The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 903 | "That's Witty"
Episode Date: February 14, 2026The JBP opens its latest episode discussing their plans for Valentine's Day (14:44) before turning to the passing of actor James Van Der Beek at age 48 (24:45). GloRilla tells her estranged sister t...o keep her family out of it (37:54), J. Cole's first-week sales and post-release marketing for 'The Fall-Off' (51:28), plus new music from Jill Scott, Victoria Monét, Brent Faiyaz, and others (1:37:00). Also, battle rapper Geechi Gotti gets arrested on drug charges (1:56:30), Michael Jackson's estate responds to Sexyy Red's attempt at a 'Beat It' remix (2:41:53), Attorney General Pam Bondi's testimony is going viral (2:53:05), Gene Simmons slams Hip-Hop once again (3:19:32), and much more. Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden
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I'm getting slower.
You should never think he's just talking.
I ain't even get it.
I still don't get it.
You know what my problem is?
I give people, humans, the benefit of the doubt more than the benefit of the doubt is dead.
Nah, once you know who somebody is, you kind of, I know Mark is on bullshit.
The second he sit there, it's all bullshit.
Yeah, that's how it is.
Yeah.
Mark made a funny that went totally undetected by me, but once I got it, those are the best.
Yeah.
I still don't get it.
Those are the best.
That's cool.
That's cool.
It re-saying it won't be funny this second.
Yeah.
You had to be witty.
It's one of those things.
How do you phone so many bitches without wit?
Because you did.
You did.
You did.
God damn.
You did your numbers without wits.
That's crazy.
Who said I ain't witty?
Are you witty?
Wait.
Are you?
That's why I'm not dragging it?
I'm just asking.
Are you witty?
I had to be something.
I ain't had no trauma to bond over.
I had to do something, you know what I mean?
Oh, you know what I mean?
And there's plenty of trauma, isn't there?
For you to bond over.
Oh, okay.
No I mean, it's cool.
Okay, so you are Whittier and I'm leaving it low.
Just tell me yes.
Get away from me, bro.
All right, forget.
You don't think he's Woody up here?
Huh?
You don't think he's weird?
You always say.
Your tail is you take a safe.
Yeah.
Or you just stare at you.
He got a lawyer out and not take the sip.
Do I think is witty as witty?
I think I'm my man.
I ain't never going to talk.
Y'all, y'all can't trick me to talking bad about my man.
Y'all trying to trick me.
Yes, is the answer to that.
I think it's.
I don't think he's witty with the bitches.
He might put on a little extra way.
Never the case.
He up there still doing that stupid 89 shot brother bullshit.
Joe, Joe, Joe.
You're witty with the bitch and say word is born.
Word is every, hell stop.
Okay.
He's about to be whitties.
That's my bad then.
That's my bad then.
No, if it's anybody's bad, it's mine.
My fault, I'm going to play with you like that, OG.
OG.
It's all right, bro.
Would you think he'd be saying to him?
Oh, my God.
You're going to be.
I told you.
You got to show you.
He's a license in order to do this.
It's 20 years of interview, so it's spelled upon that.
It's great.
None but I can help you with that.
You had a 580 right now.
None but if you got a copy machine, I can do it.
for you.
I got that from you, though.
I can help you with that.
That's wit.
That's wet.
Come on.
Come on.
Too much rent.
Oh, shit.
Not a problem.
Oh, no.
Don't do that.
That's recent.
That's new game.
Yeah, that's a good boy.
Don't do that.
That's new shit.
Oh.
And that's a joke.
Totally joking.
I'm glad everybody's a good move.
Good to see y'all.
Good to see y'all, man.
Happy Valentine's Day.
Happy Valentine's Day.
We'll get to it.
Mark said, how long you think our opening Valentine's Day segment is going to go to?
Niggas was like, bad.
Real quick, real quick.
We did it.
We did it.
Cupid ain't even pulled out.
Hats.
Stupid eyes, Cuban.
Oh, man.
All right, come boy.
Let's have a good time.
I meant to tell you
when we did the fistbone thing
that your hands was a little ashy.
No, shit.
Why don't you want to take everything
I say like some type of fucking Joe
we can't be grown?
I wonder why.
God damn.
And that lotion, I smell it from here.
That lotion, I don't know.
That lotion is not going to be here.
Yeah, this shit got to look.
London and sick the devil worship
a size oil.
You know, she calls the money.
She calls the money right here.
The devil works.
Some shit you don't know what it mean.
That loachin ain't supposed to be here like Deborah Cox, boy.
I got to start searching these drawers.
I got to start searching these dresses and shit.
Like where I'll leave some good shit over here.
Yeah, some shit is supposed to be meant for me to take home.
Madducer in the morning.
We leave it in here.
Oh, no, this dude got some shit on it.
Yeah, man, if you don't throw me that lotion over here.
Hey, this shit is so.
You're good, you good?
This don't even use lotion, really.
I don't.
My shit, you know, I've been five degrees outside.
You need some, too?
Yeah, I do.
Word, word, word.
This shit ain't bad, my nigga.
Nah, it's been so cold, and I've been so cold,
and I've been home now putting no lotion
I've been scratching the soul of my skin.
Oh, you know.
Scrashing.
Absolutely all over my body,
scratching the absolute.
You got so bad the other night,
three in the morning I went to the bathroom,
got some lotion.
Like, all right, man.
All right, I'll do it.
I'll do it.
Yeah, I'll do it.
I'll get some lotion.
There's no more,
the itch kept coming back.
Yeah, bro.
I just ignore the itch.
Nah.
That's some expensive lotion right there.
Wait, you took some of it.
I did.
You're not getting this.
My hands are trying too, all right?
Okay, but where is it?
Don't worry about you.
You didn't get it back.
It's a dub.
Yeah, it's a dub on the shit.
How much like that go?
Fucking paupers.
Actually, pick up some more of those.
Yeah, that's just bullshit.
Get the value back.
Shit, that shit, that shit.
Is it going?
Is it going?
Is it going?
Is it going?
I.
Don't know
You're looking for
That's how that song starts
I've never heard
What did you say, freeze?
I said that's how that song starts
Yeah
I'm real as it comes
If you don't know why
I see you try to switch it up
You're looking at a girl you get a girl
You're like
You're all ain't going to sit here
And do a QVC on that ocean
That shit I ain't, yo.
I should salt and stuff.
It's amazing, right?
I keep...
Mark, you asked them too.
Yeah, I started.
You all think my shit to party back.
All right, bet.
That shit got the whole room smelling good.
Yeah, that shit, all right, man.
All right, man.
Oh, Miami.
What up?
What up?
What up out there?
Yes, hey.
Time that you're heard.
No hallibank.
Yeah.
One of my favorite sets.
The drunk white girl says.
This is definitely the drunk white girl set.
I'm feeling about a great goose commercial.
I ain't you on a house.
Shouts to the patronies out there.
Didn't think so.
How you doing?
Oh, hey.
I ain't going to lie.
I had a time in Florida when this run was going on.
I ain't going to hold it.
I was still outside when this shit came.
I had a time in Jersey.
I was still outside when this shit was.
You got damn.
I find out by the end
You expect me to just let you.
The fuck you did, I think this is like 20 years ago.
It's long as I did.
Especially the other job.
This is 20 years ago, though.
The justice shit is like damn it 20 years ago.
Damn.
Yeah.
I'm curious about you.
You want to get it in my world, get lost in it.
Boy, I'm tired of running.
Let's walk.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's when the club still had a dance floor and all that.
Yeah, 20 years.
April, 2020, I mean, April 2006.
Yeah.
20 fucking years.
There's me.
Here you go.
I used to sing this shit to be a bitch.
You see me.
All the parents out there listening.
Everybody in college listening, we go.
Use your life.
Say it all.
Say it all.
You understand.
Oh you're all.
Shout to y'all trying to make your last minute dinner reservations for the night.
You're gonna have a hard time buddy pay extra and don't be mad at it.
This is what it is.
Fridays might not have a wait.
Friday's shit.
Oh damn.
And Friday's gonna be jam-packed.
You got Friday's fucked up.
You're right.
You're right.
Olive Gordon, all that she can vibrate.
Wait a minute, hey!
Got a great show lined up.
Get these drops out the way real quick for the best thing going.
So glad you can be here with us today.
Got an amazing show lined up for y'all today so happy you could be here.
Salutation.
Greetings.
All right.
You know, ice and edge.
Who is that?
It's marked by a hill, pussy, pussy.
All right.
What episode is this?
Welcome to episode 903 of the Joe Button podcast.
Brought to you by, fueled by Power by Price Picks.
Price Picks, gang.
I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here.
Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right.
The birthday girl.
The birthday girl.
I did not expect the birthday girl to be punctual on her birthday.
She may or may not show up.
We'll see.
We'll check out.
Shout to our girl, Demona.
Happy birthday.
Happy birthday.
Next to not her.
our good brother, Philly's finest, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, in the building.
Peace, peace.
Next to him, you know what time it is, Mr. Thousand Doors and up our good brother issues here with us today.
Next to him, the freesiest of them, all big freezes in the building.
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Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here.
Shout to everybody listening out there.
Shout to all the business people, the nine to fiveers, the protesters, the activists.
Shout to the hate listeners.
Shout to each and every one of y'all.
Couldn't have done this without y'all.
How's everybody doing?
Doing good, man.
Good, good, good, good.
I like that on.
I like that.
Oh, thanks, man.
I like that.
Shout out to the, I got to think of the name.
I think of the name of this.
It's a black woman that makes these, the sister makes these political crew next.
So I bought one.
Just wanted.
Just shout out of small business.
Yeah.
No.
I see your kids off the next couple days?
No.
Just Monday.
Monday.
Mine's off Tuesday too
Mine's off Monday and Tuesday
But New York got the whole week off
What? They just making shit up
Midwinter break
Oh yeah, nah
Yeah, just having a break
Your word
Midwinter?
That's something
That's what they call it
They told us President's Day
And then Lunar New Year
On Tuesday
The fuck
Lunar New Year?
We ain't on the moon
I didn't even know the fuck
They're just making up shit
Oh yeah, yeah, nah
Monday
That's it
So I might be at your house
We told you to Earth flat
Yeah
I'm trying to put one in
to get it.
No matter.
Just go with it.
He's being witty.
Oh, shit.
B. I'm talking about some days.
He's off Monday and Tuesday.
I know it's my weekend, but just in case you want to see him.
Monday, he's all yours.
It's a long weekend.
Looks like the weekend landed on my side.
Tara.
Tada.
Tada.
Oh, man.
Why nicks don't be with it?
Anyway, man.
The kid's tough.
What's up?
What's popper?
What's poppy?
Happy Valentine's Day to the fellas.
Happy Valentine's Day to all these involved fellas in here.
Come on, man.
Talk about it.
Hey, I see you new age niggas doing fellas times.
They're doing that?
I've seen a few.
I've seen a few.
Fellas times?
Fellas times.
But the girls have their Galantines.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
I'm not trying to take Galantines from the girls.
That's disgusting.
Gay and talk.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
That's what?
Gay and time.
What are we talking about?
First, what's Galantown?
I'm slow.
First of all,
what's Galant's time?
When a whole bunch of girls get together
and have an excuse in which to celebrate
some shit and get drunk.
That's it.
And man bash.
Got you.
On Valentine's Day.
No, no.
It's usually a day before.
It's like a day before.
Got you.
It's fly.
I think that's dope.
So now we're going to get together to do that?
No.
Exactly.
Okay.
Yeah, that's weird.
Not we.
But someone out there.
Some men out there.
Why is it so gay for fellas to get together?
We just had this is the Super Bowl.
Yeah.
You know what makes it gay?
Well, not gay.
Not gay, let's start.
Yeah, yeah, let me stop.
But because you're doing it because the girls are doing it.
Like, because they got their own shit that they named and themed it out.
So now you feel like, oh, if y'all got that, we got to go get this.
We got to have palat.
That's where it gets to be.
Palantime.
Yeah, what the fuck are you doing?
It might not be gay, but it's a little sassy at least.
We can say that, right?
It's very, very sassy.
Very.
Very.
Very sassy.
Like let the women have something.
We don't care.
Well, what is everyone's Valentine's Day plans here?
Come on.
You know, I was scramble.
Because y'all, y'all taught me that we're going to the new edition
Boys to Men show tonight the night before Valentine's Day.
I thought that would get me over.
Y'all, y'all, y'all gave me an understanding.
Yeah, that ain't the case.
It's not enough.
Shit to do it.
Apparently is just coincidence, right?
Yeah, just what happens is that it was at there.
So I'm trying to find a way to do something tomorrow,
and I couldn't figure nothing out.
and then Jill Scott announced
that she's gonna be at the Blue Note.
Oh, is she?
Yeah, on Valentine's Day, two sets,
one at 8 and one at 1030.
That's sexy.
That's fine.
Looky here.
Yeah.
I'm gonna see you there, buddy.
Say the letters.
Mark, Mark.
Jill Scott at the Blue Note.
That's what I'm saying.
One Valentine's.
I got to find a babysitter.
That's the only thing.
Yeah.
But it's about to be.
Perfect about to propose.
Propose what?
Did we go to after hours?
That's a good.
That's hilarious.
That's a good one.
Yeah, no, so that's our movement.
She was sold out within an hour of the tickets,
so I had to make a phone call.
I'm sure y'all can make the same phone calls and get in there,
but I would say make them phone calls now.
Yeah, about to.
Because you know how tight it is in there.
Yeah, oh, yeah, that's a fact.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, so I better make the phone.
It's called.
Yeah.
I need that table in that fucking, that's New Orleans seafood soup.
You keep talking about that.
Whatever that soup is, I need parts.
Hey, yo, you are a foodie for real.
He speaks of the blue note in that particular soup.
Your shit is delicious.
Every time they name come on.
One of the better soups in New York City.
Yeah, that soup is delicious.
It is.
That's one of my move.
That and the garlic shrimp in there, I eat that.
I eat that.
How you talk?
Mmm.
Yeah.
You're greedy.
You are.
We also want to spend time with our ladies.
We say, too.
I'm about the thing we're talking about celebrating our ladies.
And we talk about soup.
All right, so Jill Scott, that's a good idea.
That's a good idea.
I am going to try to get in there.
Yes, same too.
Same.
Is what you up to?
Shit.
He don't celebrate the shit.
He don't do Valentine's Day.
He buys flowers every week.
Every day is Valentine's Day.
Slagging off.
Oh, damn.
So, nothing for real?
Probably a month ago.
Oh, it's doing it.
There's people that, you're good.
They're not doing nothing for real.
No, he ain't doing it.
Got it.
Does your, if you don't mind me,
ask, does your lady, did she do that before you?
I don't think she.
She wasn't familiar with that.
Life didn't exist before me, bro.
I know, I'm joking, I don't know.
You know what I answered that?
No, because.
What was the question?
Did she do Valentine's Day before him?
Because she lived the whole life
and then if you're going to be with somebody
and then Valentine's Day just stops.
I didn't take it like she didn't.
All that's a blur.
It's like, no, I'm glad.
You're talking.
I'm joking, but no, I don't know, but
like, I'll tell you all that shit from day one.
Like, I don't do Halloween and I don't do Valentine.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
The first date?
No, no.
Let's get this out of the way now.
No Halloween.
You don't know.
You're not getting no hearts in the car.
I was like, nah.
It's just been a long time.
So she already know.
Like, we don't, we do the other.
That's the typical shit we do on the norm.
So it's not.
Got you.
I mean, see.
We got a nice.
of dinner, planned out.
Got some shit for her.
I am going to try to piece in that blue load later.
Where are your kids going to be when y'all do that?
Weekend free this weekend.
I was just going to jump mine off.
You know, we can't.
Nigger, yeah.
I know.
They get dropped off the day, and my daughter's with her mom's
until Wednesday.
So, yeah.
That's nice.
Yeah.
Parks?
You know, a little romantic dinner, a little bag.
You know, a little chocolates, a little, yeah, I mean?
Cute shit.
Bag.
A bag of chocolate.
Oh,
oh,
yeah.
We thought you were like Birkin.
It's like Burko.
Yeah.
Burko Chanel.
You know what I mean?
No, no.
Okay.
Okay, okay.
You know,
Furt's really to do that.
Maybe Christmas.
Yeah.
I see you got your little cable crew on.
You're ready.
Hair cut.
It's romance weekend.
Yeah, you go.
I see you.
I see you.
I see you.
Joe.
Yeah, Joe.
Don't try to dodge this.
It's more.
Take a sip.
Nick, no, no, no, no, no.
Because I'm like, I don't have anything planned.
I don't have anything planned at all.
Like, we talk.
Listen, from my birthday to-
That's a good Valentine's Day gift.
Talk.
Talk.
Let's sit you down and have a combo.
From my birthday to New Year's Day, there's too many birthdays and kids' birthdays.
By the time Valentine's Day gets here, I'm drained, y'all.
I'm drained.
And we're trying to save.
So it's like, yeah, we'll go to the new edition
Boys to Men concert.
We'll try to go to the Jill Scott concert.
We'll try to do dinner.
How about to you, y'all do food?
Other than that, I mean, shit, not even really.
You ain't going to be eating.
That's a good point.
Not even really.
So we're on some weight loss journey, shit together.
We used to be foodies.
That black gets you in anywhere you want to go.
Yeah, when Mark first got the job,
he told me he made a call.
That was one of the perks.
We had two years later.
I'm going to call you.
Let me call him.
I told you what happened before.
My man was a little antsy, but I'm on it now.
I think the dust is cleared.
I think you're good now.
Thanks.
Thanks.
I was with my man one day.
That nigga called Carbone.
That shit was a book.
The nix said, now you gotta do something.
I said, oh, you could do that?
That was nice.
I mean, he could, he could do that on his name.
Good point.
You don't even need the black fuck, then.
Make that call.
What you're fucking fucking fucking fucking.
You're talking.
Yeah, yeah.
Make the cold.
Let's make that cool.
Okay.
And I can't even think of what reason, right?
What?
I can't think of the reason.
But yeah.
There's really no reason, but who can't?
It's different perks.
I'll tell you, when I was flying this week, I'm with you.
I was in the Delta Sky Lounge and there was just too many people.
And then you go to Centaurian Lounge and there's nobody there.
It's a better setup and it was like nobody in there.
Okay.
And nobody, yeah, that's the best thing about the Blackheart.
Stotry.
Niggas in that Delta Lounge, we're talking all over the can of it.
Yo, for real.
And then, boy,
don't you done that canelo.
Some white people go right to that fruit.
Yeah.
They pick, pick up a couple strawberries,
toss them down.
White people in them fruit plates in Delta Lounge.
You don't want the squishy strawberries.
No, no, no.
It's fucked up, right?
You're a fucking idiot.
My girl liked to eat the fruit,
so she walked over there,
them white people be a toy.
No, then they gotta stop.
You want one of these?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, then they gotta ask the seven kids back there
all the way back there.
I ain't gonna lie.
Running around.
Bumping into black people, not saying,
excuse me.
My fuckers are cough right in the elevator
and don't say,
you're like your fan putting in your elbow or something.
What fuck is wrong with you?
I don't think some of them is the most hygienic,
but we'll talk about it when we get to Pan Bondi.
I'm not disagree with you.
When we talk,
when we get to that Pan Bondi topic,
I watch that shit
and made conclusions.
Me too.
Long time thoughts.
I was just like, oh.
I was judging from, yeah.
And I think she was up there to confirm some shit.
I don't think they're trying to hide it too.
And that at all.
Like, God, damn.
But we'll get to it later.
All right, so everybody's Valentine's Day
is going to be amazing.
Please send my regards to each of your lovely ladies.
We'll have a good time today, too.
Oh, tonight's going to be great.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
I can say, you're more than welcome.
I'm gonna try and crash this week.
I can't figure out if you and your wife
was like one of those couples that, like, when you're all out,
y'all just like to be on your own couple time?
No, no, we would love to.
It's just, we, we, I bought, before I knew you were having a suite,
we bought tickets.
So we front row, so it's got a hard to pull it from the front rows.
Oh, yeah, no, you know what I mean?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I said, I'd rather hang with y'all.
No, you're front row.
You're front row.
Yeah.
Nigger, Juan Ye might do unbended knee in front of you.
You know, Yon Ye started getting extra.
Yeah, you can get extra.
Extra sauce.
Oh, man.
Speaking of Valentine's, well, no, let's say rest in peace.
Yeah, I'll start there.
Let's start with a rest in peace.
James Vanderbeek.
James Vanderbeek passed away.
Mark, you know you are rest in peace, dude.
Why are you trying to be quiet?
I forget the senior death correspondent here.
I don't know.
Yes.
Well, I mean, he passed away.
A few days ago from rectal colon cancer.
Tragic, honestly.
He'd been fighting for the last few years valiantly, but...
Young, right? 48?
48 years old.
Ironically passed away, the same day Whitney Houston passed away at the same age.
Just a weird cosmic coincidence.
But really sad.
Obviously, most people know him from Dawson's Creek.
He's done other roles.
He's been on FX shows.
He's been on ABC show for a year.
But Dawson's crew,
Creek is where he grew a cult following and where he became the face and the name that everybody knows.
But more importantly than just being a talented actor, people know him as a great spirit.
People say he was a good friend.
And in an industry like Hollywood, where people don't have a lot of good things to say about a lot of people, about a lot of people.
He's one of the few people who had almost universal praise and love.
I mean, everybody's come out to talk about him.
The other thing for me real fast is just he was the last few years doing fundraisers and people were trying to help him with him.
his health care as he was dealing with this cancer.
And it's just a reminder that even famous people in this country,
even people who we think are just fine still often don't have the means and resources
to take care of their health in a fundamental way.
And that says something about who we are.
I don't say nothing about him.
It says who we are as a country.
So I hated that he had to go through the last few years of his life with any kind
of struggle.
But he was surrounded by love.
He was surrounded by lots of people who came out to see him in his final days.
And we just wish his family all of those.
love and condones and healing that we can offer.
Yeah, for sure. Definitely.
Also, excuse me, I'm not as good at these as you are,
but I just want to send a rest and peace out to Chenet, Chen Curry.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
If you, anywhere in New York City, you've bumped into Chenet.
Like, she was just one of the coolest people ever.
She recently passed away from, she had cancer.
It came.
She had beat cancer, and then it came back very aggressive.
and I want to shout out to her friends and family at this time, everybody.
Like, she impacted a lot of people.
Bro, I didn't have a privilege of knowing her, but last night I got so many texts from people.
Like, yo, she passed.
And they said it just matter-factly, like just her name.
Right.
Because I was supposed to know her because everybody knows her.
And again, people were, I mean, the last few days she's been in a hospice, I guess.
Yeah.
And people have just been, it's just an outcry of love and support.
And people are devastated.
Yeah, no, this fucked a lot of people up.
Like, I've been talking to people.
It's like, damn.
These are your peers.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
And they were having a benefit for her.
Well, this is last night as the time of this recording.
In Brooklyn and just, you know, everybody just showing out, just show her some love, man.
And cover her family, cover.
And fuck cancer, man.
Word, that ass.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I'm playing outstanding.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sorry to start off so heavy, but yeah, fuck it.
We're here.
I am.
Throw it on.
There we go.
Real shit though, the other day I'm, y'all know I've been on this mission to like clear all the distractions from my Instagram page.
So I just been trying to just unfollow all the holes that I don't know.
In doing that, I saw so many people that we've lost over the years that I just never went to unfollow.
And I was just stuck on, I'm stuck on Hovane's page.
Best and peace, Hovane.
Best and peace, man.
Word.
Talking about him the other day.
Home girl, Nini that passed away the bartender, rest in peace.
Off the fucking, she bought a vape.
Yeah, she bought a vape, and there was some shit in the vape.
God damn, bro.
Yeah.
Right, but in the James Vanderbeek news, Mark already told you a lot of people came to pay their, pay their well wishes and respects.
One of those people was Carlton.
Yes, Alfonso Rivera.
