The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 898 | "Revenge Served Cold"
Episode Date: January 28, 2026The JBP kicks off episode 898 with a recap of their weekend with the snow storm (11:50) before moving to Tracy Morgan going viral for an interaction with a homeless man (25:42). Joe reads a breakdown ...of what your income actually means (43:00), Jim Jones says he made Kid Cudi's career (1:02:00), and Kanye West issues an apology via the Wall Street Journal (1:19:00). Also, Alex Honnold free climbs Taipei 101 on Netflix (1:42:07), Akademiks vs. Lil Baby (1:55:20), Derrick Rose's jersey retirement (2:09:02), Joe has some words for Hip-Hop following Alex Pretti's killing in Minneapolis (2:20:35), Chad Hugo sues Pharrell (2:51:00), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden
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Eyebrows got a price.
Is that the only thing Rich means?
No.
Okay, so what are you talking about it like that?
You got them done?
Yes.
Somebody in there.
She said Rich has eyebrows.
I thought you went down to death.
I knew that's where the eyebrows spot is.
That's true.
It's an eyebrow spot in Livingston?
Somebody.
You wouldn't know better than me.
My wife go.
And Mark.
You're both light skin.
I figured y'all might hit the same.
That's a good one.
That's what your wife's called.
Same threader.
There's nothing wrong with getting your eyebrows done.
Somebody in there got their eyebrows done before.
I wouldn't judge.
I mean, I would, but I mean.
I would judge.
I did when I was younger.
You might have to narrow.
And they got younger done with my eyebrows done.
I got a wax before.
And then I got to thread it.
They was like, yo, you look.
You were living.
Niggas in the hood got at me for getting that shit wax.
I went to get it threaded to be less inconspicuous.
And then somehow you just stopped grooming everything.
That happened at the same time.
They picked on them too much.
Trauma.
He got trauma from.
Eyebrow trouble.
I didn't really.
It works.
That's crazy.
Yeah, my eyebrows, I'm not afraid to say it.
Did the girls like it?
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah, they liked it back in the days.
Back of the days.
I don't like that shit now, Nick.
Back in the days for him, too, be like when he was eight.
Nah, back in the days, like when I was like, a team,
18, 19?
Slow down, slow down.
You get high.
You better lower the numbers, d'all.
We're on your team.
Yeah.
I don't know what that mean.
15.
You're doing that.
You're doing that Foxy Brown affirmative action, man.
15, 15.
So I'm 38.
Yeah.
So being 20 is not back in the days, right?
Just, just, fuck old it.
It is back in the days.
Stop doing this little inside jokes.
No, no, no.
We protect it.
It is back in the day.
You've been married since you're 18.
Yeah.
I've been married since I was 21.
Oh, okay.
Oh, it changed.
Yeah, it did.
You know, I had my first son that.
I had my first, I had JR 16, so they're different.
Facts.
Facts what?
I'm saying, that's a fact.
Hey, my nigga, you're good?
I'm great.
You're a nigga, you got you.
Stop trying to starve with me today.
You can't move.
You can't move or do anything because your situation is different.
You know what I'm saying?
I know you want to live through me.
I can move, right?
I can still be outside.
My wife is home. I can still be outside. I can still go around. You know what I mean? I could go outside. I could drive. I can do what I got to do. Our situations is different. You know what I'm saying? And I'll be home, but I can go outside. I'm saying? And I'll be home, but I can go outside. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to make sure I let my man know that I can just walk outside the door. You know what I'm saying? Just remind him how what it feels like. He can live through me though. He can live through me. It's all right. You know what I'm saying? Flip is your proxy. That's this.
Because of our recent weather conditions, I try to come in here, like, just smooth, melancholy just...
On chill, no, but you don't believe that.
Right.
You think I want to move, like, how...
I do.
I do.
Freedom, freedom.
Freedom is, you know...
But freedom to do...
To live life.
But you think I want to live, you think that's like a...
That's a goal here.
You think the life you laying out there is one.
that I want to emulate?
Of course.
Okay.
Of course, man.
I show you better than I can tell you now.
You know, I leave little bread crumbs around as you can see.
Don't say nothing.
Look, just move it on.
You get ready to get it.
No, because shooting at you would hurt other people.
I don't get, we shouldn't care about them.
No, man.
It's not about that.
You don't want to collateral damage.
And I love you.
It's early in the year.
Okay.
You're not going to trick me into being divisive.
Too much device from this floor.
You're not going to trick me into being unfriendly
to exhibiting all these characteristics
that I don't even think it's fly at this age, man.
Got you.
You're going to hold you.
I'm on some smooth shit at 45.
Don't smooth this.
I want some smooth shit.
We'll talk about it.
We'll talk about it.
What's up?
You're good, good, good, good.
Good, good, good.
Levels up, levels up, levels up.
Good to be all the house.
Levels, the levels, the levels, the levels are good.
The levels are good, the levels are good, mic check, one two, one, two, one two.
Turn me up and the headphones, yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir.
It's one of them songs I tried to hate on when it first came out,
but then it was too much fun in the streets.
It was way too much fun in the streets when this was out.
Oh.
Boy, the women were easy back then.
Hey, oh my God.
O-T, what I'm a boy?
I got it for the loo
Shout to wherever you might be listening from
I'm in love
Shout to the patronies out there
All the subgroups out there
Ah, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
No, daddy
I got it for a loo
Turn up
I'm in love
Isan listen
Watch now
Bones piece full of rocks now
Boy got joints
You know by this freeze
Hoare Brooklyn, what up, what up, what up
Nubbinoon
You're in the score this wrong
He got a daughter in Barcelona.
What smoke than I bring it?
I ain't talking stoner.
Uh, uh, uh, don't be a gun.
Rock on ain't gonna do that freeze.
Mic check, mic check.
Rock on ain't gonna play no chef, she, knock it off.
Knock it off, freeze.
Knock it off, it's me.
You know, it's me. I'm here today, man.
Fuck is going on out there.
We get these drops out the way so I can introduce
the best crew in the world, man.
Let me get these drops.
What are?
What is that?
Icee
You're
icy
fish
And flip
Flip flip
What episode is this
898
Welcome to episode 898
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I'm your humble
grateful gracious
Really happy to be here
host here with a few
Really good people
To my right
Queens get the money
You know the vibes
Queens flip is in the building
Next to him our good brother
Dr. Mark Lamont
Hill is in the building.
Yes, sir.
Next to him, our good brother ish,
Mr. Thousand Doors and Up is in the building.
Next to him, Mr. Take it further, himself.
Freeze to Freeze is in the building.
Next to him, our good brother, Parks, is in the building.
Poe is here.
Corey is here.
Erickson is here.
And Savani here by remote last,
but certainly not least each and every one of you guys out there at home.
Most of you should be at home.
Well, no, kids had to go back to school.
Shee.
Kids had to go back to school.
Depends on what side of the river you?
No, they didn't.
No?
No.
Yeah, no.
They sent that notice yesterday.
Yep, no school again today.
I was so happy to have to come in here.
I would have cried.
I left early this morning.
If I got his notice,
I was complaining about two hours late.
We started two hours late.
I had to drop off at 1030.
I had a delay opening, too.
It wasn't no full out day.
Yeah, I had enough.
I had enough the day before.
I'm good.
You didn't take him outside of playing the snow or nothing?
I put him outside.
I put him outside.
Apparently, you got to go with him.
Yeah, you got to go with him.
We got a yard.
I didn't know.
I think I said I put him outside.
It's fucking 12 inches of snow.
Just not.
Just not.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, man.
I was so ready to drop his ass off this morning, man.
It was good, though.
No, that was cool.
I don't blame you, boy.
My baby mother could not be happier was my weekend on the snowed in.
Oh.
On the snow then?
Like, you actually got to spend time with this little motherfucker and watch them and learn them.
Oh, Lord.
And shout to the last minute.
shoppers out there. Whatever I bought on
Thursday and Friday,
oh boy, I needed way more than that.
Oh, I had to go. Yeah. Really?
I was totally unprepared for the war shopping.
For the appetite on these children.
I was prepared, but then I was making soup, and I was
caramelizing the onions, and I burnt them.
So I had to go out in about 6 p.m. on Sunday in the middle
of the blizzard. What?
caramelized with onions. Damn.
Oh, poor part.
And then the grocery store next to me wasn't open, so I had to go to the other one.
It was not fun.
It was not fun.
To get onions.
To get onions.
My man.
That's crazy.
I was using the shit of them Uber drivers, man.
I kept them all cash when they got there on top of it because I knew how hard
to ride it was for them.
But I was definitely using all that shit.
That had so much kings in my house.
Oh, that shit wasn't working.
All that shit was closed.
Yeah.
It wasn't working in my hood.
No Uber drivers.
No Uber eats.
I ordered something.
This shit came five hours later.
Yeah, that sure wasn't working.
Something like that.
But humans and our ability to survive and adapt.
Boy, bring me back to when I was stuck in poverty.
When in that kitchen.
Back to that tuna.
Boy, y'all, I forgot.
Sometimes you forget you that nigger, boy.
Y'all can't fuck with me on some just sausage, egg, and cheese shit.
Wait, what?
I eat that on the norm, nigga.
I don't know what you say.
A couple burgers.
Some pancakes, potato.
Just on some what in here, chef?
Yeah, you know.
Figure it out.
Yeah.
Figure it out.
Oh, I ain't done that so long.
It looked good, too.
I've seen you post some shit on Instagram.
Was that fried bologna or bacon and some shit?
Spam?
That wasn't spame.
Sausage.
No, that was the good old go-to.
Sausage with the mustard.
The mustard.
Sausage with the mustard.
Classic.
Oh, y'all, it warrants my heart.
Some shit is just a ghetto classic, dog.
You got to do it.
You got to do it from time to time.
Yep, so me and my man, everything was cool.
Everything was cool.
And then I'm like, I'm dropping this little Monsdale off.
Annie Reddit.
Daddy had me
eating his bullshit sausage.
He ate me out of house and home.
I'm hitting her like,
yo,
I think I can make it to you tonight.
She's like,
nah,
tomorrow afternoon it's fine.
I'm like,
you're not understanding.
We've eaten everything.
Everything I have to offer
this little motherfucker is gone.
You name it.
Fucking Quaker oatmeal,
fucking checks.
Anything you can find
And it's gone
The rice banana
The rice cake shit
It's all it's done
We done
So yeah that was fun
Getting eating out of the house
No that shit
No my my dilemma was
Because I went to Maryland
On Thursday
Then I came
And then I came here on Friday
Talk heavy
Let's go boy
What you do about that
I didn't get a chance
To get no salt
So Friday night
My nigga
I'm outside
Two in the morning
Looking for salt
You couldn't find salt nowhere.
If you just searched internally.
You can find a salt in there.
What you do in Maryland, man?
If you just look deep, deep inside,
plenty of that.
So you're driving around 2 o'clock looking for salt?
On Sunday?
That's a good excuse.
Did you workshop this one?
You got to get a better one than that.
I'm on the phone with my girl.
You know how when you get older,
your lies fall off?
I think I found some salt.
I call you back.
No.
I can find.
Right here.
I see a whole deep.
I see a whole deep.
It's 24 hours.
The niggas were selling the little baby bags of salt.
Wait, which one?
The $25.
I mean, 25 pounds.
Niggas wanted $25.
How bad you need it?
Niggas.
I bought five or six of them.
That shit was crazy.
Yo, the bum salt.
Did you go out shovel your...
Well, you did it.
You did it.
Searching and bought five and six?
Nick, that's all they had.
Oh, okay.
He bought the whole thing.
Yeah, that's all they had.
Talk heavy.
Did you go around and shovel your properties?
They had the little shit.
Yeah.
Only one.
They had,
the little shit was $19.
The little canister.
You ain't had no choice.
That's how he distracted him, though.
He highlights how expensive shit.
Nick, let's go back to what you was doing outside,
driving around.
What you were doing in Maryland?
What's up, nigga?
That's what I want to talk about.
I was trying to be a responsible landlord
to make sure my tenants was taking care of the next day.
Wait, you draw to Maryland to take care of your tenants?
I used to do that.
I said Friday.
I said, I said,
And then I said Friday.
I'm like,
you know.
Listen,
let me tell you some.
You better than this man.
That nigga lied
that he getting on
over the head is so bad.
I go all the way to Maryland
to go shovel some snow.
That's what I said.
This thing is,
you're a legend.
That's what I said.
I never met him like that.
That's not what you said too.
I was like,
we still don't know what he would do.
He put so much.
A bunch of fools.
He put so much unimportant.
He was a lot of filler
He's in too
I still don't know
Dodo
What was in Maryland?
I went to Maryland
Thursday
What was out there?
It didn't snow on Thursday
In anticipation of the snow?
Anyway
Lay that song down early
Yeah, never mind
You got a crib out there, right?
I'm cool, bro.
Oh, you're checking on the crib.
And they keep feeding it to
him to the tub.
He's not
telling your shit.
Hey, but if you know them long enough, you just know what's going on.
You know what's going.
That's my man, man.
Come on.
Oh, my God.
I'm glad everybody made it to work.
Say, how's anybody's vehicle?
Snowden.
I take an Uber here.
I shoveled it out twice, and then the plows came and just buried the bitch again.
When you shoveled, too?
I shoveled my car out because I was on the street.
Okay.
I shoveled a little bit on my front steps because I got women and children in the building
and no one was doing it yet.
So I'm like, I'm out here anyway.
You're a great guy.
That's nice.
Yeah.
I don't even if I own a shovel.
White guilt.
You salted?
White guilt.
That white guilt.
At least I could do.
I took the building.
I could take care of these steps,
you all.
Let me be shoveling.
I have one of the children.
At least I can do a shoveling.
Show out, y'all.
Leave that.
Please pause alone.
Who else was shoveling?
I ain't shoveling.
Did you put salt down?
Like a goddamn thing.
No, I didn't have salt.
But someone came eventually and brought salt.
So got you.
Okay.
Yeah, shoveling with no salt is useless.
I mean, not really.
It's better than nothing.
But it's cool.
Shit.
Nah, I shovel.
Guess who didn't do?
Absolutely.
No shoveling in the salt of, of,
and bark.
Well, I don't have to do, though.
Somebody's going to come and do the shoveling shit.
But, no, you guessed it.
My baby mama, boy.
Your baby mama?
And I got to carry this.
I got to carry him to the door.
I got hugs on.
Oh, shit.
Hey, she is maddeno, and she had three feet.
Snow up to my fucking thighs.
That shit was real.
Yeah, snow up to my thighs walk his little dick.
Oh, my God.
Oh, freeze.
That's your job.
You don't make too much money to be fucking shoveling, man.
That full time.
Dad.
That full time.
You know, no.
Oh, God.
So wrong with him.
Oh, God.
Shout out to the full-time dads out there.
Mark and Freeze.
You are an idiot.
That shit?
That shit?
Yeah.
And flip, nigga.
Huh?
And ish?
And flip bit it.
What?
Aish.
You know, watch your fucking.
This thing is crazy.
Hey.
Hey.
I wasn't even trying to do whatever you all to do.
You say my name too.
Yeah.
Flip too.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Totally.
Nick, you just started again, nigga.
Mark, you drove that car in the snow?
Yeah.
What jacket did you wear?
I didn't wear a jacket.
You didn't know this.
I didn't know this.
I didn't wear a coat.
Oh my God.
We're going to get to the truck.
Sunday I stayed in the house and I didn't, the guys who shovel,
because the same people do my lawn, do my shovel.
Oh, that's kind.
They didn't come, yeah, great guys.
They didn't, they didn't come out on Sunday, I guess, because it was still nasty.
But like 5 a.m., I'm on a.
I'm on a.
I'm on the couch sleep because I was, they just woke me up at 5 a.m.
All I heard was.
Hold on.
This spirited conversation still going.
Oh, no, no, no.
Yeah, look to watch TV, boy.
Would you watch a couch?
There's going to go.
I'm going to be.
You're watching bullshit.
What's going on in the home, everybody?
No, no. Home is great.
I fell asleep on the couch.
I was watching TV, because I was, and I just passed out on the couch.
You just go to the bedroom, watch TV in the bedroom.
You had the TV in the bedroom, right?
Yeah, because like the lounge is like right next to the, it's all part of one suite.
So, like, if I'm watching TV, she can still hear it in the, okay, guys.
You wanted to be considerate.
So I was down.
Wait, but so?
I don't want to wake her.
Wait, what is he talking?
Who paid the bills?
You pay the bills?
You pay the bills?
You got both paid.
I mean, we're a unit.
We're in this thing together.
Check it out on Patreon.
All right, so she's going to have to hear a little bit of this dayline.
Or I could go downstairs and watch it in the other room.
I mean, I guess.
I mean, I guess you could.
You're coming off of all those spirited conversations.
Yeah, you want to go downstairs.
Yeah, I didn't know what spirit.
You were your phone downstairs?
No, I was watching TV.
You sure?
On the thing.
And then I do.
What the phone?
Wait, with your phone with you?
We know that tree.
My phone was with you.
Oh, shit.
I didn't know what I was.
Wake up, because I was on the phone.
Hey, yo, she,
yo, she was, hold up.
Yo, one day we got to talk about that.
When niggas go in that basement.
It's crazy.
Yo, Mark, it is.
Y'all, how do I get in this?
Are y'all cool?
How do I get in this conversation?
I just want to know if y'all two are cool.
And he hang up quick, too, so I know his thing by the view of the quick thing.
Hold on, hold on.
God.
God is crazy.
His figure quick by that shit.
body and shit, yo.
No, man.
I'm just watching TV.
My wife caught me on the phone,
nigga before.
I can't do that shit.
I can't.
I'm the slowest swipe her up her.
She's going right up the bathroom.
See the bitch, right?
My big ass dumb.
I'm trying to be slow.
That's when the shit started dropping.
I'm like,
she's like, look at you stupid ass.
That phone shit.
Fuck that.
I'm going to talk to the car.
I don't swipe up fast enough.
I'll be getting caught, man.
You can't get caught?
You can't talk?
Shit.
What about your eyes?
They didn't say you get on the phone.
They get a hit.
That's when they appear.
All right.
You didn't see you for the whole day.
You want to appear when I get on the phone.
Nah, I got to get on some it shit.
You know what?
You know what?
No, that's when they pop up.
You should get on some shit.
It and not be on the phone.
And not be on the phone.
Exactly.
Wait, when did that become issue?
Have we changed the meaning of it shit?
Because you 50 now?
The exact definition of it should is be on the phone 24-7.
Not when you're not supposed to.
Or if you're not supposed to be on the phone.
Oh, yeah, please.
We can tell who not the doghouse?
Who's house is house?
That nigga, Bob.
It's okay, Bob.
I'm good.
Nice is great.
What you ate for dinner last night?
My brother going.
I order tacos.
It's a coincidence.
I cook last night too, Brad.
You want to eat.
Prius for anybody at home that's, I mean,
wink if you're in danger
ass.
A nigger going through it.
We had to eat tacos.
What type of tacos, boy?
Turkey shit, right?
With bologna, you fuck the bitch.
Bologna.
Tocos.
Yeah, I'll just probably sleep again.
She's not playing with that again.
She's fucking him up.
Yeah, because that show shit,
too, the show fire and the show fire.
We're having a great time, man.
There's nothing like working with your partner
adding more time together.
Another like.
Spirit of conversations on snow and it's
Tough.
No, no.
We actually got along great over that.
I mean, we're good.
We had a, we had a...
Yeah, you just went to the basement
and she went upstairs.
That's how you stay great.
Keep the peace, yeah, for sure.
Wait to you, wait to you in the same situation.
I'm telling you, like, and you two...
Yo, don't include me and on your talk, show.
Don't include me and out of your talk, so.
You're fucking up, man.
I'm at home, nigga.
Black talks on the phone.
Hey, hello?
I ain't got nobody talk to.
I'm just saying, like, the basement will keep your relationship going along.
That's a fact.
That's what I'm saying.
You know my basement.
I close that door?
Yep.
It's what they say.
This is what they say.
We know where you're on.
We can see.
It's on the wall, gang.
Listen, happiness is the key.
Yo, shout, do all you couples out there.
Y'all was snowed in together,
looking at your fucking part
in this stupid-ass face.
He treating that shit like it was COVID, man.
Like, yo.
Yeah, no, that shit was fucked up.
It was.
That shit was fucked up out there.
I went out there.
I went out there.
And you remembered how important geography was.
I mean, if you was close to Maine Ave
or a highway or somewhere
with some businesses,
they had to go.
hold you down.
You're like,
side blocks?
But if you was on one of them side blocks.
Night night.
One of them hills in New Jersey,
boy,
you could tuck that little car somewhere.
Word.
They wasn't giving a fuck on them wrong.
Oh, yeah.
Drive carefully out there.
Yeah.
That's what we got.
Drive carefully.
Hopefully everybody survived.
Everybody's alive and feeling good and great.
That was fun.
I can't wait to drive again.
All right.
You know,
you like,
not it's high.
It's high.
It's like four feet away from the door
and then like three feet high.
It's in there.
I can't move that bitch.
Yeah.
My shirt was crazy.
I wish you told me how I came and picked you up.
Just don't have my ass $90 Uber.
It's no, because you picked the nigga up.
It fucks up my nigga playing to move around.
I mean.
You got to do, I know that trick after your morning run.
I don't want those, niggins don't pick me up, man.
I'm good.
I might even use you and say, Mark, more.
I stop for bagels and bay on.
Come get me from that.
He act like you're the full, frigging.
Ice, what's the ice?
It's ice.
It's ice.
You come to get me?
I got you.
I got it.
I got it.
I got here to get to work this morning, game.
A Uber.
Hmm.
Call me next time, bro.
I got you.
Okay, so I feel like everybody's really excited to talk about Tracy Morgan.
Yes.
I don't know what happened with Tracy Morgan, so I'm excited to learn.
Tracy Morgan was so ill.
I thought it was fate.
Tracy Morgan was leaving the Nick game.
Uh-huh.
And he saw an old friend outside.
Well, old friend saw him outside.
Okay.
And you got attention.
Tracy, yeah, what's up?
Can you spare some change?
Oh, he was like...
Or something like that.
No, I think Tracy started it by saying, I don't owe you anything.
No, no, no.
That's not right.
Let's get the clip.
I'm going to play it all.
Someone videotape this whole interaction.
Outside the Knit game?
Outside the Knit game.
It's a page.
That's all they do.
With that VIP entrance where Papa Ransi and anybody is just standing there ready to...
So you know he's coming out of there.
And it do be a couple of the same people outside of there.
Here we go.
I think they live there.
We're always going to ask you on.
Tiger John.
Tiger is.
What I'm doing?
What's up?
I remember you.
Don't talk to me like I owe you something.
I didn't say.
That's all right.
So, please.
No.
We were younger.
Yeah, but I'm homeless, boy.
So what that got you do with me?
I can't do that?
Oh, shit.
So he said you did something bad to me when I was younger or something?
I was a hard man.
I remember what you?
Yeah.
I said, I remember how you spoke to me when we was younger.
You spoke bad to me when we was younger.
I didn't forget.
Oh, shit.
Fuck out of here.
And he was saying, but I'm homeless.
I didn't do that to you.
Yeah, he said, take care of my kids.
That's how I ended Tracy said.
It was, it was, there was some theories on the internet.
There were two.
One was that he was a, first everybody was saying he was a bully from his childhood,
which isn't true, I don't believe.
Okay.
A woman comedian jumped in, and again, it has been confirmed, but she says that this guy was a comic
who was on the scene.
