The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 900 | "A Whole Tray of Ice"
Episode Date: February 4, 2026The JBP hits 900 episodes as its latest dives into a recap of the 2026 Grammys (24:55) with the crew sharing their thoughts on the speeches and performances (44:25). Shakur Steveson beats Teofimo Lo...pez Jr. to become a four-division champion (1:21:56), Ice and Joe discuss Plies vs. Trick Daddy (1:36:48) before turning to a recap of Mike Will Made-It vs. Hit-Boy (1:44:30). T-Rex discusses his business dealings with URL (1:59:40), Lil Wayne's tweet about not being included in this year's Grammys (2:13:40), the room has a debate over a woman not taking a man's last name in marriage (2:34:34), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden
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God damn it.
The first three minutes always tell you.
No jump, no jump.
No job.
I've got already seen it.
A mic check, man.
Uh-huh.
Happy to be here.
Uh-huh.
That was going on out there.
Yo, sign up to the Patreon.
Peace, salute.
Shout to the Patroni.
Shout to the hate listeners.
Shout to the ladies.
Single and involved.
Shout to the happy couple.
Shout to the miserable couples.
Shout to the musicians.
Shout out to those of you trying to be musicians that are trash.
Shout out to who else.
The kids, the cheering out there.
Shout to y'all.
We believe the children are the...
Shout to the teachers.
Shout to the nurses.
Y'all been striking longer than I thought.
Did they end that yet?
I ain't seen the people about you.
Y'all don't know.
Y'all have no idea.
I thought...
Niggers with sick family members is fucked up.
They favorite nurses.
He's out for months.
For out of state nurses.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Eleven a week.
I wish I would be in the hospital bed and then.
I didn't know that issue.
A couple of my nurses is all you.
Talk about.
A couple of them.
A couple of my nurses.
You got nurses?
Yeah, I got a bunch of nurse friends.
11 a week.
They're paying them.
All right, that's what that.
Soler, you got the out of town that's coming in
and the ones that's in town.
You got both sides coming.
You're killing the game, boy.
He said a couple of my nurses.
Imani, is that you?
Oh, shit.
These niggas.
He's crazy, bro.
This is a nigga crazy.
What up, boy?
Talk, niggins.
Started directly on bullshit, I see.
Okay.
I told you you could tell right away.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
I'm in a good move.
Yeah, I'm in a great move.
I'm staying silent.
All right, listen.
First and last time, listeners, check this out.
When the cast gets on bullshit, I do intend to stay silent.
That's one.
This new?
No, sometimes I try to stay silent sometimes.
If it's going to where he won.
Oh, okay, God.
Some of them are prepared to stand on ledges that I'm not sure that I am.
Right?
That's one.
Two, if you're new here, I'm not well in the head.
The way that my brain operates, the way that I observe, you may hear some things that no one else in the world thinks,
but me.
And you may hear that a lot
during our Grammy
conversation.
I'm not trying to get
any of y'all
to think what I'm thinking.
I'm just telling you
what I think
about some shit.
That's the end.
I mean, I just know
I was watching
and writing notes
that nobody in the world
got you.
Where's my phone?
Like my first note
is about you.
actually. Oh, yeah?
Yeah, look.
Parks should be in Rufus Dussol.
I don't know what that is, but, okay.
Because I was watching the pre-show,
and they got all these groups that I don't know who the fuck it is.
Here they come.
They pull up three or four white boys
and black leather biker mock neck jackets.
I'm like, who is this?
And they say Rufus DeSoe.
I'm like, oh, okay, that's like some white boy band De La
La Soe.
And I'm like, oh, shit, this is Park's group.
I could be a Rupert.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
Rufus, if y'all hire it, give me a show.
Oh, no, this is you right here, Park.
That's what I'm saying.
You're an idiot.
Parks is definitely in Rufus DeSoeucus.
But nobody else watching the Grammys was thinking that, but me.
That's not cross by a plate.
Another one.
And then I'm shutting up and we can start.
These niggas get bitches.
They're killing them out here.
They got Europe once, man.
They got Europe once, man.
Rufus.
Oh, man.
man
what the fuck was I saying?
The other one.
You got the other one.
Oh, one more
and then I'm tossing it
to my trusted panel of friends.
During the pre-show,
I saw a commercial
for avocado from Mexico.
I saw that one.
They played that a couple times.
I had a worst commercial, though.
Way old up now
because some of the audience
is confused still.
Me too.
Listen,
I've never seen a commercial
for
any avocado.
They had a couple of the Super Bowl.
9-1, let alone
an avocado from Mexico.
From Mexico.
And every commercial after that
was starring
a Mexican.
I don't get fuck if it was Geico.
Whatever, Victoria's Secret.
A Mexican came to that screen.
I was like, you know what?
The Geico had a hat on.
I said, I'm the only one in the world
that's enjoying the pre-show
commercials like this.
Nah, the one that fucked me up
as a 2000s
music aficionado fan.
I don't know who Claire.
Jazzy, Faye or Sierra,
whoever approved
1-2 prep is fucking
crazy.
Oh, shit.
No.
I was crying.
They did 1-2 prep.
That's crazy.
That was absolutely
crazy.
Clearing that shit.
But all of those got one of the songs and they flew in a
Once you prep is fucking nuts.
No, this is absolutely nuts what's going on.
Anyway, I'm happy to see everybody.
Happy to see everybody.
All right, this tradition.
Every year round is time.
You know what time it is.
Some of y'all been here for long enough.
Hey, Dr. Jay, so I got the 76 floor to join.
So you say when.
Flex, what up, boy?
Say when.
Inspired by boss, I got my chari.
Everybody took shots in my body up.
I'm tired.
Fill me up, break me down and fill me up again.
They like hope.
You need your back to kill your ass again.
The pole got blow, though he's no big in pop,
but he's close.
I'm posing when they got me fighting.
They're gone good night you with.
That's only half if they like you.
They ain't even a half what they might.
Do don't believe me ask Michael see Martin see Malcolm you see Biggie see poxy success in its outcome
See Jesus see Judas see Ccesar see Brudence see successes like suicide
Suicide if you succeed to be crucified
Meadia meddle you settle every step you take neighbor money
Get old so it's tough being Bobby Brown to be Bobby then you gotta be Bobby now
Now the question is is to have had
Listen, man, so happy y'all could be here.
Man.
That's Jay-Z.
Uh-huh.
Everybody want to be the king, the shots rain, you're laying in the balcony with holes in your dream.
When you're mouth from next to out, get distracted by screens.
Everybody can channel my chains.
Woo!
Woo!
Woo!
Oh, let's go.
Congratulations.
Congrats to the clips.
Orange, what out.
The Wichies and Wicks.
This is good.
Yeah, congratulations skills, man.
For sure.
V.A. on a streak this weekend.
Turn it up.
Turn it up. It's how said Virginia, nigger. Wake it up out there.
I'm from the spirit of repossession. Too much enamel covers your necklace.
I buy bitches, you buy infections. You buy watches. I buy collections.
Misery's fuel and your aggression. Jealousies turned into obsession.
Reality TV is mud wrestling. Some sign checks I know better than.
Beware of my name that there's delegate. You know I know where you're delicate.
Crutch you the pieces I hum a breath
Y'all think Chad watched the Grammys
That's a good question
You think Jim Joseph?
Yeah I think Jim did
Escape relevance
We all in a room
But he's the elephant
Big Jersey, big jersey
Whole New York City
Philly what up, put up, put up there!
I know by now you get the message
Hey
Who said nigs you must be sick
All you talk about is just getting
Everybody traveling right to do.
Everybody get ready for Super Bowl.
This system with chains and wits.
It don't take much to put two and two.
Your lucky streak is now losing you.
Money's dried up like a cuticle.
You're gasping for air now.
It's beautiful.
John's not enough.
Hey.
Come on, man.
West Ghost, what up?
Congratulations.
Happy Black History Mom.
Turn his TV off.
Turn his TV off.
Hey!
Turn his TV off, turn his TV off, turns TV off.
Wait a minute!
Ain't no other king in this rap theme, they're siblings.
Nothing but my cheering.
One shot, they disappear in.
I'm in a city with a flag be getting thrown like it was past interference, padlock around the building.
Cracks pulling up in a mark truck just to play freeze tag with a bone to pick like it was sea bath.
So when I made it out, I made about 50K from a show,
trying to show niggas the ropes before they hump for folks.
I'm prophetic.
They only talk about it, I get it.
Only good for saving face, seen cosmetics.
How many hands I gotta take the level.
My aesthetics, hurry up and get your muscle up.
We up to ply metric.
Nicarana by the Luxemesa.
Whole PG legs, sound wave, congrats.
Wait, what on?
You're full of deceit.
Let these cowards tell it.
Walk in New Orleans with the etiquette of LA.
Breathe.
Why didn't bring this one?
Uh.
Oh, brave.
Ah.
Turn the TV off, turn it.
Hey!
Turn the TV off.
Turn TV off.
We got a great show now on that we all today.
Crazy, scary, scared,
and spoken.
There are crazy and scared.
Crazy scary
Scary scary
Stupid and nervous
No, Joe button
Keep this applause going for the greatest show
in the world wide way
And you can tell the world I sing
Come on man, let me get these drops out the way
For the best crew on earth
I'm so happy y'all could be here with us today
Shout out to everybody traveling
Everybody not traveling
It's marked by a hill, pussy, pussy, pussy.
And flip, flip, flip.
Everybody that just been on some in the house shit
where it's nice and toasty.
What?
Keeping it warm, you know what?
Come on, man.
Shout to the New Yorkers.
Your car is stuck, been there for a week.
Shout out to the old school niggas out there
with the shovels getting money, digging out cars
charging about a buck, buck, buck 50.
Shout to people just park on the snowbank.
Fuck it.
I see a couple cars like in a full,
fucking angle.
Damn, man.
That's horrible.
But, you know what I mean?
Big Jersey whenever I'm in the building.
Shout to anybody with fucking garages,
driveways.
Fuck y'all.
Somewhere indoors where you can put your vehicle.
Yeah, I mean?
It's nice.
It's nice.
It's nice.
It's nice.
Hop skipping the jump.
It's right there.
Three minutes away, man.
Three minutes away.
Shots as Uber drivers.
I know y'all are up, up, up.
Kill them.
I kill him.
Up.
I told you my shit was $90.
damn back the other day.
You didn't tell me.
We don't talk.
I was, I was talking.
I said it when I came up here.
Your Uber was what?
$90 each way.
Each way.
Oh, light.
What Uber did you get?
Uber black?
Was light.
Which Uber was it?
X-L.
Regular.
Yeah.
I'm not.
Nah, XL ate regular?
Yeah, you lying on Uber.
It wasn't.
It was.
It was cheaper.
Actually, it was cheaper.
The regular cost.
You didn't get Uber Xcel.
It was.
It was all right, though.
You hate it.
It's cool.
You got that good sienna?
I don't know what it was.
It was.
It was $90.
I would say it in the Civic.
I don't give a talk.
I don't you.
I don't do it.
I don't do it.
I don't want to talk.
But other than that, I'm good.
Share Uber.
That niggas get too much money to do Shared Uber.
Yeah, I'm going to do.
Yeah.
I'm good.
Yeah.
If one of y'all do a shared Uber, you're fine.
No, I'm with you.
I'm with you.
No, seriously.
We got to put boundaries.
I'm a block you enough.
Our friendship dynamic changes if you're doing the shared Uber.
I'm not going to.
Yeah.
We got to put boundaries on what's a loud one, what's not.
in friendships. Some of y'all already teetered
that line with me. But a shared
Uber. Yeah, no,
for sure. Listen, man,
greatest show on turf, greatest cast in the world
what episode is this? 9-500.
Come on, you're waking up. Nigel.
Nick, I know, I know you're tired. Wake it up,
nigga. I came in a hype you want to
fucking do all that other shit, nigga. It's 900,
you made it, nigga. It was fine.
It took fire.
Nine hundred.
We didn't, 900.
Waked it up.
Nog hundred.
That's crazy.
Huh?
No, man, fuck that.
Make some noise.
Y'all.
Yeah, come, honey.
Let's fuck y'all.
Y'all can't come for that.
This is episode 900.
Yeah, man.
Congratulations.
Thank you and congratulations to you guys, man.
We should feel good, y'all.
Congratulations to you, boy.
Everybody that's here has been here for long enough to celebrate.
We all celebrated 800.
That's crazy.
That's fast.
Yeah.
How do you feel, champ?
The 800s was a ride.
The 800s was definitely a lot.
Patreon is fucking me up.
Now, I look to the table.
top this is for I'm just down noticing that the content number is up there that
should say something crazy yeah so like a lot of pieces you put out there you count that
too you count the number of posts I I don't count anything I just come to work
and get to it but so this is great when they asked me last night if I wanted to put
some balloons up or some shit I was like nah for some reason I felt like the Knicks
putting up the fucking in season turning like we could have a couple of
I'm conflicted with that because on one side.
What is that?
Don't compare us to the Knicks.
I just mean the recent conversation about should they raise that banner or not.
Like, so yeah, now I'll wait to a thousand.
A thousand.
You're doing something, right?
At a thousand.
What?
Hold on a thousand.
We're going to be in a balloon.
There you go.
Yeah, thousands.
That's like your 50th birthday.
You got to do it big.
Got to.
Yeah.
I don't like that as you get older, the time moves faster.
It's hell.
Yeah.
That's whack.
Yeah, and you sleep a lot
Should be hauling ass
Yeah, seriously
My motherfuckers that wake up at six
And like maximize day day
Yeah, it don't move as fast
But you know, we'd be knocked up
Nah, that time shit is starting to zoom
I ain't gonna hold you, but it's cool, man
What's the biggest lesson you learned between
800 and 900?
That's a good question.
Let me think about it.
Let me think about it.
That's a real good question.
You always got some fucking great CNN question
and they tend to talk.
Journalist.
You got to fucking think about.
Biggest lesson from 800 to 900.
I'll think about it.
I'll come back to me.
Okay.
Like the first thing that come to mind
is like I'm still killing these niggins.
Like, like,
I got to get through mad.
It's mad shit in my brain
before I get to like the lesson.
The actual lesson?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Too much shit to celebrate.
I can't fuck it.
I can't fuck with me.
That's the first thing that comes to your mind.
That's the first 10 things.
That's crazy.
Still killing out here.
God.
Damn.
Yeah, somewhere in the middle.
I'll come back for that question.
Listen, man.
Episode 900,
brought to you by,
powered by, fueled by prize picks.
Pride Spitz, gang.
Salute to prize picks.
Salute to all our partners.
Salute to everybody that's just helped along the way.
This is awesome.
Now I'm in humble mode.
There you go.
Yeah, that's quick.
After I shit on there because I get humble.
You got to get out the way first.
I get humble, man.
Get all the way.
I got big queens flip in the building.
Couldn't have got the 900 without him.
You already know what he did to the platform.
You already know what he did to the content game.
Come on, stop playing with us, man.
Next to him, come on.
They don't even know why he's still here.
They confused.
They have no idea what every week he is fighting for his life out there
as to why he even associates with us.
And that's why I fuck with this guy, man.
Couldn't have got the next.
900 this way without him, our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building next to him, man.
Ish.
All right.
Next to him.
Come on, man.
Stop playing with him.
Come on.
Stop playing with him, man.
You know that humble shit, nigga, smile.
You know they announced it it's official for the month of January.
Oh, that's right.
Ish.
Yeah.
Part of the month.
Actually, hold on.
Before we just started.
Part of the month.
You excited.
You excited.
Part of the month.
He happy.
This is your second one?
No, I ain't remember one.
This is first or second one?
Second.
My son, you are old one.
You can do this. You're an old grumpy nigga.
Let me introduce his first real quick.
What fuck is that?
You got him some cupcakes?
Our good friend, Vic Solomon, you know,
he made our NBA basketballs,
bought the trophy up here.
He said he wanted to create something
to incentivize potter of the month.
That shit looked dope.
Whatever it is.
We started with this.
He said,
Oh shit.
Oh, that's fly.
Oh, that's fly.
But I repeat.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Oh, yeah, that niggas got a play.
No, yeah, yeah, you got to play.
You got to play.
He got to play.
Get the fuck out here, nigga.
He potted.
Give that gold.
You got to wear that boy.
That shit's heavy.
You gotta wear that, boy.
I'm saying, feel it.
Oh, I feel it?
That's heavy.
That's crazy.
That's nuts.
That shit is fire.
This shit is fire.
It's fire.
Look at this.
Oh, no, this shit is up joint.
Are you crazy?
That shit fire.
So shout to Vic for that.
Shout to Vic.
Thanks, Vic.
Thank you, Bill.
Thanks, Vic.
That's funny.
You got to put that on, though.
My nigga.
I mean, that should start this month.
Right.
Nick, it should stubborn.
Yo, Mark won this shit 19 times.
That nigga.
It's shit.
He just sent it to me last month.
So he was like, and I told him I'm going to hold it.
Last one.
Until the next part of the month.
No, it was the middle of the month.
Oh, okay, okay.
So I said, I'm going to hold it until we do the next part of the month.
And then I'll, you know, present it to.
All right.
Yeah, you got to say something to the people.
Nah.
You got to say something to the people.
No.
Is there anything that you could say?
You know, you don't want me to say nothing, bro.
It's cool.
All your thoughts.
All your thoughts.
Wait, wait.
Huh?
We're good.
We go.
We go.
We don't say that.
My niggins stare at it's all wrong.
Who did you pop up a butt, nigga?
He's the exact opposite.
I want you to, please.
It's a podcast.
I'm good.
Thank you.
Yo.
That's what you all get.
That's what you all get.
I tell you one thing.
It's consistent.
He ain't, he won't do that.
He's the same thing when he win when he don't win.
All the voters out there is suck my dick.
I still don't fuck with y'all.
Hey, yo, Simon, DM me right now.
What they're saying right now,
I'm gonna go to the bathroom.
I'm gonna fuck about you.
Hey, Simon.
Hey, Simon, see me right now.
Simon still be, uh, sending you shit?
That nigga is got...
Nah, I didn't get him shit in a while.
He cursed him out.
We fucked him his vlog.
We were fucking, we've fucking our blog stuff.
Did he still have an account of stuff?
No idea.
Oh, okay.
He just stopped.
Once the niggins started.
To the fuck out of his spotter alone.
That's it.
I'm getting cursed down in the internet street.
for their bootleg Patreon plug being dead.
And I ain't got nothing to do with that.
You were saying, you was letting it rock.
You've been saying, like, I know what's happening.
I'm a fan of bootleggers.
Joe stopped.
But somebody, not the Patreon.
Come on.
He, Joe's been saying that he didn't give a fuck about that.
It's promo.
Yeah, I mean, I heard you said, but come on.
It's promo.
I ain't mad at that.
You know what Ian from.
We haven't had that number.
You know what Ian back around them.
Get this down now.
Simon.
Simon.
It's in the bullshit.
I'm finding that little ice.
He didn't be like, Simon, take that down now.
We let it rock a little bit too much.
Yeah, no, they did.
He's not playing that.
They ended them.
Yo, shout out to hate listeners, man.
I love you guys.
I love you guys.
And from this point forward, you are volunteering to be here.
This is a choice that you are making to listen to somebody that you disagree with, hate, or just don't fuck with it all.
But please, every listen counts.
This shit is zooming.
and I got big plans for 26.
And part of that includes your listenership.
All right.
What's up?
We got ice, parks, coring.
Oh, shit.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, we got big freeze.
Come on.
Elizabeth will watchdale, wherever he's from.
Wherever he's from, fine.
Elizabeth's finest.
Chatum's finest.
In the building, huh?
Checking that health app.
Hey.
Checking that.
No.
Checking the hell back.
The step that.
You stop.
Stop laughing.
He's bringing the bag.
No, no, stop laughing.
Who me?
Yeah.
Why are you mad to me?
Uh-oh.
Let's just move on.
Yeah, sit them down.
Free one.
Because you play too much.
Free what?
They got to sit down in a glass.
You do a lot of joke in a room.
Everything ain't a joke, yo.
Everything ain't a joke, yo.
Everything ain't funny, yo.
I think I asked my wife to check her step back the other day, nigga.
She said 5,000 steps.
Nigger, where did 2,000 of these came from?
I'm on your time.
You're not on.
my time. Oh, you were a different time? No, because I'll be home.
I know what's happening in the house.
So you definitely, we're on different times.
That's a shot. It is a shot. I'll be home as well.
He went home and worked on that just for you.
No, that ain't the one I worked on.
That ain't the one I worked on. Which one you worked on?
I got a clip. Oh, for me? Yeah.
Picking and choosing. Pick it and choosing.
No, because everything is in jail. You'd be bringing shit up today?
I'm choosing.
I'm choosing. Let's get it. Let me know what I can say.
Let's get it. Let's go in Fox. I'm on. I'm on. I'm
your ass now. I'm saying.
I. Parks don't check the step app at all.
Rembia and France.
You just check room store.
Rimmis and fucking
living life, man.
She's out of here. Parks just making a beat.
Elmira's fine. It's big parks in the building.
What's about it? Parks? Big Parks.
Poe is here. Corey's here.
Erickson is here. Tavon and here by remote labs.
But certainly not at least each and every one of you guys
are here. All right. Come on. Let's get right to it.
Let's get to it.
Well, is everybody feeling good?
We're good.
All right, feeling great.
Feeling great.
Let's get right to it.
Grammy time?
Grammy time.
The Grammys.
Did everybody watch?
Let's start with that.
Yes, sir, I did.
Yes, I watched the entire show.
Okay.
I ain't watched the entire show.
I've seen a lot of it, though.
Okay.
How much?
How much?
You turned it off in the middle?
No.
Tom crazy.
I was doing shit.
Oh.
More than an hour or less than an hour?
Yeah, more than an hour.
We'd be bothering you, right?
I don't know
Tell you
We just like a bother
You at 50
You outgrew this shit
Like you outgrew us
Outgrew the pot
And us
Like everything
You're changing the game
I saw the pre-game
Yeah I saw the pre-Grammy shit
Yeah I started 3 30s
And I saw the Grammy
Intro
And then I had to turn back
To the fourth quarter
The Knit game
And then when the game was over
I went back
So I missed the rookies, the new artists.
I missed that.
That was fine.
Yeah, that was fine.
It was cool.
It wasn't as good as it was last year, but it was still pretty good.
I like a couple.
I like the girl that was in like the parking garage.
Yeah, that was weird to be much fun.
Start on the back of the truck and then I could have dealt without that one.
But the British girl, Lully Young, I never had heard of her.
She had some pipe solders.
And that's the girl that won later.
Yes.
I like the Olivia Dean.
She did.
Olivia's amazing.
Yeah.
We know.
Yeah.
She's always forever.
My first time hearing, you know, I'd be out of loop.
Like, yeah, I'm not like y'all.
That's my first time seeing her.
Okay, so we're on the same page.
Alex Warren.
No, we're not on the same page because I have the album and love the album.
But I didn't know how the girl look.
She's beautiful.
I was very happy to see.
I don't see that.
Olivia Dean.
I was very happy that that's who she was.
Same.
Black girl.
I didn't look.
Mark.
She's so stupid.
Just keep you here right now.
Anyway, go ahead, for us.
I don't remember what the fuck I was saying.
Because I wasn't watching the rookies, so I have nothing to say here.
Okay.
Yeah, that was, that was cool.
