The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 904 | "The Couch of Few Words"

Episode Date: February 18, 2026

The JBP begins its latest episode with a discussion on preparing your kids for college and future jobs before turning to their weekend which included a trip to see New Edition & Boyz II Men (30:35) as well as Jill Scott (47:48). The cast then reacts to their thoughts on NBA All-Star Weekend (56:40), Netflix's 'America's Next Top Model' Documentary (1:14:40), and Marc Lamont Hill shares his thoughts on the passing of Reverend Jesse Jackson (1:35:20). Desus Nice announces a new youtube show (1:46:00), DJ Vlad's tweets cause quite the stir (1:57:54), and Lil Wayne fans respond to LaRussell's comments about the rapper (2:01:27). Also, Mike Tyson & Floyd Mayweather are set to fight in an exhibition match (2:34:00), Hitman Holla responds to the coverage of Geechi Gotti (2:40:50), and more. Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden 

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Enjoy the show. I'm sorry. I'm going to break it to my siblings soon. Let them know. We can stop. That college fund? Prepare for plan B. Let's get that plan B ready.

Yeah, all that money you save in college, you can splurge a little every month. Have dessert. Take a vacation. You will not need that money. You will not need it. He might get a grant. Scholarship. He'll get a grant.

State one. $50. I do $50. I'll take on kinds of grants for this thing. You teach you how to make license plates for free. Yeah, that's crazy. You're terrible. That's horrible.

Is that bad, though? Yes, nigger. When you, I'm not. It's a horrible realization. Is that bad when you know it? Not saying you're telling that person. Yes, you do know. When you know what, what are you talking about?

Yeah, yeah, go ahead. When you know what? When you know this one not going probably be as successful. Audience, they're talking about. Yeah, fix your words. I was the one that said it. When you know a child is, won't be a. success story.

Horrible. That's what they're talking about. No, they. Mark and ICE. Specify the days. Mark and ICE are talking about when you know your kid or a kid that just

isn't going to make it far in life, which I don't know how they got the I wasn't here. So I'm still warming up. I'm still warming up. Take it away. We were talking about the high school tracks because it's like, you know,

they got like the academic track for kids that and AP this and AP that. But like we were saying like Sometimes you need to bring the auto body shop back. You need to bring some things back. I agree with that. Yeah. But then you said in one school they got like,

they had cash registers. Yeah, they had cash registers. Because it was like, some of y'all are going to be retail. So we're going to, you know, we're going to prep you're early. I said a day high school, they had a shop right. What school is you went to? That's crazy. What school that was you went to?

That was Elizabeth. Okay. They said they. I wasn't in that class. But some of y'all weren't going to get there. They had, they had, they had, they had, paper bags and plastic bags? No.

No, he's talking about real. Like, clean up on aisle six. Yeah. Cash registers. They had a real auto body shop. Like, people were literally bringing their cars there to get their cars work. That's fine. They had a real metal, like, metal, teaching you metal working.

Not just a class, but a real shop. And they had the shop right for the motherfuckers who. That's crazy. We don't need to give you AP history or English. Because you're not going no further than this. The A&P. That's terrible, bro. Yeah, we don't need to give you a.

That's disrespectful. That's hard. If you call me and tell me my kid is going to go to auto shop, I might not like it. I might make some, you know what I may I ask some questions, but if you tell me my kid is going to be a greeter. No, but it's not saying that that's what your kid's going to be. We're just going to give you these tools

because these are most likely, these are the tools that's probably going to benefit you more. If the tools are folding, knowing the difference between linen and aisle two, I'll three. What comes next? You're not prepping my foot.

Fuck out of here. Prepping my kid for the produce. I'm going to be furious. You know, the difference between the cherry tomato. You can't get the fuck out of it. I'm good, bro. Is there a profession that y'all will be disappointed and if your kid came back, too?

Like, Mark is saying it should involve folding things. Like, if your daughter came to you and was like, pop, I want to eventually own a bunch of washing folds. But I'm starting with this one. It's not paying me much. It's in a bad part of town. it's going to get me to where I got to go. Would you be disappointed in that?

No, because you stated the end goal. Yeah, yeah, you said the end goal over. But if you just worked at the washing fold. How old are you? Call it 23. Oh, hell no. Wait. You're a bad part of town Washington Fold.

You're 23? Something went wrong. Yeah, yeah. I went wrong someone. I fucked up. Yeah, I ain't going to hold you. 18. Okay.

If she didn't go to college and she's 18 and she's working, yeah, I'm fine with it. I still might the fill I fucked up a little bit. I still would probably be trying to hook up. All right. Y'all daughters grow up and their nail techs. All right. I got.

I'm not. I'm about to tell you. I'm not about to sound like shorty. Yo, I love girl dads. You know, never mind. No, what was Shorty name? I'm not. We don't have to get, in school.

Never mind. What was Shorty name? Who? That you used to work with that state of the culture. I worked with a bunch of amazing women of state of culture. You mean, on the one that said the bus shit. Ebony Williams. Ebony K. Williams.

I mean, she got to be leaning to her owner in the nail text salon. that has to be a goal at some point. For me. I'm not sure where this is going. Ice, Mark. 18? No, he ain't say 18. No, I'm not going to 8.

No, no, no. You said 18 from the other one. No, you back 23 again now. You back 23? 25 even. It's, for me, it's all in relation to the investment. I've just invested too much in money for that to be the outgo. I just made my last college tuition payment for my youngest daughter last week.

No, I don't. Yeah, dude. You spent 90K a year to go to college. year on her college tuition, if she decides she was to be a nail tech, I'm going to be mad as shit. Isn't the wrong being in the nail tech? I just could have did that a lot cheaper. The amount of money that spent on college, I could have bought her a shop. Right.

So the money that you spent in your investment means and matters more than your child at any point figuring out what they want to do, love doing, and end up doing it. It would just affect how I feel about it. Ultimately, I would accept it, but I'd still be pissed because of how much money I put into

it. And I still think, I still think, I still think It depends on what your endgame is. So if you start out as a nail tech, that's cool. But in some point in the future, you want to own your own nail spa. Cool. You want to start hiring esthetians. You want to hire these people. Like, I'm not mad at that.

When we go get our nails done, they make hell of money. We, y'all two get your nails done? Yeah. Together. Mark, you've seen my nails be beautiful. No, no, no. I'm saying the place that he goes. I meant together.

No, the place he goes I used to go to. They packed. The spot I go to now, they make mad bread. So I wouldn't dissuade my. kid from wanting to go that route, but I just think that you shouldn't be just content with being a nail tech forever. That's my opinion. I'm good with any job, just dignity in all labor. You go to your bullshit. No, no, I'm just saying, but don't make me pay for you to do it. But nobody made you do it. All right, so wait, Mark.

Wait, who made you do that? She could have. Who made him do that? She told me she wanted to go to college? Yeah, that's 17. And then you switch up, you change, and then you realize I don't want to do this no more, but now I'm already invested in. I, that could happen. You're talking about college. You're not even talking about like paying just for private school up and told college. Don't forget the shit. Because that one, maybe I could kind of understand where you going, maybe. Department school.

You paid for college? What they fucking do? Joe, you're out trying to actually. Oh, please. Joe, that shit is expensive, my nigga. I know it is, but you, I guess the people that do it and I'll stay out of this because this is not my area. I guess the people to do it do it with expectation. Yeah.

You told me she wanted to be a lawyer. No, yeah. Or you just, we've been taught this, right? We all have been taught. And I think, I think the sentiment is now changing. But to get ahead in this world, there are certain things that you have to do. Yep. Right?

That's what we've been taught. So go to college, get yourself equipped to get a certain type of job that's going to sustain a future for you and your family. We've been taught that. Now we are on the influencer entrepreneurial thing, but there's still skills needed to do that. but if you spent talking my kids daycare is high as shit I know that shit is high

um if you and then when you start going to middle school high school some of these high schools are 30k you spent $30,000 a year to put your kid school from middle school to 12th grade and then they go to school for 90K a year for the next four to five years because a lot of these degrees not four year degrees no more day five so that's another 450 grand

and then they come to you and say dad, I learned that I want to be an MC. I'm actually okay with this. I'm not okay with that. I'm not, I'm not okay with that. I think that's slightly different. I'm not okay with that. I'm just saying you go to college.

Y'all always preach to me, and again, I'm shutting up on this college tip. This is not my bag, this college stuff. But y'all always preach to me about the networking and getting out the house for the first time. I love brothers in college. I've seen them in my dad. they room in my dad's house their whole life.

Now they're in college. They're meeting kids from other places, meeting girls with different goals. Like, y'all always taught me that that experience... It's the most valuable part of it. It's part of it. If you go do that, and now for the first time,

a lot of kids are learning themselves and finding themselves outside of the academic portion of this, and you learn what you now enjoy doing, maybe want to do, maybe got a friend or a frat brother that I've done preached being a salesman is the way to go. I'm made two on a grade. I know how did you hear some shit when you were getting here?

And you give a shot because you got time on your side. Like, I wouldn't expect to go to my parents and be met with disappointment when I learn what I truly want to do. Now, again, that's interesting. Again, I never told my mom that I want to be a professional rapper. So, or my dad. So, I mean, the disappointment comes from whatever you're telling them, yo, this. is what I want to do, realistically is it sustainable.

That's where the disappointment comes up. Because like even, even you said the MC example, I'm going to be disappointed at that because the odds are not really in your favor. I think that's slightly different. I think in emceeing or in any type of artistic endeavor, having a college backup plan is good, A, for that,

and B, you'll learn so much in college from like a worldly perspective that will help you relate or translate. It'll make you a better art. Even if you're a business major and now you want to be an MC, the way you go take these meetings at the label and all the other shit may be a little different. I think it's different from something

that's super hyper localized like a nail tech where you could have done that, you know what I'm saying, without necessarily leaving. You don't need all the connections and community building that happens at college and all that kind of shit. And maybe not those connections. Honestly, you might be better.

If I'm going to be a nail tech in Newark, I'm just going to say Newark. It's better for you to go to Rutgers, Newark, than Harvard. If you want to build connections, And Bill, this is what I'm saying? Like, it's about what you're doing with those connections. I don't know if I would communicate the disappointment, though, to my kid.

I would be disappointed, but I would encourage them. But deep down, yeah, I'd be a little salty. Like, I got a, I'll give you an example. I got a family member who they went through nursing school. And towards the end decided, I don't want to do this. And their parents paid to put them through nursing school. Now I just want to get a regular job. I realize this late in the game that I don't do.

As a parent, you're disobeyed. I'm disappointed as fuck. Yeah. I feel like as a parent, there's just certain L's you got to take as a parent. Yeah. You could still be disappointed in taking the L, though. But I understand, Mark, now.

You wouldn't say I'm disappointed. You would go to the adult room and close the door. And privately soak. You scream into the bottom of the bottle. Okay. I'm with that. I'm with privately soaking over. Yeah, that's what we're talking about.

Some shit my kid did. You still got to support your kid. We still talking from a position of privilege. Mark was privileged enough to be able to spend $90,000 a year on his kids' education. Now, imagine if you took out student loans for that money as a parent. Now, you got a half a billion dollars in debt. I mean, half a million dollars in debt now for your kids' education and they don't want to do that shit.

You still got to pay these motherfuckers back $450,000. With interest. With interest. You better go flip some birds or something. You got to get my bread back sign. But anyway. Why? No, no, that's what it comes full circle to looking at the picture and say,

maybe the folding glass. That's what I'm saying. Ain't nothing wrong with folding some shit up or making a champ burger checkers. Everything is all right. Go ahead. You got to see the potential early. My baby makes the best champ burger there is. You got to see the potential early.

Like, you know what? You're going to be a hide over there in checkers. You know what I am. This is what I'm thinking of one of my family members right now. I might sit in my app. Action sheet. I don't know if you can handle extra cheese Just get the burglary on the grill

Some of that is unfair Because some of you parents out there is losers And think you didn't pass down your loser Lusor's shame That is a fast sense of Like what the fuck you expect your kid to do Nigger look at you ain't doing shit What's you doing?

That's bad? Yes All right so I got a song cute up Thank you. I got a song cut up Thank you bro Parents just be expecting the best from their kids Oh you expect them to do better than you?

But sometimes that'd be irrational. Why? That's your goal. Yes. That's every parent's goal. Hopefully. Should be. Well, we're talking about good parents.

I think even bad parents don't, they recognize they're in a fucked up circumstance and they don't want their kids to be in the same circumstance. You're wrong. You don't watch evil lives here. It's not all parents. What is that?

I'm telling you, buddy. It's not all parents. Evil lives here. Very scary people. You don't. I can tell. Just by what you're saying. These parents killing the shit out they kids.

Yeah, this is about it. And vice versa. And kids. They ought to be heeded. I'll argue with my girl about so much that I'll tell you about it. But one of them was family, family, they're happy already. Husband, wife, and their 10-year-old daughter. Adops a kid at 16 years old.

Pause. I think I'm with you. Pause. All right. Pause. First three minutes let it show. Excuse me? Why are we adopting a 16 year old?

Get a dog. No, get a 6 year old. Get a 4 year old. Somebody that's a 12 year old. And this family wanted to pick a kid help him out of harm who said you a nigger at 16. No. You're done.

And this was a girl. A 16 year old girl. So they talk into the day. Keep showing the daughter. Let me speak this up. Keep talking to the 10 year old who's now an adult. who's saying this girl was strange from the start. So now the whole house is learning in real time that dad is a pedophile.

Oh, fuck. Dad done started dating the 16-year-old that they adopted. And now she's shading the mom because, bitch, you coming in between me and my man and the dad. And don't you know this girl in the middle of the night? Polk mom up. A hundred and seventy-eight times. God, damn. with both of the other kids in the house

because they had another younger kid. Yeah, that's different. Adopted. Totally predictable. Yeah. When I hear nothing shocked me about that story. We already knew where it was gone when you said 16. I didn't know that should not be predictable for your husband to fall in love with the 16 year old adopted daughter.

That is sick. There's some sick people in the world. Yeah. Yeah. I think. Anyway. Anyway. Sorry about that you got.

I don't know how we got it. Hey, I want the best for y'all, y'all's kids. I hope they grow up to not be nail techs. Unless that's what they love to. But I get that few jobs. I go to the nail tech. But if they're great at it, I'll go get your kids a little $24 or some shit. It ain't going to be 24.

You better tip good too. I tip good. That shit ain't 24. My kid come back and be like, Joe left me $4. I'm going to be mad at you. No, no, I take good. I ain't going to do that to y'all's kids. About eight.

I mean, no, they make money. Oh, yeah. You got on it, though. My girl told me we was taking Valentine's Day off. What that mean? We fell for it. As we came to a pact that we were going to take Valentine's Day off. This is the oldest trick-in-the-books.

No celebration, no nothing, just treating it like a regular Saturday. Joe. Joe Button. I fell in love even more. Like, oh, that's dope. She filled me. Like, she understands. You did not fall for that.

What was here to fall for about taking off? I ain't drop out that early. I know what take off mean. Obviously, you don't. In a relationship. There's levels to take off. Don't you know? Ever since you've been talking about,

I ain't get her no flowers. Yeah. Yeah. So now we're just fighting about what take off means. Yeah, get some flowers. It means she off you want. No, it means we ain't doing all of the extra extra, extra above and beyond wild through the moon ship.

But we got to get some regular flowers. Yeah. You got a little candy, a little card. The problem is, when that moment happens, like y'all are making sense the same way she did, I say what my brain is thinking. Oh, shit. Sound like Corey.

That's never a good thing. I'm what you want to. I should have said that, right? I always go get these elaborate, expensive-ass bundles of nine trillion flowers. They die. You get on a plane. I carry them to the trash. And that'd be that.

Yeah. Take off me. I don't have to do it. That's not what take. Is that all, bro? She said offset. She said offset. He's making to take off.

I get it. Which led to the next discrepancy of kicking somebody out versus asking them to leave. Oh my God. You failed this weekend. What's the difference? You had it right there. It's definitely a difference. Don't worry.

I got a song queued up. I hope you do. It's a different. Please bring that down for it. Yo, could you leave my house, please? That's asking them to leave. Get the fuck out. It's kicking them out.

Asking to leave versus kicking someone out is not the same. And too many chicks on Instagram be trying to get that off. I'd see it when they start, oh, this they could kick me out. And then the girls start rally. How did you jam kick you out? Well, sometimes it ain't a kickout. Sometimes I'm asking you to just leave. Sometimes it is just time to go.

Hey, I got your flight book. Bad time to fight. We're not really seeing eye to eye. Would you mind leaving? It only become a kickout when they say no. Don't leave. So it's not the same. But anyway, I got a beautiful song queued up.

There we go. Yeah, let's see here. Let's get some music, please. Yeah. Shout to all the ladies out there. Shout to all the happy couples out there. Shout to our ladies. Hey.

Hey, hey, baby. Love you, baby. You need some mercy. You need this. No, we're doing great, but got to understand what some terms made. Hey. Mic check, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2 so happy to be here. All things and what they used to be.

Oh, now. Where did all the blue skies for... Shout to wherever you might be listening from, always for the ladies, of course. Anytime I'm in the building, it's big jersey, of course. I'm right at home. Oh, mercy, mercy, mercy. Everybody on the West Coast? Hey!

