling me my friend
And then oops
Very close friend
But just ride to lie out
That's all I'm saying.
You've got to be able to ride with the lie.
If you're third person in it.
She's got triggered.
You can't turn into yourself in the middle of the...
Yeah.
I forgot.
Pap, pap.
It's a time to come downstairs, man.
She's got...
Pat, pap upstairs.
It's the time.
Yeah, she is downstairs running a muck.
No, for real.
Every part of that plan is fucked up.
Like, you call in with your own voice.
You know what I'm saying?
And then in the middle of conversation,
you can't control your emotion.
is enough to be like, just stay as the friend?
Hang up.
Right.
You can even hang up and call back as Clarissa.
Like something.
Yeah, Matt, she's walking in right now.
Right.
That's wild.
But how do you get to the point where you,
no disrespect to these men who I don't know?
But how do you even find people talking about you
on a random live podcast on YouTube?
That's a very good question.
Somebody might call you.
Somebody put you on.
Your name search out.
They got them Google shit.
You'll search their names.
Yeah.
She's too important and two.
talented to be finding herself on a random
Listen, the algorithm will put that
shit right on Clarissa Shield's phone
Hey, some no name, nigga
It's talking about you right now, live here's
The phone number
The algorithm will put somebody
With one view talking shit about
your ass right there
And I'm not suggesting this for their wonderful
relationship, shout out to Papoos
But is there anything your girl could do
That's so corny or embarrassing
That would make you be like, all right, I've had enough?
I would be with my girl
doing this.
Yeah, this is great.
You serious?
I'll be right there laughing on the couch.
Get him, babe.
Give her a little nudge.
That's what she needs.
She just needs someone to nudge her.
No, use the accent.
Use the fake voice.
Because if your girl is mad enough to do that,
you can't be against it.
Yeah, you got to get her back.
Well, then give her a voice to code or something.
That's true.
Give her some game then.
And when your girl got hands like that,
It's just like, all right, ma, whatever you.
You know what, let's go.
You're right.
You're right.
Yeah, he fucked up.
You're right.
Get them.
He wouldn't say it to your face, babe.
No, you might gas up.
Would y'all do it?
What?
Make your girl stop?
No, call into a show, pretending to be somebody else or defending you.
No.
No.
I don't even make fake Instagram account.
I know people who do like the fake Twitter and Instagram to like defend theirself online.
I understand why people do that.
I'm always too scared of getting caught.
I call up as me, nigger.
I call up as me, nigga.
I call up.
as me. Yeah.
Let's flip. What up?
Yeah, if I'm a call, I'm calling it's me.
To me, that's better.
I've done that before, where I, especially like them
right-wing shows, the radio shows, I'll call in
and then, like, confront them on air. They usually hang up,
or they'd say, we don't believe it's you would hang up to get out of it.
But to me, the cool part is being able to confront
them as you. Like, you ain't got to be nobody else.
Mark home.
You know, Mark on my hell pussy.
Mark is hard.
Mark is on the truck on the shit.
Yeah, exactly.
Mark is home calling the right-wing news stations.
I've done that at least two of the ones.
three times.
Oh my God.
This week.
When they send the boys out,
yo,
I might not get out of bed.
I'm a fuck.
Boy, come out of the heart.
Clarissa and Pap,
we love you, yo.
We do.
Yo, do whatever.
If that's what your heart
leads you to do,
go ahead and do it.
No, Joe.
No.
Clarissa,
what I do respect,
my sister,
if their heart leads you to
do that, you should
listen to somebody else's heart.
Do not call nobody else's
YouTube.
Do not calling you too cool,
you're too big,
you too important to be doing that.
You should be getting celebrated
and not laugh that for shit like this.
You too, we love you.
Don't do this.
Don't follow your heart.
The internet gets the people, man.
Oh, I get it.
Emotions, man.
That's it.
Niggas be making up friends.
You know what I mean?
People do all kinds of shit on internet.
You'd be fucking dumb.
What I'm saying is I'm a fan.
Like what?
Same.
I support this.
When it pops up on my phone.
You go on.
I look at it is all I'm saying.
That's it.
That's it.
That's all I'm saying.
This is classic.
This is better than M.F. Doom sending out
fakes to the concert.
Jeremiah. This is right up there
with that. I can't believe they did that.
That's the greatest shit ever.
Jeremiah sent somebody. Who is that his brother
or somebody? He sent down there to do
the show? It's somebody.
Somebody. Somebody. Oh, my, my, boy.
What else? What else? What else?
Come on, let's get to some social justice.
Okay. Let's get to social justice.
Come on. Before we get to social justice, can we do
social irritation?
Sure. Sure. There is a video going around
of this woman.
She's in the restaurant with her
baby who we believe is about a month old.
What restaurant?
I don't know the name of it, but it's like a...
It's nice?
It wasn't super nice.
Just looking at the background.
Outbacky?
But more local.
So it's not even like a chain where like, you know what I mean?
And they're chilling.
And the baby's crying.
I think race may matter here.
So I'm only, I'm mentioning race because some people may think race matters here.
It's a black woman and her baby.
Okay.
White man on the other side
And his restaurant
Is where?
I don't know the location
It's fine
It's fine
I could guess
Go ahead
I could guess
If you told him
Get a mental picture
Right
He asked her
To do something about it
Or basically to leave
The restaurant
Is this another
A patron or he worked there?
He didn't work there
He didn't work there
He was a patron
Okay
He was a patron
And
As a matter of fact
I got some audio here
She basically said
Why don't you text that to me
Yeah me do
Parkes
Stop, okay
Why you made that thing?
Because this is one of those topics
where before it's introduced
I knew the side that I was on.
So you see what I said.
So you heard of the street.
Let me hear a little bit more.
Then I heard some audio.
And now it's...
Here we go.
All right, come on.
Let's hear this.
All right, we're back.
So stop screaming.
Beautiful little baby.
I know it's loud, but he's an adult and he can leave and he chooses not to leave.
He's choosing me to tell me to take my baby out because he had cancer of you.
I would let this kid say,
there's nobody, but they seem to be the only two people in the restaurant.
You came to me about my child.
Did you address me about an eight-month-old?
Oh, to have no.
For my child to be able to have a voice.
And that's not up to you as an adult to, to, to, chastise me or to or to whoop me because my child is speaking.
You can't remove yourself from this restaurant.
No, you're disrespectful, you're entitled, and you're being privileged right now because it's me about my child.
And then you're upset that I'm reacting.
I'm reacting to your response.
Does this escalate anywhere else?
I think we can stop here.
Okay, okay.
I'm heard enough.
And where do you stand?
I think it's some white entitlement shit where you could tell somebody to take their child and leave because they're crying.
Get the fuck out my face, my nigga.
And for anybody that has kids, your kids don't cry at the opportune time.
Your kids are crying.
The kids are emotional.
They're going through whatever they're going through.
It's a part of life.
Well, that's why I was going to ask,
am I the parent or a patron?
They're both patrons.
But which one am I?
Their baby's leaving.
As I give an opinion.
If I'm a parent, I totally, totally, totally agree.
And in real life, I agree, period.
But for the sake of the shit,
if I'm a patron, still I'm a black person, right?
So if somebody
Yeah, that changed things.
No, it does play a part.
It does.
It does. It plays a huge part.
It plays a part.
It plays a part.
Like you had asked a question off mic.
Yo, was she by herself?
I knew she was by herself.
And I knew the dude was white.
Unfortunately, I knew he was white and I knew she was alone.
White people in the past have a pension for beach.
Putting their noses in other people.
business where they don't belong.
The whole thing of
camera. And this is one of those examples for me.
If somebody is
in a restaurant with their
eight month old,
who the fuck are you to come over here
and tell me about the noise?
He's saying he has sensitive ears
and at that shrieking.
He was on the other side of the restaurant
is during the day.
What are we doing?
I've been on airplanes
with kids won't stop crying.
It ain't the most pleasant thing,
but what you're going to do about it?
Like, it's a part of life.
And again, to anybody that has a child,
you got a grin and bear it.
but you're in a public place
where you have the option to leave
leave motherfucker he looked like he was like waiting
for a seat too he wasn't even like sitting
yeah go somewhere else
leave fuck out another question though another question
no my nigga you can leave if
take him out for a minute just you as the parent
you're sitting there and your kid is screaming like that
like embarrassing level screaming
do you feel compelled to leave I've done it before
even if nobody asked you to just like I don't want to do this to these people
like I mean
I've done it I've done it yo you know what we gotta go
like this my son
When he was two and three and wasn't really understanding me,
he got to the restaurant and wigged out.
Oh.
Yeah.
Ah!
Like, they get to the restaurant and do shit.
You ain't never even seen them do before.
It's like, are you acting up because we here?
What the fuck?
Some new shit.
Then it's like, yeah, man.
Then other people start staring at you looking like,
do you have it under control?
You really moving because you look like you don't have
it under control. So now I'm gonna take it to the bathroom and get some of this control.
Once we get in this bathroom, Shannon Jackson time.
Back in the days. Once we get this bathroom, whoa.
But again, at eight months old, at a year old, a year and a half old, ain't no control, my niggins.
Like, you can't stop that. I was on the airplane. I was on a seven-hour flight.
And my daughter's- And experienced racism?
No, my daughter cut up for about 45 minutes and you'd be sitting there feeling a little guilty,
but it's nothing you could do.
And they're on a plane, it's a little different.
Bro, there's nothing you could do.
In that restaurant, if my baby
is cutting up like that young, you didn't
try it to pass the fire, you don't try it all these other things.
Try the bottle, get a bottle, and the baby
just acting out, I have left.
Do you have a duty to the other people
in the restaurant? Like a plane you can't do
nothing about, certain situations you can't do nothing about.
But just as a member of a community, like, you have a duty
to be like, yo, if my kid's acting a fool, I shouldn't be here.
Or like, knowing, like, most people know their kids.
Like, I know I can't bring my kid to certain places.
Like, you're the one that should be.
be answering this.
I don't know where.
I ain't going to lie.
Like, you ask it, but you should be the answerer.
I would feel the way if somebody came to me and say, yo, you need to take that kid out of here.
I would feel a way.
But I also would take my kid out.
If he were.
Let me pull the slingshot out.
Hey, Mark, is there, is there like a respectable way that they can even say anything or no?
Well, that was what I've been thinking about.
Is there ever a time where a person should tell anybody something about their kid?
No, I think you gotta eat it.
Like, I think as the parent or as the person
that brings the noisy kid in,
you should have a level of respect for everybody in there.
But if you don't have that level of respect,
then I still don't think that the people in here
can really say much.
Like, yo, when you start talking about children
and shit like that, dog, it's a line to be drawn.
Now, how about the restaurant itself?
One more questions.
How about the restaurant itself?
Do you have one on this topic
that we all clearly agree on?
We agree.
Okay.
then I'm done.
Good.
I don't think he agrees.
Mark is an officer.
Yeah, I don't see it the same way.
That's why I'm asking the question.
But then we should hear how you feel.
I just did.
I just said how I feel.