They all came up together, like, when they were younger.
And he was, like, the shit talker.
asshole kind of dude who's now
falling on some pretty hard times. It's not the first time he's
falling on hard times. That seems
to be the story that is the most accurate, even though
hasn't been confirmed.
Okay, but how we feel about it,
though? I got to figure out, I'm in the middle.
I'm not bad at Tracy.
I'm on Tracy's on. Are you serious?
I'm in the middle.
Bro, the niggas up here are... I'm on Tracy's
If someone treated me like shit
when we was down and now I'm up
and you can't ask me for nothing?
Even if you homeless? I'm sorry.
Did I contribute to you being homeless?
You treated me like shit, well, I guess you didn't thought I'd get here.
I'm here.
He probably thought he wouldn't be homeless.
Right.
As I'm saying, you're not.
It should be a lesson to you to watch how you talk to people.
You never know when you might need them.
We got bigger hearts than that.
No, we don't.
No, we don't.
No, the fuck we don't.
You might have a bigger heart than that.
Nick, I'll just show you that, listen, man, I got a big heart.
I forgive you.
Some people be, like, real assholes.
Like, they don't have, like, some people are assholes that.
like you're just kind of being an asshole to be funny.
Some people are assholes like with a non-redeeming level of assoleness.
And no.
I wouldn't talk.
I want to talk to him like that.
That's what I'm about to say to these dudes.
Even if that's your position,
you would stand in front of the homeless dude after he says, I'm homeless and say,
well, I'm not.
Get the fuck out of my face.
Like, depending on how this nigga used to talk to me, absolutely.
You damn right.
You can say, I'm telling you something.
We don't know.
how that dude used to talk to Tracy?
And obviously Tracy knows, and I ain't forgot you.
Now you coming to me?
Nah, fam.
And Tracy don't really seem like a dickhead in general.
So if he feels this way, I'm pretty sure there's...
He seems very upset.
When you watch the video, he seemed upset.
It could be justifiable.
My thing is, I would have just took the high road and been like, I don't fuck a dude.
You know what I'm saying?
I wouldn't be littled him or berated him.
But he started with that.
But then you go and say, but I'm homeless.
Like, now you throw in a guilt on me.
He said, no, nigga.
I remember you.
I remember what you, you know what I mean?
Yeah, so I'm talking to, I remember you.
We're not cool.
I don't fuck with you.
Then you try to guilt me by saying, but I'm homeless.
Oh, well, I ain't got nothing to do with that.
But I can see how he said, like, I know we had beef,
but I'm not asking for $10 so I can grab a.
Yeah, I'm homeless and saying, yo, whatever we had back then, I lost.
You won.
You won.
You won.
I'm humbling myself.
My bad.
I'm sorry.
Life didn't turn out the greatest for me.
I know I did some fucked up shit.
I'm homeless I didn't take ass trying to guilt.
trip him. I thought he was saying, you know, this
should kind of trump. Yeah, yeah. And that's
the other thing about giving, right? Like, a lot
of times with giving for the heart,
it's in spite of your personal
feelings about giving.
Faire, y'all can say all of that.
Again, we do not know what transpired between
the two of them and he could be on a forever, it's
up list. And that's
just that. Some people have that list where
I do, yo, we hear, whatever
happens, don't, you already
know what happened between us.
You even coming to me is crazy.
I'm not speaking to nobody like that on camera.
That's the other thing.
And for what I understand,
the guy kind of intentionally,
strategically asked the question in front of the cameras
thinking he's going to get a better response.
Or to pressure you.
Like, even if you don't feel guilty,
you just might feel like I'm famous and I can't turn the way.
You put me on a spot.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm trying to say.
But now you're throwing me on the spot.
He could have said, no, dog, I pray for you.
Well, just do that by a million different ways.
Give me a number. I'll call you later.
You know what I mean?
Call the Tracy Morgan donation.
Exactly.
I mean.
There's just no way.
for it to look good when you when you are as up as Tracy Morgan is.
But sometimes again, back to whatever happened, I don't even care if I look good when it comes
to you.
We don't know what happened between them, y'all, and that is important.
It is.
So I'm giving Tracy Morgan a benefit of the doubt because he don't look like the person that
always does this.
He don't come off like an asshole.
So obviously there's something here with this particular person and the person knows.
So he's like, yo, I remember you.
You know me.
Don't ask me for shit
Are you crazy
This is a time and place
I guess it's really good
For me it depends on
You y'all was mean to freeze out there
No
No the funny part is
There's nobody on that list like that
Freeze used to be mean to people
And there are just mean to people
So my thing is at this particular point in time
That's like somebody holding a 15 year
Grudge against you for some shit
That you said and used to say some mean shit
The niggas-ish guess what they're
That's why you're part of them on
No that's a good point
They do though
That's the part you forgetting
They do
Wait, they do what?
There's people that have said,
nah, we're not fucking with you because it is.
And if you were homeless,
you wouldn't expect them to give it to you.
I just got to eat that.
That's what comes with it.
You're saying that with clothes on and fully.
I'm responding to his point.
He said, I used to be mean to people.
I'm telling you, me being mean to people has still affected me.
Even if I spoke into these,
there's people that's come up here that ain't really been fucking with me.
If you was homeless and we're not going to drag this,
but if you was homeless and seeing somebody that you were mean to
when they were up and they said,
You, fuck my dick, nigga.
I remember you get the fuck.
Like, it would hurt.
It would hurt.
That wouldn't feel good.
But he said that's awful for the best one.
I didn't say it's not.
Yeah, you got to accept that, though.
You know what you did.
It's your fault we're here.
I'm not going to say.
Or you could gain understanding from what you've been through
and therefore exhibit a different behavior moving forward.
Well, maybe apologize then.
Maybe just, maybe try to have a conversation
and apologize to the person instead of just right up to them asking for something.
But you know you wrong.
Accountability first.
Here's the thing about being an asshole, just from personal experience.
sometimes you're a jerk to so many people
that you don't even realize how you affected
that person. Like that guy might not even
remember it that way just like school bullies sometimes
don't realize how much they traumatize so much.
Dude might not even been thinking about that. He's like, yeah, we came
together as I'm just saying, as I understand the story.
We came up as comics like, yeah, we used to go back and you
and I used to fuck with you and clown you because of this that and this.
But like I'm fucking homeless. This has got to be bigger
than that. So the second he tells him,
like I said, I want to drive it. The second he says, yeah, but I
remember how you talk to me. That's
your reminder right there. Instead of you
taking accountability, you then flip in the
say, but I'm homeless.
So fuck all everything I did.
I'm homeless now.
You should just be on my side.
There was a guy when I was a senior.
As I'm thinking about, I didn't handle it well either.
There was a guy when I was a freshman in college at Morehouse.
He was my roommate.
He was a dickhead.
And on the last day, I had kind of started moving into the cult.
And I remember the last, when I got back to the dorm to get my shit,
he had given away all my CDs, his people that took like my polo jackie.
I ended up fighting his homeboy.
Because I didn't find him.
He went back to L.A.
And I never heard from him again after I left school.
and I always had a grudge.
I always felt really fucked up.
He took advantage of me because he thought he could.
You know what I'm saying?
And then last year,
his house burned down in California
during the fires.
And he did a go fund.
His name was,
yeah, that does.
Yeah, name no matter.
Kind of does, though.
Oh, my Lord.
Yeah, Donnie.
And he had to go from me,
and I was going to donate one dollar
and say, you know,
you can keep the rest,
you know, for them CDs.
Oh, Andy ran up my long-distance bill to L.A.
calling people from L.A., you know, back then,
the long-de-old distance was a thing.
So, and my wife stopped me.
Because she was like, you can't leave a dollar
and, like, leave a smart-ass message.
But to me, like, that would have been, like, revenge.
I wasn't bigger.
I was going to say, I was not big enough.
And so I was sitting, I'm saying that to say,
like, I'm a little mad at Tracy,
I'm like, when I had the opportunity
to be a bigger person, I wasn't either.
There is something satisfying about revenge
when it served cold.
So I do get it.
I do get it.
But we got to be better than that.
It made me question
I'm not
It made me question
The experience
You have with me
Oh my little
Yeah Donnie Kinsey
You ain't got no fucking house
I saw something
floating around
Yo
Yeah he's
See that's
That's different
Come on
But Mark is an evil
Evil spirit
Anyway
I had those 200 CDs
You know what
I'm 21 years old
Mark come on man
There's something about
A man
Stop
Getting revenge
Yes
To me
There's something
With that
Like it's something
I'm going around right now saying how you would snow then if you were man.
I think certain shit is just not manly.
Revenge being one of them?
Not so much the act, but the self-realization and the processor, the thought train that your brain has to go through to land on what gets.
you to the act. The act you totally
understand. It's an emotion
and that's what happens if you
internalize that the wrong way.
But yeah, as a man, when you
process that, I feel
like you should be able to get to somewhere that doesn't
land on revenge. I agree.
And I'm, and I hold
grudges. And I hold grudges.
But I won't, but I won't
act on it. Yeah, that's their holding the grudges
very different from. I won't act
on it. I won't do nothing. I want revenge.
I'm not doing it. I don't think
That's the same thing.
Like, when we talk about...
Watching somebody fail is not revenge.
Yeah.
Rejoicing.
Rejoicing would be burning down his house.
Rejoicing.
Rejoicing is a form of revenge, though, you don't think so?
I, like...
Yes.
I hear that.
I hear that.
But not helping somebody, I'm saying.
Like, when I would have been doing this revenge, if I had put on...
Go fund me, that would have been revenge.
You just ignored it completely?
I just decided to ignore it.
I don't see nothing wrong with that.
Yeah.
I don't see anything.
It's tough, though.
It's...
We should be better.
You hold them people.
the shit. You said you were 21.
Actually, I was 19 now I think about it.
So that man, where he was
20 years ago and some of the antics that
niggas did when they was in high school or college,
when you meet them today, they're totally
different individuals. Yeah.
And I think hardships, I think adversities
and all of that stuff will make you become
a different person. So you
harboring that shit from 20
years ago getting them back as different.
He had 27 years to say, yo, my bad.
Here's $200. And that's the, that's
If he'd apologize to me, I would have let it go immediately.
Ice, you persuaded me.
Exactly.
I started one position.
I'm changing my position because you've persuaded me.
We should be better, but I'm not there yet.
God's still working on me.
Okay, that's, okay.
How old are you?
47.
Come on, Mom.
That part of the work should be done.
Yeah.
But the thing that I thought about what Tracy was, because he was in that awful
accident and his life was spared and he got all that money from that,
that he'd have a perspective on life that would be a little bit more.
more enlightened than me.
Like, he'd be like, look, I've been saved, I've been blessed.
Let me, let me bless somebody else.
Let me be forgiven.
Well, hold on, you had a good career, niggins.
When you came from when you came from to CNN,
and you had a promising career as well.
Imagine if I still had them CDs in that polo jacket.
A person could say that saved about you.
You had a promising career.
Yeah.
You live well.
You want a number one podcast.
You're a great contributor.
Like, you had, like, you lost somebody.
I should have perspective and I should have,
I still have the same position.
You're a doctor for crying out loud.
We should be better.
I'm just saying, I recognize.
I recognize that in practice.
You more so than us, though.
But why is it always on the person who's doing well to be better?
Why is it not on the person who did shitty things to not at some point say,
damn, I was really shitty this person.
Let me apologize.
I think both are true.
I think.
I'm sorry.
Too much is giving, much is required.
We've been blessed with so much so we should give more.
Yes.
And you should humble yourself and say, sorry, whether you're homeless or not.
Both things are true.
Yeah.
Here's the thing for me in closing.
Mark
When he speaks
He says
If I get a lot of money
I'm gonna donate to this
I care about Palestine
I care about the whole world
He says that
I'm gonna go above and beyond
For everyone else
So to hear him on the other side of that
To say that
You know this man's house burned down
And it's good for him
I was gonna donate a dollar
To make fun to him
About some fucking CDs
We don't use CDs anymore
And he has a thousand polo jackets
This nigga out
Big Phyllis
We don't know
Did Stee Gives and Dazzy
Did Steele my lost boys' tracks
All I'm saying is
like I can donate to a lot of people
and feel good about it.
I should have helped him.
Or I at least wish I didn't have that urge
to spike the football
with that $1 donation.
Again, I didn't do it
because I was stopped.
That's why you have a better half.
But it would have been really funny though.
No way.
To who?
And honestly, it could have touched Homeboy's heart
if you would have donated
$2, $3,000 to him.
Like, damn, I treated that nigga like shit
when we was in college.
He just donated $1,000 to my son.
my cause like that's fair you know what this is reminding me of i saw a clip recently it was one of
those one of those prankster dudes in the supermarket where he wants to give somebody 10,000
but he's asking them so he went up to the first person oh he said yo my my credit cards
i don't have no money on me i'm just trying to purchase this box of whatever it was can you please
help me like I don't have it I need it I'll pay you later and the guy's like it was
all the white gentleman it's like I don't I don't have it I'm I'm down to my last as well I wish
I could I'm broke and the guy keeps asking but please but please and he's like I'm broke
if I could if I would but I'm broke he goes to the very next couple they immediately
purchased the box for him he says it's a prank show it's a prank show I'm giving you
you 10 grand. I'm giving you 10 grand.
And the camera zooms in
on the white gentleman who just
said he didn't have it. And that's the big
ha ha, and the big laugh. And then I hit the
comments and everybody's crying emojis, laughing
emojis, laughing emojis. And I say, yeah, this is really funny
if we assume that that guy had it.
Right. And was being a dick.
Right. But if we just
taking people at their word, he probably needed
a word. Why the fuck would you do something like
that? Why the fuck?
would you do something like that?
See, if that guy really didn't have it
and really would have
and you just giving away money.
Right.
See, I like the ones where they ask for assistance.
You know what I'm saying?
I like the ones where they might be like.
That shit is whack, yo.
I agree.
But they'd be like, yo, can you help me with such and such?
And people just be blowing off being assholes.
And then, because there's another one,
it was a woman from New York.
It went viral crazy where the dude was given.
He asked for some assistance.
The lady went to help him and he gave a mad bread.
And then she just bust out tears and was like,
yo, can I give him some of my money?
She started giving out money that the homeboy had gave her to other people.
Like that shit just, it was real heartwarming.
Mark, did you have a question before I moved on?
Yeah, because you're taking the high road.
You've worked with people.
Some have ended better than others.
Whoever the worst departure you've ever had with,
if they were homeless, would you give them money?
Yeah.
Without a hesitation?
Yeah.
No doubt about it.
Yeah, bro.
Instantly.
Instantly.
This is my thing.
Without a second thought about what occurred in our history yesterday.
If I see somebody that, oh my, yeah, I don't, I don't even understand the other side of that.
That's me.
That's me.
That's me.
You've been a person to me.
I want to read, I want to read something to y'all, y'all that I saw.
I think it'll be interesting from a wealth management, wealth management firm.
Just about mindset and lifestyle as it equates to money consumption.
Okay.
And the different brackets, right?
I thought this was really, really, really interesting.
Feel free to stop me at any point if a sentence or word speaks to you or you have something to say about it.
Okay.
Because I just think all of it is interesting.
what your income level actually means.
All right.
Low income.
Under $1,500 a month.
Every expense feels urgent.
Planning feels impossible.
Stability is fragile.
Money here is about getting through the month.
Anything interesting there?
Been there.
Yeah.
That's what stands out.
That planning thing?
The guy had to call out of work.
You can't plan.
You can't put your game.
Yeah, I had to call out of work.
You got to go to the grocery store
and buy according to how much
you can spend that.
Exactly.
Yeah, man.
Stably paid, 3,000
to 4,500 per month.
Needs are covered.
Progress feels slow.
Saving feels difficult.
You're surviving,
not building.
Okay.
Let me see, three grand of 4, $4,500.
Yeah, you ain't building it in.
And they ain't living in Northern Jersey New York.
Depending on where you live.
Let me stop you real quick.
When you start to talk regionally, that $3,500, I mean, $3,000 to $4,500 in certain areas in the country.
You can live off that.
You can be fine.
You look like a king.
But in certain areas of, not king, but certain areas of the country, that's the $1,500 bracket.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But we don't have to dwell on.
Yeah.
Middle class, $4,500 to $6,000 per month.
Routine expenses are manageable.
You know what I mean?
You're paying your bills, nigga.
Lifestyle inflation creeps in.
That's a thing.
That's where all of us lose our girl.
I'm going to start nigger explaining this to y'all
in case you're not really understanding what some of this stuff.
That's where all us fight with our girl.
It's right.
Nicks.
Lifestyle inflation creeps in.
Nippers don't bought us some shoes.
That was $1,200.
Raises don't feel life-changing.
Money stress shifts, but doesn't disappear.
Yeah, $6,000 a month.
Yeah, $4,400.
I get it.
I get it.
Comfortable, $6,000 to $9,000 a month.
More flexibility, more decisions, more responsibility.
Money becomes about balance, not survival.
Okay.
Okay.
I follow.
Yeah, I follow.
Any thoughts?
That word comfortable is so relative.
Yeah, it's that.
Any words that are jumping out to y'all so far?
No.
No.
Not yet.
Six grand and nine grand.
More flexibility, more decision more.
Yeah.
Money becomes about balance.
All right.
I get it.
Upper middle class, $9,000 to $12,000.
Optionality increases.
That's where we lose our girl.
Yeah.
You start, you start, that's when she lose us.
Right.
Yeah.
Who do you lose her?
She lost us.
Right.
Time becomes valuable.
Financial mistakes feel expensive.
Yeah.
That's good.
Yeah, right?
Yeah.
That long.
Yep.
Financial mistakes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Income improves.
Complexity increases.
That's the other part that's tough to explain to people.
I can't understand it.
That complexity has increased.
now.
Things are not like they were.
I'm looking,
we're looking through a different lens.
That's what I'm getting here.
You start losing friends.
Not necessarily.
Discussions start to be had with your friends
that they don't understand.
I had an argument with my mother.
This is where the argument.
My mother not too long ago is.
Like,
they just don't understand
what your level of expenses
look like.
Yeah.
You get what I'm saying?
Like people just be like,
yo, you got it?
Yeah, fair.
And it's like...
I'm not losing friends over that
or family, but carry it.
No, I won't lose them.
But conversations start to be had.
No, I won't lose them.
But conversations start to be a relationship.
You might not lose them.
Part of us, because if you're at the bottom of that scale,
the top might as well be $300,000.
Like, it's so far from $50 billion.
Right.
They can't appreciate the differences.
Like, if you have $1,000,000, $1,000,000,
even seems like a million of people.
Yeah.
Wealthy.
12 grand and 25 grand per month
Lifestyle is no longer the constraint
Oh baby
That's wealthy?
Who made that?
Tracey Morgan's
Ottawa
My Indiana
Listen buddy
I'm reading it too much
You make 25 grand a month
You're wealthy
Yeah
There are additional expenses
I'll say rich
Okay
I mean 25 grand a month is like 280,000
Oh shit ain't nope
My Matt
That's a lot of money man
That's a lot of fucking money
Would you call somebody makes
300,000 wealthy though?
No.
That just feels like a...
You're not even rich.
Depending on where you live.
We always...
Depending on where you live.
You're kind of rich.
Anyway.
Well, in the dictionary,
rich and wealthy
kind of are synonymous.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
But I think a lot of us
were raised to believe
that wealth is greater than...
Yeah, like it's intergenerational.
Yeah, yeah.
That's how I think about wealth
it's supposed to rich.
The Chris Rock joke.
And then there's a nigga rich.
Oh, true.
Right.
Now that we all are.
just look at our feet
Yeah because rich you can have
Rich you can
Rich you can
Rich
When I hear rich
I think money
Mm-hmm
When I hear wealth I don't
Right
And that's the difference
Yeah
When I
Wealth are
You have other things
That are of wealth
Right
That can affect your lineage
generational
Yeah
Past rich
See that's how I look at
Rich is
Rich is still
income focused
Yeah
I look at it
where as wealthy is asset focused
and lifestyle independent.
Where did you read that from? Oxford.
Yeah.
Where's that at?
No, I just Google search.
Wealthy, 12 grand to 25 grand.
I don't want this to drag.
Lifestyle is no longer the constraint.
Focus shifts to structure
and efficiency taxes and decisions matter more.
Money becomes strategic.
Yes.
Should.
Yeah.
It should, yeah.
Y'all don't give a fuck about this shit.
I'm fascinated by shit.
Rich, 25 grand to 80 grand.
A buck.
See, and this should be inspiring to some people out there.
What I spent a lot of time on was the gaps, right?
They went from 12 to 25 grand.
25 grand went to 80 grand.
Yeah, that's a big guy.
Income is no longer to focus.
Preservation replaces accumulation.
Control matters more than growth.
This is where perspective changes.
Hmm.
That makes sense.
Yeah, that make a lot of sense.
I've been living like this.
I don't want to lose it.
Yep.
Yeah, yeah.
I got to think about how to.
Can't go back?
Yeah.
Then the next jump is wild after this.
Millionaire, one million to two million per year.
Capital works harder than labor.
Decisions matter more than effort.
Risk becomes asymmetric.
I love that one.
Money is an operating system.
Should be.
At this point, they're not even calling it money anymore.
Yeah.
Capital.
Yeah.
I think that's highly dependent.
on how you make your money.
Good point.
Like, I'm all labor, damn near.
That's good point.
Every dollar I make, I don't have money that just comes in.
Every dollar I make is still labor-focused.
You know what I'm saying?
I think for a lot of athletes, for a lot of artists,
it's still labor-focused.
You know what I mean?
I think for people who work in other industries
or who have investments.
I mean, I think that's generally true,
but I think particularly for people who, like us,
who either come from poverty or lower middle-class backgrounds
or people who ascend through the arts or sports,
I think that's different, at least at the beginning stage.
I think you still eat what you kill.
Unfortunately, and that's like, I'm not even talking about myself,
but when I talk to people, that diversification is so important
because you never know when you're going to blow your knee out.
You never know when this is going to happen.
You never know when that's going to happen.
So when I talk to people, I've even told you, like, yo, dog,
you got to start putting money in other places
so that if you do happen to lose your job,
like when you lost your job, you was fucked up.
You know what I'm saying?
So when you do lose your job,
bro, you've made enough money that you could put some shit in play that when nobody's controlling
and somebody controls how you eat, they control the ability to starve you. And so we got to start
thinking about some of that shit when we start getting a level of income to put it in other places
that make more money for us. You got to make that money work. And that's what they're saying in that.
I think all of that shit is poignant. I think it's brilliant. I think the numbers are off.
Again, a lot of shit is regional. A lot of shit is regional. So here, if you make 300,000,
here, you still busting your ass.
You still are in the rap race
and you still mentally are running around
this bitch with your head cut off.
And don't have a kid.
Yeah.
One kid fucks this whole thing up.
Especially on the first half of that scale.
Can you imagine making 50?
Because a lot of people who make the 1500 a month
for the 3,000 month have one and two kids.
If you make $6,000, $7,000,
$8,000 a month and you got children,
it's hard to survive in New Jersey.
Yeah, especially in New Jersey.
The next slide jumps from $2 million.
30 million.
I wouldn't.
So just, how does it feel?
Yearly.
Tell us,
tell us, Joe.
Income and net worth
the couple.
Structure dominates outcomes.
Optionality replaces urgency.
Wealth is about positioning.
Bro.
That optionality, urgency thing?
No, the decouple and the
that's fire.
The decoupling of the income and the world.
That's fire.
That shit is big.
That shit is big.