All they're what they used to be lost. Whole New York City, Carolina's it landing on that. All the way of the ocean, upon high seas, fish full of mercury. No, Javan. Rest in peace, Jesse Jackson. Robert Duvall. All things ain't what they used to be lost.

Shout to the Patronies. Radiation. Shout all the subgroups out there. Just out animals and birds who live near lava. Big old. Oh, mercy, mercy, name, all things and what they do. What about this crowd is, and how much more the new, and so can't you stand,

Daddy. Shout all the parents out there. Rest of peace, Marvin. Got a great show lined up for you. What episode? What episode is this and this a daddy? You're icy, fish, ooh.

What episode is this? 904. Welcome to episode 904 of the, The Joe Button podcast. I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, extremely happy to be here. Host Joe Button. This broadcast is brought to you by, fuel, by power by prize. Picks, prize, big, gang.

Yeah. And I'm here with some really amazing people to my right. Shout to our boy, Queens, Flip, who is at Carnival. Having a blast. Having a whole in the world. This thing is living. Yeah, he's having a good time out there. Shout out the flip here with us in spirit.

To my right, our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill. How you doing, man? Hanging in there, man. Rough week. Good, good, good. Everything right? Yeah, my son's sick. You've been in the hospital and just didn't rip it and running.

It was traveling all weekend, but Sunday kicked my ass. Got you. Flew to Arkansas and back and been in the hospital. But, you know, it was like. Glad to have you back. Glad to be here. Strong up. Safe.

Strong. Anytime it's an airport and Mark's story, he don't go well. That is a fact. He ain't noticed in the size. Oh man Next to him Man our good brother Mr. Thousand Doors

and up Big Isher in the building Is how you feeling man I'm well You so Real good Real good man See you're outside

Yeah we were outside this weekend Oh yeah yeah yeah We'll talk about I made a couple of A couple of quick little stops What did you do Mr. Prodigy Nothing at all

Stayed in the house In the house the whole time Okay Yeah Mark don't start your shit I ain't start nothing, man. You know what they say when we're on the same couch? It's a problem.

Yeah. Y'all too? But, I mean... That prodigy shit was. I mean, I understand the mistake he'd be making, but it's still always funny. What's the mistake? He puts... He puts the...

The punch in the front... And then doesn't explain it properly. He just continues with the story. as if it's understood. Right. Rather than at the end, after he's properly been able to explain whatever the fuck he is trying to say,

and then that. That makes sense. There's a lot of the fans that have been wondering about your child prodigy statement has been going on the internet. I know you don't read it. That's what I'm telling you.

They mentioned it. And so... They've been having a blast. They've been having... I don't... It ain't us, buddy. It ain't us. I didn't.

say a word. I ain't say nothing. You never finished a thought, though. What were you a prodigious in? I was academically inclined as a kid. I skipped first grade. They wanted to skip me from second grade. My mother said, no. I could have got, I could have been damn near

10 years old in high school. 11 years old in high school. Yeah. I'm your real friend, but I know what you be trying to say. I don't get a fuck what they say. I'm friends with you in real man. I just be curious. I always thought you was a since we met. You was havoc?

Yeah. It's cool. That's a pretty good one. You all with you. Next to itch. Come on, man. The freezes of them all big ice is in the building.

How you doing, Fris? I'm great. I'm great. Good, good. I'm glad to hear that, man. I loved your IG, your Valentine's Day IG photo, man. It was real fly.

Thank you. Yeah. Appreciate it. Beautiful. Me too. Okay. Thank you. Everybody's seen it but me?

I didn't see it. Why are you looking at me? I just said, thank you. Shown to my baby What are he doing? Real good pictures She's a little icy His lady looked wonderful

They were decked out Ice kept his face Kind of away from the camera a little bit Yeah he had the big chain on Yeah the big chain Oh y'all He was wondering about that But I was chilling

Big chain, big watch And all my splendor Yeah Sometimes you got a son Just say it This is cool Yeah This is a couch of such few words

What do you say It's not to say, man. I didn't see it. So could you explain to me what they're saying? They were showing the fuck out. That's what it was. We went out. We had a good time.

They looked great. We went out. You put all the jewels on? All them. All of them. We went out. Namely, the love of his life. Exactly.

That was the gym. But he had his truth. But there was some other jails. We went out. Y'all did it right. We did a nice dinner. Then went and got up with our peoples and we went to the spot. Yeah.

Are you bashful? You're saying? Why? Why? Like, why? Am I? That's it. We just, we, we.

But talk your shit, though, there's no shit to talk, bro. Your shoulders is sinking in? Come on, I don't stunt. You threw all the jewelry on and stepped out with your queen. What we talked? What we doing?

Valentine's said. We went out. Went to the spot. We ain't waiting no line. What were talking about that? So why are you not saying what happened, man? Because I don't do that. We had a good time, bro.

We want me to come in here, pop shit. I called the owner to the spot to spot. Yeah. He cleared this shit for us. It was Valentine's Day packed. He was like, y'all accommodate y'all. Then my man over here, we took care of anything. We could.

We went and they're like superstars. That's what I'm looking for. That's what I'm looking for. Because the only pick I saw, and then I'm introducing parks, was the boxer briefs that were floating around. Huh? Yeah. Huh?

She got me some boxer briefs with her face on it. No, not one face. No, her face all over. All over the boxers. I wanted the clown, but me. and freeze be down. So, I mean, I'm wearing some shit. I ain't wear them.

I ain't wear them. Why? You're going to wear him. You're going to wear. You're probably got them on right now. Now, you're going to wear them. You are going to wear them. You don't think you're not going to wear them, do you?

You don't think. I'm going to. Here we go. As you know. No, I'm for sure. I'm going to wear them if my girl got me to fucking some dofy shit. You know your girl's going to do some goofy shit. Of course. She do all that shit.

I love it, though. But yeah. We had to. great time though great great valentine's day how wonderful you want to say something oh go ahead, rock out I don't know I love love

That's head-ass shit Like we do head-ass shit That's what Valentine's Day is No days off man Yeah we do we do all that head-ass shit I love it I know we have a Oh my wrist finest parks is here

What's Bobbin? We have a board It's a lot to talk about today There's a lot to talk about On my board that didn't make it. Your personal board? On my board that I had to erase.

Easter was on there. Okay. I got talked out of it, so I'm not doing it. But I'd be... I don't even want to ask. I don't think I want to ask. What are y'all doing this Easter? I didn't know that that was...

You don't do things on Easter? No, we don't do that anymore. Don't get dressed up. Don't do nothing on Easter. That wearing your lavender suit and going out. What? Some pastels on and shit. Might take the kids to that.

I mean, we got a small kid, so you got to do something with the East eggs and all that. I'm not a fan of that. I'm not a fan of that. What do you got to do? They like the East Egg hunt shit, so I might take them in the other. Chalk good, buddy. That's the first time you give him red wine to some shit, right? Yeah, what?

Wait. I told you I erased it. Listen, Po is here, Corey is here, Erickson is here, Tanner and Savan are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. We couldn't do this without your participation. Where do we begin? We had a fun little weekend.

We were outside. It's on a new edition, Tony Braxton and Boysomen at Prudential on Friday. Yes, yes, we did. Thanks to Joe. He got us a nice little sweet, the sweet sweet sweet. decked out with all the goodies. Now, Parks and Amani and Parks' beautiful wife and Nat and Rachel were there at the suite when I walked in. Yeah, we got there first.

So the rest of my joke don't really apply to them. But boy, did I feel so bad. When you book these like group meetups, like, I don't be the best at delivering all the information. It was some parking passes, I forgot to say. motherfucker. I asked about it. The parking was shit. That's when I went and looked.

I actually got a good smile. We got a few parking passes. Yeah. I was kissing. Oh, wow. 50 it is. And then it was the number there that was like, yo, would you get up here?

Yo, hit me. So we're going to take care of it. So by the time I walked up and hopped out of where ever I was supposed to be, the newer cops was out there. They must have been Joe Button fans. Boy, did they clear the street for me. brought me right to the contact guy,

skipped in line, bump some fat girl in line, move. Because it'd be the fat girl that's mad. Did you skip in everybody? You heard me say, excuse me 50 times, right? Move in business.

Oh, but then I felt so bad because anybody else was like, yeah, it wasn't it? It was bad. My poor mom was in line. People were telling me. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.

I was wondering why they got there so late. Damn, yeah, it was hard. That's crazy. Well, no, I'm joking around, but we had a great time, sweet full of food. Tony Braxton, new edition, and Boys to Men did the whole Kendrick Cizzer

in and out interchangeable. There's no opening act thing. So that was great. Sean Stockman called me the next day for my thoughts on it, because he was going to listen to the pod, so he didn't want to hear nothing. He's getting in front of it.

Let me head down. Let me hear it. Let me hear. I didn't hear nothing slick. So I told him I really enjoyed the show and I did really enjoy it. It was good from what I could hear. The show. When the mics were on, it was great.

It was great. That may have only been a third of the time, but. Yeah. There was some sound issues with the microphone. With the microphones. Rough. Like, there's a lot of, the TV track was definitely TV tracking early on. And they eventually tried to get it fixed at some point through the show.

So it did get better. But, not be clear. Tony Braxton got her shit right before she stepped on that stage again. Yeah. Tony Braxton was not playing with that sound engine. You know it's mic issues because too many of these people you already know can sing. Yes. You know Tony Braxton is not trying to do no TV track.

One yay, Allum Boys to Midnick's to sing. Ricky Bell could sing. Ralph Tresman want to sing. Johnny Gill want to sing. For sure. And did. Johnny got fixed the microphone, please. So the singers can sing.

Especially on Candy Rain. And it's like The biggest fuck got all of it But like the super duper smash is When the mic is dropping out It's like Candy girl Or candy girl

My bad My bad I'm like wait Wait Yeah no it was I thought it was where I was Because I wasn't up in the street I thought it was just

I was in a bad location I would actually Went to the suite To hear it better And then we later found out He was in front row right Yeah So you know sometimes

When you're right Yeah because I'm like a Like a true stand Yeah Like look cool man Like you all that I'm not seen your

Instagram pose. Oh, Bobby Brown. You did it. You took my gold girl. You're such a fucking dwee. Yes. Yes. That's what he put.

I saw his story. It ain't even no boy. Because it didn't happen. Wait, you lying? I said, damn it, Bobby, you took my girl? That's what I wrote up my story. No. You didn't say that.

Because that's your wife. Right. Well, please. Well, please. Yeah, no, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, good. It's just the audio. You just couldn't. I couldn't hear it. The bikes were dropping up. A lot. A lot. And you could see them getting frustrated

on stage. I thought Wanda was going to kill somebody. Yes. And he deserved to. Oh yeah. You could tell, see, we did show before. You could tell who's about to die and who's screaming on who and what that backstage looked like. At some point, the stage was having a trouble with the elevators that was bringing them up and down.

So at one point, one niggas got stuck. Somebody got stuck in there. Yeah, that's what Chris Brown got stuck in the air. Yeah. Yeah, but Chris Brown is young enough and agile enough. Hang in the air for 20 minutes. Yeah, he can escape. And still sing and shit and all the word.

Bid. Bobby would just die. Bibb on the other hand. It's 60. See, and also that's the thing too, right? I was young. Like, I bought Boys to Men Motown, Philly album when I bought Mariah Carey Vision to Love album.

I got my first boom box. I might have been 11, 12, 10, somewhere around you. Yeah, 10. And New Edition found them. I knew Boys to Men was the New Edition song. So I just always look at New Edition as so much older than Boys to Men until this night. Yeah.

The show. Well, actually, they are. No? No. They only about five years apart, I think. No. Five years be a lot. They just.

They just. They try to say it nice. This, what I'm saying is this was the first night I googled how old are these motherfuckers? We were doing the same shit. How old his new

addition? And I got to tell you. Yeah, nigga. He chased the name. They shouldn't put new in nothing. No, none. No additions.

The additions. Those brothers, not all of them, but Bobby, Biv, DeVoe even had this mal-nourished look about them. And then the dance steps, it was all the dance steps from. Motown. From, yes. But back when you can do it. But no, no, these steps was made for a 60-year-old. They've Motown steps.

They made those steps look old. Yeah, a couple of them. I googled the shit out of how old these brothers was. The youngest one is 57. Yeah. The boys the men is 55 and 54. Yeah. They started young.

They were moving. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No addition started so much earlier than boys the men.

It's like the Jay Z. We might have a different because they came out. And then Bobby Brown half the night was giving everybody his. ass to kiss. He still think that he'd old Bobby. He still think that he's my prerogative Bobby. So at one point he looked at the crowd and said, y'all want to see some dance moves? Now mind you, I've been watching him all night. He ain't bustin' out of mood. So the audience don't fell for this. They scream, yeah, go crazy Bobby. That thing said, Google me. I love that nigga man.

I do I do I do it. I do have to say Bobby Brown sounded really really good considering the fact that he was never like the most fucking amazing vocalist. Like he sounded good. His voice haven't changed. Yeah. Yeah. Bobby Brown, a lot of them said he remind me of me when I used to go to the club with a group

and just walk away. He walked away a lot. I used to go to the club with a group of like four to seven people and whenever they got situated I just got away from them. I didn't tell him where I was going. I was going to do.

That's what Bobby did all night long. Facts. A couple times that he was catching his breath on the side. Yeah, facts. Like a heart. Like when we played basketball? Yes. No, the whole show was a little bit like us played basketball.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I ain't go on you, man. You're all fucking. No, it was one point where boys to men came out at the tail end of whatever new addition set was. And boys the men came to the front because it was like a three-stage thing.

And they said, all right, y'all. If it's all right with y'all, new edition is going to stay on with us a little bit. Oh, shit. And sing these backgrounds. The crowd went crazy. Ah!

Yeah. I was like, oh, shit. Nigger. 45 seconds later. I just once a man. New edition walk. The fuck up. Yeah, this show was so great.

It was a really good show. It was a great. It was all jokes aside. It was so many hits. And because unlike the, you know like the Kendrick Scissors show where like if you're not a fan of one, it was like a dramatic change.

This was so many iterations because it would be like Johnny Gil would do some solo set. Then you might have a BBD thing. Then you have Tony Brax and then you have all into addition. Then you might have. You know what I got it.

Got it. So every, it was all these different like pieces that all sounded good. Yeah, they were great. They would have sounded good had the mics been turned on. If the mics were working. Yeah.

And between all of the renditions, there ain't nothing but hits. Nothing but hits. It's two hours of hits straight. And they're lucky it was. I'll tell you that much. If a song came on and this crowd didn't know. And we just had to depend on the mics. I'm sure the crowd was singing all the songs.

Oh, for sure. You had to. You know what you heard. I was in heaven in there. Ralph did do what I got to do. Ralph Baudy. Ralph Bideon. And John Dill Biddy.

Johnny Gild. body. Jenny Gil sang his face off. The whole voice of men bodied, obviously. He totally bodied, obviously. Ricky Bell went crazy, too. Yeah, he did. There were parts of the night

where I couldn't tell who the best singer was. I saw Ricky clips. Because Ricky Bell sounded crazy. I saw some clips. Boys to men sounds crazy. Ralph sounded good.

Johnny, at some point, walked into the state. Johnny, I feel like was buying them time. Johnny was doing the loss. Oh, I might have been there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the walking adlet. I don't feel like that was a part of the show.

I think there was chaos backstage. and Johnny said, yo, I'm gonna get, he walked in the crowd and just did two to three minutes of high notes and if he would have had some cherries

he would have been on some usher shit. Facts. Like that's how he was looking out there. And Johnny looked good too. He did. Also, though, newer couch. Couch a few words.

No, I ain't got no problems. Then freeze. It was just funny. Yo, I'm gonna break this couch. Watch up. I'm telling y'all, this iteration of y'all is getting broken up. I know. You do know?

I peeped. No, I peeped. It's 100% coming. I peeped. Okay. I already see the play. Yeah, because y'all two together, boys. I've seen the play.

So you're not going to say what y'all laughing at about Johnny Gill. Y'all think he was going to put the cherries in. Come on. I'm a walk. I don't know where he was putting the cherries at because I walked to it. I don't. I want to think of my name. He had on that earring.

He had on that earring. It was a. Very specific. And his biker's... He was in a front row. And his leather. And his leather biker set up. I ain't saying that.

He sounded great, man. What you're trying to say? Yeah, what you're trying to say? I just said mad words. I just said mad words. I'm not sure. He said word salad. What you was trying to get at?

I said enough for the audience to underdig what I'm saying. I didn't do what you're going to do. Sometimes I was understood. Ain't got to be said. Nothing. Don't get me. Don't get me. The fuck, I.

Anyway, shout to Johnny Gil. He sounded great. Everybody was great. I am going to make that show at the Barclays. I would like to see you to get a better side. I'm going to the Barclays. I'm going to the Barclays. I told you about Prudential, but I can't say nothing because they showed me an amazing night.

Yeah. Food was good. And I'm going to be lit, though. I don't think it's a Prudential thing, you know. That's why I'd be needing my girl, too. She wasn't here when I had to pick the food for the sweet. You just got everything. Everything.

Everything. Everything. Everything. That's what that's what. Everything. No. No, we ain't that shit.