But I was asking another question,
which is why I think we might disagree.
That's where I was going.
Please.
My question was, does the restaurant have a responsibility
to do something different?
Because my answer there, I think is what we're going to disagree.
I think the restaurant has a right to be like,
yo, this ain't working for our ambiance.
This ain't working for what we're trying to do.
And I don't care if the parent feels.
I don't care how the parent feels.
I get it as another person.
you can't do that, but as the restaurant,
I'm like, yo, you got the role.
Because you fuck up the experience for everybody else.
That's kind of a good one.
That message will be sent through the town
of wherever that restaurant is.
So if that's going to work for the restaurant, awesome.
There's going to be some ramifications.
Yeah, maybe they won't bring that loud as eight-month-old.
Who's not going to be?
I'm not going there because they don't allow eight-month-old in there.
That ain't how that would go in that particular instance.
If anybody does have the-
The restaurant has a right.
Out of anybody, the restaurant does have a right.
Because we have more than one customer to attend to.
That's what I'm saying.
And to have a, like, a fiduciary responsibility to everybody in the restaurant as opposed to just one person.
Yeah, I...
That's what I'm saying.
I don't want to belabor, but there's something selfish about being like, fuck everybody else at some point.
Yeah, but if he were the restaurant owner, then my entire statement would change.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I agree.
I agree.
That's what I said.
But Patreon needed the shit smacked out of him.
Indeed.
Especially to a single mother.
And if you're going to say something to a single black mom whose kid is screaming,
and how about can I help you with something?
Agreed.
Is there any way I could say?
Yeah, sometimes, boy?
Bring some toys.
Like the restaurant should bring like some crayons or something, you know,
something to like lighten this situation up.
Yeah.
Or put a sign out to say I don't want kids at the restaurant.
Are there some things that kids just,
shouldn't be at, right?
Like...
The movies?
Baby Charlotte.
Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Miracle Watch recently was online.
If you don't know her, she's married to a homeboy
or the girls just drooling over,
or she's getting married to him.
I forgot his name.
Is Aaron Pierre?
No.
Tyler's on.
I don't know.
I don't know who married to.
Tylerson.
All of this.
Hey, all of London, the niggas look alike.
Stupid nigger.
Anyway.
Anyway, yeah, fine, his name for me, Freeze.
I'm about to.
But Miracle Watts went online and said,
listen, I'm getting married soon
this year, and I'm doing
a non-traditional.
Tyler, I'm doing a, thank you.
I'm doing a non-traditional wedding.
Here are the things that I want done differently
at my wedding.
And one of those things was no kids.
Yeah, I'm with it.
It won't be none of mine.
She said there'll be no invitations
because there'll be digital only.
She's not wasting money on invitations.
Okay.
I'm with it.
She said her and her husband
will be sleeping together
the night before.
She understands the tradition
of not seeing your room,
but she's doving that.
I'm sleeping with minds.
Fuck that.
She said,
I'm not doing any bridesmaids.
I'm not doing the traditional bridesmaids
where they all walk down to Al
and there's a bunch of us.
I'll pick a few of y'all
and it ain't going to be a bunch
and we ain't going to do too much.
She says she's not doing a wedding cake.
No wedding cake.
I ain't going to hold you.
Let me just finish.
Okay.
She said no wedding cake.
This sounds like something to me.
She don't want to do that.
She said she's not doing a cape.
A cape.
On her.
A train.
On her.
The train on her wedding gown.
She said she's not doing that.
No honeymoon either, right?
I don't think she said anything about the honeymoon.
No bouquet.
No way.
I'm hearing.
You know, there's a new shit.
We're going to do no liquor.
No ice.
Be my old.
Be wet, my nigger.
She said she was still.
She said she said, she said,
She was still deciding on if there would be a videographer.
Nah, y'all got phones.
Or not.
We could.
Oh shit.
My little cousin, good with the TikTok.
And I hate to tell you, Alexa is a monster DJ.
Oh, shit.
I can hear what this is a pile of a week.
Oh, and she said, no first look for her.
She's not doing any of that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And she said, no bouquet toss.
I said, no bouquet.
Flowers cost, nigger.
This wedding must be free.
Right.
That's a kickback
I'm gonna
y'all, I'm gonna keep it up
You know, I'm really
You on that Popeye's flow, you know what I'm saying?
Yo, chicken sale was back
So honestly, your honest opinions
On this is that
Cost cutting.
She's cutting.
I'm not going to this wedding.
Is that homeboy?
Homeboy gave a 20 grand and was like,
figure it out.
20?
20.
20?
20 is not about 20.
It's about $5,000.
Actually, we don't even need a venue for this.
We can go to the justice of the piece
and you just sign this shit.
It sounds like they just want to go to
City Hall and have a little party out.
A kickback, Orange Park.
When the moon is right, oh.
When the sun hit 45 degrees.
You only got about 12 minutes, though.
We got to make this shit careful.
I do, you, do you?
What fuck is you talk about?
I'm not mad at a non-traditional wedding.
I just think this is not a wedding.
This is not a wedding.
Yeah, it's pretty extreme.
We know what that is.
It's pretty extreme.
I mean, that's the beautiful thing about a wedding.
You can make it however the fuck you wanted to be.
Long as a special to y'all.
If I were friends with either of them, though, I would be encouraging.
But that's the first thing I said when I've read all of this,
or I heard her say all of this.
I was like, if I were her people, I'm not going to his wedding.
No, I would.
If I were his people, I'm not going his wedding.
We're not wearing guns greener.
I'm not going to that wedding.
We make it jokes.
I'm not going to that way.
I'm not dressed up.
What if it's stock is rising?
What if it's somebody you think of his wedding at this point?
I'm not going to that wedding at all.
This stock ain't rising with a wetting like that.
That's a good boy.
I can actually tell you what your stock going with this way
You're what the niggins I want to get away from
You know that's fucking I can tell you where you're stock moving
You got what?
You got a jerk chicken there
Honestly to be all just
Big Mama selling plates
Yeah man we do I respect
I really I really respect that
That wedding
Let me talk please
I'm married a lady nigga
You got married you got married you guys
You did this sorry
No she got
I'm inviting nobody
You can somebody just talk?
Sorry, go ahead.
She has an image that's out in the world, right?
Of being a certain way.
I think that's kind of dope that she would, look, this is the man I want to marry.
He might not have the utmost amount of money, and this is all we can afford.
So he can afford.
Yeah, I'm just happy to be with him.
I thought her father's will take him, man.
I'm saying, like, her brain could cover him.
What?
I thought the bride's fault that was supposed to take it covered away, right, Paul?
Historically, yeah.
Good luck.
Traditional.
Yeah, dowry.
Good luck with that.
They got to know them.
Oh, shit.
This nigga here, yeah.
But I think it's fine.
If I were going to have this wedding, I wouldn't go on the internet and tell
that this is the wedding I'm having.
Or I'm trying to get ahead of it.
Yeah, that's what it is.
I might be trying to get ahead of it.
Because when it come out, based on her image, bro.
But it's never coming out if I'm having this wedding.
You can't have a phone and come.
Ain't nobody going to have a phone.
You're a photographer.
You're a photographer.
You're a photographer.
She just said you might not have a photographer.
Joe.
Yo.
You know, you're going to leave.
You know, you're a photographer.
Because they're going to leave.
And be like,
nobody, if my wedding.
That nigga wedding,
yeah.
Let me tell you what they.
This wedding sound like it's going to be in a barn.
And if my wedding is in a barn,
barren costs too much.
No, barns can be kind of fly.
Barnes can be fly.
I think you're looking for a pavilion or.
That shit is in a park with a gazebo.
Looking like parks backyard.
That shit might be a right.
A yard.
That shit is in a park in the gazebo.
Again, I think I think it's a lack of funds if I had to judge.
But I'm really happy.
that they're doing that.
I ain't worried about ice ain't going to spare no expense, boy?
Like this ain't.
I just getting this.
Listen, if you're asking me, we spending too much time on this, I don't have to worry about
this.
Ice ain't going to spare no expense.
Oh.
Come on ice.
We good.
I'm going to spare no expense.
But you said no kids.
Yeah, no kids.
No kids are coming to the wedding.
No kids at all.
No.
We encourage people to go out to bring their kids.
You have kids.
They won't be at the wedding.
Your kids will not be at the wedding.
kids will not be at your wedding if you decide to have one.
Your wedding or your reception.
The kids are not going to be at the reception.
Oh, they'll be at the wedding.
I was about to say.
They'll be at the wedding because, you know, they got to walk around.
I bet you them kids are at their wedding.
I do not believe.
Why don't I believe that?
And then you're going to go home to the kids?
Yeah, I said.
Like with a nanny?
I promise y'all.
We've had this to stop.
I promise you.
I believe ICE.
So you've already had to talk?
Yeah.
Let's go freeze.
So Malcolm's going to be only one there.
No, he's not.
No, he can't come.
Oh, kids.
It wasn't right now.
He got his own list.
I'm just showing up with it.
He got a security.
He got his picture.
You see that one?
No.
How'd that talk come up?
Oh, man.
Nick, a hair special.
No, because I didn't hear you say that you.
Once you said you had already had it, that's mad, mature.
You had it.
We've had all the talks.
But how'd that even come up?
We've had all the talks.
Bumped up.
You hear him?
Nah, buddy.
How'd that even?
This thing is still for what you all.
You disgusted.
You know, no, no, no, no.
Because you have to know how she wants her engagement,
how she wants her proposal.
You have to know these things.
The wedding is for her.
That's right.
So you have to know all the things that she wants.
Well, it's for y'all, but.
No, it's for her.
I just show up.
I pay for them.
Kind of, but.
Yeah, kind of, but.
But it's for you, too.
Yeah, Lex is coming to that.
What you're going to do?
I dare you put Lex out your wedding.
You're going to put Lex out.
People would be mad.
Some people will really bring kids when you ask
Not to.
Okay.
You're going to turn them around?
It's going to be joints there.
That's going to let me know if I want the kids there.
It's going to be joints there.
Yes, it'll be joints there, sir.
Leave Malcolm home.
Leave Malcolm in the house.
It's time to hit that Tooso Loca.
After that ice wedding, boy.
Yeah.
We're in that Tooso Locos.
You come in this shit deep freeze.
Tooso Loco.
It's like stupid, yo.
Your Ars are going to do the toast at freeze wedding.
Oh, for sure.
I got this exclusive verse that I wrote.
I said, hey, yo.
Oh, shit, man.
Oh, man.
All right.
On to more, speaking of weddings, speaking of weddings, speaking of weddings,
on to more social injustice.
Yes.
There was a lady in Florida who booked an event space to get married.
Okay.
Congrats.
She paid $7,600.
She paid a deposit, paid her money, had the wedding date.
Unfortunately, her groomed.
Passed away.
Oh, man.
Had a heart attack.
42 years old, may rest in peace.
Super young, super young.
Again, get all that shit checked out.
Health is wealth.
Check on it.
It is important.
When the lady called the event space
to try and get a refund on her money,
the event space told her no.
We are not refunding this money.
And why don't you throw a memorial?