It wasn't as good as the last couple of years, but that's not any fault of anybody.
Leon embodied it.
Leon and Olivia bodied it.
And the British girl, Lola Young.
Those, those three went crazy.
And the three of them won big awards.
Yeah.
Shot to Leon.
He won R&B.
Probably a year.
Yeah, and something else.
I should probably get a list.
He won two, right?
Yeah, he did win two.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
the winners. Congratulations to Leon.
For the most part, everybody that
I wanted to win
won.
Most of my votes... Before it started.
Most of my votes won. That's why I watched the pregame.
First of all, to that point, a lot
of the awards that I give a fuck about
were in the pregame, which is like
R&B album of the year, R&B Song of the Year,
Kailani won big there.
Rap, not album, but song
and rap performance, which was
Clips and Kendrick, respectively.
I'm trying to pull up the
winners list here um all right so i got the winners list um armbi performance was kalani folded
uh well deserved traditional rnb performance that's the other one that leon thomas won got
nice for vibes don't lie uh best rnb song folded yes sir uh progressive rnb album bloom by duran bernard
oh he bought his uh yeah he said uh yeah i left this chapter's director best rmb album leon thomas mud
Best Rap Performance Chains and Whips Clips
Featuring Kendrick Lamar Farrrell
Deservedly so
Best melodic rap performance was Luther
Deservedly so
I agree
Best rap song was TV Off
Off. I had Burzo sing there
But I'm not mad at TV Off one to do
I wasn't mad at anything as long as it was Clips or Kendra
Same that was kind of my
Best Rap album was G&X
Again
Not mad at it
Same same stance I think I've won it clips but
I wanted clips to win.
I love G&X.
Same.
I'm pleased either way.
As long as it was one of those two.
I hope you it could have won two and I wouldn't have been that upset.
I wanted clips to win, but as I was watching, I was like, okay.
You saw it.
It's still levels.
Yeah.
Like, hip hop had me want, wanted the clips to win.
I just felt like Kendrick, we got it.
But once you see Dochey up there presenting and just, it's like, okay.
You see Kendrick got dressed.
Yeah, he really got dressed.
So it's like, and you see that he's still there.
Yeah.
Because once he won early, I was like, okay, he wants to get the fuck out of here.
But once the show was going and he's still sitting there?
Until like, you know, you know what it was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And when I look back at the year before, it was all not like us.
So I wasn't mad.
There was no wild.
The GEDs deserved to get a lot of the accolades that it did.
And Clips got still got a win.
so I'm not tripping.
Yeah.
Same time.
Yeah.
Long as Cliffs got to win, I'm fine.
And they had a great performance as well.
We'll get, yeah, they did.
We'll get to the performances after.
Yeah.
I have thought to them both, but yeah.
But I just, if we talk about just the winners first, again, I, I,
there was no award that I was outraged by.
There was nothing where I felt somebody, I think the word snub gets used too much,
just when somebody doesn't win.
I really did not want Kendry to get,
rap album a year?
Really?
Let me put it differently.
I wanted clips to get rap album
to year.
I just thought they really
deserved it far more.
But I don't think it was a bad choice.
I just really was rooting for clips.
That's all.
I think we all in the same.
Yeah, I think we're all in the same boat.
So that's the only award
that I was just like really, really frustrated.
I'm not frustrated by, or not frustrated.
So we're not all the same
because I am not frustrated with Kendrick winning that one.
Oh, no, I wasn't frustrated.
I think I'm agreeing with you.
I think disappointed is a bad word.
I wanted.
I just, I felt like seeing them everywhere,
everything that they did,
as great as the album was.
It being a comeback album,
it seemed like all the stars were in alignment for them to win.
Yes.
And when it didn't happen,
I was just like, damn.
To comeback.
But to lose to GNX is still,
they weren't snubbed.
This is not Good Kid Mad City losing to Maclemore.
This isn't that.
This is still a great album,
one best rap album of the year.
I didn't love Billy Elish winning song of the year.
Really?
And I like her a lot.
And I like Phineas a lot.
My problem was that song came out on an album.
album in 2000.
It was in the last
Grammy cycle,
but then they released it
as like a video and a single
so it gets eligible for this.
And I just don't think
it was the best song of the year.
I think Bad Bunny should have won that one too.
There was a jig in there.
Well, Billy Eilish was
going to get one.
And I'm not mad at it.
And I love her speech,
so I'm not mad at it.
And I like them both.
I just thought that that was a weird
technicality that shouldn't be.
Yeah, but it's,
it's,
uh,
yeah,
the record,
because they pushed it as a single,
it charted the whole year.
So it was tough for them to not.
It's still a cultural, there's a phrase for it, cultural.
Currency?
Relevance?
Yeah.
Yeah, I guess that's what I'm trying to say.
Even though it was released last year.
Yeah.
Again, I also just think the Bad Bunny song was a song of the year, for me personally.
I agree.
And one album of the year, so I'm still not all the way mad.
It's fine.
What did you guys think, I know we're a little all over the place.
What did you guys think of Trevor Noah this year?
the host, his intro, the jokes.
What did you think of the Nicki Minaj name drop?
What did you think of him standing next to Kendry?
Even though that came later with the Drake shit
where Kendrick looked a little uncomfortable.
What did you think of Trevor Noah during the evening as a whole?
He did it six times in a row.
This is his last time doing it.
I think because it was his last time,
they intended for the jokes to be a little bit more edgy.
And I don't want to say cringy,
but it's like going out with a bang type shit.
Like I'm going to say the things that y'all are thinking.
that I probably wouldn't have said before,
and we can hide it under,
this is my last time doing it.
I thought he did great.
I don't think it was his best.
I was just about to say.
Six in a row is hard.
I don't think it was his best outing.
It was a little...
When he was saying next to Bieber,
Bieber looked like he was ready to swing up.
Yeah, it was a little blot of me.
Everybody that he really...
Outside, even...
I think even the Bad Bunny shit,
Bad Bunny was playing into it,
but he kind of was like...
No, they smoked it.
I like that one.
They smoked that one.
It turned out.
It turned out
But initially Bad Bunny was looking like, yo fan.
And then he just was like,
he ain't going to go away.
He just kept speaking Spanish
and it was like, oh, okay.
And I leaned into it.
But in the beginning, even that part didn't look.
Kendrick looked like.
Just for the record.
That was a setup.
That's not how that happened.
Like, I get that you saying it came off like that.
The band came out.
So it had to be ever did.
But the optics of it looked like.
Supposed to, though.
I think it was supposed to.
And I think the bad bunch.
But he has acted, so he was probably into character.
So I'm not, I thought that was actually one of the funnier.
Yeah, Trevor Noah even knowing all that shit to a T like that.
He said that shit real.
Yeah, that was impressive to me.
That was impressive to me.
That was good.
That blazer that bad bunny had on was fucking me up all.
With the shit on the back, right?
The cold shit on the back.
Oh, my God.
Absolutely.
Absolutely sickening.
Him and Kendrick's fits were fire.
The simple but fire.
Kendrick looked nice.
Kendrick was, that was absolutely sickening too.
Damn, I wish I could shout out who's style to Bad Bunny.
I'll look for it later.
But did you all see Kendrick's left hand with the boxer shit on it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Was that fashion or was that a statement?
I think he'd be traded and shit.
I look like an ace bandage or something, like that.
Nah.
It wasn't an ace band.
It was the knuckles wrapped.
No, what I'm saying, it just looked like an injury.
It didn't look like.
To me, it didn't look like an injury.
It looked like he just took a boxing glove off.
How do you have your hand wrapped like the knuckles are patted?
That's what I'm laying.
It wasn't just your hand.
With the black power picking his head.
All that shit say something.
You're saying something.
Kendrick being intentional.
That shit on his hand just seemed like it was there for a reason.
I agree.
Shea Porelli, I think, was the designer of bad bunnies.
Chef's Kiss.
Yeah, that shows.
Chef's kiss.
If I were the clips, because I thought that they look marvelous.
I love that mouille, salmon, shit.
and a lot of groups showed up
and dressed the same.
So I'm fine with that.
No way I'd have let Farrell put that same shit on
and we walk out like fucking triplets
looking like the Delphonic.
I like that shit.
I like that shit too.
Nah, no way in world.
It looked like the fucking Delphonics.
She had the pearls with the little.
No way on earth.
No way on earth do I let them do that
because y'all wasn't dressed the same on stage.
True.
Oh, that white shit he had on.
was fire.
Who had on?
Farrell.
And that's part of my point.
That white shit was fire.
So if you're going to do that,
and then he had the coat on,
on stage, he looked absolutely amazing.
Everybody did, but I'm saying,
we ain't dressed the same now.
You went and put that shit on.
Take this shit off while we're on the great car.
Are you crazy now?
You're doing it enough now.
No, it's crazy.
Farrell's so skinny that that shit just hangs the right way.
That shit just looks amazing.
So, yo, we all got the same shit on.
gonna look better in yet? Nah, fuck that.
Farrell's tiny, bro.
That shit looked amazing on.
No way on earth I would have let him walk in.
If I was a clip,
that would not have happened at all.
Yeah, he would have had to go change.
Also, Farrell, at the podium.
Stop working.
Stop doing anything else but working.
Work, man.
Because when you, when I'm 52, I give the
do this every day. I love what I do.
And if you do what you love every day,
you'll get paid for free.
Dog, I'm sick of Farrell.
For real. Something about him really just irks me.
That's what you went up there and said?
You've been talking to Chad, huh?
All this shit going on in the fucking world.
We already got you on camera in the last six, seven months saying stupid shit.
Yo, they came up with a cool little phrase
It's two words, ice out.
Or they came up with some shit if you didn't know
And you get up there with this,
Yo, do what your love.
Work harder.
Go to work.
Work harder.
Go to work.
Like, shut the fuck up, for real.
I was disappointed by a lot of the artists not saying true.
He's sickening, though.
Enough of him.
You're not wrong.
I just, given what he's prone to say,
I'd rather him not talk about nothing
than to talk about some shit
and say something crazy.
I agree.
But then get up there and say something meaningful
besides this bullshit,
generic. This just sound like it's out
the crunching munch box. You just saying
use the moment. Use the moment.
Dog, say, you are for real.
Niggas, look up to you. This is the big, the clips
is back. You up there, you put the same fucking
suit on, nigga. Say something.
And this is you getting the Global Impact
Award. Yes. This wasn't just an
album award you got. You got that way.
Yo, go to work. I love what I do.
Shout out the Trifconquest.
You make it free. Yeah, I'm sick of for real.
But anyway, sorry about that.
That was my little. I'm just, he's sickening to me now.
Like if he ain't on the MP or the Triton or some shit
Or whatever the fuck he make a beat on
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Or doing the Louis runway shit
Because this season is fly
He's just a weirdo
These niggas a fucking weirdo
He's not the greatest of speaking
But I did like the keep working thing
I did like that message
I'm damn
At the order I get the more to keep working message
Resonings with me, I get it
Like what do you want me to do
As I found
But I wish he would have said something else too
Some niggas don't feel like jeopardizing their relationships
I'm not saying that's what it is
Boy, niggas stand on the other side.
Yeah, some niggas stand on the other side.
So if you have nothing to say positive, don't say nothing at all.
That's, we, a lot of us who's going to say.
He might have said, go ice.
You know what I mean?
I agree with y'all.
I'm saying he's a weirdo.
For that.
And I'm a weirdo.
So, I mean, everybody's their own version of weird.
I don't want to be in the room, that weirdo room.
Okay.
That's another thing I thought a lot throughout the night.
Like, just looking at the room.
Honestly.
I couldn't hang with a bunch of these names.
Yo, you niggas, yo, this is a different universe.
with some of these niggas that's in this room, yo.
That's why I like the early show,
because that's usually the cool people,
like the songwriters and producers
are up there giving the speeches,
and I kind of rock with them.
I can hang out with them.
The super rich stars,
I don't want to hang out with you, most of them.
I went to the Grammys when,
whenever Pump It Up was nominated.
And I went,
and I looked a mess.
But just the experience of being there,
like some people have heard me say before,
that's not for me.
Unless you are winning
and you got a call that said,
You won, and even that is some niggas that
M probably won't ever go back to the Grammys.
If you were the cool seats at the front
with the little circle tables, that's cool.
If you were anywhere else, I'm good.
You said that shit was horrible.
You know, but by what he said,
I couldn't imagine me saying this,
but I was pleased with what Billy Elish said
and what this nigga did,
now that he's saying it like that, you know what I mean?
No, a lot of people said.
Olivia Dean, Bad Bunny, and Billy Ilish.
Colani, for sure.
A lot of people.
A lot of people.
That shit was fire.
Yeah, they used that moment.
Shout to people say, no business.
But then,
being that,
you won me with the type of award
that you won,
you were supposed to get up there
and talk about hip hop,
history, or black music,
whatever the case may be.
He got up there,
but a lot of people who want to,
yo, don't quit,
do the work,
don't quit, don't quit,
do the work.
So I guess he might have resonated that,
but being who he is,
he could have gave something a little better.
Yeah,
especially in the award
that it was, he could have gave something better.
But it's a Dr. Dre Award,
too. So it's kind of like, I mean, I like that
he shouted out with Tropical Quest and talked about the impact
of a Q-Tip in particular
on him. I thought that part was dope.
But yeah, I liked him to pivot to something
bigger than that. But that's just not who he is. So I don't
expect much from the bull, but yeah.
I'm saying that shit with the jellyfishers
on. I was thinking, I wasn't going to say it, though.
I was like,
yo, hey, I put
a disclaimer in the front of this
that should clear me.
It's your man
jelly roll on the red carpet.
what's happening. And jelly roll is my man.
People shouldn't care. Yeah, I fuck with jelly roll.
You know, I'm a dumb redneck. I haven't watched enough. I didn't
have a phone for 18 months. I've had one for
four months and don't have social media.
I hate to be the artist's static aloof, but I just, I've come so
disconnected from what's happening. And I'm just
not a, I grew up in a house
of like insane pandemonium. And like,
I didn't even know politics
were fucking real until I was in my mid-20s in jail.
Like, that's how disconnected. When you grow up in a drug
addict household. Do you think we like have
common calls about what's happening
in world politics? Like we're just
trying to find a way to survive, man.
You know? And I have a lot to say
about it, and I'm going to in the next week, and everybody's
going to hear exactly what I have to say about it
in the most loud and clear way I've ever spoken
in my life. So I look forward to it.
Thank you for bringing it up. He pulled the city, sweetie.
He fucked himself in the last three sentences.
I was rocking with him
the whole time until he said
them last three sentences.
He said, dog, like,
basically politics is not something I do, right?
And so you could get away with that.
He said, yo, how I grew up, politics wasn't a thing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And at the very end, you said, and he said, yo, I'm a dumb redneck.
I don't know nothing about politics.
But at the very end, he said, yo, I got something to say.
And I'm going to tell you all next week how I feel about, which one is it?
You don't know what's going on in the political world or you got a lot to say.
I got a lot to say.
I got a lot to say.
What's like PR written?
No, see, I took that totally different.
I had no idea.
I've been informed myself,
but I also want to make this statement,
not here.
I want to make this statement,
some people say I want to do it
on my own platform on my own terms.
So I think he's gotten some more information
and now I'm ready to speak on it,
but just not right here.
I want to gather my thoughts
so that I can't say the wrong thing,
get taken out of context,
let me do it in the way that I know how
when I'm ready to, and it will be soon.
I'm not going to keep y'all waiting forever.
I'd be next week.
So now we're going to wait for the big jelly roll,
political...
I think for people that want to hear it from them,
you're going to wait and hear whenever you hear it.
Yeah, and I think that's,
if you're not going to do it in the moment where it matters,
which is the Grammys,
then it's just Jelly Roll talking.
I don't give a fuck with Jelly Roll things outside the Great.
You know what I want my Grammys.
I get it.
I know that, I know the, the, the.
He knows his fan bases on that side.
No, no, no, no.
But I know what's going on here.
And I know the sentiment in this room overwhelmingly is leaning one way.
So I'm not going to get up there with my first Grammys
and now say some shit that's am.
tie.
That was red carpet, right?
Yes.
Because I want to say,
this is before the show.
I think that he absolutely smoked his speech.
Yeah, I like the speech too.
His speech was a one.
His speech was a nice middle line.
It was.
I'm about Jesus and you ain't got to be,
you could be from.
It's for everybody.
Jesus is for all.
I fuck with a jelly roll.
Shout to Manili.
Congratulations.
But then you know the internet going internet.
I know they found him with Christy Nome.
So they went.
from 2024.
How great of a person he is and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You politically tied.
You can't say you don't know nothing about politics.
Yeah. It's tough.
All right.
The optics is bad.
But anyway, we're back to celebrating music.
Back to celebrate music.
What else?
What else?
Performer.
Come on, let's do it.
Ice had to come to Jesus moment.
I was about to say.
Listen, you will never get no more slant out of me.
You can get there as late as you want if you want to do this.
I don't get to fuck when you get there.
I was damn there in the crib, stands.
them clapping.
That entire performance,
that might have been my favorite performance
of the whole night.
That shit was fire.
The Roberta Flack, De Angelo.
The whole shit.
That part was great.
The DeAngelo part,
I hated how they,
it was like two bars
of performance for everybody.
It was like,
it was a lot of motherfuckers.
It was a lot of motherfuckers.
Bilal went crazy.
Bilal went crazy.
Belial went crazy.
Let's slow down for a minute.
We're speaking.
Let's slow down.
Freeze.
Yes.
Tell me more about this,
because this is big.
I know.
I'm just saying like,
she went up there.
What did she do?
She sounded great.
She looked great.
Like, again, Lauren Hill, she sang the fuck out of the songs where she was singing.
It made me feel like, damn, yo, I don't even, I shouldn't be slandering you like this.
So what you come late?
If this is the show you put on.
I've seen Lauren Hill perform.
I was at Roots Picnic when she's up there doing other versions of songs.
They didn't sound the same way.
I've seen people at her shows say, yo, she's performing.
You want to have a real conversation about the speaker and Mike set up at Roots Picnic?
Let me, I'm not even talking about, I'm talking about the actual beat that she's playing.
She's not even playing to the song.
I've seen she changed the tempo.
Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
The whole song sounds different.
The reggae told version of X Factor.
Yeah, but when you've only got one album, you got to figure out
how to make this interesting from 35 years.
Not when your album is that, not when it's the number one album of all time.
No, you don't.
I get it, but I also get why she would want to change it.
I get it from other reasons too.
But anyway, I'm off that.
Janet Jackson does the same thing at her shows, like a lot of them do that.
But everybody don't have the, also have the negative track record that long hell has.
A lot of people.
people do that.
And I've been to shows with Legacy Acts where they play, like with bands,
they play it exactly like the CD and that shit is boring too.
I'm just speaking for Lauren and how I, in my stance on where it was before.
I think she did amazing at that.
And again, it made me, I was like, damn, all right, cool.
You won me over.
When you perform this well and y'all smoke that shit that way, you won me over.
So I'm cool.
And I thought, I thought every performer, for the most people,
Bodyed it.
Sounded good.
I told her.
I told her London spoke too.
Yeah.
Who did?
October London.
October London.
I saw it.
Lucky day.
Lucky spoke to.
Yeah.
I mean,
and he had Raphael Siddick up there.
You had a, from the bassist, Luther the basis.
Marcus Miller.
Marcus Miller.
Yeah.
You had a most day.
I'm sorry, I didn't hear you.
You had Marcus Miller up there.
I mean, you had some legends up there.
Yeah.
Raphael Sadeek just subtly in the background.
Just chilling.
Just getting busy.
You know what I mean?
I thought it was great shock of kind.
I was out there.
All that.
John Legend.
Another legend.
John Legend with Shaka.
I didn't love that doing.
Shaka didn't sound.
Exactly.
Their voices.
Certain voices aren't good like collaboratively or like stacking it up.
The marriage isn't.
Yeah.
Shaka look good though.
If you have too much like vibrato and character in your voice, it doesn't mesh well.
Got it.
A lot of times.
Unless you're the definitive lead and the other persons are backgrounds.
I love John Legend.
I do feel like we need to find more pianists.
He didn't even play piano.
Yeah.
It was John Bette.
Got it.
My point is this.
He ain't got to be there.
We can get somebody else's what you're saying.
He sounded good though.
He did him or something every time.
He always sound good, though.
All right, Joe, what's up, man?
Yeah, come on.
You guys are saying, man.
Yeah, you do.
Come on, go, please.
Actually, I do have something to say.
I'm on the edge, Nick.
For the people that were privileged enough to see Bilal
at Village Underground, just on a random Sunday's,
boy, were we blessed.
We blessed.
That's what I was thinking while I was watching.
Bilal's incredible.
And he showed people that maybe didn't know.
When she, I didn't know.
I forgot all about him.
When she said his name, I was like,
they couldn't have found nobody better pull us off.
He's contemporaries with me.
No, I forgot.
I forgot all about Bilal.
Yeah.
Right thing.
Like, I forgot.
When she said a nigger name, I said,
oh, he about to go crazy.
And he's a singer.
And he did.
Yeah, she about to go crazy.
He was the blue door a couple months ago embodied it.
I mean, people from all over coming to see him,
like singers.
I'm talking about just because he's so.
special.
He's him?
Yeah.
Below's different.
He's him?
And he sounded great
and he looked great.
He sounded amazing, bro.
And then when I love that they ended it with
killing me softly.
First, the version I like more than y'all do.
Clef looked amazing.
Reverta Flacks.
But then when Clef came out and they did that,
the Fuge's version, Clef killed it.
They killed.
The crowd was rocking.
That was the perfect way to end it to me.
Yeah, perfect.
I agree.
Yeah.
Perfect.
That was my favorite performance of the night.
Montal?
You're able to.
Why do you keep looking at me?
Liggin' like, why you feel about the performance, man?
How do you feel about Lawrence
performance?
How do you feel that?
I absolutely loved it.
Okay.
Everything that you're all saying, I agree.
Why y'all making my opinion now
to be something different?
Nah, because it looked like it was something different.
It just looked like it was.
No, he looking like that.
He always looked like that.
Bruh.
What is you?
You're a rat bastard.
You're looking like, you're putting your shit on me.
You too, nigger.
You know what my face is?
My face is, that's the Lauren I known since.
Lauren came out.
My face is
Lauren didn't even sound like
Lauren can sound.
Lauren can sing a hundred times better than that.
Because Lauren went to the gamma after
party and was doing X Factor
live sounding like the record.
So.
I think I've been watching that girl sing since high school.
She can get 10 times busier than that.
So when ICE was saying,
yo, if that's what she's going to do,
I'm like, ICE, to me,
that wasn't even the best Lauren.
She was hosting.
How she hosted it and facilitated it.
and all of that was a monster.
But her voice and all that,
my nigga, Lauren can sing a thousand times better than that.
And she still bodied it.
Quick sidebar.
Sister act.
Did y'all see Homeboy on, uh, did y'all see it?
Oh, happy.
Yeah, we'll see him on Tank's podcast talking about how on sister act,
he thought he had a shot with Lauren Hill, like he had a crush on her.
And then one day her boyfriend came to the set.
Her boyfriend was Omar Epps.
I knew it.
Fresh out of juice.
Yeah, I knew that.
Like fresh off juice
You gotta fuck your whole shit up
Yeah
Yeah
But they were sitting there talking about
It was hilarious
Yo
I guess yeah
That was humble the shit out of you
Yeah
What?