I had like four chips and the whole sandwich and got it away. I got everything. Steaks. Sushies, pastramis. Once I saw the, there was hot dogs next to the sushi.

Hot dogs. Fucking. What else? Some weird steak sandwiches. It was a lot of shit up there. It was mad food up there. We didn't eat shit. It was good for what I ate.

It was too much. My little bite of my sandwich I took was good. They tell me a good time. That sweet life ain't bad. Then we would say, see Jill on Saturday. And then Saturday night, we did go see Jill Scott.

How was that? What? That shit was like the fucking warmest hug you ever felt in your life on Valentine's Day. Yeah. Yeah. She bodied it. She's so good. She killed her.

Oh, yeah. She would have meowed your heart out. Oh, yeah. You'd been up there purring meow. Loving your face against shit. Oh, man. Oh, so many meows. Absolutely beautiful show.

It was the six of the three of us with our significant others. So a nice little tape. It was jam-packed. It were of people that, like, stand-by section outside. You all, you know. It ain't happened. Yeah, good luck. Good luck to that.

So, that whole area is dirty. That's a fact. I don't go. I ain't been over there since I was getting my fake ID or village underground. Like, when we was over there, that's when we would walk places, remember? Yeah. I don't know where is that. That's when we was.

The West Third. The Village. West Third. That's when we were just, yo. That's prime. You look at your friend and be like, yo, you want to hop on a train and hit West Forth? Yeah. Yeah.

Y'all, I do. I do want to do that. And to be fair, the city looks absolutely fucking disgusting now because that's no shit. So it's bad. But it's dirty in general, but it's extra dirty right now. But we got $1.5 billion in funding. So that'll help soon. We did.

Yeah. I wouldn't try to be funny. I didn't say nothing. He do need to get that snow up, though. Yeah. Word. I know that's our man But it's fucked up

It's fucked up It's been two months Yeah He's a get him out It's 50 outside Yeah Yeah yeah yeah And when the dirt be on the snow

That shit looks And they couldn't pick up garbage for mad long Because it's too much snow So there's bad garbage all up in the snow Like it's bad It's bad Then on the news they sandwiched that story Between

New York ban and glue traps for the rats so right after they show the dirty snow they show you all the mice and the rats just creeping around you gotta stop watching the news my It's too much in the table Huh? Is it inhumane? Is that the argument?

I think it was on mute You think I turned it up for that one? No it's on mute but it says New York City banned the glue traps I don't know why I'm sure it's some of human health concern Wait wait wait wait Hold on I'm gonna take the glue over the mises

I mean, y'all have mice in the crib growing up, right? But I'm saying, as opposed to the trap that. You don't have one to get on that trap? No, the most humane way to kill a mouse is on a mouse trap. Like a snap trap. Or get a cat. That shit don't be working. Man, I had a cat.

No, I can't. No, I'm not going to do that much. Them nor grats are beat the dog shit on cats. I've seen them niggas take the cat fool. They're going to go. They're not serious. Why don't you stop getting rescue cats and go pick a cat like a man? Now, the rescue cats is what you want.

They got some shit with them. I wish Raven would have been around Nog rats would have been doing Rats would have jumped the shit out of Raven punk ass See you misrepresenting Raven again on this big national broadcast You know Raven's body So we don't even have to go

Y'all know Raven bodies So we don't have to do that ain't going to fight back Stop it ish Stop itish You know Bairn might not a one But Raven would have fought Nigger Raven Ford skunks What are you talking about?

Scumks don't want no problems He's clifling him, man Raven Ford Possoms My dead cat Don't play with Raven Recepiece, Raven. You know about Raven. You seen Raven make it home

from Route 4 when we lost the, nigga. Stop playing with my cat. I was moving from Edgewater to Englewood. Had the cat in the U-Haul. Some halfway through River Road, Raven jumped out, jumped out the window. Boom. Booked it.

I was so sad, but mad people are following, so it's nothing we can do. And niggas said, don't worry. Just go back there in a couple days. Raven go find his way. Find a way on. And sure enough, that's what happened. And he know these stories about Raven

So I don't know why you're playing. But anyway, what are we talking about? Something important. Oh, the Joe show. The Joe show. Oh, so it's so dirty over there. So I pulled up like a G I mean black SUV

All the dirty fucking hipster kids outside trying to peak move, nigga, get out of here. So hit one of these niggas. We pull up, hop out, line wrapped around the corner. I walk right to the front as if I'm performing. And they said, we got you, man.

Come right in. I said, all right, I'm going to go get my lady. I went and got my lady. Came back to the door. They said, not letting anybody in. Huh?

I said, nigga. That's that shit. So now I'm staying here. That's why you got to be careful where you got an ego. And now I'm just staying here looking stupid. Me, Parks,

fucking rim, shot a. But then the door slide open enough. You do the real, nigger. You know somebody over there. Of course.

Remember that for back of the day? And today still. Yeah. And led us on in there and we went to a table of six, but just four of us. It's tricky. And Blue Note, Jill Scott, you know this whole place is about to be jam packed. So they kept trying to send just two random strangers to our table. And we kept lying to them saying.

We got two people coming. We have two people coming. That happened at least five times we was lying to them. Like it was hot. It was trying to get these seats out. And boy, we look up and who do I see? My co-worker and his lovely wife. And they come in and I put my arm in the hair.

It's slow motion. I was like, Joe being realness. He walked all the way over to the table. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. No, this is when I just seen you. You didn't see this. Okay, okay, okay. I put my hand on.

Say, Ma'am. And Mark just sits down with his wife at the table, some other new table that the host is brought him to. Table for two. Table for four. He's over there with Angela Yee. Shout to Angela Yee. Shout to Angela. So then he went up to go to Coach Act to hang the coats up.

And that's when I beeline. That's when I made my move. I sprinted toward him. Grabbed his shoulder. Hey, man. Let's see for you. Got your seats right here. We back here, man.

if you, uh, who had the better table? Well, he was right in front of the stage. I was in front of the stage. He was right in front of the stage. Yeah, he booked this shit weeks ago. No, I didn't. He made a phone call. I made a phone call.

Yeah. Oh, pardon me. I mean, she had announced it to two days before. So it wasn't like, we all did, got the hookup. I swear, I don't know if any fans were in that motherfucker. I felt like everybody in there had the hookup at 8 o'clock and at 10th. I looked at the pictures from 8 o'clock. It was like everybody was in there but fans.

I mean, we're all fans, but I mean, like, we all fans. I felt bad for people who were trying to get the tickets. But no, we was there. And then we had just sat down and Angela had just said to me, oh, Mark, what's up? It's so good to see you. Nice to meet your wife. They both went to the same high school.

She was like, nice to meet you. I'm so glad you all was sitting here. We were scared they were going to put anybody at this table and it would have been a disaster for us. Thank you for being here. And then you move. Then I get up to claim to the toes. And that's when I felt Joe tapped me on the shoulder.

Like, we back there. Yep. Sorry. I had a choice to make. Mm-hmm. And he came and joined us, man. Thank God. Gang, gang.

Thank God. We had a time. We did. It was awkward as fuck, though. Because, so. Hold you. I understand. I understand.

I told you, niggas. All right, y'all back there? No, because the thing is... Well, you belong with the yee crowd. That's true. Yeah, you know. Our seats were great, too. Yeah, the seats were great.

Yeah. I mean, it's the blue notes. We didn't have a bad take. No, that's... That was... It was a tough. It was fine. But you're saying if the seats was a little compromise, you would.

Oh, no, I'm gonna get my, yeah, yeah. Because my wife was like, let's go back and say, hey, to Joe. And then we just stayed back there. But because I didn't, I came in and they took my phone and made us put them in those, the pouches, the pouches, yeah. Oh, yeah, nobody can have their phone in there, but me, Parks, Remming Shadee. I'm gonna say, somehow, I look, I'm saying Shadee, you know what I mean? Having a blast.

Texting away, brightness all the way up on the phone. I'm like, how the fuck did I get the gym? pop treatment. And I realized because when my wife came in, she surrendered her phone first, which I would not have done. But she likes to play by the rules. My wife is like a good Samaritan shit. So she's playing by the rule. So we came in. So I couldn't call Joe to even see if y'all were here yet because I ain't had no phone. So now, so when I went back, I was like, what do we do? I don't want to go see. I love her. I'm going to just go sit down. I'll explain later. Then I realized I had left the phone pouch. Oh, shit. I told me, we used to

know how to bust them motherfuckers. Yeah. We bought some nap. We bust some shit that. I had to go back to the table and take it and explain that we had left. So I was like, well, you know Joe had something for us. You know, he had a table back there. I didn't realize this. I just kept saying a lot of words out. I just kept saying a lot of words.

I felt real bad because it wasn't because of her. It was just because, you know, you're all my people. So I got to say, man, Jill Scott's background singers. And band in generals. That's hell. Fire. Yeah, the band, the entire performance was great. I went in expecting to see a great band at the Blue No.

Right. sometimes a background singer I'm not sure about those three background singers three guys they killed the year three guys but had the range of everything

yes whatever the girls should be singing they absolutely killed shard ain't them telling me one of them dudes just kind of popping kind of popping like TikTok popping like

Instagram thing like yeah the tall one I want to say his name is Glenn okay tall one who was doing soprano and alto and that whole crew. That was a great performance, great night. Shout to Jill Scott.

We had an amazing interview here. Mad meows. Come on, give a couple of meows. She did a tiny desk, too, if you all want to see it out there. It's the same band. You'll get a little bit of the vibe.

It's different in person, but the tiny desk is amazing as well. Yeah. And that show, I liked the album before, but that show maybe loved that album. It made me appreciate some of the songs differently. Yeah, I said that.

It was me, Amani, and Rem driving to the new edition show. And I was like, this is going to be really, way better live. Yeah. And it came to be true. Yeah, it came out like that.

Yeah, yeah. Pressure live. Yes. Pressure live is like a moment versus, I mean, I guess it's a moment on the album too, but live? No, live, that should be different. It's different. It's different.

It's different. Very different outcome. So congratulations, Jill. Thank you for stopping by. Thank you. Thank you for coming and discussing conflict resolution with us. That was awesome. Yeah.

Yeah. And for bringing the best out of ish, man. I've seen you like that before. Man, I ain't talking about your talent as a podcast. I'm talking about like, meow. That meow was crazy. He was meows?

He meowed here. Oh, this thing of meow? The whole time. He said I was hot. Not a boy cat. No. Off second hand. This shit was falsetto.

Off second hand. Contact hard. Yeah. Oh, shit. This nigger, you hear him over there? This guy's a fool. Yeah, why you can't just say when you was in a bag? what do you mean

I was in my bag with Jill double entendre you was in your bag and hers it's nothing wrong with saying yo I met somebody and they was fly and I was in the bag I was just doing my job bro

that's all I was doing you're I mean and I'm grateful for that my brother you do a phenomenal job we're not already what do you guys we can't be out of it

we are about it wow About 56 minutes when my camera. Sure. There one thing I can tell you how long we've been seen. That's my fucking. He'd be working.

This guy. Well, let's talk about All-Storn weekend. Let's do it. All right. Let's talk about All-Stone weekend. At first, I was going to come in here and kill it. But. I'm with you.

I got a gun. But the actual All-Star game was very good. It was very good. Until the last game. No, last game. The last game was. They were trying, but... Yeah.

The last game was the old head's third straight. Yeah, ran out of gas. It's over. It's over. We're older. We're chilling. They're chilling. They're trying.

You got these young boys going back and forth. But walk me through your thoughts on Friday and Saturday. Did you watch any of it? I tried to, but I didn't realize it started it fucking 3 p.m. It was so early. Yeah, I missed it. So I caught the dunk contest. Because of the Winter Olympics, the entire weekend was early.

Okay. This is that reason. Which is why All-Star game was finished by 8 o'clock. Friday and. Saturday both were still pretty early. Friday, I'm lit, nigga. Kick rocks. I'm not beat. Sorry. I've seen MTV rocking jock.

I've seen Kevin Hart win MVP before. I don't need to see Timothy Shalemate shoot three. He wasn't there, but whatever that celebrity is on Friday, Shams. I don't need to see Shams. I didn't even know it happened. Yeah, Shams was playing. Yeah, no, I was lit. We was lit on Friday. So Friday, I have no idea what they were doing.

Saturday, I tuned in early enough to see the Knicks win whatever challenge that was we won. I don't know what the challenge was. It's not the skills challenge. Yeah, they took the rising skills challenge. Yeah, that's out of here ever since Wimbignan. Yeah. And Chris Ball cheated.

Oh, they found the little, yeah, yeah. And that wasn't cheating. But, I mean, I get it. I get it. I get it. I got it. I got it. I got a loophole.

So I saw the Knicks win. I saw Damien Lillow win the three-point contest. That three-point contest was absolutely great. Was it? Yes, because in round one, well, the dynamics, right? You got Khan Canuple, who is the best, no, he's the best rookie shooter that the league has ever seen. Okay. Like, that's the pace he's on.

Got it. Okay. Before All-Star break, he's made, I want to say, off the top of my head, 149, 147 threes. Nobody's ever done that before. Okay. So, and it's him and it's Devin Booker and it's Damien Lillard. And it's the OGs. You know you don't want to let this rookie kid come in.

And round one, he was looking like Larry Bird with the warm-ups on. Like, he made, I think he had 29 or 31 round one. Shit, shit. Yeah, it was looking like, it was looking like that. So he advanced, Dame advanced, Devin Booker advanced, and then it's round two, and then he cooled off. The rookie cooled off, and he got like at 17 or something. And that's when Dame took over and put 29 on the board. Easy.

He was hitting the low. go shots. He was hidden he went crazy. And then Devin Booker went crazier. He went crazier than Dame Lillard

and had him beat dead to right. He gets to the last rack. He only needs to make two of these to win. Dope. Made one. Damn, really.

That was the only rack that that happened like that. I'll go back and watch that. So now Devin Booker is looking like, Dog. And Dame is like, ah.

So congratulations. Congratulations, Damian Lillard, three-time three-point champion. I'm going to play the game this year. They tune right, they, uh, paying right to a Steph Curry interview talking about next year because Steph Curry wants to defend his. He also wants to get three. I think he has two. So he said he wants to get Devin Booker, Clay, Dane.

He didn't name the young boy. Hmm. That's just me noticing. I'm not saying he was doing something. Gotcha. But he did not name the young boy. But the young boy, you know, will be there. For sure.

So the three-point comment. Contest was great. And if I'm stuff, I'm not, I'm, these, we OGs, like, yeah, I don't, he'll be there. I don't got to name him. Yeah, put whoever else in there. Yeah, put whoever else in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then whoever else are you're right.

And then whoever you're right. But stop it. You're right, but stop. Rookie got to wait. Yeah. You got to earn your name to be mentioned. When I start calling out. I agree with all that.

I agree with all that. You got to earn that. But Steph Curry knows that that boy is going to play. That's fine. It's on your mind. He also knows he's Steph Curry. Right. I'm gonna fuck who playing?

Joe. I will, you can't, I know who's, uh, Wardell. Okay. Yeah,

I'm not playing with Wardell. I'm not playing with Warnell. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And I, I agree with y'all. Oh, okay. You all don't have to convince me.

It's Wardell. So I'm gonna just speak. He don't have to say Khan fucking Canoopal. I'm not, I'm not paying respect to my brothers that have been in the struggle, but right.

But if you're gonna say Clay right now, shout out of Clay. He follows me. Clay won. Shut out the Clay won before. It was a, He's mentioning people. And he's a shooter.

We talked about, yeah, we talked about shooters. And winners, champions. They all won the three-point contests before. Can't do that. The dunk contest,

we'd be better off putting the trash can at the middle of the, at the middle of the court and just dunking, like, paper, balls of paper that we bunched up. They might as well go ahead and get rid of that shit this point. They could have put us on an eight-and-a-half-foot rim. It had us just go out. Five-foot rim.

Ficked up Achilles and all. With a trampoline. Nick of Jackson Hayes did a regular dunk. I said, yo, what, that shit was trashed. No, Jackson Hayes did a few regular dunks. This is where I was going to come in to trash the whole weekend. Jackson Hayes, I tweeted. He could have stayed in his hotel.

Then he was like, Joe, he lives around the corner. I said, even worse. He could have stayed in the comfort of his home and not participated at all in this. Damn, in full circle, right back to you guys is you're scared to see your seed be a failure, kind of because there's nothing that's a failure about Jason Richardson's son

who's on the magic whose name is Richardson we love that black basketball dad's nepotism not nepotism but yeah nurturing you get them to the leave we love that we absolutely

love that it only becomes a problem when the first dunk you do is to honor your dad and then they put your dad your dad's version of the dunk on the big screen. So Jason Richardson's dunk was like a 30, like out of 10. Like it was some 360 reverse.

And then the one his son did was like the today version of that. Like the, like the, you know, they had frosted flakes and they had flakes with sugar. It was like But you know the kid could get up Because they said he's 6-1 I'm like All right so you know he could get up Because he got his dad house

But 6-1 Just do your own dunk big dog Yeah Homeboy from the Spurs He gets up So I can't say anything about him I don't know his name Kavant I don't know

I'm not sure his name But he gets up And home boy that was on Miami That came out His energy was just great to see He danced the entire time He's from the Bay. He's a young guy.

