The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 914 | "Cult Fish"
Episode Date: March 25, 2026The JBP kicks off its latest episode diving into JAY-Z's interview with GQ and why they disagree with some of the things the rapper said about Hip-Hop (23:23). J. Cole finally sits down with Cam'Ron (...1:02:48), JAY-Z adds a third show 'Extra Innings' (1:12:40), and the footage of Justin Timberlake's DWI arrest has been released (1:12:40). Mary J. Blige tells a story about Chaka Khan (1:30:30), Shyne doubles down about Brandy (1:40:02), and the viral video of Maryland's basketball coach yelling at a player (2:04:29). Also, The Roast of Kevin Hart (2:16:32), Part of the Show returns (2:31:37), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: http://www.patreon.com/joebudden
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You're laughing.
I'm here to find your heart.
Look at it.
I'm more than just an option.
You look like that, boy.
Look at you.
Look at you trying to stare off in the sun, boy.
Look at us.
Look at us, boy.
Hey, hey.
Hey.
I was reading the board, bro.
Oh, ha.
Hello.
Hey, you guys.
What are you?
What up, y'all?
What's Bobby?
How we feel?
Oh, my God.
I feel good.
He more than just an option.
Look at this, nigga.
Best I ever had face that,
a dick.
Because she hold me down.
Anytime I hate her up.
Good day, sir.
What you got that?
You look like Marvin.
Fuck that, dude.
Why you look like you who the song was about?
You know what up?
Man, Marvin in the face.
Like Marvin.
Oh, it's good to see y'all.
It's good to see everybody.
It's good to be here, man.
Good to be here.
See, my brothers.
Yeah, look all good.
Yeah, look all good.
Yeah, look all good.
What's up, man?
He said I was following his, you know, I got to butcher.
You had it first.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Said no one ever.
I know.
This is the one time that it's been said.
I don't know if it's true.
Now, he's been on the bedazzled.
Yeah, I mean.
Fire.
Now, he's talking about the brand.
I know the fire the fire.
Well, you think Slip was wearing bedazzles before Joe button?
Repeat that sentence.
Repeat that sentence.
All right.
You're the most bedazzles this stuff.
I'm a result.
Yeah.
Sure.
Fuck you, boss.
You're the most bedazzled.
Yeah, that's here, man.
You got it.
Look at what niggas fight to be.
He's got to be first and everything.
Mark, what's up, man?
Nothing, man.
Life is good.
All the time.
I have no complaints, man.
Good, good.
yesterday my wife
Why you so calm man
What's up?
Yeah I'm just chilling
I'm in a good
I'm in a good head
I had a little cold too
But I was trying to clear my throat
But
My wife
My son is off for two weeks
Apparently his school
Takes two weeks off
And my wife signed him up
For a spring break
At camp
Except she didn't sign him up
So when I drove there yesterday
And got there
He wasn't on the list
Oh shit
So I did everything I could
To convince
I was pulling money
Out of my party
Yeah
Yeah, you got it.
Take this little.
I was like, please.
They weren't having it.
So I spent yesterday trying to find a new place for him for two weeks.
So I signed him up.
Hotel?
Yeah, I would.
I registered him for a whole new school.
They think he goes there now.
And I signed him out.
I'll pull him after two weeks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they were like, but you need all.
I got a doctor.
Yes, I went to a doctor.
I got a school.
I got immunizations.
Whatever that I don't have, I'll make up.
I dropped him off today.
He seemed like he liked it.
Nice.
Yeah, I didn't stay long.
Crazy.
But, yeah, I dropped him at the door.
You talked about to do in drool.
I didn't drive.
I gave him all the paperwork and stuff.
I gave him the check, but then I was out.
I'll tell you what the spot is.
I gave them the check.
Yeah, I gave this to Sister Mary Clare.
You know, you stupid.
Take them.
Yeah, that's pretty good for the next two weeks.
Yeah, that's great.
That's great.
I almost had a heart attack when I brought them to that school yesterday.
Nah.
Yeah.
I feel like it was a little personal, too.
I feel like they could have did it.
Mm-hmm.
You ain't pulling enough money out.
Yeah.
You ain't pulling up money.
That's all that mean.
And did you have on one of your political hoodies?
No, shit.
I didn't wear yarmicombed them over.
I was like, please.
Oh, it's only here you do that.
Awesome.
I'm wearing a good shirt today.
This is a good one.
This is uncontroversial.
I stand with Sudan.
Who doesn't stand with Sudan?
He's crazy.
That's how he do it.
He weighed a shirt.
He figured it out.
We asked about it, then he gets to say this shit that.
I just learned where it's,
Sudan is.
Me too.
Well, it's a civil war.
That's the point.
So, like, saying you stand with Sudan
don't mean that you walk right into it.
He tricked it.
He tricked us.
It's like when I go to my girl
about something that's been on my mind
and somehow it flips into,
like I saw this trap.
Like, how did this happen?
Shout out to the people of Sudan.
Yes.
Indeed.
Yes, Mark.
And the people in your lovely Jersey neighborhood
that you're going to your rich suburb
that you're living in.
This guy's the grade.
That's where I strategize, Joe.
They'll never find me there.
Flip what up, man.
I'm chilling, man.
Is you really keeping this Malcolm sex look going through?
Are you going to go through the spring with it?
I don't even know what you're talking.
You bodied Ari with it.
Stop, don't be stupid with me, niggas.
You bodyed Ari with this look.
Your DMs was on fire.
Nah, he was a little more buttoned up on Ari, I thought.
Nah, the glasses.
The glasses.
The glasses.
The glasses.
The Malcolm sex look on Ari.
Co-switching.
Fingers.
I'm just cold switching.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I love J.L.L.
But, uh, not like you.
Like that shit worked.
Your DMs lit on fire.
You was hot.
My cameras, Lord.
I love Kiaris.
Then you did it again.
You came in again with these glasses on.
So, and I know you.
I came here with the glasses first.
And you came to my birthday dinner in these glasses.
That's where you debuted.
Soft launch.
Soft launch.
So I want to know if you're keeping this thing going through the spring and through the
summer. It is becoming. I think I'm wearing glasses for the rest of my days. Oh, on earth.
Yeah. You don't wear contacts anymore? Yeah. You gotta weigh double. You got both on.
Damn, nits. I want to see everything in 3D. Take them context out of your eyes, boy.
They look good, though. I like that. Thank you, sir. This whole outfit, like, you look good.
You knickers that's blind, like you're blind while you're fucking too.
Yeah.
What's your point, though?
Got contacts, man.
And you, that's the, that's the, that's a, the other senses get heightened.
Yeah, you don't need your eyes for that.
Yo, he fit, he gets headaches quick.
What a smell?
Yeah, what?
What the fucking talk?
You know what?
Find that shit in the dark.
He get headaches quick.
All right.
Yeah.
What are you talking about me?
I'm dizzy.
Oh, oh, shit.
Let me take a second.
The room is spinning.
Come on.
Hopefully.
Ooh.
I'm not mad at that.
Well, you look good, man.
Thank you, sir.
Shout to you wish.
How can we can never just say that?
What?
It's more fucking.
Because we're black men.
You got to do all the other shit.
Woo, boy, you're all the church.
He don't accept it.
We just giving him compliments.
The nigger looking up acting like he squared at the board.
That's what you call.
That's what you was going.
That's his point.
That's cool, though.
And why you cream head to tell, like, what's going on?
He's biting the cream.
You look like the race on.
on the good pencil.
Yeah.
You look like a timbrelain cleaner, nigga, nigga.
What the fuck is up with this deal?
Timberlint cleaner?
God, damn.
This is better than confidence.
It is.
The timber and cleaner.
You ain't buy that separate.
You ain't bought that together.
You bought that together, like on a mannequin.
You ain't buy that separate.
You ain't like just buy the top of this
and let me find some sneakers to match.
Bought.
Bought.
Bought.
We got a free.
You know, he made.
You know you met some girl that worked a new balance.
Gave his info,
900 hours on the phone.
That's what it was.
A website.
Gave it a website.
He just did this with the glasses on.
He used network bag.
He used network bag.
Network bay going to find something to network.
Did it all that for some sneakers of the soup.
Nah, not, not, not, not just that.
Not just that.
Not just sneakers in the suit.
That's a tip of iceberg.
Oh, my God.
Oh, shit.
All right, we got a good show lined up for y'all.
I'm a little sad.
Why?
Why?
A little sad.
What's going on, brother?
No, I know why.
Yeah.
Rest in peace to the founder of only fans.
Oh, yeah.
So don't worry.
The content's going to keep coming.
They got another CEO.
They got another CEO.
Don't care.
Yo, look what you think I'm sad about.
Well, that is something to be sad about.
Rest in peace, to Duke.
Yeah.
He did it.
He did it, big.
Who gets that operation, boy.
Oh, my Lord.
kids is having a blast
that's fucked up to say right now
that's bad to say
no rest of peace
rest and peace
thoughts and praise
but boy does he leave a fucking fortune
6.7 billion
you get worth enough
you gotta get paranoid even the kids
fuck that
yeah
dog I'd be scared of the water you drink
in restaurants all that shit
it's a different type of money nigga
is there ain't anybody trying to poison
you and shit
I ain't got 6.7
actually let me stop
I ain't fucking way up today
what was I saying
All right only fair
No why am I sad
Oh because of that cue
Oh yeah
That cue was a bitch
It's over
I saw that cue
Yeah yeah
Let me get this podcast started
I saw that cue
And was like you know what
Joe start begging
Joe Bud is a fucking liar
That's what I'm gonna say right now
What?
You
He can get it
But the shit is going on
Mark
You try to go in there
No
Oh you weren't
to go through him.
No, I was going to get my own tickets.
What I'm saying is all this shit, Joe,
talking about poor people's shit.
No, I was there.
Joe, oh, the poor's, we logging in,
doing all this shit, oh, my God, you guys stand low.
You guys do this.
You stood in line with 816,000 people
trying to get Jay Z tickets.
No, he did not.
Of course he didn't.
And you never were planning to.
You don't do that shit.
You clown people to do shit like that.
Why the fuck you trick me?
You clown niggas to do regular shit
like buy groceries.
No, he clout.
You made for us for having a cold.
No, he clout the nigs that's with the nigs.
No, I clown, I clown y'all for y'all having extremely poor immune systems as you age, you and itch.
Like, y'all's sick every other day.
Dog, and four years ago, five years ago, so were you.
Not like this.
You were.
We remember when Lex was going to school and you was coming in, arguing about the dirty-ass kids, quote-unquote, that keep getting you sick.
Not like this, though.
I know.
You and Mark, you all be sick.
I'm not sick, but I hear you, though.
Oh, you just congested?
I'm not congested either.
It's all right, though, dog.
I remember you coming in here coughing up a lung.
And then y'all niggas don't call out when you're sick either.
Y'all come right in and spread the germs.
That's what you want?
Yes, that's what I want.
Now let us call out because we got a germ.
Okay.
But you got a strong immune system, so you won't get the germs anyway.
Well, that's facts.
Yeah, so we're good.
Immune system built like a man.
The fuck is you talking about.
I don't remember what we was talking about.
You were pretending that you were upset about the Jay-JJN.
Oh, yeah, I was upset about the Q.
Oh, let me get up.
Yeah, I was upset about the Q.
Not that I was going to go in there,
but if it were a reasonable number,
then I would have went in there and waited in line.
So what's reasonable?
Three.
$200.
Something like that.
I thought he might have sent out a code
to some family and friends
to be able to purchase early.
He did.
That was yesterday.
He did.
That was yesterday.
Yeah, I know.
By the time I saw it, that she said,
800,000, 99.
I was like, you know what?
I might just watch it from home.
I got it there with Nicole yesterday.
It was one ticket left on the riser on stage.
And I just, before I could even click to see how much that ticket was, it was disappeared, gone.
This said no tickets available.
You're going to go without your girl?
It was one ticket left.
If need me.
On the stage.
What were you going to do with said ticket?
I bought that bitch.
It was one ticket left.
What you want me to do?
This is home.
Would you go?
Would you do?
Where'd you go without your girl?
She always was like, how one done that?
No way?
My name is Freeze.
I never come on again.
F to the A's F-E's factory.
Take it easy.
Yeah.
That's what.
I did the same shit on Saturday.
I was playing a reasonable doubt in front of my wife over and over.
I said, yeah, this shit don't even sound good live, do it.
And when we got to like 10, I was like, yeah, I might just go with my homies by myself.
You don't want to go nowhere.
And then she saw the fake out.
So now she wanted to go to the Blueprint show.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
That's the one I want to go to anyway.
Yeah, you get tickets, Mark?
You got you.
Yeah, I'm going to get tickets.
At least one of the shows, probably both, just as that went.
You're going to, ain't you?
Yeah, but I'm doing other, I'm going to other routes.
I'm taking another route to go.
What you're going to do?
Yeah, about to say.
Well, sneak in again.
Hot defense.
You know, sneak in.
Then you get tasered at the birthday show.
You're going to text Flowrider again.
You're going to call Shawa.
Shawa.
You're going to pull some strings.
You're going to text Wycliffe.
At least I can call somebody is, nigga.
I don't have to pretend.
I don't have no.
Hello, Mark.
No, man didn't get him in.
You know, you know that to this call.
Yeah.
Yo, if she could?
I ain't surprised to be like, you were?
Facts.
You were ill plus one, nigga.
So you go.
So ask me kindly like that.
What?
He'll never ask you, nigga.
That nigga never gets.
Go, he'll stop listening to a whole.
So ask me.
So ask nobody for that, dude.
I'm saying.
like you would ask Mandy.
I wouldn't ask me.
You know his favorite podcast?
Mandy's my friend.
You just said you.
Mandy's my friend and would be like, yo,
you want to go to blah, blah,
blah.
I got tickets.
And I'd be like, yeah.
So you're not going to ask me like that.
I didn't ask anybody.
But if she said, if she said I have an extra ticket,
would you say, can I go?
No, if she's telling me,
yo, I got an extra ticket to something,
she's telling me for a reason.
And would you follow the ass?
No, she'll be like,
yo, do you want to go, my nigga?
If I call Mark and say,
yo, yo, I got an extra ticket to the blah,
I'm insinuating that,
yo, would you like the ticket?
I got to ask you to take you
like to go with me.
Sure.
How do you feel?
What time should I pick you out?
When I should you like that?
Hey, hey.
Hey, what time?
Hey, send me your address.
Meet me at the stop side ass niggas.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
Oh, shit.
Now it's a celebration.
Oh, girl, a
Celebrate
Oh girl this is a celebration
Oh
This is a Thursday
Got that versus tomorrow
One 2nd
One 2 1 2 1 2
Baby we're gonna celebrate.
All wait for the ladies, all wait for the ladies.
Big Jersey, whole New York City.
What up out there?
West Coast, West.
All the subgroups, all the patronies.
What's going on?
What's going on that?
Come on, man.
Yeah, man.
Some of y'all know what I did on that up-and-deck when the pool party ended when Joe had the arcs, man.
Some of y'all know who controlled the music during the VIP after party after everybody left, man.
Come on, stop playing.
I need this side,
I'll give it to you
hold D&B what up out there?
I got a Florida chip in my future at some point
Once this small shit, get over with it.
Yeah, yeah, I got to do it.
They told me it was 90 degrees in L.A. the other day, man.
I ain't gonna be how you're playing with these New Yorkers,
these tri-state people.
Hey, hey.
Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir.
cookout or something nice little R&B party a kickback or something like that
you gonna take me a nice little house party or something like that a hookah lounge and
something ya I mean one of the private social clubs and all that
everybody in Atlanta what's going on out there
they like all the patronies all the subgroups
yeah I mean music is a love language don't you ever forget it
Shout to the whole podcast community.
Outta all the entrepreneurs, 9 and 5 years.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
This record got it done on a lot of nights.
I'm not going to lie.
On a lot of nights they got it done.
We got a great show lined up for you all today, man.
Wow!
Just to say I'm what you need to me.
Shouted everybody fighting those airports.
I see you.
I feel for you.
My heart goes out to y'all out there.
Your pre-check means nothing.
Your clear means nothing.
Nothing.
I got my wish.
I got what I asked for with the Justin Timberlake.
Yes.
The Justin Timberlake footage that came out.
What a disappointment.
You know, yeah, you know I was begging.
I was begging for it.
What a disappointment.
Oh, my God.
I mean, yeah, it was.
It was.
It was.
Don't touch that down, man.
We got a great show lined up for y'all.
Keep this applause going for the best crew on earth.
Let's go.
Let me get these drops out the way right quick.
No, Joe Biden.
What's that?
This, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this,
you're ice and Polish.
No flip.
And I still don't have my flip drop.
And I'm not going to look for that episode.
So I need flip to just do the drop for me
so I can put the cool effect on it.
What do you want me to say?
We'll talk off here.
We're going to do the drop and record the drop.
The people have been worrying about that.
I thought it was something light.
No, it's not light.
It's very important to the people and myself.
It's not nothing to sleep on.
It's been long enough.
No, it's been long enough.
I can't wait.
I appreciate that.
I'm not.
For too long.
Stop talking, bro.
I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm good.
Too long and too important to this broadcast.
We're not doing that.
We're not playing like that.
What episode is this?
914.
Welcome to episode 914 of the Joe Button podcast.
Brought to you by fueled by, powered by,
sponsored by Pride Spitz.
Pride Spitz gang.
I am your humble gracious.
It's extremely happy to be here.
Host Joe Button here with a few very amazing people to my right.
Queens get the money.
You know the vibes.
Queens flip in the building.
How you doing, man?
I'm good.
I love y'all.
I'm happy to be here.
Let's get to work, man.
Happy to have you.
Next to him, Philly's finest.
Our good brother, Dr. Dark Lamont Hill is in the building.
Mark, how you doing?
Great, great, great, great, great.
Good, absolutely love that.
Next to him, Mr.
fucking cream of weed himself.