Fresh off juice too
That nigga Omar
He
He
That nigga was something to deal with
That nigga was something to deal with back there
I ain't gonna lie
You got us up out of there
All of us
I mean Rahim held us down a little bit
But that diger Omar
came too
I was like what
Now you're making me
Want to see if I can find it for y'all
Because it is that funny
Yeah
I believe you.
I didn't mean to derail us.
I'm coming right back in with my thoughts about
Justin Bieber's
performance.
You like Bebbs of the undies?
I fuck with Bebs.
I fuck with Bebs.
I like that.
And they won me over.
You know,
and they make Jimmy Newtown.
You know what?
You don't like that song?
Yeah.
But I just like it more now.
Because it's the boxers.
From the performance.
Oh, the boxers did it for you.
Go ahead.
Get the shit off.
Get the shit off.
You like the way the socks or sang.
He sounded good.
He sounded good.
He flew out to L.A.
Met a young Lauren Hill. We hit it off because we was the only two kids from Jersey and me her and Jennifer Love Hewitt
Were the only real high school students in the cast everybody else was older
Everybody else was grown in oh okay okay Jennifer Love Hewitt yeah Wow so we all would go to tutoring and stuff
Got the call forward in the shit
You look at a young Omar abs too much
Yeah, man
Oh my
Lauren Hill over at the Oakwood boy man I had a crush on her and you know what broke my heart her real dude came to visit one time
You know who was?
Who?
Omar Epps.
Yeah, that's sweet.
The juice niggas.
You couldn't compete, bro.
He was out of your league.
You couldn't compete.
Yeah.
Oh my, that's fake.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
There's a guy.
He's a guy.
Juice.
Oh, my God.
What could I do?
What?
You see what they're talking about the end of the movie.
Got the juice now.
Fresh off juice.
Fresh, he was the one.
You lost that bad.
Oh, I lost it.
I ain't gonna lie.
That's just.
You want, David.
He wasn't even in the fight by the day-go.
You could look at a young Omar abs to be like,
that looking savage.
Yeah, I garnered a lot of respect to him that day
and just understood like, okay, you gotta take what you want.
It's love was to do the shit by this.
La, la, la, la, la.
La, la, la.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Wasn't no happy day that day, my man.
Right.
No, no, no, no.
No, no.
You're crazy?
So Justin Bieber got on stage and his boxers and performed.
But before you even get there, I was lost.
Because they pissed me off because they kept taunting the performance like,
oh, it's going to be the one that everybody's talking about.
This is going to be the performance.
It kind of was.
It was.
It wasn't that.
It wasn't.
It wasn't that.
It was a good performance.
And a lot of people talking about it.
I'm a Justin.
I like how he sounded.
I'm a Justin Bieber fan.
Same.
I guess.
He sounded good.
Yeah, but I was lost with the boxers.
Yeah, you got up there in your boxes.
The shit looked mad, sad, and somber.
That Yukon song is not that.
type of song. You know what I'm saying? You're getting up there. You're making the beat
with your foot in your hand. That was cool. He's on his, uh, Ed Shearing shit. He sounded amazing.
I thought it was cool. Boxers aside. I was a little worried that he might pop out. You know what
me? That's what your mind was? Yeah. I was fucking, so they're like, please don't pop out, bro.
Please don't. My thing with Justin Bieber recently, or for the better part of a few years now,
Every time you see him, it looked like it's a cry for help.
Yes.
I agree.
I think you leaning into that.
And that's my point.
Like, dog, him getting up there with them boxes on, to me, sound, it looked like a, yeah, like a sympathetic plea.
It looked like he wanted to tell us something.
Yeah, I'm trouble.
I'm troubled.
I swear, that's how I felt, bro.
I'm not.
But he won't tell us.
More your side than that.
He leave it up to us to guess.
Like, they zap the joy out of this little nigga.
Yeah, bro.
Like, it's just right.
That song
You're supposed to have
Like some confidence
When you sing it
You're bagging
Bright, it's bright
A couple cute chicks
He up there in his drawers
In the dark
In the dark
Just
Come on man
What happened
Nigger
Tell us
I don't
No I thought it was
Nah
I just think he was just
Doing too much with that
He ain't been the same
Since they made him
Do them push-ups
He ain't been the same
Since they made him
Do those push-ups man
I don't know if he wanted anything
He kind of got something
That was a very good album.
I don't know where he would have won.
That was a good album, bro.
I wouldn't have been mad if you would have snuck one in the same.
And it sounded like, and you know I ain't the music guy.
And it sounded like all that shit wasn't even mixed right.
Demos, yeah.
And it still was good.
That was a good-ass album, bro.
He didn't get nominated for nothing.
Yeah, don't be taking me Parks and Ice Lingo out of here when you talk to other people, too.
I don't know what that makes.
Like, when you talk about records being mixed and all that.
Do that up here.
Don't leave and hit the hookah lounge.
You hear the mix on this?
I looked at the mixologist
To get a confirmation
I think you did good
You did good
Yeah I agree with you
Yeah that shit ain't sound
I agree with you
It felt a little bit like
Unfinished records a little bit
But I liked it a lot
That Yukon song wasn't even nominated
Yeah that's kind of crazy
That's nuts
That's kind of crazy
I was speaking of moments
To say something
And they didn't say something
Post Malone
Covering Warpigs
And no one up there saying nothing
was also kind of crazy.
The song was fucking war pigs, dog.
And rest of peace, Ozzy Osbourne.
I guess maybe in interest of not messing with the family,
the emotions of the family, you didn't want to do that?
Yeah.
Because they were emotional.
They were.
They were.
Deservily so.
Rest and peace, Ozzy Osie Osbourne.
I don't know if we even said that in the pod.
Hopefully we did.
We did.
A legend.
But that was a great performance.
They bodied it.
They bodied.
I just thought it was a moment where you could have said something.
at Bruno Marr's performance.
Both of him were ass.
He performed twice.
He did the opening song
with the K-pop girl.
That was ass?
I didn't like it.
I didn't like anything he did.
I didn't even like his shots
to him in the audience,
the crowd shot.
He looked a little,
he looked like,
he looked a little,
like that book of sugar.
Oh, wow, wow.
He was mad as far.
I look.
I don't know what he was,
but I tell you how he looked.
The clip was there.
What was you talking about?
Was he sitting next to?
That's why he was mad.
Put me there.
I need to be at that table.
Oh, man.
That's funny.
That niggum, my was doing this, you saw?
What's that, what's that fool?
What the dicking name, friend?
I know what you're talking about it.
What do you guys think of Bruno Mars?
I think it good, but we didn't like it.
I love Bruno.
Blackluster performances, he looked like he may not have been fully invested in the moment.
I like the first performance.
And it looked like, he looked like.
he was performing for the niggas that's invested in him
standing on the side of the stage.
Yo, that's what he looked like.
I want to get this shit over with.
Like that kid in the meme to be dancing.
The motherfuckers was right there.
Niggins said, yo, you getting paid?
Wait, we getting paid?
It looked like he was nervous.
They was putting a camera on him.
He was like,
you know, we're going to be watching with the Grammys,
no, we there.
We are plus ones.
All of us.
It looked like that.
He another one.
I love him and I fuck with him.
But how many times I'm supposed to see him?
with the 70s out there with the band.
How many times do I have to look at it?
So we had that talk when the record came out
and y'all was kind of saying that
I did say that when I saw the second performance.
It's like, all right, I'm tired of this look now.
You don't got to do this.
That record isn't even like so explicitly 70s.
Yeah, it didn't call for that.
That's what made it weird.
It did.
Because you could have vibed out to this song.
You got that little bop.
You could have.
And you went right to the 70s look again.
And I was like, they were right.
That's what I said.
To myself, I'm like, yeah, the guys was right.
He don't want to show them niggas he buying new shit.
Hey, what got to say shit?
Hey, Rocco, this is my old shit.
Yeah, Rocco.
I got the old bag.
I got the old bag.
I don't know.
I ain't paid him.
They're doing this on a stream.
They did look like they was back there doing it on the strings.
They were on the stream.
They were on the stream.
They did some shibit.
That was a mess.
And I fuck with Bruno, but I'm telling you what?
You get this shit real.
You really, I like this.
Album comes out Friday too.
Oh, that's right.
Bruno's right.
I believe so.
It's not right.
We said like next month, like a month ago.
I just, the time he moved.
Well, he's going to be fine.
So, I mean, I mean, not even act like Bruno.
He's Bruno.
He's crazy.
He's going to be fine.
The tour is selling out.
Oh, I mean, correct.
27th.
I thought it was...
Bruno could care less about Cole.
I'm just saying numbers-wise for the number one.
Who get the number one?
That's a conversation.
Fight.
You think that's a conversation?
Yes.
Yes, I don't.
Yes, I do.
Shee.
I absolutely think it's a conversation, freeze.
I think I'm on your side.
Oh, we're on the same time.
I'm just saying...
I don't think...
Love you call.
It's different, bro.
Okay.
I think Jake Cole has a short shot at a number one.
I don't think anybody's going to drop with him.
And not for nothing to double-diff.
put him in that.
I'm with y'all, but being a double disc,
it might push him a little bit closer.
Yeah, you said, anybody.
Right now, outside of your Adele, Taylor, outside of them.
Bruno's in that sphere.
No, he not.
He also not in the Jay Cole's fear.
Do you know what that song?
I don't know about Adele, but I know.
You know what that APT song did?
You know what the APT song did?
What did it do?
A bazillion, quizzleon.
You know what the APT song is?
Yeah, of course.
That's the record that they started.
Yes.
They started to show it.
That song is massive.
It is.
It is. Like different, massive.
Yeah.
So, no disrespect to cold.
I love it cold.
Yeah, it's different, bro.
However.
Last album, 24-carat magic, first week sells was 231,000.
Yeah.
You telling me, that ain't cold number?
You're telling me Cole can't do 230?
That'll change a lot.
I didn't say he can't do 231, yep.
So my point is...
What a cold debut?
Yeah, fight back for years.
So my point is...
It sold over 6.5, though.
I'm talking about
I said,
that I'll change a lot for him.
I'm specifically speaking on the first week.
I'm specifically speaking on the first week.
I'm saying them dropping on the same day.
There would be a fight for number one.
I don't think it's going to be a blow out of the water.
For number one, I would gladly check for you.
The backboard on fire?
That was a good album.
I forgot the name of it, but.
Offseason, I think.
One something.
I think I remember.
282.
Is it 2021, the off season?
Yeah, the off season.
Yeah, 282.
282.
Yeah.
Oh, I don't know.
282?
What did, what Chmoe call it do?
Silk Sonic?
I'll check that one.
Silk Sonic ain't do nothing.
60 grand.
No, I did some numbers.
That's just, but fucking, we didn't like it.
Yeah, I didn't love the record, but it sold.
104,000.
Yeah, it was crazy.
So again, to my point.
Okay, I see what Freed is saying.
Shit.
I see what you say.
I see what you're saying on the first week numbers.
That's what I said, though.
I need to see more information.
I literally said them two dropping on the first day.
It'll probably drop for one day.
So, Frise shut down, is your mark.
So Freeze is right.
Yeah, bow down.
All right, take the chain for you.
You want somebody to get that chain.
You want to get that chain.
No, no, I earn it.
I earned it.
Wait.
You earned yours?
Yeah, he got a nasty mom.
Yeah, he got a nasty mom.
It was a nasty one.
If he ain't going to rep it, you might well,
see what I was.
I mean, that wasn't an ass mom.
Don't, y'all did number one.
That one was an ass, though.
That one was an ass, yeah.
That one out.
That mumble's horrible that you won.
That's don't even count, man.
Hey, DJ!
That's a bubble championship.
Oh, shit.
Holy ring?
Yeah.
They play with my son.
It's a lockout year, man.
This shit don't count, no.
That's fucked up, man.
He's giving it to you, then, nigga.
No, I know how much that chain me and it is.
I'm not going to take it from it.
It don't mean nothing to me.
Oh.
You know how much it meant to...
They're trying to get that.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Just crossed them off the next one.
I'm not.
I ain't going to say nothing because that's a thing.
they want. We want some clips. I ain't know what I'm going to get him to
put the dink with the Scullio. He's different. Yeah.
I do want to quickly highlight Tyler's performance because that was
amazing. I love that shit. Him staying in character and laying on the ground,
all that shit afterwards.
The security nigger walked over.
Yeah, he said, all right, go to commercial.
He spoke that. He's all the best live performers we have in music period.
Tyler's performance on stage was crazy and Tyler's performance in the audience.
Crazy guy.
It was crazy for Kendrick and clips.
Clips.
And the clips.
Yeah.
Like, I love that.
That's what I mean about just the energy in that fucking building, yo.
That video was, that video was hard to watch almost.
Like, he provided the energy, but.
Yeah, man.
Shout out to Tyler.
Shout to Tyler.
And he looked great, too.
He looked great, too.
He did.
Overall, how did you feel about the show?
I thought it was not my favorite, like, overall show, but I think they did really good with the awards.
The shit that I cared about, they did right.
It was good.
So I'm cool.
We've seen so many years.
I'm fine.
Weird soundtracks and shit went an album of the year.
Yeah, like.
Bad Bunny, to me, had a cultural, defining fucking album and should have won and did.
I knew he was going to win.
That was my favorite.
I knew when they announced the Latin album award, I've never seen them announce this award on television ever.
And then when I realized he's still there, I said, oh, okay, this is Bad Bunny's night.
He's winning an album of a year.
They set it up Super Bowl next week.
I got it.
Nice.
And well-deserved.
I'm not knocking, but some of these things you can see to play.
And he used the moment.
He did.
I love his speech.
He did.
He did.
And part of me thinks that's why,
that also played into it.
I think they knew certain people
was going to get up there and do
seize the moment.
Oh, yeah.
So we can't do it as a network
or as a whatever,
but I know you're going to do it.
Right.
And I'm going to give you the runaway to do it
because if it was the other way around,
they'd have made sure he wouldn't have won.
True.
Shout out to Shibuzzi winning.
Congratulations to him.
For sure.
First black dude to win
whatever that country category was that he won.
the black country category.
Yeah.
Kind of.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The colored section.
He's another one.
They're on his ass.
Yeah.
They're on his ass for that little speech.
Why?
What do you say?
He said that immigrants built this country.
Oh.
They did.
Longer black people.
Yeah.
Slaves are nine.
There's always got to add that when they're saying immigrants.
I mean immigrants rather about voluntary or involuntary.
Fair.
Fair.
Fair.
This bitch.
Both.
I'm glad he said that.
He needed to say that.
You needed to say that.
You should.
Have you black history, much, y'all?
You disagree?
Yeah.
He goes.
Yeah, I think there's a lot of context missing.
But y'all ain't going to trick me in there having the FBI conversation right here.
Because that's what they're going to say I'm doing.
I'm not going to do it.
Well, I'm only when I say that.
Yeah, but you spread that and then they put that out there.
Well, if you say whatever you say, I'm not going to say it this time.
I'm not saying nothing.
They got them.
They got them.
I think,
and I'm not mad at him.
I think those were great words.
I think those were great words
and a great message.
I don't think he was intended
to offend anybody or make anybody mad.
But to say that,
he should have said some more.
He grouped it all together.
And that's where a lot of people,
you can't do that.
That's what the problem.
Slaves are not immigrants issue.
You keep looking at me sometimes.
That's the distinction.
Did you hear what I said?
Mm-mm.
I said, whether violence.
or involuntary.
So the involuntary people were slaves
that were stolen and bought here.
Me and Mark said yes.
Whether voluntary.
But that's the only thing that they're killing them.
That's it.
Yeah. That's it.
That's it.
But congratulations to them.
Who else?
Who else? Who else?
Who else? It's somebody else.
Oh, Cher.
Oh, my God.
Share. What did y'all think of?
She was hanging out of Bruno before.
She wasn't there.
Before we, before we did that,
I just want to clear this up
because that is why they were killing Shibuzi,
and they are correct.
you said voluntary or involuntary immigrant.
The definition of an immigrant
is a person who moves to a country
other than their own country with the intention
of living there permanently or long term.
The people didn't have the choice.
Well, that's what you add.
We all say the same thing.
I will just add for a little context
now that anybody cares,
but there was a major paper written
about 50 years ago by a man named John Agbu.
And he referred to enslaved people
as involuntary immigrants to say, like,
some people are that,
but then there's an involuntary piece.
So we all say in the same thing,
same thing. I think sometimes we need to get to the spirit of what people are saying and not
nitpick the word. Yeah, because we know what you mean and we know why you're saying it. Now,
there are people who ignore foundational black Americans, ADO, whatever you won't call them and they
ignore that and only focus on the immigrants. Not, we, black people built this shit. We got to be
honest about that. But I don't think he was saying anything different. I think he was trying to,
in a moment where ICE is attacking people and immigrants are under attack. I think it's reasonable to
say, hey, wait a minute, stop the xenophobia. Y'all are living off these people. I thought
is a good moment. And I ain't going to kill somebody
for, again, you know where his heart is.
You know what he's trying. You know what he's trying.
You know what he's trying. That's what I'm saying.
Nervous as fuck. It's his first
Grammy's like you up there in front
of the world and you're trying to make a political statement.
I think instead of us
I think instead of us critiquing them, I think we need
to be applauded them because it took some
balls to do that. Especially
on the biggest stage in the world. Especially when we
up here getting on everybody else for not saying something.
Can we get back to me wanting to fuck share?
Oh shit.
I was going to ask ICE. You took the
Can we get right back to whatever?
She doesn't look good.
She was looking like something.
Yo.
I see what the young boy was.
I'm not the fucking dustballs out of you.
You, shit.
Oh, since we're doing that,
I got one more name to throw in the mix
and y'all might judge me for.
Let's hear it.
I knocked Shaka Khan off.
Oh.
Oh, Shockey.
All right.
No break.
We exchanged glances on that.
All right.
All right.
I look there on that stage.
I said, Shaka.
I think I love you.
Naga, you crazy.
Shear was looking like something.
Low kid.
Alex is turning it up on shit, boy.
He got shit.
Annie and the will.
Oh, she don't know what's going on.
She don't know what the fuck is.
She thought Luther.
She said, Luther.
She was alive.
Oh, shit, Luther.
Luther.
That's my boy.
You know it.
Where is Luther?
You know that nigga, Dave.
You know that nigga, Dave.
I'm like, wait, hold on.
That nigga corn.
She's back here with Bruno.
I love when they pan.
I love when they panned.
Kendrick and Dave and Soundwe.
They're cracking up.
Like, what?
She was Luther Gendrous.
He's got to be about Lisa.
And he finally it.
He cleaned it up.
Frederick did a great job of cleaning it up.
Even before that, she walked the way they're like,
yo, you got an award to present, dog.
Like, come here.
Oh, that was fun.
She ain't know what the fuck was going on.
Her and Joni Mitchell earlier,
I don't know if anybody saw that in the earlier presentation,
she won for something.
Best repackaging of an Al
album and she got up there.
It was, it might have been dead silent with her standing at the mic for like 30 seconds,
which feels like a lifetime.
Right.
Award ceremony.
She's like, I guess this is for whatever the album was called.
And then she was just rambling.
So those two, chef's kiss.
Yeah.
But she made me realize how much I love mistakes during award shows.
Live shows, yeah.
That's why I love live shows.
Yeah.
You want to see something.
Like the Will Smith slap, the fucking, what was the up the big one with, uh,
Not in music
Miss America shit
Was it that one?
Oh Miss America was another one
But now it was one of the Oscars
Where they got up there
And announced the wrong movie
Moonlight
Yeah that one
Steve Harvey shit
Yeah yeah
That shit was crazy
No that's Miss Universe
Yeah
But that moonlight shit
Yeah
Like mistakes turn award shows up
They do
I appreciate that from Shire
But giving an award
To the guy that's dead
That you know it's dead
You were friends with him
Well technically he does get an award
for that
I'd say, niggas she looked for.
But she's like she's coming to the stage.
She didn't remember.
She was hiding.
She looked for that nigga to burn.
She didn't move her.
Sonny gone, girl.
Sunny gone, girl.
Allie's her fucked up.
Whatever you doing, nigga.
Keep doing it.
Yeah.
Salute.
I can see how you get in the wheel, nigga.
All she thought about was dick up there.
Yep.
That little lace.
That's funny.
You're nasty.
You're funny.
You admitted that.
No, look at
Shamp, dude.
Michelle looked great.
She looks at the boots.
No, face age.
Believe.
The face age.
Their face looked pretty good for 80 or whatever.
She was like,
my shit was injected in that face.
That face ain't moved, though.
Yeah.
Oh, please.
We fuck the 26-year-old who face ain't moved.
Word.
The fuck you're talking about.
Now we want your shit.
That's that room face ain't moved.
That's a bowling pit that I would knock down.
It's Steve, right?
What?
That would be the best.
I would give the best dick I ever had,
go get a drink and come back and ask the whole 100 mil.
You get it.
Yo, baby, I'm about to run the target, yo.
Can I get like 200 mil or something?
Like, where's your car that was your own your shit again?
You go to bed, right?
She don't remember.
Nothing.
Shit don't remember.
Once you get that card,
sign his power of attorney real quick.
Remember you said I could go get the,
Remember the authorized user?
While they was talking
doing the speech, she was at the back talking,
dude. I was. I was a whole time.
She didn't know she was there.
You know shares her, because what Amber was going to say?
You call Amber Schmuter. That's Cher.
You can't even get your jokes off on it.
You lost your man that 80-year-old.
You can't get no jokes off because that 80-year-old is her.
It's her. Yeah. Yeah.
That's crazy.
And shout to Luther Vandross.
Always shout to Luke the vet.
The rest in peace.
Shout to Luther.
One of the greatest, man.
One of the greatest.
Anything else from the Grammys we need?
What did you think of the clips performance?
That was great.
Yeah, I loved it.
It was great.
I think that was dope.
The whole snowing, you know, on the stage shit.
I'm still sad to win, man.
I'm sorry, I'm still fucked that.
Oh, my bad.
First of those section of one.
Yes.
All right, so it's no.
No, I like the performance.
That's my favorite song on the album, so I was glad to hit up.
I've seen that part.
That was fire.
It was a dope performance, Joe.
Okay, well, why?
It was all right.
Well, tell me your thoughts on the performance.
I liked it.
It was a very, it was a rap performance, so I liked it.
I like, anytime they get up there with their breath control and their cadence, they always kill that shit.
I didn't love the song choice.
Me either.
I did.
I didn't love the song choice in that setting.
What would you have done?
Burrs.
Don't sing to me is the obvious.
But they already did that in front of the Vatican or whatever the fuck that was.
You can't top that.
John Legend just said.
Honestly, I would have done anything but that.
I'd have done Fico.
I'd have done the shit with Tyler.
I'd have done...
I don't know if you could see.
It's like...
You're doing so far ahead.
You got the choir set.
I would have done choir.
Nibgini.
You had John Legend.
I don't care.
You want to do that because Farrell just won the award.
I'm not mad at the song choice.
I do it.
I'll be it maybe not the most...
Maybe a little anticlimatic.
It's hard.
That's what I'm saying.
I mean, remember when the Hay Y'I was everywhere
at the Grimmie?
He was like, fucking for the 3,000 goddamn time.
Here it is one more time.
Sometimes you just got to do that.
Like, you do it everywhere, but it worked.