He's in good shape. Let's do that jump over E40, right? Yeah, yeah. He came out with E40. So cool, bring some swag back. Bring some swag back. Right, right. And it was this portion of All Star Weekend where I said,

All Star Weekend has to find a way to embrace the drug dealing community. It's Disney now. Yes. That's the problem. Yeah. That's the problem. It's all too corporate, for sure. What are you?

It's way too corporate. I'm telling you something. I saw. I'm telling you something. As somebody that has been to many an All-Star Weekend all over this country, there was a presence that was not like a bad presence. There was a good presence of sport fans. It's like a fight in Vegas.

Sport fans and women that love this shit and the people that have this type of money, it was at an event for a weekend. Looking at All-Star Week, and you can tell that that just is not present anymore. Like I was so happy to see E40 It reminded me that Where are all you niggas? Where is Where are the people

That are not streamers Content creator? I'm happy to see them too But we do need drug dealers And all that drug dealers Attract We would have Drug dealers was the streamers

They were the ones That was gonna get your shit lit Where it was going to travel This was a we need We need to find a way I know it sounds not And also just people in general, because them stands were empty as fun. It's just an urban dynamic that we bought to the All-Star game.

Now they be selling all them corporate tickets. Shit is $5,000 a pop. I just Googled. The average ticket is $4,700. So the only people that could really afford it was the drug dealers. You know what I mean? Like, niggas were spending whatever. We was buying aftermarket tickets at whatever price.

Then they have to start to give the free. tickets out because the arena shouldn't look this empty. True. They tried to trick people with the lights and the seats. But we can tell that these seats are empty. It was empty. And that's for All-Star. That's for, I didn't see that shit packed out at all.

Not once. That shit. It wasn't even no hype around All-Star weekend. I didn't even know. It's starting to look like the Pro Bowl. Well, you know, I just nobody gives a fuck about the Pro Bowl. It's getting there. This is the most lacklesser.

Yeah. But every year it's a different. Until Sunday. I will say that in all of the All-Star games in the sports, that was one of the more competitive games I've seen in a long time. And I think they- Everybody echoed that. Yeah. They bust their eyes to get that feeling back.

Yeah. Because for the last five, six, seven, eight years, nobody gave a fuck about winning the All-Star game. Yeah. Everybody was a bullshit game. And in the last three minutes, people played defense. And the only nigga really cared about winning was Kobe. You know what I'm saying? So everybody else used to just look at the shit like it was a.

A meet and greet. Yeah, like, yo, I'm hanging out with my niggas that I knew since AAU. We laugh and we joking. A bunch of Aaloups in half-court threes. That shit was hard to watch. So this game was definitely good. And then, unfortunately, for the dunk contest and the three-point contest, the superstar presence in the dunk contest used to be a thing.

Yeah, it's needed. Like, if you had Jiamer in the dunk contest, motherfuckers would be like, oh, shit. You had some of the other high flyers in the dunk contest, niggas would be like, when it was T-Bintman, Ant-Man, Ant-Man, Jai. Niggas like that should be a league moved off the dumps. That's cool, but y'all could go go. You all could have got Maclunk again. Yeah, I'll take that.

Matt, it was weird because I saw Matt doing videos. He posted this stuff he would have done. Nobody paying to go see Matt. Nobody was paying to go see anybody. No, I'm just saying I think it would have been the same even with him. I'm talking about you need star about it. Those dunks that he was showing? No, he's a monster.

Those dunks he was shown, but I've never seen at least two of them. He's a monster. He's a monster. Just for entertainment say, go get Mac Mac Maclunk. Something, Mark is right. Something happened there to where. he couldn't perform or I don't know if he got cut a week before or something weird something weird happened but before the all-star game happened I had seen enough footage and and enough video

to conclude that Victor Wimbignana hates the Joker so that was my sub storyline that I was watching this is coming off of Kevin Durant doing that interview saying yeah where they asked you're y'all gonna take it serious and he highlighted the same two niggas that we all know Luca and the Joker these two dudes that make it very unsurious. I seen a bunch of women yana videos where he said I'm not

playing with none of them. I'm not here for games jokes y'all know in the summer he went to do the fucking Kuntakente shit he went to go do the shit over there with the monks. I'm serious. He said Kuntikinti. I was fucked up. I was fucking I'm talking about. Stop playing. I'm not playing.

He did do that. Niggins do that. He didn't do that. He went to do that too. I'm saying he takes this shit very serious. He's not playing. What I saw in him, I didn't think, and I've had this argument, he really didn't have all the arguments. No, he didn't really have much dog in him.

I saw something different over All-Star Weekend. He set out to win the fucking MVP, be like he wasn't playing with Kauai. None of them, niggas. Him and Kau start going at it in that game. Who? Wimby. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he had no own thing.

Some of his matchups, like when him and Dreybaw was going at it, way people are trying because they'd be trying to chump him now. Yeah. He's not going for that. Everybody better be happy that he's on a minute's restriction. He's doing what he's doing

and they only let him play 23 minutes a night. He's killing. So in the group picture now, you got Joker. You know, Joker standing next to Wimby, Joker, slapping Luca Donchick in the head,

bow, gik, gik, giz. Bow, kick, to Wimbi yon is like, don't get me away from these white boys. These white boys.

These white boys. Joe. White, rich. Man, go flat. So to see his attitude during the game and to hear Anthony Edwards say that Wimbagnan's attitude rubbed off on him and made him kind of play for real and take him serious. I think how they split the teams up just kind of inspired everybody. But Wimbabh, Wimbaugh looked different. Kauai, too. Kauai was whooping.

In that second game? Yeah. Nah, he bawled out for a nigger that wasn't supposed to be there. Him and Wimby. No, again, that game was him and Wimby. I think from the tip off, the first possession, somebody did something. Wemby got an offensive Some shit happened

You broke it down That first possession I see why you're a coach You're a ass That was a good ass game You killed that That first That first

That's nuts Yeah What happened I would always love him Like Whitney used it I swear to God Would you like Brady's Starts playing a little better

Different Yeah It was like a dooopi Kind of Yeah That was fun I just love her voice so much. She could sing anything to me.

It wasn't my favorite rendition. Yeah, I was fighting with myself. I love Brandy, and I love anything that Brandy does. And I don't know if I'd need to rep for the Star-Spangled banner. Yeah, that's other. But some songs, maybe you just want to

hear the regular races way. Like, some racism, I don't think, was intended to be altered. But you can love her. and knocked them and not like that. I liked it. I saw a lot of people hate on it.

So I watched it. I didn't love it. I didn't love it. I didn't love it. I didn't love it. Well, we know. We know. You know you didn't like it.

There's at least three reasons. Leave our flag alone. Yo, Ice didn't move to Pennsylvania and we really can't vouch for what he was doing out there. I'm telling you, he went out there and was on some hillbilly. America pickup truck type shit Oh shit That's my man

I'm always love you too For you out there too Nick Huh It's hood out there Not where you was at Not where you was at I was out there

He was out there I was out there I was out there Mennonite hoods Right You're a Mormon right You're what Yo what's up with you

I'm asking a question It was good I'm asking you You got Jesus James I'm just asking No ain't no fucking Mormon. Holy shit.

What the fuck? Yeah, Sting is an idiot. My bad. You're not. That's my bad. Yeah, that's your bad,

man. Snick is a fool. No, I don't. Ain't no Mormon. There's Amish people out there. The Minenites. Ice is something. He's got a horse.

He Amish and Muslim. Ice is burned. Like, 5% of Muslim Muslim. It might be a 5% Amish that we don't know about. I'm not. Y'all are crazy

I'm gonna figure it out by the end of this part That I'm something Outside of your CDL I know that those your frat brothers That's That's his That's his gang That's the same

Anyway man Congratulations to Adam Silver in the NBA It looks like y'all did get the All-Star game right. Aside from scheduling, it was pretty entertaining. Yeah, yeah. No, it was. That afternoon shit ain't it? You either got to go like 1 p.m.

and have it like on football time or 8 p.m. So we can watch it. It got to be 8 p.m. All-Star Saturday night was the thing. Always evening night. I agree. But if you're going to do afternoon, do it early, early so that you wake up and put on the game. I see what you're saying?

I didn't know that shit was playing that early. I was like, what the fuck? Same. I think I saw you tweet it. And that's what I was like, oh shit, it's on. I didn't even realize it. And it was over as soon as I turned that motherfucker on, I was like, all right. Well, listen, now it's time for one of my favorite parts of this show, I tell you.

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Uh-oh. This is great. I hope this is what I think of this. So listen, so the other night I wake up, I went to sleep too early So I woke up at just two in the morning My girls in bed So I'm trying to find something to watch

That's not going to interrupt our binge watching Of the shows we're watching That'd be annoying, bro. That'd be a thing. That'd be a thing. You're trying to find something? Yeah, I'm just watching bullshit Fucking legacy among monarchs of whatever.

Oh, no, that's fire, though. Is it? Yes. On Apple shit. Yeah. Is that good? Yes. Season two, get rid of it.

come out. Yeah, it didn't sound good. No, that's good. There's a big monster coming, so we need to help up the other big monsters. Where's King Kong and Godzilla? Nah, it's different. Monarch Legacy of Monsters is called. All right, so I'll check it out. Yeah, check that out. I don't care of your description. I said I'll check it out.

But anyway, so I end up because he's about to, like, really tell me. I don't care. So I end up just clicking on the three episode order of America's next top model doc. Wait, you watch this with

Shadee? I watched episode one without Shadda. Oh, that sounds like an ass-woping. Yeah, that's because... Well, she was sleep. I mean, I didn't want to interrupt her, and I really didn't think that this was about to be a thing.

Oh, it's a thing. Boy, was I mistaken. By the time I got to the end of episode one, I said, okay, I can't watch anymore this. Yeah. She's gonna want to watch this. See, Rem's a TikTok girlie, like Shade is a TikTok girl.

So she's been telling me about the TikTokers reporting back on 2025, 26, eyes on America's next top model. So she's been forecasting this. Let me tell you guys out there. There's so many people that I just didn't know needed to be put underneath

the jail. Like fucking Chevy Chase, I had no idea. Tyra Banks needs her own independent cell underground like the jail from Paradise. On the black sites. In the new, yeah, yeah. Tyra Banks, Tyra fucking Banks.

That show was a mess. Holy shit. What a great mess. What a great show. If you haven't seen the America's Next Top Model shit on Netflix, this is not an ad. I promise you.

You are in for some good viewing. I don't know if it's meant to be a comedy. I was cracking up the whole time. I laughed. But kind of out of disgust. Let me be clear. Dark sense of humor. Like, it's not funny.

Yeah. What they were doing to these contestants was not funny at all. What's so bad that they were doing? Well, in season one. Well, where would you like to begin? And when was season one? What year, do you know?

Oh, two. Somewhere back then. Somewhere back then. Season one, one of the contestants who was like a stocker at Walgreens in the middle of the country somewhere gets on the show. And they go to Milan, Italy, and they got some dudes driving around on the Vespas on some Italy tour or shit. They invite the guys back after the shoot. And they get drunk in the hot tub. and blackout,

she ends up being essayed, essentially because she was blackout drunk. Right, right. By one of the people, and they filmed everything, and then she had a boyfriend. So they filmed her calling her boyfriend to tell him that she cheated on him.

But it wasn't, I don't think that's really cheating also because she was blackout drunk. Right. She was, yeah, I got you. Wow. And they filmed that shit. And this is episode one of the doc.

which I have an issue with, by the way, because the infractions got very, very less. Like, it started with that, and then it was, like, inappropriate models, dancing scenes, a little handsy, which is terrible in itself. Don't get me twisted. But this woman was assaulted on fucking camera. Yikes.

Lizard Parks is even speeding some for me. Yeah, okay. Slow down. Step one, act cycle one, is regular model. You're thin, you're not thin, you're fat, you're not fat. But there was this black girl that they was just treating away. Oh, that's horrible. And at the first, this is the first cycle, the first scene.

So this could be taken either way. This could be taken like, hey, this is regular model shit that they're doing. Or it can be taken like they are pinpointing, highlighting this black girl and speaking to her a certain way. And what that was is they were calling her, they were saying that she appeared ashy. They were calling her ashy, bad skin. She had amazing skin, by the way. Yeah. So it started with just these black racist buzzwords to this one black woman. Who was saying stuff? Tyra Banks. Oh, okay. Really? It's Tyra fucking Bair Banks.

Absolute monster. Tyra's a monster? She's horrible. Wow. If I'm going by this, and I am. Same. And I am.

So at first, you're like, okay, that's bad. But it just, to me, it kept getting worse and worse. I think the essay rape portion was probably the worst thing

that they showed. And that was horrible. The boyfriend saw a commercial one day for America's top model, next top model. encourage his girlfriend to go on the show. Like Park said, she's in the house.

They invite guys over. She says I'm a bad drunk. I don't really drink. I'm a light drinker. They put alcohol in there. They're not feeding them. Yeah, they're not feeding them. You can't eat.

So you know the liquor's hitting. So, yeah, her and one of the guys end up having sex. They had a rule in the house that said, you can, if you're in the bathroom by yourself, then no filming can be done. But other than that, this is done like the real world. documentary style. But because she went in the bathroom with a guy, they went in the bathroom and filmed whatever was happening,

which was an essay in the shower. It's never acknowledged that this woman is being sexually assaulted on our property under our supervision, under our watch. So then they shaped the narrative to say that she's cheating. they send Tyra into the little private campfire moment to just talk about how she identified because she had been cheated on before. Hey, I've cheated before and have been cheated on before

as tough as a model and you've got to have the discipline. This is the conversation she's having at the campfire. So the girl is like, wait, what? Then they force her to call the boyfriend, like Park said, on air to say, I cheated on you. And this whole shit is... It's as horrible as it sounds. Back to the poor black girl that they called Ashley,

they give her some special lotion and shit. Then the other people are complaining about her leaving lotion on the door handles and shit. It was horrible. They cut her hair wrong with the wrong clippers and shit. But then they highlighted how highly successful this show became after the first season. And then they started to do Africa's next top model, London's next top model.

So they're exploiting these people who believe that they're coming to get some type of modeling gig and modeling help. But this is really all for shits and giggles and for television purposes. And we're conducting this like a television show. The grievances got so bad. I had to start writing them down

because I would forget. Then you got the dentist episode. Oh, my God. Wait, let me just ask. Did Tyra herself, like, appearing this? Yes, this is her show. She's an EP. Ira is on this show in a beautiful...

No, I'm not talking about the dock. She's in a beautiful jacket, leather jacket, makeup done, hair to it. And she's explaining her thought process, but she's not apologizing. No. Oh. She has not apologized for any of the behavior. In fact, after the essay speech, essay part was done, it was her and the producer dude, I want to say his name is Ken saying, yeah, this was filmed, documentary style. and we were sure to get

the cameras never stopped wrong that was the attitude about it. Never that this is wrong. Never an apology. So you fast forward later on there's another girl. There's two girls, I don't know what cycle we are in now.

There's two girls, one black, one white, both, the black girl has a gap in her mouth. Okay. The white girl, her teeth is fucked up. So one of the challenges and every season the challenges got exponentially more difficult and just weird.

Yeah, it starts with a makeover which is hair, makeup, you know, regular shit, get some extensions, maybe, change your dress, the way you dress, find an identity, shit like that. But then... But now she's saying, we're going to go to the dentist.

And she picks these two girls with the fucked up grill, takes them to the dentist. She tells the black girl, we have to get rid of this gap. If you want to work and be a model and be on the cover of magazines, you can have no gap.

She don't want to get rid of the gap. So the girl says, multiple times. I like my gap. I love my gap. I don't want to get rid of my gap. So then Tyra blasts her in front of the, whatever, the end scene of America's next top model

is when you're in front of everybody. Blast her, yells at her, screams at her, and basically says, if I keep you on this show, I'll remove you, but I'll keep you if you promise to get your gap shortened. So the girl does get the gap short. Reluctantly, of course. And they show the white girl, she gets her old jibs redone.

And she's excited because for her, it feels like hitting the lottery because she could never afford to get the dent. It's worked on. But the black girl is really angry about it. She got her gap closed. She's here live talking about it with her gap clothes. And then they fast forward to a later cycle where Tyra is picking a contestant to basically go get a gap inserted.

Yeah, get it widened. Right. Huh? That's what I was thinking. I was like, yeah. There are a lot of people who want that as like a, especially now. Now it's different than back then, though. Yeah.

And mind you, they're not doing like proper orthopause. orthodontist work. They're just like ripping some teeth out and like putting some new shit in. It's not in my experience as someone who went through orthodilates, uh, invisible on shit. You don't just like go in there and pull some shit out and call it a day. Like it's a long process.

Dog, they wouldn't let, they wouldn't let her call her parents or her attorney before the procedure. They made her signed paperwork and wouldn't let her speak to her parents or her attorney. Oh, yeah. So that just let you know that not only, are they on bullshit, but they're well aware of the bullshit that they're on. It's cool. Fast forward to hold up.

