The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 897 | "Company Tardy Policy"
Episode Date: January 24, 2026The latest episode from the JBP opens with the snow storm that is slated to hit the east coast (17:51) before the cast predicts the winner of the Hit-Boy & Mike Will Made-It producer Verzuz (27:17). 2...1 Savage and Fivio Foreign exchange words (44:58), takeaways from the Oscars in which 'Sinners' earns a record 16 nominations (1:19:24), and Joe shares his review of the new Chris Pratt movie 'Mercy' (1:30:11). Drake appeals the dismissal of the "Not Like Us" lawsuit (1:33:34), Clipse, Leon Thomas, & Olivia Dean headline the list of performers for the 2026 Grammys (1:44:33), Valentine's Day plans (1:50:20), and the crew shows support to Vince Staples (1:58:27). Also, Jayson Tatum is an EP on Ella Mai's upcoming album (2:02:30), Charles Barkley's comments to ESPN lead to the Buss Family & the LA Lakers (2:24:12), Sebastian Telfair's appearance on 'The Pivot Podcast' (3:13:48), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden
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Did you just tell Mona that you don't,
wear draws.
Yeah.
That seems like a violation of some sort.
Well, she said, I want to see the draws.
She said that first.
Fair enough.
What I said exactly was I wanted to see if when you in ismatch, do y'all have the same
draws on?
And then you said, I don't wear draws.
And then I said, you're a real nigga.
Well, you said that in response to us saying that you and Joe called each other
in matched hats today.
That's what happened.
I got the bedazzle gun.
Yeah, yeah, they got that gun out.
My head cute.
we look good
yeah if you're 12
oh shit
we look good
y'all look good
man I'm in a good move
no I really like this workley head thing
um
so welcome
welcome welcome
salute
peace shout to wherever you might be listening
from
uh
it's just not here with us
he just text me and said
he's on his way here
he's leaving the dentist
Got to book that on a pod day.
Which is what my brain said.
My brain is like, yo, you book a dentist appointment on a pod day, but I didn't type that to him.
It might be a dental emergency.
Yo, he's going to come here with his shit, so all that he can't talk.
He might have been to orange pill and talk a job.
Crack your tooth on an orange pill.
That's crazy.
I got a dental procedure I've been putting off for years because of this job.
Years or you should go.
Yeah, you might want to get that look then.
No, because they said once.
they do that surgery to put the metal shit in there,
you're going to be done for a little while.
Yeah.
Oh, you got to get done it.
Oh, you get the implant.
Grounds, implant.
Yeah, they got to put the screw base in first and all that shit.
Yeah, but because my gums have risen to a certain extent,
it has to be done through my something else, and it sounds like it's.
It's real surgery.
Yeah, that's what she said.
It's a real surgery.
It's a real oral surgery, and don't expect that.
I didn't hear that and think I could be good to pod for weeks.
You can't even go by yourself.
You can't even go by yourself.
I'm risking my life for this.
I'm risking my life at this gig, yo.
Honestly, people don't look at it that way
because I just come in here chilling,
but there'd be so much going on behind the scenes.
It's one of the most dangerous professions in the world.
In the whole wide world.
Is it?
No.
Yeah, yes.
POD is dangerous.
No, we're talking shit.
So anyway, so issue's not here and Mona wasn't here.
So we were going to start with our,
start with our new company, Tarty policies,
since it's such a big deal for you,
out there.
Oh, they don't like that.
They don't like when people are late here.
They don't like it.
And then they talk all the shit about me in the world.
Poor reflection of leadership, they say.
They put it on you?
Yeah.
The guy who was probably fired more people in podcasting than any other podcaster out there.
I know how difficult it is to get rid of a podcaster.
So I'll be damned if we're doing it just because it was some traffic.
On top of the fact, I don't know why.
I'd assume that we're not getting verbal lashings off camera.
I mean, he's so professional why, but he'd do that on camera.
Exactly.
Like, he would never, like, just grind you to fuck up and disrespect you on camera.
On camera, no, no, he would.
On camera, no.
No, he would.
Not at all.
And, like, Mona gets up, Mona, fuck y'all talking about Mona's tardiness.
Oh, my God.
Behind her back and in front of her face.
Mona gets so many graces from me.
Mona gets girly lady grace.
Of course.
Because girly ladies just, you know, when they're girls.
They're never going to be on time.
They're never going to be on time.
Never.
And this is one of those gigs.
And Mone is bad with time, period.
And this is one of those.
And Mone is coming from a million hours away.
Her cousin over there is nodding you up.
That'd be Mons, the last one to show up to everything, family reunions, Thanksgiving.
And Mone is coming from far away.
That's true.
And this is one of those gigs where in order to be on time, you have to be early.
A lot of things working against a fuck.
off for trying to talk shit behind moaned his back.
Yeah, that's wrong.
Into my face.
Ish, I think, is just on some friendship shit.
Like, he just think, like, this is...
Regular.
This is like a monopoly game.
I get there right.
A lot?
No.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh?
I wouldn't say a lot.
I would.
So, what do we be...
Wait, wait, you mean here?
Just in general.
Who's the most tardy out the crew?
You mean, in general or here?
Here, here.
Who's the most tardy besides me of the crew?
Flip.
I wanted to hear, I want to hear what y'all was about to say.
So there's two levels of on time here.
There's the 10.30 on time.
Yeah.
A.m.
The real time.
The actual on time.
And then there's the, what time is the show start?
And when the fans see this in my late,
it's because they not only miss the 1030 window,
that means they miss the actual show start.
They lay as hell.
The fans know you late.
You like, late.
You lay this hell.
Right.
But so I was, it's on time.
He's not here at 1030,
but he's here long before the show.
He's here for the planet of the show.
So my new rule, audience,
out there that cares about the fucking tardiness policies up here.
Well, our new rule is when Parks is here, I'm starting.
Fair enough.
And Parks is all.
Parks always here.
Whoa.
Well, that's the, that's kind of the thing.
When the engineer gets here and we're able to record, we're recording.
There's no point in six and seven people's day being.
being altered because one or two people are late.
I don't think that's fair.
Especially with such a big, beautiful ensemble we have.
This is an ensemble cast we have.
So many talented people that like, you know.
Come on, man.
I couldn't agree more.
We can talk about anything.
So I couldn't agree more.
Stop playing with us, man.
You put some fucking respect when y'all talking about us out there,
honestly.
Come on.
Type like I see it.
Come on.
Type like I see it.
Sometimes they're just throwing shit at the walls.
Sometimes, you know, niggas is looking, man.
How are y'all feeling?
Feeling great.
Feeling good.
Much better.
Good.
Mark, you sound a hundred times better.
Yeah, I got most of my voice back.
You sounded like me before.
I know, I know, I know.
And then this morning I did a shot just to clear up my throat a little bit.
A little Bacardi in the morning?
I did a something else.
I would never drink Bacardi again just because you all my fucking.
I did a little Titos.
Ew, a shot of Titos?
Okay.
Yeah, just a clear the throat.
Okay.
Yeah.
I took one, too.
Shots of vodka?
Yeah.
Yeah, I wouldn't go skip.
I had no tequila.
We're on that.
We on that today.
I mean, it's better than Syrac.
But,
I mean, shots of vodka is disgusted.
And what is the shot supposed to do?
Clear my throat up.
Yeah, you know.
And get you saucy?
No.
How about a shot?
I don't know.
No, not a shot.
We, we jeez over here.
We're old men.
We drink.
Oh, boy.
We've seen Mark Tipsy off a red couple of red dogs.
We've seen Mark tipsy off some bullshit over there.
No, no.
Mona, what's up?
You good?
You good?
You good?
You good?
I'm good.
I'm in a great mood.
Good, good, good.
I love that.
It's a queriest season.
Okay, that's true.
I'm in a querious.
Congratulations.
Yeah.
Congratulations.
It's going to be a great year for Aquarians.
I didn't know that.
When is your actual birthday?
February 12th, same day as Abraham Lincoln.
You want it old.
Okay.
I'm a sign person and especially my sign.
We happen to be some of the most special people on Earth.
It's the truth.
Think about the Aquarius, you know.
Yeah, you know.
Oh, yeah, all them so aquariums.
They all queries.
Yeah, there's a lot of artists I love.
What you want for your birthday?
And all the great, like, activists, a lot,
Elangela Davis, I can name so many people.
Yeah.
And DeMone.
What's that one for our birthday?
From who?
From us as a collective.
It's probably going to be one gift.
I don't think y'all should do one gift.
It's probably going to be one gift.
Probably will, yeah.
It's going to be one guest.
I see what you want.
I'm thinking lunch.
That works.
We always do lunch.
We always do lunch.
Well, this time, it's your birthday.
It's going to be a birthday life.
That's your all you.
A gift card from the body shop or some shit.
Get yourself some lotion.
I'm going to get you a booster gift card.
Hey.
You know me.
I got you.
You know me.
I know you.
In a case of blacks.
Some Victoria Secret.
Oh, yeah, nah.
We got to get her a lot of blacks.
From the middle, from the middle square.
Not the shit about the register.
The middle square where everybody is touching and putting their germs.
Where you talk to put your pussy.
From the middle shit and Viggy's.
Mad Jern.
Yeah, people try candies and lingerie on all the time
and return them.
Yes.
Okay, that's nice stuff.
They do.
They do.
Is Victoria's Secret one of the spots that, like, you thought was the shit when you
younger and now, nobody fucks with it?
Or is it still like something you could get somebody?
Kind of.
I feel like they evolved a little bit because they separated.
So they got like a younger brand called pink.
Yeah.
Kind of.
Freezos.
I'm about saying.
Like, well, I'm in the malls, man.
Vicki's secret.
Was never that.
for me since very young
because I liked
the catalogs
thicker women
but they can't fit this shit facts
they couldn't get done out of the aisle
not all that's
Fredericks
that makes sense
that's a fact
Fredericks was the
Frederick's secret
big breasted
bras got you
Vicky Secret
they ain't gonna get it done
that's for them little white girls
then they got in trouble
then Vicki Secret got in trouble
for some shit
what they got in trouble
for how they marketed something
wasn't it the um
the fashion show
It was that fashion show.
And then Rihanna came out and put her foot on their neck because she was all-inclusive.
Yeah.
And once that happened, she killed me.
Rihanna got the sports bra on the 6X.
Good to know.
Speaking of Rihanna, man, you were missed so much on the episode.
Aesep came in and asked where you were by name and talked about how funny you were.
That's crazy.
Yeah, he made sure to say the newer girl.
Yes.
He made sure it was no confusion.
No, I thought.
with him. I can't believe he.
It's still fucked me up that service.
That is what he said.
I feel a little sauce on it.
He said, by name.
He said, you know the one right thing.
That'll work. That'll work.
I still be fucked up by certain people
knowing who I am or whatever.
But, you know, this platform is huge.
But that's lit.
Shout to he said, thank you for the glasses.
They're really hard.
Thank you.
Yeah, no, he was great.
He was.
Yeah, he was.
And the glasses was dope.
Hell yeah.
Even is, Mr. I don't fuck with Ray Banz.
Oh, this is real nice.
Ish wore the ASAP glasses before the glasses you got them.
That's what I'm...
That's what I was going.
Yo.
It would be on brand.
It really would.
It would be very...
Very on brand.
They were cute.
They grew cute.
They were cute.
Oh, man.
Shout to ASAP.
That was great.
That little clip is flying around.
Yo.
I heard you yes?
I said, yo, that shit.
Everywhere I looked.
I said, okay.
Y'all killed that.
Flip joke was great.
That was perfectly timed.
Yeah.
Non-disrespectful.
Like, it was a perfect joke, yo.
Yeah, but the whole interview was dope.
Y'all killed it, man.
I was really happy to see it.
No, it was dope.
It was dope.
I had a good time.
I'm glad that happened.
Yeah.
Ooh.
When we could be superstars.
Hey.
Mike check, mic check.
Hey, bro.
Is that jamba?
What is that jambah?
Florida was going to.
Whole New York City, big charity, big charity.
Houston, y'all getting snowed, too.
So you, my, dude.
I'm going to be your killer.
Nobody's going to play with you.
with you go against in the niggins like fuck it's glittal skit all dirt i'm bidsen i put it in for you i spin for you
whewit you're gonna cross the nigger i'm rocking which i got you live in the
man happen to be in the daddy to my lift here everybody in there i do all to smack me no stuff but
hell with none of your kill it you're gonna lie to cat watch when i check to the nurses too man shout to the nurses
i hope y'all get that together soon or that strike is lasting longer than i thought it would
You flitch like a pussy little bit
Damn I knew you tripping
We could have been superstars
Ain't happy now I'm reminisce
Remember we were checking cars
Now you better to keep your dissing
Cause it's not safe to you
You twitch like a pussy little bit
Snatch all for your shit
When I slide
Nightlight
Nice on race
Yes sir
In the supermarket getting ready
Load up load up
We do not
We did not
Miss you more than 80s
Yeah, milligrams
Bitch, I'm still a man
We slaying a rock
Yeah, bitch you jiggle
And I'm plugged on the border
N'em, n'bush, I'm gonna work the ride
I had to sit him home
I'm doing 45 a day
All these ain't triple S
bitch, bitch, we're going on all blues
Just for you, man
The energy right in the building,
yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Nogne, no, no, no, no, no,
Joe,
B, no, no,
No, Joe Biden
It's been the highlight of my week
putting together this new gym playlist
A little different from that disco who was talking about before
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, different mood, different vibe
This is
Parks
Um,
Um,
You're price and fish
Mm-hmm
Is Mark to my hill, puzzling, pussy
Episode is this
897
Welcome to episode 897 of the JbP
Brought to you by a few by power by
Price Pigs, guys, gang,
Yeah.
I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here.
Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right.
Stop playing with her, man.
Don't call a white girl, De Mona, Miss Mona in the building.
How you doing, Mona?
I'm great.
Great.
Absolutely love that.
Next to her, our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building.
Mark was popping with you?
Ain't shit, man.
Good.
Absolutely love that.
Next to him, the freesiest of the mall, Elizabeth's finest, big ice in the building.
Ice, how you doing?
I'm great, man.
Glad to be here and I missed you.
I love that.
I missed you too, my brother.
Elmira's finest, our good man.
Parks is in the building. Parks, how you doing?
Feel great, man. Feel great.
Absolutely love that.
Poet's here.
Corey is here.
Mona's niece is here.
Anaya.
Anaya, shout to Anaya.
Anaya, nothing against you.
Every week, Mona has somebody different.
I'm about to say.
Every week.
I think it's a lineup.
I swear.
No, I'm going to be selling tickets.
Oh, shit.
She saw those backstage passes?
Yeah, Mona get money.
Mola gets money.
I get money.
I get money.
Shout to Eric Santana
Savana here by Remote Labs,
but certainly not least,
teaching every one of you guys are here.
Everybody is feeling great,
looking great, smelling great, and ready for work.
Indeed.
For sure.
Big snowstorm.
Yes.
Is it really going to happen?
Yes.
Yeah, this should look like it.
No, no, no, it is.
It's guaranteed.
The news people all but said,
no, they said,
it's guaranteed to be happening.
This is the first time that everybody,
all of us over here,
are getting six inches.
Not just six inches something.
I'm a child, y'all.
Six inches, that's it?
No, I guarantee six.
That's the minimum.
Guaranteed six as the minimum everywhere.
Like certain areas, like, where I looked at it, they're talking about 11, 12 inches.
We can get 12 inches and then another 40 next day.
When does it start?
Sunday morning.
But first it was Saturday, now it was Sunday.
It was like midnight going, basically all night when you go to bed on Saturday.
wake up with like 2 a.m. Sunday morning
which for Puddniggas is Saturday night.
He'll be outside.
So that's, yeah, yeah, niggas will be outside.
I'll be right up.
I'll be right up.
I'll be outside.
That's the problem.
It won't be school.
Hell no.
That's what I'm worried about.
That's a, why you worry?
You got another day home with your kid.
That's true.
Mom, Donnie announced that there will 100% be school on Monday either by remote.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, they got that bullshit.
I don't care if they learned.
I care that they're not home.
Right, get them niggas out.
I don't need to help if they're in the house learning.
Can we meet at the pal and do the remote?
Right.
Why do you have to do a remote?
That's a bullshit.
That's a bullshit.
I'm watching our mayor to see how he handles this snowstorm.
Mm.
This is his first big, like, let's see what you got.
Yeah, yeah.
No, for real.
That's true.
I was there when they fucked up and when de Blasio fucked up in 2016
and didn't have any trucks on the street.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was.
Absolutely no. I remember that.
You remember that. The streets were messed up for a while after that.
You can't have New York like that.
Not at all.
There was somebody else that messed up.
The snow before that, before that, before that, somebody messed up.
So how they handle these types of weather events.
Yeah, it's a big deal.
Yeah, don't be conservative with that road salt this weekend.
At all.
Because it's supposed to be freezing too, so this shit about to be here for a minute.
That's the problem.
That's a scary part.
That's the problem.
Four degrees.
Houston has got, Houston.
Houston has got really bad weather as that storm makes its way to Oklahoma.
I've been on this since 4 in the morning.
A lot of the South is getting hit, right?
It's 30 out of the lower 48 states are going to fill this storm.
Sheesh.
Okay, so let's talk about what really matters.
Who's been in the supermarket buying everything on the shelves?
Nah, I instacarted, but my fuck.
Well, yeah, I ain't go in the supermarket.
I got a dude, man.
He came back with all the wrong shit.
Oh, my God.
It's so bad.
When you get a man, cancel, redo it.
They just, men don't know how to Instagram.
It was, like, don't just get, I ordered like a plain soda water, like a couple cases or whatever.
He just got the same brand, but like some weird ass flavor.
Like, I don't care about the brand.
Get me plain soda water.
Like, yeah, it is.
Do you fill out the replacement thing?
I did, but I was doing some shit, so I didn't, like, you got to be there.
You got to be all point.
Yeah, you got to be like, what's that knee out the aisle?
You done.
But I didn't, I order it for you to just bring it to me.
I don't order it.
If I'm going to have to shop with you, then I might as well to go to the fucking store.
Exactly.
When you do put your order in,
do you automatically put, like,
find something closest to this?
I do, but passion through soda water
is not the same as playing soda.
You would have to be able to read
to be able to do that part.
And they don't got good judgment.
Like, they'll bring Alka-Seltzer.
Facts.
You know what I mean?
Like, they'll bring some shit.
Right.
Close enough.
Yeah.
Well, did you buy anything else?
Did you stock up on anything?
Water, toilet paper, paper towels.
But, you know.
What are you guys's normal,
a storm is coming supermarket habits?
World War II.
I assume that the weatherman is off by like a month.
So I buy about 20 days of canned goods.
Oh, God.
I buy frozen meat.
I don't buy bottle workers.
I already have a, you know,
a water machine at the house.
So I always keep like 20 to 30 gallons of water just in case.
You know what I mean?
Just basic things like generators and all that shit too.
All of it.
It sounds like you got a bunker.
You got some guns?
Dried.
Oh, wait, I can't ask you.
I'll just say this.
I grew up in a cold.
there's a way that you prepare for not being able to
to go out in the world for a while.
And that's how I prepared at all times.
Got it.
They got a word for that.
What is that the survival?
Yeah.
It's called the cult.
No, you're right.
It's called a survival.
Yeah, it's something.
I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, it is a word for that.
It's a survivalist.
Yeah.
I thought, I thought something.
That sounds really, um,
that sounds very positive.
Survivorists.
Like, who is a survivalist?
Stay ready and got to get ready.
I'm relying on, I'm relying on,
what up bitch.
yes we're
Yeah
Yeah
We've been
Yeah
What will we not
Why would you
Why would
Why would
We're sitting talking
Why would we be
Record?
The fact
We're right
That us though
Yeah
Wait the funny shit is
This is where we come
To record
For five
Almost five years
Now with you
Like this is the
Record place
And he knows what it looks
Like
We're not recording
We're over here
We're over there
We're on the balcony
We're running
You know
But your teeth
But your teeth look nice
Your teeth
Your teeth look great
Are you okay?
Are you in any pain?
Go ahead make yourself some tea, man.
This guy's the greatest.
Look, this is why I like starting.
Yo.
That shit might be bad loud too.
Little team machine.
You start bubbling.
Tomboiling.
Yeah.
So glad you can almost join us.
You're halfway.
You're almost at work.
Yo, he's chilling.
He's almost at work.
That's my man.
Audience, audience.
Israelites.
Ish is here.
Rejoice.
Rejoice, man.
He made it from the dentist.
And he's gone.
Yo, this weekend, I'm relying on.
on
somebody from DoorDash
or Uber eats to need a couple
coins and have a bicycle.
I don't ask for much.
Yo.
Bicycle?
No, no, no, no, no.
They don't ask for much.
You know who going to do it?
The Chinese joint.
Oh, for sure.
Oh, yeah.
The Chinese joint will always do it.
I'm just saying.
If it gets shaky, you can count on him.
Anything outside of that,
I'm relying on
what black people have
in their cabinets.
Black people have
It's soup in there
Whenever you go in there
It's expired like seven years ago
So what?
It's fine
No once you heat it up
It cook all that out
Any what
Obey'll fix that right up
Yeah we're going straight keen
Exploration dates are suggestions
Not
You don't have a whole tool
Udus and noodles
It's always got some oodles
I definitely got some tuna
I just bought some tuna
I got some shit in there
I'll be fine
I rely on
on humans ability
To survive things
For a short period of time
Like the news don't
never come on and say, yo, it's about to be
fucked up for the next month or two. Then I'd
be like, okay, let's hit Acme.
Did you do that for COVID?
A couple of days? No.
I don't know. I'm talking about
when they first or everything shut down, you ain't going to supermarket and stuff?
No.
Yeah, you parted that.
All they said on...
I had to pick toilet paper in one point. That was bad.
That was going to help us with COVID. That was one of the
dumbest things they did would say, hey, go get some toilet paper.
I bought him a day.
Fucked out. You're not catching me slipping again.
I got up a day too
during COVID.
That's weird.
We have that in common.
Clean assholes, yeah.
Yeah.
That shit got that germ shit on the top of your mind, boy.
My handyman, handyman was doing some work the other day when he finished.
He said, let me use the bathroom.
He came out of the bathroom and went to shake my hand.
No, no.
And I shook it, assuming that, you know what you did what you're supposed to do.
Was it what?
What?
It was damp.
Oh, no.
Not a drop of water.
Sometimes you got to not dry your hands
just to tell the person
that you're about to shake their hand,
I did wash.
It was not a drop of water.
Dry hand.
Okay, hold on.
Yeah, I just picture.
I love it.
I don't want to tell you my picture.
Hit you with a.
I'll save you guys.
Y'all will be surprised how many people
do not wash their hands.
Like at all, women and men.
I thought it was a men thing, but it's women too.
These women were talking about it
in the comments section.
Some people were like, who cares?
One person put,
Why do I have to wash my hands if I'm holding tissue?
I was like, what, bitch?
Because doodoo get dutut tissues sometimes.
They don't know about the doodoo flakes in the air.
They don't know about it.
I call people out on it.
I was in the airport.
Like last week, when I see people walk out the stall and don't do doo, I mean, don't wash their hands.
I'd be like, this one works.
You do that?
Yeah, because I don't want to embarrass them.
I just make, I act as if I think they thought the sink day.
I'll be like, oh, this one works.
And then they got to do something.
I'm surprised Mark don't fight more.
I was just getting ready to say, somebody going to fuck Mark.
There's a way that.
He shrugged it off, but he did put on hand sanitizer, like, as, at the
Okay.
So he's massive beautiful.