Like, birds don't sing work.
I need birds and would have moved that crowd.
And you got John Legend there.
And you said John Legend was there sounding like velvet.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
And them niggas looked amazing.
Man, they wanted to show them Louis Vuitton choir robes off.
That's what that was.
That too.
How do the Choirs do birds don't sing?
And then the choir, I like the bop when the beat drop.
I like the choir bobbing.
But other than that, like, it was a bunch of choirs all night.
So, like, I didn't think it was a standout.
Right, great.
But they smoked it.
They smoked it.
It was good.
I'd have picked a different song.
Okay.
Not me.
I'm what you're reasonable.
Other than that.
How do you have?
I would have been mad at seeing Stove God on the stage.
Yeah, man.
Turn shit up.
Clips this shit out.
But I mean, they did that because that was still a very clip song.
It was.
But all that for, you know what it is.
I'm just love for a too.
I know.
You all for real.
They can't move, man.
Get out of the way.
You can't take them off.
You can't take them off.
I do it.
I bought every color.
too. How do you feel about the
Billy Ilish stolen land comments
that they killing her for? I didn't
see nobody killing Billy Ilish.
They are. Yeah.
Oh, the other side. Yeah.
Oh, no, that's Billy
Irish and her brother.
They're my favorite siblings.
I'm just making you okay.
Phineas had a nice little joint with him too.
I'm like, all right, Phineas.
You see him?
Yo, on gang.
But listen, I think that's one of the reasons
that Billy Alice Kissett Award,
because we need somebody who's going to get up there
and do what Billy is going to do.
I love that.
They're saying she would give back
her million dollar house or whatever the fuck.
Like, what the fuck does one have to do with the other?
Oh, please.
The fuck up.
Deflection.
Was Sabrina Carpenter singing?
Probably not.
Was that live, Mike?
Probably not.
I didn't think it was either.
That's a cool performance.
She's another one.
Oh, no, I enjoyed it.
She puts on when it comes.
I'm not the biggest fan of her music, but she puts on.
I am.
I enjoyed the performance and she looked great.
Yeah.
She looked great.
That's not my wheelhouse.
I didn't see.
Oh, okay.
I don't see that kind of thing.
But she sounds great.
In the afterlife, you marry a white girl.
I think so.
See?
You chiming it on his afterlife.
How you know what he's doing in the afterlife?
How are you to marry a white girl?
No, I don't think so.
Thank you, is.
I could see.
It'd be them.
I was going to make a joke about whites being in the afterlife,
but that would be inappropriate.
So I'm not
Yeah, yeah
Lord
That's what
It'd be funny
But it wouldn't be
So it wouldn't make that joke
But I don't think I have anything else to say
About the Grammy
But let's just go off
A Sabrina Carpenter
What else happened
I just don't want to spend some time
On Sabrina Carpenter
I think the performance is great
That's all
I think the performance is great
I just want to reiterate that
Okay
All right you got
How does she look
No there's a growing community
Of people that sort of awards
And said
I fuck the shit out
Sabrina Carver. Oh, I see where we're stepping in.
I'm walking. I'm not
saying that Mark is saying that, but
there's a list.
And I'm not saying that if I were to have a white girl back.
Actually, anyone, and it was a meme
because they put the camera on it when she made that face
when she was kind of biting her lip and her tongue
and it was. She does her little sexual.
How old is she before I participated in this conversation?
She's late 20. Oh, yeah.
I take her right to crown chicken.
I take her right to Dr. James.
over her and went to share. I'm like, God damn.
No, Sabrina Carver did look good. She did look good.
She did look good. She's 26.
As late 20s.
She only five feet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's true.
Who's up?
Thoughts?
When you are part of the month, what's the thoughts?
Is that wrong?
That is your responsibility this month.
I know.
If y'all was sitting at one of them front tables with your wife or your wife or
your girlfriend,
how many times would you get up from that table
and leave her to go talk to somebody?
I got to go get drinks.
Just guesstimate.
Can't bring drinks in the table?
I got a bladder issue, so I got to always get up.
I got to get up. I was a business, so I want to go
shake some heads. I drink a lot of water.
This is definitely networking.
I got to get up.
The water and tea are just running through me.
You know, that green tea.
Yeah, that's true.
Make a gift.
Yeah, you know.
Jim Mark and Sabrina Clark Carpenter is funny.
All right.
All right, that was the end of our Grammy coverage.
Congratulations to all the winners, each and every winner,
everybody that was nominated.
Sloat to Jesse and Janade on the production.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, go Jesse.
I'm curious where it's going to land.
They're done with CBS.
Yes.
I'm curious where it's going to end up.
You think it's going to be streaming?
Like, you're using YouTube shit?
That may be true.
Netflix or YouTube about to pay a shit ton of money and get the rights.
Because you saw the pre-shows on YouTube.
And it looked, I mean, it felt very natural, normal.
It's an easy platform to do.
I think YouTube, my guess would be YouTube.
It's YouTube.
Because you could, I think you could have watched it on YouTube too.
Could you, I only started a pre-
You've been able to do that for a couple years, right?
The pre-show has been there for a while, but I don't know about to be in ceremony.
YouTube.
Interesting.
Starting in 2027, they've song, the recording academy, pardon me, has signed a new long-term
10-year rights deal with the Walt Disney Company.
ABC will take over the Grammys live streaming on Hulu and Disney Plus through at least
2036.
Oh, there we go.
And there you have it.
There you have it.
Grammys, everybody.
And Disney announced the new CEO, right?
Yeah, Iger stepped out.
Igers out of here.
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I'm not sure our Giants fans are feeling out there about that one, but it's hot off the press, so shout out to him.
What do we need to get into with sports?
The fight.
The fight, yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, take it away.
Take it away.
Don't play.
Big Jersey.
Yo, you from New Jersey?
I am.
Be hype then, nigga.
They were saying that.
Be hype.
Don't just say, yo, what do you want to do?
sports with the fight. Be hype.
Be hype. Be hype because you go or one? Yes.
No, he didn't win. No, no. He didn't just win, though.
He didn't win.
Bring it down. He put on a clinic
against somebody the nigger said
could beat him against a killer.
He made the killer look like a puppy
in the ring. Just
totally dismantled him.
Talk big g-nork,
especially. Congratulations to him.
Yeah. So all the nays say is shut the fuck up.
I didn't hear anything. I didn't say you.
Sometimes they were creating.
they say. No, no, no, no, no. I didn't hear one person say that this dude was about to beat up
Shakur. I just didn't hear that. They said this is the one that he could lose. Bro, niggas has been
dissing Shakur for the better part of five years now. He don't fight nobody. He's mad corny. He's boring.
He's running from all the top fighters, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, he caught a lot
of backlash because one of those fights was really boring. No, a few of them. One of his recent fights was
like, is he ducking people? Really, really boring. He's just a defense first fighter. So his, his plan is like
Floyd plan, yo. I'm going to hit you. I'm not going to get hit. I'm not. Boxing is not
just standing in the middle of the ring and both of us swinging to our arms get tired
to see who get knocked out. It's a sport. Yeah. I'm asking, does he face the right people?
Is he ducked top challenges? No, I just think whoever you put in front of them, they lined
it up. And nowadays, boxers are just smarter with how they pick fights. Like back in the day,
you would just, yo, I'm a fight parks because he's the second greatest duel and they're giving
us peanuts. Nowadays, they're strategic.
strategically get to the
Pacquiao Floyd moment
where we both go and cash out
$300 million.
Like they've learned now
that if I'm going to go in the ring
and get hurt
and potentially get life-altering injuries,
I'm going to get paid for that risk.
And so I think the real fight
that everybody want to see
is, of course, Tank and Shakur.
That's the one that they're building up for,
but Tank got to win some more fights
and stay out of fucking trouble.
And then Shikor got to beat up a couple more people.
And then I think they'll get there
to where they both could get that payday.
Their payday would damn there'd be a billion dollars.
Wow.
So Chacore beat the shit out of Tio, and Tio's good.
Shout to him.
But Chacore just basically dismantled him.
When you could take an A-level fighter and make them look like a D-level fighter
that just speaks to your skill sets.
Now, Floyd used to take real good fighters and just make them look like they wasn't shit.
That's how he made him look on Saturday.
And I guess that's just not shocking to me because I recognize him as being that good.
Yeah, he's great.
Like, he's great.
He is.
He is.
So, fight started late.
I watched it.
It was entertaining.
Was it?
Yeah, it was a good fight.
What was the fight I saw the mean with the dude got hit so hard, his hairpiece flew up?
Yeah.
That was the same card, right?
Yeah, it's the same car.
If there was anywhere where I wouldn't glue and tape my toupee on my head, it's a box.
I saw him on the breakfast club kind of explained his thinking.
I still didn't get it.
What did he say?
What did he say?
He said, his man that did it.
Put the super glue and the super tape on.
He said he paid $700.
He said he really thought that it would stay on.
He said he had a hair accident a few days before,
and he was just contemplating ways to get around it,
and his man said there's no way that this was going to fall.
His name is Big Baby Miller.
Wow.
Every part of that playing sounds fucked up.
My man's $700 super glue accident a few days before.
A week before.
All that shit sounds like a bad idea.
And it's wild because pause, he has the right.
head for Baldi.
Some niggas
unacceptable baldy though, man.
But some niggas don't know
that they have the right head for a ball.
Like, I understand why it's just holding on.
Like, his head ain't
baldy head.
Do you feel like you got a ball head? I feel like you do.
No. The second he'd do that
is over. It's full time. It's over?
He looked like common.
Full-time dad.
Y'all never doing about like why he do that?
He's damn near Baldi now.
If he were to be bald...
Now, he could get that shit shined up right.
It's over you.
I'm a part of it's a rocket.
He'll kill the streets with the ball.
He's going to hold on as long as he can.
He's going to hold on like fucking simply red.
Yeah, man.
No, for real.
He's going to keep holding on.
It's cool.
How long do you think,
how long he didn't go hold on?
Sure.
I'm not even going to.
Come on, just throwing the ball in the tumult.
Come on.
I'm not even listening to you.
Power with him.
Help out.
My hair's growing back.
Wait.
I'm sorry.
You mean like, like you?
He's going to pay for the shirt.
You mean that literally?
Bro, we're not going to center it.
My hair, I'm not cutting my hair off.
I'm not telling you, but you'll go to Turkey first.
Yeah, I go to Turkey.
But you said it's actually growing back like it's going to be a four-headed hair.
It's already going back.
Like you have a four-headed hair again.
My hair is already going to take the shit for the back again?
They're going to take the shit for the back game.
Yeah, but I said, where's it growing from?
Put it up here.
So you got a line right here so we can be able to tell.
Yeah.
Did you do it already?
Is that why you wearing the hats all the time?
Tend the skullio.
You did it?
You did it?
Wait a minute.
I smack the-
Oh, that's why I was growing back.
Take the scully on right now.
You keep the scullion to the turkey.
Take the scully on.
That's your egg growing back, boy.
He just trying to keep it long.
He ain't grown up.
He looks a mess.
You look an absolute mess.
Look at him.
You're an idiot.
I love you, bro.
You're a fool.
I mean, he's one of the gods.
He's not going to let it go.
But he can pull it off, I think.
It's looking good in the front in the size now.
You do the LeBronjoin'am.
I'm chilling, bro.
Nah, that career nigger doing some shit in the front.
ancient Chinese secrets, nigga.
He's bugging out in the front of a little bit.
Yeah, he's body.
You got to tell him to relax.
All right, I hear you.
I'll tell him.
I'll tell him, I got you.
Congrats to Shakur.
Congrats to Big Baby Miller.
Yes.
He still won.
He did.
He did.
Might well win.
You got to win.
Word.
Because I was punching the shit out of his face.
You'll mean forever.
You can't lose.
You can't lose that, yeah.
Niggas his fist slid, right across the top of your head
and peeled your shit back?
You have to win that fight.
It's like literally, then you got his cat Bill back.
Did you see Deontay Wilder's interview
talking about Tyson Fury cheated at least two of the fights he caught him?
I didn't see it, but I saw the clips like in a much of him.
What he said?
He blinded me.
He hit me too hard.
You know, he said, go look him up, Google him.
He's a cheater, and there's reasons he's not allowed back in America.
And I got the proof, and he won't sue me for defamation
because he know I got the proof.
and I dare him, I'd love to get up there
and show receipts to what I'm saying.
Whatever Deonté Wilde is saying,
I'm agreeing with, because I can't beat him.
They got clips, though, showing that
Tyson's Fury hand was outside the glove, right?
His glove was bending when he hit Deonté Wilder.
Now we're on the dark web.
The dark web is a regular issue?
You said his hand was bending?
Like, yeah, like the glove was bending.
The top of the glove was bending.
So it seemed like his hand wasn't.
You know how your hand go in the glove and hold it.
So he said he was hitting it with more knuckles.
Yeah, more, yeah, more, yeah.
Than glove.
Watch the shit, it's, I swear to God.
I'm not a conspiracy thing.
That's not a fight I'm looking to see again anyway.
Deonté Wiley and Tyson Fury.
I've seen it enough.
She's so crazy.
Yeah, I'm cool.
My nigga, I don't care if he had hammers on his hands.
You was getting hit.
If Deonti Waller is sitting in front of me saying Tyson Fury cheated, then that's what he did.
He cheated, big dog.
Hey, big dog.
And I'm with you.
Yeah, let's get them, niggas.
And I'm with you.
Fuck all.
Fury.
I wish you.
But right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When you leave?
I can be in your ass.
How many ices do you think it would take to win against Deonti Wallet?
He's doing that stupid game.
You know, I'm not going to ice is.
You need the whole tray ice, man.
That's a good one, Mark.
You need the metal seat.
Put some on the ground so he slipped everything.
You not know, then you know that third half.
No.
Oh, man.
Oh, shit.
That's hilarious, show.
I want to ice their hands, I wasn't trying to joke.
Freeze, I mean.
There's going to be a few.
Four?
No, no, you need more than four.
You need more than four you to be the answer?
That motherfucker is.
I need more than four Joe's.
How many issues, nigga?
You're standing like that.
How many issues?
He's tough.
That's tough.
Ice answer.
It's going to take a lot, bro, double digits.
Ten.
Higher double digits.
Probably 25.
We got to have to jump jump this, nigga.
25, 25 ices.
Ish.
he ain't gonna answer ish i know i know i know i know i know i know i's just thinking four i was gonna say
three four issues hit that first is mark the other two issues gonna fall with him six
six marks i ain't gonna hold you i think it's lying yawalli yawalliote yeah i don't say well
i beat the shit out of fucking d'all together hey y'all could be together hey four
issues and six marks i'm betting on de yon's why y'all gonna die what you think he's talking about
Why you're always trying to be so cool on the party?
Five.
Niggia, that was he was a world champion.
Have you seen this?
In a boxing match?
Well, we're fighting a boxing match.
All right, let me ask you a choice.
We're boxing.
That would make a difference.
It's a very big.
Anything.
Whatever he felt like going against you.
Anything he's wanting to do to y'all.
If we fight and I'm saying three.
Yes.
We're fighting I'm saying three.
If we're boxing, I'm saying six.
Okay, give me your plan of attack for three.
Do one of the three got a gun?
Take him to the ground.
Once one of the niggas grab his legs and get him on the ground, it's night night.
How many marks do you think he's going to
take to get Deonté Wiley legs to the ground
in this night night? One mark.
With three other, two other niggas fighting you
from the sides? Yeah.
How many punches you think he need to get
y'all off of him? I'm just, I'm not trying to
you're trying to punch him. You got to grab him quick too.
You know what I'm going to be to not let him punch me, right?
You understand. There's three of us.
What's you talking about? I was saying like a beat him. I'm saying
three of us, Ken.
Now, if you five, eight.
You say there's three of you.
That thing is five, eight. That dig is five, five, six.
That nigga is trained.
I thought you're helping me.
That nigga is trained in jujitsu.
He's trained in moitai.
You think he's just going to sit there and let a nigga hit him?
By the time I grab one of the niggas grab his legs and tie him up,
his balance going to be off.
Hey, guys, and they're going to tie it.
They got a roof.
Oh, shit, he's a cowboy.
They got a tie up.
He's about that tie up, nigga.
Like I said.
They got a rope, bird.
In a boxing match.
Oh, my God.
In a boxing match, I think six of us.
In a boxing match, I think six are not crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think.
Y'all got that nigga underestimated like a motherfucker.
You need a bunch of niggas.
Six inches.
Like, said, three and four.
I said, it's good to.
More than four and six.
That nigga, that nigga, six seven.
Yeah.
How much you way?
226.
This 20 ain't that crazy.
Yeah.
Y'all got it.
It's a strong.
It's a strong.
It's a lower.
Solid.
I'm saying six.
Are you lowering enough?
The number I'm putting out there is to guarantee.
a win, like not be up for debate.
How are you?
How are you what you say?
You ain't going to be a move.
A swarm.
I think six to do it.
Yeah, as I'm saying, six is not crazy.
Give me 25.
Let me 25 of me.
We got them.
No shot.
And I got half of your number.
Give me 12, 12 and a half.
And lights out for him.
Double digits.
I think you underestimate yourself.
No, I'm trying to get this done.
I'm trying to get this done and get out of town.
I'm not trying to have a debate.
I might sit in the,
I might not even get in that shit.
Y'all do it.
Worried.
I might be in the back.
I'm coaching.
Yo, yo, other side.
Wait a minute.
So even in your fantasy fight, you still have chosen.
You're choked.
I don't use that word.
You call it choke?
Even in your fantasy fight you're a bitch.
I'm fighting for mine, dude.
He sits on the police and his fantasy.
I'm going to sit in help.
Yo, I'm going to sit there.
Come up.
Sit back here and be sick.
You got their money.
What?
What's your money?
You got their money.
All right.
All right.
So, real quick.
This is chat here.
All right.
All right.
My last question,
because I don't want to drag this out.
This wasn't on the board at all.
It's your mark.
How many of you guys would it take to be the prime Mike Tyson?
Shit.
I just want to understand y'all's 30 games.
Way, way more.
Give it to me.
Give me a number.
Double digits.
Just please a number.
Think.
Help.
It's a segment that we've created.
It's fast, bro.
20.
Okay.
It's 15.
Well, you lost five.
But only three for Deonté Wilde.
Deonté Wilde and Mike Tyson are two total.
No, no, I'm just asking.
We didn't say three for Deonté Wilde.
He did.
No.
I said four.
15 to 20 for Mike.
That's what I'm saying.
15 to 20 for Mike.
Mark?
In a boxing match, I'm going to say the same.
In a fight?
Six.
See, I look at Mike different.
In a fight.
Let's move on.
And I think y'all underestimate what people can do.
And Mike is fast.
In a boxing match?
No.
I said 15 of us.
I'm not in a boxing match.
It's going to take 15 of y'all for a nigger and Corey.
Do you think 15 punches will make him tired?
I think if you have 15 people you can surround him.
I mean, you can't defend from 15.
And then what?
And what's going to happen then?
Are you all driving?
My point is still saying.
He did you think 15 punches will make you tired.
Yeah, eventually.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, you think he will get tired eventually?
If 15 of us are fighting him, how are crazy?
Hold on, last question.
Last question.
Hold on, hold on.
Last question.
How many punches you think he has to use?
15.
And he's not going to be tired.
I'm trying to tell us, man.
Prime Mike Tyson.
Nah, I think, I think if they hit one of the mark,
six marks is leaving.
Check, please.
Where is at?
All right, moving on.
That's crazy.
Moving on you.
That's why I love male ego.
I wouldn't want to live on his earth
if male ego wasn't distra.
I don't think his ego, Sam.
Oh, please.
What you would have to take to beat Mike Tyson?
There's not a remote.
See?
And see?
It would be like 200.
Really?
You think so?
200 punches, he'll be a little tired.
You bet off asking me how many Joe's would it take to apologize to Mike for whatever
whatever went wrong.
Whatever he's angry.
We already seen that.
Who size you all, yo?
I'm going on the side of content.
That's right.
Do you are?
Oh, shit.
Good job.
Shocker.
Shocker.
Shocker, shocker.
Oh, my God.
All right.
Come on.
Oh, shit.
Plyes versus, come on.
I don't even know how to say this.
Because of ice.
No, one because of me.
I'm just waiting.
Trick Daddy.
Yeah, Trick Daddy.
Trick Daddy went on an interview and he was saying, like,
Plies can't see me in no way.
I got anthems for the streets.
I got anthems for, you know, commercial records.
Which he does.
He does.
And he was, I don't know where, like, why he chose the name plaz.
I don't know if they asked him.
I didn't, I didn't see what led to it.
But that's what pissed you off.
No, it never pissed me off.
I've been on the other side of this.
Nick, I came in here and told y'all I got plies taking juvenile in the verses.
You be high.
I've been standing on what plies, a lot of people just forget about plies.
A lot of people forget that plaz run.
A lot of people let the, the perception of his image after the whole Jamie Fox story
changed how they looked at his music.
I forgot. I don't remember that.
It was a video shoot and they said it was a bunch of people
coming to check, Plas. Plas hit in the bathroom
and caught security, shit like that.
So people started looking at him like, oh, you're not tough,
you're not this, you're not that.
We don't hear your music the same because you didn't let
these 20 niggas come jump on you for your jewelry.
I'm just when Plice used to cut on the camera. What happened to that?
What happened?
What are you used to cut on the camera and talk shit?
It's been a while, I feel like. He still don't.
He's still don't.
I don't see any of a lot and shit now.
What does Plies play when Trick Daddy plays Nann?
Trick Daddy's highest
Or? Hold on. Hold on.
Give him some time.
They're tough.
I'm just trying to think, because you're throwing off the record.
I'm throwing up.
I'll say you're throwing it out the blue.
I don't have his listen for me.
But if he plays NAN, I would go to a...
10 of Spades.
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm just trying to think.
All right, fine.
1-0, cool, cool, cool.
I'll throw a record out there.
It don't matter.
It's 1-0-0.
All right, 1-0.
1-0.
No, no, no.
Let me return now.
What is trick daddy play when plies does Bust it baby too?
Bust it baby.
That's the one with Neo on it.
Sheesh.
I like that song.
Shut up.
Yeah.
Throw some trash.
No.
No.
No.
Shut up.
Shut up.
Okay.
What's up?
I'm playing it.
Now let's have a fight.
I'm a thud.
I'm a thug.
That's about to say.
I'm a thug.
You know what, fuck y'all.
I'm going to get my plows list out.
He got a top of my head.
That's not fair if you're going to do that because I'm off the dome.
Well, well, I'm not.
Versus ain't off the dome.
All right, then forget it then.
No, ain't no forget it.
I'm right here.
Now you got to go to Plies essentials.
I'm going to my, no, never.
Now you go on the Ply's Essentials.
Especially I don't do essentials.
I don't do essentials.
Here we go.
He got the one, I just want the record to show.
He got the one plies record off the dome.
He played, he played the one record off the dome.
Because you go and match up.
I wasn't doing.
matchup. That's why. All right, Shardy with T. Payne.
Even though I'm not your man, you're not my girl. I'm going to call you my
sharday. That record.
Good record. Take it to the house.
That's not going to win again, Shardy. I'm just telling you
what I'm playing. I'm just like, that's not going to do it.
I'm just telling you records that. Okay, so we're going back.
So you're still on your phone. I'm done with you. I'm done with you.