What's after my dentist? What's after dentists? Race swapping. Oh, my God. They race swapped twice. Yes, blackface, white face, Native American face. Yeah. And for them, how they explained it was this is us showing appreciation to all of the different cultures

that make the modeling business run. go around. And they brought babies for them like to hold of the race that they're transformed into. Oh, this dog. At this point I'm bawling, hysterical in my bed. I can't even believe

that they putting this shit on TV, but it's not funny. They got this white girl painted with all blackface and then they said, and bring the kids. Bring the kids. So they bring a little black boy out there. And then at the end of that clip, you hear Tyra saying think of the

Egyptians think of what the Egyptians went through yes you said to I've rewind rounded yes she did think of the Egyptians and everything they went through

Tyra is a nut a monster and then they did that twice the reason I was going to say they set it up oh my God

that yeah we probably shouldn't have did that and then they're like two seasons later they did the same shit again let's run it back another particularly

agree just one to me is they did like a um for some reason dead models scene they did that twice too they did that twice too the death photo shoot yeah but one girl in particular her mom was shot in the head oh yeah oh my god yes and in her pose she was shot in the fucking head yes oh yeah oh yeah this shit is twisted they're getting off some sick shit on on people they getting their shit off that's what it sound like yeah and it's three hiding it behind three three Three episodes. Three episodes. Three episodes.

About an hourish each. Oh, I'll definitely watch it. It's totally worth it. This is totally your bag. I'm into this. Tyra Banks. Monster. Dog.

And then at the end of all of this, and it's much worse than we're describing. Yeah. At the end of all of this, Tyra got the nerve to start plugging some cycle 25, which is the show coming back now. That told me that she was a little off in the head. Yeah. Yeah. If I could go up here, describe all this foul shit, that all this smut, that's now on name and now I'm going to come and bring it back again.

But she didn't apologize for anything. Actually, she doubled down in most of it outside of maybe one of the race swaps. And they had her, they showed clips of her going on all of these talk shows giving you the performative, worked on practiced spiel of, oh, these models and we want to help them. And yeah, we just want to do that. But the model, one of them is cursing out now. The black girl was a few black girls. One of them is cursing out.

Let me find it. Well, because they're promised essentially a career in modeling. You get a, I think of Willamina or one of the big agencies to represent you. But the agencies don't look at you seriously because you were on some TV reality show shit. You came from over here. Yeah, we're not really taking you seriously. Yeah, you're signed here. Yeah, a few of them have done it.

But most don't. Yeah, that's what I googled to see how many people have made it. I mean, Winnie Harlow. that we would know and Eva, but it's a whole bunch of girls that made... A bunch of girls made it. I can't really pronounce it all of their names, but it's been some...

Some prodigy. It's been some... You're a hater, you know? It's all right, bro. I'll help you. My problem with the doc is that they started off with essay of this girl, and at the end, like you said,

they're, like, plugging a new show. So, like, the infractions got gentler and gentler and gentler. And it ends up kind of... It seems like they tried to make it like an ad kind of thing. I don't know. A rollout for series 25? Maybe.

Yeah, maybe. I didn't love the way that they kind of brushed over some very serious infractions in my opinion and made a bigger deal out of we didn't really get these girls modeling careers, which is bad, but it's a TV show. Like some of those expectations should be tempered in my opinion as opposed to filming someone getting fucking essayed. Dog, one of the stories that Parks mentions when they're on the photo shoot and. They toss in these extras, these guys. So the girl is saying, listen, one of the guys that they have thrown in is being extremely flirtatious with me.

He's making me uncomfortable. And then they show a clip of him like harassing them on some, hey, where you going after this? Or just whatever he was saying. So then they showed a shoot. And it's supposed to be her in the middle dancing and these guys dancing around her. But the home boy that was trying to kick a tour,

It's touching her the whole time. Like, you know, just touching her body, just mad, excited. So she stops it. She stops the whole shoot and says, and you're happy. You're rooting for it. She says, yo, I'm uncomfortable. This man has been on me the whole time and he's been trying to kick it. I don't know if this is how it normally goes,

but I'm not really comfortable with this. And she said she was met with just disappointment, almost like they were shocked that we were stopping production to speak about. To complain about this. And then she just highlighted the nerve and the audacity that it took for it. They talked about the final picture that they took from that shoot, which was the same guy grabbing her ass during the death. This show would just, it's too much happened for me to explain it to you. I'm definitely going to watch it again.

But it's totally changed my perception of Tyra Banks. Like she sounded full of shit. Yeah. Wow. Okay, I'm definitely going to watch it. It's not just the actions. It's when they pant to her, she sounded like something. somebody that was just full of shit, which is crazy.

Whatever I got to do for me and fuck anybody else, essentially. Basically. And by the end of it, most of the people that worked with her. Got fired. Or left because their conscious couldn't take, I can't even work on this anymore. But by the end, a lot of them didn't speak to her. Yeah. Actually, I think the show ends with the rest of the important people outside of Ken the producer and Tyrone.

like meeting up, Lincoln, having drinks, hugging each other, like reminiscing, like talking about it. Without her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tyra Banks, boy. Fesh. Wow.

Horrible. Horrible. And then there's always been these stories lingering about Tyra and how she feels about young black women. But it's all like rumors and hearsays. I don't have any evidence of that. But watching this. Oh, shit.

And somewhere along the line when the show was having. having success, they started talking about the execs that kind of were, that okayed some of these things and the chain of command, the execs that kind of, you know, yeah. And they say, one of the girls say, yeah, because Don Ostroth said that when such is such is such and I'm snapping, I'm saying, Dawn Ostroth, Dawn, Ostroth, Dawn. Dawn, Ostroth, Don. Dawn Ostroth, I know Dawn Ostroth. Don Ostroth is the big wig TV exec that Spotify had come over there in year two when I was on the pod saying all that. There's racism on the bridge shit.

And I don't know her to be racist. So I'm not putting that on her. What I'm saying is I could tell in the functioning of things that I was being treated a way that didn't have anything to do with. metrics, numbers, or my performance. Like she, when she got on the phone, it was long like she had no idea who I was, this guy that's been number one for two years. Where you from?

How's the weather in L.A., she said. I was in Astoria underneath the train tracks. She's like, hey, Joe, how's so? L.A., right? You're like, your dog, are you giving me $100 million or not? No. It gets to the point in the conversation where you know not to even ask that because you know

you're looking at you like a time and I'm watching this shit and I'm like all these years early that's just your bag I never I knew I recognized the name but I didn't she was the chief content officer and advertising business officer of Spotify and Dawn Austroff has seen tremendous success which is the part

that's scary because the people that are going to act as barricades and barriers to your success and what should or shouldn't be happening for you feel away because of you black or you nigger or whatever you are. And we're super successful. Right. So, man, it was a mind fuck all over the place for me.

Shout out to Dawn Austroff. I'm so glad you're out of my life. I'm so glad that my success does not hinge on what you have for breakfast. Because I felt bad for those girls. You was involved? Shit. Oh, my Lord. That show was a damn mess.

Hey, if you get some time, please give this one a spin. You should not be disappointed. You won't be. Not at all. Not at all. We've been sure watching that one. We should, I hate to darken the mood. Do you? No, let's do it. We prep for you. Yeah. No, it's a tough day for me and for black America. Yeah. People, anybody who loves black people.

It's a tough day. Early this morning. Reverend Jesse Jackson passed away at the age of 84. It's a tough loss for so many of us. He had been diagnosed with Parkinson's, and he'd been ill for a while, so it wasn't a medical surprise, but it still was no less devastating for so many of us. I think it's important for us to really understand. Jesse Jackson was and what he meant to our community, to our country, to the world. You know, sometimes as you age and new leaders come and new people come, it's easy to

forget the people whose shoulders we stand on. But Jesse Jackson was different in every way imaginable. He's a child of the civil rights movement. He was a mentee of Martin Luther King. He was a civil rights pioneer himself. He's the the founder of Operation Push, Operation Breadbasket. He did so many things for so many people. And I think it's incredibly important that we remember him for who he was. A lot of times, Martin Luther King is somebody who died and was swept into martyrdom like Malcolm X and Macon, Macon Everest and all these other people.

But Jesse Jackson had the burden. Jesse Jackson had the burden of living. He had to live. and he had to struggle and he had to get up and he had to fall and he had to do all sorts of things which is different and harder and he did it with style

and grace and dignity and he did it for us and I think we can't forget that there is no civil rights movement without people like Jesse Jackson he ran for president twice in 1984 and 1988 88 that's Dukakis

that's Dukakis and he won 13 states by the way We like to act like that was a vanity run or a show run. He'd be a got more states than Joe Biden. But that wasn't just a vanity run. He expanded the electorate. He got people registered who weren't voting already. And that didn't just do Jesse Jackson a service.

It did black people a service. He ran in 84 and Dinkins wins in 85. He runs in 88. Douglas Wilder becomes governor of Virginia in 89. He changed how voting worked. He changed how this country worked. And he forced a Democratic Party as failed as it is. continues to be, he forced it to listen to our needs and to respond to black people in a way

that people don't understand. Jesse Jackson freed hostages. He's the one who met with Arafat. He's the one who freed Mahfah Dilahad. He went to Syria. He went to Palestine. He went to these places and brought hostages home. He created jobs. He forced companies in corporate America to listen to us and to act right by us. He organized boycotts that changed the world. Jesse Jackson was different. And he was a cultural icon. I think that's the part that people forget. one of the most important albums, you know, you listen to Aretha Frankl's albums, he's there. You go to one of the most important concerts,

Watt Stacks. He's speaking at Watt Stax. And one of the hip-hop sandwich, you always hear is brothers and sisters. That's Jesse Jackson. Jesse Jackson was at every cultural event. He was open in space for people all across the board. He was on Sesame Street. He was, I mean, he was everywhere. And again, he did it for us. He was a global leader. Before we had

black presidents, Jesse Jackson was our president. before we had people who could represent us in corporate America, Jesse Jackson was our representative. Jesse Jackson was so special. And he was a mentor and a friend and a hero of mine. He's the first person to bring me to Africa. He took me around. He mentored me.

He was always a friend. He was always just wonderful to me. But beyond that, I think the thing that I learned most from Jesse Jackson in conclusion is that he never stopped getting up. You know, he grew up in Greenville, South Carolina. and a child of segregation, and he still found books to read. He was, you know, played football. He wouldn't let him be quarterback.

He still played and fought, you know, and got better. He was somebody who had to stand on the balcony as Martin King was assassinated. And instead of folding as he could have, he created organizations and movements to help poor people. Jesse Jackson was born with a father. who didn't who live next door his dad Noah Robinson had a family next door he would literally stand in a window and look at his father with his actual family because his father was married to somebody else and look and watch them and around town they told him that because he didn't know who his father was it because his father didn't claim him that he was nobody and he went to children

around the world and said i am somebody he was preaching to himself but he also turned that message in that ministry out to the world and said whether you're poor, whether you're on welfare, whether you come from this place or that place, you are still somebody. Jesse Jackson is the epitome of the wounded healer. He was hurt and he was harmed, but he never stopped trying to heal the world.

And he was not perfect. And there will be people right now, as is there right, because I do it sometimes, who will have criticisms of Jesse Jackson. But again, he had the burden of living. And as he said in 84, we're not. perfect servants, with public servants, working against the odds. And so as I continue to grow, you know, be patient with me. God's not finished with me yet. Seems now God is finished with

Jesse Jackson on this plane. And so we we send him gratitude. We send him love. I send love to his family for being our steward, for being our leader, for being the person who helped us when we had no help who represented us when we had no representation and who loved us until the day he died. Rest in peace, Rev. Yeah. Rest and peace.

Rest and peace. Rest in peace. Jesse Jackson. And thank you. Yes, thank you. Seems like a bad time to say rest in peace, Robert Duvall. I figured ICE would get that one.

Yeah, Ice, come on. Robert Duvall died, man. That's our guy. It's his guy. Yeah, it's his guy. It's your guy. Man, stop playing. Rest in peace, Robert,

all two hands. For sure, a basic actor. Of Godfather fame. Yes. Golden Globe. I think he won the Golden Globe four times if I'm reading right, but I'm off the dome. Emmy Award winner. Oscar winner.

Bafta winner. Oscar winner. Let me pull it up because he won too much. Here we go. Academy Award. BAFTA Award. Four Golden Globe Awards, two prime time Emmy Awards, a satellite award, and the screen actors Guild Award. At the time of his death,

he was one of the last surviving stars from the Golden Age of Hollywood. Real niggas known from the Godfather as well as countless other things. Rest in peace, Bobby Duvall. Gone but not forgotten. I got a freeze. I'm worried about it.

All right, brother Mark has to run. He's hitting you out with an Eskimo goodbye or Irish goodbye. Eskimo, goodbye. Mark, we love you. Take care, bro. Peace, Mark. Jesus Oh, what's going on? What's going on?

What's going on? Oh, what's going on? Yeah. Rest in peace, Jesse Jackson and Robert Duvall. Yeah, rest of peace. Thank you, Mark, for your beautiful market. He's the best. He's excellent at that shit.

He's such a pastor when it comes to that type of stuff. He'd get up there and get them going. No, I appreciate him. Word. I do. We wouldn't have did that. Well, I would have tried. I mean, we wouldn't have did that.

Yeah. somebody would have. I wouldn't have. His voice changes to do it. That's what I'm saying. You hear him? We couldn't do it like he did. He even put the cracks in his voice in the right place.

He's trying to make me cry. What else needs our attention? What else needs our attention? You're watching the good stand-ups lately? No, actually. No, I haven't, freeze. I haven't either. Oh, shit.

I'm just, listen, man, it was too, back-to-back damn there. I'm browsing around and I see, oh, shit, we got a new, Mike Epps. Uh-huh. And then out of nowhere, I didn't see no promotion anything. We get a new Cat Williams. Yep.

Naturally, I'm going to run. I'm going to haul ass to both of those. For sure. Save it. Dead, really. I heard that Mike Epson was all right. All right compared to what? I ain't see it.

I just, people said it wasn't bad. I didn't run to it, though. Like, niggas wasn't praising it. They just was like, nah, it was pretty cool. They heavy hit us. So when they drop, you know what I'm saying? Especially if it's out of nowhere, there's no promo for it. It pops up on your screen.

Oh, shit. Yo, we're going to watch this. I'm letting y'all know. Don't waste your time. Dave. Don't waste your time. I was thinking about watching, too. Kat, going to light you up, buddies.

That's okay. I mean, listen, he can critique whatever he wants to critique about me, too. He has great stand-ups, and this one wasn't one of them. That shit was ass. Oh, for real. It was horrible. I saw him. Cadw Williams.

I saw him Mikeaps. Nah, not their best. not their best outings. Yeah, that's all. At all. It's all right. Yeah. Legends.

You got classics. It happens to the best of us. I don't have a negative word to say about either gentlemen. Just these particular stand-ups. Not so great. Okay. Not so great. Not so great.

We do have a, we have an update on what DeSis has been up to. Oh, great. Big fit of DeSis. If anybody was wondering, Deesis, Deas from Deasis and Merrill. Fame, you know I mean? Maro's going on to be the morning show hosted a Hot 97 as well as other things

7 p.m. in Brooklyn. Merrill's got a lot going on. D.S. immediately after the break, we didn't hear too much from. I know he went to L.A. for a little while. He was making the rounds out there doing some interviews. We thought he was about to be, you know, we thought they were prepping him to do some acting big with.

Yeah, yeah. He was hanging with Colbert and that whole squad. Yeah, that whole crew. And when you moved to L.A. and start hanging out. with Colbert. You think some greater things on our... We thought you was about it. Leave Merrill in the dust, boy. We did.

I did. I thought you had a trick up your sleeve. But this is what D's this is up to currently. Let's hear him out. Let's do it. Oh. Here we go. What's this new show about?

This new show is called Deez's Pieces. It's about me picking up the distorted and destroyed pieces of my life and putting them on the camera to entertain y'all because, I mean, that's basically what my career has been. So, you know, it's one of that. No, actually it's called D.Z's Pieces because I would like to give you different pieces of content. It's not always going to be me here sitting yapping.

Sometimes, you know, maybe we'll go out into the real world. Maybe I have, like, a sandwich that's not a chop key. I know some of y'all can't believe I eat food that's not chopped cheeses, but I do. And we're just going to make small bits of content to entertain you. Deezis, who is your audience? My audience. Ooh, shut-ins. People who have stray cats.

If you're socially awkward, if you, you know, you're scared of your neighbors. My family used to be attractive people, but since COVID is... You can watch this if you're of my age and your 20s, and you'll get all the references. And if you're like a little older, like 25, you can also watch it. I want to pause it right here. This is like the worst sales job I've ever heard of my life. I want to pause this right here because I do want to add that he also don't look like the same guy.

He... Upra? Not at all. A big part of... And I'll send this video to Erickson, so hopefully he can put him on the screen. A big part of DeSis and Mero was that New York, we're from New York, Bronx, bodega style comedy. Yeah. Deesis here looks very, even sounds like a transplan.

He sound different. He sound like he got L.A. andized. I mean, like he's L.A.ed out back here. Well, let me not say back here because I didn't learn that until later in the clip. Let me keep the clip going. That's a good one, right? Degenerates, but then it's like Ellen. Look at them.

Yeah, okay. Because she's in England. She's in England, and she's not generous. So does that. That was funny. What are your favorite YouTubers? That's a good question. What's her name?

Jenna Bananas? Sure. Jenna Marbles, excuse me, that. Her. Mitch McConnell. Really funny black guy. Jesus. The sketches.