No, he just sanitized the shit that's on his hand.
Yeah, he's got to watch.
And that is the end of our hypochondriac segment.
Really hope you guys enjoyed that.
Enjoy that.
Wash your hands after you use the bathroom.
Don't ever forget.
They had to teach us how.
That's the one thing I remember about the pandemic.
What?
They didn't teach us how to wash our hands.
20 seconds.
20 seconds.
The watches, the Apple watches had like a little time.
It was disgusting.
Gross.
Anyway.
Okay.
What needs are attention?
on this beautiful, beautiful, beautiful day.
It's gonna be hard to talk new music without this year.
That's true.
A rest of the name is you.
Yo, we're so stupid, man.
What don't wanna tell you about?
I mean, you know what I'm excited the most about.
What's that?
Producer versus having a daughter.
Yeah, we're back.
Excuse me, what you say?
Having a daughter.
Yes.
That's number one.
That's number one.
Okay, number two.
But number two is Mike Will and Hip Boy.
I hate him.
He's a piece of shit.
I hate them.
Come on, we can start with Mike Will and Hit Boy.
Come on.
Get in your bag.
Mike Will and Hit Boy, end of the month.
Brought to you by Complex Apple Music,
they are bringing back producer versus.
I love that part.
We've been begging for this for how long parts.
For a long time.
I love this songwriter, the producer versus much more than the artist,
star artist versus.
Same.
It's just more interesting.
It highlights people that don't get highlighted.
It's a lot of, oh, shit.
didn't know they did that too.
That's my favorite part.
It's a much more interesting verses to me.
All right, give me the tea.
Give me the tea.
Who you got winning?
This is tricky.
This is tricky.
This is a tricky.
And again, the way they do this shit now is a lot of performances.
So you start questioning who's showing the fuck up.
You know, listen.
That is an interesting, but I wonder if they will do pop like, like, pop-ups.
I'm pretty sure.
That's how, because it's a lot of money behind these shit now.
Yeah, true.
So it's not just y'all stand there and play records.
We're going to have some performances.
All right, that's cool.
Who you got winning this show?
So I think Mike Will has the bigger bangers,
but I think that Hit Boy has a deeper pause catalog.
I got Mike.
Mike, too.
I'll tell you, I got Mike.
Mike is going to be tough to stand for all them fucking
race rumor records and shit are going to work.
Hip Boy.
Hit Boy got bangers too.
I'm not, I love Hit Boy.
This is just going to be great.
Yeah.
What?
Who y'all got?
I got Mike Will.
Let's call him out.
Hip boy, my man, but I got to go Mike Will.
You're going Mike Will.
Mike Will.
Michael Williams.
Rest of peace, Michael Williams.
Mike Will did it.
Mike Will's going to do it.
He thinks Mike Will's about to do it.
Bad?
It ain't going to be good.
He got like a sweet.
He got like Miley Cyrus and shit.
That's why it's tricky.
I feel like Hit Boy.
Hit Boy is my man.
So it pains me to speak about him in this light.
I feel like he, you know why I fuck with him?
I feel like he'll walk into whatever fight.
For sure.
Like he don't care about who's standing across from him.
He don't care about the reputation, the hits.
He's going to walk in, what's up, on some hip-hop shit.
I will say, too, he's done this before.
He had Boy Wonder during the early stages of this.
So that is a nice advantage.
Like, he knows the mistakes he may have made or the advantages that he has in this field.
He lost the Boy Wonder.
Fair.
Right, but that might give him a leg up.
That's what I'm saying.
Experience.
That's what I'm saying.
And his boy moved like he got a chip on the show.
He do.
Like, even when we talked to him before,
like he acts like,
I could see him pulling out some shit, yo.
He did.
I could see Mike Will being cutlery.
Who's the person that moves some shit off you?
It's a concierge.
Hey, wherever that chip is located,
I can see somebody kindly,
Kindly removing it.
Knock that right off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Last time, Hit Boy pulled out some unreleased
Nip records, I think, too,
that, like, he might have some shit in the cut
that it's like, oh, shit, now hold up.
For the people unfamiliar out there,
pull up some, pull up some of the records
from each of their discographies.
Come on.
I mean, hip boy can go.
Niggas in Paris, of course.
Of course.
Sickle mold.
Yeah.
Formation.
Beyonce.
You got some tough outs.
Let me see.
You got racks in the middle, Nipsey Hustle.
He got Click.
Good music.
Boy, Wonder won because he had all them fucking Drake Records.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it'll be nice to see Hit Boy get a shot against somebody that is not coming in with mostly a legacy act.
Yeah, true.
Yeah.
Like, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a lot of shit, bro.
Read it to us.
Come on.
All right.
I'm going to go directly.
Hold, let me pull up Hit Boy.
I'll do some Mike Will
while you're doing that. He's got mercy. He's got no lie.
Bandsmaker dance.
Pour it up.
Sheesh.
Love me, Wayne.
Bugatti.
Body party is going to work.
The Miley Cyrus record, we can't stop.
All the Ray Shimmered shit.
Yeah.
Move that dope.
Oh my God.
These are tough records to stand in front of.
No flexo, no tight, you know all the Ray Shermer and shit.
And you know they're going to pop out for the-
Paradise.
Yeah, I'm sure.
I hope so.
I would hope so.
You know who's going to pop out?
Ray Sherman.
Yeah, I don't think they're busy.
Niggins ain't seen each other in 17 years.
Humble.
A's D.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Wait.
Okay.
You think they've seen each other.
Yes.
You think they text?
Yes.
They ain't texting.
Okay.
Was their names?
Slim Jimmy.
and who?
Swayley.
Nica, Swahely, ain't texting
no damn slim, Jimmy.
Okay.
We'll see.
I'm the one that started
that room in 2015, too.
I think I broke the niggas up.
They put that two back out.
The double album?
Yeah, I mean,
he's got Backstreet Street Feastrial,
he's got click,
he's got...
Yeah, I'm looking at.
I'm over here.
Trophies, sick old mode.
He's got shit.
He got a lot of shit, bro.
He got a lot of shit.
Rihanna Wool,
ASAP Goldie.
Love Goldie.
Me too.
And one train.
Who got one train?
Hit Boy.
He better play it.
Oh, he's going to play it.
He better play it.
He better play it.
Damn, this is going to be fun.
This is going to be fun.
Let me not, let me not, let me not, let me not, let me not, let me not, let me not,
paint it like this is about to be some blowout.
Yeah.
I don't think it's going to be that.
If you had to put numbers on, you say 12, 8, 13, 7, what y'all think?
Yeah, I like a 128.
I got Mike Will 128.
I still like Mike Will 128.
I'm not bad at that.
And if Hit Boy, I'll be really, really.
rooting for hit boy though that's what bad so yeah i'm rude for him boy i ain't
never been no studio with mike will i ain't one of them type of niggas i'm riding with my
niggis yeah i'm rooting for hit boy yeah this is i'm excited is what's up man
good day sir it's a better day now i go to dinner you crack a two for a sudden no i got a crown
last week and um something happened with it oh okay you tell a shit story
You asked me
We waited 30 minutes for that
I went to the dentist
I got a crown
all the way in the back
The wisdom joint
And they was like
Yo it's normal
Like you could eat
Wait till the anesthesia
Wear off
But now every time I'm eating
That shit is hurting her
Like every time I eat
That shit is mad painful
So
I made an appointment
To go in there
But I think I was going to take
This long
Like I was the first appointment
That's the crazy part
Getting the crown
Fix
About being a
On a wisdom tooth in the back
A piece of cake
Five minutes
Just like a game out
You're the first appointment
It's just so delusional about shit
That you gotta just like
No I was there 8 in the morning
You don't think that the shit
gonna take that long
I'm telling you.
You straight now?
They got you right?
No, I gotta go back.
I gotta go back.
Tomorrow?
Tuesday?
Tuesday at 9 minutes to be fast.
Tuesday at 10-15.
You have you in it out.
That's funny.
Oh, my God.
Holy shit.
And you go on Livingston.
I know we're in national broadcasts.
They don't know that Livingston is really like the fanciest of the fancy.
That's where the rich people go.
Oh, yeah.
Why did you pick that?
Because that's where the rich people.
Got it.
You answered your own question?
One of my friends referred me to that.
So your man's referred you.
Did they do a consultation for free?
Of course they did.
Please don't bring that over.
Of course they did.
Just one more question.
Is it Dennis a woman?
No, it's a man.
It's two side by side, Dennis.
Oh, shit.
I'm glad you could be here.
We're talking about hip boy and Mike Will.
Mike Will is a producer,
did some work with Miley Cyrus.
All the Grades.
Pallie Cyrus, all the grits.
All the Grades.
You got a future back too, don't he?
Yeah.
Who got a future back?
Mike Will.
Yeah, you damn right.
I got about that.
And big hit.
Locked up.
13.7.
Your dad can't come save you, boy.
Shout to big hit.
Shout to big hit.
Shout to all the hits.
All the hits.
You better bring them.
Yeah.
It's going to be a night.
But I'm glad that.
I'm glad they're doing this, man.
Shout out to Apple music.
Shout the verses.
Shout to Complex.
I look forward to this.
This is going to be a lot of fun.
Yeah, more producer battles, man.
And songwress.
Bring them back to.
What else we got in music?
What else we got music besides 21 versus Fabio?
I don't know this story.
The new art.
is out.
All right, let's go 21
versus...
Let's go.
That I already shit is nice.
Anyway.
The album came out?
Yes, it's a great album.
It really is.
It's a great fucking out.
Vacancy.
Yeah, vacancy's out.
15 tracks.
I think she's three for three on albums.
I just think she puts out amazing albums.
This one's different than the other two.
It was fun, you know?
Yeah, yes.
Like her persona online does not give me
I'm about to get some fun music from her,
but this was a very fun album.
Yeah.
I was shocked.
It took like the best parts of her first two,
the sexuality, the vocals, the little jazz layers,
and then add it like humor and fun in its light.
You don't feel like somebody's going through trauma when you listen to it.
I don't want to call it poppy, but it's got a, like, it's easy to listen to.
It's not like a super heady R&B album.
It's fun.
I thought that JD probably did it all, but he didn't when I looked at the production credits.
No, it was a few different folk.
And the reggae tracks were good, and not a lot of features.
I think just Buju, right?
I think so, yeah.
Yeah, so it's one feature.
It's all her, the rest of the album.
I strongly recommend this.
I don't know, I ain't going to say it's to her best one.
the first album is still the best.
Yeah, but it's strong.
Yeah, it is.
It's not, it's no fall off to me.
Well, say less, I'm certainly going to check this out after that glowing review.
And I was going to check it out anyway, because Ari is, Ari is fucking queen-folded before Kalani.
Every Ari is some, Ari going to keep a few about just getting fucking folded.
Oh, it's a lot of that.
It's a lot of that.
Bent up.
Yeah, no, I love that.
I love that.
That's why I don't get how she act like that online.
Yeah.
It doesn't, yeah.
It doesn't.
It don't match.
It don't match.
It don't match.
But anybody's making music about getting folded.
I'm into it.
Shout to Arilems.
I bought another folded pack over the weekend.
There's more still?
What was this one?
This one was, they got an a cappella.
They got an unfolded version.
What's the unfolded?
Unvolded is a different version of the, uh.
I was just the one that was like the live version or some shit.
Let me see, let me see, let me see.
The nigga came over there.
That's what happened.
He came to get a shit.
Yeah.
And now it's...
I just want to talk.
Unfolded back at the drawer.
I'm just going to take your stuff and leave.
If you're tired of hear me talk about folded, just hit the skip button.
Yeah.
But I told you I'm going to buy it every time he put it out.
It's so silly of me to act like I don't need your back.
You get the point.
Yeah.
Oh, all I could think about is since I've seen you then.
I know I didn't have to walk away.
All I had to do was ask for space.
Oh, my God, I love that.
Yeah, I love it, I love it.
My whole algorithm is unfamous people singing,
folded, playing folded on a guitar.
Some Japanese nigger was singing folded on a microphone.
You saw him?
He killed that shit.
He was killing.
Yes, my algorithm is nothing but folded.
But anyway, what else came out in our new music?
Go ahead.
42 Doug returned with his new mixtape.
It's called Part 3, which is the Young Intern 3,
but it's just labeled Part 3.
Quick 30-minute tape, 10 songs,
features Riloh, Little Baby,
Glorilla, G. Herbo.
A couple other folks.
Oh, gym playlist.
My new gym playlist.
For all of us.
For all of us, 42 Doug fans who wasn't kind of filling the album,
wasn't filling a couple singles beforehand,
thought maybe he was kind of slipping off.
I'm here to tell you he is 100% back with this project.
Like, this is the dog that, y'all know I'm a huge fan.
And anybody who's a huge fan, this is the dog.
We want it.
So we got to add.
Oh, ESTG is on there, too.
No ad.
No ad.
We got to add 42 Doug to the list.
He's CMG.
Oh, so you, the list already.
All right.
You want it.
but anyway
he's back
so y'all
look like this
I shit on the last project
so I keep it up
but yeah
well I'm gonna check it out
go on cop that part three
what else is up
uh rock Marciano
dropped the project
656
it's it's rock Marciano
it's weird loops
and abstract raps
and it's great
I love it 30 minute project
no major features
Arrow Holden's the only feature
um
sounds great
my sleeper album
was the IDK album
which is
E-T-D-S, a mixtape?
This shit got heat on it.
We already played the Pursher record.
I think K is nice, yeah.
This shit right here.
Hey, listen.
What's a killer? I would be like Luigi.
Do it real clean, treat the strap like a squeezy.
Everybody fuck with you and everyone needy.
How the fuck we push the course?
This one, everyone's greedy.
That's why I move by myself.
I don't need no one hell.
Hit the lick on my lonely because they might just tell.
Every one of your fake, y'all are plastic as hell.
Me and soft a rap.
I play the thugs keep
Thugging the hoops keep
Going to fat ass and shaking
Why the liquor keep
Poeing an A key
Looking because I keep winning
And I keep her
So I keep running
I'm turning a hat
Okay
It's tough
Yeah
Album is real tough
It's got a bunch of different
vibes on here
I'm gonna check that out
That sound good
But if it come on in the spot I am
I am gonna look around
That's not spot music
If it come on in the spot that I am
Then I'm in a peek around
It's not really the spots of you
go too kind of vibe.
I'm going to go talk to the manager.
Shawty might catch that beat.
Yo, I'm that dude now.
If I'm in the spot and I look over the DJ proof
and it ain't no nigga there.
It's just a TDK playing.
I go call the manager.
Yo, dog, it's 1.30.
Oh, they should have a DJ.
Yeah, this should be a DJ.
That's what I'm saying.
But the New York DJs is getting on bullshit.
They coming in.
The New York DJs get by in that little booth
It'd be 2.15 a.m.
The New York DJs was recording a mix at home
Putting it in the shit with the drops and everything
And then leaving.
Indeed.
That's crazy.
We saw it.
You saw it.
I saw it.
I saw it.
I did.
I did.
Let's see.
Let's see.
What else?
Is there anything else in new music?
Or can I get to the beef?
Get to the beef?
I was thinking about another music.
Let's get to the beef.
Let's do it.
I woke up to this beat.
Oh, look at you.
That's what you woke up to?
That's the beef.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
I'm sick of Instagram.
I need to speak to the manager
let them know how faithful I'm being.
For real, Instagram.
Boy.
Instagram can't rely on you, man.
Instagram lies on you, man.
You ain't like that picture.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
The algorithms be fucking y'all.
Have you think you're doing shit you're not doing?
Man, y'all faces be floating everywhere.
And my girl sent me all.
sent me all the mid that my face is floating around.
She sent all the mid.
Like, look, nigga, you still, I got the U-Joe Button speech.
That's how bad it was.
That's how bad I was.
It was.
Can't be under this mid, man.
Yo, dog, you are Joe Button.
Look what you did.
I didn't see you under a white girl that day.
I was like, you expanded.
Who you be seeing the most out there in these streets?
These two.
Thank you.
Who are you saying?
Hands down.
And they'd be in the same spot.
spots. Yeah, right there. I'll be seeing ice a lot.
Joe, Joe more than
than I see both.
It's still more than ish, but I see both.
Each and Joe the most. I'm changing that.
Joe just always like,
it just makes me, it's like, what the fuck
are you doing here? Like, it's always
where I don't expect them to be. Like,
it's funny. Oh, man.
Okay. Yeah, let's get
to the beef. Favio Foreign
versus 21 Savage.
I woke up to 21 Savage, cursing out
Fabio Forren, I didn't understand why, but it dates back to
Fabio Foreign's academics interview in which he said.
Like Savage is a street nigga. Like future, I look at him like,
he's a bitch magnet. What's making, what's making, what's making,
what's making you think that Savage is a streetnaker?
Okay. Okay. And seriously. That's enough. Right there.
The same, when you said, fuck the streets.
Okay. I think he said that because he loves stuff, honestly.
The same thing you've heard about, or
when I heard, maybe you just know. All right.
same thing I've heard about baby when it comes to niggies he be with then how to get down
same thing I've heard about saps same nobody play with him it ain't like that you know
I mean heard the same day that's why who's just the biggest no boys music yeah he's a jzy of
Atlanta clearly I think Fabio so la I think he's gonna drop two albums this here yeah but future's the
biggest what the funny 21 Savage is street nigga oh he's this really stop it street nigga where
The foil niggas, stop.
In Atlanta?
You could only be a street name
where you're from.
Like, niggas in Montana
don't know if you're a street.
That's not true.
It's not true.
You're a certain type of a nigga.
You're a certain type of nigga everywhere
and your name of your,
your arm is going to be able to stretch
of certain different parts of the world.
No, it's a set of the states.
Savage is one of them.
Honestly, like, I'm not even,
I'm not.
I'm not saying on.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm saying the gist of what's going on in this clip.
I'm saying that.
No, no, it's not.
But they continue.
It's really.
It's really.
I feel like I've seen enough
and obviously I don't know
I don't see a lot of shit
but like I love a act being the one
that has to explain
I've never really been around baby
but everything I've heard about baby
and how you're rolling
niggies you get down with
I know how they're going right
I know how they're going
I'm telling you I hear the same thing
if I was to talk about Atlanta
okay okay okay okay
well I still used to be on that
wait baby niggies
on that.
Come on,
act.
Mute up.
Savage niggas
on that.
And there's a lot
of other people
know,
they always told me
Migos was from Gwinnett.
Which I don't know what that means.
So how come,
how come six,
nine could dis dis dis 21 Savage
so much?
Yeah, but he dissed New York
niggas to them.
Like,
he'd be this in New York nays
like it's going on style.
Nah,
but you're saying this,
you're saying this.
All right, enough for that.
Um,
which provoked 21 Savage to say this.
Have you up foreign,
shut up.
H-ass up.
Mother fucking name.
Don't think because a nigga trying to change that, man.
You don't fuck you with the-p-pick.
Y'all niggins said to that, straight up.
If your ass walk around with a 38, don't say nothing to me about the street.
Straight up.
If your ass, 35 or older, and you've been trying to rap since you was goddamn
17, 16, 15, don't say nothing to me about the street.
You don't know nothing to me about the street.
You ain't did.
Straight up.
Long clip, but I'm letting it play.
I'm out of these, fuck the screen shit.
Savage this, savage that, savage this.
Savage is slap the shit out on the yon.
That's real, like, got me to stop off, I can't complain.
Don't think, because Savage on some positive shit, that is, oh, let's talk about savage every day.
Let's, let's talk about Savage artists.
Nah, this ain't that.
Y'all, niggas still get your ass, whoop.
Straight up.
Nigh got around, they be looking for clout, man.
Man, nigga old as hell.
Poor as a motherfucker.
How the fuck can you tell a nigga from a whole other state what they is?
You don't even know no, no, nigga.
What the hell?
What the hell?
Y'all niggas, they don't want to be rappers.
Y'all life ain't dead nothing in the street.
Y'all niggas ain't seen enough in the street to even feel how I feel about the street.
That's what a disconnect come in there.
I don't give a fuck about what your partner's than did.
I don't get what fuck about what your hood in the dead.
I'm talking to y'all.
Y'all as individuals.
Y'all niggas ain't did nothing in the street
so y'all don't have no feelings towards me.
Y'all ain't cried enough.
Y'all ain't lost enough.
Straight up.
Y'all n' guys better stick to rapping, man.
Put-sized niggas, niggins.
Stick a fork in it, bro.
Y'all, niggas.
Gangsters of a motherfucking area 59, man.
remote location as
niggas
niggins seen y'all niggins in 30 years
about me to keep trying to take
the way a nigger words some shit to make
it to go at a disin'nigger
because y'all have been
wanted
been hainner I don't know what the hell y'all
niggas motives be
it's almost done
y'n't be acting like y'all want to suck
dick
all the way to talk about another
nigga y'all bitch ass up
if I take my belt out of me
fuck
wrong child.
Everybody
tough now.
Fabio Foreign
shut your bitch ass up.
He really didn't like that.
Okay, you get the gist of it.
Sorry if that was a little long.
That was
Fabio Farm versus 21 Savage.
Ice, you said it started a little bit before then.
Started before that.
It started when the whole
fuck the streets thing, very, very first started.
And Fabio went on his Twitter
and responded to him.
Well, not responded, but he kind of directly
addressed it. He was just saying,
I can't get down with that fuck the street shit.
It basically afforded us too many opportunities.
A lot of shit came from the streets.
I would never turn my back and say fuck the streets.
So just so if you're wondering why he would even be asked that question by act,
it was from that tweet in response to it that he was kind of addressing.
They was trying to see what your issue was with him.
And Fabio has since responded to 21 Savage's clip there.
He put a little post up on Instagram.
I'm not going to read the whole post because it's very disrespectful.
But he says, I said what I said.
back and forth with a nigga who said fuck the streets
and invited them
to meet Frank and all the other shit.
All right.
Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill.
Yeah, let's hear it.
How do you feel?
This is the one thing they're not going to ask me about.
Where do you weigh in on this man?
I know.
The world really who cares.
But what I think on this.
My thought was, one, as soon as it started,
and I heard this, I was like,
I'm so tired of this conversation.
I'm so tired of this fuck the street's conversation
to who's street and who's not conversation.
Same.
Because we all wallowing in some bullshit.
I don't know who street or who not.
Everything I know about 21 Savage say he is,
who he says he is,
but I don't really care that much.
It just seems like an unnecessary conversation.
When you're doing an interview,
you could have just left that one alone.
You can't have to comment on him.
You can let it rock.
So I'm not mad at 21 for the way he responded.
I thought it was funny.
But I just wish the whole thing didn't happen
because it's stupid.
Agreed.
Yeah.
I agree.
I don't really care.
I mean, I know that's a hot,
fucking water cooler topic
out there
I don't care
who's street
and who not street
either who street
Olympics is
exhausted
to the dudes that's not street
get it how you live it
to the dudes that
our street
no concern to me
I'm gonna see you
niggas at a
steakhouse or somewhere
like I'm not gonna see y'all
at the fucking
duel
at the gun show
I've never seen something
that kind of has
like that's positive
in nature
gets such like a
like a negative backlash
it's like it
was positive. So it's like even if you don't
agree, I don't know why I'd
irritated so many niggas. Like, niggas seem
really pissed. Like, how
dare you say? It's like, wouldn't
that be something you want your son or your nephew
to hear? You know what I mean? I don't know.
I think that people took a lot
what he said the wrong way from the beginning
and the whole, they took it the wrong way anyway.
They did. So that's why I think a lot
of people were like angry about it.
But at the end of the day, for me,
none of you entertainer niggas is real street niggas.