Oh, shit.
No, they say that.
I mean, you got the space already?
Let it go to waste.
That's cruel.
Maybe here's one the room would be a little more divided on.
Let's see how we all feel.
I mean, this is why you need, this is why people need insurance, right?
If you don't have insurance, I mean, these companies in the contract that you sign,
they tell you that in case of any event, anything covered, we're not responsible for, you know,
they sign that.
Giving you your refund.
You sign that.
Because now, uh-oh.
More issue?
It's unfortunate.
He got.
He got missed the is.
He put the deep breath before.
Nah, it's unfortunate that homeboy passed away.
You do this like, you know them.
This is mad.
This is mad.
You're in a business?
I think I know where you're going.
It's unfortunate that home boy passed away, but we could have had mad other people want to book
that date and we gave that date away exclusively to you.
We might can't never recoup that bread.
So from- On top of that, they start to pay for flowers.
From a business perspective, we might have already allocated certain resources for that
particular date.
Do we know how close the wedding was to the untimely passing?
May.
It's going to be in May this year.
But when he passed?
A couple of days last week.
Oh, okay.
So six months out, basically.
I think that the venue could be, listen, we're going to try to rent this out.
But the event that we don't rent this out, the deposit, unfortunately, we have to.
That's what they should do.
That's what I think of good.
I think whatever they spent on the third party vendors.
A lot of words.
Y'all on the events, it's a lot of words for what it sounds like, I can be.
wrong is that y'all are on the side of the
event space. No. No, I'm just trying
to find a happy medium. So, being
at the event is five months away,
I think the particular venue
might be able to find somebody else for that date.
Now, if it was a month from now, and again, we've
already allocated all our shit, yo, we both
running the business. And let's be
clear, my fuckers lie nowadays and be like,
yo, this happened, that happened. We've all
been like, yo, my grandma's...
You can prove my... You can provide a death. You can prove my
dead. I know. You could provide a what?
definitely.
You're not good with these things
are.
Stop.
It's in the tech age,
nigger,
a whole pamphlet fly and all that shit
for $7,600.
And for $7,600,
I bring you to the funeral home
and show them to you.
But look, here he is.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm on the side
of just doing good business
and I think that
there's a way to conduct.
What if the event space
ain't that popular?
And y'all said,
I got five months I can book it,
but what if ain't nobody booked
in a minute anyway?
I think human decency
has to play in here a little bit.
But I also understand the business side.
So to me, to your happy medium point,
if as a business,
it's very rare if you rent out the wedding space
that the groom's going to die.
So I don't think it's crazy to have a policy that
if the groom dies or the bride dies,
you get your money back.
I think that's a good, humane policy to have.
It's not going to hurt your business that often.
If the person dies.
I do think, though, that any cost
that gets spent out, you can deduct from that.
So you shouldn't be able to profit off the day.
stuff. But yeah, if I already spent money for a cater, because the problem is wedding venues do
different things. Some are just the hall. Sometimes they're like the contractor and they take care
of other things. So I may have already spent money on food or flowers or some other thing. I shouldn't
lose money because your groom died. But I shouldn't make money off of it. Let me ask you a question.
Every other vendor returned the money with the exception of the event space. Right. And that's what I'm
saying. But I don't know if. Oh, so that kind of. The event space is unique.
because all the other vendors
like if you're doing flowers,
they don't start the flowers
for a wedding in May
in January.
Right, right.
If you're starting to cook the food,
we don't cook the food
in January for a wedding in May
so the photographer
all those other vendors
they might not be time
sensitive.
The space might have to turn down
17 other motherfuckers
that wanted to rent the space.
Well, if that's the case
and I think that you could find
someone else to take that.
And I said that.
Unless you do weddings
and nobody's booking a wedding
three months out.
If you have a thriving
event space business,
it would behoove you
to give me my little bit of monies I'm asking
for it back because it's not going to
be no event space.
It's going to be a visit in your space.
That's it.
That's it.
This would be the last event thrown.
Well, the owner put
$500 in her go fund me.
The owner did that.
You know, on behalf of his business,
you did that, you know.
That was kind of him.
Out of his business.
Out of the 76.
Then he don't got to spend the money on.
The guy passed away in November.
Thank you, Shadda, for correcting me.
November, the guy passed.
So you got six-month leave.
That's almost antagonizing when you do that now.
Yeah, don't tell me.
I'm not going to, yeah.
Yeah, don't do that.
Now, let me just ask you all one question.
If the event space offered some level of an insurance and you didn't take it,
which a lot of places do.
Hey, you want to take this additional insurance.
But, again, people want to save money.
So we're going to offer you this additional insurance.
You choose.
not to take it. You click off, you know, I deny, I don't want this. And this happens.
Yeah, you always tell when a nigga worked at an insurance company, right?
Damn, skipping.
Right? Can't you always tell when the nigga put his, I used to work in insurance company
insurance on? All that shit, though. You have a fucking tickets. You go about, you buy something
off ticket master. There's that box at the bottom that say, do you want to purchase insurance
for these tickets? You buy flight tickets. Same thing. It's true. So now I'm asking y'all,
do y'all, if that were an option and that person said no, do we still feel the same way?
Or some morally shit?
I feel the same way.
I think it's good.
I think it's bad business to profit off somebody's death.
I think, again, if I took a loss,
I should be able to reimburse myself to the extent of my loss.
But I'm not going to sit there and just keep your 7,600 all of it,
just because you didn't check a box when your husband died,
and I'm in the wedding business.
I also think just as a, what do you call it,
like a branding or reputational thing is bad.
It is.
You don't want to be known as the people who didn't give a refund back when they
had a heart attack.
You look crazy.
It's not worth it.
That's $7,600.
Yeah.
It's funny.
business, but it's sticky.
I think just the time plays a major factor for me.
So if my shit was booming, I know I could re-rent the space for that particular weekend.
I'll give them their money back.
But if it was a shorter time, I would have some reservations.
I might give them half day money back.
Word.
And the problem with the end, because my bad, to your point, you are essentially losing at that point.
Yeah.
If I turned down other people, I lost money.
Yeah, that's a.
So that is a thing.
And I think opportunity cost is a real thing.
But somebody just died, you got to eat that.
But if I paid the vendor for you,
if I paid a vendor for you, I'm not eating that.
Humanity matters.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you got it.
And it's just good business.
I think the problem with the internet is
you don't get encouraged to think about the business side of it.
And as a business owner, I do understand that.
We just make the wedding venue the monster.
Like, look at these fucked up people
that wouldn't get this lady your money back.
And most of people who are co-signing that
have never had to run a business or put any money out for anything.
In their lives.
Yeah.
Yeah, rest and peace, home boy, that's awesome.
Absolutely horrible.
And my prayers are with the...
The widow.
Yeah.
For sure.
Yeah, that's horrible.
Who wants to go through that?
When Big Freeze booked a date, he ain't asked for no refund.
Big Freeze's going to get the insurance.
I'm letting you know that.
When Big Freeze say this is the date and he go get the event space and hit Arsenal,
that's going to freeze.
That's the date that it's happening.
When Big Joe's getting this event space?
Reverse, reverse.
Keep Big freezing, Big freezing.
When Big Joe getting an event.
When Big Green get that space?
Yeah.
That's when it's happening.
Look at my son.
What's the big Joe getting an event space?
I don't think I'm doing it in event space.
What are you doing that?
Where are you doing anything?
We're maddened a lot of questions.
We'll just answer the win part then.
I don't want us to get all confused.
My lady is sitting right there.
The audience, if you wonder why I'm not answering,
my lady is sitting right behind me.
I want that to be the most special day in her entire life.
I don't want it to just be blown on some podcasts.
Exactly, nigga.
I don't want that.
On some podcast.
For a guy with bad memories.
I don't want that to just be fucking.
That was well done.
That was well done.
That's all he could do.
That was well done.
That's the best move you can make.
That shit was rare.
Audience, my lady is sitting behind me.
That should be one of the best days of her life, man.
I agree.
I'm not making content.
So you should be more inclined to say when that day is going to come true.
You're going to be more inclined to let us know if you,
now or not, the streets keep saying things.
Oh, the streets?
No, the streets.
The streets are saying things.
That not in my top 15.
Oh, shit.
There you go.
So what that mean?
Don't believe the streets when it come to you?
I wouldn't.
I do.
You would, messy.
Marvel.
So you're saying you're not married yet.
No, I'm not married.
There you heard it.
If I was married, I wouldn't say I was married.
Huh?
When he's Jack?
Hey, remember where you heard it first?
If I was you, I wouldn't.
When what?
Tell these niggas and he got married.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
It should marry as hell.
He's married.
If I was married, he would have was with him.
No, you wouldn't.
No, you wouldn't.
And I don't want to send to you.
I'm on that side.
You're married now.
Damn sure would invite us.
We wouldn't know.
If I was married, you wouldn't know I was married?
No.
How would we know?
How would we know?
He'll tell y'all, nigga.
He ain't hot.
You know, you can share your hands.
I got a real question for you.
That ass on this point.
So when you get married, you're going to come here and say,
guys like I want to share something with y'all got married he would have to we're going to see the bride
you're going to see the bride you're going to say that you're wearing right i'd be like yo i got
married yeah like yo we're like what y'all doing this weekend um I'm shit I'm doing some
walking down this hour roll oh yeah mom I'm gonna get married Saturday
yeah that's it though on Friday at seven probably a wet the ring of the chain
and you'd wear the ring of course are you doing traditional tucks you and ice I'm asking you
Are y'all doing traditional tux?
Or you're putting some rindstones on your shit.
Some icy looking shit.
Some snowflakes.
You're saying it.
I know, I know.
I know what you said.
There's flying tuxes.
If I got married, it'd probably be a destination way.
So shorts.
Short tux suits.
Wherever she's saying.
Portugal.
I don't know.
Nah, it'd be cold over there sometime.
I would just do whatever.
I'll figure it out.
All right.
You got the budget together?
Yeah, he got the budget together.
Yeah, he got to be there with,
you're trying to eliminate some debt, but you still got to put that budget to the side.
He got it.
Look, he's tight, man.
Look, he's tight now.
Look, he's tight now.
I don't even know why you're asking them questions.
He is.
I think that's so corny that you won't just come on and say that you marry.
I swear to God, I think you married.
I promise you, we think that.
I promise you, we think that.
I'm not trying to be funny.
I'm not pying.
We're not pardon.
I think you're married, and I think that we would never know.
We would never know.
I've known you forever.
I've never even met the young lady.
You can say whatever you wish.
I'm not married.
I believe ish that he's not married,
but I also believe that if you were,
you wouldn't tell us.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Both things can be true.
Yeah, I think both are true.
I don't think you're keeping it from us, personally.
You're a slo-y-movuckin.
You're a little bit.
That's nice.
That's nice.
Stop.
I'm his man, so I mean, I'm rolling.
Not here, come on.
Come on.
Come on, he ain't married yet.
Don't be stupid y'all out there.
Oh, hey, we all do that.
You doing traditional tux and shit?
Anyway, it's going to freeze.