Yep.
Yeah.
And the picture that was taken and posted seemed to have the internet in a little bit of a frazzle.
It did.
A little bit, a little bit of a frazzle.
The picture was an embrace.
Carton had his hand behind James's head, like the back of his head, eyes closed.
And you never just know what the internet is going to make fun of, right?
You lose somebody that you're extremely close to.
They're in their last moments.
Whatever your spirit leads you to do, you do it.
That's where I fall on that.
But, uh...
However.
Come on.
I didn't.
No, no, no, I did it.
I did it.
I did it.
I did it.
I did it.
Because if I do it, like somebody more than you, come on, somebody.
Because who thought?
Who would do it?
Anybody from...
The bars had held it.
I never thought nobody from Dawson's Creek was straight.
So it didn't shock me.
It never shocked me.
I was like, oh, show.
The wife let this go on.
Okay, just to be clear, the wife took the picture.
See, no, no.
I'm just giving some fast.
That's where no.
No, sorry.
Sorry that I'm supposed to be mature.
No.
on my last day
my wife is not taking a picture
of one of my men's
grabbing the back of my scalp
palm the shit with his eyes closed
almost mouth to mouth with me
sorry buddy what do you want me to say
he could have got a
I mean he probably did that
this is what he wrote he said this was taken by
Vander Kimberley that's that's his wife
just a few minutes before I said my last goodbye
my last moment was making him laugh
one last time
I really miss him
See, that even sounds.
Already.
I don't even like how it sounds.
Even though he didn't say nothing wrong.
That's how I know I'm toxic.
Mark save us.
No, please.
I don't know if I'm going to be very helpful here.
I didn't think anything like sexual was happening.
I just think it's a weird photo to post your man right before he died.
It is.
That for me was the thing.
Like, you could post it.
There's a picture right before that one that, you know, that was like, you know, yeah.
Like me and my man kicking.
Oh, that one looks a little bit like more tender.
But all of that's better than Woody Post.
I didn't say that.
But don't, don't post.
Yes, it is.
That one.
That's bad.
Man, you ain't got no pics like that.
We don't.
That ain't bad.
That's not bad at all.
It's not bad.
We compare it to what he posted, though.
Yeah.
All of them look gay.
No, it don't.
It's levels then.
No.
Every one of them.
They look like they was like.
locked in a warm embrace.
I just don't think it's the picture that you necessarily post because you're a veteran
in the entertainment industry and you know what the internet's going to do with that picture
and they're not going to have any empathy for what you're going through.
I would also like to be remembered looking like me.
That's true.
Let me say that like that.
Yeah, that's it for me.
It's just, it's a bad look.
I don't want the world to see him like that if that's my man.
Right.
Yeah, like that.
So again, I'm going to post this.
picture something like this with us laughing and joking
and being remembered in good times. That's e-harmonie.
Yeah, that's true. Don't even post me on my deathbed.
That part. Yeah. Yeah, that's that.
Why are you in my deathbed like this? And get off my head.
So I'm fucking grabbing me.
Yo, sometimes I had, sometimes some of my people was dying
and I went to the hospital to say my goodbyes and the room was crowded
with family. So I just peaked in the door.
Gail.
Came a little.
All right.
Hey, we had a time.
What'd you do if the room is crowded with family?
You just walk in there anyway?
Yeah.
If it's your people like that.
The problem is people will be showing up
when you're not really close enough to be there anyway.
You are a monster, bro.
I ain't a double parked by hydrant.
Ain't no parking in the dog.
It's a little packed in there.
I'll come back another day.
It's not the club, nigga.
Hey, you died on a Friday night.
Yeah.
Nigger.
You know if you were alive, you'd want me to be a little.
That's fucked up.
I'm joking.
Refer to the tag in the front.
These are all jokes, I promise you.
But also, kind of not, though.
Tatiana can wait, my nigga.
That's your problem.
I used, you too, guys,
you got the perfect dome piece, too,
for me to grab a wife.
They got instructions.
Yo, don't let Joe in here.
You got the perfect...
Noggin'noggin.
And they're going to be rubbing the back of your neck.
What?
That's crazy.
Can't be show up, man.
And that shit is a twin size.
Wait, what?
What is Carl?
Wait, what are we talking about?
The bed.
Oh.
But he wasn't in the bed.
You want to kick side's hospital bed?
What are you talking about?
He's laying in the bed with the nigger.
Is he?
Nah.
He's not like side of the bed.
It's like a lean.
Yeah, he leaned over, bro.
He leaned over.
Y'all are talking around.
All right.
All right.
Listen.
Is Carlton gay?
No.
I don't know.
No.
No, he's married.
No, I don't think so.
So.
No.
I ain't, I ain't put that on.
Okay, it's a new music come out.
He's married to a white woman.
The new music come out.
You got like five kids.
We don't know that he's gay.
Yeah, let's say that.
We don't know that he's gay.
He's as straight as anybody in Hollywood.
See, you?
What?
Mark play around too much.
And again, we plan around.
I have no reason to believe he's gay as well.
That's what I said.
Yeah, I have no reason to believe he's gay.
Other than that picture.
And this shit.
If one of y'all was on your dead best,
I probably would just do some gay shit while y'all would.
Oh, you would definitely do the inch.
I would do some Josh Hart's shit.
You come here and the towel be more.
There is shit all saw.
You say some dumb shit.
You all are crazy.
All right, caught in the straight.
We can move on.
I'm not mature.
Yeah, sorry for you.
Sorry, man.
For sure.
All right.
That picture was crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
I'd be fucking skeptical
skeptical about even taking a picture at wakes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't think that's the place for pictures, you know.
Funerals, any of that.
Hospitals, funeral rules?
I used to feel that way.
And then somebody, like, I'm not mad at somebody taking the picture, like for their own
memory.
Oh, yeah, posting is crazy.
It's the posting part for me.
You know, I'm not mad at that.
You know, my man?
I'm not mad at that.
I'm not a fan of it, but I'm not.
It's the posting for me.
I lost one of my best friends.
like last year,
Russ and Bies Hadley
and my man took a picture
like hugging him
in the joint.
Oh God.
I was like that's a lot.
Did you post it?
Maybe.
He's not famous.
So I mean,
you know,
Facebook or so.
I'm cool.
That makes it different too.
It's like 50 people
are going to see it
versus like in this case
50 million.
No, that don't make a difference
because all it take is the wrong one
and now 100 million saw it.
People be posting shit thinking
it's only going to stay in their little circle
and then one person go share it over here
and next thing you know it's viral.
Yeah.
That's why I'm just
The private moment shit
I don't think should be posted.
I agree.
Feudorals, don't post it.
Personally.
I'm not even inviting y'all to my,
if I'm about to go
and I'm on my last,
I don't give a fuck if you didn't come say goodbye,
nigga.
I'm out.
So the text.
Read about it on fucking X when they tell you.
No, no.
You don't control that.
You ain't going to be able to control anything.
when we get we don't do it
I'm going live
man I'm a bus up in the motherfucker
fuck it you're talking about
you don't control that
look at Mark subscribe the page you got to move
somewhere
you want to keep
you want to keep this great content
coming I know it's place for you
Mark didn't you say
well I said it too so I can't even make too much fun of you
but I was joking when I said it
that home boy that J. Cole
was calling a bitch ass nigger all throughout that
song. Yeah. I was joking
when I was like, yo, homeboy, if you
out there, he hit me.
Yo, come up here and we would love to talk to you.
I'm being performative.
But he reached
out to a few people. He hit us.
He hit me. He hit y'all.
Yo, I'm the nigger on the song.
I want to come up. He said, I'm punk bitch.
How did you verify this?
I am punk bitch.
You know there's a bunch of people that probably will be willing to be
punk bitch for a week.
How would you, he DM'd y'all?
Yeah.
Saying, yo, it's me and I want to come up there.
Did he hit your director through your man that sends you to speak?
Well, you know exactly.
No, I'm not sure they did it get vetted.
You hit him back?
No, nigga.
Send your man after.
And they also, just in a thing, they showed him the person.
He got a video out.
Yeah, he did.
I saw that.
Yeah, well.
Money grip.
I'm not, the nigga.
Money grip.
Yeah.
I just be up here talking, man.
I don't really want to talk, man.
Well, come on, man.
Sir, Mr. Bung, bitch.
Mr. Bish, I have no standards.
Come to the mark of my whole, Patriot.
I will get, fuck that concert today.
I'll be live.
I got you.
Mark, dead ass, too.
Oh, I'm not even Joe.
He's not playing.
Mr. Bish.
You know, the funny shit is that would go up two feet.
And what?
Oh, my God.
I try to hit Glorella sister.
Oh shit.
Wait, what?
Yeah.
Shit.
What is you saying?
I tried.
I tried, man.
Apparently, she's Hollywood.
I want to clown them, but that would be fired.
Are you kidding me?
I tried to do this shit like four days ago.
I won't go tell me.
You know, I don't tell nobody until it's up.
I would have paid her.
Nick, I was trying to.
25.
I knew I went free.
You, dog, $3,500 had her with a new chain.
My mom will get you to match your bracelet.
But now she, now she curbed me.
You got to talk to my people.
Oh, she got people
Oh, she got representation
She got people
Oh, so I hit her
You got to talk to my people
Then I heard her people
Up and the people
Ain't hit me back here
I'm gonna go
All right, I'll talk to me
I was out of gave
$5,000 for the interview
I'd have started with $2,500
But I don't went up to $5,000
for the interview
They too busy
Now she said she made $200,000 last week
What?
That's what she said
I don't know if it's true
But she said she made $200,000
last year you see it with the new chain
And she advertised
It's all on her
All on her Instagram page
She don't need me
That's okay
Give her mouth
Hey, yo, you got your little.
Ooh.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Oh, I'm sorry, but I'm talking about.
Yeah, you got to.
Hey, y'all ain't even know you had thighs, my dick.
Audience, audience.
Audience, give us a minute.
Yeah, we need some music.
We got any more music.
Bandy alert.
No, come on.
What do you?
What should that be playing?
I got you.
I got it.
Huh?
Huh?
Huh?
You got the fish next on with the thighs?
Hey.
Big D' Mona in the building.
That's what you're doing on these niggas.
Happy birthday.
Mona, you look great.
You look marvelous.
I appreciate that.
I want the people to know he just had Britney Spears
queued up like that.
I did.
Oh, you were good.
You had the mini on with him with the old Catholic school girl.
You might have had that skirt rolled up at the bus stop.
When I plant is on, I kept saying, you got to be girl if you wear a skirt.
You got to be a shirt.
You got to be a shirt.
If you were,
Hey fellas.
Mona, you look good.
You look great, though.
It's my birthday.
Happy birthday.
Yeah, thanks, guys.
28 now, right?
Yeah.
Happy birthday.
28 plus something plus something.
Well, you know.
Did you celebrate last night?
A little bit.
Just something at the house.
We went to go get food.
But my birthday party tonight.
Where?
Where?
In the hood.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
My best first said to me,
because we were talking about the party or something.
Mark ain't got no juice out there, right?
She said that we've been like sticking them in like hood,
ratchet places to do birthday parties for years now.
It's in Philly at Delaware.
It's in Delaware.
Oh, yeah.
Because I work, so we've got to be an at the hour going to look.
Got you.
Got you.
That's right.
That's right.
After the hours.
I ain't get a fly at your little chin.
You wouldn't come to that.
So?
You still want the fly.
You wouldn't.
Oh, y'all went to.
So still with the fly.
That's crazy.
My girl got the heels on with the lace on.
With the leather and the,
Yo, I ain't gonna hold you.
Fog me now, skirts.
Yeah, you look like you're the beginning
of the porn scene.
These don't get, right.
You don't get.
I'm telling you, you know.
In the ultimate life, people are that.
That's shut up.
Yeah.
What's up?
What's happening?
Joe is crazy
In another world
I guess I see you next time
He will be a brother
You look good
You look good
I'm so happy we're here
Happy birthday
It said you look like the beginning
of the porn scene
Yo that's fun
I'm lying as though
No no
That's spot on
And I feel like she was going
For that look too
I wasn't
This isn't even mini skirt
Come on
With the fish nets
And the boot come on
With the button down Oxford
The boot is giving gau
Like I don't want to teach you
The golf chicks be...
The golf chicks be homes, too.
You want to?
I don't fuck holes, so I don't know.
Y'all got to hit me.
I didn't know.
You have the ones you can shit on.
Don't tap me, nigga.
What y'all was doing, yo?
That's that out.
That's my can't stay.
Who do you think Bing was talking about?
I take it back.
He's with you.
I take it back.
He's making a point now.
He's going to crazy.
Jesus.
We were just talking about Bro Rilla saying that she made $200 grand.
$200,000.
Mark was going to get on her show.
Last month, right?
Or last week.
Last week.
Oh, last week.
She didn't exist last month.
Word.
Congrats.
Salute.
I don't think she understands, like, numerically.
Like, when she gets the numbers, I don't think she get it.
Because when the guy from TMZ said, how much.
How much would you want if she, if the Gorilla made $2 million, how much would you want?
She says $2,500.
I'm sure every nigga she's seen for the rest of the month said,
why the fuck you say $2,500 or not?
Like, I don't think she gets how small a percentage $2,500 is with $2 million.
Because she's special needs, guys.
Mark offered her five bands.
That's right.
I was going to start with $25.
Mark was trying to do an interview.
And I wanted to clown him about it.
Because I'm poor.
I couldn't imagine you doing that.
You would really do that?
Yes.
He does.
I still will.
Call me.
Bro, he's going to call.
This is the thing, though, right?
And I'm not joking.
I hate that.
I hate that this girl's about to be on Bad Girls Club
and have this all.
You know what I mean?
I think it's really, it's terrible
that anybody would support something like that.
And it's so crazy.
They're in the comments because I said something like,
oh, this is bullshit.
She's a bummer, whatever.
And that's how you got your start.
Right, bitch, don't be a hater.
And it's like, no, I didn't get my start
by, like, hating on my family member
and then going viral.
Like, that's crazy.
I just feel like the way everybody
Love Gloverlin was all happy for
to get the deal and all that.
Why would we push that?
What she's doing is fucked up.
If it happened to any one of us,
we'd be talking about this shit all day.
Look my bitch-ass cousin, you know?
Yeah, it's fucked up.
She shouldn't do that.
I'm going to get to the bottom of it.
On Patreon.
I'm going to bring her to the carpet.
Exactly.
And not that first year.
Dope-ass, performative ass, rant about the fucking loser sibling.
I've been beefing with one of my siblings.
I bet you are.
Yo, you lie.
I cannot believe.
that. Is it coincidence?
That's like one of those things that happened privately that I ain't
never supposed to share, but I'm
still kind of flammaggasted by it.
Wait, they think you were talking about them?
No, nigger, share. Or is it coincidence?
Is it a coincidence, or is it because of what you said?
I didn't go through something, I think.
I'll call him after he cool down.
Did he say that he thought it was about this?
Yeah, he said a lot.
Yeah, he said quite a bit.
Bro, we just pot.
That's crazy.
You just potty.
I was just talking about the other civilization.
That's what you say.
I'm not talking about none of my siblings.
God damn it anyway.
Look, Rarilla said,
like that's what I'm saying?
What do you know about your sister?
Like, you know she got that idea,
but you know that's advanced, though.
You got to get that back.
Bro, she's been on four years, bro.
She got endorsement with sheen, all types of shit.
Shee.
Hey, yeah, she got inducement with sheen.
I'm Googling her network every day and getting mad at mail.
That's lying, though.
That's a lot.
She do that.
She do got to do it for a change.
Let's Google her network.
You know, I want a clown, bro, really, but I think she's funny.
But, yes, I do think she's special needs, too.
I think she's slow.
Honestly, I don't.
But why are you such a fan of Fennas two times?
Thank you.
Same question.
First of all, if anything, Phinez is like,
you know how Rameen had them talents and shit?
If anything, Vanessa will be one of them.
He has very, like a precise talent of rhyming,
beat making stuff like that
and he's a performer like I know he's
egging it on you know what I mean
that nigga really think that she didn't do
like got her sister billions of dollars
like she's slow for real but this ain't new
the internet love making these motherfuckers famous
I hate it we've been doing this
for 15 years now
20 years that's true I don't get why
like that's supposed like I just don't get how that's a positive thing
like it's just it's trifling
We need to ignore her
Exactly it's grounded in envy
because you're supposed to
support your favorite person.
When Gloverilla still had the first face teeth and all that.
Everybody love her.
She on a maxima.
Now she got an NBA nigga to that.
Nails the envy slide in.
That's all it is.
And I feel like people at home, I want you to pay attention to that.
Not just an NBA nigga, an all-star.
These rap girlies got y'all just thinking that y'all could go get the G-League nigga
and put certain bars in your songs and think that you live in your rap.
No, Glorilla has an all-star.
If you turn the TV on this weekend, you'll see him.
You bitches don't.
It's a separation.
Everybody be like, oh, fucking a happy, nigga.
I'll have relax.
The fact that you said,
yo, I'm checking her network every day
on the internet is crazy.
Like, that's crazy.
I wish her to best,
and I hope she's getting a coin.
I think that she's funny.
A little slow.
A couple sandwiches short of her picnic.
But I do think she's funny.
What the fuck she said about Boosie?
She said Boosie looked like a what?
That shit was funny.
She went on you too.
Oh, what did she?
No, she killed me.
No, she didn't.
No, she killed you.
She killed Charlotte Maine.
She killed.
She didn't kill nobody yet.
The person she makes the most fun of she's not trying to, which is herself.
And I wish her the worst.
I hope that strap has gonorrhea on it the next time you use it.
Oh, God damn.
Oh, shit.
That's not right.
She's about to have some bars for you.
No, why?
No, she not.
Why?
Why am I supposed to support that?
Like, why?
Like, why am I supposed to want the best for her?
Why?
It's grounded in envy and jealousy and nastiness.
Nothing good going to come from it ever.
So fuck, no, I'm not pushing.
Oh, you a year, no.
Bitch, go to Amazon.
You know what I'm saying?
How the fuck we gonna get packages
and people like you ain't in there packing this shit?
Everybody has a role.
Everybody can't be no fucking chief, baby.
Okay, we need Indians, babe.
Bro, really, you want her in charge and shit
making decisions?
No, you want that bitch packing your fucking dishes
that you order.
That's what you want.
Not even dishes plastic.
I'm about to say, I don't.
I doubt the bitch can hand the way.
Yeah, I don't think that's going to work out.
What the fuck?
Oh, all right.
You can't be in lots of feelings.
I like it.
I like it.
I like birthday mode.
A confession that's doing something for you out.
All right, what else needs our attention?
What else needs our attention?
What else is important?
What else are we passionate about?
Takes galore.
Takes galore today.
Going once.
Going twice.
You know we wrote a whole board of shit.
Thoughts?
I don't segue.
Are y'all?
I'm not going to wait for the segue guys.
Who's the segue guys?
We're all segues.
We all do it.
You mark an ice.
There's no hierarchy up here.
No, that's bullshit.
Shut up, Mark.
You do the segways, ICE will segues.
Me and Ish nod and yell.
I provide commentary and opinions.
Ice and Mark do the segways.
I say the ghetto shit.
We do this a lot.
He's right.
He's right and what he's saying, but he's wrong.
Because, I mean, I think Ish will kill a Segway.
I think he would, too.
But he's too cool to...
That's what I think it is.
I just think he feel like he's too cool to Segway shit,
which is crazy to me.
I'm too cool to Segway shit,
but I can give a long-ass dog.
a trial about the topic.
That's your bad.
Show us a segue.
That's your bad.
Hey, Mark.
We got you.
Everybody's going to segue.
Hey, Mark.
Everybody chill out.
Go ahead.
I'm going to work on.
Get us there.
I'm going to start watching the pod.
I'm going to work on.
I'm going to start watching the pod is crazy.
Or you read one of those.
Yo.
Oh, man.
Oh, shit.
Gene.
All right.
Well.
I was going to say.
saving for later, but Gene Simmons, y'all heard Gene Simmons?
Nah, no.
You got to go to the Jay Cole next.
I'm not talking about Gene Simmons before I talk about
Jermaine Cole.
Yeah, yeah.
So what's the J. Cole situation?
This is still a black, somewhat black.
Somewhat black.
This is a somewhat black brooket.
I do when I start that he did 300,000 first week.
I don't know if we really touched upon that.
So round of applause.
Round of applause for that.
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
That's real.
That's big boy numbers.
Yeah, it is.
That's superstar numbers.
And that's based on streams.
I'm sure stream sales.
He's based on everything they're based on.
The Civic.
No, I don't know.
Because he was selling shit off the Civic.
I don't know if those don't count.
No, he's probably said it every single yet.
So that don't count yet.
That's what I was saying.
No.
When the 300 was first reported, it said I think 110 was sales.
I believe it.
And shit, that 110 is hired than what niggas do with streams.
Yeah, word.
That's crazy.
Congratulations.
I told you I he killed Bruno Morris.
Guys, did you all?
I'm going to throw Batman.
Do you remember you saying, like putting it out there that whoever the guy was he was talking about to tap in with you?
Oh, shit.
So you know that DM in shit.
Right when you walked in, we were talking about that.
He hit everybody.
He hit all of us.
Oh, so that's actually him.
I just assumed, you know, I literally, I wrote back, I just put a little cat.
Like, I just, you know, I thought he was lying to me.
You sent it over to me.
No, he sent him to DMs just packed with people begging for shit.
Mark is one of the people begging for shit.
Yes.
That's so funny, though.
You was being for Ciches.
You don't want to talk to you.
Oh, boy, I'm never going to talk to you.
Yes, thank you.
There's no world, universe, planet, or anywhere where I'm going to talk to you.
No, get out of you.
I would never risk my non-existent Jay Cole relationship.
Hey, hey, I never met Jane Cole.
Check this out.
Hey, I never spoke to him, text them, DM them.
We have no relationship.
And I'm still not going to talk.
Sorry, Buckley.
one of these niggas
you're all, come on.
One of these niggas you can talk to.
Not one of them.
Here take the interview.
Not me. Right this one.
Yo.
Yo.
Yeah, what the fuck is going on?
Ice, you were supposed to fix this thing.
Oh, that's funny.
Oh, shit.
Your brother hit you from a pay phone.
Oh, shit.
He had a pay phone.
Yeah.
Oh, my name.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
The pay phone was on next to her.
Brother was wrong, but that was wrong.
But that was flammar.
You know, the payphone was flagrant.
Yeah, I want to be very clear that I wasn't talking about nobody that I am related to.
I was going to make that clear because Mark is funny.
Yeah, be careful because Mark are interviewing them too.
Oh, my God.
See, that's what I wouldn't do.
Let me take something.
You interview one of my baby dads and we're done.
I would never interview nobody y'all close to.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
No, I'll play about it.
Okay.
So Jermaine Cole did three.
Congratulations to Jay Cole.
Really big number.
I'm not shocked by it.
He is still Big Three.
I know I know the narrative.
I'm all tired of it.
But he is.
He is him.
And he's in the Civic.
He's driving around.
He's meeting with his fans.
Big turnouts at a lot of colleges.
I saw Axe say that it was performative.
What's wrong with performers being performing?
Yeah, words.
And you still stand to who you are, though.
That's the part where I don't care if that,
I don't even call that performance
Bro, if that nigga has a performer.
Yeah.
No, I'm getting out.
Marketing my album.
That's a marketing.
That too.
Fuck we talk them out.
And it works because even people like,
I've said it at a thousand times I'm not a fan,
but that makes me interested that he's riding around in Civic.
You bring new people in.
True.
That's when you spoke to be performing when you fucking promote him.
He picked fans up and let him get in the car and listen to the album.
That's so lit.
Took a picture in front of the Civic with this one girl that was beautiful.
Took a picture, right?
I didn't see it wasn't no crowd.
Don't just look like they was alone.
He took a picture with this one really, really beautiful girl in front of the Civic that I, that's the one I saw.