Like, real street niggas wouldn't be famous.
rappers. So what the fuck are we talking about?
Don't even go together, you know? For the most part,
it is affiliation or with the nigger
next to you went through or whatever, so I don't
know, but it's just stupid.
And I don't know, I feel like,
Fabio always do a lie on Twitter.
Like, always.
Well, I mean, to answer your question,
Wassert, like, I'm going to read one of his
original tweets. He said, I could understand
saying fuck jail. Fuck crashing out over
dumb ass shit. Fucking pressing the niggas in the hood
that want to hold you back anyway. Fuck violence.
But it is something special about the
that you can't find nowhere else in the world.
I'm from New York and the streets is bad out here,
but it's a few good men I met in the streets
that I met that would be in my heart forever.
At the end of the day, I want to thank the streets for supporting me.
I want to thank the streets for teaching me how to survive
and how to thrive in the rooms that help change my life.
Yes, it is a bunch of negative, but everything has negatives.
So every time we see a thing we don't like or hear some shit,
we don't want to hear, we're going to say, fuck it.
No, I can't jack that.
I kind of get what he's saying, too.
I just think niggas is taking that whole fuck.
They're talking past each of them.
Yeah, they're taking his, what Savage was saying?
Savage was saying that.
Exactly.
It's the same.
Just in a catchphrase.
They were hung up on the word streets.
Right.
You're saying fuck the streets.
Not fuck the hood.
He's saying fuck all the negative shit that comes with the streets.
And you're saying, I want him to say fuck all the negative shit that comes with the streets.
He's responding like he said, fuck the ghetto.
Fuck the hood.
It's like, that's a different thing.
And then at the end of the day, like, oh, I want to, I have never in my life heard a street
niggas say, well, first of all, I want to thank the streets for, uh,
stab me in my back and taking my brother.
Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Like, if you, that's why the streets are something people survive.
It ain't something that you long for.
Yeah, like, what are you talking about?
And they could build character and it could build you up
based on the adversity that you had to face.
But that ain't nothing that you want for your children.
That ain't nothing that you want for nobody that you love.
So the point that hit me was when a nigga 21 was like,
yo, you niggas can't talk to me because y'all haven't cried enough.
That shit is deep because that shit is
taking our kids away
taking your brothers away
taking your family members away
that shit is real
and if you go through that enough times
you'd be like man fuck that shit
right you know what I'm saying
like I don't think it's nothing wrong
with what he said like
you go through that shit enough times
and you start hearing the old head
niggas talk about the cycle
of deception that the streets presents for us
that shit is valid
when they're, I'm talking about
niggas that was
gave their life to the shit
when they start saying
yo that shit is a farce
you got it
It's worth it.
You got something different.
So I ain't opposed to what he said.
And I like the OGs with that message.
Yeah.
I like the OGs giving the blunt and honest truth about all you endure when you are in the streets.
And at this point, Savage is an OG to the younger ones.
They look at him like that.
He's one of them.
So, yeah, you want to hear it from them.
You want to hear it from the ones that you're actually looking up to because the ones older than him, the younger niggas don't want to hear what you got to say.
Sure.
Right.
You need to hear it from your, the one.
We say all the time, even we talk about certain celebrities like,
if they had somebody that would just pull them to the side and talk to them,
it has to come from someone whose word matters to you.
And, and his, I'm sorry, but 21's word matter to these young niggas.
So to my own the point, I disagree and I always agree with Mona,
but it's some niggas that really was knee deep in the streets, bro.
And rap was the outlet to get away from the streets.
So I don't think that a nigger had to be telling a man story.
Some of these niggas is telling their own stories.
Some of these niggas really was.
outside going crazy
and
I've seen them do it
music
music saved them
you know what I'm saying
yeah
and something did
at the same time
I'm thinking like
a bunch of Philly rappers
and you think about
some of the niggas
made day transition
yeah
yeah
yeah
when I say that
it's not like I'm saying
nobody
but in the big
these entertainer
niggas are not
street like
it doesn't
it doesn't go together
but
this
this is stupid.
And it's like, it would be better
if they could say they don't have a conversation
but this is not how it's going to go.
Because the automatic thing is like,
why you're disrespecting me, I ain't even say nothing to you.
You know what I mean?
It's just silly shit.
I don't know who's street or who not,
but if you're listening,
I wouldn't just hop over the baby's fence.
Trying to look at them.
Hey, there's a few of these niggas
weird, you ain't got to know what they are.
You know the decision they will make
in the event,
you hop over their fence and they happen to be home.
Please son alone.
They're walking around with a 38.
Leave me alone.
Yeah.
See, that's what I heard.
Yeah, I heard that part too.
I heard that.
Hey, man, you diggers got.
Okay.
Fabio, though, recently,
he recently went online and was like,
yo, I'm checking myself into a program.
I'm going to get these drugs out my system to drink
and I'm going to get my thoughts right.
Some of these niggas, I don't need to be around,
just the negativity I'm off of that.
So, I mean, I think if he continues,
down that course, he'll eventually end up where 21 is in the mindset, is what I'm saying.
I hope so.
Sounds like everyone was saying the same shit just in different ways.
They said.
He just had them.
It's semantics.
Yeah.
It just I ain't like you saying streets.
Substitute it with something that I like and the whole message works.
Yeah.
Yeah, I get it.
Hey, prayers to all of you.
It's a blessing to be alive.
If you're good to wake up in the morning, I got to tell you.
I got to tell you it does.
It does.
Oh, man.
Look at me just filled with positivity today.
Why I'm feeling so good?
What's going on?
I got to check that.
It's that calm before the storm.
Yeah.
I got to look into my life.
No pun intended.
Got to be positive before we get trapped in the house for the next 48 hours.
People get positive when they get skinny.
He can look down, you know what I mean?
See that thing a little better.
I didn't take my shit this week.
I'm waiting for Keeno to walk in here.
Do you get like withdrawal?
I thought the Keno fucked it up last time.
You think he's going to do better.
You got it now, right?
You got it now.
right now.
He'll do right.
You can drop the turn again?
No, I haven't felt that yet.
The shit is still in there, but I was supposed to take it already.
Got you.
So you still don't have an appetite, none of that.
Zet Ging!
Oh, my God.
Yo, I got nervous when I ain't had no more in the crib.
Like, when you had no more cigarettes, that same feeling.
That same feeling, boy, no more Zah!
You had the itch.
I had to itch.
How long you'd be doing that shit for?
How long you'll be on that shit for?
Another month.
Oh, okay.
We'll see how I feel then.
You got me thinking about doing it.
My wife took my time.
That shit is great.
Why would you need it?
That shit is everything.
He's been in Tosa Locos for two weeks.
You're talking about why would he do it?
That's true.
He's getting the urge to go out and have a Bacardi.
That's what?
Midlife crisis shit.
Got you.
I did.
I was in the, um...
Get yourself together, man.
I was at my doctor's on Monday.
And I just was like, yo, I'm hearing all this shit.
What's your take on it?
Just making small talk.
Nah, I wanted to get some information.
I'm keeping it a buck.
So I asked her.
Even with the working out, I just asked her.
She was just like, nah, I don't know.
Because you got to keep doing it.
She was like, so no matter what.
Because I'm like, I'm working out.
I'm seeing changes, but I'm still not dropping to where I want to be.
All right.
You see, we got one of them.
He got one of them poor.
Or one that's the one that's, he doesn't want to get them addicted to sounds.
Yeah.
He got one of the doctors that's not part of the kickback program.
Yeah.
I'm not.
I'm not.
You know, the fans think you're already doing it.
I don't care what they do.
There was a whole group thing about it.
We just going to pretend he's not getting smaller.
I'm like, the niggas working out.
I'm working out constantly.
Eddie, he's better.
You do.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We can totally see the difference.
Thank you.
Appreciate that.
Now your counterpart over there.
We'll get it together, yes.
This is a good, too.
What's what I'm talking about?
I ain't even, I'm not like you.
Come on.
Play back with me.
I'm good, bro.
His crown sword.
Play back with me to the.
I'm good, bro.
Oh yeah, you can't talk.
That niggum mouth.
That niggum mouth is going through it over there.
He can't even laugh.
I'm not like you.
I'm not like you.
I don't talk my gun away, bro.
I don't want no smoke.
All right, fine.
Then I have to do the ad.
If you don't want to play, I'll do that.
All right, now it's time for my favorite part of the show.
Price Fix.
And I want to give right to it.
but my good brother is sitting here
mouth and pain, boy.
Sacrifice.
Damn, man. I would have called out, man.
Your goodwill and spirit
and just commitment to the gig.
That shit motivate me, bro.
I'm coming at nine next week, bro.
No, a nigga catch you in the club
with a smooth laugh. It's over.
Well, that's why he don't be in the clubs,
freeze. He don't go out to clubs.
He can go out.
He went out for his birthday.
He don't go out of him. I don't go out to clubs.
He went to some board. He went over there
where they're going to let them live.
How you know I don't go to clubs?
Because I'll be in clubs.
You don't?
I'd be in clubs.
It's a word that go in front of the clubs.
I'm being in clubs.
I'd be in clubs.
Not with dental work done either.
You got dental work.
Your whole mouth is done.
Oh, shit.
What we talk about?
I took one, though.
I took one.
I tested these.
I know?
What's your point?
I got snuffed.
You got snuffed with the veneers?
Yeah, I got snuffed with my veneers.
For a take, I said, trying to take the pod
to the next level, carrying niggas again.
Carrying niggas again.
I got punched in the face
because niggas wouldn't do a take.
No.
I'll take the part to the next level, man.
I get my life for this.
Did the veneers get loose?
Or they were just like,
oh, no, they were cool.
That's that porcelain word.
Not that composite bullshit.
We're having big issue.
You pay me what you make?
I'll take a couple punches.
Mm-hmm.
Oh.
Oh, all right, dude.
You can make what I made.
I get in there.
You can make what I make.
I get in there.
If you stop procrastinating, ain't.
I know.
You think you could do that?
You said carrying niggas.
I got punched because I was carrying these dicks across the finish.
If you stop procrastinating, no, you can make what you think about that?
You can make what I make if you stop procrastinating is a lie.
No, it's not a lot.
It ain't a lie.
But that's why he get mad at me anytime I ask him, yo, man, why you won't like, because
he know I got a point.
I didn't say you don't.
But that's why he'd be like, yo, just shut the fuck up.
Don't talk about mom procrastination.
That is why he do it because he know I have a valid point.
I don't tell you to shut up neither.
No, I don't get it.
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
What are you talking about?
If you are more assertive and aggressive
in following...
Pursuing opportunities and stuff.
Yeah.
You could make more bra.
You are a natural potter.
Thank you.
Like, you are fucking a podcast.
And we'll do it for free if you give him
your phone number.
Well, I'll be on the phone with this nigga.
That's my point about him.
What?
I've been on the phone with this nigga.
His procrastination.
It's not a conversation.
It's more of a dissertation or a TED talk.
Oh, shit.
And sometimes he allows you to give opinion.
And you start.
You be on the phone running your...
Sometimes he let me say stuff.
But what did y'all be on the phone
talking about. You doing that again?
You still at it? What's y'all talk
about about about? That's my pod brother.
What you talk about, niggins? Yeah, we got
a lot in common, my nigga. We do.
Yeah, see, it's talk to people so much
he know what he has in common with them.
You don't even hear himself.
Because this nigga don't get into my calls.
That's what normal people do.
Dog food.
I don't want to get. None of that shit, you're talking about
this extra friendly shit. I've been on the phone with
ice, N-inch, and Mark.
The only motherfucker that don't answer my call since I got
This job is Joe Button.
I answer your call.
You was getting dick down in a waterbed
and had the creep to the bathroom.
Oh shit.
You was getting dick down with a waterbed that was on the floor
and you had to creep in the bathroom.
Never mind.
That's what happened when I was trying to talk to.
That's what I get.
That's what I get.
I don't want to talk to nobody with a nigger in the background,
naked.
He got the towel on.
Like he just did some work.
Joe Button on the phone.
I'm like, hey, Mona.
No.
Sorry.
That's not my, that's not how that goes.
Yeah.
Sorry, Mona's niece.
I don't know if you'd be known,
I'm gonna be getting dig down
on the waterbed that's on the floor.
She's what was going on.
I ain't got no damn waterbed.
She had to walk over to a bathroom
with towel in it.
Bad mouth.
The little small square towel, too,
the Nichita Tile.
That bed from nice.
That bed from my big towel,
he is full of shit,
that bed from night.
Mora back down,
quit your shit.
Like, she never gonna mention a phone again.
Mone and I'd not be trying
to play home boys.
She was fucking on the water bed.
And you look like you was into him.
You look like you was trying to show him who you work for.
Look, look, the boss calling.
That's exactly what I was doing.
Thanks for fucking it up.
It was like, give me a second.
Joe Buttons on the phone.
Joe, what is it?
Shout out the homeboy.
Damn, Joe, what?
Shout out of homeboy, man.
She had the four-by-fours.
You're an idiot, bro.
Ish, I'm going to call you later, man.
We're going to talk.
No, you're not.
I'm sure of that.
Yeah, that's not happening.
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Listen, if you're just now
joining us, severe
snowstorm coming to the south
and to the tri-state
area this weekend.
Most of y'all, some of y'all, you know what I mean?
Prepare, load the fridge up, buy your
toilet paper, buy your paper towels, bread, soup, sandwich, meat, whatever you buy out there.
Are there snowstorm rules that we need to announce to anybody out there?
Yeah, just be careful.
Oh, yeah, you shoot the club up now.
That's a burgo.
That's about to say, that's a burgo.
I was about saying, when you go by the water and toilet tissue, get a 12-pack, my nigga.
Nah, I know that show did you and your girl binge watching is good while you're under the blanket.
And you got the heat on so it's feeling toasty.
I've been preparing in that.
I'm not trying to watch nothing this week,
knowing that we're going to be sitting around watching the TV all fucking week.
Shoot some shit up, parks, man.
Stop playing, man.
Let them know what time it is.
Let them know what's really good.
It can happen to her.
And the rest of y'all, be careful.
You know, you meet a Saturday night at the spot.
She's not leaving for a couple days.
No new house guests.
You'll bring something home on a Saturday night in a snowstorm?
I'm telling them.
They can have something new.
Never the case.
That's how you tell them to be mine.
Never the case.
Don't do that.
That's crazy.
The horny will make a nigga bring something home.
Bring something home.
I could get out by the morning.
You look up as 10 inches of snow.
You can get out.
You're stuck with you.
You call that Uber.
They keep switching the driver.
Yeah.
If you just take another nap, now you fuck.
Bring something home, no.
But call over a single mother who's feeling lonely and desperate while she's in her house
and could track it back home when she's done.
No, no.
And baby daddy just took the kids for the weekend.
Yeah, she in there by herself, poor.
No son.
No dad.
Hey, you took the words on my fucking brain.
Ain't nobody, there's no dad coming to get no goddamn kids.
Nah, that's a blizzard.
Hell no, niggins don't come with the sun.
He damn brain coming in the blizzard.
Let's be realistic here.
That's true, too, ain't it?
My baby mom's called me to remind me my weekend was going on because it was snow.
I'm like, I know, nigger.
Just make sure.
She thought I had a trick up my sleeve.
No, that's you, Cynthia.
Cynthia, keep a trick, boy.
And we still got to talk about that little D.R trip.
Anyway.
Yo, if you think long enough, that's the problem with the snowstorm.
You're in there and your house thinking.
Thinking, yeah.
I do time.
You know how much shit I think of in the house?
Nick, I just Googled the other day.
Why is ducks in duck sauce?
That is an interesting question.
I asked it.
I'd be home just typing shit and think.
I wanted it to know.
And why is it called duck sauce then?
Because it's traditionally served on the duck.
with...
It's like barbecue sauce.
Doesn't have meat in it.
What about oyster sauce?
Wait, but that's a stupid name then.
That is a dumb name.
Why?
That's a dumb name.
To call it duck sauce
because it's served with duck.
It's the sauce you put on a duck.
So when you read barbecue sauce,
what do you call it?
Have we been putting on duck?
No, we don't do shit we're supposed to do.
Yo, you ain't start duck sauce.
They got duck in the Chinese restaurant.
They just don't serve it to y'all.
You ever walk in there, they're eating at their table?
It don't be the shit that's on the menu.
Thanks.
Oh, that's true.
They should be looking good.
They should be looking good.
They should be looking good.
Niggas out of the head on it.
Nigger, don't motherfucker get me chicken fried rice all the time.
I'd be on Googling shit.
And my barber came over the other day
and want to argue with me about how
New Jersey is horrible for entrepreneurs.
Saying that to me as he's cutting my hair
in New Jersey.
Up, up, up, up, up.
Hit the Google.
Hey, how's New Jersey where entrepreneurs?
Oh, mad entrepreneurs in New Jersey.
88,000.
But is it good for them?
Small business.
Then he switched it.
He pivoted.
He went to, well, black businesses.
Okay, well, let me type that in.
Oh, what do you know?
Jersey kicking ass there, too.
Jersey is good for entrepreneurs.
I don't know what the fuck he was talking about.
Then he switched it to barbershops.
All right, then, nigga.
I'm not talking to you, man.
Shit.
Very specific.
Wait, hold on, all the black barbers, I know.
I'm not sure that's true.
Right.
Kicking.
Yeah.
No, if you're a black barer, I can see you being mad in New Jersey.
Why?
I can see you being mad for sure because they're here.
And you know what they do.
I can see you be a man in New Jersey.
They took a woman.
They took over.
I can't.
Who?
Dominicans?
Dominicans.
Your barber's Dominican, right?
No, my barber's black.
Shout out to you.
And your barber's Asian, right?
Korean.
Yeah.
That's why your mustache be like that, nigga.
What's your excuse?
All the barbers is Asian or Dominican now.
The cheaper cuts.
The niggas was $75.
The Asians take 17.
How much you pay your Asian,
a hundred dollars?
Yeah.
Damn.
What's the Asian nigga you got?
Jackie Chan, nigga?
That's racist.
That's racist.
That's really racist.
I'm with you to Bruce Lee.
He got one of good agents.
You got a bad house prayer card?
That's with the tip or you give him $100,000 plus a tip?
Tip.
They're shaping him up with a string.
They wash it here?
Oh, shit.
Oh, that's good they watch him.
All right.
Now you're dragging it, nigga.
I hate one.
I didn't realize.
If you talk to him too long, you'll start lying.
They hate him.
If you talk to him too long, because he's a talker.
If you talk too long, he'll start lying.
Yeah.
They massage.
Just shut your ass up.
Listen, I didn't know that so many bar.
The barbershops don't wash hair.
I didn't know that was like a...
They don't do that.
So when you get in the barbershop and you go to the $10 barbara, guess what happens?
You out the chair in seven minutes and they're on to the next.
And then you go to the happy ending room.
The barbershop.
At the Asian barbershop.
Yo.
But that's not racist.
I said Jackie Chen.
No, that's very fucking racist.
At the Asian barbershop.
You all bugging.
In the same time, Jackie Chen is Asian.
Two for one, homeboy gets you right in the back.
Ew.
Ew.
Ew.
Ew.
Oh my God.
That's hilarious.
I'm still talking about these snowstorm rules,
but the young,
y'all talking about bringing people home
in the snowstorms.
That's crazy.
The young people ain't even fucking no more.
Yeah.
So the young people,
they're not drinking, they not fucking,
they not with marriage,
they're not with nothing.
They're not social.
They're fucking.
They're fucking.
They fall in love with who they love.
They're not having children.
They're having much less.
sex. They're not fucking. Why? Why? They're not fucking? Because they're online.
Yes. All day.
They're a lot less social
across the board. So they don't want no real world interaction. There's all
these pieces talking about how
nightlife, black nightlife in particular across the major cities
in the U.S. is dying rapidly because of the decline
and drinking the decline in... It's not that. That's a cop-out.
No, that's a piece. I think a lot of that should also
is broke. It's the
pricing that it costs to party in these major cities.
So when we was young, you could go in the spot for $20 and you dance and you met some
girls and you went to the bar.
What has happened is bottle culture has ruined nightlife in the major cities.
That's valid.
I think legalization of marijuana helps too.
No, I'm talking about even in the black clubs especially.
Yeah, these young kids is getting with their friends, they've been in a hallway, and that's the night.
Because they cannot afford to go to a spot.
If it's three dudes when we was young, three niggers.
$20 a head, you go on a club.
Now, if you go to a New York City club
and there's three men, they want you to buy a bottle.
B bottles be $700.
You're asking 22-year-old, 23-year-old niggas to go
on a $750 bottle?
Yeah, but these same young niggas, and that may be true to a point,
but these same young niggas are not going in the liquor stores
and purchasing liquor.
They're not with doing none of the social activities.
Liquor nightlife fucking.
They're still socializing with other, like you said,
they'll go smoke.
They'll go vape together.
They're just not drinking alcohol like that.
They got the headphones on with the vape.
Yeah.
They in college, fucking the girl that's going Uber herself over.
Exactly.
That's what we're saying.
They are fucking.
They just not drinking alcohol like that.
You know what?
They're responsible.
To what Ish was saying, I remember traveling to Atlanta for the first time
and they being like different lines and this line was VIP.
And that was like my first experience with that.
And even going into like the VIP.
section because I remember D4L
was out back then and we went to party with them
which was so corny but it's
like I remember thinking how that experience
was like well that's not what it's cracker to be like we did
the whole thing and it was new to us
but then now that's just what it is like everybody
has like the celebrity experience they walk
into your table they're bringing the bottles out with the sparklers
it's like it ain't even a nigga birthday
what the fuck of we celebrate it was in VIP
when D4 Life came there
bro I was in VIP with D4L
in 112 but they was probably played out
all right I remember going to cheat
A bottle of Great Goose was $150.
That was cool.
Nigger, now a bottle is $700 in New York.
That's a lot of fucking money.
My nigga for a 9 to 5,
but you're talking about a 23-year-old.
A 43-year-old Mike can't buy a $750 bottle.
But there ain't no spots other than the big New York clubs you could go to?
I'm asking you.
Yeah, but they low-key.
Like, you being in the white bars,
you could get fucked up and meet a baddie for $80.
I feel like the hood still got the bar experience.
I feel like they still got pot.
popping bars in the hood in certain areas,
but I do agree the club thing is, it's a ruin.
And I feel like me going out and dancing and partying,
that was so fun.
This is not the same.
Standing on the couch with the people you came with,
it's not the same as being in the club,
a new set of balls behind you,
you've been down, you get to dancing,
you know, that's how.
Because you would just be dancing
and you don't know who behind you.
You partying.
Like, that shit is over with.
When we party now, we party with the niggas in our section,
and we usually know who's in our section.
That shit corny.
These changed it.
I'm telling you.
These, right here.
Changed it.
Foles, yeah.
That changed.
Again, even all that club shit you said,
a nigga can't go to the club
and have a regular night because
nakes got their phone out.
Not just that, we got it.
You got to do it for the ground.
He don't get it because he's privileged.
Like, he'd be in his people's section.
Like, he don't understand what it's like
if you're not in a section.
You heard of them, right?
That's why.
That's why you don't go to,
that's why?
Because you wasn't accustomed to get in the section.
I don't go because I'm afraid, too.
I know.
You got to throw that in there, too.
No, but you go to the hood and strip clubs in the world.
You're not afraid.
And bust my gun too.
What gun?
Buck.
That's why you bring your loo.
And I don't do that anymore.
I changed.
I know.
She won the fight.
I know.
You said bust your gun, I immediately went here.
Yeah.
That went right over my head.