No.
I can hear both their brains.
But you know why I don't fuck with this room?
I hear both of them.
Y'all's quiet.
Y'all's quiet says y'all agree with me.
But y'all wait for me to say it.
It's the other awkward time.
And I'm not going to say it.
Say what?
What?
What you was thinking.
I wasn't thinking of it.
Come on.
Free's going to have one.
My mama.
But he's my baby girl.
Halloween,
Halloween, Alois,
Halloween, yeah.
Free's going to have on some turquoise glitter shit.
That's why you said that?
That's why I knew it was wrong.
Oh, no, I thought that's something different.
No, I know what I'm going to keep it a buck.
You know what I thought your brain was saying?
What?
She was going to dress me.
Well, that's part of it.
That's what I thought you was going on.
I thought that was a given already.
Yeah, that wasn't controversial.
You ain't picking your own way now.
with missing piece around?
Because the miss a piece, don't play with him.
All right.
We can move on for this, man.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry that the wedding conversation
gets everybody so uncomfortable around here.
That's why you pivoted.
Yeah, you reversed.
You know why?
It was nice.
I didn't want to call you out
in the middle of the pivot because we was part.
So what?
Kevin McKell-Makee-Lai.
You reversed.
How came Elijah.
Joe-Won.
You reversed.
We were on you, and you reversed.
You put the on a reverse.
Now you want to move on,
there's a lot of questions
we can ask you.
Yeah.
It's a lot of questions
that we want to know
and we want to know,
but we're going to respect it.
I mean, if you ask me in private,
I'll confide in you.
All of y'all are my friends,
I plan on invite you all
when that magic day comes for me.
What's that shit that hell with you
with your memory?
What's cold?
You can't go cold.
Whatever that shit.
I would like that day to come soon.
My parents don't have forever.
I mean, you know.
You know, I get to bring.
You all right.
That's what I hate this doing
all the stops out now.
You're right.
My parents don't have five.
Look at freeze.
All right.
Look at freeze.
You got to learn what we do?
We don't silence you.
Exactly.
You think I silence you?
Yes.
Freeze, you're going to ask her dad when it's time?
No.
You got to do it.
Really, though?
I'm the daddy now.
Freeze.
You're going to ask her dad is?
Of course.
Ooh.
How tall is he?
Five, seven.
Oh, jump him off.
That's a yes.
Hey, hey, hey.
Hey, pops.
You'll show up.
Hey, hey,
hey, little man.
I'm going to cover everything.
Bring some soda if you can.
But you're doing this.
I got your daughter from this point on.
Hey, little man.
Yo.
Why the chick you want to marry their dads be so short?
Like, so what, Nick?
I told her dad, I'll freeze.
And I'm done.
We're leaving a marriage door.
Move on, you.
Move on, please.
I've been one time I ain't gay.
I'll try to you know.
I know.
I promise you just hurry.
Go ahead.
Fuck it.
No, no, no.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm not going to do that.
Other topics.
We got to do it now.
Nope.
We have to.
Come on.
We have to do.
I can't do that.
How tall is your lady's dad?
My lady's dad is deceased.
See, you set us off for that,
yo.
Your off of that shit.
Dirty.
Shout out to my baby.
Y'all are.
I'm a scounder for you.
You're a scounder.
Are you crazy?
What?
You're a scounder, bro.
My girl's dad has deceased.
I believe you.
I believe you.
So did you ask, did you ask your, no.
Okay.
Park, did you?
No.
Ask Bobbs.
Got you.
Mark, the answer is yes.
Okay.
Bobbs and brothers.
To you a question.
Thank you.
I love you.
I love you.
I used to tell me you only want to understand.
I got you, bro.
So,
probably time to move on.
Nike just released a new sneaker.
Did you all see this?
I did not.
Oh, my God, yes.
Is this the one are you getting for Joe?
No.
Hell no.
And Nike's stocking the trash?
It's all for Nike.
Nikes is wearing the Walmart.
aviars.
And I'm shit saying bad.
The $20 avias?
I'm not going to hold you.
I thought about it too.
They're not bad.
I thought about it.
We could do that.
After 45, you could do it.
Of course.
You could do it before 45, I'll be honest.
$20 aviars.
Do you remember aviars, Mark?
Yeah.
So Walmart has a peer aviars that.
They're not bad.
They resemble like all of the A6s and soccer needs that been out.
The shit's not bad.
And the kids is rocking them now.
But anyway.
I love when they rock styles.
It don't cost a lot.
So Nike, who knows what Niki is doing?
I didn't see any Nike sneaksie.
So LeBron has a new sneaker out.
What is it called?
I can find a name, but go ahead.
I'll find a name.
But they have a new sneaker out.
The color is turquoise.
The flop sevens?
It's in honor of Martin Luther King Day, they made a sneaker that is the color turquoise.
It's the honor of the king.
It's called the Honor the King.
And basically, it's the color of the sign of the Lorraine Motel.
Huh?
Which is the hotel where Martin Luther King was assassinated.
No, he's dead serious.
So they, yeah.
So Honor the King.
So the idea was they wanted to commemorate Dr. King in a special way.
So they made a sneaker that was the color of the hotel where he was killed.
This is disgusting.
And, you know, LeBron's on it.
His team, I don't know if his team was involved in the design of it, but they obviously supported it and advanced it.
This is causing some outrage on the internet.
I've seen some people say they're doing their best to honor Dr. King and they're trying to be creative.
I heard other people say, which is my position, this is fucked up and inconsiderate.
and it's the wrong way to honor Dr. King
even if you have good intentions.
Did they include that in the marketing?
Like this is why we picked this color?
Yeah.
The color is literally, I mean, if you look at the Lorain Motte.
It literally says the pair resembles Martin Luther King Jr.
And draws inspiration from the historic Lorraine Motel,
the site of the important civil rights activist assassination.
The location is now home to the National Civil Rights Museum.
But yeah, they let it be known in the presser.
This is horrible.
This is part of what I think about
Why Nike is just kind of
Fast-tracking themselves to a level of obsolete
That I've never seen in my lifetime
I never thought of what happened
And losing the fat of course growing up right
And how good you
But a big part of that
Is what they do for themselves
Branding-wise outside of the star athlete
I agree with you
1,000%.
Like they don't do themselves any faith
Like the Nike commercials are great
With all the athletes and the Olympics
And those shit's great
And their brand deals
When they are paired with
LeBron or Jordan
Anything outside of that large sports personality
It's like really soulless
Like bland
Like
No frills almost level it's becoming
Because it'd be looking like
Like they'd be on the right side of a lot of shit
Like when something go on
They jump on with, I remember, you know, the Asia Wilson thing.
You know, they jumped on right away.
It always looks like Nike make the right decision on some, with their athletes, though.
With their athletes.
I think that's falling.
Same.
If you really want to be honest.
That's from a while ago.
Nike has not popped.
It hasn't been a Nike that had us like, oh, shit, in a very, very long time.
That's why they keep recreating Jordans and Air Maxes and Air Force.
ones. They just basically keep running to the well, reproducing the same shit.
Yeah, they compound the same mistake. Their treatment of Kyrie.
Yeah, dog, do you know Phil Knight is one of the biggest Republican donors or all that shit?
Like, even on the political side, they might not be as vocal, but they have not been the most
us friendly. They haven't been on the right side of culture in recent years.
And we can make some money off you, niggas, we with it, but I don't think they are
parties to the people. See, I don't even think it's about that. Because I think, I
I think there's the tone deafness to this.
Because Republicans love him to Martin Luther King.
Like, everybody loves Martin Luther King.
Like, nobody doesn't fuck with him.
So I think Republicans would be embarrassed to have a sneaker that makes fun or mocks or disrespects Dr. King's legacy.
I think they just were tone deaf.
I don't think they thought about it.
I don't think they mocked him.
But there's another piece to this.
Unlike a lot of companies where there's not diversity in the boardroom, there's a lot of diversity in Nike design.
There's a lot of diversity in the people who made this decision.
These are probably black people who had a big voice in this.
I think they just got this shit wrong.
I think those, too.
I think because even now, the spot is a civil rights museum now.
So in their minds, it's, even though it's known for this,
it's still something positive.
I was positive today.
That's what I'm saying.
So, yeah, let's honor that.
I think they're proud of it.
They put a press release out.
Like, look at this shit.
They wrote it out bad.
If that's the case, they've rolled that out horribly.
I think of all the things you can celebrate Martin of the King for
or all the moments you could commemorate of him,
pick one where he got out, I have a dream speech.
pick one where he let a bus boycott.
Don't pick the moment where his assassins
was. It's just weird.
And for someone who died, remember,
he's in Memphis
fighting for sanitation workers,
fighting for workers' rights.
I mean, it's a weird thing to make money
off of the death of a moment like that.
To me, it's just a very weird,
very, very weird thing.
Listen, I always challenged
white people in these positions of power
or two, just running by black.
Yeah.
And that's what I said.
I think the blacks decided this.
Yeah, but I would need confirmation on that before I spoke to it.
One and two, oftentimes black people are in these situations without a voice.
Which black?
And number three, which black people?
And, dog, Brown is a lot of black people that are disconnected from black culture, dog.
It is.
That don't necessarily make you home team.
And LeBron is a black.
LeBron is a brand conscious black.
So you think that he's not going to sit there and have a team of people?
Somebody, some blacks was okay with this.
And thought this was the move.
I don't think this is as tone deaf as y'all try to paint it out to be.
The LeBron part of it is interesting.
And I don't blame LeBron for the design or the idea.
I'm sure somebody on his team said, this is great, to your point.
But like you said, for somebody who wants to be an international superstar and beloved by everybody, this is a bizarre move.
If I'm him, I'm pissed at somebody on my team who said, this is the one.
If I'm LeBron, I would be pissed.
One, two, I'm not going to fall for the brand pitch of LeBron is involved in every decision made.
Like, I don't know that.
I'm not even saying that he's involved in it.
But the fact that he puts these sneakers on and they say, yo, this is what we're calling them the king.
Yeah, this is your sneaker.
This is the honor of the king.
The brawn has also been seen in public reading the first page of 11 different books.
I understand.
So.
That's different from sell the product.
It's odd.
She said, like if you started a sneaker deal and they said, do you hear the air autobines?
Right. We're going to show you the room where Malcolm X was killed in an automobile
bomb. Instinctively, you would say something.
That would be a no.
Yeah, it would be a no.
Or if they signed you, a sign you, gave you a sneaker and said this is the air autobons.
Don't even say about where he was killed to nothing.
We're doing this to honor Malcolm X.
You would ask, you would look at to just get some more information on that before you just
threw a sneaker on your foot.
LeBron's Carfax in terms of using his voice in pro-black situations, he has enough of it for me.
So I just can't rush to put this on him or anybody that he has in place.
I'm going to assume that if he heard it or if he saw it and saw the correlation that was going on, that he would stop it.
I'm just assuming that.
I don't know.
I would think so.
That's fair.
Yeah.
Bad move.
I was a little irritated at some NBA players were speaking out against those of us who voiced our dismay.