Jesus. Boom, right there. What have you been up to these past few years? Feeling sorry for myself. I moved around the country. I was on the West Coast for a little bit. Picked up thrifting, got a little eating disorder. It was vegan for two weeks.

I moved back to New York because I missed the brutal code. And I'm back. Yep. Pause it. Pause it. Yeah. Sorry. We got him. We got him.

I don't know if you was trying to give out some other information to use this and you a good guy. I got absolutely no problem with you. Nothing but success. But it's the same as when the bitch has moved out. and get fucking ran through and the nigga they thought was gonna save him, kick him out, and then they got to move back home.

He's basically saying it. Yo, since COVID, shit's been down. I've been picking up the pieces of my life. I know he's doing it with like the satire comedy type of thing going, but I don't believe none of that shit. I don't believe none of that satire shit. I think he went to L.A. and got his ass handed to him.

Yeah. But it might not be, he might be turning it into satire about telling the harsh truth at the same time. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm saying, but you like, I ain't buying it. I'm not, I'm not buying the satire portion of it. This happened. This happened. You went out there,

got cracked. We ain't wait three and a half years for you to pop back up with decent fucking pieces. Deasas pieces. I'm doing a bunch of random shit. I was just going to say, even the description. It sounds very focused. Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like we ain't flushed this out all the way yet. And let me act entitled for a second. And I'm a fan of

Desus. Word, same. Me too. But people that see a lot of success with culture like there's a part of me that does expect some type of some type of he just disappeared.

You just disappeared and the first thing you pop back up with is decent pieces? No, what happened? Where'd you go? Maybe you'll get that on the show. Why did you try to disassociate? Why haven't you spoken to anybody. Why does nobody know nothing? Why was Mero so mad and felt

like, see, watching this, you kind of get some of the Mero was pissed when that breakup happened. He was. You bugied on us. How could you buggy from the gang? We was solid. It was two of us. Who cares if Showtime don't want us. Let's pick this thing up and take this somewhere. And the way he made it sound,

because I talked to him, I interviewed him, D. D.S. I mean, not D. D.S. Mero. Yeah. Was like, Degis had other plans, and he didn't fuck with me in the business part. and he went to L.A. He's on some movie acting. But we've seen this shit happen

where you think the grass is greener. Like, yo, I think I could do this. Or you get the wrong people in your ear who you think are the right people telling you that this person is holding you back. Cool, but don't come back over here in New York to death now. Don't come New York me to death.

Don't throw the Yankee hat on now. Get the fuck out of here with that. Not Tedesis. No, that's what a lot of purpose. Not to Deasisis. But this New York performative and the first thing you do when shit get rough in New York

is run to L.A. get the fuck out of here D's pieces See I don't think I don't think it was When it got tough Run to L.A. When it was popping

When it was popping I was popping I ran the L.A. When it was hot Yeah And I thought my next move was L.A. Not because it's not working I look at both the same

You're right I look at both the same You bugied You upjumped and bugied And now you back in our face Talking about something Oh I'm picking up the shattered pieces Of my life

Wait what? I mean I might rather see the shattered pieces of life story than eating, uh, eating, uh,

eating, I think, I think, I think that'll be incorporated in there. I'm sorry. I think this just might be his trailer. I don't think it was a pretty good trailer, but,

yeah, um, it was a bad sell. Yeah, yes. Or the rollout, but I think you might be, this ain't the first thing

we should have heard from, from DECIS. I ain't gonna lie. DECIS, we care about you. Yeah, it should look and sound better. We care. We,

we, we, that's the thing. When I say culture, I mean, niggas learned about you from doing something and cared about you, is what I'm saying. So now you only in our face

when it's time for us to consume something, watch something, purchase something. I think that shit's whack. I do. I think it's whack. I think it's... And I think it's nobody in that DECIS pieces room that's gonna say, hey dog,

this is whack. This ain't the first time that we should see or hear you coming off of what was an extremely big show and our... Man, get the fuck out of these is pieces. I ain't know. I love you, but Disa's Pieces, I don't know. Well, somebody might have been in that room saying this is whack, but ain't nothing else shaking, so we got to do this anyway.

You got to try it. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? I mean, again, just looking at the trailer, it doesn't, this looked like we just thought to do this yesterday. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And it could be, and hold on, it could be, you know, again, I always, y'all know me, I always say, you know, why are we getting this right now? Merrill's hot of the fish grease.

Merrill just popped off. Merrill just set it off. I was already doing my thing with the 7 p.m. in Brooklyn and now I get this. So I got to say I can hear the pressure telling this little half-baked idea gotta come out. No, I can't have people stand.

Yo, you overthinking and shit. Just get it out. Yeah. You got to get out there. I fuck with D.S. We all do. I don't fuck with this move. And I'm not saying that the show won't be great.

I'll check it out. Of course. But nah, that's corny. That was corny. How you did that? was corny. I didn't like the trailer. Yeah, it's that matter.

Or whatever you call it. I didn't like that. You can't fool me with the self-deprecation stick. You could do it better too. You could. You got to do it better. You got to do it on some Marco type shit.

You know what I'm saying? He should have damn near been like under the trains in the story. You know what I'm saying? On some New York shit. Because if you're going to say you're picking back up the pieces of your life, then come back up here and say, yo, I blew it. Or that.

Say it. Yo, I tried to. I tried to bust a move. I tried to go to Hollywood. I tried to get with Kevin Hart's fucking team. I tried, or I tried to bungee on my man when he was fucking down and out. And I had a bright future, it seemed like, it didn't work. Come up and tell you.

He's not saying it for free. He, yo, you want to see it? I'm going to tell y'all what happened. I'm going to tell y'all when I was sleeping in the studio. Over a sandwich. But you're going to have to tune in to get that information. But say that, though. That's my thing.

Like, I think we'll get it. but that trailer doesn't tell me that we're going to get that. And even if it's just right, sometimes niggas put short term, short term money over long-term gain. Whatever money you about to get from, you're not saying it for free, well, you ain't said nothing for three years.

So, I mean, once we come get whatever we're looking for from your story, niggas is boogeying again versus you at least trying to appear. That's my thing. That's what I'm learning about me. I have a big problem with people that just are overtly disingenuous. Like that's how Tyra Banks came off. and that fucking thing of a jiggy, just like a fake fuck.

Yeah. And D's this comes off, not like a fake fuck, but this seems very disingenuous. It does. That's just my own take from it. It just seems not focused to me. Yeah.

That's my biggest problem. It seems rushed. Yeah. And with, I don't know how you rush it after having three years, but it still seems rushed. It seemed like this idea

just came together. You know, let's just do something. Right. Get out there now. I did find the girl Tiffany cursing out of Tyra Banks. Hold up. And Tyra Banks,

you don't even just. I don't have your name, bitch it before we're doing on Chessie Jackson, rest of the piece. She says, hold up, Tiber Banks. Let's keep it cute. You are one lying-ass, tired-ass bitch. You know you treated me the whole time off

and on camera. You was a bully. You treated me like shit and said the nastiest things about me and my son. This is not how the argument went, but y'all edited it to make it look like you cared. Also, fuck the shave room, fuck y'all weird-ass fans, and fuck you, Tyra Banks. I bet you won't

sit down with me face to face and talk about it. Also, fuck my family too. Yep. You all don't ever defend me. I got more money and helping more people than all of, than all or many of the top models, but that's the update y'all give me. Damn shame.

It's giving y'all still hating on a little black ass me at Tyra Banks. Oh, just let it go. It's been over 20 years to fuck. All right. The yopper out of it. Which model was that? That was Tiffany.

That was, I want to say. a young lady with the gap. No, that was the girl that she was trying to, like, fake mentee, I think. The girl that was on earlier, and then she did it, and then she brought her back, and she laid into her at the end episode. That is who I'm talking about. Such a pretty girl, too. She was, yeah.

Such a pretty girl. What else needs our attention? We can run through all it. You want to talk about the Vlad Post causing quite the stir? DJ Vlad posted what I assumed to be sarcasm. it was not. I thought it was trolling. I didn't take it seriously at all, but the internet is stupid sometimes. So they took it as gospel. I had people who I deemed to be intelligent, smart, witty people saying, you know, is this real? What do you say? You got it? Yeah, I got it. Let's hear it.

I have a confession. Rock Nation has been paying me to support Megan. They also paid off all the jury members to convictory. And they robbed the judge too. Jay Z did a verse for his grandson's new album. They paid off Megan's doctor to lie about the bullet fragments and she was never shot. The L.A. police are all on Jay's payroll and it doesn't stop with L.A., but you're not ready to hear that part. The Mexican guy who stabbed Tori, who do you think paid him to do that? You already know the answer to that. The three Supreme Court judges who denied Tori's appeal all paid off by the Rock Mafia.

Jay also paid Trump not to pardon Tory, even though it's a state case. Trump can only part in federal cases But knowing Trump's Knowing Trump likes to bend the rules Jay wasn't taking any chances I can't keep these lies secret anymore If this is my last tweet You know who silenced me

That screamed sarcasm to me I mean It screamed it The federal A lot of this shit just Jay did a verse for his grandson's album That's where It was pretty early tweet

I was like okay he's fucking around I don't know why But he's fucking around why didn't the internet know he was fucking around? Because the internet wants to believe Because they want to hang Jay Zee. Yes, yes. No matter what.

So no matter who, somebody come out saying anything like this, which is confirming all the shit that they keep saying about, Hove, they're ready to go. Because that's what it is. At the end of the day, they're looking for any reason to hang Jay. Why would Vlad post that? Better question, but

who you're asking for? No, I'm just saying, like, I have no answer for why people troll when they troll. To me, once you say you're trolling means you don't get to answer any of the, you don't have to answer the why or the motive or the, you're trolling. Okay.

I don't know. You got to, you got to. No, no, no. I'm just saying, all I should be, oh, you said it's goofy. Yeah, these nigs be goofy to me, bro. Okay. I don't.

You get what I'm saying? Like, you know what? You know there's some people out there. You know this is going to go super duper duper viral and create a frenzy, right? Whether good or whether bad, you know what it's going to do. So why would you do that? Even if, like, let's say you on J&M's side. Let's say because if he's trolling, then it's sarcasm like, yo, ha, ha, ha, Jay Z got all the power in the world.

Cool, if that's your stance, right? You know what is going to do on the other side of the aisle. So I don't, I don't know, y'all. I just think this shit is disgusting. And he's since posted a couple of things a couple hours ago. For everyone checking on me, I'm okay for now. And then two hours ago, and for the record, I wasn't hacked. We're done with Ladd.

I'm just saying, we're done with Glad and the trolling. Let him have it's fun. Niggins is trolling, cool, got it. I don't need serious reporting from me. I would just shock to see that. Yeah, it was weird. It was very weird. Yeah, yeah, it was.

Did you guys, where do you guys fall on the Little Wayne fans? Taryn La Russell a new one. There's a clip of LaRussle going around where he's saying that he's the biggest Wayne fan in the world. Actually, I'll play the clip. He posted it because the first clip came out him saying, I love Wayne

but he'll be saying shit. But it was in a context of a longer conversation where he was basically saying he was his favorite rapper. So he, thank God, post his version. The full part. Because people will take a little snippet of something. Oh, of course.

You don't say. It just happened to us. The line. You know, one of the homies from you on. This is his post. It was like bars, bar, I used to have notebooks, bars. What was your introduction to Wayne? So there's two introductions to Wayne.

There's an introduction to Wayne that's through culture and your parents that you have no merit in. Right. And then there's an introduction when you get to like dive. And mine's, I think it was like the drought too. And that was like my reintroduction. I'm like, man, dedication mixtapes to droughts. New Jovan. This was pre no ceilins.

Yeah. The Carter one and Carter two were amazing. Yeah. I'm glad we're like positively talking about our last guest, shout on little Wayne so hard. I love Wayne so much, but I understand how someone could be like, man, this isn't the Wayne that like I remember. I had a moment in my journey where I had grew a disdain for Wayne just because I start

listening to everything. This is the part that was clinton. human and I'm like damn I love you because I learn how to rap through you but when you look at the contribution it's like man but he was also a kid Wayne was a kid

he was like 14 15 when he came out of man a kid like you know because think about it he was dropped out of school 13 years old right you know you're just like he was adopted by gangsters indoctrinated to a whole system of projects yeah like he gave everything

he could and I love Wayne and I found little versus this is what the clip. He had a conviction. You know, I had a moment in my journey where I had grew a disdain for Wayne just because I start listening to everything. Like I start maturing as a human and I'm like, damn, this nigga wasn't talking about nothing. For a long time.

I think that's a thing about that. You know, like as someone who like grow up in these communities and grew up with with homies who I seen want to be bloods because they follow him away and want to be gangsta and want to shoot all the gun bars. Right. Like I've seen the negative that he contributed to the community and I

had to look like, man, what are the songs where he really talked about something and gave? And out of a thousand song catalog, you know, it's my nuke on this end. Like Georgia Bush. And that dude body tie my hands. That's what I was going to say. Tie my hands is the only one I think of.

And that's the thing. It's like if I hug you once, but I got... You get the point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think both things can be true. Wayne is incredible. He maybe didn't have the deepest content in his raps, but that's okay. There's mad

rappers that don't have the deepest content in their rap sometimes. Like, he's done all of that. Yeah. Wayne first album got a song called Fuck the World. Go listen. The Russell. Very first album. He's talking about as a child. And

and raising a child and my girl's family putting me on child support and I'm gonna get like he spoke on life shit and he rapped. But I understand his take I have a very similar take about Eminem where you get very deep

and introspective when you want to but a lot of the times you're just rapping about how good you can rap. Right. Like Wayne also said I get paid by the letter like ABCD and spelled out the alphabet. You know what I'm saying?

You get both ends of the spectrum but you don't get to just discredit money. You said you have a similar tank of take about Eminem? Yes. Eminem's made a lot of raps about raps. Most rappers have made a lot of raps about raps. He also has a lot of deep songs.

I get that. I get that. That's why I'm not, I get where Ice was trying to go. He also probably has more introspective songs than most. That's why I was thrown off by your take. He has more interest, not, I'm not going to say than most, he has some of the better introspective songs. But if you look at his entire catalog.

Why would you say that most? I think a lot of the rappers that that have been at that level for a long time have more interesting. Like, Hove has more introspective songs than, to me. I mean, we want to, somebody count them up. I would agree, but I still think M got a lot. I'm just saying way more than way. Later, in the later part of M's career, it became a lot of just rapping about how well I rap. That's what I'll say.

That's true. And a lot of that turned off a lot of people. whereas but again you you stop and I think the same thing happened to Wayne you stop really experiencing a lot of things because you're so rich and successful and you can't do shit you kind of live in your bubble you can't experience life no more so what am I gonna rap about how much better at it I am than the rest of you niggas I believe that we are in the middle of some type of little Wayne hate train out there in the world like you can feel that I differently than you felt it before. Like with all of the Super Bowl talk, with that last album he put out. And the one before. Because that's where it starts.

There is a little Wayne H. Train going on. One. Two, maybe LaRussell does not know that there's a large portion of the internet that is doing this Rock Nation Young Money thing. Oh, yeah. So what it looks like is immediately after you get with, Rock Nation. There's a little bit of a La Russell hate train as what I was going to say.

Once someone goes from being the independent champion to getting a major look and a major deal, there's going to be some hate. And I think that this clip going viral slightly out of context, even though I think that what he said was what he said. He makes a good point, though. La Russell being an independent sign of with a major cool. La Russell being an independent sign of a rock nation, paints a totally different taste in people's mouths because already there's this rock nation hate. Yeah.

So just being attached to them, now you take that. And the next viral clip we see is you shitting on Wayne? He's not shitting on him, though. I get it. The way that clip came. I don't think him posting the long clip changed what the other clip said. Like, you just told us how much you love Lou Wayne. Granted, but you said what you said.

And I think this is LaRussle's first foray into seeing how clip culture works. and how it is when you're not just talking to your fan base and people that love you. Yeah. And I've seen him, he's been going on. He's been, he's been, LeRussell's been going on a tangent, like explaining this stuff and tweeting and posting the videos. But it's like, dog, it's nothing you, it's nothing you could do.

You really can't, when that happens. Once they go, you just got to come with the territory. And like he's saying, that's what I was trying to say, he's saying that these blogs are being paid. to paint a certain narrative of La Russell. La Russell, that's not true. I can assure you that that's not true. How they work is they all are monetizing stories.

So when they see one person post the story and it gets legs, they post the same story to get that. That's it. This is not like a form, a unified front against La Russell. Right. This is not that. You got with Rock Nation, there are more eyes and ears on you watching your moves and being critical.

You know that this is part of that. And Little Wayne is one of the greatest. rappers of all time who also never made his bones on being substantive like yeah he did it but that ain't where he took off yeah true it's not but he still and but he can do that though he's done it that's the no i'm just saying to the people that but i'm not mad and no i think i had that same how low howl Russell feels i felt some way about Wayne at a point or during his mixed day run when he was taking over the world it's like yo all this shit is flying but this thing is not talking about anything no

It just didn't matter because he was so great. It was good. He was so great at the nothing that it didn't matter. I didn't care. I just listened to some shit over the weekend with him. And to me, he's not rapping that much different than when he was rapping before. I think that the machine ain't behind him as much as it was in the past. So I think that's where the disconnect is.