Mr. Thousand Doors.
He's on the box.
What's that white, nigga, the cream of weed box?
Mr. Thousand Doors and up our good brother.
Malcolm Sex, Ishes in the building.
Ish.
How you doing, man?
Good, sir.
Good, good.
I couldn't be better.
Next to him, the freesiest of them all.
You know the vibes.
Big freeze.
Ice is in the building.
Ice, how you doing, man?
Great, great.
Glad to be here.
Let's ready to get to it.
Good.
Absolutely love that.
Next to him.
Yep.
It's pop.
Elmire is fine.
His big parks is in the building.
White poets in the building.
Black Horriers here.
Erickson is here.
And Ceyer and Savan are here by Remote Labs.
But certainly not least, each and every one of you guys out there are here.
Gang gang.
Now, who do I have to rob to get in this JZ concert?
Very good question.
I'm getting tickets, but I don't know how.
I'm not calling Fadjo.
I'm not calling Lenny S.
Bleak.
Guru, help us out.
Guru.
I don't know how it's going to happen.
I'm not waiting in any queue.
And hopefully some of the feelers I put out there will respond
and get me situated.
I think this 15-minute block of us begging has been,
Yeah, yeah.
You back a little bit more.
I'm calling it back a little bit more.
Yeah, for sure.
Because I already looked on the resale sites.
Not happening.
I'll beg a little bit more.
Yeah.
How much are you looking at right now?
I saw over 12, 12, something.
Yeah.
$1,000.
Is that the floor joint, the little, the little, the stap.
The riser.
The right.
But the actual field floor, I'm looking at $4,000, 5 grand per ticket.
Yeah.
Oh.
And that's in the back of the floor.
That's not even.
That's not even.
That's the back.
That's the back.
of the floor though that ain't up front any the size shit you know so something like low 7500
exactly you're rich they're awesome i think it sound like you should just flex and get the whole crew
ticket said awesome i won't be doing that i won't be doing that at all sorry sorry sorry about that
but if we're in there niggas can meet up with you saying i didn't say that either don't meet up with me
if we in there just enjoy the show oh shit enjoy the show if i paid $5,000 i don't want to see Joe button
I mean up with nobody
I did with you niggas
I don't know you niggins
I don't know you niggins
I don't know
I have to pay
private tickets
Right
what the fuck I look like
I'm letting y'all know
I'm getting in there
by hook or by crook
It's either going to be
The legal, legit way
Or it's going to be
Mob deep infamous
Yeah
I look at
Old school way
Yeah old school
CNN war report
But I'm gonna be in that
I'm gonna just find the building
over there
Somewhere and sit on the roof
Fuck it
Oh, that would be fine
Let me ask you all a question
If they stream this
And it's a reasonable fee
$50, $500, whatever to watch
What it would cost it?
Would you all?
Would that make you less inclined to go?
No.
But I would be okay with that
As a last resort.
Yeah, it'd be fine.
It's a feeling that you get
When you're on the concert,
certain ones.
Yeah, especially as cold.
You can't match that.
You know what else is a good feeling?
Keeping $10,000 in your party.
You ain't?
Oh, no, dog.
If it's 10 grand, I won't be.
I won't be.
I'm not, no.
My nigga.
Well, it'll be about
it'll be expensive
it's gonna be expensive
I'm not being
10 grand for two tickets
to nobody
I'll pay 10 grand for one ticket
I'm not doing that either
it could be to Jesus
coming back
I'm gonna miss that one
yeah and if you pay five
you're gonna be
sitting close to Jesus
because you're gonna be
at the top of the stage
and that's the
I won't pay five now
in the heaven
exactly
fuck that
hey Moses that's you
were I'm good
yeah no
would you call Mark
you call somebody
from Rock Nation
like how did you
you look rather comfortable
during the time of crisis.
He looked confident.
I got people in places.
My man got some tickets.
He paid Dash.
Dash got tickets.
He called me.
He only paid $750 or $1,000.
He said he downloads, well.
Yeah, Dash probably waited in that queue
after $2 million people too.
Maybe.
He should resell him.
He could resit.
Yeah.
Oh, the discipline it took
not to text somebody this morning.
It did take a lot of discipline.
Why don't you just go to, like,
what a second market site is just buy them real quick?
You call a discipline?
Yeah, my part, yeah.
Is that ego?
It's ego, bro.
It's not discipline.
You took the words on my life.
It's ego.
I don't think it's ego.
Why?
Come on, Jersey.
To not do that this morning.
Why's that ego?
You have relationships with people?
I'm not saying I'm against doing it.
I think it's cool.
I was doing it.
It's early.
There's a way to do it.
I got you.
I'm not saying I'm above doing it or I'm not going to do it.
Soon as tickets go on sale, you on the phone calling a nigga?
Yeah, that looks a little way that's done.
That looks a little crazy.
That's just not the way that that should be done.
First day is.
It's crazy.
That's not what I was talking about.
I was saying ego is, because you could just afford to buy the tickets online.
Do you not want to buy them online because you got so much influence?
Like, I'm not paying tickets.
No, it's not that.
I'm texting somebody.
I'm texting somebody to give me the point person, the person that has the reserve.
He buys.
The reserve joints.
I'm buying mine.
Yeah, Joe buys.
Yeah, I'm not looking for no freebie.
At all.
I'm buying my.
But you got that from.
You're one of the only niggas that I see that does that.
I watch plenty of events where you say, you'll give me the point person.
I'll pay tickets for me and my people's.
I've heard you.
heard you do that.
I pay for tickets too.
I don't get a fuck.
No, I'm not saying, I'm just talking about with him.
His position, he could just
get it for free, but he'd choose to buy it.
I could get a lot of tickets for free.
I prefer to buy it.
I don't want to.
Is it supposed?
It's a waste of a favor, first of all.
Yes.
For sure.
Like, if it's not going to kill me to buy tickets
if they're reasonable to buy.
Got it.
This is the one to call in, though.
If I can't find them to buy, yeah.
This is the favor to call in.
Yeah.
But you think free free, you're going to just get it, right free?
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying?
Some niggas just some niggas use that favor
Yeah, I don't be a favor
You think
You're fam
What's reasonable as relative
It is
And dope unintended
I doubt if I'll be going to have
Them shit says
You crazy
Yeah I'm not paying
Bills
Yeah
That's what you're calling
A 700
You're 500
You pay face value
I'll pay face
I might even pay a little overface
I might pay double face
I'm not going to be paying
No 10 grand for no tickets
I'm not paying
Super Bowl
Boles prices for a concert, my nigga.
That part of it. Well, me and Mark will tell you all
all about it. No doubt.
I'll live to y'all. I'll FaceTime one of y'all
too. Like, what's your favorite joint?
I won't. Excuse me, Miss?
I won't.
Excuse me, miss. Come on.
I'll FaceTime you, freeze.
Come on, I got you.
Yeah. I'm not above that shit.
You're my niggas.
Stupid. You know, my niggas.
You know, what's going to happen?
The next
second day, the whole concert
going to be on YouTube.
and I'm gonna be $10,000 richer,
and I'll take that.
Okay.
I want to see some good quality.
Yeah, I'm able to a good time.
Oh, no, these n'n't got cameras now, B.
Can't take that 10-K with me, y'all.
And the energy in the room is worth it.
I know.
Life is about memories and moments.
It's not worth 10 grand, Mark.
I'm with you on that.
The Roos picnic, y'all, y'all,
y'all might want to change your mind with that shit.
All right y'all are talking to Philly jokes.
Y'all got me on.
Don't.
Mark.
Mark.
Mark.
Mark.
Mark.
Look me out.
Done.
Okay.
So we got the huge JZGQ interview
who he still believes that we are not getting
a JZ project this year.
Oh, that interview made me feel like he's not there yet.
Yeah, he's not there.
Yeah.
I think he's been working on music
and he ain't found any like.
I don't think we get in a project.
Like I told you.
Like I said, I hope I'm wrong.
But I still do not,
nothing in that interview made me think
there's an album coming.
I'm not a lot.
I was thinking an album was coming
through 25 minutes of that interview,
but when he got to like,
I'm not really sure how I want to sound in
2026 or whatever he was saying.
I was like, oh, yeah, he's out there.
Unless y'all just think he's lying.
I said I didn't think an album was coming.
And the interview was confirmed.
Oh, you think he's lying.
He's human.
I know niggas call him hove.
He's still human.
But that nigger, that nigger got music coming, bro.
I just don't think it's any time soon.
I'm not saying he's never making an album.
I don't think he's coming.
Well, when they asked him about why he didn't feature
on the clips album and he was like,
well, I think my first words need to come from me.
Yeah.
That, to me, confirmed.
Something is coming at something.
point.
For sure.
But he's all, like I said before, he does that in a verse.
He do that.
When he's feeling something or he got some shit to get off his chest, he'll go do.
But when you say it's going to come from me, that takes it away from a feature verse.
Yeah, I'm not saying a feature verse.
Like, even if, like he did when he had his opinion about how everybody was talking about title.
He did that shit as a freestyle on the stage at, I think it was the B-side show.
Like, he can get his point off in a verse without it being an album.
Or a whole song.
He just released a track.
Yeah.
I don't, nothing says album.
That's all I'm saying.
I think he got a lot to say,
and I don't think a verse
is going to cover everything
that he has to say over the last,
what?
When was 4-44 came up?
Shit.
10 years ago.
Yeah, versus since then.
A few.
Yeah, the album since didn't.
He did the Carter's.
Well, true.
J-Let?
Yeah, then stop.
No.
He's so disrespectful, man.
I used to be so fucking disrespectful.
But so, so I'm thinking,
still, nothing's coming out this year.
I think maybe fourth quarter,
but I don't think it,
I don't think an album
as being time with the concerts was sort of the point.
Like, I don't think, like, these concerts is coming out
and you're going to see a Jay-Z album coming out that time.
I could be wrong.
Like, Ice, I hope I'm wrong.
Yeah, I would love to be wrong.
Can't wait.
All right, so, Hove sat with Frazier for GQ
and did an interview that all these clips released
on the day we're recording.
Somebody up there loves us.
Somebody up there loves us.
They asked them about a bunch of shit.
His name being dragged through the mud for the last year.
They asked him about the battle,
which seems to have people in a tidbit
and a frenzy about it.
Super Bowl, album plans.
A lot was covered.
And I do want to shout out Frazier Thorpe from GQ.
He absolutely bodied this interview.
Really good questions.
Had insightful questions.
Had quotes from lyrics just off the cuff.
It seems like well researched.
He bodied that.
You know, Fraser's great.
Shout out to Frazier.
Here we go.
Here's a clip.
And I'm asking about the Kendrick and Drag Beef.
We love the excitement.
And I love the sparring and the music you get.
But in this day and age, it's so much negative stuff that comes with it, they almost wish it didn't happen.
Really?
Yeah, because it's not, it's almost like it's a final thing.
Now, people that like Kendrick hate trade.
Yeah.
No matter what he makes.
No matter what he says, and it goes far too.
It's like attack on his character and his thing and it's like, I don't know if I love that.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know if it's helpful to our growth.
with the fallout lands
especially on
like you know on social media
which takes place every day
you have these pods of cult
the stand armies fighting
yeah and it's like it's too far
yeah it's like bringing people
kids in it
yeah and it's like
I don't like that
you know maybe I've grown in a space
that probably you know
I sound like the old guy
wagging the thing
but I think we can
achieve the same thing
as far as like
sparring with music
with collaborations more so
than breaking the whole thing apart.
It could stand it before because
there was no social media and there was no
thing and you know you had the battle
and it was fun and then you moved on.
Right. Right now I don't know if it could stand it
with the technology that we have.
Because it takes up so much oxygen.
It takes up so much oxygen.
Yeah. Now it's just like every day
they're just trying to get.
They're still talking about it.
Not just talking about it.
Not like, yo, this song, I like this.
I was like trying to tear down.
I didn't love to do this.
Many of your life.
It's like trying to, you know,
wreck this guy's marriage or this guy's relationship with his child.
And it's like, I don't know, man.
I don't know if, I don't know if it's worship at this point.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's interesting.
Again, I love the idea that we got so much music
and such a short period of time.
Great music.
Just everything around it was just like, man,
It's like taking us
A couple steps back.
Yeah.
And we've just grown so much that I don't know
if, I guess I'm going to say it.
I don't know if Baddalen needs to be part of it.
Oh my God.
Sean Carter.
I did I have this disappointed.
I do because I know it.
I know what it sounds like.
I know what it feels like.
Buddy.
No.
I'm glad that he recognizes it.
Yeah, buddy.
He don't care.
No, he don't care.
This was, uh.
I'm off this.
Yeah, I didn't love this take, especially, like, why not?
Couldn't disagree more.
I was outside when Nas and Hove was a thing.
It was divisive.
Super ugly bringing kids into it.
Super ugly was like, I live in kind of in a baby seat.
It didn't come with what the shit that happened was.
It's not even close.
It's not even close.
I think it's a, uh, uh, social media amplified it.
I drop a water in a pool, bro.
I agree.
I disagree.
I totally.
You got, you got one man that's being labeled as a certain thing forever.
And social media just amplified it.
Back in those days.
I'm even doing that shit too.
Dre Day?
Well, that's why I fuck your bitch, you fat motherfucker.
What, Jay said?
What did you say?
What did you?
I fuck your girl.
That's something that happens in our community all the time.
That's nothing.
No, what I'm saying is Snoop and Dre was literally calling people pedophiles.
Literally.
I don't remember that.
They was.
That's what I said.
Go back and listen to fuck with Jerry Day.
I wasn't around for that.
I just think that to his point, I think that the social media thing takes it to a different
stratosphere that we didn't have back then.
I remember literally me and my man going outside of work when they were
teasing the,
yo, we got a new
Jay-Z shit.
We got a, it was a thing.
It was a regional thing.
It wasn't an
international thing.
You get what I'm saying?
I think it's a drop in the bucket.
So you said hip-hop outgrewed.
Because that's the only thing that changed
is hip-hop grew to an international level.
No, social media is now
putting the shit in front of our faces
every single day.
It did, but it didn't.
Because in the real world,
Drake still plays and no one looks at it funny
when you play Drake.
Tell us.
You, listen to this.
This discourse only lives on the internet.
That's not.
Yeah, but that's, the internet is our lives.
It's not.
No, it's not.
It's not true.
No, it's not true.
That's not true.
That's what it's just sales.
That's what your niggas can.
Your niggas can say that theoretically.
Today's society, the internet plays a huge part of niggas lives.
Niggers wake up and check their phone before they say their prayers.
Y'all can say whatever the fuck y'all want to say.
The internet is a lot of people's lives, especially the younger generation.
Okay.
If Drake wants to go on an arena run this summer, he can and will.
This is stopping.
absolutely nothing. It is discourse
on the internet and that is different from discourse
in real life. Somebody shot at this man's house
where his family lives. You can't say that the internet is not
playing a huge part in what niggas see every
fucking. That has nothing to do with the internet though.
That's been happening. That's not
true. That has that been happening
in rap beats before that have niggas be getting shot at.
They house a shot up and shit prior to the internet.
By niggas that was beefing, not by
fans that don't know the other niggas
that they're shooting at. John Lennon
got killed by a fan.
So does Elena.
I agree.
I agree with it.
I agree with it.
I agree with it.
I agree with the internet.
We can't act like the internet
as this place is disconnected from our life.
A lot of our lives are lived on the internet.
But at the same time,
I do think that we can't reduce everything
to how people are talking about something
more on the internet.
I think that for me is the point.
I agree with you.
Like, the internet is important.
But at the same time, like...
What Tyler said about the internet?
Turn your phone off.
Turn your phone off.
Like, there's a whole world
where Drake is...
Like, you can go to the internet and think the world is one way.
And then you can go outside and go to a club, a party, a thing.
And it's just different.
It's not that.
It's not that.
That's what I'm saying.
But that's easier said by the niggas that's not affected by the shit that's happening.
I'm with you.
Because I watch everybody besides you.
I watch people and you, but people up here when things are being said on the internet,
we have addressed it.
You are one of them.
Yeah.
I'm one of them.
So, and we are the ones that affected.
So the person that's affected, whatever mind tricks at this play is just easy to say over here.
Like, oh, it's just the internet.
No, it's not.
I'm a person that's affected.
I'm just saying that's not the only story we should be telling.
Like, in addition to that, like, I get frustrated with people saying I'm in the internet.
But there's the time I just go outside and I realize people, you know, don't think that.
But, Mark, so, look, and you could get frustrated and no disrespect to you.
But in the social scheme of things, you and Drake are light ears of followers.
He's the president and I'm a voter.
No, not even.
It's bigger than that.
So now when this man is-
Why don't you watch yourself, yeah.
That's my name.
I don't know.
I don't know, I don't know, Drake.
I'm just saying, this is my means.
So what I'm saying?
Yeah, he's infinitely more.
So now when he walks outside,
you don't know the effects
that this shit is having
on somebody's mental health.
Fuck Drake.
We're not even talk about Drake and Kidrick.
I'm just talking about the magnitude
of the internet
and how it could play on somebody's real life.
We can't minimize that.
So for me, just to take it back
to the whole point in the connect,
and I'm not defending Drake
because I think what Drake did was wrong too.
And when y'all are done, I'd like to talk on the topic.
You bought this nigga's wife into it.
You bought him hitting his wife,
all of that shit into it.
Now this nigga could put,
potentially lose deals getting looked at as a woman beater.
I think all of the shit is stupid,
but the internet magnifies it in a way that we never had before.
I think that, just on the whole thing,
I think, one, as you get older in a culture or in society,
you start to look at shit different.
And you start to get a little nostalgic,
and you start to forget about the impact of the shit that you did.
It's hard, and I think there has to be a little more self-critique there.
Like, if he says, look, I made super ugly, that shit went too far.
I saw how that played out.
And so now it's that times 100 because of the thing.
internet I kind of get that point.