I'm not talking to niggins that hip hop from essentials, yo.
I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I tried to do this off the dome. You got your phone.
I don't. I don't. I'm hands free. Now we go. You don't read the whole shit.
I don't even know that I'm disagreeing with you.
I just wanted to hear it.
I just wanted to hear it play out.
Wasted.
Versus it.
Listen, man.
Listen, man.
No, no, no.
20 is going to get, it's going to get, it's going to get, it's going to get slippery for a trick daddy.
But a good 10.
The first 10.
No, I'm talking 20 records.
Plas going to his feature bag and you can hang it up.
Yeah, he's right.
I don't know that because I didn't go on my phone.
I didn't check my phone.
It's cool.
I'm a thug holiday, nigga.
I love all this.
I love...
Trick Daddy's first three albums are...
He got some shit.
You do.
Amazing.
And then I can say Plah's first three albums,
personally, Plas' first two albums are personal classics of mine.
Like, those are that, when you have that classic,
the album that's a classic to you,
but everybody else just might not agree.
The Real Testament is an amazing album.
Maybe if you got to hear, you know, and understand.
It is a personal classic.
But again, and then just let Plas get into the feature bag.
We can go all day.
Feature bag is rough.
All day.
Hang it up.
His feature bag is rough.
Day no.
Lose my mind.
Jeezy.
Plyce. Go.
I'm so hood.
Go.
You read your phone.
I'm not re-hosed.
My phone is on the other chair.
Don't try to nash dick big because he read his phone.
I know.
You was humble when you didn't read your phone.
I wasn't humble because I was trying to do match up with you.
But we just naming the songs, we can name them.
We can absolutely name them.
That don't mean nothing to me though, because on the verses,
like if you got enough street joints,
you could Gucci Gizi this.
Gucci Gizi does what?
A lot of people had Gucci winning that.
A lot of people had Gucci winning that off of the antics of you dissing the homeboy.
But when we're talking about versus...
No, he played a lot of...
He played a lot of mixtape joints in that versus that hit.
But from the record, if you go song for song,
this, and I'm taking my GZ bias out of this,
just talking to people who love the music, it was not even close.
The moment of the battle...
I have GZ winning too.
I'm just telling you that depending on your performance
and your mixtape records, you could make this.
But it wasn't neither one of those
was why people pick Gucci.
The two things you listed are not why they said Gucci.
They said Gucci because of the antics of the smoking on your dead
homie.
Oh, the disrespect.
Oh shit, you did that in his face.
That's not, it was one song.
You did one song.
One song does not win you an entire versus.
So you win that round.
Cool, you won that round.
You got it.
And GZZ's rebuttal to that.
People was like, oh shit, he smoked that.
He did.
But again, the moment.
No, that wasn't saying that in the moment.
Now you got Gizi Bob's.
That was the shit at the moment.
That was not being said in the moment.
Jizi's rebutta was hot.
That was not what was being said in the moment.
That's not true.
That's just not true.
He was like, you know, one thing for certain things.
Yes, yes.
Yes.
Yes, Joe.
You're wrong here.
I'm not going to have a Gizi talk with you.
It's fine.
It's not fair.
That was not the overwhelming.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
At all.
What did I just say?
nowhere near.
Can we can we?
Niggas was worried about Jeezy.
Niggas was afraid for him.
Niggas felt like he could get shot in the middle of that.
Nobody cared about that mature bullshit at the moment when that's what.
And Gucci himself went and said this is why it was the few.
You're talking about way later.
My nigger, I'm telling you.
You had to come on and say, you know, no, they spoke first.
They spoke first.
He looked away.
They spoke first.
What do you want me to say, Joe?
And you know why you had to say that?
Because we're fucking mature and I'm going to let you get your shit off.
I'm going to show up Dolo because I don't want to.
I'm going to come by myself.
I don't want to make this.
thing, I know you got a point to point
to the point. All of this is
revision is history. It's not
revisionist's history. All this is what niggas said
in the moment. I think that all of this is
revisionist. Well, you can think that and you'll be wrong in your
thinking, but we're talking about what the two people that were there
said happened in the moment. I've been wrong
before. I've been right a lot. I'm bored
than that couch. Well, this would be, oh, we're not going to couch
versus couch. I'm speaking about this in the moment.
So I'm telling you, I'm a bet on my wrong.
I'm a bet on that one. Well, you can bet on that.
You can bet on that. You got to be wrong as hell.
Joe, you be wrong.
They say, man, shit, shit is wrong.
He got his jeezy underwear on.
That way of that shit you talk about.
I don't.
I don't.
I don't want to be biased and it be biased.
I'm not being biased.
I'm not being biased.
Because you got on jeezy boxer base.
I know.
You just wrong.
Nobody's saying.
Learn how to be wrong.
I've been wrong before.
But that wasn't an overwhelming sensation.
Your man got clapped up.
Don't be mad about it.
Be wrong now.
I know.
Come on.
What's next?
Versus.
Versus.
We're here.
Let's do it.
All versus.
Yeah.
Versus.
And my God.
It was an ass.
Who picked hip boy?
That's what I want to know.
Show yourself.
I don't think anybody up here.
Nobody up here.
Yeah, I'm going to go back and watch.
None of you knicks better than I think of this.
It was a lot closer in our predictions than we're making it sound right now.
It wasn't like a niggins said Mike Wood was going to put belt the ass.
It could have been closer.
Hit boy terrible.
Yeah, he misplayed his hands.
Yeah, he misplained his hands.
Yeah, he has.
He did this in the boy wonder about.
Yo, do you think that they just think that or they don't be in touch with what the world looks at as the slaps?
versus what they look at as the slaps?
I don't know.
I don't think it was about the slaps.
I don't see how that could be.
I would have to imagine that there's someone on the production team
helping with some of the playlisting to some level.
Like, no disrespect.
It's too important to think that that wouldn't be happening.
I don't know.
It should be.
If it's not.
Evidently, no.
I don't know.
Because, again, this didn't look like, you know, some of them verses,
it looks like they have the songs already set and everything.
When you see niggas going back talking to the DJ and stuff like that,
I'm telling you play this record.
Yeah.
Yo, we doing this on the fly.
Like Jai did.
That's what Jod did.
Like, yo, oh, I'm making adjustments.
All right, do this, do that, do this, do that.
That's what it looked like happened here.
No disrespect.
Again, I keep saying this.
There's no reason I should hear that A set Rocky song in the verses off of the new album.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Especially when you have Goldie in one train.
That's my point.
The song not bad, but this ain't the time for that.
Yeah, questionable choices.
Questionable songs choices.
And even doing three of them in one round was also not great.
I don't know what he was thinking.
I really don't know.
And you ready to tell me I was right?
Give it to me.
Ray Shremert.
Oh, yeah.
I was just making jokes, though.
You figured they would come out.
They look good.
They look good.
That's great.
And they sounded good, and that shit worked.
Juicy J.
Like, when that happened, I said, all right.
It's over.
That's the rap.
Yeah.
What are we doing?
And that would have been before the Rihanna record.
It was before.
It was like.
I was like, what we do?
They was dragging hit boy
They was dragging hit boy's name
I ain't gonna lie
It got so did you see him on Twitter afterwards?
No
No
He took the ex
They had him
He was letting him have it
Yeah
What he's saying
He was like
Oh fuck out of here
Like he cursing fans out and stuff
Because they're getting on him
About why are you playing Nause records
And da da
He was just
Nah
Like he didn't accept the L
You know I went
A URL battle
And you can kind of tell
Who lost
By when they go on Twitter
after the battle?
Yeah.
This was that.
It was clear as day
from Hit Boy's timeline.
He took the L and is taking the L badly.
I ain't got nothing as bad to say
about Hit Boy because like I said,
in the other part,
he'll take the fight.
Yeah.
He's not going to run from the fight.
He's got great records.
I think he just misplayed the records.
Like the Nause record,
you play a Nause record
very early on in the set
or put it up against something
that you're not about to win.
Or you don't play it.
Or you don't play.
It's always that.
No disrespect.
Again, this is not, if you do, I think, I think what happened was you looked at the verse is like, let me just play like my best beats or something or my favorite beats.
Maybe.
This is not the place for that.
It's not the face.
It's not for our faves, right.
Right.
They didn't even budge when he did the whole trophy sample.
This is where I got it from.
They didn't even move.
It's like they didn't know.
It did, yeah.
And you can hear it right away.
The crowd was kind of whack, though, in respect to that.
That crowd should have been a little bit more lit.
It seemed like it was just the production team or something in the crowd.
Yeah. It did look like in-house crowd or something.
Yeah.
It looked like a sausage fest and no one was having fun.
They had one stripper come out.
It was like, all right, man.
You all got a couple dollars, man.
We could have made this look a little bit flyer.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I didn't like the venue.
It was too dark in there.
Like that shit made me feel my age because I don't know.
I don't want to see all you niggas on stage no more.
That part too, yeah.
It might have been more people on stage.
And madness.
And I know.
She was like a headache.
Yeah.
Somebody was babysitting up there.
He was.
He wore the son out with him.
Dang dog.
What are we doing up here, yo?
Let's get, all right.
And you're the hometown favorite.
Yeah.
Like, you get what I'm saying?
Like, you should have had a better understanding of what this calls for.
Yeah, it was the best.
It was a mess.
And you know what it is, too?
I'm just sitting here talking shit for three hours fucking man.
Oh, man, man.
Oh, yeah, it's on some old school shit.
This is going to come off so wrong.
Producers wasn't really meant to be seen like this.
You're not wrong.
I hate to.
That's a fact.
I don't think so.
Some of them, obviously, the ones that perform.
We're not talking about Pharrell, Eric Serb.
We're not talking about, yeah.
Yeah.
Swiss.
I am not in the Swiss.
No, there's a list of people that are excluded from what I'm saying.
It's small.
But just back in the day, if you were a producer, no matter how ill you were, you were normally in your own producer world, like, not really trying to be seen too much.
When you think that changed?
The tag.
Tags.
I changed it.
Just place?
I mean, what was the producer tag before that?
I didn't care about.
I'm open to hear you might be right yeah I never for real was using this voice
Alchemist had a tag and beat miners had tags pretty early but yeah and I'm talking shit I'm not
trying to take credit for this but when the beat tag became popular yeah then they
producers had to now it changed the game it did that's my opinion of it I think also
not for nothing when the producer became less of like the crew and it became super free
It's everyone for everything, which is around Elmatic.
That was kind of the start of it, really.
Because no longer was the producer, the Riza, or Eric Sermon, or someone who, or Havoc, or someone
who was in the crew, you're now just a bunch of freelancers, everybody getting beats from
everybody.
You kind of had to do some shit to set yourself apart from whomever.
I think, I think.
These two niggas on stage, it was a lot of producer swag up there.
Went, went, for rail.
Say more.
What do you mean?
What's producer swag?
producer swag.
What does that mean?
What does that mean, bro?
Come on, man.
You do know what I'm saying, man.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
With the Hibbos,
keep in respect.
Hit Boys is a pretty good rapper.
I don't want to hear him
rapping when like Kanye
or someone else is rapping.
Respectfully.
Oh yeah, that was a mess.
Respectfully.
Yes.
If Kanye is doing the verse,
shut up, man.
Do you get in your hype man bag?
You know what I'm saying?
But not rap the actual person?
All along with the whole shit.
Producers swag.
And I get it.
It's a live performance,
so you've got to try to do something.
Can you say a little bit more?
I'll tell you what it is.
I hate more.
Thank you, Park.
Save me, please.
Please save me.
I'll tell you what another problem is,
is when the producers stop becoming
traditionally DJs,
that didn't help either.
Because back in the day,
producers were typically DJs
so they know how to just hype the crowd,
get out the way,
let the record be the record.
They're not really DJs no more.
Most of them.
Yeah.
So they might have been
rappers at one point or still trying to rap.
Or wasn't a rap. Now this is how
they know how to perform. Whereas a DJ would
just get there. Listen, don't attack me.
Don't come attack me. I ain't
never had no swag neither. It's
introverted rappers didn't have to have swag
either. I come from that era. But producers
oh my lord,
rapping over the vocals,
Aniche jeans.
It's just to be a mess.
It'd be a mess.
A fucking bubble vest
with some fucking caterpillar
boots with some fucking
they be a mass
producers yo
Farrell did it
Farrell and Swiss
Because Ferrell's one of the best dressed
men and always has been
So Farrell, Swiss and Tim
became stars
as the producers
They became from behind the scenes
to be in the forefront
You didn't have a bunch of producers doing that
prior to them
Niggers was making beats
Niggas didn't know what these niggas looked like
until niggas knew
producers, but you couldn't spot them niggas in the crowd.
Well, again, outside of Eric Serbitt and Havoc and Rizek and Rizzer.
But they was a part of the group.
So those...
Q-TIB.
They were part of the group.
They were part of the group.
I'm not talking about none of them.
Yeah, like a lot of real hip-hop niggers.
No, I ain't going to say that.
But like Ali Shaheed Mohammed, people might not know who he is if they see him if you are hip-hop
head.
Niggers know Farrel worldwide.
People know Swizz, Tim, worldwide.
They came from behind the camera.
So now every producer.
now thinks that they could do that
and it's not the case. It was really Kanye
that put the
extra on top. No, but Kanye put the
super on top
to that.
Kanye was super
Swiss Beach was popular before that.
He was, but he wasn't necessarily
fashion. Fashioned
and it all up in the limelight type of
He didn't get looked at like the goofy producer.
Okay.
Never. Not a lot. He didn't get loose that.
That's what I'm saying.
Swiss.
For nobody really,
Farrell was weird,
but nobody looked at them like,
get your goofy ass out.
Farrell and them niggas
became stars
and they own right.
You're right.
I agree.
I hate that I'm having this talk
on the back of
Mike Will versus Hit Boy
because it sounds like
I'm directly speaking about them
and I'm not,
but they inspired
my train of thought
while I was watching.
How they were standing there?
Was they standing like this?
And now I'm looking at
producer on to
Rogers, too.
Niggas with glasses?
Like, at least if I'm looking at, like, the rapper
entourage, I'm looking at 70
niggas that I know will kill me if I do
something. The producers just be
having, eh, like,
who knows? It's my cousin from Cincinnati.
That's my nigga, I mean nice on the trumpet,
nigga.
Fuck is wrong with you.
And this nigga right here
won't kill you.
What the fucking?
Yeah.
Shout to him.
You know, I'm sorry? Mike Will.
Hey, shot to them. I had an entertaining
two hours, it was fun.
I just think that Hip Boy
completely misplayed his hand, that's all.
Shout to the Hit Boy, shout to Mike Will.
So you're saying that it could have been closer?
It could have been way closer.
Based on the discography that you guys know.
Yes, Hip Boy has joints.
I think Hit Boy had a better performance
the first time he did Versals.
That too. That too.
I did. I do.
You're doing like unreleased records?
It's not the place for that.
Yeah, I think just producer verses
should be set up differently than
like I wanted to look like
it looked when Earth Wind and Fire battle
what's the name?
It's legend,
it's the couches,
it's respect up here.
It's,
and that's it,
all the extras.
I think for two producers
who aren't DJs or rappers,
even though hip does rap,
but he's becoming more known for that.
I think like a studio setting
would have been better than a club setting.
Yeah, yeah.
Even though the records are both club records,
I just think that it's,
that would have been fired.
Studio setting is fire.
Like DMX and Snoop.
Right.
That would have been fire.
Do y'all think Mike Will versus mustard would have looked different?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
It's a heavyweight fights.
That's a fight.
Yes.
It's a fight.
It's a fight.
There's not a lot of people that want to stand by mustard.
Neither one of them.
Or, yeah, or Mike Will for that matter.
But you got to go into a different, you got to a different bag if you're
going to stand in front of mustard.
Shit, them fucking, he's got records.
He got records.
You got bags?
Mustard ain't a fair fight.
Yeah.
Mustard stuff.
It's not.
I was trying to tell a hitmaker that when he was up here talking that mustard shit,
like, relax, yo.
relax you my man and you yeah you might you got joints but he's got joints but relax
that's that's especially i was saying this before not like us right and tv off and tv off and tv off
yeah oh god anyway i don't even want to think about it anymore yeah no mustard's one of them
ones he's a tough one to go against the name versus word that's a yeah it's a story that um
and he DJs and perform he knows how to put on that's like carry no my bad there's just a story
that we got to cover. People out there
I think we're afraid to talk about it. It's been all over the
news, obviously. It's all on social media.
It's related to hip hop,
and I just think it would be irresponsible not to talk about it.
Seale Smooth and Pete Rock
have been going at it.
And I'm not afraid to touch this. I don't know about you're
not afraid of this story.
Parks, can you tell us a little bit
what's going on? I feel like other blogs
are ducking it. For sure.
I know you're nervous. Just to call some
Tom Rock political connections. But I
I'm going to take it on.
You see him in Malk?
Yeah.
That's a thing a heart drop.
That nigga put the ball in.
He's supposed to call timeout.
He might like I love you now.
I'm going to go to the bad for him.
P. Rock was on Joe and Jada,
and he was asked about his relationship with C.L.
Smooth, which he replied,
it's not great.
Attributed that to jealousy,
essentially.
It's the abridged version.
Although it wasn't much deeper in that.
Seale Smooth.
has a different side of that, I know.
I think he feels wrong than the relationship,
but I don't exactly understand why.
Oh, I haven't heard CL side.
Because about two years ago,
P. Rock was like, I'm taking a high road on this.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
And it seemed like he feels wrong by Pete Rock.
I don't know if it's about money.
C.L replied and said that I'm jealous.
There's not a jealous bone in my body.
If you know me, you know who I work with.
This is how I'm making my coin today.
Like, I'm totally good with my career.
How I played out.
That couldn't be further from the truth.
Okay.
But he was unclear on what's happening.
So is it one of those like, dog, you know.
Like, if I'm talking, like, you know what you did.
Like, you and I, we both know what happened.
I ain't got to tell you.
Because that's what it sounds like you say.
No, it ain't jealousy.
I'm good.
My money's good.
I'm doing this.
I'm doing this.
It's something else.
I don't want to say it, but you know.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
That's what it feels like to me.
And I just hate that so many of these legendary groups, these legacy acts end up.
split. I'm like, what does it take for a hip hop group, duo, band, collective, whatever, to stay
together? This is a very normal thing in groups. I just don't like when it becomes public.
That's what I mean. I'm not mad at the beef. I'm mad at it being
out. Yeah. I'm mad at one of the group members, not holding it down no matter what y'all went through.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm glad we were able to take on that story because
shit, that's my slogan, beef. We can hold it down. Whatever we're going through. What the fuck
y' y'all got an album out for? I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I don't want to hear from the legends.
And all these years later on to P. Rock and CL smooth.
Yeah, that's what got me.
Come on, man.
It was like sacred figures for me.
Listen, but speaking of battles, right?
Because we were talking about the verses.
Speaking of battles, here's what I got for y'all.
I have T. Rex speaking about a dispute that he's having with Beasley
about the battle where he had the seizure.
Okay.
I thought this was pretty interesting.
I'm gonna play the place show up at times look I sue y'all cause of that I'm still
waiting on some motherfucking on a um a grievance appreciation check man we ain't
talking about Gucci until they come they ain't talking about doing it again into that come we're
ain't something a grievance check up and ain't the rap your contracts say you for you to show up
I supposed to got my money before I walked in the building you are all in the power
party caffeine no more so what I'm waiting on my money for not supposed to have that on the
walk in but see that's again being a friend with Beasley I let you get away with you
But what I'm not gonna let you get away with is not taking care of me before we handle this Dichigadi shit if not I'll be battling everywhere else
Business is business right if I messed up on the contract and I'm gonna say I can't battle in the Wales right?
All right so you gotta fix your part too and I'm handling niggas the way they handle me
No, Joe Biden
It's business
Friendship is friendship. We gotta separate them you saying yo damn your tea what's up? Yo, look, I need y'all to come shoot this and I need you to
and I'm talking to you like a friend.
So I'm giving, so now I'm getting friendship love from you.
But then when it turns around and you need me,
I'm talking like a businessman.
That's a talent Beasley got.
He could turn it off.
I'm saying it's business for them to say,
shine care, battle, to wear into this, right?
So it's business to say, until you give me some money,
I ain't going back on that stage.
This is really, really interesting to me.
He's always been like that, though, right?
So shout out of Rex.
I mean, if there was a battle that didn't happen that he did,
and like he feels like if you gave him, if you paid him initially,
you paid him to show up.
And he felt like if the battle did not happen,
not because it's my fault, that's on y'all.
Y'all still got to pay me.
And it was a situation like that before where if you were,
want me to do it again, you have to rebook me.
So Rex has always taken the stance
of business. He said, I showed up, I did my part.
I came to the building, I was prepared.
Whatever happened, the battle couldn't happen.
That has nothing to do with me.
That's on y'all. So if you want me to,
now if you're asking me to come back and re-battle
him, you got to pay me
the other portion that you owe me, and then you
have to re-book me. So I have two questions
with that, because one, you're saying, whatever happened is not
on me, it's on y'all, but he had the seizure.
Yeah, I'm talking about another incident.
Oh, the other incident.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think that's, but why this
is intriguing is because T-Rex
had a seizure mid
battle. Yes.
And my understanding is that he hasn't been
paid. Because
he goes on to say that
Smack, Beasley
had madship wrong with
his contract. They should have had EMTs
on the scene. They should have had
us. They said,
he said, when I got there, the building with
past capacity already and I'm there
with 20 niggers. By law, you're not
even supposed to let us in the building. Oh, you
this way.
That's what he said.
No, I'm just saying he's saying that.
Go ahead, go ahead.
I guess he's just trying to talk in his legal jargon to make his point.
I just think it's interesting morally.
It is.
A thousand percent.
You know, y'all know it's not my necessary.
If you come to the event and have a heart attack so you don't finish the battle
and I haven't paid you yet.
That's where I'm stuck at.
But that's his point.
His point is I shouldn't open my mouth until I got my money.
because I don't know what their contract say,
but he just said,
the contract says when I show up,
I'm supposed to get paid.
You know how when you used to do gigs,
nigger don't even get out the car
to the middle to get that money.
Well, that's why this point is moot.
They changed the contract at one point.
They changed the contract at one point
if you're not able to perform or if you choke.
I don't know about that one,
but at one point, like if you choke,
remember a lot of niggas is choking,
you're not getting your other half
or we're deducting some money.
But he just said that, I don't know it.
But he just said, yo, my contract states
when I show up,
Yes, that's true.
Yes.
Cool.
If that is the case because we boys, I'm like, yo, just pay me later.
Because we boys.
If it's strangers as a promoter in Oklahoma that I don't know, I'm going to get my money before I get out the car before I walk in the building.
Okay, so you come in the building unpaid.
Unpaid.
And you started this battle unpaid.
Then you had a major health condition and we're unable to finish the battle unpaid.
Yes.
Is it totally off base for you?
Beasley to think
we have, we got to do
this battle because I still
got to pay you. You didn't finish
the battle. I have
your money and you didn't finish the battle.
I want to give it to you. So finish the battle.
So, I think
that's what their discrepancy is.
But he's saying it's other shit that I've done
for you that went around with the
contract states. So you can't
have it on both ways. You can't have it that
when it benefits you, we can circumvent
the contract. But then when it benefits
you, we got to stick to the letter of the law or the contract.
You can't have it both ways.
And it happens like that when niggas that have leverage.