He was going crazy on some of the shit I was listening to over the weekend. And it was newer shit. Oh, he's been killed. That just ain't get the- It didn't get the push that it would have gotten had he been still with a man. I'm not going to get the push. I keep saying rapping is like shooting a jump shot. If you knew how to rap and you knew how to shoot a jump shot,

when you were 60 years old, you'd be able to rap or shoot a jump shot. But rapping is only to 5% of being a rapper. So the beats ain't the same. The songs ain't the same. The push ain't the same. The marketing ain't the same. The money ain't the same. The Star Power ain't the same.

The features ain't the same. Nothing is the same. You buy yourself an island. Everyone has a career arc and it's okay. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Little Wayne is not going to be the 25. year old little way in top of the world little way forever he's still going to wrap amazing he's

not going to get the push because that's just the way that it is unfortunately but i think he's still been amazing yeah i was listening to me and i should have been talking about it he's been on a feature run quiet as kept just nobody cares it was he was going crazy it was it was what i don't like is the revisionist history part because what happens is what a lot of the fans do is once you're once you're once you're on the downside of that career arc that you spoke of yeah then they act like you were never hot. Correct. And we've seen this happen over and over.

We've seen it happen with 50. We've seen it happen with Nellie, with Jha. Like, now it's Wayne's turn with M. Like everybody, once they're off you, you were never hot. Like people are we not going to sit here and let y'all rewrite history. Wayne was the hottest thing smoking for a period of time. I don't care. And that's on the Wayne side of things, right?

Like you make a lot of great points. But taking Wayne out of this and the consumer may not get it, the artists, the entertainers, the emcees, the rappers, and some people got to learn this, you got to earn the right to even talk about people. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that's why they're pulling up La Russell's discography or all his 40 albums.

They're pulling up his funny outfits. They pulling up every time he was in a jolly old mood or doing some fucking fun, happy time shit. They pulling it up because who the fuck are you to be talking about Lil Wayne? It don't matter if you write or this is how you feel or this is your experience. You have to earn the right to speak about certain people. Little Wayne is on that list. Absolutely.

I agree. No matter how you feel about him, you can't just sit down and get all willy-nilly about Duane Carter's name. You can be a little more careful with how you word it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you could have said the same thing without it being like that. Like that. He used the word distilled.

Stain. Yeah. Like, think about it. You're a rapper, dog. You use the word disdain over Wayne's cantalogue. And I put a lot of shit on him that, like, his friends joining gangs and shit like that on Wayne, which is not really fair. Yeah, I don't think that's fair. So as I heard the clip, I had to go look.

I just want to see when La Russell was born. He was born in 94, which means... Wait, what? Yes. That put it in perspective to me right there. Shut up. He's born in 94. The Russell was born in 1994.

Yes. Or that was the name of the hospital. No, my name. Born in 1994. So when I see that, now I hear everything differently, my nigga. Yeah, the guy's a fool. Oh, that's why he think he could change the world. The niggas that was born in 94, they are changing the world.

That's not, see, I don't even like that because that's, that means he was probably 13, 14 during Wayne's peak. And that's like when you should be soaking all this shit in. You know what I mean? It depends. You just now getting into it, bro. You wasn't outside. You just. But you just getting into it.

True. You barely get your feet away. He wasn't outside. I disagree. He was not. If he was born in 94, 2014, he was 20. I'm not talking about 2014. No, I'm just giving you an example.

2014. It's 2014 and the run is over. I don't care about 2014. Yeah, I'm talking about 05, 06. He should have been listening to nothing but Wayne in that era. Yeah, you 13. As a 13, 14 year old, that's when you consume. But you not.

It ain't. You get it. You don't get it that. You're not hitting you to say. That may be true. You don't get to. I just say I grew up and learned that back then. He said my parents.

He would say this too, and he said my parents, it's the way your parents put you in. I'm like, your parents. How old is this, nigga? He did say that. But I just do it. That's where it stood out to me right there.

So you wasn't, again, bro, I know that A, like I know hot boys Wayne, but because I'm older. I remember that. Right. Then into Wayne's solo run. You don't know, you started off by saying dedication.

Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. So, all right, you're telling me, you're telling me your entry point. You don't get the talk. Yeah, you a pup when Wayne is introspective. You can't talk. That's true.

You're a pup when Carter 1 is out, when Carter 2 is out. Yeah, you're a pup. Sorry, LaRessel. I know you probably feel like this podcast is hating on you too. No. I've said your name more in the past two months than I have ever before. But I'm rooting for you. Yes.

I'm rooting for you. but you just got to be a little more aware. Yeah, you got to be a little. I mean, back to your point of him kind of just getting the shine, he's got to learn some media training, I guess. Yeah, this is what comes with it. Yeah, yeah. You can't just say what you want to say about niggas

that sold over 10 million records on one album. One of the greatest rappers of all time. Fam, I saw people saying, The Russell got 40 albums and I can't name one song. Yeah, but I don't think that's fair either. It's not fair. It's not fair, but it's also. He should be able to say,

yo, I grew up and realized this person wasn't really talking about all of the things. That's his right. But if you don't, but you got to say it right. You're responsible for how it comes off. And you can't say he ain't never talked about this when he has talked about it.

You just don't know it. I think that's being semanticie, but, well, that's a big part of your point, though. If you said Wayne ain't never talked about shit, he don't get introspective and I can run off some introspective Wayne records as his fans started doing right away running down a list of,

yo, this is interesting. You can't say I grew up on this nigger. but he never did this. Maybe you didn't really grow up on them. Maybe you got introduced later on on and you just, from your point, that's what you know. Yo, and also for rappers, because they wouldn't pull up some La Russell songs

where he's not talking about nothing. I'm not a La Russell catalog expert. Who knows? But I will say, there's a point in every rapper career where you need to master how to rap about nothing too. True. Like, you can't just be every time you come out. You join a Lucas with the fucking dual sides.

That's exhausting too. Yeah, we don't want to hear it. Yeah, the fans don't want to hear that. Rap about nothing. Well, be able to. Yeah, be able to. Sometimes. Have it in your wheelhouse.

A little bit of both. We need a little nice balance. There you go. Hard turn from music to Michael Jordan winning, whatever he want. What did he win? NASCAR or something. A day before his birthday, a champion being a champion. But the story is the scene with Michael Jordan attempting to get the ice out of the little boy's clothing.

Is that what was happening? It looked absolutely. That's what was happening. There were chunks of ice trapped in the little boys' shorts, and he was trying to break the ice and wipe it down to get it out of his shorts. But I got to tell you, I'm no NASCAR connoisseur, so I had no idea when I first watched it. But I also didn't assume that Michael Jordan was doing some freaky shit on TV.

This guy has won a championship a million times. If anybody know Cameras is on, it's him. I don't think he's doing some freaky shit with this kid. Now what I did think, my second thought was, okay, bad time to break ice out of the little boys. But with all of this Epstein, Epstein, weird list and emails. But Mike, though, Mike is Mike. Mike is Mike. What are you going to say to Michael Jordan?

Oh, that's a big deal. Yeah, it's a big deal. Super big deal. He was super excited to winning. Congratulations to Michael Jordan. But the internet, again, like, what are you all trying to say about Michael Jordan, yo? Yes, it looked funny. but y'all can't assume that Michael Jordan

is fondling a kid's buttocks. I mean, hold on now. We didn't know a lot of this shit about a lot of the motherfuckers, so that's why they're saying that. Like, a lot of these ultra-rich motherfuckers was playing them games that niggas didn't know about. So now you see this, it is bad timing. That's all it is.

It's a bad optic. It looked very funny, and people are like, oh, you down too? I think it's a public and the people we have to be a little more responsible. dog yeah and not just that it's certain people that if somebody came forward and told me x y z was doing these things i'd be like yeah wouldn't put it past them but if the nigger told me michael jordan is rubbing up some little kid on the side of on t and t on tv my nigger like

that's just something different bro like i i just think that we have a responsibility as people with the microphone i know they get on us about some of the topics but of course some of this shit just come on don't have a brain yeah you have a brain yeah yeah yeah Let's bring back some critical thinking. Tend every day life. That shit is gone. It's over for critical thinking. Be internet, be internet.

But it is a bad time to break some ice cubes out of that little white ass. Out of some little white boy ass. It's scary times out in with shit. It is. It is. What? No, you right. It's crazy.

Shout to Michael George, man. Isaiah Thomas thought he had you dead to write. That was all Isaiah Thomas needed to see, boy. He was about to start a parade. About to start a million man march on Mike. Oh, shit. You're so stupid, though. Oh, man, what else?

What else is important now, then? What else is important? Needs our attention. Needs a hot take. Well, we was, I mean, it's a little serious because the optics from the microjointed shit we were talking about. Are you all familiar with Life Touch? No.

I don't have young children. I know there. Life Touch takes the pictures for a lot of schools. When your kids go to school, get their pictures taken throughout the year, whatever. Life Touch is the company responsible. for that. Okay. For a lot of places.

Okay. I forgot who it was when we were little. But you know the niggas that come on. I know this company. Yeah. I know the company. Life touch appeared. And I know what they were doing, too.

Well, yeah. Life touch appeared in some of the Epstein information that came out. And a subsidiary of one of the companies that was in the Epstein shit. Still, back. Yeah. Scared. I mean, these places have photos of all your children. Every kid in the,

fucking country. Pretty much, bro. So imagine that. That's where we are today in society that we can't even trust the motherfuckers that's coming to take pictures of your kid for school. They got the negatives. Right. Yeah.

You know what I mean? So I had seen it on the internet maybe like a year and a half ago. Like, dog, y'all need to just go to your own private photographer and have them start taking the pictures of your kids now instead of trusting the entities that the school is hiring or that the county is hiring because they just hiring the most popular niggas that got the money. most, you know what I'm saying? But they still hold a lot of negatives.

So they said that, like, it could be issues of them putting your kids in different costumes, different uniforms, all that shit, because they got the face of your kid. Right. And it's just, we're in a scary time, my nigga. All that's scary is scary. Everything is scary now. And now I think about it because, like, even at the school the kids go to now, like, anytime you sign up or something, you're signing off.

Like, there's a page now. You're giving us permission to photographic child. Right. Giving us permission to video this and giving us. but you don't know what the fuck is going on with this, what they're doing with that now? You know, they'll say to use it in promo on a, right, on whatever. It's the same way that meta and all the rest of these companies.

Everybody. Yeah, everybody. TOS. Yeah, but it's different when it's your kids. Oh, I agree. I completely agree. No, they're saying, stop putting your kids' faces on your Facebook. Stop putting your kids' faces on your Instagram.

I didn't tell them. All that shit too. I've been saying. Oh, they got mine. Listen to it. They got mine. I was ecstatic from the baby shower to the reveal sin. What sin had a lot.

Let's do some balloons. We were wearing all white like Jesus, Nazareth, Nazareth or something. They got both my kids. If they want to pick them up, they know what it looked like. Sorry. And that's without life touch. And if you're going to do that, the least you can do is make sure them school pictures come back right. Oh, trash.

The school pictures have changed from when I was in school. You could tell down how no patience with the kids. Like, yo, you little niggas, stop crying. Hurry up. Sit up. It's back. It's back. Yeah, no.

It's fucked up. They've been trash. It is. Speaking of school, Dr. It's up and running. Said he finished his school. Much to someone's dismay You know what I mean?

Let me hear a word from the good doctor man He says Thank you to all my donors around the world I know it has been seven long years I know it has been seven long hard Tough grueling years And we are here baby The school is absolutely done

Let's go, Omar The school is fully done The school is completely done Talk to the non-believers On Tuesday because government is closed on Monday to celebrate white supremacy presidency. The government is closed on Monday to celebrate white supremacy presidency. But on Tuesday, I'll contact in the city to request an inspection of the Frederick

Douglas and Marcus Garvey Elementary School and Jim. Brothers and sisters, thank you for those of you who stood with me. Not the fakes and the phonies. Not those who act like you supported me, but didn't trust me, didn't believe me. You listen to the struggle streamers and the scammers. You believed them. Okay? I want to think the real...

That's somebody blowing his phone up. That's not me. I know it has been seven long years. I know it has been seven long, hard, tough, grueling years. But we are here, baby. The school is absolutely done. The school... I want to thank the real people, brothers and sisters.

I want to think... the real people brothers and sisters I want to thank the real people for standing with me all right we got it yeah round of applause man that's hit the round of applause

friend or enemy of the show I'm not certain where it stands but that's our guy Dr. Umar says that school is open by the time this recording is being heard the non-believers said it would never get done

they said it didn't take this long to open up a school they said he was scamming and running numbers and being a con artist. They said a lot. And sure enough, he said that school is open. So congratulations to Dr. Umar. Whenever I get a free moment,

I will go up there and see for myself what's going on and see how many kids we got up in that motherfucker and see what learning is happening. Sure. See if we got some school buses. I'm going to go see. I'll speak at the school. I will.

I definitely will. If he asks me to, I go up there and speak. Do a little turkey drive or something. Come on, man. A turkey drive. Shout to Dr. Umar. I can't wait to see what is next for your school and your opening. What else?

What else? What else? What else? Go ahead. I was just going to say Obama said the aliens are real. I don't know how that one's got brushed under the covers this whole week. Because he said it. Then he kind of walked in back.

Well, he just said we ain't got him. Thank you to all my donors are. No, no. Sorry about that. Thank you to all my. What's going on? I was trying to find the clip where Obama said it was aliens out. bitch and now I'm having some trouble

but he was on the podcast he was shooting the shit he was he was like going with the flow of the podcast having a good time but he forgot who he was right and he asked him do you believe in aliens he said yes I believe aliens exist but you are Barack Obama former president of the world so people of US

so people are listening to you so then he saw all the fuss and he said all right let me clear this up there we go to which he said I can read that let's see he said Thank you to Omar

Barack Barack says I was trying to stick with the spirit of the speed round but since it's gotten attention let me clarify statistically the universe is so vast that the odds are good

there's life out there Oh you walked it back But the distances between solar systems are so great that the chances we've been visited by aliens is low And I saw no evidence during my presidency that extraterrestrials have made contact with us.

Really? End quote. Ladies and gentlemen, on a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you think Barak is capping? He's capping. He's capping. It's all capped.

New era. 59.50. What I was talking about, dog. Yeah. Boy, say more. Give it to me. Nigger, the government just opened up a whole entire division for aliens

to extraterrestrials. It's a government agency, so we're not going to open up a government agency for some shit that don't exist or that we don't know. I mean, they would. And they would. This particular, you know, we could fund some money over there.

Yeah. We can do that. I cannot believe that aliens have visited here and didn't put Tyra Banks underneath the cell. I cannot believe that Tyra Banks is allowed to walk free and still be like a beautiful cover model and like, this girl is crazy. Selling ice cream.

It be the pretty bitches, though. Nobody talks about it. Deep word. Pretty bitches are fucking nuts and evil and mean no good to the world. They are only for themselves. Yeah.

Jesus. I'm like, no, man. Tyrant Banks, we need to make a citizen's arrest. Dead ass. I can't wait to watch this shit. Y'all said she wasn't even apologizing. That's the part that got me.

Like, at least own some of them. Oh, please. You know, I know. Fucking Tyra Banks. Tuck! Tuck! Holy shit. Oh, my God.

Sack of shit. Dead ass. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's nuts. Did y'all see this Kevin Durant, alleged burner situation? Kevin Durant, burner. I've seen the story floating around. I did no due diligence on trying to see if this was true or not.

I just read some of the messages and assumed that this could not be Kevin Durant. also didn't see any proof that told me that this was Kevin Durant's burner. I get it's a hot story and it very well could be his burner because we've caught him on burners before. I just need more than what I read, which was I miss being on the team with Bill Simmons because he passed me the ball. Like that doesn't confirm to me that Kevin Durant is saying these things. Was that the main confirmation?

The main evidence? I don't know what the main evidence is because I never fact check this. You know, I get my shit from Shams and KD. Nobody was reporting on this stuff. Yeah. It was a lot, yo. It was some funny shit. Yeah.

It was hilarious. This shit was funny. Like, roasting teammates and, let me see if I can find it. Did he call someone a cocaine bear or some shit? Like, yeah. Westbrook. He's too caught. See, this isn't that right that we've seen there laughing and just putting this on KD.

Yeah, that's the proper proof that this is Kevin D. I said allegedly. I said allegedly. But. So you mean the internet never even found out that this was Kevin Durant? All right, well, it's other. They're just laughing at the funny shit, my nigga. Like calling Westbrook a cocaine beer,

nigga, that's funny. I'm not doing the same. That is funny. That's funny. It ain't Kevin Durant saying it. It's just some regular nigger saying it. We don't got proof. But if you put it in the context of maybe KD played with the niggers

or whatever the case may be, it just makes it funny. I don't think it's no accuracy to it or validity. It's just funny to me. I believe it. I'm not going to hold you. I've seen a couple of, like, and then you know how. you'll get people that they'll go find the old tweet, somebody called the shit out from like months

or a year ago or something like that. So there was a tweet from like 2024, and someone was like, yo, what the hell is Kevin Durant's burner? This is when it said he had burners. And somebody tweeted that exact same page as the burner. And a lot of the, like, what you sent me is, it was other shit. I'm trying to find it now.