He went so well.
He could wear squishy pants.
Anywho, the Oscars, you guys.
Yes.
The Oscars.
The Oscars.
The Oscar Noms.
The Oscars.
Oscar nom. Let me hit the round of applause for sinners.
Sinners who broke the Oscar record with 16 nominations.
The old record was 14.
This is the most nominations ever to.
Keep that applause going, God, yeah.
Most nominations to ever occur and for a horror film at that.
So congratulations to Ryan Coogler, Michael B. Jordan.
But it's not just sinners, though.
Fucking my man, Del, Del, Del, Del.
Do Orlando.
Yes, yes, yes.
His first Oscar nomination.
Keep his applause going.
Yes, I hope he wins that.
His very first Oscar nomination, Tiana got won.
What Delo were you get nominated for?
Best supporting actor.
Sinners, stop playing with him.
Stop playing with him.
Cinnors, yeah, he did the damn thing.
I was really happy that, you know,
there's the saying that goes around and says
whatever the Golden Gloves do, typically the Oscars do.
Yeah.
This year it felt like the Oscars kind of saying,
nah, y'all shut the fuck up.
What do y'all know?
What do y'all know?
It felt like the Oscars sat around tired of hearing about wicked all year like me.
That wicked was not, that should not be in these conversations.
But it has been all year.
It has.
So I was happy to see that.
And I won't say happy because it's black greatness in that movie, too.
but the Oscars just seemed like they had a very different approach,
a different reverence, a different understanding for sinners and what they did.
Let me read off some of these.
Let's see.
We have Best Actor, Michael B. Jordan, Senors.
Best Supporting Actress, Tiana, one battle after another.
Best Supporting Actor, Delroy Lindo, Centers.
Best Supporting Actress, Wunmi Musaku, Sensors.
And Tiana.
Best director, best original screenplay, Ryan Coogler.
Best costume design, Ruth E. Carter, who now has the most Oscar nominations for a black woman ever.
Amazing.
Because she did costume design for Malcolm X.
She did costume design for Amistad, both Black Panthers and now sinners.
Congratulations to her, Ruthie Carter.
Best original song, Raphael Sadiq.
Rapiel Sadiq for sinners, I love.
to you best production design
Hannah Beechler, Senors, Best Documentary
Feature.
Nikon Kwanthu, the Perfect Neighbor,
Best makeup and hairstyling.
Shinika Terry, Senters.
Best documentary short film.
Crystal in Hampton, the devil is busy.
So a lot of black shit.
A whole lot of black shit at the Oscars.
Really happy about that.
Go Oscars.
The Oscars is soon, right?
It's a March, yeah.
Most of March.
Oh, wow, that's a while.
That's a while.
Yeah.
The Oscars are in March.
The Grammys are next week.
Grammys are.
Yeah.
March 15th is the Oscars.
And the Grammys are when?
And Conan O'Brien's hosting?
Grammys next week.
And I want to say Trevor Noah is hosting the Grammys.
Yes.
Again, for the sixth years in a row.
He's great.
Actor in a leading role.
Nominees, Timothy Shalamay, Marty Supreme.
Leonardo DiCaprio, one battle after another.
Ethan Hawk for Blue Moon.
Michael B. Jordan for Senator.
and Wagner Mora for the Secret Agent.
I didn't see Blue Moon or Secret Agent,
but I like Michael B. Jordan in this.
I watched Marty Supreme.
It was a great movie.
Timothy Chamoulet was great,
but I feel like he kind of played the same role
he did in the Bob Dylan, which biopic,
which was also good.
But I think Michael B. Jordan stepped out of himself
for this in a different way.
It was the best role ever, too.
And played three roles.
Yeah, that too.
He played three roles, man.
Actor in Supporting Roe, nominees,
Benincio del Toro, one battle after another.
Jacob El L.R. D. L.R. D.
If I'm fucking up your name, I apologize.
That's for Frankenstein.
He was really good name.
Frankenstein did really well this year as well.
Del Rilendo centers, Sean Penn one battle after another.
Stellen Scars Guard for sentimental value.
Actress in a supporting role.
El Fanning, sentimental value.
Inga is daughter Lilius.
I'm sure I'll jack that name up.
Sentimental Value.
I just go through the movies.
Amy Madigan from weapons,
Juan Muamu Saga for sinners,
Tiana Taylor, one battle after another.
Directors, we have
for the movies, Hamnet, Marty Supreme,
one battle after another sentimental value and sinners.
Listen, it's a whole lot of black sheep.
What do we think?
The thing with Spanow, how do we feel?
What do we think?
Congratulations to Ryan Coogler and Michael B. Jordan.
I could not be happier for you guys.
I'm excited for nominations,
but as they say,
as many a slip between the cup and the lip,
I need to see.
That was an issue.
That was definitely some shit.
My grandma used to say she was
A slave. A mini is slip between the cup and her lips.
So between you lifting the cup up to drink, mad shit could go wrong.
So you got all these nominations.
We want to see some awards being given me.
I get it.
Just trying to attract a younger demo.
That's all.
That's all we're trying to do.
We sleep out of that 80-year-old plus demo.
Yeah, we got them down.
That 80-year-old plus demo sleep right now.
but I totally get it
is this the big letdown
is this that thing that
they do where
they give you all the nominations
get you all excited
get your viewership
get your audience
get you where they want you
only to let you down
what would be considered
a letdown
yeah I think yes enough
because that's what I'm saying
like is it if they don't win
not when it's 16
then you're going to probably be let down
not one in 16
I think that they should
then they can and should win a lot of them,
especially anything relating to the aesthetics of the movie.
Cinematography,
yeah, cinematography, costume design,
all that shit was absolutely amazing.
I think Michael V. Jordan should win.
Yeah, score.
Anything from that level, they should win.
If centers wins three.
Score they're having a bad.
Costum design, I think they're having a bag.
I'm sorry, Mark.
To answer your question,
ICE, I want to say nine out of 16, if I'm being realistic.
At least eight.
If they hit those, but if they lose the best actor,
best movie best like the major ones are you still let down i'll be let down but i think this is
the beginning of michael b jordan and ryan cougar i was about to say dog i think that um
this is unfortunate and i don't mean it in this way i think that when you start talking about progress
small steps toward progress matter so i think if they go in there and they went four or five
the fact that they got nominated for 16 speaks volumes i'm not saying that you know what i mean
we got to go to the back of the bus
and now the middle of the bus is cool.
I'm just saying that
the acknowledgement means something
because we haven't been being acknowledged
for a long time.
I just hope it's the right four or five.
I agree with you.
I just hope it's the right four or five.
Because if it is score,
by the way, all these categories matter.
I'm not disrespecting any vice craft
because I think making a great score
or making costumes is incredibly important.
Incredibly important.
I'm just saying in terms of the prestige
and where voters often put their weight,
you know, if they don't win any of the actor awards,
but they win all the other awards,
I feel like that's going to be a pat on the head.
And that's going to disappoint me.
It's not going to disappoint me because I don't expect much.
I think it'll be unfair.
I'll be frustrated by it.
I expect the Oscars to screw us over.
So that's why I'm not going to be disappointed.
That's kind of where I was at.
Don't give us all these nominations,
but we don't get movie, actor, actors.
You need something out of there.
We could soften a blow by giving some of the other black people
and the other films awards.
So you can't say we was on our racial shit
because we gave this black person over here at war.
We get this black person over here in the war.
We gave this black person over here in the war.
But sinners only got four.
You know what I mean?
Like you can't.
Yeah, exactly.
And sinners is a particular type of movie.
So even if you give it to a different black movie or different black,
it's something about this movie in terms of its messaging,
its power.
If it doesn't get it.
Oh, it's black out.
Yeah.
It's not just a movie with black people in it.
It's a black movie.
See, that part shocks me.
Like, because of all that messaging in the movie,
like, I mean, they killed Klaman at the end of the movie.
the movie.
You know what I'm saying?
Just for it to be not like, well, let's say it's some people living under a rock that has
not heard of sinners.
And, you know, you get your, oh, well, what's the, you know how sometimes we'll see certain
movies listed in the Golden Gloves of Grimson.
For sure.
I'm going to go check that.
Let me go look.
Like, the fact that you're putting the movie up that high, you're open a lot of eyes
to the movie anyway.
For sure.
So, yeah, maybe they get it right.
I mean, and the people spoke as far as sinners went.
That's a fact.
In spite of what that variety article said at the time.
That is a fact.
Like, the people got up and went out to theaters to support this movie.
And it was one of the better movies I've seen all year.
Yeah, it was still a end of the true movie.
Yeah.
It was.
It's not just something that's being driven off of a hype and social media buzz.
It was a good movie.
It was original.
They delivered.
Raphael Sadieck would have to win that musical war.
Like, there's some of these awards that you, it'll be an indictment against you if they don't win it.
I think they know it
They're tired of that
Oscars be comfortable
Yeah they'd be comfortable
Say fuck off
Remember Oscar so white?
Yeah but I think this is
This could be the aftermath of that
We don't want another one of those
I hope so
But there's some institutions
That respond to this
The Academy oftentimes does not get it
They would be like y'all just didn't get it
Y'all just missed it
Or we haven't necessarily seen
50 movies
Like it could be a score somewhere over there
That's amazing
We just don't know
Nothing about fucking Tommy takes.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, we just don't know.
So.
Then it wasn't that amazing.
Cream rise to the top.
Somebody would have said something.
Somebody would have said.
They should go to Dunkin' Donuts.
They checked the music over there.
Hey, check this out for the music.
While somebody that did this is really amazing and talented,
I just think we would have heard something, something.
But we'll see.
We'll see.
I'll leave this up to the experts.
The black guy that wants something for the perfect neighbor.
What was that?
Best Document tour or something?
That's what it was.
That's a really good documentary.
The perfect neighbor.
Is it?
I need to see it.
That's when I was shot with the cameras, right?
Right.
Oh, that was amazing.
It's only from Body Camp.
They don't use anything but Body Cam.
It's so good.
Oh, I saw this.
It's about the white older lady that killed her neighbor that was like a mom of three or four.
She had been beefing with the neighbors and all the kids all year.
And yeah, that's a real good documentary.
I was waiting.
Somebody came here and talked about it.
I did.
That shit was amazing.
Yeah, it was really, really.
I mean, it's heartbreaking, but amazing.
Right, exactly.
It was a mix, but it was good.
If I can say.
If you don't save anybody 999 or 1995
or whatever a movie ticket cost today,
I did make an appointment at 10 p.m. last night
to go see a bad movie.
What was this?
Anaconda?
No.
Okay.
And boy, there are some really bad movies out there.
No.
Okay.
And boy, there are we doing.
The evil monkey's back?
No.
No, I didn't do that.
That's not Ben.
I went to see the new Chris Pratt movie called Mercy.
Why did you do that?
There's a new Chris Pratt movie called Mercy that when you watch the trailer,
it looks like they were trying to do today's version of Minority Report.
Minority Report is one of my favorite movies of all time.
So I did go to see it.
I was bored.
I had nothing else to do.
And I wanted some popcorn.
Boy, this was one of the worst movies I saw.
I walked right out of there in about 45 minutes.
I just looked at the cover of it and I'm like, I would not go.
Well, the movie, but the movie's about Chris Pratt.
is there's a new program called Mercy that the people voted that.
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
And that is the new law system.
So they sit you in a chair.
You're guilty until you're found proven innocent.
They allow you or you to hook up to the I-Cloud system
where everybody's phone is on this eye cloud and you have to defend your case.
15 minutes or 20 minutes.
90 minutes.
So Chris Pratt sits in a chair for 90 minutes going through his girl's eye cloud
trying to figure out, trying to convince the judge why he's innocent.
This sounds like some bullshit.
Nah, the concept wasn't bad.
The concept, if they had really tried to make a movie out of it,
sounded like it could have went somewhere.
The execution of it, it looked cheap, it looked CGI,
it looked very poorly written and done.
It was just, I lasted 40 minutes, 45 minutes before I walked out,
and that's because I took a nap.
But you should have saw Marty Supreme.
It was good.
But the movie was an hour.
I do want to see Marty.
I mean, the movie's an hour and 40, so you left an hour on the table.
That shit might, because conceptually, I know,
what he talking about, like you got access to every camera.
He's sold.
No, conceptually, I was sold.
That shit was, it looked crazy.
It looked like myradority.
Minority Report 2.0.
That's what they're like.
24 rating of Rotten Tomatoes.
I know that the people out there don't really trust my movie recommendations or non-recommendations,
but it was really, really bad.
The Roddum says 24 out of 100.
No, they got creamed on all of the fucking movie apps.
It sounded like some bullshit.
What else?
What else needs our attention?
Come on.
Let's get to it.
Can we talk about Drake?
for a hot second.
Drake was, you know, in the news a couple months ago
for the UMG decision.
It was dismissed out of hand by the judge.
He's filed an appeal.
A very long appeal.
I think 50 or 60 pages long.
And I actually think he's on to something.
He's going to lose again.
But I think he's on to something.
I don't think Drake is wrong here.
Basically what Drake said is the court,
or his lawyer said that the court dismissed
the suit out of hand.
as non- actionable
by virtue of being song lyrics.
In other words, the court said,
you can't sue somebody for defamation
because they're song lyrics.
Drake's team is saying
that is a dangerous precedent
you're saying,
to say that something by definition,
just as such, cannot be used
because it's a song lyric.
He's saying at times where that could be the case
and the court has a responsibility
to look at the case
because otherwise, nobody could ever sue for defamation
because of a...
because of a song lyric.
And I think Drake's team is right.
He's right.
I don't think that this particular lawsuit
is defamation.
I don't.
That's up for debate by people,
but I don't.
But I do think that there are situations
where somebody could make a song
that would be defamation.
And I think that the court should look at it.
So I think Drake may,
he could have some success
at least getting to trial,
even if he ultimately loses.
And it's a slippery slope
because if you can sue somebody
for a song lyric,
then what separates that from them
jumping on the internet
and trashing you on the internet
or any other type of publication?
it's going to set a precedent there.
Well, that precedent is not the same
as the song lyric precedent,
which is not the same for media people
using the internet precedent.
That's why all these things are.
But media gets a pass, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Media gets a pass.
Media.
I think that it's stupid as fuck.
And then that whole set of president thing
is like precedent thing.
It's like now everybody going to want to,
you know what I mean, sue about a song.
It's just whack.
I'm a rap lover, hip-hop lover.
That's fucking corny.
Even if he has grounds for why he wanted to sue,
in this situation, the whole response from the legal team just opens up for everybody else
to do it too.
That shit's wacky.
Everybody can't.
But how are we going to have good battles if you can sue at the end?
See, I agree with you most of the time.
I think you should be able to talk shit, be hyperbolic, all that in rap lyrics.
You should be able to do all of that, right?
Like, I never thought, you know, when I was like, you know, talking about Jay Z and Ether,
I didn't believe what he was saying in there.
It wasn't defamation to me.
Is it in your baby seat part?
Oh, that's a good example, right?
So I threw condoms on your babies.
Yeah, through condoms on your beach.
Through condoms on your babysit.
Excuse me.
I don't know who did what.
I don't know who baby seat got skeeted on.
I don't think there should be a lawsuit about it, right?
Because it's a battle.
But I think there could be circumstances where it does go too far,
very narrow, limited circumstances,
and I just want to create room for that.
I think about, like, for example,
like when people do monologues at the end of rap songs.
I'm thinking about what Tupac did at the end,
he'll hit him up, for example.
When he's just talking, right?
What if he was like, yeah,
on January 7th, 1992, you, you know,
you broke in my house and shot my whole family and blah, blah, blah.
If people could legitimately believe that what you're saying is true.
So let me...
I could see a situation.
One that comes in mind talking at the end is 50 talking a job
where he says, I know the style of she was fucking.
I paid on 50,000.
Boom.
Right?
So you're saying that could be defamation.
I'm saying I could see a situation where a person could be persuaded to believe that that's not just music talking.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, again, I'm not saying...
that it should be used often.
I just don't like the idea of saying anything
that's when the song goes without any
limitations. That scares me a little bit.
This case
for reasons outside of what Drake is stating
is unprecedented
because I don't think in any other hip-hop beef
can't a rapper claim as much damage
as Drake can claim from this one.
Jaru would be
the closest. Jou would be closest
but...
And it still fails in comparison.
Objectively, I think it fails in comparison.
One, Javu's second.
Two, if you don't think it pales in comparison,
that can be attributed to many other things.
It could be attributed to the court case that they were fighting.
The feds running up in there,
Def Jam, pulling support.
You can't just say all of these losses
are specifically tied to what 50 Cent is doing.
Drake probably can.
Drake's shit, I think, is more quantifiable.
A lot of his business and public perception and the view of things and his prices.
A lot probably changed after that.
I agree.
There's another piece to this that I just hit me as you just made that point.
Rap battles today are very different than rap battles during like the Bridge Wars or something,
where you just made music.
You ain't have brand deals.
You ain't have shit that was riding on.
Yes, that's true.
I'm talking about in terms of how people communicate.
50's been in battles where he didn't put a,
song on wax. What if I defame you on a podcast and on an Instagram, I make up all these
lies which do fit the standard for defamation? And then I make a song about it. And the song
gets heard by 50 million people. You get what I'm saying? So for example, hypothetically, this did not
happen, to be clear, if Kendrick had done a press release and given a press conference and
tweeted that Drake was a pedophile and then made Not Like Us, not like us, not like us, still
would have been a huge song, that would have impacted him severely. And because the rap battles don't
stay just on the musical realm and they often go into blogs,
you know, you go, you know, tweets, TikTok.
I think it gets messier and more confusing in today.
I'm not saying that Drake doesn't have a point in what he's doing.
Yeah.
Like, I'm not saying that.
I was never saying that.
I'm saying a few things.
One, when you enter a battle that is kind of a, well, I'm talking about how it's perceived.
It's kind of an enter at your own risk type of thing.
thing. Like before that
battle started, I came on the air, I said
potentially one of these people will
never be looked at the same after this.
Definitely said that. Yes. Yeah,
it sounded like a lot, but
I mean, I had a healthy amount of respect
for the brothers involved. So, and sure
enough, one person was never
looked at the same, but
you taunted him and you
provoked him and you asked him to come out
this brother that we normally know to be so quiet.
So some of that is
enter at your own risk for me. Two,
Everybody can't sue.
Everybody ain't going to sue back to a moment.
Suing is like a privileged type of thing.
And when you lose and continue to use the judicial system
to try to hammer home a point, it does come off away.
Yes.
Like my only point is for how he comes off.
Not in what he's doing.
I can't even say I wouldn't do the same thing.
I've had all the money in the world and all the time in the world.
You wouldn't.
But I get what you said.
I don't think he can.
Why don't because I'm going to rely on my right?
rap shit. If I enter the battle and we're on
some rap shit and you got the upper hand and I'm
on some rap shit and I'll just take my loss. I'll take my ball
and go home. I think he's fighting
a different fight. Me personally, I think
he just fighting. I think he, this
shit is past rap. I really, really
honestly think he just won out his Universal
deal. That's what I really think.
And I think that he is just using this as a
catalyst to get that accomplished. I think
that, because again, he ain't suing
Kendrick. He's suing Universal and I
just think he don't want nothing to do with them niggas.
I think that his level of success and
money and access has shown him something that most people don't even get to see.
Like you're saying, you suing is a privileged game.
If you got enough money and your family got enough money to sue a motherfucker,
you could make some change.
When the cops whip somebody eyes in Newark, they don't have no money to sue.
You whip some black person eyes in Livingston or Shore Hills.
Their parents are going to sue you.
It's going to get all the media attention in the world.
And now you can make some change.
My only thing about what you're saying is, and again, I'm on optics.
If he won against UMG, I would put all my poker chips to the table that he would.
would sue Kendrick next.
I also would be worried about this.
And then I would judge that.
I don't think he would, but I would judge that.
And I think, I think.
But why would you judge it?
Because.
For all of those things.
Because, nigger, it's like suing somebody that you told come outside and get a fair
when now you'll sue them for assault.
That's some sucker shit.
What if you asked about for a fair when they put out a gun and shoot you?
Because that's Drake's argument is that you went beyond the rules of the battle.
But that's not his argument.
No, no.
No.
And one of the dismissals before had highlighted what he said until I made.
where he said talk about him like in young girls
I got it on you know it got to be true
like you said this
you put that out there for him to say
also he defamed Kendrick by accusing
him of domestic violence
and a bunch of other shit too but that's why
I would be more worried about this case
back to your precedent thing
in the in the lyrics and court situation
because if now there's facts and raps
that might be across the board
now everything is a fact in rap
or suable or actionable and I don't like that's
if that's the fucking
That's why my brain went at first.
Yeah.
Like, yo, yo, dog, the people could pick and choose when they want to allow lyrics to be admissible, right?
And the damage.
Because when these little niggas is running around talking about shooting people, the white people or the court want to now allow those lyrics to be evidence in court.
I've got to say, though.
The older I get.
The older I get.
But now when drink has...
I feel a lot of sympathetic to the rapper that says, and then I killed him on July 7th at noon or 52nd Street.
And then it turns out that's what the body was.
I don't think it should be used.
I'm what you there, but then what if you also get
Drake talking gangster shit in his rap?
So they're like, well, maybe that's real too.
That was my very next point, which is the other reason why
Opti, I don't love none of the Drake lawsuit shit
is because he get on them records and starts spilling.
Like when he's not playing the legal game,
he get on them records and say, we're sliding you, yo.
Didn't they just shoot your house up, shut the fuck up?
Bitch ass nigger, yo, I'll buy tickets to your show,
get you killed, yo.
It's mob ties over here.
Like he, and that's the thing.
It gets into the whole historical thing of the Oreo kid that can bounce back and forth.
Like, and I think that's the part that hurts him the most in this is that's what not like us was about.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I agree on a person.
So your behavior as it continues, even as we don't forgot about it, you finally listened to people, you went and laid low.
Like, you're chilling.
Niggas just one ice man.
That's it.
you should probably change the name of that
with all the shit going on
but that's what niggas want.
Anything else is a deterrent
from that but he got the money
in the time so please by all means have had it.
That's what I'm trying to separate
just in my last point
to separate my hip-hop feelings
from my other feeling
as a hip-hop head
and just as somebody who cares about art
I don't ever want art to be criminalized
or used or I don't ever want
to restrict the possibilities
of what an artist could do.
I just thought there's just a small part of me
that could see shit getting
crazy and crazier in the 21st century
with how we mix fact and real.
We do it with news, we do everything.
It's hard to know what's real and what's not.
And I can see somebody's life, not Drake,
but somebody's life really be destroyed
for some shit and then using music as a cover for
or art as a cover for it.
And it's just scares.
I'm not saying this is the solution,
but I'm very scared of that.
That's all.
I can dig it, but it's a very, very slippery
slipper.
It's super slippery.
You're right.
Does anyone here think that he'll win the appeal?
No.
No?
Yes.
I think he might.
I think you'll get
to a point where they just go on part ways.
And I think that's his overall objective.
But to be clear, winning the appeal means it not being dismissed.
I think they may, because they dismissed it without even...
Yeah, he'll go to trial.
I think he'll win that battle because of the argument they're making it.
And then lose in the next step.
Yeah.
That's my suspicion.
I'm not mad at that.
Yeah.
I'm not mad at that.
All right, what else?
What else needs our attention?
Well, we talked about the Oscars coming up.
We got the Grammys coming.
They announced the performers.
Some of them.
Some of them.
Who we got, who's performing?
We got Clipson Farrell performing.
Yes, no surprise.
No surprise.
We got Leon Thomas for your show.