That's what he said though.
He said, y'all, I regret it.
I get that.
He said that then he regretted.
But what I'm saying is that to me, but he still doesn't regret the battle.
He just regrets going too far.
To me, the answer to this is not to say we don't need battles in hip-hop because the battle
to me is an essential part of hip-hop.
The competitive nature of it.
And no, we can't all just get on a track and kill a beat together and see who's better.
Some of that shit is about the adversarial nature of it.
That is what hip-hop is about.
That's the essence of hip-hop.
Whether it's B-Boyin, whether it's B-Boyin, whether it's Grafright.
He spoke to that because he said all the other parts are not in hip hop no more.
He said breakdancing was a part of it.
It's not here anymore.
And I hate that I'm saying.
He said graffiti.
He named a couple street artists, but he was like, it's not really a mainstream, a part of hip hop like that anymore.
The DJ used to be the DJ and then the rapper.
Not here no more.
You don't know these DJs.
I didn't like that either.
Yeah, I didn't like that.
Yeah, I disagree with all.
Yeah.
We were just talking.
Yeah.
I don't think so.
If he's looking at it from this point of view,
It's not evolving.
It sounds like we should.
It's like, let's get rid of the real essence of hip hop
and just making a commercial music thing.
I don't like how that feels
as somebody who grew up as a hip-hop head.
I think when money comes into it,
sometimes it's out of your control.
Unfortunately, I think that when the big brands
start taking it, it's like basketball.
Like now niggas not competitive in basketball no more
because there's so much money in it.
Niggas is not praying for pride or ego.
Michael Jordan's playing 82 games.
Like, yo, my arm got to be falling off
for me not to be competitive
and get on the court and bust your ass.
Now these kids
be like, yo, my toe hurt, I ain't playing.
We also just saw a fairly
civil, competitive
rap beef between
fairly mainstream artists
and Joey Badass and Ray Vaughan
and them last year was a fucking
melee, and granted they're not
Hove and Kendrick, but it was still just competitive hip-hop
that didn't involve no mudsling and no kids, no babies,
no nothing. So to dismiss
battling as a part of hip-hop
because that ruined it, I think, is...
No, I didn't say that. No, Hoved it.
No. But the, but the,
thing is where do we stop the line?
Kids and wives, like you said.
Yeah. With Joey Badass and them, they weren't taking personal shots at each other's
families and potentially losing niggas deal.
That's my point.
That's the solution.
I'm saying.
It's like, don't get rid of, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Like most said, in black on both sides, like, we act like hip hop is a giant that
hills away from us.
And we are hip hop.
We can say, let's have the battles, but let's make some rules.
I agree.
That's all I'm saying.
I can get rid of the battle, though.
And that only, that only work, like, when these two niggas that really don't like each
other, a lot of times that rude shit
go out the window. And that's always been the case.
And that's the difference between
the Joey Badass in them battle,
which was, hey, we just sparring, basically.
And these two niggas were,
I don't like you. And I've been waiting
for you. So now I want to end you.
That's what I'm saying. I'm listening to
y'all talking. Is like, do we realize
what this shit has evolved into? Do we realize
how many lives are being lost?
Like, we're just speaking,
hip-hop has evolved.
The beef has evolved. Everything evolves.
If that was the case, nigga, the breakdances wouldn't have to go get another job.
Certain DJs wouldn't have to have a 9 to 5.
Everything would have, when things get phased out.
That's what happens.
He's just keeping up with the times and speaking as an eldersman in the culture.
Yo, hey, this is what this is.
This is what's happening and shit like that.
We could want to hold on to the past dreams all the time, but it's not that anymore.
It's not.
Period.
You can't go out there and tell them niggas over there in Brooklyn or Chicago and, you don't do this.
They're not listening to anything.
And that's what is consumed.
That's what we consume.
Or not us, but the kids consumed.
what gets the numbers and him being who he is he's not going to sit there and cosign that so i understand
what he's saying i'm not me too my four that's fine you guys are passionate about it but i agree with
like some of it was all over the place but j z has transcended hip-hop you don't get to where he is without
transcending so i do appreciate this level of maturity from him i appreciate his unique point of view that only
he can kind of give from his viewpoint.
But when you transcend hip hop,
you got to be aware that sometimes,
like I said, some of the stuff you're looking at,
you're not just speaking about culture.
Like, so when he says that tagging is out of,
is no longer in hip-hop,
I vehemently disagree and don't really understand that
from him as an art collector,
knowing the story of Basquiat,
knowing the story
just hearing
Nas writers
just I can't
I can't accept that
from Jay Z
that's some interview shit
yeah
when I went to the restaurant
that I spoke about
in Staten Island
Shawne's house
before I left
she said yo
can you please
can you please tag this wall
in some of the famous
venues that we've been to
it's a thing
to tag the wall
in jail we tagging up
is still a
it's a cultural
thing
it's a culture thing
when
is on Jennifer Hudson and ends it with breakdances.
Like, we're not really talking about the hip-hop mainstream, mainstream hip-hop, record-labeled hip-hop.
That's a culture conversation, and Jay-Z is a part of culture, so I can't.
I can see how you'd be separated from being a multi-billionaire 60-year-old.
And that's cool.
Like, I'm not mad at it, but I think it was a little dismissive of these elements that are still active.
And important.
Yeah, hip hop started
Hip hop started on Sedgwick
at a fucking house party
at a party so every hood
could come together
and fucking get to the shit.
You can't tell me that
you go to a party with one of the playlist DJs
and then go to a party with a real DJ
and tell me about the time that you had.
That part.
You can't, there's nothing that Jay-Z can tell me
that says that that's not a cultural thing.
It's still important.
Got it.
I know what you're saying.
I think his talking points are
important, but they're not addressing
I think he mean mainstream.
Like, you don't see little kids breakdancing
no more. Like, it's tagging
going on, but not from
a wide view. You know what I'm saying?
It might not be breakdancing, but look how important
dancing on TikTok dance. Hip hop dance.
Hip hop dance. Yeah. That's true.
No, dancing, period.
Dancing period.
And when kidding playing all that shit
was out, my older brothers, they
was trying to come up with dances. All the
niggas that could fight, they would go to school,
and have dance battles.
Shumping all of that shit I'd be on trying to.
Dancing.
Look at what dancing was and what it meant for some people
versus what it is today
and what it means today to these kids
and these apps and these streamers.
We've seen the last 10 years of people
trying to get a record hot by coming up
with some sort of dance on TikTok.
Successfully in a lot of cases.
Dancing kind of had a resurgence though
because it did go away for a minute.
They stopped dancing for a while.
I guess with TikTok.
It's been a while that it's been back.
Like you said about 10 years.
Yeah.
It's come back.
And also just thinking globally.
And there's a cultural relevance to dancing from hundreds of years back.
Even hip hop dance.
Like, hip hop dance is a genre when they start teaching dance class.
You know, you got the waltz.
It's a DTFSTL.
I just think it's a huge mistake to say because something is not mainstream or commercialized that it fails to exist.
Right.
Yes.
But he said it's dismissed.
He doesn't.
they fail to exist, though.
He's saying it like his thing.
He said he's dead.
He said there are no longer,
those elements are no longer
part of hip hop.
That's not true.
That's not true.
That's not part of mainstream.
And that's a very parochial view too.
Like, if you look globally,
people are still B-Boy.
People still are.
I mean, people are still graphing.
I go, I'll talk about around the world
and I see people still tagging walls.
It's right.
It's just, there's just,
there's just too much hip-hop culture
that's still tied to the essence
to say that to me.
I agree.
Got it.
So, like, you go to Asia,
dancing in Asia, hip-hop dance in Asia.
Man, they're still up-rocking
in- No, it's huge, though. I'm just saying.
And one thing he did say, which was kind of
contradictory to his point was
it's an Olympic sport now.
Right.
I get what you were saying. It's main street.
They got it, so it's dead.
But, nah.
I mean, it went from that to
you can get a gold medal for this shit now.
It's crazy. Also, when it comes to battling,
like some of Mark said, man,
we, we and this is a very,
competitive genre filled with a lot of ego and a lot of people that didn't go to therapy
and learn the best way to express themselves to one another.
So you're going to have feuds.
You're going to have runnings.
You're going to have battle.
But to only highlight the negative that come from battle means that we're skipping some of the positives that come from battle.
and again, for Jay-Z to be the one saying it,
you to me are the beacon of some of the positive
that come from fucking battle.
You and Nause, the two niggas,
they got it on, one of the best battles ever,
are two pillars in business.
Yeah, yeah.
Y'all to perform together,
y'all to do songs together,
y'all answered the fans' requests,
wanting to see all that shit,
but y'all matured.
y'all matured.
Like, I think that should be a part of hip hop story too.
One of my favorite things about me talking to banks or any of the niggins I ever beef with game,
any of them is the fact that we could talk.
We talk.
Yo, we didn't see eye to eye.
We was in clubs and fought.
We fucking got heated.
We did the disc tracks.
But now, as you grow up, like hip hop is 50 years old.
We should be allowed to grow up.
I did take that away from what he was saying.
It's also contradictory in the fact that.
he was talking about Kendrick's huge year
in the Super Bowl and all that shit
and a lot of that was off of the battle.
So there was a lot of contradiction.
I think, you know, I'm just saying
you should be allowed to beef with people,
make amends with people,
have hindsight,
look at where you maybe made some mistakes.
Hold yourself accountable.
For a lot of us hip-hop people, hip-hop,
we all didn't go, we were not all well-schooled.
We didn't all come from the two-parent household,
So some of these things
Like fucking
Accountability and yada y'all
We had to learn
From hip-hop
From trial
Another thing
Which is hold up man
Let me go
That's another thing that I had a problem with
With his
Kendrick and Drake stuff
Because yeah
Fanbase is taking too far
They do
I agree with that
They do
Yeah you would hope
That people don't bring up
Kids and want to destroy your
personal life.
All of that's fine.
But on the accountability tip,
if you go out there
and beg a nigger to start
with you, if you go out there and
insist that we have this
dance because we've been the best
for too long, just me and you for
10 years, then part of
that you've got to be willing to take all
that comes with.
That's part of battle.
part of battle is
risk assessment
especially if you think you was going to get a one-up
and now in the middle of the fight you realize
a nigga stronger than you do all of that is part of
the tango. I don't want to be in a hip-hop
where that tango don't get to exist.
Now, all of these talking points,
I agree with everything he said
if we switch the conversation to drill.
Yeah.
Because then
it's not worth it.
to me. But that's where it gets tricky.
It's not, it's not where, but we, but he
didn't. He wasn't having a drill conversation. He wasn't
talking about smoking on rolling up
such and such. Dicking up in graves. We
he wasn't talking about all of that. When
hip-hop was getting
scary evil,
it wasn't all of all battles need
to stop. It wasn't
all of that. So now when two
niggas get together and seemingly
to my knowledge nobody got
hurt, even when it's talk about Drake
House getting shot up, I can't
attribute that to
Kendrick versus Drake.
All I get from that
is the two best
doing their best in battle
and there was a victor.
And yes, social media is mean.
But the block used to be mean.
School used to be mean.
Shit used to be mean.
Sorry.
Young guy, I just don't want to live in a hip-hop
where you can't battle somebody.
Where you go in the club
and you can't say to a nigga,
yo, your sneakers is whack.
Like hip hop we're talking about.
You could get shot.
I'm about so you get killed for that shit today.
So now you have to adjust.
You got to adjust, my nigga, like, it's,
but I just attribute,
I just attribute the whole Jay-Z thing
is to, like, the, the, the drug dealer dude
that spent 40, 50 years in prison.
Yeah.
Right?
And he got all of this wisdom
from some mistakes that he made,
some good, some bad,
and he just put it all in,
compiled all of data.
That's how I took it.
I took it like,
this is the old head nigger
that spent 40 years in jail.
He had life.
He gave his time back.
He came home.
And now I'm trying to teach you niggers
or put you guys on a different path.
That's what I attributed it to.
I didn't really look at it like
he was shitting on hip hop.
I just looked at it like he had information.
I'm not saying it.
No, no.
I don't think he was shit.
I'm not saying I'm just looking at it.
Like he had more information
and he was the wise old owl
trying to guide the people.
That's what I do.
Niggas J. Z done shot at niggas in Harlem World.
Jay Z done shot at niggas you knew, didn't.
It's a long list.
And me?
Jay Z, when the fuck did Jay Z put the guns down?
He thought it was buttoned up.
Ordinary Joe.
There was quite a few Jay Z shots.
Like a Nat, like a Nat was bothering him, right?
I'll be back for you.
It's another thing in hip hop we need to start appreciating.
And I see it starting to happen probably over the last maybe three, four years.
It's maturity.
Because that's all this is.
True.
And what happens, hip hop was always young.
Nobody really wanted to see hip hop get old.
Now, like you said, Joe, hip hop is 50.
It's a lot of 50-year-olds in hip-hop.
70-year-olds.
Yeah, but I'm just 50-plus.
Now you see them giving the other side of the game.
We need to appreciate people maturing out of the shit that might have been dope 20, 30, 30,
years ago. But again, it's a personal thing that you chose Kendrick for the Super Bowl. It's like,
oh, man, he's choosing the side and he's putting, and he's not. Like, I don't have, what I have to do
with that? I chose the guy that was having a monster year. I think it was the right choice.
Word. It wasn't in some sort of alliance to a battle. Yeah. What I care about them two guys
battling, like, what I got to do with me? Or have had it. Have fun. Um, it's almost like,
not on just me, by the way. They drag everybody in it. Like, everyone's,
part of this conspiracy to
undermine
Drake, I guess.
But, like, what the fuck?
This might be my favorite part of the whole.
I'm fucking Jay-Z.
Or do respect him.
I'm fucking old.
Dude, respectfully.
Like, for what?
To what end?
It couldn't mean like these guys just don't like it.
And I think they haven't liked you for a long time.
Before you had anything to do.
Wow, I think this has been brewing just like me and Nause was brewing.
Yeah. It didn't happen at the summer jam. That happened, the Lexon TV sets, the minimum, whatever. It was, it was a whole bunch of stuff leading up to that point.
Neff bleak, what is the miff bleak slugs in your hat, right?
It was slugs in your hat. It was a bunch of like little things that led up to that point. And then when it happened, it happened. I actually regret that, because I really like nods. It's a really nice guy.
But also to your point, like, I remember I was like 10 or 11.
when that happened.
I was like...
Well, I was on your side.
Yeah, yeah, I could clearly.
But my position was
I can't go out and buy stomatic
or ask my parents to buy stomatic
but I'm gonna borrow.
All right, all right.
Yeah.
That was hilarious.
It was.
It was.
Charisma, yo.
I just like him going,
addressing a lot of the shit.
Just the capitalism shit.
He addressed the,
all the shit that's been said about Jay-Z.
Like, he's J-Z.
A lot of the shit you put on
Hove is stupid
I think we've said that up here
But we're Hovenders
So I mean we're gonna say that
Yeah
I love that's just a simple enough line
I'm fucking Jay Z
Z
Yeah
Fuck I can't fucking
Hove
Yeah
respectfully
That's a battery
That is a very
That is a very JZ thing to say
Yeah
I think it's also accurate
Yeah
And what a just
polite way
To sun everybody
Yeah
All hope is going to do is come out and sun everybody, and you're not going to realize it to a fucking years later.
I'm a hove.
What do I have to do with this who and Annie?
I'm picking the hot eyes.
You don't have better things to do than worry about these two.
And the respectfully is what does it.
Oh, that's not the respectfully.
You, you know.
But you got a car that's cool with me.
He's been doing this in his whole career just shitting on people.
I love that. Never changed, buddy.
Absolutely never changed.
That's a great interview.
On this interview, I wanted to ask you what I thought about the Jake
Cole remarks.
What were they?
What were they?
What did he say?
What did he say?
What did he say?
What did he say?
What did he say?
What he said?
What he said?
Where did he stand with Cole today?
Let's go, Frasier.
You got the clip?
Oh, I don't have the clip.
No, I have the script, transcript up here.
But I'm looking for it.
So you keep going on.
Well, he asked him where he's still with Cole.
And he was like, obviously,
there's some behind the scene
audit stuff
and he didn't want to
he wasn't holding cold back
he wanted him to go ahead
and find his own way
I would give you the tools
but you do it on your own
I'm listening to that like
we got some issues behind the scenes
and I just wanted to know if anybody else picked up on it
or if y'all thought to say
I got the goal
you got it? You got it? You want the clip or you want to
just it don't matter. He said I was
Mark. He said I was giving him a chance to take his talent and show it to the most people
possible, but his way. I didn't say, here's this record from Stargate and you're putting it out.
Like I forced Bleak to make Memphis Bleak is.
Bleak is my little brother. He has to listen to me. But for Jay Cole, he has to find his own
direction and I'm going to give him the tools. Stargate made humongous records with Rihanna,
Wiz Khalifa, Black and Yellow. Biggest songs in the world. You don't want to go sit with them?
Fine. I don't have any negative feelings for him. I'm actually super proud of him and what he's done.
It's, oh, okay.
It was a little more
because they asked them
where you stand today.
But I took that as
I tried to
Yeah.
You ain't one listening.
You ain't listened.
You ain't listened.
I tried to what?
I tried to guide you this way.
You didn't want to listen.
Go figure it out.
Oh, shit, you did.
Okay.
And then we also look at
But also like if you had listened,
you might have been somewhere else,
but I'm glad you are where you are.
You were where you wanted to be on your own.
Yeah.
And, you know, again, I look up all Cole's albums, everything.
All is him now.
So he obviously went back and bought everything.
I could see some little issues in there.
I didn't take it as issues from Hove.
I took it as, hey, man, I tried to steer you one way.
You want to do it your way.
And God bless me.
Good luck.
That's how it happened.
That's how I took it.
Cole may feel a different type of way, but that's how I took it.
Yeah, I chalk it up.
I don't think we're ever going to find out there.