I saw Nick Young, Swaggy P, say, shut the F up.
to Dave Dennis Jr. who said, this is wrong, this is wrong.
He just said, shut the F up.
Dave Dennis Jr. is the son of Dave Dennis, Sr.,
who was the organizer of Corps,
one of the freedom writers, basically,
somebody who damn near died for civil rights,
marched through the South and organized.
So there's a tone.
I think part of it is just us not having a sense of history
because to even tell people to be quiet
who have every right to be speaking.
Exactly.
Says a lot about the disconnect.
I don't think they were like, forget Dr. King.
I just think we need to know more about our history.
I agree that.
Yeah, I agree.
I agree.
You want to talk about Mr. Tendonism?
Who now?
That's the do with the ribs, right?
Mr. Tendanism is the older black gentleman who is online and has been viral recently for showcasing the meat falling off the bone.
Oh, okay.
On IG and knowledge of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tenderism.
Thought you renamed yourself.
Oh, shit.
That was funny.
You could be Mr. Gitch.
No, no, no, that was funny.
You could be Mr. Hitch.
That was a good one.
You got that.
He got that.
He got a good one.
He got a good shot.
Don't spit the next three out.
No, you got to acknowledge a great shot when it's there.
I thought you renamed yourself.
I don't want no problems.
Tendor.
You are Mr. Tender.
You good, though.
No, don't.
No, I'm on your ass.
No, that's not.
That was too good of a joke to myself.
That was too good of a joke.
I want to keep my joke to myself, bro.
You never heard of Mr. Tenderism?
Mr. Tenderism, that is his name.
He's coined this phrase.
He's all over the place.
The meat does look good.
It does pause.
It does fall off the bone.
This story began getting traction.
Well, it's all over the place now.
But Keith Lee.
Jordan first.
Jordan went over there first.
Michael Jordan.
No, Jordan.
Cool.
No, I'm asking.
No, I'm asking.
Michael
He just threw me off
Michael Jordan
Oh shit
Jordan
Jordan the food
Taster dude
that is on line
I don't know
The younger dude
He's got skits
With Method man
And Michael D.
Jordan
And just anybody
But he went over there
First Taste the food
Keith Lee then went over there
Tased the food
That's when it gained trash
And Keith Lee was trying to leave a tip
For the older black man
$4,000 or $5,000
I thought it was five
But four or five thousand dollars, he tried to leave a tip.
He went to the front.
They told him that the dude was unavailable.
He was doing a podcast.
You can't leave the tip for him.
Keith Lee then offered to leave the tip for them to spread it throughout the employers.
Homeboy said no.
Homeboy is a white dude, by the way.
Okay.
Tender on it.
No, no, no.
Tenderism is an older black man.
Okay.
But the business owner is a white man.
Got it.
Is a white man.
So let's see, let's see, let's see.
So then they started doing all these fucking get out type videos
saying that the white dude was holding Mr. Tenderism hostage
and that he wouldn't let him be seen.
Wouldn't let him leave.
Then they said that the white man was jealous
of all the attention that Mr. Tenderism was getting.
And now the latest is that the white man has trademarked Tenderism.
Oh, shit.
Because the white man and Mr. Tenderism did a,
after Keith Lee,
did that, they spoke out. And, you know, Mr. Tenorism was defending the owner, saying that,
you know, we have an understanding, like, the business is good. We said, because a lot of people
were upset. They thought that Mr. Tenorism owned or the business belonged to him. Right. So now
when they found out that the white man is the owner, and when you're just a face. It presents
like a black owned business. Like when you see, when you see the older gentleman and you see
the meat and it's comfort food, you assume that it's a black own business. Yeah.
Yeah. Like a soul food spot that's owned and you're going to patronize it because the older black gentleman.
Right. That's how they do.
He's added to the business has been huge and it's very visible to a lot of people.
But then at the end of the day, it shortchanges so many other people who built this business, including this guy, who when I met him, had absolutely zero.
Wait, what?
Wow. That's not the owner, talk.
That is the owner. He's in the video with the.
Mr. Tenderism.
The business has been huge
and it's very visible to a lot of people.
This video makes it worse.
But then at the end of the day,
it shortchanges so many other people
who built this business,
including this guy,
who when I met him,
had absolutely zero.
Okay, so now why this is a big deal
is because pre-pandemic,
this smokehouse was a coffee shop.
Okay.
A struggling coffee shop.
And then the older gentleman
went near one day as a customer
and then conversations
were had and then it was his idea
for them to start selling
smokehouse shit
ribs so then they
started selling and this is now through the pandemic
coffee and
ribs and shit
the ribs took off
right now it's not a coffee shop
of course anymore
it's solely
it's solely
ribs smokehouse
that's it being promoted
by this
this elder black gentleman
who people don't feel like
is being fairly compensated
because he is the one
that got this restaurant
on and pop and he's the one
that has lines around the block
this restaurant has lines around the block man
we talked about this because we were like
if we go out there we got to go check him out
because the shit looked good
on the videos of shit
I just think I just thought it was important
conversation to have
when it comes to
the protection of IP
yeah yeah that's what it sounds like
but if you don't know what IP
is and you're older gentleman, you don't even know
it need to be protected. It ain't even older gentleman.
You just don't know what IP is and you come to
somebody with an idea and they are, they have
a business mind. It happens
every day. Every day. And that person
ends up getting taken advantage of, unfortunately. Is it any different than the
label putting up the money and now they're on your masters?
The same way Homeboy just clearly said, this gentleman
didn't have any money. I bought something to the table.
And so now he didn't have a pot to pee in. He's eating now.
The gentleman might be getting compensated
short term, but maybe not long term.
I don't see it as any different.
I mean, some people are fine with just being in a position.
That's true.
Especially if you ain't having it.
Yeah, I ain't used to much.
I'm not, you know.
Some people are just comfortable being in that position.
You know, let him do all the hard work.
I'm not saying that the white man is doing all the hard work,
but I can do the cook that I'm comfortable.
This is what I do.
Let him do all the business and whatever he gives me, I'm fine.
But some people are comfortable in that position.
I'm just happy people are marveling at my food.
A lot of people don't want to identify that.
A lot of these TikTok and Instagram lawyers,
and they want to get involved a lot,
but comfortability is something that we have to identify.
Yeah, OG might be cool.
Like, OG is on all of recent Viz looking cool and happy.
He's saying, you, my man, I love you.
We done did this together.
We came a long way.
That's what OG is saying.
But that's what happens is somebody getting your ear
and start telling you what you should be getting
and what you should own and what you should do.
And then you're sitting there like, oh, word, I'm getting played.
I'm getting robbed or that seed get planted.
And then next thing you know, they don't divide it y'all.
Now you sit there and the white man robbed you.
We see this shit.
The white man might have to rob you.
But the white man did rob him.
How do you rob them?
You may not know about it.
No.
Yo, let's say that I don't want to call it a robbery because it could be mutually agreed upon.
And that's what I was going on.
But.
When you say robbery, though, do you mean like he cheated him?
Like it's like he broke the rules or you just said he took advantage of him?
I'm saying.
And again, I agree with Flip that OG could be the happy.
in the world. Now I'm just speaking about
me in that position. Yeah.
If I change your entire business
there's a different talk that needs
to be at. Yeah, but if you... If your
business changes from a coffee shop
to a smoke shop, I mean a smokehouse,
yeah. Yeah, no, that's
a whole new conversation
before we get to the trademark conversation.
But the conversation made it by that, to
flip's point. And on top
of that, when you trademark something, you can
put, he could put his name down. Well, people have their
suspicions because you wouldn't even let Keith Lee give
that money. You wouldn't
walk to the back, say, hey,
Keith Lee is here. World famous Keith Lee
wants to give you four or five grand.
He wouldn't let him. So that's why
suspicions are.
Conversation probably don't even get had.
Had he taken the tip?
Had he taken the tip and divvied it up
amongst all of the workers, then it would have
been no reason for suspicion.
What if he were? Oh, yeah, that part.
Divying it up. Yeah. Like, I'm like, what if he
really wasn't there? Like, you can't give this
nigga a tip. He's not here. We got something we
doing here that's some social media. You can't tip a nigga when they ain't there.
Yeah, you can. And what if you put your white ass face there as the brand person for the
smokehouse in Los Angeles? Right. Nobody wants that. Yeah, that may work in Texas.
Mm-hmm. I agree. I mean... I think it's bullshit.
It's a yes. If you sign into a contractual agreement with somebody and that person is not knowledgeable,
legal and moral are two totally different things.
That's what I was asking the truth.
So you could be on the legal side of things
if you sign a contract and says,
yo, your name is Parks.
We're going to make some shit
and I'm giving Parks fucking a dollar
off of every thousand dollars.
Parks might be happy because he didn't have a dollar before.
That still don't make the shit morally right.
Like once we blow up,
I think you need to come back to the table
and Parks need to start getting
50 cent of every dollar or 30 cent of every dollar.
Whatever the case may be,
I just think that you should start
treating people in a different way.
stand by that all the time. Y'all say I'm crazy.
When I say that I'm not saying you crazy.
I just say that it's not
typically applies in today's business world.
And it never has been. I mean, I'm thinking about John Young. I'm thinking about
who invented the Buffalo Wing and Mombos sauce and all that stuff.
And suddenly the whole country talks about the Buffalo Wing and
where it originates from, but they don't attribute it to him.
And he never got the money or the trademark or any
the other things that come with it. There's like a long history of black people
creating shit.
Absolutely.
And music and art and food everywhere.
Everywhere.
All of you.
Everywhere.
Anything.
Technology.
All of that shit.
So I'm really sympathetic to that, you know.
But that's why we have to also do more education right now for people so that this doesn't keep happening.
Because it's disgusting that it's still happening.
You got to be careful.
You got to creators out there.
You have to be careful sharing ideas with people that can execute them.
And sometimes, I don't even like saying creators because that can box people into one image of what a creator is.
And sometimes the guy that comes up with a fucking amazing remembrance.
recipe as a creator, but they might not look at it that way because we look at creators
as people who turn on the phone and talk about bullshit.
Or somebody that got that's nice content or something that makes videos or something that makes
songs.
And this may, I might go left with this, but even if you say you put it together in an outfit
and you create an outfit and then somebody that takes the picture of you, they become
the owner of that picture.
If you know what I'm saying, Paul, right?
Yeah.
Even though you put it together, you created it, it belongs to them.
So I guess the laws and the rules is a little bit different.
I don't know.
Something to be a good point.
of moving forward.
Also,
also, I mean,
there's paperwork
that you can establish
before you get
into the act
of sharing ideas.
Yeah, we know that.
We know that.
The world don't typically...
And I didn't always know it.
Yeah, now what I'm saying?
The world don't typically know that.
Like, if you sitting in a room
and somebody come taste your oatmeal
and you're like,
yo, this the best oatmeal I ever had,
man, why are you in this little thing?
We could blow and you just think that
you're the world going now
get to taste my oatmeal.
If I'm in that situation,
I'm suing the white man.
and I'm a co-founder of this business.