It's going to be,
Olivia Dean.
I'm a huge fan.
I'm in, I'm in.
My brother.
Yeah.
Man, that Olivia Dean.
Finally, fucking A.
It's crazy.
And I believe we haven't.
No, she's a star, bro.
Did we talk about that?
Me and Marker.
I made it my, I actually made it my sleeper when y'all clout me.
And then eventually, y'all have come around.
And that's the thing.
That wasn't a sleeper type of.
thing. It wasn't a sleeper type of thing.
I'm so glad that Park said, yo, but I just...
Oh, I bought it and put it on.
No, she's a star. She's amazing. She's a star.
And her first album, though, too. Yes.
Oh, Zia, I don't know. Yeah. Like, she's...
This album, no. It's incredible. She up there.
Fire. Yeah.
I need to get into, like, the credits, and who participated, who wrote, who produced, like, this whole...
I think that she writes all the old shit.
She's like some Gnard Jones shit, like writing it and...
Zee-la-da-da-ha. That shit is groovy.
It's amazing.
That shit is fun.
Amazing.
Vibrant.
I think I voted for her for Best New Artist and I hope she wouldn't.
She, her album being so good is fucking up my Grammy prediction.
Yo, fam.
Yeah.
I know niggas from out of state.
She, they did the garden.
And niggas was calling me like, yo, could you pull some strings to get tickets?
I'm like, that ain't my bag.
Like, I know.
Tell them niggas get money, yo.
Stop calling you for everything.
I'm not letting you do it today.
Come on.
It's good.
I'm good.
Why broke nags calling you, man?
Like, yo, no.
She was selling out everywhere.
That Olivia Dean album is incredible.
Yes, it is.
Hey, and it answers some of my question as to why some of my favorite R&B
bitches wasn't coming out.
Oh, yeah, she backed some people down.
Yeah, yeah.
No, that answered it.
Yeah.
That answered it.
I'm like, oh, yes, I would do the same.
Wait for this little speeding, hot, piping, hot train.
Get out to slow down.
because this girl is young.
Yeah.
When she first came out,
this girl is young, new, hot.
She's 26.
Her first album was
20, 23.
You got to watch
when these young motherfuckers come out
and you could tell
that they have fresh ideas.
I mean,
it's not even like,
it's just,
she's really,
I don't necessarily look at
as like revolutionary
new music.
It's just really fucking good.
It's refreshing.
The song writing is great.
The music,
production is great.
It's just great.
That little British accent
helps a little bit too.
Oh,
it does something for me.
musically.
Yeah.
All the music.
She's also a beautiful, beautiful girl.
I can't see it.
Yeah, but she reminds me when one of them dropped,
one of them Nora Jones or a fucking Avril or what's that a little white girl.
It's more snowish to me than that.
It's more to know a legger, but I was never going to say that.
Oh, I was never going to say what you just said.
Why?
Why y'all said that?
I said that, yeah.
That's all I'm talking about.
No, that's what I'm talking about.
I salute snow.
I think Snow was doing the right thing.
Yeah.
Snow's amazing too.
She's amazing.
The Nora Jones comparison I would make in May earlier
was just in terms of I think she's going to catch.
You know I'm like Nora Jones's first Grammys.
She just bodied everything.
Don't know why I won everything.
That whole album, which is a,
name of the perfect album.
Yeah, it was.
Won everything.
I think she's going to have that kind of success.
Is she performing at the Grammy?
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
She's in the...
Oh, fuck.
She's doing the background work too.
Look, she's doing the best new artist segment.
You know, they do the medley of all artists.
Yeah.
So it's Addison Ray, Alex Warren,
and Cat's side, Leon Thomas, Lola Young, Olivia Dean, Sombor, and the Marias.
Yeah, they can fall back.
That's my favorite segment out of all the award shows.
The last couple years, it's been amazing.
In recent years.
So what's the girl that killed last year or two years ago?
I need more than that.
The new chick.
Come on taboo.
Come on.
The one you kept making jokes about it.
Oh, I know you're talking about it.
The one that had the earring in her.
You know, it was a white girl that killed.
Oh, Billy Islandish?
No, no, no, no.
Chaperone.
She going to do that.
Chaparone didn't clean up.
Yeah, she did.
I don't remember cleaning up.
Yeah, she cleaned it.
It was a couple years ago.
And you came in here cracking jokes.
You came in at cracking jokes because we didn't know who she was.
But she bodyed the speech is where she body.
And she killed.
But when she bodied the speech,
it's not when she cleaned up.
It was the same year, I think.
Okay.
So I think she won Best New Artist that year.
If I recall correctly.
She got Best New Artist.
Okay.
Then I'm mistaken.
Yeah, it's Olivia's here.
Olivia performing.
Yeah, that was last year.
Leon performing and Clips performing means I should leave the Grammys happy
and all the people that I think should win will win.
Something.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so.
Okay.
And I'm excited to see Trevor Noah.
I'm excited to just see artists.
And like you just said, they're getting their black viewership back.
Like when you start highlighting the clips are going to perform with Farrell,
when you start highlighting Leon Thomas, it's going to now bring some of the diversity back to the viewership, in my opinion.
You know, black's kind of boycotting them niggas.
Unless it's us, you got to watch it for work.
But a lot of people don't be fucking with the Grammys like that.
No, no, they've been doing pretty good in recent years.
One year.
They got a lot better. They got a lot better than the whole weekend.
Ever since that whole weekend versus the Grammys thing, it seems like if they've picked it up.
And they fired everybody.
Yeah, yeah.
When dude, it's like, y'all, we've got to step your game up.
That was crazy.
And I ain't going to hold you.
And it's back to the young niggas not fucking no more.
What a good time to be single if you're just thinking about it, right?
You got football all weekend.
Fuck these holes.
Next weekend, you get to be the whole thing.
out watching the Grammys. Weekend after that
you get whatever you get All-Star Week
February
outside of Valentine's Day
good time to be by yourself, you and your
dick beaters, man. Like what?
Valentine's Day might not be the worst day to be saved.
Save a lot of money. Actually, that's a real good time.
Real good time to be single. Have you
all started working on your Valentine's Day
gifts? Let me tell mine now, if you listen,
nada. Sporty, sporty thieves.
I started working on working on it. Sporty thieves.
Hey, let me cue it up.
The fish don't believe me. Let me cue it up.
Your mouth say one thing.
The word.
We'll watch her story.
Amex say something different.
We'll see it on her gram, big dog.
We hear you.
I'm excited to see it.
He was talking all heavy and then you look on the Monday after.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, you know, every sporty thieves song is about the same thing.
They got more than one song.
Wow.
I'm playing.
I have the album.
I have the album.
I got the album.
I have the album.
I have the album.
Well, they have this and they have not out.
They do have another song
That came in a little
Blue brand new spark to fly
A feet hurt so you know she wants to ride
But she's front like she can't say hi
What?
Uh-oh
Y'all chicks ain't getting out of
That was a time
He said sordy thieves
I'm like
Not even a dollar
That's crazy
Yeah you ain't getting nada
From us
From us
Toom dom doom
You don't know that song right
Not even a dollar
The all her mark know is
Yeah that's us
Wow
I know that shit was a hit.
Fuck y'all.
Yeah, that's a tough.
Yeah, it was.
Yeah, it was triple platinum in the tri-state.
No, that was my shit.
That shit went dominant.
You jersey niggas was bopping two or two.
Yo, congratulations.
Joel Embed is looking amazing.
The Sixers look amazing.
I know me and you might have had a better
to start this season.
We didn't this time.
I was talking a lot of shit.
I told you we're going to be fine if we helped.
But you guys, you got to feel good about where you stand as a
basketball team in the city, I also wanted to ask you to guys.
What do y'all think about the slavery exhibits that are being removed from Philadelphia's
Independence National Historic Park?
I wanted to ask the two Black Panthers on the show.
We're suing.
Like, what's going on in Philadelphia?
Being that Philadelphia don't take no bullshit.
We're suing.
Like, I thought Philly was like a pro-black.
Like, look at.
This is Donald Trump shit.
This is direct orders.
Donald Trump.
The whole thing is like, we're going to erase everything that happened and we're not going to
focus on the past.
But they came to Philadelphia with that bullshit.
And we're suing.
We're going to sue ice
Our sheriff
Stood a total total of ice
We sue in the government
For these statues
And these removals
That's what we do
We resist man
Yeah we ain't one of
We ain't no nought
A city
You can't just come to Philly
Doing what the fuck you want
Yeah no you can't do that
All right
And here's our Philly report
Question
That's it
Circling back to this
Valentine's thing
Because
I got tickets to new edition
The night before
Isn't that enough
No
New Edition Boys Demand?
It might be
Y'all was so gassed
about that concert
Parks got to not be in these talks because he's playing from a different game.
I'm trying to play Parks game.
I think if you combine it with some romantic things.
You can't.
Hey, let me help you out.
Nobody in this room can play that Parks game at all.
And I'm not talking about the white game.
No, at all.
The other game is playing.
I think he's going to play that game.
No, I can't.
Oh, you don't know.
I can't play that game.
What's the fucking game?
Ice can't play that game.
I can't play the game.
Parks' his wife pays half the rent.
She doesn't pay half the rent.
or she pays rent, she pays half of bills,
or she contributes money.
A significant portion.
No, it's his business to tell.
I don't, I'll keep it on a low.
Three million times.
His wife, like, she don't know what he makes.
What?
Like, he got a really good situation going on over there.
He doesn't.
Look, that's crazy.
He has no idea what he makes.
I think Ish could play the same games.
I think he does play the same games.
He can't and he don't.
He can't and he don't.
Yeah, Tadio little shoes up.
He don't believe at Valentine's Day.
He plays even harder ball than I do.
On air.
Ice and Ish pay for a lot more shit
than they bring to the air.
Who said that?
And the streets be telling me.
Who said otherwise? The streets.
The streets be telling them.
I never said.
You could smell it on ice.
So tell Park since he thinks he's going to ask it with it.
Remember Christmas?
I pay my mortgage.
But what are you doing for Valentine's Day?
Nothing.
See?
Wait a minute.
Whoa.
No, I ain't doing nothing either.
I don't.
You're a liar.
You're a liar.
I'm so confused.
What's going on?
So you're not doing enough of Valentine's Day
because she don't want nothing
or that's something you all agree?
We just don't do it.
When I first met my girl, yeah,
I don't do Valentine's Day.
I don't do Halloween.
Christmas.
On Christmas?
You want a gift or you want these bills paid?
No, I do Christmas.
Wasn't the bills get paid this year?
Yeah.
Wait a minute.
This day is said.
You want light or you want gift?
That's not why.
So when you, like on Christmas,
you paid the bills sheep hell.
Does he does a gift?
Don't listen to him, yo.
That's what?
That's not what I said.
I'm going to take your debt.
I just take your shit and run with it.
I asked my girl, my girl wanted a Cardier watch.
So I asked my girl like, yo, do you want to watch
or do you want me to pay off your credit cards?
And then she said credit cards.
I would have bought the watch if she said she wanted to watch.
We said both.
She wanted both.
Yeah, both would have been crazy.
It was both.
It was both.
Both would have been unlimited sucks for the rest of the mind.
She said she wanted Cardier, you want a card.
Hold on paper.
Yo, anyway.
People in relationships don't get their dicks up.
Stop.
Huh?
Not by the person they didn't a relationship with, for sure.
Shit.
Right?
So back to what I was saying.
When I first met my one of those sides of the end.
You just like the blackest thing works overseas.
That was definitely one of the first.
I'll pay enough.
I pay a lot.
Bro.
Valentine's Day, you getting your Valentine.
A card?
No, me.
From Tiffany's.
He's cat.
Tiffany got a new Valentine's.
Yeah, exactly.
I promise you,
it will be no Valentine's day
for me.
I can assure you.
I love to watch men's sporting women on holidays.
That's so little.
I'm tapped still,
nigga.
I'm waiting for March like a motherfucker.
And then you had per birthday Christmas give
my money is gone.
My money is gone.
Mine too.
Birthday Christmas,
all these fucking kids' birthdays,
I'm tapped.
I'm done.
I don't have it.
You shouldn't mean?
No.
Hell no.
We're building the house.
Get the fuck out of my face.
Go sit down somewhere.
So Parks.
Yeah.
New edition.
And then I just dinner, like dinner?
you got to do a little something, bro.
I mean, in front row.
Does that matter?
No, it's no.
First off, it should always be a phone row.
I think she, I just tell her.
Like, that don't mean nothing.
I didn't give Ricky Bell some money
until you come down there.
He said his front row.
Yeah, that's the norm.
Yeah, that's regular.
You just fit.
Got you.
See, that's the problem.
Yeah, that's the problem.
That's the game, bro.
All right.
Game is the game.
So let me see what day Valentine's Day 4-1.
It's like a Saturday.
Oh, yeah, no.
It's a Saturday.
Because the show was a Friday night.
That's why I was,
Like, right.
Oh, that is a Saturday day.
Oh, shit.
It's Friday at 13.
These chicks think something lit about to happen.
That's what I'm trying to tell you, though.
Something about it happened.
You're doing something.
I better take my nap on Friday.
Leaving me.
I better take my nap on Friday.
What is that thing?
So you eat a good holiday dick.
Oh, okay.
You're getting some holiday dick and.
I don't think it's not wrong.
I'm saying holiday dick because girls definitely try to give a pussy for the holiday.
You got to get a new, you got a new fresh batch.
Fresh batch.
A little pussy.
Bull.
I need some.
He said bald.
Yeah.
The blue bags.
I need some now.
Corey keep coming to my door.
Talking about some yo.
Fresh ones.
Corey that took three of my good fucking sex pills.
That's crazy.
And you don't know how to tell your man
when you're running low or some shit
and you need it.
He's like, I need another.
Like damn, nigga me too.
God damn.
Take a whole sex pill?
Huh?
Yo, you're crazy.
You knicks.
It's crazy.
I did angel dust.
I have a hundred time.
I have a very high time.
We're not trying to get high.
We're trying to get hard, nigga.
But I'm just saying, my fucking that smoked PCP, not going to say take half the blue dolphin.
Yeah, that's what I think.
He's a little dolphin.
This thing is such a jerk.
For the bitch.
Again, nigga, you ain't getting high.
You getting hard.
It's not the point.
You're your bloodstream.
Ain't you, my fucking.
It went over here.
Do you guys want to talk about the canceling of Vince Staples this show?
That sucked.
Yeah, that did.
We apologize, Vince.
Yeah.
We apologize.
We ain't cancel it.
I watched it, too.
Because what happens is we should have came in and made a big to do about it.
We should have definitely made it our priority in our business to watch it, support it, and come in and talk about it.
I unfortunately never saw it.
Yeah, me.
And I heard great things about it.
You didn't see the first season.
I saw the first season.
And I heard it was amazing.
First season was really good.
The second season was still very good.
I blame Netflix.
In terms of marketing and advertising, there was almost none.
I think Vince was even going around saying if I don't tweet this,
no one's going to watch it because they don't know it exists.
And that's my point.
So to us,
I'm talking about the people.
So that's our job to pick the slack with him.
That's our job.
If we know he's not getting a proper marketing and that's our homeboy,
we should have marketed his show more.
I still put it on Netflix,
but I get what you saying.
We should help.
But yeah, Netflix should do it.
I thought we were really excited about it and talked about it as soon as we learned it was coming.
But we talked about it.
We talked about it.
Once we knew they re-upped them for season two,
we went crazy.
Crazy. Season two came out and we didn't.
Netflix should have had Vince go to where his audience is.
And they didn't.
They didn't.
I'm not, I'm not owning that.
I was on the phone with Vince while he was in New York trying desperately to get to this show because niggers.
And his schedule was jam packed with the other shit.
So, I mean, he went where it was a priority for him to go.
and they got those results.
It also seemed like in speaking to him
that he was aware a little bit.
He was aware that I'm going.
He may have been against some things
fighting silent battles behind the scenes
and now when it's promo time
you sending me to Good Day New York
and fucking, I think that Zway interview
if it wasn't for that.
It was amazing.
The Zway interview took off was excellent.
If it wasn't for that,
he went to a bunch of whitewash shit.
I don't think I saw him anywhere else.
I don't know.
And that's that.
But Vince is a friend of the show
He's actually family of the show
At this point
I support everything that he does
I don't think this would be his last shot
He's extremely talented
He's so talented
Extremely talented
I'm pretty sure someone else will pick up the show
That's what I was thinking of
Because it's good
It's not like it's corny
It's just what they handle properly
Yeah take it to FX
Take it to Max
Just take it to some way else
Or write a new show
Or write a new show
I don't think this is the last
That we've seen of
Vince Staples
on a big or small screen.
Yeah, Vince is brilliant.
Yeah, that's one of my...
That shit sucks, though.
Vince, one of my young mentors, man.
He mentors me.
That's dope.
Yeah, that's my guy.
You're my mentor.
Absolutely love him.
Really?
Wait, he's your what?
He's your what?
He's your mentor.
No, what is he to you?
What you called it?
He's my mentor.
His mentor is Joe Button.
Yeah, he mentors me on some things.
I left the game in 06.
Yeah, I mean, I need the young nigs
to tell me what's going on out there.
I mean?
I did my first show in Jersey
and I came out to pump,
pump it up. Did you pump it up?
Yes. I was supposed to come because
Mark was supposed to invite me. You didn't show up.
It's the second one. Mark never called and never
invited me. Joe, I'm over it. It's cool.
How to go? It was great. And I was
going to say, because is that in your area in New Brunswick
or you're like from the area? They are.
They are. Now we're not. They are.
These two bitch-ass niggas are. Can you please tell me
what's up in New Brunswickville? Like, what kind of area is?
They got to tell you. It's a college town. It's a college town.
Okay.
Ruckers dominates. I was where like the soft niggas be at these two
Rutgers dominates.
I feel like it was like...
And they got mad projects and you won't go down there
talking that shit.
Not a one.
They run you out of there
just like they ran you out of Jersey City.
I won't go there for a day.
The people of New Brunswick were cool and shit.
I want you all that.
They were.
And they were nicely dressed.
And they treated me good when I was at Rutgers too.
Let me stop talking shit.
It did.
Yeah.
When I went to the Rutgers?
Hell yeah.
It was excited to have me.
Any who's.
What else?
What else?
What else?
What else is important?
Vince, I love you, man.
Yeah, we love you, Vince.
I was right back.
I love you too.
Elamay has a new project dropping.
I pre-ordered it because Stan.
Of course.
Same.
Executive producer beef.
And actually, before we even get to that, come on,
because I meant to play this the other.
Beef.
Let's see.
I'm joking.
It's not really good.
Bong, bong.
Bong.
One.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Come on.
Let me do L.A right.
Let me do L.M.
Right, man.
ain't going to act like she ain't been dropping no heat around here.
That's still Eleame.
Let's not get it fucked up around here.
No, hey, baby, I got it.
You ain't always got to be on it.
Hey.
When I'm breaking.
Wait a minute.
Hey.
I am my all your efforts, all your patience.
Notice love.
I ain't got no damage.
When you're a little.
Brand new Elamator's record is called 100.
And as fire as it is, that is not why they brought the topic up.
So who's executive producing
LMA's new project?
I mean, mustard, of course.
Also, Jason Tatum.
You get to see who's a better executive producer.
LeBron.
You're building an empire here.
Or Jason Tatum.
Oh, yeah, Jason Taylor.
I need your shoe sizes.
Yeah.
I need your shoe sizes.
Jason Tatum asks me, but I got to get it to him.
He asked me a year ago, work.
I got to get it to him.
But anyway, all right.
Hey, yo, J.T.
attend, my nigga.
That's all you got.
He watches.
See, you that type of nigger.
Word.
For what?
Hey, yo, J.T.
Your man said, give me your size.
The nigger said, give me your size.
I said that.
That ain't for you to yo J.J.
Don't say, yo, JT. again.
Hey, he was at the finals game up there.
That's why I don't introduce none of my people.
That's what I'm saying.
Because of shit like that.
I don't introduce you to none of my people for other reasons.
I know Mandy.
I know Danny.
I know your people already.
I know you're old people.
I know.
Oh, I know.
It's the cruel gang.
You corny.
Um.
How do we feel?
I know y'all want to make some jokes about this.
I can't because Jason Tatum is my man.
I think it's fire.
Jason Tatum is one of my better internet friends.
I think it's fire.
What's the internet friend?
Not a real friend.
People that you're just friends.
Like a pair of social thing.
Yeah, like people that you root for that you pretty fly with digitally.
Oh, I have a lot of those.
Exchange little LOLs in the DM.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's a really.
Congrats bros.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's a good digital.
Good digital friend of mine.
A little hate speech in the DM.
So I try to hold it down for them
And they're pretty private with their relationship
And because they put so much effort
Toward that I don't come on air
Talking about them two niggas like that
And that's probably a large reason why Jason Tatein won't come
Sit down over here because he don't trust us to not bring up shit like that
I think it's fire
Why
Because he a cupcake ass man
That's why
You're the icing
That's why
You're gonna wait a minute
Wait a minute
He's the icing that you said
I'm the icing to your cupcake.
Aw, Ish.
You just put that.
Oh, Is she fool.
You might want to take that back.
I love you too.
Is you fool.
I think that, um...
Nick, you're the icing.
That is not a cup bag.
You don't want to be the cupcake.
Like, Elamay is Ella Mae.
She's one of them.
And I think that if they had an opportunity where he could necessarily fund her project
or some shit, you could kind of bypass a bunch of the bullshit.
That's,
Maybe that is.
You get what I'm saying?
You don't think it's a creative input.
You think it's strictly financial.
It could be.
You don't think Jason Tatum no slaps?
Yeah, I do.
But again, if I could finance my short ease project,
she don't need the label as much.
She don't have to have as much label support,
and we can do it that way.
It's worth a shot.
That will make you an EP?
Yeah.
So that's part of the conversation.
I'm an EP.
That's all the EP is.
I'm an EP.
I got a $500 million contract and you my girl.
I thought the EP.
was the person that funds things.
It depends.
In music, it's also
sometimes a creative.
EP means anything.
Yeah.
That's what I said
Epis.
I didn't know that.
And if I sell
a million albums
that's putting another
check over here
in my household,
we're going to build
the empire together.
You think Jason's going
to want his cut?
No, in the household.
Try to talk to that.
Not in pocket.
You think
you think really wealthy
men are looking
to their girl
to form in
a business empire with them?
Tell me more.
I think that, I think,
let me take this, let me rewind this.
I think, I think it depends
on the mentality of the man.
Some really wealthy men
from what I've seen
want their wife to just shut up and be seen.
And that's a control thing.
Then there's other men that got a little bit more security.
They want to build something
with their wives. I think that
when you get married or you have a brand,
I think it just helps the brand
when you marry to somebody that's successful tool
and y'all just working together in concert.
Mark, Ice Parks?
I'm good with it if it's a business EP,
if it's I paid for this project.
Where I get nervous is when people start dating artists,
and I'm not saying this is Jason Taylor.
But when I saw the headline, that's what I thought.
Well, you start dating artists,
you start having creative input,
and you start wanting to give.
I be spitting.
Yeah, right.
Them drums can be tweaked a little bit, you know.
And I've been in that situation
where, like, you date an artist,
you know what I mean?
And you, like, start giving input on some,
and thoughts and things like that.
And you start really thinking you, that's what you did?
Yeah.
I thought they were trying to control your speeches.
I think you're actually what you should do.
Land it on it.
Don't say landed on us.
Make it wrong.
Did you answer the question now?
If you were super wealthy, would you be looking toward your wife to be a business empire with
you or be some type of power?