Did you, did you feel seen?
I didn't do.
that to you when I when when when yours came up hours came up yeah but they didn't play with me like
that you did so I'm talking to you no the dope part for you I would I would assume and this is not
mine no I'm saying the dope part for you it's I would assume it's I would assume it can identify what
mostly all of those levels which is fire true you get I'm saying like you're all level you can
identify no there are slides after that oh I'm in all the ones precede got you got you got you got that's
the next one is ultra-rereact you guys you got that's far the next one is ultra-re
30 million to 1 billion per year.
Wealth preservation is greater than growth.
Systems manage complexity.
Time and influence matter more than returns.
Capital becomes infrastructure.
And the last one is one bill to 2 billion plus per year.
And per year is, yeah.
Just got a bitch of a dick.
I don't even want to get sick on.
Right.
Just got a bitch on the table.
Dick on the table.
Like, yo.
But that could be helpful to some people out there, especially after that homeless conversation.
It actually gave me perspective on home.
Because the thing about how desperate I would feel at the 1500, you know, and I think that
that brother out there would probably kill to have $1,500 a month coming in right now.
Yeah.
That gives a lot of perspective.
Yeah, you piece of dollars.
I didn't do it?
Like, where y'all wanted, Donnie got insurance.
Like, well, y'all wanted the dudes that before you gave money to the homeless, you needed
to know what they were doing with it first?
No.
I always hated that shit.
Never.
I hated that shit.
I just got to check the room.
No.
This is a
Oh, brother
Oh God
Fam, you can say whatever you want
I'll buy you something to eat
When I say I've bought
Niggas like the convenience store
Buy it out
$60 worth of shit
Where was I?
Sleeping on the bread
But
I was in the street before
So I'm not
I'm not contributing to your drug habit
But you literally were selling the drugs
Which is why I have an opposite
side of perspective.
Like, I'm not giving you money
to go get high with.
I'm just not.
I'm not telling you what to do with your money,
but here's why I see it different.
Go ahead.
As somebody who's been in the drug game,
as somebody who's been in the drug game,
I'm assuming crack just because, you know.
That's racist.
No, no.
As hell, you know.
Because of the error we came up in.
We came up in the crack error, right?
So if you didn't sell crack,
you knew people who sold crack, right?
Or heroin.
Or heroin.
Either one.
Crack heroin.
You sold.
Opioids.
Right.
It's a stereotyping.
He sold Nicks, man.
We.
Based on what he said before on the show,
it seems like he was selling stronger stuff.
He wasn't a big time deal.
Why are you playing that all the way?
He wasn't.
That's where the confusion is happening.
You know, he didn't have work, a plug, weight, like, small, small, microdosing, right?
Here's what my point is.
If you were in the game, even if you didn't sell crack or heroin, but you knew people who did, right?
You know people who buy crack.
People who buy cracking heroin going to get cracking heroin.
That would have been my heart.
So for me, the money that I would have been bought.
The money that I give that person who might buy drugs with it, yeah, I'd rather they buy a sandwich with it.
But I might be stopping them from knocking somebody in the head to get that cracker heroin because they're going to get it either way.
I'm saving your TV, your car, my house, you know what I'm saying?
To me, that's how I look at.
That's why I don't care.
It's not that I want them to do the drugs.
I just feel like they're going to get the drugs anyway.
Get you a little crack sandwich, man.
Yeah.
Now they ain't got a suck dick to get it.
You get what I'm saying?
Although that could be, you know.
Annie did that.
Not that.
Oh, wait.
Oh, I'm talking about it.
I'm talking about the receiving end of the crackhead giving it.
Well, I know.
That's why you said that on the show.
What?
The first of the year.
This is what I'm, all right, we're going to use your crack analogy.
You know people that use crack got to get high, like, a lot.
Yeah, like people who eat.
So even if I give you, if I give you $5 or if I give you $2, you still about to be back sucking dick.
Or you still about to be back robbing.
That's one dick less.
Let me.
Give her a break.
Give a day off.
God damn.
No, hell.
Like, give a day.
Give them 20 minutes.
I mean, relax your jaw for an hour.
This nigga is crazy.
Some niggas try to clean up their conscience by doing that, right?
Like, nigga, I'm not going to contribute to your drug habit, but I buy you some food.
So you're just trying to clean up your conscience and what you did before.
I'm trying to preserve my money.
He still did five minutes like you want to buy sandwich?
That's not true.
Nigger, that's my bread.
I'm not giving you money to give to another drug deal.
I'm going to buy you some food.
What if they buy drugs from you?
What if they buy drugs from you?
You?
Yeah.
They,
I,
you give them money.
And they buy a little sandwich
and then they come back around.
And then they come back around.
I don't sell drugs.
One,
back what you did.
Number two,
I might as well
to just took a short
on whatever I was selling.
Sure.
Yeah.
Nicks,
I spent $80 in the,
I buy you some.
You give a little business card
with the donation?
Okay, what else needs are?
What else needs are attention here?
It's up here.
Ficious.
Listen, some people are kind,
some people are not.
Yeah, it's a fact.
I know who to avoid if I ever get homeless.
Word, man.
Can't come ask.
Mark, remember me?
Yeah, John.
$1.
Yo.
I'm Joe Button.
Remember, I'm, I ain't do it.
That's crazy.
He's a good to Joe.
God damn.
Would you like to discuss
Jim Jones and the day and night debacle?
Yeah, we need to start Jim Jones.
Jim Jones, Ken Cuddy and the day and
night debacle. This should go fast.
We got to add to get to. But in the
event it doesn't, I'll do like that
old when Rockefeller went to
Hot 97, no commercial.
Why did I think that was the flyest thing ever when it
happened? Like, just not understanding
the business of radio and commercials at all, right?
When he was like, I'm paying for the
there ain't no commercials. I was like, damn
whole paying for it.
That's fire. That's kind of fire. It's a lot. In the
moment, yeah. Oh, gay them niggas.
$2,500.
When I was young, I didn't know the importance the impact of $25,500.
That's all it was.
Who gave them niggins 900 and said, keep rapping, young crits?
Free, it's your turn free?
And then Hove might have gave him the promise and then walked out on the niggins.
Yeah.
You know he did.
Like, you know, he did me at the strip club.
Oh, shit.
What happened?
Oh, my God.
Come on, okay, cross that out.
Oh, okay, crush that out, too.
Hell yeah.
Fucking .
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that's just, that's OG tax.
That's OG tax.
Yeah.
That's OG tax.
Back in.
Shit.
Okay.
Antoine.
Wait, you, you full of surprises.
What are you talking about?
Are we recording?
We are.
Me and you have been through this a million times before.
What?
If we at the strip club, come on, you know how it is at the strip club.
And in 2026, I'm off that strip club shit.
Assets, not liabilities.
That's not.
I think you.
No, no.
Assets.
My future wife is thick, man.
Ain't nothing there for me.
Oh, all right.
Ain't nothing there for me.
That's all.
But when we used to be up into, you know what I mean?
Running around.
What's this dry and you're over?
I'm hitting you on a Friday.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Sometimes your man go to the ATM, shit ain't shaking out right.
Sometimes your man go try to bop the car.
Ain't working out right.
Now BigFix's got to come back.
Look, try to get the cars off.
Biggs just try to get this shit off.
Yeah.
So then you go to your men, yo.
I, I hold it down.
I'll give it to you.
That happens.
Man, you've done it a bunch.
That ain't your man.
Yeah, no
We hospitality
Different than I guess
We hospitality
Oh, you took them out
And you rich
So it's a difference
We're off the time
I ain't rich
Depends how much one up in the air
That don't matter
When you're rich
You're rich in spirit
What are not
We're doing short stacks
Oh they're gonna'
Like short stacks
Oh you got to eat that
Hey my pancakes is different
Some of dollars
Out this motherfucking
It's worse
Some niggas out of
Eating toast
Digger fuck as you talk about
You all would eat the shorts
I would for him.
I would.
For you, man.
Jim Jones,
Kid Cuddy, can this be fast?
It shouldn't be happening.
It shouldn't be happening.
Let's tell the audience what happens.
Jim Jones went on the podcast
and said what he's been saying,
which is I made Kid Cuddy.
Nobody gave a fuck about him.
Nobody would know him.
If it wasn't for me hopping on day and night
and getting it high, which led to him
getting a deal and yada, yada, yada.
And Kit Cuddy woke up one morning,
got on the internet.
I love when y'all get on the internet and do this shit.
Got on the internet replied to Jim Jones
and was like, would all do respect,
Jim is the OG yada, yeah.
But you didn't make me, you're not responsible for me.
My record was bubbling already.
I was already in talks with Kanye.
I was about to get my deal.
A bunch of things happened and maybe you didn't know,
but I was somebody already,
which has caused the internet
and those with Wi-Fi to argue back and forth
and people from different errors in hip-hop
and different regions of hip-hop.
Yeah.
Well, I can say as ERIS and regions.
It's both because you have younger people that are like, who gives a fuck about all of that?
We don't, I just heard this gym shit yesterday for the first time.
I know, Kit Cuddy, you have younger people and then you have the New Yorkers.
Yeah.
As someone who was living in New York at the time and.
Yep.
I was a fan of both parties involved.
I heard day and night before Jim Jones got on it.
I don't even know if I've heard the Jim Jones freestyle.
info, honestly, to this.
That's what I was saying.
I was outside.
I was in New York.
In New York, no, in New York, we heard outside of the Jim Joe.
I was in New York.
I was a grown-up.
In New York.
I heard the Jim Joe shit a lot on radio day and night.
But I heard the original, but like this, I knew about the original before.
I knew about the reason.
Same.
Got it.
I do think New Yorkers feel stronger about this point than outside.
Because when I see a lot of, and I think it is generational too, but I think a lot
of the people I'm hearing defending, or, I mean, if it's something to defend, the
Cutty perspective, they're way outside of New York.
and they're like, Jim is crazy.
I don't think Jim is crazy.
He's not crazy.
I just think he's overestimating the impact.
If Jim would have just said New York streets, his statement is fact.
And radio's the street me and pull back then.
That's the difference.
That's the difference.
That's where the mess up is.
That's where the miscommunication happens.
Because you say I made Kid Cutty, you did not make Kid Cutty.
No.
But if you say I made him where the New York streets were listening to him, that's fair.
That's fair.
And that's a fact.
Okay.
Is it really?
Yes.
They wasn't fucking like...
I'm on a total other side of this.
Let me ask you a question.
I'm on the total other side of this one.
And I remember that song.
That's when we used to be in Jersey Girls every day.
I love that record.
Me too.
I love both.
But if Jim don't jump on that song,
there's no guarantee that song still don't filter
throughout the streets in New York.
It was already filtering in the streets of New York.
So what I'm saying is when I say the streets,
I'm talking about the...
I don't think so.
Fans of Jim Jones.
I was thinking of filtering.
I remember the first of the street before.
I knew this would turn and draw.
The radio was extremely important back then.
I remember turning on the radio
when hearing Jim Jones version
a day and night played consistently.
Day and night.
That's it.
In the day, in the morning,
and in the night time,
overnight, they played it was quick rotation.
I heard Jim Jones version at least 10 million times
before I knew somebody else was on this record.
And then I might have heard the crookers mix
before I heard Kid Cuddy on.
This is the ADM shit.
Yeah.
That was a big remix.
That was.
was. But the other regions, you know, in some of these conversations, I smell the jealousy
on some of you other regions. Let me just say that. Y'all be trying to have one conversation
and the jealousy start reeking off you or the chip you got on your shoulder for New York
inventing hip-hop or being arrogant and smug when it comes to hip-hop. And this is one of those
talks. That's fair. This is one of those talks. I'm on the other side of that too.
Go ahead.
No, I think
Cuddy benefited greatly
from Jim jumping on the song.
Greatly might be a stretch,
but he benefited for sure.
That song's in New York.
Fish grease.
What I'm saying, though, is,
is no game.
Not New York.
Why you keep saying that?
Because that, bro, outside of New York.
You always on the Appian New York side.
No, we're not going to do that today.
We're not going to do that today.
Because I love New York too.
But I love hip hop.
Stop Mark.
I love hip hop because I'm trying to have a real discussion.
Yeah, go.
I love hip hop.
But it's not found to say that a lot of your opinions are lines like that.
I'm not New York biased.
And then because I'm not New York biased, you take it to say anti-New York.
There's a difference.
I am not New York biased.
A lot of times y'all be New York biased.
If New York is in it, then it's automatically New York is up here.
When hip-hop started, though, freeze.
That's fine, but we're not talking about the start of hip-hop.
Hip-hop has moved on for years.
We just celebrated a 50, so we're not talking about the start of hip-hop anymore.
We just don't know why we're biased
And why we're holding it.
I understand that.
Also because it's home.
I think people should be biased to where they're from and their home.
I do.
Even with that particular song,
with that particular song,
you can't necessarily say it helped it in New York,
but it didn't help in the Wales
because you don't travel enough to see
if it was buzzing somewhere else with the gym verse.
You don't know if it helped it in Atlanta.
You don't know if it helped it in this region
or this region or this region
because you wasn't traveling.
and outside in these spots to see if when the gym shit,
I mean, when the song came on,
they was rocking the gym version.
We only know because we are cemented in New York City,
so we know what it did here.
Not saying that, it did or didn't.
I'm just giving a...
No, no, no, no, no, no.
In addition, I'm saying it did.
It helped, bro.
It helped.
I'm saying that when that record was on Hot 97,
playing the way it was playing.
Literally day and night.
I don't know if Jim had it.
a relationship up here, but all day long that record came on.
Those are spins.
True, which is helping.
That led to that record being in heavy rotation in New York.
In the biggest market.
So you can't just say New York when every PD in the nation is looking to see how many spins a certain record is getting in New York.
Obviously, you heard a song that must have been doing something somewhere.
I'm not saying it wasn't nice.
So what I'm trying to say, and to your point about travel, this is the blog error when this record comes out.
Now we have the internet.
This is not just local radio.
This is not just regional radio anymore.
This is one of the premier blog record, like, songs.
So, I mean, blog error, excuse me, blog era songs.
Now you're getting music from all over.
You can see what's, yo, this is what we fucking went out here.
The internet made the world fit in the palm of your hand.
It ain't no more, you only know what's happening in New York.
You only know what's happening down south.
You only know what's happening on the West Coast.
There's a crew of y'all that overstate the blog error, too.
There's a crew of y'all that downplayed the blog error.
There's a crew of y'all.
When this moment we're talking about, blogs was still very much niche.
They wasn't the overcompensating, the overarching.
What years of the blog ever do you?
What years are the blog error?
Yes.
What's the peak?
That song was out when we first started going to Jersey Girls.
I remember that song.
kind of MySpace era.
Yeah, we're talking about 08.
I'm calling all that shit.
That's all in this.
No,
08 is not.
The internet, bro.
I'm talking about the internet.
When I say blog error,
I mean the internet.
But that's actually,
this change shit is what I'm telling you.
It still don't give you the ability
to test how the temperature
of a song in other regions.
If you're talking to people
in other regions and they let you know
what's popping out there,
guess what you can hear
what's going on in other regions.
This record, by the way,
I know he's from Cleveland,
but this record was produced
in Brooklyn.
He was living in New York in the time.
And I started drinking himself now.
Shot to get a gun.
Shot to guys of genius.
That song was popping in New York.
But you're saying that on a blog,
you can hear from other niggas was popping in other places,
which means this song is popping in other places.
That's what I'm saying, ish.
That is popping in other places.
It's not popping.
What I say is Jim made that song pop in New York.
Streets.
I'm talking about Jim Jones has a fan base of niggas who don't really give a fuck.
This is back when it was the internet versus the streets.
Niggas didn't really give a fuck what was happening on the internet.
that niggas didn't care about none of that shit.
Jim made it acceptable for the niggas who did not
fuck with the internet to fuck with this song.
That's fair.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Yeah, but you said something different before.
I got a problem with, I got a problem with
everything ICE is saying.
He said something different before.
In this time capsule that
we're talking about, Jim is the hottest
thing moving. Yes. In 2008,
it's not some street rapper
hopped on some shit, and now the street
niggas, you keep trying to minimize
this is balling, pop champagne,
Like, yo, Jim is on fire.
And I'm not trying to take away from nothing Cuddy did.
And I still disagree with Jim.
I don't think he made Cuddy.
Again, Plain Pat was running around.
Niggas was running around working Cuddy and over here.
So I disagree with that.
But anybody that is going to come add two, three, four, five thousand, 50,000, 100,000 spins to your BDS helps.
That's not regional help.
That's not regional help.
My issue.
That's not New York City help.
Yeah, you're talking about radio industry business and you're correct in that.
Yeah.
That's all I'm talking about.
And all I'm talking about is you didn't make this dude.
You didn't make this song.
No, I agree.
That was my whole point.
I agree with you.
He did not.
He did not.
I think we're all in agreement on that.
Nice and easy.
Yeah, nice and easy.
Shut up, Mark.
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that coat tail.
Oh my God.
I gotta ride that coat tail.
So why can't be
the Ishing Joe did?
Huh?
Why can't be the
issue and Joe picks?
Well,
you get more
for the beat
when Dre put his name.
You get up
you can charge it.
You remember that game?
I'm sorry.
Sorry, Dane Jehands.
That was Timble.
Yeah, that was Timble.
But every producer
kept one.
Yeah.
What?
Not everyone,
but a lot of them.
You got somebody in a room somewhere.
I don't.
Look, I don't.
Would you do it?
No.
I would credit the person.
I believe parks, though.
That's the funny shit.
I believe parks.
I believe parks.
How big would the font be?
The same is mine.
I believe him.
Yeah, I believe him.
Yeah, I believe him.
I do.
I believe him, too, I think.
Just stop it, man
I think I believe
But you wouldn't do that
You wouldn't be on the opposite of that though
You wouldn't
Unless
And if you do
We have to look at the other things
No, I'm down with credit
Credit and people
What did they do?
That's important
What?
I ain't just credited
niggas that's just in the studio
Who? That was us
You had to contribute
to the making of the record
Say you're writing a hook and somebody give you just a word to the hook, just a word.
Oh.
Deucees.
Sorry, but, well, who gave me the word?
Was it Usher?
No, Joe.
Give him in.
It was ice.
It was ice.
Like I did on some other records.
If it was iced, he's iced.
The word became.
The word became a part.
The word became a part.
The fact.
Cratted and Nages.
Oh, shit.
That shit just became cool.
So.
Giving niggins.
credit.
That's your man.
Hey, remember, I was looking for my deal in the 90s.
Yeah, it was.
And to be fair, is I just trying to rap?
No.
That's what I'm saying.
So why am I giving ice to credit for his little word?
And his word was probably some bullshit too.
No, no.
Echelon or something.
What was your word using it?
You can't wrap echelons.
In a hook?
The good rapper's good.
In a hook?
No, you're no echelon.
Oh, my God.
All right.
The Joe.
The Joe went.
ish picks of the week.
Eschelada, the hook is so trash.
That's super trash.
Actually.
That's so trash.
Nah,
no, you can't make it hot.
No, no, no, I think, I think the right person.
That's part of being a rapper is learning what words just sound pleasing to the ear,
like to hear and listen to.
And it's some words that just don't.
I came in or.
Especially in a hook.
Yeah.
And the chorus is not the time.
Dictionary time.
Eschelon.
The sororist time.
Reparations is another word.
I don't want to hear in the chorus.
I can make a list.
Nobody put rest.
If you give me a bed and pad,
Kendrick didn't put reparations in the all right chorus.
He did?
No, he didn't.
I'm saying,
it's certain shit you just not put in the hook.
Eschalon is in the hook of a song that is a smash.
What's on?
Upper echelon.
I was saying that.
Yeah, that's what I'm like,
I'm like, ain't that in that hook?
And that record goes.
Up echelon.
What's all that?
It's on that.
It's Travis Scott.
And it goes.
How would go?
I don't know you don't know them, but it goes.
They'll let you know.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
You can do it.
Don't do it.
You can do it.
See, this is the difference between me and freeze.
He'll be a Travis Scott nigger and a clip.
That ain't me.
That ain't me.
You just a clip.
That ain't me.
You just a clip.
I'm riding with the guy.
I'm a clip.
I'm a clip.
That mean fuck the other side.
That means fuck the other side.
Got you.
I don't know no Travis Scott song, nigger.
Except sick of him old.
That's just because you are Drake.
But ain't you T-D-E.
I'm a Drake or you a Drake?
You?
They found a picture.
It's by the NASCAR.
With the OVO shirt.
With the OVO shirt.
That was an OVO shirt?
Yeah.
The OVO.
They said, we got him.
He's so mad that he in OVO.
How?
I'm not in OVO.
You are.
You're the other vaginal option.
Yeah.
You all of this is a prize picture.
The Joe and Iish picture the week.
Drake May is where you dropped the ball last week.
Here you go back at it.
Drake made for more than 225 passing yards.
Hey, that's going to be a skip for me.
They're going to tear his ass up.
And Hagar had no choice with the past.
He is that defense score.
Yeah, he is in for a rude awakening.
Sorry, buddy.
Trayvion Henderson for more than 17 rushing yards.
He even going to get the ball enough to get 17 rushing yards.
That one I will play.
He can't beat up Stevenson if they shoot the one.
That's why he only getting 17?
If Stevenson get mad on that sideline,
don't give him the ball no more.
He's done, young boy.
Go wash my car.
Oh, and you've got Stevenson on it.
Ramon J. Stevenson for more than 15 carries.
That's a go.
Stefan Diggs for more than 44 receiving yards.
That's definitely a goal.
Yeah, that's definitely a goal.
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Gatorade.
Gatorade color?
Yeah, yeah, all of that.
I'm doing all of that.
Okay.
This would be a good time to talk football, but no.
Yeah.
That's just a say.
No, no.
No, no.
No, no.
No, don't fuck.
Don't disturb this groove.
Don't disturb this groove.
Groove tonight.
Worst take will come later.
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You want to hear who we got winning the game.
All right.
Where were we?
I'm a sap.
I'm a complete sap.
A sucker.
We're a stabbing.
We're early in the broad.
Don't say that word now.
Sucker.
With a hard art.
Oh.
Okay. Why are you that?
That's the worst.
Yeah, but it's different. It's not.
Anyway, what is this at?
You guys.
I am, I am believing Kanye West.
He put out a statement in the Wall Street Journal apologizing.
And I know everybody says he's full of shit and he's just trying to sell another product.
And I know he's apologized before.
And maybe this is why I lived in a cult.
I don't know.
But I believe I'm all in.
I kind of am too.
I like it.
I like it.
I like accountability.
Same.
And given reason.
It felt different this time.
It did.
I think he went a little bit more in depth.
Are you all related to this thing?
No, I'm trying to find my words.
I think that when your back hit the wall and you started looking at the shit that you did wrong,
and it's a self-reflection thing there.
But I don't like that you.
you put it on something else.
You get what I'm saying?
Like if he was still in the billions
and still rising to the top,
he had the same stance.
And I don't know if that, I would say that.
If your family,
this is themselves from you and all that shit, maybe.
What stood out?
What made this apology different for you guys?
It's really long.
I was going to read it, but you should.
It's long.
It's long.
Yeah, it's pretty long.
I think, one, it was a unqualified apology.
To me,
he said what he did wrong
he acknowledged how he hurt people
and he talked about what he would do
to make it better for me
that's really important
he gave context for the
for a long time he's ducked the mental illness
stuff right
or other people have ducked it for him
when we point out even on this show
you know he's dealing mental illness how do you know he got to
how do you know he got that he's dealing mental illness
what you mean by he ducked
I'm just curious there were moments where he
pretended that that wasn't the case and then there were moments where
He acknowledged certain pieces of it, but attributed it to something else.