I saw that one too.
That's the one I saw.
Networking.
Networking.
Yeah, that's all.
But I love the idea.
I love the idea.
I think it's genius.
And there's a billion ways for you to be performing.
Look at the way that he chose.
Right.
That's true.
Right.
Look at what he chose and what it represents.
Like, honestly, the Civic.
I was just about saying it ties directly into who he seems to be in the public.
I think more people should be performative.
Yeah.
Like, and be human beings.
Like, go out there and not be too cool and just post it on the internet and fly expensive clothes.
Like, that's cool, dope.
But, like, going out and meeting people is more beneficial.
Touching your real fan base organically, that shit is fire.
I love it.
And again, if he sold 4,000 copies on the campus at $10.
a pop or twilight, whatever the fuck he's selling them for,
nigger, he's still running a business and he's
an indie, you crazy? It's a great idea.
It's amazing. It's an amazing idea. It's nostalgic. I'm sure
all of these units will somehow count. I'm sure.
Bro, if they don't count.
They're in my pocket? If they won't make more people buy it.
Yes, that's my thing. Making more people buy you.
Just seeing all that effort you put in, it makes you want to get to be a part of it.
Like, it's smart.
Cole is always brilliant with the marketing plans. And it's always
like some regular shit, which is
fly.
His brand is...
Dollar in a dream.
Yeah.
I just feel like
even with the
we're calling the
performing of like
we just so super cool now
like we just so
we gotta be so cool
like everybody has to be
unbothered and you don't care
about nothing and you don't put
too much effort and it's bullshit
we all freaks,
we all overthinking,
we all stress the fuck out
we're all afraid the world's
going to blow up so it's like
why we can't just you know
I hate that about the world
exactly and not doing shit
is also performative
because you want your shit to do well
you want to be out there
you want to be so I can too cool
and that's performative too
really good point. That's a really good point. That's a great point. When you're not using your
powers for evil, you'd be smoking shit, man. You'd be used to. Almost like a doctor.
So yeah, congratulations to Jay Cole. I hope you're having a blast out there.
Wait, so what happened with the lawsuit? So his company, his lawyer and his company, Cold World,
denied allegations, of course, but they also asked for the lawsuit filed by Cameron to be
dismissed with prejudice, meaning that it can't be refiled again. Yeah, he can't do it.
that'll be a final binding judgment.
And exactly what they said was,
the relief requested requires no response
as there are no facts alleged therein.
To the extent any response is required,
defendants deny the allegations in the relief requested,
object to the relief requested,
and deny that plaintiff is entitled to any of the relief requested
in the complaint or any other relief thereafter.
So basically, they were saying that all of it is bullshit,
that the $500,000 at Cameron is seeking and damages
are, it's not true.
No promise was made.
They weren't even more specific
and basically like no promises were made.
All the things that are,
that they're alleging, didn't really happen.
So they also put out a statement,
his lawyer and was saying that,
that, um...
You're good.
I'm great.
I'm great.
I'm great.
I'm great.
Not too much.
That's too much.
You keep trying to clear your throat.
And it's not clear.
It's why we got the,
wait for the shit to start working.
It's like a print sample.
God.
G. J. Cool.
I was a real one.
Can't clear that.
Oh, shit.
These boys are witty.
Yeah.
You're all withy today.
Go ahead for you.
Now,
his lawyer put out a statement
that was saying that
there was no agreement
for anything.
Not a verse,
not a interview.
And it wasn't until
after the I'm ready,
which was 2024.
Three years,
two years,
something after the fact.
That then they started
requesting,
that was they,
Cam started
requesting all these things.
Mm.
So it was like,
and no.
We wasn't doing it.
Who do you believe?
Cam.
I believe Cam.
I believe Cam.
But to the attorney's point, fam, you don't got no sign nothing.
So if you can't, it ain't ever happened.
If you don't have paperwork stating that we are in agreement that we're going to do X for you, you're going to do Y for us.
Then by the terms of law, Cam lawsuit not going to make sense.
I believe that there was some understanding of a swap for a swap.
But I don't believe that there was any formal signed shit.
So legally it's going to be hard to do.
Even though verbal agreements can be legally bonded contracts, it's just going to be hard to prove.
I don't even know if it's verbal.
It's like in the music business swaps or comedy, the entertainment business in general.
So it's probably just understood.
Like, yeah, I'll come do this.
I might need something later.
Yeah, exactly.
That's that.
And knowing Cam, though, I don't know Cam.
But if Cam might have some of that shit on tape, the conversations, the phone conversation
on tape, like, yo, no, no, I'm going to come do your shit in October.
I'm going to come do your shit in February.
So that is a legally admissible thing.
Like, yo, he's saying that he's going to come do my shit as a payment.
I don't know.
Cam is asking for half a ticket?
Yeah.
Yeah.
For two features.
Yeah.
One he just talked on.
Intro and a verse.
And clearing.
And cleared them.
Does that number make sense?
I'm just saying the clearance changes things for me.
Like, I was always under the belief.
that Cam maybe said something to Jay Cole ingest,
and Jay Cole lied to him and said, I would do it
and just never thought that anything would come up.
But the person that actually did the work,
Cam is suing, saying, hey, you didn't keep up your end
of our verbal agreement, so you have to pay me.
And I don't really care if Jay Cole now is saying,
hey, you said it was for free.
Nah, this work is done.
It's two joints and a clearance.
And a clearance changes that for me.
And even with, even because that's a,
because before it was,
like you're not really matching value for value
with what Jay Cole is in the market
and what Cam is in the market.
A clearance changes that.
A little bit.
A little bit for me.
Why, though?
Because you went through the legal formalities
to give them the stuff?
No, I'm asking for clarity.
I don't know.
Because if they own the clearance,
they set the price for what that is worth
to who they clearing it for.
But why that can't apply to my featureverse?
If I own me giving you a feature,
I set the value to what is,
I give my price.
If you're coal or if you can.
If I'm Cam.
No, no, no.
He's saying the sample clearance.
But I said it with the sample clearance.
Because there's a marketplace value
on what everybody's verses worth.
You could say whatever you want.
Gotcha.
Yeah, so I...
That's not the same.
That's not the same with the sample.
That makes sense.
So, yes, I might say my half a million
and then we settle for this.
That might, you get what I'm saying?
But you don't get the place the value
of what my verses were.
I get it.
Listen, I get it.
And I get Cole asking for dismissal.
I get it.
So fellas, if Cole says, okay, I'll do it.
Does everything go away?
Is that how it works?
If Cole says, okay, I'll just come and we'll get this done.
Does the lawsuit?
Today, he might not want that today.
That's what I was curious about.
Might have went too far now.
Damn, that's so crazy.
Well, I don't know.
I wanted to ask you all before because remember when we talked about the album
and we discussed the song where he's talking about his friend
that was a homosexual that moves out of town.
But when he's describing him, he uses something.
derogatory terms, dick in the booty
stuff like that, right? That caused
like a bit of a black sweat, you know, people were
upset about that, of course, right? But what I
saw more than anything was
gays me. The transsexual
friend, the transsexual friend. Oh, the
firm was a transsexual friend? It was sort of implied
at the end of the verse when he said he's on in Atlanta now
wearing a wig, he saw him with a wig. That was the
idea that he was... And that's what
you all got from it? That's what I thought.
That's what I thought. That's what I thought.
That's what I thought. Yeah, by the intercourse.
Well, go ahead. Anywho.
So, no, but just in general,
I saw a lot of, because of course, gays always get that,
y'all always complain, you're always crying about stuff, right?
And I feel like with gay is the same thing with black people
where, like, how different races should enter that conversation we have with each other,
as far as telling each other what we're supposed to say.
I think it's the same thing with gay people.
I'm not gay, so I can't say whether they're crying or not.
But I kept seeing gay people to gay people saying,
this is why they don't like y'all.
I was like, you know what I mean?
Or saying this is why they don't like us.
They didn't like the J. Culver's.
I was seeing a lot of gay people.
that didn't like the fact that gay people were offended by the verse.
Oh, I see.
Almost like, look at the bigger picture, the growth in it.
The fact that he's looking at it like, damn, why did we do our man like that?
We should have called him.
It's regretting it.
And the thing about me is, I'm a very transparent person,
and I'm going to give you my faults or whatever.
But the best part is if you could take the lesson from that so we can all see it.
So in my mind, J. Cole does that to maybe make you think about the niggie.
You haven't spoke to in two years that you loved it, that you don't know what to say to
because now this nigga wear Jenkins.
That's dope.
You know what I mean?
He was extreme.
I'm wearing Jaggings, but...
You are, you're a Jaggings guy.
Not you're wearing, you wear.
You're like a spokesman for, Jack.
Right.
Yeah.
But you're also married.
Call me.
Yeah.
But like, I agree.
And I think a lot of times people be outraged by verses and they don't actually understand them.
I'm not telling people how to feel about a verse, but...
Because I got a similar response when I said I loved this song, because it was one of the songs that had me in a chokhole at the beginning, people were like, why would you like a song that has homophobic slurs?
Right.
And I'm like, y'all are missing the point of the verse.
He's flashing back in time and he's being self-critical.
And by the end of the verse, when he's about to drop the F word and stops himself and says, like, we don't do that no more.
To me, that was the mark of growth.
That's powerful.
Yeah, to me, that was the beautiful part from talking about dick and the booty-ass niggas at the beginning to say, no, we don't say that.
That's a lot of us.
And going past, we don't say that to, yo, we was bugging back there.
Yes.
Yes.
And we was bugging back.
Yeah.
Ignorant.
It was ignorant.
We didn't know about it.
Exactly.
And that's the thing.
I think that a lot of times
I dropped the F word
earlier in my career
but I talked to a fan
and he was like 20
and he was from down south
and he told me that when he hears the F word
is the same thing as when he hears the N word
he was a mixed kid white and black
down south and he was gay
he used to get chased home on the bus
for being black
and get chased home on the bus for being gay
so for him
it hurts the same right
I feel like the same way
you can say that
is like if it was some country singer
and he's singing a song
about how I used to be racist
and the hook is like
back then we called them nigg
but now we call them friends, we're gonna be mad.
Well, if you make that your hook, then yeah, we will be mad.
But if it's in your third verse, then you're like,
I used to call him niggers, but boy, what's that wrong?
I'm like, all right, he grew.
He just, all right, he's bogged out back then.
That ain't what's going to happen.
That's not what's going to happen.
In reality, so I feel like, I don't know.
It's still a good thing because it causes conversation,
and conversation makes people think.
Like, we're in a time where it's so much misinformation,
people really are like teaching themselves
the wrong shit getting deeper and deeper of caves
of bullshit so I'm all for
having a real conversation that helps us I think in the
black community that holds us back that is
a harder place to come out the DL thing
wouldn't be such a huge thing if it was a more
warm and open place to come out
Jake hold doing that to me makes it easier
somebody's deathbed to do it exactly
him telling that story makes it easier for all that
and it highlights another problem where
we don't like to allow people to grow
it's really that like even in the cold verse
like you saying the fact that he said them
slurs, they just held it right there.
Yeah, they didn't even see the growth.
Like, the second we catch you on it,
this side said all right here.
Those points that you're all of making.
This side of the room said all of those points.
He tries to divide us a lot of others.
He has to stay together.
And the thing about it is,
Divided States of America.
The thing about it is, guys, I need you to know.
Back in the day when the evil rich tyrant was going too hard,
you pulled them out the castle into the town square.
And you decapitated this thing.
Like, first he was,
First he would divide us and we would be fighting over potatoes and shit.
But then everybody's starving and you lost three of your kids.
You get to thinking the king's robe is covered in diamonds.
Let's get this, nigga.
And I can't get a loaf of bread.
I love that y'all.
You pulled a tyrant out to the town square and you cut his head off.
And you put on the spike.
Joe Caesar.
And you put it on a spike and you, ah, all night.
And then the next day you wake up and realize we don't know how to run this shit.
We fucked.
It's the truth.
Text me before you're coming.
Load them things up.
Shout to Jay Cole.
Have fun driving.
Yeah.
That Civic looked like shit, though.
That part is a little extra.
No, it ain't.
That part of the extra.
You could have got a better
You could have got a better Civic thing.
He said you got some new speakers.
Yeah, yeah.
They're working on it.
He might got some 15s in that big.
You got the solo barrack in the back.
You know what I mean?
And Jay Cole is like six four, six five.
He's big for the Civic.
He did look funny in the Civic.
That's what I'm saying, yo.
He looked funny back then and that more fun of the team.
I drive with your knees and shit.
I came from here.
It's nostalgic.
I think it's fire.
I think it's fire too.
I think it's fire.
I'm also 6-1.
So, I mean...
I knew he was...
You got the Balletis.
You got your Adidas on.
You got your Adidas.
You think I'm wearing the shoes to make you be tall?
What?
You think I'm wearing the shoes to be 6-3?
It's all right, my brother.
The height in his room.
Hey, yo.
You got two fingers.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Whoa.
You didn't say on his deathbed.
You can get the two figures.
He's spicy in here, man.
You know, I'm telling me.
You know.
He's spicy.
But just, but look at me.
He's going to look at me.
Honestly.
Leave me alone, y'all.
Leave me alone, John.
Maybe we'll be buttoeyes.
Honestly.
In another lifetime, me and this nigga take over fucking,
where you from?
I'm from Irvington.
He's hand on.
Man, east on me and this thing
would have took off East Horrid in the 80s, boy.
I ain't go.
Back to back.
Boo, boom, boom.
But look at me.
But with the ease.
This nigga, I say stop tapping him.
Look at me.
Look at me.
Honestly, with the, yeah.
You know what's that fucking,
I was both to disconnect all this shit
and making so my girl wouldn't see my eye cloud
and whatever the fuck,
Tim, man, whatever ICE did, my girl dropped him.
My girl went in there, I was like, oh, ice.
Please.
Put some hot water ice.
My girl was like, do, do, do, do, do.
All right.
We back, we back.
Stupid-ass ice.
Ice used to be nice, man.
That's hilarious.
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All right, it is NBA All-Star Week, and I'm dressed all in this NBA shit
because I'm trying to be, you know, in tune with what's happening out there.
Okay.
Just one with the neutral NBA.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's it.
That's made by NBA?
This, no, this is Jerry Lorenzo.
You should have put the jacket on.
He dressed like a tourist.
And this is the Belinci NBA fucking.
Belancy Shibinsky.
You got a lot of patches on your shirt.
That's the Kith, all-star.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
All-Star jacket.
I said something.
Oh, this Balinese should be cool.
I had the Balenci jacket, but that was a lot, man.
It wasn't like a mannequin.
The hat on the hat?
You do these, Balinsey.
Oh, the hat?
That's my man that make these hats.
It's my man to make these hats.
Shout to him.
Every day you count his network,
get madder.
That's why he don't go out with me no more.
Because what?
Because I'm rich.
Oh, shit.
Oh, it's time of that part of the show.
Look, Mark, sat up.
It's time of Joe shit.
That's why he won't go out on me no more.
What's his name?
I don't understand.
I don't know.
Is it true?
Have you went out with him since he been rich?
Yeah.
No, no, you haven't.
Wait, all right.
Wow.
Like, just y'all told us?
How many years you've been rich?
That's the question.
I haven't gone out with you in 10 years.
No.
And now when we do this, it seems like I'm begging again.
Look, shut your dumb ass up.
I haven't gone out with you in 10 years?
No, not planned.
So this ain't old money.
We bumped into each other in the spot.
You just be talking.
Wait, somebody else.
Who put you on the casa?
I can't say, because I'm getting trouble.
You said up here.
put you on the Casa before.
Was it you?
Because it wasn't.
You've said
up here that I put you on to Casa.
What does that have to do with planning?
What does that have to do with planning
to go somewhere?
Because the first time you and I went to
Casa, nigga, I told you I got a new spot
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I'll let me get a table.
You told the story up here.
I don't recall it like that.
I bet you don't.
That is literally.
The story that he told him.
I know that happened because I called him
the day before.
Ice, you can't vouch for him.
I'm not vouching for him.
I'm not vouching for him.
I'm not vouching for him.
I don't tell him.
I don't take your vouch for Antoine.
Y'all got some weird.
Y'all took the friendship somewhere else
since I've disconnected with y'all.
No, just the truth.
No, honestly.
We took it to a truthful face.
Since I stopped hanging with y'all,
y'all have taken it somewhere else in your togetherness.
Wait, hold on, time out.
But anyway, did you stop hanging with this or did he stop hanging with you?
Because you just said he won't go out what you know.
Well, I was only talking about me and him.
But if we're talking about all of us together, I've disconnected from you.
Ice is not melted today, baby.
He's on it.
No, the ice is solid today.
Yeah, ice is solid today.
Ice ice ice ice.
That's that fucking good ice right.
That's freezing burn.
That's the ice.
That's the 90.
The hospital ice.
That's the 90.
That's a good shot.
Am I done doing price fix?
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Yo.
Shannon got a little swagging.
Yeah, I'm talking shit, but I'm a big fan.
Well, I'm a little market ice.
Cook.
That's cool.
Keep rocking.
It's cool.
I'm talking shit, but I'm a big
fan of how Shannon handles this business.
I'm a big fan of the producers over there,
how they clip shit up.
I'm a fan of it.
They're well-oed a machine over there, seriously.
Honestly, honestly. I like to see
that in the black media space.
Where do they film normally down south?
They film wherever they feel like it, honestly.
Okay, because I know a lot of people were like
talking about the background from y'all.
Well, we was in say less.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is the only time I'm ever going to say,
I'm done with say less since they shot that nigga from the Jets.
They'll shoot him, they'll shoot me.
And if you want to know somebody way more shootable than him,
me, me.
And they shot the home boy at the big game,
the weekend of the big game.
I'm not going to say that other name that they say is involved in that,
but after argument with a rapper,
a nigga shot him right in the ankle.
Yeah, got him.
Called that a leg warmer.
Yeah, I'm about to say,
I'm grateful for that even if you just shoot me in my ankle.
Yeah, give me a leg.
I can handle that. Let me tell the story.
Or don't shoot me.
That's an option.
No shots.
I think no shots.
And, nigga, you shoot a nigga in the ankle.
It's mad bones down there.
That shit.
A true leg woman where you can.
Yeah, but you could die.
And I'm an athlete?
Don't shoot me.
Don't shoot me in the calf.
Must me.
Shoot me in the muscle.
Don't shoot me.
Yeah.
What did you get shot?
What body part?
My arm in my waist.
Okay.
That story was crazy.
You guys shine you're growing?
I'm not going to say nothing.
I'm not going to say nothing.
In another.
In another lifetime.
If y'all keep it up, I'm going to cue it up.
In another lifetime, moan, I'm telling you, shopping bag.
In any type of bag.
Plastic, paper bag.
One of the old.
A jazz for easy money, too, I'm telling you.
Oh, this nigga.
Wait a minute.
Who fuck is the easy money?
Wait a minute.
Who the easy money?
Me or him.
Him.
Okay.
Him.
Oh my God.
Anyway, all-star weekend.
Anyway, All-Star Weekend.
Yeah, yeah.
Nick Wright had some thoughts on what would fix All-Star Weekend.
You know, this weekend they're doing a different format.
They're doing the international players.
The OGs, the YGs.
If I'm taking Kevin Durant's word for it.
But Nick Wright suggested that you just make all this shit black versus white.
Oh shit.
He literally said that.
Wow.
I like Nick Wright, so I'm not going to kill him.
I love Nick Wright.
And it confirms what I think about what some white people think when they all alone,
like of what would fix everything.
Segregation.
I'm surprised Nick Wright.
Yeah, I'm surprised Nick Wright is all right.
Especially since he got his little hair transplant shit, like I'm not mad at him.
But for him to boldly said, he must know we fuck with him.
And he loved black people.
He's married to a black woman.
I'm just saying, Nick is good people.
He might be on the black side.
That's what I think.
I think he said that so you can watch the destruction.
That's what I was thinking.
The destruction.
I think, oh, yes.
We're going to kick ass.
The blacks are going to win.
I'm talking about a long shot.
We're talking about basketball, right?
Yes.
It's my basketball.
We ain't talking about no hockey.
Not the economy.
No hockey.
Are you not going to say that?
Yes.
Parties on my side.
Wait.
I think the whites are getting destroyed in basketball.
Yeah.
In basketball.
Yeah.
And you had to make sure of you.
Only basketball.
He said, just basketball.
Just basketball.
We all talking sports, right?
You all good at that.
Specifically basketball?
Parks is like, you want to know the truth?
That's hilarious, you know.
That's funny, bro.
Isn't it, what is that, the bow and arrow thing?
Isn't it like a thing?
Archery.
Yeah, archery.
That's what I'm saying.
Maybe that y'all would win it.
They would win it.
Archery.
That's how they won.
They've been shooting my fuck for a long time.
That's how they won.
Archie.
Yeah.
We ain't know what that was, ignorant.
Then the Gatlin gun came out
And it was horrible
Bye bye
Night night bye
Bye
There was a rap from that
Yeah it was nothing King
McPherson could do
But do we all agree
That the blacks will win
Yes
In basketball yes
I think the blacks will win
I also agree with what he's saying
Just because that will make
I think that would make both sides
play their best game
Why do you all think that would make
White people
Why do you all think that would make the whites
play their best game
Because I think they were want to win
Why?
You got something to prove y'all
Yeah
Why?
I don't know
You don't think so.
Because they sick of our shit.
Got these whites.
There's some whites who would get excited
to defend white people.
We lost the little hoop game.
We want everything else.
Losing sleep over this one.
And I think the other side of y'all going to make sure
y'all don't lose to them.
So you're going to play y'all ass off.
Who are they going to have Gordon Hayward?
Who they got on their side?
The white front five wouldn't be bad.
I just think the white star in five is amazing.
The black bitch.
Wait, I'm talking about natural whites.
Don't start adding their.
exotic whites like Joe White.
The whites?
They're the whites, they're one from the other country.
No.
What's they going to be on a black?
White's? They're spicy whites.
No, no spicy whites.
Hold on.
No, they're not going to be on no side.
This is natural whites
versus American blacks.
You know what is spicy.
If you're from a caucuses mountains, you do natural white.
I was just about to say you talk about the actual
caucusoid.
No.
You all you know about spicy whites.
Spicy whites, they appear white, but they
have a thick accent or
speaking other language.
They're a little more culture.
They're not like our rights.
They're spicy whites.
They're different.
Who said they're a little more culture?
They are a little more culture in my opinion.
Parks, you speak Spanish?
America, uh, poikito.
Um, poikito, papito.
Weepa, nigga, what'so?
My girl saying some shit, I was, I caught half of it, which I don't be listening.
But she was like, uh, yeah, I told me the bad money to say, yeah, and we ain't even got
no language.
Don't you know most of America speaks Asian and Spanish?
And I was like, is that true?
A lot of Spanish speakers in this country.
That can't be true.
That's a lot of Spanish speaking.
It's a lot of Spanish-speaking people who speak as a first language in their house.
Then when you add to people who learned it in school and shit like that, you might be close to 7,500 million people.
Yeah, my son.
I'm not getting him on Monday.
Now that I just thought about it, I'm not picking him over.
And I mean, no schools or no you're going to be hungry?
My son is on the roadblocks while I'm in another room doing me talking about some.
I'm parenting.
Son?
Say he'd get mad, he's losing.
They'd be killing him in the row.
He ain't good.
He's not good at it.
It's not that kind of thing.
As a dad, it hurts.
They got them in there, though.
Yeah, they do have them in there.
No, they got them.
So he might be playing that.
So he's in there playing the games and he's losing.
He's like, son of a poochito.
Son of a poochito!
So I say, hey, man.
I say, hey, what you're saying?
He said, nothing, man.
I'm like, all right, that cool.
I left for a low.
And then I noticed every time he lost, he kept saying,
Son of a bojito!
Son of a bitch!
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, enough.
Enough now.