No, I would want to just create with her.
I would want to, I would want to partner with her own things.
You're doing it right now?
Exactly.
That's a perfect example.
Like, I'm, I'm losing money from this shit.
He says he's not super wealthy as well.
I didn't.
I'm not super wealthy.
I don't have no money.
But I love to, like, work on my wife on stuff.
But I don't want her, like you said, like, working on my speeches.
I'm not going to be writing her books.
You know what I mean?
Like, we can have our own worlds.
But I like the idea to say we can build stuff together.
All I'm saying is I've seen people start to get in the studio, get in the booth and don't.
And that's what I don't want.
I just don't want any creative.
Breeze, what about you, man?
I would absolutely want my partner to, uh, if I was well,
healthy to build it together.
You, sit your FAA ass down,
you know.
Now, to this EP, shit, can I be a little toxic?
Please.
Please.
Why can't this just be a digger saying this shit might go?
And in the event we don't work out.
I want my piece.
I think they're married.
In the event that this don't work out.
If they're not married, they're a day from it.
In the event this don't work out, I'm Jason Tatum.
I got $600 million.
I'm still young as fuck.
I don't need Jeff.
He'll be fine.
Parks?
Did I need to ask you?
What's the question?
Nice.
If you were super wealthy,
would you be looking to your partner
for you guys to become a business powerhouse?
If she was into it,
I've tried to encourage certain things
and it doesn't necessarily work out.
You guys, make some noise myself.
Joe, hold on, no, no, no, no, no.
Hey, you guys.
Hold on, sir.
Hey, Bimona.
Hey, Joe.
These niggas are such cupcakes.
Joe.
Facts.
We'd like to ask you a question now as well
And I want Mauders' answers to this too
My baby's icing
Thanks for being on the music
Thank you so much
Um
This is the main
Right
This is not Patreon
This is the main
She listened to all this
I know
I know
No his image though
My girl listening
His faces
Or YouTube lines
Comments
Comments
Um
Yeah commenters
Um
Um
Um
Um
This is interesting, right?
Because a Cameron conversation went viral recently
where he was talking to his ex.
And his ex was saying,
yo, when we were together, you didn't support me.
And he was saying, no, I supported you.
I just wasn't into your business ventures
because I thought that they were bad investments.
And you take that as I don't support you
and that couldn't be further from the truth.
it was an interesting
talk that they were having
but if I'm guessing
I just told I just had just told my girl last month
I think I told you all
where hey what do you want for your birthday
I want a content building
no
sorry
and she said why
because I don't think
that that's the greatest investment
and she says but it's a gift
no it ain't
Why?
It's a gift.
Because it ain't a gift.
Why it's not a gift?
You said what do you?
It's a gift that's going to keep on giving.
No, but you said, what do you want for your birthday?
Mm-hmm.
And she said X.
So if I want X for my birthday as a gift, get me X.
Y'all, loudest deal.
That ain't a one-off.
That's the problem.
That's why it's not a gift.
It'd be like if somebody said, I want a cell phone for my birthday, but you got to pay the bill every month.
It's a bill.
It's a bill.
It's not a gift.
It's a bill.
Well, it's also his line of work.
so it's going to become, if she gets really into it,
now you are executive producing whatever she's done,
whether you like it or not.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm cool.
You want to content building.
I like your style, really.
Yeah, I'm cool on that.
Some business ideas, like Mark was saying,
like you're inheriting maintenance.
You're inheriting fees, staff fees,
fucking supply fees.
It's a lot more fees.
And time, that's time away from me.
No, I'm talking about.
Can we talk about it?
Now I'm talking about your time.
That's time we can't spend together.
Yeah, can we talk about the conversation that Kim had with his ex?
Can we talk about it?
I want Joe to answer the question first.
Yeah, because he spent your.
I'm sorry.
He didn't spend your all.
I wasn't going to answer the question.
Yeah, he's good at that too.
I wrote notes.
No, I'm not looking to my partner to help us be some type of power couple.
If she wants to go join like a sewing club, though, or a cooking club or some knitting
some knitting shit.
Volunteer at the old folks home.
I encourage her to find some shit.
to do with yourself.
Do something.
How about you, Mona?
Mona ain't getting no nigger, no time.
Mona is far a long way from getting it.
I like the idea of like chasing money with my partner or whatever,
but I know in reality when I've done it,
it's like that shit spill over to the house
because y'all get the fussing about shit.
So if you almost like I feel like it's hard to cut it off,
whatever y'all fussing about investment you made,
sometimes that comes to the house.
And that shit.
Who's going to cut it?
who's going to back up exactly
I promise and usually
y'all go on me
y'all call me ghetto or drug dealer
but I promise any business venture I've had
with a man it was some drug shit
so far
but it's the same thing
it's a fucking business
and you make a lot of money
if you're a halfway decent dude out there
and you're looking to manage
a comedian is an easy entry way
it's a real easy entry way
and she don't even need a big meat
she won't five right
if you're a half a right
If you're halfway decent, Joe.
Because it ain't going to take, like.
No, but that's, we're still not shooting for that.
Like, stop.
But halfway decent is good.
No, decent.
First of all, if you're halfway decent and you come in my life,
my mentor and my new brothers are going to smell it and they're going to get rid of you,
correct?
That's a fact.
Yes.
We play too much with these niggas.
No, but seriously, I feel like now if you tell me you in particular,
tell me that a drug business that I might have had with a man is any different.
from a legal business.
It's the same thing where it's like we can't cut it off once we get in the crib.
We still have, it's still tension from what we were doing outside.
I don't think that that would be different with a legal business than an illegal
business.
Seriously.
It would be a little bit.
I think it is.
It is a little bit.
Why?
Because it's more stressful.
Yeah.
Because the other shit.
You kind of always got to be on when you sell correct to the community.
Whereas, no, if it's like, pre-legal, you can try to say that.
We'll talk about it on Saturday.
Listen, make sure you put the double lock on the door.
Before you come upstairs, yeah.
Before you come upstairs and make sure you come upstairs and make sure you.
make sure you tuck that in the cross space.
So if they kick the door rang.
I do kind of want to hear the fights.
What are the fights about?
I had to shoot that nigga over your dumb shit.
I want to cut it wrong.
It's crazy because it's something right in the tip of my mouth.
I'm not even going to do it to myself.
That's hilarious.
Listen, but that's what I think.
I do like the idea of us chasing the same thing,
especially with the economy, how hard it is out here.
So if y'all got something, y'all got something.
You know, average person, the bitch is not a great singer,
and this nigga is good at sports.
Like in average people
You know what I mean?
So it's like
If we got something
We're going to push it
And sometimes we need all the energy
To make it into this thing
You know
But I don't know
I like the idea of
That being separate
I do
Yeah
I think it's fine
That's what I used to
About you
When you used to get a new girl
They had money right
Um
That's not where I was going
But I think they didn't
I know
Every time you got
That's what you ain't fuck with
Right
No
It's the fact that they sonned you out
and hired you to their business
and now you fucking looking up shit in encyclopedias
and all that.
I love that.
Is that what happened?
Like you've had some of your bitches hiring?
Yeah, they hired this thing
and now you don't want to hang out no more
because you're looking at houses.
And that's what I love about you
because I feel like you want to fuck my friends.
I got a bitch.
That's how I don't want a nigga.
That's not me.
Don't leave me.
Don't leave me.
You're over there.
I ain't with that.
I promise you.
I don't answer bitches calls or none of that.
Yo, that's not me.
I'll stop speaking to all you all you are.
And he's lying.
You know, he's lying
Like, this was me and he used to be outside
At the height of our
Outsideness
Yeah
My girl used to be mad
As she should
This nigga keep dragging
So he's sitting here lying
But it's okay
But I think that any nigga out here
Especially if you have the ability
To stand behind your girl dreams
Why would you not?
Well, let me ask you this
Have you ever did it reverse
Where she chased your dreams with you?
Yes
And them same chicks that was getting money
They was helping me get money too
No cab
He'd know
I'm a jig and low
Go spend a lot to dough.
Go ahead.
Tap her.
You see him tapping me?
You know your man.
You didn't even do that.
Well, when he, that one way you put her on his business, she, she ran off.
I knew that's what he was.
She's gone.
She ran off with all the houses.
It's, like, disgusting.
That was his darkest time period in life.
He was really down and depressed.
Did you kill that bitch?
He wanted to honor alive himself.
I beat that bitch.
I was dead for him.
How many houses, Joey?
Wait, what?
Is that really happened?
Lying say I wasn't there.
How many houses, Joey?
How many houses?
I got a lot so much.
What I'm saying?
I didn't think you were telling the truth.
He was broke.
Shut the fuck up.
He was down bad.
She wiped him clean.
Yes.
Oh my God.
What the fuck?
What happened?
We want to know this story.
They don't know.
They really don't know.
I really don't know.
I really don't know.
Shorty took your shit.
Sorry.
Please.
You have to talk about your damn time.
If you don't tell us, Joe's going to tell us.
We can't enjoy your good times if we don't talk about your damn time.
That's the short version.
What happened?
You ain't going to tell us.
Everything he had.
She did some trickery business shit?
He was so down.
Was you blinded by the post?
Just tell us the story, man.
Poor.
Nothing.
In life, you make bad business decisions.
Literally nothing, yeah.
Where you don't necessarily protect.
I think it to the cleaners.
See, if you can tell you.
Let him talk.
You're going to tell a story.
Have you ever heard the term,
take to the cleaners?
Dog.
She took my man to the cleaners.
And when you say you were there for him,
you bore his next investment property so he could flip it.
No, no, not a dog.
Answer that.
Answer that.
He was dead for you just talking to you.
He was like, I got my dog back.
I gave him a shoulder to lean on and pussy to penetrate.
That ain't enough.
That ain't enough.
What?
That's nice.
That ain't enough.
Did you hear yourself?
For real, niggins be feeling down on themselves.
Feel like they can't go get it on their own.
Y'all, I got you.
Yo, I got you.
Yo, we out tonight.
You're being fired at you, pussy.
You can do too down to go pull it yourself.
Yes.
A real friend.
Thank you.
I'm just trying to stand still.
Oh, God.
What does she do?
You don't think I can go get no box?
Listen, that's not what we're talking about.
You couldn't get no boxed in.
We're talking about you being right.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
You're talking tough now that you cleaned yourself up
and got some that's-that-ish fucking cuffs.
Then, at that point, when you was down and out,
shit out of luck without a door or pot to pissing,
no, you couldn't get no bitches.
Your eyes was a different color, your skin looked bad.
You was down bad, nigga, no.
You couldn't.
You cleans yourself up.
Look at a performance.
You know how you're alive.
You now's back.
Because look what you did.
I'm not going to yell or scream.
Look, look, you're performing.
I've never been ugly.
And I never been broke
And I always could talk.
He had a hard time.
So those three things in combination
I could get some pussy.
Other things you don't know about.
Fuck is you talking about.
We're not going to do that.
You get a bunch of pussy if they feel like they can get
a thousand doors at the end of the deal.
You could feel what you want to feel.
Feelings don't equal facts.
Mona.
I was there for him.
I know.
I helped him feel a little better during
one of the darker periods of his life.
You're about to piss me off.
And sometimes he act like you could get.
Was his eyes brown?
Was his eyes brown?
Yeah, some wax shit.
Some whack.
Hey, he lost the twinkle.
You might have to piss me off.
Yeah, nigga on mute.
You know everybody here knows a joke because imagine you ugly.
Can't.
Try.
Can't even eat picture it.
Yeah, you're so stupid.
But how should you take your doors?
Yo, you want to talk about.
Mark is talking to me.
You're going to piss me off.
Mark is talking to you.
Okay, you better check out.
She took your shit, nigger.
Talk your shit, your girl.
How should take your doors then?
And put you out.
That that did never happen.
She put you out.
Who was there to pick you up?
Watch yourself.
Who was there to pick you up
when she kicked you out
in the rain?
It was raining too.
Whoever kicked me out.
It was raining.
And it was raining.
He's standing on River Road.
He's standing on River Road, talking about.
What light you at?
Nick, I'm coming.
I'm at the light.
I'm at the light, money.
I'll be right there.
I'm at the light, money.
Yeah.
He acts like he forget.
I had the bucks.
Don't act like you forgot.
We've been there for each other
in our friendship, that's all I'm saying.
He has to stick with the handkerchief.
This nigga is
You're the greatest, bro.
This nigga is funny and shit, bro.
Mark, you don't know.
He never answered my question.
I give him.
I was.
Oh, tell me what happened.
Nothing.
You sometimes you enter back.
Let him talk.
Let him talk.
You could just enter into a business with somebody.
And when a business
go wrong or the relationship go wrong,
niggas would be on some bullshit.
They'd dissolve you out.
So she, and she walked with all the stuff?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Have you seen it since?
Yeah.
You're all good now?
Yeah.
Have you ever hit her?
Physically?
Like a punch.
Or like a shud, like a good mush.
Not a lot.
I ain't doing it.
You can't, bitch ain't good for a mush
at the burning you out of $200,000?
There's more than $200.000.
I can't mush you at the invest fest
10 years after I ain't seen you at you do that.
No.
Oh, yeah.
You're the musher?
Oh, I'm musher.
What's 10 times?
From the front.
What's 10 times $25 grand?
like I'm bad a man
$2.50?
10. Yeah.
Like $250 worth a house.
Yo.
There's more than that too.
I don't know what's that bitch ass.
It's all right.
No, but you, but pay it to the story.
It's a lesson learned, yo.
Right, and the lesson was
you could have took precautions that made it
until it wouldn't happen. So what you did was
highlight your mistake.
She didn't learn.
And check yourself instead of worrying about the fact
this dirty scounder robbed you for everything
you had left you in the rain with a bandana
on a stick. Yeah.
She was lesson for,
No, she wasn't.
She wasn't.
She walked away unscaged.
Not a problem.
No jail time.
She was driving.
No community service.
No nothing.
He had to go back.
He had to bounce back.
That's why it's tough being a guy sometimes.
Like, you got to bounce back no matter what.
You do got to bounce back.
And what happens when you bounce back?
Better.
You do it better than what?
Eyes more twinkly.
And they look in their wounds.
More doors.
Oh, nanny.
Stop, bro.
Don't do that.
Let me take my pills.
Stop.
What do that mean?
What do you mean?
He said when you bounce back, your eyes are greener than they ever were.
When you bounce back, you're doing better than a bitch that robbed you for the little 250.
Was $2.50 to a millionaire, niggins.
Is she doing bad now?
Yeah, on fucking damn.
She still got them houses?
She still got them houses?
No, she sold them.
Oh, damn.
She sold them.
They kept the money.
Damn, that's cool, though.
It's thing me, man.
Yikes.
I'm not saying a word.
I'm chilling.
Listen, bro.
Just one last question.
The last black girl.
You really like really fucked up financially?
Or Joe just fucking with this?
No, he was down really bad.
No, I wasn't.
I wasn't what he talked about.
That was the poorest.
You lose money in business.
You were still inside.
You were still housed.
Do y'all hear this thing?
I've never seen him poorer than that.
This thing is such a...
I ain't known for her.
I ain't known him his whole life, but I've known him since like 0-1.
At least his 0-1.
That was the down baddest I haven't seen him.
But you got, look at them down.
Their old bad is not even a word.
But take a look at him now.
You bounce back.
Fuck that shit.
Anyway.
Fuck that bitch.
What else needs our attention?
Listen.
Oh, good.
No, no, no.
This is important.
This is another time that issue was wrong.
So Charles Barkley gave an interview the other day.
And one of the things he talked about was saying that he wished that he was on TV more.
Because TNT's inside the NBA has only been on, I think, three or four times all NBA season.
the NBA has kind of pulled the plug on that and basically said,
this ain't our show.
And Charles is just saying,
and he said,
like I used to say I wouldn't be on TV.
I didn't want to do that ESPN shit where you work in all of them channels.
But I do wish we was on TV a little bit.
And he said he hoped that things will get better in the spring.
So it just seemed to be that the NBA really doesn't fuck with this show.
And my theory is that they didn't want the show to exist anymore at all.
And instead of just killing the show where they could go elsewhere,
they did that industry thing,
like you do it movies,
where you buy it and then you put it on the shelf so no one else can happen.
So I just think that's funny.
Funny, I think it's poetic justice, because I remember when they were on T&T, and Charles was clowning ESPN people.
I'm not, they do Spanish, they do this, they do that, they work 50 jobs, like clowning them.
And be clear, he's still clowning them.
He said, he said a lot more than you even said.
He was clowning, some of the commentators, the experts, the analysts.
He was clowning ESPN 1, 2, 3, de Portez.
He was clowning.
Some of the shit that you have to say to even be on TV, clout the amount of times they've been on ESPN, not just since the NBA season, but this month is a whole.
He said they've been there like twice or three times this month.
He said he don't care if he get fired.
He was shooting at the upper upper executive.
Hey, I would love nothing more than to get fired and y'all have to pay me out the rest of my contract for the next seven years.
I triple, triple, triple dear you please let me go home and golf.
Please let me go home and golf and get paid instead of doing this bullshit.
He said a lot.
He said a lot.
But the big takeaway was that he was upset because the show's not on.
There's no air time.
I agree with everything Park said.
They just wanted that show off of the air and it wasn't really good.
toward the end. One of the best shows ever,
my opinion, toward the end.
Not so much.
It is a slow death. Where was I wrong?
You were saying that they'll be fine
and they are still on television.
I didn't say that.
I said the NBA ratings have dropped.
I said people would watch the show
just to see Charles, Kenny and Ernie
and Shaq make you laugh.
It could be a game with fucking the pelicans in Milwaukee
and niggas are watch for them.
I said they were an attraction in and of themselves.
And I said that I think the new people that have replaced them are not fan favorites like they were.
I ain't say nothing about them being okay.
I think them niggas love that job.
I think when you're rich and you don't got nothing to do, coming to work sometimes with niggas that you fuck with doing something that you love, i.e. coming to this podcast, it gives a level of enjoyment that we could come up here and talk shit and still get paid to talk shit.
Like, it's cool.
I think them niggas love that job.
I think they modified their lives for that job.
And I think they tight when that shit.
They expressed that they was tight when that shit got canceled.
I just think that those niggas,
because you came in and was saying that their new assessment would be,
oh, yo, they're not working hard enough.
They're not playing hard enough.
They wouldn't go into the analytical stuff about basketball no more.
They was just real short with it toward their end of they run.
I think that was the bottom line of my point is that they,
You can tell that they weren't watching games.
Yeah, you said that.
They were extra critical of their business partners.
And the product had just deteriorated.
It's still a performance-based business.
I think that E.J. and Kenny Smith will be fine
because they're really, really good at just explaining things.
Shack got too much business and too much money to really care about.
And he's not a basketball.
But no, the funny part is E.J. and Kenny would handle the analytical stuff.
what made that show that show
was the banter, the comedy
and all of that shit
that also came from Chuck and Shaq.
When you take those two
that are the
journal, like the more journalistic
if that's a word.
They're actually just analysts.
They're basketball analysts.
And you take Shaq and Charles
and bring it all together,
I think it's a real good gumbo
that everybody liked
because the comedic portion
and the performative portion
came from Chuck and Shaq.
But what if everybody didn't like it?
Like what if they ran
whatever their little focal groups
saw their numbers research and marketing and all of that.
Focus tests, yeah.
Yeah.
And saw, like, people don't want that no more.
Oh, maybe, it might have started to dip, but be clear, they were the number one sports show for a very long time.
Very long time.
And deserved.
And the rating said so.
And deserved it.
So maybe it took a dip.
That's possible.
Yeah, it's possible.
I'm not saying that, but we're not going to say that they, they're not going to say that they're a state.
We know what they were.
Yeah, they're a super entertaining show, and I always thought they were.
And I agree with you.
Shack and Charles added the personalities to what Kenny was.
was doing, which was the analytics. And then
Ernie is probably as good a host as there as there is.
But I think the fans are also
this generation of fans want something else too.
In the age of podcast, blogs,
there's so much expertise or pseudo expertise, there's so much talk.
People actually wanted to talk about X's and O's, and that makes it tough.
But I think Charles Nen made this bed, and I love Charles Barker. I think
they made this bed and they're going to have to lie in it. I don't know if we'll
ever see them on TV the way they were five years
ago. Probably not.
Probably not.
Probably not.
Life is a series of moments and moments past.
That's what I always say.
Exactly.
Did you guys familiarize yourself with the ESPN article,
the piece that they did on the Lakers, LeBron, and Jeannie Bus?
Oh, yeah.
I didn't see the, I didn't read the whole piece.
I saw excerpts from it.
And I think, I think it's true.
And again, I've come in hand, we've been talking off Mike
and telling you what niggas have said to me.
and I ain't got the inside track.
You know what I mean?
You do be having an inside track.
A little bit, but the shit that
But didn't it mirror what the niggas's been saying to me months ago?
I said some of this stuff.
And it comes out that it's the same exact shit.
And LeBron has denied it, by the way, just for the record.
Of course, and Gina.
So what were the spicy details?
That they tied to his shit.
Ah.
Him and Rich Paul are running around like day the mayor.
And some of these people are not with that shit.
The Lakers ain't with that shit.
Nobody's bigger than the program.
Bro, we talk about old white.
money bro. Jeannie Bus privately
grumbled about LeBron's outsized
ego and clutches overt
control over the organization.
Some of the same things that you heard out of
Miami when that whole thing was going around.
And Cleveland.
Yeah, actually you're right about that.
Lack of accountability.
Jeannie Bus felt that LeBron would
shift blame on to others, especially
after the Russell Westbrook trade
that did not work out.
She said she
seriously considered trading him,
a few years ago.
She said she feels like
LeBron takes way too much credit
for the organization being
where they are.
She said a lot of LeBron stuff,
to which LeBron replied,
I don't care about articles that are written.
And all of LeBron stuff is juicy for headlines.
I read the entire piece.
The real juice to me was about
the internal fight between her and her siblings.
Okay.
Yes.
Yeah, I thought that was kind of thing.
That's where the real team was.
The rest of it sounds like regular,
like workplace.
bitching kind of you know what I'm saying? I know it's it's super uh blown up because
we're talking about LeBron and the Lakers but it sounds like yeah but it's every battle of
athletes had with it but the article was it was talking it was talking about how
genie bus may be recognized differently in the estate planning than the rest of the siblings
which enabled her to take a certain stance or behave in a way that was against the majority of
the siblings, especially when it came to do with the team, the handling of it, the selling of it,
so forth and so on. They painted her to be like a real...
Well, the rest of the siblings came way after, right? Wasn't Gene around like when the purchase
happened? I'm just going off of showtime. I'm not a fucking... I don't know, but what I did
hear, I heard that for a while, she stepped back from the organization because they was
been beefing. And I heard she stepped back and said, cool, I'm going to let y'all do it your way.
for three or four years and we're gonna see what happens.
And that's when the Lakers were that love.
And she came back in like, all right, let a real nigga do this now.
She said that?
As a quote.
You got what I'm saying?
She came back in and said, yo, let me do what we're going to do
and we're going to see who fares better when y'all was at the helm or when I'm at the helm.
You got understand what I'm saying?
And then she fared better.
And then she fair better.
But she was around since the 80s, no?
Yes, she's been the one.
She grew up in the organization.
My dad was my, you know what I'm saying?
So she grew up in the organization.
Again, to your point, I think this is old white money.
However, I'm sorry.
Everybody not a fan of the sport.
I think she's a fan of the sport.
Some people look at this shit like it's a business.
So now when you start talking about the inner turmoil,
I don't know this to be true.