More recently, he's been more honest and forthcoming about his mental illness.
Here, I think he went into the greatest depth, not just of acknowledging mental illness, talking about...
The car accident.
The car accident, the roots of it.
Talking about his manic behavior, naming it, and talking about what the consequences and the symptoms are of those mental illness issues.
For me, that was important because he was tying it together without making an excuse.
He wasn't saying, like, it's not my fault.
he was saying, here's what happened,
here's how I got into it.
But here's how I doubled down on it, right?
Because there's something compelling about that stuff.
He wasn't asking everybody to forgive him.
A lot of times the apologies, like,
I apologize, I need y'all to get over it, let's move on.
He was saying, I don't expect that.
I'm asking for patience.
I'm asking for, you know, I'm growing.
I'm going to figure this out.
I'm just letting y'all know that I know I fucked up
and not just the Jewish community,
but also the black community.
That was the biggest difference for me
is that he remembered he was black.
and spoke to some of the issues that he may have caused
and the feelings he may have caused within the black community
in the past, that was like an afterthought or not even mention.
Yeah.
So that was different for me.
And the whole, you're right, the whole not really asking for change
in how he's received, like kind of understanding
this is what it is and this is a result of the damage I've done that.
That felt a little different.
The difference for me, like you said, was, again,
He always was like, yo, I don't need medication.
I don't need this, I don't need that.
He came out and said, yo, I'm bipolar.
You know what I'm saying?
And he said, during my manic states, this can happen, that can happen, this can happen.
Can I read that?
Before you finish, I think it was important, he said,
describing the state you're talking about, he said you feel like you're seeing the world more clearly than ever
when in reality you're losing your grip entirely.
The scariest thing about this disorder is how persuasive it is when it tells you you don't need help.
It makes you blind but convinced you have insight.
You feel powerful, certain, unstoppable.
I lost touch with reality.
That, to me, was Kanye the last few years in a nutshell.
Mm-hmm.
I don't want to be insensitive.
It's a Jay-Z line that said,
my mind was fine.
To the dough hit it and told me that the Mo did it.
I think this nigger's power.
I think this niggas money.
What that line mean?
Niggas and blame it on the liquor
and really be the bread.
I'm joking.
And I think, no, no, because some people, why not?
I think that this nigger's money and power had him seeing, like, all of you people are expendable,
and I don't need y'all because I'm up here.
And I think when you get knocked down, even though however you come to the realization is still a blessing,
I think that when you get knocked down sometimes and you get into your self-reflective mold,
the truth comes out and it becomes more apparent.
So we can appreciate the truth, but I just don't know if he never got his ass with,
would he have been coming back down, apologizing?
to the black people.
Free, what's up?
Break up some of this kumbaya shit they're on.
I ain't believe none of it, honestly.
Really?
It's just because I've seen this.
Granted, not to this level,
but it's just like the song and dance.
I see him do this.
Like, you make your album cover.
I hate being bipolar.
It's awesome.
Like, you're playing with certain shit.
Like, I just see Kanye offend,
apologize, sell.
Offend, apologize, sell.
So it's such a pattern that I just feel like we, all right, we were back here again.
And I will give them the fact that you said I don't expect everybody to accept the apology
because personally I'm on the side of the people that don't.
Like I just, this is you.
I've seen this too many times to accept that this is you.
It's going to take more than this to show the change.
This could be step one, but you got to continue to do the work.
That ain't going to do it for me.
And that's what he said. I'm not asking for sympathy or a free pass, though I aspire to earn your forgiveness.
Earn your forgiveness. To me, that's important. I write today simply to ask for your patience
and understanding as I find my way home. I thought it's beautiful, honestly.
Freeze, do you feel like you have a lack of compassion?
No, I just, I just... I don't just mean to call you. Just period. Like you, ICE.
No, no. I don't think so at all. I just think that... I think a lot of times people be full of shit,
bro and I think a lot of people try to play on
people being empathetic
so it's like if I can appear sincere
and if I can tug on the heartstrings a little bit
I can get you back on my side
and especially when they've seen it work
I'm glad me and you friends
you got the greatest heart in the world
when like because when I hear him talking
I mean like the homeless topic like this topic
and I'm just in a ice family come from the church
ice got dropped off
the school, I can't figure out
why he don't be on the other side
to think sometimes. I just believe that people
will show you who they are.
I think that a lot of people
will get over
if you allow them to.
And I think that
a lot of times, niggas is real smart, bro.
They know how to play the game. They know how
to tug at the heartstrings and get you
sympathetic just to sell you something.
Like, hold it real quick.
I just got another email yesterday
with Kanye's store announcing new items.
That matters to me when I see this.
Like you did an entire email blast.
Hey, look, we got all of this right here for sale
every time your name trains.
Do you feel like you have that look prevents you
from seeing people for who they truly are?
No, I think.
It looked like you put people automatically in the box.
If somebody does something,
I hear a lot of times,
you're saying that they might be full of shit
or I don't accept that apology.
Like this is not the only stance you,
the only time you took this stance.
So can that thought
prevent you from actually seeing somebody
true attention?
No, intent don't matter to you.
No, no, intent matters,
but we don't know their intent.
You never know nobody's intent.
So I give people that I treat people
as I don't know your intent.
You could be full of shit
or you can be perfectly honest.
I judge you off your track record.
So if you continually do this same thing,
I'm going to think this is you at some point.
Interesting.
I like what the letter does for maybe people that are dealing with mania or bipolar disorders
or any of the similar personality disorders because it's pretty honest and outgoing,
forthcoming where you're saying when you're in these episodes,
you don't know that you're having an episode and you think everybody else is crazy
for calling you crazy, but you're not, you're going through something.
Right.
And that's the depth.
And I have friends that have dealt with this and sometimes even champion some of the things
that Kanye says.
So I'm hoping that maybe you're seeing this will be like, oh, shit.
This might be an awakening point for some folks.
I asked, like for me reading that, I've read the apology when I got all the way to the end because it was a little long.
But when I got to the end, like I had to sit with myself for a minute.
Like it wasn't even, it was no longer really about Kanye.
It was about me and recognizing that I don't have a personal investment in the matter one way or the other.
Like, it's not, I'm not about to rack my brain with, are you lying?
Are you being honest?
Are you selling something?
You have a track record.
You did this.
You went in TMZ and you did.
Like, that list can be long.
I ain't, no, not today.
I'm praying for you, dog.
That's the extent of where I'm going with this.
Can both be true, though?
What you do with those prayers?
No, I'm just talking about,
I'm not really talking about sentiment.
I'm talking about just like time.
I refused to, like even with this topic,
I feel like we've done this at least 16 times, I feel like.
So I've given it all the energy and effort.
If you're healthy, I think that's wonderful for your children,
for your family, for Kim, for your loved ones,
the people that actually care about you, like, personally,
greater than your artistic,
contributions, yeah.
And that's where I'm at with it.
Like, if you're lying,
then you're lying.
Like, this is totally...
Yeah, yeah.
Like, this ain't enough,
but time will tell.
But, like, I ask a question.
But it ain't going to,
but who, time is going to tell who?
Whoever he's trying to convince.
Because you're not going to be in that.
It ain't going to tell me.
The time ain't going to tell me.
The time is going to tell him and his.
It's going to tell whoever he's trying to convince.
That's, and you can't say,
and again, I don't know if he's being
sincere or genuine or not.
I don't know.
But you can all say that, yo, he's putting out projects and niggas don't even remotely talk about the projects.
Him as an artist and as being one of the biggest artists we've ever seen in our lifetime.
In greatest.
In our lifetime.
Yeah.
Not in this.
Forever.
Dog, that has to be having some effect on him saying, yo, dog, how did I get here?
I remember when I would drop, the world would stop for me.
Now, how did I get here?
It's not even a whisper.
So now it might put you in the classroom.
it to ICE's point to say,
yo, let me write down some shit
to win these niggas back.
I don't know if that's the case.
I'm just looking at it objectively.
Because it's real quick.
Why Wall Street Journal?
That's a question I asked.
Of all the places to put this apology
that I'm, this well-written apology,
why are you going to Wall Street Journal?
There's people that he's trying to reach out to that he offended.
So I'm trying to get a message to certain,
again, which goes back to intent.
I can't speak for his intent.
But if you look at the whole,
it could look a way.
way. I'm trying to get these business
niggins back on my side, bro. I'm
fucked up out here. I got you. I'm trying to get
the business world back fucking with me. So let me go over
here where I know they're going to see it.
Can both things be a little bit true though? Like,
I said a bunch of really fucked up shit
embracing the swastika, so on and
so forth. That was wrong.
And I would like to get my business back right.
Like, I think that's okay.
Yeah. I'm okay with
the venue. Because I don't know if you put
in variety, if you want, I mean, there's no place you can put it
where people wouldn't have that same criticism.
You put in New York Times, did something.
He paid for an ad in a major newspaper.
I'm okay with it.
If you picked the Washington Post, there's a right way.
I mean, there's some politics attached to it,
some of these outlets, too.
So I'm okay with that choice.
I think the best and most encouraging thing for me
is that in Joe's right,
we've talked about this a bunch of times.
But the last time we talked about it,
there's been no more drama since this time.
A lot of times Kanye apologizes
than does something fucked up,
and he apologizes again.
When he apologized to those rabbis
a couple months ago. We haven't heard anything bad again. He hasn't been out on the scene a whole
lot. To me, that also is encouraging. The fact that he kind of has been behind the scenes. I think he
really might be doing that healing work. That for me is the most important thing. On just a slightly
different note, but connected, I had a doctor on my show last night, a psychiatrist, a trauma
psychiatrist, because the thing I was trying to get a hold of is how authentic should we take
his claim that the most racist and vile shit he said wasn't coming out of his heart?
but simply was attributable to this accident, you know.
And she said it's entirely possible that you could not be an anti-Semite,
that you could not be anti-Black, whatever the thing might be,
and still say these awful things because of a mental illness.
For sure.
But I think that's important to know because I think one of the lingering thoughts a lot of people have is,
all right, that might have been why you said it out loud.
But you still said it.
And I think it's important to understand people don't understand how life-altering
and mind-altering a mental illness can be.
So I just think that's important for people to know.
know. Again, I can't speak for Kanye because I don't know them to know, but I think it's important for people to know that it is very, very, very, very possible according to her.
The thing I had questions about was the car accident, whether that could happen and I didn't really think about, but like CTE and all that stuff, like it's all false.
I asked her that too. Dr. Alana Curry's her name. I said, could that have actually changed all this? She said, any accident that can shatter your jaw will also move your brain around.
Yeah. And anything that moves your brain around could absolutely change your mind. And then when you add other traumas,
other situations and maybe mental illness that you already had.
Right.
That mixed together can lead somewhere really unexpected.
So.
Yeah, yo, I ain't gonna hold you.
I'm just for me.
I'm putting celebrities in whatever box they're supposed to be in in my life.
When the slabs get here, if the slaps is there, then that's when I'll be there.
Outside of that, I hope the brother's doing well.
I pray for them, but it's not really my business.
Fair.
That's interesting.
Pray.
I don't like...
Go ahead.
That's an interesting stance
that you take, right?
Because we all go through things
and we would hope that people
would be invested
and want to understand us
because that we're in the business
of people pleasing.
We were talking about that earlier.
And when I mean people pleasing,
I'm talking about like catering to the masses.
So you would hope that if something happened,
people could look at it like,
that's not really him.
He had a moment.
So I'm invested in seeing
his healing process
so I can still support.
him. You know, that's what I
would want, you know what I'm saying? I used to...
So when you say certain things like that, like, I'm not invested
enough, it throws me off a little bit,
which I respect and understand, but
I would think that a person like you who was
giving, who was caring, would
want to see someone grow
or would want to see the process of
what's the next step for them. You understand
what I'm saying? I don't know if I, you know.
I'm not sure I'm all the way clear.
But I mean, am I sounding like I don't want
him to be well? No, you do, but you just say I'm not...
You want you to be more invested in it. If you
care that much about people, why aren't you more invested
in this healing? Is that my reading?
Yeah, that's it.
But why would I be? Yeah.
Why would I be? Why wouldn't you?
I mean, it's Kanye. I mean, you know,
like, just as a human.
For me, everything really ain't for public
consumption, one.
So once we start talking about
mental health, physical health,
and spiritual health,
normally when that's not right,
we come to learn that.
because someone's on the internet not being right.
Like, that's where the public is seeing this.
For others, that's time for your real family friends and loved ones to kick in.
It ain't for a nigger that you don't know,
a nigger that you was on a record label with.
It ain't for, that connection doesn't exist for me.
What happens when you isolate them and you don't have them loved ones around that can kick in?
you kind of run where
else can you go?
Well, I don't know.
Gotcha. I don't know.
But Kanye has many people in his life
that love him and care about him
on a deeper level than his artistic contributions
and what song he has and what,
pardon me, clothing he has coming.
Like, I'm not, I don't,
that people please point was interesting to me.
And that would have been a great segue to do our conversation.
But I think if you go up running to the public,
for anything emotional
you play in a dangerous game.
That's true.
I agree that's true.
I'm aware that people play that game.
I'm not into that.
Me neither.
Yeah, because I think it could definitely go.
Either way.
No.
The odds are it's going to go the other way.
Because the people on line inherently, in my opinion, are me.
So if you're looking for them for some sort of comfort of validation,
and they start cursing your ass out
and calling you all types of names and shit,
you could spiral out of control deeper
until whatever abysmal state you're already in.
I just think, yeah, that's a dangerous game.
Yeah. Yeah, recently fucking...
Picture of Ray Rice and his wife
was going viral.
And Ray Rice is a junior varsity football coach.
at a high school.
Him and his wife are still together.
And they both are very active
in the Baltimore community in terms of philanthropy
and donating to
abuse cases and yada, abuse causes,
and yada, yada, yada, yada, yada.
And he listens.
Does it? Yes.
Yeah, he told Michael Pellan well ass up at that gym one time.
Going to them little YMCA gyms, you're very careful.
You don't know who in there, bowling.
end up in there having a guard Ray Rice
he's another one that came to the internet
and I gave thought gave a really thoughtful
and beautiful apology
he worked through he did the work
he healed he stayed with his wife he fixed the issues
afterthought yeah
nobody cares
internet don't get a problem about that
people don't really care y'all they don't
the internet don't want you to get better they don't want to forgive
like none of that shit bro we're gonna hold you to this right here
no matter what people don't really
I think the sooner you learn that people don't care, the better.
Yeah, true.
And I'm one of those people.
Sorry.
I think I got to learn that.
My wife doesn't know all the time.
I don't care.
Like, my care is designated to those that I care about it.
I willingly and freely give it out to.
That's at my discretion.
But the difference?
That's not just, that's these stand hives running around with all of this other shit.
And later when we talk about the next, the other murder in Minneapolis,
I do want to get at hip hop for a little bit.
I do.
Look, you were saying you don't care.
It's not that the Internet don't care.
The Internet loves the demonize and villainize.
So the people that don't care were just like, all right, well, whatever, keep you pushing.
But then you got the other ones who just want to hold you right here.
Like, it don't matter how you grow or how you do the work or how you apologize or how you try to make things better.
But some people, it is never going to be enough.
You did this and this is it.
And that's not caring.
That's actually giving a phone.
Listen, I'm praying for him.
I'm praying for him.
That's what you get from me, Kanye.
I hope that you mean your apology
and I hope everything goes well.
But that's the extent of it there for me, huh?
I was going to ask you, when you're praying for people,
has Ray J entered your prayer list?
Why does Ray J. need to enter my prayer list?
He, oh, so he announced yesterday.
He almost died.
Did you see this story?
No.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I think you put on the board, but he...
Oh, no, he would just...
His heart is, um...
beating at 25% now.
And he was saying how bad it got bad.
So he got congestive heart failure.
He didn't say the word, but he was saying his heart.
What he tweeted was, or posted on Instagram, was just almost died.
I'm alive because of your prayers and support.
Then he went on to sell some stuff or advertise the Tronix Net.
But then said that his heart was beating at 25%.
And I think he had pneumonia at one point.
I don't know what's true and what's not because it's Ray J.
And so unfortunately there's some people who think he's crying wolf.
But just wanted to say, just to be safe, send some prayers out for him and hope he's okay.
And hopefully just telling the brother to slow down and recover if he's if he's dealing with heart failure.
Because that's something you don't want to play with your heart.
It is no joke.
So yeah.
I should queue up outstanding.
You niggins are.
Any other sad shit about somebody that's fucking...
I mean, rest of peace, Slide Dunbar,
legendary drummer from Sly and Robbie.
Yes.
Reggae legend.
Crossed over into multiple genres.
He passed away.
I think he was 73, I want to say.
Yeah.
Rest of peace.
Rest of peace.
I want to talk about Alex Hanold.
Let's do it.
Let's talk about Alex Hanold.
If you don't know Alex Hanold,
hopefully I'm saying his name correctly.
Alex Hanold is the guy
that is uh that climbed that free scaled
Taiwan 101.
Yes Taiwan the Tapea 101.
Not Taiwan.
It was in Taipei.
It was the Tapei 101.
He climbed it.
It was 6,600 feet.
Jesus tall.
Is he white?
1667 feet tall.
He is white, but he's a different type of white.
I forgot.
He's French.
Okay.
He's French.
She's French.
She's French.
He's French.
He's one of the whites.
Listen, I was unfamiliar with this guy.
I saw a bunch of people saying,
holy shit, what is this guy doing on Netflix?
I turned it on,
and it might have been one of the greatest things
I think I've ever watched.
And since then, he's been on my algorithm everywhere.
And the things that he has done,
the shape he's in,
how he prepares for these things,
how his brain processes or doesn't process fear.
Like, that was really incredible.
his wife was on like the 90th floor waving at him cheering him on
that's even that part right like when you into this type of
daredevil shit like getting your wife to be supportive
in this is absolutely nuts to me and he did this with no
string no harness no parachute no none of that
just a rope tied around his belt loop
with a little thing holding his powder for his hands
my god that shit was nuts it makes me nervous even talking about it
I don't fuck with, I don't fuck with, I hate taking photos on that balcony.
Nah, y'all got to understand the way this building looked though.
I saw it.
It was shit he had the little sculptures out.
He had to climb around and little breaks in between.
It wasn't just a straight shot.
I don't care what kind of shot was.
Yeah, they're not respecting my man.
Hold up, man.
This last time most people were actually afraid.
You know, like when's the last time people faced actual fear, particularly physical danger, like anything where they could actually get hurt?
Listen to their experience.
Because I think that if you.
don't experience real fear from time in time, you don't experience real danger and other things,
then your mind just sort of creates fears out of nothing. I mean, like, I see that when I travel,
like when I'm in airports, I always hear people like stressing the travel experience, like,
oh, what do we do with security? What do we do here? Like, what if we missed the flight?
And you're like, chill. You're like, you know, you're in a climate controlled airport.
There's food everywhere. There's abundance all around you. Like, what have?
The gang grew up in a other way. Like, who cares? You know, like, how can you get so worked up
about things that do not matter.
And so I think that the more real experiences you have with real fear, real danger,
things like that, the less likely you are to make mountains on mole hills, you know,
to like to worry about the stuff that doesn't matter.
This guy is getting a fan out of me.
Well, frequently ask, how do you get down?
And the answer is it depends.
Generally, I walk down.
Sometimes I down climb, sometimes I repel.
I mean, I have solo things where I carry the rope and then repel back down.
But for the most part, most things that you free solar are big cliffs and you can hike off the back side.
So you just climb up.
and then scrambling down the body.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely.
My heart is beating fast as just hear them say that shit.
Dead ass.
Privileged life.
Yeah.
That's what I heard.
This guy might be the greatest athlete I ever seen.
I'm drinking the milk.
Pause.
The cool.
The cool.
It's my milk.
Yeah, he's white.
So it's cool.
It's cool.
It's milk.
It's milk.
It's milk.
It's almond milk.
Oh.
Koolade from black.
I don't even see.
where your brain decides
that this is something you want to experience.
That is.
No, it goes in levels.
So he probably started doing smaller structures.
Did you see the movie?
And you start challenging yourself
and challenging yourself and challenging yourself.
Watch the movie.
He got a movie called Free Solo.
And he...
Again, I was like, all right, this dude is buggy.
Sorry.
I watched, because I saw the tweets about it.
So let me just see what the hell is going on.
So I watched it.
I was like, all right, this dude, I watched it to see if maybe he would slip.
This is a live stream of him climbing to do.
This was a live stream.
Yep, I even checked.
What time is it over there?
Because it was a whole crowd on the street watching.
They had a crew out there and everything.
But, you know, he did that shit with no slips, no, oh shit, no, no, none of that.
He smoked it.
And I'm like, all right, this dude's bugging.
So then they started telling me, go check out free solo.
Okay.
He different.
he climbed this shit like is nothing.
This little 1600 foot building was like him going to make coffee.
Yeah.
That was light work?
Like once you go look him up.
In 2010, he did a retro on-site free soloing of the original route on the rainbow wall,
which is 1,000 feet.
That's Red Rock, Nevada.
Okay.
2012, he free soloed the West Face, the West Face.
To my knowledge, he did this a few times.
So free soloing the West Face of El Capiton.
in Yosemite.
Okay, I think I had the operating system.
That's not telling me how big this is.
It's not telling me, okay.
2012, on-site free solo of La Fiesta
De Los Biceps in Spain.
I didn't even know, like, how are these buildings,
how are they climable?
It's all glass and shit.
It's like, Spider-Man shit?
It's a little, just a little fucking
in between a glass he grabbed it.
Like, and then he dip,
When he put that little powder on his hands
And get to climbing and moving
Sometimes he had to go to the side
This was the scariest shit ever
Shout out the Netflix for even thinking
To live stream something like this
I want to know what the liability was
If this guy falls to his
Faults face flat on the earth
Word
The talk is going around now about how he was underpaid
They gave me half a mill
It's a nice day
No it ain't
I saw somebody break that down
of how the business could get you.
All they could do is say,
all right, you got the name,
we offer you this,
you want more.
Because they said he wanted more money to do it.
All right, cool.
We'll go get Mr. No Name over here
who will climb this building,
but you want to do it with the whole Netflix
and all of that.
So either you take this deal
or we're going to get somebody else to do it.
I don't think,
I don't think the list is long
of people that are,
going to go just free solo this 1600 foot bill.
You're surprised.
But they do.
You're bugging.
All right.
Then we're going to witness a death.
Word.
Oh, yeah.
We're going to witness a death.
Brain splatter all over the ground.
Hey, newsflash, guess what?
Fingers strong enough.
Check this out.
And I hate to be that person.
You've been that person since the homeless topic.
Cool.
If that happened, it's motherfuckers that was two than in to catch that.
That's not good person.
That's not good.
That's not good.
You don't want brain.
They cut the camera.
way.
I got to figure him out.
I got to figure I ain't sound, yo.
I'm great.
All that dare double shit, you don't think people watch
to see if this shit goes left?
Yes, but the company knows it is not going to.
They kind of have to bank on it, never going left.
It don't really work.
No insurance.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
You put your hand into a lion's mouth.
You don't really want to pull back a nub.
You don't mean for TV.
You know what I mean? Like, sick free to roll.
You know what I'm saying?
The fans do.
Yo, this guy was up there hanging like a bat.
He wrapped his.
legs around one of the structures and lean back.
And just lean back to catch his breath.