Yeah.
Hopefully not.
To collect.
No, fuck you speak for you.
yourself. I want to know that one.
I want to know what's going.
Are you crazy?
Is anybody ain't as mature as you, my G?
All right.
I'm mature.
I said, I gave my opinion.
You gave your opinion.
I'm not mad at your opinion.
I'm mature.
You know what's funny about you?
You paint yourself like that,
but in real life, you don't hurt all the tea.
That's why you find.
In real life, you know all the tea.
You're the T spot.
You're the Chinese spot.
T come my way, I'm not outside.
Like rejecting it.
Yeah, you're absorbing it.
Like if somebody tell me some shit, they tell me some shit.
You'll be like, yo, yo, man, get off my phone.
I don't want to hear that shit, man.
I don't want to hear that.
Yeah, but then he come on here like, no, yo,
unfortunately, if we could just stop the violence.
Niggins, shit.
Joy.
Part of maturity, my nigga.
Let my niggas grow, man.
I want to know that after a year old matured.
I want to know this.
You lie.
Shut your ass on.
I want to know, too.
But they're not going to tell us.
Because they keep dancing around.
That's why I want to know.
Like if nobody say nothing, but you just see little shit.
When Cole comes up here.
If I just sit and focus long enough, I can figure it out.
That's what I'm saying.
Is it a situation?
Like, I ain't really put too much thought or energy into this.
Like, I'm kind of just performing.
But if I just sit still for two nights, I'll figure it out.
Is it a situation that you can figure out?
Oh, sure, I can figure out.
I can definitely figure it out.
But I try not to be that invested in people's shit.
Before I was in my lap, then cool.
But now, if I go home and I'm trying to be built out,
the science guy with just
connecting shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't think it's that deep.
I think it's exactly
how he laid it out.
I tried to push you in one way.
It didn't work out.
You go do your old thing.
And Cole probably feels a way
about his back catalog being old still
and he done built the shit up his own way.
So he should, I think it's that.
I don't think it's really much deeper in that.
I don't think it's anything.
That's pretty deep.
I mean, it is.
That's pretty deep to me.
But it's not.
Hey, you go your way.
We tried it this way.
Hey, bygones be bygones.
No love lost.
And we'll never speak.
Be seen together.
rap together, be featured together, never
anything together for the rest of life
and I'll appear closer to push a tea
than I will, this guy that I broke
and took from nothing in North Carolina
to one of the biggest rap superstars, just like I wanted
to on the backstage DVD when I was looking
for people eating the cereal. You were not going to get me
to believe that. Nope.
Well, Joe, why don't we
since he's doing, obviously
there's a camera interview that Cole
is doing, so it's clear he's willing to mend some
fences. Why don't we get Cole up here
and ask him? Mark Began.
I'm talking about you doing it
I'm not begging nobody to come up here and talk
Mark.
Just say you like the Civic.
That's hard you got to say.
There's nothing wrong with flipping burgers.
I think everybody should go with
it comfortable speaking.
That's true.
That's what I think.
And I don't shake ass for a fair interview.
Look at Mark.
Mark won that interview.
Look at maturity.
What?
No, I never shook ass.
No, that's about that.
Oh, okay.
I think everybody should go
with it comfortable speaking.
That's my church should not.
You know, there's some snickering going on over there.
You all identifying with something I said.
That was funny?
What happened?
I said something that was funny
We just told my niggas
We just told my niggas
We're very funny
I'm just talking
My niggas
Yeah
Why don't think
Are you gonna say that
Why the fuck you went to go sit over there
Nick?
Not with Camin'clock
I'm just talking about with anybody
Clean it up
You know what I'm saying
That's my man
So I gotta clean it up
I had to put up
My friends, nigga
Yeah
I'm not afraid like y'all
Niggas
Well it was a good interview
It was a great
The Q interview was great
What you think
With the Nadecah J Cole
While we're here
It was cool
Yeah
It was cool.
Didn't really get a ton of information,
but I thought it was a good interview.
I was a happy for her.
Me too.
Me too.
I thought it was good interview.
I think more interviews are going to come
and more stuff is going to get unveiled.
Looking forward.
I didn't see the Cam when I...
The problem when you don't, like, speak to people often.
Like, we don't get a cold interview often
is that when you speak to him,
we got to rehash all of this shit that I personally have moved on from.
Right.
Like, Cam was asking him good shit.
Like, Cam, whatever you didn't like from the desk of Cam was getting right to it.
And it's like, I personally,
am just off of this.
Like it wasn't new stuff.
Right.
But you get the answers, though.
Sort of kind of.
I feel like the answers
that we've kind of already gotten
from records
and when he spoke on stage
and I don't think there's anything new
that we're getting out of any of this.
And I think those are the two interviews
he need to do.
Neska, his people,
and Cam, who he once promised to
go go do the shit.
I'm glad he did the Cam shit.
Me too.
Made me happy.
I didn't think it was going to happen.
I'm real glad he did that one.
That shocked me.
Yeah, and I'm glad they addressed all the shit.
Yeah.
And as much, y'all know me, I missed everything a rollout and all that shit.
I love the way they tease this.
That was funny.
That shit was amazing.
Normally, I'd be like, oh, this is a boy.
I absolutely loves it.
I think it was real the first time I saw it.
You said you didn't think it was right?
Like when I saw the little promo of him popping up.
Yeah.
Because it looked almost like fake.
Like AI.
Yeah, I thought it was AI.
You know, shit on in that.
A lot of AI fakes people fall for.
But I saw that it was real.
And I was like, that made me happy.
You're like, you're such a jerk, man.
I thought about enough.
My last Jay-Z clip.
Looking back in the last year, it was hard.
Really hard.
I was like heartbroken.
Really?
Yeah.
I'm glad we got right to that.
You know, so we could just get that out the way.
Okay.
Like, I was really heartbroken by like everything that occur.
Mm-hmm.
You know, we're all like, you know, we're in the space now where it's just like,
almost like consequence is not thought about enough.
So everything is so instant.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Like that whole Buzzbee.
This is a lawsuit that was dropped, dismissed.
That shit took a lot out of it.
I was angry.
I've been that angry in a long time.
Uncontrollable anger.
Like, you don't put that on someone.
Like, that's the thing that you better be super sure.
It used to be like that.
Like, you'd have to be super sure before you put those kind of things on a person.
You're just to be a person like me.
Like, even when we were doing the worst,
We were doing bad. We had those kind of rules. There was a line, no women, no kids.
You know, you hear those sayings, but those are things that I took from the street.
You know, morals, integrity, code, cold. Those things I took because we lived and died by that.
So it's strict for me. Like it meant a lot to me. I took that really hard. And I knew that we was going to walk through that.
Mm-hmm. We was going to walk through that because, you know, first of all, it's not true. And the truth, and the truth is
The truth is, you know, at the end of the day, still, it still reigns supreme.
When you feel, new feelings, how do you then bounce back and get back to being Jay-Z?
I don't know.
I'm just, we just, this is, this is the first thing I'm doing, actually.
It was just like, all right, man, we played enough defense.
2026 is all offense.
Uh-oh.
Well said.
Yeah.
That's dope.
Well said.
He right.
the vulnerability too of saying like I was heartbroken.
Yeah, for sure.
Yo, Cole Bink.
Call, uh, Just Blaze.
Call Prereen.
Call for real.
Yeah, come on.
Make the calls, yo.
Go in the batch.
Ski.
Fuck it.
Call up the dream.
Tell them what you're thinking.
Come on, oh.
Come on.
Oh, and also on the show, he added a Sunday date now.
Oh, really?
Yes, it's called Extra Innings.
Interesting.
So we gotta go to four hove shows or something.
That's a lot.
Extra endings might be the one, too.
That's the one way.
Extra inning sounds.
Everybody will come out.
Everybody will come out.
Everybody will come out.
Yeah, that's the one.
Yep.
Oh, my.
I'm already texting my connect now.
That's the one.
That's the one.
Who's your connect?
You don't want to know.
Okay.
It's a, I'll tell you.
It's just beep.
Believe it or not, she got like the illest, like, industry connects.
Who goes, you know, so, yeah, okay.
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What are you going to happen at that Sunday show?
Extra innings. Extra innings show.
I think that's the one. Stars coming out.
Yeah, that's the one. That's the one. Yeah.
Oh, you think it's going to be the feature night? Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because if you're doing
reasonable doubt the first day, blueprint,
the second day,
I'm going to be a treat.
I remember
I remember the 10-year reasonable doubt. You do that.
album and then it was like a whole other show after that he he was like a little intermission
and they came back out and started running through the hits now he didn't bring the guests out
he brought every guest that was featured on reasonable doubt got you but well outside of big
of course but um well you think is coming out on sunday big freeze oh man Ross for sure
I think we'll see Ross up there um I wouldn't be surprised we see Wayne up there
man yeah you're all you're good you're good you're missing up there doing what
rapping with hope
rapping what?
God did.
I was saying by Mr. Carter.
On what stage?
Yankee Stadium.
You disagree?
Hey Mr. Carter.
I think, I just think that y'all think that Jay-Z is kind.
I don't think he's not, I don't see him sharing his,
we ain't opening up Yankee Stadium on a Sunday for me to invite another,
another nigger last name Carter to do his song,
hey Mr. Carter on my 30th event.
Hell no.
Hell no.
I think I could see him do it.
I can see it happening.
All right.
I'll take a, I'll take a, we'll do predictions.
We'll do predictions on that one.
Let's see what Cali she has to say about that one.
Who else?
Who else?
Who else you got coming out?
Beyonce hits the stage, of course.
Okay.
Of course.
Drake.
All right, man.
What else we got?
What else?
Hey, y'all.
Drake is out of that stage.
Jay Z make moments.
he will make a moment
and if Drake hits that stage
it's gonna be a moment
all right come on y'all
what else we got
what other topics we got y'all
we just up here being
we just sound like fans now
sound like fans just talking about
Jake Holy
All right
What other topic do we
I'm finished
Can we talk a little bit about
Because you hiked this up for this
I was looking forward to
I think I texted it to you
The group
That footage of Justin Timberland
Oh my God man
Boo
For weeks
We've been waiting
for Justin Timberlake footage because we were hoping for it inward drop we were
hoping some crazy shit. Hard ER. Because he was he was fighting so hard to not have the footage
released we thought it had to be something to it. They called they called Jack Harlow
hard hard R. Kelly.
Oh shit.
Solid. Solid. That's a good word. Hard R Kelly. That's funny. Sorry.
So the Justin Timberlake arrest footage came out when he was in the hamper.
He was fighting to suppress, was released.
And even I think that was the okie-doke move now.
Like you fight to have it suppressed as if it was something that was mind-blowing.
And then when it comes out, people are let down.
People being you.
I was let down too.
It wasn't just me.
It wasn't just me.
I was rewinding that shit.
Like, come on, just give me one in words.
Give me one.
That's all I needed, man.
But he was just regular drunk.
He was just regular, can't walk straight, drunk, talking slow.
drunk. Was he driving a minivan?
I couldn't see the car.
It was a very ordinary car though. I couldn't make out what the car was.
It looked like a minivan. It wouldn't shock me.
So when the guy, when the officer pulls him over,
the most interesting thing to me was he didn't drop the I'm Justin Timberlake thing
as fast as I would have. I feel like if he drops the I'm Justin Timberlake sooner,
maybe he gets out of this.
I have my music playing when you walk up to the car.
You see, you're doing the-
Cating a lot by my body.
What?
He waited too long.
By the time he got to it, he was already clearly drunk.
Like, you can't let the office.
You got to get plausible deniability.
Like, look.
And he got to it weird.
Right.
And he got to it weird.
The world tour part was funny.
Okay, you're on a world tour.
World tour for what?
I'm a cop.
I don't understand what you're saying.
He's like,
oh, it's going to be, um,
how do I, um.
He's trying to be cool.
That's why.
He's trying to be humble.
You don't want to do it.
There's no such thing as humble after you say I'm out here on a world tour.
Humble is out the window.
We're not assessing your humility level.
What are you doing in our neck of the woods?
Drunk.
Right.
Drunk right now.
I'm on a world tour clears up a lot of shit.
But he just got to do it smoother than that.
But I'm not on a world tour on the Hamptons.
Here's what I would have said.
Why not?
You would kind of think, assuming, that I'm just in terms of,
I'm one of the biggest artist in the world.
I assume you're Justin Timberlian.
You are Justin'emble.
He looked like you.
He looked like short you.
But, yo, and you in the Hampton.
So it's a different demographic.
And don't say how parks look short again.
Huh?
Nothing.
It does look like short.
But, yo, I wouldn't look the same.
I wouldn't be thinking that, one, the cop didn't recognize me or would have inquired.
Like, what are you doing up here?
You know what I mean?
Like, those are normal cop.
questions if you black.
Yeah, you look like you don't mean Frank Lucas no good.
He's like you're trying to rob Frank Lucas.
Yeah, I ain't even get that.
He needs to be a godfather.
You look like the bad guy and Godfather.
He's going to rob him, you fuck me up.
Godfather and Newark right there.
No, like, yo, you...
Or Roselle, wherever you're you from.
Yo, you would think that a nigga would start asking you those questions,
and then it'll give you the opportunity to start
telling all the shit without you having
If you're black.
If you're black.
He looked like he belonged to Hamptons.
He just looked drunk.
No, but when the cops pull us over there,
yo, what you're doing out here?
What you're going?
Where are you going?
They start asking us to see what I'm saying.
They never asked him.
Facts.
So here's what you do.
Hey, officer, I know I just,
I know I was swerving a little bit.
I'm Justin Timberlake from InSink.
I have a security issue.
Get out.
Look, but I'm saying I was following my friend
for security.
You know what I mean?
Because I'm just.
Justin Timberlake I'm a, yeah, I would immediately
I would immediately create a situation where the officer's
not focusing on me being drunk.
Okay. And explain. I would get
to that shit so fast.
I like, they usually-
All drunk driving is bad, but Justin don't look like
a good drunk driver. He was terrible.
He kept wrong. Yeah. He probably hasn't driven
a car in 40 years.
Okay, so then when you say my party
left me, okay, somebody in your
party was not supposed to let you buy on the wheel
because you're Justin Timber. That is true.
Right. They weren't supposed to leave you at all.
You're Justin Timberlake
And why you ain't got no bitches with you?
Fuck that Honda Odyssey
Joe
Now he was doing something
Why are you tipsy in the Hamptons?
Yeah
He was the people's
By myself
Yeah
I was going to bullshit
It caught me
Yeah
He had the bricks in the back
No he didn't
No he didn't know
With the bricks
No he had the bed
He just left something
That the security
And my peoples
couldn't stay around
For
Because I was doing something
Real time
And now you're getting back to him.
Yeah, it makes sense.
Yeah.
Free him, man.
Free him.
He ain't do nothing too bad.
You took his car from him, let him out, man.
At what point in the sobriety test, did you all realize he was going to jail?
When he couldn't walk.
When the dude was like, yo, put your foot over foot, over foot nine times.
I tried to do that shit in my house sober, but I got home.
I was like, I'm going to jail.
He told him doing nine times.
He was like, yo, listen, man.
He's like, yo, bro.
Yeah, you like, yo, bro.
That test is meant to frustrate you.
It is.
Recite the alphabet backwards.
Yeah, come on, do it.
Like, what are we doing?
This shit, too.
Look, I just fucked up.
I was about to say,
even if you passed the walk straight shit,
by the time they get to,
yo, touch your nose,
touch your forehead, touch your chin,
all right, touch your nose again.
No, no.
Say Simon.
Give me the ticket.
Quirk.
Arrest me.
What could you talk about, yo?
You ain't seen the one,
it was viral.
They had me doing that shit on the white stone.
They ain't even move the car.
They ain't even move the car.
You did that shit before?
Yes, I did that shit before.
Oh, shit.
I've done that shit before.
That shit is that fun.
Yeah, a couple times.
I've never done that shit.
Word?
You passed it?
One time, no.
One time, yes.
I'm one for two.
Z-Y-X-W-V, you had to count backwards.
I mean, dude, Alphabet Aquardt.
How you got that far?
You just show, oh, yeah, word.
Z-Y-X-W-V.
U-T-S.
You guys, respect the airways.
Respect it.
We're not going to guess the alphabet backwards right now.
But, yo, it was one.
It's funny.
It was actually viral.
It was this bad chick.
Fire.
You found her.
No.
They had her doing the test.
She's ace in the test and flying colors.
Fire.
Half the police department came out to watch shortly.
They still locked up.
For what?
Yeah, you know why.
We have no idea.
You know, Patty now.
You have the right to remain here.
But not.
What excuse me do they use the lock up?
I have no idea.
Lick them low.
Lisa.
Lid him low, Lisa
Yeah, you know what time it is
The test ain't supposed to,
you're not supposed to necessarily nail it
or fail it, it's how you
do it.
Right.
If you're stumbling and if you look,
if you're incoherent.
It's getting more observable behavior.
I get it.
That makes sense to me.
I mean, he clearly was drunk.
That nigga fell.
When they pulled him out of the car, he fell.
How do y'all go about letting the cops know
that they pulled over
a real one when y'all get pulled over?
Like, have y'all ever dropped your name
or your company or
there's a
PBA card.
You're such a geek thing.
Guess what?
Guess what?
He's such a fucking dude.
What do you?
I just stared.
I'm not that famous, right?
So I have a, so I have to,
I had a kind of face that like,
they be like, I know you from somewhere.
So I just keep staring him in the face,
especially if he's a black cop.
Yeah, because I might work the other way.
CNN.
Man.
Wait a minute.
Hold on.
You're that's why.
You did that's what you said?
Hey, get the fuck out the call.
What'd you said?
What'd you said?
It'd be working though.
It'd be working.
Ignore it.
But I got to ignore it, dick.
No, I didn't hear what you said.
The troopers, you know what you're saying.
It could.
Oh, yeah, yeah, it could.