I'm not an employee.
I agree with you,
a thousand percent.
Because he can, like I said,
the white man can put his name on a trademark.
When he went to trademark it,
he could put his name on me.
He can't put his name on me.
He got the recipe and all that shit
just in case that old man passes away.
This smoke shop not going to stop.
I know how to make...
I was about to say,
the rest of the employees here
know how to make these...
You're about saying some black racer shit?
Yeah.
The rest of these employees here
know how to make these wings, bro.
These ribs,
everybody in here know how to make these wings.
ribs.
Dead ass.
And Corey think that the whole
tenderness thing is a farce in that they back
there actually cutting the meat off the bone
and then letting it fall off.
There was some cuts in the meat.
I did hear that
that there was some cuts
or something in the meat
so that when they do the thing with the bone?
I mean, white business,
to a black and white business?
Look what you're doing to a black and white business.
Listen, man, we are in the time of the...
Yeah, we in the social media world,
bro.
It's not rocket science to make meat
that can fall off the bone, Paul.
It's not.
Let's go, Paul.
Let's tell them.
Like, it's not.
It's not a rare thing that someone would have to create some of fucking conspiracy theory about fucking good race.
I'm putting my thumb on the scale of it.
My business model is the meat fall off the bone.
Every piece of meat.
All my meat dropping.
But it will.
All of it.
This is a repeatable thing.
This is not like a miraculous thing.
It looks great.
I'm not taking no chance.
I'm in the kitchen back just in case.
Just in case.
Somebody go and do the shit and it don't fall.
Hey, right.
Now my business is done.
because one fucking content creator came in here and shot a video
and the meat ain't fall off the ball.
You know everybody coming here waiting for your meet for your meat.
Of course.
They went for you to fail.
Yeah.
They want to be the one that catch you.
Can I ask y'all a really, really, really, really.
I'm done with Mr. Tenderism.
He's got all my love.
Can I ask you all the really stupid question?
Please.
Of course.
My favorite was.
This one is real dumb.
So such things stupid questions, Judge.
That's a lot.
I always hate it when people said that.
Yeah, okay.
Fucking lie.
My students be asking some dumb-ass questions.
All the kids have some dumb-ass questions.
Distinguished panel.
Please tell me
What does the song
YMCA
Have to do with the YMCA?
What's the chorus?
I repeat
What does the song YMCA
Are we going to do a lyrical breakdown now?
I have it queued up already.
Let's get out.
Because now before you're rushed to your gadgets
And your phones.
I just wanted to get the words right.
Well, in case it's clear.
Please don't feel for the problem again.
Please, man.
Come on, bro.
I'm asking him.
Don't fall for the shit they'd be saying.
I don't know.
Dedicated to gaming.
It is.
Well, no, that's...
The owner that wrote the song said it's not dedicated to anything...
It just so happens.
He's lying.
He wrote the song.
He said it's dedicated to that.
YMCA...
YMCA...
A program...
The song is about young boys coming out the closet.
That was pretty obvious.
Hold on.
I need the lyrics for this show.
Press play.
All right.
I can...
I can...
I think that everybody knew this.
No, I can read what it says.
I think that the connotation or the reason why it's adopted by the gay cultures
because I think at that time, people were going to the YMCA to do.
Yeah.
It says, uh, y'all are crazy.
Wait.
Wait, no, don't get them off the hook.
That's what they kind of says.
He might not be wrong.
He kind of says that.
What?
It says, uh, the village people's YMCA is a layered on the surface.
song. It's a joyful celebration
of the Young Men's Christian Association
as a place for fun, sports,
clean mills, and support for young men in the
city. Gay. Wait,
how well, YMCA's fan for.
Yeah, you didn't know that.
What you thought it was?
Y'all what I mean? Come on.
The Young Men's Christian
Association.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm just, I'm reading lyrics.
It's like the boys' clubs. It's all
double entendre. Yeah. Dog, this
This song is about young men feeling free enough to be themselves and be gay.
I think it's just a commercial for YMCA, but it just happens to YMCA.
There's some gay shit going on.
See, I thought that was unfair to put that on the YMCA.
You can't make the coming out song just be, hey, we're fucking down here.
Young man, all right.
You don't have to be.
unhappy you can be gay.
And you knew.
You knew in town.
You don't even know
this way it's happening at.
Yo.
Yo.
Victor Willis denies it was written as long.
We want to listen to the song.
He said it.
But he also said it was gay.
Not putting gay shit on people, y'all.
The man that wrote the song
said it's not about that.
But flip, he said he also
acknowledged that the song had double entendre.
He acknowledged that there was a...
I'm reading it now.
I mean, I've read a decent amount about this.
He said both. He said it wasn't a gay anthem,
but he acknowledged the song had double meanings.
Was Victor Gay?
Which is a that I don't know.
Have a good time at the young men's Christian Association.
Horses.
Do the dance.
Do the dance.
Now we'll hit that next course.
You guys are ignorant, yo.
Yeah.
Let's hear a verse two.
Let's hear verse two.
Come on.
Hey, we're saying that shit.
This is about coming out.
I don't know what y'all.
I just don't know why they chose the YMCA.
I told you.
That's what was happening at.
But you can't say that.
Why?
I think that's what was happening.
I mean, I know in some cities, the Wyoming states
where you play ball and lift weights and shit,
like in Philly, but in some cities,
Wyoming states literally just where people sleep.
And a lot of men, especially men who were like doing,
who were like in the streets would go there.
And people who did sex work would go there.
Like in places like Boston and New York,
like it was real popular for people to go there to hook up too.
So it made sense.
Also, let's not act like the village people had a one-off.
All this, if y'all list of Village People album,
No. Mark, no, Mark.
I didn't know they had an album.
I didn't know in a real one.
I didn't know in a real one.
I'm sure you've heard macho man before.
I thought this was like,
macho man.
Play that.
That's the same people?
Yes.
They also have a song called Sada v.
Gimorra.
They also have a song saying,
Hot Cop.
They have a lot of gay songs.
How do you know that?
You know how?
You've done a lot of village people research.
That niggins said I don't got the village people 101 was one of the subjects
that the call.
I'm in tears, yo.
I did not know.
Hey, yo.
They got a song called In the Navy.
In the Navy.
What you all?
I heard before.
I'm a cruiser.
So the village people just made hot all the spots that the young gay boys was getting in their bag.
He was very passionate about the wire.
That shit about the wire.
That wire was here.
That wife changed his fucking life.
That shit came from the song.
soul with the macho men
that's crazy
and they say that macho man was like their least gay
song like that wasn't the one they were intended to be a gay anthem
but why I'm saying it's kind of like that's their
in the club you know what I mean
like that was the one it was the club
no
that was to end the club
yeah to this day
action man
to this day
to this day
do you want to spend
a night I'm a cruiser
I have a roommate
I mean they got a I mean
But you know why I gave so much pushback
I am what I am.
You know, people were saying the electric
boogie song was about a vibrator.
And I used to get mad about that online too.
Like, nigga, the nigga that made it.
Because, nigga.
Runny Whaler wrote that song.
He's fucking Rastafarian.
He's not talking about vibrators, nigga.
You think Rastafarians can't talk about vibrators?
He's not talking about it.
He's part of the fucking Bob Marley.
He's not talking about that shit.
And it's an insult for people to do that.
You sing Bob Marley and never pulled a sex toy out?
Did it start playing with Shorty?
Are you?
I'm just saying he's above that?
That's your boy.
Yeah, he's above that.
The 60s sex toys must have been crazy.
That's if you're plugging the wall.
No, but yeah, he's above that, man.
I'm so fucked up off these song titles they got.
I won't take no for an answer.
Just give me what I want.
Whoa.
A lot of song titles can be crazy if you want to, like.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, the name of the group is the village people.
And then the 60s and the city.
Right.
The village people.
Again.
These are subtle clues.
You're kind of tracking a little bit.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
But there's a long history of songs being gay,
and then the writers often did not.
I mean, Little Richard didn't,
Tutti-Fruity was gay song, right?
But, like, at the time, he didn't say it's gay,
but later on, he acknowledged that it was Tudy-Fruity Good Booty,
and it changed.
That's what it was.
That's what it was.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, Tudy-Fruity, good booty.
That was what it was.
Then he had to change a little bit because that was a little too much for the time.
Well, you're saying that it was Tudy-Fruity.
Good-good.
Good booty.
Yes.
To the record, y'all.
Good booty.
That's how that would?
Tootty, fruity.
Yeah.
Good booty.
Make a lot more sense, don't.
He had that nigga screaming.
Boy.
That's when it got real good.
I'm not.
I'm not living.
Oh, my.
This is a girl.
Name.
Nah, it was about that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Ask real little Richard.
He'll tell you.
Yeah.
Well, he's dead.
All right.
Y'all answered my question with that whole young men of Christians Association.
In Jersey City,
There wasn't no Christians around that YMCA.
There was killers in there.
Queens, too.
Yeah.
I thought it was always like young men that carry arms.
And just chilled there for a problem.
I thought it was some hood shit.
That was a Christians hood?
I thought the same shit.
Oh, my God.
They was fucking in the end of the 70s.
All right.
Maybe it's.
Maybe it's.
They still are.
Yeah, maybe it are.
I ain't been a why in a long time.
They still out there.
What are you trying to say?
I wasn't going to do it.
That's all you.
Young man.
I walked around.
That's hilarious.
Bruchet was created in 1844.
Oh, boy.
Yeah, exactly.
What?
Kow was 70s.
So back then it probably was.
They were like hostels.
They were like youth hostels and they just grew up.
Here coming to the most controversial podcaster on earth.
YMCA's were hostels.
Plays it for people to stay.
homeless people, homeless kids and stuff like that.
Runaways.
Is that what hostel means?
Not hostile.
Not L-E-L.
Like hostile.
No, that's the one I'm talking about.
That means that.
Tell me what that word is.
Hostile is like a place when you travel and it's like a room.
You just rent a room.
It's like a expensive hotel.
It's like a really cheap room.
Really cheap hotel.
Some can be really nice.
It's like a $3.
It's like a $3.00 room.
Yeah, that's where I am.
Every time I hear hostel.
That's a hospital.
You know what they're doing.
Because you know what's happening in the hospital.
Globally this night.
I mean, there's lots of.
hostels where you, it's just like a nice
inexper. Like I go to host a hostel like three or four years ago.
Mark.
You know, all right.
Why did you do that?
I was in Palestine.
Oh. Why did you do that?
He got big of Palestine.
God damn.
You can't get you.
Fuck.
Yeah, you're here this nigga.
Yeah, bro.
You were the palace of high.
Oh, my God.
You got it.
You got it.
You got it.
You got it, bro.
Stayed in the hospital of Palestine.
Fuck, man.
Three years ago, I asked Mark, if you plan on going back
over there, you're talking about, yeah.
I'm just watching.
watching the clock. He'd have been everywhere, but.
I'm trying to get over there.
He said he was trying to go. I just ain't got the time
because I got to go for weeks. I got a lot of people to see a lot of stuff
to do. But I'll be in the Middle East next month.