Like just to, no.
You heard the whole crowd down there erupt when they had like,
oh shit.
Yeah, this thing was bugging.
That's good.
Nah, the crazy shit, like Joe said, with the powder,
because he had the shit on his back.
Uh-huh.
So he holding on, he reached back with one hand,
get some powder.
Reach back with the other hand, get the powder.
That's how I feel like after the shower when I'm getting the powder too.
After the shower when I get the powder,
I'll be on some LeBron show up.
I don't care.
Identify the moments where you feel like a superhero in your life.
For me, that's one of them.
Sorry.
When you pull a powder out your back pouch?
Yay.
Got you.
Listen.
Yo, I didn't even know I was into watching this.
Me neither.
This is what I'm saying.
Me neither.
I could totally watch this.
I was glued.
Palm sweaty, fucking joy dropped at the edge of the seat.
This was incredible.
Now I didn't think it's an ad, but it's not.
Netflix ain't paid me.
I'm going to watch.
I definitely think it's an ad, by the way.
Definitely, baby.
I'm just...
That's what Ian said
when we was watching Pat McAfee.
He was watching Pat McAfee
talk about Alex Hanold.
And Ian said, this is an ad.
He's doing an ad.
He's doing an ad integration.
And I'm like, I don't think he is.
Because why would you want him to do the ad
after the event?
Yeah, you'd usually...
Well, it's still not true.
No, no, no.
Because now that's build up for the next one,
nigger.
No, not just that.
Yo, now you act like they stopped making money
after the event is over.
Now I'm going to bring
a zillion eyes to the event.
Oh yeah, there's a stream.
It's a stream.
Yeah, it's living there.
Yeah.
Could have been an ad.
Well, this is not an ad.
Make sure.
Just though we're perfectly clear.
But I would like to get a Netflix ad
in the future.
There you go.
There you go.
There we go.
And we support them, right?
Right.
Yeah.
Also, speaking of Netflix,
y'all, I did turn on Netflix
and check out a few pods.
Oh, okay.
You knew I was going to do it.
It's in my kind of, that's my thing.
When I'm up at 5 a.m.
I'm nosy.
I was trying to, but Red was hate it.
I'm nosy.
I don't want to watch a sports pod.
I'm like, I just want to watch it see how it.
I got to tell you guys.
Murder mystery it is.
Most of you sports pods out there look like complete bullshit on Netflix.
Fam, some of them is like they was on their phone.
Some of them were on their phone.
Some of this shit was like, yo, fam, I know you holding them phone.
on a phone.
Some of them were on a bullshit,
blurry Zoom,
half screen.
Some of y'all...
Some of y'all with a production level
ain't right,
it looks painful.
It looks bad.
It looks bad.
And that's the thing about, like,
your psychology
in terms of some of these social media.
On YouTube, that's fine.
Right, right.
On YouTube, I have no problem at all
with your blurry...
Lo-fi.
Yeah, it's fine.
On Netflix, stuck out like a sword thumb.
I'm sure.
Now, to some of the podcasts that are,
have pretty good production,
yeah.
When I looked, the Breakfast Club wasn't near yet,
Rory wasn't near yet.
I imagine that they'll look different.
I'm sure.
Because they're not on a phone.
But you phone niggas on Netflix?
Y'all look horrible, man.
Yeah, they did sports for the first week.
And then I think it was Monday that the rest of the pods went on.
That gave me a whole new perspective on.
some of that Netflix deals going around.
I understand it now, like lethal shooter said.
Yeah.
Say war.
Or do you know what?
Nah.
Nah.
Nah.
Man.
Yeah.
That's your deal.
You man, Adam 22 got beat up the other day.
Oh, I saw that.
Well, I don't know if he got beat up or he ran a play.
Or both.
I think it was both.
I think it was both.
I think he wanted to win.
Did that bell ring?
Adam 22.
went to one of them
fucking fucking boxing matches.
Sorry.
One of them white nationalist
boxing events that they throw over there.
And he fought Jason Love, which is the guy that
slept with his wife.
Okay.
And he lost.
Yeah. Yeah. I can't think...
I think that he should be arrested for stalking this man.
Like if the nigger already
them beat your girl down, plowed her out,
gave her the best dick ever.
Now we're in a boxing match
with the same black guy
we couldn't find another black guy?
I think something totally different.
You think that's the guy
he should have wanted to pounce on it.
I think they all in this shit together.
I think they made a shit ton of money from that.
And we're going to milk the shit
until, no pun intended.
Shorty sitting there playing along with it
with her pre-fight antics and stuff.
All this shit is a play.
Adam, I think you ran a play.
I also think that that's how you fight.
Yeah, agree.
Yeah, two things, two things could be true.
Hey, if you was acting, I didn't think that varied too far
from the real actual script of you throwing a punch.
Sorry.
Oh, shit.
Anyway, I don't know why y'all get all dumb in the face when I say a bad.
I was trying to fight.
He was trying to fight.
He looked at all stupid intent.
Wow.
He looked a mess.
It didn't look good and it's like, it made me wonder, but I don't know him,
so I don't know how he normally fight,
But it looked like he was, I mean, going into a fight that untrained,
I just wondered why you would do that, like how he would have thought he would have won.
It's all part of the play, like they said.
And now we got Ack and Little Baby about the fight, right?
What happened?
I don't think that's going to happen either.
That's definitely not going to happen.
Yeah, it's not happening.
So what a Little Baby?
I'm just reading.
We're about to sound like old men with the T.
For sure.
It was reported that one of Little Baby's entourage members slapped academics,
and now academics is trying to fight Little Baby.
Yeah.
I think I have that, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Academics also stated that Little Baby's team paid him $30,000 to not shit on his album.
To not trash his album.
Not shit on his album.
And now actor saying he won $300,000.
But apparently the reason why the kid got close to academics was through Tileo.
So it was the whole thing with, you know, he let Tyler through, walking up to his car and the guy.
That's Axe Version.
Yeah, Axe version, yes.
But why would you want to fight Little Baby if?
if his man is the one that assaulted you.
He's saying that his man is not,
he felt like little baby sent this man
or co-signed that, that's what he's saying.
Oh, okay.
He said that, you did that, you sent that nigga to do that.
Why would your man?
After we had somewhat,
he had a phone call and had some peace
and I chilled.
So I guess he feel like,
because we had peace,
little baby, you were supposed to spread that
to your goons.
Yeah.
And it was supposed to.
be a word going around.
Oh, he also said that didn't happen.
So, man came out to the car, did whatever he did, and this was last March, and it
didn't hit the internet.
But now it's on the internet from homeboy, little baby's goon, who did it.
So he's saying now it's up with little baby.
Now, the part I saw, Ax said that he wasn't actually touched.
He said, dude didn't actually hit him.
So that's the two competing versions.
to do's that he smacked him.
Ax said he didn't,
he didn't put any hands on me.
Is all this shit to play to?
No.
No.
Okay.
This is real.
No.
I don't think it's a play.
My only thoughts on this, right?
Because this ain't none of my business.
Y'all go to these fucking events and Lord knows what be going on.
I'll be home.
But Axe said that a mutual friend between,
for him and Little Baby, is Rod Wave.
Yeah.
Okay.
And that was a Rod Wave concert that he would.
was at.
And the little baby called Rod Wave.
Like, you fuck with this bitch, bitch, that thing.
But I didn't hear anything else after mutual friend.
So if I can help anybody out there, there is no such thing as a mutual friend.
At all.
There's no such thing.
It doesn't exist.
What you mean?
Why do you think that?
Because it doesn't.
Explain.
Explain.
I don't disagree with that.
I know you do.
But it don't.
Let me hear you explain.
Somebody's always on one side.
That's not true.
Yes, it is.
And if you're the nigger and the beef, you can't afford to risk it.
You can't afford to risk it and find out.
That's different.
I understand.
That's all right.
If you understand that, then there's no such thing as a mutual.
That's not true.
You're just saying that's a risk.
I'm not arguing with you, niggas.
I'm talking, y'all can give y'all on take.
I'm saying if you have to move like that, if you go into a place where you think you got a friend and the person you beefing with got a friend, that's not true.
You on Arsenal had a back and forth.
Ice was in the middle of that.
It's not beef.
It's not beef at all
You're all gonna come with these false parallels
I'm talking about some real shit
I'm talking about niggas want to see you
And do something
Put hands and feet on you
Bullets and knives
Inside of you is what I'm talking about
So you're gonna be in that
You're gonna be in that situation
And think
Because my friend is here
I'm good
Yeah
No I see what you said
That's totally different
That's all I'm saying
That's totally different
That's not a mutual friend thing
That's what I'm saying
There can be somebody that you
You have both respect
That can squash some shit like that
They have both respect.
But the mutual friendship, no.
If you beefing with somebody, if you beefing with somebody,
well, I'm just about to repeat what I said already.
But if you're beefing with somebody,
you go ahead and trust mutual friend
and not fucking give up your location or anything all you want.
I think that's a dangerous game.
It is a risk.
But there is a, yo, when you and Rand was beefing,
I was friends with both of y'all.
And used to tell both of y'all, yo,
whatever y'all got, I'm going to do with that.
Don't talk bad about him around me.
Don't talk bad about him around me.
I'm not in your shit.
Yeah.
There are mutual friends in an instance where I'm typing.
But I think Joe's point is don't trust it.
Yeah, you weren't friends with me and Rand.
Yes, I was.
Yes, we was.
What year was me and Rand beefing?
Bro, there was.
Ice was no.
He was noly around.
Yeah.
He was no.
Well, that's just not tall's friend around.
Oh, shit.
That's just not.
You were an acquaintance.
I was in a, well, still, I was cool.
That was very early.
And that's when he had the blue escalate, right?
That was a, we were still feeling.
You know what I mean?
You see your man?
Enough to...
We're just throwing years already.
I had to remember.
Enough to leave a nigga and get a clue.
Are you on tour, though?
But I'm not your man.
No, that's a different year.
You in a time...
That's the year after that.
That was right after that.
You were in a time, yeah.
But still, what I'm saying is,
y'all was going through shit
like, and I'm like, your dog.
Also, another example where
me and Rand ain't want to hurt each other.
But other people did.
Me and Rand didn't want to hurt each other,
is all I'm saying.
I'm talking about when two subjects are beefing.
Anyway, I don't want to keep.
I do have another point.
Also, it came out
that the driver was the security.
Like the dude that alleges that he hit Act
is saying I walked up to the car
and once I saw that security was the driver,
I popped off.
Because he ain't about
to get active. You're behind the wheel.
Teachable moment number two
for you, niggas out there.
Your driver is not your security.
and your security is not your driver.
Now, if your security happen to have a ratchet
or is down to, you know what I mean,
get it in with you, that's different.
I mean, not your security.
Your driver, your driver.
If your driver is down for that,
then that's awesome.
But those are two different tasks for a reason.
And that's all I had on this.
I wish everybody well.
If the two niggas fight, I am going to watch it.
That's the part I hadn't heard yet.
I sort of saw a headline saying,
that a little baby had agreed
to the fight.
That's coming.
That's from fucking home boy.
From home.
Yeah, right.
A little fuckety fuck.
I know Iceby on the inside of some or something.
Have you heard any confirmations?
I'm not curiously.
I hate,
I hate Mark, yo.
I wasn't being funny.
You're such a dick.
I wasn't being funny.
I don't know them.
Oh, okay.
No, I meant like the internet.
He's not signed to them.
Yeah, I'm not.
You already ran down my resume.
I'm not.
Yeah, that's my part of this.
Yeah.
Got you.
Got you.
The internet was happy that
this was all
going on.
What day he got hit?
I won't say that, but
a lot of different sections
of the internet were happy.
Some people were happy that AC admitted to
accepting Paola because they felt like it would
help Drake's case somehow.
I don't fucking know.
Okay.
Who else was happy?
The people that hate academics
was happy.
Who else was happy?
The internet was kind of
having a little fake party
when this was going on.
And then the ACF fans was just happy to
him fucking spasning out on on little baby they enjoy a good axed out
out mm-hmm yo the driver's not your security dog one of you niggins gonna get
shot not act or uh not in this anybody yeah not in this i don't believe that any of that
is happening here but is that the same shit that we come up doing a shit though man come on
the same thing that sort of with tory his security as the driver yes yes and yes it's always a
mistake it leads to nothing but bad now would you say flip we come from different things so
I mean, the end is, you know, to watch it play out is fun, but we just, we look at things from different, you know, where we come from.
When the shit popped off back in the day.
We wouldn't put ourselves in those positions.
The nigga that, the nigga that went to go get the car was a nigga that could drive.
Exactly.
It was only the driver.
The shooter was in the backseat with you.
Yeah.
What is this new stuff?
You fucking drill kids changing everything again.
They want to drive and shoot and smoke.
Is it?
Yeah, a thing's being a cheat.
I just think the actors trusted the situation.
I don't think he just trusted it.
He just felt like, you know,
there's been plenty of situations that I went outside
and everything went well.
And he just trusted it.
And now, you know, it's a lesson learned for him.
He's a good guy.
I mean, I like him.
So let's see.
Hopefully, you know, nobody gets hurt.
That's my prayer always.
Indeed.
Because you, y'all might not be serious
or y'all might be serious or whatever.
But a lot of time it would be that third party
to do, they want to score points.
Yep.
Or get in the mix of some shit.
Ain't got nothing to do with it.
Or to actually.
point, yo, we supposedly squashed it.
Boom.
But it's a nigger that is trying to...
I don't like them rogue niggas.
Hold on.
I don't like niggas that go rogue, yo.
If you know why squashing, you go rogue
because you want to...
It's Ramadan for you.
He might not know.
You're on Ramadan.
But what if he don't know?
That's just...
I just think it's...
Oh, that's somebody that my man
got problems with.
He might not got the word.
That means that you're not really in the loop then.
That means that you're just doing something
to...
You think that I want...
want this to happen and you just causing a bigger problem than anything else.
You know how many niggas it is?
There's a lot of that.
I got you.
Shit.
I got to tell you, it does feel good to be beef free.
I don't think that that's said enough in hip-hop.
I ain't a lot of y'all, man.
It feels good tonight and beef or nobody.
Oh, you matured, son.
Yeah.
But I come with a lifestyle.
You ain't got a rich and fame and stuff.
You got a walk-in'-time-old.
You got a walk-in'-tim-Horten?
on the swivel.
Still got to be on a swivel though.
Nah, man.
The swivel, well, there's
modes to the swivel.
It's one, two, three.
There's an aggressive swivel.
There's a paranoid swive.
It's a quick little light check around.
There's a quick little light check around.
Some niggas that got to keep
their back to a wall.
Keep it back to the chips, niggas.
Come on back to the door.
Yeah.
Come on.
Now you go to talk.
get walking any hour you want.
Just happy.
Stare at the customer.
Look at y'all over there.
Ain't nobody looking to shoot you,
jump you.
You're just driving.
No tent.
People can see you.
Like, that's what you fucking 40s is.
I don't understand it, man.
I want the tent.
I want the tent.
I'm definitely with the tents.
Why, for you?
You can do fishbowl, bro.
I'm not.
Why?
You need a tent.
It's habitual at this point.
I'm not going to hold you.
I pick a car.
You fish bowl two-ish?
Yeah, I'm grown.
I go straight to the tent spot.
Really?
How are they able to ask you?
I said, I'm my fish bowl too.
Oh.
Yeah, I don't need that.
Joe, come on, Joe.
And the color of my car, like, if you're doing it for aesthetics,
like I think certain silver cars, black cars, white cars, they look good with tents just aesthetically,
but I'm not getting tint.
You know what look better than the tent?
Me.
Fuck it.
Facts.
You know what I mean?
Exactly.
You don't want to be bothered with him.
Way better than the tent.
You can drive and put your middle pickup for the dick as you?
Yeah.
You mad.
Kids started on that bullshit.
Like, what if they know that was you?
What if they couldn't see you?
He's mean on the road, nigga.
Yeah, man.
If you had tents.
I'm saying, all this.
My Mayback is tenant.
And as soon as you got it.
No, it's certain cars.
Your Mayback should be tenant.
Yeah.
Your Mayback should be tenant.
It's a damn near a limo.
My rose is not.
My rose is not.
Oh, I'm my Ferrari.
You're gonna look at me.
You're gonna look at me when I pull up.
Actually, in the Ferrari, you're gonna hear me.
Why would I need to not be seen?
You can hear me three mouths down the block.
Yeah, that 10 shit is for kids.
That 10 shit is for kids.
I ain't never growing up there.
You could do silver-office.
I wouldn't do it, but.
I wouldn't tent the windshield, but I'm tinting the windows.
Where y'all stand on the lawsuits?
There we go.
We're all staying on the lawsuit.
Let's get to the real shit.
I told Ish I thought he would kill if this little number he had on here was a Valor.
I like Valour.
And then Parks was like, he laughed me out the room on from Vore.
That's some 90 shit. That's some 90 shit, for real.
I think Valore is timeless.
But that being said, if you're bringing back the quarter zip, the quarter zip of Valor is where it's supposed to be.
Hand and glove.
Yeah, they go together.
I think that a valour is timeless.
It is.
I have several.
Sean John one.
Sergio joint.
Regular.
You're like old school.
That's that it's joint, though, in the valor.
I know. I know.
It's coming?
I've never seen you in Valour.
Yes, you have.
Valor.
I see you, Velvet.
I've worn Sergio Chitini suits up here that are Valour.
Really?
I've worn Valour up here, too, I want to say.
You wore velvet.
Yeah.
You were a difference.
Picture a time where you feel like you can't put a valour on.
Yeah.
I love Valore.
I just haven't seen it in a very long time.
You all tell Johnny No-Nos
His Philo Valores played out
Johnny No-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-O.
Yeah, yeah, Italian.
Oh, yeah.
Johnny-N-N-K-Ki got it.
You just say Johnny No-N-N-N-N-O.
This fucking guy.
This fucking guy.
Nah, shit's dope.
What else?
What else is important?
What else is important?
Fabio at 25.
I'm not doing that.
I'm not doing Fabio in 21 again.
Y'all not fucking killing my new year.
I'm cool.
I don't care about none of that shit.
What did you say?
That's if you saw that beautiful ceremony with Derek Rose.
Oh, shout to Derek Rose.
Let me hit the round of applause.
If it was better weather, I would have tried to go.
But that was absolutely beautiful.
Him and his wife, what the organization did,
all the players that showed up.
When they showed the jerseys that was up there,
that's a big deal.
Derek Rhodes, Chicago's own, like,
from day one, the whole way through.
in Chicago. So for that to happen
in Chicago, how could you not support that? It's like a
child, that is a childhood dream.
Indeed. And well deserved.
For sure, definitely, definitely, definitely.
Wait, what's that face? What face?
I agree.
He wouldn't have been next to my line,
but I think
what line? Of Bulls,
of Bulls players they deserve. I would have given it to
Disrobham. I think Des Robbins had his number of
retired already for what
he meant to that organization, what he meant to basketball,
what he meant for the greatest team ever
he's in the Hall of Fame
I think he probably should have a jersey up in the rafters
But I'm not bad at that
But that's not Derek Rose's problem
I thought Derek Rose deserved
I mean what he's meant to Chicago
It's so amazing
I also loved the
His interaction with his son on the sideline
When his son started crying
He was going back before
I mean the way he was talking to him
And what he loved about him
I just I thought all of it was
All of it was beautiful
You know shout to him
And Robben Jersey technically
Who else picking 91
That's fair
You know what I'm saying?
Like, we could lead out when
Ain't nobody gonna touch that.
Robben should be up there.
I just won his jersey up in the ride
because it's crazy that he's not retired anywhere, is he?
Detroit hasn't retired him, I don't believe, so.
And the Spurson Lakers wouldn't.
Yeah, it would be the, it would be the bulls would be the place to do it.
That's the only thing.
Well, when my jersey is raised and it's time to talk about it,
don't bring up dentura of it.
Don't bring up the other people's jerseys.
Yeah, that's a wild.
This is a Derek Roe.
How many MVP's Rodman got?
Zero.
Yeah, like, I don't hear all that shit.
This is, I don't know.
If he doesn't win MVP, does he get the jersey?
This is not even a Rodman talk.
I don't, I don't, y'all keep trying to rodman me.
I love the worm.
I love the worm.
We heard that about you.
It ain't about that.
It ain't about that right now.
And I thought he played more seasons.
I'll just check him.
He only played three seasons with Chicago.
That's what the fuck you need.
You got three championships.
No, listen, I'm not.
Mark Sports Tiggs.
I'm not against it, but.
Mark Sports Takes is like he came from a 60s,
cult time travels
to today and is trying
to blend
you know who should
you know who Jersey
should be up there now
Rodman's now
that's a crazy take
Dennis Robbins should be
to have his jersey
race with the rules
not a crazy take no
I think that's a crazy tank
and that's a crazy tank
and that's a world peace did wear
91 in honor of Robben
for a free time I don't think it's a crazy take
but I think it's a crazy take when you're talking
about Derek
Rose, what he means to Chicago to even bring up Dennis Rodman is a fallacy.
I'm not, again, like I said, my Dennis Robin point doesn't have anything to do it.
That's not Derek Rose's issue.
I'm just saying he wouldn't have been next in my line.
I think when you retire Jersey, you should retire them chronologically.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm not talking about who's more important.
I'm saying Dennis Rodman retired a long time ago.
Dennis Rodman shit is retired in Vegas.
For sure.
Right?
A couple poker tables.
Oh shit.
Definitely.
Derek Rose only played three years in Chicago, but he's Chicago born and bred.
It's different, bro.
He's from Chicago.
You said Derek Rose only played three years in Chicago?
Played.
Because remember he was on the team, but he got, he.
All right.
He's confusing me.
All right.
I think he's probably there for five years maybe.
Hold on.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yeah, I don't understand what.
Y'all's school would be watching.
No, but there was some, but there's some injury years, but in terms of like, actually.
It's still wrong.
You don't know.
It's still wrong.
We got it.
Derek Rose,
congrats.
How about congrats?
How about y'all learn how to do that?
Like I said, congrats.
I'm happy for him.
I'm proud of him.
I love a hometown story.
You know what I mean?
I love when somebody gets drafted by their hometown team
and plays their career
of major years there.
I mean, he was,
the only thing I think about Derek Rose
other than his greatness
is how much better he could have been.
Like, I wonder what his peak is.
When I always see the debate
to who's better Derek Rose in their prime
versus so-and-so in their prime.
I'm like, we never even got to see
Derek Rose's prime.
He was such an extraordinary.
athlete and he got I was there at the game where he got injured and um you know to watch his career
in not in but it's tragic it's never the same his prime get cut short it's tragic yeah it's tragic
he was special he should have been hung up before robin he played seven eight years in chicago
robin only played three granted robin did win three rings but robin wasn't the primary or
secondary focus of that team derrick rose was him robin wasn't the
focus or secondary focus
now.
What the? How do they keep
squeezing Rodman back into
this Derek Rose segment?
Squeez the worm in there.
So, BJ Armstrong.
Oh, my God.
You know, something is wrong with y'all.
Come on, we can talk football.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
That's not new football.
Come on, let's get to the serious stuff.
Well, before that, there was another jersey topic.
Yeah.
Camelna Anthony had Ty Lille on the show, and he was talking to Tilel about the jersey assigned LeBron James jersey that Camelo's son gave Tilel.
And Mello was telling Tilel that he should return to jersey.
It holds sentimental value, how important memorabilia is and stuff like that.
And at first, you know, Tile wasn't receptive to it, but he started to understand.