But honestly.
Let me tell you something, though.
The New Jersey State Troopers will whoop.
What?
I never tried to New Jersey.
But in PA?
No.
Look, don't.
And PA, it works.
As long as you, just.
Leave them jersey.
Give us a little fox.
I know you're somewhere up.
Probably T-D.
You're going to have a brand new statement hoodie on soon.
Yeah, it worked.
Ooh, the fresh statement.
Hold on.
What that hoodie says?
What that say?
Hey, yo, turn forward.
Come.
You mad.
See that second and third car coming through.
Wait right here.
Wait right here.
I'll be right back.
Yo.
It worked, though.
But you got to do that.
Once the second car come out,
just start to make the call.
Yeah, you got to make the call.
Yeah.
Send help.
Send help.
They booking me there, though.
What do you do to get out of it?
Nothing.
I go to jail.
Pay.
That's it.
I mean, I ain't famous.
Joe, you're the most famous person up here.
Do you use your fame for that purpose?
Like, do you say, or do you expect to recognize it?
Do you say, like, hey, I'm Joe Budden.
It's on his license.
I would hope that they do.
I would hope to do.
I'm mostly pulled over if I'm getting pulled over is in New Jersey.
Well, I ain't driving.
I ain't getting to go away.
Well, because I remember a couple months ago you told a story where your driver got pulled over.
And I was like, didn't you just, like, lean forward and, like, say something to the officer.
And you're like, no, I don't do that.
Yeah, no, I don't do that.
I just rolled my window down and he immediately recognized me.
And then you were good.
Honestly, I mean, honestly, like, I don't think that's so much a big fame thing.
Fame plays a large part.
And honestly, I've been in New Jersey around these parts for so long that the niggas on the force just be niggas.
It's from my way.
Like, we kind of.
You didn't give him last information.
It's not, no, no.
It's our peer group.
It's talking Joe.
It's our peer group now.
Niggas is 45, worked in Jersey City, PD over here.
Now I'm the sheriff over here.
Like, you just kind of know these guys now.
You can be at Starbucks with you, Dunkin' Donuts.
I asked my driver the other day.
I said, yo, do you know I'm famous?
I asked him.
Because he was doing that whole drive 10 miles out with things.
I'm talking about the cameras and, yo, the police.
And I was like, yo, dog, when they come, what happened last time?
I rolled a window there on my face car, right?
It was good, nigga, speed up.
God damn it.
But I would hope that they recognize me.
I also try to be as legal as I possibly can today
so that I have less interactions
to the police. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And respectful.
That respect shit go a long way.
Long way. It does, yo.
Sometimes.
Sometimes they got a little axe to grudge.
Yeah, if they had an axe to grind, it's right.
I mean, ain't anything you could do about it then.
Sometimes they don't go for much respect.
Well, Justin is free.
Our prayers worked.
Shout out to you, Justin.
Shout out to Justin.
We're happy for you.
Don't do that again.
Hopefully you learned your lesson.
Get Uber.
Yeah, enough for the Titos.
Don't teetos and dry.
Enough of the tetees.
That's where he was coming from.
That's cool.
He's a tauties.
I won't get my brain to go.
There was a part where he was at the police station.
And he said the white shit.
And he said the white thing and the little, the white box.
And he said white.
And he was like, white?
White?
I saw it.
And he's just kidding.
And that's a funny, funny, but.
You too drunk to be funny.
I took it a whole different way.
You're also two whites.
And.
I would drop my white card like that, too, though.
Like on some white shit.
You don't got to drop it.
I don't think it's drop it.
It's your wife.
Sometimes you still got to drop it.
If a fellow white ain't giving you the good white privilege,
that good white treatment you're looking for?
Hey, hey, hey.
You see this, right?
Is that the car?
Park.
Park.
Hey, hey.
I'm a little more skin here.
Roll up
That's why they be riding around
shirtless and shit
Yo, that's funny
Do you ever have to do that though
Because you hang with black people
A decent amount
Like have you ever
Yes
Like with some fuck that shit
It's happening
Some racist shit or some police shit
Do you ever like
Take the lead as the white person?
I try to
Don't help
Really don't
They treat you like a traitor
Yes
Probably be mad aren't you
Yes
Ah god
Historically speaking
In my experience
I can't be through
Hey man stand the fuck over there boy
You don't be black so bad
You fucking know better.
Your parents should be ashamed of you.
Get your ass over there.
You fucking want to be rapper.
One of you super professional people
explain to me what Meek Mill is doing on LinkedIn.
Being super professional?
Yeah, he's being professional.
What is LinkedIn?
Help me.
Help me now.
Explain to me like I'm slow.
Yeah.
You post your resume online and people find you for what they're...
It's social media for business networking.
There you go.
Yeah.
But it's got...
It used to be like almost a...
Like people that were searching for jobs.
It's grown.
It's surpassed that now.
Like even, no who told me to get on LinkedIn?
I ain't do it.
The hose.
Walo said a bunch of his deals are coming from LinkedIn.
Yeah.
So.
Did you do it?
I didn't.
You know me.
You know me, bro.
But, no, so supposedly some people are using that shit as a networking tool to make bread
and get brand deals and shit like that.
It works.
Does it?
Yeah.
Are you on it?
You on it?
I'm on there.
use it a lot, but...
Have you gotten deals from there?
Don't have an agent. But like,
it's good for like
different kinds of networking. A lot of
corporate networking. It's really good for corporate
networking. Because what it does is it'll be
like, if you know this person, you should
like other social media, you should know these people, you should be
connected to these other people. And people now
do like corporate announcements, they do press releases.
It's gotten, like you said, it's gotten bigger.
But a lot of people I know get job interviews
and job opportunities, even
especially the executive level from that.
I don't know if it's good for like entertainment networking.
but it's definitely good for like like i love i love meek's curiosity yeah like i don't have anything
negative to say about that but it just seems like he's in search of something that he's having
trouble explaining i'm confused by it because for the same reason you are it's like again he has
agent lawyers he's connected to the richest and most powerful people in the world at least in our
industries it seems weird to me that he would need to be only did it's a do we know that he's still
connected to all these relationships are still solid and
And I think once you see the other side of the game, now you want to explore that more
because you see like it might be real way more money over there than over here.
But now if I lose that connect or if I just want to venture out on my own and not necessarily
have you fee in me all the time, then he might want to, you know, take a stab at that spot.
He just seemed too big for it.
I disagree.
For LinkedIn, you're saying.
Yeah.
For this route.
Yes.
I think he's too big for announcing that he's over there.
Like I don't think he's too big.
If Meek is independent and Meek is kind of navigating on his own,
I don't see anything wrong with that.
It's just some, my, and I don't know if he does it for engagement purposes as well,
but I think the announcing it on like Twitter and stuff,
that comes up that way.
That's when it looks a little.
Can I be you for a second?
Do they have a verified situation?
Because maybe that's his way of saying this is really me over here if you find me.
Is this a brand deal?
Is he getting paid by LinkedIn to endorse LinkedIn you then?
Could it be.
That's possible
Could be
That would make it
No
No
I just think it would look different
Yeah
Be more polished
This is a commercial
This seems like
Old guy trying to figure out
The Wi-Fi code
Like that's how it looks
I think if it were a partnership
It would just look a little more
Put together
Then it's a bad job
It's a bad job
It's a bad job at organicness
It seems like me
Just trying to figure it out
Yeah
It seemed like he don't have
for the
mainstream part of his career
it looks like he had people for everything
and now it looks like those people are not there
so he's trying to just navigate
whether it be on his own or with a smaller team
or whatever but he's more hands on
isn't that the case when you go independent
yeah I mean
but you still would typically
theoretically someone of his stature
have a manager or agents
or both
where you're maybe not
running the LinkedIn
or what if what if
What if I have a manager, and I don't know this to be meek situation, but I got a manager, but I ain't seeing how I would do.
Then fire him.
Because we've seen a lot of cases where people don't like their management.
People don't like who I'm signed on.
I'm working with over here.
So I'm going to try to do this on my own.
Maybe he can't fire him.
Yeah.
I guess.
For me, it's like, it would be almost the equivalent of somebody doing like an online date nap as a celebrity.
It's like, there's nothing wrong with it.
And I hope it works for you.
But you're almost too.
big to me to need it, but also you're almost too big for it to work the way it's supposed to.
Because you're going to get flooded with so much, you know what I mean?
He's going to get a lot of demos, even on LinkedIn.
That's what I'm saying.
I think it's not going to work out for him the way he wants it to.
But I love me and I want to be successful.
And I'm watching him navigate the process of being independent and it's hard.
So I, you know, salute to him.
I just, I don't understand this one.
It was so strange to me, like you, Parks, I wondered if it was really him.
Right.
Right.
I mean, this is on a list of things that I don't understand that he's done.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Hey, I need $5 million to, because I want to do an album and a movie and I'm tweeting this.
Yeah.
Like, it's a lot of, it just seems like I don't have nobody.
That may be the case.
Might be.
All right.
This story is so funny to me and weird.
So did you all see the Mary J. Blige interview a couple days ago?
Nope.
I missed it.
No.
Mary gave an interview where she was talking about like the early stages of her career and a very
particular experience she had with a veteran vocalist. She didn't say what the person was,
but she told a real interest story. Here it is. All right, let's hear it. And you may have
heard this before, but I ain't saying no name. But you ain't saying on names. I just met this
person and I was excited, so excited to meet them. And this is when, you know, back then,
when your roots was dark and your hair was blonde, but people didn't know what it was, but we
knew what it was. So this person goes, you really should dye your hair, your roots the same
colors your hair and you need to learn how to sing on key.
Damn. Jesus.
I ain't saying no names when I was like,
okay, let me go and see if I'm singing flat or whatever that means.
So I ain't saying no names.
We can pause it right there, right?
So for like two days, everybody on the internet was trying to figure out who she was talking
about.
I knew who she was talking about.
But and a couple other people did.
And of course, the internet did its thing.
Exactly.
they started internet
and they pulled up
this classic
but somewhat recent interview
from the person
here it is
let's hear it
1990s
when you would introduce
the Rufus song
Sweet Thing
which is your ballad
I wrote it
you would call it
the song Mary J. Blyge
fucked up
is that's true
I said that in public
I might have said it to her
okay but so you did believe
she fucked it up
how'd she fuck it up
number one
her vocals were
flat and I told her I said what time did you when did you what time of day was at night what
you're doing when you decided to recover yeah that's great you asked somebody girl I've been up
on late and out it was at 8 o'clock in the morning girl she said girl you don't sing nothing at 8 o'clock in
the motherfucker morning especially if you have to get up to saying if you'd have been up all night
smoking crack or something I don't know what you don't get up at 8 o'clock in the morning the same
girl but she and I have that kind of race to you can talk yeah you guys are
ended up recording together, right?
Yeah, we can talk.
We can tell her.
Yes.
You know, I love her.
She loves me.
We don't have a problem.
Yeah.
Now, the press would love to make it a fucking problem.
I wonder how.
The press would have to just stretch to, what?
That's crazy.
Yo, old people, yo, they be stuck.
They don't get.
They don't care.
They don't care.
They don't care.
They don't care.
That's crazy.
First of all,
like, Shaka made it sound like,
I told Mary to
her face, not in front of the cameras, but she's in front of the cameras right now telling
us that she's over that.
I mean, this is what we got to love about our veterans, man.
The OGs, man.
I say the OGs, they just, that's where they come from.
They're honest like that.
They don't care.
Don't hold no punches.
Or not.
Don't hold no pun.
No, I want that.
I was just watching something, you know, speaking on this topic, but it's something similar
that I saw you touch on with even pertaining to the coaches.
I'm going to get to that later.
But, nigg, we need some of that, somebody to be honest like that.
Yeah, nigs is too sensitive these days.
Oh, I love the honesty behind the scenes.
especially if you've got the auntie relationship
where you could be like
but it's not like
like Mary's version
is very different to Shaka's version
that's the funniest
how two people experience something different
it sounded like Shaka was just
on some auntie shit like
like I'm pulling this girl's side
and showing her love
and it felt like Mary was like
I don't really know this person
and they come over and talking about my hair
and my voice
like the first time we meet
I'm showing grace
and I'm showing respect to the OG
I really
the stories could have been the same
but Mary had enough koof
not to really put it out there like that
I ain't even say who it was
right
Like, I'm having, I'm respecting telling the story.
Yo, I don't know if you was up all night, smoke, and crack.
Come on, my nigga.
Right.
Particularly.
That part is.
Coming from Shaka Khan.
Yeah.
That has to be said.
That's a good point.
I'm not sure she was over in this.
See how you guys show grace?
Right.
That's crazy to be.
But if there's anybody that could say that.
It would be Shaka.
Yeah.
Wouldn't Shaka be on the list?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just feel like, if you kick in my back in public,
you got to.
You got to add a little, and I can relate to it.
That's all I'm saying.
Okay.
Otherwise, it comes off a little, like, judgmental.
Like, you waking up early in the morning with you smoking crack.
Like, I've never seen a sober-shunker kind of performance.
I agree with what you're saying.
I just also feel like you open the door for that once you cover somebody's record.
Talk about it.
Ooh, that's interesting.
If you covered somebody's record, I think it would be naive of you to think that that person is just either going to have all great things to say.
or nothing to say at all.
Like, if you're doing a tribute,
yes, it will be classy
for the person you're honoring
to sit there and give you the...
But the greats don't do that shit.
They don't.
Do Prince do it?
No.
Nick, Prince would never.
My thing is, yo, I think,
this is my opinion.
When you're covering somebody,
I just think tact and kuf
are a part of being in public.
Like, yo, dog, like, the lady covered your song.
You could have hated it.
You could say, yo, I ain't really.
care for it. Like it's a way to
say it. Don't say yo-yo's up all night smoking
crap. She said she said that time. I think Tacton
Kuth came in the 80s.
90s. Yeah. Once you hit a certain age, you lose a lot.
Well, not everybody, but most people. A lot of
motherfuckers lose. Tacked and Koof.
You saw Quincy. You saw what Michael said. And we all
the world. Niggas said, if you don't get, you saw his face.
You think niggas looked at Michael
face when they were singing. Oh, Michael
like it? No, nigger, it was on his face. He probably
said something. But at least he just made faces.
Louis and City Wall for his shit.
He told Quincy, Quissy, go tell her.
He was saying, he was telling the niggas to say shit.
Also, damn, that sound like I'm just caping for shock and I'm not trying to do that.
But also, if you were singing flat and if your hair looked a mess, wouldn't you want, wouldn't you want somebody to say that to you?
Yes.
In an auntie type of way.
Stop it.
No, no, no.
At the rehearsal, yes, the record was out.
No, this is Mary was saying.
Tell me after my record's out, that that sounded flat, that's just, what can I do about it?
Was she there when you did the record?
flat the next time.
Okay, that's fair.
But look what Mary said.
Mary said she went back to go see if she was...
That's what Mary stayed at.
And Shaka Khan, and, you know, Mary's like an icon
with regards to style, fashion, et cetera, et cetera.
There was a point in time where they were purposely
doing the shit with the roots in the hair.
And that's what Mary was saying.
And that's what she was saying. Like, yo, she's older.
She didn't understand what we was doing, like, grace.
Cool.
Grace.
But...
Mary was very graceful.
I concurred.
We love Mary's amazing.
And I love Shaka Khan.
In fact, respectfully, I would love to meet your car.
Live.
Sure.
Me too.
Me three.
In the 70s, the 80s, or now?
Is this a shocka Khan show coming up that I'm missing or something that we're fighting
to get tickets to?
She had to boot now?
Is what they're saying, Joe.
Oh, you would fuck Shaka Khan.
Y'all would fuck Shaka Khan right now?
That'll wake me up.
Shon Khan is fire, yo.
She looks good.
I saw, oh, how old is she?
I had to wear in Google if you look good.
Niggas is smoked Shaka Khan.
Shaka Carl, Shaka, car, Shaka, Kama.
Nickers is a smoke for you.
Yeah.
Freeze.
I'm not playing with Shaka.
And she looks to take it down in the car.
I think of my, I'm like, not just right.
I'm working around nothing but cave, man.
These niggas won't.
You wouldn't say that Shaka Khan if you were in your situation?
No.
Yes, you would.
No, I would not.
I mean, I also didn't see whatever pick you all saw.
I'm really talking about Shaka Khan from back in the day.
Sure.
The Rufus Chaka Khan.
The Black Panther Shaka Khan.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know she's part down with the Black Panthers.
Okay.
They're organized in Chicago.
Should just really get it going, right?
Yeah.
To the fire!
I like our OG being like that.
I'm sorry.
Me too.
Or Shaka?
Chaka.
I like it.
Whoever.
I like that shit, man.
Just tell me I'd be blunt.
When you do with that black fist, I was.
Shaka do seem like if you do.
If you fuck and she'll make a mistake and tell her home.
girls that your dick is amazing and all the home girls
I want to fuck you. She seemed like one of them.
Oh, it's little.
Well, yeah, okay, have the opposite effect.
I shouldn't work with cavemen.
We should be able to discuss some of our grades.
Everybody up here is restraining themselves.
Like, everybody restraining themselves.
But that makes us more cavemen
that we have to show such restraint over
fucking shock a con topic.
I'm just saying, man.
Hey, yo, we still on fucking shoggi-
But just on it.
No, no, when you're done again.
No, just on, but in terms of that,
actual analysis and I
think I like Mary J. Blige's
version of the record.
But when you go back and listen to it,
was Shaka right? Does it not sound
did it sound flat deal? I would have to go back
and analyze it. Unfortunately, we don't have the time
to do that. I don't understand. Musicality and all of that.
We do that. We do that
Patreon. You're some bullies.
Yeah, that's not what I was doing, the sweet thing.
Oh,
sweet thing.