Wrong shit.
Because I don't know what you're saying.
But I know it ain't right.
It ain't supposed to say that.
Don't say that around me if your mother let you say that on son of a boitito.
What is that?
I don't know.
Portito's just a chickie, like a little chickie.
Son of a chicken?
No.
Joe fucking got a word.
Joe saying so he said the word wrong.
We say son of a bitch.
So is it a son of a putta?
Is that what he said?
A eight-year-old shouldn't say son of a nothing.
That is true to agree.
After you had a grueling game?
If he's giving a h'hote a puta, you got a problem.
That might be what he's saying, and Joe just fucking it up.
If he's a little bit of puttee, you got a problem.
My son plays a pojitos.
Like, poachitos are fine.
Do you all really care if your kids curse?
Yes.
Yes.
In what form?
Yes.
Wait a minute.
Listen, listen, here to pitch.
Wait, which son?
Which words can't they use?
Listen, this is what I'm asking y'all.
Okay, let's say.
10 in his room playing a game
y'all know how rough it gets on PlayStation
you hear him you bitch ass nigga
suck my dick because he said whatever
said to him. Oh that's a lot
Now that's the thing so
you hear him on the he's with his friends and shit
they talk and they outside you hear on the ring camera
something something oh she's a bitch
is that a problem? That's not funny so they can't curse at all
no no
I don't freak out about curses
you know my kids growing up like I'm not like
the language police but it's about like
respect and like decorum.
It's not like, I'm not like religious
about words. It's more just like, there's certain things you
shouldn't be saying at that age. You went that
far, Mark, they can't say what the heck.
Damn. Wow. Can they say, because I couldn't say it.
Like that? I couldn't say that. I'm not a fan of that.
But I hate that. I'm with you. I don't like that.
That's like that is such a different world.
Heck, you're too close to hell.
It's too. Yeah, you're talking over a moment.
It's your birthday. I apologize.
Can I fucking get worded on the day I was born?
It's a little bit of the day.
Whoa, shut up.
How much, though?
Hey.
Motherfump.
Hey, Biggie!
No, no.
I got court cursing on a bus trip or something.
I was young.
I was like, hey, and my mother was like, you know, I got in trouble.
And I remember being really afraid.
And her whole thing was like, don't let adults hear you cursing.
It wasn't like a you can't curse.
Like she was, you know, more, my mother's always been kind of more realistic, right?
My thing with me and Joe, I think we were saying we hate is when you say,
they can't say what the heck because I can't say what I'm just saying I've adopted that though
certain it's respecting like what the heck sounds too close like what the hell what the fuck and
no y'all not saying that either y'all how y'all talk amongst yourselves is fine but don't let me hear
yeah don't let none of us hear y'all saying that especially in front of adults we couldn't even
say like like I don't curse in front of my mom like I was going to ask you all that next I was going to
ask you next but I feel like when remember the things that our parents said that made no fucking sense
it was kind of like this weird respect.
I'm black, respect me, shit.
And it didn't really make any sense.
For example, I could never say anything
where an adult was being dishonest.
So if I said, oh, well, that didn't happen.
Uncle Bobby said, oh, no, he didn't.
You calling me a liar.
It was like a big thing.
I remember that every day?
You cannot call an adult a liar.
Yeah, you can't say, you can't call an adult a liar.
We can't say the word lie.
We said, we had to say telling the story.
Exactly.
You had to say telling the story.
Now, that, for example.
We couldn't say she either.
That's told, you could not.
That's some Philly shit.
That's some Philly shit.
Couldn't say what?
She.
We couldn't describe.
If I told my dad like, yo, she said I couldn't go outside.
She said, don't call me she.
Right.
My mom wouldn't go to fuck off.
My grandmother would say, she is a cat.
She is a dog.
I am your grandmother.
Like I had to refer to her as a name.
I think that was Philly shit.
What I'm trying to spit out is that when they told us stupid shit that didn't make sense.
Like right now the kids have no idea about we couldn't say liar back then.
They have no idea about that.
You know what I mean?
Because a lot of that.
Your kids can't say liar.
Telling a story.
It's 1960.
That's a motherfucker.
That the kid at the school telling the teacher
You told the story
He'd be singing Sam Cook right now
What I'm trying to spit out is like
That shit from back in the day
It didn't make any sense
I definitely am not saying that
What the heck for you
But a lot of that when I see parents do that
It's only for like repetition
Almost similar like I got beat with a switch
That's why I beat them with a switch
Even though that's played the fuck out
You know what I mean?
A lot of the things we adapted
For example beating kids with weapons
That shit comes from slavery
So when we learned a little more
We stopped doing shit
On top of the fact
that beating kids of weapons
is exactly what it is.
You go get the switch. That's a fucking weapon.
Beating with an extricor, beating with a phone cord.
Y'all got your asses whipped. I never even got a beating.
You never got a beating? Not one.
In your life? On God, I've never got a beating. My mom punched me on the top
of my head. She just thing like that and I got taller.
A beating like you pull your pants down, beat you on the back or
smacked on my butt on my legs, I never got that.
You didn't got a spanking. And that's why you've been to the fed.
So what the fuck do y'all call the beat?
A few times.
You see that, right?
You see it, though.
You see it?
You see it?
You see it?
You don't think physical is played out to physically?
I don't play.
We don't do physical.
Yeah, like, beating the personality out to your kids.
That's what I call it.
Sometimes your kid has a little spunk.
People go out their way to beat that spunk out of them.
How do you shape them for the world?
You know what I mean?
You see a 12-year-old this nigger flinch a little bit.
It's like it's not a good thing to do to a kid.
No, we don't, I'm not with none of that.
You gotta find other ways.
I get front.
I was on phone with you yesterday, my son.
I was like, I'm gonna just let you go, man.
You're going through it over there.
Because my son, he was spazzy about getting out the car,
and it's just regular toddler shit.
Right.
But, like, it tests your patience and beating them sometimes is the easy way.
Yeah, beating them is a sign of you just can't.
You can't handle them.
You can't do that and not say, like you.
On my birthday.
Mona, why are you rad on us, too?
I was watching your show.
What?
Oh, about the likes?
Yes.
You know how I know?
Why are you rad on us?
What you did?
Hold on.
Tell them what you did.
Your dumb ass was floating in the likes.
That's how I knew you was going to say this.
Tell them.
I cracked the joke here and on stage a couple times,
catch me in Philadelphia on Saturday.
About how y'all be floating in them lights.
So when I was talking about-
Y'all, not writing on us.
Exactly.
The only,
but really,
Majority.
That wasn't the joke.
Majorily.
The joke.
The person that I see floating in the likes the most.
Mo what?
It would be, you know what I mean?
Like, I see a lot of people a lot floating in the likes.
You know what I mean?
Majorally?
It's a birthday.
It's a birthday, dog.
Majorly, I made it up.
What's up?
We know.
Oh, you were talking about me to most?
I didn't like that.
I don't do it anymore because I'm changing my words.
I also do a podcast where I see some of them niggas floating in the likes.
I did say that.
What do that mean?
No, but she was saying in the likes of women that don't hold the candle to the person that you whip.
Oh, that part.
What's you supposed to like?
Exactly.
Just like when we said.
And people said they jerk off to their girlfriends.
We all do.
We all do that.
We all do that.
Oh, no, that's a fact.
That's a big fact.
That is a fact.
Big fact.
And you also jerk off the other people.
No, I jerked off.
She said Ann Wals.
She said Ann Wives, though.
I said Ann Wives from the door.
Oh, okay.
No, is it.
I jerk off to my girl only and that short little Dominican girl that go with the Spanish
nigger that do the hard.
horrible camera angles when he holding the phone.
The hurt just walking around naked.
How did we get here?
It's only two.
And she gained a little bit of weight.
My girl told me, hating.
Yeah, it's just dumb too.
That might make you like her more or shit.
You're right man.
The big demona.
The big demona, but I don't say that to my baby.
You said that I be two something to do something.
Tucson to do some.
That's a fact.
Yeah.
My girl trying to get to that 180 so bad.
Two something to do something.
Two something to do something.
A lot of that weight in the ass and the titty.
You know what Joe likes?
Shit, he'd be...
I see my boy.
Every time I catch all, I cook it opens.
What's his motto?
I don't have that motto.
What's his motto?
I don't have a motto.
It's still too something to do something.
It's just...
Feet.
Oh shit.
You...
You got way 80 to lay me.
Yeah.
You want 80?
No, 80 pounds.
80 pounds.
80 pounds.
You over one son's...
80 pounds.
E done and done.
You know what I'm tiny.
80 pounds.
The smaller girls take a lot of dick,
oh, I take it back then.
They do.
The small girls take the big girls can't take a good dick in deep than smaller girls.
They can take a good dick in deep than smaller girls.
I never understood that about men, right?
Like, what you just said was the saying growing up.
So if the big girls can't take a dick.
Right.
And the thin girls can.
Yes.
Then that's two different experiences, right?
So if I fuck with the thin girl that can take a dick,
Like, she's just up there on some GoPro.
She ain't even, but the big girl's come.
Like, that's the reaction I want.
When I insert, I want the long, I want all that.
If the thin girl is just up there like, oh, Daddy, it's time.
No, bitch, I'm sorry.
Get off me.
I always thought about it, like, with my male friends, like, that's not fun.
Like, if you're well-indowed or whatever,
and this bitch is hoop and hollering, you can't do your thing.
At a certain extent, it's not enjoyable for the guy.
Like which side you fall on you think?
What me?
What, me?
I've been a big bitch my whole life.
I can't take no dick.
I'm honest about it.
Watch you for the big girl.
But it's the thing about me too.
Just to tell you all a little bit of my business,
this is my birthday.
I prefer smaller dicks and I'm still doing all the theatrics.
Gasp all that.
Grab me by your pelvic pushing it.
Oh my God, I can't take it.
I can't even feel it.
Okay.
Yeah, I need a bitch with some theatrics.
I'm doing that.
I'm totally faking.
Bro, one time I faked this so much,
I remember my nigga was like, it's not even in.
Like, come on, shut up.
Honestly.
Like, honestly, it's my thumb, bitch.
Like, why he-
Yeah, that's exactly how I did it was so hot.
Hold up, though.
That might get that.
That might get that.
They talk about his thumbs.
I didn't know that.
I always wanted to talk about his thumbs.
I didn't know that was like,
I thought it was off limits.
And sometimes when I look at him,
he tucked them bitches in.
So I just assumed that that was off limits.
Oh, my God, his thumbs are so peculiar.
I find myself staring at him alive.
Oh my god, because I look up to this niggins, like, you gotta find something to hate on my body.
When I leave, I'm like this bitch-ass niggas dumb-thumb.
It's only one.
His thing is one.
No, it's one.
That one thumb so fucked up, I think it's thumb.
Yeah, his thumb fucked up.
He said threesome.
Yeah, he could do like a thumb walk.
You know what I mean?
Thumb foundation, he could be with the niggas.
What happened to the nigga thumb?
He got smashing the door.
He asked him.
Pull out couch.
Okay.
Back in the day?
But you was close.
How old were you?
Four.
Dang's a baby.
Many, many, many, many years ago.
Yeah, I had to be fucking three or four because I wasn't taller than the couch.
I was next to the couch.
My dad was putting the bed back into the couch.
I screamed out.
Daddy.
He didn't see me.
And I put my thumb up to try to climb up.
And he folded it in and my thumb fell off.
And that was the summer that my mom had sent me down south to me with my dad.
That caught.
Oh.
This thing is sank that boy home without the time.
That's my way to get rid of a kid.
Joey the thumb got detached?
Yeah.
And they had to put it back on.
They put it back.
This little line right here.
This little line right here is them sewing half my thumb back on.
I still have all the feeling, all sensation, but it looks like this.
So when you tell this story, I'm assuming it's because they told you that story, but just as a mom, the real story was, I told you to stop touching that fucking college.
Now I'm going to let your black ass climb on there to teach you a lesson.
I just didn't know it was going to snap your thumb on.
No, my mom wouldn't hear.
Right, I know.
Dad's don't be shit.
Dad's in the 80s, like, when crack dropped.
I thank God every day that my thumb is the only thing I know.
I'm like, oh, thank God.
Could it went worse than that.
Joe, did your dad put in his pocket and you went to the hospital with it?
We went to the hospital with it, yeah.
Wow.
What is the story?
He picked it up, took to the hospital, and thank God.
Yeah, thank God.
Imagine Joe without no time.
Y'all think I'd be sticking my thumb in bitch's pussy?
Yes.
Asshole, I was on.
Bowling ball.
I don't do that.
You know the bowling ball.
This is a family show.
Pope know the ballerball.
That's a motorcycle.
I said volleyball a week like that.
What's that?
What's that?
What's that?
Do you do.
Dun-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
It's going to.
What?
You're disgusting.
I don't know what that is.
We're going to grow up next spot.
I promise.
Tell me.
Next year.
What else is it important?
Want to do music?
Oh.
Oh, go ahead.
Just real quick announcement.
Chris Paul just announced his retirement like a few minutes ago.
Didn't he heard of the time?
Yeah, we knew that.
We don't get more.
No, he just announced it five minutes ago.
Congrats again.
Congrats again.
Didn't we come in here?
I thought we did this already.
I swear we came in here at the beginning of the season and said,
shouting him out for his retirement.
No, he just got cut.
Just got cut.
And he's got traded to the Rip Raptors last week.
Toronto.
Is that where he is?
He in Toronto.
I had no idea.
They trained him for him last week and then just cut him again.
So now he's that.
Yeah, we gave you.
Congratulations.
I felt like I did this before.
We did it.
I thought we did.
Because the announcers was going to be his last season.
And then they cut it short and we was like it was fucked up what happened when they told him, you know.
That's fun enough.
It's black history.
We can't do that to Chris Paul.
Exactly.
He's a question.
No, no.
He can't.
He can't.
He can't do.
He can't.
He can't hate Chris.
He's not.
Chris Paul.
Congratulations.
Thank you for your service.
One of the best pure point guards of all times.
That's true.
Like, what can we do?
You bet I got that out the way before LeBron
woke up and decided to, you know what I mean?
He got busy yesterday.
Triple double, oldest triple double in NBA history.
He'll be the oldest everything.
Yeah.
What are we doing for Black History Month of this podcast?
We should be discussing a Black Legend leader
every podcast and a Black loser to make it fair.
This is, by the way, the 100th anniversary.
Black loser, we already got Scarface Burrilla.
Now we needed a black winner.
We're Black winners.
I guess.
Happy Black History Month.
Yes.
100th anniversary of Black History Month.
It's the 100 anniversary?
We need a longer month.
Yeah.
That's a legendary cool.
Who said it?
Y'all don't know?
She's from Jersey.
Whitney Houston?
Wake up.
Rest of peace, Whitney Houston.
She died this month, too, if I'm not mistaken.
She passed in February.
Yeah, February 11th.
Around my birthday year.
That's such a sad thing, man.
The best.
Like, who would have thought?
She passed away.
Her daughter passed the same way.
Right after that's the...
Like, what is that?
You know what is that?
You know what I mean?
Some stuff is too.
Quinky dinky it makes you think some other shit.
You don't want to talk about new music?
Yes. Yeah, we can do that.
Well, first of our, girl Jill Scott, just dropped the new album.
She sure did.
It's nice, too.
It's fire.
I love...
To whom this may concern.
Yes.
To whom this may concern.
Very eclectic.
A lot of different vibes on here.
I love the album cover, by it.
We start with that.
The album art, I thought it was actually amazing.
Yeah, she was fun.
I look like the cover for In This Thing Together.
That's why
That's why
Which you can get on Patreon
Check it out
Shut up
The Jill Scott Joint
The Jid record is my favorite
record
One there
Love that record
I love that record
I love the Tierra Rack record
Oh that record is crazy
That record is crazy too
Jill rapping
Let's go Jill
I'm about to say
This album is like a jazz
slash spoken word
slash this album is a lot of things
None of them
I think is really R&B
There's a blues record
on there.
Jill really wanted to
rap.
I opened up for Jill.
I met Jill
like in real life
probably 2023.
Okay.
And she was working
on a song then
that she wanted
Sierra on.
She was even thinking
about having me
feature because I had
did that
cypher thing, but I'm
not a rapper.
She was talking about
Uzi, but I got out of her
then that she wanted to rap.
Like she just had like
a feeling for it.
So I'm not surprised
that it's different than
I yeah, I'm proud of her
that she made it happen.
And she rap well.
Yeah.
She's real time.
I don't think it's nothing
she can't do.
Also, seeing her live.
I never
I knew her live show was dead like good like that.
Oh yeah, she goes crazy.
Oh my god, yeah.
She goes crazy.
We go see her.
We're gonna go see tomorrow night.
Oh, shit.
Well, some of us, hopefully.
Hopefully.
Yeah, work.
Yeah, work.
This record is called to be honest.
Jill Scott, J.I.D.
I definitely need to hear Jid on this.
Let me speed up.
Speed up, we speed up.
Speed up.
I'm in Burs things in the summer
through the mumble hours and east.
Shout with imposter just back for the end to the room.
May I please shed this space and energy.
Time don't waste, no memory.
No wine, don't chase, no symmetry.
Like science, I feel chemistry.
So I'm praying.
Shout to J.I.D., man.
That record is hard.
Shout to Jail.
She's supposed to pay us a visit soon.
Can't wait.
But real good album, man.
Shout to Jill, front of the show.
We love her.
Congratulations.
And hopefully you can give me a table at the Blue Note tomorrow.
God will.
Jill's this shit.
She's the best.
Love you, Jill.
Love you, Jill.
We talk in Philly real quick.
Fine wine and steak just came out a new single from young Chris.
He killed it as always.
Shout out to him.
Okay.
Chris, another one, don't fall off.
Chris body his verse on.
There's a ransom, Nick Craven and Boldie James project that came out that
Chris got a verse on.
He bought it as well.
Always get busy to me.
He does.
He does.
He does.
He does.
He does.
He does.
He gets to 16.
Straight through.
It never got corny.
I don't know.
You know?
New Victoria Monet.
This record is called Let Me.
from feeling
Let it pro decide for you
Still just like glass
I can see where you need some shining
But you're scared to break
If you let me call to you
I just wish you
Let me be alright or die
Let me love you back to light
Babe, let me give you peace of mind
This record somehow reminds me of a Mariah the scientist's record.
Okay.
Yeah, it does.
Let me love you through those moments out to all the things like...
I'm going to skip up to the end, wish you let the music vibe out.
Yeah, like a stripped down, airy vocals, two minutes of an alternate kind of version at the end.
And shout the Mariahs
scientists, man.
And Victoria Monet, this record's hard.
Alex Isley called Sweet Lullaby.
Make it the sweetest lullaby.
They go.
This is fire.
To let me down.
If you really have to
be this lullaby.
Alex Isley's album,
When the City Sleeps is coming.
I want to say,
Next month.
March 20th, I think.
Yeah, next month.
I can't wait.
Shout out to Alex Isley, friend in my contacts.
Absolutely love her.
This next record is Baby Rose.
Shout to Baby Rose, friend of the show featuring Leon Thomas, who's on an absolute tear.
Absolute tear.
This record is called Friends Again.
Leon Thomas killed this.
Yes.
There you go.
Phone in on DSPs right now.
Shout to Baby Rose, her entire team.
entire team. Appreciate you.
Last but certainly not least for me is a gentleman by the name of Isaiah Haran.
Okay.
I've played him up here before.
He's a new act.
Everything that I've heard has been nothing but heat.
He's a big fan of this podcast and mood music.
That is I-S-A-I-A-A-H-U-R-O-N.
You'd like to hear it.
This record is called W-T-A.
And it's crazy.
I think we want to lit or too fast
Because only when the bus can't do it
Because only when the bus is way too attached
I'm not all the one back
The record is called WTA
Way Too Attached
Applies to a lot of y'all niggas out there
So pick it up in an iTunes store
Right this very second shout to Isaiah Huron
Also Brent dropped
He did
I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet
So I don't have a review
And I'm still mad at y'all
for the way y'all spoke about me after my one listen j cole review so suck my dick no more no more one listen
reviews from me if y'all have heard it feel free have that i listened to it one time it sounded good
he sounded uh more in key to to your criticism of him in the past uh production's really good um
let me see if i got a stand yeah drop a jam on his uh his song songwriting is really good good man uh all right
and the album is called icon found chad hugo for this one
This is world is yours.
What?
You can believe in me, girl.
As world is yours, Brett Fias.
I like the album.
His voice does sound much better.
It sounds cleaner than it has in the past.
I don't know.
Boy, we can hear you.
They don't like it.
I don't get it from this couch.
What is it?
What is it?
Your energy, y'all my brother's, what is it?
I'm not the R&B guy, so I don't know.
I'm not an R&B person either.
Brent told him what on my head.
I discovered him literally in the last year.
I love him.
I think he's good.
Okay.
I think he's great.
Brent, I'm okay with.
His home boy, Tommy Richmond, I'm not.
I'm cool.
Fair.
Shout to him.
Fair.
Also, uh, oh, I'm done.
Also, um, in new music, all your nipsy hustle fans out there,
we will be getting a posthumous.
Nipsey Hustmousin this summer.
What?
Who now?
A postham.
I can hear you.
Nipsey Hustle album.
And vinyl right out.
The album is coming out this summer.
It's called reckless.
You can't say it, can you?
Excuse me.
That's not the album.
You said a possum?
That's not what I said.
That's the fucking that
The possumist.
I think he said the word
When you put it out
The optimist.
I don't know what he said.
It's a trick you one.
Posthumous.
He said it like how he said
And I got it.
Go ahead, brother.
He said, possum is.
Listen, I got it.
The possum is what?
You know what?
You know what?
You know what?
Why are we going to hear the noise?
The noise.
Correcting him is the noise.
I'm talking to my sister right here.
I love content creators.
We don't.
We don't like R&B.
Yeah, we don't like R&B.
It is what it is.
You don't like R&B?
I'm not a big R&B fan.
I do have appreciated.
Nip's not R&B.
You know what?
You know what I would,
real life came out.
It was like eight,
I had the album.
I knew all the songs.
I know every outfit.
But it's like first.
I'm just a rap girl first.
So R&B,
it's like, oh, come home.
I don't like that shit.
So who's dropping an album with Nip?
Fritz?
Bino Rito is dropping an album with Nip.
The first record,
it might be out today.
I was trying to find it on DSP.
Okay.
But first record is called, excuse me,
first record is called Restless.
They sent it to me and you.
Yeah, but I don't have it on DSP.
You ain't got the song.
They said, make sure Joe and Ice.
It said our name.
Did it say Ice and Joe?
Oh, I don't know.
It could have.
I mean, there's no ego with me when it comes to friendship.
When it comes to friendship, it's no ego with me.
But anyway.
Anyway.
Anyway, like I said, the song should be.
be out. It's called reckless.
He don't know because we got it.
No, they said the song is coming out.
I just don't know if at the time it's recording.
We got it.
You got it. You got it.
Can we hear it, fellas?
I don't have a court.
Let me see. Let me see if it's out.
See if I can find it here.
Word. I miss Nipsy too.
I miss Nipsey too. I don't. I just think about where he'd be career-wise today.
I don't believe it. Right now, crazy.
Oh, if it's not out, then we'll wait.
We'll play it when it's coming out.
Because me and Ice got it.
You don't got to keep telling it.
So does he, his fan base,
they come out like that for stuff like this
he's going to do well, like most likely?
I believe so.
I imagine so.
Yeah.
I imagine so.
I do.
And I feel like his people do a good job
of keeping his name around with black salmon now.
Absolutely.
Shout to Sam and out.
Shout to Black Sam, man.
I want to come over there and get a burger,
but I don't want to fight.
Stop, Joe.
Why?
Because they put that nigga out of him out.
Yeah, they got it.
That's a hell of a sandwich.
Why him out of it?
That's a hell of a promo.
I want to just get a burger.
I'm going to.