So a lot of people talk about it online.
He wasn't receptive to it at all.
me, he got a LeBron jersey.
So Mello was like, you should return that jersey to my son.
You know what I mean?
And that's what was going on out here.
And he's a big LeBron fan, isn't he?
He is a big LeBron fan.
But Mello, you know what I'm a big fan of?
My own shit.
Like, if I got shit and you give it away, I got a problem with that, especially my kid.
But maybe his son looked at it like, yo, LeBron, my uncle, man.
I get anything I want from a year.
I get one of the time I feel like it.
What?
What I'm saying?
Think about it.
I'm not saying you're wrong.
I'm saying that's the problem.
Any jersey he wants, but Melo looking it a little bit different.
I don't know what, you know, he looks at it a little bit different.
Like it's his shit.
I share Melo's position.
He looked at it like adult.
Where's your son looking at it like that's Uncle Brian?
Like, I could get this whenever I feel like it.
We'll get another one.
Kids do shit by the head.
You'll spend mad money on some shit and your kid will be like, yo, here, you can have it.
You're like, what?
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
That's normal, bro.
And they're rich, rich.
I just think I think it's normal.
If you're Melo, do you go track down the jersey?
You can't really do that either.
I want it.
Some OJ shit.
Yo.
He gave my shit.
You went here trading my shit?
That's my jersey.
Do you feel Todd Lil should give it back?
Yes.
Yeah, if he asked for it back.
You feel different?
It wasn't his to give.
See, that's where you got me.
Yeah.
Right there.
What?
That part.
Because if it was the Sun jersey,
And he gave it to him.
I mean, he gave it to me.
What do you want me to do?
You can't get mad at that.
No, we're going to give you the son's Gerserick.
No, it wasn't.
No, no, no, no.
No, I'm saying.
Return the sign, LeBron James jersey that was originally been gifted to his son.
It was his son's jersey.
LeBron gifted it to him.
It was a signed one.
Yeah, it was.
Oh, yeah.
Send that back, my G.
Send that back, big dog.
What the fuck y' y'all talking out?
He gave it to him.
I hear you.
It's coming back.
I get you a little sign book or something.
Yeah.
I like this jersey.
Take it back the sneakers the niggas that work then, right?
We can't get that itch no more than, nigga.
If we ask for shit in return.
Ish workers had the Gucci sneaks on.
Playing it was tight.
Playing foundations.
Right.
100 degrees outside with the new white.
All right.
You see, they're peeling.
It's putting cabin in something.
F. dot card is,
you know.
Put it tar in the drive.
The S-Dots.
You got some of S-Dots?
You know he had S-Dots.
He has some S-Dots.
He don't got him now.
Yes, he does.
No, he don't.
Yes, he does.
I would bet my last dollar's-in-a-old his-dick had S-Dots.
Who had?
Yeah, I had S-Dak card.
Do you have them still?
Did you have them?
Signed.
Right.
Anybody been to the workers?
Anybody been to his house a check?
That's not fair.
I bet you I can go out of your ass-dots.
Hey, Mr.
Because I'm gonna look.
I'm gonna be in the attic.
Look at you dummy.
That's right here
He probably got him in a glass case too
Joe would be that nigga
You're in the bathroom at
Yeah, why are you up to stay?
Yo, if I came
to the house and asked to use the bathroom
Would you walk me there or direct me?
I'm asking you.
You know, everything I say is considered a joke
But I really don't know
I don't think it is about these two
I don't think that's a dumb question
You still, nigger?
That's not stupid
Some people walk into their bathroom.
Man, it's the second door on the left,
your ass down there, second door on the left.
I ain't walking nobody to my bathroom.
I'm not walking to.
If I was you, I will definitely walk this nigga to the bathroom.
Oh, for sure.
Actually, he might go outside.
You know, that tree?
I'm going to his room, nigga.
Oh, you're actually both of y'all.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's him turn the TV on, see what's the brain he got,
take a picture.
See?
I go over there and pull that niggas siding off his house, man.
You be making the right.
decision, boy.
I'm gonna do some stupid shit.
I'm gonna start roofing shit, all types of nuts shit.
For real.
Anyway, um...
Your house gonna be bigger and more expensive than mine.
Well, which one of yours?
Because you're building in multiple countries.
I'm not.
Your house will be more expensive
and bigger than mine.
I don't know about that.
Okay.
I don't know.
I'm cutting cost every day.
Ain't that many costs.
It ain't that much cut in the world?
No, I'm cutting.
Ain't that much cutting.
That's going to be the nicest little single family you have to see.
The single family with a pool.
Look at Joe.
Single family.
Don't kick.
Don't kill the wretch.
Families vary in size.
That's the thing, too.
Oh, never mind.
Don't get me a story.
I think by design, I was just, I was just boring to be.
Don't say it.
Wow.
I think they'll say for Delph,
you know. No, no.
My heart is too given to be for Delph, but
yeah, I ain't
and we're conforming as shit, man. That's time of
wow. Anyway,
they'll get me started.
It's a long
boy.
Because every time
I said, y'all get all tint to the face.
Look at you all. I'm talking about me. That's all.
We're just worried about you as well. Yeah, yeah. We don't want you to, you know what?
Yeah, worry about yourself.
Right. Rock out there. Go ahead.
Come on, let's talk about Minneapolis and how pussy hip hop is.
Oh, it's a hot take.
Go ahead.
I don't think it's a hot take.
I'm sick of it.
I'm sick of it.
It's sickening.
It's sickening to think of the hip-hop I came from and the hip-hop I was introduced to
and think of the hip-hop that other people were introduced to and how silent hip-hop is on certain matters.
You niggas is pawns, pussies, and fucking puppets.
All of y'all don't have a voice to say shit.
Everybody.
It's too silent for me.
It's too silent when you see Americans getting executed on American soil.
By America.
Yeah, by America.
And then they go on TV and tell you every reason that what you just saw is not what is.
No time in my life could that happen and hip hop not being an uproar.
I disagree.
I'm not asking you.
I know.
We are on a podcast giving our stances and takes.
I think that hip hop has turned their blind eye to it because it's a white person.
Yep.
because it's white people.
And hip hop,
niggott is show.
We push a lot of anti-white,
whatever, whatever.
So if it's affecting white people,
hip-hop is looking at it.
And if you read the comments,
I don't think the show pushes anti-white.
We make jokes on white people.
Take that out.
No, take the anti-ball out.
I don't think that.
I mean, that's his position.
What I'm saying is,
if you read the comments,
they say, I don't give a fuck,
these white people,
they don't come to our back,
they don't come to support us,
when we going through trials and tribulations,
fuck them.
If you read the comments,
it's playing this day,
and it's very loud in the comments.
I don't give a fuck about them shooting white people.
People are saying it in the comments.
I'm struggling with this because I do think
when things happen to people who aren't you,
the natural human instinct is to have more distance from it.
Not just Alex Pretti,
who was killed this past weekend by,
rest and peace,
by these officers.
Not just killed murder.
I don't want to use that word just because it's a legal term, and I don't want us to get sued.
But he was certainly killed by police, and if he's found guilty, then it would be murder.
But I believe it looked consistent with a murder allegation for me.
He didn't have a weapon on.
They took the weapon from him and still shot him.
And we saw that playing his day on the video.
I mean, it's, it.
He wasn't in a threatening stance.
He wasn't nothing.
Like, you can't say that you shot him because you were in fear of your safety or your life.
There's five of y'all on this man.
he's down on the ground in a submissive positioning and he got shot.
My problem with that is just the hypocrisy when the fucking written house kid and all the millions
of other fucking gun-told Republicans are walking around.
It's the NRA and it's all the Second Amendment banger saying he had a right to hold the gun
that's a fucking American right.
And when this happens, he's a domestic terrorist.
It's fucked up and it's wrong.
It's hypocritical.
If anybody that stands by it, you can get the fuck away from me.
Facts, facts.
And let's not ignore the fact that they actually also just lied.
It's not just a matter of perspective.
The Trump administration, his attorney general's office, everybody, they've lied.
They said that this man was attacking police.
The ICE agents lied.
They said that this guy was in a threatening position.
He wasn't.
Well, that's a big problem I have with issues retort to what I said.
Yes, it was a white person, but it was a white person defending a black woman.
Bro, listen to what I'm telling you.
I'm not for, this is not my position.
I came in here for weeks and weeks and weeks and said anti shit.
to what's going on.
I'm telling you that if you read the comment,
the comments are saying,
fuck them,
they never come to bat for us.
I don't give a fuck when they are getting murdered.
That is what people are expressing.
So if you're talking about a hip hop thing collectively,
that is a lot of people's opinions.
It's not Isch's opinion.
It's not like it ain't our business type of.
I get you for where I was going with that.
But what he's saying it is.
But I get,
I also don't really agree with that sentiment
because when there was the various terrible things
that happened in the last administration,
there was plenty of white folks there protesting and saying shit.
Anyway.
I get what he's just saying.
Is that that's people's perspective, whether it's accurate or not?
I guess what I'm...
Yeah, but no, hold up.
Mark.
Slow down.
Who gives the fuck what people in comments are saying?
Like when I'm talking about hip hop and the people we listen to
being voices and almost
news and social activists
for what is going on regionally
that's not really
who cares about what the commenters are saying
like the rappers that I came up on
were community leaders
like this is bigger than I'm not really
I'm not really having like a music
and what hey what's your opinion
on this conversation
We have too many voices, and if all of them are silent, I'm going to assume some of them are and have been complicit with what is going on.
I think that's where I'm struggling, to your point.
And this is where I was going, just to your point.
I mean, I feel what you're saying about how people are doing it because of distance, but I feel like from being that thing.
But for me, even in Minneapolis with George Floyd, even, I.
I just felt like in the last 10 years,
I just feel like the artists are just getting further and further
away from a political consciousness.
With George Floyd,
yeah,
I agree.
With George Floyd,
was hip hop loud?
That's what I'm saying.
I don't think they were loud enough there either.
That's my point.
I feel like...
Loud enough is a comparative.
I'm saying,
was the hip hop community loud when it came to George Floyd?
They were loud when it came to George Floyd.
We just saw two people,
we saw three people get shot.
We saw two people get killed.
And Joe is saying hip hop.
is not loud. And I'm telling you that there's
a disconnect between what hip hop
sees that is their problem
and what they see is not their problem.
We are not in disagreement. I'm calling
those people that are from that
hip hop, pussy's, and pawns. I'm not disagreeing. I'm just
telling you that that is the...
That's the lens. And a lot of people
are speaking through that lens. It's not
me making it up because I don't stand with that side.
What I'm telling you is a lot of people
are saying this ain't our fight. Fuck them.
A lot of people are also saying, yo,
don't give a fuck about this immigration shit
the Spanish people don't come to our back.
People are saying that.
I'm not making that shit up.
That's what a lot of people's sentiment is.
I think you're 100% accurate.
People are saying, yo, these Spanish motherfuckers voted for Trump.
Now they get what they bargain for.
And see, I agree with your assessment 100% that the people are saying that.
My point is just I see a growing disconnect between our politics and our representation
in the arts.
I agree.
I agree that it was louder for George Floyd.
and it was loud in Ferguson,
louder in Ferguson,
I still feel like we're sliding down.
I still feel like it's getting worse and worse,
even when it is us,
but I also want to just add real quick,
even if I accepted like,
okay, Alex Prattie's a white dude,
you know, Renee Good, whatever, white.
These, I mean, are we going to say
these Somalians aren't black?
You know what I feel like we just keep...
Somali, excuse me, thank you.
We keep establishing new usas and them
if you were.
Yes, trick, trick,
yes.
That's what we keep...
And I think, for me,
it's a humanity
point. It's a decency point.
It ain't about what color you are. It ain't about what
your age is. I don't give a fuck about.
He dragged that Hondurian.
He lit us up with this shit.
General's two.
I don't think about. I don't give a fuck about what separates us.
We human beings, my nigga,
and it's a humanity issue to me more
than it's a racial issue or
ethnicity issue, I think, is whack.
But again, divide and
conquer is, has always
been a chore. For sure. For sure. That's what I'm saying.
Do you feel like that?
And you're on the total opposite side of that, right?
Like, do you feel like that some of the people feel that we've been going through this forever?
So now is you, now is y'all turning to see what we've been experiencing?
Do I feel that that's a right position?
No, I don't, no.
Do you feel that that's what people's stances?
They're saying it, bro.
It's not about what I feel.
So he's had another layer to it, though.
He's saying not just like that ain't our fight, but we actually want you to go through this so you can experience what we went through.
Because I heard
I saw some
Not necessarily want
But it's a lot of people
That's saying
All right now you see
What the fuck we was talking about
Maybe now it'll be a problem
How we talked about the
That shit is corny
It's very corny
But this is a lot of people
Let me just finish
With the opioid crisis
Right
When that shit was fucking up the hood
Nobody gave a fuck
Until it started to affect them out there
This could be a repeat
Like yo they've been doing this to us
For how long y'all
It didn't really rocked
Now that it's happening out there, now y'all see maybe y'all will do something now.
Earlier we were talking about, the reason why I said that, because earlier we were talking about
the whole guy that, you know, we were saying the Black Panthers took the flag and all that
shit, right?
Yeah. The guy you interviewed, by the way.
Y'all should check out his interview.
Yeah.
One of the, one of, a video that I saw was a Black Panther man but saying that we are
worrying about black people.
We're worrying about us.
We still got internal things to deal with.
We're not worried about what's going on.
A lot of the Hispanic people were not on.
our size and helping us.
People with voices are saying
these things and to me, I don't agree.
I was like from a humanitarian standpoint
like somebody's getting killed but the people with
voices are saying that.
Like y'all, y'all got to go through that. This is what we've been going through for
so many years. Police been coming up killing us in our
hoods. None of you guys came up and
defended any of that.
I understand. It's still the wrong mindset.
I think it's the wrong mindset. I think it's
the wrong analysis. You can't
get free if other people are unfree.
You just can't. You know,
Whether ICE is marching into the doors of white people, brown people, black people, whatever,
if ICE is operating like a, like a militia, then we're all going to be fucked by that.
That's my thing.
Like I ain't trying to get into the, all of the race shit about it.
When I'm, again, my original statement is how I'm feeling toward hip hop.
Yeah.
And the hip hop that I know was kind of birthed off of standing against the governing body and bullshit
the day was on.
Fight the power.
Against us, though.
No, but see.
The hip hop that you're talking about
was,
was against the government
doing that to us.
Ice,
I don't see how you could be a black person
watching what's going on
and feel safe
or feel exempt.
They haven't felt safe
for the longest.
We are in agreement.
We agree with you.
You're just talking about the community outcry.
And I'm telling you
that the reason that the community's outcry
is not as loud
is because they are looking at it
like,
I don't give a fuck about what's going
along with them. And I
disagree with it. Yeah, let me clear.
I'm just saying I'm just adding
another piece to this and I'm saying that
might be true but I also think there's a declining
political consciousness that's happening
year to year, decade to decade.
I mean, I think about... These things are getting money.
And I don't want to... And that's where I'm going with it because I also
don't want to romanticize the 80s and 90s because
there were a lot of artists that weren't talking about
that shit, right? But there were enough that
were and hip hop, to your point
was birth out of like anti-establishment.
We're going to fight the power.
Literally, but P.E., right?
We don't fight the power.
But then at some point is we want to get rich.
We want to be Donald Trump.
At some point, my president is black.
It's like, okay, so we're fighting the White House.
Fuck Ronald Reagan.
Fuck George Bush.
Fuck these people.
But now we're part of the infrastructure.
Now we want to be part of the establishment instead of fighting it.
And I think our aspirations have changed a little bit.
So I think that's what we need the political awareness and political education.
We need artists to come back.
Actually, no, take that back.
The artists are there.
We need to support and invest in the artists.
There you go.
Who are telling that truth.
I agree with that.
Yeah, I agree with that.
My man just got picked up, bro.
His sister called me yesterday.
A nigga that I know, you know him.
You've seen him.
He'd be in the strip clubs a lot, a lot in New Jersey.
Like, he's like a damn near VIP in the strip clubs in New Jersey.
They picked him up on January 3rd.
He's in a state penitentiary in Indiana.
He's black.
So for the black people that think it's not our fight, my nigga, they're not going to stop at Hispanics.
They're going to start fucking with Trinidadians and Panamanians and Guyanese people.
It's black and brown.
And they're doing it in our society.
They're not doing it in Texas.
They're not doing it in.
As a black person, it should be more frightening.
I agree.
To see that it's happening to white people.
I agree.
Yes.
Yeah.
Because if they don't give a fuck about them.
It's like, oh, shit, they'll do that.
You know how we are.
Like KKK militia type shit.
This shit is frightening.
Man, now some shit talking about some American citizens should be prepared to have to show
identification.
Yes.
To prove you're a citizen.
Yes.
Yo, y'all's hip hop is pussy.
That's what I got for y'all.
Y'all's hip hop is.
scared, timid, afraid, down, complicit.
Just a bunch of fucking bums,
but you want to fight for music rights and not no human rights.
You niggas are fucking disgusting.
That's real.
Y'all are disgusting.
You want to pop out to sell some shit,
but when your voice can actually matter for something,
they're scary.
They're scary.
I thought the Timberwolves were the forfeited their games or not came out to play.
They did.
They reschedule one of them games.
They reschedule.
I think it was.
Violence, but not.
not for how they felt. It's how they felt. Yo, we are sticked our stomachs with what's going on
out here with the protests and they're killing people and we don't feel good. We can't play a game.
Can't play a game. Yeah. They asked Anthony Edwards. Y'all see the Anthony Edwards interview afterward?
No. He was getting a little bit of flack for it. I'm not going to be hard on Anthony Edwards on this
because I just don't think he knows, but they sort of asked him kind of how he was making sense of
everything and he was like I don't have social media I don't I don't follow it up you know I
heard a little bit about what's going on I kind of know what's going on my prayers to everybody right
it was kind of the great answer it's not a bad answer great answer well no I don't I don't
I never saying prayers to everybody when there's a war going on can you imagine like praise
to everybody's not the right answer but I don't think he meant like prayers to ice and prayers
to the vicar yeah I'm going to get I'm going to read him in the most generous light but my
The reason I'm saying that is Anthony Edwards is a budding, if not complete, full-fledged NBA superstar.
Okay.
Right.
And your agents, your management, and the league almost always encourage you to have nothing to say.
The blueprint for being an NBA superstar is to not say shit.
They're safe.
Right.
And so again, as fans, we got to demand more.
Because it's easy to say why doesn't Anthony Edwards either know more or say more?
And of course, I would say, hey, read more, no more, say more.
Sure, he should.
But we also have to demand that as consumers.
there has to be a demand for that.
You know what I mean?
When Black Lives Matter was happening,
and Chris Paul and Mello and LeBron them stood up,
there wasn't demand for it,
but they were able to put their thumb on the scale
because they're the superstars,
and what are you going to do to all of them?
They were already established.
That's what I'm saying.
They were the anchors of the NBA.
This 24-year-old kid, I think it's a little different.
I'm saying the same thing.
I'm agreeing with you, but I just think it was different.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
They could put their thumb on the scale
because you can't do shit to the biggest names in the league.
So I don't expect Anthony Edwards
to stand on the island by himself.
I need the players to come together
and speak on this,
especially the ones who have the most power,
but I also need, we as fans have to demand
something else to give, to make it safe
and to give them permission to be able to be courageous.
People always need permission to be courageous,
and we have to give them that as fans.
By saying to the league, we want that shit.
Standard ovation for not playing the game in Minnesota.
Like, it just dawned on me the other day,
just how quiet all this shit is.
Like, I was just going on about my business,
but then I'm watching the news,
And then somebody was like, yo, the sports and the NFL's not speaking?
I'm like, why don't we just make the NFL to speak up?
Then we have to sports.
If Greg Popovich didn't have to worry about his health, he would be on a 79-hour tirade right now.
Where is that?
Bro, you know what another thing I just thought of?
I think they sound like that shit.
Go put a mic in front of Joe Missoula.
No, yo, you know what I thought of?
Good look at that.
A lot of motherfuckers are in agreement with some of this shit, too.
A lot of motherfuckers.
No, people just quiet.
No, people are down.
Yeah, a lot of people, yo.
A lot of the black people are.
People can vote it for this.
A lot of people, to your point, don't really care.
And that's cool in the real world, maybe.
But hip-hop, ew.
See, I take it as a lot of people down.
But now that y'all saying, I'm looking at it that way too,
I just took it as a lot of motherfuckers is scary.
I don't want to say nothing and piss off something and fuck up my money.
Like, I remember, I told you this story before.
One of my homies that played for your team.
And when the Kaplanckin shit happened, it was like, yo, why you ain't say that?
He was like, all right, cool, I say something now I lose this.
And I got X amount of people depending on me.
I just, I can't risk it.
I think a lot of these niggas is scared to come out and say something.
They might feel it at home talking to their peoples, but I know if I go take a stance.
Well, then let's never have a talk about freedom then.
Because what does it mean to you?
To me, it means no fear.
So a lot of these niggas are worried.
To me, that's the exact definition of it.
It doesn't help that all the major corporations,
Amazon's and Facebooks and all that
were standing behind, dude.
So there's a lot of people in media,
whether it's sports or whatever,
that are worried about losing their next check from Amazon
or whoever it may be because they were standing behind.
And to your freedom take,
a lot of slaves wouldn't leave if they was eating good.
I also read a tweet recently,
and it was after this,
and I can't, I'm paraphrase,
and I can't remember who to attribute it to,
but it's something like human beings look for
a way to be cruel and have it be acceptable to other human beings.
And that's fucked up.
So you divide.
Right.
You divide and you take away, oh, that's just them illegals.
Right.
You get what I'm saying?
So that's not a human.
It's not a man or a woman.
That's an illegal.
It's what they did to us, bro.
Yo, black people, they can't feel pain.
They don't have no souls.
Niggas doing dentistry and OBGYN and shit with no anesthesia because they found a way to separate us from
humans.
And that's what they're doing today.
That's how it always starts.
calling them illegals and they take away the humanistic perspective.
Criminals, illegal.
Yeah.
Aliens, yeah.
The five-year-old boy, you hear criminal?
What he did?
Right.
You start off with those who society look down on.
And society will look at you as almost like you're doing us a favor.
And will empower you to do more.
And then your true cause come out.
And to Mark's point, you can see very clearly the agenda when the states that have the highest illegal immigrant populations,
at least two of the top three are Texas and Florida.
and there is none of this shit.
And none of this shit is going on and they think.
Whereas Minnesota has a comparatively small number of illegal immigrants
and it's fucking warfare in the streets.
Exactly.
Florida has 10 times.
This is not what they're saying it is.
This is intimidation and warfare.
It's a war.
Swing states, black states, Democratic-led cities.
This is a political strategy.
Masquerading as a...
Yeah.
And human life is being used as being used as some negotiation tactics.
Correct.
Like, I don't want to hear Trump come forward with me and Tim Walts had a good
conversation.
Are you crazy?
Are you missing something?
Like, I don't want to turn the TV on and see that white lady.
I go, what's her name?
Prishton, Christina Nome, whatever her name is.
Every time she get on there, I get pissed.
I'm saying.
Every time she show her face, you get pissed up there.
And no crazy shit does?
Look, so I'm arguing with my niggas.
Like, I got a bunch of friends that are MAGA, like, proud.
And I'm arguing with them.
And I'm sending him to Christy Nome shit, because now they just
pulling back every lie she's ever told since third grade.
And they's like, yo, you support her, huh?
You support her, huh?
You support.