Yeah, I mean, I was in some yams
with sweet thing. I didn't hear nothing about
who was flat
you wanted that one
flagged
that's talking about
92
you wanted no yeah
imagine
imagine fucking Chaka Khan
trying to get your name
wrote in the will
and then she passed
and you realized
that she sold the shit
to somebody else
you're just fucking
for nothing
you ain't got a
you ain't got not a lick of fucking
well half of this room
wouldn't
have fucking
it for nothing
it wasn't in it for the will
come on
speak
oh the will is there too
oh great
speaking of fucking
come on come on let's get to it
your man shine doubles down
ice was excited
wanted to talk about it
wasn't excited I'd say but um yeah shine
got winded what brady said
got win
and he said I don't know what's wrong with her
I spoke from a place of admiration
and a place of reminiscing on my experience with her
which I didn't care to highlight the negatives
it was only positive
she lied to Oprah about being married
and had to go on Oprah and apologize
because she said
she did that to protect the image.
I can't get in her mind.
I'm just saying that she lies to the public
before to protect the image.
Maybe the fact that she was seeing both
Mason and I at the same time she feel it's not good for her image.
It seems messy to me.
It is messy.
Why he's trying to be it so messy?
Because he ain't got nothing else to do.
He's not in office anymore.
He got this album coming up.
Project's coming out.
Yeah, he got a project coming.
I don't like it.
I don't like it at all.
He seemed like a thorough dude to me.
So this behavior.
He didn't bring it up, though.
If he's still talking about
I'm still talking about it.
Well, hold on.
If something was brought up
and I just stated what I said
Somebody come back and say I'm lying
I might go try to go back and clear that.
What's wrong with her saying,
yo, I'm lying to protect my image?
About some shit that happened 20 something years ago.
If you say
Close to 30.
Yeah.
How many years?
If somebody come out and say something about you
that didn't happen or you say,
oh, I was with this person.
You don't say it.
I'm sorry.
It came up in conversation.
and then somebody no he's lying i wasn't with him
i ain't that wasn't that was just we were just platonic friends
and there was nothing more
niggas
let it go hold up my that's that's not what happened
let it go what's wrong with letting it go
being a man we got to sometimes shut the fuck up and not look messy
and let it go not just that what you might have thought
we could be funny or we could be men
nigger we've had platonic relationships with girls that we popped before
so her labeling it a platonic relationship don't say she's lying
in this context it does
no it doesn't
here's what I say that
here's what I say that
because he says
if he implies that they
pop and she says
I'm responding to the things
that she basically was
correcting the record
she's basically
what he said wasn't true
I agree that you
could have a platonic friend
who you had sex with before
I'm not disagreeing with that
but she was responding
to their conversation
so I think a reasonable person
would interpret that as saying
he made on his dick
yeah he's lying on his dick
let it go
I'm with you I understand that
but I'm saying everybody
ain't let it go
That's all
Everybody's not
And I think
You to drag this woman
That's minding her business
In her fucking house
Raising her kids
And to me and my man
Fucking her at the same time
It paints the picture of her being a whore
She's in the house
Mondeing her business
Yeah
Like yo my nigga
We know what's going on
It paints a wrong picture
Of this lady that's minding her fucking business
So now for her to come out
And say yo
Me and Sean had a platonic relationship
And that's the extent of it
You got to let it go
Agreed
Okay
Yeah Sean trying to paint it
however whatever he
Freeze just read off
him trying to paint it that way
when you're having that conversation
in the room with somebody who
somebody else who allegedly
you know was intimate where it has that
boys locker room
kind of feel already there's no way
you could have the boys locker room conversation
amongst somebody else who also maybe did that
and it seemed like you're honoring that person
or cherishing that stuff.
Does it matter if you wasn't?
If you wasn't the one that brought that up?
No, it doesn't matter.
I'm asking.
No, I don't think it matters.
I still understand if I know I did something and you know you did something.
Why does the world need to know we did something?
And I ain't going to hold you, yo, to keep it a buck.
I'm on the other side.
I'm withish.
Let's bring back.
At what point is somebody able to lie about some of the bodies that they've left behind?
I don't want to live in the world where we got to tell the truth about everybody we fucked.
No way
Are you kidding me
There's some bitches right this second
Where if they got a mic
And just happened to be on a podcast
And was asked about me
And they got the talking
And they tell their truth
I fuck that nigga
Boy I would lie to the wheels for
I would deny that whole
It's about four of them
Only four
Not honest
I can't believe that
There's four of them that
No matter what they say, and it happened.
And it happened.
But if you think I'm giving my account, my version, or me sharing the hell, no, we line to the wheel for.
Why them four?
Huh?
Why those four?
Totally out of character and beside myself.
Nothing I'm proud of.
On some mid-shit?
Extremely ashamed of my actions, my decision-making.
Not something I would want to spread to a new audience, a mainstream audience.
not one that I would continue to uphold whatever we had.
If I continue to ascend, grow a large platform,
retire from whatever she knew me as,
and become one of the best ever in a whole other field.
I'm not still telling, though, that new crop of people
that I fuck this.
Sorry.
At 4.58 in the morning.
Sorry.
Your number's four.
Nigga, I got man.
I get mad if it's my roommate woke up.
up and seeing this bitch creeping in.
You don't say, nigga.
I think there's, uh, what, eight, nine men in this room that probably have to say.
That's why everybody got something.
That's what, what's the number?
What's the number?
And what have you done with your life since we beat?
I went crazy in my, where are you at in life?
Because if it's not something that's reputable to who I am today.
I pop that.
Never did I pop that.
Never did I bought that.
Oh, fucked up.
So how many denials anybody got?
Like, you can just take it to the grave.
I would never cop to that.
Yeah, I got three of them.
You're married.
How many you got flipped, though?
You're a little long life.
When I was young, yeah, when I was younger.
No, I got four.
When I was younger, high school.
Junior high with you probably.
No, no, no, no.
I had a run before I got married.
Pre-K.
Probably like three.
Probably three.
That I was seeing, walk by.
And I don't know.
They wrote me on Instagram.
No, I don't know.
Bitch, you ain't up.
You ain't look crazy.
You live where?
You live where?
Mark?
Come on a dick.
Y'all gonna think I'm bullshit.
Once I say, a white fridge is over.
It's something that I'm embarrassed about,
but I don't think I would lie on it.
I don't think I would die.
Publicly?
I would just hope that nobody found out.
What was it?
What was embarrassing about those experiences?
My decision making, my judgment at a time.
Well, that's what Joe said.
I'm looking for what Mark.
I looked to you for leadership.
You don't know you.
You was drunk and horny.
That's what it is.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
All right.
There's at least,
this is all fuzzy.
Try the real.
They didn't shave either?
No, actually.
Oh, you're like.
Oh, yeah, that colt fish.
Oh,
yeah, some of that coatfish.
Oh, shit.
Coat pussy is the best pussy.
I believe you.
That's,
it's reckless and irresponsible,
but, yeah, I mean.
It's back to that whole shock account thing.
He's like,
IHish, what's they
you?
None.
Nothing, nigga.
I took all their ears off,
nigga.
I never missed.
I still talk to all of them.
Let's go,
that I regret?
Did you were deny?
Did you deny?
No, I would deny.
No, you didn't.
I ain't never.
And not count the ones
you already denied me.
Like the other ones.
Oh, shit.
The other ones.
The other ones.
Your number times.
And keep it on you, my brother.
I've answered already.
Does not...
Probably 10.
Now what about these 10 would make you deny it?
Now we're getting some way.
Riveting content.
See, I think it's...
If you got to go with a percent and just another number.
That's true.
No, not 10.
I think that...
Oh, man.
You know, that's a thing we're trying to...
Go ahead.
No, I think some of where they are today.
what play a part in that
they moved
a lot a lot
could any of the 10 beat again
no not even close
Mark could any of the four beat again
no
all right you got it
this is great
this is great
this was fun how much freeze
oh hard three for sure
what made them
what made them
they were
Not my, what I, what I, they went up to your standard.
Yeah.
Got it.
Destroyed by problems.
They were talking about that.
We are really D. Williams, boy.
They were one.
Yeah, we talk up here like, we.
Oh, it's like 200, 300 pounds?
No, yeah.
Oh, you had one of them now.
Oh, you took one for the team.
Oh, okay.
It won for the team.
Oh.
For them.
For them.
Oh.
You won't.
You're one for the team.
I see it right now at Walmart.
Walmart.
Right, Brad.
I don't know you.
Who?
Yeah, bro.
Listen, it happened, man.
One of my space lonely nights.
The fuck was talking right at 3.42 in the morning.
Why do we get like that at, man?
With the horn dogs, yo.
Bottom of the, bottom of the knife.
You start swinging that thing.
Oh, that shit looked good.
Everything is over the plane.
It's like everything going to watch your brain.
You're just thirsty.
Like, you say, whatever.
They're about to come over.
That's why you got to get that shit out.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah.
You can't hang out of that shit, man.
You got him mad as hell driving home.
Just some running lights.
Just some bullshit.
trying to wipe it off
Hey let me go get some clean
What?
Yeah
The CVS right there
Let me get some spray
You try to light
That shit off,
naga.
Man,
is hell
Like that.
I save myself
from marriage.
Is your partner
aware of any of
the mid on this list?
They don't exist.
I'm denying it
why you think the partner
going to know?
Yeah,
you know how long ago
that shit's were?
Yeah,
it's a long time.
I would tell
if they walked up on.
Yeah,
but sometimes your girl
know you,
you slept some men.
I have a question.
Not, not, but me, before you all met, at any point.
Sometimes your girl's just aware of the mid you slept and just will have a little
key-key with you.
I got a better question, too, at the joke, if you answer that.
Like, do you have to discuss ex-partners with your current partner?
A little bit.
Yeah.
Really?
My girl asked me like, yo, you hit that.
Yeah, that's so much access to your partner?
What's even weird sometimes?
It's similar, but different is like when you see someone, you're like, oh, I think I think I did that.
That's horrible.
It's horrible.
I think everybody
who's had that
Yeah
You know, you being
Dunkin' Donuts
and something
They'd be hugging you
You'd be like
Before they take your order
That's
Hey yo
Hey yo
She gave me like
12 donuts
These were free
I'm like
I don't know
I do
I don't discuss
That's hilarious
You y'all
You've been horny all part
No
No
No
You've ran into something
And you'd be like
Mm-hmm
You discuss ex with Shad Abol Drape?
X?
I mean, I discuss everything with her.
Oh, for real?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm.
Look, we'll be outside.
My girl would be like,
yeah, I don't know.
My wife would ask me if the girl's acting funny style.
You know, like, if they come over and, like, speak and do some weird shit or do the voice, you know, just a weird shit.
My wife back.
They don't know who that is.
They don't got to be funny.
They don't got to be nothing.
My girl will be like.
Because she can tell him.
She's on your type.
She knows.
You know you.
You know your body.
We in bed watching the show last night.
I must have been sleepy.
Because she was in the bed on her phone.
And I guess, you know, we're sitting up next to each other.
And I guess her good, good, good, good, good friend was posting her son on Instagram,
who's like a bodybuilder.
And he was in like the MC Hammer pumps and the bump.
Oh, shit.
Drawls?
Drawers.
Okay.
and all I heard was, oh, that's such and such, that's my godson, that's such and such a, such and she wrote a little DM, and then she went to the kitchen to get some water.
I sat in that bed long and hard, like, is this bitch crazy?
Yo, what are you saying? So I had to think, because I'm not one to even broach this topic or have this conversation with nobody.
but I was so stuck on
because I got a thing
I guess that's a trigger for me
your childhood friend
your godson
your fucking
oh we went to middle school
like my brother
and they say that shit
so casually
I thought that she was in bed
and said
oh shit
my godson
so she came back to the room
I said
hey quick question
don't tell me
Don't tell me, Joe.
Because I got to have to talk.
I said, hey, when you say, like, hey, that's my God's son.
Oh, hey, my childhood.
Hey, my mom knows his son.
I said, what does that mean?
She said, oh, that means they're like a kid to me.
Like, we grew up together.
I said, is he 60?
She said, no, no, about 29.
Oh, 301.
Oh, fuck that.
Oh, yeah, no.
I said, so you think that you could see it dead and just willy-nilly to DM some
nigger in his drawers that's doing this.
I thought she DM the girl that posted him.
You told the story fucked up.
She didn't know.
The godsome.
I didn't know she DM Roscoe.
No, she did DM the girl, but I missed that part.
So I thought she did.
Oh, you thought she DM do.
Yeah, so we had to have a talk.
And boy, when I opened that can of worms, I lost.
Why would you?
That's what I said, Joe?
If we had to have a talk about DMs, you should send.
Versus it d'emns, you shouldn't send.
Who should get them?
Who's not?
You got to shut the fuck up.
Yeah, you just got to let that go.
I didn't
You got to choose your battles
I took a stand like a real Virgo
Nah
Shade is it your position
That because I've done wrong in this relationship
That I shouldn't be able to express
When I feel away
That's good talk
That's a therapy talk
No that's that gase
That bullshit
Hey yo bring that kerosene
No no it's BP
BP
That's 93
That's 995 right
That's my baby
I love it
That was fun
We talk about all of it.
That's interesting.
Part of that because you've been in my phone a bunch,
but she knows some of the mid.
So she just knows some of it was mid.
Some of it just shouldn't happen.
And she knows.
Man, some of that shit, I'm taking to the grave.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
When they find out it's mid.
But you said it's only a three.
Yeah.
I'm taking it to the grave.
When they find out this mid,
is that more comforting to them?
Oh, no.
They get a little victory lap.
No.
Yeah.
Or does it make them more worried
like you'll fuck anything?
No.
It has the opposite.
I find it as the opposite effect.
Because they thought they do was thorough.
They thought that they do.
They don't know about them nights.
You fuck that.
It's like she go on the phone and see you swinging and missing.
Just in the DM just and ain't nobody even giving you no rhythm.
It's like not only are you not supposed to be doing this, but you look like a herb doing it.
And look what you're doing it too.
You're embarrassing me.
This ain't even mine.
They get into all.
It's extra.
It's extra.
You find it's the opposite.
That they get to the victory lap.
I'm better.
Yeah.
When it's your turn, it's going to hurt if you did it with some mid.
If you did it with some mid, when she's up to bat,
it's not going to be made.
Boy, it's going to be bad for you.
You may flip the scenario.
Yeah, because now that she's seeing what you're doing,
it doesn't take much to get you going.
She sent a DM to pleasure pee on one of these niggas and get you out of pocket.
Would y'all feel better if your girl was fucking a random mid dude as opposed to like,
a nigga like better than us on our level?
What if you went your girl phone
and Sway Lee was in there
just in his bag
like Adam 22 said?
Yo, don't never say that's it.
You are absolutely disgusting
and you should be arrested.
What if Sway Lee was in there
just swaying?
Y'all wouldn't feel the way
like if your girl was in there
giving Swayley rhythm?
Yeah.
Yeah, hell yeah.
Let's move off this topic.
You know, y'all.
Yeah, that's a day by the way.
Yeah, everybody looked on.
It was funny.
It was the other way.
Yeah, everybody looks on tight in the face.
Come on, we can keep it going.
What else is important?
What else is unimportant now?
Speaking of Swayley.
Did you see Mike Will made it
talking about the Swayley
French Montana situation?
Yes.
He was tight about that.
Still is tight about that.
No one made no money behind it,
essentially, except for the Sony,
the record label.
Why not?
Because French just kind of, from his,
from Mike Will's standpoint,
just kind of took the record, jacked it.
I'm just putting his head.
out. I put a verse on it. Didn't ask
nobody. Oh shit.
Just put it in the streets.
But they shot a video. I don't... I'm sure
after the fact, once this, because it started to catch
traction immediately, it's a hit record,
smash record. So now it's...
Now it's... Let's... Fuck it.
So he just... We're here now. He took the Sway Lee record
and just threw that verse on there.
According to Mike Will.
Insinuated by Mike Will.
It makes...
It sounded like it was a... It was a Sway Lee record.
Yeah. That's why it's only like...
Yeah. It's only like...
Yeah. It's only that.
A bar.
French bar.
Holy shit.
And you come to the studio to put a verse on anything in the studio.
You'll never hear your verse again.
Like, that's how it should be.
You don't get to come over here, lay vocals on a track that I got pulled up.
And then when you leave, I send you a version of what you did to my beat or to my song.
Hell, no, you're crazy.
French would have never heard that verse again.
You'd have never heard that verse.
Gotta be careful playing people shit.
And niggas be, niggas go to studio sessions,
trying to fucking song hop.
Like, niggas will go to your session
trying to just throw a verse on something
that you didn't ask for at all.
Just because they're in the building.
Yeah.
Well, let me jump on that.
Give me some records you think that that happened with.
The first break, I think,
well, I don't know, not styles of my man,
but I was going to say,
BMF?
Yeah, blow money fast.
You say that.
It's funny you say that.
I just found out the other day
that Gucci is on the end of fucking MC Hammer.
I never got.
I don't think I ever knew that.
I never got to the Gucci man verse in MCM.
Shout to Gucci.
But he's on there.
Yeah.
threw the shit out of my headphones.
Thought you had some remix and something.
What the fuck is this?
I didn't know what he was doing.
That's just not a song I would have put him on.
But sometimes you don't let shit get to the third verse to know what's going on.
Stiles was another one.
It was a night in Sin City where they let the last verse rock.
I was like, Stiles P is on this song.
Wow, I was so happy for him.
I never knew that.
styles, man. Yeah, go ahead. God
damn it. Call one.
Some those niggas just look like they walk in the studio.
Say, let me get on that. You can't.
You can't tell the nigga. Shit, I think Roscoe said that's how
no hands happened with a valet.
Yeah. Something along the line.
Just in a session, jamming, come over.
Oh, shit, that's hard. Let me hop on that.
Hey. Hey.
Pause.
Pause. Everything in the studio is
kind of pauseworthy if you really stop and think about it.
Yeah.
Give it to me one more time.
Now go harder.
It's a lot.