That's one of the stops, for sure.
Nobody's going to fight you.
Yep.
Ain't no points.
No, sure or not?
Fucking the, they were fighting people.
You had no way.
And it wasn't even a fight, y'all.
It wasn't a fight.
And I respect it for moving him.
Don't come here for the grand opening.
You don't do that.
You get a bum with some letters.
I can get a burger.
Double with cheese, man.
Nah, I'm about to say it better.
That'd be no double.
By the time it takes the,
flip that other one.
Hey on ice ass.
You better not with a curly fry.
I know that.
You better not get no cheese.
And I want a shake.
And a shake.
Oh, you're killing.
Now I'm going to be shaking a picture too.
Y'all I felt like so not a man
the other day ordering a burger
and fries without a shake because of my diet.
You got to get the shake, bro.
I'm on my diet.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You have room.
Speaking of diet, I said, did you see that,
did you see that riveting footage with my boy in the gym?
Ah.
And the thing about me is...
I work out.
I try to go to the gym, not doing well.
Sometimes I go there, take a picture, and leave.
But I went, you know?
So small steps.
But it's like one thing I envy is people that make them gym noises
and it sound like they really want some shit.
You know what I mean?
Because sometimes you can't even make noises.
But Jim Grum's when they write Joe Button has an impressive gym.
No, I'm a moan.
Oh, Mark.
I'm a moaner.
Yeah.
If the shit is hid.
They were talking shit about you, though.
Can I say it?
Oh, no, go ahead.
Okay, so they was like, why the fuck
would you put resistance bands on a machine
that already has resistant, dummy?
Because he had bands on the joint
that already has the settings.
Maybe add more resistance.
I asked the same thing to my trainer.
Oh, the fuck is you doing, man, it's fine.
Look, you know, we don't need to do this.
We don't need to do this.
Stipper guns of resistance.
Now, that is a fact that makes it harder, right?
It was definitely harder.
But I've seen all the messages,
criticizing my form and the band.
It's like this levels to, like, fitness, right?
Like, it ain't enough to get out of bed.
Talk yourself in the going.
That ain't enough.
Like the demons to get there?
Oh, no, that's bougie as fuck.
The fitness niggas pop in like, oh, look at you.
You're doing that wrong.
You're doing it all wrong.
You're not working out the vertical muscles that you need to.
Diggas, suck a dick.
Yeah, two dicks.
I'm here.
I got out of bed and I'm in this bullshit.
Period.
God, damn.
And everybody's a fucking gym expert.
I'd love to see some of these people
tell you your form is bad.
I mean, the form wasn't the best,
but the band's made sense,
but like, we out here.
So what?
The form was terrible.
They did the same shit to Mark Cuban.
They were criticizing,
he's 60 fucking seven curling weight in the gym,
and they're like.
But I'm confused with the form wasn't the best.
Dog, I'm in there with tendinitis in my elbow.
Nigger, no, my form ain't right.
I could be home, sleep.
Listen, what is, you said the form could be better?
What the fuck better could it be if you just pull?
He could have stood up straighter?
No, you're supposed to keep your chest to the thing of a jig
so that you only,
are working the arms.
I was moving back because the band
plus almost maxing the thing
out. It was heavy. The training was
extra. He'd be freestyling
while we end their slave and he'd be like, all
let me see what else we can do. So I'm
not mad at him. He's affordable.
Are you seeing results?
Yeah. I am.
What the fuck? I am.
I got wrong. You see? That's what I'm saying.
We got wrong for two more niggas on here. I think
your ice did you work out with Shady?
No, it wasn't.
He even telling stories.
I know you.
He does the top of the show so you don't hear it.
It's always shady.
At the top of the show.
He can't help it.
He from North Ph.
You look good.
This Geidi, this is Gidi.
Gigi topic is important to me.
I don't know if it's important to y'all.
I don't know the full details.
What happened to the story?
Gigi Gadi is a world famous battle rapper.
One of the better battle rappers.
He is.
Friends of the show.
He's been up here.
A friend of the show.
He's been up here.
He's been a battle rap.
champion as recently as a few years ago.
Limitless potential.
Most people recognize him as one of the best.
Yes.
So it was much to my surprise, a lot of people surprised,
when police in Westchester, Ohio, right?
Because not Westchester.
I'm from New York.
Westchester, yeah, two words.
Westchester, Ohio pulled over a car.
The car had a few people in it for, yeah.
Yeah, four people, the car, when the cop came up, peeled off, made it about one exit before everyone decided to get out and run.
Well, what it sounded like in the body cam footage said something like they hit a strip.
So I think they had this planned out because he said they hit a strip, which would explain why they, the car, why they bail.
Yeah, why they ended up having a bell.
Oh, okay, okay.
Well, still.
So still, so yeah, just so they ran, the police caught them.
Pretty instantly.
Yeah, right away.
Didn't shoot, didn't fire any shots, no taser.
So everyone is arrested.
And the battle rap community has just been absolutely on fire.
He, Gichi Gotti got caught with 816 oxy cotton pills.
150 tablets of 60 milligram morphine sulfates.
183 tablets of hydrocodone, viking,
702 tablets of
Perkinset.
Yo, he's in trouble, y'all.
And he was on probation, I want to say.
And even when, so back to the body cam footage,
when they caught one of the dudes,
he asked him, yo, why are you arresting me?
And he said, because your name is such and such
and you've been robbing pharmacies in the area.
So it's like, you can hear like they've been,
this is like a sting.
It's a sting basically.
Because they also said that one of the dudes
they've been watching him from the minute he landed in Cincinnati airport.
So they kind of let this play out to catch y'all.
So for now, the bulk of the pharmacies are all in Ohio.
They're not outside the state of Ohio?
I don't even know how many pharmacies, but what I'm assuming just from off body cam footage,
and what the cop was saying is it's Ohio.
Where's Gitchie from?
Compton, Ella.
Oh, yeah, they're in trouble, bro.
They ain't them niggies in trouble.
I think bail is set at 900,000.
Yeah, they ain't trouble.
That's federal.
That's going to be a favorite.
So the conversation piece has been about
battle rappers,
how much they make,
and what they do when they're away from battle rap.
Like, do you guys have any thoughts about this?
Of course.
Give me a little something for you.
Well, one, people, there was a spike in money in battle rap,
and that came right around a pandemic.
Caffeine.
Caffeine.
Caffeine.
and once
that bubble burst
the money was gone
like you hear battle rappers
said smack said it
like they know
that money's not here
so the numbers
that they used to get
I mean battle rappers
was getting 30 40 50 grand a battle
Jesus how much they get now
not that
Not that
Like single digits
Like three four five
Those might be getting
No no no
Those probably getting now
Dine
Maybe
anywhere from 3,500
to 15 grand
depending on who you are.
Yeah.
But you can see it.
You can see it in the battle rappers
taking much more battles now.
And now you start to see different leagues
that you might have never heard.
Now he's doing a battle here,
then here, didn't here, didn't here, didn't here,
because the money slowed up so much,
I got to replace it by working more.
All right.
Just one more quick.
How many battles a month for a year do they do, though?
It depends.
It depends.
It depends.
It depends.
At the time, my brother was doing battles.
You know, I got a battle this week,
and then as soon as this one is done,
I have to prepare because I got another battle three weeks from there.
I got another battle two weeks from now, something like that.
And then there's a then he might not battle again for four or five months.
Got it.
He was on the other side getting higher up.
I don't know what he's getting now.
So your take is ever since caffeine left,
the money has kind of left battle wrap.
So this behavior is acceptable.
No, I never said acceptable.
Don't do that.
Don't try to jam me up.
Can I jump in, guys?
Yes, please.
There never was.
there never was any money in battlewrap
so if anything it's this small little
sector where they was making real bread
I feel like
the thing
I mean
there was money in battle money
A lot of money
Yeah
A lot of his relative but yes
A lot of his relative being
For a lot of these niggas
What they started getting done after caffeine is a lot
Okay
I'm talking
For a lot of people
Okay
What I'm saying is
Is that being that battle rappers
are typically not music makers
as far as like making money
as far as on the music.
Niggas be great at the bad rap
they'll try to make an album
trying to make mistakes.
Right.
And I feel like
with all the energy
put into the performances
and the props and all that,
I just never thought that
it was even fair.
Like I feel like
when you go to a rap show
and niggas just stand there
and do these niggas give you a real show.
You know what I mean?
It never made sense
that there wasn't like a thing
where you could just live
eat off and retire off a batter rap like
I never made any estimate. Oh it's going to be that level of money
right but I don't know why
nobody has kind of corporated
you know made it corporate made it like this big business
where you can come in and make great money because
it's so many people that love battle rap you know what I mean
I think all about to venture into a new conversation
I want you to specifically speak about
Gigi Gotti the situation he's in
and what y'all think about that situation
what I think oh go ahead I'm sorry I was about to
ask ICE.
So let's just say
a battle rapper
at the height
during caffeine
is getting $40,000.
That's good, right?
That's pretty good
for three rounds of
battle.
No, no, that's amazing.
But then you only battling
like them niggas,
like we know the ones
that are them niggas,
the serfs, the Gitchis,
the, you know what I'm saying?
Let's say you do
two to three battles a year
at $40,000.
Right?
So now you have a buck 20
depending on where you live at,
that ain't necessarily the most money
to survive contingent upon what your lifestyle is.
And so now these guys sometimes got to do other shit.
Now, if you're not even at the surfing them level
and you're getting $20,000 a battle three times a year,
that's only $60,000.
Like, you put in the three times a year.
Did y'all hear what I said?
I know, Gigi Gandhi.
Listen, let me say something.
Can I say something?
I'm trying to spit it out fast.
But what the whole point of is that
these motherfuckers come from the hood,
you already know which battle rappers
really connected to the street, gang bangers or whatever.
That's what they come from.
I come in this, I'm good at this.
It's not really many much money to make or there's not many money to be made, right?
What the fuck am I going to do other than go back to doing what I do?
So it's like, is it a shock to this nigga rob a pharmacy?
Fuck no.
Because when you come to the battle, you can't come to the battle looking a fucking mess.
You can't come, you can't push the shit around.
I think that if these guys would do better, if they got assistance in the social media space or branded space,
because once you have that battle and you kill it and it's viral,
now you got to make the T-shirts, now you got to figure out the meeting greet.
You know what I mean?
It's more money.
That's just like Lux.
Lux has that legendary battle, right?
He sold the T-shirts.
What was the thing?
You know what I mean?
Get this work.
Let's get this work.
He pushed that shit.
Every battle rapper don't know to do that.
So it's like they're not even utilizing what they've done to get the most money out of just past.
Because it's not just a $40,000 battle.
You can make more money after that.
You can host parties.
You pop in for a while after you in that battle, correct?
But if you don't know how to do that, you're from the hood.
And all you do know how to do is rap.
Yeah, you're going to go back to doing whatever you know how to do.
Sidebar of pharmacy robin.
And it's very profitable, to be honest.
Okay, but why?
It's a bunch of money in robin pharmacies.
They made movies about it.
I was just about to say, like, our lifestyles in the hood be a little expensive.
They do.
And so, let me finish.
Joe, let me finish.
And so if you take Gichi Godi or if you take another street person and they don't know other
ways to make revenue, they're going to lead back to the streets.
The streets is always there.
It's unfortunate.
But that's what niggas go to is the streets.
ain't like you're going to go work a regular job
now you know, you notice a bull.
You know what I'm saying?
Like if he go get a nine to five job
niggies like, yo, Gigi Gotti doing stock work at Target
or some shit like that.
It's better than you get a job.
I'm not disagreeing.
Bro, he can't be a badder rapper after he works at Target.
He cannot.
So what do we be talking about?
He can't.
Why does he have to work at Target?
He doesn't have to work at Target,
but I'm coming from a place up a brother.
What do we talking about this nigga?
With the welder school?
This nigga, he went to the weather school.
He's been to college.
That's why he's bad a rapper.
He don't have no fucking.
I'm just saying realistic wise.
What else the fuck we think we're going to do?
My brother catches bus driver bars to this day.
And that shit was at least 20 something, maybe 20 years ago.
If that much.
But I'm just saying like you can't have, unfortunately,
perception is everything in battle rap.
That image, yeah.
So to a lot of them, niggas, I'm living my raps.
Are y'all retarded?
No.
Let me let somebody finish, though.
Y'all won't shut the fuck up the limit.
All right, yeah, let them tell us what we should think.
Y'all
like, go ahead.
Like, why don't we attempt to answer the question
instead of just leaving it open-ended,
hey, when you come from this
and this is all you know how to do,
what do we expect you to do?
I expect mad other things aside from getting in the car
with your three loser friends full of pills
and then running away from the police
while you're on probation.
I think a lot of the hip-hop conversations
don't address shit head on.
Like, got it.
We come from where we come from.
Got it.
We maybe don't want to go get a regular job.
Got it.
We are on probation.
That is not the answer.
Let's start with free him.
Secondly, everybody makes a mistake.
I'm giving him a benefit of doubt that this is indeed a mistake.
But this is one of the dumbest mistakes I've ever seen.
I ain't about to sit there in cap for this nigger.
This reminds me a surf 15 years ago.
Like this remind me a surf age.
years ago.
I feel like I almost look down on the rapper.
That does it more than the battle rapper.
I feel like being a rapper,
you have a way better chance
of making real money or figuring out battle rap.
I just don't look at it like.
See, but that's another thing.
But wait, hold up for a minute, Mark.
That's another thing you keep saying
that I am in complete disagreement with.
If you're making $10,000 a battle,
then go do 15 of them
and make a buck 50 a year.
And now you're not in this poor class
that you keep trying to make.
Go ahead.
There's the part you're missing, though.
You make it without the education.
of what to do with that money,
what are you going to do when you get that $150?
Real talk.
You're going to blow it.
You give a nigger that's never made no money before in his life.
Now you're giving him 10 grand a battle.
You do 15 battles, that's $150.
What do you think he's going to go do without education at that point?
The same thing the niggas who ain't in the streets do when you get them that money.
In my conversation.
The athlete, all of them.
But in my conversation.
There ain't no money once you pay taxes.
No, no, no, no.
That's the part I.
The public city ain't no money.
It's not a money.
In my conversation.
In my conversation.
we don't remain uneducated.
But we speak into someone that obviously,
if he was educated, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I don't know that.
For him, this might have been an educated decision.
I don't know him well enough to be able to say.
All I could do is take the facts that came and say,
yo, brother, what are we on right now?
What are we on right now?
You don't know him, but that's his circumstance
to have anything to do with where he's from how he grows up.
The fact that he's from an urban area,
single mom, does any of that count?
Because that's the thing with you.
It's like, to me, you speak from a place.
of almost like where you think you have an above average brain whether you went to college or not
you're a smart guy right no we was all there we was all from the same impoverished neighborhood
breaking the law regardless if you all from the same impoverished neighborhood breaking the law right
you was a nigga had no business doing it because you had that brain in your head some of them
niggas you hustle with were fucking slow no i had no business doing it because i wrapped what are we
talking about i had no business doing it because i wrapped and i was great and i quickly
well yeah i'm not saying that he ain't smart so i don't know that smart it's plenty of smart
I'm not saying that.
Listen, when I say the smart thing,
this is why I say it.
If you come from the ghetto,
what do we know?
We know that those schools are bullshit.
That's a fact.
If you come from the ghetto,
what do we know that you're in proverish?
That's the fact.
So with those things,
to make it out of that situation,
you have to be an above average thinker.
You have to be a little smarter than the rest.
So when people like you talk,
somebody that I think is intelligent,
meaning without college,
without rap,
without whatever,
you think different.
This is how your brain works.
You can't put yourself in the places
because you in the ghetto
already had a leg up
because of the brain you got through genetics.
That's my opinion.
Real quick.
True neither.
I think if you're an average guy, it's harder for you to make it.
That's my personal opinion.
Mona, a lot of that shit got to do a luck.
If Joe would have got caught doing some of the shit that Joe might have been doing,
he might have got sent up and your life changes based on some of those things.
Now, you pump it up might have never got heard.
So if you don't get them.
Made.
That's what I'm saying.
So if you don't get some of the breaks that you caught,
some of the lucky shit that happened in your life,
the right place, the right time, an introduction to somebody.
life changes for everybody
my nigga. And so we sit around
and we judge sometimes based on
what we did with our lives but a lot of that
shit was lucky Nick I got shot point blank range
I was 20 years old. I was a fucking
child prodigy I got shot point blank range
right here two times I could have been
not talking on this microphone right now
based on a luck of the draw a flip of a
coin so I'm not going to judge somebody
else and say that they couldn't be going down this path
because I could have been on that path
if a few things changed
Joe your own your own
your own song if all else fails.
You say, if all else fails,
I go back to what I know.
Yeah.
That's what happened.
That's what happened.
That's where we are having
our fundamental disagreement.
All else did not fail.
Fair.
All else didn't fail.
For you.
For him.
How do you know that?
Maybe you all figure that.
For me, that's part of the problem, right?
We're going to come back to this child prodigy thing.
This is a serious conversation right now.
You wasn't letting that go.
We were all thinking it.
Come on.
You wouldn't let that go.
But, like, to say all else failed for him, I think we got to, I agree with everything you're saying about people's circumstances how they raise shapes the decisions.
And the luck of the draw.
And look at all that shit.
Sometimes the only difference between us and them is luck.
I mean, so I don't want to ever get too high and mighty about that.
But I don't want to normalize this idea that they don't make enough or they don't have enough.
I get how the society makes them think that.
Who's normalizing that?
No, I'm not.
Not.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not talking, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm
was that, you know, like 120, you know, after taxes or 60, or 60.
Most of the fucking world makes $60,000.
Right.
That made a country, excuse me.
You know, and if you make 120, you're fine.
We got, we got to stop reinforce this idea that the 120 that they're making actually
isn't enough for them to have their life.
If you could make $120,000 working three nights.
But Mark.
Fuck that.
You won.
But Mark, what this is the thing?
Yeah, how do we get to all else founded by me?
That's not all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.
Isn't his 120 or 150 different being that he is a public figure?
Yes.
And that's the shit that you all are.
So he can't fucking wear target sweatsuits with the fresh blue balances.
Willfully,
ignoring that point.
When you get on the mic and crack on niggas for being,
not being able to fly economy or first class,
et cetera, et cetera.
You getji Gotti now.
You are a public figure now.
You crack on us, nigga.
Bro, if I'm coming here, let me finish, please.
Yo, you crack on us.
It's a certain standard that now once you are famous,
everybody's living.
We're not going to sit here and act like...
Y'all mute up and let him finish.
We're not going to sit here and act like expectations
don't fall upon people that reach a certain level of stardom
because they do, especially in our neighborhoods.
My response to what you're saying is
if you are thinking about your fame
and how it's relative to why you can't get a job,
then you should also.
be thinking about your fame and how
it's relative to why you should not
be robbing a string of pharmacies
and getting in a Camry
with three other niggas and then running
off. You're not even a runner.
Well look. Well look.
Hold up for me. You can't
run. You can't run.
I'm questioning it. You can't
run, nigga.
Yo. You said, do you see the video mark?
No.
Yo, you're not even a getaway driver.
Yo, it was right. They got you.
I said they laid the thing.
how sorry, they got the car.
You made it a centimeter.
Not even.
From here to that camera.
Like, what are we doing?
No.
They didn't even want to shoot you.
Yo, no, honestly, Corey.
You run so bad.
We're not going to kill you.
Yo, we don't even get up.
You said it.
Yo, I'm not going to kill.
We got you, buddy.
Yo, you're not going to go away.
Hey, bro.
Hands behind your back.
On your knees.
You might have made me get tired.
Just stop because you can't get away.
Yeah.
And you're going to die.
Stupid.
Listen, and with to you.
point, right? That's funny example.
In podcasting, right? That's not a fly
thing. That's not something that people, people podcasting
they sweats and they're athletic gear.
Let me come up this bitch with my hair and I'm dying.
They drag me for 10 days about it. So the fact
that you're all sitting like, oh, he makes
150, normal people make 150.
Normal people can go to Wai and pajamas.
You can't when you're the bad rubber. So I'm not
saying it like, you can. Yes, you can.
You're still stupid.
Can't. Wait, let me finish.
What I'm saying about you can't is that
you go to Wawa in your pajamas, niggas, niggas,
picture next battle. That's the thing. This broke-ass
nigga, like, why are we acting like,
and that's the thing. I sit here
Furno not laid and get dragged
for Furno not being late, and this is a podcast.
So I know, Furno's a fucking $700
fucking things. These niggins expect me to have
fresh hair every Friday. That shit is expensive.
So, yes, I know what that feels like to have to
keep up appearances because Demona
would wear meek-mill braids to the store
about good, babe. Demona.
Demona. In the event,
you need a little bummed out
he's birthday
let it get it off
yes people expect for you to come on a broadcast
with millions of people watching
with your frontal done
my frontal be done they want to
a certain level of done
that's true
especially after you say it ain't need
if you poll any of these people
I can assure you
they do not want you robbing
a string of pharmacies
to pay to get your front to a gun
I don't think they care how I do it
and that's the thing
no no no no I think she's right
they don't give a fuck
they want they want to be able to
criticize you in that way and that's the first
way and then you gotta think I'm a
podcaster that don't even really fit in this world
but we're bad a rapid dude we talk shit
about each other you know what I mean so yes if you get
caught looking strays you look court with some fake
they're paying you're gonna talk shit
about you I know
they're paying you oh my god
the world is horrible this guy
standing across for me is talking
about me and I made 50
grand to be here I was just getting ready to say
what the fuck are you saying it's the part
that you're all because again I'm being there
with battle rappers, soon as that shit over.
And this nigga could have had you
looking crazy up there.
Them niggas laughing and joking.
Because we all just got paid.
We at the club.
I sat there with my brother at battles.
I'm like, yo, how the fuck are you chilling with them niggas?
Yeah.
Especially if you were just got paid.
He'd be killing me.
Tell me, you know, nigga, we just got paid.
We out.
How old were you when you got shot?
20.
Kid.
I was 20-something when they put a gun in my head
and 16, 17,
breaking in houses.
and just all of the mistakes and all of the shit
where I thank God that luck came in like you spoke about,
I was young.
At 46 almost, I can't be wandering in the world
saying I need that luck of the draw.
Some of this got to be my thinking, my decision making,
my discernment, association brings on affiliation,
my friend group, what I'm waking up doing every day,
my talks with a higher power, my goals, my focus.
No, no, no, it's irresponsible with hip-hop to keep saying
yo, at 40, and I don't know how old Gitchigata is
because I didn't Google it.
At 40, where we come from
and, yo, my perspective
when I walk into Walgreens
with the pajama pants on, yo, listen to the
audience, listen up.
Nobody has, no rapper has
walked in Walgreens bummier than me.
True.
None of them.
I'm agreeing with them.
CBS, you name it.
They know you and they said you're pretty bummy.
They know.
They know.
They know.
They were bummed.
They both said you are bummy most of your life.
Let me ask you a question.
Hold up, Joe.
Hold up, Joe.
I'm going to, I'm segue in.
No, no, no.
Let me ask you a question.
Well done.
Let me ask you a question.
I hate Mona.
Joe today, right?
Joe today is definitely a different Joe of yesterday
based on how the world is perceiving you.
Would you agree with that?
No, I would stop it after Joe is a different Joe.
Then I wouldn't say based on how to work.
Based on everything.
No, I'm just saying by how you present outside.
it's different, bro.
We've been around you for 20 joints.
It's different.
So what I'm saying is...
I ain't stepping in Walgreens.
You're crazy.
I get what you said.
I don't think you're wrong about...
I think the standard changes
when you're in the public eye.
It is, bro.
I'm not disagree with that.
I'm just saying that can't be the end of the...
True.
It shouldn't be.
And I feel like sometimes we accept the behavior
but say, well, he is in public eyes.
We got to do this.
That's how I feel about what I'm saying.
We all three think is dumb.