All right, there's that.
I'm glad my stupid question could...
They got you to Saudi? They got you to Saudi?
No, they got me to Qatar.
All right.
Bindoha.
Sauri.
Come on I could go right to that Saudi.
One MLK day, too.
Oh shit.
One MLK day.
And give a speech.
He said that's what?
You go a blackest me, boy.
I ain't going to Saudi, man.
I come back here with one hand.
I mean, how many gigs you got going for Black History Month?
I know that's when you're about to be in your back.
Every day.
Actually, I'm glad you asked that.
Two of a day.
Not that many, so if you want to book me for Black History Month, please,
marklemont Hill.com.
Check me out.
I could use a few more.
But I think I'm in like maybe four or five.
Not that many.
I'm trying to do bigger events, man.
I can't do too much wear and tear on my body.
Sounds like it.
Yeah, I'm already, I'm worn out from yesterday.
my last tacos locos
Tosos locos
My last stupid question for y'all
And then we can move on to something of substance
If you arguing with your girl
And you need something
No this is probably the answer
And you need something from her
Whether it be information or anything else
Do you time out the argument
And pick up the phone and call
or do you thug it out on some G shit?
I read it out.
I'm going to fucking.
I'm going to fucking.
And I can't get the information.
Thank you, I had no choice.
I'm going to try my hardest to thug it out, bro.
Mark,
tugging it out, man.
Mark, thugging it out.
Flip.
Thug it out.
Joe.
Same.
Same.
Now, but sometimes you got to put a pause to it.
Hold on.
I don't care about the pause.
I said, I'm going to try my hardest.
I don't want to do that.
Sometimes you got to put a pause because your wife made no mad shit that you just
don't know. I don't time out the beef.
I only asked because we was laughing about
Kino trying to do the Zep and spilling the shit
on the floor. And I was like, I'd have said something to you, but
we was beef and I was standing in my shit.
She was like, yeah, you could time out the beef.
I would have helped you out with that. I'm like, it's never
no such thing as a timeout with the beef.
You can tell about the beef. Never timing out of the beef.
For you crazy? Nah, someone else could jab me here.
Never time out. Enough for that. Not for that.
That's nothing. You got to be an emergency.
I got to be off the cliff.
You got to be off the cliff.
Yeah. Yeah.
Time up.
Somebody had to die.
Somebody had to die on medical emergency.
And even then, I'm like looking for other options.
You have to be literally the last option.
Yeah, like, fucking.
Then I'm going to do it.
Sorry.
Thousand is worth it.
Sorry.
It might be worth it.
I'll be proud for it.
Because I say, if we could time out the beef,
$1,000 on Shannon.
If we could time out the beef, we ain't beefing.
Oh, that's a good point.
If we could time out, the beef, it ain't a beef.
That's a great point.
The beef can stop.
Hey, I know we disagree on some things, but listen, where did you put the,
No
I think of the hell no
You ain't got access to me
Till we make it up
See my wife times out
Now I'm thinking
When she timed out the beef last week
We know we could tell
But you said she was in the wrong
Oh she was totally wrong
Oh no she timed out
She timed out
She timed out
Oh she tried to time out
And you bitched up in letter
What I'm gonna say
He did
We still beefing
See what I'm right
I'm just in the dominant position then
I feel superior
Yeah
Because she come to me
Like I need help with something
and I help her and then I go back to being mad.
I'm up.
Was that petty?
Yes.
Okay, I'm comfortable with that.
No, it's calculated.
No, you don't speak petty.
I got a petty beef going right now.
It's the pettiest shit in the world.
I don't even care.
Oh, please share.
Please share.
I bust my ass yesterday on the ice.
Walked out the house.
Boom!
I mean, bust my ass.
So I go and I tell her whatever.
We're cool.
You all right?
Yeah, fine.
Like three, four hours go by.
She's going to tap me out of nowhere and say,
Do you think the camera caught it?
Oh shit.
I said, why you think that?
You got mad?
Yeah, I got mad because now she wants to go check the camera, pull a camera up, and it's dying laughing.
So now we're gonna be.
Oh, she found it?
She found it.
Is it possible that she just flirt?
Yo, Mr. Bees.
This is my follow people.
Send that through.
You got mad at that?
Nigna, why are you thinking about that so many hours later?
We cool.
And she's, yo, I just want to ask you.
I'm like, what's up?
You think the camera caught you fall in this morning?
She already had it to what she asked to.
She probably does.
Now I'm more mad.
Did you have a hat on?
He's trying to say, hit his head?
Your shit flew up.
I'm just asking it. I'm trying to get the visual part.
It was a prayer post the little shape up.
It was pre.
I was on my way to barbershop.
Oh, shit.
Oh, you look crazy.
Let me ask you.
If your girl had fell, would you cut the video?
No, I wouldn't have changed.
the video.
I know ice fall,
goofy, too.
I know it's a good.
There wasn't so good.
I'm not going to hold you.
I'm not even going to hold y'all.
It wasn't, this was a very uncool fall, bro.
It was the unexpected.
I ain't even, you know, sometimes you can see some shit slippery.
Like the meet you can do like this.
They go, whoo, boom.
I jumped up, make sure nobody saw me.
You broke the ground?
No, I was on.
Fuck, nigga.
Yeah, it was, it was bad.
be all right.
That's how
that's how niggas
crack their spine
or something.
That's her.
That's your hurt.
I'm sure.
I'm sure.
But, yeah,
I was,
I was high.
Like, yo,
why are you thinking
about that still?
What is that?
Walk right outside the grid.
I mean putting on salt there?
I don't do that.
They do that.
They didn't.
No, no.
They, the,
the way you park at?
Who's day?
Like, the migrants?
Who is day?
What are you talking about?
Mr.
Ice.
Right.
Senor Ice.
Do you all have any thoughts on the people saying that citizens of the U.S.
will need to be able to prove, yeah, be able to prove that they are U.S. citizens?
I hate this country.
It's not funny.
It's not.
I'm not laughing.
No, we have the good part.
You don't want serious or else out.
At some point, that's what they had to do in Germany.
Oh.
You made the Nazi turn.
Like, the nakes going door to door like that.
Like, that shit ain't funny.
Yeah.
I've seen shit with them going door to door in Minneapolis, bro.
That's scary.
But also this is, I mean, and I agree, I mean, the worst case scenario is like a Nazi Germany situation, but also for black people, we've had to show papers for hundreds of years. Like, this ain't even new for us. I'm always fascinated when white people get outraged that they might have to live the way black people did for a long period of time. It's awful. I don't want nobody to do that. I think it's awful, and I hope they can stop it. Because whenever it was, even with voting, even with having to show paperwork to vote, it was the same thing. It was like, if you don't got, if you didn't do anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about. But that's the wrong. But that's the wrong.
wrong mentality because it's a hard road mentality yeah and you keep eroding people's liberties not just
that what what happens when they just pulled a black dude over in canal he was cursing them
niggas the fuck out he like yo i'm not from here suck my dick now you know i'm from here right
i'm from brooklyn i was born in blah blah blah hospital in brooklyn suck my dick he said suck my dick
like oh yeah he's from brooklyn they're like oh yeah he's from brooklyn yo and they walked away
then they got another one in the car with the black dude like fam you could tell from my voice i'm born
even though that's not an indication
but it's like yo dog
it is but it's just like yo fam I was born
and blah blah blah they're starting to be like
oh I think your ID is fake
I think you have fake ID
like what so at that point
nobody is made up yeah so at that
point nobody is safe even if you were
born here if they have the
the privilege to say yo
discretion to say you I think your ID is fake
and you say nobody's safe
the only thing I would add to that because I know what you mean
is that white men are safe the whole point of this is the
White men from everything.
True.
You're right.
I don't see them going to fuck with.
They're not fucking with it.
And no disrespect to nobody.
I don't see them in the Serbian neighborhoods.
I don't see them in the Albanian neighborhoods.
I'm not seeing them in the Russian neighborhoods.
And them niggas smuggle people like crazy.
And I'm not seeing it.
I don't see them niggas in Chinatown and all of these other communities.
They only fucking with the blacks and browns from what I can see.
Yep.
Yeah.
And so don't say it's about American safety and liberty because you're saying that the only unsafe people are the blacks and the browns.
You know what I'm saying?
And that shit is nuts to me.
Facts.
Well said.
Well said.
I agree.
I didn't mean us to take too much of every time.
Yeah.
It was good, though.
But good job.
Good job, you guys.
Well, I've been killing segways today.
So speaking of unhappy turns.
You know, what the fuck, you know?
This thing is stupid.
This thing is bad.
Sometimes you shock yourself, right?
Sometimes.
Look at it.
Nikki Minaj and Don Lemon.
Yep.
We can't leave this show without at least acknowledging what happened.
And by we you mean you.
I can leave here and have the greatest a day.
Or sleep like a baby in.
Oh, my God.
Perfect day.
Oh, my Lord.
Magnesium sleep.
Y'all already are leaving me.
So now the barb's going to be like, they ain't anyone talk about it.
Mark made him talk about it.
I get it.
I get it.
It's on the board.
I ain't write it.
But we'll do it.
I'm going to do it because I think it's worth doing.
Nicky Minaj wrote a tweet about Don Lemon.
the former CNN host,
respected journalist,
revered member of the black community.
She wrote,
Don Cocksucking Lemon is disgusting.
How dare you?
I want that thug in jail.
He would never do that to any other religion.
Lock him up.
What was this in regard to?
And has the image of the Chucky Doll.
This was in response to Don Lemon reporting
on what happened in that church, right?
Yeah, Don Lemon met him with some people.
people who went into the church, who said that the pastor or somebody in the congregation was an ICE member.
So they popped up in a church and they interrupted the service.
And they started calling the person named that got killed in Minneapolis and everything like that.
So that's what happened.
So, you know, you can have a criticism of ICE or of Don Lemon or of either political side.
You can say, hey, the Christian church is being attacked.
Christianity is being attacked in ways that no one else is.
We can agree, disagree, whatever.
I don't have a nickel in that quarter.
I don't have a thought on that particular thing.
You do, but that's fine.
I mean, I do, but I haven't thought about it enough to flesh out my opinion on it.
Because to me, no matter who's right or who's wrong, you can't throw homophobic slurs against people.
And, you know, watching Nikki do that, it feels like an unraveling, again, that I'm worried about.
And I'm curious to know how, again, so many of the Barb's nation who identify as LGBTQ are able to hold steady when you hear stuff like that.
When she was going anti-trans, people say, oh, there are a lot of queer people who don't care about trans folk or who have an issue with trans folk.
But now she's calling a cock sucker for no reason.
And then she kind of doubled down on it and responded to it by saying, I purposely wrote it that way because I knew that would be the only way to get the, the,
suckers to post about it.
They would have all collectively ignored the despicable
behavior displayed by Lemonhead.
I'm glad they're angry. They're about to get
angrier and then the Chucky doll with the middle finger
up. Again, to me,
that's not a good enough
response. You're Nikki Minaj. You can put a spotlight
on any issue you want without revering the homophobia.