There's a lot of plausibility shit in there.
He'll go hard.
I think you can go harder than that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A little tighter.
I ain't gonna lie.
Anytime somebody told me that.
When I went back in there and went harder,
yeah, that's what it needed.
Sometimes it's a rap,
but that's all you need.
Just some instruction.
Great verse, but you don't really sound.
Come on, let's get it.
Come on.
You can lay that.
Well, another take.
The right person got to tell you that, though.
Yeah.
Anybody just can't say that.
Nah, you know what else is funny as a rap?
Sometimes nobody got to say none.
You go in there lay your verse.
You're looking through the square to see the room.
And ain't nobody bopping.
They're not.
Damn, that's demoral.
They look at the phone or some shit.
Yeah.
I don't hear this shit I'm doing it here.
Niggas going to the store while you laying that heat.
So niggas told you the verse over before, an artist?
I'm sure that's happened to me before.
Yes.
Without you getting offended, I mean.
I don't think I, yeah, I wouldn't get offended of that.
Some people do get offended at that
I didn't get offended at it
My intro to the game
Was making niggas change their verses man
So I mean
I mean I don't
I didn't get offended
Even though I did have a rule
Like I wanted to put my best foot forward
All the time so that I didn't have to
Redo a verse
And if you get me one of my best foot is forward
Then you got me I ain't gonna do that
I think that's sucker shit
Hmm
Oh you're talking about like redo it after someone else
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
If there was nothing wrong with your verse
And you just got ripped
Why you're changing it
I'm saying like what whole
When he told, like, Alicia Keys, go re-record that.
Oh, like, when we say, Shakikon, told Mary, does somebody tell...
Oh, somebody tells me.
Yeah, Joe, like, you was on a record with somebody,
that shit don't sound too good.
Like, if you was in the studio with Royce.
And Royce was like, yo, dog, I think you could do that better.
I'm listening to anything worse has to say.
Yeah.
If Hove give you instruction, if somebody's giving you instruction, that, you know...
You respect.
And also, you can tell.
If someone gives you instruction, you go back and listen to it,
and they're right.
I'm going to fix the shit.
Yeah, it's true.
Yeah.
Niggas be too arrogant.
Yeah.
You tell them that,
nah, what you're talking about?
I'm not.
I shit fire.
That's the problem.
Them three that you said
you would take to the grave.
They got phones still?
Oh, you're stupid.
Are you stupid?
What?
What the fuck?
You want to know who they are?
That's all.
That's cool.
I know one that you keep denying,
so you know, we could do a unwilling.
If I deny it,
didn't happen. No, it happened.
You take it.
Y'all know about the ones that I'm going to deny.
I'm not saying y'all don't know, but it didn't happen.
It didn't happen.
Get yourself in a sticky situation.
That's the one that come and do wonders to your body.
The one that come over, what?
This little ugly bitch touching me right here.
You know all the spots.
You be in bed like, ooh, who, if nobody see this bitch.
The thing she come over in do to me.
The back of my knee.
Oh, that's 4.12 in the morning.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
Oh, my God.
She's the door in lock.
It's a little hard work.
That's how you know.
Niggas was open.
Niggins used to lead that door on lock.
You can go back in the dark.
It's going to be in the dark.
You can imagine.
What?
You can imagine.
You keep the light off.
Let me come in there.
The moonlight.
Oh, good old days.
Oh, man.
We have some horny old man.
Yeah, we are.
All we're terrible, man.
Horny old men in here.
Oh, go ahead.
No, I was asking you earlier when we were talking about the topic.
I was saying that people getting soft.
Y'all fucking the night time now?
No.
You just into my whole shit to say that.
My last thing, because we were just talking about fucking I didn't want to have to circle back to fucking.
I prefer not to.
You said, are we fucking at nighttime?
Yeah.
Like, how often is nighttime?
All the time.
For me, most of the time.
When you have young children, you fucking when you can fuck.
Right.
We got a window.
You're going to be asleep.
Right.
Let's get it.
I keep forgetting that your kids can live with you.
I got always fact to that.
All right.
You were saying flip.
I was asking if you're fucking a day, but let's move.
Yo, speaking on earlier, I saw you comment on the, remember the coach?
It was a coach yelling in the player's face, right?
And I started to write a tweet and say that.
Write the tweet right now.
No.
You need a rough coach sometimes.
I miss that.
I feel like everybody's gotten soft.
I mean, a lot of those coaches, I mean, if you go back,
and say that how we were raised
or environmental,
you know, our environment led us to...
I tried to coach you,
rough you off of me to a fight,
canceled a hit show,
stepped to me outside,
barked on me, screamed on me.
Joe...
He just wanted you to re-record the verse.
No, no, no.
And sometimes we go through that
and we shouldn't have to accept that,
but I feel like you need rough coaches.
Yeah, so the coach,
I was just trying to find her name.
Brenda Freese or phrasing,
there's a clip of her
doing some real intense coaching
to her star.
player Alucci
Okanawa
She was in her face
There was a little bit
She was very close to her
The kind of close
Where like you can feel
A spit coming out of their mouth
And there were people
Who were like
Outrage by it
I think some of it was the optics
Of her being a white coach
Yell another black player
I think some of it was just like
You don't yell at players like that
You know
Etcetera
To me
And what I was like
I'm with
I think people expected me to be outraged
Yeah
I remember what she was saying too
She said I believe in you
This is your
This is your story
you know like take this moment on like
I believe in you
she wasn't playing well
she wasn't doing what she wanted to it. The lip readers
got right to it and told us exactly what
she was saying and once you hear that what is
the story. It's harder to be pissed. She said yo this is
your story I'm not in it. Right. It's
your time. I believe in you but
everything y'all just said you got to believe in yourself now
is your moment go take it to him.
She could have been in her face saying yo you playing like
shit you could do better than get the fuck out there
what's your fucking problem? What the fuck is
your problem? What? You're playing like
shit blah blah blah blah that's what
coaches do. Yo, some coaches
motivate their players in other
ways. Some...
The good...
The good coaches
do what y'all are saying. But
the bad coaches, when they do this same
move, it normally is coming right before
them.
Left.
The left.
There's some coaches that, if they're that close to
you, a boobot.
It's coming in the stomach. I think there are limits.
Even if you love me,
but this coach wasn't nowhere.
near the limit. Yeah, not even close.
It's not even close to me. It's screaming
at me, I believe in you, is, thank you.
Right. I think it was more what you said,
the optic of the white and the edge black hair.
Because I'm like, what the fuck are we doing? I mean,
when John Thompson did it to AI, knowing was like,
what's going on. And I think part of his generation, I do think this
generation is getting soft. Yeah.
And I think, I don't want to
just say, well, because they did it back in the day
and it worked. That's what, that we can't,
that we can't, like, change. Again, I'm all
for change. I'm awful more gentle approaches, more
humane approaches to things. I just don't think we
needed on this thing.
I just don't think there's
another way to get a player
in a sport that's competitive
motivated sometimes
other than to match their intensity.
But what do you say to the people that say
that the reason why
we accept that is because of what happened in our
homes? What do you say to those people?
And we got to go back and change that
all that. I'm not saying stupid.
I think it depends what we're talking about. Again,
I don't
there's a lot of arguments for why we shouldn't do football, right?
in terms of it being a gladiator sport, blah, blah, blah.
But if we're doing it,
I don't know how to get someone to literally run through a wall
other than to get them hype enough to run through a fucking wall.
You said when you went to Zaire and them game,
you never seen Zaire be like that.
Yeah.
Yo, dog, these are grown 260, 200, in some cases,
350-pound men.
You're going to be like, yo, Bubba.
I think you could do better.
Next time, just bounce off the block.
Break his neck.
Yeah, like, what the fuck are we talking about?
I think in competitive sports,
yo, your emotions are high,
you're passionate about what you're doing.
We start yelling up here about bullshit.
You're talking about the NCAA tournament
and motherfuckers wanting to win and be successful
and you want to see kids that you believe in do their best.
Sometimes, yo, go harder to the whole.
Don't worry.
And I know you better than that.
And you might not get the most out of that player
until you, pardon my French, put belt the ass.
Right.
You get what I'm saying?
And so I just think that you assess your players
if you're the coach
and you've been with them for three, four years,
you know what's going to get the best out of them.
I don't have no problem with that.
And it's a relationship.
Indeed.
By the time we're in the fourth quarter with 10 seconds left,
and you're like, what the fuck are you doing?
Yes.
You know what I mean?
Set a fucking screen.
I've spent a year or two, three, four with you.
You've hugged me.
You've talked to me.
Cryed.
I've talked about it.
I'm a lot of secrets.
We've had such a relationship that by the time we get to that moment,
I trust you, I care about you, I love you,
and I can depend on you for that shit.
Hold that.
fucking screen two seconds longer. You bounced
out the screen too early? I don't think nothing's
wrong with that. Yeah. Now if I just met you,
that's different. Yeah, totally different. You know, and you
still coach an intensity, but there's different levels.
So I don't need, even,
what she said based on the lip readers
made it to me unassailable.
But even if it were more intense
and less warm and fuzzy
in the wording, I'm still not against it
in the fourth quarter. And you heard the girl
afterward, she said, I like being coached.
Yeah. Yeah, I think we make sure.
Definitely good to draft it. I mean, she might have
and getting drafted anyway
because I'm not familiar with her.
Yeah.
That attitude.
Coachable.
What you said after that.
Yeah.
That's what people want to hear.
That's how you handle that.
Speaking of coaching,
speaking of good coaching,
what kind of?
Tommy Lee?
How would you guys, no.
How would you guys like to be given bad news
from your representation?
Who's representation?
What you mean?
You like a agent or your manager.
Whoever that is,
whoever that is that you work with,
how would you like to receive bad news?
news from number.
Phone call.
And direct.
Very direct.
Don't talk around the bush.
Straight up.
How much of a filter would you like them to put on news that's bad to you?
Like when your person is reaching out talking to the deal makers or whoever they're talking to,
what if they get like some brutally honest truths back about you?
See, I think that's the job of the manager or the middleman.
To know.
That they could soften the blow.
you know what I'm saying?
Yo, dog, the deal ain't go through.
They had some reservations, whatever, whatever.
They don't have to be like, yo, they say you a motherfucking.
They don't have to do that.
Yeah.
You don't have to do that.
Say the things that I need to know to get better or to move forward.
Don't say things that are just going to hurt my feelings.
I agree.
When I first started hosting, I tried out for this, I audition for this to host this show about
feral kids, you know, like kids that are like animals.
They live in a wild.
It's called Wild Child.
Okay.
They thought I'd be good for.
You was going to be in a while no matter what, boy.
Yo, nigga, I needed this job.
This is my first big opportunity.
And I was terrible.
I didn't know what I was doing.
And I didn't know how to reprompter.
I didn't know how to kind of navigate.
I was good with the interviews and all that shit,
but there was some technical stuff.
I just didn't know how to do because I'd never done it before.
And my agent called me and said,
they like you, but they didn't think you were ready yet.
That's all I needed to know, to know what I needed to do.
I'm sure what they said is why did you send us as a guy.
guy, he can't even do the prompter, he can't even say all that. They didn't say you sucked on the
prompter or, you know, you didn't transition well or, you know, whatever. I need to know that,
because that would have just made me self-conscious and worried. But saying I wasn't ready yet told
me, I need to prep. And I knew exactly what I need to work on. It's the perfect motivation.
See, I would like that information. The prompter reading, like, I would want to get that information
maybe not at that exact time. Yeah. But if I were in that situation, I would want my manager
to be like, oh, by the way, we should also work on such and such and such and such.
And he kind of did that.
And also it was kind of, I knew what the audition looked like.
Got it.
I knew it went well.
Some people aren't that self-aware.
That's very true.
And that's where you have to know your client.
Yeah.
You have to know your client.
I mean, I agree with him.
Like, to have the filler to, so you won't react.
A nigga like me, you tell a nigga like me that I'm mad at the whole company,
niggas.
Burn that whole shit down.
Fuck them niggas.
But you need somebody to tell you, like, to try the softened the blow based on the person
that's receiving information.
Let's say Mark,
didn't.
Would you like for your, I'm sorry,
would you like for your representation
to tell you if a company was racist?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would.
But you ain't even got to go on the specifics.
You could just be like, yo, like,
I'm going to put my e-in voice on your buddy.
They weren't really, you know.
They weren't.
I would want to know.
I want to know.
You don't got to go into the comments.
Racist toward you, I'm saying.
Yes.
Yes.
You don't even got to go into the comments.
You could say, yo, they aren't a good fit for us.
was on some racial shit.
They are biased
and it's not a firearm brain.
Even if they go with it later on,
you'll find out they're racist.
And when you find out that they're racist
or they're racist towards you,
meaning like,
now them being racist towards you
meaning that you won't get the job
because sometimes they can be racist
towards you,
but your representation
can still work out something
and you get through the door.
Or you'd be profitable
and they'll take a gamble
even though they don't really want to fuck with you,
but these niggers bring dollars.
So in this situation, what would it be?
Would it be like, you know,
they're racist and they don't want
to fuck with you or they're racist?
No, they're not fucking.
I would want to know because I don't want to ever
Sometimes you'll have like
Still positive things to say about someone who didn't
Bring you on but if I know they're on bullshit
I don't want to ever be positive towards them again
I might not shit on them publicly but I'm not ever gonna say nothing nice about them
I want at least know
Would you like to be told if they're in and I'll close on this if they told if would you like to be told if they told your team that you're asking price was laughable
Yeah, yes
Yeah probably yeah not laughable
No I will just
just there's a way to say that without me let me ask they shouldn't on your asking price there's a way
to say it if i'm in your position yeah i want to know right but if let's say me because y'all
we in different levels so let's just say i have representation and they were shopping me to somebody
and our number was x and it was like what are you crazy fucking that nigger better get out of here
but for you because you are in an ownership role or you see yourself in a certain place
me and I don't view where I would be
and you where you are in the same
so I think all that information should come back to you
my agent for me
I don't think it's necessary
I would always want to know that information
because I may have to adjust my price
accordingly but that's a conversation for you
and your agent to have at another time
without them telling you
you know, these motherfuckers laugh at it's out of the room
you know what I'm saying?
Maybe I think that.
I'd want to know right away that.
Laffable. Because a lot of time when they say it's laughable
they just don't want to pay you
it wouldn't necessarily make me feel like I was making
I either would say I need to adjust my price
or I need to hold out for my price.
It might make me more steadfast,
but I would want to know,
also I want to know that way it ain't my talent.
And also, like, I might, you know what I'm saying?
I might want the gig.
So, like,
oh, it was that too.
Like, maybe if I really think it's a good look
or it's a good opportunity
or I can see something in the future,
all right, let's work on the price.
But maybe it doesn't have to be this astronomical.
Let's figure out something that's more reasonable.
That's interesting.
Potentially, you know.
Got it.
Case by case basis, obviously, but.
For sure.
All right, what else is important?
La Russell deleted his social media.
Got scared La Russell off the internet.
Good.
Yeah.
No, somebody got to him.
Somebody got to him that he respects and would listen to.
That's what you think?
Yeah.
Yes.
You just kept double and triple and triple and down.
If you're going that far with the double to triple down,
he don't respond to shit well.
Like, it only took me the last month to learn that.
Yeah.
Anybody could get into someone.
on the internet, but how he responds to shit
just wasn't working out.
Yeah.
So, take a little break.
Do everybody a favor.
Just go ahead and get out of here.
Get out of it.
Ain't nothing good coming from these talking points.
He'll be right back.
Yeah, he'll be back like he never left,
but he did the right thing.
I agree.
More y'all niggas need to fucking get off the internet.
That point.
The fuck.
What else?
What else?
What else?
They're doing a Kevin Hart roast on Netflix,
May 10th.
Hosted by Shane Gillis,
none other than.
Nice.
Shout to Shane.
That's dope.
That's a good look.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think this is going to be super fire.
I enjoy the Netflix roasts.
I think Kevin Hart is going to have the right people doing it.
I expect to see the tall white girl.
I like Mickey Glazer.
There's only one other person I want to see.
Dave Chappelle, Jerry Seinfeld.
Yeah.
I could live without Jerry Seinfeld.
I just don't think he's funny anymore.
He might not be good at roasts.
Yeah.
That don't seem like his schstick.
He'd be good for the celebrity presence.
But you know what?
Did you all see Jerry Seinfeld at what is those?
damn, I don't remember the award.
The award.
The Twain.
Did you all see him at the Twain Award?
I don't think I saw it.
No, I didn't see it.
If it was, I forgot about it.
I like Jerry.
He was hilarious.
I like Jerry.
Introducing Kev.
I just.
Or roasting Kev.
Oh, I missed that one day.
I need to see it.
I didn't see it.
To answer your question.
I need to see it.
That was the big way he was like, uh, uh, I know, Kev.
I'm not here for a favor.
He did a favor bit.
You never heard of Jerry Seinfeld.
If we played it up here.
It's possible.
Yeah, it's possible.
I think we played it.
Anyway, I thought that was hilarious.
Maybe I'm going to see Jeff Ross.
I'm sure he'll be there.
To me, there's nobody.
He's going to be there.
He got to be.
Jeff Ross is the manned TV comedian dude.
No, the bald dude.
No, no, all the roast.
The roast master.
He's at all the roasts.
He's been a staple on all the comedy central joints.
He's going to be there.
He kills everybody.
To me, him and Nicky Glazer are the two.
Yep.
That's my two.
Every year.
Yeah.
They could feel.
Them two there, we know we got a hit coming.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's all I care about is her.
Honestly, I don't even care about the ball.
Let me pull up a picture of Jeff Ross.
You know him.
You definitely know.
That's not the partisan question.
Let me just see who this one.
He's fucking hilarious.
He gets busy on the ropes.
I think he said some inappropriate shit not too long ago.
That's all he do.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's his whole shit.
Jeff Ross?
Yeah.