We all think three things he didn't think that thing through.
We all think it's stupid.
Me, I would appreciate it if the pharmacy robbery ring got busted
and then they found out months later that he was the chestpiece guy.
That I appreciate that type of crime.
But that's what I was trying to get to.
You're saying why this happened, this might have been the sixth time.
This might have been the 14th time and they've been getting it off and got a complex.
You know, I'm tight on board right now.
I know how we can get it because we've done this in the past.
Cool, let's go make this quick run real quick.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
We got it off.
I'm not championing dumb criminals.
No, no, no.
We're not a championing.
We're not even a guy.
Because what you're saying, hold on.
Let me see how I'm interpreting what you're saying is a dumb criminal.
It's akin for me to, they're going to climb me, but I'm saying my example anyway.
The bartender that's 30 that, y'all, I'm getting out at 31.
Y'all, I'm getting out at 32.
I'm getting out at 33.
But the fast money is so great.
None of that's happening anytime soon.
So the criminal that's like, yo, whatever you just said,
yo, I've been getting this off.
I'm going to get it off again.
Yo, I got this off in Cincinnati.
I'm going to get it off again.
I'm going to Ohio.
I'm going to get it off again.
At what point and at what age does that thinking change is what I'm asking.
At the third minute.
Answer me first before you go on your-
I'm letting him go.
Well, I was responding to something else.
Do you want?
I can answer you.
Anybody answer me, please.
Answer that.
One, it don't ever change until you find something else to supplement that income.
And that's the gift
and the curse of the streets
The same way
It's the gift
And the curse of the
Bartender Chicks
Until you find something else
That can pick
One of my niggas lost his job
And he was like
Yo dog back to the streets
The streets are always there
For me
Always there
Always on
So until you find something else
That supplements that income
So now we see
Especially in New York
It's a worldwide broadcast
I can only speak for New York
Now you see all the old bartenders
All the old strippers
Getting into the real estate game
Selling Frenches
They all they're greet
They all know
They sell it for you
I know shit
I know what I'm going to
I'm the ghetto
I'm the guiseer whisper
I disagree with you saying
because you know why
in my experience
when people change
The answer to that is
when you grow up to a certain extent
when you get baptized
or you take shahada
where you make that decision
where I don't do shit like that
because I don't want to be a part
of shit like that
I've seen people change on that nowhere
you get to a certain level
whether it's maturity
whether it's loving God
loving the world or whatever
where I don't do that anymore.
And a lot of times when you do those,
make those better changes for yourself,
you kind of draw a positivity in
and then you get this new career.
Or be a close call.
Or you get caught.
That is a very small number.
I'm saying, in my experience,
it's like the diehard street niggas I knew,
they did not make money in real estate first
and then switch.
Those niggas made a decision.
They was broke as fuck
and then they were blessed with whatever the next hustle was.
Because in a way,
you have to kind of make that thing
where I don't do this no more.
I don't give a fuck.
What happens?
I'm not selling poison to my community.
I don't care what happens.
I'm not risking my life by robbing the bank.
I'm not doing that.
You know what I mean?
I love my life more.
I care about my kids,
whatever that thing is.
And then, you know, things change positively.
As far as when I've seen die hard,
real street niggas change.
I never really seen, you know,
it happened just because they tried something legal
and they're working.
It's like, oh, let me do this.
Because Greece said,
and then you went the money from my house.
I would like to add to that too
because the other part that's blurry for me is,
like it said,
the streets are always there.
Always there and always on.
Refer to it as you need.
Right.
And I know I'm old, so I'll say in my day,
the streets were the barrier for entry.
And then once the street niggas,
like most of the street niggas
that was doing street shit,
they didn't have something else to do.
They didn't have something else to fall back on.
Correct.
The pivot that I talked about.
So look at him.
Look at him.
Keep on.
No, no. Keep on.
That's where I'm making the differentiation.
Okay, go ahead.
Is that, cool, you may have started in the street.
Now you have found your purpose.
I'm calling it his purpose because that's how good he is at it.
He's great.
And if he's great, he's great.
He's one of the best, clearly.
And if you believe in that and you want to truly give yourself a shot,
then when do you not rob the pharmacy, even though that's where you came from?
You're asking for a lot, though sometimes, Joe?
I'm gonna tell you why.
I'm asking for a lot to save yourself.
No, no, no, no, no.
To save the best in the world.
No, no, no, no.
Again, this person, I don't know how many children he got a wife.
I don't know which people you're supporting.
And again, once that money slows up that you was getting, hold on.
Let's try this one.
Once that money slows up, the bills don't stop.
Let's try it this way because we know Gigi Gotti, but let's try the different way.
Okay.
If surf comes home and he's coming home.
Correct.
He actually, I love you.
This week.
Any day now.
Welcome home, nigga.
And three months later,
he's the one that,
he's the one that pharmacies, robbing,
he was in the car,
they tried to get away from the cops,
he ran, they called him,
he's back in jail.
What would our messaging be to him?
You dumb bitch.
Of course.
Y'all were cursing the fuck out.
That's your people.
Who are you talking to?
All of us in here.
All of us in here.
Personally, I don't mean on air.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, no.
No, no.
We know him.
We love him.
That's our brother.
What would our message?
be down. I can tell you what mine would
be. Him, his whole family
know what mine would be, so I ain't even got to go.
And I look at, and I'm looking at
Gitchie like that.
We would look at surf a certain way,
right? Because
we think he
has an alternative. No, he
has one. I know. Why do you say we think?
Listen, because I'm trying to be objective.
We would look at surf as
that type of way because we think he has an
alternative, which is he could come up here
if he needs money, he can do
other things.
Could rap and give him Ozzy,
he's network resources.
So if somebody necessarily
does not have the
capability of generating
enough income to take care of them and their
family, that's when the plan B's
plan C's, plan Ds come in for
a lot of people, I think we lose inside of that.
And I think we simplify in the fact that
yo, you could just go out and make some money somewhere
and everybody don't necessarily
have that ability to go make
enough money to sustain them
in their families.
Okay.
I think his only two jobs in the streets.
Let me reply to it.
I think that is, I think that is a phenomenal point that you just raised.
My counter to that is people have to give themselves a shot.
So if you're telling me that you're not able to make any money from your talent,
I know mad people that got talent and don't have a manager, don't have a role manager,
don't have this, or don't have some of the ancillary pieces that you need to have,
help get your talent where it needs to go.
I would urge you to try to find those pieces and exhaust all options before we get to
less rob the pharmacies and get in the Camry with these three loser niggers and try to run
on foot.
I'm not, I think both could be taking place simultaneously.
I think that.
But in the event, in the event you don't have them people, in the event you didn't get to find
these people that you speak of.
Yet.
And now I get desperate, because that's what happens.
desperation start to set in
and niggas now I got to make
something shape. Now it ain't time for
I could get a manager I could go do this
I could go do this now I'm desperate
desperation yields beautiful
results in art
not so much in real
in real life
take your desperation
go lock yourself in a small
fucking shed or room or basement
and make something
I have a question for you right
as a person that I'm asking a rap
as a person that has had
father to not feed their kids.
You're not feeding your kids.
Joe, hear me out.
While you locked in the shed, working on yourself,
you're working on yourself,
you're trying to find a manager,
you're trying to do all of the things you're saying
that I'm agreeing with you.
Because I don't want to act like I'm caping
for the niggas doing crime.
We're not capers.
I'm not at all.
Well, I'm only keep pushing back
because some of it begins to sound that way.
Yeah, I know, and that's what I said.
I'm not capable.
I was going to say real fast.
You know how you watch them documentaries
to understand, like, the mind of the murderer.
Men are talking.
You know how you always watch the killer doc
because you just be wanting to know
why they did certain things you try to understand.
Not saying it was right.
That's all we doing.
It's just I can understand what led you to make these decisions.
I can understand that.
It's not right.
I'm not condoning it.
But I could understand how a person like him
could end up doing that.
I get it.
I'm not saying it's right.
Excuse me.
I'm coming straight to you after that.
I understand it.
two, the next time I see him, I'm going to dab him and talk to him about how stupid I think
the move was.
True.
I'm not going to champion it.
I ain't going to say, oh, you almost, it's not going to be like a laughing or joking matter
to be.
I love him, care about him.
And again, he's one of the more talented.
It ain't like we're saying this about some losing.
I would tell him to go rob all the perkinset in the world.
You know who else think?
You know who else going to sit there and have the conversation and think how stupid this was?
and damn him.
Yeah, yeah.
Right now.
He's having that conversation.
He can't eat easy.
Fuck, yo, why did I do that?
You don't think he regret that?
Your first couple days in jail are horrible.
I don't know if he regrets it, one.
And the moral of my story is to get him to a certain point before that point comes.
Before we get to, I regret it and I don't have another chance.
Like, let's do some different thoughts back to you.
My question is, as a person that has had success in success that came with fame in two ways with rapping and with this, right?
what nigga? You'd pump it up guy
That's how my brain goes
Okay I'm sorry
So I do think
My question of only to all you all of especially you is
Is some point
Does fame kind of work against you
Meaning like I'm famous as fuck for what I did
Right? Just like I know
I'm sure you know plenty of rappers that
Has some success and then they fell off
But they're still famous okay
When you get to that point
If you do not want to stay in entertainment
Or you do not know how to hustle off the entertainment
You kind of put yourself in this box
because you're fucking famous.
So work in certain jobs.
And let's say, like Park said,
why you got to work at Target?
Cool.
But even if you work at the fucking warehouse,
your supervisor treat you funny
because you're fucking famous.
So that's what I'm saying.
As a famous person,
because you've been famous for a long time.
But I'm, I understand your question.
Is your name?
I understand your question.
I'm ill-equipped to answer it
because money to me was more important
than my pride.
So I was broke as a rapper.
Okay.
If I had to go to the warehouse, I was down to do it.
And if niggas was going to talk, I was.
I'm kidding.
You can make a, it's not cap.
Did you work?
Did you work between them times?
I'm just curious.
Did you work anywhere between the times of Joe Button broke rapper to Joe button podcast?
Did you get fucking out?
Work as in normal people post office CBS?
No, but I did things for money pause that I didn't want to do.
True.
And sometimes you had to be coerced into doing some of that shit.
Because I remember some of the conversations with.
nigga, the lights is off.
You gotta go do X, Y, and C.
So you did have pride.
And the coercion is from his village
that he was blessed to have.
There you go.
And that's what I'm saying.
Let's get to it.
That's all I'm saying.
And you did have pride.
It's times when Corey was managed you.
Corey argued what you like, no, nigga,
we got to go do this.
We don't have a fucking choice.
And the coercion was like,
all right, yeah, you're right.
But you had to court.
Yes.
But you had the pride initially and didn't want to do it.
I don't understand how you relate that to the illegal shit.
No, no, no.
I didn't say illegal.
I'm talking about the pride.
You said pride always for you
I mean money came before pride
And I said that was captain
And then it's time to tuck your pride in your pocket
After diggers get on your ass to tuck your right
But everybody skip my question
And my question was
Is there a time where fame works against you
Because in my mind I'm a hustler
So my fame is always going to work for me
I don't give a fuck I have to do meet and greets
At Disney World and Dorney Park
I'm doing that shit
But I'm a hustler
So I know a lot of people on the other end
I did this shit I was good at it
I ain't even trying again
It's too hard
But I want to move on do what I normally do
and I used to work at supermarkets.
Now I fucking can.
That's what I'm saying.
But it's niggas, like,
young jock.
Young jock.
True.
The shit went viral with them doing the door die of shit.
Like, it happens.
People overrate their fame, bro.
Like, someone, no disrespect to Gichigati,
there might be one person that sees him in the fucking back room at a corporate office and takes a picture.
He ain't working at all baby.
Or the car wash.
Or a car wash.
It knows who he is.
No disrespect to him.
Right.
It's okay.
Yeah.
You can get a regular job.
And to them they say, I do that and all of that,
or I go hit this quick lick right here and boom.
And a lot of them will choose the quick lick.
And if that thinking makes sense to you, then have a glass.
You got to live with the consequences.
Yeah, you got to live with the consequences.
That sucks, man.
It sucks to be one of the best rappers in the world in jail, though.
That sucks, yeah.
Because the niggas is lining up begging that nigger to rap right now.
Sometimes that street money don't even be the most money either to.
Say what you say, works?
Sometimes that street money don't be the most money.
He sounds like he really.
We're doing a lot of shit, but...
But it's not a lot of money, but that was a lot of money.
That's a nice hustle.
And be clear, right?
Like, in rap, because I don't speak for the top 5% that wrapped and made it.
Like, I speak for the field where you rap to earn yourself another day and another shot and another chance and another deal and another brown bag feature and another hosting and another...
You're fighting for the day.
That fight is over when I go to jail.
Agreed.
It is.
No more fight.
It's also crazy if you were making, with the arbitrary figures, $150,000 a year, battle rapid.
And this seems like it was a lot of work, but you could potentially end up getting a lick for fucking $5,000 and go to jail for 10 years behind that.
That lick was easy.
Like when you were making, you could make $150,000 league.
Yeah, come on, man.
Come on.
more question for y'all but again if i can't speak i can't put myself in that situation he came
up in that so they might they look his whole view of the world could be different from mine last
question for all y'all if it did come out last question for all of y'all if it did come out that
instead of him actually in the camera robin he just set it up found the pharmacies he was like the
boss of it so sit like that usually come out to watch at the trial is that different else i know
hypothetically i just said would it change no months later after
trial that he was the one putting
you know, getting niggas to get into the vernal cars bringing?
Would he be less dumb?
No, no.
Bro, we sat here and called Max dumb for the same shit
for that whole situation. He wasn't there.
Was nowhere near when that happened.
And people called him dumb for that situation.
It was some dumb shit that happened in that situation.
He was not there, wasn't even in the state.
And they still called him dumb.
And they still called him dumb.
Because why?
Perception. You on these blogs, you're doing all of this.
You look like this. You always showing all this money.
And that's what y'all did?
or that's what your people's did
it's the same thing
like y'all
whether you're there or not
we're gonna view it the same way
and don't let my commentary
misconstrue where I'm at with it
free Gigi Gotti
and I do think that that's a mistake
and he deserves another chance
but at some point
this shit is stupid
it is I think the whole mentality
how we're talking about it's deeper than that
it's the mentality
we were doing this in hip-hop for
I mean
remember cool scene steady beat
30 years ago
doing the same
we've been saying this shit forever
at some point
if you're going to run away from the cops
then you should be able to run
you know what
You should be quick.
And unfortunately.
I was a booster for years and I could not run.
I remember running out the mall and the security running at the same speed as me.
Well, he was really speedwalking, but I was giving it all I had.
And he said to me like, bro, can you just stop?
And I just, I gave it all.
And when I was, I can't run, but I used my arms to pump.
But, you know, I was still a criminal and I still tried to run every time.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean.
I'm running.
I'm getting fuck if I'm slow.
This nigga might be my trip.
It might be my lucky fucking day.
I love that.
I love that y'all brought up luck.
I love that y'all brought up luck or being blessed because I never think about that.
I often tell people all you have to do the dream is chasing and work hard and all that.
You can be just like me.
I'm crazy.
No, the truth is it's a little magic in it and everybody doesn't have it.
Yep.
Some of you're sitting there writing those raps and writing those scripts and all that and that shit's never going to go anywhere.
Every living second, who this applies to anyway, every living second of a battle rapper's life that this applies to should be.
folk every second every second should be focused on figuring out how to not be paid only an
appearance fee for when you show up rap and leave that applies to all levels of artistry by the way yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah off a battle rap yeah true yeah you're right probably more so for battle rap
because yes but yeah it applies to everybody and what y'all should be y'all should be figuring out
how to be paid from every time someone watches your battle.
And some of you have figured that out.
Some of y'all have started your own leagues and your own networks and started funneling money and paying battle rappers investing in yourselves.
Some of y'all have done it.
Some of you have taken your notoriety and started other businesses, i.e. goods, conceded, fucking hollow.
There are examples in battle rap of successful business models.
And there are examples of not so successful business models.
Yeah.
The Gigi-Gadi business model as it stands is not a work.
It's not a working.
Find you somebody that know what they're doing.
You battle rappers don't even pick up the phone and use your fucking resources and think tank
and toss ideas around.
I've been a fan of this shit for a billion years.
One of the only niggas that ever call me come do dinner, come have tea, just to float ideas,
is Lux, who also just so happens to be one of the best battle rappers.
world and one of the best minds.
Like, why niggas think they got time to play fucking mook?
Another one, like the best in the world are taking the time to figure out, all right,
it ain't in just showing up to rap.
Hey, the best rappers in music land, real music business.
I'm saying, hey, it ain't in just rapping.
Like, it's in some ownership.
It's in my pub.
It's in my brand.
Bracking up the civic full of CDs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not fucking biking.
Yeah.
Burn a CD, rap archipelan, nigger, go self.
Ten of them.
Do something.
But anything to give yourself another shot, Gigi Godi, I love you, you and my prayers,
and I hope that you get free and don't do this stupid shit again.
I'm not telling you nothing different than I tell my brother's surf when he go in.
Yo, nigger, enough now.
Enough now.
We did it.
We had all the fun.
We did all the crimes.
We got, ba-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b.
We get hate.
You know.
One thing, Joe, the best advice that you gave them is when you said it, you said it.
You mentioned it fast, but you said something about changing the people you roll around with.
You really can't hang with the niggas that you did street shit with when you're on this new journey.
Because a lot of times, them, them you heard them CBS safes don't work.
You know what I mean?
You changing your friend group changes the fact that that even slides in your mind.
When I first started this, I came from outside.
I switched my, I built a friend group of creatives because I didn't have that.
But that helps.
So when I start talking crazy about, yeah, damn, I should rob such and such and such.
they'll be like, bitch, what?
Because they didn't come from that.
So that's something that you can control on your own,
finding new friends.
And I think a lot of people make mistakes at trying to do the global domination.
You got 30,000 people that fuck what you feed them.
They will purchase things from you.
They will support you.
You don't have to worry about getting a billion and a trillion fees
when the 30,000 you have will pay you.
They'll tip you that give you whatever.
You know?
I agree with everything Mona said.
You know what else would be of a major service?
Like, just looking at.
people in the eyes, right?
When I was a teenager and we used to plan to go rob the gas station or rob the fucking
brink's truck or try to or go to the rich suburban neighborhoods and break in the house,
we would be in a trap house right on Clinton Ave.
A few of us sit around the table and we would hand out the gigs.
All right, you're going to do this at 8 o'clock and you're going to do this.
And it was me and a couple of the homies.
and because it was a trap house
it was some crackhead niggas in there
and sometimes little white Bobby
would be at the table
and they would try to give him a task
like yo when we bus in
you're gonna get the door you time up
and little Bobby would be like
and I could
and I would be like
no you can't
you just gotta look people in the face
and recognize
who you should and shouldn't be doing
a fucking crime with
none of them niggas he ran with
look
they like rats
I didn't tell
what they look funny
I ain't seen
I just seen it on
I just seen them running
but again
they didn't look like
this crime would be successful
but you spit
but something was successful Joe
that's all I'm got
that's the part you've seen
some criminals look successful
some criminals do have
a not so successful
look on them
free Gigi Gotti
also
that was really stupid
no it was
I agree.
And them niggas you was a little stupid, too.
It's slow.
You got to enforce telling niggas when they were with stupid niggas, y'all.
I think niggas, niggas, no.
When they all sitting in there, they know, damn, this is stupid.
Niggas had that reflection time.
Look at the car first, right?
If you was going to try to escape from the police, like, you wasn't in the Uris.
Oh, come on, Joe.
Like, you wasn't in a Ferrari and I'd be like, you know what?
You're just full up on me eye.
Ghosties, niggas was in a brand-new path by the awesome.
That's what I'm spikuous shit.
That's what I'm saying.
But you're trying to blend in with the regular cars.
No, they was conspicuous.
They was mad conspicuous.
Yo, that's the other thing.
The fad niggas don't track you from the first Walgreens, you dodo.
But they had the nigga on the airport.
Once he landed, they was like, right, there he go.
We're watching them.
Yeah, sorry, buddy.
But you don't know that.
You think this shit business as usual.
That first night in jail, you replay your day.
Yeah, you're trying to figure out where you went, where it went wrong.
It's the worst.
Those first couple days are horrible.
Keep you here that boy.
Thank God you change your life.
Yeah, because what?
That shit wasn't.
Joe, it took me an hour in there
to know that I wouldn't be trying to return.
It took me watching somebody else go.
And I don't even get like your life like for you being single.
That's it.
That's the thing about girls.
So is I heard it.
All the girls are fucking, you know what I mean?
And I don't, you know, I've never dated a girl.
You definitely look like the star in the next season of Orange is the new black.
I can't believe they did that movie about boosters without me.
But let's move.
You should have been in this fucking.
Why the fuck wouldn't I be a part of that movie, Kiki Pomer?
I'm starting to believe what they say about you, bitch.
Well, it's true what they say about Kiki Pong.
She's in a queerer.
I know she's shitty.
When I say they say, I mean me.
Right, I know it's you.
I'd be saying mad.
When I said them, I was saying Joe.
I wanted to say Joe.
Because she is another one, but I get it.
We love her.
Nickelodeon kids.
How do you have a booster movie without, you know?
So if you haven't had, if I've ever, if there was ever a day where I was grateful that an estate put a stop to something.
It was this sexy red.
Michael Jack, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.
Oh, no, no, no, shut up, girl.
It was the sexy red remake of Michael Jackson's Beat It.
If you've never heard it.
It's never heard it, so you got to get it.
Unfortunately, I'm going to play it for you.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Eat it.
Oh, my God.
Stop it, stop it.
I'm sorry.
Stop it.
I apologize.
I'm sorry, y'all.
I'm sorry, bro.
I blame us for this.
Leish ain't doing that over Prince record.
I blame us.
I think that, and the thing about sexy is I remember when sexy, sexy ripe,
I remember when sexy was getting featured on Sukihana songs, and Sukihanna was the bigger
star.
And she moved to Miami, and she really started to hustle.
So I really enjoyed seeing her shit work like it did, especially in the beginning of it.
She just walking down South Beach talking to people going viral, and this, because she got
this wild ass song or whatever.
But that music didn't sound good.
I don't know what the fuck the vibe was
where we were like fucking with it so heavy
because it never really sounded that great.
And I feel like where her,
like it's just past.
I can't see her getting back there.
You know what I mean?
I don't see her talented music.
Never catching another one.
Yeah, so it's like, please.
But they put it with Bruno Mars
and it ain't work still.
Never catch.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, it's time for her to be.
That don't do it.
Never catching another one.
And she hustler.
I know whatever she does next.
reality television she was sore
you know what I mean but when she dropped
lip glosses when she dropped
lip glosses and named them
chlamydia and shit like that and people bought that
like we did that we did this where she thought
she could do that and Michael and Tito wasn't going to call
you know what I mean or anybody would like it
but at this point I don't and that's what I mean when I say
she a hustler I don't even know if this is a hustle
because Carisha just dropped the song that was
ass so ass that it went viral right
you know something something to you see your two fingers
touching it was horrible it's tea when you see your two
You fingers that it's T.
It was bad.
It was bad, but...
You are such a bird.
You are such a bird.
He knows it because it's viral.
Why do you know the fuck are that?
These things are unplugged so Amy missed it.
We're right.
We're liegas.
We got dicks.
We're not supposed to know that.
Nah.
But I said that to say,
sexy rid is such a hustler and I respect her
because I watched her do it.
I wouldn't be surprised if she dropped something
ass to emulate with Miami just did
because she's a trapper.
You get me?
Miami just went viral
on some,
this song is ass.
I would not be surprised
if she had that in the tuck.
She knew it was ass.
She knew it was going to get dropped,
but it's going to get people talking about it.
Before this,
when they did we talk about.
We were playing around
in a karaoke bar.
Yeah, it's pretty bad.
Yeah, it do.