And I'm just throwing the shits out there.
And they are really making excuses, my nigga.
A lot of these niggas, bro.
Don't care.
It's crazy.
It's like a cult.
Do y'all find it hard to have friends?
I don't have friends with America, but do you all?
Yes.
Very.
Is it compromising your friendships?
Like, do you think their friendships are going to end?
Yeah.
Close enough.
Some of them are ending.
Some of them have.
Some of them have been in the trenches so long that I can't end the friendships.
Okay.
But some of them have.
Some of these shit's ended already.
Should be.
Like, all right.
Cousons and love somewhere that be, there'd be families.
issues ahead because it is.
My group chat every other
week. Yo, do you see what so and so it's like
another one bites the dust?
Yeah. Wow.
Like this shit is real, bro. Again, I think
it's a humanity issue more than an
ethnic issue, but
it's crazy.
Yeah, like he just happened
to be the most pissed
at Tim.
So Minneapolis
has to unfortunately
fucking go through this because he's power tripping.
But he would want to do it to California, but he can't.
California's too important.
Yeah.
California's too important.
He can't just go up there and start going crazy on Gavin Newsom.
A certain large chunk of California.
Go ahead.
Good one.
Look, I think, come out.
That's the bigger reason.
That's the bigger reason.
Salute.
You don't go to fucking my name.
Hey, Holmes.
Hey, Holmes.
You're going to get ice, okay.
It will be on ice.
Yeah, that's what I do you.
I think about that.
That's funny, son.
Go play with the little hippies up in Minnesota.
You know what they're smoking in Southern California?
Nope.
Nope.
You all come down here and sat up shop.
Holy shit is just fucking self-realization.
It's really scary.
The interesting thing,
I had every problem in the world
with what the Biden administration was doing with migrants.
And I have every problem in the world
with what the Trump administration is doing with migrants.
Right.
Doing to them.
And, bro.
it's night and day.
It was bad under Obama.
Be clear.
Obama deported more
motherfucking migrants
than any president of history.
And this is one of the arguments
that they're making.
And I said, fam, you have not seen
even during the Obama administration
one person's rights being
just totally stripped from them.
And fuck.
I'm sure it happened.
I'm sure it happened.
It's not widespread
media to where they're
making excuses for it.
And then it's carried over.
It's carried over now into green card holders
and American citizens' rights being violent.
True.
Yeah.
This is the next level of shit.
Like, there's some other shit, bro.
I mean, they don't want to joke about.
It's not funny.
It's scary.
Yeah, they're rating homes.
You start thinking about people who just might have
Hispanic last names that were born in America.
Or they being violated.
They being slammed on the ground, talk to.
They don't even talk to you in a kind manner.
Yo, get the fuck out your car.
Shut the fuck up.
Like, that's how they're walking up to you.
Yeah, they're talking to people like they're homeless.
you know, stop.
Can you stop?
Can you grow up?
I want y'all to know how that homely shit's down there.
But anyway.
But no, bro.
It's just a,
it's just a different thing that we haven't seen.
But we have seen it.
Yeah.
We've seen it.
We've seen it being conducted against us.
We've seen it.
Worse with us.
Down with this shit for some fucking tax breaks and cheaper gas.
And they're not getting one.
They're not getting that.
You know a fucking.
You're just disgusting.
I'm so glad I'm retired.
I'm glad I'm not standing next to my hip hip
niggas.
Yeah, yo, it's another R word.
Repulsive?
No.
You're not retired.
So glad I'm rich.
I'm looking for everything.
I'm so glad I'm rich.
I'm not going to deal with this shit.
So I'm glad I'm going to be on tour in Minnesota and fucking.
But the funny shit is I do have to deal with it rich.
That's the point.
Your money don't make you exempt.
nigga, my drive is African.
My fucking, my cleaning ladies,
that my staff is like...
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, rough.
The Uber Accord today?
I'm just saying, there's people that have been in my life
for over 10 years, like, that are important to me
and that I love that are coming to me with stresses
about their whole family, and it's like...
And it's nothing you can do about it.
This is sick.
This is sick.
You got a feel for them, bro.
This is sick.
Yeah.
Jokely as hip-hop niggas.
As a hip-hop artist, when you look back on your career,
do you, are there moments where you wish
you had said more political stuff
or been more outspoken?
No. No.
I was outspoken for
where I was as a 20-year-old
which was
inadvertently focused on me.
I hadn't gotten to...
That's why I'm not...
That's why I don't vibe with your
Anthony Edwards take so much.
Like the ASAP Rocky shit, part of my beef
with him was I'm putting a mic in front of him
and hey, how do you feel about these very important
political... It's like some of these people, Anthony Edwards
has put his foot in his mouth before and I'm sure he's
been instructed by people to, hey, play safe, play you safe.
Keep it short.
That's why I say. Read more.
Say something about more.
So at 20, same for me.
21, 22, 23, 24, 25.
All of that, same for me.
I didn't start saying, my dad used to always say, my whole life,
whole family would laugh at him.
Now I understand his pain.
He would say, one day you'll learn that in America,
it always has to do with race.
Always.
Me and everybody, I shut up, nigger.
It was cool.
Shut up,
the old ass nigga, yada, yada, yada, yada.
It wasn't until later in my 30s
that I started to really assess
the functionality of America.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he's kind of right.
And how it would have affected me and people and, huh?
See, for me, it's money.
It's both.
We know.
I think, as you got more money.
You don't they go hand to hand?
It's always, no.
It's always a.
I think they are distant cousins, but I think it's always a money play.
Like, even in all of the tyranny, it's always a money play behind it.
Like, it's always something that's leading to somebody going to monopolize off of these actions,
whether we take in this land in the name of racism.
We take in this land because we look at these people less than.
They don't look at, they want the money.
They want the land.
So that's just their means of getting the money.
And I was going to say, those two things connect.
There's a great book that everyone should read.
point in their life, but black Marxism. Can we get the name of it? Black Marxism.
Thanks, Maher. Thanks, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill.
By Cedric Robinson. Finally, the name of a book. Do you have it to Uncle Bobbies?
We do. We do. Unclebobies.com. That's it. But you can get it for free online. PDF.
I don't... I don't...
You're reading it. I'm not saying you're saying to...
Oh, I know you weren't. But they're assholes in the world that I think I'm doing this
is a book plug. And I make like a nickel on a book. A book like that.
But anyway, this idea, I'll be real fast. This idea of racial capitalism is important because I think
that's what both y'all are talking about,
because there's always a debate of,
is it racism or is it economics?
But the theory of racial capitalism,
to make it really short,
is that all capitalism is racial capitalism.
And that whenever you have capitalism,
capitalism thrives,
not just from having a ruling class
and a working class or bourgeois and proletariat,
but it also works through the racialization
of a group of people.
So in other words,
it's not just that you have people
who have most of the money
and the resources and the means of production,
is that you have to then create a race of people
to justify not giving them shit, right?
So the differences between black and white people aren't real.
Biologically, there's no difference between, you know, ice and poe or whatever, right?
Like, biologically, we're all the same.
But we create racial categories.
Ice and pole, they look a little bit.
I love that up for you.
But that ice and pole.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought that was, wow.
And honestly, with all this shit going on with ice, change your name, you know.
Have you thought about that?
You can't keep being ice.
I can't keep being ice.
I think about freezing.
Okay.
Flip did that.
Especially officially ICE, because that sounds like real government.
That sounds like, and you, and you are a fad ass man.
And you're a fat ass man.
Kind of tracks.
Do you get tweets?
Yeah.
He would.
People like mistaken you.
Yeah.
I used to get out there and be ice too.
You're crazy.
Don't play with me.
All right.
Enough.
Get your ass here now.
Get on the ground.
Guys, I got one.
I finally get the dust off my schistee.
We got him.
50,000 sign of voters you say.
Nah, man.
Did he do it?
Is he illegal?
Yep.
Yes.
I just,
I just,
what did you say?
Is he illegal?
No, man.
No, no, no, no.
You all fucking disgust me.
If you think I'm talking about you than I am.
Anyway,
nasty ass niggas,
silent as a fucking church mouse.
Damn, you,
what did you said?
that shit.
I'm thinking like,
somebody usually
at least put a song
out addressing something.
Even if they're not,
even if they're not
in the streets
march it,
like somebody say something.
You know what's funny?
I ain't even,
I ain't even,
in my hip-hop
talking that I'm doing,
to be clear,
I don't have to go back
to the 80s for this.
Like,
damn.
I'm just thinking as you've been saying that shit.
If we were in,
if we were in,
you could pick an error.
Pick a error.
The 90s,
the mixtape error
would have addressed this
top.
to bottom by now.
With a punchline in real time.
Something would be letting you know
that hip hop is aware
and this is how we feel about it as a whole.
You ain't got to give a fuck,
but to just be silent on the matter as a whole
and see what you're seeing on TV.
Go on business as usual type of shit.
I don't see it.
You niggas disgust me.
You're filthy fucking rioting.
Like I'm thinking about your freedom record.
Vick Mesa just put out some bars.
Little babies are the bigger picture.
That's what I mean.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Shout to thank you.
That's it.
I'm not saying,
I'm not saying, you know,
but I'm just...
Vic been on it on social media
on the wax.
Yeah, he's gonna fucking get on his social media
fucking with shirtless eating a pear
telling you about what the fuck is going on.
That nigga,
that nigga,
got more oranges than a little bit.
Is that what you got that orange shit from?
Who?
That's where he go.
He goes to the orange pills too.
I know if you stole his swag.
Yeah, who did it first?
Yeah, 10 years older than Vic Mincer, bro.
Stop playing.
So you've been eating orange pills.
Yeah.
He repped that shit
No look
Vick can go pull the arms down
Give his little speech
Soliloquy and be
He'd be killing it too
He's been body and shit
He's been killing it
Still looted to him
The way hip hop tried to get on
Calid ass for being quiet
Yeah
Oh good point
You get the fuck out of here
Good point
Pawns and pussy's
Anyway
I didn't start
I can move on
I get too mad
Your illiteration
False prophets
Anyway what's next
What's next
What's next
Another press illegal matter.
Chad Seuss Ferell.
Did he?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's like enough.
At some point.
Yeah, dog.
We got chit to deal with.
It was a little odd.
It was a million dollars in royalties, which doesn't sound like a large percentage of probably what he would have been owed for half.
I think he's just from the first album.
Oh, okay.
That's my understanding.
just from one album.
From one album.
Yeah.
There was some stuff
about some merch and shit in there too,
but maybe it was all related
to the first nerd album,
which is a cult classic.
How did that even happen?
Get that nigga his million dollars
before it even makes the papers.
Unless you feel like he hasn't owed it.
But even if he ain't get a nigga's million dollars.
Oh, actually it's from the,
so it says the 2017 album
No One Ever Really Dies.
Okay, second album.
But it's still from a very specific project,
you're saying, merch and other stuff from that.
It's odd that it's,
It's made public, though.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Man, what y'all think about what he put in a lawsuit?
Let's hear it.
I'm reading this from, what's this?
Complex.
Hugo, who in the suit refers to his role in the Neptune's partnership
as the principal composer, arranger,
multi-instrumentalist, and producer responsible
for the programming, instrumentation,
and overall sound design.
It's basically saying,
I did all this shit.
Well, he went further.
He also said Ferell was more so just the visible guy.
Yeah, he was divisible.
I think that that's a fair assessment from what I've seen from the little behind-the-scenes videos
and them making beats together and all that shit.
It's from your test, Neptunes versus Feral Williams as producers.
Ferell's still amazing and dope and killing it, but Neptune's is a different monster entirely.
The heart of Hugo's issues with Feral deals from N-E-R-D music LLC, a company they formed in 24,
14. Hugo's suit claims that it was Farrell's sole responsibility to provide information about income, expenses, royalties, and other financial issues.
That sounds like a mistake.
That sounds like a mistake.
It sounds like a mistake.
Under the terms of the company, William's a mistake.
Yeah. Under the terms of the company, Williams gets half the money from touring and other income, while Hugo and Haley each get 25%.
The merchandising and trademark income is divided equal.
amongst the three members.
And he's been trying since 2021
to get the financial records.
To know how he's had luck.
Ooh, that's nasty.
It's nasty.
This is very nasty.
That's what I mean.
But I mean, if I've exhausted every other
because I'm going to have to,
I got to sue you to get access to these records.
And I have to assume he at least feels the way.
I don't know who's right and who's wrong,
but I can't imagine he didn't try some behind the scenes,
you know, everything else but this.
Yeah, I don't want to get to this point.
Like, let's fix this shit.
I hate it.
I hate seeing this stuff.
I would like to see them make music together.
Honestly, that's never going to happen.
Once a lawsuit was involved.
This is the part I hate.
Why?
This is the part I hate about where we are as a hip-hop community.
Niggers could be at each other's throats.
Ready to kill each other.
I just want to slap.
I do that game 50 remits.
Here come on, we still get some funny.
They're going to kill each other.
Maybe.
baby.
Chad been low for how many years?
We just talked about the suit shit.
He'd been going for...
Well, they got back together for a little bit.
I forgot what year that was,
but there was a period of time
where they were back making music together again.
And then...
That was way before the Louis Vuitton shit, right?
That's before Virgil died.
Right?
Yes.
Yes, my nigga.
Rest of peace, Virgil.
This was in the 2020s.
I'm pretty sure.
Listen, I have a whole other theory
that has to do with this topic,
but...
Forrest's responding.
is an alien.
The same way they say new and old Gucci,
there's a new and an old Varel.
Have y'all looked at Forel recently?
Yes.
That nigger's out of you, man.
I don't think that's a human.
He's not even a cyborress or shit.
He don't look.
Joe knows the truth.
Who are you going?
Where you go?
You can go.
Yeah, I think Forel is from some other type of.
Hey, brother, hey, brother.
Like, when they be throwing shit on his outfits and shit,
he's like, yo, no, no, no, don't get mad at her.
It's all right.
I'm praying for you.
Like, he got an OG.
The last slide of that wealth shit that I was reading earlier,
the last one where it says $2 billion to $2 billion.
Plus the final sentence is this isn't,
this is an alternative reality altogether.
Oh, I'm sure.
Yeah.
I can believe that.
And I think that that's where a lot of people are.
Yeah.
And on podcasts and these news shows and these, yeah, I mean,
we're not, we don't be there.
So that's the variable that's often.
missing from some of these conversations is
a lot of these people are living in
completely different realities
where one and one makes three
sometimes and that three is correct math
yeah back to whatever they said about
the shit being asymmetric like it was a lot of shit
I can't wait to read that shit I don't think the numbers that high
I think some of these motherfuckers really do live in a
I remember people was mad at Wayne for certain comments he made
Mayweather, certain comments they made
but these niggas living in a different world
where they don't even, it's not an excuse
be clear, I'm not excusing it,
but they really, I think
these niggas be so out of touch
because they live in a different reality
they don't even know what the fuck is going on over here.
I'm agreeing with you
and the alternate reality shit
that's why when we had some of these JZ
arguments and all of that. I'd be like, yo fam
these, it's like a giant,
the vision,
his analogy with the giant
And yo dog, if you five foot five, you can only see a certain thing.
A nigga that seven foot can see way farther than you.
You just ain't get up there yet.
So you don't even understand what they're saying.
Now, to the Wayne and Floyd shit, I kind of disagree because you grew up in the trenches.
You wasn't born rich, my nigga, so you know the plight of the ghetto still.
You know what I mean?
Like you babies your father, nigger.
Like, y'all been in the trenches legitimately in the trenches so you can't just discount that shit once you get some money.
Floyd and them was poor.
Your father was in the street.
Your uncle was in the street.
Y'all grew up a certain type of way.
We're not going to just get a certain level of money
and just discount that this shit exists.
I'm not saying...
I'm not saying that you discounting that it exists.
I'm just saying you're so far removed
that you don't even notice it.
You don't see it.
Your world exists up here.
You don't even see what's going on at the ground level anymore.
So you're missing it.
I think once you're pulled...
Somebody pull your coat tells and say,
yo, dog, look at what's happening.
You'll see it a little differently.
But because of what you...
your view, you don't see it.
And I just want to say, Farrell did respond to this lawsuit.
What do you say?
Ha ha.
They put a statement out.
It says the lawsuit is filed.
The lawsuit filed as there may not even be a dispute between the parties.
If the accounting review determines that money is old, the appropriate party will pay it.
That sounds like.
You know, you know what I ain't got to say.
You got me.
I'm going to get your money, my nigga.
Yeah, I'm going to get your money, my nigga.
Why are we doing all this?
You got you.
You're not asking you.
You could have texted me.
That's how Farrell come off today.
Like if somebody came in him with this,
he was like, yeah, you're not bothering me about this, are you?
A million?
Like, how, this little million?
Or I'll get to it.
And I just ain't got to it.
And that million might mean a lot to you.
Hey, Chad, do me a favor.
I'll get to this in 2039, right?
Go find yourself somewhere comfy to sit
and watch these runway shows.
Got some brand new clips records.
Hot damn.
Got some new.
Some new clips records I'm premiering.
Oh, shit is crazy.
Shout to Chad.
Tune into the Grammys.
His nakes getting that money out here, boy.
You ain't watched what's gonna call it?
Yeah, did you?
What?
This shit doesn't send you.
I'm hooked.
What's that?
Buy Manhattan?
Bro.
By Manhattan?
That owning Manhattan?
It's a, it's a, yo,
niggas to be out here spending $14 million on 3,000 square feet.
Niggas just out here got money.
You're like, yo, what the fuck?
I do that a lot when I'm home to alone.
60 million and you lost the bid.
Nigabit $58 million, $15 day closing and lost.
Cash.
That's a different world right there.
That's a different world.
I can't even imagine that.
No, no, nitty-eight-mill cash and you lost.
He cursed the dick and I hung up on.
I'm like, niggas don't say no to me.
Cash?
I thought he seemed like a real thing.
It was 56.
No, they won it 60, and then they could bid 58 cash or some shit.
and he was like, no.
Yeah.
No.
And then they got a buyer.
That makes all the sense in the world.
I'm like, yo, dog.
Well, if it makes sense.
Sure.
But if my number's 60, then I'm looking 60.
If you don't have 60, then I'm not fully talking.
Oh, the nigga had it.
He just was like, yeah.
I know.
Negotiation tactic.
And I'm doing cash.
Come on.
Come on.
Come on.
Now at this level.
Yeah.
I asked you for 60.
I want 60.
I don't need.
We all have it.
Yeah, yeah.
You have it.
I have it.
I have it.
I'm not out here.
I'm asking.
This is what is you.
It's a matter of really
tug of war at this point.
No, it ain't.
60.
No, I'm a fuse.
I'm a gazillionaire.
I want to pay 55.
Yeah, and that's how I be.
Two million dollars of d'n't
wipe their ass with it.
I'm gonna go get this 60.
For a Chad, boy, I ain't gonna front of
a father rapper right now.
I'll be trying to go get a chat beat.
Word, a bunch of.
What does Chad do right now?
A bundle.
A whole whole sit-fow.
He's pretty post pictures of studio shit, so he's
doing something.
I don't know what.
Spend your whole budget on that nigga.
Well, right there.
There's a few producers I'd be thinking about
And it might be for the cheap
I'd be wondering about
Oh that's what I was saying
The fucking the distance traveled
From where you was in poverty
To where you are out of poverty
It ain't far
It ain't far at all
Depending on how far out you are
And the projects I was born
And was right there
Section 8 poverty
It's right there
We're across a billionaires row
It's right there
You can see it
You can look at it
The guy wake up over there
He's a billionaire
I'm right here
Not a billion.
We was right down the street from here
when they was cutting off my PSCNG
when we was repoing shit.
It was right down.
It was no more than 400 feet away from it.
The distance.
Right there.
My first crib.
My very first crib coming over here.
I'm glad there's someone else that calls it a clicker.
Yo, dog, remember the clicker stop working?
Yeah.
That nigga wasn't paying the shit.
Yeah.
They had to go around the thing.
I'm just saying I think about shit like that often.
I think God, like, does little shit like that.
Anyway, you go to Bergdorf every day.
That's, that's 50, what is that?
59.
So, no, 56, but it's over for that.
It's all, all that.
And it might be 54.
It's over.
It's over.
It is over, buddy.
Serious lifestyle change.
You need me to go back to the slide.
That slide is inspired.
Serious.
And you know that gold over $5,000.
Serious.
Stinking ass gold.
Please.
I'm stuck on with you.
silver is.
Yo, the gold over five grand.
Good for gold.
Stinking niggas.
That's silver and gold.
Anyway, you know, discipline, discipline.
Preservation now more than making.
I could go, I could go home and just look at shit
and figure out where to earn more faster than I can
going out and asking somebody to, it's there already.
Yo.
I'm growing up.
I'm telling you.
One 10?
Silver.
That shit was $87.
was like a week and a half ago.
It was 114 this morning, and we down.
It was 113 yesterday.
We down a couple.
It'll go back on.
I'm telling you.
That's the old was out of here.
What was I saying?
What I was saying?
What I was saying?
What was I was going somewhere?
I was going somewhere.
We could do, uh, is there anything else to do before football?
You watch anything good during this snow, Snowden?
I watched my kid almost eat me out of house.
I watched my kid almost eat me out of everything we own.
And that is it.
And it was football all Sunday.
That's true.
Football all Sunday.
Saturday, I wasn't on nothing.
Yo, I got to say, we laugh and joked about it.
Because I don't mean we both spoke about watching the first episode and cutting it off.
Hijack is good.
It is good.
That's I watched it.
I watched all three episodes that's out.
And hijack is good, bro.
What they did with it the story this season?
I think you'll fuck with it.
All right.
Well, at some point I'll get around the London crime.
I'll check out what they're doing.
It's a Germany this time, okay.
Yeah, it's Germany.
Okay, okay.
Germany.
Germany.
Oh, I did start something on Fox called Memory of a Murderer.
Dog.
I see in the first episode.
Now, that's a good show.
You?
I'm not in it.
That's a good load.
A murder show for you?
You was watching Fox again?
Keep on right after.
He's back.
He's back.
I've seen it on Hulu, but you was probably on Fox, huh?
I see the first episode.
It wasn't bad.
It wasn't bad.
That show is good.
That show is good.
I'm trying to watch all the movies that are in the Oscar Best Picture.
I've seen a lot of them.
I watched Bagonia.
Which is really fucking weird and kind of awesome.
I think you like it.
And that's the thing.
Some of the shit we never heard of, we'd be dissing it.
You go watch something.
It's about essentially a conspiracy theorist that kidnaps the CEO woman because he thinks she's nailing.
The conspiracy theory dude is the dude.
They call him Evil Matt Damon or something like that.
He was in Big and Bad.
He was in the Love and Death show.
Yeah.
And it's Emma Stone is the girl.
It's really, really good acting and film work.
And the story is good.
Leave it right there.
You told me conspiracy theory.
It's weird as fuck, but it's kind of good.
I take it shot.
That's why I did shit to win.
I'll take it.
We got another snowstorm coming this weekend.
I feel like it was on Apple to somewhere.
Another snowstorm.
What the hell are you talking about?
Check your weather app, fam.
It's another one coming.
Saturday.
to Sunday.
Yo, God is on bullshit.
No, God heard all that shit.
Saturday, it's going to be a degree.
No, hit the feels like.
And not the deal.
No, that feels like.
No, hit the feels like, my nigga.
Fuck all that.
Hit the feels like.
It's going to be one.
I got you.
I didn't know there was a feels like button.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah, I got you.
They manufacturing the weather.