It could have came from the handling of LeBron.
Well, and I think they recognize her status with the organization.
However, the other siblings say it's pretty clearly laid out in the estate plan.
And if anybody ever knew their dad, that their dad wanted the Lakers to be a family business for the rest of life.
Like any profit, any benefit, y'all divvy this up.
We don't, I don't want to sell this.
I want y'all to work through this as a family.
I gave my entire life for this for y'all to do.
Hey, so the siblings are like everything that Jeannie Bus is doing is in stark contradiction.
with what dad would have wanted with this team.
And they talk about the handling of the Mitch Cupcheck firing,
the Magic Johnson handling.
They said Jerry West has kind of been the glue behind the scenes
holding things together between Jeannie, the siblings,
and just the handling of it.
And all the siblings are not happy with the sale of the team
and how they put about.
So really, really, really interesting piece.
The LeBron stuff was second.
secondary to me.
Yeah, that sounds interesting.
To your thing, and again, now we're just being objective.
Yeah.
If I'm the person in the office every day, I'm busting my eyes, I'm racking my brains,
I'm trying to hold this shit together, I'm trying to create winning teams, I'm trying
handling all his personalities, and y'all may not have more day-to-day duties.
Y'all over there chilling being billionaires.
Right.
Oh, she fired them.
And I'm getting older.
She fired them from their positions with the team.
Succession.
Yeah.
Yeah, like I'm getting older, dog.
That's true.
Y'all not doing shit.
You can't tell me I got to maintain this.
When you're all over there chilling, I got to hold this together and y'all just getting residuals from whatever it comes in.
You can't, I want to live my life.
I still look like a little, you know what I mean?
But I'm fucking with you, but you might can't tell me that, yo, I got to hold on to this forever.
Even though that was dad's wishes, it could be unfair.
Y'all niggas ain't helping me.
Where do you stand on that?
It'd be like that in some of these family
family passed down.
But where do you all stand on that personally?
I see both sides.
If Popps left control or like the final say whatever that to her,
he saw something in her and believed in her.
So obviously he didn't believe in y'all to do it a certain way.
Because you can easily say dad would have wanted this, dad would have wanted that.
You don't know that conversation.
You don't know what Pop said to her.
She sees something else.
She knows something else.
So I stand, if he left it to her,
That was for a reason
I also think that family business shit is like
Dad said we wanted this to be a family business
If she's running the business
It's still the family's business
You know what I'm saying?
Like I could see how
Or you might be in an advantageous spot
To say, yo we ain't gonna sell the business
You're not doing shit
You're just collecting off of the business
You're just collecting, nigga
You're not doing no heavy lifting
You're not helping me negotiate contracts
I got to deal with these niggas when they come in my office
Not you
Did I tell you don't lead nothing to them dumb ass kids
I just told me.
Well, all you got to know
which kids he leaves you.
What Pops could have did.
He could have looked at his kids
and say, yo, I know this one right here.
She's been here.
She knows how to run this shit.
She's going to get it done the right way.
And I think that the state of
business, economy, et cetera, et cetera,
a lot of that,
your family business shit
is a thing of the past.
I think that shit is a thing of the past.
A lot of times now people are
starting businesses.
They build market share.
They sell.
They go,
start another one. They build it up. They sell.
And that's how niggas is scaling out here.
I think it's also a little bit different when the business
has made billions and billions of dollars.
Like, we're no longer a mom and pop shop.
Like, this is an international,
multi-billion dollar business.
The daddy took and made from the ground up.
Like, yeah, you're right.
And she'd take that money and go do something else with it.
I'm never selling.
Well, when I say never,
no time soon it won't be in mine or my siblings' lifetime
that I'm selling if I know my dad's story
was there to witness it first hand,
how he took his very last and then
borrowed to get this team
and kind of build
the modern day live
NBA game
shit that you see
I'm never doing that.
One, two, there's always, sometimes
is that, and I'm not saying that
what y'all are saying is off, but also
sometimes the sibling
is presenting themselves like they're going to
hold it down for everybody and as soon
as dad or mom hit the casket,
now they own agenda.
coming.
Sure.
That's possible.
And if I'm looking at what Boston sold for recently, what Golden State sold for recently,
and I'm the Los Angeles Lakers.
And granted, they got some record-breaking.
They got the highest number.
Yeah, they got a record-breaking number four.
But I'm going to hold on for a little bit and have faith in the direction that the NBA is going in.
What if she, what if she did hold on?
She still has a percentage, I think, right?
I don't know.
I think so.
But think about that.
Let's say hypothetical.
Yeah, just not majority.
You leave the Joe button network to Trey.
Right?
Trey might not want to do this shit no more.
Trey might want to go be a family man.
Like, yo, I'm sitting on $100, $200, $300 million.
I don't want to have the day-to-day tasks of coming in and doing this shit no more.
I can't go on vacations.
I can't really live my life.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, I think it's unfair to put that charge on somebody.
Now, if they're willing to do it, cool.
but if they're not willing to do it no more
because they want to go enjoy their life
and not deal with the mental anguish that comes along with it.
Well, the audience should also know
you're a big Jeannie Bus guy.
Bro, it's not about Jeannie Bus.
Yeah.
But you are a big Jeannie Bus guy.
No, I think Jeannie Bus.
Like you rock with it.
But it's not about her.
I mentioned Trey.
You got what I'm saying?
Like, I think that that's unfair.
I think it's a goal that we would want
our family to do the Kennedy thing and generations,
but everybody don't want that shit.
You know what's funny.
Each child had a,
equal vote in the trust.
And they still sold.
Yeah, I guess.
Somebody probably
is according to Wikipedia.
Oh, yeah, read further on that, because even though they may have had an equal vote.
After her father died in 2013, his 66% controlling interest,
ownership of the Lakers passed with six children via trust with each child receiving an equal vote.
Jerry's succession plan had Jeannie assume his previous title as Lakers governor as well as
its team representative at the board of governor's meeting.
She became president, leading the team.
team's business operation while her brother Jim continued his VP of basketball operations.
She had ultimate operational authority and could overrule Jim's decision.
Okay, that's interesting.
Yeah, exactly.
There it is.
So equal vote, but she was recognized differently in the estate.
I know somebody recently who are incredibly successful in business.
And they recently just got like a really, really, really, really, really big check.
So I've been home all week
Trying to figure out what it would feel like
To just get that big of a check as a result of one of your businesses, right?
Give us an example
You got a ballpark?
How big was a check falls?
Ballpark.
Call it a billion.
Call it a billion dollars.
Okay.
Sheesh.
Have they been in that range before?
They've had money.
I mean, up there.
Probably never sold a business for a billion dollars.
Gotcha. Okay.
You know what I came?
too. This is going to fuck you all up maybe.
Retirement for that
person is probably really similar
to retirement as
a fireman.
I would agree.
How'd you mean? Probably has a lot
more parallels than
one would think. I would agree.
Like you hear somebody got a billion
dollars, you'd be like, oh, it's lit
it's time, oh shit, bowling, yachts,
planes, but that person
is probably sitting around
like, you know, now, now,
Now what?
Oh, for sure.
I don't want to sit at home.
I think that level of retirement, that part of retirement is the same for everybody.
I never had all this money.
Now I got all this money.
There's nothing really to do when you have all this money when you can do all of it.
Or have done all of it.
That's why I asked you what was their financial situation prior to the big, big check.
Now, if somebody gave one of us, that type of check is different.
But if you already been in the hundreds of millions for the last 20 years and now you just get a billion dollars,
even tens of millions of shit.
Your life might not change as much.
life might not change, but you're saying now what else to do?
If I've been building up a business to sell it and I might have made some money,
made some money here, but now I hit one for a billion,
to some people, that could be his motivation to go do it again.
Or now I want to go see if I could flip one for $2 billion or $5 billion.
You just keep, you keep growing.
Them niggas work hard, bro.
Like, them niggas might not work physically hard,
but a lot of the niggas in that upper air, they work hard.
I go back to what you were saying.
You're like, if I could just get this amount a month,
then once you got that amount of money
it was oh shit yo let me go here
it could be the same thing with doing the business
or if you got that amount of month right now
you'd be like man
I'm poor
Chris Rock said yo
if Bill Gates had Oprah and Shaq money
he'd jump off a roof and slid his throat
on the way down you know what I'm saying
like yo dog it's levels to the shit
I've never put myself in the mindset to think
of what that person would be thinking
like in I don't want to call it retirement but because I might not be retirement
that might not be retirement yeah it might not be yeah like if I made that much money
there's no way I could sit home you can't stop I would kill myself yeah you can how can you
stop that person will probably in more danger than the retired firefighter yes for sure like it's
scary so you assuming that that that person got that big check and now I'm done and now
it's what next good point that person that big
That could be another day at the office.
Now I just hit a benchmark.
And now that's that commotive.
Like now I'm, oh shit, let's go.
What we doing next?
They got several businesses.
I don't know.
I don't want to say anymore about them.
Got you.
But I'm just saying they might have several companies.
Hell yeah.
True.
I just ran one up to a big.
Yo, let's go run the next one up.
That's what we doing.
Let's get it.
Yeah.
There was a point with you because we could take it off of them.
There was a point with you where you was like,
yo, I want to get to $50,000 a month.
Right?
Nick, have viewers to make it $50,000?
miles a month right now, you'll
be very grateful.
Be sitting in the corner.
And appreciative that God has
been so kind to me and blessed me
in this way.
Yeah, yeah.
It's true.
I'm pop.
It's fucked up about you.
This gives me the 50 of you a month.
Well, we've been trying to.
You won't return to text.
We just trying to.
He'll text us whenever you're good.
What else?
Did y'all listen to the camera
and letter to Dame Dash song?
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I heard half of it.
I didn't listen to it.
What do you think?
I don't pass on too many cam freestyles.
Cam still hard.
They shit is too personal for me to want to get into it.
I think that's why I liked the song, because it was one of the few times where like...
He wasn't...
It didn't feel like a disc record.
Cam Loves Day.
Yeah, and you could tell it in the song.
Yeah.
And I love listening to Cam Rap, but also, it was honest.
And there were some jabs in there, but they weren't...
They didn't feel like they were mean, and they didn't feel like they were for the purpose of embarrassing them.
It felt like, look, I'm really telling you.
you how I feel. I want you to really think about this and reflect it.
It almost felt like an intervention.
It was from the heart.
Yeah.
He loves it.
It was from the heart.
That's all I took from.
It was like, yo, this was like having a heart to heart with a person I can't really sit and talk to.
Dame is another one that unless something big happened in 2026, I'm just going to try my best to not.
Like, it's never nothing.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Just me.
No, I get it.
It's just me.
I love him.
It's worth listening to.
I believe it.
Yeah.
It's like that old storytelling cam.
Yes.
like he was really talking like he walked you back from here and we did this and we did that like
it was almost like dog how you coming at me like that like this is what we've been through
right this is who we are like again it wasn't a dis and he was honest like you help me here you
saved me here you got enough this record it was so it wasn't it it was great I thought it was
before we leave sports did you guys did you guys have a chance to look at the uh buffalo
bill's owner and the press conference that he gave terrigula that was that was
That was nasty.
Terry Bougula and what he said, what he had to say about Keon Coleman.
That was nasty.
What did he say?
No.
He essentially, he kind of blamed the failure of the team on the coach picking Keon Coleman
to a degree.
He was riding for the GM.
He was riding for the GM.
They asked the GM of the team about the Keon Coleman pick.
The owner chimed in and said, hey, can I answer that?
Our GM has been taking a lot of heat.
I just wanted to be known.
He wasn't with the Keon Coleman pick.
If it were up to him, it was.
would have been somebody else.
I have that for a fact.
Yeah, the player, he was just, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was,
there's a lot of times where the owners should not fucking speak.
They're not, they're not trained, they're billionaire, so they'd have a fucking
skewed conception of reality and how to talk.
And a lot of times they talk like they're talking to the other billion.
How to manage.
Like they talk, how to do a bunch of things.
things.
Look, full circle back to the Lakers.
Like, yo dog, I might be the motherfucker in the trenches every day and you not.
So your opinion is weighed less than mine.
And some of these owners got a detachment, bro.
They billion, this be one of their businesses.
A good enough wide receiver.
Can I interrupt?
I'll address the Keon situation.
The coaching staff pushed.
to draft Keon.
I'm not saying
Brandon wouldn't have drafted him
but he wasn't his next choice.
That was
Brandon being a team player
and taking advice
of his coaching staff
who felt strongly
about the player.
And, you know,
he's taken, for some reason,
heat over it and not
saying a word about it, but
I'm here to tell you the true story.
See, what really happens in a lot of these,
it's like Game of Thrones level fucking getting ahead.
The GM Brandon Bean was brought in,
I'm pretty sure by Sean McDermott.
They've had fairly poor drafts for a while.
They've had some good drafts too,
but they've missed on some picks,
wide receiver being an important one.
And I think that the buck is just getting past
around so no one takes the blame gets gets axed what people are pointing out uh after that interview
specifically was that the wide receivers drafted before keon coleman didn't absolutely go crazy last year
uh when you talk about brian thomas junior when you talk about uh Xavier worthy when you
talk about uh Marvin harrison who else was in that he bowled out a little bit last he bawled
out a little bit till he got hurt uh Ladd mccankey who
had a better year and I think he was even drafted.
He picked up at the end.
He,
but they had a different OC last year
and they misused him, I think.
But anyway.
I think that one...
Keown Coleman is 22 years old.
And he's still under contract for like three more years.
This is a fucked up thing for the owner to come out and say.
And in football, bro, one person don't make the team.
At all.
Like one person don't make the team.
It's not the only receiver on the team.
Fucking Homeboy was fumbling and throwing picks and all of that shit.
Like, you can't do that.
You know?
But I think it's in poor taste if that's what they were trying to do, make this young guy be the escapegoat for them not winning.
No, I think that they were trying to just pass the buck.
We fired Sean McDermott because he made poor draft decisions.
That wasn't the GM who has survived this firing cycle.
And we still believe in him.
But that was worded absolutely horrible.
Yeah, I ain't with that.
And we haven't, see, this is the problem.
These organizations, Buffalo has been pretty clean for a long time.
They were shitty for a long time.
under the Sean McDermott era.
It was clean.
They forward-faced well.
This is a bad step.
Y'all trade a stuff.
Yeah.
Y'all had a number one receiver.
If that was your issue,
y'all had a one.
Yeah.
Decisions are made on a yearly basis,
bro, that affect your team.
For sure.
That's it.
You got to live with them.
I want to hit the round of applause
making a hard pivot,
hard pivot, hard pivot.
I want to hit the round of applause
for a lady that has been extremely
important in the eyes of America
for the better part of 40 years.
Keep that applause going.
I want to hit the round of applause
for someone who has been
nothing but a beacon of excellence.
Someone who has set the standard
and been a clear example
to those coming up behind her
and young women looking up to her
for the last 40 years. You guessed it.
Vanna White.
Vanne White
has married
her long time partner.
She was engaged for 14 years.
How many?
14 years.
You don't want to rush things.
Yeah.
You got to take your time.
You got to get to know her.
Yeah, that's important.
Yeah, you don't want to rush into anything.
So I want to shout Van der White out for doing this thing the right way,
not conforming to societal standards and their beliefs,
doing what feels good in your heart,
finding the one you love.
taking your time, making sure that bond is built as securely as possible.
That's right.
And then stepping in the name of love, man.
A lot of people don't do it that way.
So I wanted to round applause one more time for Van der White and anyone else out there
who is down for the 14-year engagement.
Shout-offs to her.
She didn't put no pressure on them.
She ain't rush them.
Yeah, she let him be him.
Or shout to him for not putting pressure on her.
Oh, no, yeah.
If you're in 13-year-13 of your engagement, please get out.
Hey, we didn't hear a bunch of subs.
No.
She didn't hit the instant.
the story.
She was working hard, too.
So she probably wanted to wait until after she
retired.
Letters be mad heavy.
Can you stop it?
No, for real.
I found somebody that she could build a
business empire together.
I want to know what this fucking sucker
does for a living.
Loves her.
I'll look it up.
That's it.
Look at up with this thing as you.
Don't play because he fuck around
and be a...
Because I got a feeling he working and backing
them letters.
I think you got him fucked up.
Yeah.
They didn't fuck around me a Texas
oil magnet.
I almost would assume
he would be.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Vanne White ain't just
rolled with him.
He meant with Vanna for 20 something?
Vena's 60s.
They've been together for how many years?
He's a real estate developer
and construction executive.
Don't play with it,
don't play with it, don't play with it.
Now what you got to say?
What do you got to say now?
I don't give a fuck.
14 years is ridiculous to be engaged.
That might have been her doing.
Y'all, I'm not going to talk me into it.
That might have been her doing.
What if he said, yo, I'm ready.
I'm ready.
And she's like, yo, chill, David.
Not to mention, y'all wouldn't be engaged for all them years?
Who?
I'm opening.
There's going to get to be.
They go to that silence.
They go to that silence right there.
Your wedding is going to be in the back of that big, pretty house that you're building.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, the house will definitely be built in seven years.
I'm just going to what you say?
7 to 14.
Yeah, the house will be built.
It takes 7 to 14.
It's going to take that many years to build.
I mean, it's a beautiful house.
He's getting really good lumber.
The permits.
The permits.
A lot of cabinets in the kitchen.
Y'all are Furch and Oak.
Some people don't want to be nice.
I mean, like some people like the long engagement and they just rock with it.
Some people don't want to be married, but why are we engaged then?
I'm thinking about a homeboy.
So she can wear the rain.
What is her name?
She's from, she lives in L.A.
Dude is on Black & Crew Ryan.
I don't watch Blackin.
Yeah, it's all you, bro.
She's an actress.
Who?
Anyway, they've been engaged.
They've been engaged.
They've been engaged for like 10, 20 years.
They're super happy.
And everybody's always saying, when y'all going to get married?
And she's like, I'm cool.
I'm good with it.
A real one.
A real one.
Don't rush into nothing with nobody.
Make sure you know him.
Yeah, 14 years you should pretty much know.
No, not, no.
You got to live with them for at least 20 to really know them.
That's true.
Let's see, all right.
So Dana Van der Wight is married now.
Let's see.
Also, Mom Dani cut all the hotel fees.
And that's in New York,
in New York business that people not in New York might not care about.
Mondani court cut all of the bullshit fees attached to when you're booking a hotel,
the destination fees, the resort fees, the surcharges, all of this shit that is vague and misleading.
He cut it not only for hotels in New York, but for New Yorkers booking a hotel outside.
Oh, shit.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah, let me hit the round of blood.
You know, like, shot.
Oh, shit.
So you said he cut it.
So even if, like, you live.
in New York and you go in Atlanta, you don't got to pay
to save the Wells fee and all that other shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He cut it on rent a car. You cut all that
out. I'm renting the car yesterday. Them niggas be
having facilities fee,
oil transmit fee.
You're like, yo, my nigga, what are you talking about?
That shit on concert tickets.
That's crazy. That's next. That's what you need
to happen next. Come on. Stinkin, bastards.
Just wanted to shout him out. It seems to be
attempting to do.
The same thing that he said he was doing.
Shout to him.
Now, that's what so. Go him.
What else is important? What else is important?
Nathens and Coney Island.
Let me hit the round of applause.
You know the infamous.
Lizzie business.
The world.
The world famous Nathan's.
Yeah, I'm into this type of shit.
Sold for $450 million.
I repeat.
Yeah, now it's not a joke anymore, huh?
$4.00.
Damn, who the fuck?
They make us spend a...
But they ain't a grocery store, too.
They sell products.
$450 million,
Nathens, which opened as a $5 million.
I've sent hot dog stand in Coding Island, Brooklyn, more than a century ago, has been sold to packaged meat giant Smithfield Foods.
And in all cash, $450 million deal, the company's announced on Wednesday.
Smithfield, which has held rights to produce and sell Nathan's products in the U.S. and Canada.
And at Sam's Club in Mexico since 2014, will acquire all of Nathan's outstanding shares for $102 each.
Congrats.
They better not put pork in a busy business.
goddamn hot dogs.
I'm in a round of applause again. That's big.
You started selling hot dogs
for $0.5.00 years later, you
had $450 million for your bum-ass
great grandkids. I was about saying... Grace
Spire, you're next. I was about to say,
see? And I'm
ain't waiting around like Jeannie.
I'd sold that shit. 50 years ago for 400.
What else? What else? What else? What else?
What else? In news opposite
of that, Sebastian Telfear says
the $20 million that he made. He made.
in his career was not a lot of money when you really break it down he went on the pivot
show and said I feel like we hear this story a lot from professional athletes yeah yeah I get
it I keep hearing it and then when you hear all of I can watch on the show
I know you've seen at least 20 I don't know the big picture really what you've seen
but you've seen 20 grown men like don't just say bad investments like how did you run
through 20 I never saw 20 and just
Just thinking about it like my thing when I see dudes and I'm talking to him like bro if you got 10
Then you got eight then you got six
Then you got four
Then you got eight hundred thousand like you you can see that money
I mean like
New Japan
Something is going wrong with this financial plan
That's a good question and no excuse
No excuse so I played 10 years you said I made 20 we all know about uncle Sam
Ray so what's that 10 that's 10 already
Right, so that's about a million a year.
They ain't no money.
That's the real truth.
The real truth is I ain't really make no money.
I hate that he does that, but I know he feels like.
They called me the pocket watch on the show.
Oh, sorry.
I really ain't make no money.
So people are like, oh, I understand how you're looking for crazy from, you know.
I'm like, I ain't make Floyd Mayweather and the money.
I didn't make the type of money where it's like I'm going to go crazy because I don't have it today.
That's the real truth.
If you do the matter, that's a $1 million a year.
Parks is right.
I do feel like this conversation comes up every four to six months.
Now, it frustrates me in a couple ways.
You know, the conversation frustrates me in a couple ways.
I get the point that he's making, right?
If you don't make money or don't have access to that money or that world where everything costs more
and you have expenses that people don't imagine, you've got to take care of,
you got all this shit, you got agents, you got all.
I mean, there's a lot of things you got to do.
I get how people underestimate how fast that money can go away.
It's easy to run through a million dollars a year.
I get that.
But I don't want us to believe, or I don't want to communicate to people that that means that this was unavoidable.
A million dollars a year after taxes is a lot of fucking money.
You could buy a house.
You could make a conservative investment that would ensure that you have an annual income forever.
Yeah, like you could
That's less conservative than I would go
But sure
And so it's a mix of
Yeah, it ain't that much money
But it's a lot of money
It's a lot of money
It's a lot of money
And financial responsibility
Is the part that I want
The conversation I want to hear
Is about here's what I could have done differently
So that when these young people watch
These young athletes watch it
They don't make the same mistakes
Because you're going to make mistakes
But we should make new mistakes
And I find that we're making the same mistakes
when it comes to money.
And even outside of athletes,
just anybody who's making money,
really at any level,
but particularly of any higher tax bracket level,
like,
I think you're absolutely right.
Like,
let's talk about how do you spend it properly?
Yeah,
that's all I'm saying.
I do understand that,
because there's a lot of expenses
that we don't think about,
like trainers and nutrition and travel
and all types of shit that comes with.
It's not a million dollars a year neither.
Like,
you got,
uh,
agent fees,
you got this,
you got that,
you got to pay NBA dues,
like all of that stuff you got to pay
he just was on some
real round number shit
it's less than a million dollars
if you average it out what their net
take home pay is it's less
but Mark's point is right
financial literacy should be the message
that you're but he just answered the question
that they asked right you get what I'm saying
not just that you got to do
no he didn't see that's my point is that he
yes he did to me to me he's if I
don't know a lot about this and I'm a fan
watching this what I hear him say is I ran
through the money because it's not a lot of money.