A lot of times the boss or the nigga with the most money or whatever the case it may be
will have the leverage and pull that.
But it's nobody's job to make T. Rex go by proper protocol.
That's not Beasley's job.
That's T. Rex's job.
So if he came in the building and started rapping without getting paid, then you can't later
say I was supposed to get paid before I came in the building.
I agree with that.
Even if you look past it for the friend aspect
and what you're expecting is somebody to also
look out. Look out.
No. That's what you're expecting.
I did you. Basically, I did you a solid. I did right by the
you're shaking your head, no, but this is what he did.
If my contract says I don't get
paid, I mean, I get paid on the walk-in
or I don't even walk in without getting paid.
Like, I've been the battles with my brother.
Ars is not going on that stage until he got that
money until that money is taken care of.
And if you do now go on that stage, for whatever reason,
prior to that money getting, you getting that money,
yeah, you already stepped in there.
Now, the quote-unquote, right thing to do is to still pay you.
But they don't owe you that, though.
That is just the right thing to do.
It's not true, man.
It's not true, right.
Rex thing is that I had to seize you on the stage.
Give me something.
Like, nigga, look out, because I had to seize you on the stage,
look out.
Now, if you want to go to legal route by saying that, yo, hey, you didn't complete the battle so I don't have to pay you, then I'm going to go to legal route and say, well, these are the things that we're missing here.
If you want to go that route, these are the things that are missing.
My contract says this.
You didn't do that.
I only looked out because you're my man.
And if you want to go that route, if you want to say, I didn't complete.
I'm with him.
Is that the order that it went?
Bro, I'm at a contract.
Is that the order that it was?
Yes.
That I let the rec side.
Yeah.
Rexfield.
Rex feels like, you know, I can't.
Rex feels like, you
I came in here,
you know how I usually do it.
Rex always gets his other.
He gets his deposit
and always gets his other half
when he walks in.
He said, I didn't even do that.
And he said,
just because I have a seizure,
you still in your heart
as my man, as my 50s case,
look out.
Now, if you're talking about
contractual that you didn't
complete the battle,
so I'm not paying you,
then let's go based off the contract.
So that's a...
I want you.
Because if you're saying,
go off the battle,
because you didn't complete the battle,
fine.
We'll do that.
I'll eat that.
But now,
you have to,
rebook me again then. If you want me to battle
again, we have to die. And that's
what Rex is saying. And I'm with
that. Oh, hell, y'all. You're crazy as hell.
I'm with that. If we're going by the
contract, we're going by the contract. I don't agree with the whole
rebooking thing neither. So in either of the outcomes
and I'm not going to drag this, because I don't know how important
this is the people out there. But it's a business
combo. You know, we can still have it.
In any of these
in any of these other scenarios,
B's gets fucked in. Because
if he does things the right way here,
here's your money before you walk in.
You have a seizure or a heart attack.
You can't finish the battle.
Bees don't get a battle.
The crowd don't get a battle.
I have to rebook you to get the battle I paid for already.
Okay, cool.
Or you could come in here.
You have your seizure.
Now I'm your man.
So I give you the money anyway.
And now I still got to rebook a battle and pay you again?
No, I thought he wasn't he saying if you look to me out?
Yeah, just give me something.
And now we could do that.
I'm not talking about this until I get some work.
My biggest thing is what does the contract say?
Yeah.
That's my biggest thing.
If the contract says,
yo,
you have to finish your battle in a certain manner,
like Flip said,
where you don't choke or whatever the case may be,
and then you get paid?
If I have a heart attack and then my man looks at me
and says, what does the contract say?
I'm going to punch you in your face.
Cool.
But if I have a seizure...
Because if I have a heart attack,
I don't care what the contract says.
If you're my man...
Nigger, send it.
Send it.
I'm fucked up.
And I don't know that T. Rex is fucked up.
And in the event you don't, we don't talk about shit else unless we talk about some bread first.
Sure.
Which is what T. Rex is saying.
And that's what he's saying.
And that's what I'll never be on the stage again.
Unless you have to book me now.
I'm not doing that battle.
I'm not doing shit else.
We're going to talk about some bread first.
And he brought the Sean shit too.
Yeah.
Like, Sean was able to go nowhere until he completed a certain amount of battles for you guys.
Contractually.
Right.
Honor this contract first.
Okay, fine.
And until we honor this, we ain't got nothing to talk about.
And I'm with Rex on that sense.
Would you do that, Joe?
If you have somewhere to show up, you got paid for it, and then something happened.
And let's remove the relationship off the table.
Something happened.
Would you tell the company that, you have to rebook me, or would you just go up there, like, when you're feeling better,
or whatever happens and just do the obligation?
I mean.
Save somebody that has it.
Save it's a company that has it.
You got to department.
I don't do business like that.
I would complete the gift.
You would complete.
I'm completing the job.
I'm not going to make anybody rebook me.
Not to say that that's the wrong way.
For me, yeah, I'm not.
But if they plan with you and not lasting relationship with.
But if they plan with you and not taking care of you, then, okay, if we only business, then we only business.
You have to book me now.
Now we're not talking this for you.
And that's what he said.
And that's what Rex is saying.
I'm not mad at that.
Okay.
So then the relationship is over, period.
That's what it sounds like that.
The relationship was over once I had a heart attack and you told me fuck out of here.
or my bread.
Honestly, if you're my man,
the relationship,
the friendship is over at that point.
Well, I don't think he said,
fuck out of that.
I think Bisi just wants you to come
completely back.
I don't think,
but we,
I just want you to come back
for free and do another battle.
If somebody came to pod
and had a health condition
and had to leave for half the day,
there's not a world
where I would call them and say,
I'm talking half the day.
I agree.
Exactly.
That's just,
that's not who I am.
It sounds crazy.
Exactly.
And that's what I was about to say
when you took the other.
side of it. I thought you was taking the other side of it at first. Like, yo, dog,
and for me, we gentlemen, right? So we're going to play a gentleman's game. We're going to
conduct business as gentlemen until I see that we're not gentlemen anymore. So once it's not
gentlemanly, now all bets is off. We're going to stick to the letter out of law.
And that's what I split with that was. And so that's how I conduct business in my real life.
Like, dog, we, we, we're gentlemen. That's why I split that that was the order.
until you show me that we're not.
Because if that's the order, then, yeah.
Rex is right.
Like, yeah.
All right.
Okay.
Oh, this is how we playing now.
Okay, cool.
Sure.
I don't want to go back to the Grammys, but Will I am who I listen to.
This is probably one of the last years where it's only.
Will I am says this is one of the last years that will have human interaction,
so you better enjoy it.
And I don't think he's far off.
He ain't far off.
And the reason why I'm here at the Red Carpet at the Grammys, 2026,
because I predict that this one.
is probably one of the last years where it's only humans on the red carpet.
Oh, okay.
Just like if you were to go out and absorb what the world was like in 2022,
2022 is one of the last years where it was only humans driving cars on the streets.
Now there's Waymo's on the streets.
And just like there's Waymo's on the streets where there's no human driving the vehicles,
fully autonomous, level five autonomy, there will be level five artistry.
And that level five artistry will be.
agents and robots and that agent
and robot will be here on the red carpet
before 2030 and AP
would be like hey whatever the name of that bot
is and then it will be telling you like
the things that it's done and what it's working on
I mean yep
he's not all the way wrong
when I went to Atlanta
for InvestFest
we don't have it as much up here
bro they got them
cabs are in abundance
in Atlanta we don't really got them up here like that
down there that shit was normal that shit was normal
That shit was normal down there.
I was like, damn.
I saw the clickbaitiness of that interview,
and I didn't watch it for that reason.
But I agree, because he said
where it's only humans.
That's a very important distinction.
Yeah, they make this thing like there ain't going to be no humans
and it's all robots.
And I think with the reality of how it will look sooner than later
is more like the girl that did the interview with Gail King
being on the red carpet.
Because that's the reality of AI as we deal with it now
It's just some dude using technology as a likeness visually and audibly.
But it's really a dude or a female creating the shit.
And that will be the person that's representing on the carpet.
Lastly, with the Grammys, did you all what Wayne had to say?
Carol G.
Just pull it up.
Just see what Wayne had to say about it.
I got it.
I forgot about Carol G and that whole girls that look at the Grammy.
Oh, yeah, we did.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
Wayne.
He said, congrats to all the nominees and winners.
wasn't included, as usual.
I got to work harder, as usual.
One time for my slum, Bill Belichick.
Always.
Bill Belichick, who they are not letting
in the Hall of Fame.
Yeah.
At all.
Which I...
Now.
Which I understand.
For the first ballot.
First ballot.
No, you don't.
You can't make sense of that.
I'm not saying I would vote that way,
but if they're saying, look,
we got to give you a little tap-tap
because we believe you cheated,
and so we're not going to vote
for you the first round.
But no one has said that.
That's just what we're guessing.
And that's what I'm saying, I understand.
Then you get it.
I think you should say it on business to say that, though.
Yeah.
Yeah, I still don't get it.
I still don't get it.
Yo, dog.
How many rings I got, seven?
Eight.
Bill has eight.
Eight.
He has eight.
Two has a DC.
I cheated.
I cheated.
All of them?
Like, how many do you got to cheat to get punished, though?
Prove I cheat it.
Stay in a business.
Say it.
Otherwise, you look like a coward.
I agree.
I agree.
I agree.
I'm just saying I understand the logic of it.
Like, again, like, I think he's a dick.
You know why you can't defend that logic?
You don't think they're going to do that to tell him, do you?
That's an interesting question.
No.
And that was the answer.
The answers no.
Would you hold time?
And this is a football question for you because I don't know the answer.
Would Tom be held as accountable for a cheating scandal as the coach?
They were deflating balls for him.
They said that he was the one that was, yeah.
So he doesn't have plausible deniability.
He can't be like, they did that shit.
I ain't done with it.
He could, maybe.
I'm just saying that might be the reason why they might justify it.
But if he could, then Bill could.
No, wasn't that part of the ball boy scandal where it was Tom's person?
It was Tom's.
I'm asking because I don't know.
Okay, then yeah, then they should do it to Tom too.
Tom is of First Baller Hall of Fame.
For sure.
They will burn that Hall down like that.
Here he becomes available.
He's going to be the first name.
Fuck first ballot.
Unanimous.
But we got Tom and who else.
We got Tom.
And it's for that reason that the rest of that it just goes.
Then you're right.
If they're going to hold a double standard.
He's a dick.
Bill Belal.
check is a dick and I think they try to punish him like
aha you've been a dick to us
and this is our chance for to get back
The voters are oppressed primarily
and he was not a press darling by any stretch
The imagination. I mean okay but Robert
Kraft
A press darling though compared to Bill
Joe he's got personality he's one of the only
owners that really you see
visibly out doing shit
He'd be outside, nigga getting his dick
Anyway
The reporters I spoke
He got caught in the rubbing tug
You know what?
You know what?
Turnover preach, yeah.
Robert Crash should be an old affair.
Of course.
He should.
I agree with two parts, though,
staying on a business part.
Because I've talked to a couple
reporters who have said,
they weren't voters,
but they said that the voters they spoke to,
so this is secondhand.
That's what I've heard to.
Yeah, but they've said very clearly
that that's the reason.
Yeah, so stay in business.
I respect that.
Yeah.
That's the deal with Pete Rose.
We were talking about something
before I derailed us.
Wayne.
Wayne.
Wayne.
Wayne.
Wayne.
Do you all agree?
That he was left out?
Well, Wayne was supposed to be off.
Stop.
Carter 6.
What way it was supposed to be?
Respectfully.
I love Louis.
And I think he's been absolutely killing it in features.
He said that album should have been nominated?
He wasn't included in the Grammy.
Chance has a fight.
But he did say, I need to work harder.
Make a better album.
Politically correct?
As usual.
He said this is a normal thing.
He's been nominated over 20-something times.
He has five Gramies.
So he's saying, I'm under-
He's underappreciated by the Grammys.
I will absolutely admit that.
I don't think this was the year for that.
This was not one of them times.
At all.
Respectfully.
I mean, I forgot that album came out, and that's probably for the best.
How many grimmies does Wayne have?
Five, five.
Which is not bad, by the way.
Take a bow.
Five is a lot of fucking grimmies.
I mean, motherfuckers got none.
Take your five.
Grab your glass cleaner, your windex, whatever you clean it with.
Wax it.
Yeah, go, you got it.
You got five of the motherfuckers.
Yeah.
You got five.
What you?
I don't know how anybody can hear that album.
No need to be glutton.
Right.
Right.
You can hear you.
You did it.
No need to be glutton.
I'm not going to hold you, yo.
I think it's something there, yo.
Even when the Kendrick announcement, you had to say something.
Kendrick wins.
It wasn't until that, like, I think it's something.
I could be reaching, but I think this is a Kendrick thing.
I think it's just keep seeing Kendrick win.
Every time Kendrick pop up with something here, come Wayne.
Okay.
I don't know.
I'm just, it could be something else there.
I'm not entirely mad at that sake.
I'd be trying to see it through.
I can't because they, it's another level that they just were on musically.
But I'd be trying to see it through the eyes of someone who was the best rapper in the world universally.
That was the, and then now you have to look at somebody else kind of be that and how you'll behave as you watch that.
But not just that.
It would have to be tough.
Look, look, not just that.
I try to have some grace.
While I was the best rapper, I didn't get none of what you getting like.
this. That's not fair. But I'm just saying look from those eyes though while I was
no one in the world. No but that's no musician in Grammy history sand Stevie Wonder has
gotten what Kendrick has got. I'm not just talking about the Grammys. I'm talking about like
Super Bowl. I'm talking about there's things but for Wayne I ran hip hop I had hip hop on my back for
years still unfair and I'm just let me let me let me just get to my point what I'm trying to
say I'm looking at it from Wayne's point of view where I was the man I'm
I'm no longer the man.
And now I'm watching the man and y'all are holding him up in a way that I've never been held up.
It could be some type of, it could be something there.
I think we've always held up, Wayne, as one of the goats, as anybody within the culture or commentary on hip-hop.
If you don't, I don't really take you seriously.
That being said, most of his major run was mixtape shit.
And unfortunately, that does not allow you to be qualified in these categories, at least at that time, specifically now with the,
Chance record 10 years ago
has changed a little bit
but I'm not even talking about
mixtape shit I'm talking about Carter 2, Carter 3
Wayne I'm talking about what I was still
Fish Green Street records on the commercial records
No Carter 3 Wayne was something
No I'm talking about talent wise
I'm talking about terms of attention mainstream attention
To Parks's point when you start
putting Wayne as the best
rapper in the world
The Grammy board might not be listening to
Mix tapes that solidified that position
I agree not just that when you start
talking about Kendrick Lamar as a
representation of hip hop and as a
representation of
black America, he and Little Wayne
are on opposite sides of that spectrum, bro,
to anybody with eyes.
He also won Best Rap album for Carter 3.
Card of 3 was it? It was represented.
He was representing really... And rap solo
performance for a millie, best rap song for a millie.
He was represented when he was supposed to be represented.
At the height of his career.
But to ICE's point, most
artists still feel slighted. They still don't feel like
they got enough. Yeah, that's all I'm. Whether it's fair
Because I agree with y'all.
I think it's apples and oranges on the mixtape versus the mainstream.
Does how an artist, does how an artist age matter to y'all?
How an artist presents themselves, bro.
No, just, I don't want to be disrespectful.
But a lot of people, when they think of little Wayne, they start thinking about his issues, the troubles, all of that stuff.
People will be scared to put him on the stage sometimes.
Because you never know which Wayne is going to show up on the stage.
I'm not being disrespectful to the man at all.
We love Little Wayne.
but, dog, the Grammy board
got something to think about.
That was the conversation around the Super Bowl.
That was the conversation.
Way and go do a comedy album, man.
Real quick, I just read it.
It says Drake only got five Grammys.
It's kind of surprised it to me.
Drake don't fuck with them, right?
It's interesting.
Young money in general.
Just don't, like, five for Grimmies.
Don't fuck with them.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
And Nikki has zero.
Nicky is that's what I'm.
To me, if anybody got a gripe is Nikki.
I mean, Nikki deserves.
Nikki and Drake.
Nicky not having Grammys is crazy.
She deserves it.
How many a year got?
Oh, he's on the all time.
He's on an all-time list.
If that's the case, then Drake and Nicky have fights, for sure.
Well, Kyle also has producer credit.
I mean, there's a lot.
Yeah, he got.
I'm just saying, Drake and Nicky have a fight for sure.
If Drake only has five and Nikki has zero over the last 15 years, they have a fight.
Fact check, Drake only having five grams.
I just Googles it.
I just go to flip just said.
I think that's accurate.
Flip said it's true.
I'm great with you.
Drake has won five Grammy Awards from 55 nominations throughout his career.
See.
That's a problem.
That's sick.
That's a problem.
But, I mean, honestly, I think that's part of what made the Grammys course correct.
Maybe.
Yeah, it's a good point.
They got a lot wrong.
That's a good point.
That regime got a lot wrong for a lot of years.
That's a great point.
So, yeah, this is part of the mistake.
5 nominations and I only won five awards.
He had a lot of joy.
If I was homeboy from the Grammys, I would just go drop 10 off at Drake Doors.
On the strength.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, forgot about.
We're going to make up.
We're going to make these up.
You ever see Drake at the Grammys again?
Ever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now you will.
Yeah, now you will.
If you get that 10, you got to drop that 10 in his little.
No, if he make up with Universal, like, I think if he and Universal, like, get back into
Chummy Chumland and he put out a good project, I think they'll make it up to him like,
yo, you just going to run it.
Yeah, they're going to run it.
Go ahead.
Yeah, take this.
I'm shocked that John said that.
I think so.
I'm shocked you don't say that
I don't think he'll ever make up with them
But I said if he makes up with them
And he puts out a good project
Next year, Grammys
Do you think Drake will be there
Representing Iceman?
No
Depends.
No, I don't think next year
Depends on the music.
I think that's a solid no
I think it depends on how to music wins
I feel like next year
Even if he get 55 nominations
He got to stay out home
And I don't think that's what
And let me be clear
I don't think they're going to nominate him
That much after that last Grammy speech
Where he won
when he was up there holding a war
telling people, yo, these don't mean shit.
He literally was saying,
yo, to everybody out there, keep working,
you're winning.
As long as millions of people are saying
your lyrics, word for word, that's a win.
This don't mean nothing.
When you stand there and say that,
they're like, all right, cool, next.
Yo, go drop 10 of them chis off.
If y'all ain't, if y'all ain't short me and shafts me,
I wouldn't even be a bit of that shit.
I agree.
But the fact that you make that stance.
Now I almost want to know what songs
Drake won for the only have.
That's different.
That's disrespectful.
Yeah.
Hotline, boy.
Best rap album, take care.
Oh, I never mind.
Best rap song, wait for you.
It says, The Monster.
I don't know the fuck that.
They gave a Grammy for the Tim's joint.
The best rap song, Hotline, Bling.
Okay, that doesn't surprise me.
That's a fact.
They couldn't lie about that one.
Yeah, that shit was a suddenable.
Best rap song, God's playing,
and that's melodic rap performance.
Wait for you.
Two thousand.
No, no, no.
The five awards were, take care.
Album.
Album.
Flip just said that.
Rap song and rap song performance both Hotline Bling.
And rap song, rap performance, both gospel.
And rap song.
And the monster, too.
I don't know why they got it up there.
All right, it's fine.
It's fine.
He won't be there.
Five is.
Yeah, that's disrespectful.
That's crazy.
He shouldn't, yeah, he should.
It should be more.
Without a question.
Nicky's been nominated 12 times with zero.
Even from best new artists all the way up.
Yeah, that's crazy to me.
That's off.
That's off.
That's off.
Yeah.
Yeah, but that's a tough.
The list was going around to all the rappers to never win a Grammy.
It's a tough list.
It's a tough list of emcees.
I mean, Nyes had a long time without a Grammy.
Yeah, he did.
Yeah.
Nyes went a long time.
Long time.
Jay's got a lot.
Jay had the most until the 70th.
Kendrick got 27.
Kendrick just passed.
Jay like the Grammy should kind of add like, they'll never do it,
but add like a retroactive Grammy.
I agree.
Hey, they just did Eve.
We fucked up.
We missed this one?
Yeah, we missed this.
We missed this one, yeah, for sure.
And that's where it's something.
them all-time career joints like the one share got is going to come like the lifetime achievement one true
there's some rappers that don't get that soon um lonely lonely cherry sherry shepard is the way the same
courtesy is kelly clarkson to announce show ooh we getting tea because uh sherry shepherd's show ended
kelly clarkson's show ended uh sherry shepherd after four seasons uh kelly clarkson after seven seasons
sherry took over after windy right sherry took over after windy and had signed a contract that had her
working through the 25-26 season.
Okay.
So a lot of fans, to a lot of fans, this was unexpected.
Lonnie Love says, Sherry should have been given the courtesy of announcing her show's end
instead of an article announcing it, just like Kelly got to announce her shows end.
It's not the real, which was a panel show, but this was a solo-hosted show.
Or the production company could have at least made a joint announcement as a producer and host.
seeing canceled stamped all over your picture is depressing
especially when the show was having good ratings
only onward and upward from here
Sherry Sheppard.
She wrote that.
No, Lonnie Love wrote that.
Lonnie Love wrote that.
I agree.
Somebody said many shows canceled.
I can tell you, you always want the opportunity
to say goodbye to your audience.
You always want the opportunity to announce it on your own terms
to frame it the way you want.
I mean, I thought the production company did a decent job
of saying, hey, we believe in this show still.
We want to put it on other platforms.
want to explore, you know, opportunities to put it elsewhere, maybe stream it, maybe make it a podcast.
I don't know what their options are.
That might just be bullshit.
But regardless, they're saying we still love sharing, believe in her, which is a good thing.
But the artists or the presenter, the host, whatever, should be able to say that themselves.
I agree with Lonnie 100% on that.
You said the show was contracted to 25, 26, right?
Yeah, and they're still going to air.
They're still going to air.
They didn't just clip it.
They just said, we're not renewing.
They're still going to air, yeah.
Which is all the more reason why she should be able to go on the show.
I feel like, look, y'all.
Yeah, they did that wrong.
Lauren LaRosa said that Jennifer, she got from a source,
Jennifer Hudson show is the next cancellation.
Maybe the next cancellation.
And I'm tagging that as gossip.
I need more than a Lauren, Lauren DeRosen.
No, I fuck work.
You know, I'm bad with that.
But, yeah, I need more than a source told me Jennifer Hudson
is on the chopping blog.
Yeah, nah.
Yeah, no, I'm a hold off on that.
Yeah, but I-
Even though I told you all that.
Like Lauren is a
I respect her and I fuck well
I'm sure she has her sources
I'm gonna wait to get more facts
I got you for why I say anything about it
But I'm worried
But I didn't tell you
Motherfuckers that
The spirit tunnel was losing spirits
You said that
For real
You said that
But that was when I thought
Like some of the D-List celebrities was there
But this A-List niggas did
And the spirit tunnel is still
And I'm gonna miss it
I'm not going to lie to you.
I'm going to miss it.
The spirit tunnel.
You should do the show.
Yeah.
I should do what show.
So you can do the spirit tunnel.
Joe button.
You would be good in spirit tunnel.
Pump it up.
You know it's good.
Pump up.
You know it's going to pump up.