And if it's a feels like button.
23 is the high.
Feels like negative five.
Geesh.
Precipitation.
Well, I'll be fine, though.
That little monster is sins problem to deal with next weekend.
I'll be chilling.
Let's see.
That's the weather segment.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And my heat wasn't working too.
Oh, shit.
Oh, wow.
Then you just get the Rolls-Worice and heat is in there, some shit.
Yeah, that's the fucking problem.
That's the problem with all that fancy shit.
Nah, I got a bunch of sensors on it that'll stop you from burning the house down.
No, no.
It's all they say, y'all, the mother boy fucked up.
That's what they told you.
got rid of all the niggins did was
yeah the mother boy
fuck that they come and fix it's cool
they can't play with me I was space heating them
down
them shit too
them space heater
I had like five of them
shit's plugged in but
listen when it's cold out
girl
who are you holding
I don't care
what Joe
yes no film
your dog
and that was
any one of us
your little entitled
would be like, you bummed, broke-ass niggas still got a space heater.
Oh, no, I didn't have.
I had to go get something.
I know.
The fact.
It's poverty.
He'd be like, y'all know what to get.
And that was us?
Just know that I don't call that poverty.
That shit's hit.
Poverty.
You call much higher shit poverty, job.
Is when there's a blizzard and you don't have nothing that can heat something up.
The space heaters?
It's a poverty.
Hey, whatever.
I mean, I'm not against it.
I felt like Ricky Rich.
Ritching Rich.
Fuck you talk about
I'm not against it
But if that was one of us
I walked over there and put that bad boy right on 90
Dude do do do do
Dude dude
Dude dude do
Dude dude do
Dude shit when it got too cold
I went over there
Put my feet by it
Ooh
Yo I was in there so bored
You put your foot by that shit
To the point where your flesh
about to burn on
That shit feels good
You're crazy
That shit feel like the adobe
You try to touch it
When you put your mouth by the fan
When you was
You know
That's what that's like to me
I had a blast
I got a space eater
Yeah
Seven of them.
And he went OD with it too.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, no, I bought mad.
I know you did.
And Home Depot ain't slick.
Y'all not slick?
I went in there.
Well, first of all, because I had Space Heaters last year.
And then I didn't have them.
But they were so good.
I went looking for those.
And when I went to Home Depot, I don't want to get mad.
I think they, it's something that looks generic.
I think it's a Home Depot brand that they signed and they pushing Wii warm or something.
When I went in a Home Depot brand that they signed.
in Home Depot.
We warm.
When I went
Home Depot,
when I tell you
they had 200 boxes
of We Warm
Space Heaters
lined up
product placement
in the middle
and had one
of everything else
the box was open
and that shit
was on the floor
dumped over.
I was like
oh they're getting money.
Everything is a scam.
Yeah, what's the green shit?
Ryobie?
Home Depot brand.
Is it really?
Yeah.
I didn't know it.
The green shit is
committee or something.
He said what the green shit is.
That means doctor visit.
The thing is a fucking dough.
We're warm.
Yeah, I'm looking at now.
I'm trying to see.
Look, anything is that ad here.
Let me see what else, what else, what else, what else?
What else?
What else?
Let's do football. Let's do football.
Seahawks ain't no joke, boy.
They're tough.
Seahawks ain't no joke.
They kicked them.
That was a fucking great.
They ain't kick their ass.
They didn't even able to win that game.
That's not true.
Please.
If, no, what the player of the game was,
They were beating them handily.
When?
I'm about to tell you.
They were up 31 to 10.
They were up 3110 and then the dude did the dumb shit with the taunton.
Yeah.
In the very next play.
That wasn't 3110, y'all.
That was 31.
No.
It was never 31.10.
I'm sorry, 31.10.
I'm sorry.
My fault.
It was 31.
It was 31.
It was 31.
They were about to get the ball back.
They had stopped them.
Dude does the stupid taunting shit.
It was fourth and 12.
It was fourth and 12.
Yes.
They had the punt.
They gave him a.
first down, next play Pookin Nicole
touchdown, and that's what made the game
a little bit more interesting. That game
was not the most interesting game until
that point. You disagree?
I don't disagree. Before that, taunting
was the special teams blunder.
LA? Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, yeah, no. Yeah.
Seattle was whipping their ass. Seattle was
whipping their ass, Joe. It was a... I don't know.
It was a one side of game. I don't know what game.
If they're up by almost two tuds
that... About to get the ball back? In the fourth quarter.
That's not a close. But they didn't get the ball back.
back and the other team scored
and now it's a one-score game.
Because of the taunting, which I thought was not really the
fairest of toning penalties, but whatever. They called it.
No, he was in the referee.
He was in the coaches face, damn near. It was some
stupid shit. They was about to fight. Yeah.
Seattle do was about to fight them on the sideline.
I'm saying this. Take away
that penalty is the fourth quarter.
We up by two scores.
And we got the momentum. We getting the ball back.
All that shit. That game wasn't tight.
Seattle looked like a better team. By far.
Throughout that game. By far.
They look like the best team.
It looked like Matt Stafford was doing some Matt Stafford shit at the end to make it a much better game.
But Seattle was in control of that game.
Yeah, they were.
That game go totally different than special teams play never happened.
And they ain't in control of shit.
But I'm not here to do that.
I think that's different from a taunting penalty.
Seattle won.
Seattle took it.
They observed it.
They earned it.
Couldn't be happier for Sam Darnel.
Dexter Lawrence.
Three 503 touchdowns.
He proved this shit.
JSN, like they, they, they did it.
They did it.
I have a list of people that should be sick over that.
I have a list of people that should be.
The entire Jets family.
He always go back in time and be like, you stupid motherfuckers.
The entire Viking status.
What pick was he?
Right after Rob Bade said, Joy, what did he say?
Pay.
And pain.
Pump it up, pump it up.
Hey.
Oh, man.
It's both sides.
Naturally the Jets.
Yeah.
Naturally the Jets.
Of course.
the Vikings.
Yeah.
That was a...
Even more so.
Even more so.
D.K. McCaff.
Pete Carroll.
Pete Carroll.
Your list is like my list.
Tyler Lockett.
Yeah.
Tyler Lockett should be sick.
Seahawks go to Super Bowl back to back.
Right after that comes Tyler Lockett.
Tyler Lockett is no longer the team.
No, plays 10 years, leave the team, and they go back to the Super Bowl.
Talk about shit out of luck.
Yeah, so all of those people should be sick.
Congratulations to the Seahawks.
Indeed.
You did it.
Listen, man, staff, it is him, y'all.
He beats the ball to fuck out.
Matt Stafford is him.
He's a monster.
I think he'll be in the Hall of Fame.
You think he will be in the Hall of Fame?
For sure.
Well, they were trying to soup this up, like it's mattered, this win to his Hall of Fame.
I think he'll be in the All of Fame no matter what.
And at 39 years old, y'all are going to have to continue.
continue to deal with him.
If that team stays together,
Devante Adams come back,
Puka,
yeah,
you have to deal with him.
That Patriot's Denver gang.
That was a fucking ugly game.
Yeah,
it was.
That was ugly.
And you want to talk about
some dumb shit
that going for,
I mean,
I get it.
If you get the Tud
in that type of conditions,
that is game over
in the second quarter.
But when that game
ends at 10-7,
you are smacking yourself
in the face.
The only thing I didn't like,
I don't even,
I'm not mad at them going for it.
I'm mad at the stupid-ass
play that they called on the fourth and one.
Okay.
That was the problem for me.
Yo, dog, we down here, our defense is kicking ass.
Even if we don't get it, they damn near in the end zone.
I'll deal with that.
You do a rollout bullet.
Run the ball, bro.
Run the ball.
Take the points.
Yeah, I take the points.
Take the points.
I'm not mad to take the points neither.
And I agree with you.
The call could have been better.
I heard that he was wrestling on the sideline with it wasn't run play.
Then he changed it to a pass play.
But you up there with your backup quarterback.
True.
You up there with your backup.
It's not Bo Nicks.
Yeah.
Your defense is the heart and soul of the team.
Ride them motherfuckers to the wheels fall off.
Take the points.
Take the points.
And nobody ever thinks that the weather is going to do that drastic of a shift.
I looked at...
The coach should be thinking it.
Yeah.
Someone should be...
We're podcasters and we looked at the forecast.
Bro, it went from sunny to blizzard out that bitch in a matter of minutes.
Yeah.
It was a blizzard.
It was like...
It was crazy.
The first player is after halftime.
Six minutes left in the third quarter.
Then about the time they got to that fourth,
that shit was crazy.
That shit was crazy.
That shit was different.
Yeah, and the one person that maybe should have thought of that.
Was the coach staff?
Absolutely.
Coach of staff.
Absolutely.
Happy for New England, man.
Happy for New England.
Way to go Drake May, second year, yada, yada, yada.
So now for Cowboys fans, we get to say Drake May was born.
And we have since we go.
Drake May learned to walk.
walk and talk.
I do you go walk all the way through it.
Drake May finished school.
And made a Super Bowl as an adult.
Since the last time, the Cowboys have made the championship.
I love that little stats.
I don't know where this was going.
Okay.
You know, did you see the graph they put up where it got all the last time, all the teams in the NFC made the championship game?
And it seemed like 20, right here, right here, then the line go all the way.
down here and it's the Cowboys.
It should look great.
That is funny.
Listen, New England
go to Party City,
grab your confetti,
your Doritos.
I'm a big fan of cheese noodles.
Decorate the place.
Go all out.
You got two weeks
to really be proud.
Man, I'm excited we get to see Cardi B.
Yeah, sure.
Let's go Cardi.
and then the game is going to come.
Yeah, yeah.
I expect this to be.
Don't do that, yo.
I'm just telling you what I expect.
Seattle tough, but 37, 21.
Patriots?
49.
Seattle.
Oh, Seattle.
49, 16.
Yeah, I'm in that boat.
Wait, do all you all have Seattle winning?
Yes.
Okay, okay.
Yes.
I got it being with a quest.
No, I don't have them winning.
I got it be in.
got it been over early.
Yeah,
it's going to be like
when Payton Manon went up there
and they blew him out by 40 by half time.
Oh my God,
that's the bad Super Bowl.
I lost so much money.
I got it.
I got the backup quarterback
in victory formation
taking the knee
to close this game out.
Damn.
Okay.
Nah,
I'm not going to do that.
I don't have to.
I don't have to beat their ass.
But Sam Darnel is going to take that
last step.
You got Patriots winning?
Or you just got a closer game?
I got Seattle winning the game,
but I think the game is going to be
much, much closer.
I think that niggas is disrespecting that New England defense.
That defense ain't chump.
Yeah, they're good.
And I think Drake May is tough, bro.
I think that.
Hope he is.
He's going to find out.
Yeah, he's going to need to be.
Yeah.
Two tuds.
They're going to win about two tuds.
This is going to be a ass whoop.
Anybody having a Super Bowl?
All right, now that I'm listening is I changed my score.
63 to seven.
A little bull boat.
They'll get a couple of feet.
Goal.
Nine.
Nine.
Nine.
Nine.
Nine.
Sixty three to nine.
Sorry, New England.
That ain't a bad prospect, but.
New England kicker?
Oh, yeah.
That ain't bad.
Yeah, he's going to have some work today.
Yeah.
New England's going to be the kicker.
He's going to be.
He's going to be doing some kicking.
Hey, but y'all got two weeks to have fun, man.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Mike Vrable.
The Vrabs?
Come on now.
And I think it comes down to.
He is great coach.
He is great.
I think it comes down to coaches games.
First coach to ever win a title as a player and make it to the dance as a coach with the same organization.
What a stat.
Nifty stat.
That's a fancy little stat.
Listen, man, it's going to be a good.
Tennessee should never threw him away like they did.
That was, that was dumb.
I'll be at one of your house for the Super Bowl.
Is it true that Bad Bunny said he was doing half the show in like a dress or something?
I don't think so.
That's been going around.
I heard the rumor, but I ain't heard it confirmed.
That's true.
That's all I want to see is the Bad Bunny show.
I think my wife is putting the bad bunny bowl or something on the flyer.
Loaded.
The bad bunny bowl.
So it's not that, but it's whatever the fuck she's called.
It's the Benito Bowl, maybe, I think.
That might be right.
That confirms my theory.
When I get the Parks and Rim flyers, that rim is totally in charge of a flyer.
Oh, for sure.
Oh, you think I'm going to do that shit?
Come on.
Parks ain't doing that.
If I text one line.
Yo, pull up.
Tom, pull up.
But if I got a flyer and Bad Bunny was on it, then I maybe would think that you put that on there.
That should do.
That is.
That's her do, too.
Oh, my God.
I get it part.
But we're having a party.
What's the name of his?
Hive?
I don't know.
A high.
Them.
Yeah.
I'm not having a Super Bowl party, but some people I love will gather to watch.
Yeah, same.
Same.
That's how I would describe it.
Party, I don't want it.
Nah, that's given the wrong impression.
That mean, y'all think that you got a plus two, plus three.
I mean, I got to see people.
I don't want to see it.
That's what I did last year.
And it ended up with like 50, 60 people in my house.
But I think I will order some food.
Got you.
Not cooking a lot.
Oh, no.
I'm putting my girl in the motherfucker.
It would be crazy.
I ain't cooking nothing.
We put on chicks up in there.
Yo, get to chop.
And hurry up.
Get to it.
And come on, start early.
Because you know you take your time.
That food is going to be four hours late, man.
Anytime she tell me I'm going to eat,
I just got to have four hours to it.
Hey, me, none of my five.
I know, girl.
I know, Will.
He's sitting there starving.
You ain't eat all day.
Ooh, saving this appetite.
Yeah, we'll have a little watch party, man.
Something like...
Nice.
My stupid ass will have the watch party
and want to hear the commentators.
Yeah, no, that's not going to happen.
Oh, no, here go for any one.
My girl going to hit me and say,
oh, man, we got invited to somebody's kid birthday party.
And I'm like, oh, when is it?
February 8th.
Check this out, ma'all.
Y'all go.
February 8th is Super Bowl Sunday.
I don't care.
how close I am in them, I'm not going.
She said you can watch it on your gamer screen.
No, no, I would be at a Super Bowl kickback.
Oh, all right, cool.
Yeah, I told her straight up.
Hey, foot down.
I'm not going.
I don't blame you.
Yeah, fuck that.
I wouldn't do it.
Super Bowl?
Yeah, no.
Foot down.
Saturday was fun.
Sunday, no.
Sometimes you got to do that.
Save those.
True indeed.
True indeed.
Giving them the long menu, too.
When you send your girl in the kitchen to cook?
I think so about
What you want?
Oh,
what's in your ass?
Right.
Chicken
Veal.
Yeah.
Duc.
Fucking veal.
I'm naming shit.
I don't even eat.
Just to see if she can chef it up.
How are you going to season this?
That's fine.
Oh, shit.
Oh, that's funny.
You know, I thought about two since why I don't need to be snowed in the house.
I thought about all the porch in my mom.
me grown up
that we don't eat no more.
Like,
nobody eat her
just a pork chop.
Yeah, what happened to that?
People still eat pork chops.
Where are it?
A wonderbird.
Where are there?
Nickers eat that,
Joe.
Where?
I don't know because I don't...
I don't eat pork chop.
I see one of them South niggas
chefing some shit
that's about that fried
our man and that's in the yard
with the big...
Yeah, it's fried pork chops.
And I looked at this shit.
I was like, it looked good,
but I ain't seen that since I was.
That was seven.
Steak him.
Yo, there's another one.
I ain't seen a steak.
Do they still make those?
Never done that I had to have a meatloaf in at least two decades until.
Yeah, I ain't going to hold.
Keto.
I was the first one I had was over day.
Yo, yeah, yeah.
Yo, yeah.
We had meatloaf Friday.
What?
Meatloaf is another one of those foods.
How was that?
Oh, no, it was fire.
It's delicious.
But I like meatloaf.
So I request that like every year.
But that is another one of those foods that's on the liver.
All right.
Remember liver?
No.
I never had.
No, but my mom used to try and make me sit at the table and eat that shit.
Back when you thought the fucking our governing body was important.
I say it all the time when Homeboy, when Michael Dukakis was running against who?
They made all of us sit around the table.
Watch?
Come on.
Ducaucas!
Who would the caucus running again?
That was 88, right?
George H.
No, my family made us as a kid.
Imagine sitting there with some liver and lima beans.
Watching Michael Dukakis.
Hell no.
Who would have thought that the president would fucking start of killing Americans?
And sending out the white girl noam to say, oh, that's not what you think.
That is the worst usage of it's not what you think.
No, that's correct.
No, dog, they got a compilation of her line, bro.
It's bad.
And you'll still be, too.
Nah.
Her face don't move.
You had to think about it.
I said, no, her face don't move.
Well, she got nice to be.
Is that a requirement to beat?
They face this he got to move.
Yeah, we don't.
It's been such a good day, man.
It wasn't going to get nasty.
How about those pork chops?
Word, word, word, work.
Pork chops.
Oh, man.
None of that absolutely needs our attention, right?
Is you mean banquet?
Did I?
Tyson's and banquet.
I don't know what that is
TV dinner
Oh, yeah
Banquet, duh
That was for rich people
When I was growing up
You crazy
My asswood
A TV dinner
Almost got my asswop
Biggwhip
No
I won't
Give me one of those kid cuisines
When they had to look
Don't do that
No, I think
It was on
You guys some joints on cell
Little Salisbury
Steak chumpy
Yeah
It's in there
You ain't steak them too, right?
Did I?
My steak-m game is fire.
Do they still make those?
Yeah, they still make those.
Yeah, yeah, nigga.
Yeah, nigga.
This shit's high, nigga's with spoiled, niggas.
I love steakums.
These shit's for spoiled, niggas.
Don't fuck around.
Get some cheese, too.
Put this cheese in the...
What, niggas?
Stake em to eggs.
I can't believe y'allel is jacking steaklems.
That's funny.
I can't believe y'all jake em.
You ain't eat steakums?
Nah.
What?
What?
I was younger.
When I was younger.
When I forgot.
Not nothing.
You eat a steak of them right now?
He wasn't outside.
I don't eat beef, but.
Who?
You?
You're fucking steak them up if I was hungry, yeah.
Steggum's delicious.
Shit, it was rocking.
In Philly, like, if you could afford a cheese steak,
you could just take them,
you get a whole house of cheese sticks for like $3, $4.
That's what?
Philly needs something new to rep so bad.
If I hear about a cheese steak.
Don't, they'd be happy when the Eagles win?
Because that's the only thing you got in cheese sticks.
Got it.
But them in the cheese sticks, like,
y'all leading tourists down the wrong past.
Because now you go over there, that shit is like Atlantic City for y'all.
That shit is like a ghost town all on the North cheese sticks.
Those shit look like some poor tourist.
And there's so many guns out there.
You might leave as Swiss cheese.
White people throw, oh, got to go to Gus's.
You better get out of there.
Frank.
Yeah, for sure.
That cheese sticks here.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Anyway, I have had good cheese sticks over there.
I'm just to be rocking.
That's the thing about being snowed in with your kids.
That's the thing about being snowed in with your kids.
like he ain't on Zettbaum
so he
hungry and shit
he keep on to eat
hell don't
what's wrong with you
don't
we're like chilling in bed
like damn
I didn't say
seven hours ago
yeah
he old enough
to
he
the tap
yo
yo
we gonna eat
oh shit
we do gotta eat
well
I don't
you do
hey he was in the mood
boy
Hey, thing I went in that kitchen and chefed up and brought back.
He ain't wanted it up.
I said pancakes.
It ain't a pancake in there, nigga.
Oh, shit.
Y'all, that's funny, sir.
Ordered some pancakes, ooh-bees.
That's what came five hours later.
And he didn't sleep the whole time.
Lexer, hey, it's here.
He's here.
He annoyed me so much by the time he said,
what's for dinner?
Nigger, pancakes.
You getting breakfast for dinner, God damn it.
Oh, man.
Stay safe, stay warm out there, man.
It's going to be a degree.
It's going to be a degree.
A degree.
A single degree.
That shit ain't no joke.
Y'all be careful, man.
Stay warm.
If you ain't got no heat, head to Home Depot, get you a little space heater, man.
We work.
What's in a name?
Get that vibe.
We warm.
We warm.
That's your work.
It's lit.
You're slick.
You're slick.
You're slick.
You know,
Got the wave.
Oh, man.
Y'all hold it down out there.
Listen, man.
And it's lit.
And it's lit.
And it's lit.
Like my walk.
Walk.
Get box.
Who walks on a few weeks.
Double-use.
We the niggas.
Winning in the city.
Went in the bag on the bad bitch.
Listen, man.
We hope you all enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoy delivering it.
That little motherfucker right there.
That's what I'm telling you.
That's the one.
That little motherfucker is the robocop of Space Heater.
Yeah.
That little motherfucker get busy.
And yo, you're right.
That's exclusive to Home Depot.
And I can tell.
When I used to have the motherfuckers who got a job site,
that little motherfucker get busy.
Yeah, no, it ain't no joke.
You ain't lying.
Hopefully y'all enjoyed this broadcast
as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there until the next time.
We bid you a do farewell.
Adio, Sariva, Durchy,
Asta, Arvois.
So long, goodbye.
A simple head now will suffice.
Remember life is a series of moments and moments past.
Hey.
So let's make this moment last as if it's all we have.
And lastly, you don't know about this, man.
You'll get robbed if you come in the spot when this is on.
You can't come out with this on.
You can't come out with this zone.
You can't come out with you soon.
I'm gonna come in the spot with you soon.
You talk your jury in when it's on?
Huh?
You talk your jury in when it's on?
No, my jury is home in the safe.
Oh, okay.
Like, appreciate it.
How about your?
See this goofy shit you do?
You went from space heaters to,
yo, my jewelry is home in the safe.
No, he-appreciated.
No, he asked me.
I wouldn't have brought it up.
No, you said flip.
Where you're there, though?
With my chair.
Your jewelry.
I wear my own when I'm out.
Where you're rolling?
See, my Apple watch.
You're going to get it back?
I'm trying to get it back for him now.
Oh, shit.
Is it going?
I'm trying to.
I ain't got no, bro.
What are you talking about?
You're right.
You're gonna get it back, though.
I would love to get away.
They play.
They play with Freeze.
They weren't playing.
Is anybody doing anything interesting this week?
No, nigga.
Just staying warm, staying in the house.
I got my baby birthday party.
That's it.
Hey!
Happy birthday.
Free love it.
I like that, Freeze.
And I'll report back how it goes.
This is the first time me and her mom
are doing a birthday party together
instead of us having our own separate parties.
Oh, nice.
Fuck you.
What day, free, Saturday?
We'll get it.
We'll get it. We'll go through other means then.
You probably wasn't understanding, Corey.
We could get it from you or we could just.
Easy way.
Come on, man, because I got some transformers.
I'm bringing it over here.
What?
Yeah, I ain't get my kid on them transforming.
I mean, I got to put them together.
That's what I?
No, somebody else getting some.
It's just together with you.
No.
Put the transform.
When my girl comes, she'll do that shit.
She's tough.
She's tough.
She's tough.
She's crazy.
Yeah, y'all hold it down, man.
We love y'all.
Till next time, please be safe.
Head on a swivel.
Level one, two, or three.
You decide, depending on your tough level.
And shout, Chef G. I've been in a real Chef G.
G type of a chef.
Shal the chef.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, Joe, bye.
No for daddy.
JVP, J.B.
Why I went to be without the JVP.
You've never heard of Joe, bud?