It's not a money not to run through.
He did answer the question.
I, like Mark, would have liked to hear him
come to a different epiphany.
I think, I think two things could be true.
I made a million dollars in a lot of money.
It's not really answering the question.
But this is where I went wrong.
Like, he goes on to say,
I was taking care of 40 and 50 and 60 people.
That's the answer.
Yeah, but we only play the clip.
But keep going on.
I mean, I could play the rest of it.
I'm just saying like, and what needs to be brought into this picture is when you come from these communities, bro, you are so far behind to even get to a level of relaxation, you might have spent three or four million just to get to where you peacefully can sleep at night.
What you mean?
I don't love that.
Give me an example.
I'll give you one.
I don't know how many siblings he has.
has.
I don't, I don't,
13, 14 brothers and sisters.
Cool.
So you sign a deal, your first deal might be
$4 million, $5 million, right?
You are now, by default,
the foundation for your entire
family, which us as men, we welcome
that. For sure. Like, if you could give your little
sisters college tuition, you came in and talked about
how your father said he's so happy that you
was able to send your kids.
I mean, your sister's to the Montessori program.
As a man, that shit feels good.
As a man, you take on those responsibilities.
I don't want us to just say,
yo, we can make this money
and cut everybody off in our family
because that's not the definition of manhood.
But you started with, if you're able.
Yeah.
So you don't think if you're in his position
that your career is not going to blossom
because life has shown you different.
So you think, yo, my next bag going to be 40.
My next bag going to be this.
Is it.
I'm not disagreeing.
Man, we just are.
Everything you're saying is exactly what I would have loved to hear from him.
Yeah.
I would have loved to have heard him say,
yo, at this point in my career,
I thought I had all the tomorrow's the time in the world.
I didn't plan properly.
I didn't do this properly.
When I hear niggas go through all this money,
listen, what I think is this.
I think, because I ain't going to tell nobody what to think.
There's a lot of money to some people.
It's not a lot of money in some people.
If you think it ain't no money,
I don't think you should say it out loud.
That's the part of that.
Not today.
Not with what's going on out there.
based on his live experiences.
Again, maybe that was $800,000 a year for him.
Right?
But again, let me finish.
Yo, dog, you're not going to have your mother
living in Coney Island projects.
You're not.
I don't get to fuck what nobody says.
I'm with you on that.
But you're not by $50,000 change.
They don't have to go from one extreme to the next.
We're not going from one extreme to the next.
He lives in Brooklyn.
If you go by your mother a moderate house in New York,
you're spending your yearly salary on that house.
Right, but when I said one extreme to next house.
Moderate.
But for me, it's the $50,000 chains.
It's cars and we, and you talk about a 21-year
old black kid from the inner city.
That is what all of a...
Everybody in here got changed and watches
and shit like that. And we don't make a million
dollars a year. But that's the responsible
that's my point, right? That's the
conversation. I'm not... I'm not being
unfair to it. I'm saying at 40, I just
want him to reflect on that out loud. That's all
I'm saying. Because the problem is if you say
I ran through the money because it wasn't that much money,
then a person, every athlete looking up
is going to say, well, if you're supposed to run through that,
like that's the natural outcome. And
for me, it's not. As opposed to
And it's a slap in the face when you say that's not a lot of money.
Right.
So people that have never, have never and maybe we'll never see a million dollars,
at least at one time.
That's a lot of fucking money.
That is a slap in the face.
Especially even though I know people, my man from these, he's a street pharmacist.
One of, once a money around that figure.
And he's the same thing.
Not a lot of money.
And we kind of understood each other over that a little bit because it's not really a lot of
money.
His levels to shit, bro.
However, it changed his life.
Me and Joe had an argument.
He did this money too, just to be clear.
So it wasn't just, 19 was just the NBA salary.
So he actually ran through even more.
And also, I understand if his career was two or three years long.
He had to, he said 10 years.
Yeah.
Like, I understand blowing those first couple checks, those first couple years.
Yo, he has kids.
By year eight, you should.
Bro, but he had kids.
He was married.
It's a lot of expenses that come along with that.
I agree.
that the financial literacy piece needs to be expressed
to the young people that are coming up
so they can learn from the mistakes that you made.
I agree with that,
but we also are talking about a 21, 20...
He might have been 19 when he went to the league.
Probably, yeah.
I'm not cascating him for losing the money.
He got to the league.
We talked about 10 years of it,
and I feel like it's about where you come from.
So if you grow up and everybody got money,
you know what I mean?
Or you grow up and your friends' people had a lot of money.
And if your friend's family had a lot of money,
if he's from the inner city like y'all say
I feel like at a certain point
if it's not that much money then why aren't you figuring out how to
flip it so it is more money you know what I mean
I feel like flipping money takes financial literacy
that we are saying that none of us really have
your family didn't give you an opportunity
or your family didn't pass down nothing
you learning on a fly as a 20s
I think she was saying years but not 10 years
29 is young
that's a crutch though that's a crutch
it is a crush when people from our neighborhoods
run into the
athlete entertainer money
one of the first things that I think you should do,
and a lot of people do do,
is they go get a business account.
Now, if that business account robs you,
then that's a whole different story.
But most people, because you're asking people,
when you say we're not financially literate,
it might not be enough time in the rest of some of these people's lives
to get the information that they lacking.
But you can go with that coin
and hire somebody that is going to protect you and your money.
You can.
And when people talk about going broke,
I never hear, I never hear, yo, my accountant told me not to.
Yo, I was going to buy these chains.
I was going to take care of my 30, 40 siblings.
My accountant expressed against this vehemently.
I never hear that part of it.
And we talk about this 20 million and 10 million,
all these large numbers, but it's niggas I know at a much lower scale
that could benefit from having an accountant.
But niggas don't be wanting to share that money.
niggas don't be one to go in their pocket
and pay somebody else for something that they feel like
is not a problem, it's not detrimental
or something they can't handle themselves
and it's a crock of shit.
It's a crock of shit.
Get a fucking accountant, yo.
Accountants also...
And what you pay that accountant
is relative to what the fuck you make.
I was just about to say real quick,
accountants don't be that expensive.
Because it could be scary to someone.
That's one of the big, that's one of the things
that's scary out there is you hear accountant
and be like,
oh, I don't have a lot.
that or I'm not going to do that.
It don't have to be that expensive again.
It's relative to what you make.
If you make 70 grand a year, if you make
50 grand a year, I'm just throwing numbers at a wall.
How much do you think the accountant is going to charge you a year
to run your shit? And you probably get that money back
in what you save long term.
A good account is going to make you some money.
Bro, accountants and financial advisors is different.
That's one. And then number two,
we hear enough stories about niggas in the NBA
and niggas in professional sports.
that get raped and robbed by their accountants.
The same, so there's already a stigma and a sour taste in people's mouths when it comes to that.
But again, I don't know, we go in the circles, but, yo, as a young black man from the-
I don't think we are, I think we introduced you information.
No, I'm just saying, but as a young black man from the inner city, bro, we could tell everybody what they can't do.
He played 10 years.
He got out the league at 28-29.
At 28-29, I wasn't, and I had more financial information.
than most, I wasn't financially smart or sound or any of that in my 20s.
I think that's an unfair thing to say to this man that, yo, he should have known better.
But I don't think anybody's saying that.
I think our conversation isn't about the shoulders for him back then.
It's the shoulders now in terms of how he's talking about it.
And how he's talking about it.
I want the best for him, but I'm really just saying you have perspective now.
You know what I mean?
Give it.
Yeah, exactly.
Because that's what this generation of kids.
But if his mood is, if his vibe is still, it wasn't a lot of money.
You know where he's he in.
You're saying still, see, that's the part that gave me.
I wonder if at that age he thought that wasn't a lot of money when he was getting it.
I don't think it's possible.
Yes, it is.
$1 million a lot different.
But I'm saying, looking back, not when your cousin is Stefan Marbury, not when you're surrounded by certain niggas.
Look.
If somebody came up to him today and dropped a million dollars in his lap, I think he would think
it's a lot of money.
A thousand percent.
Yeah.
A thousand percent.
Because now he has experiences, perspectives and education.
Yep.
Right?
That he didn't have.
And I wonder what he would do with it.
And I feel like time, y'all, it doesn't matter.
It's 10 years of fucking it up.
That doesn't matter.
Like, at no point you're supposed to wake the fuck up.
That's what I was trying to say.
Like the first couple years, I get it.
Yes, that makes sense to me.
But if 10 years, you're still not kept, because we talk about 10 years midway, we ain't really
got a savings.
We don't handle investments.
We had a point in halfway of 10 years, we still had a point that if these needs
don't work, ain't more money coming in and we fuck because we're not saving
that and we're not flipping nothing.
Like, yes, I expect you to kind of wake the fuck up.
financial literacy or not.
I think you expect you to like bounce with it like wake up.
And you know what happens a lot of time?
I'm sorry, go ahead.
No, you're getting into a hole and you can't get out of it.
You've created debt.
You've created responsibilities for other people and that.
You're going to tell your wife you got to go from a G-wagon to a Honda.
Right.
That's a hard.
It's a hard conversation.
It's a hard one.
You're going to take your kids out of private school and send them to public school.
Because guess what?
You're going to downsizing your house.
It's a lot to ask.
Because the other side of that is not telling the bitch nothing.
And the sheriff come to get you out the house.
Yeah.
So what the fuck?
I'm going to tell you, bitch, you get into Honda Odyssey
or the sheriff's about to get you out
this motherfucking king's eyes.
You know what I mean?
That's what I'm saying.
Like, I get everything you're saying
and I understand, but I just feel like
the way his attitude is why he's talking now
combined with the fact that you, it was such a long fuck up.
Like, I just, I don't know.
And I do think, like Joe said,
it turned into like a crutch a little bit
or it turns as well, I didn't know.
Motherfuckers are so honest about being fucked over
and so many people are in controlling
what they got going on
because they've been fucked over.
because we share the information with each other.
It's like, nigger, come on, bro.
And I don't know shit after a certain while.
It's like I tell my kid, hey, where's your code at?
I don't know.
Well, who job is it to know?
Who the fuck is supposed to know but you?
Like, once you get all the money,
who job is it to know what to do with this stuff but yours?
Yeah, we got that same expertise we develop on our cars,
on our jewelry, on houses, music,
all that shit that we can become experts on through Google and YouTube.
and we become scientists about some shit,
about our weed.
Like, we could figure that shit out at some point.
Again, I'm not criticizing poor people
for making bad financial decisions.
The system is designed to make sure that you stay in there.
I'm just saying we can do something about it collectively.
That's our job, right?
As old heads to let these young people.
Where you left?
I'm saying it's our job as old people,
old heads, excuse me, to intervene.
I'm saying now as an old head,
I just want him to speak back,
for the company excluded,
to lean back to these young folk
and say something to them.
I have a question now.
Because all of y'all, none of y'all
are the only child, right?
Just me.
As a motherfucker with no siblings,
I mean, my father had a couple children,
fuck them, who cares?
As a motherfucker that grew up alone.
Wait, fuck dad because he did his numbers?
No, fuck them children, man.
In regards to me, talk about me growing up.
I'm joking.
I have siblings, but they're much younger than me.
So, like you said earlier,
we were talking a little bit off-caring.
My little sister's more like my daughter
because we're so far apart.
But I'm saying to y'all,
at what point do that sibling shit?
it's like whoa
because if you got
14 motherfucking siblings
you're supposed to buy all 14
house or is it your brother
that you slept in the bunk bed with
because if we're real far apart
and I had already moved out
when you motherfuckers was growing up
I don't even know y'all like that
some of them
niggas might have all grew up
in that house together though
and that's why I'm exce y'all
because y'all got siblings
do y'all owe every fucking sibling
you have the same fucking
take care?
No you might go by one big house
for your mother
and your family
you might go buy one big house for your mother
in your family.
But not a responsible.
Who are you responsible?
If y'all are all from the dirt field to Kentucky,
and y'all grew up,
because everybody's story just seems so fucked up.
And we're the worst.
We had to walk five miles to the mailbox,
barefoot in the rain.
It'd be one-ten bedroom in a decent neighborhood.
All y'all move in till we can afford better.
Again, the athlete problem,
and the problem, just to close us up,
is, again, everybody assumes that tomorrow is going to be better than yesterday.
And it's not always true.
It's just not.
Don't close it out on some big shit.
I like where Mona was going.
I'm sorry.
I want to ask y'all.
No, that was a great question.
When do y'all, because you got siblings?
You got siblings.
I don't remember if you have siblings.
You got siblings.
I do.
I got siblings.
When do y'all show up and be Captain America for your siblings?
Like, do you know what I'm trying to say?
Most people.
Like my brothers know when she get real, if there's like an emergency, you can break the glass.
You different, though, bro.
You different.
You are different.
Why, y'all?
Because he rich?
No, because he don't give a fuck.
Oh, he changed.
Get it how you get it?
No, that's him.
He's always been that way.
A lot of people take care of their families, bro.
A lot of people.
And again, I don't want this to fall off of this is what we are telling men to do today.
We're telling men to be the providers and the protectors of their families.
And when we do it.
Sometimes that could be the downfall of.
I'm not disagreeing.
Most times, part.
Yo, dog, you are thinking you doing what you should do for your family, bro.
You see a family.
I'm really curious about what y'all think about.
siblings, your brother and sister, because I don't have any.
It's a real question.
I'm with you, and I get what he's saying, it's just like, once we all grown and
I'm between issue and Joe.
I'm going back to a bonus point.
But I'm not obligated.
Everyone's got this massive sob story, and sometimes it's very, very true.
But sometimes, like, your sister might have a good job and is doing pretty good.
You don't have to support their lifestyle.
That's true.
Yeah, that's true.
Everybody doesn't need the fucking, even some people that need you to be the,
Superman, you maybe shouldn't be Superman for.
I'm not disagreeing.
And it's how often they need, like, you got to show up.
That's what I'm saying.
My brother has a really, really, really, really, really good job.
Both my brothers got a good job.
My older brother got a really, really, really good job.
I thank God every day for that too.
I'm so happy that he is doing.
No, serious.
You're such a dick.
No, that's done.
I think God that, I mean, my mom.
That hell got to call my phone.
Or my mom's phone.
for none of that shit.
Like, my mom could chill
knowing that both her kids
are doing great.
And if something go wrong,
I mean, then we'll talk.
Of course.
But I didn't tell you
to make them improvements on your house.
See, it was the other side.
Say, look.
So, look.
So, look, for real,
he wouldn't make some improvements.
See, trying to be grown with some money.
And they got two cars.
Two nice cars.
No, he wouldn't try to make
some house improvements.
Like, he made some.
He did college.
That man, that name you're doing it.
Wow.
Now on the other side.
And now they raised the taxes.
I didn't know. Who knows that?
Me.
You find out.
Who knows that if you make an improvement?
They doubled mine.
No, they killed my brother.
They doubled mine.
You ain't hear me?
Double.
What a room you mean, though?
I put a second floor on my house.
Oh, yeah.
Yo, when are we going to have that episode talking about the improvements that niggas be trying to make on their house and what it actually does to your tax bill?
Yeah.
A second floor.
Okay.
My brother told him that's an outside.
door outside deck.
They decked you, I.
They decked you. They don't pay them people
their money. But no,
Mark is a prime example, and I
don't know disrespect. Mark made some improvement.
One of Mark's brothers. My tax is double
with that fucking backyard. One of Mark's brothers is
a lawyer, and they tax is highest giraffe pussy
up there. But one of
Mark's brothers is a prominent attorney.
One of Mark's brothers is not
so prominent financially.
So now, if Mark became
a $20 million dollar man,
Which he, you know.
On his way, too.
He's not far from.
He's close.
He's on his way.
Continue the story.
You don't feel like you, you, I don't want to say obligated or, oh, but you don't
feel like it would be responsible to make sure your other brother.
I mean, that's what I've always done.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But you can't ask Mark that because he's a sucker.
No, no, no.
Mark is still paying the lady that gets his text from his old.
Yes, Mark, you can't ask Mark.
That lady puts money in Mark's pocket.
Exactly.
No, Mark is a sucker MC.
Mark is sweet.
Mark is sweet.
Mark is sweet.
No, but in the middle, I'm somewhere in the middle as I get older about it because now I'm also like I'm not going to throw good money after bad.
I have to draw a line when people are adults.
You know what I mean?
So for my brother, I have another brother too who's doing fine.
My sister passed and she was doing fine.
So he's kind of been the one we were worried about.
I remember right before my dad died, one of the things he said to me was I'm so glad he works with you at the time.
He was working at my bookstore because I was always worried about.
how things would turn out.
So I feel a certain kind of obligation
to make sure that he's okay.
But he fumbled that a couple
times. So now, and he's obviously incarcerated
right now, so my goal is now to make sure
his kid is okay to make sure that
there's something in place long term. That's my goal.
I can't take care of him at 49 years old.
Gotcha. I got to make sure
that kid costs. Yeah.
Bro. Yeah. Yeah. And I do feel a certain kind of duty to that.
But in general,
because that's an extreme case,
do feel like when you hurt a certain age, it's more like break the glass in case of emergency.
True.
Like if I got 20 million and you got a regular job and I don't mean, I mean just a good
middle class, a middle class job.
I don't feel like I have to buy you a house or a car at all.
At all.
At 20 million.
That's what I was trying to say.
At 200, I would do it.
I sort of feel like I have to.
Yeah, I would feel compelled.
I would feel like I had to, but I wouldn't write that as a rule.
True.
That's all I'm saying.
I don't think it's the same as if your kid, if people's in a homeless shelter.
Yeah, dog.
every or if they
I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm gonna be playing music I've been trying to get this in I'm gonna say it
anyway you can turn down a little bit please I was
trying to say that oh kitty got claws
wow
I don't care
Nicky got claws I hate y'all
spicy yes that was nuts
that was nuts that was nuts I'm gonna shoot back at him on Patreon
I'm gonna get them but no or you put them in position
to try to help him out like like my younger brother
he he no kids
wasn't in college didn't know what the fuck
he was doing. I put him in trade school.
Graduates, now he
owns his own business, and now he don't have
to call on you as much. You know, you do it that way.
Now we own some of that business.
Executive producer. Right?
Oh, that's not what he said.
Hey, ICE, that's if your people can't call back.
But you're saying, you give them that shot.
That's what I told me. And that's why I told my brother.
Because he might come in his brother in trade school.
But if they got them to manage your bookstore.
Right. Is that maybe more? Or your brother going to still all the tools
from my intake. But then after a certain amount
of times, it's like, yo, all right, now I got to
What can I do?
What can you do?
You look out for the kids.
Like you said, that's it.
It's all you can do, man.
You can't keep taking care of grown folks, though.
And I feel like in that case,
sibling or not.
When you do have it like that,
that's something my motherfucker can't turn down
because when your brother comes,
it's like, yo, but I did do this for your son.
It's like, he can't say nothing of that.
Yeah, he's grateful for it.
Because that's something that he lacks on.
Thank God you doing that for me.
Now I ain't asking you for $20.
I know you got holding my son down.
I respect that.
I feel like they respect it.
But I'm getting a lawyer to write up stuff
so he can hand deliver to my family members
and my friends that we're done.
Like once the money touch...
You cutting them?
Yes.
I want a lawyer to walk to the door and say,
hey, here's...
Like, it depends.
Like, my father...
You're going to bring them off?
$3,500.
Yeah.
What grandma going to get?
My mom, I might offer her $15,000.
But the offer is you sign a check
for a permanent NDA.
We don't know each other
and we're not related.
Wait, how much money you got?
Well, like, once I get here...
I'm going to get my mother 15,
Ben.
I would just give you an example
that, like, it's levels of how much of a loser you are.
So some people I might come,
The lawyer might show it with $8.50.
You know what I mean?
Some people are the lawyer going to call you because we're going to cash at you.
Others, we got to knock at the door with a check.
You know what I mean?
My grandma won't get a dip or not.
All right, no.
It's joking.
I would never get my grandmother murder.
You're going to wait her out.
My grandmother would do an interview with.
My grandmother was dirty.
I'm telling you all.
My grandmother do an interview about you tomorrow.
I said, we did it, y'all.
Oh yo, you might can sing if you put your heart into it.
I can sing at cause.
I hear it.
Them raspy, motherfucking knocking out.
This nigga think he'd only one good on the mic.
Paws, balls.
Oh, man.
I like when we let him rock.
And then, okay, go ahead.
Tell your home girl next Friday is the day, yo.
It's time.
Let's go, boy.
It's time next Friday.
I might fry y'all some chicken.
I might fry y'all some chicken.
Not with the chicken lies.
Girl.
So what?
She said, might, though.
Right.
That also means might not.
You might get with your, I just love the idea of making all that food.
and this motherfucker can only eat a string bean.
He ain't the only motherfucker up here.
I like the fact that he can't eat any,
so I have to do it by that OZIPIC
is running through his, you know?
This one?
I think we did it.
We did it.
We definitely did it.
Real good day, real good day, real good day,
real good day, good energy, good vibes,
good people, good folks.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey, let's go, Mona.
Hey, let's go, Mona.
The Superfax.
It might be a problem.
You see I should be looking back at the number.
You on the phone with it anyway.
Wait for them up for the copse.
Hey, you're on the phone with it without the Superfat ass.
Yeah, that's my friend.
You're looking back like.
I got it.
I don't like this fat-lip-thin.
All right, so we're not saying it anymore.
Fuck that ready, nigga.
Oh, okay.
Listen, man, hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there until the next time.
We bid you would do.
Farewell.
Adio, Sariva Dertchi, Austina, what the fuck is that?
Hey!
What the fuck is that?
Hey!
That high step on niggins.
Oslo Bisa, Riva, Durche, Arvoa, so long, goodbye, and all that.
Hey.
Hey.
Outside with y'all bitch, homie be on, I can't defunct you.
Yeah, but y'all just don't know.
That's how we post a jeep.
Call them for a feature just to kill them because we know he's sick.
Who the fuck.
Remember life is a series of moments and moments past, so let's make this one last.
if it's all we have.
Until the next time.
Last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure,
the stagnant women want to travel and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things.
Grab you with Tylenol, you might hear.
This is on my new gym playlist.
Hey, whoa, wait till tomorrow, nigga, we in the gym.
Wait till you see my playlist.
What the fucking is that?
Yo, it's the weekend.
I know it's a snowstorm.
What's everybody doing this weekend?
Mona, where your show's at?
I know you got something the night.
tonight as in Saturday night.
No, we had the Stress Factory,
King of Prussia,
the 23rd.
All right.
Mark ish, ice, parks.
What are you going to look like?
Studio.
This is my kid.
I'm going to buy 20 bags of salt tomorrow.
I call a couple of the homies like,
yo.
I think I'm still trying to get free salt.
You gonna go shovel?
You can pay for the cell?
No, the hustler and me want to go get a box truck.
Oh.
And go buy all the Home Depot's out.
I'm off.
I'll pop out.
I got ACG boots.
What's up?
Yo, the hustler of you want to go about 15, 20 worth of salt.
Let's get it.
Freeze what you on this weekend.
What you on this weekend?
35.
My girl.
Hey.
Not from here.
Snipsy.
Parks is working, parks in the studio.
Yeah, I'm locking it.
I know what these guys are doing.
And that's out.
And that's it, man.
Y'all hold it down until next time.
Keep us in your prayers or don't.
Cock sucker.
Beat it.
We don't care.
Hit that little bit from the back.
Past control who caused our rax
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