Funny shit.
I've seen skills.
Do the spirit tunnel.
So I pulled the phone close to my face to watch and make a fool of himself.
But he didn't.
He was going to be.
He smoked that shit, Conno.
He held it down.
Okay, okay.
So then by the end, I was a fan.
Shut up a skill, too.
Grame.
Award winner skills, yes.
He's scaling that shit a little bit.
I would look like a total dup for something.
That album's pretty tough too.
I got two left feet.
I mean, it's spoken words.
Spoken word.
It's interesting.
Yeah, yeah.
Grammy.
Yeah, he got the game.
Skills cracked and cold.
I've been saying I want to do that album for 17 years,
sneak in, get that spoken word.
Well, took the words right my mouth.
Some spoken word artists was on fire this today.
I've seen people posting on social media very upset with the skills got the spoken
word. They basically were like we've been doing this as a craft
for years and now rappers who
don't make it make a spoken word album
is a kind of backdoor way to get a Grammy and get the recognition
that they wanted as rapper.
What the fuck?
Got him!
I mean, I'm not saying that's true and I love skills. I'm just
saying that's a big backlash in the poetry
community. It is rap. I would only
need, I would want to know, I would
only need to hear that from people
in that community that have been nominated.
Well, it's a new category. That's
problem. They're basically saying like they finally made a category for us and then here
come the rappers to take, you know, to just say they rap slow. It is fucked up.
Is it? Is it? But I love it. I'm on, I'm on the side. I'm not trying to be funny.
I'm not trying to be a dick. Is it? I think it's fucked up.
Take the beat away. What's right? If you take, if you take, you, you heard Kanye at
um, deaf poetry. Mm-hmm. That man, I promise. I'm, she's so self-conscious.
Bro, he, he, he, it's a poem. When you add the beat and you add the, the, the, the, the,
I don't know that shit y'all do
then it becomes a song but
if you take the beat away and all
No so why would they not be
Correct for being nominated
It's still my same talent
That's what I'm saying I'm saying I'm saying I'm saying I'm saying I agree with the gripe
You wrapped over beat your whole career
No I didn't
I might write
This would be like what if Taylor Swift dropped a rap album
Out of tomorrow we'd be pissed if she won't
fucking best rap album
Yes we would
I would
No I'm saying it's not the same
It's exactly
the spoken word, there are a lot of rappers that are poets.
You don't know if they're a poet or not,
that the category is brand new.
So my entry is here.
I am a poet and I'm a rapper too.
You can't just necessarily put me in one box.
You're making sense.
I'm just telling you I would be mad.
I would be mad, but I'm also happy for skills.
I'm having real happy.
Hey, and I plan to follow right up.
Next year, spoken word album.
This is his second one or third one too.
It's his first a win, I think.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a second or third spoken word of him.
Yeah.
He's been doing this for a little bit.
So let me take it off skills for a minute
because I like skills, I respect skills
as a rapper, as a ghost writer, as a poet.
You know, this isn't about him for me.
But I do, there is a difference between just taking your rap,
slowing it down.
Like, Spoken War has its own culture, its own genre,
it has his own way of performing.
That I find when rappers do it,
they literally just, like, like you gave a great example.
When Kanye is doing all, the all falls down,
that first all falls down verse,
it's very much like a rap verse,
very traditional rap verse,
even in terms of the rhyme scheme.
spoken word artists go in a lot of directions.
It's more complicated, it's more nuanced.
And I,
it gets a lot.
People, to me, that's the heart of spoken word,
especially since 2000.
Take your pentameter somewhere else, man.
Let me ask you get his fucking W.
And right.
Different flows.
But I don't want to take it off him because he's the one I won.
I'm saying I understand the gripe outside of skills.
I don't want to make, because if I, if I defend this,
those you're not, those are niggas of spoken word.
I love skills too.
Now you want to get enough.
Get your fucking.
Get your fucking ass.
Look over there.
Let me tell you something.
This got it done.
In 2002, Black Lily, Fives Foggling.
O2.
O2, bad.
Jee.
Y'all can laugh at that knocktrop if you want.
99.
Yeah, that's 99.
It was probably 02.
99.
99.
99 was lit.
My 95, right?
You were speaking easy.
Boy, keep going back with him.
Yo, duh.
Oh, God, man.
This is his third one.
Every man better have that in his head.
Just ready at all times.
The year you could freely speak about and before then.
Yes.
Oh, sure.
You fuck around and say that wrong year if you want.
Oh, my Lord.
The 90s, I'm Scott Free, man.
Yeah, same.
You don't have a spirited conversation.
Look, man.
What you said you did in 2017?
Loving you.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it.
It's all that I want to do.
Mark how things going with your spirit of conversation?
Great, man.
I ain't heard nothing about Tosa logo in a while.
Yeah, man. Life is good, man.
You know? Let her back in the house.
She let her back in the house.
Yeah, I'm back in the house.
Life is good, man. You know, Barry life is.
Y'all know how it is. Being coupled up, partnered up, enjoying life.
I ain't got no complaints. How about y'all?
Amazing. Amazing.
Silky smooth.
That's great.
Peaceful.
Yeah.
Be peaceful.
happy, happy and in love,
no fights, no arguments.
I even just randomly, though,
the old day, you ain't too chubby, man.
That's awful.
You know what?
You're all right.
You're all right.
I ain't gonna hold you.
Unprompted.
You ain't had bad.
Hey, when we aren't,
I really can't see life without you,
y'all, I got to be dead ass.
I got to be dead ass about it, man.
I do love your stupid-ass head.
I saw the clip with you and your wife of...
Oh, I was about to say they're on her ass on the internet.
Wait, why?
Play the clip.
Play the Mark clip.
See, I thought that Mark wife ain't playing with him no more
since Tosa Loco and all that shit.
That's really what the bottom line is.
So she is really serving it to him on multiple issues.
One, the last name during marriage thing,
she put belt the ass with him.
She spanked him on that one?
belt the ass he lost his voice he muted up he didn't say a word and the sharing
sharing your uh location your location digitally so much she muted him up she muted him up there
ended him he didn't really have much to say on that topic even you have a comedic wit I'm talking
again it don't want the voice come back no it's it was bad you know what we're doing this
one in the first two weeks of the show asking why we don't have the same last name
I think people also don't realize that much of the world does not change their name.
We also have to think about the history of why people change their names because you had dominion over me, the children, the house.
Like, we were all part of your property, essentially.
So there's different levels of location sharing.
You let I get that off.
It's completely new to me.
It's not even something that we ever considered.
I don't share my location with anyone.
I just don't need to do that.
I don't want to do that.
I don't want to feel like I'm being so now.
So when you go out with your girlfriend, and you know, you know, you'll go out to the spot.
You mean, body you.
Like, why do you need to track me?
I just told you where I'm.
Oh shit
And don't ask again
You say this with your chest
Stop
Now I get why you come in here
And turn up on us, nigga
You can't tell everybody at all
All the shit you want to say at home
You say to us
Flip, shut the fuck up
Flynn
I mean you're smart
I get abused at home
And take it out
That's what they do
The abuser turned
The she does play
She does not play
So
The clip first of all
The clip is from our podcast
In this thing together
Patreon check it out
Check it out fire.
I gave responses to both of those things.
I just thought they were less spicy for the real.
First of all, we both agree on the last name thing.
I don't want my wife to have my last name.
Really?
No, I don't.
You know, I...
Why?
You talked about it on your show.
She got a bigger foot to him and then she put it down.
Fuck, I've never...
Why don't want my wife to have my last name?
Take her last name.
Park for real.
I agree.
Did she?
Thank you, Parks.
No, what's the reason?
I don't...
You can't just say you agree.
The marriage...
I can say that I agree.
No.
You're saying you're saying you...
agree because what your wife
no disrespect your wives are saying that
I don't want to take your last name is that why you agree
because you don't want to have to fight before I met my wife
I didn't want somebody to have my last year and so what's the reason
I encourage my wife to keep her last yearn't have to
don't have to don't kick me either don't kick me and you don't
he got a 60-year prostate he might but I think it's
I think it's fine for her to maintain her own
because she wants to okay she wants to
she actually wanted to take my last name and you told him not to
I said you don't do that and
You know, these married niggas
We're getting up
You get married
And get to get more
They get married
You can't say shit
Because they're married
Exactly
You can't say nothing
My mom doesn't have my dad's last name
Nigger what the fuck
My mom doesn't have my dad's last name
I grew up in this
This is like normal
My sisters don't have their
Huspins like
They got it
They got it
We just don't want that
It's like a Buffalo law
Why should she have my last name
Tell me that
Because you got a dick
No no
Okay
You reversed a lot of shit.
I don't know why.
Traditionally, in tradition, right?
Wife takes the husband's last name, correct?
Would you say that?
In America, yeah.
And there are a lot of traditions.
What country are we in?
Yeah, yeah, but I'm just saying, my point is there's other ways to do it,
and I don't want to do that.
And I don't see any reason.
I don't see any reason to do that.
No, that's true.
You know what I mean?
What reason would that?
What I'm saying?
Before I ever met my wife, I was, I was, before I'm saying, before I ever met my wife,
didn't want my future wife to have my last name.
Only the children, though.
The children.
We share names.
We have hyphenate.
My children are hyphenated.
All my children are hyphenated for that reason.
Because they're both of ours.
It's not my property.
Did you do anything else traditional?
What's your marriage?
I see why you go to karate?
I wasn't doing it.
I see why you go boxing?
Them bright, niggas.
You think I'm talking about?
What?
I'm saying, my kids are hyphenated.
That's his thing.
Okay.
Did your wife hyphenate or no?
No.
And I'm not hyphenated.
Neither of us are hyphenated.
But the children are.
You have your father's name, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
But the children are hyphenated.
And my father has, I mean, like, tradition.
Yeah.
Yes.
My father also has the name of his slave owner.
Like, you can break a tradition.
All right, all right.
Just because you have a tradition.
Just because you have a tradition.
Just because you got a tradition.
I'm going to hear that.
My question was, did y'all get married at a church or anything like that?
No.
Did y'all do anything else traditional in terms of your marriage or your wedding?
Jump over the broom?
No, but I'm not against tradition.
I'm saying I just don't believe that every tradition.
you have to keep going.
Just that one.
You just didn't like that.
No, there's other traditions, I'm sure we don't believe in as well.
I'm just saying, like, just because you've been doing something for a long time doesn't mean you have to keep doing it because some traditions aren't healthy.
Some traditions don't work for everybody.
So you're, so you are technically the end of your lineage.
Well, no.
No.
The kid got both last names.
My son has and daughters.
Not the same.
Sure.
Then, I mean, I mean, there are other hills in my house.
I mean, in my family, I have siblings.
Yeah, okay.
You know what I mean?
But y'all.
are the last line of hills.
Well, no.
And solely hills.
I'm saying I have siblings
whose last,
whose children do.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yes, if I were an only child,
then yes, it'd be the end of my lineage,
which I'm okay with.
I'm okay with it.
The hills go back like four generations
and it goes to Lattern-Marweather Hill
to slave master in Georgia.
Like, I'm good with that.
I'm good if it ends.
I was the same way.
Like, because on my end,
I'm the last.
Like, well, then my daughter has my last name now,
but there's no telling when she has children
should be married.
You know how that goes.
Unless she decides to keep her name.
But there's no.
No other, like, have y'all had that talk?
What about you and yours?
Have y'all had to talk about last names?
Like, is she going to take freeze?
Yeah, well, stop, dude.
You're going to be last night.
I'm joking about free.
Yeah, yeah, again.
Is your lady going to take your name?
Yes, that's what it was.
Is that important to you?
You know that.
You know that.
I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying.
They know that freeze.
She didn't even walk.
You're doing it.
You're doing it.
You're doing it.
You're doing it.
You're doing it.
You're doing it.
You're going to be on that notebook.
Do it.
You're going to go that.
All right, Freed.
Yeah, you know Big Freeze ain't playing.
Go on, man.
Anyway.
You want to do what?
You want to do what?
Yeah, now that I'm listening to you married, niggas.
There might have been a time where my girl was pumping that up.
Fuck out of that, nigga.
Who paid the what?
Talk about some hyphenated.
I'm now pronouncing man and wife.
You don't even want hyphens.
No.
I don't want hyphens.
I don't want hyphens.
I'm just curious.
I'm just curious to know what people.
No.
I have friends, for example, who hyphenate, but the whole family hyphenates.
I get it.
So if he's Smith and she's Jones, it's like, they both become the Smith Joneses and the kids become the Smiths.
My best, her last name is obsolete.
My best family made up a new name.
They don't get to be no more.
Your last name is.
Lillards or whatever her name is.
There's no more Lillards.
Yeah, that's it.
You're done now.
That's it.
What do you think?
The king has chosen his wife.
Uh-huh.
And part of that is the last name.
I'm picking my scene coming to America.
You are queen.
You're a button now.
You know, that's part of,
yo, I'm going to hollet your dad.
It pops.
All of that.
That last name shit,
Lillard.
It's a rat.
She's not yours.
It's button now.
That's mine.
I'm taking care of this.
This is our family.
Sorry, Mr. Lillard.
What is my family?
No, yes.
Yes.
Dog, when you go pay the girl's father,
or dowry or when you go ask for
Where is your?
Don't make fun of my man because he's old words
niggins for the 60s.
No, that's how it's supposed to go.
It's not an old word.
It's an old tradition.
I'm talking about from yesterday or you go
ask for a girl's father
for their hand in marriage.
You are essentially telling her father
you are relieved of your responsibility.
I got it now.
No more Lillard.
Yeah.
Yes.
I guess what I hear what you're saying.
I'm saying like that whole tradition
of going to the
father
taking her from him
and keeping her
giving the dowry like I'm paying you to
that whole thing is like I'm replacing the father
that's patriarchy I mean I understand
what you're saying and I'm just literally
I mean some patriarchy we cool with no it is
patriarchy but it's also symbolic
I'm playing it's also symbolic
it's patriarchy to tell the dad
he's the patriarch of family and I'm saying you know
I'm going to be the patriarch of him
it is rooted in patriarchy
it is by definition
The father is the patriarch of the family.
I understand what you say by this.
And now you said, I'm her daddy now.
Yes, literally definitely you said, I'm her dad now.
Do we have to use it?
Let me ask you, let me ask you.
Do you believe that the man is the head
of the household?
No.
Okay.
I'm asking.
I believe we had our household together.
We are partners.
What if you do?
What if the man has a dick?
I would know.
Clearly, God.
Clearly I have a dick, right?
Listen, T.
It's on everybody.
Everybody household is theirs to run.
I love parks.
story. I was trying to give up the last
man.
I brought it. She was like, you know what?
When you put the family, we can't play with you.
If my wife said that to me, yo, I want your life.
I was like, no, I keep yours. You're, really?
Yes, I don't want. No, I don't want that.
But she didn't say that to you. She said that she wanted to keep hers.
Yeah. See, that's the part.
What I'm saying. Oh, well, part, not part.
It wasn't even a discussion is what I'm saying.
We know. No, no. We know. We know. We know. We know. We know.
We know. We know. We don't want it. No, we know. That's what we're saying.
there was no discussion
We know that it was
It didn't need to be one
No we know
What we're saying to you
Fuck you
Fuck you
Do you all about it in detail
In that episode?
Well what's your stance
On the
Not to spoil
Too much
On her hand
Putting belt to ass
On the digital footprint
thing
Again we see that
A tiny bit different
But in general
I don't want to track nobody
What's digital footprint?
Sharing locations
Share locations
I agree with that
I think that shit's crazy
Boom
I agree with that
I don't think that's crazy
I don't think it's crazy
I think it's up
But for me, it's always about the why of it.
If you're doing it for safety, that's one thing.
If you're doing it like, I need to make sure you are where you say you are.
I'm checking a seat.
And a lot of people are pretending they're doing it for safety, but they really are doing it to some.
For insecurity.
Don't shoot nobody in here, yo.
Just make your point.
Come on.
You should always get personal when we have a regular normal confidence.
Word.
Don't stop.
In that general.
Let them do it.
Stop.
Stop.
Come on, man, niggas is sitting here.
Fair enough.
We are.
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God damn, boy.
I wish he would try to hyphenate.
I'm not with the hyphen- shit.
I think it's clunky and it's still...
It's clunky, yeah.
Yeah, it's just not...
There's no need for it.
Your wife got your last name?
I got to make sure I start.
You know that.
You know that.
You know that.
It's going to take his girl last name.
No, he not.
What do you do if your girl...
I know he ain't going to do that, but Hitch would be like...
What do you do by...
Scalador.
Scalador.
What the fuck is that?
That's his Portuguese last name.
We don't know no Portuguese last name.
He's just in some letters.
He's just like,
Iscalador, nigga?
Nah, I think she ain't playing that shit.
Can you imagine?
If your lady said, we're not getting back.
No, I know what you can say that.
Never mind.
If your lady says it's a non-negotiable for me,
I want to keep my name, you keep yours.
What do you do?
Oh, then you're going to come.
Question.
And I'm gonna keep this ring money
No, for a minute
What do you do?
All just, I really want to
I don't know how to answer it because my girl
wouldn't say that.
We got the conversation already, but.
One God.
Gee shit.
Honestly speaking, all right, never mind.
I guess my question is, how important is it to you?
I get that.
It's important to me.
It's important to you.
It's important to you as well?
Yeah.
Okay.
Some things people do just at a tradition
but they don't really have it to get a best one.
You better have a boy, though.
Yo, dog.
If we marry, we were becoming one house.
like one family, one household, all of that shit,
then yes, you're taking my last name.
That is happening.
Or you could live in a different house.
Lineage, tradition,
all of those things that we build
and we're trying to build our name.
You know what I'm saying?
Your name.
No, our.
Then why don't you take hers?
Because I got a dick.
Tell me why.
Outside of I got a dick.
We get it.
Everybody here has a dick.
No, everybody's don't.
Because my girl's father, that was their family.
That's their family's name.
So it's patriarchy, but I'm not disagreeing with you.
What if she pays the dowry for you?
Yeah.
She can't.
Why?
Because you're worth too much.
You were bad.
My father's passed.
Oh, he got you.
Pay moms.
And my mother don't take care of me.
My mother's not responsible for me.
Is your lady's parents taking care of her right now?
Her father, too.
Till you pass off the hand in marriage, her father, definitely.
If some...
It's patriarchy because he's taking care of his daughter.
Yeah.
In a matter...
In a traditional sense, no.
But listen to this.
If I'm not around, let's say this.
Let's say I'm, wait, wait a joke.
I'm cool with being dumped too.
Look, if I'm not around, right?
If I'm not around and my girl catches a flat tire
or my girl gets into something that she can't handle
and she needs a male presence.
Who does she call?
She calls her dad.
And so then when I come on to...
I'm going to the scene.
No, if I come on to the scene and now I have relieved her father
of all of those responsibilities.
Well, y'all following the...
You follow that shit.
You follow that shit to the team.
I don't know what they're going on.
My wife better call me.
I'm not.
I'm sure no.
My wife better call me,
the two married people have a different team.
That's what you're saying.
Stop shooting at us.
I said if I wasn't here.
I hear you.
I'm shooting at him.
Oh, shit.
I don't know.
No, no, no.
I'm slow.
I'm slow.
Repeat it.
Repeat it.
Nothing.
Repeat.
You have to repeat it.
You'll hear it on playback.
No, I don't want to hear it on playback.
But yeah, dog, if your girl is, don't have a boyfriend.
Hey, hell, hold up.
Let me talk to you.
What if Pop said around?
Stop, you can't.
Hypothetically.
I'm saying if your girl didn't have a man.
Who's the first male presence your daughter calls?
Your girl calls.
She calls her dad if he's available.
When you now, your father can be there.
My girl's calling me.
She's not calling her father.
What are we talking about?
Those responsibilities that we once had fell on me
the second that we decided to be committed in the relationship.
And that's patriarchy?
It is.
It's kind of rooted in patriarchy.
You're literally saying,
her daddy now. No it's not.
No it's not. And that's when y'all make it sound bad.
I'm not saying her daddy. I'm saying I'm her partner
in life. So those responsibilities
should fall on me at the man in her life.
It's like you calling you another
chick for something that your girl should be
doing. But I'm with you is, but that's what I'm saying
we're partners. But in this thing, you're
taking, she's taking your name
not the opposite, so it's not an equal partnership
in that way. What your girl? Have you called
another girl
for advice or for anything?
Right? Let's keep apples to apples.
I'm trying to call your mom.
Or that.
Right.
How about that?
Like, yo, dog.
I want to be here.
I'm going to boss before I'm going.
Keep an apple to apples.
For a lot of things, their mom was their emergency contact on a lot of shit.
And then you turn around and get married.
Who's your emergency contact?
Not even married.
Not even married.
When you get into a real relationship, your emergency contact is now your girl.
It's the same shit.
So if it's the same shit, then why are she taking your name and not the opposite?
Can I say something?
That's all I'm saying.
Because I said so.
Because that's her father's name.
That might be the patriarchy.
That's her father.
I think it's unfair that y'all put,
even if it is patriarchy,
I think it's unfair that you put patriarchy
with something that's tradition.
Something that's a lot of traditions.
Because you didn't make that decision.
I don't think you just,
I don't think it's, because patriarchy
it just sounds so money.
It sounds bad.
It sounds bad.
But Mark, you making an excuse to,
you put you.
The whole marriage, I mean,
from I go to the father
and ask for her,
he gives me money for her.
We have a ceremony.
He walks me down her out,
gives me her hand.
And now she takes my name.
Now she's mine.
The property.
No, no, no, no.
Let me ask you a question.
He got to get the fuck out of here.
No, no, no, let me ask you.
He's not wrong.
He's not wrong.
He's not wrong.
He's not wrong.
But we say, it's like, yo, everything in patriarchy is bad.
It's not.
We all come up here and say, yo, double standards.
Sometimes are just double standards.
They all are bad if that's the case.
But you have said on the podcast before that you pay majority of your bills in your household.
Yeah.
Why is that?
Because I make a lot more, I make ten times as much as my wife.
But when you were leveled out, you would still find that you're
a mask, bro, don't act like you're not a masculine man.
I just say anything. We know you.
But you feel like it's your duty.
Even when you were laid off or going through some financial problems,
you still feel like it's your manly thing to step up to the occasion.
Yeah.
And I think it's unhealthy.
And I'm not disagree.
Yeah, I thought that way that's unhelp.
That's rooted in patriarchy too.
Yeah, I have some unhealthy patriarchal.
Exactly.
But some of it you got rid of already.
Uh, yeah.
His name.
Yeah, we work it.
The Lord is working on me.
Yeah.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, that's the whole thing.
Like, yo, some of these things are patriarchy in nature, but you pick and choose when
it's beneficial for you to be that.
Yeah.
I'm just trying to pick and choose.
In society.
Yeah.
I'm not mad about you.
And I choose my wife about that because, you know, when it's time to open doors or pay for checks
or, you know what I mean?
If an attacker comes around, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like, I get it.
You know what I mean?
We all got a selective shit.
You know, dog.
You know, digger sound like, day big.
Go downstairs.
This is our house.
Hey, wake up.
Wake up.
Hey, you heard that?
Yo.
Did you hear that?
You got your mace bull?
Go downstairs.
Them niggins sound like they about business.
You can be standing there to do a woodland.
They sound like they about business.
Y'all, oh, wow.
We okay?