That shit is,
Michael was over there like,
you see this shit.
I don't know, Michael's a hood.
Mike, Mike was looking up like
Mike Mike said.
Mike says something on that.
You see this shit.
I don't call it.
I don't do that in law.
down that there
where's this fucking
You know you got this shit
saying
You know it's tea
When you see them
Two fingers touching
Yeah
I don't love that
It's corny
It's bad
But it was viral
For being corny
And everybody did their own
version of it
And you make
I know she made bread
Of that
I know she did
You know
That was a splash
For her
I hate all this shit
Yeah
So
I don't know
It's over
But I'm with you
though
It's our fault
Music
Young
What's your name
Sexy Red
It's over you
Yeah
Carisha
Stop.
Careers.uPS.com.
Listen.
She's too famous.
In Jersey City, in the heights, there's a few pharmacies with low security.
Just go hit a pharmacy.
Start sitting there.
They get you on the mission.
Hey, sexy red.
Carisha.
Yo, they got some motherfucking person shit over there.
Yeah.
Go hit all of the pharmacies, y'all.
Right there on west side.
Right there.
Don't send the girls in the pharmacy.
It's over for them.
No, they're there.
But it's over.
Mom and Pop pharmacies,
they ain't got the best security.
Carisha looked great.
And when Puff come on,
we'll see what happens with those two.
But it's over.
You know it's T when you see them two fingers.
And I think sexy red is a nice person too
and a lot of people like her.
Because that new video she just filmed,
my girl was in it,
Nail Front of the Pod.
Janice, she's in that video.
They filmed the video with Chief Keefe's in it too.
Just her having that relationship with Chief Keefe.
You know what I mean?
Chief Keefe is...
If you're really nice,
then you can get direct.
register at Target.
They won't just have you in the owls
where they put the rude target work.
If you have some niggas where the toy aisle at,
they just keep walking by.
I don't know I'm working at the department.
They can read the sign and say toy.
I told you my last three times in Target
was when that smile rule got passed.
I was stepping to them. Ain't you both
smelling me?
Yo, you...
Ain't you supposed to be smelling at me, nigga?
What's going on?
Sexy rag, Karek, do us a favor.
Please. Honestly.
Sorry, Larry Jackson.
Well, you got Kanye coming out.
You don't care, nigga.
I ain't seen a shit.
Sexy Ray Larry Jackson picture and age.
Can y'all see Carisha coming back?
Coming back where?
As far as doing music by herself, you did it.
You almost got, I'm glad you said it.
I almost did it.
Carisha, you're done.
There's a few other female rappers that are done.
I won't name them.
Nope.
I won't name them.
It's a couple of them.
It's a couple of them.
We ain't going to hear a few songs from a few female rappers.
You're not going to hear no song.
At all.
Not a few.
They're looking happy, though.
See?
That's why I can't play with it.
Because he got to go do that.
Why?
I say they look happy.
You don't, you don't just need a...
Sometimes more than a song
can make you happy.
You're right.
You know it's T when you see them two fingers touching.
See, that's what I mean about rappers
that don't have a good friend group.
Somebody in that studio should have said,
bitch, don't just take the new hot lingo
off the internet and try to put it on the chorus.
Why not?
That's what they've been doing.
Why not?
But sometimes it don't work.
When it don't work, it don't work.
But you said somebody should tell you.
them not to do it.
I'm going to go back to what worked.
And you're saying they TikTok and they flipping and all of that.
But all negative is.
Most of the TikTok was clowning how it sucks.
So?
It wasn't like something that you showed.
She wasn't happy about it.
But then it started really going.
And then, you know, she started fucking around with it.
Okay.
Cardi started her tour the other day and she said some shit about if ICE come,
we're going to bear mace them.
Yeah.
And then the Twitter account of the Homeland Security, bro.
Homeland Security.
replied saying
didn't you used to drug men
or something that that account shouldn't
be saying. Yeah, yeah, because
whatever they said, that account shouldn't
be saying that. No, that's the
White House page be saying wild
shit. DHS, yo, they bugging
the fuck out now. And they already replied
with, she shot back and I liked it.
It was a good shot. It was true.
There's only four, like four female rappers
I can support now. Yeah, what she said? She said
well, since you're talking about, they said
something along the lines of, well, this
This is a, we would, I'm paraphrasing, but we would rather her be doing this than drugging and robbing.
As long as she doesn't drug and rob our agents, we'll consider that an improvement over her last behavior.
Right.
And she said.
Oh.
Speaking of drugging.
Right.
Since we're talking about drugging.
Right.
She wrote Epstein files.
Well, how about them Epstein files and them little girls that y'all was drugging?
Right.
Let's talk about that.
I love that.
I love it.
Right there.
And back to superstar speaking out on shit.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, y'all dogs.
Let's talk about that since y'all want to say something.
Yeah.
Cardi has never been one of them tonguebiter kind of people.
Cardi's always, and she's intelligent.
I feel like Ice from the beginning,
they would have those videos made almost like movie clips
of them walking, and they look like The Terminator.
We're going to clean the streets.
It's like, what the fuck is going on?
The sick part is that they know Americans are dumb
and just that visual alone will have half the country,
like they're helping us.
It looks like a movie, when you look real.
Well, that's because the ICE targets,
they've already conditioned a lot of America
to look at as less than.
Y'all not human.
So that's why they place you,
they call you shit like illegal
or, you know what I'm saying,
immigrant, like you're alien.
Y'all not on the same level anyway.
So you start looking at them ice agents.
It's okay to be cruel to them.
Yeah, you look at the ice agents.
Like, yo, y'all are doing a good job.
Y'all helping clean the shit up.
It's terrible.
They're playing on your fears.
And when you, yeah, playing on your fear.
So when you initially roll it out as
we're going to get all the .
We're going to get all the criminals.
We're going to get the MS-13.
We're going to get the MS-13.
teens, we're going to get these people and these people.
You think you're doing a good job. That's the thing, until you see
him dragging some old lady grandma
outside that never committed a crime.
And you know the funniest part for that, because none of that
is funny, but I am a comic and I enjoy laughing.
The part that's funny in
that is that the
Latins that happen to vote for him
that believe that they will
only take the bad ones, right?
And now they're losing their cousins and their grandmoms
and shit. Some of them have left, you know?
Like that clip that went viral, she's like,
we all love Donald Trunk.
right you know the rumor is that bitch went back
or her husband or something
we all vote for
Dono trunk that shit ain't funny now is it
You got a skirt on now
DeKal like you moving your legs
Mora won't flash them niggas anyway
So bad
I know you
I've been fighting
She's trying to show up
Because I know what I know you
You know these couches
You came in here
I'm gonna get it niggas a little something
Not that far but once I say here
I threw it I would like to
When I was a kid I did
did that at ballet. Did you sterilize you?
We were all sitting around in the circle. Because you have a daughter.
Alright, man. Because you have a daughter. I was like five
and I'm sitting with my parents and we're in a ballerina thing
and we're all in a circle and I just
showed everybody. Why bitches don't be
sterilizing their clip rings? I was four.
I don't get no clip ring, nigga. I ain't that
kinky. Oh.
Corny. I ain't that kinky. No nipple rings, none of that.
You got to change the Wikipedia then.
That should say it's something sitting.
Can you get him?
Like, what the vibe is so
I'm good in here.
It's my birthday still.
Word.
Free piercings.
Hey, all y'all out there is moan the birthday,
throw something in the cash app.
Yeah, here you go.
Yeah, we didn't put that to bed,
begging for cash apps on birthdays.
Anybody begging?
That's so 2018.
Listen.
I put his cash app in his bio on his birthday.
What's the June 19th?
I forth the feeling, right?
I said, you're too old for this shit.
This birthday, don't do it.
you fucking do it, right?
And I'll welcome the day before my birthday.
They closed my cash app.
Oh, you go.
Oh, scamming.
All right, well, look, send it to my cash app.
I'll get it to her.
Send it to it.
Dollar sign officially ICE.
I'll get it to her.
I got you.
I got you.
Was anyone here blessed enough to watch the congressional hearing
featuring Pam Bondi?
What a mess.
Yo, my nigga, this might have been
a wild this shit.
I didn't know what was going on.
I just saw some clips going out.
And I'm like, wait,
what's,
I.
So let me tune in.
Fam,
they don't give a fuck.
That's what I took away.
Like,
they just,
they think we just,
they think we just,
no.
They think so to fuck what.
I did it and.
Like,
yeah,
what I'm saying?
Like,
they don't give a fuck.
Like,
yo,
you're not gonna,
y'all can't do shit about it.
Y'all can't penalize me.
I'm being,
the big homie got my back.
Y'all can't do a fucking thing.
Dude shit.
Bro, when you start.
Interview last week,
Deputy Attorney General,
Todd Blanche said that any victim that wants to speak with the department has done so,
hopefully.
Well, thanks to the incredibly brave people sitting here behind you, we can actually ask them if that's true.
Now, with the survivors and victims who are here, please stand up one more time.
Just by show of hands, how many of you or your loved ones actually have met with the Department
of Justice and provided testimony and evidence?
None.
And of those of you who have not met, which is everyone, how many of you have reached out
either individually or through a lawyer or representative to offer to provide testimony
and evidence?
No, Joe Biden.
All of them.
And of those of you, all of you who have reached out, how many of you were denied or ignored
by the Department of Justice?
All of them.
All of it.
All of it.
Despite the shameful and despicable efforts by Ms. Bondi and her department to intimidate you,
how many of you are still willing to speak to the Department of Justice?
All of them.
Well, Ms. Bondi, it looks like you have some more witnesses to talk.
No, he may use of his time.
No, no, no, a lot of them.
Yeah, them didn't know exactly.
I'm getting my shit off.
And listen, they are.
And they got it off.
Those survivors are so strong, like shout to them, so love to them.
You know the lady Virginia that took her own life last year.
I mean, she was fighting forever.
You know what I mean?
Imagine being in that fight and knowing what happened to you
and knowing it happened to so many people
and knowing so many important bigwigs know
and nobody gives the fuck.
And she gave up.
She left three kids and a husband.
This shit is sick.
And this is white women.
I kept stuttering when I was talking about that
because I remember when I first even heard about him
that, you know, it was young white girls.
But I didn't know if that was like true facts or not,
but it is.
all white girls. It's like they don't get
a fuck if the white girls, if the white girls
can't get no help. They don't care. That shit
is sick, bro. That shit is sick.
I can't even read it. Like, I can't. It's too
gross. Some of that shit is
like when you see some of the reports.
Most of them. It's some graphic
shit that's going on. I'm telling you.
It's some real like worse than
your favorite porn.
I want to ask
because I know people at home want to know.
You're the rest of the smart nigga. Is that picture real,
that viral picture of that little girl? She's
blind hair.
kid. I'm not sure. I don't know. I haven't seen
a verification. I don't know.
This, um, sorry. Make it up, nigger. Damn.
I just can't say yes to shit. I don't know.
This clip was, um...
Yo, Mona is stupid.
We podcast. This ain't, this ain't
B&T, but he can
answer the question, right, Mona?
We can lie up here, though, y'all.
Go ahead, John.
This clip was really
educational for me.
Admittedly as someone who hasn't
kept up with, yeah, the
Epstein fouls. I kind of have
blocked that off.
For many reasons, right?
I wasn't aware that there were so many
survivors. I wasn't.
And they've been trying for years.
I wasn't aware that they have been
trying to tell their story.
Have reached out to give their
account of things.
After watching this, I
did go read up a little bit.
And I
couldn't get very far.
some of the stuff that we've been hearing
let me speak for me that I've been hearing in passing
without reading up on any of it
it sounds so unbelievable
that you would just continue about your day
the stuff that was in there
about the dentist room
that was set up like a dentist
room and they would bring people in there
and put them under the anesthesia
and then take them and do
God knows what to them
and then they wouldn't remember anything
and when they wake up
all they would remember is that they were
in the dentist
there were
there were stories in there
about furniture
made of human
skin and bodies
I believe all that shit
bro
there was shit in there about
yeah the cream pie
about what they would do
to small children
babies bro
there were things in there that were
Yeah, like I've heard people talk about
the eating baby shit, but that shit is in there.
Yes.
Yes.
It's in there.
But on the conspiracy tip, they push it that it's like a democratic thing.
And it's anybody that hears it sounds so crazy,
but it happened.
It's just them.
It almost makes me think, like, was that a ploy to make it a rumor
about other people being that it was happening?
You know what I mean?
To, like, spin people.
But I'm with Joe.
Certain shit sounds so outrageous the way it is 2026.
I automatically don't believe it.
No way.
It ain't no way niggas is doing.
Bro, they just doing them.
They, like, that shit.
And that's the thing, man, when you get behind the scenes and when you get, when you get, you know, this isn't about political parties.
This is about rich.
I mean, Uber rich.
Uber rich.
Thank you.
Wealthy.
Yeah.
People.
The most powerful people in the world.
The elites.
Who, when they have an opportunity, do the most disgusting and depraved things that you can imagine to people.
And they do it with absolutely no consequence.
And that is really that simple.
And Hollywood.
Hollywood been telling us.
Yeah.
You know what that's what Teddy Riley was talking about when he was here
when he said Mike was trying to save people.
He was somewhere from Epstein Island in particular.
Yeah, I know what you did.
Yeah, you know. Because Mike's name is in there.
Right.
I saw a little bit of that.
When Teddy was here, I had not understood that.
I understood what he said.
I know exactly what he was saying.
Yeah.
That is like, bro, the shit.
She couldn't even look at the victims.
She didn't even look at them.
She didn't acknowledge them.
She didn't talk about the stock market.
Bro, she didn't acknowledge they existed as a woman.
A woman.
You didn't acknowledge they existed.
And the crazy part is six months ago they were saying it was a hoax.
And it's nothing there.
We not let nothing go because it ain't nothing there.
It doesn't exist.
It's six million pages.
In a year and a half ago, they ran on, we're going to release all the Epstein files.
Until you start seeing the names in the files.
Right.
Until they start in files.
Right.
Yeah, them saying that Trump's name is in there more than God's name.
38,000 in the Bible.
38, yeah.
In the Bible.
I'm going to be real.
I am convinced that people that are super racist, like people that they move with the fear
protect us about us and all that.
Yeah, yeah.
They're slow. They're dumb.
If you have any kind of intelligence, no matter how diehard of a trumper, you would feel
like they think you're dumb by now.
It would already click that this shit ain't right by now.
So the people that are still with him, it's the deeper.
It's a call.
They're involved.
It has nothing to do with policy, with racism.
You have a full allegiance to this guy.
You don't give a fuck what he does.
And that's just it.
That's why everybody else that was on the fence, it's time to get off of it and pick
aside.
This shit is weird.
This shit is extreme.
This nigga is a.
fucking predator. That's crazy.
And in the report, right?
Like, think the heavens up above
that they didn't want
no black and brown babies. Thank God,
bro. I hate to say it. No, no, no. They got other...
I don't know.
There's other uses for us. Do you know
what these people must think
of black and brown people
to not want to do these heinous
acts?
They do black and brown. They got worse. They got worse.
They got worse. They're telling you.
I saw some
say I wish I remembered who said it
because it was great.
If you said it, retweet
that you said it because you know who I'm talking about.
But they were like, once people realized that
Pam Bondi is Trump's
Gil-Gelaine Maxwell.
And it's exactly what she is.
That's exactly what is.
And she didn't plead the first.
And in listening to her
and all of that kind of
inhumane white nationalist talk
in listening to Cash
Patel and all
of that inhumane white
nationalists talk
like they didn't seem like
they were trying to be covert about anything.
At all, bro.
At all.
Like if you were, if you were,
if you were in any,
had any doubt that Trump was appointing
who he was
appointing to these positions.
This shit was
plain as day. The other day. I mean, we've been saw it with the
Elon tweets. I know he's not
as affiliated. He down. He down
to all the niggas is down.
Here we go.
General Bondi, you've got the best lawyer's job in America because your mission is justice and your clients are the American people.
But to promote justice for the people, you've got to listen to the victims like the women seated behind you today.
Those are just some of the hundreds of survivors of Jeffrey Epstein's global sex trafficking ring who are demanding that the truth be told and are demanding accountability for the abused.
I'm going to pause it.
Even them calling it a global sex trafficking ring understays it.
Yeah.
Facts.
It understates what was going on.
I'll continue.
He's curious.
Who trafficked and raped them.
Whether it's Epstein's human trafficking ring or the homicidal governmental violence against citizens in Minneapolis.
As attorney general, you're siding with the perpetrators and you're ignoring the victims.
That will be your legacy unless you.
act quickly to change course. You're running a massive Epstein cover up right out of the
Department of Justice. You've been ordered by subpoena and by Congress to turn over six
million documents, photographs, and videos in Epstein files.
Six million is nuts.
Two million.
Now you're not turning over the other three million because they're somehow duplicative,
but we know that there are actual memos of victim statements in there. And you also
took down the Department of Justice.
as his prosecution memo from
2019. So it's clearly
not all duplicative, but even if it were,
why not release it? Just
release all the duplicative stuff.
In half you did produce,
you redacted the names of
abusers, enablers,
accomplices. They redacted names
from three million papers.
That's crazy. That's why we only got three million.
That's the exact opposite of what the law
ordered you to do.
Many have kept their torment
private, even from family.
And friends, but you
This is craziness.
Their names. Their identities.
Their images
on thousands of pages
for the world to see.
So you ignored the law.
And even with over 100,000
employees at your disposal,
you acted with some mixture
of staggering incompetence.
This is not only
staggering incompetence.
This is disheartening.
This is discouraging.
To dole's point.
of them only having three million out of the six million
and all of that being redacted.
Yeah, we did half of it.
We redacted.
What we did.
We shot that out.
And we'll get the rest out after we finished Coleman through and redacting that shit.
We're going to get what we want you to have.
One dude said, yo, dog, even out of the three million pages,
I don't know his name.
One of the congressman.
He said, dog, 70% of that shit was redacted.
Bro, the shit was black line.
It was just black line, black line, black line everywhere.
Black box covering this whole shit.
Yo, the dude that he just appointed,
I think his name is Carl Nolan, I think.
You know what I'm talking about?
Bro, he has all types of thesis papers and all types of racist.
Jeremy Carl is his name.
Tell me how you define white identity
and what you think is being erased about white identity?
Certain types of Anglo-derived culture that comes from our history.
This is nuts.
Let me think about this.
You know, Senator, I would say if you were to look at the
book by one of your former Senate colleagues,
Lauren's fighting,
about the sort of Scotch-Irish military culture
and certain pride that went with that.
That would be one example.
Obviously, you can have sub-elements in that culture.
You could have Italians.
You can have Irish, and those are in many ways more...
But you're worried about white culture.
You're not worried about...
You're now retreating to ethnic identity.
You don't speak about ethnic identity.
You speak about white identity.
So tell me the values that stitch together
white identity and then make it different than black identity.
I would say that the white church is very different than the black church in terms of its tone and style on average.
Food ways could often be different.
And those are being erased.
Music can be different.
And those are being erased.
Music could be different.
Well, if you look at the Super Bowl halftime show, which was not in English this year.
So our ability to access white churches or white food or white music is being erased?
I am concerned with the majority common American culture that we had for some time that through particularly mass immigration, I think has become much more balkanized.
And I think that weakens us.
And again, I'm not running away from that comment.
I'm not apologizing for us.
I'm way over my time.
I think you're struggling to answer this question, right?
Because underlying your beliefs is a sentiment that white culture is just simply better.
Right.
I love when it's just straightforward
That's it
That's it
Just being frank
That's it
That's it
Right there
That's it
He just got appointed
By the president
Of the United States
For a major position
In his cabinet
Bro what the fuck are we talking about
To so all of you stupid
Black people
That be like Trump ain't racist
He's not racist
He not racist
Yeah he just pardoned some football players
He just pardoned some niggas
The other day
Jamal
Jamal the nigga from the NFL
That got caught with the five birds
I forgot his name.
Jamal something.
But anyway, to all of black people that are saying,
yo, he's not racist, he not racist, he not racist.
Cool, I'm going to sit up here and tap dance
so I could get y'all stupid motherfuckers' votes.
But every single person that I'm appointing into office
is showing their disdain for the marginalized people.
And a lot of black people,
and Hispanic people, unfortunately,
and most whites are marginalized.
They don't give a fuck about you.
For them to be talking about...
Jamal Lewis.
He just pardoned them.
For them to be talking about a sex trafficking,
and that lady started talking about
the state of the economy.
The Dow Jones, bro. Yeah.
And how great it's doing.
And then got mad at them for talking about.
What are we talking about?
We should be talking about this.
And y'all are talking about Epstein.
That's not what we're talking about, ma'am.
Ma'am.
What?
Actually,
this clip is a little long,
but I want to play a clip from a
from a gentleman that,
I'll just play it.
Yeah, come on.
You guys know who Pam Bondi is?
the United States Attorney General
it's the first time I saw her in action yesterday
I mean I knew who she was but I didn't know how she was
right
and she got questioning yesterday
about releasing the names of the traffic
the violated former children
whose innocence was currency for power
but not releasing the names of co-conspirators
while survivors sat behind her waiting for the truth
I mean these women these powerful women
he's giving you a brief update but once he finished
this update he won't get to
United.
Listen to him.
And show of moral courage that no one in this administration has attempted to match yet.
And he's sitting in the park with some trees if you had the birds.
Instead of answering questions, she attacked congressional members personally.
And then she turned to the stock market.
The Dow is over 50,000 points.
The S&P's nearing 7,000 NASDAQ is smashing records.
That's what we should be talking about.
It was a deflection so abrupt that felt like a confession.
members of Congress asked
and a lot of us I think
asked what does the stock market have to do with anything right
and as you saw
Bondi scoffed and mirrored the question
and then said are you kidding me
and people
I believe incorrectly called it a dodge
a non sequitur
I don't think it was I think it was a glimpse of the plainest truth
slipping through
a momentary removal
of the veil of decency
because in her calculus
and in the eyes of those who command her
the economy's triumph
outweighs the cries of the exploded
every single fucking time.
Hear me out.
Yeah, he made this correlation.
The stock market was born
in the same cradle
of empire that tracked
human beings as cargo.
As long as the numbers
climb, the moral
cost is background noise.
That's it.
And this is,
This is no accident of history.
It's the actual architecture of American descent.
You rose to power, refusing to see certain bodies as fully human.
Now, I mean, I know a lot of you guys know what the transatlantic slave trade is, but it rose to power.
It ignited in the 1500s, right?
And the companies that were responsible for scaling it into an intercontinental enterprise.
Still the biggest companies of that.
Became so vast, so profitable.
they had to do something that no other companies in human history had ever done.
They went public.
First companies ever do that.
The private company was literally, actually it was, and here's a crazy thing,
it was called the company because it was the biggest company in the world.
So people just called it the company.
Think about that.
And it was too profitable to remain private.
So the Dutch West Indian Company went public.
looking 1621 to fund its empire of extraction and kidnapping.
Like today, investors speculated on success.
Those who bought shares rooted for the company's victories, even though the victory
out of that time.
They teach at those streets.
Nobody watched us.
I didn't notice in dungeons.
Inhumanity was not a byproduct.
It was the cause.
It was the purpose.
It was the engine of the machines.
Profit required indifference to suffering.
And one third of people who were trapped were under the age of 15.
Commodified as labor, property, and yes, sex slaves.
Them birds don't have numbers.
And the sugar fields of Barbados, the life expectancy for an enslaved person was 25 years old.
Burmed out by years of relentless toiling and labor, starvation, and brutality.
And the system just demanded replacement.
Endless replacement.
Let's go.
Let's go. Let's keep moving.
keep moving. Don't keep them alive.
As a matter, just rape them and work them to death.
There's plenty of humans in Africa, or as they would say,
plenty of niggers in Africa that we can continue to do
this to and exploit the precious gifts of God's breath
instilled into their souls and usurp them for financial gain.