And just to use a comparable example, that would be like
somebody saying a white person taking the same issue and calling
down a nigger. And then saying, well, I had to use the N word for people to
pay attention to what was happening in this church. We'd all say that's
okay. So why would it be okay to do that to Don limit? Of course, Don responded in his own way.
He called her a pick-me, said that she's not, does not a bandwidth for this conversation, said that she might
be an illegal citizen, that she's a pick-me for Donald Trump in particular. He gave his own response
and shout out to Don for responding the way he wanted to. I don't know how he should have
responded. I don't have a thought on that, but the whole conversation is disgusting to me.
And I don't want to keep giving this light, but I also feel like ignoring it with someone who
was that big of a platform is also irresponsible. So I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm just,
I'm conflicted about how we even talk about this.
I mean, well, if you're asking me, I'm not.
Like, talking about it, as much as it will come up makes me,
will make me feel like I'm complicit in some way.
I feel that.
And I don't, I said I'm not talking no more about none of this sneaky shit.
I ain't, I ain't, that's me.
Yeah, that's me.
But I do get your point about how even that could be dangerous.
That's the problem.
But I don't want to magnify that.
Whatever the audience is that that has,
I don't want to plus it by even one.
And see, see, my thing on it, you said something.
You said, she worded it this way because this will make people respond.
See, when I hear that, it's almost like addressing it or covering it, playing in, I'm giving you what you want.
Yeah.
So that's what, just me.
It's like, if I could see you trying to get the response out of somebody or whatever, I don't want to, I don't want to do that.
Y'all convinced me of that with Kanye, and that's why I stopped commenting on Kanye.
Y'all convinced me that that was not the right way to engage him.
But to me, Kanye at some point was yelling from the cheap seats.
He was yelling from the margins, and it seemed different.
Nikki is still very much, I mean, she's a turn.
Didn't start that way with Conne.
Yeah, exactly.
It took a while to get there, though.
That's true.
And so I don't know if that means we should get to this faster or we should ignore it sooner.
I don't know the answer because I don't have the right answer here,
but I feel really, and maybe because I know Don as well, I care more.
But I just genuinely feel weird to watch someone.
so talented, so powerful, so popular,
punched down like this.
You know, it feels very, I don't know.
I feel like I need to do something.
Yeah, but my thing is once I've,
like I've addressed this when it,
the first time it came up.
And once I do, like, my position's been made clear.
Like even that, I've heard you say that before.
So it's like, okay, every time somebody does something,
like not somebody, but Nikki, like,
are we going to come back to say,
hey, this is what's happening with her?
This is what it feels like.
And this is how I feel on the matter?
Like, you know, I feel I've made it clear.
And now I'm done over there.
I think y'all have convinced me again.
So unless something unusual happens, the next commentary I make about Nicky and I
is going to be about music.
That's where I'm at.
That's fair.
And I'm not sure I'm going to do that.
We got to do that.
I ain't sure.
I ain't sure about that.
Really?
I'm just not sure.
I'm going to sleep on it, but I'm not certain.
All new music don't just guarantee you come up here and just get to kicking it about some music
I just don't know.
But she's one of the biggest rappers in the world.
Some people just...
Awesome.
Awesome.
Awesome.
We didn't talk about the last three Kanye projects.
Yeah.
Yeah, were.
Happy for her.
Congratulations to her.
She's earned it as well-deserved.
That don't mean that you have to talk about anything.
That's what my favorite artist ever.
Yeah.
That's all I'm saying.
What else?
What else?
What else?
Anything else?
We did it?
We did it.
We did it.
I think we did it.
I think we did it.
I think we did it.
I think we did it.
I think we did too, man.
Yeah.
I enjoyed today.
Today was, today was great.
Good, good vibes.
Yeah.
Never thought we'd break down the lyrics to YMCA and this.
Never thought they fucked me up.
The fuck was on this nigga mine this weekend.
What?
No, you know why?
That shit came on when I was eating breakfast or some shit somewhere.
And I always thought they were saying, yummy.
Yummy.
What?
I thought they were.
Yummy.
Come and get you a treat.
I said,
yummy.
Like, I never paid too much attention.
That makes it worse.
I was going to say,
that's not better.
But that's why I thought the rumor was always there.
Because of yummy.
Because yummy, because they were.
Got it, got it.
Got it.
But then she was like, no, that's saying young man.
I'm like, oh, well, then why is the rumor there?
Right.
Like, this should be a zombies.
If they are directly saying, hey, young man, come here and get fucked.
No.
All right, come on.
Let's move on.
All right.
Young man.
I don't know what you're heard in.
That's exactly what they were saying.
That's exactly what would be in.
Passionately, too.
He was saying that shit from the bottom of his heart.
That niggas is sick.
It's like a whole song.
Might have been another organ.
The bottom of his bottom.
What?
Listen, man, really good episode today.
Hope you all enjoyed it.
Hope you all enjoyed this episode as much as we enjoyed.
delivering it to you out there.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there.
Until the next time,
we bid you adieu, farewell,
adio, seriva, dirchy,
asta, au revoir.
So long goodbye
or simple head novels to fight.
I thought you was doing sign language
of YMCA.
I didn't know.
No, well, I was telling you.
Watch your fucking mouth.
Oh, shit.
He looked like one of them
niggins, one of them characters.
I know.
Yeah.
The bear.
The construction.
The bear.
The beer.
Stupid, ball.
This shit ain't land,
that nigga,
that nigga.
Turn it up,
nigga.
It's just a
Not true.
Here we go.
Yo, as you know it.
You're older than everybody in here.
Be the fucking Y and shut the fuck.
Be the why,
nigga.
You said what?
Used to do the road.
Yeah.
You did that shit.
100%.
You fucking, you fucking,
1844, you said,
nigga, let's go.
Do it.
You got it.
Do the M.
Y.
That's the M.
Yeah.
Keep us in your bridge.
Lord knows we need to be there.
Until the next time, y'all hold it down.
Remember life is a series of moments and moments past.
So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.
And last, but certainly not.
All right, I'm enough of y'all.
He's singing his shit out of that song.
O.D.
Yo.
They was going.
too crazy on.
You don't eat me.
That was nuts.
How you heard that motherfucker?
No, that was nuts.
Shout to the village people, man.
For sure.
Uh, listen, lastly, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things.
Grab you with time and all, you might need it.
Anybody do anything this week?
Anybody got any weak plans popping on?
Single digits.
No.
No.
Don't call me.
I'm not going.
Ice, we're the host in that, man.
I'm coming to support.
Where we are?
My next party is my daughter birthday party.
man that's it all right all right let's go big Ari mark what you on speaking all week
everywhere speaking everywhere you can't talk now I know I got paid bills man being
gluttonous now being gluttonous you got to go through and do some sign you know what I'm saying
you go to YMCA yeah the opposite of gluttony is poverty yes it's you what you're doing your
your first second week of 50 just saying it can working got it got it got to be
Big flip, big flip.
In the crib, it's gonna be cold.
In the crib, keeping it like, man.
Chilling.
Chilling not too much, you know what I mean?
Keeping it light, not even cash apping nobody.
Just chilling.
Not even cash apps coming.
Not even cash app.
They're gonna hold me down, nigga?
Just in the crib, I thought.
I got you.
No, I'm playing.
Because at everybody says something like that.
You don't play, you make the weight.
He started to threaten the nigga,
you, hurry up.
Are you talking to be like that?
No, I'm just in the kid.
I'm a cash app you.
It's coming.
Yo, y'all hold it down out there, man.
Until next time.
Seriously, I don't need them
boys to men with this
ticket, right?
Because I'm gonna talk to them in a little bit.
You get something, nigga.
Yo, actually,
stupid question, man.
We all grew up loving that shit, man.
Yo, go check at Willcall.
Yo, a nigga be at Will call.
Y, let the nigga be at Willcar.
Yo, yo, we don't have it.
I checked this name.
No, no, that might not be under Is.
It might be under Antoine.
You, like, sir.
Can you move to the side?
Yo, let me call.
That shit be white.
You be there with your best gear on.
I have it at the clip show.
Your good cologne on.
Best shit on.
They stand in there.
I'm like, can y'all move, please?
Wasn't like some A-Lo shit?
No, not me, nigga.
Oh.
I goes, no.
Oh, other people.
Other people.
Got it, got, got, got, got, my bad.
I don't you play with me.
Big-ish.
Yo, man, stay by your mailbox.
That freeze invite going out soon.
You heard.
You heard.
Y'all know we did a lot of talking up here.
Stay by that mailbox, you heard?
I'm going right before Valentine's Day.
Two of the possible.
Over here.
Wherever right before Valentine's Day is.
Over here and over there.
Garden?
He scared me.
No, I'll do Jersey for this one, maybe.
He's talking about Freezing.
I do Jersey.
On a Friday.
Oh, I thought he let him letting the shit hang, man.
Yo, if you know Freeze, stay by your mailbox, yo.
It's happening soon.
We ain't asking for no refunds, nigger.
We're just doing it.
bawling. All right, man.
Flip what you want.
You're going to.
Chillin, man.
All right.
And you ask for a refus.
I'm having insurance.
If the three others get married together, we'll save a shit tonne.
We'll save a shits on the money.
We'll pay like $175.
For real, on a bundle package, man?
The bundle package.
Do it on a Thursday, too?
Whoa.
Now while it's cold out.
It's a winter.
Halloween.
Halloween is the cheapest day.
Oh.
Oh, you made the calls already.
You called around him.
You knew that.
That intel was on hands.
And it slipped up to me.
You thought about it?
He didn't mean to say that.
He thought about it.
Oh, my God.
He's got a theme wedding.
At Halloween, she told me that was the cheapest day.
Not bad.
Nice.
Listen, man, do it work for you, man.
Do it work for you.
That's it.
No old cane, no DJ, no videographer.
Lickers.
No problem.
What else?
Did you?
Don't think out the nerds.
We named Miracle.
It's going to be a miracle.
If somebody leads to wedding at me.
That's fucked up.
I'm fucked with Miracles.
Stop.
That's a joke.
That's a joke.
That's a joke.
We're out of here, man.
Holy shit.
I'm going to wear some shit.
What I'm going to wear the issue?
I just waiting now.
Now, I don't think about it.
Hoodie?
Nah.
I can't wait to introduce myself, too.
Yo,
Wait, hold on.
I just let me clear.
And I'm waiting to you not around.
You better have you eye on me.
You better.
You should have like that uncle that you can't let walk too far away.
You better watch.
Go get them.
Go get them.
You better have an eye or me, boy, when I get to the punch bone.
Yeah.
No, that is.
You know I'm a way to your ego.
Yeah, how you doing?
Oh, God, yo.
Sure, you've heard a lot about me.
Half the stuff you heard, it's true.
As, as a, as have I.
How you what we do?
You want, all, forget it, man.
Forget it, come on, we can go.
We can go, man.
Oh, my God.
Oh, man.
NUZhaven.
New your body.
JVP, JPP, where are you be without the JVP?
We'll fold that up right now.
You've never heard of Joe.
BAL?