You're going to know when you see his face.
Oh, yeah, the nigga looked like a thumb.
Yeah, no, he's funny.
He's very funny.
he's funny he's great at a roast
I don't know about what you did
The Seinfeld name just a big up Jeff Rose
But we'll talk about that off here
Look
That was kind of crazy
Your hoodies tell me you don't really
It's always something with Sanfell
It's not personal
I don't know him I just
I went to see Jerry Seinfeld
His last comedy too
I went to see him live
Like I'm a comedy fan
So I went to see him
It just wasn't funny
I watched this special
He's always been a dad joke
Dude
Yeah he's not that funny
He's more funny with
Larry David.
Larry Dave.
Yes.
And I remind me back in the day
when rest in peace to Carolines,
I would just go to Carolines
just to see whoever
just because Carolines was a good date.
It was a good day.
It was a good night out.
I went there for, who was that?
David Allen Greer one time.
Boy, he was the worst.
Really?
Really?
He was absolutely.
I didn't enjoy him.
I don't think nobody in my table
enjoyed him.
And we had like a table
of 10-seated like right,
next one the side of the stage.
And it was like, if I had tomatoes on me.
That's your worst comedian, live?
At least notable.
Probably.
Probably.
I mean, I've had some really tense Paul Mooney sets I was a part of, too.
But they weren't bad sets, but they were tense.
Yeah, I can live with tense.
No, sometimes that shit is uncomfortable.
Sometimes that shit is uncomfortable.
What do you mean?
Yes.
Was it like on a racial tip order?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yes.
And, you know, and.
Like, let's just say hypothetically going to Carolines, just hypothetically.
On a random night, Carolines is going to be white.
On any night.
You know what I'm saying?
That shit is going to be heavily, heavily, heavily Caucasian.
And Paul Mooney used to give it up.
He gets off on that shit, too.
Yeah.
Yeah, but sometimes, like, okay, sometimes I would see, like, white people get up to leave the Paul Mooney set.
I think that was his goal.
Yes.
I want to make y'all so uncomfortable that you get up and leave.
I think he was willing to bomb the set.
Yeah.
To fucking.
For that.
For that.
To piss his moment.
See, I'm not with that.
I'm not with that.
Me either.
Like, if I'm a customer somewhere, if you're a consumer, you're a patron somewhere,
then there has to be some level of respect.
I'm with you being a comedian and doing your job.
But once the white people get up, like, you know what,
maybe this particular comedian is not for me.
I'll leave peacefully and quietly.
That's when he used to go AWOL.
That's when he used to.
That was the long walkout for them.
And the things he used to say to them people that were just trying to leave was
like, yo dog,
this is not necessary right now.
Is there any white-
And I've seen Paul Mooney, I'm sorry, Flit.
I seen Paul Mooney at least nine to 12 times in Carolines.
I'm only talking about maybe twice where I was uncomfortable.
Is there any white comedians that did it to black, black cop, black patrons that got up and walked away?
I've had that before, too.
I told the story up here.
I saw the Cramer one, but then people getting up, I remember that.
That was bad.
That was bad.
And it wasn't funny either.
It wasn't funny.
No.
I've had the experience a going on a comedy show with an extremely beautiful dark-skinned woman
and the comedian on stage.
A beginner comedian said something totally out of pocket.
I've told that story up here.
Like colorist?
I didn't know that.
Past colorist.
It was a white comedian?
Yeah.
Oh.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That coincide.
How did you handle that?
I don't know.
I went to the stage.
They had to pull.
They had to get him off.
Then they had to, they asked me to walk out.
The owner came out, spoke to me, apologized.
kicked him out, yada, yada, y'all.
Good. Good. Okay.
Good for you. It was so bad. We was going to wait
after outside. We were going to see him
for what he's saying. I want to date, nigga.
So do you believe that
every night I got a fight to show my love?
So you're not against comedians roasting people in the crowd,
but you're against
the racism. Of course we're against racism, but you're not
against that comedians or rosa people in the crowd. Because some people
are against that. Some people feel like as a comic,
you should not bother anybody in the crowd.
No, I don't feel like that.
I don't feel like that.
But you can't be a racist fuck
and just be mean and break set now
to just spew mean shit at an audience member.
And mean is the right word.
To me, like, teasing, fucking with people,
jokes fine.
Once it gets to a level of meanness
or, like, actual harmful shit.
Yeah.
It's getting off your personal feelings.
Yeah.
I think that shit is why.
This ain't comedy no more.
Yeah, exactly.
The person I was with, like,
I think she got up and, like,
it was a thing.
Like, she asked him to stop.
He didn't stop.
She got up was visibly.
uncomfortable, shaking by some of the things being said.
Like, if I don't beat you up now, it's going to
look away. Or if I don't tell the management to get you the fuck out of here
because it's a security threat, because we're going to do something to you
when you get out of here then. How did your date react?
I just told you.
I mean, no, I mean. Towards you.
Towards you. I mean, like, do you?
Night shine.
Can I get to the trails.
Be big games.
You protected me.
Can I get to the jail?
Can I'm safe, my niggas?
Yeah.
What are you talking about?
Rock, Rock,
Citi Rich,
Black,
Wack,
Rack City Rich.
What fucking mean?
That's what we talk about that.
Yeah, we're terrible,
but how did she?
She decided to pop it for a nigga
and look back and told me, baby,
you know how she reacted.
Yeah,
especially white girls get it.
You know, the white girls,
shut your ass on,
nigga.
The.
You think I would bring a white girl
to a comedy show?
Yeah.
That's a good place that.
If you were going,
I'm not saying you did it.
I wouldn't.
But that's a good place to hide.
Wait, now hold up.
There's no other black people going to be there.
If the comedian was being racist towards the white girl, that would be a different response, I think.
Well, I told Mark she was a dark skin sister.
But anyway, but no, I'm not, no, a white girl at a comedy show?
If you are going to hide it, if you're going to go hypothetically on a date with somebody that you don't want black people to see.
No, black people at comedy.
It depends on what comedy show you go to.
That's what I'm saying.
So the one I'm going to enjoy.
So the one I'm going to enjoy black people going to be there.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
See, you like black comedians.
I like certain style of comedy.
You know?
Oh my God.
I love black comedians.
I love black comedians.
Where they rank with black quarterbacks to you?
I mean, I'm not going to do that.
I love black quarterbacks and black comedians.
But what I'm saying is there are also a lot of comedians who are not black.
So there's a good chance.
Let me guess what I got.
Let me guess what they're from Sudan, right?
There's just a good chance that if I go to a comedy club to see my favorite comedians that night, there's a good chance that.
And you go in New York Comedy Lines.
There might be one black comedian and three white comedians.
I'm okay with that.
I'm okay with the opposite too, but I'm just saying on a lot of nights in New York in particular,
you're not going to get on a lot of comedy.
I missed the comedy show I was trying to go see a couple days ago, man.
Who was that?
Oh, surety.
Yeah, surety, man.
Yeah, man, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that happened to you.
I missed the New York date and the New Jersey date.
I'm sure she'll be in D.C.
Who?
She's in Rhode Island in August.
Damn.
She was just in New York over the weekend.
Who?
Yeah, no.
This real funny community.
She's hilarious.
She's hilarious, yeah.
I had to work both nights
And my girl was with me
It's different meeting me without my girl
Her name did
That don't happen to y'all
Why is that my ask?
I'm asking you all
That's not the case for y'all
I was asking you first
I can't figure it out
That's why I'm asking my brothers
I have no idea
It's the same
It's the same?
No, I'm asking you all for real
My brother
Is it the same meetings of mine
Like when you're alone
I don't meet people alone
My lady's always with me
I am joking
Permanent plus words
I am in my heart
Hey, fuck what he's talking about, nigga, it's not the same.
Nope.
Hey, what's up, girl?
Hey, oh shit, I'm a fan.
When your girl, how are you doing?
He's shaking hands and shit.
You got to keep social distance.
Oh, nigga.
Social distance.
She got COVID.
She got COVID.
Your wife is there.
I can't even hug nobody properly.
Properly.
What's the proper?
What's the proper?
What's the problem?
You can't hug with the snickle on, nigga.
You crazy.
Hips back.
Straight church.
Two pets.
Anyway, I'm gonna catch you in Rhode Island.
Let me know how it was the set.
And I saw a couple of clips which I was looking crazy.
You saw the clips too.
I'm gonna see you the link.
Her style of comedy is the kind that I think resonates for all of us up here.
She's really funny.
She's black?
I don't see race.
Oh, shit.
Oh, you niggins is sellouts.
For all that black powys that you do, you show me shit.
I love comedy.
Come on.
Mark, you got us.
Comedy knows no color.
Who's your favorite white comic then?
Bill Burr.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
A lot of people are hitting my phone asking me if I have the suite for the Jay-Z.
Because we talked about it.
They just asked me too.
Because you said you think you're coming in my suite?
Which implied you have a suite.
But people that ain't hit me for no show I've been to New Edition.
Tank.
Those were accessible.
Right.
Have you seen a cue for the new edition?
and tank and no offense and you see the cue
for Jay-Z? What's no cue? That's my point
I was talking about it. I was trying to be
polite. Because this isn't
the other shows you just need the money to get tickets. Here you need money
at a hookup. Yeah. Yeah.
The cue said there is no cue no more for the show they just announced.
Yeah, my home girl was ranked number one million
and she logged in like right at the time that you were supposed to.
I clicked in at 1.002 or something. I was 22,000
and then when I went back. This is my uncle at. There's no call.
He's still in the queue?
No, the cue is close
He got the seats
He got a seat, yeah
Oh yeah, we got
Tell your uncle
See if you want to make some money
Before
Ask your uncle if you want to make some money
Yo, I got
I got, I kept
Oh
I was gonna say
Walea put a record out
That I wanted to come in here
And play
But now I can't find it anywhere
But boy is a heat
So he took it down
I tried to get the record
He said it ain't finished
I'm gonna finish it tonight
So it was just a teaser
That's why it's not
He didn't clear
The same thing
That song was done
Nigger
We didn't need
No more Wale A vote
on that one. That was a joint.
And I'm sure a lot of the comments told you it was a joint.
Also, last time I was in here, I didn't put the proper respect on my sister Alex Isley.
Ooh, that new album.
Who dropped the project.
I'm gonna just get right to this James Fauntleroy when the city sleeps because it's like that.
And again, I meant to do this last part.
When the City sleeps Alex Isley, the name of the project and the name of this song.
Incredible Project.
project is we vived out let's go then friends of the show Alex
Igeley winter city sleeps feature of Fondleroy let's go you know I can't sleep
I can't face the moon too much true safe in the daylight think of
when the city sleeps feature in James Fauntleroy entire project is a vibe shout
to our good friend of the show Alex
That sounds great.
Alman's fire.
The album is heat.
Let's see, let's see.
I thought you brought it back,
no, no.
But speaking of bringing things back,
I got a part of this show here
from somebody named Ishman's.
I'm reading this in real time
for the first time,
so this person says,
Story time, I'll make it as short as possible.
Bear with me.
My wife and I have four kids
total. Two she had before me and twins we had together, my firstborns. A year after our kids,
we were pregnant again. One week we was beefing. Serious. I'm assuming to her, but it wasn't as
serious to me. I viewed it as petty, but not worth beefing about. I said it was serious to her
because I gave her distance while I was working on that. And that led to her texting me saying
she's going to get an abortion.
I responded saying,
no, you are not.
Well, it's just, man, you don't have a choice in that one.
Sorry, buddy.
I will not be paying to kill my child.
She hit me with my body my choice.
I stood firm on my stance.
Come to find out, she lied to her dad
to get the money to do it and had it done.
Till this day, I hold resentment for that.
That's not the kicker.
Now, three years later,
she's saying she's getting her tubes tied
because she's turning 37 and has four kids.
I said I'm not okay with that.
She says I'm being selfish
and that I should be okay with the twins.
I said you're saying that
because you had two kids before me,
one of which is 18 now.
I feel like she's abusing this
my body, my choice mentality.
I told her if she does this
like she did the abortion,
then I will be leaving this relationship for good
because I haven't all the way forgiven you for that.
She claims she has an appointment in two weeks.
I think it's a bluff.
But if real, would I be wrong to leave this relationship?
Signed, Ishes, man.
Hopefully you all were able to keep up with that.
That's heavy.
That's heavy.
That's complicated.
It is.
I disagree with him saying she's abusing my body, my choice,
because it is her body, her choice.
And she's 37.
I mean, yeah, with medicines and stuff today,
women are having healthy pregnancies much later,
but she might not want to go through that anymore.
You're a higher risk.
So she might say, I'm done.
I think she has the right to do that.
I mean, he's saying, is he wrong for leaving a relationship?
Now, you got to do what's best for you.
If you feel, I think that you shouldn't leave the relationship.
I think that a relationship takes two,
and she may need your support.
She still will need your support,
but if you have to leave in order to keep your sanity
because you draw a line,
then you got to do what you got to do if it's, you know,
to keep peace in the home.
Is you smiling?
What's so, ish?
No, it's a real complicated.
You think he should leave?
No, I just think it's a complicated thing.
I think that...
What's your man, my fault?
I think that...
I don't know if you don't.
I think that...
Shorty's definitely right.
When she says her body, her choice,
I think that if she wants to tie her tubes,
she can do so.
I also think that in real relationships,
I think it's a conversation to be had.
Like, he may want more kids.
She may not want more kids.
I think that those are conversations to be had.
And she does reserve the right to change her mind.
You get what I'm saying?
I just think that it's a real slippery slope.
I think if he wants more kids and he leaves the relationship,
now your twins suffer.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it's really no definitive answer.
And it's not a right or wrong thing.
It's more of an emotional thing on both of their behalf.
It's a real tough, tough, tough time.
Thoughts and prayers to him.
I agree.
I mean, people have a right to change their mind.
people have right to change their minds
I think
though
when you enter a relationship
it depends
of what commitments you made
you know like
what if he did that
what if she said like
I want kids
I'm committed to having three kids
four more kids
and that was the condition
of them getting married
and he go get sniffed
or just says you know what
I don't want no more kids
that changed my mind
again he has a right to do it
but I do think
what got us into that relationship
should at least be part of the conversation.
I still agree her body, her choice.
She should be able to do whatever she wants with her body.
And I agree with Flip.
Yeah, he has a right to leave.
I don't think he's wrong to leave.
I think if you want a thing
and that person doesn't want that thing
anymore or ever,
then people are right to leave.
The same way, she has a right to change your mind.
He has the right to change his mind about the commitment.
I think that's okay.
Yeah, I agree.
And also, she could
just throw a little bit of Bell,
She could just have been secretly taking birth control.
I appreciate that she was honest with him.
Instead of getting a tube style, she could have done this on the low
and not told him.
I had him thinking they were trying to have a kid all this time until you ran out of field.
So I appreciate her transparency and honesty about it.
I don't know enough about what they agreed to going in to know how big of a pivot this is.
But yeah, like everybody's saying it's messy.
Yeah, I would just be careful, I guess, I agree with what everyone said.
I would just be careful with throwing away potentially a good relationship
and a good person because of this.
Unless it's really something.
that you really feel that strongly.
Yeah, exactly.
Because how good can a person be
if she's going against,
or they're going against your,
what you truly believe in?
I mean, you could be good,
but I'll never be happy in the situation
because it'll never leave me.
I would always regret being in this situation.
I would always think, what if,
unless we go together and get the proper help.
He said he's already resentful
based on the first abortion issue.
Yeah.
And that ain't going to get right unless they have another kid.
It sounds like that's about the only thing
that's going to make them feel better about it.
I think, again,
my thing is if he leaves, that's definitely a choice of him.
For sure.
But your twins are going to suffer.
And I'm sure the other two kids that have grown to know him are going to suffer as well.
So it's really a bad thing.
And again, I would just caution if everything else is good in the relationship.
I don't know if I would give that up for personally.
Break, baby.
Break baby, you scream.
I mean, that is an option.
That is an option.
Oh.
Well, hope we were able to help, nigga.
When you have a brave, you on a break.
All right, hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering
it to you.
Until next time, keep us in your prayers.
Lord knows we need to be there.
Until next time we bid you a do farewell.
Adio, Seriva, Dirtya, Asta, Lovista.
Arvois. So long goodbye, a simple head novel suffice.
Remember life is a series of moments and moments past, so let's make this one last as if it's all we have.
Last but certainly not least.
Insecured, the stagnant women want to travel and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things, grab you with Tylenol, you might need it.
again I urge you if you are traveling out there
if you are vacaying or visiting family
or just moving and shaking
those airports are twisted
it is not a game
you might want to give yourself
shit four to five hours
honestly what's going to be
they saying five to get to the airport
yeah five hours if you open up the LaGuardia app
the EWR app some of these
some of these airports are telling you what the wait
time is yeah I got lucky the other day I was not you're getting lucky for shit in
eternity boy you walk into that one oh sweet I was thinking about going away next weekend
but I don't know it might be a dove for that yeah I'm supposed to travel I'm traveling
next week too I don't know about that no more but I want to say happy birthday to my son Nico
me oh me happy birthday happy birthday not me I'm gonna fuck him up but you know you know watch your
mom happy birthday to Nico like y'all I'm supposed to
to be traveling next weekend.
You're in South Carolina?
Not supposed to.
But this shit's looking like this.
Nah, I was, dog, I flew through the airport.
He's on some lucky shit.
Like I was...
You're still a flat commercial?
Oh, sure.
And there's some TSA shit going on, huh?
I don't know.
I'm out of loop.
That's what the thing is.
Some TSA shit.
You know, pay them, niggas, yo.
Just paid them.
They're trying to break up the union
and all that shit.
That's some politics,
but...
Yeah.
Politics as usual, man.
Basically.
Damn.
Until next time, y'all hold it down.
We're gone.
Yeah.
No, Joe, bud.
You've never heard of Joe, bud?
where to be without the jbp we'll fold that up right now