Y'all heard that noise in the basement.
Yeah, we still got our own last names and we hear a noise.
This is every man for himself in here.
I know the good hiding spot in the house.
The buttons over here.
Hey, yo.
Both of these guns is mine.
Get you.
Get your own gun.
These are hill guns.
These are hill guns.
These guns are my...
I get it. I get it. I'm so uneducated.
I never looked at any of that wedding traditional stuff
that you all just named.
It's all of them.
Dave near definition.
Yeah, but I don't like that
because I don't like the definition of patriarch.
Like a form of social organization
in which the father is the supreme authority
in the family, clan or tribe,
and the descent is reckoned in the male line
and the children belonging to the father's clan and tribe.
That's patriarch.
It's pituitary.
That's it.
What's the opposite then?
You are a button.
What's the opposite?
When you say, you're a button, you are a part of the button clan.
You are a button.
When you go home to South Carolina and those tombstones say button, that is your clan, your lineage.
And that's how it's how it's always been.
How would it go in matriarchy?
Follow the world.
I mean, there's a really interesting documentary on a West African village that is matriarch.
A lot of African vigil.
Matriarchical and matrilineal societies.
I mean,
I always want to take me to an African village.
No.
Is there any other example?
Because I want you to, because.
Is there any other example anywhere else in the world?
A lot of shit didn't come from us.
That's the point.
Like, if you go back before we were enslaved,
shit looks different.
Isn't it the Jewish religion sort of matriarchal?
Is that it follows the mother's bloodline?
That's another good example.
Halachah says that, you know,
that Jewish identity is transferred through the woman
and through motherhood.
If my dad's Jewish and my mom's not,
then I'm not Jewish,
but if my mom's Jewish and my dad's not.
Yeah.
At least not, I didn't know that.
I didn't know that.
That's why I would do.
And the more you know.
Oh, indeed.
Anywho's.
Cory, undo this.
Oh, that's a beautiful picture you're doing.
A little spooky, man.
Nah, this is fun, man.
You crazy.
I'm going to listen back what the fuck you're saying.
All right.
Here we go.
Disney and the NFL have finalized
the major media reshuffling
that brings the NFL network
under ESPN's control.
marking one of the most consequential partnerships in modern sports media.
ESPN is buying the league's in-house TV assets,
including NFL network and the rights to distribute NFL Red Zone,
while the NFL takes a minority ownership stake in ESPN itself.
Oh wow.
Whoa.
That structure tightens the relationship between the sport and its biggest broadcast partner,
aligning incentives on content, distribution, and long-term growth,
rather than keeping them at arm's length.
That's crazy.
I can't remember a time where I've seen two bohemoths actually,
it's not just one gobbled up the other one.
Right, right.
The deal tightens ESPN's control over must-watch NFL content
while giving the league a financial stake in the network's success
reflecting a shift toward deeper and shared partnerships
between sports leagues and media companies.
That's interesting.
That's big, big, big, big, big business right there.
Yeah.
Yeah, and ESPN.
In Disney?
10% ownership's sake in Disney?
No, probably ESPN.
Just ESPN? Okay.
I'm sure.
Yeah, don't get crazy now.
I'm just, still big business.
Still big business, yeah, for sure.
What I was trying to ask you, Mark, because my brain is delayed.
If we're against patriarchy here, then what would be the alternative?
He was answering.
I think the answer is equality, right?
I don't want a matriarchal society either.
In the same way, like, if I want to get rid of white supremacy,
I don't want black supremacy.
I want a society where we can all be equal
and where we can all reimagine our relationships
in a way where one doesn't have to dominate the other.
That's the point for me.
It's about trying to have a war without domination.
That's all.
Got it.
So that's the word that's throwing things off here.
Supreme.
Because why can't we both be authorities?
That's what I want.
Well, that's what he's saying with the,
But take out each other's last name and our kids have both last names.
But what?
Go ahead.
Because that's not.
We are, we both authorities.
But I have a say and you have a say.
But who says?
And I have a way more.
And you don't.
What happened when we disagree?
When the say is tied, somebody has to have the electoral vote.
And know it's crazy, yo.
When me and my girl really disagree on something, most times I give way.
Same.
Like literally 90.
Probably 95% of the time, my girl, I'll just be like, all right, cool.
Yeah, you got it.
You know what I'm saying?
Huh?
Because you don't feel like.
No, me and my girl will get into an argument, but sometimes if she has a point and I have a point and we just are at a disagreement or, or, uh.
You just give it to her.
I just, yeah.
Like, all right, man, she'll stop cooking for me.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, most times I just like, right.
I'm not, no.
You ain't go trick me.
I got, nope.
You good for it?
No.
That's right there.
I remember.
I got threatened.
I'm not.
Ah!
It's like a flip, man.
I ain't played around with a nigga's family.
I got threatened.
That shit was tough.
You might be.
You're such a kid.
Anyway.
What else is important, man?
Can we do a quick rest in peace before we get to the end of the show?
Definitely.
For the great.
We're at the end.
Huh?
I said before we get to the end.
A couple hours left.
Oh, I know.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm going to do it right here in the middle.
Shit.
To the great DeMond Wilson,
the name is Grady Demand Wilson,
but the great Demand Wilson,
also known as Lamont from Sanford and Son.
Yeah, rest of the piece.
One of the most special shows of the 70s,
one of the most important sitcoms in American history,
one of the most original sitcoms, Norman Lear,
one of his products.
But Norman Lear wasn't really on the set for this one.
It wasn't like all in the family in them.
This show was about the genius of Red Fox,
and it was a genius also of Demand Wilson.
And a lot of times people think about Red Fox,
but don't understand.
that that show don't work without Demi Wilson's genius.
He was a brilliant actor, grew up performing at Apollo,
was a dancer, a trained dancer, tap dancer,
and other forms of dance.
Oh, shit.
I mean, you saw that on some of the special episodes
when they did talent shows.
You know, back in the 70s, when they have the talent show,
good talents be the rent party,
you realize all them black actors could do everything.
They could sing, dance, play sport.
I mean, they did every fucking thing.
And Demi Wilson was one of those people.
You know, he did the five-year run on Sanford and Son.
Then he had his own show on CBS, Baby I'm Back.
He also was for a brief time on the New Eye Cup.
And then he kind of walked away from Hollywood and was a very influential minister in the Kodzic Church, Church of God and Christ, which is what he spent much of his career doing. So he was somebody who was filled with like spirit and hope and love. He was a beautiful spirit to a lot of people. And he was a wonderful actor and one of the really unsung legends in our tradition. So salute to him and rest in peace.
For sure. Rest in peace for sure. Very well said. I'm glad that I know what patriarchy mean now. We got to say rest of the
piece of Michael 5,000 watts to him real quick.
Oh, yes.
DJ producer, founder of Switcha House.
Absolute legend.
Houston legend.
I think he was 51.
Yeah.
52 or something like that.
Don't know details, but rest in peace and thank you.
Yeah, word, thank you.
Because now when somebody say,
hey, that's patriarchy.
Like, yeah, bitch.
Oh, now you know?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It is.
That's the script.
You want to break the script?
How you think, how you wanted to go?
We can break a lot of traditions now.
That'd be my thing with it too.
They be saying, oh my God.
The world is ready on Patriot.
No.
No, no, no.
Real talk is this.
Real talk is.
It is down the side.
A lot of them is with patriarchy.
No, they love patriarchy when it's beneficial.
Yeah.
If you really want to, there's a real conversation.
Y'all love that shit.
That's why I think you got to make more money to me.
Listen, man.
I'm about to start showing up to the patriarchy debates.
Hey, put me in that shit where they got the desk in the middle of the circle and you got to debate 90 people to disagree with you.
Well, let me argue for Patriarchy.
That's horrible.
Mark, you shouldn't work with us.
The streets is right.
Turns out.
It turns out.
Did you guys see, I was talking about the Knit game.
The Knicks played the Lakers earlier.
That was like in the first 10 seconds of spot.
But did you all see?
see, Caitlin Clark was talking to Reggie Miller and the panel, and they asked Reggie Miller
who Caitlin Clark's player comp would be in the NBA.
Did you all see any of that?
No.
No.
Oh, then y'all missed it.
Hold on, hold on.
Before you play it, who do you think it is?
Well, here are he watched it.
I'm saying, your personal opinion.
Who do I think her player comp is in the NBA?
Right this second?
Are y'all gonna kill me?
Conquinepple?
Steph.
That's the young Steph.
Steph or Tre?
And young Steph.
Yeah, Steph.
Trey's also good, too.
Because she passes better than Conniple.
Yeah, she's a much better playmaker.
Much better.
Yeah, yeah.
She's a facilitator.
And she's the star of the league.
And that part.
Okay.
Now play it.
I'm going, Steph.
Now play it.
Reminds you of the young lady to your right.
I like Peyton Pritcher from Boston,
the way he's able to handle the basketball.
He makes big shots when the shot box running down a lot like this young lady right here.
Is it a freak?
Now I'm going to show it to y'all so y'all can see.
So y'all can see her face.
Minds you of the young lady to your right.
I like Peyton Pritchard from Boston, the way he's able to handle the basketball.
He makes big shots when the shot box running down a lot like this young lady right here.
See, that's the other thing.
You asked me what, in my opinion, who the player comp was.
But sitting right here talking to y'all.
I would say whatever.
If she was sitting in front of my face,
I would have never said a conquering up.
Never.
I'd say, Michael Jordan.
If she's sitting right next to me,
I believe it's stuff.
Magic.
Steph fucking.
Pistolee.
You can't look her in her face and say,
Payton Pritchard.
And again, no disrespect to Payton Pritcher.
And again, no disrespect.
He's a tough.
He's a tough.
Super tough.
But in no world.
I had a new sound respect for him.
That nigg.
It's dragging my nephew and then Nevada camp.
I said, ow.
No, he's different.
That nigger was a monster.
And Reggie's being literal.
He's talking about the exact stock.
He made a mistake.
That's a, that's an error.
That's a broadcast mistake.
You don't think he's just doing like saying like exact player style and he's not talking about talent.
She plays similar to Steph.
Oh, I agree.
If you wanted to fight, that's what I said her or tray.
Like, yo dog, she plays like, she don't play like no fucking Peyton.
Even if he thought that, he shouldn't have said that to her.
Yeah, I think.
That's a broadcasting error.
You got to go big.
You got to say stuff.
You got to say something.
Yes.
Nigg said.
Peyton Pritchard don't start
That's what I'm saying
I'm not disrespected
Because I think Peyton Pritchard is a monster
He's super nice
He's super tough
But fam you can't say the girl that damn near is
Her and Angel Reese and Asia
respectively are hole in this league on their back
And you call her Peyton Pritcher
Can't do it, bro
You'll need to unlock your iPhone first
Yeah, that's what you gotta do
I was sitting on the coach
Before Melissa get your location
Why you got your phone lock?
Why you got your phone lock?
Why you got your phone lock?
Oh, no.
She said don't lock it no more.
Wait, she got her last name and the password.
Oh my God.
Oh, my God.
It's worse than we thought, y'all.
If she did a pass, do you have a password too?
What's that?
Do you have a password also?
Somewhere, yeah.
I don't know about heart, but yeah.
Oh, fuck me.
Wait, what?
I'm saying we have each other's passwords.
I didn't memorize you.
I'm saying, big dog.
We got it, big dog.
We know.
Listen, we got a great part of the show line for you guys.
What am I missing?
I'm saying we have each other's password.
I just don't remember.
You just don't.
And she probably doesn't mind by heart.
Yeah.
That's what we're saying.
Yeah.
I understand.
Well, you think I should only have hers?
Like, you know, I said, you made it to see that you don't have her.
No, I said, I do.
I just have to.
She's remembers yours, though.
I don't think so.
I don't think she remembers.
Listen, check out all in this thing together, this too.
All in the family.
Yeah, check out what they shit.
On Patriots.
In this thing together.
Yes.
I don't know.
All in this together.
We're together with separate names.
But we're not even all of us together.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, man.
I have nothing more that's important to share with you guys.
We're already at the three hour mark.
I love this part.
I do think that it could end now.
It can.
But.
Or, however.
I could introduce you guys.
to Brittany Renner's new man
and let you all hear
some of the things.
That's been such a good show.
Think about it.
I could let you all hear him
directly speak to her.
No, that's my birthday,
they have a podcast coming.
That's my birthday,
twin.
We're not doing that turn.
Are you all sure?
We don't want to hear it,
but go ahead, play it.
God damn, you know.
Fuck.
Y'all sure?
Yeah, but can play it on.
Yeah.
You got to.
appreciate even you letting me end with your son, you know?
And being able to be a stepfather, someone to, you know, care for him in ways that people didn't believe they would for you.
It's Britney Renner's new man.
So I really appreciate that.
And that takes a lot of trust to even open up like that, you know.
So I commend you for that.
I have trouble with my daughter and seeing her at the
moment and it hurts me every day.
But seeing y'all together, it makes me feel better.
It sounds like all this together.
It makes you feel like we have something.
It sounds like more, big.
It sounds like more.
Sure, stop.
No, he's still going to go.
Unfortunately, I got baby mama issues.
You know?
And you've got baby daddy issues.
Yeah.
But we're handling this together.
And one thing I would just encourage anybody
to do is to never give up on yourself.
I've seen the Shannon shop, right?
Where he's like you're never
be in a relationship with someone that loves you basically.
And we're here to debunk that, you know?
We're here to just say, hey, look, you don't get to
write God's story, you know?
You don't get to do that. You're safe.
I love you.
I love you, too.
Nigger, when does she meet this nigga?
Are you fucking, hey.
Yo, niggum, are you crazy?
Nigga, are you?
Is that the best you can say?
Man, shut the fuck.
I'm going to turn that podcast off.
Oh, my God.
Talk your shit, play, boy.
When Kevin Gates.
What is that, what is that?
What is his name?
Talk that shit, Rasko.
I just look, I couldn't find it.
I couldn't find it.
I couldn't find it.
Britney Rinner is a friend of the show, so I support her.
I just thought that you might need to hear from her new man,
fresh out of her marriage with Kevin
Gates yesterday.
She posted them on Instagram and said like next, what's the next chapter?
Yeah, yeah.
So they're doing it.
They're doing it.
Congratulations.
Love wins again.
God damn.
She said she want to come up here again.
I want to have her.
I would love to have her.
All right.
She's in the top five of people I want to come up here again.
Are you shitting me?
She said she's doing something.
But after that she want to come up here.
Oh, please.
Please.
I'm about the edge of my seat for that one.
Let's go, Brittany, Brenner.
Good.
Joe.
Good show.
All right, my last question about the
Grammys, and it's not about the Grammys.
When I bought the clips album, that's when
they changed the beat on that joint.
Same. And then they changed the beat.
And then they changed it back.
So now I don't have the one that it was,
and I like that one.
So how can I get it?
I think I have it.
But how can they do that if I bought my album?
That's why I keep telling y'all.
Even when you, well, you bought it,
and if you downloaded the original,
fully downloaded it because, remember,
that was a mistake you was having.
You're not downloading them all.
If you download it, you have the file.
and then it's always there.
If you don't download it,
whenever you go back to click it,
whatever changes they make
is what you're going to get.
Oh, that's horrible.
I keep telling they,
everybody.
Do you have the other version?
Of course, I have the other version.
All right, man, I need the other version.
All right, I'm done.
I'm done.
Good show.
You got anything else?
You don't need to get off your chest.
It was classic.
They're going to say we ran from it.
This is a good episode.
Nine hundred.
They're going to say we ran from it.
Which?
No, we took Pete Rock and Seals moves ahead on.
Oh, okay.
You're right.
And like, look, man,
We're not scared of the powerful up top, man.
We don't run from nobody.
Listen, no, no, no, no, no.
No.
Listen.
You're going to take us out of there, boy?
I ain't never been, I ain't never been pussy.
I ain't never ran.
Never will.
If you're listening out there, I want you to know I see some of the same exact things that you see.
And I'm really, really disturbed by it all.
So much so, so.
I'm making a call to action right this second, yo.
I need me and you guys out there
to head down to the Rock Nation office.
Seriously.
Word.
At 5 p.m. this Saturday.
5 p.m. this Saturday.
Eastern time, y'all.
I think that along with you guys' help,
we'll be able to get to the bottom
of what that undercover anonymous hot
line tip met. And when we
finished down there at Rock Nation,
we're taking this bad boy down
to Virginia. Push-a-T's
name was in that, too, on that phone call.
Yo. And
the train being J-Z, push-a-T
and Harvey Weinstein.
In 96, too.
In 96.
Yo.
You know, Mom, somebody.
Pause. Can you believe that?
You know.
Pause.
You,
Pigity, thank you.
The white man said,
four to turn to it,
Rob.
R. B, Y, Z,
to push a T.
That's a same game.
Nine, six.
Piggity, tell him,
Piggity.
Push was 18.
Probably 130 pounds.
If that.
Yo, he can't.
No, for real,
yo.
Honestly,
now, we have to get
to the bottom of what was going on.
That shit don't stay
right in my soul and spirit.
Some of these people we look up to,
yo.
This Saturday at 5 p.m.
Meet me down there, and we're going to really get to the bottom of what they meant by that.
Somebody got some explaining to do?
Yeah, we're going to, don't worry, y'all.
We ain't running from that.
We ain't running from that.
This weekend, watch.
It's going to look like January 6th.
It's going to look like January 6th.
Oh, my God.
Why you get up?
Yo, Mark, come on, Mark.
Because Mark work for Rock Nation.
Oh, yeah, we're going to go down
and all you all right.
Y'all work for it, too, since y'all tried to hit me.
I've been putting the case together.
Let me get you, niggas.
Not the day.
You play the music.
But who's the person you're going to start with?
Flip, he already said it.
No, no, no, that's...
Probably you.
Nick, you just wave me off,
niggily, like, I'm nothing?
I'm not starting with you is what I was saying.
Nigg, you need to.
I don't need to.
Ooh.
All right, Fritz.
What's up with Joe?
Yeah.
You got you.
The Fritz, it's all love, you.
I went to watch it, too.
You're a legend, yo.
Go about watching you.
So imagine you're fresh off, your debut album.
Ten presidents of Ken I Live
tearing up those streets.
Yeah.
Shit is a single.
Street single.
Yo, you blasted.
Yo, Pox, you so stupid.
My life.
Tom.
He's fucking talking about it.
And you look down.
Just to be a little head and you look down the way.
There's big harve tearing shit up.
The streets is watching.
Holy shit.
Hey, to stop.
Just to be clear for the audience's benefit, we're not making, we're not laughing at the accusations.
Hold us down, boy.
They're saying that they're implausible, that they don't believe the accusation.
I don't want people to later on be like they're laughing at somebody
who is harmed.
I don't want them to twist them as represent what y'all.
I know, but people make you're right.
You're right.
It's very important to say.
My apologies.
This is why we need you here.
The joke, what they're laughing at is the implausibility
that at that time in the 90s that Jay-Z would even be at the social status
to even have access to those people and Push-a-T even more so.
And was it, 07 or whatever, that he would have access to these social circles.
96, bro.
Yeah, it seems implausible.
Right, 96 or 06?
96 was for whole.
They gave one for him and another, and I think it was 0-7 for push-a-T.
So they were saying two different time periods, both of which seem implausible to a lot of people.
It was an anonymous tip, and those papers are filled with that.
I don't know what's true.
They're going to say we're capable for Jay-Z.
I'm not capable of any.
Some of the ones against other people who are revered from a different sector of the world,
I don't really necessarily be able to.
Yeah, I don't know if John Chomsky was in the train either.
That's what I'm feeling it?
My whole thing was, and I just posted it up there on the screen,
the same justice.
gov that posted these 3 million pages also wrote.
this production may include fake or falsely submitted images, documents, or videos,
as everything that was sent to the FBI by the public was included in his production.
Admitting there's a lot of bullshit in there.
We didn't.
All of this shit is, it's a lot of bullshit in there.
We don't know.
We just, hey, if it came to us, we gave it to y'all.
So, y'all can't say we held it.
So to be clear, we're not holding a hoe and push your T to a higher standard or a lower standard.
We're saying everybody in those documents should be examined.
We should look for the truth.
But we shouldn't assume that anybody in there is innocent or guilty just because we like them or don't like them.
That's all.
I agree.
That's right.
Very, very, very well said.
Listen, some of y'all kids out there missed the memo.
There's this new trend on the internet where adults are replying to things now.
So adults are reading, adults are replying.
We're not just taking the kiddie version of what's going on,
which would be we need your voices because Pusha T, JZ and Harvey Weinstein and 96 had too much fun.
Call me when you get a little more on that.
A minute, wait a minute, wait a minute now.
Hey, great show today, great show today, man.
Hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there until the next time.
Hey, I bid you would do farewell, adios, seriva durche, hostel, ala vista, arvois, so long goodbye,
with simple head and I will suffice.
Hey, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there until the next time.
Hey, remember life is a series of moments.
So let's make this one last as if it's always.
And last but certainly not least,
the baddies are insecure,
the stagnant women want to travel
and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things.
Grab you with Tylenol, you might need it.
When you're sitting on the around,
and you do this in them.
Rockhorn don't got this in them.
Rockhorn, stop it.
Rockoon.
And she's always on.
Rockorn ain't never going to give you slave in the Odyssey.
See, he never even heard of that.
Stop it, man.
Stop it.
I think you want Rockwood to pop out of the show.
Rock on just can't.
You should stop saying his name, honestly.
Rockwood can't fuck with me at all
when it come to just selecting records.
So let's just, let's slow down.
Let's slow down.
I thought you should leave his name alone.
That's my man, no.
Shout to him, shout to doughboy and all that.
Yeah, I mean, wait a minute.
Don't try to be tough with me.
You got sparkles on your hoodie,
nigga, dance to this.
You can dance to this.
And on your sweatpants.
Yeah, you know that.
Uniquely defined.
Watch that mouth, boy.
What's everybody doing this week?
Anything, anything fun, anything fun, anything I can make fun of, anything that's interesting.
We're just living life, bro.
We live in life and enjoy the music.
9 hundred episodes.
We just want to go out partying.
Fuck how we're going to go.
Turn it up.
Turn it up.
Big up.
Three, three, one.
Come in, baby.
Inside out.
Mark, you still doing now.
Super Bowl.
Super Bowl kickback or something?
Nah, I'll be out of the country.
Got it, got it, got.
Got it, got it.
Parks, I saw the Super Bowl flyer you made.
Yeah, man.
I saw that flyer you made.
We saw your fire skills.
We saw it.
My caviar skills?
No, that's not me.
That's my wife.
That's my lovely, talented wife.
Is she ordering the catering?
It's going to be, no, I'm getting some wings from a spot.
My man's bringing some mac of cheese from a spot.
I'm going to cook some.
Some shit, some other people cook some other shit.
Pot luck, I guess.
Got it.
Got it, got it, got it, man.
I'm gonna be in there starving on Zepam or not starving on Zepam.
Fuck it.
Until next time, man, we love y'all.
Y'all, hold it down.
Man, if y'all don't bring the hook back, god damn it.
What the hell?
They was grooving.
God damn it.
All right, enough of y'all.
They got three minutes.
this left on the record. Back then they put the 12-inch version. Then you'll be damning for 13 minutes.
Music gotta keep up with that cocaine, hi. Exactly, that's it.
No Joe. To be without the JVP. You've never heard of Joe, bud?