Humans reduced to fractions of profit shares.
Bro, it's jam.
Yeah.
And the crazy part about it is, I love to fish.
And that's the genius in the market.
He's almost done.
I think there's a different level of genius too.
Turning flesh with defungeable assets.
To be bought, divided,
traded,
worked to death, and raped.
And so now we move on
temporarily to child sex trafficking,
and it's the same machinery refined.
Epstein's network operated in the shadows
of that original American capitalistic bargain.
And Bondi's slip wasn't a slip.
I think it was the mask slipping off.
It's all about the bread.
The crazy of the market that made cries for justice, she's revealing the Faustian heart of rapacious capitalism.
It's rotten to the core.
Endless growth demanding endless sacrifice.
Oh, God.
Back then it was chains.
Now it's hidden rooms.
Then it was slave ships.
Now it's private jets.
And yet we live in the illusion that these are separate stories, one of wealth, one of horror, one of the past, one of
present and they're not they're not they're the same story told in different eras they're
entwined one sustaining the other since the first stocks funded the first slavers and today the same
indifference indoors trafficked women children and people of color the poor they remain
disposable at epstein's network was no aberration it was a content
temporary echo where elite power trades in silence in innocent bodies.
He's cooking.
No, he revealed that.
He's going.
It's a long clip, but I got to let it play.
He's cooked.
He's cooked.
He resolves the rod on which it is built.
Oh, God.
His thing is like shakes me.
Yo, that nigga kicking your ass right.
Get me the fuck out of here.
That's to face ourselves.
Not just our past.
Not just our present.
also our future
acknowledging how far we've come
by refusing to look down at those
the system was built to crush
has to stop
we have to name it
we have to name the connection
because if we keep celebrating the climb
while ignoring the backs
who bear it
we remain complicit
in the oldest American sin
they made us complicit we cannot heal
We cannot move forward.
Pass is not prologue when ignored.
His brother's name is McCad Brooks.
He won't be an actor.
Y'all know him, right?
I've seen him somewhere.
He's on the game.
He's in a talented player movie.
The next level to me is that the stock market
is now, the
onus is now even passed on to
us because we invest
in the stock market. People with good jobs have
401 Ks that benefit from the stock market
that he speaks of raising in profitability.
That's it.
So the billionaire
pass the buck onto the everyday citizen
who invests in this game
and benefits from this game.
That's fucking...
So you're unknowingly complicit.
Correct.
Unknowingly benefiting from
the entire game.
Correct.
It's crazy.
So it makes people not give a fuck
because they're earning potential.
My money is going on.
My money is going on it.
That's that crazy game, bro.
That's why when people had that debate
about capitalism, it's really like,
that's the part that people don't get.
It's like capitalism always
always works like somebody's getting fucked.
That's the only way it works. Somebody has to get fucked.
And this government was built. The way
this country is built, the government take care of us.
We fade the government and they hold us down.
You know what I mean? We're supposed to have free health care. That's not like
a fancy special thing. You pay taxes.
You're supposed to get health care. That's not supposed to go. That's why everybody
else around the world has it. Well, a lot of people around
the world has it. I think people forget
that. Even when they get on that high horse
of, pour yourself by your bootstraps
and work. That all may be
cool, but when you break your motherfucking leg,
your government's supposed to hold you down.
That's why you pay taxes.
That's the whole point.
And you got people like James Vanderbke, rest and peace,
who's got to public funding.
I ain't want to...
Full circles.
I ain't want to fuck us up and bring it down.
But imagine how much money Dawson's Creek made.
Right.
It was one of the biggest shows in the history of television.
He was the man on the show.
He was.
He was him.
He was him on the show and couldn't pay his fucking health care bill.
That's insanity, my nigga.
America.
Indicative of us.
Right.
And what he said about, yo, she said, yo, dog, all you should be really giving the fuck about is the money is really how they feel.
Yep.
And that be some of my points.
Yo, dog, the class's point is one that it just gets overlooked with the divide and conquer shit.
Like, my nigga, they hold in everybody.
They don't give a fuck about us.
They get a fuck once you get a certain threshold and get to a certain.
Let, come on, let that thing in.
You know what I'm saying?
Now you're cool.
Now we can kick it with you.
But other than that, fuck you.
You're an aunt on the ground.
collateral damage
totally understood
ignorance is bliss
yeah bro seriously
because this is fucking
depressing
that's why you block it out
that's the whole thing
that's why you don't watch it
I don't just up you all I wasn't looking at that
that's too much for me and I get it
you know what I mean because you're mental health
support and shit I'm somebody that can watch the news
and get bummed out to the point of tears you know what I mean
so I get that same but all that ignoring shit
consistently for that's irresponsible
like you especially as a nigga I mean you
You know they're going to come and slavery starts on the 10th.
If you're not keeping up with the first going on the one.
True, true.
Like, you have to know what's up.
And that's my point, too.
Like, yo, right now it's the Spanish.
Finn.
We next.
We're next.
We're next.
We're next.
They're going to come get you.
They're going to get you first.
And I'm, you know, just being honest.
I'm going to tell you.
That's fine.
I'm telling you.
They're going to have you.
No.
They're going to have you on that bus saying different phrases and shit to see if you
if you're really American because you look a little.
Guadaloo.
They told the nigga in Brooklyn,
he told the nigga suck his dick
about a hundred times.
They said,
oh yeah,
let him go.
He's from here.
Leave him below,
yo.
Now,
the shit is depressing.
It's scary.
It is.
U.S.
Steel.
All of those companies,
dog,
was built off of
what he talking about.
Yeah.
Shout out to McCoy Brooks
for that brilliant analysis.
Yeah,
that was really well put,
McCahn.
Did y'all want to talk about,
did y'all want to talk about
the rock and roll
hall of fame?
Oh,
you man.
Rock and roll whole of faith.
So Gene Simmons, the bassist from Kiss.
Some Kiss.
Said that rap music, hip hop does not belong in the rock and roll hall of fame.
Now, in fairness, he said other things don't too, like classical music and, you know, other things.
He said it's not rock and roll.
It shouldn't be in there.
And just be for some more context, Gene Simmons do this shit every couple years.
Like, he's been shitting on hip hop specifically.
Fuck, James Simmons.
for years.
He's still got enough slaps for all this.
He had, but, like, y'all was a right, my lady.
Y'all ain't that.
It's before this, when he would be talking down on hip hop, he never went, like, too racist with it.
It was just more hip-hop bass.
I feel like this.
This climate.
It gives right.
Exactly.
I feel like every time, every time this nigga office, the same people that used to pull up to the light and look straight and I look at you, they cut you off.
They, nigger.
You know what?
They get a little bold.
Right.
But he says on the interview at one point something about like, well, I'm not from the ghetto.
And it's like, to me, we know.
That was the real telltale.
Uh-huh.
The ghetto part.
That part when he said, I'm not from the ghetto.
Uh-huh.
Because his music opinion, because the analogy that he gave was saying, yo, if that's the case, led Zeppelin into the hip-hop hall of fame.
Right?
So you might have an argument.
When he said the ghetto piece, it was like, oh, okay, now you're throwing a certain stigma on hip-hop.
Relevant to his point.
Yes.
Irrelevant to his point.
But the real funny shit is, ask him where his mom's is from.
His moms is from the real, the real ghettos.
Like Nazi Germany, like.
Oh, shit.
They escaped.
Yeah, they escaped.
He was born in Hafeel in Israel.
The fuck are you?
To have your mother be from there and then say you not from the ghetto so probably is crazy.
I mean, let me read this quote.
Just for context, right?
Go ahead, go ahead.
He said, it's not my music.
I don't come from the ghetto.
It doesn't speak my language.
And as I said in print many times, hip hop does not belong in the rock.
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, nor does opera or symphony orchestras.
How come the New York Philharmonic doesn't get into the Rock and Hall of Fame?
Because it's called the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
And then one more thing, he said, he's a bright, he said Ice Cube and I had a back and forth
about this.
He's a bright guy and I respect what he's done.
He shot back that it's the spirit of rock and roll.
So Ice Cuban Grandmaster Flash and all these guys are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
I just want to know when Led Zeppler is going to be in the hip-hop Hall of Fame.
They might be.
When the Levy Breaks is putting you to the million.
This is the worst argument I've ever heard.
And look, that was my point.
I don't think his argument is bad until he starts to mention the ghetto shit and all of that other stuff.
Because to his point, you're the opera not in the Hall of Fame.
Right?
They're not going to go get these genres of music and put it in the Hall of Fame.
Cool.
When you say the ghetto shit, now you put in this stigma on hip-hop music and all hip-hop music is not some ghetto shit.
There's also been some plenty of rock music that came from the ghetto.
A lot of white people live in the ghetto, my name.
See, I feel like that's what's about.
Let's say, let's say, let's say,
we all agree to ghetto shit was out of pocket
right?
Let's assume he's the biggest racist in the world
that doesn't change the argument
Right if his argument is
None of these other genres
Right none of these other genres aren't rock and roll
Are in the rock and roll hall of fame
Why should hip hop be in the rock and roll?
That's what I'm wondering
What's the argument for being in?
I don't think that that's a bad argument from him
I think it's fair
True
My response to that would be
Well first off I'm biased
I believe that hip hop belongs
Anywhere you put it
Part of that
is because it encompasses all things.
So when you say that Outcast is in hip-hop,
the rock and roll Hall of Fame,
I believe that they should be.
And they have plenty of rock elements in their music.
When you talk about Chuck D and Public Enemy
being in there more the same,
run DMC more than same,
some of the hip-hop act,
you can't say that for some of the rock and roll acts.
That has nothing to do with hip-hop.
So why would it be in the hip-hop all-of-fame?
That would be my response.
I also don't have to concrete.
I get the point, but I wouldn't agree with that.
I'm sure there's some rock and roll acts in the Hall of Fame
or will be in the future that incorporated hip-hop shit into it.
So, like, what are we even talking about?
I hate that the comparison is like, oh, well, what about the Hip-Hop Hall of Fame?
As if, in my opinion, the Rock-Role Hall of Fame and the Hip-Bow Hall of Fame were on the same levels.
You know what I mean?
That's why I don't want to be in the rock and roll.
Fuck them.
Fuck their Hall of Fans.
Exactly.
But it's always like that with us.
But why is that their Hall of Fame when we invented Rock and Roald?
No, no, no, I don't mean that black people shouldn't be in the rock and roll hall of fame because we created it.
I'm talking about just hip hop.
I'm saying I want hip hop that black people created to be in the hip hop hall of fame and I want rock that people created to be in the rock and rock hall of fame.
I'm just saying.
This should be a music hall of fame.
Yeah.
They should just read the music hall of fame.
They should just put everything in there.
That's all I'm saying.
That's kind of his point though.
If this is just the rock and roll hall of fame, if it's the music hall of fame, then yeah, classical, philharmonic, all that should all.
If we allow it to hip hop, then we should be allowing it all.
I would love to hear more of that in his messaging
about just changing the name
with a Hall of Fame versus insulting hip hop
and saying,
again, like I said,
he's constantly his true thoughts came out.
Yeah, that's what it did.
To be clear, he said more.
He said that hip hop is just spoken word put to a beat.
Like, he dismissed hip hop as a genre.
It rides on the production.
Like he said he's over the years
have been taking his digs at hip hop.
But he's older, he's outdated and he's stupid
because at the end of the day,
even with the ghetto line, hip hop, I'm not from the ghetto.
was birthed in the ghetto.
Hip hop is fucking huge billion dollar business
in fucking Japan here
there, whatever.
That's, the hip hop is not a ghetto thing.
It just comes from the ghetto.
So I don't get the fucking thing.
Kiss just say you got the flash.
Dog, my thing.
They don't.
I like that argument.
They had to wear face paint.
There's some people who had his conversation.
I get all ugly.
All of them are very ugly men.
That was kind of that thing.
Fuck they, like,
I think this is what you was going.
Like, yo dog.
Fuck they shit.
shit.
Like, yo, have them
wanting to come to our shit.
Like, I don't want to be at their door
trying to get into their Hall of Fame
if they don't want us there.
Fuck y'all, we're going to create our own Hall of Fame.
I'm tired of us being like,
yo, I want to go to the white school.
I want to go to the white people.
Fuck they shit.
Make our shit elite
to where the white people want to come to our school.
Agreed.
But to Joe's point, I don't want to normalize the idea
that rock and roll is them.
It's not there.
True.
We are.
I'm sorry.
We are the birthers.
We're all of them.
I don't want to normalize the fact
that Kish has any say
what the fucking Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has to do with anything.
What the fuck are you?
You're not the board of Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Gene Simmons or Kiss.
I thought Kiss has slaps.
They got a couple.
They got a couple.
But they're not fucking one of them.
They're not the stones.
Exactly.
They are branding.
They are branded band.
Yeah, that's what they are.
You know the more from their early branders.
I don't want his opinions being reflection.
I have nothing to do with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
But his opinions are not a reflection of what the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has to say.
I'm curious how to die hard rock of all.
fans are Kiss fans. Like, I just, that's not,
that's not your top 10 bands. I love rock
and roll. I have never bought a kiss out.
Yeah, they might have a slap or two
the you recognize. They got a couple. They have a couple
slaps. We ain't going to do that.
All right. So we all agree. Fuck him.
Yes. Do we want to, do we care about Chuck D's response?
I mean, I mean, we don't know. Yeah. That's
I misstated. Shout to Chuck D.
By the way. Shout to Chuck D. Yeah.
You got them together real quick.
It is, but we can.
Is he streaming a lot.
You know, he's going to issue his point.
I mean, he's a rock guard.
you know but what he fails to realize is that it's the rock and roll ball of fame and everything else
other than rock when rock and roll splintered in the 60s is the role and soul music reggae
hip-hop which is rap music you know because hip-hop is a culture put that on 400 in bodies
sound story and style but music the the vocal on top of the music's already been determined so
that's the role that's the flow that's the soul
in it. Yeah, kids are rock guards, but they don't have a lot of roles to them.
I'm Blackboard in 1960. Being told that I don't belong doesn't even phase me.
I really relish the opportunity that I'm able to even be in the music business at all.
And thank God for hip-hop and rap music making it possible. If somebody would have told me in 12th grade in 1977,
that I would be making records of being in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame even or whatever.
Number one I would have been scratching my head like doing as what you know I had no idea.
You know, you know we're in a time with everybody saying everything at the same time
nobody's really listening so Jean is going to probably scream out that probably for the rest of his life
and you know he's entitled to his opinion and he's dealt in the you know into the music for so long
that his opinion is probably going to be stuck to him.
However, I've been, you know, a musicologist of note.
I'm not a plug guy, but I just recently put out this this week,
and then I taught a UCLA class for 10 weeks
on exactly the threads of what the culture is about,
how the music is related not just 100 years back
or 150 years back in documentation.
But Howard goes back, you know, maybe a thousand years.
So, um, scholarship matters.
You know, those who really, you know, were in the middle of the muck
creating something out of nothing, you got to consider that too.
If hip hop created something out of nothing as a culture with rap music,
that's no more different than, you know, somebody playing a chord on the side of a shack during slavery.
But then again, people,
calling slavery uh forced labor right now so we got we got to just watch the narratives and we just
got to understand that you know people are gonna they're gonna stay with their beliefs you know to the
day they die so don't try to change them all right we got yeah shot to chuck you you much more
fucking he's way he's way better than i am he's way better than i'm about that that there you go
racist and bigot segment.
The Ring
amidst backlash from that commercial that they put
out over the Super Bowl.
You've got rid of their little dog
finding program. Negro Catcher.
The Ring has ended its partnership with
Flock, a tech surveillance company that works
with police, days after Ring's Super Bowl
ad, boasting a feature to help find
missing dogs, spark controversy.
Following a comprehensive
review, we determined the planned
flock safety integration
would require significantly more time and resources than anticipated.
As a result, we have made the joint decision to cancel the planned integration.
Ring said in a February 12th statement,
the integration never launched,
so no ring customer videos were ever sent to Flock safety.
End quote.
In October 2025, the home security device company announced a partnership with Flock,
which uses a network of surveillance technology,
including license plate readers,
man dogs got cars
license plate readers and video detection
to help law enforcement
agencies so
your voice matters
your protest works sometimes
round of applause
round of applause for the ring
seemingly doing the right thing
I'm taking credit for that one not me but y'all like this was like
we wanted to make major outlets that spoke
out about this
yeah that's true
that was a mess
yeah wait take your credit for what
all they said is we
connecting to the fares no more.
We still got the service running.
The shit is still automatically on through all of your rings.
Like I'm telling people, yo, if you got a ring, go into the settings, it's opted in automatically.
Go into your settings and turn the shit off.
To say what?
Turn off the surveillance.
Turn off the watch party shit, that whole, that feature is still running on everybody's rings right now.
What they're saying is they had partnered up with that flock shit.
Yeah, that's all.
Don't fall for this bullshit that they're telling you.
flock by to find another engine.
No, they're going to change the name.
Or that.
We're not fucking with flock no more.
Now it's called frack.
I would urge people to then, if what ICE is saying is true,
then to not go in your ring settings and opt out,
I would urge you to find another carrier for your...
Unplug that shit.
For your videos.
There is other ones.
Yo, go hardwired.
Get your wired surveillance system with the little box
like we had back in the day,
the little hard drive shit.
Do your own wire shit.
Once you start clouting,
I hate to be the one to tell y'all,
they got you.
Once you start fucking with them clouds
and all of that,
you can access it from your phone.
Yeah, that sounds like it's good
and it helps you out.
But you ain't the only one
that can access it from your phone.
He's not lying.
Because they did that one.
That's everything.
And they could also shut them shit down.
Exactly.
They did that one of my houses got raided.
Yeah.
I had the service off.
That shit was on my phone
for like a week for free.
That's my tip call, Panned out.
I was like, oh, shit.
Like, yo, it was on my shit for like a week.
I didn't even, I ain't pay for it.
I was waiting for it.
He right.
Yeah, man.
Like, just, yo, the hardwired.
And there you have it, man.
Hey, come on, man.
Hey, what's that, Big Dog?
You know, that's the joint, man.
I'm ending our, I'm ending our races segment the right way.
Oh, bad.
A little rock and roll all night.
It won't play now.
Look at it.
Hate what that happened, right?
Oh, shit.
Share this off a little bit, man.
You're all looking down and out.
Pam Bondi got y'all tight in the face.
There you go, bars, you can jam.
Hey.
You should have them write the song.
That t-shed is just...
Stefan Diggs went to court.
He pledged not guilty.
Of course.
Who knows?
We'll see what's going on with that.
That's the end of my report.
I'm not a journalist.
There you go.
Does anyone else have anything
that is weighing on their hearts,
souls, spirits, minds,
bodies?
I think we did it.
Lunch.
We did it, man.
That shit still smell like some.
I'm only to be hungry.
Every time she comes,
but it do smell good.
That was a lot.
That was a birthday.
And it's her birthday.
And it's her birthday.
And it's her birthday.
It was ribs in here the other day, bro.
But lunchtime is for the people
that get.
got here on at the right time.
You've been here for minutes.
Oh,
I saw her hungry.
That is bullshit.
Oh, man.
All right, listen, I think I am done with you guys,
but because I have a heart,
and this is one of the more beautiful things
I've ever heard before I end,
I leave you with a word from James Vanderbke himself.
Define myself as an actor, right?
No.
Today's my birthday.
And it has been the hardest year of my life.
And I wanted to share something that I learned with y'all.
When I was younger, I used to define myself as an actor, which was never really all that fulfilling.
And then I became a husband.
And that was much better.
And then I became a father.
And that was the ultimate.
I could define myself then as a loving, capable, strong, supportive.
husband, father, provider, steward of the land that we're so lucky to live on.
And for a long time, that felt like a really good definition to the question, who am I?
What am I?
And then this year, I had to look my own mortality in the eye.
I had to come nose to nose with death.
And all of those definitions that I cared so deeply about were stripped for me.
I was away for treatment, so I could no longer be a husband that was helpful to my wife.
no longer be a father who could pick up his kids and put them to bed and be there for them.
I could not be a provider because that wasn't working.
I couldn't even be a steward of a land because at times I was too weak to prune all the trees
during the window that you're supposed to prune them.
And so I was faced with a question, if I am just a too skinny, weak guy alone in an apartment with cancer, what am I?
And I meditated and the answer came through, I am worthy of God's love,
simply because I exist.
And if I'm worthy of God's love, shouldn't I also be worthy of my own?
And the same is true for you.
And as I move through this healing portal toward recovery, I wanted to share that with you
because I think that revelation that came to me was doing no small parts, all the prayers
and the love that had been directed toward me.
So I offer that to you, however it sits in your conscience,
whoever it resonates, run with it. And if the word God trips you up, I certainly don't know.
I can't even know what God is or explain God. My efforts to connect to God are an ongoing
process that is a constant unfolding mystery to me. But if it's a trigger, it feels too religious,
you can take the word God out and your mantra can simply be, I am worthy of love because you are.
Thank you for the loving prayers, everyone. Have a blessed day.
Hey, yo dog.
I don't put that shit on no more, man.
I think it's really important to hear what people have to say,
especially while they're on their deathbed.
She got me a little teary.
No, I'm about to say for the people out there wondering,
I cried.
Is that my phone?
Yes.
Yes.
And you're a cry.
Oh, Instagram don't never stop playing shit.
Word.
They just keep that shit.
That video.
Rest in peace, James Vanderby.
Yeah.
Word.
Rest in peace.
Thoughts and prayers to your family.
Thank you for your service.
That was all.
Thank you for the word.
That was real.
Thank you for the word.
I appreciate it.
We needed that.
I did that.
My last time asking if anybody here has anything that they need to.
No, niggins.
All right.
Say less than.
We did it then.
Yo, this one?
The other joint used to like,
this one we're going to do.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That was your shit.
Yeah.
Yo, thank you all for listening.
Hopefully you enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it.
I enjoyed it much more
because it's my girl
Big Demona's birthday
Stop fucking play wild
Hey
Hey, juicy tonight
when my girls
celebrating
is what I want to hear
in the background
Juicy
You're not going to get that
Not in Delaware
Not that little girl
shit they're going to wear
Not at the Adi's in the hood
Yeah no
You know
Keep us in your prayers
Lord knows we need to be there
Until the next time
We bid you a do farewell.
Adios, Siva Durchy,
Asta, A'Vois.
So long, goodbye.
The night's gonna be.
So next time, man, y'all hold it down.
Last but certainly not least,
remember the baddies are insecure,
the stagnant women want to travel,
and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things.
Grab you with Tylenol, you might need it.
I know what DeMone are doing this weekend.
What y'all on this week?
What y'all on this weekend?
Just love, baby.
Valentine's Day.
Love family, man.
Y' love.
baby if I didn't tell you in these seven years oh girl girl wow yo you complete me girl
thank you thank you I'm so happy talk to me I'm so happy to be here with you I'm so happy
you're here with me thank you for completing me you are so important to my life baby
happy Valentine's day to all the couples out there happy Valentine's day if you're a couple
and you happen to have been fighting all week my heart goes out to you
as well hold it down if you would do don't say
nothing you might regret keep it cute
keep it cute you can still go out
you can still go out to dinner you can have the silent
dinner where you just not not talking
go ahead you know what she like
go ahead and order a favorite appetizing
you better still take out though
take out definitely take out don't think that just
because you're in the fight
oh yeah you still gotta go out
you better show up
happy Valentine's Day baby I love you
every Valentine's Day
and if you're out there at Arkansas
saw.
What a crackhead.
Why are the Philly people
from this podcast such crackheads?
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Jesus, you Philly crackheads.
Bah!
Anyway, this weekend, if you're in Westchester,
y'all will be out there selling
Popeyes.
Make sure you get one.
The chickens are a hot, hot item.
They go first.
I got my money
Hey
Yeah, she like on my go
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, remember to be without the JVP?
We'll fold that up right now.
You've never heard of Joe, bud?