But a lot of this is like critiquing teammates in a way that you might do if, I don't want, like how we talk in a group chat? Can we get some examples of what Kevin Durant said? We keep describing what he's like what he said. But let's hear what he said. Because when I read it, I didn't, I don't know. I don't know.

It just didn't sound like Kevin Durant to me. All right. Let me see. The alleged account name was get off my Dickerson. Coach called that play to pass to Alpi, L.O. I'm gonna turn the ball over with this shitty-ass team. I don't give a fuck. Your franchise player can't shoot or defend.

That's a way bigger issue than my turnover. Remember, these guys are your future. These rocket fans are hurt and starting... It will cut so off. I just can't trust Jabari to make a fucking shot or get a shot or get a stop. Just don't give him a tech. He's low-key, R-word.

Again, a lot of this shit is two dictators. Stalin and Hitler. Mussolini and Kim John. John Un, the sons of my team when we lose and books team when we win. Like, this sound like the nigger might be in here just talking to some people he cool with and getting his shit off from the other page. Okay. The one that you said, I swear I miss Ben Simmons, at least that nigger would give me the ball.

I could see the joke in that. If with everything else. Not only can I see all of these jokes, but they all sound true. I just don't believe that Kevin Graham. As an onlooker, you can make those jokes. Yeah, they're not tough to surmise. Like, I got it. I just don't think that that's Kevin Durant doing it.

But if I'm proven wrong, then I'll take it. Again, I did not research this. I did not fact check this. I don't really give a fuck about it. But it's funny. It's funny. It's very funny. This shit was hilarious.

And the way, and then, because it was All-Star, so they're showing him, like, this is happening in real time. So then you see the, like, the players in the back, or the players at the arena for All-Star, he's on his phone, firing away. So it's like, wait, these shit is really happening. This is this nigga tweeting now. Like, it's shit like that. This shit was very

funny to watch it unfold. And basketball, Twitter was in an uproar. I had a blast shit watching. Like I said, I do believe it. If it's not, it's not. I think that was him. Allegedly.

Don't sue me. Your first team with the rocket, you're getting some of this off? I mean, your first year with the rocket, you're getting some of this off? I ain't happy Listen, ain't anybody gonna say shit to Kevin DeRance I mean he could say

What the fuck he wanted to say That part too And anybody gonna say shit Just Kevin DeRane He looked great in the All-Star game Yeah And Kauai went absolutely nuts out there I thought the two of them together

Was gonna pull it off Yeah he looked amazing Because they were saying That third game Coah just carried us Through the second game It's KD time He just was missing

Yeah He was missing Um well KD If that's your burn And get your shit off big dog Like who am I the judge And that's the beauty of it being a burner.

You know, that wasn't me. Well, they ain't a burner if they keep finding you, though. But it wasn't me. Oh, yeah. You got what I'm saying? Shaggy's face. It always works. It wasn't me.

Big Shaggy. What else? What else? What else? Tyson is supposed to be fighting Floyd. April 25th. Mike Tyson, Floyd, Mayweather in an exhibition somewhere.

In Congo. The Congo, yeah. And that Congo. That's why I'm going back to school. because that shit said the Dominican Republic and I stopped reading Oh the Republic of Congo

Oh yeah That's what it said The Republic of Congo It's a few A couple of republics Brian in Dior That's strange I mean

If I had to pick somebody to Dominicans I'd probably go out there I'm about to say It'd be a good spot to go pick a fight at Yeah not bad Not Yeah yeah

Take the fight at Dior shit two fights one night Just do it. More two. You have a fight first and then you get joked. Again, this is one of those. It's like a nothing burger for me. Mike Tyson.

I'm a fan of Mike Tyson. He's a friend of the show. He's a friend of my other show. He sent autograph boxing gloves up here. I have nothing negative to say about Mike Tyson. And he could probably beat me up if I said something mean. Yeah, easily. Probably, right?

And again, I'm a fan of these niggas get in a bag. Like, yo, I dedicated my life to this sport. I carry injuries from this sport And now I could go Make some money off of the sport That I blood, sweat and tears for Fuck that I'm not mad at that And I can do it in a way

Where I'm not really putting myself at risk no more You know what I'm saying We get all of these rules in here For the exhibition We're gonna sell it We're gonna make a shit ton of money And regardless of what we say We're gonna watch it

True You know is Floyd broke or not I'm tired of trying to figure it out The internet tell me one thing True then my better judgment says another Nick said Michael Jackson was broke for him He wasn't nowhere near I don't know

I don't think that Floyd is broke I don't think he's broke I think that he has expensive habits So when a nice little bag comes across To fight and not really fight He's got to take it Yeah I don't think he broke I just think he's a I do believe that story

About when they tried to keep him in Dubai though And wouldn't let him leave I believe that too I mean things like that speak Above my pay grade All of it is above my pay grade Anybody that lost fucking nine figures Or made nine figures

Then just rock out, yo do you? I'll see you when I get there See you when I get there Do what you want. Until then, I'm just talking shit. Are we going to watch this fight? Absolutely.

I hope to be busier on a Saturday night. It don't matter. You still going to watch it. I hope not. This will be watched. I hope not. This is in April. And we got a long winter

so April 25th should be like that first. It might be. The weather's really breaking and the sun dresses are out. I'll be damned. Oh, wait, that's my baby birthday weekend. I'm not going to watch. Yeah, I'll be damned if I'm saying, hey, meet me at Highwood. Let's see if they've got the fight on.

I don't give a fuck about this fight. I don't. I don't like that about podcast. And I got to pretend to care about something. No, no. You don't have to put. You don't got to care. You might not care.

Niggers are going to watch the fight, bro. Just the names are going to have niggas. Dog, as soon as somebody win, going to post it on Instagram and I'm a no. And if something dramatic happened, they're going to post that there too. I'll be damned if I'm running from, what if I'm bowling?

I got to run to the bar now to fucking seat. I'm not doing that. No, no, sorry. Sorry Floyd Mayweather and my time. I value my time more than I'm not. I'm not. This is going to be on Netflix? No, I didn't see.

No, it's going to be on Betflix or some shit. Netflix does have a fight coming. All they do? They got their first live MMA event. It's Rhonda Rousey. Gina Carano. Okay. In May.

So. Then I'm found Rhonda Rousey from under Rock somewhere. Now I was about to say you want to talk about somebody maybe being broke. Rhonda might have ran out. She was getting that WWE money for a little bit. I ain't seen her there in a minute. It might be that. Rhonda is not a name.

I wake up out of bed and say, I wonder if she's broke. Like I never pondered how much she actually made. No, but until you see her name just come from somewhere, bro, she was the biggest person and female boxing marks. She got, however you want to label it, she was the one. But she got knocked into another realm. I know.

Yeah. I thought she's just been busy in another dimension. She's over there getting busy. Yeah. Like paradise. They knocked her into a whole other sphere. She's a bizarre world. Yeah.

So I never thought, hey, she must be going through hard times because she broke. I thought her face is just healing up from that shit that happened. And she might not be going through hard times, bro. And I'm shutting up because she could beat me too. That's a fact. With them getting into their live sporting event bag And they're giving out that money like that We're going to go get the biggest names we could get

So for Rhonda being who she is to MMA She might not be broke But we we try to establish our footing in live events They just did the boxing joint They're doing live shows So yeah, let me go get Rhonda Rousey For my first MMA joint I'm going to pay a bag

I don't think that it implies that she's broke Now this fight was somewhere else maybe yeah. Floyd Tyson wouldn't do nothing but piss me off because you're not going to get what you want. Well, yeah, but Floyd was always must-see TV.

Still one of the greatest all-time, especially the greatest defensive fighter. If either one of them hit each other, I'm gonna be mad. It's 150 mil, bro. If Floyd hit Mike Tyson, I'm gonna say, hey, what the fuck is on your mind? And if Mike Tyson hit Floyd, I'm gonna say,

all right, you bug it out, buddy. 150 mil. That winner gets a buck, The loser gets $50 million. Let's say, I don't know how many rounds it says, but let's say they go six rounds. I want them to make all the money in the world. This is not about that to me. I'm saying enough Floyd Mayweather fights to, I think that nobody's going to get hit in this fight.

That's my right. I don't feel like I will be entertained by this. Somebody will. And the last time I saw Mike Tyson an exhibition match, it looks like he pulled his punches and not try to take this niggins head off. Paulson. Anthony Joshua made up for that one. He got him right.

He got a right. He got us right. He paid him. He paid us back. Yeah, he fixed him up. He fixed him right up. He fixed it for the blacks. Yeah, he did.

Yeah, I'm not watching this. I'd rather watch my fucking drunk white boys on Instagram fight. Like, I catch that algorithm. I watch one little fight video and then that algorithm gets it going where niggas just be fighting. Them white boys been like,

come on, I'll take you on. The whole lobby. Come on, you want a piece of me? I'll fucking take you on. I'll take you on. I love that shit. I'll take you all. I love white boy, fight, hypertalk.

That's amazing. Oh, man. What else needs our attention? Ice, do you want to take a moment to reply to hitman Hala? Uh-oh. Who had words about our commentary about the Ghi Gadi incident as well as academics commentary about it? I'm not sure if what he had to say about us is really applicable.

It wasn't. That was, I didn't, he replied to me? Not you directly. No, because I replied to his post. I don't know that he does. No, yeah. Oh, okay. No, I replied to his post and I just was like,

I said, Hitman's my guy. I said, but there's no way he saw our conversation if that was his takeaway. Because his takeaway was that all of these mainstream platforms are never fuck with battle rap. They don't talk about it when all the good things are going on. So now that there's a negative, we are highlighting the negative, laughing at battle rappers, saying that they all broke. And he was saying the battle rappers, all they have is each other. So they need to stick together because none of these mainstream outlets fuck with him.

And that's farthest from the truth up here. Yeah, I feel like we cover battle rap a lot. We caught him. Yeah. Like, we've had battle rappers. We've discussed these events. We discussed the ups, the down, like, we discussed it. It's just, it was news.

I would say that we discussed battle rap as far as a quote unquote, mainstream platform goes. More than any of them. More than the rest of them. More than anybody. And on a more balanced level than anybody. We don't sit there. We don't just talk about every time something bad because I saw, I saw, I saw some, Somebody else say, yo, the only time y'all talk about battle rap was either this or the papoose and easy to block captain thing, which we didn't really talk about.

Nika, Easy to block captain has been a easy set up here. Twice. Surf is a co-host. Like, fam, come on. And, I mean, I don't even want to reply to any. I don't want to dignify that because it's just stupid. What I thought when I saw what hit me and holla had to say, and shout out to him, I like hitman holl a lot. That's my guy.

But what I thought was, oh, he missed the, he missed the ball on some of this. I personally was never having a battle rap conversation when I was talking about Gichigadi It wasn't I wasn't I wasn't I was having a betterment of black men Conversation I don't give a fuck about Gigi Gadi battling no more If he never battling it I don't care I want him and everybody else to just be in a position

Where they can make better decisions and not be faced with some of the desperation that leads us to Making those types of decisions I wouldn't ever tell my bad rapist man It ain't but it ain't but 11 of y'all I care about in real life too. I mean, let me be clear on that. Because he was saying, oh, y'all, I had Gigi Goddy on the couch. And now laughing at him. No, I don't think we were laughing at him. No.

I wouldn't laugh at him, but him running away was funny. That was funny because he can't run. And that car day was in the Camry truck. I'd never even seen a Camry truck before. That was funny that that little Camry truck couldn't get nowhere. That was funny. but what happened and what he's going through

I don't think that it's funny at all especially when he's got these interviews when he was on flip shit basically detailing the details of this crime and he said yo

I don't do this no more because I'm on my rap shit but back when Smack wasn't taking care and because I had to do what I got to do okay so you have the where it though but that kind of went through my point that was my point

we wasn't making fun of him we had a spirited argument amongst black men about the the options available for this particular type of scenario. We were sitting up here having a spirited debate. We weren't cracking jokes on that nigga. No, not at all. So I just didn't appreciate it. I didn't like the show's name through you being thrown in that conversation of y'all just

sitting up there to highlight the negative and laugh at them and this type of environment. I didn't like that. And that's why I'm like, maybe you just saw a clip. They might have just saw you laughing at the run part or something. But I'm going to say something. And, yo, you watch the whole. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt because I like him and assume he just didn't see everything and hear everything. And I do believe his heart is in the right place with wanting the commentary surrounding Gichi to just be helpful and respectful.

So I don't have nothing bad to say about him and holl. He's saying what he was supposed to say. I think we said what we were supposed to say. And that's that. Yo, listen, this is coming. Yo, totally outside of battle rap. I don't think he know or some people know, like, I speak to the 11 battle rappers that I like in real life about real life shit

and offer as much help and guidance as support and support as I possibly could. like you're talking about Gigi Gotti running in some CVS and Walgreens when they was closed like that's a big niggas surf called me

from Stegman with helicopters in the sky saying yeah OG got a couple seconds I did it I said you got the same call I was just like yo yo I got a couple seconds

before they come up in here I'm in Jersey City I'm with a little yarmine we was having fun but as you can see I'm on the news there's helicopters in the sky and I just want to

tell you, I love you, talk to in a couple years. Damn. Yeah. Like the conversation that I was having here about Gichi is not very different from some of the conversations I had with my brother in real life. And y'all know that's family to me. That ain't bad. A rap.

Service my family. I speak his mother. Yeah. I'm not telling, treating y'all no different than niggas I love. Sorry that it don't come off with all dressings and the fluff. Sorry about that. I do hope that Gichi got you got it as well. And hopefully that would be the last time

that he goes through robbing CVS's and fucking Walgreens or whatever the fuck he was doing. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I got on that. I told I used to bring it up, but I hijacked it so I could talk to him now.

I know. I know what it was. It was a trick. It was a trick. I don't have anything else that is like burning a hole in my heart, mind, soul, spirit or body. I think we did a pretty good job.

I appreciate Mark for coming through even with his emergencies that he's juggling and dealing with, but I know he had to come in and get that. And he was about to let LeBron have it too. But you lucked out. Yeah, yeah. If he didn't have some way to be, he's going to let LeBron have it. He definitely won't.

Yeah, but he's gone, so we don't have to bring it up. You're going to run it back. Don't you worry? Well, on one of his platforms. That's the thing. On this thing of ours, we're doing it together. You know, you want to get to the shop. Huh?

To the shop. Get a haircut. You want to be up there with the fake hair cut. Get a haircut. Look at your little haircut. I don't give a fuck. I don't give too fuck about this shop. Nothing about Brown, boy.

That's your man. I don't know if that's true. What? What is your saying about me and LeBron? I know if Bron is like Ms. Jenkins to you, but nobody not say nothing about Miss Jenkins. No, I don't think that's true. And you actually stuck up for Michael Jordan today.

That was pretty, that was. Nah, you've been like that since Brian posted them listening to your, to the, Uncle Joe here. Yeah. That's, that's what it is. Yeah. Damn, kid, you're selling ass for a list. I'll keep the air, you know.

That's what artists have to do, unfortunately. That's why you happen. It's a big deal. You got to sell some ass. It's a big deal. I forgot LeBron was that in arm back. Go ahead, LeBow. Yeah, that's what that.

I remember that. Chowell, tell you. Katie does a lot of that too, man. That's Katie. Yeah, that's true. Well, KD actually wraps, so I get it. Yeah. And LeBron just on some love shit for the love.

I don't have anything else that I need to do here. Let's see. Ray J. Ray J. Stop. I'm not doing this with Drew. I'm not doing this with Ray J. You're not going to trick me into Ray J bleeding from the eyes.

I'm not doing it. Ray J, I want you to be alive. I don't know what you got going on, but I love you. I pray for you. That's it. There you go. The fuck is going on, man.

Anything else? Not at all. That would be it. I think we did it, I think we did it. I'm cool, man. They ain't going to fucking beat me to death with the shenanigans of the world.

I can't. No, I'm with you. I can't. I can't. I can't. Why not? Why not, man? Started with Marvin.

I'm ending with Marvin. It's a good time. Rest in peace, Jesse Jackson and Bobby Duvall. And Marvin Gay. Hey. Listen, man. Hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you, man. Couldn't have done this without y'all.

sweet and kind people or half the audience keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there until the next time I bid you a do farewell adio seriva dirchi hostel a vista arvois so long goodbye

or simple head now will suffice remember life is a series of moments and moments pass so let's make this one last as if it's all we have but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure,

the stagnant women want to travel and their closed-minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you with Tylenol, you might need it. You have it. You have it. Chalk out for the week, man. Anything interesting?

Nah. Never that. Nope. Never, right? Never that. Why would you guys be doing anything interesting this week? Nah, man.

You know I'm being bed by five like you. Yeah, man, yeah. That's probably what's happening. We probably all got the same sleep schedule. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Some of us are probably just more discreet than others, right? What's the sleep?

Sleep? Just discreet. Descreet. What's sleep? What are you? What are you fucking? Discreep. With sleep.

That's what I meant. Yo, the down out there, man. I ain't got shit going on this week either. I'm chilling. This time, we'll be back this weekend. Same time, same place. Till they say head on a swivel at all times And we'll holler man

Hey, they'll never heard of Joe bud JVP JVP JPP Where are to be without the JVP We'll fold that up right now